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Dec 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Anthony Fauci says lockdowns are not possible in the United States (January 24):
When asked about the mass quarantine containment efforts underway in Wuhan, China back in January, Fauci dismissed the prospect of lockdowns ever coming to the United States :
"That's something that I don't think we could possibly do in the United States, I can't imagine shutting down New York or Los Angeles, but the judgement on the part of the Chinese health authorities is that given the fact that it's spreading throughout the provinces it's their judgement that this is something that in fact is going to help in containing it. Whether or not it does or does not is really open to question because historically when you shut things down it doesn't have a major effect."
Less than two months later, 43 of 50 US states were under lockdown – a policy advocated by Fauci himself.
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Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted against masks on February 29. Anthony Fauci publicly discouraged mask use in a nationally broadcast 60 Minutes interview on March 7. At a March 30 World Health Organization briefing its Director-General supported mask use in medical settings but dissuaded the same in the general public.
By mid-summer, all had reversed course and encouraged mask-wearing in the general public as an essential tool for halting the pandemic. Fauci essentially conceded that he lied to the public in order to prevent a shortage on masks, whereas other health officials did an about-face on the scientific claims around masking.
- Anthony Fauci 's decimal error in estimating Covid's fatality rates (March 11)
Fauci testified before Congress in early March where he was asked to estimate the severity of the disease in comparison to influenza. His testimony that Covid was "10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu" stoked widespread alarm and provided a major impetus for the decision to go into lockdown.
The problem, as Ronald Brown documented in an epidemiology journal article , is that Fauci based his estimates on a conflation of the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) and Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for influenza, leading him to exaggerate the comparative danger of Covid by an order of magnitude. Fauci's error – which he further compounded in a late February article for the New England Journal of Medicine – helped to convince Congress of the need for drastic lockdown measures, while also spreading panic in the media and general public. As of this writing Fauci has not acknowledged the magnitude of his error, nor has the journal corrected his article.
- Anthony Fauci credits lockdowns for beating the virus in Europe (July 31)
In late July Anthony Fauci offered additional testimony to Congress. His message credited Europe's heavy lockdowns with defeating the virus, whereas he blamed the United States for reopening too early and for insufficient aggressiveness in the initial lockdowns. As Fauci stated at the time, "If you look at what happened in Europe, when they shut down or locked down or went to shelter in place -- however you want to describe it -- they really did it to the tune of about 95% plus of the country did that."
The message was clear: the United States should have followed Europe, but failed to do so and got a summer wave of Covid instead. Fauci's entire argument however was based on a string of falsehoods and errors.
- Anthony Fauci touts New York as a model for Covid containment (June-December)
By all indicators, New York state has suffered one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world. Its year-end mortality rate of almost 1,900 deaths per million residents exceeds every single country in the world. The state famously bungled its nursing home response when Governor Andrew Cuomo forced these facilities to readmit Covid-positive patients as a way to relieve strains on hospitals. The policy backfired as most hospitals never reached capacity, but the readmissions introduced the virus into vulnerable nursing home populations resulting in widespread fatalities (to this day New York intentionally undercounts nursing home fatalities by excluding residents who are moved to a hospital from its reported numbers, further obscuring the true toll of Cuomo's order).
New York has also fared poorly during the fall "second wave" despite reimposing harsh restrictions and regional lockdown measures. By mid-December, its death rate shot far above the mostly-open state of Florida, which has the closest comparable population size to New York. All things considered, New York's weathering of the pandemic is an exemplar of what not to do.
Cuomo's policies not only failed to contain the virus – they likely made it far more deadly to vulnerable populations. Enter Anthony Fauci, who has been asked multiple times in the press what a model Covid response policy would look like. He gave his first answer on July 20th : "We know that, when you do it properly, you bring down those cases. We have done it. We have done it in New York."
Fauci was operating under the assumption that New York, despite its bad run in the spring, had successfully brought the pandemic under control through its aggressive lockdowns and slow reopening. One might think that the fall rebound in New York, despite locking down again, would call this conclusion into question. Not so much for Dr. Fauci, who told the Wall Street Journal on December 8 : "New York got hit really badly in the beginning" but they did "a really good job of keeping things down, and still, their level is low compared to the rest of the country."
Dec 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Twelve Times The 'Lockdowners' Were Wrong BY TYLER DURDEN SUNDAY, DEC 27, 2020 - 23:35
Authored by Phillip Magness via The American Institute for Economic Research,
This has been a year of astonishing policy failure. We are surrounded by devastation conceived and cheered by intellectuals and their political handmaidens...
The errors number in the thousands, so please consider the following little more than a first draft, a mere guide to what will surely be unearthed in the coming months and years. We trusted these people with our lives and liberties and here is what they did with that trust.
- Anthony Fauci says lockdowns are not possible in the United States (January 24):
When asked about the mass quarantine containment efforts underway in Wuhan, China back in January, Fauci dismissed the prospect of lockdowns ever coming to the United States :
"That's something that I don't think we could possibly do in the United States, I can't imagine shutting down New York or Los Angeles, but the judgement on the part of the Chinese health authorities is that given the fact that it's spreading throughout the provinces it's their judgement that this is something that in fact is going to help in containing it. Whether or not it does or does not is really open to question because historically when you shut things down it doesn't have a major effect."
Less than two months later, 43 of 50 US states were under lockdown – a policy advocated by Fauci himself.
- US government and WHO officials advise against mask use (February and March)
When mask sales spiked due to widespread individual adoption in the early weeks of the pandemic, numerous US government and WHO officials took to the airwaves to describe masks as ineffective and discourage their use.
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Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted against masks on February 29. Anthony Fauci publicly discouraged mask use in a nationally broadcast 60 Minutes interview on March 7. At a March 30 World Health Organization briefing its Director-General supported mask use in medical settings but dissuaded the same in the general public.
By mid-summer, all had reversed course and encouraged mask-wearing in the general public as an essential tool for halting the pandemic. Fauci essentially conceded that he lied to the public in order to prevent a shortage on masks, whereas other health officials did an about-face on the scientific claims around masking.
While mainstream epidemiology literature stressed the ambiguous nature of evidence surrounding masks as recently as 2019 , these scientists were suddenly certain that masks were something of a magic bullet for Covid. It turns out that both positions are likely wrong. Masks appear to have marginal effects at diminishing spread, especially in highly infectious settings and around the vulnerable. But their effectiveness at combating Covid has also been grossly exaggerated, as illustrated by the fact that mask adoption reached near-universal levels in the US by the summer with little discernible effect on the course of the pandemic.
- Anthony Fauci 's decimal error in estimating Covid's fatality rates (March 11)
Fauci testified before Congress in early March where he was asked to estimate the severity of the disease in comparison to influenza. His testimony that Covid was "10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu" stoked widespread alarm and provided a major impetus for the decision to go into lockdown.
The problem, as Ronald Brown documented in an epidemiology journal article , is that Fauci based his estimates on a conflation of the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) and Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for influenza, leading him to exaggerate the comparative danger of Covid by an order of magnitude. Fauci's error – which he further compounded in a late February article for the New England Journal of Medicine – helped to convince Congress of the need for drastic lockdown measures, while also spreading panic in the media and general public. As of this writing Fauci has not acknowledged the magnitude of his error, nor has the journal corrected his article.
- "Two weeks to flatten the curve" (March 16)
The lockdowners settled on a catchy slogan in mid-March to justify their unprecedented shuttering of economic and social life around the globe: two weeks to flatten the curve. The White House Covid task force aggressively promoted this line , as did the news media and much of the epidemiology profession. The logic behind the slogan came from the ubiquitous graph showing (1) a steep caseload that would overwhelm our hospital system, or (2) a mitigated alternative that would spread the caseload out over several weeks, making it manageable.
To get to graph #2, society would need to buckle up for two weeks of shelter-in-place orders until the capacity issue could be managed. Indeed, we were told that if we did not accept this solution the hospital system would enter into catastrophic failure in only 10 days, as former DHS pandemic adviser Tom Bossert claimed in a widely-circulated interview and Washington Post column on March 11.
Two weeks came and went, then the rationale on which they were sold to the public shifted. Hospitals were no longer on the verge of being overwhelmed – indeed most hospitals nationwide remained well under capacity, with only a tiny number of exceptions in the worst-hit neighborhoods of New York City.
A US Navy hospital ship sent to relieve New York departed a month later after serving only 182 patients , and a pop-up hospital in the city's Javits Convention Center sat mostly empty . But the lockdowns remained in place, as did the emergency orders justifying them. Two weeks became a month, which became two months, which became almost a year. We were no longer "flattening the curve" – a strategy premised on saving the hospital system from a threat than never manifested – but instead refocused on using lockdowns as a general suppression strategy against the disease itself. In short, the epidemiology profession sold us a bill of goods.
- Neil Ferguson predicts a "best case" US scenario of 1.1 million deaths (March 20)
The name Neil Ferguson, the lead modeler and chief spokesman for Imperial College London's pandemic response team, has become synonymous with lockdown alarmism for good reason. Ferguson has a long track record of making grossly exaggerated predictions of catastrophic death tolls for almost every single disease that comes along, and urging aggressive policy responses to the same including lockdowns.
Covid was no different, and Ferguson assumed center stage when he released a highly influential model of the virus's death forecasts for the US and UK. Ferguson appeared with UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on March 16 to announce the shift toward lockdowns (with no small irony, he was coming down with Covid himself at the time and may have been the patient zero of a super-spreader event that ran through Downing Street and infected Johnson himself).
Across the Atlantic, Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx cited Ferguson's model as a direct justification for locking down the US. There was a problem though: Ferguson had a bad habit of dramatically hyping his own predictions to political leaders and the press. The Imperial College paper modeled a broad range of scenarios including death tolls that ranged from tens of thousands to over 2 million, but Ferguson's public statements only stressed the latter – even though the paper itself conceded that such an extreme "worst case" scenario was highly unrealistic. A telling example came on March 20th when the New York Times's Nicholas Kristof contacted the Imperial College modeler to ask about the most likely scenario for the United States. As Kristof related to his readers, "I asked Ferguson for his best case. "About 1.1 million deaths," he said."
- Researchers in Sweden use the Imperial College model to predict 95,000 deaths (April 10)
After Neil Ferguson's shocking death toll predictions for the US and UK captivated policymaker attention and drove both governments into lockdown, researchers in other countries began adapting the Imperial College model to their own circumstances. Usually, these models sought to reaffirm the decisions of each country to lock down. The government of Sweden, however, had decided to buck the trend, setting the stage for a natural experiment to test the Imperial model's performance.
In early April a team of researchers at Uppsala University adapted the Imperial model to Sweden's population and demographics and ran its projections. Their result? If Sweden stayed the course and did not lock down, it could expect a catastrophic 96,000 deaths by early summer. The authors of the study recommended going into immediate lockdown, but since Sweden lagged behind Europe in adopting such measures they also predicted that this "best case" option would reduce deaths to "only" 30,000.
By early June when the 96,000 prediction was supposed to come true, Sweden had recorded 4,600 deaths. Six months later, Sweden has about 8,000 deaths – a severe pandemic to be sure, but an order of magnitude smaller than what the modelers predicted . Facing embarrassment from these results, Ferguson and Imperial College attempted to distance themselves from the Swedish adaptation of their model in early May. Yet the Uppsala team's projections closely matched Imperial's own UK and US predictions when scaled to reflect their population sizes. In short, the Imperial model catastrophically failed one of the few clear natural experiment tests of its predictive ability.
- Scientists suggest that ocean spray spreads Covid (April 2)
In the second week of the lockdowns several newspapers in California promoted a bizarre theory: Covid could spread by ocean spray (although the paper later walked back the headline-grabbing claim, it is outlined here in the Los Angeles Times ). According to this theory – initially promoted by a group of biologists who study bacterial infection connected to storm runoff – the Covid virus washed down storm gutters and into the ocean, where the ocean breeze would kick it up into the air and infect people on the nearby beaches. As silly as this theory now sounds, it helped to inform California's initially draconian enforcement of lockdowns on its public beaches.
The same week that this modern-day miasmic drift theory appeared, police in Malibu even arrested a lone paddleboarder for going into the ocean during the lockdown – all while citing the possibility that the ocean breeze carried Covid with it.
- Neil Ferguson predicts catastrophic death tolls in US states that reopen (May 24)
Fresh off of their exaggerated predictions from March, the Imperial College team led by Neil Ferguson doubled down on alarmist modeling. As several US states started to reopen in late April and May, Ferguson and his colleagues published a new model predicting another catastrophic wave of deaths by the mid-summer. Their model focused on 5 states with both moderate and severe outbreaks during the first wave. If they reopened, according to the Imperial team's model, New York could face up to 3,000 deaths per day by July.
Florida could hit as high as 4,000, and California could hit 5,000 daily deaths. Keeping in mind that these projections were for each state alone, they exceed the daily death toll peaks for the entire country in both the fall and spring. Showing just how bad the Imperial model was, the actual death toll by mid-July in several of the examined states even fell below the lower confidence boundary of its projected count . While Covid remains a threat in all 5 states, the post-reopening explosion of deaths predicted by Imperial College and used to argue for keeping the lockdowns in place never happened.
- Anthony Fauci credits lockdowns for beating the virus in Europe (July 31)
In late July Anthony Fauci offered additional testimony to Congress. His message credited Europe's heavy lockdowns with defeating the virus, whereas he blamed the United States for reopening too early and for insufficient aggressiveness in the initial lockdowns. As Fauci stated at the time, "If you look at what happened in Europe, when they shut down or locked down or went to shelter in place -- however you want to describe it -- they really did it to the tune of about 95% plus of the country did that."
The message was clear: the United States should have followed Europe, but failed to do so and got a summer wave of Covid instead. Fauci's entire argument however was based on a string of falsehoods and errors.
Mobility data from the US clearly showed that most Americans were staying home during the spring outbreak, with a recorded decline that matched Germany, the Netherlands, and several other European countries. Contrary to Fauci's claim, the US was actually slower than most of Europe to reopen. Furthermore, his praise of Europe collapsed in the early fall when almost all of the lockdown countries in Europe experienced severe second waves – just like the locked down regions of the United States.
- New Zealand and Australia declare themselves Covid-free (August-present)
New Zealand and Australia have thus far weathered the pandemic with extremely low case counts, leading many epidemiologists and journalists to conflate these results with evidence of their successful and replicable mitigation policies. In reality, New Zealand and Australia opted for the medieval ' Prince Prospero' strategy of attempting to wall themselves from the world until the pandemic passes – an approach that is highly dependent on their unique geographies.
As island nations with comparatively lower international travel than North America and Europe, both countries shut down their borders before the as-of-yet undetected virus became widespread and have remained closed ever since. It's a costly strategy in terms of its economic impact and personal displacement, but it kept the virus out – mostly.
The problem with New Zealand and Australia's Prince Prospero strategy is that it's inherently fragile. All it takes to throw it into chaos is for the virus to slip past the border – including by accident or human error. Then heavy-handed lockdowns ensue, imposed with maximum disruption at the spur of the moment in a frantic attempt to contain the breach.
The most famous example happened on August 9 when New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern declared that New Zealand had reached 100 days of being Covid-free . Then just two days later a breach happened , sending Auckland into heavy lockdown. It's a pattern that has repeated itself every few weeks in both countries.
In early December, we saw a similar flurry of stories from Australia announcing that the country had beaten Covid . Two weeks later, another breach occurred in the suburbs around Sydney, prompting a regional lockdown . There have been embarrassing missteps as well. In November the entire state of South Australia went into heavy lockdown over a single misreported case of Covid that was mistakenly attributed to a pizza purchase that did not exist. While both countries continue to celebrate their low fatality rates, they've also incurred some of the harshest and most disruptive restrictions in the world – all the result of premature declarations of being "Covid-free" followed by an unexpected breach and another frantic lockdown.
- "Renewed lockdowns are just a strawman" (October)
In early October a group of scientists met at AIER where they drafted and signed the Great Barrington Declaration , a statement calling attention to the severe social and economic harms of lockdowns and urging the world to adopt alternative strategies for ensuring the protection of the most vulnerable. Although the statement quickly gathered tens of thousands of co-signers from health science and medical professionals, it also left the lockdown supporters incensed. They responded not by scientific debate over the merits of their policies, but with a vilification campaign .
They answered by flooding the petition with hoax signatures and juvenile name-calling, and by peddling wildly false conspiracy theories about AIER's funding (the primary instigator of both tactics, ironically, was a UK blogger known for promoting 9/11 Truther conspiracies ). But the lockdowners also adopted another narrative: they began to deny that lockdowns were even on the table.
Nobody was considering bringing back the lockdowns from the spring, they insisted. Arguing against the politically unpopular shelter-in-place orders in the fall only served the purpose of undermining public support for narrower and more temperate restrictions. The Great Barrington authors, we were told, were arguing with a "strawman" from the past.
Over the next several weeks in October a dozen or more prominent epidemiologists, public health experts, and journalists peddled the "lockdowns are a strawman" line . The "strawman" claim saw promotion in top outlets including the New York Times , and in an op-ed by two principle co-signers of the John Snow Memorandum, a competing petition that lockdown supporters drafted as a response to the Great Barrington Declaration.
The message was clear: the GBD was sounding a false alarm against policies from the past that the lockdowners "reluctantly" supported in the spring as an emergency measure but had no intention of reviving. By early November, the "strawman" of renewed lockdowns became a reality in dozens of countries across the globe – often cheered on by the very same people who used the "strawman" canard in October.
Several US states followed suit including California, which imposed severe restrictions on private gatherings up to and including meeting your own family for Thanksgiving and Christmas. And a few weeks after that, some of the very same epidemiologists who used the "strawman" line in October revised their own positions after the fact. They started claiming they had supported a second lockdown all along, and began blaming the GBD for impeding their efforts to impose them at an earlier date. In short, the entire "lockdowns are a strawman" narrative was false. And it now appears that more than a few of the scientists who used it were actively lying about their own intentions in October.
- Anthony Fauci touts New York as a model for Covid containment (June-December)
By all indicators, New York state has suffered one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world. Its year-end mortality rate of almost 1,900 deaths per million residents exceeds every single country in the world. The state famously bungled its nursing home response when Governor Andrew Cuomo forced these facilities to readmit Covid-positive patients as a way to relieve strains on hospitals. The policy backfired as most hospitals never reached capacity, but the readmissions introduced the virus into vulnerable nursing home populations resulting in widespread fatalities (to this day New York intentionally undercounts nursing home fatalities by excluding residents who are moved to a hospital from its reported numbers, further obscuring the true toll of Cuomo's order).
New York has also fared poorly during the fall "second wave" despite reimposing harsh restrictions and regional lockdown measures. By mid-December, its death rate shot far above the mostly-open state of Florida, which has the closest comparable population size to New York. All things considered, New York's weathering of the pandemic is an exemplar of what not to do.
Cuomo's policies not only failed to contain the virus – they likely made it far more deadly to vulnerable populations. Enter Anthony Fauci, who has been asked multiple times in the press what a model Covid response policy would look like. He gave his first answer on July 20th : "We know that, when you do it properly, you bring down those cases. We have done it. We have done it in New York."
Fauci was operating under the assumption that New York, despite its bad run in the spring, had successfully brought the pandemic under control through its aggressive lockdowns and slow reopening. One might think that the fall rebound in New York, despite locking down again, would call this conclusion into question. Not so much for Dr. Fauci, who told the Wall Street Journal on December 8 : "New York got hit really badly in the beginning" but they did "a really good job of keeping things down, and still, their level is low compared to the rest of the country."
Dec 27, 2020 | www.rt.com
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the epidemiologist revered almost religiously as a hero by mainstream media outlets and Democrat politicians, has admitted that he lied to Americans to manipulate their acceptance of a new Covid-19 vaccine.The intentional deception involved estimates for what percentage of the population will need to be immunized to achieve herd immunity against Covid-19 and enable a return to normalcy.
Earlier this year, Fauci said 60-70 percent – a typical range for such a virus – but he moved the goalposts to 70-75 percent in television interviews about a month ago. Last week, he told CNBC that the magic number would be around "75, 80, 85 percent."
When pressed on the moving target in a New York Times interview , Fauci said he purposely revised his estimates gradually. The newspaper, which posted the article on Thursday, said Fauci changed his answers partly based on "science" and partly on his hunch "that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks."
"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Fauci said.
Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85.
Fauci added that he doesn't know the real number but believes the range is 70-90 percent. He said it may take nearly 90 percent, but he won't give that number because Americans might be discouraged, knowing that voluntary acceptance won't be high enough to reach that goal.
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But the doctor's changing story on herd immunity is only the latest in a series of Covid-19 flip-flops, including 180-degree shifts on such core issues as whether members of the general public should wear masks and whether children should be sent back to school.
Just as his tone on herd immunity changed, his view on prospects for a return to normalcy shifted dramatically. A few days before the November 3 presidential election, he echoed Biden's gloomy Covid-19 outlook and implied that the Democrat challenger would deal with the crisis more seriously than President Donald Trump. After the election, he turned far more optimistic.
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"This is not the first time that Fauci has admitted to deceiving the public for utilitarian purposes in regard to coronavirus," journalist Ari Hoffman tweeted . Another observer agreed, pointing out Fauci's flip-flop on masks. "The fact that people still listen to these experts is the most worrying thing," he said.
Setting expectations for getting economic activity back to normal is virtually impossible without realistic projections for the vaccination rate that would provide herd immunity. Dr. Moncef Slaoui, chief scientific adviser for the Trump administration's vaccine rollout, said in late November that "true herd immunity" would take place without about 70 percent of Americans being inoculated, which might be achieved by sometime in May 2021.
Fauci's admitted Covid-19 deception is symptomatic of how government officials "infantilize the American people," one commenter said . "We're going to be in trouble when we don't have Trump to blame everything on and people have to find a way to cope."
Marek Weglinski 22 hours ago 24 Dec, 2020 09:09 PM
Dr. FRAUDCI is the face of chaotic, contradictory and completely bungled approach to this pandemic, in the country which infamously claims the top spot of the number of the dead and infected. Not any hero (what did he contribute beside the lies and misinformation?), and definitely nothing to celebrate. His leadership and that of most other decision makers', thoroughly failed the American people, during this challenging time. The real heroes are the UNKNOWN, -those who put their lives on line to save others (mostly medical personnel).It's me 23 hours ago 24 Dec, 2020 08:32 PMAnd the next day, Dr Fraudci did a video: Had a good nights sleep, but the arm was a bit sore (grabbing his RIGHT arm) but it's not that bad. Really, you can't remember which arm you got Jabbed after 1 day. Normally you can't move the arm that gets jabbed with a needle without a lot of pain.ClairvoyantHW It's me 4 hours ago 25 Dec, 2020 03:39 PMI don't unterstand why they can't use a real placebo in the studies when Fauci just recieved one..Arian1 It's me 18 hours ago 25 Dec, 2020 01:47 AMIt was a sugary solution. He is a demente
Dec 27, 2020 | www.youtube.com
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Healthy JeanSUBSCRIBE If you want to find out more about the #casedemic https://healthyjean.com/corona/ . Sorry, but I do not have more context about this video. I will tell you that Kary hated Fauci because Fauci is one of the main people behind the AIDS scam. Read here straight from Kary's website https://www.karymullis.com/pdf/On_AID... On AIDS Regarding AIDS I have published a hypothesis wherein the Retroviridae in general, rather than a particular species, is the problem. This was published in Genetica 95:195- 197, 1995. It offers a mechanism for how the disease develops, and importantly makes predictions that can be experimentally confirmed or falsified easily in rodents. This hypothesis may or may not be true but it illustrates the nature of a useful scientific hypothesis. This is in contrast to the current AIDS establishment's "It's the virus, stupid!" No experiments were ever done or even suggested to test the HIV hypothesis. The fact that antiretroviral therapies may prolong the lives of some people infected with retroviruses says nothing more than the fact, that. in other cases they are not at all useful. Something is going on here that we don't understand. Scientists have to keep that in mind. If you want to see another great video on this topic of Kary then go https://youtu.be/zYYmpT2y7Io . It talks about how the PCR is not really a test. He clearly states the PCR is not being misused. What Fauci and the others are doing is amplifying the tests beyond what should be done. The issue is they use these results as is they are meaningful is the problem. He also states that the measurement is not exact. He is clearly talking about how the results are being used to say someone has AIDS when they clearly do not. Again, the interpretations are the issue. The PCR not meant to diagnose, period.Carolyn Gutman Dey , 2 weeks agoExcellent. Thanks for the video. I'd just like to throw this reminder out there re: the title of the video. PCR is not a test.
Here is a link to a larger excerpt of this interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IifgAvXU3ts However, this isn't the entire interview. I will try to find the entire interview.... everyone start searching. In any case, I think THIS part of it might not be in the link I just posted (I haven't checked yet). Because a few months ago I watched this video and I don't remember him going after Fauci this hard. But I will rewatch it to see. We need to find the original video interview as a whole, that would be best.
Dec 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Thanks in part to a massive investment in research by the British government, a lot of interesting data has come out of the UK, including a study which supposedly found evidence that immunity to COVID 'degrades' in the months after infection . Now, other studies have come to seemingly contradictory conclusions . It's just another reminder how fraught and complicated the process of study and research can be during an unprecedented pandemic.
It should also be a reminder, particularly as all the world's top COVID-vaccine manufacturers reassure the public that their vaccines will work against the more infectious mutated strains allegedly discovered in the UK and South Africa, among other places, that the leading scientific and public health authorities aren't always 100% certain when it comes to - as they like to call it - "the science".
And in yet another reminder of this principle, the American Medical Association's JAMA Network Open journal has published new research from a government-backed study that appears to offer new evidence that asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 may be significantly lower than previously thought.
Some members of the public might remember all the way back in February and January when public officials first speculated that mass mask-wearing might not be that helpful unless individuals were actually sick. They famously back-tracked on that, and - for that, and other reasons - decided that we should all wear masks, and that lockdowns were more or less the best solution to the problem, even as millions of Americans continued to flout the new "rules" daily.
But for those who don't, this paper makes one thing clear: For all the talk in the press about asymptomatic people being infectious, which included a heavy-handed rebuke of a WHO scientist who nonchalantly said a few months back that asymptomatic people don't spread the virus as effectively, there haven't been many large-sample-size longer-term studies that study how "asymptomatic" patients actually spread the virus vs. how "symptomatic" patients do, since most public health agencies don't even collect data on whether people who test positive are asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, or symptomatic (a specification which, as most people probably know by now, can vary widely).
Since the pandemic has only been ongoing for less than a year now, researchers have instead tried conducting "meta studies" - that is, comparing data collected in dozens of studies examining some aspect of the virus's functionality. In the paper noted above which examined 54 separate studies with nearly 78K total participants, the authors claim that "The lack of substantial transmission from observed asymptomatic index cases is notable...These findings are consistent with other household studies reporting asymptomatic index cases as having limited role in household transmission."
This is of course not the first time we have heard this. Aside from the WHO scientist example cited above, two British scientists recently published an editorial in the BMJ imploring scientists to rethink how the virus spreads "asymptomatically".
They pointed to "the absence of strong evidence that asymptomatic people are a driver of transmission" as a reason to question such practices as "mass testing in schools, universities, and communities."
That's not to say that asymptomatic people can't spread the virus, it's just to say that maybe there is a significant difference in risk levels in terms of exposure . Of course, public health officials at this point seem to be afraid to acknowledge anything that questions the notion that everybody is potentially a threat. To be clear, the WHO's current guidance on the issue is that "while someone who never develops symptoms can also pass the virus to others, it is still not clear to what extent this occurs, and more research is needed in this area" - but at this point, they have changed their guidance and flip-flopped so many times, who even knows, understands or cares what they say?
Anyway, it's just some more food for thought next time somebody tries to lecture you about "the science".
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valjoux7750 1 hour agoAsymptomatic people can not spread a viral infection.
This was considered fact until 2020.
Robespierre2020 23 minutes agoFriend of mine passed away from non covid illness and the hospital offered to pay all his medical bills if allowed to record as covid. His wife accepted.
Itchy and Scratchy 1 hour agoThey will never, ever admit that asymptomatic actually means false positive. They must keep the case count up at all costs to keep stoking the fear.
Newstarmistagain 1 hour agoThe Big Lie is mutating quickly! Hide the women & children!
PanGlossius 1 hour agoAnybody else get the feeling that this coronavirus nonsense is really nothing more than a huge Pavlovian experiment being conducted on the entire population? You do realize that Pavlov's dogs ended up catatonic, and in a state of perpetual fear, eh goiyim cattle?
namrider 1 hour ago remove linkRight on. This smells like the brute simplicity of Skinner or Pavlov programming. Crude, careless, short time horizon. Like the practitioners are just running out the clock.
MrBoompi 33 minutes agoConflicting reports and information because it = PSYOP
jomama 46 minutes agoWhat is a "covid patient"? Someone who tested positive? The pcr test doesn't detect live viruses. Why would someone who is not sick, aka asymptomatic, be considered a patient?
This is the fraud we are enduring.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w
Out of ~10,000,000 people observed, not a single case of asymptomatic transmission.
This lie has the been premise for healthy people to wear masks.
Reject the authoritarianism immediately.
Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Do mask mandates work? As we've noted repeatedly in recent months, evidence is piling up that they do not .
According to analysis by data expert Justin Hart, who has been following COVID-19 data for months , demonstrated in a Sunday Twitter thread that states with mask mandates had a greater number of COVID cases per 100,000 people than states without mandates .
See thread below:
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And while there were some objections to Hart's analysis - such as whether there might be bias towards getting tested for mask-wearers, or regional differences in population density, many of the replies to Hart's thread support his findings:
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And a hypothesis:
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Maybe the CDC, WHO, Dr. Fauci and the Surgeon General were right in February when they said masks don't work? On the other hand, they're so useful for other things...
Dec 21, 2020 | twitter.com
Kevin McKernan @Kevin_McKernan Dec 14
It's an intuitive hypothesis Since the mask doesn't kill virus, it just collects them reversing your natural defenses of expelling virus with large droplets that hit earth. The mask accelerates evaporation through capillary action making smaller droplets 2 allow deep inhalation.Kevin McKernan @Kevin_McKernan Dec 14In effect, the masks are a viral trampoline making the virus exponentially more infective and reaching deeper into more thrombotic tissue. Some evidence Kanas jumped on this trampoline in the summer.DeFauw @jdefauw Dec 14
Zacharias Fögen @ZachariasFoegen · Dec 14 You can translate the german intro with google if you want. The study is written in English. https:// reitschuster.de/post/studie-er hoehen-die-masken-die-sterblichkeit/Replying to@Kevin_McKernan Dec 14@Kevin_McKernan At best, we can say for aerosolized virus that mask does nothing. At worst, worse after mask saturation. For non-aerosolized virus, it would actually do some good. On the other hand, airborne transmission of this type is minimal. Handwashing, good hygiene take care of the rest.Eric @emckinney9134 Dec 14Replying to@Kevin_McKernan Dec 14@Kevin_McKernan Interesting paper. It's somewhat difficult to disambiguate increased CFR from the Foegen effect or another confounding variable (e.g., poor aseptic technique). The mathematical comparison does a good job normalizing the two groups. Plotting as a function of time may be of use.
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Much heralded COVID-19 model-student South Korea saw new infections with the virus rise again to more than 1,000 cases per day, dramatically higher than during the first wave in February and March.
Here's CNN : "In Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, South Korea, Japan and other Asian nations, mask wearing is uncontroversial, near universal, and has been proven effective ..."
Here's Forbes : " What South Korea teaches us is that ... mass production and distribution of face masks and the promotion of their use, are winning strategies in this battle. "
Here's NYTimes : "The country showed that it is possible to contain the coronavirus without shutting down the economy... Television broadcasts, subway station announcements and smartphone alerts provide endless reminders to wear face masks ..."
The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has hailed South Korea as demonstrating that containing the virus, while difficult, "can be done." He urged countries to "apply the lessons learned in Korea and elsewhere."
As Statista's Willem Roper notes , the country has been praised extensively for reducing cases of COVID-19 , but a continuously climbing case count shows how the threat of new outbreaks looms even after flattening the curve (twice before).
After a second outbreak in August and September was squashed, South Korea had already tightened restrictions again.
The highest number of daily new cases in the initial wave was recorded at 813 on Feb 29.
https://610bc4ea67a8d8ec5db4f06859c42979.safeframe.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-37/html/container.html
You will find more infographics at Statista
Still, these cases being recorded now are only a sliver of those detected daily in the U.S. and Europe. There, daily new case counts of COVID-19 are still in the tens of thousands... so keep wearing your masks!!!
🔥 🔥 🔥!!!!
This is insane! Every country that introduced mandatory masks had their case numbers explode after!! Mask don't work!
Retweet!!!! pic.twitter.com/3VssX0WK4V
-- The Epigenetic Whisperer 👉The Bodhisattva Bastard (@epigwhisp) December 16, 2020
ebworthen 14 hours ago (Edited)
skizex 14 hours agoBecause masks don't do a beaver dam thing.
Never have, never will. Especially not "surgical" masks, or cloth rags.
Symbolic only. Symbolic for oppression of the individual and the freedom of choice.
afronaut 13 hours agoand makes beaver eatin difficult if not downright unpleasant.
Billy the Poet 13 hours ago (Edited)Thats submissive and unhygienic
xious 11 hours agoHas it gotten cold enough yet for masks to start freezing to the faces of folks out in the wind waiting for a bus?
hawkinsse6543 7 hours ago (Edited)In the summer, I almost drowned in one. Then I quit my job the next day. Haven't worn a mask from that day, and never will again.
artless 2 hours agoPoint three percent according to a Danish Study
.3% effective
I heard zinc impregnated masks work so it will increase effectiveness to what? I'm Too lazy to do the mathSunshine, D3, Tonic Water, C, wash hands (only thing proposed I agree with) moderate preventives not a cure. But the virus goes where it goes and lets promote stopping smoke with a chicken wire fence.
Arising 2.0 13 hours ago99.8% survival rate or as we say in there real world...
a cold virus. A flu.
all BS from day one.
exactly correct about sunshine, D3 ( also known as sunshine) and if really concerned a zinc supplement as prophylaxis along with all the Vit C you want. Same as every winter as all my 51 years. Currently on a 36-38 years streak of NEVER having a flu and I have worked in every possible situation in which I should have gotten sick. Never have. never will.
dude675 13 hours agoMasks are the elites pointing and saying 'look there' with the their right hand while stealing wealth, your freedoms and your capacity to fight back with their left hand.
metaforge 10 hours agoWag the dog
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoChoke the Chinkkkkk
trailer park boys 13 hours agoWe're all prisoners of China, forced into solitary confinement with matching outfits.
JuliaS 13 hours ago (Edited)If masks worked, that box of masks you bought at the drug store or online would say so. They don't. In fact, just the opposite, disclaiming any protection against any virus, including covid.
Slaytheist 13 hours agoMasks and lockdowns worked. They weakened immunity to the point where a common cold now puts a person in a coma.
afronaut 13 hours agoFvcking NPC yelling at people to put a scrap of cotton on their face to contain a virus, because the science is settled. Maybe eugenics isn't a 100% bad thing.
skizex 12 hours agoI loved the eugenics program.
metaforge 10 hours agoTheir's is Psyience not Science.
here's some good info this damn maskuerade
Public Health articles by Colleen Huber, NMD
Censorship vs the science regarding masks, 10/29/2020
(Co-authored) Masks: False safety and real dangers,
Part 2 : Masks and microbial challenges, 10/14/2020
(Co-authored) Masks: False safety and real dangers,
Part 1 : Loose fibers and particulate, 9/23/2020
COVID-19 is a lack of nutrients, exploited by a virus 8/27/2020
Masks are neither effective nor safe, 7/6/2020 <meta study
freedommusic 10 hours agoFree lead for NPCs! That's a government program I could get behind.
Fireman 8 hours agoMasks can't stop a psyop.
They can only measure it's effectiveness.
chemist46 7 hours agoBest comment today!
Grand Solar Minimum 4 hours agoHow can they possibly work?
They are NOT designed to stop particles as small as a virus.
Surgical masks were not designed as filters and were not intended to be used as filters. Surgical masks were designed to be used by surgeons standing face down over an operating table holding a patient with an open wound. The surgeon wearing the mask would be able to talk to others in the room without discharging spittle droplets into the patient's wound. Spittle droplets are large and can cause infection.
I witnessed a test of surgical masks. Small plaster particles were generated in a room. They were visible as a white dust in the air. A man was properly fitted with a surgical mask and spent a short time in the room. When he came out the mask was removed. A camera was focused on the man's face. The entire area that had been covered by the mask was coated by the white dust. The camera showed that his nostrils and his mouth had been penetrated by the white dust. The dust particles were measured and found to be around 40 micrometers in diameter. The particles that penetrated the mask were the same diameter.
Covid-19 virus molecules are about 0.1 micrometers in diameter. That is 400 times smaller than the plaster particles that penetrated the mask.
Surgical masks will not prevent the wearer from inhaling or exhaling viruses or bacteria. They provide absolutely no protection for either the wearer or anyone nearby. They create a very dangerous false sense of security for everyone. They also force the wearer to rebreath carbon dioxide. Which will over time reduce the wearers blood oxygen level. That can become very dangerous especially for older people.
This farce is being promoted by sleazy politicians who believe that if they can convince people that they are protecting them or creating a safe environment for them by pushing this mask farce those people will re-elect them.
All politicians pushing this dangerous mask farce should be voted out of office as soon as possible.
Nature_Boy_Wooooo 13 hours agoMinor correction.
All politicians pushing this dangerous mask farce should be jailed soon as possible.
That's better.
@Amen 13 hours agoThey rushed mask science out faster than the vaccine.
Worse...they debunked actual science done on N95 masks 4 years ago that said masks don't work..... without a single scientific experiment.
They should never have lowered the bar for education.
FightClubPanties 13 hours agoIt's not the masks. USA and most western countries forced their citizens to wear them, most of them do, without visible results. Could it be that drinking green tea and taking zinc really helps? (ZH wrote about it months ago). Everyone can get the virus, mask or no mask, but the difference in consequences is quite startling.
In Deaths per million population, the leader is Belgium, with 1,582 / million, USA is in 12th place, with 958 per million.
In South East Asia:
Japan 22 deaths per million,
Hong Kong 16
South Korea 13
Singapore 5
Vietnam 0.4
Taiwan 0.3
(Data from www.worldometers.info as of today).
Boosting one's immune system from cheap and easy-accessible sources would not make the elite and big corporations rich, nor make the would be dictators in governments and regulatory agencies so powerful, second to God.
So, we keep dying, destroying our economy, and voting for the mass murderers again and again.
Happy 2021!
@Amen 12 hours ago (Edited)Whadda bout ChyNa?
halcyon 10 hours agoChina has 3 deaths per million, you make the judgement about the accuracy of their reporting. Nevertheless, they drink mostly green tea and eat stuff rich in zinc. And they have undestricted partying for months now, even in Wuhan.
Link to the past ZH article from last august is
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-08-05/hydroxychloroquine-and-coronavirus
and, so far, it works for me here in Canada. Costco supplies green tea (from Japan) and Walmart zinc tablets, about 6 bucks for three months worth of prevention. And I don't plan to take the vaccine, even if its free here.
Snaffew16 10 hours agoIMASK+ PROPHYLAXIS PROTOCOL
https://covid19criticalcare.com/i-mask-prophylaxis-treatment-protocol/
Table 6. I-MASK+ Prophylaxis & Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol for COVID-19
PROPHYLAXIS PROTOCOL MEDICATION
lvermectin RECOMMENDED DOSING
Vitamin D3 Vitamin C Quercetin Zinc MelatoninWorks!
KirkPatrickN 7 hours agoIt's quite obvious that people should be exposing themselves to this predominantly non lethal virus as much as possible. Herd immunity has likely already been achieved here in the US and globally, but there is so much money to be made on these untested, genome altering vaccines that they will not stop the propaganda. The incredible surge in power and control over the populations has also enabled them to up their game in regards to ripping every freedom imaginable from the populace and stepping the bullsh*it up to hyperdrive---
If you have already tested positive, then there is absolutely zero reason to get a vaccine. if you had just recovered from the flu, do you run out and get a flu vaccine? Nope...there is no reason to.
afronaut 13 hours agoEven if masks worked for more than the first few minutes, that would mean we'd become dependent on them.
Cobra Commander 12 hours agoFvk I've had enough of this ****.
metaforge 10 hours ago"This tweet is from a suspended account. "
Thanks for nothing, Twitter. I just wanted to see the graph comparing mask wear with positive cases.
Oh, is that too dangerous for me to see?
Cobra!
louie1 PREMIUM 12 hours agoWow when even Cobra Commander calls someone evil? They MUST be evil.
Cobra!
Corn Popp 12 hours ago (Edited)If you are at risk then take precautions. Everyone else- get on with life and tell the government to go **** themselves.
metaforge 10 hours agoThe corporations wont do that. and people have to work. There are not enough jobs outside those businesses. and those businesses are forcing employees to wear face diapers or get fired. It has to be a top down movement against the progenitors and they must be held accountable, otherwise none of the states and business will follow thru to restore individual rights
Tigbits 13 hours agoOnly good comment I've seen from a premium tagged Kappo yet.
Corn Popp 13 hours ago (Edited)Amazing that after nine months they still want to keep beating the mask drum. Exhausting.
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoI'm sure you are aware by now that all it ever was is a clear sign of your submission to them. As well as a training tool to get you to accept whatever they push on you...ie..mandatory vaxxing for sterilization, control and culling.....the next step. Well, and to have a good laugh and masturbate to misery and suffering. It's what gets them off
Alan Cruiser 11 hours agoRead the ZH article on the nurse collapsing and sort by Worst comments.
These people pushing vaccines will literally giggle as you drop dead.
Taffer 12 hours agoThe conclusion is wrong, if cases are still climbing so much, then apparently the masks don't work because everybody is already wearing them. I am getting so tired of the nonsense.
halcyon 11 hours agoLiberal God Fauci in April: "Masks don't work! Only healthcare workers need to wear them or even should be wearing them."
Liberal Keebler elf Fauci in May: "Masks work! Everyone should be wearing a mask!"
Seriously, you can't make lies on this level up. The man says this on national tv, calls himself an expert, and the useful idiots lap it up like CNN propaganda.
Patmos 13 hours agoFauci co-authored a paper in 2008 that showed that napkin wearing increased prevalence of bacterial pneumonia.
Maybe he just forgot about it...
FightClubPanties 13 hours agoPsychological warfare techniques from The Cold War to The War on Terror, compared to COVID restrictions:
https://twitter.com/mediamonarchy/status/1327119271047159812
But ignore that, because this is all about safety. [/sarcasm]
Oh-Globits 14 hours agogo look at the compliance rates for Covid-Burqas. The US is among the very highest compliance.
afronaut 13 hours agoWear a face diaper...it's patriotic!
KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago (Edited)It looks like underwear to me. I'd be too embarrassed to put one on in public. Its dirty and looks retarded
Mrgior31513 14 hours agoI've never worn one. My (no) mask is to protect YOU (from tyranny).
FightClubPanties 14 hours agoMasks are simply worse for a blatantly obvious reason: they provide false confidence and therefor breed irresponsible behavior from the perceived sense of safety.
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoReusing any mask defeats the claimed purpose. And everybody is wearing filthy pieces of cloth; stuffing in their purses, pants, fingering them on and off.
Tom Angle 5 hours ago (Edited)Some people hang them on their rear view mirror and I saw one with several shades of lipstick on the inside.
I'd like to see a bacterial analysis of these masks people are wearing, and see them under a black light.
Pater-Mater 7 hours agohttps://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
"We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility ( Figure 2 ). However, as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched."
It was known from the beginning. Are you tired of the lies and tyrrany yet? Stand up like men and stop it.
Cincinnatuus 9 hours agoA 2008 study in Turkey showed a significant reduction in oxygen intake or rather carbon monoxide respiration. This directly lowers the immune system making infection much more likely. Do circumvent this oxygen is pumped into operating rooms..
Secondly, in medical practice the mask is changed every twenty minutes and not touched at all. This is now followed.
Lastly, the virus has mutated to a benign form, it is highly likely that everyone has it, thusly the likelihood of any further great event or health crisis is next to none. Aannd, RLF-100 trial will be over soon, it's already proven effective, it's cheap, there are no long term consequences, it will cure nearly all intensive care situations.. the propaganda is obvious.
KirkPatrickN 7 hours agoThe number of cases of the China Flu is inversely proportional with the number of hours of sunlight.
Supplement your Vitamin D (5,000 IU), and when you get it, you won't even know you had it!
Obake158 11 hours agoExactly. Cold symptoms ARE Vitamin D deficiency. Covid victims have proven to be deficient. Staying inside and wearing masks outside only hurt matters (you shameless, shivering RETARDS).
What's the best natural source of, or supplement for Vitamin D?
metaforge 10 hours agoSo I can see the plan from the Globohomos already. They are going to lower the PCR test thresholds from 45 to 20 and claim that the vaccine has substantially lessened the severity and prevalence of Democrat Meme Flu. The cat is out of the bag now regarding the fake testing regimen and people are waking up to the PCR testing amplification thresholds being set way too high thus a massive wave of false positives. My state tests at 45 cycles. Anything over around 20 renders the test useless with so much background noise as to almost ensure everyone testing will be positive for viral RNA. So here is the next leg of their plan, mass inoculate the fearful NPCs and then claim success while quietly manipulating the testing regimen.
Dash8 6 hours agoMy state's "cases" were already dropping fast from the "winter peak" even before the BS vaccine. So that won't fly here, even if they try it.
KirkPatrickN 4 hours ago (Edited)Masks are for virtue signalling libtards.
The end.
AVmaster 13 hours agoMasks never would have become a thing had we not let all the women become obese parasites. For years the grocery store has been depressing as countless women of every race scramble to buy free things with their EBT cards while hating on wh ite men. These creatures willingly covered their faces because they are embarrassed to be seen.
Fizzy Head 14 hours ago"The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has hailed South Korea as demonstrating that containing the virus, while difficult, "can be done.""
Umm... we are way past the phase of containment...
... covid 19 is everywhere in the world...
wtf are you really talking about you idiots...
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoSo what happens when the ICU nurses become the patients? Well now we have a problem...
JuliaS 10 hours ago (Edited)It's called flu season.
KirkPatrickN 7 hours agoYou could've had a functioning economy and a disease. You chose only the disease. Now the healthy won't be able to help the sick, and will see how long the saved grandma will last after her grandkids commit suicide due to depression, or overdose on drugs.
Thanks for saving the world.
Lore 12 hours agoIt's the equivalent of a pilot of a loaded jumbo jet announcing "This is the pilot speaking. Due to my fear of catching sniffles I've decided it's just too dangerous to land. Ever."
asteroids 13 hours ago"Case" doesn't mean beans, because the polymerase chain reaction was never intended for use as a "test." You might as well use a black box electronic device to tally votes in a national election. Oh, wait...
Show us the data for deaths sans co-morbidities and fudge, and then we'll talk. In the meantime, it's just another layer of BS.
metaforge 10 hours agoOne way or another, you WILL get the virus. Resistance is futile. Wake me up when "masks" are as effective as birth control.
pods 7 hours agoNot me bitch. I'm superdosing C, D, Zinc, Echinnacea, etc. That fvcking virus ain't jumping this wall!
Magnum 13 hours agoCareful on zinc. Too much is not good.
FightClubPanties 14 hours agoTwitter suspended The Epigenetic Whisperer now that he's pointed this out.
writeround 7 hours agoI have no idea if their reporting isn't fraudulent, any more than the Japanese or chinchongs.
Pater-Mater 7 hours agoThe increase d number of of cases is irrelevant unless presented as a percentage of the number of tests. More tests/more cases?
Usuage of masks is usless if missused. Daily use of the same mask/turning mask inside out/close proximity in enclosed places/not washing or sanitsing hands are all transmission methods.
kellys_eye 8 hours agoSo is reduced oxygen intake, increased carbon monoxide intake and a reduced immune system. Why wouldnt infections increase?
NIRP-BTFD 8 hours ago... because wearing a mask that doesn't work to prevent an illness that doesn't exist (or at worst has a 99.8% recovery rate i. e. better than the flu/influenza) is all our 'exceptional leadership' can come up with?
The problem isn't the virus - the problem is and always has been the MEDIA.
Fireman 9 hours agoNo the problem are corrupt politicians that work for the 0.1% instead of the people. The media of course is owned by the 0.1% so they are an issue as well.
Nona Yobiznes 12 hours agoOxygen Deprivation Therapy ....all that can save US now.
Remember oh tax chattel, as Onkel Adolf said "Hypoxia und Hypercapnia macht frei."
Sieg Heil.......same as it ever was.
Onward to your doom, rag mouths coz the satanists need y'all dead.
hypoxia
[hi-pok´se-ah]
diminished availability of oxygen to the body tissues; its causes are many and varied and includes a deficiency of oxygen in the atmosphere, as in altitude sickness ; pulmonary disorders that interfere with adequate ventilation of the lungs; anemia or circulatory deficiencies, leading to inadequate transport and delivery of oxygen to the tissues; and finally, edema or other abnormal conditions of the tissues themselves that impair the exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between capillaries and tissues. adj., adj hypox´ic.
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hypoxia
hypercapnia
(hī′pər-kăp′nē-ə)
n.
1. An abnormally high concentration of carbon dioxide in the blood, usually caused by acute respiratory failure from conditions such as asthma and obstructive pulmonary disease. It can lead to seizures and death if acute and untreated.
2. Carbon dioxide poisoning due to abnormally high concentrations of carbon dioxide in an organism's environment.
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hypercapnia
Take the poll and see how many globally have figured this Psy Op Satanic pedovore bankster cull for what it is.
you_do 5 hours agoIt's very obvious masks don't do **** to stop infection. Anyone who still says they do is willfully blind.
whatisthat 6 hours agoHmmm... When looking at the Korea graph, I get the idea that there might be some seasonal influence?
Meritocrat 7 hours agoThis post demonstrates how American taxpayers are fools for believing propaganda from the deviant corrupt WHO....
NIRP-BTFD 8 hours agoLedlak 8 hours agoMaybe it has something to do with even mask manufacturers have a disclaimer on their surgical/cloth masks stating "does not protect against viruses".
Fireman 8 hours ago (Edited)"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
Songalini 9 hours agoDespite the herd of self-harming, virtue-signalling masked mutton that surrounds you there are indeed millions of aware and decent people around the planet that get it. You are not alone, we are 5%, as much of the population as the ruling psychopaths and sociopaths i.e. the disgusting, Satanic pedovores like Schwab, Gates, STASI "Erika" Merkill, Bozo the clown, banksters, presstitutes and almost all political mutts the sheeple call their "leaders" and the rest of the evil Rothschild enablers.
The docile herd can be turned like a weathervane and will be turned again...that is the beauty of the balance built into nature. Evolution has created a mass of ignorant, pliant human livestock with a purpose. 10% of the naked apes can more or less reason and act upon that reasoning for good or bad...the rest will be turned like sheep and always have been. Look at the history of pedovores running the Catholic Church and yet the peasants flock to these evil bastards on a Sunday to "commune" with God....god help us. Ask yourself the question; would you prefer to live in a world with 90 wolves and ten sheep, or a world with 90 sheep and 10 wolves? As for the evil Klaus "Schwab", the geriatric bastard progeny of NAZI Germany... his NAZI spawners also hallucinated about their wondervoll 1000 Year Reich dystopia and if I recall...they and their anglozionazi backers may have slaughtered millions, but in the end we are still pissing on their NAZI graves.
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Enemy-Money-Can-Buy/dp/1939438233
Take the poll and please spread far and wide.
deadcat2 8 hours agoI get where you're going with this article.
Ultimately what I think you're saying is that masks are not the be all and end all to ending the covid pandemic.
And with that I wholeheartedly agree.
But where we differ is on the conclusions from this counter-intuitive fact.
Ultimately what masks do is they reduce the transmission of the virus. I say this from the following observation...
It makes sense logically that masks prevents a lot of transmissions of the covid virus because at the end of the day only sick people can infect others. It has been shown on the Japanese broadcaster NHK that the particles thrown out by a sick person coughing when masked up vs. non-masked is exponentially less. Infra-red cameras show that masks block a lot of particles and thus even if a person is sick, their likelihood of infecting others through spraying particles everywhere around them, is greatly reduced.
And it makes logical sense without overthinking it (a good example of Occam's razor) - if you have some fabric that blocks your coughs, isn't it logical to presume that pretty much all the spit and phlegm that usually accompanis a cough would be blocked by that same fabric? (I mean why else do tissues get wet when u sneeze or cough in them?)
So the effectiveness of masks is in that they prevent a lot of dangerous situations from turning into a transmission event. Its a preventative measure, people! That's the fundamental thing you need to understand!!!!!
Is it gonna prevent every ******* roll of dice from turning into a transmission event? Of course not.
There'll be instances where due to present circumstances a potential infection turns into an actual infection. That is not something we can avoid. Something will always get through the gates - how many times has a seemingly impregnable defence been breached throughout history? I can name the Maginot Line and the Multiple Walls of Constantinople.
The point we all have to understand is that there is no silver bullet to this piece of **** virus. We can't keep arguing about the fundamental fact that masks help prevent transmissions. It prevents but does not eliminate - elimination is impossible. This ****** will eventually, always get through the most carefully laid traps.
We just need to learn that effective prevention means that half the war has already been won.
on't tell me you actually think
KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago (Edited)A truly stupid comment. What you should be asking is, When is a case, positive test or an infection an actual illness. Who is supervising the labs which do the tests? Who decides on what the size of the 'amplification should be? Karry Mullis, the world famous scientists and Nobel prize winner who actually invented and designed the PCR test said, amplifications above 30 are useless. Currently, all countries are amplifying above 45 and some even as far as 50. Lets put it this way: if there were no tests there would be no virus numbers. The only numbers that would matter would be hospital admissions. Did you know, that here in the UK a hospital admission is counted even if the patient is discharged the same day !!
The evidence shows that hospital admissions are the same this year (for the UK and the US at least) as they have been on average for the last ten years.
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoScience is not based on your personal observation of what your female brain considers logical.
It's about a double blind, placebo controlled study to PROVE something.
There is no silver bullet for these piece of **** people pushing lockdowns, masks and vaccines over sniffles based on their innermost feelings.
Galieo 7 hours agoLook at the side view of people in masks. There is a direct path to their mouth. Their breath is now pushed sideways (see physics) and probably goes even further (just like whistling is louder than breathing).
Pater-Mater 7 hours ago+5
Masks help a lot, distance is even better.
MCDirtMigger 6 hours agoYou are looking at a single element justifying everything. If people can't be helped to not sneeze on someone it's a bigger issue... Then why aren't only sick people wearing them? What about oxygen deprivations? Increase risk and cases of bacterial infection?(from masks) carcinogens of surgical masks??
Masks are not a solution, there is no science to back this, only the opposite.
pictur3plane 13 hours agoFrom the CDC website:
In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25)
If you live somewhere cold, put your mask on, go outside and exhale a big breath of air, come back and tell us what you see. Don't be an idiot.
adr 13 hours agoThe facts haven't changed: unless you are wearing a properly fitted N95 respirator your mask is doing little to protect you or other people. While it is better than no mask as there is the chance it will somewhat reduce to viral inoculum and possibly the severity of infection, it gives people a false sense of security. The media/celebrity mantra of "JUST WEAR THE MASK" gives the impression that is all you have to do to protect yourself. Also, most people are so incredibly stupid. Have you seen people try and drive a car correctly? And you think these people are well versed in how invisible disease is spread? I can't tell you how many times I see people take their mask off unless someone comes in the office. They don't get it. They are morons. It is kind of a miracle only 300,000 people a day are getting infected in this country.
pictur3plane 12 hours agoN95 respirators are not designed for and can not filter virus. Anyone saying so is lying. The literature packed with every real N95 mask even says in the warning that they are designed to filter specific particles and will not protect from biological agents.
The manufacturers aren't going to open themselves to billions in liability lawsuits for making a claim that can not be backed up with evidence and an actual standard.
No mask outside a full on respirator with disposable filters will help you. If you are infected, they are worthless because they only filter incoming air, not exhaled. So you will be contaminating anything you breath on.
Cloth masks will not reduce the severity of an infection, they will make it worse. You will increase the load of any respiratory pathogen as you breath it into the cloth and breathe it back in.
Studies done on surgical masks found that they had no effect on preventing bacterial infections of surgical wounds. The only purpose of a surgical mask is to prevent expelled fluids from open body cavities from entering a surgeon's nose and mouth.
Sorry to break the bad news.
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoThere is no such thing as free floating virus particles. They are attached to respiratory droplets which are large enough to be filtered by N95 masks.
The idea that you would somehow increase your viral load by wearing a mask and re-breathing particles back into your lungs is whatever the opposite of known science is.
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoWhile you are at it, why not drink your own urine to help stop the droplets from spreading. And wear a diaper instead of using the rest room. My Depends are to protect YOU.
pictur3plane 6 hours agoN95 masks have a release valve. They don't help others.
KirkPatrickN 4 hours agoIt really is quite a spectacle to watch complete morons who don't know what they're talking about strut around like hillbilly peacocks in the ZH comment section.
KirkPatrickN 4 hours agoDear angry, pudgy woman: please explain how N95 masks (specially designed with a VALVE on the front) "protect others". What study proves they do?
Meanwhile, Surgical masks only work for 15 minutes in a STERILE environment. Hint: your hand and Walmart are not sterile. What study proves masks do any good whatsoever? We know filthy spit wads do lots of harm by cutting off children, oxygen and humanity.
pictur3plane 3 hours agoI've had a box of 3M N95 masks since 2014 (back when they had an Asian guy on the box - how you say Kung Fru?). Never wore one because it says right on the side of the box "DOES NOT PREVENT COVID OR FLU".
KirkPatrickN 4 hours agoA box of masks for 2014 says "DOES NOT PREVENT COVID", huh?
Go back to your NASCAR videos.
FightClubPanties 14 hours agoDescribe how any study could possibly prove that "masks help others". Fat girls made that up after donning them willingly to cover their fugly faces. Then they wanted the pretty girls to do the same thing. Now: equality!
Delusion Spotter 3 hours ago (Edited)A couple of thousand cases among 30 plus million. give me a break. And we don't even know what their cycle threshold is if using the PCR test.
NumbNuts 10 hours agoNot Wearing Masks = today's Freedom Fries!
Think the more important issue is Lockdowns, which destroy businesses, livelihoods, and the Economy.
Definately need legislation that would impose prison on any politician that proposes Lockdowns for any reason in the future (Is immediate public Burning at a Stake after due process / legal trial too extreme??)).
trada101 11 hours ago (Edited)Masks don't beat phony test results.
metaforge 11 hours agoWhy do people have such short memories??? There is nothing surprising about the winter surge. How many dumbasses are out there? People have been warning about the winter surge since the summer.
Since you idiots don't seem to understand why, it's precisely BECAUSE
1. People spend more time with each other indoors during colder months leading to increases viral load.
2. People also spend more time indoors for get togethers with friends ad family and not wear masks.
Cincinnatuus 9 hours ago#1 right
#2 half right
and not wear masks
You apparently missed the whole point of this article: masks don't work .
KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago3. People don't get enough vitamin D in the winter. Supplementing with 5K UI of D will fend off any virus...
Solio 11 hours agoCold symptoms ARE Vitamin D deficiency symptoms. There is no vaccine for a vitamin deficiency. We still have to eat a healthy diet.
Amel 14 hours ago (Edited)Relying on the bs that we have been fed for 75 years makes the garden fertile for total idiocy.
FightClubPanties 13 hours agoMy experience is transmission is primarily occurring in high traffic indoor spaces.
I wore a 3M industrial grade respirator inside a bulk food store last week stocking up for the apocalypse and within hours my eyes were feeling infected, again. Being my second exposure to covid, I know how my symptoms manifest. It did not get into my lungs because I used a respirator, not a mask. I treated myself with a sinus rinse 10 drops betadine (Iodine) per 1 cup water as per my ENT's direction for ANY sinus infection that night. The next 24 hours were pretty rough but after that I was fine,
If you have to line up to get inside a building in a dense urban area, use a respirator and goggles inside. Masks are a joke, respirators work. Ebay has lots of respirators for sale, they are hard to find locally.
adr 13 hours agoAnd those respirators, i.e. N95 cannot be reused.
Stranded Observer 13 hours agoSure buddy. You might want to pull Fauchi's rod out of your mouth.
If the virus was floating in the air, everyone on Earth would have been infected 100 times over by June.
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoGreat story. You are a lucky man to have cheated death like that. It must have been terrifying
skizex 14 hours ago (Edited)You're "stocking up for the apocalypse" that people like YOU created by trembling in fear for 10 months and counting over sniffles?
"It did not get into my lungs because I used a respirator, not a mask. "
Are you sure it's not because you weren't wearing panties that day, because of your GRINDR date?
Overpowered By Funk 14 hours agoNMD Colleen Huber study of studies:
https://www.primarydoctor.org/masks-not-effect ive or safe
-OMG - DeBlasio clip on FOX (sound off because of those gdamned "you can catch covid ...here'" PSAs))
urging faith leaders to push the vax! 'Spread the word!" J.C.!
Crush the cube 14 hours agoWhy don't we just do what the Chinese did? It seems to have worked. Whatever it was they did.
Mrgior31513 14 hours agoPointed an accusatory finger at the weapon wielder and threatened to expose.
JuliaS 13 hours agoMake tests read negative most likely.
waterwell 1 hour agoChinese men in biosuits sprayed mystery syrup everywhere and then they were confident the virus was gone. Safe to assume that if the lab worked on the virus, they also knew what the antidote was.
Totin 3 hours agoWhy is it that the entire continent of Africa appears to have been able to avoid the high rates of cases and deaths caused by the Covid-19 virus.
somedude 3 hours ago (Edited)Why is it that with all the Brown Shirt enforcement in Kalifornia that they are suffering the worst?
RIGHTPOWER 3 hours agoMaybe the Chinese put something in those made in China masks.
Americans buying masks from the Chinese is like **** buying masks from the Nazi.
thimbus_xyz 4 hours ago (Edited)as long as housing prices keep crashing all is well
SweetDoug 3 hours agoSo let me make sure I understand this correctly.....
South Korea, a country with over 5x the population density of the US , has 1,100 new cases per day (or .002% of population ).
The US has 280,000 new cases (or .085% of population ), that's 43x the rate of South Koriea
And the conclusion of this idiot is masks don't work.....hmm interesting. I see the republican strategy of dumbing down our education is getting the desired results.
Still, these cases being recorded now are only a sliver of those detected daily in the U.S. and Europe. There, daily new case counts of COVID-19 are still in the tens of thousands... so keep wearing your masks!!!
🔥 🔥 🔥!!!!
Uh no, in the US we count new cases in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
USA USA USA BITCHES.
thimbus_xyz 3 hours ago'
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You just watch the spread/infection rate increase. Learn a bit aboutr infection spreads. Think oil on water and the increasing size of the diameter/area.
Give it a few months...
Everyone is gonna get this, sooner or later schmuck.
You stay in your basement.
OJO
V-VGoldbugger 4 hours agoThat's a lot of words to say nothing.
What exactly did I get incorrect? That would be nothing. Facts is tough that way. LOL.
Zerohair PREMIUM 4 hours ago" The disproportionately higher rates of COVID deaths among American Indians and Alaska Natives, 7 for example, are due to higher rates of obesity, diabetes, asthma and heart disease than among more privileged U.S. communities."
Research 8 suggests even mild obesity can influence COVID-19 severity, raising the risk of respiratory failure by 2.5 times and the risk of needing intensive care by nearly five times. Inflammation triggered by obesity is also thought to be responsible for the threefold greater risk of pulmonary embolism (blood clots in the lungs) seen in obese COVID-19 patients. 9,10
Certain groups -- particularly the elderly and those with darker skin -- are also far more prone to the illness due to the fact that they're also at highest risk for vitamin D deficiency .
Grand Solar Minimum 4 hours agoIt's been said before, Dumbo's feather.
StephenHopkins 4 hours agoAlice-the-dog 6 hours agoIt's a Chinese bioweapon. Military tribunals and GITMO for TRAITORS.
flat earth guy 6 hours agoAs if there was a test for COVID that was remotely reliable. Both exhibit an abundance of false positives. THE CASES THE CASES THE CASES, and deaths for that matter, are adjustable to fit the needs of any tyrant that has any control over the number of tests administered. Need more control of your subjects? More tests, more cases, more deaths. Want to make your vaxx look good, or the unelected POTUS look good? Reduce testing, fewer cases and deaths.
TRM 7 hours agoViruses are not alive, they are not contagious. Its a detox of the body.
Masks are stupid to use for viruses.
Terrain theory was allways right germ theory is wrong
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https://youtu.be/_Mxa3bCprWcnanook007 11 hours agoI don't even know of I believe this.
KirkPatrickN 7 hours agoThis is what happens when african monkeys are put in charge of anything.........failure !
halcyon 11 hours agoDon't talk about monkeys that way!
Monkeys don't require $8800 per year on average in welfare to survive in the US.
metaforge 10 hours agoR€TARDS! Stop looking at case counts, they mean nothing.
Number of positive tests in SK is still not on the level of wave1 and has started to shrink. So much for horrible wave3, even by their own statistics.
Slapper 11 hours ago remove linkYup, the Thanksgiving Superspreader Doom was a nothing burger, just like the Trump rally superspreader doom. They are LIARS! And the ones at the top... traitors.
Nona Yobiznes 12 hours ago (Edited)In WW1 and WW2 the same people marched you off to a war...
KirkPatrickN 8 hours agoArgentina has worn masks since April or even March. Their cases didn't stop rising. In fact they rose exponentially until a few weeks ago, which coincided with late spring for them. Seasonality overrides all other factors.
Obesity doubles Covid risks. Should we mandate diets? I know it's inconvenient, but suck it up, people. It's to save lives.
Dec 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
The lockdowns are based on surging "cases" which are based on positive PCR test results.
However, what exactly is a positive PCR test result? What does it mean? As Dr. Tommy Megremis summarized recently :
If you are generally aware, the PCR test is used to amplify small amount of genetic material so as to recognize patterns of DNA by "cycling." (Also, for RNA virus, the RNA is converted to DNA in order to be detected, it's just the way the test works) This is how we have been able to recognize the genomes in Egyptian mummies and Wooly Mammoths. It works because if you amplify and cycle enough times to "grow" legitimate DNA fragments, you get something with with a fair amount of specificity. W hat is becoming more and more apparent is that the PCR test was not designed as a diagnostic tool for infection, and really cannot function as one without having a huge amount of false positives, period.
When it comes to COVID, the presence of viral particles picked up by the PCR technique does not and has not been quantitatively linked to an active "symptomatic" infection. It simply cannot be so, because infection threshold as a result of viral load is different for each patient. It turns out, if you "cycle" over around 25 times, the false positivity of COVID infection starts getting very high.
I and others have explained in blogs how people can be exposed to virus, and mount a simple innate immune response and never know any differently. When you test these people with very low viral loads, who are not sick, you can find the viral RNA code that is used to "diagnose" if you cycle enough times. The last I read, Labcorp cycles at least 40 times to detect viral genome fragments. The PCR test was never intended for diagnosis of infection but as a qualitative test for presence of parts of a virus genome. I know there has been some confusion circulating the net about what the inventor Kary Mullis had said about that. But we walk daily with people who have any number of parts of killer virus or bacterial genomes which one could pick up with a PCR test if one had the specific test for it. Would we claim that that individual was an infected patient? No!
So given all that, PeakProsperity's Chris Martenson explains below , in great details, the answer to the most important question you should ask if you or a loved one gets a positive PCR test result .
"What's the Cycle Threshold (CT) value for that test?"
Sounds wonky but it's actually really important to understand. A low CT value means someone is loaded with virus. A high value, oppositely, means less of a viral load.
Beyond a certain level the load is insufficient to either infect someone else or be of any clinical or epidemiological relevance whatsoever.
The problem? Governments all over the country and world are basing their decisions on CT values that are very high. Too high.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/eWqNl4UUlH0
https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890
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Links:WHO PCR 47 (!) Cycles
CT over 35 is non-infectious
Cycle Thresholds Too Damn High
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
Corman Drosten retraction request
https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/
Bad Testing Video Sept 1
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GenuineAmerican 3 hours agoJon Rappoport (excellent blog) nails it in some of his recent posts.
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"July 16, 2020, podcast, 'This Week in Virology': Tony Fauci makes a point of saying the PCR Covid test is useless and misleading when the test is run at '35 cycles or higher.' A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed.
"Here, in techno-speak, is an excerpt from Fauci's key quote: ' If you get [perform the test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more the chances of it being replication-competent [aka accurate] are miniscule you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle even 36 '
"Too many cycles, and the test will turn up all sorts of irrelevant material that will be wrongly interpreted as relevant.
"That's called a false positive.
"What Fauci failed to say on the video is: the FDA, which authorizes the test for public use, recommends the test should be run up to 40 cycles. Not 35.
"Therefore, all labs in the US that follow the FDA guideline are knowingly or unknowingly participating in fraud. Fraud on a monstrous level, because millions of Americans are being told they are infected with the virus on the basis of a false positive result, and
"The total number of Covid cases in America -- which is based on the test -- is a gross falsity.
"The lockdowns and other restraining measures are based on these fraudulent case numbers.
play_arrowBaNNeD oN THe RuN 7 hours agoFauci has lied again the PCR maximum cycle for a accurate test results is 25 NOT 35. PCR is run, or should be run at 21-25 cycles everything else will give a false positive. Had a friend in Scottsdale MAYO. I had to go to this god-forsaken place to get him out. They were running the PCR at 42 cycles to keep him in the hospital because he had very, very good UNION insurance!! The health industries are all crooks, lying to people to get more money being paid to the orgainizations by the feds.
NatsarimAmericanoLion 6 hours agoIQ tests were always seriously flawed, just like the PCR test
https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39
It does not measure creative or lateral thinking ability at all.
I had scores that put me in the top 0.5% but I had no illusion that made me anything more than a good test taker.
choctaw charley 5 hours ago remove linkU.S TOTAL DEATHS
2015: 2,602,000
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,649,000
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,909,000
According to usalivestats(dot)com, there are 2,486,700 so far this year. There could be a lag in reports, but I doubt enough to fulfill their doomsday claims. The CDC still admits only 6% of these "COVID" are without 2 or more comorbidities, so that's about 25,000 or so. This is a mild flu season. Here are the recent flu numbers:
FLU DEATHS 2010's
2010: 36,656
2011: 12,447
2012: 42,570
2013: 37,930
2014: 51,376
2015: 22,705
2016: 38,230
2017: 61,099
2018: 34,157flyonmywall 9 hours agoso what's the purpose behind the bogus plandemic. In order to institute a one world plantation several things have to happen. Foremost is the sense of "nationhood". a nation can be thought of as modeled on the family unit. We look similar, we share religious beliefs, economic and political views and we have a common history which we take pride in. We trust rely on and help another. If you have half a brain you don't need me to describe how all these are under attack. So how does the plandemic play into this? Yesterday you neighbor was your neighbor. Today he is behind a mask because the government tells you that he is a threat to you and your family and you to his! The plandemic was used to to hugely expand the mail-in ballot fraud further driving in the wedge suspicion. Then there is this: when you get your covid test there will be a permanent file created with your name on it. It will contain your genetic code and the test result. this will become the social register that is all over Europe. Get a traffic ticket; late in making a payment; engage in disapproved political activity as I am doing at this moment? All these will find their way into your file and will in the future determine the rate you pay on your home mortgage whether you can be employed in a government job, what you have to endure to board a commercial aircraft etc. There is also a great likelihood that contained in the vaccine will be a tracking component. Consider also population segment most vulnerable to covid: older retired people drawing on an already bankrupt social security ponzi scheme. Hitler referred to these as "Useless Eaters". He had a system in place to rid society of these. Later these faciliries were expanded to include the Jewish population.
Zero-Hegemon 4 hours agoI've done lots of PCR in my life. If you have to do over 35 cycles to detect or amplify something, you're probably barking up the wrong tree or there is something wrong with your assay.
Once you ramp up the cycles to past 35-40 cycles, you're just amplifying non-specific competing amplification products, of which there are always some.
You could have the best designed primers in the world, there is always some random **** that happens to get amplified at high cycle counts.
KimAsa 9 hours ago (Edited)False positives are beneficial for obtaining COVID money and creating hysteria.
Ride_the_kali_yuga 9 hours agothese psychopaths have redesignated the normal course of annual deaths from heart disease, and other common ailments that old people die from, to Covid 19, to create the illusion of a deadly pandemic. they claim to have isolated this virus out of one side of their mouth, out the the other side they claim it has mutated (how many times?) so can't produce proof that this virus even exists. and out of their ******* they claim to have developed a vaccine?
this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public for free moral agency prevention.
africoman 9 hours agoCovid "tests" are an efficient way to feed the false pandemic narrative with nonsensical numbers of "contaminations". Masks are a mark of submission.
Schooey 6 hours agoRe-posting someone's comment from this article Here
- If the masks work -- Why the six feet?
- If the six feet works -- Why the masks?
- If both of the above work -- Why the lockdowns?
- If all three of the above work -- Why the vaccine?
- If the vaccine is safe -- Why protect it with a no liability clause?
- If the vaccine is safe---Why not test it on animals first before using it on humans?
- If SARS-CoV-2 exists -- Why has it never been isolated?
- If SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated -- How can an effective vaccine be developed?
- If the RT-PCR test works -- Why so many false positives?
- If Kary Mullis, the inventor of the RT-PCR test who conveniently died in August 2019, says his test shouldn't be used to diagnose infectious diseases -- Why use it to detect SARS-CoV-2?
- If there is an epidemic---Why so many empty hospitals?
- If large numbers of people are dying from SARS-CoV-2---Why so many fake causes of death on death certificates?
- If SARS-CoV-2 exists -- Why give doctors financial incentives to diagnose SARS-CoV-2?
- If the official COVID-19 narrative is defensible -- Why censor people who dispute this narrative?
by John Wear, (retired) lawyer, accountant, and author.
Excellent points, now let's threw a monkey wrench in it to the Operation Warp Speed play_arrow
KimAsa 9 hours ago (Edited)Its all BS
Ms No 8 hours agothese psychopaths have redesignated the normal course of annual deaths from heart disease, and other common ailments that old people die from, to Covid 19, to create the illusion of a deadly pandemic. they claim to have isolated this virus out of one side of their mouth, out the the other side they claim it has mutated (how many times?) so can't produce proof that this virus even exists. and out of their ******* they claim to have developed a vaccine?
this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public for free moral agency prevention.
smacker 8 hours agoThey actually murdered people with the lockdown too though. Knowingly and premeditated...certainly some of those were also declared covid.
kellys_eye 9 hours ago" this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public "
Correct.
That has become clear. What we are only now slowing learning is what the sinister motive is.
Harry Tools 5 hours agoIs the test for Covid or Covid-19. Can it tell the difference? The 'normal' flu and influenza are both corona viruses and this is the 'high season' for such cases in the Northern hemisphere.
Strangely (or not) the incidence of actual flu and influenza are suspiciously MUCH lower than they should be.
Ergo - tests that prove 'positive' for Covid are likely either false OR reporting on the flu/influenza.
The LIES keep mounting and mounting.
RedNeckMother 3 hours agothere is no pandemic
MoreFreedom 5 hours ago remove linkI will add another: FDA: 40 recommendation for testing
And let's not forget the comments by Fauci that if they're testing at 35 they're going to get a lot of false positives.
There's an attorney in Ohio who has filed a FOI to obtain all the ct levels used by the labs testing in Ohio. It will be very interesting once that is revealed - I'm sure our governor already knows the answer. If I recall, the NYT itself did an article on this very topic awhile back and estimated that 90% of the positive results in CT and NY were bogus. And going from 40 to 35 I believe reduces positives by 63%.
We're being played.
SRV 7 hours agoDr. Martenson's videos are very good. He's clear.
As for "the science" and scientists, we all make mistakes. If we didn't make mistakes, we wouldn't have scientists pointing out other scientist's mistakes. But it's not a question of whose science is correct, it's that science is no excuse for taking away peoples' liberty.
smacker 9 hours agoThe inventor of the test (Dr Kary Mullis) was very outspoken that it was NOT developed for human virus confirmation...he died of cancer just weeks before the first Covid cases (hmmmm).
The test procedure was developed as a screening tool in lab research, and he won a Nobel Prize for it!It's in your face proof of the scam we're all being subjected to that almost no one ever questioned (brilliant move really)... ONE cycle above 35 (each cycle doubles the amplification) will explode the the false positives.
And... if you have no symptoms you DO NOT have the virus (remember how much play the "asymptomatic" BS story got early on... another psyop). Notice how none of the athletes never get sick and are back in two weeks... yet it's never questioned by a soul paid to look the other way!
smacker 7 hours ago remove link" What is becoming more and more apparent is that the PCR test was not designed
as a diagnostic tool for infection, and really cannot function as one without having
a huge amount of false positives, period. "This is not knew and didn't need to become "more and more apparent".
The inventor of the PCR test Kary Mullis is on video record stating it. Sadly his expert
knowledge has been wilfully ignored by the political elites and countless talking heads
and "experts" because it doesn't suit them and didn't fit their agenda.It's time to prepare the gallows and stock up with rope.
smacker 7 hours ago remove linkThe PCR test is used precisely because it can be manipulated to produce as many "cases" as wanted.
Just turn the dial up on "amplification cycles" and hey presto, you get as many positives as you want.
The cases are not genuine cases but simply PCR positive tests, but are reported as "cases" and then
"infections" by MSM who are "In On It".The idea is "FEAR Management" which allows draconian CovID rules like lockdowns and tiers and
social distancing to be introduced which accustoms people to being managed and controlled.It then ramps up demand for vaccines which is the ultimate objective. Initially (or soon after), the
vaccines will contain nano-technology - dust-chips - which will be used for surveillance and control.
Some say they will also contain ingredients to render people infertile (ie population control).We are seeing in plain sight the biggest coup ever against mankind.
It must be stopped.
The PCR test is used precisely because it can be manipulated to produce as many "cases" as wanted.
Just turn the dial up on "amplification cycles" and hey presto, you get as many positives as you want.
The cases are not genuine cases but simply PCR positive tests, but are reported as "cases" and then
"infections" by MSM who are "In On It".The idea is "FEAR Management" which allows draconian CovID rules like lockdowns and tiers and
social distancing to be introduced which accustoms people to being managed and controlled.It then ramps up demand for vaccines which is the ultimate objective. Initially (or soon after), the
vaccines will contain nano-technology - dust-chips - which will be used for surveillance and control.
Some say they will also contain ingredients to render people infertile (ie population control).We are seeing in plain sight the biggest coup ever against mankind.
It must be stopped.
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Fake news and fake awards.
John Tucker , 2 days agoJan Fogle , 2 days agoCuomo cut funding to Hospitals during first wave
considering cuomo was responsible for spreading the virus exponentially in the early days, he probably has had more influence on all of our lives than the others
Pookie Wookie , 2 days agoZeljko Dakic , 53 minutes agoObama got a Nobel Peace Prize and dropped more bombs than any other President in history and took us from 3 to 7 wars.
Story about Fauci, at least at the time was that it was so hospitals wouldn't be liable for deaths among medical staff. But I think it was completely bad what both Cuomo and Fauci
Kathleen McCormick , 1 day agoFryeKitFox , 2 days agoFauci is complicit and not to be trusted. He's worse than Cuomo.
Techloid Tech , 2 days ago (edited)Time is inconsequential. Neoliberal rag.
Still can't believe people defend Fauci. Then again people defend Obama and Bush...
John Sutherland , 18 hours agoDr. Fauci was the trusted expert who intentionally lied to the American people and made things far worse. Cuomo is directly responsible for why New York's response to the virus was so bad and cost many lives. Bullshit award.
airmark02 , 2 days agoFake Media Fake Heros Fake Awards
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Micron , Nov 17 2020 11:47 utc | 102
This whole coronavirus thingy is becoming ridiculous. I don't think it's a complete fake ; yes, there is coronavirus named COVID-19, yes it is highly contagious, yes it's a health hazard.
But to sum it up, we have here a new coronavirus which is slightly more dangerous than the flu, which kills practically only very old people with comorbidities, with 99,98% chances (ok, 99,95% if you like) of surviving it. given these odds, I'll pass on the vaccine, thank you.
From the beginning, the whole treatment of this thing stank to high heaven. I'm sorry, but the only meaningful explanation I can give is this one : big pharma and its various shills (politicians or doctors) recognized the opportunity such a virus would mean ; they then set out to systematically downplay or kill any possibility of cheap and effective treatments, and cleverly directed the firehose of dollars which was poured onto the laboratories developing a vaccine.
Some facts :
- in France, we had two large-scale studies, Discovery and Hycovid, which were started (very reluctantly) and were pratically forced to include HCQ+AZ in their panel.
- In the weekend following publication of the fraudulent Lancet newspaper, our health minister ordered a full stop.
- Since then, months have gone by; NOT ONE JOURNALIST has either 1) investigated who were the accomplices of the Lancet fraud 2) questioned why all national and international authorities reacted in lockstep 3) and most importantly WHY THE DECISIONS TO STOP THE STUDIES WERE NOT REVERSED following the Lancet's retractation.
-In October, we learn that the EU Commission gave a cool 1 billion to buy remdesivir. ONE WEEK before the WHO study concluding on the ineffectiviness of remdesivir came out.I'm sorry, but this is becoming a little too much. One coincidence OK, but here we are talking about a string of improbable events, with NO ONE analyzing with a cool head what happened or reversing decisions that were taken based on obvious frauds.
Three weeks ago, our president solemnly declared that our OR would be saturated in mid-November with 9000 people under respiratory assistance, no matter what we do. Well here were are, and the tally is 4.800. Not a good situation, but still only half ; and with nobody pointing out that every winter, our OR are saturated anyway due to the flu and the influenza.
I think we should all grow up and do a more level-headed analysis of the pros and cons. The most ridiculous thing perhaps is to see all those politicos sanctimoniously declare the sanctity of life ; in a world where you can abort babies at your convenience, practices eugenics, and where euthanasy is aggressively pushed into the mainstream, this is perhaps the most hypocritical bullshit I have ever heard.
DG , Nov 17 2020 12:15 utc | 104
Avid Lurker , Nov 17 2020 13:53 utc | 109Fauci was promoting AZT as a safe cure for AIDS in the 90's. AZT was killing people. I lost many dear friends from AZT.
Fauci is a fraud.
gm , Nov 17 2020 14:44 utc | 116@ dave at 115:
False Positive Covid Tests Will Extend Unjustified Lockdowns, Fauci Admits 'Miniscule' Accuracy
Hausmeister , Nov 17 2020 15:06 utc | 119@Posted by: Avid Lurker | Nov 17 2020 13:53 utc | 117
Meh...Fauci is a political creature who has talked on both sides of his mouth on many $ubject$, and goes with the (money)flow as long as he can get away with it without reducing his credibility too much.
I wonder if Fauci is *still* singing the praises of Gilead's remdesivir, that $3K per treatment apparent snake oil, according to critics:
Dr. Eric Topol, vice president for research at Scripps Research sez:
https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1319395937018470400?lang=en
and this,
and this:
Nevertheless the $3K per shot remdesivir just got *full* FDA approval, no doubt thanks in large part to High Priest Fauci's blessings and hosannas.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/22/fda-approves-remdesivir-coronavirus-431336
Most likely a game changer:
Portugiese court rule against PCR-test
Sorry, guys, this is a link to one of the best real-left Corona blogs, but in German language. In Portugal a court decided that a PCR-test cannot be accepted as a proof of a viral infection. Now think about its consequences!
Nov 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
The Great Revenge - How Tony Fauci F*cked Donald Trump Liberty Blogger , Nov 16 2020 20:12 utc | 2
In January 2017 the CIA claimed that Russia had kompromat on Trump. Trump shot back at the CIA. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer then warned the incoming president:
"You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday to get back at you," Schumer, a New York Democrat, told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this."As the years after the warning passed by it proved to have been valid. The CIA 'whistle blowers' put a great effort into sabotaging Trump's presidency. But they were largely unsuccessful.
The CIA failed to sabotaged Trump's reelection. It was health community, including parts of Trump's administration, which did that.
Trump had especially angered Dr. Fauci, the well known infectious-disease expert and member of the government's coronavirus taskforce. Fauci's advise had been ignored and efforts were made to hold him back from making public pronouncements.
On November 1, two days before the election, Fauci gave a widely distributed interview to the Washington Post :
President Trump's repeated assertions the United States is "rounding the turn" on the novel coronavirus have increasingly alarmed the government's top health experts, who say the country is heading into a long and potentially deadly winter with an unprepared government unwilling to make tough choices."We're in for a whole lot of hurt. It's not a good situation," Anthony S. Fauci, the country's leading infectious-disease expert, said in a wide-ranging interview late Friday. "All the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter season, with people congregating at home indoors. You could not possibly be positioned more poorly."
Fauci's interview was not the first intervention he made. In October two leading vaccine companies were ready to announce the success of their vaccine trials. But with at least the knowledge of Fauci and the Federal Drug Administration both companies deviated from their clinical protocols to intentionally move their success announcement to a date after the election.
During the summer Trump had been hopeful that a vaccine against the Covid-19 disease could be announced before the election. It would have been proof that his strategy to (not) fight the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic had at least one success. The announcement of a vaccine was part of President Trump's planned 'October surprises' to win the election.
Trump's summer hope that a vaccine success could be announced during October was not unreasonable. Two important vaccines candidate, one from Pfizer with BioNTech and one from Moderna, had been successful tested in their first phases and were ready launch their large phase 3 trials.
In a phase 3 vaccine trial several ten thousand people are put into two groups. The people in one group receive the vaccine, the people in the other one a placebo. One then has to wait and see how many people will get the disease. At certain points a statistical team will look at those cases and check how many occurred in each group. The differences of the number of people in each group who catch the disease is a scale for the vaccines efficacy. For a known group size one can estimate in advance after how many disease cases determinations should be made to show statistical significance.
Pfizer had published its clinical protocol for the phase 3 trial which foresaw four points of interim analyses (IA) during which it would become clear how well the vaccine was working:
During Phase 2/3, 4 IAs are planned and will be performed by an unblinded statistical team after accrual of 32, 62, 92, and 120 cases. At each IA:
- [Vaccine efficacy] for the first primary objective will be evaluated. Overwhelming efficacy will be declared if the first primary study objective is met. The criteria for success at an interim analysis are based on the posterior probability (ie,P[VE >30%|data]) at the current number of cases. Overwhelming efficacy will be declared if the posterior probability is higher than the success threshold. The success threshold for each interim analysis will be calibrated to protect overall type I error at 2.5%. Additional details about the success threshold or boundary calculation at each interim analysis will be provided in the SAP.
The time plan, on which Trump was certainly briefed, foresaw that the first interim analysis would likely occur in late September or early October.
However Pfizer did not publish any results when the first two interim analysis points were met. On November 9, after the election, Pfizer announced very positive results at the third interim analysis point:
Pfizer and partner BioNTech said Monday that their vaccine against Covid-19 was strongly effective, exceeding expectations with results that are likely to be met with cautious excitement -- and relief -- in the face of the global pandemic.The vaccine is the first to be tested in the United States to generate late-stage data. The companies said an early analysis of the results showed that individuals who received two injections of the vaccine three weeks apart experienced more than 90% fewer cases of symptomatic Covid-19 than those who received a placebo.
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The story of how the data have been analyzed seems to include no small amount of drama.
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The first analysis was to occur after 32 volunteers -- both those who received the vaccine and those on placebo -- had contracted Covid-19. If fewer than six volunteers in the group who received the vaccine had developed Covid-19, the companies would make an announcement that the vaccine appeared to be effective. The study would continue until at least 164 cases of Covid-19 -- individuals with at least one symptom and a positive test result -- had been reported.However, the announcement at the two first interim analysis points was never made.
[William Gruber, Pfizer's senior vice president of vaccine clinical research and development,] said that Pfizer and BioNTech had decided in late October that they wanted to drop the 32-case interim analysis . At that time, the companies decided to stop having their lab confirm cases of Covid-19 in the study , instead leaving samples in storage. The FDA was aware of this decision. Discussions between the agency and the companies concluded, and testing began this past Wednesday. When the samples were tested, there were 94 cases of Covid in the trial.This means that the statistical strength of the result is likely far stronger than was initially expected. It also means that if Pfizer had held to the original plan, the data would likely have been available in October, as its CEO, Albert Bourla, had initially predicted.
In October Pfizer already knew from its first interim analysis that its vaccine was successful. But it intentionally held back on the announcement of its success. The FDA knew of this!
Today Moderna announced the success of its Covid-19 vaccine. This is a vaccine in which Dr. Fauci's organization is directly involved in. It seems that Moderna had, like Pfizer, held back its very positive results until after the election:
The drugmaker Moderna announced on Monday that its coronavirus vaccine was 94.5 percent effective, based on an early look at the results from its large, continuing study.Researchers said the results were better than they had dared to imagine.
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Moderna, based in Cambridge, Mass., developed its vaccine in collaboration with researchers from the Vaccine Research Center, part of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director of the institute, said in an interview: ...
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Moderna had planned a first interim analysis of its trial data when the number of Covid-19 cases among participants reached 53. But the recent surge in cases drove the number to 95 , and it is likely to speed completion of the study.Moderna, like Pfizer, skipped the announcement of the results at the first interim analysis point in its clinical protocol.
The FDA and Dr. Fauci were involved in Pfizer's as well as the Moderna's decision to deviate from their clinical protocols. Any change in these protocols must get the FDA's approval. If the companies had not changed their plans the announcement of the good efficacy of both vaccines' would have come before the election.
Trump's well planed vaccine 'October surprise' was sabotaged by two pharmaceutical companies with at least the approval of Dr. Fauci and the FDA.
This might well have cost him his reelection.
It was the health community that really had 'six ways from Sunday' to get back at Trump.
Posted by b on November 16, 2020 at 19:54 UTC | Permalink
How many ways did the vultures steal the US election?
The Big Guy will ensure Americans continue to pay twice as much for pharmaceuticals. His 10% is doubled too, after all.
norecovery , Nov 16 2020 20:16 utc | 3
lysias , Nov 16 2020 20:20 utc | 4The Corporate State envelopes the administrators of the MSM, Medical and Academic Institutions, and State and Local Governments, in order to create and enforce a largely fictitious health emergency -- the latest in a series of Disaster Capitalist scenarios designed to rob us blind.
Hadn't Trump talked about limiting the prices that pharma companies can charge?
Nov 16, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca
By World Travel & Tourism Council Global Research, November 13, 2020 World Travel & Tourism Council 11 November 2020 Region: USA
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A staggering 9.2 million jobs could be lost in the U.S. Travel & Tourism sector in 2020 if barriers to global travel remain in place, the World Travel & Tourism Council (WTTC) revealed.
The new figure comes from WTTC's latest economic modelling, which looks at the punishing impact of COVID-19 and travel restrictions on the Travel & Tourism sector.
According to the latest data, 7.2 million jobs in the U.S. have been impacted. If there is no immediate alleviation of restrictions on international travel, as many as 9.2 million jobs – more than half of all jobs supported by the sector in the U.S. in 2019 – would be lost.
WTTC has identified the four top priorities which should be addressed, including the adoption of a comprehensive and cost-effective testing regime at departure to avoid transmission, the re-opening of key 'air corridors' such as between New York and London, and international coordination.
The challenge of restoring safe travels in the new normal is one of the biggest issues facing the U.S. as it grapples with a depressed economy devastated by the COVID-19 pandemic, which has hit the Travel & Tourism sector particularly hard.
The WTTC Economic Impact Report for 2019 revealed that Travel & Tourism contributed $1.84 trillion to the U.S. economy and was responsible for more than one in 10 (10.7%) American jobs.
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ADKC , Nov 13 2020 0:48 utc | 92
"Surgeons have been using surgical masks since their introduction in 1897. It has for some years been customary for surgeons and nurses to wear surgical masks in the operating theatre and to change masks part of the way through any procedure lasting more than a few hours.
"The dangers associated with mask wearing were assessed by five doctors and published in the journal Neurocirugia in 2008.
"Although it is customary for operating theatres to be fitted with air conditioning systems, the writers of the article, entitled, Preliminary Report on Surgical Mask induced Deoxygenation During Major Surgery, pointed out that it is known that heat and moisture are trapped beneath surgical masks and concluded that 'it seems reasonable that some of the exhaled carbon dioxide may also be trapped beneath them, inducing a decrease in blood oxygenation'.
"A total of 53 surgeons, of both sexes, all employed at university hospitals and aged between 24 and 54 years of age were tested. All were non-smokers and none had any chronic lung disease. The test involved pulse oximetry before and after the course of an operation. The study showed that the longer a mask was worn the greater the fall in blood oxygen levels. This may lead to the individual passing out and it may also affect natural immunity – thereby increasing the risk of infection.
"The masks used were disposable, sterile, one-way surgical paper masks. To eliminate the effect of dehydration over a several hour surgical operation, the surgeons were allowed after every hour to drink water through a straw.
"The authors of the paper concluded that, 'When the values for oxygen saturation of haemoglobin were compared, there were statistically significant differences only between preoperational and post operational values. As the duration of the operation increases, oxygen saturation of haemoglobin decreases significantly."
From "Proof That Face Masks Do More Harm Than Good" by Dr Vernon Coleman (which was published on "Smashwords" but was suddenly removed the book in an gratuitous act of censorship even though the book was entirely factual)
Nov 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Bemildred , Nov 1 2020 20:25 utc | 29
Fauci bets on Biden:
Nov 01, 2020 | www.rt.com
Get short URL Anthony Fauci is shown testifying in a US Senate hearing in September. © Reuters 18 Follow RT on Anthony Fauci used his last Friday night before the election to give an interview to the Washington Post in which he praised Joe Biden's attitude toward the Covid-19 pandemic and criticized President Donald Trump's.Intentionally or otherwise, Fauci put his thumb on the electoral scale by painting a doomsday picture of the nation's Covid-19 outlook and suggesting the Democrat candidate is more focused on the pandemic than is the Republican incumbent. Asked about differences between the two on the virus issue, Fauci praised Biden for "taking it seriously from a public-health perspective," and said Trump looks at it from the standpoint of "the economy and reopening the country," according to the Post, which published its article Saturday evening.
ALSO ON RT.COM Trump failed to fight and expose the establishment's Covid narrative – and now it may cost him re-electionFauci, who is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, echoed Biden's predictions of a "dark winter," saying, "We're in for a whole lot of hurt. All the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter season, with people congregating at home indoors. You could not possibly be positioned more poorly."
The doctor didn't specifically attribute his gloomy assessment to Trump's policies, but Biden has made the virus outbreak the centerpiece of his campaign, repeatedly blaming the president for the nation's Covid-19 death toll, which stands at more than 230,000.
ALSO ON RT.COM 'Bad arm!' Trump blasts 'disaster' Fauci in campaign call, slams doctor's baseball pitchingFauci complained to the Post that Trump is increasingly leaning on medical adviser Scott Atlas for advice on the pandemic. "I have real problems with that guy," Fauci said. "He's a smart guy who's talking about things that I believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in. He keeps talking about things that, when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense."
Fauci said in April that Trump had immediately backed all the Covid-19 mitigation recommendations made to him by US public health officials, including Fauci himself. In September, he said the president had taken the outbreak very seriously from the beginning.
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White House spokesman Judd Deere blasted Fauci for "choosing three days before an election to play politics," after previously praising Trump's actions.
"As a member of the (White House coronavirus) task force, Dr. Fauci has a duty to express concerns or push for a change in strategy, but he's not done that, instead choosing to criticize the president in the media and make his political leanings known by praising the president's opponent – exactly what the American people have come to expect from the swamp," Deere told the Post.
Fauci said in February that the risk of coronavirus in the US was "relatively low," and told CBS's 60 Minutes program in March that "people should not be walking around with masks." By October, he was voicing support for a national mask mandate.
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Atlas contended in an interview with RT's Going Underground show that Covid-19 lockdowns have been an "epic failure" and are "killing people" without curbing the spread of the virus.
"The public-health leadership have failed egregiously, and they're killing people with their fear-inducing shutdown policies," Trump's coronavirus adviser said.
Investigative journalist Jordan Schachtel took to Twitter to criticize Fauci for attacking Atlas while offering "zero evidence, data, etc," calling the comments "a little character-assassination attempt by the tiny totalitarian."
Tweet See new Tweets Tweet Jordan Schachtel @JordanSchachtel · 19h Fauci has complete breakdown, resorts to crying to the media. Notice his little rant (loaded with extreme amounts of professional jealousy) has zero evidence, data, etc. A little character assassination attempt by the tiny totalitarian. Quote Tweet Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT · 21h "I have real problems with that guy," Fauci said of Atlas. "He's a smart guy who's talking about things that I believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in...when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense." https:// washingtonpost.com/politics/fauci -covid-winter-forecast/2020/10/31/e3970eb0-1b8b-11eb-bb35-2dcfdab0a345_story.html 18
Oct 25, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com
One of the biggest questions in the world right now is whether the use of masks is beneficial in preventing contracting the China coronavirus. A study attempted to do just that but publishers will not take it on and are preventing it from being published. A large mask study out of Denmark is complete but being delayed in publishing. Although the size of the study and the study's design are well within the parameters of a solid study, publishers will not take it on:
The purpose of the study was once and for all to try to clarify the extent to which the use of masks in public space provides protection against the corona infection.
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One of the authors of the study is upset the study has not been published for peer review. The world needs to know the results of the study and should be provided a chance to challenge it and determine its viability:
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Alex Berenson shared that the study should be released – we need to know if wearing masks is harmful:
We can guess right now why the study is not being published – because masks don't work in preventing the spread of the China coronavirus and likely are harmful to your health.
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Oct 19, 2020 | www.rt.com
After Dr. Anthony Fauci gave an interview in which he claimed the White House was controlling his media appearances, the president lashed out at him, even taking to comparing how each of them throws a baseball."Dr.Tony Fauci says we don't allow him to do television, and yet I saw him last night on @60Minutes," Trump tweeted on Monday, referencing the interview where Fauci made his claims about being limited in who he can talk to.
"He seems to get more airtime than anybody since the late, great, Bob Hope," the president added, referencing the late comedian known for his near-constant rotation on television while he was alive.
ALSO ON RT.COM New York Governor Cuomo goes 'full anti-vaxxer' on Covid-19 vaccine, says people should be 'very skeptical'Trump said he wants Fauci to "make better decisions" and claimed the original strategy to defeat the pandemic suggested by Fauci was "no masks & let China in."
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In the campaign call, Trump reportedly called Fauci a "disaster" and said people are tired of coronavirus and hearing from "Fauci and all these idiots."
While Fauci has been frequently criticized by conservatives for his support of lockdowns to battle Covid-19, his popularity with Democrats has been growing. Presidential candidate Joe Biden has said he would give Fauci the opportunity to continue working with the White House on the pandemic if he won the election.
Thus, Democrats have not taken Trump's latest criticisms of the doctor all that well with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) and others targeting the president on social media.
"After deceptively using Dr. Fauci's words in a TV ad last week, now Trump is attacking him as a 'disaster.' For what? For telling the truth. We all know who the disaster is here, Mr. President. You," Rep. Adam Schiff (D-California) tweeted .
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Biden also released a statement condemning Trump's Fauci comments and claiming he is waving the "white flag" on the pandemic.
garyo550 1 hour ago Some time ago-this year-Fauci was outed as having endorsed, 15 years ago, Hydroxychlorquine as a drug that would kill AIDS, Ebola, SARS and a legion of other bugs. What has changed? Filthy lucre is one reason touted.
Oct 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
During a conference call with campaign staff that White House reporters were bizarrely allowed to listen in on, President Trump complained that "there's a bomb" every time Dr. Anthony Fauci goes on television, which is most days.
This is far from the first time President Trump has complained about the good doctor. But it might be the first time he's offered some direct commentary on exactly why he won't fire Dr. Fauci, even as Trump seems to have moved on with a new COVID-19 advisor, Dr. Scott Atlas, who has faced persecution by Big Tech for his views on how to approach COVID-19.
Though he conceded that the good doctor is "a nice guy" who has "been around for 500 years", Trump said the problem with Dr. Fauci is that every time he goes on TV "there's a bomb", yet if you fire him, "there's an even bigger bomb".
"People are saying whatever...just leave us alone. People are tired of COVID... People are tired of hearing Fauci and these idiots, all these idiots who got it wrong...every time he goes on television there's always a bomb, but there's a bigger bomb if you fire him. This guy's a disaster."
With less than 3 weeks to go before election day, Trump also asserted that the American people are moving on from COVID-19 as cases rebound, while hospitalizations are also starting to creep higher. However, so far at least, deaths have been mostly subdued.
Confirming that he was speaking mostly off the cuff, Trump added after that if there was a reporter on the call (he didn't seem to realize that multiple WH reporters were apparently listening) they could report it "just how I said it."
"If there's a reporter on you can have it just the way I said it, I couldn't care less," Trump said.
According to the NYT , Trump's campaign manager had organized the call to discuss strategy, before Trump pivoted to Dr. Fauci, an issue that was clearly on his mind following the doctor'scriticisms of Trump's campaign ads last week.
The NYT also brought up an interview with Dr. Fauci on '60 Minutes' last night where the doctor refuted Trump's claims that the end of the outbreak is just around the corner.
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Trump also reportedly called an NYT article claiming Trump was becoming increasingly dissatisfied with some of his aides - which followed Trump hinting that he might not bring back AG Bill Barr if elected for a second term due to his inability to charge any of the FBI officials involved with Operation Crossfire Hurricane despite the mountain of evidence suggesting some skulduggery was afoot as the FBI tried to put together an "insurance policy" to protect the nation from Trump.
"I love Mark Meadows," Trump reportedly said (the NYT report focused on frictions between the president and his chief of staff).
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Finally, Trump also told staff that the Wall Street Journal - which is controlled by Rupert Murdoch, who also owns and controls the New York Post, the paper the published the string of damning reports about Hunter Biden's influence-peddling abroad - is working on "an important story".
artvandalai , 5 hours ago
Boing_Snap , 1 hour ago....If there's a reporter on you can have it just the way I said it, I couldn't care less," Trump said.
And that, my friends, is why Trump won the first time and will win again.
Freeman of the City , 3 hours agoGreat link many thanks.
Izzy Dunne , 3 hours agoYep, you don't like Trump or America, good.
Move to China.
spqrusa , 3 hours agospqrusa:
You deluded sycophant. Fauci is head of NIAID.
He was APPOINTED to lead Trump's Corona virus task force.
Les D , 3 hours agoTrump did not appoint Fauci - Fauci is a permanent fixture in government protected from firing by your know... "laws"
What a crock - the President HAS the Authority under the Constitution to FIRE ANYONE under his command.
BaNNeD oN THe RuN , 3 hours agoYup, sure did, and too many others.
Wray, Barr, Bolton, Kelly, McMaster, Sessions, Tillerson, Cohn, Mattis, Kelly, Mooch, Kiersten and her successor McAleenan; CIA Brennan lap dancer Haspel; promoted Rosenstein to 1st Asst who then took over; Minarosa or whatever her name was.
Add who I'm forgetting. The worst performance of any president, brings in one snake after another. Gorsuch will be the next one that becomes obvious. His first majority opinion sounded the alarm. PT, Gorsuch said publicly Justice Kennedy, a 100% traitor turncoat, who he clerked for and swore him in, was his Judicial Idol. Donald, duh?
Inept, inattentive, betrayed, too trusting--choose your analysis but his people decisions, his favorite word: "A disaster".
Pig Circus , 4 hours ago@spqrusa
Correct, ultimately Dr. Fauci reports to the Director of the Department of Health & Human Services and Trump could insist that he be fired.
"... and that sumbytch got fired."
Love him or hate him The Trumpster tells it like it is. Most transparent President in history.
Sep 26, 2020 | www.rt.com
Thousands of Britons who suffer heart attacks and strokes are dying at home instead of seeking medical treatment, a new study has found, as new government figures show 75,000 are projected to die as a result of lockdown measures.
Stay-at-home orders prompted countless people suffering from serious medical conditions to avoid hospitals, according to the study's findings, which were published in the Heart medical journal and first reported by the Daily Mail. The paper noted that deaths from heart disease in private homes surged by 35 percent from March to July, resulting in 2,279 more fatalities on average over the past six years. However, heart and stroke deaths in hospitals dropped by around 1,400 during the same period, suggesting that some who chose to stay home would have died anyway even if they had been hospitalized. The researchers calculated that in total, there were 2,085 excess deaths in England and Wales that could be linked to heart attack and stroke sufferers who refused to seek out medical treatment. This means that between March 2 and June 30, every day 17 people died needlessly from heart attacks.
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Sen. Rand Paul, R-KY, weighs in on the Breonna Taylor decision, his argument with Dr. Fauci and the new Senate Hunter Biden report. #FoxNews
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Dr. Quack? CDC's Redfield Claims Masks "Guaranteed To Protect Against COVID" by Tyler Durden Thu, 09/17/2020 - 14:09 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print
Authored by Jordan Schachtel via The Mass Illusion,
In February, Redfield said healthy people should *not* wear masks.
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Testifying before the Senate Appropriations Committee Wednesday morning, CDC Director Robert Redfield entered further into quack doctor territory, claiming that wearing a mask protects the wearer against the novel coronavirus, even more so than a high-efficacy vaccine.
"These facemasks are the important, powerful public health tool we have," Redfield said, while touching both sides of his mask and unconsciously contaminating it with his hands. "I might even go so far as to say that this facemask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine," he added.
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This appears to be another "scientific" evolution on masks from the "public health expert" class. At first, we were advised not to wear masks. Then, the "my mask protects you. Your mask protects me" mantra became the widely disseminated narrative. Now, masks apparently have the incredible power of protecting the mask wearer from the virus.
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In February, Redfield said the exact opposite about masks.
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In the February hearing, Redfield told Americans not to buy medical-grade masks , saying there's "no role for these masks in the community."
There remains zero evidence that cloth masks or the earloop masks displayed by Redfield helps to slow the spread of COVID-19 or protect the wearer from infection. No country in the world has proven a link in slowing or stopping the spread due to mask wearing mandates, which are in effect in countless nations.
Given the lack of demonstrated evidence supporting it, mask-wearing has become a cult-like religious movement in the United States , one that relies on complete subservience to total mysticism. Members of the mask movement frequently target Americans who engage in non-compliance, likening these individuals to evil, plague-carrying menaces. Redfield's testimony will only add fuel to the mask mania that is sowing discord in America.
In his testimony, Redfield added that a COVID vaccine probably won't be available to the general public until at least the second or third quarter of 2021.
"If you're asking me when is it going to be generally available to the American public, so we can begin to take advantage of vaccine to get back to our regular life, I think we're probably looking at third, late second quarter, third quarter 2021," he testified, adding that first responders may have access to the vaccine before the end of the year.
Like many institutional bureaucracies in the federal government, the CDC has become plagued with corruption and "woke" politics. A whistleblower recently revealed that the CDC was forcing its staff to undergo "critical race theory" training.
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Under Redfield's leadership, the CDC dropped the ball on preparing Americans for the U.S. coronavirus outbreak, as shown through internal emails displaying the bureaucracy as an organizational mess.
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American Thinker has run several articles like this one about Dr. Anthony Fauci's political bias (which is his right). But the Miami Herald published an article that was aimed at undermining President Trump , which actually contains compelling evidence that Fauci's bias or ignorance is affecting what he is telling the American people about Covid-19. In the article, Dr. Fauci: 'I have to disagree' with Trump on coronavirus , the author writes:
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious diseases expert, disagreed on Friday with President Donald Trump's assertion that the country is "rounding the corner" on the coronavirus pandemic.
"I really do believe we're rounding the corner," Trump said during a White House briefing on Thursday. He added that newweekly cases have gone down by 44% since July.
"I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with that because if you look at the thing that you just mentioned, the statistics, Andrea, they're disturbing," Fauci told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on Friday.
"We're plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000.
From his interview with Andrea Mitchell Friday, the Herald quotes Fauci as stating, "We're plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000."
In fact, he is very wrong : the average daily new cases for the past two weeks have been 31,411, dramatically less than Fauci's 40,000 number; and the average daily deaths for the past two-weeks have been 697, a full 30% less than Fauci's 1,000.
More significant, do these graphs of weekly average new cases (blue graph) and deaths (red graph) from Bloomberg look like we're "plateauing?"
Source: Bloomberg
Fauci has a right and obligation to express his views about the current situation and the future risks, but he should not mislead the public about the facts.
As a reminder, here are his comments from last week:
"We've been through this before," he said. "Don't ever, ever underestimate the potential of the pandemic. And don't try and look at the rosy side of things."
"I keep looking at that curve, and I get more depressed and more depressed about the fact that we never really get down to the baseline that I'd like," he said.
EmmittFitzhume , 59 minutes ago
GoldenDebt , 58 minutes agoDeep State Fauci has to go. Perhaps to prison
SMSpiff , 42 minutes agoDr FRAUDci is non stop lying and flip-flopping
Pope Innocent III , 37 minutes agoIt's safe to come out of your basement now, Joe.
Jerky Miester , 32 minutes agoThe nature of the Fauci scam is the total intentional destruction of induction and deduction.
NotAGenius , 39 minutes agoYou've been ****ting up this board for 3 years 7 months, you little phaqqot. Time to get out of the basement and earn an honest living....unless you make your bread and beer money being a pro troll. KYS now.
Covidiot Lvr , 7 minutes agoThis is the legal argument to indict Fauci on mass murder charges, justified but justice no longer exists in the USA, written by a legal writer. These comments and Fauci's crimes would convict Fauci of mass murder and sentence him to prison for life:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/bad_medicine_on_hcq_faucis_waterloo.html .
knopperz , 55 minutes agoZeroes want Fauci's head on a stick...but decry liberals who interfere with the free speech rights of conservatives on college campuses.
Free speech or no free speech - which is it, Zeroes?
CheapBastard , 53 minutes agoThe flu vaccination is now 78 years around.
The flu is still there.Next Stop --> 78 Years wearing a diaper in your face.
Get used to it suckers.All those people pushing the Corona Narrative should be hanged by the Balls.
2hangmen , 54 minutes agoWe are obviously rounding the corner with fewer cases and fewer deaths. Most businesses trying to reopen. Fauci is political hack and was from the start. he's also totally incompetent or a liar giving Americans completely wrong advice from the start. The MSM loves him because he's anti-Trump.
NotAGenius , 44 minutes agoFauci has been wrong since day 1 on Covid. He's done multiple 180s on policies, and the fact this is NOT a deadly virus in comparison to all other virus outbreaks. He's still playing politics and he's still making millions from Big Pharma and the Deep State. Fauci, please say good bye, and ride off into the sunset with your ill gotten gains.
blueapples Staff , 33 minutes agoTrump can't fire Fauci. He is a career government employee. Trump gave him a platform in the beginning. Trump has been right about Fauci now and mostly about this cold virus too, advocating the best medicine possible for it - hcq - while Fauci prevented Americans from getting this cheap commercial safe and effective medical treatment. Fauci has committed mass murder by withholding a life-saving medicine from Americans. The FDA is criminal too, same reason. FDA has also been paying hospitals $39,000 for every patient they kill with the fatal ventilators, killing more than saving according to records. But the government wants more deaths for bigger numbers. The American medical system is actually a genocidal organization now, trying to kill as many Americans as possible in many different ways, many associated with this medical fraud. Fauci should be imprisoned for life were any justice to exist in America. At best, Trump can minimize and ignore him and arrange for him to have no venue to spout b.s. and lies publicly. That's what we basically need: Fauci minimized if not disappeared.
JaWS , 49 minutes agoWhy would he ever fire the fall guy? If he fired him, you'd still have the push for lockdowns, the policies based on flawed statistical models, and all the other nonsense. Except then without a guy like Fauci to place blame on, the administrations role in this becomes much more apparent.
It makes more sense to have a guy like Fauci on board to deflect to, especially given his career as a government employee, so that it looks like there's some nefarious underlying force that is working against the administration when the reality is that that nefarious underlying force is working in tandem with it.
Samual Vimes , 23 minutes agoDamn the cases. I know about 10 people that have tested positive for covid19. Most cases are not much more than a cold. Some not even that bad. Look at the deaths. That's where the narrative should go. They are significantly down from the peak.
serotonindumptruck , 38 minutes agoSAY WHAT! -- FDA is outsourcing Covid-19 testing to 10 Chinese companies
SummerSausage , 36 minutes ago"Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious diseases expert ..."
I have to disagree with this.
Bollixed , 6 minutes agoIf they left off the word "expert" it would be an accurate statement.
curtisw , 9 minutes agoFauci is an expert. An 'ex' is a has-been and a 'spert' is a drip under pressure. He fits the bill perfectly.
scottyji , 19 minutes ago"Because I have a vaccine to peddle."
-- A. Fauci
Ergo I.C. , 28 minutes agoFAUCI BELONGS IN PRISON.
Fauci's narcissisticly obsessed with his "expert image" and his lucrative role as pimp for Big Pharma = total Napoleon Complex, two-faced, stinkin' bureaucrat of the Deep State.
adr , 39 minutes agoBecause Fauci and his buddy Bill Gates are trying peddle vaccines worth billions of dollars.
Solarstone , 30 minutes agoSince Fauchi is supposedly an expert, maybe he can tell us why people suffering from hay fever are being told they have Covid.
CallingDrFraudschi , 25 minutes agoBecause you can have both. Try again
Consuelo , 36 minutes agoProof please.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I 2 = 30%, p = 0.25)
https://swprs.org/who-mask-study-seriously-flawed/
A. General flaws
- Of the 29 studies analyzed by the Lancet meta-study, seven studies are unpublished and non-peer-reviewed observational studies that should not be used to guide clinical practice according to the medRxiv disclaimer (references 3, 4, 31, 36, 37, 40 and 70; see table above).
- Of the 29 studies considered by the meta-study, only four are about the SARS-CoV-2 virus ; the other 25 studies are about the SARS-1 virus or the MERS virus, both of which have very different transmission characteristics: they were transmitted almost exclusively by severely ill hospitalized patients and not by community transmission.
- Of the four studies relating to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, two were misinterpreted by the Lancet meta-study authors ( refs. 44 and 70 ), one is inconclusive ( ref. 37 ), and one is about N95 (FFP2) respirators and not about medical masks or cloth masks (see detailed analysis below).
- The Lancet meta-study is used to guide global facemask policy for the general population. However, of the 29 studies considered by the meta-study, only three are classified as relating to a non-health-care (i.e. community) setting . Of these three studies, one is misclassified ( ref. 50 , relating to a hospital environment), one showed no benefit of facemasks ( ref. 69 ), and one is a poorly designed retrospective study about SARS-1 in Beijing based on telephone interviews ( ref. 74 ). None of these studies refer to SARS-CoV-2.
- The authors of the Lancet meta-study acknowledge that the certainty of the evidence regarding facemasks is "low" as all of the studies are observational and none is a randomized controlled trial (RCT). The WHO itself admitted that its updated facemask policy guidelines were based not on new evidence but on "political lobbying" .
In view of these shortcomings, University of Toronto epidemiology professor Peter Jueni called the WHO study "methodologically flawed" and "essentially useless".
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- In the US state of Kansas , the 90 counties without mask mandates had lower coronavirus infection rates than the 15 counties with mask mandates. To hide this fact, the Kansas health department tried to manipulate the official statistics and data presentation.
aelfheld , 34 minutes agoFauci has been torpedoed here --- even without his lying numbers (of cases & deaths). With the actual non-LYING numbers, he should be stripped of his medical license and prosecuted for gross negligence, even gross-er Incompetence, and for potential Criminal $Gain off his rather cozy relationship with Big Pharma and Bill Gates...
This whole thing was a $SCAM of the highest order.
Everybodys All American , 43 minutes agoFauci's a bureaucrat.
Bureaucrats have unqualified immunity.
drstrangelove73 , 6 minutes agoDuring the Spanish Flu of 1918 no one as I can tell was advocating for everyone to be vaccinated either for or against their will. That tells you everything about this Dr. Fauci imo. He should be removed from the planet.
asteroids , 14 minutes agoI've posted about Tony several times this year.I spent an academic quarter as a medical student on his service at the NIH,then saw him again many times in the 80's when I returned as a fellow.He is a lifelong democrat,and card carrying member of the deep state who has played politics with the management of viral infections for 40 years.Let that sink in.He has been the director of the same NIH institute for 40 years.No one else in the history of the institute has been a director for half that long.You think he doesn't know how to play the game? _arrow
Hyzer , 9 minutes agoHow does Fauci explane Sweden? The number of new cases is very low. Their death rate is almost zero. Sweden now has herd immunity without a vaccine.
TannyDanner , 3 minutes agoHe pretends it doesn't exist, just like the MSM.
legalize , 18 minutes agoHe's trusting the plebs won't do their own research. I'm looking at the data almost daily and am beyond thankful that Sweden had the balls to go about it the way they did and not bow down to the bullies.
Useful_Idiot714 , 35 minutes ago
- Fauci himself has said that asymptomatic cases are "not the driver of infection"
- We keep measuring "cases" instead of symptomatic cases
- Therefore, I could give **** all about "case numbers"; I want to know about number of people who are infectious/symptomatic
SummerSausage , 46 minutes ago700 mostly old people with other diseases are dying from this each day in a country of 325,000,000. Sounds like we need mail in voting so that the frightened commies can vote early and often to save us by electing a senile racist rapist pedophile.
Robert Paulson , 30 minutes agoPanic is Fauci's objective.
Democrats love big government which means more power for Fauci, more taxes and less freedom for you.
Loser Face , 16 minutes agoPanic is too unpredictable, and disruptive.
The "hope" is for respectful, solemn acceptance that Big Brother/Sister can save "us" from ill health, poverty and international "enemies."
I mean **** was broken across most institutions throughout Western Civilization before the flu was weaponized into a means of control. But the whole theater has become absurd.
JamcaicanMeAfraid , 27 minutes agoEveryone should watch this video, which explains the US mortality curve: https://youtu.be/8UvFhIFzaac
The casedemic is pure and blatant FUD targeted towards Trump and Americans.
aelfheld , 44 minutes agoI predict on November 4th and if Dementia Joe is elected Fauci and his super ego will stand before any microphone put in fromt of him and say "Joe Biden has put a stop to covid, he has conquered the virus."
JaWS , 51 minutes agoFauci sees the statistics as disturbing because they indicate an endpoint to his prominence.
GoldenDebt , 1 hour agoThere are 4 men in my county that were tested positive within about 3 days of each other and they had to quarantine for 14 days. About a week into it they started meeting everyday down at the local fishing hole to fish while no one else was around. One of these men is 80 years old. The other 3 are in their 70s. Does this sound like something to shut the entire country down?
moneybots , 13 minutes agoDont be a moron
Dr Fraudci is all politics and he's LYING. Dr FRAUDci also never condemned the protests as being potential SUPER-SPREADER events
He's a criminal
Thalamus , 45 minutes ago"I really do believe we're rounding the corner," Trump said during a White House briefing on Thursday. He added that newweekly cases have gone down by 44% since July.
"I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with that because if you look at the thing that you just mentioned, the statistics, Andrea, they're disturbing," Fauci told Andrea Mitchell on Friday.
The statistics say Trump is right, according to the chart. Why is Fauci lying to the American people?
Zerogenous_Zone , 48 minutes agoFauci's worst case prediction of 1.7 million deaths from Covid-19 kind of came up short at only 10K; but at least he didn't yell fire in a crowded theater .
which statistics?
to quote the great Mark Twain (now classified by the leftists as a rassiss)...
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics ."
the one statistic that is relevant, is the decrease in mortality...
and I for one, would like to know how they created a Covid-19 specific test...wait...what was that?
THEY HAVEN'T?! it is an antigen test...that is, if you have any residual from your LAST flu shot (they inject you with lysed virus to build up your antibody count...antigens!) you could test positive...
and probably a majority of the tests are at issue since the test is highly inaccurate...
but who cares? the virus is out of the box and here to stay...so you have either already been exposed, or you will soon be exposed...and NO vaccine will be sufficient (since viral strains mutate almost immediately)...especially the comment cold (news flash!! the 'common cold' is a CORONAVIRUS!!)
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Choomwagon Roof Hits , 3 hours agoAt what point does the man on the street realize that he has been had? It took me about 2 weeks, 6 months ago to realize what Fauci and his cronies were saying was nonsense. Smart people that I know, took months to reach the same conclusion but many people are still buying the disinfo.
fackbankz , 3 hours agoOnce I started getting into the influenza-like-illness data and realized this was spreading exponentially worldwide since at least November - there were probably millions or tens of millions of people infected and recovered in the US by the time the first cases were identified.
The scam just gets bigger and more absurd every week.
Wait until cold and flu season when people freak out over every little case of the sniffles. Many will have forgotten completely that one year ago it was normal for people to catch cold, and nobody worried about it.
Sep 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Jeffrey Tucker via The American Institute for Economic Research,
Just when the fear starts to subside, and growing public skepticism seems to push governors into opening, something predictable happens . The entire apparatus of mass media hops on some new, super-scary headline designed to instill more Coronaphobia and extend the lockdowns yet again.
It's a cycle that never stops. It comes back again and again.
A great example occurred this weekend. A poll appeared on Friday from the Kaiser Family Foundation. It showed that confidence in Anthony Fauci is evaporating along with support for lockdowns and mandatory Covid vaccines.
The news barely made the headlines, and very quickly this was overshadowed by a scary new claim: restaurants will give you Covid!
It's tailor-made for the mainstream press. The study is from the CDC, which means: credible. And the thesis is easily digestible: those who test positive for Covid are twice as likely as those who tested negative to have eaten at a restaurant.
"Eating and drinking on-site at locations that offer such options might be important risk factors associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection," the study says.
Very scary!
Thus the implied conclusion: don't allow indoor dining! Otherwise Covid will spread like wildfire!
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After six months of this Corona Kabuki dance, driven by alarmist media and imposed by wacko, power-abusing governors and mayors, I've become rather cynical about the whole enterprise, so I mostly ignore the latest nonsense.
In this case, however, I decided to take a closer look simply because so many millions of owners, workers, and customers have been treated so brutally in the "War on Restaurants."
It turns out, of course, that this is not what the study said. What's more interesting is to consider exactly what's going on here. The study was based on interviews with 314 people who had been tested of their own volition. It included 154 patients with positive test results and 160 control participants with negative test results.
The interviews took place two weeks following the tests, and they concerned life activities two weeks prior to getting the test.
Before we go on here, remember that what alarmed people about Covid was the prospect of dying. The study says nothing about this subject, nor about hospitalization. It's a fair assumption that the positive cases being interviewed here got it (presumably, if the tests are accurate, which they are not ) and got over it.
This alone is interesting simply because it reveals how much the whole subject has been changed: the pandemic has become a casedemic.
Now, to the question of life activities. In the study, based on answers to a survey, the following were not correlated in any significant degree with positive cases of Covid:
Wearing a mask or not wearing a mask
Going to church
Riding on public transportation
Attending large house parties
Going to the gym
Going to the office
Going to the hair salon
Going shopping
Now one might suppose, if you think the study has any merit, that this would be the headline.
The massive power of the state has been deployed all over the United States and the world to force the closure of churches, gyms, offices, salons, and malls. This all happened and is still happening. Also mask mandates became the new normal. The public has been invited by health authorities to jeer at, denounce, and turn in anyone who doesn't have a cloth strapped to his or her face.
All of this happened in complete contradiction to every commercial right, property right, or normal human freedoms. We threw it all away in the name of virus control. Our lives have been completely upended and our assumptions about our rights and liberties have been overturned.
And yet here is a study that is unable to document any correlation between these life activities and catching the disease.
That's an amazing conclusion that could have generated headlines like:
Salons Won't Get You Sick, CDC Reports
You Won't Catch Covid at the Gym, CDC Shows
No, Your Hairstylist Doesn't Spread the Coronavirus
Scared to Go Shopping? Don't Be, Says the CDC
Your Mask Is Pointless, New Study Says
Church Goers Shouldn't Fear Sickness, Scientists Reveal
Study: Your House Party Didn't Spread the Virus
And so on. But none of this was to be. Not one single story in the mainstream press said anything like this, even though this was all implied by the CDC study.
The one place that the study revealed a positive correlation between positive cases and life activities was going to restaurants.
So that's what got the alarmist headlines. Yes, these are all real.
New COVID-19 Study Blames Coronavirus Spread on Restaurant Dining
Coronavirus Patients Twice As Likely To Have Eaten In Restaurants Before Getting Ill: CDC Study
Adults with COVID-19 twice as likely to have eaten at restaurants, CDC study finds
Study finds bad news for bar and restaurant-goers during COVID-19
US govt study highlights Covid-19 risk from bars and restaurants
And so on for thousands of times in every mainstream venue. They are all competing for clicks in the great agenda of extending lockdowns and feeding public fear as much as possible. So the worst-possible spin on this slightly sketchy study gets all the headlines.
Thus is it burned into many people's minds that restaurants are really disease-spreading venues. Go out to eat and you might die!
And here is what makes this even stranger. The interviewers never asked the people in the survey whether they were eating indoors or outdoors, as incredible as that seems. The authors admit this:
"Of note, the question assessing dining at a restaurant did not distinguish between indoor and outdoor options."
Why not? Did they just forget to ask? What's going on here?
Which is to say that even if the results are meaningful – and there's so much about this study that is murky and error prone – they are practically useless for knowing what to do about it. If there is no distinction between indoor and outdoor, all speculation about ventilation or crowds or the presence of food and so on, is utterly pointless.
Without knowing that, we are at a loss to figure out any answer to the question of why and what to do. Instead, the message comes down to: don't go out to eat.
Here is how bad the science has become. In the discussion, the authors write the following:
"Direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance. Masks cannot be effectively worn while eating and drinking, whereas shopping and numerous other indoor activities do not preclude mask use."
Here is what is weird: the study itself supports none of that paragraph.
The survey never asked about ventilation because the people who made the survey somehow forgot to make a query concerning indoor vs. outdoor dining . As for masks, the study did in fact ask respondents about mask wearing and the results showed no correlation between the sickness and whether and to what extent people were wearing masks!
In other words, that paragraph in the discussion is contradicted in two places by the authors' own study.
In addition, the authors themselves point to an intriguing issue: the people in the survey might have biased their answers based on their personal knowledge of the test results.
Think about it this way. The people who had a positive Covid test are more likely to ask themselves the great question: how did I get this? Going to restaurants is such a rare activity these days that it stands out in one's mind. When the survey asked people if they had gone out to eat, it is possible that the memory of the Covid positive person might be more likely to blame the restaurant, whereas the Covid negative person might be more likely to have forgotten the locale of every meal in the last 30 days.
In other words, the real result of the study might be: Covid patients are more likely to scapegoat restaurants than gyms, churches, and salons.
Alas, none of these interesting considerations appear in the media-rendered version of this study: panic and keep the lockdowns in place!
Lockdowns have become a conclusion in a desperate search for evidence. Imagine if you undertook a study of C-positive vs. C-negative cases and asked the people if they mostly wear lace-up or slip-on shoes. If you come up with some positive correlation, the CDC will publish you and a media panic will ensue.
This is precisely where we've been for six solid months now. The media has become the handmaiden of lockdown tyranny, blasting out simplistic versions of sketchy studies to keep the panic going as long as possible. And the public, which is far too trusting of the media and its capacity for rational and accurate reporting, eats it up.
For now. Once the dust settles on all of this, it seems highly likely that media science reporting will lose credibility for a generation. It certainly deserves that fate.
Meanwhile, an entire industry is being creamed .
play_arrow Walter Melon , 3 hours agoLA_Goldbug , 3 hours agoSame CDC that said this the other day:
"Cloth masks that are used to slow the spread of COVID-19 offer little protection against wildfire smoke. They do not catch small particles found in wildfire smoke that can harm your health."
Just checking if that's the same CDC.
honest injun , 3 hours agoWow !!!!!
Nice find :-)
At what point does the man on the street realize that he has been had? It took me about 2 weeks, 6 months ago to realize what Fauci and his cronies were saying was nonsense. Smart people that I know, took months to reach the same conclusion but many people are still buying the disinfo.
Sep 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Are we overreacting to COVID-19?Be it Resolved, the scientific community has overreacted to the threat of COVID-19 and the data prove it...
GUESTSSix months into a global pandemic and 63,000 scientific papers later, scientists and medical researchers continue to be perplexed by COVID-19. There are many unknowns with the virus, and one of the most controversial is how deadly it really is. Since the beginning of the pandemic, leading health institutions such as the World Health Organization and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases have warned that COVID-19 is much more dangerous than the seasonal flu and that, without expansive public health measures, millions of people around the world could die from the virus.
But there are some in the scientific community who disagree. And they say they have the data to prove it. Antibody testing of large population groups indicates that we could be grossly underestimating the number of people who have been infected by the virus – which means we are dramatically overestimating the death rate. Given these findings, they question whether sweeping public health controls are the way to approach a possible second wave of COVID-19 this autumn.
To understand the true prevalence of COVID-19 infections in the United States, Jay Bhattacharya has recently undertaken several seroprevalence studies (the study of antibodies in a population). You can read about his study of Santa Clara County in California here and his study of 5,600 Major League Baseball employees here .
Sten Vermund has published numerous scholarly studies on infectious diseases, which you can view here .
During the debate both Jay and Sten speak about COVID-19's "infection fatality rate" (IFR). IFR is one of the most important characteristics of an infectious disease in determining its severity. It is basically the ultimate measure of a disease's ability to cause death. You can learn more about IFR and how it is estimated here . In the debate, both Jay and Sten agree that the current estimates of the COVID-19 infection fatality rates are overestimated and therefore misleading. To learn more, read Jay's Wall Street Journal op ed.
During the debate, Sten points out that between March and May of 2020 there was a 19 per cent excess death rate in the United States. Excess death rates refer to the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time period and expected number of deaths in the same time period. According to Sten, the excess rates are probably 28 per cent higher than the official deaths tally of COVID-19 because so many cases are not reported. This Nature.com article supports this view.
Jay argues that part of the science community's overreaction to COVID-19 has been censorship of unpopular scientific views . Jay refers to an op ed in the New York Times by Michael Eisen that expresses concern about how scientific study pre-prints are being released before they are peer reviewed, and calling for the establishment of a scientific "rapid review" service for pre-prints.
One of the scientists Jay identifies as having an unorthodox view on COVID-19 is Gabriela Gomez, She speaks about her research on herd immunity occurring when as little as ten percent of the population has been infected with the virus here and you can read her research article here .
Sten and Jay disagree with each other about the feasibility of isolating the most vulnerable members of society, particularly the elderly, while letting the rest of the population continue to live normally . Sten refers to a New York Times article by David Katz which supports the strategy of "vertical interdiction", where those over 60 are "preferentially protected."
Jay refers to the recent release of findings from a Public Health England study that found negligible spread among one million students who returned to school in June.
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During the debate Jay identifies Sweden's approach to COVID-19 as a model for the world, while Sten argues it represents a failed strategy. You can decide for yourself by listening to the Munk Debate, Be it resolved, Sweden is the model for how to fight this pandemic and the next.
Listen to the full debate below:
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/962-the-munk-debates-podcast-p-52131924/episode/be-it-resolved-the-scientific-community-71215453/?embed=true
Sep 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
In the past, our reports raising questions about the accuracy of COVID-19 tests have been met with accusations of 'fearmongering' and spreading 'misinformation'.
But not today.
That's because new research from the University of Oxford's Center for Evidence-Based Medicine and the University of the West of England has found that the swab-based technique used for most COVID-19 testing is at risk of returning "false positives" since copies of the virus's RNA detected by the tests might simply be dead, inactive material from a weeks-old infection. Although patients infected with COVID-19 are typically only infectious for a week or less, tests can be triggered by virus genetic material left over from a weeks-old infection.
The team's research involved analyzing 25 studies on the widely used polymerase chain reaction test. PCR tests use material collected with a swab - the most common type of test around the world, and especially in the US - then utilize a "genetic photocopying" technique that allows scientists to magnify the small sample of genetic material collected, which they can then analyze for signs of viral RNA.
What the researchers here have effectively found is that these PCR tests just aren't sensitive enough to distinguish if the viral material is active and infectious, or dead and inert.
For those who desire a more comprehensive understanding of how these tests work, the chart below can be helpful.
Professor Carl Heneghan, one of the authors of the study, said there was a risk that a surge in testing across the UK was increasing the risk of this sample contamination occurring and it may explain why the number of Covid-19 cases is rising but the number of deaths is static.
"Evidence is mounting that a good proportion of 'new' mild cases and people re-testing positives after quarantine or discharge from hospital are not infectious, but are simply clearing harmless virus particles which their immune system has efficiently dealt with," he told the Spectator.
Professor Heneghan added that international scrutiny might be required to avoid "the dangers of isolating non-infectious people or whole communities." ZKnight 14 minutes ago
Fake science. How about purify the virus first and establish a gold standard for testing first. No, of course not because the CDC has a patent for Covid-19 and nobody is allowed to try find it to see if it exists. play_arrow LogicFusion 27 minutes ago
Everybody is a Covid-19 / Coronavirus expert now!
Read about the failed coin dealer and convicted felon's performance. It's hilarious!
Martin Armstrong becomes Covid-19 Coronavirus Expert overnight play_arrow ducksinarow 59 minutes ago
Covid -19 has been so politicized that I don't believe a word of any publication for or against testing, existence of the Virus, or anything that provokes testing or issues opinions about locking down communities. Just like the riots, Covid news is just plain boring. play_arrow ominous 3 hours ago
Link to spectator.co.uk goes to home page, not this story.
Where is the original story posted? play_arrow play_arrow ominous 3 hours ago (Edited)
Perhaps this
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/infectious-positive-pcr-test-result-covid-19/ y_arrow 1 Rabbi Blitzstein 38 minutes ago
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes the laws" - Mayer Amschel Rothschild. play_arrow play_arrow tangent 4 hours ago remove link
People who recommend a vaccine for an entirely cured virus should lose their license to practice medicine. 99.9% cure rate applying to people who take it before being hospitalized is one of the biggest success stories in the history of medicine for HCQ. Not only that, but there are multiple other likely cures that simply have not been studied well. You'd think people would appreciate the fact that the common cold has been cured, but instead they just whine that big pharma isn't getting those bucko bucks.
I honestly expected a ticker tape parade like in the movies when that first cure study came out. But instead they took a massive **** on the study and on the doctor... ****ty world we live in. ay_arrow Pair Of Dimes Shift 2 hours ago
An exec (55+) at my company is gung ho about the vaccine.
Unfortunately, I just had to give him a "wait and see" response although I know vaccines for coronaviruses are impossible. play_arrow 2 play_arrow ThanksIwillHaveAnother 4 hours ago (Edited)
Viruses are not full cells. They are DNA/RNA wrapped with a protein the clings to a cell then the cell imports the DNA/RNA to start making its proteins. So what is inactive? If that person sneezes on another person depending on immune system status that other person could get a bad infection. y_arrow 4 CrabbyR 3 hours ago
viruses utilizes CELL structures and host DNA to replicate dna or rna according to the viruses genetic code, the protein jacket is the final product to
disguise the virus from detection and to bind on another cell after the compromised cell RUPTURES, there's more to it but if it cannot copy itself effectively it can become nonviable and unable to infect another cell. It replicates DNA inside a host cell, It is not a complete organism and cannot replicate unless it can inject its DNA into a host cell. Antibodies cling to viruses and destroy this ability to bind to a target cell. A non viable virus has a damaged coat or DNA RNA that has to many Dimers (damage or code breaks) Bacteria is more in line with what you think a virus is y_arrow onewayticket2 4 hours ago (Edited) remove link
they lost me when they changed the definition of "death" to include "presumed, untested" cases (while bI@#$% ing at me that we needed to "follow the science")....and even got busted for the laughable motorcycle accident being classified as a covid death and the Labs that were sending in 100% positive results. (until they were caught) play_arrow OutaTime43 4 hours ago remove link
The test detects RNA. Not necessarily viable virus. Also, it will detect RNA presence in an individual who may already have antibodies and may be immune. We are bombarded daily by viruses of which we already have immunity. play_arrow sun tzu 10 hours ago
Shocking news that the South Koreans already discovered and published back in May. Western big pharma driven medicine is garbage 😂😂😂
play_arrow Roger Casement 10 hours agoWTF!!!!
World Bank exporting COVID-19 Testing Kits in 2018??????
https: // wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2018/tradeflow/Exports/partner/WLD/nomen/h5/product/300215 play_arrow 7 play_arrow sun tzu 10 hours ago
Interesting play_arrow play_arrow Jack Mehoff 1 more time 9 hours ago
Business as usual play_arrow play_arrow Argon1 7 hours ago
Preparation for agenda 2021 in 2017. play_arrow 1 play_arrow CrabbyR 4 hours ago
WOW.......ties a few strands from other sources together into a real ugly picture play_arrow play_arrow Welsh Bard 10 hours ago
The professor who won the Nobel prize for work in this field, said that the way this test is being operated with over forty cycles, means that any results are entirely meaningless.
In Britain, having spent over £15 billion setting up PCR testing systems and a shaky test and trace apparatus on top of that, it appears that 90% of positive results now appear to be false. This is compounded by the fact that when a hot spot develops, more testing is done to show a rapid increase in more false positive results, meaning further new lockdowns and even more testing to prove yet more false positive results ad infinitum.
Now whether this is by design or ineptitude, people must decide for themselves but the outcome is utter chaos.
For those countries who have not followed the Swedish model especially countries like Australia and New Zealand who have set up complete isolation, now face a future perpetually cut off from the rest of the world.
Okay, new techniques will and are coming along to treat the disease like HCQ when used correctly maybe as a prophylactic and a vaccine that will need to be constantly upgraded like the Flu vaccine, means that the whole world has painted itself into a corner unless drastic revision is now made to the whole sorry mess.
In the meantime, we will now be stuck with digital currency and the introduction of ID Health Cards that will limit people in how they travel where they work and access to a whole heap of things like government services.
Welcome to the new world order! play_arrow 1 KuriousKat 11 hours ago (Edited) remove link
Don't tell the Shameless Aussie gov that after arresting hundreds for simply voicing doubt on need to lockdown entire city...Next time it will be thousands and not a damn thing they can do to stop it..These people are trickling us the truth how worthless the tests are when pretty much everyone knows. play_arrow espirit 12 hours ago remove link
Lessee.
WHO
Imperial College
John Hopkins
CDC
Line all those peeps up against the wall, and the first one to rat gets to live.
I'll provide my own ammo... ay_arrow Sick Monkey 6 hours ago
Not everyone working in these agencies are dishonest but like you and I we have to work and eat.
Most of them are trapped in this mess with bills to pay threatened by NDA.
play_arrow 1 Urban Roman 12 hours agoNot particularly new news. Been talked about since April at least -- it's an RNA virus, it has its own polymerase, and it leaves lots of RNA fragments in its wake.
The Corona family of viruses make 5 or 6 strands with partial copies of their RNA molecule. negative copies are made first, and then copied again into positive copies. Finally the one big RNA is made with the entire genome on it.
So about a dozen RNA molecules are made for each finished virus particle that is produced. And finally, a variety of different primers are used for the PCR tests, some are matched to the small partial RNA copies and others are matched to various features on the large whole-virus RNA. They can give different results for the same sample.
So, someone who registers on a PCR test has probably been exposed to the virus, but the test gives no clue as to whether it is an active infection, or the person is contagious, or they are just coming down with it, or they got over it six months ago. play_arrow 4 play_arrow 1
10 play_arrow gordo 12 hours ago remove link
Sweden, no masks, no lock downs, ALL SCHOOLS OPEN, herd immunity, no second wave.
Still think your masks and lock downs are working muppets?
1 play_arrow The 3rd Dimentia 13 hours agohttps://youtu.be/sjYvitCeMPc SARS-CoV2 and the Rise of Medical Technocracy. Lee Merritt, M.D. play_arrow 3 play_arrow hugin-o-munin 13 hours ago
I'm glad to see that many are starting to counter the official narrative.
We've been asleep for too long and allowed these agendas to fester to the point we're at now where a college dropout software salesman and a former 3rd world communist terrorist (neither of whom have any medical degree) are dictating to the world how everyone needs to get a DNA altering vaccine and a medical ID. It's completely nuts and bonkers yet more or less the entire planet's governments follow in 'lockstep' with ever more draconian laws and regulations incarcerating people in their own homes, making them wear masks causing oxygen deprivation and shutting down the entire world economy.
lay_arrow Warthog777 , 13 hours ago
Cabreado , 13 hours agoArticle is poorly written by someone who does not know medical science. There are no viral "cells" so the headline is a put off right away. The comment about "sensitivity" is misplaced as PCR tests are too sensitive: ergo false positives. I believe "specificity" is the word the author was searching for. If a test lumps true positives with false positives, then it lacks specificity.
Crush the cube , 13 hours ago"accusations of 'fearmongering' and spreading 'misinformation'.
But not today."Well, much of the world has known for months now about the testing lies...
and I'd be remiss to not remind the Tylers that they indeed played a role in the fear mongering along the way; quite intently so.
Digital-Anarchy , 14 hours agohttps://play.google.com/store/books/details/Flavio_Bell_Covid_24?id=SxrxDwAAQBAJ
Busted, published 2018, what a scam.
hugin-o-munin , 13 hours agoAnyone who would use the term "virus cells", has no clue what they're talking about and should be completely disregarded. Viruses are not cells. PCR tests are searching for something your body produces in response to a virus as well. They are not produced specifically for a singular virus either. The entire concept of PCR testing is garbage. This **** was a scam from the get-go.
snblitz , 14 hours agoYes it is evident now that this entire pandemic is false and political. The goal seems to be to vaccinate entire populations and the question people need to ask is - why? what for? Aside from the obvious economic motives there are some more sinister plans that most people will have a hard time accepting but these need to be looked at. Several years ago there were a group of doctors and researchers that died of suspicious suicides who were collaborating and studying vaccines and the link to autism.
The effort was led by Dr.Jeffrey Bradstreet who was researching the natural substance GcMAF and how this could boost the immune system. What he discovered was that many vaccines had a compound/substance called Nagalase in them that is unnatural and has a detrimental effect on the immune system and function of GcMAF (which is produced by our own bodies) and has no business at all being in vaccines. Just before he was able to blow the whistle on this he also died of a suspicious 'suicide' and today most of the clinics and research groups working on GcMAF have been destroyed and ruined. Draw your own conclusions.
snblitz , 14 hours agoDr. Kary Mullis invented the PCR test. He said it was ineffective for this purpose.
Though he was addressing its use in a prior virus hoax unleashed upon the world.
I bet you didn't know this scam has been used before.
That is why I was able to call out the scam right from the start. The second I saw them using the PCR again, I knew it was from the same playbook.
aldousd , 13 hours agoSo many lies.
Viruses are not alive. They have no metabolic functions. They cannot move.
Don't believe me? Get a degree is virology or microbiology or just a read a book on the subject. Or capture a wuhan-virus yourself and watch it under a microscope. It won't move. It won't consume anything. It will just sit there inert.
The problem is that you are being lied to at a scale you cannot imagine.
I know, off to the fema re-education camp for me for spreading false information about the wuhan-virus.
Though I am not the one spreading fear and hysteria.
mstyle , 11 hours agoThere article is confused, but the work of the doctor is not. Viruses use your cells to reproduce. When your immune system targets the virus it actually kills your own cell which has become host to the virus. The virus particles and markers, and the DNA of the virus can be detected in these dead cells, but dead cells cannot serve as a factory for more viruses. So it's effectively a dead virus infected cell. Not a dead virus cell.
So while the transcription of the idea here was done by an idiot, it's not an idiotic idea. The tests cannot tell if the virus came in a living cell that is actively producing more viruses or a dead host cell that has been assassinated by your immune system. That's what they're talking about here.
hugin-o-munin , 11 hours agowhat about the chromosome 8 stuff that has been mentioned lately?
(since you appear to be rather intelligent)
IRC162 , 14 hours agoThanks. Well the chromosome 8 discovery in the PCR test specifications/details is strange and worrying because it makes you wonder why it's part of this at all. Some believe it's to get more false positive results while others believe it is what the mRNA vaccines are intended to target and if that's right then it's really sinister. What exactly is the plan? To make all of us get Downs Syndrome? I don't know but judging by all their other lies and schemes it wouldn't surprise me.
adr , 15 hours agoFuggin progressives and their pandemic political prop. But really this reaction is the same as their reaction to 'racial injustice'. They focus on feelings before the facts are known in order to achieve their end, and then do their best to bury/ignore the facts when they are gathered later.
94% COVID deaths with multiple comorbidities.
10 unarmed blacks killed by police in 2019 (6 were in self-defense).
Antiduck , 14 hours agoWhy didn't you mention that nearly all labs are running 35-40 cycles which guarantees a positive test, simply from noise.
The inventor of the test said if you don't find anything after 15 cycles, it probably isn't there. After 20 cycles the noise starts to be greater than any real information. By 30, the test is mostly noise. More than 35, the test is completely worthless.
Of course I've been saying this for five months, but most people didn't listen. After the NYT article came out, people I know started saying, "How did you know?"
I said, "Because I have critical thinking skills. Why didn't you believe me? Name a time I've steered you wrong."
ZenStick , 12 hours ago333 labs in florida had 100% positivity. (stupid word.)
Identify as Ferengi , 15 hours agoExactly correct.
Nobody will touch this line of reasoning in public or on media.
Bastages.naro , 15 hours agoSee above, Born2Bwired.
The PCR test is not useful for what they are using it for apparently. This has been known since the beginning. Here is quote regarding AIDS:
"Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize in Science for inventing the PCR, is thoroughly convinced that HIV is not the cause of "AIDS". With regard to the viral load tests, which attempt to use PCR for counting viruses, Mullis has stated: "Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron." PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.
What PCR does is to select a genetic sequence and then amplify it enormously. It can accomplish the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack; it can amplify that needle into a haystack. Like an electronically amplified antenna, PCR greatly amplifies the signal, but it also greatly amplifies the noise. Since the amplification is exponential, the slightest error in measurement, the slightest contamination, can result in errors of many orders of magnitude."
NYTimes article last week suggested that only 10% of Covid positive PCR tests are clinically significant and infectious.
Sep 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
LetThemEatRand , 15 hours ago
afronaut , 15 hours agoIn six or twelve months a majority of people will start to get that they were had. It will be too late.
palmereldritch , 14 hours agoDoubt it. Unless the media or government says it
mstyle , 11 hours agoThere will be mask wearing long before then for totally different reasons.
_wayfarer , 9 hours agoThere's a rather large percentage of the US population that's going to die with a mask on their face, a BLM sign in their yard, and a Lemon on their screen.
Sad :-(
Salisarsims , 5 hours agoThey were had with 9/11, never got it.
BlueGreen , 15 hours agoMost of the United States where had by 9/11, and still are.
drendebe10 , 15 hours agoEnd lockdowns around the world now! Lockdowns kill. Never again. Sweden's death rate is lower than US, and many other countries.
NoDebt , 15 hours agoGaedamfukn democrap virus. Botox face carcinogenic hair dyed fossilized demented nasty wicked witch of the west ... and her army of flying monkey stooge guvners and mayors keeping their states shut down to oust Orange Julius and they could give two diarrhea schitz about you and your family All these terds care about is power
MaF , 15 hours agoIt's not just that the (government) response to this virus has ****** a lot of people royally, it's the absolute certainty that they will do it again in exactly the same manner, pretty much every damned year moving forward forever.
drendebe10 , 15 hours agoIn many blue states they can do it until 2022 when they are voted out...unless the people rise up.
PaulDF , 15 hours agoSheeple rise up? Phat phukn chance
palmereldritch , 14 hours agoHey, some people think that as long as Trump is gone ~ it doesn't matter what it takes. Nothing is too extreme.
Implied Violins , 15 hours agoThe MS-DOS virus subscription model.
Sound familiar? lay_arrow
EuroPox , 16 hours agoThe Nobel Prize winner, Kary Mullis, who developed the PCR test called out Fraudci for his ******** during the AIDS crisis on Nightline back in 1994:
https://www.sott.net/article/434439-Was-the-COVID-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus
Even then that ******* was practicing fraud in order to garner more tax dollars. His "test" ruined hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of lives.
Fraudci deserves to be EXECUTED for his BS.
TeamDepends , 16 hours agoWho cares how many 'cases' there are? The virus is not lethal except for a tiny number of people, who already have other problems. Quarantine them and let the rest of us get on with it.
COVID-19 is as real as Muhammed Atta.
Aug 31, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
"So get this straight – based on the recommendation of doctors Fauci and Birx the US shut down the entire economy based on 9,000 American deaths to the China coronavirus." The Gateway Pundit."
"... the coronavirus fatality rate reported by the liberal mainstream media was completely inaccurate and the actual rate more like a typical seasonal flu – the media was lying again.
Doctors Fauci and Birx were next to push ridiculous and highly exaggerated mortality rates related to the coronavirus:
- Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
- The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic.
- The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
- Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model
But the Imperial College model Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed was garbage and they recommended the destruction of the US economy using this model." Gateway Pundit
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Hmmm ... The Fauci is a god crowd will heap scorn on this but, thing about it. pl
Eric Newhill , 30 August 2020 at 11:17 AMEric Newhill , 30 August 2020 at 05:10 PMYes, Col Lang., as you know, this is what I've been saying for months. It is what the good data and analysis (not that CDC garbage) reveals. However, no one wants to believe the evil capitalist private insurance companies. They think government is far more trustworthy and competent. More of that conditioning of attitude and perception by the powers that be in the plan to implement a big global govt.
The govt could have worked with the insurance companies to understand this thing. Seems like the logical move if you have poor quality data and insurance has good data, and you really believe there is a lethal pandemic on the loose.
Eric Newhill , 30 August 2020 at 05:15 PMLaura Wilson,
When you are over 75 years old, you are going to succumb to serious underlying conditions covid or no covid. Those who's deaths are being attributed to covid are primarily in that age group. It is disingenuous to create a panic over a virus that almost exclusively contributes (at most) to the deaths of the elderly with underlying serious conditions. Many of those who have died, succumbed to the underlying condition, but incidentally had covid.
Another new report has come out that shows a significant proportion of covid positive tests are showing positive for minuscule viral loads in the system; not enough to cause illness (or serious illness). How many of those elderly that died of underlying conditions fall into that category? Many of the tests show false positives.
This whole thing has been one big scam - and I believe deliberately.
turcopolier , 30 August 2020 at 06:13 PMActually, Laura, when you are over 75 years old, the risk of dying increases, period. Once you're into the 85 year old and over bucket, which many covid deaths are, you were probably going to die regardless; unless you're a vampire or some other inhuman death defying creature. Is this really news to anyone?
We must look at years of expected life lost, not raw body counts. That approach reveals covid to not be a threat to society.
rho , 30 August 2020 at 06:44 PMwalrus
The numbers are consistent because the strategy has been carefully worked out to have consistent documents. There will not be 20 million COVID cases requiring hospitalization because a high percentage do not get sick. In re the IO, been there done that myself. My question is, which group or constellation of groups is running the op.
Jack , 30 August 2020 at 07:04 PMdan of steele,
"Here in old Europe it seems we are on the verge of a new outbreak. Some people have gone on vacation and the number of daily new cases is on the rise."
The number of daily new cases in Germany has recently doubled because the number of daily tests has also roughly doubled. The share of positive tests among all tests has remained constant at around 1% for 3 months now.
https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/Infekt/EpidBull/Archiv/2020/Ausgaben/35_20.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
(see page 11)Must be a very strange "new outbreak". The number of Covid patients in the ICUs of German hospitals have been stagnating at a very low level (around 250 patients in the whole country) for several weeks.
https://www.divi.de/joomlatools-files/docman-files/divi-intensivregister-tagesreports/DIVI-Intensivregister_Tagesreport_2020_08_30.pdf
(look at the pink line in the bottom right diagram)Where are all the sick people that you are so worried about?
Deap , 30 August 2020 at 07:24 PMAll
What has intrigued me about the Wuhan virus is the panicked, off-the-cuff response. A pandemic is not new. We've had several in the recent past. SARS, H1N1, H2N2.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/basics/past-pandemics.html
CDC has an annual budget of $12 billion. Then there are public health budgets at NIH and other federal, state and counties.
How come there was no agreed upon pandemic response plan? If there was, why wasn't it executed? Do public health authorities have a plan now that can be executed?
It would appear to me this was a failure across all segments of society. The public because they so easily succumbed to fear. The media for fanning the flames of hysteria. Private healthcare for not providing realistic and alternative views. The government for not executing a coordinated response.
Money is never the issue in the USA. No one spends like us on healthcare, education, national security. Outcomes are a different matter altogether. Value for money is poor since there's a high "corruption" factor.
We've had many "wars". War on Poverty. War on Drugs. War on Terror. We've spent huge amounts on each. They've all been failures!
dan of steele , 30 August 2020 at 07:28 PMLaura, When you get to a certain age, everyday you wake up to most of obituaries being for people younger than yourself. It is a landmark point in one's life.
Before they were all so old. Now they are all so young. And no, they did not die "of covid". The died. Fate played out their final hand. And you ask not for whom the bells toll ............. you just praise every single blessed day that is still yours to enjoy.
182,000 did not die "of covid" in the US. CDC played games with the numbers from day one. The only mystery is why? And why did we let them do this. Because we did - Brix admitted up front on TV they tossed anyone suspected of "covid" into the covid basket.
Any screw up were not facing covid, but overkilling "covid". The leftist cabal made sure no other points of view were allowed. If a covid report did not include or imply OrangemanBad, it never reached the airwaves. Please don't have selective memory problems about any of this. Or else you have come to the wrong place to push them.
So now tell us where the new CDC data is flawed (9K deaths), and why that is justification for believing their prior data is not flawed. (182K deaths)
Deap , 30 August 2020 at 07:31 PMrho
I don't have a dog in this fight. I do hope that one day we will find out what is really going on with this covid-19. I merely look at worldofmeters corona virus page and watch the numbers of new cases, serious cases, and deaths. Those numbers were horrible for Italy for a long time and after months of being locked down hard, the numbers got better.
15 August is a very famous Italian holiday with everyone going to the beach, having picnics, and so on. Oddly enough a week to 10 days later the numbers of new cases went up...quite a bit. Happily the deaths have not gone back to the 1000 a day from the early days but I am holding my breath. In our little village we have 4 active cases and 21 in quarantine. They were infected by people who had gone on vacation somewhere else.
as for Germany, my son lives near Hamburg and he is mostly teleworking and overall they are quite good at implementing good pandemic control measures. Testing was free but I believe they are starting to charge for it again. My brother in law went to Cyprus on his vacation this year and upon return he and his family were all tested.
believe me, I don't want this crap to go on any more than you do. It does not affect me all that much as I am finally retired and have a single family home with a yard. being somewhat of a recluse anyway didn't make it worse.
Deap , 30 August 2020 at 07:44 PM"New outbreaks" that lead to herd immunity are a good thing; when the death rate remains static or declines. Which is what is happening right now.
As long as every passing day adds more very elderly with 3.5 co-morbidities to the body count, one can assume this flu is taking its normal course through this population demographics.
As it does every single year, since the flu was always previously known as "the old man's friend". Sad, of course. Any death is sad. Very sad.
For reflection on eternal life however, take a look at the Czech opera "The Makropolus Case". The diva lives for 300 years, and when it comes time to take the magic potion again that keeps her eternally alive, she muses about the trials, tribulations and practical burdens of her eternal life.......... and she finally decides to .......?????
Fred , 30 August 2020 at 08:16 PMAlways hate it when media reports a percentage increase - "twice as many cases" -- but never mentions the numbers. 2 case is twice as many as one case. Zut alors! We need new cases to finally reach herd immunity.
Cases are okay. In fact, it is relief we are finally existing outside of this artificial bubble, and at a time we now know a lot more about treatment and to stop killing people with forced ventilator abuse.
Original game plan - flatten the curve - end up with the same numbers of cases, but over a longer period time to ensure health care delivery would not be overwhelmed should they all happen at once. That was the bargain - flatten the curve, but not change the numbers infected.
When did "someone" demand we flat-line the numbers of infections, until they reach absolute zero? Who, what, where, when, how or why did that change?
Will anti-Trump riots after Trump's 2020 re-election push "covid" off the front pages?
cirsium , 30 August 2020 at 08:28 PMLaura,
How many of the 500,000 attendees at Bike Week died of this, it's been three weeks already? How about all those 'mostly peaceful' protests? (Not counting than the two who died of the AR15 virus in Kenosha)
Mark , 30 August 2020 at 08:33 PMdan of Steele - a contributory factor in the death toll in Italy might be the mandatory influenza vaccine. In the autumn/winter 2019, a super influenza vaccine (4 strains in one dose) was administered to old people and health care workers in Italy. Research suggests that influenza vaccine derived virus interference is significantly associated with coronavirus.
See https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m810/rr-0
and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/For some reason, the authorities want COVID-19 to be recognized as The New Black Death. Rising numbers of 'cases' substitute for deaths in order to keep the fear factor high (as far as I can make out) when higher case numbers are an unsurprising consequence of ramped-up testing. There are allegedly high numbers of false positives, and many if not most of the cases uncovered by testing are in people who are asymptomatic or not very sick, certainly not in danger of dying or even having to be hospitalized.
The WHO admitted publicly that the chief reason it declared a pandemic was that too many countries were - in its opinion - not taking the threat seriously enough. Therefore, even the declaration of a pandemic was for scare value. When COVID-19 was at its peak for infections and deaths, the WHO (Dr. Fauci himself, actually) claimed that medical-grade masks were not necessary for the public, because the WHO deemed it necessary to reserve the supply of masks for medical use. I don't think anyone would disagree that non-medical cloth masks have much less filtration capability. But then Fauci reversed himself, and now a plethora of 'experts' claim it is proven that non-medical cloth masks work to reduce the spread of COVID-19, and there is growing and relentless pressure from the busybody sector to make them mandatory wear in all public settings. Now, when the death rate is steadily dropping. No clinical trials have ever achieved results which demonstrate that cloth masks do anything to stop the spread of an airborne virus - not masks and only masks. Trials in which the subjects regularly washed their hands, avoided touching their faces after touching other surfaces AND wore a mask demonstrated a somewhat reduced infection rate. Tests in which only masks were used showed either a statistically insignificant difference or no difference at all, but were not proper clinical trials as the sample size was comparatively small and the masked group contained a significant number who admitted they did not wear it all the time. But forcing everyone to wear a mask has become a test of will for public authorities against a public in which many do not want to wear them and are afraid compulsory wear will become the norm. Once again, there is NO PROOF that they work, as the theory has never been properly tested, I don't care what 'expert' is telling you the results are in, and masks work.
For those 'COVID warriors' who label all dissenters 'maskholes' and 'Covidiots', cite me a proper clinical trial that establishes masks on their own significantly reduced the infection rate of an airborne virus. That means show me how uninfected people wore a mask and did not take other precautions, in the presence of an infected person (without touching them or handling objects infected people handled) and remained uninfected. While you're at it, find me where the '6-foot rule' came from. Nobody seems to know how that number was arrived upon, the WHO says it did not come from them, and how does it account for different environments such as the presence or absence of wind? People have to stand six feet apart outside while waiting to be allowed in to the grocery store. How does that protect you from an airborne virus that theoretically can only travel six feet in still air?
I am always willing to have my mind changed by actual science. But so far I am not seeing it. Just a lot of politics.
Aug 31, 2020 | www.rt.com
By Peter Andrews , Irish science journalist and writer based in London. He has a background in the life sciences, and graduated from the University of Glasgow with a degree in genetics
It's time to stop fetishizing scientific methods. We have to accept that there are many elements of Covid-19 that science may never understand and if we wait for it to do so, we will never again be able to live a normal life.
The Covid-19 outbreak is largely over, and man's attempts to slow, stop or understand the virus have failed. Science will eventually discover more about the pandemic but it is a slow process.
Science, if it is working properly, will not come to a conclusion that is wholly wrong. But not everything that is true can be established by a randomized control trial followed by peer review. Take the theory, popularized by Dr John Lee's work in the Spectator , that Covid has become less deadly as it spreads, and is now basically inert.
This would perfectly explain why so many people died of Covid-19 in a short period of time, and why deaths have basically flat-lined since April. It fits with many Covid studies confirming fast evolution , different strains and reinfection . Furthermore, a change to the virus itself could explain why the same patterns in deaths have been seen everywhere, irrespective of lockdowns, demographics, contact tracing or any other scheme.
ALSO ON RT.COM Weird science: Covid-19 does NOT cause heart damage, as blockbuster study had basic calculation errorsIn fact, with each passing day it is increasingly probable that the virus has mutated to a milder form. The trouble is it would be nigh on impossible to establish this with the instruments of science, now or any time soon. The vagaries of individual human bodies and microscopic particles are just beyond the scope of exact science.
People need to accept this about Covid (and hopefully later, much else) and stop fetishizing the scientific method at times when a bit of common sense would do the job. We are paralysed by a need for the World Health Organization or Public Health England to conjure up some peer-reviewed study or other confirming to 99.9 percent likelihood that we can go back to normal now. That will never happen, but we have to get back to normal.
Consider this article , written by three scientific minds. It is a measured and 'data driven' analysis of whether Covid is becoming less deadly. But is blinkered by an assumption that only official data, no matter how muddled, can be relied upon. All you really need to do is ask doctors whether they are seeing people come in with Covid, or if they are dying of Covid when they do. Instead it focuses on case numbers, which are not worth the paper they are written on.
Here is another paper , co-authored by the brilliant Professor Carl Heneghan of the University of Oxford's Center for Evidence-Based Medicine. He has been tireless in his questioning of the government's interpretation of coronavirus statistics, although it has taken far too long for him to be given any kind of platform from which to address the public.
The study, while no doubt accurate and valuable for establishing fine points of detail, seeks to answer whether the infection fatality ratio has been falling in the UK. A comprehensive review of the limited data suggests that it has, but so what? What does that mean to the average Joe, confused as to whether they should send their child to school in the morning, or whether it would be irresponsible to give their elderly parents a hug?
ALSO ON RT.COM Just wait for a vaccine? First confirmed REINFECTION means there may be no way to eradicate CovidSo many people have been so frightened – understandably – by exaggerated accounts of the threat posed by Covid-19, and it will take a lot to persuade them that they have been sold a pup. But they need to be persuaded, so that can get their old lives back. The present regime will never take on this responsibility because it would center on an admission of massive guilt on their part.
What is needed now from all sensible people is calm but insistent argument, with friends, relations and authorities alike, for the total abolition of all coronavirus-related restrictions. We saw some of that in London and Berlin over the weekend, and it was fantastic to see such well organized and clear minded dissent against the sinister 'new normal'.
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PATIENT OBSERVER August 26, 2020 at 2:15 pm
ATIENT OBSERVER August 26, 2020 at 2:29 pmAnd this is also ominous:
https://www.rt.com/usa/499147-justice-dept-nursing-homes-democrats/he US Justice Department is mulling civil rights investigations of four Democrat-run states whose governors forced elder care homes to take in Covid-19 patients, potentially contributing to thousands of deaths.
The governments of New York, New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania have been ordered to turn over Covid-19 data to the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division as the agency weighs whether to pursue the probes, according to a statement released on Wednesday. Investigations would be launched under the Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act (CRIPA), a law meant to protect the rights of those living in state-run nursing homes.
Likely the responses will be "We didn't know " or "How could anyone accuse us compassionate/all-caring/liberty-affirming of doing nothing but good ".
Now, there is a campaign weapon the Trump team should wield like a sledge hammer. It will be high quality protein for the us conspiracy-theory folks as well.
MARK CHAPMAN August 26, 2020 at 3:23 pmWorth quoting from the above:
All four states' Democratic governors infamously required care homes to admit patients from hospitals without testing them for Covid-19, despite knowing that the virus could – in the now-immortal words of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo – spread through the facilities "like fire through dry grass."As public outcry grew with awareness of the NY governor's order, Cuomo tried to blame virus-stricken care homes for not disobeying him and refusing Covid-19-positive patients. The order itself was even stealthily deleted from the New York healthcare website amid the outrage.
While Cuomo has tried to defend his policies by arguing New York actually had a lower percentage of deaths in nursing homes than other states, recently-released federal statistics suggest the state dramatically undercounted its care home fatalities by omitting residents who died in hospitals from the totals. While the official tally of 6,600 care home deaths is already the highest in the nation, an AP report earlier this month suggested the real number may be as much as 65 percent higher.
Per the internet, total Covid deaths in New York State is currently about 35,000. Per the above, nearly 11,000 were killed in nursing homes or in hospitals after being infected in nursing homes. Most of those were apparently in the early stages of the pandemic thus perhaps accounting for a majority of the deaths.
Per the internet, over 40% of all fatalities were related to nursing homes nation-wide.
https://www.nytimes.com/svc/oembed/html/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Finteractive%2F2020%2Fus%2Fcoronavirus-nursing-homes.html
Protect those people who comprise less than 0.4% of the population but who accounted for over 40% of the fatalities. JHC!
PATIENT OBSERVER August 26, 2020 at 3:51 pmI have to say, the behavior of governments in the COVID 'crisis' has been appalling. Formerly polite and reserved Canada is no more, and I would say it is just like America if America had not reached for new levels of bizarre that still just barely edge it out – let's settle for saying Canada is just like America was just before the COVID/BLM/pre-election frenzy of hyperbole. Check this out;
"But Ball went too far. He responded with amendments to the province's Public Health Protection and Promotion Act that looked more like something from a police state than a democracy. The new law suggested inspectors could pull people over, scroll through their cellphones, copy their private information and forcibly perform COVID-19 tests. The law made clear that if two ministers decided that a person had contravened the act, he or she could be imprisoned or expelled from the province without a hearing. The province also began barring non-Newfoundlanders from entering, contrary to the division of powers set out in the Constitution Act, 1867, and without any regard to the interprovincial mobility rights set out under Section 6 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This unconstitutional order meant that a woman who lived in Nova Scotia -- which was nearly COVID-free -- couldn't attend her mother's funeral."
The 'crisis' has encouraged people who could not be trusted to look after your cat while you're in Little Rock to assume limitless powers, to the point where jumped-up jackass 'ministers' have the power to expel you from your province if they determine you have contravened some 'Act' they just made up. If they don't look out, they'll have an armed insurrection on their hands, just like our neighbours – threatening to 'deport' people because they are suspected of spreading a virus that most people have a better than 99% chance of surviving and which global medics are trying to kill by suppression, by denying it victims. Everyone has lost their minds.
There is at the present time not a single soul in the Canadian political stable who is worth the effort of casting a ballot. Democracy is just another word for nothing left to lose. Political parties everywhere should be starved to death the way they are trying to starve the coronavirus – by waking up to find the entire electorate stayed home and not a single vote was cast. It'll never happen, because too many people are sheep and buy that 'change is coming' bullshit that accompanies every election the way flies swarm on dung. But 'democracy' has descended too deep into farce to be saved.
It has happened so fast! One must assume that there is a renewing reservoir of people with a propensity to become petty tyrants when it was safe and the opportunity was there to do so. What a profoundly sick society!
However, I will vote and vote for Trump. Heck, I might even put a Trump in 2020, 2024 and 2028 sign in my yard (although we live at the end of a dead end street so hardy anyone will see it). Why? If this country is heading for a civil war, lets get it on.
Aug 22, 2020 | www.unz.com
No Friend Of The Devil , says: August 20, 2020 at 8:48 pm GMT
One thing that is definitely Not Happening is the psychopaths in both parties, the media, the medical mafia, Wall Street, and corporations taking responsibility for their crime spree and fraud.
Now the medical community has been fully exposed to be less legitimate than crack dealers, because at least crack dealers are not pretending to cure people like the medical mafia is all based on blatant scientific fraud!
Now that these evil fraudulent psychopaths have totally destroyed the lives of hundreds of millions locking the country down resulting in people losing their businesses, jobs, homes, and apartments let Nuremburg 2 trials begin!
Aug 21, 2020 | www.unz.com
No Friend Of The Devil , says: August 20, 2020 at 8:48 pm GMT
American Citizen 2.0 , says: August 21, 2020 at 3:41 pm GMTOne thing that is definitely Not Happening is the psychopaths in both parties, the media, the medical mafia, Wall Street, and corporations taking responsibility for their crime spree and fraud.
Now the medical community has been fully exposed to be less legitimate than crack dealers, because at least crack dealers are not pretending to cure people like the medical mafia is all based on blatant scientific fraud!
@No Friend Of The Devil ree-for-all for cash where you don't even have to be a US citizen to get benefits anymore What exactly is the point of having a military other than it's just another way to spend loads of cash. I definitely wouldn't support any kind of war on behalf of "American Interests" now.We have been swamped by illegal immigrants and the government is owned by finance people. I guess we can't really stop them from using the money to pay for military stuff but the idea that any of this has any relationship to what's good or bad for "Americans" has been proven to be a complete crock of bull.
We are all basically squatters in the parking lot of a shopping mall living in RVs and eating whatever food they sell at the nearest convenience store. That's all America is for me these days.
Aug 02, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
Contrary to claims by the media and the ego maniac Dr. Fauci about a tidal wave of Covid infections, I have first hand, albeit anecdotal evidence, that there is a lot of bullshit surrounding reports of people who have "tested" positive for Covid.
Aug 01, 2020 | www.msn.com
WASHINGTON -- An investigation released Friday by House Democrats says President Donald Trump's administration overpaid by up to $500 million on ventilators as the coronavirus pandemic first struck the United States.
Click to expand 00:00 00:47 Fauci optimistic on COVID-19 vaccine availabilityIn a review of thousands of pages of internal administration documents, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee said Phillips North America was contracted to deliver 43,000 ventilators to the federal government for a significantly higher price than it did under previous contracts for functionally identical ventilator models delivered under contracts dating to President Barack Obama's administration.
© Evan Vucci, AP Images President Donald Trump speaks during a news conference at the White House."The American people got ripped off, and Donald Trump and his team got taken to the cleaners," said Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, D-Ill., whose subcommittee led the investigation. "The Trump Administration's mishandling of ventilator procurement for the nation's stockpile cost the American people dearly during the worst public health crisis of our generation."
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Democrats called for Phillips to return the amount of money they said the government was overcharged.
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Phillips denied the report's findings, saying the company did not raise prices in relation to the pandemic, and argued the increased price of the ventilators actually represented a "discount."
Frans van Houten, CEO of Royal Philips, said in a statement the company did "not recognize the conclusions in the subcommittee's report, and we believe that not all the information that we provided has been reflected in the report."
"I would like to make clear that at no occasion has Philips raised prices to benefit from the crisis situation," van Houten said.
According to Phillips, the list price of the ventilator ordered under the contract is $21,000 and was supplied to the Trump administration for $15,000, which the company called a "discount" given the rushed production schedule.
More: How ventilators work and why COVID-19 patients need them to survive coronavirus
The report, however, disagreed with Phillips' claim. A functionally identical ventilator was delivered to the Obama administration under a 2014 contract for $3,280. Based on the report's review of purchases between December 2019 and May 2020, other small purchasers, even those that purchased only one ventilator of the same model, secured them for as low as $9,327.
"No American purchaser paid more than the U.S. government," the report said.
White House Deputy Press Secretary Judd Deere told USA TODAY in a statement the report was "misleading and inaccurate."
"Because of the President's leadership, the United States leads the world in the production and acquisition of ventilators. No American who needed a ventilator was denied one, and no American who needs a ventilator in the future will be denied one."
Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson Ryan Murphy said the Trump administration's efforts ensured the "federal government procured enough equipment to care for all hospitalized patients in the United States who needed a ventilator for respiratory support related to COVID-19 infections."
Some of the ventilators ordered under the contract were already in use to treat COVID-19 patients, he added.
Murphy declined to comment on an ongoing contract, but said HHS follows "all Federal Acquisition Regulations for Strategic National Stockpile contracting efforts."
The Trump administration has frequently touted the production of ventilators as evidence of its response to the coronavirus pandemic.
"When you look at the United States response, you look at the fact that we were supposed to have a ventilator shortage. In fact, we had a ventilator surplus," White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said at a Friday briefing.
Phillips had first signed a contract with the Obama administration to deliver 100,000 ventilators in the event of a pandemic by June 2019, but the delivery date was pushed back, eventually to June 2021, as the company missed deadlines, the report said. Phillips approached the Trump administration about moving up the delivery date in January 2020, when the first coronavirus cases were reported in the United States, but the Trump administration ignored the offer, according to the report.
Then, in March 2020, the Trump administration agreed to extend the ventilator delivery deadline to September 2022, but did not ask Phillips to produce more ventilators or move up delivery times. Instead, in April 2020, the Trump administration negotiated a new contract with Phillips to deliver 43,000 ventilators at a price of $15,000 per ventilator.
According to the report's review of documents, "the Administration accepted Philips' first offer without even trying to negotiate a lower price."
According to emails released by the committee, White House trade adviser Peter Navarro, who served as the lead negotiator with Phillips, offered to prepay half of the total cost, or over $323 million, to Phillips before a single ventilator was even delivered. Department of Health and Human Services staff later reduced the amount prepaid to 10% of the total cost of the contract, or about $65 million.
This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Trump administration overspent on ventilators by as much as $500 million, Democrats' report says
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AntiSpin , Jul 30 2020 19:55 utc | 7
@ the disinformationists posting @ #1 and #2
N95 Masks DO WORK, and the Proof is Available All Over the Net!
There has been so much oh-so-earnest and so much oh-so-authoritarian nonsense bruited about on this site about the non-effectiveness of the N95 masks that it's getting really, really disgusting. It also calls into question either the honesty (trolls?) or the intelligence of those who could so easily have just looked up the information from, and about, the inventor of the N95, Dr. Peter Tsai.
If they had done just that little bit of research, they would have discovered that the N95 works because of an inner layer of plastic fiber that carries an electro-static charge that attracts and destroys the virus, and that can be cleansed and sterilized for re-use by a number of different techniques.
Please do not believe any of the contra-factual and sometimes dangerous nonsense being spewed about by people who don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Oh, and N95 masks are not all "vented to breathe straight out without filtration." Not those intended for medical use, for certain. There are some vented N95 masks that are intended for firefighters and other non-medical usages, and not for protection against viruses. And as you can see below, the electric charge attracts even sub-micron particles, so the idea that the mask cannot trap viruses because they're too small is simply more nonsense from uninformed and/or deviously motivated individuals.
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Here's just a small sample of information that's easily found all over the net:
Brief bio: Peter Tsai, Ph.D.
Employment: Research faculty, Joint Institute of Advanced Materials, The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Expertise: Development of meltblowing (MB) systems and the electrostatic charging (EC) of materials for making air filter electrets. The MB and the EC developed by Tsai have been used in the industries worldwide making tens of billions of pieces of N95 respirators or face masks. He has received three prestigious awards from UT in recognition of his contribution to technology innovation. Tsai is a Fellow Member of American Filtration and Separation Society and a member of Electrostatic Society of America.
https://utrf.tennessee.edu/information-faqs-charged-filtration-material-performance-after-various-sterilization-techniques/
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Peter Tsai and the Electrostatic Filter Mask
https://engineeringethicsblog.blogspot.com/2020/04/peter-tsai-and-electrostatic-filter-mask.html
"Prof. Tsai's innovation was to find a way to take a cold pre-fabricated mat of non-woven material and subject it to two electric discharges of opposite polarity, one after the other. Under the right conditions, this process embedded quasi-permanent electric charges into the plastic fibers and made them very attractive to even sub-micron particles, like the 100-nanometer-diameter SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19. The charge is durable and will persist even if the masks are sterilized with steam, according to a new article that Prof. Tsai just put up on a University of Tennessee website.'
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The retired inventor of N95 masks is back at work, mostly for free, to fight covid-19
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/07/07/peter-tsai-n95-mask-covid/
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More technical information for those curious enough:
https://aim.autm.net/public/project/53844///
Finally, let's dispense with a couple of other oh-so-popular misconceptions:
"Q: Do face masks cause oxygen deficiency?
"A: The prolonged use of medical masks when properly worn, does not cause oxygen deficiency nor CO2 intoxication, according to WHO. Make sure your face covering fits properly and that it is tight enough to allow you to breathe normally.
" 'This is a common misconception being perpetuated that has no evidence behind it,' said Krutika Kuppalli, a Palo Alto infectious disease doctor and a biosecurity fellow with the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security."Q: Does wearing a face covering put you at risk for carbon dioxide poisoning?
"A: No. CO2 molecules diffuse easily through everything from bandannas to medical masks to N95 respirators, allowing for normal breathing."
Aidin Vaziri. San Francisco Chronicle
uncle tungsten , Jul 30 2020 21:14 utc | 17
Peter AU1 , Jul 30 2020 21:59 utc | 23Thanks b. The mask - a simple and elegant precaution in high risk environments. But so much foaming hysteria and opposition from pumped up nay sayers its just like the response to the early motor car or the mandatory seat belt. Extraordinary, hyperventilated nonsense and inflamed debating points.
I assume this noise is to distract from calling it by its proper name - Fort Detrick Flu.
dp , Jul 30 2020 21:59 utc | 24Yankistan IQ
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/louie-gohmert-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-donald-trump/12506114
""It's really ironic, because a lot of people have made a big deal out of my not wearing a mask a lot. But in the last week or two, I have worn a mask more than I have in the whole last four months."Mr Gohmert then wondered if his mask was to blame for contracting COVID-19.
"But I can't help but wonder if my keeping a mask on and keeping it in place, that if I might have put some germs or some of the virus onto the mask and breathed it in -- I don't know. But I got it, we'll see what happens from here, but the reports of my demise are very premature," he said."
The 'mask'.
https://am23.mediaite.com/tms/cnt/uploads/2020/07/louie-gohmert-mask-coronavirus-positive.jpgJohn Iacovelli , Jul 30 2020 22:03 utc | 25about a decade ago there was outbreak of TB in Seattle I was a nurse at the time. We were told by infection disease at the time if we were to see TB patients we had to wear an individually fitted respirator... every nurse was fitted and red pepper was sprayed around the masks to test the fit. I couldn't wear one ... and was told I could wear a surgical mask but that it would only provide about 30 min of protection and then I would need a new mask... Now tell me why me way a fashion mask, a bandanna or scarf can protect me or another from a virus (which is much smaller than a TB bacteria?
I just drove from coast to coast across the US. I avoided large cities and felt perfectly comfortable with social distancing. I was in two states that never had a "true" lock down and no mask mandates,,,, and you know what people weren't dropping like flies, people weren't afraid... they were just acting respectful to one another"s personal space.Lurk , Jul 30 2020 22:24 utc | 29Let's see now... we have an aerosolized pathogen; shades of the discussion in 2001 regarding weaponized Antrax! We have, seemingly, a very low number of mutations; it's either been out there or cultured for some time. No one has any 100% accurate test; the test criteria of Koch's Postulates seem to have been forgotten or ignored. In the dearth of trustworthy data, the deluge of untrustworthy data, and the general level of greed-generated-mistrust towards all western societal organizations, no one in the general public has the proper knowledge to make life-or-death decisions concerning themselves or their families. Perhaps, rather than the "Trump flu" that the partisan-oriented commenter proposed previously, if a large group of people called it instead the "Fort Detrick Flu," western governments might be persuaded to seek and/or spread truthful data.
Roberto , Jul 30 2020 23:19 utc | 34@ dp | Jul 30 2020 21:59 utc | 24
The purpose of the mask is to stop (asymptomatic) carriers of the disease from spreading it, or at least dramatically reduce the spreading. The mask limits outgoing aerosols, not incoming ones.
Moreover, rural areas where people spend a lot of time outdoors and generally meet only a limited amount of different people are much less likely to be affected by the initial phase of a pandemic than densely populated cities where most people spend most of their days closely packed with numerous other random people in badly ventilated indoor places such as offices, factories, subways.
Dear friends and foes,
on "benefits" of masking:
1) https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-020-01704-y
2) https://fortune.com/2020/07/29/no-point-in-wearing-mask-sweden-covid/
3) Belarus no mask no lockdown....then they get very nice numbers.On panic:
On lockdown:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490659-ferguson-undermined-uk-lockdown/
Best regards to you all
Un gran abrazo a todos desde Chile
Jul 27, 2020 | www.msn.com
During an in-depth interview that will air Tuesday night on ABC News as part of a primetime special, "American Catastrophe: How Did We Get Here?," Fauci was pressed to explain why, months after COVID-19 first reached U.S. soil, the U.S. government is still struggling to provide adequate testing for Americans and sufficient personal protective gear for essential workers.
"We keep hearing when we go to these task force meetings that these [issues] are being corrected," Fauci said. "But yet when you go into the trenches, you still hear about that."
Fauci said he does not have a "good answer" and "cannot explain" the discrepancy, especially since those matters are not part of his "day-by-day" responsibilities, but part of the problem stems from the fact that "many of the things that we needed were not produced in the United States."
The U.S. government ended up competing for those materials with other nations stricken by the pandemic, and the White House ultimately had to invoke emergency powers to push U.S. companies to help.
Those challenges were exacerbated by what Fauci admitted were early missteps on testing by the Centers for Disease Control, which developed tests that "didn't work" initially because – it turned out – their results were based on potentially contaminated samples. That forced the federal government to further rely private companies.
Asked about any missteps he may have made himself – including initially telling the public that the average American didn't need to wear a mask – he said such decisions were "based on the information at the moment."
Jul 26, 2020 | www.rt.com
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Jul 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Richard Steven Hack , Jul 20 2020 4:06 utc | 64
@ james | Jul 19 2020 18:35 utc | 20 they are designed to breathe out freely
That is only the *valved* masks. Non-valved medical masks do not breath out freely. See here.
More factual information from 3M here: (PDF).
The real problem is masks that don't measure up. This article says half of the masks manufactured in China don't actually capture 95% of particles. Since all of my masks are from China, that is concerning to me. However, even if a mask only does 50%, that's still better than most non-respirator masks.
As for health issues from wearing masks... here's the scoop on that. In short - no, they don't.
Further">https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/whats-the-difference-between-n95-and-kn95-masks/">Further discussion on Chinese KN95 masks - *if made properly*, they are just as good as American N95 masks.
The Smart Air company has a number of good articles on masks for use with the pandemic. I recommend reading them.
Jul 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
willie , Jul 20 2020 7:20 utc | 86
Mask-wearing obligatory in confined public spaces in France from today .Initially announced by Macron in his july 14th speech for the first of August,but over the weekend Health minister said it is in application from this monday 2 july.Fine is 135 euros.This will lead to more gigs cancelled,unless they are in the street.How can one sing masked?
Well,I tried wearing one saturday,but it is a sloppy experience and I don't think I will wear one correctly,it hangs down from my nose,it is to escape french fines.Before people start insulting me for that,i have to tell you that I see practically nobody,apart from going to supermarket once a week....Richard Steven Hack , Jul 20 2020 3:27 utc | 60
@ Perimetr | Jul 19 2020 17:09 utc | 10
I pointed out that cloth masks were ineffective relative to N95 months ago here. The hierarchy is N100, N99, N95, surgical masks, then anything else. There is a reduction of maybe 25% in effectiveness per level (except for the N masks.) T-shirts are almost useless, having an effectiveness of maybe 10-15%.
*Doesn't mean they shouldn't be worn.*
People don't seem to understand that avoiding infection is a game of probabilities. It's not a binary either-or situation. Anything you can do to impede the progress of a viral load from the environment to your vulnerable surfaces is worth doing if it's practical. Wearing a mask is practical.
Minor repeated reductions in oxygen or increases in carbon dioxide is not going to kill you and is unlikely to have long-term physical effects. And there's a good chance that eventually we'll stop wearing them once the virus has been reduced in the environment.
Asians have been wearing masks frequently for a long time. Health workers wear masks frequently for extended periods. Cite a study where that has had long-term negative health effects.
Jul 21, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
The COVID-19 peak death rate occurred the week of April 11- 18
"But there is a graph here that if I explain this properly, it'll make sense to you. This is from the Centers for Disease Control. And it is death counts attributable to COVID-19 through July 11th. The week ending July 11th, which is the most recent date for data. They run about, you know, a week to two weeks behind here.
So throw the chart up. This is by age. All sexes by age. So if you look at the top line, the red line, the very top, that is the week ending April 11th. You can't see this on the chart. Go ahead and put the chart up there, Brian, switch it over. The top line is red. You can't even probably tell that. But, trust me. The top-most line is red, and it occurs on April the 11th. That is the peak death rate, and it's probably about 6,000 . I don't know in what interval that this thing is reporting.
Probably Eh, it's in a week. The key is to go all the way over to the right side. You see the peak of death rates was April the 11th. It isn't now. The peak death rate was April 11. That red line is people 85 years and older. The line under it is people 75 to 84. That's the yellow line. The blue line underneath that is people 65 to 74. We're under 4,000 now in a week. So the top line is people 85 and older.
If you go to the This is where I'm not gonna There are two reds, but you can't tell the difference in them. Just trust me. Let's move to the far-right side of the chart. That's July 11th, and you'll see that the death rate is not even 500, right now, per week -- CDC -- in all ages, in all demographics, says the CDC. We're not at peak death rate. The peak death rate was April the 11th to April the 18th." Limbaugh
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But, what would Fauci say? pl
scott s. | 21 July 2020 at 11:05 AM
I see now we are being encouraged to ignore "death rate" as unimportant. What we are told to panic about is a higher incidence of "positives" among population under 40 years of age. This population apparently doesn't have as bad an outcome (hospitalization/death) and that's "bad" because they don't get contact traced and thus have "community spread".
I just love how AP/NYT and local journos all quote seemingly random "experts" with no discussion of just what their "expertise" consists of, other than perhaps a credential (and the relevance of the credential to the "expert statement" (more correctly opinion) is never provided).
At least Fauci has some standing.
Eric Newhill | 21 July 2020 at 11:18 AM
Sir,
Yes. You are thinking right about Cuomo murdering the elderly that cost the state so much money - many having the homes and medical treatment paid for by Medicaid (Medicare only pays for 30 days). Only it wasn't just Cuomo it was also Witmer in Michigan and Murphy in New Jersey. They killed off the costly elderly and got the bonus of more deaths to raise the fear of the virus and gain subsequent control over the lives of citizens + via twisted logic, try to give Trump a black eye. Those govs are are morally sick people. It is a no brainer, if you care about the elderly, to not place people with what you believe is a deadly highly contagious virus in homes full of elderly infirm people. I mean what is there to even consider or weigh about that decision?Had those murderers handled the nursing homes correctly (like Florida did) the virus would have been a lot less deadly.
Btw, with regard to schools re-opening, note that the line of the graph for school and college age people is basically synonymous with the X-axis; meaning they didn't die from the virus even at its peak lethality.
Jim | 21 July 2020 at 02:47 PM
To know what Fauci [don't wear a mask it don't help; wear a mask it helps] would say, let's look at how Aristotle would help us elucidate this answer.
Q: What can one conclude from [the mouth of] the liar [Fauci]?
A: Answer: nothing
Absolutely Nothing.
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And on this basis, from his mouth, our national "pandemic" "strategy" was thus formulated, from Mr. Nothing aka Fauci.And onto more black humor, and the wearing a mask as virtue signalling -- since they can only slow down by at most ten minutes any disease transmission of the novel coronvirus, there is this "gem" spoken by someone who apparently believes the mask kool aid? I D K . . . --and for me at least, his essay, Attorney Jonathan Turley, was funny to read, irrespective of whether that was his intent:
[[There is a new form of protests sweeping across the country as individuals put on anti-Mask masks to defy mandatory mask rules. The anti-masks are made of thin material, mesh or even crochet and are advertised as having no protective qualities for Covid-19. The question is whether they are legal. They appear to be so.]]
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/18/are-anti-mask-masks-legal/
Jul 21, 2020 | www.msn.com
WASHINGTON -- Dr. Anthony Fauci on Monday rejected President Donald Trump's recent criticism of him in which he called the infectious disease expert an "alarmist."
... Fauci warned last week that the coronavirus pandemic could be as bad as the 1918 flu pandemic, which is estimated to have killed at least 50 million people worldwide. He also warned late last month that the number of COVID-19 cases could top 100,000 a day.
Jul 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Blue Dotterel , Jul 20 2020 9:13 utc | 96
For anyone who has forgotten, Fauci told 60 Minutes that:
There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think it is. And often there are unintended consequences – people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
But he does make an astute point:
"Recently I had the poor judgment to turn on National Public Radio for about an hour, under the impression that I was going to learn something about the day’s news.
...
No – for a solid hour, I heard the following: that COVID19 – in reality, at most, a moderately serious flu virus – is the worst medical threat the United States has ever faced.
...
But the real theme of the hour was masks, masks, masks: how to make them, how to wear them, their different types, who doesn’t seem to have enough of them, and why muffling our faces (even though no such thing was ever demanded of us during dozens of past viral outbreaks) is absolutely, positively good for us all."
Jul 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Stockman: The Clown Cars Are Fully Loaded And Dr. Fauci's Is Leading The Parade by Tyler Durden Sat, 07/18/2020 - 11:30 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print
Authored by David Stockman via Contra Corner blog,
When it comes to the topic of clown cars, we'd say Dr. Fauci gets a limo version all to himself...
Yesterday he uttered the following incoherent babble, saying the recent surge in new cases is because the Virus Patrol didn't go far enough in throwing 50 million Americans out of work:
https://imasdk.googleapis.com/js/core/bridge3.396.0_en.html#goog_1530023478
'We did not shut down entirely,' Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said. 'We need to draw back a few yards and say, "OK, we can't stay shut down forever." You've got to shut down but then you've got to gradually open.'
Got that?
What does this pretentious old windbag think - that the blooming, buzzing mass of a $21 trillion economy can be calibrated up and down by the week via some magical dimmer switch?
Never mind because he was then on to this preposterous comparison:
Fauci also said he expects the public to compare the Covid-19 pandemic to the 1918 pandemic flu, which killed around 50 million people, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Well, it so happens that the US death rate from the Spanish Flu was 655 per 100,000 persons (675,000 deaths in a population of 103 million). That's obviously orders of magnitude larger than the 39 per 100,000 deaths to date from the Covid.
In fact, the impact of the Spanish Flu was not only 17X greater in terms of the overall mortality rate, but it was also a true Grim Reaper in the sense that it struck across the entire age spectrum of the population (dark blue bars).
It actually started in the giant domestic military training compounds stood up by Woodrow Wilson to join a European war that was none of America's business, but the virus did kill tens of thousands of 18-30 year-old draftees in their own barracks long before they got to the killing fields of France.
By contrast, as we now surely understand, and you would think Fauci would, too, the Covid (light blue bars) is primarily a harvester of elderly persons already struggling with life-threatening respiratory, heart, vascular, renal and diabetic illnesses.
Accordingly, among the 191 million Americans under the age of 45 years, there have been only 1.5 WITH-Covid deaths per 100,000, while for the elderly, the opposite is true. Nearly 70,000 or more than 60 percent of all WITH-Covid death have been among the 75 years and older population, resulting in mortality rates as follows:
85 years & Over: 581 per 100,000 persons;
75-84 years: 200 per 100,000 persons;
Now, you don't need to take a single class in epidemiology to understand a core truth: That is, when nearly 60 percent of the population under 45 years accounts for only 2.5 percent of the reported WITH-Covid deaths and has a rounding error mortality rate, while the 6.5 percent of the population 75 years and older accounts for 60 percent of the deaths -- you don't fight the disease with a one-size-fits all strategy of generic lockdowns, quarantines, and social regimentation.
And surely you don't shutdown the schools, gyms, bars, restaurants, movies, ball games, concerts, beaches, theme parks etc. because the vulnerable elderly don't patronize these venues in appreciable numbers anyway, and could easily be warned to stay strictly away.
The key point, however, is that this whole unspeakable Lockdown Folly does not remotely stem from the "science", as the MSM supporters of Fauci claim.
It's just a hair-brained experiment in social control that happened because the Donald was too weak, ill-informed, distracted, and innumerate to send Fauci and his camarilla of doctors and vaccine-peddlers packing when the mid-March guidelines were first issued by the CDC.
Yes, the Donald's political enemies in the ranks of big city mayors and Blue State governors have feasted upon the chum Fauci & Co have persistently tossed into the fetid waters of national politics, but that doesn't let Trump off the hook.
If the truth be told, this is the Trump Lockdown Folly and ranks among the greatest blunders ever committed by a US President. That's because even at this late date nearly four months into the resulting economic disaster:
there is no evidence that asymptomatic persons are transmitters of the virus,
there is powerful statistical evidence that 95 percent of the population can cope with the disease and recover if they do become infected.
Yet, the twin pillars of Fauci's hare-brained social regimentation scheme assumes they very opposite: Namely, that healthy Americans must be put under house arrest because they are silent spreaders and killers of their fellow citizens; and that the disease is so virulent that its #1 enemy -- the powerful immune system of every healthy American -- cannot be trusted to do its job if the virus is permitted to follow its natural course of contagion and eventual herd immunity.
As to the silent spreaders trope, here is how the very head of WHO's COVID-19 Task Force, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, recently explained that transmission of the virus from asymptomatic patients appears to be very rare:
It still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual."
For crying out loud. That knocks the very rationale for stay-at-home orders to hundreds of millions of healthy citizens into a cocked hat.
In a constitutional democracy, where the liberties and properties of citizens are protected by law, you need overwhelming proof of an existential threat to society before ordering mass house arrests. But in this instance, the head of the WHO task force–the agency that fomented the whole coronavirus hysteria in the first place–has said quite unequivocally: No cigar!
In a word, Dr. Fauci is peddling dangerous humbug under the banner of pseudo-science, and should have been shut-up and forced into retirement long ago. The unfortunate truth, however, is that the Donald is too chicken to use the Fake "your fired" tool that made him a short-lived TV star, if not a successful businessman.
His defenders, of course, mumble that his hands are tied because Fauci is a member of the legally protected Senior Executive Service (SES). That's Jimmy Carter's gift to insubordinate bureaucracy, which your editor happily voted against back in the day -- but the excuse is poppycock.
Under Federal law, Fauci can be fired if he is found to have engaged in --
misconduct, neglect of duty, malfeasance, or failure to accept a direct reassignment or to accompany a position in a transfer of function", is or to be "less than successful [in his] executive performance.
If not "malfeasance", what would you call the absolute savaging of the livelihoods and life's work of tens of millions of American workers and small businessmen for no good reason of state, which have resulted from Fauci's idiotic pronouncements and guidelines?
The thing is, after four months Fauci's blatherings and instructions to state and local authorities have fomented an outright public Hysteria of biblical proportions.
It is not just that officialdom has closed restaurants and gyms via unconstitutional "takings" of their owners' properties. By now, Fauci's Virus Patrol and its megaphones and misanthropes in the MSM have rendered large portions of the American public fearful about leaving their own homes.
And, needless to say, they have also given the Donald's legions of rabid political enemies license to stage malign theatrics in the name of Covid-fighting that would be unthinkable under any other circumstances.
For instance, it has now been announced that the school districts of Los Angeles and San Diego, which collectively serve nearly one million students, will not have in-person teaching to start the school year.
But if you are conversant with any facts at all, you can only sputter: WTF!
There are nine million school age children in California, and not a single WITH-Covid death has occurred among them.
That's right. There have been 27,400 positive tests among these nine million kids, but all of them, positively all of them, have been either asymptomatic or mildly ill -- as children are wont to become -- and have recovered.
Yet here is where America's growing fleet of clown cars comes in. It seems that the politicization has gone so far off the deep end that the LA teachers union–35,000 strong -- is now taking the schools hostage for their own parochial ends.
They recently proclaimed that no schools should open in LA until there is a Charter School freeze; the police are defunded; Medicare-for-all is adopted by the US Congress; new state taxes on the wealthy are enacted; and there is a Federal bailout of the LA school district.
You can't make this stuff up. And while they were taking the children hostage in the name of Covid-fighting, they also insisted that the already dysfunctional schools of LA become completely pointless:
The union outlined numerous major provisions it says will be necessary to reopen schools again, including sequestering students in small groups throughout the school day, providing students with masks and other forms of protective equipment, and re-designing school layouts in order to facilitate 'social distancing.'
Of course, the latest outbursts of this kind of mindless social destruction has been fueled by the absolute mendacity of the Virus Patrol and its MSM megaphones with respect to the so-called outbreak of new cases in the Sun Belt states.
But the whole brouhaha is a crock. There is no public health crisis in the so-called hot spots, as the up-to-date chart below makes abundantly clear.
Yes, the 42-day trend of "new cases" has risen sharply in tandem with far more testing, and repeat testing of the same individuals -- outcomes that were inherent in re-opening plans, which required employers to have their employees tested as a condition of operating.
But, alas, the death count trend in these 50 counties has not risen at all - except for the last few days when a lot of "catch-up" data for earlier fatalities was thrown into the data hoppers by some of the counties involved.
That hasn't stopped the Covid-Howlers from proclaiming a phony medical crisis in Texas and elsewhere, with the same old tropes about overflowing hospitals and strained ICU capacity in places like Houston.
But as the eagle-eyed maven of the corona-data, Alex Berenson, tweeted this AM, it's just a big fat lie. While CNN may have managed to find one or two crowded facilities in the whole of the Houston-Harris county region of some 5 million souls, there are actually still more than 2,500 empty hospital beds in the area.
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Here's the thing. The Virus Patrol has switched from the death count to the "case" count because the latter is not at the 3,000 per day predicted by the CDC in early May, and ballyhooed by the NYT and MSM as the leading edge of a horrid "second wave" coming down the pike.
In fact, during July to date (thru the 14th), the daily WITH-Covid death count has averaged 613, or only one-fifth of the projected June-July-August surge; and even that level is suspect, given the growing evidence that many local jurisdictions are doing retrospective death audits to pad their case counts.
In any event, the readily available state-by-state data tells you all you need to know. This so-called Sun Belt wave of cases is, indeed, the equivalent of the normal flu.
In the case of Florida, for instance, during the first 14 days of July, there have been 139,195 new cases reported, but only 4,322 new hospitalizations. So that means only 3.1 percent of this ballyhooed surge of cases was sick enough to even require hospitalization.
Needless to say, that's not a crisis; it's just one more part of the indictment against Fauci and his gang of malpracticing doctors. They have put the anti-Trump press into a rabid feeding frenzy, and that coverage, in turn, has caused the American public to head back into their Covid holes.
As it happened, three of the nation's largest banks reported their totally confected earnings for Q2 this AM, but the one thing that stood out as meaningful was a collective $28 billion provision for future loan losses. That is, they see the massive wave of defaults set in motion by Fauci's misbegotten Lockdown Nation strategy, and are getting prepared for the worst.
Meanwhile, the Fed's lunatic $3 trillion injection of liquidity into the canyons of Wall Street since the Lockdown Nation incepted in mid-March continues to do its mischief, fueling a stock market bubble that gets more ludicrous (and dangerous) by the day.
We noted yesterday that during the Monday's great reversal on the stock market that Tesla had gained a "GM" ($38 billion) in the morning spike, but lost a "BMW" ($42 billion) in the afternoon.
A timely piece by Bloomberg this AM helps explain how this kind of madness actually happened:
Almost 40,000 Robinhood accounts added shares of the automaker during a single fourhour span on Monday, according to website Robintrack.net, which compiles data on the investing platform that's much beloved by day trading millennials.
The frenzy in interest means that as of the end of Monday's trading session, there are now roughly 457,000 users on the Robinhood app that hold shares of the company in some form. That makes it the 10th-most popular stock on the platform, ahead of even Amazon.com Inc., which is held by 358,000 users.
The one-day return may not have turned out so well. Tesla was up as much as 16 percent at one point before paring gains through the day and finishing 3 percent lower. It was a rare losing day for the high flying stock, which has surged 56 percent over the past 10 days.
So how did these mindless gamblers reason about a company that has never, ever made a four-quarter profit, and which reported Q2 volumes well below last year, in coming to a peak valuation of $325 billion Monday morning?
Well, a sell-side analyst explained both that question, and the large fleet of clown cars now cruising up and down Wall Street about as well as could be expected. Said this master of the crystal ball:
'At the current price, Tesla's stock reflects an expectation of 2030 volume of 5 million units, which is more than ten times what the company appears on track to achieve this year,' Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said.
Why, you don't say!
Then again, projecting EV car sales in the year 2030 is probably as good a use for Wall Street's clown car riders as any other.
Certainly, it would not dawn on them to ask whether a stock market held up by the Terrific Ten, and especially the FAANGs and Microsoft, has anything at all to do with the dire state of the US economy.
It seems these trading sardines make up a quarter of the S&P 500 index by value, but just 8 percent of its composite revenues and a mere 1 percent of jobs in the American workforce.
So, yes, the Acela Corridor has the clown cars coming and going - even as the stock bubble which will take down this whole fantasy reaches its historic asymptote, as we will essay further in Part 3.
Jul 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Record Number Of Americans Died From Drug Overdoses In 2019 As Fentanyl Moved West
Nearly 71,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year...
Soaring overdose deaths in the US have helped drag down average life expectancy for 3 straight years, and by the looks of it, No. 4 might be right around the corner.
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sbin , 1 hour ago
Lucius Quinctius , 1 hour agoSt Floyd died of an overdose.
2 years of drug overdose killed as many Americans as plandemic.
Work for funeral homes many more overdose and suicide deaths 20 to 40 year olds than covid +70 and most were already dead but still breathing and making nursing home money.
MerLynn , 1 hour agoThe Chinese have a legitimate grievance ,(actually several), with regards to the deliberate introduction of opium into their country by the British, in the 1800 s,as a means to repatriate sterling used to pay for tea .Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank,(HSBC),very central to funding this traffic as well as a Jewish-British banking family, the Sassoons, originally from Baghdad ,directly involved.The immiseration of millions of Chinese in opium addiction as well as the failed Chinese attempt To free themselves from this in the Opium Wars has left them bitter,rightfully.
So, introducing fentanyl to the west is payback. Two years ago I looked up on Alibaba ,out of curiosity ,the cost , quantity and availability of a common antibiotic, Vancomycin. It was amazing, at least 30 responses, producing in quantity, hundreds of kilograms, cheap ....,,you want it when? The Chinese pharmaceutical production capacity is enormous. Fentanyl is no problem to produce in huge quantity for these folks. They, in their minds, have reason to send it our way. We are at war.
Sid Davis , 1 hour agoyes its a Bio Chemical War.... and all Bio Weapons come from the Barrel of a Needle
If you are free, that means you can make good choices for yourself and bad ones, too.
When you are a slave on the big government run plantation we call the USA, pain from being subjugated encourages escape, and since the underground market in drugs is one of the few remaining free markets, you still have the freedom there to make bad choices.
It isn't much solace to those you leave behind that you managed to permanently escape your pain.
Jul 17, 2020 | off-guardian.org
kevin , Jul 16, 2020 10:44 PM
Off topic, but yesterday on Newsmax network in the US the guest COMPLETELY ripped into Gates and Fauci. Newsmax is a major conservative media outlet that has both a TV network and website with millions of viewers/readers. You can watch it here:
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1283315374025515008
Jul 15, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
"And when Fauci was telling the White House Coronavirus Task Force that there was only anecdotal evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine to fight the virus, I confronted him with scientific studies providing evidence of safety and efficacy. A recent Detroit hospital study showed a 50% reduction in the mortality rate when the medicine is used in early treatment.
Now Fauci says a falling mortality rate doesn't matter when it is the single most important statistic to help guide the pace of our economic reopening. The lower the mortality rate, the faster and more we can open." Navarro in USA Today
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"Laputa's population consists mainly of an educated elite, who are fond of mathematics, astronomy , music and technology, but fail to make practical use of their knowledge. Servants make up the rest of the population.
The Laputans have mastered magnetic levitation. They also are very fond of astronomy, and discovered two moons of Mars. (This is 151 years earlier than the recognized discovery of the two moons of Mars by Asaph Hall in 1877.) However, they are unable to construct well-designed clothing or buildings, as they despise practical geometry as "vulgar and mechanick". The houses are ill-built, lacking any right angles, [6] and the clothes of Laputans, which are decorated with astrological symbols and musical figures, do not fit, as they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures . [7] They spend their time listening to the music of the spheres. They believe in astrology and worry constantly that the sun will go out." wiki on Gullivers Travels.
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Ah, I see it now! Dr. Fauci is a Laputan seer! He is devoid of any real comprehension or respect for the ordinary humans trying to deal with actual pandemic problems rather than "the music of the spheres."
Is he a Democratic Party operative? I doubt it. He is simply "out of it." pl
nbsp; Mike46 , 15 July 2020 at 12:40 PMThe first thing that should popped up like a red flag that Fauci was a few bricks of a shy load upstairs, was his 'luv' for Hillary.
From 2013:https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/sketchy-fauci-2.jpg
Mark K Logan , 15 July 2020 at 12:47 PMFauci doesn't matter. Over the weekend the WH tried to strongarm parents to get on board with school reopening. They are fucking with the wrong interest group.
Terence Gore , 15 July 2020 at 02:07 PMThere is a better, albeit a more difficult way to undermine Fauci. Educate the people that this issue has vast economic consequences and we must factor in those consequences when crafting an over-all policy. Fauci, I expect, will openly admit he is approaching the topic from a purely medical perspective...which is exactly what he's supposed to be doing.
As is, Trump is leaves himself wide open to the obvious counter: Neither he nor his economic adviser have any medical expertise.
Trump may be trapped in a zero-sum game mindset.
"Tony Fauci has many, many vaccine patents and there's one vaccine patent that he has that is a way of packaging a coronavirus with some other vaccine in a protein sheet and then delivering it through a vaccine he somehow ended up owning that patent Tony Fauci will be able to cash in . So Fauci's agency will collect half the royalties for that vaccine [related to the coronavirus]."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4-DMKNT7xI
The founding of moderna on mrna medicine. At end of video talks about analogy of climbing Mt Everest and needed to have 1 big investor
"Sunderland co-founded the VC firm, known for making ambitious investments, after having led program-related investments for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which provided financial support to Moderna while she was there. Since 2010, Moderna has been working on developing messenger RNA (mRNA) that allows the body's cells to act like reprogrammed biological factories, producing antibodies needed to battle diseases, including viruses.
"The nice thing about big bets is that they play out over time. ... We made an investment five years ago in Moderna, and mRNA was a big bet, and you see it playing out in terms of their ability to get a rapid vaccine for Covid. ... You have to take those big bets," Sunderland said."
Fauci interview
"The other thing that is amazing in its evolution is the amount that we've learned about HIV pathogenesis, the reservoir, the potential for controlling the virus, either in the absence of antiretroviral [treatment] or in a modified regimen that takes away the need to have a single pill or multiple pills every single day. The thing that remains the holy grail of unaccomplished goals is the development of a highly effective, safe vaccine. And that is something that's not surprising because of the very special situation with HIV, that the body -- as much as we study pathogenesis and understand it so incredibly well -- the body does not make an adequate immune response against HIV, which is the reason why no one has yet spontaneously cleared the virus by their immune system. And so what we need to do, and where we're combination putting a lot of effort into, but also struggling with, is the issue of the development of a vaccine that would be effective enough to be able to be deployed.
We have one situation that took place, well after that meeting in San Francisco, where a trial of a candidate vaccine -- in a trial named RV 144 that took place in Thailand -- showed a 31% efficacy, which gave us some great hints of correlates of immunity and are the basis for a number of subsequent trials, but still was not good enough to deploy. So we have a number of very large vaccine trials, going on now throughout the world, including a heavy concentration in southern Africa. But we also are pursuing another line of vaccine research, which is the attempt to present to the body, in the proper conformation with sequential immunizations, the capability of making broadly neutralizing antibodies. And if we're successful in that, then I think we have a really good chance of developing a vaccine that would have an efficacy and safety profile good enough to actually deploy it."
I think over time mrna "vaccines" will change medicine. Are we opening Pandora's box? Possibly.
Jul 15, 2020 | www.msn.com
Navarro wrote in the op-ed for USA TODAY Tuesday that "Fauci has a good bedside manner with the public, but he has been wrong about everything I have interacted with him on."
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The White House's deputy chief of staff for communications, Dan Scavino, who has been by the president's side since the 2016 campaign, on Sunday posted a cartoon on Facebook depicting Fauci as a running faucet washing the U.S. economy down the drain.
"Sorry, Dr. Faucet! At least you know if I'm going to disagree with a colleague, such as yourself, it's done publicly -- and not cowardly, behind journalists with leaks. See you tomorrow!" Scavino wrote in a caption accompanying the cartoon.
Jul 06, 2020 | www.unz.com
obwandiyag , says: June 29, 2020 at 5:06 pm GMT
People who don't wear masks are assholes and deserve everything they get.
Ask Talib about masks. He is smarter than either you or this guy.
https://medium.com/incerto/the-masks-masquerade-7de897b517b7
Jul 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Trailer Trash , Jul 5 2020 18:03 utc | 24
>But media - and USA health officials - have been silent about long-term effects of SARS-COV-2
I find it a very cruel irony that Fauci of all people is in charge of the virus non-response. He was a boat-anchor at NIH during the initial response to the AIDS crisis. He has been instrumental in wrecking the NIH research program for ME. For example, he kicked the ME research program out of his institute in Oct 1999:
"Dr. Anthony Fauci, NIAID Director, met with the Dr. Harold Varmus, Director of NIH, and concluded that CFS was more complex and activities should be relocated from a single NIH institute." (CFSAC minutes Sept 2003)The NIH research program has been in limbo ever since, subject to an unworkable multi-institute something-or-other designed to make sure no one has authority or responsibility to actually do something.
Fauci will soon be working overtime together with the UK psychobabblers to discredit the personal reports of the COVID Longhaulers. They will be diagnosed with "stress" and given a course of "computerized" CBT, which will tell them to ignore symptoms and carry on, until they collapse.
When patients don't come back, doctors always assume they got better. Honest to god, doctors have said that to me. It does not occur to them that patients get too sick to go to the clinic, or they got tired of being fobbed off.
Jul 03, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
"A Henry Ford Health System study shows the controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine helps lower the death rate of COVID-19 patients, the Detroit-based health system said Thursday.
Officials with the Michigan health system said the study found the drug "significantly" decreased the death rate of patients involved in the analysis.
The study analyzed 2,541 patients hospitalized among the system's six hospitals between March 10 and May 2 and found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine died while 26% of those who did not receive the drug died.
Among all patients in the study, there was an overall in-hospital mortality rate of 18%, and many who died had underlying conditions that put them at greater risk, according to Henry Ford Health System. Globally, the mortality rate for hospitalized patients is between 10% and 30%, and it's 58% among those in the intensive care unit or on a ventilator." Detroit News
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No comment needed. pl
Fred , 03 July 2020 at 11:38 AM
John Credulous , 03 July 2020 at 01:06 PMI agree, no comment is needed. Some charges for medical malpractice and malfeasance certainly are.
BillWade` , 03 July 2020 at 01:09 PMFred,
There will be no accountability: The b-stards have set the standards.
- https://www.bcazlaw.com/surgical-mishaps/
Medical malpractice is a legal term used to describe a medical professional's failing to uphold the acceptable standard of care in a situation. Doctors must adhere to accepted medical community standards concerning treatment methods and technique, and failing to do so can leave them liable for any resulting damages.- https://www.lynchlawyers.com/blog/hospital-medical-malpractice/
When a patient is under a hospitals care, the facility must operate at a level that meets the medical community's standards for treating patients. This means the hospital or its staff members cannot cause the patient harm as a result of negligence.- https://www.fortheinjured.com/blog/common-medical-errors/
When a doctor or medical facility's failure to meet these standards results in a patient's injury or death, the at-fault party can be held liable for medical malpractice .- https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/map/TheCommunityStandard.html
The community standard is the older standard and reflects the traditional deference of the law toward physicians. It is based on what physicians as a group do in a given circumstance. The community standard requires that the patient be told what other physicians in the same community would tell a patient in the same or similar circumstances. "Community" refers both to the geographic community and to the specialty (intellectual community) of the physician.A long "take down" of Fauci: https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_ken-mccarthy-tony-fauci-is-corrupt-to-the-core/
- It'll be 37 years this year he's had the same job in the federal bureaucracy.
- There are two million people getting a paycheck from the federal government as employees. Who do you think the third highest paid employee in the entire federal bureaucracy is? It's Tony Fauci.
- So just to sum all this up: This is not Fauci's first rodeo. He's been pumping hysteria for 36 years. He always gets it wrong. He was wrong about swine flu. He was wrong about bird flu. He was wrong about Zika. He was wrong about Ebola. He wildly exaggerated AIDS. And he always is wrong in the favor of pharmaceutical companies. And he's always wrong in favor of 'we've got to develop a vaccine now. We have to throw out all the rules.
- And his wife is Christine Grady, chief of the Department of Bioethics of the National Institute of Health and the head of the section on Human Subject Research. She is the person that makes decisions on what's ethical to do with human subjects. That's his wife.
Deap , 03 July 2020 at 01:54 PMDamn it, it's too cheap!
jonst , 03 July 2020 at 01:56 PMUncharted research: areas where anti-malarial drugs are sold widely over the counter - in malaria prone parts of the world - eg: Central America, SEA and Pacific Islands. How do their covid rates relate to these specific localities (not just generalized country numbers), where ongoing prophylactic sales of OTC anti-malaria drugs are most prevalent?
Why does the CDC travel and tourism website info still recommend taking anti-malarial drugs, when the other hand of our deep state bureaucrats are screaming these drugs will kill you?
Observational studies are never the equivalent of double-blind randomized studies; but there can still provide important and fare more readily obtained early information about these connections and conditions.
John Credulous , 03 July 2020 at 02:17 PMNo comment/s needed perhaps. But deliciously anticipated. Here, from the Committee, and especially from the MSM. Even if only silence. Because "silence is really violence" in this case.
Ulenspiegel , 03 July 2020 at 02:20 PMFWIW, Jimmie Moglia's erudition is formidable, and as a stylist, not too distracting:
https://www.yourdailyshakespeare.com/2020/04/11/the-coronavirus-and-galileo/
As for me I am reminded of the advice that Timon of Athens gave to two robbers who came to see him, "Trust not the physician, for his antidotes are poison, and he slays more than you rob."https://www.yourdailyshakespeare.com/2020/06/08/the-world-upside-down/
And here is an example, a reported 'case-study'. A prince of Persia had melancholia and suffered from the delusion of being a cow. He would moo like a cow, crying "Kill me so that a good stew may be made of my flesh," and would never eat anything. Avicenna was persuaded to treat the case and sent a message to the patient, asking him to be happy as the butcher was coming to slaughter him. The sick man rejoiced. When Avicenna approached the prince with a knife in his hand, he asked, "Where is the cow so I may kill it."The patient then mooed like a cow to indicate where he was. He was then laid on the ground for slaughter. When Avicenna approached the patient pretending to slaughter him, he said, "The cow is too lean and not ready to be killed. He must be fed properly and I will kill it when it becomes healthy and fat. The patient was then offered food, which he ate eagerly and gradually gained strength, got rid of his delusion, and was completely cured.
How relevant may be the Avicennian case study to the current dynamics of the pandemic I will leave it to my possible and patient readers to decide.
egl , 03 July 2020 at 02:31 PM"No comment needed."
What was the difference between the Michigan study and the others, which found no positive ecffect?How do you explain the low mortality of the control group in the Michigan study?
turcopolier , 03 July 2020 at 02:51 PM"Limitations to our analysis include the retrospective, non-randomized, non-blinded study design."
Babak makkinejad , 03 July 2020 at 03:27 PMulenspiegel
Dr. Marc Siegel a medical correspondent for Foxnews told T. Carlson weeks ago that an emergency treatment of this drug saved the life of his 96 year old father who was at the point of death, cured him overnight in fact.
egl , 03 July 2020 at 03:57 PMUtenspiegel
It is a fact that cancer drugs are not uniformly effective in all patients.
The causes must be sought in the genotypes of the patients.
The differential response as well as effectiveness are not reasons to discard a therapy.
In further news on COVID-19 Treatments I have 2 items to report:
First one:
The 3-drug mixture of Azittomycin, Naproxen, and prednisolone (oral or injectable) have been used successfully for reduction of the inflammation of respiratory system.
3 systematic trials have been undertaken and results were conclusive in expediting faster recovery.
Second one:
Clinical trials in Iran (in Masih Daneshvari hospital) – indicated 100% cure of COVID-19 in 20 patients using a combination of ReciGen and Cultera (sic?) which is an AIDS drug.
A second group of patients – 152 – had a reduction in mortality of 20% as compared to those who were only receiving Cultera (sic.?)
https://www.cinnagen.com/Product.aspx?t=2&l=1&Id=66&f=3The results are supposed to be published in the Journal of Immunopharmacotherapy.
The dosage was: 5 times day, 12 million units.
No side effects were reported.
Seward , 03 July 2020 at 06:00 PMulenspiegel:
This stuff is hard. There are lots of variations in patient populations and treatment protocols. We have to consider doses, concomitant meds (such as azithromycin), patient status at time of treatment, age, and, comorbidities.
A big difference: the Ford study was not randomized, not double-blinded. They used a statistical technique to try to make the groups comparable on factors believed to be relevant, but this is after fact. (It's a nice technique, I've used it myself, but it doesn't magically solve all of the difficulties of retrospective analysis.)
In contrast, the recently halted NIH trial was randomized, double-blinded; this was in a hospital setting. The prophylactic trial reported at the beginning of June in NEJM (author Boulware) was also randomized, double-blinded; this was in a prophylactic setting.
Hydroxychloroquine is the active ingredient in the tonic portion of gin and tonics, which I've been drinking for prophylactic purposes since the pandemic began.
Jul 02, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com
alifornia-based pharmaceutical giant Gilead Sciences has announced that a five-day course of its antiviral drug Remdesivir -- shown in tests to effectively fight COVID-19 -- will cost $3,120 to Americans with health insurance and $2,340 to those on Medicaid. Yet research published in April calculated that the drug could be produced at a profit for as little as $0.93 per day.
The study, led by Dr. Andrew Hill from the Department of Translational Medicine, University of Liverpool, U.K., and published in the Journal of Virus Eradication , found that a five-day course of lifesaving Remdesivir could be mass-produced for less than the cost of a Subway sandwich. So cheap is the drug that the saline solution and the syringe needed to administer it would be more costly. MintPress spoke with Dr. Hill, who was dismayed by the company's announcement.
We are in a health emergency. We can't have a situation right now where people are unable to access medicine because the prices are too high. Remdesivir is a drug that has had its development costs paid for, in large part, by independent donors like governments and ministries of health in China, the WHO, and the U.S. government. So why should a company be making money in the middle of a pandemic by selling a drug which has largely been developed independently of them?" he said.
https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?creatorScreenName=AlanRMacLeod&dnt=true&embedId=twitter-widget-1&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1278229120711716865&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mintpressnews.com%2Fpublic-outcry-gilead-charges-3000-covid-19-drug-cost-pennies%2F269110%2F&siteScreenName=MintPressNews&theme=light&widgetsVersion=9066bb2%3A1593540614199&width=500px
News of the decision led to an explosion of public anger. "As Gilead charges $3,120 for its COVID drug, Remdesivir, remember that the drug was developed with a $70,000,000 grant from the federal government paid for by American taxpayers. Once again, Big Pharma is set to profit on the people's dime," wrote former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich. "This isn't healthcare. It's extortion," appeared to be the overwhelming sentiment on social media.
Gilead itself, however, seemed not to share this sentiment. Indeed, its press release on the subject positioned its decision as a selfless and magnanimous gesture of corporate philanthropy. "We approached this with the aim of helping as many patients as possible, as quickly as possible and in the most responsible way," said its CEO, Daniel O'Day, adding that, "under normal circumstances" the company would have charged the public $12,000 per patient.
"A new low"Remdesivir is an intravenous antiviral drug that has been used to fight other coronaviruses like SARS and MERS and has shown some effectiveness against Ebola. Although far from a miracle treatment, studies have concluded that it aids recovery, reducing the average hospital visit for COVID-19 patients from 15 days to 11 days when compared to a placebo. Like with everything coronavirus-related, there is no absolute scientific consensus. In late April, the WHO accidentally leaked a Chinese study that suggested Remdesivir may not be as effective as Gilead claims it to be. Nevertheless, the Trump administration has now bought up the entire world's stock of the drug, effectively confiscating it and shutting out every other country from the medicine.
"I've been working in medicine for 32 years and I have never seen anything like it. I've never seen a country be that brazen. We have to work together. This could be a taste of the future. They've tried to also do this with advanced orders of vaccines. Imagine if we had a 100 percent effective vaccine and it only went to Americans," Dr. Hill told MintPress .
At the moment people don't quite understand the gravity of the decision that the American government has made. This is a worldwide epidemic and we have got to remember that the clinical trials of Remdesivir were not just conducted in the United States; they were conducted around European and Chinese centers. Patients put themselves at risk to take part in an experimental drug trial, and the gratitude we get as other countries after our people were involved in these studies is to be shut out of the future supply of the drug?! It is simply ethically unacceptable. I think there are serious questions to be answered. This is a new low ground, unfortunately," he added.
https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1277821241496408071
Gilead has been under considerable public scrutiny of late. The company, which announced profits of $5.4 billion last year, has increased its value by $15 billion since the pandemic began. In December, MintPress reported that it was being sued, accused of deliberately holding back a lifesaving HIV drug to extend the profitability of their previous, inferior one. With shades of the Remdesivir announcement, the drug is sold in Australia for $8 per month, but the company charges Americans around $2,000 for the same dosage. "Gilead has a long history of profiteering," said Dr. Hill. "Its CEO is a billionaire and has been accused of tax avoidance; by keeping their intellectual property in Ireland they avoided $10 billion in taxes in 2016 and they sell drugs for between 100 and 1,000 times the cost of production. And nobody is stopping them. I think this is a taste of things to come if we don't have better controls on the pharmaceutical industry's excesses."
As of Wednesday morning, there have been 2.73 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the United States, the six worst days for the virus in terms of infections all occurring in the previous week.
Feature photo | A lab tech displays a package of the Remdesivir at the Eva Pharma Facility in Cairo, Egypt June 29, 2020. Amr Abdallah | Reuters
Alan MacLeod is a Staff Writer for MintPress News. After completing his PhD in 2017 he published two books: Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News and Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent . He has also contributed to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting , The Guardian , Salon , The Grayzone , Jacobin Magazine , Common Dreams the American Herald Tribune and The Canary .
Jul 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
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Fred box , 40 minutes ago
Arch_Stanton , 47 minutes agoDeaths from just *Pneumonia* from Feb1st to June20/20 =*119,174* Deaths from just Covid by its self for same time period = 109,188 And for this time period 1,232,269 Deaths from all causes. The numbers Fear game,obviously is being played up large by the DemoTards and we know why! Funny how the Fake News,never speaks of this. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1113051/number-reported-deaths-from-covid-pneumonia-and-flu-us/
razorthin , 59 minutes agoFauci should have had his microphone taken away months ago. A testament to the power of big pharma.
nsurf9 , 1 hour agoLittle Fascist Koxucker.
"Please understand the people who have built this international order reject natural law, so they do not like sovereign citizens. They do not believe people have inherent rights or sacred liberties. Most frankly find God anathema and believe in no higher authority than themselves and the heartless arithmetic they serve. So, while they have happily plundered America of blood and treasure which we were foolish enough to provide in copious quantities, they have no love or need of our nation or antiquated concepts such as those enshrined in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. In their calculation, America needed to be taken down in order to realize the global project, and as you see the first glimmers of a national effort in opposition to that, a positive limited effort struggling to overcome the bureaucrats who betray us all at every opportunity, it becomes clear the Left would rather collapse America than see us oppose the new world without borders where everyone intermingles under a controlling network of agencies. No guns, no resistance, no free speech, and no problems is what they want. Only we stand in the way of the fulfillment of this Orwellian vision, and as each day's hysteria on the news reveals, the powers that be are working overtime to push the Left into revolt to topple America into a conflict that will remove us from prominence on the world scene. Should they win, our rights are gone. Should they fail, the rest of the world will have consolidated against us, save those few brave nations trying to fight themselves free of the same entanglements that brought us low. This is where we are today, and it is one hell of a dilemma for a person who cares about this country and our historic values. No matter what we choose, any path but submission and surrender only leads to greater conflict, so this makes us consider the first important question: What are we willing to fight to preserve? Individuals and families will have to answer this question in the coming months and years in a much more meaningful way than has been required in generations. The easy days are coming to an end, and while the economy is booming and we're enjoying an Indian Summer for our embattled nation, these questions will only become more pressing in the days ahead."
-- The Coming Civil War by Tom Kawczynski
IvannaHumpalot , 1 hour agoThe nasolacrimal duct (also called the tear duct) carries tears from the lacrimal sac of the eye into the nasal cavity. This virus seems to be able aerosol its particles more readily than other viruses so as to spread its RNA/DNA in the air - as well as being normally contracted through fluid droplets.
The eyes are large wet areas, perfect for collecting dust and viruses. If you're a part of an at-risk demographic or just worried, make sure you cover you eyes. And, upon returning home, I rinse the eyes out with water along with washing my hands.
Right now, I'm using some tight-fitting fishing glasses with my n99 mask, when I go into stores or hi-density areas - but, looking for something better.
IvannaHumpalot , 1 hour agoRinsing your eyes wont help
yes you can get it through your eyes but that is very difficult via aerosol and unlikely
far more likely is you touch a contaminated surface after some dirty person without a facemask has been talking and breathing out their infected droplets earlier
those droplets fall to the surface and you touch it then touch your eyes, nose or mouth
or you breathe in an infective dose by not wearing a mask to reduce viral load exposure
or you walk it home on your shoes
tranium , 1 hour agoHerd immunity at 80%
america has 328 million
That means 262 million must get infected for fantasy herd immunity
US infected is now at 2.7 million infected
let us be generous and say 10x havent been diagnosed but have it
so the US is at 27 million infected
27 out of 262 million
there goes the stupid herd immunity sham
Wear a facemask, avoid catching or spreading it
ZKnight , 1 hour agoDr. HOAX is spreading plandemic.
WhiteHose , 1 hour agoDoes anyone even believe this sleazy little man who's corona predictions were 20x off?
He single handedly destroyed the economy and people's jobs over a false alarm all to try and get his vaccine's in.
hugin-o-munin , 1 hour agoHes been wrong on everything since Jan!
JamcaicanMeAfraid , 1 hour agoWe applaud the approval of chemical sweeteners, fluoride, GMOs, antibiotic saturated meat products and poultry, not to mention the continued use of Glyphosate on just about all food products. Eat and drink your industrial sugar and chemicals. Now we need a global vaccine schedule and license linked to passports to make sure everyone on the planet is inoculated all the time before we can allow them to buy and sell. This is all done out of pure love and care for all people.
/s
Peak Finance , 1 hour agoFauci's ego may start to encroach on the king of all egos, Barry Soreto
Argentumentum , 1 hour agoThis:
"tremendous burden" that the US health care system might face this fall if COVID-19 and the flu are circulating at the same time.
This man is truly a fool and should be arrested.
Death rates and statistics do not work that way
This coming flu season is going to be the MILDEST EVER because of Covid, as, the people that WOULD HAVE DIED this season have ALREADY PASSED
Similar to the "Demand-pull" concept in economics
Random ZH posters smarter than people in the upper reaches of government
******* Clown World
LA_Goldbug , 1 hour agoThey are not stupid. They are criminals.
Crash Overide , 2 hours agoA waist of time listening to these jokers.
You are better off reading this article,
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/
Counting,
RTP , 2 hours agoFauci and Redfield are complete pieces of s h i t. So much misdirection and lies.
k3g , 2 hours agoGallo + Fauci = AIDS swindle
Fauci + Gates = COVID-19 swindle
How much longer will this poisonous dwarf ruin the future of mankind?
kort6776 , 2 hours agoQuestion in March: Doc, you've been a Director at NIH infectious disease unit for 36 years. You're our top virologist. You're in the spotlight, your moment to shine, to show why we've paid your salary and bene's all these years, we're counting on you. First question: should we wear masks, would that help?
A: Dunno. Have to study it.
Q: Well, if we want to wear masks, how to we get them? When will the gubmint release masks from the billions it has in storage?
A: Dunno. Not sure if we have any masks. Have you tried Home Depot?
Cobra Commander , 2 hours agothe government is cooking the books
USAllDay , 2 hours ago"Just flatten the Curve."
"2 weeks to flatten the Curve."
"Don't wear masks; unless they are N95 they are ineffective."
"Stop buying masks -- we need them for the (furloughed) hospital workers."
"Mask are now super effective against SARS-CoV-2."
"Just wear anything; homemade, cotton, surgical, wool blend, anything is now effective."
Cobra!
Lord Raglan , 2 hours ago"Dr. Fauci I am curious about your income before the virus vs today"?
"How many mortgage payments have you missed"
"How many employees have you fired?
shankster , 2 hours ago"which pharmaceutical companies do you own stock in directly or indirectly through family members?"
Son of Loki , 1 hour agoWhat about your financial ties to Bill Gates?
Geocen Trist , 2 hours ago"BJ" is what he's known outside CDC by.
Big Jackass = Fauci
Many of these people are in government --- life long -- because they could never make it in the private sector.
shankster , 1 hour ago" Fauci attended Regis High School in Manhattan's Upper East Side " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci
" Regis High School is a private Jesuit secondary school for Roman Catholic boys located on Manhattan's Upper East Side. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regis_High_School_(New_York_City)
" He then went to the College of the Holy Cross "
" The College of the Holy Cross, or better known simply as Holy Cross, is a private Jesuit liberal arts college in Worcester, Massachusetts. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_the_Holy_Cross
I wonder if Fauci is a Jesuit Freemason ? :-D
enlightened01 , 2 hours agoMasks are only for the plebs
Macho Latte , 2 hours agoThe government and the FED dumping TRILLIONS of dollars to all these corporations, meanwhile they can't even provide FREE MASKS for everyone. If they really wanted to help, they could have given everyone masks. That's how you could have helped prevent it. And MASKS are expensive why not subsidized it, and maybe we would have this in control and are re-opening sooner.
Son of Loki , 1 hour ago
Dr Atlas on Tucker Carlson
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6168220031001?playlist_id=5528578293001#sp=show-clipsHere it is on youtube:
Jun 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
On Monday, Gilead disclosed its pricing plan for Gilead as it prepares to begin charging for the drug at the beginning of next month (several international governments have already placed orders). Given the high demand, thanks in part due to the breathless media coverage despite the drug's still-questionable study data, Gilead apparently feels justified in charging $3,120 for a patient getting the shorter, more common, treatment course, and $5,720 for the longer course for more seriously ill patients. These are the prices for patients with commercial insurance in the US, according to Gilead's official pricing plan.
As per usual, the price charged to those on government plans will be lower, and hospitals will also receive a slight discount. Additionally, the US is the only developed country where Gilead will charge two prices, according to Gilead CEO Daniel O'Day. In much of Europe and Canada, governments negotiate drug prices directly with drugmakers (in the US, laws dictate that drug makers must "discount" their drugs for Medicare and Medicaid plans).
But according to O'Day, the drug is priced "far below the value it brings" to the health-care system.
However, we'd argue that this actually isn't true. Remdesivir was developed by Gilead to treat Ebola, but the drug was never approved by the FDA for this use, which caused Gilead to shelve the drug until COVID-19 presented another opportunity. Even before the first study had finished, the company was already pushing propaganda about the promising nature of the drug. Meanwhile, the CDC, WHO and other organizations were raising doubts about the effectiveness of steroid medications.
Months later, the only study on the steroid dexomethasone, a cheap steroid that costs less than $50 for a 100-dose regimen, has shown that dexomethasone is the only drug so far that has proven effective at lowering COVID-19 related mortality. Remdesivir, despite the fact that it has been tested in several high quality trials, has not.
So, why is the American government in partnership with Gilead still pushing this questionable, and staggeringly expensive, medication on the public?
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- ilsm said...
- 2slugs,
I am not an ORSA (I can talk from my BS studies, and a few electives at grad level) occasionally I used the USAF version usually A&AS contractors and/or FFRDC of you guys. I would not talk models unless they showed the 'pedigree'.
I do not know your model, nor do I know how CDC or WHO validates or accredits a model for CoV SAR-2 when there is little agreed to on CoV SAR 1 from 2003. Post Docs in Universities.......?
NY metro, my home town and of 1/2 my grandkids', is "enjoying" very low new cases and for a number of weeks has seen steeply declining hospitalizations and ICU demand. The dead for NY state is well over 1500 per million, consider that during most of the shelter in place the center of NY state cases was the NY metro area (say 12 million souls) more than half NYS population in the shelter in place regime, you may disagree but I put dead for million in NY metro closer to 2700 than NY states' 1500 in round numbers. Sweden is around 10 million.
NY metro failed at 'lock down', mass transit continued to operate, unlike Wuhan which shut it all down. "Essential" workers travelled, came home often to multigenerational homes, crowding and general breaking of the curfews denied most of the 'benefits' seen in Peoples Republic of China and Taiwan, where if one tested positive you were put in a "Covid hotel" totally out of 'circulation'.
Some ideas:
Estimates are that 20% of NY metro residents now have anti bodies, that is large number of cases with none to minimal symptoms. That is the (not so) hardest observation to explain what is happening in NY metro.
Another theory comes out of Italy is with social distancing many 'subjects' get a small exposure to the virus and the subjects develop immunity. Another theory is 50 or so percent of the population has sturdy T cell response and beats the virus. I think Italy's, along with France and Spain, turn in the pandemic is a miracle! Thanks to Pope Francis.
Son with PhD theories, his words:
"Cell paper suggesting 40-60% of people have innate immunity ranging from cellular response (lysozyme, TLR pathway, etc.) to cross-reactive T-cells. A pet theory of mine is ACE2 receptor polymorphism as a possible factor; I saw an early Chinese paper suggesting east Asians carried an ACE2 membrane domain very similar to that of bats, though have not found much follow-up to that. Like with SARS-1, there will be many years of study and still no good answers."
The above is from a dialog with his childhood friend, now an ER MD in a Massachusetts hot spot, I used to take them to Boy Scouts 30 years ago.
I disagree with my son, the recent "success" in NY metro is a miracle: NY metro changed nothing; kept the subways running but 'turned the corner' in a big way!
I pray!
You have another explanation for NY?
June 26, 2020 at 9:42 PM
Jun 21, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca
The Corruption of Science. The Hydroxychloroquine Lancet Study Scandal. Who Was Behind It? Anthony Fauci's Intent To Block HCQ on Behalf of Big Pharma By Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, June 10, 2020 Global Research Region: USA Theme: Media Disinformation , Science and Medicine
The Guardian has revealed the scandal behind the hydroxychloroquine study which was intent on blocking HCQ as a cure for COVID-19. "Dozens of scientific papers co-authored by the chief executive of the US tech company behind the Lancet hydroxychloroquine study scandal are now being audited, including one that a scientific integrity expert claims contains images that appear to have been digitally manipulated. The audit follows a Guardian investigation that found the company, Surgisphere , used suspect data in major scientific studies that were published and then retracted by world-leading medical journals, including the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine. .
According to The Lancet:
several concerns were raised with respect to the veracity of the data and analyses conducted by Surgisphere Corporation and its founder and our co-author, Sapan Desai, in our publication. We launched an independent third-party peer review of Surgisphere As such, our reviewers were not able to conduct an independent and private peer review and therefore notified us of their withdrawal from the peer-review process
The study was allegedly based on data analysis of 96,032 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 between Dec 20, 2019, and April 14, 2020 from 671 hospitals Worldwide. The database, according to the Guardian could not be verified. It was false.
"I am truly Sorry"
Surgishpere CEO Dr. Sapan Desai was not in charge of the study. The lead author was Harvard Medical School professor Mandeep Mehra:
"I did not do enough to ensure that the data source was appropriate for this use. For that, and for all the disruptions – both directly and indirectly – I am truly sorry."
CEO Dr. Sapan Desai took the blame. Who was behind him?
The Surgisphere Scientific Scam. Who was behind it? Who "commissioned" this Report?
Was the pharmaceutical industry and vaccine lobby group behind this initiative? The Lancet acknowledges that the study received funding from the William Harvey Distinguished Chair in Advanced Cardiovascular Medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital which is held by Dr. Mandeep Mehra. In this regard, it is worth noting that Brigham Health has a major contract with Big Pharma's Gilead Sciences Inc , related to the development of the Remdesivir drug for the treatment of COVID-19. The Gilead-Brigham Health project was initiated in March 2020 .
Was the Surgisphere study intended to provide a justification to block the use of HCQ, as recommended by Dr. Anthony Fauci, advisor to president Trump? Upon reading the study (prior to its retraction), "Dr Fauci, grinned as he told CNN that "the data shows hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment "Referring to the Surgisphere report: "The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy for it [HCQ]," said Dr. Fauci. (quoted by CNN ).
Here is the CNN's authoritative assessment of Surgisphere's report (prior to The Lancet's Retraction):
"Seriously ill Covid-19 patients who were treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine were more likely to die or develop dangerous irregular heart rhythms, according to a large observational study [by Surgisphere] published Friday [May 22, 2020] in the medical journal The Lancet .
And Did CNN "retract" its earlier endorsement of this "fake scientific study"?
Dr. Anthony Fauci who is the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) , has from the very outset led the campaign against hydroxychloroquine (largely on behalf of Big Pharma) invoking similar "scientific arguments" against HCQ, saying categorically there was no cure to COVID-19, and the only solution was the vaccine.
According to the Spectator:
The campaign to destroy hydroxychloroquine has been waged relentlessly, both by competitor pharmaceutical companies and those who want to destroy the US economy to advance their political agenda. It is shocking that it has cost hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of taxpayer dollars. But although the corruption of science for political and/ or financial gain has become a defining characteristic of our age, it is not a new story.
The publication of the Surgisphere study had an immediate impact: According to the Guardian , "Surgisphere data led to global trials of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 being halted in May, because it appeared to show the drug increased deaths in Covid-19 patients".
"Higher Risks of Death" if you take HCQ, according to the study. In the days following the fake Surgisphere Lancet report on May 22, several countries including Belgium, France, Italy, acted to halt the use of hydroxychloroquine. The study had concluded patients taking the anti-malaria drug had a higher risk of death than those who were not taking the medication
It is worth noting that prior to the conduct of the Surgisphere study, Dr. Fauci stated categorically that the use of HCQ had not been studied in relation to the coronavirus. "No proven drug": "Not Enough Known" . Nonsensical and false statements.
What Fauci failed to mention is that Chloroquine had been "studied" and tested fifteen years ago by the CDC as a drug to be used against coronavirus infections. Chloroquine was used in 2002 and tested against SARS-1 coronavirus in a study under the auspices of the CDC published in 2005 in the peer reviewed Virology Journal. The main conclusion of the article was that: Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread. It was used in the SARS-1 outbreak in 2002. It had the endorsement of the CDC.
The main author Dr. Martin J. Vincent together with several of his colleagues were affiliated with the Special Pathogens Branch of the Atlanta based CDC together with co-authors from a Montreal based partner research institution. The main conclusions of this study are that Chloroquine is a tested drug and can be used for SARS-corona virus infections.
Dr. Anthony Fauci has not put forth a treatment which could be applied against COVID-19. What he is saying is that there is no treatment. And then he endorses the fake scientific study by Surgisphere which was subsequently retracted by The Lancet. Lancet: the article was retractedDr. Anthony Fauci has been deliberately blocking a drug which was endorsed by the CDC 15 years ago for treatment of SARS-1 Coronavirus. More recently, it has been used extensively in a number of countries in relation to the Coronavirus or SARS-COV-2 (COVID-19) outbreak. Whose interests is he serving?
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Jun 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Kay Fabe , Jun 19 2020 23:42 utc | 52
"The primary function of a mask is not to protect the person who wears it, but to protect the other persons who are around.Theaters are closed rooms in which people sit together for a longer time in often somewhat sticky air. Like churches they are prime location for potential super-spreader events. One infected person who does not wear a mask in a theater can infect many other attendants, even if they do wear masks."
I am a bit more understanding of mandatory mask wearing on public transportation or retail outlets. People don't have many choices to travel or shop so I go along with it.
However, going to a movie theater is a choice. I am a big believer in Freedom of Choice. If you choose to attend a theater knowing in advance masks are not mandatory, thats your choice. For a healthy person under 55 the risk of death or hospitalization from this virus is not any greater than flu. Those are facts from CDC. If you want to protect your eyes from viruses wear goggles.
I personally cant wear a mask for long periods because i feel oxygen deprived. Real or imaginary I cant say, but I saw one study with surgeons where prolonged wearing of surgical
Masks significantly reduced lung oxygen levels. Some medical conditions make mask wearing dangerous. Oxygen is necessary to clear infection in the lungs and nasal passages so I am not confident prolonged mask wearing might not increase the risk of infection or worsen an existing infection. Sadly there are few useful studies. I guess not enough of a profit motive to fund them.
Christian J. Chuba , Jun 20 2020 0:09 utc | 60
Richard Steven Hack , Jun 20 2020 0:11 utc | 61Kay Fabe, "I am a bit more understanding of mandatory mask wearing on public transportation or retail outlets...Masks significantly reduced lung oxygen levels."Masks just need to stop droplets can be cloth based, they don't have to be super impermeable but still only you can say what you consider comfortable. A movie is about 2 - 3 hrs of non-strenuous activity, I don't see how it is so different from wearing it on an airplane, or long bus / train trip.
I heard a doctor make an interesting claim that contrary to popular belief, the air on a passenger jet is very pure, highly filtered and blows downward and therefore very safe. It makes me wonder about the air system in a theater, if it is good then AMC should lead with that.
...Of course, if someone directly coughs in your face, then presumably you get hit with a full load. That's why we maintain distance. But even the, the primary route will be through the nose and mouth. It's also likely that a far bigger load goes through the nose and mouth than the eyes, and it is speculated that the likelihood of infection depends on the viral load.Richard Steven Hack , Jun 20 2020 0:46 utc | 68In any event, I wear glasses, which likely provides a fair amount of protection from random airborne virus particles.
...For the most part, however, the vast majority of persons who caught it appear to have gotten it directly from being near an infectious person for at least ten minutes, inhaling their breathing/talking/singing/yelling air, with a much smaller percentage getting it from touching an infected surface (estimated at only ten percent of cases.) So getting it from food is likely an even more distant probability.That said, as I've said before, getting this thing is a crapshoot. It's a matter of greater or lesser probabilities. As they say, "to play the odds, you have to know the odds." So I take steps that would minimize my risk, but in the end there's only so much you can do. I assume some people have caught it by wildly improbable methods.
It reminds me of the Marty Feldman skit decades ago. He goes to visit an insurance agent and proceeds to drive the agent crazy by asking if the insurance being offered would protect me from insanely unlikely events, such as "being struck by a meteorite whilst sunbathing at the beach" or "falling into a pit filled with hedgehogs whilst playing cricket." Eventually he asks if he is protected against an enraged insurance agent, whereupon the agent says, "No!" and proceeds to strangle him.
Jun 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
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Dumpster Elite , 1 hour ago
We_The_People , 1 hour agoDoes he mean "scientists", such as Bill Gates?
Locker up , 1 hour agoThat's not entirely true, we just do not believe in fraudulent agenda driven traitors like you!
Fauci's estimates were so off that the only 2 conclusions can be formed, gross negligence or intentional deception, either way he has zero credibility left!
MsCreant , 1 hour agoI remember when the pandemic started Fauci said "Masks don't protect you and the front line health workers need the masks for their protection". I think that statement caused him to lose all credibility with the public. Fauci still sounds like he's drowning in mucus. They should get a healthy honest scientist to talk to the public.
Dumpster Elite , 1 hour agoThis guy should just step down.
He is now saying masks are good. They were not good when there was a shortage of them.
If he can't see the logic of why he is not trusted, he is incompetent. lay_arrow
Max UK , 1 hour ago"How DARE you serfs and peasants question the authority and wisdom of your masters!!! INSOLENCE!!!!"
NumberNone , 1 hour agoYeah Fauci, nobody has done as much to destroy trust actually, as YOU!
Lt. Frank Drebin , 1 hour agoThere are 57 genders...is that the science we don't believe in? Asking for a friend.
Tarzan , 38 minutes agoWhat a jerk. This dude has Napoleon syndrome, i.e. only he is right, everyone else is stupid.
RU4Au , 11 minutes agoFauci TEST ified that, although they are TEST ing more, there has been more positive TEST s then before they were TEST ing more, and We're all crazy science deniers for recognizing his inconsistent TEST imony.
Fauci is playing with fire.
gas·light
/ˈɡaslīt/
verb
gerund or present participle: gaslighting
manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.
Hey Fauxi, You're right. I don't believe in your kind of 'science' or your kind of 'authority'.
Jun 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the polarising director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, slammed everyday Americans for refusing to go along with 'authority' on medical matters, and accused people of 'amazing denial' when it comes to 'truth'.
Speaking on a podcast called Learning Curve , produced by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Fauci charged that "unfortunately, there is a combination of an anti-science bias that people are -- for reasons that sometimes are, you know, inconceivable and not understandable -- they just don't believe science and they don't believe authority."
"So when they see someone up in the White House, which has an air of authority to it, who's talking about science, that there are some people who just don't believe that -- and that's unfortunate because, you know, science is truth, " Fauci asserted.
"It's amazing sometimes the denial there is, it's the same thing that gets people who are anti-vaxxers , who don't want people to get vaccinated, even though the data clearly indicate the safety of vaccines," Fauci proclaimed, adding "That's really a problem."
https://open.spotify.com/embed-podcast/episode/2wIL0rfSosidScjE5ykR8U
Perhaps the real reason Americans don't trust Fauci is that he's consistently flip flopped and contradicted himself on 'the truth' for months.
The man also exudes authoritarianism , and clearly has a problem with anyone who questions his superiority .
Fauci also has a long history of being the front man for a network of powerful Big Pharma and Big Medicine interests, pushing vaccines and medicines in a clear conflict of interest.
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Following Fauci's blame-scaping the anti-science bias of (implicitly ignorant) Americans, Thiel Capital MD Eric Weinstein unleashed a barrage of uncomfortable truths on Twitter
How dare this man.
Do you want to know why they are learning to hate scientists for real Dr Fauci?
Because your group lies about science & your ilk drove the truth telling scientists out of their rightful places inside the institutions calling bullshit on your lying about masks. pic.twitter.com/VJLTGT0GOe
-- Eric Weinstein (@EricRWeinstein) June 18, 2020Scientists like me who don't go along with cowards & crowds cannot disrupt your group's lies because we are outside. Imagine if I was tweeting from the National Science Foundation or MIT. It would be a national news story about how your cabal lies and degrades faith in science: https://t.co/leYsCerG3o
-- Eric Weinstein (@EricRWeinstein) June 18, 2020Weinstein went on:
y_arrow 1"But you prattle on. We will one day find out later that you suspected all along that the Wuhan BS-L 4 virology lab might well be involved, but that you didn't say so for this or that political reason.
Because you aren't a scientist. You play one. You are an MD turned actor.
Even when I agree with the conclusions of your institutional pseudo science cabal, you cheat to get to our shared conclusions on vaccines, viruses, climate, etc.
So you want people to believe in science again? Ok. Call-yourself-out. Admit that your crowd **lied** about our masks.
And not to put too fine a point on it: your group is sitting in chairs reserved for people who don't do what your cabal just did.
You just don't have what it takes sir. I'm sorry. But science isn't acting. It's not a beauty pagent. It's not politics.
Science requires courage ."
Whoa Dammit , 2 minutes ago
Boing_Snap , 6 minutes agoLike the other many things that Mr.Fauci has gotten wrong, he fails to recognize the truth that Americans don't believe him
TruthHunter , 6 minutes agoPeople don't believe Fauci, never been in the real world, vaccine patent holder,
JoePorkChop , 6 minutes agoFauci, you're not a scientist. You're a politician...stop whining when you're treated like one
artytom , 6 minutes agoAre scientists and authority some incorruptible special breed? A very skeptical eye towards any power structure is very neccesary, always.
HowardBeale , 7 minutes agoGood man Weinstein.
SuperareDolo , 8 minutes agoIs he phucking joking? Fauci has no idea what Fauci will say tomorrow...
diogi23 , 9 minutes agoI don't know if it would surprise Fauci to know that the majority of epidemiologists are among those he says, "Don't believe in science, or authority."
Combining those two terms is very telling. Science is skeptical empiricism, not belief. It's kind of self-contradictory to believe in conclusions, since he's not talking about belief in the validity of skeptical empiricism. He's talking about his authority, which he wants people to believe in, because he's a scientist. That's technocracy, and nobody should accept that.
aelfheld , 6 minutes agoFauci is the John Bolton of science. Why does Trump keep him around??
ze_vodka , 11 minutes agoScience is a process, not 'revealed wisdom'.
I d----d sure don't put much faith in scientists who try to speak ex cathedra .
Demystified , 12 minutes agoI require evidence based reasoning to be presented for Science...
and
I require that those who seek to be called an "Authority" demonstrate the ability to lead well with kindness and humility.
So...
I firmly reject arbitrary Totalitarianism... which is exactly what Fauci espouses and proclaims.
ze_vodka , 11 minutes agoFauci is a medical MEATBALL, his credibility is in the toilet. A Flush is needed urgently.
Demystified , 12 minutes agoI require evidence based reasoning to be presented for Science...
and
I require that those who seek to be called an "Authority" demonstrate the ability to lead well with kindness and humility.
So...
I firmly reject arbitrary Totalitarianism... which is exactly what Fauci espouses and proclaims.
YouThePeople , 13 minutes agoFauci is a medical MEATBALL, his credibility is in the toilet. A Flush is needed urgently.
Slayer666 , 14 minutes agoFauxi is a corrupted paid stooge...and a bad actor.
hugin-o-munin , 6 minutes agoOld School Americans aren't very fond of blindly following authority. They/We have a rebellious streak. That's why the globalists/NWO want to import a new, more docile population. But if America falls, don't expect the rest of the world to remain the same. Yeah I know a lot of people would welcome that, but don't be too sure that what comes into that power vacuum wouldn't be way worse.
Distant_Star , 15 minutes agoThere is a big difference in allowing the US economy to fail and having the US fail. Two different things. In fact I think the best remedy to the current hyper corrupt system is to let the dollar implode. That removes these fvckers' power in a clean sweep move and then something more genuine and honest can take its place.
theboxseat , 12 minutes agoWhat ********. I believe in Newton's laws of motion. I believe in the laws of thermodynamics and many other scientific rules. I believe in the periodic table. I believe in Avogadro's number and Boyle's Law.
I don't believe in the "China model" that Fauchi, the corrupt WHO, the inept CDC with their flawed Chinese test kits and the progressive politicians worshipped from day 1. I don't believe it was necessary to lock down whole populations. I don't believe in the political jihad against hydroxychloriquine because Trump said it might have value, mounds of anecdotal evidence supported its use, and many physicians endorse it.
I don't subscribe to the globalist horesehit from the Gates Foundation with his push for undeveloped vaccines and quantum dots, and statements that, "we have to vaccinate 6 billion people." I have contempt for craven people who demand that everyone else be locked down for their benefit, and whine about how "We can never go back to the way it was. Boo-hoo."
I question the ever changing, often contradictory narrative on this virus. I heap scorn on their wildly inaccurate models that caused this economic and social disaster. I call horse**** on the "scientists" and progressive authoritarians who joyfully locked down populations and businesses when it was not necessary. These same fools then remained totally silent when thugs, demonstrators, looters, arsonists, anarchists and mobs filled the street for a "higher cause." I condemn those such as the "hero" Andrew Cuomo who put infected people into nursing homes where old and vulnerable people died by the thousands for no reason. I guess that makes me and millions of others science "deniers." On the other hand, maybe ordinary people know a ship of floundering fools when they see one, and express genuine concern. You don't need scientific method to see a disaster in motion. Screw Fauchi.
LA_Goldbug , 11 minutes agoI believe in:
Fool me once shame on you...
Darn who can remember Dubya's version of this
ken , 9 minutes agoHe's busy looking for WMD with Colon Powell in Iraq. He'll be back in 50 yrs. because it is there and he will not stop looking.
hugin-o-munin , 5 minutes agoLies, just remember the lies, and that stupid look on his face while he tells them.
Rocbottom , 15 minutes ago“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”
SteveNYC , 18 minutes agoSCIENCE doesn’t say jack ****. SCIENTISTS do. And this “scientist” is a PROPAGANDIST not a doctor. THAT IS WHY no one believes what he says. He’s a paid liar.
k3g , 11 minutes agoJoke of the day "American don't believe authority"
Tony, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? When you've been lied to, on a massive scale since 2001, additional lies of which were put on steroids starting in 2016 - you'd be a FOOL to believe "authority" or "EXPERTS" like you pal.
It's over.
hugin-o-munin , 10 minutes agoLives Matter.
ken , 3 minutes agoYou must be a racist. :)
sun tzu , 21 minutes ago...not so much according to the Georgia Guidestones, the BMGF, U.S. Foreign Policy, and the sacrificial babies used in blackmail to force it, by Israel.
Trezrek500 , 22 minutes agoWhat science told the states in the northeast to send thousands of infected patients into nursing homes?
B52Minot , 23 minutes agoScience isn't about blind ideology.
sun tzu , 24 minutes agoFaucci is nothing but a spoiled brat....and now he has a tantrum because Americans could care less about what he says....why?? he wonders....Because Faucci has shown us the dark side of science....how it can ruin you if you make the wrong decision about its true validity. If we knew that the original estimate of deaths from COVID was a fraud Trump would never had declared an emergency and agreed with a shut down....This entire COVID response has been one big disaster....and a fraud with Faucci out there thinking he runs the place...
Time after time HE HAS BEEN WRONG..and his trust in the WHO and CHINA too has been corrupted if not a fraud too...SO WHY IS HE STILL TRYING TO TELL US WHAT TO DO....Because he thinks he is some sort of expert yet so flawed it oozes out of every pore...and NO ONE should listen to him on anything. Just another crying kid having a tantrum....GO HOME and retire Faucci...you really are worthless...and shut the hell up.
BAMCIS , 24 minutes agoScience is the truth, but scientists can and do lie.
bh2 , 27 minutes agoScience has a PR problem. Mainly due to it only being accountable to itself and the fact that for all it lofty aspirations, Science has not been able to achieve escape volatility from the bounds of corruption that only Big Money can impose.
Plus Americans are culturally hard wired to view Science as an enemy. Luke, a dumb hick farmer who used his faith and tenacity to destroy the crown jewel of the evil technocrats, namely the Death Star. In most (if not all) James Bond movies the villains are mad scientists or industrialists using science for "evil". In "The Hunger Games", Katniss Everdean is again a bumpkin who wages war against the fancy people with their shiny tech in their decadent cities. Its the Urban/Rural dichotomy. Same as it ever was.
vampirekiller , 29 minutes ago"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." -- Feynman
Lux , 29 minutes agoNo one believes a queertard that attempted to attribute a 100% preventable queer disease confined to the queer population to the majority heterosexual population. No one believes a queertard when current empirical data refutes his fearmongering.
smacker , 33 minutes agoI'm still wondering why Fauci is even alive. Then again, the entire Pentagon is populated by traitors with offshore bank accounts, so..
Voice-of-Reason , 35 minutes agoSomeone needs to tell Fauci the reason why people don't believe the science is because it keeps changing and contradicts itself.
There is no centre of competence on this virus and conflicting advice, including from him.
adr , 38 minutes agoScience originally said we didn't need masks and now we do. The problem I have with Mr Fauci's form of science is that it is too easily manipulated by politics.
Rest Easy , 38 minutes agoHey Fauchole, is this science?
Upwards of 60% of people have natural immunity to Covid due to antibodies produced from four or more common coronaviruses.
I reject your "science" and replace it with real research.
Hal n back , 41 minutes agoWell, yeah Dr. Fausti. We certainly did believe you. We didn't want to. But we are playing along. You know like at work. And like living like free citizens in a supposedly free country. By obliging you with shut-ins and shutdowns. And you terrorizing and bankrupting millions. Yeah I think we played along. And had faith in government and science. Cuz you said so. And would jail or punish those who did not. Take kids away. Send swat. Stuff like that. Had bills to pay. Those bills just keep on coming. And the nerve of those people wanting to like pay them! On time!
Government is only effective with the consent of the governed. You should know that. You should also say something about how that was shown to be very selective enforcement. Cuz riots or something. Do or don't matter? Confusing. They apparently can live of a billion dollars from bank of America and starkbucks and Wal-Mart. Or just not pay their bills at all. Or work. At a job. Where you have to show up on time, wear a mask and not burn **** down. Stuff like that.
You are throwing a tantrum. Because everyone, not quite everyone. Still doesn't obey you. Enough. To willingly line up for your vaccine. When it is ready. Of course. Seeing a little scary times ahead for your authority. Who do you answer to Dr. Fausti? Are they getting a little hot under your collar? Cuz science, right? Is what you most believe in. Not like something else. And as long as we are here. Why do you work for Trump? Or more to the point. Why does he employ you? Very confusing. Since he wants to maga. Supposedly.
R2U2 , 40 minutes agoI wonder how he treats his subordinates who have different views
Stan Smith , 43 minutes agoWebster’s Dictionary, 1828:
JES'UITISM, noun
1. Cunning, deceit; hypocrisy; prevarication; deceptive practices to effect a purpose
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/jesuitism
"Two cankers are biting the very entrails of the United States today: the Romish and the Mormon priests. Both are quietly at work to form a people of the most abject, ignorant and fanatical slaves, who will recognize no other authority but their supreme pontiffs. Both are aiming at the destruction of our schools, to raise themselves upon our ruins. Both shelter themselves under our grand and holy principles of liberty of conscience, to destroy that very liberty of conscience, and bind the world before their heavy and ignominious yoke.
The Mormon and the Jesuit priests are equally the uncompromising enemies of our constitution and our laws; but the more dangerous of the two is the Jesuit—the Romish priest, for he knows better how to conceal his hatred under the mask of friendship and public good; he is better trained to commit the most cruel and diabolical deeds for the glory of God.”
--Abraham Lincoln, 1864; "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome,” Charles Chiniquy, 1888.The CIA is roughly half Mormon and half Roman Catholic.
Sid Davis , 46 minutes agoThe reason people don't trust institutions is because they fail us time and time again.
All why sucking up resources for research (good) and making sure people inside the system are taken care of (less good).
The more Fauci talks the more he sounds like Al Gore. Not a good thing.
Lying about masks was bad. But lying about HC + Zinc is worse, at least in my mind.
To be fair to Fauci, that industry isnt the only one filled with dishonest schiesters.
They are everywhere.
Institutions aren't trusted because they've earned the distrust over decades. It's well earned.
Stillontheroad , 50 minutes agoFauci is a complete fraud.
He graduated from medical school and then spent 2 years working in hospitals. That is the extent of his medical experience. For the last 50 years he has been a bureaucrat. He obviously has a conflict of interest because of his ties to the Gates Foundation, Big Pharma, and the Wuhan Lab where this mess started.
This guy belongs at the end of a rope, not at the top of the response team to this scamdemic.
He is a sociopathic conman, and not even very good at that.
Voice-of-Reason , 52 minutes agoHey Fucci. How much money to you stand to gain from all your patents, all granted when you worked for the Federal Government but because you had friends in Congress a law was passed giving you the proceeds from those patents when in the real world said patents belong to the USA
Krink26 , 53 minutes agoMr. Fauci,
We believe science. We just don't believe governmental controlled shutdowns are the answer to this pandemic and that it ultimately does more damage to the economy than it protects people from Covid19. And yes, we do not believe authority because they lie constantly, are corrupt and generally are incompetent.
VideoEng_NC , 53 minutes agoWhen authorities weaponized everything including science, for political gain, people will not trust your authority.
Longdriver , 1 hour ago"Speaking on a podcast..."
This is the level of media Fauci seems to be relegated to plus his ever-welcoming friends for interviews with the MSM. Would appear Hungarian Pengos here on ZH was correct on his 05/21 post regarding the ulterior motives behind the announcement of Pence staffers getting the Wuhan virus making Fauci self isolate...for good. He doesn't even get to bake tree cookies.
DoctorFix , 1 hour agoFauci's true colors are being shown now. He's getting testy because he is watching his future personal profits go up in smoke in controlled vaccines.
k3g , 1 hour ago"Dont believe science"? Sure, Dr. Falsey! I believe in the "science" you represent. The science of lies and criminal deception. The science of propaganda and manipulation. The kind of sciences that you wholeheartedly embrace.
What is The Hedge , 1 hour agoFauci's turn came, and he proved himself to be incompetent, a bureaucrat, a fraud.
**** you Tony. You flat out suck.
Lumberjack , 1 hour agoWhat Fauci is really saying is that Americans are no longer accepting the false narratives promoted by those in charge. Maybe there's hope.
NotAGenius , 1 hour agoMr. Fauci;
I’m your age and have a pretty strong background in engineering, science and some other practical skills.
Over the last 30 years science has been bastardized by politicization and liberalism has finally reached the point of teaching kids 2+3= anything they want.
Political science is based on fraud and bull$hit and now the real deal is as contaminated as Fukushima.
Your comment about “authotity” screams of idiocracy. Try watering your crops with gatorade and fertilizing with MDMA.
I know and knew real Phd’s who were real scientists and that’s when science was based on theory, tests, duplication and verification.
That is no longer the case. It’s idiots like you, book smart field stupid ( I’m being kind with book smart), The only thing you a$$wipes are looking for is 10 minutes of fame, a bunch of money and molesting your interns and students with big boobs that need a passing grade.
When as usual your astrological prognotications are bad (which are 99% of the time), you find convenient parties to blame.
It’s time to put real science into both science and leadership.
I have high hopes that this will happen sooner rather than later.
Kid’s take note and see how many times they claimed eggs are bad for you and then they said eggs are good for you. That goes for many other items and issues too.
Yesireebob, You screwed the pooch Mr. Fauci and I’m calling PETA right now.
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brian91145 , 1 hour agoWhy the hell does ZH give Fauci the incredibly dishonest cruel idiot any venue. He's a liar and is the cause of the destruction of the USA by telling Trump we'd have a million covid-19 deaths unless it was shut down and everyone stayed home. So Trump wiped out the country and all of our lives on Fauci's b.s. That is what Fauci is, at best. Do not give him any public platform to lie even more yet to the cowardly stupid clueless Americans. Fauci does not deserve any recognition or platform for lies anywhere in the USA. But he's given the stage because the government apparently supports his lies. They are all guilty of treason and mass destruction of civilization. I want both executed at best, or at least humiliated with public avoidance.
radical-extremist , 1 hour agohe is owned by the Rockefllers and Gates. That's a fact
SurfingUSA , 1 hour agoScientists that can never bring themselves to say "I don't know." , are not scientists...they're blathering charlatans pumping their brand and feeding their egos. Fauci is much like Paul Krugman. He speaks with such confidence and certainty about everything, that surely he must be right. And when proven wrong will do it again with the opposing view, ignoring the fact he ever said it to begin with...as if there's no internet.
FragNasty , 1 hour agoYes true scientists are extremely humble and cautious, bec. they know how much they don't know.
Often is man's best wisdom to be silent , 1 hour agoHee hee, greatings to all.
Science is meant to be based on evidence rather than faith. Maybe Fauci himself doesn't believe in science with his inclination to the contrary. "Americans don't believe ..." The man is a maniac! Maybe he is accidentally confessing to the state of "science" as a counterpart to religion in it's role as an ideological control mechanism within the state of politics today, more precisely the breakdown of such a control mechanism.
BaNNeD oN THe RuN , 1 hour agoMarionettes can easily be transformed into hanged persons. The ropes are already there.
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Itchy and Scratchy , 1 hour agoHe is right...
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.
~ Isaac Asimov
But he is also one of the reasons that the anti-intellectual movement can maintain momentum. Too many of the "authoritative voices" in positions of power are total charlatans.
Handful of Dust , 1 hour agoThis yap flappin’ freak show in on the board of Gates controlled WHO & various other big pharma boards! His crooked snoot is buried so far into the cash flow trough it ain’t even funny! Embezzlement poster child!
Totally_Disillusioned , 1 hour ago"Fauci the Fraud" will go down in history who will not remember him kindly.
SuperareDolo , 6 minutes agoFauci doesn't seem to understand WE DON'T BELIEVE HIM ANY LONGER!
Yog Soggoth , 1 hour agoYou never should have believed him. He was behind the attempt to steal credit for the discovery of HIV by his underling, Gallo. There's a long story there.
We_The_People , 1 hour agoI believe Fauci gave the Wuhan lab $3.7 million.
That’s not entirely true, we just believe fraudulent agenda driven traitors like you!
Fauci’s estimates were so off that the only 2 conclusions can be formed, gross negligence or intentional deception, either way he has zero credibility left!
Jun 15, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
We do still need to worry about the coronavirus's spread. But how can we when the experts have completely forsaken our trust? Dr. Anthony Fauci (L), director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases speaks next to Response coordinator for White House Coronavirus Task Force Deborah Birx, during a meeting with US President Donald Trump and Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards D-LA in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC on April 29, 2020. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)
Since the pandemic began, I've been described as a so-called "COVID warrior," which makes some sense. After all, I've defended the shutdowns of large gatherings. I've insisted that it's wise to temporarily close churches and postpone funerals and other ceremonies. I've argued that extreme caution is necessary -- that to do anything else would be to blatantly and selfishly ignore the scientific information at our disposal. I've held the opinion that, although it has caused irrevocable harm to the economy and caused millions of people to suffer, business owners who close up shop for fear of spreading contagion are in the right.
Now I feel like a fool.
By no means am I a coronavirus denier -- more than 100,000 and counting have died from the COVID. But with conflicting reports about everything from wearing masks to the spread of the virus through surfaces coming out of the World Health Organization and the CDC almost weekly, my head is spinning. Nothing seems to make sense anymore.
For fear of spreading the virus, health experts have consistently recommended shutting down and avoiding public spaces, including schools , playgrounds , public pools , and public transportation . They've also advocated for limiting large gatherings and closing anything that might draw crowds. It's advice that's been repeated for months -- to the point that those ignoring it have been reviled and accused of experimenting with " human sacrifice ."
That's because asymptomatic carriers of the virus, though they may feel all right themselves, can become mass spreaders of the deadly contagion, especially in large groups. This is why Michigan residents protesting their state's lockdown in Lansing were deserving of shame -- they likely caused mass immiseration and sickness, right?
Wrong. Turns out, health officials didn't really believe any of that.
Just last week, the WHO announced that it's extremely rare for asymptomatic spreading of the coronavirus to occur. If you feel fine, then you're probably not a grave threat to anyone, especially if you're wearing a mask and gloves. Then the WHO backtracked on that statement, ultimately arriving at the completely unhelpful determination that " this is a major unknown ." Health experts simply don't know to what extent the disease is transmitted by asymptomatic carriers -- yet they still feel confident that the risks of the coronavirus shouldn't impact our protesting of police brutality.
One rightly wonders how, within a span of weeks, we went from shaming people for being out in the streets to shaming those who won't join the crowd .
What's more, contact with infected animals and surfaces is unlikely to cause COVID-19 to spread, and chlorine kills the virus upon contact, so clean pools are also safe. But of course, many schools, playgrounds, pools, and businesses were forced to close.
Livelihoods have been destroyed, children are paying a high price through a loss of time and key social-educational development, and mental health across the country is on the decline .
And now some journalists from prominent publications -- the same ones that have been demanding oh-so-extreme caution -- are performing breathtaking gymnastics in an effort to backtrack, explaining that there's no evidence of outdoor coronavirus spread. Now, it's "prolonged indoor close contact" that we have to worry about.
They may be right. Maybe protesters really shouldn't worry (though they probably should ). But that doesn't excuse what seems to be a disgusting hypocrisy that trampled on the livelihoods of more than 30 million Americans. Understandably, many are outraged and have lost all faith in the experts.
Health advice can't shift with politics -- COVID-19, cancer, and the flu don't know party lines. The virus is either unmanageable or manageable. That's it.
Now, with Trump aiming to restart his so-called "MAGA rallies," we'll inevitably have -- and already have had -- another round of tut-tutting from the media about how horribly irresponsible it is to gather in crowds. But who can possibly blame those who shrug these warnings off? MAGA rallies very well could spread COVID-19, but in the event they do, the George Floyd protests will be equally culpable. Expert credibility has been lost.
Maybe we should, as many of my more classically liberal friends have been saying all along, allow people to make their own choices, take their own risks, open their own businesses back up, hold their own protests against injustice.
Whatever the case, given the whiplash the public has experienced over these past few weeks, we certainly won't be running to health experts as readily as before. Certainly, social distancing practices have helped flatten the curve, but living your life based on the inconsistent messaging of the WHO and the CDC is a recipe for disaster. If a second wave does appear, it will be cautious individuals and community innovation that provides the solutions -- not those who have done nothing to earn our trust.
Anthony DiMauro is a freelance writer based in New York City. His work has appeared in The National Interest , Real Clear Media, and elsewhere. You can follow him on Twitter @AnthonyMDiMauro.
Jun 17, 2020 | www.youtube.com
Tyler Hackner , 13 hours agoAbsolutely nothing about how the US has responded to the Corona Virus could be mistaken for being based on data. I mean getting into the "spike" people are talking about, in Alabama where I live this is no spike, this is a continuation of the trend we've been seeing since March. Cases never significantly declined, and instead we've just seen steady growth in deaths, active cases, and new cases.
The increases we've seen have followed 2 weeks after what was basically the final wave to reopening (Which, really isn't, but public perception was that life could go back to normal based on statements from the state), almost perfectly. I am sure we'll see trends continue as protesters who were exposed start getting sick. It will just compound with the day to day effect that can easily be directed at the miscommunication of what the threat is to the public.
Make no mistake, Saagar is right to be annoyed but there is Nothing here that has been handled remotely well. Nobody communicated this well, nobody planned well, nobody reopened well. Front to back, top to bottom this has been an embarrassing failure for the US.
mrfrosty3 , 13 hours agoThe media establishment is gonna pay the price for its misinformation and lack of data
Jack Bradford , 12 hours agoGlenn Greenwald's video on the intercept about this was excellent. The medical and public health establishment need to be neutral, people aren't going to trust them again.
Luckyleft13 , 10 hours agoCommon sense tells you that nurses doctors and dentists wear masks for a reason you dont need a Fake Media to tell you anything.
cptbacon35 , 11 hours agoDave Chappelle pointed out in his latest standup that those we depend upon for information lie to us. CNN, Fox News and the like are all meant to polarize the citizens. Obviously it has been working!
I had this discussion with my best friend in March. I was questioning how is it the masks can be useless for those trying to prevent infections, but was efficient for those that had infection. Yet medical workers were using surgical masks while working around covid patients. It was easy to conclude that it was to prevent panic buying. Even if the MSM was truthful (I do not condone them lying), IMO people would have still bought out all of the masks. Just as they did with all the toilet paper and hand sanitizer.
Jun 13, 2020 | www.serendipity.li
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The origin of this panic seems to have been a report from CNN on January 26 of an alleged statement by China's health minister Ma Xiaowei that people who are (supposedly) infected by the virus can infect others without themselves showing any symptoms of illness. If that were true then you could be infected just by walking down the street -- clearly a reason to panic. Ma didn't explain why he thought the virus can be spread before someone has symptoms, but that didn't stop Dr. William Schaffner, a longtime adviser to the CDC, from taking this claim seriously -- in effect endorsing it. Other CDC officials took up the theme. Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases picked up the ball and ran with it. Dr. Fauci is quoted as saying, "the Chinese did not tell U.S. health authorities that the virus could spread before someone is symptomatic", thus implicitly suggesting that indeed that was the case. This was denied by epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm, who stated, "I know of no evidence in 17 years of working with coronaviruses ... where anyone has been found to be infectious during their incubation period." On January 30 the New England Journal of Medicine published a letter from 16 German doctors claiming that a symptomless Chinese woman (arriving from China) had infected a German man in Munich, but when they got around to actually asking her, she said that while in Munich she had in fact shown symptoms, which worsened on her return to China. Thanks to CNN, Dr. Fauci,and the German doctors, the rumor of symptomless transition morphed into "fact" among government officials and the general public. From then on the MSM issued increasingly alarming reports of deaths due to this (allegedly) new illness, ignoring the fact that people were (as usual) dying of the (not reported) seasonal flu.
John Nolte: Dr. Fauci Is Either a Liar or a Fraud And for a devastating exposé of the 36-year career of this vile quack doctor see the final article in William Engdahl's Covid article compilation here .In February, as Italy began reporting infections, Prof. Neil Ferguson, Head of the Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology at Imperial College London, dusted off a computer program he had written 15 years ago implementing a model for infectious disease spreading. Using data available from Italy he concluded (following his history of vastly over-estimating deaths in previous epidemics) that 510,000 people (2.5 million in the U.S.) could die if the U.K. government didn't abandon its strategy at that time of allowing the disease to spread. On February 23 in Italy the first lockdowns and compulsory "social distancing" began. Early in March Britain also imposed lockdowns, later extended to the entire U.K., despite the fact that Prof. Ferguson had revised his death toll estimate from 510,000 down to 20,000.
The term "lockdown" normally means keeping prisoners locked down in their cells, typically following a riot. It was also used in the MSM following the Boston Marathon Bombing in 2013 (likely a false flag) to confine people to their homes until given permission to come out -- a trial run?On March 7 one Dr. James Lawler (U. of University Medical Center) misinformed the world (to the delight of the MSM) that about 96 million Americans could become infected with coronavirus, of whom about half a million would die. On March 11 the WHO, after much delay, declared COVID-19 a global pandemic. On March 15 New York mayor Bill de Blasio declared (with no evidence) that the virus can spread rapidly through "close interactions," and issued an order (which was soon after repeated by governors of many other states) to close restaurants, bars and cafes. On March 16 most European countries imposed lockdowns and border closures. On March 20 New York Governor Andrew Cuomo (along with governors of many other states) shut down all "non-essential businesses", thereby depriving millions of people of their jobs and their livelihoods, leading to bankruptcies and suicides. By March 30 approximately 265 million Americans were under indefinite lockdown and martial law in all but name.
In late April a 'revised' version of the computer code written by Ferguson to predict 510,000 deaths in the U.K. was released to the GitHub code repository. It was examined by an anonymous ex-Google software engineer, who found numerous flaws and bugs, in particular that, from the same input data the program would produce very different outputs. This makes it useless for scientific purposes, and also worse than useless as a basis for political decisions (and consequently as a justification for government orders). Further details at Computer model that locked down the world turns out to be sh*tcode.
A comment (by Frito) on Zero Hedge about Ferguson's shoddy code:The thing that really has me pissed off, is that my government [the U.K.] (and many others around the world), jumped in and spent hundreds of billions of dollars and suspended the civil liberties of millions of people indefinitely and destroyed the livelihoods of countless small business people based on just one unverified source [that is, Ferguson]. There was ZERO due diligence done. The first thing that should have been done was to require the production of the full source code for the simulation software (as it was run, not this "cleaned up" stuff), and all input data so that it could be verified. If they didn't want to provide it, then the simulation results should have been discarded.Ferguson's "scientific" advice was bogus, and Boris Johnson was criminally negligent in accepting it and ordering the lockdown of the entire U.K. But will they ever see jail time for wrecking the U.K. economy and ruining the lives of millions of people? No way.
Jun 13, 2020 | www.bloomberg.com
Masks "are strongly encouraged in settings where individuals might raise their voice," the CDC guidance said.
The agency also recommended limiting attendance to allow for distancing.
Jun 11, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Coronavirus - How A German City Proved That Wearing Masks Works Blue Dotterel , Jun 11 2020 19:09 utc | 1A new study shows that mandatory mask wearing is the most effective measure during the Covid-19 epidemic.
On March 23 we started to urge everyone to wear masks during the Covid-19 pandemic:
Wearing a mask helps with protecting oneself but even more importantly helps to protect others. One might be carrying and spreading the disease without knowing it. We all release fine droplets when we speak, sneeze or cough. Masks prevent one's droplets from spreading out.There was and still is a lot of cultural resistance in 'western' societies to wearing masks even as it seem obvious that masks help to prevent infections. But while there was evidence that masks work in certain situation there was no scientific research that showed the effects general mask wearing would have on the growth of the epidemic. We did not know how much general mask wearing would 'flatten the curve'.
We now have a sound answer. There is now a study that compares a city which ordered everyone to wear masks with a similar city that had no 'mask-up' order during the same period of the epidemic.
On April 6 the German city of Jena with a population of 110,000 people ordered everyone to wear a mask in all public settings. The announcement of the order was made a week earlier and was followed by a local awareness campaign - "Jena wears mask!"
No other city in Germany did this at the time. The states of Germany only ordered mandatory mask wearing between April 22 and 26.
For 20 days Jena was different than the rest of the country but experienced the same epidemic. That made it possible to test the effect the mask order had on the number of new cases in Jena.
To be able to make a one to one comparison with Jena researchers from the University of Mainz constructed a 'synthetic city' of the same size and demographic characteristics as Jena from the weighted data of six other German cities (selected from a bigger pool). They then compared the Covid-19 case data from Jena with the case data from the synthetic city.
At the beginning of the pandemic in Germany the synthetic city and Jena had similar developments. But ten days after the announcement of the order and four days after its mandatory implementation the case numbers in Jena dropped away from those of the comparison city.
biggerThe people in Jena started to wear masks before other German cities did so. It nearly immediately paid off.
At the time of the announcement of the mask campaign Jena and the synthetic control city each had 93 cases. On April 6 Jena had 142 registered cases compared to 143 cases in the synthetic control city. On April 26 Jena counted 158 cases and the synthetic control city had 205 cases. It shows a significant reduction in the growth of the epidemic.
The authors conclude:
We believe that the reduction in the growth rates of infections by 40% to 60% is our best estimate of the effects of face masks.
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We should also stress that 40 to 60% might still be a lower bound. The daily growth rates in the number of infections when face masks were introduced was around 2 to 3%. These are very low growth rates compared to the early days of the epidemic in Germany, where daily growth rates also lay above 50%. One might therefore conjecture that the effects might have been even greater if masks had been introduced earlier.Japan and South Korea both brought the epidemic under control without ordering harsh lockdowns. The people there all wore masks from very early on even without being ordered to do so. The two countries also did extensive testing and contact tracing for each new case. Together these measures were enough to stop the outbreak.
Why didn't we copy them?
It was 'western' arrogance that prevented our societies from learning from China and other Asian societies. We should have used the time China had given us . The economic and human price for not having done so is very high. No doubt the masks help in preventing the spread when used properly, as well as gloves and distancing, but I wouldn't put too much faith in any studies.
The lockdown approaches themselves may have done more, but even those vary in method from one state to the next. Additionally, closing of borders to potential carriers from other countries seems important, as well as the virulence of the particular strain. Then there seems to be a massive divergence in counting and testing for the virus and recording virus deaths.
There are a lot of variables to control for an reliable study. And I seriously doubt any study has done so, particularly given the politicization of the crisis and the venal opportunism of Big Pharma and its bought and paid for medical journals.
Trailer Trash , Jun 11 2020 19:16 utc | 2
Western arrogance, sure, but is that the most important factor?vk , Jun 11 2020 19:34 utc | 3Since US peons live in a democracy, let's review the meeting minutes and memos and emails of our dear leaders to see what their thinking was. Oh wait. There are no meeting minutes. Everything is secret and opaque so as to not worry the pretty little heads of peons.
Guess we are once again reduced to speculation and gossip. Let the rumors begin.
I don't think the mask problem has anything to do with Western arrogance. Not at all.Skeletor , Jun 11 2020 19:45 utc | 4The mask problem has a much simpler origin: the Western nations simply don't have the means to give masks for everyone anymore. It is heavily deindustrialized.
Had they had mask manufacturing sectors at home, you bet your soul the Western governments would be buying them at inflated prices (to enrich the local capitalist) and enforce their use with an enthusiasm never seen before. A cultural shift towards daily mask use would sprout overnight and no westerner would complain.
I know this because we have countless examples in History. The substitution of alcoholic beverages for tea in industrial England. The creation of the leisure and entertainment industries during the rise of Fordism. The invention of the concepts of infancy and adolescence. Etc. etc. etc.
We observed the lack of masks crisis in the West immediately. The USA begun to intercept ships loaded with masks (and ventilators) from China in Malaysia. Spain and France begun to resort to Aliexpress test kits to have the quantity necessary and lost the money with subpar masks and kits. Healthcare workers are without adequate PPE in the UK, USA and probably many other Western countries (at least, I've never seen any Western doctor or nurse with nearly the equipment of their Chinese counterparts).
The West's problem is called deindustrialization. Culture is always fixable - survival generally being the best teacher. But lack of resources cannot be solved just with sheer will.
Why didn't we copy them?JohnH , Jun 11 2020 19:59 utc | 5Because everything is politics all the time.
Ergo amongst other things, your royal "we" also believed they could pin the deaths and economic pain on Trump alone and then ride that all the way to an election victory on November 3.
And now it has backfired/not gone as planned.
If journalists are worried about Covid-19 all over again, why don't they ask their beloved Fauci why he didn't tell the rioters and looters to wear a face mask or "social distance" during last week when they were all outside running amok and spreading Covid-19?
But he suddenly pops up this week and the fear mongering starts again... and the feeble fall in line again lol
Anyway. Maybe Dr Fauci will give a press conference next week dressed in Kente clothing....
I swear 2020 is like we are living in a simulation lol
The CDC actually advised against wearing masks until April 6, even though there were studies showing that some types of home-made masks were 70% effective against molecules the size of Corona. N95 were found to be 95% effective.Lubo , Jun 11 2020 20:17 utc | 6What stupidity!!! Who in his right mind would counsel against using a 75% effective mask, when it was the only readily available option?!?
It's like counseling against wearing condoms because they're not 100% effective.
The sheer incompetence boggles the mind.
Check this: https://youtu.be/yWsyNB95ljYLeser , Jun 11 2020 20:26 utc | 7The virus has peaked in Germany a long time ago and in fact before the lockdown. By now, herd immunity is reached, achieved by about half, or more, of the population not being susceptible to this type of coronavirus. A fair amount, perhaps 60%, never were due to background immunity from prior conoravirus infections, others have built it since, most of those without realising as symptoms or rare and if occurring, mostly mild. The authorities can find as many "cases" as they want, at any day they want, by adjusting testing activity. It's the most easily manipulated number. Seeing our host trust precisely that number (and base a story on it) from a government that has been persistently lying about this winter's flu, and has broken the constitution multiple times to ram through the measures, is surprising.Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:30 utc | 8Deaths from delayed surgeries and medical treatments are estimated up to 125,000 - in Germany alone, suicides are already spiking. Abuse of children and women at home is at alarming levels, doctors report injuries so severe as usually seen in car crashs.
The measures are nothing short of carefully planned (Event 201), premeditated mass murder.
What about masks? Here a snapshot of the science on it:
On the effectiveness of masks
Regardless of the comparatively low lethality of Covid19 in the general population (see above), there is still no scientific evidence for the effectiveness of masks in healthy and asymptomatic people in everyday life.A cross-country study by the University of East Anglia came to the conclusion that a mask requirement was of no benefit and could even increase the risk of infection.
Two US professors and experts in respiratory and infection protection from the University of Illinois explain in an essay that respiratory masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). The widespread use of masks didn't prevent the outbreak in the Chinese city of Wuhan, either.
A study from April 2020 in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine came to the conclusion that neither fabric masks nor surgical masks can prevent the spread of the Covid19 virus by coughing.
An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 also comes to the conclusion that respiratory masks offer little or no protection in everyday life. The call for a mask requirement is described as an "irrational fear reflex".
A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the U.S. CDC also found that respirators had no effect.
The WHO moreover declared in June that truly "asymptomatic transmission" is in fact "very rare", as data from numerous countries showed. Some of the few confirmed cases were due to direct body contact, i.e. shaking hands or kissing.
In Austria, the mask requirement in retail and catering will be lifted again from mid-June. A mask requirement was never introduced in Sweden because it "does not offer additional protection for the population", as the health authority explained.
And we must remember what Nassim Taleb pointed out...even if your mask is only 30% effective, if the person you're interacting with also has a mask which is only 30% effective, the multiplicative properties of probability means the actual probability of neither of you getting infected is much greater than 30%.Leser , Jun 11 2020 20:32 utc | 9I ordered my first batch of ten masks from Aliexpress on April 4, followed by an order of five more (expensive ones at $7 each) from LA Police Gear on April 6 and five more from LAPG on April 14. So I have enough masks to rotate them daily for two weeks. So I don't have to worry about washing them or whatever, per the advice of the guy who invented the filter who said leaving a mask unused for at least 4-5 days should be sufficient to to enable any collected virus particles to die.
As for the study, I'm not sure it is reliable, given the possible factors surrounding entire cities. A "simulated city" just might not be accurate enough, especially when referring to relatively low numbers of cases per city. It would be more persuasive if there was a country that wore masks and one that didn't. But then we've already seen that: the US versus any Asian country.
In my observations, most people are wearing masks, but they seem to be doing so rather haphazardly. A lot of people wear them for a bit, then let them hang around their necks when they get tired of the heat buildup inside the mask. I had to stop yesterday during a supply run when my nose started running and I had to shift the mask off partly in order to deal with that. That made me concerned coming close to my nose with a tissue, not knowing whether there might be any virus particles on the plastic gloves covering my hands. Normally I don't touch my face when out of my room, and once back in the room I immediately wash my hands, remove the mask, then apply hand sanitizer. Interrupting that process did not make me happy.
A lot of people, especially blacks and the homeless, aren't wearing masks at all. The homeless obviously have little ability to acquire them (at least manufactured ones), and a certain number of lower-class blacks are seemingly oblivious to the risk, despite blacks being hit harder than whites by the virus.
Some Really Depressing Covid-19 Death Data
If they had died at the same rate as White Americans, at least 14,000 Black Americans would still be aliveAnd it's not likely to get much better in the summer:
Get Ready for a Long, Hot, Coronavirus Summer
Cases surge in several states as the coronavirus digs in for the long haul
In fact, the nationwide decline in "the curve" of daily new cases, from a peak of 35,000 in early April to around 20,000 in recent weeks, has been obfuscated by the fact that four states with 40% of the nationwide case total -- New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Illinois -- experienced significant declines."That is hiding the fact that the majority of other states are either increasing their numbers or fluctuating in fits and starts around a peak," says Mark Cameron, PhD, an immunologist and medical researcher in the School of Medicine at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio. "Our victory lap has started too quickly."
The nationwide curve was flattened thanks to stay-at-home orders and other preventive measures, Cameron says. But rather than continuing to bend the curve down, as many other countries have done, ours is on a "disappointing plateau," he says, a "slow burn" that's putting seeds of the virus in every nook and cranny of the country.
That means the current wave of infections could be far from over, Cameron says. It might simply persist at current daily case levels, or even possibly swell this summer and then, if it recedes at all, roar back as a larger wave this fall.
..but: Despite this evidence, a group called "masks4all", which was founded by a "young leader" of the World Economic Forum (WEF) Davos, is advocating worldwide mask requirements. Several governments and the WHO appear to be responding to this campaign.Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:33 utc | 10While for medical purposes it's a waste of time and resources (might even lead to additional health problems), the masks are more likely to have a psychological or political function ("muzzle" or "visible sign of obedience") and that wearing them frequently.
Posted by: Leser | Jun 11 2020 20:26 utc | 7 The WHO moreover declared in June that truly "asymptomatic transmission" is in fact "very rare"Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:39 utc | 11And a couple days later, they walked that back, after scientists everywhere were stunned by the stupid statement.
Anyone who thinks masks don't help is an idiot or has an agenda.
It's amazing how some people cherry pick their information.
This is appropriate given Leser at 7Noirette , Jun 11 2020 20:43 utc | 12Confessions of a Reformed Coronavirus Skeptic
Humans like easy answers -- even if those answers contradict the facts
A few days ago, I was talking to someone for work, and they started ranting about how the "whole coronavirus thing" is a conspiracy. How it's blown out of proportion and isn't any worse than the seasonal flu. I inwardly rolled my eyes. Later that day, I mocked him while talking to my wife.But not so long ago, I was that guy. Sure, he's got to have his fact-resistance turned up to a nine or ten to still be in denial at this point. But it would be hypocritical of me to get too self-congratulatory.
The WHO did not recommend the wearing of masks. Which was why for ex. Switz. did not at the start.Noirette , Jun 11 2020 20:47 utc | 13March 31. CNN.
WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html
April 7. Business Insider.
WHO says there is no need for healthy people to wear face masks, days after the CDC told all Americans to cover their faces.
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-no-need-for-healthy-people-to-wear-face-masks-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
May 28. Fox news.
WHO guidance: Healthy people should wear masks only when 'taking care of' coronavirus patients.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-guidance-healthy-people-wear-masks-around-coronavirus-patients
(MSM actually reflects advice not too badly; plus, it is what the public saw.)
April 6. WHO publishes 'interim guidance.' PDF.
excerpt.
"Studies of human coronaviruses provide evidence that the use of a medical mask can prevent the spread of infectious droplets from an infected person to someone else and potential contamination of the environment by these droplets. There is limited evidence that wearing a medical mask by healthy individuals in the households or among contacts of a sick patient, or among attendees of mass gatherings may be beneficial as a preventive measure. However, there is currently no evidence that wearing a mask (whether medical or other types) by healthy persons in the wider community setting, including universal community masking, can prevent them from infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19. .. Medical masks should be reserved for health care workers. .The use of medical masks in the community may create a false sense of security "
for June I could not find any extra proper doc from WHO. see for ex.
https://bit.ly/37jK2cr -- WHO doc 5 june that only refers to previous doc.
the above is for info about WHO, I am not expressing a personal opinion.poor moa , Jun 11 2020 20:47 utc | 14"synthetic control city": total bullshit. So many arbitrary parameters you can get any result you like. Why not do a real comparison?Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:48 utc | 15And: Japan had no "extensive testing and contact tracing" at all. In fact Japan had the LEAST testing of all industrial countries. No testing, no panic, no problems.
Wuhan is using way more masks than Japan (also due to air pollution). How did that stop the outbreak?? Not at all.
MoA has been consistently wrong with every aspect of this pandemic. Even worse, it totally failed to recognize the huge political dimension.
Don't Ask What Caused the Spike in Cases -- Ask What the U.S. Will Do About Themkarlof1 , Jun 11 2020 20:48 utc | 16
We likely won't know for certain where new cases are coming from. How the U.S. responds to those cases is what really matters.
Many states do not have the contact tracing capacity needed to reopen safely. At the beginning of May, NPR created a map of states whose contact tracing forces met the need estimated by public health officials, and the vast majority did not meet them. Some states are working to increase their contact tracing capacity, but some experts interviewed by STAT news cautioned that it's not enough.Bottom line: The US botched the initial response by being too slow, and it is not botching the re-opening. We can assume it will botch the second wave. Trump has already said there will be no lockdown even for a second wave (not that it matters what he says now.)
It's like the old line: "Cheer up, things could be worse. So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse." Well, I didn't bother "cheering up" in the first place. My procedures to deal with this remain in place and will remain in place until there is 1) a vaccine, or 2) an effective treatment that prevents death and severe long-term effects of infection.
Thanks b! The study proves the obvious, IMO. The behavior exhibited by those inhabiting Western nations proves the degree with which they care for themselves, their families, and their neighbors in the most damning manner. Clearly collectivist societies will perform better than individualist societies, all other things being equal.Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:52 utc | 17Trailer Trash @2--
I beg to differ as there're two very good timelines documenting TrumpCo actions in the run up to the outbreak that proves beyond reasonable doubt that the policy employed was a Treasonous Do Nothing Policy that runs totally against the rationale for the Constitution and the government it established--the very instrument Trump swore to obey and uphold. I've incorporated both into the essay I'm currently writing. This one compiled by Raw Story is the more detailed of the two as this example shows:
"On February 1, 2018, the Washington Post reported that 'CDC to cut by 80 percent efforts to prevent global disease outbreak' (6): 'The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off (7) and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. (8) Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. (9) And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent (10), the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced.'"
And as you see from the date, that was just the beginning of the dismantling of what was erected to "provide for the common defence."
Posted by: poor moa | Jun 11 2020 20:47 utc | 14 Wuhan is using way more masks than Japan (also due to air pollution). How did that stop the outbreak?? Not at all.poor moa , Jun 11 2020 20:55 utc | 18When the outbreak started, Wuhan hospitals were not using KN95 - they were using surgical masks. Thousands of medical personnel were infected.
When the Chinese government brought in scores of thousands of additional medical personnel, they wore KN95 masks. None were infected.
Take your troll shit elsewhere.
Actually, the "study" you cite (it's not published anyway) refutes itself right away. They say all German cities introduced masks between April 20 and 29. Then why did cases not drop to zero as they claim for Jena? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_GermanyRichard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:59 utc | 19Arizona Could Be In Trouble. Here's What We Can LearnRichard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 21:04 utc | 20
Reopening without contact tracing is irresponsible
Cases in Arizona are up 240% in last two weeks and hospitalizations are up 77% this past month, 31% this week alone. The positive rate for Covid-19 testing is increasing. That's not a great combination.The largest hospital system in the state has been ringing the alarm. That they are running short of ICU capacity. Loudly.
Meanwhile, other states and Puerto Rico have had their largest number of daily cases since this started, according to the Washington Post.
Yet we still have idiots proclaiming their bullshit here. b is going to have to do a lot of "cleansing" today.
And repeating the facts about the latest WHO message disaster...before more trolls show up to spread bullshit.poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:06 utc | 21What the WHO Really Meant Regarding Asymptomatic Spread
Clearing up major coronavirus confusion
Maria Van Kerkhove, PhD, the World Health Organization's technical lead for the coronavirus response and head of the emerging diseases and zoonoses unit, clarified that when she said asymptomatic spread was "very rare" on Monday, that she was answering a question asked in a presser, and not sharing an official WHO policy or statement.She added that some modeling groups have estimated that 40% of transmission may be due to asymptomatic spread, but that is a mathematical modeling estimate and a definitive answer is still unknown, in part because data from contact tracing studies remains limited.
It's important to note that asymptomatic people who never exhibit signs of Covid-19 are different from pre-symptomatic people who initially don't have symptoms but develop them later. It's difficult, from a research standpoint, to tease these two groups apart.
It looks like they don't even control for the number of tests. Total junk.uncle tungsten , Jun 11 2020 21:10 utc | 22Masks are fine. They build confidence when people are threatened with an awful death and where 'experts' give conficting advice. They are personaly empowering. Wear one now.poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:13 utc | 23The WHO is not looking good.
The Lancet and NEJM are trashed.
The China response was a brilliant example to the world.
The mask is a mighty useful response.
Sunlight is wonderful.Alright, on page 28 in annex C they compare the effect of masks in other German cities, and found no effect. In some cities infections got even worse after introducing masks. It is clear Jena is a special case, perhaps they stopped testing or people stopped interacting or whatever.poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:18 utc | 24The study is another fraud, and Moa once again fell for it. What a shame. I'm sure he didn't even read until page 28.
I hope you won't delete my comments, everybody should decide for themselves if this study has any merit.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 20:52 utc | 17poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:27 utc | 25Total bullshit. We're talking about standard face masks for the community here.
Read my other comments, the study is junk. You have been bamboozled.
The WHO stated the obvious: the vast majority of people remain asymptomatic, and asymptomatic people don't spread the virus (which is why children don't spread the virus). Pre-symptomatic is possible if you get really close, but this is true for common cold as well.poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:32 utc | 26So what paranoid folks like you really need to show is if mandatory mask is any better than masks only for sick people or sick people simply staying home. Hint: it isn't.
Quote from the "study": "In addition to Jena, we test for treatment effects in Nordhausen, Rottweil, Main-Kinzig-Kreis, and Wolfsburg (compare Figure 1). --- As the figure shows, the result is 2:1:1. Rottweil and Wolfsburg display a positive effect of mandatory mask wearing, just as Jena. The results in Nordhausen are very small or unclear. In the region of Main-Kinzig, it even seems to be the case that masks increased the number of cases relative to the synthetic control group. " (page 28)Ghost Ship , Jun 11 2020 21:35 utc | 27So obviously, masks aren't important at all. Other factors are at play.
I blame it on the communists - Jena is in what was formerly East Germany and the inhabitants of Jena are still oppressed by their communist upbringing. Communism in Jena must be rooted out and the German citizens of Jena must be free to die from COVID-19 just like the freedom-loving morons in the good old U S of A, y'all. Yee haw. USA! USA! USA! Would you go all the way for the U.S.A?
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Skeletor , Jun 11 2020 19:45 utc | 4
If journalists are worried about Covid-19 all over again, why don't they ask their beloved Fauci why he didn't tell the rioters and looters to wear a face mask or "social distance" during last week when they were all outside running amok and spreading Covid-19?But he suddenly pops up this week and the fear mongering starts again... and the feeble fall in line again lol
Anyway. Maybe Dr Fauci will give a press conference next week dressed in Kente clothing....
I swear 2020 is like we are living in a simulation lol
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Truth Seeker , 3 weeks ago (edited)He intentionally broke the moratorium on the gain of function research studies and then paid 3.7 million to china's virology lab in Wuhan to continue it. Where did this pandemic start from again? He is guilty and should be thrown into a pit.
Kenton Turner , 3 weeks agoFauci is the same man who predicted that Trump will face a virus pandemic. Did he know something we did not know?
Mrs Smith , 3 weeks agoAnd Dr. Faucci is still lieing when he says that he didn't realize that it was so transmittable early on because he was heavily invested in the Wuhan Lab for a long time before the outbreak! And heavily invested in the WHO at the same time!
Armida Ruiz-Martinez , 3 weeks agoThe management of this virus has been a clusterfart from the get-go.
Bobby S , 2 weeks agoThe only issue that I see is that Dr. Fauci wasn't lied too by the W.H.O. He was in full know of what was going on and because of his role in the research in China, he went along with the the guidelines the W.H.O. Its all a cover up and Dr. Fauci needs to be investigated as well.
Trapper Bill , 2 weeks agoFauci has been playing both sides. He needs to be investigated to find out what he's been up to.
damason444 , 2 weeks agoFauci suffers from little man syndrome we gave him a little too much authority and he abused it.
Covid_is _a_hoax , 2 weeks agoThere is a sealed indictment sitting on the Resolute Desk with Fauci's name on it involving treason and a life sentence to Gitmo.
Tony Lassman , 2 weeks ago"Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much pain but still time. There is good out there. We oppose deception."
Bailey , 3 weeks agoHe was told in USA to stop developing covid 19 in the USA So.... he paid to send the unfinished virus to China And they finished the job. Research & let me know if this isn't the truth . If it is true find out why he did & then before you cut off his head for treason inject him with vaccines he developed & leave for 1 year & watch results
Gabriel Afonso , 1 month agoFauci is entirely too elderly (and out of experience) to be making judgement calls for the entire country. One man alone should not be making decisions as he is doing.
Scott Collom , 2 weeks ago79 years old....I thought he was younger....wow
chazIII7III , 2 weeks agoFauci knew exactly what he was doing.Hes not a victim,hes a criminal.
Tex Assholdem , 3 weeks agoI never trusted Faucci. He's a snake in the grass.
Tebayane Rose , 2 weeks agoDr. Fauci is a sneaky liar. Why are people acting like he cares about us over his own wallet? He doesn't.
He has patent on virus and invested 3.7 million. Very old globalist
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Posted on May 11, 2020 by tonyheller
https://www.youtube.com/embed/LScHAvufgfM?feature=oembed
- richard verney says: May 11, 2020 at 12:40 am
The thing about masks is not that it protects the wearer, of course, it does not protect the wearer, especially with the extra fiddling that Fauci alludes to.
The purpose of the mask is that if the wearer has the virus and is a carrier, the mask protects others from that carrier. The person infected wearing a mask coughs, splutters, sneezes into the mask which captures most of virus and reduces its spread to other people.
Hospital staff have traditionally worn masks to protect patients, who may have a poor immune system, from any illness that the doctor/nurse may be carrying.
All of this has been known for decades. Reply
- tonyheller says: May 11, 2020 at 1:04 am
I have done lots of travelling over the past few months, and have not seen one person coughing or sneezing. Fauci said very clearly that people should not be wearing masks. If someone thinks they are infected with a virus, they should not being going out in public. Reply
- Charles Straw says: May 11, 2020 at 3:31 am
Because I completely blocked out mainstream media when the quarantine started, this is actually the first time I've heard Fauci speak he reminds me of Mel Brooks or of some bad actor in a bad sit-com he doesn't seem that smart is he smart?
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"Coronavirus vaccine developers are chasing outbreaks before they disappear" Washpost
"The top teams rushing to develop coronavirus vaccines are alerting governments, health officials and shareholders that they may have a big problem : The outbreaks in their countries may be getting too small to quickly determine whether vaccines work
A leader of the Oxford University group, one of the furthest ahead with human trials, admits the reality is paradoxical, even "bizarre," but said the declining numbers of new infections this summer could be one of the big hurdles vaccine developers face in the global race to beat down the virus.
Even as new cases are growing worldwide, transmission rates are falling in Britain, China and many of the hardest-hit regions in the United States -- the three countries that have experimental vaccines ready to move into large-scale human testing in June, July and August." Washpost
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Well, pilgrims it would seem that the Post staff does not see the irony in their own writing, or perhaps they do. There have been scattered evidences of rationality there lately. Even as Democrat governors and mayors across the country drag their feet on the re-opening of the American economy, infection rates are falling. In the Faucibirxist view of things everything depends on vaccine development (or herd immunity post holocaust). But, alas there just aren't enough new, vibrant infections to make development of the vaccines convenient. What will happen to the flow of government money to these projects if this phenomenon becomes general knowledge. Someone at the Post should be disciplined for this indiscretion. pl
Fred , 10 June 2020 at 09:34 AM
"What will happen to the flow of government money to these projects if this phenomenon becomes general knowledge."Jim , 10 June 2020 at 11:50 AMWell Fauci is almost 80 so I think he's set for life. I hear the left wants lots of redevelopment funds and jobs programs, with the attendant opportunities for graft that comes with them, for thier cities which we are all assured had neither rioting nor looting.
Thank you Col. Lang for all the posts on novel coronavirus.Laura Wilson , 10 June 2020 at 01:04 PMFor shining light on this, this utter failure by the medical community and their various and sundry enablers in government and in business.
On these liars and charlatans and killers and criminals.
The video below is about an hour long. It is a nurse, who worked in NYC hospital, the alleged epi center of epi centers.
She basically says, without saying directly, but points to the fact that doctors were murdering patients there, it seems.
She paints a picture of doctors not as scientists but as zealots, as neo neanderthals, as craven monsters, who care not about life, the elderly, the sick, the least among us.
As Nurse Ratchets
Towards the end of video, she recounts her last day at this hospital, discussing a patient she had nursed for many days, and who was doing fine, making progress, . . . and how she was removed from his bed on direct orders, sent to the ER where she was not assigned, and 20 minutes later, the man she was caring for is dead.
These sorts of stories abound; this rage is not going away anytime soon. This is the rage, and what caused it, that our "lords and masters" who censor us and tell us black is white, and want to destroy our country. . . this is the rage they don't want to see expressed and exposed. Will they get their way?
http://edwardcurtin.com/the-undercover-epicenter-nurse-watch-weep-and-rage/
-30-Well...they can always test their vaccines in the USA. We seem not to be faring as well and can help out. (I believe this is a glass half-full moment.)Walter Lang , 10 June 2020 at 01:27 PMLaura Wilsonoptimax , 10 June 2020 at 01:32 PMStill hysteric. if you are not over 65 and not in compromised health the disease is rarely fatal.
Trump needs to stop the $600 a week federal bonus to the unemployed. My neighbor told me about how his daughter-in-law worked one day a week as a barmaid before the virus shut the bar down and made a little over a hundred a week. Oregon unemployment pays her 150 a week and with the added 600 she now makes over 7 times what she did working. How many protesters and rioters are just as flush getting paid to party in the street? Most i'd say. That makes these government funded protests a powerful voice and recruitment tool for the Democratic Party.Fred , 10 June 2020 at 03:17 PMEnding the federal subsidy to the unemployed would reduce, if not stop, the demonstrations and mau-mauing of the country.
optimax,LA Sox Fan , 10 June 2020 at 03:21 PMAbsolutely. There were howls of protests before Minneapolis when Georgia, Florida and Texas started tellling people that if they recieved a recall to work notice from an employer and refused to go they would be considered a voluntary quit and no longer eligable for unemployment insurance payments. They'll howl again when they figure out this is all taxable income.
Take everything the WaPo claims with a grain of salt. There is no real worry over lower covid infections. What made Covid decrease was the lockdowns. Remove the lockdowns and covid infection rates will climb, as we are seeing in the already reopened states.rho , 10 June 2020 at 09:29 PMThen when fall rolls around, and people are stuck indoors again, rates will skyrocket. There will be plenty of test subjects for a vaccine.
With the spread rate of the coronavirus, any outbreak of the infection will peter out once the total immunity rate of the population approaches 65-70 percent.In Bergamo (Italy), 57 percent a population sample have tested positive for coronavirus antibodies, which means that they must have had the infection before and are now most likely immune.
If you are a Karen, then don't listen to me, but take it from the German government's very own propaganda outlet, Deutsche Welle:
"Out of nearly 10,000 Bergamo residents who had their blood tested between April 23 and June 3, 57% had antibodies, indicating they had come into contact with the virus and developed an immune response.
Health authorities said the sample size was 'sufficiently broad' to be a reliable indicator of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 among Bergamo province's population."
Nobody in Bergamo will need a coronavirus vaccine once its development is finished - whenever that may happen, if at all.
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jef , Jun 7 2020 14:09 utc | 1
So we had two major pandemic exercises last year projecting almost exactly what did happen with the corona virus. First was Crimson Contagion Jan thru Aug 2019https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion
Then Event 201 the international war gaming of a global pandemic almost exactly like what happened which took place only months before the real pandemic on October 2019
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
So why is it ok for TPTB to act like it wasn't happening or it was a complete supprise "no one could have known" and were completely unprepared?
Mark2 , Jun 7 2020 14:20 utc | 2
Jef @ 1
A week before the Skripal poisoning at Salisbury U.K. 'they had a chemical warfare exercise a few miles up the road on Salisbury Plain.
Jun 06, 2020 | www.rt.com
Fauci, who sits on the White House Coronavirus Task Force, says he finds the protests across the nation "very concerning" and a "perfect recipe" for a surge in Covid-19 cases.
Jun 04, 2020 | www.rt.com
The British scientist known as Professor Lockdown has undermined the draconian policy he unleashed on the world by confessing that Britain hasn't fared any better in tackling the disease than the laid-back Scandis. Professor Neil Ferguson probably woke up this morning breathing a massive sigh of relief because he hadn't been ripped to shreds again in the British newspapers for this second time in just under a month – this time over his startling admission that there has been no significant difference in the levels of Covid-19 suppression when comparing the UK and Sweden.
During his evidence to the House of Lords Science and Technology Committee on Tuesday, he said:
Also on rt.com 'Very destructive' SECOND wave of Covid-19 may come as countries lift restrictions, WHO warns"They [Swedish scientists] came to a different policy conclusion based really on quite similar science. I don't agree with it but scientifically they're not far from scientists in any part of the world."
He then acknowledged that the Swedish authorities had "got a long way to the same effect" without a full lockdown.
In other words, in the type of roundabout waffling way you'd expect from a bumbling boffin, the scientist – dubbed 'Professor Lockdown' after he cajoled Boris Johnson into bringing the British economy to a screeching halt – reckons Sweden has essentially coped very well without being forced into any draconian lockdown, thank you very much.
So where was the indignation about how his recommendations f**ked up the economy and made people prisoners in their own homes? It certainly wasn't to be seen splashed across any British front pages. Indeed, it was hard enough to find much, if any, coverage of this very significant news story on Wednesday.
Read moreIt was buried inside the Daily Telegraph on page seven, running across a third of a page or less, with a very accurate subheading stating in clear black and white: "Professor admits radical Scandinavian policy worked as well as British policy of shutting down."
The evidence from the two countries' differing approaches has left the professor with little escape route. UK (full lockdown/businesses shut down): 579 Covid-19 deaths per million of population. Sweden (softer restrictions/businesses kept open): 442 deaths per million.
But why make such a startling confession now, when he could have wriggled away by saying it's too early to assess the data as the disease is still running its course? The cynic in me wonders if Dr Ferguson's matter-of-fact admission that a full lockdown probably didn't make a blind bit of difference was fueled by ulterior motives. Seeing as his own reputation is already in tatters, was it a warped act of revenge against Boris Johnson for being forced to fall on his sword after being caught breaking lockdown with his married lover?
Or here's one for conspiracy theorists: instead of wanting to throw BoJo under the bus, could it have been a case of wanting to hide something else that's about to come down the track? With America now burning in the wake of the atrocious murder of George Floyd, the confession at this juncture reminds me somewhat of how a British government spin doctor sent out a memo only 30 minutes after the second plane hit the Twin Towers on 9/11 with the cynical recommendation that "it's now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury."
Also on rt.com I've signed death certificates during Covid-19. Here's why you can't trust any of the statistics on the number of victimsAt the moment, the biggest accusation they could face is needlessly making a hames (for those of you who aren't Irish, this means a 'big mess') of the economy. Even Sweden's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has since said that, while he regrets not implanting stricter measures to stop the spread of Covid-19, he "still would not have gone as far as other European countries did."
But the Swede being plagued with self-doubt sounds much more like someone racked with guilt about "what ifs?" like an Oskar Schindler type of character who was pictured crying at the end of the Spielberg film because he was convinced he could've done better.
According to Aric Dromi, CEO of the Sweden-based Tempus Motu Think Tank, both the UK and Sweden's response to Covid-19 is "ego driven and lacking in strategy." He told me:
Also on rt.com BoJo government blasted again as new lockdown 'SEX BAN' prompts orgy of scorn and mockery"Differences in the social structure between the UK and Sweden should have made a bigger impact between the numbers infected. The Swedish economy, for example, far from being protected by remaining open, has still been badly damaged as it relies heavily on exports, despite the lack of a lockdown. For both countries, it represents a human sacrifice on the altar of economics, and it is wholly unacceptable."
It all reminds me of when John Cleese in the 'Gourmet Night' episode of 'Fawlty Towers' told guests that there were only three different types of duck on the menu that night – with orange, with cherries or "surprise," which turned out to be "duck without oranges or cherries." And if you don't like duck? As Basil Fawlty quipped , "Ah, well, if you don't like duck, uhhh, you're rather stuck."
At the end of the day, it might still be too early to fully know which was the right way to go, which begs the question: Why did Prof. Ferguson jump the gun and heap such fulsome praise – no pun intended here – on the Swedish model? Whatever way you spin it here, he has, once again, " undermined " the lockdown just like he did " after violating quarantine he designed to meet married lover."
He might've been dubbed "Dr Strangelove" after that embarrassing slip up – but now he just comes across as a nutty professor after his latest confession. These strong words might just come back to haunt BoJo when he next goes before the electorate. With a crippled economy thanks to the draconian measures, he's going to find the next election will be all about his mishandling of Covid-19, and specifically, "the economy, stupid."
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vk , Jun 3 2020 22:43 utc | 55The C.D.C. waited 'its entire existence for this moment'. What went wrong?Propaganda never stops:
The technology was old, the data poor, the bureaucracy slow, the guidance confusing, the administration not in agreement. The coronavirus shook the world's premier health agency , creating a loss of confidence and hampering the U.S. response to the crisis"World's premier health agency"?
I think the illusion the C.D.C. was the "world's premier health agency" comes from the fact that the USA has, by far, the largest and most powerful pharmaceutical sector in the world (which Americans call "Big Pharma"). If you have the biggest pharma, you will have the most sheer volume of human trials and new drug patents. This, by osmosis, puts your country's C.D.C. at the forefront of most drug regulation - which the rest of the world's C.D.C.s will simply copy and paste for obvious reasons (i.e. they won't do the same work twice). That doesn't mean your C.D.C. is "the premier". For instance, it could simply be the most corrupt, the C.D.C. which is at the right place, the right time. An example for this is the USA's airplane equivalent to the C.D.C., which sold itself off to Boeing, resulting in the 737 MAX fiasco.
May 28, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
Donald Trump launched a new vaccine war in May, but not against the virus. It was against the world. The United States and the UK were the only two holdouts in the World Health Assembly from the declaration that vaccines and medicines for COVID-19 should be available as public goods , and not under exclusive patent rights. The United States explicitly disassociated itself from the patent pool call, talking instead of "the critical role that intellectual property plays" -- in other words, patents for vaccines and medicines. Having badly botched his COVID-19 response, Trump is trying to redeem his electoral fortunes in the November elections this year by promising an early vaccine. The 2020 version of Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan is shaping up to be, essentially, " vaccines for us" -- but the rest of the world will have to queue up and pay what big pharma asks, as they will hold the patents.
In contrast, all other countries agreed with the Costa Rican proposal in the World Health Assembly that there should be a patent pool for all COVID-19 vaccines and medicines. President Xi said that Chinese vaccines would be available as a public good , a view also shared by European Union leaders . Among the 10 candidate vaccines in Phase 1 and 2 of clinical trials, the Chinese have five, the United States has three, and the UK and Germany have one each.
Trump has given an ultimatum to the World Health Organization (WHO) with a permanent withdrawal of funds if it does not mend its ways in 30 days. In sharp contrast, in the World Health Assembly (the highest decision-making body of the WHO), almost all countries, including close allies of the United States, rallied behind the WHO. The failure of the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) against COVID-19, with nearly four times the annual budget of the WHO, is visible to the world. The CDC failed to provide a successful test for SARS-CoV-2 in the critical months of February and March , while ignoring the WHO's successful test kits that were distributed to 120 countries.
Trump has yet to hold his administration and the CDC responsible for this criminal bungling. This, more than any other failure , is the reason that the U.S. numbers for COVID-19 are now more than 1.5 million and about a third of all global infections. Contrast this with China, the first to face an unknown epidemic, stopping it at 82,000 infections, and the amazing results that countries such as Vietnam and South Korea have produced.
One issue is now looming large over the COVID-19 pandemic. If we do not address the intellectual property rights issue in this pandemic, we are likely to see a repeat of the AIDS tragedy . People died for 10 years (1994-2004) as patented AIDS medicine was priced at $10,000 to $15,000 for a year's supply, far beyond their reach. Finally, patent laws in India allowed people to get AIDS medicine at less than a dollar a day , or $350 for a year's supply. Today, 80 percent of the world's AIDS medicine comes from India. For big pharma, profits trumped lives, and they will continue to do so, COVID or no COVID, unless we change the world.
Most countries have compulsory licensing provisions that will allow them to break patents in case of epidemics or health emergencies. Even the WTO, after a bitter fight, accepted in its Doha Declaration (2001) that countries, in a health emergency, have the right to allow any company to manufacture a patented drug without the patent holder's permission, and even import it from other countries.
Why is it, then, that countries are unable to break patents, even if there are provisions in their laws and in the TRIPS Agreement? The answer is their fear of U.S. sanctions against them. Every year, the U.S. Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) issues a Special 301 Report that it has used to threaten trade sanctions against any country that tries to compulsorily license any patented product. India figures prominently in this report year after year, for daring to issue a compulsory license in 2012 to Natco for nexavar, a cancer drug Bayer was selling for more than $65,000 a year . Marijn Dekkers, the CEO of Bayer, was quoted widely that this was "theft," and "We did not develop this medicine for Indians We developed it for Western patients who can afford it."
This leaves unanswered how many people even in the affluent West can afford a $65,000 bill for an illness. But there is no question that a bill of this magnitude is a death sentence for anybody but the super-rich in countries like India. Though a number of other drugs were under also consideration for compulsory licensing at that time, India has not exercised this provision again after receiving U.S. threats.
It is the fear that countries can break patents using their compulsory licensing powers that led to proposals for patent pooling. The argument was that since many of these diseases do not affect rich countries, big pharma should either let go of their patents to such patent pools, or philanthropic capital should fund the development of new drugs for this pool. Facing the pandemic of COVID-19, it is this idea of patent pooling that emerged in the recent World Health Assembly , WHA-73. All countries supported this proposal, barring the United States and its loyal camp follower, the UK . The United States also entered its disagreement on the final WHA resolution, being the lone objector to patent pooling of COVID-19 medicines and vaccines, noting "the critical role that intellectual property plays in incentivizing the development of new and improved health products."
While patent pooling is welcome if no other measure is available, it also makes it appear as if countries have no other recourse apart from the charity of big capital. What this hides, as charity always does, is that people and countries have legitimate rights even under TRIPS to break patents under conditions of an epidemic or a health emergency.
The United States, which screams murder if a compulsory license is issued by any country, has no such compunction when its own interests are threatened. During the anthrax scare in 2001, the U.S. Secretary of Health issued a threat to Bayer under "eminent domain for patents" for licensing the anthrax-treatment drug ciprofloxacin to other manufacturers. Bayer folded, and agreed to supply the quantity at a price that the U.S. government had set. And without a whimper. Yes, this is the same Bayer that considers India as a "thief" for issuing a compulsory license!
The vaccination for COVID-19 might need to be repeated each year, as we still do not know the duration of its protection. It is unlikely that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 will provide a lifetime immunity like the smallpox vaccine. Unlike AIDS, where the patient numbers were smaller and were unfortunately stigmatized in different ways, COVID-19 is a visible threat for everyone. Any attempt to hold people and governments to ransom on COVID-19 vaccines or medicines could see the collapse of the entire patent edifice of TRIPS that big pharma backed by the United States and major EU countries have built. That is why the more clever in the capitalist world have moved toward a voluntary patent pool for potential COVID-19 medicines and vaccines. A voluntary patent pool means that companies or institutions holding patents on medicines -- such as remdesivir -- or vaccines would voluntarily hand them over to such a pool. The terms and conditions of such a handover, meaning at concessional rates, or for only for certain regions, are still not clear -- leading to criticism that a voluntary patent pool is not a substitute for declaring that all such medicines and vaccines should be declared global public goods during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Unlike clever capital, Trump's response to the COVID-19 vaccine is to thuggishly bully his way through. He believes that with the unlimited money that the United States is now willing to put into the vaccine efforts, it will either beat everybody else to the winning post, or buy the company that is successful . If this strategy succeeds, he can then use "his" COVID-19 vaccine as a new instrument of global power. It is the United States that will then decide which countries get the vaccine (and for how much), and which ones don't.
Trump does not believe in a rule-based global order , even if the rules are biased in favor of the rich. He is walking out of various arms control agreements and has crippled the WTO . He believes that the United States, as the biggest economy and the most powerful military power , should have the untrammeled right to dictate to all countries. Threats of bombing and invasions can be combined with illegal unilateral sanctions ; and the latest weapon in his imaginary arsenal is withholding vaccines.
Trump's little problem is that the days of the United States being a sole global hegemon passed decades ago. The United States has shown itself as a fumbling giant and its epidemic response shambolic . It has been unable to provide virus tests to its people in time, and failed to stop the epidemic through containment/mitigation measures, which a number of other countries have done.
China and the EU have already agreed that any vaccine developed by them will be regarded as a public good. Even without that, once a medicine or a vaccine is known to be successful, any country with a reasonable scientific infrastructure can replicate the medicine or the vaccine, and manufacture it locally. India in particular has one of the largest generic drug and vaccine manufacturing capacities in the world. What prevents India, or any country for that matter, from manufacturing COVID-19 vaccines or drugs once they are developed -- only the empty threat of a failed hegemon on breaking patents?
Noel Nospamington , May 28, 2020 at 4:19 am
Clearly the Trump and Johnson administrations are completely wrong in not supporting that all COVID vaccines and medications be declared as public goods. This is an unprecedented global threat requiring unprecedented global response.
But as a Canadian I have to reluctantly admit, there are legimate reasons to oppose the WHO. Trump like a broken clock can be correct twice a day, even if he is wrong the other 1438 times a day.
The worst offence is that the WHO (World Health Organisation) is suppose to represent the world, and yet it deliberately excludes Taiwan, which it a known part of the world with 24 million people.
Taiwan was the first to inform the WHO of human-to-human transmissions in December, but was completely ignored. And Taiwan has best handled its response to the pandemic.
Personally I think that all countries should stop supporting the WHO until it restores Taiwan's observer status it previous had until 2016. The only other reasonable option would be to create an alternative health organisation to the WHO which does not exclude any part of the world.
The WHO also has other failings, including corruption, exorbitant travel expenses, and an unqualified president beholden to the CCP. But these failings pale in comparison to Taiwan's exclusion, and hopefully the other failings can be fixed within the organisation.
Amfortas the hippie , May 28, 2020 at 7:49 am
"Just how evil does this situation become? Is the general leadership of the American political economy trying to be evil just for the fun of it?"
And at what point does the general indifference to this state of affairs that still, incredibly, obtains, turn over into mass outrage and condemnation?
Skrelli, Bayer, and all the rest are frelling evil. Extortion writ large, with easily preventable death and suffering.it did NOT begin with trump.It's been there for most of my life. What will it take for ordinary people to get mad enough about it all to do something about it?
Even in this article, the unspoken assumption is that our hands are somehow tied that these corps have agency far beyond anyone else's but those corps can be seized, and exist only at the pleasure of governments in the places they pretend to exist in.
They are a human creation an Egregore, set tottering about as if it were willful and alive but even Lefties treat them as untouchable godlike entities "oh, well lets appeal to "Benevolent Capital, instead "
"Behold, I show you the last man. 'What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?' thus asks the last man, and blinks. The earth has become small, and on it hops the last man, who makes everything small. His race is as ineradicable as the flea; the last man lives longest. 'We have invented happiness,'say the last men, and they blink. They have left the regions where it was hard to live, for one needs warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him, for one needs warmth
One still works, for work is a form of entertainment. But one is careful lest the entertainment be too harrowing. One no longer becomes poor or rich: both require too much exertion. Who still wants to rule? Who obey? Both require too much exertion.
No shepherd and one herd! Everybody wants the same, everybody is the same: whoever feels different goes voluntarily into a madhouse. 'Formerly, all the world was mad,' say the most refined, and they blink
One has one's little pleasure for the day and one's little pleasure for the night: but one has a regard for health. 'We have invented happiness,' say the last men, and they blink.""
-Zarathustra
mpalomar , May 28, 2020 at 8:50 am
As you note it's about profits. One of the disturbing condemnations of the now fading American Century, which most USians remain contentedly oblivious to is that during their watch as global hegemon, the US, in what can be seen, in the best light, as bad faith, worked to undermine the democratic functionality of international cooperative organizations like the WHO, the UN, etc.
Thus when emergencies arise such as international diplomatic crisis or pandemics, it is found these organisations have been rendered untrustworthy, corrupted and unreliable; unsuited to purpose. American exceptionalism?
VietnamVet , May 28, 2020 at 5:55 am
It is clear now that the USA will not fund a national public health system to fight the coronavirus epidemic. The only conclusion is the reason is to allow Pharmaceutical Corporations to make huge profits by marketing patented drugs and vaccines to treat the illness; if and when, they become available sometime in the future.
Due to incompetence, lack of money and bad messengering; the economic reopening of the USA could kill close to a million Americans. To Republicans and Libertarians, this is of no concern. Democrats may acknowledge the deaths but say they are unavoidable.
For the Elite keeping their wealth is more important than spending a portion to prevent the huge costs in lives and treasure that will come once the Wuhan Coronavirus is established across North America like the related common cold.
Alternate Delegate , May 28, 2020 at 6:32 am
This is a teachable moment on the immorality of all "intellectual property". I am pleased to see that so many countries – other than the US and the UK – can get together on the common decency of allowing everyone to live, and set that above the "justice" of paying off intellectual property assignees. But these countries still have some ways to go in understanding that this applies to all information. That the creation of information can never be a living – in contrast to a living based on the creation of essential goods and services, about which we are learning so much right now! – and that information can never be owned.
They do not yet fully comprehend that all claims to own and extract rent from information are in fact crimes against humanity.
But they will. A teachable, as I said, moment.
Bugs Bunny , May 28, 2020 at 7:05 am
The intention of granting copyrights and patents was noble, to provide a limited monopoly on an invention or literary work for a limited period. IP has been distorted and twisted, extended to insane time limits to protect works that for any common sense thinkers have already become public domain (see, e.g. the Happy Birthday song, Mickey Mouse or re-formulation of a drug that's gone out of patent). Software should have had its own IP regime but that ship has sailed (thanks Bill G.).
Either a giant reform is due or people will ignore the law and infringe the IP. Chinese companies do it with impunity. Maybe they're right to do so.
John Wright , May 28, 2020 at 9:59 am
It appears that the USA has some real competition in the intellectual property game.
Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators
Patent applications for the top 20 offices, 2018
Rank Country Patent applications
1 China 1,542,002
2 U.S. 597,141
3 Japan 313,567
4 South Korea 209,992If one sums up USA patent applications vs Asia (China, Japan, SK), it is USA 597K vs Asia 2066K.
So Asia is putting in patent applications, vs the USA, at a 3.46 multiple vs the USA.
It will be interesting to see if the USA attitude about the sanctity of intellectual property changes when important key patents are held by the rest of the world.
timbers , May 28, 2020 at 8:33 am
Teachable moments. This could get really interesting if China or a non US & associated puppets develops an effect Covid treatment first.
I will dream of something like this: China develops vaccine, offers it free to US on condition it reduce it's Dept of War & Aggression by 80% and honor all existing and recently existing arms control agreement, and withdraws it's Naval forces though out the world and confines them to the North Atlantic and California coast.
ProNewerDeal , May 28, 2020 at 8:55 am
I wonder if a geopolitically powerful nation/bloc of nations such as China/India/etc might announce that they disregard pharma IP, & announce that they will adhere to the economist Dr Dean Baker-type policy of open source pharma R&D/recipe publication, any private manufacturer may manufacture & sell the resultant pharma SKU. I am referring to any type of pharma or medical device (such as ventilators), not just a COVID-19 vaccine. I would guesstimate that the "soft power" & goodwill generated by such a policy would be extremely beneficial to those nation(s). Furthermore, the US if it tried to retaliate via sanctions or other threats would get a corresponding additional decrease in soft power.
Raj , May 28, 2020 at 9:37 am
To be honest, in some instances Indian govt practices on pharma are quite bad. It is extremely hard in some instances to recoup investments at prices they ask for.
May 28, 2020 | www.rt.com
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has stealthily attempted to rewrite history, deleting his controversial order requiring nursing homes to admit Covid-19 patients from the state health website and blaming facilities for obeying it. After being lambasted in the press for the March 25 executive order that forced New York elder care facilities to accept patients infected with the highly contagious virus, Cuomo attempted to blame the nursing homes for not disobeying his orders during a Wednesday press conference.
Now he's blaming the nursing homes for obeying HIS ORDERS! pic.twitter.com/W2YBdwhvXi
-- Janice Dean (@JaniceDean) May 27, 2020" The obligation is on the nursing home to say, 'I can't take a Covid-positive person,' " the governor insisted. " If they said 'I can't take the person,' they can't take the person! So that's how it works ."
The coronavirus has cut a devastating swath through New York's nursing homes, killing more than 5,800 people in long-term care facilities since the pandemic began - nearly a fifth of the state's Covid-19 deaths so far, according to AP statistics compiled on Thursday. The policy ultimately sent over 4,500 recovering coronavirus patients to nursing homes, which Cuomo himself called " the optimum feeding ground for this virus ."
But the executive order itself leaves little room for disobedience, reading (in underlined text, no less), " No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the [Nursing Home] solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19 ." Elsewhere in the document, facilities are advised they " must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals " so long as they've been deemed medically stable - no excuses allowed. Facilities aren't even permitted to test incoming patients.
He specifically told them they couldn't do that @NYGovCuomo pic.twitter.com/x31PWu1v9R
-- commonsense (@commonsense258) May 27, 2020But that same order, titled " Advisory: Hospital Discharges and Admissions to Nursing Homes ," was apparently removed from the New York healthcare website early this month, according to Fox News, which discovered its absence on Tuesday. Unfortunately for Cuomo's revisionism, it's still available in the Wayback Machine . The governor issued a revised directive on May 10, barring hospitals from sending patients back to nursing homes unless they tested negative for the virus. However, his communications director denied the more recent order represented a " reversal " of the old one so much as " build[ing] on " it.
By Saturday, however, Cuomo was blaming the Trump administration for the ill-advised Covid-19 mandate, declaring New York was merely " following the president's agencies' guidance " and " follow[ing] what the Republican Administration said to do. " While the governor's office claimed he was referring to a March directive from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, that order merely required nursing homes to " admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including...from hospitals where a case of Covid-19 was present " and even advised setting aside a unit to quarantine patients returning from hospitals - a safety measure notably missing from Cuomo's executive order.
May 27, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,
Governments throughout the world and across the US justified extreme, draconian, undemocratic, and unconstitutional (in most US states) "lockdown" and stay-at-home orders on the grounds that the COVID-19 virus was exceptionally fatal.
In March, the World Health Organization (WHO) was claiming that the fatality rate was a very high 3.4 percent .
Yet as time went on, it became increasingly clear that such high estimates were essentially meaningless because researchers had no idea how many people were actually infected with the disease. Tests were largely being conducted on those with symptoms serious enough to end up in emergency rooms or doctor's offices.
By late April, many researchers were publishing new studies showing that the number of people with the disease was actually much higher than was previously thought. Thus, it became clear that the percentage of people with the disease who died from it suddenly became much smaller.
Now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has released new estimates suggesting that the real fatality rate is around 0.26 percent.
Specifically, the report concludes that the "symptomatic case fatality ratio" is 0.4 percent. But that's just symptomatic cases. In the same report, the CDC also claims that 35 percent of all cases are asymptomatic.
Or, as the Washington Post reported this week:
The agency offered a "current best estimate" of 0.4 percent. The agency also gave a best estimate that 35 percent of people infected never develop symptoms. Those numbers when put together would produce an infection fatality rate of 0.26, which is lower than many of the estimates produced by scientists and modelers to date."
Of course, not all scientists have been wrong on this. Back in March, Stanford scientist John Ioannidis was much, much closer to the CDC's estimate than the WHO. The Wall Street Journal noted in April :
In a March article for Stat News, Dr. Ioannidis argued that Covid-19 is far less deadly than modelers were assuming. He considered the experience of the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which was quarantined Feb. 4 in Japan. Nine of 700 infected passengers and crew died. Based on the demographics of the ship's population, Dr. Ioannidis estimated that the U.S. fatality rate could be as low as 0.025% to 0.625% and put the upper bound at 0.05% to 1% -- comparable to that of seasonal flu.
Not that this will settle the matter.
Proponents of destroying human rights and the rule of law in order to carry out lockdowns will continue to insist that "we didn't know" what the fatality rate was back in March. The lack of evidence, however, didn't stop proponents of lockdowns from implementing policies that destroyed the ability of families to earn a living, and which also created social conditions that caused child abuse and suicides to spike.
But for more sane people, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Those who have claimed that lockdowns are "the only option" had virtually no evidence at all to support their position. Indeed, such extreme over-the-top measures such as the general lockdowns required an extreme level of high-quality, nearly irrefutable evidence that lockdowns would work and were necessary in the face of a disease with an extremely high fatality rate. But the only "data" the prolockdown people could offer was speculation and hyperbolic predictions of bodies piling up in the streets.
But that became politically unimportant.
The people who wanted lockdowns had gained the obeisance of powerful people in government institutions and in the media . So actual data, science, or respect for human rights suddenly became meaningless. All that mattered was getting those lockdowns. So the lockdown crowd destroyed the lives of millions in the developed world -- and more than a hundred million in the developing world -- to satisfy the hunches of a tiny handful of politicians and technocrats.
May 24, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
According to the Telegraph , Michael Levitt correctly predicted the initial trajectory of the pandemic, but was ignored by now-disgraced Imperial College epidemiologist Niall Ferguson, whose warnings were embraced by the UK government as justification for the lockdown, despite the fact that the projections proved to be extremely flawed and dramatically overestimated the virus's potential for devastation. As early as march, Levitt warned that Ferguson's projections had over-estimated the potential death toll by "10 or 12 times".
Instead of helping the situation, Fergusons' projections created an unnecessary "panic virus" which spread among global political leaders, Prof Levitt told the Telegraph.
Prof Levitt, a British-American-Israeli who shared the Nobel prize for chemistry in 2013 for the "development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems", has said for two months that the planet will beat coronavirus faster than most other experts predict.
"I think lockdown saved no lives," said the scientist, who added that the Government should have encouraged Britons to wear masks and adhere to other forms of social distancing.
"I think it may have cost lives. It will have saved a few road accident lives - things like that - but social damage - domestic abuse, divorces, alcoholism - has been extreme. And then you have those who were not treated for other conditions."
Data from various studies has offered a mixed picture about the effectiveness of the lockdowns. The number of cases and deaths has undoubtedly plunged in the US and across Europe since strict lockdowns were almost universally enacted, but many wonder whether governments are being overly cautious, perhaps to a dangerous degree.
Though his models have been vindicated by the passage of time, Levitt said his initial concerns about Ferguson's models were largely ignored due to what he calls the "panic virus", despite the fact that there's recent precedent for epidemiological models over-estimating the impact of other outbreaks, including H1N1 and Ebola.
Having assessed the initial outbreak in China and from the infected Diamond Princess cruise ship, he predicted by March 14 that the UK would lose around 50,000 lives. Prof Ferguson's modelling that same week estimated up to 500,000 deaths without social distancing measures.
"I think that the real virus was the panic virus," Prof Levitt told the Telegraph. "For reasons that were not clear to me, I think the leaders panicked and the people panicked and I think there was a huge lack of discussion..
The 73-year-old has no background as an epidemiologist, but he assessed the outbreak in China and prepared a paper based on his own calculations. Most countries, he predicted, would suffer a Covid-19 death rate worth around an extra month in excess deaths over the calendar year.
"In Europe, I don't think that anything actually stopped the virus other than some kind of burnout," he added. " There's a huge number of people who are asymptomatic so I would seriously imagine that by the time lockdown was finally introduced in the UK the virus was already widely spread. They could have just stayed open like Sweden by that stage and nothing would have happened."
Professor Levitt has now analysed the data from 78 nations with more than 50 reported cases of coronavirus. His investigations proved the virus was never going to achieve the type of exponential growth that the researchers at Imperial were predicting at the same time.
At this point, Levitt believes the virus has reached a point of saturation across Europe and parts of the US making lockdowns much less effective. At this point, they're probably causing far more harm than benefit.
The virus "has saturated", he believes, across Europe. "I think the lockdown will cause much more damage than the deaths saved," he added. "When I saw the briefing (from Prof Ferguson) I was shocked. I had a run-in with him when I actually saw that Ferguson's death rate was a year's worth - doubling the normal death rate. I saw that and said immediately that's completely wrong. I think Ferguson over-estimated 10 or 12 times. We should have seen from China that a virus never grows exponentially. From the very first case you see, exponential growth actually slows down very dramatically.
"The problem with epidemiologists is that they feel their job is to frighten people into lockdown, social distancing. So you say 'there's going to be a million deaths' and when there are only 25,000 you say 'it's good you listened to my advice'. This happened with Ebola and bird flu. It's just part of the madness."
Prof Levitt says the global evidence shows the virus fades in dry heat and in much of the western world "there seems to be some kind of immunity". "The main worry I would have would be in China," he said when asked about the prospect of a second outbreak. "I am 73 and I feel very young," he added. "I don't care about the risk at all. As you get old the risk of dying from disease is so high that this is the time to buy a motorcycle, go skiing!"
Even as the NYT and WaPo search for every shred of evidence to support the view that the reopening in the US will lead to a second wave, they're finding that there's not nearly as much as they'd hoped - which is why projections are their new favorite tool.
May 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Richard Steven Hack , May 24 2020 23:54 utc | 46
And the government botching of this crisis continues...'How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?' The government's disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.
https://tinyurl.com/y92ea59fAnd overseas as well...
'Politicised nature' of lockdown debate delays Imperial report
https://tinyurl.com/y7csboomAnd of course, the effect of that...
Nearly half of US states haven't contained their coronavirus outbreaks, a new study finds
https://tinyurl.com/yc72pd8tAnd no, Sweden is not doing better...
Just 7.3% of Stockholm had Covid-19 antibodies by end of April, study shows
Official findings add to concerns about Sweden's laissez-faire strategy towards the pandemic
https://tinyurl.com/yahnmb3aFinally, a large scale study on HCQ - 86,000 patients, with 15,000 receiving HCQ...
Trump drug hydroxychloroquine raises death risk in Covid patients, study says
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52779309The color of coronavirus:
COVID-19 deaths by race and ethnicity in the U.S.
https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-raceBlacks are *twice* as likely to get it as whites and Latinos. American Indians are *five times* more likely to get it. They conclude the best indicator is poverty.
From The Lancet, a study of New York patients... Epidemiology, clinical course, and outcomes of critically ill adults with COVID-19 in New York City: a prospective cohort study https://tinyurl.com/yblmszsx
Between March 2 and April 1, 2020, 1150 adults were admitted to both hospitals with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19, of which 257 (22%) were critically ill.The median age of patients was 62 years (IQR 51–72), 171 (67%) were men. 212 (82%) patients had at least one chronic illness, the most common of which were hypertension (162 [63%]) and diabetes (92 [36%]).
119 (46%) patients had obesity.
As of April 28, 2020, 101 (39%) patients had died and 94 (37%) remained hospitalised.
203 (79%) patients received invasive mechanical ventilation for a median of 18 days (IQR 9–28), 170 (66%) of 257 patients received vasopressors and 79 (31%) received renal replacement therapy.
The median time to in-hospital deterioration was 3 days (IQR 1–6).
In the multivariable Cox model, older age (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR] 1·31 [1·09–1·57] per 10-year increase), chronic cardiac disease (aHR 1·76 [1·08–2·86]), chronic pulmonary disease (aHR 2·94 [1·48–5·84]), higher concentrations of interleukin-6 (aHR 1·11 [95%CI 1·02–1·20] per decile increase), and higher concentrations of D-dimer (aHR 1·10 [1·01–1·19] per decile increase) were independently associated with in-hospital mortality.
Note: 36% had diabetes; 46% were fat. Like I've said before, "diabetes" is a code word for "fat." And how many people in the US are fat and thus at risk? "According to CDC, the disease of obesity affects about 78 million Americans 1 and the ASMBS estimates about 24 million have severe or morbid obesity."
So much for "let's just isolate the elderly"...so we can attend our baseball games this summer and stuff ourselves with crap food...
May 23, 2020 | www.youtube.com
Millennial Millie investigates the deep conflicts of interest and connections Bill Gates has with the coronavirus and his proposed 'vaccine' to cure the pandemic.
May 22, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
"Grandma Killer" Cuomo Sent 4,300 Patients Back To Nursing Homes Despite Positive COVID-19 Tests by Tyler Durden Fri, 05/22/2020 - 17:25 Earlier this month, a reporter at one of NY Gov Andrew Cuomo's daily press briefings asked the governor about reports that the state issued guidance calling for hospitals to return thousands of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 to nursing homes or long-term care facilities where they lived.
Somehow, despite the horrifying notion that Cuomo deliberately sent patients back to nursing homes where they unleashed some of the deadliest outbreaks in the country, the governor readily owned up to the decision, and insisted public health officials believed this to be the best option to prevent the patients from just hanging around the hospital.
With the benefit of hindsight, we now see that the hospital bed shortages that the US had prepared for never came to pass. So, not only did this decision lead to thousands of deaths, it was also totally unnecessary.
Because as the Associated Press reported Friday morning, an investigation discovered that more than 4,000 nursing home patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 were returned to their care facilities due to this state order.
More than 4,300 recovering coronavirus patients were sent to New York's already vulnerable nursing homes under a controversial state directive that was ultimately scrapped amid criticisms it was accelerating the nation's deadliest outbreaks, according to a count by The Associated Press.
AP compiled its own tally to find out how many COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals to nursing homes under the March 25 directive after New York's Health Department declined to release its internal survey conducted two weeks ago. It says it is still verifying data that was incomplete.
The issue has become a huge problem for Cuomo, who has been labeled "the grandma killer" by critics. When confronted with the data by the AP, the state health department declined to comment. One individual quoted by the AP called it "the single dumbest decision" made during the response to the pandemic.
And guess what - this decision had nothing to do with President Trump. While Cuomo of course tried to deflected criticism to the Trump administration by claiming that the decision stemmed from federal guidance, the AP pointed out that "few states went as far as New York and neighboring New Jersey, which has the second-most care home deaths, in discharging hospitalized coronavirus patients to nursing homes. California followed suit but loosened its requirement following intense criticism."
Whatever the full number, nursing home administrators, residents' advocates and relatives say i t has added up to a big and indefensible problem for facilities that even Gov. Andrew Cuomo -- the main proponent of the policy -- called "the optimum feeding ground for this virus."
"It was the single dumbest decision anyone could make if they wanted to kill people," Daniel Arbeeny said of the directive, which prompted him to pull his 88-year-old father out of a Brooklyn nursing home where more than 50 people have died. His father later died of COVID-19 at home.
"This isn't rocket science," Arbeeny said. "We knew the most vulnerable - the elderly and compromised - are in nursing homes and rehab centers."
Told of the AP's tally, the Health Department said late Thursday it "can't comment on data we haven't had a chance to review, particularly while we're still validating our own comprehensive survey of nursing homes admission and re-admission data in the middle of responding to this global pandemic."
Cuomo didn't reverse the order until May 10. According to the directive, nursing homes could "refuse" to take in the patients if they weren't "equipped" to handle them. But unsurprisingly, no nursing homes did so - since this would be tantamount to admitting that the facilities weren't safe .
Cuomo, a Democrat, on May 10 reversed the directive, which had been intended to help free up hospital beds for the sickest patients as cases surged. But he continued to defend it this week , saying he didn't believe it contributed to the more than 5,800 nursing and adult care facility deaths in New York -- more than in any other state -- and that homes should have spoken up if it was a problem.
"Any nursing home could just say, 'I can't handle a COVID person in my facility,'" he said, although the March 25 order didn't specify how homes could refuse, saying that "no resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the (nursing home) solely based" on confirmed or suspected COVID-19.
Over a month later, on April 29, the Health Department clarified that homes should not take any new residents if they were unable to meet their needs, including a checklist of standards for coronavirus care and prevention.
And according to the AP, even the most well-equipped nursing homes in the state saw the trickle of COVID patients turn into a flood that quickly overwhelmed their ability to cope. Across the country, thousands of nursing home residents and staff have succumbed to the illness.
Gurwin Jewish, a 460-bed home on Long Island, seemed well-prepared for the coronavirus in early March, with movable walls to seal off hallways for the infected. But after the state order, a trickle of recovering COVID-19 patients from local hospitals turned into a flood of 58 people.
More walls were put up, but other residents nonetheless began falling sick and dying. In the end, 47 Gurwin residents died of confirmed or suspected COVID-19.
The state order "put staff and residents at great risk," CEO Stuart Almer said. "We can't draw a straight line from bringing in someone positive to someone catching the disease, but we're talking about elderly, fragile and vulnerable residents."
Nationally, over 35,500 people have died from coronavirus outbreaks at nursing homes and long-term care facilities, about a third of the overall death toll, according to the AP's running tally.
Bottom line: Irony of ironies, the most sanctimonious blue-state governors, who used every conceivable pretext to bash President Trump, also allowed the largest numbers of vulnerable patients to die because of what amounts to sheer bureaucratic idiocy.
The scandal has earned Cuomo a new nickname that has been heavily suppressed by the likes of Google, Facebook and Twitter: The "Grandma Killer".
May 22, 2020 | www.commondreams.org
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is facing new criticism after the Associated Press reported Friday that a state directive led to over 4,300 still recovering coronavirus patients being sent to New York's "already vulnerable nursing homes."
"It was a death sentence," tweeted Daniel Choi, a doctor at the Donald and Barbara Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell. He called the directive a "horrendous idea" and "definitely not something any doctor taking care of nursing home patients would have signed off on."
The state health department directive (pdf), issued March 25, barred nursing homes from requiring patients deemed "medically stable" from being tested for Covid-19 prior to admission. Cuomo, a Democrat, rescinded the order May 10, but not before thousands of infected patients likely entered nursing homes and contributed to the coronavirus's spread.
The estimated number tallied by the AP amounts to what would have been a "big and indefensible problem for facilities," the outlet reported.
From the AP :
"It was the single dumbest decision anyone could make if they wanted to kill people," Daniel Arbeeny said of the directive, which prompted him to pull his 88-year-old father out of a Brooklyn nursing home where more than 50 people have died. His father later died of Covid-19 at home.
"This isn't rocket science," Arbeeny said. "We knew the most vulnerable -- the elderly and compromised -- are in nursing homes and rehab centers."
CBS New York reported Friday that the conoravirus has taken the lives of almost 5% of nursing home residents in the state, and this week the Cuomo tried to deflect blame for the directive.
"Why did the state do that with Covid patients in nursing homes?" asked Cuomo. "It's because the state followed President Trump's CDC guidelines. So they should ask President Trump."
In an op-ed at the Guardian on Wednesday questioning the recent accolades heaped on the New York governor -- including suggestions that Cuomo run for president -- journalists Lyta Gold and Nathan Robinson of Current Affairs magazine write that "Cuomo should be one of the most loathed officials in America right now. "
Gold and Robinson argue that blame for New York's high death toll from the virus should sit largely with Cuomo.
"Federal failures played a role, of course, but this tragedy was absolutely due, in part, to decisions by the governor," they wrote, citing as examples his failure to take swift action, delays in imposing social distancing measures, Medicaid cuts both before and after the start of the pandemic, and his partnership with Silicon Valley billionaires to "reimagine education."
"This is the problem: for too long, Democrats have measured their politicians by 'whether they are better than Republicans,' wrote Gold and Robinson. "This sets the bar very low indeed, and means that Democrats end up settling for incompetent and amoral leaders who betray progressive values again and again."
May 22, 2020 | www.theguardian.com
Andrew Cuomo may be the most popular politician in the country. ... All of which is bizarre, because Cuomo should be one of the most loathed officials in America right now. ProPublica recently released a report outlining catastrophic missteps by Cuomo and the New York City mayor, Bill de Blasio, which probably resulted in many thousands of needless coronavirus cases. ProPublica offers some appalling numbers contrasting what happened in New York with the outbreak in California. By mid-May, New York City alone had almost 20,000 deaths, while in San Francisco there had been only 35, and New York state as a whole suffered 10 times as many deaths as California.
Federal failures played a role, of course, but this tragedy was absolutely due, in part, to decisions by the governor. Cuomo initially "reacted to De Blasio's idea for closing down New York City with derision", saying it "was dangerous" and "served only to scare people". He said the "seasonal flu was a graver worry". A spokesperson for Cuomo "refused to say if the governor had ever read the state's pandemic plan". Later, Cuomo would blame the press, including the New York Times for failing to say "Be careful, there's a virus in China that may be in the United States?" even though the Times wrote nearly 500 stories on the virus before the state acted. Experts told ProPublica that "had New York imposed its extreme social distancing measures a week or two earlier, the death toll might have been cut by half or more".
But delay was not the only screw-up. Elderly prisoners have died of coronavirus because New York has failed to act on their medical parole requests. As Business Insider documented:
"Testing was slow . Nonprofit social-service agencies that serve the most vulnerable couldn't get answers either . And medical experts like the former CDC director Tom Frieden said 'so many deaths could have been prevented' had New York issued its stay-at-home order just 'days earlier' than it did. On March 19, when New York's schools had already been closed, Cuomo said 'in many ways, the fear is more dangerous than the virus.'"
The governor has failed to take responsibility for the obvious failures, consistently blaming others and at one point even saying " governors don't do pandemics ". (Actually, some governors just don't read their state's pandemic plans.) But much of the press has ignored this, focusing instead on Cuomo's aesthetic presentation: his poise during press conferences, his dramatic statements about "taking responsibility" (even when he obviously hasn't), and his invisible good looks. ...
There's something disturbing about Cuomo being hailed as the hero of the pandemic when he should rightly be one of the villains. As Business Insider notes, he is now only able to attain praise for his actions because his earlier failures made those actions necessary. He's lauded for addressing a problem that he himself partly caused. Of course, part of this is because Donald Trump has bungled the coronavirus response even more badly , so that Cuomo – by not being a complete buffoon – looks like a capable statesman by contrast. But this is the problem: for too long, Democrats have measured their politicians by "whether they are better than Republicans". This sets the bar very low indeed, and means that Democrats end up settling for incompetent and amoral leaders who betray progressive values again and again.
May 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
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The Argument Against the Argument Against FacemasksRichard Steven Hack , May 19 2020 7:03 utc | 113
Resistance rooted in liberty clashes with the unalienable right of life
https://tinyurl.com/yctjydmxMasks help stop the spread of coronavirus – the science is simple and I'm one of 100 experts urging governors to require public mask-wearing
https://tinyurl.com/yah8orzoTHE STATE OF THE NATION: A 50-STATE COVID-19 SURVEYUSA, April 2020
https://tinyurl.com/yaf58h27Key takeaways:
More than 80% of Americans support closing non-essential businesses. Support for limiting restaurants, closing schools, canceling sporting and entertainment events, and group gatherings exceeds 90%. A total of 94% strongly or somewhat approve asking people to stay home and avoid gathering in groups; 92% support canceling major sports and entertainment events; 91% approve closing K-12 schools; 91% approve limiting restaurants to carry-out only; 83% approve closing businesses other than grocery stores and pharmacies. There are some partisan differences on these items -- Republicans are somewhat less supportive, but even among Republicans large majorities support all of these measures; and, as summarized below, support is largely consistent across every state.
A bipartisan consensus opposes a rapid "reopening" of the economy. Only 7% support immediate reopening of the economy, and the median respondent supports waiting four to six weeks. There is a bipartisan consensus on waiting (89% of Republicans as compared to 96% of Democrats opposed immediate re-opening), and Republicans support a somewhat faster re-opening of the economy than Democrats, where the median Republican supports waiting two to four weeks versus median Democrat six to eight weeks. As discussed below, even in those Republican-led states which are moving toward re-opening, few people support reopening immediatelyGenerally, Americans report adhering to social distancing, indicating that they had minimal social interactions with people outside of their households. That said, 56% reported encountering at least one person from outside of their home in the preceding 24 hours (and 7% reported encountering 10 or more persons); the survey did not contain information on the circumstances of those encounters (e.g., was it at grocery stores? were the individuals wearing masks?). Generally, there were not large differences with respect to age, gender, race, income, partisanship or education. An exception was that Asian Americans were substantially less likely to encounter other individuals, and more likely to avoid contact with other people. There were significant racial differences reported in wearing face masks outside of the home, with 51% of whites reporting following recommendations very closely, along with 62% of Hispanics, 64% of African Americans, and 68% of Asian Americans. There was also an age gradient in this regard, ranging from 50% face mask wearing for 18-24 year olds to 60% of those aged 65 or higher. There were also partisan differences: 51% of Republicans, compared to 64% for Democrats, reported wearing face masks outside the home.I find the racial differences interesting, especially since in my observation fewer blacks are wearing masks. However, since I was specifically looking at blacks (due to the disproportionate number of blacks dying) in my walks, I may have under counted the number of whites not wearing masks. Also I suspect it varies between cities, states and more suburban or rural areas.
In any event, not enough people are wearing masks to re-open the economy - and we damn sure don't have enough testing, tracing and isolating capability and probably won't until September, according to one report I read.
A number of other interesting results. Check it out.
Another useful article on masks...which is likely to be the next hot-button issue for the idiots and trolls...The Science and Politics of Masks in the Covid-19 Pandemic
https://tinyurl.com/y7bxakhv
One of the key things to understand in thinking about the value of masks is the concept of the viral dose. While it seem logical that a single viral particle hitting a person's mouth, nose or eye could cause an infection, strong laboratory and empirical evidence says that this is not the case -- it takes a big dose of virus to launch a case of Covid. This happy fact means that masks for everyday use don't need to block 100% of pathogens in order to prevent the disease from spreading. (Even the medical grade N95 masks don't block every viral particle, but they block enough to protect the user, even when caring for patients with known Covid-19.)
A simulation by De Kai and colleagues makes the case that masks are most effective if at least 80% of people are using them. The figure below maps the rate of transmission with the expected deaths from Covid-19 in a nation the size of the UK. According to the simulation, social distancing alone without masking would lead to 1.16 million deaths by May 31st. However, with 50% of the population masking, the projected death figure drops to 240,000. With 80% masking, there are 60,000 deaths. If Professor De Kai's mind-blowing video (below) doesn't convince you of the virtue of mask wearing, I just don't know what to tell you.Video referenced above:
Visual simulations show why we all need to wear masks now #UniversalMasking #masks4all #COVID19
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https://tinyurl.com/yc89vf9c
May 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
At a moment in time when narrative-following "scientists" are lauded like unquestionably omniscient supreme beings enabling dumb-as-a-rock-partisan-politicians to play omnipotent overlords without fear of blowback, the world needs more people like William Haseltine.The last two weeks have seen markets and politicians jump exuberantly at the hope of every press release from a biotech firm that proclaims one of their pet rabbits didn't die when they fed it their latest DNA-reshaping test material (oh that is except if anyone dares say anything positive about hydroxychloroquine but that is a topic for another discussion) as the fate of global citizenry rests on a vaccine (and definitely not herd immunity, don't even mention it).
Barstool Sports' Dave Portnoy said it right - when did we shift from "flatten the curve, flatten the curve, flatten the curve" to "we have to fund a cure or everyone's going to die."
And so, that is where we find ourselves... Every talking head proclaiming the same malarkey - we will re-open carefully, with PPE, and social distancing, and whetever else is mandated from on-high "until we find a vaccine in 12-18 months" at which point the world will be made whole again and Kumbaya...
All of which brings us back to the man of the day in our humble opinion.
Former Harvard Medical School professor and founder of the university's cancer and HIV/AIDS research departments, William Haseltine dared to speak out today about the high level of bullshit and damage that is being done to "trust" in "scientists" and even dared to break the one holy writ that shall go un-mentioned, throwing some shade a Dr.Fauci.
Reflecting on Moderna's press release this week (which was immediately followed by massive equity raises across numerous biotech firms and upgrades from the underwriters, surprise), Haseltine said:
"If a CFO had tried to get away with such an opaque and data-less statement it would have bee treated with derision and possibly an investigation."
The CNBC anchor desperately tried to guilt him into the official narrative of clinging to any hope as long as it lifts stocks - no matter its utter bullshittiness - but Haseltine destroyed her naive party line:
"we all know its an emergency, and in an emergency it's even more important to be clear on what you know and what you do not know."
Moderna did not follow the process:
"you don't know what happened, we don't know what happened, there is no data."
But, but, but... the CNBC anchorette blubbered, "are you questioning Dr. Fauci who also said that this was encouraging news?"
"Whether [Fauci] shaded what should should have been done, I think is an important question. He's obviously under enormous pressure for positive results but it was not the right thing to do if you can't see the data."
The full interview below is a must-watch by all who care about their freedom being controlled by a narrative directed by fearmongering elites in the name of "science" when the "science" is a) being ignored, b) being bastardized to meet a political need, c) being treated as if handed down on high from the man himself, or d) being manipulated explicitly.
https://player.cnbc.com/p/gZWlPC/cnbc_global?playertype=synd&byGuid=7000137277&size=530_298
Why this former Harvard Med School prof says Moderna's vaccine trial 'publication by press release' from CNBC .
Haseltine's interview is perfect lead into his opinion piece in todays' Washington Post :
Faith in medicine and science is based on trust. But today, in the rush to share scientific progress in combating covid-19, that trust is being undermined.
Private companies, governments and research institutes are holding news conferences to report potential breakthroughs that cannot be verified. The results are always favorable, but the full data on which the announcements are based are not immediately available for critical review. This is "publication by press release," and it's damaging trust in the fundamental methods of science and medicine at a time when we need it most.
The most recent example is Moderna's claim Monday of favorable results in its vaccine trial, which it announced without revealing any of the underlying data. The announcement added billions of dollars to the value of the company, with its shares jumping almost 20 percent. Many analysts believe it contributed to a 900-point gain in the Dow Jones industrial average.
The Moderna announcement described a safety trial of its vaccine based on eight healthy participants. The claim was that in all eight people, the vaccine raised the levels of neutralizing antibodies equivalent to those found in convalescent serum of those who recovered from covid-19. What to make of that claim? Hard to say, because we have no sense of what those levels were. This is the equivalent of a chief executive of a public company announcing a favorable earnings report without supplying supporting financial data, which the Securities and Exchange Commission would never allow.
There is a legitimate question regarding what Moderna's unsupported assertion means. The scientific and medical literature reports that some people who have recovered have little to no detectable neutralizing antibodies . There is even existing scientific literature that suggests it is possible neutralizing antibodies may not protect animals or humans from infection or reinfection by coronaviruses.
Such "publication by press release" seems to be a standard practice lately.
The National Institutes of Health announced last month that the drug remdesivir offered a clear benefit to covid-19 patients with moderate disease, shortening the length of their hospital stay by several days. But did it really? Twenty days after the announcement, the supporting data has still not been published. Without the data, no doctor treating a patient can be sure they are doing the right thing.
Another paper , published the same day, found that remdesivir had no measurable effect on patient survival or the amount of virus detectable in nasopharynx and lung secretions. What then should a practicing physician do? Follow the unsupported advice of a news announcement or a medical report published in a leading scientific journal? This is not an idle question: The NIH announcement triggered a global stampede for limited supplies of the drug.
The case is more nuanced for the vaccine developed by the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, though the mileposts remain the same: It started with a public pronouncement of favorable results from an early study, this time in monkeys, well before any data was publicly released. An NIH scientist working on a trial of the Oxford vaccine gave an interview to the New York Times , claiming the drug was a success.
But the data, released as a prepublication version more than two weeks after the story ran, didn't quite live up to the early claim. All of the vaccinated monkeys became infected when introduced to the virus. Though there was some reduction in the amount of viral RNA detected in the lungs, there was no reduction in the nasal secretions in the vaccinated monkeys. So the positive result reported by the Oxford group turned out not to be protection from infection at all, something most would agree is what a successful vaccine would do. Instead, it lowered only the amount of virus recoverable from the vaccinated monkey's lung.
To the Jenner Institute's credit, it does warn visitors to its website that there have been many false reports about the progress of its vaccine trial. Still, having a scientist working on the trial paint preliminary results in such a positive manner without having yet released the full data is cause for concern.
We all understand the need to share scientific and medical data as rapidly as possible in this time of crisis. But a media announcement alone is not enough. There are ways to share the data quickly and transparently: posting manuscripts before review or acceptance on publicly available websites or working with journals to allow an early view. Publishing in this manner allows doctors and scientists to reach their own conclusion, based on the evidence available.
The media also bears responsibility. Asking experts to opine on unsubstantiated claims is not useful. Medicine and science are not matters of majority opinion; they are matters of fact supported by transparent data. This is the backbone of scientific progress and our only hope to end this pandemic. We can't give up on our standards now.
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So, by all means, trust in "science" but choose your "scientist" well...
Pure Evil, 13 minutes ago
hanekhw, 13 minutes agoIt seems the more this hoax is exposed. The more Gates/Fauci appear as money grubbing opportunist vaccine pushers the more the MSM and the government double down on the whole false narrative.
Enraged, 15 minutes agoLook around at the moral climate and ask yourself if lying about everything for profit was not required for success how can we stop it without pain, suffering and violence? There really IS no free lunch and there never has been nor ever will be. We pay one way or another but we ALL pay.
Fake media, fake Big Pharma, fake banksters, fake government, fake breasts, fake stock "market", fake medical agencies, fake wars.
Assume they are 100% wrong unless there is substantial evidence they are correct, which will be on very rare occasions.
May 20, 2020 | www.armstrongeconomics.com
Stochastic" is simply defined as "randomly determined; having a random probability distribution or pattern that may be analyzed statistically but may not be predicted precisely." In other words, they begin with a presumption, and therein lies the FIRST error. Ferguson's assumption was wrong, to begin with. Then this mode is so old, they recommend that it be run only on a single CORE processor as if we were dealing with an old IBM XT.
Effectively, you start the program with what is called a "seed" number which is then used to produce a random number. Most children's games begin this way. In fact, this is a version of what you would be similar to the game SimCity where you create a city starting from scratch and it simulates what might happen based upon the beginning presumption. There are numerous bugs in the code and the documentation suggests to run it several times and take the average. This is just unthinkable! A program should produce the same result with the same data from which it begins. Therefore, there is no possible way this model would ever produce the same results. In reality, this model produces completely different results even when beginning with the very same starting seeds and parameters because of the attempt to also make the seed random. This is not even as sophisticated as SimCity, which is really questionable. This is where the Imperial College claims that the errors will vanish if you run it on an old system in the single-threaded mode as if you were using a 1980s XT.
In programming, you run what is known as a regression-test, which is re-running a functional and non-functional test to ensure that previously developed and tested software still performs after a change. In market terminology, its called back-testing. In the most unprofessional manner imaginable, the Imperial College code does not even have a regression-test structure. They apparently attempted to but the extent of the random behavior caused by bugs in the code to prevent that check? On April 4th, 2020, Imperial College noted:
" However, we haven't had the time to work out a scalable and maintainable way of running the regression test in a way that allows a small amount of variation, but doesn't let the figures drift over time."
This Ferguson Model is such a joke it is either an outright fraud, or it is the most inept piece of programming I may have ever seen in my life. There is no valid test to warrant any funding of Imperial College for providing ANY forecast based upon this model. This is the most UNPROFESSIONAL operation perhaps in computer science. The entire team should be disbanded and an independent team put in place to review the world of Neil Ferguson and he should NOT be allowed to oversee any review of this model.
The only REASONABLE conclusion I can reach is that this has been deliberately used to justify bogus forecasts intent for political activism, or I must accept that these academics are totally incapable of even creating a theoretical model no less coding it as a programmer. There seems to have been no independent review of Ferguson's work which is unimaginable!
A 15,000 line program is nothing. I will be glad to write a model like this in two weeks and will only charge $1 million instead of $79 million. If you really want one to work globally, no problem. It will take a bit more time and the price will be at a discount – only $50 million on sale – refunds not accepted as is the deal with Imperial College.
May 19, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
aqualech , May 19 2020 1:29 utc | 98
So just one more narrative about how the virus was so horrific, used to justify the lockdowns, is shown to be utter bullshit. Remember "the immunity doesn't last, you can get reinfected, the next time it's lethal"?So, contrary to that, lots of people have immunity before they even get exposed to it. From the common cold. So the idea that the corona immunity is a short term and unreliable thing was just a bunch of uninformed blather, or worse, targeted and manipulative narrative.
Fearmongering bullshit that is 95% wrong needs to get called out constantly.
Even in New York there was not the "catastrophic death count" that I see people writing about as if it were true.
Hey! Let's talk about duct tape and plastic sheeting! Remember that idiotic bullshit scare narrative?
May 19, 2020 | www.unz.com
"We have met the moment and we have prevailed," said President Donald Trump Monday, as he supported the opening of the U.S. economy before the shutdown plunges us into a deep and lasting depression.
Tuesday, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation's leading expert on infectious diseases, made clear to a Senate committee his contradictory views.
"If states reopen their economies too soon, there is a real risk that you may trigger an outbreak that you may not be able to control," said Fauci. "My concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks of the disease (and) the inevitable return of infections."
Fauci is talking of the real possibility of a second and even more severe wave of the pandemic this summer and fall, if we open too soon.
There is evidence to justify the fears of Fauci and Dr. Robert Redfield of the Centers for Disease Control, who told the same Senate committee, "We are not out of the woods yet."
Yet, there is a case to be made for the risks that Trump and red state governors are taking in opening up sooner.
The Washington Post daily graph of new deaths nationally has been showing a curve sloping downward for a month from April's more than 2,000 a day. On no day yet this week did the U.S. record 2,000 dead from the virus. On some days, there were fewer than 1,000.
The graph for new coronavirus cases, which was showing more than 30,000 a day in April, is now closer to 25,000.
Also, hospitalizations and ICU occupancies are not as high as they were. Hospitals put up in Central Park and the Javits Center seem not to have been needed. There was and is no shortage of ventilators. The Navy hospital ships Comfort and Mercy are returning to their home ports.
Also, not all states are suffering equally, nor are all communities in the hardest-hit states. There have been three times as many COVID-19 cases in New Jersey as in Texas, though New Jersey is a fraction of the size and has a fraction of the population of Texas.
There are twice as many cases in Massachusetts as in Florida, the nation's third-most populous state with one of its highest percentages of retirees and elderly. There have been five times as many cases in New York as in California.
It is the nursing homes filled with the elderly and ill that have proven to be the real killing fields of this virus. According to The New York Times, one-third of all deaths from COVID-19 have come among residents and staff of nursing homes. Beyond these are the meatpacking plants and the prisons where social distancing is almost nonexistent.
Moreover, while Fauci and Redfield are specialists in epidemics, Trump's portfolio goes far beyond that.
He is chief of state, head of government and commander in chief, responsible for the security and defense of the nation. His portfolio is broader and deeper than those of Fauci and Redfield.
ORDER IT NOWIn the first hours of the Normandy invasion, General Eisenhower must have been rightly alarmed about the high U.S. casualties on Omaha Beach. But he also had to concern himself with the failure to capture the Port of Caen to bring ashore the armor to stop any German counterattack that might turn D-Day into another Anzio.
Ike could not worry about casualties alone.
According to The Washington Post, economists already project that 100,000 small businesses have shuttered, never to reopen.
"(D)eeper and longer recessions can leave behind lasting damage to the productive capacity of the economy," warned Federal Reserve Board Chair Jerome Powell on Wednesday. "Avoidable household and business insolvencies can weigh on growth for years to come."
Ultimately, Fauci is not "The Decider" here. Trump is.
It is he who is accountable to the nation for weighing the losses, both human and material, due to his decisions.
Fauci may be the best at what he does, but he is still only an adviser. As John F. Kennedy said after the Bay of Pigs, it is the president who ultimately bears responsibility for what he does and fails to do, while "the advisers may move on to new advice."
Believing he can do no more than his White House is now doing to contain the incidence of cases, hospitalizations and deaths, Trump has decided his primary job is to prevent the nation from a catastrophic economic collapse from which it might take years to recover.
The country is slowly moving in Trump's direction, slowly opening. And he will be responsible for whether the policy succeeds or opens the floodgates to a second and worse wave, should it come.
As Abraham Lincoln put his situation: "I mean to keep going. If the end brings me out all right, then what is said against me won't matter. If I'm wrong, ten angels swearing I was right won't make a difference."
Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of "Nixon's White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever."
Copyright 2020 Creators.com.
Bill H , says: Show Comment May 15, 2020 at 5:41 am GMT
Fauci says that, "My concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks of the disease "BobM11 , says: Show Comment May 15, 2020 at 7:52 am GMTThe problem with his statement is the first two words. A science advisor is supposed to provide advice based knowledge and science. It is not part of his job description to voice his feelings.
In this case, it doesn't matter who is "right" only one of them is POTUS! I get it that Trumps perch on his seat is tenuous and exactly how much real control he has over the government he supposedly heads is open to speculation, but at the end of the day Trump is POTUS and this is no time to be thinking of political futures he must be focused on the future of America.We need not only an end to the lockdowns, but an end to the media campaign to demoralize the country by hyping the non-event known as corona virus. It is all hype. when you get past the spin and media blitz, there is nothing about this virus that would justify any kind of response beyond your doctor testing you for covid along with the flu when you go to the doctor with flu symptoms. That's it.
This is simply not the life altering virus that is being hyped. The enemy here is NOT the virus, it is the (((elites))) who are trying to destroy us. It is time people it is time.
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Candy Rinard , 6 days agoGood, he's a crooked snake. And the WHO is corrupt.
Ender Gate , 1 week agoDon't trust Fauci at all. Not one thing he says.
Eagle Arrow , 1 week agoFauci sits on the leadership board of the Gates Foundation. That's a conflict of interest...
Mary Bevacqua , 1 week agoFauci & Gates shouldn't be able to patent vaccines from research funded by American tax payers.
dolphinsc1 , 1 week agoLook at Fauci's connection and history. Follow the money! Corruption is a normal way of life. People's lives are NOT a concern.
Linda Huckabee , 1 week agoGen. Flynn is the perfect example of how far these gov't agencies will go to protect a lie and those frauds involved in the cover up/hoax. Trump was there target, the pathetic part of all this is just how many republicans knew about the fraud before Trump did and did nothing to protect him or Americans.
Carie Saad , 1 week agoTheir pushing vaccines to make money. When other treatments would be better like interferon therapy.
ozrocksinger , 1 week ago (edited)The CARES ACT was introduced in January of 2019, almost a year before CoronaVirus started. Hmmmmm......
Jillayne Holter , 6 days agoFile on Gates too for practicing Medicine without a license!
jomeza72 , 6 days ago (edited)Fauci, Clinton's, Gates, WHO, Big Pharma, and China all together to keeping things locked-down until they can make a vaccin
Nathan McClellan , 4 days ago3.7 million Dollars To Wuhan Laboratories , Come On !!!
Spyderhead , 4 days ago (edited)Fauci wasn't mislead by the WHO, he was given cover for his misdeeds.
"Doctor" Fauci is just another Deep State hack. A puppet. 😎
May 17, 2020 | www.usatoday.com
Fauci, Gates and coronavirus treatments
Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is not cited anywhere as an inventor or patent owner of the drug and has not authored any research studying remdesivir.
While Fauci has also said that early trials of remdesivir on coronavirus patients are a positive sign, he has also cautioned against prematurely celebrating.
"I was very serious when I said this was not the total answer by any means, but it's a very important first step," Fauci said on April 30 about the NIH study on remdesivir.
As remdesivir is wholly owned by Gilead Sciences, Fauci is not legally entitled to any profits from remdesivir.
Fauci was the director of NIAID during the 2013-14 Ebola outbreak and spearheaded the department's research and response to the virus. NIAID supported research into a range of potential Ebola treatments, including remdesivir, as recently as December. That said, Fauci did not directly conduct this research; neither he nor the NIH stand to profit from its results.
The National Institutes of Health confirmed that Fauci has not authored any studies on remdesivir and does not own stock in any biomedical or pharmaceutical companies.
Owning financial assets in pharmaceutical firms like Gilead would also be required to be publicly disclosed per the agency's ethics policy .
The NIH now recommends remdesivir be used "in hospitalized patients with severe disease," meaning any case where a the patient needs the use of a ventilator.
May 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Matthew Ehret via The Strategic Culture Foundation,Amidst the storm of controversy raised by the lab-origin theory of COVID-19 extolled by such figures as Nobel prize winning virologist Luc Montagnier, bioweapons expert Francis Boyle, Sri Lankan Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith and the head of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, an elaborate project was undertaken under the nominal helm of NATURE Magazine in order to refute the claim once and for all under the report 'The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2' .
This project was led by a team of evolutionary virologists using a line of reasoning that "random mutation can account for anything" and was parroted loudly and repeatedly by Fauci, WHO officials and Bill Gates in order to shut down all uncomfortable discussion of the possible laboratory origins of COVID-19 while also pushing for a global vaccine campaign. On April 18, Dr. Fauci (whose close ties with Bill Gates, and Big Pharma have much to do with his control of hundreds of billions of dollars of research money), stated :
"There was a study recently that we can make available to you, where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences there and the sequences in bats as they evolve. And the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human."
I think at this moment, rife as it is with speculative arguments, confusion and under-defined data, it is useful to remove oneself from the present and look for higher reference points from which we can re-evaluate events now unfolding on the world stage.
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May 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
As the FDA shuts down a Bill Gates-funded COVID-testing program , an Italian politician has demanded the arrest of Bill Gates in the Italian parliament.
Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome denounced Bill Gates as a "vaccine criminal" and urged the Italian President to hand him over to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.
She also exposed Bill Gates' agenda in India and Africa, along with the plans to chip the human race through the digital identification program ID2020.
As reported by GreatGameIndia earlier, in 2015 it were the Italians who exposed secret Chinese biological experiments with Coronavirus . The video, which was broadcast in November, 2015, showed how Chinese scientists were doing biological experiments on a SARS connected virus believed to be Coronavirus, derived from bats and mice, asking whether it was worth the risk in order to be able to modify the virus for compatibility with human organisms.
In an extraordinary seven-minute speech met with wide applause, Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome said that Italy had been subjected to a "Holy Inquisition of false science."
She roundly criticized the unnecessary lockdown imposed on her fellow Italians in the service of a globalist agenda. She urged fellow political leaders to desist in any plans to compel citizens to surrender themselves to compulsory COVID-19 vaccination at the hands of the corrupt elite – whom she identified as the Deep State .
Below is the transcription of the full speech delivered to the Italian Parliament by Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome.
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Sara Cunial
The Member of Parliament for Rome
Speech delivered to the Italian Parliament
May 2020
https://www.youtube.com/embed/QnsYcsCjLWI
[Emphasis ours]
Hobbes said that absolute power does not come from an imposition from above but by the choice of individuals who feel more protected renouncing to their own freedom and granting it to a third party.
With this, you are going on anesthetizing the minds with corrupted Mass Media with Amuchina (a brand of disinfectant promoted by Mass Media) and NLP, with words like "regime", "to allow" and "to permit", to the point of allowing you to regulate our emotional ties and feelings and certify our affects.
So, in this way, Phase 2 is nothing else than the persecution/continuation of Phase 1 – you just changed the name, as you did with the European Stability Mechanism (ESM). We have understood people, for sure, don't die for the virus alone. So people will be allowed to die and suffer, thanks to you and your laws, for misery and poverty. And, as in the "best" regimes, the blame will be dropped only on citizens. You take away our freedom and say that we looked for it. Divide et Impera (Divide and Rule).
It is our children who will lose more, who are 'raped souls', with the help of the so-called "guarantor of their rights" and of CISMAI (Italian Coordination of Services against Child Abuse). In this way, the right to school will be granted only with a bracelet to get them used to probation, to get them used to slavery – involuntary treatment and to virtual lager. All this in exchange for a push-scooter and a tablet. All to satisfy the appetites of a financial capitalism whose driving force is the conflict of interest, conflict well represented by the WHO, whose main financier is the well-known "philanthropist and savior of the world" Bill Gates.
We all know it, now. Bill Gates, already in 2018, predicted a pandemic, simulated in October 2019 at the "Event 201", together with Davos (Switzerland). For decades, Gates has been working on Depopulation policy and dictatorial control plans on global politics, aiming to obtain the primacy on agriculture, technology and energy.
Gates said, I quote exactly from his speech:
"If we do a good job on vaccines, health and reproduction, we can reduce the world population by 10-15%. Only a genocide can save the world".
With his vaccines, Gates managed to sterilize millions of women in Africa. Gates caused a polio epidemic that paralyzed 500,000 children in India and still today with DTP, Gates causes more deaths than the disease itself. And he does the same with GMOs designed by Monsanto and "generously donated" to needy populations. All this while he is already thinking about distributing the quantum tattoo for vaccination recognition and mRNA vaccines as tools for reprogramming our immune system. In addition, Gates also does business with several multinationals that own 5G facilities in the USA.
On this table there is the entire Deep State in Italian sauce : Sanofi, together with GlaxoSmithKline are friends of the Ranieri Guerra, Ricciardi, and of the well-known virologist that we pay 2000 Euro every 10 minutes for the presentations on Rai (Italian state TV. She's probably talking about Burioni). Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline sign agreements with medical societies to indoctrinate future doctors, making fun of their autonomy of judgment and their oath.
Hi-Tech multinationals, like the Roman Engineering which is friend of the noble Mantoan, or Bending Spoons, of Pisano, which are there for control and manage our personal health datas in agreement with the European Agenda ID2020 of electronic identification, which aims to use mass vaccination to obtain a digital platform of digital ID. This is a continuation of the transfer of data started by Renzi to IBM. Renzi, in 2016, gave a plus 30% to Gates Global Fund.
On the Deep State table there are the people of Aspen, like the Saxon Colao, who with his 4-pages reports, paid 800 Euros/hour, with no scientific review, dictates its politics as a Bilderberg general as he is, staying away from the battlefield. The list is long. Very long. In the list there is also Mediatronic, by Arcuri and many more.
The Italian contribution to the International Alliance Against Coronavirus will be of 140 million Euros, of which 120 million Euros will be given to GAVI Alliance, the non-profit by Gates Foundation. They are just a part of the 7.4 billion Euro fund by the EU to find a vaccine against Coronavirus – vaccines which will be used as I said before.
No money, of course for serotherapy, which has the collateral effect of being super cheap. No money for prevention, a real prevention, which includes our lifestyles, our food and our relationship with the environment.
The real goal of all of this is total control. Absolute domination of human beings, transformed into guinea pigs and slaves, violating sovereignty and free will. All this thanks to tricks/hoax disguised as political compromises. While you rip up the Nuremberg code with involuntary treatment, fines and deportation, facial recognition and intimidation, endorsed by dogmatic scientism – protected by our "Multi-President" of the Republic who is real cultural epidemic of this country.
We, with the people, will multiply the fires of resistance in a way that you won't be able to repress all of us.
I ask you, President, to be the spokesperson and give an advice to our President Conte: Dear Mr. President Conte, next time you receive a phone call from the philanthropist Bill Gates forward it directly to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. If you won't do this, tell us how we should define you, the "friend lawyer" who takes orders from a criminal.
Thank you.
May 05, 2020 | www.informationclearinghouse.info
By teleSUR" Information Clearing House " - Trump insists that his administration has evidence that the virus was created in Wuhan city. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director Anthony Fauci Monday reiterated that there is no scientific evidence to claim that the SARS-CoV coronavirus was created in a laboratory. His statement contradicts again the theory on the origin of COVID-19 defended by the U.S. President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
"If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated," Fauci said in an interview with National Geographic
"Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species," the U.S. government's leading epidemiologist added.
His statements are in line with those set forth by the World Health Organization (WHO), a United Nations agency that ratified on Monday that the coronavirus is of animal origin. "The coronavirus circulates ancestrally between bats.
"That is something we know based on this virus's genetic sequence. What we need to understand is which animal... was infected by bats and transmitted it to humans," the WHO Emerging Diseases Department Director Maria Van Kerkhove said.
Demand Trump's incompetent, unqualified son-in-law be removed from the coronavirus response team! #care2 https://t.co/TN8jpMIw2p
-- Frank (@watercutter11) May 5, 2020Nevertheless, Trump insists that the U.S. government has evidence that the virus was created in a laboratory in Wuhan (China), something that the Intelligence Directorate also rejected.
Are You Tired Of The Lies And Non-Stop Propaganda?
On Tuesday morning, the U.S. president also reacted angrily to a video titled "Mourning In America" produced by The Lincoln Project (LP), a conservative group opposed to Trump's reelection which blames him for mishandling the COVID-19 pandemic.
"There's mourning in America - and under the leadership of Donald Trump, our country is weaker, sicker, and poorer," the LP video points out and adds that the United States is on the brink of a new Great Depression.
In response to the above, Trump released his discomfort by calling the Lincoln Project members "losers."
May 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Likklemore , May 16 2020 18:11 utc | 130
the Controversy and confusion on wearing masks:Should everyone be wearing face masks? It's complicated.
Why don't masks protect the wearer?
Paul Glasziou, Professor of Medicine, Bond University and Chris Del Mar, Professor of Public Health, Bond University, AU
also endorsed by epidemiologists in UK, CAD.
[.] There are several possible reasons why masks don't offer significant protection. First, masks may not do much without eye protection. We know from animal and laboratory experiments that influenza or other coronaviruses can enter the eyes and travel to the nose and into the respiratory system.While standard and special masks provide incomplete protection, special masks combined with goggles appear to provide complete protection in laboratory experiments. However, there are no studies in real-world situations measuring the results of combined mask and eyewear.
The apparent minimal impact of wearing masks might also be because people didn't use them properly. For example, one study found less than half of the participants wore them "most of the time". People may also wear masks inappropriately, or touch a contaminated part of the mask when removing it and transfer the virus to their hand, then their eyes and thus to the nose.
Masks may also provide a false sense of security, meaning wearers might do riskier things such as going into crowded spaces and places.[.]
Got goggles or a Visor? Eye protection is essential.
May 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
likbez , May 16, 2020 at 19:42
@vk | May 16 2020 15:52 utc | 108
> How about we follow WHO's rule zero: test, test and test?
Do you understand the cost of each test? Some data suggest that it is between $50 and $100. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-15/coronavirus-tests-from-labcorp-quest-will-cost-50-to-100
Do you understand that the current polymerase tests have 20-30% of false positives?
So if everybody in the USA is tested around 60-80 million people in the USA would be deemed infected. I suspect that a very large percentage of "asymptomatics" are in reality false positives.
We need to distinguish between the necessary measures and fearmongering. I suspect that in the case of polymerase test the mantra "test, test, test" is close to the latter. This is s rather expensive test and money probably can be better spend distributing masks to the population. That would instantly give a larger effect. The simple measure that in the USA was not done. Just for that Fauci should be fired and probably tried, IMHO.
The same is probably true with the distribution of oxymeters too: people with lows reading need oxygen. As simple as that. That probably will cut hospitalizations in half.
My impression is that temperature and oxymeter testing might be a proxy for polymerase testing and much cheaper: if oxygen saturation is less then 90% the person need to be isolated/treated with oxygen
Why the USA did not implemented entry/exist temperature checks (even at airports) I do not understand. The richest nation in the world has the government which is probably the most inept and disfunctional
It looks like this is mainly the disease of megacities and industries with closely packed people (ships, meatpacking plants, Amazon warepuses) . And a large part of large cities infrastructure such as subways and air-conditioned building, hotels and shops are ideal environment for spreading of the virus.
Even reasonable prophylactic measures do not work that well in large cities. Slums and homeless are and will be hotspots.
Even at work enforcing prophylactic measures is non trivial. You need to change mask each 2 hours when you are working inside. How many people will do that ?
I think there is not way out other then clench your teeth and go forward adapting the behavior as new information about the virus emerge.
For example individual supply of air in planes, trains and buses (which existed in old planes and some buses ) might be an important psychological (and with better filters medical) measure required.
Also Cruise ships "experiments" suggest that only around 20% of population is susceptible to the virus. Even among Wuhan medics who started working with coronavirus patients without wearing protective equipment only around half got the disease. The simplistic assumption that 100% of people is susceptible is just a myth propagated by fearmongers for fun and profit.
Another interesting feature of this virus is that it simply revealed how unhealthy the USA population generally is. For example, the epidemic of obesity now is tightly intermixed with the epidemic of COVID-19. Within the limits of the neoliberal social system very little can be done about it: for profit medicine makes is more fragile and create multiple avenue of abusing people.
May 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) will be checking passengers' temperatures at select airports next week.People familiar with the matter told The Wall Street Journal that additional details would be unveiled in the near term. The program is expected to roll out at 12 airports next week and will cost $20 million to implement. Thermal check fees will be waived for travelers and likely expensed to the federal government.
May 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
1. 'BE AFRAID '
The first message is that covid19 is terrifying, unique, an existential threat to the human race.
This message is never sourced to much fact, because the facts about the virus don't really support it. If it cites anything solid it's the appallingly sloppy and discredited Imperial computer model, or some generic research into the pathology of severe infections or rare viral syndromes, which it tries to spin as being unique to covid19, even though it is not. But mostly it doesn't cite anything at all. Or really claim anything at all.
It just tells people to be afraid. Very afraid. Of death, of uncertainty, of the 'virus', of other people, of 'fake news'.
The fear being encouraged is not rooted in facts, and is therefore impervious to them.
2. 'THERE IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF 'The second message is that covid19 is actually pretty harmless and no big deal.
This message is rooted in a great deal of fact, because, as we have been pointing out since day one, pretty much all the data coming out about this virus supports exactly this conclusion.
No official body has ever denied this, and most of them readily admit it. Regularly and unambiguously. Here and here and here and here .
Chris Whitty above is only one of many and this is not even his first go (see here ) at explaining clearly that covid19 is only dangerous to a very very small minority of people, and that most who get it will be just fine.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/adj8MCsZKlg
Here's a slide from his talk on April 30th:
At an individual level the chances of dying of coronavirus are low.
• Over the whole epidemic, even if there is no vaccine, a high proportion
will not get it.• Of those who do, a significant proportion (exact number not yet clear)
have no symptoms.• Of the symptomatic cases, the great majority (around 80%) a mild-
moderate disease.• A minority have to go to hospital, most need only oxygen. The great
majority of these survive.• A minority of those need ventilation.
• A minority of every agegroup sadly die with current treatment, but even
of the oldest group most do not.[T]he great majority of people will not die from this and I'll just repeat something I said right at the beginning because I think it's worth reinforcing :
Most people, a significant proportion of people, will not get this virus at all, at any point of the epidemic which is going to go on for a long period of time.
Of those who do, some of them will get the virus without even knowing it, they will have the virus with no symptoms at all, asymptomatic carriage, and we know that happens.
Of those who get symptoms, the great majority, probably 80%, will have a mild or moderate disease. Might be bad enough for them to have to go to bed for a few days, not bad enough for them to have to go to the doctor.
An unfortunate minority will have to go as far as hospital, but the majority of those will just need oxygen and will then leave hospital.
And then a minority of those will end up having to go to severe end critical care and some of those sadly will die.
But that's a minority, it's 1% or possibly even less than 1% overall.
And even in the highest risk group this is significantly less than 20%, ie. the great majority of people, even the very highest groups, if they catch this virus, will not die.
And I really wanted to make that point really clearly
May 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
ted01 , May 16 2020 0:17 utc | 32
Australia - deaths from Covid-19Total - 98 (15/05/2020)
0-39 = 0
40-49 = 1
50-59 = 2
60-69 = 11
70-79 = 31
80-89 = 34
90+ = 19Australian Government Dept. of Health
I know it does not fit the fear agenda.
As the lockdown has been eased in most Australian states there have been zero announcements on additional protections for the elderly & infirm.
Why are the Federal & state governments doing nothing but the most basic measures to ensure the safety of the elderly & infirm?
fairleft , May 16 2020 2:37 utc | 37
Yes, Ken Garoo @26, the fearmongers have blood on their hands, not just in the UK, and this is a massive life-and-death crisis. More evidence, from another unimpeachable source various MoA stalwarts will now have to claim is a hack:Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths
Subhead: 'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality"...According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.
"The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent.
"Dr [Stefan Peterson, chief of health at UNICEF] said these figures were in part a reflection of stringent restrictions in much of the world that prevent people leaving their homes without documentation, preventing them from accessing essential health care services. ...
"...Covid is not a children's disease. Yes there are rare instances and we see them publicised across the media. But pneumonia, diarrhoea, measles, death in childbirth, these are the reasons we will see deaths rise."
May 15, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com
Mark Chapman May 9, 2020 at 10:55 am
Hurrah! I have my blogroll back! I'm just starting to build it. At some point in the frequent rollouts of new WordPress features, they added a 'WP Admin' button, which gives access to the 'Links' page and allowed me to eliminate those irritating default links, as well as add new ones. So, I'm just getting started, but among the must-sees I stumbled across while starting out with links I knew I wanted to add right away are one discussing the coronavirus (haven't even read all of it myself yet) at Club Orlov;et Al May 10, 2020 at 1:50 amhttps://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2020/05/gaslighting-coronavirus.html
and a great article, very much on point with this post, at Irrussianality, detailing the absolutely flabbergasting Joint Statement on the Anniversary of the End of the Second World War, on the USA's State Department website. The Nazis get one mention – the rest is non-stop Russia is evil.
https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2020/05/08/joint-statement-on-the-75th-anniversary-of-the-end-of-the-second-world-war/ I'm not sure what Dmitry Orlov does for a living, but if he is exclusively a writer when he's not sailing around, I suppose he is entitled to charge a fee for his product, and I have found it consistently excellent and well-sourced, much like John Helmer's work (although that is still free). Orlov's blog is only $2.50 a month at the basic level of subscriber, and that's cheap enough for me. I encourage readers to subscribe at the same level, because it's an excellent resource. In this case, I had just skipped over it very quickly, because I wanted to add it to the blogroll. I read the first couple of paragraphs, divined that it was not only about the coronavirus, but vindicated many of my own beliefs, and went elsewhere to add another site. I did not notice until I came back to it that it was now subscription-only.
So I'll copy a few salient points for everyone, and they can judge for themselves if they are willing to pay a couple of bucks for that kind of content. It was not all about the coronavirus – it started out about that, and sort of segued into the precarious position the USA is now in economically. So that's why it may look like two different posts; I am just excerpting at random: the entire post is much too long to copy. Presuming you have read as much of the post as was already included as a teaser before it became subscriber-only
"First, let's handle the question of vaccination. There is a measles vaccine, yet it kills 140,000 a year. There is a pneumococcus vaccine, yet it kills between 2 and 2.5 million a year. There is a hepatitis B vaccine, yet it kills 140,000. There is a tetanus vaccine, yet it kills 89,000 annually. There is a rotavirus vaccine, yet it kills 800,000. There is a HPV vaccine, yet it kills 250,000. There is a tuberculosis vaccine, yet it kills 1.5 million. There is an influenza vaccine, yet it kills 650,000 to 1 million a year. None of these are considered pandemics, cause entire economies to be shut down, or call for any extraordinary measures at all.
And then there is the novel coronavirus which has killed 218,187 people to date (the vast majority of them very old and/or very sick) -- and this is considered to be a problem to be solved with all possible haste. Some infectious disease experts have suggested that the entire populace may be required to shelter in place until a vaccine becomes available. Meanwhile, deaths from the novel coronavirus largely fit within the usual mortality of the flu season. The northern hemisphere winter was warmer than usual, and some of the elderly and sick people who would have been killed off by any of the usual influenza viruses (including other coronaviruses) during any of the previous three flu seasons were claimed by the novel coronavirus.
But even this is uncertain because it is unclear whether these 218,187 deaths were actually caused by the coronavirus or whether the coronavirus just happened to be present in their bodies at the time of death. Furthermore, a lot of people were diagnosed as suffering from this coronavirus based on symptoms which are not too different from those caused by other viral agents. Lastly, the vast majority of those who have died from it had what are called comorbidities. Elderly immunocompromised morbidly obese diabetics with high blood pressure, cancer and other potential fatal ailments have been particularly susceptible. If you discard all fatal cases with comorbidities and only consider young healthy people, then the number of deaths where the new coronavirus is obviously the root cause may turn out to be as low as zero.
Confirmed novel coronavirus cases number less than 3,147,626 worldwide, which is 0.04% of the world's population. This barely adds up to a cough and a sneeze. As this virus has spread throughout the world the increase in cases has slowed, but the number of confirmed cases could yet double or even triple, adding up to as much as three coughs and three sneezes. But then the World Health Organization enters the fray. The WHO makes gratuitous use of appellations such as "world" and "health" but is actually a semi-private entity lavishly financed by Bill Gates and Big Pharma, which is owned by a handful of highly inbred oligarchic entities that include Vanguard, BlackRock, Capital Group, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Northern Trust and State Street, which in turn own each other in various convoluted ways. WHO's main function is to scare people into getting vaccinated and accepting expensive drug regimens (barely half of which do any good at all), thus funneling resources toward Big Pharma.
The World Health Organization establishes thresholds to determine whether to declare an influenza epidemic that range between 2.5% and 5%. The novel coronavirus misses the mark by a thousand-fold, yet the WHO has declared it to be the cause of a global pandemic. If this seems like an extreme overreaction, that is because this is an extreme overreaction. Some conspiratorially-minded people may surmise that this is a conspiracy, but it isn't. It is yet another blatant attempt to confiscate a chunk of the world's wealth by requiring it to buy something worthless, just like this same set of medical/financial interests did with the relatively worthless Tamiflu antiviral medication during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic of 2009-10 which caused a mere 18,036 deaths worldwide. This is a specific group pursuing its own group interests."
Then he went into how the Chinese and the Russians are respectively manipulating the coronavirus in their own countries for their own ends
"The Chinese have taken the novel coronavirus outbreak as a chance to train for repelling a biological warfare attack. To argue that this coronavirus is indeed the agent of a biowarfare attack is to argue for something extremely stupid because it just isn't effective as a biowarfare agent. It's almost as bad as Novichok, which was touted as being able to wipe out entire armies but only managed to sicken five people and kill just one of them. It doesn't matter whether this coronavirus leaked out of a dead bat or a biowarfare lab, or both -- it just isn't any good as a weapon. But the Chinese government imposed extreme, unprecedented controls over much of the population and the economy. The Russians followed suit, with the difference that while the Chinese saw these extreme measures as temporary, setting up makeshift hospitals, the Russians seized on them as a chance to fundamentally upgrade the entire health care system, setting it up to effectively handle any future biological warfare attacks.
In doing so, the Chinese and the Russians pursued different goals. The Chinese need to find a way to stop shipping actual physical manufactured goods to the US in exchange for pieces of paper or promises to pay, all of which are about to become worthless, without triggering a dangerous escalation. The need to do so with all necessary haste became obvious in mid-August of 2019, when it turned out that banks were no longer willing to accept US Treasury debt instruments as collateral for overnight loans. These were supposedly the safest investments in the world that made up the world's largest and most liquid financial market -- until it turned out that they weren't that at all."
And on the American economy
"There are two important global processes which, while they will affect the US particularly severely, go far beyond its geographic confines. One is the still relatively gradual process of dethroning the US dollar from its position of dominance. Until the coronavirus pandemic disrupted much of the global economy, most of its participants were interested in preserving some measure of stability to the dollar system. But now that trade has already been disrupted, an opening has been created to dump the dollar without necessarily causing economic damage significantly worse than already exists. The actions of the Federal Reserve, which is in the process of monetizing a large proportion of existing US government debt and virtually all of the new debt being issued to cover the ever-growing budget deficit, are undermining the dollar as well. Although the term "debt monetization" is being used to describe what's happening, issuing currency with which to buy up worthless promissory notes stretches the definition of "debt" beyond any reasonable limit, while "monetization" is far too dignified a term for such a desperate delaying tactic. As a consequence, some analysts do not see US dollar-based global financial system holding up too far beyond this year.
The other process is the rapid transition of the US from the world's largest producer of oil to one of the smallest, because the fracking bonanza has largely run its course. It has never really made any money, since fracked oil is, for technological reasons, always too expensive to sustain economic growth. And now, with an economic depression setting in, economies at a standstill and oil futures trading in the negative territory (where market participants are willing to pay producers to get out of having take delivery of the oil when the contract matures) the fracking industry is going bankrupt, production is falling, and in less than a year it is likely to be down by as much as 70%. At that point, any attempt at economic recovery in the US will involve having to start importing large quantities of oil from a world supply that, with the exception of fracked oil from the US, hasn't expanded much since 2005."
My view is that despite this being all highly disruptive, it will prepare us all for the inevitable outbreak of a truly deadly virus that will also kill the young and healthy too (hopefully not cats). The world is becoming ever more globalized, transmission chains and time seriously shortened. There will be no escape even on the periphery. A biological version of Neville Shute's On the Beach.Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 10:01 amHandling this well (in future) is eminently doable without even losing a (metaphorical) bollock. It is basic stuff and really shouldn't be 'a thing.' The WHO is a redirection nothing burger for those who are responsible for the abrogation of national competence. Decisions are still taken at the national level, no? The WHO is a spokesbody and therein it does have a role to play. It is neither free from political inteference or influence just like every other international organization.
Fortunately, Asia has shown the common-sense that we in the old world have lost through our own arrogance and self-importance. We should be humiliated, but we are not. We're too busy blaming others.
This CoVid-19 outbreak has provided everyone with a crystal clear warning of precisely how incompetent many nation states are over basic provision of health and pandemic planning in the 21st Century. This isn't 1918. Things are supposed to have moved on a bit but it has exposed the ideology of cuts, penny-pinching and not-give-a-f/kery over common-sense by those elected (by us) to provide responsible government. They've been warned multiple times about the risks, not to mention the series of other outbreaks in this century. Still, they're rather more interested in squeaking out ever leaner efficiencies to maximize profit.
I'm not worried about the planet, we'll knock ourselves off first.
Happy Mothers Day!
My initial feeling was that the initial reaction of Putin, Trump and Johnson was to let the thing burn itself out and maybe put the effort into looking after the most at risk. The Imperial College thing seems to be the reason why Trump and Johnson went to lockdown and that left me puzzled why Putin did. Orlov's piece gave me the idea that maybe, after talking to Xi, Putin decided to use it as a test of Russia's ability to handle a bioattack. Notice that Russia is actually building specialised hospitals around the country rather than just (as in the West) temporarily re-purposing large facilities. We'll probably never know but it's a thought I will keep in the Maybe File.Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 10:55 amAgreed; I could think of no good reason for it, and consequently Orlov's speculation came as a revelation. Again, it's only speculation on his part, but it does make sense and fits with the Sino-Russian concept of every experience being a teachable moment, to be wrung for such lessons as it may yield.Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 11:47 amIt is fairly well-known that Johnson's initial plan was to go for herd immunity and just say bollocks to social distancing, but something caused him to abruptly reverse himself after the UK had already started a pretty respectable infection curve. I'm not familiar with the 'Imperial College thing'; could you enlighten me? I do know that impatience at being shut in with no job is increasingly unpopular with people everywhere it prevails, and governments are having a harder time keeping the lid on. I can only imagine it is the same for Putin's government.
Imperial College model https://www.ft.com/content/16764a22-69ca-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 11:57 am
Looks rather GIGO https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/I see; thanks for that. I remember reading mentions of a study which forecast incredible death tolls, but didn't realize that was it. Well, no way they could have done anything else, in the face of that – 2.2 million deaths in the US, and more than half a million in the UK.Patient Observer May 10, 2020 at 12:23 pmI don't suppose they will ever be called to account for their fearmongering quackery. To nobody's surprise, I'm sure, the Imperial College receives generous grants from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the most recent in March of this year – just shy of $80 Million, to develop a new tool for malaria control and elimination in sub-Saharan Africa.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2020/03/OPP1210755
Nor was that the only one, by a long chalk; 80 donations between 2006 and 2018. This website does ask that a disclaimer be included that the data are preliminary; final development is not expected to be achieved until 2022. But at first glance, it looks like the full amount will run into quite a few decimal places.
An under-reported fact in the US is the abundance of empty ICUs and now a surplus of ventilators. A nearby city is laying off 2,500 medical personnel for lack of work (presumably mobilized for the pandemic).Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 12:48 pmIIRC, a local story blew the whistle on a staged waiting line for Covid-19 testing; most of the people in line (including medical volunteers who had nothing to do) were asked to to stand in line to provide video footage for a network news team.
Saw this clever play on words – plandemic.
Yes, that's correct: Cherry Health, in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The article points out that Cherry Health stands to lose millions as a result of the crisis.Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 12:47 pmMore fun to come, Mark https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/05/government-coronavirus-scientist-resigns-meeting-married-lover-lockdown-12659413/Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 12:52 pmHa, ha!! Dear God. Well, I hope he doesn't lose his tasty bit on the side over this – he'll probably top himself. She looks quite yummy. But it's always the same, innit? Those who make up the rules get a great kick out of it, but feel free to disregard them themselves as soon as they get in the way.Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 1:58 pmAnd still more https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/05/httpsenwikipediaorgwikiavaaz.htmlPatrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 1:58 pmAnd still more https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/05/httpsenwikipediaorgwikiavaaz.htmlPatient Observer May 11, 2020 at 5:07 amMakes one wonder if the virus response is being managed at some level to cull the old and frail to reduce health care costs. The obvious vulnerability of nursing home residents combined with the apparent lack of resources specifically devoted to protecting those individuals suggests high level scheming in that regard.Mark Chapman May 11, 2020 at 8:34 amIt was only a few months ago that we exceptional people were told that masks were useless and unneeded (except for health care workers who desperately needed them for self-protection). It is likely that policy lead to a rapid spread in the vulnerable population.
It is remarkable how quickly the "masks are useless" directive has been officially forgotten. Now, it's all about how China allowed us to mishandle the situation.
I would think not, only because no apparent effort has been made to ensure infection of the homeless in their cardboard cities, and wipe them out. Here, as I have mentioned before, Mayor Helps has given them a city park to use as their own squalid state, constantly refers to them tenderly as 'our most vulnerable', and provides them no end of services, all for free on the taxpayer. If your ambitions are modest, there is no real incentive to work.Fern May 12, 2020 at 5:15 pmIf it were all part of a diabolical plan, you would think that plan would allow for taking out the 'useless eaters' among the poor and helpless, as well as the old.
It certainly looks that way but such a plot requires a competence that our political elites (at least in the UK) just don't have. Unfortunately, we're led by the shallow, ignorant and inexperienced who responded to a serious health problem with blind panic. It's common sense that a virus, which is particularly dangerous for the elderly, shouldn't be let out to play in care homes; that steps should have been taken to protect the vulnerable rather than putting everyone under house arrest while destroying their livelihoods. But common sense is a bit like common courtesy, not actually that common when you get right down to it.Mark Chapman May 12, 2020 at 6:04 pmProfessor Neil Ferguson (he of the 500,000 deaths forecast) and his Imperial College team have a dire track record of forecasting in previous health crises, consistently wrong by an order of magnitude. Yet it seems that no-one in government or our once highly competent civil service had either the skills or time to query his forecasting model and the assumptions he made. The fact that he broke the lockdown, introduced as a result of his forecast, in order to dally with his mistress, does kind of suggest he doesn't believe in his own figures.
Yes, it sounds as if you are right. I suppose one reason it looks like a well-managed conspiracy is that it was such a startlingly stupid thing to do – it's difficult to imagine people would willingly cause such destruction without the slightest look to the future.et Al May 13, 2020 at 12:52 amJohnson is an idiot, but his first instinct – or apparently so, I suppose it might have been just paralysis – was the correct one; proceed as normal, no reason to believe this is the Black Death.
The phrase Never let a good crisis go to waste springs to mind.*Mark Chapman May 11, 2020 at 8:28 amIt's almost like the 'pandemic' is just an excuse for something, and the rest is just going through the motions.On relaxation of restrictions, it's mostly a game of feeling for the level of restriction the public will tolerate, because it is so grateful for the degree of freedom allowed it. I imagine when stores are opened, they're going to want Soviet-style lineups outside, social-distancing 6 feet apart, because only 50 people are allowed inside at any one time. So they can social-distance inside as well, as if that were somehow an effective contagious-virus countermeasure, the way grocery stores are now. And 50 seems to be the magic number no matter the size of the store, except for kiosks which are only allowed to serve one person inside at a time.
The local pizza hotspot, Romeo's, seems to be doing a land-office business, and is probably making money. They only serve take-out now, no inside service, so they only have to pay the cooks and perhaps two counter-service persons; no waitresses or waiters or busboys. And the line outside frequently is about a quarter-mile. But they still have to pay their rent based on the size of the building, which is wasteful – look for perhaps quite a few businesses switching to take-out only in the course of time, and renting smaller premises. Because of course The Authorities are going to want social-distancing inside restaurants as well as we emerge, to preserve the illusion that they knew what they were about.
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Case in point. America has a surveillance state but it refuses to use it to save lives. Instead, it uses it to save Wall Street and protect the extractive elite from any TRUE REAL threat. I relish the notion of this virus running rampant across America until it ravages, and decimates actually, the Praetorian Guard Class, the managerial class if you will, that licks the ass of the extractive elite for some bread crust, discarded steak fat and a Tesla. I want to see them truly suffer for their sins.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/12/us/coronavirus-reopening-shutdown.html
After weeks cooped up at home following governors' orders to contain the coronavirus outbreak, U.S. residents appear eager to get moving again. As more states began to relax restrictions, about 25 million more people ventured outside their homes on an average day last week than during the preceding six weeks, a New York Times analysis of cellphone data found .
In nearly every part of the country, the share of people staying home dropped, in some places by nearly 11 percentage points.
As the death toll from this pandemic rises in America with no end in sight, Wall Street, as reflected in the DJIA, doesn't even blink and actually cheers. It doesn't get any sicker than that. Wall Street sees the carnage as an opportunity to make more profit off of death and the extractive elite see it as an opportunity to concentrate wealth even further and rid the world of burdensome useless eaters. It's sick. It's sadistic. It's malevolent. It's evil. It's our reality.
Damn them all to hell.
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The coronavirus reminds us that the gap between what we think we know and what we actually do know is enormous.
Dr. Deborah Birx, White House coronavirus response coordinator, shows off charts with members of the coronavirus task force during a briefing in response to the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images)May 13, 2020
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Matt Purple St. Louis Federal Reserve watchers, rejoice! And yes, I'm talking to both of you. The St. Louis Fed is freshly relevant this week thanks to a paper it published back in 2007 that examined the economic effects of the 1918 Spanish flu. Drawing on old newspaper articles, local surveys, and other studies -- national data back then was scarce -- the report found that the damage done to businesses by the outbreak was both severe and short-lived. The impact on the next generation, however, was longer-lasting. Those in utero during the pandemic went on to attain less education and lower incomes than had previous generations.What we wouldn't give for that kind of glimpse from the future today. The coronavirus has killed hundreds of thousands while sledgehammering the economy, leaving close to a quarter of working-age Americans either unemployed or underemployed. And we still have no idea how it will end. It may be that this recession is similar to the one in 1918, cutting deeply but easing rapidly. Or it may be that we're in for another lost decade of stubborn unemployment and stagnant growth. It may be that the virus is seen off this summer, remembered as a frightening but ultimately brief ordeal. Or it may be that it lurks into the autumn, whereupon it comes roaring back.
We don't know, and we hate that we don't know. Consequently a cottage industry has sprung up around our uncertainty, hawking models, projections, expert opinions. These things have valid scientific purposes, of course, but thrown down the rabbit hole of our popular discourse, they've taken on a kind of hysterical clairvoyance, supposedly able to tell us what's coming and how we should respond. With climate change, we grew accustomed to the idea that scientists could see into the future. Now we're demanding they do the same with the coronavirus. That's despite the fact that so far, none of these projections have demonstrated any greater predictive ability than your average call to Miss Cleo.
Take the government's official death toll projections. Back in January, the White House was largely complacent over the coronavirus, with President Trump comparing it to the seasonal flu and his health secretary saying that Americans need "not worry for their own safety." Then in late March, the pendulum swung towards apocalypse. Actually, the White House said, 200,000 Americans could die. Two weeks later, the death toll projection fell to a far rosier 60,000 , and the country breathed a sigh of relief ahead of Easter weekend. Then the projections ticked upwards yet again. Today, IHME, the White House's principal modeler, predicts that 147,000 Americans will be killed by August 4.
Some of the issue here may be the choice of models. IHME has been criticized by epidemiologists , as have the Imperial College modelers in Britain (who have lately been distracted by, er, more extracurricular activities ). But the bigger problem is best summed up in a quote to Politico by the head of IHME, explaining why his organization's projections were so wrong. "We had presumed, perhaps naively," he said, "that given the magnitude of the epidemic, most states would stick to their social distancing until the end of May." In other words, the models are premised on assumptions that can be scrambled by real-world events, whether political decisions or acts of God or the caprices of the virus itself. They aren't showing us the future so much as extrapolating off of a snapshot, one that can easily change. Yet we treat them as practically mystic. "200,000 could die!!" scream the headlines, with "could" ever the weasel word.
We don't just do this with the death toll. On the economy, too, we seem hopelessly confused. Here's a smattering of headlines from the past two months: "Unemployment rate could exceed 20% by June, top White House adviser says." "Economists see uneven jobs recovery, high U.S. unemployment through 2021." "Top JPMorgan investment advisor: It will take '10 to 12 years' for U.S. employment levels to return." "The coronavirus recession will be deeper and faster than the financial crisis." "Economists say quick rebound from recession is unlikely." "Trump's baseless claim that a recession would be deadlier than the coronavirus." "U.N. warns economic downturn could kill hundreds of thousands of children in 2020."
Stare into this blurry puddle long enough and you might conclude that no one has any idea what the hell they're talking about. Or you might fall back on your own biases, choosing to believe stories that buttress your political beliefs and speak to your own personal circumstances. Either way, this kind of confusion can have long-reaching effects. Consider, for example, a new study that was released last week, which found that there could be 75,000 so-called deaths of despair -- meaning suicides and drug and alcohol overdoses -- as a result of the coronavirus recession. It called to mind another social science finding , one of the most consequential of the last decade: that life expectancy among less educated, middle-aged, white Americans was declining, driven primarily by those deaths of despair.
That claim, courtesy of researchers Anne Case and Angus Deaton , made its way around the internet. It fed into the narrative of the populist right and Donald Trump. It provided an empirical grounding for "American carnage." But wait: a less noticed study a year later, which took Case's and Deaton's data and adjusted for age, found a more mixed picture. According to research from Columbia University , while middle-aged white women had indeed seen increased mortality rates, middle-aged white men had reversed this trend back in 2005. And then came another study, in the American Journal of Public Health , that challenged the very concept of "deaths of despair," warning that "the gap between deaths of despair as a claim and deaths of despair as a rigorously tested scientific concept is wide."
There is a Grand Canyon-sized gap between what we think we know and what we actually know. How to navigate this chasm? Two maxims can help.
The first comes from Friedrich Hayek: "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." Hayek was concerned with what he called the "fatal conceit," which he defined as the belief "that man is able to shape the world around him according to his wishes." We might add a corollary: that man is able to anticipate the world around him according to his wishes. Because knowledge is complex and dispersed, Hayek argued, no one can ever marshal enough of it to centrally plan an economy. Likewise even a sophisticated model can't have enough data to foresee how a pandemic will play out. There are simply too many variables, drawing on too many areas of life.
The second maxim comes from a very different source: John Dickinson, perhaps our most conservative founding father. "Experience must be our only guide," Dickinson said. "Reason may mislead us." Of course, by reason, he didn't mean vast computer algorithms struggling to track contagion across seven continents; he was thinking of 18th-century rationalism, which he contrasted with the more reliable yardstick of historical experience. While what seemed philosophically sound in the abstract could be tainted by personal bias or disconnected from real life, precedent was far more settled. How something had worked in the past was a good indication of how it would work in the future.
Unfortunately we have very little precedent when it comes to the coronavirus, though the Spanish flu can perhaps offer some clues. The 1918 influenza, like the current pandemic, began in the spring, only to enter a second wave in the fall that killed more people than the first. A third wave then began that winter and stretched into the summer of 1919. That's chilling, yet there's good news too: the recession that followed was short and quickly blossomed into the 1920s, one of the most dizzying economic expansions in our history.
So top hats and flapper dresses all around? Who knows? It's called the novel coronavirus for a reason. The awful truth is that we have very little idea how long this will go on and how it will ultimately turn out. And the reason for that is that we know so very much less than we think we do.
May 13, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
"Paul's challenge encapsulates the debate between elected officials eager to open up businesses and willing to accept the risk that more people will die, and public health experts committed to lowering infection rates and keeping the public as safe as possible.
" People are hurting and we're destroying our country ," Paul told reporters outside the hearing room. "We've got to open up business we got to let people vote, and we're not going to live in a perfect world without infectious disease, we're still going to have it, but we got to open the economy and that's the number one message I have."
The Kentucky senator, an opthamologist, told Fauci he didn't believe there would be a surge in cases if schools opened, which is not what public health experts say. Paul dismissed predictive models of the virus. "The history of this, when we look back, will be of wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction ," Paul said.
Paul then targeted Fauci personally: "As much as I respect you Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end-all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make the decision . We can listen to your advice. But there are people on the other side saying there won't be a surge and we can safely open the economy." CNBC
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IMO, there may or may not be an effective vaccine developed against COVID-19. Some virus bugs are never countered effectively by vaccines. There are no vaccines for the common cold, the Spanish Influenza of 1918, and many other virus strains. Some diseases must burn themselves out in a population by establishing herd immunity. Bubonic Plague is a bacterial infection, but the same thing was true of it. It ravaged Europe, but eventually the fire of infection burned out in Europe and those of us who are descended from Europeans are the descendants of the herd survivors.
COVID-19 is nothing like the Black Death or the Spanish Influenza in lethality except for the old and infirm. Suck it up, people! Cowboy up! Grow a pair! Fauci is a techno dweeb who would keep the US shut down economically until the survivors of COVID-19 would be living in a post-apocalyptic world of small communities living in poverty, a dystopian nightmare.
Rand Paul is also a doctor, and a survivor of the disease.
The Democrats are having a good time playing with Trump while the country burns to the ground economically.
Biden? Pelosi? Juan Williams? Northam? You want them? If you do, and you want to hunker down until the country dies, well then, Bless You! You will deserve what you get.
SWMBO and I, and the doggies are unlikely to be here to share your pain. pl
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Jack , 12 May 2020 at 06:46 PM
Sir,james , 12 May 2020 at 06:55 PMLA County apparently wants to extend the lockdown by another 3 months. This is just insane!
Old guys like me could hang out more at the ranch but the youth need to be out and about.
There's no perfect risk-free scenario as you point out. Unfortunately we have cultivated a nanny state of big government and big business that are quite rapacious in reality. Has any state actually passed legislation to enforce lockdowns? These are just executive orders at the state and local levels. It would appear that these orders suspends the constitution? I'm surprised no one has yet challenged these orders in state and federal courts.
We sure are an afraid lot. What happened to the derring-do?
maybe they could do a special ufc - wrestling type show with paul and fauci.. the american public seem very keen on this sort of thing and would eat it up..Keith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 07:04 PMcan someone explain how herd immunity works?? i've never heard of people being referred to as a herd... i missed that in school..
BTW, notice how Ukraine has vanished from the national conversation.turcopolier , 12 May 2020 at 07:21 PM
Who needs to keep yapping about how Trump let down (one faction in) Ukraine when they can blame him for the economic calamity which, in point of fact, is due to the vast overreaction that has been pushed by the media and Dem politicians.
For example, failing to point out that New York has unique demographics, which directly and conclusively led to its high hospitalization and fatality rate.jamesKeith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 08:02 PMA key point the media doesn't adequately emphasize, IMO, is the sharpness of the dependency on age.Fred , 12 May 2020 at 08:05 PM
In Virginia, there have been, to date, roughly 900 deaths attributed to the virus.
Of those deaths, over half were to people over 80.
Roughly one quarter were people in their 70s.
About 15% were people on their 60s.
Less than 10% were people under 60.
There were ZERO deaths of people under 20.To see a bar chart which shows the exact numbers, visit
https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/
Then click on "Demographics", then set "Select Measure" to "Deaths"."public health experts"John Merryman , 12 May 2020 at 08:07 PM
These folks appear to be expert only at guaranteeing thier jobs. The backpedaling, double speak and out right fraud is beyond shameless. I notice we aren't talking about the Georgia death count any longer but St. Travoon of the skittles accolyte. This thing is over but for NYC and the politicians in the democratic death traps being governed by fools. Ordering infected elderly patients back to nursing homes, which experts advised that to Cuomo and Whitmer? Suicide, drug overdoses, those deaths don't count?"Biden? Pelosi? Juan Williams? Northam? You want them?" No, nor Whitmer nor Newsom. If we get them I won't be around much longer than your doggies and I'm much younger than you and SWMBO.
I think a big part of the problem is the total lack of any deeper philosophic debate, as part of a normal social functioning. People want answers not truths, so there are plenty of politicians and priests, but philosophy is neutered and left to the back alleys of academia.Eric Newhill , 12 May 2020 at 08:19 PM
We are linear, goal oriented creatures in a cyclical, reciprocal, feedback generated reality, in which there is this organic interplay between competition and cooperation, as well as public and private functions of society, etc. So when we impose this goal oriented model on those facts of life, we end up with a bunch of absolutist ideologs running the world and using the other side as boogymen to rally their cultists. Rather than appreciating such interplay is fundamental to life.
When we have such a fundamentally primitive understanding of how reality functions, having nuanced discussion of life and death issues is not possible.The people won't stand for Fausti's nonsense, nor the Democrats'. They will just open their businesses and local governments - especially county level - will allow it. Already happening in PA. Heck even some states are doing it. As counties and states open up, the populations of those that do not will become increasingly agitated and begin to break "the rules". There will be a ripple effect. The cowards and social media magnates and leftists will call them names and wave fingers at them, but the people won't care. Actually they will continue to open with even more fervor just to give give these "elites" the finger.Jack , 12 May 2020 at 06:46 PMAs always, the socialist/dictator class ignores human nature and believes people can be programmed. As always, they are wrong. People are no longer buying the models and case rates BS, etc. that the "scientists" put out there. Geekery ain't cutting it any more.
Hopefully, this will all occur peacefully with the socialists/dictators just throwing up their hands. If they double down, then the tree of liberty gets watered. Probably the outcome that needs to happen, terrible as it is. Right now Pelosi is trying to develop a plan to bribe the people into staying locked down and vote democrat. It will fail.
Sir,james , 12 May 2020 at 06:55 PMLA County apparently wants to extend the lockdown by another 3 months. This is just insane!
Old guys like me could hang out more at the ranch but the youth need to be out and about.
There's no perfect risk-free scenario as you point out. Unfortunately we have cultivated a nanny state of big government and big business that are quite rapacious in reality. Has any state actually passed legislation to enforce lockdowns? These are just executive orders at the state and local levels. It would appear that these orders suspends the constitution? I'm surprised no one has yet challenged these orders in state and federal courts.
We sure are an afraid lot. What happened to the derring-do?
maybe they could do a special ufc - wrestling type show with paul and fauci.. the american public seem very keen on this sort of thing and would eat it up..Keith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 07:04 PMcan someone explain how herd immunity works?? i've never heard of people being referred to as a herd... i missed that in school..
BTW, notice how Ukraine has vanished from the national conversation.turcopolier , 12 May 2020 at 07:21 PM
Who needs to keep yapping about how Trump let down (one faction in) Ukraine when they can blame him for the economic calamity which, in point of fact, is due to the vast overreaction that has been pushed by the media and Dem politicians.
For example, failing to point out that New York has unique demographics, which directly and conclusively led to its high hospitalization and fatality rate.jamesKeith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 08:02 PMA key point the media doesn't adequately emphasize, IMO, is the sharpness of the dependency on age.Fred , 12 May 2020 at 08:05 PM
In Virginia, there have been, to date, roughly 900 deaths attributed to the virus.
Of those deaths, over half were to people over 80.
Roughly one quarter were people in their 70s.
About 15% were people on their 60s.
Less than 10% were people under 60.
There were ZERO deaths of people under 20.To see a bar chart which shows the exact numbers, visit
https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/
Then click on "Demographics", then set "Select Measure" to "Deaths"."public health experts"John Merryman , 12 May 2020 at 08:07 PM
These folks appear to be expert only at guaranteeing thier jobs. The backpedaling, double speak and out right fraud is beyond shameless. I notice we aren't talking about the Georgia death count any longer but St. Travoon of the skittles accolyte. This thing is over but for NYC and the politicians in the democratic death traps being governed by fools. Ordering infected elderly patients back to nursing homes, which experts advised that to Cuomo and Whitmer? Suicide, drug overdoses, those deaths don't count?"Biden? Pelosi? Juan Williams? Northam? You want them?" No, nor Whitmer nor Newsom. If we get them I won't be around much longer than your doggies and I'm much younger than you and SWMBO.
I think a big part of the problem is the total lack of any deeper philosophic debate, as part of a normal social functioning. People want answers not truths, so there are plenty of politicians and priests, but philosophy is neutered and left to the back alleys of academia.Eric Newhill , 12 May 2020 at 08:19 PM
We are linear, goal oriented creatures in a cyclical, reciprocal, feedback generated reality, in which there is this organic interplay between competition and cooperation, as well as public and private functions of society, etc. So when we impose this goal oriented model on those facts of life, we end up with a bunch of absolutist ideologs running the world and using the other side as boogymen to rally their cultists. Rather than appreciating such interplay is fundamental to life.
When we have such a fundamentally primitive understanding of how reality functions, having nuanced discussion of life and death issues is not possible.The people won't stand for Fausti's nonsense, nor the Democrats'. They will just open their businesses and local governments - especially county level - will allow it. Already happening in PA. Heck even some states are doing it. As counties and states open up, the populations of those that do not will become increasingly agitated and begin to break "the rules". There will be a ripple effect. The cowards and social media magnates and leftists will call them names and wave fingers at them, but the people won't care. Actually they will continue to open with even more fervor just to give give these "elites" the finger.As always, the socialist/dictator class ignores human nature and believes people can be programmed. As always, they are wrong. People are no longer buying the models and case rates BS, etc. that the "scientists" put out there. Geekery ain't cutting it any more.
Hopefully, this will all occur peacefully with the socialists/dictators just throwing up their hands. If they double down, then the tree of liberty gets watered. Probably the outcome that needs to happen, terrible as it is. Right now Pelosi is trying to develop a plan to bribe the people into staying locked down and vote democrat. It will fail.
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We need a radically different model to tackle the COVID-19 crisis | By James K. Galbraith 12/05/2020
The Current Situation in the United States: May 2020
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James K. GalbraithTwo weeks ago week the US death toll from Covid-19 exceeded that of US soldiers in Vietnam, 1955-1974. On May 1 the one-day toll reached a new high, greater than that in New York City on September 11, 2001. Meanwhile economic output has collapsed and over thirty million Americans had filed unemployment claims as of April 30, 2020. On the public health front, testing remains inadequate, contact tracing non-existent, treatment options appear stalled and millions remain uninsured. The federal bailouts have worked well in one way only: to spur a modest revival of stocks and to forestall massive defaults on bonds.
The failures of the public health system border on sabotage. Test kits were available from the WHO in January; the US elected not to use them. The first production of tests from the CDC was botched. Testing was deliberately limited as community transmission grew, so that the virus escaped from early containment that might have been possible. Lockdowns and quarantines came late, were poorly organized and weakly enforced. Supplies of PPE were not allocated to hospitals and health care providers according to need; the Defense Production Act was not deployed in timely and effective manner to ramp up home production; no effective federal system to manage international medical supply chains exists to this day. While some firms have no doubt done their best, reports of profiteering and scams are rampant.
The push to reopen the economy is a further mark of failure. As food supply workers were not properly protected, unacceptable levels of sickness and workplace contamination have occurred, notably in meat. Food banks are in crisis, while milk, eggs and other perishables are wasted. State governments facing fiscal catastrophe press businesses to reopen on terms that cannot be profitable, because capacity is constrained for health reasons. The openings are calculated to force workers off of unemployment insurance, which can be revoked if they decline to return to risky jobs. Many smaller businesses are deciding not to reopen; they will face bankruptcy instead and disappear. Although evictions and foreclosures are technically deferred, many landlords have ignored this and in any event rent, mortgages, utility bills and other debts continue to accrue.
Models of the pandemic now openly predict infections rising further as lockdowns are relaxed, to the point of testing the capacity of health care systems even in parts of the country not yet severely affected. Whether this will happen or not is not yet clear; the public may continue, as a general rule, to practice safe contact behavior, and if the transmission rates hold below 1, as they presently are estimated to be in almost all of the American states , the pandemic may continue to decline. But if the models are borne out, death rates will rise by many multiples of their current values. These events are projected to lead to further lock-downs on a rolling basis, until such time as a vaccine or therapy is available. There is no guarantee of either.
Read also: Brazil's Haddad Extends Support to 23% of Voter IntentEven if the pandemic is now contained the economy will not revert to "normal." The United States is a premier producer of energy, aerospace, advanced information technologies and financial services. It assembles many million automobiles, appliances and other consumer durable goods every year. The oil sector has suffered a price collapse and borders now on mass bankruptcy; when fracking wells are capped they will sand up and become very costly to reopen, so the US energy-based economic expansion is over. Airplanes are lined up in parking spaces; no new civilian passenger airliners will be needed indefinitely. Households who are either unemployed or working from home (and therefore not commuting) or that face deferred rent and mortgages will not soon be in the market for new cars; in any event the old ones will last longer as they are being driven much less. As office buildings remain empty, new ones will not be built. Similarly for retail stores, already driven to the wall by on-line ordering and deliveries. The banking sector is on the hook for energy loans gone bad, and for household debts, and for corporate loans that will be at risk once the bailout money runs low. The debts built up during the pandemic will be defaulted in many cases, ruining credit for the households affected. All of which foretells a long depression even under the best foreseeable public health conditions. A cycle of infections and lock-downs will make all of this that much worse.
There is an illusion about, that the recent prosperity can be revived by "reopening." But many industries – aircraft, airlines, hotels, automobiles, appliances, commercial construction, energy – will definitely shrink, whatever happens now and no matter how much money they receive. The bailouts were a measure predicated on the idea that these industries were facing just a temporary interruption. But it is difficult to see how bankruptcies and liquidations can be avoided if there is no revival in the demand for product. And large-scale production relies on interlinked supply-chains, so that if a single major producer (for example one of the majors in the automotive sector) fails, there is a risk of cascading liquidations (for example in auto parts), making operations difficult – perhaps impossible – for the survivors. In these industries the supply chains and subcontractors are much larger in the aggregate than the assembly operations of the final production firm.
Higher education, a large sector in America, faces a crisis of high costs, collapsing enrollments and the actual alternative of cheap on-line instruction in many fields. This was already in the works for demographic reasons, and is now being accelerated by the loss of household wealth. Health care, ten times larger, also faces financial difficulties as millions are losing their insurance and – for the moment anyway – as accidents, other infectious diseases and such are down, depriving doctors and hospitals of reimbursements. Service industries from restaurants to retailers cannot function profitably at one-quarter of capacity; bars, nightclubs, and most sporting venues cannot reopen at all.
Read also: America's Painful Self-delusionFederal decision-making has failed at every level. In the executive branch, it has been at best a complex of incompetence, denial, and political motivation. At worst, decisions were taken and are still being taken in full knowledge of the projected death rates and potential for private profiteering, both in the medical sector and in the larger financial economy. It is known that some private speculators made over three hundred billion dollars shorting the stock market before the February collapse, and that some Members of Congress sold their holdings based on information provided in intelligence briefings. Congressional action has been slow, marred by politics, lobbies, regional rivalries, poor judgment and a misdiagnosis of the economic issues, as Congress reached for legislative models used in past business downturns, especially the crisis of 2007-2009, which had no quarantine or other public health component.
The specific policies implemented were plagued by problems. To calculate payments under the first CARES Act, the IRS had to use filings from tax year 2018, and also ran into printing bottlenecks for paper checks that had to be mailed to those without direct deposit. Unemployment insurance benefits were made relatively generous, and the state unemployment insurance web-sites could not handle the crush, so they crashed, leaving many without the ability to access the program. Instead of simple wage replacement (which would have protected health insurance and union membership) the Small Business Administration issued rules that appeared unusable for many firms, banks gave preference to favored clients, and in the first round also the money soon ran out. In short, the effort to save the economy by pouring money into it through conventional channels was inadequate, ill-considered, inefficient, and in some respects corrupt. The best that may be said is that it was much better than doing nothing at all.
As events progress, the usual pattern of property sales and purchases cannot proceed. So property values will collapse, leaving millions of homeowners without equity; as this happens, mass foreclosures and property seizures are inevitable under the present legal rules. Predatory private investors will buy distressed assets at firesale prices and the American population will revert, largely to renter status. For those with means, private tutors and doctors will remain available; the others will manage as they can. Needless to say, depression, despair, drug abuse and suicide will prevail.
Or maybe they won't . In the wake of the Great Financial Crisis, it was possible – barely possible, but possible – to shift the blame from the bankers to the victims, from those who built a massively fraudulent financial system to those who took out the loans that they could not repay. But there was no viral element, no public health trigger, to that crisis. This one is different. Every development described above is a consequence, direct or indirect, of the coronavirus. Those who were laid off, and who went home, and who broke the transmission of the disease, did their part, just as health-care professionals and grocery clerks did theirs. Their legal case for relief remains weak. But the moral case is strong and the economic case is beyond dispute. Even the incumbent Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin, a foreclosure-predator of the first water after 2008, has stated that the economic crisis "is no fault of American business, it is no fault of American workers, it is the fault of a virus." This is true but it does not mean that things will return to the past if the virus can be made to go away.
Read also: IMF issues warning over growing Chinese debt problemsTo move forward, first of all, debts incurred before and during the pandemic will have to be written down. The energy sector and transport sectors will have to be rebuilt, based far more on renewables and sources other than oil. A large share of basic industries – especially in the health sector – will have to be repatriated so that basic sufficiency exists in this country. Millions of people will be needed to monitor and support public health; jobs for them must be organized and funded by the government. State and local governments will have to be federally-funded, in substantial part, to provide basic public services. New and sustainable housing must be built, in new community structures. High speed broadband must be provided to all. A new financing model – cooperative, with public support – will be required to re-establish small businesses. Local, decentralized cultural and sporting venues will have to replace mass-based experiences; these too will require cooperative structures and public support. In short, the only way out, remotely acceptable to the population at large, will require a comprehensive restructuring of the economy on a cooperative foundation, with the government stepping up to guaranteed funding, employment, and public investments.
Disaster capitalism is being tried, and the worst case is now the likely case. But there is a scale beyond which disaster capitalism cannot go. At a certain point, the carnage becomes too great to neglect, impossible to avoid and lethal to overlook. At a certain point, ordinary people will stand up and refuse to be bullied any more. That point has not quite arrived; we are still in the mind-set of "getting back to normal," even as the pandemic continues. The contradiction between normality and public health is on people's minds; the impossibility of returning to the previous abnormal-normal has not yet settled in. It will, in due course. At that point, the question of alternatives will have to be faced.
May 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Trailer Trash , May 12 2020 14:58 utc | 113
>Patient #1 was a 35 year old male who presented at a Seattle (WA) clinic on Jan 15, 2020A month later Fauci was still proclaiming in public that the evil virus was less of a problem than the annual influenza. Someplace there is a video of Fauci saying this, right around Feb 15.
I can not understand how even complete incompetents manage to make exactly the wrong decision at every opportunity. In the UK there was a policy to send elderly patients, both suspected and known to have the virus, to care homes, without even warning the care home people. Supposedly it was to make room for corona patients who were even sicker than the ones going into care homes. This is straight-up criminal negligence.
Here are sordid details from the New York Post :
The governor -- who himself has described nursing homes as a "feeding frenzy'' for the deadly coronavirus -- said that the facilities can't challenge a state regulation forcing them to admit patients with the contagion .The CEO of a hard-hit Brooklyn nursing home, where 55 patients have died from the coronavirus, told The Post last week that he'd been warning state Health Department officials for weeks he had staffing and equipment issues -- yet received little help.
"There is no way for us to prevent the spread under these conditions,'' the head of the Cobble Hill Health Center, Donny Tuchman, wrote in an e-mail to the department on April 8.
He said he asked to move some patients to the makeshift wards at Manhattan's Javits Center and aboard the city-docked USNS Comfort amid the pandemic, only to be told those two spots were receiving only patients from hospitals.
"I made specific requests to transfer patients, and it didn't happen,'' Tuchman told The Post. "There weren't options."
Deliberate policy decisions have killed and continue to kill people. That is perfectly clear, even while the origins of the virus and the intent of decisions are hiding in the muck. Will relatives of the dead just accept this as "an act of god", or will they come to understand these events as "acts of dear leaders"?
For two months Dear Leaders have claimed that destroying the economy, house arrest, and no care home visitors are for the express purpose of protecting ... care home residents. But most of the dead were care home residents, along with plenty of their care workers.
Yes it sounds melodramatic but I keep seeing black-and-white images of people being herded into shower rooms in order to get showered with Zyklon B. Please tell me why we are not witnessing state-sanctioned murder.
May 12, 2020 | www.rt.com
Republican Senator Rand Paul has challenged National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Dr Anthony Fauci on the nation's Covid-19 policy, suggesting the US is waiting too long to reopen. Paul, who also has a medical degree, called for "a little bit of humility in our belief that we know what's best for our economy," questioning Fauci's support for a prolonged economic shutdown during a Senate hearing on the government's coronavirus response on Tuesday.
Sen. Paul argues school decisions should be made district by district, tells Dr. Fauci: "I don't think you're the end all."Fauci: "I'm a scientist... I think we better be careful if we are not cavalier in thinking that children are completely immune to the deleterious effects." pic.twitter.com/dIjXwkM5AU
-- NBC News (@NBCNews) May 12, 2020With all due respect I don't think you're the end-all, I don't think you're the one person who gets to make a decision.
"I hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom and saying oh we can't do this there's going to be a surge will admit they're wrong if there isn't a surge," the senator continued, calling for the Trump administration to listen to experts who disagreed with the "doom and gloom" predictions of Fauci and his ilk.
" In rural states, we never really reached any sort of pandemic levels in Kentucky and other states ," Paul pointed out, even as he acknowledged that " New England " had been hit hard by the virus. " We have less deaths in Kentucky than we have in an average flu season. "
Antibody tests show Ohio had first Covid-19 cases as early as JANUARY – state health director" We don't know everything about this virus ," Fauci countered, challenging that children in some parts of the country were turning up with " a very strange inflammatory syndrome " similar to Kawasaki syndrome.
" You're right in the numbers that children do much much better .but I am very careful, and hopefully humble, in knowing that I don't know everything about this disease, and that's why I'm very reserved in making broad predictions ," Fauci continued.
Paul added that continuing the lockdown would widen the class divide, explaining that if children are kept out of school for months on end, then "the poor and underprivileged kids who don't have a parent that's able to teach them at home aren't going to be able to learn for a full year." He also said that the catastrophic narrative painting Covid-19 as a killer necessitating mass shutdowns had gotten started with "wrong prediction after wrong prediction," starting with the British scientist Neil Ferguson's apocalyptic forecasts – even as the British scientist had been meeting secretly with his mistress in violation of the lockdown he'd been championing.
Fauci's supporters took to social media to slam his opponent, noting that Paul had gone to the Senate gym while infected with the coronavirus and perhaps infected others. They also cited high numbers of Covid-19 cases in Paul's home county of Warren County, Kentucky.
Watching Republicans cheer on Rand Paul "taking on" Dr. Fauci almost perfectly characterizes the anti-intellectual, anti-reason, anti-fact, and frankly degenerate state of the Republican Party.
-- Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) May 12, 2020Warren County, Kentucky – where Rand Paul lives – has more COVID-19 cases per capita than 51 of the 67 counties in New England states.Senator Paul is wrong and the ignorant message he is peddling is dangerous. There is no special immunity to this virus based on where you live. https://t.co/l9u5RBYR2J
-- Rep. Don Beyer (@RepDonBeyer) May 12, 2020Meanwhile, the senator's backers took the exact same exchange as proof that Paul had " destroyed " Fauci.
Rand Paul saves the day! Calls out the "experts" and says you are not the "end all" to make all decisions. GAME, SET, MATCH.
-- Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) May 12, 2020Rand Paul absolutely destroys Dr. Fraudci. "I don't think you're the end all. I don't think you're the one person who gets to make the decision." pic.twitter.com/nvljuGAy5u
-- LivePDDave 🇺🇸 🚨 🥊 (@LivePDDave1) May 12, 2020Federal 'social distancing' guidelines were lifted at the end of April, but hotspots like New York and California have extended their economic shutdowns as lesser-hit states have begun to relax restrictions.
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"The history of this when we look back will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction... As much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision," said Paul - who added that we need to "observe with an open eye what happened in Sweden, where the kids kept going to school."
"The mortality per capita in Sweden is actually less than France, less than Italy, less than Spain, less than Belgium, less than the Netherlands, about the same as Switzerland. But basically I don't think there's anybody arguing that what happened in Sweden is an unacceptable result. I think people are intrigued by it, and we should be."
"I don't think any of us are certain when we do all these modelings - there have been more people wrong with modeling than right. We're opening up a lot of economies around the US, and I hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom and saying 'oh, we can't do this, there's going to be a surge' - will admit when there isn't a surge."
Watch:
Sen. Rand Paul:
"The history of this when we look back will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction... As much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision." pic.twitter.com/SP9T638y2B
— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) May 12, 2020Fauci responded, (25 seconds in below), saying "Sen. Paul, I have never made myself out to be the end-all & only voice of this. I'm a scientist, a physician, and a public health official."
He then offered a 'but, the children!' argument - latching onto Paul's comment that we don't know everything about the virus, and that "we really better be very careful, particularly when it comes to children."
"Because the more and more we learn - we're seeing things about what this virus can do that we didn't see from the studies in China. Or in Europe. For example, right now children presenting with COVID-19 who actually have a very strange inflammatory symdrome, very similar to Kawasaki syndrome. I think we better be careful that we are not cavalier in thinking that children are not immune to the deleterious effects.
"I never made myself to be out the end all. I’m a scientist, a physician, and a public health official. I give advice according to the best scientific evidence. "
Dr. Fauci responds to @RandPaul pic.twitter.com/gxOWB9BTQ4
— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) May 12, 2020I have not promoted the #FireFauci movement. I've defended him. But now...
Fauci responded to a factual-based inquiry by @RandPaul w/an egregious allusion to some mystery Kawasaki-like disease & tripled-down on his aversion to a 2020-21 school session.
I'm done.#FIREFAUCI
— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) May 12, 2020
mikesap, 3 minutes ago
Al Agent, 3 minutes agoWhy isn't anyone asking directly about the 'gain of function' studies that NIH was doing on the US prior to outsourcing the experiments to Wuhan and illegally funding it via the NIH....why is there a need to lockdown 300m people for a relative small number of deaths which in turn are focused on the elderly with prior illnesses...what is the relationship betwe3n the CDC and the European CDC... does the European CDC pay European hospitals for every diagnosis and every ventilator use.... its all BS...hopefully people are beginning to smell a rat and through these bums out....
Templar X, 16 minutes agoTrue. Fauci wasn't elected to make policy; in fact, he wasn't elected at all! He was employed to advise on what happens under different scenarios. Trump's economic advisors weren't elected to make policy; in fact, they weren't elected at all! They are employed to advise on what happens under different scenarios.
Congress and The President decide on policy. They were elected to do that.
theWHTMANN, 32 minutes agoThere will never be a vaccine for COVID-19 which is safe, effective, and worthwhile.
The fastest a vaccine has ever been developed in the past was four years after the first appearance of a new infectious disease.
Four years from now people will either have herd immunity or they will be dead.
Within a year or two, the COVID-19 virus will likely mutate itself to death, or it will weaken and become no worse than a regular flu virus.
COVID-19 is, apparently, less harmful to people under 65 years of age and those with no underlying health conditions, which, of course, is also true of the common flu.
mrpc, 30 minutes agoHow come no one asks Fauci straight to his face regarding all the deaths that will happen because of the lockdown (missed surgeries, suicide, famine, et al.). What is this con man's response? He doesn't care? What if non-COVID deaths because of the lockdown are 3x or 4x the COVID deaths? What then? Does anyone ask this fool Fauci whether he will take responsibility for anything?
sun tzu, 34 minutes ago (Edited)Like Fauci says himself, in the interview, he gives advice. He doesn't make the decisions.
PerilouseTimes, 8 minutes agoWhere's the carnage in Georgia, Florida, Texas, and South Carolina from reopening? I see no massive surge in the hospitals or deaths. The only carnage I see is in the nursing homes in New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts all states run by Democrats
Roger Casement, 37 minutes agoI made an appointment for a procedure this week and had to go in for covid pretesting today. It was my second test in three months. I worked with and personally interacted with, people that tested positive for covid in mid March. I was unusually sick in January and have talked to many others that was strange sick in January as well. After speaking with the health professionals and the people I know in and around this, I am convinced that this is all a load of ****. I had covid in Jan, and so did many of the others I worked with. The nurse I just talked to said to me that her and her family along with many people that she is testing was convinced that they had it between Dec. and Feb. I'm in GA and it is long past time to get this show on the road.
NumbNuts, 39 minutes agoX22 Report Fauci's Connections To Wuhan Ready To Be Exposed - Episode 2171c
---ZerooreZ---, 56 minutes agoFauci is dangerous:
Those experiments were going on in the United States until 2014. They were Dr. Anthony Fauci's projects. President Obama ordered that to stop because they had a lot of lab escape problems in 2014 from three different labs
Instead of stopping as he was ordered, Fauci moved those operations to the Wuhan lab in China and continued to do those experiments right up until the time that the coronavirus [pandemic occurred]. In fact, [infectious disease expert] Ian Lipkin was doing those experiments over there when [COVID-19] exploded. And I'll tell you exactly what happened because it's very suspicious."
sun tzu, 1 hour agoI am genuinely impressed with the American spirit, that everything covid related has happened at double the speed in the USA compared to the UK - you were the last to get this thing and seem to be the first to open back up (well done!). I guess because you guys have lived with guns your whole lives, you are braver than the average UK citizen who literally have been the most obedient and most scared bunch I have experienced. People literally throw themselves off the pavements into the road to avoid someone walking the other way, they would rather be
ToWo, 1 hour agoEpidemic indeed
- TX 659 Covid-19 deaths https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
- TX over 11,000 seasonal flu deaths two years ago https://www.texmed.org/Template.aspx?id=48701
I don't remember Fauci ever apologizing his remarks concerning - you don't need to worry, you don't need masks - masks are bad, the virus can't be spread easily, his models predicting millions would die in the US.
May 11, 2020 | caucus99percent.com
Newsweek reveals that as recently as last year, the US funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 'gain of function' research on bat coronaviruses.
The source of that funding? The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease, headed by.....(drumroll please)....Dr Anthony Fauci, lead medical expert for America's Covid-19 task force.
May 11, 2020 | angrybearblog.com
likbez , May 11, 2020 1:53 am
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I would be wary of Fauci.
It looks like it was Fauci who financed Wuhan lab continuation of very dangerous "gain of function" experiments started at UNC Dr. Baric lab.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/27/anthony-fauci-should-explain-37-million-wuhan-labo/
President Donald Trump's legal counsel, Rudy Giuliani, in a recent chat on "The Cats Roundtable" on New York AM 970 radio, suggested a good U.S. attorney general move about now would be to investigate key members of the past Barack Obama administration on the Wuhan, China, laboratory, to see what they knew and when they knew it.
And then he mentioned Dr. Anthony Fauci specifically.
And then he accused the prior Team Obama of sending $3.7 million to the lab in 2014 -- at a time when that same Team Obama had banned the funding of any lab that was involved in virus experimentation.
And then he named Fauci as the guy who gave the money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Ouch. Politically speaking, the perception of one of this administration's loudest voices on the coronavirus front -- the one calling for shutdowns and shut-ins and contact tracing-slash-government-tracking of American citizens -- well, it doesn't look good to have him tied financially to Wuhan.
Giuliani, as RedState noted, said this:
"Back in 2014, the Obama administration prohibited the U.S. from giving money to any laboratory, including in the U.S., that was fooling around with these viruses. Prohibited. Despite that, Dr. Fauci gave $3.7 million to the Wuhan laboratory.
And then even after the State Department issued reports about how unsafe that laboratory was, and how suspicious they were in the way they were developing a virus that could be transmitted to humans, we never pulled that money."
Giuliani said if he were attorney general, he'd open an investigation.
May 10, 2020 | dissidentvoice.org
Moreover single virion is so small that it will be affected by Brownian movement which make it impossible for it to travel in a given direction at all -- it will he chaotic movement. So this physics professor looks like very weak in physics
Interview with Professor Denis Rancourt
by Kim Petersen / May 8th, 2020
A health professional told me back in March that face masks were ineffective but that respirators (the N95) were. Because of the source, I thought there must be validity to this. However, it seemed counterintuitive. I reasoned that there would be differentials between using any type of mask versus no mask because no mask usage would allow aerosols to penetrate unabated, whereas a mask should capture much of the aerosol and reduce risk of spread to others and presumably should also function to mitigate breathing in viral-laden droplets. Because of the greater density of respirator material, the prophylactic would be reasoned to be greater.However, what I had not considered was how extremely small the virion was in relation to the porosity of the material in the masks and respirators. I also had not looked at the scientific literature on the subject until now.
Denis Rancourt, an eminent physics professor , former anarchist, and author, examined the scientific evidence for using face masks and respirators as preventative of contracting respiratory influenza-like disease, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by minuscule droplets.What I have noticed is that Rancourt is wedded to the evidence, and he is unafraid to make known his conclusion even though it goes against the mainstream consensus. His article, " Masks Don't Work: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 social policy ," is Rancourt at his iconoclastic finest. He concludes,
No RCT [randomized control trial] study with verified outcome shows a benefit for HCW [health care workers] or community members in households to wearing a mask or respirator. There is no such study. There are no exceptions.
The virions are super tiny, tinier than the pores in the respirators. Rancourt writes,
if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application.
Rancourt's article is fascinating and anyone curious abut the efficacy of masks should read it.
***** Kim Petersen : Recently, American vice-president Mike Pence was criticized for walking around the Mayo clinic accompanied by mask-wearing staff although he did not wear a mask. He excused his refusal to don a mask based on the frequent testing he undergoes, so presumably he would not be a danger to others. Given what the science reveals on mask wearing, how do you view the reaction to Pence's refusal to wear a mask?
Denis Rancourt : In my article " Masks Don't Work: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 social policy ", I show that there have been many randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and meta-analyses of RCTs, which were designed to detect any benefit from wearing a mask, in terms of reducing the risk of being infected by a viral respiratory disease.
In the many studies, in which the known bias of self-reporting is eliminated by using laboratory-confirmed infection detection, no statistically meaningful advantage is ever found, in either health-care or community settings, with either surgical masks or N95 respirators. No study, and there have been many, has been able to establish any advantage of wearing a mask or respirator, with viral respiratory diseases.
This means that, even in controlled professional health-care settings, any benefit is too small to be detected by science, and that other factors must be overwhelmingly more important.
Regarding all viral respiratory diseases -- which are both known to be transmitted by small aerosol particles (i.e., "droplets" of less than a few microns in diameter) and known to be highly infectious in terms of the so-called minimum-infective-dose (i.e., the number of virions that will likely be sufficient to cause illness or detectable infection) -- in plain language, this means "masks don't work". (A "virion" is a single virus unit, the RNA and its shell.)
Therefore, any societal debate about the virtue or responsibility of wearing a mask to reduce the risk of infection, whether it involves Pence or anyone else, is occurring in a science vacuum. It is a political and psychological debate, not one that is science-based.
Likewise, no unbiased RCT has ever shown any advantage for a confirmed-infected person to be less likely to transmit a viral-respiratory-disease infection to susceptible (i.e., not immune) persons if the infected person wears a mask.
Studies that show that cough and sneeze droplets are physically intercepted by masks are irrelevant in this regard, because they do not represent the reality of actual person to person transmission, nor do they measure actual transmission.
In my article, which has been read more than 70 K times on Research Gate, I also review what is known about the physics and biology of transmission of this class of diseases. I argue that, on this basis, one should not expect masks to work. Likewise, if masks cannot stop inward transmission (into the lung), then, by the same physics, they cannot stop outward transmission.
However, it is important to distinguish a RCT that evaluates risk of actual person-to-person transmission of confirmed infection, as one class of study, and the necessarily simplistic arguments based on hypothetical scenarios using physics and biology. And the "masks intercept droplets" studies are useless in the relevant context. Masks intended to stop a surgeon's spit from impacting an incision area are a completely different question.
Coming back to Pence, a face mask is a powerful psychological symbol of submission (to both the invisible disease and any State policy directives), such that it is understandable that many political leaders would not want to wear masks in front of media cameras.
KP : You write that there has been no randomized controlled trial that shows a benefit for anyone (doctors, nurses, regular folks, et al.) wearing a mask or respirator. The reason proffered is because the mask/respirator material is too porous for virion particles. The N95 respirator blocks at least 95 percent of very small (0.3 μm) test particles, but the virion particles (from 0.06 μm to 0.14 μm) (See Na Zhu et al., " A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China ," 20 February 2020, NEJM, 382:727-733.) can pass through.
I am trying to visualize this on a larger scale. If I kick a soccer ball at a chain-link fence, all soccer balls will be blocked. But if I throw a handful of sand at the chain-link fence, almost all grains of sand will pass through. Is this an apt analogy for the mask and the virion?
DR : The many RCTs show no statistically valid benefit from wearing a mask or N95 respirator, and show no differences in RCT comparisons between surgical masks and N95 respirators, regarding risk of infection from this class of diseases. That is a separate question from any hypothetical mechanistic explanation as to why any benefit from wearing a mask would be so small as to be undetected. In other words, that masks don't work must be discerned from the question of why masks don't work. The former is a scientific outcome of the studies, irrespective of what we believe or infer about the latter.
Nonetheless, regarding a discussion of the hypothetical mechanisms, one can say the following things:
- There can be little doubt that the overwhelmingly dominant path of infection is via small aerosol particles of less than approximately 2 microns in diameter.
- Such a particle can contain many and up to hundreds of virions.
- One virion is approximately 0.1 microns in size.
- Such small aerosol particles stay suspended in air in-effect indefinitely, as part of the fluid air; as would virions themselves, subject to chemical adsorption and aggregation.
- Regarding the masks and respirators, pore-size of the filtering material is not the relevant bottleneck in practice.
- The seal to the face is never perfect, and the mask is regularly moved by pressure differences, by the user for reasons of discomfort, and by normal facial and operational movements.
- Inhaled and exhaled air will flow mostly through the paths of least resistance (or fluid impedance): through the breaks in the seal, through the sides of a mask, and though the larger pores or stretches or micro-tears in the filtering material.
- The minimum-infective-dose is expected to be less that a single small aerosol particle, and can be as little as a single undamaged virion.
Thus, it is not difficult to conclude that mask and respirators should not work, even leaving out the complex particle-mask-material interactions that can occur, mask aging and wear considerations, and so on.
KP : You cite possible harm from dictates requiring the wearing of masks. Could you elaborate?
DR : My answer is in two parts. First, there is potential medical harm to the individual from the wearing of a mask. Second, there is societal and psychological harm from being forced to wear a mask in public.
In one large RCT in Japanese health centers, health-care workers who wore respirators suffered significantly more headaches than the cohort of workers who did not wear respirators. This was a statistically significant outcome. Furthermore, professional health-care workers self-report significant discomfort from wearing respirators, and therefore often adjust them or remove them, contrary to protocol. If healthcare workers, in circumstances in which there is no scientific basis for wearing respirators, suffer headaches and discomfort, then this can only negatively impact the intended health care.
More broadly, the potential health hazards of population-scale extended personal mask use have not been studied. Potential health hazards include such factors as:
- constriction of breathing itself, including both flow restriction, and recycling of CO2 and vapour-laden breath
- breathing-in the particles, fibres and chemicals from the mask-material itself, both in a new mask and for aging, used, washed, and sun-bleached masks
- retention of particulates and adsorbed substances in proximity to the face, which would normally be expelled in the exhaled breath
- collection, concentration and retention of particulates and adsorbed substances from the environment onto the mask, in proximity to the face
- reactions of particulates and adsorbed substances on the mask, including shedding of virions or virion-carrying nano-particles from larger mask-captured droplets
- and so on
Such factors have not been studied, yet population-scale policies of extended mask-wearing are being implemented.
From a societal perspective, what are the consequences of government coercion ("education" and enforcement) to wear masks in public, given that there is no scientific basis for any benefit from mask wearing, in terms of reducing the risk of being infected by a viral respiratory disease?
How is this not an arbitrary application of power, which directly infringes or denies personal freedom? What are the long-term consequences of habituation to arbitrarily applied violations of personal freedom?
The recent scientific study of Hickey and Davidsen (2019) (" Self-organization and time-stability of social hierarchies ") in my view provides a theoretical foundation that such habituation to arbitrarily applied power is part of a progressive degradation towards an extreme totalitarian state, depending on the degree of authoritarianism (whether contestation is effective) and the degree of violence (magnitude of the penalty for disobeying).
We should rollback arbitrary State powers. I would say: If an individual evaluates or believes that a mask constitutes health or privacy or religious protection in public, then the individual should be free to wear a mask, but how can forcing all individuals to wear masks be justified, beyond government pronouncements? Security cannot be based on arbitrarily forced behaviour of everyone. This is the classic recipe for totalitarian rule.
In fact, the present case of pandemic mask laws or policies is a case where a health pretext and stoked fear are being exploited by governments, in a globalized corporate environment in which there are billions to be made from vaccines and other treatments, and where legal liabilities for the treatments have largely been socialized. Regular vaccination, for diseases that have always been kept in check by the human immune system, are a hard method of creating dependence on the State, involving seasonal violations of bodily integrity, which could become forced.
KP : You point a finger at governments, monopoly media, and institutional propagandists for deciding "to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests." Which institutional propagandists do you refer to?
DR : The main institutional propagandists here are the arms and legs of the pharma-medical complex, from the WHO and CDC, through the medical schools, to every hospital, research laboratory, clinic, community health center, and doctor's office. The medical establishment is a major network of the high-priests that structure and control modern society. In their book, "health" is a dependence on the health system, not healthy living conditions, contrary to all the science regarding the determinants of public health. I mean, Pharma and medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the Western world, after heart disease and cancer, and that is not a "pandemic"? It is not even on the radar, except in specialized conferences and journals.
As another example of institutional and professional alignment with top-down directives and recommendations, John Ioannidis showed in 2005 (" Why Most Published Research Findings Are False ") that most of the scientific research that finds marginal benefits for expensive and dangerous treatments is incorrect.
In the case of the on-going COVID-19 saga, several top researchers and experts have broken rank, and these professionals have been profiled in a series of three articles in Off-Guardian , for example. Generally, these contrarians who insist on practicing science, have been avoided by the mainstream media, and have had to be featured in the alternative media, and on YouTube. John Ioannidis and Knut Wittkowski are just two of the names that stand out for me.
KP : Given that the conclusion of your review of meta-analyses is accurate, why would so many health care professionals, who presumably have been trained in evidence-based practice, disregard the absence of evidence for the efficacy of masks and respirators?
DR : It is a myth that medicine is an evidence-based practice. This myth is propagated by the medical establishment. It has never been the case in the history of medicine, and it is not the case today. In practice, medicine is whatever the profession can get away with and profit from.
From a political perspective, the public-relations statement about being "science-based" is a propagandist mantra applied in training those initiated into the profession. It is designed to deliver legitimacy in the public's mind and among other professions, and means that the profession will attack, destroy or capture competitors that are not in the profession, such as homeopaths, nutritionists, acupuncturists, chiropractors, psychologists, councillors, life coaches, etc.
There is a large litigation record of this reality. If you litigate against or attempt to discipline an MD or a medical specialist for a practice that is not science based, then you find that the in-court or administrative-tribunal argument will never be about the science itself or whether a scientific basis exists. None of the actual medical researchers will be called as expert witnesses, and they would be seen as irrelevant and thus inadmissible. Instead, a complete defence will be based on whether or not the hired expert witnesses for the defendant will be of the opinion that the impugned practice is within the spectrum of actual practice in the field, irrespective of whether there is a scientific basis. In order to win, you will need to prove that the impugned act or practice is egregiously contrary to what is generally done or officially recommended by a certifying body; again, irrespective of any scientific-basis consideration. "Scientific basis" is given lip service, nothing more.
For example, when a drug or procedure is convincingly and unavoidably proven to be unacceptably harmful after being put into practice, and this harm is reported in the mainstream media, and there is organized public outcry, then the practice is changed but no practitioners are ever found to have been at fault. This means that the practitioners are not responsible to evaluate and establish a scientific basis for their prescriptions and treatments. They are only bound to do what one does in the profession. If mechanical ventilators are the treatment for critical COVID-19 patients, then we kill those patients with those mechanical ventilators until the proverbial shit hits the fan (" New study finds nearly all coronavirus patients put on ventilators died ," The Hill , 23 April 2020).
The history, to this day, of the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is exhibit-one regarding the extent to which medical practice is distinct from any scientific basis. The said Manual is the pseudo-scientific organizational pretext for a large pharmaceutical project of managing the mind, which relies on heavy-handed "precautionary" prescriptions, made by any army of medical practitioners. For example, see Gary Greenberg (2013) ( The Book of WOE: The DSM and the Unmaking of Psychiatry ).
I could go on for days. Coming back to the masks, medical commentators, like politicians, will say whatever seems advantageous at the time, in terms of propping up their own legitimacy and popularity, and in terms of avoiding public-perception liability. If it is politically risky to recommend masks, then masks are out, and there is no evidence that they work. If it becomes risky to go against masks, then masks are in, and we must all do our part to protect those who are most vulnerable, etc.
KP : Since there is evidence that viruses flourish during dry periods, might the use of a humidifier be a recommended preventative measure during seasons when humidity is low?
DR : There is conclusive evidence that viral respiratory diseases and flu-like diseases predominantly propagate via small aerosol particles, which are stabilized in dry air, and that this is why these diseases are seasonal in mid-latitude regions. The reproduction number, R 0 , can vary four-fold during a season, in accordance with absolute humidity of the atmosphere. This oft-confirmed discovery was initiated with the landmark work of Shaman et al . (2010) .
Closed buildings such as hospitals, residences for the elderly, and day-care centers are proven to have large densities of virion-laden aerosol particles suspended in the air, in the dry season. In addition, air-flow has been shown to play a role regarding transmission, in restaurants and airplanes.
Therefore, it is not unreasonable to examine the use of controlled absolute humidity, and air-flow management in critical facilities housing many persons at risk of severe complications if infected. A high humidity would in-principle draw-out virtually all the aerosol particles, by condensation, particle growth, and gravitational removal. In principle, what was an environment of high-density of aerosol particles, would become an environment of low-density of aerosol particles. Only a true RCT comparative study, with laboratory-confirmed infection determinations, could demonstrate whether such measures can be effective.
Kim Petersen is a former co-editor of the Dissident Voice newsletter. He can be reached at: [email protected] . Twitter: @kimpetersen . Read other articles by Kim .This article was posted on Friday, May 8th, 2020 at 9:56am and is filed under COVID-19 (coronavirus) , Interview , Science/Technology .
May 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
PJB , May 6 2020 20:25 utc | 100
Montreal @67...The evidence of Dr Fauci's involvement and Gates Foundation vaccine program problems in India and Kenya - both of which are well documented.
I also expressed concern about the patent for bio-monitoring and Bill Gates call for digital passports.
May 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Russ , May 8 2020 19:24 utc | 11
Literally every human concern - every social, psychological, spiritual concern; every political, constitutional, rule-of-law concern; every concern of human and civil rights, civil liberties, human freedom; every concern of children's healthy development; and literally every health concern except for this flu - have been eradicated from the propaganda and evidently from the minds of the police-statists.Their minds have been scoured clean of literally every thought except for a threadbare fanatical obsession with quantity of life (an obsession they pursue in defiance of all the evidence; their lockdowns don't work even according to their own terms, let alone according to the terms of ecology, biodiversity, sound epidemiology; even their arch-ideologue and high priest Neil Ferguson was caught admitting that he regards his entire agenda as nothing but a Big Lie), and a grossly reductive notion of "opening the economy", which they deploy in order to slander the rapidly increasing number of people who are questioning, criticizing, and rejecting the lockdowns for a vast diversity of reasons I only briefly surveyed above.
The fact that the police-statists are utterly unwilling to meet any of these concerns except for the economic, and are willing to meet that one only in the most reductive, fraudulent, slanderous way which expresses total contempt for the vast numbers of people being economically destroyed beyond any hope of recovery (which is a major purpose and goal of the terror campaign and lockdowns), says it all about the total bankruptcy of their position. As in every other case, police-state authoritarianism has nothing but brute thug force, including in its ideas.
May 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Ken Garoo , May 10 2020 1:21 utc | 44
As an aside, here are the batting averages of Neil 'lockdown for you but not me' Ferguson.https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/09/who-controls-the-british-government-response-to-covid-19/
2001 His predictions on the Foot & Mouth Epidemic led to the needless 'voluntary' slaughter of 12 million animals. This in turn led to countless bankruptcies and suicides amongst small farmers. It also helped accelarate the concentration of farming into the hands of Big Farmer.
2002 He predicted 'up to' 50,000 would die from aka variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease aka 'Margaret Thatcher disease'. The total from 1990 to 2017 was actually 178.
2005 He predicted 'up to' 200 million people worldwide would be killed by H5N1 aka 'bird flu'. By 2006, WHO had reported 78 definite fatalities out of 147 eported cases.
2009 He predicted 'up to' 65,000 deaths in the UK from H1N1 aka 'swine flu'. In reality, 457 died from it in the UK.
2020 He predicted 'up to' 500,000 deaths in the UK (and 2.2 million in the US) from Covid-19, used by the UK government to justify the lockdown. UK to date ~31,000 (probably ~85% exhibiting multiple comorbidities and dying 'with' Covid-19 rather than 'from' it). Still it is early days, and ignoring the new death rate has been decreasing since ~ April 15, give it another 4 years and we will be there!
So his score is 0 out of 5. Truly impressive.
The underlying question remains, why did the UK government take his advice when he has been proven grossly wrong time after time?
May 10, 2020 | theconservativetreehouse.com
Perhaps one way to help see through the professional obfuscation, and identify just exactly how political Dr. Fauci is, would be to: compare and contrast Dr. Fauci under President Obama in September 2009 after 3,000 to 4,000 H1N1 deaths in the USA -vs- Dr. Fauci under President Trump in March 2020 after 200 to 300 COVID-19 deaths. WATCH:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/hsXEgJqR_vY?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent
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Now, to better absorb the information . According to the CDC final estimate of 2009 U.S. H1N1 cases ( published in 2011 ): from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately 60.8 million U.S. cases, 274,304 U.S. hospitalizations, and 12,469 U.S. deaths occurred due to H1N1. That's the empirical data.
The concept of "flattening" the virus curve; the presumptive reason for social distancing and shutting down the U.S. economy; is based on a theory to extend the spread of COVID-19 to a lesser incident rate over a longer duration, thereby lessening the burden on the U.S. healthcare system. Hence, 'flatten' the spike in infections.
Put another way: "Flattening" means the same number of people eventually contract the virus, only they do so over a longer period of time, and the healthcare system can treat everyone because the numbers do not rise to level where the system is overloaded. In theory that seems to make sense.
However, no-one is asking: what is the current stress level on the healthcare system right now? Where are we in that capacity? and what is normal capacity level during a high-level flu outbreak? and Where are we when compared against that baseline?
♦ Remember in 2009 there were over 61 million cases of H1N1, more than 274,000 hospitalizations and 12,469 additional deaths specifically attributed to that strain of flu virus in the U.S. [ DATA HERE ]The premise to extend the virus duration in an effort to lower the infection rate and spread the virus over a longer period of time needs to measured against: (a) where the healthcare system is at any given moment; and (b) under traditional high-flu seasons where are we during those historic events.
♦ STRESS LEVEL – The healthcare 'system' per se, is expending an awful lot of time on mitigation efforts. As Dr. Birx noted: the current negative test rate for coronavirus among those showing symptoms who are tested is 94 to 98 percent. That means of all the people taking coronavirus tests, 94/98 out of 100 are symptomatic (they are sick) but they are not infected with coronavirus. They are normal flu cases.
Our healthcare "system" is expending an incredible amount of resources on a mitigation effort. According to Dr. Birx and the current U.S. test results, 94 to 98 percent of those mitigation efforts are not engaging with coronavirus. They are dealing with regular flu (perhaps a strong flu).
If you extract the mitigation effort from the overall effort, the current stress level on the healthcare system doesn't seem to be overwhelming. What is stressing the system is a coronavirus mitigation effort with a rate of 94 to 98 percent testing negative.
♦ Dr. Fauci's theory is self-fulfilling .
If the viral spread never exceeds the capacity of the healthcare system to deal with it, he can claim success. Look, our flattened curve worked.
However, when contrast against flu outbreaks, no-one knows what the COVID-19 capacity threshold is within the healthcare system. There's no way to disprove Fauci's theory.
Given the nature of the baseline for overall U.S. sanitation and hygiene, which is significantly higher than Italy, S-Korea and China; and given the higher standards of food safety (U.S. is the world leader); again significantly higher than Italy, S-Korea and China; and given the nature of the U.S. healthcare system (more capacity per person); is it really a fair comparison to overlay a COVID-19 outbreak, without also overlaying a traditional flu outbreak?
Any theory that cannot be scientifically tested; and is simultaneously self-fulfilling; is, by its nature, a false theory.
This is not to say that Dr. Anthony Fauci is intentionally misleading anyone; however, it is absolutely true that no-one will be able to quantify if trillions of dollars of economic wealth lost; and trillions more in economic activity lost; and trillions more in deficit spending; and that might all be done just to follow the fantastical whims of a doctor who is directing the mitigation of an ordinary flu-virus/season, and appears to be quite full of his own sense of self-importance.
You decide .
I think I already have.
May 09, 2020 | respectfulinsolence.com
Remdesivir: Gilead wins with unimpressive results announced by press release On Wednesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci announced positive results for the antiviral drug remdesivir treating COVID-19. They were unimpressive and, suspiciously, announced by press release rather than scientific paper. It's all very fishy, but one thing's for sure. Gilead Sciences will make boatloads of money.I've been writing a lot about the unjustified and premature hype over hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug with mild immunosuppressive activity that is also used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune diseases and how the drug probably doesn't work against COVID-19, despite its being hyped by President Trump and his sycophants, toadies, and lackeys on Fox News, Dr. Mehmet Oz , Dr. Phil , Dr. Didier Raoult , and a bevy of irresponsible fame seeking doctors who have no idea how to do a proper clinical study.
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There are, however, other drugs being hyped out there, drugs that might actually have a better chance of turning out to be effective treatments for COVID-19. Chief among these is remdesivir, the experimental antiviral drug being tested by Gilead Sciences.
Remdesivir is an adenosine (a nucleotide) analog that inhibits viral RNA polymerases. It is incorporated into RNA made by the virus, causing the premature termination of the RNA molecule, thus interfering with viral replication. The drug was originally developed to treat Ebola and Marburg but was ultimately found to be ineffective against these viruses . Because it inhibits the replication of a number of RNA viruses, it was only natural that it would be considered as a possible treatment for COVID-19, and Gilead has been relentlessly promoting it as such as the company has been working to carry out clinical trials.
What prompted me to write about remdesivir were headlines like Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead's remdesivir will set a new 'standard of care' for coronavirus treatment that started popping up on Wednesday afternoon:
White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday that data from a coronavirus drug trial testing Gilead Sciences' antiviral drug remdesivir showed "quite good news" and sets a new standard of care for Covid-19 patients.
Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a "clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover."
Fauci said the median time of recovery for patients taking the drug was 11 days, compared with 15 days in the placebo group. He said the mortality benefit of remdesivir "has not yet reached statistical significance."
The results suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group, according to a statement from the National Institutes of Health released later Wednesday.
"This will be the standard of care," Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added. "When you know a drug works, you have to let people in the placebo group know so they can take it."
My skeptical antennae started twitching immediately, because on the same day a study from China was published in The Lancet that was far less impressive. In fact, it was a negative trial. What also got my skeptical antennae all aflutter twitching away was how the results of the remdesivir trial were announced. Normally, when a study is announced to the press, it's upon publication of the paper, and the press release is issued either the same day or the evening before publication. As of last night, as I wrote this, however, the actual paper reporting the results of the clinical trial had not yet been published. As I perused Twitter on Wednesday, I found even more reasons for skepticism.
So, before I get to the study touted by Dr. Fauci, let's review some history.
Remdesivir: The early days versus COVID-19 (like, you know, three weeks ago)The first data published on remdesivir was a single-arm uncontrolled trial that somehow got published three weeks ago in The New England Journal of Medicine . This was peak COVID-19 publishing, when an uncontrolled case series of patients with severe COVID-19 treated with remdesivir under compassionate was published in a super high impact journal like NEJM and made headlines as a result. Be that as it may, the case series examined 61 patients with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection who had an oxygen saturation of 94% or less while they were breathing room air or who were receiving oxygen support. They received a 10-day course of remdesivir, consisting of 200 mg given intravenously on day 1, followed by 100 mg daily for the remaining 9 days of treatment. (Remdesivir is an intravenous drug.) The authors reported clinical improvement in 68% of evaluable patients:
Of the 61 patients who received at least one dose of remdesivir, data from 8 could not be analyzed (including 7 patients with no post-treatment data and 1 with a dosing error). Of the 53 patients whose data were analyzed, 22 were in the United States, 22 in Europe or Canada, and 9 in Japan. At baseline, 30 patients (57%) were receiving mechanical ventilation and 4 (8%) were receiving extracorporeal membrane oxygenation. During a median follow-up of 18 days, 36 patients (68%) had an improvement in oxygen-support class, including 17 of 30 patients (57%) receiving mechanical ventilation who were extubated. A total of 25 patients (47%) were discharged, and 7 patients (13%) died; mortality was 18% (6 of 34) among patients receiving invasive ventilation and 5% (1 of 19) among those not receiving invasive ventilation.
The case series also did not collect viral load data to confirm potential antiviral activity in humans or any association between declines in viral load and clinical improvement. Basically, when you get right down to it, this study was not really much better than Didier Raoult's crappy study of his hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combination, but that didn't stop the authors from concluding that comparisons with contemporaneous cohorts "suggest that remdesivir may have clinical benefit in patients with severe Covid-19." In reality, like Raoult's trials, this trial said nothing about the efficacy of remdesivir against COVID-19 other than that the drug could be given to COVID-19 patients with a reasonable safety profile.
Less than week later, as related by Derek Lowe , came news that two clinical trials of remdesivir in China, one for severe disease and one for moderate disease had been suspended. (They still are.) Lowe noted that both trials had the notice: "The epidemic of COVID-19 has been controlled well at present, no eligible patients can be recruited." The apparent explanation was "the stringent inclusion criteria for the trials – apparently patients had to have no previous therapy with any other experimental agent to enroll, and that eliminates a lot of people." Around the same time, Adam Feuerstein and Matthew Herper published a story in STAT, Early peek at data on Gilead coronavirus drug suggests patients are responding to treatment :
The University of Chicago Medicine recruited 125 people with Covid-19 into Gilead's two Phase 3 clinical trials. Of those people, 113 had severe disease. All the patients have been treated with daily infusions of remdesivir.
"The best news is that most of our patients have already been discharged, which is great. We've only had two patients perish," said Kathleen Mullane, the University of Chicago infectious disease specialist overseeing the remdesivir studies for the hospital.
Her comments were made this week during a video discussion about the trial results with other University of Chicago faculty members. The discussion was recorded and STAT obtained a copy of the video.
Derek Lowe discussed this story in depth, and I largely agree with him that the leak of the video to STAT was a serious breach of clinical trial ethics and protocol. (I'm not alone in suspecting that it was almost certainly intentional to jack up Gilead's stock price, a result that was achieved.) Lowe also noted:
But now that it's out there, let's talk about what's in the leak. Gilead stock jumped like a spawning salmon in after-market trading on this, and one of the reasons was that that 113 of the 125 patients were classed as having "severe disease". People ran with the idea that these must have been people on ventilators who were walking out of the hospital, but that is not the case. As AndyBiotech pointed out on Twitter, all you had to do was read the trial's exclusion criteria : patients were not even admitted into the trial if they were on mechanical ventilation. Some will have moved on to ventilation during the trial, but we don't know how many (the trial protocol has these in a separate group).
Note also that this trial is open-label; both doctors and patients know who is getting what, and note the really key point: there is no control arm. This is one of the trials mentioned in this post on small-molecule therapies as being the most likely to read out first, but it's always been clear that the tradeoff for that speed is rigor. The observational paper that was published on remdesivir in the NEJM had no controls either, of course, and that made it hard to interpret. Scratch that, it made it impossible to interpret. It will likely be the same with this trial – the comparison is between a five-day course of remdesivir and a ten-day course, and the primary endpoint is the odds ratio for improvement between the two groups.
Again, these data, such as they are, are no more useful than Didier Raoult's data on hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat COVID-19, but this brings us to the Chinese trial published in The Lancet on Wednesday.
The Chinese randomized clinical trialThe Chinese trial published two days ago is the first randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial of remdesivir to treat COVID-19, but it was also one of the studies halted. Eligible patients were adults admitted to the hospital with laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 whose symptoms had lasted less than 12 days before enrollment and who had an oxygen saturation on room air of 94% or less or a ratio of arterial oxygen partial pressure to fractional inspired oxygen of 300 mm Hg or less (another measure of hypoxia), and radiologically confirmed pneumonia.
Patients were randomly assigned in a 2:1 ratio to intravenous remdesivir at the same dose as the NIH trial touted by Dr. Fauci or the same volume of placebo infusions for 10 days and were permitted concomitant use of lopinavir–ritonavir, interferons, and corticosteroids. The primary endpoint was time to clinical improvement up to day 28, defined at the time from randomization to the point of a decline of two levels on a six-point ordinal scale of clinical status (from 1=discharged to 6=death) or discharged alive from hospital, whichever came first. An intention-to-treat analysis was carried out.
Basically, this was a negative trial. Of the 255 patients screened, 237 met the eligibility criteria, and 158 were assigned to the remdesivir group, with 79 assigned to placebo control. Unfortunately, remdesivir treatment was not associated with a shorter time to clinical improvement, and mortality was not different between the two groups. Subgroup analysis looking for hypotheses found that there was a trend towards a shorter duration of symptoms (not statistically significant) in patients treated with remdesivir who had had symptoms for less than ten days. Most disappointingly, there was no detectable difference in viral load between the remdesivir groups and the placebo controls. Again, basically this was a negative study with only the barest hint that remdesivir might -- I repeat, might -- work if administered earlier in the course of COVID-19. That's some pretty thin gruel.
Which brings us to the NIH trial of remdesivir touted by Anthony Fauci.
The NIH press release for its remdesivir trial.The results of the NIH remdesivir trial can, unfortunately, only be gleaned from the press release and news stories so far:
For the first time, a major study suggests that an experimental drug works against the new coronavirus, and U.S. government officials said Wednesday that they would work to make it available to appropriate patients as quickly as possible.
In a study of 1,063 patients sick enough to be hospitalized, Gilead Sciences's remdesivir shortened the time to recovery by 31% -- 11 days on average versus 15 days for those just given usual care, officials said. The drug also might be reducing deaths, although that's not certain from the partial results revealed so far.
"What it has proven is that a drug can block this virus," the National Institutes of Health's Dr. Anthony Fauci said.
"This will be the standard of care," and any other potential treatments will now have to be tested against or in combination with remdesivir, he said.
Here is the press release , posted to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases website:
Hospitalized patients with advanced COVID-19 and lung involvement who received remdesivir recovered faster than similar patients who received placebo, according to a preliminary data analysis from a randomized, controlled trial involving 1063 patients, which began on February 21. The trial (known as the Adaptive COVID-19 Treatment Trial, or ACTT), sponsored by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, is the first clinical trial launched in the United States to evaluate an experimental treatment for COVID-19.
An independent data and safety monitoring board (DSMB) overseeing the trial met on April 27 to review data and shared their interim analysis with the study team. Based upon their review of the data, they noted that remdesivir was better than placebo from the perspective of the primary endpoint, time to recovery, a metric often used in influenza trials. Recovery in this study was defined as being well enough for hospital discharge or returning to normal activity level.
Preliminary results indicate that patients who received remdesivir had a 31% faster time to recovery than those who received placebo (p<0.001). Specifically, the median time to recovery was 11 days for patients treated with remdesivir compared with 15 days for those who received placebo. Results also suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8.0% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group (p=0.059).
More detailed information about the trial results, including more comprehensive data, will be available in a forthcoming report. As part of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's commitment to expediting the development and availability of potential COVID-19 treatments, the agency has been engaged in sustained and ongoing discussions with Gilead Sciences regarding making remdesivir available to patients as quickly as possible, as appropriate. The trial closed to new enrollments on April 19. NIAID will also provide an update on the plans for the ACTT trial moving forward. This trial was an adaptive trial designed to incorporate additional investigative treatments.
As you can see, the difference in mortality was not statistically significantly different, although that could just be because of inadequate numbers. It's also very important to note the part about the adaptive trial design of this trial, which puts Dr. Fauci's comment about how remdesivir will become the "standard of care" going forward into the proper context. In this particular trial , multiple different drugs can be compared to placebo or standard of care. The idea is that, if a signal of efficacy is found with one drug, that drug becomes "standard of care" and the trial is adapted to study how adding other experimental drugs compares to the "standard of care." So what Dr. Fauci meant was that, based on the finding, going forward remdesivir will become the "standard of care" arm for the trial and the experimental arm will become remdesivir plus another experimental therapeutic. However, given that the FDA is on the verge of issuing an emergency use authorization for remdesivir to treat COVID-19, it looks as though remdesivir will become standard-of-care in general soon.
But back to the results. Derek Lowe observed:
it's worth noting that had there been "clear and substantial evidence of a treatment difference" during the trial that the DSMB was to have halted the study at that point. We can infer that nothing rose to that level, then: we have a difference, but not substantial enough to have ended the trial prematurely.
It's also worth noting some things posted on Twitter about the trial. For instance, Waller Gellad noted:
It's very odd that the primary endpoint was changed:
This long Twitter thread explains:
I'll summarize, so that you don't have to scroll through a Twitter thread if you don't want to. As James Heathers and Waller Gellad noted, the original primary outcome of the trial when it was registered on March 20. The original primary endpoint of the trial was an 8-point severity scale (death, on ventilator, hospitalized with oxygen, all the way down to discharged with no limits on activity) but was changed to time to recovery. There's still a similar scale for the secondary endpoints, but no numbers for that were reported. (Any bets on whether the results are negative?) This change was apparently made on or around April 16.
Gellad also notes:
It does look very fishy to me. Endpoint or outcome switching, particularly late in a clinical trial is a huge red flag. Don't get me wrong. There can be legitimate scientific reasons to switch primary endpoints of a trial. as James Heathers puts it:
There are also other reasons to question this trial, including how no confidence intervals were reported, that not even an abstract was published, just a press release with, as Heathers put it, "two results in four lines":
Basically, if you have two "good" results and twenty "bad" or uninterpretable results, what do you do? What are you going to tell people? The two "good" results, of course!
Gary Schwitzer has a nice summary of the negative reactions to the trial and how it was announced.
The bottom lineI remain very suspicious that the NIH study was announced the same day that a negative study out of China of remdesivir was published. It just seems too convenient. Maybe I'm being overly suspicious. Maybe I'm too suspicious. Maybe I'm falling prey to conspiracy mongering. However, in the Trump era, when the Trump administration has politicized previously (mostly) apolitical government agencies as never before, it's hard not to wonder.
Adding to my suspicion is the fact that the study was reported in a press release, rather than being published, which makes me wonder if the press release was written to counter the negative study from China that would certainly have tanked Gilead's stock prices. Yes, I know that the press release reported that this decis, apparently the announcement was decided upon after April 27 meeting of the data and safety monitoring board overseeing this trial, but the outcome switching so late in the trial makes me very suspicious. Yes, the explanation, which should have been in the press release, along with an acknowledgment that the primary outcome/endpoint had been changed, but wasn't is not unreasonable:
Then there was this news report in which Fauci claimed that concerns about leaks fueled the announcement:
He expressed concern that leaks of partial information would lead to confusion. Since the White House was not planning a daily virus briefing, Fauci said he was invited to release the news at a news conference with Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards(D). "It was purely driven by ethical concerns," Fauci told Reuters in a telephone interview.
"I would love to wait to present it at a scientific meeting, but it's just not in the cards when you have a situation where the ethical concern about getting the drug to people on placebo dominates the conversation."
An independent data safety and monitoring board, which had looked at the preliminary results of the NIAID trial, determined it had met its primary goal of reducing hospital stays.
On Tuesday evening, that information was conveyed in a conference call to scientists studying the drug globally.
"There are literally dozens and dozens of investigators around the world," Fauci said. "People were starting to leak it." But he did not give details of where the unreported data was being shared.
I smell bullshit here. What probably really happened is that he was under enormous pressure to release the results. It was also unwise to discuss the results with so many scientists until the manuscript reporting the results of the trial had at least been submitted for publication. I agree with the scientists who had "expected it [the trial data] to be presented simultaneously in a detailed news release, a briefing at a medical meeting or in a scientific journal, allowing researchers to review the data." I also agree with Dr. Eric Topol, referring to the Chinese RCT and this one:
"That's the only thing I'll hang my hat on, and that was negative," said Dr. Eric Topol, director and founder of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California.
He was unimpressed by remdesivir's modest benefit. "It was expected to be a whopping effect," Topol added. "It clearly does not have that."
Indeed, given that the pre-test probability of remdesivir having a significant effect was low, meaning that this trial is probably just noise:
Indeed, I'm not only unimpressed with the modest benefit reported, I question whether there really was any benefit at all, particularly in light of the Chinese trial, which found zero difference in viral load in the remdesivir group.
The whole thing looks damned fishy, and we can't judge the study until it's actually published. Meanwhile, whatever the true reasons for releasing the study results this way, mission accomplished. The negative effect of the Chinese study on Gilead's stock price was successfully countered and remdesivir becomes a de facto standard of care for patients hospitalized with COVID-19. Worse, no further trials of remdesivir versus placebo will be possible, because it's been declared that remdesivir "works" against COVID-19 and is the new standard of care! As Mark Hoofnagle put it in a great Twitter thread, that echoes my thoughts:
It's worse than that. If remdesivir is now the "standard of care" for hospitalized COVID-19 patients, it now becomes unethical to randomize them to a placebo group testing ANY new drug for COVID-19. Trials will now have to compare remdesivir alone to remdesivir plus experimental drug. We'll probably never know now for sure if remdesivir is truly effective against COVID-19.
But Gilead will make billions and billions of dollars.
RelatedThe FDA's emergency use authorization of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19: Dangerous politics, not scienceYesterday, the FDA issued emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroqine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19. Politics, not science, is why.
By Orac Orac is the nom de blog of a humble surgeon/scientist who has an ego just big enough to delude himself that someone, somewhere might actually give a rodent's posterior about his copious verbal meanderings, but just barely small enough to admit to himself that few probably will. That surgeon is otherwise known as David Gorski ...
- April 1, 2020 In "Bad science"
Drs. Vladimir Zelenko and Stephen Smith: Abandoning evidence-based medicine to promote unproven drugs for COVID-19- Drs. Vladimir Zelenko and Stephen Smith have been claiming that hydroxychloroquine is a miracle drug based on anecdotes. Their shoddy, poorly reported case series are not evidence of efficacy.
- April 3, 2020 In "Bad science"
Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19: Science-based medicine has no chance against Donald Trump, Peter Navarro, and Dr. Oz- President Trump's COVID-19 advisors include Dr. Oz, Rudy Giuliani, and Peter Navarro, the latter an economist who thinks he can science better than Anthony Fauci. Can science- and evidence-based medicine prevail with respect to hydroxychloroquine and coronavirus?
- April 6, 2020 In "Bad science"
- Tags Anthony Fauci , clinical trials , Donald Trump , featured , Gilead , Gilead Sciences , NIAID , NIH , remdesivir
John Kane says: May 2, 2020 at 8:52 am
In long twitter exchange mainly led by James Heathers, has anyone noticed that there are a series of tweets by Didier Raoult ?Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 2, 2020 at 7:05 pmOne tweet reads:
In a quick search of the web I found the following two:Could Anthony Fauci explain why the investigators of the NIAID remdesivir trial did change the primary outcome during the course of the project (16th April)? Removing "death" from primary outcome is a surprising decision.
WHAT ARE SIDE EFFECTS OF REMDESIVIR (RDV)?
In the Ebola trial, researchers noted side effects of remdesivir (RDV) that included:
- Increased liver enzyme levels that may indicate possible liver damage
- Researchers documented similar increases in liver enzymes in three U.S. COVID-19 patients
Typical antiviral drug side effects include:
Nausea
VomitingFound at: https://www.rxlist.com/consumer_remdesivir_rdv/drugs-condition.htm
Side effects
The most common adverse effects in studies of remdesivir for COVID-19 include respiratory failure and blood biomarkers of organ impairment, including low albumin, low potassium, low count of red blood cells, low count of platelets that help with clotting, and yellow discoloration of the skin. Other reported side effects include gastrointestinal distress, elevated transaminase levels in the blood (liver enzymes), and infusion site reactions.
Other possible side effects of remdesivir include:
Infusion‐related reactions. Infusion‐related reactions have been seen during a remdesivir infusion or around the time remdesivir was given.[8] Signs and symptoms of infusion‐related reactions may include: low blood pressure, nausea, vomiting, sweating, and shivering.
Increases in levels of liver enzymes, seen in abnormal liver blood tests. Increases in levels of liver enzymes have been seen in people who have received remdesivir, which may be a sign of inflammation or damage to cells in the liver.
Found at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remdesivir
So, if it does shorten duration, is it worth potential liver damage, respiratory failure and organ impairment? In other words is the cure potentially as bad as the disease.
And, as Orac and many commenters have made more than clear, one more example of Trump's government, ignoring science, and jumping to conclusions.
And once more I suggest reading the following:
Jeanne Lenzer and Shannon Brownlee (April 28, 2020). Pandemic Science Out of Control. Issues in Science and Technology. Available at: https://issues.org/pandemic-science-out-of-control/
ADDENDUMChris Preston says: May 2, 2020 at 6:52 pmI found the following: "Particular laboratory features have also been associated with worse outcomes (table 2). These include: Elevated liver enzymes"
So, one of the side-effects has been associated with worse outcomes. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Remdesivir.
For yet another drug that was supposed to be a game changer, I am unimpressed by its results. The whole mechanism is wrong. A drug with this mechanism would need to be almost a prophylactic for it to be hugely effective.Tim says: May 3, 2020 at 11:33 amJoel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 4, 2020 at 1:11 pmOne thing they discovered is that the proteins involved have zinc atoms incorporated into their structure. This won't surprise any biochemists, as zinc-containing proteins are common. But there's been a steady flow of fringe treatments for the disease -- including some involving chloroquine derivatives -- in which zinc was a key component. We'll have to see whether that changes now that it's clear that zinc is needed to make copies of the virus (assuming that fact registers at all with the people prone to promoting fringe therapies).
What is that saying about zinc? I've always heard that zinc was a good thing to have a high intracellular level of it to protect against viruses besides also being needed to make NO.
@ RealityReality says: May 4, 2020 at 2:22 pmSo: "Fauci just dropped down a level or two in my estimation of his commitment to rationality."
Let's look at the "Reality": "America needs a federal government that assertively promotes and helps to coordinate that, not one in which experts like Tony Fauci and Deborah Birx tiptoe around a president's tender ego."
I wouldn't want to be in Fauchi's shoes. If he openly criticizes Trump, he is out and staying in allows him to have some effect. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. So, he has to balance his "committment to rationality" to trying to modify/reduce the insanity of Trump. If he resigned or was fired, could he have more of an influence? Maybe, maybe not. I would not want to be in his shoes! ! ! Personally, I would probably resign and try to get our media to listen to me. Just standing next to Trump would turn my stomach.
So, maybe you should live up to your "name" and evaluate "reality" not an idealistic world.
So you wouldn't say what Fauci said and would quit, eh, Joel?A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 4, 2020 at 4:31 pm
I wouldn't say what Fauci said about "standard of care" which is basically his endorsement of this.
I believe Orac wouldn't make that statement endorsing Remdesivir as the "standard of care".
I don't know of any self-respecting scientist who would make such a statement no matter what the pressure.
If I was pressured by DJT I would object but maybe agree to not make any statement pro or con about the subject – so as to keep my position and influence but if someone asked me to say something I thought was not true I would not do it and refuse.
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Fauci didn't seem to have any problem cautioning against unwarranted optimism for CQ/HCQ even while DJT was championing the stuff. What is different about this?
.That is the Reality of this Fauci statement.
@ RealityReality says: May 5, 2020 at 10:58 amYou write: "Fauci didn't seem to have any problem cautioning against unwarranted optimism for CQ/HCQ even while DJT was championing the stuff. What is different about this?"
Yep; but the only studies promoting CQ/HCQ was a fraudulent one in France and an in vitro study.
What about Remdesivir? First it is a nucleic acid analogue designed to directly disrupt replication of the viral genome. Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine were not even remotely designed to target viruses, though they have a moderate dampening effect on immune reactions, so they work for autoimmune diseases (e.g., lupus, rheumatoid arthritis); but, as I wrote in a previous exchange, the immune response in an autoimmune disease compared to a cytokine storm is like comparing 20 mile per hour winds to a category 5 hurricane, 160 mph winds. In addition, chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine have a large number of mild side-effects and some really serious major ones.
So, what did Fauci say about chloroquine? ""We've got to be careful that we don't make that majestic leap to assume that this is a knockout drug. We still need to do the kinds of studies that definitely prove whether any intervention is truly safe and effective," Fauci, who is also a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said during an interview on "Fox & Friends. . . "We don't operate on how you feel, we operate on what evidence and data is," Fauci said, adding that it was "not a very robust study" or "overwhelmingly strong."" (Concha, 2020 Apr 3)
Now, what did he say about Remdesivir: "Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a "clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover." Fauci said the median time of recovery for patients taking the drug was 11 days, compared with 15 days in the placebo group. He said the mortality benefit of remdesivir "has not yet reached statistical significance."
The results suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group, according to a statement from the National Institutes of Health released later Wednesday. "This will be the standard of care," Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added. "When you know a drug works, you have to let people in the placebo group know so they can take it." "What it has proven is a drug can block this virus," he said. (Lovelace, 2020 Apr 29)
"The data shows that remdesivir has a clear-cut, significant, positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery," Fauci said at the White House on Wednesday. The data he referred to is from a large study of more than 1,000 patients from multiple sites around the world. Patients either received the drug, called remdesivir, or a placebo.
Dr. Michael Saag, associate dean for global health at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, said the results seemed promising. Antiviral drugs such as remdesivir tend to work earlier in the course of an illness, so "the thing that I think is important in this study is the patients had advanced disease," said Saag, who is not involved with any remdesivir trials. (NBC News (2020 Apr 29)
Hospitalized patients with advanced COVID-19 and lung involvement who received remdesivir recovered faster than similar patients who received placebo, according to a preliminary data analysis from a randomized, controlled trial involving 1063 patients, which began on February 21. The trial (known as the Adaptive COVID-19 Treatment Trial, or ACTT), sponsored by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, is the first clinical trial launched in the United States to evaluate an experimental treatment for COVID-19.
An independent data and safety monitoring board (DSMB) overseeing the trial met on April 27 to review data and shared their interim analysis with the study team. Based upon their review of the data, they noted that remdesivir was better than placebo from the perspective of the primary endpoint, time to recovery, a metric often used in influenza trials [my emphasis]. Recovery in this study was defined as being well enough for hospital discharge or returning to normal activity level. . .
Results also suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8.0% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group (p=0.059). the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (2020 Apr 29).
So, first I'd bet you don't understand how nucleic acid analogues work?
Second, though I tend not to rely on one study, this one was fairly large and the shortening of time to recovery was clinically significant, "defined as being well enough for hospital discharge or returning to normal activity level." And Dr. Michael Saag: "Antiviral drugs such as remdesivir tend to work earlier in the course of an illness, so "the thing that I think is important in this study is the patients had advanced disease,"Standard of Care is more a legal definition than a clinical one. Basically it reduces risk of malpractice lawsuits.
While I probably would not have called it "standard of care", instead clearly stating that based on the recent trial, it is currently the best we have to offer or something to that effect.
So, Fauci didn't call it a cure, didn't claim it reduced mortality, though indications it did, and based on over 1,000 patients, found it reduced hospitalization and return to normal life by a clinically significant margin, the standard used for flu studies. Again, I would have been more cautious in my working; but your rank attack on a man who knows more about infectious diseases that you, I, and many others, a man who has dedicated his life to preventing and dealing with them is just plain sickening. Your black and white view of Fauci is how antivaccinationists and other adherers to unscience see the world. And an MPH probably means a couple of lower level epidemiology courses. So, the old saying: A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, coupled with a personality that prefers a dichotomous world is very very problematic.
Only time and further studies will tell if Remdesivir really does shorten recovery time and, perhaps, also lowers mortality. Right now, we have nothing else and I wouldn't jump on something because of this; but the over 1,000 patient study isn't nothing.
Just to be clear, Orac's critique is valid; but, as he says, by this time one becomes perhaps overly skeptical given Trump's insanity. How cautious should Fauci have been? People are becoming desperate. The risks from Remdesivir are extremely low, so currently, either use it or continue as is.
If there were significant risks and the one study had been one a much smaller group, the scales would be different. And, though Orac is right they changed the outcome points, as mentioned, shortening of recovery time is a criterion used for treatment of flu, so, though not, perhaps, the best end-point, it is certainly not the same as some studies using endpoints such as lowered cholesterol without looking at deaths. They did look at deaths and though not significant, in the right direction. By the way, do you even understand significance levels? Though only one study, p=0.059 isn't far from p=0.05.
References:
- Concha, Joe (2020 Apr 3). Fauci warns there's no 'strong' evidence anti-malaria drug works on coronavirus
- Lovelace, Berkeley (2020 Apr 29). Remdesivir coronavirus drug trial: Dr. Fauci says it will set new standard of care. CNBC
- National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (2020 Apr 29). NIH Clinical Trial Shows Remdesivir Accelerates Recovery from Advanced COVID-19
- NBC News (2020 Apr 29). Remdesivir shows promising results for coronavirus, Fauci says
Disappointingly, the lock down seems to have made a number of people irrational. Just a quick post to expound on my Fauci post for those who see the world as binary – ie: black or white. These people think you either support Fauci 100% or 0% and a single criticism of any Fauci statement means 0% support of Fauci. I do not happen to worship at the altar of Fauci or any scientist and recognize all are subject to errors – including myself. I view the world in a more nuanced manner than those with the black/white delusion. I find I can disagree with some things a person says or stands for and agree with some other things they say or do.My criticism of Fauci in regard to his remdesivir endorsement does not mean I have 0% support for Fauci it means that with that statement and some others my positive view of him is now ~80% but not 100% and I will have to check up on what he is endorsing to make sure that I agree with it just like I do with any other scientist/person.
BTW – If some were to check my Disqus account history (Reality022) you would find posts strongly defending Fauci against the Loony Libertarians who seem to think he is the debil.
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Now to a second point:There appears to be a group of Fauci apologists who, to excuse Fauci's statement, say it is due to 'pressure from Trump/the administration'.
I do not subscribe to this excuse and think it is a horrible thing to say for 2 reasons:1) There is absolutely no evidence that this statement was made under pressure. That idea is totally invented in the minds of the Fauci apologists in their attempt to exonerate Fauci.
2) It is a horrible thing to say about Fauci. I take him at his word. If he said it he meant it. The excuse actually means that Fauci's word is so untrustworthy that he can be pressured into being dishonest about his scientific opinions and only the apologists can tell us when he is lying or actually relating his honest view. The apologists are basically saying Fauci is dishonest.
I have much more respect for the man and believe he is honest but in this case merely wrong.
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That is all I'm going to say about this subject as some people are going off the rails with their binary view of the world. (snicker)A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 5, 2020 at 11:06 am
@ RealityAnd you continue to miss the point that "Standard of Care" is mainly a legal term. Are you that dense? It is you who stated your opinion of Fauci sank, so your binary view of the world. Try reading my other comments, closely, maybe you will learn something; but I doubt it. "Reality", lacks reality testing. Reply
Preston says: May 5, 2020 at 8:18 pm
I tend to agree. I am of the opinion that Fauci made a mistake here. The evidence for Remdesiver is nowhere near good enough for it to become the standard of care. But then I am not the one having to make these decisions under difficult circumstances. I don't pretend to understand why Fauci might have made the comment, so don't see a lot of point in speculating about it.Reality says: May 5, 2020 at 9:28 pmOn the other hand, watching the White House performance from afar, I can see the administration is dysfunctional and is run by a narcissistic bully, who will publicly turn on anyone who disagrees with them. I also see there are people within and around the White House who are happy to tell whatever lies they think Trump wants to hear, either through fear or hope for advancement. I understand why people would add 2 and 2 and come up with 5.
Chris Preston said, "I am of the opinion that Fauci made a mistake here. The evidence for Remdesiver is nowhere near good enough for it to become the standard of care."Denice Walter says: May 5, 2020 at 10:05 pmI believe that is the main thrust of this Orac article – that the evidence for Remdesiver efficacy is sorely lacking.
Quoting Orac's article above: "In reality, like Raoult's trials, this trial said nothing about the efficacy of remdesivir against COVID-19 other than that the drug could be given to COVID-19 patients with a reasonable safety profile."
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I agree with your 2nd paragraph and think that Fauci is not one of those administration toadies and is being honest and has merely made a mistake perhaps brought about through grasping-at-straws desperation as described in a current SBM article.I, as well, do not know why Fauci made the statement but to me it is very disrespectful of the man to use as an excuse that he is dishonest enough to lie like a toady when pressured by Trump.
I think we are essentially in agreement about this matter.
Have fun.re dysfunctional administration.. narcissistic bully et alJoel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 5, 2020 at 10:55 pmIt seems that the aforementioned will now " wind down" the Covid task force ( The Hill reports) but Drs Fauci and Birx will still be involved in some capacity.
AS though the battle is already won. Hah! CA and the NY area are reporting lower numbers of deaths and hospital admissions BUT whilst
other areas are increasing theirs.Maybe the Orange One imagines that if we discuss Covid less, people will think it's gone, go back to work, buy stuff and the economy will flourish. Ignore it and it'll go away. Wishful thinking as usual.
@ Chris PrestonTim says: May 5, 2020 at 10:56 pmApparently you lack understanding of English. As I explained even grandfathered in medical treatments with no hard scientific evidence are considered the standard of care, that is, if a doctor uses them he/she lessens risk of lawsuits. Standard of care doesn't mean a high level of scientific validity.
I guess I am wasting my time. Think of it this way, if allowed for compassionate use advised by ones doctor, then doctor may not be protected against lawsuits. Unfortunately, as something I read a long time ago, even in Colonial times Americans would rather sue than eat breakfast. Just one more sickness of American exceptionalism, so maybe, just maybe, all Fauci was doing was trying to reduce this risk.
No shit???Aarno Syvänen says: May 6, 2020 at 12:34 amhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/KzRhcjOG1es?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent
At least, he had the googles on; Wouldn't want him to get fibres in his eyes.,
Not to mention that CDC closed the lab. So CDC is not part of great vaccine conspiracy, after all. Huge news, I would say. One could mention, too, that Johnson & Johnson get COVID vaccine contract. So Dorit Reiss' plots are not very effective, ater all. ReplyNatalie White says: May 6, 2020 at 10:30 amAarno, you made me curious about how much $$$$ and how many companies. A list of the Convid19, oops, I mean Covid19 cash! https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/07/here-are-all-the-companies-working-on-covid-19-vac.aspxNatalie White says: May 9, 2020 at 10:20 am@Aarno- Sometimes the CDC gets it right and sometimes, well .. sometimes you can't truss it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/cdcs-failed-coronavirus-tests-were-tainted-with-coronavirus-feds-confirm/Natalie White says: May 9, 2020 at 11:47 amAarno writes, "Not to mention that CDC closed the lab." Yes, sometimes they get it right. Then, they fail miserably like this https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/cdc-lab-contamination-delayed-coronavirus-testing-67438Natalie White says: May 6, 2020 at 9:40 amConfidence meter less than zero.
Hmm . Problems with the Wuhan Lab and those nasty bats back in 2018. Just another coincidence, I suppose. Weird. So many coincidences. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/ ReplyJoel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 6, 2020 at 2:18 pm@ Natalie WhiteYou write: Hmm . Problems with the Wuhan Lab and those nasty bats back in 2018. Just another coincidence, I suppose. Weird. So many coincidences."
From a recent article in the Atlantic:
scientists have also identified about 500 other coronaviruses among China's many bat species. "There will be many more -- I think it's safe to say tens of thousands," says Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, who has led that work. Laboratory experiments show that some of these new viruses could potentially infect humans. SARS-CoV-2 likely came from a bat, too.
It seems unlikely that a random bat virus should somehow jump into a susceptible human. But when you consider millions of people, in regular contact with millions of bats, which carry tens of thousands of new viruses, vanishingly improbable events become probable ones. In 2015, Daszak's team found that 3 percent of people from four Chinese villages that are close to bat caves had antibodies that indicated a previous encounter with SARS-like coronaviruses. "Bats fly out every night over their houses.
Some of them shelter from rain in caves, or collect guano for fertilizer," Daszak says. "If you extrapolate up to the rural population, across the region where the bats that carry these viruses live, you're talking 1 [million] to 7 million people a year exposed." Most of these infections likely go nowhere. It takes just one to trigger an epidemic.
Ed Yong (2020 Apr 29). Why the Coronavirus Is So Confusing. Available at: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/pandemic-confusing-uncertainty/610819/
Note. he links to peer-reviewed journal articles. So, as the second paragraph makes clear, antibodies to bat coronaviruses exist in the population, etc. Add this to the sequencing of the genome that shows just how close it is to the 2003 SARS corona virus and to bat coronaviruses and, as usual, your moronic "coincidences" just lacks any validity.
Note also that his article links to many other good ones.
As I've written before, nature is quite capable of creating really nasty microbes.
Natalie White says: May 6, 2020 at 10:17 am
Oh this guy needs a dishonorable mention, Harvard traitor, Charles Leiber. "has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD)." Our tax dollars hard at work for this POS.Dude is still collecting a paycheck. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related Reply
Aarno Syvänen says: May 6, 2020 at 11:00 am
This is our guy:Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 6, 2020 at 4:48 pm
Charles M. Lieber
Semiconductor nanowires: A platform for nanoscience and nanotechnology
MRS Bulletin
Volume 36, Issue 12 (Laser micro- and nanofabrication of biomaterials)December 2011 , pp. 1052-1063
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1557/mrs.2011.26
So COVID 19 was not involved. One should indeed not serve two masters, DOD and a Chinese university Reply@ Natalie WhiteYou write: "Hmm . Problems with the Wuhan Lab and those nasty bats back in 2018. Just another coincidence, I suppose. Weird. So many coincidences."
From a recent article by Ed Yong (2020 Apr 29). "Why the Coronavirus Is So Confusing: A guide to making sense of a problem that is now too big for any one person to fully comprehend." The Atlantic. Available at: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/pandemic-confusing-uncertainty/610819/
Note that he links to a number of excellent articles, including the two that the following is based on:
"scientists have also identified about 500 other coronaviruses among China's many bat species. "There will be many more -- I think it's safe to say tens of thousands," says Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, who has led that work. Laboratory experiments show that some of these new viruses could potentially infect humans. SARS-CoV-2 likely came from a bat, too.
It seems unlikely that a random bat virus should somehow jump into a susceptible human. But when you consider millions of people, in regular contact with millions of bats, which carry tens of thousands of new viruses, vanishingly improbable events become probable ones. In 2015, Daszak's team found that 3 percent of people from four Chinese villages that are close to bat caves had antibodies that indicated a previous encounter with SARS-like coronaviruses. "Bats fly out every night over their houses. Some of them shelter from rain in caves, or collect guano for fertilizer," Daszak says. "If you extrapolate up to the rural population, across the region where the bats that carry these viruses live, you're talking 1 [million] to 7 million people a year exposed." Most of these infections likely go nowhere. It takes just one to trigger an epidemic."
So, 3 percent of people had antibodies to bat corona viruses. As the above explains, it is quite probable that the current virus came from someone infected by a bat. Now, since sequencing of the current SARS-Cov-2 has found its genome quite close to the 2003 SARS virus and to several bat coronavirus genomes, goes against your sick need to blame the Chinese. A coincidence is not even close to any type of proof, except in the mind of a moron like you looking to place blame. And there is a great book on "coincidences": David J. Hand (2014). "The Improbability Principle: Why Coincidences, Miracles, and Rare Events Happen Every Day." Basically, what someone might think is a rare coincidence isn't.
And, the major blame for what is happening in the U.S. is a combination of Trump and overall American unappreciation for Public Health and, thus, pandemic preparedness. When it comes to cutting funding, first to go.
I realize that real research, logic, etc. have NO effect on moron's like you; but, hopefully, others monitoring this exchange are open-minded.
And as Aarno pointed out, you attacked someone who had nothing to do with COVID. He worked with the Wuhan Institute of Technology; yep, in Wuhan and that's it. It's a large city dimwit. More importantly, he has been charged, not found guilty. I realize that the old adage innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to anyone you chose to attack. You just don't know when to stop. YOU ARE DESPICABLE! Reply
May 09, 2020 | www.rt.com
Pulled from YouTube, censored in internet searches, and denounced by every single mainstream media outlet, what kind of information could make everyone so mad about 'Plandemic'? We watched it to find out. A 23-minute teaser clip of the documentary went viral on Wednesday evening, notching up tens of millions of views across multiple platforms. However, a media outcry soon followed, with mainstream media outlets deploying their 'fact-checkers' to debunk its claims, and Facebook and YouTube removing the video, citing their new rules on Covid-19 "misinformation."
Yet censorship is also a sure-fire way to generate interest in the very thing you're trying to censor – and multiple copies and versions of 'Plandemic' began to appear like mushrooms. So who's behind it and what's in there?
A doctor with quite a reputationDr. Judy Mikovits is the central figure of 'Plandemic,' which basically claims that "billionaire patent owners" are stoking the spread of the coronavirus, all in the name of forcing "experimental poisons" on the population in the form of vaccines.
The claims are quite bold, but it doesn't help that Mikovits herself is far from an unbiased source on the subject. She's been active in anti-vaccine and fringe circles for years, even while insisting she's not "anti-vax" herself.
Once an active cancer researcher and (mainstream) virologist, Mikovits was disgraced in 2011 for publishing what others in the scientific community called false research into Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The dramatic events that followed – a search and arrest in her California home – are used in 'Plandemic' to establish her alleged conflict with Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and President Donald Trump's coronavirus adviser.
Also on rt.com 'I never said it was a hoax!' Trump unloads on media in fiery rant, says coronavirus briefings 'not worth the time and effort'Mikovits claims Fauci personally "paid off" law enforcement officials to arrest her and detain her without trial. She was indeed arrested in November 2011, but for allegedly stealing lab materials from the Nevada laboratory she worked at before her dismissal (which Mikovits claims were "planted" in her house). Criminal charges brought against Mikovits were later dismissed – but this has been tied to the legal troubles of her former employer, Harvey Whittemore.
Evidence-free claims galoreOf course, the central part of the video – something being discussed in every 'Plandemic' piece and review – is made up of an array of Covid-19-related claims that Mikovits makes.
These range from claims that wearing face masks "activates your own virus" (there's no evidence of that) to the assertion that the devastating coronavirus outbreak in Northern Italy can be linked to the uptake in flu vaccination the year before (a claim which appears to be based on a misleading interpretation of one tangentially-related study, not any fresh research).
Mikovits' central argument – that an eventual vaccine for coronavirus will kill "millions of people" – is unprovable, and her assertion that Fauci will personally profit from any vaccine is outright false. Mikovits accuses Fauci of profiteering from royalties on an AIDS treatment he patented in the 1990s, but Fauci only placed his name on the patent because regulations required him to, and "donated the entire amount to charity."
However, amid the half-baked theories, Mikovits touches on some truth. The federal government does in fact pay hospitals a set amount of money to treat coronavirus patients, about $13,000. This amount rises to $39,000 if the patient is placed on a ventilator. Mikovits insists that ventilation is the wrong treatment for coronavirus patients, and is only carried out to boost revenues – something the ER doctors would disagree with.
Also on rt.com Is Covid-19 our new religion, and the face mask its cross?It doesn't help that many of the claims are disjointed, and rather than working towards its main goal of demonstrating a sinister plan by Fauci and vaccine evangelist Bill Gates to poison the masses, the documentary instead just lumps together anything critical of the mainstream consensus on the virus to paint Fauci in a bad light.
For instance, it's been widely reported that Fauci's organization did give millions of dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to finance its study of coronaviruses, after the federal government banned such research in the US. However, no smoking gun linking Fauci to the current outbreak is provided.
Boost by censorshipYet, when information like this is declared verboten, that's what people will think. There's a popular quote by 'Game of Thrones' author George RR Martin: "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."
When right-wing polemicist Alex Jones and his conspiracy-laden news site Infowars were essentially banned from the internet in 2018, the Infowars app shot to the top of both Apple and Google's app stores.
The phenomenon is known as the 'Streisand effect,' named for a 2003 lawsuit in which singer Barbara Streisand sued a photographer who shot an aerial snap of her California mansion for invasion of privacy. The lawsuit backfired, and led to hundreds of thousands of people downloading the picture. Before the case, it had only been viewed six times.
Likewise, the documentary's producers will spin the furor over 'Plandemic' to their advantage. Already, their website urges viewers to "bypass the gatekeepers of free speech," and slams the "overlords of big tech" for silencing them.
Forbidden knowledge is tempting, and by wiping 'Plandemic' from the internet, Silicon Valley will only increase its notoriety.
May 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Ike , May 8 2020 20:32 utc | 18
I enjoy the MOA articles and look forward to reading them daily. Judy Mikovits is interviewed here. She appears to me a sincere and honest individual. I think more investigation is needed before dismissing her as an "anti-vaxxer"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNjeT1G6iGTh/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ca08d0ed-03bf-4482-97f3-f540d3f5666dThe connection of Dr Fauci to the Wuhan lab is also well established. He moved viral "gain of function" research to Wuhan after it was closed down in the USA by the Obama Regime.
There is also little doubt that the virus was created in a lab as Chris martenson outlines here. His whole series of podcasts on the epidemic is extremely interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=928&v=uZUJhKUbd0k&feature=emb_title
May 07, 2020 | sputniknews.com
A Yale University epidemiologist is calling into question the legality of US President Donald Trump and his administration's response to the COVID-19 novel coronavirus, appearing to suggest that federal government officials could be tried under international law. Hours before Trump took to Twitter to announce the Coronavirus Task Force would "continue on indefinitely," Gregg Gonsalves , an assistant professor of epidemiology of microbial diseases at the Yale School of Public Health, posed a series of questions to fellow netizens on the social media site regarding Washington's handling of COVID-19.
How many people will die this summer, before Election Day? What proportion of the deaths will be among African-Americans, Latinos, other people of color? This is getting awfully close to genocide by default. What else do you call mass death by public policy? #COVID19 #coronavirus
-- Gregg Gonsalves (@gregggonsalves) May 6, 2020As of this article's publication, the US has tested over 7.5 million individuals for the novel coronavirus, according to Johns Hopkins University . Data provided by the university details that the country has confirmed 1.2 million cases of the novel coronavirus and suffered over 71,400 associated deaths. At least 189,791 recoveries from COVID-19 have been observed in the US.
Gonsalves' emphasis on the COVID-19 deaths of Black Americans, Latinos and other people of color in the US stems from the fact that there has been a disproportionate amount of novel coronavirus deaths in the Black community."Social conditions, structural racism, and other factors elevate risk for COVID-19 diagnoses and deaths in black communities," wrote a team of epidemiologists and clinicians in a new study analyzing novel coronavirus cases and death on a county level, as reported by CNN. The scientists found that counties where Black residents made up more than 13% of the population - about the percentage of the total US population that is Black - suffered 52% of COVID-19 diagnoses and 58% of associated deaths in the country.
"Structural factors including health care access, density of households, unemployment, pervasive discrimination and others drive these disparities, not intrinsic characteristics of black communities or individual-level factors," noted the researchers.It's worth noting that the findings are preliminary, as the study still needs to go through the peer review process.
"So, what does it mean to let thousands die by negligence, omission, failure to act, in a legal sense under international law?" asked Gonsalves in another tweet Wednesday morning .
The conduct of Trump and his administration has been called into question over the past several weeks after reports revealed that the president and federal officials were briefed on the novel coronavirus, and its potential threat to the US, several weeks prior to the declaration of a national emergency on March 13.
Recently, Dr. Rick Bright, the former director of the US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, said that he alerted Department of Health and Human Services officials in January about the US' unpreparedness for a possible COVID-19 outbreak. Bright said that he was met with "indifference which then developed into hostility" from the administration and, in his opinion, was the reason for his demotion within the agency.While Trump is pushing for more Americans to return to their workplaces and restart the US economy - which some believe could lead to a second wave of infections - Gonsalves wondered if there could be some kind of intervention or charges brought against the federal government on an international level.
"And I am being serious here: what is happening in the US is purposeful, considered negligence, omission, failure to act by our leaders. Can they be held responsible under international law?" he asked .
May 07, 2020 | techcrunch.com
3 hours ago (Edited) Just sayen
"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!" - Bill Gates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s
"men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary against whom they can organize themselves and act together"
"new enemies have to be identified, new strategies imagined, and new weapons devised"
"in its present form, democracy is no longer well-suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today's problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time"
"In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fill the bill"
"The real enemy then is humanity itself."
Excerpts from "The First Global Revolution" – I would add, a wonderful marxist propaganda for the NWO. Ms No, 4 hours ago Listen to this medical chick that saved millions from the EU and their swine flu vaccine that caused brain damage. They tried to have her "psychiatrized" which means locked away as crazy and probably tortured for the rest of her miserable life, being banged with blood draw needles, forced meds and put in a straight jacket. Close to Assange treatment.
https://youtu.be/Hlk_Zfz7xhU harleyjohn45, 4 hours ago She may have Fauci by the short hairs. He is deeply embedded in the national health care oligarchy. Not my favorite person, had a lot to do with destroying the US economy along with MSM. DaiRR, 5 hours ago The big pharma crime syndicate, embedded in government health agencies with operatives like Fauci, is a mega-billion dollar enterprise and those dollars buy off thousands of people like Fauci. People smarter than me need to figure out how to stop this once and forever.
Meanwhile, if you don't realize Google and Facebook and all their offshoots are your enemy, you are the enemy too. wdg, 5 hours ago (Edited) Dr. Judy Mikovits is just the tip of the iceberg as more and more doctors and reserach scientists are speaking out and exposing the BIG PHARMA CRIMINAL SYNDICATE that includes the WHO, CDC, NIH and many other so-called health care and research agencies around the world, and Drs. Fauci and Birx not to mention the leadership of most western government who have been bought off by this Criminal Syndicate which has murdered and debilitated millions of people. These are crimes against humanity carried out at the highest levels of governments, corporations and governmental agencies. Watch the powerful video interview of Robert Kennedy Jr. below which provides a window into the evil world we now live in. Big Pharma and the medical profession which sold their souls for money are both finished because the trust is gone. Class action suits will bankrupt the lot.
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLi6ZrFp6NIH vQ&feature=emb_logo Sl4yer, 5 hours ago (Edited) Few papers of this "crazy" woman....
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21178474
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21576403
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22991430
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21940862
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7853532
...and the list goes on, and on and on.
Your Wikipedia and all your stupid marxist propaganda is fake, yep! 5 hours ago Why is the video doctored right at the end to make Fauci say a damning sentence. You can see his head jerk to new positions as they piece together bits of video.
That fake ending just negated all credibility for the video.
-FAKE- 5 hours ago (Edited) No doctoring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNXGAxGJgQI
Take a look at the original video where he told that (the part of interest is at the very beginning starting at 2:50 and is ending at 3:40) and you shall see that the meaning (when the parts where he brags about his past and future were removed) of what he actually have told in that part was not altered in any way - the meaning is exactly the same. Due diligence in these times is actually quite easy in cases like these, hence you should probably do the same prior to posting 4 hours ago (Edited) I have zero tolerance for fake news. It's not up to me. If I spot it, I call it. You just confirmed I was right. It's up to them to not fake video of a person they are disparaging. There is no way for him to comment about that doctored section at the end.
Edit: I thank you for doing that research but it shouldn't be up to you either. This is not the time for fake anything.
May 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
One thing that should be abundantly clear by now is that any thoughts, opinions, or speculation which challenges the official narratives regarding COVID-19 will be promptly silenced by Silicon Valley, under the guise of protecting the public - which apparently can't be trusted to absorb information and form their own opinions.
The most recent example of censored wrongthink is a new documentary, Plandemic, which features former chronic fatigue researcher Judy Milkovits, who claims that Dr. Anthony Fauci - head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) - is spewing 'absolute propaganda' about COVID-19.
In the video, Mikovits claimed Fauci perpetrated propaganda that led to the deaths of millions of people in the past. She also raised questions about how COVID-19 deaths are being counted.
However, one of her biggest beefs against Fauci dates to the battles for credit over the discovery of HIV in the early 1980s.
In the video, Mikovits claimed she isolated HIV from the saliva and blood of patients in France but that Fauci was involved in delaying research so a friend could take credit, which allowed the HIV virus to spread. These claims are not proven. They were also disseminated in April by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Kennedy alleged on the Children’s Health Defense website (where he is chairman) -Heavy
Google's YouTube is currently playing whack-a-mole with a 25 minute promotional vignette for the documentary which has gone viral - deleting new versions seemingly as fast as they pop up. The original version had over 1.6 million views when it was censored.
Facebook, however, hasn't deleted it (yet):
As noted by Heavy's Jessica McBride, Mikovits has a new book out, Plague of Corrpution, which currently has 4.5 / 5 stars on Amazon.
Mikovits, who has a new book out, was featured in the first vignette released to promote the movie. Her controversial career in the scientific community has been punctuated by an arrest, lawsuit, retracted research study, allegations against Fauci and clashes with the founders of the Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease, which is located in Reno, Nevada. -Heavy
Mikovits has claimed that she published a "blockbuster" study which revealed that "the common use of animal and human fetal tissues were unleashing devastating plagues of chronic diseases," and that the "minions of Big Pharma" have been waging war against her to destroy her "good name, career and personal life."
In the Plandemic video, Mikovits makes other claims, including that patents are a conflict of interest, and she criticizes the concept of mass vaccines. “They will kill millions, as they already have with their vaccines,” she said, stressing she was not anti-vaccine. She claims there is a financial incentive in COVID-19 strategies to not use natural remedies in order to push people to use vaccines.
Mikovits co-wrote a book called Plague: One Scientist’s Intrepid Search for the Truth about Human Retroviruses and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), Autism, and Other Diseases and claims 30% of vaccines are contaminated with retroviruses. The book contains a forward from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The book was No. 2 on the Amazon bestseller list on May 6. -Heavy
Plandemic has received both praise and criticism, however Google thinks it's best if you leave the thinking to them.
Read more about Mikovits here.
xxx 54 minutes ago
xxx 55 minutes agoIf this movie goes away, this site has an original on this page: https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/plandemic-movie-trailer-released-featuring-whistleblower-dr-judy-mikovits-exposing-dr-faucis-alleged-criminal-behavior/
Indigo Child, 1 hour ago (Edited)it's still available here - **** youtube
SubjectivObject, 2 hours agoFauci works for Bill Gates, and will push a vaccine & medications that he will profit from. I don't like him. However, the end of this woman's video takes Dr. Fauci's 2017 remarks out of context. Fauci wasn't saying he knew this Plandemic would occur. He was merely saying that every 4-8 years there is a new type of virus or flu strain in the world. (which is fearmongering in a way -- with every new administration he needs to push for more funding by saying there will likely be an outbreak)
artytom, 2 hours agocounterpoint from the DeathStar
Montana Cowboy, 3 hours agoxxx 3 hours agoWhen Youtube or other 2A suppressors bans a video, you will find that video right here:
misgivings 4 hours agoFauci is a scumbag:
"Dr. Fauci, it turns out, has been a key cheerleader for this "death science" research for decades. He has also been credibly accused by Dr. Judy Mikovitz and other virologists of stealing intellectual property and stifling whistleblowers who sought to expose the truth about NIH-funded research and how it threatens humanity."...
xxx 3 hours agoMokovitz has written a new book called, "Plague of Corruption". The hardcopy is "sold out" EVERYWHERE. I find this fishy. I wonder if the kindle version has been edited to be less damaging to Fauci, et al. It wouldn't be hard for the government to buy up all the copies. Plus, the website for the book does not load.
xxx 3 hours ago (Edited)just sayen
https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/18/bill-gates-addresses-coronavirus-fears-and-hopes-in-ama/
xxx Ms No, 4 hours agoJust sayen
"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!" - Bill Gates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s
- "men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary against whom they can organize themselves and act together"
- "new enemies have to be identified, new strategies imagined, and new weapons devised"
- "in its present form, democracy is no longer well-suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today's problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time"
- "In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fill the bill"
- "The real enemy then is humanity itself."
Excerpts from "The First Global Revolution" – I would add, a wonderful marxist propaganda for the NWO.
harleyjohn45, 4 hours agoListen to this medical chick that saved millions from the EU and their swine flu vaccine that caused brain damage. They tried to have her "psychiatrized" which means locked away as crazy and probably tortured for the rest of her miserable life, being banged with blood draw needles, forced meds and put in a straight jacket. Close to Assange treatment.
DaiRR, 5 hours agoShe may have Fauci by the short hairs. He is deeply embedded in the national health care oligarchy. Not my favorite person, had a lot to do with destroying the US economy along with MSM.
wdg, 5 hours ago (Edited)The big pharma crime syndicate, embedded in government health agencies with operatives like Fauci, is a mega-billion dollar enterprise and those dollars buy off thousands of people like Fauci. People smarter than me need to figure out how to stop this once and forever.
Meanwhile, if you don't realize Google and Facebook and all their offshoots are your enemy, you are the enemy too.
Sl4yer, 5 hours ago (Edited)Dr. Judy Mikovits is just the tip of the iceberg as more and more doctors and reserach scientists are speaking out and exposing the BIG PHARMA CRIMINAL SYNDICATE that includes the WHO, CDC, NIH and many other so-called health care and research agencies around the world, and Drs. Fauci and Birx not to mention the leadership of most western government who have been bought off by this Criminal Syndicate which has murdered and debilitated millions of people. These are crimes against humanity carried out at the highest levels of governments, corporations and governmental agencies.
Watch the powerful video interview of Robert Kennedy Jr. below which provides a window into the evil world we now live in. Big Pharma and the medical profession which sold their souls for money are both finished because the trust is gone. Class action suits will bankrupt the lot.
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLi6ZrFp6NIH vQ&feature=emb_logo
xxx 5 hours agoFew papers of this "crazy" woman....
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21178474
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21576403
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22991430
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21940862
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7853532
...and the list goes on, and on and on.
Your Wikipedia and all your stupid marxist propaganda is fake, yep!
xxx 5 hours ago (Edited)Why is the video doctored right at the end to make Fauci say a damning sentence. You can see his head jerk to new positions as they piece together bits of video.
That fake ending just negated all credibility for the video.
-FAKE-
xxx 4 hours ago (Edited)No doctoring.
Take a look at the original video where he told that (the part of interest is at the very beginning starting at 2:50 and is ending at 3:40) and you shall see that the meaning (when the parts where he brags about his past and future were removed) of what he actually have told in that part was not altered in any way - the meaning is exactly the same. Due diligence in these times is actually quite easy in cases like these, hence you should probably do the same prior to posting
I have zero tolerance for fake news. It's not up to me. If I spot it, I call it. You just confirmed I was right. It's up to them to not fake video of a person they are disparaging. There is no way for him to comment about that doctored section at the end.
Edit: I thank you for doing that research but it shouldn't be up to you either. This is not the time for fake anything.
May 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Igor Bundy , May 6 2020 20:50 utc | 15
This imperial college that consults with the CDC and WHO and others should have also looked at previous forecasts... No one serious should have paid any attention to this Ferguson guy because his modelling was off by factors.. He has now destroyed hundreds of millions of lives, cost countries trillions. Mostly only Africa was saved because they have lived thorough westerners saying they dont know what they are doing and stopped listening. Death rates at a very few areas that were published were higher but were the same everywhere else. In fact over the course of the next few years the effects of this will be widely felt as above average death rates due to the factors. Far above even without anything being done at all.In 2009, one of Ferguson's models predicted 65,000 people could die from the Swine Flu outbreak in the UK -- the final figure was below 500. potential death toll during the 2005 Bird [avian] Flu outbreak. Ferguson estimated 200 million could die. The real number was in the low hundreds.
May 07, 2020 | bostonreview.net
The latter camp has won significant media attention in recent weeks. Bill Gates -- whose foundation funds the research behind the most visible outbreak model in the United States, developed by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington -- worries that COVID-19 might be a "once-in-a-century pandemic."
A notable detractor from this view is Stanford's John Ioannidis, a clinical epidemiologist, meta-researcher, and reliable skeptic who has openly wondered whether the coronavirus pandemic might rather be a "once-in-a-century evidence fiasco." He argues that better data are needed to justify the drastic measures undertaken to contain the pandemic in the United States and elsewhere.
May 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Russ , May 6 2020 6:04 utc | 56
Neil Ferguson is the chief hack with an unbroken record of failure in his epidemiological projections (and therefore always failing upward, as is typical of the system's most useful propagandists), whose prescriptions have been instrumental in pushing the lockdown ideology and program.Now we learn that he himself doesn't believe in his own lies, as he has felt free to flout the same restrictions he has insisted must become the totalitarian "new normal".
That, along with the already long list of similar examples among the policy elites, proves it: The lockdown elites themselves know it's all a Big Lie.
For Ferguson's prior record:
https://www.voltairenet.org/article209749.html
"Professor Neil Ferguson, high priest of liberal hospital management and inventor of the generalized containment against Covid-19. Professor Ferguson is still the European reference for epidemic modelling.
- Yet it was he who, in 2001, convinced Prime Minister Tony Blair to have 6 million cattle slaughtered to stop the foot-and-mouth epidemic (a decision that cost 10 billion pounds and is now considered an aberration).
- In 2002, he calculated that mad cow disease would kill about 50,000 British people and another 150,000 when transmitted to sheep. There were actually 177.
- In 2005, he predicted that bird flu would kill 65,000 Britons. There were a total of 457."
His Corona terror-mongering will become known as his ultimate failure and lie.
May 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
RS , May 5 2020 12:03 utc | 150
Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
May 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Update (1045ET): In video of Trump's Tuesday morning scrum with reporters, the president can be heard telling a reporter that he is allowing Dr. Fauci to testify before the Senate - and not the House - because the House is "a set up".
REPORTER: Why won't you let Fauci testify before the House?
TRUMP: "Because the House is a set up. The House is a bunch of Trump haters ... they, frankly, want our situation to be unsuccessful, which means death." pic.twitter.com/G3G5OoV5IV
-- Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 5, 2020
May 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 01:26 PM
And Fauci has already been awarded the dunce cap with his 1980s assertion that HIV was going kill us all. So I guess for his most recent action he gets the dunce cap with slide rule cluster.
May 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
omp , May 5 2020 10:47 utc | 144
A conclusion on the origin of a virus is frankly just secondary in a globalized world, is it not?"The project was run by EcoHealth Alliance, a non-profit research group, under the direction of President Peter Daszak, an expert on disease ecology. NIH canceled the project just this past Friday, April 24th, Politico reported. Daszak did not immediately respond to Newsweek requests for comment."
May 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Pft , May 4 2020 22:29 utc | 56
These models are nothing more than curve fitting tools that have limited predictive value.Basically the models are derived from Neil Ferguson and his modelling group at Imperial College, in addition to being backed by WHO, receive millions from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
Ferguson was the source of the "prediction" that 2.2 million Americans would likely die if immediate lockdown of the US economy did not occur. Based on the Ferguson model, Dr Anthony Fauci of NIAID confronted President Trump and supposedly pressured him to declare a national health emergency. Much as in the UK, once the damage to the economy , Ferguson's model later drastically lowered the US fatality estimates to between 100,000 to 200,000 deaths which has since been reduced further.
Ferguson and his Imperial College modelers have a notorious track record for predicting dire consequences of diseases. In 2002 Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people in UK would die from variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, "mad cow disease", possibly to 150,000 if the epidemic expanded to include sheep. A total of 178 people were officially registered dead from vCJD. In 2005, Ferguson claimed that up to 200 million (!) people worldwide would be killed by bird-flu or H5N1. By early 2006, the WHO had only linked 78 deaths to the virus. Then in 2009 Ferguson's group at Imperial College advised the government that swine flu or H1N1 would probably kill 65,000 people in the UK. In the end, swine flu claimed the lives of 457 people.
As for China. They need a Fake Cold War. Have to give people an external enemy so people wont figure out who the real enemy is. To the extent China was involved it was as an equal partner.
May 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
c1ue , May 4 2020 22:30 utc | 59
Here's a good first-hand story of the difference between China and the US in handling nCOV:
SCMP story on ex-pat American familyI was on the ground in the US for less than 36 hours, but saw enough to be alarmed. If I hadn't forcefully volunteered that I had just come from living in China, I don't think anyone would have checked me for fever before entering the US.Once I declared myself, I was escorted to a "CDC line" for a cursory temperature check (with a large group of Mormon missionaries returning from Europe), given a Centres for Disease Control and Prevention flier about Covid-19 symptoms and asked to stay home and minimise my trips outside for 14 days.
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Finally, after we promised not to leave our flat, our passports were returned to us, and at 4.03am, some 16 hours after landing, we were home. That morning, a young woman in a hazmat suit knocked on our door and took our temperatures at 10am. She returned at 3pm to take our temperatures again.
This routine was repeated for 14 days before we would be permitted to circulate in the general Shanghai population. We chatted occasionally with our temperature takers (they were a rotating cast of 20-something women). Initially, a man would accompany them to film the temperature reading, but by the final few days the women came alone.
A few days after our return, we discovered that authorities had placed a sensor on our door. And more than a week after the start of our quarantine, we received a note informing us we were not to open our door more than five times a day.
There's a lot more on the epic journey to pass through Chinese airport/immigration/nCOV control procedures, but just this last bit makes it clear what the difference is.
Has anyone out there seen or heard of any nCOV quarantined people in the US even being checked on once to see if they are maintaining quarantine? Much less twice a day for 14 days by a live person, plus a sensor on the door?
Note that this is a much easier setup than contact tracing.
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JBrant , May 5 2020 1:25 utc | 111
Thanks for this very helpful tracing of US propaganda.
Those projections are very suspect, especially Deaths Per Day, where the model is way off the mark for Past data on deaths per day! Any decent model would at least account for the past data, but that one predicted a fifth of the deaths, and shows the rate dramatically increasing when reported deaths are slowly decreasing.
In the US, some states (Guam, Hawaii, Vermont) have suppressed the virus spread very well, some (Florida, Washington state) have a slow decline in new cases, and just a few (Massachusetts, Virginia others) are still increasing in new cases per day. Fortunately, the rate is increasing in the District of Corruption, but not fast enough to reduce the corruption much.
May 04, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
"The basis of reassuring the public about re-entry is repeating the facts about the threat and who it targets . By now, studies from Europe and the U.S . all suggest that the overall fatality rate is far lower than early estimates. And we know who to protect, because this disease – by the evidence – is not equally dangerous across the population. In Michigan's Oakland County , 75 percent of deaths were in those over 70 years old; 91 percent were in people over 60, similar to what was noted in New York . And younger, healthier people have virtually zero risk of death and little risk of serious disease; as I have noted before, under one percent of New York City's hospitalizations have been patients under 18 years of age, and less than one percent of deaths at any age are in the absence of underlying conditions.
Here are specific and logical steps to end the lockdown and safely restore normal life:
First , let's finally focus on protection for the most vulnerable -- that means nursing home patients, who are already living under controlled access. This would include strictly regulating all who enter and care for nursing home members by requiring testing and protective masks for all who interact with these highly vulnerable people. Specifically, nursing home workers should be tested for COVID-19 antibodies, and if negative, for virus to exclude infection, to ensure safety of senior residents. No COVID-19-positive patient can resume residence until definitively cleared by testing.
We should continue to inform the public about what they have already successfully learned regarding the at-risk group. That means issuing rational guidelines advising the highest standards of hygiene and appropriate social distancing while interacting with elderly friends and family members at risk, including those with diabetes, obesity and other chronic conditions.
Second , those with mild symptoms of the illness should strictly self-isolate for two weeks. It's not urgent to test them -- simply assume they have the infection. That includes confinement at home, having the highest concern for sanitization and wearing protective masks when others in their homes enter the same room." Dr. Scott Atlas in The Hill
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It should be mentioned that Dr. John Ioannides, a leading epidemiologist at Stanford agrees with Dr. Atlas.
I saw Atlas on a news program a day or so ago. The anchor looked frightened by what Atlas was saying. This is understandable. The COVID panic is now so deeply embedded and pervasive that to question the rationale for the shut-down of the economy is equivalent to heresy in a theocratic state.
IMO the road back economically is going to be slow and difficult. I hope I am wrong. pl
Diana Croissant , 04 May 2020 at 09:38 AM
I hope you are wrong, too. I am tired of the drama and hysteria.J , 04 May 2020 at 10:40 AMStill, I do want the investigations into China's culpability for the
result of their "accident" or of their planned upheaval of the rest of the world.I just want to trust some designated "expert" to tell us when when we can put away the masks and can take up hugging our friends and shaking hands while smiling and meeting new acquaintances. What is a church service without that and all the stories of Christs care and concern for the "untouchables" of the world?
Colonel,Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 10:59 AMBeijing is getting very nervous. Take a look at Reuter's report:
Exclusive: Internal Chinese report warns Beijing faces Tiananmen-like global backlash over virus
Seems the CCP's MSS's think-tank CICR compiled an Intelligence Report of their own warning of possible armed conflict with U.S..
IMO it's hoped that our IC will realize that this virus doesn't jump ship into the human sphere on its own naturally without 'human tweaking in a lab' which then provides a bridge from which the virus could go from bats to the human sphere. And why would the CCP/MSS play such a dangerous game? -- Bio-weapons R&D.
There can be little doubt that the fascist/socialist/anti-Trump elements in this country have seized upon the presence of the virus to attempt to destroy Trump's chances in November and to bring about greater state control of citizens. This immediately after the lame impeachment plot failed to remove Trump; which was right after the lame Russian collusion plot failed to remove Trump.Deap , 04 May 2020 at 11:11 AMI don't think it's paranoid to consider that China released the virus on the US at a time when President Trump is engaging in a major trade war with the Chinese, as a tactic in fighting that war.
The Ionides/Atlas clinical perspective has been known to be correct - based on data - since March, yet the Democrat controlled states continue to double down on state control of their populations and destruction of their economies.
The Left has become a collection of kamikazes. The elites can ride this out. They have money. They are hoping that when the economy is in ashes, all of the starving little people will come into their open arms.
In 1968 another Asian virus, known as the Hong Kong flu, arrived in the US. It began killing Americans noticeably in 1969. As this was occurring, the Woodstock music festival was planned. The festival went off with now famous record crowd numbers during the peak of the virus. No one seemed to care. That virus ultimately killed 100,000 Americans (not Woodstock attendees); more than covid, even if you believe the artificially inflated covid figures. That was at a time when the population of the US was far less. So a far greater % died than covid.
We've been here before folks. It's the reaction that is different this time. The reaction is driven by internal and external political objectives of massive importance for our future as a free society.
Free people need to be able to make these decisions on their own. Give them clear information and let them decide their next move. Keep the government "experts" out of the decision making process. I believe that as the weather improves and the economic hardship increases, Americans will turn on the fascist/socialist elites and take their lives back. The vulnerable and the cowards will self-isolate. I further believe Americans will do what they need to to get the economy going again, buying American made only, patronizing small businesses beyond what they normally would and voting for pro-American candidates (i.e. the Democrats lose big time).
What should we be doing every "flu season"?Barbara Ann , 04 May 2020 at 11:13 AMWhat have we done every flu season that has resulted in very similar numbers and population groups affected. How, in fact, is this one materially different.
Mnuchin said today that it is too early to say whether international travel will open back up before the end of the year . Coincidentally, I also came across a Twitter poll of 15,000 people with the the following question & results:David Solomon , 04 May 2020 at 11:18 AM"Hypothetically, if everything opens up tomorrow when would you fly again?"
- Immediately 25%
- 2-3 months 20%
- 3-6 months 26%
- 1 year or more 29%Hardly scientific and I've no idea of the demographic or geographic spread of respondents, but it seems pretty clear many people remain fearful.
Colonel Lang, As to economic recovery I suggest listening to this podcast with Nouriel Roubini.TV , 04 May 2020 at 11:20 AMThe Democrat-media hysteria HAS been deeply ingrained.PJ20 , 04 May 2020 at 11:30 AM
The mass of people have - not surprisingly - turned out to be lambs (baby sheep).
Each person is responsible for managing their own life - which includes risk.
Unfortunately, the population of lambs has been trained over the years to look for mommy government to manage their risk - mandatory seat belt laws come to mind.
Ben Franklin said it succinctly:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."There is widespread criticism of Ioannides two Covid studies, including the use of an unapproved antibody tests which is known to give false positives; statistical flaws, and recruiting volunteers for the sampling via Facebook, as well as the wife of a study co-author to call and recruit parents from her kids school.Patrick Armstrong , 04 May 2020 at 11:48 AMHere is an excerpt from an article on the controversy.
""My quick take is that something really odd is going on with Ioannidis," wrote Alexander Rubinsteyn, a geneticist and computational biologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, in an email to Undark. Rubinsteyn suggested that Ioannidis may simply be "so attached to being the iconoclast that defies conventional wisdom that he's unintentionally doing horrible science."
He added: "Pretty much no one with statistical acumen believes these studies.""https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/23/coronavirus-antibody-studies-california-stanford
Here's who Ioannidis is https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/JJackson , 04 May 2020 at 11:57 AMIn areas where the health system is not under stress this makes perfect sense. I would give the hugging, handshaking and church services a miss and maintain the social distancing at work and when out of the house as far as is practical. It needs to be done with lots of testing, contact tracing and case isolation. Knowledge and common sense on everyone's part will work. Limited local shutdown may be needed if cases start climbing in some areas.BillWade , 04 May 2020 at 12:22 PMOur restaurants open today in most of Florida. In spite of needing our hair attended to, we will eat out both lunch and dinner. Sadly, some of our restaurants are closing for good. My wife tells me that local Facebook is about evenly divided about going out now. I don't get it as these folks have been gathering in the supermarkets the whole time.turcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 12:40 PMAllEric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 12:42 PMExplain to me what anti-body testing does for us as a population other than allow mapping the extent of infection.
PJ20,AK , 04 May 2020 at 12:46 PM
Except the results of the Ionides study have been replicated several times now elsewhere in the country, including NYC.Diana Croissant,ST Harris , 04 May 2020 at 12:55 PM"I just want to trust some designated 'expert' to tell us when when we can put away the masks and can take up hugging our friends and shaking hands while smiling and meeting new acquaintances. What is a church service without that and all the stories of Christs care and concern for the 'untouchables' of the world?"
I think that "expert" you seek is going to have to be the person you see in the mirror every morning. The "designated experts" have no interest in encouraging you to go back to living a life you love. As Eric Newhill stated, it's going to be up to free-thinking adults to make those decisions for themselves. If you expect or hope for "experts" to protect you from yourself, then you have too much faith in "experts" and in government. Take sensible precautions as they relate to your own risk demographic and respect other people making those choices for themselves. Otherwise let's all get on living like Americans.
Even in blissful 'pre rona' December the Fed's repo market had been sounding the alarms that a serious bubble recession was coming. Nothing apparently was fixed from the last wall street megadooshbaggery meltdown. See:Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 01:21 PMhttps://www.housingwire.com/articles/wells-fargo-joins-chase-in-halting-helocs/
This means that even those who built up real estate equity will have a difficult time short term liquifying that equity, which means that Chase, Wells Fargo, et al have a lot of pessimism about the US real estate market, the thing they have made so much money on last few years, and which they were supposed to have fixed.
well pilgrims ;) not only is the economy enduring sudden searing pandemic pain, it is also feeling the beginning of a big bubble popping recession, which everybody in the financial world was already freaking about well before the rona arrived. Perhaps endless Fed QE can prop up equities markets through November, perhaps, but then it's all bets off into 2021 as numerous wall street debts scams will have to be deleveraged.
Sir,The Twisted Genius , 04 May 2020 at 01:25 PM
In the spirit of fairness, anti-body testing would allow scientists to identify who has the anti-bodies and then track them to see if they become re-infected and, if so, at what level of severity. That would shed light on the "herd immunity" theory (i.e. is there such a thing and, if so, to what extent?).Otherwise, calls for "universal testing" are just sound bites born of confusion and panic, at best; another means of violating the rights of Americans at worst (e.g. making people wear yellow stars, carrying papers that allow them to enjoy full or truncated societal "privelges").
pl,Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 01:26 PMWidespread antibody testing will show covid-19 is more contagious than a lot of diseases, but not not near as deadly as most people think. People will see they had it, didn't even know it and are now immune to it at least in the near term. Fear will be deflated. We will then have a known large segment of the population known to not capable of further spreading the virus and a ready supply of antibody serum as an effective treatment for those who do get infected. That will also diminish fear.
Covid-19 and our response to it is as much a political issue as it is a public health issue. Trump was going to run on a booming economy. If he wants to get back to that strategy, he has to banish the fear of the virus. That will get everyone back to work so they can eat and pay rent, as well as continue to piss away their money on crap they don't need. Our economy depends on all that. If Trump is smart, he best get to stepping and institute a nationwide antibody testing program.
And Fauci has already been awarded the dunce cap with his 1980s assertion that HIV was going kill us all. So I guess for his most recent action he gets the dunce cap with slide rule cluster.Deap , 04 May 2020 at 01:29 PMA cruise passenger interests website offered another informal poll - are you willing to cruise again: 64% said as much as in the past; 10% said they would cruise even more to help get the industry back on its feet. Therefore, in this obviously interested sample, 75% want the cruise industry to start up again. Yesterday. 25% will choose to wait or not cruise again.turcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 01:40 PMThe cruise industry passenger base remains willing and loyal. In fact they are probably better trained in personal hygiene habits than most having had to deal with noro (aka tourista ) in the past and a typical URI complaint commonly called" cruise crud" that was most likely picked up on the air flight to get to the cruise port. The real numbers of disease and mortality overall within this industry do not support the screaming head llnes and lurid reporting.
TTGDeap , 04 May 2020 at 01:44 PMIt remains to be seen if one infection makes an individual immune for some time. IMO we should follow the Atlas/Ioannides formula. I noticed in re-reading "Sharpsburg," that Hunter McGuire appears therein.
What does an anti-body test do? I just had one last week and awaiting the results - was a cruise passenger and international air passenger during the month of January in a later suspected area. (not Asia).turcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 01:44 PMHere is why I did the anti-body test: (Quest Labs - fee service, no RX- 99% accuracy - drawn blood vial test)
1. Helps substantiate dates and areas of transmission that may not yet be in the data pool.
2. Tracks the rates of asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases occurring among the "elderly", in order to see if there is an enhanced risk of not in this age group, if there are no underlying co-morbidities.
3. Adds demographic data specific for the travel industry.
4. Allows possible donation of anti-body serum for research and perhaps mitigation of those who are affected.
5. Personal peace of mind -been there and done that. Freedom to move about.
6. Provides baseline for duration of immunity; resilience of immunity or data showing re-infection can be possible.
Primarily it is for data gathering to help stop the hysteria. That was worth the time, money and blood donation for me. We will never know the true extent of this virus, its impacts, its initial modeling accuracy until we start plugging facts into the "expert" hypotheticals.
Taking one for the team is the way I see it. Will I now become a local Typhoid Mary and our house burned down if this data becomes known? Or will people stop walking out into the roadway in faux deference to my advanced age as I pass by, from our deliciously virtue signaling "progressive" population in blue state California.
Allturcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 01:47 PMAm I right or wrong in thinking that when the injected liquidity plus existing cash exceeds the amount of money that would haven been in the economy at this point then the currency will begin to inflate?
DeapOilman2 , 04 May 2020 at 01:54 PM"Provides baseline for duration of immunity; resilience of immunity or data showing re-infection can be possible. Primarily it is for data gathering to help stop the hysteria." Yes
Colonel, you are NOT wrong. The oil business in America is going to take a very long time to recover. There are complete shutterings of businesses, bankruptcies and more - all while we were in the middle of a downturn. Personally, I just folded up my tent because my my active client list went from 21 to zero over this last month (and that includes intl clients).The Twisted Genius , 04 May 2020 at 02:06 PMAs the number one buyer of US steel, the oilpatch represents much more than people realize. We have also been the number one buyer of many other items - where sales have disappeared as company quietly and reluctantly face the reality of the current induced glut.
I'm being forced to change livelihoods - interesting for me, as I am short of the age to get my SS check and too old to employ by most corporate masters....
pl,Yes, I noticed Hunter Holmes when I reread Chancellorsville this time. I knew nothing about him until you mentioned him a while back. He also founded what is now the VCU Medical Center and was president of the AMA for a time. There is a statue of him on the State Capitol grounds, but i haven't seen it yet.
May 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
It's likely Fauci's incorrect simply because just as central planners routinely failed when it came to planning economic outcomes in the 20th century, so does that same central planning fail now. Fauci once again may be brilliant, but he's no match for a U.S. economy comprised of hundreds of millions of individuals making infinite informed decisions every second of every day.
The same applies to Bill Gates. Some believe that his undeniable genius as a businessman positions him to knowledgeably opine on how we the U.S. and the world can come back from the virus. Gates has observed that businesses would be troubled with or without the lockdowns, unemployment would be higher with or without them, so the plan should be to continue them until we're better situated in terms of a vaccine.
Is Gates right? It's once again difficult to know. For one, his analysis ignores the "unseen"; as in what would individuals and businesses have done had the response of politicians to the virus been something like "You're all adults. Be careful."
If so, it's not unreasonable to suggest that Fauci, Gates and other intelligent individuals would have strongly called for Americans to shelter-in-place, and tens of millions would have done just that. At the same time, Elon Musk and investors like Michael Burry might have responded in more intrepid fashion; calling for individuals and businesses to work around a virus of unknown lethality.
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Likklemore , May 3 2020 0:21 utc | 55
There was a Virtual March today for PPE.
[.] "For lack of a 75-cent piece of equipment, we're losing lives and putting more lives at risk," said Lisa Lattanza, MD, chair of the Department of Orthopaedics and Rehabilitation at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut.
I purchased masks this week that [usually cost] 75 cents per mask that were being sold for $5.50, $6 on the market. We had to pay it. It's either that or not have the masks," she said.
Lack of Masks Shows Lack of Value."[.]March 4, 2020
HHS clarifies US has about 1% of face masks needed for 'full-blown' coronavirus pandemicAnd still not done. Where is Jared Kushner?
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Clueless Joe , May 1 2020 18:36 utc | 66
That WHO basically fucked up because of Western pressure more than because of China is obvious. Just look at the most recent idiocy they promoted: masks are useless. China would never claim that - both because they rely massively on them and because they produce and sell a lot of them. On the other hand, Western governments who were asleep at the wheel and never bothered to store or produce facemasks were desperately trying to convince their sheep flock, I mean, people, that they were all good, managed the crisis as best as anyone could, and that there wasn't any shortage of masks because these weren't useful to begin with.
Case closed.
And for the eternal record of universal history: China's dictatorship obviously cared more about its people than self-claimed democratic governments. Let that sink in for a minute.
CharkVaror , May 1 2020 18:44 utc | 67
This whole coronabs is the biggest psyops in the history of mankind, 11/9 looks like a joke compared to it.hopehely , May 1 2020 18:57 utc | 68Posted by: Clueless Joe | May 1 2020 18:36 utc | 66
That WHO basically fucked up because of Western pressure more than because of China is obvious.
I don't think WHO fucked up. Western countries simply did not have an appetite to do any measures until the pain was high enough.
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Allen , May 3 2020 2:09 utc | 70
There's a lot of trash science out there re:Covid- it was founded on trash science.Maybe next post you could go into the trash science of the fraudulent tests themselves.
In the mean time this is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand what is going on- one of the most concise pieces on the subject to date:
The WHO makes gratuitous use of appellations such as "world" and "health" but is actually a semi-private entity lavishly financed by Bill Gates and Big Pharma, which is owned by a handful of highly inbred oligarchic entities that include Vanguard, BlackRock, Capital Group, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Northern Trust and State Street, which in turn own each other in various convoluted ways.
WHO's main function is to scare people into getting vaccinated and accepting expensive drug regimens (barely half of which do any good at all), thus funneling resources toward Big Pharma.
The World Health Organization establishes thresholds to determine whether to declare an influenza epidemic that range between 2.5% and 5%. The novel coronavirus misses the mark by a thousand-fold, yet the WHO has declared it to be the cause of a global pandemic.
If this seems like an extreme overreaction, that is because this is an extreme overreaction.
Some conspiratorially-minded people may surmise that this is a conspiracy, but it isn't. It is yet another blatant attempt to confiscate a chunk of the world's wealth by requiring it to buy something worthless, just like this same set of medical/financial interests did with the relatively worthless Tamiflu antiviral medication during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic of 2009-10 which caused a mere 18,036 deaths worldwide. This is a specific group pursuing its own group interests.
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https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/05/02/gaslighting-the-coronavirus-dimitry-orlov/
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uncle tungsten , May 2 2020 22:28 utc | 43
Thanks b for that polite and quiet reference to:
Last month, the state paid Yaron Oren-Pines $47,656 per ventilator for 1,450 ventilators, three times the normal asking price,........Oren-Pines has no known capability or expertise in making ventilators. According to BuzzFeed, his social media shows expressions of support for Trump since at least 2015.
He has not provided the ventilators, and New York state is attempting to recover the money, BuzzFeed reported. Oren-Pines would not comment to the online news site.
An unnamed official for the New York state government said the recommendation to deal with Oren-Pines came directly from the White House coronavirus task force. A spokeswoman for Vice President Mike Pence, who heads the task force, denied any involvement in making the recommendation.
The carpetbaggers are always in the lead if not the instigators. Perhaps he was on the last flight home.
May 03, 2020 | econintersect.com
"Sclerotic America" [John Furlan, Econintersect ].
"The U.S. has had sclerotic political leadership during this crisis. The U.S. is being offered the "choice" between Trump, 73, and Biden, 77. Its other major political players are Pelosi, 80, and McConnell, 78 .
Trump of course bears most of the blame for the Covid-19 Crisis.
But the Dems and liberal media also share a lot. Trump dithered for many crucial weeks after China's CCP very belatedly shut down Wuhan on January 23, many weeks after the virus emerged What were the Dems and liberal media doing during those crucial weeks? From December 18 to February 5 they culminated three years of wasting the nation's time trying to impeach Trump for Russia- and Ukraine-gate, as the virus picked up steam.
The Dems and liberal media held "debates" and primaries through March 17 in which Covid-19 was barely mentioned except in the context of Sanders' Medicare for All, focusing instead on such issues as Bloomberg's NDA's (Biden's opponents are now using a similar #MeToo attack)." • "The duty of an opposition party is to oppose."
May 03, 2020 | asiatimes.com
In the face of a moratorium in the US, Dr Anthony Fauci – the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and currently the leading doctor in the US Coronavirus Task Force – outsourced in 2015 the GOF research to China's Wuhan lab and licensed the lab to continue receiving US government funding.
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Dr. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently declared the anti-viral drug remdesivir as a "standard of care" based on unpublished trials. But the judgment was sketchy and has come under question as it seems that the government moved the goalposts to achieve this outcome:
Instead of counting how many people taking the drug were kept alive on ventilators or died, among other measures, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said it would judge the drug primarily on a different outcome: how long it took surviving patients to recover.Death and other negative outcomes were moved to secondary measure status: They would still be tracked, but they would no longer be the key measure of remdesivir's performance. The switch -- which specialists said is unusual in major clinical trials but not unheard of -- was publicly disclosed on the government's clinicaltrials.gov website on April 16 but did not receive much attention at the time.
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"It raises a lot of flags, and it requires a lot of answers," Walid F. Gellad, a professor of health policy and management at the University of Pittsburgh's Department of Medicine, said in an interview, "especially when people start saying it's become the standard of care, and all we saw was a news release in a trial with an outcome that was changed two weeks ago. It really is striking."A Chinese double blind study of remdesivir, previously published in Lancet , had come to the conclusion that the drug had no statistically noticeable influence on the length of recovery and the outcome.
One wonders how much White House influence was used to push that drug. White House influence may also have been used in this ventilator acquisition that was paid for but never delivered .
May 03, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Needless to say, you did not need to be entombed in the infectious disease tunnel at the NIH for 52 years like Dr. Fauci, a pretentious 79-year old windbag who should have himself been put in a retirement home years ago, to realize that nursing homes are dense-packed with the frail, disease-afflicted elderly.
So rather than wipe out $4 trillion of GDP via Lockdown Nation they might have started with say $25 billion of incremental money for Medicare/Medicaid and the state public health agencies to zero-in on protecting, isolating and treating the nursing home residents.
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cj , May 2 2020 23:41 utc | 51
Hi B,
I think that we don't know if remdesivir works or not. The trial used patients that were very sick. The virus had done its job and was no longer replicating exponentially. When you look at these lungs they are full of exudate and superinfection and the damage is done. I am surprised that there was any effect and the fact that there was is very encouraging. The time to give a chain terminator like remdesivir is early in the infection as soon as the patient presents and you have a positive test. You must hit the virus as it is exponentiating in the nasopharynx. That is when you have to do the clinical trial then the outcome is admission to ITU or not, then death or survival-- a really big trial.
I agree it is wrong to change the goal posts and it shouldn't have happened --- but the clinical trial was flawed from the beginning any way.
In defense of remdesivir it works rather well in feline infectious peritonitis (FIP) which is caused by a corona virus and is 100% lethal in cats. Remdesivir results in 100% survival with occasional relapse that is still treatable with the drug. In humans, remdesivir will work only if you give it early-- it is a powerful delayed chain terminator. So I do think the drug will protect people that are in the early stages of the disease- so everyone will get it and it will be huge for Gilead.
Duncan Idaho , May 2 2020 23:52 utc | 52
In humans, remdesivir will work only if you give it early-- it is a powerful delayed chain terminator.vk , May 2 2020 19:44 utc | 2Yep, the first 48 hours, if our data is correct. This is still early in the game.
I think this remdesivir authorization was a genius move by the Trump administration. So genial even Dr. Fauci must have immediately understood the catch and endorsed it, as it is probable the drug must not have any grave collateral effects on the patients (as is the case with hydroxycloroquine).Trailer Trash , May 2 2020 19:44 utc | 3First of all, remdesivir helps one of America's biggest pharmaceuticals (Gilead). Therefore, it will also help American capitalist reproduction.
Second, it will trigger a nationwide placebo effect thanks to widespread optimism and petit-bourgeois euphoria, thus lowering the death rates (though not the infection rates), and giving Trump an election boost in crucial areas (by the astroturf protests pattern, important swing states in the Midwest).
Third, by the time the efficacy of remdesivir is debunked, the Trump administration can simply state they acted with good will, with the "evidence" available at the time, and gently apologize. It is the perfect plausible deniability.
Fauci should be fired for promoting this crap research on remdesivir. Changing the primary endpoint is verboten, plain and simple. The only reason to change the primary endpoint is to cherry-pick data in order to claim "success". Honest journals, if they still exist, will not publish this rubbish, as it contravenes their industry's "Committee on Publication Ethics" guidelines. The control arm of the trial was halted, another giant red flag, so there is nothing to compare their cherry-picked data against.NWOdna , May 2 2020 19:57 utc | 4This trial is now at the quality level of the rubbish research that "proves" homeopathy "works". How can Fauci not be totally embarrassed by this? There must be powerful financial forces behind this. No amount of air freshener can cover up the stink...
Trailer Trash,John Smith , May 2 2020 20:26 utc | 12
FAUCI is now prohibited by Trump admin from testifying before Congress on the COVI debacle. This criminal co-conspirator of Billy Goats owns the patents on the same HIV genes that just happened to be found as gain-of-function additions to the genome of the Corona virus. PROVING it is a lab made bioweapon. W/ Fauci's signature all over creation of this WMD. He should get the electric chair for genocide.A price-idea for Remdesivir:Frank Barnes , May 2 2020 20:28 utc | 13
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/coronavirus/2020/05/02/Coronavirus-US-grants-emergency-approval-to-expand-use-of-Gilead-s-drug-remdesivir.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnBldI7KPY&t=2047shopehely , May 2 2020 20:39 utc | 14Judy Mikovits gives compelling evidence that Fauci is a criminal that has the power to retconn virus research. Her new book "Plague of Corruption" should be a great read, but I've heard parts are hard to underestand.
Posted by: Frank Barnes | May 2 2020 20:28 utc | 12Red Ryder , May 2 2020 21:22 utc | 30
Judy Mikovits gives compelling evidence that Fauci is a criminal that has the power to retconn virus research. Her new book "Plague of Corruption" should be a great read, but I've heard parts are hard to underestand.Thanks Frank for the info, that is very noble of you!
Fauci did the same with AIDS drugs. Jumped on the first one regardless. Unfortunately, in those days, people died and HIV was blamed when it likely was the drug. But, he's got almost the same situation now. If you are deep with the virus, you'll probably die, so the drug used is excused.Watch the vaccine the US finally chooses. They are talking already about pushing it out in this year, when the whole world knows it needs a year of testing.
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Likklemore , May 1 2020 16:32 utc | 43
IMHO, if this Newsweek article date April 28, 2020, is credible, then Trump and cohorts should tread carefully:
Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab With Millions Of U.S. Dollars For Risky Coronavirus Research[just] last year, the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.
In 2019, with the backing of NIAID, the National Institutes of Health committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, 5-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million.
Many scientists have criticized gain of function research, which involves manipulating viruses in the lab to explore their potential for infecting humans, because it creates a risk of starting a pandemic from accidental release.[.]
Dr. Fauci did not respond to Newsweek's requests for comment. NIH responded with a statement that said in part: "Most emerging human viruses come from wildlife, and these represent a significant threat to public health and biosecurity in the US and globally, as demonstrated by the SARS epidemic of 2002-03, and the current COVID-19 pandemic.... scientific research indicates that there is no evidence that suggests the virus was created in a laboratory."[.]
NIH gave a non-denial, avoidance denial. Congressmen were on Foxnews attacking the funding. Where there is a whiff of smoke?
Additional articles on U.S. funding:
NPR
FoxNews
NationalInterest cites Pompeo on Foxnews defending the funding. Also, UK papers repeat U.S. funding.
stevelaudig , May 1 2020 16:37 utc | 45
When ever the US government speaks on such issues. Refer them here... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
Apr 29, 2020 | www.militarytimes.com
Gleaming new tent hospitals sit empty on two suburban New York college campuses, never having treated a single coronavirus patient. Convention centers that were turned into temporary hospitals in other cities went mostly unused. And a Navy hospital ship that offered help in Manhattan is soon to depart. When virus infections slowed down or fell short of worst-case predictions, the globe was left dotted with dozens of barely used or unused field hospitals. [ Too bad Cuomo didn't send COVID-19 patients from the nursing homes to these ships for treatment... ]
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Antonym , May 1 2020 14:03 utc | 15
In pandemic blame distribution Fauci and the CDC top should get mayor shares.In financial crash blame distribution the New York FED with its top 5 controller / bail-out receiver banks have big parts. It still holds the world's other Central Banks hostage through its reserves and trade in U$ dollars only meme.
In the intelligence area it is not very different: also that branch of the US Deep State failed.
A multipolar world is getting closer..
GeorgeV , May 1 2020 14:04 utc | 16
The jaw-dropping stupidity of the Trump administration regarding the COVID-19 pandemic is truly mind numbing. There is an old dictum that states that there is no such thing as 'military intelligence.' To that I add there is no such thing as 'intelligence' in Washington DC either, or the Trump White House for that matter. If you try to look for it, you will only find hacks, flacks, quacks and certifiable jerks. You would do better to waste your time and money looking for the Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, or the Tooth Fairy. The prospect that Trump could get anther four years as president is depressing indeed. All that would be left is divine intervention, and I don't think that is any more likely than finding the aforementioned mythical creatures.
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Yesterday at 9:30 AM · Ten questions the U.S. needs to offer clear answers to the world regarding the # COVID19 .1. Regarding the restarted avian influenza virus modification experiment last year, why does the US release no more updates?
The Science reported in February 2019 that US authorities had quietly approved the avian influenza virus modification experiment. The research, aiming to transform the H5N1 virus to be more capable of infecting mammals, was controversial and considered extremely dangerous. Some experts believe that the modification may increase the risk of human-to-human transmission of the virus. The question is why the US government decided to unfreeze the experiment 4 years after it was halted, and why there are no more updates regarding the experiment.
2. The United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) was previously closed. What is the truth behind ?
The Global Biodefence reported in April that the USAMRIID, US Army's primary institution and facility for biological research headquartered in Fort Detrick, Maryland, has resumed full operation. The institution was once ordered to halt the study of biological select agents and toxins (BSATs) last July. In March, there was a petition on the White House website demanding the clarification of the shutdown of USAMRIID. Given that these issues have become a primary public concern, what is the US government's response?
3. The US Department of Health and Human Services ran a scenario last year that was similar to the COVID-19 outbreak. Is this just a coincidence?
In March, the New York Times quoted a draft report obtained from the US government saying that from January to August 2019, the US Department of Health and Human Services ran a scenario called "Crimson Contagion" that simulated the fictional outbreak involving a group of tourists visiting China. They then became infected and flew to various countries, including the US. Last October, a high-level pandemic exercise named Event 201 was hosted by a couple of US organizations. The drill simulated a scenario that a fictional virus called CAPS, which causes more severe symptoms than SARS and transmits via the respiratory route like the common flu, had caused a pandemic. Like COVID-19, there is no vaccine for CAPS.
Given the fact that the simulated virus is so much like COVID-19, is this just a coincidence? Another question is, why did it not take enough preventive measures at the early stages of the coronavirus outbreak since the US has predicted a similar pandemic?
4. US intelligence officials warned of coronavirus crisis as early as last November. Why the warning was ignored?
In April, according to the American Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), it was said that, as early as late November 2019, US intelligence officials had warned the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon, and the White House that an infectious disease was sweeping through Wuhan, China.
Last November, the US National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) issued a report detailing the coronavirus pandemic, which was later identified as "COVID-19". Some analysts believed that the outbreak in Wuhan might have evolved into a catastrophic event. According to the Washington Post, in more than two months from January to February, Trump had received intensive warnings from the US intelligence agencies about the coronavirus. Why did the US government not declare a "National Emergency" until March 13?
5. Among the reported influenza deaths in the US, can the US clarify how many cases are actually infected with COVID-19?
Japanese Asahi Television reported on February 21 that some of the 14,000 people reportedly killed by influenza in the US might have died from coronavirus, which became a hot topic soon after.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a report at the end of February, showing that there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses in the US that winter.
On March 11, at the House of Representatives, Robert Redfield, the director of the US CDC, admitted that some in the US who were previously thought to have been killed from the flu may have been infected with coronavirus.
Among the reported influenza deaths in the US, how many cases were infected with COVID-19? Did the US government cover up the spread of coronavirus with the flu? When will the US government make public the samples of the US influenza virus and its genetic sequence, or allow experts from the WHO or the United Nations to sample and analyze?
6. When did the novel coronavirus first appear in the US? Did community transmission of the coronavirus start sooner than it was reported?
A report released in late April by local health authorities suggests that a 57-year-old woman from Santa Clara County of California died from COVID-19 on February 6, some 20 days earlier than the date the US announced its first death caused by the virus.
The Los Angeles Times quoted Santa Clara County health officer Sara Cody in a piece saying, "we presume that each of them represents community transmission and that there was some significant level of virus circulating in our community in early February."
County Executive Officer Jeffrey V. Smith said this is evidence that the coronavirus was circulating in California as early as January or even earlier.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom has ordered all counties in the state to review autopsies of suspected coronavirus deaths dating back to December.
When did the novel coronavirus first appear in the US? Did community transmission of the coronavirus start sooner than it was reported?
7. How did the US get the virus strains so soon to start the first human testing of a vaccine against COVID-19?
The Wall Street Journal on March 16 reported that the first human testing of Moderna Inc.'s experimental vaccine against the COVID-19 had already begun. Experts immediately raised questions about the speed of the vaccine development, saying that it would not be possible unless the US had obtained the virus strains from very early on. So how did the US start the first human testing of the vaccine so soon? When and how did they get the virus strains?
8. Why did the US government keep downplaying the pandemic while its officials privately dumped stocks?
According to the Washington Post, US Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr and his wife sold up to 1.7 million in 33 different stocks just one week before the market plunged. Why did these officials at the Committee act so quickly while the government was continually understating the pandemic?
Why is the vital information kept confidential to the public while the government officials were taking advantage to practice insider-trading?
9. Why are US experts not allowed to discuss COVID-19 in public?
The New York Times reported that the White House began tightening controls for all coronavirus messaging from health officials on February 27 after Vice President Mike Pence led the nation's epidemic prevention and control efforts.
Several scientists and government health officials, including the nation's leading infectious disease expert Anthony S. Fauci, have been asked to make statements or make public appearances about the COVID-19 only after consultation with the US vice president's office.
Why does the United States, which claims free speech, not allow experts and scholars to discuss the novel coronavirus in public? Does the US want to hide something or fear of something?
10. What research is being done in the US overseas biological laboratories? Why does the US keep tight-lipped about it?
Natalia Poklonskaya, deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs, has proposed verifying the legitimacy of US biological laboratories around the world, according to Sputnik news agency.
Not long ago, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed concern about the establishment of a biological laboratory in countries from the former Soviet Union.
Grigory Trofimchuk, a Russian expert in the field of internal affairs, foreign affairs, and national defense, said the work of these biological laboratories was never disclosed to the outside world, and that they had caused several problems, with widespread outbreaks of dangerous infectious diseases such as measles at the laboratory site.
What research is being done in these biological laboratories? Why does the US keep tight-lipped about the function, use, the safety of these biological laboratories?
May 01, 2020 | www.corbettreport.com
Unsurprisingly, the Gates Foundation has injected substantial sums of money into both groups. This year alone, the Gates Foundation has already given $79 million to Imperial College, and in 2017 the Foundation announced a $279 million investment into the IHME to expand its work collecting health data and creating models.
Anthony Fauci, meanwhile, has become the face of the US government's coronavirus response, echoing Bill Gates' assertion that the country will not "get back to normal" until "a good vaccine" can be found to insure the public's safety.
ANTHONY FAUCI : If you want to get to pre-coronavirus . . . You know, that might not ever happen, in the sense of the fact that the threat is there. But I believe with the therapies that will be coming online, and with the fact that I feel confident that over a period of time we will get a good vaccine, that we will never have to get back to where we are right back now.
SOURCE: Dr. Anthony Fauci on return to normalcy from pandemic
Beyond just their frequent collaborations and cooperation in the past, Fauci has direct ties to Gates projects and funding. In 2010, he was appointed to the Leadership Council of the Gates-founded " Decade of Vaccines " project to implement a Global Vaccine Action Plan, a project to which Gates committed $10 billion of funding. And in October of last year, just as the current pandemic was beginning, the Gates Foundation announced a $100 million contribution to the National Institute of Health to help, among other programs, Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases' research into HIV.
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AMY GOODMAN : And the charity of billionaire Microsoft founder Bill Gates and his wife Melinda is under criticism following the disclosure it's substantially increased its holdings in the agribusiness giant Monsanto to over $23 million. Critics say the investment in Monsanto contradicts the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's stated commitment to helping farmers and sustainable development in Africa.
SOURCE: Gates Foundation Criticized for Increasing Monsanto Investment
LAURENCE LEE : The study from the pressure group Global Justice now paints a picture of the Gates Foundation partly as an expression of corporate America's desire to profit from Africa, and partly a damning critique of its effects.
POLLY JONES : You could have a case where the initial research is done by a Gates-funded institution. And the media reporting on how well that research is conducted is done, the media outlet is a Gates-funded outlet, or maybe a Gates-funded journalist from a media program. And then the program is implemented more widely by a Gates-funded NGO. I mean . . . There are some very insular circles here.
LEE : Among the many criticisms, the idea that private finance can solve the problems of the developing world. Should poor farmers be trapped into debt by having to use chemicals or fertilizers under written by offshoot of the foundation?
SOURCE: Gates Foundation accused of exploiting its leverage in Africa
This is no mere theoretical conflict of interest. Gates is held up as a hero for donating $35.8 billion worth of his Microsoft stock to the foundation, but during the course of his "Decade of Vaccines," Gates' net worth has actually doubled, from $54 billion to $103.1 billion .
The Rockefeller story provides an instructive template for this vision of tycoon-turned-philanthropist. When Rockefeller faced a public backlash, he helped spearhead the creation of a system of private foundations that connected in with his business interests. Leveraging his unprecedented oil monopoly fortune into unprecedented control over wide swathes of public life, Rockefeller was able to kill two birds with one stone: moulding society in his families' own interests even as he became a beloved figure in the public imagination.
Similarly, Bill Gates has leveraged his software empire into a global health, development and education empire, steering the course of investment and research and ensuring healthy markets for vaccines and other immunisation products. And, like Rockefeller, Gates has been transformed from the feared and reviled head of a formidable hydra into a kindly old man generously giving his wealth back to the public.
But not everyone has been taken in by this PR trick. Even The Lancet observed this worrying transformation from software monopolist to health monopolist back in 2009, when the extent of this Gates-led monopoly was becoming apparent to all:
The first guiding principle of the [Bill & Melinda Gates] Foundation is that it is "driven by the interests and passions of the Gates family." An annual letter from Bill Gates summarises those passions, referring to newspaper articles, books, and chance events that have shaped the Foundation's strategy. For such a large and influential investor in global health, is such a whimsical governance principle good enough?
SOURCE: What has the Gates Foundation done for global health?
This brings us back to the question: Who is Bill Gates? What are his driving interests? What motivates his decisions?
These are not academic questions. Gates' decisions have controlled the flows of billions of dollars, formed international partnerships pursuing wide-ranging agendas, ensured the creation of "healthy markets" for big pharma vaccine manufacturers. And now, as we are seeing, his decisions are shaping the entire global response to the coronavirus pandemic.
Next week, we will further explore Gates' vaccination initiatives, the business interests behind them, and the larger agenda that is beginning to take shape as we enter the "new normal" of the Covid-19 crisis.
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Antonym , May 1 2020 14:03 utc | 15
In pandemic blame distribution Fauci and the CDC top should get mayor shares.In financial crash blame distribution the New York FED with its top 5 controller / bail-out receiver banks have big parts. It still holds the world's other Central Banks hostage through its reserves and trade in U$ dollars only meme.
In the intelligence area it is not very different: also that branch of the US Deep State failed.
A multipolar world is getting closer..
May 01, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Russ , Apr 29 2020 20:55 utc | 49
Evil intent and premeditation are perfectly compatible with bad planning and gross incompetence.Look at every US war of aggression: It fails utterly at every affirmative goal, but so far always accomplishes the purely negative goals of mass murder, gross physical destruction and generating failed states. Same for disaster responses like with Katrina: They couldn't save any lives or help poor people rebuild, but they could complete the destruction of social infrastructure which the hurricane hadn't finished off.
That's the US, domestically and around the world. And people really think any kind of intensive response to an epidemic would have any other kind of outcome?
Jackrabbit , Apr 29 2020 21:32 utc | 53
NoOneYouKnow Apr29 20:41... it wouldn't surprise me if they deployed this virus in China without assuming, or caring about, blowback in the US.
karlof1 has speculated along the same lines weeks ago.My understanding of karlof1's argument is as follows: China turned the "weapon" (assuming it was a deliberate attack) back on USA by revealing the virus instead of keeping the outbreak quiet. The result has been the destabilizing of US society because USA leadership had never planned to respond to the virus in any way that is appropriate to a new virus.
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May 01, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org
The people need science. The teaching is a legacy of pathologist Rudolph Virchow who was at the barricades in Berlin in 1848. A journal entry in that year of revolutions reads, " Medicine is a social science , and politics nothing but medicine on a grand scale." The pioneering Virchow first pronounced upon the biological importance of cells in health and disease. He was the " chief founder of modern scientific medicine." (William H. Welch, Johns Hopkins School of Medicine 1902),
Virchow inspires today's imperative that the entitled classes not abandon science in the face of danger nor twist science to fit proprietary uses. This is the Virchow whose study of a typhus outbreak in Upper Silesia convinced him that class-based oppression – poverty and lack of education – was responsible for the epidemic, the Virchow who helped form the German Radical Party in 1884 and served in the Prussian and German parliaments.
Ask immunologist and virologist Rick Bright about science serving the people. That expert in preventing viral disease, particularly influenza, on April 21 was removed from his position in the Department of Health and Human Services. Bright was in charge of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority and of efforts to develop an anti-COVID 19 vaccine. He had 63 scientific articles to his credit.
Bright told the press that, "I believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the COVID-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit. I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science -- not politics or cronyism -- has to lead the way."
He added that, "contrary to misguided directives, I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the Administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit."
Science has been a bit player in the U.S. government's confrontation with the pandemic. President Trump's anti-science attitudes are far from the whole story, although his cut-off of U.S. funding for the World Health Organization was as dangerous as it was symbolic.
That government failed to take steps that would have allowed scientific inquiry during the early stages of the pandemic Early case-finding and tracking of contacts did not take place. Investigators lacked the raw material that might have allowed them to define the contours of an evolving epidemic, its special characteristics.
The fact of delay was clear on April 21 when a California medical examiner announced that COVID 19 had accounted for one death on February 6 and another on February 17. Neither victim had traveled outside the United States. The onset of their infections was presumably in mid-January. All along, authorities had regarded a Washington-state patient who tested positive on February 26 as the first U.S. victim of community-acquired infection. Yet CDC director Robert Redfield, testifying before a congressional committee on March 11, revealed that some patients assumed to have died from influenza did die from COVID 19 infection.
Also, the administration's China-bashing and even conspiracy theories about the origins of the pandemic testify to its dismissal of useful scientist research, particularly the findings of scientists throughout the world who know about the beginnings of the pandemic, in China.
British and German scientists " reconstructed the early 'evolutionary paths' of COVID-19 in humans." A Cambridge University team "mapped some of the original spread of the new coronavirus through its mutations, which creates different viral lineages." Virus genomes were studied " from across the world between 24 December 2019 and 4 March 2020."
The researchers categorized three types of COVID 19. The original Wuhan virus was type A; its mutated versions showed up in the United States and Australia. Type B, predominating in Wuhan, stayed put in East Asia. Type C appeared only in Europe, Singapore, Hong Kong and South Korea. The researchers "traced established infection routes: the mutations and viral lineages joined the dots between known cases." Such information about the virus's biologic behavior might have enabled public health officials to identify at-risk populations within the United States and abroad.
Lead author Peter Forster suggested to a reporter that in Wuhan "the first infection and spread among humans of COVID-19 occurred between mid-September and early December." His disclosure has implications for U.S. military athletes participating in the "World Military Games" in Wuhan in late October. They were among 9308 military athletes on hand from 100 countries. The athletes might have carried the virus with them on their return to the various nations.
Zoologist Peter Daszak, president of the New York – based EcoHealth Alliance, does research in China on inter-species sharing of viruses. He pointed out in 2013 that, "Coronaviruses evolve very rapidly [and] are exquisitely evolved to jump from one species to another." At the time, he was reflecting on the SARS coronavirus epidemic of 10 years earlier.
He offered a suggestion that, if acted upon, might have prevented the COVID 19 pandemic. The cost, Daszak estimated, would have been "about $1.5bn to discover all the viruses in mammals. I think that would be a great investment because once you have done it, you can develop vaccines and get ready with test kits to find the first stage of emergence and stop it."
This story of the U.S. government's abuse of science ends with lessons learned. They are: (1) science must exist for the benefit of all people and not be left to the mercies of the rich and powerful, (2) a government restricting and disrespecting scientists, like Dr. Bright, is dangerous to the people, and (3) a capability to plan is of the essence to a state that would assure the safety and flourishing of all its people. These basic standards, it seems here, will be identifying features for those societies that do emerge relatively intact from the pandemic. The odds favor the socialist ones.
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Agent76 , says: Show Comment April 30, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT
Apr 16, 2020 Dr. Ron Paul Interview: Bill Gates & Tony Fauci Are Determined To Run The World by VaccinesDr. Paul and Spiro discuss the current coronavirus crisis and the political, social and economic fallout effecting millions of Americans, as people begin to display resistance to the government lockdown response.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/LKkByA7nC4U?feature=oembed
Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell
James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/embed/vrJiKbK0tVM?feature=oembed
2.3 TRillion Dollars Missing from DOD Day before 9/11/ 2001
SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 Defense Business Practices
Secretary Rumsfeld and other officials talked with reporters about the need to refine the Defense Department's business practices. An opening ceremony will kick off Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week. They answered questions from members of the media
http://www.c-span.org/video/?165947-1/defense-business-practices
May 01, 2020 | www.unz.com
Watch this RT interview with Robert Kennedy to see how corrupt the CDC is. We cannot trust this corrupt organization with our health. The CDC has a large financial interest in pushing untested vaccines on the public.
WHO is even more under the control of Big Pharma. The organization is corrupt beyond the meaning of the word. "The WHO is a sock puppet for the pharmaceutical industry." -- Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Apr 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
xxx 2 hours ago (Edited)
xxx 2 hours agoNow its come out that Fauci personally oversaw 3.7million in grants to the Wuhan lab;
""Back in 2014, the Obama administration prohibited the U.S. from giving any money to any laboratory, including in the U.S., that was fooling around with these viruses. Prohibited! Despite that, Dr. Fauci gave $3.7 million to the Wuhan laboratory -- and then even after the State Department issued reports about how unsafe that laboratory was, and how suspicious they were in the way they were developing a virus that could be transmitted to humans,"Giuliani claimed
So, the guy who is heading up the Corona response personally oversaw the funding of the lab that created it......COME ON!
xxx 3 hours ago
I am a consistent complainer over the Obama administration's policies but this is one policy where I admire them. THIS is what I mean when I keep complaining about the scientific community. Obama had it right and should have been even more vocal in their opposition to misguided research. If the reports on Fauci funding this are true it should be exposed and LOUDLY vilified. WHEN are we going to hold the scientific community accountable? Do you know how many brilliant and decent scientists are being muted because of the likes of these type scientists that want free reign to do whatever they want?Here's my point: If a scientist lower in prestige than Dr. Fauci had written a paper defining "playing with viruses as important research" as unnecessary and dangerous, he/she would be putting their very careers at risk due to Fauci's power. They've been doing it to any scientist that disputes climate change models, to the point of even firing editors that allow varying opinions. I'm not saying scientists are bad, just the opposite. Good Scientists are being stifled by a small powerful few within their leagues.
Here an expose of Dr Fauci ; **** floats as we say . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq2uuHfmq8k
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BDrizz , Apr 30 2020 2:09 utc | 92
These lockdowns have ended life as we know it, no matter which position you take. I do think it has been a mistake not to quarantine nursing homes, ltc facilities, hospitals, etc.. Including the docs, nurses, workers. Those are the vectors & 50% of covid deaths could have been prevented, esp in NY, like that. At year-end, we can look at all-cause mortalities trends, see how this year stacks up. I hope these measures make sense given the extreme poverty, violence, death they will cause. There will be no permanent vaccine, they've been trying w/Coronav's for a long time. This thing is a fact of life going forward. It will mutate like any other cold or flu. Are we going to shut down & go Orwell every time it pops up? We're f'ed.
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fairleft , Apr 30 2020 0:43 utc | 80
Neil Ferguson hasn't been part of b's coronavirus narrative, but his bad statistics (he has a history) are key to the whole story. Great opinion piece by R.R. Reno :"On March 16, Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London predicted a coronavirus death toll of more than two million in the United States alone. He arrived at this number by assuming that infection would be nearly universal and the fatality rate would be high -- a terrifying prospect. The next day, Stanford epidemiologist John Ioannidis sifted through the data and predicted less widespread infection and a fatality rate of between 0.05 and 1.0 percent -- not that different from the common flu. The coronavirus is not the common flu. It has different characteristics, afflicting the old more than the young, men more than women. Nevertheless, all data trends since mid-March show that Ferguson was fantastically wrong and Ioannidis was largely right about its mortal threat. [fairleft: Reno goes too far here: data indicates Covid-19 is worse than the flu for the vulnerable, possibly much worse depending on age and the severity of their vulnerability.]
"But Ferguson's narrative has triumphed, helped by our incontinent and irresponsible media. ...
"Our entire ruling class, which united behind catastrophism and the untested methods of mass shutdown, is implicated in the unfolding fiasco.
"Journalists continue to sustain the pandemic narrative. Ioannidis is still ignored, though the evidence I outlined above has been building for weeks. ..."
[[U of Oxford prediction: "Taking account of historical experience, trends in the data, increased number of infections in the population at largest, and potential impact of misclassification of deaths gives a presumed estimate for the COVID-19 IFR somewhere between 0.1% and 0.36%." All studies so far are flawed and not all are within that range, but here are basically ALL of them, which generally point to the Oxford prediction being about right:
NYC shopping center: 0.6%
Santa Clara County: 0.1 - 0.2%
LA County: 0.1 - 0.3%
Oise, France high school: 0.0%
Gangelt, Germany: 0.37%
Bergamo, Italy: 0.57%
Lombardio, Italy: 0.87%
Iceland: 0.05%
UK: 0.9%
China: 0.66%
Boston homeless shelter: 0.0%
US Navy ship: 0.07% ]]R.R. Reno concludes:
"We've been stampeded into a regime of social control that is unprecedented in our history. Our economy has been shattered.... As unemployment numbers skyrocket and Congress spends trillions, the political stakes rise.
"The experts, professionals, bureaucrats, and public officials who did this to us have tremendous incentives to close ranks and say, 'It is not wise to tell people that the danger was never grave and now has passed.' Sustaining the coronavirus narrative will require many lies. It will be up to us to insist on the truth."
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Graham Peppercorn , Apr 30 2020 4:08 utc | 107
I cannot suggest more strongly for anyone seeking the truth about this Corona Virus that you HAVE to listen to an interview with Dr Mikovits who had originally worked on the discovery of the Aids Virus and who was bullied and threatened by Fauci. YOU HAVE TO listen to this Scientist!!!I am NOT connected to this site in any way but I think this interview HAS to spread throughout the World because this Scientist knows what she is talking about. AND, it is very scary.
https://www.trunews.com/stream/edward-s-interview-of-dr-judy-mikovits-mp4
james , Apr 30 2020 4:43 utc | 108
dr... mikovits.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_MikovitsPeppercron , Apr 30 2020 10:58 utc | 130...This interview with Dr Mikovits tells us what this is all about and why Fauci cannot be trusted. Only goes for 15 mins. But this is the most damning insight yet to be shared on the CVhttps://www.trunews.com/stream/edward-s-interview-of-dr-judy-mikovits-mp4
Apr 26, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
Colonel Lang sent me an eye opening link last night concerning the Hunter Holmes McGuire VA hospital in Richmond. Here are some excerpts from the Richmond Times-Dispatch article.-- -- -- --
As of Thursday, 23 employees at the 4,000-employee VA hospital, had tested positive, according to an update the hospital director emailed to employees. Another 45 employees are home awaiting test results. The hospital declined to say how many of the employees who are positive or are awaiting results are nurses, or name which parts of the hospital they work in.
Three VA nurses said they were given N95 respirators for several days early in the crisis in March, but after that they were given surgical masks, which provide less protection from the coronavirus. Another nurse reported wearing only a surgical mask the entire time caring for coronavirus patients. The nurses, who work in a unit that treats COVID-19 positive patients or patients awaiting test results who are suspected to be positive, spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to news media and their job security could be at risk if they spoke publicly.
The hospital had 73 confirmed coronavirus cases among patients as of Friday, and four inpatient deaths. "Currently every health care system is taking steps to conserve PPE. VA is no different," Hodge wrote in a series of responses by email to questions. Hodge also said that the hospital is issuing surgical masks to all staff who work in non-COVID-19 units. "Those staff are provided one surgical mask weekly to assist in protecting high-risk patients who are asymptomatic," he wrote. (Richmond Times-Dispatch)
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I'm not surprised by the numbers. Richmond, itself, is a virus hot spot although that is mostly due to several deadly assisted living/nursing home outbreaks. What shocks me is the PPE situation. The fact that nurses have to treat known Covid-19 patients with hospital masks rather than the N95 respirators is only moderately better than third world conditions in my view. Hospital masks offer the wearer no protection against the aerosolized virus. If the patients were wearing those masks, it would be more helpful than the nurses wearing them.
Here's a tip. If you can still smell odors like onions or bacon while wearing the mask, the aerosolized virus can get into your lungs. Hospital masks and other improvised masks protect those around the wearer, not the mask wearer. The concept behind the universal wearing of such masks is mutual protection. For any of you who spent time in the infantry, it's the same concept behind the DePuy fighting positions where you are not defending yourself. You are forming interlocking fields of fire to protect your comrades to the left and right of you. Protecting those around you actually provides the best protection for all of you. We wear masks in grocery stores and other such places to protect the entire community, not just our own sorry asses.
But back to the situation at McGuire. In the early days of the pandemic in America, the hospital instituted a screening program at the hospital entrances consisting of temperature and health interview. We were told to expect delays and to be given a mask for wear in the hospital. Not long after that, we were called to reschedule our appointments to May or beyond. By mid-April, this was the COVID-19 testing situation.
Since the number of COVID-19 tests are limited nationwide, there is no COVID-19 testing capability at our CBOC locations. Please call your provider to determine whether you would be a candidate for testing. If so, then you may proceed to the Hunter Holmes McGuire VA Medical Center in Richmond, Virginia where Monday – Friday, 8:30 a.m. – 1:00 p.m., a Drive-Thru Clinic is available for screening and testing (if you need it); you will be triaged according to your symptoms. Also, Monday – Friday, 8:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m., you may be directed to be seen in the medical center's High Consequence Infections (HCI) Clinic. Last, depending on your symptoms, you may go to the hospital's Emergency Department or to an Urgent Care Center or Emergency Department in your area.
McGuire seems to have had all its ducks in a row. It's what I expect. This VA medical center is well run. The professionalism, pride and morale among the staff is astoundingly high. It shows among us broke down old vets who show up for care. We are proud of McGuire. That this fine facility is now forced to ration out PPE to its staff is a travesty. The VA dropped the ball. The federal government dropped the ball for several administrations. PPE should have been stockpiled at all levels and those stockpiles should have been replenished by a push logistics system.
That's the long term screw up. In the more immediate term, the federal government should have been acquiring that PPE and forcing industry to massively produce supplies back in January. Trump should have invoked and used the Defense Production Act robustly in January rather than waiting until March and April to weakly wield that executive authority. Every hospital and every first responder should have had all the PPE needed. Every household could have been sent a dozen disposable masks with a note from President Trump telling us to keep these in case we need them. What a galvanizing message that would have sent across the nation. Even if Covid-19 proved to be a non-problem, it would have been a message of Churchillian defiance in the face of a potential threat. A missed opportunity for both the American people and Trump.
TTG
Terence Gore , 25 April 2020 at 01:16 PM
Sorry to read your post and hope everyone fares well. Many nursing homes may be in the same situation.Pj20 , 25 April 2020 at 02:19 PM"The proning and the high-flow nasal cannulas combined have brought patient oxygen levels from around 40% to 80% and 90%, so it's been fascinating and wonderful to see," Spiegel said."
Possibly positive news.It isn't just the VA, hospitals all over the country are short of PPE. And that is one of the problems with opening up the country too soon. Unprotected staff in suddenly flooded hospitals become ill themselves risking the viability of local health systems.JoeC100 , 25 April 2020 at 04:57 PMTTG -JohninMK , 25 April 2020 at 05:02 PMI read a while back that the key supply chain issue with N-95 masks is that their essential core material is a synthetic spun fiber that we are completely reliant on China for sourcing. In addition. the machines that make this fiber are complex, quite expensive and there is no capability to quickly and significantly ramp up their production. Further they are challenging to set up and operate.
And for perspective, of the 200 million masks China currently makes a day, only 600,000 are N95 standard masks, used by medical personnel,
So yet another "essential supply chain" item for a critical health system need that simply can't be ramped up out of this air.
Hopefully some one in the Federal system is looking for all similar needs and working on a plan to facilitate onshore manufacturing.
Full (scary/sobering) details are at: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/16/814929294/covid-19-has-caused-a-shortage-of-face-masks-but-theyre-surprisingly-hard-to-mak
I see this as a long term "lack of US preparedness" problem vs. something that could have been easily addressed if the administration had moved a couple on months earlier..
We have the same problems here in the UK. With people, mainly it seems like in the MSM, blaming the Government's leadership for the supply issues.Bobo , 25 April 2020 at 07:01 PMIgnoring totally the management of our respective national health organizations who knew, at the latest in mid January, that there was probably a nasty contagious problem coming down the tracks, that would, based on already clear Chinese actions, need more PPE than was on their shelves.
Bear in mind that, in the UK at least, hundreds of these NHS bureaucrats earn twice what a Government minister earns and a few twice the PM's salary. In both nations they have failed their people dismally, seemingly like rabbits trapped in the headlights. None will be punished of course for failure, they are just pleased that the Government steps up and takes the blame.
Then we have the academics and think tank personnel. All accepted as impartial and offering honest opinions based on state of the art models. Again the Governments take what they are offered as gospel and acts on it. Only to discover that the models are more of the garbage in garbage out variety, not fit for purpose. Then we find how much funding the impartial academics are receiving from potentially very interested parties, as there are $Bs at stake. In the UK there was a Pandemic 2016 exercise to check things out. Result everything in NHS under control. In the real world under four years later, a shambles. Did you have a similar last autumn?
The real heroes and heroines in this saga are the doctors, nurses and their support and ancillary staff who are actually at the sharp end. Many working in appallingly unsafe conditions. Hats off to them.
For 200 plus years our hospitals utilized laundries to cleanse their medical protection gear (PPE) until the advent of synthetic PPE. The present generation is taught to utilize the N95 mask and other gear once and then trash it. This was derived as a manner in reducing Sepsis and MRSA in hospitals and an effective one though those diseases are still present.optimax , 25 April 2020 at 11:00 PM
Our hearts went out to these young medical personnel without the plastic masks and gear as they were working outside of what they were taught and they were much more susceptible to the Covid-19.
Now we all saw every Chinaman walking around Wuhan with a N-95 mask in January and unfortunately those were our masks that were re-routed to the Chinese people. Hopefully we have now learned a very hard lesson that Just in Time Inventory does not work for medical diseases or viruses and that the USA needs to manufacture all PPE and medicine in the USA amongst other things.
Regarding the political implications I can only say that the guy in the hot seat made things happen when the chips were down something his predecessors nor his competitor had/have the ability to do in a timely manner. Coercion worked.Much of the federal stockpile of PPE sent to the states had passed their expire dates, 2010 for some, and was either useless or had to be repaired. I blame the failure on the person, or persons, charged with monitoring the wharehoused stockpiles. The president only knows what he's told. He can't micromanage the nation. He needs Jack Webb directing him to stick with the facts.We have two groups of psychopaths vying for political power.
https://time.com/5815652/national-stockpile-medical-supplies-unusable/
elaine, 26 April 2020 at 12:58 AM
I read somewhere the V.A. ordered the masks but F.E.M.A expropriated them on the directions of Jared Kushner, who will later decide who receives the masks...something about the National Emergency Stockpile...what a mess.
Apr 21, 2020 | www.lewrockwell.com
It is becoming clearer with each passing day that the death toll from the Wuhan virus is not rising exponentially as the "experts" predicted but only modestly in some places while levelling off or even declining almost everywhere else in the country -- as well as the world . The incidence of infection borders on nil in the hot and humid countries, where the number of deaths remains in the double or very low triple digits four months after the virus emerged from the Wuhan province of China.
Common sense alone indicates that the number of deaths will ultimately be nowhere near the 2 million without "mitigation" or a best case 100,000 to 240,000 with "mitigation" as predicted by "Tony and Deborah" at the White House press briefings that have fueled nationwide panic. Tony and Deb have since revised their "models" downward to predict 40,000 to 178,000 deaths. And that prediction has already been lowered again as the IMHE model Tony and Deb have been touting during the briefings now "predicts" 81,766 deaths by August 4. That prediction would require some 18,000 people to die every month between now and then, even though at 10,000 deaths since February 29 -- a number consistent with a heavy flu season -- we appear to have reached the peak and a decline is already evident .
At some point, Tony and Deb will be "predicting" precisely what has already happened, as we saw with the "models" that first predicted Hillary Clinton was certain to win the Presidency. And when the final death toll fails even to approach what they first predicted in order to panic the whole country into a nationwide lockdown never before seen in human history, they will make the unprovable, non-falsifiable, junk science claim that "mitigation worked."
But it is becoming increasingly clear that "mitigation" has done nothing but cause a pointless, catastrophic disruption of social and economic life. This seems to delight the lying media and their Democrat partners, who are striving to keep fear alive, avoid or minimize any good news about the numbers, overstate the burden on local hospitals (without any unedited video or other reliable evidence), argue against curative treatment by hydroxychloroquine or otherwise, get everybody into masks after months of "expert" advice that masks are ineffective, and generally prolong the economic damage and loss of civil liberties for months to come.
As the actual numbers belie the pseudo-scientific prophecies of doom, however, the lockdown of America that began with Democrat governors and mayors now exhibits a curious and hardly coincidental fissure along party lines. As of today, nine states, all headed by Republican governors, refuse to join the lockdown regime and now provide embarrassing counterfactuals demonstrating that officially mandated lockdowns were never necessary and have probably made the situation worse by preventing the development of "herd immunity" to this virus, like all the others, from the normal interaction of large populations.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/lGC5sGdz4kg?wmode=transparent
The following are the nine states that have refused to impose lockdowns. All of them have minimal death tolls from the Wuhan virus, including the populous South Carolina, and five of them have not enacted even local lockdowns:
- Arkansas – 14 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
- Iowa – 14 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
- Nebraska – 8 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
- North Dakota – 3 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
- Oklahoma – 42 deaths.
- South Carolina – 40 deaths.
- South Dakota – 2 deaths. No statewide or local lockdowns.
- Utah – 8 deaths.
- Wyoming – 0 deaths.
[Data as of this writing on April 6 at 9 p.m.]
Gov. Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas told the Fake News New York Times what we have been saying on these pages since the stupid lockdowns began: "the typical stay-at-home order was a misleading 'illusion' because it includes so many exemptions allowing people to go out in public, such as for groceries or exercise ordering people to stay at home would simply leave thousands jobless."
The Times demands to know why these nine states have seceded from the United States of Mitigation: "Holdout States Resist Calls for Stay-at-Home Orders: 'What Are You Waiting For?' screams the indignant headline. Editorial desperation leaps from the page, for the Fake News combine as a whole knows that these nine Republican-led holdout states are all counterfactual to the panic narrative, and that what they are waiting for is the rest of the country to discover that they have been had by the cheerleaders of "mitigation," who live in luxury and job security while the masses suffer. First and foremost, Deb and Tony, intimate associates of Bill Gates, whose "models" keep lowering predictions to catch up with the growing embarrassment of the real numbers.
Another embarrassing counterfactual is the Commonwealth of Virginia, now being suffocated by Democrat Governor Ralph ("Infanticide") Northam's absurd executive orders, which have ruined the state's economy while attempting to place its entire population under a fake quarantine that does nothing but create instant unemployment and bankruptcy. The Northam lockdown will remain in effect until June 10 unless Northam calculates he cannot get away with prolonging his virus-themed dictatorship past Trump's new control date of April 30. Yet, as of the week of March 28, the Virginia Department of Health "has received report of 1,352 pneumonia and influenza-associated deaths," including five pediatric deaths, during the 2019-20 flu season, while purported deaths from the Wuhan virus and related pneumonia stand at 54 as of today at 9 p.m., with no pediatric deaths.
Based on the example of Virginia alone, which provides an all-but-irrefutable counterfactual, it is time to call this fiasco what it is: Coronagate. In my view, Coronagate will go down as the single biggest fraud in the fraud-ridden history of American politics -- outside of the fraudulent inducement of America's belated entry into World War I, which sacrificed 116,000 American lives to an epochal disaster that destroyed the last remnants of Christendom, guaranteed World War II, and led to the rise of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.
Meanwhile, the White House press briefings have devolved into a black comedy with the same script every day: Trump recites a litany of statistics on the number of COVID-19 tests performed, the mass production and distribution of ventilators and N95 respirators, surgical masks, surgical gowns and surgical gloves; praises the captains of industry for pitching in with massive contributions of product; and lauds the branches of the military for their massive logistical operations, including the building of entire hospitals that remain almost empty.
Pence then delivers another sermon on how to "slow the spread in 30 days." Then Deb drones on about her ever-evolving models, followed by a very hoarse Tony, who croaks the same statements he made the day before about "the curve" and "mitigation, mitigation, mitigation" while assiduously avoiding any suggestion that the "pandemic" could be over any time soon or that there could be any proven effective treatment.
Then it's the media jackals' turn. Day after day these morons jabber at Trump with accusations disguised as questions: Why has governor so-and-so or such-and-such hospital not received enough test kits/ventilators/masks/gowns/gloves/breath mints?
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At today's briefing, one reporter attempted to elicit from Fauci a declaration that, no matter what Trump might think, America cannot "return to normal" without a vaccine whose development is, conveniently enough for the media-DNC complex, at least a year away. Fauci's meandering response was a dog whistle that, if he has anything to say about it, the country will remain under some level of lockdown until there is a largely ineffective or even harmful vaccine, like the one he advocated for the swine flu of 2009.
The Fake News media are laboring to elevate Fauci, a star in the Leftist galaxy whose center is Bill Gates, to the status of Recovery Czar whose "medical opinion" will determine the fate of the nation
Apr 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
hopehely , Apr 19 2020 18:19 utc | 54
Posted by: vk | Apr 19 2020 17:49 utc | 53
NY has 8.4 million inhabitants - in an 302.6 square miles area.
Singapore has 5.6 million inhabitants in 280.2 square miles area.
Discipline, competence and sound management do matter.
Apr 20, 2020 | www.rt.com
The US is the biggest funder of the World Health Organization and his announcement drew widespread criticism. Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, whose foundation was the second-biggest funder of the WHO in 2018-19, called the decision " as dangerous as it sounds ."
Halting funding for the World Health Organization during a world health crisis is as dangerous as it sounds. Their work is slowing the spread of COVID-19 and if that work is stopped no other organization can replace them. The world needs @WHO now more than ever.
-- Bill Gates (@BillGates) April 15, 2020Trump also faces a battle with Congress, which is actually responsible for allocating funding. I'm not a fan of Trump, but to some extent he has a point.
There have been plenty of critics of the WHO's handling of the outbreak. The organization's initial response is now seen as far too accepting of the official Chinese government line in the first few weeks. In particular, a single social media message has come back to haunt it. On January 14, the organization said on Twitter: " Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China. "
Defenders of the WHO point to guidance sent to governments on January 10 and 11, outlining the way the virus spreads and asking health officials to be alert to any 'evidence of amplified or sustained human-to-human transmission.' Those WHO supporters also note that Trump himself had tweeted support for Beijing's handling of the situation in the early days of the outbreak. For many observers, Trump's attacks on the WHO are self-serving, designed to deflect criticism away from his initially slow and skeptical response to what he calls the "Chinese virus."
While the WHO was perhaps too slow on the uptake, we should be wary of critics' implication that it should be given the job of policing national governments. For now, the WHO is in an awkward position of having to deal with the politics of different member countries while responding to health emergencies. Moreover, the WHO 'cried wolf' over the 2009 swine flu pandemic. The WHO's director general at the time, Margaret Chan, famously said " All of humanity is under threat " from the outbreak, but it proved to be far less deadly than feared. A bit more caution over the new coronavirus was probably sensible.
Apr 20, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org
From California to New Jersey, Americans are protesting in the streets. They are demanding an end to house arrest orders given by government officials over a virus outbreak that even according to the latest US government numbers will claim fewer lives than the seasonal flu outbreak of 2017-2018.
Across the US, millions of businesses have been shut down by "executive order" and the unemployment rate has skyrocketed to levels not seen since the Great Depression. Americans, who have seen their real wages decline thanks to Federal Reserve monetary malpractice, are finding themselves thrust into poverty and standing in breadlines. It is like a horror movie, but it's real.
Last week the UN Secretary General warned that a global recession resulting from the worldwide coronavirus lockdown could cause "hundreds of thousands of additional child deaths per year." As of this writing, less than 170,000 have been reported to have died from the coronavirus worldwide.
Many Americans have also died this past month because they were not able to get the medical care they needed. Cancer treatments have been indefinitely postponed. Life-saving surgeries have been put off to make room for coronavirus cases. Meanwhile hospitals are laying off thousands because the expected coronavirus cases have not come and the hospitals are partially empty.
What if the "cure" is worse than the disease?
Apr 19, 2020 | www.unz.com
Linh Dinh , says: Website Show Comment April 13, 2020 at 7:20 pm GMT
@Alfa158 Fauci: 'No doubt' Trump will face surprise infectious disease outbreak
healio.com , January 11, 2017Anthony S. Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said there is "no doubt" Donald J. Trump will be confronted with a surprise infectious disease outbreak during his presidency.
Fauci has led the NIAID for more than 3 decades, advising the past five United States presidents on global health threats from the early days of the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s through to the current Zika virus outbreak.
During a forum on pandemic preparedness at Georgetown University, Fauci said the Trump administration will not only be challenged by ongoing global health threats such as influenza and HIV, but also a surprise disease outbreak.
"The history of the last 32 years that I have been the director of the NIAID will tell the next administration that there is no doubt they will be faced with the challenges their predecessors were faced with," he said.
While observers have speculated since his election about how Trump will respond to such challenges, Fauci and other health experts said Tuesday that preventing disease pandemics often starts overseas and that a proper response means collaboration between not only the U.S. and other countries, but also the public and private health sectors.
"We will definitely get surprised in the next few years," he said. 'Risks have never been higher'
Trump, the real estate developer-turned-Republican politician, has worried some infectious disease experts with controversial and sometimes unclear views on certain health issues.
Ronald Klain, who coordinated the U.S.'s Ebola response for the Obama administration, said Trump's virtual silence about the Zika outbreak and harsh comments about American volunteers infected during the West African Ebola outbreak is "not the kind of leadership we need in our next president."
Experts speculated about the infectious disease threats Donald Trump will face as president.
"It's hard to think of a more important time to show a willingness to speak out in the public health community and the global health community than it is right now on the eve of Donald Trump becoming our next president," Klain said. "The risks have never been higher, and the question of his perspective on these issues has never been more dubious than it is with Donald Trump."
Fauci and others noted some of the disease outbreaks that recent administrations have faced, including current President Barack Obama, whose administration was tested early on with an H1N1 influenza pandemic in 2009. More recently, the administration was forced to repurpose almost $600 million in federal funds set aside for the Ebola outbreak when Republicans rejected Obama's request for $1.9 billion to fund the nation's Zika response.
Current Deputy Homeland Security Advisor Amy Pope, JD, said it was "typical" of the U.S. government that money meant for the Ebola epidemic was appropriated for Zika because of the proclivity of populations to worry about what is currently threatening them.
"We shouldn't ask the American public to make those choices in the future," she said. "It doesn't keep them safe."
Klain said pandemic preparedness should be approached from a nonpartisan angle. A Democrat, he referenced Republican President George W. Bush founding the U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), and said Republican Senators Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham collaborated with the Obama administration on the Ebola response.
"The mosquitoes don't know if they're biting Democrats or Republicans," Klain said. "They don't know what party you are."
Other highlights
According to some of the experts who spoke on Tuesday, preparing the U.S. for pandemics requires proper funding and starts by battling disease outbreaks overseas. This is not just the right thing to do, but the best way to keep Americans safe, Klain said.
"There is no safety for us and our populace when infectious diseases rage," he said. "The only way the American people can have safety and security in their lives is to promote safety and security around the world."
Some other highlights from the forum:
Hamid Jafari, MD, acting director of the Division of Global Health Protection at the CDC, said the CDC has been productive during past presidential transitions and expects the same will be true as control of the White House passes from Obama to Trump: "We have room for optimism that there will be continuing support," he said.
Pope said there is no playbook for fighting emerging infectious diseases: "We never know what's going to hit us, so we need to be prepared as possible," she said.
According to Pope, some in the health community are wary about working with the security community because they think it will be detrimental to their work, when the opposite is true: "Marrying these communities actually leads to more resources and more attention," she said.
Bill Steiger, PhD, chief program officer of Pink Ribbon Red Ribbon and former director of the HHS Office of Global Health Affairs, said his first piece of advice for the incoming administration would be to budget time for HHS to focus on things other than domestic health issues, because a larger problem is inevitable: "Some international global health crisis will happen that will divert that attention. It has happened over and over again," he said.
Steiger said the global health agenda, including programs like PEPFAR, is an "easy win" for the new administration: "Expand the funding if available, but at a minimum keep it going," he said.
Fauci said he is in favor of a public health emergency fund that would be used to combat outbreaks like those involving Ebola and Zika: "It's tough to get it but we need it. What we had to go through with Zika was very, very painful when the president asked for $1.9 billion in February and we didn't get [funding] until September."
Near the end, Fauci speculated about the possibility that there will be a resurgence of Zika this summer. The virus has caused many travel-related cases in the U.S. and some locally acquired cases in Florida and Texas. Fauci said other concerns for the Trump administration include the potential for a new influenza pandemic and outbreaks of diseases that are not yet on anyone's radar.
"What about the things we are not even thinking about?" he said. "No matter what, history has told us definitively that [outbreaks] will happen because [facing] infectious diseases is a perpetual challenge. It is not going to go away. The thing we're extraordinarily confident about is that we're going to see this in the next few years." – by Gerard Gallagher
Disclosures: Fauci, Jafari and Pope report no relevant financial disclosures. Infectious Disease News was unable to confirm relevant financial disclosures for Klain and Steiger at the time of publication.
Apr 19, 2020 | twitter.com
MARK SIMONE 5:50 PM - 18 Apr 2020
Don't blame FOX, Mr. Fake News CNN. On March 9th, Dr. Anthony Fauci recommended taking a cruise, telling Forbes Magazine that if you're healthy, cruise ships are safe: https://www. forbes.com/sites/douggoll an/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/amp/ https:// twitter.com/oliverdarcy/st atus/1251615953978306564
Apr 19, 2020 | www.rt.com
Donald Trump slammed Democrats for a "rude and nasty" phone call with the vice president over the Covid-19 pandemic, and theorized nothing will satisfy them as they try to "fool" America in November's election.
"No matter what you do for the Do Nothing Democrats, no matter how GREAT a job you are doing, they will only respond to their Fake partners in the Lamestream Media in the negative, even in a time of crisis," Trump tweeted on Saturday.
He added that his working relationship with Democrats during the Covid-19 pandemic has been "even worse" than before and revealed senators held a "rude and nasty" conference call with Vice President Mike Pence, who heads the White House Coronavirus Task Force, on Friday where little progress was made.
"He gave them everything that they would have wanted to hear in terms of gaining ground on the CoronaVirus, but nothing that anyone could have said, including 'it's over,' could have made them happy," the president vented.
"They were RUDE and NASTY. This is their political playbook, and they will use it right up to the election on November 3rd," he continued, adding that "America will not be fooled!!!"
No matter what you do for the Do Nothing Democrats, no matter how GREAT a job you are doing, they will only respond to their Fake partners in the Lamestream Media in the negative, even in a time of crisis. I thought it would be different, but it's not. In fact, it's even worse...
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 18, 2020....them happy, or even a little bit satisfied. They were RUDE and NASTY. This is their political playbook, and they will use it right up to the election on November 3rd. They will not change because they feel that this is the only way they can win. America will not be fooled!!!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 18, 2020Some lawmakers have expressed just as much animosity over the talk as the president. Maine Sen. Angus King (I) said he has "never been so mad about a phone call" in his life.
A point of contention appears to be Trump's desire to begin rolling back stay-at-home orders and reopening the US economy next month, while many Democrats insist more Covid-19 testing must be done first.
Also on rt.com 'We're being held hostage!' Minnesota governor eases coronavirus lockdown after angry outcry from #ReopenMN protestersSen. Maggie Hassan (D-New Hampshire) tweeted after the call that she is concerned "the administration still doesn't have a plan to track daily testing capacity in every lab in the country, publicly release that data, and put forward a plan and timeline for identifying gaps."
Various governors, such as New York's Andrew Cuomo, continue to insist more thorough testing and tracing of the virus is needed before they consider reopening their states and easing back lockdown orders, while places like Texas, Minnesota, and Florida have already begun dropping restrictions as more and more citizens take to demonstrating and protesting against the measures.
Also on rt.com 'Fire Fauci, let us work': No social distancing as Alex Jones joins hundreds in rally against Covid-19 lockdown measures in Texas
Apr 19, 2020 | www.washingtonpost.com
More than a dozen U.S. researchers, physicians and public health experts, many of them from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, were working full time at the Geneva headquarters of the World Health Organization as the novel coronavirus emerged late last year and transmitted real-time information about its discovery and spread in China to the Trump administration, according to U.S. and international officials.
A number of CDC staffers are regularly detailed to work at WHO in Geneva as part of a rotation that has operated for years. Senior Trump-appointed health officials also consulted regularly at the highest levels with the WHO as the crisis unfolded, the officials said.
The presence of so many U.S. officials undercuts President Trump's charge that the WHO's failure to communicate the extent of the threat, born of a desire to protect China, is largely responsible for the rapid spread of the virus in the United States.
Saggy April 19, 2020 at 1:54 pm GMT
What a great paragaph – summary ..
There is hope. The coronavirus crisis has exposed the relative merits of nations, so the entire world can see, for example, how broken and corrupt the US is, with no leadership to speak of. Dawdling, it failed to prevent needless deaths, then shut down much of the country, bankrupting thousands of businesses and throwing millions out of work. As a fix, it throws mere crumbs at desperate citizens, while bailing out the big banks, again.
Apr 19, 2020 | www.rt.com
Texans flocked to the state's Capitol in Austin to protest Covid-19 lockdown measures, refusing to practice social distancing and cheering for Dr. Anthony Fauci to be fired by President Donald Trump. In attendance at Saturday's 'You Can't Close America' Rally were InfoWars founder Alex Jones and host Owen Shroyer, who led the crowd of some 200 people in chants against the mainstream media and officials like Fauci.
Shroyer, who referred to the doctor as "fascist Fauci," asked the crowd: "Do you think Anthony Fauci should be fired?" , before leading them in chants of "Fire Fauci."
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Jen , Apr 18 2020 21:40 utc | 65
Peter AU 1 @ 46, James @ 52:Parts of that Wired.com story read like a stenographed PR release so I am not sure really what to make of it. The story seems to make light of the safety breaches that were occurring at the Fort Detrick lab. While it is likely that most breaches (apart from the waste disposal issue and the use of chemical rather than thermal treatment of waste) appeared to be minor OHS-type breaches and appropriate staff training was all that was required, I did get an impression while reading the article that the CDC had its arms twisted to grant re-accreditation to the facility due to pressure from the White House to get a vaccine ready in time before November this year.
Bemildred , Apr 18 2020 21:43 utc | 66
Some interesting bits:Coronavirus testing delayed by contamination at US government lab, report says
Cheap gas is back:
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WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED?
Collective tragedy is always a learning experience. So it has been for great wars, natural disasters, economic collapses, political revolutions. The COVID-19 pandemic is such a tragedy. Although the number of casualties may pale compared to the carnage of war, there are ancillary effects that leave us shocked and sobered. Most obviously, there is sudden onset of a severe economic depression with attendant social distress whose toll we will be registering for years to come. Then, there is the exposure of how incompetent our public institutions have become – the callous inhumanity of those who rule in Washington matched only by their clownish ineptitude. It is in the realm of these latter intangibles that we should look first for morals and lessons.
Overriding all else is the spectacle of a President, duly elected by the American people, who is a malicious psychopath with not a single redeeming trait. A physical, intellectual and emotional spectre who would defy our imaginative powers were he not on display before our eyes. He has gathered around him a witch's coven of scoundrels, crooks and crackpots as bereft of mind and ethics as he is. They also are inveterate liars; Trump himself is a congenital liar since clinical narcissism is inborn. Yet, we refer to this motley assemblage as an 'administration' – in our impulse to 'normalize' the abominable. No dry bill of particulars is necessary, nor could it do justice, to the squalid theater we see played out before us on a daily basis. This man, at this moment, is viewed favorably by 46% of the public. That reality eclipses everything else.
There is no organized opposition worthy of the name. This is the second great failure of our democracy. The Democratic Party creaks under the weight of geriatric nominal leaders – plodding along without conviction, without will, without the integrity to free itself from the monied interests and the self-serving careerists who have dragged it into the mire. Yes, they may succeed, come November, in sparing the Republic the coup de grace of four more Trumpian years. This despite their suicidal instinct in choosing Joe Biden to bear the standard – a man barely robust enough to keep the banner from dragging in the dust on his slog along the campaign trail. This bunch can't even get themselves to a microphone for a news clip at a time of historic crisis aggravated by the atrocious sins of the existing government. Surely, a first. Worried about Covid-19 contagion? Order a box of alcohol wipes from China. Instead, Biden makes a call to Trump for what both agree was a 'nice conversation.' What does that get him?
Cuomo has to placate Trump with soothing words – even at the expense of lying about how much aid New York actually received from Washington – since the lives of his people are at stake. For Biden, the opposite is true; avoiding soothing words is crucial since the November election is dependent on undercutting Trump and discrediting him.
Three, the United States is a poorly governed country. Manifest ineptitude in performing collective functions is by no means limited to Washington under Trump. It has become a feature of the institutional landscape. True, the Trumpites have launched a dedicated campaign to realize the anti-government fanatics' wet dream of disabling all public agencies. FEMA and Homeland Security are but the most glaring example of departments stocked with hacks capable only of crippling the organizations that they are supposed to direct. They even corrupted the Center for Disease Control. Its leaders, evidently eager to curry favor with the madman in the Oval Office, gave its stamp of approval to the unproven – and dangerous drug HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE that Trump's been promoting as the Silver Bullet to cure Covid-19. (April 4-6) Luckily, saner heads prevailed, or a conscience was pricked, and these panting spaniels withdrew the recommendation from their website.
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At local levels, just look at the condition of infrastructure, of pension funds – of public health. The extremity – and, frankly, the absurdity - of what's happening in the health sector is highlighted by what we see elsewhere in the world. Face masks, including ones that actually provide protection, are readily available throughout East Asia – and elsewhere. A personal anecdote: relatives in Tunisia are mailing me N95 masks which they purchased in their neighborhood pharmacies. Indeed, as of April 8, Tunisia had produced by their own resources, and distributed 30 million masks to a population of 11 million. The equivalent here would be 1 billion masks! (Minus the 1 million sent express to Israel by the Pentagon as a ritual gift of fealty.) In America, we are offered instructions on how to sew a (probably useless) mask out of discarded T-shirts. MAGA!! Hospital directors fire nurses who buy their own equipment out of concern that they will be upstaged and exposed as the callous, profit obsessed bozos they are. Yet, we blind ourselves to the realities of other nations – because to do so is embarrassing, because our so-called leaders are protecting their behinds, and because we compulsively retain our dogmatic faith in American superiority.*
The readiness of executives to do anything necessary to protect against exposure of their own failures or illicit actions has become commonplace within our institutions. The current Corona crisis puts that reality into the headlines – as with the despicable act of the Pentagon in dismissing summarily Captain Brett Crozier whose petition made known that his superiors were prepared to sacrifice his crew's lives to the imperative of hiding their own errors. Is this notion that 'anything goes except accountability' any different from Harvard's studied silence about its embrace of Jeffrey Epstein or its abrupt sacking of a professor who dared reveal that the President was sweeping under the academic rug rampant sexual abuses? We all have personal experience of similar stories.
As to the Crozier scandal, let's be clear: it is not a matter of ethics alone, but also of ability to meet critical obligations. In the event that the country found itself at war against a serious enemy, it is a dangerous liability to have in positions of command people like Secretary of Defense Mark Esper (hack lobbyist for Raytheon and the Aerospace Industries Association ), Naval Secretary Thomas Motly – who missed his calling as a political commissar in the old Red Army, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Miley and Chief of Naval Operations Mike Gilday who both are testament to the Peter Principle that determines promotion in today's military. They would either be washed out in the wake of gross failures, or continue to be albatrosses dragging out pointless missions like the 17 bemedaled but clueless U.S. generals who have proven so useless in Afghanistan. As it is, they seem unable to keep their warships from slamming into inanimate objects in placid waters.
Here are Motly's last remarks before riding off to join corporate boards: "The men and women of the Department of the Navy deserve a continuity of civilian leadership befitting our great Republic, and the decisive naval force that secures our way of life he acknowledged that he "lost situational awareness" during his address to the Roosevelt's crew." "There is no excuse, but perhaps a glimpse of understanding, and hopefully empathy. I am deeply sorry for some of the words and for how they spread across the media landscape like a wildfire." (The New York Times – ever twisting its hat with eyes averted in the presence of intimidating Presidential authority – features a long letter from Motly justifying his actions, 4/7. Only 3, 1 Republican, 2 Democrats, protested Crozier's mistreatment. Among the silent chorus were the 22/23 aspirants to the Democratic nomination who bored us stiff for fifteen months with their unceasing calls for "LEADERSHIP!" 'Profiles In Courage' is not a best-seller at the Capitol. Even Dr. Fauce doesn't have a copy.
Absence of accountability is incompatible with good governance. That is especially true in democracies where accountability is ultimately downwards. In a country like China, where accountability is primarily upward, the circle can be squared by the occasional resort to putting some miscreant up against the wall. We don't have that luxury. Here, it is only the weak, the indigent and the naïve who need fear punishment – of any kind. The powerful and well-connected worry less about a last cigarette than about their first.
In compiling a list of factors that have contributed to the drastic decline in the performance of American institutions, this parochialism figures prominently among them. We put up with levels of dereliction matched in the developed world only by Britain. Think of the debate over Medicare-for-All and like proposals. As alluded to in an earlier commentary, the best national medical insurance systems (as confirmed by the WHO and other independent bodies) are in Western Europe, Canada and Japan – France topping the list. Yet, their expenditure on those systems is only 2/3 of what we pay for our own ramshackle non-system. That fact is ignored. Instead, the political class agonizes over the specious issue of whether we can afford it. Joe Biden has pledged to veto any such plan on grounds that it would cost $35 trillion – or whatever number has floated into his fog-bound mind. This lethal combination of ignorance, dogmatism and fidelity to special interests has come to be a hallmark of how we approach government and the meeting of collective needs.
A full treatment of the several intertwined, mutually reinforcing elements that have led us along the path of decline is well beyond the limits of a brief commentary. A few, though, do deserve to be mentioned for what – one hopes – might be future reference. One is the 'privatization ' craze. It has become the preferred method for transferring public assets to private profiteers. The effects are degraded services, the loss of expertise in public bodies, the exploitation of workers and the abandonment of intelligent planning (ventilators anyone?). With the COVID-19 affair, we've reached the ultimate privatization: the Federal Reserve has hired BlackRock to conduct its operations on the bond market as the central component of its $4 trillion Quantitative Easing strategy (BlackRock itself being the dominant player on that market). The same effects have been produced by the swarm of hedge funds and private equity who are parasites feeding on the prostrate host that is the real economy and its dependents. American society celebrates, and empowers, these critters. Then there are the ' consultants ' – the locust hordes which our culture designates as vital contributors to the good works of government, of business, of universities, of charities, of sports teams, of hospitals, of failing marriages, of the US Army that puts guns in their hands. They, too, add to the toll on public competence and collective services.
Another anecdote: the city of Austin, Texas has hired a consulting firm to advise them on designs for a reconfiguration of the street that runs in front of the University of Texas. Should the sidewalks be 8' wide or 10' wide? Curbed or uncurbed? With bicycle racks or without? These matters evidently are beyond the competence of the city government, and of the University's 3,000 strong expert faculty.
'My Kingdom for a tape measure!' How about a 69-cent face mask?
*Consider this. During WW II, the Kaiser shipyard in Richmond, CA – along with its 17 counterparts - were able to construct 2,710 Liberty ships between 1941 and 1945 (an average of three ships every two days), In other words, it took each yard just twelve days to put a ship in the water. That was the work of Rosie the Riveter and her colleagues. Today, we struggle to produce a few thousand $1 face masks - much less reliable COVID-19 test kits. Of course, back then the country was led by responsible adults – not the bunch of clods and delinquents we're stuck with nowadays.
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Walter , Apr 17 2020 14:27 utc | 3Well and artfully crafted rant. I wish all rants were are cogent!Jose Garcia , Apr 17 2020 14:29 utc | 5The picture sketched? It seems to be a detailed description of.."collapse".
Wally thinks of the coyote and roadrunner...coyote runs off cliff, but falls only when he realizes that the ground has collapsed under himself.
For the moment...people, like 'b', are looking down...
What's next? QED
"film at 11" they used to say...
If this virus is not a nasty flu, then what is it? A plague? Similar in effect as the Black Death? Had 2 members of my family and a dear friend catch this thing. 2 of them suffered just 3 days of a fluctuating fever and cold symptoms. After that it disappeared. Only one, my aunt, in her early seventies, had to be put on a respirator. But is recovering well. Is it worth it to bring our economy to absolute devastation, where good people lose everything, end up destitute, having to live in the streets, with no where to go? \Seward , Apr 17 2020 14:30 utc | 6And rely on bureaucrats, our government, whether state or federal, Democrat or Republican or Socialist, for their daily bread? What about people with severe mental health, who need to be away from home, need a job to maintain their stability, now with no work or money, will fall off the deep end, even commit suicide because they have no where to turn? Is it worth it ? Everything we've been doing? Why in other periods in history, with similar diseases, nothing was shut down as profoundly as being done these days, and life went on? People did die, not to mock their passing. But it brings me back. If not a nasty flu, is it worth it?
Agree with #1. Our leader, as imperfect as he is, as we all are, is the only leader we have. If he fails to lead us through this crisis, we all fail. IMHO aside from occasional politic-ing, answering charges of one kind or another against him, often the opposite from day to day (e.g. one day he's trying to control everything, now he's abandoned control to the overwhelmed governors), is doing an acceptable job, considering the problems he;'s facing.M , Apr 17 2020 14:33 utc | 7
Hello,Trisha , Apr 17 2020 14:40 utc | 8Couldn't agree more with Don in comment 1, the newfound lust for censorship and evangelism for official right think found here is disappointing, this seems no longer to be a place to ask questions and seek truth sincerely.
Thank you and good bye,
M
What is now obvious has for a long time been concealed: the U.S. is not a democracy, there is no such thing as a "free market", capitalism has proved incapable of meeting the most basic needs during a crisis, there are no leaders accountable to anyone other than our ruling oligarchs, the U.S. is anything but a "bastion of freedom", and most other nations have plenty of justifiable reasons to hate the U.S.gm , Apr 17 2020 14:43 utc | 9The only question remaining is how long will folks in the U.S. hide from these truths and do nothing about them?
@ Don Wills | Apr 17 2020 14:14 utc | 1TG , Apr 17 2020 14:44 utc | 10I agree this is ridiculous. Trump may be a lot of things, but the last thing he would EVER want to do/happen in this election year where was cruising along home-free, is to have this horrible pandemic blow up in front of him.
Also, he would NEVER have taken along and risked his entire family on a useless state visit to India where all they did was attend meaningless photo-op events and watch Indian kids dance the Hindi cha-cha.
Not even his chief of staff Mike Mulvaney went alond (unheard-of for CoS to not accompany a potus on official state visits).
This tells me Trump was (kept?) in the dark about true depth of pandemic risk brewing.
A fine rant. Well said.bevin , Apr 17 2020 14:45 utc | 11An honest economist (back in the day when there actually were still a few) once said that the key to a nation is whether it ruled by an establishment, or an oligarchy.
An "establishment" is old-money connected etc., but has some sense of ownership and duty. An establishment is willing to forgo short-term profits in favor of long-term strength, because they expect that they or their heirs will be around to have a piece of it. "Establishment" leaders would be FDR, Eisenhower, DeGaulle, Bismarck, Lee Kuan Yew...
An [neoliberal] "oligarchy" has no interest in the long-term prosperity and strength of the nation - or perhaps, they simply have no faith in it. They are motivated to strip-mine the nation of all wealth while it lasts, because if they don't someone else will. They can live in walled compounds and go to private doctors, and if it all falls apart they can just gather up their loot and sail away on their yachts.
Very good. I particularly liked:" ..We put up with levels of dereliction matched in the developed world only by Britain..."See below link for example https://www.rt.com/op-ed/486065-uk-care-homes-disregard/
As to Jose Garcia@5 any decent community would do all that it could to save the lives of its members.
krypton , Apr 17 2020 14:48 utc | 12
For Trump, Brenner can thank the silver-tongued Obama and his murderous secretary of state, both of whom are worst kind of liars - the kind that tell people what they want to hear while doing the opposite.Eighthman , Apr 17 2020 14:59 utc | 14Thank you for posting this. The US seems to be like coming to your home and finding Bigfoot seated in a living room chair - with no one expressing any surprise or even interest in his presence.Susan , Apr 17 2020 15:00 utc | 15After all the agony and hysteria surrounding the election of Trump for 3 years, they will nominate an elderly warmonger with obvious signs of dementia, who can't seem to keep his hands off women in a creepy fashion - as the alternative. It's as if there was a contest on how extreme a "lesser of two evils" can get. Tack on Covid and financial ruin. It's astounding.
The only positives I can find are evidence that the elite aren't totally in control ( or there would be no Biden or Trump running) AND that the US is too big and dominant to collapse anytime soon - a sort of geo-political inertia. Same goes for the dollar, even if they turn it into high grade toilet paper.
This is the first time I have commented on your site but read daily. This is one of the best reads I have seen. It defines the failure of the country so clearly, to bad Don was unable to hear the criticism of his fearless leader and move beyond it. This failure has long roots and the writer nails it. I remember a few years back sitting down with our commissioner and having her explain to us why they were getting nothing done. city and state moneys were lower and the federal government that had always provided grants no longer did. This was under Obummer.oglalla , Apr 17 2020 15:06 utc | 17The long strip mining of the US and the rest of the world by the elite should have made itself completely obvious under trump but I am beginning to think that we humans are no more than a plague upon the earth. We seem to be so intent on sticking to our team the Rs or Ds we are no different then sports fans, who's obsessed behavior and willingness to spend thousands to watch sports is mind boggling, when often the same people bitch about teachers pay.
Or during the healthcare debates I went to hear the town hall that my congressmen had. 2000 people showed up most screaming about Obama and free hand outs. The 2000 people where mostly over 65, and in this case military so all these people had theirs but didn't think their own kids or grandkids should have medical care.. what the hell! The Republican Party built the montra of evil government well and the Democratic Party used it the build up the pentagon to the point it takes over 70% of the discretionary budget, to slaughter people in 3rd world countries so we can strip mine them or threaten Russia and China . The virus shows one thing the elites have lots of money to build military stuff that they fleece , so what we have is crap. What the poor soldiers in this country are is fodder for the wealthy.
lol. - Some partisans mount a partisan defense of Trump. I didn't know such incredibly partisan dummies read MoA. You guys are more than welcome to leave.foolisholdman , Apr 17 2020 15:11 utc | 18Something occurred to me this afternoon.Et Tu , Apr 17 2020 15:15 utc | 19Thinking about the Covid-19, it occurred to me that the governments of the UK, the USA, of Canada and probably many other countries that have had biological warfare labs have all said to their people "We have to do this research because the USSR, the Russians The Chinese, The North Koreans or thr Terrorists may use biological/chemical weapons against us and WE MUST BE PREPARED!!. If they were telling the truth they should have been well prepared as they have spent billions on this research. So, now we can see they were lying because, THERE WAS NO PREPARATION WHEN IT WAS NEEDED? Precisely NONE!
Come this epidemic and what do we see? What we see is that at least the UK government, the US government and the Canadian government were lying. It is quite clear that they were NOT expecting to be attacked. How do I know they were not expecting to be attacked? They had NO stores of hand sanitizer, NO stores of masks, NO goggles, NO stores of PPE, No factories for making any of them. NO troops of Bio/Chem warfare soldiers ready to spring into action and NO PLANS, as far as I can see. Are we to assume that if they were attacked by, say, the Russians, they were going to rely on the Chinese to supply them? (Sarcasm!)
The Chinese government which may or may not be developing biological weapons, (I have no way of knowing) obviously, was relatively well prepared. This is hardly surprising; as they think they have been under biological attack, on and off since the Korean war when they were so attacked. They had factories making the kit they needed and it took only days to ramp up production and get other factories to join in. They had medical troops who were trained and ready to take an important part in controlling the outbreak. They had plans that enabled them to build hospitals for mass intensive care in a matter of days and (I would imagine) plans to turn other structures into holding areas for less serious cases. It also looks as though they had either very versatile organizers or well laid plans for feeding and monitoring people under lock down.
@ Don Wills,Jackrabbit , Apr 17 2020 15:17 utc | 20You may understandably reject criticism to Your chosen party of faith, but i believe the essence of his message was not about partisanship, rather an honest appraisal of the current sad state of affairs, which, if you had bothered reading further, was just as scathing about Obama et al. as it was about your beloved Stable Genius.
I'm afraid your choice to not read further was a far stronger statement of partisanship than anything the author laid out. Your loss, and ours too.
TPTB channel all dissatisfaction in USA into partisan politics where it can be managed, and ultimately dismissed or diffused.Bemildred , Apr 17 2020 15:22 utc | 21This rant plays into that game. Only a genuine Movement for democracy (like Yellow Vests in France) will change anything.
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Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 17 2020 15:11 utc | 19Goldhoarder , Apr 17 2020 15:24 utc | 22Yep, exactly. What they have is the CCP, an army that can be called on command, which thinks it's job is to govern, not just get paid extra. And legitimacy, the Chinese people accept their governing, mostly, because they try to do a good job. It's like all this unity bullshit they feed us here (see above), but it's real.
Lol. Trump has under 4 years working for the federal gov. It isn't his system. It is the typical repugs and dingbats system. He is an idiot for leaving his cushy life to join these idiots. It certainly doesn't speak well of his judgement. The people who work there and the people he has hired... Pompeo, Bolton, Esper, etc have worked there for decades. Bolton is an especially rotten character that seems to just keep popping up.bevin , Apr 17 2020 15:31 utc | 24If Trump did win another term I wouldnt be surprised to see him back. Remember when that nutjob from Israel that delights in murdering defenseless people came over and gave a speech to Congress? He received an enthusiastic standing ovation. What more needs to be investigated or discussed? It needs to fail and the people will have to suffer in order for more responsible leadership to emerge. The US has waged war on the people of Iraq for 30 fucking years.
Everytime the system is about to collapse from its own corruption they just create more money and threaten other countries with destruction if they attempt to divorce themselves from the IMF "global" economy. The idea that the empire exists to help the average citizen is insane and rather childish thinking. The empire exists to maintain power, control, and a dominant position. By the way... during all this crazyness has anybody bothered to follow what is going on with US/China trade? There was a much publicized 1st stage agreement over the easy issues but CNN warned it might collapse putting the global economy at severe risk. Has the US lost billions of dollars worth of economic inputs the last couple months? What is the USA going to look like if that continues? Without China propping up the US economy the US will have to rely on its own resources. As you mention the US cant produce N95 masks let alone coronavirus test kits. Testing might allow the powers that be to not feel frightened about coming into contact with the drooling masses. They might let us out of our cages so we can start foraging for food.
Entirely predictable, (knee jerk motion, robotic) Jackrabbit@22.james , Apr 17 2020 15:39 utc | 26Your real objection to this, extremely reasonable, statement:
" ...They even corrupted the Center for Disease Control. Its leaders, evidently eager to curry favor with the madman in the Oval Office, gave its stamp of approval to the unproven – and dangerous drug HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE that Trump's been promoting as the Silver Bullet to cure Covid-19. (April 4-6) Luckily, saner heads prevailed, or a conscience was pricked, and these panting spaniels withdrew the recommendation from their website..."
It is an indication of your general irresponsibility, also exemplified in your casual use of the internet to give, potentially dangerous, medical advice, that you pretend to be dissenting from Brenner because he critiques government. You imply that by doing so he is urging people to support one or other political party. In fact his is a comprehensive critique of the entire political system, whose purpose, for 230+ years has been to prevent the people from governing themselves.
It is a pity to see those tireless and sincere campaigners the Yellow Vests of France drafted into an argument for apathy and defeatism.
thanks michael... i can apply some of these ideas directly to other countries.. i don't care for the usa centric world point view, but i am sure many readers will get into it.. i would like to emphasize a key point you make - accountability, and how there is none.. that to me is the number uno issue in the world today and it is very stark with regard to the usa - accountability... of course obama kicked that concept down the road too... no accountability.. it sucks big time.. we need it desperately...John , Apr 17 2020 15:42 utc | 27Okay... he's not a psychoapath, Don. I'll settle malignant sociopathic narcissist, which means by definition and demonstration that he would not know empathy were it to leap up and smack him in the face. Liar? We can soften that too. He is a serial fantasists living in the worlds he creates and like a spoiled child demands, raging when his wishes are not instantly gratified.Martin , Apr 17 2020 15:54 utc | 30His dictatorial moments would be familiar to anyone who ever worked at his jumped up mom 'n pop real estate shop. His blustering, bullying, blaming, bragging, bloviating, and berating are on display each day now at the late afternoon campaign commercial live-from-the-White-House. He's all yours Don.
Hey everyone.. not sure how to startWhen I was young I was always looking up for US, don't know why, maybe I have been fascinated by a culture, lifestyle, innovations.. when I got older and started to read about what actually happens in the world, I realized that US is not what it seemed to be anymore and I think its just getting worse..
Im not speaking about regular people, of course not, they have worries, goes thru hardships in life, same as me here in Europe.. Basically, no matter if is there Trump, Obama, Bush, Biden, Hillary or Easter Bunny.. your government to its core is really sick..
Everytime i read about decision US made, how is profit driven at expense of regular people, its a disgrace.. and more and more people in the world can see it.. just Trump himself exposed more the whole thing, chaotic, selfish, rude and arrogant government, not ashamed of anything.
I wish you all.. you good and smart people of the US, to win this struggle, get back on track and have a better future, god bless you in your fight.
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Ulenspiegel | 17 April 2020 at 07:18 AM
The WHO provided validated working test kits on 16th of January.Even if I am not happy with the Chinese policy overall, the main problem in most advanced western countries was and still is that the response of the governments are often poor:
- Not implementing a coherent communication strategy. It does not make sense when one minister tells that the virus situation is an real issue and another minister tell you at the same time that everything is not so bad.
- Downplaying the infection numbers for domestical political reasons. Complete lack of understanding of an exponential function or more precise the combination of an virus operating on an exponential function, while the own resources are more or less a constant.
- Too late start of testing, be it a result of faulty administrative structures, rooky mistakes during test kit development or combination of both.
Fighting a virus is like warfare on the operational level, you start with incomplete information, but have to make important decisions, time is a very important resource, lost time is almost impossible to regain.
likbez , 17 April 2020 at 12:22 PM
@Ulenspiegel | 17 April 2020 at 07:18 AM
Fighting a virus is like warfare on the operational level, you start with incomplete information, but have to make important decisions, time is a very important resource, lost time is almost impossible to regain.Very true. But we should not forget the role of Pelosi in this mess: Trump administration was partially paralyzed in January by impeachment proceedings. She acted like the fifth column in this respect.Another factor was that any real measures against the virus were a huge blow to the neoliberal globalization and the USA as the central force that pushed neoliberal globalization was vary to implement them.
IMHO, Trump demonstrated some level of courage by closing flights from China on Jan 31. I guess pressure to postpone this measure further was tremendous. But they missed the time, and it was too late.
3) Too late start of testing, be it a result of faulty administrative structures, rooky mistakes during test kit development, or a combination of both.That's true, and the CDC needs to be investigated for this blunder. But also implementing social distancing measures and the obligatory wearing of masks in large cities was completely botched.Retired persons can be quarantined without a major blow to the economy. And that should have been done first. The nursing homes are starkly vulnerable to the coronavirus. It was clear from the beginning. That means that the medical personnel in them need to be provided with full protection gear and isolated with patients. That was not done. On the contrary, they became hotspots that spread the disease.
Treatment of medical personnel, who along with patients in nursing homes are the most vulnerable category, was abysmal. No free hotel stay (for those without children), no special transportation and free meals were provided for them. Even basic protection equipment was absent in home hospitals until late March.
The USA did not have strategic storage of masks and, which is more important, equipment to make them and materials from which they are made. That was a big blunder for which previous administrations also share responsibility.
Pentagon treatment of the USS Theodor Roosevelt epidemic was worse than incompetent because clearly, this was just the tip of the iceberg. Instead of looking into the core problem, they decided to find a scapegoat. Why they did not react as soon as problems on Diamond Princess surfaced are unclear to me. They failed even to provide masks. That's simply incredible. I think a bunch of perfumed princes of Pentagon needs to be fired. I wonder what is the situation on submarines.
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Digital Samizdat , says: Show Comment April 13, 2020 at 9:16 pm GMT
Great piece from CJ, as usual. Just one quibble:People will forget all that populism nonsense, and just be grateful for whatever McJobs they can get to be able to pay the interest on their debts, because, hey global capitalism isn't so bad compared to living under house arrest!
Hard to imagine that happening in Americastan, where the economy has been completely destroyed by the lockdown. We'll be lucky 'merely' to have Great Depression levels of unemployment when this madness finally ends.
For all the MAGApedes out there: Trump had better be seen to be fighting the lockdown-shysters, not acquiescing to them, if he wants to get re-elected. If he spends the summer continuing to genuflect before Dr. Falsie, Trump is toast come November.
Apr 15, 2020 | www.rt.com
Former education secretary Bill Bennett has been savaged online for suggesting that the coronavirus is "not a pandemic," calling for the lifting of lockdown measures, as the debate rages over reopening the shuttered US economy. More than half a million Americans have caught the coronavirus, with just over 22,000 deaths. While the numbers are dire, the University of Washington's forecasters revised their total predicted Covid-19 deaths down to 60,000 last week, a number comparable to deaths from influenza in 2017-2018, and significantly lower than the six-figure death toll floated by President Donald Trump's top medical adviser, Dr Anthony Fauci, last month.
"For this, we scared the hell out of the American people, we lost 17 million jobs, we put a major dent in the economy, we closed down the schools... shut down the churches," Bennett said on Monday's edition of Fox and Friends. "You know, this was not, and is not a pandemic. But we do have panic and pandemonium as a result of the hype of this."
Fox News contributor Bill Bennett compares coronavirus to the flu, claiming that "this was not and is not a pandemic." pic.twitter.com/Q4oBcXKISV
-- Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) April 13, 2020The World Health Organization declared the coronavirus a pandemic on March 11 and it has been reported in almost every country around the world. Bennett was flayed online for his "aggressively stupid" statement.
"Bill Bennett may be a self-proclaimed ethics expert, but he obviously knows very little about logic and cause-and-effect," wrote author Ward Carroll.
Aggressively stupid Bill Bennett may be a self-professed ethics expert, but he obviously knows little about logic or cause-and-effect.Hey, Billy Boy, do you think there's any relationship between actions taken and the number of #COVID19 fatalities?And get a haircut, old man.
-- Ward Carroll (@wardcarroll) April 13, 2020"It is deeply irresponsible to air this view on national television," tweeted CNN's Chris Cillizza, while neoconservative pundit Bill Kristol suggested the low death toll was a direct result of the government scaring "the hell out of the American people."
Needless to say, if we have "only" 60,000 deaths, it's BECAUSE "we scared the hell out of the American people," and they radically changed behavior. Or rather: "We" didn't scare anyone. People were alarmed by the facts and adjusted -- despite dangerous happy talk from our president. https://t.co/yTeivjA82F
-- Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) April 13, 2020My doctor told me he presumes I had #COVID19 and then related #coronavirus pneumonia. I can assure Bill Bennett that even though I exercised and ate well, covid kicked my ass. It was terrifying. I couldn't breathe and thought I was dying.It was nothing like the flu, fool. https://t.co/9BjQvC2yyU
-- Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) April 13, 2020Bill Bennett doesn't understand that the only reason my "only" 60,000 people will die is because we're all stuck at home.I've said before. If the GOP thinks this is a hoax then go throw a huge party and invite yours entire family and Trump, and see how it goes. https://t.co/6TR3I0MyXC
-- John Aravosis 🇺🇸 (@aravosis) April 13, 2020Modeling the spread of infectious diseases is an imprecise science. While the University of Washington's researchers attribute their revised predictions to " crucial" social distancing measures and recommend they remain in place until the end of May, many initial predictions about the virus were wrong. When it first entered the US in January, media outlets urged Americans not to panic, warning them that the flu was a more imminent threat. These same outlets now tell a different story .
Likewise, Fauci himself said in February that there was "no need to change anything you're doing on a day-to-day basis." On Sunday, he told CNN's Jake Tapper that the government "could have saved lives" if social distancing started earlier.
With commentators on the right demanding a relaxation of lockdown rules, and Trump's advisers telling the president – to quote Fauci – that "the virus decides" when things return to normal, no clear path forward is obvious.
Apr 15, 2020 | nlm.nih.gov
A distinct aspect of the shift in debate from framing in terms of "dual-use research" to "gain-of-function research" has been focus on biosafety concerns -- e.g., that a devastating pandemic could potentially result from a laboratory accident involving an especially dangerous pathogen created via GOFR. In light of Ron Fouchier's claim that the ferret-transmissible strain of H5N1 he produced is "probably one of the most dangerous viruses you can make" (Enserink 2011 ) and (previous) NSABB chair Paul Keim's claim that "I can't think of another pathogenic organism as scary as this one [created by Fouchier's team] I don't think anthrax is scary at all compared to this" (Enserink 2011 ), for example, some critics argued that the study in question should have been, and/or that future similar research should be, conducted in laboratories with the highest bio-containment level -- i.e., biosafety level 4 (BSL-4), as opposed to BSL-3 ("enhanced") in which this research was done (Swazo 2013 ). Fouchier has, in response, pointed out that his research received necessary institutional biosafety review/approval; and others have argued that his research (given employment of safety measures beyond ordinary BSL-3, including vaccination of lab workers against H5N1) in effect involved safety equivalent to BSL-4 (Roos 2012 ). Anthony Fauci (Director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) has concluded that "the scientists who triggered this debate [including Fouchier] have conducted their research properly and under the safest and most secure conditions" (Fauci 2012 , p. 1).
Apr 14, 2020 | www.unz.com
Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment April 12, 2020 at 6:05 am GMT
Anything's possible, but if I had to put money on one and only one hypothesis, I'd go with an accidental leak from a lab in Wuhan.Gilad Atzmon , says: Show Comment April 12, 2020 at 1:19 pm GMT@Colin Wright Accidental yes, China? I am not sure at allNuncle , says: Show Comment April 12, 2020 at 10:03 am GMT@Colin Wright If that's the case, then Fauci is an amazing man who can literally see into the future:
Apr 13, 2020 | caucus99percent.com
@travelerxxxFauci talked about continuing lockdowns until there were *no* new cases being reported.
I can confidently predict that will happen about a day after we win the War on Drugs and the War on Terror.
Apr 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Pft , Apr 13 2020 2:42 utc | 103
A few Easter musings.No church on Easter for the faithful. The illuminati must feel like they are in heaven. Their goal of achieving a godless society is in reach. Well, not exactly godless since they think the elites among them have a mission to become like God, as man was made in Gods image for the purpose of knowing himself through man. We shall all worship God, which are our elites, and the priests of this Man-God religion are technocratic scientists. Some call it scientism or gnosticism or transhumanism
The idea is to transhumanistly "upgrade" humanity, create an Internet of Us, and to geocybernically control the processes of the earth system (this is known as the Fourth Industrial Revolution 4IR)
Capitalism. How strange so many here recognize the evils of Bad capitalism, more properly defined as Monopoly Capitalism, or Neoliberalism to distinguish it from good Capitalism -which is competitive capitalism well regulated in the interests of society as a whole, with a dash of socialism and monopoly (state or private) capitalism in certain industries as needed.
When we talk of Bad Capitalism of the sort Marx no doubt had in mind, we must look back and recall something Marx never envisioned, perhaps because it was a reaction to the globalist socialist theories he espoused. That was Mussolini's and then later Hitlers National Socialism, or economic Fascism. This was more accurately defined as a public private partnership (P3) that is so often referred to by the Gates funded WOrld Economic Forum and those talking about UN Sustainable Development Projects, and has become a religion of sorts in the West and also in China (more about that in a separate comment when I have time) and is really the essence of todays neoliberalism (not the propaganda you read about neoliberalism from its supporters)
Back in the 30's Mussolini's economic fascism was greatly admired by the Capitalists of that day, even FDR who has been mislabelled as socialist and anti-capitalist despite coming from the financial elite (much like Trump who is mislabelled as nationalist snd antiestablishment despite being a globalist and financial elite in private life).
Indeed just before and after Hitler took over in Germany with his partnership with German companies - the Capitalists in the US and UK/France rushed in via cartel agreements with German companies to invest and transfer technology. FDR did little to stop this.
FDR if we recall was the father of NRA which was his first priority after confiscating the peoples gold and devaluing the dollar. Fortunately his fascist NRA economy was struck down by the Supreme Court only to later reemerge during WWII. This is when P3 really crystallized in the US although it would take decades to morph into todays beast, and required another Pearl Harbor to gain acceptance for the purpose of keeping us safe from Islamic Terrorism and now the virus terrorists
One might argue that the difference between Mussolini's and Hitlers P3 and today is the government was the dominant power then, and today its at best an equal partner or more likely dominated by the corporate side (in China the private ownership is largely in the hands of the party elite as individuals and not the state which serves to subsidize their enterprises while socializing losses and privatizing profits-like the West) . Those in government, after public retirement go on to lucrative employment on the private side as their reward. Regulatory agencies are all captured by the private side of this public private partnership
This is apparent in many industries. Many of you see it with Military, intelligence and homeland security, Big Tech/Data, finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE), etc.
However, when it comes to Medical -Pharma Industry and other "science" based industries like the Climate Industry you are blinded by scientism promoted by the MSM spinmeisters supporting the Green-Virus Globalist Agenda. Yet both of these industries are driven by Public Private Partnerships to achieve Global Capitalist and Global Government Control objectives.
As Eisenhower said in his 1961 exit speech where he warned of the dangers of the MIC he also said "we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."
So looking specifically at the actors involved in the latest Pandemic, and one sees many of them are the same players behind the Climate Terror Industry, one sees a tremendous amount of collaboration between Big Pharma, UN agencies, national health agencies, military, academia and tax free philanthropic foundations (Gates, Rockefeller, etc).
Government funds basic science via military and health/science agencies to search for new viruses or enhancing known viruses with gain of function research, that Big Pharma then exploits to develop vaccines with government and philanthropic funds in the event such viruses are released. All kinds of money gets spent in preparing for a pandemic, stockpiling supplies , medicines, vaccines in advance of a pandemic, studying ways to control people once a pandemic arrives, and studying more ways to control people to prevent another pandemic (digital id, health certificates, mandatory vaccines) . When a pandemic does arrive, all those exercises and simulations (Crimson Orange, Event 201, Dark Winter, etc) pay off, trillions of dollars are unleashed out of thin air thanks to the Fed Reserve and handed out to the private partners.
Disaster Capitalism at its finest, public private partnership working toward total control of people and earning plenty of money while doing so. Companies having nothing to do with the Pandemic but affected (Airlines, hotels) , some of which are already in trouble (Boeing) are bailed out. Small business owners get crushed.
Apr 13, 2020 | caucus99percent.com
Trump failed to respond. But in January and February, it was clear coronavirus would hit NY. Cuomo and de Blasio could have instituted full lockdowns by early March when first cases appeared. Meanwhile, Washington State and California moved more quickly and saved many lives.
-- Ross Barkan (@RossBarkan) April 11, 2020
-- ragonepr (@ragonepr) April 11, 2020
Countless other state governors didn't close things down as quickly as Newsom in California and other governors. Florida let spring break go one and once finished no state put kids in quarantine. The blame for this response falls on many shoulders. And the lack of response is hiding the biggest transfer of wealth in history. Not here of course. As usual the blue blog has been on top of most issues and way ahead of others.
I'm very concerned about how this country will look once it's open again. I think it's going to be unrecognizable because of how many businesses will have permanently closed down and how many people will stay unemployed. Lots of businesses are going to be bought out at Fire sale prices by those who got all the money. Like usual. Workers desperate for a job might have to take less than minimum wage cuz of the demand for jobs. But whoboy congress better be thinking about that or they will be in for a big surprise. OWS will look like just a warmup for what might be coming.
Hospitals have been closed down for decades or been asset stripped after they were bought out by hedge funds. Obama and Biden didn't replenish the supplies for epidemics after they dealt with the H1N1 flu. Blame goes to both parties and especially their embrace of neoliberalism.
He's thinking of reopening the country. Hardily and bigly.
"I don't know that I've had a bigger decision. But I'm going to surround myself with the greatest minds. Not only the greatest minds, but the greatest minds in numerous different businesses, including the business of politics and reason," Trump told reporters.
Trump's labor leader doesn't want people to get used to being on government assistance and is trying to restrict who can get unemployment benefits and for how long. Now it takes brass balls for little Anthony Scalia to say that to desperate people after the corrupt and especially the banks have gotten trillions! This guy should be embarrassed to show his face in public ever again. But he isn't.
up 25 users have voted. --"I will be the best, the best, you know, you know the thing!"
- Joe BidenRoy Blakeley on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 10:57pm
The CDC blew the test kits as well@snoopydawg They decided to go with their own unnecessarily complex kit instead of going with the Qiagen kit or some variant (RT-PCR is a pretty routine procedure in labs). They initially stuck with the influenza model of having the samples sent to Atlanta for analysis. This is fine if you are just monitoring the flu, but useless for trying to stop a pandemic. Tens of thousands of people in the US have died and will die unnecessarily.
but he isn't the only one solely responsible for how many people have gotten sick and have died.
Trump failed to respond. But in January and February, it was clear coronavirus would hit NY. Cuomo and de Blasio could have instituted full lockdowns by early March when first cases appeared. Meanwhile, Washington State and California moved more quickly and saved many lives.
-- Ross Barkan (@RossBarkan) April 11, 2020
-- ragonepr (@ragonepr) April 11, 2020
Countless other state governors didn't close things down as quickly as Newsom in California and other governors. Florida let spring break go one and once finished no state put kids in quarantine. The blame for this response falls on many shoulders. And the lack of response is hiding the biggest transfer of wealth in history. Not here of course. As usual the blue blog has been on top of most issues and way ahead of others.
I'm very concerned about how this country will look once it's open again. I think it's going to be unrecognizable because of how many businesses will have permanently closed down and how many people will stay unemployed. Lots of businesses are going to be bought out at Fire sale prices by those who got all the money. Like usual. Workers desperate for a job might have to take less than minimum wage cuz of the demand for jobs. But whoboy congress better be thinking about that or they will be in for a big surprise. OWS will look like just a warmup for what might be coming.
Hospitals have been closed down for decades or been asset stripped after they were bought out by hedge funds. Obama and Biden didn't replenish the supplies for epidemics after they dealt with the H1N1 flu. Blame goes to both parties and especially their embrace of neoliberalism.
He's thinking of reopening the country. Hardily and bigly.
"I don't know that I've had a bigger decision. But I'm going to surround myself with the greatest minds. Not only the greatest minds, but the greatest minds in numerous different businesses, including the business of politics and reason," Trump told reporters.
Trump's labor leader doesn't want people to get used to being on government assistance and is trying to restrict who can get unemployment benefits and for how long. Now it takes brass balls for little Anthony Scalia to say that to desperate people after the corrupt and especially the banks have gotten trillions! This guy should be embarrassed to show his face in public ever again. But he isn't.
Apr 11, 2020 | www.nytimes.com
By Eric Lipton , David E. Sanger , Maggie Haberman , Michael D. Shear , Mark Mazzetti and Julian E. Barnes
An examination reveals the president was warned about the potential for a pandemic but that internal divisions, lack of planning and his faith in his own instincts led to a halting response.
WASHINGTON -- "Any way you cut it, this is going to be bad," a senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Dr. Carter Mecher, wrote on the night of Jan. 28, in an email to a group of public health experts scattered around the government and universities. "The projected size of the outbreak already seems hard to believe."
A week after the first coronavirus case had been identified in the United States, and six long weeks before President Trump finally took aggressive action to confront the danger the nation was facing -- a pandemic that is now forecast to take tens of thousands of American lives -- Dr. Mecher was urging the upper ranks of the nation's public health bureaucracy to wake up and prepare for the possibility of far more drastic action.
"You guys made fun of me screaming to close the schools," he wrote to the group, which called itself "Red Dawn," an inside joke based on the 1984 movie about a band of Americans trying to save the country after a foreign invasion. "Now I'm screaming, close the colleges and universities."
His was hardly a lone voice. Throughout January, as Mr. Trump repeatedly played down the seriousness of the virus and focused on other issues, an array of figures inside his government -- from top White House advisers to experts deep in the cabinet departments and intelligence agencies -- identified the threat, sounded alarms and made clear the need for aggressive action.
The president, though, was slow to absorb the scale of the risk and to act accordingly, focusing instead on controlling the message, protecting gains in the economy and batting away warnings from senior officials. It was a problem, he said, that had come out of nowhere and could not have been foreseen.
Even after Mr. Trump took his first concrete action at the end of January -- limiting travel from China -- public health often had to compete with economic and political considerations in internal debates, slowing the path toward belated decisions to seek more money from Congress, obtain necessary supplies, address shortfalls in testing and ultimately move to keep much of the nation at home.
Unfolding as it did in the wake of his impeachment by the House and in the midst of his Senate trial, Mr. Trump's response was colored by his suspicion of and disdain for what he viewed as the "Deep State" -- the very people in his government whose expertise and long experience might have guided him more quickly toward steps that would slow the virus, and likely save lives.
Decision-making was also complicated by a long-running dispute inside the administration over how to deal with China. The virus at first took a back seat to a desire not to upset Beijing during trade talks, but later the impulse to score points against Beijing left the world's two leading powers further divided as they confronted one of the first truly global threats of the 21st century.
The shortcomings of Mr. Trump's performance have played out with remarkable transparency as part of his daily effort to dominate television screens and the national conversation.
But dozens of interviews with current and former officials and a review of emails and other records revealed many previously unreported details and a fuller picture of the roots and extent of his halting response as the deadly virus spread:
The National Security Council office responsible for tracking pandemics received intelligence reports in early January predicting the spread of the virus to the United States, and within weeks was raising options like keeping Americans home from work and shutting down cities the size of Chicago. Mr. Trump would avoid such steps until March.
Despite Mr. Trump's denial weeks later, he was told at the time about a Jan. 29 memo produced by his trade adviser, Peter Navarro, laying out in striking detail the potential risks of a coronavirus pandemic: as many as half a million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses.
The health and human services secretary, Alex M. Azar II, directly warned Mr. Trump of the possibility of a pandemic during a call on Jan. 30, the second warning he delivered to the president about the virus in two weeks. The president, who was on Air Force One while traveling for appearances in the Midwest, responded that Mr. Azar was being alarmist.
Mr. Azar publicly announced in February that the government was establishing a "surveillance" system in five American cities to measure the spread of the virus and enable experts to project the next hot spots. It was delayed for weeks. The slow start of that plan, on top of the well-documented failures to develop the nation's testing capacity , left administration officials with almost no insight into how rapidly the virus was spreading. "We were flying the plane with no instruments," one official said.
By the third week in February, the administration's top public health experts concluded they should recommend to Mr. Trump a new approach that would include warning the American people of the risks and urging steps like social distancing and staying home from work. But the White House focused instead on messaging and crucial additional weeks went by before their views were reluctantly accepted by the president -- time when the virus spread largely unimpeded.
When Mr. Trump finally agreed in mid-March to recommend social distancing across the country, effectively bringing much of the economy to a halt, he seemed shellshocked and deflated to some of his closest associates. One described him as "subdued" and "baffled" by how the crisis had played out. An economy that he had wagered his re-election on was suddenly in shambles.
He only regained his swagger, the associate said, from conducting his daily White House briefings, at which he often seeks to rewrite the history of the past several months. He declared at one point that he "felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic," and insisted at another that he had to be a "cheerleader for the country," as if that explained why he failed to prepare the public for what was coming.
Mr. Trump's allies and some administration officials say the criticism has been unfair. The Chinese government misled other governments, they say. And they insist that the president was either not getting proper information, or the people around him weren't conveying the urgency of the threat. In some cases, they argue, the specific officials he was hearing from had been discredited in his eyes, but once the right information got to him through other channels, he made the right calls.
"While the media and Democrats refused to seriously acknowledge this virus in January and February, President Trump took bold action to protect Americans and unleash the full power of the federal government to curb the spread of the virus, expand testing capacities and expedite vaccine development even when we had no true idea the level of transmission or asymptomatic spread," said Judd Deere, a White House spokesman.
There were key turning points along the way, opportunities for Mr. Trump to get ahead of the virus rather than just chase it. There were internal debates that presented him with stark choices, and moments when he could have chosen to ask deeper questions and learn more. How he handled them may shape his re-election campaign. They will certainly shape his legacy.
The Containment IllusionBy the last week of February, it was clear to the administration's public health team that schools and businesses in hot spots would have to close. But in the turbulence of the Trump White House, it took three more weeks to persuade the president that failure to act quickly to control the spread of the virus would have dire consequences.
When Dr. Robert Kadlec, the top disaster response official at the Health and Human Services Department, convened the White House coronavirus task force on Feb. 21, his agenda was urgent. There were deep cracks in the administration's strategy for keeping the virus out of the United States. They were going to have to lock down the country to prevent it from spreading. The question was: When?
There had already been an alarming spike in new cases around the world and the virus was spreading across the Middle East. It was becoming apparent that the administration had botched the rollout of testing to track the virus at home, and a smaller-scale surveillance program intended to piggyback on a federal flu tracking system had also been stillborn.
In Washington, the president was not worried, predicting that by April, "when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away." His White House had yet to ask Congress for additional funding to prepare for the potential cost of wide-scale infection across the country, and health care providers were growing increasingly nervous about the availability of masks, ventilators and other equipment.
What Mr. Trump decided to do next could dramatically shape the course of the pandemic -- and how many people would get sick and die.
With that in mind, the task force had gathered for a tabletop exercise -- a real-time version of a full-scale war gaming of a flu pandemic the administration had run the previous year. That earlier exercise , also conducted by Mr. Kadlec and called "Crimson Contagion," predicted 110 million infections , 7.7 million hospitalizations and 586,000 deaths following a hypothetical outbreak that started in China.
Facing the likelihood of a real pandemic, the group needed to decide when to abandon "containment" -- the effort to keep the virus outside the U.S. and to isolate anyone who gets infected -- and embrace "mitigation" to thwart the spread of the virus inside the country until a vaccine becomes available.
Among the questions on the agenda, which was reviewed by The New York Times, was when the department's secretary, Mr. Azar, should recommend that Mr. Trump take textbook mitigation measures "such as school dismissals and cancellations of mass gatherings," which had been identified as the next appropriate step in a Bush-era pandemic plan .
The exercise was sobering. The group -- including Dr. Anthony S. Fauci of the National Institutes of Health; Dr. Robert R. Redfield of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Mr. Azar, who at that stage was leading the White House Task Force -- concluded they would soon need to move toward aggressive social distancing, even at the risk of severe disruption to the nation's economy and the daily lives of millions of Americans.
If Dr. Kadlec had any doubts, they were erased two days later, when he stumbled upon an email from a researcher at the Georgia Institute of Technology, who was among the group of academics, government physicians and infectious diseases doctors who had spent weeks tracking the outbreak in the Red Dawn email chain.
A 20-year-old Chinese woman had infected five relatives with the virus even though she never displayed any symptoms herself. The implication was grave -- apparently healthy people could be unknowingly spreading the virus -- and supported the need to move quickly to mitigation.
"Is this true?!" Dr. Kadlec wrote back to the researcher. "If so we have a huge whole on our screening and quarantine effort," including a typo where he meant hole. Her response was blunt: "People are carrying the virus everywhere."
The following day, Dr. Kadlec and the others decided to present Mr. Trump with a plan titled "Four Steps to Mitigation," telling the president that they needed to begin preparing Americans for a step rarely taken in United States history.
But over the next several days, a presidential blowup and internal turf fights would sidetrack such a move. The focus would shift to messaging and confident predictions of success rather than publicly calling for a shift to mitigation.
These final days of February, perhaps more than any other moment during his tenure in the White House, illustrated Mr. Trump's inability or unwillingness to absorb warnings coming at him. He instead reverted to his traditional political playbook in the midst of a public health calamity, squandering vital time as the coronavirus spread silently across the country.
Dr. Kadlec's group wanted to meet with the president right away, but Mr. Trump was on a trip to India, so they agreed to make the case to him in person as soon as he returned two days later. If they could convince him of the need to shift strategy, they could immediately begin a national education campaign aimed at preparing the public for the new reality.
A memo dated Feb. 14, prepared in coordination with the National Security Council and titled "U.S. Government Response to the 2019 Novel Coronavirus," documented what more drastic measures would look like, including: "significantly limiting public gatherings and cancellation of almost all sporting events, performances, and public and private meetings that cannot be convened by phone. Consider school closures. Widespread 'stay at home' directives from public and private organizations with nearly 100% telework for some."
The memo did not advocate an immediate national shutdown, but said the targeted use of "quarantine and isolation measures" could be used to slow the spread in places where "sustained human-to-human transmission" is evident.
Within 24 hours, before they got a chance to make their presentation to the president, the plan went awry.
Mr. Trump was walking up the steps of Air Force One to head home from India on Feb. 25 when Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, publicly issued the blunt warning they had all agreed was necessary. But Dr. Messonnier had jumped the gun. They had not told the president yet, much less gotten his consent.
On the 18-hour plane ride home, Mr. Trump fumed as he watched the stock market crash after Dr. Messonnier's comments. Furious, he called Mr. Azar when he landed at around 6 a.m. on Feb. 26, raging that Dr. Messonnier had scared people unnecessarily. Already on thin ice with the president over a variety of issues and having overseen the failure to quickly produce an effective and widely available test, Mr. Azar would soon find his authority reduced.
The meeting that evening with Mr. Trump to advocate social distancing was canceled, replaced by a news conference in which the president announced that the White House response would be put under the command of Vice President Mike Pence.
The push to convince Mr. Trump of the need for more assertive action stalled. With Mr. Pence and his staff in charge, the focus was clear: no more alarmist messages. Statements and media appearances by health officials like Dr. Fauci and Dr. Redfield would be coordinated through Mr. Pence's office. It would be more than three weeks before Mr. Trump would announce serious social distancing efforts, a lost period during which the spread of the virus accelerated rapidly.
Over nearly three weeks from Feb. 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, nearly half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. The China Factor
The earliest warnings about coronavirus got caught in the crosscurrents of the administration's internal disputes over China. It was the China hawks who pushed earliest for a travel ban. But their animosity toward China also undercut hopes for a more cooperative approach by the world's two leading powers to a global crisis.
It was early January, and the call with a Hong Kong epidemiologist left Matthew Pottinger rattled.
Mr. Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser and a hawk on China, took a blunt warning away from the call with the doctor, a longtime friend: A ferocious, new outbreak that on the surface appeared similar to the SARS epidemic of 2003 had emerged in China. It had spread far more quickly than the government was admitting to, and it wouldn't be long before it reached other parts of the world.
Mr. Pottinger had worked as a Wall Street Journal correspondent in Hong Kong during the SARS epidemic, and was still scarred by his experience documenting the death spread by that highly contagious virus.
Now, seventeen years later, his friend had a blunt message: You need to be ready. The virus, he warned, which originated in the city of Wuhan, was being transmitted by people who were showing no symptoms -- an insight that American health officials had not yet accepted. Mr. Pottinger declined through a spokesman to comment.
It was one of the earliest warnings to the White House, and it echoed the intelligence reports making their way to the National Security Council. While most of the early assessments from the C.I.A. had little more information than was available publicly, some of the more specialized corners of the intelligence world were producing sophisticated and chilling warnings.
In a report to the director of national intelligence, the State Department's epidemiologist wrote in early January that the virus was likely to spread across the globe, and warned that the coronavirus could develop into a pandemic. Working independently, a small outpost of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Center for Medical Intelligence, came to the same conclusion. Within weeks after getting initial information about the virus early in the year, biodefense experts inside the National Security Council, looking at what was happening in Wuhan, started urging officials to think about what would be needed to quarantine a city the size of Chicago.
By mid-January there was growing evidence of the virus spreading outside China. Mr. Pottinger began convening daily meetings about the coronavirus. He alerted his boss, Robert C. O'Brien, the national security adviser.
The early alarms sounded by Mr. Pottinger and other China hawks were freighted with ideology -- including a push to publicly blame China that critics in the administration say was a distraction as the coronavirus spread to Western Europe and eventually the United States.
And they ran into opposition from Mr. Trump's economic advisers, who worried a tough approach toward China could scuttle a trade deal that was a pillar of Mr. Trump's re-election campaign.
With his skeptical -- some might even say conspiratorial -- view of China's ruling Communist Party, Mr. Pottinger initially suspected that President Xi Jinping's government was keeping a dark secret: that the virus may have originated in one of the laboratories in Wuhan studying deadly pathogens. In his view, it might have even been a deadly accident unleashed on an unsuspecting Chinese population.
During meetings and telephone calls, Mr. Pottinger asked intelligence agencies -- including officers at the C.I.A. working on Asia and on weapons of mass destruction -- to search for evidence that might bolster his theory.
They didn't have any evidence. Intelligence agencies did not detect any alarm inside the Chinese government that analysts presumed would accompany the accidental leak of a deadly virus from a government laboratory. But Mr. Pottinger continued to believe the coronavirus problem was far worse than the Chinese were acknowledging. Inside the West Wing, the director of the Domestic Policy Council, Joe Grogan, also tried to sound alarms that the threat from China was growing.
Mr. Pottinger, backed by Mr. O'Brien, became one of the driving forces of a campaign in the final weeks of January to convince Mr. Trump to impose limits on travel from China -- the first substantive step taken to impede the spread of the virus and one that the president has repeatedly cited as evidence that he was on top of the problem.
In addition to the opposition from the economic team, Mr. Pottinger and his allies among the China hawks had to overcome initial skepticism from the administration's public health experts.
Travel restrictions were usually counterproductive to managing biological outbreaks because they prevented doctors and other much-needed medical help from easily getting to the affected areas, the health officials said. And such bans often cause infected people to flee, spreading the disease further.
But on the morning of Jan. 30, Mr. Azar got a call from Dr. Fauci, Dr. Redfield and others saying they had changed their minds. The World Health Organization had declared a global public health emergency and American officials had discovered the first confirmed case of person-to-person transmission inside the United States.
The economic team, led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, continued to argue that there were big risks in taking a provocative step toward China and moving to curb global travel. After a debate, Mr. Trump came down on the side of the hawks and the public health team. The limits on travel from China were publicly announced on Jan. 31 .
Still, Mr. Trump and other senior officials were wary of further upsetting Beijing. Besides the concerns about the impact on the trade deal, they knew that an escalating confrontation was risky because the United States relies heavily on China for pharmaceuticals and the kinds of protective equipment most needed to combat the coronavirus.
But the hawks kept pushing in February to take a critical stance toward China amid the growing crisis. Mr. Pottinger and others -- including aides to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo -- pressed for government statements to use the term "Wuhan Virus."
Mr. Pompeo tried to hammer the anti-China message at every turn, eventually even urging leaders of the Group of 7 industrialized countries to use "Wuhan virus" in a joint statement.
Others, including aides to Mr. Pence, resisted taking a hard public line, believing that angering Beijing might lead the Chinese government to withhold medical supplies, pharmaceuticals and any scientific research that might ultimately lead to a vaccine.
Mr. Trump took a conciliatory approach through the middle of March, praising the job Mr. Xi was doing.
That changed abruptly, when aides informed Mr. Trump that a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman had publicly spun a new conspiracy about the origins of Covid-19: that it was brought to China by U.S. Army personnel who visited the country last October.
Mr. Trump was furious, and he took to his favorite platform to broadcast a new message. On March 16, he wrote on Twitter that "the United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus."
Mr. Trump's decision to escalate the war of words undercut any remaining possibility of broad cooperation between the governments to address a global threat. It remains to be seen whether that mutual suspicion will spill over into efforts to develop treatments or vaccines, both areas where the two nations are now competing.
One immediate result was a free-for-all across the United States, with state and local governments and hospitals bidding on the open market for scarce but essential Chinese-made products. When the state of Massachusetts managed to procure 1.2 million masks, it fell to the owner of the New England Patriots, Robert K. Kraft, a Trump ally, to cut through extensive red tape on both sides of the Pacific to send his own plane to pick them up.
The Consequences of ChaosThe chaotic culture of the Trump White House contributed to the crisis. A lack of planning and a failure to execute, combined with the president's focus on the news cycle and his preference for following his gut rather than the data cost time, and perhaps lives.
Inside the West Wing, Mr. Navarro, Mr. Trump's trade adviser, was widely seen as quick-tempered, self-important and prone to butting in. He is among the most outspoken of China hawks and in late January was clashing with the administration's health experts over limiting travel from China.
So it elicited eye rolls when, after initially being prevented from joining the coronavirus task force, he circulated a memo on Jan. 29 urging Mr. Trump to impose the travel limits, arguing that failing to confront the outbreak aggressively could be catastrophic, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses.
The uninvited message could not have conflicted more with the president's approach at the time of playing down the severity of the threat. And when aides raised it with Mr. Trump, he responded that he was unhappy that Mr. Navarro had put his warning in writing.
From the time the virus was first identified as a concern, the administration's response was plagued by the rivalries and factionalism that routinely swirl around Mr. Trump and, along with the president's impulsiveness, undercut decision making and policy development.
Faced with the relentless march of a deadly pathogen, the disagreements and a lack of long-term planning had significant consequences. They slowed the president's response and resulted in problems with execution and planning, including delays in seeking money from Capitol Hill and a failure to begin broad surveillance testing.
The efforts to shape Mr. Trump's view of the virus began early in January, when his focus was elsewhere: the fallout from his decision to kill Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani , Iran's security mastermind; his push for an initial trade deal with China ; and his Senate impeachment trial, which was about to begin .
Even after Mr. Azar first briefed him about the potential seriousness of the virus during a phone call on Jan. 18 while the president was at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, Mr. Trump projected confidence that it would be a passing problem.
"We have it totally under control," he told an interviewer a few days later while attending the World Economic Forum in Switzerland. "It's going to be just fine."
Back in Washington, voices outside of the White House peppered Mr. Trump with competing assessments about what he should do and how quickly he should act.
The efforts to sort out policy behind closed doors were contentious and sometimes only loosely organized.
That was the case when the National Security Council convened a meeting on short notice on the afternoon of Jan. 27. The Situation Room was standing room only, packed with top White House advisers, low-level staffers, Mr. Trump's social media guru, and several cabinet secretaries. There was no checklist about the preparations for a possible pandemic, which would require intensive testing, rapid acquisition of protective gear, and perhaps serious limitations on Americans' movements.
Instead, after a 20-minute description by Mr. Azar of his department's capabilities, the meeting was jolted when Stephen E. Biegun, the newly installed deputy secretary of state, announced plans to issue a " level four " travel warning, strongly discouraging Americans from traveling to China. The room erupted into bickering.
A few days later, on the evening of Jan. 30, Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff at the time, and Mr. Azar called Air Force One as the president was making the final decision to go ahead with the restrictions on China travel. Mr. Azar was blunt, warning that the virus could develop into a pandemic and arguing that China should be criticized for failing to be transparent.
Mr. Trump rejected the idea of criticizing China, saying the country had enough to deal with. And if the president's decision on the travel restrictions suggested that he fully grasped the seriousness of the situation, his response to Mr. Azar indicated otherwise.
Stop panicking, Mr. Trump told him.
That sentiment was present throughout February, as the president's top aides reached for a consistent message but took few concrete steps to prepare for the possibility of a major public health crisis.
During a briefing on Capitol Hill on Feb. 5, senators urged administration officials to take the threat more seriously. Several asked if the administration needed additional money to help local and state health departments prepare.
Derek Kan, a senior official from the Office of Management and Budget, replied that the administration had all the money it needed, at least at that point, to stop the virus, two senators who attended the briefing said.
"Just left the Administration briefing on Coronavirus," Senator Christopher S. Murphy, Democrat of Connecticut, wrote in a tweet shortly after. "Bottom line: they aren't taking this seriously enough."
The administration also struggled to carry out plans it did agree on. In mid-February, with the effort to roll out widespread testing stalled, Mr. Azar announced a plan to repurpose a flu-surveillance system in five major cities to help track the virus among the general population. The effort all but collapsed even before it got started as Mr. Azar struggled to win approval for $100 million in funding and the C.D.C. failed to make reliable tests available .
The number of infections in the United States started to surge through February and early March, but the Trump administration did not move to place large-scale orders for masks and other protective equipment, or critical hospital equipment, such as ventilators. The Pentagon sat on standby , awaiting any orders to help provide temporary hospitals or other assistance.
As February gave way to March, the president continued to be surrounded by divided factions even as it became clearer that avoiding more aggressive steps was not tenable.
Mr. Trump had agreed to give an Oval Office address on the evening of March 11 announcing restrictions on travel from Europe, where the virus was ravaging Italy. But responding to the views of his business friends and others, he continued to resist calls for social distancing, school closures and other steps that would imperil the economy.
But the virus was already multiplying across the country -- and hospitals were at risk of buckling under the looming wave of severely ill people, lacking masks and other protective equipment, ventilators and sufficient intensive care beds. The question loomed over the president and his aides after weeks of stalling and inaction: What were they going to do?
The approach that Mr. Azar and others had planned to bring to him weeks earlier moved to the top of the agenda. Even then, and even by Trump White House standards, the debate over whether to shut down much of the country to slow the spread was especially fierce.
Always attuned to anything that could trigger a stock market decline or an economic slowdown that could hamper his re-election effort, Mr. Trump also reached out to prominent investors like Stephen A. Schwarzman, the chief executive of Blackstone Group, a private equity firm.
"Everybody questioned it for a while, not everybody, but a good portion questioned it," Mr. Trump said earlier this month . "They said, let's keep it open. Let's ride it."
In a tense Oval Office meeting, when Mr. Mnuchin again stressed that the economy would be ravaged, Mr. O'Brien, the national security adviser, who had been worried about the virus for weeks, sounded exasperated as he told Mr. Mnuchin that the economy would be destroyed regardless if officials did nothing.
Soon after the Oval Office address, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration and a trusted sounding board inside the White House, visited Mr. Trump, partly at the urging of Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law. Dr. Gottlieb's role was to impress upon the president how serious the crisis could become. Mr. Pence, by then in charge of the task force, also played a key role at that point in getting through to the president about the seriousness of the moment in a way that Mr. Azar had not.
But in the end, aides said, it was Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the veteran AIDS researcher who had joined the task force, who helped to persuade Mr. Trump. Soft-spoken and fond of the kind of charts and graphs Mr. Trump prefers, Dr. Birx did not have the rough edges that could irritate the president. He often told people he thought she was elegant.
On Monday, March 16, Mr. Trump announced new social distancing guidelines , saying they would be in place for two weeks. The subsequent economic disruptions were so severe that the president repeatedly suggested that he wanted to lift even those temporary restrictions. He frequently asked aides why his administration was still being blamed in news coverage for the widespread failures involving testing, insisting the responsibility had shifted to the states.
During the last week in March, Kellyanne Conway, a senior White House adviser involved in task force meetings, gave voice to concerns other aides had. She warned Mr. Trump that his wished-for date of Easter to reopen the country likely couldn't be accomplished. Among other things, she told him, he would end up being blamed by critics for every subsequent death caused by the virus.
Within days, he watched images on television of a calamitous situation at Elmhurst Hospital Center, miles from his childhood home in Queens, N.Y., where 13 people had died from the coronavirus in 24 hours.
He left the restrictions in place.
Apr 13, 2020 | caucus99percent.com
CB on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 4:46pm Timeline on how Donald Trump completely failed America.
This expose by the New York Times is the best reporting I have seen on Trump's complete inability and subsequent failure to lead during this time of acute crisis.
He Could Have Seen What Was Coming: Behind Trump's Failure on the Virus
An examination reveals the president was warned about the potential for a pandemic but that internal divisions, lack of planning and his faith in his own instincts led to a halting response.
April 11, 2020
Updated 4:33 p.m. ETWASHINGTON -- "Any way you cut it, this is going to be bad," a senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Dr. Carter Mecher, wrote on the night of Jan. 28, in an email to a group of public health experts scattered around the government and universities. "The projected size of the outbreak already seems hard to believe."
A week after the first coronavirus case had been identified in the United States, and six long weeks before President Trump finally took aggressive action to confront the danger the nation was facing -- a pandemic that is now forecast to take tens of thousands of American lives -- Dr. Mecher was urging the upper ranks of the nation's public health bureaucracy to wake up and prepare for the possibility of far more drastic action.
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The Containment IllusionBy the last week of February, it was clear to the administration's public health team that schools and businesses in hot spots would have to close. But in the turbulence of the Trump White House, it took three more weeks to persuade the president that failure to act quickly to control the spread of the virus would have dire consequences.
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The China FactorThe earliest warnings about coronavirus got caught in the crosscurrents of the administration's internal disputes over China. It was the China hawks who pushed earliest for a travel ban. But their animosity toward China also undercut hopes for a more cooperative approach by the world's two leading powers to a global crisis.
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The Consequences of ChaosThe chaotic culture of the Trump White House contributed to the crisis. A lack of planning and a failure to execute, combined with the president's focus on the news cycle and his preference for following his gut rather than the data cost time, and perhaps lives.
Apr 11, 2020 | www.rt.com
Award-winning journalist John Pilger has revealed that the NHS staged an exercise in London in 2016 which proved it was unable to cope with a pandemic like Covid-19, but its findings were suppressed. Speaking to RT's Going Underground , Pilger said that back in 2016, the UK government ran a drill in London that showed the health service was incapable of dealing with an outbreak.
Apr 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
jared , Apr 8 2020 16:58 utc | 52
@45 Posted by: JohninMK | Apr 8 2020 16:05 utc | 45If I comprehend, the issue was that they knew there was a problem in November rather than December.
Not sure the point really, we are awash in examples of U.S. government incompetence - look up incompetence on Wikipedia has Pompous' photo (OK but it should).Realistically:
- the government is slow to respond
- the government is bad at planning
- the government is around 1 million people all pulling in different directions
- it is only when problem is obvious and damaging that the government gets somewhat focused
- the virus is invisible
- the extent of damage was uncertainI think at this point it has their attention.
Apr 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Brendan , Apr 8 2020 8:49 utc | 5April 7: Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word
biggerApril 8: US Department of Defense give 1 million masks to IDF for coronavirus use
biggerPosted by b on April 8, 2020 at 7:43 UTC | Permalink
The Jpost article that b links to says that a million masks from China (donated by the US Department of Defense) arrived in Tel Aviv on Tuesday night. But Israel should have already had two million masks if this report from last weekend is correct:
The shipment will include two million masks, landing in Israel on Monday morning,
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-april-4-2020/So that appears to be three million masks from China, plus those seized from American hospitals. Or are they fiddling the figures and pretending that those seized masks were legally purchased in China?
Brendan , Apr 8 2020 9:53 utc | 8
It appears that Mossad and others have recently acquired about two surgical masks per Israeli:Mao , Apr 8 2020 9:58 utc | 9"5 April 2020,
(...)Last week, the Health Ministry said that security services and government ministries had managed to obtain 27 ventilators and a hoard of other medical equipment from abroad.Hebrew media reported that the Mossad intelligence service, which has been tasked with securing medical equipment from abroad from unspecified countries amid worldwide shortages, helped obtain 25,000 N95 respiratory masks , 20,000 virus test kits, 10 million surgical masks , and 700 overalls for ambulance workers who usually carry out the initial testing for the virus.
It was the third such shipment by the Mossad over the past few weeks, aimed at addressing shortages in Israel."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-11-planes-israel-airlifts-huge-quantities-of-medical-equipment-from-china/Pompeo: "America remains the world's leading light of humanitarian goodness."Emily , Apr 8 2020 10:12 utc | 11One million masks for the IDF.Richard Steven Hack , Apr 8 2020 10:13 utc | 12
Eat your heart out US Theodore Roosevelt and Guam.
US sailors right at the bottom of the Pentagon's priorities, thats for sure.
American military?.
Have one duty - die as required for Israel.
Including death by coronavirus by looks of things.....
More fool them.Bloody hell. The Pentagon procures a million masks from China, then gives them to Israel - when US doctors are running low in almost every city - not to mention that the military itself has soaring coronavirus cases it can't handle.Mao , Apr 8 2020 12:41 utc | 17You gotta know some rich Jewish corporate billionaire was behind that crap and Kushner was just the conduit to get Trump to agree to it - probably in exchange for a big donation to Trump's campaign.
If there was ever a country that deserved to be on the end of a US bombing campaign - it's Israel - a racist, fanatical. colonialist, fascist, illegal terrorist state. Zionists - the biggest scumbags on the planet. But instead the US bombs everyone else Israel doesn't like.
But cheer up. Israel is a doomed nation. There is no way they can continue their path forever, historically speaking. I suspect they won't exist within another fifty years. They'll either be annihilated by their own nuclear weapons, or transformed into a bi-national state that is no longer primarily Jewish. And I don't particularly care which.
The U.S. government's efforts to clean up Cold War-era waste from nuclear research and bomb making at federal sites around the country has lumbered along for decades, often at a pace that watchdogs and other critics say threatens public health and the environment.Ghost Ship , Apr 8 2020 12:41 utc | 18Now, fallout from the global coronavirus pandemic is resulting in more challenges as the nation's only underground repository for nuclear waste finished ramping down operations Wednesday to keep workers safe.
Over more than 20 years, tons of waste have been stashed deep in the salt caverns that make up the southern New Mexico site. Until recently, several shipments a week of special boxes and barrels packed with lab coats, rubber gloves, tools and debris contaminated with plutonium and other radioactive elements were being trucked to the remote facility from South Carolina, Idaho and other spots.
That's all but grinding to a halt.
Shipments to the desert outpost will be limited for the foreseeable future while work at the country's national laboratories and defense sites shift to only those operations considered "mission critical."
Officials at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant warned state regulators in a letter Tuesday that more time would be needed for inspections and audits and that work would be curtailed or shifts would be staggered to ensure workers keep their distance from one another.
... ... ...Willy2 , Apr 8 2020 12:45 utc | 20BTW, the Al Quds Post (aka Jerusalem Post to Zionists) has changed the headline on that article to "Israel brings 1 million masks from China for IDF soldiers" Looks like the "New York Purchasing and Logistics Division" is part of the Israeli Ministry Of War All The Time. So the original was a nice story but fake news. Since there was no correction attached to the new version, it could be that Washington/Tel Aviv reckoned that this was a step to far even for Trump and the new version is the fake news.
- This news simply confirms again that the US, under Trump, has become more corrupt. But this is a development that already started years, decades ago before Trump became president.William Gruff , Apr 8 2020 13:00 utc | 22Willy2 @20vk , Apr 8 2020 13:26 utc | 24I think the possibility should be considered that Trump just made preexisting corruption more visible rather than adding significantly to it. There are elaborate protocols and circuitous speech that professional politicians learn to use to obfuscate the corruption and make their own participation in that corruption seem not only acceptable but necessary or even in the public interest. Trump is either ignorant of these protocols or he just doesn't care.
This is not surprising at all. Israel's economy is completely dependent on American constant aid:jared , Apr 8 2020 13:41 utc | 26Even with all this help (of which most go to the military sector), the Isreali economy can barely keep itself afloat:
[...] inequality of income and wealth is huge in Israel, the second worst in the 36 nation OECD group. The relative poverty rate for Haredim and Arabs (25% of the population) is near 50%, and even for other Israelis, it is higher than the OECD average. The gap in median wage levels from skilled to unskilled; from Haredim/Arabs to others is huge - and yet the former will constitute 50% of the population by 2060.And this mask fiasco is the lesser problem for the American working class right now. A significant portion of its people is going hungry . That magic USD 1,200 check is not coming soon:
"the checks are not in the mail."And the problem isn't just in the USA. The periphery of Western Civilization is also going to suffer:
Germany and France: the sharpest contractions in national output for 75 years.
Germany's economy will shrink almost 10 per cent in the three months to June, according to the country's top economic research institutes, the sharpest decline since quarterly national accounts began in 1970 and double the size of the biggest drop in the 2008 financial crisis.The shutdown of vast swaths of economic activity to contain the spread of the pandemic is knocking 1.5 percentage points off French growth for every two weeks that it continues, the Banque de France warned on Wednesday.
After more than three weeks in lockdown, French economic output is expected to have fallen by the sharpest rate since the second world war, the central bank said, forecasting that gross domestic product contracted 6 per cent in the first three months of the year.
However, to the matter of Israel and the virus:Nathan Mulcahy , Apr 8 2020 14:18 utc | 29
I thought they were having strangely little impact from virus.Anyway, this is all very revealing.
You know how people always question:
Why did that woman remain in that abusive relationship?"US Department of Defense give 1 million masks to IDF for coronavirus use"Phryne's frock , Apr 8 2020 14:23 utc | 31MIGA
Get everyone you know to read "Against Our Better Judgment" by Alison Weir. Absolutely the best short, supereasy read to open eyes of those who are unaware that they are unaware, I promise. If you can afford to, buy copies to give away.red1chief , Apr 8 2020 14:34 utc | 32Very brief, "b", but one of your best posts. This is an unmitigated outrage. The arrogance of the ruling class knows no bounds, and they are acting with impunity. Seems the ruling class doesn't even care anymore how widely known it is that the US has little sovereignty.Circe , Apr 8 2020 14:41 utc | 35Is Trump charging for the masks or are they an added bonus to the 4 billion Israel already gets annually?In 2018 Trump cut all aid to UNRWA destined for Palestine.
Screw Trump. Palestinians have started producing their own masks; up to 50,000 per day as well as protective gowns.
Apr 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
And now, after the Trump Administration scrambled to ramp up testing capacity and the states worked with the Feds, private entities, and others (including in some cases foreign nations) to distribute ventilators as Gov. Andrew Cuomo painted a horrifying portrait of sickened New Yorkers suffocating to death in hospital hallways because there were no ventilators available.
Well, yesterday, NYC Mayor de Blasio said that, after a few days of near capacity numbers, hospitalizations have dropped by such a steep degree that the city believes it has enough ventilators on hand, and won't need any more.
Now on Thursday, Dr. Fauci is taking to cable news to spread the message of optimism that has lifted US stocks over the past few days: Instead of the 240k figure used by President Trump as recently as two weeks ago, Dr. Fauci told NBC News that if the public continued to stick to the "mitigation efforts", that the death toll might be as low as 60k.
Apr 08, 2020 | www.rt.com
The WHO had been made aware of Covid-19 by December last year. In January, it posted a tweet saying: "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in Wuhan, China."
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan , #China 🇨🇳. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG
-- World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) January 14, 2020Then in February, Ghebreyesus declared that there was no need for travel bans, saying the spread of the virus outside China was "minimal and slow." Fast forward to March 11, and Dr Tedros was telling the world that coronavirus was officially a pandemic and that he was "deeply concerned by alarming levels of inaction" as it spread. Days later, he tweeted that the "pandemic is accelerating."
Then, at a press conference, he said that "all countries should be able to test all suspected cases" because "they cannot fight this pandemic blindfolded." Perhaps if countries had been warned about the need for widespread testing sooner; they would have been better placed to implement such measures?
The #COVID19 pandemic is accelerating. It took 67 days from the 1st reported case to reach the first 100K cases, 11 days for the second 100K cases & just 4 days for the third 100K cases.These numbers matter, these are people, whose lives & families have been turned upside down. https://t.co/VydhLBNq36
-- Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus (@DrTedros) March 23, 2020Obviously, hindsight is 20/20 and it is very easy to criticize a person or an organization for not predicting something after it has happened. But the WHO should have been better prepared for this, not least because it already had experience of the spread of SARS, MERS, H5N1 and swine flu in recent years to draw on. Admittedly, none spread as virulently as Covid-19, but it was obvious from those outbreaks that measures such as testing and restricting travel would help slow the spread.
Perhaps it was concerned about again being accused of overreacting, as it had been by some in response to the 2009 swine flu outbreak. Possibly, it too readily believed the low figures being reported by China during the early part of this year. Maybe it assumed countries were more prepared to deal with pandemics than they turned out to be. Whatever the reasons may or may not be, the fact remains that when the world turned to the WHO, it failed. No amount of publicity stunts, like today's appearance by Lady Gaga, will change that.
WHO will have a special guest at today's #COVID19 press conference: @ladygaga will be joining us to announce the One World: #TogetherAtHome virtual global special on 18 April 2020. 📺 at 15.30 GMT
-- World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) April 6, 2020Exactly where in the organization's structure the blame lies is impossible for an outsider to say, but surely the buck must stop eventually with Dr Tedros. His messaging early on in this crisis hugely downplayed the risks and has without question led to a situation that at least had a chance of being avoided. When the dust has settled, and the virus is finally brought under control, a serious question will have to be asked: who can trust the WHO?
Apr 06, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
Leaders in the public and private sector in advanced economies, typically highly credentialed, have with very few exceptions shown abject incompetence in dealing with coronavirus as a pathogen and as a wrecker of economies. The US and UK have made particularly sorry showings, but they are not alone.It's become fashionable to blame the failure to have enough medical stockpiles and hospital beds and engage in aggressive enough testing and containment measures on capitalism. But as I will describe shortly, even though I am no fan of Anglosphere capitalism, I believe this focus misses the deeper roots of these failures.
After all the country lauded for its response, South Korea, is capitalist. Similarly, reader vlade points out that the Czech Republic has had only 2 coronavirus deaths per million versus 263 for Italy . Among other things, the Czech Republic closed its borders in mid-March and made masks mandatory . Newscasters and public officials wear them to underscore that no one is exempt.
Even though there are plenty of examples of capitalism gone toxic, such as hospitals and Big Pharma sticking doggedly to their price gouging ways or rampant production disruptions due to overly tightly-tuned supply chains, that isn't an adequate explanation. Government dereliction of duty also abound. In 2006, California's Governor Arnold Schwarznegger reacted to the avian flu by creating MASH on steroids. From the LA Times :
They were ready to roll whenever disaster struck California: three 200-bed mobile hospitals that could be deployed to the scene of a crisis on flatbed trucks and provide advanced medical care to the injured and sick within 72 hours.
Each hospital would be the size of a football field, with a surgery ward, intensive care unit and X-ray equipment. Medical response teams would also have access to a massive stockpile of emergency supplies: 50 million N95 respirators, 2,400 portable ventilators and kits to set up 21,000 additional patient beds wherever they were needed
"In light of the pandemic flu risk, it is absolutely a critical investment," he [Governor Schwarznegger] told a news conference. "I'm not willing to gamble with the people's safety."
They were dismantled in 2011 by Governor Jerry Brown as part of post-crisis belt tightening.
The US for decades has as a matter of policy tried to reduce the number of hospital beds, which among other things has led to the shuttering of hospitals, particularly in rural areas. Hero of the day, New York's Governor Andrew Cuomo pursued this agenda with vigor, as did his predecessor George Pataki.
And even though Trump has made bad decision after bad decision, from eliminating the CDC's pandemic unit to denying the severity of the crisis and refusing to use government powers to turbo-charge state and local medical responses, people better qualified than he is have also performed disastrously. America's failure to test early and enough can be laid squarely at the feet of the CDC. As New York Magazine pointed out on March 12:
In a functional system, much of the preparation and messaging would have been undertaken by the CDC. In this case, it chose not to simply adopt the World Health Organization's COVID-19 test kits -- stockpiling them in the millions in the months we had between the first arrival of the coronavirus in China and its widespread appearance here -- but to try to develop its own test. Why? It isn't clear. But they bungled that project, too, failing to produce a reliable test and delaying the start of any comprehensive testing program by a few critical weeks.
The testing shortage is catastrophic: It means that no one knows how bad the outbreak already is, and that we couldn't take effectively aggressive measures even we wanted to. There are so few tests available, or so little capacity to run them, that they are being rationed for only the most obvious candidates, which practically defeats the purpose. It is not those who are very sick or who have traveled to existing hot spots abroad who are most critical to identify, but those less obvious, gray-area cases -- people who may be carrying the disease around without much reason to expect they're infecting others Even those who are getting tested have to wait at least several days for results; in Senegal, where the per capita income is less than $3,000, they are getting results in four hours. Yesterday, apparently, the CDC conducted zero tests
[O]ur distressingly inept response, kept bringing to mind an essay by Umair Haque, first published in 2018 and prompted primarily by the opioid crisis, about the U.S. as the world's first rich failed state
And the Trump Administration has such difficulty shooting straight that it can't even manage its priority of preserving the balance sheets of the well off. Its small business bailouts, which are as much about saving those enterprises as preserving their employment, are off to a shaky start . How many small and medium sized ventures can and will maintain payrolls out of available cash when they aren't sure when and if Federal rescue money will hit their bank accounts?
How did the US, and quite a few other advanced economies, get into such a sorry state that we are lack the operational capacity to engage in effective emergency responses? Look at what the US was able to do in the stone ages of the Great Depression. As Marshall Auerback wrote of the New Deal programs :
The government hired about 60 per cent of the unemployed in public works and conservation projects that planted a billion trees, saved the whooping crane, modernized rural America, and built such diverse projects as the Cathedral of Learning in Pittsburgh, the Montana state capitol, much of the Chicago lakefront, New York's Lincoln Tunnel and Triborough Bridge complex, the Tennessee Valley Authority and the aircraft carriers Enterprise and Yorktown. It also built or renovated 2,500 hospitals, 45,000 schools, 13,000 parks and playgrounds, 7,800 bridges, 700,000 miles of roads, and a thousand airfields. And it employed 50,000 teachers, rebuilt the country's entire rural school system, and hired 3,000 writers, musicians, sculptors and painters, including Willem de Kooning and Jackson Pollock.
What are the deeper causes of our contemporary generalized inability to respond to large-scale threats? My top picks are a lack of respect for risk and the rise of symbol manipulation as the dominant means of managing in the private sector and government.
Risk? What Risk?
Thomas Hobbes argued that life apart from society would be "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short." Outside poor countries and communities, advances in science and industrialization have largely proven him right.
It was not long ago, in historical terms, that even aristocrats would lose children to accidents and disease. Only four of Winston Churchill's six offspring lived to be adults. Comparatively few women now die in childbirth.
But it isn't just that better hygiene, antibiotics, and vaccines have helped reduce the scourges of youth. They have also reduced the consequences of bad fortune. Fewer soldiers are killed in wars. More are patched up, so fewer come back in coffins and more with prosthetics or PTSD. And those prosthetics, which enable the injured to regain some of their former function, also perversely shield ordinary citizens from the spectacle of lost limbs. 1
Similarly, when someone is hit by a car or has a heart attack, as traumatic as the spectacle might be to onlookers, typically an ambulance arrives quickly and the victim is whisked away. Onlookers can tell themselves he's in good hands and hope for the best.
With the decline in manufacturing, fewer people see or hear of industrial accidents, like the time a salesman in a paper mill in which my father worked stuck his hand in a digester and had his arm ripped off. And many of the victims of hazardous work environments suffer from ongoing exposures, such as to toxic chemicals or repetitive stress injuries, so the danger isn't evident until it is too late.
Most also are oddly disconnected from the risks they routinely take, like riding in a car (I for one am pretty tense and vigilant when I drive on freeways, despite like to speed as much as most Americans). Perhaps it is due in part to the illusion of being in control while driving.
Similarly, until the coronavirus crisis, even with America's frayed social safety nets, most people, particularly the comfortably middle class and affluent, took comfort in appearances of normalcy and abundance. Stores are stocked with food. Unlike the oil crisis of the 1970, there's no worry about getting petrol at the pump. Malls may be emptying out and urban retail vacancies might be increasing, but that's supposedly due to the march of Amazon, and not anything amiss with the economy. After all, unemployment is at record lows, right?
Those who do go to college in America get a plush experience. No thin mattresses or only adequately kept-up dorms, as in my day. The notion that kids, even of a certain class, have to rough it a bit, earn their way up and become established in their careers and financially, seems to have eroded. Quite a few go from pampered internships to fast-track jobs. In the remote era of my youth, even in the prestigious firms, new hires were subjected to at least a couple of years of grunt work.
So the class of people with steady jobs (which these days are well-placed members of the professional managerial class, certain trades and those who chose low-risk employment with strong civil service protections) have also become somewhat to very removed from the risks endured when most people were subsistence farmers or small town merchants who served them.
Consider this disconnect, based on an Axios-Ipsos survey :
The coronavirus is spreading a dangerous strain of inequality. Better-off Americans are still getting paid and are free to work from home, while the poor are either forced to risk going out to work or lose their jobs.
Generally speaking, the people who are positioned to be least affected by coronavirus are the most rattled. That is due to the gap between expectations and the new reality. Poor people have Bad Shit Happen on a regular basis. Wealthy people expect to be able to insulate themselves from most of it and then have it appear in predictable forms, like cheating spouses and costly divorces, bad investments (still supposedly manageable if you are diversified!), renegade children, and common ailments, like heart attacks and cancer, where the rich better the odds by advantaged access to care.
The super rich are now bunkered, belatedly realizing they can't set up ICUs at home, and hiring guards to protect themselves from marauding hordes, yet uncertain that their mercenaries won't turn on them.
The bigger point is that we've had a Minksy-like process operating on a society-wide basis: as daily risks have declined, most people have blinded themselves to what risk amounts to and where it might surface in particularly nasty forms. And the more affluent and educated classes, who disproportionately constitute our decision-makers, have generally been the most removed.
The proximity to risk goes a long way to explaining who has responded better. As many have pointed out, the countries that had meaningful experience with SARS 2 had a much better idea of what they were up against with the coronavirus and took aggressive measures faster.
But how do you explain South Korea, which had only three cases of SARS and no deaths? It doesn't appear to have had enough experience with SARS to have learned from it.
A related factor may be that developing economies have fresh memories of what life was like before they became affluent. I can't speak for South Korea, but when I worked with the Japanese, people still remembered the "starving times" right after World War II. Japan was still a poor country in the 1960s. 3 South Korea rose as an economic power after Japan. The Asian Tigers were also knocked back on their heels with the 1997 emerging markets crisis. And of course Seoul is in easy nuke range of North Korea. It's the only country I ever visited, including Israel, where I went through a metal detector to enter and saw lots of soldiers carrying machine guns in the airport. So they likely have a keen appreciation of how bad bad can be.
The Rise and Rise of the Symbol Economy
Let me start with an observation by Peter Drucker that I read back in the 1980s, but will then redefine his take on "symbol economy," because I believe the phenomenon has become much more pervasive than he envisioned.
A good recap comes in Fragile Finance: Debt, Speculation and Crisis in the Age of Global Credit by A. Nesvetailova:
The most significant transformation for Drucker was the changed relationship between the symbolic economy of capital movements, exchange rates, and credit flows, and the real economy of the flow of goods and services:
in the world economy of today, the 'real economy' of goods and services and the 'symbol economy' of money, credit, and capital are no longer bound tightly to each other; they are indeed, moving further and further apart (1986: 783)
The rise of the financial sphere as the flywheel of the world economy, Drucker noted, is both the most visible and the least understood change of modern capitalism.
What Drucker may not have sufficiently appreciated was money and capital flows are speculative and became more so over time. In their study of 800 years of financial crises, Carmen Reinhart and Ken Rogoff found that high levels of international capital flows were strongly correlated with more frequent and more severe financial crises. Claudio Borio and Petit Disyatat of the Banks of International Settlements found that on the eve of the 2008 crisis, international capital flows were 61 times as large as trade flows, meaning they were only trivially settling real economy transactions.
Now those factoids alone may seem to offer significant support to Drucker's thesis. But I believe he conceived of it too narrowly. I believe that modeling techniques, above all, spreadsheet-based models, have removed decision-makers from the reality of their decisions. If they can make it work on paper, they believe it will work that way.
When I went to business school and started on Wall Street, financiers and business analysts did their analysis by hand, copying information from documents and performing computations with calculators. It was painful to generate financial forecasts, since one error meant that everything to the right was incorrect and had to be redone.
The effect was that when managers investigated major capital investments and acquisitions, they thought hard about the scenarios they wanted to consider since they could look at only a few. And if a model turned out an unfavorable-looking result, that would be hard to rationalize away, since a lot of energy had been devoted to setting it up.
By contrast, when PCs and Visicalc hit the scene, it suddenly became easy to run lots of forecasts. No one had any big investment in any outcome. And spending so much time playing with financial models would lead most participants to a decision to see the model as real, when it was a menu, not a meal.
When reader speak with well-deserved contempt of MBA managers, the too-common belief that it is possible to run an operation, any operation, by numbers, appears to be a root cause. For over five years, we've been running articles from the Health Renewal Blog decrying the rise of "generic managers" in hospital systems (who are typically also spectacularly overpaid) who proceed to grossly mismanage their operations yet still rake in the big bucks.
The UK version of this pathology is more extreme, because it marries managerial overconfidence with a predisposition among British elites to look at people who work hard as "must not be sharp." But the broad outlines apply here. From Clive, on a Brexit post, when Brexit was the poster child of UK elite incompetence :
What's struck me most about the UK government's approach to the practical day-to-day aspects of Brexit is that it is exemplifying a typically British form of managerialism which bedevilles both public sector and private sector organisations. It manifests itself in all manner of guises but the main characteristic is that some "leader" issues impractical, unworkable, unachievable or contradictory instructions (or a "strategy") to the lower ranks. These lower ranks have been encouraged to adopt the demeanour of yes-men (or yes-women). So you're not allowed to question the merits of the ask. Everyone keeps quiet and takes the paycheck while waiting for the roof to fall in on them. It's not like you're on the breadline, so getting another year or so in isn't a bad survival attitude. If you make a fuss now, you'll likely be replaced by someone who, in the leadership's eyes is a lot more can-do (but is in fact just either more naive or a better huckster).
Best illustrated perhaps by an example -- I was asked a day or two ago to resolve an issue I'd reported using "imaginative" solutions. Now, I've got a a vivid imagination, but even that would not be able to comply with two mutually contradictory aims at the same time ("don't incur any costs for doing some work" and "do the work" -- where because we've outsourced the supply of the services in question, we now get real, unhideable invoices which must be paid).
To the big cheeses, the problem is with the underlings not being sufficiently clever or inventive. The real problem is the dynamic they've created and their inability to perceive the changes (in the same way as swinging a wrecking ball is a "change") they've wrought on an organisation.
May, Davies, Fox, the whole lousy lot of 'em are like the pilot in the Airplane movie -- they're pulling on the levers of power only to find they're not actually connected to anything. Wait until they pull a little harder and the whole bloody thing comes off in their hands.
Americans typically do this sort of thing with a better look: the expectations are usually less obviously implausible, particularly if they might be presented to the wider world. One of the cancers of our society is the belief that any problem can be solved with better PR, another manifestation of symbol economy thinking.
I could elaborate further on how these attitudes have become common, such as the ability of companies to hide bad operating results and them come clean every so often as if it were an extraordinary event, short job tenures promoting "IBG/YBG" opportunism, and the use of lawyers as liability shields (for the execs, not the company, natch).
But it's not hard to see how it was easy to rationalize away the risks of decisions like globalization. Why say no to what amounted to a transfer from direct factory labor to managers and execs? Offshoring and outsourcing were was sophisticated companies did. Wall Street liked them. Them gave senior employees an excuse to fly abroad on the company dime. So what if the economic case was marginal? So what if the downside could be really bad? What Keynes said about banker herd mentality applies:
A sound banker, alas! is not one who foresees danger and avoids it, but one who, when he is ruined, is ruined in a conventional and orthodox way along with his fellows, so that no one can really blame him.
It's not hard to see how a widespread societal disconnect of decision-makers from risk, particularly health-related risks, compounded with management by numbers as opposed to kicking the tires, would combine to produce lax attitude toward operations in general.
I believe a third likely factor is poor governance practices, and those have gotten generally worse as organizations have grown in scale and scope. But there is more country-specific nuance here, and I can discuss only a few well, so adding this to my theory will have to hold for another day. But it isn't hard to think of some in America. For instance, 40 years ago, there were more midsized companies, with headquarters in secondary cities like Dayton, Ohio. Executives living in and caring about their reputation in their communities served as a check on behavior.
Before you depict me as exaggerating about the change in posture toward risks, I recall reading policy articles in the 1960s where officials wrung their hands about US dependence on strategic materials found only in unstable parts of Africa. That US would never have had China make its soldiers' uniforms, boots, and serve as the source for 80+ of the active ingredients in its drugs. And America was most decidedly capitalist in the 1960s. So we need to look at how things have changed to explain changes in postures towards risk and notions of what competence amounts to.
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1 One of my early memories was seeing a one-legged man using a crutch, with the trouser of his missing leg pinned up. I pointed to him and said something to my parents and was firmly told never to do anything like that again.2 The US did not learn much from its 33 cases . But the lack of fatalities may have contributed.
3 Japan has had a pretty lame coronavirus response, but that is the result of Japan's strong and idiosyncratic culture. While Japanese are capable of taking action individually when they are isolated, in group settings, no one wants to act or even worse take responsibility unless their is an accepted or established protocol.
PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 7:15 am
Ian Walsh has a good take on it – he ascribes it to a new aristocracy, which has all the vices of the old aristocracy.
Let's chalk this up to aristocratic elites. Aristocrats, unlike nobles, are decadent, but don't stop with that word; understand what it means.
Elites who are not aligned with the actual productive activities of society and are engaged primarily in activities which are contrary to production, are decadent. This was true in Ancien Regime France (and deliberately fostered by Louis XIV as a way of emasculating the nobility). It is true today of most Western elites; they concentrate on financial numbers, and not on actual production. Even those who are somewhat competent tend not to be truly productive: see the Waltons, who made their money as distributers–merchants.
The techies have mostly outsourced production; they don't make things, they design them. That didn't work out for England in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and it hasn't worked well for the US, though thanks to Covid-19 and US fears surrounding China, the US may re-shore their production capacity before it is too late.
I think there is also a lot to be said for historical (and current) memories of crisis. Both South Korea and Taiwan are countries on a near permanent war footage – both have genuine reasons to fear an external attack (this is particularly visible in South Korea – bomb shelters and warnings everywhere). They are simply at a higher level of alert than most countries and take civil defence very seriously. Much the same applies to Vietnam.
I've noticed here that so far as I can see, the response in Ireland has been significantly better than the UK, despite the NHS being a far better system than the rickety, unequal, and notoriously bureaucratic Irish system. I've noticed that a lot of the official response has revived old protocols for TB and Polio – both diseases that ravaged Ireland into living memory – most old doctors of my acquaintance here will tell you horror stories and I grew up knowing people crippled from polio. While in the UK its fair to say I think that such horrors have slipped out of bureaucratic memory. People talk about the War, but in reality they have no real memory of the horrors of seeing neighbours die. So I think there is a lot to be said for simple institutional memory and practice allowing some countries to respond that big quicker. And with this virus even just 2-3 weeks extra preparation could have made all the difference to a country or region.
NotTimothyGeithner , April 6, 2020 at 9:58 am
And they don't have to live where they are from anymore. When Tony Blair wants positive attention, he jets off to the US or Israel. Claire McCaskill lost a statewide race when the same electorate passed a minimum wage increase and legalized at least medical Marijuana. She now opines on Comcast PR about elections.
PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:26 am
That does make a difference. After the Celtic Tiger crash in Ireland, the PM (Bertie Ahern) who was largely responsible ended up banned from his regular pub where he was well known to have a pint every evening after his day job. The owner explained that if he didn't bar him, he'd lose the rest of his customers.
Mind you, like all the others he still makes a living on the public speaking circuit and his chiklit writer daughter got a mysteriously large book deal from a Murdoch owned publisher..
Cat Burglar , April 6, 2020 at 11:10 am
The Irish case is interesting, because the performance of the state in recent times has been anything but competent. The bank bailout and the cervical cancer cases allowed by the botched testing program are examples. I remember a Morgan Kelly lecture where he said, "We don't do competence in Ireland. You start holding people responsible and you might get some of the 'wrong' people."
The Irish leadership stratum so far looks as if it has done a better job than even the US. Your point about the living memory TB and Polio -- in the 50s, my aunt and uncle, visiting from the US, were advised by the priest not to go to mass because of the danger of picking up TB -- rings true. I wonder if the recent fails by the state, that seem to have left the public abidingly angry (the bailout) and aghast (authorities letting women die of cervical cancer ) have shown elites that they have no political room to fail this time, and that they must show tangible success.
DJG , April 6, 2020 at 11:20 am
Plutonium Kun: Thanks for re-posting the Ian Welsh essay, which was posted at Naked Capitalism a couple days ago–and which has been on my mind since I read it then. I recall that when I was living on the North Shore, the belt of rich suburbs north of Chicago, on a whimsy for a few years, the prevailing stance in dealing with others was a kind of genial incompetence. Shortly after, I returned to Chicago for some grit and consequences.
I woke up this morning thinking of this example of the decadence (a term Welsh describes): The serious person Hillary Clinton opining on something or other. Where is serious person, and vision of competence, Hillary Clinton these days? Why isn't she advocating for the little people? Or at least for her slobbering fan club? Or hoping for another soft-ball interview that doesn't ask what it was like to be Bill's bag-man all those years as they raked in the moolah?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/
Unfortunately, in Italy, the Hillary Clinton of Italian politics, Matteo Renzi, hasn't taken heavy hints to go away.
Synoia , April 6, 2020 at 12:43 pm
It is hard to distinguish between incompetence and fraud.
I personally believe much that looks incompetent conceals fraud.
HotFlash , April 6, 2020 at 2:09 pm
It's not that hard. Follow the money.
divadab , April 6, 2020 at 7:18 am
The incompetence is a symptom of a morally-degenerate managerial class Infected with bad ideas and having no sense of responsibility to anyone other than themselves. They plan out quarter by quarter, loot their companies instead of investing in them, and lie habitually. This is CORRUPTION. Consider that the ex-CEO of GE, with all his hundreds of millions garnered by cheating GE employees and offshoring their jobs, looting company funds to enrich himself and his co-conspirators, was also a tax cheat, buying art for his NY city palace but claiming it was for his abode in NH and evading NY sales tax. Committing fraud to evade his fair share. A better model for what ails US America cannot be found than this scum.
And note that Boeing moved its headquarters to Chicago "to be more like GE". Well they've destroyed the company to be more like the looters and liars and cheats. Nice work if you can get it.
Yves Smith Post author , April 6, 2020 at 7:40 am
This post is not just about the private sector. State and local governments are primarily responsible for public health.
Your theory does not explain Jerry Brown killing the Schwarznegger emergency response apparatus.
Nor is it adequate to respond to the general idea that "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence". Even though it is obvious that America has a lot of corruption, you omit the notion that a lot of stupid will also explain much of what we are seeing now.
eyebear , April 6, 2020 at 8:09 am
Thank for your article – due to that we humans tend to compare us to each other, we are prone to error. Why shouldn't we do, what the others do?
And that's were the incompetence gets it's grip on. Here in Germany we just avoided the closure of smaller hospitals, because they are not efficient enough – now we are the lucky ones with the higher number of beds and ICU's and ecma and so on.That's not only luck, but the preachers of the neoliberal agenda have a hardship nowadays – and 'we, the people' have a minimum of two years to redesign our societies.
c_heale , April 6, 2020 at 8:23 am
Maybe the Dead Kennedys had it right about Jerry Brown in California Über Alles
Cat Burglar , April 6, 2020 at 10:22 am
They did have it right!
But remember, too, that Brown showed in his first term, in the 70s, that he was a textbook case of being one of Stoller's progressive post-Watergate Democrats that set aside New Deal programs and regulation. I remember his deregulation of intrastate trucking from that time, which the highly unionized truckers opposed. Come quietly to The Gap
I think one of the problems is that financialization and securitization of everything has effectively separated the managerial class in both private and public sector from knowledge and experience of actual logistics and execution.Transferring securities with the push of a button is not the same as getting an industrial plant or phone center built, trained, and running efficiently. Companies and organizations with a history of doing this well can completely undo that capability in only a couple of years (e.g. CDC, FEMA, numerous companies taken over by PE). While my examples below are US-based, I think a lot of the same thought processes have been going on in much of the OECD (e.g. Brexit debacle).
Once everything is measured in dollars with a maximum of a 1 to 5 years window, then it becomes really easy to just focus on the little ball needed to become really "efficient" without thinking about the bigger societal picture. I think the generations that grew up in WW I, 19189-19 Flu, Prohibition, Great Depression, WW II had a much bigger picture of life and society. In some respects, things like Vietnam, were an over-reaction (like immune system going haywire) but on the whole, there was a big focus for 50 years on the potential for really big, bad things to happen. Once the Berlin Wall fell, much of that dissipated and so the shocks that come are generally responded to with a combination of bewilderment, lack of general interest unless it personally impacts you, or the immune system going wild (Iraq invasion, torture).
As a result, you get bulls*#t like this from people like Fed Governor Bullard: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-bullard-says-there-is-good-news-for-those-worried-about-the-economys-future-that-universal-covid-19-testing-will-help-restore-economic-health-2020-04-05?mod=home-page
He wants universal daily testing of all Americans to prove daily they can be out and about. This is in a country that can't figure out how to have half the country vote without standing in lines for hours or hasn't been able to figure out how to even get sick people tested and waiting a week or more more for the test results to come back. Granted, the 15 minute tests mean that it might be possible to set up a lemonade stand at the entrance to every subdivision or subway station for people to get their daily test. The logistical undertaking to do this would be mammoth, although there are at least lots of unemployed people who could get several months of training to learn how to do such a test.
Once everything is measured in dollars with a maximum of a 1 to 5 years window, then it becomes really easy to just focus on the little ball needed to become really "efficient" without thinking about the bigger societal picture. I think the generations that grew up in WW I, 19189-19 Flu, Prohibition, Great Depression, WW II had a much bigger picture of life and society. In some respects, things like Vietnam, were an over-reaction (like immune system going haywire) but on the whole, there was a big focus for 50 years on the potential for really big, bad things to happen. Once the Berlin Wall fell, much of that dissipated and so the shocks that come are generally responded to with a combination of bewilderment, lack of general interest unless it personally impacts you, or the immune system going wild (Iraq invasion, torture).
I am a design engineer and I have found it is really difficult to get people to engage in real discussions of potential risks and solutions. Generally the only thing that anybody wants to know is "What will it cost to be prepared?" Almost nobody wants to talk about low probability, high impact events because that generally would not show up in the 1-5 years time limit people care about.
Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 11:43 am
low probability – high impact events and human nature. We just went thru a surprising 5.6 earthquake – I'm pretty sure we were ground zero because it not only shook the house like a hurricane for 4 seconds, there was also the sound of a very loud explosion. Sometimes earthquakes make booms like that. If it had lasted another 2 or 3 seconds the roof would have come down; the gas lines would have pulled apart; the plumbing would have been disabled and etc. But we just went, Well that was interesting. Lucky there was no damage. Probably not worth taking out earthquake insurance – it's so expensive.
Anon , April 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm
State and local government ARE responsible for public health. The local people running those agencies do not control their budgets. With insufficient funds their experience and qualifications are wasted by scrambling for stop-gap methods. The political leaders (Governors, mostly.) are most to blame. So the next time folks are choosing at the ballot box remember that public health needs vigoroous funding.
As for the incompetence of "managers" and the credentialed, it occurs everywhere in organizations in America, and beyond. A paycheck is essential while "speaking up" is dangerous. See: Captain Crozier. Most folks are neither secure enough financially or academically to voice a contrasting observation.
Yves, this was an excellent post. Decidedly pointed. There are few who dare to take this challenge. That is why NC is so important. Stay safe!
Felix_47 , April 6, 2020 at 11:00 am
Are you sure you don't mean Dennis Koslowsky (spelled something like that) who was a CPA from New Jersey and ran Tyco? At least he did some jail time. The smart ones figure out how to cheat legally by hiring the well connected white shoe Ivy League lawyers. That is not to say that GE was not mismanaged but it really was done in by the finance crisis because Jack Welch bet the company on it which worked really well for a long time until it did not which covered up the fact that manufacturing in the US is essentially impossible secondary to the legal system and the health care system, or lack thereof.
Clive , April 6, 2020 at 11:02 am
If only it was as simple as saying that services operated by the state were fine, it's private capital where the problem lies.
It's not. This is a societal and cultural problem.
There are employer "pushes" towards the deskilling and degrading of levels of operational competence. One is employers ( both public sector and private sector) do not want to pay for training and to retain a body of experienced employees because both of these cost money up-front with a payoff (in the form of competent, knowledgeable staff) that comes only slowly, later. And a churn of staff is seen as the sign, wrongly, but this is what the MBAs sell as snake oil, of a dynamic, healthy organisation which is bringing in (through a process which never seems to be adequately explained) new talent. Plus, of course, most obviously, younger and newer employees are cheaper so your average headcount cost is lower which is usually a management metric -- often one which is incentive-ised through reward.
There are also employee "pulls" -- and again, these are not just observed in the private sector. You see them in medicine, academia and even, most bizarrely, the arts. An example of these employee-instigated causes of a reduction in capability is that it becomes in-cultural-ated that if you spend too long in the same place, you're only doing so out of necessity because you're so useless, no-one else will employ you. So even if don't really want to move onto a different organisation or a different field of work outside your skillset, you feel you have to, in order to avoid looking "stale", "resistant to change", "stuck in your comfort zone" or any other of the myriad of thought-crimes which you don't want, in today's job market, to be seen to having evidence of committing. And also, as collective union bargaining has gone the way of the dinosaur, more often than not, if you want a raise you have to threaten to quit to get one. But again, more often than not, your current employer will call your bluff and let you leave. So you have to have another job lined up to to go to, if you're not to fall into a trap of flouncing off in a huff but having no other work to walk straight into. While your current employer might not, if they were honest, want to lose you, the dynamics of the workplace being what they are, neither side can then climb down from the ultimatums they've just served.
Yes, there are some notable poster-children of how private enterprise has committed suicide through the wanton bloodletting of its skilled employees (Boeing being a recent case-in-point). But even if you cast your gaze in the direction of public employers, this same phenomena can be found in universities, colleges and K-12 schools (where faculties are no longer bolstered by a strong bench of tenured staff, contract and non-tenured hire-and-fire disposable staff are now the norm, I won't even go there on the effect of charter schools) healthcare (even in the UK's entirely public sector NHS, there is huge reliance on contract and agency staff which the COVID-19 crisis has highlighted and the government is trying, belatedly and without any clear indication it can do so in the short term to redress this and avoid being price-gouged). Or federal and state regulators which now simply do not understand the businesses they are supposed to be regulating and have to buy-in external "expertise" (and merely exacerbate the revolving door problem).
In summary, I wish it were so simple to merely say "private sector bad, government good". But the rot has set in from top to bottom across all aspects of how we manage our shared organisational maturity (or, should I say, now, fix our shared organisational immaturity) and whether or not it started in the private sector, it has well and truly spread to infect the public sector, too. This was the unmistakable point of the post, so it bears re-reading it again with a particular emphasis on understanding why this is the case.
Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 12:00 pm
devolution by automation. the dystopia we didn't see coming. can't help believing that automation itself – even though it has often been, or seemed to be, beneficial – hasn't undermined and/or destroyed what should be a collective human intelligence and contagious creativity that is the real thing that makes us thrive. But it takes a long steady progression and we're all too impatient.
David in Santa Cruz , April 6, 2020 at 12:35 pm
Terrific comment, Clive.
In my experience working as a lawyer in government service for 34 years, I saw this obsession with "new blood" and "innovation" flooding the system with lawyers -- and judges -- who were breezily ignorant of the law, yet supremely confident in their own cleverness.
University faculties dominated by TA's and adjuncts; charter schools taught by 6-week-wonder TFA's; warships piloted by teenagers; Presidents with no experience in government The list goes on and on.
I blame the instant and consequence-free ego gratification of television-watching for this phenomenon.
Laura in SoCal , April 6, 2020 at 1:20 pm
100% on the employer pushes. I've seen this plenty in my 25 years of working in engineering and manufacturing businesses. And no matter how many "systems" and "quality functions" they put in place, experience matters. In has happened several times that even with great and detailed documentation, when a particular machinist retires, a product line starts having quality issues. Several times we've had layoffs for some reason or another and they have to bring particular individuals back because there was some function they did that no one else is qualified or able to do. Also, because we run lean, cross training is difficult no one has the extra time.
Rob Urie , April 6, 2020 at 7:38 am
Prior to the advent of neoliberalism and through it child mortality rates have been much higher in the U.S. than other OECD countries.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/health/child-mortality-rates-by-country-study-intl/index.html
It is very heavily concentrated among the poor.
The refusal to provide public goods is capitalist class relations 101.
Yves Smith Post author , April 6, 2020 at 7:48 am
It is disappointing to see these early comments ignore the framing of the post and go for simplistic takes.
I said at the top that this post was about advanced economies that had poor coronavirus responses, not just the US. That includes Belgium, France, and the Netherlands, all of which have much higher fatalities per capita than the US. None of those countries have high rates of infant mortality.
Try again.
False Solace , April 6, 2020 at 1:49 pm
That's a bit optimistic.You could argue Belgium and the Netherlands have already plateaued in terms of new cases and deaths. For France the numbers are not as clear thanks to a one-day spike in reported nursing home cases. But the US has shown clear exponential growth in both new cases and deaths thru today. I don't think the data is in.
For the last week the US has reported 20-30k new cases a day which means the deaths won't hit for another 1-2 weeks. The number of tests is comparable to the other countries you listed, so it isn't a matter of overdiagnosis. The East Coast is the only region in the US doing meaningful testing.
It's not farfetched to think the US will experience a uniquely bad result in terms of health care and economic outcomes because of its uniquely bad health care system and elite indifference. Never attribute to malice or indifference that which can be adequately explained by indifference. Malice is too difficult to prove, and when it comes to enriching themselves, elites are demonstrably competent. What they are, is indifferent. They simply don't care about long term outcomes or their population. For them, everything is consequence free. Coronavirus is just another example in the litany.
bmeisen , April 6, 2020 at 11:36 am
2 models dominate the informed universal health care coverage debate: 1) a purely public (state) model, as in the UK and Italy, in which financing for health care costs is located in the federal budget where it is allocated from a stream of tax revenues and financing sources; and 2) a highly regulated non-profit (non-state) model, as in most of Scandinavia and central Europe, in which financing is located in a pool of premiums and when needed, e.g. for the very young, poor, elderly who cannot afford to pay premiums, state subsidies.
A variation on 2) is a hybrid of non-profits and private, profit-oriented insurers, as in Germany and the Netherlands, in which the mix is critical and is subject to regulation. Something like 90% non-profit, 10% private is IMHO OK though in Germany it might be more like 70/30.
The EU has been blamed for the devastation caused by Covid-19 in Italy. The argument goes something like, the austerity imposed by the Germans forced Italy to reduce health care capacities. The Frankfurter Allgemeine argues today that ECB imposed austerity is not to blame. Rather the purely state model of financing for health care coverage is at fault. The fact is that in the Italian model many stakeholders want a share of the stream of tax revenues and financing sources from which funds for the provision of health care are also drawn. The FAZ notes that Italian state retirement benefits have risen substantially in recent years while funding for health care has been level.
Christopher Herbert , April 6, 2020 at 7:48 am
The rise of the FIRE sectors as a percentage of GDP has been obvious. We are over-financialized. All this has done is over lay a very expensive layer of debt and interest payments on the real economy. This is the bubble the pandemic pricked.
Yves Smith Post author , April 6, 2020 at 7:59 am
Again, this post is not about the US. It is about trying to develop theories as to why some countries responded reasonably well to the coronavirus crisis and others not.
Italy's banking sector, even with its dud loans not written down, is 1.5 trillion euros v. a GDP of about 1.9 trillion euros, or 79% of GDP. Unlike the US, Italy does not have a ginormous securities market nor a big asset management business, so its banking industry is pretty much the only game in town except for government bond issuance. By contrast, in the US, banks are a way smaller proportion of financial activity (they represent <15% of non-farm private loans) but even banking assets alone are a higher % of GDP, 94%.
Your explanation does not fit key facts. Italy, one of the very worst hit countries, is not heavily financialized. It is also dominated by medium and small businesses
NotTimothyGeithner , April 6, 2020 at 9:45 am
Besides the new aristocracy aspects and a general lack of accountability, I do wonder about rates of foreign elites being "educated" in the US. When my parents go to Boston, all they do is complain about how nice it is, but they remember when the nice areas were where regular people lived. Like US tourists think all Europeans take high speed trains to work, how much of Euro attitudes by seeing the rise of enclaves in the US?
I'll use UVA and Charlottesville Virginia, but if you never go beyond Preston Ave (gentrification may have shifted it) away from Grounds, why would a student see poor people or any lower class employees beyond UVA employees who aren't making a living wage? Charlottesville has the highest rate of wealth inequality in the state.
John , April 6, 2020 at 7:51 am
Thank you. You analyze it. For years I have called it "playing video games". Years ago I knew a guy who said it did not matter of what but he had to be a manager.It was some sort of prestige thing for him. Took him out of the common herd in his way of looking at things.
Yesterday, I read Paul Johnson's short biography of Winston Churchill. Churchill did not like desk work according to Johnson and every new task he undertook, he went out and learned the ins and outs of it. He was a relentless inspector and questioner. He taught himself how to lay bricks. He learned by doing and led from knowledge. He made mistakes. He took responsibility. Certainly he was not a typical person, but neither did he sit in an office assuming he knew it all because the model said he did.vlade , April 6, 2020 at 7:58 am
That is why Boris Johnson is no Churchill. Churchill was in a lots of was a dilletante, but he was an informed dilletante. He had hunger to learn, maybe too much of it to be good at anything.
Johnson's hunger is just to be in the news, to make a history. I do wonder whether he still believes it worth it now, or in a short future as he's being sedated for intubation (which would not surprise me).
vlade , April 6, 2020 at 7:56 am
I do not really have much to add to what you write Yves. The "we lost sense of danger" is something I have thought of for a long time. IMO, every system that loses feedback will crash, sooner or later. We have worked really hard to remove not just the feedback, but any traces of the feedback.
Everyone who asks for *real* feedback is looked at as a weirdo. We need to know shit happens, we need to have bad shit happen to us now and then (speaking as one who had some really bad shit happen).
One place you can learn about society is how it treats its kids. Most of the kids today are way more cosied that even I ever was, and it's getting worse. We want to remove any and all dangers, and we go to anyone who promises us that, even if we really know it's not possible.
But we have to be very careful there. I believe that claims "we need suffering" are bulshit, because most of the time they want to say that suffering is good for us. It's not. It _may_ be necessary to remind us that bad stuff can happen, the same way as pain does. But it doesn't mean we'd use it to excuse suffering.
Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 8:10 am
: Grand strategy, according to Boyd, is a quest to isolate your enemy's (a nation-state or a global terrorist network) thinking processes from connections to the external/reference environment. This process of isolation is essentially the imposition of insanity on a group. To wit: any organism that operates without reference to external stimuli (the real world), falls into a destructive cycle of false internal dialogues. These corrupt internal dialogues eventually cause dissolution and defeat.
[John Robb, globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2004/05/journal_boyd_on.html]
Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 8:22 am
Taleb Nassim on Skin in the Game:
For the central attribute is symmetry: the balancing of incentives and disincentives, people should also penalized if something for which they are responsible goes wrong and hurts others: he or she who wants a share of the benefits needs to also share some of the risks.
. . .
And in the absence of the filtering of skin in the game, the mechanisms of evolution fail: if someone else dies in your stead, the built up of asymmetric risks and misfitness will cause the system to eventually blow-up.
[medium.com/incerto/what-do-i-mean-by-skin-in-the-game-my-own-version-cc858dc73260]
vlade , April 6, 2020 at 8:38 am
Taleb's skin in the game ignores the disincentives the skin-in-the-game creates, which are often fat-tailed.
Feedback is not the same as skin-in-the-game.
Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 9:30 am
I read your use of feedback as >reference to external stimuli (the real world).
With Taleb, I'm reading disincentives as penalties, and that lack of penalty/punishment warps the selection process of evolution. With respect to the post, that has created a lack of respect for risk by those who make decisions.
It can be taken a step farther, that the selection process has created perverse incentives. For example, the bailouts from 2008 made the FIRE sector qliphotically antifragile. In that scenario, risk becomes rewarding.
I want to be careful here about using the word feedback, its ambiguities could be confusing. Given that, I'm interested in knowing what you mean about ignoring the disincentives skin-in-the-game creates. Could you please expand on that?
vlade , April 6, 2020 at 10:07 am
Feedback as reference to external stimuli is ok.
My problem with Taleb's skin in the game is that, as he well knows, it's hard to distinguish luck (good or bad) and skill. How can we punish for luck though?
Think of a judge, who gets, through his skill, 99 out of 100 cases right. But the 100th – which, by pure luck, could be really large case – he gets wrong.
Or, even simpler. Technically, if you do one decision a day, and have 99% success rate, every three months you get somethign wrong (1-0.99^60 = 0.54) more likely than not. Should you be punished for this? If we yes, then people will start takin decisions where alternate history is hard to prove, i.e. you create a selection bias towards "do nothing". You can then be punished for "doing nothing" but most of the time "do nothing" is a safe choice. (it's a specific case of "go with the crowd")
Also, in decision making, context is extremely important (which is why courts go to super lenghts to establish it in judical cases). Taleb should know it, and he should also know that unless context is taken into account _in_full_ then the skin-in-the-game will not be seen as fair. But the problem is, the context can never be fully established, and rarely w/o the participation of the major decision maker. Who will have no incentive to participate. Which will hamper learning from it.
Skin in the game makes sense when you can clearly separate luck and skill, and clearly establish context. Even one of those is rare occasion, both is extremely so.
That said, you can often establish post fact when someone blew up (this is what the various enuiries do). And then you'd treat accordingly. But that's not skin-in-the-game, because again, the enquiry can establish that you acted in good faith, as most people would act at the time – and so assign no blame. So you may "fail honourably".
Skin in the game does not let you fail honourably – because it's not skin in the game anymore (because it can let you game the system again, via doing just enough to pass any future enquiry as "more could have been done, but there's no clear knowing dereliction of duty).
TLDR; skin-in-the-game is an attempt at simplictic solution to a complex problem. Taleb should know better.
Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 10:58 am
Thanks, vlade. I shall ponder this.
funemployed , April 6, 2020 at 9:13 am
"Most of the kids today are way more cosied"
I'd like to expand on this a bit, as I think it's deeply related Yves' point on risk and perceptions of risk. Far as I can tell, notions about parenting changed very drastically in the 80's when
1) mainstream media companies discovered that endlessly replaying (and sometimes plain inventing) lurid tales of horrible things happening to children was good for ratings and required no real journalistic effort or talent.
And 2) I'm not exactly sure how to describe what I'm trying to say, but somehow both responsibility for rare and terrible tragedies along with childrens' and young adults' agency got transferred to their parents. As if everything that happened to a child or that a child did resulted directly from the adequacy of parenting received.
So rather than cozied (which I think of has having all one's needs met and being protected from awfulness – a good thing), I think many children are micromanaged, isolated from authentic social interactions, and perhaps worst of all, taught that profound questions of morality and existence are best ignored (lest they cause distress). This, along with cultivating an intense desire for approval from authority, seems to have become the default mode of preparing children for membership in the privileged classes.
Somehow though, at the same time, we were also taught that our life situation is also wholly the result of our qualities as people. Wondering about a person's station in life? We were taught not to ask "what happened" but "what kind of person are they?" Are they smart or dumb, cultured or trashy, attractive or loathsome? Unnattractive and trashy but rich, they must be really really smart.
I think this combination of dramatically limiting children's opportunities for growth in competence, confidence, friendships, independence, morality, worldview, and all the other things that go into discovering who you are and where you fit in the world, combined with relentless meritocratic mythologizing have raised a couple generations now that are both terrified of risks yet somehow often heedless of the consequences of their decisions. We're terrified to speak up in a meeting, but if the result of that meeting harms a lot of people, well, not our fault, just how the world is.
All that said, there aren't many power brokers I can think of under the age of 65, so maybe all this generational analysis is beside the point. Have the powers that be always been so old?
vlade , April 6, 2020 at 9:25 am
The powerbrokers are (often) elected by the people. Who may be looking for a father figure, rather than anything else. Someone who would take the responsbilities for them, because they are too hard to bear (you'd argue that some poor don't vote because they don't feel the need to offload their responsibilities on others, but it could be a bit overconvoluted – I think most humans want to dump responsiblity elsewhere).
How to truly accept responsibility for ourselves is IMO one of the most important things we'd teach out kids, and that we're failing to do so (myself included). It's hard, and paradoxicaly, our society made it harder.
funemployed , April 6, 2020 at 9:43 am
I think all I described has been hard on parents too. IMO, parents are only the primary teachers of children in the early years before peers and society take over. To the extent neoliberalism has a pedagogical philosophy, it's that we can't control things we do have power over, and can control things we don't have power over. Love and accept your kids, treat them with respect, listen, help them when you can, and make sure to laugh together from time to time, and you'll be a parent I'd envy the children of.
mpalomar , April 6, 2020 at 11:09 am
"notions about parenting changed very drastically in the 80's"
– Brings to mind a long ago article regarding children raised in hunter-gatherer units, was it Papua New Guinea? who were from toddler stage spared much of the parental policing now considered appropriate. Allowed to play with the machete and roam free around the open camp fire they emerged with far less anxiety and perhaps a more practical and functional risk assessment process than modern kids.
Playgrounds today are foam buffered and accident proofed as much as possible, football and hockey helmets and padding are designed to absorb the shock of contact. Automobiles are seat belted, air bagged, AI driver assisted with back up cameras. Airlines and aircraft manufacturers rely on ever advancing auto pilot systems, a trade off that dispenses with higher salaried experienced pilots for lower paid, less flight tested, dial tenders.
"the too-common belief that it is possible to run an operation, any operation, by numbers, appears to be a root cause." -YS
I believe quantum physics has largely, by numbers alone, drifted off into string theory and multiple universes, all fascinating but of a highly extenuated and dubious relation to anything real.
We have lost touch with consequences through the intermediary remediation of technology and virtual modeling, great tools but they have unintended consequences on human behavior.Hayek's Heelbiter , April 6, 2020 at 7:57 am
What's struck me most about the UK government's approach to the practical day-to-day aspects of Brexit is that it is exemplifying a typically British form of managerialism which bedevilles both public sector and private sector organisations.
The genetic map of England (outside the major cities) is essentially unchanged since the Anglo-Saxon invasion.
https://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8252797/uk-genetic-map-reveals-invasions-regional-identity
As a decades-long American ex-pat living in London, it's taken me a long-time to realize, that despite its modern trappings, England remains a feudal society. The way ordinary individuals feel a lack of agency and still look up to the aristocracy and Oxbridge graduates for guidance rather than trusting their own skeptical instincts and standing up for those such beliefs is astonishing.
The fact that "forelock tugging" (an act of deference to a passing lord) remains a phrase in common usage says it all.
Ps. "bedevils"
Larry , April 6, 2020 at 8:02 am
I've felt that the only thing that enforced competence was the elites credible fear of communism after world War II. They had to do some things for the public lest their wealth be seized by the public. And propaganda was used right up to the fall of the USSR. I was fairly shocked that we then looked to China for all our outsourcing needs. The myth was that capitalism would make China an open democracy. Whoops! We enabled them to become a great power without any credible plan to make them any kind of ally beyond some mutual threat of dual self destruction if a trade war erupts. China is credibly working to become independent of the US with heavy state planning while we bail out and reward failed financiers and abandon all public planning to rent extractors. What I wonder is if people will start to look to another way that will credibly threaten the standard elite disaster capitalism approach that has been the norm for decades now.
notabanktoadie , April 6, 2020 at 8:04 am
A sound banker, alas! is not one who foresees danger and avoids it, but one who, when he is ruined, is ruined in a conventional and orthodox way along with his fellows, so that no one can really blame him. Keynes via Yves
The problem is that the payment system, besides grubby coins and paper Central Bank notes (e.g. Federal Reserve Notes), must work through private depository institutions or not at all.
How then can we have a sound economy when it is held hostage by "sound" bankers?
And are not the banks a form of rentier – who rent the Nation its money supply?
Then where are the proposals of the MMT School to euthanize those rentiers?
oaf , April 6, 2020 at 9:55 am
Please reconsider! Euthanasia is supposed to be kind!; not appropriate in such a case!
Bugs Bunny , April 6, 2020 at 8:23 am
Right out of college, I got a job at a commodities trading firm on a recommendation from my "Political Economics" prof. This was just when the PC started getting incorporated into technical analysis. I learned one of the programs pretty quickly and made a few fortuitous currency trades for some weird clients. One of my thoughts was, "what if you could just make this program run and trade automatically?" I think a lot of people had the same thought. Where has this laziness taken us? (I left after 6 months go to law school but that's another story).
I see this thought trap how to be more lazy as sort of an alienation that happens when you don't have to think about what you're doing anymore but how to get around it, and that gets passed on to others who see that you don't really have to "work" but that it's more about being clever enough to come up with a solution that pushes the whole process of being responsible, reflective and hard working on to something – or more likely someone – else.
I sometimes think we live in a world like Jerry Lewis in the Disorderly Orderly where he's the only sane one in the asylum, constantly tripped up by insanity from doing the job of an orderly.
eyebear , April 6, 2020 at 8:36 am
As of incompetence the Brits bought some corona-tests which were just crap. Seven-And-A-Half million tests just for the bin.
That's were the incompetence has it's home nowadays: 10 Downing St. If everything goes according to plan, the Brits will be redeemed from the incompetence reigning there in these days.
orlbucfan , April 6, 2020 at 8:53 am
Which is worse, out-of-control greed or rampant stupidity? What's wrecked America is a combination of the two. Thanks for the read.
Stephen The Tech Critic , April 6, 2020 at 8:56 am
On "The Rise and Rise of the Symbol Economy":
I think you hit some critical points about "spreadsheet models" and their disconnection with reality. Unfortunately, it's not just the business and finance world that's struggling here. I've seen serious failures along these lines in science and engineering as well. Unfortunately even experts in those fields (who should know better), routinely interpret model results very uncritically.
Like with business and finance, I believe the availability of computers for calculation and plotting has made scientists and engineers a lot more prone to misinterpreting their results or the results of others. I believe visualization of data via plotting software may actually facilitate uncritical interpretation of that data. ("Seeing is believing". ) Before computers, technicians had to construct plots by hand, which often involved close study of the raw data to determine the best design for conveying that data.
Then there's also the problem of romantization of computation. Particularly recently, a great many people (technical or otherwise) erroneously assume that a more complicated model or a model that relies on a broader range of data input will produce more accurate results. In reality, models involve *abstraction* of real things into data, which often requires making assumptions and/or discarding information. Proper interpretation of the model results requires taking the process of abstraction into account, but this is rarely done properly and is often impractical when complicated models or heterogeneous data sets are involved.
Yet another problem is that scientist and engineer livelihoods often depend more on abstract deliverables like "peer reviewed" papers (academia), reports, presentations, demonstrations, etc. The target audience is typically either a non-specialist manager or a specialist who doesn't have enough time to give proper critical attention to the work anyway. Hence, there is great incentive to produce "results" for their own sake and typically fewer negative consequences to the person (in terms of career / money) for "getting it wrong" than for "failing to deliver".
For me these things are fundamental to the reason that I'm not in a satisfying technical career. I could have made a whole career out of doing sciency bullshit. I had a very successful and well-connected Ph.D. advisor and could have been one of a lucky few to score a "tenure-track" position without doing post-doc work. Unfortunately every time I raised concerns about the integrity of the methods, he would blow me off with "we can talk philosophy another time". All he wanted to talk about was how to present the "results" for maximum "impact". Success in that and many other "scientific" fields depends on marketing over integrity, and someone such as myself who values integrity will struggle to match productive output (in terms of prestige and career development) with those who just want to "win".
I should clarify that I don't believe all scientific fields (or sub-fields, really) are incompetent as I describe above. I know many aren't. And it's a bit of a mystery to me why some are very tight and others are full of nonsense. I don't have a good answer.
PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:22 am
When the dust settles I do think the scientific establishment will have a lot of hard questions to answer. The response from official science bodies and advisors has often been terrible (not just with the face mask debacle). Among other issues, I think a fake form of 'scientism' has taken hold whereby models based on dubious assumptions are treated as a form of reality.
Nicholas Nassim Taleb has a paper out on the topic of models. His maths is way beyond my poor skills, but the general point he is making is that there are fundamental problems with models that extrapolate from past events poorly – in particular the often inbuilt assumption that the worst case scenario is the worst previous event. There is an entertaining explainer from a maths teacher in this article .
Ignacio , April 6, 2020 at 1:11 pm
This is not an easy issue. If one is to review the scientific literature, there was no lack of risk warnings from specialized scientific sources on the possibilities of new SARS-like outbreaks. I also believe there were scientists that from the very beginning worried about this. Once we saw how the outburst in Hubei evolved and watched coming data, surely many could go and check that we were confronting a new guy with a very different epidemiological and clinical behaviour compared with SARS. I am not at the forefront in science but i recall commenting this a couple of months ago here, so I can guess some many others did exactly the same. I don't think we were short on scientists able to do a good job on risk assessment. Particularly scientists working in public institutions. What's the problem then? I believe part of it is that we collectively turn a deaf ear to them. I noticed from the very beginning a focus on the clinical aspects of the disease but almost full blindness regarding the analysis of the epidemics. I think it possible that authorities in Western countries took HC experts for advice to their tables but these experts had no idea on epidemiology so they could barely give counseling on the dynamics of the outbreak and couldn't predict the speed of the spread. If someone tried to notice this would have been received with disbelief as all here were in negationist mood. Still many are. Also, I believe tha many thought this was a Chinese thing and felt comfort on the fact that Chinese authorities seemed to control it. Control, hah!
makesi , April 6, 2020 at 10:46 am
There is a parallel in union organizing. Old school organizers do their workplace charts, listing every employee, their relationships to one another, and tracking their support for the union, by hand. Doing so helps makes the organizer retain this "map" in their head. Younger organizers (myself included) tend to substitute databases and spreadsheets for the old hand-drawn version. Not saying these are entirely ineffective–I can speak from experience that they are not. Rather that the pervasiveness of the technological change is across many boundaries. Woe to the revolutionaries who use a google sheet!
David , April 6, 2020 at 9:10 am
A lot of useful things have already been said, not least by Yves, and I won't repeat them. But if you think about it there are a whole series of different issues here, and it's important not to mix them up. For example: how the virus got started, why it spread so quickly, whether it should have been anticipated, whether it was prepared for, what was assumed about it, what was done, how quickly it was done, whether the consequences (especially economic) were foreseen etc. etc. If you're going to argue incompetence (which I think there has been) you also have to have some idea of what would have constituted a competent reaction. Simply comparing countries doesn't really help, because there are too many variables, especially political and administrative ones: the US and China would not and could not have reacted in the same way, for example. So Italy, for example, has always had a weak state (to the point where many Italians have seen the EU as their salvation) and this is probably a more important factor than many more technical ones.
If there's a common thread that links all of these elements, it's dissociation from reality, which is also the cause of the incompetence on display. Globalization, for example, responsible for the speed of the spread and much of the economic dislocation, could only have been forced on the world by people who did not know about, or were indifferent to, the likely consequences. Some of this dissociation comes just from wealth and power of course (how to travel the world and see nothing) but some of it comes from ideology. For globalists, and neoliberals generally, the idea that the market will adjust to meet any short-term requirements (like masks) is not a simplification in a textbook but a statement of belief. So, even if globalists were aware that masks, testing kits and ventilators were no longer made domestically, they would have replied that it didn't matter because the market would provide.
A corollary of the above is that, if the market will always provide, then there's no real reason to plan or provision anything, provided you can buy it fast enough when you have to. Thus, all organizations should concentrate on being as small and "flexible" as possible, doing only those things that are essential, and thus in turn the stifling obsession with process and organizational change to the exclusion of actually, you know, doing things, which is the characteristic of our MBA-ised culture.
And finally, popular and political culture is no longer about anything. Children's books and TV are purged of anything that might seem threatening, and even adults demand a life free from even the possibility that something might happen that upsets them. We no longer have the vocabulary and cultural references to handle collective grief and trauma. Our elites, for the first time in history, have no personal experience of genuine crisis or deprivation, and, since the 90s politics and PR have become effectively indistinguishable. Politics has degenerated into a classically Liberal struggle for power between groups, and political society is divided into smaller and smaller warring tribes, defined by skin color or genital arrangement, competing for the spoils.
There's a lot more that could be said but I won't presume any more on the patience of others. Essentially, though we have been living in Dreamland, and, for all that our elites may think they've been cleverly manipulating us, they have been faster asleep than anyone. Our elite and popular cultures, in other words, have long been full of shit. And that mess you see is what happens when it hits the fan.PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:12 am
Thats a hell of a meaty post, lots to chew on there and I'd agree with all of it. This virus really has identified the weak spot of so many institutional systems. Its a genuine game changer in so many ways. It will be fascinating (and not a little terrifying) to be able to observe this in real time.
Mike Gualario , April 6, 2020 at 10:49 am
Great post!
DJG , April 6, 2020 at 11:29 am
David:
Thanks for this:
And finally, popular and political culture is no longer about anything. Children's books and TV are purged of anything that might seem threatening, and even adults demand a life free from even the possibility that something might happen that upsets them. We no longer have the vocabulary and cultural references to handle collective grief and trauma. Our elites, for the first time in history, have no personal experience of genuine crisis or deprivation, and, since the 90s politics and PR have become effectively indistinguishable.
I belong to some playwrights groups (one is a kind of old-fashioned list-serv). Many of the writers are waiting for this to blow over, so that they can go back to submitting the same old, same old. Then they may get a production in which the playwright's background is made much of. The work of art matters much less than the world of P.R. that now surrounds the typical rising U.S. writer, playwright, or painter.
What so many of these people don't get is that the New Rococo is over. As you say, "Our elite and popular cultures, have long been full of shit." It has been fifty or more years of Rococo paintings of doilies and flourishes and word-salad on stage.
Ignacio , April 6, 2020 at 12:50 pm
I have these days been writing on a theory that is flying around like an evasive butterfly on the conditions that may have been at the root of this and other recent outbreaks. I am replying to your comment because this is the first question in your well organized set of questions. I think this post touches many points that merit an in depth view and I like yours as well as many other comments here that add more insights. It seems to me very few are dedicating a single neurone to these arguments or at least I can only find them at NC.
As for the origin of Covid-19 I have read a solid narrative that says the origin could be the vulnerabilities of industrial farming practices in China. The world's largest producer of pork meat suffered in 2019 a devastating African swine fever outbreak that decimated hogs and very much reduced the most important source for meat production in China. Whether this resulted in a significant increase in wild animal farming and traffic is not clear because China doesn't provide data on this. Anyway it could be the case that such hidden practices, that I think were encouraged by Chinese leadership, could have increased by a lot during 2019 becoming an important business by itself and a relevant source for food in Chinese markets. This could have increased by much the possibility of a zoonotic outbreak like this.
Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:03 pm
thanks david ("our elite and popular cultures have long been full of shit"). I'm thinking we are far too aggressive as a species to stop to examine our equally aggressive fantasies. What we do best when we are not daydreaming is fight, usually without thinking it through. (So what happened to that instinct when it comes to fighting a virus? We couldn't switch back from the daydream in time?) We are either in some bloody confrontation or we are indulging ourselves in escape. We are totally bipolar. Economically as well. I recommend mandatory therapy, starting with members of Congress. And it wouldn't hurt to use our instincts as capitalists right now to do a government sponsored program to produce testing equipment that is reliable and can be distributed to every household. (Why is Capitalism so AWOL? It doesn't look like the fault of capitalism, it looks more like the absence of capitalism.) Likewise for first treatment – if it's hydroxychloroquine every household should have a current supply. We really shouldn't rely on our schmoozer-in-chief to jet off to India at the very last moment and cut a deal for drugs – which promptly get confiscated by the Indian Government. I mean duh.
FYI – re your comment on PCs and Visicalc
I deal with a lot of computer modeling, but am also old enough to know how it used to be done with design charts etc. before computeres were available. The design charts were developed using human computers like shown in "Hidden Figures". So I spend time with the junior engineers and scientists teaching them about how the entire infrastructure that they use daily was designed before computers were even available.
The first thing I look at when somebody gives me calculations is how many significant digits they are reporting the answer to. If there are more than 1 or 2 after the decimal place, I go through the entire thing with a fine tooth comb, because that means they don't understand significant digits and the inherent limitations of modeling and are just regurgitating whatever the computer spits out at them. There are often significant errors.
If somebody gives me something to look at that has a detailed computer analysis reported to one or two decimal places and checked with a simple design chart to ensure order of magnitude correctness, it is much easier to check and is invariably more than likely to be usable.
lou strong , April 6, 2020 at 9:18 am
Italy has an historical weakness with the national state structures, and if we look at national stereotypes we are supposed to be naturally messy and disordered.This is reflected in our own expression "fare le cose all'italiana" ( to do things the italian way ) , which is used when somebody acts in a range of ways going from messy , to corrupt ,to shallow ,to disorganised, to tricky.
As for our political and practical management of the Covid crisis, I see now rolling on the usual controversies among the factions of decision-makers, such as the ping-pong of blame between the Lombardy governor and the central government. The issue below ,in my view, is that NHS was regionalized , hence making it difficult a real joint effort and a joint national policy, and any decision on the ground was the result of a political wrestling between them .If there is some link with the article issue is that I tend to think that all the fundamental policies that have been implemented and publicized in the last decades in Italy were based on the idea and ideology of the external constraint . If you go on saying that whatever you are actually doing as a ruling class is because of some external constraint, you are saying that in the end you are not really responsible of you do in front of your citizens.This has little to do with the economical structure, or if it has something to do I don't see it at first sight.
I stopped a long time ago to try to understand whether or not the death count criteria were worldwide standardised, so I apologize if I'm saying nonsense with the following : when in my country death toll was approx ten times less than now, I remember that Italian HPA came out with the official digits that , with 1266 deaths of people with Covid, 2 deaths were with Covid alone.Alex morfesis , April 6, 2020 at 9:22 am
A simple and probably useless idea is the effect the jet airplane and it's compression of time has had an effect on top dog thinking, creating an illusion of being able to simply avoid risk by running from it. We might also have hit a fulcrum point with financioneers running out of countries to easily exploit and razzle dazzle although traditional legacy media may have hit a ditch in the road the googoylemonstyr is simply still just a glorified electronic yellow pages and bookfaze is the excuse used to explain bad and failed systemization in media operations There are many outlets for information gathering and most people outside the oecd have been imf-ed in recent enough history to not be so easily mesmerized by promises of some mythical sparkle pony happy ending
Finally perhaps also the eloquent ignorance of your correct observation of the notion one can simply PR problems past the newshole and blurb past the facts. There are more lobbyists and PR flax then have ever existed in most parts of the world.
Lastly, and perhaps it is just new to moi, but it would appear, despite the facts most countries outside the big three have multi party parliamentary systems, most have adjusted to a simple two party system with the hand offs then followed with a loud and proud but "loyal approved" opposition
Same old stale bread
My two cents in this 3 penny opera
funemployed , April 6, 2020 at 9:34 am
"In the remote era of my youth, even in the prestigious firms, new hires were subjected to at least a couple of years of grunt work."
I think this is hugely important. I'm a big fan of Lave and Wenger's theory of legitimate peripheral participation: basically that becoming an expert at something requires apprenticing to a community of practice possessing large amounts expertise, and doing increasingly consequential tasks until one gains expertise.
I think one major – perhaps the major – casualty of the symbolic economy was that there isn't any simple way to quantify the years (and in some cases decades) of apprenticeship it takes to become highly competent at a highly complex, highly consequential set of responsibilities. Expertise is obviously highly valuable, but let some other suckers or universities do the training, or substitute a credential, amiright ;)
I'm curious to hear from those of a certain age who are experts at something or other. My guess is that you can all name a handful of people without whom you never would have attained your current level of expertise, and that you cannot name a comparable number of young people that you have similar opportunities to mentor.
Tom Stone , April 6, 2020 at 9:46 am
To get ahead as part of the PMC you need two attributes, ethical flexibility and a taste for eating shit.
Being a psychopath is also helpful.PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 9:47 am
In many ways I think this virus has been adept at exposing the weaknesses in nearly every countries system. In China, the policy of governing by way of top down directives, interpreted in varying ways by local governments ensured that the initial response was to suppress news of the outbreak rather than deal with it aggressively. In South Korea the problem was stubborn religious extremists. In japan, a sclerotic and over-rigid bureaucracy. In the US, all three.
DJG , April 6, 2020 at 11:34 am
Plutonium Kun: Agreed.
Siggy , April 6, 2020 at 9:52 am
There are six fundamental questions to which there are two fundamental answers; or there are 479,001,600 permutations that might describe a given circumstance. Taken one at a time, each permutation is partially correct, 1/479,001,600. Your thoughts here avoid the error of examining the errors made in dealing with the pandemic by examining one error at a time and focus on the factor set that drove the errors. There is no simple single factor to be altered. There is a factor set that consists of several risks ignored. There is no benefit, at this moment, in fault finding. Here and now, we need massive testing, we need at least one reliable treatment regime, and most importantly we need a vaccine. Once we have those things we can then examine who decided what and hopefully we can examine what we need to do to preserve protect and defend the grand American experiment in political economy. Our Constitution calls for a Federal Republic that employs democratic means to achieve a representative government of, by and for, the people. As my high school civic teacher taught, you have to read all the words and a multifaceted thing cannot be described by citing only one of the facets. Consider the recent event, Hillary won the vote and lost the election. Your thoughts here address much of what we should be contemplating as individuals and as a society. One might differ with you with respect to one or more of the components; but, taken all together, you point to a cancer that needs to be eradicated. Thank you.
Senator-Elect , April 6, 2020 at 10:08 am
Ultimately, it's a case of power corrupts. Thinking through all of the above, it was all enabled by people in power thinking they could get away with something, trying it and then knowing they can do whatever they want. The power they held let them put greed first, and the lack of real potential deprivation or threats led them to make money (as opposed to self-sufficiency or equality or sustainability) the new god. After all, since when has money not delivered? This is the first time in a long time that money can't buy safety. As Stoller has said on Twitter, the Fed can't print a vaccine.
The corrective is accountability, or as vlade said, feedback. Elites can't just sit in their offices, mansions and private jets all day and fail upward, or sideways at worst. We had a little crisis not 12 years ago, but there was no accountability. So here we are.Zamfir , April 6, 2020 at 10:11 am
A remark about SARS and South Korea:
Their preparedness did not come from SARS, but from MERS in 2015. That one ended up killing 30 people, not much these days but enough for a large scare. It included hundreds of school closures and the like – it looked much larger at the time. There was also a huge scandal, when it turned out that medical institutions had been hiding infections, and this added to the scare.
The current Korean epidemic response system was set up after that – it's just a few years old. It is not deeply rooted in their history or culture or something
PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:16 am
Yes, I'd agree with this – in fact, this is precisely what the Koreans authorities themselves are saying. There is a lot of nonsense being talked about 'confucian values' and so on – the reality is that South Korea was on much higher alert because of its recent history (similarly with Taiwan, Singapore and Vietnam). This isn't to dismiss the excellent quality of the response which reflects very well on their government institutions and people, but a lot of outsiders are reading far too much into it.
HighDesert , April 6, 2020 at 10:27 am
Perhaps another Minksy-like pro-cyclical flaw in our current system is underestimating the marginal cost of incompetence. We can socialize the cost of the occasional minor disaster made worse by incompetence. Ditto for socializing the occasional cost of a parasitical rentier class. As with all short term thinking, it works until it doesn't.
As you point out, things like offshoring further undermine our ability to assess costs (ex. to the local workers, environment). Out of sight, out of mind.
I want to say that a portion of the electorate bear some responsibility here. In addition to the moneyed influencers, enough of the electorate agreed to put these officials in office. In the calculus of what the voters thought they stood to lose or gain, they believed they came out ahead.
Carolinian , April 6, 2020 at 10:46 am
Great post. My dad used to say "nothing beats experience" and when I was a younger know it all–lover of books and libraries–I scoffed. But now I know he was absolutely right. "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy." The people making the decisions are divorced from the results and the real world that most citizens live in–from experience. And so we've gone from a country with a genius for the practical–"heroic materialism" Kenneth Clark called it–to one where the elites are going through the motions until it all falls in. It may be falling now.
Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:18 pm
I think this comment is absolutely spot on.
Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 10:55 am
I'd like to throw a perspective that could be seen as CT onto the barbie, grill away.
This is a use of Howard Becker's Machine Trick: Design the machine that will produce that result your analysis indicates occurs routinely in the situation you have studied.
This assumes that results are (at least in part) due to the machines functioning exactly as intended. National differences of responses are a result of different de-facto policies.
I. The Big Picture.
Rule #2: Go die!
There is a actuarial perspective that letting people die has a net benefit.Image: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10222313535613412&set=a.1528083088162&type=3&theater
The Greeks and Malthus were aware of overpopulation problems. 1972's Limits to Growth showed that famine was not the trigger for population crash, pollution was. They modelled a crash date of 2055. The climate crisis is quickening.
The elite case for lowering life expectancy has been established:
: Tobacco Giant's Analysis Says Premature Deaths Cut Costs in Pensions and Health Care : Critics Assail Philip Morris Report on Smoking
[nytimes.com/2001/07/18/news/tobacco-giants-analysis-says-premature-deaths-cut-costs-in-pensions-and.html]Note that COVID-19 targets the same demographic that the Philip Morris report does. Targeting high-energy_usage high-capital_liability individuals give good ROI both in climate and financial terms. This brings in
II. The Middle Shark
Actions speak louder than words. Those with access to elite information behaved differently within the US. Feb 28 the President used the word Hoax, four days later the Fed put the crisis on the same level as 9/11 and the Lehmann fall.
Rule #1: Because markets.
Suppressing the response, both in public perception and in ER's, gave time for the decisionmakers behind the politicians to array their responses. The selfless perspective is this is a geostrategic eruption that must be tended. The venal symptom is elites had time to dump their stocks.
III. The Immediate Threat
A nanoscopic enemy, less than half the size an N95 shield targets. Asymptomatic invisibility, the false negative/positive problems of tests (if you can get them), the horrors of the ventilated. A real threat.
I had previously said that, with the obfuscation and miscategorization systematically skewing downward the perceived incidence of an already blurred enemy, we would have to look at all-cause deaths to really understand the proximate and ultimate mortality. I did not see falling death rates coming. In a complex world there are paradoxical effects. So any evil geniuses are gonna get really frustrated when their plans go awry.
We can already see the opportunistic authoritarians hard at work. I'll close with a couple paragraphs of Boyd, but first a reminder. This comment is a perspective on why some countries had a less-lethal response to this virus than others. In a complex world, simple explanations are incomplete. Boyd:
Remember what I said, without a crisis, they don't have an operation. They've got to have that crisis. Remember what I said last night? Without anomalies, no mismatch. No mismatch, no
crisis. Without a crisis, no change.Remember I said that crisis is important to them because then they can insert, work the propaganda, tear apart, generate these many non-cooperative centers of gravity.
flora , April 6, 2020 at 11:14 am
What was it Buttegig was saying on the campaign trail? "Chaos is a ladder"? Whose ladder, to what goal?
NoPlaceToHide , April 6, 2020 at 11:04 am
Yves, you say leaders are showing their incompetence managing two jobs, their medical response to Coronavirus and their management of countries' economies. I suggest that perspective can be gained by stepping back further and looking at a bigger job than those two tasks. How well are humans managing the planet's response to the threat of potential human extinction caused by extreme planetary warming (too quickly returning to PET-M).
Where I'm headed: collectivism vs. individualism.
It appears to me that an adequate planetary response (If it isn't already too late. That's a separate discussion.) to the threat of potential human extinction would require a giant collectivist response. Almost all countries would need to be collectively acting together. E.g., efforts would fail if a major economy like China or the U.S. continued its polluting ways.However, it appears most of our leaders are not collectivists. They appear, instead, to be individualists who have fought their way to the top by competing against other highly competitive individualists. Is it in the nature of individualist leaders to seek and join collectivist activities? Are our leaders actively seeking to join an adequate (rather than symbolic) collectivist planetary effort to reverse climate change?
Instead, it appears our leaders aim to be among the "winners" who will win by being among the survivors in their bunkers in the Hamptons or New Zealand.
I'm wondering about how much the culture of collectivist action, collectivist values, in various countries' medical systems has played in managing their response to Coronavirus. How much has (predatory) individualism contributed to the incompetent management of economies?
We humans have it in our nature to seek narratives, stories, that "explain" what we are witnessing. Stories simplify explanations. Stories give comfort to our minds. We crave that comfort. The two heroes in your two stories are 1.) losing sight of risk and 2.) using symbols to separate leaders/actors from reality. IMHO those are excellent heroes.
Is it reasonable to expect successive generations of individualist humans/leaders to maintain a focus on risk after previous generations appear to have insulated them from previously known risks? I suggest that a collectivist culture would be much more vigilant about identifying risk and preparing for it. For example, the collectivist U.S. military has done considerable work recognizing and preparing for the risks of climate change.
Is it reasonable to expect individualist (predatory) leaders to competently manage the economy of a country when they're so busy preying on their respective parts of the economy? Individualists have found a giant tool, symbols substituted for reality, to exploit/prey on the economies they live in. Is it reasonable to expect those individualists to give up their competitive predatory tools to embrace collectivist ways to manage economies for the benefit of all people in their respective economies?
flora , April 6, 2020 at 11:12 am
Thanks for this great post, Yves. Managers, CEOS, and politicians losing any sense of risk or real dangers sounds right. Promoting people incompetent or unfit for task isn't a problem if there is no risk or danger. They've become the managerial/political equivalent of the anti-vaxers: they believe no danger can touch them because no danger ever has (so far).
BoulderMike , April 6, 2020 at 11:27 am
As a young person starting out in the work world, I was as said above, given the opportunity to do "grunt" work. Put another way, like the old world apprentice system, I was given the opportunity to understand the mechanics of work before moving on to such things as planning and strategizing.
Early in my education I had troubles with math. Someone told me to think of numbers as things, or put another way, every number stood for something in the "real world". Once I understood this, every math problem could be visualized as a real world thing/concept. After learning this I learned to love math, and to apply it well. Word problems referred to real things. Logic and problem solving, thru math, was real. Moving forward to the work world, and with the move from mainframe computers (which I worked with), to PC's, I became proficient in very complex spreadsheets, creating them, maintining them, and undertaking complex analysis with them. But, and someone above hit on this well, unlike today where the numbers are the thing, or end product, I always envisoned them and understood them, each and every one of them, as just being a representation of a real thing in the real world. This I think sets my work generation apart from how things are done today. The loss of connection between numbers and real things is I think what Yves is referring to as how people have become distanced from risk and by default, it almost becomes "not risk".
Lastly, when I was younger I always had a need to understand the real world aspects of anything I did. I had a job in analytics/logistics at an Oil & Gas company, one aspect was gasoline blending. It wasn't good enough to get reports from the field for me, I had to go out to the field and see, touch and discuss the actual work. I loved going to manufacturing plants (refineries), and to the oil rigs. I had to understand everything because how else can you do the "administrative/planning" side of things if you don't have an intimate relationship with the actual thing?
Anyway, great post. It isn't the USA, it isn't capitalism, it is a deeper change in society that knows no boundary or ideology.Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm
kinda like there should only be one number, lets call it 3, and the size of it tells us everything about the world we live in – so a big 3 is extremely important and requires mobilization in some way, whereas a little 3 can be dealt with on a smaller scale ;-)
HotFlash , April 6, 2020 at 2:00 pm
An old (both ways) friend took up CNC work at a local maker space a while back. After a year or so he is good enough at it to be able to take orders for custom parts, but is now getting to the 'real world' of numbers. He is, to his indignation, awe, and utter delight, grappling with calculating the rate of taper he needs for some part, "Cotan, sine, tan -- it's trigonometry !"
Dang Me , April 6, 2020 at 12:04 pm
There is simply no risk in the game for elites. Trump was slow to act because his risk was that the stock market would be hurt by his action. He was free to wait because the stock market would get a bailout in the end. The lives of the public were less important and still are. The opinion polls of the voting class are all that matter.
The elites have very successfully bought off the voting class by making them small and insignificant players in the game via the 401(k). They readily take the risk off of elites because they are taking it off of themselves. They identify with elites and see them as their protectors.
Ignacio , April 6, 2020 at 12:24 pm
I think that the dereliction of duty by state actors is a something to be examined in depth. Unfortunately, I am not today in the mood for doing the thinking effort this post merits. I would have wanted to think on one of the symptoms of failure (widespread denialism) and contrast it with the many good observations made in the post. The quarantine and some personal stress has lately been a shock for me. Unfortunately some of my worst worries have come true. I was writing something that could be interesting on the conditions that favoured this outbreak but now I am not sure I can finish it.
Please take care. I am pretty sure I will still need this site to check for some common sense, good, sensible and critical thinking plus relief from the too abundant disingenuous widespread disinformation. So I insist, you gals and guys take a lot of care for yourselves.
Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:32 pm
you too Ignacio; I agree with your "dereliction of duty" – what else could we possibly call it?
Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 1:38 pm
Thank you, Ignacio. Know that your writing has been a great help to my understanding.
Anarcissie , April 6, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Widespread denialism is not hard to figure. Contemporary ruling classes and attached elites have no regard for honesty and truth, so they lie to the people as default practice. The people for whom they have so much contempt are smart enough to figure out that they are being lied to. Given that the authorities cannot be trusted, one might as well believe anything one wants.
Rtah100 , April 6, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Take care yourself, Ignacio. Check back in with us tomorrow, please. ¡Vaya con dios!
nn , April 6, 2020 at 12:38 pm
Why the Czech Republic isn't bottom of the barrel, I certainly wouldn't hold us up as exemplary case either. There are problems with protective equipment as everywhere else, the testing regime is grossly lagging, contract tracing is nonexistent and just today the leading epidemiologist and sort of top state science guy for this whole thing floated the idea we should let 70 % population who are low-risk contract the virus without explaining how he thinks this could be done without everyone else catching it too.
LAS , April 6, 2020 at 12:52 pm
I would not depict you as exaggerating about the change in posture toward risks. This was a very good essay. The change in posture about risks was enabled because typically big political donars (smallish minority) get bailed out of their troubles while those with lessor political influence (the working poor and middle class) get crushed.
BTW, seduction is the one thing Pres. Trump is really good at. Every news conference of his I happen to catch (not my objective), it is marvelous, fascinating to watch how he operates to seduce. It is what he does, even more fundamental than lying.
The lack of investment in public health has been so long standing that it is not the least surprising to me that the USA has done poorly in pandemic preparation. I knew we had deeply compromised capacity to respond. I am rather surprised by all the valient fighting for lives now going on by many health care workers and a few politicians. To me, I feel there is a mustard seed of humanism and hope in this world because we've purposely crashed our economies to try and slow transmission, save lives and health care from imploding totally. It is not a uniform sentiment, but it exists. It surprises me and am glad for it. Still, the disadvantaged are going to fare worse, suffer worse on account of the risks that others neglected.
Musicismath , April 6, 2020 at 1:04 pm
we've had a Minsky-like process operating on a society-wide basis: as daily risks have declined, most people have blinded themselves to what risk amounts to and where it might surface in particularly nasty forms. And the more affluent and educated classes, who disproportionately constitute our decision-makers, have generally been the most removed.
I see something very similar happening in academia. We align our identities with our institutions and think in very a short-term, metric-based fashion, seeing "success" (for instance) in terms of student recruitment (tuition fees paid in). Moreover, we're encouraged above all to be global in outlook: we look forward to our perennially "busy" international conference seasons and we emphasise the global and the transnational over the merely local or national (denigrated as narrow, provincial, and ideologically suspect). We like to see ourselves as mobile subjects, bodies in constant motion, our minds Romantically untethered from the confines of any one nation state.
So our identities as academics are unavoidably embedded in a form of neoliberal hyperglobalisation. We rely on unrestricted flows of (wealthy) bodies across borders. Our institutions (or many of them) have become dependent on international students and their superior fee-paying ability compared with merely "domestic students." We might agree in principle with ideas of a GND, say, or take an ecocritical approach to a novel or a play, but we're certainly not going to cut back on the number of international conferences we attend. Indeed, many of us go further. We see this form of globalisation, and the benefits that accrue to us and our institutions from it, as a form of moral necessity : something it isn't possible even to argue against in good faith. Hence our loud assent to principles like open borders and always-on mass migration. We have to keep those lucrative international students flooding in, after all. (Not that we'd ever put it in terms as crassly material as that; after all, we don't work in university administration .)
Our commitment to the global as a form of moral mission has left us completely unprepared for what's currently unfolding. We are utterly unused to considering the material constraints of the economy our livelihoods depend on; that globalisation might come back to bite us; that the very aircraft that carry us across the world to conference destinations and field work sites would one day turn off the spigot of endlessly mobile bodies our careers and identities depend on. Hence the reason why a lot of my colleagues are so lost right now. They're so used to living on a purely symbolic (or moral-symbolic) level that the materiality of this virus and its consequences seems like a crude insult. Many stubbornly hold on to their old commitments, unwilling to admit that the world might have changed. In this respect, I think of this post over at Crooked Timber, where John Quiggin (an economist I have a great deal of respect for) simply cannot bring himself to confront the possibility that the open borders dream might be dead.
Where we go from here, I have no idea. But the fact that international and Erasmus students might be gone for the foreseeable future, and the major implications this will have for the financial viability or our universities, seems to be slowly sinking in. But the fact that the "export education" model was a disastrous wrong turn will take much longer to be accepted, I think, because of the widespread commitment I've been talking about here to the principle of the global as a form of moral necessity.
Chauncey Gardiner , April 6, 2020 at 1:30 pm
Intriguing question and hypothesis regarding the reasons behind the variability in coronavirus infection and mortality rates among nations.
Variable coronavirus outcomes by nation could suggest a combination of elite incompetence, poor individual judgment, a lack of appreciation of risk in all its Rumsfeldian forms, corruption, a desire by oligarchs for autocratic control and being insulated and divorced from actual operations; or underlying cultural and economic factors.
It could also suggest that other factors either singularly or in combination played a role, including intentionality based on misjudgment of the agnostic nature of the virus regardless of demographics, economics and social class; or simply denial of an emerging public health threat by political leadership that reflected their own psychological characteristics and cognitive biases that led to a two month delay in implementing containment and control policy measures.
While they played a role, don't know that blaming the variability among nations entirely on a narrow set of insular public and private sector leaders who relied on computer spreadsheets to assess ROI, NPV of alternatives, payback periods, cost vs. benefit analysis, JIT inventory management of PPE; and the guidance of financial markets is an all-encompassing answer. Why exactly did they rely on those spreadsheets?
My own view is that we can trace the root cause of policy failure back to the dominant values of leadership and the values of the society/culture which spawned them regarding the relative importance of money in determining policy choices regarding public health and safety.
Unfortunately I expect the social and economic effects of this pandemic and the policy choices that increased its severity are going to be with us for some time.
Apr 06, 2020 | www.marketwatch.com
The U.S. was not adequately prepared for the current coronavirus pandemic and needs to address the lack of planning to better prepare for future crises, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Jamie Dimon said Monday.
In his annual letter to shareholders, Dimon said he hoped America will "roll up its sleeves" and start to attack its problems, including a costly health-care system, unequal access to education, a litigation and regulatory system that burdens small business, failed immigration policies, and ineffective infrastructure, among shortcomings. The share of wages for the bottom 30% of Americans has been falling, he said, a problem that needs to be acknowledged if it is to be fixed
"There should have been a pandemic playbook," he wrote. Likewise, he added, every problem he noted "should have detailed and nonpartisan solutions."" 'While conditions may sometimes be unusual and difficult, we are functioning smoothly. In fact, over the last month in certain parts of our company, we've had the highest volume and transaction totals we have ever seen.'
Apr 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Prof K , Apr 5 2020 21:06 utc | 60
Failure of government reports are now a genre:
- U.S. 'wasted' months before preparing for virus pandemic - AP
- The U.S. was beset by denial and dysfunction as the coronavirus raged - Washington Post
- Inside the coronavirus testing failure: Alarm and dismay among the scientists who sought to help - Washington Post
- The media were just as much in denial as the White House was:
Who's Right: Donald Trump or the Media? - Amren
I've seen this posted everywhere; article after article in the mainstream media telling us to stop worrying about the coronavirus.- The epidemic revealed that there is a lot of incompetence on all levels:
The Death of American Competence - Stephan Walt - Foreign Policy
Washington's reputation for expertise has been one of the greatest sources of its power. The coronavirus pandemic may end it for good.The long delay in the U.S. reaction has led to a urgent need for personal protection equipment. The result is a new 'wild west' where stealing and cheating to get PPE is the new norm:
- German army loses 6 million face masks in Kenya - Nation.ke
- Trump Administration Uses Wartime Powers To Be First In Line On Medical Supplies - KHN
- Coronavirus: US 'wants 3M to end mask exports to Canada and Latin America' - BBC
- Trudeau threatens retaliation after Trump keeps shipment of masks intended for Canadian doctors - Independent
- Coronavirus: Turkey seizes hundreds of ventilators paid for by Spain in move 'bordering on criminality' - Independent
- US Leads Global Wave of Nations Stealing, Seizing and Diverting Coronavirus Equipment - Orinoco Tribune
- US accused of seizing face mask shipments bound for Europe, Canada - DW
- Million $ checks exchanged on a McDonald's parking lot to get masks:
Illinois adjusts on the fly to meet medical supply needs in a coronavirus 'Wild West' - Sun Times- The Feds impounded the masks Massachusets had ordered. Twice. So MA they had to use alternative ways to get them:
A Patriots plane full of 1 million N95 masks from China arrived Thursday. Here's how the plan came together - Boston GlobeThe neoliberal transformation of the state is also on display with regards to the distribution of medical supplies. The USG is distributing much needed supplies to private commercial entities, which then play off various states, municipalities and hospitals against each other in bidding wars. This is what "public-private partnerships" and "new public management" have led to: a thorough abdication of institutional responsibility and capacity-building by the state, which itself has been devoured internally by market principles.
- If you have symptoms do not wait. Isolate yourself immediately:
Yale study finds self-isolation would dramatically reduce ICU bed demand - Yale News- How to set up an ICU - LBR
Without an analysis of capitalism as the central issue in the American crisis we can't understand how things are playing out.
Stephen Walt gets many things right but he has no sense of the political economy of the American crisis.
Why? Because his realist theory is bereft of any sociology and political economy.
Prof K , Apr 5 2020 21:58 utc | 68
@jamesThe thing with the billionaires is that they have demanded and benefitted from the hollowing out of the state in the neoliberal period, and then they exploit moments of state crisis to reassert their "importance" (and our dependence on them).
It's a vicious circle, and it's quasi feudal.
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So he sounded the alarm, sending a letter to 19 senior military officials. The gist of that letter was a recommendation to disembark and isolate the Roosevelt's crew, treating those infected and subjecting the entire ship to a thorough cleaning to eliminate the virus. "We are not at war," Crozier wrote. "Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset -- our Sailors." While the ship's operational readiness would momentarily suffer, Crozier was intent on ensuring that none of the men and women under his command would "perish as a result of this pandemic unnecessarily."
Today, of course, many Americans are dying unnecessarily through the negligence of leaders at all levels. In the weeks to come, negligence will claim the lives of many more. Crozier stands out as one leader who was quick to assess the danger at hand and to recommend prompt and decisive action.
For this he was fired. Needless to say, his letter leaked. Navy officials were thereby embarrassed. While eventually taking the actions not unlike those that Crozier had recommended, they gave him the axe. According to acting Navy secretary Thomas B. Modly, himself a Naval Academy graduate, Crozier lost his job because the Coronavirus outbreak "overwhelmed his ability to act professionally."
That's one opinion. Mine differs. Faced with a perplexing leadership challenge, Crozier made a very tough call: This was one instance, he concluded, where Men should come before Mission, while he unhesitatingly placed his own career interests last. His superiors, up to and including Acting Secretary Modly, ought to have applauded his actions. That they did not calls into question their own good judgment.
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Of course, my own opinion matters not at all. On the other hand, my guess is that for Crozier the opinion of his sailors matters quite a lot. As he left his ship for the last time, in a moving display of support for their former skipper, they gathered spontaneously to give him a rousing sendoff. Crozier left with their cheers ringing in their ears. The men and women assigned to the USS Theodore Roosevelt know professionalism when they see it.
Another point of discussion here is The Mission. Me thinks the mission of TR was to show force, intimidate and cower the Chinese. A very worthwhile job in the time of pandemic. While the good captain said that the US is not at war, maybe the higher ups know better and the US is indeed at war with a handful of countries in that area... and in that case The Mission must take precedence, eh?!KevinS • 14 hours agoBUT if he had killed civilians, taken pictures with their dead bodies, had every member of his unit testify against him and been found guilty of war crimes, Trump would have his back!daveclay • 14 hours agoHe didn't even inform his immediate superior, who lived feet away. He communicated outside his chain-of-command classified information (yes, mission-readiness is classified.) He absolutely should have been fired, and also brought up on charges. I expect this guy got his foot in the door to command via his fealty to Obama, instead of his actual suitability for command.FL Transplant • an hour agoCrozier graduated from the Naval Academy in 1992. In his 28 years of military service he's been a rotary wing pilot (SH-60s), a fixed wing pilot (F-18s), been the exec (second in command) of a Nimitz-class carrier USS Ronald Reagan), and the the captain of a major ship (USS Blue Ridge) (Command of a CVN requires both aviation and ship command; his career path is typical of those groomed for command of a CVN). He's a graduate of the Naval War College.John S. • 40 minutes agoI'll go out on a limb here, but considering his background I'm comfortable thinking that CAPT Crozier understands the chain of command, OPSEC, formal vs informal means of communication, who to address a message or email to, what items should be and shouldn't be in an unclassified email, realized the Carrier Battle Group's commander was embarked along with him and he could walk down the hall to discuss concerns with him, and all the other items people are raising.
The question should be why did someone with his background and experience consider it necessary in a peacetime deployment to act as he did to protect his crew, taking actions he had to have known would result in his being relieved of command and sacrificing his career. If those above him considered the sickness and death of a number of his crew, along with reducing the ship and its embarked air wing to an ineffective token, to be an unavoidable but necessary price to pay for the boat to continue on its deployment without alteration they need to come forward and say so. I have yet to read any rationale from the navy's civilian leadership (or military, for that matter; the CNO's office has been silent) where they have done anything other than note how bad he made them look.
I believe that Colonel Bacevich is right on point with one small error. That is that Captain Crozier's action wasn't necessarily placing mission behind the men. The Navy will keep it secret, of course, but a carrier underway with a large fraction of its crew sick, to some degree, is just as non-mission capable as one sitting in port.
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Robert Farley at LGM has an interesting post on Crozier,Tom Sadlowski Portland Sooner • an hour agoI am circling around to the view that Crozier's actions were correct, honorable, and laudable, and that they also created a situation that made it impossible for the Navy, notwithstanding the current occupant of the White House, to keep him in his position.The difference between a competent administration and the one we have is that Crozier would not have felt compelled to go outside the chain of command, the SecNav would not be "acting," and the Acting SecNav would not have been so terrified of his own President that he would have acted precipitously against the captain.
But decisions with strategic consequences should lie firmly with the very senior leadership of the armed forces, and the civilians that the leadership serves.
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/04/crozier-considerations
Thank you for that link. I agree with that assessment, and I would extend that circumstance to other departments within our government, and into other sectors like business, education, and non-profits. There is a disheartening present trend on who is promoted (and what comprises their value set) within organizations in America at present.
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Trump Weighs Legal Action Against China Over PPE Hoarding As International 'Mask Wars' Heat Up by Tyler Durden Mon, 04/06/2020 - 12:55 The Trump administration is considering legal action against China after leading US manufacturers of medical safety gear say Beijing has prohibited them from exporting goods in what the New York Post says was a bid to "corner the world market" in personal protective equipment (PPE).
"In criminal law, compare this to the levels that we have for murder," said Trump re-election campaign senior legal adviser, Jenna Ellis, who says that legal options include filing a complaint with the European Court of Human Rights or working 'through the United Nations."
"People are dying. When you have intentional, cold-blooded, premeditated action like you have with China, this would be considered first-degree murder, " she added.
Executives from 3M and Honeywell told US officials that the Chinese government in January began blocking exports of N95 respirators, booties, gloves and other supplies produced by their factories in China , according to a senior White House official.
China paid the manufacturers their standard wholesale rates, but prohibited the vital items from being sold to anyone else , the official said.
Around the same time that China cracked down on PPE exports , official data posted online shows that it imported 2.46 billion pieces of "epidemic prevention and control materials" between Jan. 24 and Feb. 29, the White House official said. - New York Post
In total, nearly $1.2 billion in gear - which included over 2 billion masks and 25 million "protective clothing" items which came from EU countries, along with Australia, Brazil and Cambodia according to the White House official.
"Data from China's own customs agency points to an attempt to corner the world market in PPE like gloves, goggles, and masks through massive increased purchases -- even as China, the world's largest PPE manufacturer, was restricting exports," they added.
'Mask wars'
The shortage of vital protective equipment has pitted neighboring countries - and even US states - against each other, resulting in accusations of theft and modern piracy, according to the CBC . The United States, in particular, has been accused of stymying efforts by allies to procure said equipment - by allegedly attempting to scuttle European deals for purchases from China, as well as attempting to halt exports of US-made N95 masks to Canada and Latin America last week.
That said, a Berlin senator who accused the US of "piracy" by diverting a shipment of protective masks slated for delivery in the German capital has reversed his position - saying that no US firms were involved in the case of the still-missing masks.
Now the WashPost has corrected the story. cc: @jeffmason1 https://t.co/5dnkAMJnie
-- Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) April 4, 2020The CBC suggests that 'the apparent desperation of some of the wealthiest countries on earth' comes as a surprise which has 'justifiably raised eyebrows in less fortunate parts of the world' which are now preparing for coronavirus to hit, yet with a fraction of the resources.
Striking selfishness
"It's normal for countries to take care of their own citizens first," said University of Ottawa professor of international affairs and former Trudeau adviser, Roland Paris - who added that the selfishness and lack of coordination among leading countries "is striking."
"We're unfortunately seeing a mad scramble to grab whatever's available, to hell with the other guy," added Paris, who's apparently unfamiliar with game theory.
Even more stark, the mask wars have seen American and other buyers scuttling European and Brazilian deals, some even snatching shipments already promised to other jurisdictions by outbidding them -- even "on the tarmac" as planes prepared to take off. Some shipments reportedly just disappear. - CBC
Not just masks...
While global PPE supplies have run critically short, nearly half the supply of hydroxychloroquine - the Trump-touted treatment for COVID-19, comes from India - which has banned exports of all form of the 'game-changing' drug .
Consequently - while China is without a doubt the biggest antagonist to the US, India is beginning to grate on Trump's nerves despite his nominally cordial relationship with Modi. According to data compiled by Bloomberg Intelligence, 47% of the U.S. supply of the drug last year came from India makers. Only a handful of suppliers in the top 10 are non-Indian, such as Actavis, now a subsidiary of Israeli generics giant Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. Still, it's likely that some of their production facilities are nevertheless located in India.
India's export ban on the drug is aimed at ensuring it has enough supply for domestic use after the American president's endorsement sparked global stockpiling of the medication. Now, Trump's decision to tout the drug will cause major shortages in the US.
Imagine if the United States hadn't exported the manufacture of just about everything?
Apr 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
White House economic adviser got into a massive argument with the coronavirus task force's Anthony Fauci over the doctor's ongoing resistance to the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, despite reports of the drug's widespread efficacy.Via Axios :
- Numerous government officials were at the table, including Fauci, coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx, Jared Kushner, acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf, and Commissioner of Food and Drugs Stephen Hahn.
- Behind them sat staff, including Peter Navarro, tapped by Trump to compel private companies to meet the government's coronavirus needs under the Defense Production Act.
According to the report, towards the end of the meeting Hahn began a discussion of the commonly used malaria drug hydroxychloroquine - which was recently rated the ' most effective therapy ' for coronavirus according to a global survey of more than 6,000 doctors .
After Hahn gave an update on various trials and real-world use of the drug, Navarro got up and dropped a stack of folders on the table to pass around .
According to Axios 's source, " the first words out of his [Navarro's] mouth are that the studies that he's seen, I believe they're mostly overseas, show 'clear therapeutic efficacy,' " adding "Those are the exact words out of his mouth.
Fauci - who's not got his own Twitter hashtag, #FireFauci - began pushing back against Navarro, repeating his oft-repeated contention that 'there's only anecdotal evidence' that the drug works against COVID-19.
Navarro exploded - after Fauci's mention of anecdotal evidence "just set Peter off." The economic adviser shot back "That's the science, not anecdote," while pointing to the stack of folders on the desk, which included the results of studies from around the world showing its efficacy.
Here's what unfolded next, via Axios :
Navarro started raising his voice, and at one point accused Fauci of objecting to Trump's travel restrictions, saying, "You were the one who early on objected to the travel restrictions with China," saying that travel restrictions don't work. (Navarro was one of the earliest to push the China travel ban.)
- Fauci looked confused, according to a source in the room. After Trump imposed the travel restrictions, Fauci has publicly praised the president's restriction on travel from China.
- Pence was trying to moderate the heated discussion. "It was pretty clear that everyone was just trying to get Peter to sit down and stop being so confrontational," said one of the sources.
- Eventually, Kushner turned to Navarro and said, "Peter, take yes for an answer," because most everyone agreed, by that time, it was important to surge the supply of the drug to hot zones.
- The principals agreed that the administration's public stance should be that the decision to use the drug is between doctors and patients.
- Trump ended up announcing at his press conference that he had 29 million doses of hydroxychloroquine in the Strategic National Stockpile.
According to a source familiar with the coronavirus task force, "There has never been a confrontation in the task force meetings like the one yesterday," adding "People speak up and there's robust debate, but there's never been a confrontation. Yesterday was the first confrontation."
Meanwhile, 37% of 6,227 doctors across 30 countries felt the drug was the "most effective therapy" out of 15 options in treating coronavirus, according to a poll reported by the Washington Times .
The drug has been prescribed in 72% of cases in Spain, 49% in Italy, 41% in Brazil, 39% in Mexico, 28% in France, and 23% in the USA . Overall, 19% of physicians have prescribed the drug for high-risk patients, and 8% for low-risk patients.
More from the Sermo poll (via the Washington Times )
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Sermo CEO Peter Kirk called the polling results a "treasure trove of global insights for policy makers."
"Physicians should have more of a voice in how we deal with this pandemic and be able to quickly share information with one another and the world," he said. "With censorship of the media and the medical community in some countries, along with biased and poorly designed studies, solutions to the pandemic are being delayed."
The survey also found that 63% of U.S. physicians believe restrictions should be lifted in six weeks or more, and that the epidemic's peak is at least 3-4 weeks away.
The survey also found that 83% of global physicians anticipate a second global outbreak, including 90% of U.S. doctors but only 50% of physicians in China.
On average, U.S. coronavirus testing takes 4-5 days, while 10% of cases take longer than seven days. In China, 73% of doctors reported getting rest results back in 24 hours.
In cases of ventilator shortages, all countries but China said the top criteria should be patients with the best chance of recovery (47%), followed by patients with the highest risk of death (21%), and then first responders (15%) .
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A User , Apr 2 2020 23:51 utc | 143
Out in the land of 'distinguished epidemiologists' the types who are charged with doing the hands on work of developing counters to this virus, will know exactly which professor, non-profit boss, esteemed expert, talks sense outta a brain that absorbs information & devises answers, and which ones are little more than industry shills who got lucky once early in their career, who are the notorious plagiarists, who are better at politicking than doctoring etc.
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bevin , Apr 2 2020 16:32 utc | 8
Philip Giraldi knows who to blame:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/02/another-expensive-war-another-intelligence-failure/"...the intelligence agencies were warning about information derived from medical sources in China that suggested viruses were developing that might become a pandemic, but the politicians, most particularly those in the White House, chose to take no action. He writes that " the Trump administration has cumulatively failed, both in taking seriously the specific, repeated intelligence community warnings about a coronavirus outbreak and in vigorously pursuing the nationwide response initiatives commensurate with the predicted threat. The federal government alone has the resources and authorities to lead the relevant public and private stakeholders to confront the foreseeable harms posed by the virus. Unfortunately, Trump officials made a series of judgments (minimizing the hazards of COVID-19) and decisions (refusing to act with the urgency required) that have needlessly made Americans far less safe."
"The article cites evidence that the intelligence community was collecting disturbing information on possibly developing pathogens in China and was, as early as January, preparing analytical reports that detailed just what was happening while also providing insights into how devastating the global proliferation of a highly contagious and potential lethal virus might be. One might say that the intel guys called it right, but were ignored by the White House, which, per Zenko, acted with "unprecedented indifference, even willful negligence...."c1ue , Apr 2 2020 18:32 utc | 36
@bevin #8
In January? Really? Seems like the highly paid and budgeted intelligence agencies should be able to do a better job of predicting the nCOV threat before China instituted a shutdown on January 23 due to its view that nCOV was a problem.Frankly, seems more like intel agency ass covering than anything else.
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JC , Apr 2 2020 20:17 utc | 65
The KN95 mask is a Chinese alternative to the scarce N95 mask, but the FDA refuses to allow it into the country.https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/coronavirus-kn95-masks-us-wont-import-china
Anyone know why KN95 banned?
A.L. , Apr 2 2020 20:49 utc | 78
A.L. , Apr 2 2020 20:30 utc | 73Additional comments regarding Chinese KN95 and why it's banned in 'murica
Getting type approval means paying for certification so a lot of domestic chinese brands won't bother going for EN or NIOSH as those markets are stitched up by big names like 3M.
Some lesser brands or importers OEM them from China but will pay for certification for US NIOSH for example, they would have their branding on it and probably contractual limitation on market exclusivity, even though they're probably pumped off the same production line.
and because they're made by suppliers serving the domestic market in China, they're about 30% - 40% cheaper than N95
so it begs the question, in times like these why wouldn't you allow a temporary standards equivalency recognition?
The only motivation I can see beyond red tape is the KN95 masks generally will have Chinese printing on them (brand, model, certification etc) and how would the US narrative go when everyone is wearing Chinese masks on the streets?
@JC 65William Gruff , Apr 2 2020 21:07 utc | 82becoz 'MURICA
they're pretty much the same.
You can still order KN95 masks from AliExpress .
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The C.D.C. has recommended that all Americans wear cloth masks if they go out in public. This is a shift in federal guidance reflecting new concerns that the coronavirus is being spread by infected people who have no symptoms .
Until now, the C.D.C., like the W.H.O., has advised that ordinary people don't need to wear masks unless they are sick and coughing.
Part of the reason was to preserve medical-grade masks for health care workers who desperately need them at a time when they are in continuously short supply.
Masks don't replace hand washing and social distancing.
Apr 04, 2020 | wallstreetonparade.com
Unmasking the Truth on Masks to Protect Against Coronavirus: Fire the Surgeon General
By Pam Martens and Russ Martens: April 3, 2020 ~
On March 23 we wrote this: " For want of a mask the largest economy in the world has been gutted, with Goldman Sachs now projecting that U.S. GDP could contract by as much as 24 percent in the second quarter." Now, in the past two weeks, 10 million Americans have filed claims for unemployment. Let that sink in, 10 million of our fellow citizens have lost their jobs in just a two-week period.
In the same article linked above, we showed a photo dated March 4 from the Associated Press of people packed together on a subway in New York City with almost no one wearing a mask. And then we explained why:
"On February 29, the Surgeon General Tweeted that the public should stop buying masks – despite scientific agreement that the virus is spread by sneezing, coughing and talking. The Surgeon General's advice may have made sense for people living on a 10 acre farm in New Hampshire but it was dangerous advice for people who can't afford taxis and are forced to ride a packed subway to work each day in Manhattan."
Because there were simply not enough masks to go around, the Surgeon General effectively lied to the American people.
Now, New York City is the global epicenter of the coronavirus with more deaths than anywhere else in the country. As of this morning, the New York Times is reporting a total of 51,810 cases and 1,562 deaths in New York City – which is 25 percent of the deaths in the entire United States, despite New York City representing just 2.6 percent of the U.S. population.
This past Monday, March 30, MSNBC news host, Chris Hayes, told his viewers this:
"At the beginning of this crisis, the World Health Organization and the CDC came out and basically said that if you're healthy, you just don't need to wear a mask around public to protect yourself or others from Coronavirus.
"Now, over the weekend, there was a rumbling the CDC was about to change its guidance to suggest Americans should wear protective masks, and while the CDC is now denying that reporting, and saying it is not updating its guidance, it is very hard to ignore the fact that the countries where masks are most prevalent, particularly in East Asia, are the ones doing the best job of battling the virus . [Italics added.]
"A prominent Chinese doctor was recently asked by Science magazine what mistakes are other countries making, quote, 'the big mistake in the U.S. and Europe in my opinion is that people aren't wearing masks.' "
Yesterday, April 2, the Washington Post published an OpEd by Joseph G. Allen, director of the Healthy Buildings Program at Harvard University's T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The title of the OpEd was this: " You Need to Wear a Mask. Here's How ." Allen wrote this:
"The debate is over. You should be wearing a mask when you go out
"First, masks of any type help prevent the user from infecting others by acting as a physical barrier that will block large droplets from coughs and sneezes. These droplets can travel up to 20 feet with a powerful sneeze, so six feet of social distancing is not always enough. And wearing masks is not just a good thing for those who are actively sick: Any one of us might be harboring this virus asymptomatically and could transmit it to others, cascading into a thousand new infections."
Allen also correctly pointed out that "Wearing a mask does not replace other important public health control measures such as hand-washing, social distancing, covering your cough and cleaning surfaces."
Allen critically noted that while N95 masks must be reserved for front-line health care workers, people can and should be making their own masks. Unfortunately, Allen suggested using a 100 percent cotton t-shirt, which this tutorial on the proper way to make a mask recommends against . A T-shirt is knit, thus making it subject to stretching. The tutorial recommends using a double layer of high-thread-count 100 percent cotton from sheets or pillow cases made out of Percale or a list of other fabrics.
According to the CDC, the 1918 flu pandemic, known as the "Spanish Flu," resulted in the death of 50 million people globally and an estimated 675,000 people in the United States. The photograph above likely explains one of the numerous reasons that the Spanish Flu was not contained in the U.S. Red Cross volunteers were using highly porous gauze to make masks.
Yesterday, New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio said this: "We're advising New Yorkers to wear a face covering when you go outside and will be near other people. Let's be clear, this is a face covering. It could be a scarf, it could be a bandana, something you create yourself."
NBC News is reporting this morning that "The White House is expected to urge Americans who live in areas of high coronavirus transmission to wear cloth face coverings to prevent the spread of the virus, a senior administration official told NBC News on Thursday night." Clearly, the whole country should be wearing properly-made, home-made masks so that their town doesn't become the next heavily impacted area.
It didn't need to take this long and the loss of this many lives and the U.S. economy to figure out the obvious. The Surgeon General's negligent Tweet on February 29 should have told Americans to stop buying N95 masks needed desperately by health care professionals and advised them on how to properly make their own masks. The Surgeon General should be held accountable and lose his own job along with the other 10 million Americans who didn't give out dangerously bad advice.
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vk , Apr 3 2020 22:53 utc | 90
With the mask fiasco comes the relief fund fiasco:The USA is struggling to alocate its resources.
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dltravers , Mar 29 2020 20:02 utc | 45
The U.S. Tried to Build a New Fleet of Ventilators. The Mission Failed.Apparently a low cost ventilator was constructed years ago by direction of the Federal government. The company was bought out by another company that produced higher costs ventilators and the project died.
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Trailer Trash , Mar 29 2020 20:25 utc | 51
Looks to me like Dr Francis Collins, director of the US National Institute of HealthHe is no longer AWOL? You have seen or read a recent interview? For at least a month or two, it has been Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, and not a hint of his boss Collins. Perhaps Collins has been too busy handing out guitar picks.
NIH Record
At the outset of his... presentation..., NIH director Dr. Francis Collins described new guitar pick-shaped lapel pins ... popping up around NIH and even on Capitol Hill that tout "Hope at NIH." These arose not only out of Collins' reputation as a musician, but also as "insignia that we believe in what we are doing," said Collins. "You want to pick NIH and you want to pick hope," he said, inviting the group to wear the symbols with pride.
Who needs research or effective planning when we've got "Hope at NIH"?In 2017 he was been busy promoting Mind/Music/Magic pseudo-science. Maybe he got lost backstage.
"Music and the Mind," on the intersection of music and science. There will be performances, presentations, and discussions by Dr. Collins, Ms. Fleming, the National Symphony Orchestra, neuroscientists, music therapists, and others. Some events are free, open to the public, and will be streamed online
Too bad he is too busy to run his $35 billion agency. Good thing he has Fauci to do it for him.
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Agent76 , says: Show Comment March 27, 2020 at 8:31 pm GMT
Mar 27, 2020 Dr. Fauci and COVID-19 Priorities: Therapeutics Now or Vaccines Later?There is a raging debate in our government. How should America respond to the Coronavirus crisis? With therapeutic drugs? Or with a vaccine?
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Turk 152 , says: Show Comment March 27, 2020 at 3:04 pm GMT
The shortage could also be a matter of the medical bureaucracy at play. A primary driver in physicians actions is whether or not they will be sued. If they prescribe malaria medication for covid-19, a use that has not gone through clinical trials and FDA approval, could they be sued if someone dies? They may expect it to work, which is why they are hoarding for themselves and their family. But, if someone dies while being treated by ventilator, they have no exposure because it is currently within medical guidelines.In contrast, Chinese doctors can and are solving the problem through trial and error. One doctor tries a medication on a patient and if the patient recovers he can communicate to other doctors to try the medication. They dont have a system in which an attorney looking for cash shows up if an already dying patient dies anyway.
This is a big problem for the US that is going to lead to many unnecessary deaths.
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vk , Mar 27 2020 14:24 utc | 199
USG is squabbling with the private sector to purchase ventilators more cheaply:After Considering $1 Billion Price Tag for Ventilators, White House Has Second Thoughts
Mar 27, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
Not Just China: U.S. Reliance on Foreign Medical Supplies is Staggering
The government's own numbers tell a frightening tale of how this happened, and when.
Virus pandemic having exposed scary domestic shortages of critical medical goods ranging from safety masks to ventilators, along with potential shortages of pharmaceuticals, political leaders across the spectrum are finally regretting having allowed so much output of these products to migrate offshore.China's role in global supply chains has understandably sparked much of the alarm, since its government has all but threatened to withhold supplies of medicines whenever it wishes. But all told, at least 38 countries (including the 27-member European Union) have curbed exports of anti-pandemic products at some point since the CCP Virus began dominating headlines.
So potential foreign chokeholds in the nation's health care-related supply chains appear global in scope. The federal government's best data make clear just how widespread the problem has become, and how steadily it's been growing.
The figures come from the government's statistics on industry-by-industry manufacturing output and on exports and imports. (The output data can be accessed through databases created by the Census Bureau for its Annual Survey of Manufactures that are located at this link . The trade numbers can be retrieved at an interactive database maintained by the U.S. International Trade Commission that's located at this link .)
Put together, they reveal how big a share of the American markets for drugs, medical devices, and protective gear is controlled by goods made overseas. The big takeaway is that the nation could be in big enough trouble if supply disruptions were to occur in normal times (say, due to natural disasters in manufacturing centers abroad). During a high-mortality pandemic like the CCP Virus, these levels of foreign dependency are high enough to guarantee significant numbers of needless deaths.
These statistics aren't problem-free. Principally, because the manufacturing output figures are so granular, and therefore take so long to compile, import penetration rates for these (and other manufactures) can be calculated only through 2016. Yet the more timely import numbers can provide a reasonable indication of whether vulnerabilities are worsening or shrinking. At the same time, the government's main trade data aren't nearly as detailed as the production numbers. As a result, it's not possible to know the percentage of, say, safety masks used in the United States that are produced abroad. But it's easy to come up with this number for the category in which masks (and other protective gear) are grouped -- surgical appliances and supplies.
And in fact, the import penetration trends for these products exemplify the nation's health care security weaknesses. In 2002 -- a good baseline, since that's the first year China was a member of the World Trade Organization -- imports overall accounted for 16.7 percent of all surgical appliances and supplies used in the United States (measured by value, not numbers of masks or pairs of gloves). During the first full year of the Great Recession, 2008, this share totaled 28.08 percent.
Notably, these imports from China were a tiny 1.5 percent in 2002, and had actually dropped to 0.49 percent by 2008. By 2016, they accounted for a seemingly modest 6.54 percent of American consumption. But here's where another weakness in the data emerges: they say nothing about the origin of the materials, parts, and components of the final goods.
Keeping this qualification in mind, overall, 32.41 percent of surgical appliances and supplies were imported from other countries by 2011, according to these figures. In 2016, that number reached 41.81 percent of a $33.71 billion U.S. market. It may well be higher these days, as between then and last year, U.S. overseas purchases jumped by more than 29 percent. (Interestingly, in light of domestic shortages, U.S. exports in appliances and supplies actually rose by more than 13 percent during this period!)
Ventilators, sadly, have been in the news, too; they and related products like oxygen tents and bronchoscopes and inhalators and suction equipment are found in a big goods category called surgical and medical instruments. In 2002, imports from all corners of the world represented 22.04 percent of American consumption. By 2016, this figure stood at 35.91 percent of a $37.5 billion national market, and over the next three years, imports grew nearly 31 percent. (Exports expanded at a relatively slow 11.84 percent.)
Again, the China figures are small beans -- the import penetration rate for 2016 was a mere 2.35 percent. But these products often contain lots of electronics parts, and half the world's printed circuit boards, for example, are made in the People's Republic. In other words, lots of existing global surge capacity throughout the sector is ultimately controlled by Beijing.
Thanks to the work of researchers like the Hastings Center's Rosemary Gibson and independent journalist Katherine Eban, heavy and sometimes exclusive U.S. reliance on China for the chemical ingredients of numerous medicines has now become a major federal government concern. Indeed, the Food and Drug Administration is keeping an especially close eye on the availability of no fewer than 20 pharmaceutical products that use Chinese raw materials. (Unfortunately, the FDA won't say what they are, which calls for some Freedom of Information Act requests, pronto.)
But the import penetration figures make clear that supply disruptions could also originate elsewhere. Between 2002 and 2016, drugs produced overseas more than doubled their share of America's consumption (which stood at nearly $200 billion three years ago), from 17.23 percent to 38.51 percent. As of 2019, moreover, U.S. drugs imports were 20.34 percent higher than in 2016.
The main foreign suppliers to the American pharmaceuticals market as of last year look encouragingly diversified and encouragingly friendly. For example, Ireland was number one, with 22.15 percent of such shipments, followed by Switzerland with 14.05 percent. But third and fourth, with 8.87 percent and 8.39 percent of imports, were Germany and India, respectively, both of which have limited or embargoed their medical exports this year. And number five, at 7.38 percent, was Italy -- whose current CCP Virus devastation could easily bring about export restrictions.
Nor is this pattern restricted to pharmaceuticals. Last year, America's leading foreign supplier of surgical and medical instruments (the ventilators category) was Mexico, which sold U.S. customers 28.58 percent of the $17.62 billion of total imports. But export-curber Germany was number three, at 9.43 percent, and China was sixth, at 6.93 percent.
For surgical appliances and supplies (the masks and protective gear category), Ireland topped the 2019 foreign supplier list, selling the United States 24.09 percent of its $18.21 billion of total imports. But China was second, at 15.29 percent, and in third place, at 9.68 percent, stood Malaysia, which banned mask exports on March 20.
Purely domestic policy steps, like mandating more stockpiling or new recycling and re-use strategies, undoubtedly can add to national medical products supplies. But even these general import penetration figures, along with the shortage reports that keep pouring in, make clear that enduring national health care security can't be restored without a major ramping up of domestic output. And since export-heavy economies like China's and Germany's will undoubtedly work overtime to keep their American health care customers -- including with all manner of predatory economic practices -- it's similarly clear that big, lasting U.S. departures from standard free trade policies will be unavoidable.
Alan Tonelson is the founder of RealityChek, a public policy blog focusing on economics and national security, and the author of The Race to the Bottom .
Mar 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
kiwiklown , Mar 24 2020 3:51 utc | 160
Posted by: occupatio | Mar 23 2020 18:33 utc | 12
"No, China didn't cover up the Covid-19 outbreak: An analysis"Thanks. I've saved the article for when it is memory-holed.
Crisis reveals character... the nature of people.
When shown to be incompetent, US leadership lies.
Russia says the US leadership is not "agreement-capable".
Less politely, I say they are dishonourable, shameless, ghouls who have lost their souls.
What does it profit a leader when the world's TV cameras shine on you, but you have lost your soul?
SharonM , Mar 24 2020 1:41 utc | 129
@97 Richard Steven Hackted01 , Mar 24 2020 3:41 utc | 159"The number of idiots everywhere on the Internet proclaiming the following:
1) The virus won't prove to be any more dangerous than ordinary flu..."Yeah sure, we should have just shut up and believed...
Russia interfered in the election
Russia invaded Crimea
Russia invaded Georgia
Iran is making nuclear bombs
The Skripals were poisoned by Russian agents
Assad is using chemical weapons
Saddam has weapons of mass destruction"etc, etc., ad nauseum.
I could go on and on. The number of people who just *have to have an opinion* is staggering. And they'll argue that they're right until the cows come home."@99 Michael Weddington
"The virus deniers here remind me of the global warming deniers."
Why not holocaust deniers? In fact, since you didn't say holocaust deniers you must be an antisemite holocaust denier nazi, right? It's not like you two are at CNN's website, you're in the alternative media, where we actually questions things instead of just having blind faith.
SharonM @129kiwiklown , Mar 24 2020 4:21 utc | 164Nailed it Sharon.
Suddenly the corporate mainstream media have become the epitome of truth, honesty and integrity.
jackrabbit @33 -- "Coronavirus Drives the U.S. and China Deeper Into Global Power Struggle"I would rephrase that to "US uses coronavirus to deepen global power struggle against China"
NYT -- "These officials warn that a fast-growing China, under Mr. Xi's increasingly authoritarian rule, seeks military, economic and technological domination over the United States and its allies."
What weasel-speak! Repeating a big enough lie often enough, and you get distracted citizens to fall in line behind you for when you launch a sneak attack on China. This is nothing but a case of projection by parties who are themselves seeking to dominate the world, the better to eat other people's lunches.
Mar 24, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
| The truth is always less glamorous than the perception. And the truth about 9/11 is that it was first and foremost a failure of bureaucracy.As early as spring 2000, the CIA had learned that two of the future hijackers had traveled to Malaysia for an al-Qaeda summit. Both men had U.S. visas yet the information was never acted on. In California, the pair roomed with an undercover FBI agent. In Oklahoma, one of them was pulled over for speeding . Mere days before the attacks, they were hunkered down in Laurel, Maryland, not far from the National Security Agency's headquarters.
They were never stopped, nor were several of the other soon-to-be hijackers who were cited for traffic violations and raised eyebrows at flight schools, more Rocky and Mugsy than SPECTRE. After 9/11, a congressional investigation found that the attacks could have been prevented were it not for FBI and CIA ineptitude. According to that and subsequent reports, the agencies had failed to share information with each other, gotten bogged down in turf wars, and lacked outside-the-box thinking.
They did this because this is how bureaucracies work. The state isn't some enchanted repository of our national priorities; it's a sprawling network of individuals, who, like the rest of us, tend to place their own interests before the common good, show reluctance in the face of innovation, cling to rote procedure even under extraordinary circumstances, abuse their power. And just as the predictable failures of the security bureaucracy allowed 9/11 to happen, so too are the predictable failures of the medical bureaucracy enabling the coronavirus to spread.
Start with the feds' delayed reaction to the virus's outbreak in Washington State. There, the first case of COVID-19 in America was confirmed all the way back in January, and an infectious disease expert in Seattle, Dr. Helen Chu, had an idea. According to the New York Times , her lab had been using nasal swabs to research the flu; were they to repurpose the tests, they could check for the coronavirus. The team quickly sought the approval of the CDC, which kicked them over to the FDA. The FDA then denied their request, citing both privacy concerns over the swab results and the fact that the labs were not certified for clinical purposes. After weeks of the agency refusing to budge, the team decided to do that most American of things: ignore the government. They tested for coronavirus and found a positive. The bureaucrats promptly told the team to stop; they later relented but only in part.
Those FDA rules may be in place for good reason -- patient privacy must be protected, labs must be classified correctly -- but such rationales should quickly fall to the floor when an epidemic is raging. Because they didn't, Chu's team was forced to waste valuable time. And even those laboratories approved for clinical work were having a tough go of it. They still had to apply with the feds for emergency approval to develop their own tests, and were being stymied. "This virus is faster than the FDA," grumbled one researcher to the Times . So are turtles with polio. It's worth pointing out that all this transpired well after the government had declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
The root of the problem seems to be that the bureaucracy underestimated just how widely the coronavirus would spread. Initial tests were limited to those who had just returned from China. Warnings from local officials that the virus was proliferating were ignored. The CDC, meanwhile, developed its own test, but the kits were quickly determined to be faulty and retracted. Precious weeks slipped by. Had measures been implemented, had people started social distancing earlier and the infected been identified and quarantined faster, the coronavirus could have been better contained. Instead the FDA tried to control the process, only to find that it couldn't. Private labs were brought in too late and struggled to meet demand, forcing them to ration tests. It wasn't until last week that the FDA started permitting companies to market tests without federal blessing, though they still must get the agency's approval within two weeks.
The process remains hamstrung by that most bureaucratic of problems: lack of coordination. Only whereas prior to 9/11 it was agencies failing to coordinate with each other, now it's the government failing to coordinate the supply chain. The labs, the medical providers, the supply manufacturers -- all need to be in harmony in order to develop tests and distribute badly needed equipment. Instead hospitals warn of ventilator shortages . Masks are running dangerously low, with Vice President Mike Pence announcing only last weekend that the government had at last placed an order for hundreds of millions more. A run on supplies following the FDA's belated easing of restrictions on private labs caused shortages, according to the Wall Street Journal . Tom Rogan at the Washington Examiner reports that pallets of medical equipment are sitting unused in warehouses because the FDA hasn't loosened its inspection protocols .
Contrast all this with South Korea, which streamlined its medical bureaucracy following the MERS outbreak in 2015. There, officials sounded the alarm in January and one week later a private lab had developed a test. Today, about 10,000 South Koreans are tested daily , many of them at drive-through diagnosis centers, compared to just a small fraction of that number in the United States.
Yes, the fish rots from the head down. Donald Trump's complacent reaction to the virus set a terrible example. His pronouncement that the outbreak was "like a miracle, it will disappear" now sounds insane. Yet the president can also only reach so far down into the bureaucracy; some of those gears need to align on their own. And they clearly failed to do so. This also can't be blamed on a lack of funding, given that Trump's supposed cuts to the medical bureaucracy never actually happened . Amid a massive federal budget and trillion-dollar deficits, we're paying more than enough to expect the government to do better than this.
I know we've convinced ourselves that the country would run better if only the damned libertarians would get out of the way, but it may be that the real problems are less trite than that. And one of them is clearly that the government has mummified itself in its own red tape. This happened despite the bright minds running its departments, human genome pioneer Francis Collins at the NIH and the oncologist Stephen Hahn at the FDA. So now the bureaucracy is taking a more deregulatory approach, lifting roadblocks to private labs, easing restrictions on trucking, lifting barriers to telehealth. They're about two months too late. Those early weeks were critical and the feds spent them methodically tripping over their own banana peels.
After 9/11, the nation consoled itself by establishing a new government agency with a fancy name, the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone who's ever talked to a DHS employee knows the confusion and bureaucratic jostling that reigned there for years. Instead of doing the same, once the coronavirus has passed, Congress should take a cue from another post-September 11 authority: the 9/11 Commission. Establish a body to investigate the government's blunders. Mimic South Korea and clear away the clutter. Because this time the costs of bureaucracy aren't just abstract notions of productivity and GDP; they're human lives. about the author Matt Purple is the managing editor of The American Conservative . email leave a comment
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By CNN's count, at least 13 states and 13 municipalities in the US have ordered 144,522,931 people to stay home as a result of the pandemic, according to data compiled by CNN using US Census population estimates.
Update (1324ET): President Trump on Tuesday once again tried to deny that his administration dropped the ball on the coronavirus response, while saying he would like to see the country re-open by Easter.Of course, the CDC's botched handling of the tests has been well-documented, and the fact that nobody in the administration acting to overule the CDC and start stockpiling tests from elsewhere might be remembered as one of the administration's biggest screwups in handling the crisis.
Trump: "We did not screw up."
This is specifically about coronavirus testing. In fact, CDC very much screwed up -- its test had a contaminated assay, the negative control, which made it unusable.
World Health Organization offered us test it had been using in China.
We refused.
-- Alexander Nazaryan (@alexnazaryan) March 24, 2020
Mar 23, 2020 | asia-review.com
On the morning of March 11, US author Kurt Eichenwald tweeted
As I said, @ GOPLeader – and other GOPrs – were told in a political consultants memo to start using name "Chinese Virus" as part of some stupid political strategy.
Everyone: Go to McCarthy's twitter feed and ask "How can we trust GOP when you dont even know the disease's name?
-- Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) March 11, 2020And just as expected, over the next few days government officials and politicians, including the respected President of the United States, started using the term "Chinese Virus".
This usage is against the new naming convention released by the WHO in 2015.
Dr Keiji Fukuda, Assistant Director-General for Health Security at WHO said in 2015 regarding the new naming convention, "We've seen certain disease names provoke a backlash against members of particular religious or ethnic communities, create unjustified barriers to travel, commerce and trade, and trigger needless slaughtering of food animals. This can have serious consequences for peoples' lives and livelihoods."
Unfortunately, the political strategy has succeeded. Instead of talking about how absolutely incompetent the US response has been, the talking point has been shifted to Americans fighting over whether its right to call it Chinese Virus, with one side saying it stigmatises innocent Asians and instigates hate crime, and the other claiming its a liberal PC agenda.
This, coupled with the spread of fake news regarding how China "covered it up for weeks", (which I wrote about here ) has successfully diverted anger away from the US government and shifted the blame to China.
For good measure, a short recap of the US's incompetence:
Censorship and misinformation (which Americans claim China is doing)
Trump calling it a hoax https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/29/joe-biden-trump-coronavirus-hoax-claim
News station host calling it a hoax https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240640020714848257
The Trump administration barred a top US disease expert from speaking freely to the public
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2Lawmaker Condemns 'Unacceptable' CDC Decision to Stop Disclosing Number of Coronavirus Tests
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cdc-decision-to-stop-disclosing-coronavirus-test-total-condemned-by-lawmakerOfficial: White House didn't want to tell seniors not to fly
https://apnews.com/921ad7f1f08d7634bf681ba785faf269Trump tried to stall intelligence report by DNI, cut funding for pandemic preparedness, CDC
https://time.com/5799765/intelligence-report-pandemic-dangers/Seattle lab uncovered Washington's coronavirus outbreak only after defying federal regulators
https://theweek.com/speedreads/901405/seattle-lab-uncovered-washingtons-coronavirus-outbreak-only-after-defying-federal-regulatorsCoronavirus: Sheriff Chitwood reveals 20 potential Volusia cases
https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20200314/coronavirus-sheriff-chitwood-reveals-20-potential-volusia-casesCDC wanted to recommend all over 60 to remain inside their homes, but was instructed not to by government officials https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/1238870221672386563
Downplaying the virus all the way from the start until March 16 https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1240043597434687489?s=20
Incompetence in testing
Manufacturing defects leading to days of delays https://www.wsj.com/articles/manufacturing-defect-in-some-early-cdc-test-kits-being-probed-11583119414
Testing 400 people in 40 days while the world has tests hundreds of thousands https://fortune.com/2020/03/03/coronavirus-us-test/
A Pennsylvania state laboratory is now able to handle about six tests per day
https://www.wtae.com/article/pennsylvania-begins-coronavirus-testing-at-state-owned-lab/31212554As of March 3rd, New York City has only tested 17 people for coronavirus
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/coronavirus.pageCDC Tested Just 77 People For Coronavirus This Week (article dated 13 Mar) https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-cdc-tested-77-people-this-week_n_5e6b06c1c5b6dda30fc6424d?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
Sick People Across the U.S. Say They Are Being Denied the Coronavirus Test https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/us/coronavirus-testing-challenges.html
The entire state of Indiana has 100 tests https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/coronavirus-testing-picks-up-pace-in-south-bend-region-and/article_52bdcb0e-63e9-11ea-a23f-736dca0c8273.html
Sheer incompetence
Oklahoma governor urges residents to join him at crowded food hall https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/despite-coronavirus-spread-governor-visits-packed-food-hall-urges-oklahomans-to-join-him/
Florida governor refuses to shut down beaches amid spread of coronavirus https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-governor-refuses-shut-down-beaches-amid-spread-coronavirus-n1162226
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Jackrabbit , Mar 22 2020 6:40 utc | 102
@101I raised the same issues a couple of days ago:
The real danger was always in the possibility that the healthcare system is overwhelmed. Then you get large numbers of unnecessary deaths.So a country needs to flatten the curve. The best way to do that is to close the schools as soon as community spread is detected. In the West, this should've been done in early February - it wasn't.
By mid-February, it was clear that certain drugs and anti-virals were effective. It was important to have widespread tests so that these drugs could be administered early, especially to vulnerable populations. Yet weeks later, the West (especially USA) was still unprepared to test.
There didn't need to be a crisis or a panic. But a CRISIS! is something that is politically useful: to direct hate against China; to provide extraordinary support to favored interests like Banks and Wall Street and Boeing.
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In addition, it seems that USA/Trump was hoping that remdesivir, developed by Gilead Sciences, would be the (expensive) drug of choice to treat Covid-19.
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Mar 22, 2020 | moneymaven.io
Please play this.
Anthony Scaramucci ✔ @Scaramucci23.6K people are talking about thisI hope this is played everyday everywhere until Nov 8. Unless @ realDonaldTrump resigns as he should immediately.
Mish
20 hours ago Here is a 1 minute 22 second video timeline of Trump's amazing handling of the coronavirus.
Please play this.
It will take less than two minutes of your time.
One missing key quote is a statement Trump made bragging about having natural talent coupled with a proclamation that he could have been a scientist instead of president.
More Questions:
- And where are the tests? The ventilators?
- Who at the CDC or in the administration insisted the US needs to develop its own test instead of using an accurate test the rest of the world was already using?
- What about Trump increasing sanction pressure on Iran in the midst of the biggest global humanitarian crisis since world war II?
- And what about Trump's rating his administration's handling of this as "excellent".
Mike "Mish" Shedlock
njbr 20 hrs
The dumb-asses in DC still don't get it. "Top" leaders crowding around a single microphone in a stage no larger than a public restroom. Working toward a 1 time $1200 check that probably wont be issued/delivered for another couple weeks. What about the weeks after that--are they going to spend the next couple weeks going around about the next check?? Has the production of ventilators actually been accelerated-who could tell from what has been said? Why are nurses and doctors in my area asking the public for donations of PPE at the very beginning of the serious phase? What happens when the doctors and nurses start tipping over? Two partially ready hospital ships may help in one spot each on the coast, but what about everywhere else? Has anyone even checked on the production capacity for the maybe helpful malaria medicine--has anyone been directed to begin proactive super-production of this product? On and on.
DeeDee3 20 hrs
hard to prove deliberate neglect when you eliminate all of the evidence. No testing means "no virus" and sadly supported the hoax theory.
Another doc died in the city today. ER's are unprotected. what conclusion can we draw from all of this?
Zardoz 20 hrs
Thousands will die because of his incompetence... and his followers will blame the Chinese
egilkinc 20 hrs
There should be a tracker of the number of cases [among medical personnle] in the US along with this
Sechel 20 hrs
Oh my g-d. This is excellent! I think Trump has learned some bad lessons from Goebbels. Repeat the lie and repeat it often and people will take your version of events. This really serves to correct the record! Good work!
PecuniaNonOlet 20 hrs
And yet there will be an avalanche of Trump supporters defending the idiot. It is truly beyond me.
michiganmoon 20 hrs
Actually, Trump should resign and give the GOP a chance this November.
Had Trump not downplayed this and had tests ready, he could have played on a loop Biden on January 31st saying travel restrictions from Wuhan were racist and xenophobic.
thesaint0013 20 hrs
Ok. Let me start by stating that I am not a "staunch" Trump supporter. However, I just really despise the constant visceral negative, hatred towards our Country's President.
As I am sure you are aware, it is a tremendously difficult job, especially in today's crisis. I would think it would be better serve of your time and efforts to be constructive and optimistic, and hopeful. Rather than pinpointed every single steps and missteps he makes. He is certainly no perfect - but his goal is the same as all of ours: to defeat this virus in the best manner possible with the resources available.
To criticize previous tweets, interviews, and depict his flaws and errors does not help the common goal. The nature of some of the questions posed to him during the press conferences should be a bit more respectful and again, it doesn't serve any positive outcome to try and "catch" him in a lie, and how he may have said something that was not factual or false.
Again, he's not perfect and neither are anyone of us. However he is our President and we should support his and all of our common goal to defeat this virus.
Russell J 20 hrs
Not making excuses for Trump at all but he/we have people who are specialists and are responsible for being ready at all times for something like this and are responsible for being on the look out for this. Somebody should have came forward, even as a whistleblower. I've been aware for about 2 months now.
Thank you WWW.PEAKPROSPERITY.COM, MISH and WWW.ZEROHEDGE.COM
This was an epic failure of Trump, his administration and America in general.
ghoffa 20 hrs
Hi,
@MishTalk @Mish
I wanted to sincerely thank you MISH from my whole extended family. I have been reading you since 2007 when Ron Paul removed the scales from my eyes on the Fed and govt., Jekyll Island book, the "financial markets" (all modern day money changers). Every picture I see of Fed chairpersons, their eyes look dead black sharks eyes (to quote a famous book which I subscribe, the eyes are the windows to the soul).In addition our mob style duolopoly govt and for the most part complicit MSM (all with significant influencing billionaire ownership to control the news - easily searched). I've learned so much from this blog and the many commentors in this space ( a personal fav is @Stuki ) . Nothing short of brilliant and reminds me of my fav news source Zerohedge and it's articles and commentors.
A special thanks for pointing us to Chris Martenson (peakprosperity.com) as my wife and I have watched every day his free daily videos since JAN @24th and our extended family is as prepared as we can be. God help us all with what's coming.
For those who haven't watched it, Dr. Martenson has a great 3 min video on exponential growth on YTube. Search his name and exponential. It will help you prepare for what our govt knows is coming in enourmous exponential growth in fatalities. Even knowing, it will be an emotional thing to prepare for. Prepping home supplies is one thing, prepping emotionally is also important per Dr. Martenson. HCWs be damned.
As this impacts people personally, I expect insider leaks to come from many fronts. We're working with neighbors to get prepared as we're all on our own now as the money changers (evil) bail out the money changers (evil) amidst a system that is so debt leveraged it can't likely be bailed out. "everything's a nail and the Fed has a hammer".
Lastly this brings a famous quote to mind as the people rise up against corrupt govt, corp bailouts after stock buy backs, etc. Let alone the monsters upon monsters creating lab viruses (regardless of the source of this virus), and unregulated GMOs changing the fabric of life.....
"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing". Margaret Mead
GQE2Infinity 20 hrs
Come on! First off, anyone can be made to look bad by taking snippets out of context and stringing them together. That said, Trump does tend towards braggadocio. If that is off putting to you, he can be annoying. I much prefer a transparent fool to the more sly variety that plays the part well while sticking a knife in your back.
But let's be honest here. The president can do very little. The bureaucracy of the government is a jobs program for the less ambitious and politically inclined. It's staffed with incompetent bureaucrats that show up, surf the web and may get around to an hour or two of honest work. Public unions guarantee they can't be fired.
Obama converted the CDC into a PC jobs program for lefties, just like he converted NASA into a Muslim outreach program.
May one ask: why is a self proclaimed libertarian screaming for more government action? Wouldn't it be great if one of the outcomes of this crisis is that local communities became more self reliant and more self sufficient!
Sechel 20 hrs
that's from a website called therecount.com looks interesting.
Greggg 20 hrs
For the entire Trump Presidency it was all about the stock market. So, here we are.
numike 20 hrs
while we all point fingers lets look at a useful guide regarding the mess we are ALL in now https://www.seriouseats.com/2020/03/food-safety-and-coronavirus-a-comprehensive-guide.html
Food Safety and Coronavirus: A Comprehensive Guide Questions about COVID-19 and food safety, answered. www.seriouseats.com
Tengen 20 hrs
The graphic at the end of the video already looks out of date and shows how rapid the spread has been. For March 2020 it shows 5,002 cases in the US (and counting) but right now I'm seeing 24,137 cases.
So much for "in a couple of days the 15 is going to be down close to zero".
njbr 20 hrs
What can the President do?
Force and organize the production of necessary goods.
- Act as impartial hub for the distribution of new and stocked items.
- Force/fund the emergency super-production of even possibly helpful items such as the malarial drug.
- Turn every possible research dollar onto the research into the disease, it's treatments and vaccines.
- Fund and distribute tests. Make a way to track the progress of the disease, as opposed to waiting for regional medical systems collapse under load.
- Activate whatever resources are possible to pre-position and set-up field hospitals now.
- Develop uniform best-practices for quarantine and treatment.
- Prepare the population for the realistic probability of multiple months of the crisis.
Mish Editor 19 hrs
May one ask: why is a self proclaimed libertarian screaming for more government action? Wouldn't it be great if one of the outcomes of this crisis is that local communities became more self reliant and more self sufficient!
- I said what I would do
- I would remove tariffs. I would not have had them in the first place.
- I would expect our president to act to increase supplies not insist on Made in America.
- I would expect our president to behave like an emphatic human being, not a total moron
Mish Editor 19 hrs
Trump did not Drain the Swamp. He IS the swamp
Mish Editor 19 hrs
Anyone who still supports this President's actions is a TDS-inflicted fool.
Jim Bob 19 hrs
I've followed Mish for ~ 12 years online and on the radio for brilliant economic analysis. Lately his work has been undermined by irrational political opinion. Mish has turned into Krugman. I won't be back.
abend237-04 19 hrs
The Donald is obviously afflicted with the same narcissistic megalomania prerequisite for a successful run at any elective office above County Coroner, anywhere in this country.
That said, he can apparently read a graph, and he's right: The two drug combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin are working to treat this damn thing, BUT:
It is, indeed, not a Covid-19 preventative.
If you get it, and you dink around at home too long waiting for improvement, arriving at ICU needing ventilation leaves you with roughly the odds of Russian roulette of surviving, especially if you're older.
Lacking testing, the only remaining means available to knock the transmission rate down quickly is social distancing/lockdown. But, enough of that prevention can leave us wishing we were dead anyway.
Unfortunately, all the college kids jamming the bars and beaches is setting the stage for continued exponential growth by hordes of asymptomatic spreaders.
The march of folly continues.
I like what I'm seeing of Cuomo. He'd be a good guy to have in the room in a serious fight; This qualifies.
DBG8489 19 hrs
As someone who hates all politicians, there is zero love lost between Trump and myself. I had hopes when he was elected that he would make a difference but it was clear based on how he looked after his private meeting with Obama on inauguration day that he was in over his head.
Having said that, I will say this:
From at least the "major" state level up, it would appear that not one single elected official or the top advisors and bureaucrats who work for them have shown anything but complete and utter failure in their handling of this emergency.
You have senators selling off piles of stock while either saying nothing or telling the rest of us that it was bullshit. And trust me - they were not the only ones. If anyone cares to investigate, they will likely find this problem rampant. Elected officials should not even be allowed to trade stocks when they control the entire economy - not even through alleged "blind trusts" - it's bullshit. But that's a conversation for another time.
You have congressional reps and senators blaming each other and/or the other party and passing laws and bailouts without even reading the bills they are passing.
You have the Treasury and the Fed printing money and throwing it at every hole that opens up without the slightest regard for what the unintended consequences of those actions may entail.
You have governments of the "major" states (CA, NY, NJ...etc) who know they can't simply print money being exposed using any extra money they had (along with taxes based on tourism that have now disappeared) to fund God knows what now demanding that everyone else pony up to pay for their failure to plan...
The lack of leadership in the major states and at the Federal level is abysmal ACROSS THE BOARD.
And that includes members of BOTH parties and nearly every single bureaucratic agency involved.
You can single Trump out if you want, but he's not alone. He's just an easy target because 49% of the population hated him before this started.
njbr 18 hrs
....Top health officials first learned of the virus's spread in China on January 3, US Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Friday. Throughout January and February, intelligence officials' warnings became more and more urgent, according to the Post -- and by early February, much of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA's intelligence reports were dedicated to warnings about Covid-19.
All the while, Trump downplayed the virus publicly, telling the public the coronavirus "is very well under control in our country," and suggesting warm weather would neutralize the threat the virus poses....
...The administration did begin taking some limited action about a month after Azar says the administration first began receiving warnings, blocking non-citizens who had been to China in the last two weeks from entering the country on February 3 -- a move public experts have argued at best bought the US time to ramp up its testing capabilities, which it did not use, and at worst had no beneficial effects at all.
Trump finally assembled a task force to address the virus, putting Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the effort on February 26, and declared a national emergency on March 13. And, just this week -- nearly three months after first receiving warnings from his intelligence officials -- the president's public tone about the crisis shifted: "I've always known this is a real -- this is a pandemic," he said Tuesday as he admitted, "[the virus is] not under control for any place in the world."....
Realist 18 hrs
I have been watching political leaders in my own country get on television daily. They have all done a great job of informing the public about the dangers of this virus. They have all relied on the experts to relay information to the public about what the government is doing, and what individuals should be doing. This is true at the national, regional, and local levels.
In addition businesses have been sending out emails, radio announcements and tv messages explaining what they are doing in regard to this pandemic.
In fact, I am amazed at what a good job everyone is doing.
I am also watching what is happening in the US. Every US state governor and city mayor I have seen on tv has done a wonderful job of presenting the facts to the public and provided instructions as to what they are doing and what the public should be doing.
Then there is the gong show that is Trump. I could not imagine that anyone could be as bad as he is; months of lies, denials, suppression of the truth, and a complete and utter lack of preparation for something he was warned about many times. Denying one day that the virus was a pandemic; only to claim the very next day that he had known it was a pandemic for months; and then the very next day say that no one could have seen this coming; and finally saying that his response to the virus rates a 10 out of 10.
Worst President ever. Sadly, many, many Americans are going to suffer and die because America had this moron in charge.
Mish keeps referring to worldometer to get stats from. Their numbers seem to match up with numbers I see in my own country and in the US.
Disturbingly, today, the mortality rate for closed cases ticked up 1% to 12%. 12978 deaths and 94674 recovered. That is not the direction I expected it to go.
daveyp 17 hrs
You get what you vote for. To have such a malignant narcissist of such profoundly limited intellectual honesty and capacity "leading" your nation through this is truly tragic for your country. Even the hideously vile ultimate Washington insider Hilary would have done a better job.
truthseeker 17 hrs
Mish I agree with much of the criticism of Trump, yet had he done everything you and others suggest, there is this implied assumption that everything would have worked out perfectly. You know I am impressed the way the country seems to be uniting to such a great degree, that I think there is at least some hope for our country's future though there are huge challenges that lay ahead absolutely!
abend237-04 17 hrs
I will now proceed, once again, to bitch about the root cause of our current pandemic, which is causing many to experience cosmic scale frustration with The Donald, which I share:
Civilization has now been hit squarely in the head with three killer coronavirus outbreaks in 18 years, yet still has no unified global new viral antigen detection system. We could have if our world "leaders" would make it happen.
Local supercomputers, however massive, will never crack this nut, but the billions of powerful, web-accessible smartphones could if linked and used by a parallelized, intelligent scheduler to raise the alarm when a new antibody/pathogen is discovered in human blood anywhere.
Such a system could have lifted the burden from a lonely doctor struggling to raise the alarm in Wuhan, before Covid-19 killed him, and placed it squarely in front of disease control experts, worldwide. It can be done; We must do it.
Sars cov-3/4/5/6/7/8/9/n could kill us all if we don't.
Mar 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Jackrabbit , Mar 21 2020 23:10 utc | 54
Caitlin Johnstone also sees the response being manipulated to focus hate on China: Liberal NPCs Hate Russia, Conservative NPCs Hate ChinaBut she sees this China-bashing as mostly a political reaction:
In reality these people are rallying behind the campaign to blame China for the health crisis they're now facing because they understand that otherwise the blame will land squarely on the shoulders of their president, who's running for re-election this year.instead of a deliberate Deep-State strategy (which is my view).We can argue who created the virus (I'm still looking for any rebuttal to the Chinese claim that USA must be the source because it has all five strains of the virus), but the Empire's gaming of the virus outbreak seems very clear to me.
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Mar 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Tom_LX , Mar 13 2020 20:10 utc | 104
Here come the excuses,Health
The 4 Key Reasons the U.S. Is So Behind on Coronavirus TestingBureaucracy, equipment shortages, an unwillingness to share, and failed leadership doomed the American response to COVID-19.
Mar 11, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
allan , March 11, 2020 at 7:50 am
U.S. coronavirus testing threatened by shortage of critical lab materials [Politico]
A looming shortage in lab materials is threatening to delay coronavirus test results and cause officials to undercount the number of Americans with the virus.
CDC Director Robert Redfield told POLITICO on Tuesday that he is not confident that U.S. labs have an adequate stock of the supplies used to extract genetic material from any virus in a patient's sample -- a critical step in coronavirus testing.
"The availability of those reagents is obviously being looked at," he said, referring to the chemicals used for preparing samples. "I'm confident of the actual test that we have, but as people begin to operationalize the test, they realize there's other things they need to do the test."
The growing scarcity of these "RNA extraction" kits is the latest trouble for U.S. labs, which have struggled to implement widespread coronavirus testing in the seven weeks since the country diagnosed its first case.
Nigeria with nukes.
Mar 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Tom_LX , Mar 9 2020 19:35 utc | 23
Posted by: charliechan | Mar 9 2020 19:30 utc | 20Charli Chan ask right question.
charlie cha wonders how US counts the sick when CDC test kits are unreliable.and unavailable in quantities necessary !!!!
Mar 10, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
New Wafer Army , March 9, 2020 at 5:29 am
The glue appears at the start of the article:
"the US is particularly poorly set up to cope, thanks to our fragmented public health system and overpriced, privatized and less than comprehensive health care. That bad situation is made worse by the CDC being short on resources and hamstrung further by the Trump Administration's PR imperatives."
Basically, it is expected that Europe manages the crisis less badly.
Eustache de Saint Pierre , March 9, 2020 at 12:18 pm
It has been interesting watching Dr. John Campbell's growing realisation & some shock that everything is not well with the US healthcare system & he has received some abuse but also support from Americans for his growing criticism.
His listing as requested of his 2 degrees & Phd, never mind his long front line experience & his books I think shut some up for perhaps thinking that he was only a nurse, but perhaps he shouda gone to NakedCapitalism.
Mar 09, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
By Jerri-Lynn Scofield, who has worked as a securities lawyer and a derivatives trader. She is currently writing a book about textile artisans.
I was chatting on Facebook the other day about the topic de jour – protecting friends, family, and myself from coronavirus – with Dr. Sarah Borwein, an old friend and travel buddy from my Oxford days. Sarah's a Canadian- trained doctor who has practiced family medicine for more than 15 years in Hong Kong. She co-founded the Central Health Group.
I recently attended Sarah's wedding in that city in early January – and got out just in time to avoid some of the more draconian travel restrictions that have since been imposed as a result of the outbreak of the #COVID-19 coronavirus.. At least for now. And just before Hong Kong imposed drastic restrictions that have allowed it to weather the coronavirus crisis while recording only three deaths, so far.
She has an extensive professional history of dealing with infectious diseases in Asia. Prior to commencing her practice in Hong Kong, she successfully ran the Infection Control program for the only expatriate hospital in Beijing during the SARS period, also serving as liaison with the World Health Organization. For a fuller account of her career and her thoughts on the current crisis, see this interview in AD MediLink, Exclusive Interview on COVID-19 with SARS Veteran Dr. Sarah Borwein .
I thought readers might be interested in some of the things Hong Kong is doing to combat the virus.
Partial Lockdown
The city has been in partial lockdown from the middle of January, with schools and universities, shut, employees encouraged to work from home, sports facilities and museums closed down, and people told to avoid crowds according to the Financial Times, Hong Kong's coronavirus response leads to sharp drop in flu cases . Hong Kong residents have accepted these restrictions, since:
Hongkongers are particularly compliant with public health measures because the 2002-2003 Sars outbreak, which claimed almost 300 lives in the territory, is still fresh in many people's minds.
The partial lockdown is neither easy nor cost-free, but it largely seems to have controlled incidence of the disease, without paralysing Hong Kong. The city is close to mainland China and has extensive economic and other ties. But so far, it has recorded only three deaths, according to the South China Morning Post, Coronavirus: Hong Kong records third death as five more cases confirmed, bringing total to 114 . And this for a city with population of roughly 7.5 million people.
Testing
There has been extensive texting for the coronavirus in Hong Kong – which is free. This allows public health austhories to track the spread of the disease, and see that victims get treated properly and promptly.
This record stands in contrast to the US, which has not yet managed to distribute tests widely – let alone, as far as I can see, determine who will pay for testing.
The disease seems to have taken hold in In U.S., with cases exceeding 500 and deaths so far recorded of 22, with 19 in Washington state, according to the New York Times, Cases of Coronavirus Cross 500, and Deaths Rise to 22 .
New York declared a state of emergency on Saturday. Governor Andrew Cuomo has complained about the lack of testing kits (see Coronavirus in N.Y.: Cuomo Attacks C.D.C. Over Delays in Testing ).
The inability to test means that it's not possible to track the progress of the disease properly, is as to determine from where a patient may have caught it. Nationwide in the US, a fraction of people who are symptomatic or who may have been exposed to the virus have been tested. Even India, which has so far managed to limit exposure of its population to foreign sources of infection, has tested many more people – and is doing comprehensive screening at its airports.
Which makes a lot of sense, as foreigners – tourists – are principal source of the infection, Others are Indians returning from foreign climes, carrying with them the disease. So far, India has reported 39 cases, a large cluster of which is an Italian tour group that visited Rajasthan. Five other recent cases are non-resident Indians (NRIs), who returned to India from Venice. We can only help as the temperature slowly rises as we approach the Indian summer, that increase in temperature slows spread of the virus (see Coronavirus cases rise to 39 as 5 found infected in Kerala ). Whether this will prove to be the case is as yet unknown, but as Sarah discussed in her MediLink interview:
It is true that some viruses that are spread by respiratory droplets, as COVID-19 is believed to, spread more easily when the air is cold and dry. In warm, humid conditions, they fall to the ground more easily and that makes transmission harder.
But there is still a lot we don't know about exactly how COVID-19 is spread and the effects climate may have on it. We do see it spreading in Singapore, which is warm and humid, so who knows?
I should mention that there have been dark musing about the NRIs returning to the state of Kerala from Venice – as they concealed their travel history and exposure. Kerala Health Minister K.K. Shailaja has said these victims will be treated, but that this type of behavior -- the deception – should be considered to be a crime.
Hong Kong has made it a criminal offence to lie to a health care provider about one's travel or exposure history, according to Sarah; I wonder whether the US will attempt to do the same?
There have been numerous complaints about the lack screening at US airports, including JFK, for people coming from Italy, which has locked down 16 million people in Lombardy and the north (see ' Absolutely Chilling': Reports From Frontlines of Coronavirus Outbreak Reveal Roadblocks to Testing, Lack of Safety Protocols .)
How to Protect Yourself From Infection
Most of us have heard the advice for avoiding infection. I'm going to repeat this advice. Those who know it all already, feel free to skip ahead. Those who've not seen such advice, pay attention.
Wash your hands, with soap, properly and frequently. I posted this video last week, but some readers may not have seen it:
WHO handwashing technique. Notice the attention to between the fingers, back of fingers, and nails:
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/IisgnbMfKvI
Hand sanitiser can be used as a stopgap until you can wash your hands, but the World Health Organization says that only those that are 60% alcohol killl the virus. And hand washing is an absolute must for hands that are visibly dirty.
Maintain social distance. Avoid crowds.
Cough or sneeze into a tissue, and dispose of it promptly and properly (I'm tossing mine into my toilet, and flushing them away.).
Pay attention to your overall health. Eat well. Including plenty of fruits and vegetables. Stay properly hydrated.
Get a 'flu shot if you haven't already. Although this won't protect you from coronavirus, 'flu can be a nasty disease in its own right, and catching it can land you in hospital or quarantine. Not to mention getting sick with the 'flu overburdens health systems when resources are needed elsewhere.
The procedures Hong Kong has put in place to control coronavirus have also led to a drastic decline in 'flu cases,. In fact, its winter influenza season has ended more than a month earlier than usual. 'Flu cases also dropped during the ARS crisis, according to the FT:
Data provided by the government's Centre for Health Protection show the incidence of infection with influenza had fallen to less than 1 per cent by the end of February, marking an end to the winter flu season, which normally extends to the end of March or into April.
"A similar pattern happened in 2003 during Sars. All respiratory infection diseases were down between March to September compared to 2002," said David Hui, a respiratory disease expert from the Chinese University of Hong Kong.
"Influenza spread is one of the markers [of the coronavirus containment] as the same principles of avoiding droplets and social contacts apply."
Ho Pak-leung, a leading microbiologist at the University of Hong Kong, said data showed the flu season had shortened from an average of 98.7 days to 34 days this year.
Use of Masks?
Masks are not very useful, and many places are out of stock anyway, but Sarah says these can prevent you from passing along any infection you might have to others. She says the advice to avoid masks outright is wrong. There is a place for them, they're just not a panacea, and in any case, if used improperly, they may actually increase your risk.
From her Medilink interview:
The shortage of masks has many people feeling quite anxious and unprotected. But masks are NOT very effective at preventing transmission of viral infections, particularly when worn by healthy people. They are by no means the most important measure you can take to protect your health. In fact, if you wear a mask incorrectly, touch or adjust it frequently, re-use it, or fail to wash your hands before putting it on and after taking it off, you may actually increase your risk.
Who should wear a mask:
– People who are sick, to prevent them spreading their viral droplets when they cough or sneeze.
– People caring for sick people at close quarters.
– In a health-care setting.
– People whose occupation requires them to have close contact with clients.
As it has become socially unacceptable in Hong Kong to NOT wear a mask, there may be situations in which you might choose to wear a mask simply to make other people feel comfortable. But in general, healthy people do not need to wear masks, except when they need to be in crowded places, or with possibly sick people.
Infection Control Protocol?
This to me was the most striking thing I learned from our conversation. I don't think anything like this infection control protocol is yet in place – certainly not throughout the US, nor even in high-risk areas. And it it should be.
From a text from Sarah:
We have triage at the door. People with high-risk travel history can't be seen, have to go directly to government hospital if symptomatic; or if just for routine care, wait 14 days after return (all of which must be healthy). Low risk people with symptoms we isolate immediately; they never enter the main clinic. And we wear PPE [i.e., personal protective equipment] to see them.
In Hong Kong, people are being told to get tested if you think you have been exposed, and/or are symptomatic. Anyone with a fever or respiratory symptoms is tested as a matter of course, upon recommendation of a doctor.
To be fair, I should mention that Hong Kong did not initially test so extensively. Sarah texted me:
Testing has been ramped up gradually. Initially they just added testing of all pneumonia patients, regarless of epidemiological link. The testing of all mildly symptomatic patients with no epidemiologic link is relatively new. A few weeks ago they started offering it in the public hospital A&E's and public outpatient clinics. Then last week they extended that to private sentinel clinics (of which we are one) and this week have extended it to all private clinics
But in the US, even if your doctor wants to test you, no testing kit may be available to conduct the test. This is simply insane, so many weeks, after the disease has taken root in so many places, and after the World Health Organization made accurate tests available months ago.
Hong Kong has also made it easier for patients to test themselves, without involving a health care provider. From a message from Sarah:
They also pioneered a test that patients could do themselves – ie they self-collect a "deep throat saliva" sample at home. That reduces risk of exposure to healthcare workers, as taking nasopharyngeal swabs is "aerosol generating"
So there is considerable scope for United States to learn from Hong Kong's experience and ramp up its testing – without appreciably increasing risk to its health care providers.
One thing talking to Sarah has driven home to me is how poor the comparative US infrastructure for dealing with such a disease is – although she didn't say so in so many words. These are my words, but I don't think she would dispute the conclusion.
Contrast that to Hong Kong. From her MediLink interview:
The situation is much less serious in Hong Kong than in mainland China, especially Wuhan and Hubei. We are quite exposed here, because of our close ties with the mainland, but we have a very strong public health system, good resources, and deep experience in managing epidemics. After SARS, Hong Kong set up the Centre for Health Protection (CHP) , which is our version of the CDC in the United States . When COVID-19 emerged, there was already an epidemic management plan in place that just had to be activated. The four best prepared places in Asia are probably Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and South Korea.
Her MediLink interview is upbeat in some ways. Perhaps a better description would be measured. She points out that COVID-19 is less lethal than SARS. But because of that fact, it's much easier to spread:
COVID-19 and SARS do share some common features: they belong to the same family of viruses, they both seem to have jumped from animals to humans, they both originated in China and both can cause severe pneumonia.
But there are some important differences. SARS was more lethal than COVID-19, but less easily transmitted. It went straight for the lungs, and caused severe pneumonia which became transmissible only when patients were quite severely ill and usually by then in hospital. About 10% died .
COVID-19, on the other hand, seems to be more likely to replicate in the upper respiratory tract and it seems like individuals might produce a lot of virus when they are only mildly symptomatic. It's not known how many people with COVID-19 develop pneumonia, but of the ones who do, about 20% get severely ill and fewer than 2% die. Overall death rates are still not known for sure, but are probably less than 1%.
So COVID-19 is a lot less lethal than SARS, but harder to control because it spreads more easily and by people with milder symptoms. That's why, despite being considerably less likely to kill you than SARS was, COVID-19 has still in total killed more people in 6 weeks than SARS did in eight months.
We should recognise considerable advances in infection control have been made since that time. Alas, many countries seem not to have absorbed these lessons – including the United States. Or if they did, that knowledge has failed to translate into effective responses. From MediLink:
Another important difference is that medical science has advanced considerably in the 17 years since SARS. In 2003, it took months to identify the virus and develop a test. For COVID-19 that happened within a couple of weeks. That has made identifying patients a great deal easier. In addition, there are newer treatments and some vaccine prospects already in the works.
Epidemic control is something that has confounded the US political system. The relevant public health officials may know what needs to be done, they're not doing it. That may simply be, at least in part, because resources are simply not available. It's also due to the way we divide authority for such problems, with responsibility largelylodged at the state and local level. And the reflexive reliance on neoliberal, market-based solutions is also at fault. There are some things government is uniquely positioned to provide, but many are no longer capable of recognising that simple fact.
Over to Sarah's MediLink interview again:
The most important thing we learned from SARS was that infectious diseases do not respect borders or government edicts, and cannot be hidden. It requires international cooperation, transparency and sharing of information to control an epidemic.
We also learned the importance of providing good, balanced, reliable information to the public. In any epidemic, there is the outbreak of disease and then there is the epidemic of panic. And nowadays, there is also what the WHO has termed the Infodemic , the explosion of information about the epidemic. Some of it is good information, but some of it is rumour, myth, speculation and conspiracy theory, and those things feed the anxiety. It can be hard to sort out which information to believe, so it is important to choose trustworthy sources. Panic and misinformation make controlling the outbreak more difficult.
On a day when markets are melting down, and people are succumbing to panic,I can only say, keep calm. And to remind everyone: wash your hands!
Eustache de Saint Pierre , March 9, 2020 at 12:07 pm
The only query I would have with that is in reference to masks, is that people who appear healthy can be asymptomatic so are therefore spreading the disease, which I believe that masks would help prevent.
Ignacio , March 9, 2020 at 1:02 pm
The problem is that there are no masks for everybody so these should be available for those who need them the most . This is a F*c*n*gly problematic issue and that is why there must be a campaign against massive mask usage.
It has to be repeated 100 1000 1000000s times but we f*c**gl* avoid to understand this necessity.
Ignacio , March 9, 2020 at 12:56 pm
Today has been a day of overreaction indeed. I would point as an addition to Sarah remarks on disease spreading that regarding weather, temperature and humidity as important or even more important than virus air transmission or fomites-led transmission is our susceptibility to infection.
A healthy mucosal epithelium contains non-specific barriers to virus and other pathogens including our normal microbiota, enzymes and various types of fibers acting as a physico-chemical barrier for virus entry. In winter, these barriers are less efficient.
The same virus load will not have the same effect in winter or in summer in the nasopharyngeal tract. In this sense HK and NY are not comparable. Regarding the lessons of SARS epidemics, if one of them is to keep calm that is a goos lesson. If another lessons is to identify the sites that need stronger protection, that is another good lesson. A third good lesson would be awareness on precautions to be taken personally. Anyway given differences between SARS1 and 2 in virulence and epidemiology there are not many more lessons to learn. Again comparing Singapore or HK with NY in terms of potential fatalities is not spot on for weather reasons.
The main failure in Italy first, or in Spain now, has IMO been on lack of awareness. No overreaction is needed but good reaction would have made things better if the objective is to reduce fatalities and avoid HC services being overwhelmed. Focus on safety in hospitals is a must. Focusing on safety in residences for the elder is a second must (this has been noticed too late for many).
This evening I will have a discussion with my son that wants to go to a concert next saturday in a closed ambient. I think that the government will come to my rescue and forbid this class of events.
carl , March 9, 2020 at 1:09 pm
The tide has now gone out, and has revealed that the US is swimming naked.
Mar 07, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
The AP reports on more of the Trump White House's bungling of the coronavirus response:
The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus, a federal official told The Associated Press.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention submitted the plan this week as a way of trying to control the virus, but White House officials ordered the air travel recommendation be removed, said the official who had direct knowledge of the plan. Trump administration officials have since suggested certain people should consider not traveling, but they have stopped short of the stronger guidance sought by the CDC.
There is no good reason for the White House to prevent this recommendation from being made public. This is another example of how the president and his top officials are trying to keep up the pretense that the outbreak is much less dangerous than it actually is, and in doing so they are helping to make the outbreak worse than it has to be.
For the last several weeks, we have seen the president and top administration officials presenting the public with misleading and outright false information in an effort to conceal the magnitude of the problem and the extent of their initial failures. The president has been unwilling to tell the public the truth about the situation because he evidently cares more about the short-term political implications than he does about protecting the public:
Even as the government's scientists and leading health experts raised the alarm early and pushed for aggressive action, they faced resistance and doubt at the White House -- especially from the president -- about spooking financial markets and inciting panic.
"It's going to all work out," Mr. Trump said as recently as Thursday night. "Everybody has to be calm. It's going to work out."
Justin Fox comments on the president's terrible messaging:
The biggest problem, though, is simply the way that the president talks about the disease. His instinct at every turn is to downplay its danger and significance.
Minimizing the danger and significance of the outbreak ensured that the government's response was less urgent and focused than it could have been. It encouraged people to take it less seriously and thus made it more likely that the virus would spread. Then when the severity of the problem became undeniable, the earlier discredited happy talk makes it easier for people to disbelieve what the government tells them in the future.
The administration had time to prepare a more effective response, but as I said last week the administration frittered away the time they had. They were still preoccupied with keeping the virus out rather than trying to manage its spread once it arrived here, as it was inevitably going to do:
"We have contained this. I won't say airtight but pretty close to airtight," White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said in a television interview on Feb. 25, echoing Trump's tweeted declaration that the virus was "very much under control" in the United States.
But it wasn't, and the administration's rosy messaging was fundamentally at odds with a growing cacophony of alarm bells inside and outside the U.S. government. Since January, epidemiologists, former U.S. public health officials and experts have been warning, publicly and privately, that the administration's insistence that containment was -- and should remain -- the primary way to confront an emerging infectious disease was a grave mistake.
The initial response and the stubborn refusal to adapt to new developments have meant that the U.S. is in a much worse position in handling this outbreak than many other countries. Max Nisen comments on the lack of testing in the U.S.:
Don't cheer just yet. The lower case count doesn't mean Americans are doing a better job of containing the virus; rather, it reflects the fact that the U.S. is badly behind in its ability to test people. The Centers for Disease Control stopped disclosing how many people it has tested as of Monday, but an analysis by The Atlantic could only confirm 1,895 tests. Switzerland, a country with fewer residents than New Jersey, has tested nearly twice as many people. The U.K., which has far fewer cases, has tested over 20,000. This gap is particularly worrisome given evidence of community spread in a number of different states and a high death count, both of which suggest the number of cases will jump as more tests are conducted.
Capacity is finally ramping up, but only after weeks of delays prompted by unforced errors and botched early test kits from the CDC. The continuing inability to test broadly is leading to missed cases, more infections, and an outbreak that will be bigger than it needed to be.
The administration not only bungled their initial response, but they have also been extremely resistant to admitting error. Trump's appointees are reluctant to contradict the president when he spouts nonsense about the outbreak, and that in turn makes it more difficult for them to communicate clearly and consistently with the public. All of this serves to undermine public trust in the government's response, and it prevents health officials from being able to do their jobs without political interference. The federal government's response has been hampered by a president who wants to make people think that the problem isn't that bad and is already being dealt with successfully:
At the White House, Trump and many of his aides were initially skeptical of just how serious the coronavirus threat was, while the president often seemed uninterested as long as the virus was abroad. At first, when he began to engage, he downplayed the threat -- "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA," he tweeted in late February -- and became a font of misinformation and confusion, further muddling his administration's response.
On Friday, visiting the CDC in Atlanta, the president spewed more falsehoods when he claimed, incorrectly: "Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. They're there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful."
When the president lies about such a serious matter, he is causing unnecessary confusion and he is sending exactly the wrong message that remedying earlier failures is not an urgent priority. Because Trump's primary concern is making himself look good in the short term, he is willing to risk a worse outbreak. During his visit to the CDC, the president went on in an even more bizarre vein to praise the tests by comparing them to his "perfect call" with the Ukrainian president last summer that led to his impeachment:
In an attempt to express confidence in the CDC's coronavirus test (the agency's second attempt after the first one it developed failed), Trump offered an unorthodox comparison from the last enormous crisis to swamp his presidency. The tests are just like his impeachment-causing attempt to pressure a foreign government to help him get reelected. "The tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good," Trump told reporters after falsely stating, again, that anyone who needed a test right now could get one.
This morning the president was back at it this morning with more self-serving misinformation:
We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus. We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 8, 2020
The president needs people to think that everything he does is perfect, so he is incapable of acknowledging his failures and prefers to vilify accurate reporting about those failures. He cannot help but mismanage the government response because he cannot put the national interest ahead of his own selfishness. An untold number of Americans will be paying a steep price for the president's unfitness for office in the weeks and months to come.
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Englewood • 12 hours ago
"An untold number of Americans will be paying a steep price for the president's unfitness for office in the weeks and months to come."SFBay1949 Englewood • 6 hours ago • editedWe've been paying it for a while. It's just more obvious now. I wish I never voted for him.
I wish you had thought a bit into the future before you voted him. Did you really think things wouldn't turn out EXACTLY the way they have? Honestly, it's to rime tell the truth here.Englewood SFBay1949 • 5 hours agoIt's the Democrats who should have thought a bit into the future. It was the identity and known character and policies of Trump's opponent that tipped my vote to Trump. And no, obviously I didn't think things would turn out "exactly" this way. I thought if I put up with his repulsive manner I'd get maybe a third of his main campaign promises and that the GOP establishment would get the hiding it deserves. Boy, was I wrong.SFBay1949 Englewood • 3 hours agoI take you believe Hillary Clinton was worse than Trump. Fair enough, but do you still think our country would be in the state it is now? In what way could she possibly be worse than what we have now with Trump?Brandon Falusi SFBay1949 • 4 hours agoIt's better for Trumpism to have burst like a zit onto the mirror, no matter how disgusting, because it was all there anyway under Bush and Cheney, it was there alongside "Barack the magic... birth certificate!" You can fairly easily wash off the stain of Bush and Rumsfeld, you can sort of start to forget their sublime horror, the exact same level of lies and utter mismanagement, but you can't wash off a man like Trump, ever. His portrait will be in the White House so future Americans can see what we're capable of, and hopefully be more vigilant about the subtle and polished lies and civilized outrages. We needed this barbaric display to get some clarity.King George • 12 hours ago"The president has been about the situation because he evidently cares more about the
short-term political implications than he does about protecting the public"It's no different from the first two years of his presidency. He already betrayed those of us who voted for the America First promises on immigration and ending the wars. He spent most of his doing favors for Wall Street, Israel, and Saudi Arabia instead. Now he's going to betray the many vulnerable elders who voted for him, risking their illness and even death by his selfish evasions and lies. He's a con artist. A fake.
Mar 09, 2020 | www.bloomberg.com
Testing around the U.S. was hampered when local officials reported flaws in the kits the CDC sent. Replacements didn't come until weeks later, which left most hospitals and clinics short of tests. Shifting guidelines for who should get the few tests available also confused hospitals, Diaz said.
At the time, there had still been just the single case reported in Seattle. Trevor Bedford, a Harvard-trained researcher and viral genome expert at the city's Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, wondered why. He had spent weeks analyzing genomes of patients from around the world, tracing minor mutations to deduce how Covid-19 emerged and spread.
The early work found that infections were doubling roughly every six days, and that for every three to four rounds of transmission -- or once every 20 to 30 days -- one minor mutation was occurring, Bedford said in a Feb. 13 interview. "We are watching very carefully for more local transmission," he said at the time.
They soon found it: a teenager with mild symptoms who attended a high school about 15 miles from where the first case was identified -- someone who wouldn't have been tested because he or she didn't meet the criteria. But the results showed up in the Seattle Flu Study, a project on which Bedford is a lead scientist.
The new case, announced Feb. 28, was genetically identical to the original except for three minor mutations in the virus. And it contained a key genetic variant that was present only in two of 59 viral samples from China. This type of circumstantial evidence stops just short of proving a chain of transmission. It's possible the Washington cluster didn't derive from the known Patient Zero, but another case that came into Washington the same time and went undetected. Still, Bedford calculated a 97 percent probability the new case was a direct descendant -- one that hadn't been spotted because of the narrow testing at that time, Bedford wrote in a March 2 post.
"This lack of testing was a critical error and allowed an outbreak in Snohomish County and surroundings to grow to a sizable problem before it was even detected," he wrote.
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All told, 31 Kirkland firefighters -- almost a third of the department -- in addition to 10 from other communities as well as some relatives have been quarantined, adding to the stress on emergency teams.Bedford, the genome expert, is working with University of Washington researchers to understand the extent of the spread. Last week, the university started using its own virus test, a modified version of one created by the World Health Organization. When a positive result is found in a sample, the researchers perform a second round of tests to sequence the viral genome.
Pavitra Roychoudhury, a university researcher in charge of sequencing, said technicians have been working late into the night to complete as many samples and sequences as possible. She puts her toddler to bed and then logs back into her computer.
On a call with reporters on Monday, Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, called Bedford's theory "an interesting hypothesis" but said other possibilities have not been ruled out. "There are alternate explanations of the same findings," she said. There may have been a "secondary seeding" in the community, she said, as more recent cases in Washington match viral sequences posted in China.
So far, Bedford has reported, sequencing still suggests the transmission is related to the original patient -- and the number of active infections could reach 1,100 by March 10 and 2,000 by March 15.
What's more, the state's early cases may have seeded infections now exploding on the cruise ship Grand Princess off California's coast, he tweeted this week. Researchers from the University of California at San Francisco have said the viral strain from a patient infected on the ship is similar to the cluster circulating in Washington state. -- With assistance by Emma Court and Michelle Fay Cortez
Mar 09, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org
As COVID-19 begins its inevitable "community transmission" phase around the United States, the purveyors of the conventional wisdom are largely focused on President Trump's (and by extension, prayerful Vice President Pence's) incompetence and his self-serving, empathy-free approach to the coronavirus. And it is true that, as with all things Trump, it seems that all he really cares about is the stock market and its effect on his reelection bid. But Trump's narcissism obscures something both far more pernicious and far more permanent than his oft-televised obsession with himself and that's the fact that he's been busily making Milton Friedman's "Supply Side/The Bottom Line Is The Only Line" dream an intractable reality.
It was a dream that first took flight when Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980. The dream was often made manifest by the neoliberal lurch and deregulatory impulses of President Bill Clinton. But it is Trump who's come closest to fully realizing the dream of ending responsive government. It should come as no surprise, though. Trump lifted, among other things , his " Make America Great Again " slogan from the Gipper. He's also taken Reagan's anti-FDR pitch about the dangers of government (see "The Deep State") and, with the help of a motley crew of Tea Partiers, Evangelicals and corporate Republicans, transformed it into, as Steve Bannon calls it, a " War on the Administrative State ."
Since taking office and taking complete control of the news-cycle, Trump has been systematically starving Federal agencies of resources, personnel and attention. He has, through the sycophants and lobbyists he's installed around the Executive Branch, been pushing out career professionals and barely replacing them with also-rans. And he is dismantling every aspect of government he cannot use to reward his corporate clients or punish political apostates.
The idea is to cripple the Federal government from within instead of doing the hard legislative work of changing the laws that legally compel government action. As a result, many of the regulations on the books are becoming functionally irrelevant . Some laws are being rewritten by the lobbyists who used to lobby against 'em, but mostly the Executive Branch is being systematically emaciated by the political equivalent of chronic wasting disease.
It's an approach first pioneered by Reagan devotee Grover Norquist, who advocated " starving the beast " of government down to a manageable size before "drowning it" in a bathtub. It's an idea currently being implemented with wide-ranging effect by Trump, who, like Reagan before him , is accelerating the bankrupting of the already debt-laden treasury with a combo of tax cuts and massive spending on a world-dwarfing defense industry. Eventually, the theory goes, the "safety net," a.k.a. "entitlements," and other "common good" spending will collapse under the weight of the financial limitations generated by profuse borrowing to fund market-distorting tax cuts and to dole out subsidies and tax gifts to cronies and key corporations. All the while, the ever-less regulated chemical, oil, defense, agricultural and (most importantly of all) financial industries will continue to hoard assets through the rinsing and repeating of the supply side boom-and-bust scheme, a.k.a. the business cycle.
Frankly, this all looks like the endgame of a long plan to undo the demand side economy created by the New Deal. Along with the seemingly (but not) contradictory spike in Unitary Executive power (which is about protecting rackets, shielding enforcers from prosecution and about enforcing political compliance), this is a transformation decades in the making and Trump is the perfect salesman for this final episode even better than Reagan or Clinton because his "flood the zone" narcissism is the ultimate, 24/7 distraction for a people addicted to binge watching, inured to scripted reality shows and motivated by belligerent infotainment.
Reagan was the first actor to hit his marks on a stage set for him by the interlocking forces of Big Oil, Big Defense and Wall Street. Not coincidentally, this same Venn Diagram of power has profited mightily from Trump's Presidency. Rather than an actor, though, Trump is the barking emcee of the final season of the American Dream Gameshow a program that was initially cancelled in 1980, but somehow kept running in syndication on one of the two crappy channels a "free" people have been given to chose from. But now, the final credits are closer to rolling that ever before.
As such, Trump is the omega to Reagan's alpha. And any coronavirus-related "incompetence" you see being reported is a feature, not a bug, of this Re-Great'd America. And that's because Trump is not an outlier. He is a culmination.
This article first appeared NewVandal .
JP Sottile is a freelance journalist, published historian, radio co-host and documentary filmmaker (The Warning, 2008). His credits include a stint on the Newshour news desk, C-SPAN, and as newsmagazine producer for ABC affiliate WJLA in Washington. His weekly show, Inside the Headlines w/ The Newsvandal, co-hosted by James Moore, airs every Friday on KRUU-FM in Fairfield, Iowa. He blogs under the pseudonym " the Newsvandal ".
Mar 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Jen , Mar 6 2020 20:01 utc | 13
Likklemore @ 6:The White House should not have needed to look very far to China to prepare for a coronavirus epidemic within the US.
During the 2019-2020 influenza season, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimate that 15 million people came down with flu, of whom 140,000 required hospitalisation. 8,200 deaths were recorded. Over a 4-month period, that averages to 2,050 deaths per month. This is in a country with 1/4 of the population of China's.
If the White House failed to recognise a major health crisis already simmering on its own doorstep, what hope can be held for when the coronavirus epidemic starts sweeping through the inland US, taking out the elderly, the poor and the homeless?
Sturmtruppen's success spurred two cinema adaptations. The first one, Sturmtruppen (1976), was co-written by Bonvicini and directed by Salvatore Samperi. In 1982 a sequel, Sturmtruppen II, was released, again directed by Samperi and featuring Renato Pozzetto, Massimo Boldi and Teo Teocoli.
Bonvi had a small part as a German officer. The quality of the two movies was uneven, albeit some ideas and situations (such as the Captain abusing a life-size plush toy with Karl Marx features -- only to be assaulted and bitten by it -- or the Pope offering a poisoned wafer to the angelic soldier who came from heaven to usher in a new age of Peace) are very biting and sarcastic, on par with the best strips.
On August 16, 2006, Miramax moved forward with plans to create a live-action movie based on Sturmtruppen. It is not known if a script has been written, or who is slated to direct the movie.
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Many writers have addressed the Absurd, each with his or her own interpretation of what the Absurd is and what comprises its importance. For example, Sartre recognizes the absurdity of individual experience, while Kierkegaard explains that the absurdity of certain religious truths prevent us from reaching God rationally. Camus regretted the continued reference to himself as a "philosopher of the absurd". He showed less interest in the Absurd shortly after publishing Le Mythe de Sisyphe (The Myth of Sisyphus). To distinguish his ideas, scholars sometimes refer to the Paradox of the Absurd, when referring to "Camus' Absurd".His early thoughts appeared in his first collection of essays, L'Envers et l'endroit (The Two Sides Of The Coin) in 1937. Absurd themes were expressed with more sophistication in his second collection of essays, Noces (Nuptials), in 1938. In these essays Camus reflects on the experience of the Absurd. In 1942 he published the story of a man living an absurd life as L'Étranger (The Stranger). In the same year he released Le Mythe de Sisyphe (The Myth of Sisyphus), a literary essay on the Absurd. He also wrote a play about Caligula, a Roman Emperor, pursuing an absurd logic. The play was not performed until 1945.
The turning point in Camus' attitude to the Absurd occurs in a collection of four letters to an anonymous German friend, written between July 1943 and July 1944. The first was published in the Revue Libre in 1943, the second in the Cahiers de Libération in 1944, and the third in the newspaper Libertés, in 1945. The four letters were published as Lettres à un ami allemand (Letters to a German Friend) in 1945, and were included in the collection Resistance, Rebellion, and Death.
Ideas on the Absurd
In his essays Camus presented the reader with dualisms: happiness and sadness, dark and light, life and death, etc. His aim was to emphasize the fact that happiness is fleeting and that the human condition is one of mortality. He did this not to be morbid, but to reflect a greater appreciation for life and happiness. In Le Mythe, this dualism becomes a paradox: We value our lives and existence so greatly, but at the same time we know we will eventually die, and ultimately our endeavours are meaningless.
While we can live with a dualism (I can accept periods of unhappiness, because I know I will also experience happiness to come), we cannot live with the paradox (I think my life is of great importance, but I also think it is meaningless).
In Le Mythe, Camus was interested in how we experience the Absurd and how we live with it. Our life must have meaning for us to value it. If we accept that life has no meaning and therefore no value, should we kill ourselves?
In Le Mythe, Camus suggests that 'creation of meaning', would entail a logical leap or a kind of philosophical suicide in order to find psychological comfort. But Camus wants to know if he can live with what logic and lucidity has uncovered – if one can build a foundation on what one knows and nothing more. Creation of meaning is not a viable alternative but a logical leap and an evasion of the problem. He gives examples of how others would seem to make this kind of leap. The alternative option, namely suicide, would entail another kind of leap, where one attempts to kill absurdity by destroying one of its terms (the human being). Camus points out, however, that there is no more meaning in death than there is in life, and that it simply evades the problem yet again. Camus concludes, that we must instead 'entertain' both death and the absurd, while never agreeing to its terms.
Meursault, the absurdist hero of L'Étranger, has killed a man and is scheduled to be executed. Caligula ends up admitting his absurd logic was wrong and is killed by an assassination he has deliberately brought about. However, while Camus possibly suggests that Caligula's absurd reasoning is wrong, the play's anti-hero does get the last word, as the author similarly exalts Meursault's final moments.
Camus made a significant contribution to a viewpoint of the Absurd, and always rejected nihilism as a valid response.
"If nothing had any meaning, you would be right. But there is something that still has a meaning." Second Letter to a German Friend, December 1943.
Camus' understanding of the Absurd promotes public debate; his various offerings entice us to think about the Absurd and offer our own contribution. Concepts such as cooperation, joint effort and solidarity are of key importance to Camus, though they are most likely sources of 'relative' versus 'absolute' meaning.
Religious beliefs and Absurdism
While writing his thesis on Plotinus and Saint Augustine of Hippo, Camus became very strongly influenced by their works, especially that of St. Augustine. In his work, Confessions (consisting of 13 books), Augustine promotes the idea of a connection between God and the rest of the world. Camus identified with the idea that a personal experience could become a reference point for his philosophical and literary writings.
Although he considered himself an atheist, Camus later came to tout the idea that the absence of religious belief can simultaneously be accompanied by a longing for "salvation and meaning". This line of thinking presented an ostensible paradox and became a major thread in defining the idea of absurdism in Camus' writings.[12]
Opposition to totalitarianism
Throughout his life, Camus spoke out against and actively opposed totalitarianism in its many forms.[13] Early on, Camus was active within the French Resistance to the German occupation of France during World War II, even directing the famous Resistance journal, Combat. On the French collaboration with Nazi occupiers he wrote:
- Now the only moral value is courage, which is useful here for judging the puppets and chatterboxes who pretend to speak in the name of the people.[14]
Camus' well-known falling out with Sartre is linked to this opposition to totalitarianism.
Camus detected a reflexive totalitarianism in the mass politics espoused by Sartre in the name of radical Marxism. This was apparent in his work L'Homme Révolté (The Rebel) which not only was an assault on the Soviet police state, but also questioned the very nature of mass revolutionary politics.
Camus continued to speak out against the atrocities of the Soviet Union, a sentiment captured in his 1957 speech, The Blood of the Hungarians, commemorating the anniversary of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution, an uprising crushed in a bloody assault by the Red Army.
Magnificent., June 3, 2007
By M. Harris (New Zealand) - See all my reviews
`On the psychology of military incompetence' is officially on the list of books that Army personnel aren't allowed to read, but since I was given this was a retired general, reading it seemed like the thing to do. I'm pleased I did.To be frank, non-military personnel might not admire its sheer brilliant powers of deductive observation. As soon as I had read it I started to panic as I saw the caricatures played out around me. I then started to spot them in myself, and began to panic harder. I suspect this book is designed to give oneself (if you happen to be in the military) a bit of a fright, and to encourage introspection.
Anyway, it's a brilliant book that's simply chock-full of theories, explanations and uncomfortable questions. I think the uncomfortable questions are the most valuable, but you have to read for yourself to discover if you think the same. And you should read it - it should be required reading for Officer Cadets right up to Generals, and civilians should read it as well - after all, you're the ones ultimately in charge of us gun-slinging types, yes?
A serious look at a deadly problem, March 19, 2007
By In the Middle of the Road (Connecticut)For most people, including most of today's amateur theorists on the events of the day, war is something akin to moving toy soldiers around. What they know of military matters is all too akin to cheering for a sports team. They want someone with a can do spirit and the willingness to charge into stiff resistance. Take that hill no matter what the cost. Fight to the death. A lot of horse manure.
War is a deadly business and there is probably no war in which incompetence was not afoot, whether in losing or in winning. Mix incompetence and a failure to understand the technology of war and you have WWI. The reality is that incompetence is as pervasive in the military as it is in the corporate world. And if we must fight wars, we should have a reasonable expectation tht the people who direct that effort have some idea of waht they are about. Dixon is concerned primarily with generalship.
I first read this when it was first published in the UK at least a couple of decades ago. It filled an important gap in the range of serious reading on both the military and organization behavior. As another reader notes, this is just organization behavior mil101.Most corporations are still organizing along military lines and that cuts through titles like team leader and associate. It is hard business to make it work right and too many times in the military, there is a failure of competence.
The fields o fhte world are littled with the remains of those who died through bad generals. Dixon reflects some of his own military experience in the British Army, including WWII, before he entered the Psychology field. There is a British emphasis, but the approach is generally and applies broadly to any military. And the examples he cites are among those that are studied deeply for implications. He covers the field from the intellectual capability of generals to a chapter that for the sake of review rules must be labeled as Bull droppings.How do we deal with incompetent leadership? That is one of the questions Dixon addresses. It probably should be extended to political leaders given their power over warmaking.
In our day, we are assaulted with people who accuse their opponents of micromanaging war in Iraq. A decade or two from now, it may be somewhere else. But what we began doing in Vietnam was executive branch micromanaging and that was greatly expanded during the Iraq fiasco to the point that many left senior ranks. We look closely at our generals, but can we afford to go to war without understanding the competence gap that we might have in political leadership..
Irreverent, superbly written, interdisciplinary, enlightenin, September 29, 1998
By A CustomerDixon is a former artillery officer, Sandhurst graduate, and self-described authoritarian personality, who left the Army and became a clinical psychologist. He uses both sets of experiences to analyze why officers in armies throughout history--mostly British, but the principles are generally applicable--have fallen into a stereotypical pattern of incompetence specific to senior military leaders. Much of the reason, he believes, derives from personality development, but the book is refreshingly devoid of psychobabble and is written in an astonishingly clear style. A real eye-opener, after which military history will not be quite the same to the reader again.
February 28, 2012 | Blind Bat News"The direct causes of the nuclear accident were the unpreparedness of Tokyo Electric Power…and the government's lack of a sense of responsibility."-Koichi Kitazawa, lead investigator
A Japanese government sanctioned independent investigation has revealed gross incompetence in the wake of the March, 2011, nuclear disaster at Fukushima Daiichi. It also says that Tokyo Electric made the situation worse!
Six investigators interviewed more than 300 people, including Japanese and U.S. government officials. However, officials at Tokyo Electric refused to co-operate with the investigators! They have just published their findings, February 28, 2012.
The report calls government response "off the cuff", and "too late" (as I was posting last year)! The nuclear power plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCo), was ill prepared for a nuclear disaster, despite decades of telling locals they were prepared (as I posted last year). The Japanese government, especially the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, failed to ensure the proper training for nuclear disaster response (as I posted last year). The report also blames Japan's complicated system of delegating authority and responsibility. No one knew who was supposed to do what regarding the disaster; from top national government officials down to sub-contractors working for TEPCo (again, as I posted last year).Things were so bad that local governments have been taking the initiative to try and deal with things like relocating residents, and decontamination efforts, with little help from the national government (again, I posted).
Also, many of the discoveries of radiation contamination came as a result of individuals and private groups, who took it upon themselves to pay for testing things like dirt, water, and even food, like beef, sold in grocery stores (again, I). It was local governments who discovered farm crops to be contaminated (posted last year). The report also says that information coming from the private sector to government officials was insufficient to make proper decisions. TEPCo officials simply dragged their feet when it came to dealing with specific issues, like cooling systems being shut down, and vents not being opened. Not only did TEPCo drag their feet, but the investigators found that there was a back up cooling system that was functional, but TEPCo never used it!!! Although Japan's government has a crisis management policy, the investigators said it is totally useless!
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For additional background, it's helpful to look at the 2006 National Audit Office report (emphasis added below):
The single payment scheme is not a large grant scheme compared to some government programmes, but the complexity of the EU Regulations, the complex way in which the Department planned to implement them in England, combined with the deadlines required to implement the scheme for 2005, made it a high risk project. By choosing to integrate the scheme into a wider business change programme, the Agency added to its already considerable challenges.
Many of the Agency's difficulties arose, however, from:
- underestimating the scale of the work needed to implement the scheme;
- over optimistic progress reporting; and
- governance structures which, in practice, proved overly complex, and the absence of clear metrics, arising from the lack of appropriate management information that would have allowed the oversight boards to measure progress objectively.
By the end of March 2006 implementation of the single payment scheme had cost £46.5 million more than the Agency had anticipated in its November 2003 business case. The implementation of the single payment scheme and the wider business change programme had cost £258.3 million, will not achieve the level of savings forecast, and there is risk of substantial costs for disallowance by the European Commission. The farming industry has also incurred additional costs, 20 per cent of farmers have experienced stress and anxiety as a result, and five per cent of respondents to our survey said they have considered leaving farming.
MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITY
The level of RPA mismanagement can hardly be over-estimated. As a small example, representing a broader pattern, see this House of Commons testimony (section EV8), by Johnston McNeill, former RPA boss, during an inquiry into the SPS debacle (emphasis added below):
Had we known that there was going to be that [level of claimant and land registration] volume, we could have looked at the volumes that the system could handle; whereas we could only look at the normal requirements. When we specified this system in 20034, when we were talking to Accenture, we had had a lengthy contract procurement and specification. We were specifying without any understanding of SPS requirements. We were specifying on our normal business requirements.
Although government incompetence has played a role, Accenture's involvement in this mess should not be ignored. Commenting on Accenture, a House of Commons investigating committee stated on page 5 (emphasis added below):
Accenture witnesses appeared to have been well schooled in not venturing comment on matters which they deemed were beyond their contractual observations. This attitude denied the Committee an important perspective on the way the SPS project was being run from the standpoint of a company at the heart of the venture. We regard this as an unacceptable attitude from a company of international repute and which may still aspire to work with UK government in other areas.
In evidence submitted to the House of Commons, Accenture denied responsibility for the problems, saying that (emphasis added below):
As has been widely acknowledged by numerous commentators and experts, significant IT enabled business change programmes can be difficult to manage. There have been many examples of problem projects in the public and private sectors in recent years with difficulties attributed to poorly defined requirements, changing business needs and lack of business involvement and preparedness that can lead to delivery difficulties.
NAO RECOMMENDATIONS
To address the issues, the National Audit Office offers these suggestions:
We recommend that the Agency:
- recovers high value overpayments to farmers (such as those over £25,000) as soon as practicable;
- brings its key offline databases into the single payment scheme IT system to make its forecasts more accurate and reliable;
- in the event that the European Union makes policy changes to the scheme, explores whether its existing IT systems would be able to accommodate such changes without the need for major redesign of the application. If the system is unlikely to be able to accommodate such changes, the Agency should notify its Management Board and the Department of the risks accordingly and update farmers once a revised timetable can be defined;
- draws on the good practices we identified from the IT systems supporting the German model of the single payment scheme on how to keep claimants informed about the progress of their claims, and the online processes already available to German farmers to transfer entitlements; and
- learns lessons from implementation of this IT system, to take account of best practice. In particular, the Agency should:
- use appropriate off the shelf rather than bespoke software whenever practicable, after considering business needs and scheme complexity, because bespoke software is costly to develop, needs to be thoroughly tested, and takes more time to implement;
- avoid offline systems, on which the main IT system depends;
- align the system to business needs, rather than the business to the system needs, applying caution to any significant movement away from tried and trusted business methods to accommodate the IT system; and
- ensure the system specifications retain a realistic level of flexibility to cope with future changes.
MY ANALYSIS
The National Audit Office recommendations listed above illustrate the extent to which basic IT best practices were not followed. Consider this as well:
- RPA developed custom software, rather than use off-the-shelf products. What was Accenture's role in this decision? It's precisely the kind of issue I addressed in a blog post called Consulting's dirty little secret, which explained how consulting companies can gain financial benefit when a project becomes larger and more complex than expected.
- RPA created databases in which data was stored in computers disconnected from the main system, despite the fact the main system depended on that data to function properly. Such issues force questions around who designed this system, from both technical and business perspectives, and how experienced these folks actually were.
- In general, the entire situation represents poor planning and project management taken to new heights of incompetence. Despite complexities in aligning UK practices with EU policies, both RPA and Accenture designed and executed a system based on poor practices, lack of experience, and world-class levels of bad planning.
IMPACT ON VICTIMS
This situation is different from many government IT failures, where money is wasted but innocent victims don't suffer personal injury. In this case, delayed and incorrect payments have directly affected farmers depending on subsidies to maintain their operations. In the words of Roger Williams, Liberal Democrat from Wales:
Farmers have found it difficult to accommodate problems with cash flow. Mention has been made of paying bills, but at the end of this week interest payments will be due on most accounts. That money will be taken out of the farmers' accounts. They will not have to make a conscious decision about it; the money will be removed from their accounts. That may take them above the level that they have agreed with their banks, and they will suffer the financial consequences-not just additional interest, but the other costs involved.
The BBC further reports on the damage caused to farmers:
Farmers in the East are being forced to the brink of bankruptcy by the Government's failure to pay their subsidies.
Many are struggling to survive while awaiting money from the Single Payment Scheme (SPS).
Johnston McNeill, former head of the RPA, eventually apologized for his agency's role in the disastrous situation:
"I deeply regret that we in the RPA and I as chief executive were not able to make payments to farmers in the targeted timetable". He said he was "saddened by the consequences".
Unfortunately, apologies coming from a man who earned £250,000 per year (about US$500,000), while inflicting such damage on his constituency, leave only a bereft and hollow sound.
May 4, 1997
DILBERT MEANS BUSINESS. The (anti-)hero of one of the most successful comic strips of our time is an icon for office workers everywhere - the only character property that speaks to business through multiple media outlets including the daily comic-strip, an award-winning web site and a best-selling publishing program.
Anybody who works in an office or deals with bureaucracy relates to Dilbert's plight. Created by Scott Adams, Dilbert addresses issues ranging from office-envy/challenges to new technology - and the mayhem they produce. Dilbert features a rich cast of characters, including his sidekick Dogbert, his inept Boss, and his co-workers Wally and Alice. Primary target group for the property is adults 18-49 years old - affluent, educated and technology savvy.
The Dilbert daily comic strip appears in 2.000 newspapers in 65 countries worldwide in 25 different languages. More than 20 million Dilbert books and calendars have been sold in North America alone; several titles cumulatively spending over one year on The New York Times Best Seller List. The Dilbert Principle is categorically the best selling business book of all time.Dilbert was also the first syndicated comic strip character to officially go online, and the strip was the first to contain its creator's e-mail address. The award-winning web site The Dilbert Zone attracts millions of visitors each month. A Dilbert television series premiered in 1999, with Scott Adams and Larry Charles (Mad About You, Seinfeld) as executive producers.
Working as a computer engineer, Scott Adams started drawing Dilbert doodles to "enliven boring staff meetings". The character soon became so popular that other people at the company started using the character in their presentations. A "name-the-nerd" contest soon followed, and Dilbert was the obvious winner. After a few years, a contract was made with United Media, and Dilbert - "a composite of my co-workers during the years", Adams says - went from doodles to dailies.
Since then, Scott Adams has been awarded several prestigious prizes, including the National Cartoonist Society's Reuben Award for Outstanding Cartoonist of the Year and Best Newspaper Comic Strip (1997); Prix d'Excellence for Dogbert's Top Secret Management Handbook from the Maxim Business Club, Paris (1998), and the prize for Best International Comic Strip at the International Comic-Salon, Erlangen, Germany (1998).
Says Emmy Award winning Larry Charles, writer/producer of the Dilbert TV series: "Dilbert is a big Kafkaesque story of a little, logical man in a big, illogical world". In an environment where all bosses and many co-workers are heartless and stupid parasites, Dilbert stands out as the engineer with an active imagination and a His true love? Technology. Dilbert loves technology for the sake of technology; In fact, he loves technology more than people – he'd rather surf the Internet than Waikiki.
Dilbert's dog Dogbert is no man's best friend. His not-so secret ambition is to conquer the world and enslave all humans - whom he feels have been placed on this earth to amuse him. Dig deep enough below his fur, and you'll find a cynical, arrogant conniving little mutt with his paw on the pulse of the absurdity of corporate culture.
Years ago in Cleveland I saw the musical "How To Succeed in Business Without Really Trying," mail clerk J. Pierpont Finch's hilarious romp up the corporate ladder. I remember using that experience as a take-off point for a sermon on business ethics - with the president and vice-president of the Cleveland Chamber of Commerce in the congregation. I was young and foolhardy then. Now I am old and foolhardy -- as once again I attempt to enter a world in which I have had little experience, but about which I have many opinions.
Cartoonist Scott Adams in his strip Dilbert has updated "how to succeed" and created a primer on how not to succeed in business and in life. The Dilbert Principle is that "the most ineffective people are moved to the place where they can do the least amount of damage: management."
In Gilbert on Dilbert I suggest instead the Gilbert Principle - that our most important real life task is management - the management of meaning in our lives.
I am convinced that good cartoonists, as few others, have their pulse on the Zeitgeist - the spirit of the times.
Scott Adams' cartoon critique of management has become the talk of the town. Dilbert's boss comes in for most abuse. For example, Adams parodies a management buzz word, reengineering, about which the boss says, "Everybody's doing it. We'd better jump under the bandwagon before the train leaves the station." Mixed metaphors are always dangerous.
Have you ever written a mission statement? Been there, done that. In another strip he satirizes the omnipresent mission statement, which he defines as "a long awkward sentence that demonstrates management's inability to think clearly."
The Boss says, "I took a crack at writing a 'mission statement' for our group.
'We enhance stockholder value through strategic business initiatives by empowered employees working new team paradigms.'"
Dilbert: "Do you ever just marvel at the fact we get paid to do this?"
The Boss: "Did anybody bring donuts?"
One of Adams' E-mail correspondents demonstrated the observation that Dilbert is more documentary than satire. "My boss actually said to me 'Let's bubble back up to the surface and smell the numbers.' I had no idea what it meant." As Adams says, "No matter how absurd I try to make the comic strip, I can't stay ahead of what people are experiencing in the workplace."
Though he was fired from his job in corporate America, Adams personally thinks that corporate downsizing often does make the workplace more efficient - fewer workers means less time to waste on idiotic pursuits like vision statements, meetings and reorganizations - he nonetheless makes that phenomenon the target of many of his barbs.
One strip begins with a boss announcing he will be using humor to ease tensions caused by trimming the work force.
'I've decided to use humor in the workplace. Experts say humor eases tension which is important in times when the workforce is being trimmed. "Knock, knock," says the boss.
"Who's there?" asks a hapless worker.
"Not you anymore," responds the grinning boss.
But Adams' cynicism about human nature does not stop with the boss. Co-workers also seem to be caught up in this absurd work culture. A group of workers gather around another's desk.
One says,
"We're sorry to hear you're getting laid off, Bruce. We calculated that if ten of your friends here took ten percent pay cuts, then the company can keep you."
Bruce: "Gosh! You'd do that for me?"
"No, we're here to look at your office furniture."
What is the gospel according to Dilbert? There are times when Scott Adams becomes a prophet, skewering perceived injustice, mocking dehumanizing practices that are too close to reality for comfort. He writes about a familiar corporate mantra: "'Employees are our most valuable asset.' On the surface this statement seems to be at odds with the fact that companies are treating their "most valuable assets" the same way a leaf blower treats leaves. How can this apparent contradiction be explained?"
He treats this issue in a cartoon in which the boss admits he was mistaken that "employees are our most valuable asset." Actually, he explains, "they're ninth." "Eighth place?" someone asks. "Carbon paper," says the boss.
After a particular "downsizing" there were unused work cubicles which the company decided to hire Dogbert Construction to retrofit them and rent them out to the state as a prison.
Dilbert: "I don't think it's fair to put convicts in our spare cubicles."
Dogbert: "Don't be such a bigot. These people have made one little mistake. Otherwise, they're just like employees."
Dilbert: "I think there are a few differences."
Dogbert: "Yeah, their health care is better."
How are we to assess Adams? Is he prophet or embittered employee getting back at his former bosses? I think Adams is no prophet but a social critic. He has a totally cynical view of human nature. His characters are not suffering from paranoia, people are out to get them -- from the boss to the stockholders to their fellow-workers. These characters are totally self-interested, with no discernible trace of altruism.
One reporter asked him, "Are you as cynical as you seem?" "Yes. I don't think what I'm doing is based on rage, but I'm terribly amused by the absurd.
The absurdity stands out more in a business setting because there's an expectation that people will act rationally. But people aren't rational."
Whether or not Dilbert is true to life, it is close enough that millions of people read it daily. In one survey of workers indicate that 87% say their workplace is a "pleasant environment," but Adams responds, "If you're in an absurd situation and you're not changing it, then you define it as being OK."
And it is true that more than 70% of workers report stress on the job, suggesting that there may well be a kind of suppressed rage in America's workplaces. Dilbert's problem is that he is totally dehumanized by his work environment. Certainly my conversations with many of you indicate that working isn't what it used to be - that work has become an ordeal - that it is robbing people not only of their time, but also of their human dignity.
For such people Dilbert is a pleasant catharsis. But Adams has been roundly criticized by more radical cartoonists as being "on the side of the ruling class," betraying "millions of insecure and beleaguered office workers" who consider him their champion. It is "not very radical commentary to say 'Boy, aren't bosses dumb.' There's no analysis, even in a goofy way, of why bosses act the way they do.
It's 'Boy is my boss dumb,' but not 'Boy, is this huge company stupid for doing this merger and laying off half its employees and devastating the local economy and shipping the jobs to Mexico or Indonesia.' Criticizing stupid bosses without putting them in context is like complaining because it gets dark at night without understanding that the earth revolves around the sun. It's a really limited view. It doesn't go anywhere. It's just a safety valve."
I confess I am somewhat suspicious of Adams' credentials as the prophet of the workplace. I withhold that status from anyone who in critiquing the corporation has become one, anyone who proudly admits he has always wanted "to make as much money as I could....If you can write on it, if it will hold a label, it's a prime target for licensing. You can't get to overexposure without getting to filthy rich first."
What is disturbing in Dilbert is the relative equanimity with which the office workers accept their plight. Passivity is their chief character trait. They seem to be automatons who do not so much live in, as simply respond to, their environment.
One wonders if painting this humorous picture of their ineptitude, their shallowness of life, their willingness to go along with absurdity, is a step on the way to ending the insanity. Or does it simply help them deal with it by laughing at it?
After all, CEO's and management consultants post the cartoons on their office bulletin boards - how penetrating can this critique be if the targets simply divert the satirical arrows with a laugh? Adams says they always think he's pointing the finger at somebody else. Does Dilbert merely co-opt workers who ought to be struggling to humanize their work environment instead of making the best of their dehumanization?
Adams seems to be ambivalent on his role. On the one hand he defends himself by saying "anything which can be mocked will not last...." but who is to say it won't last? And, on the other, he says, "My goal is not to change the world. My goal is to make a few bucks and hope you laugh in the process." He is hoisted on the petard of his own cynicism.
What is going to stop our thoughtless, dangerous, headlong dash into the 21st century in which work once more becomes drudgery - albeit a high tech one - a drudgery which increasingly consumes our lives.
In the mid-1990's the Apple Macintosh development team wore T shirts proclaiming "90 hours a week and loving it!" Is that the kind of brave new world we want? We seem caught up in a momentum about which many of us complain, but about which we seem to be able to do little or nothing. We accept the new oppression with nary a critical word - so fearful are we for our jobs.
Now the cartoonist, of course, is not really supposed to be a social revolutionary, but is Adams helping sustain a workplace environment which so often saps the human spirit by merely encouraging us to laugh at it?
Or is he launching a long-overdue conversation about the place of work in human life? Is Adams helping or hindering our headlong dash into the brave new world where we live faster and faster, with more and more, for less and less meaning?
In 1987 social critic Jeremy Rifkin uttered these prophetic words:
"We have quickened the pace of life only to become less patient. We have become more organized but less spontaneous, less joyful. We are better prepared to act on the future but less able to enjoy the present and reflect on the past."
Is that to be the culmination of our evolution as spiritual creatures? That our work will suck the life force from us, as it did for Scott Adams. Are you happy in your work? Does it add meaning to your life? If so, good. If not, what are you, what can you, do about it?
The Dilbert solution of supine acquiescence in absurdity is a spiritually fatal position. It is a study in how not to succeed in the business of life. Adams offers us no hope. The Gilbert principle is that we need to manage the meaning of our lives in the workplace - for it is there, increasingly, that humanity's fate is being decided. It would not be not enough for me to endure the absurdity of the workplace, to find a humorous "haven in a heartless world." It is our task to make that world less heartless.
Sources:
Business Week, 5/27/96, 46.
U.S. News and World Report, 4/22/96, 77.
Fortune, 5/13/96, pp. 99-110.
Newsweek, 8/12/96, pp. 52-57.
Windows, 5/95, reprinted in Utne Reader, 7-8/95, 88-9.
Salon - on line
USA Weekend, 7/26-28/96, 10, and 3/21-23/97, 18.
Rochester Democrat & Chronicle, 2/23/97, 1E.
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