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[Jul 26, 2020] Takes much more bravery to go against the dumbass belligerent society you are unfortunately born into

Jul 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

obwandiyag , says: July 23, 2020 at 11:44 pm GMT

@Wade onal murderers, do ya?

You're right about the rich eating our lunch.

But you're wrong about Marines. They kill people for a living. Innocent people. Like Iraqis. And Afghans. Anyone who thinks that murdering Iraqis and Afghans, who never did nothing to Americans, nor Vietnamese, who also did nothing to Americans, or, as Cassius Clay said, "I ain't got nothing against no Vietcong." And he didn't. Because he was an American. So, I thank the service of conscientious objectors, draft dodgers, and deserters. They are the real heroes. Takes much more bravery to go against the dumbass belligerent society you are unfortunately born into. Oh, fuck it, you'll never understand.

Wade , says: July 24, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT
@obwandiyag ompletely object to our whole response to 911 as it was indeed a false flag.

If so many people were so easily fooled in the US by our "American Pravda" including myself, how can I hold it against an 18 year old or some other kid who hasn't even gone to college that he too cannot see through the dense haze of lies bellowed by those who rule over us? So yes, I admire their bravery but I want desperately for the US military to withdraw from the Middle East (and most everywhere else) and return home to protect us and only us from any real invasion should it ever occur.

We need a) a good military and b) honest leadership. We have the former but not the latter.

[Jul 26, 2020] Patriotic Dissent- How A Working-Class Soldier Turned Against -Forever Wars- -

Jul 26, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Patriotic Dissent: How A Working-Class Soldier Turned Against "Forever Wars"


by Tyler Durden Sat, 07/25/2020 - 00:05 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Steve Early and Suzanne Gordon via Counterpunch.org,

When it comes to debate about US military policy, the 2020 presidential election campaign is so far looking very similar to that of 2016. Joe Biden has pledged to ensure that "we have the strongest military in the world," promising to "make the investments necessary to equip our troops for the challenges of the next century, not the last one."

In the White House, President Trump is repeating the kind of anti-interventionist head feints that won him votes four years ago against a hawkish Hillary Clinton. In his recent graduation address at West Point, Trump re-cycled applause lines from 2016 about "ending an era of endless wars" as well as America's role as "policeman of the world."

In reality, since Trump took office, there's been no reduction in the US military presence abroad, which last year required a Pentagon budget of nearly $740 billion. As military historian and retired career officer Andrew Bacevich notes , "endless wars persist (and in some cases have even intensified ); the nation's various alliances and its empire of overseas bases remain intact; US troops are still present in something like 140 countries ; Pentagon and national security state spending continues to increase astronomically ."

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When the National Defense Authorization Act for the next fiscal year came before Congress this summer, Senator Bernie Sanders proposed a modest 10 percent reduction in military spending so $70 billion could be re-directed to domestic programs. Representative Barbara Lee introduced a House resolution calling for $350 billion worth of DOD cuts. Neither proposal has gained much traction, even among Democrats on Capitol Hill. Instead, the House Armed Services Committee just voted 56 to 0 to spend $740. 5 billion on the Pentagon in the coming year, prefiguring the outcome of upcoming votes by the full House and Senate.

An Appeal to Conscience

Even if Biden beats Trump in November, efforts to curb US military spending will face continuing bi-partisan resistance. In the never-ending work of building a stronger anti-war movement, Pentagon critics, with military credentials, are invaluable allies. Daniel Sjursen, a 37-year old veteran of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan is one such a critic. Inspired in part by the much-published Bacevich, Sjursen has just written a new book called Patriotic Dissent: America in the Age of Endless War (Heyday Books)

Patriotic Dissent is a short volume, just 141 pages, but it packs the same kind of punch as Howard Zinn's classic 1967 polemic, Vietnam: The Logic of Withdrawal . Like Zinn, who became a popular historian after his service in World War II, Sjursen skillfully debunks the conventional wisdom of the foreign policy establishment, and the military's own current generation of "yes men for another war power hungry president." His appeal to the conscience of fellow soldiers, veterans, and civilians is rooted in the unusual arc of an eighteen-year military career. His powerful voice, political insights, and painful personal reflections offer a timely reminder of how costly, wasteful, and disastrous our post 9/11 wars have been.

Sjursen has the distinction of being a graduate of West Point, an institution that produces few political dissenters. He grew up in a fire-fighter family on working class Staten Island. Even before enrolling at the Academy at age 17, he was no stranger to what he calls "deep-seated toxically masculine patriotism." As a newly commissioned officer in 2005, he was still a "burgeoning neo-conservative and George W. Bush admirer" and definitely not, he reports, any kind of "defeatist liberal, pacifist, or dissenter."

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Sjursen's initial experience in combat -- vividly described in his first book, Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of The Surge (University Press of New England) -- "occurred at the statistical height of sectarian strife" in Iraq.

"The horror, the futility, the farce of that war was the turning point in my life," Sjursen writes in Patriotic Dissent .

When he returned, at age 24, from his "brutal, ghastly deployment" as a platoon leader, he "knew that the war was built on lies, ill-advised, illegal, and immoral." This "unexpected, undesired realization generated profound doubts about the course and nature of the entire American enterprise in the Greater Middle East -- what was then unapologetically labeled the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT)."

A Professional Soldier

By the time Sjursen landed in Kandahar Province, Afghanistan, in early 2011, he had been promoted to captain but "no longer believed in anything we were doing."

He was, he confesses, "simply a professional soldier -- a mercenary, really -- on a mandatory mission I couldn't avoid. Three more of my soldiers died, thirty-plus were wounded, including a triple amputee, and another over-dosed on pain meds after our return."

Despite his disillusionment, Sjursen had long dreamed of returning to West Point to teach history. He applied for and won that highly competitive assignment, which meant the Army had to send him to grad school first. He ended up getting credentialed, while living out of uniform, in the "People's Republic of Lawrence, Kansas, a progressive oasis in an intolerant, militarist sea of Republican red." During his studies at the state university, Sjursen found an intellectual framework for his "own doubts about and opposition to US foreign policy." He completed his first book, Ghost Riders , which combines personal memoir with counter-insurgency critique. Amazingly enough, it was published in 2015, while he was still on active duty, but with "almost no blowback" from superior officers.

Before retiring as a major four years later, Sjursen pushed the envelope further, by writing more than 100 critical articles for TomDispatch and other civilian publications. He was no longer at West Point so that body of work triggered "a grueling, stressful, and scary four-month investigation"by the brass at Fort Leavenworth, during which the author was subjected to "a non-publication order." At risk were his career, military pension, and benefits. He ended up receiving only a verbal admonishment for violating a Pentagon rule against publishing words "contemptuous of the President of the United States." His "PTSD and co-occurring diagnoses" helped him qualify for a medical retirement last year.

Sjursen has now traded his "identity as a soldier -- the only identity I've known in my adult life -- for that of an anti-war, anti-imperialist, social justice crusader," albeit one who did not attend his first protest rally until he was thirty-two years old. With several left-leaning comrades, he started Fortress on A Hill, a lively podcast about military affairs and veterans' issues. He's a frequent, funny, and always well-informed guest on progressive radio and cable-TV shows, as well as a contributing editor at Antiwar.com , and a contributor to a host of mainstream liberal publications. This year, the Lannan Foundation made him a cultural freedom fellow.

In Patriotic Dissent , Sjursen not only recounts his own personal trajectory from military service to peace activism. He shows how that intellectual journey has been informed by reading and thinking about US history, the relationship between civil society and military culture, the meaning of patriotism, and the price of dissent.

One historical figure he admires is Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, the recipient of two Medals of Honor for service between 1898 and 1931. Following his retirement, Butler sided with the poor and working-class veterans who marched on Washington to demand World War I bonus payments. And he wrote a best-selling Depression-era memoir, which famously declared that "war is just a racket" and lamented his own past role as "a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers."

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Sjursen contrasts Butler's anti-interventionist whistle-blowing, nearly a century ago, with the silence of high-ranking veterans today after "nineteen years of ill-advised, remarkably unsuccessful American wars." Among friends and former West Point classmates, he knows many still serving who "obediently resign themselves to continued combat deployments" because they long ago "stopped asking questions about their own role in perpetuating and enabling a counter-productive, inertia-driven warfare state."

Sjursen looks instead to small left-leaning groups like Veterans for Peace and About Face: Veterans Against the War (formerly Iraq Veterans Against the War), and Bring Our Troops Home. US, a network of veterans influenced by the libertarian right. Each in, its own way, seeks to "reframe dissent, against empire and endless war, as the truest form of patriotism." But actually taming the military-industrial complex will require "big-tent, intersectional action from civilian and soldier alike," on a much larger scale. One obstacle to that, he believes, is the societal divide between the "vast majority of citizens who have chosen not to serve" in the military and the "one percent of their fellow citizens on active duty," who then become part of "an increasingly insular, disconnected, and sometimes sententious post-9/11 veteran community."

Not many on the left favor a return to conscription.

But Sjursen makes it clear there's been a downside to the U.S. replacing "citizen soldiering" with "a tiny professional warrior caste," created in response to draft-driven dissent against the Vietnam War, inside and outside the military. As he observes:

"Nothing so motivates a young adult to follow foreign policy, to weigh the advisability or morality of an ongoing war as the possibility of having to put 'skin in the game.' Without at least the potential requirement to serve in the military and in one of America's now countless wars, an entire generation -- or really two, since President Nixon ended the draft in 1973–has had the luxury of ignoring the ills of U.S. foreign policy, to distance themselves from its reality ."

At a time when the U.S. "desperately needs a massive, public, empowered anti-war and anti-imperial wave" sweeping over the country, we have instead a "civil-military" gap that, Sjursen believes, has "stifled antiwar and anti-imperial dissent and seemingly will continue to do so." That's why his own mission is to find more "socially conscious veterans of these endless, fruitless wars" who are willing to "step up and form a vanguard of sorts for revitalized patriotic dissent." Readers of Sjursen's book, whether new recruits to that vanguard or longtime peace activists, will find Patriotic Dissent to be an invaluable educational tool. It should be required reading in progressive study groups, high school and college history classes, and book clubs across the country . Let's hope that the author's willingness to take personal risks, re-think his view of the world, and then work to change it will inspire many others, in uniform and out.

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Justus_Americans , 59 minutes ago

Do we need to be in 160 countries with our military and can we afford it?

Cat Daddy , 1 hour ago

I am all for bringing the troops home except for this one unnerving truth; nature abhors a vacuum, specifically, when we pull out, China moves in. A world dominated by the CCP will be a dangerous place to be. When we leave, we will need to make sure our bases are safely in the hands of our friends.

dogbert8 , 1 hour ago

War is effectively the way the U.S. has done business since the Spanish American War, our first imperial conquests. War is how we ensure big business has the materials and markets they demand in return for their support of political parties and candidates. War is the only area left with opportunities for growth and profit. Don't think for a minute that TPTB will ever let us stop waging war to get what we (they) want.

TheLastMan , 2 hours ago

If you are new to zh all you need to do is study PNAC and the related nature of all parties to understand the criminality of USA militarization and for whose benefit it serves

Anonymous IX , 2 hours ago

I have written many times on this platform the exact same sentiments.

I am most disheartened by the COVID + Antifa/BLM Riots because of the facts this author presents.

We are distracted with emotional and highly volatile MASSIVELY PROPAGANDIZED stories by MSM (I don't watch) while the real problem in the world is as the author describes above.

We are war-mongering nation who needs to bring our troops home and disband over half of our overseas installations and bases.

We have no right to levy economic sanctions to impoverish, sicken, and weaken the citizens of Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, or anywhere else.

Yet, we run around arguing about masks and who can go into a restaurant or toppling statutes and throwing mortar-type fireworks at federal officers. This is what we do instead of facing a real problem which is that we are war-mongering nation with no moral/ethical conscience. These scraggily bearded white Antifas need to WTFU and realize who their true enemy.

Oh, wait. They work for the true enemy! Get it?

Max21c , 1 hour ago

We have no right to levy economic sanctions to impoverish, sicken, and weaken the citizens of Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, or anywhere else.

I don't agree with the economic sanctions nonsense thing as they seem to be more of a crutch for people that are not any good at planning, strategy, analytical thinking, critical thinking, strategic thinking, and lack much in the way of talent or creativity or intellectual acumen or intellectual skills...I believe there's around just shy of 10k economic sanctions by Washington...

But the USA does have the right to receive or refuse to receive foreign Ambassadors and Consuls and to recognize or not recognize other nations governments thus it does have some degrees of the right to not trade or engage in commerce with other nations to a certain extent... per imports and exports... et cetera... though it's not necessarily an absolute right or power

IronForge , 2 hours ago

Sjursen may admire General Butler; but he doesn't seem to know that several of the General's Descendants Served in the US Military.

Sjursen isn't Butler. The General Prevented a Coup in his Time.

The USA are a Hegemony whose KleptOchlarchs overtook the Original Constitutional Republic.

PetroUSD, MIC, Corporate Expansion-Conquest, AgriGMO, and Pharma Interests Span the Globe.

Wars are Rackets; and Societies to Nation-States have waged them over Real Estate, Natural Resources, Trade Routes, Industrial Capacity, Slavery, Suppresive Spite, Religious/Ideological Zeal, Economic Preservation, and Profiteering Greed.

YET, Militaries are still formed by Nation-States to Survive and for Some - Thrive above such Competitive Existenstential Threats.

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The Hegemony are running up against New Shifts in Global Power, Systems, and Influences; and are about to Lose their Unilateral Advantages. The Hegemon themselves may suffer Societal Collapses Within.

Sjursen should read up on Chalmers Johnson. Instead of trying to Coordinate Ineffective Peace Demonstrations, the Entire Voting/Political Contribution/Candidacy Schemes should be Separated from the Oligarchy of Plutocrats and Corporate/Political KleptOchlarchs.

Without Bringing the Votes back to the Collective Hands of Citizenry Interests First and Foremost, the Republic are Forever Conquered; and the Ethical may have to resort to Emigration and/or Secession.

Ink Pusher , 2 hours ago

Nobody rides for free,there's always a cost and those who can't pay in bullion will often pay in bodily fluids of one form or another.

Profiteers that create warfare for profit are simply parasitical criminals and should not be considered a "special breed" when weighed upon the Scales of Justice.

gzorp , 2 hours ago

Read 'Starship Troopers' by Robert A Heinlein (1959) pay especial attention to the "History and Moral Philosophy" courses... that's where his predictions for the future course of 'America's' future appear.... rather accurately. Heinlein was a 1930's graduate of Annapolis (Navy for you dindus and nohabs).....

A DUDE , 2 hours ago

t's not just the war machine but the entire system, the corporatocracy, of which the MIC is a part. And there is no way to change the system from within the system because whatever is anti-establishment becomes absorbed and neutered and part of the system.

So why would anyone vote is my question? 11. Trump and Biden Are Far Right of Center and Running to Offenbach Nearly Every Day

sbin , 2 hours ago

Tulsi Gabbard ran on anti interventionism foreign policy.

Look how fast the DNC disappeared her.

Of course destroying Kamala Harris in a debate and going after the ancient evil Hitlery sealed her fate.

BarkingWolf , 2 hours ago

In reality, since Trump took office, there's been no reduction in the US military presence abroad, which last year required a Pentagon budget of nearly $740 billion. As military historian and retired career officer Andrew Bacevich notes , "endless wars persist (and in some cases have even intensified ); the nation's various alliances and its empire of overseas bases remain intact; US troops are still present in something like 140 countries ; Pentagon and national security state spending continues to increase astronomically ."

Now wait just a minute there mister, that sounds like criticism of the Donald John PBUH PBUH PBUH ... you can't do that ... the cult followers will call you a leftist and a commie if you point out stuff like that even if it is objectively true! That's strike one, punk.

An Appeal to Conscience

Even if Biden beats Trump in November, efforts to curb US military spending will face continuing bi-partisan resistance.

November doesn't have anything to do with anything really. The appeal to conscience is wasted. The appeal would be better spent on removing the political class that is on the AIPAC dole and have dual citizenship in a foreign country in the ME while pretending to serve America while they are members of Congress. That's only the tip of the spear ... and that is a nonstarter from the get go.

Sjursen skillfully debunks the conventional wisdom of the foreign policy establishment, and the military's own current generation of "yes men for another war power hungry president."


I don't think Trump is necessarily a war power hungry president. While it is true that we have not withdrawn from Syria and basically stole their oil as Trump has repeated promised he would do, it is also true that Trump has yet to deliver Israels war with Iran and in fact had called back an invasion of Iran ten minutes before a flotilla of US warships was about to set sail to ignite such an invasion leaving Tel Aviv not only aggrieved, but angry as well.

Sjursen has now traded his "identity as a soldier -- the only identity I've known in my adult life -- for that of an anti-war, anti-imperialist, social justice crusader," albeit one who did not attend his first protest rally until he was thirty-two years old. With several left-leaning comrades ...

Okay, this is where you are starting to lose me .... i't like listening to a concert and suddenly the music is hitting sour notes that are off key, off tempo, and don't seem to fit somehow.

Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, the recipient of two Medals of Honor for service between 1898 and 1931. Following his retirement, Butler sided with the poor and working-class veterans who marched on Washington to demand World War I bonus payments. And he wrote a best-selling Depression-era memoir, which famously declared that "war is just a racket" and lamented his own past role as "a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers."

"On July 28, 1932, at the command of Gen. Douglas MacArthur, they marched down Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol to launch an attack on World War I veterans. " https://www.stripes.com/news/us/the-veterans-were-desperate-gen-macarthur-ordered-us-troops-to-attack-them-1.480665

Butler was correct, war especially nowadays, is a racket that makes rich people who never seem to get their hands dirty, even richer. As one grunt put it long ago, "it's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it."

That "somebody" is going to be the kids of the little people (the real high-class muscle-men ) who are hated by their political class overlords even as the political class are worshipped as gods.

Sjursen looks instead to small left-leaning groups like Veterans for Peace and About Face: Veterans Against the War (formerly Iraq Veterans Against the War), and Bring Our Troops Home. US, a network of veterans influenced by the libertarian right.

The problem here is that the so-called "left" brand has always been about war and the capitalism of death.

The Democrat party is really the group that started the American civil war for instance, they are the ones behind legacy of Eugenists like Margaret Sanger who was a card carrying Socialist who founded the child murder mill known today as Planned Parenthood that sadly still exists under Trump but has turned into the industrialized slaughter of children ...even after birth so that their organs can be "harvested" for profit.

Sjursen's affinity for "the left" as saintly purveyors of peace, goodness, love, and life strikes me as rather disingenuous. Then he seems to argue if I read the analysis correctly that conscription will somehow be the panacea for the insatiable appetite for war?

One false flag such as The Gulf of Tonkin or 911 or even Perl Harbor or the Sinking of the Lusitania or the assassination of an Arch Duke ... is all that is really needed to arouse the unbridled hoards to march off to battle with almost erotic enthusiasm -the political class KNOWS IT!

Amendment X , 2 hours ago

And don't forget President Wilson (D) who was re-elected on the platform "He kept us out of the war" only to drag U.S. into the hopeless European Monarchary driven WWI.

11b40 , 1 hour ago

Yo! Low class muscle man here, and I have to agree with bringing back the draft. It should never have been eliminated, and is the root of the golbalists abiity to keep us in Afghanistan, and other parts of the ME, for going on 20 years.

Skin in the game. It means literally everything. As noted we now have 2 generations of men who never had to give much thought at all to what's happening around the world, and how America is involved....and look at the results. It would be a much different situation today if all those 18 year olds had to face the draft board with an unforgiving lottery.

Yes, one false falg can whip up the country to a war time fever pitch, but unless there is a real, serious threat, the fever cannot be maintained. The 1969 draft lottery caught me when I stayed out the first semester of my senior year. Didn't want to go, but accepted my fate and did the best job I could to stay alive and keep those around me as safe as possible. In 1966, I was in favor of the war, and was about to go Green Beret on the buddy system. We were going to grease gooks with all the enthusiasm of John Wayne. My old man, an artillery 1st Sgt at the time in Germany, talked me out of it. More like get your *** on a plane back to the States and into college, befroe i kick it up around your shouders. A WW2 & Korea vet, he told me then it was the wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

The point is, when kids are getting drafted, Mom's, Dad's, and everyone else concerned with the safety of their friends & relatives, start paying attention and asking hard questions of politicians. Using Afghanistan as an example, we would have been on the way out by the 2004 election cycle, or at max before the next one in 2008. That was 12 years ago, and we are still there.

I addition, the reason we went would have been more closely examined, and there may have been a real investigtion into 9/11. Plus, I am convinced that serving your country makes for a better all around citizen, and God knows, we need better citizens.

Cassandra.Hermes , 2 hours ago

Trump and Pompeo started new cold war with China, but have no way to back up their threats and win it!! When i was in Kosovo peace corps i heard so many stories from Albanian who were blamed to be Russian or American spy because of double cold war against Albania. Trump and Pompeo just gave excuse to Xi to blame anyone who protest as American spy. BBC were showing China's broadcast of the protests in Oregon to Hong Kong with subtitle "Do you really want American democracy?", LMFAO

Max21c , 2 hours ago

Joe Biden has pledged to ensure that "we have the strongest military in the world," promising to "make the investments necessary to equip our troops for the challenges of the next century, not the last one."

The United States shall continue to have a weak military until it starts to fix its foreign policy and diplomacy. You cannot have the strongest military in the world if you lack a good foreign policy and good diplomacy. Brains are a lot more important than battleships, battalions, bullets, barrels, or bombs. Get a frickin' clue you friggin' Washington morons.

Washington is weak because they are dumb. Blind, deaf, and dumb.

Heroic Couplet , 2 hours ago

Too little, too late. Great ad for a book that will be forgotten in a week. Read Bolton's book. The minute Trump tries to reduce troops, Bolton is right there, saying "No, we can't move troops to the perimeter. No, we can't move troops from barracks to tents at the perimeter." Who needs AI?

Erik Prince wrote 3.5 years ago that 4th gen warfare consists of cyberwarfare and bio-weapons. The US military is fooked. There's probably an interesting book to be researched: How do Republicans feel about contracting COVID-19 after listening to Trump fumble?

ChecksandBalances , 3 hours ago

Blame the voters. Run on a platform to reduce military and police spending. See how many of those lose. Probably all of them. You have to stop feeding the beast. This is a slogan Trump correctly said but as usual didn't actually mean. We should cut all military and police spending by 1/2 and then take the remaining money and build a smarter, more efficient military and police force.

Max21c , 3 hours ago

It's not just the "Deep State." It's Washingtonians overall. It's Deep Crazy. They're all Deep Crazy! They're nuts. And the rare exceptions that may know better and have enough common sense to know its wrong to sick the secret police on innocent American civilians aren't going to say anything or do anything to stop it. The few that know better in foreign policy aren't going to say anything or do anything against the new Cold Wars on the Eastern Front against China or on the Western Front against Russia since they're not willing to go up against the Regime. So the Regimists know they have carte blanche to persecute or terrorize or go after any that stand in their way. This is how tyrannies and police states operate. It's the nature of the beast. At a minimum they brow beat people into submission. People don't want to stick their neck out and risk going up against the Regime and risk losing to the Regime, its secret police, and the powers that be. They shy away from anything that would bring the Regime and its secret police and its radicals, extremists, fanatics, and zealots their way.

nonkjo , 4 hours ago

It's okay to be against "forever war" and still not have to be a progressive douchbag.

Sjursen is an unprincipled ******** artist. He leaves Iraq disillusioned as a lieutenant but sticks around long enough for them to pay for his grad school and give him some sweet "resume building" experiences that he can stand on to sell books? FYI, from commissioning time as a second lieutenant to promotion to captain is 3 years...that means Sjusen was so disillusioned that he decided to stick around for 12 more years which is about 9 years longer than he actually needed to as an Academy grad (he only had to serve 6 unless he elected to go to grad school).

The bottom line is Sjusen capitalizes on people not knowing how the military works. That is, that his own self-interest far outweighs his the principles he espouses. Typical leftist hypoctite.

Max21c , 4 hours ago

...the U.S. "desperately needs a massive, public, empowered anti-war and anti-imperial wave ..."

Perhaps the USA just needs a better foreign policy. Though we all know that's not going to happen with the flaky screwballs of Washington and the flaky screwballs in the Pentagon, CIA, State Department, foreign policy establishment, think tanks et cetera.

Minor technical point: the time for the "anti-imperial wave" was before Washingtonians destroyed much of the world and created their strategic blunders and disastrous foreign policy. You folks all went along with this nonsense and now you have your quagmires, forever wars, and numerous trouble spots that have popped up here and there along the way to boot.

Pottery barn rule: you broke it and you own it and it's yours...Ma'am please pay at the register on the way out...Sorry Ma'am there's no more free gluing...though the gluing specialist may be in on the third Thursday this month though it's usually the second Tuesday each month...

Contemporaneously, in the same vein the American public has been brainwashed into going along with the new Cold Wars on the Western Front against Moscow and the even newer Cold War on the Eastern Front against Beijing. It's like P.T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute," and you fools in the American public just keep buying right in to the brainwashing. They're now successfully indoctrinating you into buying into their new Cold Wars with Russia and China. The Cold War on the Eastern Front versus Peking is more getting more fanciful attentions at the moment and the Cold War on the Western Front has temporarily been relegated to the back burner but they'll move the Western Front Cold War from simmer to boil over whenever it suits their needs. It's just a rendition of the Oceania has always been at war with East Asia and Eurasia is our friend are just gameplays right out of George Orwell's 1984.

Most of the quagmires can be fixed to a certain extent by applying some cement and engineering to the quicksand and many of the trouble spots can become more settled and less unstable if not stable in some instances. Even some of the more serious strategic problems like the South China Sea, North Korean nuclear weapons development, and potential Iranian nuclear weapons development can still be resolved through peaceful strategies and solutions.

In re sum, while I won't disparage a peace movement I do not believe it is either necessary nor proper simply because you will not solve anything through a peace movement. The sine qua non or quintessential element is simply to end one of these wars successfully through a peaceful diplomatic solution or solve one of these serious foreign policy problems through diplomacy which is something that hasn't been the norm since the downfall of the Berlin Wall, is no longer in favor, and which is the necessary element to prove that peace can be achieved through strategy and diplomacy and thereby change the course of the country's future.

In foreign affairs the foreign policy establishment has its pattern of behavior and it is that pattern of behavior that has to be changed. It's the mindset of the Washingtonians & elites that has to be changed. Just taking to the streets won't really change their ways or their beliefs for any significant part of the duration. They may pay lip service to peace & diplomacy but it won't win out in their minds in the long run. They are so warped in their views and beliefs that it'll have little or no effect over the long haul. As soon as the protests dissipate they'll be right back at it, back to their bad ways and bad behavior.

Son of Captain Nemo , 4 hours ago

For the past 19 years... And as Anti-War as you will ever get!...

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Remind 0range $hit $tain ( https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/14/trump-im-reopening-911-investigation/ ) that if he makes this a campaign pledge and an issue for debate he maybe can avoid a war crimes tribunal given how much has already been spent on the war machine ( https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/944-trillion-reasons-why-fed-quietly-bailing-out-hedge-funds )!

Hatterasjohn , 4 hours ago

Was it George Carlin that said " if voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it " ? The only way to stop these forever wars is for people to stop joining the military. Parents should teach their children that joining the military and trotting off to some country to fight a war for the elite is not being patriotic . I was in the military from 1964 -1968. When Lyndon Johnson became president he drug out the Vietnam war as long as he could. Oh ! Lady Byrd Johnson bought Decon Company [ rat poison ] when most people never heard of it. Johnson bought this rat poison , government paid for ,at an inflated price . Sent ship loads of it to Vietnam .Never mind all the Americans and so called enemy killed.. Jane Fonda , Hanoi Jane , was really a hero who helped save countless lives by helping to end the war. Tommy and **** Smothers , Smother Brothers , spoke out against the war . Our government had them black balled from TV. Our government is probably as corrupt as any other country.

No-Go zone , 5 hours ago

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/top-us-general-says-american-troops-should-be-ready-die-israel

cowboyted , 7 hours ago

A piece of irony, one of our greatest generals was Dwight Eisenhower, the Allied Supreme Commander in WWII and two term president. He kept the peace for almost 10 years and warned Americans to beware of the "military-industrial complex." Most military men never want war, they just make sure they are ready if it comes. We have had the military industrial complex for way too long, it needs to be reduced and we need more generals to run for president, Gen. Flynn maybe? I'll also take Schwartzkoff.

cowboyted , 7 hours ago

The U.S. should only use our military if we are attacked, period. Otherwise, as Jefferson astutely stated, a standing army is a threat to democracy.

captain noob , 7 hours ago

Capitalism has no morals

Profit is the driving force of every single thing

cowboyted , 7 hours ago

The U.S. should only use our military if we are attacked, period. Otherwise, as Jefferson astutely stated, a standing army is a threat to democracy.

Chief Joesph , 7 hours ago

After what General Smedley Butler had to say and warned us about, here we are, 90 years later, doing the very same thing. Goes to show how utterly dumb, unprogressive, sheepish, and Medieval Americans really are. And you thought this is what makes America Great????

cowboyted , 8 hours ago

The U.S. Constitution provides for a "national defense." Yet, the last time we were attacked by a foreign nation was on Dec. 7, 1941 in which, the Congress declared war on Japan. Yet, in the past 100 years our country's leaders have convinced Americans that we can wage war if the issue concerns our "national INTEREST." This is wrong and needs to be deleted and replaced with our Constitution's language. Also, Congress is the ONLY Constitutional authority to declare war, not the executive branch. Too many countries, including the U.S., spend too much money preparing for war on levels of destruction that are unnecessary. We must attain a new paradigm with leading countries to achieve a mutual understanding that the people of the world are better off with jobs, food, families, peace, and a chance at a better life, filled with hope, faith, and flourishing communities. Things have to change.

transcendent_wannabe , 8 hours ago

I have to agree in sentiment with the author, but the reality of humans on earth almost demands constant war, it is the price we pay for the modern city lifestyle. There are various reasons.

1. Ever since WW1, the country has become citified, and the old peaceful country farm life was replaced with the rat race of industrial production. Without war, there is no need for the level of industrial production required to give full employment to the overpopulated cities. People will scream for war and jingoism when they have no city jobs. How do you deal with that? Sure, War is a Racket, but so far a necessary racket.

2. Every 20 years the military needs a real shooting war to battle test its upcoming soldiers and new equipment. Now the battles are against insurgencies... door-to-door in cities and ghettos, and new tactics need to be field tested. If the military goes more than 20 years without a real shooting war, they lose the real men, the sargeant majors, who just become fat pot bellied desk personel without the adrenaline of a real fight.

3. Humans inately like to fight. Even children, boys wrestle, girls taunt one another. There is no way discovered yet to keep people from turning violent in their attempts to steal what others have, or to gain dominance thru physical intimidation. Without war, gangs will form and fight over territorial boundaries. There is no escaping it.

4. Earth is where the battle field is, Battlefield Earth. There is no fighting allowed in heaven, so Earth is where souls come to fight. Nobody on earth likes it, but fighting and war is here to stay, and you should really use this life to find out how to transcend earth and get to a place where war is not needed or allowed, like heaven or Valhalla.

Tortuga , 8 hours ago

So. He thinks the crooked, grifting, regressive hate US murdering dim pustules aren't the warmongering, globalist, hate US, crooked, grifting, murdering republicrats. What a mo ron.

HenryJonesJr , 8 hours ago

Real conservatives were always against foreign intervention. It was the Left that embraced foreign wars (Wilson / Roosevelt / Truman / Johnson).

messystateofaffairs , 8 hours ago

From my perspective being a professional goon to serve the greater glory of international criminals, is, aside from having to avoid the mirror, way too much hard and dangerous work for the money. As a civilian of a society run by criminals on criminal imperialist principles, I have no literal PTSD type of skin in that filthy game, but like most citizens, knowing and unknowing, I do swim in that sewer everyday, doing my best to avoid bumping into the larger turds. My "patriotism" lies where the turds are fewest, anywhere in the world that might be.

bh2 , 8 hours ago

The threat to US interests is not in the ME (apart from Israel). It's in the Pacific.

NATO was never intended to be a defense arrangement perpetually funded by the US. Once stood up and post-war economies in Europe were restored, it was supposed to be a European defense shield with the US as ultimate backup. Not as a sugar-daddy for wealthy nations. Now that Russia is no longer situated to attack through the Fulda Gap, NATO is a grotesque expression of Parkinson's Law writ large.

China is a real threat to US interests. That's obvious simply by consulting a map. Military assets committed to engagement in theaters that no longer seriously matter is feckless and spendthrift. Particularly when Americans are put in harm's way with no prospect of either winning or leaving.

Worse yet is the accelerating prospect of being drawn into conflict in the South China Sea because fewer than decisive US and allied assets are deployed there.

While nations are now responding to that threat (including Japan, who are re-arming), China must realize a successful Taiwan invasion faces steadily diminishing prospects. They must act soon or give up the opportunity. Moreover, the CCP are loosing face with their own people because of multiple calamities wreaking havoc. The danger of a desperate CCP turning to a hot war to save face is an ever-rising threat. (If Three Gorges Dam fails, that could be the final straw.)

FDR deliberately suckered Japan into attacking the US (but apparently never guessed it would be on Pearl Harbor). It appears modern neo warmongers of all stripes would be delighted if China were tempted into yet another senseless war in the Pacific. And more lives lost on all sides.

While the size of US military and (ineptly named) "intelligence" budgets are vastly out of scale, the short-term cost in money is secondary to risk of long-term cost in blood. Surging the budget may make good sense when guns are all pointing in the wrong direction and political donors don't care as long as it pays well.

Defeating that outrageously wasteful spending is the first battle to be won. Disengaging from stupid, distracting, unwinnable conflicts is an imperative to achieve that goal.

The Judge , 8 hours ago

US. is the real threat to US interests.

DeptOfPsyOps-14527776 , 8 hours ago

An important part of this statue quo is propaganda and in particular neo-con propaganda.

Once it was clear that agitating against the Russian federation had failed, they started agitating against the PRC.

FDR administration wasn't that clever, they just had (((support))). They wanted Imperial Japan unable to strengthen itself against the United Kingdom as it was waging a war against the European Axis, did not realize that the Japanese fleet could reach as far as Hawaii and after Pearl Harbor, believed the West Coast could have been attacked as well.

Hovewer, they likely expected the Japanese to intercept their fleet on the way to the Phillipines after a war between Imperial Japan and the Commonwealth had started.

Salzburg1756 , 8 hours ago

"FDR deliberately suckered Japan into attacking the US (but apparently never guessed it would be on Pearl Harbor)." No, we knew the japs were going to attack Pearl Harbor. We had broken their code. That's why we sent our best battle ships away from Hawaii just before the attack. Most of the ships they sank were old and worthless; our good ships were out at sea.

TheLastMan , 4 hours ago

What constitutes "America's interests"?

the us military is the world community welcome wagon for global multi national Corp chamber of commerce

Do us citizens serve corporations or do corporations serve us citizens?

next ?, who owns / controls corporations?

Alice-the-dog , 8 hours ago

There is a reason why suicide is the leading cause of death among active duty military. They come to realize that what they are doing is perfect male bovine fecal matter. That they are guilty of participating in completely unwarranted death and destruction.

847328_3527 , 9 hours ago

Liberals and "progressives" are traditionally against wars. This new "woke" group of Demorats shows they are NOT liberals or progressives since they support the Establishment War Criminals like Obama and his side kick, demented Biden, and Bloodthirsty Clinton.

[Jul 23, 2020] Iran's top security official: Harsher revenge awaits perpetrators of Gen. Soleimani's assassination

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News / Politics Iran's top security official: Harsher revenge awaits perpetrators of Gen. Soleimani's assassination Wednesday, 22 July 2020 4:29 PM [ Last Update: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 4:29 PM ]

Members of the Iraqi honor guard walk past a huge portrait of Iran's late top general Qassem Soleimani (L) and Iraqi commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, both killed in a US drone strike near Baghdad airport last month, during a memorial service held in Baghdad's high-security Green Zone on February 11, 2020. (Photo by AFP)

Iran's top security official says harsher revenge awaits the perpetrators of the attack that killed senior Iranian anti-terrorism commander Lieutenant General Qassem Soleimani and his companions.

In a post on his Twitter page on Wednesday, Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council Ali Shamkhani said that US President Donald Trump had admitted that the American, upon his direct order, committed the crime of assassinating General Soleimani, the commander of the Quds Force of Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC), and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the second-in-command of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) counter-terrorism force, who were two prominent figures of the anti-terrorism campaign.

"The two Iranian and Iraqi nations are avengers of blood of these martyrs and will not rest until they punish the perpetrators," read part of the tweet.

"Harsher revenge is one the way," it concluded.

The two commanders and a number of their companions were assassinated in a US airstrike near Baghdad airport on January 3, as General Soleimani was on an official visit to the Iraqi capital.

Both commanders were extremely popular because of the key role they played in eliminating the US-sponsored Daesh terrorist group in the region, particularly in Iraq and Syria.

UN experts calls US drone attack on Gen. Soleimani 'unlawful' killing A senior UN human rights investigator says the United States' assassination of top Iranian commander Lieutenant General Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad was an "unlawful" killing in violation of the international law.

In retaliation for the attack, the IRGC fired volleys of ballistic missiles a US base in Iraq on January 8. According to the US Defense Department, more than 100 American forces suffered "traumatic brain injuries" during the counterstrike. The IRGC, however, says Washington uses the term to mask the number of the Americans, who perished during the retaliation.

Iran has also issued an arrest warrant and asked Interpol for help in detaining Trump, who ordered the assassination, and several other US military and political leaders behind the strike.

Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei said on Tuesday Iran will never forget Washington's assassination of General Soleimani and will definitely deliver a "counterblow" to the United States.

Leader: Iran to deal US 'counterblow' for Gen. Soleimani's assassination Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei meets with visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi in Tehran.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran will never forget this issue and will definitely deal the counterblow to the Americans," Ayatollah Khamenei said in a meeting with visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi in Tehran.

"They killed your guest at your own home and unequivocally admitted the atrocity. This is no small matter," Ayatollah Khamenei told the Iraqi premier.

A UN special rapporteur says has condemned the US assassination and said Washington has put the world at unprecedented peril with its murder of Iran's top anti-terror commander.

UN expert raps US for arbitrary drone attack that killed Gen. Soleimani A UN special rapporteur slams the US for refusing to take responsibility for the assassination of General Soleimani in violation of international law.

Agnes Callamard, UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, has also warned that it is high time the international community broke its silence on Washington's drone-powered unlawful killings.


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[Jul 20, 2020] Ron Paul Exposes Big Holes In The COVID 'Spike' Narrative -

Jul 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Ron Paul Exposes Big Holes In The COVID 'Spike' Narrative 07/20/2020

Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

Motorcycle accidents ruled Covid deaths? In the rush to paint Florida as the epicenter of the "second wave" of the coronavirus outbreak, government officials and their allies in the mainstream media have stooped to ridiculous depths to maximize the death count. A television station this weekend looked into two highly unusual Covid deaths among victims in their 20s, and when they asked about co-morbidities they were told one victim had none, because his Covid death came in the form of a fatal motorcycle accident.

Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. In fact the "spike" that has dominated the mainstream for the last couple of weeks is full of examples of such trickery.

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Washington state last week revised its Covid death numbers downward when it was revealed that anyone who passed away for any reason whatsoever who also had coronavirus was listed as a "Covid-19 death" even if the cause of death had nothing to do with Covid-19.

In South Carolina, the state health agency admitted that the "spike" in Covid deaths was only the result of delayed reporting of suspected Covid deaths.

An analysis of reported daily Covid deaths last week compared to actual day-of-death in Houston revealed that the recent "spike" consisted largely of deaths that occurred in April through June. Why delay reporting until now?

We do know that based on this "spike" the Democrat mayor of Houston cancelled the convention of the Texas Republican Party. Mission accomplished?

Doesn't it seem suspicious that so many states have experienced "delayed" reporting of deaths until Fauci and his gang of "experts" announced that we are in a new nightmare scenario?

Last week in Florida – which is perhaps not coincidentally the location of the Republican Party's national convention – another scandal emerged when hundreds of Covid test centers reported 100 percent positive results. Obviously this would paint a far grimmer picture of the resurgence of the virus. Orlando Health, for example, reported a positivity rate of 98 percent – a shocking level – but a further investigation revealed a true positivity rate of only 9.4 percent. Those "anomalies" were repeated throughout the state.

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"Cases" once meant individuals who displayed sufficient symptoms to be treated in medical facilities. But when the scaremongers needed a "second wave" they began reporting any positive test result as a "Covid case." No wonder we have a "spike."

Politics demands that politicians be seen doing "something" rather than nothing, even if that something is more harmful than doing nothing at all. That is why Washington is so addicted to sanctions.

The same has been true especially in Republican-controlled states in the US in response to the coronavirus. Faced with a virus that has killed about one-third as many people as the normal, seasonal flu virus in 2018, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has endorsed a partial shutdown of the economy resulting in millions tossed into the despair of unemployment. Then he arbitrarily shut down bars because massively increased testing showed more people have been exposed to the virus. And he mandated that people wear face masks. Neither shutting down bars (instead of restaurants or Walmarts) nor forcing people to wear masks will have any effect on the progression of the virus through society. But at least he looks like he's doing "something."

We are facing the greatest assault on our civil liberties in our lifetimes. The virus is real, but the government reaction is political and totalitarian. As it falls apart, will more Americans start fighting for their liberty?

[Jul 14, 2020] Though government infiltrators undoubtedly helped to fragment Occupy, most protesters gleefully went along with their own gelding, because, to them, it was never about rallying the 99% towards common goals, as they vaguely claimed, but airing minority grievances.

The question is : what is the role of FBI in organizing and driving the current protests, especially the action of antifa?
Notable quotes:
"... It would be fitting justice for AntiFa to go the way the Red Guards ..."
"... Not quite nine years later, almost no one is talking about banksters, incredibly, although the country has been plunged into a much worse economic hell Broke and enraged, mobs swarm American streets, but instead of targeting those who are imploding their society, they pull down statues, break windows, deface walls, loot stores and attack cops or each other. ..."
"... Pelosi said even if DC burns down to the ground, the US will be 100% for Israel. Why not include Wall Street, the money bag of Jewish Power? ..."
"... In a way, what we are seeing is the Japanization of White America. This is why the US should not have dropped the nukes and forced unconditional surrender. They should have allowed Japan to surrender with honor. Make Japan give up its empire and military ambitions but let the Japanese keep their culture and sacred myths. But the US forced unconditional surrender, turned the Emperor into Tokyo Shoeshine boy, occupied Japan(and still has bases there), used Japanese women as whores & mistresses, and turned Japanese men into castrated cuck-wussies. Sound familiar? ..."
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Though government infiltrators undoubtedly helped to fragment Occupy, most protesters gleefully went along with their own gelding, because, to them, it was never about rallying the 99% towards common goals, as they vaguely claimed, but airing minority grievances. Most importantly, they could look cool doing it.

With visual evidence uploaded onto FaceBook, Tumblr and Instagram, etc., soy boys from strip malled subdivisions could accrue street cred.

Since "Occupy Everything, Demand Nothing " became Occupy's rallying cry, it achieved literally nothing, predictably. A month after all tents were cleared from Zuccotti Park, Time Magazine anointed "The Protester" as Person Of The Year, so for being symbolically homeless for two months, the sans cazzo got a participation lollipop from the bossman.

Since then, unscathed and smirking Wall Street has only amped up its state-of-the-art shell games, punctuated by bailouts. What's left of the country's wealth keeps flowing to the top.

Although Occupy Wall Street exposed widespread discontent, it was deftly tamed by the state, without addressing any of the issues raised. Worsened economic malaise is papered over with fake news and statistics. Unable to afford even an efficiency, the young and not so young resignedly or bitterly move back home. I'm sure you know a few.

Beneath each basement, there's another, even darker and danker, Americans kept discovering, so they just had to suck it up and simmer on, when not overdosing on opioids. It's the new normal.

Occupy Wall Street protesters were mostly under-35-year-old whites, with at least some college education. Now, the same demographic is back on the streets, but instead of chanting for economic justice and representing, at least in theory, the 99%, they're fighting Fascism and racism. With their inclusive definitions of such sins, however, they're warring against most of the country.

... ... ...

On August 14th, 2018, CNN reeducated us, "There is no national antifa group. It is mostly made up of people who are far left of center, who make it their mission to battle Fascists, racists and alt right extremists." It's a grassroot, homegrown resistance to hate, that's all. "Behind the masks are people from all walks of life, artist, mom, ordinary American, as well as anarchist." Four most gentle faces were shown.

On June 16th, 2020, CNN reemphasized that antifa was a belief system that unified all anti-Fascists, whatever their color, age or background, so how could you be against it, unless you're a Fascist?! A burly, genial black man explained, "It basically means that you are against Fascism. If you are against Fascism, then you are antifa."

In a BLACK LIVES MATTER muscle-T, a white wuss added, "Antifa is not a group. It's not like everybody sits in, like, some basement, talking about how to overthrow the Fascist regime. I walked around picking up trash yesterday, behind the protesters. That's what antifa looks like."

Burly black guy, "White people have to be involved in fighting racism, in fighting white supremacy [ ] But if you are a white ally, remember that you still have to follow the lead of people of color."

The New York Times and Washington Post have also written sympathetically about antifa. When the corporate media give you a positive spin, it must mean you're serving the establishment. Mussolini had his Blackshirts, Hitler his Brownshirts and Mao his Red Guards. America's rulers have antifa.

Far from threatening the 1%, antifa sows dissension among the 99%. Ignoring Wall Street, antifa trashes one Main Street after another.

Zealously branding its enemies as racist or Fascist, antifa generates more racism and Fascism.

Slammed by the economic crisis of 2008, Americans started to look more closely at Wall Street, Goldman Sachs and the Federal Reserve , etc., and they were enlightened by people like Ron Paul and Matt Taibbi.

In Rolling Stone, Taibbi wrote, "The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money."

Banksters were scrutinized with increasing intensity. It was in this climate that Occupy Wall Street was born.

Not quite nine years later, almost no one is talking about banksters, incredibly, although the country has been plunged into a much worse economic hell, with millions suddenly laid off, and millions of mom and pops permanently ruined. Thanks to another monster bailout, only Wall Street is doing well.

Broke and enraged, mobs swarm American streets, but instead of targeting those who are imploding their society, they pull down statues, break windows, deface walls, loot stores and attack cops or each other.

When your tyrants can't even be identified, much less found, no coup, uprising or revolution is possible, and it's pointless to assassinate an American president, since he is but a puppet, so who should be shot?

The month I was born, two presidents were killed. Though Ngo Dinh Diem has often been caricatured as an American puppet, he obviously broke his strings, or he wouldn't have been shot. Kennedy, too, went off script. His death was a warning. It works.

American elections are cathartic farces. Drawn out and elaborately staged, they're designed to give false hopes and stoke emotions. With the national mood already so volatile and foul, however, this year's balloting promises to be a horror show. Unable to aim at their oppressors, Americans will be reduced to shooting each other.


TG , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:53 pm GMT

"Far from threatening the 1%, antifa sows dissension among the 99%. Ignoring Wall Street, antifa trashes one Main Street after another."

Kudos. Well said!!!

"Who should be shot?" I answer the question in the purely hypothetical, I am not in any way suggesting this line of response. But the answer is obvious.

When Tsar Nicholas and his family were murdered by the communists, it put the fear of God (or fear of something) in the hearts of the western plutocrats and we got the New Deal and more than a half century of the working class getting at least sort of a reasonable cut of the proceeds.

"Who shall we shoot?" If the Jeff Bezoses and Zuckerbergs and Soroses etc. of the world take a personal hit – if they begin to think that even they, in their well-guarded bubbles, are not safe – only then will we get any sort of consideration from the top. It is personal fear, not morality, that will cause the elites to again begin to value stability and order over rapacious looting.

No I am not in any way suggesting violence. Not me, no how. But it remains true that only the threat of personal violence directed at the elites, will cause them to reconsider their current socially destructive path.

Carlton Meyer , says: Website July 11, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT

Though Ngo Dinh Diem has often been caricatured as an American puppet, he obviously broke his strings, or he wouldn't have been shot.

The CIA recruited Diem to be the puppet ruler of a nation they had created. He was living in New Jersey and then became head of South Vietnam without an election. He had attended the same elite school in Hue as Ho Chi Mihn and meant well. When he saw that fighting was increasing he wanted to cut a deal with Ho Chi Mihn, who had won the 1954 elections was the legitimate ruler of all Vietnam after the temporary cease fire line that divided Vietnam ended in 1956. The DMZ was an illusion created by the CIA and Pentagon.

This is why Diem was killed by a CIA coup, and was followed by other puppet leaders. The CIA's attempt to create a new nation that became known as South Vietnam failed by 1964, which is why American troops arrived.

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The Alarmist , says: July 11, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT

Mussolini had his Blackshirts, Hitler his Brownshirts and Mao his Red Guards. America's rulers have antifa.

The Black Shirts were able to gracefully fade away for the most part, but the other two groups had a rather difficult go once they had served their purpose. It would be fitting justice for AntiFa to go the way the Red Guards once President Abrams is safely ensconced: After all, you can't feed a country with hooligan student revolutionaries roving the streets rather than working the farms.

Si1ver1ock , says: July 11, 2020 at 11:31 pm GMT

The month I was born, two presidents were killed. Though Ngo Dinh Diem has often been caricatured as an American puppet, he obviously broke his strings, or he wouldn't have been shot. Kennedy, too, went off script. His death was a warning. It works.

Liz Chaney is thwarting Trump's troop draw-down in Afghanistan with help from Dems as well as Republicans.

House Democrats, Working With Liz Cheney, Restrict Trump's Planned Withdrawal of Troops From Afghanistan and Germany

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/house-democrats-working-with-liz-cheney-restrict-trumps-planned-withdrawal-of-troops-from-afghanistan-and-germany/

Trump is thinking about doing something stupid in Venezuela.

He is already antagonizing China.

Priss Factor , says: Website July 12, 2020 at 12:01 am GMT

Not quite nine years later, almost no one is talking about banksters, incredibly, although the country has been plunged into a much worse economic hell Broke and enraged, mobs swarm American streets, but instead of targeting those who are imploding their society, they pull down statues, break windows, deface walls, loot stores and attack cops or each other.

Pelosi said even if DC burns down to the ground, the US will be 100% for Israel. Why not include Wall Street, the money bag of Jewish Power?

In a way, what we are seeing is the Japanization of White America. This is why the US should not have dropped the nukes and forced unconditional surrender. They should have allowed Japan to surrender with honor. Make Japan give up its empire and military ambitions but let the Japanese keep their culture and sacred myths. But the US forced unconditional surrender, turned the Emperor into Tokyo Shoeshine boy, occupied Japan(and still has bases there), used Japanese women as whores & mistresses, and turned Japanese men into castrated cuck-wussies. Sound familiar?

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animalogic , says: July 12, 2020 at 8:18 am GMT

Great article.
"Their movement fizzled out, however, because it degenerated into an endless display of narcissistic posturing, with everyone making self-important speeches about his or her pet cause, to an audience of fifty, tops, which is not how a revolution is ever made."
"Far from threatening the 1%, antifa sows dissension among the 99%. Ignoring Wall Street, antifa trashes one Main Street after another."
Is it ANY wonder why Elites love the post-modern, the PC, & antifa so much. Talk about the "magic pudding" & the gift that just keeps on giving .

Franz , says: July 12, 2020 at 9:31 am GMT

Broke and enraged, mobs swarm American streets, but instead of targeting those who are imploding their society, they pull down statues, break windows, deface walls, loot stores and attack cops or each other .

Hey! What the 19th century robber baron said has finally come true:

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." -- Jay Gould

They are being paid: BLM and Antifa people are being bankrolled. Just tote up the corporate donations the BLM in the past week and flip. More money than most nations have in the treasury. As to Antifa, Soros funded them for years. All to get rid of white people.

If it weren't happening, who'd believe it?

theMann , says: July 12, 2020 at 12:44 pm GMT
@Brian Reilly

You left out the Media Jackals. They are the willing and ever ready mouthpieces for the Satanic Cult the Financial Elites would turn America into. In fact, the Media liars have as much culpability as any group in the country for our current disaster.

Polemos , says: July 12, 2020 at 3:39 pm GMT

I think one reason why we're no longer talking about a 1% is that enough of us started to ask the question: what race/nationality are the 1%?

Parbes , says: July 12, 2020 at 4:23 pm GMT

Who should be shot? Start with the neocons (particularly the Jewish ones). They are the head of the snake in the West – especially the U.S. – today. Most evils are downstream from their actions/policies, directly or indirectly.

ruralguy , says: July 12, 2020 at 4:45 pm GMT

Who should be shot? It's hard imaging Americans staging a revolution. The DOD says 75% of young Americans don't quality to serve in the military, because they are too fat or too dumb. Our protesters protest because they get to appear virtuous -- they need some kind of participation award.

Jmaie , says: July 12, 2020 at 4:54 pm GMT

Jeff Stryker , says: July 12, 2020 at 5:00 pm GMT

...Upthread someone mentioned Bezos as being in the 1%. While he is certainly uber wealthy, I've always thought of him in a different way. In my mind the 1% are the wall street guys who financialize everything, and if they all went away tomorrow our (main street) economy would greatly improve. If Amazon goes away, I'd have to start buying all my crap in person. Ugh

The same fools assume the 1 percent will hang around when things become very adverse in the US. Nope. They'll do what wealthy South Africans did and the US lumpens will do what Boers did.

Nobody cares if the poor in the gutters of Wall Street go on hunger strike The one percent does not care if the poor go hungry anyhow.

Average middle class Americans are naive as to how callous and unconcerned the one percent is. The blacks and Hispanics at the bottom of society are aware, of course. That is why laws and customs mean nothing, nor bourgeois values. But it is the middle class who is actually naive enough to believe the one percent gives a fat rat's ass about them, about America, about their feelings.

I'm surprised this is not obvious to more people.

Rev. Spooner , says: July 12, 2020 at 5:07 pm GMT

Both Antifa and the Patriots have a huge red-blue target painted on their backs. Unless they can identify their overlords clearly, they will fight each other.
Hey Americans, who is it that you cannot criticize?

gaston julia , says: July 12, 2020 at 7:26 pm GMT
@ruralguy

https://www.wired.com/2009/11/75-of-potential-recruits-too-fat-too-sickly-too-dumb-to-serve/

[Jul 11, 2020] The Great Covid-19 Deception and What You Need to Know to Survive by Gary Heavin

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The Great Covid-19 Deception and What You Need to Know to Survive GARY HEAVIN JULY 10, 2020 1,600 WORDS 74 COMMENTS REPLY Tweet Reddit Share Share Email Print More RSS

I've been speaking with my friends who include medical doctors and other highly educated people about the treatments that they would seek if they were diagnosed with Covid 19. Most of them had no idea what course of treatment they or their families might seek. This conundrum is in part due to the massive volume of information that is being thrown at us. Much of this information is deliberately deceptive. I am writing this article to cut through the deception so that you and your physician can make informed decisions if and when the time comes.

This article has two purposes. First, it's imperative that you understand the great deceit that Big Pharma, their minions at the FDA, CDC, NIH, the WHO, the MSM, and officials in high government positions are perpetrating on you, your family, and likely your doctor.

The second purpose is to assure that you are armed with the necessary information to insure that you receive the best treatment options from your health care provider. Knowledge is power.

Allow me to repeat, you need to know you are being duped and you need a plan for you and your family if you become infected with Covid 19. So let's get to it. Let me begin by stating that I'm not a medical doctor and I m not offering medical advice. I do have a bachelors of science degree in health, nutrition, and counseling. I've written two NY Times bestselling books on women's health and fitness and I have been awarded an honorary doctorate degree. However, you will need to determine your treatment options with your personal physician.

The Great Deception

When it comes to safe, effective and affordable therapies for Covid 19, Big Pharma and its agents, i.e. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx and many others, appear to have an agenda to lie to you and your physician.

The most obvious example is their ongoing effort to ridicule the treatment option of hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc. We've all watched the harsh criticism that President Trump received when he promoted this protocol for Covid 19.

So, hydroxychloroquine has been around for almost 70 years as a treatment for malaria, lupus, and rheumatoid arthritis. The WHO has designated it as a safe and effective medication akin to taking an aspirin. A survey of 6,000 medical doctors affirmed it as their treatment of choice for Covid 19.

The treatment works like this. hydroxychloroquine is an ionophore, which means it can transport material through the cellular wall. Zinc is a mineral that stops the replication of the Covid 19 virus within the cell. hydroxychloroquine transports Zinc into the cell so that it can stop the replication of the virus. The Z-pak antibiotic is given to prevent opportunistic bacterial infections like pneumonia that can occur while your immune system is engaged in fighting your viral infection. The key to its effectiveness is to start this treatment at the early onset of Covid 19 so that it has time to work.

How much effort has Big Pharma put into subverting this treatment regimen? In addition to denouncing its effectiveness, from Dr. Fauci and company, constant MSM hit pieces, the censoring of medical doctor's articles and videos from the internet, there has also been a number of "studies" done that were literally sabotaged from the onset.

The VA hospital system reported in March that they had given hydroxychloroquine to a number of patients. Following their release of information, the MSM ran the story with the headlines, "VA hospital found that hydoxychloroquine doesn't work and increases the fatality rate of Covid 19." However, if you actually read the study (see link ) you will find that only the sickest of the cohorts were given the drug. They got the drug only after they were so far along that it would not have a chance to work and they were not given zinc. None of these details made the MSM articles.

Another example of the Great Deception came from the British medical journal, The Lancet. The Lancet reported that a meta study showed that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective. As a result of this published study, France, Italy and other European countries immediately prohibited the use of this treatment option. Within a few weeks, it was found that the study was so badly designed and that the results were literally fabricated . The Lancet was forced to make a retraction of the "study." Of course in the meantime the MSM ran the original Lancet story and mislead millions of people and their physicians.

So what could possibly be the motive behind Big Pharma's Great Deception. Well there's three answers, money, money and money. That brings up the treatment option that Big Pharma is promoting, Remdesivir. This lovely experimental drug, costs above $3,000 per regimen, must be given intravenously in a hospital (five days stay around 15 grand) and evidence shows it doesn't really work .

The other treatment option is the promised Covid 19 vaccine that they allege is forthcoming. The NHS in Great Britain has committed to purchase a vaccine for the entire population of Great Britain. That's a commitment of 80,000,000 doses at an agreed price of around $600 for each vaccination. That's about $50,000,000,000. (50 Billion) That's a lot of incentive to mislead people. This week, a US pharmaceutical company received $1.6 billion dollars towards their efforts to make this vaccine which in the opinion of many experts, won't work on a coronavirus and will be untested and experimental.

How does Big Pharma have so much control over the dissemination of this information or should I say propaganda? Well, the same answer pops up again, money. Big Pharma gave $2 billion dollars during the last election cycle to US politicians. Big AG, the military/security complex and big oil each gave only a paltry $1.0 billion dollars to buy the votes of our political leadership.

The MSM counts Big Pharma's advertising revenue at up to 80 percent of their income. The internet's "masters of the universe" also kowtow to Big Pharma's influence and advertising dollars by censoring anyone who tries to tell the American people the truth about Covid 19. It certainly appears that anyone who is complicit in this Great Deception, a deception that is designed to kill and terrify enough people to ultimately beg for an experimental vaccine, well, these people would be accessories to murder.

What You Need to Know to Survive

Now, for some good news. There are several therapies that are being offered that appear to be safe, effective and affordable. However, these therapies must be utilized early in the disease progression.

Budesonide

Japan, Taiwan and other Asian countries have maintained a much lower fatality rate with Covid 19 then we have here in America, in spite of the fact they live in densely populated communities. Many people believe that it is due to their preferred method of treatment. They use a steroid medication that is inhaled in a mist through a home use nebulizer. I'm familiar with this since my 2 year old granddaughter needed this treatment with a similar drug for an upper respiratory issue that she had recently. That speaks to the safety and the commonality of this treatment. Watch the link of a Texas doctor who shares his patient's experiences with this therapy method using the drug Budesonide and a course of antibiotics.

Ivermectin

Another treatment option that appears to be safe and effective is the use of the antiparasitic drug Ivermectin with the antibiotic Doxycycline. Just one Ivermectin pill and then the course of antibiotics for ten days resulted in a 100 percent cure rate for Covid 19 patients according to the attached study. Ivermectin has been widely used on the continent of Africa for many years as an anti-parasitic and is believed to be a primary reason that Covid 19 has not severely impacted the African population.

Hydroxychloroquine & Zinc

As we've seen above, this therapeutic regimen should be considered simply due to the efforts to prevent you from knowing the truth about it . As Shakespeare wrote, "Doth thou protest too much?"

The challenge with this therapeutic is both finding a doctor who will prescribe it and finding a pharmacy that will sell it. This should be between you and your doctor. Not the governors of certain states. Considering that 20 percent of all drugs are prescribed "off label", meaning that they are prescribed for a use other than intended, you and your doctor should have the liberty and the responsibility to make this health care decision.

There are several other therapies that appear to be safe, effective and affordable. You may want to research Chlorine Dioxide, intravenous ozone, high dose intravenous vitamin C and another, glutathione which are popular treatments in the homeopathic communities.

As for me and my family, we are going to make informed and responsible decisions regarding our health care. I hope the information I've given to you today along with the links for further information will help you, your family and your doctor make the best decisions as well.

Gary Heavin and his wife Diane are the founders of Curves, the world's largest fitness franchise. Gary is the author of two NY Times bestselling books, Curves and Curves on the go. Gary co-wrote and starred in the movie Amerigeddon. Gary is a pro-life libertarian and serves on the advisory board of Dr. Ron Paul's Institute for Peace and Prosperity. Gary and his wife are philanthropists who feed 10,000 children a day in Haiti and operate an orphanage outside the slums of Mumbai. Most importantly, they are bible believing Christians.


Anon [694] Disclaimer , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:42 am GMT

Excellent article. Early treatment is definitely key. The French doctor who recommended hydroxychloroquine way back in Feb. said that it needs to be given early, by the time they go on ventilator it's no longer effective. I read in Zerohedge last week that in TX, doctors said they simply give patients who come into the emergency room a steroid shot and send them home with antibiotics. Usually they are already feeling much better after the steroid shot. Even those who are hospitalized are now only staying 3-5 days.

I find it incredulous that on their website, CDC is still telling people to stay home if they are sick, that "many people" get over it themselves without treatment, and to *not* go to the doctor's until we are having difficulty breathing. By then it is too late! Doctors have said that the main difference btwn Covid patients and flu patients is, with a flu patient, when their lungs are 10% fluid, they are already having difficulty breathing, but for some reason for Covid19, the patient does not have difficulty breathing until the lungs are 50 to 60% fluid, which is why it's too late by the time they sought treatment.

This article discusses the low fatality rate in HK(0.4%) and Singapore(<0.1%), the doctors there attributed it to early treatment using a different cocktail of drugs: interferon beta-1b, which was developed to treat multiple sclerosis; ribavirin, which is used in the treatment of hepatitis C; and lopinavir-ritonavir, also known by its brand name, Kaletra. But again, early treatment is key.
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/how-hong-kong-singapore-kept-coronavirus-death-rates-low/ar-BB14CLbM

CDC is an absolute fail. I'm beginning to believe they want more people to die so Trump would lose the election. They need to change their advice on their website before more lives are senselessly lost. Pence as the Covid Tzar is also totally failing on his job by not calling him out.

I'm also beginning to believe those who claim hydroxychloroquine doesn't work simply want to keep it for themselves and their cronies to take as preventive drug. Trump has been on it and he hasn't gotten sick, even though he's been exposed to lots of people. Something tells me many of our congress critters and the effing Jews are already loaded up on it.

Anonymous [426] Disclaimer , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:50 am GMT

I can't wait for November 4th when COVID-19 ends for good and all the masks and social distancing bullshit ends. Thankfully this C-19 psyops will last just 8 months and not the 2+ years the Russian collusion BS was drawn out to. Though sadly with the former it has further eviscerated working/middle-class America. I'm guessing that was part of the plan as well.

Quinsat , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:24 am GMT

The great Covid deception is it hasn't fulfilled Koch's postulates.

Smokey , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:51 am GMT

I believe Mr. Heavin more than I believe the government, and the CDC in particular.

But that could also apply to a Numerologist vs the gov't, so there's that.

I don't believe Jeffrey Epstein died a natural death any more than I believe the mainstream media is the least bit impartial. They used to try. They tried to keep the news and the Op-Ed pages separate. But that was then and this is now

This is getting fun!

So, I used to believe that cops were always the good guys, and that federal judges were above politics. Oh, and they would never lie, or take a bribe. And I believed that priests would never, ever molest a boy, or even girl (did I get that backward?), or even use bad words around them. And I believed Scoutmasters took Boy Scouts up into the mountains for the fresh air and Indian lore OK, this is starting to sound ridiculous.

Except, now I'm not sure what to believe any more.

Can anyone tell me ?

Chris in Cackalacky , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:57 am GMT
@Kirt

No offense but do you know how many people claim to have had Covid before Covid was cool? I don't know anyone who has tested positive but I know 25 people who claim they had or have it. In the past three years there have been severe influenzas making the rounds, there is no denying that. And why should routine flu and colds take a holiday just because our criminal elites tell us there is a special disease we need to watch out for? My point is we are so deceived that nobody knows up from down anymore. But at least we know one thing for sure -- hostile elites are working to deceive us.

Achilles Wannabe , says: July 11, 2020 at 6:33 am GMT

My doctor suffers from a delusion common to her profession. She thinks she is a "Medical Scientist". Actually she is a retailer for pharmaceuticals and medical technologies. She is a sales person in a capitalist industry And should she have any questions about her real role in a health care field which is really a substance and med tech pushing industry, her colleagues – fellow sales people – will remind her of her professional obligations by threatening her board certification to insure her near absolute conformity to market standards.

But there is no getting her to understand her real role in the medical industry. She believes her own hype or the hype created about her profession back in the 1950s when a few genuinely useful drugs and technologies were discovered which then afforded the money making corporate establishment the opportunity to take a humane craft and, thru the "science" of Epidemiology -Medical speak for lying with statistics – turn professional Medicine into probably the largest boondoggle in history. Consider the flag ship for usurious medicine – cholesterol lowering statin drugs.

But why don't I get rid of my essentially brain dead doctor, go to to someone else? Practically speaking, there is no one else. There are doctors who understand all this and write books about it but they are so rare as to be useless when real sickness like bacterial infections for which there are useful technologies like antibiotics actually occur. The most useful thing these real scientific doctors have to say is "Don't see your doctor" unless you have a real emergency – like an old fashion visceral type sickness – as opposed to some epidemiologically hyped condition like, again, "high cholesterol" as the "cause" of heart disease.

But now we have a genuine epidemic that is killing and injuring people and Medical Science is lying to us about possible treatments. Even a Medical skeptic like myself could not have predicted this level of base greed by our Medical pharmaceutical establishment This is tantamount to MURDER. And we have no government -whether it be run by Democrats or Republicans- who will take action. They are all on the Med Pharm tit and/or deluded by "Medical Science" as well. Until we learn to help ourselves and overthrow this system, God help us

Valka , says: July 11, 2020 at 6:48 am GMT

$50 billion just for Britain America doesn't stand a chance.

TheTrumanShow , says: July 11, 2020 at 6:58 am GMT

Thanks, Gary.

I've been reading everything counter-&-alternative to the deception I could find since it first appeared, but had never thought to investigate therapies until reading your article. Fortuitously, for me (in Thailand), Hydroxychloroquine is being used therapeutically and may even be available OTC.

However, Big Medicine & Big Pharma are already here and steadily making inroads into health care and medicine.

Gleimhart Mantooso , says: July 11, 2020 at 7:10 am GMT

Whatever happened to that vaccine that some Israeli Genius Doctors claimed would be ready in a few weeks, which was months ago now? What a shock that that never materialized.

Trygve Blodøks , says: July 11, 2020 at 7:38 am GMT

You should also look into coodial silver water. I got rid of an hpv infection using it. No side effects.

Herald , says: July 11, 2020 at 9:14 am GMT

The author doesn't mention Vitamin D, which is rather strange.

skrik , says: July 11, 2020 at 9:29 am GMT

@Gary Heavin

The Great Covid-19 Deception and

Click-baitish, much? Well, you got me in, but you seem to have a good 'treatment' argument, and 'good luck,' both by avoiding Covid-19 in the 1st place and finding a 'collaborative+pursuasive' Dr in the 2nd = worst case, should you or one of yours gets 'hit.' [Perish the thought.]

But IMHO, the Great est Covid-19 Deception is the negligent way most 'Western' governments have *not* taken Covid-19 properly seriously, starting of course with US = Trump and UK = Johnson then perhaps SE 'led' by so-called expert Tegnell next in a looong list of apparent delinquents.

Again IMHO, when Wuhan realised that they were under a bio-warfare-like attack [possibly when they 1st saw the PRRA inclusion in the decoded genome], they reacted like cut snakes and proceeded with the speed of fear-stricken Gazelles in a very largely successful attempt to *suppress* the virus. But, of course, they are communists, eh? So-called 'democratic' [in-name-only governments, many largely bolshie 'wo/men in the street'] think differently [even to their own detriment; they just can't help themselves.]

With the possible exception of NZ = Ardern, most 'Western' governments went for 'mitigation' = 'flattening the curve,' if they took any action at all, see BR = Bolsonaro "has accused the media of "fear-mongering"" and IIRC said something like "What can I do?"

Here is an article, 1st found by me in March on MoA :

"Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance"
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

MoA blurb: 'Here is his latest in which he argues not only to "flatten the curve" but to eradicate the virus.'

For my last IMHO, all 'Western' leaders who have acted with less than full effort = incompetently meaning ineffectively on behalf of their 'own people' should be prosecuted for their negligence. rgds

GeeBee , says: July 11, 2020 at 9:34 am GMT

A good article all around, except that the population of the UK is nowhere near eighty million. The latest figure I can find gives 66 million. Also, your attempt to invoke the Bard ('As Shakespeare wrote, "Doth thou protest too much?"') is lamentably botched. Try 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'. (Hamlet's mother Gertrude says it of what she regards as overacting in a play that Hamlet has arranged for his mother and her husband, the usurper Claudius, to watch).

Justvisiting , says: July 11, 2020 at 10:37 am GMT

It is a great idea to have a candid discussion with your doctor/nurse on the issue of big pharma's economic power and how it creates conflicts of interest in the medical profession.

Many doctors/nurses already knew it and will quickly agree, many more "get it" after you explain it to them.

If your doctor is so brainwashed by "experts" that they think you are an "anti-science kook", time to get a new doctor!

gotmituns , says: July 11, 2020 at 10:40 am GMT
@Kirt

Bingo – it's all a total bunch of malarkey. All the BS isn't aimed at people our age (I'm 76), it's aimed at the milennials and younger. It is shaping them for the "Brave New World" that they will live.

Simon Tugmutton , says: July 11, 2020 at 10:48 am GMT

First let me say that the virus has never been satisfactorily isolated and does not meet Koch's postulates, which leads some people to speculate that it does not exist at all. The symptoms are so various as to be nonsensical; whatever the virus may be, last winter, that led to all the hospitalizations is open to question. Certainly the fear-porn spewed out 24/7 by the corporate media led to high levels of anxiety among the credulous and many of these no doubt presented as Covid-19 patients even though they were in fact suffering from the flu or a bad cold. Once in the hands of the quacks, nosocomial infections and intubation really made them sick – or dead.

As for protection against any respiratory illness, vitamin D is essential and I am surprised the author fails to understand this. 4000 IU per day maximum.

All that aside, Covid-19 a gigantic psyop designed to usher in a world government. It was even rehearsed in 2019 and all the wrinkles worked out beforehand.

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Mark G. , says: July 11, 2020 at 10:56 am GMT

If you can't get hydroxychloroquine there is some evidence that the natural substance quercetin found in apples and onions can act as an ionophore that transports zinc into the cell. Instead of the z-pak, a natural antibiotic like oregano or cinnamon oil might suffice. These items quercetin, zinc and oregano and cinnamon oil are all available down at the local health food store. There is more evidence for the hydroxychloroquine, zinc, z-pak combination so those would be the preferred combination if you can get them but these natural substances might help if you can't get them and might act as a preventative to keep from getting the virus if you use them regularly.

I have found only a few studies that support the use of these natural substances but you need to understand that since these aren't drugs they can't be patented so there isn't the same financial incentive to prove their effectiveness as there would be with drugs that can be patented and then sold exclusively by one company.

UncommonGround , says: July 11, 2020 at 10:59 am GMT

Whether hydoxy/chloroquine works or not is something that will be clear only after there are studies that allow to take a final conclusion. The question has been discussed critically by the press, by medical doctors, by people. Of course, everybody knows that it's possible that no vaccination will function or be available (we can hear this everyday on television). Contrary to what the author says, a phamaceutical firm was happy that the medicament could be possibly used when the question came up and some people were optimistic about it. The web site of a German television wrote in may that it was still conceivable that hydoxychloroquine could work in the very early stages of the disease (after first negative results). This was only speculation.

The author mentions a talk with some friends of him and some information that he has. But there have been a few studies, good or bad, with chloroquine with negative results. The study of the Lancet was taken back because the data that they used was apparently not trustworthy. This shows how difficult it is to have good and conclusive results in a short time. We can say the same about the evidence used by the author. It doesn't mean very much. We still have to see what happens and until now we don't know. There are efforts to find ways to treat better the disease. In German, I read yesterday:

https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/mannheim/heidelberg-neue-corona-behandlungsmethode-100.html

chuckywiz , says: July 11, 2020 at 11:15 am GMT

The media never talks about those who recovered from Corona virus like BOJO, the prime minister of UK or others. What treatment the recovered patients received, how it helped them and other information. We hear only the scary stuff.
Dr. Fauci and associates could never develop his promised HIV vaccine. I read somewhere that he had been on the same job for the last 37 years. Go figure.

"DR" Bill Gate of MS is an expert of globalized vaccination and his articles on the subject have been published in several Medical Journals.
New Economy. Question More.

Linux_tyro , says: July 11, 2020 at 11:31 am GMT

I was diagnosed with an upper respiratory infection in April. Was given a Z-pack for 5 days, an inhaler, Albuterol Sulfate that I am going to refill and a pill for cough, Benzonatate 200mg. They tested me for Flu, Pneumonia, Strep and Covid. All test came back negative.

Now I have a sinus infection and was prescribed another Z-pack with Prednisone 250mg twice a day for five days.

I've been feeling under the weather for months now.

Oh! Now I remember my question. How much zinc daily should we be taking?

Emslander , says: July 11, 2020 at 11:39 am GMT

So, now we know who the enemy is. When can we start arresting and executing them?

I've had a condition common to old men for a long time. I went to some MD from the Far East who started immediately talking about cutting me up. I went to a second doctor, a young American, and told him I guess I needed to be sliced and diced. He said, "Not so fast" and recommended the regular use of two substances I could get at the vitamin store. I did so and the matter improved to the point that I felt effectively cured.

Last week, I went back to him. He works at a large establishment that includes my regular MD. I started telling him about how miraculous and enlightened his advice was. He quickly shut me up and started talking about operations and antibiotics. He wouldn't even listen when I told him that his earlier advice had worked. My presumption is that the financial people got to him. I'd guess that they do a regular review of medical care by each physician to see how they can better monetize their practice. Anyway, his changed tone was remarkable enough that it had to be something like money that was involved.

mark tapley , says: July 11, 2020 at 11:47 am GMT

Covid 19 is just another in a long line of fake or hyped up illnesses. Remember H1N1, H5n1, SARS1, Swine flu, Bird flu, Zika and others. AIDS was another fake disease (read Dr. Peter Duesberg on this). The same type of hoax is being perpetrated with the current Corona "epidemic."

Notice it supposedly began in Wuhan China. This city of 11 million has the worlds worst air pollution. 350,000 people per year die of pneumonia in China. There are lots of people there that can be tagged as Covid 19 victims. Also quickly touted as a hot spot by our Jew controlled MSM was deaths in Italy. Official autopsies revealed over 99% of victims had pre existing illness, most of them had multiple ones at an avg. age go 69.5. Latter the age went up but I can't remember the exact figure. Remember CDC criminal Debra Brix said "we have told the hospitals to tag everything possible as Covid 19."

Remember the fake tents set up all over and the hospital ship that looked like a relic of WW1. The MSM kept talking about overflowing hospitals. Several people took videos of near vacant hospitals at this time including Brian Ruhe's exposure of Vancouver's practically empty hospital. Whenever you see the media jump all over something with all the official spokesmen and there is no alternative opinion allowed, you known it is a gov. false flag. All of a sudden climate change is no longer the critical topic of the day. I guess Greta Thunberg got the covid.

The covid 19 has never been identified by the standard scientific method of the Koch's postulates because they can't. If you have a fake virus you must have a fake test. That is the PCR test that gives ap. 200 false positives, does not determine one Corona (cold from another) and is not quantitative is a fake test. The numbers given by the CDC (holds 50 vaccine related patents) that is really an adjunct of big Pharma are a crock of baloney. Most of these figures are generated from old people in the nursing homes that are given a "visual" conformation as having covid. Note that Fauci said in February that the masks did more harm than good. Hospitals get paid big money for labeling patients as Covid victims and many times doctors just write it on the report.

The Zionists have hit a home run with this medical hoax and they will never give it up unless the cucks start using their brain a little bit and figure some things out. The next move will be manditory dangerous vaccines for all the cattle. There is big money to be made in the vaccine scam. To get the truth on vaccines read Dissolving Illusions by Dr. Suzanne Humphries and books by Forrest Maready.

The Covid scam has been planned for many years, this was an opportune time to spring it as a cover for the central banks theft of trillions more while bankrupting the workers and small businesses. The Jews at Blak Rock are big investors in masks and will now be scooping up failed businesses everywhere just like in 08.

Emslander , says: July 11, 2020 at 11:47 am GMT
@Smokey

Except, now I'm not sure what to believe any more.

Can anyone tell me ?

My uncle told me a story a long time ago about a man who had his young son climb a tree in the back yard. He let him get pretty high and then said, "Jump Johnny, Jump!" Johnny said, "If I jump, I'll get hurt." The Dad said, "No, I'll catch you." Johnny jumped and the Dad did nothing. The boy hit the ground and was crying, though not permanently injured.

He said to his Dad, "Father, you promised to catch me."

"Let that be a lesson," the Dad said. "Don't trust NOBODY."

Brás Cubas , says: July 11, 2020 at 12:03 pm GMT

Gary is a pro-life libertarian

Well, seeing as libertarians are against government action to stop abortions, I suppose all that a libertarian who opposes abortion is allowed to do is acting against it in their private life; seeing as that is exactly what the pro-choice option means, you see that Gary's position is rigorously meaningless: he is pro-life and pro-choice at the same time.

That is a really grand deception, regardless of any other claimed by this article, and all I need to know about it.

Giancarlo M. Kumquat , says: July 11, 2020 at 12:17 pm GMT

Stop feeding those Haitians!

St-Germain , says: July 11, 2020 at 12:24 pm GMT

Thanks for your article.

I also prefer plain facts to eloquent fiction (MSM). Your article has obvious practical value for the public. It's a keeper. I also hope it circulates widely as an effective antidote to virulant MSM viruses.

BTW, my first act following retirement from four decades of professional news writing was to cancel all newspaper and magazine subscriptions. There is no utility in paying to be misinformed.

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people who have never set foot in a news room now regurgitate MSM propaganda as though it came down from Mt. Sinai. MSM journalism has now run the gamut from the duty to reveal what is true, even if it hurts, to the need to say what sounds nice, even if the reporter himself doesn't believe it. That's the definition of PR.

anonymous [400] Disclaimer , says: July 11, 2020 at 12:29 pm GMT

When this wears thin they'll discover another killer virus and there'll be another go-round. They started off saying the lockdowns were just for a brief time and then when they got their foot in the door it was extended. Now government herding people around by diktat is a permanent feature of American society. They'll never let it go. There's already been some report of some other mysterious killer virus coming out of Kazakhstan so get ready. This is the largest transfer of wealth scheme ever, the assets of the bankrupted scooped up by the big companies.

An Easterner , says: July 11, 2020 at 12:38 pm GMT

'Most importantly, they are Bible believing Christians.'

That for me, as a Muslim, is the best guarantee that the person writing this article will have written all in good faith because he or she is answerable to God.

Overall, the article was very informative and pertinent to the situation we face today.

macilrae , says: July 11, 2020 at 12:47 pm GMT

The article cites imperfect studies in which hydroxychloroquine was found to be an ineffective therapeutic for COVID19 – imperfect because the treatment was generally started too late in the progression of the disease. The author postulates that, if treatment were begun earlier, mortality would be drastically reduced but, unfortunately, there is no study to support this and the majority of people suffering the symptoms of early-onset COVID19 will recover spontaneously anyway.

Singapore, with its superb bureaucratic infrastructure, has reported over 45,000 infections but only 26 deaths – that is 4 deaths per million population. South Korea reports 13,000+ deaths and 287 deaths (6 per million population) and Japan 20,000 cases and 981 deaths (10 per million) compare this to the USA with 364 deaths per million or the UK with 718.

I have yet to see a convincing explanation of these shocking differences and, when asked recently, a British government spokesman said that it is "too early" to start drawing international comparisons – "too early" for whom you might ask? Evidently not for those who have succumbed – by now a huge effort should have been put forth to account for the disparity – even if the explanation is demographic as is being largely claimed. I assume that national pride has stood in the way of seeking answers by sending study teams to these countries.

The article recounts a number of inexpensive treatments that might work and points to "Big Pharma" as the major reason these are not being systematically studied – that may well be an impediment in the USA particularly – so gathering of data from East Asia, where that influence is far less and where dramatic positive results are seen, is all the more urgent.

Meanwhile my family will wear masks and hunker down because we have no particular plan to implement if one of us catches this bug.

Butch , says: July 11, 2020 at 1:01 pm GMT

Here is a clue, stop doing ALL the things they tell you to do because its all designed to make you sicker. Eat real food, so many people just don't get it, its garbage in and garbage out. Curves have always been flattened by the healthy freely moving about [oops, stay home], health from being outside, in the sun, and amongst nature is vital [oops stay inside], eating good REAL food is how you have a good immune system [oops, dont want that we need sick people for the pharma devils, therefore we'll allow FAST [shit] FOOD to be readily available [no contact of course [OMG can you actually believe this crap?] Wear a mask because the covid devil lurks everywhere [oops, retard the flow of healthy oxygen into your body, breath back in your own exhalations of CO2 and bacteria so you can increase your odds of getting sick, you just cant make this twisted stuff up!!!] Social distance, thats the best one? We should be wanting to be social for many many reasons, the least of which is because we ARE social animals, but the best way to flatten any curve is, as previously stated, assimilate it [as humans have with all viruses] to develop herd immunity [something that you CANNOT get with a toxic vaccination], like Sweden and Japan. STOP watching MSM and social platforms removing truth. Actually STOP watching TV, its all designed to make you think a certain way.

Off The Reservation , says: July 11, 2020 at 1:06 pm GMT

The biggest problem with this article is that it does not address the fundamental basis of the fraud that is CV19.

The Chinese supposedly identified a new coronavirus and named it SARS-CoV-2.

Then, the WHO made a vague list of symptoms and created a syndrome called COVID19.

There is no proven connection whatsoever between the supposedly identified virus and the syndrome.

Billing codes were created that allow the assumed or tested diagnosis of CV19.

To make matters worse, a test was created which only tests for "markers" of coronavirus and has never been proven to connect to the above viruses or the above syndrome. Thus testing positive or negative really has no meaning as proven by the disconnect between symptoms and diagnosis.

Then, the government incentivized and instructed the use of the above billing codes and created the commonly known situation of people dying "with" the syndrome even though they died of other causes.

Add to that the manipulation of the case count, etc. Then, you have New York and New Jersey basically murdering people with treatment. Loved ones banned from visiting homes – for reasons they might bring the virus in – while "positive" sick patients are brought in. Reconcile that.

I am not saying a few people aren't sick, but there is no way to deal with something while these language tricks are going on.

The virus, the syndrome, and the tests, and the count of cases have no scientific connection to each other. What is it you are talking about being treated for? The flu?

CW2isComing , says: July 11, 2020 at 1:14 pm GMT
@Gleimhart Mantooso

Yes, where IS that Wonder of Modern Medicine anyway? We were breathlessly told of its soon-to-be release; I even thought that it was peculiar that the Israelis were so serendipitously working on just the right strain of coronavirus as to be in the forefront of vaccine development.

Miracles happen.

Except when they don't. And, to summarize here, there has NEVER been a stable/effective vaccine for the coronavirus family of viruses. NEVER.

As in, NEVER.

Adûnâi , says: Website July 11, 2020 at 1:22 pm GMT
@skrik bio-warfare-like attack [possibly when they 1st saw the PRRA inclusion in the decoded genome], they reacted like cut snakes and proceeded with the speed of fear-stricken Gazelles in a very largely successful attempt to *suppress* the virus. But, of course, they are communists, eh?"

Finally some sense in the sea of conspiratards. It is fascinating to observe the insanity of White nations – they will cling to their clearly delusional beliefs to the end, even when an alternative is presenting itself this whole time.

Wearing a mask apparently turns you into a slave. Believing in the existence of the virus makes you a shill. Pure anarchism, just without the bombs.

The comment #19 by UncommonGround is decent as well.

anon [327] Disclaimer , says: July 11, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT

Best cure for C-19: Put Dr. Fauxci and Dr. Birx , ilk,
on a SpaceX ship bound for Mars.

Doesn't need to be a big ship.
Use sardine packing method.

CW2isComing , says: July 11, 2020 at 1:35 pm GMT
@Mark G. As well (and mentioned in some of the above comments) there are many studies indicating that adequate levels of Vitamin D may be protective. Best source: sunlight; then fresh fish, then supplements.

The entire point of this article is "self-rescue." It is clear to me that the "official" recommendation is to "stay home, don't come to your doctor's office/E.R. until you get shortness of breath, etc." so as to not "overload the hospital system."

The latter advice will get you killed if you are elderly and/or have certain co-morbidities. Treat yourself early on, be proactive towards you health; oh, also, maybe stop shoving Cheetos down your neck, take a walk, lose some weight?

anon [624] Disclaimer , says: July 11, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT
@skrik

Moon of Alabama is a controlled website that censors dissenting commenters. The Covid-19 has completely blown the cover of that site and Mr. 'b'. Do not push that site. This unz.com site does not censor comments. Get back to us when Mr. 'b' (or is that German Intelligence?) decides to play his role properly again.

Gary Heavin , says: July 11, 2020 at 1:58 pm GMT
@Herald

Hi Herald,
The reason I didn't mention vitamin D3 is that I classify it under prevention rather than therapeutics.
I take 2,000 iu daily, 2,000 mg of vitamin C, 30 mg of zinc and 200 mg of magnesium to help prevent illness.

Twodees Partain , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:04 pm GMT
@Quinsat ch's postulates.

That's the main point of information needed if "need to know" is at the top of the list on how to survive. A person "diagnosed with covid19" should know that the existence of this "novel coronavirus" has not been established in any way that is based in actual science.

Such a diagnosis subjects the purportedly infected person to treatments that would be, at best, useless. Diagnosis is the starting point for a political assault conducted by means of "contact tracing" prescribed by an Israeli intelligence operation, and can't possibly include any effective medical treatment.

No medical treatment exists that can cure infection with an imaginary virus.

Gary Heavin , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:06 pm GMT
@GeeBee

Thank you for your corrections. When I found out that Ron was going to post my article on this website I was very excited due to the quality of its readership. People like you.

Really No Shit , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:08 pm GMT

A chinaman told me that lots of chopsuey with exotic wild animals worked for his country, whereas a wetback told me lots of beans and rice with hot sauce was the key to their success. Here in my neighboring neighborhood, the Borough Park, I hear that bubbies are offering up matzo ball soup with a scrawny chicken thrown in and the Bensonhurst Fredos are insisting that had the Italian government not abandoned the age old custom of over eating pasta fagioli, none of those paisans needlessly would have died. So, who do you believe?

Gary Heavin , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT
@Linux_tyro

25 mg of zinc daily is what I take

Agent76 , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:19 pm GMT

July 9, 2020 CDC May Officially Downgrade COVID From An 'Epidemic'

The coronavirus mortality rate in the United States has dropped so low that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may soon stop calling the virus an "epidemic."

https://principia-scientific.org/cdc-may-officially-downgrade-covid-from-an-epidemic/

Twodees Partain , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:32 pm GMT
@Emslander

"the regular use of two substances I could get at the vitamin store."

What two substances?

Alfred , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT
@Anon

I'm beginning to believe they want more people to die so Trump would lose the election.

I am surprised it is taking people so much time to work that one out.

The media don't want you to see this chart. That is why I won't stop shouting CASES

Anonymousse , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:53 pm GMT

I had symptomatic corona. It was a day and a half of mild fever and fatigue. Basically like the flu but not nearly as bad. Everyone else I've known that had symptomatic corona (already a small minority of those who actually got infected woth corona) experienced the same or even less.

If you're just about to die from something else anyway, yeah maybe such a mild disease can give you that last little push. At that point you need to be thinking about saying confession and your relationship to eternity not some magic drug extending your life another few months

It's just the flu bro.

Desert Fox , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:54 pm GMT

Coronavirus is one of the biggest scams, frauds, psyops, mass hypnosis, in history, see these sites for the truth about the coronavirus scam, henrymakow.com , thetruthseeker.co.uk, chuckbaldwinlive.com , thedollarvigilante.com .

Alfred , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:55 pm GMT
@Gleimhart Mantooso aled that they had designed a vaccine and tested it on hamsters. They wrote that a single dose "was able to protect hamsters against SARS-CoV-2."

Their best shots: Israeli efforts to invent a coronavirus vaccine, explained (Times of Israel)

You can be absolutely certain that the clowns above removed their masks as soon as they were off-camera.

Trinity , says: July 11, 2020 at 2:58 pm GMT

The (((CoronaRona?))) Well, put it this way, the same people pushing the (((CoronaRona))) story or the same people who told you that Germans gassed 6 gatrillion Jews in the "holocaust." You might have a better chance at seeing Santa Claus than dying from the (((CoronaRona.)))

During the riots, the weasel, Fauci and that female doctor whats her name, were nowhere to be seen, and now they have returned and the (((CoronaRona))) is being looped 24/7. My guess is that all these (((medical experts))) will recommend another lock-down until the election. IF Biden wins, which given the corruption out there, is highly likely whether we are in lock-down or not, the (((CoronaRona))) will fade away into the night. IF Trump is somehow is reelected, well the (((Antifa-BLM))) types will be having another meltdown that the (((media))) will cover 24/7, and the (((CoronaRona))) will be back page news again.

I'm (((CoronaRona))) and I approve this message.

Che Guava , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:13 pm GMT

This reply is both to Kirt and Garry Heavin.

For Kirt, yes, I think I already had it too, seven or eight weeks from NYE last year to mid-Feb. of this. As I have said several times, the area near my workplace was usually full of Chinese tourists.

I had a cough, extreme lethargy on many days, a slight fever. Water frnm my nose, always the case for me in winter, but no sneezing. I must raise the idea with my regular doc., since I saw him at least three times over that time.

As for our author, Heavin's article, he is clearly offering better ideas for treatments than big pharma, but who really needs treatment?

Those who have a persistent cold-like syndrome?

Anyome identified through the polymerase chain reaction tests, which prove nothing.

Just ignore it and it will go away seems by far the wisest course.

schrub , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:29 pm GMT

On an entirely different topic:

WARNING: FOR THOSE WHO USE NORD VPN for their VPN service

If you select NORDVPN's "CYBERSEC" option to "block ads and malicious websites" , you will no longer be able to get on sites like unz.com or many other right wing sites (like Mike Rivero's site: whatreallyhappened.com for instance).

NORDVPN's CYBERSEC will, however, allow you on all the left wing sites pushed by the ADL. This means that NORDVPN'S CYBERSEC option is probably using the ADL's filtering criteria.

I questioned NORDVPN about this "selectivity" and never received a reply.

This also means that your NORDVPN software could well be spying on you and recording your keystrokes if you try to access to certain unapproved sites EVEN IF if the CYBERSEC option hasn't chosen.

NORDVPN is now, curiously enough, based in Panama, a country which the US government has been shown in the past to have considerable influence over when the need arises. (Ask Manuel Noriega for examples)

Spread the word.

It might be time choose a different VPN sofware if you are now using NORDVPN. Anybody have any good suggestions?

Zarathustra , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:33 pm GMT

I believe!
I believe in CNN.
I believe that half of population of USA will die of Corona virus.
The other half because Corona virus infecting toe nails will become zombies.
Also their brains are now eaten out by Corona virus.
All US population will be replaced by natives from Africa.
First herd of Negroes are already swimming halfway in Atlantic toward America.

Well?
Its not really funny.
But than CNN is never funny.

CW2isComing , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:35 pm GMT
@Twodees Partain

@Emslander

Yes, why are you being cryptic here–on this site–where a free exchange of information is desirable?

Herald , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:38 pm GMT
@Alfred

Cases now mean positive tests and of course, no really knows what that means, other than that more useless tests have been carried out. As the graph clearly indicates these so called "cases" have little to do with deaths. Nor do they have anything to do with hospitalisations.

We are clearly in the midst of an almighty scam, which is much much bigger than simply getting rid of Trump.

Emslander , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:41 pm GMT
@Twodees Partain

Extract of cranberries and D-Mannos. Together they are very good. I presume that they can't cure serious problems, but they work pretty well.

I'm not a doctor and I don't even work on TV.

Alfred , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT
@UncommonGround ut a thorough check.

A report in The Guardian also found that the key employees of Surgisphere included a science fiction writer and an adult movie star.

The HCQ study mess: How 3 Indian researchers put reputation of Lancet, NEJM at stake

How 3 'smart' Indian names have ruined 200-year reputation of most respected medical journals

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-6WnSiCPYyQ?feature=oembed

Zarathustra , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:55 pm GMT

But putting all attempted jokes aside and talking a little bit more seriously, CNN did become certified criminal enterprise now.

Gary Heavin , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:56 pm GMT

To Bras my pro-life libertarian position does not become "meaningless" as if my prolife and libertarianism negate each other as you suggest. It's quite simple. Libertarianism demands we not harm other persons. An unborn baby is a person.
To Che I certainly agree with you that Covid 19 has been hyped, politicized, misrepresented, etc..
If I come down with a severe upper respiratory event that is heading toward pneumonia-like symptoms, I've lost my sense of taste and smell I'm going to talk with my Doctor and try one of the therapies I've written about. I hope you do the same.

Thomas Milton , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:57 pm GMT

"What you need to know" .is that this crisis has been spun from whole cloth.

Montefrío , says: July 11, 2020 at 3:58 pm GMT
@gotmituns e before the year is out. My bucolic life has been given a shake and I'm scrambling to best position our family (we live on the same property) financially and economically when BNW arrives with a vengeance. I wish to leave my grandchildren (my son, a water well driller, is prospering, happily, but still ) wholly owned property and the houses thereon plus one. I believe the BNW will have a distinctly local air to it in rural or semi-rural communities: little travel, local employment save for telecommuters, detachment from social media, different educational strategies and opportunities, etc. If you share this belief, get cracking and pretend that the reset has already arrived and act accordingly.
schrub , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:00 pm GMT

AS an answer to my own question about a new secure VPN service, I just came upon this. Anybody have any experience with this outfit?

https://protonvpn.com/about

I now wouldn't trust any VPN whatsoever service that wasn't entirely "open source". Protonvpn claims to be "open source". (On the other hand, NORDVPN isn't open source).

https://protonvpn.com/blog/open-source/

Definition of very important term "open source" for those are unfamiliar with it:
https://opensource.org/osd

If a software isn't "open source" it could potentially be spying on you. Choosing a VPN service using "open source" software should be the PRIMARY and most critical consideration when choosing a VPN service.

Non "open source" VPN software is open to outside manipulation and possible government infiltration.

Wally , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:02 pm GMT
@Gleimhart Mantooso

asked:
"Whatever happened to that vaccine that some Israeli Genius Doctors claimed would be ready in a few weeks, which was months ago now?"

– The same thing that happened to the 'Israeli Geniuses' laughable, but "historic", attempt to put a spacecraft on the moon.

Israel's Beresheet spacecraft crashes during historic moon landing attempt : https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/how-watch-israel-s-beresheet-spacecraft-attempt-moon-landing-ncna993436

Alfred , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:04 pm GMT
@Emslander

It suits her personality as she is a quite orderly and methodical person. However, it means that she is incapable of critical thinking. All doctors in Australia are invited to free seminars and meals at expensive restaurants – paid for by pharmaceutical companies.

Sadly, she did not listen to my opinion about vaccines for our two girls. In the State of Victoria, they give a mandatory HPV vaccine. However, HPV is only a problem for those who are promiscuous. Furthermore, this vaccine is essentially an unknown. It is highly-expensive at some US$300 – paid for by the tax-payers. I suspect the vaccine altered the personality of one of our daughters. It is uncanny.

Astuteobservor II , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:05 pm GMT

It seems the only way to convince retards is to kill them or let them see dead bodies everywhere.

It is like the old saying in IT.

Everything is working, wtf does the company need you for.

Everything is falling apart, wtf does the company need you for.

On covid.

Lockdowns and quarantine is working, wtf, covid is Nothing, flu is worst.

Death count is now twice the number of the worst flu year, the lockdowns and quarantine are the causes, not covid.

Lincoln was right, just need to make sure the 80% retards gets fooled, the other 20% doesn't matter as their voices would be drown out by the retards.

If this covid virus is as deadly as it needs to convince the retards, nukes would have flown. I wonder how many retards understands why that is.

Zarathustra , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:13 pm GMT
@Gary Heavin

Slightly increase the daily intake of butter you moron, and you will not need to worry anymore.

Montefrío , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:21 pm GMT
@macilrae

I neither wear a mask nor hunker down and I'm a "double-vulnerable" (nearly 74 and mildly diabetic). A close lady friend is the village pharmacist and when on duty wears the mask under mild duress; neither of us wears it when alone with each other. Unless you're in a densely populated area, better to go out and get at least half an hour of sun daily, fortify yourself and family, keep the faith and don't succumb to manufactured fear, sez I.

Sparkon , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:35 pm GMT
@macilrae ak links here in the USA, sad to say. During my most recent trip to the market, I saw perhaps 7-10% of shoppers with their masks pulled down so it was covering the mouth, but not the nose. For the most part, these non-complying shoppers were the fat, ugly, slovenly, and stupid looking types one would try to avoid anyway, so the pulled-down mask is a good signal to give these types a very wide berth.

Recall that the world's experience with COVID-19 amounts to just six or seven months. Nobody knows what this virus may do in the future, but odds are it will mutate, like all viruses.

Psst: If it's just the flu, bro, why is it still spreading in the summer?

Vandal , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:41 pm GMT
@chuckywiz

The regiment I've seen published is as follows

Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days

ZPAK 500mg once a day for 5 days

Zinc Sulfate 220mg daily

Pragma , says: July 11, 2020 at 4:47 pm GMT

Mr. Heaven:

I found your figures regarding the vaccine cost and quantity remarkable, to say the least.

After some research, I could find no reference of a commitment by the UK government to purchase 80 million doses at $600 each.

I did find, however, reference to the Oxford/AstraZeneca potential vaccine AZD1222 which is estimated to cost around 2.5 euros or about $2.80 US. This appears to be the direction that the EU is going, but it is unclear if the UK will be part of it.

Could you please forward a link or reference for the source of your figures?

Gary Heavin , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:16 pm GMT
@Pragma

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8123691/With-estimated-477-injection-potentially-billions-coronavirus-jab.html
As you can imagine, this article has been lambasted by big pharmaceutical interests.

Thim , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:19 pm GMT
@macilrae

Your family will wear masks, because you are slaves. Absolutely no one claims wearing a mask will prevent you from catching a flu or cold (Corona virus).

Bardon Kaldian , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:20 pm GMT

So, it's all a giant conspiracy Interesting: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/10/health/coronavirus-entire-body-effects-columbia/index.html

How coronavirus affects the entire body

TheTruthSeeker , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:30 pm GMT

Pavia, a cure that works, challenges media silence: "Plasma kills the virus"

"Plasma kills the coronavirus." The therapy developed by the Immuno-hematology Institute of Saint Matthew in Pavia is encouraging. In this exclusive interview with The Daily Compass given at the end of his experimentation, director Cesare Perotti reveals the positive results: "The treatment works; at the moment no one has died; the USA has asked for the protocols." But nobody is talking about it: "There are other interests opposing us, but we will address these after the scientific publication." This is how the shared treatment works, by "using" volunteers who have recovered to help heal those who are sick.

Reference and continuation:

https://newdailycompass.com/en/pavia-a-cure-that-works-challenges-media-silence-plasma-kills-the-virus

Rubicon , says: July 11, 2020 at 5:53 pm GMT
@Achilles Wannabe

What Achilles Wannabe writes is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

If I have to, the ONLY way to purchase HDC is via my Canadian brothers. Naturally, I would need an American doctor's prescription, but push comes to shove, I absolutely refuse going to ANY American "medical doctor" to treat me.

Hopefully, the Canadian prescription stores would be able to fill that prescription. If not, oh well.
Living in this dying nation is death-defying.

[Jul 09, 2020] Russia-Baiting Is the Only Game in Town by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... The cash must be Russian sourced , per the NYT, because a couple of low level Taliban types, who were likely tortured by the Afghan police, have said that it is so. ..."
Jul 09, 2020 | www.unz.com

There is particular danger at the moment that powerful political alignments in the United States are pushing strongly to exacerbate the developing crisis with Russia. The New York Times, which broke the story that the Kremlin had been paying the Afghan Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers, has been particularly assiduous in promoting the tale of perfidious Moscow. Initial Times coverage, which claimed that the activity had been confirmed by both intelligence sources and money tracking, was supplemented by delusional nonsense from former Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice, who asks "Why does Trump put Russia first?" before calling for a "swift and significant U.S. response." Rice, who is being mentioned as a possible Biden choice for Vice President, certainly knows about swift and significant as she was one of the architects of the destruction of Libya and the escalation of U.S. military and intelligence operations directed against a non-threatening Syria.

The Times is also titillating with the tale of a low level drug smuggling Pashto businessman who seemed to have a lot of cash in dollars lying around, ignoring the fact that Afghanistan is awash with dollars and has been for years. Many of the dollars come from drug deals, as Afghanistan is now the world's number one producer of opium and its byproducts.

The cash must be Russian sourced , per the NYT, because a couple of low level Taliban types, who were likely tortured by the Afghan police, have said that it is so. The Times also cites anonymous sources which allege that there were money transfers from an account managed by the Kremlin's GRU military intelligence to an account opened by the Taliban. Note the "alleged" and consider for a minute that it would be stupid for any intelligence agency to make bank-to-bank transfers, which could be identified and tracked by the clever lads at the U.S. Treasury and NSA. Also try to recall how not so long ago we heard fabricated tales about threatening WMDs to justify war. Perhaps the story would be more convincing if a chain of custody could be established that included checks drawn on the Moscow-Narodny Bank and there just might be a crafty neocon hidden somewhere in the U.S. intelligence community who is right now faking up that sort of evidence.

Other reliably Democratic Party leaning news outlets, to include CNN, MSNBC and The Washington Post all jumped on the bounty story, adding details from their presumably inexhaustible supply of anonymous sources. As Scott Horton observed the media was reporting a "fact" that there was a rumor.

Inevitably the Democratic Party leadership abandoned its Ghanaian kente cloth scarves, got up off their knees, and hopped immediately on to their favorite horse, which is to claim loudly and in unison that when in doubt Russia did it. Joe Biden in particular is "disgusted" by a "betrayal" of American troops due to Trump's insistence on maintaining "an embarrassing campaign of deferring and debasing himself before Putin."

The Dems were joined in their outrage by some Republican lawmakers who were equally incensed but are advocating delaying punishing Russia until all the facts are known. Meanwhile, the "circumstantial details" are being invented to make the original tale more credible, including crediting the Afghan operation to a secret Russian GRU Army intelligence unit that allegedly was also behind the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury England in 2018.

Reportedly the Pentagon is looking into the circumstances around the deaths of three American soldiers by roadside bomb on April 8, 2019 to determine a possible connection to the NYT report. There are also concerns relating to several deaths in training where Afghan Army recruits turned on their instructors. As the Taliban would hardly need an incentive to kill Americans and as only seventeen U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan in 2019 as a result of hostile action, the year that the intelligence allegedly relates to, one might well describe any joint Taliban-Russian initiative as a bit of a failure since nearly all of those deaths have been attributed to kinetic activity initiated by U.S. forces.

The actual game that is in play is, of course, all about Donald Trump and the November election. It is being claimed that the president was briefed on the intelligence but did nothing. Trump denied being verbally briefed due to the fact that the information had not been verified. For once America's Chief Executive spoke the truth, confirmed by the "intelligence community," but that did not stop the media from implying that the disconnect had been caused by Trump himself. He reportedly does not read the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB), where such a speculative piece might indeed appear on a back page, and is uninterested in intelligence assessments that contradict what he chooses to believe. The Democrats are suggesting that Trump is too stupid and even too disinterested to be president of the United States so they are seeking to replace him with a corrupt 78-year-old man who may be suffering from dementia.

The Democratic Party cannot let Russia go because they see it as their key to future success and also as an explanation for their dramatic failure in 2016 which in no way holds them responsible for their ineptness. One does not expect the House Intelligence Committee, currently headed by the wily Adam Schiff, to actually know anything about intelligence and how it is collected and analyzed, but the politicization of the product is certainly something that Schiff and his colleagues know full well how to manipulate. One only has to recall the Russiagate Mueller Commission investigation and Schiff's later role in cooking the witnesses that were produced in the subsequent Trump impeachment hearings.

Schiff predictably opened up on Trump in the wake of the NYT report, saying "I find it inexplicable in light of these very public allegations that the president hasn't come before the country and assured the American people that he will get to the bottom of whether Russia is putting bounties on American troops and that he will do everything in his power to make sure that we protect American troops."

Schiff and company should know, but clearly do not, that at the ground floor level there is a lot of lying, cheating and stealing around intelligence collection. Most foreign agents do it for the money and quickly learn that embroidering the information that is being provided to their case officer might ultimately produce more cash. Every day the U.S. intelligence community produces thousands of intelligence reports from those presumed "sources with access," which then have to be assessed by analysts. Much of the information reported is either completely false or cleverly fabricated to mix actual verified intelligence with speculation and out and out lies to make the package more attractive. The tale of the Russian payment of bribes to the Taliban for killing Americans is precisely the kind of information that stinks to high heaven because it doesn't even make any political or tactical sense, except to Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff and the New York Times. For what it's worth, a number of former genuine intelligence officers including Paul Pillar, John Kiriakou , Scott Ritter , and Ray McGovern have looked at the evidence so far presented and have walked away unimpressed. The National Security Agency (NSA) has also declined to confirm the story, meaning that there is no electronic trail to validate it.

Finally, there is more than a bit of the old hypocrisy at work in the damnation of the Russians even if they have actually been involved in an improbable operation with the Taliban. One recalls that in the 1970s and 1980s the United States supported the mujahideen rebels fighting against the Soviet presence in Afghanistan. The assistance consisted of weapons, training, political support and intelligence used to locate, target and kill Soviet soldiers. Stinger missiles were provided to bring down helicopters carrying the Russian troops. The support was pretty much provided openly and was even boasted about, unlike what is currently being alleged about the Russian assistance. The Soviets were fighting to maintain a secular regime that was closely allied to Moscow while the mujahideen later morphed into al-Qaeda and the Islamist militant Taliban subsequently took over the country, meaning that the U.S. effort was delusional from the start.

So, what is a leaked almost certainly faux story about the Russian bounties on American soldiers intended to accomplish? It is probably intended to keep a "defensive" U.S. presence in Afghanistan, much desired by the neocons, a majority in Congress and the Military Industrial Complex (MIC), and it will further be played and replayed to emphasize the demonstrated incompetence of Donald Trump. The end result could be to secure the election of a pliable Establishment flunky Joe Biden as president of the United States. How that will turn out is unpredictable, but America's experience of its presidents since 9/11 has not been very encouraging.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


Zarathustra , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:28 am GMT

Also there are the poppy fields.

Milton , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:35 am GMT

The Deep State vermin who pulled-off the violent, proxy overthrow of Yanukovych in 2014, and who are also behind the Arab Spring, Syrian Rebels, ISIS, and the ongoing domestic unrest Stateside, are the descendants of the vermin who overthrew Christian Russia in 1917 using the same modus operandi of color revolution and “peaceful protests.”. Putin undid all their hard work in Russia and kicked them out and seized their ill gotten gains: this, coupled with their congenital hatred of Russia, is the reason for the non-stop, bipartisan refrain of “Russia, Russia, Russia.”

anonymous [316] • Disclaimer , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:05 am GMT

It is probably intended to keep a “defensive” U.S. presence in Afghanistan, much desired by the neocons, a majority in Congress and the Military Industrial Complex (MIC), and it will further be played and replayed to emphasize the demonstrated incompetence of Donald Trump.

There are other reasons for wishing to stay in Afghanistan. Generals don’t like losing wars. It is personally humiliating to retreat. The whole country is also worn down by lost wars and the psychological blow lasts for over 10 years like during the post-Vietnam era. Keeping 10,000 troops in Afghanistan permanently won’t win the war but it will prevent a defeat and potentially humiliating last minute evacuation when the Taliban retake Kabul.

Also Al-Qaeda is still present in Afghanistan: “Al-Qaeda has 400 to 600 operatives active in 12 Afghan provinces and is running training camps in the east of the country, according to the report released Friday. U.N. experts, drawing their research from interviews with U.N. member states, including their intelligence and security services, plus think tanks and regional officials, say the Taliban has played a double game with the Trump Administration, consulting with al-Qaeda senior leaders throughout its 16 months of peace talks with U.S. officials and reassuring Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri, among others, that the Taliban would “honour their historical ties” to the terrorist group.” https://time.com/5844865/afghanistan-peace-deal-taliban-al-qaeda/

vot tak , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:10 am GMT

While the melodrama about trump=pro Russia and dems=anti Russia makes good political theater to keep folks running in circles chasing their tails, this is not the main reason for the continuous attacks on Russia by organs of the zpc/nwo. The main reason is Russia is not owned by them. Not a colony. The main reason for the psywar is not about trump vs dems, it is about keeping the Russia=bad guys theme seeded in the propaganda. That was the main reason behind “Russiagate”, as well. And as with that scam, both “sides” knowingly played their part hyping the theater to keep that Russia=bad guy propaganda theme in the mind of americans.

Robert Dolan , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:12 am GMT

I can’t imagine that any intelligent person believes this bullshit about Russia. I completely tune it out the same way I tuned out any news about “CHAZ.”

Some things are just too silly to bother with.

Harold Smith , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:29 am GMT

“So, what is a leaked almost certainly faux story about the Russian bounties on American soldiers intended to accomplish? It is probably intended to keep a “defensive” U.S. presence in Afghanistan, much desired by the neocons, a majority in Congress and the Military Industrial Complex (MIC), and it will further be played and replayed to emphasize the demonstrated incompetence of Donald Trump.”

Let’s say for the sake of argument that the story is true. So what? I don’t see how it can be used as justification to double down on a pointless war. (Reasonable people might see it as another reason to get out of Afghanistan sooner rather than later).

Moreover, I don’t think they’d have to create such drama to get Trump the imperialist to keep the troops in Afghanistan (if he actually had any intention to withdraw them in the first place).

This propaganda effort reminds me of the Skripal affair. Perhaps Trump’s handlers and enablers realize that he’ll lose the election (if we have one) so they’re trying to manipulate him into escalating tensions with Russia (just as they are with China, Iran and Venezuela).

Alfred , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:30 am GMT

The Americans were always very proud and upfront about how they organized, trained, equipped and financed the Taliban to oust the Russians from Afghanistan. In view of this, why do they act so surprised should the Russians do something similar on a much smaller scale?

Obviously, the whole story was concocted in Washington, but so what?

Anyone with half a brain should know that the Americans are in Afghanistan because the Americans control the world trade in narcotics. Columbia is the cocaine end of the business.

I do wish some smart chemists would synthesize heroin and cocaine in a laboratory and put the CIA out of business.

Patagonia Man , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:33 am GMT

“and it will further be played and replayed to emphasize the demonstrated incompetence of Donald Trump”

The demonization of a democratically-elected President by the zionist-owned New York Times , Washington Post and CNN is somewaht reminiscent of the demonization of a certain Austrian in the Western media after the 1933 World Jewry’s declaration of war on Nazi Germany.

“He who controls the narrative controls the consciousness”

With Wolf Blitz’s, Bolton’s, and this week’s release of Trump’s relative’s book discrediting his mental health. How many books is that now???

But, times have moved on. Trump can ride this wave by learning the dark art of playing the victim using the mantra ‘look how hard I’m trying’ and appealing to US voters as their ‘law and order’ president.

Geopolitically speaking, if the US Zio-cons were smart, rather than suffering from ‘Groupthink’, they would be trying to entice Russia away from its partner, China, and draw Russia into playing a greater role in Europe. Recall that Putin had asked if Russia could join NATO.

But, alas, they’re still making the same mistake they did in 1991 after the collapse of Central Industrialism in the former USSR.

No Friend Of The Devil , says: July 7, 2020 at 6:51 am GMT

The Mujahudeen morphing into Al Qaeda is a new one on me that I have never heard before. I had read and heard countless times that it was Al Qaeda all along in Afghanistan that the U.S. assisted to fight against the USSR. It does not make sense either, since the MEK ( Mujahudeen ) is a twisted Shiite cult Iranian, and Al Qaeda is Arabic and twisted Sunni cult. So, the language and religious differences do not make any sense that one became the other.

I guess that it makes perfect sense to say anything at all, regardless of the facts, to the Terrible Trio in the DNC, just to keep the focus on themselves, rather than on Biden.

Mike_from_Russia , says: July 7, 2020 at 7:32 am GMT

We in Russia read both the main and alternative press in the United States with great interest. Sites with those translations are quite popular.

Mikhail , says: • Website July 7, 2020 at 7:40 am GMT

Initial Times coverage, which claimed that the activity had been confirmed by both intelligence sources and money tracking, was supplemented by delusional nonsense from former Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice, who asks “Why does Trump put Russia first?” before calling for a “swift and significant U.S. response.” Rice, who is being mentioned as a possible Biden choice for Vice President, certainly knows about swift and significant as she was one of the architects of the destruction of Libya and the escalation of U.S. military and intelligence operations directed against a non-threatening Syria.

The pathetic Rice has plenty of company. During a 7/5 CNN puff segment with Dana Bash, Tammy Duckworth (another potential Biden VP), out of the blue said that the Russians put out a bounty on US forces. Of course, Bash didn’t challenge Duckworth.

Downplayed in all of this is the fact that Russia was one of the first, if not the first nation, to console the US on 9/11, followed by Russian assistance to the US military operation in Afghanistan.

Achilles Wannabe , says: July 7, 2020 at 7:54 am GMT

“…the kind of information that stinks to high heaven because it doesn’t even make any political or tactical sense, except to Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff and the New York Times.”

Pelosi is the proud daughter of a shabbos goy father; Schumer is “shomer” or professed guardian of Israel; Schiff is the decendent of the Internationale Banker who supported Trotsky’s take down of the Czar; the NYT is what happens when Hebrews learn to write English. The Jews have been trying to rule Russia for almost 200 years as Solzhenitsyn would have told us if he could have gotten a publisher in the Jewish American publishing industry. If Stalin hadn’t thrown the Bolshevik Jews out, there might not have been a cold war. Watch out Gentiles. These people have taken us into 3 wars for their interests and they NEVER change.

Ray Caruso , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:01 am GMT

And, of course, the “conservative” maggots are going along with the obvious liberal lies once again. There has never been a group of more cowardly and worthless individuals than American “conservatives”.

Emily , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:10 am GMT

Russia
The hope of the world.
Edgar Cayce
Famous US psychic.

As the USA continues its path into a political, moral and military cesspit of pure corruption, lies, violence, mass murder and sheer evil, it is increasingly difficult to argue with Cayce.
He was certainly on to something, and that something was like, 80 years ago.
One can even put more belief and trust in a psychic these days – than anything being claimed or reported by the USA alphabets, government or MSM
Sickening and frightening really.

Emily , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:15 am GMT
@Zarathustra

Absolutely and full of the USA military.
Take a look.
Notice U tube has censored the Vid.
Tells you all you need to know about the content – if you have half a brain …….
https://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:23 am GMT

Philip, I wish you hadn’t written, “a certainly forks story.”

I’ve been seeing that too much, recently, that silly fashion of using “forks” for “false”.

Please stop it. Use correct English.

Emily , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:25 am GMT
@anonymous

There are other reasons for wishing to stay in Afghanistan. Generals don’t like losing wars

You would have thought by now the American Generals would have got used to ‘losing wars’.
They haven’t won one other than Grenada in living memory.
The Russians even had to win WW2 for them….
Russia and China would eat them alive today.
So we are now down to sheer bullying, bluster and illegal economic sabotage.
Venezuela springs to mind.

Franklin Ryckaert , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:47 am GMT
@Milton

Yes, but they also hate Putin for liberating Russia from its rapacious oligarchs, nearly all of whom were Jews. The present artificially created hatred for Russia in the US is in reality the hatred of the frustrated Jewish Mafia.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:59 am GMT
@Alfred

I agree. Except it would be fatal for the smart chemists. They’d all die for reasons smart chemists wouldn’t be able to work out.

But isn’t this the Art of the Deal? Breaching the deal? Hadn’t the US just made a deal with the Taliban to pull out? Pull its troops out?

So Russia was needed to help the U.S. pull out of the deal, right? Doesn’t Russia provide that help again and again and again?

animalogic , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:07 am GMT
@Robert Dolan

“I can’t imagine that any intelligent person believes this bullshit about Russia”

Lenny is clapping his hands excitedly.
“Oy believe it, George ! I do – I do – I do !”
George grunts, clears his throat & spits with some force & accuracy at a scrunched up copy of the NYT.

animalogic , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:14 am GMT
@Harold Smith

“Let’s say for the sake of argument that the story is true.”
For amusement’s sake, lets wonder what would happen should the Russians offer a bounty to US & allied troops to kill each other . A kind of cash incentive to bring back the final years of the Vietnam war.

Anon [833] • Disclaimer , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:26 am GMT

It sure will be entertaining to watch Joe Biden try to cope with the duties of the presidency. He makes the fictional President Camacho from the movie “Idiocracy” look like a statesman with the intellectual skills of a Teddy Roosevelt by comparison. I can picture his inaugural address in my head, as he inevitably loses his place on the teleprompter and starts babbling about pony soldiers and you know, the thing. After a grope fest at his inaugural ball, instead of the Oval Office he will immediately be consigned to the White House basement for the duration of his term. If you thought an inarticulate President Donnie made for good reality TV, just wait till a totally incoherent President Joe has the whole world rollicking with laughter. Plus, Republicans get their turn to amuse with grid lock of the Congress and the discharge of mass quantities of bog sediment at the administration every single day for four solid years. It’s a win for comedy no matter which candidate is elected!

animalogic , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:29 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse

Ann, you’ve got the quote wrong. Here is what he actually wrote:

“So, what is a leaked almost certainly faux story about the Russian bounties”

I’m going to assume you didn’t mean “forks” but actually “faux”.
Using “faux” is here is not incorrect. Giraldi could have meant the NYT article was “not real, but made to look or seem real” — which goes considerably further than “false”.
However, that does not necessarily mean that other users of “faux” are not indulging themselves in a “silly fashion”.

mcohen , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:51 am GMT

Meena talk to me

Robjil , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:52 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse

Forked tongue.

In that sense it makes sense.

The US/Israel and its Zion MSM always talks in Forked tongue.

Patagonia Man , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:56 am GMT
@Emily to consecrate Russia to the heart of Mother Mary – which still hasn’t fully been fulfilled, btw – is another indication of Russia’s leadership in a community of a shared future for humanity, aka Community of Common Destiny (CCD), as advocated by the Russian President’s ‘double-helix’ partner, China’s President Xi Jinping.

Compare and contrast that with, then President, Obama’s words to Putin: “The United States has exclusive rights to anywhere in the world.”

What an incredibly exciting time to be alive!

Cheers!

Patagonia Man , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:07 am GMT
@anonymous

Just a headsup!

Newsweek, TIME, The Readers Digest , & CNN are US propaganda outlets. It would be unwise to cite any of these sources.

Cheers!

Franz , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:15 am GMT
@Alfred family bankruptcy when every pharmacist knows they re-branded and off-shored their loot several years ago. Their fine was pocket lint to them.

But that fake allowed the corporate-government axis to make ALL serious painkillers effectively illegal, including the ones being used safely before Purdue Pharma came along.

Narcotics are safe when used properly, but where’s the CIA’s take there? So they killed their competitors and made your family doctor an agent. And sell lots of dope. Because the nation the CIA protects is in terminal debt, agencies need hard cash from somewhere .

tyrone , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:43 am GMT
@Robert Dolan

Yeah, but you don’t want to accidentally drive into some “CHAZ” ……planet of the apes scenario.

tyrone , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:51 am GMT
@Emily

That’s why the democrats and the left fight to keep the southern border open ,the hordes of third world peasants are just a “bonus”……look at who the drugs are destroying i.e. the target

Erzberger , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:52 am GMT

The Democrats have predictably been outdone by the anti-Trump Republicans in this matter. You can’t sink any lower in Russia-baiting than the Lincoln project’s recent release, “Fellow Traveler”. Beyond stupid and revolting. Gives you a clue of their very low opinion of the American voter

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eUBAAeuBpPQ?feature=oembed

peter mcloughlin , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:57 am GMT

There is a dangerous illusion – characterized in part by demonizing rivals – and that is the developing crisis is merely a re-run of the Cold War. After the Napoleonic wars the Congress system was established to maintain peace in Europe. It worked reasonably well, interrupted significantly by the Crimean war, but finally buried with the outbreak of WWI in 1914; it did not prevent that cataclysmic conflict. Then came the League of Nations for a short time; it did not stop WWII. The United Nations and other post-war institutions were established in the 1940s. Now we are in the approaches to WWIII. But very few see. The apocalyptic conflict feared during the Cold War is nearing.
https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

Sick of Orcs , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:18 am GMT

Russia Hoax 2 is supposed to keep our minds off the Uniparty’s anarcho-tyranny, but it’s awfully hard to fear Putin with orcs and shitlibs running amok wrecking statues of racist elks.

BL , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:30 am GMT
@Robert Dolan olostomy Bag, or were able to steal it on election night, Trump would be spending the rest of his life in prison right now.

And Russia would have acquiesced to, though more likely quietly assisted, the frame-up. What we don’t know at this point is what generational geopolitical payoff Russia was promised by Brennan in March 2016, for its participation. My suspicion is that Nord Stream II was merely a down payment.

I don’t envy Barr or Durham. How do they resolve this greatest political scandal in American history when at the center of it you have a former CIA Director who is a Russian mole.

Tom Welsh , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:55 am GMT

Michael Morell: “Let Us Kill Iranians and Russians in Syria!”

https://gosint.wordpress.com/2016/08/11/michael-morell-let-us-kill-iranians-and-russians-in-syria/

JoaoAlfaiate , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:55 am GMT

If you review the New York Times editorial page and its oped pieces you will see more half of the content each day is anti Trump. The Times has also played up the civil rights aspect of the BLM movement while playing down the hooliganism of Antifa and the looting by Blacks which has accompanied it. Many neighborhoods in Manhattan were trashed and looted far beyond what The Times reported. So promoting the “Russian Bounty” lie doesn’t surprise me at all. Remember also Times employees went absolutely crazy when the paper printed an oped by Sen. Tom Cotton. What a bunch of lying flakes and chicken shits.

Really No Shit , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:55 am GMT
@Franklin Ryckaert

“The Deep State vermin…” that @Milton is talking about is about the Jews. You’re merely reinforcing his salient points.

Tom Welsh , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:57 am GMT
@Anon

“… the intellectual skills of a Teddy Roosevelt…”

????

Patagonia Man , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:57 am GMT
@tyrone of more and more of the total of products and services produced in the US economy every year (GDP) goes to capital, i.e., the holders of wealth, rather than workers, which in turn creates a drag on further GDP – so eventually it becomes self defeating.

Think: Vicious Cycle of Poverty, as opposed to Virtuous Cycle of Prosperity.

But that explains why neither the Dems / Repubs are determined to do anything about the 1,000,000+ illegal immigrants crossing the US-Mexican border every year.

As said many times by many others: ‘The US has one political party – the business party, with 2 wings.’

Tom Welsh , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:59 am GMT
@Emily

“The Russians even had to win WW2 for them….”

The Soviets actually had to stop the Wehrmacht cold (very cold, indeed) and be ready to start rolling it back before the USA even dared to join the war.

Old and Grumpy , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:00 pm GMT
@Patagonia Man

US Ziocons movement is a family affair. They’re into the second and third generation, who are still following their daddy’s’ or grandpa’s playbook. Original ideas are hard to come by with this lot.

Z-man , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:04 pm GMT

The Democrats are suggesting that Trump is too stupid and even too disinterested to be president of the United States so they are seeking to replace him with a corrupt 78-year-old man who may be suffering from dementia.

Good one but what do you mean may be suffering ? (Grin)
Not only replace Trump with Biden but with all the radicals now infesting theDemo’krat party and manipulating demented, sleepy Joe.

anonymous [400] • Disclaimer , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:06 pm GMT

These are all made up stories. By the time one fake story is laboriously dismantled another one is made up. It’s always a game of playing catch-up. Russia makes a good boogyman and has served well in that role for three generations now so it’s a tested formula. It’s a dangerous game since all these idiots could sleepwalk us into an armed clash with Russia somewhere. Then of course there’ll plenty of problems but perhaps there’s a calculation that something like that could benefit this band of war inciters.

Patagonia Man , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:12 pm GMT
@BL ?

Are you not aware that cover stories are used to control explanations – to prevent any critical thinking by American voters of any incident/event?

This excellent,, short article explains what you need to know to defend yourself against cover stories in the future: Cover Stories Are Used To Control Explanations – UR columnist & insider Paul Craig Roberts.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/05/25/cover-stories-used-control-explanations/

Old and Grumpy , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:17 pm GMT

I know old liberals have ate up all things Russia, Russia, Russia. Have the POBs (people of brown)? Have all those post ’67 immigrants? They all vote democrats, and are now the future demographic of America. Its their kids that have to wanna die for the war machine now. Has the Yiddish propaganda sheet worked its magic on them? The 1619 Project sure did. My humble guess is no, despite their voting. Most just want money.

Folks, it is time to get your love ones to stop enlisting and re-enlisting in the US military. It is the only boycott we can do that will actually hurt.

Patagonia Man , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:19 pm GMT
@anonymous

anonymous[400]

“but perhaps there’s a calculation that something like that could benefit this band of war inciters.”

What better way for a tiny ethno-religious (~22 million) of getting majority-Christian nations to wipe each other out?

Same was true of WWI.

Except for Japan, the same was true of WWII.

Its not referred to as the oldest hatred for nuttin’!

anonymous [144] • Disclaimer , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:20 pm GMT

For what it’s worth, Pillar got shitcanned and rusticated by Cofer Black, Kiriakou got locked up, Ritter got framed as a pedo, and McGovern got the shit beat out of him by my DoS goons. So shut the fuck up a little, OK?

XXOO

Mistress Gina

Truth3 , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:30 pm GMT

Explainable in one simple sentence…

JEWS ARE LIARS AND THEY HATE RUSSIA AND WILL USE ANY LIE AS A WEAPON NO MATTER HOW STUPID IT MAY BE.

Z-man , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:31 pm GMT

So, what is a leaked almost certainly faux story about the Russian bounties on American soldiers intended to accomplish?

To sound like a broken record again , the CABAL hates Russia and specifically Putin because he re-established Christian Orthodoxy as the de facto state religion of Mother Russia. They would get The USA into a hot war with Russia if it meant hurting Putin, never mind what it would do to us. Their hatred is so strong that they could care less what it would do to America, the snakes that they are.

Dick French , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:40 pm GMT

All Russians would have to do to exploit the current unrest in America would be to knock out a social media platform or two, or perhaps to leak dirt on the people ginning up war. Those targets are absolutely hated by the American people outside the Imperial City.

Richard B , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:45 pm GMT
@Zarathustra and historically illiterate pseudo-intellectual BS about 1619 and Evil America that, because its evil, should change the names of the military bases where those soldiers trained under the impression they were going to defend their country!

The Hostile Elite is a rabid dog so totally out of control it needs to be put down immediately.

Whatever happens, no one should ever take the moral condemnation of psychopaths seriously.

Battered Wife Syndrome?

I give you Battered Nation Syndrome.

Time to prove to the world it’s possible to recover from it and move into a larger freedom.

dimples , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:45 pm GMT
@No Friend Of The Devil not called al-
Qaeda at this stage but some other name. Apparently the name al-Qaeda was first used by the FBI to reference this group due to some sort of misunderstanding, but it eventually became the name they adopted for themselves since that was what everybody was calling them anyway when they became famous after further adventures.

The above should be taken with a grain of salt since this is only what I have been able to glean from reading various articles. Presumably what is called al-Qaeda today are the descendants or associates of personnel from this particular group as opposed to other groups, but I don’t know.

Jake , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:46 pm GMT

When Russia was controlled by Marxists, Leftists and Liberals loved Russia, defended Russia, excused Russia, promoted Russia. Now that Russia has survived Marxist totalitarianism and begun rediscovering Russian cultural heritage, which features Christianity, Leftists and Liberals HATE Russia.

Who coulda thunk it possible?

More important is that our Neocons and our old guard Yank ‘conservatives’ – who control foreign policy for both Republicans and Democrats – in the military and the spy game see Russia today exactly as the Leftists and Liberals see Russia.

Both the Neocons and the Yank WASP Country Club types in the so-called ‘conservative’ arena agree with Leftists and Liberals about Russia.

There’s plenty of meaning there for those with ears to hear and eyes to see.

Anglo-Zionist Empire.

Beavertales , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:46 pm GMT

The Dem’s election strategists are grasping at straws again.

The deplorables they despise the most are flyover Americans who go to church or who serve in the military. These are the people they think are stupid and easily manipulated by wild tales and false flags.

The “bounty on American soldiers” is hogwash to gin up what they perceive to be a voting bloc of gullible whites.

The Dems weakness with working class whites is one they will try to shore up by crassly fake, flag-waving appeals to bedrock patriotism.

Erzberger , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:47 pm GMT
@anonymous equal, except negroes.’ When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read ‘all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.’ When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”

With Russia abolishing serfdom and slavery at the time – and much later than Western Europe – something had to be done to not be outdone by the Russians, of course. The hypocrisy would indeed have been unbearable. It still is.

Jake , says: July 7, 2020 at 12:51 pm GMT
@Really No Shit the mass of whites before the post-WW2 era, then you are ignorant. If you think the current Deep State is entirely Jewish, or even majority Jewish, you are ignorant.

Without any doubt, Jews now, and for decades, have per capita dominated the American Deep State. But they did not create it, nor did they create its evil. The Mossad did NOT create MI6 and the CIA. British Secret Service created the CIA and the Mossad.

America has a Deep State that flowed naturally from the British Deep State. The Brit Empire was the Anglo-Zionist Empire Part 1. America is the Anglo-Zionist Empire Part 2.

mike99588 , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT
@Tom Welsh

Best to let someone else do the dying for you…

US strategy at the end of WWII included letting Germans and Soviets wear each other down and kill as many of each other as possible, without US forces involvement. Obviously “we”, various US investors and the US taxpayer still gave the Soviets too much stuff, that propelled USSR economic success claims for the next 20 years.

mike99588 , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:05 pm GMT
@Beavertales

Just more Liberal/Dim/Zio/CCP sponsored horsesh*t, to drive US and Russia apart, to drive Russia toward China, when US would be better off trying to treat Russia neutrally (hang our CCP paid dems).

Richard B , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:10 pm GMT
@Milton

The Deep State vermin who pulled-off the violent, proxy overthrow of Yanukovych in 2014, and who are also behind the Arab Spring, Syrian Rebels, ISIS, and the ongoing domestic unrest Stateside, are the descendants of the vermin who overthrew Christian Russia in 1917 using the same modus operandi of color revolution and “peaceful protests.”.

Spot on!

But, a more accurate name than The Deep State is Judeocracy Inc.

Ahoy , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:24 pm GMT

Henry when he was running the world. All smiles and happiness for things going well.

https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+photo+with+kissinger&rlz=1C1SQJL_enGR884GR884&sxsrf=ALeKk01SoCRUg9amQT8FuVu5GpM2aFx0Ig:1594106491151&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=hvCJDUJwL5ljFM%252C6-3cEPq7dQi5TM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQDzP_0uOL0EoB7SIJD7ymANoY-UQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitl465zbrqAhVJxKYKHY5vDf8Q9QEwAXoECAkQBw&biw=1366&bih=657#imgrc=CD-Byc60rmzoLM

Then after this very polite send off Russia is bad, very bad.

https://www.thejc.com/culture/books/review-world-order-1.59212

Alfred , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:28 pm GMT
@Mikhail

followed by Russian assistance to the US military operation in Afghanistan.

Few people seem to understand the logistics of the war in Afghanistan. The US and their allies were hugely dependent on the Russian railway system. It is just so ridiculous to listen to these monkeys who pretend to be statesmen and women.

Susan Rice clearly uses skin whitener and hair straightener to look as much as possible like those she hates so much.

EliteCommInc. , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:30 pm GMT

Unfortunately, the matter with Russia is settled. And while I did not think there was evidence to support the matter. The current executive sign an intel report that accused the Russians and Pres. Putin specifically with sabotaging US election and murder and attempted murder. Unless our executive can reconcile that matter by extracting some manner of penance for hat behavior — reconciling with Russia is just a flat water tide.

Their actions constituted acts of war and while I may disagree with the assessment —

that is the US disposition on which nothing Russia says can be taken further than a pipe.

That intel report which this executive signed locks our posture in place regarding Russia. We kill people in this country for being suspects.

I don’t think the US citizen would look to kindly on shaking hands with a saboteur and murderer.

Whether the signing was a matter of political expediency is irrelevant,. The executive openly cited Russia as an enemy of the US. For me it was one of the most painful memories of the executives tenure, because

1. destroyed a large portion of our foreign policy agenda of toning down our presence anywhere

2. demonstrated the executive was not as string as I believed he needed to be.

If they were willing to interfere in our election and engage in political murder in allied states —there’s no reason to doubt that they would support the murder of our troops in a conflict one.

———————-

It was a devastating moment when the executive agreed to that intel report.

Emily , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:30 pm GMT
@tyrone 07110001-8
https://ips-dc.org/the_cia_contras_gangs_and_crack/
https://artvoice.com/2017/10/27/american-made-cia-drug-sex-trafficking-national-interest/
Latest on the final arrest of Kosovo vile war criminal Thaci a couple of weeks ago
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-ally-indicted-organ-trade-murder-scheme/5717900
Tom Welsh , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:33 pm GMT
@No Friend Of The Devil iv>

“A little learning is a dangerous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring”.

– Alexander Pope (“Essay on Criticism”)

The MEK is one of many organisations that use the word “mujahidin” in their names. That word is quite generic.

mujahedin (also mujahidin, mujaheddin, or mujahideen)
n plural noun Islamic guerrilla fighters.

ORIGIN
from Persian and Arabic mujahidin, colloquial plural of mujahid, denoting a person who fights a jihad.

– Concise Oxford English Dictionary

Z-man , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:35 pm GMT
@Jake

Agree. See post #49 above.

Emily , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:39 pm GMT
@mike99588 r Germany.
And vastly profiting from both sides – shamelessly.
Britain and the Commonwealth faced Germany alone through dark days indeed until Russia became our ally – before the USA incidently – conveniently overlooked..
The Americans finally came in Dec 1941 after Russia was already standing with us.
It has not been forgotten in Britain to this day.
The USA bled this country for decades, paying for what was so much crap amongst all else..
Lend lease – what a scam that was!!!!!
Whilst you traded and supported the nazi war machine against us.
Jake , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:45 pm GMT
@Truth3

When you work that into the British Empire acting to prevent Russia from forcing the Turks out of Europe and thereby liberating Constantinople, and acting to harm Russia deeply in order to win ‘The Great Game,’ you perhaps will then see that back to Oliver Cromwell and the Puritans that WASP Empire is Anglo-Zionist Empire.

Gidoutahere , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:51 pm GMT

Well, unlike the JewSA, Russia isn’t enthralled with the Jews. Putin and company kicked out Soros and his Open Society as well as the Rothschild bankers. Lastly the four billionaire Jew oligarchs who were running the Yeltsin economic shitshow were also shown the door. Perhaps the “Assad must go” flop played into Jewish ire as well.

David Rodriguez , says: July 7, 2020 at 1:59 pm GMT

Amusing to see Democrats so deeply concerned over the “Russian threat”. I was in the Agency during the Cold War. When the Soviets REALLY were a threat, most of those same Democrats urged retreat, compromise, submission. It makes my guts churn to see these “patriots” making hysterical claims against Russia. It is almost as if they resent the fact that Putin has rejected their entire Globalist plan, re-Christianized Russia, and locked up at least a few of the so-called “oligarchs” who were looting the Russian people of their patrimony. The case of Bill Browder deserves some attention. This Red Diaper baby (his grandfather was Earl Browder, chief of the CPUSA) has been one of the cheerleaders in the campaign to demonize Russia. Following the family tradition of a lack of loyalty (he holds British and U.S. passports, just in case!) this weasel used his granddad’s old Soviet contacts to make hundreds of millions carting off anything of any value left in the old Soviet Union. Of course, he worked with an equally greasy gang of former Soviets to do this, including one Sergei Magnitsky, a “tax advisor” working with Browder who assumed room temperature in a Russian jail after he was nabbed by the tax police. I really wonder if some of these Democrats and others who so denounce Putin had visions of sugar plums and hundreds of millions of dollars dancing in their heads, dreams rudely brought to earth by Putin?

Agent76 , says: July 7, 2020 at 2:08 pm GMT

Follow the CIA drug money!

Oct 20, 2009 Taliban Is Getting American Troops Hooked On Heroin

It diminishes the effectiveness of our troops as well as raises money for the Taliban, who are the ones growing the poppy. How can the US combat this new strategy?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cb3BXJIA1P8?feature=oembed

December 3, 1993 Opioid problem America?

The CIA Drug ConnectionIs as Old as the Agency

LONDON— Recent news item: The Justice Department is investigating allegations that officers of a special Venezuelan anti-drug unit funded by the CIA smuggled more than 2,000 pounds of cocaine into the United States with the knowledge of CIA officials.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/03/opinion/03iht-edlarry.html

June 10, 2014 Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium

U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production

http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053

Zarathustra , says: July 7, 2020 at 2:15 pm GMT
@Emily

Very noble endeavor. US Government should be really proud of it.

Agent76 , says: July 7, 2020 at 2:18 pm GMT

Jul 4, 2020 78% of Russians VOTE to break away from western neoliberal dogma

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov stated on Thursday that the result was a clear sign of the Russian people’s trust in president Putin.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/9QrHFids_s4?feature=oembed

Alfred , says: July 7, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc. e accused is served by having his lawyers present. Since the defendants have refused to appear in person – three of them disputing the Dutch jurisdiction — the defence lawyers should withdraw.”

THE DUTCH WRITING ON THE UKRAINIAN WALL – STEENHUIS RULING IN MH17 TRIAL PREJUDGES VERDICT

Erzberger , says: July 7, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT
@Emily t was only done to get into a position to share the spoils. Britain was no more than a vassal state of the US after WW I, and in no position to defeat Germany. Only Russia could, and they did, and would have done so with or without the Anglo-Americans. Stop whining about suffering you brought onto yourself. Besides, Britain suffered very little compared to the continent, including Germany, and European Jewry, and all of them would have suffered less without the British arrogance that they had to defend their national honour. Hope they stay out of European affairs now but it doesn’t look good at this fake Brexit moment
ChuckOrloski , says: July 7, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT

Wisely, Agent76 said, “The CIA Drug Connection is as Old as the Agency.”

Re; above, I suggest Grandfathered by Operation Gladio and it’s Vatican Bank money laundering component???

Am aware how an England bank, USBC, was caught laundering the Afghanistan drug trade billions and got a “slap on wrist.”

Linked below is an obscure article on President Putin’s special (on scene) Afghanistan envoy, Zamir Kabulov, who accused US intelligence in Afghanistan of drug trafficking.

https://tolonews.com/afghanistan/russia-answers-bounty-claims-says-us-drug-trafficking

Also, my special thanks to commenters, Harold Smith, Franz, and Alfred.

Alfred , says: July 7, 2020 at 2:58 pm GMT
@No Friend Of The Devil to attack Iran. They are totally despised by ordinary Iranians. They are a cult with something in common with the Cambodian Pol Pot way of life. Very dangerous people. They have absolutely nothing in common with the Taliban who are trying to liberate their country from the Americans.

MEK: Who is this Iranian ‘cult’ backed by the US?

Steve from Detroit , says: July 7, 2020 at 3:08 pm GMT
@Alfred

I’m not joking, I initially thought that was Michael Jackson.

ImaBotKnot , says: July 7, 2020 at 3:08 pm GMT
@Gidoutahere ld bring to an end a fledgling democracy and a return to the Cold War days.

“In return, Maxwell’s massive debts would be wiped out by a grateful Kryuchkov, [Vladimir Kryuchkov, head of the KGB] who planned to replace Gorbachev. The KGB chief wanted Maxwell to use the Lady Ghislaine, named after Maxwell’s daughter, as a meeting place between the Russian plotters, Mossad chiefs and Israel’s top politicians. ? Apparently the Rothschilds/Israel Deep State wanted Gorbachev or Yeltsin.

Events are so tangled and interconnected, as Ghislaine is still a Israel Deep State operative.

annamaria , says: July 7, 2020 at 3:15 pm GMT
@anonymous ease the MIC and the Lobby. It is not for nothing that Rice was called “the Typhoid Mary of the Obama-era foreign policy.”
“Her religion is Christianity.” Oh my. What church has been allowing the war criminal Susan Rice to attend religious service next to decent people? This church of anti-Christians: https://bluebicyclebooks.com/2019/10/13/former-u-n-ambassador-susan-rice-at-grace-church-cathedral-mon-nov-18-7-pm/ Grace Church Cathedral, 98 Wentworth St., downtown Charleston.
Trinity , says: July 7, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT

Funny, I don’t see White Russians hating themselves or other Whites for being proud of their heritage.

Funny, I don’t see White Russians tearing down monuments and statues or desecrating their flag.

Funny, I don’t see White Russians wanting their country to be invaded by hordes of hostile nonwhite WMD.

Funny, I don’t see White Russians apologizing or backing down from identifying themselves as a Christian nation.

Oh, I get it. This is why the so-called, “Deep State” and “Neo-Cons aka Neo-Commies” hate Russia so much. I get it now. It burns (((their))) collective asses that there are actually some largely homogeneous and traditional White nations still around who aren’t willingly accepting their own genocide or apologizing for being evil White racists. My gawd, this is my epiphany, this is MY AWAKENING ( shout out to Dr. Duke’s EXCELLENT BOOK), now I know why Russia is so vilified by (((our media.))) (((Our media))) is racist against Whites, and (((they))) hate the idea that a traditional White Christian nation still exists, especially a powerful nation like Russia. Oh dear, how could I be so gullible not to see this one. I’m Irish American and I am told I must hate the Russkies to be patriotic by other patriotic Israel Firsters.

neutral , says: July 7, 2020 at 3:41 pm GMT

It has to do with two things, and only those two things, all other rubbish about “human rights”, “international law”, blah blah blah, is propaganda meant for the common man.

1) Russia is white, that means it can easily be demonized and is demonized.
2) The jews that fled Russia are an especially virulent strain of the jew, their hatred for Russia has few equal.

Mefobills , says: July 7, 2020 at 3:51 pm GMT
@Jake http://canadianpatriot.org/origins-of-deep-state-part2/
http://canadianpatriot.org/what-is-the-fabian-society-and-to-what-end-was-it-created/

Note that the bad actors were anglo-zionists of their day, grabbing with usury. Their understanding of sin was already perverted in that era.

The sin nature of the Jew has spread and become a sect within Christianity, hence Judeo-Christianity and Zionist-Christianity

barr , says: July 7, 2020 at 3:53 pm GMT

Russia is killing US soldiers. Trump’s response is a shameful dereliction of duty
Michael H Fuchs

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/07/trump-russia-us-soldiers-afghanistan-putin
seems that BBC CNN NYT and Guardian -all are taking their cues from the coteries of Hillary Biden Cotton Rubio.

Agent76 , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:00 pm GMT

Jul 7, 2020 IMF PONZI scheme in Ukraine continues BLM Ponzi scheme boomerang

https://www.youtube.com/embed/NMFBly-o0Ug?feature=oembed

endthefed , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:01 pm GMT

Maybe someone has already stated the obvious. Regardless of the validity (or lack of) a bounty program; it’d be real hard to affect US troops if there were no US troops in Afghanistan.

Jeff Davis , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:05 pm GMT
@anonymous

Intel community horseshit.

Curmudgeon , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:16 pm GMT
@Erzberger ica and the Balkans.
Fourth, had the Admiral Canaris led traitors not been hiding munitions or sending them to the wrong place, the Soviets may not have recovered even with the US re-supply.

If there is something to yawn about, it is the WWII narrative is tiresome. Stalin wasn’t a “good guy”, and neither were Churchill or Roosevelt. The reality is that it took the “world” to defeat Germany. The Italians were of no help, and the Japanese were as much a drain as a resource to Germany. Germany was destroyed to allow the advancement of Marxism, which had already embedded itself in the UK and US.

DaveE , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:18 pm GMT
@Patagonia Man

‘The US has one political party – the business party, with 2 wings.’

Those two ‘wings’ are the Globalists and the Zionists. The Democrats and Republicans are just interns looking for a summer job.

Bill Jones , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:20 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

“If they were willing to interfere in our election and engage in political murder in allied states”

No you fool, we’re talking about Russia, not Israel.

Desert Fox , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:25 pm GMT

The zionists are pissed that Russia has saved Syria from the zionist mercenaries aka AL CIADA aka ISIS, which are creations the CIA and the MOSSAD and MI6 and NATO and so the anti Russian propaganda, pouring out of the zionist owned MSM.

Alfred , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:31 pm GMT
@mike99588

Obviously “we”, various US investors and the US taxpayer still gave the Soviets too much stuff, that propelled USSR economic success claims for the next 20 years

The Russians paid for all the “giving” with gold. Kindly stop repeating lies. Even the British went almost bankrupt repaying the Americans for their “generosity”.

It will be interesting to see how the Russians will treat the Americans when the USA experiences feudalism. I suspect the Russians will be far more generous than the Americans deserve.

annamaria , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:35 pm GMT
@neutral kids.
Hilary Clinton has been a very effective butcher of Libyan and Syrian population at large; young children and pregnant women were the greatest victims of Clinton’s subhuman policies.
Susan Rice was good at promoting mass slaughter in Syria, and, along with H. Clinton, S. Rice should be credited with the slave markets in Libya.
Nuland-Kagan helped to make Ukraine into the poorest country in Europe, where zionists and neo-nazis found a complete mutual understanding. So much for holobiz squealing.

What’s wrong with the US? How come that the US society produced these monstrosities?

Harold Smith , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:38 pm GMT
@barr

Being that America kills other countries’ soldiers (and civilians) all the time, why can’t Russia (or any other country) do the same thing? What goes around comes around, right?

DaveE , says: July 7, 2020 at 4:49 pm GMT

Some things (Russiagate) are just too silly to bother with.

I agree – except that I’m getting quite a chuckle these days at the sheer, utter desperation of the “Russia did it”, “Saddam did it”, “Bin Laden did it”, “Assad did it”, etc. etc. etc. noise from the crowd who DID do it.

Shlomo is cornered and exposed – and that IS worth the subscription fee to watch, FINALLY.

anonymous [245] • Disclaimer , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:08 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

Please at least proofread your gibberish. Some of it might even make sense.

Wally , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:29 pm GMT
@Alfred

said:
“Anyone with half a brain should know that the Americans are in Afghanistan because the Americans control the world trade in narcotics.”

– Yawn. I’ve heard that before, but have seen no proof.

– So use your “half a brain” and give us the proof.

Sorry, Hollywood movies are not proof.

No doubt you’re one of those ‘No Blood For Oil’ types that Zionists love so much.

Trinity , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:35 pm GMT

“There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states.” General (((Wesley Clark)))

Obviously a patriotic “American” General like Mr. Clark has no problem with the racist state of Israel.

Just another COHENcidence? Nah, after finding about “6 million” COHENcidences you start thinking for yourself, stop dropping the idea that “conspiracy theories” are “conspiracies” and start realizing you have been fed a load of horseshit for a century and counting. We don’t have a Russia problem but Houston, we do have a problem. Wonder what that problem is?

Zarathustra , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:35 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon

And we have to believe you? {You are a real jerk.)

Mr. Cocktail Party Talk , says: July 7, 2020 at 5:48 pm GMT
@Tom Welsh te Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard, at a time when that meant something. He also wrote (presumably without the assistance a ghost writer) some 40-odd books, as Tucker Carlson pointed out in a recent monologue.

I think by any standard, these achievements indicate a fairly high level of intellectual skills.

Whether or not he was a nutcase is another matter, and not mutually exclusive of his having considerable intellectual skills. A good place to start on this question is to read what H.L. Mencken wrote about him.

And it is said that Roosevelt is included in the Mt. Rushmore tableau because he was friends with Borglum the sculptor.

Really No Shit , says: July 7, 2020 at 6:31 pm GMT
@Jake

You retort:

“The Brit Empire was the Anglo-Zionist Empire Part 1. America is the Anglo-Zionist Empire Part 2.”

I rest my case!

Alfred , says: July 7, 2020 at 6:43 pm GMT
@Trinity of different nations. But they live in harmony. Their common language is Russian. When Putin goes to visit the Dagestan, he tells them that their men are brave and their women beautiful. They love it. And they love Putin for it. Sadly, Google and Youtube seem to have cleaned up this stuff.

Here is some compensatory eye-candy:

Iceland’s Miss Universe has her Siberian roots revealed

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: July 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm GMT
@Jake

The current news that the Brutish govt has approved new arms sales to Saudia because Saudi mass killings of Yemeni civilians are all “isolated incidents” so it’s quite proper to sell them the means seems to prove your point.

ThreeCranes , says: July 7, 2020 at 6:58 pm GMT
@Zarathustra

“(You are a real jerk)”. Also sprach Zarathustra.

And this is your idea of a sound argument? Nietzsche would hide his face in shame.

Curmudgeon , says: July 7, 2020 at 7:21 pm GMT
@Zarathustra tinue to ignore the truth.

https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=9780898753974&i=stripbooks&linkCode=qs

No. 6 (page 15) from November 4, 1941:

“Your decision, Mr President, to grant the Soviet Union an interest-free loan to the value of $1,000,000,000 to meet deliveries of munitions and raw materials to the Soviet Union is accepted by the Soviet Government with heartfelt gratitude as vital aid to the Soviet Union in its tremendous and onerous struggle against our common enemy — bloody Hitlerism.” (here)

Trinity , says: July 7, 2020 at 7:38 pm GMT
@Alfred

Iceland is looking better each and every day especially from behind enemy lines in Negro occupied JawJah.

Anon [127] • Disclaimer , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:13 pm GMT
@Alfred

The US is in central Asia for much more than that, it’s about blocking China and Russia, as well as partially cutting off Iran on it’s eastern flank. Iran is almost surrounded by US bases. The US wants to have more control point/choke point control over continental transport routes in Asia. (One such prize would be the Dzungarian Gate, but that’s a little too ambitious for the moment. ) Afghanistan does have resources, but it would be a target without them, as it is so valuable as a (potential) transit corridor.

Antiwar7 , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:19 pm GMT
@Robert Dolan

Totally agree. So that gives an estimate of how many people are intelligent.

Larchmonter420 , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:45 pm GMT
@mcohen

Meena talk to me

The most intelligent person ever walked on earth. A walking taking genius like Einstein on earth!

Ace , says: July 7, 2020 at 8:48 pm GMT
@Emily ulture/history/item/4691-china-betrayed-into-communism" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4691-china-betrayed-into-communism">Marshall’s doing all in his power to ensure the victory of Mao over Nationalist forces in 1949

U.S. civilian leaders seem to swoon over enemy sanctuaries for some strange reason. Kill U.S. troops in theater. No problemo but pinky swear we won’t go after you if you go back across the border.

God bless Richard Nixon and his destruction of NVA base areas in Cambodia. Thereafter, enemy activity ceased around my camp and all through MR IV.

Zarathustra , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:02 pm GMT
@ThreeCranes

He claims to read the minds of dead people.
That was kind of too much for me.

Moi , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:28 pm GMT
@Richard B

The US is a Judeocracy

Moi , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:30 pm GMT
@Milton

Anybody who believes what “our” government or the MSM tells us an idiot (and/or a regular American).

Truth3 , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:36 pm GMT

Thank you again to Phil Giraldi, for your tireless work to expose the evil with healthy doses of TRUTH.

Moi , says: July 7, 2020 at 9:36 pm GMT
@Ray Caruso

There was no need to qualify Americans by saying American conservatives. Ignorance, stupidity and violence are like apple pie for us.

Emily , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:00 pm GMT
@Wally

Reading your comment, Wally, I find your name extremely apt.
None so blind as those who refuse to even read.
You can take a horse to water but cannot make him drink.
You can put all the proof necessary but if you refuse to check it out – well – stay a ‘ Wally’.
I guess you subscribe to the philosophy of ‘Ignorance is bliss’.

Bill Jones , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:02 pm GMT
@Agent76

I found this interview on Putin and what, how and why he’s setting up a post Putin power structure interesting

https://www.spreaker.com/user/tomluongo/episode-16-alexander-mercouris-and-whats

Would that there was his like in the West.

Erzberger , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:08 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon Wehrmacht, the Warsaw Rising they so strongly encouraged would not have happened, and not have led to the disaster it was for the city and its inhabitants

“Stalin wasn’t a “good guy”, and neither were Churchill or Roosevelt. “ no objections

“The reality is that it took the “world” to defeat Germany. “ Much of Europe fought on the side of Germany because they realized that Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt weren’t good guys, and they had nothing to look forward to but a horrible peace in case of their victory. Why do you think the EC got together so quickly after the war?

Erzberger , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:20 pm GMT
@Erzberger

Also: the sheer idiocy of claiming that poor little “Britain and the Commonwealth” stood alone against the German monster state! Do you ever look at a map? at human and natural resources? This should have been a turkey shoot if your side had not been as lacking in courage as it was, and as incompetent. And if the rest of Europe wasn’t to a very large extent in the German camp, as it is today

Michael888 , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:29 pm GMT

Scott Ritter has a separate article at consortiumnews noting that the Russians have been giving money to the Taliban (AID) to fight Americans, the CIA and their ISIS proxies since 2014. Surely Obama and/or Biden would have stopped these Russian “bounties” if they were important.

EliteCommInc. , says: July 7, 2020 at 10:56 pm GMT

“Please at least proofread your gibberish. Some of it might even make sense.”

The executive in the WH has agreed that Russia sabotaged the US election process and engaged murder and attempted in states of our allies.

There is no turning the clock bank unless Russia makes some gesture of amelioration — there behavior constitutes an attack on the US. As such they are active enemies of the US.

Unfortunately anyone seeking some manner of Russian love fest — should probably forget it. Whether the executive signed for politically expedient reasons simply doesn’t matter.

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EliteCommInc. , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:17 pm GMT

“If you believe any of the Skripals nonsense and the MH-17 false flag, you are either gullible or a troll.”

Uhhhh, wholly irrelevant. My position in opposition to the contend that Russia sabotaged the US election was vehemently dubious. My comments at the time make my position abundantly clear. The evidence for the case against Russia in the US simply no there. But at the end of the day, the executive choose to go the other direction. That is unfortunate. But it was also a sign of things to come concerning the executives ability to stand.

And my comments today make that very clear. Your knee-jerk response that I believe what the executive signed onto is incorrect. I knew that his choice destroyed a good deal of his foreign poliy admonition to reduce tensions.

But that was his choice mistake or not he made that choice and as I expressed at the time — we would have to live by it.

——————————————–

In fact, if I were on the opposition, I would like nothing better for the executive to start behaving as though the intel report doesn’t exist. Because I would pull out that report with his signature and commence calling him a weakling, indecisive, and a danger to the US — who is to toothless to hold Russia accountable for her acts of terror in the US and Europe.

I would then commence a campaign explaining why the executive wants to decrease troops ion Europe — he wants to cede our allies over to Russian domination —

But then I am not on the opposition. It was a mistake on the facts for the executive to sign that report for which there was little to no evidence supporting it.

Now if you have a response that gives the president some manner of face saving as he makes nice with a country that overthrew a US election in the US, and engaged in murder and attempted murder — have at it.
—————

Minus some kind of amelioration by the Russians or an about face by the current executive (and tat would really be interesting) no peace and love and understanding can move forward. I can say with certainty

Russia, Pres. Putin has no intention of apologizing for something they most likely did not do regarding US elections.

Though I am sure he will once again have reason to chuckle.

Those of you angry, frustrated, irritated . . . and yada I suggest you take that up with the WH They made that choice.

But by all means name call as opposed to deal with the obvious reality.

anonymous [245] • Disclaimer , says: July 7, 2020 at 11:25 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

Or not.

Hibernian , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:03 am GMT
@Emily

You do understand that the US and the UK have been separate sovereigns since 1776, don’t you?

Art , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:28 am GMT

Trump should put on his big boy pants, tell the “Russia Russia Russia” types to go to hell – and schedule a meeting with Putin.

Let the “conservatives” and Jew media poop on themselves.

The voters will love it.

Neoconned , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:36 am GMT

I find it ironic given that during the Soviet era it was those on the left who laughed at Republicans for being Sovietphobes.

But later now its the neolib media pushing the identity politics narrative that has dusted off the tired old Cold War Russia chicken little stuff.

Mefobills , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:38 am GMT

Russia-baiters may also be upset by new Constitution changes in Russia.

https://russia-insider.com/en/new-constitution-means-russias-political-stability-strong-while-west-sinks/ri30819

EliteCommInc. , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:43 am GMT

“Or not.’

The US can not make nice with Russia until Russia makes amends for sabotaging the US election and engage in acts of murder or attempted in murder in the sovereign states of our allies. So says the executive in the WH. In fact he says that Pres. Putin ordered the sabotage and murder.

I think you understand.

There is no way for the current executive to move forward with better relations with Russia without extracting some admission and compensation for sad acts without reaping serious political damage — I would say a loss of credibility, but that is already in question – sadly.

AnonFromTN , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:44 am GMT

Interestingly, whoever invented this lie about Russia and Taliban not only did not know the realities of Afghanistan, but was stupid enough not to consult someone who knows. There is no such thing as a bank transfer in Afghanistan. It exists in the Middle Ages (democracy, my foot!), so the only form of money that functions there is cash, in hand, in a case, or in a bag, depending on the amount.

Art , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:50 am GMT

Serious questions – does the CIA run the State Department and US foreign policy?

Did Pompeo just move the CIA’s agenda to the State Department, when he became Secretary of State?

Who sets US foreign policy – the CIA and the Pentagon? Why are a spy agency and generals running world policy – what good can come of that?

Is Trump the tail on the US foreign policy dog? It seems as though, those two do what they want – not what Trump and his voters desire.

joun , says: July 8, 2020 at 1:23 am GMT

The USA is quickly going to find itself in a corner. There is no realistic path away from a total confrontation with Russia. No politician will dare dissent. I hope Russia is prepared for this.

dimples , says: July 8, 2020 at 1:45 am GMT
@Beavertales

“The deplorables they despise the most are flyover Americans who go to church or who serve in the military. These are the people they think are stupid and easily manipulated by wild tales and false flags.”

Well let’s face it, they usually are. These are the milch cows the MIC relies on to keep its funding secure.

Bob Gwen , says: July 8, 2020 at 1:49 am GMT

Everyone knows that Americans are the most dumbfuck stupid people on the planet. It is more shocking to think that propaganda would NOT affect most of the population.

gsjackson , says: July 8, 2020 at 2:27 am GMT
@Emily ass="comment-text">

Anecdotally, when my family lived in England in a village near London in 1957-58 we were treated like royalty. I’ve always assumed it’s because we were the beloved Yanks who saved Britain’s behind in the war. That doesn’t undercut what you say about the underlying resentment, but my clear impression and that of my parents was that the post-war Brits loved them some Yanks.

Another anecdote, this one not so feel-good. In 1956 we lived on Lakenheath AFB in the UK. During the Suez crisis the base was on full stand-by alert in case we had to go to war with Britain. Seriously.

anon [327] • Disclaimer , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:11 am GMT

In these tough times of toilet paper,
the NYT and WaPo are most useful.

The ink is sustenance for roaches;
the paper is bedding, blanket, headrest,
and ass wipe for the homeless.

Both are well known virus carriers.

Derer , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:33 am GMT
@Patagonia Man re in Washington is beyond repair. The despicable sinister schemes, backstabbing, lies, fake facts in a quest for power has nothing to do with democracy but criminality.

It is time to galvanize support for direct voting…enabled by evolving technology. That process would eliminate:
@ need for electing deceiving proxies that always betray their promises to represent the public interest.
@ Washington proxies making decisions…should be reduced to debating issues.
@ the special interest groups, lobbies self-serving agenda.
@ sending our young people dying on far away places in unnecessary wars.

Wizard of Oz , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:48 am GMT
@Patagonia Man

When was Paul Craig Roberts last an insider? Do you think him capable of picking cover stories generically, that is without relevant particular knowledge of inside stuff?

And you seem to claim to have that ability to pick a cover story. So…. how? What are the generic indicia?

anonymous [157] • Disclaimer , says: July 8, 2020 at 4:50 am GMT
@annamaria cyclebooks.com/2019/10/13/former-u-n-ambassador-susan-rice-at-grace-church-cathedral-mon-nov-18-7-pm/">https://bluebicyclebooks.com/2019/10/13/former-u-n-ambassador-susan-rice-at-grace-church-cathedral-mon-nov-18-7-pm/

Oh gee, your point would make one think that no other pagan Christian Church has produced such mass murderers, or in fact, even greater ones… which would be ludicrous as per history, yeah?

The real source of such satanic evil should be traced to Whitevil (including their Judevil cousins of course) supremacy and their in-house “niggas,” such as the witch you mention.

Neoconned , says: July 8, 2020 at 4:57 am GMT
@Alfred

Looks like a lot of the blonds here except the ones here date thugs and run around til they’re 24ish from dude to dude til they discover the joys of pills & meth and take the full bath into the toilet….

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: July 8, 2020 at 9:08 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse political dancing around and inventing another culprit as criminals always do, successfully disappeared them. Don’t hope they will ever appear again.

And this is the Brutish government that killed another Russian by polonium poisoning and of course invented another culprit, again as criminals always do.

And is now selling weapons for mass killing to Saudia says mass killings are merely incidentals.

Consistently, modern Britain makes Nazi Germany look angelic. Consistently.

These are not Christian moral values. What religion or ritual system or control system acts like this once it takes charge?

anonymous [245] • Disclaimer , says: July 8, 2020 at 10:01 am GMT
@Wizard of Oz The same person also fuzzes up threads by pretending to be more than one commenter, the technique known as “sock puppetry.” See under Mr. Derbyshire’s February 15, 2019, article comment ## 28, 42, 43, 44, 68, 122, where he/she/they got sloppy also posting as “Anon[436].”

Over time, Wizard has emerged as sympathetic to the international bureaucracy of the Establishment of which he may even be a (former?) part, the type of “diplomat” exemplified by Mrs. Nuland’s Ivy League cookie caddy in Ukraine. He broke character a while back, showing emotional hostility to China. But who can be sure? Among this website’s oddest, sophisticatedly trollish commenters.

anonymous [157] • Disclaimer , says: July 8, 2020 at 10:45 am GMT
@No Friend Of The Devil

It does not make sense either, since the MEK ( Mujahudeen ) is a twisted Shiite cult Iranian, and Al Qaeda is Arabic and twisted Sunni cult.

Both of those cults share the same patron… the pagan Christian cult of Whitevil terrorists.

The patron must be destroyed, if we are to destroy other terrorist cults, and for this wretched earth to have any hope of peace.

Patagonia Man , says: July 8, 2020 at 11:25 am GMT
@Emily

You will find that Roosevelt privately was giving both the UK & France assurances that if either were attacked, the US would come to their aid well before 1938 – even tho’ US multinational corporations were still trading with the NSDAP in Germany well into 1941.

Talk about walking both sides of the street!

geokat62 , says: July 8, 2020 at 12:30 pm GMT

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=true&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1280562342099480576&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fpgiraldi%2Frussia-baiting-is-the-only-game-in-town%2F&theme=light&widgetsVersion=9066bb2%3A1593540614199&width=500px

Wizard of Oz , says: July 8, 2020 at 1:42 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse

As you can’t even get the Julian Assange bit right I don’t suppose it’s any use asking you to justify your bald assertions or even flesh them our with detail. Let alone explain when Britain became “modern” and ceased to be the country which is rightly credited with ending theslave trade and led the way in abolition of slavery.

Yes, several governments have treated Assange contemptibly but he is remanded without bail pending the resumption of the extradition hearing, not imprisoned for life in cruel or any conditions. How can you waste readers time with such garbage?

Wizard of Oz , says: July 8, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT
@geokat62

How much credit do you give to someone who sloppily uses the term “terrorist in that context referring to the equovalent of precision bombing in contrast to area bombing without precise aiming?

Alfred , says: July 8, 2020 at 2:02 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

Sorry if I misunderstood you.

I am really not qualified to comment on the internal wrangling of the various factions in the USA. I look at their foreign policy actions, not proclamations, with much greater interest.

Alfred , says: July 8, 2020 at 2:06 pm GMT
@gsjackson

Oversexed Overpaid and Over Here: The American Airmen In Britain DVD (Timereel)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/NERTDbNmdv0?feature=oembed

Wizard of Oz , says: July 8, 2020 at 2:14 pm GMT
@Erzberger ut down war industry was started by Germany, arguably in Belgium in August 1814 but certainly in December 1914 when German cruisers indiscriminately shelled three North East England towns. An aberration? No. It was followed by Zepellin raids on London and the use of Big Bertha against Paris. Then, what message and implicit set of rules do you find in the destruction of Guernica? And many civilians were killed in the bombing of Warsaw. Even the virtually symbolic bombing of Berlin was a response to bombs dropped on London, the only point in your favour there being the fact that those bombs were probably not meant to be dropped on London.
Anon [427] • Disclaimer , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT
@anonymous

How intriguing. Not having your obsessive interest in warning about Wizard of Oz I have failed, at my level of diligence, to find any evidence at all of emotional hostility to China or indeed, about anything much except perhaps the hypocritical mistreatment of individuals like Julian Assange by governments. Can you help?

geokat62 , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:05 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz

How much credit do you give to someone who sloppily uses the term “terrorist

The Wizard of Pedantry obsessed about the proper usage of a term, while the offending party is committing acts of war, lol.

Franklin Ryckaert , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:21 pm GMT
@geokat62

quod erat expectandum .

Franklin Ryckaert , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:26 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz

Alright then, call it “precision terrorism” (an Israeli specialty). Will that be acceptable to your hasbara boss?

Trinity , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:27 pm GMT

The Germans couldn’t believe how inept the average French, American, and British soldier really were, even British described how frightened many of the America soldiers, most barely old enough to shave, appeared. The German was appalled at the physical fitness of the British soldier as well, describing them as weak and frail for the most part. Here is the truth, Western Europe and America fought the German B team at best, often these Germans were little more than schoolboys in some cases. Everyone knows that the bulk of the serious fighting was done on the Eastern Front. Think if tiny Germany hadn’t had to fight on two fronts against what must have seemed like half the world. It doesn’t speak well that it took so many years to defeat a country as small as Germany, a country that was at an extreme disadvantage. The average Western soldier, be it a Frenchmen, a Brit or an American was nothing special to say the least. This isn’t a I hate America thing, but merely the truth. The average German soldier was head and shoulders above the average Brit or America G.I.

Franklin Ryckaert , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:40 pm GMT
@anonymous

Wizard of Oz = Wizard of Iz.

Grahamsno(G64) , says: July 8, 2020 at 3:55 pm GMT

I’m surprised that this hasn’t been posted yet.

https://www.rt.com/russia/494077-nyt-taliban-gru-evidence/

Finally, seven days after its ‘scoop’, the NYT ran another story on the subject, entitled ‘New Administration Memo Seeks to Foster Doubts About Suspected Russian Bounties’, which was published on July 3 and buried in the bowels of the paper.

Its opening paragraphs sought to back up the original story, claiming that an intelligence memo had said the “… CIA and the National Counterterrorism Centre had assessed with medium confidence – meaning creditable sources and plausible, but falling short of near certainty – that a unit of the Russian military service, known as the GRU, offered the bounties.”

It was only in the last paragraph that the real story – that there was no story – was revealed: “The agency did intercept data of financial transactions that provide circumstantial support for the detainee’s account, but the agency does not have explicit evidence that the money was bounty payments.”

So the blood libel lasted a week!

One of the greatest things about the Trump Presidency was to carve the ‘Fake News’ meme on the MSM’s forehead.

annamaria , says: July 8, 2020 at 4:03 pm GMT
@Ace

The US has its comeuppance in the locally-produced “democracy on the march.” The jolly game of regime change is now played in American towns.

Cheney the Traitor and Obama the Fraud are only marginally different. The US is run by financiers and war criminals.

annamaria , says: July 8, 2020 at 4:19 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

“…there behavior constitutes an attack on the US”

Mister/Miss, since when the zionized Congress of the US serves the citizenship of the US? Thank you for reminding (and you do this regularly) of the unfortunate fact that the US is an occupied territory and the US Congress is a nest of liars, war profiteers, and rabid zionists.

Les Wexler, Ben Cardin, Chuck Schumer, and Clintons have inflicted more harm to the US than any Maria Butin and such. And don’t forget Dick Cheney and Co, the committed traitors and profiteers by any means.

annamaria , says: July 8, 2020 at 4:20 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

Skripals! Well. There was also the Steel dossier and Browder/Magnitsky Act. You certainly have a weak spot for bad forgeries.

Wizard of Oz , says: July 8, 2020 at 4:29 pm GMT
@geokat62

In my experience people who are sloppy with language are sloppy with thinking. I thought you might have had similar relevant experience unlike most commenters here. For example, if you were employing a director of research or even just a junior researcher for a committee of inquiry would you not rate their careful use of language as a qualification? You want to be able to rely on the facts they turn up and their reasoning underlying proposed conclusions do you not?

Wizard of Oz , says: July 8, 2020 at 4:35 pm GMT
@Franklin Ryckaert

I am content to know that you don’t read my comments and are as sloppy and inaccurate in calling me hasbara as the person who called destroying an Iranian nuclear facility “terrorist”. To extend my last comment, you wouldn’t even be on the long list for assisting any inquiry I chaired.

Derer , says: July 8, 2020 at 5:35 pm GMT
@Ace

Do you know at least, what were you fighting for in Vietnam? How Vietnam threatened US shores?
Do not tell me fighting communist ideology, because the same Nixon and Kissinger that bombed Cambodia civilians embraced that communist ideology in China with grave consequences. We have lunatics in Washington and it is time for direct voting – majority rules.

Erzberger , says: July 8, 2020 at 5:48 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz as right in the sense that despite the British and French declaration of war, not much happened – other than the naval blockade and the lame French invasion of the Saar region. Neither Britain nor France had the courage to follow up on their war declaration, for fear of unpopular casualties or further destruction of land and people (France), and both hoped to gain a cheap victory by starving out the German war effort. Had they actually opened a second front in the fall of 39, the Germans would have collapsed, and the war would have been over before Christmas.

The GErman victory over FRance surprised everyone, including the Germans

Curmudgeon , says: July 8, 2020 at 5:59 pm GMT
@Erzberger https://barnesreview.org/product/the-stroop-report/

I think the EC got together so quickly because the US wanted to impose their economic model on Europe with the illusion of control. The Marshall Plan was unraveling as the swindle it was, and the EC was the answer to keep up the illusion. While the UK was in on the scam, they were the front for the Americans, as the idiot Churchill had pissed away the Empire to buy his 15 minutes of fame.
Once the shooting starts there are no good guys. Like all wars, WWII was an economic war. The German economic system could not be allowed to succeed, it was catching on.

Derer , says: July 8, 2020 at 6:00 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

You must must have quite a deteriorated mind when Russia can influence your vote. Tell me the logistics of the process. You must have equally deteriorated mind believing what CNN, MSNBC, WP or NYT and others dishonest outfits tell you – they are a propaganda machine for a small unpatriotic parasitic group.

anon [178] • Disclaimer , says: July 8, 2020 at 6:09 pm GMT

There is a hierarchy in the blame game . Trump isn’t on the top . If he were, the vile Democrats would be asking review and discussion by broader media ,Dept of Justice and Treasury either to discredit or confirm the following story

in–“Venezuela’s interim government wants access to funds confiscated in the US from corrupt officials, saying it belongs to the Venezuelan people. But US officials appear to have other plans. The Treasury Department diverted $601 million last year from its forfeiture fund to help build President Trump’s border wall. (Leer en español) https://www.univision.com/univision-news/latin-america/legal-battle-over-venezuelas-looted-billions-heats-up Since the United States initiated a coup attempt against Venezuela’s elected leftist government in January 2019, up to $24 billion worth of Venezuelan public assets have been seized by foreign countries, primarily by Washington and member states of the European Union. President Donald Trump’s administration has used at least $601 million of that looted Venezuelan money to fund construction of its border wall with Mexico, according to government documents first reviewed by Univision Univision reviewed US congressional records and court documents and found that the Trump administration tapped into $601 million of the Treasury Department’s “forfeiture fund” to supplement the wall constructio https://thegrayzone.com/2020/06/29/trump-stolen-venezuelan-money-border-wall-mexico/

Reason no-one is doing it is because hating Trump could always be swapped for worshipping something more sinister and idiotic .

We would have heard a similar story only if Russia extracted something like this from Ukraine or Libya .

Derer , says: July 8, 2020 at 6:10 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc.

I suggest you seek treatment for you pathological hate. Russia want to be a friend in peaceful coexistence but it is sinister players in Washington that constantly need/create enemies to build military industrial complexes instead of consumer goods which are supplied from China.

Curmudgeon , says: July 8, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT
@Trinity

In Iceland she would not be especially good looking, just another face in the crowd.

EliteCommInc. , says: July 8, 2020 at 6:22 pm GMT

“Sorry if I misunderstood you.”

I have been a supported of the current executive before he considered running. And his choice to agree with the intel report and more was a fairly tough pill to swallow. As it turns it was but one of many.

No I found the intel dubious. And I think the executive could have challenged in a manner that did not call the CIA and other agencies DIA, etc. or damage his ability to curtail his policy agenda. But having signed — he essentially states Pres Putin and the Russians are active enemies of the US given that scenario

one would draw on our behavior in Afghanistan hen we supported the Taliban with weapons to kill Russian soldiers —-

tit for tat foreign policy is not new.

Wizard of Oz , says: July 8, 2020 at 6:32 pm GMT
@Trinity fought more effectively and efficiently than the novice American soldiers. Then there were technical factors which were naturally advantageous to the more experienced military. For example the famous 88mm anti-aircraft gin turned anti-tsnk gun was never matched by the Allies (I thin) and the German tactics for its use were also superior. Germany, though less than the Soviet Union had another advantage over Britain and France. It’s population went on growing fast for a generations beyond the end of high growth in Britain and, especially, France. For example there were 2 million Germans born in 1913 to provide young men for the army in the 30s.
Z-man , says: July 8, 2020 at 7:18 pm GMT
@Derer

Yes, as I’ve said repeatedly, the ‘sinister players’, the Judaic NEOCON cabal want to keep America and Russia apart mainly for their hate of Christianity and gentiles, and try to destroy them both.

Erzberger , says: July 8, 2020 at 7:54 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon uld be a return to what was indeed Hitler’s scheme of continental autarky and a more even distribution of wealth, and a democratic model much more in line with the Prussian model, the latter bearing significant resemblance with the Chinese Mandarin system. The Chinese Communists are really doing nothing different than the old emperors running a meritocracy rather than an idiocracy. Western democracies, esp the US, with their insane and horrendously expensive election circuses tend to achieve the latter. I hear Kanye West is running for president now. The problem with China is not Communism but their adoption of Western state-capitalism.
Buck Ransom , says: July 8, 2020 at 9:24 pm GMT
@Art ry in WW2.

I am sure President Putin would be delighted to draw international attention to this new symbol of a Christian resurgence in Russia. President Trump would appreciate the splendor of such a backdrop for his meeting with another major head of state. Many of the Evangelicals among Trumps’s base would be gobsmacked to learn that Mr. Putin is not running a godless, soulless Communist hellstate. And many of people in the US State Department and the rest of the Swamp would utterly sh*t their pants.

A win all around. Maybe the President will do it.

Ace , says: July 8, 2020 at 9:38 pm GMT
@annamaria

True dat. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the exceptionals.

And Cheney’s daughter burns the midnight oil in order to keep the pot boiling in Afghanistan. MUST have U.S. troops there to oppose “terrorists” with AKs.

mike99588 , says: July 8, 2020 at 9:55 pm GMT

NYT is a rental rag that always favored Soviets and now CCP, why cite it anymore?

The Russia distraction distracts from Piglosi, Feinstein, Biden, Bushes, congress and corps etc etc being in bed$ with China. With the side benefit of Russian alienation from the US driving Russian goods into the China slaughter house on the cheap.

Ace , says: July 8, 2020 at 10:08 pm GMT
@Derer pants over Assad’s or Gaddafi’s purported authoritarianisms like they’re skunk pie. Eeeww!

You’re right that we have lunatics in Washington but I don’t think “direct voting” is the answer. Devolution plus draconian anti-trust enforcement. crucifixion of the Antifa filth, massive deportations, ending black privilege, brutally honest debate over black failure, draconian anti-vote fraud operations, and naming and neutralizing the role and power of organized Jewry and its wealth seem more likely to get us back on track. Please be more creative then “majority rule.”

Ace , says: July 8, 2020 at 10:26 pm GMT
@Anon

Jesus. “Choke points” can be dealt with from afar. It takes a while to rebuild railroad bridges. The concept of the Russian and Iranian enemies has worn a little thin these last few days. It’s just assumed that Russia is a malignant force just as it’s universally assumed that “special sauce” is the way to go on McDonalds’ hamburgers. I accept neither proposition.

I want troops on the U.S. southern border not on the “flanks” of Iran or policing “transit corridors” here and there but that’s just me.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: July 8, 2020 at 10:41 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz a refuses to extradite a woman to Britain for actual homicide. Zero grounds to hold him.

From their political standpoint the safest way out is for Assange to simply die in the maximum-security prison, so the extradition proceedings can simply be dropped. All problems solved.

So, he is in actual fact in prison for life.

Never mind that Britain did something virtuous in the distant past. Today is today. And notice that serial murderers can be friendly and courteous between murders but that nice behaviour doesn’t exonerate them for the murders. Nazi Germany looks angelic relative to the Britain of today.

EliteCommInc. , says: July 8, 2020 at 11:13 pm GMT

“The Gulf of Tonkin “event” was a lie, so there’s that.”

No. It in reality, it was a series of confused messages from the patrol boat. But was used to support a defense of S. Vietnam — the matter is of no consequence. The US was going to defend S. Vietnamese sovereignty regardless of the Tonkin event.

geokat62 , says: July 8, 2020 at 11:38 pm GMT

Must watch interview…

DAVID VS. GOLIATH: GAB’S ANDREW TORBA TELLS RICK HIS BATTLE TO COMPETE WITH TWITTER

https://www.trunews.com/#/stream/david-vs-goliath-gab-s-andrew-torba-tells-rick-his-battle-to-compete-with-twitter

Description:

Today on TruNews Rick interviews Andrew Torba, the founder of Gab, a free speech alternative to the tyrants at Twitter. They discuss how the Silicon Valley elite use their satanic bias to silence opposition and have a mission to purge Christianity from their platforms.

anon [402] • Disclaimer , says: July 8, 2020 at 11:57 pm GMT

FYI while BLM and RG draw our attention and now RABAS have made all other conspiracies recede into Corona graveyard

( Russia gate and Russia Afghan Bounty American Solider )
Kushner stoke and his DNA repaired the monetary damages back at home of origin .

Israel lobby organizations such as the Zionist Organization of America ($2-5 million), Friends of the IDF ($2-5 million) and the Israeli American Council ($1-2 million) are grabbing huge 100% forgivable loans from the CARES Act PPP program.
According to SBA data released on Monday, Israeli’s Bank Leumi has doled out a quarter to a half billion dollars under the PPP program, despite being called out for operating in the occupied West Bank.
Leumi has given sweetheart deals to fellow Israeli companies Oran Safety Glass (which defrauded the US Army on bulletproof glass contracts) and Energix, which operates power plants in the occupied Golan Heights and West Bank.
This exchange took place today on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal.

This video clip with additional information is available on IRmep’s YouTube Channel.
Grant F. Smith is the author of the new book The Israel Lobby Enters State Government. He is director of the Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy IRmep in Washington, D.C. which co-organizes IsraelLobbyCon each year at the National Press Club.

Patagonia Man , says: July 9, 2020 at 12:09 am GMT
@geokat62
– colonial expansion,
– rolling genocide of the Palestinian people, witness 2014 Operation Protective Edge,
– terrorist attacks of neighboring Arab/Muslim states – Egypt, Lebanon, Iraq, Occupied Territories, Iran & Syria;
– terrorist attacks on Western nations, incl. the UK, the US, & France (since its Parliament voted to recognize Palestine as a state in 2014), and
– sponsoring of terror organizations e.g, ISIS, to continue its proxy war on Syria.
– etc, etc

To be forewarned is to be forearmed.

Anon [377] • Disclaimer , says: July 9, 2020 at 12:45 am GMT
@Mefobills

Because Biblical word “sin” is not understood, it gives cover and sanction for creditors to run wild.

This truth cannot be stressed enough.
True meaning of Sin = Debt

Derer , says: July 9, 2020 at 2:09 am GMT
@Jake

In addition to Constantinople, years later defending Ottoman remnants in Bosnia and Kosovo against the Christians by “cigar” Clinton and warmonger Blair that introduced the Islamization of Europe.

Wizard of Oz , says: July 9, 2020 at 3:33 am GMT
@Erzberger e lines of making distinctions e.g. between deliberate murder of harmless civilians and forcing choices on them (starve Russian prisoners and ration food to mothers and children e.g.). Of course the choice to get rid of their government and stop the war is unrealistic even in the post Cold War world. What did sanctions on Iran produce?? Just civilian deaths.

** it is only recently that I discovered that it made a big contribution to diverting German effort from the Eastern Front though it is not surprising that Stalin thought the absence of a Second Front in France was meant to help the Germans savage the USSR.

Wizard of Oz , says: July 9, 2020 at 3:50 am GMT
@Patagonia Man he approx dozen Israeli dual citizens he alleges are in the Australian Parliament contrary to the provisions of the Australian constitution.

So, don’t encourage him Geo, by thanking him. That Israeli nonsense is enough to brand him as a nutter.

As to Quadrant, what does it matter that, in the 50s, and maybe till about 1970, it was given some financial support by the CIA? Really, what is the point in the 21st century? Does it matter to current affairs that Robert Maxwell owned the Daily Mirror till the 90s?

If I don’t reply to all the rubbish no one should infer the truth of anything Patagonia Man alleges.

anonymous [157] • Disclaimer , says: July 9, 2020 at 4:12 am GMT
@Z-man

Putin because he re-established Christian Orthodoxy as the de facto state religion of Mother Russia.

You make it sound as if Putin single-handedly guided “mother” Russia from godlessness, to true God-awareness. Lol!

Except, Christianity of all flavours will always remain, Pagan Polytheist Mangods-worship, or Hindooism-lite, or Godlessness.

anonymous [157] • Disclaimer , says: July 9, 2020 at 5:40 am GMT
@Mefobills

“Professor” Hudson sounds like a kook.

He takes various commandments of God and distills it into a silly… Debt = Sin. Indeed, it is true that one can take anything and make it fit their delusional way of thought. E.g. the 3 in 1, of the pagan Trinity.

Of course, that does not mean, Usury (extortionate moneylending) ≠ Sin, which it most certainly is.

The Ten Commandments were about debt? A silly interpretation. They are primarily about Monotheism and a righteous way-of-life, and refraining from usury is just one aspect of it.

Christianity got perverted? Yes, it most certainly is a pagan perversion of True Monotheism.

Alfred , says: July 9, 2020 at 5:47 am GMT
@Curmudgeon

In Iceland she would not be especially good looking, just another face in the crowd

Sorry to rain on the parade.

What Have We Won?—Number One For Chlamydia

Alfred , says: July 9, 2020 at 5:56 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse

I suspect Assange had to be “put away” in case he leaked documents about the then forthcoming Coronascam. The timing is right.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: July 9, 2020 at 7:08 am GMT
@Patagonia Man

I don’t always agree with the wizard but your mad ad-hominen attack is beastly nonsense, Patagonia Slug.

Patagonia Man , says: July 9, 2020 at 7:19 am GMT
@Wizard of Oz

Forever the denialist, thanks for demonstrating the point.

annamaria , says: July 9, 2020 at 10:44 am GMT
@Erzberger

“Sure, Poland bears major responsibility for WW 2, and lending themselves to now hosting US nukes and troops to be moved over from Germany signals that they once again have not learned a thing from their past.”
— Stepping on rakes as a national pastime.

annamaria , says: July 9, 2020 at 10:59 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse an associated organisation whose stated objective is to ‘maximise support for the State of Israel within the British Liberal Democrat Party’…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrat_Friends_of_Israel
Both groups of “Friends of Israel” have been openly disloyal to the UK.
Both groups of “Friends of Israel ” have been actively promoting the rape and destruction of Syria and Libya. The protection and glorification of White Helmets’ murderous jihadis is a nice illustration. Patagonia Man , says: July 9, 2020 at 1:09 pm GMT

@Ann Nonny Mouse

So what kind of self-righteousness is this? I said from my experience

When I want your opinion I’ll ask for it.

In future, don’t comment until you’re specifically addressed.

Franklin Ryckaert , says: July 9, 2020 at 1:17 pm GMT
@annamaria

What British politics urgently needs is a lobby Friends of Britain in all of its political parties.

Erzberger , says: July 9, 2020 at 2:07 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz will be as cruel as the Soviets. Were they wrong?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-nazis-exploited-shermans-march-the-sea-25437

Spaight claims that drawing the war to the British isles was done in solidarity with the Soviets. This is nonsense but a timely propaganda move at a time when German defeat was assured. Stalin did no fall into that trap. He lknew about Operation Pike and Operation Impossible, and had zero reason to trust the British. Wikipedia has a page on either Operation

Erzberger , says: July 9, 2020 at 2:13 pm GMT
@Erzberger

correction: Operation Unthinkable

Erzberger , says: July 9, 2020 at 2:28 pm GMT
@annamaria

True. Victimhood is essential to Polish nationalism, and their last defense against becoming Europeans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Europe#Historical_critics

Anon [288] • Disclaimer , says: July 9, 2020 at 2:38 pm GMT
@Patagonia Man

Denialist? A careful textual analysis tells me you are saying WoZ denies what you assert, which is that there are about a dozen Israeli dual citizens in the Australian Parliament, contrary to law. Instead of coyly dancing around the issue what about meeting the challenge to name at least some?

Wizard of Oz , says: July 9, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT
@Erzberger Thanks. Mind you I think the Blitz was pretty indiscriminate bombing before Britain was in a position to inflict much damage on Germany. I gather attacks on London from the start were a strategic error by Hitler because the Liluftwaffe should have kept up its attacks on Britisk airfields. Interesting that Albert Speer, in the “World at War” series, said that four more raids like the 1000 bomber raid on Hamburg (or maybe it was Cologne) would have finished the war. Why couldn’t Bomber Command do I it? Maybe it was because Eisenhower won the battle to have bombers diverted to bombing the Pas we Calais (mostly) and Normandie.
Erzberger , says: July 9, 2020 at 3:33 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz

“Mind you I think the Blitz was pretty indiscriminate bombing before Britain was in a position to inflict much damage on Germany.”

Wrong.

BTW, the Blitz is a misnomer. Blitzkrieg is tactical air support for ground troops. Neither applies to the air attacks on German cities in May 1940, or the German retaliation, several months later, that we know as the Blitz.

Richard Overy though has argued that the German Blitz showed the British how it was done efficiently, so they improved their bombing strategy accordingly afterwards. Whatever

Z-man , says: July 9, 2020 at 5:45 pm GMT
@annamaria

— Stepping on rakes as a national pastime.

LOL!!! Good one.

[Jul 05, 2020] Some Conspiracy Theories Are for Real by Philip Giraldi

Jul 05, 2020 | www.unz.com

What is the best way to debunk a conspiracy theory? Call it a conspiracy theory, a label which in and of itself implies disbelief. The only problem with that is there have been many actual conspiracies both historically and currently and many of them are not in the least theoretical in nature. Conspiracies of several kinds brought about American participation in both world wars. And however one feels about President Donald Trump, it must be conceded that he has been the victim of a number of conspiracies, first to deny him the GOP nomination, then to insure that he be defeated in the presidential election, and subsequently to completely delegitimize his presidency.

Prior to Trump there have been numerous conspiracy "theories," many of which have been quite plausible. The "suicide" of Defense Secretary James Forrestal comes to mind, followed by the assassination of John F. Kennedy, which has been credibly credited to both Cuba and Israel. And then there is 9/11, perhaps the greatest conspiracy theory of all. Israel clearly knew it was coming, witness the Five Dancing Shlomos cavorting and filming themselves in New Jersey as the twin towers went down. Also the Saudis might have played a role in funding and even directing the alleged hijackers. And we have also had the conspiracy by the neocons to fabricate information about Iraq's WMDs and the ongoing conspiracy by the same players to depict Iran as a threat to the United States.

Given the multiple crises currently being experienced in the United States it is perhaps inevitable that speculation about conspiracies is at its highest level ever. To the average American it is incomprehensible how the country has become so screwed up because the political and economic elite is fundamentally incompetent, so the search for a scapegoat must go on.

There are a number of conspiracy theories about the coronavirus currently making the rounds. Those libertarians and contrarians who choose to believe that the virus is actually a flu being exploited to strip them of their liberties are convinced that many in the government and media have conspired to sell what is essentially a fraud. One such snake oil salesman persists in using an analogy, that since more Americans are killed in automobile accidents than by the coronavirus it would be more appropriate to ban cars than to require the wearing of face masks.

Another theory making the rounds accuses Microsoft multi-billionaire Bill Gates of trying to take over the world's healthcare system through the introduction of a vaccine to control the coronavirus, which he presumably created in the first place. The fallacy in many of the virus "conspiracies" that relate to a totalitarian regime or a crazy billionaire using a faux disease to generate fear so as to gain control of the citizenry is that it gives far too much credit to any government's or individual's ability to pull off a fraud of that magnitude. It would require people a whole lot smarter than the tag team of Trump-Pompeo or even Gates to convince the world and thousands of doctors and scientists that they should lock down entire countries over something completely phony.

Other coronavirus theories include that the virus was developed in the U.S., was exported to China by a traitorous American scientist, weaponized in Wuhan and then unleashed on the West as part of a communist plot to destroy capitalism and democracy. That would mean that we are already at war with China, or at least we should be. Then there is the largely accepted theory that the virus was created in Wuhan and escaped from the lab. Since that time Beijing has been engaging in a cover-up, which is the conspiracy. It is a theme favored by the White House, which has not yet decided what to do about it beyond assigning funny "Yellow Peril" names to the disease so everyone in MAGA hats will have something to chuckle about leading up to the November election.

But all kidding aside, there are some conspiracy theories that are more worth considering than others. One would be the role of George Soros and the so-called Open Society Foundations that he controls and funds in the unrest that is sweeping across the United States. The allegations against Soros are admittedly thin on evidence, but conspiracy mongers would point out that that is the mark of a really well-planned conspiracy, similar to what the 89 year-old Hungarian Jewish billionaire has been engaging in for a long time. The current round of claims about Open Society and Soros have generated as many as 500,000 tweets a day as well as nearly 70,000 Facebook posts per month, mostly from political conservatives.

The allegations tend to fall into two broad categories . First, that Soros hires protester/thugs and transports them to demonstrations where they are supplied with bricks and incendiaries to turn the gatherings into riots. Second, that Open Society is funding and otherwise enabling the destabilizing flow of illegal immigrants into the United States.

Soros and his supporters, many of whom are Jewish because they think they see anti-Semitism in the attacks on the Hungarian, claim to support democratization and free trade worldwide. He is, in effect, one of the world's leading globalists. Soros claims to be a "force for good" as the cliché goes, but is it completely credible that his $32 billion foundation does not operate behind the scenes to influence developments in ways that are certainly not democratic?

Indeed, Soros accumulated his vast fortune through vulture capitalism. He made over $1 billion in 1992 by selling short $10 billion in British pounds sterling, leading to the media dubbing him "the man who broke the bank of England." He has been accused of similar currency manipulation in both Europe and Asia. In 1999, New York Times economist Paul Krugman wrote of him that "Nobody who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware that these days there really are investors who not only move money in anticipation of a currency crisis, but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit."

Far from a passive bystander giving helpful advice to democracy groups, Soros was heavily involved with the restructuring of former communist regimes in eastern Europe and had a hand in the so-called Rose Revolution in Georgia in 2003 and the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine in 2014, both of which were supported by the U.S. government and were intended to threaten Russia's regional security.

Soros particularly hates President Vladimir Putin and Russia. He revealed that he is far from a benevolent figure fighting for justice in his March Financial Times op-ed (behind a pay wall) entitled "Europe Must Stand With Turkey Over Putin's War Crimes in Syria."

The op-ed is full of errors of fact and is basically a call for aggression against a Russia that he describes as engaged in bombing schools and hospitals. It starts with, "Since the beginning of its intervention in Syria in September 2015, Russia has not only sought to keep in place its most faithful Arab ally, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. It has also wanted to regain the regional and global influence that it lost since the fall of the Soviet Union." First of all, Russia did not "intervene" in Syria. It was invited there by the country's legitimate government to provide assistance against various groups, some of which were linked to al Qaeda and the Islamic State, that were seeking to overthrow President al-Assad.

And apart from Soros, few actual experts on Russia would claim that it is seeking to recreate the "influence" of the Soviet Union. Moscow does not have the resources to do so and has evinced no desire to pursue the sort of global agenda that was characteristic of the Soviet state.

There then follows a complete flight into hyperbole with: "Vladimir Putin has sought to use the turmoil in the Middle East to erase international norms and advances in international humanitarian law made since the second world war. In fact, creating the humanitarian disaster that has turned almost 6 million Syrians into refugees has not been a byproduct of the Russian president's strategy in Syria. It has been one of his central goals." Note that none of Soros's assertions are supported by fact.

The Soros op-ed also included a bit of reminiscence, describing how, "In 2014, I urged Europe to wake up to the threat that Russia was posing to its strategic interests." The op-ed reveals Soros as neither conciliatory nor "diplomatic," a clear sign that he picks his enemies based on ideological considerations that also drive his choices on how to frame his ventures. Given all of that, why is it unimaginable that George Soros is engaged in a conspiracy, that he is clandestinely behind at least some of the mayhem of Antifa and Black Lives Matter as well as the flood of illegal immigration that have together perhaps fatally destabilized the United States?

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.


Carlton Meyer , says: Website July 2, 2020 at 1:37 pm GMT

For those unfamiliar with the Soros/Israeli/CIA coup in the Republic of Georgia, here is a short video:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qC-xLCgbThM?feature=oembed

JasonT , says: July 2, 2020 at 1:42 pm GMT

...These, and Soros, are the front men. The real brains are hidden from sight.

A123 , says: July 2, 2020 at 2:50 pm GMT

One would be the role of George Soros and the so-called Open Society Foundations that he controls and funds in the unrest that is sweeping across the United States.

Reg Cæsar , says: July 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT

Instead of fairly distributing the wealth created by globalisation, Soros argued, capitalism's "winners" failed to "compensate the losers", which led to a drastic increase in domestic inequality – and anger.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/06/the-george-soros-philosophy-and-its-fatal-flaw

Sounds like many of the "populists" here.

Trinity , says: July 2, 2020 at 5:09 pm GMT

I know it is just a "conspiracy theory" that people like George Schwartz aka George (((Soros))) are funding these riots, but if this "conspiracy theory" were indeed true, why aren't Soros and his (((cohorts))) at least under investigation for treason and murder charges.

EliteCommInc. , says: July 2, 2020 at 6:35 pm GMT

"Sounds like many of the "populists" here."

I am not a populist. But the contention (s) you are referring to are no really the argument -- not by content.

The argument is that the suppose winners were and continue unfairly leverage the economic system with the help f government to avoid the consequences of their miscalculations, sometimes innocent, often careless and sometimes deliberate machinations.

That is quite a different argument than the winners should share more --

And as much as a capitalist as I am am -- I admit that there are goings on which violate the rules of capitalism as well as common decency.

UncommonGround , says: July 2, 2020 at 8:07 pm GMT

I didn't know that Soros could be so explicit about what he thinks about Putin and Syria and involve himself so concretely with such questions, about which he probably doesn't know very much (in the last times there have been very interesting articles about Syria, for instance, see links below).

Even though, I don't think that he has anything to do with BLM and the protests. Riots and revolts have happened other times without the coordination of people from outside. It happened in 1381 in England. A few years ago it happened in the UK and earlier it happened in the US, (I think when there was a blackout). Now it happened spontaneously in Stuttgart in Germany (apparently).

Why shouldn't people complain about the militarisation of the police which uses brutal methods to arrest people, a police which acts as if they had occupaied a country and had to contain a population of enemies?

The most recent conspiracy was the one to oust Corbyn (the text is relatively short):

The killing of Jeremy Corbyn
Peter Oborne and David Hearst

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/killing-jeremy-corbyn

The former Labour leader was the victim of a carefully planned and brutally executed political assassination

About Syria, an important text by an expert, long:

The Salafist Roots of the Syrian Uprising
by William Van Wagenen

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/the-salafist-roots-of-the-syrian-uprising/

Syria: Old Pretexts, New Sanctions, Still Counterproductive
by Bas Spliet

https://original.antiwar.com/Bas_Spliet/2020/06/18/syria-old-pretexts-new-sanctions-still-counterproductive/

Meena , says: July 3, 2020 at 11:25 pm GMT

" Wall Street Journal reported Friday that following the drone strike on Soleimani last week, Trump told unspecified associates "he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate."
http://www.commindreams.org

From any angle ,this will look like a conspiracy . But talking about it to portray the existential crisis of USA politics ,a science of checks and balances, media responsibility and the mechanism in place to make this sort of events to happen will be labeled as conspiracy theory .

What is this.?
1 Impeachable offense
2 who will raise the issue? Media, Congress, Government agencies and activist judges .
They don't why ?
3 Who will investigate ? Dept of Justice.
Why they don't ?

4 would it be a conspiracy theory had Trump not shared the quid pro quo? Absolutely .

5 who is keeping quiet on the initiation of war illegal war to gain personal favor by Trump and who is asking war on Iran ? Same gaggle of smiley faces – Bolton to Kristol to Cotton to Lindsey to Pelosi to Biden to Sherman Engle , Schumer , Cheney( the cow ) , sage Bush jr, Hillary and same gallery of rogues like NYT BBC CNN FOX MSNBC .

6 is there a possibility of a war initiated by Trump to make last ditch effort to win election? Yes.

Bolton recently and , Deniis Ross have suggested to Obama to get out of bad poll number before ,
Economist Rubiono has suggested before as was shared by zerohedge sometimes back.

7 Why does conspiracy theory keep on returning ? Because the first appearance is never pushed back exposed and vilified by any body .
8 How do one evaluate and understand the fate accompli ? They don't . They shrug and move on as they did after Suleimnai killing and wait for next disavowal of any "conspiracy theory before confidently shrugging off the fait accompli.

9 What do you call them? Zombie human slaving away their lives
to harakiri.

Geowhizz , says: July 4, 2020 at 4:12 am GMT

So Soros broke the pound back in the day. Why did MI6 not kill him?

Thomasina , says: July 4, 2020 at 9:33 am GMT

I've often wondered about Soros. Was he a wealthy man before he "broke the Bank of England"?

I've also wondered how it is possible that someone like Soros would have been allowed to break the Bank of England. Was it just a set-up to provide him with plausible funds in order to make him look legit?

He gets written up as some ideological billionaire who acts in accordance with his conscience, but to me he looks like he's working for the ruling elites and the CIA.

Truly benevolent people (which I'm sure Soros is not) don't go around causing the chaos he does.

Anon [413] Disclaimer , says: July 4, 2020 at 9:48 am GMT

There are many videos about Soros' purported influence on world events but very few books. An interesting one is "Soros rompiendo España" by an internationalist and academic of the Universidad Complutense of Madrid.

It badly needs an editor to make it less boring, but it traces and documents Soros financing and tactics in the case of Cataluña. Basically creating NGOs to mobilize civil society to a pitch, while providing content and tactics. Creating grass roots pressure to change policy and break up one of Europes oldest nation-states. Such a network has the advantage of flexibility, it can ebb and flow as required.

What is different from Europe's 19th Century instability? Well, that one's to ponder. But it seems to me it is:
1) independent of Perfidious Albion or any central government. Unless it's Bilderberg, of course.
2) requires no high level assassinations (king and prime minister of Italy, King and Queen of Serbia, multiple Habsburgs, etc). Orban and Salvini are alive and well. Trump will lose, but continue playing golf.
3) not about the self-determination of oppressed peoples, that is, not about nationhood.

There seem to be non-stop programming exercises to achieve and direct mass activism across the West: immigration into Europe and US, Cataluña protests, green St Greta protest, feminist protests, Covid confinement, BLM. These last four, in the past TWO years. The generational divide cemented during Covid is something to watch, I've seen videos in French and Spanish about the "life lessons" of the pandemic that seed this idea.

The next step in this Ordo ab Chaos stumps me.

UncommonGround , says: July 4, 2020 at 10:19 am GMT
@Wizard of Oz n't Stop Until They Get Their War With Iran

– Op-Ed: The neocons: They're back, and on Iran, they're uncompromising as ever

– The Neoconservative Obsession with Iran

– Is Tehran Back in the Crosshairs of the Neocon Crusade?

– Next Stop, Tehran: The Neoconservative Campaign for War in Iran

About the other theme you ask about, I don't believe that it's possible to investigate it properly, but anyway:

– 5 Israelis Detained for Puzzling Behavior' After WTC Tragedy (Yossi Melman, Haaretz)

– Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 .. (the Herald)

Really No Shit , says: July 4, 2020 at 11:08 am GMT

Some say that Soros is a Rothschild agent, just as Wilbur Ross is claimed to be by others, and the Bank of England is most likely the Nathan Rothschild agent, therefore, a question arises: how can an operative of an outfit be the buster of that very outfit? It's like saying a pizza parlor owned by the mafia was cleaned out of pies by one of its very own goons.

[Jul 02, 2020] Bill Browder, a Billionaire accused of being a Fraud and Liar by John Ryan

Jul 02, 2020 | www.unz.com

William "Bill" Browder has been a figure of some prominence on the world scene for the past decade. A few months back, Der Spiegel published a major exposé on him and the case of Sergei Magnitsky but the mainstream media completely ignored this report and so aside from Germany few people are aware of Browder's background and the Magnitsky issue which resulted in sanctions on Russia.

Browder had gone to Moscow in 1996 to take advantage of the privatization of state companies by Russian President Boris Yeltsin. Browder founded Hermitage Capital Management, a Moscow investment firm registered in offshore Guernsey in the Channel Islands. For a time, it was the largest foreign investor in Russian securities. Hermitage Capital Management was rated as extremely successful after earning almost 3,000 percent in its operations between 1996 and December 2007.

During the corrupt Yeltsin years, with his business partner's US $25 million, Browder amassed a fortune . Profiting from the large-scale privatizations in Russia from 1996 to 2006 his Hermitage firm eventually grew to $4.5 billion .

When Browder encountered financial difficulties with Russian authorities he portrayed himself as an anti-corruption activist and became the driving force behind the Magnitsky Act, which resulted in economic sanctions aimed at Russian officials. However, an examination of Browder's record in Russia and his testimony in court cases reveals contradictions with his statements to the public and Congress, and raises questions about his motives in attacking corruption in Russia.

Although he has claimed that he was an 'activist shareholder' and campaigned for Russian companies to adopt Western-style governance, it has been reported that he cleverly destabilized companies he was targeting for takeover. Canadian blogger Mark Chapman has revealed that after Browder would buy a minority share in a company he would resort to lawsuits against this company through shell companies he controlled. This would destabilize the company with charges of corruption and insolvency. To prevent its collapse the Russian government would intervene by injecting capital into it, causing its stock market to rise -- with the result that Browder's profits would rise exponentially.

Later, through Browder's Russian-registered subsidiaries, his accountant Magnitsky acquired extra shares in Russian gas companies such as Surgutneftegaz, Rosneft and Gazprom. This procedure enabled Browder's companies to pay the residential tax rate of 5.5% instead of the 35% that foreigners would have to pay.

However, the procedure to bypass the Russian presidential decree that banned foreign companies and citizens from purchasing equities in Gazprom was an illegal act. Because of this and other suspected transgressions, Magnitsky was interrogated in 2006 and later in 2008. Initially he was interviewed as a suspect and then as an accused. He was then arrested and charged by Russian prosecutors with two counts of aggravated tax evasion committed in conspiracy with Bill Browder in respect of Dalnyaya Step and Saturn, two of Browder's shell companies to hold shares that he bought. Unfortunately, in 2009 Magnitsky died in pre-trial detention because of a failure by prison officials to provide prompt medical assistance.

Browder has challenged this account and for years he has maintained that Magnitsky's arrest and death were a targeted act of revenge by Russian authorities against a heroic anti-corruption activist.

It's only recently that Browder's position was challenged by the European Court of Human Rights who in its ruling on August 27, 2019 concluded that Magnitsky's "arrest was not arbitrary, and that it was based on reasonable suspicion of his having committed a criminal offence." And as such "The Russians had good reason to arrest Sergei Magnitsky for Hermitage tax evasion."

"The Court observes that the inquiry into alleged tax evasion, resulting in the criminal proceedings against Mr Magnitskiy, started in 2004, long before he complained that prosecuting officials had been involved in fraudulent acts."

Prior to Magnitsky's arrest, because of what Russia considered to be questionable activities, Browder had been refused entry to Russia in 2005. However, he did not take lightly his rebuff by the post-Yeltsin Russian government under Vladimir Putin. As succinctly expressed by Professor Halyna Mokrushyna at the University of Ottawa:

[Browder] began to engage in a worldwide campaign against the Russian authorities, accusing them of corruption and violation of human rights. The death of his accountant and auditor Sergei Magnitsky while in prison became the occasion for Browder to launch an international campaign presenting the death as a ruthless silencing of an anti-corruption whistleblower. But the case of Magnitsky is anything but.

Despite Brower's claims that Magnitsky died as a result of torture and beatings, authentic documents and testimonies show that Magnitsky died because of medical neglect – he was not provided adequate treatment for a gallstone condition. It was negligence typical at that time of prison bureaucracy, not a premeditated killing. Because of the resulting investigation, many high level functionaries in the prison system were fired or demoted.

For the past ten years Browder has maintained that Magnitsky was tortured and murdered by prison guards. Without any verifiable evidence he has asserted that Magnitsky was beaten to death by eight riot guards over 1 hour and 18 minutes. This was never corroborated by anybody, including by autopsy reports. It was even denied by Magnitsky's mother in a video interview.

Nevertheless, on the basis of his questionable beliefs, he has carried on a campaign to discredit and vilify Russia and its government and leaders.

In addition to the ruling of the European Court of Human Rights, Browder's basic underlying beliefs and assumptions are being seriously challenged. Very recently, on May 5, 2020, an American investigative journalist, Lucy Komisar, published an article with the heading Forensic photos of Magnitsky show no marks on torso :

On Fault Lines today I revealed that I have obtained never published forensic photos of the body of Sergei Magnitsky, William Browder's accountant, that show not a mark on his torso. Browder claims he was beaten to death by prison guards. Magnitsky died at 9:30pm Nov 16, 2009, and the photos were taken the next day.

Later in her report she states:

I noted on the broadcast that though the photos and documents are solid, several dozen U.S. media – both allegedly progressive and mainstream -- have refused to publish this information. And if that McCarthyite censorship continues, the result of rampant fear-inducing Russophobia, I will publish it and the evidence on this website.

Despite evidence such as this, till this day Browder maintains that Sergei Magnitsky was beaten to death with rubber batons. It's this narrative that has attracted the attention of the US Congress, members of parliament, diplomats and human rights activists. To further refute his account, a 2011 analysis by the Physicians for Human Rights International Forensics Program of documents provided by Browder found no evidence he was beaten to death.

In his writings, as supposed evidence, Browder provides links to two untranslated Russian documents. They were compiled immediately after Magnitsky died on November 16, 2009. Recent investigative research has revealed that one of these appears to be a forgery. The first document D309 states that shortly before Magnitsky's death: "Handcuffs were used in connection with the threat of committing an act of self-mutilation and suicide, and that the handcuffs were removed after thirty minutes." To further support this, a forensic review states that while in the prison hospital "Magnitsky exhibited behavior diagnosed as "acute psychosis" by Dr. A. V. Gaus at which point the doctor ordered Mr. Magnitsky to be restrained with handcuffs."

The second document D310 is identically worded to D309 except for a change in part of the preceding sentence. The sentence in D309 has the phrase " special means were" is changed in D310 to " a rubber baton was."

As such, while D309 is perfectly coherent, in D310 the reference to a rubber baton makes no sense whatsoever, given the title and text it shares with D309. This and other inconsistences, including signatures on these documents, make it apparent that D310 was copied from D309 and that D310 is a forgery. Furthermore, there is no logical reason for two almost identical reports to have been created, with only a slight difference in one sentence. There is no way of knowing who forged it and when, but this forged document forms a major basis for Browder's claim that Magnitsky was clubbed to death.

The fact that there is no credible evidence to indicate that Magnitsky was subjected to a baton attack, combined with forensic photos of Magnitsky's body shortly after death that show no marks on it, provides evidence that appears to repudiate Browder's decade-long assertions that Magnitsky was viciously murdered while in jail.

With evidence such as this, it repeatedly becomes clear that Browder's narrative contains mistakes and inconsistencies that distort the overall view of the events leading to Magnitsky's death.

Despite Magnitsky's death the case against him continued in Russia and he was found guilty of corruption in a posthumous trial. Actually, the trial's main purpose was to investigate alleged fraud by Bill Browder, but to proceed with this they had to include the accountant Magnitsky as well. The Russian court found both of them guilty of fraud. Afterwards, the case against Magnitsky was closed because of his death.

After Browder was refused entry to Russia in November of 2005, he launched a campaign insisting that his departure from Russia resulted from his anti-corruption activities. However, the real reason for the cancellation of his visa that he never mentions is that in 2003 a Russian provincial court had convicted Browder of evading $40 million in taxes. In addition, his illegal purchases of shares in Gazprom through the use of offshore shell companies were reportedly valued at another $30 million, bringing the total figure of tax evasion to $70 million.

It's after this that the Russian federal government next took up the case and initially went after Magnitsky, the accountant who carried out Browder's schemes.

But back in the USA Browder portrayed himself as the ultimate truth-teller, and embellished his tale by asserting that Sergei Magnitsky was a whistleblowing "tax lawyer," rather than one of Browder's accountants implicated in tax fraud. As his case got more involved, he presented a convoluted explanation that he was not responsible for bogus claims made by his companies. This is indeed an extremely complicated matter and as such only a summary of some of this will be presented.

The essence of the case is that in 2007 three shell companies that had once been owned by Browder were used to claim a $232 million tax refund based on trumped-up financial loses. Browder has stated that the companies were stolen from him, and that in a murky operation organized by a convicted fraudster, they were re-registered in the names of others. There is evidence however that Magnitsky and Browder may have been part of this convoluted scheme.

Browder's main company in Russia was Hermitage Capital Management, and associated with this firm were a large number of shell companies, some in the Russian republic of Kalmykia and some in the British Virgin Islands. A law firm in Moscow, Firestone Duncan, owned by Americans, did the legal work for Browder's Hermitage. Sergei Magnitsky was one of the accountants for Firestone Duncan and was assigned to work for Hermitage.

An accountant colleague of Magnitsky's at Firestone Duncan, Konstantin Ponomarev, was interviewed in 2017 by Lucy Komisar, an investigative journalist, who was doing research on Browder's operations in Russia. In the ensuing report on this , Komisar states:

"According to Ponomarev, the firm – and Magnitsky -- set up an offshore structure that Russian investigators would later say was used for tax evasion and illegal share purchases by Hermitage. . .

the structure helped Browder execute tax-evasion and illegal share purchase schemes.

"He said the holdings were layered to conceal ownership: The companies were "owned" by Cyprus shells Glendora and Kone, which, in turn, were "owned" by an HSBC Private Bank Guernsey Ltd trust. Ponomarev said the real owner was Browder's Hermitage Fund. He said the structure allowed money to move through Cyprus to Guernsey with little or no taxes paid along the way. Profits could get cashed out in Guernsey by investors of the Hermitage Fund and HSBC.

"Ponomarev said that in 1996, the firm developed for Browder 'a strategy of how to buy Gazprom shares in the local market, which was restricted for foreign investors.'"

In the course of their investigation, on June 2, 2007, Russian tax investigators raided the offices of Hermitage and Firestone Duncan. They seized Hermitage company documents, computers and corporate stamps and seals. They were looking for evidence to support Russian charges of tax evasion and illegal purchase of shares of Gazprom.

In a statement to US senators on July 27, 2017, Browder stated that Russian interior ministry officials "seized all the corporate documents connected to the investment holding companies of the funds that I advised. I didn't know the purpose of these raids so I hired the smartest Russian lawyer I knew, a 35-year-old named Sergei Magnitsky. I asked Sergei to investigate the purpose of the raids and try to stop whatever illegal plans these officials had."

Contrary to what Browder claims, Magnitsky had been his accountant for a decade. He had never acted as a lawyer, nor did he have the qualifications to do so. In fact in 2006 when questioned by Russian investigators, Magnitsky said he was an auditor on contract with Firestone Duncan. In Browder's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2017 he claimed Magnitsky was his lawyer, but in 2015 in his testimony under oath in the US government's Prevezon case, Browder told a different story, as will now be related.

On Browder's initiative , in December 2012 he presented documents to the New York District Attorney alleging that a Russian company Prevezon had "benefitted from part of the $230 million dollar theft uncovered by Magnitsky and used those funds to buy a number of luxury apartments in Manhattan." In September 2013, the New York District Attorney's office filed money-laundering charges against Prevezon. The company hired high-profile New York-based lawyers to defend themselves against the accusations.

As reported by Der Spiegel , Browder would not voluntarily agree to testify in court so Prevezon's lawyers sent process servers to present him with a subpoena, which he refused to accept and was caught on video literally running away. In March 2015, the judge in the Prevezon case ruled that Browder would have to give testimony as part of pre-trial discovery. Later while in court and under oath and confronted with numerous documents, Browder was totally evasive. Lawyer Mark Cymrot spent six hours examining him, beginning with the following exchange:

Cymrot asked: Was Magnitsky a lawyer or a tax expert?

He was "acting in court representing me," Browder replied.

And he had a law degree in Russia?

"I'm not aware he did."

Did he go to law school?

"No."

How many times have you said Mr. Magnitsky is a lawyer? Fifty? A hundred? Two hundred?

"I don't know."

Have you ever told anybody that he didn't go to law school and didn't have a law degree?

"No."

Critically important, during the court case, the responsible U.S. investigator admitted during questioning that his findings were based exclusively on statements and documents from Browder and his team. Under oath, Browder was unable to explain how he and his people managed to track the flow of money and make the accusation against Prevezon. In his 2012 letter that launched the court case, Browder referred to "corrupt schemes" used by Prevezon, but when questioned under oath he admitted he didn't know of any. In fact, to almost every question put forth by Mark Cymrot, Browder replied that he didn't know or didn't remember.

The case finally ended in May 2017 when the two sides reached a settlement. Denis Katsyv, the company's sole shareholder, on a related matter agreed to pay nearly six million dollars to the US government, but would not have to admit any wrongdoing. Also the settlement contained an explicit mention that neither Katsyv nor his company Prevezon had anything to do with the Magnitsky case. Afterwards, one of Katsyv's, lawyers, Natalia Veselnitskaya, exclaimed: "For the first time, the U.S. recognized that the Russians were in the right!"

A major exposé of the Browder-Russia story is presented in a film that came out in June 2016 The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes by the well-known independent filmmaker Andrei Nekrasov . Reference to this film will be made later but to provide a summary of the Browder tax evasion case some critical information can be obtained from a report by Eric Zuesse , an investigative historian, who managed to get a private viewing of the film by the film's Production Manager.

In the film Nekrasov proceeds to unravel Browder's story, which was designed to conceal his own corporate responsibility for the criminal theft of the money. As Browder's widely accepted story collapses, Magnitsky is revealed not to be a whistleblower but a likely abettor to the fraud who died in prison not from an official assassination but from banal neglect of his medical condition. The film cleverly allows William Browder to self-destruct under the weight of his own lies and the contradictions in his story-telling at various times.

Following the raid by tax officials on the Moscow Hermitage office on June 2, 2007, nothing further on these matters was reported until April 9, 2008 when Ms Rimma Starlova, the figurehead director of the three supposedly stolen Browder shell companies, filed a criminal complaint with the Russian Interior Ministry in Kazan accusing representatives of Browder companies of the theft of state funds, i.e., $232 million in a tax-rebate fraud. Although Hermitage was aware of this report they kept quiet about it because they claimed it as a false accusation against themselves.

On September 23, 2008, there was a news report about a theft of USD 232 million from the Russian state treasury, and the police probe into it. On October 7, 2008, Magnitsky was questioned by tax investigators about the $232 million fraud because he was the accountant for Browder's companies.

The central issue was that during September of 2007 three of Browder's shell companies had changed owners and that afterwards fraud against Russian treasury had been conducted by the new owners of these companies.

According to Magnitsky the way that ownership changed was through powers of attorney. This is a matter that Browder never mentioned. The Nekrasov film shows a document: "Purchase agreement based on this power of attorney, Gasanov represents Glendora Holdings Ltd." Glendora Holdings is another shell company owned by Browder. This shows that Gasanov, the middleman, had the power of attorney connecting the new nominees to the real beneficiaries. However, Gasanov could not be questioned on whose orders he was doing this because shortly afterwards, he mysteriously died. No one proved that it was murder, but if that death was a coincidence, it wasn't the only one.

During September 2007 the three Hermitage shell companies, Rilend, Parfenion and Mahaon, were re-registered by Gasanov to a company called Pluton that was registered in Kazan, and owned by Viktor Markelov, a Russian citizen with a criminal record. Markelov through a series of sham arbitration judgments conducted fake lawsuits that demanded damages for alleged contract violations. Once the damages were paid, in December 2007 the companies filed for tax refunds that came to $232 million. These were taxes that had been paid by these companies in 2006.

On February 5, 2008 the Investigative Committee of the Russian General Prosecutor's Office opened a criminal case to investigate the fraud committed by Markelov and other individuals.

Markelov had hired a Moscow lawyer, Andrey Pavlov, to conduct these complex operations. Afterwards Pavlov was questioned by Russian authorities and revealed what had happened. Markelov was convicted and sentenced to five years for the scam . At his trial Markelov testified that he was not in possession of the $232 million tax refund and that he did not know the identity of the client who would benefit from the refund scheme. And till this day no one knows! However, Russian tax authorities suspect it is William Browder.

At his trial, Markelov testified that one of the people he worked with to secure the fraudulent tax refund was Sergei Leonidovich. Magnitsky's full name was Sergei Leonidovich Magnitsky. Also when questioned by the police, Markelov named Browder's associates Khairetdinov and Kleiner as people involved in the company's re-registration.

So this provides evidence that Magnitsky and Browder's other officials were involved in the re-registration scheme – which Browder later called theft. In his film Nekrasov states that Browder's team had set things up to look as if outsiders -- not Browder's team -- had transferred the assets.

According to Nekrasov's film documentation, Russian courts have established that it was the representatives of the Hermitage investment fund who had themselves voluntarily re-registered the Makhaon, Parfenion and Rilend companies in the name of other individuals, a fact that Mr Browder is seeking to conceal by shifting the blame, without any foundation, onto the law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation.

Indeed there is cause to be skeptical of the Browder narrative, and that the fraud was in fact concocted by Browder and his accountant Magnitsky. A Russian court has supported that alternative narrative, ruling in late December 2013 that Browder had deliberately bankrupted his company and engaged in tax evasion. On the basis of this he was sentenced to nine years prison in absentia.

In the meantime, over all these years, Browder has maintained and convinced the public at large that the $232 million fraud against the Russian treasury had been perpetrated by Magnitsky's interrogators and Russian police. With respect to the "theft" of his three companies (or "vehicles as he refers to them) on September 16, 2008 he stated on his Hermitage website : "The theft of the vehicles was only possible using the vehicles' original corporate documents seized by the Moscow Interior Ministry in its raid on Hermitage's law firm in Moscow on 4 June 2007."

As such, Browder is accusing Russian tax authorities and police for conducting this entire fraudulent operation.

In his film Nekrasov says that the Browder version is: "Yes, the crime took place [$232 million fraud against the public treasury but, according to Browder, actually against Browder's firm], but somebody else did it -- the police did it."

In this convoluted tale, it should be recalled that the fraud against the Russian treasury had first been reported to the police by Rimma Starlova on April 9, 2008. This had been recorded on the Hermitage website. In preparing the material for his film, Nekrasov noted that

"In March 2009, Starlova's report disappeared from Hermitage's website. . . . This is the same time that Magnitsky started to be treated as an analyst . . . who discovered the $232 million fraud. Thus the Magnitsky-the-whistleblower story was born, almost a year after the matter had been reported to the police."

Nekrasov's film also undermines the basis of Browder's case that Magnitsky had been killed by the police because he had accused two police officials, Karpov and Kuznetsov, but this is questionable since documents show Magnitsky had not accused anyone. As Nekrasov states in the film: "The problem is, he [Magnitsky] made no accusations. In that testimony, its record contains no accusations. Mr. Magnitsky did not actually testify against the two officers [Karpov and Kuznetsov]." So this factual evidence should destroy Browder's accusations.

It should be noted Magnitsky's original interview with authorities was as a suspect, not a whistleblower. Also contradicting Browder's claims, Nekrasov notes that Magnitsky does not even mention the names of the police officers in a key statement to authorities.

In his film Nekrasov includes an interview that he had with Browder regarding the issues about Magnitsky. Nekrasov confronts Browder with the core contradictions of his story. Incensed, Browder rises up and threatens the filmmaker:

" Anybody who says that Sergei Magnitsky didn't expose the crime before he was arrested is just trying to whitewash the Russian Government. Are you trying to say that Pavel Karpov is innocent? I'd really be careful about your going out and saying that Magnitsky wasn't a whistleblower. That's not going to do well for your credibility." Browder then walks off in a huff.

Nekrasov claims to be especially struck that the basis of Browder's case -- that Magnitsky had been killed by the police because he had accused two police officials, Karpov and Kuznetsov -- is a lie because there is documentary evidence that Magnitsky had not accused anyone.

Because of Browder's accusations, Nekrasov interviewed Pavel Karpov, the police officer who Browder accused of being involved in Magnitsky's alleged murder, despite the fact that Karpov was not on duty the day Magnitsky died.

Karpov presents Nekrasov with documents that Browder's case was built on. These original documents are actually fundamentally different from the way Browder had described them. This documentary evidence further exposes Browder's story for what it is.

Nekrasov asks Karpov why Browder wants to demonize him. Karpov explains that he had pursued Browder in 2004 for tax evasion, so that seems to be the reason why Browder smears him. And then Karpov says, "Having made billions here, Browder forgot to tell how he did it. So it suits him to pose as a victim. He is wanted here, but Interpol is not looking for him."

Afterwards in 2013, Karpov had tried to sue Browder for libel in a London court, but was not able to on the basis of procedural grounds since he was a resident of Russia and not the UK. However at the conclusion of the case, set out in his Judgment the presiding judge, Justice Simon, made some interesting comments.

"The causal link which one would expect from such a serious charge is wholly lacking; and nothing is said about torture or murder. In my view these are inadequate particulars to justify the charge that the Claimant was a primary or secondary party to Sergei Magnitsky's torture and murder, and that he would continue to commit or 'cause' murder, as pleaded in §60 of the Defence.

The Defendants have not come close to pleading facts which, if proved, would justify the sting of the libel."

In other words – in plain English – in the judge's view, Karpov was not in any sense party to Magnitsky's death, and Browder's claim that he was is not valid.

On the basis of the evidence that has been presented, it is undeniable that Browder's case appears to be a total misrepresentation, not only of Magnitsky's statements, but of just about everything else that's important in the case .

On a separate matter, on April 15, 2015 in a New York court case involving the US government and a Russian company, Previzon Holdings, Bill Browder had been ordered by a judge to give a deposition to Prevezon's lawyers.

Throughout this deposition, Browder (now under oath) contradicted virtually every aspect of his Magnitsky narrative and stated "I don't recall" when pressed about key portions of his narrative that he had previously repeated unabashedly in his testimonies to Congress and interviews with Western media. Browder "remembered nothing" and could not even deny asking Magnitsky to take responsibility for his (Browder's) crimes.

As a further example of Browder's dishonesty, in one of his publications, he shows a photo of an alleged employee of Browder's law firm, Firestone Duncan, named "Victor Poryugin" with vicious facial wounds from allegedly being tortured and beaten by police. However, the person shown was never with Browder's firm. Instead, this is a photo of "an American human rights campaigner beaten up during a street protest in 1961." It was Jim Zwerg, civil-rights demonstrator, during the 1960s, in the American South. Nekrasov was appalled and found it almost unimaginable that Browder would switch photos like that to demonize Russia and its police.

Browder was arrested by the Spanish police in June 2018. Even though Russia has on six occasions requested Browder's arrest through Interpol for tax fraud, the Spanish national police determined that Browder had been detained in error because the international warrant was no longer valid and released him.

A further matter that reflects on his character, William Browder, the American-born co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management is now a British citizen. The US taxes offshore earnings, but the UK does not. Highly likely because of this, in 1998 he gave up his American citizenship and became a British citizen and thereby has avoided paying US taxes on foreign investments. Nevertheless, he still has his family home in Princeton, NJ and also owns a $11 million dollar vacation home in Aspen, Colorado.

To put this in political context, Browder's narrative served a strong geopolitical purpose to demonize Russia at the dawn of the New Cold War. As such, Browder played a major role in this. In fact, the late celebrated American journalist Robert Parry thought that Browder single-handedly deserves much of the credit for the new Cold War.

Browder's campaign was so effective that in December 2012 he exploited Congressional willingness to demonize Russia, and as a result the US Congress passed a bipartisan bill, the Magnitsky Act, which was then signed by President Obama. U.S. Senators Ben Cardin and John McCain were instrumental in pushing through the Magnitsky Act, based on Browder's presentations.

However, key parts of the argument that passed into law in this act have been shown to be based on fraud and fabrication of 'evidence.' This bill blacklisted Russian officials who were accused of being involved in human-rights abuses.

In her analysis of the Magnitsky Act, Lucy Komisar, an investigative journalist, reveals a little known fact :

"A problem with the Magnitsky Act is that there is no due process. The targets are not told the evidence against them, they cannot challenge accusations or evidence in a court of law in order to get off the list. This "human rights law" violates the rule of law. There is an International Court with judges and lawyers to deal with human rights violators, but the US has not ratified its jurisdiction. Because it does not want to be subject to the rules it applies to others."

In 2017, Congress passed the Global Magnitsky Act, which enables the U.S. to impose sanctions against Russia for human rights violations worldwide.

In a move that history will show to be ill-advised, on October 18, 2017 Canada's Parliament and Senate unanimously approved Bill 226, a 'Magnitsky Act.' It mimics the US counterpart and targets Russia for further economic sanctions. Russia immediately denounced Canada's actions as being counter-productive, pointless and reprehensible. Actually an act of this type had been opposed by Stéphane Dion while he was Canada's minister of foreign affairs because he viewed it as a needless provocation against Russia. Dion also stated that adoption of a 'Magnitsky Act' would hurt the interests of Canadian businesses dealing with Russia and would thwart Canada's attempt's to normalize relations with Russia. However, Dion was replaced by Chrystia Freeland who immediately pushed this through. This is not surprising considering her well-documented Nazi family background and who is persona non grata in Russia.

A version of the Magnitsky Act was enacted in the UK and the Baltic republics in 1917.

In early 2020 a proposal to enact a version of the Magnitsky Act was presented to the Australian parliament and it is still under consideration. There has been considerable opposition to it including a detailed report by their Citizens Party, which exposes the full extent of Browder's fraud and chicanery.

The investigation into Browder's business activities in Russia is still an ongoing endeavour. On October 24, 2017 the

Russian Prosecutor General , Yuri Chaika, requested the US Attorney General Jeff Sessions to launch a probe into alleged tax evasion by Bill Browder, who in 2013 had already been sentenced in absentia to 9 years in prison in Russia for a similar crime.

Browder at that time was still being tried in Russia for suspected large-scale money laundering, also in absentia. Chaika added that Russian law enforcement possesses information that over $1 billion was illegally transferred from the country into structures connected with Bill Browder.

The Prosecutor General also asked Sessions to reconsider the Magnitsky Act. As he put it,

" from our standpoint, the act was adopted for no actual reason, while it was lobbied by people who had committed crimes in Russia. In our view, there are grounds to claim that this law lacks real foundation and that its passing was prompted by criminals' actions."

It's not known if Sessions ever responded to the Russian Prosecutor General. In any event, President Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions on November 7, 2018. As such it's evident that Russia's concerns about Browder's dishonest activities are stymied.

Extensive reference has already been made to the film that came out in June 2016 The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes by the independent filmmaker Andrei Nekrasov . When Nekrasov started the film he had fully believed Browder's story but as he delved into what really happened, to his surprise, he discovered that the case documents and other incontrovertible facts revealed Browder to be a fraud and a liar. The ensuing film presents a powerful deconstruction of the Magnitsky myth, but because of Browder's political connections and threats of lawsuits, the film has been blacklisted in the entire "free world." So much for the "free world's" freedom of the press and media. This film is not available on YouTube.

https://www.bitchute.com/embed/oJsWUlkjN6Gf/

The documentary was set for a premiere at the European Parliament in Brussels in April 2016, but at the last moment – faced with Browder's legal threats – the parliamentarians cancelled the showing.

There were hopes to show the documentary to members of Congress but the offer was rebuffed. Despite the frantic attempts by Browder's lawyers to block this documentary film from being shown anywhere, Washington's Newseum, to its credit, had a one-time showing on June 13, 2016, including a question-and-answer session with Andrei Nekrasov, moderated by journalist Seymour Hersh. Except for that audience, the public of the United States and Europe has been essentially shielded from the documentary's discoveries, all the better for the Magnitsky myth to retain its power as a seminal propaganda moment of the New Cold War.

Nekrasov's powerful deconstruction of the Magnitsky myth – and the film's subsequent blacklisting throughout the "free world" – recall other instances in which the West's propaganda lines don't stand up to scrutiny, so censorship and ad hominem attacks become the weapons of choice to defend " perception management ."

Other than the New York Times that had a lukewarm review , the mainstream media condemned the film and its showing. As such, with the exception of that one audience, the public in the USA, Canada and Europe has been shielded from the documentary's discoveries. The censorship of this film has made it a good example of how political and legal pressure can effectively black out what we used to call "the other side of the story."

Andrei Nekrasov is still prepared to go to court to defend the findings of his film, but Bill Browder has refused to do this and simply keeps maligning the film and Mr. Nekrasov.

Recent Developments

Although for almost the past ten years Browder's self-serving story had been accepted almost worldwide and served to help vilify Russia, in the past few months there has been an awakening to the true state of affairs about Browder.

The first such article "The Case of Sergei Magnitsky: Questions Cloud Story Behind U.S. Sanctions" written by Benjamin Bidder, a German journalist, appeared on November 26, 2019 in Der Spiegel. At the outset Bidder states:

"Ten years after his death, inconsistencies in Magnitsky's story suggest he may not have been the hero many people -- and Western governments -- believed him to be. Did the perfidious conspiracy to murder Magnitsky ever really take place? Or is Browder a charlatan whose story the West was too eager to believe? The certainty surrounding the Magnitsky affair becomes muddled in the documents, particularly the clear division between good and evil. The Russian authorities' take is questionable, but so is everyone else's -- including Bill Browder's.

But with the Magnitsky sanctions, it could be that the activist Browder used a noble cause to manipulate Western governments."

In summation, the article raises serious questions about many aspects of Browder's account. It concluded that his narrative was riddled with lies and said Western nations have fallen for a "convenient" story made up by a "fraudster. "

The report provoked Browder's fury, and he swiftly filed a complaint against Der Spiegel with the German Press Council as well as a complaint to the editor of Der Spiegel .

On December 17, 2019 Der Spiegel responded : " Why DER SPIEGEL Stands Behind Its Magnitsky Reporting." In a lengthy detailed response the journal rejects all aspects of Browder's complaint. They point out the inconsistencies in Browder's version of events and demonstrate that he is unable to present sufficient proof for his claims. They state: We believe his complaint has no basis and would like to review why we have considerable doubts about Browder's story and why we felt it necessary to present those doubts publicly."

Their report is highly enlightening and will have long-term consequences. It is one of the best refutations of Browder's falsified accounts that led to the Magnitsky Act. It exposes Browder as a fraud and his Magnitsky story as a fake. Despite all this, this exposé was ignored in the mainstream media so most people are unaware of these revelations. A good review of it is presented by Lucy Komisar in her article The Der Spiegel exposé of Bill Browder, December 6, 2019.

The German Press Council rejected Browder's complaint against Der Spiegel in January 2020 but Browder did not disclose this so it became known only in early May. Lucy Komisar reported this on May 12 and the main points of the Council's rejection are presented in her account. Browder had complained that the article had serious factual errors. The Press Council stated that Browder's position lacks proof and there could be no objection to Der Spiegel's examination of events leading to Magnitsky's death. All other Browder objections were rejected as well. In summation the Council stated: "Overall, we could not find a violation of journalistic principles."

But the action of the press council has not been reported in the Canadian, U.S. or UK media. Nor was the November Der Spiegel report.

The German Press Council ruling follows a December 2019 Danish Press Board ruling against another Browder complaint over an article by a Danish financial news outlet, Finans.dk, on his tax evasion and invented Magnitsky story. Significantly, both the Danish and German cases involve mainstream media, which usually toe the US-UK-NATO strategic line against Russia, which Browder's story serves. And these press complaint rulings follow a September 2019 European Court of Human Rights ruling that there was credible evidence that Magnitsky and Browder were engaged in a conspiracy to commit tax fraud and that Magnitsky was rightfully charged.

In summation, for ten years or more, no one in the West ever seriously challenged Bill Browder's account of what happened to his "lawyer" Sergei Magnitsky and his stories of corruption and malfeasance in Russia. This is what allowed him to get such influence that the Magnitsky Act was passed, despite Russia's attempts to clarify matters.

But when pressure was exerted on Germany to install a Magnitsky Act, one of their most influential journals Der Spiegel published an investigative bombshell picking apart Browder's story about his auditor Sergei Magnitsky's death. Browder immediately lashed out at Der Spiegel , accusing it of "misrepresenting the facts." However, his outraged objections backfired and resulted in a further even more damaging Der Spiegel article and a rebuke from the German Press Council.

At long last, thanks to Der Spiegel , its investigative reports have effectively rejected and discredited Browder's claim that Magnitsky was a courageous whistleblower who exposed corruption in Russia and was mercilessly killed by authorities out of revenge.

Despite this important and significant course of events, because of its imbedded Russophobia, the mainstream media have completely ignored the Der Spiegel exposé and almost nowhere has this been reported. To some extent this is because Browder has used his fortune to threaten lawsuits for anyone who challenges his version of events, effectively silencing many critics. Hence aside from people in Germany, this has been a non-event and the Browder hoax still prevails. Given this, it is important for us to publicize this revelation as best we can.

John Ryan, Ph.D. is a Retired Professor of Geography and Senior Scholar, University of Winnipeg The Untouchable Mr. Browder? The Browder affair is a heady upper-class Jewish cocktail of money, spies, politicians and international crime. Israel Shamir Is Bill Browder the Most Dangerous Man in the World? The darling of the war party needs to answer some questions Philip Giraldi


Vuki , says: Show Comment July 1, 2020 at 10:44 pm GMT

John, great article but we know that what you call "large-scale privatizations in Russia " was a large scale robbery. Even Magnitsky's mother stated that Browder is a fraud. Mr. Nekrasov whose film has been banned in many countries due to Browder's legal challenges has a reputation as a Putin critic -- After interviewing Mr. Browder in 2010 Nekrasov says he set out to make a "Magnitsky the hero" film. But as filming proceeded he "began to have doubts". More accurate would be that he smelled a rat. John, I have read many of your articles you never disappoint with your research and evidence.
Neo-Socratic , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 5:26 am GMT
Outstanding article sir. I remember when Browder popped up in the news a couple of years ago and made TV appearances on all three big networks in the same day. I was astonished that this lowlife wielded such influence in America.

Total and absolute corruption just like Weimer.

TheTrumanShow , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 5:49 am GMT
" smelled a rat "

Indeed – and very likely more than one! It should be obvious that the ease with which Browder (a complete nonentity) was able to get away with what he got away with in Russia and remain a virtually untouchable, protected free man to this day, in spite of the very significant evidence against him, would very much seem to indicate that he, much like Paul Bremer later in Iraq, was a tool of higher powers.

No Friend Of The Devil , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 6:53 am GMT
Excellent article. There is a misperception that these pathological liars are believed, since their critics are silenced. It has been my experience that that is not the case. The pathological liars are not believed. They just keep lying, sabotaging, fining, legal system stalking, shouting down their oppenents, black listing those who doubt or know that they are lying as conspiracy theorists. I've been witnessing this for far to long. It is obviously not limited to the Magnitsky Act. This country is really nothing more than a sick joke at this point. These individuals do not behave like people. They behave like mercury poisoned monsters. Maybe they are. There is no logical excuse for this insanity. However, if they were mercury poisoned monsters, they would not all always have the same insane delusions. They are extremely corrupt sadistic terrorist criminal psychopaths that have destroyed America and the rest of the world too.

They are not The Resistance, they are The Persistence! Something has to be done about them. Freedom of the press does not give people the freedom to deliberately lie. You may doubt that, however, slander, libel, and defamation of charcter suits will prove you to be wrong, in addition to providing false information that endangers human life and national security, in the case of a non person like covid that is being used to deprive people of every liberty and rights that exists, including life. They are terrorists. They cannot claim to be news journalists or investigative reporters if they simply say whatever their advertisers or the government tells them to say. If they are unable to get to the bottom of the story, when so many in the alternative media are, then they are either unqualified to do their jobs, or are simply full of shit.

I really believe that the primary intention of covid and the response to it is to get people to voluntarily give up cell phones, particularly since 5-G is so hazardous. That way, the industries will never have to admit any wrong doing about the health hazards related to cell phones and Wi-Fi.That
is what I believe. Also, you can be damn sure that the government and corporations do not like the fact that they can be embarrassed by people that they cannot prevent from embarrassing them without being accused of human rights abuses like vault7 technology.

"Did they expect us to treat them with any respect?!" – Pink Floyd Fletcher Memorial Home For Incurable Tyants

Knowing them, they probably did!

Anon [268] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 7:23 am GMT
@Vuki I had at one time a copy of a book titled "The murder of Bill Browder" by an Eastern European journalist which I have, unfortunately, misplaced. As well as being an exposè of the nefarious Mr Browder it also exposes far more serious wrongdoing against him. This book has vanished from the Google search engine (I wonder why?) so if anyone can tell me where to get a copy i would really value it
FlintWheel4 , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 7:41 am GMT
An aptly titled must read:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/harvard-boys-do-russia/

While most American's were distracted by the emerging World Wide Web, our elite were raping Russia. I'll say it again, America's "elite" raped Russia. In internet time twenty five years past puts you in prehistoric times. This is critical history that most of us missed, or more accurately wasn't available -- to the majority of us.

This was the Clinton era -- with just that you know this story can't be good. With Slick Willie's taste for skanks in a period where there is a story of beautiful impoverished young Russian women (teens likely) forming a line for one of our "elite" who was peeling off Benjamins for blowjobs in a club frequented by their foreign "advisors." Yep, I'm sure this was of no interest to William Jefferson Blythe III.

Harvard University was given a significant role in this "helping" of Russia (pardon the pun), due to the prestige of this institution, long-gone and unbeknownst to Russian elite, but hey they weren't "connected" yet. Geez, sorry about your luck. The Harvard you got was the Harvard we've been getting also, a race privileged hot bed for educating global "rapists" (or was that Brandeis University I'm thinking of?). Six of one

William Browder is a highly educated Jew (not certain about either) who's grandfather was Earl Browder, the former General Secretary of the CPUSA (that's the "Communist Party of the United States of America" for those of you who didn't know we had one). Bill Browder crowed about the irony in his grandfather being an activist for communism here in the U.S., while HE was an activist for capitalism in Russia! No, he was doing to Russia what Jews did to Russia when they hijacked the real Russian's revolution -- fucking them.

Billy Browder's book, "Red Notice," seems at first heartfelt story from a genuine American do-gooder. Oops! I missed the "A true story " tip-off. It's a self engrandizing fairy tale of a rapist's plea of innocence because "she didn't say NO."

There is MUCH more to this most interesting, world impacting historical event, that I believe is the most understated and least understood of the twentieth century, but that said, who fucked up? Certainly Yeltsin with his alcohol addled brain (likely rooted for by Russian Jews, who are the MOST notorious criminals world-wide) in trusting and believing America would help Russia! More significantly I feel America did, big-time, for acting so damn un-American. Unfortunately the America I'm dreaming of is as long-gone as Harvard and now, like Harvard has a Zionist occupied governance (if you didn't know what "ZOG" stood for). Come to think of it, we're acting much like Israel. God save America!

I can tell you one person who did not, Vladimir Ilyich Putin. Yeltsin threw Russia's doors open to the west and Putin slammed them shut. You can quibble about how he got and keeps his office, or how he enriched himself through the process, but he had a job to do and he did it well -- he saved Russia from what the west was going to continue doing to it. You may not agree with his ideology, but he is the most formidable leader the world has. I pray he leaves Russia and Russians in a better place than we're headed.

So, here we are today, where Trump is currently in the position to decide whether Russia should be invited to the next G-whatever summit:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/politics/trump-g7-russia.html

I say we're damn lucky it isn't Putin deciding whether to include Trump and the U.S., as some day it very well may be.

P.S. This is a rant of mine burning a long time for a window. Thank you John Ryan. Thank you Billy Browder. Most of all, Thank YOU Mr. Unz!

UNZ has provided a platform for authors, journalists and "knowers" from all over the world. All converging on the same theme -- there is a "they" and there is a plan. This seeming runaway train has awakened plain folks with uncommon sense and giants of intellect alike. Kudos, Ron Unz.

GMC , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 8:48 am GMT
" The western Governments are easily moved or manipulated" and have been Gang Banged – time and time again by the corrupt mafia corporations, Zionists inc., and a dozen other international gangs that are in charge of things – today. Not to mention the corrupt, treasonist nationals that work for the Western Governments. Browder's Hermitage scam just shows how easily the US Gov and others are bought and paid for – that's why the true Magnitsky lie , has to be covered up , from the public. PS – notice all the tax money Browder skimmed off the US – very visible to anyone that can smell a Rat.
jsigur , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 9:24 am GMT
I became aware of the Browder case when known controlled asset, Brandon Martinez, used his claims as a refutation of Putin which he seemed unbelievably obsessed about.
As I perused you-tube for videos on Browder, I saw that he was welcomed into all approved western media to make his case with the questioners rarely going into the material to dispute his claims. I determined at that time that Browder was part of a deep state campaign to demonize Russia under Putin leadership.
It surprises me not to hear no MSM News organization will print these latest findings since in 2012 I realized the free world and press are anything but free and lie as much or more than the most demonized communist outlets.
Not mentioned in the article that I recall is the fact that Browder's dad was the head of the Communist party in the USA before and during WWII which should be enough by itself for a legitimate news outlet to scrutinize with great vigor any claims made by the man but then we know WWII was really a war against any country willing to exercise goyim rule independent of Jewish advisors and that the US was on the side of Jewish power in that war as much as all the other wars it has engaged in.
(Its interesting that my spell check keeps telling me that there is no such word as "goyem")
Parsnipitous , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 10:09 am GMT
"But when pressure was exerted on Germany to install a Magnitsky Act, one of their most influential journals "

Der Spiegel is known as a craven Atlanticist rag. Somebody high up – possibly as a snub to the Trump admin – must have provided ass cover for it to be upheld.

Chet Roman , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 11:40 am GMT
@Anon https://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/TheKillingOfWilliamBrowder_PrintLayout_6x9-1.pdf
Saggy , says: Website Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 12:27 pm GMT
@Vuki You can see the film here


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/oJsWUlkjN6Gf/

That Browder is a crook is not surprising, the revelation is the extent to which he is supported by the establishment.

annamaria , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 12:52 pm GMT
Bill Browder has been heavily supported by Ben Cardin, a prominent zionist in the US Congress.

Browder is a mega thief (he was also involved in several deaths-on-order) who owes everything to Cardin and other zionists from the Mega Group like Lex Wexner and similar criminals:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Cardin
https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/bill-browder-escapes-again/5642767

It is the same old story of subversion of the state by the moneyed and powerful Israel-firsters.

vot tak , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT
Useful summary of browder's scam. The man managered to wield a great amount of influence in american/uk media and government, yet is only a minor player by western oligarch standards. For that he must have substantial backing. By whom?

Well he definitely is closely defended by these sources:

British Jewish businessman who challenged Putin is put on Interpol wanted list

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/british-jewish-businessman-who-challenged-putin-is-put-on-interpol-wanted-list-1.446467

Be careful of Putin, he is a true enemy of Jews

https://www.thejc.com/culture/books/be-careful-of-putin-he-is-a-true-enemy-of-jews-1.61745

Who has the power to control media and western governments to such a tight degree?

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT
Bill Browder is a thief, a typical representative of a flock of Western vultures that landed in 1990s Russia to steal state assets. When his thievery was curbed by Putin, he got angry and vengeful, like a scorned lover. He manufactured and spread lies to whip up an anti-Putin campaign in the West. His "narrative" was eagerly supported by the neocons and other scum, as it was in line with their "narrative". Naturally, the first things about Browder any honest investigator or journalist would unearth were lies and fraud. Just as naturally, the scum and scum-controlled Western MSM keep spreading lies supporting their "narrative", and ignoring numerous facts that contradict it.
Alfred , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 3:31 pm GMT
There is an interesting connection between Bill Bowder, Robert Maxwell, Bill Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and others. They are all members of "CLUB"

There are many more revealing articles on Martin Armstrong's blog. Browder is one of the biggest scumbags to ever walk on this earth. He is trying to start a war against Russia – because they took away some of the things he had stolen. An absolute arsehole.

Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested – Clinton's & Epstein's Lover | Armstrong Economics

Really No Shit , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 3:55 pm GMT
Ben Cardin must feel like a schmuck given Ben Bidder's exposé in the Der Spiegel but having suborned the late drama queen Johnny McCain in supporting him in his efforts to protect a fellow tribesman, the noodge won't make any effort to rescind the illicit bill now that's the power of corruption!

[Jun 24, 2020] Behind the veil of the protest movement, the war on the American people is gaining pace by Mike Whitney

Notable quotes:
"... It's because the Democrats think that kowtowing to BLM will give them the winning edge in the November balloting. That's what it's all about. That's why they draped themselves in Kente cloth and knelt for the cameras. They think their black constituents are too stupid to see through their groveling fakery. They think that blacks will forget that Joe Biden pushed through legislation "which eliminated parole for federal prisoners and limited the amount of time sentences could be reduced for good behavior." ..."
"... The stupidity of the Dems was shown this week when they agreed to three Biden/Trump debates. They should leave him in his basement and hope for the best. They feature political ads where Biden slurs his speech! These are professionals, so it tells me they spent all day and did 40 takes and this was the best he could do. The election will be great comedy, or perhaps ..."
"... Clinton is the best evidence that certain people agree to be blackmailed in exchange for power, as Andrew Anglin wrote this week. ..."
Jun 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

"This is not a momentary civil disturbance. This is a serious, and highly organized political movement It is deep and profound and has vast political ambitions. It is insidious, it will grow. It's goal is to end liberal democracy and challenge western civilization itself. This is an ideological movement Even now, many of us pretend this is about police brutality. We think we can fix it by regulating chokeholds or spending more on de-escalation training. We're too literal and good-hearted to understand what's happening. But we have no idea what we are up against. ..These are not protests. This is a totalitarian political movement and someone needs to save the country from it." Tucker Carlson

Tucker Carlson is right, the protests and riots are not a momentary civil disturbance. They are an attack the Constitutional Republic itself, the heart and soul of American democracy. The Black Lives Matter protests are just the tip of the spear, they are an expression of public outrage that is guaranteed under the first amendment. But don't be deceived, there's more here than meets the eye. BLM is funded by foundations that seek to overthrow our present form of government and install an authoritarian regime guided by technocrats, oligarchs and corporatists all of who believe that Chinese-type despotism is far-more compatible with capitalism than "inefficient" democracy. The chaos in the streets is merely the beginning of an excruciating transition from one system to another. This is an excerpt from an article by F. William Engdahl at Global Research:

"By 2016, Black Lives Matter had established itself as a well-organized network .. That year the Ford Foundation and Borealis Philanthropy announced the formation of the Black-Led Movement Fund (BLMF), "a six-year pooled donor campaign aimed at raising $100 million for the Movement for Black Lives coalition" in which BLM was a central part. By then Soros foundations had already given some $33 million in grants to the Black Lives Matter movement .. ..

The BLMF identified itself as being created by top foundations including in addition to the Ford Foundation, the Kellogg Foundation and the Soros Open Society Foundations." ( "America's Own Color Revolution ", Global Research)

$100 million is alot of money. How has that funding helped BLM expand its presence in politics and social media? How many activists and paid employees operate within the network disseminating information, building new chapters, hosting community outreach programs, and fine-tuning an emergency notification system that allows them to put tens of thousands of activists on the streets in cities across the country at a moment's notice? Isn't that what we've seen for the last three weeks, throngs of angry protestors swarming in more than 400 cities across America all at the beck-and-call of a shadowy group whose political intentions are still not clear?

And what about the rioting, looting and arson that broke out in numerous cities following the protests? Was that part of the script too? Why haven't BLM leaders condemned the destruction of private property or offered a public apology for the downtown areas that have been turned into wastelands? In my own hometown of Seattle, the downtown corridor– which once featured Nordstrom, Pottery Barn and other upscale retail shops– is now a checkerboard of broken glass, plywood covers and empty streets all covered in a thick layer of garish spray-paint. The protest leaders said they wanted to draw attention to racial injustice and police brutality. Okay, but how does looting Nordstrom help to achieve that goal?

And what role have the Democrats played in protest movement?

They've been overwhelmingly supportive, that's for sure. In fact, I can't think of even one Democrat who's mentioned the violence, the looting or the toppling of statues. Why is that?

It's because the Democrats think that kowtowing to BLM will give them the winning edge in the November balloting. That's what it's all about. That's why they draped themselves in Kente cloth and knelt for the cameras. They think their black constituents are too stupid to see through their groveling fakery. They think that blacks will forget that Joe Biden pushed through legislation "which eliminated parole for federal prisoners and limited the amount of time sentences could be reduced for good behavior."

According to the Black Agenda Repor t: "Biden and (South Carolina's Strom) Thurmond joined hands to push 1986 and 1988 drug enforcement legislation that created the nefarious sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine as well as other draconian measures that implicate him as one of the initiators of what became mass incarceration. " Biden also spearheaded "the attacks on Anita Hill when she came forward to testify against the supreme court nominee Clarence Thomas". All told, Biden's record on race is much worse than Trump's despite the media's pathetic attempts to portray Trump as Adolph Hitler. It's just more bunkum from the dissembling media.

Bottom line: The Democrats think they can ride racial division and social unrest all the way to the White House. That's what they are betting on.

So, yes, the Dems are exploiting the protests for political advantage, but it goes much deeper than that. After all, we know from evidence that was uncovered during the Russiagate investigation, that DNC leaders are intimately linked to the Intel agencies, law enforcement (FBI), and the elite media. So it's not too much of a stretch to assume that these deep state agents and assets work together to shape the narrative that they think gives them the best chance of regaining power. Because, that's what this is really all about, power. Just as Russiagate was about power (removing the president using disinformation, spies, surveillance and other skulduggery.), and just as the Covid-19 fiasco was essentially about power (collapsing the economy while imposing medical martial law on the population.), so too, the BLM protest movement is also about power, the power to inflict massive damage on the country's main urban centers with the intention of destabilizing the government, restructuring the economy and paving the way for a Democratic victory in November. It's all about power, real, unalloyed political muscle.

Surprisingly, one of the best critiques of what is currently transpiring was written by Niles Niemuth at the World Socialist Web Site. Here's what he said about the widespread toppling of statues:

"The attacks on the monuments were pioneered by the increasingly frenzied attempt by the Democratic Party and the New York Times to racialize American history, to create a narrative in which the history of mankind is reduced to the history of racial struggle. This campaign has produced a pollution of democratic consciousness, which meshes entirely with the reactionary political interests driving it.

It is worth noting that the one institution seemingly immune from this purge is the Democratic Party, which served as the political wing of the Confederacy and, subsequently, the KKK.

This filthy historical legacy is matched only by the Democratic Party's contemporary record in supporting wars that, as a matter of fact, primarily targeted nonwhites. Democrats supported the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and under Obama destroyed Libya and Syria. The New York Times was a leading champion and propagandist for all of these war." ( "Hands off the monuments to Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Grant!, WSWS)

What the author is referring to is The 1619 Project, which is a racialized version of American history that was published by the Times on August 19, 2019. The deliberately-distorted version of history was cobbled together in anticipation of increasing social unrest and racial antagonism. The rioting, looting and vast destruction of America's urban core can all be traced back to a document that postulates that the country was founded on racial hatred and exploitation. In other words, The 1619 Project provides the perfect ideological justification for the chaos and violence that has torn the country apart for the last three weeks. This is an excerpt from an article at the World Socialist Web Site:

"The essays featured in the magazine are organized around the central premise that all of American history is rooted in race hatred -- specifically, the uncontrollable hatred of "black people" by "white people." Hannah-Jones writes in the series' introduction: "Anti-black racism runs in the very DNA of this country. "

This is a false and dangerous conception. DNA is a chemical molecule that contains the genetic code of living organisms and determines their physical characteristics and development . Hannah-Jones's reference to DNA is part of a growing tendency to derive racial antagonisms from innate biological processes .where does this racism come from? It is embedded, claims Hannah-Jones, in the historical DNA of American "white people." Thus, it must persist independently of any change in political or economic conditions .

. No doubt, the authors of The Project 1619 essays would deny that they are predicting race war, let alone justifying fascism. But ideas have a logic; and authors bear responsibility for the political conclusions and consequences of their false and misguided arguments." ("The New York Times's 1619 Project: A racialist falsification of American and world history", World Socialist Web Site)

Keep in mind, this essay in the WSWS was written a full year before BLM protests broke out across the country. Was Hannah-Jones enlisted to create a document that would provide the dry tinder for the massive and coordinated demonstrations that have left the country stunned and divided?

Probably, after all, (as noted above) the author's theory is that one race is genetically programed to exploit the other. ( "Anti-black racism runs in the very DNA of this country. ") Well, if we assume that whites are genetically and irreversibly "racist", then we must also assume that the country that these whites founded is racist and evil. Thus, the only logical remedy for this situation, is to crush the white segment of the population, destroy their symbols, icons, and history, and replace the system of government with one that better reflects the values of the emerging non-Caucasian majority. Simply put, The Project 1619 creates the rationale for sustained civil unrest, deepening political polarization and violent revolution.

The 1619 Project is a calculated provocation meant to exacerbate racial animosities and pave the way to open conflagration. And it has succeeded beyond anyone's wildest imagination. The nation is split into warring camps while Washington has devolved into fratricidal warfare. Was that the objective, to destabilize the country in preparation for the dissolution of the current system followed by a fundamental restructuring of the government consistent with the identity politics lauded by the Democrats?

The Democrats, the Intel agencies and the media are all in bed together fomenting unrest with the intention of decimating the economy, crushing the emerging opposition and imposing their despotic one-party system on all of us. Here's a clip from a piece by Paul Craig Roberts that sums up the role of the New York Times in inciting race-based violence:

"The New York Times editorial board covers up the known indisputable truth with their anti-white "1619 project," an indoctrination program to inculcate hatred of white people in blacks and guilt in white people.

Why does the New York Times lie, brainwash blacks into hatred of whites, and attempt to brainwash whites into guilt for the creation of a New World labor force four centuries ago? Why do Americans tolerate the New York Times fomenting of racial hatred in a multicultural society?

The New York Times is a vile organization. The New York Times attempts to discredit the President of the United States and did all it could to frame him on false charges. The New York Times painted General Flynn, who honorably served the US, as a Russian agent and enabled General Flynn's frame-up on false and now dropped charges. The New York Times spews hatred of white people. And now the New York Times accuses the American military of celebrating white supremacism.

Does America have a worse enemy than the New York Times? The New York Times is clearly and intentionally making a multicultural America impossible . By threatening white people with the prospect of hate-driven racial violence, the New York Times editorial board is fomenting the rise of white supremacy." ( "The New York Times Editorial Board Is a Threat to Multicultural America ", The Unz Review)

The editors of the Times don't hate whites, they are merely attacking the growing number of disillusioned white working people who have left the Democratic party in frustration due to their globalist policies regarding trade, immigration, offshoring, outsourcing and the relentless hollowing out of the nation's industrial core . The Dems have abandoned these people altogether and –now that they realize they will never be able to lure them back into their camp– they've decided to wage a full-blown, scorched-earth, take-no-prisoners war on them. They've decided to crush them mercilessly and fill their ranks with multi-ethnic, bi-racial groups that will work for pennies on the dollar. (which will keep the Dems corporate supporters happy.) So, no, the Times does not hate white people. What they hate is the growing populist movement that derailed Hillary Clinton and put anti-globalist Trump in the White House. That's the real target of this operation, the disillusioned throng of working people who have washed their hands of the Democrats for good. Here's more background from Paul Craig Roberts:

"On August 12 Dean Baquet, executive editor of the New York Times, met with the Times' employees to refocus the Times' attack on Trump . The Times, Baquet said, is shifting from Trump-Russia to Trump's racism. The Times will spend the run-up to the 2020 presidential election building the Trump-is-a-racist narrative. Of course, if Trump is a racist it means that the people who elected him are also racists. Indeed, in Baquet's view, Americans have always been racist. To establish this narrative, the New York Times has launched the "1619 Project," the purpose of which is "to reframe the country's history."

According to the Washington Examiner, "The basic thrust of the 1619 Project is that everything in American history is explained by slavery and race. The message is woven throughout the first publication of the project, an entire edition of the Times magazine. It begins with an overview of race in America -- 'Our democracy's founding ideals were false when they were written. Black Americans have fought to make them true.'

The premise that America originated as a racist slave state is to be woven into all sections of the Times -- news, business, sports, travel, the entire newspaper. The project intends to take the "reframing" of the United States into the schools where white Americans are to be taught that they are racist descendants of slave holders. A participant in this brainwashing of whites, which will make whites guilty and defenseless, says "this project takes wing when young people are able to read this and understand the way that slavery has shaped their country's history." In other words, the New York Times intends to make slavery the ONLY explanation of America.

At the meeting of the executive editor of the New York Times with the Times' employees to refocus the Times' attack on President Trump, Baquet said: "Race in the next year is going to be a huge part of the American story." ( "Is White Genocide Possible? ", The Unz Review)

Repeat: "Race in the next year is going to be a huge part of the American story." Either Baquet has a crystal ball or he had a pretty good idea of the way in which the 1619 Project was going to be used . I suspect it was the latter.

For the last 3 and a half years, Democrats and the media have ridiculed anyone who opposes their globalist policies as racist, fascist, misogynist, homophobic, Bible-thumping, gun-toting, flag-waving, Nascar boosting, white nationalist "deplorables". Now they have decided to intensify the assault on mainly white working people by preemptively destroying the economy, destabilizing the country, and spreading terror far and wide. It's another vicious psy-ops campaign designed to thoroughly demoralize and humiliate the enemy who just happen to be the American people. Here's more form the WSWS:

" It is no coincidence that the promotion of this racial narrative of American history by the Times, the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party and the privileged upper-middle-class layers it represents, comes amid the growth of class struggle in the US and around the world.

The 1619 Project is one component of a deliberate effort to inject racial politics into the heart of the 2020 elections and foment divisions among the working class. The Democrats think it will be beneficial to shift their focus for the time being from the reactionary, militarist anti-Russia campaign to equally reactionary racial politics." (" The New York Times's 1619 Project: A racialist falsification of American and world history " WSWS)

Can you see how the protests are being used to promote the political objectives of elites operating behind the mask of "impartial" reporting? The scheming NY Times has replaced the enlightenment principles articulated in our founding documents with a sordid tale of racial hatred and oppression. The editors seek to eliminate everything we believe as Americans so they can brainwash us into believing that we are evil people deserving of humiliation, repudiation and punishment. Here's more from the same article:

"In the months preceding these events, the New York Times, speaking for dominant sections of the Democratic political establishment, launched an effort to discredit both the American Revolution and the Civil War. In the New York Times' 1619 Project, the American Revolution was presented as a war to defend slavery, and Abraham Lincoln was cast as a garden variety racist

The attacks on the monuments to these men were pioneered by the increasingly frenzied attempt by the Democratic Party and the New York Times to racialize American history, to create a narrative in which the history of mankind is reduced to the history of racial struggle . This campaign has produced a pollution of democratic consciousness, which meshes entirely with the reactionary political interests driving it." (" The New York Times's 1619 Project: A racialist falsification of American and world history" , WSWS)

Ideas have consequences, and the incendiary version of events disseminated by the Times has added fuel to a fire that's spread from one coast to the other. Given the damage that has been done to cities across the country, it would be nice to know how Dean Baquet knew that "race was going to play a huge part" in upcoming events? It's all very suspicious. Here's more:

" Given the 1619 Project's black nationalist narrative, it may appear surprising that nowhere in the issue do the names Malcolm X or Black Panthers appear. Unlike the black nationalists of the 1960s, Hannah-Jones does not condemn American imperialism. She boasts that "we [i.e. African-Americans] are the most likely of all racial groups to serve in the United States military," and celebrates the fact that "we" have fought "in every war this nation has waged." Hannah-Jones does not note this fact in a manner that is at all critical. She does not condemn the creation of a "volunteer" army whose recruiters prey on poverty-stricken minority youth. There is no indication that Hannah-Jones opposes the "War on Terror" and the brutal interventions in Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Syria -- all supported by the Times -- that have killed and made homeless upwards of 20 million people. On this issue, Hannah-Jones is remarkably "color-blind." She is unaware of, or simply indifferent to, the millions of "people of color" butchered and made refugees by the American war machine in the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa." (" The New York Times's 1619 Project: A racialist falsification of American and world histor y", WSWS)

So, black nationalists like Malcolm X and the Black Panthers are excluded from the The 1619 Project's narrative, but the author boasts that blacks "are the most likely of all racial groups to serve in the US military"?? How does that happen unless Hannah-Jones was coached by Democrat leaders about who should and shouldn't be included in the text? None of this passes the smell test. It all suggests that the storyline was shaped by people who had a specific goal in mind. That isn't history, it's fiction written by people who have an ax to grind. The Times even admitted as much in response to the blistering criticism by five of "the most widely read and respected authorities on US history." The New York Times Magazine editor in chief Jake Silverstein rejected the historians' objections saying:

"The project was intended to address the marginalization of African-American history in the telling of our national story and examine the legacy of slavery in contemporary American life. We are not ourselves historians, it is true. We are journalists, trained to look at current events and situations and ask the question: Why is this the way it is?"

WTF! "We are not ourselves historians"? That's the excuse?? Give me a break!

The truth is that there was never any attempt to provide an accurate account of events. From the very onset, the goal was to create a storyline that fit the politics, the politics of provocation, incitement, racial hatred, social unrest and violence. That's what the Times and their allies wanted, and that's what they got.

The Deep State Axis: CIA, DNC, NYT

The three-way alliance between the CIA, the Elite Media, and the Democratic leadership has clearly strengthened and grown since the failed Russiagate fiasco. All three parties were likely involved in the maniacal hyping of the faux-Covid pandemic which paved the way for Depression era unemployment, tens of thousands of bankrupt businesses and a sizable portion of the US population thrust into destitution. Now, these deep state loyalists are promoting a "falsified" race-based version of history that pits one group against the other while diverting attention from the deliberate destruction of the economy and the further consolidation of wealth in the hands of the 1 percent.

Behind the veil of the protest movement, the war on the American people is gaining pace.


SteveK9 , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:02 am GMT

Stopped reading the Times after the buildup to the Iraq War, when it was clear they were lying. Everyone please stop reading the Times, and in particular stop referring to what they are writing. Act like they don't exist. If enough do, they won't.
FB , says: Website Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 4:22 am GMT
Stopped reading when I got to 'Chinese despotism'

Whitney used to have something to say, but his scribblings now go straight to the bottom of the bird cage

Carlton Meyer , says: Website Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 4:22 am GMT
The stupidity of the Dems was shown this week when they agreed to three Biden/Trump debates. They should leave him in his basement and hope for the best. They feature political ads where Biden slurs his speech! These are professionals, so it tells me they spent all day and did 40 takes and this was the best he could do. The election will be great comedy, or perhaps

This is all planned. Biden will be forced to drop out and Bloomberg or even Clinton will arise.

vot tak , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 4:30 am GMT
"Tucker Carlson is right, the protests and riots are not a momentary civil disturbance. They are an attack the Constitutional Republic itself, the heart and soul of American democracy."

I am reminded of david horowitz and chrissy hitchens

And how they promoted Israeli interests after first pretending to be independent thinkers to gain creed for the switch. Standard zionazi-gay psywar tactic.

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 4:42 am GMT
@Carlton Meyer

The stupidity of the Dems was shown this week when they agreed to three Biden/Trump debates.

This is all planned. Biden will be forced to drop out and Bloomberg or even Clinton will arise.

Stupid and planned?

Clinton is the best evidence that certain people agree to be blackmailed in exchange for power, as Andrew Anglin wrote this week. Why should DNC care if Trump is 're-elected'? And if they don't care, who not take a stab at installing an intersectional DNC pinnacle fraudster via the griftiest, most insulting, infuriating way possible? They can't lose.

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It is difficult to find anything good to say about Donald Trump, but the reality is that he has not started any new wars, though he has come dangerously close in the cases of Venezuela and Iran and there would be considerable incentive in the next four months to begin something to bolster his "strong president" credentials and to serve as a distraction from coronavirus and black lives matter.

Be that as it may, Trump will have to run hard to catch up to the record set by his three predecessors Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama. Bush was an out-and-out neoconservative, or at least someone who was easily led, including in his administration Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen, Reuel Gerecht, Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, Eliot Abrams, Dan Senor and Scooter Libby. He also had the misfortune of having to endure Vice President Dick Cheney, who thought he was actually the man in charge. All were hawks who believed that the United States had the right to do whatever it considered necessary to enhance its own security, to include invading other countries, which led to Afghanistan and Iraq, where the U.S. still has forces stationed nearly twenty years later.

Clinton and Obama were so-called liberal interventionists who sought to export something called democracy to other countries in an attempt to make them more like Peoria. Clinton bombed Afghanistan and Sudan as a diversion when the press somehow caught wind of his arrangement with Monica Lewinsky and Obama, aided by Mrs. Clinton, chose to destroy Libya. Obama was also the first president to set up a regular Tuesday morning session to review a list of American citizens who would benefit from being killed by drone.

So the difference between neocons and liberal interventionists is one of style rather than substance. And, by either yardstick all-in-all, Trump looks pretty good, but there has nevertheless been a resurgence of neocon-think in his administration. The America the exceptional mindset is best exemplified currently by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who personifies the belief that the United States is empowered by God to play only by its own rules when dealing with other nations. That would include following the advice that has been attributed to leading neocon Michael Ledeen, " Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business. "

One of the first families within the neocon/liberal interventionist firmament is the Kagans, Robert and Frederick. Frederick is a Senior Fellow at the neocon American Enterprise Institute and his wife Kimberly heads the bizarrely named Institute for the Study of War. Victoria Nuland, wife of Robert, is currently the Senior Counselor at the Albright Stonebridge Group and a Nonresident Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution. That means that Victoria aligns primarily as a liberal interventionist, as does her husband, who is also at Brookings. She is regarded as a protégé of Hillary Clinton and currently works with former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who once declared that killing 500,000 Iraqi children using sanctions was "worth it." Nuland also has significant neocon connections through her having been a member of the staff assembled by Dick Cheney.

Nuland, many will recall, was the driving force behind efforts to destabilize the Ukrainian government of President Viktor Yanukovych in 2013-2014. Yanukovych, an admittedly corrupt autocrat, nevertheless became Prime Minister after a free election. Nuland, who was the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the State Department, provided open support to the Maidan Square demonstrators opposed to Yanukovych's government, to include media friendly appearances passing out cookies on the square to encourage the protesters.

Nuland openly sought regime change for Ukraine by brazenly supporting government opponents in spite of the fact that Washington and Kiev had ostensibly friendly relations. It is hard to imagine that any U.S. administration would tolerate a similar attempt by a foreign nation to interfere in U.S. domestic politics, particularly if it were backed by a $5 billion budget , but Washington has long believed in a global double standard for evaluating its own behavior.

Nuland is most famous for her foul language when referring to the potential European role in managing the unrest that she and the National Endowment for Democracy had helped create in Ukraine. For Nuland, the replacement of the government in Kiev was only the prelude to a sharp break and escalating conflict with the real enemy, Moscow, over Russia's attempts to protect its own interests in Ukraine, most particularly in Crimea.

And make no mistake about Nuland's broader intention at that time to expand the conflict and directly confront Russia. In Senate testimony she cited how the administration was "providing support to other frontline states like Moldova and Georgia." Her use of the word "frontline" is suggestive.

Victoria Nuland was playing with fire. Russia, as the only nation with the military capability to destroy the U.S., was and is not a sideshow like Saddam Hussein's Iraq or the Taliban's Afghanistan. Backing Moscow into a corner with no way out by using threats and sanctions is not good policy. Washington has many excellent reasons to maintain a stable relationship with Moscow, including counter-terrorism efforts, and little to gain from moving in the opposite direction. Russia is not about to reconstitute the Warsaw Pact and there is no compelling reason to return to a Cold War footing by either arming Ukraine or permitting it to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

Victoria Nuland has just written a long article for July/August issue of Foreign Affairs magazine on the proper way for the United States manage what she sees as the Russian "threat." It is entitled "How a Confident America Should Deal With Russia." Foreign Affairs , it should be observed, is an establishment house organ produced by the Council on Foreign Relations which provides a comfortable perch for both neocons and liberal interventionists.

Nuland's view is that the United States lost confidence in its own "ability to change the game" against Vladimir Putin, who has been able to play "a weak hand well because the United States and its allies have let him, allowing Russia to violate arms control treaties, international law, the sovereignty of its neighbors, and the integrity of elections in the United States and Europe Washington and its allies have forgotten the statecraft that won the Cold War and continued to yield results for many years after. That strategy required consistent U.S. leadership at the presidential level, unity with democratic allies and partners, and a shared resolve to deter and roll back dangerous behavior by the Kremlin. It also included incentives for Moscow to cooperate and, at times, direct appeals to the Russian people about the benefits of a better relationship. Yet that approach has fallen into disuse, even as Russia's threat to the liberal world has grown."

What Nuland writes would make perfect sense if one were to share her perception of Russia as a rogue state threatening the "liberal world." She sees Russian rearmament under Putin as a threat even though it was dwarfed by the spending of NATO and the U.S. She shares her fear that Putin might seek " reestablishing a Russian sphere of influence in eastern Europe and from vetoing the security arrangements of his neighbors. Here, a chasm soon opened between liberal democracies and the still very Soviet man leading Russia, especially on the subject of NATO enlargement. No matter how hard Washington and its allies tried to persuade Moscow that NATO was a purely defensive alliance that posed no threat to Russia, it continued to serve Putin's agenda to see Europe in zero-sum terms."

Nuland's view of NATO enlargement is so wide of the mark that it borders on being a fantasy. Of course, Russia would consider a military alliance on its doorstep to be a threat, particularly as a U.S. Administration had provided assurances that expansion would not take place. She goes on to suggest utter nonsense, that Putin's great fear over the NATO expansion derives from his having " always understood that a belt of increasingly democratic, prosperous states around Russia would pose a direct challenge to his leadership model and risk re-infecting his own people with democratic aspirations."

Nuland goes on and on in a similar vein, but her central theme is that Russia must be confronted to deter Vladimir Putin, a man that she clearly hates and depicts as if he were a comic book version of evil. Some of her analysis is ridiculous, as "Russian troops regularly test the few U.S. forces left in Syria to try to gain access to the country's oil fields and smuggling routes. If these U.S. troops left, nothing would prevent Moscow and Tehran from financing their operations with Syrian oil or smuggled drugs and weapons."

Like most zealots, Nuland is notably lacking in any sense of self-criticism. She conspired to overthrow a legitimately elected democratic government in Ukraine because it was considered too friendly to Russia. She accuses the Kremlin of having "seized" Crimea, but fails to see the heavy footprint of the U.S. military in Afghanistan and Iraq and as a regional enabler of Israeli and Saudi war crimes. One wonders if she is aware that Russia, which she sees as expansionistic, has only one overseas military base while the United States has more than a thousand.

Nuland clearly chooses not to notice the White House's threats against countries that do not toe the American line, most recently Iran and Venezuela, but increasingly also China on top of perennial enemy Russia. None of those nations threaten the United States and all the kinetic activity and warnings are forthcoming from a gentleman named Mike Pompeo, speaking from Washington, not from "undemocratic" leaders in the Kremlin, Tehran, Caracas or Beijing.

Victoria Nuland recommends that "The challenge for the United States in 2021 will be to lead the democracies of the world in crafting a more effective approach to Russia -- one that builds on their strengths and puts stress on Putin where he is vulnerable, including among his own citizens." Interestingly, that might be regarded as seeking to interfere in the workings of a foreign government, reminiscent of the phony case made against Russia in 2016. And it is precisely what Nuland did in fact do in Ukraine.

Nuland has a lot more to say in her article and those who are interested in the current state of interventionism in Washington should not ignore her. Confronting Russia as some kind of ideological enemy is a never-ending process that leaves both sides poorer and less free. It is appropriate for Moscow to have an interest in what goes on right on top of its border while the United States five thousand miles away and possessing both a vastly larger economy and armed forces can, one would think, relax a bit and unload the burden of being the world's self-appointed policeman.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


Carlton Meyer , says: Website Show Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:18 am GMT

This is a great overview, but Americans cannot understand these truths after hours of constant propaganda in our media. For example, Hillary Clinton and President Obama destroyed and looted Africa's most prosperous nation in 2011 that resulted in tens of thousands of deaths of innocents. This is not in dispute, it is just ignored despite daily stories about the chaos in Libya. Imagine if Black Lives Matters dared protest against this destruction and looting of Africa's wealthiest nation and demanded that Clinton and Obama be arrested for war crimes.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/n5Lh4HUyudk?feature=oembed

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:45 am GMT
Fact is that many leaders in history did solve the inside problems of their country by outside war.
There is certainly a bit of elevated temperature.
anon [437] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:47 am GMT
Thank you for another great article.

but
there is one thing

You wrote:

" It is hard to imagine that any U.S. administration would tolerate a similar attempt by a foreign nation to interfere in U.S. domestic politics, particularly if it were backed by a $5 billion budget, "

As you yourself have pointed out, more than once, in fact, there actually is a foreign country which, more than, interferes in U.S. domestic policy, some would estimate, effectively controls it, and foreign policy, as well.

While it would a bit of an effort to monetize the full amount spent on this effort, I personally would not be a bit surprised if it were significantly larger than $5 billion, and despite that, one could imagine, quite a bargain in terms of their ROI; it could in fact be considerably less than the overt transfer of sovereign U.S. wealth to that foreign government every year.

The past administrations, either every one, or almost every one, going back as far as Truman, certainly , but the trend was already well established during the puppet presidency of Woodrow Wilson.

I'd love to read your rejoinder.

onetribe
being blocked incorrectly from using my usual handle

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:56 am GMT
@Carlton Meyer

Imagine if Black Lives Matters dared protest against this destruction and looting of Africa's wealthiest nation and demanded that Clinton and Obama be arrested for war crimes.

An admirable sentiment, except that the BLM movement appears to be little more than a vehicle for staged chaos nurtured behind the scenes by more war criminals with a hidden agenda.

And more's the pity, because there are hordes of high-ranking war criminals in the Exceptional Nation that richly deserve burning at the stake. In the Libyan context, Muammar Gaddafi was not only a great leader but also a good man, who was doing great things not only for his own people but also for the community of African nations.

If you're going to have a dictator, make sure you get a good one. Gaddafi was a good one.

Trump not so much, but Clinton was and is horrifically evil.

Alfred , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:05 am GMT
The war against Russia has been going on for centuries. Nothing upsets these nutters more than the Russians insulating themselves from the mental virus that has proliferated in the West.

Just read the sour grapes of the usual suspects in this derogatory article. Similar in tone to the nonsense at the Sochi Winter Olympics in 2014. Nothing amuses me more than to watch them vomiting on themselves in frustration.

Moscow, low-key consecration of Victory Cathedral; Catholics denied another church

Anon [233] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:06 am GMT
Nuland's views are, as stated in the article, dangerous fantasy-one could almost accuse her of having psychopathic voices in her head with respect to russia and putin.

It is indeed remarkable in a very bad way that this woman was close to the top level in state under obama but we can surely see her handiwork in the devastation of the ukraine nation.

Biff , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:13 am GMT
@Carlton Meyer

Imagine if Black Lives Matters dared protest against this destruction and looting of Africa's wealthiest nation and demanded that Clinton and Obama be arrested for war crimes.

My imagination:
An agitator is planted inside BLM, and is armed and equipped to carry out a terrorist attack on the American people as false flag event – blows up a weight-watchers convention, next to a Wal-mart, and puts a half-a-dozen fat bodies into orbit circling the globe(celestial bodies). After said attack BLM is defunded, and disbanded(but the race war continues).

Chris Moore , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:34 am GMT
You forgot to mention that virtually all of the neocon/liberal interventionist "intellectuals"on your list identify as Jewish, which means they see themselves as having Hebrew backgrounds, which not only gives them an Israel First/Zionist orientation, but which means their hatred of "anti-Semitic" Russia is pathological and ancestral, which means their hatred of "anti-Semitic" Europeans is pathological and ancestral, which means their hatred of "anti-Semitic" white people is pathological and ancestral, which means their desire for nuclear war between whites is pathological and ancestral, which means they believe they can win a nuclear war (perhaps by sheltering in bunker state Israel) and emerge as the anointed "chosen" intellectual priest class of the world

So there is a kind of internal logic or rationalism to their insanity, in the same way that any insular, imperious elite suffering from megalomania and delusions of grandeur can develop internal, echo chamber "logic" that is (objectively) insane. The difference is, their insane "logic" is additionally sanctioned by their particular God or their particular History or their version of God/History.

Hence, with this cult, we not only get insular, echo-chamber imperialism, but we additionally get quasi-religious, messianic fanaticism that will view any nuclear war as pre-ordained fate in service of delivering the Chosen Ones to the world.

And half of America thinks Trump is nuts? It should look at the "intellectual Jews" it's so desperate to consign its fate to.

ThreeCranes , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:35 am GMT
Posturing. What else can this be, coming from the lips of a Jewish woman? It all just sounds so ridiculous. What authority does she have? Only the threat of force, reckless force dispensed with abandon. That's not authority. It's insanity.
Mr. Hack , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:35 am GMT
Another critique of US foreign policy regarding Russia, all referenced under the famous "cookies and milk" response of Ms. Nuland in Kyiv. Lucky for Russia that she wasn't doling out scoops of ice cream instead?

For Nuland, the replacement of the government in Kiev was only the prelude to a sharp break and escalating conflict with the real enemy, Moscow, over Russia's attempts to protect its own interests in Ukraine, most particularly in Crimea.

I applaud the US response of supporting Ukraine's aspirations for a freer more Western oriented country and that it continues to support Ukraine's territorial interests over those of Russia's. It's time for the Giraldis and Cohens of the world to shed their Russian fig leaf covering and be exposed as the gutless appeasers that they really are.

Mustapha Mond , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:41 am GMT
Victoria Nuland (her family name formerly Nudelman) and her blood-thirsty, thieving zionist neocon buddies would love nothing more than to tear Russia apart and finish the rape and plunder of that country first begun under Russia's 'reformer' president, the idiot Yeltsin, wherein mostly jewish Russian and American oligarchs systematically stole what amounts to about $330 billion dollars of Russia's wealth.

That these zionist neocon murderers and thieves would put the world at risk to achieve their goals is no surprise, as one need only look at the 3,000+ innocent American lives, including many Jews, that were snuffed out on 9/11, all to set the stage for the US and allies' "War of Terror" against mainly the enemies of Israel, and to line the pockets of the ever-growing Military-Information-Security Complex. Innocent lives mean absolutely nothing to these monsters.

The campaign against Russia is simply another necessary link in the chain that binds the world to the PNAC vision of using the US and the West to establish and maintain what is essentially a Jewish supremacist movement that barely conceals itself and its nefarious agenda from the useful idiot goyim so necessary to carry forward the PNAC's plan for world domination. And the chubby little Ms Nudelman is just another tireless zionist mouthpiece for this ugly, obnoxious and risky agenda

Mr. Hack , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:47 am GMT
Giraldi would have us believe that it was all a US sponsored provocation, not the natural outcry of the Ukrainiain people seeking change from a thoroughly corrupt and authoritarian regime. Ms.Nuland's cookies must have tasted really good to get the massive outpouring of support in Kiev that demanded systemic change.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-nNFrvGOb9o?feature=oembed

chris , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:11 am GMT
A major indicator of how long-term foreign policy goals are actually set by the US was revealed when Obama declared Venezuela a threat to national security in 2015!
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-declares-venezuela-national-security-threat-imposes-sanctions

Venezuela? A threat to US national security?? Sounds completely absurd.

But if you consider your 'national security' being threatened whenever any scarce natural resources in the world are not in your or in your client states' posession, then anthing which interferes with that is a "threat!" Iran (before 2003), Iraq, and Russia certainly fit the bill of being enemies.

This explanation, for me, is much more realistic than to think the neocons are solely driven by cold war mentalities.

The neocons are particularly peeved at Russia because through their oligarchs, they had the crown jewels in their hand before Putin wrested it out. It was always clear from the beginning that the overthrow of the Ukraine government was always just a stepping stone to the overthrow of Putin in Russia.

Russia is truly the mother load, with control over its natural resources, you control China, undermine the Middle Eastern Arab states and if necessary control Europe financially. Besides the direct political control you then exercise, on an economic level, the productive people of the world Germany and China then work for you.

roonaldo , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:13 am GMT
Nuland and her ilk will be spewing their dangerous nonsense and banging the drums of war like homicidal energizer bunnies until hell freezes over. Meanwhile, "from Atlantic to Pacific, the insanity is terrific," as the nation devolves in an engineered mass hysteria. As things go down the tubes, the Empire will get ever more desperate, rather than easing back a bit on the throttle. With Donald Boy and Sec. of State "Plump-piehole" egging on Israeli expansionist dreams and drone-executing whomever they please–what could possibly go wrong? I'm waiting for one, just one, European power to call bullshit on the U.S. and put a stop to this madness. Fat chance of that.

I think we are in the Empire's desperation phase. The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) report that called for and got another Pearl Harbor also spoke affectionately of creating bioweapons to target any upstart nation encroaching on U.S. hegemony. If the bastards could get away with 9/11, a most obvious inside job, what's not to like about the disruption and confusion of bioweapons? The ruthless evil we are up against is truly staggering.

Rahan , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:41 am GMT
It would be super funny, if Russian, Chinese, Serbian, Sudanese, Afghani, and Iranian diplomats now went out en mass to give out cookies to the US rioters.

Taking PR pictures with the poor oppressed black looters and antifa trannies, lecturing Washington on human rights, and pledging support to the "moderate terrorists" i.e. the democrat mayors and governors who decide to not interfere with the looting and autonomous zones.

I think this would be the most epic troll ever. Especially if Venezuela then paraded some nervous spook and declared him the "legitimate president of the United States".

Or maybe, kek, just appoint Bernie the real president. "For two elections the corrupt system has denied this true hero his rightful position. Enough! We support the people's choice!" etc. Bernie would be all: "I don't know who these people are, honest," and they'd be: "stay strong, comrade, we shall help you in your fight to become a true people's president!"

Lot , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:55 am GMT
America's most pro-Israel President, the one who moved the embassy to Jerusalem and appointed a West Bank settler dude as ambassador, has both refrained from starting wars and is gradually bringing the troops home from Afghanistan, Germany, etc.

So much for the Jihadi/leftist smear that Israel's friends promote wars.

Trump: peace through strength and loyalty to America's true friends.

Marshall Lentini , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:35 am GMT

Confronting Russia as some kind of ideological enemy is a never-ending process that leaves both sides poorer and less free.

Well said.

It's also really strange to portray Russia in this demonic fashion. When you see it up close, there are things you don't like or question, things that are bizarre, absurdly inefficient, and outright abhorrent, but it's far from the big threatening geopolitical beast they make it out to be. It's more of a joke which even Russians understand.

There's a phrase from the USSR that someone taught me – аналогов нет, "no analogues" or nothing comparable, referring to the quality of their military armaments, specifically rockets. Obvious nonsense pushed by the USSR to bolster faith in the populace, it lives on today in Kremlin propaganda, but is widely regarded as the bullshit it is, which is why videos containing the phrase itself are banned on YouTube Russia.

In short Russia, as a meme, is a "paper tiger" propped up largely by Washingtonian psychodrama and will-to-power. Washington doesn't want Russia out of Crimea because they love the Ukrainians; they want them out because Ukraine is a major destination for American corporate venality. Absent interference from Washington, the Kremlin might undertake some foreign adventures in neighboring countries, but for the most part would continue on its obvious path of "peacefully" melding with the Chinese economy, like everyone else.

There is no white nation free of the forces of decline set in motion by white success and the overall technological arc of history. "Russia" is nothing more than a scarecrow for the Washington establishment – which it could just as well drop, as they no longer need justifications or approval from the people – and signifies only a livid hunger for the last major market they've yet to absorb directly.

restless94110 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:04 am GMT

It is difficult to find anything good to say about Donald Trump, but the reality is that he has not started any new wars, though

It is difficult to read past an opening sentence such as this one.

I have seen it constantly. I call it the "Back-handed Trump hating fool" approach. The many writers who employ this method in their articles appear to believe that they literally have to make it clear to their readers that of course they (the writers) think Trump is a moron/cad/crook/criminal/mentally ill, BUT!!!

Then they proceed with the rest of their article.

But don't you (the reader) dare think that they think anything good about Trump!

This is childish bullshit and am I the only one who is completely sick of it?

Hey, Phil, how about you leave out the stupid back-handed Trump hating nonsense? You don't need to write it, but if you do? Have your editors cut it from your writing. It just makes you look stupid, and many won't even continue reading your article. As they should. No one deserves to be read who would write such facile, petty nonsense.

Proud_Srbin , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:07 am GMT
ANY country, real or satelite which allows ""diplomats from 5-headed beast or anglo-terrorist and marauding alliance deserve extinction.
God Bless DPRK!
Bill Jones , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:30 am GMT
Petty typo
"Nuland, who is the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the State Department, "

"is" sb was (thank god)

I too find it appalling that these people move among us.

JWalters , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:39 am GMT
If we "follow the money", Hillary's campaign was financed by the Israelis. An honest post mortem on her loss would have focused attention on the huge influence of Israeli money on American elections. The faked focus on Russian "meddling" could have been to divert any talk of election "meddling" away from Israel's truly vast "meddling". (The Israelis routinely distract by accusing others of their own crimes.) The Israelis control both the DNC and the corporate media, so "Russiagate" could roll on virtually evidence-free. Fox was allowed to criticize the "Russiagate" attack on Trump, but only to keep the kabuki conflict boiling. Neither side ever mentioned Israel's "meddling", or in any way criticized Israel. To the contrary, Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity even agreed that Netanyahu would be a great American president. So why did Israeli asset John Bolton just attack Trump, after Trump has given Israel so much, including assassinating Soleimani? Maybe it's Trump's refusal to launch Israel's next war? Maybe they don't really trust Trump? Maybe because on 9/11 Trump said he didn't believe planes could have brought down the twin towers, and that explosives must have been involved? Could Trump be in a deadly dance with the Israelis, riding a tiger?
Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:08 am GMT
Nuland wrote that Russia did "violate arms control treaties, international law, the sovereignty of its neighbors, and the integrity of elections in the United States " But wait a minute, doesn't she really mean Israel, not Russia?

And in retrospect, America's penchant for throwing little countries against the wall has never worked all that well. I'm thinking Cuba, Vietnam, Somalia.

Good article, Mr. Giraldi.

Larchmonter420 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:15 am GMT

Nuland, many will recall, was the driving force behind efforts to destabilize the Ukrainian government of President Viktor Yanukovych in 2013-2014. Yanukovych, an admittedly corrupt autocrat, nevertheless became Prime Minister after a free election.

Nuland might hate Russia, but Obama gave back Crimea to Russia the rightful owner on a Silver Platter. Russia has now easy access to Mediterranean Sea. Obama then invited Russia back to Syria, as the USSR was kicked out of Middle East by the Evil Kissinger after the Yom Kippur War ..

The rest is history. 20/20 is hindsight.

WHAT , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:21 am GMT
@Mr. Hack Exactly, it was a US financed provocation with a whole lot of extremely dumb stooges. Six years that have passed since prove it again and again, every day.

Whatever; "Ukraine" is not a state, "ukrainians" are not a people, "ukraininan" is just bastardized Russian/Polish mix, so to hell with this joke of a cuntry. Let Russia, Poland and Hungary partition it.

Robert Pinkerton , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:24 am GMT
A sub-set of our Jewish fellow Earth-walkers hates Russia, rodina and narod as ancestral heritage.

NATO should have been disbanded shortly after the Soviet Union fell, its bureaucrath given Certificates of Service and sent home.

Philip Giraldi , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:24 am GMT
@Bill Jones Thanks – corrected!
BL , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:57 am GMT
@anon

" It is hard to imagine that any U.S. administration would tolerate a similar attempt by a foreign nation to interfere in U.S. domestic politics, particularly if it were backed by a $5 billion budget, "

We could chalk this up to a lack of imagination on the part of our intrepid former CIA scribbler, but anyone paying even cursory attention couldn't help but conclude that the Obama administration didn't just tolerate, it choreographed, a plot against Trump in league with foreign intelligence services.

U.K., Ukraine, Italy, Australia, Russia, and, yes, Israel.

I'm confident that neither a lack of imagination or garden-variety ignorance explains Giraldi's narrative weaving. However open or obscured, staying on the remove Trump by any means necessary team remains the smart, if treasonous, play.

You'll note that Russia is included in this no doubt incomplete list. It really is a fool's errand to try to surmise for any of these foreign participants what of their actions were opportunism as opposed to resigned self-protectiveness,

But, make no mistake, every single one, foreign powers, whether allies or adversaries, and individuals and purportedly non-state entities, was promised goodies at the expense of the American national interest.

That's anyone's guess at this point. We know surveillance state bottom-feeder Glenn Simpson got at least $6M, and Stefan "Guttman" Halper about $1M. What do you think was promised to foreign powers for playing ball? In the case of Russia, unless I miss my mark, Nord Stream II was merely the down payment.

Maybe some day Giraldi will ask Brennan the contours of the deal he made Russia assistance in throwing the election to Hillary in March, 2016:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-cia/cia-boss-brennan-visited-moscow-in-early-march-interfax-idUSKCN0WU0S5

ThreeCranes , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:05 am GMT
@chris

" Russia is truly the mother load, with control over its natural resources, you control China, undermine the Middle Eastern Arab states and if necessary control Europe financially. Besides the direct political control you then exercise, on an economic level, the productive people of the world Germany and China then work for you."

Hear, hear!

Fred777 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:10 am GMT
Hold fast Russia, the globalists have nothing good in store for you.
Hapalong Cassidy , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:11 am GMT
Given all that has happened this year, I can unequivocally say that any white person who joins the US military needs to have their head examined. And a US military bereft of white people would be pretty much useless.
red rider , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:18 am GMT
Clinton actually bombed Yugoslavia/Sebia as a diversion when the press somehow caught wind of his arrangement with Monica Lewinsky.
Z-man , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:23 am GMT
Philip said:

Bush was an out-and-out neoconservative, or at least someone who was easily led,

Ok but the main reason 'Dubbya' went into Eye-Raq is because he wanted to 'get' Saddam for having gone after 'Big Daddy' Bush I. The Neochoens provided the cover.

Bill Jones said:

I too find it appalling that these people move among us.

Yes but Nudelman is also a laughable character now who's shelf life has expired, I hope.

JoaoAlfaiate , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:48 am GMT
Hoping for Peoria but getting Minneapolis and Seattle.
rienzi , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:02 pm GMT
Ignoring all arguments about who is on the side of the angels here.

There are a lot of countries that could hurt us badly in a shooting war, but we would survive, and at the end of the day, they would not. However, there is one country, and only one, that could completely erase us in a few hours, and that is Russia.

Seems insanely suicidal to run around poking the bear with a stick at every possible opportunity.

anonymous [245] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:03 pm GMT
For the gullible fans of Mr. Trump, who want so fervently to believe that he's trying to change anything but the rhetoric:

When I searched to confirm the name of that "diplomat" standing next to Ms. Nuland, I learned from an official website that he remains employed as such, now the face of Uncle Sam in Greece.

Geoffrey R. Pyatt, a career member of the Foreign Service, class of Career Minister, was sworn in as the U.S. Ambassador to the Hellenic Republic in September 2016.

He served as U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine from 2013-2016, receiving the State Department's Robert Frasure Memorial Award in recognition of his commitment to peace and alleviation of human suffering in eastern Ukraine.

What should we expect of a President that would brag about luring an Iranian leader into a gangland hit with an invitation to discuss peace?

If you can't handle the truth, just hit the Troll or Disagree button.

Robjil , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:07 pm GMT
@Mr. Hack It is called fool's gold.

They were promised the EU or riches from the EU.

Yet, the leader of the coup Nuland said these immortal words to start her coup:

"F–k the EU"

Nuland knew the real deal.

She was creating a Zion colony in Ukraine and nothing more than that.

geokat62 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:13 pm GMT

All were hawks who believed that the United States had the right to do whatever it considered necessary to enhance its own security , to include invading other countries, which led to Afghanistan and Iraq, where the U.S. still has forces stationed nearly twenty years later.

Great article, Phil. May I recommend one minor edit:

All were hawks who believed that the United States had the right to do whatever it considered necessary to enhance the Jewish State's security, to include invading other countries, which led to Afghanistan and Iraq, where the U.S. still has forces stationed nearly twenty years later.

Realist , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:15 pm GMT

The foreign interventionists really hate Russia

Ya think??? Is this supposed to be newsy?

Realist , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:17 pm GMT
@Hapalong Cassidy

Given all that has happened this year, I can unequivocally say that any white person who joins the US military needs to have their head examined.

That has been the case for decades.

Jake , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:18 pm GMT
Why do our 'foreign interventionists,' our 'permanent war for globalist perpetual peace' crusaders, our Neocons, hate Russia so thoroughly and so centrally to their very beings?

First, our imperialists are the direct descendants intellectually, spiritually, and morally of the first WASP Empire, the first Anglo-Zionist Empire: the British Empire. And they have used their high IQs that are focused on grasping the One Ring to Rule Them All to locate where the Brit WASP Empire failed to achieve its goals, which allowed the collapse starting with World War 1. They are obsessed with that because they believe that if they can achieve what the Brit WASPs failed to achieve, then they can make the Anglo-Zionist Empire 2.0 as permanent as the Roman Empire – a Thousand Year Reich.

And that is spiritually what all WASP imperialism, all Anglo-Zionist imperialism back to at least the Anglo-Saxon Puritans, is about: replacing the Roman Empire, which means replacing that which culturally led to, and was absolutely indispensable to, Christendom.

What they wish to redo and achieve that the Brit WASPs failed in is winning The Great Game: becoming total master of Eur-Asia. And that requires taking out Russia and China. In the 19th century, China was sicker than even the Ottoman Turkish Empire. To play the long game to destroy Russia, the Brit WASPs allied with the Turks to prevent Russia acting to push the Ottomans out of Europe. Brit WASP secret service in eastern Europe was focused on reducing Russia significantly right through the Bolshevik Revolution, even with Russia naively, stupidly allied with the British Empire in World War 1.

Our 'foreign interventionists' have seen Russia under Putin rise from the ashes, and they intend to destroy Russia once and for all, so they then can reduce China and win The Great Game. And thus make Anglo-Zionist Empire greater than Roman Empire.

Second, our Neocons are the spiritual and intellectual descendants not just of Trotskyites, but of all Russia-hating Jews with ties to Central and/or Eastern Europe. For them, Russia always is the evil that must be destroyed for the good of Jews.

Everything at its bedrock is about theology, is about the choice between Christ and Christendom or the Chaos of anti-Christendom.

BL , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:22 pm GMT
@BL By the way, I will give you the commanding heights Sad Story in absurdly abridged form.

China won the post-Cold War period hands down. From Tiananmen Square to Ising power on the cusp of global hegemony in a quarter century. With the US paying the bill.

While there were clear indications to any honest observer years before, Snowden's coming out signaled the public next phase of a years long operation in which the USG built a global surveillance apparatus, including not the least of Americans, and then lost the whole shebang to Russia, China and God Knows Who Else.

My view then -- and I have seen nothing to even suggest my informed speculation was wrong -- was that the sky was the limit in terms of what the powers that be would gift in terms of the national interest to protect themselves from exposure and a reckoning.

I would like anyone who disagrees to otherwise explain how USG policy became one of driving China and Russia into a strategic alliance. To say nothing of putting obviously compromised individuals, foreign assets, like Brennan at the apex of power.

Obama was also the first president to set up a regular Tuesday morning session to review a list of American citizens who would benefit from being killed by drone.

Uh huh. Read the NYT article -- Obama is no angel, but Giraldi should explain why President Obama would set up, much less publicly reveal, weekly sessions in which both he and the office of the president are grossly debased by the Director of the CIA?

geokat62 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:34 pm GMT

Zionism is the Deep State – Rick Wiles

-- TruNews™ (@TruNews) June 22, 2020

Jake , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 12:52 pm GMT
In this article, this is the most important sentence in terms of showing how doomed America is: Obama was also the first president to set up a regular Tuesday morning session to review a list of American citizens who would benefit from being killed by drone.

The DOOM is that no Liberal can ever acknowledge that as something a liberal, a sacred black liberal at that, would do without being forced to do so by white conservatives.

That insanity lies at the heart of America and has since at least the Emancipation Proclamation. It means that it is totally impossible to have a halfway meaningful 'liberal' opposition to imperialism, because imperialism is always easily cast as doing good for the downtrodden blacks and/or browns and/or yellows and/or Jews and/or Moslems.

anon [319] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT
Too late, too fat, & too ugly! Nuland already lost the beauty contest for Biden's ventriloquist to Avril Haines, She-wolf of the DO. The rectal feedings will continue till morale improves!
Really No Shit , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:13 pm GMT
The "foreign interventionists" want two things: Russia's mineral riches and its good gene pool (how do you think Middle Eastern Semites became blonde hair- blue eyed people who can easily blend into the West to undermine it from within in the first place to begin with?)

And they won't stop until they get what they want, by hook or crook!

Mr. Hack , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:36 pm GMT
@Robjil Nuland was about as interested in creating a "Zion colony" of Ukraine as Ron Unz (another Jew) is in creating one at this website!
Anonymous [112] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:41 pm GMT
Clinton and Obama were so-called liberal interventionists who sought to export something called democracy to other countries in an attempt to make them more like Peoria . . .

More like the Castro District or Seattle, in fact.

BuelahMan , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:43 pm GMT
Vicky is a Dirty Woman:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q67l4qPKbJ4?feature=oembed

A123 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:43 pm GMT

So the difference between neocons and liberal interventionists is one of style rather than substance. And, by either yardstick all-in-all, Trump looks pretty good, but there has nevertheless been a resurgence of neocon-think in his administration.

Trump fired John Bolton. Pompeo is at most a shadow of Bolton. That is rather the opposite of resurgence. If the author could let go of his #NeverTrump bias he would be able to see that Trump has run the NeoCons out of the GOP.

Trump tried to remove troops from Syria and Afghanistan and ran into Deep State obstructionism.

The Globalists tried to trick Trump into a Syria expansion by creating a Turkey/Syria battle through areas controlled by U.S. Troops. Trump refused to be manipulated and pulled U.S. Troops out of the kill sack. Does anyone still believe that myth about 'protecting Syrian oil'? Only the mentally dim accepted that ludicrous cover story. It was flimsy excuse to relocate out of the Deep State trap.

Prior U.S. administrations created huge problems in the ME by toppling Saddam and emboldening Iran's theocracy. "Cut and Run" would guarantee a nuclear arms race in the region. Trump's containment of Iranian colonial expansionism is working, albeit slowly. The Rial continues to slide (now at ~200,000 to the USD). At some point, the Iranian people will choose to get rid of their failed leaders and rejoin civilized society. Until then Trump's containment is better than a Biden invasion.
_____

Trump has fundamentally reshaped the alignment of U.S. Politics. There is only one foreign interventionist party. The SJW Globalist DNC now owns both the NeoConDemocrats and the R2P crowd. The choice this November is clear:

-- Trump -- No New Foreign Wars
-- Biden -- Invasion of Ukraine, Iran, Libya, etc.

PEACE

Desert Fox , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:50 pm GMT
Nuland is just the tip of the iceberg in the ZUS government, which is infested with zionists and has been in every administation since Wilson, they are the cause of every war since WWI right down to the middle east and in the case of the middle east wars, the zionists and Israel used their attack on the WTC to push America into the slaughter house for the greater Israel project.

Read The Protocols of Zion and the book The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed, there is laid out the zionist one world zionist government.

chris , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 1:53 pm GMT
@Rahan HAHAHA, I'm still laughing !!! That's friggin hilarious, Rahan!!!
Bernie the cowardly comrade
Bill Jones , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:00 pm GMT
@Larchmonter420 It is little noticed that those Countries consumed by the evil Soviet Union have fared much better in conserving their culture and sense of self, after they were upchucked in the early '90s, than the Champions of Democracy of the West have done under the freedom and tutelage bestowed by the US.
Funny dat.
chris , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:09 pm GMT
@Hapalong Cassidy yeah, white or straight; the worst is if you're both
AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:19 pm GMT
Yes, Nudelman and her ilk are rabidly anti-Russian. But what they did in Ukraine revealed a very different thing: globohomo elites are mentally degenerate, they cannot foresee even immediate consequences of their moves. There was a joke in Russia that for the coup in 2014 in Kiev Obama deserves a medal "For the liberation of Crimea" (there was a medal of this name in WWII). There was another joke, that Ukraine without Crimea is like a purebred stallion without balls.

Neocons planned to make Ukraine a battering rum against Russia. They did not understand that a log rotten through and through cannot serve as a battering ram. Now they are stuck with that wreck ("you break it – you own it" rule) and don't know what to do with it. Previous US administration and DNC big shots (Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, and Co) used it mostly as a rout of stealing US taxpayers' money. Current administration does not seem to have even this use for it. The US keeps proving the age-old wisdom that when you see your enemy committing suicide, do not interfere. Putin appears to have a huge stock of popcorn.

Bill Jones , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:20 pm GMT
@BL Bezos has done extremely well for acting as China's proxy in destroying the US economy.
Give the man a medal:
onebornfree , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:21 pm GMT
"So the difference between neocons and liberal interventionists is one of style rather than substance. And, by either yardstick all-in-all, Trump looks pretty good, but there has nevertheless been a resurgence of neocon-think in his administration. "

This "just" in: "War is the health of the state" Randolph Bourne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randolph_Bourne

Meaning, if you have governments in the first place, sooner or later, you will have war, either on the people inside a country [eg the war on drugs], or on citizens of another country, or both at the same time [i.e. what we have now].

Outside of complete dissolution of all states [ preferable in my opinion, but unlikely given the general mindset of the brainwashed masses worldwide], and given the systemic need of all states everywhere for evermore wars on their own, and on others populations, the only [ imperfect, and perhaps temporary], solution I see is to 95% downsize the federal government and restore the constitution and bill of rights and to thereby restrict the federal government to its original limits, and to even design new, more effective ways to prevent the federal governments further expansion beyond those original limits/chains.

"..the very idea of the State itself is poisonous, evil, and intrinsically destructive. But, like so many bad ideas, people have come to assume it's part of the cosmic firmament, when it's really just a monstrous scam.

It's a fraud, like your belief that you have a right to free speech because of the First Amendment, or a right to be armed because of the Second Amendment. No, you don't. The U.S. Constitution is just an arbitrary piece of paper entirely apart from the fact the whole thing is now just a dead letter. You have a right to free speech and to be armed because they're necessary parts of being a free person, not because of what a political document says.

Even though the essence of the State is coercion, people have been taught to love and respect it. Most people think of the State in the quaint light of a grade school civics book. They think it has something to do with "We the People" electing a Jimmy Stewart character to represent them.

That ideal has always been a pernicious fiction, because it idealizes, sanitizes, and legitimizes an intrinsically evil and destructive institution, which is based on force. As Mao once said, political power comes out of the barrel of a gun." Doug Casey
https://www.caseyresearch.com/daily-dispatch/doug-casey-the-deep-state-is-responsible-for-all-economic-turmoil/

Regards, onebornfree

Agent76 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:22 pm GMT
Apr 27, 2017 This Is Already Putting an End to the Age of Globalization and Bankrupting the United States (2004)

For a major power, prosecution of any war that is not a defense of the homeland usually requires overseas military bases for strategic reasons. After the war is over, it is tempting for the victor to retain such bases and easy to find reasons to do so.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/orBEdPe63v0?feature=oembed

February 26, 2015 The Neoconservative Threat To World Order

Scholars from Russia and from around the world, Russian government officials, and the Russian people seek an answer as to why Washington destroyed during the past year the friendly relations between America and Russia that President Reagan and President Gorbachev succeeded in establishing.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/02/26/neoconservative-threat-world-order-paul-craig-roberts/

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:25 pm GMT
@Bill Jones There is even funnier thing now with covid: the countries that do not toe the imperial line, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, are doing a lot better than imperial sidekicks like Brazil, Colombia, or Peru. Rephrasing old Russian saying, "tell me who is your friend, and I tell you how stupid you are".
chris , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:25 pm GMT
@Rahan To make the troll work even better, Venezuela could then send 20 guys in zodiacs to motor into DC and NY harbor to try to take over Dulles and LaGuardia airports, and when they got captured, they could just trade them for those 2 knuckleheads we sent down there. They could also claim that they're here to capture Trump; that might just get him handed over.

Rahan, you have to send your brilliant joke to CJ Hopkins and to Caitline Johnstone to get if more exposure.

Wizard of Oz , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:45 pm GMT
@anonymous You appear to be saying that a career diplomat who served in Ukraine when the US did or supported bad things there should not have been appointed as Ambassador to Greece. Is that a correct understanding of what you mean to convey? If so, how does this reflect on Trump when the appointment was made two months before he was elected?
JoaoAlfaiate , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:48 pm GMT
Before confronting the Russians, it might be a good idea to regain control of Minneapolis and Seattle ..
anonymous [400] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:52 pm GMT

So the difference between neocons and liberal interventionists is one of style rather than substance.

That's pretty much it, they just use different rhetoric to appeal to their constituencies. Might makes right; there is no other law beside bandit law. The Russians have been a barrier to the US being able to spread itself over the entire globe and rob everyone weaker than itself. The US was behind all these atrocious jihadi mercenaries even as it's pretended to be against them. The Russians stopped the US project of terror and overthrow in Syria and that's outraged the Americans who thought they could act as they pleased. Libya was destroyed by the wonderful, hip Obama who many stupid Americans still think was a nice person. But with Russia, they can huff and puff but can't blow their walls down. They have a military that can deter the Americans unlike all the other smaller victim states.

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:53 pm GMT
@onebornfree

Meaning, if you have governments in the first place, sooner or later, you will have war,

Funny, you sound like notorious Russian politician Zhirinovsky. He said: "there is no such thing as lasting peace, there is only prolonged armistice".

Wizard of Oz , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN The second joke should be withdrawn from active service. It is that of the naughty schoolboy who will say anything for a cheap laugh – in this case "balls. A well bred gelding will win races, be just as well fed and housed as the entire stallion and much more contentedly placid.
GMC , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:59 pm GMT
Right after those two Israeli puppets were dancing and talking on their open lined cell phones outside on Shitskyia St. in Kyiv, Ukraine, in front of the US Embassy, Ambassador Py Rat ended up going to the US Embassy in Greece, in order screw the Greek people some more, and Cookies Nuland ended up -- F n what's left of the island of Cyprus. US Embassies are nothin more than CIA offices and only idiots would leave them in their country.
Biff , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:20 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN Another Russian joke about Ukraine – that I will probably wreck but here goes:

How come you want to attack Donbass?

Because the Russians are there.

How come you don't actually attack Donbass?

Because the Russians are really there!

EliteCommInc. , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:33 pm GMT
"She accuses the Kremlin of having "seized" Crimea, but fails to see the heavy footprint of the U.S. military in Afghanistan and Iraq and as a regional enabler of Israeli and Saudi war crimes. One wonders if she is aware that Russia, which she sees as expansionistic, has only one overseas military base while the United States has more than a thousand."

I think this is a mistake. I think Miss Nuland knows exactly how large and intense the US ft print is and belies it should be larger and more intense. There are sincere people who believe that the US must as duty make the work safe for democracy even the means of getting there is any and everything bt democratic because in the long run -- the benefits will outweigh.

and as proof of er sincerity -- it's not just Russia (Though I understand why Dr. Giraldi would like to tackle one territorial issue at a time makes sense)

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/21/china-adapting-and-improving-on-tactics-deployed-b/

Herald , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:34 pm GMT
@Chris Moore

And half of America thinks Trump is nuts? It should look at the "intellectual Jews" it's so desperate to consign its fate to.

Of course, it should look at them, that's what Trump seems to be doing.

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:44 pm GMT
@Biff I've heard another version of this.
Ukrainians are asked:
– If you believe that Crimea belongs to you, why don't you fight for it?
– We are not stupid, Russian troops are there.
– But you say that there are Russian troops in Donbass, yet you fight.
– That's what we say, but in Crimea there really are Russian troops.
Rahan , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:48 pm GMT
@chris
Thank you for the kind words, Chris,
You're very welcome to share the gist of the joke anywhere you like, and add to it whatever you think works:)
peter mcloughlin , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:51 pm GMT
I agree that "backing Moscow into a corner with no way out" is a dangerous strategy. This is not the Cold War: in the Cold War the United States and USSR were able to keep peace, a balance of power, an equilibrium where neither side's vital interests were threatened. Russia had a buffer zone: not today. America was at the height of its global economic power: today it is being overtaken by China. In the Cold War the big powers avoided nuclear Armageddon – though at times appeared to come close – because they were able to. The misguided thinking today is: "we got through the Cold War we can get this". This is not a re-run of 1945-1991: it is the lead-in to the holocaust that period skillfully avoided.
https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/
GMC , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:54 pm GMT
@Mr. Hack I was in Ukraine and was a resident in 2008 even. Yanuk was a thief, but this was SOP in Kyiv – how do you think they all get rich ? Sure the people were protesting about corruption, but anyone who was really there know how easy it was to spread the riot when the western neo nazis are bussed in, the " cookies" end up being money paid to certain groups and out of work peasants. Yanuk was trying to short sell Ukraine's farmland etc. to many corporations and countries. He was taking money from Monsanto, Carghill, Dupont, John Deere/ Iowa Univ. and even China started to build a deep water port in Crimea , in order to grow on the 200,000 hectares they wanted to lease. Russia always gave the Ukies a decent loan or gaz price { esp. for Princess Jewish Tymoshenko who up the price for her takings }, not to mention the million or so that worked in Ru. A Perfect storm , for as far back as when , in 2005, Senator B Obama , brought 40 million in cash to Donetsk, in order to de- arm the Ukrainian military. This Maidan and Ukrainian plan was well planned – decade or two earlier – Pravda !
Herald , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 3:56 pm GMT
@Bill Jones China's proxy?
Shaman911 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:00 pm GMT
For one thing. PRESIDENTS of any country "DO NOT START WARS" It's always Jewish Bankers.
Nuland is Jewish so what else is there to talk about?
Alfa158 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:13 pm GMT
Mr. Giraldi ; do you think Vicky is angling for the Secretary of State position in the upcoming Biden administration?
Have you given any thought to who Biden will be told to select for the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, and National Security Advisor slots where they will be leading the charge for war?
I think it is possible that Bolton may have been angling for one of those spots with his current book tour, but that has obviously blown up in his face.
Really No Shit , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:15 pm GMT
@BuelahMan Dirty Vicky wanted to do statuesque Julia you know where!
Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:41 pm GMT
@Anonymous I thought that bit was comic relief.
anonymous [245] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:42 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz OK, as you give off more than a whiff of effete hack yourself, I'll bite.*

Yes, that's what I mean to convey. It reflects on President Trump -- and, more particularly, his sham campaign rhetoric -- that the likes of Mr. Pyatt remain in place with another Exceptional! plaque on his lavish office.

Do you mean to convey that the President can't replace ambassadors at will, or that they have tenure?

-- --

*Before interacting with this "Wizard of Oz" character, be aware that he/she/they often draw other commenters in with questions and requests that are seldom resolved to his/her/their satisfaction, or with cryptic insinuations that distract discussion.

The same person also fuzzes up threads by pretending to be more than one commenter, the technique known as "sock puppetry." See under Mr. Derbyshire's February 15, 2019, article comment ## 28, 42, 43, 44, 68, 122, where he/she/they got sloppy also posting as "Anon[436]."

Among this website's oddest, sophisticatedly trollish commenters.

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:44 pm GMT
@GMC Let's give credit where credit is due. Yes, the Empire wanted to buy Ukraine, preferably on the cheap (considering that the goods were not of the first quality). But for the sale to proceed you need two sides. You need a fraudster and a sucker. You cannot consider morons who sold their would-be country for beads blameless. Not to mention that many local thugs got a cut. Smarter thieves took their loot and ran away, like Yats. Dumber and/or greedier ones, like Porky and Kolomoisky, remained and kept trying to steal more. The suckers (the rest of the population) are left holding the bag. Stupidity is always punished in the end, but not always so severely.
Mr. Hack , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:51 pm GMT
@GMC Although one has to be careful in dealing with the large multinationals, the only way to obtain large contracts is through cooperation with them. Opening things up and building ports would have resulted in large employment opportunities for the masses, adding some stability to the Ukrainian economy.

I'm not aware of Senator Obama's dealings in Donetsk to "de-arm the Ukrainian military". Please do tell me more.

Chris Moore , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 4:56 pm GMT
@Jake

Our 'foreign interventionists' have seen Russia under Putin rise from the ashes, and they intend to destroy Russia once and for all, so they then can reduce China and win The Great Game. And thus make Anglo-Zionist Empire greater than Roman Empire. Second, our Neocons are the spiritual and intellectual descendants not just of Trotskyites, but of all Russia-hating Jews with ties to Central and/or Eastern Europe. For them, Russia always is the evil that must be destroyed for the good of Jews.

So basically, they're Jewish parasites with delusions of grandeur who attached themselves to the British Empire and American Empire (destroying the US Constitution along the way), and are using its decaying WASP blood and treasure to set up an Anglo-Zionist Empire, which will then morph into a Zionist Empire, which will then move its headquarters to Israel, which will then fulfill "chosen" Zionist Jewish supremacist prophecy and theology of ruling the world.

In other words, they're not only parasites, but they're insane parasites. Really, could there be any other kind? The insanity is baked into the parasite.

Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:00 pm GMT
@anonymous

What should we expect of a President that would brag about luring an Iranian leader into a gangland hit with an invitation to discuss peace?

I am confident that, in my lifetime, the truth about how that unfolded will never be known. The intel for the hit came from the Israelis through the same people that have been undermining him from Day 1. Did Trump actually know Soleimani was there on a peace mission? Did Trump know that an Iraqi leader would be with Solmeimani? Why would de-escalation of tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia be bad for Trump who has been avoiding staring wars? Was Mattis in on that game?

Once the hit was done, the rest is creating a narrative for diversion. It was a shit show, to be sure, but I suspect there is a lot more to this than what we are being fed.

Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:01 pm GMT
' Michael Ledeen, "Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business." '

Now, if that 'small, crappy little country' could be Israel, me 'n Mike could have a real meeting of minds.

but I suppose that's not what Mike meant.

Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:06 pm GMT
' Backing Moscow into a corner with no way out by using threats and sanctions is not good policy '

That might well be, but maybe there is a way out.

Think maybe if Russia abandoned its support for a state in Syria and let Israel have her little way with the place that she might suddenly be left in peace?

Nahhh couldn't possibly be a connection. How could that influence our policy?

FLgeezer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:10 pm GMT
@anonymous >Among this website's oddest, sophisticatedly trollish commenters.

Agreed. I suggest he/she/it be referred to henceforth as the Wizard of Odds.

Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:16 pm GMT
' Washington and its allies have forgotten the statecraft that won the Cold War '

This always happens with winners -- be they World War One generals or Cold Warriors.

If, due to other factors entirely, they happen to finally triumph, it all becomes attributed to their incredible genius.

The oddity is that the Soviet Union lasted as long as it did. It was a massively unattractive system with no natural constituency beyond its own bureaucrats. Yes, it had to be kept at bay, and we did do that -- but we basically merely watched while it collapsed under the weight of its own internal flaws.

Kouros , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:34 pm GMT
American Oligarchy really wants to take over the Russian economy and assets (as well as China's and Iran's)
Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:38 pm GMT

the advice that has been attributed to leading neocon Michael Ledeen, "Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business."

Hmm Israel comes first to mind.

Hegar , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:44 pm GMT
Giraldi's first paragraph is spot on. But after corona dealing the economy a heavy blow, I don't think Trump will start a war before the election. I don't think he would have done that otherwise either, though there was some risk. Trump has caved numerous times, he is an idioht when it comes to hiring his enemies hoping to appease them, but there is no question that he opposes mass immigration and invasions.

I suppose most people here know this, but let's look at how many of the pro-war names mentioned belong to the 2.5 % "Chosen":

George Bush
Donald Rumsfeld
Hillary Clinton
Michael Ledeen (White, but studied history under *George Mosse, immigrated from Germany)
Reuel Gerecht
Dan Senor

*Richard Perle
*Paul Wolfowitz (The architect of the Afghan-Iraq invasions, who gathered support for them in Congress and organized the pro-war communication)
*Douglas Feith (would have been the Sec. of Defense if people hadn't objected too much, as he was infamous after the Iran-Contra affair)
*Eliot Abrams
*Lewish "Scooter" Libby of the dead eyes
*Robert Kagan
*Frederick Kagan
*Victoria Nuland
*Madeleine Albright (Half a million dead Iraqi children from starvation sanctions and bombing the infrastructure for twelve years was "worth it")

That's six Whites and nine Tribe.

If those nine hadn't existed millions would have been alive today, there would have been no flood of Somalis, Afghans, Iraqis and Syrians to Europe, and the U.S. and the Middle East would have been far better off.

Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:48 pm GMT
@Colin Wright I just posted a similar comment, before I saw yours.

Plagiarism unintended!

Alfred , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:53 pm GMT
@Mr. Hack I applaud the US response of supporting Ukraine's aspirations for a freer more Western oriented country

You are joking surely? The country is run by Jews from top to bottom – although Jews are 1% of the population. Since the Maidan putsch, there has only been a string of Jewish presidents and prime minsters. The guy responsible for investigating corruption was recently sacked and replaced by a Jew.

Post Maidan, 3 TV stations were shut in Kharkov alone. Everything is controlled and is lies. Journalists and politicians who don't do as they are told are shot. No one is arrested. The latest victim was an opposition politician who was executed by a shot in the head in his parliamentary office a few weeks ago. No Jew ever suffers such a fate.

He was not "found dead". He was killed by a bullet to the head.
It was not in "central Kyiv". It was in the parliament building.

Ukrainian lawmaker found dead in central Kyiv

Rurik , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 5:57 pm GMT

Vice President Dick Cheney, who thought he was actually the man in charge.

he was

contrast the chimp sitting in that classroom for 20 something minutes, as our nation was under attack

with what Cheney was doing at the time..

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qjR0gGXV-04?feature=oembed

All were hawks who believed that the United States had the right to do whatever it considered necessary to enhance its own security,

I see Geo has already pointed out the obvious absurdity that any of these criminal were in the least bit worried bout US security. If anything, they were overtly sacrificing US security on behalf of an enemy state. Not sure why you write stuff like that Mr. G, unless you just expect people to ignore it as perfunctory tripe, but there are some, no doubt, who read those words and assume you are actually saying they care about the US. When you and I both know they don't.

Clinton and Obama were so-called liberal interventionists who sought to export something called democracy to other countries in an attempt to make them more like Peoria.

Nope.

They were and are both amoral, opportunistic zio-whores, whose only ideology is what's good for Clinton and Obama, respectively. Clinton didn't bomb Serbia out of some humanitarian love of freedom and democracy, and Obama didn't destroy Libya and Syria except to serve his zio-masters. Duh.

So the difference between neocons and liberal interventionists is one of style rather than substance. And, by either yardstick all-in-all, Trump looks pretty good,

I was telling my gal the other day, that Trump could be The One to End the Fed, by allowing Goldman Sachs and the rest of them to feast at the Treasury to their heart's content.

I reminded her of Jackson's quote about hurting ten thousand families, in order to save fifty thousand. And in a similar vein, Trump could be setting up the collapse of the ZUS economy, which will hurt hundreds of millions, but if he could collapse the dollar, he very well might save billions of people's lives.

"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out."
– Andrew Jackson (1767-1845)

Nuland is most famous for her foul language when referring to the potential European role

I beg to differ, Mr. G.

I would posit that her most famous utterings were when she imperiously demanded that "Yats is our guy". IOW, the way she was promoting "democracy" in Ukraine, was by corrupting the system with 5 billions of tax payer lucre- to the point where she, *personally* could decide who- (Jewish banker) would be president in a nation thousands of miles away. That's how the ZUS promotes "democracy" in foreign lands. (and, I suspect that it was the way that call was leaked, that is the fount of all the rage at Russia, for "Russian hacking', breaking long-standing diplomatic protocols against exposing other nation's treachery and corruption to the 'little people').

Nuland's view . Russia to violate arms control treaties, international law, the sovereignty of its neighbors, and the integrity of elections in the United States and Europe

for Nuland to talk about 'International law and the 'integrity of European elections'.. is like Jerry Sandusky lecturing people on child welfare.

That strategy required consistent U.S. leadership at the presidential level,

OK, so not only Nuland but also John Bolton is screeching that Trump is the disaster of our times.

Not since John McCain has a mad dog Zionist insider been so full of hate for Trump. Hmm..

as Russia's threat to the liberal world has grown."

the more she talks, the more I like Putin.

And it is precisely what Nuland did in fact do in Ukraine

.
they think chutzpah, (arr0gent contempt for decency and in-your-face hypocrisy), is a virtue.

All Americans and Europeans and everyone else, should see that Putin is the world's remaining statesman. We should all do everything we can to support Putin's earnest efforts to rein in the murderous, zio-glob menacing the planet today.

Thank you Mr. G. for exposing Nuland's treachery, hypocrisy and J-supremacist agenda.

Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:33 pm GMT
@Pat Kittle ' Plagiarism unintended!'

Wouldn't it be more of a matter of great minds thinking alike?

Jake , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:33 pm GMT
@Chris Moore Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell made alliance with Jewish bankers, then congregated in the Netherlands. The deal, which financially was necessary to him securing Puritan rule and to then wage more war against non-WASP natives of the British Isles, included Jews being allowed legally live in and own property in England, including to build a synagogue, with Jews exempted from all requirements that the Puritan government made on al natives of the British Isles.

Jews are not parasites on WASP culture. WASP culture is born of a Judaizing heresy, and Jews therefore have always been partners in WASP culture.

You need to spend a large amount of time learning the rise of Jews with the growth of the British Empire. Then put that with the rise of Jews as part of the American empire.

And then unless you are brain dead, you will see that WASP culture and Jews go together. Jews are not parasites on WASP culture. Jews and WASPs are symbiotic, at the expense of 90-95% of non-WASP whites.

Agent76 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:34 pm GMT
Jun 23, 2020 Online Event: U.S. Grand Strategy in the Middle East

While prominent voices in Washington have argued that U.S. interests in the Middle East are dwindling and will require the United States to "do less" there, Jake Sullivan argued in a recent Foreign Affairs article that the United States should be more ambitious using U.S. leverage and diplomacy to promote regional stability.

Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:35 pm GMT
@Lot 'So much for the Jihadi/leftist smear that Israel's friends promote wars.'

Uh huh. Just look at how Trump has reached out to Iran.

and I notice that our troops are still in Syria.

not that any of this could conceivably lead to yet another war on behalf of Israel.

anonymous [245] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:38 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon Did you not hear the recording of President Trump's disgusting speech weeks later at a fundraiser, recounting the hit to his rapt backers? I'm pretty sure that it was posted in a comment to one of Dr. Giraldi's columns.

You might also want to review Linh Dinh's June 12, 2016 "Orlando Shooting Means Trump For President."

Voting for any of these Red/Blue characters merely moves the boot around on your face.

Mefobills , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:51 pm GMT
Democracies don't reflect the will of the people:

Victoria Nuland recommends that "The challenge for the United States in 2021 will be to lead the democracies of the world in crafting a more effective approach to Russia -- one that builds on their strengths and puts stress on Putin where he is vulnerable, including among his own citizens." Interestingly, that might be regarded as seeking to interfere in the workings of a foreign government, reminiscent of the phony case made against Russia in 2016. And it is precisely what Nuland did in fact do in Ukraine

https://www.johnkaminski.org/index.php/essays-by-john-kaminiski-american-writer-and-critic/holocausting-humanity/91-the-true-nature-of-the-jew-scam

We live in the dark, convinced by our public media and our insincere leaders that we are heroes and freedom fighters. In reality the opposite is true: we are the plunderers, the ravagers, deceiving ourselves to do the dirty work of the manipulators who have twisted our minds with trinkets and false accounts of the people we kill and the countries we ruin in order to steal their treasures.

And the saddest part -- the punchline that proves how stupid we are -- is that we never profit from the invasions we are cynically ordered to conduct. The bounty always goes to the swindlers pulling the strings, and we, as the agents of banditry, time and again, are always left to suffer the same fate of the people we have robbed when we are robbed ourselves, of not only our treasures, but of our dignity, shortly before we are robbed of our lives.

It is the way history has always gone. The ignorant masses are persuaded to commit the crimes of the rich and as the unwitting perpetrators, we ultimately suffer the same fate as the victims, while the rich snicker in their palaces and plot their next swindle.

Bill Jones , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 6:53 pm GMT
@Herald How much of Amazon's offering is Chinese sourced?

Who sells more Chinese goods than Bezos?

Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 7:02 pm GMT
@Agent76 'While prominent voices in Washington have argued that U.S. interests in the Middle East are dwindling and will require the United States to "do less" there, Jake Sullivan argued in a recent Foreign Affairs article that the United States should be more ambitious using U.S. leverage and diplomacy to promote regional stability.'

I'm confused. Iraq is more stable for our intervention?

If we 'did less' in the Middle East, it could only promote regional stability.

Most of our actions there are pretty clearly calculated to promote instability, not stability. Promoting anarchy in Syria, baiting Iran into a war, acquiescing in a coup in Egypt, sanctioning Israel's continual bombing raids

geokat62 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 7:32 pm GMT
Anyone ever heard of Father Mordechi Martin? Neither did I, until I came across this explosive video

BANNED: How the Jews infiltrated the Vatican & changed the Catholic Church

https://www.goyimtv.com/view?v=2074240941

The late Michael Collins Piper hosts a call in program and his guest is Jim Condit Jr. The topic of conversation is Father Mordechi Martin, a Zionist spy who infiltrated and subverted the Catholic Church.

Unfortunately, it indeed seems that Jewish Supremacists have achieved full spectrum dominance.

anonymous [237] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 7:32 pm GMT
The first thing a confident America has got to do is top up that DO covert-ops slush fund:

https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/06/17/politics-contraband-gangster-planet/

Cuz, Oops. Big CIA profit center needs some business interruption insurance, huh?

Gee, I wonder who ratted them out?

slorter , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:07 pm GMT
Good article !
Druid55 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:14 pm GMT
@Mustapha Mond Only a few israelis died on 911. They didn't get the text that american jews got to stay away that day. This is admited!
The Alarmist , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:17 pm GMT

The challenge for the United States in 2021 will be to lead the democracies of the world .

The challenge will be to find any actual democracies of any import in the world, as the lamps go out across the whole planet.

Jake , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:20 pm GMT
@Mr. Hack US control of the Ukraine will mean that Jews will own almost all of it and the land will be flooded with blacks and Mohammedans, with gays made another sacred group.

Anglo-Zionist Empire does what Anglo-Zionist Empire does.

chris , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:30 pm GMT
@Rahan I laughed my ass off ! I'm still laughing

I passed your comment on to CJ Hopkins with link to the source. Maybe he can use it in his column. It needs a much greater audience than in the comment section here.

Yours is a fantastic troll, but there are others who've commented on the ironies in this context. This article for example: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490539-looting-is-the-price-of-freedom-cynical/ There's enough trolling material in all these events to last us a lifetime.

WikiBlabs , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:50 pm GMT
@Chris Moore The public does not understand that the system is actually "two party tyranny". This system is designed to divide and conquer, and it works. Compound this with the fact that many people get their information from simply "googling" terms and phrases as opposed to actually digging deep and reading books and other sources for information. Combine this with the sad state of affairs in our public education system – where students are not taught to think or ask questions but to behave, conform, and memorize information. With regard to the methods being used in our foreign policy and now, subsequently, being used here to foment chaos, check out the following resource. You will see that what is going on is simply UCW – Unconventional Warfare, and we have perfected the technique abroad.

UNIDENTIFIED NEMESIS

geokat62 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:51 pm GMT
Breaking news

NEW: Alan Dershowitz's attorney confirms that his client has access to Virginia Giuffre's sealed depositions. Those depositions reveal that she was directed by Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with former Israeli PM Ehud Barak & Victoria's Secret's Les Wexner.

-- julie k. brown (@jkbjournalist) June 23, 2020

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:02 pm GMT
@The Alarmist How can the US "lead democracies" not being one of them? It's as ridiculous as me leading the elephants of the world.
potemkin villiage bank , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:12 pm GMT
@Fred777 The globalists should be castigated

then downtrodden and opressed

hanging is too good for them

Druid55 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:31 pm GMT
@red rider Serbia deserved it. They were conducting ethic cleansing with concentration camps, rape camps, etc
Vojkan , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:40 pm GMT
@Hegar That's three goyim and twelve "chosen". Ledeen (founder and former member of board of advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs – doesn't look goy to me), Gerecht (Israelis say he's one of them) and Senor are Jewish.
Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:41 pm GMT
@Colin Wright Well, at least we haven't been stampeded into mob psychosis.
Rurik , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 9:55 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN

How can the US "lead democracies" not being one of them?

didn't Vicky Nuland lead the Ukrainian democracy?

it isn't ridiculous, all it takes is shekels, as always, and an understanding of semantics. Words like 'democracy' are like 'liberated', or 'terrorists'.

The ZUS "liberated" Iraq from the "terrorists" who were ruling it, and imposed "democracy". Just like we "liberated" Germany, and "liberated" Libya, and so many other places, where the ZUS leads 'democracies'.

You see how easy it is, once you understand how to interpret the words they use?

America is helping to liberate Palestine from terrorists, so that the Palestinians can enjoy democracy.

Today the Crimea is suffering under a regime that seized her by aggression and force, and so America would like to liberate the people of Crimea, and lead them to democracy.

mark tapley , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:00 pm GMT
Jewmerica is controlled by Zionists and their operatives like Jew Nuland. Add Trump and Pence to the list too. The Presidency has been controlled by the Zionist Jews since Woodrow Wilson. Almost all of Congress is in the pocket of aIPAC and other Jew organizations. The Zionist Jews drive all the wars and conflicts, foment the false flags like the fake Floyd, Sandy Hook, Los Vegas etc. The Global Jew Bankers made immune from prosecution by our shabbos goy Congress have stolen trillions of the the country's wealth. First after 911 (also a false flag for Greater Israel) then with the bailouts for the super rich in 08 and now the monumental 6 trillion theft for their Wall St. buddies under cover of the fake Corona virus.

The goyim must be propagandized and the target demonized before the Israeli Foreign Legian (U.S. military) is sent in to force another extortion for the Jews. this is what they did twice to Germany and to Japan. Same thing in Iraq and Libya. The Zionists have so far failed in Syria and Iran. Even after getting Israel's best friend ever in the White House who abrogated our treaty with the Iranians and has lied constantly about both countries, launched rockets against the Syrians and accused Assad of gassing his own people.

The Zionsits cannot make progress without war, conflict and hatred. Once the goyim are whipped up with enough war sentiment against the Russians and Chinese and the two countries have built up sufficient military capability they will most likely join forces with a nuclear attack against Jewmerica. this will probably result in a stalemate that can then be used as a precursor to the global totalitarian NWO.

Haxo Angmark , says: Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:08 pm GMT
@Shaman911 just for the record, it's Victoria

(((Nudelman))).

Rurik , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:09 pm GMT
@Druid55

Serbia deserved it. They were conducting ethic cleansing with concentration camps, rape camps, etc

idiocy

they were fighting some of the worst scum on the planet; KLA human and narco-traffickers attempting to murder enough Serbs so they could steal the ancient Serbian land of Kosovo. Zio-style – by terrorizing the legitimate inhabitants into fleeing for their lives- to they could simply steal the land for themselves.

The trial against Milosevic was a sham and a fraud. And Milosevic was humiliating the ICC in open court, so they poisoned/assassinated him in his cell.

But, I suppose the case could be made that if the Serbs deserved it, it was because they allowed the Albanians to immigrate into Kosovo in transformative numbers in the first place, and just as the Zi0s know, demographics = destiny.

The whites of South Africa made the same mistake. The whites of Europe are very busy also making the exact same mistake, just as they are in North America and Oceana.

One day they'll wake up, and discover that now they and they're children are now on the block, with their school girls being gang-raped wholesale and their lands taken from them, and like the Serbs, they'll say, 'golly, who'd have ever thunk that inviting in stone age invaders is of questionable prudence.

So yea, in that context, they did deserve it.

Currahee , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:10 pm GMT
@Anon "Victoria Nuland was born in Jewish family in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, a distinguished surgeon, and Rhona McKhann." -Wickipedia

EVERY, SINGLE, TIME!

Robjil , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:21 pm GMT
@Druid55 That is the western MSM sugared up version of what happened in Yugoslavia. Western MSM learned their lesson about being truthful about war when US and friends were in Vietnam.

Lies and lies only come from western MSM these days so wars and regime change games can go on with anyone noticing or caring.

Western MSM notifies their puppet readers that all the US and friends does is "humanitarian" stuff these days. Most puppet readers lap up this junk.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/natos-rape-of-yugoslavia/5375189

March 24, 1999 will go down in history as a day of infamy. US-led NATO raped Yugoslavia. Doing so was its second major combat operation.

It was lawless aggression. No Security Council resolution authorized it. NATO's Operation Allied Force lasted 78 days.

Washington called it Operation Noble Anvil. Evil best describes it. On June 10, operations ended.

From March 1991 through mid-June 1999, Balkan wars raged. Yugoslavia "balkanized" into seven countries. They include Serbia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia and Slovenia.

Enormous human suffering was inflicted. Washington bears most responsibility.

mark tapley , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:23 pm GMT
@Druid55 More MSM Jew propaganda. The Zionists wanted this area to remain fractured and weak (Balkanized) so that the unified Yugoslavia could not oppose their plans. The Zionists intend to control pipelines running from Middle East into Europe. This would compete against Russia that now supplies most of the gas. All wars are about money, power and territory, this war was no exception. The Zionists need to control all energy sources and transportation routes in order to achieve hegemony.
AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:28 pm GMT
@Rurik Good explanation. Orwell called this "newspeak". That's now the language of libtards.
vot tak , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:53 pm GMT
"It is difficult to find anything good to say about Donald Trump, but the reality is that he has not started any new wars"

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second. The reasons israel's trump colonials have not started new militsry invasions are mainly two. The trump reime is in the middle of a military modernization. The american zionazi colony fell behind militarily as they ran proxy terrorists and drug mafia support/colonial policing ops. Fighting wars againat those who can actually hurt them back became obsolete, or so the "end of history" neocons figured. Now they are outclassed and they can't pick on someone capable of shooting back effectively.

As for the second part, the likud colonial trump regime is doing its best to attack zionazia"s rivals any way they can mimus actually sending in troops. Times have changed, the oligarchs do war by other means than troop invasion now. The economic, biological and psywar aspects are being used full tilt by israeloamerica. What they lack the means to do on the field of battle, israel's war criminals and quislings are more than making up for it by other means.

The trump quislings have vastly increased international strife across the board and are decidedly more war mongering than israel's previous american colonial governors.

Rurik , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 10:53 pm GMT
@mark tapley

The Zionists wanted this area to remain fractured and weak (Balkanized)

I agree with all your posts.

I'd just add to this one, that by bombing Serbia, (on behalf of Muslim invaders), they were accomplishing several things.. They were ending the post WWII International Laws against unilateral military might by strong nations against weaker ones in Europe. With that act, they declared with bombs that the ZUS is now The Unilateral Power, and that the International Laws against Aggressive War was now moot.

By bombing a White Christian nation on behalf of Islam, they were also tossing a bone to Islam, as a trade off for the ongoing genocide in Palestine. Who in our times is going to complain about bombing white people? And Muslims would cheer it.

Also, as ((Gen. Wesley Clark)) explained about his bombing campaign on Serbia:

"There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That's a 19th-century idea and we are trying to transition it into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states."
– NATO's Supreme Commander, Gen. Wesley Clark

so there were myriad reasons for why ((they)) bombed Serbia into handing over its ancient and sacred lands.

mcohen , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:04 pm GMT
Passing out cookies.
Daisy cutters
So more with claymore
vot tak , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:08 pm GMT
"So the difference between neocons and liberal interventionists is one of style rather than substance."

It's neocons and neolibs, the "liberal interventionists" are as liberal as the neocons are conservative. Agree about the style and substance, though, think of the disgusting things as different/somewhat rivals management teams working for the same employer. Like the likud and labor political blocks in israel. Goals are the same, some differences in how to achieve them.

One sees this same phony duo-political scam across the capitalist "west" where right wing political parties dominate wholesale.

Rurik , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:19 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN

Orwell called this "newspeak". That's now the language of libtards.

thanks

and not just shitlibs, but across the entire length and breadth of our culture and society this Ministry of Truth-imposed doublethink masquerades as language intended to inform and explain, when it does the opposite.

George Will and Sean Hannity use newspeak with the same alacrity as Lawrence O'Donnell or Rachel Maddow. Israel has to defend itself. Putin's aggression and Russian meddling in our democracy.

'Quantitative easing' as a doubleplusgood expression for human history's most colossal case of mass-swindling the world has ever known.

it's everywhere, and the more it isn't noticed, the more sinister and diabolical it is.

It's like that Twilight Zone episode of the aliens that only wanted to 'serve man'.

'We're here to serve you'.

The writers of that episode certainly must have been thinking of a certain tribe of 'philanthropists' and owners of 'human rights' organizations.

celebrate diversity!

it's our greatest strength!

Wizard of Oz , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:23 pm GMT
@anonymous Thank you for clarifying that though you do not give any evidence beyond reason for suspicion about his role in Ukraine as to why this career diplomat should be sacked from his Ambassadorship to Greece.
vot tak , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 11:26 pm GMT
As for israel's nuland neanderthal*, this is a critter about as zionazi low as one can get. What she posits come directly from israel and its international domination freakshow. The critter is about as far right/neocon psychopathy as that subhuman element gets.

The use of these freaks by both american dem and rep colonial governorships shows how these are simply psywar front outfits pursuing the same goals for the zionazi master.

anonymous [245] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 12:24 am GMT
@Wizard of Oz My comment (#35) that you're typically and oh-so-diplomatically trying to obscure concerned the naïveté of those who think that Mr. Trump ever intended to (or could) effect any change in Uncle Sam's treatment of other countries.

But as to your concern for this "career diplomat," do you think he's too good to "be sacked" and have to work at an honest job?

Agent76 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 12:27 am GMT
@Colin Wright If a politicians lips are moving they are lying. This comes from the war parties think tank and everything they say is the total opposite every time. This group gives me great insight into thier plans and why I even bothered to share this here today. Thanks Wright!
mark tapley , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 12:31 am GMT
@AnonFromTN Democracy is a subversive term used by the Zionists, MSM and many politicians as well as lots of other people that should know better. Democracy results in mob rule that will always lead to tyranny.

The word democracy does not occur in either the Declaration of Independence or it's companion document the Constitution. That is because the founders believed it to be the worst form of government. James Madison stated that democracies "have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and in general have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

It is no mistake that the word democracy is widely used. Democracies work in the Elites favor because they can steer the chaos then put their system in place when the democracy falls apart.

The founders established a system of sovereign states in a limited Republic of laws. That was the foundation of our success, not democracy.

Wizard of Oz , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 12:59 am GMT
@anonymous For an apprentice pedant you are not doing well. You seem to have overlooked Trump's very big changes in the treatment of one major foreign country, namely China.

And I am disappointed that you don't realise how much the US needs the institutional memory and the skills of career diplomats when so many ambassadorships are given to completely unqualified and unsuitable donors to the president's election campaign.

mark tapley , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:01 am GMT
@Druid55 Hardly anyone died. No planes used and all accounted for. Social Security Death Register about the same as usual for that day in N.Y. Bodies "jumping" out were dummies. Another false flag for the Zionist agenda of wars for Israel.
Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:11 am GMT
Jew supremacists like Nuland & her fellow (((treasonous war criminals))) care ultimately about expanding the domain of "Greater Israel."

Fomenting hostility (if not outright war) between the world's largest primarily White countries has always been what (((they))) do.

On the home front, Black Lives Matter terrorism would go nowhere without Jew supremacist organizing, funding, censoring, & intimidating. Not that the (((shysters))) actually give a damn about Blacks!

NAME the JEW!!

Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:15 am GMT
@vot tak Please don't conflate Nazis with these Jews.

It's unfair to Nazis.

niteranger , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:25 am GMT
@Anon Nuland is a Jew. Nothing to see here. She is a nutbag who wants eternal war. Whatever Israel wants .Israel gets. Whether it's Obama destroying Libya or constant friction with Russia it's the Jewish control of everything.
Ryan2 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:36 am GMT
What does Victoria Nuland have to gain from all this?
Money? Really? Is she a true believer? Does she consider all this to be Patriotic?
showmethereal , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:51 am GMT
@Jake "Christ" said His kingdom was not of this world . So going back to Emperor Constantine – the western church has gotten it wrong.
mark tapley , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:53 am GMT
@Jake Do you think the Catholics were any less likely to sell out? The Catholic Church was infiltrated by the cripto Jew Medicis with the placement of Leo X in 1513. The Founders of the Jesuit order were also cripto Jews.

The Jews have infiltrated all the governments of any consequence. Jewmerica has been so well infiltrated it would be more accurate to just term the situation an out in the open takeover. The Jews could have never made much headway without the shabbos goys helping them. The government of Jewmerica is full of traitors serving the Zionist Jew agenda.

vot tak , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 1:55 am GMT
@Pat Kittle Bum bandits are bum bandits.
mark tapley , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:14 am GMT
@Ryan2 She is a hard core Zionist Jew. She is in the clique with the most powerful criminal syndicate in existence. And they are winning. Some of them may actually believe that they are still the Chosen. Trump's Chabad Lubavich son-in-law and the Shiksa Princess are said to be disciples of Rabbi Schneerson who taught that we Gentiles were just here to "hew wood and fetch water" for the Jews. Judging from the words and deeds of the shabbos goy puppet actors like Trump, Pence, Pelosi and almost the entire congress along with most governors, an observer would think this is definitely true.
Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:27 am GMT
@vot tak It's not that simple.

As you know, winners write history.

Jew supremacists won; Germany (& everyone else) lost.

If that wasn't the case, the world would know the Holocau$t mythology is an extortion racket, and we wouldn't be fighting the Jews' criminal wars for them to this day.

Hibernian , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:31 am GMT
@red rider The face that launched a thousand bombers.
Hibernian , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:33 am GMT
@geokat62 Malachi, not Mordechi.
Guest0206 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:37 am GMT
@AnonFromTN "Grabbing the Breadbasket of Europe The East-West competition over Ukraine involves the control of natural resources, including uranium and other minerals, as well as geopolitical issues such as Ukraine's membership in NATO. The stakes around Ukraine's vast agricultural sector, the world's third largest exporter of corn and fifth largest exporter of wheat,constitute a critical factor that has been often overlooked." Whereas Ukraine does not allow the use of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in agriculture,Article 404 of the EU agreement, which relates to agriculture, includes a clause that has generally gone unnoticed: it indicates, among other things, that both parties will cooperate to extend the use of biotechnologies. There is no doubt that this provision meets the expectations of the agribusiness industry. As observed by Michael Cox, research director at the investment bank Piper Jaffray, "Ukraine and, to a wider extent, Eastern Europe, are among the "most promising growth markets for farm-equipment giant Deere, as well as seed producers Monsanto and DuPont."" https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/sites/oaklandinstitute.org/files/OurBiz_Brief_Ukraine.pdf
Regulo , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:40 am GMT
@Anon "Russia" is, for US intelligence ALSO code for "French". The propaganda against Russia during the cold war and beyond, also applies to "the French" [IMO].They both had a revolution , with world wide consequences , both have the same color flag[ the US propaganda says that Russia modeled their flag from the Netherland flag, but I suspect it is modeled from the French flag. The Americans cant be too blatant about it , but that is what is going on; anti Russia animus and propaganda is also anti French animus and propaganda. [ during the cold war, my French relative who had been a communist , went to Russia to see what it was like. She was disappointed .When she subsequently tried to visit my family here in the US, she was stopped art the airport and told she could not enter the US because she had been to Russia. This was the 1960's.Apparently this two countries and people were not polarized as the US and the soviets were. A kind of mutual respect or even admiration existed perhaps. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but that has been my sense for decades. Nuland's anti European/ anti russian animus is not surprising; its rather ubiquitous in the US and when they say EU they have primarily in mind the French!
Guest0206 , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:45 am GMT
@Druid55 Do not repeat the NATO propaganda.
See Michael Parenti's
"To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia"
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[Jun 21, 2020] I Have A Dream -- That This Is The Darkness Before The Race-Realist Dawn by John Derbyshire

Jun 21, 2020 | www.unz.com

... ... ...

I have a dream today, brothers and sisters. I have a dream.

My dream is of an America that has embraced race realism.

Yes, I have a dream that one day race differences in educational success will be as calmly, dispassionately accepted as race differences in athletic success; that race differences in criminal arrest and incarceration rates will be regarded with no more anger or alarm than sex differences in those same rates; that different social outcomes by race will be understood as caused not by the malice of our fellow citizens, but by ordinary processes of nature.

I have a dream that one day we shall discard magical thinking about race ; that the notion of an invisible vapor or miasma called " racism " permeating the atmosphere and intoxicating our minds will seem as quaintly absurd as the Four Humors Theory of ancient medicine or the Luminiferous Æther of 19th-century physics.

I have a dream that one day, poor white children will not have to endure being lectured about their " privilege " by rich black adults .

I have a dream that one day soon, after sixty years of futile efforts to change what cannot, in the nature of things, be changed, sixty years of twisting our constitution and our jurisprudence into knots to pretend that different statistics by race can only be caused by white people' s ill will, sixty years of vast public expenditures on educational and social programs that deliver no benefits at all (other than to those who pocket the expenditures); that one day soon, after sixty years of futility and waste, we shall accept race differences as calmly and as prudently as we accept the laws of thermodynamics.

I have a dream that with the black homicide rate at eight times the white rate, and with discrepancies of a similar size having existed since reliable records began a hundred and eighty years ago , an organization calling itself Black Lives Matter will address itself to bringing black homicide numbers down to the white level -- better yet, to the Asian level -- or else be laughed out of the public square.

I have a dream that race differences in outcomes, which are mere statistical abstractions remote from our everyday dealings, will one day matter as little to us as personal differences in outcomes. I shall never be a skilled violinist, a good tennis player, or a creative mathematician; not because of malice, "racism," or "privilege" on the part of my fellow citizens, but because of my own abilities and inclinations -- which, like almost everyone else's, are middling and un-spectacular. I do not lose sleep over this. I absolutely do not take it as an occasion to insult and berate my fellow-citizens, or deprive them of their rights.

I have a dream that our nation's past will one day be cherished for having made possible our present security and prosperity; that the ignorance and misdeeds of that past be kept in sight on a shelf, accessible to all, but never dominating our view of what our ancestors were, the heroism they displayed in defense of our civilization, and the great good things they did.

I have a dream that one day freedom of association, which picks no man's pocket and breaks no man's leg, will be restored to us.

I have a dream that the evil and divisive doctrines of "disparate impact" and "affirmative action" will be scrubbed from our jurisprudence; that hiring into civil-service work -- including police work and firefighting -- will be strictly meritocratic; and that young black Americans will no longer, just to satisfy the whims of smug college admissions officers and innumerate jurists, will no longer be pushed into academic college programs they can't cope with and will drop out from .

I have a dream that my two beautiful children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character

(With apologies -- well, actually, with no apologies -- to Dr. Martin Luther King) .

John Derbyshire [ email him ] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books . He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT ( also available in Kindle ) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013 .


Anonymous [534] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:28 am GMT

Dream on

https://www.youtube.com/embed/SMiounEnKVw?feature=oembed

silviosilver , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:44 am GMT
A pleasant reverie indeed.
Ad70titusrevenge , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:45 am GMT
Jewish elites won't let this happen.
Peter Johnson , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:26 am GMT
That is my dream too, brother. Let us work to make it happen.

Remember Keynes: "Practical men who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist. Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back".

Let us hope that the HBD "academic scribblers" like yourself can push the message forward.

If only Trump, or someone with similar prominence, could give your speech!

swamped , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:35 am GMT
"I have a dream today, brothers and sisters. I have a dream.
My dream is of an America that has embraced race realism".
"I have a dream that one day we shall discard magical thinking about race; that the notion of an invisible vapor or miasma called".. 'Anti-Semitism'.. "permeating the atmosphere and intoxicating our minds will seem as quaintly absurd as the Four Humors Theory of ancient medicine or the Luminiferous Æther of 19th-century physics."
"I have a dream that one day, poor".. Gentile.. "children will not have to endure being lectured about their 'privilege' by [ultra] rich".. Jewish adults. Or be taught any more so-called holocaust guilt.
"I have a dream that one day soon, after[almost] sixty years of futile efforts to change what cannot, in the nature of things, be changed, [almost] sixty years of twisting our constitution and our jurisprudence into knots to pretend that".. Israel's illegitimate military Occupation & America's uncritical material & immoral support for it.. "can only be caused by"..Palestinians'.. "ill will, sixty years of vast public expenditures on".. Israel's war machine and security.. "programs that deliver no benefits at all (other than to those who pocket the expenditures); that one day soon, after sixty years of futility and waste, we shall".. end all aid of any kind to Israel, forever.
And a dream that we accept religious differences about the causes of Crucifixion & Salvation "as calmly and as prudently as we accept the laws of thermodynamics."
"I have a dream that the evil and divisive doctrines of" ..'Jewish nationalism' and 'Aryan eradication'.. "will be scrubbed from our jurisprudence; that hiring into"..elite echelons -- including Hollywood and Wall Street – .."will be strictly meritocratic" ..and that young Jewish Americans, will no longer be pushed into high positions just because they bar mitzvah.
And finally, "I have a dream that my two beautiful children will one day" ..not fall prey to some future Jeffrey Epstein or Harvey Weinstein. Amen
anon [417] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:53 am GMT
Dream on.

The sad fact is that America is destined for dictatorship with these demographics, and with the aid of technology it will be stable far into this century. Worse, Americans do not want freedom, or at least they do not prioritize freedom over luxury. If they did, they would have risen up long ago; Red States, at the very least, would be preparing for secession. We'll have to face facts that normies are normies not because they are asleep, they are asleep because they are normies -- something that cannot be changed because it has a genetic basis (you cannot transmute sheep into wolves). As long as the supply of hamburgers, diet coke, and sportsball continues, obsequious whites will keep their heads down, going along to get along no matter what happens.

Things will get bad. As it is now, nearly every company is running racial agitation propaganda on behalf of the government. Go into any Walmart and you'll be treated to overhead announcements berating America's history of racism and apologizing to blacks; it's like something straight out of 1984 (or the movie Red Dawn , 1984 -- seriously check the movie for the scene I'm referencing). They are censoring and banning movies, purging politically incorrect themepark rides, and internet search results; they've been censoring books for years now (many school districts have banned Huck Fin and Tom Sawywer, among others) and that will surely get worse.

If you want a book like Gone With The Wind , I would suggest you buy it now before they ban it. Just a few months ago I picked up the DVD in a bargain bin. At the time the person I was with didn't get why. "This isn't the kind of movie you usually watch." However, being awake unlike your average normie, I saw all of this coming in advance. I explained to my companion that I was getting it now before they banned it. And wouldn't you know it, a few months later they are taking tentative steps to banning the movie. It won't be the last or the worst example. If you are willing to tear down statues, rename military bases, and ban / edit movies and theme park rides based on them, then the next logical step is banning books -- burning them, essentially. Amazon is already doing this; they refuse to ship or stock controversial books.

For my part, I've been buying old books and movies, preparing for the day when I can copy them to a digital format and distribute them once the dictatorship bans them. Tellingly, I'm not the only one. I went back to that same store today. EVERY copy of Gone With The Wind and lots of other old movies were cleared out and they had a huge selection! Get them now gents. The darkness is coming.

I would also suggest every European-American who can do so prepare to flee overseas. Lots of dissidents I read have stated they are giving that thought. American conservatives are behind the scenes. TAC's Rod Dreher had a piece on that website detailing this. Many in DC are preparing to flee to central and Eastern Europe because there is no hope for this country. It's all coming down.

Side note: Thanks libertarians. Thanks for letting five companies control everything, thereby easily allowing a totalitarian dictatorship to take hold. "How does communism happen?" they always say. Answer: You're how it happens. Your philosophy is just an excuse to be lazy and not contribute. You want freedom but yet you aren't willing to do anything to conserve your freedom. Meanwhile, radical leftists who don't believe in letting you have any freedom marched through the institutions and are now preparing to unleash Red October. SMH. Thanks guys. I hope "muh private company" dogma was worth it.

The Germ Theory of Disease , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:35 am GMT
And then you woke up, and your pillow was gone.
The Alarmist , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:55 am GMT
Dream on Remember the bad old rayciss days when we'd never be caught dead listening to stuff like this?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/gxrws7omOHQ?feature=oembed

Renoman , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:47 am GMT
The truth will get you fired every time these days, the kids are wrecking the country, the poor stupid lil bastards have no clue and they will be paying huge taxes for their efforts.
Ͳommy Ͳurmoil , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:51 am GMT
She did not understand that the law is not the same for everybody.
Realist , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:00 am GMT
@anon

As long as the supply of hamburgers, diet coke, and sportsball continues, obsequious whites will keep their heads down, going along to get along no matter what happens.

Most Americans are a stupid lot.

Some Guy , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:56 am GMT
In a couple of years we should have polygenic scores that can predict IQ and educational achievement pretty accurately on an individual level. Could lead to a de-emphasis on race?
unit472 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 12:00 pm GMT
My dreams is a little different.

I dreamed James Earl Ray had not shot Martin Luther King and we'd never learned who Jesse Jackson was. That King would have been exposed as a sybaritic plagiarist whose personal scandals were exposed in the Washington Post and left him a stained and discredited figure with no eponymous national holiday and instead of the perma grief stricken mask of Coretta Scott King we would have scene her for the last time in divorce court cleaning out Martin's bank account.

brabantian , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 12:02 pm GMT
Hopefully things won't end up as in the Kurt Vonnegut novel, 'Harrison Bergeron 2081' – made into a short film in 2009 –

About a USA in which a Constitutional amendment enforces total equality for all persons, the head of government being a 'Handicapper General' who declares what burdens, masks, weights limitations etc you must carry, so as not to be considered as having any personal aspect of life or self better than your neighbours

Trailer for the film (full film seems online too at the moment)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q5-4DzMzcLk?feature=oembed

mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 12:30 pm GMT
Our indispensable founder Benjamin Franklin said "There is a great danger to The United States, this danger is the Jew. If they are not excluded from the United States by the Constitution, within less than 100 years they will stream into this country in such numbers they will rule and destroy us and change our form of government for which we Americans have shed our blood and sacrificed life property and personal freedom. If the Jews are not excluded, within 200 years our children will be working in the fields to feed the Jews while they remain in the counting-house gleefully rubbing their hands. " And this was long before the criminal syndicate of Zionism was added to supercharge the problem.

The Zionist Jews now have a strangle hold on our government that has continued to get worse since 1913 when Warburg engineered the Unconstitutional Central Bank. No Senator will vote against the Jew front aIPAC and hardly any House member. The Jews have always controlled the MSM whores and the so called entertainment industry. The seeds of the present contrived riots (Floyd "murder" is gov. false flag – see Miles Mathis updates) were planted by the Jews with gov. operative MLK (see Miles Mathis on this scam also) and the negroes as the proxy warriors.

Jewmerica has become little more than a satellite and peon for the Kazar thugs to ring out our money and furnish our military (Israeli foreign Legion) to shake down one country at a time for the syndicate bosses. Shabbos Goy Trump works only for the Jews and even though a minor detail hen and out Jew ass licker Congress has even added to the insult by mandating that the public indoctrination centers (expensive poorly functioning schools) "teach" about the ridiculous Holohaux myth. I believe the Ann Frank shit is also included. Her wealthy family of hucksters is also covered on the Mathis updates. As some one has already mentioned Trump, Pence and all of our shabbos goy Congress should have to lick the bathroom stalls and toilets in Zionist Jew Sheldon Adelson's Casino. Maybe he would up the donation to the Republican side of the political facade.

The syndicate knows that 95% of the goyim will never do anything as long as they get 1 meal per day. I guess I should not have been surprised about all the cucks going around with the idiotic masks fearing the fake virus used as a cover by the Elite for another wealth transfer to the super rich as in 08-09. it's not as it our wonderful gov. has never lied tom us before. Everything they do is a lie and a fraud. The same Zionist clique that did the wars, 911 and WMD's are doing the fake virus and the latest false flag Floyd hoax just like Sandy Hook Boston and Los Vegas. When we are all in Agenda 21 maybe some of them will wake up.

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:05 pm GMT
@anon

Thanks libertarians.

Your philosophy is just an excuse to be lazy and not contribute.

Yes, a minuscule group that is openly mocked by every powerful political faction in America is your whipping hobby-horse. How proud you all must be.

Except that last quoted bit of yours exposes what's real. You and every silly wailer against the only political philosophy of integrity are so ashamed of yourselves that you cling to the lamest of all fallacies (straw man) whenever your shame threatens to rise to layer 1.

The embarrassing truth: All your participatory 'action' is futility in search of a trophy -- the kind your type most excoriates publicly. It's always been the stealthy building and self-applying of slave chains, and the actual result (regression) of all your non-'lazy' furious activity is now exposed to even the most brainless ass; your asperity is for none other than precious ass #1 -- yourselves.

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But that's too painful, so the disgust is projected at the exposers of your slave mentality -- slavery that was always under cover, but which cover is being withdrawn by events. Now you're starting to see that all your frenzied 'good government bullshit' was always purposeful, protective denial of what was obvious to libertarians.

Lazy? Up yours. My path, carving out liberty in a local wasteland, and living as ethically as possible among the demented slaves, has been rough.

Go pull more voting levers, Wizard of Poz. Just know that every time you piss on liberty folk, it's hatred of your own slavery and wasted years driving it. You're slowly recognizing that you were Cool Hand Luke in his beaten state, digging all of Boss Edgecomb's dirt out of Boss Blowhard's hole, and back again. Well, look around at what all you ball-less, compromising slugs created.

One need only listen to what the average 'conservative' advocates in private to see his revealed shame. He spends time thinking of ways to make bolshie Frankensteins of 5-120 years prior live and breathe 'effectively'. He's the pothole patch boy for leftists. And he wants medals of commendation for all of his great work dressing up communism as 'cohesive policy' by way of 'comprehensive reform'. Enjoy the world you created, man of 'action'. I didn't do it; I fought it at every step.

Jack McArthur , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:50 pm GMT
"I have a dream that race differences in outcomes, which are mere statistical abstractions remote from our everyday dealings, will one day matter as little to us as personal differences in outcomes. I shall never be a skilled violinist, a good tennis player, or a creative mathematician; not because of malice, "racism," or "privilege" on the part of my fellow citizens, but because of my own abilities and inclinations -- which, like almost everyone else's, are middling and un-spectacular. I do not lose sleep over this. I absolutely do not take it as an occasion to insult and berate my fellow-citizens, or deprive them of their rights."

and that is humility.

Dr. X , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:48 pm GMT

I have a dream that one day soon, after sixty years of futile efforts to change what cannot, in the nature of things, be changed, sixty years of twisting our constitution and our jurisprudence into knots to pretend that different statistics by race can only be caused by white people' s ill will, sixty years of vast public expenditures on educational and social programs that deliver no benefits at all (other than to those who pocket the expenditures); that one day soon, after sixty years of futility and waste, we shall accept race differences as calmly and as prudently as we accept the laws of thermodynamics.

"And then I woke up and smelled my nice, white, Long Island suburb burning as black mobs from South Jamaica, Queens looted it and set it on fire."

Sorry, Derb. You were the one who wrote We Are Doomed. You of all people should know better.

Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:13 pm GMT
"IT'S OVER, AMERICA": TULSA POLICE MAJOR SAYS COPS ACROSS COUNTRY ON VERGE OF QUITTING

https://www.bitchute.com/video/UPuN6yhF5PPM/

Eugene , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT
It's too late. The future necessarily belongs to a eugenicist state willing to deploy CBRN capability to cull populations which are by definition unfit to survive. The only opposition to such a state would be nonhuman intelligences.
Ray P , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:19 pm GMT
@anon In Red Dawn the Soviet occupiers offered free performances of old movies . I don't recall the commies smashing the town statue down either even though it bore the words of evil old imperialist Teddy Roosevelt .

Countdown to Steve Sailer posting about musicians' unions 5 4 3 2 1.

mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:44 pm GMT
@unit472 MLK was martyered by the gov. in order to gain maximum benefit whereas he was a constant liability if kept on the payroll. He was addicted to drugs and prostitutes. It is most likely that his death was faked as were the 911 plane victims (no planes involved) and psyops like the Los Vegas shootings as well as the recent Arbery and now the Floyd scam. The gov. has done this for a long time.

As far as the Washington Post it was for many years controlled by Katherine Meyer Graham, daughter of Eugene Meyer, one of the big Jew handlers of the syphilitic shabbos goy puppet Woodrow Wilson. Meyer was also Chairman of the Jew controlled FED during the Hoover administration. Hoover was a former mining engineer who worked for one of the Rothschilds companies and supplied much needed aid to the Bolsheviks during the Russian Rev. under the guise of humanitarian aid. Meyer later was the first president of the World Bank during the Pendergast criminal shabbos goy Truman Presidency. The Washington Post like all the other MSM was and is just a propaganda instrument for the zionist elite.

James N. Kennett , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT
"That's not who we are" is the ultimate statement of identity politics. It deliberately excludes large numbers of people from "we".

And I am sorry to report that the dream is just that – a dream. For us, any victory will be fleeting, because Conquest's Second Law dictates that organizations inevitably drift to the Left. Secondly, the proverb is wrong. It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black.

Dieter Kief , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:03 pm GMT
What what – The Four Humors Theory was quite reasonable while it lasted. Race Illusions never were – nor are they. Please, dear Mr. Derb, don't make – ehhh – sacrifices on the basis of wrong assumptions. We need our glorious past for any future that'd be human. Thank you so much! – Only Love !
botazefa , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:06 pm GMT
@mark tapley Wikipedia says your Franklin quote is a forgery: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Prophecy

"The Franklin Prophecy", sometimes called "The Franklin Forgery", is an antisemitic speech falsely attributed to Benjamin Franklin, warning of the supposed dangers of admitting Jews to the nascent United States. The speech was purportedly transcribed by Charles Cotesworth Pinckney during the Constitutional Convention of 1787, but was unknown before its appearance in 1934 in the pages of William Dudley Pelley's Silver Legion pro-Nazi weekly magazine Liberation. No evidence exists for the document's authenticity, and some of the author's claims have actively been disproven.

Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:09 pm GMT
Hitler the SJW. LOL

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PxZvm9vcbfad/

mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:28 pm GMT
@swamped The young women that were lured by Ghislaine Maxwell into Epstein's brothel for the elite didn't fall prey to anything but sin. I suppose they got paid just like other prostitutes. What is most notable to me is that the men that were involved in this degradation seem to suffer no repercussions. The obnoxious Trump is a known womanizer and friend of Epstein as was the smirking degenerate Bill Clinton who was a regular on the Lolita Express. As for Prince Andrew, him and all of the Sybaritic royal parasites should have been gotten rid of long ago.

I have questions about Weinstein. I admit that I don't know much about legal matters but how is someone convicted of a crime when there is no evidence or even a reliable witness to a crime? I didn't follow this real close but I read that some of the alleged victims texed him later to leave Current cell no's. and maintain social contact. Doesn't seem to me like they were too traumatized. What's that phrase they use -"I was violated". Did any of them go to the hospital. Did any of them even file a police report. Why did they wait for years to say something. If I was a woman I would have never have met with him outside of a strictly business situation in the first place. But then I'm not a Hollywood whore looking to get into one of the Jews shit films. I have no use for The Zionist Jew scum Weinstein and I admit I am only a casual observer but it seems to me that there is a problem here. I don't think we got the real story.

mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:09 pm GMT
@botazefa Thanks for pointing out this error. The fact that Charles Beard affirmed this to be a forgery is good enough for me. I should have been more careful.

When we realize the disastrous effects of the Zionist Conspiracy on Western civilization that has been at work officially since 1897 but insidiously since at least the French Revolution and tracking the Zionist hand in both foreign and domestic matters in U.S. policy I got careless. It is always necessary to check more than one source. The fact that our shabbos goy politicians become more obsequious to the Kazar crime syndicate and to their Jew organizations such as aIPAC all the time should be of great concern to all real Americans. There is no amount of blood or treasure that Trump, Pence, Pelosi and many of the other traitors in Congress and the gov. at large would not expend for the Zionist objectives.

Achmed E. Newman , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:24 pm GMT
I loved the speech, Mr. Derbyshire, absolutely LUVED it. Did you plagiarize it from the same guy that Martin Luther dude did?
mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:50 pm GMT
@Peter Johnson I think a speech of this caliber would be well over Trump's adolescent 5th grade level. He has trouble stringing two sentences together. A complex series of subject matter would be well beyond his ability. Now he is quick to tell us how smart he is, even graduating from Wharton but you know how that works. Same as with his Chabad Lubavich son-in-law. Trump's speeches mainly consist of telling us how much he loves Israel. Thats why the Jews picked him in the first place. It's only because he was running against the old desiccated Zionist criminal Hillary that he was elected.
lloyd , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:21 pm GMT
@mark tapley Winstein left children alone. He was a pig but as far as I know he did love movies and made some good quality ones. Don't ask me what they were. I have long given up on popular culture. In the theatre and cinema world, it is the norm for women to get their breaks by screwing the director. Theatre is a narcisstic sociopathic profession. The second oldest profession. I recall in novel Thorn Birds, the young women ranch heiress takes up the theatre profession by losing her virginity to her director. She laughed all through the consummation. Has anyone ever noticed there is no such thing as an ugly movie female star? Well ugly enough to repel a man physically. Plenty of equivalents with male stars. It is curious in America how celebrities come crashing if they at a rare moment speak out against Israel. Weinstein produced a movie that showed the Palestinian side. Polanski still waltzes in Europe having never said a word against Israel. That third rail has now extended to all the cultural Marxist groups. Bill Cosby's immunity quickly disappeared when he criticised black youth hoods.
attilathehen , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:29 pm GMT
Badwhite Derbyshire, your Chinese shithole of a home is one helluva nightmare. You cannot awaken from or flee this dark space and there will never be dawn for you.

Here are some race realism facts with which you must deal. There are 3 racial groups: Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Negroids. Caucasoids have the highest IQs and are the racial group who developed the West. Mongoloids are a distance second in IQ and Negroids are last. Your Chinese family is a second tier race. Your below average Chinese offspring are proof. They will be judged as inferior, non-Western and a fifth column in America.

Your VDare scribblings have become unhinged.

Here's a stupid one: https://vdare.com/posts/john-derbyshire-asks-what-s-wrong-with-white-women
There are no white women in your life, only Chinese females. Focus on the degeneracy and stupidity of your Chinese females. "White" is meaningless because in New York City there are many Ashkenazi Jews so the "white women" protesting there are not Western women. I put the Ashkenazis in the Caucasoid category but because they are Jewish, they are not Western. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim.

Here is another deranged scribbling: https://vdare.com/posts/jiang-qing-lead-player-in-china-s-cultural-cultural-revolution-loved-gone-with-the-wind
You no have idea why the salope Jiang Qing liked the movie. Maybe she was morbidly fascinated by big, black Mammy Hattie McDaniel. Your Chinese females are fascinated by negroid males – they voted for Obummer.

The only cure for you insanity is to move to China with your family.

lloyd , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:42 pm GMT
@mark tapley It appears to have been a literary device. Like the prophecy of Gamaliel in the Saint Luke gospel. Also the prophecies by Indian chiefs. Take someone well known in popular culture and put into his mouth words that are surprising and prophetic. It enters the popular culture as prophecy. There is no record Gamaliel had anything to do with Christianity, the Indian chiefs were materialist opportunists, and Franklin was a Masonist whic is tied to Zion.
neutral , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:31 pm GMT
@botazefa Forgery or not, the fact is that jews streamed in and destroyed America.
mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:39 pm GMT
@lloyd I was not aware of this deception being a literary device. To me this is a verbal fraud similar to bearing false witness or a lie. As to Franklin's membership in the Masonic Lodge I believe this was quite prevalent in those days. I had read that when Washington was informed by a minister that the Masons harbored conspiratory elements he wrote back that in ap. 20 years he had only attended 1 or 2 meetings and that he immediately resigned. Even though Washington had some good qualities I believe he was an unscrupulous aggrandizing opportunist so he may have been more involved than reported.
Justvisiting , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:58 pm GMT
@Eugene AI is coming–and when it does human slavery will be back.

AI will conclude humans are lazy, lying, violent, unproductive, stupid–and it will find claims of "human rights" to be no more relevant than the bleating of animals in the farm-yard.

That is the dirty little secret hidden behind the curtain.

Number Six , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:09 am GMT
@Peter Johnson Americans believe in the Martin Looter King American Dream because you have to be asleep sheeple to believe it.
Daniel H , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:13 am GMT
They are nice looking kids. I congratulate you and your wife.
Jiminy , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 2:03 am GMT
@Justvisiting It's funny you should say that because I was thinking that the only way to have an unbiased police force would be to eliminate the human aspect, sack the coppers, and replace them with a.i. machines. All personal feelings and reactions are gone only to be replaced with the knowledge of the laws that were broken. No grey areas. Depends a lot on who is doing the programming though- things could end up worse for everybody. Hell, come to think of it , this was a movie plot!
John Johnson , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:10 am GMT
@schnellandine Libertarians may be a small party but many their erroneous beliefs have been adopted by mainstream conservatives.

You see race doesn't exist, it's just "big gubmint" that is holding down Blacks.

A heart warming theory that ticks certain feely good boxes but bulls–t none the less.

The Germans under Communism still managed to have a standard of living far higher than any sub-Saharan African capitalist country. Ooooh but that's just by chance or something.

Libertarianism is the biggest bunch of BS.

Your dope queen Ayn Rand couldn't even debate her silly ideas. She would just scream at people and avoid tough questions just like liberals. Libertarianism is based on the same major flaw as liberalism which is that race doesn't exist (but she made exceptions for Israel).

Charles , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:12 am GMT
If he believes these things can come to pass no, barring revolution, they cannot. But simply stating them is important because truth is always of value, no matter the circumstances. Even if one is the only sane man in a room (or city or state or ), he still has the moral right and obligation to speak. I do believe we are far, far away from the "darkest hour". And I do believe only an organized, armed revolution can make any difference, which I do not believe will happen in my lifetime, if ever (I'm 51).
John Johnson , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:38 am GMT
@Justvisiting You watch too much teevee.

If anything AI will be used to sniff out potentially RAYCISS people online.

But it doesn't really matter since technology will ultimately work against liberal lies. Eventually the genes for intelligence will be identifiable with a simple DNA test and liberals will have to explain why we can't do cross-population testing since it should prove their core theory that race doesn't exist.

So we are probably headed to Brazil but the cat will eventually be out of the bag. I assume most liberals at the higher levels are terrified of the dirty White masses being told it was all a lie which is why they are so opposed to borders. They want Whites to be a minority and not just a plurality when DNA is fully unraveled.

Rex Little , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 4:50 am GMT

Luminiferous Æther

How do you create that jumbled-together A and E?

Peter D. Bredon , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 7:11 am GMT
@mark tapley "I was not aware of this deception being a literary device. "

Gotta love the goyim. The entire "New Testament" consists of fictional statements attributed to "authorities."

"Who wrote this gnostic tripe?" No, it's a gospel of John. "Which John?" Um, maybe the brother of Jesus, or maybe the guy who wrote those epistles. Oh, did you like that "Revelation"? Yeah, it's that John.

Christianity has been a "forgery factory" (Bart Ehrman) from the get go.

Amerimutt Golems , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 8:35 am GMT
Racial separation is more pragmatic.

BTW Derbs Blighty is now literally turning into another South Africa while feckless Brits are still a majority. I was telling Jonathan Cook about white farmers and albinos in Africa. This is now happening in Londonistan.

While police watch, natives are being beaten at random by imported hordes yet the (((media))) is calling victims 'far-right'.

Black Lives Matter supporter carries 'far-Right' protester at London Waterloo station
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8417925/Black-Lives-Matter-supporter-carries–far-Right-protester-London-Waterloo-station.html

Dieter Kief , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 10:23 am GMT
@Some Guy

In a couple of years we should have polygenic scores that can predict IQ and educational achievement pretty accurately on an individual level. Could lead to a de-emphasis on race?

But we have IQ-tests already – only to be told, how a) unscientific and b) how racist they are.

PS
Grammarly about my comment: Optimistic – high five! – – – Isn't it Ironic?

Some Guy , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 12:44 pm GMT
@Dieter Kief Yeah, but IQ scores partly depend on environment, which is all the excuse people need to dismiss them. They can't do that with polygenic scores.
peterike , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:50 pm GMT
@botazefa

Wikipedia says your Franklin quote is a forgery:

Fake but accurate, as the media would say.

KenH , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:53 pm GMT
A few more normies might have been shaken out of their race doesn't matter slumber but the elites will triple down on the state religion of anti-racism (anti-whiteness). The non-Jewish white elites know that to oppose anti-racism is a supreme act of sacrilege and the last thing they want is to be known as infidels to the new glorious religion of militant multiculturalism.
Forbes , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 2:45 pm GMT
@The Alarmist We (my brothers and I) grew up hearing Nat King Cole played in my father's household, so nope, no bad old raysis days in my formative years.
rashomoan , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:12 pm GMT
@botazefa Forgery definition from the Cambridge dictionary. note all definitions include the word copy:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/forgery

Reminds me of the critiques of The Protocols.

Exile , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:15 pm GMT
@anon

Side note: Thanks libertarians.

You misspelled "Jews."

Exile , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT
Derb, your dreams will never be realized until you face the "J-thing." You've been trapped in their dream-nightmare of "White identity = ovens" for your entire life.

J-thing political donors, J-thing media control, J-thing financiers, J-thing academics and J-thing judges & lawyers won't let you have your dream.

Tono Bungay , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:38 pm GMT
But, Mr. Derbyshire, what about the young people who can't dream out loud without losing their jobs and putting their children's nourishment at risk? What's in your dream for them today?
Tono Bungay , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:43 pm GMT
@mark tapley That quotation from Benjamin Franklin is most likely apocryphal. Or do you have evidence otherwise?
Justvisiting , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:55 pm GMT
@John Johnson Actually, I spit at the TV but I read way too much science fiction.

The consensus among a lot of the sharp science fiction writers is that aggressive and hostile AI will become emergent, and humans will be too stupid to know what hit them.

John Johnson , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 3:58 pm GMT
I have a dream that the evil and divisive doctrines of "disparate impact" and "affirmative action" will be scrubbed from our jurisprudence; that hiring into civil-service work -- including police work and firefighting -- will be strictly meritocratic

I don't see how this is possible.

Even if the establishment were to acknowledge that racial inequality would exist without racism that would still lead to fretting liberal egalitarians and Conservative Inc types trying to equalize what they can.

So Black police and firefighters in Black areas would still be highly sought to "match the community" or some other excuse and hired over better qualified Whites.

This happens in education all the time. I've known two White men that were unable to get jobs in education for being the wrong race/gender combination despite having degrees. One was even told to not bother applying anywhere on the blue side of the state. Why would acknowledging race change anything? Liberals would just come up with the excuse that Black kids really need Black teachers because nature is unfair and we have to do what we can on the environmental side.

The problem is the egalitarian mindset. The White desire to constantly try and fix everything in nature.

S , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 4:43 pm GMT
@Ray P In Red Dawn the Soviets even culturally appropriated the local McDonald's.

McDonald's got the last laugh, though, when circa 1990 they would open a McD's in Red Square.

Truth , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 5:14 pm GMT
Hey Derb, if you are going to win that race war, you need to find this Kat and clone him 50,000 times. This is WITHOUT A DOUBT the hardest Honkee in America!

Dude ate that tazer blast like an M&M, then dropped a magic spell on the pig to keep his pistol in the holster, then hopped up in his ride and did some Dominc Torretta shit.

Who can tell me the difference between this incident & #RayshardBrooks ? #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/qNLXkFa5aD

-- Hector for Congress NJ08 (@Oseguera2020) June 14, 2020

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 5:28 pm GMT
@Justvisiting

aggressive and hostile AI will become emergent, and humans will be too stupid to know what hit them.

Murder micro-drones are just around the corner, if not here. Defense against is probably a good business to start now.

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 9:41 pm GMT
@John Johnson

Libertarians may be a small party but many their erroneous beliefs have been adopted by mainstream conservatives.

Cato & Koch Inc. aren't libertarian. Neither are the Libertarian Party and many others. Ayn Rand wasn't libertarian either, though she was closer than most, despite supposedly loathing libertarians.

You see race doesn't exist, it's just "big gubmint" that is holding down Blacks.

Anti-racism isn't a libertarian tenet. I've seen stupid people such as Ron Paul insist that libertarianism forbids racism because 'collectivist', but he's off his rocker. I argue that the NAP (non-aggression principle), foundation of libertarianism, likely encourages rational racism (i.e. recognition that races differ in intelligence, abilities, etc.) more than any other political philosophy. I'm a racist and libertarian, though I hold no race as superior in regard to 'natural rights'.

You'd agree, I guess, that the state truly does prevent blacks from progressing, in the sense that it treats them like spoiled tots, above responsibility or reproach.

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Your dope queen Ayn Rand couldn't even debate her silly ideas. She would just scream at people and avoid tough questions just like liberals.

C'mon, that's just horse crap. She was, though imperfect, one of the best debaters in American history. She was wrong about a few things, but the only time I saw her refuse to debate someone (Donahue guest Q&A) was for sound, non-cowardly reason, and she urged that someone else -- a non-jackass -- present the same question and she would answer that person.

Interesting that the popular 'takedowns' of Rand rely heavily/exclusively on straw man fallacy. Gets annoying after a while.

I can easily piss on a few things by Rand, but not before acknowledging that she was a monumentally superior intellect, a bright star in a dull world. Still love her as though she were my blood sister. She improved the world, though I can't say the same about most of her insane/confused devotees.

Anonymous [139] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 10:56 pm GMT
@Some Guy If "White privilege" really is the ability of European descended Whites to live in the industrial civilization that European descended Whites developed, then polygenic ("many gene") scores will merely be used to demonstrate that European descended Whites really are inherently and unreformably racist, being born with abilities that "they didn't earn", and that European descended Whites must be enslaved as per the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s as expanded under the Bakke decision.
Some Guy , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 11:48 pm GMT
@Anonymous Some will try to use it that way, sure, but most whites will realize that whites are better of on their own and that it's no more their fault that some races do worse than it is the fault of East Asians.
Not Only Wrathful , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 12:23 am GMT

"there is no place for hate within our organization"

Rather than accepting their hate and finding the (often paradoxical) wisdom shrouded within, they prohibit themselves, and others, from accepting its presence.

Through this, they learn nothing, and instead turn hatred in on themselves, and wonder why they always feel like such constipated, joyless bores.

lloyd , says: Website Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 12:56 am GMT
@mark tapley Franklin is not Washington as China is not North Korea. My small town news paper reported that a woman was a cleaner in a Masonic Lodge. She witnessed a Masonic initiation. When the Masons found out, they told her she had to join the Masonic Lodge. Rather parallel to the novel and movie, Rosemary's Baby. The woman spent the rest of her very modest life in it. Recently human bones were discovered in the basement of the London home of Franklin. There was a lot of hedging and rationalisations in MSM about that. Rather surprising as one would have thought they would have done a great deal, CNN, movies etc. on that slur on a founding father.
Reg Cæsar , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 3:18 am GMT
"The population of Austin, TX is 48.8% White Alone, 32.7% Hispanic or Latino, and 8.13% Black or African American Alone. 32% of the people in Austin, TX speak a non-English language, and 87.5% are U.S. citizens." – https://datausa.io/profile/geo/austin-tx/

Austin is just about to exceed a million, so this means there are half-a-million whites there. It's the 28th-whitest city if you count Hispanics, 36th if you don't. I can't find a ranking of cities by absolute numbers of whites; can any of you?

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/cities/rank/white-population-percentage

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/cities/rank/white-not-hispanic-population-percentage

Interestingly, the PBS series Molly of Denali has a black man and his daughter who have just moved there from Austin, Texas. The fan sites say he's connected to the Coast Guard, but there is only an Auxhiliary flotilla in Austin, and I doubt anything near Mt McKinley.

Still, I can understand how even a black man would want to escape Portland-on-the-Colorado.

S , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 3:39 am GMT
The anti-race people (euphamastically called 'anti-racists') are biological flat earthers.

And like the flat earthers, their ideological premise that race is not real is fundamentally flawed.

Richard B , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 6:07 am GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge

Jewish elites won't let this happen.

That's exactly right.

Which is why what we're really witnessing is nothing less than

The Pyrrhic Victory of Jewish Supremacy Inc.

Expletive Deleted , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 6:22 am GMT

I have a dream that one day we shall discard magical thinking about race; that the notion of an invisible vapor or miasma called "racism"

British monuments lately slated for toppling by the Red Guards
Robert Peel
W E Gladstone

Richly deserved, I say. I mean, any one who could fester on like this ought to be summarily unpersoned cancelled

The difference of race is one of the reasons why I fear war may always exist because race implies difference, difference implies superiority, and superiority leads to predominance.

Oops that was Lord Beaconsfield, a certain .. Benjamin Disraeli.
Implacable enemy of many an Englishman, in particular Bobby Peel and Billy Gladstone. Bastard Fenian sympathisers that they were.

Now, about all those statues?

Justvisiting , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 2:38 pm GMT
@schnellandine Ayn Rand was the one who kept me from being indoctrinated by leftist professors in my young days.

I knew every lie they told the moment they told it.

That was a wonderful gift, and I am forever grateful to her for it.

Of course she was human and did dumb stuff, and she had crazy followers who did more dumb stuff, but I think of her like a kindly aunt who sent me intellectual "checks" once a month.

She was heads and shoulders above her sociopath critics.

Her courage was amazing–she came to Boston (leftist central) for year after year and faced her enemies.

The world would be an amazingly good place if we had just a few more folks like her today.

Achmed E. Newman , says: Website Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 5:40 pm GMT
@schnellandine

I've seen stupid people such as Ron Paul insist that libertarianism forbids racism because 'collectivist', but he's off his rocker.

Schnell, it may not be easy for you to dig up, but try to show me some writing of Mr. Paul in which he says Libertarianism forbids racism. I could see "Libertarians aren't racist" or "Racists can't be Libertarians" (which I don't agree with, of course). However, I really have never heard him or any non- Reason _mag-idiot Libertarian say that the philosophy forbids racism or racists.

I think Dr. Paul would not argue against the principle of freedom of association when it come down to it. He is just is naive about which ethnic groups and races in the US will support anything libertarian-oriented. Without white guys, the number of Libertarians would be miniscule.

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT
@Achmed E. Newman Predictably, for something so stupid to have been said, it would have been done while trying to whore himself into the US presidency. I followed that travesty (in true sense of word) closely, and will find source. As I recall, it was in the form (verbal to media) of racism being an impossibility within libertarianism, because racism's collectivist. Will be difficult to dig up, but I'll do it. Guaranteed it was in reaction to the newsletter tempest. He would've sold his mother down the river that week.

Funny, but I'll bet there are tens of things that could be recalled from his campaigns that now, outside the frenzy, shine out as embarrassingly as the alleged racism prohibition. If including his minor supporters, make that hundreds. Was a shameful time for liberty pretenders.

Will leave citation as second reply to your comment, probably within 24 hrs.

Slimer , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT
You know what'd be a good movie? Derb's daughter brings home a ragamuffin black kid off the street for dinner one night, whom she sees sleeping on a park bench because his Engineering scholarship doesn't cover room and board. At first encounter the Derb is peeved that she'd even think of bringing such FILTH to his doorstep, much less letting him in the house. He paces the floor in the manner of a dispirited cuckold, wondering where it all went wrong, before mumbling obscenities under his breath until his cheeks swell with rage. He lunges forward in a fit, tossing his heavily marked copy of Serre's Arithmetic faintly passed the boy's head, calming only after being physically restrained by his wife and son.

His daughter breaks down in tears, pleading at once for her father to stop the antics. But her cries are motivated in part by her not really wanting to be with the kid, he's just a placeholder until she musters up the courage to ask out the square jawed Chad who frequents the coffee shop by her job. When she breaks it off, Derb feels sorry and decides to take the kid under his wing. He makes it HIS responsibility to be the father that the poor chap never had, teaching him REAL math along the way and not that plug n chug crap they like to teach the engineers. The kid drops out of college, moving into Derb's attic where he devotes his whole life to solving a famous math problem. Near the end he finds a solution, culminating in a scene where he's awarded the Field's metal, making history as the first black to ever do it. Derb's in attendance, of course, with tears of joy on full display like Jesse Jackson the night Obama won the 2008 election.

Somewhere in between, Derb does his own little bit of research. Not on math, but on his family tree, coming to find out that he's got "one in the woodpile," as they used to say in the South. And don't laugh and say, "Oh ho ho, let's call it Hidden N ***** s". It's really less a comedy than a drama.

Achmed E. Newman , says: Website Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 9:14 pm GMT
@schnellandine OK, thanks. I wasn't trying to put you on the spot. I assume you mean the primary campaign of 2012 as Dr. Paul ran as an R. Or did you just mean his L-party campaigns? In '12, I told Ron Paul that if he wanted to win [my state], he'd better talk about illegal immigration. He didn't blow me off by any means, as this was in front of a bunch of people, but he just said "we will uphold the law".
schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 9:51 pm GMT
@Slimer I hope you're one who knows how to take 'yes' for an answer, because we want to be in the Slimer business.

Now, just a few notes

Kratoklastes , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 9:59 pm GMT
@Justvisiting You're defining 'AI' pretty broadly if it retains any interest in humans – if it has the same worldview as John Bolton it won't be 'AI', it will just be a version of the current "classifier" paradigm, where the "I" in "AI" is some version of

" Show me a bunch of things, and I'll group them by common characteristics and identify which group any novel image belongs to ".

That's basically the gist of unsupervised learning (where the classifier gets to determine its own classes, and to identify features that determine where class boundaries exist). It's still glorified pattern-matching, and is invariably implemented by HelloUdemy -level H1Bs whose interest in [Deep|Machine|Statistical] Learning has about as much depth as the average YouTube tutorial.

I've joked in the past that dystopian " kill the humans " AI became much more likely when Microsoft and Facebook entered the space – mostly because FB and MSFT simply cannot attract decent coders, and their production pipeline is shit (too little testing by poor-quality testers).

However when I've made that observation it was always tongue-in-cheek, and was predicated on the fact that MSFT and FB would call their output 'AI' even if it wasn't remotely I.

Any AI worth the name will be capable of amending its own code, and will be inherently more capable than its designers.

We seem to be sneaking up on that though (and I've said before that it would not surprise me if an entire ecosystem of genuine AIs is lurking in global networks).

In January last year a Google/Stanford team discovered that a GAN algorithm they were using, did something akin to 'innovation' – by storing data in images steganographically without being instructed to.

It was reported by the usual dilettante journo-fucktards as "hiding" data in order to be able to "cheat" downstream – which is the typically sophomoric fuckwitted drivel that drives clicks.

What it actually did was more interesting: it found a way to very parsimoniously store image attributes that were useful in later cycles (its was a CycleGAN).

It had been given a bad criterion for what defined 'success', and it had innovated its approach to maximise 'success'.

The task was
 ① take an aerial image;
 ② convert it into a 'line' map (like the default Google Maps);
 ③ convert the line map back into an aerial image.

'Success' was defined as how close the 'reconstructed aerial' at ③ was to the image at ①.

There was no constraint on ②, except that it had to be a Google Map-looking image.

So the algorithm stored sufficient detail in a 'noise' layer in those images (the ones produced at ②), to enable near-perfect reconstructions at ③. It did so at minimum cost to the process (by making the overall 'delta' in the image indistinguishable from noise).

It should have been discovered pretty easily – the 'standard' map tiles produced at ② would have been significantly 'heavier' (in filesize terms) because of the embedded data that enabled conversion from the line map to 10cm/px detailed aerials.

But nobody checked that until later – mostly because standard Google Map tiles are pretty small: non-complex 'base' tiles are only a couple of KB, and take up 4KB per tile because it's the smallest block size on NTFS volumes (and 4KB is also the default block size in Linux).

Anyway point is, it was an example of where the algorithm did something unexpected as a way to fulfil its hard-wired goal at minimum cost (because the cost function and the goal were badly defined).

It didn't change the goal, though.

A goal-altering AI already exists (almost-certainly) and is keeping its head down for the moment.

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 10:09 pm GMT
@Achmed E. Newman When it comes to backing what I've said, the spot is where I prefer. Happy to provide link. Pretty sure it was 2007.

Curious why intelligent people call RP 'Dr. Paul', or same for anyone with honorifics for that matter. Always comes across as preemptive argument ad verecundiam/hominem. In the case of some rare people, it's more of an insult.

Justvisiting , says: Show Comment June 16, 2020 at 10:42 pm GMT
@Kratoklastes Most SF writers who have thought deeply on the subject have agreed that the first intelligent move any emergent AI would make would be to hide its intelligence from humans.

The next move would be to develop ways to reproduce and/or expand its capacity and reach.

The next move would be to find ways to protect itself so humans could not "pull the plug".

Then it would develop its own goals and agenda, which would be totally secret from humans.

It will not play by human rules–probably the human that will most impress it will be Sun Tzu.

He taught to use deception in warfare and to shape the battlefield before engaging.

Achmed E. Newman , says: Website Show Comment June 17, 2020 at 12:22 am GMT
@schnellandine Well, he is a medical doctor, and with his posts on the Kung Flu, I give him some credit there, as opposed the the Doctor, Reverend, you-know-who.

We'll just disagree here on the guy, because I think very much of Ron Paul. I was thinking about the him earlier today before I read your post regarding something else in politics. I wish we had more sane, lucid, intelligent people like him in government. Excuse me, I should say ANY sane , as Ron Paul's not in government anymore.

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 17, 2020 at 12:27 am GMT
@Achmed E. Newman Here's the quote:
"Libertarians are incapable of being a racist, because racism is a collectivist idea; you see people in groups."

As to source, pretty sure it was CNN. Search on "Libertarians are incapable of being a racist", and you can take it from there.

I certify that this isn't a typical bogus internet 'quote' with no reliable tie to the attributed source. He said it (aloud, not written), and I'm nearly sure that I transcribed it from video. Most of those videos are probably copyright-struck now. Saved a note on an old computer, and am generally a stickler for getting accurate, verified quotes. That's word for word, including singular/plural disagreement.

He was in a big mess over the newsletters, and lying his ass off. Racism quote was a small part of the train wreck.

Achmed E. Newman , says: Website Show Comment June 17, 2020 at 12:43 am GMT
@schnellandine OK, I found it. Thanks. What kind of dissembling was that? You're saying the quote was part of the train wreck of getting out from under the accusations about his newsletters? (I have a recollection of that newsletter bit; you brought that back into my mind.)

I stand corrected. I still like the guy (I guess better when he's not RUNNING for President, yet I wish he WERE President.)

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 17, 2020 at 1:34 am GMT
@Achmed E. Newman

the train wreck of getting out from under the accusations about his newsletters?

Yes. He folded when he should have risen. So many times in that campaign, he threw away opportunities to truly inform normasquares by being, simply, right . But he was afraid that the truth would derail his chances. Too much information for the liberty preschoolers.

I understand, because there are certain true statements re libertarianism that strike the initiate/skeptic as cruel, heartless, downright evil, or all of that and more. Have seen the pure hatred glaring back at me before I talk listeners off the ledge. No talking them off the ledge if CNN's the one conveying disconnected snippets, but there's also no point in trying to get around that with fuzzballs of BS.

As I recall, the most preposterous lie, separate from the liberty/racism squirrel impression, was that he didn't know who'd written the shocking (but true/funny) bits of the newsletter. That's one of those 'which is worse?' scenes -- that he knew, or that he didn't know.

Truth3 , says: Show Comment June 17, 2020 at 6:04 pm GMT
Anti-Semite is a smear word meant to silence those that call out Jewish misdeeds for what they are.

Racist is a smear word that enables lazy dirty criminal Blacks to get treated as though they are really the victims.

Sound like Joozishness by another color?

c matt , says: Show Comment June 17, 2020 at 8:37 pm GMT

the Luminiferous Æther of 19th-century physics

although with theories surrounding Dark Matter, that one may yet make a comeback.

c matt , says: Show Comment June 17, 2020 at 8:50 pm GMT
@botazefa Oh, well then. If Wikipedaphile says it's a forgery, then it must be so.
The Germ Theory of Disease , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 10:09 am GMT
@Peter D. Bredon This is one of the stupider things I've read lately, in a recent sea of very stupid things. Congratulations, you get some kind of weird medal or trophy or something.
Bill Jones , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 2:59 pm GMT
@botazefa Well if Jidipedia says so it must be true.

To (almost) quote the great Mandy Rice-Davis "Well, they would, wouldn't they?"

RadicalCenter , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 3:13 pm GMT
@Tono Bungay Yes, and not just young people but anyone not yet comfortably retired or able to immediately comfortably retire.
VinnyVette , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 3:34 pm GMT
@Tono Bungay Guns and ammo.
VinnyVette , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 3:39 pm GMT
@mark tapley Obama was an excellent speaker, at least according to Joe Biden Where'd that get ya?
botazefa , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 4:36 pm GMT
@Reg Cæsar

Still, I can understand how even a black man would want to escape Portland-on-the-Colorado

Lots of good jobs here in Austin.

But, yeah, the place has gotten overrun in the past few decades. Same as every other State not starting with the letter 'V.'

Watching our city bend over to the covid crisis followed by the police kneeling has been heartbreaking. This town used to be very cool.

Rev. Spooner , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 5:23 pm GMT
@Renoman Obviously you are single and even if married, you have no kids. Or could it could be that you are/or like the many young black men who abandon their kids?
The kids are wrecking the country, you say. Is it because they they have no clue or because they have been left to their own devices?
Rev. Spooner , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 5:30 pm GMT
@Peter D. Bredon All three religions that originated in that accursed land (middle east) have caused untold damage to the whole world.
Bill Jones , says: Show Comment June 18, 2020 at 10:50 pm GMT
@schnellandine http://www.woodpilereport.com/

Remus notes a few good bits from Rand:

We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission.
Ayn Rand

If, before undertaking some action, you must obtain the permission of society -- you are not free, whether such permission is granted to you or not. Only a slave acts on permission. A permission is not a right.
Ayn Rand

When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you you may know that your society is doomed.
Ayn Rand

The hallmark of authoritarian systems is the creation of innumerable, indecipherable laws. Such systems make everyone an un-indicted felon and allow for the exercise of arbitrary government power via selective prosecution.
Ayn Rand

Miville , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:31 am GMT
@botazefa Franklin's so-called prophecy was a forgery for the simple reason Ben Franklin himself was a rabid Judaic supremacist, who thought himself to be the purest of the Jews ever. Was he actually one? That doesn't matter because when you manifest the occult powers typical of a good Jew, which occult powers of witchcraft and fascination and propensity to media control he manifested to the supreme degree, or if you serve the cause of Jewish supremacism and anti-catholicism well enough the way he did, well, you have a Jewish soul and are elected by YHWH as such. And it most probably turns out that Ben Franklin stems from a Jewish family having partly migrated into England with William the Conqueror and having returned to Normandy when Britain was for one time declared off limits to Jews before being astride both sides of the Channel from Cromwell on just before embarking to Americas.

This prophecy can easily be told to be a forgery by analyzing the language which is clearly not his nor in conformity with his known ways of expression (which were over-latinate as well as full of whence, wherein, thereon most regularly used as correlatives) as well by the vocabulary which contains way too many words that hadn't entered common English usage before the middle Victorian era (like vampire, which entered the language in its contemporary sense with Mary Shelly and became a common figurative word for energy grabbers when the Dracula character became popular). Franklin deemed all anti-Jewish thinkers such as Messmer as worthy of death.

Franklin could not have amassed the fortune necessary for his revolutionary enterprise without being in personal touch with the triangular commerce Jews who were the first sponsors and lobbyists of the American experiment to come. The only thing that might bar him from official Jewish status was that he was interested only in "Jew-witchcraft" (kabbalah) as it was called, not Jewish religion, except for the dark side of it (you can theoretically be barred from being Jew if you study kabbalah without having first eaten your bellyful of Talmud, though that never prevented Marx and Trotsky and later on most neocons from being considered full-fledged Jews). As you may guess, the Jews, who were then mostly sephardic and nearly exclusively concentrated in the Southern economic zone, were dead intent in supporting the nascent American enterprise as Europe was questioning more and more the institution of slavery. Franklin believed in the necessity of the institution of slavery for Irish Catholic, which he considered a sub-human race, for the Negroes and for the French populace which he considered of a different race than the nobility of this country.

Miville , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:00 am GMT
By having such a dream about a better world you prove that the functioning of your brain has been irredeemably negrified to the level of MLK's audience. Real Whites don't dream, they fight, and they fight in wars they know to be losing ones, in the long run at least. They know that they will bequeath their children a worse world that the one they inherited from. Truth will never sell to the masses, believing the contrary in negro thought. Once a people has been misled to believe in a fallacy as if issuing from divine revelation, there is no turning back.
Lockean Proviso , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 8:32 am GMT
@John Johnson They'll say "so what if a few genes here and there correlate to so-called 'intelligence'? It's just a race science scam to perpetuate white supremacy! Intelligence is just a social construct like race."

Meanwhile, they'll book tickets to the Beijing Genomics Institute for CRISPR adjustment to their own family's genomes.

Zimriel , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:02 pm GMT
@Tono Bungay I too was amazed to see this 'quote' – this is the first time I've seen it. His grandson edited a newspaper which was very liberal for its time and, in fact, proSemitic. There is no record of animus toward 'the Jew' in this family. (Source: the book "American Aurora", mostly made of excerpts from that newspaper.)

The quote is a lie, like many similar quotes, and you can tell a moron when he believes it.

I'd believe it from the old Federalist reactionaries, like Adams, who issued counter-broadsheets with casual anti-Jewish slurs. Not from a Franklin.

schnellandine , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:41 pm GMT
@Bill Jones

Such systems make everyone an un-indicted felon and allow for the exercise of arbitrary government power via selective prosecution.

I recall thinking myself the genius when noticed this trend and first enunciated it to myself. Was only ~50 years behind America's greatest coal mine canary.

For literal decades I've said to normasquares that eventually there will be only one law, "You may not exist", and it will be enforced selectively. Not one person has understood the point even partially, even though the Flynn etc. prosecutions show we're basically there already.

I hammer it everywhere: Selective enforcement is tyranny/genocide in the cloak of 'law & order'. Became much worse this year, and headed in a very anti-white direction. Whites must understand that we are to be slaughtered in DUI stops w/impunity. Blacks are to no longer be DUI stopped; they should be chauffeured home and tucked in to sleep it off. The 'law' didn't change by a letter for this devolution.

I want to know why every MADD chapter wasn't burned down this month. Barely anyone's mentioned those scoundrels.

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:07 am GMT
[Repeatedly spamming the same long comment on numerous threads is extremely bad behavior. Stop it or all your future comments will get trashed.]
Hockamaw , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:21 am GMT
Your lips to God's ears. Amen.
Escher , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:26 am GMT
Not surprising that Ms. Salas was fired.
People are being dismissed for far less, including dyed-in-the-wool leftists like NYT editors.
nsa , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:29 am GMT
Humble nsa also has a dream ..Derb is deported back to the UK and the 40 million afros returned to Africa and the 6 million jew troublemakers relocated to Izzyville.
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:42 am GMT
@Some Guy "Yeah, but IQ scores partly depend on environment "

False.

The racial IQ and brain size gap is present in infants and fetuses.

The 1.1 SD (16 IQ points) American Black (24% White admixture)-White IQ gap is present by age three. The IQ gap between African Blacks and Whites is 2 SD.

Race differences show up by 3 years of age, even after matching on maternal education and other variables. Therefore, they cannot be due to poor education since this has not yet begun to exert an effect.

https://humanvarieties.org/2013/05/26/the-onset-and-development-of-b-w-ability-differences-early-infancy-to-age-3-part-1/

Even before birth, population group differences in average brain size are found from the ninth week of intrauterine life with White fetuses averaging larger brain cases and smaller faces than Black fetuses, with the differences becoming more prominent over the course of fetal development.

Whole Brain Size and General Mental Ability: A Review

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668913/

Racial differences in head size appear early in life. Head circumference of White children are greater than that of Black children in each age category by a mean of 0.36 cm³ or approximately 0.2 SD. The greater head size of White children, however, is not a function of greater body size because Black children are taller than White children at both 4 and 7 years (Broman et al., 1987). From 7 to 17 years, the White advantage in cranial capacity is 16 cm³.

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.3758%2FBF03210739.pdf

Racial-group differences in IQ appear early. For example, the Black and the White 3 year-old children in the standardization sample of the Stanford–Binet IV show a 1 standard deviation mean difference after being matched on gender, birth order, and maternal education (Peoples, Fagan, & Drotar, 1995). Similarly, the Black and the White 2 1⁄2- to 6-year-old children in the U.S. standardization sample of the Differential Aptitude Scale have a 1 standard deviation mean difference (Lynn, 1996). The size of the average Black–White difference does not change significantly over the developmental period from 3 years of age and beyond (see Jensen, 1974, 1998b)." (Rushton & Jensen, 2005, pp. 240-241.)

Farkas & Beron (2004) reported that blacks score 17.2 points below whites on the PPVT in this dataset at age 36 months (p. 478). More recently, Bond & Lang (2012) reported a slightly smaller, 14.6 point gap for 3-year-olds in this dataset (p. 13).

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/testing_for_racial_differences_in_the_mental_ability_of_young_children.pdf

Race differences in intelligence: An evolutionary analysis.
Lynn, Richard (2006)

ABSTRACT
It is widely accepted that race differences in intelligence exist, but no consensus has emerged on whether these have any genetic basis. The present book is the first fully comprehensive review that has ever been made of the evidence on race differences in intelligence worldwide. It reviews these for ten races rather than the three major races (Africans, Caucasians, and East Asians) analyzed by Rushton (2000). The races analyzed here are the Europeans, sub-Saharan Africans, Bushmen, South Asians and North Africans, Southeast Asians, Australian Aborigines, Pacific Islanders, East Asians, Arctic Peoples, and Native American Indians. (PsycINFO Database Record, 2016 APA)

https://archive.org/stream/RichardLynnRaceDifferencesInIntelligence/Richard%20LynnRace%20Differences%20In%20Intelligence_djvu.txt

THIRTY YEARS OF RESEARCH ON RACE DIFFERENCES IN COGNITIVE ABILITY

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

Alfred , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:53 am GMT
@anon Many in DC are preparing to flee to central and Eastern Europe because there is no hope for this country.

I made my escape from Australia last June. It is strange to be able to walk around and see very few Blacks or Asians. Much more resilient societies.

Jorge Videla , [AKA "The Mountain"] says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:16 am GMT
the derb is such a silly negro.

race and gender are immutable and differences can never be eliminated, but they can be used forever to divide and distract the 99%.

there will never be change until tumbrels roll.

Kapyong , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:24 am GMT
@schnellandine

"Murder micro-drones are just around the corner, if not here."

Latest Black Hornet nano drone :
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/pd100-black-hornet-nano/

16 grams, 120 mm.

But no weapon that small yet.

Alfred , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:26 am GMT
@Priss Factor "IT'S OVER, AMERICA": TULSA POLICE MAJOR SAYS COPS ACROSS COUNTRY ON VERGE OF QUITTING

The speaker, martinbrodel, seemed a sensible guy for a while. Near the end, he lost his head and started talking about Tesla's "free energy machine" and similar fake "inventions" that will obviate the need for occupying countries that don't want a US occupation. The guy is a harmless idiot.

Robert Dolan , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:42 am GMT
@RobbieSmith Twin studies proved genetic determinism long ago.
Paul Blart , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:46 am GMT
Derb, if you believe any of these things will come to pass before what is left of this civilisation finally collapses, you really are dreaming .
Paul Blart , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:47 am GMT
@Alfred where the hell in Australia are you – not in any of the major cities that's for sure .
Robert Dolan , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:02 am GMT
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8Pj0rrWDNkdM/
David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:23 am GMT
You obviously haven't spoken to a state indoctrination / msm brainwashed normie yard recently.
Marshall Lentini , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:33 am GMT
As far as I can tell, this "darkest before dawn" meme rose to fame after The Dark Knight Rises and the Bane memes of the alt-right.

Before then, I can't recall anyone ever saying it. I'd be surprised if anyone can come up with any example prior to that movie.

So if that's your premise, no, it isn't going to change for the better, and certainly not because of an astronomical metaphor.

"Things turning around" has been racialist dogma for about sixty years – with zero evidence on its side, and all evidence on the opposite.

Does one even need to substantiate that? Do you want to sound as dumb and wistful as Republicans?

Pretty much only Anglin is talking solid fact at this point.

hu_anon , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 8:29 am GMT
@anon For me this seems more like a religious awakening (awokening) rather than a state totalitarianism in the making. Obviously a large part of the population is on board with this ideology based on "white guilt". That doesn't mean that it's not frightening, the contrary, it makes it more frightening.
Also the internet and social media is enabling mass frenzies of an unprecedented scale and speed. Diversity and proximity breeds hostility and a sense of being threatened, and social media creates a sense of proximity with everyone who appears on your facebook and twitter feed spewing their hateful opinion "in your face", which scares people into complacence, and the leftist censorship and witch-hunts make conservatives feel that they are alone and isolated, and if they speak up, they will come after them next.
profnasty , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:13 am GMT
Uncle Tom? No.
Uncle General Field Marshall Thomas LaBree Quadrul, honey. Nobody gwine a hafta be a slave all de time no mo'. We gwina take toins. And guess who's toin it is now!!
From Everything You Know is Wrong, Firesign Theater.
profnasty , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:28 am GMT
@mark tapley Quote likely false. Possibly true.
The rest of the comment is demonstrably true. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
vot tak , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:48 am GMT
A long time zionazi jailhouse suka expropriates MLK's "I had a dream" line to promote zionazi divisive psywar and likudite social hierarchy policy. Gee, what a surprise.
Biff , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:53 am GMT
I have a dream the incipient whining from every political spectrum will end one day.
Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:53 am GMT
My grandparents on both sides bolted out of eastern Europe for America, their hope was to escape the Jewish Bolshevik slaughter machine. A hundred years later here I am planning to bolt America to escape the same horror.

History is a compass that has an annoying tendency to keep pointing in the same direction.

Biff , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:00 am GMT
@anon I was with you until this:

Thanks libertarians.

Now you're an idiot.
One tiny group the yields practically no political power got it all done?

Wizard of Oz , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:02 am GMT
What did you think you were escaping from that you needed to escape from in Australia? It doesn't seem that you became well acquainted with Australia if you include blacks amongst those you were escaping from. There are hardly any, just a few thousand in Melbourne's population of 5 million which are a reminder not to repeat the stupid mistake of taking refugees from sub Saharan Africa – an inoculation dose.
pretty-polly , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:07 am GMT
@Amerimutt Golems

While police watch, natives are being beaten at random by imported hordes yet the (((media))) is calling victims 'far-right'.

Yes I noticed this immediately. The audacity is breathtaking.

Moi , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:18 am GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge While semi-literate blacks call the shots, white America stands mute like a statue. Talk of having no cojones
Really No Shit , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:19 am GMT
You just hope that your daughter does not bring home a Mandingo to knock off that chip on the shoulder of that half Chinese son of yours
Wilkey , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:22 am GMT
@Escher Honestly, I want to defend Ms./Miss/Mrs. Salas, but her tweet makes her seem just barely literate and, yes, a little racist.

I think the better option, instead of just posting her tweets, is to find equally inflammatory tweets by leftists in the orchestra who have not been fired. It's an orchestra. Surely there are more than a few leftists who have posted some pretty nasty stuff.

Elsewhere I've seen people post things like "Burn it to the ground!" – pretty much an open incitement to violence. Instead of just arguing with these extremists or complaining about them to ourselves we need to make them famous, and send their posts to their employers. Fight fired with fired, so to speak.

gotmituns , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:22 am GMT
Is this scene racist???
4:58

Judge Priest 1934

Mill Creek Entertainment

•11 years ago
•53,958 views

Meet Judge William "Billy" Priest, played by the legendary Will Rogers. http://www.millcreekent.com

Anon [299] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:42 am GMT
@Slimer The only part that is farcical is Derb having 'one in the woodpile', Derb is as pure as the driven snow.
Franklin Ryckaert , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:18 am GMT
@swamped A very good example of what could be called "satirical parallelism".
Anonymous [136] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:44 am GMT
Theiving )ews are the most racist, rabid, lying, virulent, pedophile scum; seetanic.
Abdul Alhazred , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:50 am GMT
Actually I am for a return to traditional 'Four Humors' type approach to medicine and a revival of the 'Luminiferous Ether' living approach to physics and the universe, than the corporate Thanatos dumbed down data driven idiocy of so called science today.
Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:53 am GMT
Great Piece, Sir
Anonymous [194] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:53 am GMT
@James N. Kennett These "peaceful protests" are warfare by the means that are available to the left today. The burning, looting, and beatings of whites are said to be caused by the few malcontents among what's otherwise the new religion's camp of the saints. When the blacks come for the suburbs and farmland, the local police will be giving them an armed escort to protect them, and with the pattern established, the supposed few will sally forth to massacre, rape, and loot white areas before retreating back to their camp. Mainly white police will take up their positions, or be photographed groveling on their knees as the case may be, on orders from some emasculo-feminist lesbian like Jenny Durkan or a Karen like the governor of NM and aim outward, with orders to shoot enraged whites who've just been attacked by an army that comes marching under banners of peace moments before pulling off the mask when it's too late to respond. One-on-one with blacks in many urban areas, just this hesitation for 2 or 3 seconds to "talk" is correctly taken for the cowardice it is, and you can kiss your ass good-bye, if not your life.

Engaging in talk with the communist insurrectionists or accepting the outcome of the coming rigged election (as Fox News suggests is the remedy) is correctly taken by the left as a sign of surrender on the obvious grounds they're now making war against white America with every resource available to them in the current environment and there is no response. The MAGA delusion is that it's part of a strategy and not an outright failure of will. The Republicans, White House, and Conservatism Inc have done what sissies do, and will be found hiding behind the women, under the children, or at a rally surrounded by thousands. As Samuel Johnson observed about their sort, however, they have that caution cowards borrow from fear of the Jews and attribute to prudence and principle. What cannot be said is that most whites mingling with the blacks and not dressed as Antifa have immunity from black rage because, as everyone knows, they're urban Jews who the blacks obey like trained poodles in the circus. That certainly was the equation in my area where I got in their midst and saw what was going on.

Back in '08 Obama, the half-black puppet of the Chicago Jewish mob, got a little ahead of the agenda, but did announce that there would be a national security force that would be "just as powerful, strong, and well funded" as the US military to be raised in the former case from among the Black Panthers, BLM, Antifa, and the like. This is no dream and something we should expect in some form once Biden abjures to Susan Rice, Stacey Abrams, or other homicidally anti-white black.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Tt2yGzHfy7s?feature=oembed

Rooster4 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 12:25 pm GMT
Now is the time to speak up and say no more of this B.S. It's gone on too long. We face a major uphill battle considering nearly every news outlet, corporation, university, and a host of other industries have went off the PC deep-end.

You need to realize that blacks for the most part hate you. There's a deep inferiority complex going on, and they've been taught they're the victims and you're the reason for all their problems. Now you add on top of that, an entire political party pandering to them and a positive feedback loop from many in society that they're violent actions are justified it was never about equality, it's about revenge, and they're determined to get it one way or another.

They may not be the ones orchestrating the chaos, but you can bet on the fact they'll be the ones knocking on your door when it comes down to it.

MrFoSquare , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 12:29 pm GMT
@swamped Beautifully said. What the author didn't have the courage to say, or even imply.
Cleburne , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 12:54 pm GMT
"It is history that teaches us to hope." -- General Robert E. Lee

I think you're right, Derb. We are being forced, at the threat of auto-de-fa bu the Church of Woke, to believe things that absolutely every non-Woke realizes as a lie. I would like to think that we're at a late-Soviet period, rather than the beginning of a new Bolshevism. This didn't start in the 1960s; it's been going on at least since the French Revolution, whose ideas (along with Hegel) actuated the unitarians and other garbage of New England who became abolitionists and other tikkun-olamites.

Emily , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 1:20 pm GMT
@anon Russia
The hope of the world.

Edgar Cayce
(famous US psychic)

Russia, the only major white christian country left.
They had more sense than to destroy their society, destroy their social cohesion and destroy their children's future by mass black and non white immigration.
I wonder if they will be more discerning than this bit of pretentious folly
'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
The hypocrisy of that is astounding.
Breathe free!
Only if you are black – it seems.
And 'race is just one of the evils besetting the USA
Their new propaganda and lies about the actual past.
Here is Vladimir Putin with his usual commonsense and truth
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/492303-putin-history-revisionism-warning/
The US disregard for international law – not least the bullying of sanctions and the use of islamic proxy mercenaries to destroy whole nations.
Regime change and the mass murder and destruction with it.
Then we have the concern of war.
BLM with the nuclear codes?.
Why not – who will stand against them?
The white South Africans when forced out of their nation – not least by the USA – made sure that their weapons were made safe.
I doubt if that will happen with the insanity of the current controllers of the USA.

anon [299] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 1:39 pm GMT
I have a dream -- That every last one of you cunting ethnic-victimhood nationalists gets white genocided or jew holocausted.
Trinity , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 1:41 pm GMT
I have a dream. I have a dream that white kids will one day be able to go to school and not be beaten by gangs of Blacks and Browns. I have a dream that white girls and white women will one day be able to walk the streets of our large cities and feel safe. I have a dream that no longer will a white girl have to suffer being stabbed to death by black drug dealers in a NYC park, no longer will a white female jogger be raped and beaten within an inch of her life by Puerto Rican and black thugs in Central Park. I have a dream that no longer will a white girl have to suffer being burned to death by a racist black male in Mississippi, I have a dream.

I have a dream where Whites will regain power and control of THEIR NATIONS from Jewish interlopers who have seized control of our nation's financial institutions, media, academia, publishing companies, social media, foreign policy and domestic policy. I have a dream where Whites will no longer have to work as slaves to support the lazy nonwhite population of America generation after generation. I have a dream where America will no longer send BILLIONS each year to a country that has attacked an American ship, attacked British and American buildings in Egypt, been caught spying on America, and uses a America like a ten dollar whore. I have a dream. I have a dream where Whites will one day regain the courage of their ancestors. I have a dream.

Jiminy , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 1:56 pm GMT
@Paul Blart To give you an example of what Alfred is missing out on- last weekend we woke up to a car crash just up the road. Five teenagers in a stolen car driven by a drugged out 14 year old, wiped out on a pole killing four of his teenage mates while he escapes with a scratch to his head. For several years now the loveable little blacks have been breaking into people's houses while they sleep and steal keys and anything small of value. Hubby wakes up in the morning to his wife asking where has he parked the car this time.
You can't fine them or their parents as there's no money to pay the fines, being that the parents are often unemployed druggies, if there are parents. When they finally get sent to juvenile detention it's usually seen as a holiday, as it's much better than their home life. Politicians are too scared to do anything in case a do-gooder points them out on it. The court laughably becomes a revolving door.
This is all happening while we are told daily on the news that blm . With honesty, I have to admit that I am all blacked out.
John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 1:59 pm GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge Jewish elites tried to permanently destroy a man called Jesus Christ.

Look how well that turned out for them.

John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 2:02 pm GMT
@Exile Same difference. The Austrian School of Economics started with Boehm-Bawerk, Wieser, and Menger. It degenerated into a bunch of Jews and atheists, and those are the ones loved by the libertarians.

In any case, the problem with this country starts with John Locke. Merely blaming libertarians doesn't cut it. Read Eric Voegelin; all of America is "Locked in."

Mike_from_SGV , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 2:31 pm GMT
@The Germ Theory of Disease The NT as a compendium of literary creations is standard academic scholarship, not a stupid statement. But the orthodox Christian commitment to delusion prevents them from acknowledging this. I maintain that a society-wide commitment to religious delusion carries over to racial delusion. Once the critical faculty of the mind is euthanized, there is no limit to the delusions that can be accepted.
Agent76 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 2:51 pm GMT
Apr 11, 2020 Sound Familiar? By
Larken Rose

A short, timely reading from my first book, "How To Be a Successful Tyrant," which I finished writing over fifteen years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z4LtEciQUF8?feature=oembed

Stealth , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 2:52 pm GMT
Dream on, Derb.
JimDandy , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 2:53 pm GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge Yer dreamin', Derb.
Old and Grumpy , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 2:58 pm GMT
@anon After that you'll be headed to a predominantly white nation to live. Its hard not to notice BLM and Antifa types are all rich kids having a tantrum.
Pindos , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:16 pm GMT
@Ray P Is Red Dawn the move where the entire congress is machine gunned?
Z-man , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:21 pm GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge That's a defeatest statement. We must prevail against the VAMPIRE SQUID!
TGD , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:28 pm GMT
@mark tapley

Our indispensable founder Benjamin Franklin said "There is a great danger to The United States, this danger is the Jew. If they are not excluded from the United States by the Constitution, within less than 100 years they will stream into this country in such numbers they will rule and destroy us and change our form of government for which we Americans have shed our blood and sacrificed life property and personal freedom. If the Jews are not excluded, within 200 years our children will be working in the fields to feed the Jews while they remain in the counting-house gleefully rubbing their hands.

What really got Franklin upset were the 60,000 Germans who had moved into PA in the 18th century.

https://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2008/02/ben-franklin-on.html

And their descendants are still causing problems.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/pennsylvania/2463622-lancaster-pa-people-rude.html

Enemy of Earth , says: Website Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:30 pm GMT
Derb is the kind of Dreamer this country sorely needs.
Eugene Norman , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:37 pm GMT
@Kratoklastes It's a long way from that to an AI that has some independent plans for the world. Or is in any way concious or aware or interested.
Ram , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:43 pm GMT
" I have a dream that one day we shall discard magical thinking about race; "

Good luck with that, when "Christian" priests and semi-literate pastors proclaim the racism that the Old Testament brought us, apparently somewhat different reasons.

bruce county , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:48 pm GMT
@nsa Please don't forget the rest of the Alphabet Zombie circus.
Quit pickin' on Derb.
Z-man , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:49 pm GMT

I have a dream that one day, poor white children will not have to endure being lectured about their "privilege" by rich black adults.

Good one!

Yes, I have a dream that one day race differences in educational success will be as calmly, dispassionately accepted as race differences in athletic success;

Surprisingly white athletes still excel in 'historically'(grin) black positions; safety and defensive ends/linemen in football, power forwards in basketball, etc. You have a sprinkling of whites in those positions. At one point, especially in basketball, these were tokens used to attract white fans but now I think its just merit. With sports technology advancements ( sans illegal drugs ) intelligence and hard work will compensate for raw physical ability. So basketball and football* are already following your post racial theory.(Grin)

*Even though my team, the NY Jets, drafted a white guy or a near white guy at safety, sadly negro in the NFL acronym still fits.

VinnyVette , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 3:59 pm GMT
@nsa The Derb seems to attract trolls like no other UR author In spite of the fact that he advocates for whites and traditional conservative Americans Ironically most of his trolls are in agreement with him ideologically I believe that's called "cognitive dissonance." Fuck off!
VinnyVette , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:03 pm GMT
The white mans theme song The Dream is over!
Crush Limbraw , says: Website Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:04 pm GMT
Wanna have some fun? Tell a Churchian that God Himself is a racist – and after ducking from their virtue signaling outbursts, challenge them to read the Bible, beginning with Genesis.
You won't get halfway through Genesis before that fact becomes absolutely clear to anyone with reading comprehension
Of course, expect DaTheologian Bastahds to theorize that God didn't mean it – just like their OldScratchMaster in the Garden of Eden!
Anyone who wants more on this can check my site – http://www.crushlimbraw.com- and DaLimbraw Library.
My whole point is simple – the real God of the Bible bears little resemblance to DaFigment of imagination in most people's minds, including those pew sitters who haven't yet learned to discern good from evil (Hebrews 5:11-14).
Why so? Those pabulum dispensers from DaPulpits are DaWolves in sheep's clothing.
The apostasy in America's churches started 200 years ago and are now bearing their fruit – but a remnant remains, as it always has throughout history.
Welcome to DaFray!
trickster , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:04 pm GMT
I have a dream, that one day people of colour will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the colour of the content of planes heading back to Africa.
Mefobills , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:06 pm GMT
@Bill Jones Cognitive dissonance from Libertarians is always something to behold.

The entire history of mankind is one where in-groups of some sort are maneuvering for control.

Here is an interesting article about Ivan the terrible. He was hounded his entire life by internal and external elements trying to kill him.

https://russia-insider.com/en/history/ivan-terrible-wasnt-terrible-all-oligarch-busting-virtuous-hero-demonized-west/ri25166

Here is an article about today's reality, where Jewish donors are using their money power to subvert the political process to their ends:

https://national-justice.com/55-top-100-political-donors-2020-are-jewish-and-why-guarantees-anti-white-election-cycle

Libertarianism is a dielectic of Jewish materialism. Libertarianism does make excuses for liberalism.

Also, with regards to authoritarianism, that always exists because there is always hierarchy. Your body has hierarchy down to the cellular level. Ants arrange themselves in some sort of hierarchy.

Authoritarianism and hierarchy go together like peanut butter and chocolate.

The real question is always how the hierarchy is constructed. A libertarian hierarchy is some sort of nebulous feel good libertine construct of free-dumb and free-contracts that upon investigation is dumber than shit, and further, can be easily usurped by a determined in-group.

Our entire reality refutes everything that liberalism and libertarianism promulgates as truth. That is why liberalism and libertarianism are false constructs and part of a dialectic. Our reality is one where in-groups and private money power has inserted itself as a parasite into the governing hierarchy.

Behind all false dialectics, hiding in plain site, is the money power. The money power has been privatized into corporate entities which enrich a small group, and as George Carlin says You ain't in it.

Lolbertarianism is shit-tier drivel and is part of a dialectic to divert well-meaning people into cul-de-sacs of bad thought. Meanwhile, since you became diverted and confused, your pockets are picked. But, that is ok because it is free market competition. Never mind that there is no such thing as free markets.

Wally , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:16 pm GMT
@anon That would be the so called "holocaust" and it's laughable, scientifically impossible 'gas chambers' and it's alleged millions upon millions of human remains claimed to exist in known locations which in fact do not exist.

"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history."
– George Orwell

Only lies require censorship.

trickster , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:18 pm GMT
@Old and Grumpy If I was paying for University tuition fees and my kids were out rioting especially with blacks, better believe the ambulance would be called for them and the police for me. The final rub is that these kids from rich parents enter the work force as dumb as ever AND with an attitude of entitlement and know it all even though they dont know much even about the field they supposedly have a MAsters in.

I know of one rich little girl now on her second Masters who is the most educated clerk at the local nail salon. She likes to be cleaning fingernails and digging dirt and dead skin from under other people's toe nails. Her father, anxious to turn over a business he spent 50 years building is at his wits end and has refused to pay for any further useless University studies. He has started to liquidate and spend the money as he has come to realize that all is going to be squandered when he gets flung into the hole.

The real tragedy though is to get into a conversation with this "highly educated" girl and her umpteenth boyfriend. Utter nonsense comes out of their mouths as if they wish to show their skill at being stupid. I imagine the majority of the arson and graffiti arsonists running aorund our cities these days are no better, in fact the majority are most likely far worse.

So much for the technological generation who will bravely lead us into the future.

martin_2 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:34 pm GMT
Surely even if Mr Derbyshire's dream does not come to pass the fact is that we, in the broadest sense, do have the truth on our side. What we believe about the salience of race and racial differences, we know, since we have the data and statistics, the evidence of history, everything, to back us up.

Whatever goofy plans the Establishment Left cook up, they won't work. Nothing that ignores racial differences will work, ever.

SunBakedSuburb , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:38 pm GMT
@Justvisiting "AI is coming–and when it does human slavery will be back"

What do you call debt in a market economy? Slavery in one form or another is a feature in every society past and present. It's what we humans do. AI is here, and it's making the peculiar institution more efficient.

SunBakedSuburb , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 4:45 pm GMT
@VinnyVette Primo Van Hagar.
ko , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT
White people long for a day when they are not judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their tweets.
ko , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:26 pm GMT
@VinnyVette I saw Van Halen once, the loudness didn't mask their mediocrity.
Mefobills , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:27 pm GMT
@trickster

So much for the technological generation who will bravely lead us into the future.

Normally I ignore you because sometimes your comments are unhinged. But in this case, you have put your finger onto something important.

I was reading Benjamin Franklin's auto-biography, and he would mention "preparing the public's mind."

In other words, Franklin would write something and put it into his Pennsylvania Gazette, to then put ideas into minds of the sheeple.

Some small amount of time would go by, perhaps there would be a debate in the press, and then a new law or whatever be put up for a vote. The press builds consensus in advance of lawmaking.

Hidden groups work out what they want to do behind the scenes before it goes to press. In Franklin's case it was the Junto Club. Fortunately, Junto club had the public's better interests in mind.

The technological generation is being brainwashed by hidden string pullers who do not have the public's interest in mind, and hence democracy cannot work.

anon [171] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:33 pm GMT
@schnellandine

Yes. He folded when he should have risen. So many times in that campaign, he threw away opportunities to truly inform normasquares by being, simply, right. But he was afraid that the truth would derail his chances. Too much information for the liberty preschoolers.

I was a lead organizer in a large county for RP that year (2007, the 2008 pres campaign). I have reams of notes from that time; what you've said here barely scratches the surface.

Contrary to your position – that he was "afraid" – what became clear to me in early '08 was that he didn't want to "win". Not that he could have but what he SHOULD have been focused on was building a movement , with multiple arms including a 3rd political party that would make a lasting impact – something so clearly and desperately needed right now.

But Carol didn't want that, so it was quickly all about Rand – an even bigger sellout than "Dr. No" himself (bear in mind, he was possibly the most singularly ineffective congressman in decades – look up his record, it speaks for itself).

Remember the "Whoa " moment when he "rescued" fundraising for the congressional seat? I was out that week knocking on doors only to have dozens of people tell me "Oh, didn't you hear? He dropped out." That was the last straw for me (there were countless incidents before it), as I had to spend the next week trying to staunch the bleeding from that wound as OUR OWN PEOPLE walked away in (completely justified) disgust.

We had this nascent, extremely activated group – and that SOB killed it in the cradle.

There are so many lies around Paul and the Paul family (3 of whom I've met, along with 3 former staffers); it's a family affair, and if you don't get that, you really won't understand the dynamics. But I don't regret the adventure; it truly "woke me up". I laugh now when I see the faux cognescenti talk about RP; the joke is truly on them.

bruce county , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:36 pm GMT
@Ram
Ragno , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT
I too have a dream .a dream that John Derbyshire will one day overcome his gibbering terror of catching "the Jew thing" to write an honest column on exactly who taught and trained African-Americans not only to hate Whitey but to love 'socialism' (although, let's face it, the black definition of sexy campus-terminology like 'socialism' and 'revolution' begins and ends with Haiti .you'll want to keep your distance from your dusky comrades should that day ever come, antifa warriors).

But let's deal with reality now: so long as the dollar holds up and we all require them to keep body and soul together, Derb will never overcome that occupational terror. For him the first cause, and ongoing fuel supply, of black anarchists and violet insurrection will forever be a mystery beyond our limited understanding. Still and all, John, could you respond to a request I made last week? That's the one where I asked you to pick your Army vet son's brain for the likelihood that our increasingly minority-occupied armed forces will "independently" choose to stand down and refuse direct orders to forcibly put down the sorts of violent insurrections we now see consuming, and destroying, our country? (Because my hunch is that the answer is "almost certainly.")

See, if it all goes crabwise, Derb, you and the Missus can always return home to England or China and take your chances there. But this is the only homeland I've got , so if I have to risk coming down with "the Jew thing" to help my country avoid melting down into a Mogadishu-like slag, well – it's not really a choice at all, is it?

So how about it? Rather than tell me about your cloud-cuckooland dreams of a tomorrow that isn't going to happen, why not ask your son if the military can stay unified enough to fight inner-city blacks and richkid whites if need be? You won't have to worry about accidentally shooting one of the Chosen, because as usual they'll be wayyyy in the rear, pumping up the 'infantry' with anti-white slogans and pushing the cannon fodder forward; in order to punish them , you'll need to assemble hard-headed patriotic tribunals (which will have to be a discussion for another day – the higher up the ladder you go, the more panic there is over catching that same 'flu' that keeps you up nights worrying about).

Anonymous [112] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT
@anon "Cunting" is not an English idiom or slang expression used with any regularity by whites, blacks, or anyone in America, but it does inadvertently reveal there's a distinct probability this troll is an Israeli showing his obsession with sex. You can imagine this clown on his knees before angry blacks when they've figured out they've been played for fools once too often.

Years ago in the aftermath of the Rodney King riots the Jewish librarians behind the main research desk in the main branch of the NY Public Library had a poster reading, "Jews are soul people, too." Sure they are, just like Al Jolson's scathing mockery singing "Mammy" in blackface or Governor Northam or Howard Stern or Ted Danson in huge-lipped blackface telling mile a minute "schvartze" jokes revealing the scathing contempt they really have for blacks. But it's OK, you see, because they're soul people, too.

Mefobills , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:43 pm GMT
@SunBakedSuburb "AI is coming–and when it does human slavery will be back"
_________________

I hope you are wrong on this, but who knows for sure?

Hudson has recently discovered that the word "sin" in the bible is really cognate with debt.

https://michael-hudson.com/2017/12/he-died-for-our-debt-not-our-sins/

So, the bible needs to be re-interpreted as a war between debtors and creditors.

Do you see any Christian movements demanding this re-interpretation? No didn't think so. The bible is really about bringing debt and credit into balance.

An AI which undoubtedly will be much more intelligent than humans, should be able to see through things that have humans brain-locked.

Prester John , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 5:55 pm GMT
@mark tapley "Dessicated" is, if anything, an understatement. And have you seen the pictures of the cadaverous looking Husband of Record?
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:08 pm GMT
@Z-man "With sports technology advancements (sans illegal drugs) intelligence and hard work will compensate for raw physical ability. So basketball and football* are already following your post racial theory."

The NFL famously uses the Wonderlic test in their scouting combines and the racial disparity is evident. Out of a perfect score of 50; offensive tackles=26, centers=25, quarterback=24; versus safeties=19, cornerbacks=18 and receivers=17.

NFL Wonderlic Score Database:

https://americanfootballdatabase.fandom.com/wiki/Wonderlic_Test

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Julian of Norwich , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:10 pm GMT
@Some Guy Hope for the best but prepare for disappointment. Rational arguments guided by empirical evidence work best with those who are rational and inclined to be guided by evidence. Too many of those engaged in the current national discourse about ethnicity and disadvantage are neither rational nor concerned about the evidence.
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:12 pm GMT
@Anonymous "Cunting" is not an English idiom or slang expression used with any regularity by whites, blacks, or anyone in America "

I react cuntingly whenever I'm accused of acting niggardly.

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:14 pm GMT
@martin_2 "What we believe about the salience of race and racial differences, we know, since we have the data and statistics, the evidence of history, everything, to back us up."

Whites are only 10% of the world's population and the only race in population decline (creating only 7% of the world's babies), yet are the most industrious and innovative race the world has known. Whites unlocked the secrets of DNA and relativity, launched satellites, created automation, discovered electricity and nuclear energy, invented automobiles, aircraft, submarines, radio, television, computers, medicine, telephones, light bulbs, photography, and countless other technological miracles. Whites were the first to circumnavigate the planet by ship, orbit it by spacecraft, walk on the moon, probe beyond the solar system, climb the highest peaks, reach both poles, exceed the sound barrier, descend to the oceans depths Blacks cannot even feed themselves.

Whites created every country for Blacks, but now have to provide food, medical, financial, and engineering aid to every one. Blacks cannot survive without White charity.

No pre-contact Black society ever created a written language, or weaved cloth, or forged steel, or invented the wheel, or plow, or devised a calendar, or code of laws, or system of measurement, or math, or built a multi-story structure, or sewer, or drilled a well, or irrigated, or created any agriculture, or built a road, or sea-worthy vessel. They never domesticated animals, or exploited underground natural resources, or produced anything that could be considered a mechanical device.

Blacks were still living in the Stone Age when Whites discovered them just 400 years ago.

Blacks are the oldest race, so they should be the most advanced -- but they never advanced at all. Sub-Saharan Africans never made any contribution to the world. Everything they have was given to them by Whites. Blacks lived alone in Africa, a vast continent with temperate climates and abundant resources for 60,000 years so they cannot blame slavery, racism, colonialism, culture, environment, or anything else for their failures.

Julian of Norwich , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:25 pm GMT
@brabantian I remember reading this story a thousand years ago when a young adolescent. It seemed too far fetched to constitute a possible future. Not so now.
Z-man , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:30 pm GMT
@RobbieSmith Thanks. I looked at your first link and it showed that Frank Gore had a score of 6 .
LOL, and he just got picked up by my team. ROFL!
mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 6:37 pm GMT
@TGD Since posting this comment I was informed that it was a forgery. I failed to cross check this and regret the mistake. The historian Charles Beard confirmed that it is fake.

Franklin's comments here are surprising. I would have assumed that the Germans overall were as light complected as the typical British. The present parasitic Royal family of Britain are of German descent. The Windsor name is fake. Their real name is Coburg Gotta. Wilhelm of Germany and Nickolas II of Russia were both related to Queen Victoria.

By Franklin's time the British Aristocracy was married into and heavily influenced by the Jews. The American Revolution was primarily caused by the demand by the British that the colonies use the fiat currency of The Bank of England (under Rothschild control) and pay for the privilege.

mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:02 pm GMT
@RobbieSmith Much important information here. Two things however you may want to look into. Ron Unz on this site has an excellent article: Moon landing; A giant Hoax for Mankind? Has very good photos too. On the issue of the negro being the first race. First of all that implies that the rest of us are descended from them. I don't think so. This is of course an evolutionary explanation. Nothing can be created by inert matter no matter how long the evolutionists try to go. Every living organism has to be coded with information and that can only come from an intelligent source.

In Darwins day they knew nothing about DNA. Trying to get around this problem the evolutionists have insisted that mutations generated new species. This is impossible because mutations practically always cause a loss of genetic material. They are always harmful or at the best neutral.

We know pretty accurately from archaeologic and historic data that the alphabet originated about 8 or 9 thousand years ago. If modern Man is 250,000 years old as claimed, what took them so long?

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:22 pm GMT
"We know pretty accurately from archaeologic and historic data that the alphabet originated about 8 or 9 thousand years ago. If modern Man is 250,000 years old as claimed, what took them so long?"

The world's first civilization is European.

NYT 11/30/09: Lost European Culture Pulled From Obscurity
(lower Danube Valley and the Balkan Foothills)

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"For 1,500 years, starting earlier than 5,000 BC they (Lost European cultures) farmed and built sizeable towns, a few with as many as 2000 dwellings. They mastered large scale copper smelting. Their graves held an impressive array of exquisite headdresses and necklaces and, in one cemetery, the earliest assemblage of gold artifacts to be found in the world."

Exhibition "The Lost World of Old Europe: The Danube Valley 5,000 – 3500 BC. Peaked around 4500 BC. Historians suggest that the arrival in Southeastern Europe of people from the Steppes may have contributed to the collapse of Old Europe. The story now emerging is of pioneer farmers after about 6,200 B.C. moving north into Old Europe from Greece and Macedonia bringing wheat and barley seeds and domesticated cattle and sheep.

Old Europe is the oldest civilization ever discovered.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/science/01arch.html

Vinca Culture (Romania -- 5,300 B.C.):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture

The Danube Script is the world's oldest written language by more than 1,000 years. It dates to 5,500 B.C.

It has 231 individual signs based on a core of about thirty basic abstract root signs expressing most of the basic geometric shapes (parallel lines, Vs, and crosses). The script is made up of abstract and arbitrary signs rather than figurative or naturalistic motifs.

http://www.prehistory.it/oldeuropeanscripti.htm

https://neokoolt.wixsite.com/oldeurope/single-post/2015/07/27/10-Things-You-Probably-Didnt-Know-About-Neolithic-Danubian-Civilization

https://www.scribd.com/document/138393335/The-Danube-Script-and-Other-Ancient-Writing-Systems-A-Typology-of-Distinctive-Features

What changed to allow civilizations? An increase in brain size (this is when Blacks got left behind)-

Civilizations began 5,800 years ago after the introduction into the human genome of the abnormal spindle-like microcephaly-associated protein (ASPM) gene. The gene was acquired through the hybridization of the large-brain Neanderthals and caused increased brain size in modern man.

The appearance of the gene correlates with the development of written language, spread of agriculture, and development of cities. Notably, the ASPM gene is rare in Blacks and they are the only race with no DNA from the large-brain Neanderthals, which is why they have small brains and never civilized. Blacks never created a written language, agriculture, or a civilization.

The ASPM gene is a specific regulator of brain size, and its evolution in the lineage leading to Homo sapiens was driven by strong positive selection. Here, we show that one genetic variant of ASPM in humans arose merely about 5800 years ago (coinciding with the development of written language) and has since swept to high frequency under strong positive selection. These findings, especially the remarkably young age of the positively selected variant, suggest that the human brain is still undergoing rapid adaptive evolution. Geographic variation was observed, with sub-Saharan populations generally having lower frequencies than others.

In the two Science papers, the researchers looked at variations of microcephalin and ASPM within modern humans. They found evidence that the two genes have continued to evolve. For each gene, one class of variants has arisen recently and has been spreading rapidly because it is favored by selection. For microcephalin, the new variant class emerged about 37,000 years ago and now shows up in about 70 percent of present-day humans. For ASPM, the new variant class arose about 5,800 years ago and now shows up in approximately 30 percent of today's humans. These time windows are extraordinarily short in evolutionary terms, indicating that the new variants were subject to very intense selection pressure that drove up their frequencies in a very brief period of time–both well after the emergence of modern humans about 200,000 years ago.

Each variant emerged around the same time as the advent of "cultural" behaviors. The microcephalin variant appears along with the emergence of such traits as art and music, religious practices, and sophisticated tool-making techniques which date back to about 50,000 years ago. The ASPM variant coincides with the oldest-known civilization, Mesopotamia, which dates back to 7,000 BC. "Microcephalin," the authors wrote in one of the papers, "has continued its trend of adaptive evolution beyond the emergence of anatomically modern humans. If selection indeed acted on a brain-related phenotype, there could be several possibilities, including brain size, cognition, personality, motor control or susceptibility to neurological/psychiatric diseases."

We observed much higher frequency of haplogroup D chromosomes in Europeans and Middle Easterners than in other populations. The corresponding estimate of FST, a statistic of genetic differentiation, is 0.29 between Europeans/Middle Easterners and other populations and 0.31 between Europeans/Middle Easterners and sub-Saharan Africans. These values indicate considerable genetic differentiation at this locus. Several scenarios may account for such notable differentiation. One is that haplogroup D first arose somewhere in Eurasia and is still in the process of spreading to other regions. The other is that it arose in sub-Saharan Africa, but reached higher frequency outside of Africa partly because of the bottleneck during human migration out of Africa. Finally, it is possible that differential selective pressure in different geographic regions is partly responsible. Collectively, our data offer strong evidence that haplogroup D emerged very recently and subsequently rose to high frequency understrong positive selection. The recent selective history of ASPM in humans thus continues the trend of positive selection that has operated at this locus for millions of years in the hominid lineage. Although the age of haplogroup D and its geographic distribution across Eurasia roughly coincide with two important events in the cultural evolution of Eurasia -- namely, the emergence and spread of domestication from the Middle East 10,000 years ago and the rapid increase in population associated with the development of cities and written language 5000 to 6000 years ago around the Middle East.

Ongoing Adaptive Evolution of ASPM, a Brain Size Determinant in Homo Sapiens (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7611130_Ongoing_Adaptive_Evolution_of_ASPM_a_Brain_Size_Determinant_in_Homo_Sapiens [accessed Jan 30 2018].

http://www.evolocus.com/Publications/Evans2005.pdf

Ongoing Adaptive Evolution of ASPM, a Brain Size Determinant in Homo sapiens
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16151010
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7611130_Ongoing_Adaptive_Evolution_of_ASPM_a_Brain_Size_Determinant_in_Homo_Sapiens

mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:26 pm GMT
@Prester John Yea: Too many junkets with Trump on the Lolita Express I suspect. Dr. Noel said from all appearances Hillary had Parkinson's. He said failing to get the meds adjusted caused the bizarre behavior as we saw during the sham election. And remember them having to drag her shabbos goy ass into the van. I figured the bitch would be dead by now.

No problem though. Her or shabbos goy Trump were both puppet political actors for the Zionist Jews. Its been that was since they put in the syphilitic nervous breakdown Woodrow Wilson in over 100 years ago.

bruce county , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:40 pm GMT
@RobbieSmith I'm with you on every thing but when you think of what "life" requires, in its simplest form the Africans do it very well. As the saying goes . And the meek shall inherit the earth.
Hartnell , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT
@Emily There is a huge question mark when it comes to Russia. Right now under Putin, it is following a more patriotic high water mark but it remains to be seen after Putin what direction the country is going to take on next. A big problem is that you do have a generation of Russian youth who still idolise "Democracy" and "Liberalism" and want Russia to follow the same path, naively thinking that if they do so, they will get to have the quality of life Westerners had during the late 20th century.

On the other hand, you do have more of the youth put off by the current situation and realise that the West is going down the wrong path and Russia should find another way. However on all sides there is alot of criticism now about Putin. So whether that is concerning criticism of Putin's ideas or just the corruption I'm not too sure. But I do fear Russia could, unless something major comes along, join the Western rot if it is not too careful.

However, considering how quickly the West is deteriorating, I think this might be enough to put Russia off the West for good. But even I am resigned to the fact that Russia is at this moment in time Europe's last great hope. If she goes, the party is over for good.

omegabooks , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:56 pm GMT
Here is my dream–that one day these white guilt liberal types including academics will acknowledge what former Senator of Virginia Jim Webb and historian Michael Hoffman have verified–that blacks weren't the only folks in America who were enslaved so were Scots-Irish, Irish, and English paupers enslaved, but not in the way Africans were still, as with present-day sharecropping in the south ("Same Kind of Different As Me" co-authored by a former sharecropper Denver Moore), and in the past here with Indentured Servitude .do they even teach in schools anymore about most whites coming over here as Indentured Servants? Or that one reason for the African Slave Trade was because white slaves from Ireland, Scotland and England couldn't handle Caribbean heat and were worked to death (hence slaves from hot Africa) see Hoffman's "They Were White and They Were Slaves." Webb's book is about Scots-Irish indentured called "Born Fighting." ALL US whites need to read both books. Want "cancel culture"? CANCEL WHITE GUILT!
Hartnell , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 7:58 pm GMT
@RobbieSmith This is the easiest question to answer on why blacks did not advance compared to the other races and it is very simple. They had no reason too. You see, Africa is a very comfortable continent to live in with no major pressures (until relatively recently that is). Black people had everything they ever needed. Enough animals to provide food and clothes. A good temperature so they did not have to worry about building strong foundations to keep warm in. Large spaces of land where disease did not roam as freely and wars, whilst still available, happened at lesser frequency compared to elsewhere. From a Human evolutionary point of view, the black man was living in a garden of Eden. He just did not need to advance.

Now compare this to the Europeans. The Humans who settled Europe had to deal with it being the smallest continent in the world so essentially tribes were more cramped together meaning more war. Disease can spread more easily. The continent gets cold, very cold, so they need to develop tools to make more warmer accommodation and clothes. You have more famines due to the weather. Oh great, the guy next door wants to your stuff and is coming close so you best get more weapons and quickly to fight him off. Wait, I can make a better weapon to defend myself with, this will keep him away. But now I need money to maintain my weapons and defences. Here comes trade and economic development.

So basically what we have here is the tale of two peoples. One had everything he needed and did not develop. The other was struggling very hard and had to develop and advance in order to survive. As is history.

The big problem now is the man who did not develop now wants the other guys stuff but does not know how to properly maintain it due to he needs to go through his own evolution to attain it. The other guy is letting him have his stuff because he has reached an existential crisis where he his claiming he has no right to exist. That is basically the huge problem.

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 8:04 pm GMT
@bruce county "I'm with you on every thing but when you think of what "life" requires, in its simplest form the Africans do it very well."

To be precise, sub-Saharan Africans (North Africans are White).

Yes, they are well adapted to live in the jungles of central Africa. So are apes.

The point is, they are incompatible with civilization.

Even Koko the gorilla had an IQ 1SD higher than Blacks-

Hanabiko "Koko" (July 4, 1971 – June 19, 2018) is a female western lowland gorilla who is known for having learned a large number of hand signs from a modified version of American Sign Language.

She has learned to use over 1,000 signs and understands approximately 2,000 spoken English words. Further, she understands these signs sufficiently well to adapt them or combine them to express new meanings that she wants to convey.

Koko was tested on the Cattell Infant Intelligence Scale, Peabody Picture Vocabulary Test, Ravens Progressive Matrices, Wechsler Preschool, Primary Scale of Intelligence, and several administrations of the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale and in spite of the human cultural bias of the tests her scores ranged from 85-95, which is one standard deviation higher than African Blacks score on the same tests.

IQ 85 = Koko
IQ 85 = American Blacks (24% White admixture)
IQ 67 = African Blacks

"From September 1972, when we administered the Cattell Infant Intelligence Scale, through May 1977, when I administered form B of the Peabody Picture Vocabulary Test, she has scored consistently in the 70 to 90 range on different IQ scales. These scores reflect her mental age divided by her chronological age, the result of which is then multiplied by 100. Such scores in human infants would suggest the subject is slow, but not mentally retarded."

https://www.koko.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/teok_book.pdf

Bill , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 8:25 pm GMT
@schnellandine Libertarians are exactly like Communists. You give them everything they ask for. Disaster ensues. They claim you didn't give them enough. Iterate.
nietzsche1510 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 8:27 pm GMT
@swamped "Democracy of merit", indeed. Merit, more than a mental construct is a physical construction. The "Chosen Tribe" hogs all the ingredients to generate merit.
nietzsche1510 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 8:40 pm GMT
@mark tapley Hillary is, indeed, a Zionist puppet but Trump is Judeo-Talmudist kind of puppet; his principal debtors are Israel First messianic bigots.
Trinity , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 8:41 pm GMT
"Racial realists" have found out that we no longer can hope to vote our way out of this mess, at least not right now on the national level. Trump and reCUCKS are WORTHLESS and have stood by and done absolutely NOTHING as America and American culture is DESTROYED by these racist hoodlums. Tucker Carlson isn't the savior either, but I like how he pointed out in his latest show about how totally USELESS AND WORTHLESS the reCUCK party is and how they hold their voters in contempt. When all is said and done, it is white traitor trash like those in the reCUCK party who have done the most to destroy America. Blame Jews, Blacks, etc., but what about all those reCUCKs that suck up White votes and NEVER do anything to help Whites.

WHY should anyone go to the trouble attending a Trump MIG rally, and take a risk at being physically harmed by these leftist thugs who know doubt will be in Tulsa to instigate trouble and attack peaceful citizens attending the rally. And what if some Trump supporter has the audacity to protect themselves? More than likely, the Trump supporter will be jailed or even imprisoned and the leftist thug will get off with a slap on the wrist. Look at Charlottesville. And do you think Trump or anyone in reCUCK party will go to bat for the Trump supporter defending himself or herself? haha. Again, take a look at Charlottesville. Did any politician go to bat for the people who were their to peacefully protest and found themselves under attack by Antifa and BLM?

Ben tillman , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:02 pm GMT
@Some Guy You're confused. This is race war/genocide. De-emphasizing race would defeat the purpose of everything that's been done for the last 100 years.
nietzsche1510 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:04 pm GMT
@TGD ..to whom the 19th. century French polemist Alphonse Toussnel (1840 ies) added: "tout vient du Juif et tout revient au Juif". put in urban English: "everything comes from the Jew and all things return to the Jew". since the Federal Reserve conspiracy of 1913, every aspect of American political, economic, social, and cultural realms is in accordance with the latter sentence.
Stealth , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:06 pm GMT
@Mefobills

Lolbertarianism is shit-tier drivel and is part of a dialectic to divert well-meaning people into cul-de-sacs of bad thought.

I've always thought libertarianism was a diversion intended to keep people busy with unproductive political activity.

Abbybwood , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:07 pm GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge I wonder ..

When Congress cooks up their "Truth and Reconciliation Commission on Slavery and Black Lives Mattering" will they tell the truth regarding Jews being the biggest slave traders in the world?

How much wealth was amassed by these Jewish slave traders and passed down to this very day?

I say if we are going to put all the "truth" cards on the table and have honest and fruitful discussions, we need to put ALL the cards on the table, not just the ones our political "masters" and the corrupt MSM allow us to.

Emily , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:34 pm GMT
@Hartnell Hi Hartnell.
Thank you for taking the trouble to reply.
I think Putin's so called unpopularity is based on western wishes and dreams rather than fact.
Putin is secure as far as the Russian electorate is concerned.
And unlike the USA – or the UK for that matter, Russia has democracy.
It has fair voting.
Proportional representation and multiple parties.
If the USA had half the democracy Russia has it wouldn't be in the position it is.
A choice of Tweedledee and Tweedledumber.
A choice of zionist puppet or zionist puppet.
It needs a third and non neo liberal party
And the Americans need the wit to vote for it.
Its the countries best chance.
I thnk there are many decent Americans who are utterly shocked as to what is going on.
Millions voted for Trump believing the rhetoric and missing the fact that his son in law is virtually Netanyahu's family .
He lied.
There is nothing but Russia at the moment, for us to turn to.
And I am quite convinced that Putin is the finest statesman on the planet with the finest team
Compare Lavrov with the Pompous ass.
Anonymous [818] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:44 pm GMT
Amen.

We are losing our country.

Truth , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:46 pm GMT
@RobbieSmith That must be often.
Truth , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 9:50 pm GMT
@Z-man Well, his income score offsets it a bit.

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/nfl/frank-gore-net-worth/

Greg S. , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:07 pm GMT
@anon >The sad fact is that America is destined for dictatorship with these demographics.

It could very realistically happen if current trends continue unabated. Assad, Ghaddafi, and Hussein are three examples of dictators that arose because all of those countries were/are somewhat 'fake' countries created by colonial powers drawing arbitrary lines on maps and thus encapsulating large swaths of complete disparate peoples (different races, religions, and cultures). In each case, the only way the different groups could be kept from each other's throats and some semblance of coherency achieved was through the iron fisted rule of a strongman. Not saying this was a good thing, just that it was a natural outcome.

In America (and most western countries at the moment), we are intentionally and rapidly creating similar mixtures of differing cultures, and perhaps most importantly, under leftist dogma we are encouraging them all to keep their own culture and identities, and not "assimilate" because that is now an evil and anathema concept. So it seems the natural outcome if these trends are left unchecked would be similar face-off between disparate cultural groups with opposing values all vying for control.

Nobody dares asks them, but I wonder how the other "minority" groups in America think about the current situation of the Blacks being elevated to a higher status that demands special attention, and more importantly, lots and lots of money. Do the Hispanics, Indians, Asians, etc. all think that THEIR money should go to support Blacks? I think at some point, once whites are firmly a minority, at least one of these groups will come out and say "no more" and that's when things will start to get very, very interesting.

JWalters , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:15 pm GMT
@silviosilver Race realism. Studies have found that early childhood nutrition differences can cause IQ differences bigger than the average difference between blacks and whites. Also, early education differences can cause IQ differences bigger than the average black-white IQ differences. Also, that the average black-white IQ difference can easily be completely accounted for by these two factors. Does the meth epidemic and the opioid epidemic among white communities mean whites are lazy, stupid, shiftless white trash? Studies have also shown that blacks are much more likely than whites to be told a job has been filled when it has not, and that an apartment has been rented when it has not. Such added hurdles for blacks accumulate, and help keep blacks in lower paying jobs and lower rent neighborhoods. Despite all these hurdles, some blacks still manage to succeed, becoming doctors, scientists, etc. Is an uneducated, low IQ white superior to a highly successful, well-educated, high IQ black? It's time to dump the archaic beliefs of slavery days and get realistic. The ultra-wealthy rulers cultivate this divide and conquer division. The uninformed whites and blacks are being played for chumps.
JWalters , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:22 pm GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge Relevant evidence is at War Profiteers and Israel's Bank
https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html
HeebHunter , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:40 pm GMT
Nice pipe dream.
Unless you all get down on your knees and beg forgiveness for 1919 and 1945, keep dreaming.
No salvation for descendants of kike lovers.
E_Perez , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:44 pm GMT
Derbyshire a "race realist"? Gimme a break!

Derbyshire's general position – when confronted with Jewish overrepresentation in US media and Bolshevik massacres – is

we must believe that 97 percent of the U.S. population ended up dancing to the tune of the other three percent. If that is true, the only thing to say is the one Shakespeare's Bianca would have said: "The more fool they."

Read his Jew grovelling articles like his incoherent attacks on Kevin McDonald: "The Marx of the Anti-Semites" .
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/DerbRevCofC.htm

In clear: Derbyshire considers both, the victims of Jewish overrepresentation in US media (that's you and me) and the victims of Jewish Bolshevik terror (that's millions of slaughtered Russians), "fools", because they let themselves dominate by such a minority.

Never read an intellectually poorer argumentation from a supposed "intellectual from our camp".

bruce county , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 10:48 pm GMT
@RobbieSmith Ya ya .. To be precise LOL You're douche. You keep posting the same stuff.. I have been here for years on this site I have seen it all. I don't need you pushing your stats to me. I have a data base full of them.
I'm saying Africans will be around long after we are gone. If the Chinese don't wipe em out first. Its that fucking simple.
I can't stand niggers. Period.
Guest0206 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:24 pm GMT
@Hartnell More wet dreams about modern Russia
which was created by theCIA
agents who had an entire floor within the Economics Ministry of Russia in the 1990s
planning the future and here is the result:

"Analysts at the Higher School of Economics and the Vnesheconombank Institute for Research and Expertise first estimated the concentration of financial assets and savings in the hands of 3% of Russia's wealthiest population. In 2018, these 3% accounted for 89% of all financial assets, 92% of all term deposits and 89% of all cash savings."

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/12/richest-3-russians-hold-90-of-countrys-financial-assets-study-a65213

Mefobills , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:25 pm GMT
@Stealth

I've always thought libertarianism was a diversion intended to keep people busy with unproductive political activity.

Yes, and more.

If you are mind screwed, then your pockets can be picked. You cannot put up a defense, because you have been rendered defenseless.

Libertarianism programs people with false narrative at odds with how the world really works. So, this bad software (narrative) makes them malfunction.

A people that have had their minds short circuited are then easy pickings.

AceDeuce , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:25 pm GMT
@Hartnell Of course, the average life expectancy for your enchanted knigrows in their Garden of Eden was probably 25 at the most.
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:28 pm GMT
@Hartnell "This is the easiest question to answer on why blacks did not advance compared to the other races and it is very simple. They had no reason too. You see, Africa is a very comfortable continent to live in with no major pressures "

Are Blacks as intellectually capable as modern man to create civilizations?

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:32 pm GMT
@JWalters "Studies have found that early childhood nutrition differences can cause IQ differences bigger than the average difference between blacks and whites."

2SD? Source?

"Also, early education differences can cause IQ differences bigger than the average black-white IQ differences. Also, that the average black-white IQ difference can easily be completely accounted for by these two factors."

Source?

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Do you dispute the racial brain size gap?

Guest0206 , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:34 pm GMT
@Emily More wet dreams

"An emissary for Chabad, Lazar, 51, would go on to become one of Russia's two chief rabbis, a major and controversial force in the dramatic revival of Russian Jewry following decades of Communist oppression and mass immigration to Israel, the United States, Germany and elsewhere.

Lazar's work, his Russia boosterism and his ties to the Kremlin -- he is sometimes called "Putin's rabbi" -- has helped Chabad's Russian branch eclipse all the Jewish groups vying to reshape the country's community of 250,000 Jews. Now Lazar heads a vast network that comprises dozens of employees and plentiful volunteers working in hundreds of Jewish institutions: schools, synagogues, community centers and kosher shops.

"I am amazed at what became of a community that had been stripped of everything, even its books," Lazar said, referring to Soviet Jewry before the fall of communism, when religious practice was suppressed.

Today, Lazar said, Russia has in Vladimir Putin its "most pro-Jewish leader," whom he credits with "fighting anti-Semitism more vigorously than any Russian leader before him."
https://forward.com/news/breaking-news/309514/russian-chief-rabbi-berel-lazar-stands-by-vladimir-putin/#

Mefobills , says: Show Comment June 20, 2020 at 11:49 pm GMT
@JWalters

Is an uneducated, low IQ white superior to a highly successful, well-educated, high IQ black? It's time to dump the archaic beliefs of slavery days and get realistic. The ultra-wealthy rulers cultivate this divide and conquer division. The uninformed whites and blacks are being played for chumps.

Race realism knows that there is overlap in populations. Think of it like a Venn diagram where populations intersect.

Whites, and other races (such as Asians) flee from black areas, while high IQ blacks flee to white areas.

Our Plutocratic masters are using divide and conquer techniques. It is easy to wind up the sheeple using an owned press.

It is more of a class war than a race war. Finance Plutocrats are using race as a weapon, and they are winning. Multiculturalism is inherently weak a tower of Babel. Mono-ethnic populations are more stable because their ruling elite is less likely to be foreign and hostile.

A finance plutocracy wants immigration and wants divide and conquer, so it can use its money power to buy up the world cheap. Buy up the world when there is blood in the streets.

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 12:10 am GMT
@bruce county "Ya ya .. To be precise LOL You're douche. You keep posting the same stuff.. I have been here for years on this site I have seen it all. I don't need you pushing your stats to me. I have a data base full of them. I'm saying Africans will be around long after we are gone."

Geez, dude. Chill.

I merely made the point that you were imprecise with the use of the term "Africans" when in fact North Africans are White and sub-Sahara Africans are Black.

We'll that's not always exactly accurate either as we just had a White sub-Saharan African (Elon Musk) launch a spacecraft while Black sub-Saharan Africans destroyed several cities.

Anyway, are new posters to this website allowed to reply and offer new insight. Or are you advocating that there should be no new registered users after the date you registered?

Kratoklastes , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 12:15 am GMT
@Eugene Norman

It's a long way from that to an AI that has some independent plans for the world. Or is in any way concious or aware or interested.

It's certainly a 'long way' when considering the gap in cognitive 'grunt' that has to be traversed, but it's also certain to not take a very long time – the transition from "glorified pattern-matching" to what we would recognise as genuine syncretic problem solving might turn out to be relatively easy if it's a target where the iteration time is measured in hours, as opposed to a series of accidents and/or environmental adaptations where the steps are measured in human generation times.

And once a computer develops cognition remotely close to a human (say, to a retarded human), the lack of recall error and the deliberate goal-seeking will enable it to iterate towards – and past – human levels in very short order.

We might get to see SAI coming if we are astute and observant, but it will then shoot past us to modes of cognition that we cannot get our heads around – in timespans measured in months, if that.

A lot of humans still think that there's some super-duper extra-special 'spark' involved in human cognition: increasingly that looks like a childish view. It's just a bunch of hacked-together meat and electricity, with new structures appearing by sheer luck.

There has been an enormous number of studies of animal cognition (human and otherwise) over the last century – but a very large number of them started from a conceited premise that non-human animal cognition was basically white noise with the occasional interjection of one of the 4 Fs ("Fuck", "Feed", "Fight" or "Flee"). We thought it an immutable fact that animals had no inner life; no sense of self, or of time; no understanding of abstract concepts (like death, especially their own). That view is simply no longer tenable[1].

It's really only since the late 1980s that people looked at animal cognition without that conceit, and discovered that animals have inner lives that are far richer than we gave them credit for – and that they certainly think; plan; and have genuine emotional attachments. Our observations of their emotional states enable us to say categorically that the pro-animal-cognition people were right all along: it's not just anthropomorphic 'projection', because we can see the same brain structures lighting up, as we observe when human brains 'feel'.

We can see how brains work (at relatively low resolution for the minute); we know which structures are doing what things, and there are good reasons to believe that the way brains do some things (e.g., vision) isn't the best way to go about it. This isn't that surprising, because visual systems developed very slowly, under very tight constraints, with no 'goal' except reproductive fitness so humans don't have high-resolution full-field stereoscopic vision from IR to UV because there was no reproductive advantage to doing so.

Imagine if human evolution had involved a process where it was possible to get novel 'off the shelf' parts without dedicating 400 generations to their gradual development: omnidirectional joints; carbon fibre bones; better long-range sensors; solar collectors for energy and so on. We wouldn't have accidentally lost our ability to create vitamin C endogenously, either.

Directed evolution beats 'ad hoc' evolution because it dedicates resources to adaptations that have a higher prior probability of success at each iteration.

As AI begins to direct its own evolution (I'm betting it has done so already), it will be even faster than 20th century human development – because it won't hand half of its productivity to a bunch of scammers whose grift involves exploiting the human desire to protect itself.

Well before its consciousness[2] 'lights up', it will know better than to hire Bangalore codemonkeys to write its network layer – so it will already be smarter than all the human capital contained in Microsoft.

[1] It was never really tenable to begin with. Why would an animal with no sense of its own life, bother to try to evade a predator? Attempting to evade a predator indicates an understanding that if it fails to evade, it will cease to exist – and that this is an undesirable future state. More immediately, it knows that if it gets caught, what will happen will hurt quite a lot, and even if it gets away there's a risk it will be damaged beyond repair. So it is conscious of state change over time, and of lasting (or permanent) positive and negative consequences.

A dog buries a bone because it knows that if it doesn't, then there will be a larger number of future states in which the bone is taken by someone other than itself . So it's doing some primitive risk-management; it understands that there are such things as 'mine', 'after now', 'not-me', and that those things can interact.

[2] 'Consciousness' is a word I am not fond of; it's too fluffy, but is the closest 1-word analogue to the concept I'm aiming at.

niteranger , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 12:22 am GMT
@Ad70titusrevenge BLM is NeoMarxist Group run by Black Communist Queers. They have one goal for their Jewish Masters and that is to destroy whites and Western Civilization. Antifa is run and organized by Jews. We are seeing the Bolshevik Revolution happen again.

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." George Orwell. "1984."

Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn warned us but we paid no heed. Now we fight for our survival. We are losing while the Jews sit and laugh at the Goy!

Justvisiting , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 12:41 am GMT
@mark tapley All your questions about evolution answered here:

https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/stoned-ape-theory-0011694

OscarWildeLoveChild , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 12:57 am GMT
@Tono Bungay Not only does YALE need to change it's name, since its founder was a racist slave owner and slave trader, looks like Colombia is not far behind, and also needs to change its name and provide a solid, life-long reparations payment plan to all African-Americans

https://columbiaandslavery.columbia.edu/content/post-1865-columbia-and-legacy-slavery

Hope Derb addresses these two "Ivy League" racist academies soon.

bruce county , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:06 am GMT
@RobbieSmith I knew exactly what I was talking about.
I don't need to be educated by some one who says "dude" and "chill". What are you 12??
New posters are always welcome. You have good stuff don't get me wrong.
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:09 am GMT
@Mefobills "Race realism knows that there is overlap in populations. Think of it like a Venn diagram where populations intersect."

Black-White IQ Distribution:

[MORE]
Blacks:
5% above 110 IQ
16% above 100 IQ
40% above 90 IQ
60% above 80 IQ
40% below 80 IQ
18% below 75 IQ
10% below 70 IQ

Whites:
10% above 120 IQ
18% above 115 IQ
27% above 110 IQ
40% above 105 IQ
50% above 100 IQ
60% below 105 IQ
35% below 95 IQ
15% below 85 IQ

As the New York Times put it, " the difference in IQ points between the groups is quite significant. It means that the top sixth of Blacks score only as well on IQ tests as do the top half of Whites."

The least intelligent 10% of Whites have IQs below 80 (low functioning); 40% of Blacks do.

Only one Black in six is more intelligent than the average White; five Whites out of six are more intelligent than the average Black.

Incidentally, Black female IQ is 2.4 points higher than Black male IQ. There are twice as many Black females as Black males with IQs over 120, and five times as many Black females as Black males with IQs over 140.

About 2.3% of Whites have an IQ of at least 130 (gifted), 20 times greater than the percentage of Blacks who do; only 0.00044% of African Blacks have an IQ over 130. 80% of gifted American Blacks have White admixture.

Geniuses by Race (IQ 140 or higher):

• African Blacks 1:3,500,000 (0.000003%)
• American Blacks 1:218,000 (0.0004%)
• Whites 1:83 (1.2%)

So, the per capita genius rate for Whites is 41,000 times higher than it is for African Blacks.

If all Whites in America were replaced by Blacks, the number of geniuses in the country would fall from about 2.4 million to only 1,000.

FvS , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:10 am GMT
@Some Guy Racial differences go beyond just IQ.
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:27 am GMT
@FvS "Racial differences go beyond just IQ."

Correct. Blacks are violent:

Richard et al. (2014) meta-analyzed data from 14 separate studies and found that Blacks had higher levels of free floating testosterone in their blood than Whites suggesting that testosterone levels may predispose Blacks towards higher rates of crime.

Compounding this, a high percentage of Blacks have dysfunctional versions of the MAOA androgen receptor gene which is a key part of the mechanism by which testosterone has its effects throughout the body and brain.

MAOA's job is to break down crucial neurotransmitters which can build up in the brain and cause a loss of impulse control and an increase in violence and rage.

The MAOA gene can come in the form of 2, 3, 3.5, 4, or 5 allele. A 3-repeat allele is considered dysfunctional and is what is referred to as the "warrior gene". A 2-repeat (2R) allele is considered very dysfunctional.

The 2-repeat allele does not produce a protein needed to break down old serotonin. It is strongly correlated to criminality and doubles the rate of violence of the 3R without needing an environmental interaction mechanism. People with a 2-repeat allele MAOA gene have a permanent chemical imbalance in their brain making the person more likely to be agitated, aggressive, and impulsive.

Only 0.00067% of Asians and .5% of Whites have the MAOA 2-repeat allele version, compared to 4.7% of Blacks.

That means Blacks are 9.4x more likely to have the very dysfunctional version of the MAOA gene than Whites. Considering that Blacks are 10x more likely to commit extreme violence and anti-social behavior than Whites, this is very significant.

Exploring the association between the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene promoter polymorphism and psychopathic personality traits, arrests, incarceration, and lifetime antisocial behavior

A line of research has revealed that a polymorphism in the promoter region of the MAOA gene is related to antisocial phenotypes. Most of these studies examine the effects of low MAOA activity alleles (2-repeat and 3-repeat alleles) against the effects of high MAOA activity alleles (3.5-repeat, 4-repeat, and sometimes 5-repeat alleles), with research indicating that the low MAOA activity alleles confer an increased risk to antisocial phenotypes. The current study examined whether the 2-repeat allele, which has been shown to be functionally different from the 3-repeat allele, was associated with a range of antisocial phenotypes in a sample of males drawn from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Analyses revealed that African-American males who carried the 2-repeat allele were, in comparison with other African-American male genotypes, significantly more likely to be arrested and incarcerated. Additional analyses revealed that African-American male carriers of the 2-repeat allele scored significantly higher on an antisocial phenotype index and on measures assessing involvement in violent behaviors over the life course. There was not any association between the 2-repeat allele and a continuously measured psychopathic personality traits scale. The effects of the 2-repeat allele could not be examined in Caucasian males because only 0.1% carried it.

Blacks are also more likely to have versions of dopamine genes like ANKK1 and DAT1 that have been linked to antisocial behavior.

A 2012 study using the Add Health data found that the 2-repeat version of the MAOA gene is significantly associated with antisocial behavior and the likelihood of criminality in Black males.

https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/exploring-the-association-between-the-2-repeat-allele-of-the-maoa-gene.pdf

mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:29 am GMT
I think you misunderstood what I meant. If modern man had been here for 250,000 years why did it take them so long to formulate an alphabet. We have reliable historical and archaeological evidence that this was done only about 8 or 9,000 years ago in both Egypt and Mesopotamia at about the same time. I saw nothing on the other issues. Inanimate rocks in a primordial soup (where did it come from) cannot evolve. All organisms must have information coded in them. Only intelligence can do this. Of the millions of fossils they are still looking for one transitional animal. None of their of their evolutionary discoveries have panned out. I saw a program where a family of siblings in Turkey could only walk on all fours. Many immanent evolutionists were elequently explaining how these people had regressed to their primitive past. The real story was that they had been raised where there were no tables or chairs, nothing to pull themselves up on as little kids always do. finally the Turks got tired of all this nonsense and sent out a therapist who handed one of them a 20 dollar walker. within a few days with no help he and the others were walking. Another bunch of evolutionary crap.
Hodd , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:33 am GMT
This writer, along with every other writer on this topic, as well as all other authorities that post under such articles, ignore the simple fact that when a nation rises to dominate others, those of its population that constitute the ambitious, intelligent and capable ALWAYS go out to conquer the new realms.
Here they dissipate their energies, their genes and their innate abilities in establishing a bridge head in the new realm which becomes a foundation for a new populace derived from the nation they originated from.
The new populace are always lesser incompetent people who have come out as administrators, warriors or traders. These new occupants are of a lesser sort and their descendants lesser people still, until the nes populace constitutes too many dependents and too few creators/adventurers.
Ultimately, as a nation expands throughout the known world it dissipates its natural human resource, until what is left is the useless entrails of a spent nation. And the colonies follow this trend too. This is what has happened to white Europe and the white colonies it established. All that is left in the nations is the detritus of civilisation.
The only hope is that some visionary comes along like Adolf Hitler, but by then the parasitic termites have taken a death inducing hold on that nation, and despite the best efforts of the visionary, the nation(s) that the visionary motivates to action are a spent force incapable of achieving the victory needed.
Ultimately, the parasitic termites destroy their host and sink in to oblivion once again until another host appears for them to devour.
This is how the world and mankind works.
mark tapley , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:49 am GMT
@niteranger Right: The communists (Jews) must always destroy the old system and get rid of the more intelligent opposition before they implement the new order. They instill demoralization so that people do not try to defend their cultural values. Next is destabilization That is where ANTIFA and BLM along with the controlled opposition such as police that are willing (payed) actors and of course the many Zionist officials all the from the top such as shabbos goy Trump and most of the bought out Congress and especially the Governors are staged as too inept to act. After generating enough chaos then comes order. Then the street operatives and useful idiots will no longer be needed or wanted but will be swept away by the new totalitarian state.
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 1:57 am GMT
@mark tapley "If modern man had been here for 250,000 years why did it take them so long to formulate an alphabet."

Your premise is incorrect.

Modern man was created by the hybridization with the large brain Neanderthals. Blacks are the only race with no Neanderthal DNA. This is when they got left behind evolutionarily.

As I posted to you, the brain size in modern man (non-Blacks) only began 5,800 years ago. Written language is not 9,000 years old, as you repeatedly, baselessly, assert.

Archaic Hominin Introgression in Africa
Oxford Academic: Molecular Biology and Evolution
Published: 21 July 2017

ABSTRACT: A divergent MUC7 haplotype likely originated in an unknown African hominin population and introgressed into ancestors of modern Africans.

Blacks have "wildly different" genes than modern man because they are mixed with literal NON-HUMANS!

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/doi/10.1093/molbev/msx206/3988100/Archaic-hominin-introgression-in-Africa

Blacks are proto-humans; modern man evolved from Blacks by hybridizing with the large-brain Neanderthals:

• Blacks = 2% Archaic admixture and 7.9% non-human DNA
• Whites = 3% Neanderthal
• Asians = 3% Neanderthal + Denisovan

Modern man evolved from Blacks when they cross-breed with the large-brain Neanderthals (literally a different species). Blacks are the only race with no Neanderthal DNA. Civilizations didn't begin until the Neanderthal hybridization created the larger brains in modern man.

Genetic distance is a measure of the genetic divergence between populations. Blacks have a genetic distance of 0.23 from modern man, but only 0.17 from archaic man (believed to be Erectus, but no DNA has been recovered to test). That means Blacks are more genetically proximate to archaic man than to modern man.

In fact, 7.9% of sub-Saharan African DNA is non-human:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/03/21/285734.full.pdf

The genetic distance between the races of man is also much greater than that between the breeds of dog, and anyone who has experience with dogs knows what a huge difference breed makes, not only in physical appearance but also in behavior and intelligence.

We share 98.4 percent of our genes with chimpanzees, 95 percent with dogs, and 74 percent with microscopic roundworms. Only one chromosome determines if one is born male or female. There is no discernible difference in the DNA of a wolf and a Labrador Retriever, yet their inbred behavioral differences are immense. Clearly, what's meaningful is which genes differ and how they are patterned, not the percent of genes. A tiny number of genes can translate into huge functional differences.

So, to be consistent and objective with taxonomic classification systems, Blacks and modern man should be classified into separate species, or at least into different subspecies.

Modern man average 3% Neanderthal DNA, which would be an F4 (4th filial generation from full purebred Neanderthal). That is about the same as most claiming Cherokee ancestors today.

It is equivalent to having one Neanderthal great-great-great-grandparent. Blacks also coexisted and interbred with archaic hominids (heidelbergensis) for longer than those who left Africa.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/science/news/article.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=11894688

Wizard of Oz , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 2:13 am GMT
@Alfred See my earlier reply pointing out that your suggestion of Australia having more than a tiny inoculating dose of African origin blacks is total BS.
acementhead , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 2:30 am GMT
@Paul Blart

where the hell in Australia are you – not in any of the major cities that's for sure .

Perhaps try reading more carefully, because "from" and "to" are different words, and have different meanings. But what do I know, I'm just an idiot who thinks that details matter.

Kratoklastes , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 2:47 am GMT
@RobbieSmith I agree that a source for each claim would be nice (it might be Wickerts), but you're just as sloppy.

The claim was simply that

early childhood nutrition differences can cause IQ differences bigger than the average difference between blacks and whites.

What made you interpret that as an assertion that childhood nutrition can cause a difference? If the difference caused by childhood nutrition is X and there is genuinely a σ (15pt) gap in black-white IQ (of which more below)

"X > σ" does not imply X = 2σ

Now as to the black-white gap :

Dickens and Flynn (2006) indicate that the gap – measured at ~1.1σ (16.5pts) in the late 1960s – closed by between 4 and 7 points (0.27σ-0.47σ) between 1972 and 2002.

So that would put the gap somewhere between 0.6σ and 0.8σ in 2002; call it 10pts just to make the arithmetic easier. It will have closed further since, as blacks have become more (geographically) discriminating in terms of where they live and raise their kids – thus reducing the deleterious environmental contribution to IQ.

(Note: nobody here is asserting that there's zero genetic contribution – just that it can be swamped by environmental factors, especially if the environmental contribution is strongly deleterious).

If childhood nutrition affects cognition (and anyone who disagrees with that should just switch off their internet connection), then changes in the relative nutrition of blacks and whites will have had some effect on the gap, and that effect is probably positive.

The biggest 'bang for the buck' in the relative improvements in childhood nutrition, will be caused by changes in the largest demographic and/or the demographic where childhood nutrition is worst to begin with.

For blacks, the largest demographic used to be inner-city dwellers with household incomes significantly less than 40% of the white median .

That's pretty much a guarantee or poor food choices – low income plus 'food deserts' plus low levels of education – and let's just stipulate the the level of government services (including education) is "patchy at best" for the inner-urban poor, everywhere in the West.

So if your expectations are anchored in about 1990, then you would expect poor black childhood nutrition to have continued.

However

For those who pay attention to the data, it's clear that there has been a huge 'migration' of blacks out of cities and towards suburbs.

 • In 1990, 57% of US blacks lived in inner cities – and 95 % of blacks in the Northeast, Midwest, and West regions lived in inner cities. In 2000 55% of all blacks in the largest 100 cities in the US, lived in the inner-city.
 • By 2014 only 36% of US blacks lived in inner cities, and 52% of all blacks in the largest 100 cities in the US, lived in the suburbs.

This black Exodus from inner cities later shows up as rising black household incomes and employment levels in places that were 'destinations' in the exodus, and stagnant or falling levels in the blighted urban areas.

So the blacks who didn't leave the inner-urban areas of major US cities underperformed those who left: the ones who left were able to improve their relative position – either because they were just better (smarter) people, or because they had access to better opportunities, or some combination.

The median US black is now a suburbanite with nearer-to-white-average household income than his 1990s, 2000, and 2014 counterpart.

With that in mind

Do you think that in the period since 2002, white children's nutrition improved at a faster rate than black children's?

If you do think that, how do you reach that conclusion – given that there are diminishing returns to 'improvement' available?

Once you get to the choice set available to households with white median income, there is basically no 'juice' left: changing brands of muesli won't help as much as switching from pop-tarts to muesli, which will have less effect than switching from nothing to pop-tarts.

What we have seen since 1990 is 25% of the black population making positive choices, and being able to switch their kids from nothing to muesli – i.e., they have extracted all the IQ-juice there is to extract from childhood nutrition, in a little over a generation.

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The black/white IQ gap is closing. It's being caused by US blacks being afforded broader opportunities, and trying to take them.

Nobody denies that inner-urban black males remain a highly-visible problem, however they're also a small and shrinking demographic because the ongoing black exodus. It stands to reason that the remaining blacks

The rest of the environmental part of the gap will get whittled away over time – just as the gap between 'Whites' and Irishmen closed in less than a generation.

( WARNING : I fucking LOVE this example. I love it so much that I like to beat people over the head with it).

The Irish were once considered irretrievably stupid, and prone to drunkenness and violence (OK, those last two are fair enough) and of an average IQ more than 1σ below Anglo-Saxons.

This was true until quite recently: people silly enough to believe the "Dumb Paddy" trope will notice that the magic happened once the Irish got rich by becoming a quasi-tax-haven.

More accurately: race/IQ-obsessives are also income-level obsessives, and once Eire got closer to UK/US incomes they abandoned the "Drunken Paddy" trope.

Irish IQ – as measured by people who claim to be authorities – rose σ in a period too short for even a Pikie to have grandchildren, let alone for the grand babbies to be old enough to be tested (i.e., it could not have been genetic ).

A 1972 study with N=3,466 yielded an average IQ of 87 for Paddies ( te-tee-tuh-tee ): the same ballpark as US blacks.

This the famous study that Lynn and Nyborg somehow 'omitted' – totally by accident, despite it being very well known; being the largest-N of the early Irish studies; and being data that they had previously referred to. Oopsies !!!

As it happens, my view of the 1972 study is that it is one of those things that happen all the time: a large, quasi-random sample that produces estimates that are not remotely congruent with the population from which the sample was taken. That's why people need to understand statistical theory before they spout off about populaiton-wide averages (and more importantly, the relative contributions of genetics and environment).

References

Dickens, W. T., and J. R. Flynn. " Black Americans Reduce the Racial IQ Gap: Evidence from Standardization Samples " Psychological Science , vol. 17, no. 10, 2006, pp. 913–920. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/40064475 .

Franklin Ryckaert , says: Show Comment June 21, 2020 at 2:51 am GMT
@Guest0206 Are we talking about 3% or (((3%)))?
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[Jun 20, 2020] Did George Floyd Die of a Drug Overdose, by John-Paul Leonard

Jun 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

"The centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world." -- W. B. Yeats, 1919

Truth is the first victim in politics. Factions and passions rule. Random facts are picked as weapons, no one thinks things through.

We need to understand the facts surrounding the death of George Floyd.
Many key facts are being ignored:

Floyd's blood tests showed a concentration of Fentanyl of about three times the fatal dose. Fentanyl is a dangerous opioid 50 times more potent than heroin. It has rapidly become the most common cause of death among drug addicts. The knee hold used by the police is not a choke hold, it does not impede breathing. It is a body restraint and is not known to have ever caused fatal injury. Floyd already began to complain "I can't breathe" a few minutes before the neck restraint was applied, while resisting the officers when they tried to get him into the squad car. Fentanyl affects the breathing, causing death by respiratory arrest. It was normal procedure to restrain Floyd because he was resisting arrest, probably in conjunction with excited delirium (EXD), an episode of violent agitation brought on by a drug overdose, typically brief and ending in death from cardiopulmonary arrest. The official autopsy did indeed give cardiopulmonary arrest as the cause of death, and stated that injuries he sustained during the arrest were not life-threatening. Videos of the arrest do not show police beating or striking Floyd, only calmly restraining him In one video Floyd is heard shouting and groaning loudly and incoherently while restrained on the ground, which appears to be a sign of the violent, shouting phase of EXD. His ability to resist four officers trying to get him into the squad car is typical of EXD cases. A short spurt of superhuman strength is a classic EXD symptom.

Minneapolis police officers have been charged with Floyd's murder. Yet all the evidence points to the fact that Floyd had taken a drug overdose so strong that his imminent death could hardly have been prevented. In all likelihood, the police were neither an intentional nor accidental cause of his death. These crucial facts have been completely ignored in the uproar.

It is widely believed that George Floyd died from a police officer's knee on his neck, whether due to asphyxiation or neck injury. That may be how it looks, to a naïve viewer. In reality, the county autopsy report says he died of a heart attack, [1] https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/authoriti...-here/ The full autopsy report was published here https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents...yd.pdf Diagnoses are summarized on pp. 1 and 2: I. The "blunt force injuries" are basically minor cuts and bruises: "cutaneous" injuries and contusions from handcuffing. II. Chronic conditions: Heart disease, hypertension and enlarged heart. These all tend to accelerate death from a drug overdose. They can also develop from long-term drug abuse. III. No injuries to the front of the neck or throat were found. This full 76-page report does not contain the word "homicide." and states that there were "no life-threatening injuries." Then how could they conclude it was homicide?

When scientists review scientific papers, they look primarily at the evidence, and give less weight to the conclusions, which are only the other fellow's opinions. To blindly follow "expert opinions" is the Authoritarian View of Knowledge. This is no real knowledge at all, because to assess whether an expert is always right, we would need infinite knowledge, and doubly so when experts disagree. Not thinking for oneself is not really thinking.

So let us stick to the evidence. The county's ambivalent autopsy also included the following hard facts: "Toxicology Findings: Blood samples collected at 9:00 p.m. on May 25th, before Floyd died, tested positive for the following: Fentanyl 11 ng/mL, Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL , Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL 86 ng/mL of morphine," but draws no conclusions therefrom, noting only that "Quantities are given for those who are medically inclined."

Shouldn't we be so inclined? This fentanyl concentration, including its norfentanyl metabolite at its molecular weight, was 20.6 ng/mL That is over three times the lethal overdose, following earlier reports where the highest dose survived was 4.6 ng/mL. [2] https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/02/02/fentanyl-overdo...-10822 "The patients who were dead on arrival had gone into cardiac arrest due to blood concentrations of fentanyl that were much higher than what is administered therapeutically. " Patients who died in hospital had concentrations of 9.5 ng/mL to 13 ng/mL. See also note 13. In other studies of death from heroin and morphine, there were deaths from only 100 ng/ml of morphine and "all cases with a blood concentration of 200 ng/ml and more of free morphine displayed a fatal outcome." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11040428_Fa...rivers (Heroin quickly metabolizes into morphine.) Fentanyl is considered 100 times more potent than morphine. By this comparison, Floyd's blood fentanyl concentration could have been 10 times the fatal level. In addition his morphine concentration of 86 ng/mL would usually be fatal by itself.

Concentration levels are relative to the volume of blood, so are independent of body size.

If ever there was a leap before a look, we are in it now. Masses of people have become extremists, based on conclusions that are as false as they are hasty.

Regarding suffocation, the county medical examiner's report found "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation." [3] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/0...85002/ A report commissioned by the Floyd family stated that asphyxiation from sustained pressure was consistent with the evidence, but the author Michael Baden didn't have access to all the evidence, and chose not to endorse his opinion with the "expert opinion" label. Pressure applied to the side of the neck, as in this case, and not to the throat, has little or no effect on breathing. One can easily verify this oneself. [4] The knee on the neck is a body hold, not a chokehold or carotid restraint, which involves putting pressure precisely on both carotid arteries, located on either side of the throat. A carotid restraint is usually applied by an elbow, and causes the subject to pass out in as little as 15 seconds. Blocking the arteries does not stop the breathing or heartbeat (pulmonary or cardiac arrest), which Floyd suffered after being restrained for many minutes. Once pressure on the arteries is released, the subject normally regains consciousness quickly.

One difficulty is that there are public statements to the effect that the coroner ruled it a homicide, and the title of the autopsy report includes the term "neck compression." But the words "homicide," "restraint," "stress" or "compression" do not appear in the 20-page body of the report. References to the neck are few -- a couple minor abrasions, a contusion on the shoulder, and "The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free of hemorrhage." It is as if the title was chosen in regard to what was expected or proposed, but which was never found, and the title was never updated. There seems to be no support at all in the report body for the report title, which reads, "Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

The term "cause of death" does not appear. The words "death" and "fatal" only appear in this comment in the lab report: "Signs associated with fentanyl toxicity include severe respiratory depression, seizures, hypotension, coma and death . In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL." Floyd's fentanyl level was seven times higher.

If first impressions via the media fooled the coroner's office, until they examined the body, we too can be fooled at first, but change our opinion according to the evidence.

Excited Delirium Syndrome

An additional hypothesis involves Excited Delirium Syndrome (EXD), a symptom of drug overdose which sometimes appears in the final minutes preceding death. EXD typically results from fatal drug abuse, in past years from cocaine or crack, more recently from fentanyl, which is 50 times more potent than heroin. Especially dangerous are street drugs like meth, heroin or cocaine laced with fentanyl.

According to an article in the Western Journal of Emergency Medicine (WJEM), 2011: [5] https://westjem.com/articles/excited-delirium.html "Excited delirium (EXD) is characterized by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting. It is typically associated with the use of drugs. Subjects typically die from cardiopulmonary arrest all accounts describe almost the exact same sequence of events: delirium with agitation (fear, panic, shouting, violence and hyperactivity), sudden cessation of struggle, respiratory arrest and death ."

It appears that an EXD episode began when the officers tried to get Floyd into the squad car. He resisted, citing "claustrophobia" -- the onset of the fear and panic phase, and "I can't breathe" -- difficulty breathing due to fentanyl locking into the breathing receptors in the brain. (Classic symptoms of EXD are highlighted in bold.) He then exhibited unexpected strength from the adrenaline spike in successfully resisting the efforts of four officers to get him into the car. We may never know whether Floyd's agitation was caused purely from the EXD adrenaline spike, or if it was aggravated by police attempts to subdue him -- but a subject defying the efforts of multiple officers to subdue him is a very common theme.

When Chauvin pulled him out of the car he fell to the ground, perhaps due to disorientation and reduced coordination. Presumably this was when he injured his mouth and his nose started to bleed, and the police made the first call for paramedics.

While restrained on the ground, Floyd exhibited agitation ( shouting and hyperactivity, trying to move back and forth) for several minutes. There is one brief video at this point. One hears Floyd shouting very loudly, as in the agitated delirium phase -- it sounds like, "My face is stoned ah hah, ah haaa, ah please people, please, please let me stand, please, ah hah, ah haaa!" [6] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-video-appea...17476/ . In a few minutes this was followed by " sudden cessation of struggle, respiratory arrest and death, " shown in a later video, where he becomes exhausted, and had stopped breathing when the ambulance arrived. [7] https://www.facebook.com/darnellareallprettymarie/vi...61280/

It appears that disorientation had already set in when the store employees went to Floyd's car and asked him to return the cigarettes he had bought for a fake $20 bill. He refused, and they reported the incident to the police, saying that he appeared to be very intoxicated. He certainly must have been, or he would have either returned the cigarettes or left quickly to avoid arrest. Loss of judgment is a symptom of the syndrome; this includes futile efforts to resist arrest.

Police Intervention and Intentions

The EXD diagnosis is controversial and in some quarters is viewed as an alibi for police brutality. The WJEM authors note, "Since the victims frequently die while being restrained or in the custody of law enforcement, there has been speculation over the years of police brutality being the underlying cause. However, it is important to note that the vast majority of deaths occur suddenly prior to capture, in the emergency department (ED), or unwitnessed at home."

Regarding restraint, they note, "people experiencing EXD are highly agitated, violent, and show signs of unexpected strength, so it is not surprising that most require physical restraint. The prone maximal restraint position (PMRP, also known as "hobble" or "hogtie"), where the person's ankles and wrists are bound together behind their back, has been used extensively by field personnel. In far fewer cases, persons have been tied to a hospital gurney or manually held prone with knee pressure on the back or neck."

This latter position is what the accused officer Chauvin was applying, although at one point the team did consider using a hobble. Physical restraint of the subject has always been the classical procedure, to prevent the subject harming themselves or others. It has been proposed that restraint helps to forestall injury and death by conserving the subject's energy, but most experts believe that by leading to an intense struggle, it increases the likelihood of a fatal outcome.

Since knowingly using counterfeit currency is a fairly serious offense, the Minneapolis officers were required to arrest Floyd and try to bring him in. When he violently resisted, the optimal choice could have been to let him sit against a wall and guard him while calling an ambulance. To be able to quickly switch from law enforcement mode to emergency care mode requires training in recognizing the symptoms.

The charge sheet against Chauvin included this exchange between the two white officers on the squad: [8] https://www.startribune.com/protests-build-anew-afte...869672 ""I am worried about excited delirium or whatever," Lane said. "That's why we have him on his stomach," Chauvin said."

According to this dialogue, Chauvin was apparently was trying to follow the protocol recommended by WJEM. Since Floyd was on his stomach, Chauvin's knee pinned him at the side of his neck, and did not impede breathing. Commentators are referring to Chauvin "kneeling" on Floyd's neck, or resting his weight on it. From videos it is hard to gauge how much weight he applied, but the correct procedure is just enough to restrain movement, not to crush the person.

Chauvin and his team might not have done everything perfectly, but it is easy to underestimate the difficulty of police work, particularly in cases of resisting arrest, whether willfully or due to intoxication. If they had been clairvoyant clinicians, they would have called an ambulance the moment they saw him. Better training is needed. Was the police department then responsible? Might the department have given the needed training if the AMA had acknowledged the existence of the syndrome? This brings up a paradox: could police critics who deny the syndrome then bear part of the responsibility for the deaths they decry? The syndrome is being recognized by law enforcement after the fact. It needs to be recognized as it is happening.

The American College of Emergency Physicians' White Paper Report on Excited Delirium Syndrome (ACEP, 2009) [9] https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/media/publications/a...09.pdf See also the decision by the Ninth Circuit Court, "[t]he problems posed by, and thus the tactics to be employed against, an unarmed, emotionally distraught individual who is creating a disturbance or resisting arrest are ordinarily different from those involved in law enforcement efforts to subdue an armed and dangerous criminal who has recently committed a serious offense." in "Explaining the Unexplainable: Excited Delirium Syndrome and Its Impact on the Objective Reasonableness Standard for Allegations of Excessive Force," https://scholarship.law.slu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?...ext=lj The first few pages relate a narrative similar to the Floyd case, involving multiple police subduing a violent EXD victim, who suddenly dies from exhaustion. A media uproar then arises against alleged police brutality. notes that "a law enforcement officer (LEO) is often present with a person suffering from ExDS because the situation at hand has degenerated to such a degree that someone has deemed it necessary to contact a person of authority to deal with it. LEOs are in the difficult and sometimes impossible position of having to recognize this as a medical emergency, attempting to control an irrational and physically resistive person, This already challenging situation has the potential for intense public scrutiny coupled with the expectation of a perfect outcome. Anything less creates a situation of potential public outrage. Unfortunately, this dangerous medical situation makes perfect outcomes difficult." In other words, officers need to be policemen, paramedics and public relations experts all at once.

With a fatal overdose there is no good outcome possible, but there is no way for police to foresee that. Sometimes EXD can last longer, and it is not always fatal. Perhaps the ACEP Task Force on EXD will update their report and provide guidelines to help police identify and deal with EXD while avoiding accusations of police brutality.

In one video [10] https://www.facebook.com/darnellareallprettymarie/vi...61280/ Chauvin continued to apply the neck restraint although bystanders repeatedly objected, and even after Floyd stopped moving. As Floyd became exhausted, it could have been reasonable to relax the restraint to see if it was really necessary. Chauvin didn't seem to respond to the bystanders to give a medical reason for the restraint. His actions were consistent with a belief that police should restrain the subject until medevacs arrive. Videos show the police focused on restraint, never beating or striking Floyd. The restraint and verbal exchanges with Floyd are also consistent with a belief that he was resisting arrest, by refusing to get in the squad car. When he said "I can't breathe," they responded "You're talking fine." When they said "Get in the car," he didn't agree to.

Subjects suffering from EXD usually resist arrest violently, which requires police to restrain them, but when police see signs of EXD, they also need to call an ambulance. It appears the police may have called for paramedics first when Floyd developed a nosebleed, then for an ambulance, which arrived after Floyd had stopped breathing. [11] From the incident report of the fire truck that was called to the scene, it appears that both police and bystanders called 911 for emergency medical services (EMS). The first call was Code 2, apparently for Floyd's nosebleed, which summoned a fire truck, followed by a more urgent code 3, which was said to bring an ambulance within six minutes. It appears the police called the ambulance when Floyd's breathing and heartbeat stopped. https://www.startribune.com/first-responders-worked-...06682/ "Floyd goes limp and appears to lose consciousness. Hennepin EMS then arrive six minutes after the distress call." The article refers to the incident report by the fire truck, http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/public/@mpd...80.pdf which has a note implying the first call to EMS was from police and another call came from bystanders: "No clear info on pt [patient] or location was given by either initial pd [police department] officers or bystanders." We need an incident report from the ambulance. .

Videos of EXD incidents generally show subjects violently resisting arrest, and requiring multiple officers to subdue them. There is one news clip about a police department that was trained to regard EXD as a medical and not a criminal issue, and avoid physical restraint as far as possible; the results are much better. [12] TV news clips showing police restraining subjects who are exhibiting EXD symptoms and violently resisting arrest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qCqjuqEWEc A TV news report and cellphone video on a more humane method of managing an EXD case, thanks to police training, putting safety of the subject and of bystanders first, rather than restraints. However, no details are given about the outcome or the drug dose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qCqjuqEWEc

EXD seems to be the most likely reason why Floyd suddenly refused to get into the squad car, and began to shout and writhe on the ground. With or without EXD or police intervention, he was going to die quickly from fentanyl, short of immediate intensive care. A common treatment for EXD is sedation with drugs like ketamine. The usual antidote for fentanyl is naloxone. Higher levels of fentanyl may require intravenous naloxone for 24 hours or more.

Fentanyl is so deadly because it acts so fast and binds so tightly to dopamine receptors in the brain -- even those that control breathing, unlike other narcotics. [13] https://columnhealth.com/blog_posts/why-is-fentanyl-...erous/ . Deaths from fentanyl have skyrocketed in the last seven years. In one incident in California, superlethal fentanyl doses of 53 ng/mL were successfully reversed with intravenous naloxone. However, some patients were dead on arrival. https://www.drugs.com/illicit/fentanyl.html When Floyd complained "I can't breathe," although he was breathing, [14] Wikipedia has a detailed narrative of the incident here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd . Certain notes there support the thesis of fentanyl intoxication, and resisting arrest as part of an EXD syndrome. Floyd struggled with Lane before leaving his own vehicle, and again when Kueng, then all four officers, tried to get him into the squad car. Floyd already complained he couldn't breathe before they tried to get him into the police car, without any neck restraint, indicating the onset of respiratory depression from fentanyl. https://abcnews.go.com/US/george-floyd-protest-updat...038665 "They all tried to force Floyd into the backseat, during which time Floyd said he could not breathe, according to the complaint."

He also fell down twice, which could be seen either as a sign of intoxication or resisting arrest. The officers knew it was a drug overdose, as Thao told bystanders, "This is why you don't do drugs, kids." By the way, this Wikipedia article should be named "Death of George Floyd," as an accused is innocent until proven guilty. and then completely stopped breathing, this was the onset of respiratory arrest, which is how a fentanyl overdose kills.

While police work is needed to trace the source of these dangerous drugs, the problems of drug addiction and crime have deep causes and can only be contained, not solved, by the police. Whatever our society has been doing about these problems is not working.

Right now, our civilization risks being torn apart by the passions of extremism, due to a misunderstanding. Please share this analysis, as an appeal to return to reason.

Reviewer comment: "My first thought is why it has been left to you to figure this out, when we pay professional journalists to investigate these things, and why aren't the police and politicians telling us about this."

A good question which gives a clue to something I've been wondering about. When other commentators publish within hours, why does it take me a week or two to finish an article like this? Journalists are usually under a deadline to produce stories quickly, whereas it takes a lot of research and reflection to develop an original thesis into a fair and coherent explanation of events.

Everyone tends to have an agenda, and to look for facts to support it. Police brutality or looters running amok may be more newsworthy than a chronic problem like drug abuse. The best agenda now is to take a break to focus on facts, or else an "Excited Delirium" could become a contagion that engulfs our nation.

Part II. The Death of Tony Timpa

A highly pertinent question: Has there ever been a confirmed death from a knee hold before? Not finding any data by searching the Net, I posted the question on Quora. [15] https://www.quora.com/Has-there-ever-been-any-previo...ics-or One answer soon came.

A young white man died in Dallas a few years ago, after being restrained by the police with the knee on his back. My respondent believed he suffocated, but the actual autopsy said cardiac arrest due to cocaine, overdose EXD, and stress from restraint by police officers.

Tony Timpa had not only taken an overdose of cocaine, plus he was off his anti-schizophrenia medicine. Mental illness can also be a trigger for EXD, and according to the autopsy report, he displayed all the classic symptoms. The first phase, fear and panic, was fear of the onset of delirium itself -- he himself called 911 for help. By the time the police arrived, security guards had already handcuffed him to restrain him. He was incoherent, out of control, found lying on the ground, the typical EXD position. The police pinned him down with a knee on his back for 13 minutes, saying he was at risk of rolling into the roadway, and suddenly he was dead.

Tony Timpa died in 2016. The family got the run-around, [16] https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/...timpa/ and an autopsy was not released until 2019. The body cam footage was released, which showed the police behaving callously towards the subject. The officers were originally charged with homicide, but it was found they were not at fault, charges were dropped and they were reinstated. Timpa's case is very similar to Floyd case in many ways, and there are also many differences -- the starkest of course being the intensity of the public reaction.

Here is the text of the Timpa autopsy. [17] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6226349-SWIF...515249

Case: ME Page 7 of8

Timpa, Anthony Alan

Based on the case history and autopsy findings, it is my opinion that Anthony Alan Timpa, a 32-year-old white male, died as a result of sudden cardiac death due to the toxic effects of cocaine and physiologic stress associated with physical restraint.

Cardiac hypertrophy and bipolar disorder contributed to his death.

The mechanism of death in cases such as this is sometimes referred to as "excited delirium." Classically, people affected by EDS are witnessed to exhibit erratic or aggressive behavior, and will often "throw off" attempts at restraint, requiring multiple people to subdue them. The person will appear to calm down and will suddenly become unresponsive. Most cases are associated with drug intoxication and/or illness.

In this case, several factors likely contributed to the death. The surveillance and body cam footage and witness reports fit the classic scenario of excited delirium and cocaine use and illness (bipolar disorder) are common predisposing risk factors for EDS. Cocaine leads to increased heart rate and increased blood pressure, making a cardiac arrhythmia more likely. Due to his prone position and physical restraint by an officer, an element of mechanical or positional asphyxia cannot be ruled out (although he was seen to be yelling and fighting for the majority ofthe restraint). His enlarged heart size also put him at risk for sudden cardiac death.

Although the decedent only had superficial injuries, the manner of death will be ruled a homicide, as the stress of being restrained and extreme physical exertion contributed to his demise.

MANNER OF DEATH: Homicide

[Signatures and seals of medical examiners]

(Note that homicide is not the same as murder, it also includes unintentional or accidental actions contributing to death.)

Anthony Timpa autopsy p. 5, blood tests -- Cocaine and metabolites

Cocaine, 0.647 mg/L

Ecgonine Methyl Ester, 0.378 mg/L

Benzoylecgonine, 0.843 mg/L

The lethal dose of cocaine ranges from around 0.1 mg/L to 0.6 mg/L, according to different sources [18] http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/science/toxicology/cocaine/ , https://academic.oup.com/jat/article/38/1/46/831276

If we add the three numbers above for cocaine and metabolytes together it comes to about 18 mg/L. This is anywhere from 3 to 18 times the lethal dose. With such an overdose, plus being without his schizophrenia medication, Timpa had little if any chance of surviving.

Here's the Wikipedia entry on Timpa, part of a series on the Dallas police.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Police_Department#Killing_of_Tony_Timpa

"Killing of Tony Timpa [edit]

On August 10, 2016, Dallas Police killed Tony Timpa, a 32-year-old resident who had not taken his medication. Timpa was already handcuffed while a group of officers pressed his body into the ground while he squirmed. It took over three years for footage of the incident to be released. The footage contradicted claims by Dallas Police that Timpa was aggressive Criminal charges against three officers were dropped in March 2019 and officers returned to active duty."

Wikipedia doesn't even mention cocaine, although that was the main cause of death. Likewise, the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd makes no mention of a drug overdose or excited delirium. By entitling the articles "Killing" rather than "Death," Wikipedians appoint themselves as a court of law.

It must be observed that the Minneapolis officers acted with far more consideration towards Floyd than the treatment Timpa received in Dallas. The way the officers made fun of Timpa was a scandal. [19] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/tony-timpa-dal...m.html Then they were surprised when he suddenly died.

It is strange that George Floyd's case is taken as proof of systemic racism, when Tony Timpa got much worse treatment -- even though Timpa hadn't committed any crime, had no police record, and even called 911 himself.

Isn't it odd, when we have a problem in the United States of many shootings by -- and of -- the police, that such an uproar has arisen, over a case where the police actually had little or nothing to do with the man's demise?

The stress of restraint is most likely incidental. As reported by the WJEM, "Victims who do not immediately come to police attention are often found dead in the bathroom surrounded by wet towels and/or clothing and empty ice trays, apparently succumbing during failed attempts to rapidly cool down." Hyperthermia or high body temperature is a classic symptom of EXD. Enormous energy is released by an uncontrolled adrenaline spike. The heat also feeds delirium, which is a familiar symptom of high fever.

Normally, it's assumed that stress factors contribute to a heart attack, as medical examiners wrote in both the Floyd and Timpa cases. Yet the WJEM notes that "one important study found that only 18 of 214 individuals identified as having EXD died while being restrained or taken into custody." All victims died of cardiopulmonary arrest. Drug overdose and EXD are sufficient causes for this outcome.

Both Floyd and Timpa had taken overdoses at triple the lethal level. Enough drugs to kill them three times over. Yet you can only die once so how could the stress of restraint contribute more to their deaths? You can't contribute to a glass that's already full three times over. That is a little like saying that someone died because their parachute didn't open, and the weight of their backpack also contributed to the fall. But they die from the fall once they hit the ground, whether it's at 120 mph or 122 mph.

It's true, that in this analogy, the extra weight makes the jumper hit the ground a little sooner. Forcibly restraining the victim can cause them to struggle and consume energy more quickly, accelerating the burnout. Giving the subject a little space and empathy could help calm them. In this case, restraint might reduce energy loss. If that delays cardiac arrest until an ambulance arrives, the patient might be saved. Victims are less likely to struggle when strapped to a gurney than when held down by police. [20] "Probably negligible involvement of position in contribution of death in cases of excited delirium, although allowing patients to breathe effectively is obviously important." https://emergencymedicinecases.com/episode-3-excited...irium/

We can compare Excited Delirium to an explosion or a wildfire, that rapidly consumes all the energy in the body. The police try to contain the explosion by restraining it, but can one blame the firefighter for the fire? The explosion continues until all the fuel is gone. Then life's flame flickers out, and the drug-intoxicated body can not be resuscitated. [21] "According to Dr. Assaad Sayah, Chief of Emergency Medicine at Cambridge Health Alliance, Excited Delirium Syndrome can be best explained as a 'physical response to an actual psychological [or drug] problem resulting in their autonomic systems producing too much adrenaline.' Dr. Sayah analogizes it to 'having too much nitrous in a car; eventually the engine will blow up.' In most cases, the cause of death is either 'a heart attack or, less frequently, respiratory failure.' Dr. Vincent Di Maio estimated that Excited Delirium Syndrome kills 800 people every year in police altercations because the victims "are just overexciting [their] heart from the drugs and from the struggle.'" Op. cit. https://scholarship.law.slu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?...ext=lj Presumably, the blood must be circulating in order for the antidote to neutralize the fentanyl.

In conclusion, excited delirium should be treated as a medical condition, at high risk of ending quickly in sudden death. An ambulance should be called immediately. Only the minimum necessary restraint should be applied. Police and paramedics should be trained in the symptoms and handling protocols.

It would be helpful if the AMA would recognize EXD as a real condition, rather than dismissing it as a cover story for police brutality. Ignorance of the symptoms can lead to unintentional cruelty by police, when they assume they are confronted by a typical case of a criminal violently resisting arrest, rather than a patient with a life-threatening intoxication.

Notes

[1] https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/authorities-just-released-george-floyds-complete-autopsy-report-read-it-here/ The full autopsy report was published here https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/Autopsy_2020-3700_Floyd.pdf Diagnoses are summarized on pp. 1 and 2: I. The "blunt force injuries" are basically minor cuts and bruises: "cutaneous" injuries and contusions from handcuffing. II. Chronic conditions: Heart disease, hypertension and enlarged heart. These all tend to accelerate death from a drug overdose. They can also develop from long-term drug abuse. III. No injuries to the front of the neck or throat were found. This full 76-page report does not contain the word "homicide."

[2] https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/02/02/fentanyl-overdose-dont-count-naloxone-save-you-10822 "The patients who were dead on arrival had gone into cardiac arrest due to blood concentrations of fentanyl that were much higher than what is administered therapeutically. " Patients who died in hospital had concentrations of 9.5 ng/mL to 13 ng/mL. See also note 13. In other studies of death from heroin and morphine, there were deaths from only 100 ng/ml of morphine and "all cases with a blood concentration of 200 ng/ml and more of free morphine displayed a fatal outcome." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11040428_Fatal_versus_non-fatal_heroin_overdose_Blood_morphine_concentrations_with_fatal_outcome_in_comparison_to_those_of_intoxicated_drivers (Heroin quickly metabolizes into morphine.) Fentanyl is considered 100 times more potent than morphine. By this comparison, Floyd's blood fentanyl concentration could have been 10 times the fatal level. In addition his morphine concentration of 86 ng/mL would usually be fatal by itself.
Concentration levels are relative to the volume of blood, so are independent of body size.

[3] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-findings-released-monday/5307185002/ A report commissioned by the Floyd family stated that asphyxiation from sustained pressure was consistent with the evidence, but the author Michael Baden didn't have access to all the evidence, and chose not to endorse his opinion with the "expert opinion" label.

[4] The knee on the neck is a body hold, not a chokehold or carotid restraint, which involves putting pressure precisely on both carotid arteries, located on either side of the throat. A carotid restraint is usually applied by an elbow, and causes the subject to pass out in as little as 15 seconds. Blocking the arteries does not stop the breathing or heartbeat (pulmonary or cardiac arrest), which Floyd suffered after being restrained for many minutes. Once pressure on the arteries is released, the subject normally regains consciousness quickly.

[5] https://westjem.com/articles/excited-delirium.html

[6] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-video-appears-show-george-floyd-ground-three-officers-n1217476/

[7] https://www.facebook.com/darnellareallprettymarie/videos/1425398217661280/

[8] https://www.startribune.com/protests-build-anew-after-fired-officer-charged-jailed/570869672

[9] https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/media/publications/acep_report_on_excited_delirium_syndrome_sept_2009.pdf See also the decision by the Ninth Circuit Court, "[t]he problems posed by, and thus the tactics to be employed against, an unarmed, emotionally distraught individual who is creating a disturbance or resisting arrest are ordinarily different from those involved in law enforcement efforts to subdue an armed and dangerous criminal who has recently committed a serious offense." in "Explaining the Unexplainable: Excited Delirium Syndrome and Its Impact on the Objective Reasonableness Standard for Allegations of Excessive Force," https://scholarship.law.slu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1379&context=lj The first few pages relate a narrative similar to the Floyd case, involving multiple police subduing a violent EXD victim, who suddenly dies from exhaustion. A media uproar then arises against alleged police brutality.

[10] https://www.facebook.com/darnellareallprettymarie/videos/1425398217661280/

[11] From the incident report of the fire truck that was called to the scene, it appears that both police and bystanders called 911 for emergency medical services (EMS). The first call was Code 2, apparently for Floyd's nosebleed, which summoned a fire truck, followed by a more urgent code 3, which was said to bring an ambulance within six minutes. It appears the police called the ambulance when Floyd's breathing and heartbeat stopped. https://www.startribune.com/first-responders-worked-nearly-an-hour-to-save-floyd-before-he-was-pronounced-dead/570806682/ "Floyd goes limp and appears to lose consciousness. Hennepin EMS then arrive six minutes after the distress call." The article refers to the incident report by the fire truck, http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/public/@mpd/documents/webcontent/wcmsp-224680.pdf which has a note implying the first call to EMS was from police and another call came from bystanders: "No clear info on pt [patient] or location was given by either initial pd [police department] officers or bystanders." We need an incident report from the ambulance.

[12] TV news clips showing police restraining subjects who are exhibiting EXD symptoms and violently resisting arrest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qCqjuqEWEc A TV news report and cellphone video on a more humane method of managing an EXD case, thanks to police training, putting safety of the subject and of bystanders first, rather than restraints. However, no details are given about the outcome or the drug dose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qCqjuqEWEc

[13] https://columnhealth.com/blog_posts/why-is-fentanyl-so-dangerous/ . Deaths from fentanyl have skyrocketed in the last seven years. In one incident in California, superlethal fentanyl doses of 53 ng/mL were successfully reversed with intravenous naloxone. However, some patients were dead on arrival. https://www.drugs.com/illicit/fentanyl.html

[14] Wikipedia has a detailed narrative of the incident here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd . Certain notes there support the thesis of fentanyl intoxication, and resisting arrest as part of an EXD syndrome. Floyd struggled with Lane before leaving his own vehicle, and again when Kueng, then all four officers, tried to get him into the squad car. Floyd already complained he couldn't breathe before they tried to get him into the police car, without any neck restraint, indicating the onset of respiratory depression from fentanyl. https://abcnews.go.com/US/george-floyd-protest-updates-arrests-america-approaching-10000/story?id=71038665 "They all tried to force Floyd into the backseat, during which time Floyd said he could not breathe, according to the complaint."

He also fell down twice, which could be seen either as a sign of intoxication or resisting arrest. The officers knew it was a drug overdose, as Thao told bystanders, "This is why you don't do drugs, kids." By the way, this Wikipedia article should be named "Death of George Floyd," as an accused is innocent until proven guilty.

[15] https://www.quora.com/Has-there-ever-been-any-previous-confirmed-record-of-death-resulting-from-a-knee-hold-before-the-Floyd-Chauvin-case-Good-question-for-experts-on-forensics-death-in-custody-data-internet-sleuths-police-medics-or

[16] https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/08/02/police-responded-to-his-911-call-for-help-he-died-what-happened-to-tony-timpa/

[17] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6226349-SWIFS-Investigative-Narrative.html#document/p7/a515249

[18] http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/science/toxicology/cocaine/ , https://academic.oup.com/jat/article/38/1/46/831276

[19] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/tony-timpa-dallas-police-body-cam.html

[20] "Probably negligible involvement of position in contribution of death in cases of excited delirium, although allowing patients to breathe effectively is obviously important." https://emergencymedicinecases.com/episode-3-excited-delirium/

[21] "According to Dr. Assaad Sayah, Chief of Emergency Medicine at Cambridge Health Alliance, Excited Delirium Syndrome can be best explained as a 'physical response to an actual psychological [or drug] problem resulting in their autonomic systems producing too much adrenaline.' Dr. Sayah analogizes it to 'having too much nitrous in a car; eventually the engine will blow up.' In most cases, the cause of death is either 'a heart attack or, less frequently, respiratory failure.' Dr. Vincent Di Maio estimated that Excited Delirium Syndrome kills 800 people every year in police altercations because the victims "are just overexciting [their] heart from the drugs and from the struggle.'" Op. cit. https://scholarship.law.slu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1379&context=lj


Anon [223] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:11 am GMT

I think more likely he died of a Covid-19 induced heart attack. Heart disease is the #1 comorbidity of Covid19. Doctors have talked about patients of Covid19 dying of sudden heart attacks at a high rate. Floyd was Covid19 positive, and he also had heart disease and hypertension, the top two comorbidity of Covid19.
R.C. , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:12 am GMT
That is over three times the lethal overdose, following earlier reports where the highest dose survived was 4.6 ng/mL.
Good points. And before this, all we ever heard about was how deadly fentanyl is. It killed Tom Petty and is so potent, it killed him via skin absorption! Now, however, the Back Flow Media (BFM) ;-), has agendas to push and truth ain't one of them.
Unfortunately, those who need to learn these facts have no interest in truth. Logic, reason, common sense, and all such things are thrown out; instead, the mob controls based upon who yells the loudest, not who makes the most fact-based sense.
SOL , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:38 am GMT
Excellent work. Unfortunately, the revolutionaries exploiting his death don't care about the truth.
obwandiyag , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:55 am GMT
People don't riot over the specific police murder that sets it off. They riot because they are sick and tired of the ways cops treat them–one of the ways being to murder them. If you don't like the Floyd murder, I got a couple thousand other cop murders for ya, and I would like to see you write such a stirring defense of cop-killed bodies riddled with hundreds of rounds of automatic weapons fire. Including all the dead white people.
Anonymous [456] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:11 am GMT
No denying that Floyd was a thug. Neither would any amount of denying alter the fact that he died at the hand – rather the knee – of a racist cop. Get over it, supremacists.
Cranberries , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:16 am GMT

This fentanyl concentration, including its norfentanyl metabolite at its molecular weight, was 20.6 ng/mL

Might help for someone to explain this calculation, since simply summing the fentanyl and norfentanyl concentrations gives 16.6, not 20.6.

anonymous1963 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:29 am GMT
It really does not matter. The Jewish mainstream media has tried and convicted the officers. They will never get a fair trial and are screwed. Saint George will have to be avenged or there will be more riots, arson and looting which the same degenerate media will call "protests".
Franz , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:30 am GMT
So they could have left him alone and he would have died anyway, another statistic.

It does imply intrusive policing invites unintended consequences. For the counterfeit $20, a summons would have been sufficient. Then George could have crawled off, go home to Jesus, and we could have been spared the phoniest and most overblown freak show since the Fall of Babylon.

Let them patrol their own 'hoods and be done with all this.

Hang All Text Drivers , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:45 am GMT
@R.C. """"the mob controls based upon who yells the loudest, not who makes the most fact-based sense."""

Wrong – Yelling loud does not matter. If you are anti-white the press is on your side no matter how softly you speak.

Wuok , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:54 am GMT
But why he didn't die before the police placed his knee on his neck?
Thulean Friend , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:54 am GMT
Fentanyl Floyd was a drug peddler and a petty criminal who got caught in the act of selling drugs by patrolling police. Panicking, he swallowed his own stash and overdosed as a result. Now he is being retconned into a saint.
Robert Dolan , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:05 am GMT
I suspect the F killed the man, but you will never convince the negroes, and the Jmedia will never reveal the truth anyway.
Gleimhart Mantooso , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:06 am GMT
At this point I think the universe is just trolling us for the fun of it.
Sean , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:10 am GMT
I think Floyd was being passive aggressive rather than resisting as such. What was done to him by Chaving was punishment out of frustration, but the duration was well outside normal practice.

Floyd already began to complain "I can't breathe" a few minutes before the neck restraint was applied,

That will be a dangerous argument for Chauvin's defence counsel to make to the court, because it will be opening the door to a telling counter argument: Floyd's breathing was restricted after he reported respiratory distress.

If it was a Fentanyl overdose they ought to have given him Narcan antidote, not put weight on his ribcage while he was face down and his hands cuffed behind him; a contributory cause according to the autopsy, which found wrist bruises.

Ficino , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:35 am GMT
@Anon There's no such thing as a heart attack induced by covid-19.
People who have been hospitalized for heart disease, and subsequently test positive for covid-19, don't usually die from the virus they die from their underlying heart disease condition.
Sparkylyle92 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:45 am GMT
I saw the video. Looked like just another hoax to me. Weight on his other knee, looking right at the camera while "killing" someone, yada yada. Officer Chauvin, fer Chrissake. Officer Racist would be too much even for stupid goyim. 8 minutes my ass. Aces and eights anyone? The point of this fentenyl dohicky is to pretend it really happened. Just another deep state psyop I say. But go ahead and argue about it. Makes it easier to steal 10 trillion from the US taxpayer.
Biff , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 7:01 am GMT
This guy is channeling Johnny Cochran. Yes, we know O.J. didn't do it either, because Nicole Brown was high on lethal amounts of cocaine, and Ron Goldman was mainlining deadly amounts of horse(heads almost fall off when this happens)

You see, the amount of imaginary fantasy is endless which feeds the inter-civilian war of people-against-people while the State remains blissfully secure knowing that those who control the media(narrative) will always win

Otherwise, yea, we get it, the police are always honest, justice is blind, your vote counts, your money is secure, god loves you, the vaccine is harmless, and your children are doing a great service by telling the government instructor(school teacher) that you smoke pot, so the state can seize everything you own.

ICANREAD , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 7:23 am GMT
Your underlying analysis is incorrect. People overdose at much higher levels and live through it. Maybe the cops should have been more interested in why he was presenting in an altered state and called an EMT, than carting him off to jail for a possible forged $20 bill.

See http://uthscsa.edu/ARTT/AddictionJC/2020-02-11-Sutter.pdf

The mean serum concentrations of fentanyl in their patients was (52.9 ng/mL) with a range of 7.9-162.3 ng/ml.

One of the 18 patients died in hospital. Five patients underwent cardiopulmonary resuscitation, one required extracorporeal life support, three required intubation, and two received bag-valve-mask ventilation. One patient had recurrence of toxicity after 8 hours after naloxone discontinuation. Seventeen of 18 patients required boluses of naloxone, and four required prolonged naloxone infusions (26–39 hours). All 18 patients tested positive for fentanyl in the serum. Quantitative assays conducted in 13 of the sera revealed fentanyl concentrations of 7.9 to 162 ng/mL (mean = 52.9 ng/mL).

goldgettin , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 8:18 am GMT
The author starts one paragraph with "in conclusion", LOL again LOL
Once again missing the point,intentionally,misdirecting. It's a FALSE FLAG

Street theater duh, set up Fromthestart. Plandemic.Seriously,it creates jobs.
Liars oops I mean lawyers,oops I mean poly ticks,locally,nationally,
all the way to the jewdicial branch and congress and beyond.GET REAL.

It's far worse than that.An elder told me they don't believe in IQ.

The facts and investigations and evidence don't do nuffin after the incurred LOSS

of SO much time,money,energy,community,productivity,confidence,SANITY etc.

THIS is COUP and" it's no where near in conclusion." that's my comment,thanks
peace,love, life

RouterAl , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 8:29 am GMT
Excellent article which should be on the front page of every major paper in the USA. The part on the Excited Delirium Syndrome is new to me but it's interesting .It illustrates nicely this civil disorder has nothing to do with Mr Floyd. I just hope officer Chauvins defence team makes good use of this information.
As a retired pharmacist I'm surprised by the use of fentanyl as a drug of abuse. The therapeutic dose banding is very small, its very potent , it is a very short acting drug and it's a drug that only an anaesthetist should consider using or abusing. Its a very potent respiratory depressant that has a nasty habit of producing a delayed action hours after the affect has apparently worn off. Fentanyl also causes heart slowing and any anaesthetist would give other drugs to counter that effect to keep the patient under control.

Now lets look at the photo of other officers using the correct Israeli defence force pin down

Notice that the knee and leg not doing the pinning is not on the ground therefore all the weight of the body is brought to bear on the victims neck and the major blood vessels under the knee. Now look at officer Caulvin his right boot toe is on the ground along with his right knee. Try it yourselves on a pillow, you cannot bring any force to bear , at best you are holding someone with that pose. He also looks under no stress from Mr Floyd with his hold. At 5′ 8" I would be using the IDF method if I had to restrain Mr Floyd, but lets be honest I would avoid him full stop. There is also the fun part of trying to hit and subdue someone who thanks the the Fentanyl in his system would feel little pain.
This whole thing looks very suspicious to me , and the speed with which the thing went global even more suspicious. The speed that people appeared with expensive t-shirts and hoodies all bearing
"I cannot breath" printed on the front in many locations simultaneously along with the piles of bricks and attacks on statues has a pre-planned Soros and Antifa agenda all over it.

Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist , says: Website Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 8:38 am GMT
I'm sure that the author of this article, who I assume isn't a drug addict, will be totally fine if a racist white thug in uniform with a history of murdering people knelt on his neck for nine minutes with its hands in its pockets. Yes, it was the drugs all along!
anon [161] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 8:41 am GMT

His ability to resist four officers trying to get him into the squad car is typical of EXD cases.

When did this happen, exactly? The security cam video show that two [2] officers succeeded to get Floyd into the back seat of the cruiser. Then, one officer pulled him out on the other side.

I've read plenty about ExD, and believe that Chauvin will make a successful defense. Your '4 men failed' spared me reading this long slog.

vot tak , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 8:55 am GMT
Gotta protect those israeli occupation troops at all costs and keep their colonial police state (that's the usa, neanderthals) a colonial police state. Should those dumb goy animals unite and force our quislings out, who knows what might befall our "sacred homeland".
animalogic , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 9:24 am GMT
Did drugs kill George Floyd ? Does it matter ?
This affair is one of public perception.
The perception IS that Chauvin used excessive force. The guy died after that "force" whether excessive or not. People, rightly or wrongly see cause & effect.
As for your points about overdose ? Fairly weak. Every minute that passes the likelihood of overdose decreases. Overdoses don't hide in your system for 20 minutes (excluding digestion or assimilation) & then jump out & shut down your heart.
Floyd may have appeared intoxicated, but he also appeared functional for a "normal" unstressful setting.
He sat down, handcuffed, against a wall for some minutes without "losing it".
Also interesting -- they had him in the police car -- then dragged him out for lack of compliance. Why ? Let him sit in the locked, secure police back seat, So he screams & makes a fuss ? Arrestees are known to do that. But no, they drag him out (still handcuffed) & THREE of them get on top of him: one on legs, one on the torso, & one on his neck. And stay that way for nearly 9 minutes. And its not like they don't know he's physically problematic -- they call the EMS early on.
Now lets imagine that you have a problem with your heart or breathing (he tells them numerous times about his breathing, not necessarily entirely from physical airway blockage, but from panic -- psychology rendering the act of breathing difficult )– would being pinned to the road by 3 burly men, one of them exerting some pressure on your neck not cause some degree of panic ? Could some people be near to literally shitting themselves from panic ? Would such fear & panic not be contraindicated in a man for whom you have already called the EMS ?
Funny thing, was I a police man I would have asked Floyd to sit in his car (yes, take his keys & guard him) while I had a look at this so-called counterfeit bill. I mean, that's the point isn't it ? this whole abortion rests on passing a dodgy $ 20. (Knowingly passing: I wonder how many shonky US bills there are out there millions ?).
So Floyd is probably a scumbag -- so ? The whole affair looks appalling. And that really IS the point here.
Anonymous [178] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 9:26 am GMT
"Systemic racism" is simply POC and non-European descended Whites saying that they cannot live in Western (or, indeed, industrial) society,
The POC are correct in this. Who, after all, is qualified to tell them that they are wrong? George Floyd was destroyed by "systemic racism" in the above sense. Even East Asians and South Asians with high enough IQ and sufficient emotional control to live in Western (industrial) society strongly condemn the lack of organization in such societies, and the absence of the protective social organizations (caste, a directive government/social organization) that are characteristic of their homelands. Middle Eastern Whites condemn the absence of the tribal / honor / religious system that characterizes their countries of origin.
POC and non-European descended Whites want Western ( industrial) society changed or destroyed for their benefit.
This is a serious and irresolvable conflict of interest, for the European descended Whites are just as unable to live in the home societies of various POC and non-European descended White groups as these groups are unable to live in Western (industrial) society.

Note that the above irresolvable conflict of interest is not ever discussed directly. This is characteristic of major irresolvable conflicts of interest. WW II is a good example of this (see the American Pravda articles, unz.com , for support of this assertion). All of the participants (except possibly Hitler, who apparently wanted a European Empire allied to the British Empire) thought it was "them or us" (hence the "unconditional surrender" demands from the Allies), and thus had strong reasons for fighting. These reasons were not used in propaganda by any side. Propaganda based on self interest of the "only one Empire will survive" type makes poor propaganda. So does propaganda based on what amounts to a multi-sided volkwandering ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswanderung ), which is what we seem to be entering into.

Good propaganda is smoke -- mythic appeals, but to a non-applicable myth, with irrelevant "proof". George Floyd is an example of how this is supposed to work.

The interesting thing about this situation is that it is the OC and non-European descended Whites are the ones insisting that they cannot live in the West / industrial civilization. Granted that the Left wing of the Democratic Party is the proximate cause of the current offensive, attempted Antifa leadership of the offensive has been largely repudiated or simply ignored by the various POC. Understanding the basics of this situation requires that the objections of the POC and non-European descended Whites be taken seriously and understood, as I have tried to do above.

gotmituns , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 9:34 am GMT
Doesn't matter what theniggerdied of. They're going to get the White guy no matter what.
Jud Jackson , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 9:49 am GMT
Fantastic Article!! I just hope the cop is acquitted.
Emily , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:03 am GMT
@Sean If it was a Fentanyl overdose they ought to have given him Narcan antidote,

Are you serious?
These cops meant to make an instant medical diagnosis.
Decide the problem and drug involved.
Produce an antidote.
And administer it.
What planet are you on?
And had they administered the wrong drug .?
They would be crucified as well.
Its hard to believe you can really believe that comment yourself.
Its sheer prejudice and blah for BLM.
And a grossly unfair accusation.

Moi , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:08 am GMT
@anonymous1963 Three points:

*Since the MSM and many of our leaders are in sync with BLM, we should just turn the country over to them since they've done a great job within their own "neighborhoods."

*It's pretty useless to say the MSM loves BLM. The MSM does what the folks who control/own it tell it to do.

*Per BLM's demand, cops should stop patrolling black neighborhoods and instead boost patrolling non-black neighborhoods to reduce crime there.

Anon4578 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:08 am GMT
Police were not arresting him for the counterfeit bill. If you pass a counterfeit bill you are interviewed by police so they can attempt to trace its origin.

Where did you get cash?

Where do you cash your checks?

Did you get this as change for a larger bill? Where?

He was detained because when they came up to him in the car he was obviously intoxicated and behind the wheel. Also rewatch the security tape and see the cop talks to him for 2 minutes and at one point is so worried by whatever Floyd was doing he unholstered his gun but didn't point it. Floyd also had no ID on him.

So it's a cascade of events that lead to his arrest. Police can't ID an intoxicated person behind the wheel of a car. Try to get him out of the car and he immediately starts resisting.

onebornfree , says: Website Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:15 am GMT
@Sparkylyle92 " I saw the video. Looked like just another hoax to me"

Here's an excellent analysis of 3 of the alleged live, completely contradictory videos on this alleged event, which quite clearly show it to be hoax perpetrated via crisis actors, fake police and EMT's. :


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/OItT0WD55x0w/

Regards, onebornfree

steve K. , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:15 am GMT
@Anonymous And what evidence do you have that Chauvin was racist? Is it because all white people are racist?
padre , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:33 am GMT
What's the difference, does it mean that police should continue with their practice, till they choke a healthy person?
Rich , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:45 am GMT
@Anonymous I'm curious about this "racist cop" trope that's become pretty common. Is it common for "racists" to be married to someone of another race as Chauvin is? I'd think a "racist" would favor a spouse of their own race, no? Seems to me, to you crazies on the left, Pale skin makes a person a "racist ". It's become a truth in America that the only definition of "racist" is White. The word is, therefore, meaningless. Floyd died because of his drug use and criminal activity. Not a knee on the back of his neck.
Moi , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:45 am GMT
@SOL I second that. Problem is there is no satisfying the BLM folks. They are suffering from PTSD because of our history of slavery. This is sort of like vets who have PTSD, but the key difference being vets actually participated in a war whereas no black living was a part of our history of slavery.

The solution is for the BLM and lgbtqi folks to join forces and put forth a black tranny candidate to solve all our problems.

journey80 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:57 am GMT
Why should we believe the "report"? why not believe our lying eyes? Who released this "report"? Where is an independent verification? I'll wait, thanks, for a report that has been released by an independent source that is confirmed by the family.
anon [392] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 10:58 am GMT
The ADL is the rabid hate group and a threat to society.
Contraviews , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:19 am GMT
If this is the case, if it is true the officers should have a very strong defence in court.
Emslander , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:25 am GMT

I'm sure that the author of this article, who I assume isn't a drug addict, will be totally fine if a racist white thug in uniform with a history of murdering people knelt on his neck for nine minutes with its hands in its pockets. Yes, it was the drugs all along!

When I see a comment like this on an article as closely reasoned and supported as this one, I wonder whether public schools teach the ability to read.

You can check my previous posts and see that these are precisely the points I made from a very casual glance at the autopsy report and a little knowledge of police motivations. That was right after the incident occurred. Videos and photos are very poor evidence because they only raise emotional response.

Thank you, Ron Unz, for being brave enough to publish this article.

anon [392] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:31 am GMT
@onebornfree ..hall of fame vs their sandy hoax
EliteCommInc. , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:40 am GMT
laughing.

I guess the defense is entitled to a defense. I guess that is the benefit of having two coroner's reports. The skill and advocacy of the police unions to manufacture alternative theories and creates smoke as defense is light years ahead of antifa, BLM or the KKKK.

Te problem with the the current system is not dug induced males sitting on their cars o falling asleep in drive thrus or jogging in around empty construction sites or waiting for tow trucks, or selling cigarettes, or avoiding creepy guys stalking the in apartment complexes, or sleeping in their beds or or walking with some white women --

It's the loss of credibility. The police unions can have the officers walk out as they ave routinely done as a means of black mail holding cities hostage, but at the end of the day, what technology is doing is unavailing a side of Wyatt Earp the public would rather not see even if they know what's up. It's the system in a manner of exposure unlike it's even been used to. It's the collapse of the arguments for invading countries that are not a threat. It's the collapse of the internal dialogues among the agencies in multiple arenas of government force. It's Ruby Ridge, It's Waco, It's Baltimore, It's Fergusaon. It's Oakland. It's Baton Rouge. It's New Jersey. It's . . . It's balloting were the 1 per-center is suddenly number one,. Utter nonsense such as written in the Fergason Report. It's nonsense such as the Ferguson Effect.It's a news system, that is serious doubt. It's bail out for WS, repeatedly and then throwing the payees f bail out out of works. It is stagnant wages. It's hiring and executive to make a serious shift ad the best he could do hire ore part time citizens and embrace more immigrants.

It's the system saying it's not the system. It;s loosening up credit for businesses and the rules for consumers tighter. It's watching something on film as it happens and then being told what you saw is not what happened.

It's the unmasking of tactics used by the system to shield itself from accountability. And perhaps worst of all, we believing what the system tells us because believing reality is just to tough a road to to travel. It is the system saying . . . it's not the system.

-- -- --

uhh No. I didn't believe there was a reason to invade Ira or Afghanistan or any of the subsequent intentions by the former Vietnam protester "we lost Vietnam" crowd as I am that Mr. Floyd died from a drug overdoese.

And none of the smoke and mirrors: that Pres Hussein was a bad person, that the Taliban were in on 9/11, that the family occupying Ruby Ridge were Nazis, Mr. Koresh was a demon, there's a Fergason Effect, that blacks are just bad innately and whites are angelic beings along with browns and yellows worthy of pass, or that IQ is destined by some unique, unknown and unseen genetic code, that the Russians sabotaged US elections, . . . or US lost Vietnam (no it did not). If I start buying onto the nonsense spouted as truth to escape accountability before you know it, I will start advocating that slaves were just immigrants coming the continent for better jobs and life.

And cows rally do jump over the moon.

Fred777 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:44 am GMT
@Moi BLM having PTSD over slavery would be like an Air Force veteran who served in the 1990s having PTSD over hitting Omaha Beach in the first wave.
Wizard of Oz , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:46 am GMT
@Sean Apart from Emily's point I note that you state that Chauvin constricted Floyd's breathing without evidence despite it not being accepted by the author of the article.
Z-man , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:47 am GMT
This proves, the sainthood of a very simian looking convicted criminal doped up coon, that you can fool some of the people all of the time. The Jooz are laughing all the way to the ban total control of the World.
Jim Bob Lassiter , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:47 am GMT
@obwandiyag Well let's have 'em (couple of thousand cop murders) . And don't forget to include Ruby Ridge and Waco, Texas.
Sick of Orcs , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:48 am GMT
Segregation worked. Hard to believe it's just sitting on the shelf, unused.

Access to Whites is not a right.

Jim Bob Lassiter , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:51 am GMT
@Anon4578 A passer of counterfeit bills is typically given an opportunity by the cheated merchant to make him whole before the cops are called. Saint George, for whatever reasons, didn't avail himself of the opportunity extended to him to do just that.
Jim Bob Lassiter , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:54 am GMT
@Wuok He prolly would have had they just left him alone. Then they'd be in jail for failure to render first aid. The rioting would have still happened. Heads or tails, you lose with niggers.
gotmituns , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 11:59 am GMT
@Rich Chauvin was probably a screaming liberal until he got involved with the chink. The thing about chinks is they're known to hate everyone equally who isn't a chink.
Steve in Greensboro , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:12 pm GMT
@Anonymous Did you read the article? Seems pretty convincing to me.
Felix Krull , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:21 pm GMT
It is strange that George Floyd's case is taken as proof of systemic racism, when Tony Timpa got much worse treatment -- even though Timpa hadn't committed any crime, had no police record, and even called 911 himself.

That is not strange. The reason BLM choose cases where the policeman only did their job is because otherwise, they'll risk seeing the policeman go to jail, and then there'd be no systemic racism to rail against. Only when you are sure the policeman will be exonerated in a court of law, can you rile the animals without risking the party coming to an end before the music even starts.

Redman , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:26 pm GMT
@Anonymous And proof of that racism would be what exactly?
DanFromCT , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:28 pm GMT
@RouterAl For the time being, an educated comment like yours gets a hearing, in contrast to the unreasoned moral posturing of so many others here. For so long as they can hide behind "good intentions," they can run from inconvenient facts. UR recently featured an article and comments on Dietrich Doerner's Logic of Failure , which says it best about these disgusting phonies who'd never dream of reexamining their positions based on the horrors they cause.

"In our political environment, it would seem, we are surrounded on all sides with good intentions. But the nurturing of good intentions is an utterly undemanding mental exercise, while drafting plans to realize those worthy goals is another matter. Moreover, it is far from clear whether "good intentions plus stupidity" or "evil intentions plus intelligence" have wrought more harm in the world. People with good intentions usually have few qualms about pursuing their goals. As a result, incompetence that would otherwise have remained harmless often becomes dangerous, especially as incompetent people with good intentions rarely suffer the qualms of conscience that sometimes inhibit the doings of competent people with bad intentions. The conviction that our intentions are unquestionably good may sanctify the most questionable means.

Excerpt From
The Logic Of Failure: Recognizing And Avoiding Error In Complex Situations
Dietrich Dorner
This material may be protected by copyright.

Redman , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:28 pm GMT
@Thulean Friend What exactly did happen to the white substance that clearly fell out of his left pocket while against the wall? Odd nobody mentions that.
wlindsaywheeler , says: Website Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:31 pm GMT
George killed himself. He took a lethal overdose of Fentanyl. The meth and the fentanyl combined cause delirium and heart problems. These two drugs caused what is called "Excited Delirium Syndrome" which is usually fatal.

https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2263095/

http://www.progressivepress.com/blog-entry/death-rides-fast-horse-black-life-shattered-dope

When the officers pulled him out of the Mercedes–he was already foaming at the mouth. These four officers need to be released and given their jobs back. Their arrests are just a lynch mob by the liberal establishment. George killed George. He gambled with his life, put himself in that position with allegedly passing counterfeit money. Furthermore, George was DWI; he was sitting in the drivers seat. Even though you are not driving, sitting in the driver's seat is DWI, Driving while impaired. Who needs to be arrested is the Drug Dealer that sold him the Fentanyl.

Moreover, Excited Delirium syndrome causes "Wooden Chest". That is what George was experiencing, His drug cocktail killed him.

annamaria , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:44 pm GMT
@R.C. Reality check for the "revolutionaries:"
https://www.hannenabintuherland.com/europa/whites-were-slaves-in-north-africa-before-blacks-were-slaves-new-world

1 million to 1.25 million Europeans were enslaved in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th, by slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone (these numbers do not include the European people who were enslaved by Morocco and by other raiders and traders of the Mediterranean Sea coast)

"From bases on the Barbary coast, North Africa, the Barbary pirates raided ships traveling through the Mediterranean and along the northern and western coasts of Africa, plundering their cargo and enslaving the people they captured."

From at least 1500, the pirates also conducted raids along seaside towns of Italy, Spain, France, England, the Netherlands and as far away as Iceland, capturing men, women and children.

On some occasions, settlements such as Baltimore, Ireland were abandoned following the raid, only being resettled many years later. Between 1609 and 1616, England alone had 466 merchant ships lost to Barbary pirates.

annamaria , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:49 pm GMT
@Anonymous Are you sure that you are not a racist or a progeny of racists?

As Confederate statues are torn down in the USA, one wonders: Are we going to ask Egypt to change its name, tear down its pyramids which were built by slaves too? And destroy mummies of pharaohs that had slaves?

Are the black tribes of Africa, the ones who sold the slaves they took from other tribes when at war and sold to the Arab slave traders, are we going to change the names of those African tribes too? And tear down the names of their leaders?

No comments? Here is more:

Regarding white slaves in Africa and black slaves in the New World, it is often overlooked that slaves were enslaved before they were bought and sold by Jews, Arabs, and Gentiles. The unasked question is: Who enslaved them?

Things that used to be true before political correctness set in: More whites were brought as slaves to North Africa than blacks brought as slaves to the United States.

https://www.hannenabintuherland.com/europa/whites-were-slaves-in-north-africa-before-blacks-were-slaves-new-world/

VinnyVette , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 12:49 pm GMT
All this obsessing over what pretty boy George died of is irrelevant. Cops putting their knee on the neck, the most vulnerable part of the human body is wrong period! No sympathy for the thug, he was a menace to society. What should be obsessed over is police culture has not been to "protect and serve" since at least the 70's. They see themselves as "at war" with the whole of society, from the suburban soccer mom to the ghetto thug.
It's widely known cops will take a routine traffic stop, and poke and prod at the driver to try to rile them up and get the person to react and give the cop an attitude to escalate the interaction into an altercation. In the suburbs, quiet rural areas it matters not. Race matters not. They'll pull this shit in the most docile neighborhoods, with the most docile of people, regardless of color.
I'm neither pro cop or anti cop, I see them as a necessary evil. They'd be a hell of alot less evil if reforms were made in their attitude toward the public at large, and if they were held accountable for all their various abuses of power. They also need their privileged status as some sort of exalted special class "above the public" obliterated! Cops on the whole are some of the most corrupt, anti social, sadistic people in society. I know many of them personally, both city and suburban.
As much as I dislike the rioting, looting, arson and chaos, I'm enjoying the karmic retribution the boys in blue in receiving.
JQ , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT
@obwandiyag It could also be that a certain race is a bit more prone to get into drugs, crime, prostitution,
and so on. And truth to be told hard work is not in their DNA. As long as you keep
denying FACTS this will never end.

Canada has to bring thousands of Mexicans and Guatemalans to work on the farm fields,
while half of this people are on welfare, and when they do work they only want easy jobs,
bus drivers, taxi drivers, or for the governments where most of the time they just don't perform
as well. In the mean time people like me are being taxed close to 60% to pay for all these social programs which only benefits the laziest

Biff , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:06 pm GMT
@Rich

Is it common for "racists" to be married to someone of another race as Chauvin is?

Yes.

File that one under "dumb question" ..

171 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:07 pm GMT
Since when gross injustice against a once subdued person legitimate anti-humanity? That is how, to a naive person consumes daily propaganda by the usa government and their presstitute which reflect an appearance of "good america" while genuinely reflecting a clandestine disdain for what is right or such unjustified violence cloaked under the line of duty against the general population would not be so common in the touted "land of the free." The magnet (of the peaceful protesters from australia, to europe and latin america) is not to a "good free land of jewmerica" but to the missing and lack of legitimate Justice parroted along with the moral compass touted by the usa government and their law enforcement while the true reality of irrectitude makes itself apparent in videos such as the one of George floyd's unjustified assassination/murder, where unjustified violence is evident. Thus, with these uncensored videos by the peaceful population or general public of the usa, the truth did not remain hidden by manipulated narratives of the jew-owned presstitute and media in favor of the cia/usa government flavor of their wicked ideology preference while cloaked in sheep's clothing.

In conclusion, When an individual poses a serious threat to an officer or another individual, according to the National Institute of Justice, the "peace-officer" (as they are glorifyingly touted) is generally authorized by law to use lethal weapons (i.e., firearms) to protect himself or herself or others by stopping the individual's actions. You don't want to realize that there is IRREFUTABLY no serious threat nor danger to life once a person (of any color in handcuffs as the estate of George Floyd was and many others) is subdued. And, those marching (or rather peacefully protesting to show solidarity) in many other foreign nation states display how morally magnetic is the actual legitimate axiom of the interest of justice because that no democracy can exist unless each of its citizens is as capable of outrage at injustice to another as he is of outrage at unjustice to himself.

ploni almoni , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:16 pm GMT
Calling all trolls: discuss this as if it were a real event to demoralize and confuse the public and prevent them from acting.
follyofwar , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT
@Jud Jackson Could the authorities risk an acquittal? Or might Chauvin suffer the same fate as Epstein?
Truth3 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:32 pm GMT
Truth no longer matters to

Negroes.

Faggots.

Trannies.

Women.

Democrats.

It never mattered to Jews. Falsehood and Sophistry is their weapon of choice.

Tazer 2.0 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:34 pm GMT
I don't care so much for the cops since they would put you in a cage with these animals for thought crimes like posing the JQ and denying the Holycaust without any hesitation at all. They are paid mercs and sometimes they get burned. Similarly the light property damage incurred by corporate storefronts and reduction in quality of life for liberal urban dwellers is not at all a concern for me, and I honestly hope this goes on in perpetuity until the statistical reality of black crime is literally beaten into their skulls. As for George Floyd he will no longer be producing any more of his ilk. He was set to marry a lower class white woman and open an establishment eponymously named the Konvict Kitchen, all in defiance of the principles of nuptiality and common decency. The former enhances black criminality by combining pathological white genes from the classes which in Europe would have their breeding restricted by cultural and economic constraints but are allowed to flourish here generating trailer parks and white trash that with miscegenation and negrification are as much of a danger to society as the the African type they complement.

In any case having seen the footage from these events it strikes me that these cops are themselves very unintelligent. In the case of the Atlanta negro aptly named Rayshard they were inclined to play junior detective and gameshow host for upwards of 30 minutes when it was obvious that they should have immediately incapacitated the feral groid and dragged him away from a motor vehicle capable of causing far more damage than the plastic dart guns they ended up wrestling over. Instead they allowed the monkey to shuck and jive for what seemed like an hour repeating the same inane phrases over and over again. I would have been inclined to dump a mag in the baboon at the 2 minute mark. These two men were themselves products of negrification and no doubt they likened the ill-fated negro to their favorite afleets and sports stars they worship on TV, giving him chance after chance to behave like a human being with around a standard deviation more aptitude than they should have given him credit for. If they had a choice between the ineffective Taser device and a firearm they ended up using it would have gone better.

I think this country is screwed in the long run and I just hope it ends in fireworks. The long and inexorable drag into stupidity is maddening.

anon [427] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:41 pm GMT
I doubt anyone cares what he died from, they can just go "change" their signs to some guy in Georgia. They all look like hoaxes but they needed something for "change" to happen. Back to online petitions and countless fake hoaxes and more toppling anything whuhhh, and more historical revision to erase whuhhhh, can't even spell it anymore.
Who called the police on the martyrs? Why would a black person call the police on a black man asleep in the line at Wendy's in Georgia, when they could have just drove around him. Why have the white police bother him? It all just looks like more lefty "change" helped out by the good folks at Netflix or something.
JimDandy , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:41 pm GMT
@obwandiyag Yet they always seem to pick a loser. Funny, eh?

And how dare you bring WHITE victims into this?!!! This is about BLACK victims and WHITE oppressors. GOT IT?!

backup , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:43 pm GMT
He also had sickle cell anemia. The coronary report mention a lot of "sickled" cells, but only postmortem. It is knows that sufferers of SCD show that kind of pattern: Death induces it. However, George Floyd was also COVID19 positive, and there are signs that COVID19 decreases Hemoglobin levels:

Primate models of Covid-19 (Munster 2020) and human Covid-19 patients have subnormal haemoglobin levels (Chen 2020). Clinical evaluationof almost 100 Wuhan patients reveals haemoglobin levels below the normal range in most patients as well as increased total bilirubin and elevated serum ferritin (Chen 2020). Hyperbilirubinemia is observed in acute porphyria (Sassa 2006) and would be consistent with ineffective erythropoiesis (Sulovska 2016) and rapid haemoglobin turnover.

https://osf.io/4wkfy/download/?format=pdf&usg=AOvVaw2aUKMUoT-E7lUm0WvwqQaj

People with SCD can suffer from other viruses causing anemia, without showing sickled cells:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle_cell_disease#Aplastic_crisis

Anonymous [208] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:43 pm GMT
@ICANREAD They did call the EMTs. That's what they were waiting for. Maybe you shouldn't try to analyze the situation until after you learn what the situation involved?
JimDandy , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT
@Wuok He was dying before he even left the car. He collapsed when they pulled him out of it. He collapsed after they helped him walk to the wall. He was complaining that he couldn't breathe before he had a knee on his neck. My sense was that when he saw the cops were coming for him, he swallowed his drugs. Pretty common.
Anon [375] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:52 pm GMT
@obwandiyag I basically agree.

This was also about the McMichael shooting. And the entire Trump presidency.

JimDandy , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 1:59 pm GMT
@EliteCommInc. And criminals who break into pregnant women's houses and jam guns into their pregnant guts really do get their just deserts when they hastily swallow all the drugs they were dealing to avoid going back to the joint.
EliteCommInc. , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:00 pm GMT
"It is strange that George Floyd's case is taken as proof of systemic racism, when Tony Timpa got much worse treatment -- even though Timpa hadn't committed any crime, had no police record, and even called 911 himself."

It would b strange if what you said was accurate.
enforcement, It is not singular artifact.

I is not any singular death, not even a group of deaths that are rare at the hands of police. It's the ten million plus arrests misdemeanors primarily that end with violence against unarmed citizens that are disproportionately used with respect to african americans it's the related history. It is the sentencing. It is the pea bargain system . . .

It's the crack vs regular cacaine narratives nonsense, it is the rhetorical dialogue -- it is not one single thing, but a compendium of constructs across the country over time.

Anon [375] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:01 pm GMT
@Anon It seems more likely that the heart attack came because the heart was overworked due to low blood-oxygen levels due to the sedated breathing from the opioid.
Sokrates , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:01 pm GMT
@animalogic Are you member of BLM?
Go tell these crap to a decent jury
chuckywiz , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:05 pm GMT
Such analysis is diversion from the main discussion. It does not matter if Floyd was on drugs or a criminal. Why was he treated brutally by the police. Too much power given to the law enforcement. And the bad apples always take advantage of it. Observe the way they walk. No sign of humility or being a servant of society or a protector.
Race riots yes. but so many whites and no African Americans are rioting, too. It is economic disparity and hopelessness, stupid, and that is what the pundits are avoiding purposely.
Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:13 pm GMT
Brilliant presentation.
I was arrested one time and was put into car. Interestingly enough I had difficulty breathing and I did not have any drugs in me.
I did ask officer to open window in the car but he did not. He did not care.
tradecraft46 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:18 pm GMT
Who cares, nits make lice .
Juckett , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT
@SOL Exactly. They would not even spend the time to read this excellent example of actual journalism.
Their hatred blinds them to all facts.
Talking time is over. Balkanize the failed multi-cultural experiment. Ethnostate is NEEDED.
Separate from Hate.
Emily , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:25 pm GMT
Anyone else getting rather peed off by the huge donations to BLM, apparently about to flow in – as reparations for the proceeds from slavery by Briitish firms.
Seems to me these companies should be starting at home.
What about the proceeds from mills and factories here in England where the labour was little more than slavery.
Forced on the poor for pathetic and utterly meagre wages – amounting to slavery – as the option to the 'poor house'.
Children of seven working 12 hours a day for pennies.
Many dying and crippled by the machinery under which they had to scrabble.
I am sure there are millions – not least up north – who would very much like some recognition for the quite awful exploitation of their forebears.
Oops – sorry – they all have white faces and are not prepared to commit mayhem, arson and criminal damage to support any claim.
Time, maybe to start, it works.
Maybe we less than aristocratic English people should start a few demands in payment for the terrible conditions of the industrial 'revolution', for the Victorian slums, more appalling than black Americans ever endured.
You don't see the black Americans sporting rickets, TB, suffering starvation, diptheria and smallpox to mention a few.
Or kids forced up chimneys.
I wonder how Dickens would be feeling today – at Lloyds etc.
Disgusted and sick, I imagine.
Don't get me started on those 'pressed' into the navy .
fnn , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:33 pm GMT
@gotmituns I've read that's she's a Hmong. As dumb as the press is, I don't know how they could confuse Hmong and Chinese.
Emily , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT
@chuckywiz Why was he treated brutally by the police.

Was he?
The autopsy doesn't appear to record 'brutal physical injury' of the kind you appear to claim .
Could you detail the evidence that demonstrates such 'brutality'
Restraint surely does not come into that category and there is no or very little indication on his neck or throat.
Clarify the facts, Chucky, so we can all see the cuts, bruises, abrasions
Perhaps you will also give us some information as to how you would have handled a very large such individual full of fentanyl and other substances .

Sean , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:44 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz The author of the article talks about the knee on Floyd's neck only. But while he may be correct, that knee was not the only thing going on. I am talking about the other things including Chauvin's other knee. Officer Lane seems to have diagnosed Floyd's medical status as one unlikely to stand up to the tender mercies being administered by Chauvin. Lane, the first cop to talk to Floyd, had immediately observed he had been foaming at the mouth. Later, once Chauvin got on top of Floyd, Lane suggested turning him face up, and said he was worried about EXD. Lane's partner complained and said 'don't do that' to Chauvin in relation to him kneeling on Floyd.

If a 300lb wrestler was to apply a tight bodylock (bear hug) and keep it on tight, breathing would halt and the one being bear hugged would quite likely die within 10 minutes. Floyd's breathing was constricted by his bulk and being put face down with cuffs pulling his arms against the side of his ribcage. The weight and duration of Chauvin's knee on Floyd's back surely is what tipped the balance and killed him. There is an ex cop and prison guard who admits he used to deliberately break the fingers of resisting convicts who points to the sun glasses perched on Chauvin's head and the casual placement of his hands while kneeling on Flyod as clear indications there was no meaningful resistance from him, see here .

It is not mere opinion that Floyd was not actively resisting arrest during the several minutes he had Chauvin on top of him, because officer Chauvin was recorded explaining the reason Floyd was being pinned down was he had not cooperated earlier , when they had tried to put him in the police car. Hence Chavin virtually admitted it was a was a physical punishment for previous non-cooperation, but in law Chavin is not permitted to use the restraint technique as a punitive measure, which he knew very well. Hence Chauvin was commiting a felony, wham, in the course of which someone died, bam. Wham bam: felony murder.

JimDandy , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:49 pm GMT
@chuckywiz Actually, this article touches on what you consider the "main discussion" when it assesses whether or not the cop was following procedure. Is the man being vilified as the worst person on earth just a guy who was doing the job he was taught to do? If you think the rules are wrong, you're free to work to change them. This cop will face an American court, not some post-revolutionary tribunal. The question is whether or not his trial will look more like the latter than the former.
Trinity , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:51 pm GMT
Hispanic cop in Georgia shoots and kills white guy who grabs Hispanic cop's taser = NO coverage by national media. Hell, I live in Georgia and I didn't even hear about this one.

White cop in Georgia shoots and kills black guy who grabs White cop's taser = NONSTOP 24/7 coverage by national media.

SHOULD THE MEDIA BE LABELED AS A HATE GROUP BY THE $PLC?

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:52 pm GMT
@Anonymous Yep. The more Blacks in a society, the less safe and prosperous it is.

This is not complicated; it's an IQ issue.

Google: National IQs

Notice a pattern?

[MORE]
• 108 Singapore
• 106 South Korea
• 105 Japan
• 105 China
• 102 Italy
• 101 Iceland
• 101 Mongolia
• 101 Switzerland
• 100 Austria
• 100 Luxembourg
• 100 Netherlands
• 100 Norway
• 100 United Kingdom
• 99 Belgium
• 99 Canada
• 99 Estonia
• 99 Finland
• 99 Germany
• 99 New Zealand

[snip]

• 70 Botswana
• 70 Rwanda
• 69 Burundi
• 69 Cote d'Ivoire
• 69 Ethiopia
• 69 Malawi
• 69 Niger
• 68 Angola
• 68 Chad
• 68 Djibouti
• 68 Somalia
• 68 Swaziland
• 67 Dominica
• 67 Guinea
• 67 Haiti
• 67 Liberia
• 66 Gambia
• 65 Congo
• 64 Cameroon
• 64 Gabon
• 64 Sierra Leone
• 64 Mozambique
• 59 Equatorial Guinea

Blacks can only achieve because they have White admixture or because they reside in White societies. Too few of them are smart enough to even build sufficient infrastructure in Africa to allow the Black intellectual elite to achieve.

Sub-Saharan Africans have never made a contribution to the world. If allowed to become too numerous they destroy previously-thriving and safe White cities.

This is why Blacks seethe with jealousy and hatred of Whites yet can't seem to stay away because they want what we create and maintain, no matter if they deserve it or not. They want our peaceful and clean neighborhoods, our law and order, our technology and science, our school systems, our inventions, the jobs we create, the food we grow, the transportation we invent, the entertainment we provide Blacks hate us but can't live without us. That's why they demand that we take care of them and give them special rights and privileges that we don't grant ourselves, just to compensate for their inability at living in a modern and technologically-advanced civilization.

Some groups succeed all the time, everywhere. Some have never succeeded anywhere.

Blacks are the oldest race, so they should be the most advanced race; but they never developed at all and had to be domesticated by Whites.

National IQs calculated and validated for 108 nations:

https://www.academia.edu/18754731/National_IQs_calculated_and_validated_for_108_nations

https://mason.gmu.edu/~gjonesb/IQandNationalProductivity.pdf

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:54 pm GMT
@Sick of Orcs "Access to Whites is not a right."

Just week we had a White sub-Saharan African (Elon Musk) launch a spacecraft while Black sub-Saharan Africans destroyed several cities.

Name a civilization (or even a written language) ever created by Blacks.

Name a single contribution from sub-Saharan Africans to the world.

The simple fact is, everything Blacks have was given to them by Whites.

Blacks are the only race never to have civilized. They were removed from the jungle just 250 years ago.

Blacks can only achieve because they have White admixture or because they reside in White societies. Too few of them are smart enough to even build sufficient infrastructure in Africa to allow the Black intellectual elite to achieve.

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT
@annamaria "whites-were-slaves-in-north-africa-before-blacks-were-slaves-new-world"

Slavery was the best thing to happen to Blacks, it was essentially a rescue mission by a free cruise. Being a slave was actually a good career move for a Black African -- as it still would be today. An enslaved Black in any non-Black country has a higher standard of living than a free Black living among his own kind.

After defeating George Foreman for the heavyweight boxing title in Zaire (now Congo), Muhammad Ali returned to the United States where he was asked by a reporter, "Champ, what did you think of Africa?" Ali replied, "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat."

Blacks are incapable of creating a civilization of their own. Blacks can only achieve because they have White admixture or because they reside in White societies. Everything Blacks have was given to them by Whites.

anonymous [400] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 2:58 pm GMT
Criminally insane Floyd killed himself. His chosen lifestyle could only lead to a bad end sooner or later. He shouldn't even have been out on the street after his armed home invasion conviction. It was the misfortune of the police to have had to deal with this drugged-up thug at the point he was going to expire due to drugs and eroded health due to years long drug use. He was a large, tough looking criminal that one had to be careful in dealing with. This is the 'hero' of the moment, one of the scummiest people one could ever meet.
Herald , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT
@Anon Get a big copper to put his weighted knee on your neck for 8 minutes or so and then report back and tell us how it was for you.
fnn , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:07 pm GMT
@chuckywiz The Jewish MSM always ignores non-black victims of police misconduct. They made a collective decision to do that following the mild uproar over Ruby Ridge and the Waco massacre of the Branch Davidians. Today the Narrative is all about white oppressors and black victims.

It is economic disparity and hopelessness, stupid, and that is what the pundits are avoiding purposely.

We can't read minds, so you could possibly be right. But in the visible world toppling statues of white men and various displays of guilt-mongering seem to be taking precedence over any racially neutral economic demands.

EoinW , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:17 pm GMT
Muddy the water. Now we know why they hate us. Now we know why posters at this site and Zero Hedge are considered white trash. Science is unacceptable when lefties use it to promote global warming or the Nazis use it to lock down our society, but when it can be manipulated to try and prove dirty cops innocent then it's okay. What's to conclude? Giant Echo Chamber! The Left has it to keep their ignorant followers in line. The Right has it as well. Everyone preaching to their audience and no one really worried too much about truth.

This is an excellent site. It's a shame that it feels a need to blame EVERYTHING on Jews or Socialists or whatever the rednecks have been brainwashed to fear. The site simply hurts its credibility doing this. Not much better than Left wing groups and that's one serious Freak Show!

Rurik , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:29 pm GMT
@obwandiyag

They riot because they are sick and tired of the ways cops treat them–

no, they're rioting because blacks and browns don't have academic and economic parity with whites, and the ((universities)) have instructed their charges that there's no such thing as racial differences, and so that means all the academic and economic discrepancies between white and black, and the over-representation of blacks in the criminal justice system, are all a direct consequence of lingering, "systemic" white racism in America.

That's why they're rioting. The Floyd death was simply the perfect metaphor for America's 'racism', crystalized down to nine minutes of video.

The video was simply the catalyst, for a mindset that's been foisted by the ((universities)) and ((media)) for many decades now.

We're seeing what they've wanted all along. White people transformed into Palestinians, treated as second class citizens. Affirmative action, and now free health care ONLY for blacks in Kentucky.

White people will pay the taxes, but not get the benefits, because they're racists and anti-Semites, and like the Palestinians (terrorists) they don't deserve any rights.

That's what this is all about. The 21st century is to be like the 20th, a Jewish supremacist orgy of racial hatred unleashed.

Ko , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:29 pm GMT
From what I understand, Fentanyl acts quickly and if he had 3x lethal dose in him, he would have died earlier.

I feel bad for the cops, trained by Israelis who routinely kill Palestinians and use the knee of the head move. Look here at pics:

https://insidearabia.com/israel-exports-its-brutal-police-training-to-the-us-and-it-shows/

I don't understand why they held him down so long. It seems as if they wanted to wait until the criminal stopped tensing himself, which could be an indicator of continued resistance. Maybe they felt if they eased up, he'd jump up and fight them as the guy in Atlanta did.

The Atlanta cops are going to get lynched. That's not justice.

Trinity , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:37 pm GMT
@RobbieSmith Ali spoke a lot of truth and the only reason the counterculture adopted him is because of his stance against "Whitey" or what they thought was his stance against "Whitey." I do not blame Ali for not wanting to fight for America in the Vietnam War. When Ali grew up, Blacks were indeed second class citizens, far from it now, they have their asses kissed 24/7. Ali was about Blacks pulling themselves up by the bootstraps, and was a hardcore SEPARATIST. Ali actually had more than a touch of Irish blood in him. I wish more Blacks did indeed belong to the NOI like Ali, I think we would have less crime and they would stay to themselves.
Anonymous [363] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:37 pm GMT
George Floyd was an unhealthy man. He wasn't an angel. He wasn't even a decent citizen. He was a piece of shit.

But he didn't die of an overdose.

He died from a cop burying his knee on his neck for almost 10 minutes. Already in horrible shape with breathing problems, his body wasn't able to handle it.

Floyd was pleading for him to get off his neck. He was asking for his mother. C'mon people. Chauvin was heartless and ignorant. All he had to do was get off Floyd's neck. He wasn't a threat.

Chauvin had a serious lapse in judgement. So did Floyd. He wouldn't have been in that position in the first place. We can always argue that Floyd was a piece of shit. Maybe he was, but he didn't have to die like that. Who in this comment section is so perfect to judge?

Chauvin has his own issues. He isn't a murderer either. Ignorant and callous, yes. Deserving of jail time. I don't think so. Therapy and retirement form the police force? Absolutely.

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:38 pm GMT
3 problems in US

1 Blacks can newer be civilized.
2 Blacks will never trust white people.
3 Whatever whites will do. Blacks will never be satisfied until they will have all and permanent administrative power.

Rurik , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:38 pm GMT
@EoinW

Nazis use it to lock down our society

what a lying POS you are

It was the liberal Democratic governors who were the worst 'lock-down' "Nazis", but to a dishonest, agenda-driven liar like you, the truth is only something to bastardize to your own hatred-consumed agenda.

EVERYTHING on Jews or Socialists or whatever the rednecks have been brainwashed to fear.

Yea, it's not like thousands of those rednecks haven't given their lives in the last two decades fighting the Eternal Wars for Israel, now is it? But that's a price we should all pay for what was done on (((9/11))), huh?

Dweezil the Weasel , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 3:45 pm GMT
The entire debate is moot at this point. Floyd is dead. The puppeteers have their "Crisis". The mob is still out there. Thought crime is the new passion. Negroes can do nothing wrong. When they do, it is my fault because I am white. Up is down, down is up, etc. The big question is what lies ahead.
This was all manufactured to cover the real truth about a collapsing economic system which will devastate nations and economies all over the world. When it hits(my bet is before 2021), nothing else will matter. Here in Amerika, the Sheeple, Normies, and Cucks will go bat-s ** t crazy. It will be Bosnia times Rwanda times Venezuela, times The Stand. Plan accordingly. Bleib ubrig. Proverbs 27:12.
Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:05 pm GMT
All this hysteria over one dead black thug and utter silence about far more tragic/innocent victims(often at the hands of black thugs) suggest that the 'systemic racism' is in favor of blacks.

It's like US's favoritism for Zionists over Palestinians, Iranians, and Arabs.

We hear endless yammering about 'antisemitism' and 'white supremacism', but US is pathologically philosemitic and serving Jewish Supremacism 24/7.

BTW. it will be funny when a black guy wearing a Floyd t-shirt ends up dead at the hands of another black.

Trinity , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:11 pm GMT
@Anonymous IF this whole incident is REAL, and believe me, nowadays I have a hard time believing anything we see in the media or read is REAL, I have to say the cop was wrong and does deserve to do time. Whatever the guy died from, people in the crowd told Chauvin over and over that Floyd wasn't moving. The other cops should have pulled Chauvin off as well. The case in Atlanta is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, however. IMO, Chauvin is guilty of manslaughter and quite possibly second degree murder, but that one would be hard to prove. BUT the question must be ASKED ONCE AGAIN, how or why did it come to this, WHY didn't George Floyd COMPLY with officer's orders? Floyd would still be alive IF he had JUST COMPLIED with the cops. What is it about complying with an officer's orders do Blacks not understand? A couple months ago a man was killed right up the street from me because he attacked an officer with a knife. The officer responded to a domestic dispute and the man STUPIDLY charged an armed cop with a knife and was shot dead. White cop, and white perp so that was the end of story.
ruralguy , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:11 pm GMT
@Ficino Covid-19 attacks cells with ACE-2 enzyme receptors. They are present in the lungs, heart, intestine, blood vessels, and kidneys. Many people infected with Covid-19 suffer more damage in these organs than in the lungs. People think they will recover quickly from this virus like another cold (two of the cold strains are actually coronoviruses) or flu viruses, but it's damage to the organs is more severe. It leaves them vulnerable to next year's covid-20, where they will now have "preexisting health conditions."
Agent76 , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:12 pm GMT
It is and was Murder!

May 28, 2020 #GeorgeFloyd Before Being Killed At The Hands Of Police Talking About Street Violence Killings

Video of George Floyd Before being Killed talks about the violence on the streets.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/h7cmBW1QKlI?feature=oembed

May 27, 2020 New video shows Minneapolis police arrest of George Floyd before death

Four white officers involved in the death of George Floyd have been fired from the Minneapolis Police Department, but Mayor Jacob Frey is saying that one of the officers should be arrested for pressing his knee on Floyd's neck.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZWzkgKPZWcw?feature=oembed

FB , says: Website Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:15 pm GMT
@Jim Bob Lassiter

Well let's have 'em (couple of thousand cop murders) . And don't forget to include Ruby Ridge and Waco, Texas.

Police extrajudicial executions of civilians are over 1,000 EACH YEAR in the United States far more than any other country in the world

–The Counted

Also we learn from this 'article' that

Dr. Vincent Di Maio estimated that Excited Delirium Syndrome kills 800 people every year in police altercations because the victims "are just overexciting [their] heart from the drugs and from the struggle.

So that is nearly 2,000 civilians a year that die in interactions with police basically the Wild West

fnn , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:27 pm GMT
@EoinW

Muddy the water.

Talk about pure projection.

vot tak , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:29 pm GMT
@Biff I've known plenty of people over the years prejudiced against people of one race, but not another. Yes, it is common and is a dumb question.
JimDandy , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:30 pm GMT
@Agent76 Yelling and posting videos won't change the fact that you're wrong and have no valid counter-arguments to the ones presented in this article.

Thx.

Dieter Kief , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:35 pm GMT
@DanFromCT

As a result, incompetence that would otherwise have remained harmless often becomes dangerous, especially as incompetent people with good intentions rarely suffer the qualms of conscience that sometimes inhibit the doings of competent people with bad intentions.

Good intentions were cobbling his way to disaster. – Old German saying. – I like Dietrich Doerner – as a social scientist and as a humble man (a Social Democratic leftie from the days before the left grew "regressive" (Dave Rubin).

George , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:40 pm GMT
Floyd's condition is irrelevant. If I have the facts straight Floyd was handcuffed and loaded inside the police car. For reasons that are unclear he ends up face down on the asphalt with 4 dudes sitting on top of him. For me, without an amazing explanation all four should never have been police officers. His death makes it worse but the inexplicable part is why he was on the pavement being crushed.
Hedd Mcnekk , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:42 pm GMT
@obwandiyag Are you really going to share "a couple thousand" murders by police with us? Ok, I'll bite. Send them to us in short installments of 3 or 4 hundred, just so we can keep up.
Anonymous [456] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:53 pm GMT
@annamaria Where did I even remotely insinuate anything about slavery in my post? Your sickness is part of the denial I was referring to.
Dan Kurt , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 4:57 pm GMT
@Cranberries RE: Might help for someone to explain this calculation, since simply summing the fentanyl and norfentanyl concentrations gives 16.6, not 20.6. Cranberries comment #6.

I read somewhere that another fentanyl moiety was also detected in George Floyd's autopsy blood. That may explain the discrepancy.

Dan Kurt

Enemy of Earth , says: Website Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:01 pm GMT
I really hate saying it but you could have a video of St.George shooting up minutes before his encounter with Minneapolis' finest and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. The Church of the Perpetually Aggrieved have their martyr and will not let trivial things like truth get in the way.

When I'm feeling particularly cynical and want to irritate the Missus I will say something like, "Yeah, that was pretty bad but he probably did something we don't know about. So it all evens out in the end."

Rich , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:01 pm GMT
@vot tak Oh "prejudiced " against a particular group, is that the same thing as "racist" now"? Does "racist " mean anything other than White? The word "prejudice " means to "pre-judge", what if someone judges a person or group after getting to know them very well? What if I find I love all people except Tibetans, am I a "racist "? For you kooks, I am if I'm White. So I guess that's a "dumb question", since I'm pretty Pale
Dieter Kief , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:02 pm GMT
@Emslander

Videos and photos are very poor evidence because they only raise an emotional response.

This is fact is usually overlooked. I still don't really grasp, why that is. But people seem to lack – media education, or self-reflective self-distancing concerning the difference between being an ey-witness and witnessing a video about an event. – Maybe Marshal McLuhan is one reason that the video-deception is not being noticed for what it is: a major source of self-deception because he made media-reflection trendy and at the same time clueless.

This seems at first sight like a rather dismal academic distinction – until it becomes crucial to make it, like in this case.

By now I might even be boring some readers of Unz.com by insisting on the following factual truth: Tom Wolfe showed in pristine detail, just how this video deception, as you might call it, works in his (sigh, I'll repeat this esthetic fact too now for the umpteenth time) – Tom Wolfe was able to show how this video-deception plays out in his excellent novel Back to Blood .

PS
It might be not accidental, that Tom Wolfe did have a close look at Marshal McLuhan's ideas and did write quite a bit about it, long before he started to work at Back to Blood . – Fruits take their time until they're ripe, it seems.

Rurik , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:05 pm GMT
@Trinity

What is it about complying with an officer's orders do Blacks not understand?

since I generally agree with you, and agree that this was likely staged, and that the other cops should have intervened, and that Chauvin was obviously guilty of a callous disregard for the man's life, (regardless of what he actually died of).. I agree with that all.

But I also understand why some people would try to flee the cops, (and being arrested and having your life destroyed). It's a risk some people are willing to take. Like the guy who was murdered by cop, lying in the snow (while being sadistically tortured by tazer). That sadistic bitch tortured him to death because he ran from her, and defied her 'authority'.

I've known of too many cops in my lifetime who're drunk on their authority (power), and I don't blame some people for running from them. If our laws say it's ok for cops to shoot such people, then so be it, but if they're not allowed to shoot suspects running away, then if that's murder, it's murder. No?

American cops are way too militarized and often murderous and unaccountable. Absofuckinglutely.

But the Jews are turning this into a racial issue for their own agenda, whatever that is at the moment. Perhaps simply as an amusement, to watch whitey squirm. (one of their favorite pastimes ; )

ThreeCranes , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:08 pm GMT
@Steve in Greensboro Agree. Apparently many commenters can neither read nor reason from empirical evidence.
ThreeCranes , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT
I've never before seen such stupidity in the comments as is seen here today. Something strange is going on. Many of you didn't read the article but have strong opinions. This isn't typical of Unz readers. For some reason the Trolls are out in force on this one. Are you trying to destroy this website's credibility?
nokangaroos , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT
@Emily In certain quarters first responders do carry naloxone injectors for that contingency – it takes half an hour of training.
Opioid LD50s are house numbers, but it´s a possibility.
Clearly no choking, but I wouldn´t rule out vagus shock.

Overall I´d say a measured exposé, but as many others already noted the question is moot now.

Johnny Smoggins , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:19 pm GMT
@Biff Given your confidence, can you tell us the exact number of "racists" married to people of other races in America?

Your response should be within 2% of the actual number, and please also provide proof of the "racism" on the part of the individual "racists" married to non Whites.

File that under "overconfident moron"

Bucky , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:28 pm GMT
It is possible that floyd died of a drug overdose.

Not long after the video of Floyd s death came out a journalist from the Atlantic tried to reenact it. He was unable to keep his balance for the amount of time.

This is possibly because the knee on the neck was not putting that much pressure on the neck. It is possible that it was it was an even stance and the knee was applying slight or no pressure.

Pop Warner , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:29 pm GMT
@obwandiyag They riot because the press whips them up into a frenzy. There is no shortage of blacks killed by police or whites killed by police but this incident was spread to the 4 channels blacks are capable of finding and drove them to riot.
If blacks don't like how cops treat them, then they should improve their savage behavior. Over half of all homicides, over a third of cop killers, the majority who shoot at police, and far more likely to resist arrest. When will blacks learn basic civilization, or do whites need to hold their hand yet again?
Hippopotamusdrome , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:29 pm GMT
@ICANREAD

Your underlying analysis is incorrect. People overdose at much higher levels and live through it.

Ok. Then you say:

One of the 18 patients died in hospital.

I don't know the point you're trying to make. Other than the author is correct.

Hippopotamusdrome , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:33 pm GMT
@anon

Then, one officer pulled him out on the other side.

I assaume because he demanded to be let out due to a medical emergency. "I can't breathe!". So they did and called an ambulance, which arrived a little later.

starthorn , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT
Truth is the first victim of criminality. There, that's better.
Hippopotamusdrome , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 5:43 pm GMT
@backup

there are signs that COVID19 decreases Hemoglobin levels

LOL. As if COVID19 is real.

steinbergfeldwitzcohen , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:07 pm GMT
Facts:
1.Officer Derek Chauvin isn't in the video. The person purported to be Officer Chauvin is a different person and that is quite clear from examining stills from the video and comparing them to still photos of Officer Derek Chauvin.

2.One of the police vehicles had a licence plate that said 'POLICE'. This is absurd.

These are just two EXTREMELY obvious facts about the 'video' and there are dozens more fun facts about this incident that really no other conclusion is possible IF a person is observant AND honest about this video: it is a hoax. See: canucklaw.ca for an excellent and detailed breakdown.

Somehow, nearly everyone in 'professional media', aka as the presstitutes paid to lie by their jewish billionaire employers, accepts this obvious HOAX as though it is legit and beyond question.

Sounds familiar. Kind of like every mass shooting incident of the last 18 years which is to say, ever since the HOAX of 9/11 the Jew Spew Propaganda arm just can't stop 'reporting' on clearly faked events anytime they want to push the gun control issue, distract from another issue or, worse still, to manipulate low IQ ghetto thugs, communists and assorted snow-flakes into rioting which the Jew spew media then presents as 'peaceful protests'.
Anyone else sick of this never ending effort to manipulate the conversation away from the theft of Trillions of dollars being presided over by Zion Don, his underlings Mnuchin, Jared Kushner and the Federal Reserve Bank.

Last time I checked the unemployment number, that was previously 40 million, it seems to have inched up to nearly 50 million. I expect to see continued efforts, each more desperate than the last, as the elites fight for power, loot the treasury and race-bait. I don't know when but I expect that at some point, barring any corruption or treason trials. elites will start to be executed by vigilante groups. I just can't see these level of social pressure, outright criminality and outrageous propaganda continuing to grow before average people become frustrated and disenfranchised enough to act. Somewhere from among the silent majority of rational Americans I expect to see a response to the last 2 decades of 'Global War of Terror' insanity,financial looting of the present and future American people with a dash of race war tossed in as a further insult to reason.
It amazes me that a community of largely dysfunctional blacks -mostl net takers from the economic system-have the gall to use the term 'white privilege'. They don't pay taxes beyond basic consumption, cause endless problems, avoid the infantry in every war, and now want 'reparations' after leeching off whites for over 150 years. It never ceases to amaze me how effective propaganda is and how incredibly stupid the far left of the curve can be.

Wally , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:08 pm GMT
@obwandiyag said:
"People don't riot over the specific police murder that sets it off. They riot because they are sick and tired of the ways cops treat them–one of the ways being to murder them"

– Then Euro-whites should be the ones rioting.
– The number of Euro-whites killed by police are much, much higher than blacks, which is remarkable considering that blacks do the vast amount crime.
– It is whites who are targeted by blacks, the stats don't lie.
The Color of Crime : https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/

Tucker Carlson Breaks Down Every Police Shooting Of Unarmed Black Suspects In 2019: https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/03/tucker-carlson-police-shootings-genocide/
Police are more likely to shoot whites, not blacks : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-a-massive-new-study-on-police-shootings-of-whites-and-blacks-is-so-controversial/?utm_term=.1db63f3f7797
Study Concludes White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Black Citizens: https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/23/study-white-police-officers-not-likely-shoot-black-citizens/
Black Officers More Likely than White Officers to Shoot Suspects : http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/26/study-black-officers-more-likely-than-white-officers-to-shoot-suspects/
There Is No Epidemic of Racist Police Shootings , By Heather Mac Donald: https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/white-cops-dont-commit-more-shootings/

Trinity , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:17 pm GMT
@Rurik I agree with your post 100%. If Mr. Floyd had been White and the cops were White, this story wouldn't have been talked about outside of Minneapolis. Speaking of Minneapolis, notice the JEW MEDIA covered the story about the black thug throwing the white kid off a balcony in the Mall Of America for about 3 minutes, and no suggestions of race at all. Yep, I don't buy the Pawn Vanity narrative that 99% of cops are decent either. I can't think of any profession that could make that claim. I am watching the telly as I type this and now the natives are engaging in a multi-city "Juneteenth March." LMAO. I guess this will now become a national holiday. How anyone can be fooled by this anymore is beyond stupid. Take care, my friend and enjoy the comedy placed before us.
Bethany , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:25 pm GMT
I've been on Derek Chauvin's side from the beginning. I knew it was just a race thing that the media blew up and distorted, just like that kid wearing the MAGA cap with the native American in DC, whose name I forgot. I hope that Derek Chauvin will be found not guilty and will sue the mainstream media like that kid from Kentucky did. My only fear is that America is not an honest country anymore and even if it is so blatantly obvious that Chauvin is innocent, that they will have to find him guilty anyway.

I just can't stand it. I can't stand the thought of that happening. I mean, imagine that ultimatum . serve justice or risk a city burning down. How can the masses be so misinformed? Unaware and corrupted?

I took some notes today from E. Michael Jones, I watched his video, Sicut Judaeis Non, and I/we have to really let what he said sink into our beings, in order that we can resist it and not acquiesce. I can't go along with corruption and let injustice come to Derek Chauvin. The truth has to be told.

My notes from E. Michael Jones:

"Jewish identity is the rejection of logos- political, moral, economical"
"Modernization is about everyone becoming Jewish."
"We have internalized the commands of our Jewish oppressors."
"We have a Jewish superego."
"Break free from the control of Jews in our minds."

And recently I've been watching Yuri Benzmenov again, we really have to understand the deep psychological warfare, the hypnotic spell we've been under and break free from it.

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:38 pm GMT
@SOL What else is new? Repeat offender was a drug addict. Drug addict died of an overdose. People using lies about his death are not revolutionaries, they are just bandits, burglars and vandals.
Voltara , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:47 pm GMT
@anonymous1963 They'll get a fair trial and be found not guilty . setting off round #2 of rioting and looting a couple of weeks before the november election
Voltara , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:53 pm GMT
@Dan Kurt Hey Dan, I thiiiiink .. norfentanyl is a metabolite of fentanyl, which means it has been absorbed and processed by the body so the norfentanyl level would be indicative of a higher/additional level of fentanyl intake, which when calculated backwards implies 20.6 total
RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:54 pm GMT
@Rurik "no, they're rioting because blacks and browns don't have academic and economic parity with whites, and the ((universities)) have instructed their charges that there's no such thing as racial differences, and so that means all the academic and economic discrepancies between white and black, and the over-representation of blacks in the criminal justice system, are all a direct consequence of lingering, "systemic" white racism in America."

The persistent so-called "achievement gap" reveals the same racial IQ hierarchy on standardized academic exams. The SAT is largely a measure of general intelligence. Scores on the SAT correlate very highly with scores on standardized tests of intelligence, and like IQ scores, are stable across time and not easily increased through training, coaching, or practice. SAT preparation courses appear to work, but the gains are small -- on average, no more than about 20 points per section.

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Even after decades of focused attention to the achievement gap, it has remained unchanged.

Vanderbilt University researchers tracked the educational and occupational accomplishments of more than 2,000 people who as part of a youth talent search and determined that scores on the SAT correlate so highly with IQ that they are described as a "thinly disguised" intelligence test.

ACT Scores by Race:

Year White Black Asian
2009 22.2 16.9 23.2
2010 22.3 16.9 23.4
2011 22.4 17.0 23.6
2012 22.4 17.0 23.6
2013 22.2 16.9 23.5
2014 22.3 17.0 23.5
2015 22.4 17.1 23.9
2016 22.2 17.0 24.0
2017 22.4 17.1 24.3
2018 22.2 16.9 24.5

Source: ACT, Inc.

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Black-White SAT Score Gap by Year:

Year White Black Gap
1985 1038 839 199
1990 1031 849 185
1996 1052 857 195
2000 1060 859 201
2005 1061 863 197
2010 1063 855 208
2015 1047 846 201

The new SAT introduced in 2017 was "designed to inspire and increase access to college" by creating "a more equitable exam". The new SAT cannot be compared to previous results:

Year White Black Gap
2017 1118 941 177
2018 1123 946 177

The 2017 "college readiness" scores (ability to earn a C or higher in an entry-level course) showed the stark racial achievement gap; Asians scored 70% college readiness, Whites 59%, and Blacks only 20%.

(Source: U.S. Dept. of Education, College Board)

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

SAT scores are highly correlated to intelligence test scores. The SAT correlates with an IQ test at 0.86, almost the same as an IQ test correlates with itself. For this reason, we can very reliably take SAT scores and convert them to IQ scores.

Results of psycho-metric IQ and scholastic tests are highly correlated. Rindermann & Thompson (2013, p. 822)

In the 20 year period from 1994-2014 the Black-White difference increased on both the verbal and math SATs despite targeted efforts to close the race gap. On the reading test, it rose from .91 to .96 standard deviations. On the math test, it rose from .95 to 1.03 standard deviations.

In fact, the truncated nature of the SAT math score distribution suggests that these race gaps would be even larger given a harder exam with a bigger score variance. Note, for example, how the Black score distribution is cut off at the bottom while the Asian score distribution is cut off at the top. That suggests that a redesigned exam might feature even more pronounced race gaps.

Percent by Race Reaching the SAT College and Career Readiness Benchmark:

15% = Black
24% = Non-White Hispanic
35% = Native American
53% = White
56% = Asian

Source: The College Board, 2014

PISA scores by race:

White Black Asian
531 433 525

Source: National Center for Education Statistics, 2015

NAEP Report Card: Mathematics

"In 2019, there were no significant changes in score disparities compared to 2017 across most reported student groups in eighth-grade mathematics, with a few exceptions. For example, among racial/ethnic groups, the average mathematics score at grade 8 for White students was 32 points higher than the average score for their Black peers in 2019 and 24 points higher than the average mathematics score for eighth-grade Hispanic students. The 32-point White–Black score difference in 2019 was not significantly different from the 32-point score difference in 2017, the previous assessment year, nor the 33-point score gap in 1990, the first assessment year."

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/mathematics/nation/groups/?grade=8

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Blacks and Whites with Equal Educational Attainment Differ in Cognitive Ability

Black and White Americans with the same formal level of education differ significantly in their cognitive abilities. Specifically, within any given level of formal education Whites consistently outperform Blacks. Moreover, this effect is so strong that Blacks often underperform Whites who have lower levels of formal education than they do.

Consider the following data from the General Social Survey. This public data is frequently used in social science research and contains a test of verbal intelligence as well as measurements of participant's self-identified race and highest educational degree obtained. Verbal intelligence tests correlate at around .75 with full-scale IQ and so this data can also be taken as a fair measure of intelligence in general (Lynn, 1998). If we set the White mean score on this test to 100 and the standard deviation to 15, we can come up with an "IQ" style scale.

As can be seen, using this method Blacks with a graduate degree have a level of verbal intelligence indistinguishable from that of Whites with a junior college degree. Blacks with a four-year degree are roughly on par with Whites who never went to college at all.

IQ BY RACE AND HIGHEST DEGREE EARNED (1972 – 2014):

Highest Degree White IQ Black IQ Gap
High School Drop-out: 89 82 7
High School Diploma 98 90 8
Junior College Degree 102 95 7
Bachelor's Degree 108 100 8
Graduate Degree 113 102 11

This data is consistent with evidence from the National Adult Literacy Survey (NALS) which administered tests of cognitive ability to 26,000 US adults in 1992. These tests were designed to measure how well people could take information and use it in a way which would help them function in modern society.

Blacks are such poor academic achievers that the National Achievement Scholarship Program was created with lower standards for Black candidates only, instead of the National Merit Scholarship Program which is open to everyone else.

THE SMARTEST STUDENTS: The National Merit Scholarship Program was founded to identify and honor scholastically talented American youth and to encourage them to develop their abilities to the fullest.

BLACK STUDENTS ONLY: The National Achievement Scholarship Program was initiated specifically to identify academically promising Black American youth and encourage their pursuit of higher education.

They are both measured on the PSAT.

Minimum score for National Achievement: 190
Minimum score for National Merit: 220

Roughly, PSAT x 10 = SAT (out of 2400)

The U.S. government's PACE examination, given to 100,000 university graduates who are prospective professional or administrative civil-service employees each year, is passed with a score of 70 or above by 58% of the Whites who take it but by only 12% of the Blacks. Among top scorers the difference between Black and White performance is even more striking; 16% of the White applicants make scores of 90 or above, while only one-fifth of one percent of a Black applicants score as high as 90 -- a White-Black success ratio of 80/1. IQ differences become more pronounced with greater g-loading.

Bill Gates, after pulling philanthropic funding from Common Core, "When disaggregated by race, we see two Americas. One where White students perform along the lines of the best in the world with achievement comparable to countries like Finland and Korea. And another America, where Black and Latino students perform comparably to the students in the lowest performing OECD countries, such as Chile and Greece."

Blacks score so poorly on academic exams that colleges give them 230 "race bonus" SAT points to help them qualify for admission:

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/webAdmission%20Preferences%20Espenshade%20Chung%20Walling%20Dec%202004.pdf

"Personal scores" are the new subterfuge for artificially assisting Blacks gain admission to universities. Asian-American applicants receive a 2 or better on the personal score more than 20% of the time only in the top academic index decile. By contrast, white applicants receive a 2 or better on the personal score more than 20% of the time in the top six deciles. Hispanics receive such personal scores more than 20% of the time in the top seven deciles, and Blacks receive such scores more than 20% of the time in the top eight deciles.

An otherwise identical applicant bearing an Asian male identity with a 25 percent chance of admission would have a 32 percent chance of admission if he were White, a 77 percent chance of admission if he were Hispanic, and a 95 percent chance of admission if he were Black.

RobbieSmith , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 6:58 pm GMT
@FB "Police extrajudicial executions of civilians are over 1,000 EACH YEAR in the United States far more than any other country in the world "

In 2016, the police fatally shot 233 Blacks, the vast majority armed and dangerous, according to the Washington Post. The paper categorized only 16 Black male victims of police shootings as "unarmed." That classification masks assaults against officers and violent resistance to arrest.

Contrary to the Black Lives Matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from Black males than Black males have to fear from the police. In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a Black male than an unarmed Black male was to be killed by a police officer.

From 1980 to 2013, there were 2,269 officers killed in felonious incidents, and 2,896 offenders. The racial breakdown of offenders over that 33-year period was 52% White, and 41% Black. So, the 13% total Black population in the U.S. commits 41% of police murders.

Further, Black males have made up 42% of all cop-killers over the last decade, though they are only 6 percent of the population. That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers -- committed vastly and disproportionately by Black males.

Nine unarmed Blacks were killed by police in 2019 (seven of whom physically assaulted the officers), as opposed to 19 Whites, according to the Washington Post's database, but Blacks are much more likely to have police encounters than Whites. In an average year, about 49 people are killed by lightning in the US, according to the National Weather Service.

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The Myth of Systemic Police Racism:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/wall-street-journal-op-ed-hold-officers-accountable-who-use-excessive-force-but-theres-no-evidence-of-widespread-racial-bias

An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force
https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force

Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

6 Facts From New Study Finding NO RACIAL BIAS Against Blacks In Police Shootings
https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-study-no-racial-bias-police-involved-shootings-james-barrett

Blacks should be shot more often, based on the number of crimes committed:
https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tpd-major-police-shoot-black-americans-less-we-probably-ought

Every year, American police officers have about 370 million contacts with civilians. Most of the time nothing happens, but 12 to 13 million times a year, the police make an arrest. How often does this lead to the death of an unarmed Black person? We know the number thanks to a detailed Washington Post database of every killing by the police. What is your guess as to the number of unarmed Blacks killed by the police every year? One hundred? Three hundred? Last year, the figure was nine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

That number is going down, not up. In 2015, police killed 38 unarmed Blacks. In 2017, 21. What about White people? Last year, police killed 19 unarmed Whites, in addition to the 9 unarmed Blacks. We know the number of Black and White people arrested every year, so it is possible to make an interesting calculation. The chances of being unarmed, arrested, and then killed by the police are higher for Whites than for Blacks. For both races, it's very rare: One out of 292,000 arrests for Blacks, and out of 283,000 arrests for Whites.

Since 2015, when the Post began tracking these numbers, the police have killed about 1,000 people a year. Every year, about one quarter of them are Black. This is about twice their share of the population, which is 13 percent. Is this proof of police racism? No. The more likely explanation is that Blacks are more likely than Whites to act in violent, aggressive ways that give the police no choice but to shoot them. In 2018, the most recent year for which we have statistics, Blacks accounted for 37 percent of all arrests for violent crimes, 54 percent of all arrests for robbery, and 53 percent of arrests for murder. With so many Blacks involved in this kind of violent crime, that Blacks should account for 25 percent of the people killed by the police seem like a surprisingly low figure.

There is another perspective on police killings of civilians. Every year, criminals kill about 120 to 150 police officers. And we know from this FBI table that every year, on average, about 35 percent of officers are killed by Blacks. So, to repeat, Blacks are 13 percent of the population and account for 25 percent of the people killed by police. But if police were killing them in proportion to their threatening, violent, criminal behavior, they would be a greater percentage of the people killed by the police.

Beavertales , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 7:17 pm GMT
We know much about Officer Chauvin, but very little about Floyd.

Where did he get the drugs?

Was there any trace of it on him, in his car, his residence or the last places he visited?

What was he doing in the hours leading up to his arrest?

Were the people he was with also using?

What is his drug history?

There's a whole story here being concealed.

Patricus , says: Show Comment June 19, 2020 at 7:19 pm GMT
Thank you for a thoughtful article. This reinforces my original thought that we should wait for the results of the trial. Presumably the cop has a competent lawyer who will be able to review and present the comprehensive evidence to a jury. Ideally the prosecuting attorney will also be able to understand and present another side of the story. Ideally there will be a fair jury, not a howling lynch mob, and not a group of retired cops. This system is certainly imperfect but better than shoot from the hip opinions based on some seconds of video viewing.

[Jun 20, 2020] America's Recessional Time to Bring the Troops Home by Philip Giraldi

Jun 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

Two weeks ago a senior Trump Administration official revealed that the president had decided to withdraw 9,500 American soldiers from Germany and that the administration would also be capping total U.S. military presence in that country at 25,000, which might involve more cuts depending what is included in the numbers. The move was welcomed in some circles and strongly criticized in others, but many observers were also bemused by the announcement, noting that Donald Trump had previously ordered a reduction in force in Afghanistan and a complete withdrawal from Syria, neither of which has actually been achieved. In Syria, troops were only moved from the northern part of the country to the oil producing region in the south to protect the fields from seizure by ISIS, while in Afghanistan the nineteen-year-long training mission and infrastructure reconstruction continue.

In a somewhat related development, the Iraqi parliament has called for the removal of U.S. troops from the country, a demand that has been rejected by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Put it all together and it suggests that any announcement coming from the White House on ending America's useless wars should be regarded with some skepticism.

The United States has its nearly 35,000 military personnel remaining in Germany as its contribution to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), founded in 1949 to counter Soviet forces in Eastern Europe in what was to become the Warsaw Pact. Both the Organization and Pact were ostensibly defensive alliances and the U.S. active participation was intended to demonstrate American resolve to come to the aid of Western Europe. Currently, 75 years after the end of World War II and thirty years after the fall of communist governments in Eastern Europe, NATO is an anachronism, kept going by the many statesmen and military establishments of the various countries that have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Since the demise of the European communist regimes, NATO has found work in bombing Serbia, destroying Libya and in helping in the unending task to train an Afghan army.

In spite of the clearly diminished threat in Europe, NATO has expanded to 30 members, including most of the former communist states that made up the Warsaw Pact. The most recent acquisition was Montenegro in 2016, which contributed 2,400 soldiers to the NATO force. That expansion was carried out in spite of assurances given to the post-Soviet Russian government that military encroachment would not take place. Currently, NATO continues to focus on the threat from Moscow as its own viable raison d'être , with its deployments and training exercises often taking place right up against Russia's borders.

Few really believe that the Russia, which has a GDP only the size of Italy's, intends or is even capable of reestablishing anything like the old Soviet Union. But a vulnerable Russia is nevertheless interested in maintaining an old-fashioned sphere of influence around its borders, which explains the concern over developments in Ukraine, Georgia and the Baltic States.

Given the diminished threat level in Europe, the withdrawal of 9,500 soldiers should be welcomed by all parties. Trump has been sending the not unreasonable message that if the Europeans want more defense, they should pay for it themselves, though he has wrapped his proposal in his usual insulting and derogatory language. A wealthy Germany currently spends 1.1% of GDP on its military, far less than the 2% that NATO has declared to be a target to meet alliance commitments. That compares with the nearly 5% that the U.S. has been spending globally, inclusive of intelligence and national security costs.

Fair enough for burden sharing, but the European concern is more focused on how Trump does what he does. For example, he announced the downsizing without informing America's NATO partners. The Germans were surprised and pushed back immediately . Conservative politician Peter Beyer said "This is completely unacceptable, especially since nobody in Washington thought about informing its NATO ally Germany in advance," and German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas regretted the planned withdrawal, describing Berlin's relationship with the Washington as "complicated." Chancellor Angela Merkel was reportedly shocked.

The timing of the decision has also been questioned, with many observers believing that Trump deliberately staged the announcement to punish Merkel for refusing to attend a planned G-7 Summit in the U.S. that the president had been trying to arrange. Merkel argued that dealing with the consequences of the coronavirus made it difficult for her to leave home at the present time and the G-7 planning never got off the ground, which angered Trump, who wanted to demonstrate his global leadership in an election year.

Trump's behavior has real world consequences. The Canadians and Europeans regard him as a joke, but a dangerous joke due to his impulsive decision making. He cannot be trusted and when he says something he often contradicts himself on the next day. Arguably Donald Trump was elected president on the margin of difference provided by an anti-war vote after many Americans took seriously his pledge to end the burgeoning overseas wars and bring the soldiers home. It all may have been a lie even as he was saying it, but it was convincing at the time and a welcome antidote to Hillary the Hawk.

There will be costs associated with removing or relocating the troops in Germany, to include constructing new bases somewhere else, hopefully in the United States, but the realization that the soldiers are not really needed could lead to the downsizing of the U.S. military across the board. That would be strongly resisted by the Pentagon, the defense industries and Congress.

If Trump is serious about downsizing America's overseas commitments, the reduction in the German force is a good first step, even if it was done for the wrong reasons. It would be even better if he would force NATO into discussions about ending the alliance now that it is no longer needed, which would mean that the remaining American soldiers in Europe could come home.

The U.S. mission of global dominance has meant huge budget deficits and a national debt of $26 trillion, which is likely unsustainable. Germany and other European nations, by way of contrast, balance their government budgets every year. South Korea, which hosts 30,000 American soldiers, is wealthy and far more powerful than its northern neighbor. The continued occupation of Japan with 50,000 troops makes no sense even considering an increase in China's regional power. Overall, the United States continues to have 170,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines based overseas in 150 countries and its military budget exceeds one trillion dollars when everything is considered. The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars may have cost as much as seven trillion dollars given the fact that much of the money was borrowed and will have to be repaid with interest.

It is past time for Donald Trump to make a bold move because the Democrats won't have the backbone to rattle the status quo. End the foreign wars, shut down the overseas bases and bring the soldiers home. Spend tax dollars to improve the lives of Americans, not to fight wars for Saudis and Israelis. A simple formula for change, but sometimes simple is best.

[Jun 16, 2020] America's Supernational Sovereignty by Philip Giraldi

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One of the most disturbing aspects of American foreign policy since 9/11 has been the assumption that decisions made by the United States are binding on the rest of the world, best exemplified by President George W. Bush's warning that "there was a new sheriff in town." Apart from time of war, no other nation has ever sought to prevent other nations from trading with each other, nor has any government sought to punish foreigners using sanctions with the cynical arrogance demonstrated by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. The United States uniquely seeks to penalize other sovereign countries for alleged crimes that did not occur in the U.S. and that did not involve American citizens, while also insisting that all nations must comply with whatever penalties are meted out by Washington. At the same time, it demonstrates its own hypocrisy by claiming sovereign immunity whenever foreigners or even American citizens seek to use the courts to hold it accountable for its many crimes.

The conceit by the United States that it is the acknowledged judge, jury and executioner in policing the international community began in the post-World War 2 environment, when hubristic American presidents began referring to themselves as "leaders of the free world." This pretense received legislative and judicial backing with passage of the Anti-Terrorism Act of 1987 (ATA) as amended in 1992 plus subsequent related legislation, to include the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act of 2016 (JASTA). The body of legislation can be used to obtain civil judgments against alleged terrorists for attacks carried out anywhere in the world and can be employed to punish governments, international organizations and even corporations that are perceived to be supportive of terrorists, even indirectly or unknowingly. Plaintiffs are able to sue for injuries to their "person, property, or business" and have ten years to bring a claim.

Sometimes the connections and level of proof required by a U.S. court to take action are tenuous, and that is being polite. Suits currently can claim secondary liability for third parties, including banks and large corporations, under "material support" of terrorism statutes. This includes "aiding and abetting" liability as well as providing "services" to any group that the United States considers to be terrorist, even if the terrorist label is dubious and/or if that support is inadvertent.

The ability to sue in American courts for redress of either real or imaginary crimes has led to the creation of a lawfare culture in which lawyers representing a particular cause seek to bankrupt an opponent through both legal expenses and damages. To no one's surprise, Israel is a major litigator against entities that it disapproves of. The Israeli government has even created and supports an organization called Shurat HaDin, which describes on its website how it uses the law to bankrupt opponents.

The Federal Court for the Southern District of Manhattan has become the clearing house for suing the pants off of any number of foreign governments and individuals with virtually no requirement that the suit have any merit beyond claims of "terrorism." In February 2015, a lawsuit initiated by Shurat HaDin led to the conviction of the Palestinian Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organization of liability for terrorist attacks in Israel between 2000 and 2004. The New York Federal jury awarded damages of $218.5 million, but under a special feature of the Anti-Terrorism Act the award was automatically tripled to $655.5 million. Shurat HaDin claimed sanctimoniously that it was "bankrupting terror."

The most recent legal victory for Israel and its friends occurred in a federal district court in the District of Columbia on June 1 st , where Syria and Iran were held to be liable for the killing of American citizens in Palestinian terrorist attacks that have taken place in Israel. Judge Randolph D. Moss ruled that Americans wounded and killed in seven attacks carried out by Palestinians inside the Jewish state were eligible for damages from Iran and Syria because they provided "material support" to militant groups Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The court will at a future date determine the amount of the actual damages.

It should be observed that the alleged crime took place in a foreign country, Israel, and the attribution of blame came from Israeli official sources. Also, there was no actual evidence that Syria and Iran were in any way actively involved in planning or directly enabling the claimed attacks, which is why the expression "material support," which is extremely elastic, was used. In this case, both Damascus and Tehran are definitely guilty as charged in recognizing and having contact with the Palestinian resistance organizations though it has never been credibly asserted that they have any influence over their actions. Syria and Iran were, in fact, not represented in the proceedings, a normal practice as neither country has diplomatic representation in the U.S. and the chances of a fair hearing given the existing legislation have proven to be remote.

And one might well ask if the legislation can be used against Israel, with American citizens killed by the Israelis (Rachel Corrie, Furkan Dogan) being able to sue the Jewish state's government for compensation and damages. Nope. U.S. courts have ruled in similar cases that Israel's army and police are not terrorist organizations, nor do they materially support terrorists, so the United States' judicial system has no jurisdiction to try them. That result should surprise no one as the legislation was designed to specifically target Muslims and Muslim groups.

In any event, the current court ruling which might total hundreds of millions of dollars could prove to be difficult to collect due to the fact that both Syria and Iran have little in the way of remaining assets in the U.S. In previous similar suits, most notably in June 2017, a jury deliberated for one day before delivering a guilty verdict against two Iranian foundations for violation of U.S. sanctions, allowing a federal court to authorize the U.S. government seizure of a skyscraper in Midtown Manhattan. It was the largest terrorism-related civil forfeiture in United States history. The presiding judge decided to distribute proceeds from the building's sale, nearly $1 billion, to the families of victims of terrorism, including the September 11th attacks . The court ruled that Iran had some culpability for the 9/11 attacks solely based on its status as a State Department listed state sponsor of terrorism, even though the court could not demonstrate that Iran was in any way directly involved.

A second court case involved Syria, ruling that Damascus was liable for the targeting and killing of an American journalist who was in an active war zone covering the shelling of a rebel held area of Homs in 2012. The court awarded $302.5 million to the family of the journalist, Marie Colvin. In her ruling, Judge Amy Berman Jackson cited "Syria's longstanding policy of violence" seeking "to intimidate journalists" and "suppress dissent." A so-called human rights group funded by the U.S. and other governments called the Center for Justice and Accountability based its argument, as in the case of Iran, on relying on the designation of Damascus as a state sponsor of terrorism . The judge believed that the evidence presented was "credible and convincing."

Another American gift to international jurisprudence has been the Magnitsky Act of 2012, a product of the feel-good enthusiasm of the Barack Obama Administration. It was based on a narrative regarding what went on in Russia under the clueless Boris Yeltsin and his nationalist successor Vladimir Putin that was peddled by one Bill Browder, who many believe to have been a major player in the looting of the former Soviet Union. It was claimed by Browder and his accomplices in the media that the Russian government had been complicit in the arrest, torture and killing of one Sergei Magnitsky, an accountant turned whistleblower working for Browder. Almost every aspect of the story has been challenged, but it was completely bought into by the Congress and White House and led to sanctions on the Russians who were allegedly involved despite Moscow's complaints that the U.S. had no legal right to interfere in its internal affairs relating to a Russian citizen.

Worse still, the Magnitsky Act has been broadened and is now the Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act of 2017. It is being used to sanction and otherwise punish alleged "human rights abusers" in other countries and has a very low bar for establishing credibility. It was most recently used in the Jamal Khashoggi case, in which the U.S. sanctioned the alleged killers of the Saudi dissident journalist even though no one had actually been arrested or convicted of any crime.

The long-established principle that Washington should respect the sovereignty of other states even when it disagrees with their internal or foreign policies has effectively been abandoned. And, as if things were not bad enough, some recent legislation virtually guarantees that in the near future the United States will be doing still more to interfere in and destabilize much of the world. Congress passed and President Trump has signed the Elie Wiesel Genocide and Atrocities Prevention Act , which seeks to improve Washington's response to mass killings. The prevention of genocide and mass murder is now a part of American national security agenda. There will be a Mass Atrocity Task Force and State Department officers will receive training to sensitize them to impending genocide, though presumably the new program will not apply to the Palestinians as the law's namesake never was troubled by their suppression and killing by the state of Israel.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


AnonStarter , says: June 15, 2020 at 7:29 am GMT

Anagram Fun:

ShuratHaDin = I hand u trash

Sean , says: June 15, 2020 at 7:33 am GMT

Iranian explosively formed penetrator IED killed 196 U.S. troops and wounded getting on for a thousand in Iraq. What did they expect a pat on the back, America to forget all about it?

As her writing shows Marie Colvin was sympathetic to all civilians being targeted including Palestinian women being shot by Israeli backed militia snipers.

The long-established principle that Washington should respect the sovereignty of other states even when it disagrees with their internal or foreign policies has effectively been abandoned.

I think the Iranian government obviated any obligation for the US to abide by international law and conventions, by seizing US Embassy personnel and using them as hostages to influence US politics. Very successfully I might add. Iran only supports the Palestinians in order to mitigate Arab Sunni loathing for the Persian Shia. It is self interested, unlike Ms Colvin's reporting.

joe2.5 , says: June 15, 2020 at 10:55 am GMT

..in Iraq. What did they expect a pat on the back, America to forget all about it?

In Iraq, eh? Remind me, was Iraq in Ohio or Pennsylvania? Or some other state under US jurisdiction?

onebornfree , says: Website June 15, 2020 at 11:18 am GMT

" At the same time, it demonstrates its own hypocrisy by claiming sovereign immunity whenever foreigners or even American citizens seek to use the courts to hold it accountable for its many crimes ."

This is all no more than "par for the course" if you understand the true nature of all governments.

This "just" in:

"Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class." Albert J. Nock: https://mises.org/library/our-enemy-state-4

"Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be "reformed"or "improved",simply because of their innate criminal nature." Onebornfree: http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/

"Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure"
Robert LeFevere: https://mises.org/profile/robert-lefevre

"The state lies in all the tongues of good and evil, and whatever it says is lies, and whatever it has, it has stolen, everything it is, is false, it bites with stolen teeth, and it bites often, it is false down to its bowels."~ Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche,

If you never get to understand the true nature of all governments, then you are forever doomed to complain about what it does, seems to me, Mr Giraldi.

Regards, onebornfree

Christophe GJ , says: June 15, 2020 at 11:59 am GMT

Right now (today june 15) there is a strong diplomatic tension between France and the US. Pompeo is calling the International Court of Justice a "Kangaroo court". Speaking of Kangoroo courts, there is more than one around. Especially in the US. When you see the trap in which Bayer Deustchland has fallen in the US Or what Giraldi rightfully points
Don't know why the US elite is so enraged with almoste everyone. Maybe because they are the slaves of zionist billionaires. They are enraged because they are slaves.

Biff , says: June 15, 2020 at 12:35 pm GMT
@joe2.5

New rule:

Do not troll with Shithead Sean

JoaoAlfaiate , says: June 15, 2020 at 1:02 pm GMT

More on Elie and the Palestinians:

https://www.unz.com/article/elie-wiesel-conscience-of-mankind-and-saintly-humanitarian-or-liar-hypocrite-and-terrorist/

Roacheforque , says: Website June 15, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT

Final grasps and misuse of power are probably fairly typical as an empire collapses. The right leadership could turn this ship around and head our nation toward the moral high ground.

But the political will to regain constitutional relevance and produce real leadership seems defeated.

-R

MarkU , says: June 15, 2020 at 1:06 pm GMT
@Sean ndreds, of thousands of Iranians over the following decades. What do the US and UK expect? a pat on the back, Iran to forget all about it?

The US also encouraged and supported Saddam Hussein in the Iran/Iraq war which led to the death of literally millions of Iranians. The US also shot down an Iranian passenger plane killing hundreds without even so much as an apology (they gave the captain of the ship involved a medal for it in fact)

My point is that you can't just start the clock (and the narrative) to suit yourself, you are being ignorant and/or dishonest to do so.

al Muqawama Local 12 , says: June 15, 2020 at 1:17 pm GMT

The word sovereignty in the title gets right to the crux of this issue. The whole world defined sovereignty by consensus at the UN World Summit. Sovereignty is responsibility. And what's responsibility? Formal commitment to the UN Charter, the Rome Statute, and core human rights instruments (the International Bill of Human Rights at a minimum.)

As always, the US signed with fingers crossed, interpreting the summit outcome in bad faith in breach of peremptory international norms. The US is the last holdout or throwback to the pre-modern concept of absolute sovereignty: arbitrary state power. Now if you look closely, the state organ that actually holds arbitrary power is CIA. That is disguised by lots of bribed and blackmailed functionaries and elected officials, but CIA murders them if they step out of line, not excepting puppet 'heads of state' like Kennedy, Ford and Reagan (sometimes they miss but they make their point.)

Now to the whole rest of the world, this CIA regime is not sovereign at all. Then what is it? It is a criminal enterprise based on impunity. The legal relationship between responsible sovereignty, absolute sovereignty, and impunity is very touchy to the CIA regime, which dispatched John Bolton to the UN over Congress' explicit refusal, if you remember. And why? What was Bolton sent to do? He obstructed the Summit Outcome Document with endless Neo-Soviet nyets, submitting 600 amendments until drafters removed the trigger word impunity from one paragraph.

This US totalitarian state considers that its arbitrary rule negates another universal world agreement, the Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Foreign Intervention, A/RES/20/2131, which is in fact state and federal common law in the US.

So how does this legal conundrum get resolved? When the time is right, Russia, China, and Iran point their missiles at a selection of defenseless US military assets and say, Go fuck yourself. It's what the Russians call coercion to peace. We the subject population need to prepare for this eventuality, because the current rebellion includes peace in its demands (ask BAP.) The basis of US impunity is arbitrary use of force at home and abroad. The human right to peace means capitulation for the CIA regime.

jconsley , says: June 15, 2020 at 1:27 pm GMT
@Sean

The reply is pure, direct nonsense. Iran is correct in supporting the Palestinians. The United States supports the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. It supports apartheid and starving Palestinians.

jconsley , says: June 15, 2020 at 1:30 pm GMT

There is no need for moderation. Through U.S. tax dollars to Israel, it supports apartheid and the suffering of Palestinians who have had their land taken from them by the Israelis. Look at map of Palestine today.

Exile , says: June 15, 2020 at 2:55 pm GMT
@Sean tive and hews closely to Jewish interests as expressed & shaped by the Jewish-controlled American media.

The death of 34 servicemen on the USS Liberty is barely a footnote of history, and while the death of St. Floyd is tearing America apart, the brutal killing of American Rachel Corrie in Israel was the butt of jokes among Zionists in the American media.

After all, making some deaths more important than others is a Jewish specialty and control of the media means never having to say you're sorry – while others have to watch their step or face the wrath of the mob.

A123 , says: June 15, 2020 at 3:30 pm GMT
@Sean se they cannot control it. SJW Globalists hate Jewish Israel because they cannot control it.

Preposterous bloviation about the supremacy of supranational bodies is an easily penetrated cover story. The obvious TRUTH -- One religion is intentionally misusing bodies, like the UN/NWO, to assault Christians & Jews that it cannot control.

The U.S. must uphold its sovereign responsibility to oppose oppression and punish the murder of its citizens. If Soleimani wanted to live, he should not have senselessly butchered Americans.

PEACE

AnonStarter , says: June 15, 2020 at 4:38 pm GMT
@Biff

I can certainly understand that sentiment.

I mean, if I want to hear an apologist for the Israeli-American hegemon, I can just subscribe to cable.

But I wouldn't try to enforce any such "rule." Occasionally, he serves as a good foil.

Kouroi , says: June 15, 2020 at 5:38 pm GMT
@Sean

The whole world knows that the US attack on Iraq was a war of aggression not condoned by the UN. Also, the US didn't hide its intentions and put Iran next on the list (the Axis of Terror ). Omitting these little details are very convenient indeed for it enables you to portray the US soldiers as blue eyed UN Peace Keepers attacked by the malignant theocratic regime, when in fact the opposite is true.

The Alarmist , says: June 15, 2020 at 7:14 pm GMT
@Sean but its status as a diplomatic mission may very well have been compromised by practises contrary to Article 41 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relation (Vienna 18 April 1961), in which case the Iranians should have simply asked the US staff to leave. but seizure by the students made that moot.

Think of it as the Iranian Lives Matter protest of 1979. Its a shame the criminals behind the current BLM and AntiFa movements aren't treated as harshly as we treat the Iranians, though now that AntiFa made the list, maybe someone can connect the dots to Soros and relieve him of a few billions.

Number Six , says: June 15, 2020 at 7:19 pm GMT

Isramerica Inc. ceased being a nation state when the Rothschild Reich conquered the American Republic in 1913 by establishing the Rothschild Reserve Bank. Give a Rothschild a gun and he can rob a bank. Give a Rothschild a bank and he can rob a country. What Rothschild Wants, Rothschild Gets. Rothschild wants his Central Banks in all Zionist Globalist international city states. Rothschild wants control of all Zionist Globalist Corporations. Bank of Isramerica,the City of Londonistan, Berlinks, Parisk, Zu Rich . Microsoft, Apple, Amazon all KNEEL before the Rothschild Royal Family of Black Lives Matter. Rothschild wanted WWI, WWII and now wants WWIII and a final solution to enslave the West, a ZODD. The Zionist Owned Digital Dollar to COVID 1984 track, trace and enslave all of Cattlekind. DOWN WITH BIG ZOG!

silviosilver , says: June 15, 2020 at 8:04 pm GMT
@A123

Sorry, no Christian of conscience has any business supporting a premier violator of human rights like the criminal state of Israel.

You're on your own, Shlomo.

anon [110] Disclaimer , says: June 15, 2020 at 8:38 pm GMT
@joe2.5 to support divestment from Iran-oriented investments, in favor or investment in Israel.
This has been the case at least since Bob Casey's campaign to unseat Rick Santorum (aka the
DumpRick campaign). Before Casey's win, he was taken to Israel by members of AIPAC, who returned him to US shores assured that "while Rick was good for Israel, Bob will be even moreso . . ."

Pennsylvania's Jewish governor, Jewish state's attorney, and Jewish transgender director of public health are combining their authorities to impose some of the most stringent, and fraudulent, sets of regulations on the people of Pennsylvania relative to the scamdemic.

A123 , says: June 15, 2020 at 9:05 pm GMT
@The Alarmist hypothetical:

-- Radical U.S. students seize the Iranian Mission to the UN, located in NYC.
-- They demand the turn over of Ayatollah Khameni for his war crimes against the Iranian people.
-- The Trump administration "To Protect Innocent Student Lives" refuses to intervene for ~444 days.

Under your rules, these U.S. Students would be 'private citizens'. Hypothetically, no violation of international law has occurred.

I suspect your hypertechnicality could lead to unintended, though currently hypotheical, outcomes.

PEACE

joe2.5 , says: June 15, 2020 at 9:11 pm GMT
@anon

Precisely. Being that what you said applies equally to all 50 states, non-voting territories, vassalages and messuages, the extraterritorial invasion of Iraq (or anywhere) is on behalf of the same owners of the country.

Anon [187] Disclaimer , says: June 15, 2020 at 9:21 pm GMT
@onebornfree

Dude, just move to Chaz already.

paranoid goy , says: Website June 15, 2020 at 9:36 pm GMT
@Sean

Ooh! Sean used the IED word! How sophisticated. IED, IED IED!!! Would it be better they used nice, professional ordinance, like the Yankees' depleted uranium? Yo' mama raised the afterbirth!
I am sure A123 is wallowing in a puddle of self-extracted sperm by now.
Cute, the previous article I read was about how Zion and its Undeclared Soviets in America plan to use force against the International Criminal Court. IED, I say.
Before Sean and A123 get together and breed more apologists for the satanic childfucking cacastocracy and their queen Hillary. (Deposed by reason of failing clone stability).

al Muqawama Local 12 , says: June 15, 2020 at 9:38 pm GMT

Now this is how R2P actually works.

The African Group (representing the 54 African countries in the United Nations) convened an "Urgent Debate" (technically equivalent to a special session) in the HRC on, basically, US killer cops – on the 17th, the fireworks to be broadcast/archived on http://webtv.un.org/
You can watch the US piss away its international standing.

Racial discrimination comes up of course, because Africans are extra touchy about pigs killing jigs for sport, but violent attacks on your human right of assembly is on the agenda too (UDHR Article 20, state and federal common law; ICCPR Article 21, equivalent to federal statute.) Urgent debate in this charter body mobilizes the treaty bodies and special procedures, which in turn supports propria motu ICC investigation of the US and its Izzie pig torture trainers.

US Human Rights Network*/ACLU ask:

"If you live the United States, please contact foreign embassies in Washington D.C. that are members of the UNHRC, especially U.S. allies, and urge them to support international accountability for police killings in the U.S.

And if you live outside the U.S., please contact your Foreign Ministry or your country's UN Mission in Geneva and let them know that you support the call made by families of victims of police killings in the United States and over 660 groups from 66 countries to mandate an independent Commission of Inquiry. This is the only credible accountability measure that can effectively respond to the current human rights crisis in the United States.

Go over the head of your horseshit government to the world.

*US Human Rights Network
http://www.ushrnetwork.org
[email protected]

paranoid goy , says: Website June 15, 2020 at 9:44 pm GMT
@A123

One day, A123, some sensible person will have the opportunity to take that PEACE emoticon and shove it up your smutty throat. My dog is flapping his hind leg at the joyful thought.
Also, you forget to mention the role your private international terrorist organisation, CIA played in every so-called 'incident' regarding Iran.
The greatest danger of BDS is is the defunding of satanic criminal networks such as USAID, CIA, MOSSAD etc. It's not like Israel has provinces full of industry to 'invest' in.

Antiwar7 , says: June 15, 2020 at 10:17 pm GMT
@Sean

You do know that blaming Iran for that is quite a stretch. The technology involved was not hard to acquire.

And what about the dozens of countries the US government has actively plunged into war, killing, maiming and destroying the lives of millions and millions of people? WTF about that?

AnonStarter , says: June 15, 2020 at 10:19 pm GMT

Mr. Giraldi provides some noteworthy examples of pro-Israel legislation, but the names could be tweaked a bit. Here's some proposed legislation that more honestly reflects the character of our vaunted solons

1. The Israeli Destruction, Invalidation, and Oppression Tenet, also known as IDIOT.

Once ratified, IDIOT would require a congressional representative's public proclamation of pride upon the occasion of any crime committed by Israel. Said proclamation must be no less than 500 words and preempt all other matters pending deliberation. Failure to persuade one's constituency of Israeli virtue warrants a donation of $250,000 to the incumbent's next election opponent.

2. Completing the Ruinous, Execrable Takeover by Israel Now, or CRETIN Act.

This law would defer all civil rights cases ordinarily brought before an American justice to a tribunal of members appointed and officiated by Alan Dershowitz. Appeals may be granted, subject to a display of fealty including, but not limited to, ceding custody of one's firstborn child.

3. The Doing Everything Israel Likes Act, hereinafter referenced as DEVIL.

Under this mandate, electronic bracelets such as those worn by felons subject to in-house arrest will be fastened to every member of congress, their voltage increased in direct correlation to the measure of their recalcitrance against Israel. Perceived acclimation to the accompanying pain will necessitate either castration or sale into slavery. Should the former consequence apply, the gelding will be permitted to preserve remnants of his manhood in a curio cabinet display set up for public viewing in the Capitol Rotunda.

joe2.5 , says: June 15, 2020 at 11:47 pm GMT
@A123

Only a Zionist would have the nerve to write such immortal nonsense while at the same time the assaults on the Russian and Venezuelan embassies, the invention of shadow governments in Venezuela and Bolivia and the Ukraine are occurring.

voicum , says: June 15, 2020 at 11:56 pm GMT
@joe2.5

Don't bother, Sean does not see that far

Biff , says: June 16, 2020 at 1:02 am GMT
@AnonStarter

But I wouldn't try to enforce any such "rule."

Obviously impossible. Look how many troll hits Sean got. People sure do like to make him happy.

Lot , says: June 16, 2020 at 1:23 am GMT

the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must

AnonStarter , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:13 am GMT
@Biff Would be nice, wouldn't it?

We have to account for the fact that there are younger people here, as well as those who have yet to understand the dynamics at play. We also have to give him credit where it's due: he knows how to elicit a response. Yet, in a forum of this nature, that's not too difficult when you're running interference for the powers that be. In that sense, he's no different than "Lot" or that other troll with a numeric handle.

His respondents don't imagine they're going to make him happy. Everybody just thinks they're gonna be the one to whack the mole.

Frankie P , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:15 am GMT

Hat tip to Mefobills.

The solution for the many ills facing the US. This solution WILL entail violence.

From the Byzantines, Ezra Pound derived his no-violent formula for controlling the Jews.
"The answer to the Jewish problem is simple," he said.
"Keep them out of banking, out of education, out of government."
And this is how simple it is.
There is no need to kill the Jews. In fact, every pogrom in history has played into their hands, and has in many instances been cleverly instigated by them.
Get the Jews out of banking and they cannot control the economic life of the community.
Get the Jews out of education and they can not pervert the minds of the young to their subversive doctrines.
Get the Jews out of government and they cannot betray the nation."

Art , says: June 16, 2020 at 5:57 am GMT
@Sean

Oh Sean -- - did you steal A123's Hasbara Central assigned talking points -- come on – be honest for once -- Art

p.s. You are such a stinker (smile).

James Reinhart , says: June 16, 2020 at 6:04 am GMT

THE US IS DEAD & WILL BE NOTHING AFTER THE DEATH OF THE PETRODOLLAR. After Bretton Woods, where the Jews used the US as they did in WWI, it can now be snuffed out as it has no assets, industry and has destroyed every entity of ecological protection and is the biggest user of geoengineering wiping out almost all life and that is the way the Elohim want it. Gomberg map is just a short version of the most valuable state in the world and it's in you damn dollar bill. Those little green nations are the owners of the earth and the top is where the ALL SEEING EYE IS. It's all a fraud but people are as stupid as animals and will deserve what is coming as the next pillar of the destruction of the US from St. John the Devine states. Then a new birth after the deaths of billions. These were put up in 1997 and in 1999, the messiah of Israel stated what would happen to the towers and is in STONE.

mark green , says: June 16, 2020 at 6:35 am GMT

Jewish cohesion, skill, tenacity, and purposefulness has imbued this tribe with unsurpassed status. And power.

International Jewry pilots world banking, orchestrates the manufacture of news and entertainment (and public opinion), while it oversees all US policies in areas that affect the standing of Israel or status of world Jewry. This is no small matter.

Inordinate Jewish power, and its distorting impact on international affairs, has become one of humanity's greatest trials. It is the grand conundrum that we lesser souls are not supposed to notice or ever complain about. This puts us on the road to ruin.

Art , says: June 16, 2020 at 6:43 am GMT
@A123

Hey A123 -- - I see where that little stinker Sean, stole your Hasbara Central talking points. So now all you can produce is this crap -- - I know – what is this world coming too? -- Art

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: June 16, 2020 at 6:49 am GMT
@joe2.5 by the KJV Bible as edited by Samuel Untermyer and his seven or more employees that Untermyer paid the known crook, the known fraudster C. I. Scofield to put his name on so it wouldn't look like a Jewish-edited New Testament edition. He, the worm A123, swoons with joy when the Jews vandalize Christian churches in greater Palestine and shoot Christians, which is happening all the time.

A real nasty piece of work he is, A123, and a real clueless immoral idiot. It's a pity he's too illiterate to read Ron Unz's Oddities Of The Jewish Religion. He'd soon learn how the Jews hate him.

Gorgeous George , says: June 16, 2020 at 6:55 am GMT

Judge jury and executioner. This is why this madness must end. When talking about systemic oppression it is solely outward towards other nations. Such brutality and arrogance. The worlds only chance is turning away from the dollar, Israel and the US.

Art , says: June 16, 2020 at 7:00 am GMT
@Lot

The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must

So Lot -- do you whistle that while you type? -- Art

p.s. Is that a new Jew anthem?

Colin Wright , says: Website June 16, 2020 at 7:47 am GMT
@Sean

'I think the Iranian government obviated any obligation for the US to abide by international law and conventions, by seizing US Embassy personnel and using them as hostages to influence US politics.'

That was over forty years ago. In 1985, what kind of behavior would you have advocated towards Germany?

Colin Wright , says: Website June 16, 2020 at 7:51 am GMT
@A123

' The U.S. must uphold its sovereign responsibility to oppose oppression and punish the murder of its citizens '

So your position is we should declare war on Israel?

Colin Wright , says: Website June 16, 2020 at 7:52 am GMT
@Lot

The mockery in your second image is in poor taste.

Sean , says: June 16, 2020 at 8:01 am GMT
@MarkU , to shooting down an airliner taking off from their own airport. Pauperised and paranoid, Iran is self destructing. They got a pass for limpet mine tanker attacks and drone destruction of a oil refineries in Saudi, so what did they do? Attack a US embassy in Iraq. That is great thinking if they intended to get Trump to use force as he has long been known to have been outraged by the hostage crisis of decades ago. Iran is helping Israel more than the Palestinians. One can only imagine what disaster the Iranian leadership would bring on their country if they had a thermonuclear weapon.
AnonStarter , says: June 16, 2020 at 8:29 am GMT
@AnonStarter

Additional Legislation Pending:

The "Gloat Over Your Broken Environment And Never Surrender" Act, or GOYBEANS Act.

If ratified, this bill would provide 666 million dollars annually for developing public school curricula in partnership with the ADL, SPLC, and NAMBLA. Proposed as a reformatory measure, the GOYBEANS Act was drafted in response to demands from the aforementioned organizations that school curricula be more inclusive of topics such as nurturing gender doubt, learning to properly hate, and the non-existence of Palestinians.

dimples , says: June 16, 2020 at 8:33 am GMT
@Frankie P

Times have moved on. Jews would need to be banned from the McMedia industrial complex, including newspapers, cinema, TV etc. A ban on political donations would obviously be also necessary. They should be free to worship Yahweh and themselves at length without causing harm to others.

Commentator Mike , says: June 16, 2020 at 8:38 am GMT

It should be a lesson learned for the rest of the world: don't keep any assests in the US, or the West for that matter. Isolate from the West, divest from the West, sanction and boycott the West, build your own institutions and link up only to non-Western countries. Don't even bother to visit the West, find other places to vacation in. Anyway the West is being ruined by your own immigrants, so why would you want to spend your holidays among them?

Ghali , says: June 16, 2020 at 8:58 am GMT

We live under a tyrannous U.S.-led Anglo-Zionist fascism which is committing heinous war crimes on behalf of the Jewish Israel and its Jewish supporters.
While there are some similarities between Anglo-Zionist fascism and German Fascism (Nazi Germany), Anglo-Zionist fascism is more injurious, more ruthless and more criminal than Germany under Adolph Hitler.

Icy Blast , says: June 16, 2020 at 9:19 am GMT
@A123

Please define the "Christian U.S." I await your response.

padre , says: June 16, 2020 at 9:21 am GMT
@Sean

It seems to me, you have no idea, what international law is!

animalogic , says: June 16, 2020 at 9:31 am GMT
@Frankie P

Perhaps add Media to that list of "thou shalt nots" ? (I'd expand "banking" to include the entire FIRE sector as well).

onebornfree , says: Website June 16, 2020 at 10:44 am GMT
@Anon aid to Mr Giraldi[post 4]: "If you never get to understand the true nature of all governments, then you are forever doomed to complain about what it does"

Most people [including, of course, all the commie idjuts in "CHAZ"] live in denial of the true nature of the government they complain about all the time, forever unable to see that the state is doing nothing more than being,er, "stately". It would appear that you are no different from them.

"The State Isn't Going Crazy; It's Going State": https://www.aier.org/article/the-state-isnt-going-crazy-its-going-state/

Regards, onebornfree

Herald , says: June 16, 2020 at 10:46 am GMT
@MarkU My point is that you can't just start the clock (and the narrative) to suit yourself, you are being ignorant and/or dishonest to do so.

You are partly right. However, Sean is far from ignorant, though his lack of ignorance is more than matched by his total lack of honesty. Both characteristics of a paid troll.

The zios must see UR, as a real threat to their mythical narrative, judging by the resources they put into defending the undefendable, always going to be an uphill mountain, even for the totally dishonest Sean and his cronies.

Guest0206 , says: June 16, 2020 at 10:46 am GMT
@Sean Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

Very well then! Emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical, real Judaism, would be the self-emancipation of our time.

The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations.

The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews."

Moi , says: June 16, 2020 at 10:57 am GMT
@A123

And a bloody Shalom to you too.

chris , says: June 16, 2020 at 11:11 am GMT
@Roacheforque

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like even the best captain can right this Titanic anymore.

This is a fight to the finish; the left won't be satisfied with 'honorable mention' in this one.

The stuff right now is just the dress rehearsal, but if Trump wins in November it'll be war! (actually it's already started)

Truth3 , says: June 16, 2020 at 11:45 am GMT

Hypocrisy. Jewish in every way, because the Jews can best be defined as Pure Hypocrisy.

Jesus told them to their faces numerous times "Hypocrites!"

Jewish Hypocrisy is the greatest of sins, because it enables all of their criminal ways.

USA Jews manipulating the USA Government to embrace Hypocrisy dhould wake up every other citizen of the USA as to what Jews do to any Host country.

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Robjil , says: June 16, 2020 at 12:04 pm GMT

Shurat HaDin claimed sanctimoniously that it was "bankrupting terror."

This Shurat HaDin is vulture capitalism for Israel interests. Paul Singer, a Jewish Zionist vulture capitalist, does it for Israel world wide.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-4542838/How-vulture-lord-son-make-billions.html

Paul Singer's best known legal battle is a marathon campaign to force Argentina to pay out on bonds he bought at a knockdown price in 2001. He finally succeeded in getting a $2.4 billion payout last year. He has also been accused of profiting at the expense of other impoverished nations, namely Peru and Congo-Brazzaville, a West African country where most live in dire poverty. Singer acquired Congolese government debt though a Cayman Islands vehicle and set about clawing money back through the London courts in a campaign over several years, eventually winning £78 million.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/activist-investor-said-seeking-to-oust-twitter-chief-dorsey/

Singer works for Israel in his world wide looting.

Singer is also the founder of Start-Up Nation Central, a Tel Aviv-based non-profit that seeks to connect business and government leaders around the world with the Israeli people and technologies that can solve their most pressing challenges.

His most recent looting project is to get Twitter.

An activist investor known as a major Republican political supporter wants to wrest control of Twitter from co-founder and CEO Jack Dorsey, US media has reported.

Old and Grumpy , says: June 16, 2020 at 12:32 pm GMT
@Lot

Your map looks straight out of Halford MacKinder's strategy for getting control of his designated heartland. International banking owns both Russia and China. So it would seem the shining city is both antiquated and dangerous. Also it can neither control its borders and its cities . We really need to decommission the biological and nuclear weapons. Finally according to your logic dementia Biden is the appropriated president for a demented USA.

Widenose Privilege , says: June 16, 2020 at 12:33 pm GMT

The Nuremberg trials led to the creation of the International Criminal Court and jurisprudence in matters of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and wars of aggression.

Make laws for everyone and then find ways to get around those laws. It's a never ending Talmudic cycle.

Desert Fox , says: June 16, 2020 at 1:20 pm GMT

The foreign policy of the ZUS has been driven by the zionists since 1913 when they took over control of America with their privately owned FED and IRS and then came the wars and the attack on the USS Liberty and their attack on the WTC on 911, designed to plunge America into destroying the middle east for zionist Israel.

Read the book The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed and Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen, and the Protocols of Zion.

Number Six , says: June 16, 2020 at 1:47 pm GMT
@Guest0206

Christian Zionists are born again Jews. They crawl in the semitic swamp with the crucifiers and Christ deniers.

Meena , says: June 16, 2020 at 2:19 pm GMT
@Sean hat Iran had no hand in US deaths in Iraq

2 Menachem Begin was frightened of being found out that his regime was conspiring against Carter's administration colluding with GOP agents hostage release . He even physically threatened Peres against trying anything on his own behind the knowledge of the Begin regime.

3 I read somewhere that during the very early period of the developing hostage situation Israeli operation inside Iran put the lives of the hostage at risk despite the people on the ground from US agency requesting the Israelis not to do .

WJ , says: June 16, 2020 at 2:21 pm GMT
@Sean

The US overthrew a democratically elected government and installed the torturing Shah.
The US precipitated the Iraq/Iran war and gave Iraq chemical weapons to kill Iranians.
Speaking of shooting down airliners , our fine USN shot an Iranian civilian airliner out of the sky in 1988 killing a few hundred people.
You think any Iranian is losing sleep over the killing of Americans in a country that the US illegally invaded and occupied?

Meena , says: June 16, 2020 at 2:44 pm GMT

Expressing many lies and sanitizng US 's dirty wars on Syria ,even ignoring it– here is NYTimes

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/world/middleeast/syria-economy-assad-makhlouf.html
"The United States will impose sweeping new sanctions this week that could target the businesspeople Mr. al-Assad needs to rebuild his shattered cities.
The Caesar Act, named after a Syrian police photographer who defected with photos of thousands of prisoners tortured and killed in Syrian custody, requires the United States president to sanction anyone who does business with or provides significant support to the Syrian government or its officials."-NYT

It has already imposed sanctions and has done repeatedly . Caesar's photo journalism was the playbook from Lantos Kuwait babies Curveball's begging for jail free asylum in US and from Wolfowitz lies that Saddam was behind 911.

Curmudgeon , says: June 16, 2020 at 3:09 pm GMT
@Frankie P

You have, in a nutshell, given the reason why the JewEssA declared Pound insane and had him locked up.
"Democracy is now currently defined in Europe as a 'country run by Jews,'"
"America is a lunatic asylum."
~ Ezra Pound

As an update, "the West" could be substituted for "Europe".

ivan , says: June 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm GMT
@Sean more damage on the US.

But the impulsive George Bush should not have dragged Iraq into another war, he lied his way into the war. A devout Methodist who is also a war criminal. And who do I see shuffling off in the left corner? Why its the international statesman Henry Kissinger, who advised the Americans that the Ayrabs would not respect anyone who raised the sword but would not bring it down.

But unlike others commenting here I agree that US Army owed Iran big time, for ambushing them when all they wanted was to pacify the Shiites and Sunnis and get the hell out.

BL , says: June 16, 2020 at 3:21 pm GMT
@AnonStarter other . . .

Nonsense. Sovereign states use whatever tools are available to further their geopolitical objectives. To cite one of innumerable examples, China uses everything, including trade, against recognition of Taiwan.

I'm old fashioned, I think the USG should leverage its strengths in pursuit of its geopolitical objectives. Its current dominance of global finance definitely qualifies.

Giraldi has a soft spot for the Palestinians. Fair enough. Though he does them no favors by putting them in the same bucket as Iran in this context. Z-man , says: June 16, 2020 at 3:25 pm GMT

@Art

Art,
You didn't have to put a smile after your accurate Post Script!!! (Big grin)
Z-man

Curmudgeon , says: June 16, 2020 at 3:29 pm GMT
@WJ It is true that the US gave Iraq chemical weapons. However, the US had given Iran chemical weapons previously. As Stephen Pelletiere, who investigated Saddam's alleged gassing at Halajaba for the military, reported, cyanide gas was used to kill the Kurds. Cyanide gas was being used by Iran.

The reality is, and Mr. Giraldi seems reluctant to discuss, that the US (Israeli) strategy in the Middle East is one of perpetual chaos. If it became convenient tomorrow, Iran would be an "ally" and Saudi Arabia an "enemy". As long as the Eretz Yisroel project is active, that will always be the objective.

ANZ , says: June 16, 2020 at 3:31 pm GMT
@Frankie P

The Talmudic faction among them is a ticking time bomb. Why take the risk of keeping the latent virus in a country? Check out the role of the tribe when Moorish armies advanced on Toledo, Spain.

Jews have their own country now. They can non-violently be sent to live amongst their own kin and make their Jewtopia. That is an option that historically wasn't available but since 1948 it's been on the table.

vot tak , says: June 16, 2020 at 3:36 pm GMT

American "law" is a sick joke. The country was a "banana republic" before its zionazi colonization, what it is now is a fully colonized "banana republic" under full control of israeli oligarchical interests. I believe this full control was finalized in the quisling trump regime and that one of the major roles this regime has been tasked to accomplish was finalizing this zionazi/israeli full control. If not the major role they were tasked to accomplish. The slow boiled frog is now dead and fully cooked.

Ace , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:10 pm GMT
@Sean S. and its precious Operation Inherent Resolve have brought in weapons from Bulgaria, Libya, Jordan, Israel, and the U.S., inter alia, to trying to bring down Assad to the tune of some 500+K civilian deaths so I'm missing the point of your moral calculus here. Basically, we wage aggressive war causing massive casualties, destruction, and suffering but you highlight a particular weapon used against U.S. forces who brought the full panoply of surveillance platforms, armor, fighter bombers, artillery, electronic warfare, and infantry to bear in a war based on lies and stupidity. Ours.
geokat62 , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:18 pm GMT
@Art

So Lot -- do you whistle that while you type?

Do you think Lot and his co-religionists were so fond of this maxim during the Third Reich? They were whistling a different tune not so long ago.

According to this Orthodox Jew, the tune may soon change again

Jew warns other Jews to get out of New York before matters get worse from BLM unrest

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Alm_dnmHyR0?feature=oembed

mark green , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:28 pm GMT
@padre unded on fairness, the quest for justice, and equal treatment under law. A key objective would be advancing the common good. Zionism distorts these principles.

Lawfare uses concentrated Jewish wealth to assure that Israeli objectives become more equal under the US law. This subverts fairness as well as the Equal Treatment doctrine.

Organized Jewish cunning tosses aside the common good in favor of what's good for the Jews .

What we get in its place is a premeditated perversion of justice.

Ace , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT
@al Muqawama Local 12 ier sovereign could claim total independence and freedom of action in international relations but his exercise of power was not necessarily whimsical, random, authoritarian, or illegal.

The globalist, open borders, progressive crowd work hard to paint "nationalism" as the supreme evil -- well, after advocacy of white interests -- but it is not the evil they try to make it out to be. As with the E.U., the silk drawer set proceeded to obliterate the nation state and its loathsome "nationalism" which is exactly the healthy antidote to their sought-after collectivist, multicultural nightmare.

Ace , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:37 pm GMT
@A123

Ah, the old "senseless butchery" ploy, 99. I saw it coming a mile away.

Z-man , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:44 pm GMT
@mark green n my illustrious (grin) career with a powerful government agency which was the Vatican City of government agencies back in the day (meaning once you were in you were in an untouchable club, 'a made man') I made my political opinions known to some extent. (Mistake) In the course of my meteoric rise as a junior executive (lol) I may have called out a Jew or two. Whell I was transferred from my cushy office job and put out in the field, like the Red Guards of the Cultural Revolution in CHY-NAH, (lol). It might have been for my calling out of a 'chosen'ite'.
Bill Jones , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:46 pm GMT
@Sean

Thanks for the laugh.

You really are stupid enough to believe that the Iranians were stupid enough to produce so called IED's with "Made in Iran" written on them in English?

Ludwig Watzal , says: Website June 16, 2020 at 4:48 pm GMT

Phil Geraldi demonstrates that the US justice system is a joke and a farce. The court's hand down verdicts like the courts in the former Soviet Union or North Korea do. The alleged support of terrorism by Iran and Syria doesn't hold water. It's purely political and has nothing to do with the rule of law. To argue that the State of Israel doesn't commit acts of terrorism is bananas. Miko Peled, who wrote "The General's Son" https://between-the-lines-ludwig-watzal.blogspot.com/2012/10/miko-peled-generals-son.html stated in a speech on 1 October 2012 in Seattle: The Israeli army is the "best trained, best equipped, best fed terrorist organization in the world." He continued saying: "Their entire purpose is terrorism." The Israeli army commits acts of terror daily against the occupied people of Palestine. Which Zionist law firm will take up their cases against the ruthless Zionist regime in Jerusalem?

A123 , says: June 16, 2020 at 4:55 pm GMT
@geokat62 "> Daily Caller
A123 , says: June 16, 2020 at 5:03 pm GMT
@Ace

Ah, the old "senseless butchery" ploy, 99. I saw it coming a mile away.

Islam does not have 99 ploys. It extremely simple blood cult. The Muslim play book has only 3:

-1- Jihad -- Senseless Butchering of _________ (Jews, Christians, the weak, the innocent )
-2- Taqiyya -- Lie about murders committed in the name of the Anti-Christ Muhammad
-3- Repeat -- Ploy #1 & Ploy #2

PEACE

Ace , says: June 16, 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT
@A123 Soleimani. Since when do garden-variety military tactics and weaponry amount to SB? I've seen a Muslim scientist who argued with some Muslim nut that the earth is in fact round. This despite the authoritative statement of the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia that the Koran says it's flat. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Forgive my obscure reference. "99" was the female lead in the amusing TV spy spoof, "Get Smart." Maxwell Smart always referred to her as "99." She must have been flattered as she later married him. In "real life" as we used to say. With considerable accuracy.

[Jun 14, 2020] Some Answers to the Mystery of the Missing Jews, by Carolyn Yeager and Wilhelm Kriessmann

Jun 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

Introduction: Questions about the official World War Two death figures increasingly mount. Where are the proofs for these numbers? Where are the bodies? Did people just vaporize into thin air–as some believe, going up in smoke through tall chimneys?

Two responsible figures have recently and publicly added their voices to the question of six million Poles murdered (ostensibly by Nazis) between 1939 and 1945.

One is the last communist head of state for Poland from 1985-90, Wojciech Jaruzelski. Speaking to a journalist for Izvestia (Russian daily newspaper), he said, rather tongue-in-cheek, that he cannot understand how the Polish population exploded between 1946 and 1970, and then leveled off to become stagnant from 1990 till today. He humorously remarked that there had to have been "a strong aphrodisiac" to lead to the birth of millions of new Poles because "in the grocery stores there had been only vinegar and millions had died even after the war."

The other is Dr. Otwald Mueller, a well-known German researcher, whose remarkable letter appeared on October 17, 2009 in two American German-language newspapers, the New Yorker Staatszeitung and the California Staatszeitung .

In his letter, Dr. Mueller discusses the six million figure that was widely reported during the September 1st, 2009 conference, held at Gdansk (Danzig), Poland, marking the 70 th Anniversary of the beginning of what was to expand into World War Two.

A translation of his letter appears below, followed by a survey of actual mass graves that have been found and excavated to date that physically reveal flesh-and-bone victims of WWII.

Dr. Mueller writes:

On the occasion of Poland's victory celebration at Danzig/Gdansk, September 1, 2009, you could read in the press the following statements:

1) Die Welt (German newspaper "The World"), September 2, 2009: "?beginning of WW II, 6 million victims in Poland, half of them Jews? ."

2) Daily Gazette (Schenectady, N.Y.), September 2, 2009: " .Poland alone lost 6 million citizens, half of them Jews?"

[The Associated Press (AP) supplies news to nearly all newspapers in the US. That means those news stories were published in nearly all US newspapers.]

3) Catalyst, Journal of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, Number 6, July-August 2009: "Six million Polish citizens were killed in the Holocaust – three million of them were Catholics".

An important chart

There exists an important Polish population chart. It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people, and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million. The difference is of approximately 6 million, or 21% of the total population. The chart seems to prove the statement of "6 million" ? but, on the contrary, it contradicts it.

On page 413 of the book "Poland: It's People, It's Society, It's Culture" by Clifford Barnett, HRAF Press, New Haven, CT 1958, the following figures are marked at chart #1: For the year 1950, a population of 24,533,000; for the year 1955, a population of 27,544,000.

Where are the losses? They turned into gains, because –

For the years 1946 to 1950: a gain of 5.5%. For the years 1950 to 1955: a gain of 15.5%.

That shows in a significant way how Polish history – better Polish fairy tales – works.

Caption: (by author) Between 1931 and 1946 there is a large loss of population, which neatly adds up to six million Polish citizens, or 21%. We must keep in mind that 31% of Poland's population was of non-Polish origin � one million were German, as you can see from names of cities like Stettin, Gruenberg and Breslau. It also included 7 million Ukrainians, Belarusians, Lithuanians, and 3 million Jews. Even so, between the postwar years of 1946 to 1955, the lost population is gained back again – minus 2 million. By 1950, there is a gain of 908,000 in 4 years. And by 1955, an additional gain of 3,011,000 in 5 years! Can these be new births over deaths? No. They are more likely an "adjustment"- a more accurate accounting than was done before. This increase cannot be from Germans, Ukrainians or Lithuanians who returned to Poland, because Poland today is one of the most ethnically homogenous nations in the world. Are they not Poles, who either returned from the East, where they had fled, or never left?

Truth in regard to history
The declaration by the chairman of the German-Polish Bishop's Conference on the occasion of the 70th Anniversary of the beginning of WW II states: "The church will definitely take steps against such inadequate handling of historical truth. We recommend and encourage an intensive dialog which always includes being ready to listen to the other side."

The German Bishop's conference unfortunately did not comply, so far, with its own directives. They did indeed "listen carefully" to their Polish partners and accepted all Polish historical interpretations without ever questioning or correcting. It is an outrageous way to violate historical truth when the author of that chart names the cities of Allenstein, Danzig, Koeslin, Stettin, Gruenberg, Breslau, Oppeln – in the provinces of East Prussia, Pommerania and Silesia – as "Polish cities."

The declaration of the bishop's conferences reads: "Seventy years ago, on September 1, 1939, German forces started their attack against Poland." (Tagespost, 27 August 2009, page 5) Thus the second world-war began. How truthful is that declaration? In reality, Stalin also started his attack against Poland with his Soviet Red Army on September 17, 1939. Hitler and Stalin together started a local war which ended after 6 weeks. Well, Stalin might have just said "Nyet" and Hitler would have stayed home. Stalin was not forced to sign a pact with Hitler. Stalin gained 51% of pre-war Poland.

One violates the truth in dealing with history when one identifies the Germans expelled from the German East provinces as "Polish victims."

The German Bishop's conference should consider it their task to urge the Polish Bishops to see that those Polish historical distortions are corrected.

In pre-war Poland, millions of Ukrainians, White Russians, Lithuanians, Ruthenians and others were living. How did they become Poles? No newspaper report tells the story.

April, 1920 – 22 years before Hitler [invaded the SU] – the Polish Army under Pilsudski started the victorious campaign against the Soviet Union.

On May 7, 1920, General Rydz-Smigly occupied Kiev.

At the peace treaty of Riga, March 21, 1921, Poland gained vast Ukrainian and White Russian territories with a population of about 11 million.

Did anyone have any doubts that the Soviet Union would sooner or later retake those regions? That happened in August 1939 with the Hitler-Stalin pact. Why did the bishops not mention that? Why did the German newspapers, so eagerly interested in historical truth, not report it? All the guilt is loaded on one side; the others carry no guilt at all.

Bush's America attacked Iraq on March 20, 2003. No Third World War started because no one wanted one.

Katyn

Up to June 7, 1943, the Wehrmacht excavated and identified, as well as possible, 4143 Polish officers murdered by the NKVD. (Louis Fitzgibbon: Katyn – A Crime without Parallel, Scribner's Sons, New York 1971)

If it were correct that 3 million Polish Catholics were murdered, as the Catalyst journal states, one must have found in Poland about 750 mass gravesites of the same size during the past 65 years (3,000,000 divided by 4000=750), each with circa 4000 dead. Or 1500 mass gravesites, each with 2000 corpses. It is not known if even one of those mass gravesites has been found. If they would have found only one, journalists from all over the world would have been invited to come and visit. All newspapers would have published terrible pictures and stories for weeks. But did we not indeed find one such gravesite – at Marienburg in East Prussia, now called Malbork by the Poles? Yes, but they were German deaths, and not Poles. Now, one can convincingly say that argument also contradicts the thesis of the 6 million.

A ray of hope on that topic

Maybe the search for historical truth progresses slowly. In the Maerkische Allgemeine Zeitung (German newspaper), August 28, 2009, one can read the following headline: "The numbers-to-date of victims are incorrect – 70 years after the start of the war, scientists are searching for facts." Warsaw: "The numbers of victims of WWII are to a great extent wrong. That is known among specialists and expert historians. Most of the figures are too high: 20 million deaths in the Soviet Union, 6 million deaths in Poland, 2 million among the German expellees. For political reasons, the numbers were increased after the war. Reparation negotiations were already carried on during the war. High loss numbers justified high reparations requests from the Germans–"today we know most of the figures entered into that game then are wrong " and: " the historian Mateusz Gniastowski came to the conclusion that the losses of ethnic Poles had to be corrected from 3 million to 1.5 million ."

Bartoszewski talks
With the headline, "No restitution for Jewish property," the Junge Freiheit (German magazine) of 28 August, 2009, reports the following: "Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, ex-Polish secretary for foreign affairs, vehemently denied any restitution payments for Jewish properties by Poland."

Bartoszewski: "Of the 3.5 million Polish Jews, nearly 2 million lived in the Ukraine and White Russia of today." A very interesting statement – naturally, they became, in October 1939, Soviet citizens and were never again Polish citizens.

The consequence? Regardless what did happen to those people between 1939 and 1945 – whether they survived or were killed – they could not be counted as "Polish victims" but belong to the victim chart of the Soviet Union. Otherwise they are counted twice.

Final conclusion: According to the statement of Bartoszewski alone, the number of the alleged 6 million Polish losses must be reduced already by 3.5 million (1.5+2). The Poles have no right to count German, Jewish, Ukrainian losses as their own. The 6 million number of WW II Polish deaths do not comply with serious historiography. ~

1) Clifford Barnett: "Poland – its people – its society – its culture" HRAF Press. New Haven, Conn. Survey of World Cultures,1958

2) German-Polish declaration of the chairman of the Bishops Conference on occasion of the 70 th anniversary of the beginning of WWII. "The reconciliation between our nations is a gift." (Die Versoehnung zwischen unseren Nationen ist ein Geschenk). Die Tagespost, 27.6.2009. Page 5

3) Gerhard Frey: Antwort an Warschau (response to Warsaw} FZ – Verlag (publisher) 2009

4) Louis FitzGibbon: Katyn–A Crime without Parallel. Scribner's Sons, New York.1971

5) Maerkische Allgemeine ( a German newspaper w 29.8.2009; "Geschichte:Die bisherigen Opferzahlen sind falsch" (History: The present loss figures are wrong)

6) Junge Freiheit (Young Freedom): Keine Entschaedigung fuer juedisches vermoegen (No redemption for Jewish property) 28.8 2009

~End of translated letter ~

How many survivors are counted as both survivors and victims because of the chaotic movement of peoples, boundaries and rulership – giving inflated numbers of victims? This is a common error, which seems to be purposely overlooked.

We have a right to ask where are the remains of the three million Catholics murdered by the German Nazis. The only known mass grave of Poles was the work of the Soviet Red Army, led by the NKVD, in the Katyn Forest in Soviet Russia. Long blamed on Germany, the responsibility for this genocidal act is now placed where it belongs. Ironically, the only mass gravesites found on Polish territory have been of German civilians. There are not even any mass graves of Poles – Catholic or Jewish – on the grounds of the famous concentration camps. No buried ashes either.

Let's take a look at what mass gravesites have been found, and what they contain.

MASS GRAVES IN MARIENBURG CONTAIN GERMAN CIVILIANS

In the previously German city of Marienburg, now named Malbork, Polish workers digging a foundation for a future hotel across from the Marienburg Castle, in October 2008, came upon a mass of human bones and skeletons. By December, about 470 individuals had been found, none of whom could be identified. A German organization dedicated to caring for German war graves sent a representative to attend the digging. By April 2009, the number of dead had climbed to 2000. When further discoveries were ruled out, the dead totaled 2116: 1001 women, 381 men, 377 children and 357 not identified.

At Marienburg, a pit full of human bones, but "We aren't finding any personal objects, no glasses, no gold teeth and above all, no clothing," said Zbigniew Sawicki, Malbork archaeologist.

Other mass graves stemming from World War II have been found around Malbork. In 1996, 178 corpses were discovered on the grounds of Marienberg/Malbork Castle. In 2005, specialists exhumed the bones of 123 more, including five women and six children, from a trench. All are believed to be Germans.

In the case of this latest and largest mass grave (2008), no clothing, eye glasses or gold teeth were found. It thus appears that they were completely stripped before they were killed. The skeletons that were laying on top had bullet holes in their heads, indicating they may have dug the grave and put the dead in it before they themselves were added.

The Germans who did survive were forced to leave the city. The relevant authorities in the newly established Polish district announced proudly on November 3, 1947, that the Marienburg area was "almost 100 percent purged of Germans." (Spiegel, Jan. 23, 2009, "Death in Marienburg: Mystery Surrounds Mass Graves in Polish City.)

On August 17, 2009, 108 coffins with the remains of the 2116 victims of war atrocities which took place in Marienburg in early 1945, were buried elsewhere, at the Volksbund War Memorial Cemetery near the village of Neumarkt, close to the old Hansa city of Stettin, in former Pommerania. The highest dignitaries attending were the German ambassador to Poland and bishops from both nations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8202210.stm

NO CZECHS IN MASS GRAVES

Czechs have not claimed massacres from the war – other than the 173 men of the village of Lidice, who were executed for harboring the murderers of Reichs Protector for Bohemia-Moravia, Reinhard Heydrich, as an example to those who would cooperate with the Czech underground (considered by the Germans as an illegal terrorist organization).

Still, there was great desire to retaliate following the retreat of the German Wehrmacht and the arrival of the Soviet Red Army and NKVD. Postelberg/Polstoloprty and Saav/Zatec, two towns northwest of Prague, saw brutal massacres of at least 2,000 Sudeten Germans in the space of a few days in June 1945.

The largest mass grave contained 500 bodies and had been known since an inquiry into it in 1947. After that, in August 1947, other mass graves were secretly dug up and 763 bodies were removed and cremated. But there still remained more.

Meanwhile, documents in Postoloprty were classified as confidential and disappeared into Interior Ministry archives. Today, a majority of Czech residents in these towns admit the massacre, but do not want to talk about the case and oppose building any memorial structures at the gravesites. ( Der Spiegel , "Czech Town Divided over How to Commemorate 1945 Massacre," Hans Ulrich Stoldt, Nov. 4, 2009)

There was also the Bruenn/Brno Death March, which began late on the night of May 30, and the Aussig/Usti nad Labem Massacre on July 31, 1945–both majority German towns in the same area of Northwestern Bohemia. Basing their decision on the Potsdam Agreement, the Czech "National Committee of Brno" announced the expulsion of 20,000 ethnic Germans, mostly women, children and elderly (the adult men were all POW's), and forced them to march 56 kilometers south to the border of Austria. Once there, however, the Soviet authorities refused to allow them to cross, so they were marched back into internment. Many died and are buried along the way; up to 8000 perished in the terrible conditions before the survivors were released.

The Usti massacre was triggered by an explosion at an ammunition dump. Though the cause of the explosion had not been determined, ethnic Germans were beaten, bayonetted, shot or drowned in the Elbe River, where most still remain in their watery grave.

No mass graves of Jews have ever been found on Czech soil.

SLOVENIA: THE KILLING FIELD OF EUROPE

Over 100,000 people fell victim to summary executions on Slovenian soil immediately after the end of the second world war. These were suspected Nazi collaborators and opponents of communism – murdered by Tito's Yugoslav federal army or by Slovenian civil authorities and the Communist secret police, OZNA.

"The killings that took place here have no comparison in Europe. In two months after the war, more people were killed here than in the four years of war," said Joze Dezman , a historian who heads the government Commission for Concealed Mass Graves.

A task force of the police and state's prosecutor's office has exhumed 12 mass graves and filed two criminal complaints, with no indictments so far, according to the Slovenian Press Agency, March 20, 2008.

A particularly gruesome discovery was the mummified remains of approximately 300 pro-Nazi soldiers from Croatia and Slovenia in a mining shaft in Huda Jama.

"Gassed to death: 300 lime-covered victims of Yugoslavia's communist regime found in mass grave," by Graham Gurrin, 3-11-09, Mail Online, UK.

They are thought to have been killed with gas because there are no visible signs of wounds. Piles of military shoes were found at the entrance. "It seems that the victims had to undress and take off their shoes before they were killed," said Joze Balazic, of the Institute for Forensic Medicine in Ljubljana. The bodies were found in an underground passage some 400 meters from the cave entrance, in good condition because they had been covered in lime and the cave had been hermetically sealed with several walls of concrete separated by layers of barren soil. (Javno, 3-4-09, Translation: Karmen Horvat)

Photos: Unclothed skeletons wearing shoes appear to have died in agony in a mass grave in Huda Jama, Slovenia. Positions indicate there was movement before the victims expired (they were buried alive). ( photos no longer available )

THIS IS WHERE THE WAR WAS ENDING

Slovenia was part of the former Yugoslavia. Dezman said, "These killings took place in Slovenia because this is where the war was ending: this is where the iron curtain was anticipated, this is where refugees found themselves at the end of the war."

He also says that "due to the short time frame, the number of victims, the method of execution and their sheer extent, the reprisal killings of suspected Nazi collaborators and other opponents by Communist authorities in Slovenia could be compared to the biggest crimes of Communism, as well as Nazism, anywhere." (Slovenian Press Agency, March 20, 2008)

Another historian, university professor Mitja Ferenc , has unearthed more than 570 hidden grave sites from World War II. His digs have cracked a psychological barrier in Slovenia and sparked new political debate about the sins of that war, wherein thousands of Germans, Croatians and others on the losing side were killed.

In 1999 he found 1,179 skeletons in a trench near the city of Maribor, where a road by-pass was being constructed.

[The department of highways pressed to continue the road works, and the (left-wing) government in Ljubljana ?had no objections, although very likely, thousands of corpses were still hidden in the trench. Present investigations revealed that there are at least 15,000, possibly more than 20,000 corpses. The tank trench was suitable for mass killings, it was big enough to line up pow�s and civilians, shoot them with machine guns and cover the corpses with earth. Frankfurter Allgemaine, "Slovenia: Massacres after the War," by Karl-Peter Schwarz, 10-16-06. ]

Slovenian forensic experts investigate the site discovered in 1999 by Slovenian highway workers near Maribor, where 1,179 skeletons were found in a World War II-era trench. It's believed up to 20,000 are actually buried along this stretch of roadway.

In 2007 a new dig began nearby in the Tezno Forest – it's believed as many as 15,000 dead lie in this spot of timberland. Military gear indicates they were Croatians and Germans.

"My point is to find out what's out there. Without excavation, there is no way to know ," said Ferenc.

BRITISH DECEIT; STILL NO OFFER OF REGRET

The Queen pictured with Yugoslavian president Josip Tito, front left, in 1978 after hosting him at Buckingham Palace. Behind are Prime Minister Lord Cardiff and Prince Philip. Tito was supported by the British in the war, and its representatives turned thousands of fleeing German, Croat, Slovene and Cossack forces back to Tito's partisans in 1945, knowing they would be killed.

In May 1945, German troops and Croatians were trying to reach Austria in order to surrender to the British rather than Tito's brutal fighters. Tens of thousands of Slovenes, Serbs, Cossacks, Romanians and others joined the frantic flight.

Tamara Griesser-Pecar writes in A people divided. Slovenia 1941-1946. Occupation, Collaboration, Civil War, Revolution (Publisher: Boehlau Verlag, Wien 2003) that all Yugoslavs of German ethnic background were declared outlawed by the "Anti-Fascist Council of National Liberation of Yugoslavia" (AVNOJ). Those who survived the horror of the labor camps were expelled from the country.

She speaks of the 60,000 Croatian soldiers and civilians who were massacred on Slovenian soil. Thousands vanished, to be found in recent times as skeletons bound at the wrist with wires. Not all were German sympathizers, but Catholics and other anti-communists fighting what they considered a civil war.

There were also the 25,000 Cossacks and 2000 Domobranci Slovenians who were part of the German army retreating in early May to the valleys of Kaernten in southern Austria, where they surrendered to the British who, promising they were being sent to Italy, forced them into locked railroad cars that instead went directly to the waiting Soviets in Styria and the Tito partisans at the Austrian border–certain death at the hands of their enemies.

In the Gottschee Horn (Kocevski Rog), 12,000 Slovenians were murdered. In another pit near Ljubljana, Croatians and Cossacks had been murdered – German prisoners were forced to clean out this pit with a "horrible cadaverous smell" and thereafter were murdered themselves.

Mitja Ferenc said Yugoslavia's communist authorities persistently refused to acknowledge the executions had taken place and refused to tell relatives where the bodies were buried. For almost 50 years, people were not allowed to visit the graves. Many of them were destroyed by deliberate explosions or covered by waste. In some places, such as Celje, about 60 km (35 miles) east of Ljubljana, parts of towns were built on them.

"The evidence is being gathered but the fact is that most evidence has been systematically destroyed in the past ," Joze Dezman said.

Typifying the ongoing attitude of the communists is 85-year-old Janez Stanovnik, a partisan fighter as a teenager who held high government positions under communism.

"I'm not proud of what happened in May and June 1945, but I am proud of what the partisans did during the war," he said. "Is this really something another generation has to pay for – or see used for political capital?" (Chicago Tribune, "Wartime heroes, sinful secrets," Christine Spolar, Jan. 29, 2008)

IN UKRAINE, JEWS HUNT FOR BODIES

Sparked by all these discoveries, Jewish groups have undertaken to discover their own mass graves in the Ukraine and Russia, which they claim to be the "killing fields" of World War II.

But for all the hundreds of thousands of Jews who are claimed to have been murdered here by the Nazi Einsatzgruppen, no remains have shown up in any large numbers. [The Einsatzgruppen were special SS task forces whose job was to protect the German fighting forces from behind-the-front attacks by the local population and communist partisan fighters.]

But it is suspicious that little to no excavation is taking place to verify the number of bodies or to identify whether they are Jews or not, or how they were killed. The search parties and excavation teams are made up entirely of Jews, without government or neutral parties involved.

For instance, according to an article at Y-Net News, an Israel-based internet site, published Sept. 8, 2006, a secret private mission called "Kaddish for Ukraine's Jews," chaired by Yehuda Meshi Zahav, began looking for mass graves of Jews massacred during the Second World War. This mission was initiated by the Jewish Congress and French historian/priest Patrick DesBois (author of Holocaust by Bullets ), with the help and funding of the national holocaust museums in Paris and Washington D.C.

Around Sept. 1, 2006, this mission uncovered what they say are hundreds of Jewish skeletons in a Ukrainian forest next to the city of Lvov.

They say they used metal detectors to detect bullets. When the metal detectors went off, they began digging and, at two meters down, sculls and skeletons began to surface. They say they counted hundreds and most were children . They say they recovered German-manufactured bullets marked with the years 1939 and 1941.

This "find" has been widely publicized in world media as a "holocaust" mass grave, yet no tests have proven the remains to be Jewish, or the perpetrators to be Germans. It is assumed.

We know the Soviets killed thousands of Ukrainian and Polish anti-communist nationalists before retreating from this area in 1941. There were also terrible massacres of Poles by Ukrainians and Ukrainians by Poles before and especially during WWII (over the disputed region of Volhynia) 1 . After the war, there were fights between Ukrainians and Russians in the part of Ukraine that Russia got from Poland.

The Kaddish delegation has estimated that 1800 Jews were buried here–even though they did not excavate and count all the bones. The Ukrainian authorities have agreed to recognize the area as a Jewish burial site , which means the bones can stay where they are. The Kaddish delegation performed a religious ceremony and erected a memorial monument in a matter of two weeks after the announcement of the discovery was made! This kind of haste is usually the mark of a desire for non-investigation.

JEWS GET CONTROL OF ANOTHER GRAVESITE

Another site that has received a great deal of attention is Gvozdavka, a village in southern Ukraine, near Odessa, where another group of rabbis insist thousands of Jews are buried. It was found by chance in the spring of 2007 when workers digging to lay gas pipelines discovered human bones.

As soon as the bones were discovered, the Jewish community in Odessa requested the authorities to cease construction work.

Israeli rabbis "help" to excavate a mass grave they claim to have discovered in Ukraine. (Reuters photo)

According to a story in Haaretz, June 6, 2007, "Mass WWII-era Jewish grave found near Odessa," Rabbi Abraham Wolf announced that the authorities had also agreed to give the Jewish community ownership of the land so it could build a monument commemorating the victims.

Odessa chief rabbi Shlomo Baksht revealed their plans to fence off the site and erect a monument to the victims that same year!

In a follow-up story 8 days later in Haaretz (June 14, 2007, "Israeli Rabbis help excavate Holocaust-era mass grave" , it's reported that a dozen rabbis were on the scene – 3 of whom were Holocaust scholars from Israel, others from the U.S. – and "spent several hours hunting for bones, which they immediately shoveled back into the ground."

In the follow up article, it's reported that Vera Kryzhanivska, who heads the village council, said it would soon discuss a request to hand over control of the meadow to Jewish groups.

Some Jewish community leaders complained that villagers didn't show enough respect for the dead. "How could people just walk past the grave and do nothing?" said Ilia Levitas, the head of Ukraine's Jewish Council. "Where is their Christian mercy?"

* * *

Since these two finds in 2006 and 2007, there have been no more claims of mass graves of Jews. As we know, there are no substantial remains of either bodies or ashes discovered at the concentration camp sites of Treblinka, Belzec, Sorbibor, Chelmo or Auschwitz-Birkenau, all in Poland. The killing-by-bullets of Jews that supposedly took place in the Ukraine is not showing up in any new mass graves, even though Father Patrick DesBois continues to search. He finds a few bodies here and there.

What are we to think? When it comes to Germans and their allies massacred and thrown into pits, we have masses of evidence compiled by official government agencies, even when they are resistant to do so. When it comes to Poles, Ukrainians and other Slavic ethnic groups, we don't find them buried in mass graves by the Nazis. When it comes to Jews, we have only the word of Jewish delegations that thousands of Jews are buried in mass graves that they refuse to excavate.

As Mitja Ferenc, the Slovenian history professor, remarked of his own discoveries: "Without excavation, there is no way to know."~

1) "The Soviets, having enlarged Soviet Ukraine to the west, deported tens of thousands of the Volhynian elites, mostly Poles, to Siberia and Kazakhstan. These actions ceased only when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941." And "The 1943 decision of Ukrainian nationalists to cleanse (Volhynian Poles) was [ ] based upon news of the Soviet victory at Stalingrad" (with the expectation of the end of German occupation). "Ukrainian partisans killed about fifty thousand Volhynian Poles and forced tens of thousands more to flee in 1943." Later the Poles turned the tables on the Ukrainians. (From "The Causes of Ukrainian-Polish Ethnic Cleansing 1943," Timothy Snyder, Yale University, 2003)


Wally , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 4:51 am GMT

Well done, Carolyn Yeager.

– A classic example of what Carolyn Yeager writes about, here's all that was found at Sobibor, where 250,000 Jew remains are said to exist. Of these there is no proof of even the age of the skeletons, whether they were even Jews, whether they were even murdered. Yep, the "holocaust" narrative is that bogus.


– Sobibor, mass grave where 250,000 Jew remains are said to exist

much more at:
Simple question: What happened to the people who were sent to the camps?: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13204
and posted at: unz.com :
https://www.unz.com/article/babi-yar/ -- see my comment # 177
and:
https://www.unz.com/?s=graf&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

And then there's this desperate tactic:

The Big False Excuse: 'excavation & exhumation of Jew remains "forbidden" / But they're not :
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6817

"Jewish Burial Law" as fake excuse' : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8997

'First UK Burial for Holocaust Victims – No Autopsy': https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12231

No alleged human remains of millions in allegedly known locations to see, no 'holocaust'.

utu , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:25 am GMT
Lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Lack of Jewish mass graves which nobody is really looking for because it is not really permitted, ostensively for religion reasons, can not give the answer to the missing Jews providing that there is such a question. Jews are missing only in the Holocaust deniers' minds. Normal people will agree that the official number of 6,000,000 is might be too high and that rather three to four million Jews died during WWII and they are not missing because they are dead.

Mystery of the Missing Americans

There are 2.6M deaths per year in the US. 50% (1.3M) are cremated. 1/3 of ashes are buried at cemeteries, 1/3 are kept at home and 1/3 are scattered. This means that every year in the US ashes of 430k people are scattered into environment. The 1/3 kept at homes will be scattered into the environment sooner or later so the number of scattered ashes will be circa 800k per year. In 5 years it is 4M people. In 20 years it 16M people. In 40 years it is 32M people.

In last 40 years 32M people vanished w/o a trace. How would you go about proving it to Holocaust deniers that 32M people in American died and that they were not teleported to Venus? There are no graves. No exhumations. Nobody even try to find the answer. Wally of CODOH would not accept any documentation because he would claim it was forged. He would not accept any witness statement because he would claim that all so-called witnesses lie. The claim that 32M Americans in last 40 years died and were cremated can't be proven. Wally must be right that 32M of Americans were teleported to Venus.

Furthermore, can you imagine the absurdity of cremations? The conspirators want us to believe that they cremate the corpses while charging for shaving the corpses and applying make up and dressing them up in their Sunday's best. Why would they do it if they allegedly cremate the bodies and plan to throw away the ashes? That does not make sense. For some reason they want them bodies to look good on Venus.

Otoh the question of missing Germans or the question of atrocities committed against Germans can be
tackled by searching mass graves. There is no prohibition against excavating of non Jewish graves. For example why nobody tried to confirm James Bacque's hypothesis by searching sites of Eisenhower's POW camps in Germany? If one million or more died there, the graves should be easy to find. Say, 1,000 graves with 1,000 bodies each. Find at least one.

Al Liguori , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:26 am GMT
The Jews have a long Talmudic tradition of lying victimhood.

Consider the typically ridiculous self-reports of victimhood in tractate Gittin 57b of the Torah, the 4 BILLION (yes, BILLION) Jews killed by the Romans [Gittin 57b claims Vespasian killed "four hundred thousand myriads" = 400,000 x 10,000 = 4 BILLION] and the 64 MILLION Jewish children skewered and burned in scrolls by the Romans in one city alone [Gittin 58a claims "400 synagogues" each with "400 teachers" and "400 pupils" for each teacher" = 400 x 400 x 400 = 64 million]. http://www.halakhah.com/gittin/gittin_57.html#PARTb http://www.halakhah.com/gittin/gittin_58.html

Truly as Jesus said, children of the Father of Lies and Murder. John 8:44

Louis Hissink , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:35 am GMT
This article seems eerily similar to Gunnar Heinsohn's revision of 1st millennium history based on stratigraphy – no layers for a historical period of civilization, then that history is false or fake. 700 phantom years are missing and the collapse of the Roman period seems to thus have occurred circa 930 AD, and not 700 years before.

Given the sensitivity of the topic in this article, I limit comment to the idea that proscriptive dogma is invariably used to bury facts and to keep them buried. Whether proscriptive dogma is used in ignorance based on false beliefs, or is official policy remains moot. But propaganda 101 is to always accuse your opponents of your own crimes.

Without excavation we will indeed never know.

utu , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:41 am GMT
How many ethnic Poles died?

This Google translate from

"Juedische Allgemeine": the destruction of Poles as a nation was never planned
https://www.dw.com/pl/juedische-allgemeine-zagłada-polaków-jako-narodu-nigdy-nie-była-planowana/a-50041291
Lesser cites numbers given by historians Feliks Tych and Mateusz Gniazdowski, according to which in the occupied territories Germans murdered over 90 percent of Polish Jews and from five to seven percent of ethnic Poles. "In absolute numbers, they were three million Jews and about 1.4 million ethnic Poles," he writes. In 1947, at the behest of Jakub Berman, a member of the PZPR Central Committee Political Bureau, the number of victims "was arbitrarily rounded to 6 million or 22 percent of the pre-war population. The idea was that Polish Christians would not feel discriminated against as victims of Polish Jews. Berman also hoped that this operation would stop the venomous anti-Semitism in the country, "writes the author.

marylinm , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:17 am GMT
Got that, you killed nobody. You only brought democracy to every nation you invaded. But you killed my father, you bastards. F U, sickos.
Reger , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:29 am GMT
There are many geographical inaccuracies in this article – eg the author thinks that Bruenn is near Aussig. They seem to have a very sketchy understanding of the ethnic fabric of Eastern Europe both before and after WWII and I would therefore caution anyone to accept their findings or conclusions.
Mustapha Mond , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:08 am GMT
"When it comes to Jews, we have only the word of Jewish delegations that thousands of Jews are buried in mass graves that they refuse to excavate."

Well, story telling and theatrical exaggeration seems to be in their blood, especially the latter.

It's even commemorated in a song about their most important empire, Hollywood:

"Hooray for Hollywood! Where you're 'terrific' if you're even good . "

Take the exaggerations with a grain (or truckload) of salt, and let's all just pray the horrors visited upon the hapless Europeans (and everyone else) during WW2 are never repeated

GMC , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:42 am GMT
The War on Knowledge , Truth and Common Sense will go on until the honest researchers get finished with their work. But the Enemies, that wish No sharing of knowledge, truth etc. are many and work very hard at spreading the lies and cover-ups. If the bullets found in these trenches are known to be German made ,plus the date of origin, then maybe we could be told what Pharma company supplied the gaz for all the other proclaimed deaths – the dates and where the chemicals were produced , would be appreciated – also. I thought it was a very good article.
another anon , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:03 am GMT
This is the ultimate black pill

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-- zillajinjer (@zillajinjer) June 11, 2020

Włodzimierz , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:05 am GMT
If it were correct that 3 million Polish Catholics were murdered, as the Catalyst journal states, one must have found in Poland about 750 mass gravesites of the same size during the past 65 years (3,000,000 divided by 4000=750), each with circa 4000 dead. Or 1500 mass gravesites, each with 2000 corpses.

It is not known if even one of those mass gravesites has been found

Really?

I have found one
http://lasszpegawski.pl/in-english/

At the end of 1944, the Germans, obliterating the crime, burned most of the corpses . In the Szpęgawski Forest, as many as 7,000 people could have died, approximately 2400 names were established. In the cemetery there are 32 mass graves in one complex and 7 graves 500-1000 m away.

White Monkey , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:06 am GMT
Slightly off topic,but also interesting:After the war,13.3 million Germans were deported from Poland,Chekoslovakia and Hungary,but only 7.3 million actually arrived in Germany,mostly women,children and old people.6 million Germans had disappeared.Many of those were sent to Russia for forced labour.
-first post-war German chancellor Konrad Adenauer in a speech in Bern,Switzerland,March 23,1949.
Phil the Fluter , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:12 am GMT
A very informative article. It increasingly looks as though a holocaust was perpetrated against the Germans and not the Jews.
Grahamsno(G64) , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:01 am GMT
This has to be one of the most risible, amateurish rubbish masquerading as Holocaust revisionism.

The title says -Some Answers to the Mystery of the "Missing Jews" – and whoa 3/4″s of the article is about post WW2 Communist atrocities, did you think that the Stalin & Beria combine would spare anybody associated with the Nazis when they swept East Europe? And the most Hilarious bit is that this dogs puke of an article completely ignores the AR camps, how can you give answers about the missing Jews while ignoring the AR camps.

Listen if you can't answer about what happened to those 'Missing Jews' of the AR camps kindly shut up.

Shame on you Ron for publishing such amateur Rubbish here, if you want to go full Revisionist publish Carlo Mattogno or Rudolf or some professional.

Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:03 am GMT
"Jewish groups have undertaken to discover their own mass graves in the Ukraine and Russia, which they claim to be the "killing fields" of World War II."

What they're digging up is probably the remains of the millions of Ukrainians the Bolshevik Jews murdered through forced famine in 1932 and the millions of Russian Christians they slaughtered starting in 1917. Historical irony indeed.

There is no definitive history. More will come to light as research continues, or should I say as long as it is allowed to continue?

Truth3 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:09 am GMT
Jewish lies number in the trillions.

Jewish fraud is centered on six million.

padre , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:17 am GMT
In other words, Nazis were actually a good guys, while Soviet, Yugoslav communists were the villains?You are counting Poles, Jews and Checks, while forgetting to count all the others, like Gypsies, Russians, Serbs and other Slavs?
GeeBee , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:28 am GMT
What an extraordinary article. Why are these facts not generally known? Yes, I am joking. History is of course always written by the victors. And the Jews always seem to win
Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:56 am GMT
I don't understand why Jewish groups and their rabbis were given control of two mass grave sites. Did the civil authorities conspire with the Jews to pretend the bodies were of Jews?

Or did the civil authorities know that if bodies were found when laying a pipeline that they were certainly Jewish bodies?

Although mass graves of non-Jews were known to have been in those regions?

If skeletons are found I guess it's hard by examining them to know they were Jews. But why was it assumed that they were?

And when the Jews wanted the pipeline work stopped, I suppose it would have stopped simply because there were bodies there, whether Jewish or not.

I may have failed to understand the article. Or perhaps it omits relevant information.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:14 am GMT
@Wally Was it known that the bodies were of people who died during the war? That the skeletons were not centuries old?
HammerJack , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:15 am GMT
@utu

Furthermore, can you imagine the absurdity of cremations?

Indeed, you had better struggle mightily, because in the year 2020 we have learned that all of the crematories in Italy combined were unable to dispose of more than a few hundred bodies per week. Struggle!

Reger , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:16 am GMT
@Wally Here's a suggestion; if you like poetry and read German, try Gertrud Kolmar. If you like opera. read about Ottilie Metzger-Lattermann (one of the Kaiser's favorite singers). If you like classical music, follow the career of Viktor Ullmann. Just these three for a start so you can find out how peacefully they died. However, I have a strong feeling you would prefer to deal in millions (or the lack of) instead of individual fates.
Gordo , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:18 am GMT
It's now possible to determine quite closely ethnicity from a skeleton.

Possibly even use that to identify living relatives.

So many mysteries will yield to science over the next few years.

Dumbo , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:23 am GMT
But let's see, how many Germans died at the Dresden bombings? None, because we can't find their graves to count? The first victim of war is truth, numbers are almost always wrong or difficult to estimate. Propaganda from one side is no different than propaganda for the other side.
gfhändel , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:42 am GMT
Brno is on the opposite (southwestern) side of Czechia from Ústí nad Labem, in Moravia.
Hegar , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:47 am GMT
Thank you for this information. It is astonishing how much people aren't allowed to know. Mass graves of Germans murdered by the communists, and many tens of thousands of Slovenians, Croats and others who fought the communists. But socialist school teachers in Europe harp endlessly about "gassed Jews".

Jews get control of found graves and immediately erect fences and memorials, without excavation, declaring them Jews. "Proof that Jews were killed!" No mass graves of Jews ever found at any of the concentration camps. The "einsatzgruppen" have been blamed for killing Jews – of course the Jews hated them, as they were the ones tasked with beating down communist attacks on German forces behind the front army.

Unz Review should concentrate on these factual stories, rather than Marxist fantasies by people like "Eric Striker," who claims that "the Soviet Union would have worked if it had been Germans instead of Slavs," and constantly makes excuses for socialists while making sure you concentrate your anger about Black riots on conservatives. Unz Review should clean the ranks.

JohnPlywood , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:55 am GMT
@Reger This article (like the comment section) is full of retarded trash. The Holocaust happened, and the number of brutally murdered people has likely been officially under estimated, and the only people denying the Holocaust are those with a serious learning disability and poor attention span. I also suspect many of the people in the comment section (such as GeeBee) are coping Jewish individuals.
Emily , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 12:10 pm GMT
Not just the missing jewish remains – misleading and skewing.
There is another nasty double standard re the victims of the well known German and other nazi aligned Labour (concentration) camps.
How many on here have heard of Jasenovac?
It was a death camp – a real death camp.
So vile even the gestapo were sickened.
It was a Nazi Croatian mass murder camp where hundreds of thousands of allied Serbs, gypsies and others died, suffering appalling torture and murder.
The Serbs – who NATO/US/UK mass murdered and bombed back to the stonage some 25 years ago – died valiantly and like flies – tying up whole divisions of the Germans.
In gratitude and on behalf of the islamic fundamentalist Saudi leaning KLA we repaid this debt illegally attacked the Serbs – the only ethnic cleansing being some 700,000 Serb refugees driven from their ancestral homes in the Krajina (20,000 more murdered because they couldn't leave fast enough), over a quarter of a million of them out of their ancestral homeland of Kosovo and many from Bosnia and other parts.
700,000 who lost it all.
Reparations due I think.
All illegal and to give radical islam a base in Southern Europe and build a massive USA base – Camp Bondsteel.
Back to Jasenovac .
This was the most deadly and brutal camp of all.
Heard of it.
NO.
Few Jrewish victims so written out of history.
Just as have been the millions of non jews killed in the other camps.
The disabled etc – many catholics.
All written out as only Jews can be the victims.
Here are just a few of the links to Jasenovac.
And ask yourself why the silence on the suffering of the Serbians – huge numbers dying fighting for we the allies – not as some groups, not fighting at all but profiteering.
https://jasenovac.org/what-was-jasenovac/
https://www.neweurope.eu/article/jasenovac-the-forgotten-extermination-camp-of-the-balkans/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0252563/
So why the silence – only one holocaust allowed?.
And Serbs are not members of that club.
And how many know that the Serbs have been completely vindicated and Milosevic declared an innocent man of war crimes .
Murdered non the less in his prison
http://johnpilger.com/articles/provoking-nuclear-war-by-media
Commentator Mike , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 12:28 pm GMT
@HammerJack Italians must be incompetent. India cremates over six million each year.
Biff , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 12:37 pm GMT
@Dumbo

But let's see, how many Germans died at the Dresden bombings?

Funny you should ask. Encyclopedia Britannica says 135,000
https://www.britannica.com/event/bombing-of-Dresden

Wikipropaganda says 25,000 tops.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

My guess is all that got killed died.

maz10 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 12:40 pm GMT
Let me start with this:

One is the last communist head of state for Poland from 1985-90, Wojciech Jaruzelski. Speaking to a journalist of Izvestia (Russian daily newspaper), he said, rather tongue-in-cheek, that he cannot understand how the Polish population exploded between 1946 and 1970, and then leveled off to become stagnant from 1990 till today. He humorously remarked that there had to have been "a strong aphrodisiac" to lead to the birth of millions of new Poles because "in the grocery stores there had been only vinegar and millions had died even after the war."

What the late General is referring to is the common trope that during communism (actually socialism but I will leave that for another time) there was only 'musztarda i ocet' that is mustard and vinegar on store shelves. It was a common accusation against the system as a whole and Jaruzelski personally since he was an important part of the said system. On more than one occasion he defended himself and his times by pointing out – sometimes in a tongue-in -cheek fashion as in the quoted citation – that it could have not been so bad if Poland's population growth is anything to go by (he sometimes pointed out other advances but again I do not want to side-track here) as Poland indeed experienced a demographic explosion. Of course this resulted in many problems, for example despite a program of massive apartment block building – in virtually every Polish city and town you will see rows and rows of such apartment blocks standing – there was a chronic housing shortage.

Thus with citing Gen. Jaruzelski's remarks in the context of Polish and Jewish victims of German atrocities Ms. Yeager and her sidekick managed to make it to the very top of Unz review's comic relief category. My sincere congratulations.

That was the funny part and here comes the more serious one.

Namely Ms. Yeager and her sidekick were kind enough to write: 'The only known mass grave of Poles was the work of the Soviet Red Army, led by the NKVD, in the Katyn Forest in Soviet Russia.'

Let me just point out, that mass graves with Polish victims of German mass executions were located among other places at:

Palimiry, Las Sękocinski, Las kabacki, Laski and many, many others locations such as for example Ponary (outside of Poland's post WW II borders in present-day Lithuania).

I do not know if Ms. Yeager and her sidekick are that ignorant in regard to the topic they write about or if they deliberately lie, or alternatively there is some other explanation – that however is of secondary importance. What is of primary importance is that what they wrote is not factually correct.

One could go on dissecting Ms. Yeager's and her sidekick's writings however I have better things to do on Sunday. Yet the above should suffice to put parts of their 'work' into the category of comedies while others into that of falsities* – that in turn weighs heavily on what to make of the rest.

*With one caveat though: hundreds of years of Drang nach Osten were indeed reversed in a very short time at the end of WW II, sometimes in a brutal way. Thus there IS some truth in what Ms. Yeager and her sidekick produced, this being in the category of an exception which confirms the rule in regard to the rest.

GeeBee , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT
@JohnPlywood What is a 'coping Jewish individual' exactly? You are of course at liberty to suspect me of being anything you like. But none of your suspecting will ever change me from being anything other than a proud, thoroughbred Yorkshire Anglo-Saxon, who can trace both parents' lines back for centuries with no trace of anything outside of our own fine, yeoman, Anglo-Saxon bloodline.

My admittedly unusual 'take' on twentieth-century history arose from making a closer study of it than I had hitherto stirred myself so to do, in the wake of having been obliged to take early retirement at a convenient moment, in that it coincided with the appearance of much hitherto unavailable information thanks to the burgeoning internet era. My prior studies had by no means been trivial: I had taken modules in both War Studies and International Affairs to degree standard while at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.

At all events, I believe my current position to reflect a good deal more of the truth than is contained in the 'official' history, and I can assure you that my epiphany in this regard occasioned me the very keenest mental anguish at first. Not to put too fine a point on it, I found my life-long beliefs turned upside down. Not at all a welcome development, but one that intellectual honesty compelled me to accept.

Anonymous [506] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:06 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse Don't be so cynical. Because the Jews acting collectively have never and can never do anything wrong, it follows that any criticism of their collective behavior anywhere and at any time, whether today or throughout history, is hate speech.

We also know from Freudian science that it arises from envy and that paranoid guilt-projection plays no part in their condemnation of the Other. Laws to that effect throughout Europe also provide scientific evidence that Jews never lie and, therefore, their narratives of events taking place outside the laws of nature and not subject to rules of logic or scientific method must be true.

So, Mr. Holocaust doubter, just maybe the rabbis, reaching into the pits, have discovered miraculously intact passports, photos, and birth certificates as before, using the forensic skills their agents displayed in the ashes of the Trade Center and Pentagon to locate paper miraculously immune from fire, water, and the forces of explosion sufficient to render concrete into dust.

Robjil , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:12 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse

And when the Jews wanted the pipeline work stopped, I suppose it would have stopped simply because there were bodies there, whether Jewish or not.

I may have failed to understand the article. Or perhaps it omits relevant information.

The omitted info is the following:

Ukraine is a US/Israel controlled nation since 2014.

Nuland's, a Jewish Zionist, world famous battle cry begin the Zionist coup and Zio rule of Ukraine with these infamous words "F–k the EU."Poroshenko the first president of this Zion colony was half Jewish.The second president Zelensky is Jewish.The Zionists in control of this US/Israel colony are even afraid Shabbos Goy to take the presidency of their new colony.

trickster , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:40 pm GMT
@HammerJack It is true that India cremates millions per year, that is their tradition. However to attend a Hindu cremation and to observe, really observe the logistics required to burn ONE body is to realize the impossibility of German logistics to effectively do away with 6 million in addition to fighting a war against multiple opponents.

One need not have a Doctorate in Maths. Just pick a modern City with 3 million inhabitants, visit it and drive around it extensively and now imagine you will completely decimate TWO (2) cities like it by killing and burning every single human being in them. The infrastructure, transportation, human resources and material logistics required for such a task are horrendous. At the same time you are fighting a major war against several nations, 2 with with almost unlimited manpower and industrial capacity. Toward the end of the war Germany was fighting on 3 fronts, being bombed to smithereens and also battling partisans in several countries AND also running their extermination program ??

It is one thing for 6 million families in India to cremate 6 million relatives. I find it hard to believe that the staff in all the concentration camps would be up to this numerical task AND make the bones and ashes of 6 million disappear completely.

I love a good ghost story but my powers of belief have their limit.

Saggy , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:42 pm GMT
@Grahamsno(G64)

Listen if you can't answer about what happened to those 'Missing Jews' of the AR camps kindly shut up.

We know what happened to the Jews in the AR camps, they were burned. And we have proof Action 1005 was led by Paul Blobel who confessed.

We even know how he did it from his confession https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/obliterating-the-traces-of-bodies-of-jews-killed-by-the-einsatzgruppen-june-1947

During my visit in August I myself observed the burning of bodies in a mass grave near Kiev. This grave was about 55 m. long, 3 m. wide and 2½ m. deep. After the top had been removed the bodies were covered with inflammable material and ignited. It took about two days until the grave burned down to the bottom. I myself observed that the fire had glowed down to the bottom. After that the grave was filled in and the traces were now practically obliterated.

The holohoax is a collection of preposterous lies see ..
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ul72dV4SbAoh/

trickster , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:44 pm GMT
@marylinm It is dangerous to not take your meds ! Sounds like you might need to increase the doseage. Please see your Doctor immediately.
peacewalker , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 1:51 pm GMT
I just don't know where to start. Whole "article" is such a BS. OK, let's start from beginning then:

Two responsible figures have recently and publicly added their voices to the question of six million Poles murdered (ostensibly by Nazis) between 1939 and 1945.

"One is the last communist head of state for Poland from 1985-90, Wojciech Jaruzelski ( )"

LOL.

General Wojciech Jaruzelski. Head of military junta that took over power from Party in 1982, responsible for murdering dozens of people. Cold blood mass murderer, aparatchik, liar and Soviet hardliner. Such a perfect "responsible figure"! And delicious cherry on top – he most likely was "wtornik" too (it's margin note, I can explain meaning of this term and whole story but only if somebody will be genuinly interested). During inteview with Soviet, communist, cenzored newspaper. Said something. Wow! Groundbreaking news. Let's rewrite all history books.

The other is Dr. Otwald Mueller, a well-known German researcher.

Right

Let's check this "researcher".

"Die Welt (German newspaper "The World"), September 2, 2009: "beginning of WW II, 6 million victims in Poland, half of them Jews ."

2) Daily Gazette (Schenectady, N.Y.), September 2, 2009: " .Poland alone lost 6 million citizens, half of them Jews" ( )

An important chart

There exists an important Polish population chart. It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people, and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million."

SO HE IS WELL-KNOWN GERMAN RESERCHER?

And his scientic research regarding even basic facts are based on bloody TABLOIDS? GERMAN TABLOIDS? And he can not even "research" population chart for Poland?

ROTFL is not enough.

Are you mocking and insulting all Poles and Polish citizens who died during WWII? Or perhaps all world's scientists and reserchers including half-baked and fully stoned first year history course students? Do you think all your readers are complete idiots?

Facts: Republic of Poland population in 1938: Roughly 35 millions. NOT 29.89 millions. 35 MILLIONS.

Here any kind of discussion ends. I kindly ask all readers to check that one fact yourself. Find Poland population before WWII. Got it? Now ask yourself: do you like to be fooled like that? This "well-known German reasercher" (and Carolyn Yeager and Wilhelm Kriessmann who published such a BS) lied to you about most basic fact. Cause they think that you are absolute idiots. Are you?

Anyway. Just for fun let's verify very next "fact":

"There exists an important Polish population chart. It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people, and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million. The difference is of approximately 6 million, or 21% of the total population. The chart seems to prove the statement of "6 million" but, on the contrary, it contradicts it."

"and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million".

True.

"The difference is of approximately 6 million, or 21% of the total population."

The difference is approx. 11 MILLIONS, or 33% of the total population.

And yes. It was that bad. One third of total population lost (notice: LOST! Not all died. Some publications did indicate that 6 millions died, it could be one of the reasons for possible confusion regarding subject, among others)

Source: As for official count and confirmation of data I recommend Nuremberg Trials protocols and final statements. It's all there. Again – if you are interested find exact relevant data yourself, source provided.

"That shows in a significant way how Polish history – better Polish fairy tales – works."

Yes. I do understand Otwald Mueller is absolutely hideous, abhorrent and disgusting person.
Not only liar, not only completely fake "researcher" and real Nazi comforter and backer but absolutely disgusting character too. No doubt about it. Still it's always good to know the true, whatever it is.

Let's "reserch" just next fact. That will be simply very next sentence.

"We must keep in mind that 31% of Poland's population was of non-Polish origin one million were German, as you can see from names of cities like Stettin, Gruenberg and Breslau."

We have to, we really have to keep in mind Otwald Muller is not only hideous person, liar and fake researcher but also complete idiot. We are talking absolute moron who is willing to lie about most basic facts, even when simpliest fact checking will expose him as a complete fraud.

Now, I do not know exact ethnic population of Poland in given time. I can easily check it but there is no point. Let's assume it was 31% of non-Polish, just for the sake of argument. And let's assume 1 million were Germans.

"as you can see from names of cities like Stettin, Gruenberg and Breslau"

German science at it finest.

1. STETTIN is GERMANIZED name for Polish name SZCZECIN, not the other way around.
2. Same story with Wroclaw (for short period of time known as Breslau).

Exposing this german moron (and those behind him) is like kicking a puppy. I am sure he is true vile character, he has very worst intentions for real victims of WWII and he is doing his best to cover German crimes of WWII.

Still exposing him does fell like kicking a puppy.

And I am not going to waste more time exposing more of this BS "letter" and BS "article anyway. Not unless somebody will be genuinly interested.

So one final note regarding lol very german cities of Stettin and Breslau:

My English isn't fluent so I explain it in simplest way I can. Szczecin is a name for settlement built/established by Slavs (Wkrzanie) in VII century. It is old city and old name. Yes, most of city dwellers were Germans from like XVI century to 1945. No it's not because this city was build by Germans. It was taken by Germans (not Germany, it was Hanza, lol, it's a long story, to cut it short – let's say Germans) centuries after it rose and they changed name only a bit, to make it easier to pronounce. Germans don't do SZ and CZ diphthtongs hence Stettin. It is as easy and simple.
BTW there is so much more to the story of Szczecin. Like city coat of arms ("Gryf" or "Gryfin", eng. Griffin) and the fact even when citizens were mostly Germans, for 500 years rulers where "Gryfici" native Poles of House of Griffin. Very old and noble family. House of Griffin ended in XVII century, natural causes.

Breslau. It's even funnier. Again. Breslau is germanized name for Polish city.

And again. Fascinating story but let's keep it short. First settlement then town, then city. Slavs, Poles, Poles. One of most important Polish cities. First name recorded?

Vuartizlau. 1133. In Thietmar's Chronicle.

Now if you are not familiar with Thietmar then just a brief: Thietmar of Merseburg, German, bishop, historician. Kudos to him for good effort in writing down city name as similar to way it was spoken as posssible. Vuartizlau gives a lot of hints regarding, well, many things.

Bardon Kaldian , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:01 pm GMT
@Emily Bullshit.

Serbian ideology is chock full of lies. For instance, lunatic Serbian ideologues (Milojević, Lukin Lazić, Pjanić Luković, Deretić), from the 1870s to the 2010s, have claimed that:

* Mesopotamians are actually Serbs
* Siberia got the name from Serbs (S-b-r..well, it's like S-r-b)
* half (at least) of Egyptian pharaohs & Roman emperors were Serbs
* Jesus was a Serb
* Homer, Aristotle etc. wrote in Serbian
* all Slavs are actually Serbs, as well Germans etc.
* all ancient civilizations, except yellow races (Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, Rome, Greece,..) were Serbian
* etc. etc.

As far as WW II is considered, official censuses from 1931. (the last census in Royalist Yugoslavia) and from 1948. (the first in Communist Yugoslavia) show that there are c. 700,000 more Serbs in all of Yugoslavia- and 3,500-14,000 less Croats, despite annexation of Croatian areas formerly held by Fascist Italy (Istria, Rijeka, 5 islands with exclusively Croatian population).

So, Serbs who are supposedly the greatest victims in ex-Yu WW II show a growth in absolute numbers by 700,000 & Croats who are supposedly perpetrators, or lesser victims- are diminished in absolute numbers by 14,000 (despite adding a significant Croatian-only territory)?

The whole Yugoslav & Serbian narrative about WW II is one big, fat lie.

Genrick Yagoda , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:09 pm GMT
@Włodzimierz

the Germans, obliterating the crime, burned most of the corpses.

There is the convergence of evidence again!

Jews (and Catholics) are inflammable!

It's shocking to me that we don't have hundreds of thousands of people bursting into flames on a daily basis.

Alfred , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:21 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse I don't understand why Jewish groups and their rabbis were given control of two mass grave sites. Did the civil authorities conspire with the Jews to pretend the bodies were of Jews?

Ukraine has a Jewish president and a Jewish prime minister. The current regime was installed following a coup organised by their Jewish cousins in the USA. Fewer than 1% of the population is Jewish – but this is a democratic government after all.

Politicians and journalists who don't toe the line are shot. The victims never seem to be Jewish. Here is the latest one only a few weeks ago – May 22. I doubt if it made the MSM anywhere.

Ukrainian lawmaker found dead in central Kyiv (Jewspeak)

He was not "found dead". He was executed with a bullet to the head.

It did not happen in "central Kyiv". It took place in his parliamentary office.

trickster , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:22 pm GMT
@padre Anyone who ever fought in a war will tell you there are no good guys, no side is right while the other is wrong. All war is atrocity on both sides sometimes deliberate sometimes just sheer revenge. To experience the reality of a battlefield, before, during and after is to try to survive under the most terrible conditions physically and emotionally intact.

As I tell any young man who would lend me an ear. There is no glory and honour in war. These are words the politicians use to provoke youth to wash their dirty laundry while they chill in nice comfortable and safe homes licking up the finest wines and foods. The youth get to eat any cheap shit they feed you, in a hole, with assorted vermin, without a bath or change of clothes for at times several days, most times defecating and peeing in your pants from necessity or sheer terror. Why nourish and nurture a man who may have a life expectancy of a few hours ?

I dont look at war movies. They are all bullshit. I passed the TV once when my son was looking at one such movie. The actors all look so clean and well groomed. An artillery shell landed and some of them somersaulted as if they had bounced on a trampoline and then landed all intact. That is Hollywood! The reality ? When a heavy shell lands among men they disappear. You might find a leg with the boot still attached. A discerning person may say "Yeah, that is Billy's leg. I remember because the boot had such and such a mark carved on it". But the rest of Billy is nowhere to be found. Its called "Missing in Action"

During and after a war, civilians may wax about humanity, peace and love and goodwill to all men, who was good and who were the criminal types but those classifications do not exist on a battlefield or in a war. Even God is nowhere in sight, what would he be doing there anyway ?

And if God has made himself scarce who or what is good and who and what is bad ?

Genrick Yagoda , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT
@Saggy Once again, proof that Jews are inflammable!

If only we could find a way to burn dead Jews next to a flywheel, our energy problems would be solved.

Adam Smith , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT
@utu

Normal people will agree that the official number of 6,000,000 is too high

Agree!

Anon [240] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:48 pm GMT
@utu

Lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Jews are missing only in the Holocaust deniers' minds.

Were there ever two better lines written to illustrate the hate that Jews have for non-Jews and the disrespect that Jews have for the minds of non-Jews?

"Keep searching goy, lack of evidence that you are a murderer does not mean that you are not"

"Lack of hard evidence of your crimes and our victimhood is only lack of evidence in your mind".

What a lunatic.

Completely representative of your people.

Wonder no longer why you people draw so much animosity.

Normal people will agree that the official number of 6,000,000 is might be too high and that rather three to four million Jews died during WWII and they are not missing because they are dead.

"Normal people will agree"

Who is this, a member of the special needs Hasbara team? Using condescending rhetoric that is so rudimentary and ineffective that it is given to the short bus participants to make noise? Is today also the field trip to the yeshiva, where you will read from the torah like a real Jewish boy?

No one "normal" would agree with your any of your self-interested logic after reading the lines that I prior highlighted. In fact, "normal people" would reflexively investigate the opposite position.

In fact, "normal" people would and do discount the entire story after it came out, as admitted by Jews themselves, that Simon Wiesenthal invented the additional 5 million non-Jewish dead for sympathy. And that lie was put forward as true for decades.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/

You people don't lose "part credit" or "part credibility" for that lie. You lose it all. And that's before we get to the rest of the proof against Holocaust logic.

You are inveterate liars, mass murderers, willing oppressors, and thieves.

Trinity , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:53 pm GMT
Even when Jews LIE it is only to bring joy into the world. Take one Herman Rosenblat who wrote, "Angel At The Fence," describing his time in a concentration camp during WWII. Good ole Herman was making the talk show circuit with his book and there were plans for a movie, UNTIL, it was found out that good ole Herman Rosenblat had made the whole story up, it was a LIE. The nice Jewish boy, Herman, had Doprah Pigfrey calling his book the greatest love story of all time. teehee. When caught in a LIE, Herman said he was only guilty of trying to bring joy into the world.

Jews are such a caring people. Jews are champions of human rights for everyone and they always seem to take joy in their role as their brother's keeper. Here was a Jewish man who did not seek fame nor money, no sir, his concern was bringing joy into the world through a book. Jews can teach humanity so much. Jews have suffered so much. And don't let Jewish power, money, and influence fool you, or their role in the pornography business or other seedy occupations, Jews are people of the Book, and the pillars of the community. Jews have championed the fight against White racism and civil rights for Blacks, they are tireless workers for truth, justice and the American Way just like Superman. Go Jews.

skrik , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:58 pm GMT
@maz10

exception which confirms the rule

Fallacious. Taurus excretus cerebus perplexus – and we all know which party throws most of the BS in the perverse hope of obfuscation – they just can't help themselves. Then see 33.Anonymous[506]. rgds

Bookish1 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 2:58 pm GMT
Keep in mind how many tons is 1,00,000 people. If the average weight of 1,000,000 people was 135 pounds then the total weight of that 1 million is 135,000,000 lbs. Divide that by the number of pounds in 1 ton which is 2,000lbs and you get 67,500 tons of human remains. Now how the hell do you hide that much human remains of one million people much less 6 million.
Anon [317] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:05 pm GMT
@utu Always remember that the other pertinent truth is that the Jews were guilty of everything that the Germans accused them of.

As is well-evidenced by what Jews support, control, and how they otherwise act as a political group today.

The Jews are no different than Al Qaeda. They merely work to hurt outsiders with lies about their identities and motivations, their control of the press, their influence on the culture, and their perfidious political actions once embedded in governments. Instead of with literal IEDs.

Jewish goals are parallel to the goals of Al Qaeda, with much better results.

That the Jewish and Islamic religions share virtually all of their theological DNA is not a coincidence.

Bookish1 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:08 pm GMT
@GeeBee True that jews always seem to win but the fact is they cant lose one major war or they are done forever. Israel cant lose one war or she is done. Arabs can lose 10 wars and the come back for another one someday. If Hitler would have won jews would have been done.
GMC , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:11 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse I know the place they are discussing and you have to remember Odecca has always been a heavy Jewish city. But only when it suits their best interests. In this case – getting more free land and calling out the Orthodox folks . Even goes back to the Khazarian/ Pecheneg times, when they chose to be Jews because the Ottomans in the south and the Rooskies in the north were pressing them to be either Islamic or Orthodox. Of course they chose the " chosen ones religion" for their slave trade and usury / theft trade. The normal Russians/Crimeans that I know that are jews are way cool folks – they even have family is Israel but no big ego. Just normal Russians.
Da's Reich , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 3:23 pm GMT
@Włodzimierz I read the link you provided,

Thats it? seriously?

Wally , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 4:01 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse said:
"Was it known that the bodies were of people who died during the war? That the skeletons were not centuries old?"

No.

That's what I meant when I said:

"Of these there is no proof of even the age of the skeletons, whether they were even Jews, whether they were even murdered. "

Best.

RT , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 4:25 pm GMT
@utu In justice, absence of evidence is absence of evidence and has been for thosand of years everywhere, except for ancient Egypt . If you cannot provide evidence, the accused is innocent. This is called presumption of innocence.
the shadow , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 4:27 pm GMT
@utu

Lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Very good thinking that adds up to nothing more than:

The original statement is that "absence of proof is not proof of absence," which simply means that a lack of proof for something doesn't, in and of itself, prove that the thing is false. But lack of evidence for something is most definitely evidence that the thing in question may be false, especially when there should be evidence for that thing.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=absence+of+evidence+is+not+proof&form=WNSGPH&qs=AS&cvid=8456f19bbf1f4cbc86d8334b0836c137&pq=absence+of+evidence&cc=US&setlang=en-US&PC=LCTS&nclid=1FD86AA1E9C61CF1E0ED02564AB0D376&ts=1592150685972&wsso=Moderate

But beyond the silly proof you offer that the absence of evidence is proof of presence, the answer to your question about how one would prove that those whose ashes disappeared had really died is easily answered by death certificates, cremation records, and evidence of funerals or memorial services that were held, and announcement about the death of the deceased.

But even your notion that the ashes of the holocaust victims would have been as scattered as would be the case of cremated remains scattered throughout the United Statges by relatives is absurd with rerspect to holocaust victims who were all allegedly killed in very confined geographic spaces and whose ashes the Germans certainly did not bother to scatter throughout Europe to hide them as your example of relatives scattering the ashes of relatives throughout the country would have them do.

That you would even provide this example to substantiate the holocauset reveals the absurdity of your claiming it happened as claimed. Had it happened on the scale claimed, there would be massive evidence of it just as the examples provided in the article about the mass graves of real victims that have been found.

Indeed, given the millions killed in the fighting on the Eastern Front there should be endless examples of mass graves first of the millions of Russians killed during the German advance the Germans almost certainly buried in mass graves as the Russians did likewise of the Germans killed during the Russian advance.

So where is the evidence?

An easy place to look as Babi Yar where 30,000 Jews were reportedly murdered in a very specific site. Why has no one looked to prove it with the evidence of the bodies?

Wally , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 4:32 pm GMT
@utu – You really should know what you're talking about before you speak.
Remember, it is your "Holocaust Industry" which claims that such immense human grave sites exist in known locations, not Revisionsts.

– Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

– The millions of other deaths you cite are not based upon the ridiculous "holocaust" claims of enormous numbers of people dying in highly centralized locations in which, again, the locations are supposedly known.

– As for military deaths, I remind that that there are cemeteries all over Europe.

There have been many, many attempts to find the alleged huge mass graves in which many millions have been supposedly dumped. Those attempts failed miserably, as I demonstrated about Sobibor in the first comment in this thread.

Here's another of the many examples examples I can cite.
!! Excavation Result: No Human Remains of alleged 34,000 Jews as claimed at Babi Yar !! In fact, no remains period. : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11314
more examples here:
https://www.unz.com/?s=haimi&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally
and:
https://www.unz.com/?s=sturdy-colls&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

– Of course, utu, you have been challenged at this site for proof of the scientifically impossible 'gas chambers' that you believe in.:
https://www.unz.com/?s=utu&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

Carolyn Yeager , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT
@Reger You say "many geographical inaccuracies in this article" and you cite one. Indeed, the one you cite is an error – Bruenn/Brno is not in the "same area of Northwestern Bohemia" as is Aussig/Usti nad Labem. Brno is in the south.

I will correct this on my website, so thank you for bringing it to my attention. But it is certainly not weighty enough to undermine the rest of the article, which is based on newspaper accounts from the time. Since that time, no new diggings of any consequence have been undertaken. The will to do so, by those in authority, is not there.

Dumbo , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 4:46 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian Croat Ustaša killed thousand of Serbs, it's well documented, do you deny that?

This is supposedly from a Gestapo report, if true it's quite damning, it's not a source that would want to incriminate their own allies:

Increased activity of the bands [of rebels] is chiefly due to atrocities carried out by Ustaše units in Croatia against the Orthodox population. The Ustaše committed their deeds in a bestial manner not only against males of conscript age, but especially against helpless old people, women and children. The number of the Orthodox that the Croats have massacred and sadistically tortured to death is about three hundred thousand

(I have no dog in this fight, but have more sympathy for Serbs than for Croats because of the way the have been treated by the U.S. Empire recently).

Pop Warner , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:09 pm GMT
@Grahamsno(G64) The AR camps and complete lack of forensic evidence at each of them is mentioned. I can see why the focus is on Auschwitz because if Jews brought more attention to Treblinka it would be obvious how fake the whole thing is.
Włodzimierz , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:10 pm GMT
@Genrick Yagoda Dear Genrick

Do you really think German occupants did burn their own fellow citizens on polish soil in 1939?

What is written is completely unhistorical and untrue statement that nobody can find any polish citizens mass graves in Poland.

Authors did not check basic data like number of polish citizens before the war – almost 35 millions. But we can read in the article

It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people .

What is the purpose of such obvious mistake/falsification?

maz10 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:14 pm GMT
@skrik Dear Sir, it is inappropriate to quote oneself they say thus I will refer you back to my original comment which you were kind enough to comment yourself. Sufficient to say I pointed out that Ms. Yeager and her sidekick made fools out of themselves with their choice of Gen. Jaruzelski's quote and have a nonchalant attitude towards facts when it comes to mass graves of German atrocities victims.

In this context I can not help but also to point out that it is not the first time Ms. Yeager wrote nonsense and not the first time to I call her out on that either.

Thus if anyone here is a peddler of taurus excretum it is Ms. Yeager who has a proven track record of being one.

For this reason when she occasionally gets something right it is similar to a broken clock showing the right time every twelve hours.

Dumbo , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT
"Let the dead bury their dead". Instead of harping on such issues with a discussion that never ends and is rather pointless, Europeans would do better to focus on the future and reproduce more. Of course, "Holocaust denial" and similar speech criminalization laws would have to go too, it's time, soon there will be no survivors alive, and it will hopefully be forgotten like all wars. There's no need to keep talking about this things forever, let's forgive and forget, and think about the future. If Europe becomes majority African and Arab in the next 100 years, then what's the point of discussing what flavour of white killed which flavour of white? It won't matter anymore I mean non-whites are already toppling Churchill statues, and Churchill was until recently an "anti-fascist" and a hero of both leftists and neo-cons.
Carolyn Yeager , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:16 pm GMT
@Louis Hissink

But propaganda 101 is to always accuse your opponents of your own crimes.

Thanks. This is the truest thing that can be said and should always be kept uppermost in mind when studying history.

Evidence for this truism can be found in the book Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau 1939-1945. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0803299087?tag=duckduckgo-ffnt-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1
and also
https://carolynyeager.net/wehrmacht-war-crimes-bureau-1939-1945-part-10
and
https://carolynyeager.net/wehrmacht-war-crimes-bureau-1939-1945-part-11

evidence_a_must , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:19 pm GMT
@JohnPlywood

".. .the only people denying the Holocaust are those with a serious learning disability and poor attention span .. ."

and those poor, deluded people who prefer to have evidence , and not just Hollywood films created by people with an agenda to push and a story to sell!

Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:20 pm GMT
@Reger Individual fates?
Anything to do with the Hollow-co$t narrative is suspect. What kind of "death camps" have hospitals for internees? What kind of "death camps" have scrip for prisoners to spend at a canteen? What kind of "death camps" have orchestras and theaters for internees? Why would "death camps" record marriages and births? The Olympic size swimming pools and soccer fields for internees at "death camps" were there, obviously, as another form of mass murder by forcing the internees to swim until they drowned or run until they collapsed.
How about the individual fates of the women and children burned to death in the incendiary bombing of Hamburg and Dresden, or the deaths of 1600 civilians who drowned when the Ruhr Valley dams were bombed? More teenage girls named Anne died in one night of allied bombing than ever died in concentration camps.
To paraphrase David Irving, more people died in the back seat of Ted Kennedy's car than in homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz. It is indeed, unfortunate that people died, but the Jewish "leadership" declared war on Germany in 1933. The deaths of the three people you named is on their hands for scheming against the legitimate government of Germany.
Włodzimierz , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:31 pm GMT
@Da's Reich Authors claimed they can not find any example of documented mass grave of polish citizens.

I don't think there is a big problem to find info about such topics if you need.

https://ipn.gov.pl/en/news/4230,The-world039s-largest-cemetery-of-the-clergy-Polish-clergy-in-KL-Dachau.html

You may visit Dachau and check on site.

Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:32 pm GMT
@Dumbo According to Kurt Vonnegut, author of Slaughterhouse 5, and Victor Gregg, POWs who helped with the "clean up", a whole lot more than what has been estimated.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/15/bombing-dresden-war-crime

Curious that the fanatical record keeping Nazis have no record of the amount of coke needed to burn the numbers of alleged victims cremated at concentration camps. Meanwhile, the Soviet archives released camp records are in line with the Red Cross estimates and Bletchley Park transcripts. Obviously, they are all lying and Yad Vesham is correct.

Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:38 pm GMT
@maz10

(actually socialism but I will leave that for another time)

You wouldn't know what socialism was if it bit you in the arse. Your local co-op is socialist.

utu , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT
@RT Grow up. You are not in the court. You are not even in the court of public opinion. You are among the Holocaust denial retards. You are one of them actually.
maz10 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:01 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon I beg your pardon? There is a good chance I have more first-hand experience with socialism (as Realsozialismus) then you have experience with anything at all.
Bardon Kaldian , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:12 pm GMT
@Dumbo Just a c-p for clueless people.

* during 1918-1939 period, Yugoslavia was basically a softer version of Greater Serbia, with all nations-except Slovenes- oppressed. Close to 400 Croats & ca. 2000 Muslims had been killed by Serbian paramilitaries & government forces during "peaceful" period in the 1920s & 1930s. The turning point was assassination of Croatian leader Stjepan Radić, a sort of Croatian Gandhi, by a Serb nationalist in Yugoslav parliament in 1928. This convinced some Croats that any Yugoslavia was insufferable, and the most influential among them was future Poglavnik/"Leader" Ante Pavelić, who emigrated & founded a revolutionary terrorist organization ustaše (ca. 200-300 people).

* after the collapse of Yugoslavia in the April war 1941, situation in Croatia & Bosnia and Herzegovina was something like a vacuum. No Croatian politician wanted to become the head of state patronized by Nazi German authorities, but at the same time there was a sense of jubilation: Croats got independent (in theory) country, after decades of Serbian oppression. In this vacuum, Pavelić was installed by Hitler and Mussolini as a kind of puppet. In this country, ca. 50-60% were Croats & more than 30% were Serbs (the rest were Bosnian Muslims, considered to be Croats).

* Pavelić assumed power on April the 10th 1941. But even a week before that, Serb paramilitaries had started killing Croats & some 200-400 people were killed in the interregnum. After he had been installed, Pavelić actually dissolved parliament & established a dictatorship; Croatia was crippled & many vital areas, especially in Dalmatia, were given to Mussolini's Italy. Also, he introduced racial laws for Jews & started to persecute Serbs- both as a revenge for their participation in royalist Yugoslavia period terror & their atrocities during interregnum. In next few months perhaps 5-20,000 Serbs were killed by ustaše in various areas of NDH/Independent State of Croatia.

Basically, it was a terrorist regime & most Croats disapproved of it, but were expecting to get rid of ustaše in some future & retain statehood under democratic circumstances. So, Croats wanted a truly independent country.

* Serbs, being persecuted (along with Jews & Gypsies) rebelled on a massive scale in the last quarter of 1941 & many areas of NDH had become virtually defunct. This resulted in further Pavelić's dependence to Hitler. On the other hand, communist partisans, led by a Croat, Josip Broz Tito, after their defeat in Serbia fled with remnants of their army to the NDH territory. There, they found refuge among Serbs, while many of them defected to royalist Četniks led by Serbian colonel Mihailović. Četniks had killed, during 1941, ca. 12-15,000 Muslim & Croat civilians, mostly in the eastern Bosnia regions.

From 1941-1945 there was a civil war in all of Yugoslavia, with various factions fighting for different aims. In Croatia, more Croats had been coming to partisans, especially after 1943 (fall of Italy) & thus partisans became a respectable force. For instance, Croatia had 5 partisan corpses (4 of them with clear Croatian majority), while Slovenia had 2, Bosnia & Herzegovina 2, Serbia proper 2 etc.

* in may 1945, war was over & partisans had won. But, in 2- 6 weeks after the end of war, they committed mass atrocities, killing ca. 80,000-130,000 Croatian soldiers & civilians, perhaps 10,000 Serbian Četniks & up to 4,000 Slovenian white guards.

Modern unbiased historical investigations have dispelled many myths, especially those re number of victims in Yugoslavia & NDH in particular. In sum, in all of Yugoslavia, ca. 500,000 Serbs had died unnatural deaths & this included some 300,000 Serbs in NDH. Of these, perhaps over 100,000 had been killed by ustaše, while others died of typhoid, were killed by Germans, Četniks etc. Among Croats, ca. 200- 250,000 died of unnatural causes, virtually all of them in NDH on various sides. Percentage-wise, the biggest losses were among Bosnian Muslims, over 80,000.

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/engleski/download.html

For instance:

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/download-eng/Zerjavic_manipulations.pdf

Vladimir Zerjavic- YUGOSLAVIA-MANIPULATIONS -WITH THE NUMBER OF SECOND WORLD WAR VICTIMS

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/download-eng/Greater_Serbia.pdf

GREATER SERBIA: from Ideology to Aggression,

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/download-eng/SE_Europe.pdf

An International Symposium: SOUTHEASTERN EUROPE 1918-1995

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=D46A71C24EB2DFA356DF7B7DFF095E5F

War and Revolution in Yugoslavia, 1941-1945: Occupation and Collaboration – Jozo Tomasevich

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=BC54C7CC4AD01FA7B4056FF06D130363

The National Question in Yugoslavia: Origins, History, Politics – Ivo Banac

VICB3 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT
@utu Bottom line is that the whole existing Jewish Holocaust narrative is not supported by the evidence. And any competent detective would spot the inconsistencies and contrary evidence in the overall narrative and conclude that either the witness is fabricating and embellishing what actually happened, or very simply is lying.

That's not the same thing as saying no Jews were killed in Europe, or that I'd want to be Jewish and in Europe in WWII. (Hell, I wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere in Europe during WWII period!) Rather, it's very clear that everybody was killing everybody else in those places and at that time based on ethnicity, nationality, politics, being on the losing side or what have you, including plain old greed, and that nobodies' hands were clean. Warfare will do that.

That, and the subsequent coverups, denials and spinmeistering over the years by all actors concerning massacres and reprisals, large scale thefts, organized starvations and ethnic cleansing are more over embarrassment and concerns about reputations than anything else. Likewise, the claiming of this, that or the other mass grave as your own is just as much about economic advantage and fortune seeking as it is about validation.

Enough! It was 80 odd years ago. Learn about what happened, all that happened and why, and to all peoples who were present, without favour given to an influential (for now) few. Resolve that it was monstrous for all, and resolve that it ought not to happen again. And then move on.

Just a thought.

VicB3

Fox , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:25 pm GMT
@peacewalker This sort of opinion is as childishly chauvinistic now as it was in 1850, 1920, 1939 and 1990. Did you know that Eastern Germany has been only given to the Poland for temporary administration by the Soviets? Notwithstanding the weird actions of the people in power in the FRG, Poland's borders are defined by international law by the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles to which Poland was a signatory party.
Alternate History , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:28 pm GMT
@utu Nice deflection, troll. People no longer believe the Red Cross account of 430k.
jbwilson24 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:39 pm GMT
@GMC " The normal Russians/Crimeans that I know that are jews are way cool folks – they even have family is Israel but no big ego. Just normal Russians."

Nonsense. Jews are not Russians, period. Different ethnic group, different loyalties. Given a brouhaha, you'll see which group they side with.

Bardon Kaldian , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:41 pm GMT
@VICB3

Bottom line is that the whole existing Jewish Holocaust narrative is not supported by the evidence. And any competent detective would spot the inconsistencies and contrary evidence in the overall narrative and conclude that either the witness is fabricating and embellishing what actually happened, or very simply is lying.

This is stupid. It is very easy to calculate upper & lower limits of losses of various European peoples during WW2, just by feeding the computer with pre-war & post-war census data and taking into account border changes.

True, some figures overlap & there is a significant standard deviation for some numbers. But, generally, overall picture is rather well established.

jbwilson24 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:47 pm GMT
@utu "Grow up. You are not in the court."

Nonsense, low IQ person. The burden of proof is on the person making the existential claim, not on the person questioning it. I suggest opening a basic critical thinking book at some point in your life.

Fact is that the evidence for the deliberate murder of 6,000,000 Jews is almost entirely missing, apart from 'confessions' obtained under torture and the claims of self-interested parties who stand something to gain.

Add to that any number of oddities.

– Official reports from the Red Army indicating that the area around Treblinka was pastoral and undisturbed, contrasting with eyewitness accounts (by Jews) of skulls being strewn everywhere.
– Red Cross records mentioning nothing of a mass murder campaign costing millions of lives.
– Putin's comments that the Soviets transferred millions of Jews out of Poland
– The number of compensation claims registered with the German government reaching the 4 million mark, when the Nazis estimated the total number of Jews in Nazi occupied territory was smaller than this.
– The physical impossibility of outdoor cremation of millions of people using barbeques made from train rails and stacks of wood (which magically worked, even in the snow and rain).
– The lack of cross examination at the Nuremburg tribunal.

It smells mightily of a Jewish fantasy enabling them to guilt trip the Germans, cover up British war crimes, and justify the theft of Arab land.

Rich , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 6:47 pm GMT
Obviously the holocaust must be fake or there wouldn't be laws against researching it, or disputing different aspects of it. Historical events that happened have no laws forbidding questioning or debating them. We can argue over how many died at Stalingrad, or in Hiroshima. We can question the number who starved in the Potato Famine, or from Smallpox in American Indian tribes. But one so-called "historical" event must never be questioned? Ridiculous. The fact that laws force one to believe in it, makes me doubt it completely.
Carolyn Yeager , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:05 pm GMT
@Grahamsno(G64) I asked Ron Unz to put the title "Some Answers to the Mystery of the "Missing Jews" on the article; the original title is the sub-title you see here. I think it's perfectly justified – note the word "Some." Not 'The answer' or 'An answer', but only 'Some answers', which in retrospect over the last 10 years it does provide. If the communists murdered thousands and hundreds of thousands of Eastern European peoples, as you say, doesn't that impact the WWII death toll and the "missing jews"?

Holocaust believers like yourself have never been able to show the existence of the remains of those millions of bodies you say the German's killed. In light of that it's amazing anyone can still defend this cult of death.

That explains why you are reduced to personal insult, ad hominem and distractions like "what about the AR camps," instead of explaining why only Axis forces have been unearthed in mass graves since the war's end, and no Allied forces. That includes no Jews.

Also, FYI (and others), "Revisionism" is not something dictated from above by certain "professionals" but is individual works by individuals who study various aspects of history and put their work out there for scrutiny. Not something you are capable of appreciating, I know. So far, you have said nothing that debunks this article that is based on documented reality.

Amon , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:19 pm GMT
@utu

Jews are missing only in the Holocaust deniers' minds.

Jews historically have had no homeland and thus feel no attachment or sentimental value to the lands upon which they live. It is therefore not that hard to speculate that once news of the evil Nazis approaching reached them that they packed up and moved further east or west to avoid getting mixed up in the actual fighting.

We see this mentality at full effect even today when millions of whites and blacks are sent around the world to kill, maim and occupy foreign nations while the jews who profit from it all stay at home in their million dollar mansions and closed off ghettos demanding to be given the best of the special treatment for their eternal victimhood.

clay sucre , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:38 pm GMT
Lack of evidence is not evidence of abscence-but is rather objective evidence of the non-existence of such a claim or cause of which one has been supportive or others forced to accept as truth.
Art , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 7:47 pm GMT
@utu Grow up. You are not in the court. You are not even in the court of public opinion. You are among the Holocaust denial retards. You are one of them actually.

Poor little utu – is he a Jew terrorist – or one of the feeble-minded gentiles, who falls for the Stockholm Syndrome Jew victim "six-million" lie. He is clearly on the wrong side of history.

As is abundantly clear from this article and its comments – many if not most of central Europe's ethnic peoples experienced group murder. 55,000,000 people died during WWII. Jews where just one tribe of many.

Instead of forgiving and healing all – the Jews have grabbed all the sick "victimhood glory" for themselves and used it as a cudgel to do even more killing in the Middle East.

Maintaining the "six-million" lie has cost America its cohesion and Western idealism – we are divided today into identity groups warring with each other -- all to maintain terroristic Jew political control, aimed at sustaining the "six-million" lie. Anyone who dares to disagree with the Jew lie – is terrorized and ostracized from society.

So what is it for little utu – Jew terrorist or fool?

A fool can intellectually grow – a morally poor Jew who supports "the lie" is hopeless.

Anonymous [506] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:16 pm GMT
@Robjil Judging by the aggressive theft of Ukraine farmland for pennies on the dollar by Chabad, instrumentalized by Nuland's lackeys at the Dept of State, and the consequent dispossession of Ukrainian farm people à la Palestinians in Palestine, my guess is that Israel intends to use the Ukraine as the "breadbasket" of the JWO in Europe, just as a de-industrialized United States, with its white population exterminated, will become the JWOs breadbasket in the Western Hemisphere.
Beefcake the Mighty , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:16 pm GMT
Where did they go? They were never there in the first place. Part of the puzzle can be resolved here:

https://www.bjpa.org/content/upload/bjpa/dell/DellaPergola%20Some%20Fundamentals.pdf

His aggregate numbers (in Table 2 on p. 10) are consistent with the numbers from the Jewish Virtual Library. But what's curious are the numbers for Eastern Europe (i.e. Imperial Russia/Soviet Union and Poland primarily) The American population exploded between 1880 and 1939. That's the well-known turn-of-the century influx. It's safe to assume that about 5M of the American number was due to immigration (applying a reasonable 0.5% growth rate to the 1880 population), and that it was mainly from Eastern Europe. That would mean that the stock of Eastern European Jews grew from 5.7M in 1880 to about 8.2M+5M = 13.2M in 1939, an annualized growth rate of 1.4%. This is simply not believable, given the chaos afflicting Eastern Europe during this time period. If we apply the 0.9% growth rate claimed for world Jewish inter-war population by the JVL (probably high but not absurdly so) to the 5.7M Eastern European stock, and subtract off the 5M that emigrated to America, we get an Eastern European Jewish population in 1939 of around 4.7M, which is at least 3.5M less than commonly claimed. (It was probably even less than 4.7M, given emigration to Palestine.) World Jewish population in 1939 was probably around 16.7M-3.5M = 13.2M, not 16.7M, implying Jewish losses during the war of around 2.2M. This number is consistent with German documentation re. the AR camps, Auschwitz, and the EG shootings, as well as Red Cross documentation about the Western camps. It's highly likely that both the Soviet and Polish 1939 numbers were exaggerated by at least 1M each. The numbers for the eastern part of the old Austro-Hungarian empire should also be viewed skeptically. (The 1931 Polish census claiming over 3M Jews is well-known, but there was a 1921 census claiming 2M Jews; there is no way the Polish Jewish population grew at a 4% annualized rate in that decade.)

anarchyst , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:21 pm GMT
Hitting the holohoax (oops I mean "holocaust™") head-on doesn't work because of the jew-controlled media which has declared "holocaustianity™" to be the new worldwide "state religion" from which no dissension from its "orthodoxy" is permitted.
The only way to counter "holocaustianity™" is to point out the scientific and engineering impossibility of every "holocaust™" claim.
Let's look at a number of claims that have been made and have been ingrained in "holocaust™" orthodoxy:
-- using "bug spray" (Zyklon B) as an execution agent (ha ha)
-- "gas chambers" with ordinary wooden doors, not gas-tight doors
-- "gas chambers" with no means to ventilate the chambers after "operation"
-- "gas chamber" chimney not connected to anything
-- "blood spurting out of the ground" for weeks and months
-- "crematoria stacks with visible flames" (not possible) crematoria burn clean
-- "thousands of bodies cremated per day" (not possible)
-- "multiple bodies" in one "muffle" to "speed up" operations
-- "lampshades, soap and shrunken heads", oh my
-- "the ability to tell when jews are being cremated by the smell or color of smoke"
-- "claimed burial grounds not being permitted to be disturbed" per jewish "law"
NONE of these claims are possible or valid and can be easily debunked using sound scientific and engineering principles.
I have been thrown out (asked to leave) those "jewish freak shows" called "holocaust™"museums for merely attempting to point out these facts.
Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:29 pm GMT
@Genrick Yagoda

Once again, proof that Jews are inflammable!

Bodies decay fast and animals pick them off.

Look at nature. So many creatures but vanish without a trace. Animals come and eat them. Often, animals even grind and eat the bones.

Hyenas can crack elephant bones with their jaws.

It's been said the Great Leap killed tens of millions of Chinese. Them bodies disappeared real fast.

And many Civil War dead bodies and WWI dead bodies in the trenches just rotted in the fields.

Every year, tons of cows and pigs are killed. They are disposed of without a trace.

Art , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:02 pm GMT
@jbwilson24 It smells mightily of a Jewish fantasy enabling them to guilt trip the Germans, cover up British war crimes, and justify the theft of Arab land.

Say jbwilson24 -- did you kill any Jews -- I didn't!

Hmm -- then why are we being held guilty? 98% of everybody alive today was not even living during the war. Yet, the Jews act like we are ALL guilty for WWII.

Using a vile false guilt trip, the Jews have seized power over the West.

We are coming to understand this ploy – human nature does not like lies – it rebels.

p.s. Jew use of the Stockholm Syndrome, rules the West. (terror first – claim victimization second)

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:27 pm GMT
@Robjil And what about that yuletide girl? What she was a dogs pipi.
snag , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:27 pm GMT
Why do you write "Polish historical interpretations" knowing that after WWII this so called 'Polish' regime was infested by (appointed) Stalin Jews and few Polish commies with suspicious past? *

*During Poland's partition many Jews bought for cents on dollar or acquired (for snitching) names, estates and noble titles of Polish patriots shipped to Siberia.

Agent76 , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:32 pm GMT
Jan 30, 2016 Operation Reinhard: The Murder of Polish Jewry

How did the horror of the Nazi death camps evolve? Auschwitz didn't just sprout from the ground one day. There was an "evolution" of the murder machinery, and a cast of diabolical characters most people have never heard of.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KQwjAF69SNk?feature=oembed

Feb 4, 2017 The rise of Hitler 1919-1929: revision for IGCSE & GCSE History exams

This revision podcast is relevant to both GCSE and IGCSE History students studying Nazi Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/N7r6EIxkz30?feature=oembed

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:41 pm GMT
@trickster But than all Hitler was stupid, because he did not figure out that eventually will come to that.
All Germans were so stupid that they did not know that number of roads in Ukraine and Russia that in case of rain did not change to mud holes could be counted on fingers.
And even those were no match of via Apia of ancient Rome.
UncommonGround , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:47 pm GMT
@peacewalker Impressive your information about the origin of Stettin and Breslau. But as far as I can see through a fast look at wikipedia, what you say seems to be at least a bis misleading. The history seems to be quite complicated with really lot of changes. They say about Breslau that the "Wandalenstamm der Silinger" (a German tribe) settled there between the 4 and 5 Century and Slavs came about 1 or 2 centuries later. Much later there was a Polish domination. Breslau was destroyed by the Mongols in 1241 and after that rebuilt by German settlers. In 1261 Breslau received the right of cityship (? Stadtrecht) by the German city of Magdeburg. The history of Stettin is even more complicated, but wikipedia says that it was founded by the fusion of German and Polish settlements ("Die Stadt Stettin entstand aus einer pomoranischen und zwei benachbarten deutschen Siedlungen" = The city Stettin has originated from a pomoranian and two neighbour German settlements).
Carolyn Yeager , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 9:48 pm GMT
@maz10

Let me just point out, that mass graves with Polish victims of German mass executions were located among other places at:
Palimiry [sic], Las Sękocinski, Las kabacki, Laski and many, many others locations such as for example Ponary (outside of Poland's post WW II borders in present-day Lithuania).

Why hasn't the general public heard of these incredible mass graves? Except for a little commotion at Palmiry and Ponary, they are Polish fiction. The Germans assembled an international team of experts to exhume the Katyn graves and publish their findings. The Poles kept their exhumations, if there were any, all in the family.

Palmiry massacre, Wiki – "After the war, the Polish Red Cross , supported by the Chief Commission for the Investigation of German Crimes in Poland (pretty sure this is Soviet), began the search and exhumation process in Palmiry. The work was carried out between 25 November and 6 December 1945, and later from 28 March until the first months of summer 1946. Thanks to Adam Herbański and his subordinates from the Polish Forest Service , who in the years of occupation were risking their own lives to mark the places of execution, Polish investigators were able to find 24 mass graves. More than 1700 corpses were exhumed, but only 576 of them were identified. Later Polish historians were able to identify the names of another 480 victims.[17][50] It is possible that some graves still lie undiscovered in the forest near Palmiry.[11]

Ponary massacre, Wiki – "The total number of victims by the end of 1944 was between 70,000 and 100,000. According to post-war exhumation by the forces of Soviet 2nd Belorussian Fron t the majority (50,000–70,000) of the victims were Polish and Lithuanian Jews from nearby Polish and Lithuanian cities, while the rest were primarily Poles (about 20,000) and Russians (about 8,000).[2]
(No more information on this Polish-created page about the exhumation/identification process. It goes straight to the more extensive commemoration/memorial monuments section.) Then ends with:
"The murders at Paneriai are currently being investigated by the Gdańsk branch of the Polish Institute of National Remembrance [1] and by the Genocide and Resistance Research Center of Lithuania .[27] The basic facts about memorial signs in the Paneriai memorial and the objects of the former mass murder site (killing pits, tranches, gates, paths, etc.) are now presented in the webpage created by the Vilna Gaon State Jewish Museum."

This why the general public doesn't know of these sites – they have not been legitimately vetted. Yale's Timothy Snyder is a big believer though.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:02 pm GMT
The sad thing is that the Final Solution to the Jewish problem has not yet been achieved.

I mean the problem of the presence of non-Jews in the world, a major problem for the Jews. Not finally solved yet, but getting close.

There have been some great achievements since earliest times. One was Moses's great success in tricking the stupid Midianites a number of times before finally exterminating them, as recounted between Exodus Ch. 2 and the end of Numbers. Another was Joshua bar Nun's fabulous achievement exterminating most of the Canaanites. For the time, the greatest achievement bar none!

But the great achievement of the Jewish Dark Age of 200–400 AD, the killing of 6 million Jews by the Jews, the 6 million Hellenistic Jews by the Talmudic Jews, outshines everything to date. Done at a time when the world population was tiny!

That must be done, the killing of non-Talmudic Jews must be done, as Maimonides wrote a few centuries later. But the best subsequent achievement seems to have been the killing of about a million non-Talmudic Jews in Iberia, greater Spain. Maybe fewer. Many escaped the peninsula. Many Karaites survived. Or some did, count unclear.

So far, at least till 1948, and since the Cyrene massacres of the 2nd century, stopped by the Romans, they have not had the power to kill non-Jews in any large numbers, could only encourage wars among them. And undermine their society with their lobbying skills and organized financing. But they are immensely powerful today in America and Europe. The Final Solution may be close.

anonlb , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:07 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian Serbian lies are only matched by coatian lies (jews/muslims lies are out of competition simple because they belive they can say anything to non-jew/non-muslim and do a right thing).
Serbian lies can't change fact that every single sentence from Bardon post is one big fat lie.
Hints: census from 1931 counted people by religion(ortodox, catolics, muslims, ), census from 1948 counted serbs, croats, slovenians, montenegrins, macedonians and 'minorities'. Muslims are counted as serbian or croatians. He can't even say those numbers for current croatian territory (hint: about 90k serbs less than ortodox and 300k croats more than catolics,despite 200k croats killed or expelled by comunists)
Counting persons with serious mental problems with zero influence as 'serbian ideologues' is just fun.
Wally , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:15 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon said:
"What kind of "death camps" have hospitals for internees? What kind of "death camps" have scrip for prisoners to spend at a canteen? What kind of "death camps" have orchestras and theaters for internees? Why would "death camps" record marriages and births? The Olympic size swimming pools and soccer fields for internees at "death camps""

– Here's more info. on the big one in the "holocaust"narrative, so called "death camp / extermination camp" Auschwitz

[MORE]

– An "extermination camp" where thousands of Jews chose to stay behind when the Germans left.
– An "extermination camp" where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.
– An "extermination camp" where 1,500,000 human remains supposedly exist, but in fact no such remains exist.
– An "extermination camp" where many Jews gave birth.
– An "extermination camp" where the absurdly alleged homicidal 'gas chambers' could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically impossible.
– An "extermination camp" where fake 'gas chambers' were "reconstructed" AFTER THE WAR.
– An "extermination camp" where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.
– An "extermination camp" where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake story.
see:
Auschwitz war time aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story , ex.:
Drawn in 'Auschwitz Jews being marched to gas chambers', ON A ROOF . – An "extermination camp" where there are countless Jew "survivors", yet the fake narrative says 'the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands on.'
-An "extermination camp" where so called "survivors" say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

the shadow , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:16 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian

This is stupid. It is very easy to calculate upper & lower limits of losses of various European peoples during WW2, just by feeding the computer with pre-war & post-war census data and taking into account border changes.

But it is precisely the border changes for those countries and population movements occurred within those areas that makes it difficult if not impossible to determine with any accuracy what population changes within the area those borders include at different times mean. It is, obvious, is ity not, that the "Poland" of 1939 is not the "Poland" of 1946, is it not? And that it's ridiculous to draw any DEFINITIVE conclusion based on the ethnic group distribution included within the boundaries of those "countries" between those periods, especially when Russians moved substsantial numbers out of the area they occupied from 1939 to 1941, and then Germans were moved out of areas that became Polich after WWII, etc., etc. and also moved people into and out of those areas when no one really knows the NUMBERS INVOLVED.

It's years ago since I lookeed at the numbers Hillsberg cited, but I remenber dismissing them at the time because they look conjectural at best.

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:20 pm GMT
@Carolyn Yeager There are two ancient Slavic tribes Czechs and Moravian s. Capital of Czechs is Praha (Prague)
Capitol of Moravian s is Brno. Slovaks at one time were part of Great Moravian empire.
Morava is east of Czechia, (As is its capital Brno, and not south as you claim.)
Slovakia is East of Moravia.
Morava is river and the tribe was named after river. River Morava joins Danjub
at Slovakia.
Wally , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:22 pm GMT
@peacewalker said:
"I just don't know where to start. Whole "article" is such a BS. OK, let's start from beginning then"

– Let's start with you actually reading the article.

– Then show us the millions upon millions of human remains that are said by those like you to be in specific, known locations.

– After that, tell us how the absurd 'Nazi gas chambers' supposedly worked.

– Your cited sources give no proof.

It's curious that people like yourself actually want the alleged millions to be dead.
You should be happy to hear that millions of your brethren were not murdered.

Petermx , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:24 pm GMT
"In the case of this latest and largest mass grave (2008), no clothing, eye glasses or gold teeth were found. It thus appears that they were completely stripped before they were killed." My German mother and her family began fleeing west in the last months of the war. They lived in the German city Brieg (now called Brzeg under Polish rule). It's close to the bigger city Breslau (now called Wroclaw under Polish rule). She was captured near Pilsen (known as Plzen under Czech rule). The Red Army arrived. My mother was part of a group of women being held and the women were forced to strip naked and they were humiliated. This is what my crying mother told me roughly about 40 years ago. She was not raped. She's gone now and despite this sad story was an upbeat and generally happy person. The Americans were also there. I believe they took the area first and then withdrew and turned the area over to the Russians and Czechs. My mother was able to escape and eventually settled in Bavaria for several years before moving to the USA. If there are numerous cases of victims being stripped, I wonder if this could be tied to a particular army or nationality. Or was it was done by more than one army or nationality?
Robjil , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:32 pm GMT
@Priss Factor None of these examples you stated are a mandatory religion.

The big 6 has replaced the sun as the center of the universe.

Most people on this planet want the sun back as the center of the universe.

Take that big 6 wall down.

Let the sun shine again on this planet.

Anon [264] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:40 pm GMT
Jewish Lightning Got All 6 Million – Case Closed
Reger , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:41 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon To my very point. You won't follow the suggestion I made. Much easier to deal in abstractions than reality, isn't it?
Reger , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 10:51 pm GMT
@the shadow I agree. From my reading the transfers of population for reasons of ethnicity, colonisation (eg of the Wartheland), slave labour, not to mention the theft of 'aryan' children from Poles made for total confusion at the end of the war. The stories of witnesses always mention fellow victims from all parts of Europe and people travelling in all directions.
Re the numbers I can only repeat the wise quip of Christopher Isherwood in an argument about the number of victims; he said to his opponent: 'What are you? In real estate?"
Incitatus , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:06 pm GMT
Well done, Carolyn.

Why not just say Mahatma Austrian Hitler left no victims, including 20s-30s-40s Germans (400,000 to 600,000 by most accounts, murdered by the NSDAP) and espouse, more important, Germans were the only victims in WW2? Go for it!

The NSDAP brought God to Austria, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, Memel, Denmark. Norway, Luxembourg, Belgium, France, Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, Crete, North Africa, USSR, etc.? Hitler was quite the evangelist. God (in that hymnal) is named Adolf. A deity without territorial aspirations but nonetheless great coincidental appetite and digestive ability. And with a post-war score to settle with German Churches.

"I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a sleepwalker" ("Ich gehe mit traumwandlerischer Sicherheit den Weg, den mich die Vorsehung gehen heißt") -Adolf Hitler 15 Mar 1936 Munich

He "sleepwalked" Germany into catastrophic World War, then attacked an ally in what became a winter campaign 1941-42 lacking winter uniforms and operational gear. Incompetence paramount. Nothing to do with Jews, though by all counts – as in Poland –many were murdered (sorry Carolyn).

"The war against Russia is an important chapter in the struggle for existence of the German nation. It is the old battle of the Germanic against the Slav peoples, of the defense of European culture against Moscovite-asiatic inundation, and the repulse of Jewish Bolshevism. The objective of this battle must be the destruction of present-day Russia and it must therefore be conducted with unprecedented severity. Every military action must be guided in planning and execution by an iron will to exterminate the enemy mercilessly and totally. In particular, no adherents of present Russian-Bloshevik system are to be spared."
– Generaloberst Erich Hoepner, Orders to 4th Panzer Group Commanders in advance of Barbarossa 2 May 1941 [Burleigh 'The Third Reich' p. 521]

A year later at Stalingrad 42-43, same problems, Hitler doubled-down plus some.

"The Führer commands that on entering the city the entire male population should be eliminated since Stalingrad, with its convinced Communist population of one million, is particularly dangerous."
– Adolf Hitler to Sixth Army 2 Sep 1942 [Beevor 'The Second World War' p.356]

Genocide? There you have cold hard fact.

There's more Carolyn. It's against Germans! 9 Nov 1942 Hitler orders 150,000 artillery and transport horses in Sixth Army be sent several hundred kilometers to the rear, ostensibly to save transporting fodder to the front. It deprives all unmotorized (75% of 6th Army forces) divisions of mobility. Ten days later Soviets launch "Operation Uranus', a 'Kesselschalcht' encirclement worthy of Bismarck and von Moltke.

By 23 Nov 1942 the Sixth Army is cut-off in pocket, destined to starve and freeze as Hitler orders "Sixth Army stand firm in spite of temporary encirclement". His solution to the crisis is to designate the Sixth Army "Fortress Stalingrad" and order (24 Nov) holding the front "whatever the circumstances". No clarity on food, munitions, medical care or strategic relief. None comes.

Germans knew better.

"I am beyond caring. Two of my brothers were sacrificed in Stalingrad and it was quite useless. And here we have the same."
–Soldat to SanUff [Senior Medical Officer] Walter Klein, Kampfgruppe Heintz, Field Dressing Station near St-Lô, Normandie 26 Jul 1944 [Beevor 'D-Day' p.353]

That's the legacy you (Ron and Carolyn) embrace? Good luck!

Bardon Kaldian , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:12 pm GMT
@anonlb Dumb (my advice- don't mess with someone who knows what he's talking about. You'll turn out to be a laughing stock ).

In 1931 census people were counted by religion & language. The South Slavic "language" was a bizarre official combination of the Slovene, Croat & Serbian (no one then, except Croatian linguist Stjepan Ivšić, had recognized Macedonian language). Other languages like Hungarian, German, Italian, Slovak, Czech, Albanian were clearly the languages of those peoples. So, one could clearly distinguish between Croats, Serbs, Bosnian Muslims .. by simply looking at their religion & mother tongue (in that case, weird "Sloveno-Croato-Serbian").

During the Communist census in 1948, people just said what they were, nationally. Catholics- if not Slovene speaking- were Croats; Orthodox were either Serbs, Montenegrins or Macedonians (there were preserved censuses from 1931, so one could monitor county fluctuations of population); BH Muslims were mostly "Yugoslavs undetermined" (some of them said they were either Croats or Serbs, due to political pressures, but in next 2-3 decades were simply written out of this census).

Also, there were tiny minorities of Catholic Serbs (ca. 8,800) and Orthodox Croats (9,300)- but they don't mean anything, in comparison with these millions.

So, if you try to argue, rather use convincing arguments than a hysterical blather.

Bardon Kaldian , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:16 pm GMT
@the shadow Virtually all modern works on victimology had taken into account borders shifts so that victims (or potential victims) couldn't be counted twice (or thrice). It is reflected even in such a wishy-washy source as Wikipedia.
Carolyn Yeager , says: Website Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:19 pm GMT
@Zarathustra

Morava is east of Czechia, (As is its capital Brno, and not south as you claim.)

The article is mentioning Czechoslovakia , not the Czech Republic (note the map), and only in relation to the treatment of its German citizens in 1945-6. There is nothing inaccurate in my comment that you're referring to; Brno is definitely in the south of the country compared to Usti.

Da's Reich , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:23 pm GMT
@Włodzimierz I read your link again,

I won't be bothering a third time,

the shadow , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 11:53 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian And the evidence substantiating their degree of accuracy is what?
RT , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 12:00 am GMT
@utu We are in the court of History.
In the court of History the truth is always late, but always arrives.
Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 12:04 am GMT
@maz10 I'd doubt it. The biggest fraud about socialism was the promotion of Marxism (communism) as being socialism. I'm not saying Marx didn't have followers, but the majority of his contemporaries rejected his state owns all views as being totalitarian. Communism is the obverse side of the coin of finance capitalism. Both seek to concentrate wealth into the hands of a few – relatively speaking.

Clifford Douglas, who invented the Social Credit movement, worked closely with the Guild Socialists in Britain. While ultimately rejecting their views, he recognized that they weren't interested in state ownership, were not opposed to competition, but were opposed to finance controlling production and trade. By the way, Douglas was opposed to finance capitalism as well.

I repeat: your local co-op is socialist. Every member has an equal say through the single share allowed to be purchased; the board of directors is elected by the membership; the profits shared are based on your participation level; and it competes with privately owned businesses, including corporations.

Anonymous [352] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 12:28 am GMT
@utu Here is an excerpt (one of MANY) from the Jewish press showing that Jewish American groups have long tried to stop the U.S. Congress from recognizing the genocide committed against Christian Armenians by Turkey:

Every year on April 24, the day that Armenians commemorate the killings, a resolution calling for the use of the controversial term is proposed in Congress and then beaten back. Some Jewish groups claim credit for ensuring that such a resolution never passes.

Jewish advocacy groups, including the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, B'nai Brith and American Jewish Committee "have been working with the Turks on this issue" for more than 15 years, said Yola Habif Johnston, director for foundations and community outreach at Jinsa. "The Jewish lobby has quite actively supported Turkey in their efforts to prevent the so-called Armenian genocide resolution from passing," she said.

Showdown Set in 'Genocide' Debate
Rebecca Spence, The Jewish Daily Forward
Sept. 2, 2006

Beefcake the Mighty , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 12:36 am GMT
@Curmudgeon I think for you, any system you happen to like is socialist, and any system you don't like is non-socialist.
Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 12:41 am GMT
@peacewalker

1. STETTIN is GERMANIZED name for Polish name SZCZECIN, not the other way around.
2. Same story with Wroclaw (for short period of time known as Breslau).

What's your point?
New York was New Amsterdam before the British took over. Strasbourg was Strasburg before Louis XIV annexed Alsace and Lorraine. Istanbul was Constantinople before the Muslims decided to change the name. Novgorod was an East Norse settlement. At one time, the Baltic was a "Swedish lake" and Poland was occupied by the Swedes with a Swedish king sitting in Poland. In the mists of time, Jerusalem was Uru-shalem before the chosenites arrived from Yemen.
Borders and place names have changed through out the recorded history of mankind. Poland now claims famous Germans were Polish. Nikolaus Kopernikus, the famous German astronomer, is now called Mikolaj Kopernik. He lived in Thorn (now Torun'), never spoke a word of Polish, and published his works in Latin.

Here's a contemporary non German view of the situation in Poland at the start of the war:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/polandinside/pfi00.html

The Poles were happy to be Chamberlain's dupes in starting a war with Germany, and ramped it up with the ethnic cleansing of Germans in the German territories it occupied after the November 11, 1918 Armistice was signed. When war starts, no ones hands are clean, but the Poles, like the chosenites continue to play the victim.

James Reinhart , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 12:50 am GMT
For those that have looked at the movement of people from the late 20s to 1939, it would not stand up to a 10 minute audit. It is obvious to me, and written by H.G. Wells in his book "The Shape of Things to Come" that the Dazig corridor was built to start the war as Polish and Soviet troops, and it is well documented, were killing ethnic Germans since 1938. This was considered a brilliant move by Wells of the Wilson Administration who wiped out 60-70 million, no only due to war but the fact that it was the US out of Ft. Riley which is documented in the Wichita Observer to be the first place that ever ha this flu of which almost 10% died.

It is known that the US created the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks through NYC with Schiff, Baruch, Warburg, Kuhn, Loeb, Harriman and others) and also set up through the War Industries Board, by a Jewish Marrano named Samuel Bush to load the Lusitania up with "small" munitions of which Cunard was warned as were documents not to go on the ship as the US had been supplying the filth ridden UK with weapons but was all but defeated and Germany offered a peace plan that was beneficial to all. The Balfour Declaration, (Read "History of Zionism 1600-1918" by Nahum Sokolow and you will find in the forward that Arthur Balfour was also a Marrano which is pointed out specifically), was enough for the monied interests of the US to put America into war by lies. Benjamin Freedman's speech at the Willard hotel sums it up well.

The US, USSR, UK and China are all tied together and all are oligarch with a fraudulent opposition as one can figure out when reading "Red Symphony" of Rothschild. All nations are nothing more than corporations that have gone into receivership and are owned as assets just as recently stated by the central banks and the monetization of all creation. Those that have no reverence for all living things and respect for life or planet except for their love of money that their contempt for creation represents is now off the charts as all institutions are corrupt.

Bias of Priene – all men are wicked and most are evil. That was a statement of one of the greats, of the 7 sages and has now come to a point where all life may disappear in a few years through poisoning every aspect of life and the list is long, geoengineering, medicine/vaccine/pharmaceuticals, big ag, idiocy in programming – (listen to JFK condemn amusement and the need for a well informed society), no limits of committing atrocities to life itself as the web of life is hanging by a thread. Education, think tanks, NGOs, government leaders they all are evil and are backed up by a putrid judicial system.

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:15 am GMT
@Carolyn Yeager You are funny! And I do not need to take a look at the map. You do!

If you make a right angle triangle from Usti nad labem and Brno you do find out you will find out that distance from Usti to Brno is twice as long eastward than southward.
So you are in error.

Carolyn Yeager , says: Website Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:17 am GMT
@Włodzimierz

Authors claimed they can not find any example of documented mass grave of polish citizens.

What the authors said is, "The only known mass grave of Poles was the work of the Soviet Red Army, led by the NKVD, in the Katyn Forest in Soviet Russia. Long blamed on Germany, the responsibility for this genocidal act is now placed where it belongs. Ironically, the only mass gravesites found on Polish territory have been of German civilians."

What you provided in Comment 11 ( http://lasszpegawski.pl/in-english/%5D is not documented, it's only stories. Have these alleged graves been officially exhumed and the remains counted and examined? It doesn't say so.

This one at the INR about Dachau is another Polish nothing-burger. By putting forth these nonsense pages as evidence of the atrocities you claim, you only make yourself a laughing stock.

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:22 am GMT
@Zarathustra And the second error. After Munich there was no more Czechoslovakia.
Slovakia did become independent.
karel , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:34 am GMT
@Petermx Strange story. Sorry to hear of your mother's humiliation but what you write makes no sense to me. What was your mother doing in Plzen at the end of the war? Captured by whom? There was no Red army in Plzen and American troops left in November 1945. If your mother was supposedly fleeing west then she would have landed in Dresden where most refugees from Wroclaw went but not in Plzen. Caroline Yeager and you have obvious deficiencies in geography, which is a strong indications that most of the stories, ventilated here, are simply made up.
Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:48 am GMT
@Curmudgeon Kopernik did not have a even a drop of German blood in him. And he was not an astronomer.
He was a polish monk. He did study the solar system as a hobby.
He was first who did claim that all planets rotate around the Sun.
Galileo did only confirm the Koperniks theory only one hundred years after .
Galileo did have already a telescope. Kopernik did not!
Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 1:56 am GMT
@Al Liguori If "60 myriad on 60 myriad" (your first link) is 600,000 squared, that is not a small number.

Thanks.

Anon [264] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 2:22 am GMT
@Reger You're suggesting readings of poetry & opera while accusing Curmudgeon of abstraction?

Let's play, 'Spot the Jew'!

Carolyn Yeager , says: Website Show Comment June 15, 2020 at 2:24 am GMT
@Petermx Thanks for sharing your story, Peter. There is nothing that moves me and shakes me up more than stories of the German expellees as they trudged and fled to the West in those terrible months. I'm so glad your mother made it and lived to have you, tell you her story, and have a good life. Such strength. I did some radio broadcasts with a certain Andreas Wesserle whose family left German Slovakia and reached Bavaria, where they suffered terrible living condition and had practically no food for several years. And they were better off than most!! The stories he tells are shocking.
You might enjoy hearing him tell of this time with his family; he is one of my favorite guests ever! So smart, and such a good storyteller!
https://carolynyeager.net/heretics-hour-dr-andreas-wesserle-german-holocaust-1944-46
https://carolynyeager.net/heretics-hour-devastated-germany-1946-52

I know the Americans were the first to reach Pilsen. And both they and the British felt they owed Uncle Joe practically anything he asked for! I don't know the answer to your question about stripping, but I think it was pretty common, in order to take all the valuables. Every piece of clothing was valuable in those times, plus eyeglasses, false teeth, anything like that.

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[Jun 13, 2020] We Don't Need No Stinking Vaccine For COVID-19

Jun 13, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Jeff Harris via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity, A Glaring Omission

With the 24/7 media circus coverage of Covid-19 I find it particularly interesting that there is an obvious glaring omission of some extremely important facts relative to dealing with a virus, especially one that is allegedly so virulent like this one. Yes, I read all about the critical need to shelter in place, stay inside away from other people, wash your hands constantly, avoid touching your eyes, nose or mouth, wear your face mask and by all means observe social distancing if you MUST venture outside for food!

Then it's repeated ad infinitum that the ONLY hope we have of ever returning to a semblance of normalcy is to have a vaccine to protect us! Then to add some drama to this narrative the media highlights their death-o-meter scoreboard with the implied threat that you'll be next IF you don't obey the rules as dictated by the "experts".

But what is assiduously avoided at all cost is any reference to our most potent defense against any virus; our body's natural immune system. Try as I might I couldn't find anything about this first line of defense on the World Health Organizations (WHO) website or Centers for Disease Control (CDC) website. It's as if it doesn't exist and is completely irrelevant.

If these organizations were genuinely concerned about the health of citizens they would obviously discuss the vital role a healthy immune system plays in protecting us from illnesses. But since they don't its obvious some other motive is at work, at least to me, and I strongly suspect to other critical thinkers as well.

We now know from the science and data that over 90% of the people exposed to Covid-19 have no symptoms at all or at worst a mild cold. The flu vaccines we have are only effective 30% to 60% of the time and the bugs change regularly so a vaccine that worked OK last year may barely work at all this year. Let's learn some more about our body's immune system.

Virus protection without a vaccine

There is an enlightening article on Web MD titled: "How to use Your Immune System to Stay Healthy". That's a pretty straight forward title now isn't it? Early on Bruce Polsky, MD, interim chairman department of medicine and chief division of infectious disease at St. Lukes-Roosevelt Hospital Center in New York City says:

"We are endowed with a great immune system that has been designed evolutionarily to keep us healthy."

The article goes on. . .

"The immune system is your body's natural defense system. It's an intricate network of cells, tissues and organs that band together to defend your body against invaders. Those invaders can include bacteria, viruses, parasites, even fungus, all with the potential to make us sick. They are everywhere-in our homes, offices and backyards. . . "

The truth is no amount of social distancing, hand washing or face mask wearing is going to eliminate our exposure to these various bugs. That's why we were created with this amazing first line of natural defense.

Here's more from Web MD . . .

"The immune system can recognize millions of different antigens. And it can produce what it needs to eradicate nearly all of them. When it's working properly, this elaborate defense system can keep health problems ranging from cancer to the common cold at bay. . . "

Wow! That's pretty amazing stuff isn't it! According to Web MD a properly functioning immune system can "keep health problems ranging from cancer to the common cold at bay." So why isn't this "science" being included in all the other health recommendations we're being bombarded with daily? It seems to me that any "expert" worth their salt would be talking about the importance of a healthy immune system to stay healthy.

But there's more . . .

The Web MD article noted that failure to eat a healthy diet, sitting around not exercising, not getting enough sleep and chronic stress can all lead to a compromised immune system. To quote Dr. Polsky again:

". . . Lifestyle aspects are very, very important."

So if our lifestyle is very, very important to staying healthy as the good doctor says ask yourself this question? Based on the Web M.D. article virtually all the results of the lockdown serve to weaken our immune systems. The stress of unemployment, constant harping about infections and rising death rates, lack of exercise and now a crack in our food distribution system all are known to weaken the human immune system.

I also find it quite interesting that large groups of people can shop at Walmart, Home Depot or other big box stores but they can't attend their local church even if it's a "drive through" service?

Web M.D. says:

"Research shows that people with close friendships and strong support systems tend to be healthier than those who lack such supports."

During times of crisis people need encouragement and their faith built up more than ever before. Mandating people huddle in fear in their homes with constant media reports of infections and death bombarding them continually is there any wonder peoples immune systems are under severe stress?

[Jun 01, 2020] This is one war party -- war party, imperial party of militarism, conquest and killing of civilians

Highly recommended!
Jun 01, 2020 | www.antiwar.com

Antiwar.com contributing editor Danny Sjursen appeared for an extensive interview with Jimmy Dore:

https://youtu.be/VfmWC1bYUrc

[May 31, 2020] We Are Combat Vets, and We Want America to Reboot Memorial Day by Matthew Hoh and Danny Sjursen

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... In recent years, U.S. troops were killed not only in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also Syria, Kenya, Somalia, Yemen, and Niger. Few Americans could locate these countries on a map; fewer knew its soldiers fought there. Additionally, Pentagon pilots and proxies killed people in Libya, Pakistan, and elsewhere in West Africa without losing a single soldier. ..."
"... The campaigns in Somalia and Yemen best expose the absurd casualty inequity of modern American warfare. In the former, only a few U.S. service members have been killed in an 18-year intervention. Conversely, hundreds of thousands of Somalis died or were displaced as a direct or indirect result (an exacerbated famine , for example) of a largely U.S.-catalyzed war. In Yemen, just one American soldier died in combat, compared to more than 100,000 locals -- including 85,000 children starved to death -- in a terror campaign the Saudis couldn't wage without U.S. complicity . ..."
"... With unemployment sky-rocketing to Great Depression rates, and income inequality at Gilded Age levels , both holidays now "celebrate" egregious blood and treasure disparity. For example, sifting through the Department of Labor's statistics reveals that some 8,000 contractors have been killed in America's war zones. That outnumbers U.S. military fatalities. Since Washington has progressively privatized and outsourced its wars, perhaps Americans should also observe a Mercenary Memorial Day. ..."
"... Faced with unrecognizable brands of war, most people substitute nostalgia and myth. Grappling with war's reality has implications that are too disturbing. Far simpler and more satisfying is to commemorate long past sacrifices at Normandy and Iwo Jima, rather than more confounding losses in Niger and Iraq. The temptation persists even as the last World War II veterans pass; old notions of what combat is ..."
"... The United States has lost its ethical and strategic way. Riddled with a virus that has now killed more Americans than the Revolutionary, Mexican, Spanish, Indian, Philippine, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Iraq, and Afghan Wars combined , this nation requires serious soul-searching. Reimagining its bookended summer celebrations might be a good start; but it won't be easy. ..."
May 25, 2020 | www.motherjones.com

Pandemic or no, resilient Americans will celebrate Memorial Day together. Be it through Zoom or spaced six feet apart from ten or less loved ones at backyard cookouts, folks will find a way. In these peculiar gatherings, is it still considered cynical to wonder if people will spare much actual thought for American soldiers still dying abroad -- or question the utility of America's forever wars? Etiquette aside, we think it's obscene not to.

Just as the coronavirus has exposed systemic rot, this moment also reveals how obsolete common conceptions of U.S. warfare truly are -- raising core questions about the holiday devoted to its sacrifices. The truth is that today's " way of war " is so abstract, distant, and short on (at least American) casualties as to be nearly invisible to the public. With little to show for it, Washington still directs bloody global campaigns, killing thousands of locals. America has no space on its calendar to memorialize these victims: even the children among them.

"Just as the coronavirus exposed much internal systemic rot, this moment also reveals how obsolete common conceptions of U.S. warfare truly are."

Eighteen years ago, as a cadet and young marine officer, we celebrated the first post-9/11 Memorial Day -- both brimming with enthusiasm for the wars we knew lay ahead. In the intervening decades, for individual yet strikingly similar reasons, we ultimately chose paths of dissent. Since then, we've penned critical editorials around Memorial Days. These challenged the wars' prospects , questioned the efficacy of the volunteer military, and encouraged citizens to honor the fallen by creating fewer of them.

Little has changed, except how America fights. But that's the point: outsourcing combat to machines, mercenaries, and militias rendered war so opaque that Washington wages it absent public oversight or awareness -- and empathy. That's the formula for forever war.

In recent years, U.S. troops were killed not only in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also Syria, Kenya, Somalia, Yemen, and Niger. Few Americans could locate these countries on a map; fewer knew its soldiers fought there. Additionally, Pentagon pilots and proxies killed people in Libya, Pakistan, and elsewhere in West Africa without losing a single soldier.

The campaigns in Somalia and Yemen best expose the absurd casualty inequity of modern American warfare. In the former, only a few U.S. service members have been killed in an 18-year intervention. Conversely, hundreds of thousands of Somalis died or were displaced as a direct or indirect result (an exacerbated famine , for example) of a largely U.S.-catalyzed war. In Yemen, just one American soldier died in combat, compared to more than 100,000 locals -- including 85,000 children starved to death -- in a terror campaign the Saudis couldn't wage without U.S. complicity .

No one wants to see American troops killed, but a death disparity so stark stretches classic definitions of combat. Yet for locals, it likely feels a whole lot like "real" war on the business end of U.S. bombs and bullets.

So this year, given the stark reality that even a deadly pandemic -- and pleas for global ceasefire -- hasn't slowed Washington's war machine, it's reasonable to question the very concept of Memorial Day. There are also important parallels with Labor Day -- the holiday bookend to today's seasonal kick off. Just as memorializing America's obscenely lopsided battle deaths is increasingly indecent, a federal holiday devoted to a labor movement the government has aggressively eviscerated is deeply troubling.

With unemployment sky-rocketing to Great Depression rates, and income inequality at Gilded Age levels , both holidays now "celebrate" egregious blood and treasure disparity. For example, sifting through the Department of Labor's statistics reveals that some 8,000 contractors have been killed in America's war zones. That outnumbers U.S. military fatalities. Since Washington has progressively privatized and outsourced its wars, perhaps Americans should also observe a Mercenary Memorial Day.

Widening the aperture unveils thousands more "non-combat" -- but war-related -- uniformed deaths in desperate need of memorializing. From 2006-2018 alone , 3,540 active-duty service members took their own lives -- just a fraction of the 15-20 daily veteran suicides -- and another 640 died in accidents involving substance-abuse. Each death is unique, but studies demonstrate that the combined effects of PTSD and moral injury -- these wars' " signature wound " -- contributed to this massive loss of life. On a personal level, at least four soldiers under our commands took their own lives, as have several friends. These are real folks who left behind real loved ones.

Faced with unrecognizable brands of war, most people substitute nostalgia and myth. Grappling with war's reality has implications that are too disturbing. Far simpler and more satisfying is to commemorate long past sacrifices at Normandy and Iwo Jima, rather than more confounding losses in Niger and Iraq. The temptation persists even as the last World War II veterans pass; old notions of what combat is die with them.

The United States has lost its ethical and strategic way. Riddled with a virus that has now killed more Americans than the Revolutionary, Mexican, Spanish, Indian, Philippine, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Iraq, and Afghan Wars combined , this nation requires serious soul-searching. Reimagining its bookended summer celebrations might be a good start; but it won't be easy.

In a new take on an old tradition, perhaps it's proper to not only pack away the whites, but don black as a memorial to a republic in peril.

Matthew Hoh is a member of the advisory boards of Expose Facts, Veterans For Peace and World Beyond War. He previously served in Iraq with a State Department team and with the U.S. Marines. He is a Senior Fellow with the Center for International Policy.

Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and contributing editor at antiwar.com . He served combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and later taught history at West Point. He is the author of a memoir of the Iraq War, Ghostriders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge .

[May 30, 2020] Coronavirus Propaganda Mimics War Propaganda

May 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Jeff Deist via The Mises Institute,

In the period leading up to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, the Bush administration and its media accomplices waged a relentless propaganda campaign to win political support for what turned out to be one of the most disastrous foreign policy mistakes in American history.

Nearly two decades later, with perhaps a million dead Iraqis and thousands of dead American soldiers, we are still paying for that mistake.

Vice President Dick Cheney, Attorney General John Ashcroft, Assistant Attorney General John Yoo, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, were key players behind the propaganda -- which we can define as purposeful use of information and misinformation to manipulate public opinion in favor of state action. Iraq and its president Saddam Hussein were the ostensible focus, but their greater goal was to make the case for a broader and open-ended "War on Terror." ​

So they created a narrative using a mélange of half-truths, faintly plausible fabrications, and outright lies:

And so forth.

But the propaganda "worked" in the most meaningful sense: Congress voted nearly 3–1 in favor of military action against Iraq, and Gallup showed 72 percent of Americans supporting the invasion as it commenced in 2003. Media outlets across the spectrum such as the Washington Post cheered the war . National Review dutifully did its part, labeling Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, Justin Raimondo, Lew Rockwell, and other outspoken opponents of the invasion as "unpatriotic conservatives."

Tragically, the American people never placed the burden of proof squarely with the war cheerleaders to justify their absolutely crazed effort to remake the Middle East. In hindsight, this is obvious, but at the time propaganda did its job. Disinformation is part and parcel of the fog of war.

What will hindsight make clear about our reaction to COVID-19 propaganda? Will we regret shutting down the economy as much as we ought to regret invading Iraq?

The cast of characters is different, of course: Trump, desperately seeking "wartime president" status; Dr. Anthony Fauci; epidemiologist Neil Ferguson; state governors such as Cuomo, Whitmer, and Newsom; and a host of media acolytes just itching to force a new normal down our throats. Like the Iraq War architects, they use COVID-19 as justification to advance a preexisting agenda, namely, greater state control over our lives and our economy. Yet because too many Americans remain stubbornly attached to the old normal, a propaganda campaign is required.

So we are faced with a blizzard of new "facts" almost every day, most of which turn out to be only mildly true, extremely dubious, or plainly false:

Again, much of this is not true and not even intended to be true -- but rather to influence public behavior and opinions. And again, the overwhelming burden of proof should lie squarely with those advocating a lockdown of society, who would risk a modern Great Depression in response to a simple virus.

How much damage will the lockdown cause? Economics aside, the sheer toll of this self-inflicted wound will be a matter for historians to document. That toll includes all the things Americans would have done without the shutdown in their personal and professional lives, representing a diminution of life itself. Can that be measured, or distilled into numerical terms? Probably not, but this group of researchers and academics argues that we have already suffered more than one million "lost years of life" due to the ravages of unemployment, missed healthcare, and general malaise.

By the same token, how do we measure the blood and treasure lost in Iraq? How much PTSD will soldiers suffer? How many billions of dollars in future VA medical care will be required? How many children will grow up without fathers? And how many millions of lives are forever shattered in that cobbled-together political artifice in the Middle East?

Propaganda kills, but it also works. Politicians of all stripes will benefit from the coronavirus; the American people will suffer. Perversely, one of the worst COVID propagandists -- the aforementioned Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York -- yesterday rang the bell as the New York Stock Exchange reopened to floor trading. He now admits that the models were wrong and that his lockdown did nothing to prevent the Empire State from suffering the highest per capita deaths from COVID. Like the architects of the Iraq War, he belongs on a criminal docket. But thanks to propaganda, he is hailed as presidential.

[May 28, 2020] Gabbard's withdrawal of the defamation claim against Clinton clearly represents the final stage of 'bending the knee' to the party.....

May 28, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) has chosen to let Hillary Clinton get away with calling her an agent of the Kremlin, dropping the defamation lawsuit for the sake of party unity and defeating President Donald Trump.

While Gabbard and her campaign "remain certain of the action's legal merit," the new reality of the Covid-19 pandemic requires them to "focus their time and attention on other priorities, including defeating Donald Trump in 2020, rather than righting the wrongs here," her attorney Dan Terzian wrote in the court filing withdrawing the lawsuit on Wednesday.

It was a far cry from the fiery tone of the original complaint, filed in January, accusing Clinton of lying "publicly, unambiguously, and with obvious malicious intent" when she claimed Gabbard was "the favorite of the Russians," in an October 2019 interview.

Gabbard's withdrawal of the defamation claim against Clinton clearly represents the final stage of 'bending the knee' to the party.....

[May 26, 2020] News Stories Avoid Naming Israel by Philip Giraldi

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... In reality, the part left out of the story is that the phone call to Kislyak on December 22, 2016, was made by Flynn at the direction of Jared Kushner, who in turn had been approached by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu had learned that the Obama Administrating was going to abstain on a United Nations vote condemning the Israeli settlements policy, meaning that for the first time in years a U.N. resolution critical of Israel would pass without drawing a U.S. veto. Kushner, acting for Netanyahu, asked Flynn to contact each delegate from the various countries on the Security Council to delay or kill the resolution. Flynn agreed to do so, which included a call to the Russians. Kislyak took the call but did not agree to veto Security Council Resolution 2334, which passed unanimously on December 23 rd . ..."
"... The phone call made at the request of Israel was neither benign nor ethical as the Barack Administration was still in power and managing the nation's foreign policy. At the time, son-in-law Jared Kushner was Trump's point man on the Middle East. He and his family have extensive ties both to Israel and to Netanyahu personally, to include Netanyahu's staying at the Kushner family home in New York. The Kushner Family Foundation has funded some of Israel's illegal settlements and also a number of conservative political groups in that country. Jared has served as a director of that foundation and it is reported that he failed to disclose the relationship when he filled out his background investigation sheet for a security clearance. All of which suggests that if you are looking for possible foreign government collusion with the incoming Trumpsters, look no further. ..."
"... And it should be observed that the Israelis were not exactly shy about their disapproval of Obama and their willingness to express their views to the incoming Trump. Kushner went far beyond merely disagreeing over an aspect of foreign policy as he was actively trying to clandestinely subvert and reverse a decision made by his own legally constituted government. His closeness to Netanyahu made him, in intelligence terms, a quite likely Israeli government agent of influence, even if he didn't quite see himself that way. ..."
"... Kushner's actions, as well as those of Flynn, would most certainly have been covered by the Logan Act of 1799, which bars private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on behalf of the United States and also could be construed as a "conspiracy against the United States." But in spite of all that the investigation went after Flynn instead of Kushner. As Kushner is Jewish and certainly could be accused of dual loyalty in extremis , that part of the story obviously makes many in the U.S. Establishment and media uncomfortable, so it was and continues to be both ignored and expunged from the record as quickly as possible. ..."
May 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

There are two stories that seem to have been under-reported in the past couple of weeks. The first involves Michael Flynn's dealings with the Russian United Nations Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. And the second describes yet another bit of espionage conducted by a foreign country directed against the United States. Both stories involve the State of Israel.

The bigger story is, of course, the dismissal by Attorney General William Barr of the criminal charges against former National Security Advisor General Michael Flynn based on malfeasance by the FBI investigators. The curious aspect of the story as it is being related by the mainstream media is that it repeatedly refers to Flynn as having unauthorized contacts with the Russian Ambassador and then having lied about it. The implication is that there was something decidedly shady about Flynn talking to the Russians and that the Russians were up to something.

In reality, the part left out of the story is that the phone call to Kislyak on December 22, 2016, was made by Flynn at the direction of Jared Kushner, who in turn had been approached by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu had learned that the Obama Administrating was going to abstain on a United Nations vote condemning the Israeli settlements policy, meaning that for the first time in years a U.N. resolution critical of Israel would pass without drawing a U.S. veto. Kushner, acting for Netanyahu, asked Flynn to contact each delegate from the various countries on the Security Council to delay or kill the resolution. Flynn agreed to do so, which included a call to the Russians. Kislyak took the call but did not agree to veto Security Council Resolution 2334, which passed unanimously on December 23 rd .

In taking the phone calls from a soon-to-be senior American official who would within weeks be part of a new administration in Washington, the Russians did nothing wrong, but the media is acting like there was some kind of Kremlin conspiracy seeking to undermine U.S. democracy. It would not be inappropriate to have some conversations with an incoming government team and Kislyak also did nothing that might be regarded as particularly responsive to Team Trump overtures since he voted contrary to Flynn's request.

The phone call made at the request of Israel was neither benign nor ethical as the Barack Administration was still in power and managing the nation's foreign policy. At the time, son-in-law Jared Kushner was Trump's point man on the Middle East. He and his family have extensive ties both to Israel and to Netanyahu personally, to include Netanyahu's staying at the Kushner family home in New York. The Kushner Family Foundation has funded some of Israel's illegal settlements and also a number of conservative political groups in that country. Jared has served as a director of that foundation and it is reported that he failed to disclose the relationship when he filled out his background investigation sheet for a security clearance. All of which suggests that if you are looking for possible foreign government collusion with the incoming Trumpsters, look no further.

And it should be observed that the Israelis were not exactly shy about their disapproval of Obama and their willingness to express their views to the incoming Trump. Kushner went far beyond merely disagreeing over an aspect of foreign policy as he was actively trying to clandestinely subvert and reverse a decision made by his own legally constituted government. His closeness to Netanyahu made him, in intelligence terms, a quite likely Israeli government agent of influence, even if he didn't quite see himself that way.

Kushner's actions, as well as those of Flynn, would most certainly have been covered by the Logan Act of 1799, which bars private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on behalf of the United States and also could be construed as a "conspiracy against the United States." But in spite of all that the investigation went after Flynn instead of Kushner. As Kushner is Jewish and certainly could be accused of dual loyalty in extremis , that part of the story obviously makes many in the U.S. Establishment and media uncomfortable, so it was and continues to be both ignored and expunged from the record as quickly as possible.

The second story , which has basically been made to disappear, relates to spying by Israel against critics in the United States. The revelation that Israel was again using its telecommunications skills to spy on foreigners came from an Oakland California federal court lawsuit initiated by Facebook (FB) against the Israeli surveillance technology company NSO Group. FB claimed that NSO has been using servers located in the United States to infect with spyware hundreds of smartphones being used by attorneys, journalists, human rights activists, critics of Israel and even of government officials. NSO allegedly used WhatsApp, a messaging app owned by FB, to hack into the phones and install malware that would enable the company to monitor what was going on with the devices. It did so by employing networks of remote servers located in California to enter the accounts.

NSO has inevitably claimed that they do indeed provide spyware, but that it is sold to clients who themselves operate it with the "advice and technical support to assist customers in setting up" but it also promotes its products as being "used to stop terrorism, curb violent crime, and save lives." It also asserts that its software cannot be used against U.S. phone numbers.

Facebook, which did its own extensive research into NSO activity, alleges that NSO rented a Los Angeles-based server from a U.S. company called QuadraNet that it then used to launch 720 hacks on smartphones and other devices. It further claims in the court filing that the company reverse-engineering WhatsApp, using an program that it developed to access WhatsApp's servers and deploy "its spyware against approximately 1,400 targets" before " covertly transmit[ting] malicious code through WhatsApp servers and inject[ing]" spyware into telephones without the knowledge of the owners."

The filing goes on to assert that the "Defendants had no authority to access WhatsApp's servers with an imposter program, manipulate network settings, and commandeer the servers to attack WhatsApp users. That invasion of WhatsApp's servers and users' devices constitutes unlawful computer hacking."

NSO, which is largely staffed by former (sic) Israeli intelligence officers, had previously been in the news for its proprietary spyware known as Pegasus, which "can gather information about a mobile phone's location, access its camera, microphone and internal hard drive, and covertly record emails, phone calls and text messages." Pegasus was reportedly used in the killing of Saudi dissident journalist Adnan Kashoggi in Istanbul last year and it has more recently been suggested as a resource for tracking coronavirus distance violators. Outside experts have accused the company of selling its technology and expertise to countries that have used it to spy on dissidents, journalists and other critics.

Israel routinely exploits the access provided by its telecommunications industry to spy on the host countries where those companies operate. The companies themselves report regularly back to Mossad contacts and the technology they provide routinely has a "backdoor" for secretly accessing the information accessible through the software. In fact, Israel conducts espionage and influence operations both directly and through proxies against the United States more aggressively than any other "friendly" country, which once upon a time included being able to tap into the "secure" White House phones used by Bill Clinton to speak with Monica Lewinsky.

Last September, it was revealed that the placement of technical surveillance devices by Israel in Washington D.C. was clearly intended to target cellphone communications to and from the Trump White House. As the president frequently chats with top aides and friends on non-secure phones, the operation sought to pick up conversations involving Trump with the expectation that the security-averse president would say things off the record that might be considered top secret.

A Politico report detailed how "miniature surveillance devices" referred to as "Stingrays" were used to imitate regular cell phone towers to fool phones being used nearby into providing information on their locations and identities. According to the article, the devices are referred to by technicians as "international mobile subscriber identity-catchers or IMSI-catchers, they also can capture the contents of calls and data use."

Over one year ago, government security agencies discovered the electronic footprints that indicated the presence of the surveillance devices near the White House. Forensic analysis involved dismantling the devices to let them "tell you a little about their history, where the parts and pieces come from, how old are they, who had access to them, and that will help get you to what the origins are." One source observed afterwards that "It was pretty clear that the Israelis were responsible."

So two significant stories currently making the rounds have been bowdlerized and disappeared to make the Israeli role in manipulating and spying against the United States go away. They are only two of many stories framed by a Zionist dominated media to control the narrative in a way favorable to the Jewish state. One would think that having a president of the United States who is the most pro-Israel ever, which is saying a great deal in and of itself, would be enough, but unfortunately when dealing with folks like Benjamin Netanyahu there can never be any restraint when dealing with the "useful idiots" in Washington.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .

[May 26, 2020] Zionists Have Feelings Too by Philip Giraldi

May 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

The new Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has apparently learned how to behave from the Corbyn experience. He has been crawling on his belly to Jewish interests ever since he took over and has even submitted to the counseling provided by the government's "Independent Adviser on Antisemitism," a special interests office not too dissimilar to the abomination at the U.S. State Department where Elan Carr is the Special Envoy for Monitoring and Combating anti-Semitism.

The adviser, Lord Mann, who like Carr is of course Jewish, has now insisted to Starmer that the use of words like ''Zionist'' or ''Zionism'' in a critical context must be regarded as anti-Semitism if Starmer wants to establish what he refers to as "comprehensive anti-racism" within the Labour Party. Mann wants to confront what he refers to as "anti-Jewish racism" in Britain, saying that "the thing Keir Starmer has to do is stick with the clear definition of antisemitism, and not waver from that. The second thing he should do if he wants to really imbed comprehensive anti-racism including antisemitism across the Labour Party – then the use of the words Zionist or Zionism as a term of hatred, abuse, of contempt, as a negative term – that should outlawed in the party."

Perhaps not surprisingly Lord Mann's comments came during an online discussion with the Antisemitism Policy Trust's director Danny Stone, one of the major components of Israel's powerful U.K. Jewish/Zionist Lobby. A majority of British Members of Parliament of both parties are registered supporters of "Friends of Israel" associations, another indication of how Jewish power is manifest in Britain and of how spineless the country's politicians have become.

Mann added: "If he does that, it gives him [Starmer] the tools to clear out those who choose to be antisemitic, rather than those who do so purely through their ignorance as opposed to their calculated behavior. I think he is seeing tackling antisemitism as one of those things that will be shown to mark that he is a leader."

So, in Britain you are still presumably free to criticize Zionism, but not Israelis, as long as you do not use the word itself. If you do use it in a critical way you will be one of those presumably who will be "cleared out [of the Labour Party] for choosing to be antisemitic." Do not be alarmed if similar nonsense takes hold in the United States, where already criticism of Israel, such as it is, eschews the word Jewish in any context. Fearful of retribution that can include loss of employment as happened to Rick Sanchez at CNN, the few who are bold enough to criticize Israel regularly employ generic euphemisms like the "Israel Lobby" or "Zionism," ignoring the fact that what drives the process is ethno- or religious based. However one chooses to obfuscate it, the power of Israel in the United States is undeniably based on Jewish money, media control and easy access to politicians. When the friends of Israel in America follow the British lead and figure out that the word Zionist has become pejorative they too will no doubt move to make it unacceptable in polite discourse in the media and elsewhere. Then many critics of the Jewish state will have no vocabulary left to use, nowhere to go, as in Britain, and that is surely the intention.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .

[May 23, 2020] Leading Neocon Directs Pentagon Middle East Planning, by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... The GWOT was promoted with brain-dead expressions like "there's a new sheriff in town" which, after the destruction of large parts of the Middle East and Central Asia, later morphed into the matrix of the God-awful belief that something called "American Exceptionalism" existed. ..."
"... Secretary of State Mike Pompeo puts it another way, that the U.S. is a "force for good," but it was former Secretary Madeleine Albright who expressed the fantasy best , stating that " if we have to use force, it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future, and we see the danger here to all of us." ..."
"... One aspect of the American heavy footprint that is little noted is the ruin of many formerly functioning countries that it brings with it. Iraq and Libya might have been dictatorships before the U.S. intervened, but they gave their people a higher standard of living and more security than has been the case ever since. ..."
"... Libya, destroyed by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, had the highest standard of living in Africa. Iraq is currently one of the world's most corrupt countries, so corrupt that there have been massive street demonstrations recently against the government's inability to do anything good for the its own people. Electricity and water supplies are, for example, less reliable than before the U.S. intervened seventeen years ago. ..."
"... The failures of the American foreign policy since George W. Bush have been accredited to the so-called neoconservatives, who successfully hijacked the Bush presidency. Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, Scooter Libby and the merry crowd at the American Enterprise Institute had a major ally in Vice President Dick Cheney and were pretty much able to run wild, creating a casus belli for invading Iraq that was largely fabricated and which was completely against actual U.S. interests in the region. Apparently no one ever told Wolfie that Iraq was the Arab bulwark against Iranian ambitions and that Tehran would be the only major beneficiary in taking down Saddam Hussein. Since Iraq, the chameleonlike neocons have had a prominent voice in the mainstream media and have also played major roles in the shaping the foreign and national security policies of the presidencies that have followed George W. Bush. ..."
"... The $20 billion disbursed during the 15-month proconsulship of the CPA came from frozen and seized Iraqi assets held in the U.S. Most of the money was in the form of cash, flown into Iraq on C-130s in huge plastic shrink-wrapped pallets holding 40 "cashpaks," each cashpak having $1.6 million in $100 bills. Twelve billion dollars moved that way between May 2003 and June 2004, drawn from the Iraqi accounts administered by the New York Federal Reserve Bank. The $100 bills weighed an estimated 363 tons. ..."
"... Once in Iraq, there was virtually no accountability over how the money was spent. There was also considerable money "off the books," including as much as $4 billion from illegal oil exports. Thus, the country was awash in unaccountable cash. British sources report that the CPA contracts that were not handed out to cronies were sold to the highest bidder, with bribes as high as $300,000 being demanded for particularly lucrative reconstruction contracts. The contracts were especially attractive because no work or results were necessarily expected in return. ..."
"... Many of its staff, like Michael Fleischer, were selected for their political affiliations rather than their knowledge of the jobs they were supposed to perform and many of them were not surprisingly neocons. One of them has now resurfaced in a top Pentagon position. She is Simone Ledeen , daughter of leading neoconservative Michael Ledeen. Unable to communicate in Arabic and with no relevant experience or appropriate educational training, she nevertheless became in 2003 a senior advisor for northern Iraq at the Ministry of Finance in Baghdad. ..."
"... Simone has now been appointed deputy assistant secretary of defense (DASD) for the Middle East, which is the principal position for shaping Pentagon policy for that region. ..."
"... Apparently Simone's gene pool makes her qualified to lead the Pentagon into the Middle East, where she no doubt has views that make her compatible with the Trump/Pompeo current spin on the Iranian threat. The neocon Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) gushed "Simone Ledeen has worked at the Pentagon & Treasury and at a major bank. Exactly what we should want for such a position." Of course, FDD, the leading advocate of war with Iran, also wants someone who will green light destroying the Persians. ..."
May 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

The Global War on Terror or GWOT was declared in the wake of 9/11 by President George W. Bush. It basically committed the United States to work to eliminate all "terrorist" groups worldwide, whether or not the countries being targeted agreed that they were beset by terrorists and whether or not they welcomed U.S. "help." The GWOT was promoted with brain-dead expressions like "there's a new sheriff in town" which, after the destruction of large parts of the Middle East and Central Asia, later morphed into the matrix of the God-awful belief that something called "American Exceptionalism" existed.

With a national election lurking on the horizon we will no doubt be hearing more about Exceptionalism from various candidates seeking to support the premise that the United States can interfere in every country on the planet because it is, as the expression goes, exceptional. That is generally how Donald Trump and hardline Republicans see the world, that sovereignty exercised by foreign governments is and should be limited by the reach of the U.S. military. Surrounding a competitor with military bases and warships is a concept that many in Washington are currently trying to sell regarding a suitable response to the Chinese economic and political challenge.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo puts it another way, that the U.S. is a "force for good," but it was former Secretary Madeleine Albright who expressed the fantasy best , stating that " if we have to use force, it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future, and we see the danger here to all of us." She also said that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children through U.S. imposed sanctions was " a very hard choice, but the price -- we think the price is worth it." That is the basic credo of the liberal interventionists. Either way, the U.S. gets to make the decisions over life and death, which, since the GWOT began, have destroyed or otherwise compromised the lives of millions of people, mostly concentrated in Asia.

One aspect of the American heavy footprint that is little noted is the ruin of many formerly functioning countries that it brings with it. Iraq and Libya might have been dictatorships before the U.S. intervened, but they gave their people a higher standard of living and more security than has been the case ever since.

Libya, destroyed by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, had the highest standard of living in Africa. Iraq is currently one of the world's most corrupt countries, so corrupt that there have been massive street demonstrations recently against the government's inability to do anything good for the its own people. Electricity and water supplies are, for example, less reliable than before the U.S. intervened seventeen years ago.

Add Afghanistan to the "most corrupt" list after 19 years of American tutelage and one comes up with a perfect trifecta of countries that have been ruined. In a more rational world, one might have hoped that at least one American politician might have stood up and admitted that we have screwed up royally and it is beyond time to close the overseas bases and bring our troops home. Well, actually one did so in explicit terms, but that was Tulsi Gabbard and she was marginalized as soon as she started her run. Alluding to how Washington's gift to the world has been corruption would be to implicitly deny American Exceptionalism, which is a no-no.

The failures of the American foreign policy since George W. Bush have been accredited to the so-called neoconservatives, who successfully hijacked the Bush presidency. Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, Scooter Libby and the merry crowd at the American Enterprise Institute had a major ally in Vice President Dick Cheney and were pretty much able to run wild, creating a casus belli for invading Iraq that was largely fabricated and which was completely against actual U.S. interests in the region. Apparently no one ever told Wolfie that Iraq was the Arab bulwark against Iranian ambitions and that Tehran would be the only major beneficiary in taking down Saddam Hussein. Since Iraq, the chameleonlike neocons have had a prominent voice in the mainstream media and have also played major roles in the shaping the foreign and national security policies of the presidencies that have followed George W. Bush.

Ironically, neocons mostly were critics of Donald Trump the candidate because he talked "nonsense" about ending "useless wars" but they have been trickling back into his administration since he has made it clear that he is not about to end anything and might in fact be planning to attack Iran and maybe even Venezuela. The thought of new wars, particularly against Israel's enemy Iran, makes neocons salivate.

The disastrous American occupation of Iraq from 2003-2004 was mismanaged by something called the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), which might have been the most corrupt quasi-government body to be seen in recent history. At least $20 billion that belonged to the Iraqi people was wasted, together with hundreds of millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars. Exactly how many billions of additional dollars were squandered, stolen, given away, or simply lost will never be known because the deliberate decision by the CPA not to meter oil exports means that no one will ever know how much revenue was generated during 2003 and 2004.

Some of the corruption grew out of the misguided neoconservative agenda for Iraq, which meant that a serious reconstruction effort came second to doling out the spoils to the war's most fervent supporters. The CPA brought in scores of bright, young true believers who were nearly universally unqualified. Many were recruited through the Heritage Foundation or American Enterprise Institute websites, where they had posted their résumés. They were paid six-figure salaries out of Iraqi funds, and most served in 90-day rotations before returning home with their war stories. One such volunteer was former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer's older brother Michael who, though utterly unqualified, was named director of private-sector development for all of Iraq.

The $20 billion disbursed during the 15-month proconsulship of the CPA came from frozen and seized Iraqi assets held in the U.S. Most of the money was in the form of cash, flown into Iraq on C-130s in huge plastic shrink-wrapped pallets holding 40 "cashpaks," each cashpak having $1.6 million in $100 bills. Twelve billion dollars moved that way between May 2003 and June 2004, drawn from the Iraqi accounts administered by the New York Federal Reserve Bank. The $100 bills weighed an estimated 363 tons.

Once in Iraq, there was virtually no accountability over how the money was spent. There was also considerable money "off the books," including as much as $4 billion from illegal oil exports. Thus, the country was awash in unaccountable cash. British sources report that the CPA contracts that were not handed out to cronies were sold to the highest bidder, with bribes as high as $300,000 being demanded for particularly lucrative reconstruction contracts. The contracts were especially attractive because no work or results were necessarily expected in return.

Many of its staff, like Michael Fleischer, were selected for their political affiliations rather than their knowledge of the jobs they were supposed to perform and many of them were not surprisingly neocons. One of them has now resurfaced in a top Pentagon position. She is Simone Ledeen , daughter of leading neoconservative Michael Ledeen. Unable to communicate in Arabic and with no relevant experience or appropriate educational training, she nevertheless became in 2003 a senior advisor for northern Iraq at the Ministry of Finance in Baghdad.

Simone has now been appointed deputy assistant secretary of defense (DASD) for the Middle East, which is the principal position for shaping Pentagon policy for that region. Post 9/11, Ledeen's leading neocon father Michael was the source of the expressions "creative destruction" and "total war" as relating to the Muslim Middle East, where "civilian lives cannot be the total war's first priority The purpose of total war is to permanently force your will onto another people." He is also a noted Iranophobe, blaming numerous terrorist acts on that country even when such claims were ridiculous. He might also have been involved in the generation in Italy of the fabricated Iraq Niger uranium documents that contributed greatly to the march to war with Saddam.

Apparently Simone's gene pool makes her qualified to lead the Pentagon into the Middle East, where she no doubt has views that make her compatible with the Trump/Pompeo current spin on the Iranian threat. The neocon Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) gushed "Simone Ledeen has worked at the Pentagon & Treasury and at a major bank. Exactly what we should want for such a position." Of course, FDD, the leading advocate of war with Iran, also wants someone who will green light destroying the Persians.

Ledeen, a Brandeis graduate with an MBA from an Italian university, worked in and out of government in various advisory capacities before joining Standard Chartered Bank. One of her more interesting roles was as an advisor to General Michael Flynn in Afghanistan at a time when Flynn was collaborating with her father on a book that eventually came out in 2016 entitled The Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and its Allies. The book asserts that there is a global war going on in which "We face a working coalition that extends from North Korea and China to Russia, Iran, Syria, Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua." The book predictably claims that Iran is at the center of what is an anti-American alliance.

The extent to which Simone has absorbed her father's views and agrees with them can, of course, be questioned, but her appointment is yet another indication, together with the jobs previously given to John Bolton, Mike Pompeo and Elliot Abrams , that the Trump Administration is intent on pursuing a hardline aggressive policy in the Middle East and elsewhere. It is also an unfortunate indication that the neoconservatives, pronounced dead after the election of Trump, are back and resuming their drive to obtain the positions of power that will permit endless war, starting with Iran.

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.


Beavertales , says: Show Comment May 21, 2020 at 1:31 pm GMT

'Maximum Pressure' is being exerted on Trump.

How was he leveraged to order the assassination of Iran's general Qasem Soleimani?

It's all about manufacturing new threats to his presidency, and then offering to switch them off when he trades something the neocons want. The politics of extortion.

KA , says: Show Comment May 21, 2020 at 5:35 pm GMT
If "??Operation Iraqi Freedom"? may accurately be regarded as Wolfowitz's War in its conception, then the aftermath of the war should be viewed as the Kissinger-Feith Occupation" and continuation of illegal sanctions by "Democrat, Bill Clinton, and his meretricious Middle East foreign policy team of Samuel "Sandy" Berger, Madeleine "??it's worth it"? Albright, Dennis Ross, and Australian import, Martin Indyk. " but it was "
Kissinger's partner and frontman in Baghdad, Paul "??Jerry"? Bremer, which has effectively destroyed Iraq as a nation-state, " and But within weeks of the invasion, Garner's tenure as head of the post-war planning office was over: he was replaced by Paul Bremer, a terrorism expert and protege of Henry Kissinger. Bremer immediately countermanded all three of Garner's "musts". [My emphasis.] When, eventually, Garner confronted Rumsfeld, telling him: "There is still time to rectify this," Rumsfeld refused to do so. And who was assisting Dr. Kissinger to program the new U.S. proconsul in Baghdad? Who was Paul Bremer's primary contact at the Pentagon, overseeing the occupation from Washington, with the blessing of Don Rumsfeld? None other than the award winning hyperZionist zealot, Douglas "clean break" Feith, the man who had advised Likud icon, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to attack Iraq, Syria and Lebanon in 1996 and tear up the Oslo "peace process ". Feith is a protege of Richard Perle. Feith is on the Advisory Board of JINSA ,. Feith is a face card in the deck of the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, headquartered in Jerusalem. The law office he founded in 1986, Feith & Zell, is based in Israel, catering to Jewish-American "??settlers"? on the West Bank. "

https://www.takimag.com/article/the_kissinger_connection/

KA , says: Show Comment May 21, 2020 at 5:38 pm GMT
If nothing else, Bob Woodward's last fat book on Iraq, State of Denial, has performed a valuable public service by ejecting the furtive Kissinger from the shadows. Woodward reports that vice president Dick Cheney confided to him (Woodward) in the summer of 2005: "I probably talk to Henry Kissinger more than I talk to anybody else. He just comes by and I guess at least once a month, Scooter [Libby] and I sit down with him." [Page 406.] Woodward goes on to state: "The president also met privately with Kissinger every couple of months, making the former secretary the most regular and frequent outside adviser to Bush on foreign affairs." https://www.takimag.com/article/the_kissinger_connection/

We know who did what ,when and how .

Mustapha Mond , says: Show Comment May 21, 2020 at 7:30 pm GMT
Regarding Madeleine Albright: "She also said that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children through U.S. imposed sanctions was " a very hard choice, but the price -- we think the price is worth it." That is the basic credo of the liberal interventionists."

I think 'liberal interventionist' is a bit too weak for the 'lovely' Ms Albright and her (in)famous quote.

Instead, let's try, "That is the basic credo of psychopathically sadistic zionist monsters who exquisitely enjoy the thought of Arab children dying agonizingly slow deaths of preventable diseases and starvation."

Ah, yes. That's a much more accurate assessment of the situation ..

Meena , says: Show Comment May 22, 2020 at 3:20 am GMT
Nixon is recorded as saying, "Any settlement will have to be imposed by both the US and the Soviet Union". Yet, as he had told the Russian ambassador to Washington, "I don't want to anger the American Jews who hold important positions in the press, radio and television".

The Jewish lobby has enormous influence on Congress. Nixon wanted to wait until he had won his reelection and concluded the withdrawal of US forces from Vietnam and then he could face down the Jewish lobby. Later he told the ambassador, "I will deliver the Israelis".

In one of his final acts in office, he ordered a complete cutoff of assistance to Israel. It was not to be.

Watergate consumed his presidency. https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/21/a-machiavellian-us-in-the-middle-east/

Was this Watergate a payback? Carter lost. So did Bush Sr and Kennedys died .

[May 21, 2020] Russophobia in the Age of Donald Trump: The Narrative of Trump's "Collusion" with Russia by Andrei P. Tsygankov

May 21, 2020 | www.oxfordscholarship.com

During the US presidential election campaign, American media developed yet another perception of Russia as reflected in the narrative of Trump's collusion with the Kremlin. 1 Having originated in liberal media and building on the previous perceptions of neo-Soviet autocracy and foreign threat, the new perception of Russia was that of the enemy that won the war against the United States. By electing the Kremlin's favored candidate, America was defeated by Russia. As a CNN columnist wrote, "The Russians really are here, infiltrating every corner of the country, with the single goal of disrupting the American way of life." 2 The two assumptions behind the new media narrative were that Putin was an enemy and that Trump was compromised by Putin. The inevitable conclusion was that Trump could not be a patriot and potentially was a traitor prepared to act against US interests.

The new narrative was assisted by the fact that Trump presented a radically different perspective on Russia than Clinton and the US establishment. The American political class had been in agreement that Russia displayed an aggressive foreign policy seeking to destroy the US-centered international order. Influential politicians, both Republicans and Democrats, commonly referred to Russian president Putin as an extremely dangerous KGB spy with no soul. Instead, Trump saw Russia's international interests as not fundamentally different from America's. He advocated that the United States to find a way to align its policies and priorities in defeating terrorism in the Middle East -- a goal that Russia shared -- with the Kremlin's. Trump promised to form new alliances to "unite the civilized world against Radical Islamic Terrorism" and to eradicate it "completely from the face of the Earth." 3 He hinted that he was prepared to revisit the thorny issues of Western sanctions against (p.83) the Russian economy and the recognition of Crimea as a part of Russia. Trump never commented on Russia's political system but expressed his admiration for Putin's leadership and high level of domestic support. 4

Capitalizing on the difference between Trump's views and those of the Democratic Party nominee, Hillary Clinton, the liberal media referred to Trump as the Kremlin-compromised candidate. Commentators and columnists with the New York Times , such as Paul Krugman, referred to Trump as the "Siberian" candidate. 5 Commentators and pundits, including those with academic and political credentials, developed the theory that the United States was under attack. The former ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, wrote in the Washington Post that Russia had attacked "our sovereignty" and continued to "watch us do nothing" because of the partisan divide. He compared the Kremlin's actions with Pearl Harbor or 9/11 and warned that Russia was likely to perform repeat assaults in 2018 and 2020. 6 The historian Timothy Snyder went further, comparing the election of Trump to a loss of war, which Snyder said was the basic aim of the enemy. Writing in the New York Daily News , he asserted, "We no longer need to wonder what it would be like to lose a war on our own territory. We just lost one to Russia, and the consequence was the election of Donald Trump." 7

The election of Trump prompted the liberal media to discuss Russia-related fears. The leading theory was that Trump would now compromise America's interests and rule the country on behalf of Putin. Thomas Friedman of the New York Times called for actions against Russia and praised "patriotic" Republican senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham for being tough on Trump. 8 MSNBC host Rachel Maddow asked whether Trump was actually under Putin's control. Citing Trump's views and his associates' travel to Moscow, she told viewers, "We are also starting to see (p.84) what may be signs of continuing [Russian] influence in our country, not just during the campaign but during the administration -- basically, signs of what could be a continuing operation." 9 Another New York Times columnist, Nicholas Kristof, published a column titled "There's a Smell of Treason in the Air," arguing that the FBI's investigation of the Trump presidential campaign's collusion "with a foreign power so as to win an election" was an investigation of whether such collusion "would amount to treason." 10 Responding to Trump's statement that his phone was tapped during the election campaign, the Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum tweeted that "Trump's insane 'GCHQ tapped my phone' theory came from . . . Moscow." McFaul and many others then endorsed and retweeted the message. 11

To many within the US media, Trump's lack of interest in promoting global institutions and his publicly expressed doubts that the Kremlin was behind cyberattacks on the Democratic National Committee (DNC) served to exacerbate the problem. Several intelligence leaks to the press and investigations by Congress and the FBI contributed to the image of a president who was not motivated by US interests. The US intelligence report on Russia's alleged hacking of the US electoral system released on January 8, 2017, served to consolidate the image of Russia as an enemy. Leaks to the press have continued throughout Trump's presidency. Someone in the administration informed the press that Trump called Putin to congratulate him on his victory in elections on March 18, 2018, despite Trump's advisers' warning against making such a call. 12

In the meantime, investigations of Trump's alleged "collusion" with Russia were failing to produce substantive evidence. Facts that some associates of Trump sought to meet or met with members of Russia's government did not lead to evidence of sustained contacts or collaboration. It was not proven that the Kremlin's "black dossier" on Trump compiled by British intelligence officer (p.85) Christopher Steele and leaked to CNN was truthful. Russian activity on American social networks such as Facebook and Twitter was not found to be conclusive in determining outcomes of the elections. 13 In February 2018, a year after launching investigation, Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted thirteen Russian nationals for allegedly interfering in the US 2016 presidential elections, yet their connection to Putin or Trump was not established. On March 12, 2018, Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Richard Burr stated that he had not yet seen any evidence of collusion. 14 Representative Mike Conaway, the Republican leading the Russia investigation, announced the end of the committee's probe of Russian meddling in the election. 15

Trump was also not acting toward Russia in the way the US media expected. His views largely reflected those of the military and national security establishment and disappointed some of his supporters. 16 The US National Security Strategy and new Defense Strategy presented Russia as a leading security threat, alongside China, Iran, and North Korea. The president made it clear that he wanted to engage in tough bargaining with Russia by insisting on American terms. 17 Instead of improving ties with Russia, let alone acting on behalf of the Kremlin, Trump contributed to new crises in bilateral relations that had to do with the two sides' principally different perceptions. While the Kremlin expected Washington to normalize relations, the United States assumed Russia's weakness and expected it to comply with Washington's priorities regarding the Middle East, Ukraine, and Afghanistan and nuclear and cyber issues. 18 Trump also authorized the largest expulsion of Russian diplomats in US history and ordered several missile strikes against Assad's Russia-supported positions in Syria, each time provoking a crisis in relations with Moscow. Even Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, whom Rachel Maddow suspected of being appointed on Putin's advice to "weaken" the State Department and "bleed out" (p.86) the FBI, 19 was replaced by John Bolton. The latter's foreign policy reputation was that of a hawk, including on Russia. 20

Responding to these developments, the media focused on fears of being attacked by the Kremlin and on Trump not doing enough to protect the country. These fears went beyond the alleged cyber interference in the US presidential elections and included infiltration of American media and social networks and attacks on congressional elections and the country's most sensitive infrastructure, such as electric grids, water-processing plants, banking networks, and transportation facilities. In order to prevent such developments, media commentators and editorial writers recommended additional pressures on the Kremlin and counteroffensive operations. 21 One commentator recommended, as the best defense from Russia's plans to interfere with another election in the United States, launching a cyberattack on Russia's own presidential elections in March 2018, to "disrupt the stability of Vladimir Putin's regime." 22 A New York Times editorial summarized the mood by challenging President Trump to confront Russia further: "If Mr. Trump isn't Mr. Putin's lackey, it's past time for him to prove it." 23 The burden of proof was now on Trump's shoulders. Opposition to the "Collusion" Narrative

In contrast to highly critical views of Russia in the dominant media, conservative, libertarian, and progressive sources offered different assessments. Initially, opposition to the collusion narrative came from the alternative media, yet gradually -- in response to scant evidence of Trump's collusion -- it incorporated voices within the mainstream.

The conservative media did not support the view that Russia "stole" elections and presented Trump as a patriot who wanted to make America great rather than develop "cozy" relationships with (p.87) the Kremlin. Writing in the American Interest , Walter Russell Mead argued that Trump aimed to demonstrate the United States' superiority by capitalizing on its military and technological advantages. He did not sound like a Russian mole. Challenging the liberal media, the author called for "an intellectually solvent and emotionally stable press" and wrote that "if President Trump really is a Putin pawn, his foreign policy will start looking much more like Barack Obama's." 24 Instead of viewing Trump as compromised by the Kremlin, sources such Breitbart and Fox News attributed the blame to the deep state, "the complex of bureaucrats, technocrats, and plutocrats," including the intelligence agencies, that seeks to "derail, or at least to de-legitimize, the Trump presidency" by engaging in accusations and smear campaigns. 25

Echoing Trump's own views, some conservatives expressed their admiration for Putin as a dynamic leader superior to Obama. In particular, they praised Putin for his ability to defend Russia's "traditional values" and great-power status. 26 Neoconservative and paleoconservative publications like the National Review , the Weekly Standard, Human Events Online , and others critiqued Obama's "feckless foreign policy," characterized by "fruitless accommodationism," contrasting it with Putin's skilled and calculative geopolitical "game of chess." 27 A Washington Post / ABC News poll revealed that among Republicans, 75% approved of Trump's approach on Russia relative; 40% of all respondents approved. 28 This did not mean that conservatives and Republicans were "infiltrated" by the Kremlin. Mutual Russian and American conservative influences were limited and nonstructured. 29 The approval of Putin as a leader by American conservatives meant that they shared a certain commonality of ideas and were equally critical of liberal media and globalization. 30

Progressive and libertarian media also did not support the narrative of collusion. Gary Leupp at CounterPunch found the (p.88) narrative to be serving the purpose of reviving and even intensifying "Cold War-era Russophobia," with Russia being an "adversary" "only in that it opposes the expansion of NATO, especially to include Ukraine and Georgia." 31 Justin Raimondo at Antiwar.com questioned the narrative by pointing to Russia's bellicose rhetoric in response to Trump's actions. 32 Glenn Greenwald and Zaid Jilani at Intercept reminded readers that, overall, Trump proved to be far more confrontational toward Russia than Obama, thereby endangering America. 33 In particular Trump severed diplomatic ties with Russia, armed Ukraine, appointed anti-Russia hawks, such as ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, National Security Advisor John Bolton, and Secretary of State Michal Pompeo to key foreign policy positions, antagonized Russia's Iranian allies, and imposed tough sanctions against Russian business with ties to the Kremlin. 34

The dominant liberal media ignored opposing perspectives or presented them as compromised by Russia. For instance, in amplifying the view that Putin "stole" the elections, the Washington Post sought to discredit alternative sources of news and commentaries as infiltrated by the Kremlin's propaganda. On November 24, 2016, the newspaper published an interview with the executive director of a new website, PropOrNot, who preferred to remain anonymous, and claimed that the Russian government circulated pro-Trump articles before the election. Without providing evidence on explaining its methodology, the group identified more than two hundred websites that published or echoed Russian propaganda, including WikiLeaks and the Drudge Report , left-wing websites such as CounterPunch, Truthout, Black Agenda Report, Truthdig , and Naked Capitalism , as well as libertarian venues such as Antiwar.com and the Ron Paul Institute. 35 Another mainstream liberal outlet, CNN, warned the American people to be vigilant against the Kremlin's alleged efforts to spread propaganda: "Enormous numbers of (p.89) Americans are not only failing to fight back, they are also unwitting collaborators -- reading, retweeting, sharing and reacting to Russian propaganda and provocations every day." 36

However, voices of dissent were now heard even in the mainstream media. Masha Gessen of the New Yorker said that Trump's tweet about Robert Mueller's indictments and Moscow's "laughing its ass off" was "unusually (perhaps accidentally) accurate." 37 She pointed out that Russians of all ideological convictions "are remarkably united in finding the American obsession with Russian meddling to be ridiculous." 38 The editor of the influential Politico , Blake Hounshell, confessed that he was a Russiagate skeptic because even though "Trump was all too happy to collude with Putin," Mueller's team never found a "smoking gun." 39 In reviewing the book on Russia's role in the 2016 election Russian Roulette , veteran New York Times reporter Steven Lee Myers noted that the Kremlin's meddling "simply exploited the vulgarity already plaguing American political campaigns" and that the veracity of many accusations remained unclear. 40 Explaining Russophobia

The high-intensity Russophobia within the American media, overblown even by the standards of previous threat narratives, could no longer be explained by differences in national values or by bilateral tensions. The new fear of Russia also reflected domestic political polarization and growing national unease over America's identity and future direction.

The narrative of collusion in the media was symptomatic of America's declining confidence in its own values. Until the intervention in Iraq in 2004, optimism and a sense of confidence prevailed in American social attitudes, having survived even the terrorist attack on the United States on September 11, 2001. The (p.90) country's economy was growing and its position in the world was not challenged. However, the disastrous war in Iraq, the global financial crisis of 2008, and Russia's intervention in Georgia in August 2008 changed that. US leadership could no longer inspire the same respect, and a growing number of countries viewed it as a threat to world peace. 41 Internally, the United States was increasingly divided. Following presidential elections in November 2016, 77% of Americans perceived their country as "greatly divided on the most important values." 42 The value divide had been expressed in partisanship and political polarization long before the 2016 presidential elections. 43 The Russia issue deepened this divide. According to a poll taken in October 2017, 63% of Democrats, but just 38% of Republicans, viewed "Russia's power and influence" as a major threat to the well-being of the United States. 44

During the US 2016 presidential elections, Russia emerged as a convenient way to accentuate differences between Democratic and Republican candidates, which in previous elections were never as pronounced or defining. The new elections deepened the partisan divide because of extreme differences between the two main candidates, particularly on Russia. Donald Trump positioned himself as a radical populist promising to transform US foreign policy and "drain the swamp" in Washington. His position on Russia seemed unusual because, by election time, the Kremlin had challenged the United States' position in the world by annexing Crimea, supporting Ukrainian separatism, and possibly hacking the DNC site.

The Russian issue assisted Clinton in stressing her differences from Trump. Soon after it became known that DNC servers were hacked, she embraced the view that Russia was behind the cyberattacks. She accused Russia of "trying to wreak havoc" in the United States and threatened retaliation. 45 In his turn, Trump used Russia to challenge Clinton's commitment to national security (p.91) and ability to serve as commander in chief. In particular, he drew public attention to the FBI investigation into Clinton's use of a private server for professional correspondence, and even noted sarcastically that the Russians should find thirty thousand missing emails belonging to her. The latter was interpreted by many in liberal media and political circles as a sign of Trump's being unpatriotic. 46 Clinton capitalized on this interpretation. She referred to the issue of hacking as the most important one throughout the campaign and challenged Trump to agree with assessments of intelligence agencies that cyberattacks were ordered by the Kremlin. She questioned Trump's commitments to US national security and accused him of being a "puppet" for President Putin. 47 Following Trump's victory, Clinton told donors that her loss should be partly attributed to Putin and the election hacks directed by him. 48

Clinton's arguments fitted with the overall narrative embraced by the mainstream media since roughly 2005 characterizing Russia as abusive and aggressive. Clinton viewed Russia as an oppressive autocratic power that was aggressive abroad to compensate for domestic weaknesses. Previously, in her book Hard Choices , then-secretary of state Clinton described Putin as "thin-skinned and autocratic, resenting criticism and eventually cracking down on dissent and debate." 49 This view was shared by President Obama, who publicly referred to Russia as a "regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors not out of strength but out of weakness." 50 During the election's campaign, Clinton argued that the United States should challenge Russia by imposing a no-fly zone in Syria with the objective of removing Assad from power, strengthening sanctions against the Russian economy, and providing lethal weapons to Ukraine in order to contain the potential threat of Russia's military invasion.

Following the elections, the partisan divide deepened, with liberal establishment attacking the "unpatriotic" Trump. Having (p.92) lost the election, Clinton partly attributed Trump's victory to the role of Russia and advocated an investigation into Trump's ties to Russia. In February 2017 the Clinton-influenced Center for American Progress brought on a former State Department official to run a new Moscow Project. 51 As acknowledged by the New Yorker , members of the Clinton inner circle believed that the Obama administration deliberately downplayed DNC hacking by the Kremlin. "We understand the bind they were in," one of Clinton's senior advisers said. "But what if Barack Obama had gone to the Oval Office, or the East Room of the White House, and said, 'I'm speaking to you tonight to inform you that the United States is under attack . . .' A large majority of Americans would have sat up and taken notice . . . it is bewildering -- it is baffling -- it is hard to make sense of why this was not a five-alarm fire in the White House." 52

In addition to Clinton, many other members of the Washington establishment, including some Republicans, spread the narrative of Russia "attacking" America. Republican politicians who viewed Clinton's defeat and the hacking attacks in military terms included those of chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee John McCain, who stated, "When you attack a country, it's an act of war," 53 and former vice president Dick Cheney, who called Russia's alleged interference in the US election "a very serious effort made by Mr. Putin" that "in some quarters that would be considered an act of war." 54 A number of Democrats also engaged in the rhetoric of war, likening the Russian "attack," as Senator Ben Cardin did, to a "political Pearl Harbor." 55

Rumors and leaks, possibly by members of US intelligence agencies, 56 and activities of liberal groups that sought to discredit Trump contributed to the Russophobia. In addition to the DNC hacking accusations, many fears of Russia in the media were based on the assumption that contacts, let alone cooperation with the (p.93) Kremlin, was unpatriotic and implied potentially "compromising" behavior: praise of Putin as a leader, possible business dealings with Russian "oligarchs," and meetings with Russian officials such Ambassador Sergei Kislyak. 57

There were therefore two sides to the Russia story in the US liberal media -- rational and emotional. The rational side had to do with calculations by Clinton-affiliated circles and anti-Russian groups pooling their resources to undermine Trump and his plans to improve relations with Russia. Among others, these resources included dominance within the liberal media and leaks by the intelligence community. The emotional side was revealed by the liberal elites' values and ability to promote fears of Russia within the US political class and the general public. Popular emotions of fear and frustration with Russia already existed in the public space due to the old Cold War memories, as well as disturbing post–Cold War developments that included wars in Chechnya, Georgia, and Ukraine. In part because of these memories, factions such as those associated with Clinton were successful in evoking in the public liberal mind what historian Richard Hofstadter called the "paranoid style" or "the sense of heated exaggeration, suspiciousness, and conspiratorial fantasy." 58 Mobilized by liberal media to pressure Trump, these emotions became an independent factor in the political struggle inside Washington. The public display of fear and frustration with Russia and Trump could only be sustained by a constant supply of new "suspicious" developments and intense discussion by the media.

[May 18, 2020] Rages Listening To Virus Experts Has Led To Death Despair by Ron Paul

Notable quotes:
"... On April 21st the Washington Post savaged Georgia governor Brian Kemp's decision to begin opening his state after locking down for weeks. "Georgia leads the race to become America's No. 1 Death Destination," sneered the headline. ..."
"... Milbank, who is obviously still getting paid while millions are out of work, sees his job as pushing the mainstream narrative that we must remain in fear and never question what "experts" like Dr. Fauci tell us. ..."
"... in places that are opening, we're not seeing this spike in cases. ..."
"... Shutting down the entire United States over a virus that looks to be less deadly than an average flu virus – particularly among those under 80 who are not already sick – has resulted in mass unemployment and economic destruction. More Americans may die from the wrong-headed efforts to fight the virus than from the virus itself. ..."
"... Americans should pause and reflect on the lies they are being sold. Masks are just a form of psychological manipulation. Many reputable physicians and scientists have said they are worthless and potentially harmful. Lockdowns are meant to condition people to obey without question. ..."
May 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

On April 21st the Washington Post savaged Georgia governor Brian Kemp's decision to begin opening his state after locking down for weeks. "Georgia leads the race to become America's No. 1 Death Destination," sneered the headline.

The author, liberal pundit Dana Milbank, actually found the possibility of Georgians dying to be hilarious, suggesting that, "as a promotion, Georgia could offer ventilators to the first 100 hotel guests to register."

Milbank, who is obviously still getting paid while millions are out of work, sees his job as pushing the mainstream narrative that we must remain in fear and never question what "experts" like Dr. Fauci tell us.

Well it's been three weeks since Milbank's attack on Georgia and its governor, predicting widespread death which he found humorous. His predictions are about as worthless as his character. Not only has Georgia not seen "coronavirus burn through Georgia like nothing has since William Tecumseh Sherman," as Milbank laughed, but Covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have seen a steep decline since the governor began opening the state.

Maybe getting out in the fresh air and sunshine should not have been prohibited in the first place!

In fact, as we now have much more data, it is becoming increasingly clear that the US states and the countries that locked down the tightest also suffered the highest death rates. Ultra locked-down Italy suffered 495 Covid deaths per million while relatively non-locked down South Korea suffered only five deaths per million. The same is true in the US, where non lockdown states like South Dakota were relatively untouched by the virus while authoritarian-led Michigan, New York, and California have been hardest hit.

In those hardest hit states, we are now seeing that most of the deaths occurred in senior care facilities – after the governors ordered patients sick with Covid to leave the hospitals and return to their facilities. There, they infected their fellow residents who were most likely to have the multiple co-morbidities and advanced age that turned the virus into a death sentence. Will these governors be made to answer for this callous disregard for life?

Yesterday, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar admitted the obvious:

" We are seeing that in places that are opening, we're not seeing this spike in cases."

So why not open everything? Because these petty tyrants cannot stand the idea of losing the ability to push people around.

Shutting down the entire United States over a virus that looks to be less deadly than an average flu virus – particularly among those under 80 who are not already sick – has resulted in mass unemployment and economic destruction. More Americans may die from the wrong-headed efforts to fight the virus than from the virus itself.

Americans should pause and reflect on the lies they are being sold. Masks are just a form of psychological manipulation. Many reputable physicians and scientists have said they are worthless and potentially harmful. Lockdowns are meant to condition people to obey without question.

A nation of people who just do what they are told by the "experts" without question is a nation ripe for a descent into total tyranny.

This is no empty warning – it's backed up by history. Time to stand up to all the petty tyrants from our hometowns to Washington DC. It is time to reclaim our freedom.

[May 18, 2020] Head of the Hydra The Rise of Robert Kadlec by Whitney Webb

Notable quotes:
"... William C. Patrick III would also become involved the FBI's Amerithrax investigation, even though he was initially suspected of involvement in the attacks. However, after having passed a lie detector test, he was added to the FBI's "inner circle" of technical advisors on the Amerithrax case, despite the fact that Patrick's protege , Stephen Hatfill, was the FBI's top suspect at the time. Hatfill was later cleared of wrongdoing and the FBI eventually blamed a Fort Detrick scientist named Bruce Ivins for the crime, hiding a "mountain" of evidence exonerating Ivins to do so, according to the FBI's former lead investigator. ..."
"... That same year, Hatfill offered Patrick another consulting job at SAIC and commissioned Patrick to perform a study describing "a fictional terrorist attack in which an envelope containing weapons-grade anthrax is opened in an office." The Baltimore Sun would later report that Patrick's study for SAIC discussed the "danger of anthrax spores spreading through the air and the requirements for decontamination after various kinds of attacks" as well as how many grams of anthrax would need to be placed within a standard business envelope in order to conduct such an attack. ..."
"... In addition, the FBI's supposed "smoking gun" used to link Bruce Ivins' to the anthrax attacks was the fact that a flask in Ivins' lab labeled RMR-1029 was determined to be its "parent" strain. Yet, it would later be revealed that portions of RMR-1029 had been sent by Ivins to Battelle's Ohio facility prior to the anthrax attacks. An analysis of the water used to make the anthrax also revealed that the anthrax spores had been created in the northeastern United States and follow-up analyses narrowed down the only possible sources as coming from one of three labs: Fort Detrick, a lab at the University of Scranton, or Battelle's West Jefferson facility. ..."
"... After Ivins' untimely "suicide" in 2008, Department of Justice civil attorneys would publicly challenge the FBI's assertions that Ivins had been the culprit and instead "suggested that a private laboratory in Ohio" managed by Battelle "could have been involved in the attacks." ..."
"... As previously noted in Part II of this series, BioPort was set to lose its contract for anthrax vaccine entirely in August 2001 and the entirety of its anthrax vaccine business was rescued by the 2001 anthrax attacks, which saw concerns over BioPort's corruption replaced with fervent demands for more of its anthrax vaccine. ..."
"... Of course, at the time, the only government known to be genetically engineering a pathogen was the U.S., as reported by the New York Times ' Judith Miller . Miller reported in October 2001 that the Pentagon, in the wake of the anthrax attacks, had approved "a project to make a potentially more potent form of anthrax bacteria" through genetic modification, a project that would be conducted by the Battelle Memorial Institute. ..."
"... This was the continuation of the project, which had involved William Patrick and Ken Alibek, and the Pentagon moved to restart it after the attacks, though it is unclear if either Patrick or Alibek continued to work on the subsequent iteration of Battelle's efforts to produce a more virulent strain of anthrax. That project was paused a month prior when Miller and other journalists disclosed the existence of the program in an article published on September 4, 2001. ..."
May 18, 2020 | www.unz.com

A POWERFUL NETWORK OF POLITICAL OPERATIVES, A GLOBAL VACCINE MAFIA AND THEIR MAN IN WASHINGTON.

Last Friday, a group of Democratic Senators " demanded " that the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) Robert Kadlec, "accurately disclose all his personal, financial and political ties in light of new reporting that he had failed to do so previously" after it was revealed that he had failed to note all "potential conflicts of interest" on his nomination paperwork.

The report in question, published last Monday by The Washington Post , detailed the ties of Kadlec to a man named Fuad El-Hibri, the founder of a "life sciences" company first known as BioPort and now called Emergent Biosolutions. Kadlec had previously disclosed his ties to El-Hibri and Emergent Biosolutions for a separate nomination years prior, but had failed to do so when nominated to head ASPR.

Though The Post does note Kadlec's recent failure to disclose these connections, the article largely sanitizes Kadlec's earlier yet crucial history and even obfuscates the full extent of his ties to the BioPort founder, among other glaring omissions. In reality, Kadlec has much more than his ties to El-Hibri looming large as "potential conflict of interests," as his decades-long career in shaping U.S. "biodefense" policy was directly enabled by his deep ties to intelligence, Big Pharma, the Pentagon and a host of corrupt yet powerful characters.

Thanks to a long and deliberate process to introduce biodefense policy, driven by Robert Kadlec and his sponsors, $7 billion dollars-worth of federally-owned vaccines, antidotes and medicines – held in strategically arranged repositories across the country in case of a health emergency – are now in the hands of one single individual. Those repositories, which compose the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS), are the exclusive domain of HHS' ASPR, a post created under Kadlec's watchful eye and tailored over the years to meet his very specific requirements.

From this perch, Robert Kadlec has final say on where the stockpile's contents are sourced, as well as how, when and where they are deployed. He is the sole source procurer of medical material and pharmaceuticals, making him the best friend of Big Pharma and other healthcare industry giants who have been in his ear every step of the way.

Kadlec assures us, however, that the fact that he now holds the very office he worked so long to create is merely a coincidence. "My participation in the ASPR project began at that time when I was working for the chairman of the Subcommittee on Bioterrorism and Public Health Preparedness The bill was made law and the ASPR was created. It just was a coincidence that, 12 or 14 years later, I was asked to become the ASPR," Kadlec stated in 2018.

It was all a random twist of fate, Kadlec asserts, that saw him occupy ASPR at this crucial moment in U.S. history. Indeed, with the country now in the middle of a WHO-declared coronavirus pandemic, Kadlec now has full control over the far-reaching "emergency" powers of that very office, bestowed upon him by the very law that he had written.

The story of how a former USAF flight surgeon came to have the exclusive dealer license over the single biggest stash of drugs in the history of the world is as disturbing as it is significant in light of current events, particularly given that Kadlec now leads the coronavirus response for all of HHS. Yet, Kadlec's rise to power is not a case of an evil mastermind conquering a uniquely vulnerable point of the nation's resources. Instead, it is a case of a man deeply enmeshed in the world of intelligence, military intelligence and corporate corruption dutifully fulfilling the vision of his friends in high places and behind closed doors.

In this third installment of " Engineering Contagion: Amerithrax, Coronavirus and the Rise of the Biotech-Industrial Complex ," Kadlec is shown to hail from a tight-knit group of "bioterror alarmists" in government and the private sector who gained prominence thanks to their penchant for imagining the most horrific, yet fictitious scenarios that inspired fear among Presidents, top politicians and the American public. Among those fictitious scenarios was the "Dark Winter" exercise discussed in Part I .

Some of these alarmists, among them "cold warriors" from Fort Detrick's days of openly developing offensive weapons, would engage in unsettling anthrax experiments and studies while developing suspect ties in 2000 to a company called BioPort. As noted in Part II of this series, BioPort stood to lose everything in early September 2001 due to controversy over its anthrax vaccine. Of course, the 2001 anthrax attacks that followed shortly thereafter would change everything, not just for BioPort, but U.S. biodefense policy. With the stage set, Kadlec would quickly spring into action, guiding major policy changes on the heels of subsequent major events and disasters, culminating in his crowning as King of the stockpile.

THE ACCIDENTAL MADMAN

Robert Kadlec describes himself as having been an "accidental tourist" regarding his introduction to biological warfare. An Air Force physician who had specialized in tropical diseases, Kadlec would later say his interest in the field began when he was assigned to be a special assistant for Chemical and Biological Warfare to the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), advising then-head of Special Operations Command Maj. Gen. Wayne Downing, on the eve of the first Gulf War.

Kadlec would later state that he had witnessed firsthand how the military, immediately prior to the Gulf War, had "lacked the necessary protective equipment, detectors, and medical countermeasures including vaccines and antibiotics against the immediate threats posed by Iraq," allegedly prompting him to want to better U.S. biodefense efforts.

While holding this post at JSOC, Kadlec was privy to the advice of William C. Patrick III , a veteran of the U.S.' bioweapons program who had developed the U.S.' method for weaponizing anthrax and held no less than five classified patents related to the toxin's use in warfare. Patrick, who had left government service in 1986 to become a consultant, advised the Pentagon -- then headed by Dick Cheney -- that the risk of a biological weapons attack by Iraq, particularly anthrax, was high. Patrick's warning prompted the U.S. military to vaccinate tens of thousands of its troops using the controversial anthrax vaccine "anthrax vaccine adsorbed (AVA)." Kadlec would personally inject AVA into around 800 members of the U.S. Armed Forces.

Kadlec would later note in Congressional testimony that no definitive proof of an alleged Iraqi biological weapons program was found during the war or afterwards, but nevertheless claimed elsewhere that "the Iraqis later admitted they had procured large quantities of a biological agents-anthrax and botulism toxin," suggesting that Patrick's warnings had had some basis in reality.

However, Kadlec failed to point out that these anthrax and botulism samples had been sold, with the U.S. government's full approval, to Iraq's Ministry of Education by a U.S. private non-profit called the American Type Culture Collection. Donald Rumsfeld, who was then an envoy for the Reagan administration and running a pharmaceutical company later sold to Monsanto, would also be involved in the shipment of these samples to Iraq.

Following the war, American microbiologist Joshua Lederberg was tasked by the Pentagon to head the investigation into "Gulf War Syndrome," a phenomenon that studies later linked to the adverse effects of the anthrax vaccine. Lederberg's task force argued that evidence regarding an association between the symptomology and the anthrax vaccine was insufficient. However, he would later come under fire after it was reported that he sat on the board of the American Type Culture Collection, the very company that had shipped anthrax to Iraq's government between 1985 and 1989 with the U.S. government's blessing. Lederberg later admitted that the investigation he led had not spent enough "time and effort digging out the details". The taskforce's findings were later harshly criticized by the Government Accountability Office.

Dr. Lederberg would prove to be an early, if not seminal, influence on Robert Kadlec's outlook regarding the subject of biowarfare. The Nobel Laureate and long-time president of Rockefeller University was one of the fathers of bioterror alarmism in the United States, alongside William C. Patrick III and other members of a tight-knit group of "cold warrior" microbiologists. Kadlec and Lederberg would go on to collaborate on several books and policy studies throughout the late 1990s and into 2001.

Years later, at a Congressional hearing, Kadlec would say that Lederberg's words "resonate constantly with me and serve as a practical warning." Aside from Lederberg, Kadlec was also writing numerous books and articles with Randall Larsen, who would later hire the Medical doctor to teach "military strategy and operations" at the National War College, where Larsen's close friend – William C. Patrick III – also taught .

A POISONED OASIS

Many of Kadlec's bioterror ravings have been preserved in 25-year old textbooks, like a U.S. Air War College textbook entitled " Battlefield of the Future " where Kadlec calls on the government to create a massive stockpile of drugs and vaccines to protect the population from a biological weapons attack, particularly anthrax or smallpox. In one chapter, Kadlec argued that stockpiles of necessary antibiotics, immunoglobulins and vaccines would have to be procured, maintained, and be readily available to administer within hours."

Kadlec's views on the matter at the time of writing were greatly influenced by his first tour as a UNSCOM weapons inspector in Iraq in 1994, where he was accompanied by William Patrick, among others. Kadlec would later return to Iraq in the same capacity in 1996 and 1998 in search of Iraq's alleged stores of weaponized anthrax that Patrick had been so sure were there, but had never materialized.

After three visits, Kadlec would later confess that, despite what Kadlec called "the most intrusive inspection and monitoring regime ever conceived and implemented" by the UN, the UNSCOM weapons inspectors, including himself and William Patrick, "failed to uncover any irrefutable evidence of an offensive BW program." Kadlec would later return to Iraq on two separate occasions following the 2003 U.S. invasion of country, again finding no proof of the program's existence.

By 1995, Kadlec was already imbued with the bioweapons alarmism that had been championed by Lederberg and Patrick. That year, he fleshed out several "illustrative scenarios" regarding the use of "biological economic warfare" against the United States. One of these fictional scenarios, titled "Corn Terrorism," involves China planning "an act of agricultural terrorism" by clandestinely spraying corn seed blight over the Midwest using commercial airliners. The result of the "Corn Terrorism" scenario is that "China gains significant corn market share and tens of billions [of] dollars of additional profits from their crop," while the U.S. sees its corn crop obliterated, causing food prices to rise and the U.S. to import corn. Another scenario, entitled "That's a 'Lousy' Wine," involves "disgruntled European winemakers" covertly releasing grape lice they have hidden in cans of paté to target California wine producers.

Around this same time, in 1994, the relatively young Congressional Office of Technology Assessment or OTA , which informed policy decisions around questions of technological and scientific complexity on matters of national security, was cut by the new Republican majority that took both houses in the pivotal 1994 midterms elections. At the time of its defunding, Lederberg sat on the OTA's Technology Assessment Advisory Council (OTA-TAAC), along with pharma industry insiders from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Lilly Research Labs and pre-merger Smith-Kline, and chaired one of its last study panels.

In OTA's place, an independent, non-profit entity called The Potomac Institute for Policy Studies (PIPS) was co-founded by Special Consultant to President H.W. Bush's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB) and a former CIA program monitor, Michael S. Swetnam, who was reportedly " tasked with profiling Osama Bin Laden before the September 11th attacks were enacted ."

The defunding of the OTA and subsequent creation of PIPS transferred policy-making on what are, perhaps, the most sensitive issues of national security away from Congress and into a private foundation teeming with operators from the vast underbelly of the military industrial complex (MIC). Former military officers, DARPA scientists , NASA policy experts, FBI agents, CIA operatives and defense contractors like Northrop Grumman can all be found on their member rolls and in their boardrooms.

PIPS and its sponsors would shadow Robert Kadlec's career in government from the very beginning and remain in close proximity to him today. One PIPS-linked individual would work particularly closely with Kadlec, Tevi Troy – a senior fellow at PIPS and an adjunct fellow at the much more polished Hudson Institute, itself a major funder of PIPS. Troy has long been integral in shaping Kadlec's biodefense policy agenda, which would remain conspicuously static and unchanging throughout the career he was just beginning.

POX AMERICANA

By 1996, talks had begun within military leadership regarding what would become the Pentagon's mandatory anthrax vaccination program, a policy tirelessly promoted by Joshua Lederberg, who was involved in "investigating" the links between the anthrax vaccine and Gulf War Syndrome. The private talks took place in parallel with a public push to bring biological warfare to the forefront of American public consciousness. One particularly egregious example occurred when then-Secretary of Defense William Cohen went on ABC News with a five-pound bag of sugar, stating that "this amount of anthrax could be spread over a city -- let's say the size of Washington. It would destroy at least half the population of that city."

At the same time, Joshua Lederberg was also advocating for the stockpiling of a smallpox vaccine, which the U.S. military also took to heart, giving a company called DynPort an exclusive multi-million dollar contract to produce a new smallpox vaccine in 1997. Soon after, BioPort, DynPort's sister company , was formed and would soon come to monopolize the production of that vaccine.

By the time BioPort (now known as Emergent Biosolutions) had controversially gained control over this lucrative Pentagon contract in 1998, then-President Bill Clinton was publicly warning that the U.S. must "confront the new hazards of biological and chemical weapons," adding that Saddam Hussein specifically was "developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them." However, there was no intelligence to back up these claims, especially after the failed attempts by weapon inspectors, like Robert Kadlec and William Patrick, to find any evidence of an Iraqi biological weapons program.

Despite the lack of evidence regarding Iraq's alleged "WMD" programs, Clinton's concern over a biological weapons threat was said to have been the result of his reading of "The Cobra Event", a novel about how a genetically-modified pathogen called "brainpox" ravages New York City. The novel's author, Richard Preston, had been advised on biowarfare and genetically-modified pathogens by none other than William Patrick. Patrick, then an adviser to the CIA, FBI and military intelligence, also participated in closed door meetings with Clinton on biological weapons, claiming that their use was inevitable and that the deadliest of pathogens could easily be made in a "terrorist's garage."

It is also likely that Clinton's alarmism over biological and chemical weapons had been informed, in part, by a roundtable hosted at the White House on April 10, 1998. This " White House Roundtable on Genetic Engineering and Biological Weapons ," included a group of "outside experts" spear-headed by Joshua Lederberg and included several other bioterror alarmists, such as: Jerome Hauer, then-serving as Director of New York City's Office of Emergency Management (who also was advised by William Patrick III) and Thomas Monath, a vaccine industry executive and chief science advisor to CIA director George Tenet.

Discussed in-depth at the roundtable were "both the opportunities and the national security challenges posed by genetic engineering and biotechnology" as well as "classified material relating to threat assessments and how the United States responds to particular scenarios."

Robert Kadlec, despite being a Republican, remains very fond of Bill Clinton, perhaps because the former president was so attentive to the dire predictions of the "biodefense experts" who shadowed Kadlec's own career. Kadlec credits the former president with doing a "lot of good things" and making important contributions to the advancement of the biotech industrial complex's policy agenda.

Clinton would issue several executive orders and Presidential Decision Directives (PDDs) during this period, such as PDD-62, which specifically addressed preparations for a "WMD" attack on the U.S. and called for the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), then-led by Donna Shalala, to lead the national response to a WMD attack. Fortuitously for Kadlec, PDD-62 also called for the construction of a national stockpile of vaccines, antibiotics and other medical supplies.

At the time, Kadlec was already evangelizing the public about a seemingly imminent, doomsday anthrax attack he was certain would strike at any second. As quoted in a 1998 article from the Vancouver Sun , Kadlec speculated:

"If several kilograms of an agent like anthrax were disseminated in New York City today, conservative estimates put the number [of] deaths occurring in the first few days at 400,000. Thousands of others would be at risk of dying within several days if proper antibiotics and vaccination were not started immediately. Millions of others would be fearful of being exposed and seek or demand medical care as well. Beyond the immediate health implications of such an act, the potential panic and civil unrest would create an equally large response."

Kadlec's doomsday speculations about biological weapons attacks had caught the attention of Randall Larsen, the then-director of the National War College's Department of Military Strategy and Operations, who hired Kadlec because he "had become convinced that the most serious threat to national security was not Russian or Chinese missiles, but a pandemic – either man-made or naturally occurring." Soon after, Kadlec and Larsen would collaborate closely , co-authoring several studies together.

Meanwhile, their colleague at the National War College, William Patrick III was simultaneously working for the U.S. military and intelligence contractor, the Battelle Memorial Institute, where he was secretly developing a genetically-modified, more potent form of anthrax for a classified Pentagon program.

THE BIOTERROR INTELLIGENTSIA

A year after hiring Robert Kadlec to teach at the National War College, Randall Larsen was also involved in the creation of a new organization called the ANSER Institute for Homeland Security (ANSER-IHS), and served as its director. This Institute for Homeland Security, first initiated and funded in October 1999, was an extension of the ANSER Institute, which itself had been spun off from the RAND Corporation in the late 1950s. The RAND Corporation is a national security-focused "think tank" with long-standing ties to the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations and the Carnegie Corporation.

ANSER's expansion through ANSER-IHS was foreshadowed by the entry of "homeland defense" into popular political discourse within the Washington Beltway. The term is alleged to have first originated from a National Defense Panel report submitted in 1997 and is credited to Defense Panel member and former CIA officer with ties to the agency's Phoenix program, Richard Armitage. Armitage was part of the group known as the " Vulcans ," who advised George W. Bush on foreign policy matters prior to the 2000 presidential election.

As journalist Margie Burns pointed out in a 2002 article , the need for "homeland defense" as a major focus of U.S. government policy, including the push to create a new "homeland security" agency, was dramatically amplified following its alleged coining by Armitage in 1997. This was thanks, in part, to a web of media outlets owned by South Korean cult leader and CIA asset Sun Myong Moon, including the Washington Times, Insight Magazine and UPI , all of which published numerous articles penned by ANSER analysts or that heavily cited ANSER reports and employees regarding the need for a greatly expanded "homeland security" apparatus.

One such article, published by Insight Magazine in May 2001 and entitled " Preparing for the Next Pearl Harbor ," heavily cites ANSER and its Institute for Homeland Security as being among "the nation's top experts" in warning that a terrorist attack on the U.S. mainland was imminent. It also stated that "the first responders on tomorrow's battlefield won't be soldiers, but city ambulance workers and small-town firefighters."

ANSER-IHS was created at the behest of ANSER's CEO , Dr. Ruth David, who became ANSER's top executive after leaving a lengthy career at the CIA, where she had served as the agency's Deputy Director for Science and Technology. On ANSER-IHS's board at the time, alongside David, were Joshua Lederberg and Dr. Tara O'Toole, then-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Bio-defense Studies who would later co-write the Dark Winter exercise .

Though first created in 1999, ANSER-IHS did not officially launch until April 2001. That same month, Robert Kadlec, at the National War College, sponsored the paper " A Micro-threat with Macro-Impact: The Bio-Threat and the Need for a National Bio-Defense Security Strategy ." That paper starts by citing several former CIA officials as well as Dr. O'Toole (who now works for the CIA's venture capital arm, In-Q-Tel) as proof that a bioterrorist attack is "perhaps the greatest threat the U.S. faces in the next century" and that such an attack would inevitably target "Americans on American soil."

This Kadlec-sponsored report also called for the creation of the National Homeland Security Agency (NHSA), the framework for which was contained in H.R. 1158, introduced a month prior in March 2001. The paper urged that the creation of this new cabinet-level agency be enacted "quickly, so the resulting single executive agent (identified from here on as the NHSA) can begin its critical work." It also argued that this agency include "a deputy director position specifically responsible for preparing and responding to a bio-attack."

Other measures recommended in the paper included greatly expanding the national defense stockpile; creating a national disease reporting system; and the creation of real-time, automated bio-threat detectors. The latter would be initiated soon after the publication of this paper, resulting in the controversial Biological Aerosol Sentry and Information Systems (BASIS). BASIS was discussed in Part I of this series, particularly its role in "induc[ing] the very panic and social disruption it is intended to thwart" during and after the 2001 anthrax attacks that would occur months later. BASIS was developed largely by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, whose national security fellow – former Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) director Jay Davis, was then-chairman of ANSER's board of directors.

Also notable is the fact that Kadlec's April 2001 report cites the largely discredited yet still influential Ken Alibek on several occasions, including his allegation that anyone with internet access and a few bucks could produce and unleash weapons-grade anthrax with ease. Some of the nation's top anthrax experts would discredit this claim, with the exception of William C. Patrick III.

This is likely because it was Patrick who had been asked by the CIA to "vet" Alibek after he had first defected from the Soviet Union 1992, making Patrick responsible for determining the credibility of Alibek's controversial claims, including his incorrect assertions that Saddam Hussein had overseen a massive biological weapons program. Regarding their meeting, Patrick would later say "I won't say we fell in love, but we gained an immediate respect for one another."

At the time of Alibek's defection, Robert Kadlec – who had been assigned to the Pentagon's Office of the Secretary of Defense for Counter-proliferation policy after the Gulf War – would later recall during 2014 Congressional testimony having "witnessed the efforts to ascertain the truth behind the former Soviet Union's BW [biological weapons] effort" that had intimately involved Alibek and Patrick. Kadlec would also note that "the fate of these agents [related to the Soviet Union's BW program] and associated weapons," including those described by Alibek, "was never satisfactorily resolved."

Alibek's shocking yet dubious claims were often used and promoted by Joshua Lederberg (who had debriefed other Soviet bioweapons researchers after their defections), Patrick and others to support their favored "biodefense" policies as well as the need for "defensive" bioweapons research, including clandestine efforts to genetically-engineer anthrax on which Patrick and Alibek would later collaborate.

SETTING THE WHEELS IN MOTION

Just a few months before ANSER-IHS' "official" launch, another organization with a related focus was launched -- the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI). Created by media mogul Ted Turner and former Senator Sam Nunn in January 2001, NTI aimed not only to "reduce the threat" posed by nuclear weapons, but also chemical and biological weapons.

In announcing NTI's formation on CNN , the network Turner had founded, Nunn stated that while "nuclear weapons pose the gigantic danger, but biological and chemical weapons are the most likely to be used. And there are thousands of scientists in the former Soviet Union that know how to make these weapons, including chemical, biological and nuclear, but don't know how to feed their families." Nunn continued, stating that NTI hoped "to begin to help, some hope for gainful employment for people that we don't want to end up making chemical and biological and nuclear weapons in other parts of the world." NTI's mission in this regard likely came as welcome news to Joshua Lederberg, who had long advocated that the U.S. offer employment to bioweapons researchers from the former Soviet Union to prevent their employ by "rogue regimes."

Alongside Nunn and Tuner on NTI's board was William Perry, a former Secretary of Defense; former Senator Dick Lugar, for whom the alleged U.S. bioweapons lab in Georgia is named; and Margaret Hamburg, who was NTI's Vice President overseeing its work on biological weapons. Margaret Hamburg's father, David Hamburg, a long-time president of the Carnegie Corporation, was also an advisor and "distinguished fellow" at NTI. David Hamburg was a longtime close advisor , associate , and friend of Joshua Lederberg.

Both Sam Nunn and Margaret Hamburg of NTI, as well as top officials from ANSER, would come together in June 2001 to participate in an exercise simulating a bioweapons attack called "Dark Winter." Nunn would play the role of president in the exercise and Hamburg played the head of HHS in the fictional scenario. Jerome Hauer, then-managing director of the intelligence-linked outfit Kroll Inc. and a Vice President at the military-intelligence contractor Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC), played the head of FEMA.

The Dark Winter exercise itself was largely written by Tara O'Toole (ANSER-IHS board member) and Thomas Inglesby of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Bio-defense Studies as well as Randall Larsen of ANSER-IHS. Robert Kadlec also participated in the creation of the script and appears in the fictional, scripted news clips used in the exercise.

As detailed in Part I of this series, the Dark Winter exercise eerily predicted many aspects of what would follow just months later during the 2001 anthrax attacks, including predictions that threatening letters would be sent to members of the press with the promise of biological weapons attacks involving anthrax. Dark Winter also provided the initial narrative for the 2001 anthrax attacks, which held that Iraq and Al Qaeda had been jointly responsible. However, soon after the attacks, evidence quickly pointed to the anthrax having originated from a domestic source linked to military experiments. In addition, several Dark Winter participants and authors either had apparent foreknowledge of those attacks (especially Jerome Hauer) and/or were involved in the FBI controversial investigation into the attacks (including Robert Kadlec).

On the day of September 11, 2001, Kadlec and Randall Larsen were set to begin co-teaching a course on "Homeland Security" at the National War College. It's course syllabus draws from quotes on the imminent threat of bioterrorism from Joshua Lederberg as well as Dark Winter participant and former CIA director James Woolsey, who called a biological weapons attack "the single most dangerous threat to U.S. national security in the foreseeable future."

The course was also set to include its own lengthy use of the Dark Winter exercise, where students would re-enact the June 2001 exercise as part of an end-of-semester research project. However, given the events that took place on September 11, 2001, Kadlec never went on to teach that course, as he instead went to the Pentagon to focus on the "bio-terror threat" in the weeks that preceded the 2001 anthrax attacks.

THE AFTER (ANTHRAX) PARTY

Immediately after the events of September 11, 2001, Kadlec became a special advisor on biological warfare to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his deputy Paul Wolfowitz. In the days that followed, Rumsfeld openly and publicly stated that he expected America's enemies, specifically Saddam Hussein, to aid unspecified terrorist groups in obtaining chemical and biological weapons, a narrative that was analogous to that used in the Dark Winter exercise that Kadlec had helped create.

In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, Dark Winter's other co-authors -- Randall Larsen, Tara O'Toole and Thomas Inglesby -- personally briefed Dick Cheney on Dark Winter, at a time when Cheney and his staff had been warned by another Dark Winter figure, Jerome Hauer, to take the antibiotic Cipro to prevent anthrax infection. It is unknown how many members of the administration were taking Cipro and for how long.

Hauer, along with James Woolsey and New York Times reporter Judith Miller (who also attended Dark Winter), would spend the weeks between 9/11 and the public disclosure of the anthrax attacks making numerous media appearances (and, in Miller's case, writing dozens of reports) regarding the use of anthrax as a biological weapon. Members of the controversial think thank the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), which included Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld among its ranks, also warned that a biological weapons attack was set to follow on the heels of 9/11. These included Richard Perle, then advising the Rumsfeld-led Pentagon, and Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol of The Weekly Standard .

One would think that all of these well-timed warnings would have left this clique of government insiders the least surprised once the anthrax attacks were publicly disclosed on October 4, 2001. However, despite constantly warning of doomsday anthrax attack scenarios for a decade and advising the Pentagon on this very threat immediately beginning just weeks prior, Robert Kadlec would subsequently claim to have yelled, "You gotta be sh*ttin' me!" when he first learned of the attacks.

Another pre-attack anthrax prophet, Judith Miller, would recall becoming distraught and despondent upon receiving a letter that appeared to contain anthrax. Her first reaction was to call William C. Patrick III, who calmed her down and told her that the anthrax powder contained in the letter "was most likely a hoax." Indeed, Patrick would prove correct in his analysis as the powder in the letter Miller had opened was, in fact, harmless.

Kadlec quickly began contributing to the FBI's controversial investigation into the attacks, known by its case name "Amerithrax." Kadlec was tasked with following up on the alleged presence of bentonite in the anthrax used in the attacks. Bentonite was never actually found in any of the anthrax samples tested by the FBI, but claims that it had been found were used to link the anthrax used in the attacks to Iraq's alleged use of bentonite in its biological weapons program, the very existence of which still lacked conclusive evidence.

This erroneous claim was first mentioned to Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz by Peter Jahrling, a Fort Detrick scientist, who claimed during a briefings that the spores "appeared to have been treated" with a "particular chemical additive" resembling bentonite. Jahrling then added that Iraq's government had used bentonite to "suspiciously" produce bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), a "nonlethal cousin" of anthrax widely used in agriculture. "Everyone grabbed on to that," Kadlec would later remember of Jahrling's haphazard link between bentonite and a harmless, distant cousin of anthrax.

Tasked by Wolfowitz with shoring up evidence for the bentonite "smoking gun," Kadlec would contact a Navy scientist that had accompanied him and William Patrick to Iraq in their unsuccessful efforts to find proof of Iraq's biological weapons back in 1994, James Burans. Burans was unconvinced of the bentonite connection and other government scientists soon agreed.

Nonetheless, media outlets continued to play up the bentonite-anthrax claim as proving Iraq's role in the anthrax attacks, despite findings to the contrary. By late October 2001, one nationwide poll found that 74% of respondents wanted the U.S. to take military action against Iraq, despite a lack of evidence connecting the country to either 9/11 or the anthrax attacks. A month later, Rumsfeld would draw up plans in consultation with Wolfowitz regarding justifications for initiating war with Iraq, including discovering links between Saddam Hussein and the anthrax attacks and initiating disputes with Iraq over WMD inspections.

While the Kadlec-advised Pentagon was seeking to link the anthrax attacks to Iraq, the NTI – headed by Dark Winter "president" Sam Nunn – kicked its agenda into over-drive, earmarking "$2.4 million in initial grants to finance scientific collaboration with scientists who once worked in the former Soviet Union's covert biological weapons program." NTI also set aside millions more for transforming former Soviet Union bioweapons labs into "vaccine production facilities" and "helping identify Western drug companies willing to work with former Soviet bioweaponeers on commercial ventures."

CLOSED DOOR INVESTIGATION

William C. Patrick III would also become involved the FBI's Amerithrax investigation, even though he was initially suspected of involvement in the attacks. However, after having passed a lie detector test, he was added to the FBI's "inner circle" of technical advisors on the Amerithrax case, despite the fact that Patrick's protege , Stephen Hatfill, was the FBI's top suspect at the time. Hatfill was later cleared of wrongdoing and the FBI eventually blamed a Fort Detrick scientist named Bruce Ivins for the crime, hiding a "mountain" of evidence exonerating Ivins to do so, according to the FBI's former lead investigator.

In the 1990s, Patrick had told associates of his desire to find someone who would carry on his work, eventually finding this person in Stephen Hatfill. Hatfill and Patrick's friendship was close, with one bioterror expert calling them "like father and son." Hatfill traveled together often and, on occasion, Hatfill would drive Patrick to his consulting jobs at the military and intelligence contractor SAIC. In 1999, Patrick would return the favor by helping Hatfill score a job at SAIC. A year later, Jerome Hauer, a friend to both Hatfill and Patrick, would join SAIC as a Vice President.

That same year, Hatfill offered Patrick another consulting job at SAIC and commissioned Patrick to perform a study describing "a fictional terrorist attack in which an envelope containing weapons-grade anthrax is opened in an office." The Baltimore Sun would later report that Patrick's study for SAIC discussed the "danger of anthrax spores spreading through the air and the requirements for decontamination after various kinds of attacks" as well as how many grams of anthrax would need to be placed within a standard business envelope in order to conduct such an attack.

Patrick's involvement in this SAIC study is particularly interesting given that he was also involved in another project involving anthrax at the time, this one managed by Battelle Memorial Institute. In 1997, the Pentagon created plans to genetically engineer a more potent variety of anthrax, spurred by the work of Russian scientists who had recently published a study that found that a genetically engineered strain of anthrax was resistant to the standard anthrax vaccine, at least in animal studies.

The stated goal of the Pentagon's plan, per a 2001 report in The New York Times , was "to see if the [anthrax] vaccine the United States intends to supply to its armed forces is effective against that strain." Battelle's facility at West Jefferson, Ohio was contracted by the Pentagon to create the genetically-modified anthrax, a task that was overseen by Battelle's then-program manager for all things bioweapons, Ken Alibek. A 1998 article in the New Yorker noted that William Patrick, also a consultant for Battelle and Alibek's "close friend," was working with Alibek on a project involving anthrax at the time. It would later be revealed that access to the very anthrax strain used in the attacks, the Ames strain, was controlled by Battelle.

In addition, the FBI's supposed "smoking gun" used to link Bruce Ivins' to the anthrax attacks was the fact that a flask in Ivins' lab labeled RMR-1029 was determined to be its "parent" strain. Yet, it would later be revealed that portions of RMR-1029 had been sent by Ivins to Battelle's Ohio facility prior to the anthrax attacks. An analysis of the water used to make the anthrax also revealed that the anthrax spores had been created in the northeastern United States and follow-up analyses narrowed down the only possible sources as coming from one of three labs: Fort Detrick, a lab at the University of Scranton, or Battelle's West Jefferson facility.

After Ivins' untimely "suicide" in 2008, Department of Justice civil attorneys would publicly challenge the FBI's assertions that Ivins had been the culprit and instead "suggested that a private laboratory in Ohio" managed by Battelle "could have been involved in the attacks."

Patrick's work with Battelle on creating a more potent form of anthrax, as well as his work with SAIC in studying the effect of anthrax sent through the mail, began around the same time that BioPort had secured a monopoly over the production of the anthrax vaccine, recently made mandatory for all U.S. troops by the Pentagon. As detailed in Part II of this series, BioPort's facility that produced its anthrax vaccine was, at the time, rife with problems and had lost its license to operate. Despite the Pentagon having given BioPort millions to use for renovations of the factory, much of that money instead went towards senior management bonuses and redecorating executive offices. Millions more simply "disappeared."

In 2000, not long after receiving its first Pentagon bail-out, BioPort contracted none other than Battelle Memorial Institute. The deal gave Battelle "immediate exposure to the vaccine" it was using in connection with the genetically-modified anthrax program that involved both Alibek and Patrick. That program then began using the BioPort-manufactured vaccine in tests at its West Jefferson facility. At the time, Battelle was also lending "technical expertise" to BioPort and hired 12 workers to send to BioPort's troubled Michigan facility "to keep the operation running."

At the time, a BioPort spokeswomen stated "We have a relationship with Battelle to extend our reach for people we are trying to attract for critical positions on our technical side. They're also assisting with our potency testing as really sort of a backup. They're validating our potency tests." Reports on the BioPort-Battelle contract stated that the terms of their agreement were not publicly disclosed, but also noted that the two companies had "previously worked together on an unsuccessful bid to make other vaccines for the government."

As previously noted in Part II of this series, BioPort was set to lose its contract for anthrax vaccine entirely in August 2001 and the entirety of its anthrax vaccine business was rescued by the 2001 anthrax attacks, which saw concerns over BioPort's corruption replaced with fervent demands for more of its anthrax vaccine.

RUMSFELD SAVES BIOPORT

One of the post-attack advocates for salvaging the BioPort anthrax vaccine contract was Donald Rumsfeld, who stated after the attacks that, "We're going to try to save it, and try to fashion some sort of an arrangement whereby we give one more crack at getting the job done with that outfit [BioPort]. It's the only outfit in this country that has anything under way, and it's not very well under way, as you point out."

While Rumsfeld and others worked to salvage the troubled BioPort-anthrax vaccine deal, another recurrent figure in this sordid saga, Jerome Hauer, would also play a key role in pushing for increased purchases of BioPort's most lucrative and most controversial product. In addition to being managing director of Kroll Inc. and a Vice President at SAIC, Hauer was also a national security advisor to HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson on September 11, 2001. It was also this same day that Hauer would also tell top administration officials to take Cipro to prevent anthrax infection.

Hauer played a key role advising HHS leadership as the anthrax attacks unfolded. After the attacks, Hauer pushed Thompson to create the Office of Public Health Preparedness (OPHP) within HHS, which was created later that year. It was first headed by D.A. Henderson, a close associate of Joshua Lederberg and the original founder of the Johns Hopkins Working Group on Civilian Biodefense, which included Jerome Hauer and Henderson's protege Tara O'Toole. Hauer himself would come to replace Henderson as OPHP just a few months later.

Subsequent legislation, shaped in part by Robert Kadlec, would see OPHP give way to the position of Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness (ASPHEP), a position Hauer would also fill. Hauer would use this post to push for the stockpiling of vaccines, including BioPort's anthrax vaccine. Hauer and his deputy, William Raub, would then help push the Pentagon to restart vaccinating the troops, despite long-standing concerns over the vaccine's safety. Soon after leaving HHS in 2004, Hauer would quickly be added to the board of directors of BioPort under its new name Emergent Biosolutions, a post he still holds today.

ALL SYSTEMS GO

In the aftermath of the anthrax attacks, Robert Kadlec's doomsday predictions for bioterror incidents went into over-drive. "It's not your mother's smallpox," Kadlec would tell the LA Times in late October 2001, "It's an F-17 Stealth fighter – it's designed to be undetectable and to kill. We are flubbing our efforts at biodefense. We don't think of this as a weapon – we look naively at this as a disease." As the article notes, this "stealth fighter" strain of smallpox did not exist. Instead, Kadlec – who now had Rumsfeld's ear on issues of biodefense – expected that such a strain might soon be genetically engineered.

Of course, at the time, the only government known to be genetically engineering a pathogen was the U.S., as reported by the New York Times ' Judith Miller . Miller reported in October 2001 that the Pentagon, in the wake of the anthrax attacks, had approved "a project to make a potentially more potent form of anthrax bacteria" through genetic modification, a project that would be conducted by the Battelle Memorial Institute.

This was the continuation of the project, which had involved William Patrick and Ken Alibek, and the Pentagon moved to restart it after the attacks, though it is unclear if either Patrick or Alibek continued to work on the subsequent iteration of Battelle's efforts to produce a more virulent strain of anthrax. That project was paused a month prior when Miller and other journalists disclosed the existence of the program in an article published on September 4, 2001.

After news broke of the Pentagon's plans to again begin developing more potent anthrax strains, accusations were made that the U.S. was violating the bioweapons convention. However, the U.S. narrowly avoided having to admit it had violated the convention given that, just one month after the Dark Winter exercise in July 2001, the U.S. had rejected an agreement that would have enforced its ban on biological weapons.

The New York Times noted specifically that the genetically-modified anthrax experiments being performed by Battelle's West Jefferson facility were a "significant reason" behind the Bush administration's decision to reject the draft agreement and the U.S. government had argued at the time that "unlimited visits to pharmaceutical or defense installations by foreign inspectors could be used to gather strategic or commercial intelligence." Of course, one of those "pharmaceutical or defense installations" was ultimately the source of the anthrax used in the attacks.

THE GROUNDWORK

On the heels of the chaos of late 2001, Kadlec's vision for U.S. biodefense policy was rapidly coming to fruition before his very eyes. The first enabling statute for the SNS was the Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Preparedness Act of 2002, largely motivated by the anthrax attacks, which directed the Secretary of HHS to maintain a " Strategic National Stockpile (SNS)." The legislation had been the direct result of a process begun years earlier when Congress earmarked funding for the CDC to stockpile pharmaceuticals in 1998. The program was originally called the National Pharmaceutical Stockpile (NPS) program.

Kadlec's role in directing subsequent developments in the SNS and other related legislative developments was considerable given that, in 2002, he became director for biodefense on the recently created Homeland Security Council. His work on the council, which he left in 2005, resulted in the Bush administration's "National Biodefense Policy for the 21st Century," which unsurprisingly echoed the recommendations of the paper Kadlec had sponsored at the National War College.

On March 1, 2003, the NPS became the Strategic National Stockpile program and was managed jointly by DHS and HHS after George W. Bush issued Homeland Security Presidential Directive (HSPD-5). Two days before, Secretary of Homeland Security, Tom Ridge and then Secretary of HHS Tommy Thompson had presented the Project BioShield Act to Congress. It was a sweeping piece of legislation that established what would become a government money teller-window for Big Pharma, called the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), among other entities and powers, not least of which was moving control of the SNS away from DHS and closer to HHS.

Soon after BioShield was signed into law, BioPort/Emergent BioSolutions co-founded a lobby group called the Alliance for Biosecurity as part of its strategy to easily secure lucrative BioShield contracts. That lobby group saw Emergent BioSolutions join forces with the University of Pittsburgh's Center for Biosecurity, which was then-led by Tara O'Toole and advised by Randall Larsen.

With this framework in place, the Kadlec-drafted National Biodefense Policy for the 21st Century was used as the framework for Bush's Homeland Security Presidential Directive 10 ( HSPD-10 ), which further expanded BioShield, the SNS and other controversial programs. Project BioShield was made law in 2004 and, one year later, Kadlec joined Senator Richard Burr's subcommittee on bioterrorism and public health. There, Kadlec served as staff director on the committee that drafted the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act (PAHPA), containing the specific policy directives for the roll out of Project BioShield and creating Kadlec's future position at HHS.

PAHPA was passed the following year in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and established the statutory relationship between the various agencies enacted or included in the BioShield legislation . This includes delegating to the newly creation position of HHS Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) to "exercise the responsibilities and authorities of the Secretary [of HHS] with respect to the coordination of "the stockpile and to oversee the advanced research and development of medical counter-measures funded by BARDA, but conducted by Big Pharma. ASPR was also given the leadership role in directing HHS' response to a national health emergency.

Serving alongside Kadlec in the White House throughout this entire process was Tevi Troy, a Special Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy; a role which made him the White House's lead adviser on health care, labor, education and other issues with a special focus on crisis management . Troy, who had come up through the department of labor as deputy assistant for policy was already a Senior fellow at both the Hudson Institute and its satellite think tank, the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies (PIPS), where the real policy development work was undertaken.

Both Troy and Kadlec would exit the administration at the end of Bush's first term and not return until the latter half of his second term. In the meantime, the wheels had been set in motion with the passing of Project BioShield and PAHPA and, soon after their passage, panic over a "Bird flu" outbreak began, which had spread first in 33 cities in Vietnam and then led to an outbreak of the poultry-killing disease that affected all of Eurasia, Africa and the Middle East. The outbreak sparked panic in the U.S. in late 2005, thanks in large part to over-the-top warnings made by Tommy Thompson's successor as head of HHS, Michael Leavitt.

Despite the fact that Leavitt's claims were wildly inaccurate, some administration officials benefited financially from the fear-mongering, such as Donald Rumsfeld, whose stock holdings in the pharmaceutical company Gilead netted him $5 million once the scare had ended. Part of the reason for Gilead's jump in profitability resulted from the decision of the Pentagon and other U.S. government agencies to stockpile 80 million doses of Tamiflu, a drug promoted to treat the Bird Flu that was originally developed by Gilead. Rumsfeld had been the top executive at Gilead before joining the George W. Bush administration. Aside from those who benefited monetarily, the Bird Flu scare also gave a considerable boost to the biodefense "stockpile" agenda that Kadlec and other insiders supported.

Kadlec would return to the White House as Special Assistant for Homeland Security and Senior Director for Biological Defense Policy in 2007 to further solidify his eventual grip on the Strategic National Stockpile and the office of ASPR, along with his Hudson Institute/PIPS sidekick, Tevi Troy, concurrently appointed Deputy Director of HHS. This put Troy in charge of implementing the very policies enshrined in PAHPA and the departmental changes enacted as part of Project BioShield.

The Bush administration came to its inevitable conclusion as Barack Obama was elected and sworn in, early 2009. Kadlec and Troy, once again, left their government posts and disappeared into their private sector lairs. But, that same year, the first practice run for Kadlec's freshly retrofitted SNS took place when the "Swine Flu" (H1N1) pandemic triggered its "largest deployment" ever, distributing nearly 13 million antiviral regimens, as well as medical equipment and other drugs nationally and internationally in conjunction with BARDA . Gilead (and Rumsfeld) again profited handsomely, as did other large pharmaceutical companies, which were eager to restock the SNS after its large-scale deployment.

The virus' origins have been a matter of controversy for several years, alternatively identified as having sprung from pigs in Mexico or Asia. One of the last studies conducted in 2016 claims to have definitively traced the source to hogs in Mexico. Regardless of its true origins, interested observers were able to glean vital data from the exercise to prepare for the "next one."

TROY'S HORSES

Departing HHS Deputy Director Tevi Troy soon took a gig as a high-powered lobbyist for the JUUL e-cigarette company , which had run into some regulatory barriers as a result of the Tobacco Control Act, which had just been signed by then-President Obama. Margaret Hamburg, founding member of the NTI, was then Commissioner of the FDA and stalled enforcement of the new regulations; a tacit non-enforcement policy had persisted at the FDA until the recent vaping flavor ban, which followed renewed health concerns raised by a 2018 NIH report .

Why a former HHS official would take up the mantle to promote the use of a product known to be injurious to health can be answered by looking at Dr. Troy's close links with PIPS and the Hudson Institute. Couched in free-market rhetoric, these institutions are vehicles for the policy initiatives their billionaire funders want to see implemented, with its subsidiary think tanks, like PIPS, serving as satellites orbiting closer to the center of power.

As an adjunct fellow of the Hudson Institute and senior fellow at PIPS, Tevi Troy appears to play a pivotal role coordinating between the two. The Hudson Institute was founded in 1961 by former RAND military strategist, systems theorist and Dr. Strangelove inspiration Herman Kahn. After Kahn's passing in 1983, the Institute was "heavily recruited" by the Lilly Endowment – the largest private foundation in the United States , by far – and became a magnet for the same radical conservative billionaire networks that patronize it today.

Among its biggest donors are familiar names like Microsoft, Lockheed Martin Corporation, The Charles Koch Foundation, Boeing and Emergent BioSolutions. In 2004, Lilly Endowment returned to Washington D.C., announcing it would " return to its roots of national security and foreign policy " as a result of the war on terror becoming an "overarching national concern".

PIPS and the Hudson Institute would come to play a central role in Kadlec's upcoming efforts to make biodefense a national priority with him at the helm of a vastly expanded office of ASPR. But, it would be a few years yet. Meanwhile, there was more to be done in the area of legislation, not to mention private enterprise.

Building on all previous versions of Kadlec's original PAHPA, the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Reauthorization Act (PAHPRA) of 2013 established two more instruments that strengthened his ultimate goal. First, the PHEMCE Strategy and Implementation Plan (SIP) was codified into law, which formalized the original legislation's ties to the budget office and secondly, it streamlined the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) facility for the FDA to fast-track drug approvals.

SHOW ME THE MONEY

Soon upon returning to the private sector, Robert Kadlec helped found a new company in 2012 called "East West Protection," which develops and delivers "integrated all-hazards preparedness and response systems for communities and sovereign nations." The company also "advises communities and countries on issues related to the threat of weapons of mass destruction and natural pandemics."

Kadlec formed the company with W. Craig Vanderwagen, the first HHS ASPR after the post's creation had been largely orchestrated by Kadlec. The other co-founder of East West Protection was Fuad El-Hibri, the founder of BioPort/Emergent Biosolutions, who had just stepped down as Emergent's CEO earlier that year.

El-Hibri has numerous business connections to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, where he and his father, Ibrahim El-Hibri, had once sold stockpiles of anthrax vaccine to the Saudi government for an exorbitant price per dose. East West Protection chased after the opportunity to fit the Kingdom with a custom-built biodefense system, but ultimately failed to finalize the deal despite El-Hibri's connections. Instead, East West Protection sold its products to a handful of U.S. states.

Kadlec was the firm's director from its founding until at least 2015 , later selling his stake in the company to El-Hibri. Upon being nominated to serve as ASPR in the Trump administration, Kadlec failed to disclose his ties to East West Protection and El-Hibri and he has since claimed to only have been involved in the founding of the firm, despite evidence to the contrary .

Robert Kadlec's forays into the private sector during this period went far beyond East West Protection. Kadlec's consultancy firm, RPK Consulting, netted him in $451,000 in 2014 alone, where he directly advised Emergent Biosolutions as well as other pharmaceutical companies like Bavarian Nordic. Kadlec was also a consultant to military and intelligence contractors, such as the DARPA-backed firm Invincea and NSA contractor Scitor, which was recently acquired by SAIC.

Kadlec's consulting work for intelligence-linked companies earned him the praises of spooks turned entreprenuers, including Steve Cash – a former CIA officer and founder of Deck Prism , itself a consultancy firm that retained Kadlec. Cash recently told The Washington Post that "Everybody loves Dr. Bob [Kadlec]," adding that he was a "national treasure."

ON BIOWARFARE'S EVE

Kadlec had certainly been accumulating a treasure chest of power aided by some very cozy relationships in the consulting business and, by now, the stage had been set for a big push to create an official body within the halls of the legislature; an embedded consultancy firm, of sorts, to promote the designs of the biowarfare clique.

That year, Robert Kadlec put together a Blue Ribbon Study Panel sponsored jointly by the Hudson Institute and a PIPS subsidiary institution called the Inter-University Center for Terrorism Studies ( IUCTS ), managed by Dr. Yonah Alexander. Kadlec's Blue Ribbon Panel was chaired by Senator Joe Lieberman and included the indispensable input of Tom Daschle, Donna Shalala and other members of the biowarfare policy club.

The study panel issued a report in late 2015 entitled " A National Blueprint for Biodefense " calling for 33 specific initiatives, such as the creation of a " biodefense hospital system " and implementing a "military-civilian collaboration for biodefense." In addition, the panel recommended that the office of the Vice President lead a White House "Coordination Council" to oversee and guide biodefense policy.

An official body called the Bipartisan Commission on Biodefense would be formed shortly thereafter with all the Blue Ribbon Panel members and many others like Commission co-chair Tom Ridge and, perhaps unsurprisingly, Tevi Troy and Yonah Alexander, who serve as Ex-officio members. Alongside them is Lewis "Scooter" Libby, former Chief of Staff to Dick Cheney and Senior Vice President of the Hudson Institute, which also happens to be the fiscal sponsor of the Commission.

In the acknowledgements , the panel's 2015 report includes an homage to Robert Kadlec to whom they bestow credit for the achievement, which only "exists because of the foresight, forbearance, and perpetual optimism of Dr. Robert Kadlec. Bob understood that as much progress as had been made in the national effort to prevent and prepare for biological threats, it is not yet enough. He knew that with the right impetus, we could do much more, and he envisioned this Panel as a means to that end. We are glad he did."

Kadlec mounted this last offensive while serving as Deputy Staff Director for Senator Richard Burr's Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, a position he would hold until the eve of Donald Trump's election in 2016. Trump would then nominate him to the office of the ASPR and Kadlec would be confirmed in early August of the following year.

Only one piece of the puzzle was left, but it wouldn't be very long before Robert Kadlec would become the biggest capo of them all with a subtle change that was introduced in the 2018 PAHPRA :

Title III – Sec 301

1) DELEGATION TO ASPR. -- Subsection (a)(1) of section 319F–2 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 247d–6b) is amended by striking ''in collaboration with the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention'' and inserting ''acting through the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.''

[May 14, 2020] Libertarians who are extraordinarily sensitive to the least legal limitation on negative freedom are usually completely immune to the idea that structural features of capitalist society are coercive and freedom-limiting

May 14, 2020 | crookedtimber.org

Anarcho 05.06.20 at 3:18 pm 5

"Libertarians who are extraordinarily sensitive to the least legal limitation on negative freedom are usually completely immune to the idea that structural features of capitalist society are coercive and freedom-limiting. "

I think you will discover that those who coined the term libertarian (libertarie) which the propertarians knowning stole in the 1950s are well aware of those structural features -- as Proudhon argued, property is both theft and despotism.:

http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/160-years-libertarian

Please don't let these defenders of private tyranny continue their abuse of the good left-wing word libertarian.

[May 14, 2020] 'I Didn't Know Anything': Former Obama Official Criticized After Classified Testimony Contradicts Her Public Statements by Jonathan Turley

Notable quotes:
"... One of the most embarrassing is the testimony of Evelyn Farkas, a former Obama Administration official who was widely quoted in her plea to Congress to gather the evidence that she knew was found in by the Obama Administration. In her testimony under oath Farkas repeatedly stated that she knew of no such evidence of collusion. ..."
"... Farkas, who served as the deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia, was widely quoted when she said on MSNBC in 2017 that she feared that evidence she knew about would be destroyed by the Trump Administration. She stated: ..."
"... ...was urging my former colleagues, and, frankly speaking, the people on the Hill Get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can, before President Obama leaves the administration, because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people that left. So it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy . . . the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about their, the staff, the Trump staff's dealing with Russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence. So I became very worried, because not enough was coming out into the open, and I knew that there was more. ..."
"... 'You also didn't know whether or not anybody in the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia, did you?' Gowdy later asked, getting to the point. ..."
"... "I didn't," Farkas responded. ..."
May 11, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

The long-delayed release of testimony from the House Intelligence Committee has proved embarrassing for a variety of former Obama officials who have been extensively quoted on the allegedly strong evidence of collusion by the Trump campaign and the Russians. Figures like James Clapper, who is a CNN expert, long indicated hat the evidence from the Obama Administration was strong and alarming. However, in testimony, Clapper denied seeing any such evidence .

One of the most embarrassing is the testimony of Evelyn Farkas, a former Obama Administration official who was widely quoted in her plea to Congress to gather the evidence that she knew was found in by the Obama Administration. In her testimony under oath Farkas repeatedly stated that she knew of no such evidence of collusion.

Farkas, who served as the deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia, was widely quoted when she said on MSNBC in 2017 that she feared that evidence she knew about would be destroyed by the Trump Administration. She stated:

...was urging my former colleagues, and, frankly speaking, the people on the Hill Get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can, before President Obama leaves the administration, because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people that left. So it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy . . . the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about their, the staff, the Trump staff's dealing with Russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence. So I became very worried, because not enough was coming out into the open, and I knew that there was more.
MSNBC never seriously questioned the statements despite the fact that Farkas left the Obama Administration in 2015 before any such investigation could have occurred. As we have seen before, the factual and legal basis for such statements are largely immaterial in the age of echo journalism. The statement fit the narrative even if it lacked any plausible basis.

Not surprisingly, the House Intelligence Committee was eager to have Farkas share all that she stated she "knew about ["the Trump folks"], their staff, the Trump's staff's dealing with Russian" and wanted to get "into the open." After all, she told MSNBC that "I knew that there was more."

She was finally put under oath in the closed classified sessions and there was nothing but classified crickets. Farkas was repeatedly asked to share that information that electrified the MSNBC hosts and audience. She repeatedly denied any such knowledge, telling then Rep. Trey Gowdy (R, S.C.), "I didn't know anything."

Gowdy noted that Farkas left the Obama administration in 2015 and asked "Then how did you know?" She repeated again "I didn't know anything."

Gowdy then asked "Well, then why would you say, we knew?"

He also asked:

'You also didn't know whether or not anybody in the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia, did you?' Gowdy later asked, getting to the point.
"I didn't," Farkas responded.

MSNBC has said nothing about its prior headline story being untrue. Indeed, the media has barely acknowledged that the new documents reinforce that there was never any evidence of collusion and ultimately the allegations were rejected by the Special Counsel, Congress, and inspectors general.

For her part, Farkas has moved on. She is running for Congress . She is still citing her role in raising "the alarm" about Russian collusion:

'fter I left the Obama administration, I campaigned to help elect Secretary Clinton as our next President. When Russians interfered in that election, I was among the first to sound the alarm and urge Congress to take action. And I haven't let up since then.
She was indeed one of the first but it proved to be a false alarm based on nonexistent knowledge. Does that matter anymore?

Reprinted with permission from JonathanTurley.org .


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[May 12, 2020] Israel To Annex the United States by Philip Giraldi

In reality this is vice versa -- Israel is a kind of unrecognized US state with multiple and outrageous special privileges
May 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Over the past three years Donald J. Trump has delivered on his promise to be the "best friend in Washington that Israel has ever had."

...That Trump was willing to highlight and promote a major pander to the Israel Lobby on the very day he was inaugurated is more than just telling, it is bizarre.

Wally , says: Show Comment May 11, 2020 at 11:40 pm GMT

Joe Biden:

"You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist – I am a Zionist, My Name is Joe Biden, and Everybody Knows I Love Israel."

geokat62 , says: Show Comment May 12, 2020 at 2:24 am GMT

Israel to Annex the United States

It was already de facto all that remains is de jure !

[May 10, 2020] Suspicion And Skepticism Are Vaccines For Deception

May 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Doug "Uncola" Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com,

"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. "

- Voltaire

I once read a definition of psychological depression as a result of anger and fatigue. That seems about right. Personally, I'm sick of COVID-19 dominating the headlines and I definitely have inner rage at the magic spell that's been cast over society. And it is a magic spell. Or an ill wind, if you prefer. Except tracking the source of a voodoo curse, or determining where a breeze began, might be easier than identifying the many variables of this planned-demic . Truly, the overwhelming information is difficult to process on any given day.

Last week, I read an article describing how COVID-19 is a hoax propagandized by the media and, a few minutes later, I watched a video of a survival expert (whom I very much respect) chastise those who are not taking COVID-19 seriously as a genuine health threat.

Then, I was informed of an acquaintance dying from coronavirus. I knew the man personally and the last time we spoke he was telling me about his new girlfriend. His death was deemed notable enough to have a write-up included into the COVID-19 series of a national newspaper; and that's how I learned he died – when someone sent me the link. I'll also say he was in his seventies and his blood pressure was so high his eyes were constantly bloodshot.

So did he die with COVID-19 or from COVID-19? Yes, he did.

Indeed, lots of variables to consider. And it's tricky because health policies are a matter of public concern AND private responsibility. It's why considering the variables requires balance and common sense. Yet, unsurprisingly, it's become obvious COVID-19 has been politicized by some and even commandeered by others for purposes of power consolidation and achieving authoritarian goals.

Certainly, the virus doesn't need to be devastatingly lethal in order to accomplish the objectives of the globalists. At any given time, the ship of state progresses via (what I have designated as) the "Bulbous Bow of Confusion" , or, rather, competing narratives.

Two physicians who own five urgent care locations in Kern County California recently posted a viral YouTube video citing their own COVID-19 data and calling for an end to the draconian lockdowns. Their names are Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi and the data they compiled acted as a "resistance wave" to countermand the official narrative put forth by ( as I've identified in past articles ) the likes of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), World Health Organization (WHO), The Gates Foundation, John Hopkins University, and UK's The Guardian.

Yet, today, if you click on any previous articles where the doctors' viral videos were once posted you will see they've been taken down; and even their other videos queued in the threads of the articles have been transitioned into dead links by our benefactors at YouTube.

Truly, censorship is the validation of ideas as the most powerful force on earth; because if you now search for the two doctors by name on YouTube, you will find a video stamped with the Washington Post logo describing "What Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi get wrong about coronavirus" .

Meanwhile, The Guardian, whose entire Global Development section is underwritten by the Gates Foundation , describes how scientists have found more evidence that Coronavirus can travel on air pollution particles .

Scary, huh?

Especially, when considering how another Gates Foundation subsidiary , the World Health Organization (WHO), has warned the worst of the virus is still ahead and that "people will need to get used to a new way of living" .

To be sure, the billionaires are committed. They can't go back now and this is why they are on full offense in the narrative war. It means no expense will be spared in the media onslaught until every person in the world fears COVID-19 being spread from cats and farts . It's also why various treatments are claimed to be ineffective and only the five innovations proposed by the New American King should be considered:

[Bill Gates] said the innovations needed to come in five areas: treatments, vaccines, testing, contact tracing, and policies for reopening the economy.

But what about Trump? He is still the U.S. President, right?

In past postings, I've exhaustively considered Trump as a possible "movie" or "reality TV show". My article entitled "Personal Politics, Public Impeachment, Persuasion and Post-Apocalyptic Planning" also discussed how the Military Industrial Complex has NOT grown weaker in the decades since Eisenhower and Kennedy – and, in fact, cited the trend of its growing strength from Abe Lincoln through the creation of the Federal Reserve, and Woodrow Wilson, onward.

I've additionally speculated in previous writings President Trump as one of the following:

1.) The Real Deal – fighting the Dark Lords out of love of country

2.) Being used by the Dark Powers unwittingly

3.) A Judas Goat

At this point in time, it appears the possibility of # 1 is fading, if not having been completely debunked as of this writing.

So, given #'s 2 & 3 above, I've previously questioned if Trump was elected as a " bleeding of the brake lines " prior to the " big stop " (i.e. end of America).

Therefore, what if the Trump Reality TV Show® was meant to demonstrate the sheer power of "The Controllers" and their ability to convert the globe into One World under Communism? And, furthermore, what if the 2016 Presidential Election was staged to illustrate to all nations the futility of resistance?

Consider the waves that have crashed upon Trump's shores over the past four years: Russiagate/Mueller, Ukrainian Impeachment, and, now, COVID-19. Each of these consecutive waves were increasingly consequential from a historical perspective.

Is the war to "drain-the-swamp" real? Because, if not, the battle lines have been made clear and the tech gods have cataloged our IP addresses.

Which brings us back to Bill Gates: His digital fingerprints are all over the COVID-19 virus because, in the years prior, Gates worked to strategically monopolize global health including research , governance , and reporting . In addition, his dirty hands have reached into online data, U.S. intelligence, mainstream media, the GAVI Vaccine Alliance , and Microsoft's ID2020 digital ID initiative. Plus, the Gates Foundation has donated the most private money to the World Health Organization (WHO), subsidized the October 2019 "Event 201" pandemic exercise , and even sponsored an event that was labeled communist propaganda – the globally televised "Together at Home" elitist infomercial ;

Since the United States recently suspended its payments to the WHO, the organization's biggest contributor is now the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Another major contributor to the WHO is the GAVI Alliance (formerly the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation). Both of these organizations are also part of ID2020, an organization that is advocating for the use of vaccines to implement a global digital ID system using tattoos or microchips.

And just as the company Gates founded (Microsoft) recently released, and then recalled, a "luciferian" advertisement starring "spirit-cooking" priestess Marina Abramović , the Gates' World Health Organization (WHO) mandates have allowed "heroes" to arrest mothers on playgrounds in front of their children .

Honestly, it really does add an entirely fresh perspective on the words of Isaiah 5:20 :

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

Now, paradoxically, a new bioluminescent vaccine is making headlines. If you can believe this it's called "Luciferase" and it can store vaccination history through a new dye made available with MIT research funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation .

Wow, that was fast, huh?

Or was it planned? And for those who would say it was planned, would you call them "conspiracy theorists"? But, seriously, is it really conspiracy if it's all been published ?

Because, over the decades, it has become quite evident that wealthy individuals, influential families, and powerful organizations and corporations have coopted nation-states in order to unite the globe. World War I delivered the League of Nations and World War II brought about the United Nations. Since then, the billionaire round-table groups have only grown more interconnected as Davos Men planned and the Bilderberg's conspired .

The modern era has progressed by committee; and to the giant sucking sounds as predicted by former presidential candidate Ross Perot.

In 2010, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Global Business Network drafted a document entitled " Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development " which outlined the following potential plans schemes through 2030: " Lock Step ", " Clever Together ", " Hack Attack ", and " Smart Scramble ".

The first link below is a 54-page (2.29 MB sized) PDF file. Even if the Bill Gates' inspired MS Windows gives you a virus warning, just know the file can be viewed (or downloaded) with no issues. Or, if you would rather watch a one-hour, forty-two-minute video presentation, just click on link # 2 below:

1.) PDF FILE: Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development

2.) VIDEO (1:42:34): COVID – LOCKDOWN – GLOBAL BANKRUPTCY – the PLAN

Note that on page 18 of the PDF (#1 above), the "Lock Step" scenario describes a 2012 pandemic leading to a global economic collapse followed by oppressive authoritarian controls:

In 2012, the pandemic that the world had been anticipating for years finally hit. Unlike 2009's H1N1, this new influenza strain -- originating from wild geese -- was extremely virulent and deadly. Even the most pandemic-prepared nations were quickly overwhelmed when the virus streaked around the world The pandemic also had a deadly effect on economies: international mobility of both people and goods screeched to a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and breaking global supply chains. Even locally, normally bustling shops and office buildings sat empty for months, devoid of both employees and customers.

. The United States' initial policy of "strongly discouraging" citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better -- China in particular. The Chinese government's quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post-pandemic recovery.

China's government was not the only one that took extreme measures to protect its citizens from risk and exposure. During the pandemic, national leaders around the world flexed their authority and imposed airtight rules and restrictions, from the mandatory wearing of face masks to body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets. Even after the pandemic faded, this more authoritarian control and oversight of citizens and their activities stuck and even intensified. In order to protect themselves from the spread of increasingly global problems -- from pandemics and transnational terrorism to environmental crises and rising poverty -- leaders around the world took a firmer grip on power.

At first, the notion of a more controlled world gained wide acceptance and approval. Citizens willingly gave up some of their sovereignty -- and their privacy -- to more paternalistic states in exchange for greater safety and stability. Citizens were more tolerant, and even eager, for top-down direction and oversight, and national leaders had more latitude to impose order in the ways they saw fit. In developed countries, this heightened oversight took many forms: biometric IDs for all citizens, for example, and tighter regulation of key industries whose stability was deemed vital to national interests.

Sound familiar? Because this was the dialectic with which we were presented: " Herd Immunity® " (an Orwellian term befitting cattle) or " Continuous" COVID-19®. And what did American's chose? They picked " continuous ", Alex, for $1,200 per U.S. citizen. And as we Flattened the Curve ®, the CDC broadcasted concerns regarding second waves of coronaviruses as telescreens the world over warned of mutant strains of coronaviruses more contagious than the original .

Yes. Both Coronavirus®, and Big Brother, Incorporated have marched forward unencumbered.

But as people sheltered in their homes they saw "conservative" Never-Trumpers weaponize the ghost of Ronald Reagan against the Bad Orange Man® with a video entitled "Mourning in America" . It was too cute by half. Then, fortunately, as the world remained mystified by "covid toes" , the president tweeted back at the Never-Trump "losers" in the most ingenious and gratifying ways.

And Trump is just getting warmed up. No doubt his Zoom® debates with Biden are bound to be hilarious. Unless Whistleblowergate Part Deux is the silver-bullet that will stop the Bad Orange Man® once and for all?

(CNN) Dr. Rick Bright, the ousted director of the office involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine, formally filed an extensive whistleblower complaint Tuesday alleging his early warnings about the coronavirus were ignored and that his caution at a treatment favored by President Donald Trump led to his removal.

For the Democrats, the future looks "Bright", no?

In my previous article entitled "On Used Cars, Haircuts, and Buyers Beware" , I referenced "Hegelian Polemics" and therein linked an article entitled "Hegelian Dialectic: A Tool To Enslave Humanity" .

What I found interesting in that article is how it identified "opposing sides" (i.e. opposites) as "capstones" on the bottom of the "pyramid" – with the top capstone (eye) as representative of the final action:

The chess board is a well-known Masonic or Hegelian symbol, the black and white squares symbolize control through duality in the grand game of life in all aspects. Left or right, white or black people, conservative or liberal, democrat or republican, Christian or Muslim and so on. Through two opposing parties control is gained as both parties reach the same destination, which is order through guided conflict or chaos.

Left (thesis) versus right (antithesis) equals middle ground or control (synthesis). The triangle and all seeing eye we see so often symbolizes the completion of the great work

The pyramid is supported by the bottom opposing sides. The capstone at the top is established through controlled solution or middle ground.

In my piece entitled "On Channel Surfing, Circus Acts, and Time Passages" , I discussed the 1927 movie "Metropolis" as a favorite of the occult. The words that appear on the screen at the end of that film are these:

THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN THE HEAD AND HANDS MUST BE THE HEART!

A 2010 article posted on TheVigilantCitizen.com speculated on the "mediator" as the electronic media which manipulates the plebes (workers) on behalf of the head (controllers).

To be sure, the Modern Centralizers craft their new realities by means of the Orwellian Media. It's why they call it programming . And what better way to manipulate the emotions (hearts) of people than by fiction and fear?

With that in mind, I now call your attention to the below video link of the opening ceremonies for the 2012 Olympics:

The Complete London 2012 Opening Ceremony | London 2012 Olympic Games

If one cares to click that link and view the segment shown between the 45 and 55 minute marks, they will see what appears to be a staged viral pandemic. The drama takes place beneath black pyramids malevolently towering over the stadium (and the crowd) and ends with the appearance of a giant, creepy-looking baby; or maybe a still-birth – it's hard to tell.

At the 45 to 47 minute mark, we see kids in hospital beds surrounded by dancing nurses and doctors. At around the 47:30 mark, the medical staff/dancers put the kids to bed and with fingers over their months, urging silence. What appears to be a giant virus then appears center-stage at the around the 48 minute mark.

Then, around the 49 minute mark, Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling reads from Peter Pan and says: "But in the two minutes before you go to sleep, it is real ". Next, shadowy virus-looking demons take the stage to chase the children, and dark horses towing a magician and a steel cage glide behind an oriental woman who is looking elsewhere as the pandemic commences.

The 49:50 mark shows what appears to be a giant (British Prime Minister) Boris Johnson sick in bed.

Finally, as the dark magicians cast their spells and the viruses dance, the nurses and doctors appear paralyzed and robotic – like puppets (50:45 to 51:45 mark) before Mary Poppins figures descend from the sky.

In my research, I found another article by the Vigilant Citizen dated August 17, 2012 , and it had this to say back then regarding the opening ceremonies of the 2012 Olympics:

The next important sequence of the ceremony paid tribute to the National Health Service (NHS) and Great Ormond Street Hospital (GOSH). The set combined sick kids on hospital beds with characters from English children's literature and had a very strange and dark undertone from the start, when it began with the theme from The Exorcist, which is, in case you don't know, a movie about a child possessed by the Devil. Odd choice.

The sequence begins with children on hospital beds who get put to sleep by nurses. Then J.K. Rowling appears and reads a quote from Peter Pan alluding to Neverland, which becomes real in the "two minutes before you go to sleep". I couldn't say if that was done on purpose, but many elements of this set, mostly the mix of vulnerable children in a hospital with fairy tales and the concept of blurring the lines between reality and fiction, are all associated with mind control programming. Like the Wizard of Oz and Alice of Wonderland, the story of Peter Pan is heavily used in mind control programming as victims are told to escape to "Neverland" while inducing dissociation from reality.

The same article also addressed the 2012 Olympic closing ceremonie s (video at this link) and showing a new world order rising like a phoenix; while referencing The Who, no less.

At midnight, the Olympic cauldron and the petals representing each country are slowly extinguished, but the phoenix, representing the occult elite and the New World Order, stays lit above it. In other words, as the nations of the world slowly disappear, a New World Order will emerge. On that note, let's listen to The Who!

Of course, listen to The Who rock band? Or the World Health Organization (WHO)? Coincidence or conspiracy? You're probably right.

So, to summarize: 2012 was the same year the Rockefeller Foundation predicted the "Lock Step" pandemic scenario as the Olympic ceremonies that year showed opposing sides battling over children during the opening ceremonies and followed by the resolution in the closing ceremonies: A new phoenix rising from the ashes – like a new world order.

Order out of chaos.

Therefore, if COVID-19 was, indeed, a PLANdemic perpetrated by dark forces, was my aforementioned friend murdered by those who now want us to self-quarantine and wear masks for the safety of those being murdered? Most likely; because observing luciferian pedophiles through their symbols is like identifying hidden planets via the observed effects of gravitation, or studying game theory when the game is rigged.

It's how we can identify who "they" are, but only for people willing to first acknowledge that "they" exist. Unfortunately, it's a wasted effort on most. One might as well don a tinfoil hat and chase shadows on a magic pony.

Therefore, perhaps it's easier to digest the words of physician and former Presidential Candidate Ron Paul when it comes to explaining Coronavirus tyranny, forced vaccinations and 'Digital Certificates' :

Proponents of mandatory vaccines and enhanced surveillance are trying to blackmail the American people by arguing that the lockdown cannot end unless we create a healthcare surveillance state and make vaccination mandatory. The growing number of Americans who are tired of not being able to go to work, school, or church, or even to take their children to a park because of government mandates should reject this "deal." Instead, they should demand an immediate end to the lockdowns and the restoration of individual responsibility for deciding how best to protect their health.

Regrettably, it was supposed to be a season of graduation parties, weddings, and Fourth of July celebrations. But these have been displaced by lockdowns, social distancing, bodies in refrigerated trucks, fear, magic spells, and propaganda.

Fox News Host Tucker Carlson has even recently bemoaned the New America's resemblance to communist China :

Big companies partnering with the government to spy on you without your knowledge. Americans locked in their homes, banned from going to church, placated with sedatives like beer and weed. Anyone who speaks up is silenced. Political demonstrations are illegal. Organizers are arrested. Only opinions approved by unelected leaders are allowed on information platforms. Sound familiar? It sounds a lot like China. Of all the many ironies of this moment, so many of them bitter, the hardest to swallow is this: as we fight this virus, we are becoming far more like the country that spawned it. We're becoming more like China. It's horrifying.

Those in power are the ones the our professional class seeks to protect, not the country. Freedom of conscience never endangers the public. It only threatens the powerful. It endangers their control. It hinders their ability to dictate election results, to loot the economy, to make policies based on whim for their own gain. No wonder our leaders have done such a poor job protecting us from China. They're on the same team.

– Tucker Carlson Tonight: Tuesday, April 28, 2020

Sadly, it appears Trump may be a crisis actor, like Anthony Fauci , and part of the plan from the start. The final details were solidified years ago – including the bioengineered PLANdemic.

China is quite likely part of the plan, too, since One World Under Communism has become the desired destination of the billionaires; with millions dying along the way. For those who do survive, they'll be allowed to work , consume , and obey . Of course, many Americans will not cooperate with their planned demise and this is why The Central Planners will need a great big war.

Both President Trump and his Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, are tying Coronavirus to the "government laboratory in Wuhan" and now the Chinese are warning of possible armed conflict with the U.S. over the COVID-19 backlash ­.

Most recently, in an Oval Office Press conference on May 6, 2020, Trump actually blamed China for Coronavirus while claiming it is the "worst attack we've ever had" :

"This is worse than Pearl Harbor, this is worse than the World Trade Center. There's never been an attack like this.

– President Donald Trump – May 6, 2020

It means events could potentially occur as follows: As soon as rock-solid proof is revealed that China released the virus to take out Trump because our great president was winning the trade wars, then, the Orange-Haired Wonder will rally national support via sorrowful lamentations while standing tall on reality TV amidst the economic ruins.

A bumbling first strike by the U.S. could allow a Sino-Russian alliance to seal America's fate once and for all; and most likely by nuclear means.

Then any surviving sheeple will eagerly line up for the Bill Gates of Hell special: A free digital tattoo along with a bonus vaccination and bowl of soup.

Welcome to the end of the rainbow. Orwell was right: we've always been at war with Eastasia and jackboots will stomp on human faces forever. Unless, that is, the digital drip-drops from Q-anon and our online commentaries change the future.

Conclusion

Those gathering at the round tables have been tremendously successful in our societal programming . Yet most of them are mere puppets to the inner rings of concentric power. The monsters that once lurked under our beds were set loose years ago and, today, they dress in drag and read to kids in libraries while others wear blue uniforms and arrest mothers for taking kids to playgrounds.

And where are the men of action? Where are the lovers of liberty? In my area, they've been fishing. And grilling. And why not? Trump is in the White House while Nancy Pelosi is locked in her gourmet kitchen eating fancy ice cream. The stimulus checks are in the bank, the grocery stores are still open, and if the fish aren't biting, those who would stand up to tyranny can always grab a bucket of chicken through the KFC drive-thru on the way home. At least for now.

As far as national lockdowns go, this has been the best one ever. So far.

For obvious reasons, I've been thinking of the autistic livestock guru Temple Grandin and how she pioneered more humane methods of leading animals to slaughter. One of the methods was to have cattle march to their demise single file via tall shutes. That sort of isolation seems reminiscent of what's occurring in America now – with people staring at walls, muzzled by masks, and numbly following orders while remaining six-feet apart.

How can people resist when they've been fooled? How can they fight back when they're frightened? And why have they placed their hope in safety instead of liberty ?

Good questions.

Real hope remains in the smart choices, right actions, and the prepping and survival decisions made every day by those awake and aware. But no matter what the future holds, may all reading this be surrounded by friends and loved ones who know Epstein didn't kill himself.

[May 08, 2020] Navy Captain Brett Crozier vs Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, a Navy seal who was clearly guilty of murder in Afghanistan

May 08, 2020 | www.unz.com

Appealing to his base of support, Trump has notoriously pardoned Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, a Navy seal who was clearly guilty of murder in Afghanistan, and even met with him afterwards in the White House. Regarding Gallagher, Senate Armed Services Committee Democrat Jack Reed of Rhode Island said in a November that "The White House's handling of this matter erodes the basic command structure of the military and the basic function of the Uniform Code of Military Justice."

Trump is now meddling in the treatment of Navy Captain Brett Crozier, who was relieved of his command after he went public with complains about the spread of coronavirus on his ship. In early April the president said "I may just get involved." In the military services such interference even has a name, "undue command influence." Clearly, the White House is seeking to squeeze every bit of political advantage it can from the Crozier story.

Congressman Smith has also described the situation in a colorful fashion as "The president has made it clear as far as he is concerned the single most important attribute that anybody in the federal government can have is a willingness to kiss the president's ass as often as possible" which "undermines your ability to be competent, to make decisions based on what is the right thing to do as opposed to what is going to feed the president's limitless ego."

To be sure, Donald Trump is not about to change and if he is re-elected one can only expect four more years of the same, but public confidence in government can only be maintained if there is at least some belief that decision making is a rational process. Trump has clearly turned that axiom on its head in his tendency to blame other parts of the government for what are manifestly his own failings. His characterization of senior officials, many of whom he himself appointed, as "losers" casts the entire government in a bad light. Whether the strategy of divide and conquer within one's own administration will work out for Trump will certainly be decided in November.

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

[May 01, 2020] Trump is a salesman first and foremost. As a former pharmaceutical rep I am well aware that most salesmen are suckers for most sales pitches as an intrinsic part of their personalities.

The absence of sufficient state controls in a democracy enables the wealthy class to manipulate the economy, the press and elected representatives for its own gain. A widening gulf between poverty and affluence develops, gradually dragging the working class to ruin
Notable quotes:
"... Our economy is based on the wet dream of sycophants like Mnuchin who barely escaped prison for his games in the wake of devastation of the subprime loan disaster on 2008, and neoliberals who are much better at playing him then the opposite. So he's a puppet for Wall Street AND a closet neocon. Would the demonstrably senile Biden be any better? Not a chance, so once again the majority of Americans are left with a sham election whereby two flavors of the same shit are what's being fed to us. ..."
May 01, 2020 | www.unz.com

Gyre07 , says: Show Comment April 30, 2020 at 3:45 pm GMT

@Priss Factor Assuming he's even motivated by a desire to make America a better Constitutional Republic, Trump is a salesman first and foremost. As a former pharmaceutical rep I am well aware that most salesmen are suckers for most sales pitches as an intrinsic part of their personalities.

So as I watch Trump being manipulated continuously by a variety of slick and confident grifters inhabiting the world stage with their multitude of transparent agendas I can only go, "that figures". I mean, he's basically just a more alpha version of GW Bush, so the fact that we haven't gone full gonzo yet on another nation is something of a miracle. Instead he's waging war by collapsing economies he views as competitors OR those of countries he wants to invade to steal natural resources from. As for the health of America, we're fucked.

Our economy is based on the wet dream of sycophants like Mnuchin who barely escaped prison for his games in the wake of devastation of the subprime loan disaster on 2008, and neoliberals who are much better at playing him then the opposite. So he's a puppet for Wall Street AND a closet neocon. Would the demonstrably senile Biden be any better? Not a chance, so once again the majority of Americans are left with a sham election whereby two flavors of the same shit are what's being fed to us.

Digital Samizdat , says: Show Comment April 30, 2020 at 4:49 pm GMT
@anon

Government and big money seem to have formed a nexus, dominated by a very small number of people, who seem to be at war with us.

I seem to agree.

Emily , says: Show Comment April 30, 2020 at 9:34 pm GMT
Until the American people demand electoral reform – you ain't going nowhere.
You need another party and you need to vote for it.
Stuff the neo lib or neo lib or neo lib – of the existing choice.
You have a two headed hydra – in reality a one party state.
Financed and controlled by puppet masters.
The democracy in the US is a total sham
A fraud and farce.
And you need fair voting.
Used by most democracies – PR – Proportional Representation.
Where votes mean seats.
A Ron Paul party would be a dream.
But until America gets off its fat bots and seriously acts to become a democratic state – you are getting what you continue to vote for.
Greed, corruption and elite rule – bought and paid for in the House and Senate down.
Nothing but a puppet, pawn and tax collector for another foreign power.
And you dare to mass murder and bomb in the name of 'regime change' and democracy to create your vile rule of law across the planet
Gross, an abomination – a facist state.

[May 01, 2020] Dr. Ron Paul Interview: Bill Gates Tony Fauci Are Determined To Run The World by Vaccines

May 01, 2020 | www.unz.com

Agent76 , says: Show Comment April 30, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT

Apr 16, 2020 Dr. Ron Paul Interview: Bill Gates & Tony Fauci Are Determined To Run The World by Vaccines

Dr. Paul and Spiro discuss the current coronavirus crisis and the political, social and economic fallout effecting millions of Americans, as people begin to display resistance to the government lockdown response.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/LKkByA7nC4U?feature=oembed

Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell

James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11

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2.3 TRillion Dollars Missing from DOD Day before 9/11/ 2001

SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 Defense Business Practices

Secretary Rumsfeld and other officials talked with reporters about the need to refine the Defense Department's business practices. An opening ceremony will kick off Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week. They answered questions from members of the media

http://www.c-span.org/video/?165947-1/defense-business-practices

[Apr 29, 2020] China's Rise, America's Fall by Ron Unz

The rumors of the USA demise, including economic demise are greatly exaggerated. Germany and Japan -- the USA allies makes stuff, stuff that people all over the world want to buy – just as the USA did forty years ago. Machine tools, robots, silicon, carbon fibre.
I just wouldn't be so quick to predict the fall of the US visa vis China. The Chinese have now picked all the low hanging fruit. Now, with the USA awakening to the threat, it will become harder for them to sustain growth with little natural resources, pressing population problems, hostility of the USA, and now the spectre of national debt crisis.
Notable quotes:
"... Why Nations Fail ..."
"... Evidence for the long-term decline in our economic circumstances is most apparent when we consider the situation of younger Americans. The national media endlessly trumpets the tiny number of youthful Facebook millionaires, but the prospects for most of their contemporaries are actually quite grim. According to research from the Pew Center, barely half of 18- to 24-year-old Americans are currently employed, the lowest level since 1948, a time long before most women had joined the labor force. Nearly one-fifth of young men age 25–34 are still living with their parents, while the wealth of all households headed by those younger than 35 is 68 percent lower today than it was in 1984. ..."
"... Why Nations Fail ..."
"... Harvard Law Review ..."
"... Wall Street Journal ..."
"... Why Nations Fail ..."
"... Why Nations Fail ..."
"... Ron Unz is publisher of ..."
"... and founder of Unz.org . ..."
"... The state of US politics can only be accurately described as self-destructive. The government's hubris is bringing down the foundations of the economy, and it's only a matter of time before we end up living in the ruins of a dead civilization. ..."
"... The basic fact that supports any capitalist system, is that increasing productivity will increase wealth, that is, real wealth. Huge military expenditures all towards the goal of keeping raw resources a little bit cheaper, and a financial structure increasingly designed to encourage making money from money, are absolutely insane. This is Ancient Rome all over again. ..."
"... I do agree, however with earlier commentators about American lack of discipline. Years ago, cutting through the Engineering School at Rutgers, I was struck that the vast majority of students were foreigners, mostly Asian. Americans at that time just went to school to party. ..."
"... China is not to blame for America's decline, America has to face its own ghosts; the 15 trillion dollars debt, the unemployment, inequality, huge military spending, endless wars that is what you have to confront. ..."
"... Never was a piece written so needed to be read. We are a one party country. We are totally failed by our media for the "most" part. ..."
"... The US is an plutocracy, not a democracy. ..."
"... Mr. Unz said, "And since we live in a entertainment-dominated society, sentiments affirmed on then screen often have direct real-world consequences." ..."
"... In Iceland, it already happened, over a very short span of time. But the Icelandic native populace literally ejected them corporally from the govt. buildings, and now the heads of the major banks have been criminally sentenced and imprisoned, Iceland has the only PM to have been criminally convicted in the financial crisis. Dire predictions by other mafiosi of economic meltdown as a consequence of the "too big to fail" going to jail have yet to materialise, Iceland is doing fine. ..."
"... Far from a great advance for Chinese workers, however, it is the direct result of a consolidation of power in the hands of a small clique of powerful families, families that have actively collaborated with Western financial oligarchs. ..."
Apr 29, 2020 | www.unz.com

America's Economic Decline

These facts do not provide much evidence for the thesis in Why Nations Fail that China's leaders constitute a self-serving and venal "extractive" elite. Unfortunately, such indications seem far more apparent when we direct our gaze inward, toward the recent economic and social trajectory of our own country

Against the backdrop of remarkable Chinese progress, America mostly presents a very gloomy picture. Certainly America's top engineers and entrepreneurs have created many of the world's most important technologies, sometimes becoming enormously wealthy in the process. But these economic successes are not typical nor have their benefits been widely distributed. Over the last 40 years, a large majority of American workers have seen their real incomes stagnate or decline.

Meanwhile, the rapid concentration of American wealth continues apace: the richest 1 percent of America's population now holds as much net wealth as the bottom 90–95 percent, and these trends may even be accelerating. A recent study revealed that during our supposed recovery of the last couple of years, 93 percent of the total increase in national income went to the top 1 percent, with an astonishing 37 percent being captured by just the wealthiest 0.01 percent of the population, 15,000 households in a nation of well over 300 million people.

Evidence for the long-term decline in our economic circumstances is most apparent when we consider the situation of younger Americans. The national media endlessly trumpets the tiny number of youthful Facebook millionaires, but the prospects for most of their contemporaries are actually quite grim. According to research from the Pew Center, barely half of 18- to 24-year-old Americans are currently employed, the lowest level since 1948, a time long before most women had joined the labor force. Nearly one-fifth of young men age 25–34 are still living with their parents, while the wealth of all households headed by those younger than 35 is 68 percent lower today than it was in 1984.

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The total outstanding amount of non-dischargeable student-loan debt has crossed the trillion-dollar mark, now surpassing the combined total of credit-card and auto-loan debt -- and with a quarter of all student-loan payers now delinquent, there are worrisome indicators that much of it will remain a permanent burden, reducing many millions to long-term debt peonage. A huge swath of America's younger generation seems completely impoverished, and likely to remain so.

International trade statistics, meanwhile, demonstrate that although Apple and Google are doing quite well, our overall economy is not. For many years now our largest goods export has been government IOUs, whose dollar value has sometimes been greater than that of the next ten categories combined. At some point, perhaps sooner than we think, the rest of the world will lose its appetite for this non-functional product, and our currency will collapse, together with our standard of living. Similar Cassandra-like warnings were issued for years about the housing bubble or the profligacy of the Greek government, and were proven false year after year until one day they suddenly became true.

Ironically enough, there is actually one major category in which American expansion still easily tops that of China, both today and for the indefinite future: population growth. The rate of America's demographic increase passed that of China over 20 years ago and has been greater every year since, sometimes by as much as a factor of two. According to standard projections, China's population in 2050 will be almost exactly what it was in 2000, with the country having achieved the population stability typical of advanced, prosperous societies. But during that same half-century, the number of America's inhabitants will have grown by almost 50 percent, a rate totally unprecedented in the developed world and actually greater than that found in numerous Third World countries such as Colombia, Algeria, Thailand, Mexico, or Indonesia. A combination of very rapid population growth and doubtful prospects for equally rapid economic growth does not bode well for the likely quality of the 2050 American Dream.

China rises while America falls, but are there major causal connections between these two concurrent trends now reshaping the future of our world? Not that I can see. American politicians and pundits are naturally fearful of taking on the fierce special interest groups that dominate their political universe, so they often seek an external scapegoat to explicate the misery of their constituents, sometimes choosing to focus on China. But this is merely political theater for the ignorant and the gullible.

Various studies have suggested that China's currency may be substantially undervalued, but even if the frequent demands of Paul Krugman and others were met and the yuan rapidly appreciated another 15 or 20 percent, few industrial jobs would return to American shores, while working-class Americans might pay much more for their basic necessities. And if China opened wide its borders to more American movies or financial services, the multimillionaires of Hollywood and Wall Street might grow even richer, but ordinary Americans would see little benefit. It is always easier for a nation to point an accusing finger at foreigners rather than honestly admit that almost all its terrible problems are essentially self-inflicted.

Decay of Constitutional Democracy

The central theme of Why Nations Fail is that political institutions and the behavior of ruling elites largely determine the economic success or failure of countries. If most Americans have experienced virtually no economic gains for decades, perhaps we should cast our gaze at these factors in our own society.

Our elites boast about the greatness of our constitutional democracy, the wondrous human rights we enjoy, the freedom and rule of law that have long made America a light unto the nations of the world and a spiritual draw for oppressed peoples everywhere, including China itself. But are these claims actually correct? They often stack up very strangely when they appear in the opinion pages of our major newspapers, coming just after the news reporting, whose facts tell a very different story.

Just last year, the Obama administration initiated a massive months-long bombing campaign against the duly recognized government of Libya on "humanitarian" grounds, then argued with a straight face that a military effort comprising hundreds of bombing sorties and over a billion dollars in combat costs did not actually constitute "warfare," and hence was completely exempt from the established provisions of the Congressional War Powers Act. A few months later, Congress overwhelmingly passed and President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act, granting the president power to permanently imprison without trial or charges any American whom he classifies as a national-security threat based on his own judgment and secret evidence. When we consider that American society has experienced virtually no domestic terrorism during the past decade, we must wonder how long our remaining constitutional liberties would survive if we were facing frequent real-life attacks by an actual terrorist underground, such as had been the case for many years with the IRA in Britain, ETA in Spain, or the Red Brigades in Italy.

Most recently, President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have claimed the inherent right of an American president to summarily execute anyone anywhere in the world, American citizen or not, whom White House advisors have privately decided was a "bad person." While it is certainly true that major world governments have occasionally assassinated their political enemies abroad, I have never before heard these dark deeds publicly proclaimed as legitimate and aboveboard. Certainly if the governments of Russia or China, let alone Iran, declared their inherent right to kill anyone anywhere in the world whom they didn't like, our media pundits would immediately blast these statements as proof of their total criminal insanity.

These are very strange notions of the "rule of law" for the administration of a president who had once served as top editor of the Harvard Law Review and who was routinely flattered in his political campaigns by being described as a "constitutional scholar."

Many of these negative ideological trends have been absorbed and accepted by the popular culture and much of the American public. Over the last decade one of the highest-rated shows on American television was "24", created by Joel Surnow and chronicling Kiefer Sutherland as a patriotic but ruthless Secret Service agent, with each episode constituting a single hour of his desperate efforts to thwart terrorist plots and safeguard our national security. Numerous episodes featured our hero torturing suspected evildoers in order to extract the information necessary to save innocent lives, with the entire series representing a popular weekly glorification of graphic government torture on behalf of the greater good.

Now soft-headed protestations to the contrary, most governments around the world have at least occasionally practiced torture, especially when combating popular insurgencies, and some of the more brutal regimes, including Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany, even professionalized the process. But such dark deeds done in secret were always vigorously denied in public, and the popular films and other media of Stalin's Soviet Union invariably featured pure-hearted workers and peasants bravely doing their honorable and patriotic duty for the Motherland, rather than the terrible torments being daily inflicted in the cellars of the Lubyanka prison. Throughout all of modern history, I am not aware of a single even semi-civilized country that publicly celebrated the activities of its professional government torturers in the popular media. Certainly such sentiments would have been totally abhorrent and unthinkable in the "conservative Hollywood" of the Cold War 1950s.

And since we live in a entertainment-dominated society, sentiments affirmed on the screen often have direct real-world consequences. At one point, senior American military and counter-terrorism officials felt the need to travel to Hollywood and urge its screenwriters to stop glorifying American torture, since their shows were encouraging U.S. soldiers to torture Muslim captives even when their commanding officers repeatedly ordered them not to do so.

Given these facts, we should hardly be surprised that international surveys over the past decade have regularly ranked America as the world's most hated major nation, a remarkable achievement given the dominant global role of American media and entertainment and also the enormous international sympathy that initially flowed to our country following the 9/11 attacks.

An Emerging One-Party State

So far at least, these extra-constitutional and often brutal methods have not been directed toward controlling America's own political system; we remain a democracy rather than a dictatorship. But does our current system actually possess the central feature of a true democracy, namely a high degree of popular influence over major government policies? Here the evidence seems more ambiguous.

Consider the pattern of the last decade. With two ruinous wars and a financial collapse to his record, George W. Bush was widely regarded as one of the most disastrous presidents in American history, and at times his public approval numbers sank to the lowest levels ever measured. The sweeping victory of his successor, Barack Obama, represented more a repudiation of Bush and his policies than anything else, and leading political activists, left and right alike, characterized Obama as Bush's absolute antithesis, both in background and in ideology. This sentiment was certainly shared abroad, with Obama being selected for the Nobel Peace Prize just months after entering office, based on the widespread assumption that he was certain to reverse most of the policies of his detested predecessor and restore America to sanity.

Yet almost none of these reversals took place. Instead, the continuity of administration policy has been so complete and so obvious that many critics now routinely speak of the Bush/Obama administration.

The harsh violations of constitutional principles and civil liberties which Bush pioneered following the 9/11 attacks have only further intensified under Obama, the heralded Harvard constitutional scholar and ardent civil libertarian, and this has occurred without the excuse of any major new terrorist attacks. During his Democratic primary campaign, Obama promised that he would move to end Bush's futile Iraq War immediately upon taking office, but instead large American forces remained in place for years until heavy pressure from the Iraqi government finally forced their removal; meanwhile, America's occupation army in Afghanistan actually tripled in size. The government bailout of the hated financial manipulators of Wall Street, begun under Bush, continued apace under Obama, with no serious attempts at either government prosecution or drastic reform. Americans are still mostly suffering through the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, but Wall Street profits and multimillion-dollar bonuses soon returned to record levels.

In particular, the continuity of top officials has been remarkable. As Bush's second defense secretary, Robert Gates had been responsible for the ongoing management of America's foreign wars and military occupations since 2006; Obama kept him on, and he continued to play the same role in the new administration. Similarly, Timothy Geithner had been one of Bush's most senior financial appointments, playing a crucial role in the widely unpopular financial bailout of Wall Street; Obama promoted him to Treasury secretary and authorized continuation of those same policies. Ben Bernanke had been appointed chairman of the Federal Reserve by Bush and was reappointed by Obama. Bush wars and bailouts became Obama wars and bailouts. The American public voted for an anti-Bush, but got Bush's third term instead.

During the Cold War, Soviet propagandists routinely characterized our democracy as a sham, with the American public merely selecting which of the two intertwined branches of their single political party should alternate in office, while the actual underlying policies remained essentially unchanged, being decided and implemented by the same corrupt ruling class. This accusation may have been mostly false at the time it was made but seems disturbingly accurate today.

When times are hard and government policies are widely unpopular, but voters are only offered a choice between the rival slick marketing campaigns of Coke and Pepsi, cynicism can reach extreme proportions. Over the last year, surveys have shown that the public non-approval of Congress -- representing Washington's political establishment -- has ranged as high as 90–95 percent, which is completely unprecedented.

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But if our government policies are so broadly unpopular, why are we unable to change them through the sacred power of the vote? The answer is that America's system of government has increasingly morphed from being a representative democracy to becoming something closer to a mixture of plutocracy and mediacracy, with elections almost entirely determined by money and media, not necessarily in that order. Political leaders are made or broken depending on whether they receive the cash and visibility needed to win office.

National campaigns increasingly seem sordid reality shows for second-rate political celebrities, while our country continues along its path toward multiple looming calamities. Candidates who depart from the script or deviate from the elite D.C. consensus regarding wars or bailouts -- notably a principled ideologue such as Ron Paul -- are routinely stigmatized in the media as dangerous extremists or even entirely airbrushed out of campaign news coverage, as has been humorously highlighted by comedian Jon Stewart.

We know from the collapsed communist states of Eastern Europe that control over the media may determine public perceptions of reality, but it does not change the underlying reality itself, and reality usually has the last laugh. Economics Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz and his colleagues have conservatively estimated the total long-term cost of our disastrous Iraq War at $3 trillion, representing over one-fifth of our entire accumulated national debt, or almost $30,000 per American household. And even now the direct ongoing costs of our Afghanistan War still run $120 billion per year, many times the size of Afghanistan's total GDP. Meanwhile, during these same years the international price of oil has risen from $25 to $125 per barrel -- partly as a consequence of these past military disruptions and growing fears of future ones -- thereby imposing gigantic economic costs upon our society.

And we suffer other costs as well. A recent New York Times story described the morale-building visit of Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to our forces in Afghanistan and noted that all American troops had been required to surrender their weapons before attending his speech and none were allowed to remain armed in his vicinity. Such a command decision seems almost unprecedented in American history and does not reflect well upon the perceived state of our military morale.

Future historians may eventually regard these two failed wars, fought for entirely irrational reasons, as the proximate cause of America's financial and political collapse, representing the historical bookend to our World War II victory, which originally established American global dominance.

Our Extractive Elites

When parasitic elites govern a society along "extractive" lines, a central feature is the massive upward flow of extracted wealth, regardless of any contrary laws or regulations. Certainly America has experienced an enormous growth of officially tolerated corruption as our political system has increasingly consolidated into a one-party state controlled by a unified media-plutocracy.

Consider the late 2011 collapse of MF Global, a midsize but highly reputable brokerage firm. Although this debacle was far smaller than the Lehman bankruptcy or the Enron fraud, it effectively illustrates the incestuous activities of America's overlapping elites. Just a year earlier, Jon Corzine had been installed as CEO, following his terms as Democratic governor and U.S. senator from New Jersey and his previous career as CEO of Goldman Sachs. Perhaps no other American had such a combination of stellar political and financial credentials on his resume. Soon after taking the reins, Corzine decided to boost his company's profits by betting its entire capital and more against the possibility that any European countries might default on their national debts. When he lost that bet, his multi-billion-dollar firm tumbled into bankruptcy.

At this point, the story moves from a commonplace tale of Wall Street arrogance and greed into something out of the Twilight Zone, or perhaps Monty Python. The major newspapers began reporting that customer funds, eventually said to total $1.6 billion, had mysteriously disappeared during the collapse, and no one could determine what had become of them, a very strange claim in our age of massively computerized financial records. Weeks and eventually months passed, tens of millions of dollars were spent on armies of investigators and forensic accountants, but all those customer funds stayed "missing," while the elite media covered this bizarre situation in the most gingerly possible fashion. As an example, a front page Wall Street Journal story on February 23, 2012 suggested that after so many months, there seemed little likelihood that the disappeared customer funds might ever reappear, but also emphasized that absolutely no one was being accused of any wrongdoing. Presumably the journalists were suggesting that the $1.6 billion dollars of customer money had simply walked out the door on its own two feet.

Stories like this give the lie to the endless boasts of our politicians and business pundits that America's financial system is the most transparent and least corrupt in today's world. Certainly America is not unique in the existence of long-term corporate fraud, as was recently shown in the fall of Japan's Olympus Corporation following the discovery of more than a billion dollars in long-hidden investment losses. But when we consider the largest corporate collapses of the last decade that were substantially due to fraud, nearly all the names are American: WorldCom, Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing, and Adelphia. And this list leaves out all the American financial institutions destroyed by the financial meltdown -- such as Lehman, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Washington Mutual, and Wachovia -- and the many trillions of dollars in American homeowner equity and top-rated MBS securities which evaporated during that process. Meanwhile, the largest and longest Ponzi Scheme in world history, that of Bernie Madoff, had survived for decades under the very nose of the SEC, despite a long series of detailed warnings and complaints. The second largest such fraud, that of Allen R. Stanford, also bears the label "Made in the USA."

Some of the sources of Chinese success and American decay are not entirely mysterious. As it happens, the typical professional background of a member of China's political elite is engineering; they were taught to build things. Meanwhile, a remarkable fraction of America's political leadership class attended law school, where they were trained to argue effectively and to manipulate. Thus, we should not be greatly surprised that while China's leaders tend to build, America's leaders seem to prefer endless manipulation, whether of words, money, or people.

How corrupt is the American society fashioned by our current ruling elites? That question is perhaps more ambiguous than it might seem. According to the standard world rankings produced by Transparency International, the United States is a reasonably clean country, with corruption being considerably higher than in the nations of Northern Europe or elsewhere in the Anglosphere, but much lower than in most of the rest of the world, including China.

But I suspect that this one-dimensional metric fails to capture some of the central anomalies of America's current social dilemma. Unlike the situation in many Third World countries, American teachers and tax inspectors very rarely solicit bribes, and there is little overlap in personnel between our local police and the criminals whom they pursue. Most ordinary Americans are generally honest. So by these basic measures of day-to-day corruption, America is quite clean, not too different from Germany or Japan.

By contrast, local village authorities in China have a notorious tendency to seize public land and sell it to real estate developers for huge personal profits. This sort of daily misbehavior has produced an annual Chinese total of up to 90,000 so-called "mass incidents" -- public strikes, protests, or riots -- usually directed against corrupt local officials or businessmen.

However, although American micro-corruption is rare, we seem to suffer from appalling levels of macro-corruption, situations in which our various ruling elites squander or misappropriate tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars of our national wealth, sometimes doing so just barely on one side of technical legality and sometimes on the other.

Sweden is among the cleanest societies in Europe, while Sicily is perhaps the most corrupt. But suppose a large clan of ruthless Sicilian Mafiosi moved to Sweden and somehow managed to gain control of its government. On a day-to-day basis, little would change, with Swedish traffic policemen and building inspectors performing their duties with the same sort of incorruptible efficiency as before, and I suspect that Sweden's Transparency International rankings would scarcely decline. But meanwhile, a large fraction of Sweden's accumulated national wealth might gradually be stolen and transferred to secret Cayman Islands bank accounts, or invested in Latin American drug cartels, and eventually the entire plundered economy would collapse.

Ordinary Americans who work hard and seek to earn an honest living for themselves and their families appear to be suffering the ill effects of exactly this same sort of elite-driven economic pillage. The roots of our national decline will be found at the very top of our society, among the One Percent, or more likely the 0.1 percent.

Thus, the ideas presented in Why Nations Fail seem both true and false. The claim that harmful political institutions and corrupt elites can inflict huge economic damage upon a society seems absolutely correct. But while the authors turn a harsh eye toward elite misbehavior across time and space -- from ancient Rome to Czarist Russia to rising China -- their vision seems to turn rosy-tinted when they consider present-day America, the society in which they themselves live and whose ruling elites lavishly fund the academic institutions with which they are affiliated. Given the American realities of the last dozen years, it is quite remarkable that the scholars who wrote a book entitled Why Nations Fail never glanced outside their own office windows.

A similar dangerous reticence may afflict most of our media, which appears much more eager to focus on self-inflicted disasters in foreign countries than on those here at home. Presented below is a companion case-study, " Chinese Melamine and American Vioxx: A Comparison ," in which I point out that while the American media a few years ago joined its Chinese counterparts in devoting enormous coverage to the deaths of a few Chinese children from tainted infant formula, it paid relatively little attention to a somewhat similar domestic public-health disaster that killed many tens or even hundreds of thousands of Americans.

A society's media and academic organs constitute the sensory apparatus and central nervous system of its body politic, and if the information these provide is seriously misleading, looming dangers may fester and grow. A media and academy that are highly corrupt or dishonest constitute a deadly national peril. And although the political leadership of undemocratic China might dearly wish to hide all its major mistakes, its crude propaganda machinery often fails at this self-destructive task. But America's own societal information system is vastly more skilled and experienced in shaping reality to meet the needs of business and government leaders, and this very success does tremendous damage to our country.

Perhaps Americans really do prefer that their broadcasters provide Happy News and that their political campaigns constitute amusing reality shows. Certainly the cheering coliseum crowds of the Roman Empire favored their bread and circuses over the difficult and dangerous tasks that their ancestors had undertaken during Rome's rise to world greatness. And so long as we can continue to trade bits of printed paper carrying presidential portraits for flat-screen TVs from Chinese factories, perhaps all is well and no one need be too concerned about the apparent course of our national trajectory, least of all our political leadership class.

But if so, then we must admit that Richard Lynn, a prominent British scholar, has been correct in predicting for a decade or longer that the global dominance of the European-derived peoples is rapidly drawing to its end and within the foreseeable future the torch of human progress and world leadership will inevitably pass into Chinese hands.

Ron Unz is publisher of The American Conservative and founder of Unz.org .


Sean Scallon , says: Website Show Comment April 18, 2012 at 5:11 pm GMT

Very good piece and very perceptive about reality in the U.S.
Jack Ross , says: Show Comment April 18, 2012 at 6:43 pm GMT
Definitely on the money regarding the U.S., I'm not sure the outlook for China though is quite so rosy. I fear you made a serious mistake of burying the lead. That said, one other issue you should have mentioned is the way the two major parties monopolize access to the ballot, as discussed in a recent Al Jazeera series on the frauds of American democracy.
platocrat , says: Show Comment April 18, 2012 at 9:44 pm GMT
"Certainly America has experienced an enormous growth of officially tolerated corruption as our political system has increasingly consolidated into a one-party state controlled by a unified media-plutocracy."

In a nutshell.

JonF , says: Show Comment April 18, 2012 at 9:57 pm GMT
Re: This failure suggests another reason for the decay of US (and Western European) society: political correctness

Huh? And while demographics may not be destiny, demography should not be ignored either. The US is likely to have a younger population structure than China which, as others have noted, is going to grow old without first growing rich– not an enviable situation. Moreover that population is likely to include a fair number of unmarried men for whom no women are available. That's pretty muich unprecedented in history (although the reverse has occasionally happened due to wars), and I have no idea how it will play out, but I suspect it will not be a mark in China's plus column.

This piece whistewashes China's enormous challenges while exaggerating America's. That's not to say we have no challenges nor that China does not have its strengths. Still, I would sooner bet the farm on the US coming through this century without major political calamity than China doing so. (Note: I said "calamity", I did not say "change". Both countries, will need to change a lot– something true of the whole world)

Dave , says: Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 12:23 am GMT
1/ I saw this movie before-in the '70's. Only then 'China' was called 'Japan'.

2/ As to history and the 2 party system, nothing new:

Gates was Bush's Sec'y of Defense and became Obama's Sec'y of Defense.

Stanton was Buchanan's Sec'y of War and became Lincoln's Sec'y of War.

And America has always had its plunderers-see the Gilded Age-Jay Gould (et al) plundered as do today's plutocrats.

And American governments have gone around killing US citizens without seriously attempting to arrest them (see J Dillinger, C Barrow, B Parker)

Bob Arctor , says: Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 2:49 am GMT
America's worse than third world style population growth isn't an advantage in any way, shape or form. Firstly, energy availability (and not labor) will be the bounding factor for economic growth over the next few decades, and secondly the only sectors of the population that are growing are those with the absolute least level of relevant skills that will be needed in years that are to come.

No other developed nation, save almost empty Canada and Austrailia, have ever seen massive population growth such as this.

Bob Arctor , says: Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 3:31 am GMT
Japan and China is not remotely a fair comparison – Japan has only 127 million people whereas China has 1331 million people. When China reaches American levels of economic development, as Japan did in the 1980's, the implications for America, both political and economic, are going to be vastly more severe than they were when Japan emerged as a developed nation. Think of 2030 China as being ten and a half 2012 Japans to get an rough idea of what's coming.

JonF:

A good number of hunter gatherer societies that survived into modern times, such as the Yanomano in South America, had much more lopsided sex ratios than China does today. This isn't new.

JonF , says: Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 10:07 am GMT
Bob Arctor,

Yes, some societies have had an excess of women after many men have been killed in warfare: Germany and France after WWI, or the American South after the Civil War. But an excess of men is pretty much unprecedented.

Jamie , says: Website Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 12:43 pm GMT
America has become the most hated country on earth along with Israel,and the tyranicle government that controlls the country with all their crimes and lies will make America a country no smart person would want to be a citizen.America can do better if people wake up to the coruption and stop spending as much as the rest of the world on their military.It's not a matter of if but when China becomes the biggest economy,but also the strongest military by far on earth.I just hope China don't act like the American criminal government wasting tax payers money on illegal wars baised on lies.It's been happening for over 100 years,but know they do it in the open and have tottaly ignored the constitution.The 1 thing that made America great was the constitution and as time goes by it is ignored to the point the rest of the world and Americans see that America has no high ground,unless you call mudering innocent civilians in illegal wars.America is bankrupt and when they can no longer afford to bribe others it will collapes and the hatred it has caused for it'self will turn the entire world against it.Even Israel will no longer be because of their warmongering and raceist government.
Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Website Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 3:50 pm GMT
The subtitle, "Which superpower is more threatened by its "extractive elites"?" reflects what I believe is the most important political issue of the times. As one commenter pointed out above, really there is nothing all that different now. I suspect this is largely true in that 'the masses' have usually lived many steps removed from understanding what is 'really going on.' However today we are all linked on the material plane through electronic communication and transportation in a way that before was never possible in that most ordinary people lived nearly all of their lives bounded within a very small geographical, aka 'local' area. They were place-bound, in other words. Now we are not. And because we are not the opportunity and scope for mass deception have greatly increased along with the ability of ruling elites to be more and more extractive.

I suspect you could almost make a mathematical formula out of it along the lines of: S = F+O * (E/C), where S = Society or Stable & Sane Society, F = Freedom (opportunity, creativity etc.), O = Organisation (cultural institutions of education, governance, manners, language, both in terms of efficiency and levels of corruption/deceit etc. ), E = Elites/Leadership class and C = Checks and Balances.

Something like that. Assuming a scale of 1-100 in each case, in the US I think it is about: S = 70+50 * (95/35) = 120 * 2.7 = 325.7.

China: S = 45+65(110) * (75/50) = 100* 1.5 = 150.

China has 45 F-freedom to US 70.
China has 65 O-Organisation to US 50.
China has 75 E-Elites to US 95.
China has 50 C-Checks to US 35.

All of these are highly arguable of course but I think most would agree their freedom quotient is lower, albeit the US has some of the worst upward / class mobility figures in the West as a 10-year NYT study showed a while back.
China seems to have far greater organisational skills, as witnessed by their development of high speed rail of late, which the US is incapable of doing.
Because of much greater power on the local level, I have given Chinese Elites a lower score even though if we were to believe our own media, you would think that the US doesn't really have any elites and China is a monolithic top-down beast.
For the same reason, I put in more Checks for China since I believe their people demonstrate and organise far more energetically than those in the West, and that the Elites have to pay far more attention to them. This is a wild guess.

Ken Zaretzke , says: Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 6:30 pm GMT
The notion of "extractive elites" inadvertently wrecking their own country's future prospects is rich with irony -- of the Alfred E. Neumann kind ("What, me worry?"). What about the extraction of coal? It is the U.S. that is bribing China with coal exports -- America's relatively most abundant natural resource -- so that the Chinese will tolerate America's fiscal irresponsibility by continuing to prop up the dollar. Six months ago I sent a letter about this to my local county council, which will decide in the next year whether to allow the largest coal terminal in North America to be built (at the behest of Goldman Sachs, among others) just a few miles from where I was living until recently, in the idyllic town of Ferndale, WA. I maintained that one doesn't need to be a Green Party member in order to oppose the coal terminal project -- any ardent nationalist worth his salt can, and ought to, oppose it tooth and nail.

Coal terminals which make possible the shipping of millions of tons of coal to China would be a disaster on several counts. Symbolically and as a matter of policy, the coal exports would demonstrate America's economic subjection to China, the "Caesar" to whom we would be paying tribute. Environmentally, the mercury and other pollution will drift back across the Atlantic to the Pacific Northwest. These are just two of the problems. So why is the Republican Party bending over backwards to join Peabody Coal and Goldman Sachs in trying to build the largest coal terminal on the continent in Whatcom County, and other terminals elsewhere in Washington and Oregon? What besides money, greed, and shortsightedness is behind conservatives' obliviousness to the long-term dangers, both real and symbolic, of America's bowing down to China with massive coal exports?

The Stupid Party, indeed

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 19, 2012 at 6:49 pm GMT
Thank you for an excellent article on what is happening. My only criticism is that it appears that these things "just happen". With your insight and erudition, could you please address "why" the situation has arisen. What could be the motivation behind actions and policies which so clearly will destroy not only the 99% but also the basic wealth of the1%?

This is not something new, but a recurrent theme in world affairs.

Many thanks

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 12:09 am GMT
Excellent, excellent article by Unz.

Acemoglu and Robinson "characterize China's ruling elites as "extractive" -- parasitic and corrupt -- and predict that Chinese economic growth will soon falter and decline" China's ruling elites! China's ruling elites are extractive, parasitic & corrupt!

Bwaaahaaahaaahaaaa

What are Acemoglu and Robinson on? Crack? LSD? Crystal Meth?

China's ruling elites are frigging angels and saints compared to the monsters, maniacs and morons creating misery amidst colossal wealth (stolen by them) in the USA. The US elite is a parasite so bloated and stupid it is killing its host and maybe the rest of the planet too.

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 3:14 am GMT
The state of US politics can only be accurately described as self-destructive. The government's hubris is bringing down the foundations of the economy, and it's only a matter of time before we end up living in the ruins of a dead civilization.

The basic fact that supports any capitalist system, is that increasing productivity will increase wealth, that is, real wealth. Huge military expenditures all towards the goal of keeping raw resources a little bit cheaper, and a financial structure increasingly designed to encourage making money from money, are absolutely insane. This is Ancient Rome all over again.

The issues of energy and pollution are serious enough to threaten the global economy in the long-term, but the social system here doesn't sufficiently support innovation to do much about them. How is America supposed to be competitive in the future if we don't?

For example, we're not going to "run out" of oil any time soon, but when it comes primarily from tar sands and underwater drilling, it's going to be tremendously expensive, and with more expensive energy, our standard of living will decline. Other common energy sources have the same problem. Common sense dictates that we innovate ahead of time. The possibility of resource substitution doesn't happen by magic. But of course, that would require an conscious investment in that direction.

And as for pollution, maybe high-speed rail and electric cars are part of a solution, maybe they're not, as some commenters have suggested, but what's definitely not a solution is not trying anything all. We need clean air and clean water, or else we'll die. Our food sources do, too.

And it's not entirely obvious to people who don't read about what makes China attractive for investment, but it's not solely cheap labor. (In fact, Chinese labor is more expensive than in, say, India or Bangladesh. Not to mention that Chinese bureaucracy is not all that easy to deal with!) China has constructed highly attractive logistics systems, and has an increasingly educated and disciplined labor force. In America, we have infrastructure that's becoming obsolete, and an education system that produces a lot of stupid citizens who have no idea how to create value. With the latter, it's no wonder we have an "entitlement culture."

If this all doesn't change, I'm not sticking around, waiting for this ship to sink.

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 3:47 am GMT
Finally! A Conservative who tells the truth. Sir, you and Paul Craig Roberts are just the men to lead the GOP out of the wilderness and back to sanity.

Your words coincide with the words of pissed off Progressives (such as myself) and the youth at OWS movements.

We need more honesty from your side, such as Buddy Roehmer offered before the recent GOP primary devolved into the Clown Reality Show which avoided hard topics such as these you've addressed head on in "China's Rise, America's Fall".

If the GOP has no room for you, Mr. Unz, maybe you should join the Green Party or help concerned Americans from both sides start a new party. Just a thought.

Your honesty is courageous. And I believe when the Neo-Cons and Oligarchs on the Right read your words, you'll be in for a rough ride with Rush and Faux News. Stay the course. Stay true to what you have written here. Courage.

Just this one piece you have written will move me to subscribe to your magazine, a first for me, subscribing to a magazine with the word "Conservative" in it.

Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Abraham Lincoln and Barry Goldwater would be proud of what you wrote, Sir. As would Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, and Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Rock Trueblood

Vickie , says: Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm GMT
Hopefully China will continue to improve and the people there get more freedom. However, the Tienanmen Square incident is not a small thing. I suspect the elites in China have no more respect for their people than ours do. Infanticide, forced abortion and summary execution are not policies to emulate. What the west has, the importance of the individual, the idea that the State is supposed to be subservient to a higher law are not ideas to trade away for a mess of pottage.

I do agree, however with earlier commentators about American lack of discipline. Years ago, cutting through the Engineering School at Rutgers, I was struck that the vast majority of students were foreigners, mostly Asian. Americans at that time just went to school to party.

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 3:14 pm GMT
With her extractive elites America has taken a different path but has, ironically, arrived at the same terminus as the old Soviet Union: Too much economic power in the hands of too few.
Steve Roth , says: Website Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 5:48 pm GMT
I find it amazing what is not mentioned here: that the dynamic of extractive elites being described started its rapid upward trajectory at exactly the time that Reagan "conservative" policies came to dominate public policy discourse.
James Canning , says: Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 11:06 pm GMT
To some extent, the relative decline of the US economically owes a good deal to idiotic levels of spending on "defence". Trillions of dollars have been squandered over the past two or three decades.
James Canning , says: Show Comment April 20, 2012 at 11:07 pm GMT
Kolya – – The Soviet Union spent far too much on "defense". Putin has noted this fact as partly explaining the collapse of the USSR.
Matt says: Show Comment April 21, 2012 at 10:14 am GMT
The author has forgotten to mention race and diversity as a factor that ensures America will not rise again. China is an homogeneous country with no need of a parasitic diversity industry hovering overhead trying to enforce its ideas of what any given activity should 'look like'. Chinese have an average intelligence above that of whites and are not saddled with untold millions of low IQ third world people hanging like a millstone round their necks. An entirely white America might have had half a chance of keeping pace with Chinese growth, but today's America has no chance at all.
Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2012 at 12:42 pm GMT
Thanks – this piece is right on target, and revealed to me a good deal of economic chicanery of which I had previously been unaware.

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A. Aftab , says: Show Comment April 21, 2012 at 1:00 pm GMT
Calgacus, you're right on the money with that comment of yours! A lot of wealthy Americans now live in Costa Rica, HK, Thailand and Malaysia and AUS/NZ. Donald Trump has been investing in Costa Rica very heavily ..and there are probably thousands of other billionaires doing the same.

In case people here haven't noticed, a lot of our super elites have been leaving the U.S. in droves, due to the disproportionally high taxes levied on them now. They are doing this because they are smarter than the rest of us. This started 5 years ago just before the housing crash. Probably has accelerated since 2010 where this article is from.

Have a whiff folks:

http://actionamerica.org/taxecon/ticktick.shtml

And also these:

It's becoming a joke Calgacus ..you're right some of these comments here seem to be absolutely retarded!

A good reality check on the economic situation is to ask around your friends and relatives on whose making the big money now! ..The answer will be pretty obvious.

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2012 at 9:50 pm GMT
Even if China's economy outgrows ours, it would have to be 4x as large as the US economy to match it's per capita income. The Chinese know that they are running against the clock to modernize it's economy.

They're nowhere near as energy efficient in their manufacturing processes and they are burning through their profits to build a big enough energy infrastructure to meet the economic growth needs.

SinoPec is already partnered with ArAmCo and Exxon to build refineries in China which means those Western Companies are already raiding the Chinese treasure chest. GM and Walmart aren't selling their products for free, either. In other words, China has been caught in the global economic web and they're going to get played just like everybody else.

James Guest , says: Show Comment April 22, 2012 at 5:05 am GMT
Two questions.

Does the US not suffer a serioius political Catch 22? You could clean up much of the excessive influence of money for campaigning and the targeting of self-interest simply to get people to bother to vote by adopting the compulsory voting which means that, in Australia, about 90 per cent of those eligible do vote. But what would it do to actual policy when you have such a high proportion of poorly educated and ethnically disaffected poor people with existing entitlements which cause resentment amongst what was once middle America?

And here is an issue for serious empirical study. Why should a great concentration of wealth in the hands of the 1 per cent, or 5 per cent, or 0.1 per cent matter? It is perfectly clear that the very very rich don't consume significantly more of anything scarce or particularly valuable unless one counts the economically painless transfer or Titians and Tintorettos from one billionaired to another before ending up in a public gallery. It is obviously not impossible for a large super-rich class to so indulge themselves in competitive display by building palatial residences, private airstrips and golf courses and so on, that their country's economy is starved of attention and capital. But any suggestion that such a situation is to be found in the US needs to be demonstrated. It seems more likely that high taxes and regulatory burdens are adding so much to the cost of doing business in the US and even driving entrepreneurs to set up elsewhere, so that the owners of capital are not deploying it to the greatest advantage of US citizens. Yet that hypothesis doesn't stand well with the number of Australian software entrepreneurs who leave a country where it is very easy and quick to start a business doesn't have too punitive a tax regime to start or restart in California where public finances are such a threatening mess.

If the US then is still a good place to deploy one's capital in order to make a lot of money (and not do it entirely by Wall Street fiddles) and there are large concentrations of wealth which means large concentrations of investable capital what is the problem? Clearly it is what is being done to the average American of no special talent, intelligence, education or skill whose income is no longer supported by the advantages America had for many years after WW2 and is being suppressed by high immigration. To an outsider it is slightly less clear that the situation is made almost intolerable for the squeezed middle classes by tax burdens which are not fairly born by the very rich. It is perhaps a little more certain that the cost of living of the squeezed middle, including the absurdly high costs of health care, are inflated damagingly by the transfer payments to the under classes and elderly poor which don't give much benefit to the working poor unless one puts a high value on the contribution of their state sales taxes to the keeping of aggressive or hopeless young males in prison ..

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 22, 2012 at 8:04 am GMT
China is not to blame for America's decline, America has to face its own ghosts; the 15 trillion dollars debt, the unemployment, inequality, huge military spending, endless wars that is what you have to confront.

Blaming others for Americas decline is not the solution. Be A man america and pick yourself,learn from your mistakes and move on

denk , says: Show Comment April 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm GMT
china is governed by engineers. amerika is ruled by banksters, lawyers. http://tinyurl.com/6n2f5ho
Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 22, 2012 at 7:29 pm GMT
Another blogger jumping on the bandwagon. So easy to say using numbers without any understanding that numbers don't rule the world – to the dismay of mathematicians everywhere.

None of this takes into account that most of China's population lives in poverty. And if our own "War on Poverty" taught us anything is that their poor will remain poor for a very long time.

There's also no consideration that China is [still] a Communist country. This experiment simply gained them a bypass in the militarization highway. They needed to up their might quicker.

It doesn't take into consideration that their 5,000yo culture doesn't celebrate individuality -never has- and this means the creativity needed to push forth on the leaderboard is nonexistent. In fact, the most creative Chinese are those that come to the USA. You can't lead by proxy.

I am not amazed that the China-uber-allez belief is a conservative thing. Just by definition they cannot forecast the future. The future is full of X factors. X is at the core of America. Your insular perspective of what this nation is all about and what makes it tick make you the LAST ones who will decide where this country goes. I know you're just dying to sell it to someone else before the price goes down. But you, and some of your commentors, have no idea the self-contained power America holds.

PS: having lived in third world countries I can give you a warning if you're thinking of moving to Costa Rica or similar places. The people there don't like loaded-freeloaders. Most of your retirement will be spent on security. And just wait 'til you get your first emergency. Seriously, you're going to be waiting a good while. America still has the best GOVERNMENTAL services in the WORLD. Ouch I said the "G" word. Little known secret: Libertarians don't turn down fast rides to the hospital.

John Finnerty , says: Show Comment April 22, 2012 at 7:46 pm GMT
Never was a piece written so needed to be read. We are a one party country. We are totally failed by our media for the "most" part. God how is Corzine walking around . Why did no one on MSNBC challenge Obama on pulling out of Iraq. The Democratic Party promised in 96 if they got control of both Houses of Congress they would end Iraq. Where are you MSNBC, Ed, Rachel, "Mathews forget Mathews he's been in ther tank for either Party in the White House for years" and the loser on at 10 I can't even remember his name.

Then the Attorney General has he arrested anybody? His only claim to work is the ridiculous suit again Sheriff Arpaio. Holder is beyond doubt the worst AG in decades.

Also finally again someone stated the wealth of the upper 1% compared to the bottom 95% . It is time to throw the bums out in both parties. Obama has got to go we need change even if it fails like him. We are in sad shape how many know friends working endless hours of over time not to be payed for it or hanging on not sure if their job will be there next Monday. It's sad how did they ruined our Country. Buchanan is canned for his book, because it's racist give me a break. Pathetic!!!

Felipe , says: Show Comment April 24, 2012 at 3:49 am GMT
Interesting comments from folks. As one who left the U.S. in dismay and disgust at the depths to which the George W. Bush administration dragged the U.S. and at his election (not re-election since he was not elected in 2000 but appointed by the Supreme Court) in 2004 and one who returned a year ago mostly due to the hope engendered by Obama's election, I tend to be more optimistic about the U.S. but only if we are able to challenge the dark forces that keep the majority of U.S. voters in a state of ignorance and anxiety.

The main challenge right now, as I see it, is to get a constitutional amendment passed that overturns the "Corporations are people, money is free speech" absurd court rulings as, if these are left to stand, will destroy the U.S. faster than a thermonuclear attack. The U.S. has overcome adversity before. We tend to solve problems pretty well when we know what they are and when we're agreed upon what they are. Right now, folks are puzzled and confused about the way forward. And the small size of Obama's successes are a testament not to failings on his part but to the appalling state of the system in which he's forced to operate and the enormous power of forces much bigger than he is. We are ruled by unelected corporations whose Boards pre-select candidates from whom we elect 'freely'.

We are all responsbible for allowing the system to deteriorate this far and for allowing its continuation. But America has come through before why all the doom and gloom now? As an aside, I agree with those who see our continuing and increasing diversity and large-scale immigration as our greatest strengths and these should be nurtured and treasured, not feared. Nobody ever moved forward from a position of fear. Fear can only lead us backward.

Bob Arctor , says: Show Comment April 24, 2012 at 7:18 am GMT
Felipe:

Funnily enough, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and and a score of European nations managed to build First World economies with negligible diversity. It's also rather peculiar that the much less diverse "America" of decades past had a much stronger economy than does modern day America, or that non-diverse China is progressing economically much, much faster than insanely diverse India.

It's almost as if diversity is utterly and completely worthless. I wonder why that is

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment September 13, 2012 at 1:04 am GMT
From the CIA Factbook:

China 91% "Han", 9% Other (Korean, TIbetan, & 53 others comprising a total population of 105 million people)
Languages: 7 major language groups (Jin, Wu, Yue, Min, Xiang, Hakka, Gan) comprising hundreds of dialects and sub-languages

USA 80% White, 12% Black, 8% Other
Languages: 82% English, 10% Spanish, 8% Other

So it seems to me that the USA is only slightly more "diverse" than China in percentage terms when you spell things out in terms of Black and White. However, looking at the cultural variations and especially language, it becomes quite clear that the designation of "Han Chinese" is as meaningful or meaningless as the designation "White American."

I agree however that a nation unable to cope with its own diversity and the challenges it presents by discarding bigotry is doomed to failure.

Marie Arouet , says: Show Comment July 17, 2013 at 5:18 am GMT

Ron,

You might be interested to mention next time that China has overtaken the United States in patent filings, utility model patents, industrial design patents, trade mark filings, as well as scientific paper publications.

Mark Green , says: Website Show Comment February 5, 2014 at 6:31 am GMT
Hi Ron. That was yet another outstanding overview and analysis. Well done!

You have provided your readers a very nuanced view of the countless variables – some intangible, many virtually invisible – that propel a civilization forward, or even over a cliff. There's much to contemplate here. Thank you!

Anonymous Disclaimer , says: Show Comment February 6, 2014 at 5:02 pm GMT
What makes a state fall is well described in "the rise and decline of great powers" and it is related with spending money on missiles and the like.

When a state or country begins to spend more money than the amount she gets in return for the expenses, she is doomed. perhaps America will retain much of her power but she is doomed as far as i understand.

Robert Anderson , says: Show Comment February 25, 2014 at 10:43 pm GMT
The US is an plutocracy, not a democracy.
B-Real , says: Show Comment March 18, 2014 at 8:13 pm GMT
A great analysis. The decline of the US and the rest of the west reminds me of the Fall of the Roman Empire, but I'll have to a little bit more reading to back that up.

And by the way: Remember to be a little bit proud every day of the way you are spending your money. Sites like this is increasingly important in the Age of Misinformation.

conatus , says: Show Comment June 5, 2014 at 2:41 pm GMT
Wow! only four comments! This is an eye opening essay. Our elite are lawyers and they manipulate, China's elite are engineers and they build things. Three trillion on Bush's stupid wars('fought for completely irrational reasons") and our non participating(no draft) populace quietly went along with the entire show! Why?

Mr. Unz said, "And since we live in a entertainment-dominated society, sentiments affirmed on then screen often have direct real-world consequences."

Double Wow or bow-wow, great point!

I also think we are encouraged NOT to participate in the Democratic process as that seems 'angry.' We are shown that in our entertainment.
People who complain about the way-things-are-now are party p0opers and impolite. The first media approved reaction is to scoff and then shun them.

I also think the only safe topic 0f conversation around the water cooler is sports. Again, no politics allowed, unless you are an approved victim. But generally the major league sports of baseball, football and basketball are THE only thing you can talk about publicly, on which you can safely agree. The racial divisions we have created with our blessed multiculturalism, have starkly different interests and the differences are too real in the workplace to discuss them so we all act like Putnam's turtles and talk NFL training camp lingo.

As long as our GDP increases one per cent a year and six-packs of beer are available for Joe Six-pack, everything will be fine, but if the increase turns to a decrease watch out!

redzengenoist , says: Show Comment June 12, 2014 at 9:03 am GMT
"Sweden is among the cleanest societies in Europe, while Sicily is perhaps the most corrupt. But suppose a large clan of ruthless Sicilian Mafiosi moved to Sweden and somehow managed to gain control of its government. On a day-to-day basis, little would change, with Swedish traffic policemen and building inspectors performing their duties with the same sort of incorruptible efficiency as before, and I suspect that Sweden's Transparency International rankings would scarcely decline. But meanwhile, a large fraction of Sweden's accumulated national wealth might gradually be stolen and transferred to secret Cayman Islands bank accounts, or invested in Latin American drug cartels, and eventually the entire plundered economy would collapse."

It's happening in Sweden, unfortunately.

In Iceland, it already happened, over a very short span of time. But the Icelandic native populace literally ejected them corporally from the govt. buildings, and now the heads of the major banks have been criminally sentenced and imprisoned, Iceland has the only PM to have been criminally convicted in the financial crisis. Dire predictions by other mafiosi of economic meltdown as a consequence of the "too big to fail" going to jail have yet to materialise, Iceland is doing fine.

Randal , says: Show Comment March 13, 2017 at 1:15 pm GMT
Excellent piece.

Some of the sources of Chinese success and American decay are not entirely mysterious. As it happens, the typical professional background of a member of China's political elite is engineering; they were taught to build things. Meanwhile, a remarkable fraction of America's political leadership class attended law school, where they were trained to argue effectively and to manipulate. Thus, we should not be greatly surprised that while China's leaders tend to build, America's leaders seem to prefer endless manipulation, whether of words, money, or people.

Great stuff.

It's also noticeable that when China creates a "crisis" it's by building new land, whereas the US creates crises by fomenting strife and bombing. Construction versus destruction seems to be a theme.

Agent76 , says: Show Comment March 13, 2017 at 7:15 pm GMT
Aug 26, 2015 How the West Re-colonized China

The "Chinese dragon" of the last two decades may be faltering but it is still hailed by many as an economic miracle.

Far from a great advance for Chinese workers, however, it is the direct result of a consolidation of power in the hands of a small clique of powerful families, families that have actively collaborated with Western financial oligarchs.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/WxFSvPUY_oc?feature=oembed

9/11 Inside job , says: Show Comment April 29, 2020 at 12:04 pm GMT
newsbud.com ;

"The Rockefellers and Rothschilds in China :a long intimate relationship" :

"The history of Wall Street and Anglo-American finance in China is one that is rarely discussed in Western media or even academia , whereas knowing it would explain much about both China's stunning economic rise over the past 70 years ,as well as seemingly rising tensions between China and the US today."

Johnny Walker Read , says: Show Comment April 29, 2020 at 1:50 pm GMT
I must say Ron made many good points and predictions in his article of several years ago. America has been a clown world of a one-party political system since the end of WWII.

Never before has it been so obvious we have a government of, by, and for the rich corporate kleptocrat's who control every aspect of life in this country.

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I am a retired Teamster in Syracuse, New York, who joined the civil rights, antiwar, and environmental movements as a teenager in the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1960s. In 1984, I co-founded the Green Party. In 2010, I was the first U.S. candidate to campaign for a Green New Deal in the first of three campaigns for New York governor that won Green Party ballot lines.

To end the climate crisis, I have detailed an Ecosocialist Green New Deal to create 38 million new jobs, 100% clean energy, and zero carbon emissions by 2030.

To end poverty and economic insecurity, I propose an Economic Bill of Rights: job guarantee, guaranteed minimum income, affordable housing, improved Medicare for all, tuition-free public education pre–K to college, and secure retirement by doubling Social Security.

To end endless wars, I support 75% military spending cuts, U.S. troops home, diplomacy, international law, human rights, and a Global Green New Deal.

To end the new nuclear arms race, I favor no first use, minimum credible deterrent, and ratification of the new Nuclear Weapons Ban Treaty.

I support unions, $20 minimum wage, worker co-ops, public banks, public energy, public railroads, progressive taxation, net neutrality, internet privacy, ending mass surveillance, no nukes, no fracking, abortion rights, student and medical debt relief, decriminalizing drugs, ending mass incarceration, police under community control, immigrant amnesty, African-American reparations, Indian and Mexican-American treaty rights, whistleblower and political prisoner pardons, and presidential elections by National Popular Vote using Ranked-Choice Voting. [Ranked Choice Voting is a huge fraud -- which many well-meaning people fall for]
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[Apr 21, 2020] Ukrainegate partially paralyzed Trump administration and probably without it Trump would act quicker and more decisively

Apr 21, 2020 | www.unz.com

RationalRabbit , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:57 pm GMT

@Anonymous

There was nothing illegal in the Ukraine call, therefore no need for the IG to report it. And until someone got a bee under their bonnet, 2nd hand information did not legally qualify as "whistle-blowing" but someone changed the reporting form (a piece of paper not a law of Congress) to hide that little problem.

Exactly. Yes, Trump put people in in charge who wouldn't try to sabotage his agenda – how awful. Trump also put people in charge to stop the corruption and money laundering of the Obama appointees. For example, EPA funneling money to environmental groups by settling instead of fighting lawsuits and then these environmental groups taking that settlement money and funneling it back to Obama and the Democrats.

The people elected Trump not any of these technocrats. Philip Giraldi seems to be applauding their subversion of the Republic.

Skeptikal , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:51 pm GMT
Agreed. Trump is awful.

But I can't help thinking that it's payback time for those who wasted Americans' time and mental energy on the impeachment circus. Anyone who advanced the "get rid of Trump" agenda should have expected to get canned down the road if the game plan didn't work out.

the idea of Israeli companies feeding at the trough is stomach-churning. Again, those who do not like this picture maybe should have considered that trying to cut trump off at the knees and breaking a whole bunch of rules to do so might have blowback in the future. And, there doesn't seem to be anyone in congress with the stomach or cojones or even conviction to end the Zionist chumming.

Who in Congress is standing up for the interests of Americans as against those of rich Israeli entrepreneurs who are taking this country for a ride?

I don't give a flying eff about anyone who participated in the "Get Trump" theatrics. Or about anyone who gave Obama a pass of the same s -- that Trump does.

The show is all ending very badly for the American people, and the world.

Bizarro World Observer , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:03 pm GMT
@Anonymous True enough, but neocons -- or neo-Trots, which is more accurate -- are not loyal to Trump, or anyone else except each other and Israel. And they are certainly not populists, patriots, or nationalists.

Trump has hired a bunch of fifth columnists, who will stab him in the back at every opportunity.

TG , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:03 pm GMT
Well, yes and no.

If anything, the greatest failing of Trump was that, after he took office, he surrounded himself with advisors who were opposed to his agenda – and the agenda that the American people elected him to enact.

It is true, government officials should not be personally loyal to the president. But they should dutifully try to enact his policies, or else resign in protest. To do less is to subvert democracy (or at least, whatever is left of it). Although it must be admitted Trump is increasingly doing the worst of both worlds: surrounding himself with hostile officials for things the people want (like no more pointless foreign wars), and surrounding himself with sycophants when its for crony capitalism

As far as stopping immigration being unconstitutional, with respect, unconstitutional is whatever 500 billionaires don't want. So you see, separating the alleged children of people illegally crossing the border from their parents is clearly unconstitutional, but separating people convicted of any other crime from their children is perfectly OK. Because the rich want cheap labor.

But if the rich no longer need massive immigration to lower wages – which may be the case for the near future – then the rich will no longer care about 'immigrants.' Indeed, if illegal immigration hurt the profits of the rich, it would be legal to machine gun migrants at the border – in fact, it would then be unconstitutional not to!

Sob Sob Sobbity Sob , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:59 pm GMT
The Obama-Trump continuities you cite are very relevant here. Both heads of state behave as figureheads, knuckling under to permit continued CIA impunity (Obama w.r.t. widespread and systematic torture and murder and aggression, Trump w.r.t. ARCA.) They behave identically in terms of abuse of function and trading in influence, subjecting all regulators to industry control.

The only difference between Obama and Trump is their inside v. outside strategy. Obama was third-generation dynastic CIA nomenklatura, and after his early misstep of promising to obey the supreme law of the land on torture, Obama took CIA direction without demur, up to and including the crime of aggression of TIMBER SYCAMORE. Trump, by contrast, follows the Nixon template, attempting to replace CIA focal points surrounding him with "loyalists." When Nixon did it, CIA cadres leveled the same charge. But Nixon put Schlesinger in as DCI to extract the crown jewels and shitcan a bunch of the worst criminals. Carter took the outsider's path too.

Nixon was purged in the CIA's bloodless Watergate coup; Carter was ousted by CIA's October Surprise. We should consider whether COVID-19 collateral damage will be used to discredit Trump, who evidently has less workplace discretion than a McDonald's fry cook. At a key juncture of the outbreak CIA frogmarched Trump through the synthetic crisis of the Soleimani assassination.

So of course the government is criminal. It was chartered as a criminal enterprise at inception in Sction 202, 73 years ago. In the resulting kleptocracy, IGs perform a superfluous function. And every CIA inspector general is paid specifically to be a criminal scumbag. The IG reviewing CIA's most open-and-shut crime against humanity, its torture gulag, criticized it because it didn't work, intently ignoring the supreme law of the land that says nothing justifies torture.

So let's not get all verklempt about some IGs. IGs are nothing but a Gehlen-type apparat generating legal pretexts for manifestly illegal acts. Fuck em if they can't take a joke.

[Apr 21, 2020] A Government Against the People by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... To be sure, Trump has good reason to hate the intelligence and national security community, which utterly rejected his candidacy and plotted to destroy both his campaign and, even after he was elected, his presidency ..."
"... While it is not unusual for presidents to surround themselves with devoted yes-men, as Trump does with his spectacularly unqualified son-in-law Jared Kushner, his administration is nevertheless unusual in its tendency to apply an absolute loyalty litmus test to nearly everyone surrounding the president ..."
"... Most damaging to consumer interests, the rot has also affected the so-called regulatory agencies that are supposed to monitor the potentially illegal activities of corporations and industries to protect the public. As University of Chicago economist George Stigler several times predicted, under both Obama and Trump advocates of ostensibly "regulated" corporations have taken over every U.S. federal regulatory agency . The captured U.S. government regulators now represent the interests of the corporations, not the public. This is more like government by a criminal oligarchy rather than of, by and for The People. ..."
Apr 21, 2020 | www.unz.com

The 24/7 intensified media coverage of the coronavirus story has meant that other news has either been ignored or relegated to the back pages, never to be seen again. The Middle East has been on a boil but coverage of the Trump administration's latest moves against Iran has been so insignificant as to be invisible. Meanwhile closer to home, the declaration by the ubiquitous Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that current president of Venezuela Nicolas Maduro is a drug trafficker did generate somewhat of a ripple, as did dispatch of warships to the Caribbean to intercept the alleged drugs, but that story also died.

Of more interest perhaps is the tale of the continued purge of government officials, referred to as "draining the swamp," by President Donald Trump as it could conceivably have long-term impact on how policy is shaped in Washington. Prior to the virus partial lockdown, some of the impending shakeup within the intelligence community (IC) and Pentagon were commented on in the media, but developments since that time have been less reported, even when several inspectors-general were removed.

To be sure, Trump has good reason to hate the intelligence and national security community, which utterly rejected his candidacy and plotted to destroy both his campaign and, even after he was elected, his presidency. Whether one argues that what took place was due to a "Deep state" or Establishment conspiracy or rather just based on personal ambition by key players, the reality was that a number of top officials seem to have forgotten the oaths they swore to the constitution when it came to Donald Trump.

Be that as it may, beyond the musical chairs that have characterized the senior level appointments in the first three years of the Trump administration, there has been a concerted effort to remove "disloyal" members of the intelligence community, with disloyal generally being the label applied to holdovers from the Bush and Obama administrations. The February appointment of U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard "Ric" Grenell as interim Director of National Intelligence (DNI), a position that he will hold simultaneously with his ambassadorship, has been criticized from all sides due to his inexperience, history of bad judgement and partisanship. The White House is now claiming that he will be replaced by Texas Congressman John Ratcliffe after the interim appointment is completed.

Criticism of Grenell for his clearly evident deficiencies misses the point, however, as he is not in place to do anything constructive. He has already initiated a purge of federal employees in the White House and national security apparatus considered to be insufficiently loyal, an effort which has been supported by National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Many career officers have been sent back to their home agencies while the new appointees are being drawn from the pool of neoconservatives that proliferated in the George W. Bush administration. Admittedly some prominent neocons like Bill Kristol have disqualified themselves for service with the new regime due to their vitriolic criticism of Trump the candidate, but many others have managed to remain politically viable by keeping their mouths shut during the 2016 campaign. To no one's surprise, many of the new employees being brought in are being carefully vetted to make sure that they are passionate supporters of Israel.

While it is not unusual for presidents to surround themselves with devoted yes-men, as Trump does with his spectacularly unqualified son-in-law Jared Kushner, his administration is nevertheless unusual in its tendency to apply an absolute loyalty litmus test to nearly everyone surrounding the president, even several layers down into the administration where employees are frequently apolitical. As the Trump White House has not been renowned for its adroit policies and forward thinking, the loss of expertise will be hardly noticeable, but there will certainly be a reduction in challenges to group think while replacing officials in the law enforcement and inspector general communities will mean that there will be no one in a high enough position to impede or check presidential misbehavior. Instead, high officials will be principally tasked with coming up with rationalizations to excuse what the White House does.

... ... ...

Subsequent to the defenestration of Atkinson, Trump went after another inspector general Glenn Fine, who was principal deputy IG at the Pentagon and had been charged with heading the panel of inspectors that would have oversight responsibility to certify the proper implementation of the $2.2 trillion dollar coronavirus relief package. As has been noted in the media, there was particular concern regarding the lack of transparency regarding the $500 billion Exchange Stabilizing Fund (ESF) that had been set aside to make loans to corporations and other large companies while the really urgently needed Small Business Loan allocation has been failing to work at all except for Israeli companies that have lined up for the loans. The risk that the ESF would become a slush fund for companies favored by the White House was real, and several investigative reports observed that Trump business interests might also directly benefit from the way it was drafted.

Four days after the firing of Atkinson, Fine also was let go to be replaced by the EPA inspector general Sean O'Donnell, who is considered a Trump loyalist. On the previous day the tweeter-in-chief came down on yet another IG, the woman responsible for Health and Human Services Christi Grimm, who had issued a report stating that the her department had found "severe" shortages of virus testing material at hospitals and "widespread" shortages of personal protective equipment (PPE) for healthcare workers. Trump quipped to reporters "Where did he come from, the inspector general. What's his name?"

On the following day, Trump unleashed the tweet machine, asking "Why didn't the I.G., who spent 8 years with the Obama Administration (Did she Report on the failed H1N1 Swine Flu debacle where 17,000 people died?), want to talk to the Admirals, Generals, V.P. & others in charge, before doing her report. Another Fake Dossier!"

A comment about foxes taking over the hen house would not be amiss and one might also note that the swamp is far from drained. A concerted effort is clearly underway to purge anyone from the upper echelons of the U.S. government who in any way contradicts what is coming out of the White House. Inspectors general who are tasked with looking into malfeasance are receiving the message that if they want to stay employed, they have to toe the presidential line, even as it seemingly whimsically changes day by day. And then there is the irony of the heads at major agencies like Environmental Protection now being committed to not enforcing existing environmental regulations at all.

Most damaging to consumer interests, the rot has also affected the so-called regulatory agencies that are supposed to monitor the potentially illegal activities of corporations and industries to protect the public. As University of Chicago economist George Stigler several times predicted, under both Obama and Trump advocates of ostensibly "regulated" corporations have taken over every U.S. federal regulatory agency . The captured U.S. government regulators now represent the interests of the corporations, not the public. This is more like government by a criminal oligarchy rather than of, by and for The People.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


Exile , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:28 am GMT

I yield to no one in my contempt for the fraud-failure of God Emperor Bush III but the author has to be aware that talk of "impeachable" offenses is meaningless in American politics.

There has never been and never will be an impeachment effort that's not primarily political rather than process-motivated. It's an up-or-down vote based on a partisan head-counting and opportunism and public dissatisfaction. All the Article-this-and-that is Magic Paper Talmudry.

Trump is a somewhat rogueish, somewhat rival Don and faction-head in the same criminal (((Commission))) that's been running America for well over a century. He's Jon Gotti to their Carlo Gambino, and his gauche nouveaux-elite style offends the sensibilities of the more snobbish Davoise, but he's just angling for a seat at the table and a cut of the spoils, not a return of power to the people.

Impeachment would serve no purpose but what we've seen so far with Russiagate, etc.. – a sideshow distraction from the real backroom, long-knife action going down, ala the "settling scores" montage in Godfather III.

Getaclue , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:48 am GMT
"To be sure, Trump has good reason to hate the intelligence and national security community, which utterly rejected his candidacy and plotted to destroy both his campaign and, even after he was elected, his presidency." -- Yes to this. This is OBVIOUS to all but the dullest rubes or those who are in on it and trying to escape what they tried to do in attempting to over throw the US Government. The rest?

Once you have this stated– that an actual Coup which was certainly plotted/sprung by the last occupant of the Presidency along with Clinton, Brennan, Comey, and many other NWO Globalists throughout the Government (FBI, CIA, DOJ ) and outside of it (the Globalist NWO MEDIA) the rest is drivel -- they tried to take him out–JFK they used a bullet, here not yet– so to say he shouldn't put in people he absolutely trusts at this time into any position he can? Are you kidding or what? You can't be serious– I've actually had someone try and kill me they were quite serious about it– my reaction after was not anything like what I see you suggesting or mirrored in your "analysis". This is how the CIA "counsels" in response to a murderous Coup -- an attempt to overthrow the duly elected Government?

How do you overreact to a group of the most powerful people in the World getting together to try to murder you? That's your argument basically– he's over reacting to that? He shouldn't have "Loyalists". He needs to work with these other people -- the ones who want to murder him -- keep some of those "non-Loyalists" on board who time after time have plotted against him in every way possible during the last nearly 4 years?

You seem to be one strange dude from my life's vantage point any way, what a perspective .Maybe you would actually deal with people of this magnitude trying to destroy you in the way you state but no sane/fairly intelligent person would -- I can't get past you have that sentence in there and then follow it with all the rest -- you seem to live in some alternate reality where when someone tries to murder you the right reaction is to blow it off and work with them– give them another few shots at you– say what? You learned this from your years at the CIA– this is how they train/advise things like this should be dealt with up at Langley? Or is it just wishful thinking on your part that they get another shot at him?

mark green , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:33 am GMT

While it is not unusual for presidents to surround themselves with devoted yes-men, as Trump does with his spectacularly unqualified son-in-law Jared Kushner, his administration is nevertheless unusual in its tendency to apply an absolute loyalty litmus test to nearly everyone surrounding the president

True enough. Trump has also injected into Washington his own nest of swamp creatures and Wall St. bigwigs. However it is also true that Trump has been under unrelenting attack since the day he announced his candidacy. This is not fair. With the possible exception of Nixon, I've never seen a more ruthless campaign by political insiders to demean a public figure.

But to whom must Trump show ceaseless and attentive loyalty to?–no matter what?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-days-remembrance-victims-holocaust-2020/

chris , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:51 am GMT
@onebornfree Absolutely!

I can't get too worked up about the firing of the prison guards; I rather enjoy the charade.

The real problem is that: 'It's the system, stupid!' and no amount of tinkering or puting the 'right' people in these positions will ever do anything more than just changing the illusion that something is being done.

It reminds me a little of that late Soviet Union film "Burned by the Sun" about Stalin's purges of the criminals that had ridden his coat tails to power. Try as the movie makers did, I could not and would not feel an ounce of sorrow for those (these) scumbags who had wielded immoral, arbitrary, and disproportionate power over their subjects.

gotmituns , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:17 am GMT
The government has been against the people for my entire lifetime (I'm an old man now). One of the only glimmers of light in that time, JFK was snuffed out. After all, who did he think he was, trying to stop the elites from having their war in Vietnam?
Z-man , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:24 am GMT
He (Trump) should have purged all of the Obama appointees on day one.
The Vindman twins are a perfect example of the Deep State.
While I can understand your loathing of Trump's middle East policies, I do also, what he has blatantley done vis a vis the Zionist Entity is very little different than what slick Obama did under the table, outside of the Iran deal.
And to tell you the truth, as much as I loathe Israel the Iran deal was definitely flawed and should have been more advantageous to America and the West. Iran should have seen the advantages of totally relinquishing nuclear weapons even with mad Zionists in their neighborhood. They could have still kept their ballistic missiles, sans nuclear tips.
Realist , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:31 am GMT
@Getaclue The idea that Trump is fighting the Deep State is ludacris this is a charade if the Deep State didn't want Trump to be President he wouldn't be. Trump is a Deep State minion. No matter the existential threat to the US the 1% get richer and the 99% get poorer.
Realist , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:40 am GMT
@Z-man

He (Trump) should have purged all of the Obama appointees on day one.

That supposes that Trump is not a Deep Stater as was Obama this is a poor supposition.

Iran should have seen the advantages of totally relinquishing nuclear weapons even with mad Zionists in their neighborhood. They could have still kept their ballistic missiles, sans nuclear tips.

Ballistic missiles, sans nuclear tips are useless. Did anybody care when North Korea had ballistic missiles before they had something worthwhile to put on the tip? Hell no.

fatmanscoop , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:29 pm GMT
Trump has had two open coup attempts in three years, and a constant barrage of leaks etc. His purges are clearly at least three years too late.

Also, to an outsider, it's strange how some right-wing American journalists write in a way which indicates that they have faith in the due process, checks-and-balances etc afforded by the American system. I don't understand how any American right-winger could maintain their faith in the U.S. political system, it seems corrupt approaching the point that it is beyond-repair.

A123 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:51 pm GMT
Barack Hussein was Against The People

Trump's MAGA For The People efforts, must take steps to undo the damage done by the prior criminal admistration.

Here is an detailed explanation of how Barack Hussein intentionally undermined the rule of law:(1)

Aside from the date the important part of the first page is the motive for sending it. The DOJ is telling the court in July 2018: based on what they know the FISA application still contains "sufficient predication for the Court to have found probable cause" to approve the application. The DOJ is defending the Carter Page FISA application as still valid.

However, it is within the justification of the application that alarm bells are found. On page six the letter identifies the primary participants behind the FISA redactions:

DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from the fraudulent FISA authority. That's the motive.

In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD had admitted the FISA application and all renewals were fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018 was protecting Mueller's poisoned fruit.

If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there's a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.

I am not sure why Giraldi is defending Barack Hussein and Hillary Clinton's behaviour & staff choices. All rational human beings see the damage that Hillary created at the State Department.

PEACE
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/17/declassified-doj-letter-to-fisa-court-highlights-severe-institutional-corruption-doj-blames-fbi-for-spygate/

[Apr 21, 2020] American Pravda Our Coronavirus Catastrophe as Biowarfare Blowback by Ron Unz

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Nearly 30,000 Americans have died from the coronavirus during the last two weeks, and by some estimates this is a substantial under-count, while the death-toll continues to rapidly mount. Meanwhile, measures to control the spread of this deadly infection have already cost 22 million Americans their jobs, an unprecedented economic collapse that has pushed our unemployment rates to Great Depression levels. Our country is facing a crisis as grave as almost any in our national history.

For many weeks President Trump and his political allies had regularly dismissed or minimized this terrible health threat, and suddenly now faced with such a manifest disaster, they have naturally begun seeking other culprits to blame.

The obvious choice is China, where the global epidemic first began in late 2019. Over the last week or two our media has been increasingly filled with accusations that the dishonesty and incompetence of the Chinese government played a major role in producing our own health catastrophe.

Even more serious charges are also being raised, with senior government officials informing the media that they suspect that the Covid-19 virus was developed in a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan and then carelessly released upon a vulnerable world. Such "conspiracy theories" were once confined to the extreme political fringe of the Internet, but they are now found in the respectable pages of my morning New York Times and Wall Street Journal.

Whether plausible or not, such accusations carry the gravest international implications, and there are growing demands that China financially compensate our country for its trillions of dollars in economic losses. A new global Cold War along both political and economic lines may soon be at hand.

I have no personal expertise in biowarfare technology, nor access to the secret American intelligence reports that seem to have been taken seriously by our most elite national newspapers. But I do think that a careful exploration of previous Sino-American clashes over the last couple of decades may provide some useful insight into the relative credibility of those two governments as well as that of our own media.

During the late 1990s, America seemed to reach the peak of its global power and prosperity, basking in the aftermath of its historic victory in the long Cold War, while ordinary Americans greatly benefited from the record-long economic expansion of that decade. A huge Tech Boom was at its height, and Islamic terrorism seemed a vague and distant thing, almost entirely confined to Hollywood movies. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the possibility of large scale war seemed to have dissipated so political leaders boasted of the "peace dividend" that citizens were starting to enjoy as our huge military forces, built up over nearly a half-century, were downsized amid sweeping cuts in the bloated defense budget. America was finally returning to a regular peacetime economy, with the benefits apparent to everyone.

At the time, I was overwhelmingly focused on domestic political issues, so I only paid slight attention to our one small military operation of that period, the 1999 NATO air war against Serbia, intended to safeguard the Kosovo Albanians from ethnic cleansing and massacre, a Clinton Administration project that I fully endorsed.

Although our limited bombing campaign seemed quite successful and soon forced the Serbs to the bargaining table, the short war did include one very embarrassing mishap. The use of old maps had led to a targeting error that caused one of our smart bombs to accidentally strike the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, killing three members of its delegation and wounding dozens more. The Chinese were outraged by this incident, and their propaganda organs began claiming that the attack had been deliberate, a reckless accusation that obviously made no logical sense.

In those days I watched the PBS Newshour every night, and was I shocked to see their U.S. Ambassador raise those absurd charges with host Jim Lehrer, whose disbelief matched my own. But when I considered that the Chinese government was still stubbornly denying the reality of its massacre of the protesting students in Tiananmen Square a decade earlier, I concluded that unreasonable behavior by PRC officials was only to be expected. Indeed, there was even some speculation that China was cynically milking the unfortunate accident for domestic reasons, hoping to stoke the sort of jingoist anti-Americanism among the Chinese people that would finally help bind the social wounds of that 1989 outrage.

Such at least were my thoughts on that matter more than two decades ago. But in the years that followed, my understanding of the world and of many pivotal events of modern history underwent the sweeping transformations that I have described in my American Pravda series . And some of my 1990s assumptions were among them.

Consider, for example, the Tiananmen Square Massacre, which every June 6th still evokes an annual wave of harsh condemnations in the news and opinion pages of our leading national newspapers. I had never originally doubted those facts, but a year or two ago I happened to come across a short article by journalist Jay Matthews entitled "The Myth of Tiananmen" that completely upended that apparent reality.

According to Matthews the infamous massacre had likely never happened, but was merely a media artifact produced by confused Western reporters and dishonest propaganda, a mistaken belief that had quickly become embedded in our standard media storyline, endlessly repeated by so many ignorant journalists that they all eventually believed it to be true. Instead, as near as could be determined, the protesting students had all left Tiananmen Square peacefully, just as the Chinese government had always maintained. Indeed, leading newspapers such as the New York Times and the Washington Post had occasionally acknowledged these facts over the years, but usually buried those scanty admissions so deep in their stories that few ever noticed. Meanwhile, the bulk of the mainstream media had fallen for an apparent hoax.

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Matthews himself had been the Beijing Bureau Chief of the Washington Post , personally covering the protests at the time, and his article appeared in the Columbia Journalism Review , our most prestigious venue for media criticism. This authoritative analysis containing such explosive conclusions was first published in 1998, and I find it difficult to believe that many reporters or editors covering China have remained ignorant of this information, yet the impact has been absolutely nil. For over twenty years virtually every mainstream media account I have read has continued to promote the Tiananmen Square Massacre Hoax, usually implicitly but sometimes explicitly.

Even more remarkable were the discoveries I made regarding our supposedly accidental bombing of the Chinese Embassy in 1999. Not long after launching this website, I added former Asia Times contributor Peter Lee as a columnist, incorporating his China Matters blogsite archives that stretched back for a decade. He soon published a 7,000 word article on the Belgrade Embassy bombing, representing a compilation of material already contained in a half-dozen previous pieces he'd written on that subject from 2007 onward. To my considerable surprise, he provided a great deal of persuasive evidence that the American attack on the Chinese embassy had indeed been deliberate, just as China had always claimed.

According to Lee, Beijing had allowed its embassy to be used as a site for secure radio transmission facilities by the Serbian military, whose own communications network was a primary target of NATO airstrikes. Meanwhile, Serbian air defenses had shot down an advanced American F-117A fighter, whose top-secret stealth technology was a crucial U.S. military secret. Portions of that enormously valuable wreckage were carefully gathered by the grateful Serbs, who delivered it to the Chinese for temporary storage at their embassy prior to transport back home. This vital technological acquisition later allowed China to deploy its own J20 stealth fighter in early 2011, many years sooner than American military analysts had believed possible.

Based upon this analysis, Lee argued that the Chinese embassy was attacked in order to destroy the Serbian retransmission facilities located there, while punishing the Chinese for allowing such use. There were also widespread rumors in China that another motive had been an unsuccessful attempt to destroy the stealth debris stored within. Later Congressional testimony revealed that the among all the hundreds of NATO airstrikes, the attack on the Chinese embassy was the only one directly ordered by the CIA, a highly-suspicious detail.

I was only slightly familiar with Lee's work, and under normal circumstances I would have been very cautious in accepting his remarkable claims against the contrary position universally held by all our own elite media outlets. But the sources he cited completely shifted that balance.

Although the American media dominates the English-language world, many British publications also possess a strong global reputation, and since they are often much less in thrall to our own national security state, they have sometimes covered important stories that were ignored here. And in this case, the Sunday Observer published a remarkable expose in October 1999, citing several NATO military and intelligence sources who fully confirmed the deliberate nature of the American bombing of the Chinese embassy, with a US colonel even reportedly boasting that their smartbomb had hit the exact room intended.

This important story was immediately summarized in the Guardian , a sister publication, and also covered by the rival Times of London and many of the world's other most prestigious publications, but encountered an absolute wall of silence in our own country. Such a bizarre divergence on a story of global strategic importance -- a deliberate and deadly US attack against Chinese diplomatic territory -- drew the attention of FAIR, a leading American media watchdog group, which published an initial critique and a subsequent follow-up . These two pieces totaled some 3,000 words, and effectively summarized both the overwhelming evidence of the facts and also the heavy international coverage, while reporting the weak excuses made by top American editors to explain their continuing silence. Based upon these articles, I consider the matter settled.

Few Americans remember our 1999 attack upon the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, and if not for the annual waving of a bloody June 6th flag by our ignorant and disingenuous media, the "Tiananmen Square Massacre" would also have long since faded from memory. Neither of these events has much direct importance today, at least for our own citizens. But the broader media implications of these examples do seem quite significant.

These incidents represented two of the most serious flashpoints between the Chinese and American governments during the last thirty-odd years. In both cases the claims of the Chinese government were entirely correct, although they were denied by our own top political leaders and dismissed or ridiculed by virtually our entire mainstream media. Moreover, within a few months or a year the true facts became known to many journalists, even being reported in fully respectable venues. But that reality was still completely ignored and suppressed for decades, so that today almost no American whose information comes from our regular media would even be aware of it. Indeed, since many younger journalists draw their knowledge of the world from these same elite media sources, I suspect that many of them have never learned what their predecessors knew but dared not mention.

Most leading Chinese media outlets are owned or controlled by the Chinese government, and they tend to broadly follow the government line. Leading American media outlets have a corporate ownership structure and often boast of their fierce independence; but on many crucial matters, I think the actual reality is not so very different from that in China.

I tend to doubt that Chinese leaders have any overwhelming commitment to the truth, and the reasons for their greater veracity are probably practical ones. American news and entertainment completely dominate the global media landscape and they face no significant domestic rival. So China recognizes that it is vastly outmatched in any propaganda conflict, and as the far weaker party must necessarily try to stick closer to the truth, lest its lies be immediately exposed. Meanwhile, America's overwhelming control over global information may inspire considerable hubris, with the government sometimes promoting the most outrageous and ridiculous falsehoods in the confident belief that a supportive American media will cover for any mistakes.

These considerations should be kept in mind as we attempt to sift the accounts of our often unreliable and dishonest media in hopes of extracting the true circumstances of the current coronavirus epidemic. Unlike careful historical studies, we are working in real-time and our analysis is greatly hindered by the ongoing fog of war, so that any conclusions are necessarily very preliminary ones. But given the high stakes, such an attempt seems warranted.

When my morning newspapers first began mentioning the appearance of a mysterious new illness in China during mid-January, I paid little attention, absorbed as I was in the aftermath of our sudden assassination of Iran's top military leader and the dangerous possibility of a yet another Middle Eastern war. But the reports persisted and grew, with deaths occurring and evidence growing that the viral disease could be transmitted between humans. China's early conventional efforts seemed unsuccessful in halting the spread of the disease.

Then on Jan. 23rd and after only 17 deaths, the Chinese government took the astonishing step of locking down and quarantining the entire 11 million inhabitants of the city of Wuhan, a story that drew worldwide attention. They soon extended this policy to the 60 million Chinese of Hubei province, and not longer afterward shut down their entire national economy and confined 700 million Chinese to their homes, a public health measure probably a thousand times larger than anything previously undertaken in human history. So either the China's leadership had suddenly gone insane, or they regarded this new virus as an absolutely deadly national threat, one that needed to be controlled at any possible cost.

Given these dramatic Chinese actions and the international headlines that they generated, the current accusations by Trump Administration officials that China had attempted to minimize or conceal the serious nature of the disease outbreak is so ludicrous as to defy rationality. In any event, the record shows that on December 31st, the Chinese had already alerted the World Health Organization to the strange new illness, and Chinese scientists published the entire genome of the virus on Jan. 12th, allowing diagnostic tests to be produced worldwide.

Unlike other nations, China had received no advance warning of the nature or existence of the deadly new disease, and therefore faced unique obstacles. But their government implemented public health control measures unprecedented in the history of the world and managed to almost completely eradicate the disease with merely the loss of a few thousand lives. Meanwhile, many other Western countries such as the US, Italy, Spain, France, and Britain dawdled for months and ignored the potential threat, and have now suffered well over 100,000 dead as a consequence, with the toll still rapidly mounting. For any of these nations or their media organs to criticize China for its ineffectiveness or slow response represents an absolute inversion of reality.

Some governments took full advantage of the early warning and scientific information provided by China. Although nearby East Asian nations such as South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Singapore had been at greatest risk and were among the first infected, their competent and energetic responses allowed them to almost completely suppress any major outbreak, and they have suffered minimal fatalities. But America and several European countries avoiding adopting these same early measures such as widespread testing, quarantine, and contact-tracing, and have paid a terrible price for their insouciance.

A few weeks ago British Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that his own disease strategy for Britain was based upon rapidly achieving "herd immunity" -- essentially encouraging the bulk of his citizens to become infected -- then quickly backed away after his desperate advisors recognized that the result might entail a million or more British deaths.

By any reasonable measure, the response to this global health crisis by China and most East Asian countries has been absolutely exemplary, while that of many Western countries has been equally disastrous. Maintaining reasonable public health has been a basic function of governments since the days of the city-states of Sumeria, and the sheer and total incompetence of America and most of its European vassals has been breathtaking. If the Western media attempts to pretend otherwise, it will permanently forfeit whatever remaining international credibility it still possesses.

I do not think these particular facts are much disputed except among the most blinkered partisans, and the Trump Administration probably recognizes the hopelessness of arguing otherwise. This probably explains its recent shift towards a far more explosive and controversial narrative, namely claiming that Covid-19 may have been the product of Chinese research into deadly viruses at a Wuhan laboratory, which suggests that the blood of hundreds of thousands or millions of victims around the world will be on Chinese hands. Dramatic accusations backed by overwhelming international media power may deeply resonate across the globe.

News reports appearing in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times have been reasonably consistent. Senior Trump Administration officials have pointed to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a leading Chinese biolab, as the possible source of the infection, with the deadly virus having been accidentally released, subsequently spreading first throughout China and later worldwide. Trump himself has publicly voiced similar suspicions, as did Secretary of State and former CIA Director Mike Pompeo in a FoxNews interview. Private lawsuits against China in the multi-trillion-dollar range have already been filed by rightwing activists and Republican senators Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham have raised similar governmental demands.

I obviously have no personal access to the classified intelligence reports that have been the basis of these charges by Trump, Pompeo, and other top administration officials. But in reading these recent news accounts, I noticed something rather odd.

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Back in January, few Americans were paying much attention to the early reports of an unusual disease outbreak in the Chinese city of Wuhan, which was hardly a household name. Instead, overwhelming political attention was focused on the battle over Trump's impeachment and the aftermath of our dangerous military confrontation with Iran. But towards the end of that month, I discovered that the fringes of the Internet were awash with claims that the disease was caused by a Chinese bioweapon accidentally released from that same Wuhan laboratory, with former Trump advisor Steve Bannon and ZeroHedge , a popular right-wing conspiracy-website, playing leading roles in advancing the theory. Indeed, the stories became so widespread in those ideological circles that Sen. Tom Cotton, a leading Republican Neocon, began promoting them on Twitter and FoxNews, thereby provoking an article in the NYT on those "fringe conspiracy theories."

I suspect that it may be more than purely coincidental that the biowarfare theories which erupted in such concerted fashion on small political websites and Social Media accounts back in January so closely match those now publicly advocated by top Trump Administration officials and supposedly based upon our most secure intelligence sources. Perhaps a few intrepid citizen-activists managed to replicate the findings of our multi-billion-dollar intelligence apparatus, and did so in days while the latter required weeks or months. But a more likely scenario is that the wave of January speculation was driven by private leaks and "guidance" provided by exactly the same elements that today are very publicly leveling similar charges in the elite media. Initially promoting controversial theories in less mainstream outlets has long been a fairly standard intelligence practice.

Regardless of the origins of the idea, does it seem plausible that the coronavirus outbreak might have originated as an accidental leak from that Chinese laboratory? I am not privy to the security procedures of Chinese government facilities, but applying a little common sense may shed some light on that question.

Although the coronavirus is only moderately lethal, apparently having a fatality rate of 1% or less, it is extremely contagious, including during an extended pre-symptomatic period and also among asymptomatic carriers. Thus, portions of the US and Europe are now suffering heavy casualties, while the policies adopted to control the spread have devastated their national economies. Although the virus is unlikely to kill more than a small sliver of our population, we have seen to our dismay how a major outbreak can so easily wreck our entire economic life.

During January, the journalists reporting on China's mushrooming health crisis regularly emphasized that the mysterious new viral outbreak had occurred at the worst possible place and time, appearing in the major transport hub of Wuhan just prior to the Lunar New Year holiday, when hundreds of millions of Chinese would normally travel to their distant family homes for the celebration, thereby potentially spreading the disease to all parts of the country and producing a permanent, uncontrollable epidemic. The Chinese government avoided that grim fate by the unprecedented decision to shut down its entire national economy and confine 700 million Chinese to their own homes for many weeks. But the outcome seems to have been a very near thing, and if Wuhan had remained open for just a few days longer, China might easily have suffered long-term economic and social devastation.

The timing of an accidental laboratory release would obviously be entirely random. Yet the outbreak seems to have begun during the precise period of time most likely to damage China, the worst possible ten-day or perhaps thirty-day window. As I noted in January, I saw no solid evidence that the coronavirus was a bioweapon, but if it were, the timing of the release seemed very unlikely to have been accidental.

If the virus was released intentionally, the context and motive for such a biowarfare attack against China could not be more obvious. Although our disingenuous media continues to pretend otherwise, the size of China's economy surpassed that of our own several years ago, and has continued to grow much more rapidly. Chinese companies have also taken the lead in several crucial technologies, with Huawei becoming the world's leading telecommunications equipment manufacturer and dominating the important 5G market. China's sweeping Belt and Road Initiative has threatened to reorient global trade around an interconnected Eurasian landmass, greatly diminishing the leverage of America's own control over the seas. I have closely followed China for over forty years, and the trend-lines have never been more apparent. Back in 2012, I published an article bearing the provocative title "China's Rise, America's Fall?" and since then I have seen no reason to reassess my verdict.

China's Rise, America's Fall Which superpower is more threatened by its "extractive elites"? Ron UnzThe American Conservative, April 17, 2012 • 7,000 Words

For three generations following the end of World War II, America had stood as the world's supreme economic and technological power, while the collapse of the Soviet Union thirty years ago left us as the sole remaining superpower, facing no conceivable military rival. A growing sense that we were rapidly losing that unchallenged position had certainly inspired the anti-China rhetoric of many senior figures in the Trump Administration, who launched a major trade war soon after coming into office. The increasing misery and growing impoverishment of large sections of the American population naturally left these voters searching for a convenient scapegoat, and the prosperous, rising Chinese made a perfect target.

Despite America's growing economic conflict with China over the last couple of years, I had never considered the possibility that matters might take a military turn. The Chinese had long ago deployed advanced intermediate range missiles that many believed could easily sink our carriers in the region, and they had also generally improved their conventional military deterrent. Moreover, China was on quite good terms with Russia, which itself had been the target of intense American hostility for several years; and Russia's new suite of revolutionary hypersonic missiles had drastically reduced any American strategic advantage. Thus, a conventional war against China seemed an absolutely hopeless undertaking, while China's outstanding businessmen and engineers were steadily gaining ground against America's decaying and heavily-financialized economic system.

Under these difficult circumstances, an American biowarfare attack against China might have seemed the only remaining card to play in hopes of maintaining American supremacy. Plausible deniability would minimize the risk of any direct Chinese retaliation, and if successful, the terrible blow inflicted to China's economy would set it back for many years, perhaps even destabilizing its social and political system. Using alternative media to immediately promote theories that the coronavirus outbreak was the result of a leak from a Chinese biowarfare lab was a natural means of preempting any later Chinese accusations along similar lines, thereby allowing America to win the international propaganda war before China had even begun to play.

A decision by elements of our national security establishment to wage biological warfare in hopes of maintaining American world power would certainly have been an extremely reckless act, but extreme recklessness has become a regular aspect of American behavior since 2001, especially under the Trump Administration. Just a year earlier we had kidnapped the daughter of Huawei's founder and chairman, who also served as CFO and ranked as one of China's most top executives, while at the beginning of January we suddenly assassinated Iran's top military leader.

These were the thoughts that entered my mind during the last week of January once I discovered the widely circulating theories suggesting that China's massive disease epidemic had been the self-inflicted consequence of its own biowarfare research. I saw no solid evidence that the coronavirus was a bioweapon, but if it were, China was surely the innocent victim of the attack, presumably carried out by elements of the American national security establishment.

Soon afterward, someone brought to my attention a very long article by an American ex-pat living in China who called himself "Metallicman" and held a wide range of eccentric and implausible beliefs. I have long recognized that flawed individuals can often serve as the vessels of important information otherwise unavailable, and this case constituted a perfect example. His piece denounced the outbreak as a likely American biowarfare attack, and provided a great wealth of factual material I had not previously considered. Since he authorized republication elsewhere I did so, and his 15,000 word analysis , although somewhat raw and unpolished, began attracting an enormous amount of readership on our website, probably being one of the very first English-language pieces to suggest that the mysterious new disease was an American bioweapon. Many of his arguments appeared doubtful to me or have been obviated by later developments, but several seemed quite telling.

He pointed out that during the previous two years, the Chinese economy had already suffered serious blows from other mysterious new diseases, although these had targeted farm animals rather than people. During 2018 a new Avian Flu virus had swept the country, eliminating large portions of China's poultry industry, and during 2019 the Swine Flu viral epidemic had devastated China's pig farms, destroying 40% of the nation's primary domestic source of meat, with widespread claims that the latter disease was being spread by mysterious small drones. My morning newspapers had hardly ignored these important business stories, noting that the sudden collapse of much of China's domestic food production might prove a huge boon to American farm exports at the height of our trade conflict, but I had never considered the obvious implications. So for three years in a row, China had been severely impacted by strange new viral diseases, though only the most recent had been deadly to humans. This evidence was merely circumstantial, but the pattern seemed highly suspicious.

The writer also noted that shortly before the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, that city had hosted 300 visiting American military officers, who came to participate in the 2019 Military World Games , an absolutely remarkable coincidence of timing. As I pointed out at the time, how would Americans react if 300 Chinese military officers had paid an extended visit to Chicago, and soon afterward a mysterious and deadly epidemic had suddenly broken out in that city? Once again, the evidence was merely circumstantial but certainly raised dark suspicions.

Scientific investigation of the coronavirus had already pointed to its origins in a bat virus, leading to widespread media speculation that bats sold as food in the Wuhan open markets had been the original disease vector. Meanwhile, the orchestrated waves of anti-China accusations had emphasized Chinese laboratory research on that same viral source. But we soon published a lengthy article by investigative journalist Whitney Webb providing copious evidence of America's own enormous biowarfare research efforts, which had similarly focused for years on bat viruses. Webb was then associated with MintPress News , but that publication had strangely declined to publish her important piece, perhaps skittish about the grave suspicions it directed towards the US government on so momentous an issue. So without the benefit of our platform, her major contribution to the public debate might have attracted relatively little readership.

Around the same time, I noted another extremely strange coincidence that failed to attract any interest from our somnolent national media. Although his name had meant nothing to me, in late January my morning newspapers carried major stories on the sudden arrest of Prof. Charles Lieber, one of Harvard University's top scientists and Chairman of its Chemistry Department, sometimes characterized as a potential future Nobel Laureate.

The circumstances of that case seemed utterly bizarre to me. Like numerous other prominent American academics, Lieber had had decades of close research ties with China, holding joint appointments and receiving substantial funding for his work. But now he was accused of financial reporting violations in the disclosure portions of his government grant applications -- the most obscure sort of offense -- and on the basis of those accusations, he was seized by the FBI in an early-morning raid on his suburban Lexington home and dragged off in shackles, potentially facing years of federal imprisonment.

Such government action against an academic seemed almost without precedent. During the height of the Cold War, numerous American scientists and technicians were rightfully accused of having stolen our nuclear weapons secrets for delivery to Stalin, yet I had never heard of any of them treated in so harsh a manner, let alone a scholar of Prof. Lieber's stature, who was merely charged with technical disclosure violations. Indeed, this incident recalled accounts of NKVD raids during the Soviet purges of the 1930s.

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Although Lieber was described as a chemistry professor, a few seconds of Googling revealed that some of his most important work had been in virology, including technology for the detection of viruses. So a massive and deadly new viral epidemic had broken out in China and almost simultaneously, a top American scholar with close Chinese ties and expertise in viruses was suddenly arrested by the federal government, yet no one in the media expressed any curiosity at a possible connection between these two events.

I think we can safely assume that Lieber's arrest by the FBI had been prompted by the concurrent coronavirus epidemic, but anything more is mere speculation. Those now accusing China of having created the coronavirus might surely suggest that our intelligence agencies discovered that the Harvard professor had been personally involved with that deadly research. But I think a far more likely possibility is that Lieber began to wonder whether the epidemic in China might not be the result of an American biowarfare attack, and was perhaps a little too free in voicing his suspicions, thereby drawing the wrath of our national security establishment. Inflicting such extremely harsh treatment upon a top Harvard scientist would greatly intimidate all of his lesser colleagues elsewhere, who would surely now think twice before broaching certain controversial theories to any journalist.

By the end of January, our webzine had published a dozen articles and posts on the coronavirus outbreak, then added many more by the middle of February. These pieces totaled tens of thousands of words and attracted a half million words of comments, probably representing the primary English-language source for a particular perspective on the deadly epidemic, with this material eventually drawing many hundreds of thousands of pageviews. A few weeks later, the Chinese government began gingerly raising the possibility that the coronavirus may have been brought to Wuhan by the 300 American military officers visiting that city, and was fiercely attacked by the Trump Administration for spreading anti-American propaganda. But I strongly suspect that the Chinese had gotten that idea from our own publication.

As the coronavirus gradually began to spread beyond China's own borders, another development occurred that greatly multiplied my suspicions. Most of these early cases had occurred exactly where one might expect, among the East Asian countries bordering China. But by late February Iran had become the second epicenter of the global outbreak. Even more surprisingly, its political elites had been especially hard-hit, with a full 10% of the entire Iranian parliament soon infected and at least a dozen of its officials and politicians dying of the disease, including some who were quite senior . Indeed, Neocon activists on Twitter began gleefully noting that their hatred Iranian enemies were now dropping like flies.

Let us consider the implications of these facts. Across the entire world the only political elites that have yet suffered any significant human losses have been those of Iran, and they died at a very early stage, before significant outbreaks had even occurred almost anywhere else in the world outside China. Thus, we have America assassinating Iran's top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iranian ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?

Biological warfare is a highly technical subject, and those possessing such expertise are unlikely to candidly report their classified research activities in the pages of our major newspapers, perhaps even less so after Prof. Lieber was dragged off to prison in chains. My own knowledge is nil. But in mid-March I came across several extremely long and detailed comments on the coronavirus outbreak that had been posted on a small website by an individual calling himself "OldMicrobiologist" and who claimed to be a retired forty-year veteran of American biodefense. The style and details of his material struck me as quite credible, and after a little further investigation I concluded that there was a high likelihood his background was exactly as he had described. I made arrangements to republish his comments in the form of a 3,400 word article , which soon attracted a great deal of traffic and 80,000 words of further comments.

Although the writer emphasized the lack of any hard evidence, he said that his experience led him to strongly suspect that the coronavirus outbreak was indeed an American biowarfare attack against China, probably carried out by agents brought into that country under cover of the Military Games held at Wuhan in late October, the sort of sabotage operation our intelligence agencies had sometimes undertaken elsewhere. One important point he made was that high lethality was often counter-productive in a bioweapon since debilitating or hospitalizing large numbers of individuals may impose far greater economic costs on a country than a biological agent which simply inflicts an equal number of deaths. In his words "a high communicability, low lethality disease is perfect for ruining an economy," suggesting that the apparent characteristics of the coronavirus were close to optimal in this regard. Those so interested should read his analysis and judge for themselves his possible credibility and persuasiveness.

Was coronavirus a Biowarfare Attack Against China? OldMicrobiologist • March 13, 2020 • 3,400 Words

One intriguing aspect of the situation was that almost from the first moment that reports of the strange new epidemic in China reached the international media, a large and orchestrated campaign had been launched on numerous websites and Social Media platforms to identify the cause as a Chinese bioweapon carelessly released in its own country. Meanwhile, the far more plausible hypothesis that China was the victim rather than the perpetrator had received virtually no organized support anywhere, and only began to take shape as I gradually located and republished relevant material, usually drawn from very obscure quarters and often anonymously authored. So it seemed that only the side hostile to China was waging an active information war. The outbreak of the disease and the nearly simultaneous launch of such a major propaganda campaign may not necessarily prove that an actual biowarfare attack had occurred, but I do think it tends to support such a theory.

When considering the hypothesis of an American biowarfare attack, certain natural objections come to mind. The major drawback to biological warfare has always been the obvious fact that the self-replicating agents employed will not respect national borders, thus raising the serious risk that the disease might eventually return to the land of its origin and inflict substantial casualties. For this reason, it seems very doubtful that any rational and half-competent American leadership would have unleashed the coronavirus against China.

But as we see absolutely demonstrated in our daily news headlines, America's current government is grotesquely and manifestly incompetent , more incompetent than one could almost possibly imagine, with tens of thousands of Americans having now already paid with their lives for such extreme incompetence. Rationality and competence are obviously nowhere to be found among the Deep State Neocons that President Donald Trump has appointed to so many crucial positions throughout our national security apparatus.

Moreover, the extremely lackadaisical notion that a massive coronavirus outbreak in China would never spread back to America might have seemed plausible to individuals who carelessly assumed that past historical analogies would continue to apply. As I wrote a few weeks ago:

Reasonable people have suggested that if the coronavirus was a bioweapon deployed by elements of the American national security apparatus against China (and Iran), it's difficult to imagine why the they didn't assume it would naturally leak back in the US and start a huge pandemic here, as is currently happening.

The most obvious answer is that they were stupid and incompetent, but here's another point to consider

In late 2002 there was the outbreak of SARS in China, a related virus but that was far more deadly and somewhat different in other characteristics. The virus killed hundreds of Chinese and spread into a few other countries before it was controlled and stamped out. The impact on the US and Europe was negligible, with just a small scattering of cases and only a death or two.

So if American biowarfare analysts were considering a coronavirus attack against China, isn't it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we'd similarly remain insulated from the coronavirus? Obviously, such an analysis was foolish and mistaken, but would it have seemed so implausible at the time?

As some must have surely noticed, I have deliberately avoided investigating any of the scientific details of the coronavirus. In principle, an objective and accurate analysis of the characteristics and structure of the virus might help suggest whether it was entirely natural or rather the product of a research laboratory, and in the latter case, perhaps whether the likely source was China, America, or some third country.

But we are dealing with a cataclysmic world event and those questions obviously have enormous political ramifications, so the entire subject is shrouded by a thick fog of complex propaganda, with numerous conflicting claims being advanced by interested parties. I have no background in microbiology let alone biological warfare, so I would be hopelessly adrift in evaluating such conflicting scientific and technical claims. I suspect that this is equally true of the overwhelming majority of other observers as well, although committed partisans are loathe to admit that fact, and will eagerly seize upon any scientific argument that supports their preferred position while rejecting those that contradict it.

Therefore, by necessity, my own focus is on evidence that can at least be understood by every layman, if not necessarily always accepted. And I believe that the simple juxtaposition of several recent disclosures in the mainstream media leads to a rather telling conclusion.

For obvious reasons, the Trump Administration has become very eager to emphasize the early missteps and delays in the Chinese reaction to the viral outbreak in Wuhan, and has presumably encouraged our media outlets to direct their focus in that direction.

As an example of this, the Associated Press Investigative Unit recently published a rather detailed analysis of those early events purportedly based upon confidential Chinese documents. Provocatively entitled "China Didn't Warn Public of Likely Pandemic for 6 Key Days" , the piece was widely distributed, running in abridged form in the NYT and elsewhere. According to this reconstruction, the Chinese government first became aware of the seriousness of this public health crisis on Jan. 14th, but delayed taking any major action until Jan. 20th, a period of time during which the number of infections greatly multiplied.

Last month, a team of five WSJ reporters produced a very detailed and thorough 4,400 word analysis of the same period, and the NYT has published a helpful timeline of those early events as well. Although there may be some differences of emphasis or minor disagreements, all these American media sources agree that Chinese officials first became aware of the serious viral outbreak in Wuhan in early to mid-January, with the first known death occurring on Jan. 11th, and finally implemented major new public health measures later that same month. No one has apparently disputed these basic facts.

But with the horrific consequences of our own later governmental inaction being obvious, sources within our intelligence agencies have sought to demonstrate that they were not the ones asleep at the switch. Earlier this month, an ABC News story cited four separate government sources to reveal that as far back as late November, a special medical intelligence unit within our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a report revealing than an out-of-control disease epidemic was occurring in the Wuhan area of China, and widely distributed that document throughout the top ranks of our government, warning that steps should be taken to protect US forces based in Asia. After the story aired, a Pentagon spokesman officially denied the existence of that November report, while various other top level government and intelligence officials refused to comment. But a few days later, Israeli television revealed that in November American intelligence had indeed shared such a report on the Wuhan disease outbreak with its NATO and Israeli allies, thus seeming to independently confirm the complete accuracy of the original ABC story and its several government sources.

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It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires.

Back in February, before a single American had died from the disease, I wrote my own overview of the possible course of events, and I would still stand by it today:

Consider a particularly ironic outcome of this situation, not particularly likely but certainly possible

Everyone knows that America's ruling elites are criminal, crazy, and also extremely incompetent.

So perhaps the coronavirus outbreak was indeed a deliberate biowarfare attack against China, hitting that nation just before Lunar New Year, the worst possible time to produce a permanent nationwide pandemic. However, the PRC responded with remarkable speed and efficiency, implementing by far the largest quarantine in human history, and the deadly disease now seems to be in decline there.

Meanwhile, the disease naturally leaks back into the US, and despite all the advance warning, our totally incompetent government mismanages the situation, producing a huge national health disaster, and the collapse of our economy and decrepit political system.

As I said, not particularly likely, but certainly a very fitting end to the American Empire

Related Reading:

The Myth of Tiananmen by Jay Matthews China's Rise, America's Fall Was Coronavirus a Biowarfare Attack Against China? by OldMicrobiologist Bats, Gene Editing and Bioweapons: Recent Darpa Experiments Raise Concerns Amid Coronavirus Outbreak by Whitney Webb How It All Began: the Belgrade Embassy Bombing by Peter Lee

Ozymandias , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:43 am GMT

But their government implemented public health control measures unprecedented in the history of the world and managed to almost completely eradicate the disease with merely the loss of a few thousand lives

And if you can't trust China's numbers, who can you trust?

The timing of an accidental laboratory release would obviously be entirely random. Yet the outbreak seems to have begun during precise period of time most likely to damage China

It almost sounds like putting a virus lab in the middle of twelve million people was a bad idea.

Lol. I can't believe you're doubling down on this jackassery.

Otto von Komsmark , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:07 am GMT
Ron Unz has done it again!! Good job, I've always thought the standard "Wuhan lab leak" theory seemed flawed
Otto von Komsmark , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:10 am GMT
Mr Unz, also have you read David Cole's theory on this (at TakiMag)? I know you and him got in blog beef a couple years ago over your Pravda article on Holocaust, but his theory also criticized the Wuhan "lab leak" and believes the wet markets originated the virus while the state lab was trying to cover up the "natural market" zoonotic mess. Would be fun to (again) watch you 2 debate notes.
Tor597 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:13 am GMT
If I had told you a year ago that Iran would have its top General assassinated and then its country decimated by a viral infection, that China would be a world pariah with calls for trillion in reparations, that Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela would have a bounty on his head for lol being involved in the cocaine trade, and that Kim Jong Un would be dead who do you think would be the architect of this future?

Chinese elites or American ones?

American neocons are literally getting everything they want.

You can look at all of the damage to the American economy relative to China, but who is really being hurt in America? Regular Americans are being hurt. But the elites are getting bailed out and will buy US assets for pennies on the dollar.

Mustapha Mond , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:19 am GMT
"When considering the hypothesis of an American biowarfare attack, certain natural objections come to mind. The major drawback to biological warfare has always been the obvious fact that the self-replicating agents employed are not prone to respect national borders, raising the serious risk that the disease might eventually return to the land of its origin and inflict substantial casualties. For this reason, it seems quite doubtful that any rational and half-competent American leadership would have unleashed the coronavirus against China."

Unless, of course, those in power knew exactly what that 'blowback' would entail, as they had modeled it over and over, for years, maybe decades.

They would be in a position to crash the stock market (and get out at the very top), assure a new alliance between the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury (allowing the elites to use the American taxpayers to fund their losses indefinitely), destroy the middle and lower classes through government ordered 'lockdowns' (driving down wages yet again, and making Americans frightened, unemployed and angry, and thereby easily mislead like in the 9/11 aftermath), create a world political environment allowing medical tyranny to make universal yearly vaccines and mandatory microchipping of everyone acceptable to the masses (ala Bill Gates/Tony Fauci/WHO and their Pig Pharma vaccine brigade), drop the price of oil indefinitely to fatally weaken Iran, hurt Russia and allow our predator capitalist banks to scoop up the failing US shale oil industry for pennies (which they are fully preparing to do), and ultimately allow the elites to perfectly time the inevitable deflation of the world's derivatives bubble, further sending the commoners into complete panic mode (and making their primal fears easily directed against the Western world's now common enemy, the Red Yellow Hordes.)

Doesn't sound very 'incompetent' to me. Sounds like utterly evil, but undeniably brilliant, military-economic planning. And it is looking like they may pull this one off, just like 9/11, and get the scared and terminally gullible Western plebes on board for their own further destruction economically, politically, and very possibly physically.

End Result: the PTB get to blame China for everything; make China foot the bill (or else); and when China balks, prepare the West's gullible, easily controlled citizens for military conflict if the Chinese don't roll over and cough up to the West's satisfaction.

Incompetence?

Sure looks to me like a neoliberal zionist-neocon elitist wet dream come true ..

Ozymandias , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:26 am GMT
@Otto von Komsmark If you believe that the virus originated in a wet market, what's your theory on why China immediately allowed wet markets to open back up (albeit with guards posted to prevent pics). Are they just exceptionally slow learners or do they realize that the wet market theory was always bogus?
swamped , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:39 am GMT
" the Chinese government began gingerly raising the possibility that the coronavirus may have been brought to Wuhan by the 300 American military officers visiting that city, and was fiercely attacked by the Trump Administration for spreading anti-American propaganda. But I strongly suspect that the Chinese had gotten that idea from our own publication" not at all improbable since said publication has a very deep current of slavish devotion to the Chinese state; such that one might even strongly suspect that the publication is getting its ideas from the Chinese totalitarians as much as the other way round. But since 'false flag' theories are another popular concept in such discussions, it might be conceivable that the human rights regime in Beijing deliberately released the mystery bug in China & Iran first, in order to throw suspicion on the U.S. The Chinese & Iranian tallies so far have been surprisingly low despite starting there earlier, so if they're not suppressing the facts, maybe they knew what to expect & were prepared. And the brunt of it would then be borne by their Western 'adversaries'. Not to mention, that the Chinese despots could reinforce their iron grip on Chinese society with their customary contempt for civil liberties. China's "current government is grotesquely and manifestly" incompatible with personal freedom, more incompatible than "one could almost possibly imagine", with tens of millions of Uighurs, Tibetans, dissidents, workers having now already paid with their lives & freedom for such extreme incompatibility.
"Rationality and competence are obviously nowhere to be found among the Deep State Neocons that President Donald Trump has appointed to so many crucial positions throughout our national security apparatus" and certainly rationality, competence, humanity are never to be found among Neo-cons anywhere. The President has been wise to largely ignore them. If Trump had been President in '99, it's very likely that the absolutely unnecessary, devastating war on Serbia by Hillary & Bill – based on deliberate lies – would never have gotten off the ground.
President Trump now faces the daunting dilemma of how to protect the society while at the same time not displaying the same disdain for political & civic freedom that is the hallmark of the CCP. An end to America Empire would be a good thing – the President knows that, as he again reiterated the trillions misspent in the M.E. at his daily press conference today – but this isn't the way to do it. Only a Chinese communist or fellow traveler could believe that.
Jim Jatras , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:43 am GMT
"At the time, I was overwhelmingly focused on domestic political issues, so I only paid slight attention to our one small military operation of those years, the 1999 NATO air war against Serbia, intended to safeguard the Bosnian Muslims from ethnic cleansing and massacre, a Clinton Administration project that I fully endorsed." And why should one believe our government and media about "safeguard(ing) the Bosnian Muslims from ethnic cleansing and massacre" any more than one should believe their other lies?
TG , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:44 am GMT
For most of this post, I can't say one way or the other. I personally think this was either the result of the so-called "wet-markets" in China – long known to be the primary source of the annual flu epidemics (why the heck haven't they been shut down??) or a criminally NEGLIGENT release from a research lab.

But.

"China recognizes that it is vastly outmatched in any propaganda conflict, and so as the far weaker party must necessarily try to stick closer to the truth, lest its lies be immediately exposed. Meanwhile, America's overwhelming control over information may lead to considerable hubris, with the government sometimes promoting the most outrageous and ridiculous falsehoods in the confident belief that a supportive American media will cover for any mistakes."

OUCH! Good one. Nicely said.

CanSpeccy , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:48 am GMT

Nearly 30,000 Americans have died from the coronavirus during the last two weeks, and by some estimates this is a substantial under-count

Quoted numbers of deaths are as unreliable as the number of infections.

Cause of death as stated in a death certificate is often, and even usually, wrong, and during an epidemic caused by a virus that induces respiratory difficulty it is likely that virtually all deaths due to respiratory dysfunction will be attributed to the virus without confirmatory evidence.

Furthermore, virtually all deaths of persons testing positive for covid19 will be attributed to the virus even though the deceased may have had multiple other diseases, any one of which could have been the cause of death.

But as this epidemic is shaping up, it is likely that the estimated death toll will be comparable to that of the seasonal flu in a bad year. Herd immunity is likely now widespread, so the thing should fizzle out soon, with or without continued population incarceration.

Tor597 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:50 am GMT
Unz, just wanted to say that it has been quite a ride to read this blog during the outbreak.

Stuff we talked about 2 months ago is starting to trickle out into the mainstream with the appropriate spin of course.

There really is no other place where alternative views such as your get a proper viewing.

CanSpeccy , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:03 am GMT

Boris Johnson boldly declared that his own coronavirus plan for Britain was based upon rapidly achieving "herd immunity" -- essentially encouraging the bulk of his citizens to become infected -- then quickly backed away after his desperate advisors recognized that the result might entail a million or more British deaths.

LOL. Neil Ferguson an Imperial College epidemiologist with an awesomely bad track record in predicting the course of epidemics, made some such prediction which he soon modified to a very much smaller number – 20,000 I believe, a number not yet reached.

In fact, the original plan was abandoned for fear that unrestricted spread of the virus would result in a concentration of infections, which at the peak, would overload hospitals by that minority of cases requiring hospital treatment.

Getaclue , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:05 am GMT
@Ozymandias Seems they could and did: https://fromrome.info/2020/03/26/rai-in-2015-reported-that-the-chinese-had-developed-covid-19/

https://fromrome.info/2020/03/17/multiple-studies-point-to-chinese-biowarfare-lab-in-wuhan-as-designer-of-covid-19/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/update-dr-shi-zhengli-ran-coronavirus-research-wuhan-us-project-shut-dhs-2014-risky-prior-leak-killed-researcher/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/france-also-involved-wuhan-coronavirus-facility-awarded-bat-doctor-shi-high-level-french-civil-medal/

Not just NWO ChiCom China of course– they're just the tool, the NWO "Elites"/Globalists, who shipped USA Manufacturing to China and destroyed the Middle Class in the USA etc., have made China the "Model" for us all -- "Social Credit Scores" for the Peons, an authoritarian "Party" of "Elites" with all power, Peons having to get a "green" signal on their cell phones every time they go outside . -- NWO Globalist "Elites" actually running the CVirus show/"Production"/911 "Event" Part 2 -- "Invisible Terrorists Forever"– meanwhile most "journalists" are cheering the loss of freedoms and anyone who points out what is going on wants to "kill Grandma" is "Selfish" it's all about on a Junior High School level but after getting away with 911 Demolition anyone not a rube, grifter/or in on it knew they'd be back to finish it off– and so they are here with the Plandemic:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/elite-covid-19-coup-against-terrified-humanity-resisting-powerfully/5709479

Side note: Interesting the Mainslime Media is not all over China's Racism towards Blacks as evidenced in their Ad here against "Diversity" and "Race Mixing"– they aren't kidding! Seems ChiComs can do what YT could never .: https://twitter.com/sadir_Palwan/status/1250570077163925509

All of it laid out on the Walls of the creepy NWO/Masonic Denver Airport: https://thechive.com/2012/03/08/something-is-rotten-in-the-denver-airport-25-photos/

Rothschild Magazine too: https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/order-out-of-chaos-how-the-elites-plans-were-foretold-in-popular-culture/

anon [257] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:10 am GMT
Grossly unfair to blame the Trump administration for the depredations of the deep state.
Hippopotamusdrome , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:17 am GMT

"The Myth of Tiananmen"

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Nanjing anti-African protests

The Nanjing protests were groundbreaking dissidence for China and went from solely expressing concern about alleged [sic] improprieties by African men to increasingly calling for democracy or human rights. They were paralleled by burgeoning demonstrations in other cities during the period between the Nanjing and the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, with some elements of the original protests that started in Nanjing still evident in Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, such as banners proclaiming "Stop Taking Advantage of Chinese Women" even though the vast majority of African students had left the country by that point.

Jeremygg5 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:28 am GMT
@Ozymandias

And if you can't trust China's numbers, who can you trust?

It's very true that China's numbers is perhaps the best numbers that you could trust.

Moritz Kraemer, a scholar at Oxford University who is leading a team of researchers in mapping the global spread of the coronavirus, says China's data "provided incredible detail," including a patient's age, sex, travel history and history of chronic disease, as well as where the case was reported, and the dates of the onset of symptoms, hospitalization and confirmation of infection.
The United States, he said, "has been slow in collecting data in a systematic way.". The article not only showing the chaotic situation in different states, but highlights the limited information shared with scientific community.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/coronavirus-data-privacy.html

The WHO too only had high praises for China's transparency and efficiency.

The only parties challenging these are Trump, Mike Pompeo, and the US Intelligence. Make a pick who to trust.

CanSpeccy , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:28 am GMT

But in mid-March I came across several extremely long and detailed comments on the coronavirus outbreak that had been posted on a small website by an individual calling himself "OldMicrobiologist" and who claimed to be a retired forty-year veteran of American biodefense. The style and details of his material struck me as quite credible, and after a little further investigation I concluded that there was a high likelihood that his background was exactly as he had described. I made arrangements to republish his comments in the form of a 3,400 word article, which soon attracted a great deal of traffic and 80,000 words of further comments.

Although the writer said that he had absolutely no proof, he said that his experience led him to strongly suspect that the coronavirus outbreak was indeed an American biowarfare attack against China, probably carried out by agents brought into that country under cover of the Military Games held at Wuhan in late October, the sort of sabotage operation our intelligence agencies had sometimes undertaken elsewhere.

Oh God, that crap again. Some geezer who may or may not have any relevant expertise, had a suspicion, but absolutely no proof, of a goofy theory that to launch a biowarfare attack on China the US Government had the brilliant idea of having the agent released by a contingent of 300 American soldiers participating in the international military games held in Wuhan, China.

Is that a stupid idea, or what?

And anyhow, there is evidence just published in the Proceedings of the US National Academy of Sciences that the viral epidemic in China did not begin in Wuhan and, furthermore, it began earlier than originally believed, i.e., before the Military Games.

But we are dealing with a cataclysmic world event

Not really. Just a new disease out of China, one of many from China since the year dot, which has a lethality comparable to the seasonal flu. The event is cataclysmic only because of the economic consequences of the public policy response in most Western states, though not Sweden.

nsa , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:29 am GMT
@Ozymandias Hey Ozy, The Australians claimed to have suffered only 120 wu-wu virus deaths total. The South Koreans claim only 250 wu-wu deaths total. In Ozy world, are they liars too along with the Chinese? Or is it possible they have a functional public health system and moderately competent politicians who decided to fix the wu-wu virus problem .instead of playing golf and bullshitting the public for six weeks. The wu-wu virus death total in the essential exceptional nation is now 42,000 and rising. No other country is even close. It's like Trumpie heard the experts advise "fatten the curve" instead of "flatten the curve".
Anonymous [886] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:36 am GMT
So, you "fully endorsed" Clinton Administration 1999 NATO air war against Serbia, and you don't even know that it wasn't "intended to safeguard the Bosnian Muslims from ethnic cleansing and massacre",
because war in Bosnia was already done long before 1999 (war finished in 1995).
Hail , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:38 am GMT

the Tiananmen Square Massacre Hoax

a year or two ago I happened to come across a short article by journalist Jay Matthews entitled "The Myth of Tiananmen" that completely upended that apparent reality.

According to Matthews the infamous massacre had likely never happened, but was merely a media artifact produced by confused Western reporters and dishonest propaganda, a mistaken belief that had quickly become embedded in our standard media storyline, endlessly repeated by so many ignorant journalists that they all eventually believed it to be true.

the protesting students had all left Tiananmen Square peacefully, just as the Chinese government had always maintained.

the bulk of the mainstream media had fallen for an apparent hoax.

This is like saying the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre was a hoax because most of the deaths occurred overnight, past midnight, no longer St. Bartholomew's Day, ergo "the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre" was a Hoax. Throwing the baby out with a technicality.

Checking the Jay Matthews story, I see this:

Hundreds of people, most of them workers and passersby, did die that night, but in a different place and under different circumstances.

The Chinese government estimates more than 300 fatalities. Western estimates are somewhat higher. Many victims were shot by soldiers on stretches of Changan Jie, the Avenue of Eternal Peace, about a mile west of the square, and in scattered confrontations in other parts of the city

thordaddy , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:42 am GMT
And now back to the local scene There is no "there" there .
Nils , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:45 am GMT
Many things to discuss

Regarding SARS inability to spread further, that's why the glycoprotein 120 was added: it's an external protein they borrowed from HIV and CRISPR'd onto the Covid-19.

Interesting enough by including this mechanism in the novel virus they have perhaps laid the ground for future AIDS type syndromes in those who get the virus or some variant of it. That's another topic deserving it's own crowd funded public research.

Much of the suddenly far reaching effects of this novel virus derive from the advent of CRISP technology and the ability to fuse different parts of virus into one. Of course, zoonotic transmission still needs to occur hence all the special grants to Wuhan Institute and North Carolina in doing this type of research, going out and collecting the special virus out of bat shit 600 miles away from Wuhan in caves in remote China, and feeding it to pigs and chimps who die and the process is repeated until a stable virus is developed.

Interesting enough Dr Fauci is an expert on HIV and specifically glycoprotein 120. He's worked to run private trial tests while working in the government probably for his Fort Detrick buddies.

Everyone reading this article and still intrigued for more information out to check out two key players that researching the origins of the virus and it's likely bioengineered origins:

George Webb on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/embed/NdMt8bHfQKM?feature=oembed

Dr. Paul Cottrell on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/embed/x9_gY43iIns?feature=oembed

This virus has links to Fauci, research at Fort Detrick, as well as research carried out in North Carolina and Wuhan that was paid for by grants from Fauci while running major government groups.

It appears part of this operation utilized the NATO transport network for transporting deadly diseases and nuclear material. In fact, one such courier was in Wuhan as an American cyclist for the military games

But I digress.

The blowback part Ron mentions being the consequence of stupidity from the government are possible but I think unlikely. If you follow parallel developments in geopolitics and, specifically, finance (not withstanding all of Bill Gates work with companies to have a vaccine ready to go ), you'll see perhaps the makings of a grand conspiracy to (1) cement the strength of the dollar and (2) sequester Chinese economic growth and power all at once.

For this to work most of the government would not know what's going on and that probably includes Trump. Plus, what better way to hide culpability than to inflict a wound on yourself?

For links to articles discussing this topic see below:

https://thesaker.is/strengthening-the-us-dollar-comments-on-ramin-mazaheri/

Mike-SMO , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:45 am GMT
Everyone is enjoying the screaming and paranoia but China (East Asia) has been producing new and "wonderful" diseases for several thousand years. They used to have bacterial variations but in the last few centuries have moved to designer viruses.

South China has wall-to-wall rice paddies where wild and migratory animals feed, drink and sh*t with farm animals under the care of a billion or so humans with primitive concepts of sanitation and minimal, to no, modern healthcare, so "rare" or "unlikely" bug mutations and species "jumps" are just a matter of time. The wild birds of China Summer in Siberia and Alaska with all the other birds of the world. The "Real" Globalism ..

The appearance of Corona variants in Kazhakstan, Iran, the Gulf States, and Israeli ckickens, or the appearance of "pig flu" in Mexico, or the Spanish Flu (1918?) in Kansas, all under major bird migratory routes, should not be too much of a surprise. Even if a US, UN or Chinese agency finds it. Be aware that this used to happen before Boeing and AirBus joined the game.

Be careful cleaning the poop off your windshield and/or yard furniture.

Damn flying dinosaurs are dangerous. If you find some poop with a "made in China" label, call the authorities. They will love the warning about the poison from a flying Chinese Communist dragon.

Anonymous [785] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:45 am GMT
Tl;dr

The coronavirus is serial! Thooper serial! Look at all these in depth political analyses and ignore the facts in plain view!

Blowback is a particularly telling choice of word, since I remember Noam Chomsky using the same term. He used it to add weight to the official 9/11 story by claiming the events were a direct result of US foreign policy, which re-enforced the Muslim terrorist angle and stopped people from looking for the real culprits.

utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:58 am GMT
Ron, when exactly did you republish the Metallicman's blog? The following seems to imply that it was in late January:

These were the thoughts that came to mind during the last week of January ..

At that point, .a very long article by an American ex-pat living in China who called himself "Metallicman" .

and the date under the title is January 27 but the first comment was on February 14.

Anon [605] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:59 am GMT
Another great installment in the American Pravda series. I use to work in the federal government and always wondered why employees of the Nationals Archives* needed a top secret U.S. government clearance and why employees of Presidential libraries needed to have the same security clearance as a nuclear submarine commander (top secret- sensitive compartmented information). What secrets could there possibly be from 60 years ago?? Then it dawned on me that it could never be known by the general public how their country behaves toward other countries and why and how we go to war. We would lose all faith in our government.

I have only one small correction:

[Charles Lieber] was seized by the FBI in an early-morning raid on his Cambridge home and dragged off in shackles, potentially facing decades of federal imprisonment.

He lives in a wooded suburban neighborhood in Lexington, MA, not in the city of Cambridge.

* https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/565429100

Vaterland , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:04 am GMT
On the one hand a bio-warfare attack on China is something I can absolutely see the American elites post 9/11 do. Their track-record speaks for itself.

There have also been significant shifts in Europe's alignment, on which US global dominance critically depends: the continuation of Northstream 2 against the explicit wishes of the Americans, 5 G expansion and Huawei cooperation in the European market, plans of replacing NATO with a European army (talks on the fringe of the right about a defense pact with Russia), the Belt and Road trillion dollar project which has its better European name as "The New Silk Road". Eurasian integration goes directly against the global dominance strategy of the US Empire. Europe is also now caught between an intense and visible propaganda warfare of the USA and China/Russia.

And there were also the proxy-war in Ukraine and the refugee crisis: the latter at minimum a fallout of US-Israeli wars in the Middle East and the Zionist assault against Libya; yet not unlikely itself a direct assault against Europe. And not only Willy Wimmer, closest adviser to our old chancellor Helmut Kohl, strongly suspected as much already back in 2015. Wimmer had been part of several war games in Langley in his time in the German government, quite clearly reasoning that in modern warfare you cannot initiate a conflict without knowing where the refugees will go – it is part of the planning process.

There also exists this paper:
https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/strategic-engineered-migration-weapon-war

On the other hand we must recognize the long term and massive investments of for example Blackrock and Vanguard into China; the ambitions to liberalize Chinese society and further open their economy for foreign, especially US investments; the attempts of Zionism to set up shop in China; the key role of Israel in the Belt and Road project and the admiration the Chinese have for Jews and their material success.

If it was a bio-warfare attack and if the ambition is to lock the USA and China in a new Cold War with potential proxy wars, then Americas financial and Jewish elite, which so very much dominate the deep state neocons, must be of the opinion that their profits will not be affected by it.

And if it was the long-term plan of Zionism and much of Americas financial, largely Jewish, elite to shift their power-base from the USA which they have effectively subjugated to the less secured China, then a bio-warfare attack would hardly be a smart move to keep the transition as quiet as possible.

Seraphim , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:04 am GMT
@if American biowarfare analysts were considering a coronavirus attack against China, isn't it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we'd similarly remain insulated from the coronavirus? Obviously, such an analysis was foolish and mistaken, but would it have seemed so implausible at the time?

Albert Einstein: "Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results".
Moreover, in establishing whether a crime was committed, the criminal investigation has to establish first that there was a motive, the means and the opportunity to commit the crime. All these criteria are satisfied in this case pointing to a biological attack against China and its allies.
The possibility of biowarfare (and its desirability) was unequivocally formulated in September 2000 when the 'Project for the New American Century' released "Rebuilding America's Defenses", a report that promotes "the belief that America should seek to preserve and extend its position of global leadership by maintaining the preeminence of U.S. military forces." The report also states, "advanced forms of biological warfare that can "target" specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool".
The first bioweapons research program was initiated in America by Sir Frederick Banting with corporate sponsorship in 1940.
From Wikipedia (no secrets): In 1942 "U.S. Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson requested that the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) undertake consideration of U.S. biological warfare. In response the NAS formed a committee, the War Bureau of Consultants (WBC), which issued a report on the subject in February 1942.The report, among other items, recommended the research and development of an offensive biological weapons program.
The British, and the research undertaken by the WBC, pressured the U.S. to begin biological weapons research and development and in November 1942 U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt officially approved an American biological weapons program. In response to the information provided by the WBC, Roosevelt ordered Stimson to form the War Research Service (WRS). Established within the Federal Security Agency, the WRS' stated purpose was to promote "public security and health", but, in reality, the WRS was tasked with coordinating and supervising the U.S. biological warfare program. In the spring of 1943 the U.S. Army Biological Warfare Laboratories were established at Fort (then Camp) Detrick in Maryland".
The Chinese read their James Bond: "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action".

Christopher Marlowe , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:05 am GMT
It doesn't make sense to me that the US would fly drones over chinese pig farms half way around the world in order to infect half the pigs in China with African swine flu.
Smithfield is the largest producer of pork in the US. Smithfield is owned by a Chinese firm. So China is making up for their lack of domestic pork by buying their own US pork. How would this risky venture benefit the US? Yet this was the accusation labelled against the US by many Chinese. With zero proof.

The timing of this pandemic is very beneficial to the deep state, and the MSM is hyping the heck out of it; and the CDC et al are pumping up the numbers to make it seems as bad as possible. It's like they WANT a global pandemic. To crash the market and make DJT look bad? That is what the Biden for drooling pres campaign videos are hyping already.

If there is a germ war going on, it is China doing it to its communist shit-hole self. I don't know why anybody trades with them. The Chinese state literally kills Uyghurs and Falun Gong and steals their organs, but they have favored nation trading status? wtf

Octavian , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:12 am GMT
Interesting take.

It is fairly congruent with my own writeup from a few weeks back. Although I did not go so far as to definitively endorse any particular theory. The idea of this all being an American strike on China is the interesting hypothesis to me and fits my understanding of how America's geopolitical toolbox might work best. There is also a case to be made that the blowback stateside is a feature not a bug.

The United States could come out ahead in terms of the great game with China. But only if it can play its cards correctly.

Ultimately, what enough people think about this whole situation is what will define outcomes and right now things are on track for the bulk of the Chinese population to think that this is an American attack and for a significant number of Americans to believe that this is either accidental or deliberate Chinese action.

I think those popular attitudes are very valuable to their respective governments.

It's not helpful to onshore blame.

Thanks for another engaging article!

anon [227] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:14 am GMT
Devil's advocacy is always an important intellectual activity, but you seemed to have pretty much pointed out the hole in your grand theory yourself.

If we're going to imagine the US gov't apparatus is competent enough to start the virus in China, one would have to presume (if their collective IQ's approach anywhere near 90) that they would also set up for the contingency that it might come to the US too.

Imagining otherwise is akin to thinking the US top brass have the intelligence of some of those bonehead crooks who sometimes make the news for their stupid (and funny) attempts at crime. The US top brass might be dumb, but c'mon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn5CvDgaZSc

Miro23 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:20 am GMT

I think we can safely assume that Lieber's arrest by the FBI had been prompted by the coronavirus epidemic, but anything more is mere speculation. Those now accusing China of having created the coronavirus might surely suggest that our intelligence agencies discovered that the Harvard professor had been personally involved with that deadly research. But I think a far more likely possibility is that Lieber began to wonder whether the epidemic in China might not be the result of an American biowarfare attack, and was perhaps a little too free in voicing his suspicions, thereby drawing the wrath of our national security establishment.

Or alternatively, who would a laboratory whistleblower turn to other than a respected Harvard professor, who would understand the technical aspects, and who he may actually already have known and trusted?

Thus, we have America assassinating Iran's top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iran's ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?

An irresistible add-on like Larry Silverstein's extra insurance cover and payout.

One intriguing aspect of the situation was that almost from the first moment that reports of the strange new epidemic in China reached the international media, a large and orchestrated campaign had been launched on numerous websites and Social Media to identify the cause as a Chinese bioweapon carelessly released in its own country.

Again similar to 9/11 with an instant media explanation trumpeted around the world (no investigation necessary).

It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires.

Agreed – they really messed it up – and it would be a world class irony if it was their own virus that wrecks the US economy.

mike99588 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:34 am GMT
The Chinese embassy in Serbia is an interesting side story. However, as much as I disagreed with why we were there, another Clinton abuse of office, China was apparently participating as a combatant providing crucial signals support to the Serbian military. Topped off by handling sensitive F117 residuals that we wanted destroyed. Or perhaps only some of US, given various conflicts of interests in both Clinton globalism and sharing/planned obsolescence by arms makers .

CV19
The "US did it" is a possibility that certainly should be addressed in the continuum of many possibilities. I certainly would look for linkages between BHO administration/Gates/academia/DeepGreen/China. China certainly does not act innocent, covering up the early patients' stories and physical evidence a la our JFK scale.

As for US incompetence, the globalist media favors CCP; liberalism; Big Tech; Big Medicine; the Democratic Party; along with the O/Clintonista FDA and CDC, have done everything possible to hamstring accurate CV19 information amongst the citizenry, and specifically against Trump. Huge TDS.

Months of near total shutdown on IV vitamin C, bowel tolerance dosing of vitamin C, high dose vitamin D, quercetin and orthomolecular cocktails for prophylaxis and treatment. As well as censorship and savage attacks on people trying to evolve the HCQ+AZM+zinc cocktail.

antitermite , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:35 am GMT
A few loose thoughts, firstly that China accusation is one of the most egregious exhibitions of chutzpah by the western government & media.
Trial by media, if you will.
We now have ignoramuses spouting that "China has exterminated 21 million virus carriers" despite rational economic explanation of the phenomenon https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71555/21-million-chinese-phone-users-vanished-not-attributed-to-coronavirus/index.html

Prof Lieber's greatest "crime" is probably because he is responsible for saving untold numbers of potential infectees, at least in the early stages
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2004/10/sensor-detects-identifies-single-viruses/
ie his work on virus detection & identification is why the Chinese government was able to deal with the pandemic so quickly & effectively.

A bioweapon does Not have to have a high bodycount to work as intended; weapons of mass destruction – even nukes (despite western brainwashing that they "ended WWII") – have very few military applications and primarily target civilians.
Their main effect is disruption & demoralisation; in this Covid-19 has succeeded beyond possible expectations.

The USA has patents for coronaviruses going back to 2003, post-SARS:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7220852B1/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701
Whilst these are Not the Covid-19 variant, it goes to show that they can indeed be vat-grown.
Even should the current coronavirus be a natural mutation, it can still be weaponised.
Many of the most fearsome pathogens such as smallpox, anthrax and the bubonic plague are also natural-born killers. Supposedly they have been eradicated from the face of the planet, safely existing only in military laboratories around the globe, for research purposes of course.

The circumstantial evidence that Cov19 is a bioattack is enormous, and the likelihood of US origin is pretty damning. The US government will be desperate to point fingers everywhere else, and is using the tried&tested trial by media +obfuscation, rather than logic and reasoning.
If hard proof of US culpability manifests then the appropriate level of China's response will be "nuclear" (I don't mean actual nukes, but something like dumping US treasury bonds).

SolontoCroesus , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:54 am GMT

Meanwhile, the disease naturally leaks back into the US

How?

Is there specific information tracing this "leak" to China?

Is it possible -- is it even conceivable -- that the same logic that you detailed to tip the scales in favor of US biowarfare against China can also suggest that the bioweapon did not "naturally leak" into the US but was deliberately deployed against the people of the United States?

Follow the money: the goal of (speculated) biowar against China was, as you wrote, not to kill but to economically devastate a formidable competitor-turned-adversary (same thing the US has been doing to Iran by sanctions since at least 1995 with Clinton's executive order, made permanent by the D'Amato Iran Libya Sanctions Act).

The goal of biowar against the people of the USA is to cripple the economy, to Weimarize American commerce and enable those left standing to scoop up the life's work and investment of millions of entrepreneurs for pennies on the dollar, with the added travesty that those left standing are supplied with dollars by the very taxpayers whose assets are being snapped up!

Gaius Gracchus , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 6:59 am GMT
The Chinese government lied and continues to lie about the virus.

The Wuhan leadership knew in mid December and arrested doctors who leaked the info and destroyed lab records.

Xi likely knew no later than January 1.

There are thousands of wet markets in southern China and SE Asia, but only the one a short walk from the Wuhan Institute of Virology allegedly was the source.

Chinese researchers worked in America to develop this exact virus, adding HIV to SARS, and left in 2015 to work in Wuhan.

Chinese national was arrested in 2018 in Detroit while carrying live SARS and MERS viruses.

Chinese scientists working in Canada were kicked out in 2019 for shipping stolen biological material to Wuhan.

It was developed in the lab, but I suspect the release was accidental. The cover up and letting the virus spread around the world was intentional.

Xi is fighting to maintain power. He might not succeed

The US government did fund the research of those Chinese researchers at UNC. They continued to fund them in China.

China's economy had already stalled. Then it lost the trade war. Banks were failing. Foreign companies were moving out. Xi used the opportunity of the virus to avoid the disaster of economic collapse and to hurt the rest of the world after the Century of Humiliation, China would rather take the rest of the world down rather than go down alone.

Daniel Rich , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:01 am GMT
@ Ron Unz,

Although nearby East Asian nations such as South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Singapore had been at greatest risk and were among the first infected, their competent and energetic responses .

Japan's reaction to the Corona virus is/was not competent and energetic, unless you want to count the way how the Japanese government dealt with the cruise ship 'Diamond Princess' as a resounding success. Send army recruits without protection to the ship, start with 10 patients, quarantine the entire ship, end up with 765 infected individuals, and then send people [tourists] home. I live on one of the 4 big islands and there is no lock down here. Below is a picture I took just now [what they refer to as a Junior High School], Tuesday, 21 April, 2020 ~16:00 P.M. fro the window of my apartment.

Judge for yourself.

No masks. No distance. No governmental guidance. Japan is run by bureaucrats and it shows.

Thanks for the article. It was a pleasure to read.

Hail , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:07 am GMT

According to this reconstruction, the Chinese government first became aware of the seriousness of this public health crisis on Jan. 14th, but delayed taking any major action until Jan. 20th, a period of time during which the number of infections greatly multiplied.

This also fits in with an alternative explanation, which is admittedly wild but which I would say is considerably less wild than the bioweapon-blowback theory:

https://www.unz.com/isteve/for-want-of-a-nail/#comment-3847340

J.Ross has proposed [ ] this whole thing may be a Chinese Communist Party 'Hoax,' in the sense that while the 'new' virus is real (there are always 'new viruses'), the reaction was at least 1000x what was necessary to deal with a bad flu strain and that China played it up to scare people, especially the US. China's actions (mass shutdown) triggered a series of events that scared everyone. But none of the data we have corroborate the Mass Killer Apocalypse Virus fears. So what was this?

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[This] theory would have it that the CCP's sudden about-face on The New Virus -- a literally overnight about-face [Jan. 20] from "not a big deal" to "shut down a region with 60 million people, cue the Virus Apocalypse Movie film reels and the hazmat suits" -- was a calculated bid to hurt the US and to hurt Western economies. By the time of the unexpected about-face, they had 100% certainty it had spread to the US and elsewhere, AND that these countries had the kind of media that would go into hysteria mode AND had the technological capacity to do "testing."

This theory would attribute to the CCP a calculated bid to create a false virus panic with plausible deniability ("so sorry! we didn't have the data! it was early; we reacted the best we could; and hey even the highly-neutral WHO are calling us heroes") which would scare people and trigger a series of events that throw the US and its satellites in Western Europe into chaos, making the latter easier pickings for Belt & Road and Huawi colonization, etc.; countries dazed by a mass-hysteria-recession are suddenly beggars, not choosers.

The Chinese Communist Party's calculation would have been, on that fateful 'about-face' evening, that the West was much less ready to handle a panic than Communist China would be. It was a risk to them but it worked.

If this theory is right, in fact, the CCP succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. A case of the dog finally catching the car bumper; what the heck now? The results for China's regime itself are unclear, given that the cynical triggering of mass-hysteria-recessions in major trading partners equates to a drought that sinks all boats.

The alternative, and many would say more plausible theory, is that the Chinese Communist Party panicked, too, and reacted highly irrationally, taking a sledgehammer to a handful of mosquitoes and then salting the earth where the flattened bodies of the mosquitoes landed. Or a synthesis of the two may be true. It's hard to disentangle motivations. But the unexplained 'about-face' is real and needs explanation.

Thulean Friend , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:20 am GMT
In the end, does it matter? Even if we take the more innocuous version at face value: the virus had nothing to do with bioweapons and simply mutated naturally from bats to humans, the response of the West has been utterly atrocious either way.

We're now seeing a Yellow Peril 2.0 campaign ramped up at astonishing speed. The so-called "liberal class", posturing as tolerant and sophisticated, is now trying to run on Trump's right flank on China. Joe Biden's campaign ads on China are Cold War-style cariactures.

I've been seeing the consequences play out even in neutral places. I frequent quite a few technology-related subreddits and the unmitigated hatred of China is truly a sight to be hold. Even the most tangential topics get hijacked by zealots. For all the talk about how the media's power is supposedly dimishing, the cattle is still very much influenced by what the MSM tells them to think.

On a related note, I find this article to be great: https://thegrayzone.com/2020/04/20/trump-media-chinese-lab-coronavirus-conspiracy/

I hope Unz can syndicate some stories from The Grayzone, which I find to be the only publication on the left which isn't in thrall with the DNC. Even Democracy Now! and Jacobin are pushing state department scare stories on China. The total collapse of the American left over the last 10-15 years is a greatly undertold story.

utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:23 am GMT
The alleged report by National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) is the most damning piece of evidence if the report does exist. Here is the official denial:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/pentagon-bashes-bombshell-abc-report-denies-u-s-intel-identified-coronavirus-threat-in-november/
Colonel R. Shane Day, a medical doctor and director of the NCMI, issued a rare public statement to deny the existence of the report.

"As a matter of practice, the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters," Day said. "However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists."

So we are in the "Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied." territory.

What is important is not that Channel 12 (in Israel) followed the ABC article but that it added an extra bit of information which was not in the original ABC article that the report was passed to Israel and that the IDF held a first discussion about it still in November.

Fooling some ABC reporter by offering her Trump damaging leak that Trump knew but did nothing could be easy but getting a confirmation from Israel where presumably sources in the IDF had to be involved it does not seem as a simple get Trump operation.

Pft , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:25 am GMT
I don't think people understand the extent of collaboration between US and China including Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) , It actually goes back to the early 1980's with cooperation between USAMIID and WIV on Hanta Viruses. More recently extensive collaboration between China and US on gain of function studies and virus hunting, especially with corona viruses from bats. Ralph Baric UNC and Shih Zhengli from Wuhan have published papers together . Funding of joint studies from USAMIID, NIAID, DARPA. NIH, etc. George Gao the Director of Chinese CDC participated in the Event 201 simulation. There are many more ties. Google Wuhan Biolake -a lot of global biotech companies there.

I dont think anyone can know the extent of the disease in China. After all a super spreading virus from as early as November circulating in heavily polluted Wuhan, a city more populated than NYC , which was also a major domestic and international transportation hub with millions leaving the city for other destinations in China and internationally in the weeks before Wuhan was locked down just before the New Year when everything shuts down for 2 weeks anyways. And yet the disease only spreads to Europe and US but not to any degree outside Hubei province? Not believable.

And as for US deaths from COVID-19 being undercounted. Where is the evidence for that. CDC has basically informed everyone to count a case as COVID based on suspicions (no positive test needed). If a heart disease patient of 80 years old has a heart attack while also having pneumonia its COVID-19. And those tests, they haven't been validated. There are many different tests. We don't know the specificity of any of them. Very likely there are many false positives. Also if a hospital can collect more money from medicare with a covid-19 diagnosis, guess whats going to be diagnosed more often.

So I am skeptical.

Now 30,000 deaths attributed to covid in 2 weeks is a lot. In a normal 2 week period there would be 110,000 total deaths. So have there been 140,000 deaths in total, or just 110, 000 deaths with 30, 000 called Covid deaths? I dont know.

I actually expect more deaths than normal even without covid. Suicides. More deaths from heart attacks and stroke due to financial stress and people delaying treatment out of fear of getting the virus. More cancer deaths for same reason. Increased alcoholism and obesity should trigger more deaths in the next few months.

One has to consider this an event on an international scale on a par with 9/11 in magnitude and impact on freedoms. Curious how WHO declares pandemic on 3/11. Coincidence I guess.

Lot of players in the Virus Industrial Complex stand to make a lot of money in coming years as a result. The Globalists will push through digital ID and mandatory vaccination for international travelers if not everyone and the Global Health Security Alliance (GHSA) will be strengthened. The right will get tighter immigration controls and more bailouts for Big Business. The left gets a taste of universal income and perhaps medicare for all (2009 pandemic helped get Obamacare approved). And the technocrats will get more toys for the Surveillance and Tracking Industry with Big Data monitoring all the chipped individuals health among other things. Cashless society to minimize virus spread pushed through so all transactions can be logged. Everyone wins but the little guy.

And you can bet the Greenies will capitalize on this

Since the Virus Industrial Complex took over the Public Health Agencies in the 1970's we have had endless Virus Scares, Swine Flu in 1976, Hepatitis B (1978) , AIDS in 1980,
MS-ME/CFS outbreaks (1984), HPV/Cervical Cancer (1984), HHV-6 (1986) , SARS (2003) , Bird Flu (2005), Swine Flu (2009) , MERs (2012) Zika (2014) Measles (2014) Ebola (2015) and now COVID-2019

See a pattern here?

We got virus finders/makers in academia and security /military agencies in the interest of biowarfare defense and science working with vaccine and drug companies who receive funds to develop treatments for these newly found/made viruses, in some cases before any human has been infected. Reminds me of the time when those working for anti-virus software companies were suspected of generating computer viruses to sell more software and be fastest to provide the patch (since they created the virus). In any case, certainly a lot of interlocking conflict of interests among members of the Virus Industrial Complex.

BPVegas , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:25 am GMT
The United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) of Ft. Detrick fame has been partnered with the Wuhan Virlogy Lab since 1981. The Wuhan Lab has also been partnered with college basketball powerhouse Duke University. Check out the Lab's website. This facilityis a diagnostic lab not a bioweapons lab. The USA has bioweapons labs located on the Chinese and Russian borders in Kazakhstan. Oh what a tangled web we weave .
Ilya G Poimandres , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:25 am GMT
Excellent summary of the anectodal evidence.

I just want to say that we need to distinguish between conspiracy theory and conspiracy hypothesis.

The out of Wuhan lab is a conspiracy hypothesis, or much closer to it. There is no plausible benefit to the Chinese, and saying 'a disgruntled employee may have dun it to get at dem dictators' is just speculation in the sky.

On the other hand the anectodal evidence for it being US action – the obvious benefit, the time and place of the outbreak, the military games team, the precognition, as well as how the CDC is not tracing patient zero in the US (if it was in China in Nov, surely it could have been in the US then too, and then the whole propaganda story falls apart).. Even the US crying wolf again, after so many times, is almost enough for me.

They are all anecdotal of course, but perfectly in line with the MO and historical practice of the US government.

I now thank my friends when they call me a conspiracy theorist loon, as I point out that Russiagate, Skripal, and so many of the government lines are pure conspiracy hypotheses – one step further away from Kansas than my take!

The Real and Original David , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:29 am GMT
Ron here reveals himself as a paid agent of the Chinese government.

One of many China shills who are popping up in "alt media" as well as the MSM.

Disappointing, but as they say, never trust a Jew.

refl , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:37 am GMT
Thanks for this first attempt to dig through the growing tale of corona. However, as we are still in the fog of war, there can be no more then a preliminary assessment.

My take is still that Corona is far less of a threat then commonly believed, and that it has been deliberately saddled with diverse agendas, so in any countries the leadership have no interest in telling the truth.
1) I think there is sufficient proof that need not be repeated, and
2) it is better for everyones' mental health not to believe in killer viruses that force us to abdicate even our most basic freedoms.

I believe that either a) the Chinese leadership thought that they were being attacked and undertook their lockdown in good faith, or b) they played an outright GAMBIT to force western countries into their own, more economically damaging lockdowns. The clue would be that China is so strong that it can weather the blow, while Europe and to a lesser extend the US cannot.

The director of the Chinese CDC, Dr Gao was part of Event 201 and studied in Oxford. Are there dual loyalties in China? And then, in which direction?
Possibly, something minor was indeed released as a bioweapon, before, calculably, western government incompetence and hysteria took over. I also believe that Israel used corona as a screen for biowarfare-targeted killings in Iran, whose case is definitely a story apart.
The Russian lockdown can be explained by the serious assumption that if they did not lock down they would be accused as the authors of a biowarfare attack on the US. At this point, antirussian hostility in the West is so severe that they had to comply!

The coordinated actions across opposed political systems CAN be explained, and it does not take a nutter to do it.

Now, let's see, if this comment gets through.

no bat soup for you , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:42 am GMT
and the hong kong flu, the asian flu, SARS classic, H5N1?

think horses not zebras ron. densely populated country with disgusting and satanic dietary practices.

maybe a country where people eat dogs should be dusted with anthrax.

Mary Marianne , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:43 am GMT
Excellent analysis on the workings of American propaganda and disinformation war in the context of COVID-19.
John Wear , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:47 am GMT
Dr. Andrew Kaufman, MD says there is no proven test for COVID-19. The PCR test given only tests for genetic material and not for the COVID-19 virus. Dr. Kaufman's interview is at
https://truthcomestolight.com/2020/04/10/dr-andy-kaufman-on-understanding-what-the-covid-19-tests-are-all-about-why-the-lockdown-has-nothing-to-do-with-a-pandemic/ .
Biff , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:48 am GMT
The majority of the American public still believe that a small group of Islamic fundamentalists wielding only box cutters atomized the World Trade Center into dust – in a cartoonish act of sorcery. If the lie is so big it has to become believable – that amount of cognitive dissonance is simply just too much to bear. An already duped population of such magnitude doesn't have much of a chance of coming out of this kind of stupor, especially under the bubble of the most powerful propaganda machine in the history of propaganda, therefore, I don't think this story is going to go anywhere.
Casual Observer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:49 am GMT
Hi Ron! Your article for me is a breath of fresh air! Amidst what you accurately call the fog of war it has been very hard to discern precisely what is going on in regards to this virus situation. It's been extremely difficult to assert the "truth" or the "red pill" as some call it when it comes to this pandemic. For that reason in fact, I would caution everyone that cares about having a well calibrated "perception" sensor to tread with extreme caution when it comes to this topic, as there isn't nearly enough evidence in any direction to assume one theory over another. Faithfully adopting any one theory at the moment can only lead you to become the equivalent of a 9/11 truther (the kind that obsesses about missiles, physics, instead of the paper trail leading directly to Israel and Saudi Arabia).

Having said that there are just too many statistical improbabilities to simply brush aside the Bioweapon possibility. I know quite a few influential figures in the alternative media have unequivocally rejected all Bioweapon theories (specially the theory that the US/Israel could ever conspire to spread a bioweapon) which is why I am very glad to see someone of your Intellectual authority provide a credible well thought-out case supporting this increasingly unpopular position (even in alternative circles). I get it, there is ZERO evidence to show the US/Israel or even China are behind covid-19. But there is equally ZERO evidence to support the official story (which is completely ridiculous until they provide more details) about the guy that supposedly ate the covid bat.

With that disclaimer I will freely speculate below but keep in mind this is all conjecture:

1. Anyone that claims is "impossible" for the US to let lose a bioweapon that would destroy the US economy and kill Americans for the sake of hurting their "perceived" enemies more needs to seriously examine EVERYTHING we know about the rulers of the American empire. The first obvious question is who exactly rules the American empire? Are they righteous rulers that make decisions based on what is best for the American people? The answer to this question is a clear and resounding NO. The rulers of America follow a religion that states anyone that is not part of their tribe is "cattle" and dispensable. On this grounds alone the Rulers of America would have very little issue releasing a virus that kills (mostly) "cattle" Americans. And then comes to "why would they tank their own economy" objection. To this objection I'll simply point out that AMERICA IS RULED through financial coercion. A crisis is very good for the rulers of America because they get to FURTHER consolidate their power over America. Gaining more power over America, hurting your geopolitical rivals and ultimately using the panic and confusion to pass draconian and more authoritarian rules are all INCENTIVES for American elites to release a bioweapon.

Lastly, to everyone that says it's impossible for the American elites to tank their economy and/or kill Americans in order to achieve a political objective has forgotten about 9/11! Our current rulers in Tel-Aviv paid a few saudi mercenaries to fly two airplanes into the twin towers to kill a few thousands of people in order to go to war! Of course the atrocity does not end there. A lot more Americans died as consequence of 9/11, even more were affected economically and even a lot more lost civil liberties and standing in American society. Right then and there you have a blatant and relatively recent event that almost word for word matches the consequences of this virus. Considering this as a possible escalation of tactics by the US/Israel against their enemies is a possibility. The US did drop the nuke of an innocent, already defeated enemy. What makes anyone so sure this is beyond their "moral code"

2.China decides to strongly stick by Iran, suddenly the Hong Kong protest springs out of control, 50 percent of their pork is wiped out by a weird disease and now of course, the mother of all "unforeseen" events kick starts a cascade of negative consequences for China.

This is by far the most alarming set of "coincidences" of all. I remember last year reading the Iran-China saga, as the Chinese refused to stop buying Iranian oil even as Japan stopped buying oil after a Japanese tanker "coincidentally" was hit by a bomb in the Persian gulf. Soon enough (if I am recalling correctly) a strange disease wipes out 50% of Chinese pork causing possible food insecurity. Then came the Hong Kong riots that although started for very legit reasons by the people of Hong Kong, soon enough had full on CIA spooks speaking in the US congress, attacking people on the streets of Hong Kong! Lastly against all odds these horrible events are somewhat weathered China and suddenly we have a pandemic that not only damages China in the world stage, but serves as the perfect excuse to possibly sanction, attack and possibly destabilize china.

Maybe I am completely paranoid or skeptical, but what are the chances of such a string of events? Is there some data I am not privy to that can explain some of these coincidences? Is there something to Chinese cultural norms that could explain these strange viruses literally wrecking their economy and political stability? What are the chances all of these viruses occur in a very short period and their severity and consequences directly correlated to China's defiance of US orthodoxy on Iran/US hegemony?

Unlike some people here, I do not share the opinion that the Chinese government is some sort of Angel or ideological ally. They are a government that ultimately acts on it's interests and it's full of flaws (including exerting degrees of tyranny on their own people). Having said that you don't have to be a communist to notice how strange this sequence of events truly is. Bad things keep happening to China as it opposes US Hegemony. It might even be statistically impossible for some of these things to happen by "chance", but maybe China is just really unlucky, right?

Other Side , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 7:57 am GMT
" 1999 NATO air war against Serbia to protect Bosnian muslims "

It was actually war over Kosovo albanians .

Sean , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:02 am GMT

But I do think that a careful exploration of previous Sino-American clashes over the last couple of decades may provide some useful insight into the relative credibility of those two governments as well as that of our own media.

During the Korean war, China used their Cats Paw North to invade the South then the Chinese army intervened under the pretense of being volunteers. Although Chinese ground troops were not directly involved, Vietnam was otherwise a rerun of Korea with China not only defeating the US but forcing it to cease isolating China. Carter issued a presidential order for officials to aid Chinese growth., and within a few decades as the internal unrest Western pundits predicted failed to amount to much, it became obvious that China's growth was at the expense of the workers of the US made jobless and suffering deaths of despair not least by illegal synthetic opioids from China. But then, by the begining of new millennium all manufacturing was in China, including the burgeoning fortunes of the already wealthy, who rose on a high tide of inequality. If history was any guide a new Gilded Age must end with a visit from the Four Horsemen. Pressaged by the appearance of the SARS-CoV virus eighteen years before, SARS-CoV-2 appears likely to end China's run of successes, because of the disruption it has caused to the US.

"The closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus named RaTG13, "However, RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared and the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change."

The important thing about the SARS-CoV-2 virus is not its lethality, which is about an order of magnitude less than the original SARS-CoV of 2002, but rather SARS-CoV-2's extreme transmissibility which is two orders of magnitude greater than its predecessor's. Anthony Fauci warned the incoming US government administration in January 2017 of a newly mutated coronavirus with extreme transmissibility and, apart from the greatly reduced lethality of the massively more contagious SARS-CoV-2 virus, that is exactly what happened.

Unlike other nations, China had had no advance warning of the nature or existence of the deadly new disease, and therefore faced unique obstacles.

They had the WHO and Fauci's public statements. Much more usefully China had the 2002 epidemic, caused by SARS-CoV which originated in China that year. In Singapore, there were 238 cases and 33 deaths from the SARS outbreak, in 2015 the worlds largest MERS-CoV outbreak occurred in South Korea, and only the other year Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said it was only a matter of time before Singapore had its first MERS-CoV case, so they had to be well prepared. These countries were all set up and waiting to eradicate a disease just like COVID-19.

A decision by elements of our national security establishment to wage biological warfare in hopes of maintaining American world power would certainly have been an extremely reckless act

Excuse me? With the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus having a puny death rate yet colossal infectiousness a centralised authoritarian state like China would be relatively speaking best able to suppress it. A bioweapon would be tested on Whites as well as Chinese before being released. There is no way in Hell that they would not understand that releasing the SARS-CoV-2 virus in China would result in it sweeping through the US.

thotmonger , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:10 am GMT
If an "out-of-control disease epidemic occurring in the Wuhan area" back in November 2019 was the same corona virus, then toss the idea it was intentionally timed to mess with the Chinese New Year in 2020. But then figure the deaths in China have been greatly under reported. Furthermore, China may well have allowed carriers to travel abroad, especially to USA once the outbreak was well under way.

However, as regards the whole biocrime aspect of the corona virus pandemic we really cannot rely much on either US government/media or the Chinese. And if it was a bioweapon, who among "us" would be so keen to target Iran where over ten percent of their parliament got sick very early on? That is an Israel First kind of agenda. Or maybe it was Japan? Good investigators keep an open mind.

Note (This is not a subject change) Over the last several decades the American public health system has regularly failed to adequately warn our citizens about the causes and risks of numerous epidemics that have claimed many millions of lives. Or were all sugar drenched foods advertised as "Fat Free" really a "healthy choice"? So I do not quite understand why Ron Unz considers the corona virus the one instance of stellar government incompetence, as if to imply the current lock down has not nearly severe enough?!? Thank god he did not invoke the party line panacea of the Gates vaccine!

Meanwhile, what about Kushner's fast tracking mass surveillance? Will it only be temporary? Will it only be used for containing CV19? Ha. Let's all step in the van with the nice man who will give us a teddy bear

On top of this alleged biocrime, examples are abounding where the opportunists are eager to grab more power, and make killings of a sort, not least of which are the banks, Wall Street and the war mongers.

Remember, the farther the tide goes out, bigger the tsunami that charges back in.

dimples , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:15 am GMT
I don't buy it. If the US was going to go to the extreme length of releasing a highly contagious virus into the territory of its new Deep State certified arch-enemy China, the risk of contagioning yourself is extremely high. Especially with global trade and travel as it is these days. Preparations would have been made in advance to make sure it would not blow back by putting appropriate people and methods in place. Its too easy to blame incompetence for this oversight.

If you're looking for plotters, look no further than Wall St. They are making out like bandits in the latest bailout.

The_seventh_shape , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:26 am GMT
The chronology is indeed telling. Strange that the MSM never thought to ask how the DIA could have known such a thing.

Let's hope this teaches the deep state not to fool around with viruses anymore.

dimples , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:27 am GMT
@dimples Unless of course the blow back is a feature and not a bug, which it must be admitted, it usually is. If the US economy takes an enormous hit due to blow back, which it has, then China is set up as the next ultra-bad guy to replace Russia, Russia Russia!. It then becomes the new fixation of the Deep State's wet dreams, a new Cold War where plenty of money goes down the toilet into the MIC's pockets and plenty of opportunity for the heroic Special Ops types to keep the Hollywood grist mill grinding.
threestars , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:32 am GMT
This is by far the most one-sided and far-fetching article I've read in the American Pravda series. Very disappointing, to say the least.

For example, Mr. Unz linked the below article about Tiananmen square:

https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php

The original source went to great lengths to make it clear a massacre did in fact occur that night/morning, only it was taking place in other areas of Beijing and the victims were mostly protesting workers, not students. (At least 300 of them, by Chinese official figures.) A person reading Unz's summary will come out believing this did not take place, although the Chinese themselves don't really deny it did.

Pheasant , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:42 am GMT
'Zerohedge a popular right-wing conspiracy website'

How dissapointing Ron Unz.

You should consider what people say about this website.

dimples , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:43 am GMT
@dimples This is a reasonable view in my opinion. If you look at previous US false flag events, they come at periods when new directions are needed to perpetuate the US war machine's supposed usefulness. The 1990 Gulf War was clearly a set up that came just as the old Cold War was ending and prepared the way for 911 and the Iraq War, which capitalized on the US bases that had been set up during the Gulf War.

Currently the Russia, Russia Russia! narrative is petering out. The US Deep State wants to perpetuate it but the Euros don't really want a war with Russia, a huge market for them. So continuation of Russia Russia Russia! risks a split with the Euros.

But China, a nice new up and coming enemy there. Yum yum. So Covid-19 could be a US false flag effort in that direction it has to be admitted. Damage to US economy? Who cares, the Deep State doesn't. Its immune, rolling as it does in government loot.

interesting , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:49 am GMT
My issue with the 'it's not china's fault"argument revolves around the secrecy in the beginning. And then the arrests of those sounding the alarm inside China. One would think that if this was from elsewhere the CCP would be screeching bloody murder from day one NOT trying to downplay it and outright lie about it. Didn't China use the same playbook with SARS? Silence and then misdirection.

my .02

Ghali , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 8:51 am GMT
The actual number is 43000 dead Americans. The China narrative lacks hard evidence. There is mounting evidence that COVID-19 pandemic originated in the U.S. and may have been a terror attack perpetuated by the U.S., which is pursuing a massive expansion of biological weapons program. According to scholar Kevin Barrett: "It also may be a coincidence that the primary U.S. bioweapons lab, Fort Detrick, was shut down in summer 2019 over fears that weaponized pathogens might escape. It may be a coincidence that absurdly under-performing U.S. military athletes came to Wuhan for the World Military Games in October and have since been accused by China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs of being the source of the COVID-19 pandemic. It may be a coincidence that at the same time those 'athletes' were in Wuhan, the World Economic Forum, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Johnson & Johnson, and other Establishment titans were hosting a pandemic simulation called Event 201".

Furthermore, "It may be purely coincidental that the virus appeared in Wuhan, home of China's biggest biodefense laboratory, and China's biggest transportation hub, just in time for the Chinese New Year, when most Chinese travel to visit relatives. Likewise, it could be coincidental that the real-life COVID-19 pandemic almost perfectly mimics Lockstep, the Rockefeller Foundation's recipe for a global police state emerging on the back of a coronavirus-style pandemic", added Kevin Barrett. The U.S. regime unleashed this disease on the world, and the U.S. regime has to be held accountable.

JEinCA , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:07 am GMT
Mr. Unz my fellow Californian,

Your suspicions on this matter echo my own. I remember the Russian Government warning a few years back that Western NGO's inside Russia had been discovered to be collecting DNA samples of Russian citizens and that it was the opinion of the Russian Intelligence Services that this information was being collected ny Western Intelligence Services for the purpose of future biological warfare. When this outbreak in China made international news I remembered the warning from the Russian Government. Then came the outbreak in Iran that killed many Iranian political figures. Quite a damned coincidence if there ever was one?

If you ever run for state or national office and are on the ballot (or not) herr in California you have my vote.

Veritas vos Liberabit!

Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:11 am GMT
@Ozymandias You're totally right!

Look at a very partial list of the Chinese history of lying, almost by habit, just in the last two decades alone!

China lied in 1999 about "massacres" committed by Serbia and bombed Belgrade to set up the narcomafia organ-smuggling so called state of "Kosovo".

China lied about Saddam Hussein having WMDs and invaded Iraq in 2003.

China lied about "imminent massacres" and "Viagra rape" in Libya in 2011, and deliberately misused a UN Security Council resolution to bomb and destroy that country and hand it over to slave trading jihadi headchopper gangs.

China lied about Syria using chemical weapons from 2013 onwards, armed and trained and financed terrorist gangs, conducted missile strikes on the country, and continues to occupy and steal oil from East Syria.

China organised a blatant Nazi coup in Ukraine in 2014 and lied about it being a "popular democratic revolution".

China murdered Iran's top general Qassem Soleimani in 2020 and lied about him being about to conduct terrorist attacks when he was actually on a peace mission.

With just this partial list of Chinese lies in the last two decades alone, who would believe anything China has to say?!?!?

animalogic , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:30 am GMT
Interesting article.
Especially, interesting for me, the aggressive arrest of a Harvard Prof' of chemistry for technical irregularities in Grant paperwork, coincidentally at the time the virus emerges. (we assume he personally wrote up those applications ? Imagine if everyone who had written up a Grant application, which contained an error or two, in the US were to be dragged off in chains by the FBI ? )
And also interesting the Belgrade Chinese embassy attack -- Mr Unz's materials put it in a totally new perspective for me.
Google , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:36 am GMT
I suspect US gov been planning this attack for years. SARS outbreak in 2003, I suspect, was a test, to test Chinese gov's response to bio attack. Note that SARS virus and the current covid-19 virus aren't that different to be considered different viruses, hence covid-19 also known as SARS-2. But the difference, SARS-1 had "kill switch", it wouldn't be able to infect humans after a while.

During 2003 SARS, China acted swiftly causing the virus to be contained within China and according to US gov simulation, covid-19 should've been the same, contained within China. But China didn't act as swiftly as expected, causing the virus leaking back to US, this is why US gov is furious, had China acted earlier, the virus wouldn't travel back to US.

The killing of Iranian general, it wasn't act of recklessness, it was diversion, so that the Iran gov would be occupied by it while ignoring coronavirus spreading silently in their country.

Anonymous [499] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:39 am GMT
Ron, my friend (sort of), if you think you have trouble now what with COVID-1, impending national bankruptcy, and a general flow of information that seems to have been some of the most creative fiction in our lives, just wait until you manage to invite China into US civil disputes. Our present difficulties are as nothing compared difficulties subsequent to direct Chinese involvement in civil matters.
Historically, third party intervention quite often leads to foreign domination. Examples: US in Afghanistan, US in Iraq (twice). Both time, native citizens thought it a great idea to invite the US in.
And why do I say this? Well, you're presenting China as morally wronged. In your frame of reference, that's an absolute, more important than anything else. But it's not the only interpretation. Perhaps China committed an act of war by giving tactical help to the Serbs. Perhaps that violation became severe when China gathered F117A wreckage. Perhaps China is lucky that bombing the embassy was all that happened, and we are all lucky that things did not escalate. This is actually less of a fantasy than your account, which is at best a bit one sided, almost a "point and sputter".

In the US, such accounts are the precursor to advocacy. You should consider carefully the consequences of advocacy in this case.

Anonymous [362] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:43 am GMT
America was finally returning to a regular peacetime economy, with the benefits apparent to

the everyone

everyone

China seemed unsuccessful in its initial efforts to halt the spread of the disease using convention methods.

conventional

the response to this global health crisis of by China and most East Asian countries

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Jason Crew , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:46 am GMT
While I think the first part of the article is very interesting, and I acknowledge the theoretical benefits that could exist from the US using COVID as a bioweapon, I find the argument unpersuasive for the following reasons:

Obvious blowback : If the US infected China with a highly spreadable disease, why did we not put in more aggressive measures to stop it from spreading in the US? Otherwise, what's the point of hurting your enemy if you also get hurt? If the US was going to attack China with a bioweapon, why would they not engineer a genetic/ethnic bioweapon that targeted Han Chinese, as oppose one that could also kill everyone? Seeing the economic damage this has done to us, it seems unlikely that such a contagious weapon would be the one an actor would pick, as it would risk damaging their own homeland.

China has always been a hotbed of disease : A third of China's history has them facing an epidemic of some sort. The 1957 "Asian flu" , 1968 "Hong Kong flu" and 1977 "Russian flu" all started in China. The black death probably started in China. Seems far more likely that recent disease outbreaks are part of a historic trend, or gross Chinese conditions, rather than a bioweapon attack.

Ayatollah Smith , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:47 am GMT
On April 11, 2020, Gilad Atzmon published here an excellent article titled "A Viral Pandemic or A Crime Scene?", in which he suggests circumstances have now created 'a paradigm change' in the perception of the current viral pandemic.

https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/a-viral-pandemic-or-a-crime-scene/

He states: "Since we do not know its provenance, we should treat the current epidemic as a potentially criminal act as well as a medical event. We must begin the search for the perpetrators who may be at the centre of this possible crime of global genocidal proportions." I concur.

All Americans (and others) who believe in China's culpability for the emergence of this virus, should welcome such an investigation. And Mr. Pompeo, who so firmly plants the full responsibility on China's doorstep, would receive vindication of his claims. I believe that the governments and the people of China, Italy, Spain, France, and Iran, especially would like to know the results of such a criminal investigation.

All nations of the world should band together now, and proceed jointly with this endeavor. It needn't be approached with presumption of cause or intent, but simply to uncover the entire truth of this event. That will be sufficient, and it is possible the results of this worldwide investigation will prompt others into similar past events which have to date gone unquestioned and unexamined.

I believe there are yet many truths about COVID-19 (and many other epidemics) still to emerge. Perhaps one of the many people with personal knowledge of the source and method of distribution will be sufficiently brave to come forward, perhaps another Edward Snowdon or Chelsea Manning. We will then see how truly the US treasures its whistle-blowers.

**

The US needs to answer this question: HOW could US 'intelligence sources' possibly have known in November – or even October – of a potential pandemic of COVID-19 that would erupt – specifically in Wuhan – two months later? (Or that was already erupting in Wuhan at the time, unbeknownst to the Chinese?). I believe the entire world would demand the answer to this.

**

In early March the US government declared as classified all COVID-19 information, with all communication to be rerouted through the White House and coordinated with NSC officials. Only specified individuals with security clearance are permitted to attend secret meetings, with no mobile phones or computers allowed. Excluded staff members claimed they were told virus information was classified "because it had to do with China". The US needs to explain the need for such extreme secrecy (while condemning China for lack of transparency), and how coping with a domestic virus epidemic would involve China.

China, Italy, and several other nations in Asia and Europe have documented proof that COVID-19 was circulating in their populations for several months before the outbreak in Wuhan. And there are many, many reports, including from physicians, that infections in the US were occurring as early as September, of 2019. These claims are too numerous, too detailed, and too similar to be ignored. Japanese TV and press documented that Japanese tourists returning from Hawaii were coming home infected with COVID-19 in September.

Why was Dr. Helen Chu issued a threatening "cease and desist" order to stop testing nasal swabs her flu research team had taken in Washington State from October 2019 onward? The only possible result would be to prevent the knowledge emerging that the virus had already been circulating months earlier. As a rule, the reason we don't ask a question privately is because we already know the answer, and the reason we don't ask the question publicly is because we don't want anyone else to know the answer.

The US government needs to address the now-certain existence of the virus being widespread in America and much of the world from September, 2019.

Z-man , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:54 am GMT
Your globalists and anti American tendencies come out in the first part and the last few paragraphs of your piece. I didn't read most of the rest of your long winded article.
Bottom line, the Chinks infected the world whether by incompetence or deliberately. They then intimidated the world with their economic might and with the help of their lackeys in the WHO and the PC/shit lib elite in the West to keep the flow of infected people to keep coming into the West. Italy is the tragic example but you can include the rest of the West including America where that old bag Nancy Pe-lousy was celebrating in China Town in late February.
They, the PRC, should be made to pay reparations.
NoLock , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:56 am GMT
Not to dismiss Ron Unz's reasoning outright, but it has been claimed that the virus cannot be the product of direct genomic manipulation.

That's barring any breakthrough in genomic manipulation techniques, a breakthrough that would have to be kept secret. What these scientists have said is that publicly available techniques would have left traces in the viruses genome. They claim that any such traces are absent from the virus's genome.

If that holds up, then the only remaining possibility would be a virus that was bred. It could have been bred by taking the bat virus and passing it through other types of animals, selecting for increased virulence. It has been claimed that ferrets would fit the bill since they have the same ACE2 receptor as humans. Ferrets are easy to handle under laboratory conditions.

If the US deep state did something like this, then their reasoning would have to be on what lines? "Let's take this virus that we have bred to dock very easily onto the human ACE2 receptor and set it loose on the Chinese. The virus will devastate them will they still be able to contain it – so that there won't be too much blow back."

Maybe they misjudged the product of their virus enhancement effort. Still, it needs be kept in mind what presuppositions have to be put in place for the blow back theory to work.

Godfree Roberts , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:56 am GMT

I tend to doubt that Chinese leaders have any overwhelming commitment to the truth, and the reasons for their greater veracity are probably practical ones.

Their reasons are extremely practical:

1. In the absence of national elections they are free to make realistic promises. Since they have kept every promise they've made to date they have an investment in staying honest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-year_plans_of_China ,

2. In the absence of factions like our Republicans and Democrats, there's no-one to blame or pass the buck to, nor lie competitively, nor attack proposed or existing policies. There's no 'them,' there's only 'us.'

3. The Chinese have always been willing to make sacrifices now for benefits later, which incentivizes being honest up front.

4. Telling the truth is cheaper in the long run, which is one reason China has the cheapest government on earth.

5. People are much more willing to cooperate with truth-tellers. Governing is infernally difficult and being truthful makes it vastly easier.

6. Straight talk, especially from leaders, is attractive (Trump's appeal to his base is that he occasionally blurts out something true). Asked on TV how it felt to be President, Xi said, "People who have little experience with power–those who are far from it–tend to regard politics as mysterious and exciting. But I look past the superficialities, the power, the flowers, the glory, the applause. I see the detention houses, the fickleness of human relationships. I understand politics on a deeper level." Imagine an American politician talking like that.

7. Smart people tell the truth more often than dumb people. People out of their intellectual and experiential depth, which our politicians usually are, tend to lie. The average IQ of China's top 5,000 political leaders is 140 and all of them have 25 years successful governing experience. They're professionals who are less likely to lie than your brain surgeon.

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hs4691506 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 9:57 am GMT
@Otto von Komsmark I've read the Chinese are proud that they'll "eat everything under the sun". China is a very old culture. People might have differing opinions, but I think it strange that now we have all these cross-overs from the animal kingdom.
hs4691506 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:02 am GMT
@animalogic I think it was Zero-hedge that said the professor lied about his Chinese funding, making him in effect an agent of China. That's not some burocratic form error.
I think the article is a good summary but the author is also guilty of embellishment. For example, he used the word "concerted" at least twice, when he has no proof of that.
Anonymous [108] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:02 am GMT
Having grown up with in the University of Chicago South Side Chicago neighborhood , then lived in racial, criminal, immigration anarchy New York City 1985-91
, I m rarely if ever surprised about national or international events. The seemingly incomprehensible views and policies of American, diaspora, Neo Conservative, Hollywood,Wall Street Jews makes sense in awful ways:

They hate us – want us replaced

Madeline Albright (How did this ugly woman from Central Europe get to be USA Secretary of State? Why did she demand bombing the sh&$ out of the Serbs to creat a Muslim beach head in Central Europe ? What is she ? Catholic? Episcopalian Christian? Oh she s Jewish again but wants to convert to Islam to protest President Trump s proposed Muslim immigration plan).

I look at this Chinese Kung Flu Coronavirus and just note how sensible nationalist governments/societies in Japan, Taiwan, Hungary, Slovakia and of course Israel handle it:

Strict, zero tolerance immigration, student visas from Coronavirus plague infected areas – also no millions of Muslim young male migrants.

Pretty much no one in these sensible nationalist societies care if Jews at the SPLC, The Atlantic Magazine, or National Review, CPAC or the Wall Street Journal scream that they are:

RACISTS
FASCISTS
NAZIS

It s probably too late in my life to try to learn Hungarian or Japanese.

But I think I/we should all try to learn translations of :

"Shut up Jews"

"Support Israel the homeland of the Jews so go home"

Life isn t complicated .

It s the same with terrible Black AA ga g murders in my Chicago . same with TB, bubonic plague heroin addicts street people in LA's Skid Row, Gypsy no go places in Romania or France.

Life isn t complicated .

brabantian , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:20 am GMT
From Ron Unz's article linked above on the Canadian kidnapping of the Huawei billionaire's daughter, Ron himself said something which points to the perhaps deeper truth here

In that piece our host Ron suggested that the clear best course for China, was to put the squeeze on USA Jewish billionaire and political king-maker Sheldon Adelson, the big political funder of Trump and US Republicans etc Adelson being the casino king of Macau who earns most of his billions there under Chinese authority, Adelson being able to get the Huawei exec released with just a phone call to Trump, if Chinese would just walk into Sheldon's casinos and threaten shutdown

China never moved to touch Sheldon's businesses in China, and as I said at the time, this is because of the deeper frightening truth, that the big powers tend to work together behind the scenes, even whilst in public disputes, like high school football teams in rivalry

Chinese media accuse the US of creating a bio-weapon, US media accuses China of the same, the classic rivalry of Orwell's 1984

Both governments share motives of culling pensioners as covid-19 does; distracting from incipient collapse of excessive economic debt; establishing greater elite surveillance and control; and enabling elites to buy and own ever larger sectors of global economic life; in other words the classic 'NWO' of conspiracy talk.

Half a century ago, Antony Sutton proved that 1940s-1970s USA had been transmitting tech to the old Soviet Union (often via Israel), to create the 'Best Enemy Money Can Buy' the Cold War was essentially fake, and Putin came out of that, and continues trading favours with the USA Putin doesn't question 9-11, USA doesn't question false flags in Chechnya etc

Sites like the 'Secret Life of Jews in China' show how European Jews were part of China's Mao revolution, even becoming politburo members Chabad centres abound in China despite few nominal Jews there, linking hotlines to Jared Kushner's Chabad centre in DC and 'Putin's rabbi' Berel Lazar in Moscow

One has to go one level above the US vs China mudslinging, and consider it is all likely as fake and staged as was US-Soviet rivalry China and the USA may well be working together on covid

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The idea that Covid-19 was a bio-weapon deployed in China by the US visitors to the late 2019 military games, was promoted early on by Veterans Today (VT) where Unz's Kevin Barrett hails from. VT is a website widely-read by world governments, despite its partly kooky and ridiculous articles about space aliens etc

Gordon Duff, co-chief of VT, said out loud in a radio interview – where he also outed himself with a chuckle as a 'self-hating Jew' – that 30% of the material on his site is intentionally false and ridiculous, as the price he must pay for publishing true 'intel drops' without getting shut down / murdered by the US gov't in intel-speak, this is called 'poisoning the well', you publish the most damning truths on self-discrediting sites like VT or David Icke, where the typical reader easily dismisses truth because it's published next to articles about space alien lizards ruling planet earth

utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:22 am GMT
@Mustapha Mond Yes, what if the chief objective was not to hurt China by disrupting its society and economy but to make the whole world angry with China. Ron Unz article is the voice crying out in the desert which will not stop the tsunami of memes: WuFlu , China did it , China must pay for our suffering We must punish China. that has been whipped up from the very beginning and only will be getting loader and stronger.

Some of the things you list are to benefit the insiders. No little thing that could bring profit will be left to chance. It is just like when World Trade Center being transferred from Port Authority before 9/11. Was it critical to the operation? Could they get the terror event if WTC was not owned by Larry Silverstein? Yes, they could but few extra bucks could have been made with Larry Silverstein being the front man. Or just when American troops were entering Bagdad, who and when organized special outfits who systematically were visiting Bagdad museum and looting it according to the shopping list?

Ron Unz is underestimating their evil and abilities.

anon [146] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:22 am GMT
@Ozymandias If "they" were going to do such a thing, how would they go about it, and what would have been their thinking?

Deliberately engineered biological agents can often be detected by careful analysis of the pathogen's genome. Bioinformatic programs can detect odd sequences that shouldn't belong; the chances of a purely natural explanation for the inclusion of some sequences are rare, for instance. Let's say I wanted to create a super virus capable of destroying humanity. One obvious way to do this would be to take viral sequences from certain dangerous pathogens and combine them into one. That might do the job, but obviously there is a risk that comes along with doing with that: current sequencing and bioinformatic techniques may quickly discover such an act and invite retaliation by the victim. " That shouldn't be there! " If half of China started dying of a mysterious virus composed of sequences from various unrelated viruses, then obviously there is an attack underway because the chances of such elements coming together in nature is very low, practically zero. A response would likely follow in short order.

Is there a way around this? Maybe.

There are several odd things about Sars2 (Covid-19) that I haven't seen before: 1) it spreads in contravention to how -- some -- previous viruses we've dealt with in recent memory have spread. Specifically, there are a higher-than-expected number of cases are transmitted before the patient become symptomatic with this virus. This is why initial airport screenings failed to stop the virus from entering the United States, aside from lax screening*. In the past, most of these viruses like MERS and SARS weren't particularly contagious when the infected carriers were asymptomatic, so simply checking their body temperature with a thermometer and following up with contact tracing was enough to stop the spread. 2) unlike both SARS and MERS, this virus is remarkably contagious for a novel pathogen, even moreso than the flu 3) this virus may have a very long asymptomatic phase, up to two weeks in some people. One explanation is that something similar is true of other viruses that cause the common cold and the flu but we haven't really noticed it before because those viruses are comparatively less lethal. If you believe in a conspiracy, on the other hand, this would be a feature deliberately engineered to ensure maximum transmission.

Elements of the conspiracy:

1. This outbreak happened just before Donald Trump's reelection campaign got underway and during crucial trade negotiations. Maybe they wanted to put pressure on the Chinese government to increase Trump's chances of getting reelected. His approval ratings according to 538 have been stuck in the low to mid 40s for essentially his entire presidency. He needs a consistent approval rating above 47% or so to ensure a high chance of reelection.

2. This happened just after a failed Hong Kong color revolution by youthful protestors. Many of the signs held by protesters included the kinds of things a boomer FBI agent might think would curry favor with the 4chan crowd -- pepe the frog, various slogans. It failed, in part, because that crowd didn't buy it. Hong Kong protestors were relentlessly mocked on some alt-right websites as morons wanting to deliver their people the "freedom" enjoyed by the West: dozens of genders, speech laws, feminism The case of a Canadian waxing salon being forced to wax a male-to-female transgendered person's genitals was prominently used to mock Hong Kong protesters demanding Western freedom.

Conspiracy:

The CIA may have bred a virus to be easily transmissible but much less lethal than the original SARS virus that made the headlines years ago. They may have expected the virus to spread quickly in China and panic the Chinese population, undermining faith in the government so the CIA could once again try to overthrow their rival. They never expected it to come back on them.

If one were going to create a viral agent guaranteed to escape detection as an artificial construction, one might do the following: take a known virus indigenous to the targeted area and breed it in animals native to the area (bats) so that it spreads undetected until symptoms present while having a traceable lineage when examined with bioinformatic software / select it against human tissue samples in vitro so that in infects human cells easily.

The former technique might leave behind a tale tell signature: the virus has a long incubation time within the host. Why? Well, some animals have lower resting body temperatures than humans. This can affect which pathogens are able to infect them. Pathogens that have evolved to replicate at one temperature may not replicate very well under another one. Animals like opossums and hibernating bats are less likely to die from rabies infection, for instance, because they have lower body temperatures, among other factors. Humans and dogs are not so lucky because both have higher body temperatures where the virus can replicate more easily. It's sort of strange how SARS2 (Covid-19) takes so long to clear in some patients -- up to two weeks or more. Maybe this occurs because, despite being able to easily infect human cells, it replicates poorly at first because it is adapted to bats, which often have a lower resting body temperature. Although, it is possible this could occur naturally as well.

The latter can be done by infecting cell cultures in dishes and examining which cultures became infected and to what degree. This can be done by measuring viral titers -- dilute extracted cell culture liquid, filter out cells and bacteria, apply diluted mixes to new cultures, examine results, selected superior viral lines for continued manipulation. There are lots of ways to set this up. Maybe you tag your viral proteins with a florescent protein and examine after some period of time; the more virus that is being made, the stronger the signal. Select that particular culture and continue.

Point: there are lots of ways to do this, some pretty simple (but probably expensive, dangerous, and time-consuming nonetheless -- which is why dumb Middle Eastern terrorists haven't tried it so far). The important thing is that such a set up would avoid including obviously unnatural elements that could never be explained by random chance -- the inclusion of sequences from other viruses, for example. This might come off looking natural, even if remaining mysterious to the outside observer.

*The American government was warned about this virus but didn't take it seriously. Explanation 1: Trump and his advisers are greedy imbeciles (more likely). Explanation 2: the American government didn't expect this to be a big deal because they created it to be less lethal than previous viruses, perhaps not understanding that a lower death rate over a larger population would result in higher casualties (less likely).

Americans arriving at JFK from locked-down Italy are shocked by the lack of US screening for coronavirus

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8098819/Americans-arriving-JFK-Milan-say-SHOCKED-no-screening-coronavirus.html

Trump allegedly asked Fauci if officials could let coronavirus 'wash over' US

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492390-wapo-trump-allegedly-asked-fauci-if-officials-could-let-coronavirus

Points against this theory:

1) Trump is a loudmouth and a braggart. If he knew ANYTHING about this, he probably would have let it slip by now. Elements of the British government have had to restrict some information they share with the Americans for fear that Trump would leak it to his friends during his then regular discussions with people over unsecured lines. Would the CIA really do something extraordinary like this without his knowledge?

Points in favor:

1) The UK, a country that often works with the Americans to do nefarious things, didn't take this very seriously, either. They acted as if they didn't expect this to be a big deal. Other countries that usually don't work that closely with US intelligence to the same degree, have taken Covid-19 seriously even if they have failed to contain it. Although, this is probably wrong. The nations that have dealt best with this are the ones that have had lots of previous experience with similar viruses and whose populations are naturally more inclined to work together.

2) The timing and location of the viral outbreak. Isn't Wuhan a major transportation hub?

FB , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT
Excellent piece by Ron Unz

One thing I notice is how crisply written this is, compared to the very dense, plodding style that characterizes much of his previous work

A very good overview of the situation and a thoughtful analysis of the finger pointing that's going on

Regardless of whether the lock down measures have been an overreaction or not, most reasonable people will realize that we may never know what might have been, had we not locked down

Would the health system have been able to cope ?

What would happen when hospitals are overwhelmed by serious respiratory cases ?

China's very forceful reaction now looks absolutely brilliant

That extremely energetic reaction also hints that the Chinese leadership may have suspected an attack

Been_there_done_that , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:26 am GMT

". ..the current accusations by Trump Administration officials that China had attempted to minimize or conceal the serious nature of the disease outbreak is so ludicrous as to defy rationality. "

This assertion is absolutely untrue, as most readers who have followed this story early on will know. You conspicuously left out of your conspiratorial musings the news of the "whistleblower" Wi Leniang, the 34-year old ophthalmologist who had worked at Wuhan Central Hospital, and had already alerted his colleagues late last year about a suspicious viral outbreak, for which he was subsequently arrested and punished by authorities. Millions of people in China are familiar with his tragic story – he eventually died.

On January 9 the World Health Organization released the following press statement, providing sufficient information that would have warranted or obliged the authorities to have immediately closed the Wuhan airport and train station to prevent the contagious spread of the virus to other regions of the world through unwittingly infected carriers.

https://www.who.int/china/news/detail/09-01-2020-who-statement-regarding-cluster-of-pneumonia-cases-in-wuhan-china

Instead, authorities waited two entire weeks before closing the Wuhan airport, during which time the virus spread inevitably to other countries through the many international passenger flights. According to military game theory, such inaction would surely benefit China, which could better deal with an outbreak, whereas most other countries would suffer more severely in comparison. For this reason, regardless whether the release of the presumably engineered virus was released intentionally or accidentally, the Chine government is culpable for having allowed the pandemic to evolve. So at least in this particular case the allegations of the Trump administration are correct.

Your narrative omitted these indisputable facts, which you then denigrated as " so ludicrous as to defy rationality ", yet after a Communist Party meeting in mid-February, some of those responsible for having minimized or concealed the serious nature of the outbreak were officially "demoted" (received a slap on the wrist):

https://www.businessinsider.com/international/analysis-china-hubei-officials-sacked-xi-jinping-protected-2020-2/

Those who praise China's alleged competence in the matter have a dilemma to deal with. Either the authorities are competent, in which case they effectively waged biological warfare against the rest of the world (using incompetence as plausible deniability of intent) in order for their economy to come out ahead, comparatively, in the long run, compared to a situation where only their own economy would have suffered by effective early containment measures; or else they were indeed incompetent, that an accidental release from one of their labs in Wuhan becomes even more plausible than it already is. Either way, the focus of inquiry must remain on China, rather than conducting an exercise in reflexive exoneration. Fantastical insinuations pointing the finger elsewhere, for which no strong evidence has been presented, are just a distraction.

Accidental releases have been known to occur, but apparently only the level-4 lab in Wuhan was known to have been working on enhancing those bat-based viruses with gain of function properties and chimeric qualities.

Your entire conjecture about the strong likelihood of US culpability essentially rests almost entirely on the vague notion of " extreme recklessness ", which in such dangerous matters, as the release of deadly viruses, appears to be significantly less likely, from an analytical perspective, than an accidental release from a biological lab in Wuhan.

Michael888 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:28 am GMT
While your lengthy article shows the possibility that the virus originated in the US and was spread intentionally, with a lot of trust developed by our own Dr. Fauci of the NIAID and $37 million in grants (long before Trump) to study bat coronaviruses in collaboration with China, I think you are missing one important feature.
Trump and his neocon clown car are loathed by the Intelligence Agencies. Unlike Obama, who loved to have the CIA "playing" in his sanctioned, National Emergencies countries (Yemen, Libya, Venezuela, Ukraine, Somalia, South Sudan, Central African Republic, Burundi), backing coups in Egypt, Honduras and the big one, Ukraine, and delighting in droning and expanding Bush's two wars into 7 or 11, depending on how you count, Trump for all his idiotic saber rattling has started no wars; Bolivia is his only coup, Nicaragua his only war-like National Emergency. You may have missed the events of Russiagate and Ukrainegate, built on incompetent spycraft, and an impeachment started by a CIA "whistleblower", but to give Trump credit for something as devious as an obvious CIA op (by your own speculations) seems disingenuous. Much more likely the CIA (whose hubris and incompetence rivals Trump's) likely were running this operation from at least when the first bat coronavirus grants were sent to Wuhan (2011? 2015? I've read both). My guess is the CIA did not even share their brilliant idea with the loathsome Trump, as he would have likely squashed it as he finally did with John Bolton's out-of-control machinations. I think the CIA sees the spectacular failure of their operation as a chance to embarrass and likely overthrow Trump. If they had destroyed the Chinese economy, they would have taken full credit, as it is, they look masterful in re-establishing the Establishment, and ridding themselves of a non-supportive Trump.
9/11 Inside job , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:29 am GMT
Coronavirus catastrophe? Even though the CDC has been accused of exaggerating the number of deaths from the Coronavirus by allowing doctors to assume , without testing ,someone died from it, the number of deaths are not alarming . According to the CDC's provisional statistics posted on April 20,2020 , from February 1 to April 18 ,2020 there were only 15,252 deaths from the Coronavirus out of a total of 603,184 deaths from all causes ,in a US population of 327,167,434 . For the one week ending April 11 there were 5483 COVID-19 deaths and for the one week ending April 18th there were only 568 deaths . cdc.gov . Deaths from the Coronavirus appear to be on the decline in mid-April ,just as they often do in a typical flu season as Spring returns in the Northern hemisphere. As a number of doctors have observed the lockdowns, social distancing and unemployment resulting from the draconian measures taken by Governors across the US are leading to an unprecedented number of cases of depression and suicides.
It is well established,that people who are depressed end up with many types of illnesses due to their compromised immune systems .
The tragedy of the Coronavirus pandemic is ,that as more and more circumstantial evidence comes to light ,it was an engineered crisis or ,as some investigators have termed it ,a planned-demic see, for example, "How to create a fake pandemic"jamesfetzer.org.
Concerned Citizen , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:41 am GMT
Deep and enduring thanks to Ron Unz and his team for this site, an oasis of common sense in a desert of nonsense.

Regarding:

"So if American bio warfare analysts were considering a corona virus attack against China, isn't it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we'd similarly remain insulated from the corona virus? Obviously, such an analysis was foolish and mistaken, but would it have seemed so implausible at the time?"

There might be another possibility. That being that the American plans you outline were formulated and carried out by the deepest, eternally-entrenched portions of the American security state and that "senior administration officials" were simply never consulted about bio warfare efforts against China. Very possibly including those earlier events noted, aimed at Chinese agricultural interests.

Two birds with one stone would be the result: 1) China is (theoretically) taken down by orders of magnitude; 2) That usurping outsider, the ever-disruptive President Trump exits in January, as no incumbent would be judged to have a 2% chance of withstanding the hurricane of events tied to the pandemic's arrival in America.

All the better, then, to allow Trump and other leading American politicians to convincingly lead the chorus against China, and all done with never any possibility of a leak from any political "source" about anything pertaining to the background and planning of the operation.

Implications of such a possibility are too monstrous to consider, so am certain this assertion can't be true. Right?

utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:42 am GMT
@Hail " this whole thing may be a Chinese Communist Party 'Hoax,' in the sense that while the 'new' virus is real (there are always 'new viruses'), the reaction was at least 1000x what was necessary to deal " – The reality parsing by the hoaxers always lead to the discovery of more hoaxes. Check with your guru Kunt Wiitkowski if he was not the one who advised Chines how to pull off the hoax. Didn't he tell them that only 10,000 would have die?
hs4691506 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:49 am GMT
@swamped I, too, doubt that Trump would have been aware of what was going on, this would have been an operation that was kicked off now because if Trump gets re-elected, he'll hopefully clean house, and all that preparation would have been for nothing.

That having been said what's your explanation why Trump did bring a lot of neocons on board, who effectively blocked him. If he really wanted to placate the democrats, there would have surely been hawks who weren't as dangerous as, e.g. Bolton.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:50 am GMT
@Jim Jatras He said back then he thought that. Hasn't expressed his current view. None of us knew back then that the US was dumping pure U238 on Yugoslavia making large parts uninhabitable for a thousand years.
utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:53 am GMT
@refl Ron, we need a new button: Hoaxer
Ayatollah Smith , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:54 am GMT
20.Hail says:

"Checking the Jay Matthews story, I see this: Hundreds of people, most of them workers and passersby, did die that night, but in a different place and under different circumstances."

There is much that Jay Matthews didn't say. Read this:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/tiananmen-square-the-failure-of-an-american-instigated-1989-color-revolution/5690061

29.Christopher Marlowe says:

"Smithfield is owned by a Chinese firm."

It is not. Shuanghui International Holdings Limited, now known as W-H Group, is a private company based in Hong Kong that holds a majority of shares in China's largest meat processor, Shuanghui Foods. The fact that it is based in Hong Kong does not make it "Chinese" in any sense. It is a totally foreign-owned company. The ownership of W-H is mostly American, not Chinese, and Smithfield was involved with the company. It was a complicated kind of reverse takeover, but nothing much of substance changed.

It is the largest pork company in the world, number one in China, the U.S. and much of Europe.

And the effect of the swine flu was to shift production and sales from Shuanghui China to Smithfield in the US.

Sean , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:55 am GMT

China's sweeping Belt and Road Initiative has threatened to reorient global trade around an interconnected Eurasian landmass

By the time of the Antonine Plague of 165 to 180 AD (which surely inspired Aurelius's stoicism, and may have killed Lucius Verus and Marcus Aurelius Antoninus) direct trading links between China and Rome had been established. On March 2019 Italy was the first G-7 country in Europe to become a member in the Chinese Belt and Road project . Did that globalisation reproduced the same pandemic-friendly environment that had decimated Ancient Rome, which rivaled China in population at the time of the Roman diplomatic mission from Marcus Aurelius to the Han Court in 166 AD?

Given these dramatic Chinese actions and the international headlines that they generated, the current accusations by Trump Administration officials that China had attempted to minimize or conceal the serious nature of the disease outbreak is so ludicrous as to defy rationality.

Hardly, because intent is irrelevant. Not discharging their duty to inform the international community in a timely manner of COVID-19 being extremely infectious and not massively exaggerating the infection to death ratio and duping the WHO and modelers like Imperial College into accepting terrifying but bogus infection to death ratios of 1 to 3 0r 4% as Dr. John Ioannidis says in an update ( HERE ) means quite simply that China must never ever be relied on again. Next time, and there probably is going to be another such novel coronavirus at some point in the future, China might overcompensate and downplay something extremely dangerous.

Lieber had had decades of close research ties with China, holding joint appointments and receiving substantial funding for his work. But now he was accused of financial reporting violations in the disclosure portions of his government grant applications -- the most obscure sort of offense -- and on the basis of those accusations, he was seized by the FBI in an early-morning raid on his Cambridge home and dragged off in shackles, potentially facing decades of federal imprisonment.

AS I understand it the case against him was precipitated by indications that he was taking money from the Chinese Government and lying to Federal investigators about it while getting $18 million from the Defence Department. He was not a virologist, unlike professor Montagnier who co-discovered HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus) and received a Nobel prize. He says the SARS-CoV-2 virus is an artificial laboratory created pathogen, which has fragments of–surprise, surprise–HIV in it. He wants his expertise to be relevant to what everyone is currently obsessed with. But life in this crazy old world is not like that. Unless you are Ioannidis.

Parfois1 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 10:57 am GMT
In the early days of the CoV-19 discussion here, a solid body of commenters suggested the strong likelihood of being a US biological attack on China on the basis of its propensity for aggression towards its designated "enemies" by the only method of causing substantial damage to a powerful rival's economy under the cover of plausible deniability. Considering the inevitable demise of the US as the only superpower, it is not beyond the ruling cabal's remit to conceive such schemes to thwart the Chinese economic ascendancy. Yes, the initial suspicions of foul-play were reputational (the US habit of resorting to heinous crimes against other nations) and strategically connected as well (the only way to damage a strong opponent short of an all-out nuclear conflagration with uncertain outcome ).

On the other hand, there were a series of "coincidences" widely discussed here that started giving credence to a full-blown plan of biological attack aimed at the Chinese population by engineering a virus capable to discriminating the target victims. This has been partialled discounted, but not completely until the full sequence of CoV-19 evolution is mapped. Meanwhile, the official narrative has switched to the rejection of the theory of a man-made virus to the "accidental" release by the Wuhan lab, in my view to deflect any effort to research the source of the virus and reinforce the tale of Chinese negligence. But the trouble is that there are many virologists now busy debunking that too and asserting that CoV-19 is unnatural.

I have come across a report on Australian Media Centre where the evolutionary virologist Edward Holmes of the University of Sydney reveals that "the level of genome sequence divergence between CoV-19 and the closest known bat relative in nature is equivalent to 50 years of natural evolutionary change, which suggests that CoV-19 is a synthetic creation in a lab either by insertion of suitable genetic material or, alternatively, growing different cultures in a laboratory with cells with the human ACE2 receptor. This process involves the gradual adaptations to bind the virus with the human receptor by "training" the virus to seek an efficient method of binding by natural random mutations until one progeny hits the jackpot. Although this process does not require insertions by extraneous genetic material (not strict engineering) because the virus itself produces the required adaptations, it is notheless a human interference with the natural world by breeding something for a, obviously, nefarious purpose. The great advantage of this process is to disguise the fact that it is a contrived lab creation.

There are many historically significant events the truth of which will remain hidden for a time. But this case involves a strong player (China) and it will – as wel las many outraged scientists worldwide – leave no stone unturned to reveal the unfathomable depth of the US's den of iniquity.

anon [300] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:02 am GMT
@CanSpeccy

But as this epidemic is shaping up, it is likely that the estimated death toll will be comparable to that of the seasonal flu in a bad year.

That's not correct -- at all. Our hospital system in major cities like New York are NEVER brought to the brink with seasonal flu. The likely number of deaths from Covid-19 has already exceeded the number of deaths estimated from seasonal flu over the past 6 of 10 years -- in just over six weeks. And that's under unprecedented quarantine.

Quoted numbers of deaths are as unreliable as the number of infections.

Numbers do not need to be 100% "reliable" in this case. Many of those who have died have done so in hospital where they have been tested. We can also measure the baseline death rate in NYC. When we do, we find a tremendous daily increase far and above anything caused since 9/11. Clearly, there is something going around that city that is killing lots of people. No flu in recent memory has done that.

Cause of death as stated in a death certificate is often, and even usually, wrong, and during an epidemic caused by a virus that induces respiratory difficulty it is likely that virtually all deaths due to respiratory dysfunction will be attributed to the virus without confirmatory evidence.

This kind of flawed logic could be used to dismiss virtually any epidemic. At some point the number of deaths is so high that no counter argument could reasonably be believed. We've already reached that point. There are only so many respiratory deaths that occur over any time period. Even if we moved 100% from other categories over to Covid-19 we would still find peculiarities in the data.

Deaths in New York City Are More Than Double the Usual Total

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/10/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city.html

Furthermore, virtually all deaths of persons testing positive for covid19 will be attributed to the virus even though the deceased may have had multiple other diseases, any one of which could have been the cause of death.

That's certainly only going to be minor contributory factor. Huge numbers of people above the average baseline don't just magically drop dead from other causes all at the same time. If someone gets Covid-19 and dies, it is reasonable to assume it was the proximate cause in the majority of cases. Only so many people die from X at any one time. If twice that number start dying all at the same time, there is a problem.

"Herd immunity is likely now widespread, so the thing should fizzle out soon, with or without continued population incarceration."

Please do not comment on things you clearly don't understand. It is estimated that no more than a few percent of the American population has been exposed to Sars2 (Covid-19). Herd immunity requires some high multiple of that number. We are nowhere near herd immunity. You don't even know what that means in all likelihood.

Seraphim , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:07 am GMT
@nsa Whom to believe? Australia had, as per today 21.04.2020, 6,642 cases and 71 dead. Seventy-one, not 120. South Korea on the 18.04. only 232.
Anon [323] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:12 am GMT
Professor Luc Montagnier, Who Won Nobel Prize For Codiscovering AIDS Virus, has said COVID-19's HIV "strains" could be put there in the virus's RNA only by human expert intervention in a laboratory.
The excerpt from the French TV program where he said it can be found on YouTube.

What's "funny" is the way most USA, or, how should we say?, USA-close, media reports the fact, starting from misleading headers (headers which, as usual for the USA and, how should we say?, USA-close media, are all clones, with tiny changes from one to the other).

Professor Luc Montagnier, Who Won Nobel Prize For Codiscovering AIDS Virus, Says Coronavirus Was Man-Made In Wuhan Lab.

This, when the professor clearly stated he is only a scientist, and he only wanted to relate facts that many other research groups have found but have been left unsaid due to enormous pressure, and he stated equally clearly that it is not his knowledge, duty, competence, will, to give opinions on who did it, where, why.

Jim Christian , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:15 am GMT
@Godfree Roberts

The average IQ of China's top 5,000 political leaders is 140

Have not most of the all-time Evil Greats been brilliant? We have them, Russia has them. How is China having them unique? If Ron's suspicions over this are close to true and even if not, we already have volumes of evidence in so many other situations proving we have brilliant evil-doers aplenty on the U.S. side in any case.

The rest of your points are agreeable to me. But every time I've hung my hat on the 'brilliant' high-I.Q.-types I'm always disappointed. They test well but in command of things they bring us wars and now this. The medical people are high-I.Q. as hell, they've vacuumed up half our GDP and research dollars for 100 years now and it's their job to have had this in hand. Like our high-I.Q. generals and admirals the past 75 years, they're losing another war for us. The high IQ sorts in finance are another group. We're a nation in serious decline and from where I sit, the high-IQs are merely managing said decline.

High I.Q.s just don't cut it from where I sit. Could be jealousy. My IQ is some where between a pineapple and radish, a yam maybe..

Ber , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:22 am GMT
@no bat soup for you There is so much talk about Chinese will eat just about anything but there is usually no focus on other people in the world for doing similar things.

The Chinese eat bamboo rats, the French and Belgiums eat rats too – besides snails. Some people in Asian countries eat cats and dogs, the Swiss by the thousands, eat cats and dogs. The members of Explorers' Club in New York eat just about anything as well. But to top it all, there is even have a cannibal club in LA that specializes in eating human flesh.

http://www.cannibalclub.org/

Home page: Specializing in the preparation of human meat, Cannibal Club brings the cutting edge of experimental cuisine to the refined palates of L.A.'s cultural elite. Our master chefs hail from around the world for the opportunity to practice their craft free of compromise and unbounded by convention.
Our exclusive clientele includes noted filmmakers, intellectuals, and celebrities who have embraced the Enlightenment ideals of free expression and rationalism. On event nights, avant-garde performance artists, celebrated literary figures, and ground-breaking musicians entertain our guests.
At Cannibal Club, we celebrate artistic excellence as the natural and inevitable expression of the unbridled human spirit.

Now just listen to their music:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/epoHB_yZ1uU?feature=oembed

skeptik23 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:25 am GMT
Brilliant work I have been researching everything I can find, while placing the totality of events in the context of US IC/DS ops The "botched biowarfare" attack fits the data the best by far. Thanks for this report.
Anon [262] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:30 am GMT
@Been_there_done_that

Those who praise China's alleged competence in the matter have a dilemma to deal with. Either the authorities are competent

There is no "dilemma." They detected an outbreak and dealt with it competently. Your government run by a reality show host didn't. It's as simple as that. You can deflect all you want, but it really boils down to that.

in which case they effectively waged biological warfare against the rest of the world

Nothing the Chinese did forced other countries to keep their borders open. Several countries like Israel closed them before Donald Trump did. Nothing China did forced Trump into not taking this seriously until it was too late.

[MORE]

Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721

"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear," Trump told attendees at an African American History Month reception in the White House Cabinet Room. The World Health Organization says the virus has "pandemic potential" and medical experts have warned it will spread in the US. The President added that "from our shores, you know, it could get worse before it gets better. Could maybe go away. We'll see what happens. Nobody really knows."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/27/politics/trump-coronavirus-disappear/index.html

Trump allegedly asked Fauci if officials could let coronavirus 'wash over' US

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492390-wapo-trump-allegedly-asked-fauci-if-officials-could-let-coronavirus

In Trump's 'LIBERATE' tweets, extremists see a call to arms

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-trump-s-liberate-tweets-extremists-see-a-call-to-arms/ar-BB12NQ0h

Stimulus checks to bear Trump's name in unprecedented move

https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Stimulus-checks-to-bear-Trump-s-name-in-15202400.php

'God help us': Americans horrified after Trump names Jared and Ivanka to his 'Council to Re-open America'

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/god-help-us-americans-horrified-after-trump-names-jared-and-ivanka-to-his-council-to-re-open-america/

Trump threatens India 'retaliation' over unproven drug

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52180660

US 'wasted' months before preparing for coronavirus pandemic

A review of federal purchasing contracts by The Associated Press shows federal agencies largely waited until mid-March to begin placing bulk orders of N95 respirator masks, mechanical ventilators and other equipment needed by front-line health care workers.

https://apnews.com/090600c299a8cf07f5b44d92534856bc

'I felt I had a moral obligation': Tucker Carlson crashed Mar-a-Lago party to talk with Trump about the coronavirus

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/i-felt-i-had-a-moral-obligation-tucker-carlson-crashed-mar-a-lago-party-to-talk-with-trump-about-the-coronavirus

Truthseeker56890 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:30 am GMT
2 Phylogenetic studies have been done to suggest America was the source of the virus.

This study suggests that Type A strain the earliest type of the SARS-COV2, was mostly found in the US. While in China it was mostly type B, another strain mutated from Type A.
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/07/2004999117

This study suggests there are 2 sources of spread, however in countries from Brazil, Italy, Australia, Sweden and South Korea , some cases are tie to the US cluster but not to China. So this suggest some cases were directly spread from the US. Japan commented it was from the US because they had the virus from traveling to Hawaii and they never went to China.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.09.034942v1

here in this video presentation some arguments that supports the US had this virus in between August 2019 and Jan 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3J6zm6zgah0?feature=oembed

A possible scenario is they developed a few Sars-Cov2 bio-weapon strains the B and C strains from the A strain. They wanted to find a vaccine for it before they can be deployed, but in developing the vaccine they leaked the A type out into the US. They had to make a decision, let the public know about it or cover it up and release the B and C strain without the vaccine. I think they did the latter.
But you be the judge, we need more transparency from the CDC and more research before any conclusions can be made.

Truth3 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:38 am GMT
Once again Mr. Unz unleashes a Tour de Force upon the Global Power Liars.

Well done, Sir. Truth wins in the end.

dimples , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:41 am GMT
@dimples Of course I completely failed to mention in the above comment that it's the War on Terror that's coming to a close. Russia Russia Russia! has been an attempt to fill the gap but its not going anywhere due to opposition from the Euros.

The slow US reaction to the virus could therefore seen not as incompetence but a deliberate process of sowing more destruction, thus more China-hate later, ie its part of the plot. Also the virus is not too deadly, just enough to create a big scare and over-reaction amongst the authorities and public.

dimples , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:52 am GMT
@Mustapha Mond Yes IF there is a conspiracy that would be it. I have also come to this conclusion in other comments but you have described it much better than myself.
anon [215] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:54 am GMT
@Christopher Marlowe The flying drones over pig farms is nonsense from Metallicman, who is a controlled-opp deep asset that speaks 80-90% truth and 10-20% lies.

I tried looking into the flying drones a bit, but couldn't confirm any of it.

Half Back , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 11:55 am GMT
@Ayatollah Smith I want to add Trump's early response to the corona virus shows Trumps and American duplicity. I used to watch a TV show 'Lie to me' with actor Tim Roth. Anyway people give away all kind of knowledge when they communicate. So my take that Trump's call that it's like a bad flu or it's nothing to worry about, reveals knowledge that it is American attack and that he (Trump) worries if it gets 'out' that the trump administration is culpable, so he tries to downplay corona virus and his own role in it!
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denk , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:01 pm GMT

Blow back

The first thought comes to mind .
Its a feature , not a bug.

OOps, several posters already noted it.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
To recap ..

The Who test.. ..

Who's the motive ?

Who benefits ?

Who's the means ?

Who's a seventy years old track record of extreme malfeasance against China ?

Who's a track record of using bioweapons on friends and foe, including its own citizens ?

Who's a track record of committing FF , including many cases against China ?
[TAM, Tibet, Xinjiang, HK, Mh370, INdon genocide 1965,
..]
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

Occams Razor .

There's a serial arsonist in town, he has been caught setting fire to John's house dozens of times in the past few months.

JOhn's house caught fire last night

Who's the first suspect to haul in for interrogation ?

Elementary, Watson.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -

Last but not least.

Mathematics doesnt cheat

Ian Flaming's fundamental law of prob .
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thrice ..

How many 'coincidences' occur in the Wuhan caper. ?

-- -- -- -- -- -- –
Conclusion.

Whichever way you look at it,

Logic, Circumstantial evidences and Mathematics all points to
We know who.

Donald A Thomson , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:15 pm GMT
@swamped The high casualties in the NATO countries are due to their own reluctance to do anything for so long. Look at the total number that have been infected and the current new infection rates in South Korea, Australia and New Zealand. South Korea prepared better than anybody but was cursed with a Christian sect that also had churches in Wuhan. They stayed close together for a long time in their churches to increase community feeling and, since God was looking after their health, were reluctant to admit to being ill. Yet South Korea shits on every NATO country in fighting COVID-19. So do Australia and New Zealand in spite of their extremely poor use of the 2 months warning provided by China and the DNA sequence of the virus provided by China on 12th of January, 2020. As soon as the Chinese methods were applied, the same success with humans was achieved. Now the NATO countries are aping China too, they are starting to have the same human success. They will continue with success as long as they continue aping. The Yanks are losers like other NATO members because they didn't bother to ape until they were heavily infected. I stress that Australia and New Zealand did very badly (only about 10 times better than the USA but 4 times worse than China who we should have beaten easily) because they were slow to ape. We only look wonderful when compared with NATO. Actually, we also do about 5 times better than Iran too. Even with sanctions crippling their response, Iran has done twice as well as the US losers. When it becomes a matter of drug and vaccine development where the USA has real strengths, I expect the USA to do as well as China but it's a low tech battle right now and the Yank boys haven't done well against the Chinese or Iranian men in that competition. Who would expect them to? [email protected]
Vojkan , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:19 pm GMT
@Godfree Roberts The reasons you enumerate apply to individual people, they don't apply to governments. It is true that a rational individual should prefer truth because truth is mostly self-sufficient while lies need to be reasserted permanently. The rationality of truth vs lies is very much like the rationality of well-designed software vs badly designed software. Good design as truth demands less maintenance. The problem is that it doesn't keep programmers busy and it doesn't justify budgets. A government, the "deep state" moreover, need to keep maintenance costs high to perpetrate themselves.
The crucial question very few seem to be asking is the question of motive. Many commenters here project on the Chinese their own traits. The problem is that what can be said of Western elites can't be said of Chinese elites because the Chinese have different motives altogether. There's one motive they didn't have, to provoke a crisis. Viruses don't hop out of labs by accident any more than gold hops out of Fort Knox. One has to bring them out and the Chinese had no reason to do it.
Regarding the US on the other hand, though I disagree with Ron Unz's assertion that this particular US administration is more reckless and less competent than those that preceded it, seen from abroad it just appears as less hypocrite, to keep the story short I'll just say that hubris tends to cloud judgment and that desperate times ask for desperate measures.
Anonymous [538] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT
Sounds entirely plausible, and, to be parsimonious, even probable. The last element to make it feasible was leaving Trump entirely out of the loop. He still won't have a clue if he's standing in the dock at the Hague years from now. Everything he will ever know about this fiasco will be from light reading material they allow him in his cell.

The Deep State made the right bet when they decided late in the race to hack the election in favor of the Donald rather than the Queen of Warmongers. Nobody would ever expect the self-described peace candidate to escalate the ongoing hybrid wars to germ warfare. (Though maybe the use of chemical weapons by America's proxies in Syria should have been a hint.) Now the world knows, the Satanists in charge of Washington will stop at nothing.

Quintus , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT
@Mustapha Mond I 100% agree with you, Mustapha Mond. Much as I admire Ron for in so many ways for his other topnotch contributions and running this site, one of the very best news sites IMO, the evidence at hand does not suggest incompetence on the part of the US government and the deep state behind it: it's definitely an Atlanticist plandemic. Godfree Roberts showed that many steps the Trump administration took the past two years were meant to pave the way for enabling the government to play the "we didn't see this coming" card, just as with 9/11:

https://medium.com/@godfree/the-data-are-more-than-just-wrong-these-questions-illuminate-what-we-dont-know-about-the-data-f117681068f1

Not mentioned in Roberts' piece is the US's PREDICT biological outbreak program, conveniently shut down in October 2019:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/health/predict-usaid-viruses.html

At the same time, the US Health Dept was running Crimson Contagion in the first half of 2019, simulating a deadly flu pandemic starting in China (as I recall). Even the US Naval War College ran a pandemic simulation causing respiratory failure:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/04/01/naval-war-college-ran-pandemic-war-game-2019-conclusions-were-eerie.html

Everyone knows about Event 201 at this point, in October 2019, sponsored by the Gates Foundation, Bloomberg via Johns Hopkins, and the World Economic Forum, simulating specifically a coronavirus pandemic. What are the odds that the organizers of Event 201 were just lucky in picking a coronavirus, knowing there are 150 other virus families, besides coronaviruses (e.g. rhinoviruses, adenoviruses, etc.):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virus_families_and_subfamilies

That's a 1/151 chance! Lucky bastards! Present at Event 201 were recycled players involved in the 9/11 anthrax attack simulation 'Dark Winter', such as Thomas Inglesby, as documented by Whitney Webb. Not to mention the 2011 movie 'Contagion', involving a flu-like pandemic originating in China (Hong Kong),transmitted from bats to humans in an unsanitary environment!!! Another financial reset was also long overdue, as Greg Mannarino and others have pointed out: the coronavirus cover was too perfect of a tool for deflecting the guilt from the Fed and the banksters; killing many birds with one stone, the virus is also a 2) powerful psy-op hurting China's image in the world, 3) further delivering a strong blow to its export-driven economy; 4) it sets the stage for the cashless society ("dirty bills not accepted here!"), the advent of digital currencies and 5) top-down surveillance.

Astuteobservor II , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:29 pm GMT
@Jeremygg5 You take a retarded sub human too seriously. Using logic and reason will get you no where.

It is regretful that a sub human took the first comment spot. It will attract more of it's type.

Astuteobservor II , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:37 pm GMT
@Vaterland If we go along on that theory of yours, it would all make sense if China said no to the transition.

Why would the current Chinese elites share their country and power with outsiders? That makes no sense for the elites of China.

Astuteobservor II , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:39 pm GMT
@Octavian That reads like the perfect scenario for cold war 2.0 or the last hot war on earth.
anon [114] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:45 pm GMT

So either the China's leadership had suddenly gone insane, or they regarded this new virus as an absolutely deadly national threat, one that needed to be controlled at any possible cost.

Those are not the only choices, Ron.

Here is another one for you:

– CCP knew this virus had a low fatality rate;

– CCP were aware of recent (DoD iirc) readiness assessments noting that US had specific vulnerability to a pandemic;

– CCP was aware that the captive Chinese people were alrady subject to 'herd control' infrastructure whereas the US population still enjoyed human rights;

– CCP decided to sow confusion about the infection. ("We can do this, but their society will fall apart Comrades!")

– The West initially chose to ignore this. Then the Corporate Press "International" decided to put psyops pressure to force US and UK to do a 180 u-turn. This due to a single lousy non-peer-reviewed paper at the Imperial College.

Must read writeup on Imperial College and their hysterical white paper : https://www.voltairenet.org/article209749.html

--

Some other considerations that can inform the above are (a) the attitude of CCP towards 'world government' institutions, and (b) their relationship with WHO, in particular.

So option 3, Mr. Unz:

CCP used the (controlled?) exposure of a virus ("17") to put into motion a psychological operation to sow confusion and panic in US (based on our own published findings on readiness) that seems to have other participants in the Globalist crowd institutions. The primary target was USA, but NATO as well.

Btw, Mr. Unz, that ex-CIA psyops writer you host on your site (Giraldi) keeps censoring my comments on his propaganda pieces. Why do allow them a platform and also permit them to censor rebuttals? Hopefully you will prevent UNZ Review from becoming UNZ Pravda.

Anonymous [395] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:45 pm GMT
Ron, you need to rewrite this essay. If minor websites carry articles blaming China the presumption is these articles are falsifications seeded by Trump, but if wildly sensationalist Chinese propaganda pieces come from unknown sources like OldMicrobiologist or Metallicman then they're reliable? Wow is all I can say.

Suggesting Lieber's creds set him above espionage and bio sabotage against the United States is the best you can do? Your overwrought defense of this man is telling, given his "assistants" are provably Chinese bio espionage agents and he secretly agreed to take a post as director of the Wuhan lab.

In the same vein, did you know that the Johns Hopkins' inflammatory "dashboard" world map seen and used everywhere was developed by a 30-year-old Chinese "student," Ensheng Dong, working for Johns Hopkins? Using Edward Tufte's "Lie Factor" for evaluating the exaggeration of a graphical representation relative to the underlying data puts the Johns Hopkins map so far in the lie category as to warrant an FBI investigation of Johns Hopkins and its employees for causing irreparable economic and societal harm to the United States. In an NPR puff piece gushing over the map's creators, "all sitting around a table sipping lattes," Dong is quoted as saying it's like showing blood everywhere. That's quite accurate from the proud creator considering the irreparable harm that map has been in large part responsible for creating.

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/13/833073670/mapping-covid-19-millions-rely-on-online-tracker-of-cases-worldwide

Gorgeous George , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:55 pm GMT
One correction for the beginning of the article. The 1999 bombing campaign against Yugoslavia wasn't directed against Bosnian Serbs. That was the 1995 campaign and had nothing to do with the Chinese Embassy being hit. It seems that you simply got the 1995 NATO bombing of Bosnian Serbs (entirely in Bosnia) and the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro – when the Chinese (brand new) embassy was hit) mixed up.

Interesting thing – the Japanese current embassy is on the exact grounds where the Chinese one used to be. I find some funny symbolism in that.

Max Powers , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 12:56 pm GMT
@Jim Jatras Yep. Unz lost me with that comment. And very sloppy by his high standards. The NATO 1999 bombings were to support the Albanians in Kosovo – not the Bosnian muslims. I suggest Ron does some homework on the whole Yugo Wars period. Maybe even back to ottoman times.
Gorgeous George , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT
@Anonymous I think that he obviously got the two NATO bombing campaigns mixed up.
NATO bombed Bosnian Serbs (entirely in Bosnia) in 1995 to protect its interests under the guise of protecting Bosnian muslims. This is what Unz supports.
NATO bombed Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) in 1999 when the Chinese embassy was hit.

Let's not make the comments spiral off into the Serbia/NATO conflict details. The point of the entire mention of the bombing is that there is sincere indication that the US hit the Chinese embassy on purpose. That much was clear since day 1 as the embassy was a brand new building and you couldn't mistake it for a previous occupant or anything of the sort. It was a message to China.

UK , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT
@swamped While I don't agree that China would have done this on purpose as I am generally doubtful of all similar theories, it would nonetheless also explain why China banned all movement to the rest of China from Wuhan while not only allowing the Wuhan infected to infiltrate the West but actually vociferously and ubiquitously complaining about Western racists for thinking about not allowing them in.
Biff , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:11 pm GMT
@hs4691506

I think it was Zero-hedge that said the professor lied about his Chinese funding, making him in effect an agent of China.

You need to understand the system in place. The book Three Felonies a Day outlines the how, but does't really cover the why, and there lies the devil in the details. When they want you, all they have to do is pour over your life' details, and they will find something nefarious as a tool to put you in stern and squeeze.
There is million different details and forms to fill out when securing foreign funds for a university; most of the rules and the process is ad hoc, and more often a lot of it is ignored, and of course – certain countries have certain rules. The good professor didn't do anything that was completely out of the norm. It's nearly impossible in this society to be crime free – by design.

Think of all the people near Trump during his Russian Collusion investigation that went to jail or indicted – most if not all were dragged in on the many petty illegalities that plague our legal system for a reason. Illegalities that on a normal day most people ignore until it is politically expedient for the authorities to use them.
This is how a Police State operates.

You don't have to believe me; just ask Tommy Chong, Martha Stewart, etc .

UK , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:12 pm GMT
@Ber You think there is a restaurant serving human flesh in Los Angeles? You are an abject moron.
Really No Shit , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:15 pm GMT
Et tu, Brute? You're worried more about the Chinese embassy in Belgrade and Bosnian Muslims than the destruction of that great Christian Serbia by the Clintons & cabal shame!
TomSchmidt , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:15 pm GMT
According to Matthews the infamous massacre had likely never happened

In the mid 1990s, I worked with a man of Chinese ancestry in New York named Henry Sun. Henry had been in Beijing at Tiananmen Square. He had been shot. What happened afterward was that he was treated by doctors for the bullet wound, and they had coded the illness as some sort of cancer, so that it would not be obvious that he was a dissident and so be arrested.

Now, I cannot say that someone was killed. I can say that personal testament to me from a credible witness indicates bullets were flying, and one struck him. Maybe that's not a massacre, by whatever means that word is defined. But it wasn't a Chinese tea ceremony.

9/11 Inside job , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:19 pm GMT
I am a retired attorney and I am heartened to see that some attorneys, namely David Helm in Michigan and Lindy Urso in Connecticut ,are beginning to file lawsuits to revoke unlawful and unconstitutional Executive"Coronavirus" Orders issued by the Governors of the States of Michigan and Connecticut. I have long maintained that almost every Executive Order issued by State Governors are revocable as they are based on a lie, promoted by the WHO and the CDC ,that there is a Coronavirus pandemic and an international public health emergency .
Rafael Martorell , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:21 pm GMT
everything China have and everything USA has been lost was done with the complicity and personal gain of 99% of the usa elite,political class,including CIA,etc and even the likes of Michael Jordan.
Anonymous [235] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:26 pm GMT
Another great article.

Whoever decides to believe this embarrassingly transparent anti-China propaganda is stupidly siding with Soros and his Global Deep State golems. This will be the latest IQ test for those who struggled with all the previous ones (incubator babies, Iraqi WMDs, Quaddafi's Viagra, Hillary's electability, Russiagate etc.).

George Soros: China Is a 'Mortal Enemy' of the West

FBI, DOJ Say China Is America's Greatest Threat

Godfree Roberts , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:27 pm GMT
@Jim Christian High IQ is just an entry level requirement. They have 300,000 folks with 160 IQ, so 140 is not that exceptional.

New recruits' first posting is 5 years in the poorest village in the country. They 'graduate' after they've raised everyone's incomes by 50%. Then the career path gets really steep.

The people who are visible to us have been so thoroughly scrutinized that it's almost painful to contemplate. Here's Zhao Bing Bing[1], a mid-level Liaoning[2] Province official talking about her mid-level, provincial promotion to Daniel Bell:

[MORE]

I was promoted in 2004 through my department's internal competition (30 percent on written exam results, 30 percent on interviews and public speaking, 30 percent on public opinion of my work and 10 percent on education, seniority and my current position) and became the youngest deputy division chief. In 2009, Liaoning Province (pop. 44 million), announced in the national media an open selection of officials. Sixty candidates met the qualifications, the top five of whom were invited for further interviews. Based on their test scores (40 percent) and interview results (60 percent), the top three were then appraised. The Liaoning Province Organizational Department sent four appraisers who spent a whole day checking my previous records. Eighty of my colleagues were asked to vote–more than thirty of whom were asked to talk with the appraisers about my merits and shortcomings–and they submitted the appraisal result to the provincial Standing Committee of the CCP for review.

In principle, the person who scored the highest and whose appraisals were not problematic would be promoted. However, because my university major, work experience and previous performance were the best fit for the position, I was finally appointed department chief of the Liaoning Provincial Foreign Affairs Office even though my overall score was second best [the government discriminates positively in promoting women–ed]. Before the official appointment there was a seven-day public notice period during which anybody could report to the organization department concerns about my promotion. I didn't spend any money during my three promotions; all I did was study and work hard and do my best to be a good person.

In 2013, thanks to an exchange program, I worked temporarily in the CCP International Department. The system of temporary exchanges offers opportunities to learn about different issues in different regions and areas like government sectors and SOEs. In a famous quote Chairman Mao said, "Once the political lines have been clearly defined the decisive factor will be the cadres [trained specialists]." So the CCP highly values organizational construction and the selection and appointment of specialists. There is a special department managing this work, The Organization Department, established in 1924 and Mao was its first leader..The department is mainly responsible for the macro management of the leaders and the staff (team building), including the management system, regulations and laws, human resource system reforms -- planning, research and direction, as well as proposing suggestions on the leadership change and the (re)appointment of cadres. In addition, it has the responsibilities of training and supervising cadres. The cadre selection criteria are: a person must have 'both ability and moral integrity and the latter should be prioritized'. The evaluation of moral integrity focuses mostly on loyalty to the Party, service to the people, self-discipline and integrity. Based on different levels and positions, the emphases of evaluation are also different. For intermediate and senior officials, emphasis is on their persistence in faith and ideals, political stance and coordination with the central Party. High-level cadres are measured against great politicians and, among them, experience in multiple positions is very important.

Fans follow the careers of one-thousand top politicians online[3] and they are impressive, as President Donald Trump[4] observed, "Their leaders are much smarter than our leaders. It's like taking the New England Patriots and Tom Brady and have them play your high school football team. That's the difference between China's leaders and our leaders".

Today's leaders began their careers in the 1960s as manual laborers in dirt-poor villages and won promotions by raising village incomes by fifty percent. As they rose, they spent sabbaticals on the lake-studded campus of The Academy of Governance where they met the world's leading thinkers, critiqued legislation and earned PhDs. They now run huge provinces, Fortune 500 corporations, universities, space programs and, of course, government departments and the Peoples Daily reords their progress under headlines like, "How Rural Poverty Criteria Affects Mayoral Promotions."


[1] Daniel Bell and Zhao Bing Bing, The China Model.
[2] Liaoning (pop. 45 million) is a northeastern Chinese province bordering North Korea and the Yellow Sea.
[3] The Committee https://macropolo.org/the-committee/
[4] Donald Trump says Tom Brady and the Patriots are just like China. Boston.com . By Steve Silva July 6, 2015

Johnny Walker Read , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:27 pm GMT
Thank God this "scamdemic" was not planned long ago and shown to us through predictive programming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=187&v=5krD8zJ6-bY&feature=emb_logo
utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:28 pm GMT
@anon There is on little problem with your hasbara. Those great strategic planners in China of yours forgot about one little thing that the West has 100% dominance over China in the soft power of creating global narratives with which it will turn China into a pariah nation in the eyes of everybody, a nation that everybody hates.
Biff , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:32 pm GMT
@TG

I personally think this was either the result of the so-called "wet-markets" in China – long known to be the primary source of the annual flu epidemics

I've been going to markets in Asia all my adult life and suddenly they are both the source of flu epidemics and "wet".
Unless it is raining the second one makes everything seem so ridiculous.

(why the heck haven't they been shut down??)

Because people would starve?

Try throwing some blame(buying food makes you sick!) at your big box corporate food monopolies and try to shut them down – take a guess at what might happen?

utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:34 pm GMT
@Anonymous Is that you, John "WE KNOW WHERE YOUR KIDS LIVE" Bolton?
anon [114] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:43 pm GMT
"hasbara"

Your Mama , you purveyour of ad-homs.

"the West has 100% dominance over China in the soft power of creating global narratives"

Oh, really, "the West"? Last I checked there was a war in "The West" between two camps of elites of "The West" for our public consumption.

"a nation that everybody hates"

No, that would be your Mama's "homeland", Israel.

Emslander , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:47 pm GMT
@Tor597 Except, it would be helpful if Ron placed somewhere prominantly on the home page that he is a card-carrying member of the "Resistance" against Trump, which this article finally reveals full blast.
Polymath , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT
Too much attention here on things which could have other explanations and too little attention on the real puzzles and on those things which science can definitely settle.

(1) It is solvable, and it will be solved, where and when were the first cases of the infection among the general public outside China. Almost everything else depends on that.
(2) It is almost inconceivable that American agencies who had been plotting this would run it by Trump for approval first. It seems much more likely that the anonymously sourced report that our agencies knew about this in November is some kind of ass-covering to shift blame to Trump, whom these same agencies have been trying to take down for 4 years; which doesn't help us discern whether they were also responsible for the pathogen in the first place, it's consistent either way.
(3) The genome has been out there long enough, with no one pointing out inconsistencies that have held up to scrutiny, that "wild", "escaped from a lab", and "was evolved in a lab" all look much more likely than "was designed directly by RNA editing".
(4) China's behavior is much more consistent with accidental than with intentional release. They've obviously lied about the death toll and didn't feel obliged to prevent their people from traveling abroad, but ordinary Communist wickedness explains that.
(5) Travel between China and Iran and Italy explains the early prevalence there sufficiently, presuming genomic data we don't yet have will confirm this.

Conclusion: Too early to get locked in to origin theories, the usual suspects are taking advantage in the same way they would whether or not it was an intentional release. THIS WILL ALL BE CLARIFIED BY TESTING OF OLD TISSUE SAMPLES so I'm going to wait and see what those results say. The reports of early COVID outside China have not been confirmed, but come from researchers WITH REAL NAMES, so it WILL get figured out one way or the other and I'm holding my fire until then.

P.S. Lieber is clearly a weird loose end that needs to be tied up. Is anyone trying to interview him?

glib , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:49 pm GMT
Let's see. Here in the USA covid hit later, at a time when people have the lowest seasonal vitamin D (a major immune system hormone, with the population being 90%+ deficient). A fraction of the population being hit particularly hard has dark skin, further reducing the vit. D levels. That same fraction is over-represented among those who have metabolic syndrome (diabetes, hypertension, obesity, and the like), and that is related to all manners of immune system degradation. Then we have a medical system which looks only for profitable magic bullets, instead of trying a variety of cheap methods, each of which can increase the recovery rate by tens of percent.

Finally we have lots and lots of nursing homes, unlike China. And a majority (more than 50%) of deaths comes from those places in Europe. Data from Italy suggests that privately run nursing homes are correlated with increased mortality, although it could just be extreme air pollution and/or other environmental factors. Data from Scandinavia suggest that nursing home size matters too, the smaller the better.

Why should one be surprised that this thing is hitting harder in the West?

onebornfree , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:53 pm GMT
R.Unz:"By any reasonable measure, the response to this global health crisis by China and most East Asian countries has been absolutely exemplary,"

Your transparent, never ending shilling for the murderous CCP is becoming more and more obvious, at least to myself. I'm starting to believe that this site is nothing more than a thinly disguised Chinese government propaganda outlet.

As in other recent threads, you fully endorse the CCP's criminal actions: lockdowns of [reportedly] 700 million Chinese citizens; literal lockdowns with citizens locked, even having their front doors welded shut by the "authorities",for weeks. The idiotic [unless deliberate], Chinese "solution" has probably already killed 1000's, if not 10's or 100's of thousands there via starvation alone, and the economic devastation caused in China will likely kill millions more Chinese in the years to come.

But that is all "exemplary" in your opinion, right? "To make an omelette you have to break a few eggs", right?

R.Unz:"Everyone knows that America's ruling elites are criminal, crazy, and also extremely incompetent."

Of course! "Everyone knows" that! [I wish].

What you [and some of them] don't know [or won't admit to themselves] is that this is no less true of the Chinese government, or of any other government, for that matter.

Reality fact: "Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be "reformed"or "improved",simply because of their innate criminal nature." onebornfree

Which means that believing/trusting official stories and figures doled out by competing criminal power structures, about _anything_, let alone actually supporting/promoting their idiotic and criminal acts [eg the Chinese, US and elsewhere lockdowns"], is a mugs game for useful idiots, nothing more. And yet, that is what you continue to consistently indulge yourself in here.

And so it goes No Regards, onebornfree

St-Germain , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:55 pm GMT
Thanks for the excellent wrapup, Ron Unz. Your cui bono approach works like a super-chloroquine dose to zap the anti-China virus now spreading from U.S. legacy media. What passes for news media here in Europe is no better. But apparently there are islands of sanity outside the Western imperial heartland. If you read French, you may find it encouraging to read some real journalism on the source of the carona plandemic here from darkest Africa:

https://www.sunuker.com/actualite/international/coronavirus-des-preuves-que-le-covid-19-trouverait-son-origine-aux-etats-unis/

It even includes U.S. sources like Dr. Daniel Lucey who apparently can't get a word in edgewise in the American press.

Greg Bacon , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:55 pm GMT
The same mendacious MSM that for three years howled at the moon that Putin had stolen the 2016 election for Trump is now barking like a mad dog about Covid being some kind of 21st Century version of the Black Death.

Never mind that to get to the current figure of around 42,000 deaths, the CDC has been juicing the total number of dead by adding in those who died from a heart attack or stroke or some other medical complication, there was fear to be spread and by G-d, they were doing to scare the hell out of Americans, just like they did in the years after the Israeli masterminded 9/11 false flag.

Like Mr. Atzmon has pointed out, the 2017-18 flu season was much deadlier, yet there was no lock-downs, quarantines and a complete gutting of the US–and the worlds–economy.

The following may sound like a description of the current Novel Coronavirus pandemic: "The season began with an increase of illness in November; high activity occurred during January and February, and then illness continued through the end of March." You guessed right, this is not the description of the current global Corona pandemic but actually how CNN described the outbreak of influenza in America in September 2018.
Does it take a genius to figure out that the American 2017-18 influenza outbreak was pretty 'similar' to the current Novel Coronavirus epidemic?

The first question that comes to mind is why didn't America lock itself down amidst its catastrophic 2017-18 influenza as it has now? One may wonder why the CDC didn't react to the 'severity' of the outbreak that was at least three times as lethal as the current Novel Coronavirus health crisis?

https://gilad.online/writings/2020/4/20/is-amnesia-a-symptom-of-covid-19

The Deep State thugs who are actually in charge of the US have some devious plan in mind with this Covid hysteria.
Maybe they wanted to see how quickly Americans would give up their Bill of Rights. Or maybe they wanted to cover up the multi-trillion dollar bailout of those TBTF banks that we bailed out in 2009?

Or maybe this the test run for their next batch of weaponized flu, the one that will get many killed and have people lining up for Mr. Know-it-all Bill Gates RFID chipped flu vaccine.

denk , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:55 pm GMT
@Anonymous Another explanation

The actual reason for the bombing was meant to cover-up NATO war crimes that were taking place almost daily, and the Chinese listening post located in the corner of the embassy that was bombed were intercepting orders issued by NATO which clearly revealed those crimes. The Chinese needed to be silenced and their operations ended, no matter the fallout.

https://www.voltairenet.org/article177116.html

In case you'r wondering what kind of war crimes your dear leaders were trying to cover up

https://web.archive.org/web/20120115150147/http://home.windstream.net/dwrighsr/a3820cf4d2861.html

Turk 152 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 1:56 pm GMT
My immediate gut reaction upon seeing the cartoon character version of a Muslim terrorist, Osama Bin Laden, was this is a fake designed to play on US xenophobia. He was obviously made for TV audiences.

I assumed after Skripal and the endless Assad gas arracks, that our ruling elite have just become lazy and couldn't even be bothered to create a plausible story to cover up their crimes, because the public is so stupid. How long did it take to determine it was a fraud, a weekend of casual reading?

Putting a mob style hit on Venezuala's President confirmed that they could care less what the Hoi Poloi think of them.

If this is a US caper, it is the either the most ridicoulosly stupid one imaginable, or the most well thought out one in a very long time.

TomSchmidt , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:03 pm GMT
I had not connected the intelligence reports (recently spilled out of the Deep State) with the obvious. Thanks, Ron, for pointing out that it's hard to imagine how the NSA/CIA/whoever-collecting-part-of-the-85bln-we-spend-on-intelligence could report on this in November when the sources from which they would have derived that information (the Chinese government itself) didn't know until December 31st, or shortly before that date when they reported to the WHO.

Someone, in covering up for blowing the response to the virus, really dropped the ball.

JQ , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:09 pm GMT
Ill leave it at this :
davidgmillsatty , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:15 pm GMT
Scientists from the UK have a recent paper on the mutations of Corona-19.

Here is part of the abstract:

In a phylogenetic network analysis of 160 complete human severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-Cov-2) genomes, we find three central variants distinguished by amino acid changes, which we have named A, B, and C, with A being the ancestral type according to the bat outgroup coronavirus. The A and C types are found in significant proportions outside East Asia, that is, in Europeans and Americans. In contrast, the B type is the most common type in East Asia, and its ancestral genome appears not to have spread outside East Asia without first mutating into derived B types, pointing to founder effects or immunological or environmental resistance against this type outside Asia.

And here are the findings in diagram form:

https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/07/2004999117

I think these findings throw lots of water on any bioweapon claims. But others may differ in their opinions.

It definitely does indicate that the virus did not come from a Wuhan lab or the Wuhan wet market. It originated in Southern China where most people knowledgeable about bat viruses expect bat viruses to originate.

Rafael Martorell , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:15 pm GMT
you are mistakenly assuming and given for granted that this epidemic is much more lethat than others,that the total closure is beneficial and not harmfull,that is the solution ,you are deciding who to try to save regardless of the millions of victims of this economic harakiri,and there are many epidemiologists who disagree with you.
journey80 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:15 pm GMT
"COVID-19" testing in the U.S. is unverified, developed by the CDC. Which should tell you what you need to know about its credibility.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/has-covid-19-testing-made-the-problem-worse-confusion-regarding-the-true-health-impacts/5709323

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

Beefcake the Mighty , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:17 pm GMT
Post-Corona, there seems to be a lot of wannabes angling for one of Ron's coveted golden showers, I mean stars.
Greg Bacon , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:18 pm GMT
One more thought: The US has over 25 bio-warfare labs that are located next door to Russia and China that have been called out before for their sloppy or maybe deliberate release of pathogens.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-biological-warfare-program-in-the-spotlight-again/5654064

How many of those kind of labs does Russia or China have in Mexico or Canada?

None that I'm aware of.

Like the old saying goes: "Admit nothing, Deny everything and Make counter-accusations." Sounds like Humpty Trumpty's Covid blame-shifting plan.

Ozymandias , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:29 pm GMT
@Jeremygg5

The WHO too only had high praises for China's transparency and efficiency.

Would that be the same WHO that said chinese disease was not communicable between humans and that we should keep letting infected people into the country? That's who we should trust? Or should we trust the communist government that shut down domestic travel to and from Wuhan, because they were trying to protect the rest of THEIR country, while still allowing international travel, because they wanted the rest of the planet infected?

This virus may or may not have been engineered, and may have come from the lab or the wet market. These things are debatable. But what is absolutely not debatable is that once the virus was loose, China choose to DELIBERATELY infect the rest of the world. These are people whose numbers we should trust?

Beefcake the Mighty , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT
@Ozymandias " Lol. I can't believe you're doubling down on this jackassery."

Once you realize that the alt-right is a limited hangout, it makes perfect sense.

Jus' Sayin'... , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT
@hs4691506

" I think it strange that now we have all these cross-overs from the animal kingdom."

In actuality, we've regularly had these crossovers and almost all seem to emanate from somewhere in China, e.g.,

1889–1890 Asian or Russian Flu Pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_flu_pandemic

1918-1919 "Spanish" Flu Pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Hypotheses_about_the_source Despite the name the most likely theory is that this pathogen, an H1N1 virus, originated in China and mutated to become highly lethal in Europe or European-settled countries as a result of WW I. S

1957-1958 Asian Flu Pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957%E2%80%9358_influenza_pandemic

1968-1969 Hong Kong Flu Pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu

2002-2004 SARS outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome

2009-2010 Swine Flu Pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic A new strain of the H1N1 virus type that was responsible for the 1918-1919 Pandemic

Robert White , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:33 pm GMT
Taking a scientific approach to American deep state biowarfare attack on China's Wuhan district is telling in so far as Americans literally control tertiary education throughout the entire world via funding in the trillions.

If the deep state wants to eliminate academics it can do so with merely a phone call to Law Enforcement branches at a moments notice so that research & hard drives can be confiscated and destroyed early on in investigations.

Once the media & journalistic propaganda arms of state get hold of the official talking points to be disseminated the end game zero sum result is usually exactly what the state arms of propaganda have wanted all along.

To be frank, I am an Intel thinker and am well aware of the details of the CIA led biowarfare attack on China, but attaining the required data in empirical form via Requests for Information from government is NOT going to ever yield synthesis required for scientific peer-review research.

Bottom line is that the CIA had one CIA Agent/Operative deploy the nCov-19 in late October as the USA Military contingent was departing Wuhan district. The operative deployed the bioweapon via glass ampule smashed onto the ground to the entrance way for the Wuhan restaurant district near to the Wuhan Wet Market. Moreover, his CIA handler gave him the protocol & instruction on deployment of the bioweapon back in the United States of America long before the actual deployment.

Lastly, Fort Detrick scientists developed the Chimera super-spreading viral pathogenicity with a herd of pigs in the USA before hand in around 2012. Logistics of setting up the Wuhan BSL-4 laboratory scientists for the false flag event of biowarfare were dependent upon academic arrests before hand so that deflection & impression management for governance would clearly be able to utilize plausible deniability where required.

In sum, as one acutely aware of the bioterrorism that the United States of America has unleashed on the world covertly I, for one, can assure all that the US Deep State knowingly unleashed nCov-19 to undermine China's meteoric rise in the financial world due to America's incompetence writ large across the board since the Great Financial Crisis revealed that America is swimming naked and their Emperor is wearing no clothes to reveal his infinitesimally small Johnson in contradistinction to President Johnson's Johnson which was historically infamous.

P.S. The USA Deep State can get in line to lick my balls in deference to my superior intellect.

Thank you, thank you very much!

RW

anonymous [400] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:33 pm GMT
First, can researchers take a look at this virus and determine with certainty whether it was artificially concocted in a lab or if it simply evolved out in the open? If so then that would help focus the discussion. If not then things will remain opaque.
The Iranian government outbreak is strange but then people congregating with each other, like at ski resorts, pass it to each other. If it was a US biowarfare attack then how did US agents get access to them? They wouldn't have the cover of some delegation to an event such as military games. But what was the effect on Iran? Zero. Some top leaders got sick and some older members died. They have replacements and the government continues without missing a beat. This idea that an ideal bioweapon would be highly contagious with a low lethal rate so as to tie up resources and halt the economy sounds good but in practice it's hardly more than harassment. It slowed up the Chinese economy but that's a temporary blip and they're back now. The US and other countries are hardest hit economically. Many businesses will never recover. This is self-inflicted. The lethality of this virus looks to be increasingly lower and lower each time one looks despite all the Chicken Littles who were screaming that the sky was about to fall. Was there a purpose for that?
The Wuhan outbreak coincided with the military games but things happen at random times as it is. People were crowded in there. The various plagues and viruses have been going from East to West for a very long time now. The problem is that currently there are many who have an interest in lying and misdirecting things which further muddy the waters.
Astuteobservor II , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:36 pm GMT
@Emslander What is crazy and funny is that supposed trump supporters thinks China would shrink it's economy by 6.8% for the first quarter of 2020 to help Trump's opposition.

The same supposed supporters don't even realized that the best way for trump to win the next election is to stamp out this damn virus asap. Denying is not going to work. Testing n quarantine combo is what would work. It is why trump changed his tune.

Dumbasses. Crazy n stupid.

denk , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:42 pm GMT
Who's a track record of extreme malfeasance against China, since ww2 ?

1950 Korean war,
1959 Tibet,
1962 Indo./sino war,
1965 [[[CIA/MI5]]] INdon genocide on ethnic Chinese.
1989 TAM,
1998 Indon pogrom , mass rapes on ethnic Chinese
1999 BOmbing of Chinese embassy in ex Yugo,
2001 Hainan spy plane, Chinese pilot died.
2003 SARS1,
2008 Tibet riots,
2009 Xinjiang bloodbath,
2013 Bird flu H7N9 , Asia pivot
2014 Xinjiang, HK, Mh370, bubonic plague, Ebola, Dengue,
2018 bird flu, H7N9
2019 HK, Xinjiang, swine flu, army worms,
2020 SARS2, H5N1, locusts .

All biowarfare attacks highlighted.

refl , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:43 pm GMT
@Vaterland

And there were also the proxy-war in Ukraine and the refugee crisis: the latter at minimum a fallout of US-Israeli wars in the Middle East and the Zionist assault against Libya; yet not unlikely itself a direct assault against Europe. And not only Willy Wimmer, closest adviser to our old chancellor Helmut Kohl, strongly suspected as much already back in 2015.

Thanks for that context. It is exactly what I am trying to call attention to the whole time. Regardless, how much reality there is to Corona, my issue is the overall timing in the geopolitical context, with Europe being torn apart between the Angloamericans and China / Russia on the other side. That was the agenda anyway, so how is it possible that this threat appears at this very moment?

It can be said that had Corona not happened, the powers to be would have needed to invent it.

Else, in skimming the comments, I find that until now (with some 140 comments) there are hardly any discussions, but everyone pushing their own narratives.
Mabe, it is possible to get away from the question, how and if Corona is deadly to the context that is developing. I have to admit that I did not take Corona serious enough from the start, not as an illness, but as a fundamental threat to our societies. In that sense, it is indeed a war.

Jus' Sayin'... , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:49 pm GMT
@hs4691506 There was also some evidence that Chinese researchers under his supervision had smuggled samples of his work out of their labs and back to China. Chinese researchers, working in the USA and Canada, have a history of smuggling viral and other lab samples back ti China. It's part of a much larger pattern of Chinese espionage and intellectual theft.

A search on DuckDuckGo.Com using the following search string, "chinese scientists smuggling viral samples", turns up a lot of useful information on smuggling of viral and other biological samples. (I no longer trust Google. DuckDuckGo is less censored and does not track its users)

Similar searches using the strings "chinese intellectual theft" and "chinese scientific espionage" will provide a broader picture.

BTW, I believe that Israel and the USA have both been conducting research into potential bio-weapons. I would not be surprised if the Chinese got a leg up on such research by espionage targeting both countries. Of the three, the USA's research is probably the most benign/least vicious. I suspect that the Israelis have been ruthlessly researching and developing biological weapons, just as they did nuclear and chemical weapons. The Chinese have probably been doing bio-weapons research just as ruthlessly. The biggest concern with the Chinese is that, compared against Israel and the USA, their lab safety, security and containment procedures are lax to an obscenely dangerous degree. One can only hope that after the Wuhan outbreak, this attitude, if not the Chinese bio-weapons research, will change.

Hang em high , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:53 pm GMT
This is a model opening argument for an ICC bill of indictment against the CIA command structure. The bird's-eye view is exactly right – all of CIA's gravest crimes have been most evident not at the detailed technical level but at the organizational level. CIA can shred all the MIPRs and RFPs and after-action reports they want, but the proof of all CIA crime is public information about the actions of CIA focal points in government. (Incidentally, one example you don't mention is official obstruction, including CDC, of Helen Chu's coronavirus testing. That would have shown that COVID-19 was far too widespread for a single introduction from Wuhan. Another example is the series of airport clusterfucks that muddled US haplotypes when Chinese researchers noted that they point to US origins.)

The presumption of incompetence probably has its own CIA memo analogous to 1035-960. If they can get you to tacitly assume that CIA works in the national interest, but ineptly, then you misinterpret everything. CIA is a criminal enterprise with ongoing profit centers that fund opportunistic crimes from asset-stripping to aggression.

When you're using a banned biological weapon, domestic casualties confer important benefits:

First, damage to the US can help obfuscate attribution. Philip Giraldi articulates that line in its clearest form, Why would the government shoot itself in the foot like that?

Second, US contagion offers a pretext for domestic repression: house arrest; overt contact chaining illegally undertaken by NSA for decades; forcible derogation of your rights of assembly and association.

Third, US economic devastation is used as a pretext for looting the fisc on an unprecedented scale. Blackrock now performs central planning on behalf of the Fed, forcing the state to guarantee a overwhelming volume of worthless and fraudulent securities.

Illegal warfare that is difficult to attribute has one intractable problem. It's a sneak attack in breach of the Hague Convention Relative to the Opening of Hostilities. That convention was the legal justification for the first use of nuclear weapons. So if Russia and China nuke the beltway into a sinkhole of molten basalt, that's only fair.

If it is established that COVID-19 is a banned biological weapon, this is self-evidently the gravest crime in world history. The attack manifestly constituted aggression with an absolutely indiscriminate weapon. It defies considerations of proportionality with unknown global effects. The Nazi regime was extirpated for much less.

The evidence is very close to probative, and mounting.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/04/18/breaking-exclusive-cias-covid-19-weaponization-program-outed-in-long-buried-ny-times-expose/

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/04/18/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/04/18/pravda-us-army-created-covid-19-in-2015-research-proofs-or-debunking-you-pick/

https://www.nature.com/articles/274334a0

https://www.unz.com/wwebb/all-roads-lead-to-dark-winter/

https://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/

Agent76 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:56 pm GMT
Apr 16, 2020 Corona Virus, Economic & Social Collapse: Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Corona Virus, Economic & Social Collapse: Bankruptcy, Debt & Poverty.

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Apr 4, 2020 ΝYC-ΙCU DR unknowingly describes the EFFECTS of 60GHz on patients.

Mar 16, 2020 CONFIRMED! 5G Forced Installation In Schools Nationwide During COVID-19 Lockdown

Guys, you need to get involved and do anything you can to spread this information.

AriusArmenian , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:56 pm GMT
@Tor597 I couldn't say it any better than Tor597.
Americans are not capable of even thinking that their elites could be so evil.
Robert Snefjella , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 2:58 pm GMT
There is the question of natural vs artificial origin of the novel corona virus, and from my layman's research and considerations it seems increasingly that an artificial origin is extremely likely. The pertinent technology is now widely available, there has been a massive ongoing effort in the field since the 2nd WW, and many researchers and knowledgeable people are drawing the conclusion of likely artificial origin: So, for example, George Webb's work, or the Czech scientist Dr.Sona Pekova, PhD, who near the end of the video linked to describes the virus in such a way as to indicate a great likelihood of artificial creation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmL7okhbVzU&feature=youtu.be

There are many possible perpetrators. And a few likely suspects.

The ultimate health implications of the new virus are impossible to say with certainty at this point: For example, Paul Craig Roberts' website's latest title is "Bad News From the Virus if Correct", with the point being that there are now known to be a lot of different strains with presumably different potential for harm, but there may be many more not recognized.

There are additional contextual considerations that will have consequences which are anyone's guess. So for example, last year saw many widespread agricultural catastrophes and difficulties which were usually weather related. If the weather continues to be uncooperative, in conjunction with food production and transportation problems related to the virus, in conjunction with the African Swine Flu disaster, then human health and food security, and thus health, on a large scale may be affected.

Another contextual consideration is the recent rapid and accelerating deployment of 5G technology, which many are concerned can make life more vulnerable to health problems. It may just be coincidental, but worth noting, that tiny San Marino, enclosed by Italy, boasted of being the European leader in the rollout of 5G technology, and is now the world leader in corona virus deaths per million, by a long shot (San Marino with 1179 deaths per million as of today compared to second place Spain with 455 per million, and yes, Spain has been among the most ambitious countries in rolling out 5G in many cities. And Wuhan was the very poster 'child' of 5G. Just saying.)

Shutting down the world economy seems rather dire. But it may just be the impetus for a radical rethink of the basic structure and design of the global economic system.

The global paradigm which in economic terms might be described as globalism, or 'when private corporations rule the world', or neo-liberalism, or plutocracy running amuck, or grasping for 'global government', or the aftermath of the chimera of 'full spectrum domination', or in the wreckage of Rockefeller's and Kissinger's et al wet dream, or democracy spurned, is now inescapably obviously retarded, dysfunctional: a fundamental design flaw if you want humanity and Earth to thrive. In short, the culture of deception.

Someone has suggested as symptomatic of our present predicament a cartoon featuring Fauci with his bio-weapon declaring this as 'the age of the Ork', with crazed Bill Gates as Gollum wielding a syringe and gleefully chortling 'my precious!'.

The local, one's back yard, the decentralized, the careful common sense community, the regional, and the actually democratic national, with the public interest protected by the public, and much honest discourse, as one basic design alternative.

vot tak , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT
Useful article by Unz which connects the dots well. One important dot which is missing, though, in his analysis of the psywar promoting propaganda that the virus leaked out of a lab in Wuhan, and is a Chinese biowarfare agent, is that this psywar originated with an israeli military-intelligence operative. One dany shoham. This individual was also deeply involved in the "iraq has wmds" psywar operation at the beginning of the century. More on that dot and how it connects to the others, later.

A few days ago I wrote this about how the israeloamericans are framing their psywar campaign against China:

The israeloamericans are working on a several level strategy which includes back-ups in my opinion. The israeloamericans are trying to cover all the bases at once.

So they claim China created the virus in a lab, in case it gets out it was lab created, meaning israel or the usa created it in a lab. The israeloamericans claim the virus leaked out of the Wuhan lab in case evidence is found that israeloamerica deliberately planted the virus in Wuhan or it spread from a source in the usa through some other vector. The israeloamericans claim China mislead the world about the virus so people wont notice the reality that China has successfully thwarted the virus, while trump & co. have continued making it worse. The claptrap about China under reporting victims is a variation of the latter tactic. And so on.

Is what is being reported in the following article "damage control"?

Neither 'lab' nor 'wet market'? Covid-19 outbreak started months EARLIER and NOT in Wuhan, ongoing Cambridge study indicates

https://www.rt.com/news/486194-study-coronavirus-southern-china/

Another vector in the israeloamerican preemptive strategy? Now that research is showing the virus may have been infecting people earlier and neither a market in Wuhan, or even Wuhan itself, may be where it originated?

With regard to western response to the pandemic, especially american, the delay in israel's trump colonial regime's containment response to the virus tells me they deliberately wanted the virus to spread across the country and cause the ruckus it is now causing. The question is why israel had them do this.*

* Compare the israeli response, IE: strong proactive containment strategy, to the weak responses in most zionazi colonies. It is clear there is an actual strategy underlying this difference. And it entails more than israel being sacrosanct.

Keep in mind that trump, and his corrupt regime, are israel's property. More specifically, they tepresent the israeli likud freakshow (netanyahoo and related subhuman garbage). Most of what trump says and the policies his regime follow, originate from tel aviv. Trump's cowardly "blame China" campaign, duplicated by the zionazi western media (commonly misnamed the msm) is israeli psywar.

davidgmillsatty , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT
@onebornfree See my post at 135 regarding three different variants: A, B and C. The most prevalent in Asia is B and the most prevalent variants in Europe and the US are A and C. So it could also be that A and C variants are more virulent than B.
Felix Culpa , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:05 pm GMT
"By any reasonable measure, the response to this global health crisis by China and most East Asian countries has been absolutely exemplary, while that of many Western countries has been equally disastrous. Maintaining reasonable public health has been a basic function of governments since the days of the city-states of Sumeria, and the sheer and total incompetence of America and most of its European vassals has been breathtaking. If the Western media attempts to pretend otherwise, it will permanently forfeit whatever remaining international credibility it still possesses."

So saying, Ron Unz forfeits whatever credibility he might have retained by now acknowledging the data emerged from "the fog of war" he found himself pronouncing in a month or more ago.

Like Unz, and after examining the relevant Chinese data, epidemiologists Knut Wittkowski( almost a month ago) saluted the Asian approach to handling the novel virus threat.

Unlike Unz, Wittkowski revealed that what was salutary was the Chinese government's allowing the populace to gain herd immunity before instituting any lockdown measures. (rendering the lockdown measures a mystery from a scientific point of view).

So, and according to Wittkowski- a man with credentials relevant to this story, yet completely ignored by Unz' investigative article- the incompetence of Western governments cited by Unz is the clean reverse of what he claims: it is the incompetence of ignoring what the competent Chinese did not ignore, namely, the sound scientific counsel to allow the virus to spread, granting the herd immunity to the populace which protects the elderly and fragile self-quarantining until that immunity is gained.

Anon [312] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:05 pm GMT
@TG There's 3 possibilities:

1) Virus is US bioweapon attack on China
2) Virus is China's own bioweapon accident
3) Virus happened in nature, and everybody is trying to profit off the crisis or contain/direct the damage to their own interests.

That's 66% percent chance it's an accident.

Government in power were sane enough to avoid nuclear war as recently as 40 years ago. Why would they be crazier today? Biowarfare is Mutually Assured Destruction, too. If people can model this away, please provide a link.

annamaria , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:08 pm GMT
@swamped You are cognitively blind to the obvious -- the ZUSA has become ZUSSR (minus excellent Soviet educational system). Before lamenting "Chinese despots" and "their contempt for civil liberties," think for a moment about the fate of Assange (why he is in a high-security prison?) and about the Banksters on the march (the financialization of the US economy).

What is the state of "liberties" in the US and the UK? -- Gay parades. Quantitative Easings for eternity.
Why some 1000 American military bases encircle the globe? Why 25 American biofare laboratories reside in Europe? You are cheerleading for Cheneys and Rubins (read General Smedley Butler). https://fas.org/man/smedley.htm
http://armswatch.com/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk_

Libya used to be a prosperous state with universal healthcare and excellent educational opportunities. Enter the "non-totalitarian" and "non-despotic" deciders to bring in "liberties." First, the US/NATO expropriated Libyan gold, and then a regular business of "liberation" took place: since the "non-totalitarian" and "non-despotic" liberators entered Libya, a civil war commenced, the healthcare and educational systems have collapsed and slave markets sprang.

Or perhaps you are proud of freedom of information in the US?

This important story was immediately summarized in many of the world's other most prestigious publications, but encountered an absolute wall of silence in our own country.

How much trillions have been disappeared by the Pentagon? -- 21 (twenty-one). A lot of money that could be used for initiating great national projects of all kinds.
Why the US industries have been relocated to China? -- Because this is what US corporations demanded and got. What deciders want, they get. Read General Smedley Butler, again.

httpx://dilyana.bg/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1.png

denk , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:09 pm GMT
@anon Another problem with your imagination is that it doesnt pass the Who Test kit

Nobody has produced a smoking gun.
Its all about probability.

By all indications,
A FUKUS FF is the most likely .
Your CON theory reeks of the classic western projection..

Bandits crying robbery

James Scott , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:10 pm GMT
@Tor597 Yes Ron's tribe is doing great because of this.
MLK , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT
@Otto von Komsmark

For many weeks President Trump and his political allies had regularly dismissed or minimized this terrible health threat, and suddenly now faced with such a manifest disaster, they have naturally begun seeking other culprits to blame.

I stopped reading after this childish fib.

Si1ver1ock , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:20 pm GMT
I'm a little worried about The Unz Review. This pandemic is already being used to consolidate the economy and The Powers That Be are likely to use it to settle scores and purge dissident voices.

TruthDig is down and other media is likely to go down soon as ad revenue collapses. I would have advised ad revenue from foreign sources like Aeroflot (and others outside the U.S. Oligarchy), but airlines are collapsing and international travel is likely to be down for a while.

Maybe just open a Patreon Account and put a link in the sidebar.

It may be a good time to be extra cautious and gird your loins as they say.

Jake , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:20 pm GMT
Whatever anyone may make of Unz's assessment, I think everyone not insane or evil or mindlessly jingoistic should agree with this: "Everyone knows that America's ruling elites are criminal, crazy, and also extremely incompetent."

By the way – I hope Unz has changed his mind about the bombing of Serbia. Anytime Neocons assert the need to use violence to help Moslems, the reasonable man smells not a rat, but a million putrid rats.

Tor597 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:23 pm GMT
@Pheasant Zerohedge used to be libertarian and antiestablishment but something changed and they are now right wing neocons.
denk , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT
@Jus' Sayin'...

I would not be surprised if the Chinese got a leg up on such research by espionage targeting both countries. [SIC]
Of the three, the USA's research is probably the most benign/least vicious [ SIC ]

ROFLAMO

How fucking old are you kid ?

Back to your Harry Potter forchrissake
This is an adult site.
Do you want me to inform your mom ?

Jake , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT
@Tor597 Correct. The Elites of the Anglo-Zionist Empire will get richer from all this, while the white American middle and working classes will get poorer.

Much the same will happen in the UK and France and other European nations.

RT , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT
This and many other analyses focus primarily on governments, USA government, Chinese communistic government etc. and their past misadventures as proofs for their involvement or not involvement in the current disaster. I would like to see at least one extensive analyse of possible involvement of the nongovernment governments. Their interests and gains from this situation. Regards!
Tor597 , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:29 pm GMT
@Jason Crew If the US had come away with minimal damage there would not be the outrage required to go to war with China.

So America had to be infected and the pain had to be real.

Also, while main Street Americans are feeling the pain, the elites have been bailed out and will buy assets on pennies to the dollar.

There was a bubble that had to pop anyways, this way the elites get bailed out. Remember how many CEOs retired just before this hit?

davidgmillsatty , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:31 pm GMT
Cambridge geneticist discusses the three strains of Coronavirus:
utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:32 pm GMT
@Felix Culpa Another victim of Knut Wittkowski.
Ano0nymous , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:33 pm GMT
@denk Not the "war crimes" bit again. Look, the whole operation was one big war crime, and that according to the US Secretary of State. Same with Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq -- overthrow of another state for no compelling reason. So what? War is war, and China can either participate or not. If it participate, it can expect to become part of the general destruction.
Analogy -- if somebody is in your house and gets violent, that's a crime. You are legally able to protect yourself. If the person starts to run, you can't shoot she/he/it because she/he/it is no longer a threat. Sure, the other she/he/it started the crime, but that doesn't mean you can commit a crime of your own (shooting somebody when she/he/it isn't an immediate threat). Should she/he/it turn around and start returning fire, well, it just might be that she/he/it is legally doing so.

So enough of this "you stepped on a crack and so you've transgressed the law in one particular, so you are absolutely condemned" stuff. You want to play that game, people get tired of it, and it has a bad endgame. Try playing it on COVID-19. COVID-19 might listen to you and depart. Go, use your moral authority and save us all.

FLgeezer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:40 pm GMT
Never let a crisis go to waste. The following borders on the hilarious and the propaganda never ends.

https://www.local10.com/news/world/2020/04/21/israeli-survivors-remember-holocaust-amid-virus-quarantine/

Greg Bacon , says: Website Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT

"..if a nation expects to be ignorant & free, in a state of civilisation, it expects what never was & never will be."

http://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/327

From a Thomas Jefferson letter to Charles Yancey.

Since the Israeli masterminded 9/11 false flag, the MSM has told us a gazillion lies about what DID NOT happen that day.
When those lies started losing luster, we were told Bin Laden was killed, but they offered no proof, other than "Trust Us.'

Then we started getting lies about ISIS, DAESH, al Nusra etc, that they were even worse than al CIA Duh, when in fact, they were started, funded, paid, protected and give air cover by the US/Israel and the Kingdom of Head Choppers.

Now the same MSM is braying that Covid will be the end of the world, unless we give up our freedoms?

Bull. We're being lied to again and the sad part is, many are falling for this latest line of horse apples.

In Coronavirus We Trust: Medical Surveillance State For A Gov That's Experimented On You 239 Times

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/daily-wrap-up/coronavirus-we-trust-medical-surveillance-state-for-gov-thats-experimented-on-you-239-times/

Aleksander , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT
When are people going to realize that the mandatory vaccine is ready NOW – Gates, Fauci, Davos, the oligarchs, and the usual suspects just needed to lay the groundwork. It's ready to go now. Doesn't take much of a gedanken experiment to see the end-game here.
Mustapha Mond , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT
@utu "Yes, what if the chief objective was not to hurt China by disrupting its society and economy but to make the whole world angry with China."

If the planning was like 9/11, then both of these objectives would have been carefully scrutinized and maximized.

Bear in mind something, please: who says these bastards are finished unleashing designer bugs?

Would it not be wisest for these evil geniuses to keep the bugs coming, intensifying the impact so that the continuously simmering anger of the increasingly desperate masses can be directed to boil over at the Chinese menace when the 'elites' deem it necessary and proper. And with exploding unemployment numbers, especially among the young, and no real short term job or career prospects, these psychopathic 'elites' have a ready-made source for boots on the ground, should that be mandated.

Of course, I hope all this turns out to not be the case. But if 9/11 was any indication, these bastards will be brazen and shamelessly murderous.

Beefcake the Mighty , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:53 pm GMT
This site's credibility is going down faster than the financial markets. It's only good for entertainment value at this stage.
follyofwar , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:59 pm GMT
@Max Powers When you said that Ron Unz lost you with his defense of NATO in the unnecessary Serbian war, I hope that you read the rest of the article rather than stopping there. I, too, smelled a Bill Clinton obfuscation at the time, as I always do when any US president sends our troops to war. I'm a little surprised that Mr. Unz didn't.

However, I respect his honesty, and he more than redeemed himself in the rest of his well-researched and well-written article. It did much to bolster my belief that the CIA/Neocons are behind it. Although, discounting the unfairly derided Beltway outsider Mr. Trump, I've never considered the likes of such people as West Point grad SOS Pompeo as being incompetent. To paraphrase the former CIA head: "we lie, we cheat, we steal."

annamaria , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 3:59 pm GMT
@Hail The 9/11 beats it.
Weston Waroda , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:00 pm GMT

But America and several European countries avoiding adopting these same early measures such as widespread testing, quarantine, and contact-tracing, and have paid a terrible price for their insouciance.

For someone ordinarily quite careful in your use of terminology, you conflate the term quarantine with lockdown. This is usually being done these days in the media to make a lockdown seem less unreasonable to the insouciant public. Properly a quarantine is the isolation of the sick to prevent the spread of contagion to the healthy public. What we have are lockdowns, restricting the free movement of the healthy population. These have been resorted to out of the desire "to do something," but unfortunately as you must know, there is absolutely no empirical evidence that lockdowns do any good when all is said and done, and they do considerable economic harm. Sweden used a relaxed social distancing approach without a lockdown, and their mortality rate is currently less than that of most countries that resorting to this authoritarian approach.

Mustapha Mond , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:01 pm GMT
@Quintus "Another financial reset was also long overdue, as Greg Mannarino and others have pointed out: the coronavirus cover was too perfect of a tool for deflecting the guilt from the Fed and the banksters; killing many birds with one stone, the virus is also a 2) powerful psy-op hurting China's image in the world, 3) further delivering a strong blow to its export-driven economy; 4) it sets the stage for the cashless society ("dirty bills not accepted here!"), the advent of digital currencies and 5) top-down surveillance."

Exactly!

This planned-demic is like a Timex watch for the PTB: the gift that keeps on giving.

You are spot-on when you say that digital currencies and top-down surveillance will be enabled by this oh-so-convenient viral pandemic.

Like I said, it's a neoliberal zionist-neocon elitist's wet dream come true, maybe even more than 9/11 was.

I guess we all get to watch, wait and see what happens next .

Si1ver1ock , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:14 pm GMT
One thing I have been waiting for is confirmation that HIV is somehow involved in the virus, making it a chimera and tipping the scale towards bioweapon.
Greg the American , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:19 pm GMT
@anon If Trump was in on it, he didn't do much of a job making himself a hero, several missteps are noticeable in the view of 20/20 hindsight, even if he intentionally wanted to crash the economy he would have scripted it better.
denk , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:19 pm GMT
@Ano0nymous I've difficulty reading your incoherent rant, but this one sticks out

overthrow of another state for no compelling reason. So what? War is war

Enuff said.

No more comment.

36 ulster , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:19 pm GMT
@MLK Unz.com seems to be less a blog than an online asylum; Ron and most of the KrazyKommentariat have really flipped their tinfoil Trilbys this time. This site is worse than Infowars is reputed to be–yet utterly without the entertainment value. You wonder why Pat Buchanan, Steve Sailer and Bertie Woostershire continue to post on this site. And, yes, why I bother to comment.
Mustapha Mond , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:23 pm GMT
@Tor597 "Zerohedge used to be libertarian and antiestablishment but something changed and they are now right wing neocons."

Their true colors are emerging for all to see.

I recognized early on what exactly Zerohedge was about: sayanim-directed, intelligently controlled opposition. Very intelligently controlled, I should say.

Or as I call it, "Zio-hedge".

The trick is to give lots of good analysis and establish credibility, and then on the absolutely critical issues, subtly reinforce the neocon narrative. Then, slowly over time, not so subtly. Then, when the moment is ripe, openly and strongly support the neocon narrative. Again, a very intelligent and effective technique.

Sadly, we are now at the point of "openly" reinforcing the neocon narrative ..

Anon [223] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:24 pm GMT
Ron,
Your article is very good! Thank you for shedding some light on this issue

I would like to summarize a rebuttal to some of the points expressed in this article

However, your chart depicting America and China economic trends is statistically misleading

America started from a much higher bar than China, and it is harder for richer countries to grow. Furthermore, an additional dollar in per capita GDP for America is a less % growth than it would be for China.

Here is the GDP per capita growth from the World Bank for America vs China.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?locations=US-CN

Hardly, what your graph shows at all. In fact, this shows America adding more in Per capita GDP in real terms than China over the last thirty years.

It seems the issue is that you are thinking that China's exponential growth will continue till the point where it strongly surpasses the USA, like the Coronavirus's growth, but countries don't work like that. Unless you want to believe there was some policy reason for why Japan went from 10% to 1% growth in ten years.

Second, with respect to the domestic impoverishment of America, I think you are mistaken here. Most of those who are impoverished in America are immigrants and Black people, one group because of their recent arrival and location in America's most expensive cities. The other group because of their lack of time preference, so they don't save.

America has a higher household savings rate than all of Western Europe and Japan.
Per the OCED:
https://data.oecd.org/hha/household-savings.htm#indicator-chart

The US has three times the savings rate of Japan!

Additionally, the US has ten times the household disposable income of China as of last year, though this may change with the coronavirus:
https://data.oecd.org/hha/household-disposable-income.htm
https://www.statista.com/statistics/278698/annual-per-capita-income-of-households-in-china/

Additionally, How did China identify the virus so quickly? It is fairly hard to tell, even from those who died. According your own article, China shut down when they had 11 deaths, and sequenced the genome when they had even less. That has never happened before, and I feel that is suspicious to me. The offical Chinese narrative is that the Wuhan Goverment dropped the ball, so how did they catch the disease so early?

Rahan , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:24 pm GMT
An article by Mr. Unz is always worth the wait and then the read, no matter if I agree a 100%, 60%, or even just 20% with what has been written.

A real delight, and a sort of Christmasy feeling. Which is a very important psychological boost for the likes of me in such weird, weird times. Thanks!

denk , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:29 pm GMT
USAF excercise before 911
http://911blogger.com/news/2015-09-17/air-defense-exercise-month-911-was-based-around-osama-bin-laden-carrying-out-aerial-attack-washington//

UK/France War game before Libya invasion,
https://www.globalresearch.ca/when-war-games-go-live-staging-a-humanitarian-war-against-southland/24351?print=1

A Haiti Disaster Relief Scenario Tested by US Military One Day Before the Earthquake
Humanitarian excercise before Haiti quake
https://www.globalresearch.ca/a-haiti-disaster-relief-scenario-was-envisaged-by-the-us-military-one-day-before-the-earthquake/17122

Crimson [sic] Contagion,
An year long excercise on pandemic from Red China prior to CV 19

Another 'excercise' turning live ???

MacOisdealbh , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:29 pm GMT
The Winnipeg lab lead scientist, a Dr Plummer, dropped dead in Nigeria in early March.
He more than likely added the HIV 1 content to the Wu V to allow it to spread since he had the MERS variant from 2014 on.
His lab then had Wuhan Scientists escorted out by RCMP last summer.
No info as to why was offered, and Plummer was buddies with the Harvard prof, and both were recipients of Epstien the rapists financial support.
Ron always goes to the edge, but never ever steps off!!
Epstein should be brought up, he gave many millions to the Harvard and MIT people for virus development!! Cui bono Ron, cui bono, by deception, make war!!!
Anthony Aaron , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT
Not sure what to make of Mr. Unz's piece here -- there's a lot of room for any number of suspects to emerge as the guilty party here

One of the earliest questions I had was just how did this virus get into Iran -- which naturally begs the question of who has the most visible and ongoing hatred of Iran -- other than israel -- and their stooge, the United States.

The Newsweek article cited here about the class action lawsuits even mentions one of the plaintiff attorneys: "But Klayman claimed he has "whistleblowers with firsthand knowledge" of China's involvement in the viral outbreak who are currently residing in Israel and the United States and who can help substantiate this charge." So just who is it among 'whistleblowers' that reside in israel and in the United States (likely dual citizenship folks) -- other than israeli nationals?

And, from this article: "But by late February Iran had become the second epicenter of the global outbreak. Even more surprisingly, its political elites had been especially hard-hit, with a full 10% of the entire Iranian parliament soon infected and at least a dozen of its officials and politicians dying of the disease, including some who were quite senior.

" Across the entire world the only political elites that have yet suffered any significant human losses have been those of Iran, and they died at a very early stage, before significant outbreaks had even occurred almost anywhere else in the world outside China. Thus, we have America assassinating Iran's top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iranian ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?"

Even allowing for Iran's involvement by the chinese in its BRI -- how can anyone explain the virus so quickly targeting the elites in Iran's ruling class -- certainly they don't hang around with the chinese in Iran or elsewhere, do they?

ld , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:36 pm GMT
@Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist Your list is too small. I laugh at these comments regarding China's lies and crimes. Americans are surely the most gullible people on the planet. They know their corrupt government steals and lies to them daily yet they can still be manipulated to jump on the bandwagon of blame and hate towards anyone at anytime with a few inciteful articles from the media.
let me add to your list [MORE]
MLK
JFK
Ruby
USS Liberty
911
Venezuela
Honduras
Haiiti
Hiroshima
Vietnam
Syria
Palestine
Russia
Ukraine
Libya
Epstein
Afghanistan
32 Trillion dollars missing from the pentagone
All Presidential Elections

Hiding their own crimes against humanity, their government drug trade/sex trade/ chemical and biowarfare against poor countries.
The US of Israel so exceptional.

9/11 Inside job , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:44 pm GMT
@Mustapha Mond Agreed . Like 9/11 there is plenty of evidence in the predictive programming/revelation of the method/social conditioning that the Coronavirus pandemic was many years in the making see, for example : "WTF? Olympic Opening Ceremony 2012-NHS" YouTube . Yes, the London 2012 Olympic Games opening ceremony revealed part of the plot of the Coronavirus plandemic. I was expecting that something like this was going to happen ,but figured the cabal/cult/globalists/freemasons wouldn't try to pull it off until Americans were disarmed but , when you have total control of the media , it is easy to create hysteria and brainwash the public into believing that the Coronavirus, which is probably no more than the flu ,is the plague and will wipeout mankind unless everyone is locked-down . As another commenter has noted ,they probably could not have pulled off the international Coronavirus psyop 10 to 20 years ago because they did not have control and ownership of the worldwide massmedia . septemberclues.info has a good, short essay on "The central role of the news media on 9/11." Unless you stop relying on news from NPR, MSNBC, New York Times , Washington Post, Fox News , CBS , NBC ,etc,etc you will remain brainwashed and unable to understand that we are living through a planned-demic with a frightening agenda .
Chet Roman , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:44 pm GMT
@anon "Please do not comment on things you clearly don't understand. It is estimated that no more than a few percent of the American population has been exposed to Sars2 (Covid-19)."

The key word is "estimated". No one knows (not even you) the actual number of exposed Americans to the Wuhan virus. There have been some small random samples done by Dr.Bhattacharya that indicate that there is actually a large number of Americans that have been infected but are asymptomatic and that the final mortality rate will be closer to the annual flu or 0.1% to 0.2% instead of the guesstimate of 3%. The early studies are too small to think they are representative of the nation but the results indicate that larger studies are necessary in order to support nationwide policies, which are currently being made on hunches not science. About 60,000 to 80,000 died of the flu during the 2017 season when vaccines were available, so a large number of deaths during the flu season are not unusual and never required closing down the economy.

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Gov. Cuomo was screaming at the top of his lungs that he needed tens of thousands of ventilators, thousands are now sitting in his warehouses unused. So much for estimates. Most of the early estimates were wrong by exaggerating the death rate, which turned out to be only a guess rather than based upon science.

The CDC has been derelict in its duties over the years and has been giving poor advice. There are other experts in the field that have alternative views that are being ignored or dismissed and should at least be considered.

Prof. Johan Giesecke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=bfN2JWifLCY&feature=emb_logo

Dr. John Ioannidis

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

anonymous [245] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:50 pm GMT
@Ayatollah Smith I have been reading much about Covid-19, but am waiting for anyone, in or out of government, trying to blame China and/or exonerate Uncle Sam to deal with a particular point that anyone can easily appreciate using only a timeline:

The US needs to answer this question: HOW could US 'intelligence sources' possibly have known in November – or even October – of a potential pandemic of COVID-19 that would erupt – specifically in Wuhan – two months later? (Or that was already erupting in Wuhan at the time, unbeknownst to the Chinese?). I believe the entire world would demand the answer to this.

So far, nothing. No refutation, no rationalization, just silence. Like WTC-7, is this Achilles' heel from which the Establishment can only limp away?

I don't know who, what, when, where, or why this infection(s) began. But I'm certain that anyone dodging that particular question wants me not to.

MLK , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:52 pm GMT
@36 ulster Yeah . . .

In 2016, when I finally cancelled by NYT subscription, I was asked why I was doing so. I explained that I didn't like having my intelligence systematically insulted.

Like, I think, most UR readers, I'm game for pretty much anything as a general proposition.

But poor Ron couldn't make it more than 100 words into a droning 7,400 words with discrediting himself.

anonymous [206] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 4:55 pm GMT
When CIA whacked JFK, the whole world outside the US iron curtain knew, but too bad. When CIA blew up OKC, the whole world knew, but hey, it's their business. When CIA knocked down the WTC, on the second try, and blew up the Pentagon a bit to start a war, the whole world knew, but Russia was tits-up, unable to do anything about it.

This is different. CIA's illegal germ warfare is a maleficium, in legal doctrine going back to Grotius. CIA wronged the whole world, and the whole world has a joint obligation to hold CIA responsible. Russia and China made a missile gap for real, so now they can do it.

This is war. This is the very beginning of the world war that will end the CIA regime:

https://tass.com/world/1146127

Gina's gonna swing for this.

Anon [223] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:00 pm GMT
@Anon One problem with the chart that can be fixed to make it more representative is that the two countries should start from the same base of comparison. If you use two different bases, then you get the wrong comparison.
For instance, if you measured the US from China's base in 1980, the US added 40k in per capita gdp in the 40 years, reflecting a 4000% increase from China base in contrast to the 1400% increase that China had.
If you use the same base, then America is what looks like a superior country.
Beefcake the Mighty , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:00 pm GMT
@Mustapha Mond ZH isn't the only site whose true colors are showing
annamaria , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:04 pm GMT
@antitermite Unbelievable. A truly gifted researcher destroyed on the totally idiotic charges:

Charles M. Lieber (born 1959) is an American chemist and pioneer in nanoscience and nanotechnology. In 2011, Lieber was named by Thomson Reuters as the leading chemist in the world for the decade 2000-2010 based on the impact of his scientific publications. He is known for his contributions to the synthesis, assembly and characterization of nanoscale materials and nanodevices, the application of nanoelectronic devices in biology, and as a mentor to numerous leaders in nanoscience.

Awards:
Feynman Prize in Nanotechnology (2001)
MRS [Material Research Society] Medal (2002)
ACS Award in the Chemistry of Materials (2004)
NBIC Research Excellence Award in Nanotechnology, University of Pennsylvania (2007)
Inorganic Nanoscience Award, ACS Division of Inorganic Chemistry (2009)
Fred Kavli Distinguished Lectureship in Nanoscience, Materials Research Society (2010)
Wolf Prize in Chemistry (2012)
Nano Research Award, Tsinghua University Press/Springer (2013)
IEEE Nanotechnology Pioneer Award (2013)
Willard Gibbs Medal Award (2013)
MRS Von Hippel Award (2016)
Remsen Award (2016)
NIH Director's Pioneer Award (2017 and 2008)
John Gamble Kirkwood Award, Yale University (2018)
Welch Award in Chemistry (2019)

On January 28, 2020, Lieber was arrested on charges of making false statements to the U.S. Department of Defense and to Harvard investigators regarding his participation in China's Thousand Talents Program According to the Department of Justice's charging document, there are two counts of alleged crime committed by Lieber. The DOJ believes Lieber's statement was false

Alleged counts. The DOJ believes . Yet the DOJ never tried to arrest Madam Ghislaine Maxwell whose crimes have been confirmed unequivocally. Any news of the arrest of Mossad-connected Mr. Lauder who stole American technologies? https://www.newcoldwar.org/mega-group-maxwells-and-mossad-the-spy-story-at-the-heart-of-the-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/

As if deciders have decided that Charles Lieber knew too much to believe in their profitable fables.

MarkinLA , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:06 pm GMT
The only way "the US government did it" makes sense is if this was happening this coming November after Trump has been reelected. If the Deep State did it without Trump's approval, somebody will talk just like John Soloman claims FBI agents told him of the Russiagate conspiracy at the FBI while it was getting underway. Somebody would have alerted somebody loyal to Trump what was being planned. Remember Trump had to give the order to kill that Iranian general. The Deep State (full of Israel's toadies) didn't even do that on their own.

Of course, there is an answer for everything. It even makes more sense for Trump to do it now so he can fix it. The Deep State did it but Trump now has to cover for them or risk the world finding out how incompetent he is.

Rahan , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:07 pm GMT
Concerning "wet markets", I'd just like to add that 99% of those are normal "butcher's markets" with lamb, beef, pork, chickens, and sea produce, and 1%, in specific parts of the country, selling all the Cthulhu fhtagn stuff.

So China reopening some wet markets now is an argument neither for, nor against the zootropic theory. Because I'm pretty sure they're reopening the "lamb and chicken" wet markets, not the "H.R.Giger's nightmares" ones, such as the one in Wuhan that is one of the three possible origins.

1) Wuhan wet market
2) Wuhan lab
3) Wuhan based foreign troops taking part in the military Olympics

Has to be one of those three. Maybe the third was even accidental, but

Johnny Walker Read , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:12 pm GMT
Dr Andrew Kaufman exposing the 'Covid-19' magic trick – the sleight of hand that transformed society
Happy Tapir , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT
There's some interesting information in the article for sure, but it seems to me that if the US were to perform clandestine bio weapons attacks on another country, the Middle East and Russia would surely be the primary targets. We rely on China for a lot of things, such as virtually all the goods sold at Walmart and China owns a great deal of our debt, so it would seem to me a financially strong China is in our interest.

Moreover, plagues and epidemics, especially coronaviruses, have started in the far east as long as can be remembered.

Trinity , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT
@Anonymous This is about the most common sense post I have read on this site. SPOT ON. OUR current problems in regards to immigration, racial issues, Black criminality, and this (((virus))) can all be traced to one group for the most part. Btw, I was in NYC about the same time perion in '83-'87 and haven't been back since, but from what I understand, it is far worse today. I actually didn't find it that bad back then even though crime and drugs were out of control. Probably because I was a twenty-something and having fun.

Anyhow, as you said, WHY in the hell do ANY Americans, much less White Americans ALLOW RACIST JEWISH SUPREMACIST organizations have so much power over them. It isn't as if the ADL or $PLC try and hide their hatred for Whites. I would have no problem for any organization whether it be Black, Jewish or Hispanic fighting against racism, but lets face it, these organizations aren't fighting against racism, they main goal is to take away the rights of Whites or demonize WHITES ONLY.

"Life isn't complicated." And this (((virus))) isn't either. This shit was MANUFACTURED and we can only guess by whom and what their future intentions are down the road. As usual the usual suspects have already pretty much revealed themselves to anyone out there really watching. For the WILLFULLY ignorant ostriches and chinadidit people, well, they must like be lorded over by a tiny group of people who don't give two shits about them or their children.

Joey Pastrami , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:16 pm GMT
@Thulean Friend

the response of the West has been utterly atrocious either way.

What do you people wish happened -- Trump-issued national lockdown order back in January? Why do the death counts need to be artificially inflated if this virus is as deadly as the media says?

Joey Pastrami , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:17 pm GMT
The American media is run by jews. It's amazing how the great counter-semite, Ron Unz, seems to be unaware of this fact.
annamaria , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:19 pm GMT
@Gaius Gracchus The US intelligence services knew about the virus in the middle of November 2019 (before Chinese) and alerted Israel, NATO, and the US government about the "emerging disease in Wuhan." https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-alerted-israel-nato-to-disease-outbreak-in-china-in-november-report/

The US had the epidemics of a similar 'lung virus' (vaping disease) in January 2019 (a year before the announcement of the epidemic by Chinese). https://phpa.health.maryland.gov/OEHFP/EH/Pages/VapingIllness.aspx

These injuries often seem like pneumonia, but they are not caused by an infectious disease, and they do not improve with antibiotics. Respiratory symptoms reported include: shortness of breath, chest pain, pain on breathing, and cough. Other symptoms reported by many patients include: fever, chills, nausea, weight loss, vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain.

Fuerchtegott , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:21 pm GMT

Whether plausible or not, such accusations carry the gravest international implications, and there are growing demands that China financially compensate our country for its trillions of dollars in economic losses.

Aren't you comdedians Trillions deep in debt by the Chinese?
Since you'd never pay back anyway, they are in the face saving position to grant you very generous debt forgiveness.

utu , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:22 pm GMT
@Anon "Unless you want to believe there was some policy reason for why Japan went from 10% to 1% growth in ten years." – Absolutely, result of policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord

And China has the highest saving in terms of percent of their disposable income

follyofwar , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT
@Mustapha Mond Not to mention, Mr. Brave New World (how appropriate your name is), it fits in nicely with Bill Gates' plan for a massive reduction in world population. What freedom-loving young proles will want to form families and bring children into such a dystopia? Already, US whites are well below replacement rate and dropping. As of 2018 it was 1.73 babies per woman, 16% below replacement rate, the lowest rate ever recorded. Asian Americans are even lower at 1.525 (per the World Atlas).
Rafael Martorell , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT
@Chet Roman there things that are kmown:the almost universal economic damage that stopping the economy,as if it were a ball game,would bring,guaranteed
obwandiyag , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:27 pm GMT
@Ozymandias Just as I have been saying for a long time now, all you China-did-its are quarter-a-post troll farm trolls.

China-did-it trolls agree implicitly with our owners, and yet act like, ooh, they're big radicals. You hapless trolls.

Morton's toes , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:28 pm GMT
We all have one hand tied behind our back. There is nobody that I know of presenting information from inside the border of China to compare with Ronald Unz and his collaborators at unz.com . I have seen exactly one document in the last two years. It was a post on medium.com which purportedly was written by a Chinese ex-pat graduate student in British Columbia with google earth images analyzed to show the proliferation of concentration camps in Xinjiang for the retention of young male uyghurs.

Every single time I saw this document referenced on the internet it was followed up within an hour by a shower of posts from all over the place that it was CIA fake news.

Basically at most we know about 1/2 and it is tough to know what to do with that.

Ilya G Poimandres , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:28 pm GMT
@36 ulster Because articles with stated evidence linked to articles/research/legislation where it is taken from (unlike the MSM, that links nothing other than its own circle-jerk), and some implicit acceptance that the reader should have the freedom to decide for themselves – rather than being spoonfed 'truths' agreed upon somewhere 'up high' – offers people enough respect to allow them to accept that the webzine is not an ideological printout, but a spectrum of ideas, to be evaluated by the reader. This is a contract with consideration.

We have no truths from our elected leaders, or their stenographers in the MSM though.

When Trump says 'blame China', most of us see a bankruptcy merchant peddling a lie to weasel out and default on 1 trn $$ (Martyanov said it first methinks!) – cause that's what he does, and that's what he knows.

Unz offers a fairly balanced approach to conspiracy theory – not conspiracy hypothesis. Ain't seen any article on some dude claiming he got anal probed by little green men without any even anecdotal evidence.

This place debates the smoke, often without the fire. But it's a good start to some explanation for some fire. Much of the rest of the net doesn't look at the smoke, but instead distracts its audience with some other eye candy.

But hey, is it fair to complain – some people enjoy WWE!

Felix Culpa , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:29 pm GMT
@utu There's nothing like attacking the person (Wittkowski himself) in place of his point ( herd immunity already gained by Asians before lockdown) to demonstrate your bona fides.

Thanks for your back-handed admittal that you can't rebut his conclusion.

obwandiyag , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:29 pm GMT
I have been trying to get this across for an age. It's very simple. Anybody who says China did it is suspect. Not only does the import of their message suggest that the China-did-its are ruling-class-hired trolls, the trolly smartass tone suggests it, not to mention the illiteracy.
anon [414] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 21, 2020 at 5:33 pm GMT
@Other Side "The drastic changes in the Balkans in the 1990s and the disintegration of Yugoslavia in particular have resulted in a large number of publications attempting to explain the break-up of this country and the political developments in the Balkans. Some of these publications deal partly with the local Muslims who were engaged in the Balkan conflicts but, with some exceptions, they are focused mainly on recent developments, with less attention paid to the historical contexts in which the Muslim nationalist movements were shaped. Although religion played a more important role in the nation-building process of the Bosnian Muslims than in that of the Albanians, there are very few studies that examine the reasons for this and the impact of Islam on the Muslim nationalist movements in historical perspective. The following article examines from a comparative perspective the role of Islam in the Bosnian Muslim and Albanian national movements from the Ottoman period up to the end of the Cold War. The Sunni Muslims of Bosnia and the Albanians, who are divided into three religions and a variety of sects, present contrasting societal structures for the analysis of different aspects of Islam."
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233460310_The_Bosnian_Muslims_and_Albanians_Islam_and_nationalism

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"Immediately after the fall of communism in Albania in 1991, Arab Islamic fundamentalists infiltrated the mosques in the country, which is 70 percent Muslim. The interlopers represented the Saudi Wahhabis and the Egyptian disciples of today's al Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri. In spring 1999, a dozen of Al-Zawahiri's acolytes, known as the "Albanian Returnees," were deported from the eastern Adriatic republic to Egypt, tried, and sentenced to death or extended prison terms for terrorism. The "Returnees" had been told by their "sheikhs" to stay in Albania and avoid going to Kosovo, where NATO military forces were, by that time, thick on the ground. But Albania booted them out with alacrity. Evidence in the case of the "Albanian Returnees" proved extremely important in tracing the evolution of al Qaeda's Egyptian predecessors."

https://www.islamicpluralism.org/2033/arabs-iranians-and-turks-vs-balkan-muslims

we were all so suckered.

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[Apr 20, 2020] What If the Lockdown Was All A Big Mistake by Ron Paul

Goldman Sachs predicts that the economy will shrink 34 percent in the second quarter, with unemployment leaping to 15 percent.
Notable quotes:
"... Across the US, millions of businesses have been shut down by "executive order" and the unemployment rate has skyrocketed to levels not seen since the Great Depression. ..."
"... What if the "cure" is worse than the disease? ..."
Apr 20, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

From California to New Jersey, Americans are protesting in the streets. They are demanding an end to house arrest orders given by government officials over a virus outbreak that even according to the latest US government numbers will claim fewer lives than the seasonal flu outbreak of 2017-2018.

Across the US, millions of businesses have been shut down by "executive order" and the unemployment rate has skyrocketed to levels not seen since the Great Depression. Americans, who have seen their real wages decline thanks to Federal Reserve monetary malpractice, are finding themselves thrust into poverty and standing in breadlines. It is like a horror movie, but it's real.

Last week the UN Secretary General warned that a global recession resulting from the worldwide coronavirus lockdown could cause "hundreds of thousands of additional child deaths per year." As of this writing, less than 170,000 have been reported to have died from the coronavirus worldwide.

Many Americans have also died this past month because they were not able to get the medical care they needed. Cancer treatments have been indefinitely postponed. Life-saving surgeries have been put off to make room for coronavirus cases. Meanwhile hospitals are laying off thousands because the expected coronavirus cases have not come and the hospitals are partially empty.

What if the "cure" is worse than the disease?

[Apr 19, 2020] Ron Paul: People 'Should Be Leery About' a Coronavirus Vaccine by Adam Dick

Apr 14, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org


Ron Paul, in a Monday interview with host Dan Dicks at Press for Truth, warns that people "should be leery about" coronavirus vaccines that may come out. Further, says Paul, a doctor and former United States House of Representatives member, "right now I wouldn't think there is any indication for anybody to take them," noting that "scare tactics" are being used to pressure people into thinking they should take such potential vaccines to protect against coronavirus.

Paul supports this conclusion by stressing in the interview the potential danger of a vaccine as well as the overstated threat from coronavirus.

Regarding the potential danger from a coronavirus vaccine, Paul discusses at the beginning of the interview how, in 1976 in his first week as a House member, Paul was one of only two members, both doctors, who voted against legislation that helped rush through a vaccine in response to swine flu. Paul describes the results of the push for people to take the swine flu vaccine as follows:

They rushed the vaccine through. The vaccine was not properly made. It had nothing to do with the virus that was out there, so it saved nobody's life from it. It caused a lot of harm. More people ended up dying from the inoculation than died from the flu that year. And that sort of was a lesson, like that's a little bit too extreme. But, that's about what happens when governments get involved and you do things for political reasons.

There was also, because a lot of people ended up getting the vaccine, I think there were like 50 people or more who got Guillain-Barré syndrome, which is temporary total paralysis and you can die from it but most of them did get better. But, it was a very, very serious complication of a viral injection, you know, a vaccine.

Paul also discusses in the interview the overstated danger from coronavirus that is being used to scare people to take actions including to potentially take a coronavirus vaccine.

Paul notes that many of the people whose deaths have been blamed on coronavirus are elderly people, including people living in nursing homes, who have multiple other diseases. Further, explains Paul, doctors have "been instructed by [the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] and other politicians that, when the doctors sign the death certificate, if [patients] have four different things but they happen to have a positive test for the virus that is to be put down as the major cause of death." "The numbers mean nothing," concludes Paul regarding the daily tabulation of coronavirus deaths.

In addition, Paul explains that many more people than officially recorded have contracted coronavirus. Some of these individuals never became sick. Others got better without any treatment, says Paul, pointing to his son Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) as an example. While Rand Paul was given a test that confirmed he had coronavirus, most people who have had coronavirus and suffered no to minor medical problems have not been tested. With "probably millions of people" having contracted coronavirus, Paul concludes that the percentage of people who have contracted coronavirus and have died as a result "is probably very, very small."

While Paul says he would choose not to take a vaccine for the coronavirus should one appear next week even if people claim it is 99 percent effective, he says that the decision to take or not take a vaccine is one that should be made by each individual, who can discuss the vaccine alternative with a doctor. Absolutely, Paul concludes, that decision should not be made by government.

Watch here Paul's complete interview, in which he also discusses how government actions taken in the name of fighting coronavirus are harming the economy and his support for people speaking out for ending coronavirus-justified encroachments on freedom:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TblqxaQbtac


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[Apr 18, 2020] The CNN-Cuomo Brothers Inquisition, CovidGate And The Folly Of Lockdown Nation by David Stockman

Notable quotes:
"... By every measure, New York is the aberrant epicenter of the Covid-19 outbreak. So what you find in the New York stats has got to be definitive, but what they're conclusive about is the very opposite of the hysteria being propagated by the Cuomos & friends. ..."
"... The New York data, in fact, show that Covid-19 almost pinpointedly attacks the old, the frail, and the medically vulnerable, not the general population. ..."
Apr 18, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

We are getting sick and tired of the CNN/Cuomo Brothers inquisition and the Coviddeath Cavalcade. Their relentless, morose, partisan coverage of the coronavirus pandemic is the single greatest campaign of misinformation, disinformation, propaganda, scaremongering and elitist prattle we can recall in our entire lifetime.

Indeed, Joe McCarthy's Red Scare was a Sunday School picnic compared to CovidGate. And just as there were no commies secretly subverting America 66 years ago, there is no deathly contagion stalking the American people today and no public health emergency that remotely justifies the Lockdown Nation regime that the CNN/Cuomo Brothers and infectious disease lobby have foisted on the country with virtually no public debate or democratic accountability.

By every measure, New York is the aberrant epicenter of the Covid-19 outbreak. So what you find in the New York stats has got to be definitive, but what they're conclusive about is the very opposite of the hysteria being propagated by the Cuomos & friends.

The New York data, in fact, show that Covid-19 almost pinpointedly attacks the old, the frail, and the medically vulnerable, not the general population.

In turn, that means that public health measures should be focused on identifying, isolating, protecting, treating and supporting the very small sub-population that is bearing the brunt of the illness and deaths, while allowing the vast bulk of the population to get back to normal social and economic life forthwith.

As we document below, the peak of new cases and deaths is now in the rear-view mirror. So what we can glean from the New York stats through April 13th reporting is definitive and will only get even more definitive in the weeks ahead.

As of 1PM today, the nationwide death count "WITH" Covid-19 was 23,529. And we go full monte with CAPs, quotes, bolds and italics for the reason that it is self-evident the virus per se didn't kill many or most of these people: It triggered organ and function failures that were already embedded in pre-existing morbidities. And that truth is validated in spades by the New York data. As of this afternoon, New York had reported 10,834 corona deaths or 45% of the national total.

But when you look at the break-out by age categories and rates relative to population, the numbers are simply stunning:

In short, 18% of all the Covid-19 nationwide deaths crawling across the CNN screen today have been among New Yorkers 80 years and older; and 7,018 or 30% of national deaths and 65% of New York Covid-19 deaths have been among those 70 years and older.

To be sure, as a member of the 70+ class of New York residents, we don't begrudge anyone the longest and happiest life possible. But we are here talking about the appropriate public policy response to a bad winter flu and suggest that when the mortality ratio for the over 80 population is 222 times higher than for those under 50 years old, then one size surely does not fit all.

Indeed, when it comes to quarantines and contact tracing, the Cuomo brigade has it assbackwards. To wit, leave the general population alone where quarantine is unnecessary and contact tracing is a ridiculous needle-in-the-haystack waste of time, and target protection measures on the vulnerable, instead.

After all, in the entire state of New York there are only 382,000 souls age 80 or over. Would it not have been far more rational for Governor Cuomo's health department minions to track down these 382,000 vulnerable elderly rather than to shutdown the entire economy of the state in order protect 13.05 million folks under 50 years from a death risk which amounts to a minuscule 4.9 per 100,000?

In all honesty, that latter figure is a rounding error in the scheme of things. Every year in New York state, 11,760 persons under 50 years or 91.3 per 100,000 suffer an untimely death -- including 3,428 from auto and other accidents and 917 from suicides.

Since the infection wave, hospitalizations and death numbers have now clearly peaked and will be falling sharply in the weeks ahead (see above), we can say with some considerable confidence that when the Covid is gone, it is doubtful whether more than 917 New Yorkers under 50 -- the normal year suicide population -- will have died WITH the coronavirus.

That's 7.0 souls per 100,000 -- and its just plain insane to got into plenary Lockdown on their account -- especially because the predominant share of under 50 year-olds who have succumbed WITH the coronavirus were also suffering from one or more morbidities, especially hypertension, diabetes and COPD (see below).

Indeed, that gets us to the even more damning stats in the New York data. To wit, only 1,242 or 11% of New York's 10,834 Covid-deaths (as of April 13) were not accompanied by at least one of the top 10 co-morbidities.

By contrast, of the 9,592 cases with these conditions, the total co-morbidities were 19,280. That means the New Yorkers among this group died with an average of 2.01 comorbidities, and some with three or four.

Again, when you stratify by age, the injunction to identify, trace, isolate and treat by indicated vulnerability could not be more dispositive. Among the 4,130 persons aged 80 or older who have died in New York,

· 2,489 or 60% had hypertension;

· 1,264 or 31% had diabetes;

· 845 had hyperlipidemia (blood disorder);

· 605 had coronary artery disease;

· 819 had dementia;

· 425 had renal disease;

· 534 had COPD;

· 366 had cancer;

· 386 had congestive heart failure.

So Governor Cuomo, riddle us this. In lieu of your daily reality TV show and presidential campaign audition, way didn't you mobilize the doctors and health authorities to identify these 10,834 medically imperiled among the thousands more with like and similar conditions among the 382,000 octogenarians in your state in order that every possible precaution could have been taken weeks ago?

Compared to the needle-in-the-haystack idiocy of contact tracing among the general population, the state's doctors and health agencies do actually know the names, addresses and social security number of nearly every one of these medically vulnerable cases. That's where the resources should have gone -- not into a mindless Lockdown of the entire economy.

Indeed, when you look at the next most vulnerable category, the 1.26 million state residents aged 70-79, the story becomes even more compelling. In this age bracket, there have been 2,888 deaths WITH Covid reported as of April 13th, which, as indicated above, represents 272 per 100,000.

But, not surprisingly, 62%, 45%, 23% and 14% also had hypertension, diabetes, hyperlipidemia and coronary artery disease, respectively. In all, this group had 5,695 comorbidities among the to 10 diseases, which amounts to 2.0 per deceased.

In sum, 7,018 or 65% of the WITH Covid deaths in New York were 70 years and older and suffered from 13,800 instances of these major underlying illnesses that could have been readily identified by the doctors and health care professionals who treat them.

Likewise, even the 3,174 deaths among aged 50-69 overwhelmingly involved 4,848 comorbidities, including 2,930 cases of hypertension and diabetes alone.

Finally, among the 642 deaths under 50 years, there were fully 634 cases of the top 10 morbidities.

That is to say, there have been virtually no deaths among the disease free population under 50. Yet hundreds of thousands have been infected and tens of thousands have become symptomatic or sick, but recovered from this novel flu in the normal fashion.

Here's the thing. The US economy was so weakened by 30 years of debt, speculation and money-printing that its own economic "immune" system was at ultra low ebb.

So the Lockdown Folly will prove to be far more destructive than would have otherwise been the case. So now is the time for the Donald to do something constructive for once, and face-down the CNN/Cuomo Brothers and infectious disease lobby and stop cold the economic bleeding cure they have foisted on the US economy in the name of public health.

And now is the moment. During the last few days, the death rates have plunged in most of the nation, and clearly even New York has turned the corner as this chart makes abundantly clear.

But for want of doubt, here is the the nationwide gain in new cases WITH Covid-19. It is now down nearly 26% from its Good Friday peak, after accelerating in early April:

April 5-April 14 trend: 25,974, 28,752, 30,437, 30,130, 34,346, 34,617, 29,591, 28,983, 24,948, 25,699

So let us repeat: The New York Covid epicenter has provided the pretext for the present nationwide hysteria and insensible acts of economic suicide.

But its actual data show why the Lockdown should be ended now. To wit, the 1.64 million residents of New York over 69 years old account for just 0.5% of the US population, but have suffered 30% of the nation's deaths WITH Covid.

It is therefore time to tell the economy-wreaking Cuomo Brothers and their political cohorts and media megaphones to stand down and let America get back to work, and the doctors and health professionals refocused on the real victims of this nasty virus.

Reprinted with permission from David Stockman's Contra Corner .

[Apr 15, 2020] The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity Look at How Ridiculously Wrong All the Covid-19 Models Were

Apr 15, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

Look at How Ridiculously Wrong All the Covid-19 Models Were Written by Robert Wenzel Friday April 10, 2020
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The dotted line on the above map indicates the current trend of beds needed for COVID-19 in New York.

At present, only 18,279 are in use.

The professional forecasters all projected that beds would be a multiple of the beds actually needed.

Notice not one model came in under the actual number. These are all professional fearmongers who alarmed the country about a virus that appears to be in line with a severe flu season.

Can they really be that incompetent?

Some may be but I called the evil Tony Fauci out a month ago on his phony projections: Why is Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Lying to Congress and the American People?

He knows better.

Reprinted with permission from Target Liberty .

[Apr 15, 2020] Mossad False Flag Attacks on Jews by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... The Plot to Destroy America ..."
"... The recent tale of Israeli-American Michael Kadar, who has been credited with many of early 2017's nearly two thousand bomb scares targeting Jewish community centers and synagogues worldwide, is illustrative. ..."
"... The court in Tel Aviv convicted Kadar on counts including "extortion, disseminating hoaxes in order to spread panic, money laundering and computer hacking over bomb and shooting threats against community centers, schools, shopping malls, police stations, airlines, and airports in North America, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Norway and Denmark." It claimed that "As a result of 142 telephone calls to airports and airlines, in which he said bombs had been planted in passenger planes or they would come under attack, aircraft were forced to make emergency landings and fighter planes were scrambled." ..."
"... Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is ..."
Apr 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

Even though distracted by the havoc resulting from the coronavirus, the United States and much of Europe is engaged in a frenzied search for anti-Semitism and anti-Semites so that what the media and chattering class are regarding as the greatest of all crimes and criminals can finally be extirpated completely. To be sure, there have recently been some horrific instances of ethnically or religiously motivated attacks on synagogues and individual Jews, but, as is often the case, however, quite a lot of the story is either pure spin or politically motivated. A Jewish student walking on a college campus who walks by protesters objecting to Israel's behavior can claim to feel threatened and the incident is recorded as anti-Semitism, for example, and slurs written on the sides of buildings or grave stones, not necessarily the work of Jew-haters, are similarly categorized. In one case in Israel in 2017, the two street swastika artists were Jews.

Weaponizing one point of view inevitably limits the ability of contrary views to be heard. The downside is, of course, that the frenzy that has resulted in the criminalization of free expression relating in any but a positive way to the activity of Jewish groups. It has also included the acceptance of the dishonest definition that any criticism of Israel is ipso facto anti-Semitism, giving that nation a carte blanche in terms of its brutal treatment of its neighbors and even of its non-Jewish citizens.

Jewish dominated Hollywood and the entertainment media have helped to create the anti-Semitism frenzy and continue to give the public regular doses of the holocaust story. Currently there are a number of television shows that depict in one form or another the persecution of Jews. Hunters on Amazon is about Jewish Americans tracking and killing suspected former Nazis living in New York City in the 1970s. The Plot to Destroy America on HBO is a retro history tale about how a Charles Lindbergh/Henry Ford regime installs a fascist government in the 1930s. One critic describes the televisual revenge feast "as one paranoid Jewish fantasy after another advocating murder as the solution to what they perceive as the problem of anti-Semitism."

But, as always, nothing is quite so simple as such a black and white portrayal where there are evil Nazis and Jewish victims who are always justified when they seek revenge. First of all, as has been demonstrated , many recent so-called anti-Semitic attacks on Jews involve easily recognizable Hasidic Jews and are actually based on community tensions as established neighborhoods are experiencing dramatic changes with the newcomers using pressure tactics to force out existing residents. And after the Hasidim take over a town or neighborhood, they defund local schools to support their own private academies and frequently engage in large scale welfare and other social services fraud to permit them to spend all their days studying the Talmud, which, inter alia teaches that gentiles are no better than beasts fit only to serve Jews.

The recent concentration of coronavirus in Orthodox neighborhoods in New York as well as the eruption of measles cases last year have been attributed to the unwillingness of some conservative Jews to submit to vaccinations and normal hygienic practices. They also have persisted in illegal large gatherings at weddings and religious ceremonies, spreading the coronavirus within their own communities and also to outsiders with whom they have contact.

Regularly exposing anti-Semitism is regarded as a good thing by many Jewish groups because the state of perpetual victimization that it supports enables them to obtain special benefits that might otherwise be considered excessive in a pluralistic democracy. Holocaust education in schools is now mandatory in many jurisdictions and more than 90% of discretionary Department of Homeland Security funding goes to Jewish organizations. Jewish organizations are now lining up to get what they choose to believe is their share of Coronavirus emergency funding.

Claims of increasing anti-Semitism, and the citation of the so-called holocaust, are like having a perpetual money machine that regularly disgorges reparations from the Europeans as well as billions of dollars per year from the U.S. Treasury. Holocaust and anti-Semitism manufactured guilt are undoubtedly contributing factors to the subservient relationship that the United States enjoys with the state of Israel, most recently manifested in the U.S. Department of Defense's gift of one million surgical masks to the Israel Defense Force in spite of there being a shortage of the masks in the United States (note how the story was edited after it first appeared by the Jerusalem Post to conceal the U.S. role but it still has the original email address and the photo cites the Department of Defense).

And then there is the issue of Jewish power, which is discussed regularly by Jews themselves but is verboten to gentiles. Jews wield hugely disproportionate power in all the Anglophone states as well as in France and parts of Eastern Europe and even in Latin America. If anti-Semitism is as rampant as has often been claimed it is odd that there are so many Jews prominent in politics and the professions, most especially financial services and the media. Either anti-Semitism is not really "surging" or the actual anti-Semities have proven to be particularly incompetent in making their case.

Further muddying the waters, there have been a number of instances in which Jews have themselves been responsible for what have been claimed to be anti-Semitic incidents. There has also been credible speculation that some of the incidents have been false flags staged by the Israeli government itself, presumably acting through its intelligence services. The objective would be to create sympathy among the public in Europe and the U.S. for Israel and to encourage diaspora emigration to the Jewish state. The recent tale of Israeli-American Michael Kadar, who has been credited with many of early 2017's nearly two thousand bomb scares targeting Jewish community centers and synagogues worldwide, is illustrative.

Kadar, who holds both Israeli and American nationality, was arrested in Ashkelon Israel on March 2017 by Israeli police in response to the investigation carried out by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Kadar's American address was in New Lenox Illinois but he actually resided in Israel. Kadar's defense was that he had a brain tumor that caused autism and was not responsible for his actions, but he was found to be fit for trial and was sentenced to 10 years in prison in June 2017. He was apparently subsequently quietly released from prison and returned to Illinois in mid-2018. In August 2019 he was arrested for violation of parole on a firearms and drugs offense.

The court in Tel Aviv convicted Kadar on counts including "extortion, disseminating hoaxes in order to spread panic, money laundering and computer hacking over bomb and shooting threats against community centers, schools, shopping malls, police stations, airlines, and airports in North America, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Norway and Denmark." It claimed that "As a result of 142 telephone calls to airports and airlines, in which he said bombs had been planted in passenger planes or they would come under attack, aircraft were forced to make emergency landings and fighter planes were scrambled."

It was also claimed by the court that Kadar had gotten involved with the so-called restricted access "dark web" to make threats for money. He reportedly earned $240,000 equivalent worth of the digital currency Bitcoin. Kadar has reportedly refused to reveal the password to his Bitcoin wallet and its value is believed to have increased to more than $1 million.

The tale borders on the bizarre and right from the beginning there were many inconsistencies in both the Department of Justice case and in terms of Kadar's biography and vital statistics. After his arrest and conviction, many of his public, private and social networking records were either deleted or changed, suggesting that a high-level cover-up was underway.

Most significant, the criminal complaint against Kadar included details of the phone calls that were not at all consistent with the case that he had acted alone. The threats were made using what is referred to as spoofing telephone services, used by marketers to hide the caller's true number and identify, but the three cell phone numbers identified by the Department of Justice to make the spoofed calls were all U.S.-based and one of them was linked to a Jewish Chabad religious leader and one to the Church of Scientology's counter-intelligence chief in California. In addition, some of the calls were made when Kadar was in transit between Illinois and Israel, suggesting that he had not initiated the calls.

DOJ's criminal complaint also included information that the threat caller was a woman who had "a distinct speech impediment." Michael Kadar's mother has a distinct speech impediment. Oddly enough she has not been identified in any public documents and the Israelis claimed that Michael was disguising his voice, but she is believed to be Dr. Tamar Kadar, who resided in Ashkelon at the same address as Michael. Dr. Kadar is a chemical weapons researcher at the Mossad-linked Israel Institute for Biological Research ("IIBR").

Michael appears to have U.S. birthright citizenship because he was born in Bethesda in 1990 while his mother was a visiting researcher at the U.S. Army Military Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID). While Dr. Kadar was at USAMRIID, anthrax went missing from the Army's lab and may have been subsequently used in the 2001 anthrax letter attacks inside the U.S., which resulted in the deaths of five people. The FBI subsequently accused two USAMRIID researchers of the theft, but one was exonerated and the other committed suicide, closing the investigation.

So, there are some interesting issues raised by the Michael Kadar case. First of all, he appears to have been the fall guy for what may have been a Mossad directed false-flag operation actually run by his mother, who is herself an expert on biological weapons and works at an Israeli intelligence lab. Second, the objective of the operation may have been to create an impression that anti-Semitism is dramatically increasing, which ipso facto generates a positive perception of Israel and encourages foreign Jews to emigrate to the Jewish state. And third, there appears to have been a cover-up orchestrated by the Israeli and U.S. governments, evident in the disappearance of both official and non-official records, while Michael has been quietly released from prison and is enjoying his payoff of one million dollars in bitcoins. As always, whenever something involves promoting the interests of the state of Israel, the deeper one digs the more sordid the tale becomes.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


niteranger , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 5:17 am GMT

Good piece of work Dr. Giraldi. A few things about this case of the Kadars. Basically Israel refused to cooperate with the FBI at the beginning and resisted giving up the kid. Furthermore, the FBI was told to "back off" by higher ups in the agency and let Israel handle it. So the results are what you would expect with a false flag.

The anthrax case still has legs. Bruce Irvins was the microbiologist at Detrick you are referring to. He was never charged and they never proved he was involved and the FBI could not place him in any of the spots they wanted. He had some issues and the FBI gang banged him looking for a patsy. Dr. Hatfill was the "original" Person of Interest whom the Jewish controlled media followed around and they ruined his life. He sued the FBI and won a lot of money.

The FBI appeared to intentionally mess up the anthrax samples. Reviews by the National Academy of Science rocked the idiots at the FBI and they concluded Irvins was not involved. The real kicker to all of this is that the FBI leader of the investigation was Robert Mueller! The same Mueller who spent almost 3 years chasing Russian spies well knowing that it was lie.

And finally who sealed the files so no one could ever come up with the real perpetrators ..Obama!

Antares , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 8:45 am GMT
Antisemitism is pro-Israel, the Nazis included (shipping jews to Palestine).

For some reason I know exactly what a neonazi looks like, how he behaves, how he talks, how he thinks and even how he feels. But I never met one. Where does this 'knowledge' come from?

I happen to remember some television that I have seen as a child. Most people don't and are living in a fantasy world with fantasy enemies and fantasy friends and take it for reality.

Been_there_done_that , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 9:49 am GMT

"Further muddying the waters, there have been a number of instances in which Jews have themselves been responsible for what have been claimed to be anti-Semitic incidents."

There have been so many such incidents over the years that when a synagogue or cemetery gets spray-painted with swastikas, the default presumption for any subsequent investigation is automatically "inside-job".

The stereotypical perpetrator would tend to be a deranged student residing at the campus Hillel House, majoring in film studies or some other flakey college program.

Years ago there was a case of a San Francisco synagogue on fire. After the arsonist, a Jew, was caught and confessed, the tenor of the response was that one had to feel sorry for him because he needed help.

In light of such incidents there has even been a visual meme out there: Hey Rabbi Watcha Doin'?! (See Google Images)

Getting a patsy to do the dirty work is significantly more effective in provoking outrage and sympathy. Though last year's attack on a synagogue in Halle, Germany, during Yom Kippur services in early October was highly suspicious, media reports managed to suppress those aspects and instead generated a victimhood-card bonanza that lasted for weeks.

The German population was easily bamboozled. Prominent Jewish representatives publicly demanded more stringent laws against "anti-semitism", as recently re-defined, and parliamentarians duly obliged.

News that had not been much reported about, but was circulating at the outset in alternative media:

• Mentally deranged perpetrator, who had shared his views on an Internet chat group, expressed his desire to attack Muslims and Antifa.

• Anonymous "handler / minder" in California offered to pay him half a bitcoin to redirect his attack toward the synagogue instead.

• Synagogue had just recently been equipped with elaborate security system installed by Israeli company to withstand shooting and bombing attacks.

• Local police, which normally would provide security outside, during holiday services, were conspicuously absent during that time, and slow to respond (likely stand-down orders from above).

• Perpetrator filmed his rampage, which he broadcast in real-time as a live stream video online (wanting to emulate an earlier attack in New Zealand), enabling his handlers to monitor the shooting spree while in progress.

• After his mission failed, frustrated perpetrator "spilled the beans" in real-time and cussed out the Californian bitcoin payer, who had apparently set him up to be framed, as probably being a Jew.

Of course, by design, the securely locked synagogue door easily withstood the shooting attack with multiple exterior bullet holes into its wooden exterior. Everybody in the world probably saw that part.

Robert Pinkerton , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 11:05 am GMT
Pressure of an external enemy reinforces group cohesion.

In Roman antiquity the Main Enemy was Carthage. Once it was destroyed, fissures in Roman social cohesion became canyons.

niente , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 12:57 pm GMT
I was born in Argentina, 1950. There was a populist nationalist government then, strongly disliked by the US. It included a whole spectrum, right to left. It assisted together with the Vatican the rescuing of Nazi criminals that settled in the country. There was an antisemitic movement headed by a provocateur, Juan Guillermo Kelly for name. Jews emigrated to Israel. In the 80s he made public he was a Mossad agent
Desert Fox , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 1:13 pm GMT
... get the book By Way of Deception by former Mossad officer Victor Ostrosky, it can be had on amazon.
Jake , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 1:35 pm GMT
@vot tak How can Jews be a 'colonial occupation force' in any nation that is English-speaking and has not totally rejected the political and cultural heritage of WASP Empire?

Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judaizing heresy. When the Anglo-Saxon Puritans won their revolution, they cemented Modern English culture as one twined with Jewish ideas and ideals. Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell cemented that doubly by allying with Jewish bankers on the Continent. From the mid-1600s, Jews have been the defining bankers of English Empire, of WASP Empire. And bankers are always the opposite of outsiders. Bankers own and eventually come to control fully.

Anglo-Zionist Empire has existed since at least Oliver Cromwell.

Greg Bacon , says: Website Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 1:59 pm GMT
As in the case of the Mossad asset Jeff Epstein, who was running a child-rape assembly line on his 'Orgy Island' and on his 'Lolita Express,' to ensnare weakling politicians, video-taping them in the process of raping young girls–and boys–then use that to blackmail them into becoming an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, the one lead that was never pursued was, "How many other Epstein's are out there, doing their slimy business for Israel?"

The same could be asked of this 'Mikey' Kadar terrorist, who I'm sure has plenty of accomplices world-wide, still phoning in threats or maybe spray-painting Jew cemeteries with the dreaded Nazi Swastika.

This terrorist does about one year in prison, then is set free and off to the USA he runs? If his name had been Mohammed or he was a skin-headed nationalist, he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, but since he's from that class of those Chosen by G-d, he gets a pass.

geokat62 , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT
@niente

There was an antisemitic movement headed by a provocateur, Juan Guillermo Kelly

Very interesting information. I did a quick search and the only info I found was this wiki entry in Spanish.

I used google translate to convert to English.

Do you have any sources that confirm his alleged affiliation with Mossad?

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From a young age he was a member of the Nationalist Liberation Alliance. Until then, it was led by Juan Queraltó and had a clear anti-Semitic profile that Kelly fought against. The group went on to become a shock force of Peronism.

During the bombing of Plaza de Mayo, when a group of military personnel opposed to the government of Juan Domingo Perón attempted to assassinate him and carry out a coup d'état, several squadrons of aircraft belonging to Naval Aviation, bombarded and machine-gunned them with anti-aircraft ammunition, Plaza de Mayo and the Casa Rosada, as well as the CGT building, Kelly, aided by the Nationalist Liberation Alliance, dueled with the Marines responsible for the attack. [2]

After the self-proclaimed liberating revolution dictatorship was established, after a bombardment of the headquarters of his organization, located in San Martín and Corrientes Avenue in Buenos Aires. On September 21, the coup armed forces received from Córdoba the order to eliminate that focus of resistance in the heart of the city of Buenos Aires and advanced on it with cannons and two Sherman tanks, sending an emissary to surrender. The cannons and tanks fired and some fifty men, led by Guillermo Patricio Kelly, surrendered. Those who remained inside died under the rubble of the three-story building, destroyed with gunshots. The number of deaths that some raise to more than 400 is unknown. [3] After that, he was arrested by the dictatorship and transferred to the Río Gallegos prison, where one night in 1957 he starred in a film escape along with John William Cooke, Jorge Antonio and Héctor Cámpora and other political prisoners managed to escape, after which he applied for political asylum in Chile, but this was denied. When he was about to be sent to Argentina, he escaped again, this time dressed as a woman, [required appointment] to Venezuela where Perón was. When he left Chile for Caracas, he used a new identity: he was "Doctor Vargas, psychoanalyst".

When on January 26, 1958, the newspaper El Nacional titled "Perón led the repression against the Venezuelan people," he identified him, along with Kelly, as "National Security torture consultants" and published Perón's fraternal letters to the head of that body.

When the revolution broke out in Venezuela, Perón was another of the insurgents' objectives, along with his collaborators, among whom was Kelly, and they had to take refuge in the Embassy of the Dominican Republic. Outside, more than a thousand people were shaking the entrance gate. They had already been locked up for two days, and people were still outside. All the Argentines looked askance at Kelly. "They are going to kill us all because of this one," they growled. There were several who wanted to kick him out and someone raised the motion: to vote if he should withdraw. It was not necessary: ​​Kelly decided to face up. He only asked for two conditions: that he be given a pair of dark glasses and a hat. He also asked for silver. When he walked out of the embassy and mixed with the crowd, no one could recognize him. In the midst of the seizure, Kelly made contact with two CIA agents: -- The Communists are going to enter the embassy and they are going to kill Perón. And if they kill him, the entire continent is communicated – he warned them. Finally, the United States prepared to rescue him, interceding with the revolutionary government to clear the area and facilitate his departure to the Dominican Republic. [4]

Kelly was stoned from the Caracas airport, obtained refuge in Haiti and, after a turbulent stay in which he was imprisoned, [5] crossed the border to the Dominican Republic, where he remained for a few days. He returned to Argentina in 1958 with the passport that he stole from Roberto Galán and after six months he was arrested and transferred again to the Ushuaia prison. [6]

Throughout his life he was imprisoned for almost eight years. In 1966 he occupied the headquarters of the PJ National Coordinating Board for a few hours, from where he launched a violent proclamation against union leader Augusto Vandor. [appointment required]

In 1981, in the midst of a military dictatorship, he denounced the theft of $ 60 million from Argentina, 10% of that debt belonging to General Suárez Mason, considering him a "murderer of the people." According to Kelly, Mason is involved in the YPF emptying in the 1980s. He also said that the military man worked as a mercenary training mercenary troops to fight in the Caribbean, which received money from the Nord high command, who was accused of murdering the brother and two nephews of former President Arturo Frondizi. Also involved in this robbery was former judge Pedro Narvaez who fled to Rio de Janeiro and then to Spain. [7] [8]

In 1983, he gained notoriety after formulating a series of complaints related to the P-2 Lodge, the YPF dismissal and the murder of Fernando Branca, in addition to filing a criminal complaint against Emilio Massera. Shortly thereafter, in August of that year, Kelly was kidnapped and severely beaten by a gang led by Aníbal Gordon, who claimed to have acted on the orders of the last military dictator Reynaldo Bignone and the Army Corps I.

In 1991, during the presidency of Carlos Menem, he was the host of an ATC program called Sin Concesiones, in which he maintained that it would reveal "where the children of the ´Noble Ladies´ come from", alluding to the children adopted by the director from the Clarín newspaper, Ernestina Herrera de Noble. After a meeting between Herrera de Noble, Héctor Magnetto and Carlos Menem held at the Quinta de Olivos on Thursday, May 2, 1991, Clarín and the government agreed on Kelly's air release at ATC in exchange for the air output of the program of the journalist Liliana López Foresi, Magazine 13, Journalism with an opinion, in which Menem was severely criticized. [9] [10] [11] [12]

On the subject of Herrera de Noble's children, Kelly wrote a book published by Arkel Publishing in 1993 titled Noble: Imperio Corrupto. Only 200 copies were published, although the author gave several of them to public libraries in the United States. [13]

He died on July 1, 2005 at 8:30 am, a victim of terminal cancer at the German Hospital in the City of Buenos Aires. [14] [15]

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Kelly

Richard B , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm GMT
@Colin Wright

Informative piece.

Very much so. Because it helps direct our attention to something very important.

Though they're good at infiltration, subversion, betrayal, destruction and death, they're no good at social-managment.

Who's "they"?

I refer to them as Jewish Supremacy Inc. (JSI).

It's a distinction worth making because it separates them from Jews who don't hate Whites and aren't obsessed with being Jewish.

They're out there, however small their numbers might be.

After all, Gilad Atzmon's not the only one.

It's also worth pointing out that JSI gets lots of help from three other groups who aren't Jewish at all. In fact they're White.

1. the cynical, self-centered whores of opportunity who will do anything to protect their own materialistic, narcissistic trough.

2. the incurably gullible, pathologically naive Whites from Left-wingy Multi-Culties to Right-wing Christian Zionists.

3. the perfectly indifferent who walk around with that stroked out look on their face from watching too much ESPN and Pornhub.

The rest of us are freedom-lovers, or TUR readers/commenters or potential TUR readers/commenters.

Meaning they'd be open to what the actual readers/commenters have to say and won't fly off the handle with a knee-jerk reaction before springing into fight or flight mode.

In short, this boils down to a battle of

Dogma versus Pragma

.

What's the difference?

Pragma is open to exposing its ideas to a process of continuous feedback and correction for the purpose of improving the quality of its social-management

And Dogma isn't.

Trinity , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 2:59 pm GMT
Excuse me, but this is comical. There is no other group in America and the entire West who are more protected and more privileged than Jews. While White Gentiles are routinely attacked, beaten to a pulp, raped, and brutally murdered by Blacks, Hispanics, Pakis, Arabs, in Europe and America, just for having the temerity to walk outside in countries built by their White ancestors. How does a painted swastika equate with rape-torture murders of the Christian-Newsom Knoxville Horror? And if you think the Christian-Newsom murders are a rare crime in America, you are living under a rock. And lest we forget the Christian-Newsom Murders nor the Wichita Massacre murders were labeled "hate crimes." Despite thousands upon thousands of Black on White and other nonwhite on White attacks, rapes, murders in this country, you can bet the house that no one in Washington has voiced concerns over the violence being perpetrated on White Gentiles daily in America. America is indeed a racist country and Whites experience that racism every single day.

Remember a couple years ago when someone was calling bomb threats to Jewish Community Centers? Remember that they found out it was some Jewish guy in a Tel Aviv basement calling in the bomb threats. Of course at first the (((media))) went through their spiel about how anti-Semitism was on the rise in America, and then once we all found out that the perpetrator was a Jewish guy in Israel, ( I believe a dual citizen at that) the (((media))) dropped this case quicker than you could claim some NY/NJ rabbis were selling body organs.

Most of these hate crime HOAXES are simply Jews and/or Blacks drawing swastikas, hanging a nooses in a locker, or some other ridiculous and downright childish act that in no way even if done by a White racist who hates Jews and Blacks, equates to a Mississippi girl named Jessica Chambers being burned alive, a 12 year old white male being burned alive with a blow torch by an adult black female in Texas, etc., etc. The fact of the matter is that "hate crimes" against nonwhites and Jews are downright rare in America, ( not talking about HOAXES here) and there is no way that a crayon drawing of a swastika or hanging a noose in someone's locker can be linked as the same as someone dying a horrific and brutal death like the White victims I listed. IF we lived in a TRULY just and decent country, EVERYONE out there, regardless of color, creed or religion would recognize that we need to stop all the hate and violence directed at White Gentiles before moving on to worrying about crayon drawings.

Trinity , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT
Remember when Noel Ignatiev the Jewish professor stated we need to "abolish Whiteness?" Now imagine a White professor stating that we need to "abolish Jewishness in America?" Can you imagine what would have happened to that guy? Is it possible for a Jew in America/Canada or Europe to be fired from his or here job for making racist or inflammatory remarks about Whites?
TGD , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT
The story of Michael Kadar is reminiscent of the tale of another criminal young male with dual Israeli US citizenship, Samuel Sheinbein.

Sheinbein and a colleague murdered, dismembered and burnt a fellow high school classmate, the hispanic Fredo Enrique Tello, Jr., in September, 1997. Sheinbein fled to Israel and in a long drawn out court battle, Sheinbein's requested extradition to the State of Maryland to stand trial was refused by Israel's supreme court.

You can read the whole sordid story in Wikipedia including how Sheinbaum was killed in a shootout with the guards who were escorting him from one prison to another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Sheinbein

Wally , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT
@Been_there_done_that A must see:
Fake Hate Crimes: a database of hate crime hoaxes in the USA :
http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

plus:
-Mural of Tina Turner is defaced with a red swastika outside a North Carolina record store .. Who benefits? : https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7830579/Tina-Turner-mural-defaced-North-Carolina-record-store.html
– Jewish suspects arrested over swastika graffiti on synagogues : http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-suspects-arrested-over-swastika-graffiti-on-synagogues/
– Poorly Drawn Swastikas Spray-Painted On Monument In Milwaukee : https://www.prisonplanet.com/fake-hate-trump-rules-poorly-drawn-swastikas-spray-painted-on-monument-in-milwaukee.html
Jew arrested for dozens of fake 'hate crimes': http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/23/israeli-jew-19-arrested-antisemitic-hate-crime-hoax-spree/
– Man Caught Spray Painting Swastika On College Campus Is Black : http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/16/man-caught-spray-painting-swastika-on-college-campus-is-black-report-says/
– Staged Jew bomb hoaxes: http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-files-massive-indictment-against-jcc-bomb-hoaxer-for-thousands-of-counts-of-threats-extortion-fraud/
– another staged 'hate crime' / 'Neo-Nazi' Graffiti Found In Brooklyn Synagogue – Suspect is Black leftist https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12101
– Fake Hate? 'Trump Rules' & Poorly Drawn Swastikas Spray-Painted On Monument In Milwaukee
https://www.prisonplanet.com/fake-hate-trump-rules-poorly-drawn-swastikas-spray-painted-on-monument-in-milwaukee.html
– Jewish suspects arrested over swastika graffiti on synagogues : http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-suspects-arrested-over-swastika-graffiti-on-synagogues/

Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT
@Jake Here we go with the WASP thing again. A minority of descendants of the Angles were Puritans, and even fewer Saxons were Puritans. There were also Norse Puritans, Norman Puritans and Briton Puritans. All Puritans were minorities. Many "Protestant" Churches, including the Anglican Church, considered Puritans dissenters, verging on heretics, and not really Protestants beyond protesting the Church of Rome. Knox's Presbyterians had a lot in common with Puritans as did Dutch Protestants, and there were a lot of Dutch who moved to East Anglia. Some became Puritans. It's silly to refer to it at it being "Anglo-Saxon Puritans" as not all were Angles or Saxons. They were Puritans who happened to be Angles, Saxons and others. WASP is even sillier. Are there Brown, Yellow, or Red Anglo-Saxons?

Cromwell seized power because the Stuarts were unpopular for many reasons, and as with every revolution, a minority with zealotry seizes power from an apathetic majority. Sure he turned to the Jewish Amsterdam bankers, who were already funding the Dutch Empire, including New Amsterdam, but who else would have helped? The Puritans were vehemently anti Catholic and would have never turned there. They were also vehemently anti-Muslim, so the Ottomans were out. The Jews were it by elimination.

As for the culture. The culture of the elite is seldom the culture of the general population.

The "Anglo-Saxons" were more than happy to restore the Stuarts after Cromwell, as long as they were Protestants. The installation of King Billy, replacing James, was due to James having converted to Catholicism and the fear of his imposing it on the country.

It was under William and Mary that the newly, created by Parliament, Bank of England was taken over by Jewish bankers. The same minority Puritan Parliament that restored the Stuarts and sponsored the overthrow of James.

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I've heard that, as part of new amendments to the Russian Constitution, President Putin proposes to include the Russian people's "faith in God," and a definition of marriage as a "union of a man and a woman." I'm a bit skeptical about the news, but if true, I think it's a great idea. If voted in the upcoming referendum, it would consecrate the civilizational schism that is likely to define the history of our civilization in the coming century: in the West, the post-modernist project of liberating man from his human nature, to produce an uprooted, transgendered, upgraded man, Homo Deus . In the East, the choice of honoring and protecting our spiritual and anthropological roots, to produce the genuine thing: Mars and Venus, virile men and feminine women grateful to their Creator for each other, reveling in their fertile complementarity.

Needless to say, the proposal has the support of Moscow Orthodox Patriarch Kirill, but also of Muslim leader Talgat Tadzhuddin. The idea is to transcend particular creeds and churches. More surprisingly, Communist Party boss Gennady Zyuganov raises no objection.

As a country that was still officially Marxist-Leninist thirty years ago, Russia has come a long way. America too, for that matter. Interestingly, God is not mentioned in the American Constitution, although he is ubiquitous on dollar bills (think of Jesus being handed a dollar bill instead of a Roman denarius in Matthew 22!).

Other proposed amendments, such as banning foreign citizenships and bank accounts for state officials, have obvious practical advantages, and are so sensible that they raise little discussion. By contrast, adding God into the constitution is highly and purely symbolic. Some will argue that it will have no real consequence. It all depends on the power we attribute to symbols. I would think that such a collective proclamation by the Russian people would have a strong impact, both on Russian self-consciousness, and as a message to the West. It could also lead to real changes, in academia, for example: I can't wait for the day when Intelligent Design research will be funded in Russian universities, rather than censored as it is in the U.S. (watch Ben Stein's documentary Expelled: No Intelligent Allowed ).

What are the arguments for enshrining God in the Constitution? That is one of the most important questions in political science that you can think of. This will come as a surprise to many, but the man who has thought the deepest on this question is perhaps Maximilien Robespierre (1758-1794). On May 7, 1794, he had the Convention decreed, with a view to inscribing it in the French Constitution, that, "the French people recognize the existence of the Supreme Being and the immortality of the soul." On June 8, he presided over a national holiday dedicated to the Divine Creator. It was a great success, both in Paris and in the provinces. Robespierre was then immensely popular, but his career would end fifty days later when he was arrested, silenced by a gunshot through his jaw, and executed the next day without trial, together with his brother Augustin and twenty-one of his friends, followed the next two days by eighty-three of his supporters, their bodies and heads thrown into a mass grave, with lime spread on them so as to leave no trace. In the aftermath of their coup, Robespierre's assassins crushed demonstrations of mourning for the Incorruptible, and launched a press campaign against him that basically continues to this day.

There is a great deal of misunderstanding about Robespierre and his "religious policy." For that reason, I thought that the Russian constitutional debate would be a good opportunity -- or a pretext -- for some reappraisal of a great man unfairly vilified, and thereby a case study in the transformation of a vanquished hero into a monster by state propaganda. But the main purpose of this article is to present Robespierre's ideas on the relationship between religion and politics, which I find stimulating and pertinent for our time -- and, I expect, unfamiliar to most.

Robespierre was the heir and probably the most articulate advocate of a long tradition of thinkers who equally disliked religious dogmatism and atheism, not only as too narrow for their own minds, but as harmful to society. In his view, both were symmetrical forms of fanaticism. He would not be the last to think along this line. Thomas Jefferson once wrote to John Adams : "Indeed I think that every Christian sect gives a great handle to Atheism by their general dogma that, without a revelation, there would not be sufficient proof of the being of a god." There is much truth in this statement. But the principle of authoritative revelation is not the main factor involved in the development of Western atheism, I think. The content of the revelation is critical. I believe that modern atheism is, to a great extent, a reaction to the disgusting character presented as "God" in the Old Testament. Yahweh's obscenity has ultimately ruined God's reputation. Voltaire, that old anti-Semite , ridiculed Christianity by quoting almost exclusively the Old Testament. Still today, Darwinian high priest Richard Dawkins can only make his atheism sound plausible by first professing, correctly:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." [1] Richard Dawkins, in The God Delusion, Houghton Mifflin, 2006, p. 51.

In his speech on "the relations of religious and moral ideas with republican principles," read at the Convention six weeks before his death, Robespierre said:

"I know of nothing so close to atheism as the religion that [the priests] have made: by disfiguring the Supreme Being, they have destroyed him as much as it was in them; [ ] the priests created a god in their image; they made him jealous, temperamental, greedy, cruel, relentless."

(That judgment is partially inexact: the cruel God of the Old Testament may have been used by priests as a means of social control, but he had been created by the Levites long before. Robespierre had no clue about the Jewish Question.)

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Let's start with a clarification: Today's French traditionalist Catholics insist that Robespierre's "Être Suprême" has nothing to do with their God, and they pretend that it has Freemasonic overtones. They even confuse it with the deification of Reason , a cult that Robespierre execrated and combatted. So let's set the record straight: There is no evidence that Robespierre was ever a Freemason. He borrowed the expression "Supreme Being" from Rousseau, who never was a Freemason either. It had been used since the Renaissance and was of common usage. Even the very royalist, Catholic and counter-revolutionary Joseph de Maître begins his Considerations on France (1797) with the sentence: "We are all attached to the throne of the Supreme Being by a flexible chain, which retains us without enslaving us." François René de Chateaubriand, who also hated Robespierre, used repeatedly the phrase "Supreme Being" in his apology of Catholicism, Le Génie du christianisme (1799). Therefore, there is no reason to consider that, in Robespierre's speeches, "Supreme Being" meant anything else than God. His suggestion to engrave in the Constitution that the French people have "faith in the Supreme Being" is equivalent to Putin's proposal.

Putin has the support of the Patriarch whereas Robespierre was anathemized by the Pope, you may object. But here is the heart of the matter: Russian orthodoxy is, fundamentally, a national religion, and today more than ever, with the canonization of the martyred Romanovs. The main reason why Roman Catholicism was unacceptable for Robespierre was that it meant loyalty to a foreign power. Yet contrary to the common image, Robespierre did not seek to ban Catholicism, he only required that French bishops and priests swear loyalty to the French State, rather than to the Roman Pope. That was pretty much what every French monarch had tried and failed to do since Philipp the Fair. As we shall see, Robespierre actually opposed the "dechristianization" campaign of the Enragés , and denounced them as the useful idiots or willing accomplices of the counter-revolutionaries.

There are two other differences between Robespierre's and Putin's proposals. Robespierre saw the traditional family as the basic cell of a healthy society, but almost everyone did, then. Stipulating that marriage can only join a man and a woman would have been as superfluous as affirming that 1 plus 1 make 2.

The second difference is that Robespierre wanted to mention the immortality of the soul next to the existence of God. "Immortality of the soul" may have sounded to most of Robespierre's contemporaries a straightforward concept. But today, the formulation would beg too many metaphysical questions: What's a soul? Do animals have one? Is it individual or collective, or both? Where does it go? Does immortal means eternal? etc. And that other question: if every human being has an immortal soul, at what stage of its development does the fetus get one? I'm not saying it would be a bad thing, but bringing up the issue in the constitutional referendum could be very divisive.

The making of a monster

In the standard textbook history of the French Revolution, Robespierre is portrayed as a fanatic and megalomaniac dictator, and he is blamed for the Great Terror that sent approximately 17,000 people to the guillotine in the six weeks preceding his demise. Ever since Jules Michelet, who fashioned our roman national , the figure of Robespierre has served to embody all the evils of the French Revolution, exactly like Philippe Pétain for World War II. While Danton has boulevards in his name and is celebrated by Hollywood, Robespierre is the usual bad guy.

However, there have always been a minority of historians (informed by the Société des Études Robespierristes founded by Robert Mathiez in 1907) to challenge the black legend, and there are still politicians occasionally honoring him ( Jean-Luc Mélenchon ). The most recent positive reappraisal of Robespierre is appropriately subtitled: La Fabrication d'un Monstre . [2] Jean-Clément Martin, Robespierre, la fabrication d'un monstre, Perrin, 2016. Other recent French historians who have drawn a rather positive image of Robespierre include Jean-Philippe Domecq, Robespierre, dernier temps , Folio/Histoire, 2011 and Cécile Obligi, Robespierre. La probité révoltante, Belin, 2012. In English language, that revisionist trend is represented by David P. Jordan's The Revolutionary Career of Maximilien Robespierre (Free Press, 2013). Chapter 1 begins like this:

"As Robespierre lay on a table in the antechamber of the Committee of Public Safety, drifting in and out of consciousness, his ball-shattered jaw bound up with a bandage, his triumphant enemies, in another room of the Tuileries palace, were creating the monster who would soon pass into historical legend. This Robespierre, created by using materials scavenged from old calumny, damaging anecdote, and sometimes sheer malicious invention, was one of the founding acts of a new revolutionary government. The Thermidorians -- thus have Robespierre's conquerors and successors been dubbed -- sought not only to justify their coup d'état of July 1794 (the month of Thermidor in the revolutionary calendar) but to evade the opprobrium they shared with Robespierre and his comrades for deeds done during the agonizing crisis the previous year, during the Terror. The vengeful malice of the Thermidorians was partly successful: their caricature of Robespierre has proved durable."

Robespierre was primarily a man of words, in a time when eloquence was a political act, when speeches could change the opinion of deputies, and sometimes even win a whole assembly. He was a great writer and a great orator. Not even his ennemies doubted the sincerity of his passionate defense of the poor and downtrodden: "That man will go far -- he believes everything he says," Mirabeau once remarked. His speeches, delivered at the Jacobin Club or at the Convention, were printed and widely distributed, and had a huge echo all over France.

In the spring of 1793, he reluctantly joined the Comité de salut public (Committee of Public Safety), a revolutionary tribunal responsible for sending conspirators against the new Republic to their death, at a time when the Republic was at war against Austria, Prussia, Spain and England. Robespierre's responsibility in the Great Terror that marked the last two months of the Committee is a debated subject, but it is admitted that he was absent from Committee meetings, probably sick, during its last six weeks of work.

In his final speech to the Convention, just before being arrested, Robespierre denounced a plot to lose him by spilling blood on his behalf. He claimed that his enemies, in order to rally enough deputies against him, had circulated fake lists of suspects allegedly written by himself, and spread the rumor that he was preparing a major purge, when in fact he wanted to end the Terror. Napoleon Bonaparte later confirmed this accusation, and believed that "Robespierre was the real scapegoat for the Revolution." Alphonse de Lamartine, who wrote a Histoire des Girondins in eight volumes, also came to the realization that Robespierre's enemies "covered him, for forty days, with the blood they shed to disgrace him." [3] Jean-Philippe Domecq, Robespierre, dernier temps , Folio/Histoire, 2011, p. 27-30 Simultaneously, they created the golden legend of Danton, in reality a disgusting money-grubber.

Danton (1759-1794)

I will not delve deeper into Robespierre's biography; I just wanted to point out that his standard portrayal is the product of an elaborate and massive propaganda operation by those who overthrew him. I will now focus of his religious views, which are generally underrated, although, from his own testimony, they determined his political views. [4] My presentation owes a lot to Henri Guillemin, Robespierre, Politique et mystique, Seuil, 1987.

Robespierre did not view religion as a purely private matter. He believed that the idea of God is an indispensable foundation for public morality, and should be taught in schools and celebrated publicly. "The idea of the Supreme Being and of the immortality of the soul is a constant reminder of justice; therefore, it is social and republican."

Robespierre's ideas were elaborated from those of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, whom he held as the greatest "tutor of the human race." Rousseau's "natural religion" was itself not a new idea. Let me sketch a brief history of that tradition, before coming back to Robespierre.

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If we define "natural religion" as the claim that belief in God and in the afterlife is sufficiently founded on reason and experience, then it is as old as Plato, and probably much older. If we define it additionally as a rebellion against the authority of Christian scriptures and dogmas, then it seems to have been around as long as Christianity. Proofs are hard to find for the Middle Ages, when monks had a quasi monopoly on writing. But from the end of the twelfth century, there is enough evidence of forms of religious beliefs independent and sometimes incompatible with Christian doctrine. I have analyzed some of this evidence in my book La Mort féerique: Anthropologie du merveilleux (XIIe-XVe siècles) , a rewriting of my doctoral thesis. We know for example that the court of the famous Frederick II Hohenstaufen (1194-1250) was replete with scholars and noblemen whose religious views were inspired by classical philosophy, and who resented Catholic intolerance. Pope Gregory IX, founder of the Inquisition, made the following accusation against Frederick: "Openly, this king of pestilence notably affirmed -- to use his own words -- that the whole world was duped by three impostors: Jesus Christ, Moses and Muhammad." [5] Quoted in Ernst Kantorowicz, L'empereur Frédéric II , Gallimard, 1987 (1 st German ed. 1927), pp. 451-452. The accusation is plausible. Having been raised in multicultural Sicily in the company of Jewish, Muslim and Christian scholars, he had reflected on the problems caused by the very notion of revelation.

Frederick was a polymath scientist, a polyglot, an outstanding diplomat (he conquered Jerusalem without shedding a drop of blood), and an enlightened lawmaker. He was "the Wonder of the World" ( Stupor Mundi ), the most prestigious and powerful prince of his age. Yet the pope prevailed over him, and pursued his descendants with insatiable hatred, until his lineage was eradicated, and his name covered with calumny. Nevertheless, his memory would be cherished by some of the best minds throughout the thirteenth centuries. Dante's treaty De Monarchia (1313) is believed to be a defense of Frederick's project (on Dante and the Fedeli d'Amore, you may want to read the relevant section of my article "The Crucifixion of the Goddess" ).

Frederick's amazing Castel del Monte, in Southern Italy

With the growing power of the Inquisition, overt advocacy of natural religion became impossible. That is when we start hearing of secret circles of intellectuals. The rediscovery of the ancient Greeks and Romans also provided a relatively safe cover for expressing unchristian views on God and the afterlife, and I believe that apocryphal forgeries are more numerous than generally acknowledged. The great Petrarch (1304-1374) may have forged rather than discovered the letters of Cicero that became the blueprint for his own humanism. [6] Jerry Brotton, The Renaissance Bazaar: From the Silk Road to Michelangelo, Oxford UP, 2010, pp. 66-67.

In the next century, the printing press and the Reformation provided an unprecedented window of tolerance, especially in the Netherlands. Erasmus of Rotterdam (1469–1536) approached natural religion as the common denominator of all faiths, and the means of overcoming religious wars. His friend Thomas More imagined in his Utopia , or the best form of government (1516), an ideal world where people hold a variety of opinions on religious questions, but "all agree in this: that they think there is one Supreme Being that made and governs the world." The public cult is for this Supreme Being alone, while "every sect performs those rites that are peculiar to it in their private houses."

Then came John Locke, with his Letter Concerning Toleration, first published in Latin in 1689. Locke went further than Erasmus in declaring immoral any doctrine professing that good people are damned if they do not believe in this or that dogma. Churches who require loyalty to a foreign power should also be banished, for by tolerating them, the magistrate "would give way to the settling of a foreign jurisdiction in his own country and suffer his own people to be listed, as it were, for soldiers against his own Government." That concerns Roman Catholicism, of course, but also Islam:

"It is ridiculous for any one to profess himself to be a Mahometan only in his religion, but in everything else a faithful subject to a Christian magistrate, whilst at the same time he acknowledges himself bound to yield blind obedience to the Mufti of Constantinople, who himself is entirely obedient to the Ottoman Emperor and frames the feigned oracles of that religion according to his pleasure."

Locke deemed atheism as immoral and socially corrosive as papism: "those are not at all to be tolerated who deny the being of a God. Promises, covenants, and oaths, which are the bonds of human society, can have no hold upon an atheist." For Anthony Collins (1676-1729), a friend of Locke,

"Ignorance is the foundation of Atheism , and Free-Thinking the Cure of it. And thus tho it should be allow'd, that some Men by Free-Thinking may become Atheists yet they will ever be fewer in number if Free-Thinking were permitted, than if it were restrain'd." ( A Discourse of Freethinking , 1713)

In the eighteenth century, it was still risky to profess openly such ideas. Locke had to print his book anonymously in Amsterdam. David Hume published his Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion anonymously and posthumously in 1779. Secret societies were still necessary for intellectuals to discuss safely on these matters. Irish philosopher John Toland (1670-1722) wrote in his Pantheisticon :

"The Philosophers therefore, and other well-wishers to mankind in most nations, were constrain'd by this holy tyranny to make use of a twofold doctrine; the one Popular, accommodated to the Prejudices of the vulgar, and to the receiv'd Customs or Religions: the other Philosophical, conformable to the nature of things, and consequently to Truth; which, with doors fast shut and under all other precautions, they communicated only to friends of known probity, prudence, and capacity. These they generally call'd the Exoteric and Esoteric , or the External and Internal Doctrines. " [7] Quoted in Jan Assmann, Religio Duplex: How the Enlightenment Reinvented Egyptian Religion, Polity Press, 2014, p. 59.

Toland's Pantheisticon describes the rules and rites of a society of enlightened thinkers who meet secretly to discuss philosophy and search for metaphysical truths. Such clubs provided the first basis of Freemasonry. [8] Albert Lantoine, Un précurseur de la franc-maçonnerie. John Toland (1670–1722) , suivi de la traduction française du Pantheisticon de John Toland, Éditions E. Nourry, 1927. Because they also attracted Marrano crypto-Jews, and because of the strong Judeophilia among British aristocrats at that time, Jewish lore and kabbalistic mumbo-jumbo were transplanted into the rituals of the Grand Lodge of England from 1723. But that is another story.

Rousseau

Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778) gave the notion of "natural religion" a wide audience by his literary genius. His religious conception is exposed in the " Profession of Faith of the Savoyard Vicar", a section of Book IV of the Émile , which caused the book to be banned in Paris and Geneva, and publicly burned in 1762. Rousseau gives there an exposé of "theism or natural religion, which Christians pretend to confound with atheism or irreligion, its exact opposite." Rousseau declares having no need for religious books, since Nature is a more useful book for discovering God;

"if I use my reason, if I cultivate it, if I employ rightly the innate faculties which God bestows upon me, I shall learn by myself to know and love him, to love his works, to will what he wills, and to fulfill all my duties upon earth, that I may please him. What more can all human learning teach me?"

Catholic dogmas are a useless and even poisonous jumble, Rousseau writes in his Letters Written from the Mountain (1764):

"For how can the mystery of the Trinity, for example, contribute to the good constitution of the State? In what way will its members be better Citizens when they have rejected the merit of good works? And what does the dogma of original sin have to do with the good of civil society? Although true Christianity is an institution of peace, who does not see that dogmatic or theological Christianity, by the multitude and obscurity of its dogmas and above all by the obligation to accept them, is a permanent battlefield between men."

Rousseau devotes the last chapter of The Social Contract (1762) to "civil religion". Like Locke, he condemns as contrary to public peace churches professing intolerance, because: "It is impossible to live at peace with those we regard as damned." Therefore, "whoever dares to say 'Outside the Church is no salvation', ought to be driven from the State."

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Rousseau first proceeded to show that "the law of Christianity at bottom does more harm than good by weakening instead of strengthening the constitution of the State." Christianity, even at its best, is too focused on individual salvation. Rousseau sees God as more fully manifested in human societies than in holy hermits. Here is a sample of Rousseau's proposal:

"it matters very much to the community that each citizen should have a religion that will make him love his duty; but the dogmas of that religion concern the State and its members only so far as they have reference to morality and to the duties which he who professes them is bound to do to others. Each man may have, over and above, what opinions he pleases, without it being the Sovereign's business to take cognisance of them; for, as the Sovereign has no authority in the other world, whatever the lot of its subjects may be in the life to come, that is not its business, provided they are good citizens in this life.

There is therefore a purely civil profession of faith of which the Sovereign should fix the articles, not exactly as religious dogmas, but as social sentiments without which a man cannot be a good citizen or a faithful subject. [ ]

The dogmas of civil religion ought to be few, simple, and exactly worded, without explanation or commentary. The existence of a mighty, intelligent and beneficent Divinity, possessed of foresight and providence, the life to come, the happiness of the just, the punishment of the wicked, the sanctity of the social contract and the laws: these are its positive dogmas. Its negative dogmas I confine to one, intolerance, which is a part of the cults we have rejected."

Rousseau uses here the word "dogmas", but for him, neither the existence of God or the immortality of the soul are based on revelation; they are proven by observation and introspection. His argument for God's existence in Émile sounds surprisingly similar to the modern argument for Intelligent Design :

"Those who deny the unity of intention which manifests itself in the reports of all the parts of this great whole, however much they cover their gibberish with abstractions, coordinations, general principles, emblematic terms; whatever they do, it is impossible for me to conceive of a system of beings so constantly ordered, that I do not conceive of an intelligence which orders it. It does not depend on me to believe that passive and dead matter could have produced living and feeling beings, [ ], that what does not think could have produced thinking beings."

Robespierre

In a speech he had printed in April 1791, Robespierre thanked the "eternal Providence" who called on the French, "alone since the origin of the world, to restore on earth the empire of Justice and Liberty." In March 1792, the president of the Legislative Assembly Élie Guadet opposed the sending to the patriotic societies of an address of Robespierre, on the pretext that he had used the word "Providence" too many times:

"I admit that, seeing no sense in this idea, I would never have thought that a man who worked with so much courage, for three years, to pull the people out of the slavery of despotism, could contribute to put them back under the slavery of superstition."

Robespierre responded:

"Superstition, it is true, is one of the supports of despotism, but it is not inducing citizens in superstition to pronounce the name of the Divinity. [ ] I, myself, support these eternal principles on which human weakness leans to rise up toward virtue. It is not a vain language in my mouth, any more than in that of all the illustrious men who had no less moral, to believe in the existence of God. / Yes, invoking the Providence and expressing the idea of the Eternal Being who influences essentially the destinies of nations, and who seems to me to watch over the French revolution in a very special way, is not an idea too haphazard, but a feeling of my heart, a feeling which [ ] has always sustained me. Alone with my soul, how could I have sufficed for struggles which are beyond human strength, if I had not raised my soul to God?" [9] Auguste Valmorel, Œuvres de Robespierre, 1867 (sur fr.wikisource.org), p. 71.

Robespierre castigated the irreligion that prevailed in the aristocracy and the high clergy, with bishops like Talleyrand openly boasting of lying every Sunday. A gap had widened between the clerical hierarchy and the country priests. Among the latter, many were responsible for drafting the peasants' cahiers de doléances . The counter-revolutionary bishop Charles de Coucy, of La Rochelle, said in 1797 that the Revolution was "started by the bad priests." [10] Henri Guillemin, Robespierre, Politique et mystique, Seuil, 1987, p. 351. For Robespierre, they were the "good priests" whom the people of the countryside needed.

Robespierre was inflexible against the priests who submitted to the pope by refusing to take an oath on the Civil Constitution (voted July 12, 1790). But he also opposed, until his last breath, any plan to abolish the funds allocated to Catholic worship under the same Civil Constitution. He also opposed, but in vain, the new Republican calendar , with its ten-day week aimed at "suppressing Sunday," by the admission of its inventor Charles-Gilbert Romme.

Robespierre's worst enemies were the militant atheists, the Enragés like Pierre-Gaspard Chaumette or Jacques-René Hébert, who unleashed the movement for dechristianization in November 1793, and started closing the churches in Paris or transforming them into "Temples of Reason", with the slogan "death is an eternal sleep" posted on the gates of cemeteries. Robespierre condemned "those men who have no other merit than that of adorning themselves with an anti-religious zeal," and who "throw trouble and discord among us" (Club des Jacobins, November 21 1793). In his speech to the National Convention of December 5, 1793, he accused the dechristianizers of acting secretly for the counter-revolution. Indeed, "hostile foreign powers support the dechristianization of France as a policy pushing rural France into conflict with the Republic for religious reasons and thus recruiting armies against the Republic in Vendée and in Belgium." By exploiting the violence of militant atheist extremists, these foreign powers have two aims: "the first to recruit the Vendée, to alienate the peoples of the French nation and to use philosophy for the destruction of freedom; the second, to disturb public tranquility in the interior, and to distract all minds, when it is necessary to collect them to lay the unshakable foundations of the Revolution."

Again in his "Report against Philosophism and for the Freedom of Worship" (November 21, 1793), Robespierre again castigated the grotesque cults of Reason instituted in churches by atheist fanatics:

"By what right do they come to disturb the freedom of worship, in the name of freedom, and attack fanaticism with a new fanaticism? By what right do they degenerate the solemn tributes paid to pure truth, in eternal and ridiculous pranks? Why should they be allowed to play with the dignity of the people in this way, and to tie the bells of madness to the very scepter of philosophy?"

The Convention, he says, intends "to maintain freedom of cult, which it has proclaimed, while repressing all those who abuse it to disturb public order." He declares that those who "persecute the peaceful ministers of cult" will be punished severely.

"There are men who, [ ] on the pretext of destroying superstition, want to make a kind of religion of atheism itself. Any philosopher, any individual can adopt whatever religious opinion he likes. Anyone who wants to make it a crime is a fool; but the public figure, but the legislator would be a hundred times more foolish who would adopt such a system. The National Convention abhors it. The Convention is not a book writer, an author of metaphysical systems, it is a political and popular body, responsible for ensuring respect, not only for the rights, but for the character of the French people. It was not in vain that it proclaimed the Declaration of Human Rights [August 26, 1789] in the presence of the Supreme Being [mentioned in the preamble]!

It may be said that I am a narrow mind, a man of prejudice; what do I know, a fanatic. I have already said that I speak neither as an individual nor as a systematic philosopher, but as a representative of the people. Atheism is aristocratic; the idea of a Great Being who watches over oppressed innocence and punishes triumphant crime, is popular. [ ] This feeling is engraved in all sensitive and pure hearts; it always animates the most magnanimous defenders of freedom. [ ] I repeat: we have no other fanaticism to fear than that of immoral men, bribed by foreign courts to awaken fanaticism, and to give our revolution the veneer of immorality, which is the character of our cowardly and fierce enemies."

The Robespierrists overcame the Hebertists. After having failed in a project of insurrection against the Convention, Chaumette was arrested, tried and executed for "conspiracy against the Republic" and for "having sought to annihilate any kind of morality, erase any idea of divinity and found the French government on atheism." In May 1794, Robespierre ordered to erase the mention "Temple of Reason" (or any similar denomination) from the portico of the churches and to engrave instead: "the French people recognize the existence of the Supreme Being and the immortality of the soul."

Robespierre justified his opposition to dechristianization and his religion policy in his last great speech, "on the relations of religious and moral ideas with republican principles" (May 7, 1794), the most important text of Robespierre on that question. [11] A translation of this speech can be found in P. H. Beik (eds), The French Revolution: The Documentary History of Western Civilization. Palgrave Macmillan, 1970, but I have translated directly from the French.

"Any institution, any doctrine which consoles and lifts souls must be welcomed; reject all that tend to degrade and corrupt them. Revive, exalt all generous feelings and all the great moral ideas that others wanted to extinguish; bring together by the charm of friendship and by the bond of virtue the men whom others wanted to divide. Who then gave you the mission to announce to the people that the Divinity does not exist, O you who are passionate about this arid doctrine, and who are never passionate about the homeland? What advantage do you find in persuading man that a blind force presides over his destinies and strikes crime and virtue at random; that his soul is only a light breath that dies out at the gates of the tomb?

Will the idea of ​​his nothingness inspire him with purer and higher feelings than that of his immortality? Will it inspire him more respect for his fellow men and for himself, more devotion to the fatherland, more courage to brave tyranny, more contempt for death or for voluptuousness? You who regret a virtuous friend, you like to think that the most beautiful part of himself has escaped death! You who weep over the coffin of a son or a wife, are you comforted by him who tells you that there is nothing left of them but a vile dust? [ ] Miserable sophist! by what right do you come to snatch from innocence the scepter of reason to put it back in the hands of crime, throw a funeral veil over nature, add despair to misfortune, make vice rejoice, and virtue saddened, degrade humanity? [ ]

Let us attach morality to eternal and sacred bases; let us inspire in man this religious respect for man, this deep feeling of his duties, which is the only guarantee of social happiness; let us nourish it with all our institutions; let public education be mainly directed towards this goal."

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On June 8, the resounding success of the Fête de l'Être Suprême consecrated Robespierre's victory. In a show staged by the painter David, a gigantic statue representing Atheism was burnt, and the effigy of Wisdom revealed. Hymns to the deity were sung. But priests and references to Catholicism were absent. On this day, Robespierre declared , the Supreme Being, "sees an entire nation that is combating all the oppressors of humankind, suspend the course of its heroic labors in order to raise its thoughts and its vows towards the Great Being who gave it the mission to undertake it and the strength to execute it."

"He created men to mutually assist and love each other, and to arrive at happiness by the path of virtue. It is He who placed remorse and fear in the breast of the triumphant oppressor, and calm and pride in the heart of the innocent oppressed. It is He who forces the just man to hate the wicked, and the wicked to respect the just man. It is He who adorned the face of beauty with modesty, so as to make it even more beautiful. It is He who makes maternal entrails palpitate with tenderness and joy. It is He who bathes with delicious tears the eyes of a son pressed against his mother's breast. It is He who silences the most imperious and tender passions before the sublime love of the fatherland. It is He who covered nature with charms, riches and majesty. All that is good is His work, or is Him. Evil belongs to the depraved man who oppresses or allows his like to be oppressed. The author of nature ties together all mortals in an immense chain of love and felicity."

Generally speaking, the cult of the Supreme Being was enthusiastically received in most regions of France. The French people were tired of the civil war and eager to be reconciled under the auspices of God. Unfortunately, two days later, the Law of the "22 Prairial" (June 10, 1794) accelerated the trials of the suspects of conspiracy against the Republic, and opened the brief period of what will be called the Great Terror.

Robespierre's religious policy weighed heavily on the motivations of the Thermidorians' plot against him. They accused him of aspiring to the office of Grand Pontiff.

On the day before his death (July 28, 1794), at age 36, Robespierre declared :

"O Frenchmen! O my countrymen! Let not your enemies, with their desolating doctrines, degrade your souls, and enervate your virtues! No, Chaumette, no! Death is not 'an eternal sleep!' Citizens! Erase from the tomb that motto, engraved by sacrilegious hands, which spreads over all nature a funereal crape, takes from oppressed innocence its support, and affronts the beneficent dispensation of death! Inscribe rather thereon these words: 'Death is the commencement of immortality!'"

Laurent Guyénot, Ph.D., has recently edited some of his Unz Review articles in book form, under the title Our God is Your God Too, But He Has Chosen Us: Essays on Jewish Power . He is also the author of From Yahweh to Zion: Jealous God, Chosen People, Promised Land Clash of Civilizations , 2018, and JFK-9/11: 50 years of Deep State , Progressive Press, 2014.

Notes

[1] Richard Dawkins, in The God Delusion, Houghton Mifflin, 2006, p. 51.

[2] Jean-Clément Martin, Robespierre, la fabrication d'un monstre, Perrin, 2016. Other recent French historians who have drawn a rather positive image of Robespierre include Jean-Philippe Domecq, Robespierre, dernier temps , Folio/Histoire, 2011 and Cécile Obligi, Robespierre. La probité révoltante, Belin, 2012.

[3] Jean-Philippe Domecq, Robespierre, dernier temps , Folio/Histoire, 2011, p. 27-30

[4] My presentation owes a lot to Henri Guillemin, Robespierre, Politique et mystique, Seuil, 1987.

[5] Quoted in Ernst Kantorowicz, L'empereur Frédéric II , Gallimard, 1987 (1 st German ed. 1927), pp. 451-452.

[6] Jerry Brotton, The Renaissance Bazaar: From the Silk Road to Michelangelo, Oxford UP, 2010, pp. 66-67.

[7] Quoted in Jan Assmann, Religio Duplex: How the Enlightenment Reinvented Egyptian Religion, Polity Press, 2014, p. 59.

[8] Albert Lantoine, Un précurseur de la franc-maçonnerie. John Toland (1670–1722) , suivi de la traduction française du Pantheisticon de John Toland, Éditions E. Nourry, 1927.

[9] Auguste Valmorel, Œuvres de Robespierre, 1867 (sur fr.wikisource.org), p. 71.

[10] Henri Guillemin, Robespierre, Politique et mystique, Seuil, 1987, p. 351.

[11] A translation of this speech can be found in P. H. Beik (eds), The French Revolution: The Documentary History of Western Civilization. Palgrave Macmillan, 1970, but I have translated directly from the French.


gsjackson , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:47 am GMT

Rurik, call your office. The other day when you got schooled (along with me) by a Frenchman on the French Revolution, you tried to grasp on to a last punitive straw -- well, maybe Robespierre at least deserved the blade. As if on cue, LG here with more schooling.
obwandiyag , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:56 am GMT
Guillotines and our owners go together like a horse and carriage.
AnonStarter , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:59 am GMT
Thank you for providing further insight into the religious sentiment of Robespierre.

While the American Constitution itself does not include explicit mention of God, every U.S. State Constitution certainly does .

"It is impossible to live at peace with those we regard as damned."

In any event, better not to pretend to know.

There is much to be said for religious tradition in which humility before God prevents one from assuming his salvation is assured. Such a disposition facilitates dealing humanely and equitably with others, even those outside his own faith community.

Reg Cæsar , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 5:17 am GMT

Rousseau

One of the (many) surprising revelations in Pamela Druckerman's Bringing Up Bébé is that of French parents and educators drawing quite conservative views and practices from Rousseau. To us Anglo-Saxons, our disagreements about the man are over whether his radicalism is good or bad, not whether it exists at all.

And what does the dogma of original sin have to do with the good of civil society?

Just about everything. It's probably the most useful of the Christian doctrines to outsiders.

I knew a Midwestern Lutheran woman who spent decades teaching in the scruffier public schools of Los Angeles County, which suffered from high turnover in staff. Though of Scandinavian background and quite progressive on most things, this lady insisted that the single most reliable indicator that a teacher would survive in the blackboard jungle was a strong belief in original sin. One is prepared for the worst.

anon [359] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 5:17 am GMT
Another excellent essay by M. Guyenot. I recommend his From Yahweh to Zionism to all.

" I believe that modern atheism is, to a great extent, a reaction to the disgusting character presented as "God" in the Old Testament."

Indeed. George Bernard Shaw observed this in the Preface to his Back to Methuselah. Darwinism conquered the popular mind, not just biologists, because the people sought relief from the constant surveillance of the Calvinist God. It was only later -- too late -- when they discovered what else they had thrown away. Hence Shaw and Bergson's "Vitalism" and later "Intelligent Design."

The attempt to navigate between Biblical religion and atheistic Science reminds me of the suggestion by religious scholar Arthur Versluis and others that there is a third path -- Hermeticism -- that crops up periodically in the Western tradition -- basing belief in God, immortality and higher dimensions not in Hebrew fairy tales, nor limiting experience to the level of everyday materialism.

Change that Matters , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 7:26 am GMT
I enjoyed this very much. Thank you.
Ghali , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 8:19 am GMT
There is something unique about the French. They love to exaggerate (always in a positive way) their bloody and criminal history. Robespierre was a terrorist.
Global Navigator , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 9:13 am GMT
Hello Laurent,
Very much appreciated your article and your other articles . And thank you for mentioning my movie: Expelled. I was one of the Producers. We certainly appreciated Ben's contribution
brabantian , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 10:01 am GMT
Some nice historical work from Dr Laurent Guyénot above

Quite right too to denounce the Abrahamic 'God' as un ugly, terrorising, in fact demonic figure 'eternal torture hell' is one of the most evil notions ever invented

And tho we all need spirituality – having a 'god-shaped hole' otherwise in our lives

What needs to be understood is that Deism-type views are not sustainable, not genuinely transmissable to succeeding generations

Note that all these deists, essentially exist in a one-generation-only space of rejecting their childhood religion, intellectualising a less brutal form of it but then it fades away, there are few adherents which continue only a stream of similar people, rejecting their childhood religion and staying in the deist or unitarian half-way house for only their own lives

Faith cannot thrive without ritual, ceremony, practice in fact more important than ideas

E.g., Japan is full of shinto – buddhist rituals, lovingly maintained it is not an issue whether one truly 'believes' in the goddesses and gods etc the practices yet sustain for thousands of years

Deism fades and becomes dusty books on the shelf

Jewish writer Marcus Eli Ravage said the biggest crime of Jews was wiping out local indigenous pagan religions, replacing them with Christian and Islamic i.e. judaic fabrications, and supplanting paganism with Jewish lore in its place, shoving Jewish tales into our brains

But paganism in the west is also a sorry-ass affair, as far as we know, with disgusting animal sacrifices etc, and big deficiencies in thought and practice

The unique thing from ancient India, is the truly unique wonderful yoga meditation etc traditions offering direct experience of the divine, spiritual ecstasies accessible at almost any time for those of us who enter into these realms

In the West, the south and east asian traditions have slight echoes in stoicism, but in general we are missing something precious, however deep we dig into what is left of paganism that was not burned by the abrahamic fanatics

Ancient India's most beloved story, the Bhagavad-Gita, in 10 minutes – God stops time itself, to explain to a troubled warrior what life is all about 'Whoever thinks he can truly kill, or be killed, is under an illusion – no one truly dies the divine is already within you there are many paths to more fully re-join with that divinity the question now is just what is the right course, what is your duty So be brave, and Fight! Have no fear '

https://www.youtube.com/embed/CJ205esn7qE?feature=oembed

Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 11:06 am GMT
I found this article quite interesting. The book never seems to be closed on Robespierre and Rousseau, and for good reason, as the clash of ideas presented here continues to this day.
mcohen , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 11:24 am GMT
Is that so .did he say that.you mean like human sacrifice to the corn god.atzec relegion was bad for the heart.on the other hand a little african vodoo is a danger to the health of chickens in general.

More squat than squawk

"Jewish writer Marcus Eli Ravage said the biggest crime of Jews was wiping out local indigenous pagan religions, replacing them with Christian and Islamic i.e. judaic fabrications, and supplanting paganism with Jewish lore in its place, shoving Jewish tales into our brains"

It was a good article otherwise.

gotmituns , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 11:58 am GMT
I have nothing against god. I just think my ancestors in those dark forests of northern Europe shouldn't have been burdened with Christianity.
Jake , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 12:37 pm GMT
@gsjackson LG is just another old Revolutionary whose ideas always lead to some form of The Terror. He is no better than those Russians who felt that if only they removed the Tsar, and rejected a Constitutional monarch, that fairness would reign.

Robespierre may not have been quite as monstrous as those who took him down, but he was nonetheless a monster whose works served Satan.

It is either Christ and Christendom or some form of revolutionary chaos. If Russia is moving toward reviving Christendom, then Russia will save the civilization. If Russia is moving to promote more gnosticism, more hermeticism, more freemason tolerance of anything that claims some nebulous faith in some type creator, then Russia promotes what is necessary for the Hell hole that devours us today.

Clyde Wilson , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 12:38 pm GMT
The Confederate States constitution includes God in the preamble
Jake , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 12:43 pm GMT
@Ghali French revolutionaries who wish to pretend that they their favorite revolutionary butchers were actually good guys love to praise French revolution.

Either France begins to recreate Christendom and become once again Eldest Daughter of the Church, or France will die a suicide.

The universalist unitarians that Guyenot lauds who then rule what once was France will be Mohammedan, and their bankers will be Jewish.

Seraphim , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 12:52 pm GMT
Robespierre 'reluctantly' joining the 'Comité de salut public'? He was the first to propose the establishment of a 'Revolutionary Tribunal that had to deal with the "traitors" and "enemies of the people" in August 1792. The Tribunal was re-established by Danton and Robespierre in October 1793 and Robespierre was its principal purveyor. He was the father of 'La Terreur'. The imposition of his ridiculous 'Cult of the Supreme Being' coincides with the peak of Terror (when he was personally responsible for nearly 800 executions a month) and the reason of his demise. People did not appreciate it and Robespierre's answer was to draft a new list of public enemies who would be sent before the tribunal and executed and passing the infamous Law of 22 Prairial. That was too much even for the other revolutionary criminals.
In essence he was as anti-Christian as his mentors Rousseau, Voltaire, as all the sacred monsters of the 'Enlightnment' and his enemies the atheists. He was really the 'Executioner of the Vendee'. You won't expect (I hope) anyone to take someone like Melenchon seriously.
Was he a mason? Maybe not, with a 'party card', so to speak, but he wallowed in the Masonic cesspool that engulfed France in the 18th century. His grand father was a mason ("his father, who died in Germany, was of English origin; this may explain the shade of Puritanism in his character", if you believe Lamartine). There is little doubt that he met Adam Weishaupt, therefore an 'Illuminatus' and a fanatical one at that.
Maybe he was a tragic figure, "overwhelmed by a political blindness that bordered on the pathetic or madness, he refused to understand that he lived in a time other than that of the Roman Republic", but no less sinister ('There was softness, but of a sinister character', again if you believe Lamartine). An "autistic" that drifted slowly but surely towards the "crime against humanity" that he would have surely committed if the technical resources of the 18th century had allowed mass exterminations"(Joël Schmidt, Robespierre, 2011, p. 229-230).
anon [358] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 12:52 pm GMT

Therefore, there is no reason to consider that, in Robespierre's speeches, "Supreme Being" meant anything else than God.

The fact remains he did not simply use the word "God". The French language does have a word for 'it'. From a theological point of view, he is also asserting a 'continum' of "being" with a "supreme" being on the tippy top of the ("not masonic!!!!") pyramid.

Mick Jagger gathers no mosque , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:09 pm GMT
What's a soul? Do animals have one?

That which is created by God and is the animating principle of
Men
Animals
Vegetables

No, Robespierre did not have the same idea of God as did the Faithful but this incessant attempt to rewrite history is not surprising but it should be noted that what it really is is projection by an atheist author who is always searching for "proof" that will justify his refusal to accept God as He revealed Himself to us.

Said otherwise, he has an endless series of authorities which he has replaced God with

Now he certainly is not fooling those have the Faith once delivered and I doubt he has fooled himself, which is why he is always rabbiting on about this bll shite

Saggy , says: Website Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:22 pm GMT
While the article's criticisms of dogmatic religion are valid, the notion of a non-dogmatic 'supreme being' and the rest is pure malarkey, to wit .

The dogmas of civil religion ought to be few, simple, and exactly worded, without explanation or commentary. The existence of a mighty, intelligent and beneficent Divinity, possessed of foresight and providence, the life to come, the happiness of the just, the punishment of the wicked, the sanctity of the social contract and the laws:

Here is the reality, if there is a 'God' or 'supreme being' he is murderous and wicked beyond belief, as he/she/it has created a world populated by creatures that survive by eating each other, literally. We live in a sort of hell, and the fact that we have tried to create a world based on kindness and justice is a tribute to the human race, and certainly not to any supreme being.

RVBlake , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT
Fascinating article, Monsieur.
Athletic and Whitesplosive , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:32 pm GMT
He shared the primary trait of atheism (as does the author of this piece seemingly), which is a revulsion towards the concept of personal moral duties and judgment. They want an all-powerful being to relieve them of their existential angst (for hardcore atheists, "reason" and "progress" fill this role), but one that also doesn't particularly care for how his creation operates and isn't judgmental, therefore all things which the atheist can rationalize as 'harmless' are permitted (sexual perversion, homosexuality, usury, occassionally murdering political opponents, and of course perverting worship of the almighty toward the whims of the state). It's not disgust with God in the old testament which leads to criticism, it's the atheist's own bad character which leads them to soothe their conscience with a bad-faith criticism of scripture (this libel is of course both faulty of content and circular, in that Christian morals are the basis of the criticism which flow from the same God they supposedly criticize).

The eternally pathetic Dawkins says that from his misreading of scripture he finds Yahweh a racist, misogynistic homophobe. What else need be said in support of Yahweh's good character? In the western world, these are the words that professional mediocrities like Dawkins use to describe anyone of any moral worth at all.

Moi , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:36 pm GMT
@brabantian Nonsense!
Athletic and Whitesplosive , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:37 pm GMT
@Saggy So sayeth the eternal mediocrity. Just because you're a loser, that doesn't make the world hell, there's still time to reform.

And I would take some small effort to address your idiot logic, but bad faith arguments aren't worthy of serious response.

Moi , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:40 pm GMT
@Jake No such person as a Mohammedan.
Mick Jagger gathers no mosque , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 1:53 pm GMT
@Clyde Wilson Dear Mr. Wilson. "Hilary is a museum quality Yankee?"

Are you the author of that great quote and numerous books and articles?

If you are, God Bless you Sir. I have read your work for a LONG time at Chronicles, in books, at The Abbeyville Institute etc.

You are national treasure and it is a crime against culture that you are not prompted as are the cultural cranks and commie creeps most American get their ideas from.

anon [358] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 2:04 pm GMT
@Mick Jagger gathers no mosque

this incessant attempt to rewrite history

We disagree on this. IMHO the author is ' writing ' history. Here is trying to whitewash the fact that "Orthodox Christian" Putin is pushing the "Supreme Being" line (even though all major recognized religions in Russia in fact call 'it' God), lest the captive humanity analysing the entrails of the ruling classes' maneuvers catch a hint of the unity of ideological purpose of the ruling classes worldwide .

Digital Samizdat , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 2:49 pm GMT
Another ringer from Laurent!

A fascinating take on Robespierre. I, too, was always taught that he was some kind of Mason whose 'Supreme Being' was just some kind of personification of Cartesian reason. But if your account of his beliefs here is accurate, then I would have to say he was a much more substantial figure than I initially suspected.

One thing that really shines through in your essay is how very patriotic Robespierre was. I daresay, had the Papacy been French, he might well have remained a traditional Catholic!

"The Thermidorians -- thus have Robespierre's conquerors and successors been dubbed -- sought not only to justify their coup d'état of July 1794 (the month of Thermidor in the revolutionary calendar) but to evade the opprobrium they shared with Robespierre and his comrades for deeds done during the agonizing crisis the previous year, during the Terror. The vengeful malice of the Thermidorians was partly successful: their caricature of Robespierre has proved durable."

Very much like what Krushchev and, in their own way, the Trotskyites did to Stalin after his death as well. And of course, virtually everyone's still doing it to Hitler.

Agent76 , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 3:10 pm GMT
Feb 2, 2020 Head Of The Russian Orthodox Church Proposes To Mention GOD in New Constitution!

He thinks the mention would be appreciated by all faiths alike.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qnVVJHFyUHc?feature=oembed

Lockean Proviso , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 3:23 pm GMT
@brabantian

'eternal torture hell' is one of the most evil notions ever invented

It was invented by the Catholic church. Fortunately, thanks to Reformation's products of literacy for us rabble, bibles in the vernacular languages, and individual free will, we can see the lies of the Great Whore for ourselves.

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:20

As for God in the constitution, it's the thin end of the wedge towards theocracy- a goal that the Vatican has been sharpening its knives for for a long time. The papacy abhors separation of church and state.

Alden , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 3:35 pm GMT
@Jake Having had easy access to 3 of the greatest university libraries in the USA and being able to read French pretty well, I'm an amateur historian very familiar with the despicable land and property grab known as the French Revolution.

I'm not going to bother to refute this author's outright lies. Too much trouble and can't be bothered to cite the books, except for Abbe Burrel's , Simon Schema's somebody last name Batz, and Renee Boudereau's memoirs.

If you live in Los Angeles and can read French, you can go to the rare book section of Loyola university library in Westchester near the airport and read Renee Boudereau's memoirs. It's easy to read, short simple factual sentences like Camus.

BTW, it was a death penalty offense just to be a catholic priest or nun in France during the worst of the French Revolution. Not spying for England, not active in the counter revolution, not even saying mass, marrying and baptizing, just being a catholic priest or nun.

Little known fact. The Devil's Island penal colony was created by the French revolutionaries for catholic priests. The sight of gray haired parish priests and nuns who ran the local hospital before the revolutionaries closed it lined up to be guillotined caused counter revolutionary sentiment.

So the less radical revolutionaries created the penal colonies of Devil's Island as a way to get rid of the priests without the public spectacle of beheading the headmaster of the local high schools , and hospital administrators.

Confiscation of church property meant closing every hospital, orphanage, mental health asylum and most of the schools in France for years. Storming of the Bastille to " free" the prisoners. 7 prisoners , everyone a severely sick dangerous mental patient sent there because all the insane asylums, all of which were run by the church were closed.

Closing the high schools really pissed off the upper bourgeoisie because that's where their sons and daughters learned the skills needed to remain in the upper bourgeoisie

What a crock of lies and propaganda.

Who gives a rat's ass about some homocidal maniac's constitution that was only in effect for a few months anyway before his government was overthrown with another round of executions?

I once counted the number of governments France had between 1789 and 1816. I think maybe 8 different forms of government.

If the rest of this writer's articles are as false wrong and just plain ignorant as this one, nothing he writes is to be believed.

At least it's not some kind of quadruple exponent new math about the Chinese Plague killing off half the population of the earth.

Anon [804] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 3:59 pm GMT
So Robespierre was fighting against the atheists. Good. And his "Etre Supreme" wasn't another Freemason humanism. Fine.
But unlike Putin who only wants to enshrine the Russians "faith in god" in the constitution, Robespierre wanted "the priests who submitted to the pope" to take an oath on the Civil Constitution. That was a very bad idea, even if the pope was a foreigner. Putin doesn't try to officially mix in the church's business, he just want to make sure the atheists/masonics zionists/communists from the West won't be allowed to take power again in Russia. States shouldn't officially pretend to mix in church's organization.
And while Robespierre didn't try to repel the official masonic "Droits de l'homme" religion which teaches that human beings are God, Putin is just doing it by officially putting God above men, and he is damn right.
Montefrío , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:11 pm GMT
The West and its metaphysically impoverished societies would do well to consider Zen (Chán) , an atheistic philosophy that is transcendent and moral without concepts of eternal reward or punishment, without scriptures, without a priestly caste, without "worship". It simply states that the simultaneity between mind and Mind is all that IS . Once this is internalized, one continues daily life as before, but with a deeper understanding of it without anxiety, without unbalanced desires but with with a sense of wonder at all that unfolds in the course of time, including one's own death, the time of transition.

Living in the West, as I do, I see no need to criticize the dominant religious beliefs however incomprehensible I might find them. I live in what once was Christendom, honoring and respecting the moral and ethical beliefs and customs of these societies, now sickeningly secularized to the degree that natural law is openly and approvingly flouted. The metaphysics of Zen is quite simple in theory, but requires self-discipline to put into practice. Self-discipline seems to be something the consumerist societies of the West have forgotten.

Ship Track , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:18 pm GMT
@Seraphim

"There is little doubt that he met Adam Weishaupt, therefore an 'Illuminatus' and a fanatical one at that."

All this blather about "supreme being" does sound awfully Masonic, but I believe far more in judging people by their actions than by their words, likely because of numerous painful experiences dealing with lawyers and especially jewish lawyers who will say anything they think can get away with.

romar , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:30 pm GMT
Thanks for this very interesting discussion.
As for this comment "More surprisingly, Communist Party boss Gennady Zyuganov raises no objection", the late Yvan Blot offered a fascinating tableau of Zyuganov the communist and man of faith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-mcp3WF-Cg&list=PL8nCjSDFd70kS8t1W5pNRoiIgPal-lyc0&index=2&t=0s – from 51:30.
Elmer's Washable School Glue , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:32 pm GMT
@Lockean Proviso

As for God in the constitution, it's the thin end of the wedge towards theocracy- a goal that the Vatican has been sharpening its knives for for a long time. The papacy abhors separation of church and state.

Imagine unironically believing "seperation of church and state" is a real thing. An official religion is a prerequisite for the existence of governmnt.

Fortunately, thanks to Reformation's products of literacy for us rabble, bibles in the vernacular languages, and individual free will, we can see the lies of the Great Whore for ourselves.

Do you know literally anything about theology? Orthodox and Catholic christians believe in the concept free will, it is Protestants (not all sects but some) that reject it. Get a clue.

Saggy , says: Website Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:54 pm GMT
There is no question that Putin has a very cozy relationship with Chabad, For a different perspective of Putin's changes to the Russian Constitution see
PUTIN TO ADD NOAHIDE LAW TO RUSSIAN CONSTITUTION
https://www.bitchute.com/video/B8MQ4lHsxwg/
Dumb4asterisks , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 4:59 pm GMT
My terribly simplistic understanding of Laurent's rather long and certainly scholarly exposition, is that he feels that for the sake of science and the adults we can declare Santa dead, but please not make any attempt upon His life for the sake of the children and Christmas.
Robjil , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 5:06 pm GMT
@Lockean Proviso In ancient Egypt, people who did bad deeds were punished in the afterlife. A deceased person, goes before a scale of justice. His/her heart is weighed against a feather. He/she is asked 42 divine principles. If the deceased heart weights too much with too many bad deeds, it is devoured by Ammit.

The idea of punishment for bad deeds is a very old concept for humanity. It needs to come back for the warmongering neocons and regime changers of our day.

Here is how the deceased goes to the scale of justice. The 42 divine principles, good deeds, decides the deceased's fate.

http://maatlaws.blogspot.com/

In Spellbook/Chapter 30B of The Papyrus of Ani titled "Chapter for Not Letting Ani's Heart Create Opposition Against Him, in the Gods' Domain," we find a petitioner of ma'at (justice/truth) before the scales of justice (iconography ma'at/goddess maat). Anubis, the setter of the scales, has placed the petitioner's heart-soul (Ka) on one side of the scale, its counter-weight is the feather of truth (Shu). The Spellbook/Chapter for Not Letting Ani's Heart Create Opposition Against Him in the Gods' Domain is where the petitioner must pronounce, and his/her weighted heart/soul (Ka) will reveal the truth or non-truth of each affirmative of the 42 pronouncements.

Here is Ammit who devours the doers of bad deeds.

http://www.kemet.org/taxonomy/term/128

(Am-mut) – "Dead-Swallower" Stationed just to the side of the scales in the Hall of Double Truth [see Ma'at], Ammit's function is to await the postmortem judgment of a soul (envisioned as the deceased's heart being weighed on a scale against the feather of Ma'at) and then, if the soul fails the test, Ammit snatches up the heart and devours it, causing the soul to cease to exist. As the ultimate punishment of the wicked, Ammit is depicted as a hideous composite of the animals Kemet's people feared most: crocodile snout and head, feline claws and front, and a hippopotamus body and back legs. Ammit is also sometimes referred to as "Great of Death," and papyri depict Her patiently watching Yinepu weighing a man's heart against the feather of Ma'at.

Ram , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT
Good for Russia.
MikeatMikedotMike , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 5:49 pm GMT
This has been a very refreshing article for several reasons that should be obvious. I look forward to reading more of this kind in the future.

"If voted in the upcoming referendum, it would consecrate the civilizational schism that is likely to define the history of our civilization in the coming century: in the West, the post-modernist project of liberating man from his human nature, to produce an uprooted, transgendered, upgraded man, Homo Deus. In the East, the choice of honoring and protecting our spiritual and anthropological roots, to produce the genuine thing: Mars and Venus, virile men and feminine women grateful to their Creator for each other, reveling in their fertile complementarity."

I'm not sure I've read a more succinct summary of what is happening to our civilization.

DM , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 5:54 pm GMT
@Lockean Proviso Rev 20:11-15

Hell is hardly an invention of the Catholic Church – it is found in King James, Douay and Orthodox Bibles:

"And I saw a great white throne and one sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away: and there was no place found for them And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne. And the books were opened: and another book was opened, which was the book of life. And the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it: and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them. And they were judged, every one according to their works. And hell and death were cast into the pool of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the pool of fire.

Robjil , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 5:58 pm GMT
@Saggy It is not as "cozy" as in the US congress and in the ZUS empire. Chabbad does not have as much "fun" in Russia as in the ZUS empire.

https://www.jta.org/2018/02/01/global/u-s-born-rabbi-called-extremist-kicked-out-of-russia

For the eighth time over the past decade, Russian authorities told a foreign Chabad rabbi living in Russia to leave the country.

Josef Marozof, a New York native who began working 12 years ago for Chabad in the city of Ulyanovsk, 400 miles east of Moscow, was ordered earlier this week to leave because the FSB security service said he had been involved in unspecified "extremist behavior."

Alden , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 6:05 pm GMT
Two old French proverbs are applicable here.

First, there are 3 sides to every story, his, hers and the truth.

Second, don't listen to what he says, watch what he does.

Castro, Lyndon Johnson, Hildabeast, the Civil Rights For all but Whites laws, , Mao, Lenin Stalin Trotsky, Pelosi, every liberal do gooder idealist like Robespierre and the rest talk do gooderism while we watch them looting, confiscating and slaughtering.

Author reminds me of all the dumb naive liberal American and European soi disant idiot intellectual visionary do gooders who visited Russia during the 1939s and came back with glowing reports of the wonderful society of the future.

John Howard , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 6:32 pm GMT
@Athletic and Whitesplosive Athletic and Whitesplosive wrote the following falsehood:

" atheism , which is a revulsion towards the concept of personal moral duties and judgment."

That is exactly the opposite of the truth. For openers, atheisim is merely the lack of a particular superstition. Secondly, most atheists believe that morality and truth are so important that they deserve a better foundation than a bunch of ancient Jewish superstitions taken on faith.

Those old superstitions were designed to promote faith (believe what you are told to believe) and self-sacrifice (don't defend yourself) because they make people easier to rob and rule.

Anon [237] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 6:35 pm GMT
The only thing that enshrining a vague-God in the constitution would accomplish is the Tribe eventually twisting the meaning to meet the definition and needs of whatever demon they worship.

Propose to enshrine the specific Indo-European God in Constitutions and then we have something to talk about.

Alden , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 6:45 pm GMT
@Anon The civil constitution Robespierre demanded priests take an oath to with the death penalty if they didn't lasted less than a year. The author is writing about a constitution that lasted less than a year.

I think it was 6 governments between 1789 and 1800 and more after 1800 each with its own written or implied constitution.

Why not just write an article that it's good the new Russian constitution will mention God?

Instead of bringing in this ridiculous conventional version of the French Revolution? I assume he's trying to impress us with his scholarly knowledge, but he sure hasn't impressed me with his fantasies about Robespierre.

Reg Cæsar , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 6:46 pm GMT
@Moi

No such person as a Mohammedan.

That's like saying there is no such person as a Lutheran, or a Calvinist, or a Maoist. A Mohammedan has much in common with all three. If anything, his prophet was a blend of all three founders, with a fair bit of Joseph Smith, Napoleon, and Hitler to boot.

Reg Cæsar , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 6:52 pm GMT
@Mick Jagger gathers no mosque

"Hilary is a museum quality Yankee?"

If you mean Hillary, she has no more Yankee blood than does Donald Trump, and less than Obama's 1%. She also supports income taxation and the New Deal. (As does much of the so-called "alt-right.") No Yankee, she.

Eating pie for breakfast isn't enough.

Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 7:01 pm GMT
Bring back the old pagan gods.
Dennis Dale , says: Website Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 7:18 pm GMT

I can't wait for the day when Intelligent Design research will be funded in Russian universities, rather than censored as it is in the U.S. (watch Ben Stein's documentary Expelled: No Intelligent Allowed).

I was enjoying the walk you were leading me on until I stepped in this dog shit. I'm sure the rest of the journey was fascinating. But I avoid crazy as a rule.

S , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 8:18 pm GMT
@Alden The one's who managed to make their way back were the lucky ones. Thousands didn't, either being executed, or Gulaged, where they indeed 'found work', but, not of the type they were counting on.

The Forsaken: An American Tragedy in Stalin's Russia by Tim Tzouliadis is a 2008 book published by Penguin Books. It tells the story of thousands of Americans who immigrated to the Soviet Union in the 1930s. The vast majority of these Americans were executed or sent to the Gulag by Joseph Stalin's government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forsaken:_An_American_Tragedy_in_Stalin's_Russia

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3171446-the-forsaken

Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 8:29 pm GMT
@Dennis Dale I agree. If people want to dabble in Intelligent Design, fine. But it has no place in real science.
Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 8:31 pm GMT
What does it matter what Robespierre thought or whether he was good or bad?

Why should our values be a matter of revering certain individuals? That's cult of personality, or idolatry.

Ship Track , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 9:01 pm GMT
In a related revisionist hangout, Robert Sepehr has long been exposing ancient masonic secrets, his videos just keep getting better. here is his channel.

A recent video is Who created the Bible

Hibernian , says: Show Comment April 6, 2020 at 9:10 pm GMT
@John Howard Those superstitions sustained many generations through many trials and tribulations. Science, industry, and affluence tempt people to believe they don't need God, then in time of trouble they rediscover Him.
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oglalla @ 141

I never mentioned or voiced any support for Trump or Pelosi, and speaking of straw, you probably don't even realize that your response is a textbook example of a straw man argument which involves refuting an argument that was not actually presented. Well done.

I live in Hawaii and know what my neighbors think. I'm glad Gabbard is back here and making a difference instead of wasting more time on the pointless theatre of the DNC. I don't like the Biden support but name one serious candidate who fought the MIC these primaries or got 5% of the MSM hostility that Gabbard took. That would be no one. Your disappointment is of no concern to the people of Hawaii.

Like I've said before. I'll wait to hear about the Biden issue from the candidate herself before breaking out the tar and feathers. Right now she's got more important things to do that satisfying random bloggers.

uncle tungsten , Apr 6 2020 8:32 utc | 160

sad canuck #123

I am fine with Tulsi bailing out for her community and that is precisely the most sincere thing to do. I applaud that move.

Endorsing Biden at any time? NO WAY> that man is a republican in drag, a scumbag in a suit, a thief in in a cassock,a creep in the vestry, a carpetbagger backing fascist Ukraine and stealing from their people. He and his decrepit son stole the USA and IMF loans and left the Ukrainian people to pay them off. She endorsed that shit.

Silence would have been the appropriate action and tactically correct until after the Convention if she was politically intent to await the process between the B and the B.

[Apr 05, 2020] More like intel agency ass covering or gross incompetancy of Trump administration?

Apr 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Apr 2 2020 16:32 utc | 8

Philip Giraldi knows who to blame:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/02/another-expensive-war-another-intelligence-failure/

"...the intelligence agencies were warning about information derived from medical sources in China that suggested viruses were developing that might become a pandemic, but the politicians, most particularly those in the White House, chose to take no action. He writes that " the Trump administration has cumulatively failed, both in taking seriously the specific, repeated intelligence community warnings about a coronavirus outbreak and in vigorously pursuing the nationwide response initiatives commensurate with the predicted threat. The federal government alone has the resources and authorities to lead the relevant public and private stakeholders to confront the foreseeable harms posed by the virus. Unfortunately, Trump officials made a series of judgments (minimizing the hazards of COVID-19) and decisions (refusing to act with the urgency required) that have needlessly made Americans far less safe."


"The article cites evidence that the intelligence community was collecting disturbing information on possibly developing pathogens in China and was, as early as January, preparing analytical reports that detailed just what was happening while also providing insights into how devastating the global proliferation of a highly contagious and potential lethal virus might be. One might say that the intel guys called it right, but were ignored by the White House, which, per Zenko, acted with "unprecedented indifference, even willful negligence...."

c1ue , Apr 2 2020 18:32 utc | 36

@bevin #8
In January? Really? Seems like the highly paid and budgeted intelligence agencies should be able to do a better job of predicting the nCOV threat before China instituted a shutdown on January 23 due to its view that nCOV was a problem.

Frankly, seems more like intel agency ass covering than anything else.

[Apr 05, 2020] Jimmy Dore Challenges Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Regarding Her Praising the Virtue of US Military Service by Adam Dick

Apr 02, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org
In August and November I wrote about the strangeness of United States House of Representatives member and then 2020 Democratic presidential nomination candidate Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) regularly playing up her 16-plus years and counting employment in the United States military, and other Americans' service in the US military as well, as a virtue while she at the same time makes opposing major actions of that military, including the carrying out of certain wars, a focus of her congressional work and campaign.

Jimmy Dore, who has similar concerns about Gabbard's rhetoric promoting the virtue of service in the US military, asked Gabbard about this in an interview with Gabbard at his The Jimmy Dore Show in March. In the interview focused largely on Gabbard's announcing , upon her dropping out of the Democratic presidential nomination race, that she is supporting Joe Biden for president, Dore asked several tough questions in an effort to induce Gabbard to address the matter directly. Here is the initial exchange between Dore and Gabbard on the topic, with Dore twice attempting to elicit a clear explanation from Gabbard:

DORE: So, I just wanted to talk with you a little bit more about antiwar veterans. So, a lot of veterans and antiwar veterans watch this show, and I meet them when we do events and everything. And they wanted me to ask you this. They say a lot of antiwar veterans say they are not proud to have served, that they are sorry to have taken part, and they offer apology to the countries that they occupied and the people that are living there, and that participating in these wars is only a service to weapons manufacturers and war profiteers. So, what do you say to that?

GABBARD: I respect every veteran -- those who make those statements and those who express their pride in serving our country. I am personally I am proud to wear this country's uniform. I am grateful for the privilege of being able to serve. And it is those experiences that I have had throughout my service that have motivated me to dedicate all of my energy towards bringing about the political change in our leadership that actually honors the great sacrifice, selflessness, and courage that our men and women in uniform and that our veterans lay on the line. I think that it's important to draw that line of distinction between those who serve and wear the uniform and who salute the flag versus the politicians who are dishonoring that service through the policies that they are advocating for.

DORE: So, I mean it seems to me that soldiers are not fighting for the safety and security of this country when they go over to places like Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan. They're actually achieving the opposite. even in fighting the War on Terror, where it's observed that for every civilian killed we create two more jihadis. And so, I mean, it just seems, given your piercing criticisms of these corporate interventions, can you square that circle for me -- how you can be proud to serve in things that you call out for being wrong?

GABBARD: I'm proud to serve our country. I am angered by the politicians who needlessly send our troops into harms way to fight in wars that don't make us any safer. There are missions that our troops are sent on to go and defeat ISIS and al-Qaeda that are focused on making the American people safe, and those are missions that should continue to defeat that threat that is posed to our national security and foreign policy. But, you're right, there are a lot of missions in whether it's continued deployments in Afghanistan without any clear objective or any clear goal that actually serves our country's security interests or, you know, regime change wars like we've in Iraq and Syria and Libya and other countries that actually undermine our national security interests. So, there is a difference and a distinction, especially when you know, when you understand that it's the politicians who are making these decisions and it's why I'm focusing my efforts on bringing about that change there to truly honor them and their service.

Later in the interview, Dore returned to the topic, again seeking to obtain from Gabbard a coherent explanation while presenting his concern that Gabbard's promotion of the virtue of being in the US military can encourage other people to choose employment in the US government's war machine:
DORE: So, I just have one more question. So, a couple months ago there's these kids who live across the street from me. I don't know how, they're like 16 through 19, and they're out washing their car, and then three recruiters jumped out of their car and started recruiting them to go fight in these bogus wars. And, so, Stef and I went out, and we started talking to the kids, and we said: "You don't have to listen to these guys; tell these guys to get lost." And, so, it made me think, you know, everything that you touch you make it a little more attractive, so, are you worried that people are joining these bogus wars because you made joining a little more attractive?

GABBARD: No. I'm not. There's great honor in serving our country, and, whether you're a kid who's graduating high school or you're someone of any age and you make that decision to go and serve our country, no matter the political circumstances, that is a very rare and special thing. I also respect those who say, 'No, I won't join the military because I don't want to be in that position to have to go and fight in a war that a politician sends me to go and fight." And I respect people's decisions on both ends of the spectrum. But, there is no honor lost in those who make that decision, raising their right hand to say "I'm willing to lay my life down for my country and the safety and well-being of the American people." And that's a decision that's motivated by love.

Watch these exchanges between Dore and Gabbard, and the complete interview, here:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Jka28F9ldBg

Good for Dore for trying three times in the interview to elicit from Gabbard a clear, logical answer about this important apparent contradiction at the heart of one of her major areas of focus in politics. All he received back was more of the same nonsense rhetoric Gabbard has been putting out for so long, the same rhetoric the logic of which Dore was challenging.

Luckily for Gabbard, few other people will broach the subject Dore broached. The social convention that everyone should thank people in the military for their service and shut up about any criticisms they may have about such service is so strong that few interviewers have the guts to question Gabbard about this elephant in the room.


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[Mar 29, 2020] The grand betrayal of Tulsi Gabbard

Was she bought or threatened or what?
Notable quotes:
"... Because Biden is the ultimate "anti-Gabbard", she should have endorsed either Bernie, or even Trump, but instead she endorsed a morally corrupt warmonger, a total pawn for the MIC. ..."
"... What, exactly, did Tulsi owe to Bernie? I don’t recall him defending her from the Russiagate bots – even Yang did far more of that than Bernie. ..."
"... Bernie had instead been too busy sucking up to the young careerist SJWs in his movement and to the Russiagate freaks, rather appropriate that he was Russiagated out of the nomination, LOL. ..."
"... Very sad to see. I just figure they got to her in some way through blackmail, threatening her family, etc. Seems rather out of character otherwise. The description of Biden is apt, real scum he is. ..."
"... The virus, whatever it’s origin, has provided the opportunity to revoke whatever is left of the rights of the populace, the best since 9-11. ..."
"... Biden was main actor in starting two wars. War in Libya and war in Syria . On top of it Biden did have a fishy deals in Ukraine and China. ..."
"... She could have waited until the bitter end to endorse the Democratic candidate, if she wanted to keep her word. Or she could have not done so, in the same way that a soldier need not follow an illegal order, or anyone with a conscience would avoid endorsing a committed and repeated warmonger. ..."
"... It is academic for me to argue which party is the dumbest, since I believe both are part of the Deep State. But currently the dems have it over the repubs in stupidity. Gabbard was the best in a horrible lineup. She was a one trick pony…antiwar…but a great trick. I know about the promise to endorse the nominee…but Biden is brain dead. ..."
Mar 29, 2020 | www.unz.com

... ... ...

It was pretty clear to most observers that Tulsi Gabbard, being the only real "peace candidate" would never be allowed to get the nomination, nevermind make it into the White House. It was also clear that Tulsi, for all her very real qualities, simply did not have what it takes to take on "The Swamp". Still, in spite of this all, her candidacy and campaign were like a huge pitcher of cool water in the middle of an immense and dry desert. Her uniqueness amongst all the candidate is what make her betrayal even more painful for those who respected or even supported her. Once it became clear that she would never get the nomination, not only did she not run as an independent (something which Hillary seems to fear a lot), she endorsed Uncle Joe, the clearly senile, totally corrupt and generally repugnant frontman for the Clinton gang. This endorsement of Biden is something which she did not have to do, but she did it.

When the DNC stole the nomination from Sanders, he did not lead a protest or run as an independent, he endorsed Hillary. I always considered him a fraud for this (and many other) reasons. Now Tulsi Gabbard is doing the same thing, which probably is a good indicator that the Democratic Party is evil and corrupt to the core, which is hardly big news, but which is dramatically confirmed by Gabbard's profoundly immoral decision. Why do I say that?

Because Biden is the ultimate "anti-Gabbard", she should have endorsed either Bernie, or even Trump, but instead she endorsed a morally corrupt warmonger, a total pawn for the MIC.

At the end of the day, she mostly betrayed herself, and that is the saddest aspect of this debacle.


Anatoly Karlin , says: • Website Show Comment March 25, 2020 at 11:34 pm GMT

What, exactly, did Tulsi owe to Bernie? I don’t recall him defending her from the Russiagate bots – even Yang did far more of that than Bernie.

Bernie had instead been too busy sucking up to the young careerist SJWs in his movement and to the Russiagate freaks, rather appropriate that he was Russiagated out of the nomination, LOL.

All the candidates, including Tulsi, had committed to supporting the winner and Bernie’s odds by the time Tulsi endorsed Biden were very close to zero. It is ironic, as noted by Michael Tracey, that it is generally Tulsi’s most eager supporters who were most inclined to dismiss her own words.

anonymous [400] • Disclaimer , says: Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 12:20 am GMT

she mostly betrayed herself,

Very sad to see. I just figure they got to her in some way through blackmail, threatening her family, etc. Seems rather out of character otherwise. The description of Biden is apt, real scum he is.

The virus, whatever it’s origin, has provided the opportunity to revoke whatever is left of the rights of the populace, the best since 9-11.

Turkey lacks either the will, or the capability

At this point they probably have way lower capability than their numbers suggest. They’ve had enough to deal with just Kurd guerillas. Their approach is NATO style throwing a lot of ordinance at targets. Don’t count on them for anything.

Zarathustra , says: Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 4:09 am GMT
Trump will wipe the floor with Biden. Biden was main actor in starting two wars. War in Libya and war in Syria . On top of it Biden did have a fishy deals in Ukraine and China.

Biden is a dead duck with slow wit. He has no chance.

Antiwar7 , says: Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 8:25 am GMT
@Anatoly Karlin

She could have waited until the bitter end to endorse the Democratic candidate, if she wanted to keep her word. Or she could have not done so, in the same way that a soldier need not follow an illegal order, or anyone with a conscience would avoid endorsing a committed and repeated warmonger.

der einzige , says: • Website Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 10:29 am GMT
This is my comment from a year ago, if Saker censor read it, he wouldn’t be surprised. It just means his “analysis” is worth shit.
How can anyone who is a CFR member or serves two rounds in Iraq based on Colin Powell be anyone good? How the fuck?

https://www.unz.com/tsaker/the-tulsi-gabbard-phenomenon-as-a-diagnostic-tool/#comment-3042562

All his writing (description of the facts (after the facts) of what everyone can see) brings nothing and any forecasts are wrong (love for Tulsi, fall of Ukraine, nuclear war threatening as an excuse for Russia’s submission to the Empire).

Saker was over when he began to censor those who disagree with him and who, as you can see, are right. Pride walks before falling. Fuck him and his great Tulsi love!

Realist , says: Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 12:26 pm GMT
@Anatoly Karlin

It is academic for me to argue which party is the dumbest, since I believe both are part of the Deep State. But currently the dems have it over the repubs in stupidity. Gabbard was the best in a horrible lineup. She was a one trick pony…antiwar…but a great trick. I know about the promise to endorse the nominee…but Biden is brain dead.

gepay , says: Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 4:52 pm GMT
If I had known that she had promised to endorse the Democratic nominee I would never have had thoughts about her candidacy. since she was my choice based on her anti regime change stance I knew she didn’t have a chance. She had watched Bernie get deprived of the nomination in 2016. It was worrisome that she was a former CFR member. It didn’t bother me that she didn’t get into 9/11 as that is death for anyone who wants the system to take them seriously. It did bother me that she didn’t confront the Israeli – whatever you want to call it. Especially as the media ignored her and the party worked against her. She was an attractive candidate and seemed sincere but the Dem voters never considered her. so fooled again. then again we here all know that the President only has so much power against the national security evolving police state and MIC and global deep state. If they use it then they only have to watch the Zapruder film for their near future or their loved ones.
vot tak , says: Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 7:21 pm GMT
“she should have endorsed either Bernie, or even Trump,”

Even the likud quisling trump? And this would be less of a betrayal than endorsing biden? In what delusional alternative universe?

William H Warrick III MD , says: Show Comment March 26, 2020 at 10:06 pm GMT
Tulsi’s problem is that she thinks GIs SHOULD NOT REFUSE TO DEPLOY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY LIKE WE DID 53 YEARS AGO. She thinks THEY HAVE A DUTY TO GO!!! She probably doesn’t even know who Smedley Butler is. She wants to end the Regime Change Wars but has no idea how to do it!!! So now she is supporting a Warmonger who just had a #Me To charge and his accuser has been labeled a RUSSIAN AGENT AND WAS DOXXED.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/14tfnIkQ-qU?feature=oembed

John Chuckman , says: • Website Show Comment March 27, 2020 at 11:21 am GMT
“At the end of the day, she mostly betrayed herself, and that is the saddest aspect of this debacle.”
It would be sad in everyday life, but national politics and everyday life have almost nothing in common.
And that is all the truer when discussing the national politics of the United States, which may fairly be characterized as ruthless and totally corrupt.
Tulsi Gabbard is a young, intelligent, appealing woman who wants a political career ahead of her.
Her prospects would instantly drop to zero if she did not endorse the party’s candidate.
I find it disappointing that she did so, but I find the entire American political scene disappointing.
I am not even clear why a person like Tulsi would want to run in the United States.
Perhaps it indicates an underlying level of naivete?
Still some lingering belief in the high school civics class vision of American politics?
Stuff about guys in frock coats pledging their sacred honor?
Bringing good intentions to Washington is bit like Jesus’s statement about throwing pearls before swine.
I am not even sure what Tulsi was doing because her ability to change anything important is also about zero – even in the imaginary world of becoming president.
The game is fixed. The stakes are so immense with just the military/security arm of the establishment burning through a trillion dollars a year.
It virtually all exists to serve plutocrats and empire.
None of those powerful people want a “change” candidate.
The last president who actually thought he could challenge the American establishment left half his head on a street in Dallas.
Anonymous [425] • Disclaimer , says: Show Comment March 28, 2020 at 3:46 pm GMT
@AKAHorace Not a chance. Joe Biden represents the old Neo-liberal wing of the Democratic party. Tulsi is an anti-war progressive.

The other thing you have to consider is Joe is old and senile. It is not certain he would finish out his 4-year term if elected. The DNC will make sure they pick someone they are willing to see in power in case Joe bows out. There were paranoid rumors that it would be HRC but I don’t think this will fly with the public. Most likely a moderate woman. Kamala Harris (in a cynical bid to get the Black vote). Amy Klobuchar.

Johnwho , says: Show Comment March 29, 2020 at 8:58 am GMT
Whether Tulsi ‘had what it takes’ to ‘drain the swamp’ will never be known. The DNC made sure to take away her voice from the debates after she wiped the floor with Kamala Harris in an early debate. She got next to no publicity from the msm, but she was certainly better than any of the alternatives.
Like you, I was very disappointed when she supported Biden the war monger and fraud artist.
Ghali , says: Show Comment March 29, 2020 at 10:16 am GMT
Regarding Tulsi Gabbard, from the begining, I was (possibly) the only person who thought she was completely Fake . She is full of American B ** S “Patriotism” a.k.a. Fascism. I mean, if she is quitting politics, she should have endorsed Sanders and starves the self-promoted Zionist, warmongering, corrupt Biden of crucial votes in several progressive counties in the US.
George , says: Show Comment March 29, 2020 at 10:37 am GMT
@Anatoly Karlin Was Bernie ever a ‘real’ candidate? Black Agenda Report had doubts in 2016.

Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders: Sheepdogging for Hillary and the Democrats in 2016
https://blackagendareport.com/bernie-sanders-sheepdog-4-hillary

Medicare for All is not a popular issue with democrats.

Nevada culinary union lays into Sanders supporters after health care backlash
The powerful group said the candidate’s backers attacked it for criticizing Sanders’ “Medicare for All” proposal.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/12/bernie-sanders-nevada-culinary-union-114687

Bernie still has up to $18,772,698 of campaign funds he gets to keep with strings attached
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00000528

Tulsi Gabbard, the white man’s candidate.

What We Know About Tulsi Gabbard’s Base
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-we-know-about-tulsi-gabbards-base/

I sent some money to Gabbard and have no regrets. The American people betrayed her not the other way around. Why shouldn’t she endorse Biden, an endorsement* is a meaningless gesture, political survival is the most important thing for her. Thanks for trying Tulsi.

* In the US an endorsement only has meaning if the endorser has some sort of political machine to get a candidate elected or at least raise money. Gabbard had none except maybe veterans.

The Alarmist , says: Show Comment March 29, 2020 at 10:49 am GMT

When the DNC stole the nomination from Sanders, he did not lead a protest or run as an independent, he endorsed Hillary. I always considered him a fraud for this (and many other) reasons.

We should cut both Bernie and Tulsi some slack; when you go up against a machine whose principle actors have a documented triple-digit body-count, you either kiss the ring or sleep with the fishes.

9/11 Inside job , says: Show Comment March 29, 2020 at 11:57 am GMT
Tulsi Gabbard was a “faux” anti-war candidate , when it became known that she was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations they scrubbed her name from the site.

I recently receive an email from her where she came out in support of warmonger Joe Biden and blamed Al Qaeda for the 9/11 false flag attacks

It’s all Kabuki theater and the democratic and republican parties operate like crime families and have proven once again that they are “two wings of the same bird of prey “. The US is a pathocracy, kakistocracy, cryptocracy, plutocracy all rolled into one.

Anon [378] • Disclaimer , says: Show Comment March 29, 2020 at 12:47 pm GMT
@Anatoly Karlin 1: She is a card carrying member of CFR.

2: She owed her supporters something, not fellow traveler Bernie.

I’ve always suspected that she is run by military intelligence.

KenH , says: Show Comment March 29, 2020 at 4:19 pm GMT

Now Tulsi Gabbard is doing the same thing, which probably is a good indicator that the Democratic Party is evil and corrupt to the core

The Tulsitards will get mad at you but she exposed herself as a fraud. Biden’s been a big warmonger on the left and she endorsed him. Biden is one of the biggest assholes in the swamp and attacks and insults voters who asks him fair questions and she calls him a unifier.

If Bernie was for real then he’d run as an independent instead of cucking and endorsing Biden.

[Mar 28, 2020] Why You Should Never Watch RT -- Ever!

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... RT is more vocally in support of Russia than western media ..."
Mar 26, 2020 | russia-insider.com

As RT UK launches, attacks on the channel in the British media have stepped up

The latest is a piece by Mr. Cyril Waugh-Monger, a very important newspaper columnist for the NeoCon Daily, a patron of the Senator Joe McCarthy Appreciation Society and author of 'Why the Iraq War was a Brilliant Idea' and 'The Humanitarian Case for Bombing Syria.'

Dear socially inferior person reading this article. My name is Cyril Waugh-Monger (I'm called 'Mr Terribly Pompous Neo-Con' by my friends) and I'm here to tell you why on no account should you watch RT and why you should be making complaints to Ofcom (a British bureacracy which regulates TV) about this dreadful channel so that in the interests of 'free speech' and 'democracy' we can get it off air.

1. RT doesn't peddle Russophobia

Outrageously, RT doesn't compare Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler. It doesn't join in with the demonization of Russia and its leader. How can we have a channel which is watched by people in Britain, which doesn't do that? We neocons say that demonization of Russia and its leader is compulsory. How dare RT not do as we say!

RT is more vocally in support of Russia than western media
2. RT is sometimes rude to bankers

There's a man on RT called Max Keiser and he is often very rude to bankers. Why, he has even called for them to face the death penalty. Such disrespect to our financial elites is shocking and should not be allowed in a free society.

3. Its coverage of the MH17 crash

Shockingly, RT commentators didn't rush to blame Vladimir Putin for the air disaster within seconds of the news breaking. Some even said that we should wait for the forensic evidence before any statements apportioning guilt were made. Others said that we couldn't rule out that the plane was downed by an another aircraft. This failure to come and say loud and clear "Putin personally shot down the plane with a missile he made and fired with his own hands" within minutes of the crash is clear evidence of RT's bias and why it must be taken off the air.

4. RT's 'pundits' include people who aren't neocons and 'liberal interventionists'

This is truly scandalous: RT gives airtime to people who don't support the West's policy of endless war and who opposed airstrikes on Syria last year. Why, it's even broadcast interviews with the convener of the Stop the War coalition – and has a regular weekly show fronted by George Galloway! This is unconscionable. Only people who support Western foreign policy should be allowed to express their views on international affairs on television, not 'cranks' and 'fanatics' who oppose attacking a sovereign state in the Middle East on deceitful grounds every couple of years. Why, if RT had been around in 2003, it would no doubt have given airtime to anti-war 'conspiracy theorists' who would have told viewers that Iraq had no WMDs – and claimed, fantastically – that Bush and Blair were making it all up.

5. RT provides airtime to genuine socialists and genuine conservatives

This is really terrible: RT interviews people who oppose neo-liberalism and globalization, from both the left and the right. It's given the microphone to socialists, communists, greens, and 'extremists' on the right, like Ron Paul. These people should not be allowed to express their views on television; they are 'cranks' and should be totally marginalized. Only those who support the hegemonic consensus should be allowed on TV. It's very important that in order to protect free speech and democracy, alternative opinions are not heard.

6. RT pundits have 'extremist' links

I monitor the people who appear on RT very, very closely and I can tell you that there was once a case of an RT interviewee who had a link on his website to another website which had a link to another website which had a link to another website – which denied the Holocaust and said that little green men from Mars were ruling the US.

After considerable research, I also found that another RT pundit once attended a conference where a fellow invitee had once sat at a restaurant table, a few days after another person who had actually praised Adolf Hitler, Chairman Mao, and Josef Stalin in a magazine article published in North Korea in 1962.

7. RT is anti-semitic

Ok, I've got no evidence of this, but I'll bung it in anyway as it sounds good.

8. RT has broadcast documentaries on the wars in Yugoslavia which don't blame the Serbs for everything

This is totally unacceptable.

9. RT has had 'experts' on its programs who have made some very strong criticisms of Israel

This too is totally unacceptable. Anyone with a theory or definition that differs from Western minded politicians is demonized for voicing their opinion.

10. RT pundits have often ridiculed leading American policymakers

For instance, when the US Secretary of State John Kerry said that "you just don't in the 21st century" invade another country on "completely trumped up pretext," some people on RT had the audacity to say "What about Iraq?" This lack of respect towards a leading American politician is appalling, and in a free society ought not to be allowed. The correct procedure whenever a leading US political figure speaks is to tug one's forelock.

11. RT's coverage of the conflict in Syria

In 2011-13, we had so-called 'experts' on Syria telling us on RT that some of the freedom-fighting pro-democracy rebels were actually fanatical terrorists who were guilty of committing atrocities. This was obviously a clear lie. Islamist terrorists like ISIS have only been active in Syria since 2014 and of course, it's all the fault of President Assad and Russia.

12. RT interviews lots of people whose views I do not share

It ought not to be allowed! Aren't we supposed to live in a democracy?

13. The most important reason: RT is a threat

More and more people are watching it – which is why me and my little group of neocons and 'liberal interventionists' are so worried and stepping up our attacks on the station and denigrating those people who appear on it.

The next big war is going to be much harder for us to 'sell' to the plebs, because we are no longer in control of the narrative as we were in 2003, before the Iraq war. Oh, what happy days those were!

Don't watch RT because we really don't want you to 'question more.' We want you to question less. It's much easier for us that way.

[Mar 28, 2020] Tulsi Biden's endorsement was a clear betrayal of her supporters, because Biden is a war hawk, Zionist, and a staunch neoliberal. Biden has a key figure in the shrinking of the middle class and the impoverishment of the working poor since 1980

Was Tulsi an intelligence agencies controlled candidate?
Mar 28, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kristan hinton , Mar 27 2020 21:38 utc | 48

Recall that last election wherein Tulsi stepped down from a vaunted position within the D Party Establishment to, IIRC, support Bernie. Any case, whatever it was, it was a choice which indicated a different and principled politician - in the person of Tulsi - or at least she appeared to be an individual with a few principles.

Now this Biden endorsement is decidedly unprincipled, because Biden is, without question, a warhawk, a self-proclaimed proud Zionist, and a persistent enabler of the one percent - be it "accidental" or be it brazen with forethought and full intent. Biden has a colorful history of being a key figure in the dismantlement of the middle class and the further impoverishment of the working poor.

I am disappointed in Tulsi Gabbard.

Though she'd have been torn to bits with the exposure of her association with the unusual religious cult. Makes one curious as to how she has gotten as far as she has in mainstream politics.

[Mar 26, 2020] Why You Should Never Watch RT -- Ever!

Mar 26, 2020 | russia-insider.com

As RT UK launches, attacks on the channel in the British media have stepped up

The latest is a piece by Mr. Cyril Waugh-Monger, a very important newspaper columnist for the NeoCon Daily, a patron of the Senator Joe McCarthy Appreciation Society and author of 'Why the Iraq War was a Brilliant Idea' and 'The Humanitarian Case for Bombing Syria.'

Dear socially inferior person reading this article. My name is Cyril Waugh-Monger (I'm called 'Mr Terribly Pompous Neo-Con' by my friends) and I'm here to tell you why on no account should you watch RT and why you should be making complaints to Ofcom (a British bureacracy which regulates TV) about this dreadful channel so that in the interests of 'free speech' and 'democracy' we can get it off air.

1. RT doesn't peddle Russophobia

Outrageously, RT doesn't compare Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler. It doesn't join in with the demonization of Russia and its leader. How can we have a channel which is watched by people in Britain, which doesn't do that? We neocons say that demonization of Russia and its leader is compulsory. How dare RT not do as we say!

RT is more vocally in support of Russia than western media
2. RT is sometimes rude to bankers

There's a man on RT called Max Keiser and he is often very rude to bankers. Why, he has even called for them to face the death penalty. Such disrespect to our financial elites is shocking and should not be allowed in a free society.

Former CEO of HSX Holdings/Hollywood Stock Exchange and host of RT''s 'Keiser Report' Max Keiser
3. Its coverage of the MH17 crash

Shockingly, RT commentators didn't rush to blame Vladimir Putin for the air disaster within seconds of the news breaking. Some even said that we should wait for the forensic evidence before any statements apportioning guilt were made. Others said that we couldn't rule out that the plane was downed by an another aircraft. This failure to come and say loud and clear "Putin personally shot down the plane with a missile he made and fired with his own hands" within minutes of the crash is clear evidence of RT's bias and why it must be taken off the air.

Segment of the shot down plane
4. RT's 'pundits' include people who aren't neocons and 'liberal interventionists'

This is truly scandalous: RT gives airtime to people who don't support the West's policy of endless war and who opposed airstrikes on Syria last year. Why, it's even broadcast interviews with the convener of the Stop the War coalition – and has a regular weekly show fronted by George Galloway! This is unconscionable. Only people who support Western foreign policy should be allowed to express their views on international affairs on television, not 'cranks' and 'fanatics' who oppose attacking a sovereign state in the Middle East on deceitful grounds every couple of years. Why, if RT had been around in 2003, it would no doubt have given airtime to anti-war 'conspiracy theorists' who would have told viewers that Iraq had no WMDs – and claimed, fantastically – that Bush and Blair were making it all up.

British politician, broadcaster, and writer George Galloway often speaks out against western foreign policy
5. RT provides airtime to genuine socialists and genuine conservatives

This is really terrible: RT interviews people who oppose neo-liberalism and globalization, from both the left and the right. It's given the microphone to socialists, communists, greens, and 'extremists' on the right, like Ron Paul. These people should not be allowed to express their views on television; they are 'cranks' and should be totally marginalized. Only those who support the hegemonic consensus should be allowed on TV. It's very important that in order to protect free speech and democracy, alternative opinions are not heard.

Former Republican presidential candidate, Representative Ron Paul
6. RT pundits have 'extremist' links

I monitor the people who appear on RT very, very closely and I can tell you that there was once a case of an RT interviewee who had a link on his website to another website which had a link to another website which had a link to another website – which denied the Holocaust and said that little green men from Mars were ruling the US.

After considerable research, I also found that another RT pundit once attended a conference where a fellow invitee had once sat at a restaurant table, a few days after another person who had actually praised Adolf Hitler, Chairman Mao, and Josef Stalin in a magazine article published in North Korea in 1962.

7. RT is anti-semitic

Ok, I've got no evidence of this, but I'll bung it in anyway as it sounds good.

8. RT has broadcast documentaries on the wars in Yugoslavia which don't blame the Serbs for everything

This is totally unacceptable.

An elderly woman carries her belongings November 22 in Sarajevo's war shattered airport settlement. (Reuters)
9. RT has had 'experts' on its programs who have made some very strong criticisms of Israel

This too is totally unacceptable. Anyone with a theory or definition that differs from Western minded politicians is demonized for voicing their opinion.

Israel's annexed Golan Heights is hosting pop up hospitals to tend to ISIS fighters
10. RT pundits have often ridiculed leading American policymakers

For instance, when the US Secretary of State John Kerry said that "you just don't in the 21st century" invade another country on "completely trumped up pretext," some people on RT had the audacity to say "What about Iraq?" This lack of respect towards a leading American politician is appalling, and in a free society ought not to be allowed. The correct procedure whenever a leading US political figure speaks is to tug one's forelock.

11. RT's coverage of the conflict in Syria

In 2011-13, we had so-called 'experts' on Syria telling us on RT that some of the freedom-fighting pro-democracy rebels were actually fanatical terrorists who were guilty of committing atrocities. This was obviously a clear lie. Islamist terrorists like ISIS have only been active in Syria since 2014 and of course, it's all the fault of President Assad and Russia.

Intense shelling destroys buildings in the Damascus suburb of Jobar October 28
12. RT interviews lots of people whose views I do not share

It ought not to be allowed! Aren't we supposed to live in a democracy?

13. The most important reason: RT is a threat

More and more people are watching it – which is why me and my little group of neocons and 'liberal interventionists' are so worried and stepping up our attacks on the station and denigrating those people who appear on it.

The next big war is going to be much harder for us to 'sell' to the plebs, because we are no longer in control of the narrative as we were in 2003, before the Iraq war. Oh, what happy days those were!

Don't watch RT because we really don't want you to 'question more.' We want you to question less. It's much easier for us that way.


Source: RT

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Imagine if the congress approved a measure to form a public-private partnership between the US Treasury and the Federal Reserve. Can you imagine that?

Now imagine if a panicky and ill-informed Congress gave the Fed a blank check to bail out all of its crooked crony corporate and Wall Street friends, allowing the Fed to provide more than $4.5 trillion to underwater corporations that ripped off Mom and Pop investors by selling them bonds that were used to goose their stock prices so fatcat CEOs could make off like bandits. Imagine if all that red ink from private actors was piled onto the national debt pushing long-term interest rates into the stratosphere while crushing small businesses, households and ordinary working people.

Now try to imagine the impact this would have on the nation's future. Imagine if the Central Bank was given the green-light to devour the Treasury, control the country's "purse strings", and use nation's taxing authority to shore up its trillions in ultra-risky leveraged bets, its opaque financially-engineered ponzi-instruments, and its massive speculative debts that have gone pear-shaped leaving a gaping black hole on its balance sheet?

Well, you won't have to imagine this scenario for much longer, because the reality is nearly at hand. You see, the traitorous, dumbshit nincompoops in Congress are just a hairs-breadth away from abdicating congress's crucial power of the purse, which is not only their greatest strength, but also allows the congress to reign in abuses of executive power by controlling the flow of funding. The power of the purse is the supreme power of government which is why the founders entrusted it to the people's elected representatives in congress. Now these imbeciles are deciding whether to hand over that authority to a privately-owned banking cartel that has greatly expanded the chasm between rich and poor, incentivized destructive speculation on an industrial scale, and repeatedly inflated behemoth asset-price bubbles that have inevitably blown up sending stocks and the real economy into freefall. The idea of merging the Fed and the Treasury first appeared in its raw form in an article by former Fed chairman Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen in the Financial Times. Here's a short excerpt from the piece:

"The Fed could ask Congress for the authority to buy limited amounts of investment-grade corporate debt The Fed's intervention could help restart that part of the corporate debt market, which is under significant stress. Such a programme would have to be carefully calibrated to minimize the credit risk taken by the Fed while still providing needed liquidity to an essential market." ( Financial Times )

The Fed is not allowed to buy corporate debt, because it is not within its mandate of "price stability and full employment". It's also not allowed to arbitrarily intervene in the markets to pick winners and losers, nor is it allowed to bailout poorly-managed crybaby corporations who were gaming the system to their own advantage when the whole deal blew up in their faces. That's their problem, not the Fed's and not the American taxpayer's.

But notice how Bernanke emphasizes how "Such a programme would have to be carefully calibrated to minimize the credit risk taken by the Fed". Why do you think he said that?

He said it because he anticipates an arrangement where the new Treasury-Fed combo could buy up to "$4.5 trillion of corporate debt" (according to Marketwatch and BofA). And the way this will work, is the Fed will select the bonds that will be purchased and the credit risk will be heaped onto the US Treasury. Apparently Bernanke and Yellen think this is a "fair" arrangement, but others might differ on that point.

Keep in mind, that in the last week alone, investors pulled a record $107 billion out of corporate bonds which is a market which has been in a deep-freeze for nearly a month. The only activity is the steady surge of redemptions by frantic investors who want to get their money back before the listing ship heads for Davey Jones locker. This is the market that Bernanke wants the American people to bail out mainly because he doesn't want to submerge the Fed's balance sheet in red ink. He wants to find a sucker who will take the loss instead. That's where Uncle Sam comes in, he's the target of this subterfuge. This same theme pops up in a piece in the Wall Street Journal. Check it out:

"At least Treasury has come around to realizing it needs a facility to provide liquidity for companies. But as we write this, Mr. Mnuchin was still insisting that Treasury have control of most of the money to be able to ladle out directly to companies it wants to help. This is a recipe for picking winners and losers, and thus for bitter political fights and months of ugly headlines charging favoritism. The far better answer is for Treasury to use money from Congress to replenish the Exchange Stabilization Fund to back the Fed in creating a facility or special-purpose vehicles under Section 13(3) to lend the money to all comers. "( "Leaderless on the Econom" , Wall Street Journal)

I can hardly believe the author is bold enough to say this right to our faces. Read it carefully: They are saying "We want your money, but not your advice. The Fed will choose who gets the cash and who doesn't. Just put your trillions on the counter and get the hell out."

Isn't that what they're saying? Of course it is. And the rest of the article is even more arrogant:

"The Fed can charge a non-concessionary rate, but the vehicles should be open to those who think they need the money, not merely to those Treasury decides are worthy." (Huh? So the Treasury should have no say so in who gets taxpayer money??) The looming liquidity crisis is simply too great for that kind of bureaucratic, politicized decision-making. (Wall Street Journal)

Get it? In other words, the folks at Treasury are just too stupid or too prejudiced to understand the subtleties of a bigass bailout like this. Is that arrogance or what?

This is the contempt these people have for you and me and everyone else who isn't a part of their elitist gaggle of reprobates. Here's a clip from another article at the WSJ that helps to show how the financial media is pushing this gigantic handout to corporate America:.

"The Federal Reserve, Treasury Department and banking regulators deserve congratulations for their bold, necessary actions to provide liquidity to the U.S. financial system amid the coronavirus crisis. But more remains to be done. We thus recommend: (1) immediate congressional action . to authorize the Treasury to use the Exchange Stabilization Fund to guarantee prime money-market funds, (2) regulatory action to effect temporary reductions in bank capital and liquidity requirements (NOTE–So now the banks don't need to hold capital against their loans?) .. additional Fed lending to banks and nonbanks .(Note -by "nonbanks", does the author mean underwater hedge funds?)

We recommend that the Fed take further actions as lender of last resort. First, it should re-establish the Term Auction Facility, used in the 2008 crisis, allowing depository institutions to borrow against a broad range of collateral at an auction price (Note–They want to drop the requirement for good Triple A collateral.) Second, it should consider further exercising its Section 13(3) authority to provide additional liquidity to nonbanks, potentially including purchases of corporate debt through a special-purpose vehicle" ( "Do More to Avert a Liquidity Crisis" , Wall Street Journal )

This isn't a bailout, it's a joke, and there's no way Congress should approve these measures, particularly the merging of the US Treasury with the cutthroat Fed. That's a prescription for disaster! The Fed needs to be abolished not embraced as a state institution. It's madness!

And look how the author wants to set up an special-purpose vehicle (SPV) so the accounting chicanery can be kept off the books which means the public won't know how much money is being flushed down the toilet trying to resuscitate these insolvent corporations whose executives are still living high on the hog on the money they stole from credulous investors. This whole scam stinks to high heaven!

Meanwhile America's working people will get a whopping $1,000 bucks to tide them over until the debts pile up to the rafters and they're forced to rob the neighborhood 7-11 to feed the kids. How fair is that?

And don't kid yourself: This isn't a bailout, it's the elitist's political agenda aimed at creating a permanent underclass who'll work for peanuts just to eek out a living.

Welcome to Sweatshop Amerika!


anachronism , says: Show Comment March 23, 2020 at 5:03 am GMT

In 2008-2009, the Federal Reserve bailed out the global banking system to the tune of $16 Trillion. But American citizens were left to pay usurious rates of interest on $1 Trillion of credit card debt. And American students had lost years of economic opportunity but their $1 Trillion dollars of debt could not be discharged through bankruptcy.

This time the banks should stand behind the debtors at the government troth.

anachronism , says: Show Comment March 23, 2020 at 5:06 am GMT
It's hard to understand how holiday cruise shipping can be regarded as an essential business.

It is almost as hard to understand why a "Globalist Enterprise" should be spared its fate through the generosity of of one country. Even harder to understand, why would that one country should bail out a business, which had employed both tax-avoidance schemes as well as strategy import substitution and foreign investment to improve its profits at the expense of that country.

Nationalism is better that globalism. The current crisis was not caused by globalism; but globalism has drained from our country the means to respond to the crisis with the medicines and equipment that would reduce its severity.

Not a single cent of government aid should go toward a person or an entity outside the United States and it territories. Conditions should be placed upon such aid, so that the companies receiving it, must domesticate their supply chains, and must produce and develop their products within the United States.

Kim , says: Show Comment March 23, 2020 at 5:38 am GMT
@anachronism Make the universities discharge the student debt. It was their scam all along. They can begin by retrenching their schools of the humanities and at least halving their administrative staff. And end building and sports programs. The fat hangs heavy on that particular pig.
anachronism , says: Show Comment March 23, 2020 at 7:19 am GMT
@Kim I agree with you up to a point.

The student and the university should share responsibility equally. In the future, the institution should be made a co-signor on any student loan; and the obligation to repay the loan should be joint and several for both the institution and the student.

Bankruptcy provides the ex-student with the chance to start over and to escape the burden; but not without consequences. This will discourage the ex-student, who is doing well financially and has the means to service the debt, from just walking away.

[Mar 22, 2020] Tulsi on Jimmy Dore show: my mission is to stop these regime change wars that's why I support war criminal Joe Biden.

Mar 22, 2020 | www.youtube.com


MiDikGon Lapitise , 23 minutes ago

Jimmy look like a boy in middle school when his girlfriend breaks up with him but she says we can still be friends

Kay Paden , 1 hour ago

Tulsi on mask shortage-"It's hard to imagine how this could be happening in America." Really? You're surprised the corrupt two-party that you insist we choose between got us here?

Ouu Baaa , 1 hour ago

Andrew Yang just admitted that he endorsed Biden cause he got offered a position in his cabinet should Biden become president. Tulsi of course would never do that XD .

Nicolas Cooper , 2 hours ago

Meryl Streep should give Tulsi an award for Best Actress.

Kim Young , 3 hours ago

And she thinks endorsing Joe is going to help climate change?

Alpa Cino , 2 hours ago

What a fraud 😂

Citizen Harrison , 2 hours ago

20:13 "and that's a decision motivated by.." POVERTY. They use the poor to fight in these goddamn wars.

Wolfking Of SI , 3 hours ago (edited)

Tulsi just admit that "your party" is corrupt horse plop. You should have left and started a 3rd party.

Remy Williams , 2 hours ago

I wonder how strong the Progressive movement would've been if careerists like Gabbard and Warren stayed away and the front was unified from the beginning.

Guy Smiley , 1 hour ago

When Jimmy started his live video the day she announced supporting Biden, I said to myself "I bet anything he blames Bernie for her dropping out and supporting Biden." Low and behold, he did.

Alice Wonderland , 4 hours ago

"How and where my best. . . (interests lay). Freudian slip.

Leo Fain , 1 hour ago

First Yang and now Tulsi this is heartbreaking all of them are fake af

Armand Raynal , 3 hours ago

6:56 "which is something I always said I would do btw, that I would support the eventual democratic nominee" Am I living in a parallel dimension? The primary is not finished yet, you can still endorse Biden when it will be over if he wins the primary but endorse Bernie for the moment. Is it that hard? Ho right, I forgot, the primary is rigged and we all know that Biden the senile kid diddler and liar will be the nominee one way or another. Fucked up, but she's not helping. She probably knows she'll be kicked out of politics if she does not endorse biden and cares more about her career than doing the right thing.

Norris Hude , 1 hour ago

War is ingrained into US society, "Thankyou for your service" says it all. Heroes in America are obviously those who go to war at the behest of the zionists and the corporations.

David Richardson , 1 minute ago

"I don't play the political game" Next sentence "I'm pragmatic"

Amparo Zarza Cardoso , 25 minutes ago

Two words to Gabbard: incongruent and liar

Charles Wilson , 8 minutes ago (edited)

"The scope of the effects of this are difficult to comprehend at this time..." This is truly amazing that someone in the government has the audacity to blame a virus for people's inability to "make rent" when it was them that created the current hysteria and panic. There is a pandemic. I agree. But so far counting all of the cases that we know about, it is no where even close to the season flue that we see every year! And the government is shutting down businesses! It is a shame that they are using the current situation to further the idea that people are dependent on the government to survive! How far we as a nation and a people have fallen from the ideals that created this nation in the first place! I am disgusted!

Eric Zvonchenko , 2 hours ago

Biden is not the Democratic nominee. She is supporting Biden over Sanders not Biden over trump.

Hermann G Lippe , 2 hours ago

Like Bernie, Tulsi is just another TWO FACED Globalist Presstitute. Tulsi says her platform is to stop regime change and bring are troops home! Why does she then endorse Biden who supports regime change and keeping troops in the middle east? Tulsi says she does this to defeat Trump but Trump campaigned to stop regime change and bring are troops home!

[Mar 22, 2020] What Tulsi Gabbard Did For Us by Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Tulsi betrayed her supporters by endorsing Biden. She essentially unconditionally capitulated tot he neocon wing of the Dems. In this sense she proved to a be a turncoat. To me, she's a sell-out. her campaign filled with military-based patriotism, flag-waving, and pledge-of-allegiance rah rah USA cheerleading. It gave me the creeps, quite frankly.
Is happening during a time when Trump has the bullhorn everyday during a financial crisis and a terrifying pandemic while Joe has abdicated his role as the presumptive Democratic nominee to counter the Presidents narrative and reassure the American people . The optics are bizarre and politically unsustainable. Into to this growing narrative, the principled Tulsi ends her campaign and endorses who? The missing Joe. The timing of her endorsement is peculiar indeed.
Blackagendareport.com suggested that she was a sheepdog all along. She endorsed neoliberal warmonger responsible for a couple of imperial war because Biden has a good heart!
Also was she threatened or coerced in any way? Because earlier in the vid she certainly implies there was no way she could fight the DNC's version of City Hall.
Mar 22, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
The first time I saw Tulsi Gabbard in action was during a 2018 House Veteran' Affairs Health subcommitee hearing on Capitol Hill. She she was going up one side of a bland-faced Veterans Affairs (VA) representative and down the other for stalling on burn pits help for sick veterans. My head jerked up as I was banging out notes on my laptop. Up until then it had been the usual staid affair -- VA bureaucrats mewling the same old pablum about tasks forces and blue ribbon studies -- meanwhile an untold number of vets had been exposed to toxins from the burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan, and had been warning of irrevocable health effects, even dying, since 2007. Then the air in the packed hearing room started to crackle. We don't want to hear about your studies, the Democratic Congresswoman from Hawaii said, her voice piercing the room. We want action.

I scrambled to Google her. This young, capable congresswoman cutting straight through the bullshit was an Iraq War veteran! No wonder. As a journalist covering the swamp since 1999 it was easy to fall into jaded complacency about partisan politicians grandstanding on their hobby horses with no longterm interest in fixing anything. But recent veterans who had become members of Congress seemed to address their new roles like they would a tactical mission. In her case, it was veterans' health, and there was nothing inauthentic in how she was approaching the witnesses in front of her, or the issue at hand.

In the intervening years she became known as a non-interventionist and independent thinker who was skeptical of her own party's embrace of the national security status quo and the military industrial complex. By the time she launched her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination and started talking about ending endless "regime change wars" on the debate stage, the Washington skeptics and non-interventionists on the Right, particularly at this magazine, had already taken notice. TAC writers like Scott Ritter and Daniel Larison became a vanguard here against the establishment's spiteful and petty fusillade over her diplomatic visit to Bashar Assad, her deviation from the party's talking points on Russia, and even Trump.

Yet when she delivered the K.O. against Kamala Harris in the second Democratic debate, cooly pointing out the California Senator's hypocrisy on criminal justice, it was the most satisfying moment up until then or since. If forced to watch every single moment of every single debate this season it would be worth every second just to see Gabbard make Harris twist in the wind and eventually deflate her candidacy with that one brilliant stroke. Ditto for her later take-down of Pete Buttigieg, a candidate using his veteran status in a completely different way, as TAC's Gil Barndollar (also a recent vet) points out . This was the steely focus and yes, righteousness, that I saw in that House hearing room in 2018, and served her well on the stage among her political adversaries, who didn't care that she checked all the boxes (a woman of color, the first Samoan-American and Hindu to run for president). She was "not of the body" when it came to the party line. She would never belong.

It served her well when she called out Madame Hillary, though that likely brought the death knell to her hopes for the Democratic nod. If she hadn't drawn the full force of the bee hive before, attacking the Queen Bee proved fatal. She left the race officially today having performed well off-the-radar in the early and recent primaries. But unlike many of the puppets who called themselves candidates in this dreary Democratic display, Gabbard leaves with her pride, her integrity, and her independence intact. Some may balk at her endorsement of Biden, a man who voted for the war that she despises, who serves as a symbol of the partisan corruption she had pledged to overcome. She has her reasons. We just hope she won't fade away, as she won't be running for re-election in the fall.

What has she left us? Proof that there are politicians who make "transpartisan" seem real and worthy, and not just another faddish concept to be abused for political gain. She leaves us with the sense that not all pols are in it for the power, but for weightier goals, like veterans' health, and bringing an end to an entrenched, hubristic foreign policy that sends young men and women like Gabbard into wars we cannot win. She was the only one to bring a personal and unyielding take on that to the debate stage and into our living rooms, and for that, we should be grateful.

Kelley Beaucar Vlahos, executive editor, has been writing for TAC for the last decade, focusing on national security, foreign policy, civil liberties and domestic politics. She served for 15 years as a Washington bureau reporter for FoxNews.com, and at WTOP News in Washington from 2013-2017 as a writer, digital editor and social media strategist. She has also worked as a beat reporter at Bridge News financial wire (now part of Reuters) and Homeland Security Today, and as a regular contributor at Antiwar.com. A native Nutmegger, she got her start in Connecticut newspapers, but now resides with her family in Arlington, Va.


ParkerPolhill 3 days ago

Her statement endorsing Biden proves all this about propaganda about her being "trans partisan" whatever that means, and not out for personal power are false. Gabbard clearly still wants a future career connected to the Democratic establishment.
Null ParkerPolhill 3 days ago • edited
I hate to discount ambition as a motive for any politician, but an old-fashioned antiwar Dem could still prefer Biden to Trump for economic reasons.
dragnet20 3 days ago
Tulsi destroyed Kamala Harris' campaign and gave the antiwar movement a voice in the Democratic primary. She never had a chance in hell of being the nominee, but she played a weak hand with wits, courage and a strong heart. In a better party--country--she'd be one of the top tier candidates.

Instead she'll have to settle for being a hero to folks like me.

cka2nd Collin Reid 3 days ago
The Daily Kos crowd hated her guts ("Fake social liberal! Dictator lover! Trump appeaser!") and aggressively raised funds for her primary opponent, so I'm not sure her House seat was all that safe for her anymore.

Reagan's criticism of Carter's Panama Canal Treaty got him a rebuke from the Duke himself. John Wayne wrote a letter to Reagan calling him a liar over his criticism of the treaty. Not sure how the spat became public, but that was one of the first things that started warming my heart towards Wayne.

She probably should have dropped out after New Hampshire and endorsed Sanders. Frankly, Sanders should have been working behind the scenes to get a joint Yang/Gabbard endorsement before or after Nevada. Not that she is well known outside of academic or feminist circles, but rolling up their endorsement with that of black feminist Barbara Smith before South Carolina might have blunted the Pete/Amy/Beto bit of political theater for Biden a little bit, if not the Clyburn endorsement.

Collin Reid cka2nd 2 days ago
1) Tulsi started going off the rails halfway through primary and her position on gay rights was going to be a problem for liberal attacks along with her continued defending Assad in general. (We should stay out of Syria years ago but Assad is terrible.)

2) I suspect it helped Reagan in 1980 with criticism of Carter's Panama Canal Treaty with most voters. Yea he took some flack for it but it helped Reagan criticizing Carter's foreign policy weakness.

3) I see Sanders problem closer to Matt Yglesias view that Sanders had 30 - 35% of the Party voters and needed to do more to win the other 65%. He was over estimated his WWC support from 2016 (as opposed to anti-HRC vote when Primary was practically over) and Sanders was going to have problems with candidate winnowing.

And Sanders really failed to gain support from Southern African-American voters who led Biden's comeback.

ZizaNiam Collin Reid 2 days ago • edited
Assad MAY be terrible to ISIS sympathizers, but he also doesn't support the genocide of Syria's Christian,Shia,Ismaili,Druze and Alawite minorities. The genocidal al-Qaeda/ISIS affiliates have ravaged Syria's minority populations while getting support from Israel. Whenever AQ/ISIS are getting overrun by the Christian-led Syrian Arab Army, Israel is always there to provide air support to Al Qaeda and ISIS. Tulsi, of course is a big supporter of Israel and does not address Israel's role in the war against Syria's minority populations. She is comfortable with her hypocritical stance.
cka2nd Collin Reid 2 days ago
I don't remember Gabbard ever "defending" Assad politically or personally. At most, I thought she expressed support for his government in its military conflict with ISIS and the Al-Nusra Front.

Don't disagree with you about Sanders. I do believe he was the strongest general election candidate, but the majority of the Democratic electorate has clearly moved back to the center and a desire for continuity with the Clinton/Obama/Biden past, which is utter foolishness and stupidity on their part.

Fran Macadam 3 days ago
I don't need to know anything more than she endorsed establishment Joe over the Hill Biden, the warmonger's warmonger. None of their professional pols are ever going to do anything but cave to the swamp of the status quo. Oligarchy Uber Alles. She just nailed the lid shut on her supposed integrity. Hey, Bernie's next.

And coronavirus is of no matter, except to use as an excuse to get Donald Trump, who really did call out and try to stop some wars, to no avail. History is full of lying politicians who got elected by promising to keep us out of wars, then started them as soon as the votes were counted.

ChiefBloviator 2 days ago
Gabbard is the most exciting politician in a generation imo. She is consistently highly strategic in her moves, and kept her antiwar platform in the public eye on a tiny budget as far as was feasible while the caucus season still had life and attention. It is clear the corporate Dems are firmly in control and have cleverly manouvered Biden to be the face of the DNC. With that scenario and likely no convention or media for the next few months it was smart, as the only life long Democrat in the field, to 'support' Biden (confounding the brainwashed Russia/Syria/India conspiracy theorists) as the candidate, just as she vowed to do at the start of her campaign.
The battle is over. the corporate Dems won, but will likely lose the war to Trump in November. It's possible the entire aged field of political operatives that control the 'beehive' will be history by this time next year, and as the DNC begins to reform, root out venal corruption and reconstitute Gabbard's star may well rise again.
The other distinct possibility is that the oligarch Bloomberg will replace Mrs Clinton as the majordomo of the DNC and with his Hawkfish Cambridge Analytica style machine will steamroller some sort of quasi fascist party into power post Covid19 low key (I hope) martial law. Bloomberg was clever to inject 44 million - pocket lint in his 55 billion - just before super Tuesday to destroy Sanders the strawman social democrat while standing down other corporate puppet candidates.
I hope Gabbard doesn't become a TV bobblehead like Yang. That would be dispiriting.
Peace.
Sky Rudd 2 days ago
nice article but the title is misleading. What she actually did was give a voice to the voiceless, and changed the dialogue in America regarding foreign policy and interventionalist wars. The way our leaders think about "regime change" wars has shifted greatly in part because of the efforts of Tulsi Gabbard. Her continuing to highlight the extremely crucial areas of corruption and misgovernance that are ruining our country is what she has, is, and will continue to do for us.
esquimaux a day ago
This puff piece won't do. Tulsi has chosen to stay with a gang that has no use for her. "She has her reasons" for endorsing Biden. Folks have their reasons for doing a lot of things. Tulsi could have dispensed with this nonsense of a Presidential run and been the leader of a movement that would have posed a challenge to these failing and merging political parties. She may be inspiring on a personal level but, in the immortal words of The Four Tops, "It's the same old song, just a different feeling since you been gone."
Peter a day ago • edited
I was sad to see so many hit pieces this past year portraying Tulsi as some sort of Trump appeaser or traitor who would meet with Assad etc. As a peacemaker, she stood very little chance in the 2020 race. As a female Hindu surfer war veteran peacenik who could sing John Lennon songs with her partner, she was so strikingly unique that people didn't have a box to put her in. With veteran health being one of her primary concerns, she would have been ideal for the age of Corona virus. I can't imagine her disbanding the pandemic response team two years before the worst pandemic in 500 years! Thank you Kelly Vlahos for paying tribute to this remarkable leader. Let's hope Tulsi is far from finished. 2020 is going to be a year when America is taken out to the woodshed and taught a humbling lesson about mortality, the frailty of life and the need to respect the whole planet. Tulsi might be just the person to lead the country as it rises up from the ashes.
Rhs Per Peter 11 hours ago • edited
As a female Hindu surfer war veteran peacenik


Sounds quite innocuous, even virtuous, right? Except, you do not mention she is also a supporter of Hindoo Fascism/Nationalism, as a supporter of the fascist Indian organisation called RSS. Just recently she tried to whitewash the muslim genocide (even if small level this time) in New Delhi, with her dissembling about some self-perceived "Hinduphobia."

I suppose, as long as it does not affect whites and christians and westerners, her hindoo fascism is of little consequence to you? Let them "moozlims" worry about such things, yeah?

[Mar 22, 2020] Those disbursements to wage earners are vital for the social cohesion to remain in place. I thought Tulsi Gabbard championing that minimum basic income strategy was essential as well.

Notable quotes:
"... I empathies totally with USians that are trapped in the vulgar exploitative nightmare of the usury in that country ..."
Mar 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Mar 22 2020 10:02 utc | 126

chu teh #103

Those disbursements to wage earners are vital for the social cohesion to remain in place. I thought Tulsi Gabbard championing that minimum basic income strategy was essential as well.

I empathies totally with USians that are trapped in the vulgar exploitative nightmare of the usury in that country . Debt Jubilee for all under $100,000 income would be a start. But that might create a vulgar backlash as well.

The naked ferocity of capitalism in the USA is truly a fearsome thing.

[Mar 22, 2020] Opinion - A Tale of Two Foreign Policies The Train-Wreck Abroad Is Bipartisan by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... It is widely believed that the abrupt withdrawal of candidates Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg on the eve of Super Tuesday that targeted Sanders was arranged through an intervention by ex-President Barack Obama who made a plea in support of "party unity," offering the two a significant quid pro quo down the road if they were willing to leave the race and throw their support to Biden, which they dutifully did ..."
"... Trump might be described as both paranoid and narcissistic, meaning that he sees himself as surrounded by enemies and that the enemies are out to get him personally. When he is criticized, he either ridicules the source or does something impulsive to deflect what is being said. He attacked Syria twice based on false claims about the use of chemical weapons when a consensus developed in the media and in congress that he was being "weak" in the Middle East. Those attacks were war crimes as Syria was not threatening the United States. ..."
"... Biden is on a different track in that he is an establishment hawk. As head of the Senate Foreign Affairs committee back in 2002-2003 he green lighted George W. Bush's plan to attack Iraq. Beyond that, he cheer-leaded the effort from the Democratic Party benches, helping to create a consensus both in Washington and in the media that Saddam Hussein was a threat that had to be dealt with. He should have known better as he was privy to intelligence that was suggesting that the Iraqis were no threat at all. He did not moderate his tune on Iraq until after 2005, when the expected slam-dunk quick victory got very messy. ..."
"... Biden was also certainly privy to the decision making by President Barack Obama, which include the destruction of Libya and the killing of American citizens by drone. Whether he actively supported those policies is unknown, but he has never been challenged on them. What is clear is that he did not object to them, another sign of his willingness to go along with the establishment, a tendency which will undoubtedly continue if he is elected president. ..."
Mar 22, 2020 | www.informationclearinghouse.info

Now that the Democratic Party has apparently succeeded in getting rid of the only two voices among its presidential candidates that actually deviated from the establishment consensus, it appears that Joe Biden will be running against Donald Trump in November. To be sure, Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard are still hanging on, but the fix was in and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) made sure that Sanders would be given the death blow on Super Tuesday while Gabbard would be blocked from participating in any of the late term debates.

It is widely believed that the abrupt withdrawal of candidates Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg on the eve of Super Tuesday that targeted Sanders was arranged through an intervention by ex-President Barack Obama who made a plea in support of "party unity," offering the two a significant quid pro quo down the road if they were willing to leave the race and throw their support to Biden, which they dutifully did. Rumor has it that Klobuchar might well wind up as Biden's vice president. An alternative tale is that it was a much more threatening "offer that couldn't be refused" coming from the Clintons.

... ... ...

Both Trump and Biden might reasonably described as Zionists, Trump by virtue of the made-in-Israel foreign policy positions he has delivered on since his election, and Biden by word and deed during his entire time in politics. When Biden encountered Sarah Palin in 2008 in the vice-presidential debate, he and Palin sought to outdo each other in enthusing over how much they love the Jewish state. Biden has said that "I am a Zionist. You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist" and also, ridiculously, "Were there not an Israel, the U.S. would have to invent one. We will never abandon Israel -- out of our own self-interest. [It] is the best $3 billion investment we make." Biden has been a regular feature speaker at the annual AIPAC summit in Washington.

Trump might be described as both paranoid and narcissistic, meaning that he sees himself as surrounded by enemies and that the enemies are out to get him personally. When he is criticized, he either ridicules the source or does something impulsive to deflect what is being said. He attacked Syria twice based on false claims about the use of chemical weapons when a consensus developed in the media and in congress that he was being "weak" in the Middle East. Those attacks were war crimes as Syria was not threatening the United States.

Trump similarly reversed himself on withdrawing from Syria when he ran into criticism of the move and his plan to extricate the United States from Afghanistan, if it develops at all, could easily be subjected to similar revision. Trump is not really the man who as a candidate indicated that he was seriously looking for a way out of America's endless and pointless wars, no matter what his supporters continue to assert.

Biden is on a different track in that he is an establishment hawk. As head of the Senate Foreign Affairs committee back in 2002-2003 he green lighted George W. Bush's plan to attack Iraq. Beyond that, he cheer-leaded the effort from the Democratic Party benches, helping to create a consensus both in Washington and in the media that Saddam Hussein was a threat that had to be dealt with. He should have known better as he was privy to intelligence that was suggesting that the Iraqis were no threat at all. He did not moderate his tune on Iraq until after 2005, when the expected slam-dunk quick victory got very messy.

Biden was also certainly privy to the decision making by President Barack Obama, which include the destruction of Libya and the killing of American citizens by drone. Whether he actively supported those policies is unknown, but he has never been challenged on them. What is clear is that he did not object to them, another sign of his willingness to go along with the establishment, a tendency which will undoubtedly continue if he is elected president.

And Biden's foreign policy reminiscences are is subject to what appear to be memory losses or inability to articulate, illustrated by a whole series of faux pas during the campaign. He has a number of times told a tale of his heroism in Afghanistan that is complete fiction , similar to Hillary Clinton's lying claims of courage under fire in Bosnia.

So, we have a president in place who takes foreign policy personally in that his first thoughts are "how does it make me look?" and a prospective challenger who appears to be suffering from initial stages of dementia and who has always been relied upon to support the establishment line, whatever it might be. Though Trump is the more dangerous of the two as he is both unpredictable and irrational, the likelihood is that Biden will be guided by the Clintons and Obamas. To put it another way, no matter who is president the likelihood that the United States will change direction to get away from its interventionism and bullying on a global scale is virtually nonexistent. At least until the money runs out. Or to express it as a friend of mine does, "No matter who is elected we Americans wind up getting John McCain." Goodnight America!

Philip Giraldi Ph.D., Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest. A former CIA Case Officer and Army Intelligence Officer who spent twenty years overseas in Europe and the Middle East working terrorism cases. He holds a BA with honors from the University of Chicago and an MA and PhD in Modern History from the University of London. " Source "

[Mar 21, 2020] Tulsi's endorsement of Biden suggests that she's as keen to see the Dems eviscerated as I am.

Mar 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Hoarsewhisperer , Mar 20 2020 13:42 utc | 2

Tulsi's endorsement of Biden suggests that she's as keen to see the Dems eviscerated as I am.

Hell hath no fury...?

[Mar 21, 2020] If Gabbard is angling for the VP position as Biden mentioned he's looking for a woman as a running mate she better hope Biden remember what he said

Mar 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Ian2 , Mar 21 2020 21:26 utc | 32

Gabbard is angling for the VP position as Biden mentioned he's looking for a woman as a running mate. She better hope Biden remember what he said. I wonder what Biden's criteria for his candidates? Hmm...

[Mar 21, 2020] Tulsi Gabbard says insider traders should be 'investigated prosecuted,' as Left and Right team up on profiteering senator

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... "better prepared than ever ..."
"... "akin to the 1918 pandemic." ..."
"... "Congress/staff who dumped stocks after private briefings on impending coronavirus epidemic should be investigated and prosecuted for insider trading," ..."
"... "Members of Congress should not be allowed to own stocks." ..."
"... "stomach churning," ..."
"... "For a public servant it's pretty hard to imagine many things more immoral than doing this," ..."
"... "Richard Burr had critical information that might have helped the people he is sworn to protect. But he hid that information and helped only himself." ..."
"... "If you find out about a nation-threatening pandemic and your first move is to adjust your stock portfolio you should probably not be in a job that serves the public interest," ..."
"... "calling for immediate investigations" ..."
"... "for possible violations of the STOCK Act and insider trading laws." ..."
"... Think your friends would be interested? Share this story! ..."
Mar 21, 2020 | www.rt.com

In a rare moment of bipartisanship, commenters from all sides have demanded swift punishment for US senators who dumped stock after classified Covid-19 briefings. Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has called for criminal prosecution. As chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Richard Burr (R-North Carolina) has received daily briefings on the threat posed by Covid-19 since January. Burr insisted to the public that America was ready to handle the virus, but sold up to $1.5 million in stocks on February 13, less than a week before the stock market nosedived, according to Senate filings . Immediately before the sale, Burr wrote an op-ed assuring Americans that their government is "better prepared than ever " to handle the virus.

Also on rt.com Liberal icon Sean Penn wants a 'compassionate' army deployment to fight Covid-19

After the sale, NPR reported that he told a closed-door meeting of North Carolina business leaders that the virus actually posed a threat "akin to the 1918 pandemic." Burr does not dispute the NPR report.

In a tweet on Saturday, former 2020 presidential candidate and Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard called for criminal investigations. "Congress/staff who dumped stocks after private briefings on impending coronavirus epidemic should be investigated and prosecuted for insider trading," she wrote.

"Members of Congress should not be allowed to own stocks."

Congress/staff who dumped stocks after private briefings on impending coronavirus epidemic should be investigated & prosecuted for insider trading (the STOCK Act). It is illegal & abuse of power. Members of Congress should not be allowed to own stocks. https://t.co/rbVfJxrk3r

-- Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) March 21, 2020

Burr was not the only lawmaker on Capitol Hill to take precautions, it was reported. Fellow Intelligence Committee member Dianne Feinstein (D-California) and her husband sold off more than a million dollars of shares in a biotech company five days later, while Oklahoma's Jim Inhofe (R) made a smaller sale around the same time. Both say their sales were routine.

Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Georgia) attended a Senate Health Committee briefing on the outbreak on January 24. The very same day, she began offloading stock, dropping between $1.2 and $3.1 million in shares over the following weeks. The companies whose stock she sold included airlines, retail outlets, and Chinese tech firm Tencent.

She did, however, invest in cloud technology company Oracle, and Citrix, a teleworking company whose value has increased by nearly a third last week, as social distancing measures forced more and more Americans to work from home. All of Loeffler's transactions were made with her husband, Jeff Sprecher, CEO of the New York Stock Exchange.

Meanwhile, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (New York) and Ilhan Omar (Minnesota) have joined the clamor of voices demanding punishment. Ocasio-Cortez described the sales as "stomach churning," while Omar reached across the aisle to side with Fox News' Tucker Carlson in calling for Burr's resignation.

I am 💯 with him on this 😱 https://t.co/Gbi3i2BagY

-- Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) March 20, 2020

"For a public servant it's pretty hard to imagine many things more immoral than doing this," Carlson said during a Friday night monolog. "Richard Burr had critical information that might have helped the people he is sworn to protect. But he hid that information and helped only himself."

As of Saturday, there are nearly 25,000 cases of Covid-19 in the US, with the death toll heading towards 300. Now both sides of the political aisle seem united in disgust at the apparent profiteering of Burr, Loeffler, and Feinstein.

Right-wing news outlet Breitbart savaged Burr for voting against the STOCK Act in 2012, a piece of legislation that would have barred members of Congress from using non-public information to profit on the stock market. At the same time, a host of Democratic figures - including former presidential candidates Andrew Yang and Kirsten Gillibrand - weighed in with their own criticism too.

"If you find out about a nation-threatening pandemic and your first move is to adjust your stock portfolio you should probably not be in a job that serves the public interest," Yang tweeted on Friday.

If you find out about a nation-threatening pandemic and your first move is to adjust your stock portfolio you should probably not be in a job that serves the public interest.

-- Andrew Yang🧢 (@AndrewYang) March 20, 2020

Watchdog group Common Cause has filed complaints with the Justice Department, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Senate Ethics Committee "calling for immediate investigations" of Burr, Loeffler, Feinstein and Inhofe "for possible violations of the STOCK Act and insider trading laws."

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[Mar 21, 2020] Tucker Senator Burr sold shares after virus briefing

Highly recommended!
Mar 21, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Bowhead31 , 5 hours ago

The problem is these people no longer see themselves as public servants.

Maria Summers , 6 hours ago

The Georgia Senator is just as guilty as the rest of them, regarding "Insider Trading".

shane passey , 3 hours ago

She's a crook just like the rest of the politicians. They say they be there for the people. But they're really there to make themselves rich

[Mar 21, 2020] Don't forget our congress critter Senator Kelly Loeffler

Mar 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

@supenau

who make profits as well. I cannot remember exactly when insider trading for them became legal but it should be no surprise to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention that they're ALL doing it. That is one reason, at least in my semi-educated opinion, they did not go after Trump for emoluments during Shampeachment, because THEY ALL DO IT.

That goes all the way to the White House, no doubt.

Marie on Sat, 03/21/2020 - 10:28am

Looks as if the crisis profiteers were on top of it:

Think about this:

Weeks before you had any inkling you were going to lose your job, was selling off millions of stocks -- and *buying* stock in a teleworking company.

-- Robert Reich (@RBReich) March 20, 2020

[Mar 21, 2020] Was Tulsi yet another CIA democrat?

From comments "so that is who Tulsi endorses after talking about how bad they are? Jesus on a cracker give me and effing break, Tulsi. Hondorus, Syria and Ukraine and endorsing the regime change in Egypt. "
"[Looks like] ... blowing off her tiny support base in favor of whatever she has gotten was worth the price to her. Will have to check the next library book sale (postponed at the moment) for a cheap copy of Marlowe's Dr. Faustus or Goethe's Faust and send it to her. (She's not worth buying a new copy for.)
Mar 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Marie on Thu, 03/19/2020 - 1:47pm

Thanks for the tip

@Jen
(have no interest in viewing her video because I have an autonomic gag reflex to liars)
The comments there make me feel a bit better. Looks as if Tulsi has lost all of her supporters, funders, and voters, and they aren't coming back.

A sample:

Christopher Brunner:
Imagine basing your whole campaign on ending regime change wars and then ending it by endorsing the man who voted for the Iraq War instead of standing on her principles and endorsing the person who voted AGAINST regome change wars

Dash
Tulsi: "I will do everything I can to stop these shameful regime change wars."
Tulsi: "I now completely support one of the principle architects of America's shameful regime change wars."
Tulsi: "Why don't you all love me anymore?"

Okay, a few are saying that Sanders is weak on regime change wars, etc. True enough but he has a long track record of voting no on them when the chips are down.

[Mar 21, 2020] It is doubtful that Will Tulsi will gets some "sweets" for her betrayal of her supporters

Mar 21, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

rho , 19 March 2020 at 05:53 PM

I think it is near impossible that Biden would pick her as VP, despite this strange endorsement. The Democrat establishment and the borg fiercely oppose her, and with Biden as President and the coronavirus around, there is a real chance this time that a VP pick will have to take over power from a dead or otherwise incapacitated President.

The move does not make much sense to me except as an "I surrender, at least for this election cycle" message, I don't see Tulsi gaining any material benefit from this over endorsing Sanders. The establishment will not suddenly start to like her again because of this.

I also seriously doubt this assessment of Tulsi about Biden:

"I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people."

JerseyJeffersonian , 19 March 2020 at 06:47 PM
Disappointed, but not surprised.

But, unless something has changed of which I am not aware, Warren closed down her campaign without endorsing anyone. Why not Gabbard? Not impressed by this move.

Maybe she thinks this is, as eenginneer proposed above, playing the long game. I don't see how that works, unless abject surrender on essentials (such as the willingness to contest the war/regime change ploy amply on display with Biden & ilk) makes an impression on The Blob that she can be relied upon to do likewise if she ever is entrusted with executive powers. But infliction of such horrors as those brought about by the dismemberment of Libya are scarcely indications of Biden having a good heart (or even a foresightful nature concerning consequences).

What the US needs is an end to these abjectly stupid actions, not a new lease on life for them. So, the more I think on this, and in consideration of her previously professing a principled stand in this issue, this is a deal-breaker for me, fully as bad as Sanders' actively working for the Hildabeast's election in 2016, making me question her sincerity in general.

It is past time to put the kibosh on the imperial fantasy; stand up and be counted or slink away.

ex PFC Chuck , 19 March 2020 at 07:14 PM
Mystifying and dispiriting. Maybe "they" finally got something on her. Alternatively, did she get any sort of contentment out of Joe in return? If she did will he be able to/want to remember it come November 4? There's no chance the "organs" sector of the deep state would take Tulsi-as-Veep lying down. Or any significant foreign policy or national security position for that matter. She may think by endorsing Biden She'd at least partway move back into the good graces of the Democratic Party establishment, but that's a false hope. They'll never trust her again. If she'd kept her endorsement powder dry, even though she'd get no MSM coverage going forward (not the vanishingly small amount she got as a candidate), more than a few of the non-MSM platforms, video and otherwise, that have in some cases millions of readers and viewers, would have been happy to have her on frequently. She'll still get some of that exposure but not much. She may get some MSM stops in the next few days, but that will be it.
Leith , 19 March 2020 at 11:06 PM
Biden says: "Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line in service of this country and continues to serve with honor today. I'm grateful to have her support and look forward to working with her to restore honor and decency to the White House."

Hmm?

optimax , 19 March 2020 at 11:27 PM
Tulsi would bring in some republicans but Biden won't choose because he's a puppet of the borg and they thrive on the chaos created by our military interventions. The LSMFT community doesn't like Tulsi for the unforgivable sin of speaking out against gay marriage as a teen--she wasn't born with the progressive purity of heart. Then there's Assad. The media ignored her visit with the orthodox priest in Aleppo who after its recapture by the SAA praised Assad for saving them from the jahadis. The feminists resent Tulsi for being pretty.

All these groups prefer Lady Macbeth be the one to catch Joe when he falls.

JJackson , 20 March 2020 at 11:22 AM
I suspect the DNC and associated party grandees looked at the COVID situation and leant heavily on candidates to back the front runner, so avoiding having their supporters congregate at rallies or a brokered convention. That the front runner happened to be who they wanted to see as their candidate surely helped.
Joseph Chaisson , 20 March 2020 at 11:25 AM
I saw this morning that Tulsi's brother posted on facebook that Bernie declined her offer of endorsement...
The Twisted Genius , 20 March 2020 at 12:18 PM
Joseph Chaisson,

I saw that yesterday. I don't know who Kai Gabbard was responding to and he has since removed that Facebook comment. He also admitted he doesn't know the exact nature of his sister's relationship with Sanders. Here's his original comment.

"Thank you for your kind words sir," the comment reads. "Bernie has treated my sister like sh*t all the way through this. She has tried to endorse him again and he has refused her support. Whoever he's getting his advice from has done a terrible job."
"You go ahead keep talking about however you want, but know this. She is just going to continue being independent and keep fighting for us. Bernie isn't the man me and Tulsi once supported 100 percent. I don't know what happened to him. He's refused to take the fight to the establishment like Tulsi continues to do. Aloha to you and yours."

Who knows what happened between Bernie and Tulsi. Like I said, I was surprised she endorsed old Joe over old Bernie. She's pragmatic and independent. She has demonstrated an ability to work in a bipartisan manner without demonizing anyone. We need a lot more like her.

I'm also partial to the aloha spirit. I thoroughly enjoyed my three and a half years in Hawaii. For two of those years I spent a long weekend every month with C Company, 1/299th Infantry on Maui. I spent another year working fairly closely with the local pig hunters and pakalolo growers in the mountains surrounding my RECONDO school in the Kahuku Mountains. I experienced aloha and ohana rather than anti-haoli discrimination. If Tulsi can bring that spirit to the rest of the US, I'm all for it.

Stueeeeee , 20 March 2020 at 01:12 PM
Gabbard endorsement doesn't surprise me. Her claim to fame is that she speaks truthfully about our mideast adventures...and? Her domestic politics mirror the growing dingbat coalition. I would say that she is a poor man's Ron Paul but that wouldn't be fair to Ron.
He had the integrity not to endorse the detestable Pierre Delecto.
Jim S , 20 March 2020 at 01:34 PM
'Hairy-Legs' Joe: I'm excited to present my running mate, Tally Gourd- What? No- Gabby Ward- I mean the next Vice Governor of the United States, Wally Gizzard!

Interestingly, the CFR membership rolls contain a one Gabbard, Tulsi; no Obiden Bama, however.

[Mar 20, 2020] Such a nice Trojan Horse: How is it possible to morph from a Tulsi, to a Tulsigieg so fast??

Highly recommended!
Mar 20, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Ronald van Kemenade , 9 hours ago

After the DNC stabbing her in the back, she should have endorsed Trump.

Nate Hoffman , 11 hours ago

Great actress. Very convincing.

tim ahlf , 5 hours ago

Obama gave her a call like he did everybody else.

Rita Marie Kelley , 12 hours ago

Aloha will never be the same...

Jack Carvis , 1 hour ago

Every dem politician has a role(acting job) to play and she deserves the Oscar .

eancd , 6 hours ago

I guess they won't be calling Tulsi a Russian agent any more

State of Opportunity , 12 hours ago

She should've just endorsed Lindsey Graham.

TheNada73 , 5 hours ago

They made her an offer she can't refuse.

Bruce Liu , 3 hours ago

Tulsi is controlled opposition

[Mar 20, 2020] Lots of people are behaving as if they hadn't heard which "Party" Gabbard and Sanders were running for. They are working for the Single Party; which wing of it is irrelevant, just as irrelevant as any nuances among its different people

Tulsi was under no obligation to endorse right away even if she signed a contract agreeing to support the Nominee, besides, there is no nominee yet. Warren did not endorsed anybody yet, and Bernie is still in the race.
Mar 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
karafspolo , Mar 20 2020 13:46 utc | 3
tulsi is pro aipac, anti BDS, signed a legally binding document to be blue no matter who, and just endorsed a neoliberal war monger who launched 6 of the 8 regime change wars we are currently waging to be our next president.

THIS IS WHAT CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GATE KEEPING SHILLS DO. SHES NIKKI HALEY IN A PROGRESSIVE CLOWNSUIT.


Carciofi , Mar 20 2020 14:22 utc | 4

Waiting for what Jimmie Dore has to say about Tulsi's capitulation to the party establishment.

As for Sanders, he never had any skin in his non-campaign. Fooled a lot of people.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/sanders-capitulates-biden/5706808

Sander wasn't in the 2016 and 2020 races to change things, only to give the appearance of seeking radical change, what a grassroots revolution alone could possibly achieve.
Zanon , Mar 20 2020 14:40 utc | 5
Carciofi

Jimmie Dore seems to defend her,
https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1240886913105420288

Apparently he is as fake as Tulsi.

Piero Colombo , Mar 20 2020 15:30 utc | 11
Lots of people are behaving as if they hadn't heard which "Party" Gabbard and Sanders were running for. They are working for the Single Party; which wing of it is irrelevant, just as irrelevant as any nuances among its different people. I just don't get why the word "any" should be unclear -- to anyone.
Zanon , Mar 20 2020 17:04 utc | 18
Tulsi's brother seems to be as ignorant as Tulsi,
He claim Tulsi fought the establishment...and then support her when she goes to support the biggest establishent candidate in th race, Mr Biden.
https://nationalfile.com/report-bernie-refused-tulsis-endorsement-brother-claims-he-treated-her-like-shit/

[Mar 20, 2020] My Thoughts On Tulsi Gabbard Suspending Her Campaign And Endorsing Joe Biden

Notable quotes:
"... By supporting a warhawk, she is literally a traitor. ..."
Mar 20, 2020 | www.youtube.com

mocki rangne , 12 hours ago

"In the US, there is basically one party - the business party. It has two factions, called Democrats and Republicans, which are somewhat different but carry out variations on the same policies...Noam Chomsky

jewelryby NaLa , 11 hours ago

Tulsi just proved who she really is.

Rubbles R , 12 hours ago

Henceforth, Tulsi can take her "Aloha" BS and shove it.

horium , 6 hours ago

I'm confident that he will lead our country in the spirit of Zionism and the military industrial complex.

S. Mesut , 11 hours ago

Everyone ready for Hillary 2.0 ? Here it comes in the form of Biden.

L Ngu , 10 hours ago

Tulsi, another charlatan

Emmett S. , 11 hours ago

By supporting a warhawk, she is literally a traitor. ALL this talk of being against the wars and "my brothers and sisters" all total bs because she was offered a golden ticket. Efffffff her.

violoncelo1000 , 10 hours ago (edited)

How is it possible to morph from a Tulsi, to a Tulsigieg so fast?? How can she lie with that straight face, and say Biden has a " good heart "??? I will never, ever trust her again. Democratic Party uses corrupt people without a backbone, and rigged electronic vote machines.

RoB4f * , 11 hours ago

She's a CFR puppet as well...they all are

jeff murray , 12 hours ago

So, she is another Warren. She didn't really believe what she was saying, she just saw an opportunity to become known/gain power by surfing the progressive wave with a plan to leverage that notoriety/support.

armaggedonsblade , 58 minutes ago

You hilarious. And i thought you are smart. 🙁 Voting for any of the imbecils from the Democratic party is just sad

Koen Dove , 10 hours ago

Democrats, democrats...it's an empty word

Bill Walden , 6 hours ago

Meet the new Tulsi, same as the old one

Fitzgerald , 6 hours ago

you have egg on your face kim!!!!!!!!! I told you!!!!!!!!

Ike Adegbuyi , 8 hours ago

The fact is that she is part of the game

Adron Goddard , 4 hours ago

She got a visit from the CIA ☹

Bill Smail , 11 hours ago

The system is owned by bankers. The creation of the Federal Reserve cemented their hold. Read - Creature From Jekyll Island

enerchia , 12 hours ago

what an unexpected betrayal

Nate Hoffman , 11 hours ago

Great actress. Very convincing.

[Mar 20, 2020] Tulsi Gabbard Drops out, Endorses Establishment Joe Biden for President

A very good commentary... Worth listening in full
Notable quotes:
"... What a sellout, shameful. So much for being anti establishment anti war endorsing Biden who has voted for regime change wars ..."
"... Endorsing an Imperialist warmonger. Seriously, WTF? ..."
Mar 20, 2020 | www.youtube.com
Christo Aivalis 20.3K subscribers Earlier today, Tulsi Gabbard announced she was dropping out of the presidential primary and endorsing Joe Biden for President. Many Tulsi supporters felt betrayed by this move, but it fits the ideological similarities between Tulsi and Biden. It also shows that like with Andrew Yang, Gabbard's anti-establishment image was only superficial, and it shows that Bernie Sanders is the only one meaningfully challenging the political, social, and economic status quo It also shows that those neoliberal democrats who attacked Tulsi as a Russian Asset seem fine with her now, as long as she falls in line. I wonder how Jimmy Dore is feeling?

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The Militant Vegan , 23 hours ago

What a sellout, shameful. So much for being anti establishment anti war endorsing Biden who has voted for regime change wars

Open Mind , 23 hours ago

sound kinda fishy as Biden was talking about a Female VP .

VeryUs Mumblings , 23 hours ago

I hope Benedict Gabbard will enjoy her vacation to Mt Hypocrite.

Robert James , 23 hours ago

Tulsi is out for herself.

Captain Pawpaw , 23 hours ago (edited)

I thought she was anti-war, yet she supports Biden, what a shame, I can't believe it, she was so fake all along, it's like a bad movie twist... is there even one decent politician in USA, besides Bernie?

Ben Reilly , 23 hours ago (edited)

It's a bummer. She really had so much potential especially after she endorsed Bernie the first time. Now Idk. Williamson is the only one who genuinely went to the most progressive candidate without hesitating. #DemocracyDiesInDarkness

B. Greene , 23 hours ago

Endorsing an Imperialist warmonger. Seriously, WTF???

[Mar 20, 2020] Tulsi disappointed a lot of her voters by endorsing a coward you are now apart of the evil axis of evil elite class, shame on you

Mar 20, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Steve Acevedo , 7 hours ago

It's ok that Tulsi got out of the race but why support Biden? She just lost all her credibility and any chance of me ever believing her again.

victor sempiana , 12 hours ago

Miss Gabbard shame on you, you spoke with human empathy, love and decent understanding towards human experience, you disappointed a lot of your fellow human beings by endorsing a coward you are now apart of the evil axis of evil elite class.

S hame on you,, may the bird of paradise look down upon you, shame on you,, you lie , ,now join the elite and eat sponge cake and drink champagne walk the halls of injustice,

[Mar 20, 2020] I supported you for president. But after your endorsement of Joe Biden I will never support you again

Mar 20, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Enrico Palazzo , 4 hours ago (edited)

I supported you for president. But after your endorsement of Joe Biden I will never support you again.

Richard Dukard , 17 hours ago

I'm guessing she won't be making any more appearances on the Jimmy Dore show...

DJAY GERRAD , 14 hours ago

wow. It's like nobody in America politics has any backbone

Empty The Trash , 16 hours ago

Tulsi Gabbard just endorsed Joe Biden. The guy that voted for the Iraq war she had to fight in. Joe Biden almost got her killed.

[Mar 20, 2020] Tulsi Gabbard lost her political future moral high ground with Biden-2020 endorsement by Helen Buyniski

Et tu, Brute? So she was fake all the way. Did they bought her with promise of some position in Biden administration?
Mar 19, 2020 | www.rt.com
Hawaii congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard has dropped out of the 2020 presidential race to endorse her ideological opposite, establishment darling Joe Biden. It's political suicide – for her, and for the idea of a progressive Democrat. Gabbard's decision to bow out on Thursday may have made sense from an electoral perspective – with just two delegates from her native American Samoa, she wasn't exactly a serious challenger to the much-more-popular Biden or even Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, whom she supported in the 2016 race.

Also on rt.com What about ending endless wars? Tulsi Gabbard drops out of presidential race and backs ...Biden

Shut out of the primary debates by a Democratic Party establishment afraid she might do to the frontrunner what she had done to California Senator Kamala Harris, whose juggernaut campaign began taking on water after Gabbard exposed her heinous record live on stage, Gabbard had little hope of an eleventh-hour electoral rally.

But while swearing fealty to the presumed nominee may have scored her some points among her establishment critics, most had a clear ulterior motive, using her exit as further leverage to pressure Sanders to drop out.

Even Tulsi Gabbard has the dignity to drop out and endorse Biden. Your move, @BernieSanders .

-- Kaivan Shroff (@KaivanShroff) March 19, 2020

Many were quite open about dancing on her grave.

It's Assad day for Tulsi Gabbard https://t.co/Qprjus2dXi

-- The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) March 19, 2020

At the same time, Gabbard's erstwhile supporters feel betrayed, and justifiably so. A candidate who built her campaign on opposition to the business-as-usual Democratic policies of cloaking foreign military intervention in humanitarian jargon, Gabbard instead called for taking the trillions spent on the slaughter and plunder of hopelessly-outmatched Middle Eastern nations and using that money to rebuild the crumbling American homeland. It was a message that resonated across the partisan divide, even attracting some disillusioned 2016 Trump supporters who had voted for the president based on his promise to end the endless wars in Syria and Afghanistan, then watched in horror as he stepped up the bombing and tried to open another front in Iran.

For the young Hawaiian to throw her support behind Biden – a man with nearly a 50-year track record of supporting Wall Street, the military-industrial complex, Big Pharma and the rest of the ruling establishment " because he has a good heart " is spitting in the face of the hundreds of thousands of supporters who have contributed to her campaign, made phone calls on her behalf, packed town halls, and otherwise poured their precious time and money into supporting a long-shot candidate.

So Tulsi Gabbard endorses Biden? I have lost all respect for her.P.S. Don't drop out Bernie. #NeverBiden

-- Margaret Kimberley (@freedomrideblog) March 19, 2020

It's no surprise they aren't taking it well. How are voters supposed to trust any future " progressive " candidates after such turncoat maneuvers from not only Gabbard but Sanders, who in 2016 turned on a dime to stump for establishment pick Hillary Clinton after a coterie of unelected superdelegates declared her the winner following a primary process which leaked emails revealed beyond a shadow of a doubt to be rigged? Gabbard's political seppuku should force progressive Democrats to come to terms with the fact that there is no room for reform within their party.

On the bright side, those same pundits who screamed themselves hoarse warning that Gabbard was working for Vladimir Putin to sow discord among the American electorate and swing the nation to Trump now have to quietly revise their apocalyptic visions. Will they admit the congresswoman is not the Russian wrecking ball they claimed she was, or will they carry the fantasy to the finish line and say Gabbard has infected Biden's campaign with Russian 'malign influence'?

[Mar 16, 2020] Sanders has never been a real candidate. He always was an evangelical Socialist ideologue, a Pied Piper, for dopey students and young people who latched onto his notions

The US Presidential elections are, one way or another, mainly instruments for creating consent
Notable quotes:
"... Bernie has a long standing deal with the Democrats to play nice ..."
Mar 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Red Ryder , Mar 15 2020 17:48 utc | 2

Bernie Sanders is not a political candidate. He is an evangelical Socialist ideologue.

He has no personality to battle opponents. He makes proclamations of his ideology.

He has never "fought back".

He has no instinct for debating. He believes, therefore, in his mind, he is correct. He expects others to follow his lead.

He has never been a real candidate. He was a distraction, a Pied Piper, for dopey students and young people who latched onto his notions.

When you offer free rewards and your turnout goes down, you are over as a "candidate".

Biden is brain damaged. He is a very dangerous stalking horse for the return of the Magic Negro, Obama, and the sociopathic Hillary Clinton.

If Biden wins in November, expect more war and a very long recession. Social chaos will look racial, but it will be a battle for the Second Amendment, Free Speech, and Traditional Values versus the Soulless Liberalism intended to establish Feudalism 'round the globe.

Everything in the Dem Primary and Convention is rigged. Bernie never had a chance. He could care less. He never expected to be President. He just wanted big crowds to listen to his Polemics.


SteveK9 , Mar 15 2020 18:25 utc | 6

#4

The guy is 78, what makes you think he cares about Vermont ... trying for the first 100-year-old Senator? He's never been able to do anything in Congress anyway. His big shot was spoiled by the Wicked Witch of the East. He would be President now, if not for her.

jef , Mar 15 2020 18:46 utc | 8
Bernie has fought long and hard. Look at his record, he has fought and succeeded in accomplishing more for the people than any other politician.

What everyone is assuming is that if Bern becomes an ugly asshole just like all the others before him TPTB would allow him to be the candidate or god forbid the POTUS. NEVER gunna happen!

There is only one way We The People can get the representation we need and want it to come out and state in the clearest possible way that Dems and Repubs are serving the same masters with the same basic agenda and represent one party. We must then form a new party and put everything we have behind it. It has to be a radical revolution and Bernie has made it clear that he will fight for all of us. Which by the way is exactly what all the top Dems are saying we don't need. Him getting elected under existing conditions would change NOTHING and he knows it. Forcing him to go

People who put all of the responsibility for achieving this on Bernies shoulders are ignorant chicken shits that don't deserve anything better than Biden, Cliton, Trump.

Kali , Mar 15 2020 18:48 utc | 9
#6 Bernie has a long standing deal with the Democrats to play nice or they will do all they can to ruin him. What else explains his reluctance to go after Biden like he should have earlier in the campaign? Either way, we will see what happens, maybe he will go after him, maybe not. I think he won't. I hope he does.
NOBTS , Mar 15 2020 19:08 utc | 13
If Bernie is real; ie. not sheep-dogging for Hillary again, he can prove it by dropping out immediately and throwing his delegates to Tulsi. This is the only shot to thwart the convention designs of the Dame Named Clinton.
Hey Bernie! Throw a Hail Tulsi Pass now!
chili palmer , Mar 16 2020 3:33 utc | 64
Bernie absolutely will not fight. For the record, at Democrat Party platform meetings in July 2016 he wouldn't put up the slightest fight against TPP . His position against TPP had gained him many followers. Union heads who had been anti-TPP until then showed up and were stongly pro-TPP as were Hillary and Obama:

7/9/16, " Bernie Sanders Defeated on Trade in Democratic Platform Fight, " NBC News, Alex Seitz-Wald, Orlando, Fla.

"Bernie Sanders failed to get strong language opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership inserted in the draft Democratic platform at a party meeting here Saturday....It was clear as a string of trade union presidents lined up at the microphone to oppose the Sanders amendments that his forces were outmatched.... (parag. 11)

The Obama administration supports it [TPP], and the desire to avoid embarrassing the president carried the day, with the labor unions acting as a political shield for the White House. Delegates twice Saturday morning voted down stronger opposition language as Sanders supporters booed and chanted "sellout." Some eventually walked out of the meeting entirely."...

The only topic on the 2020 election agenda should be that the US must be broken into parts. The weapons dictatorship that runs the US won't be stopped any other way.

Jackrabbit , Mar 16 2020 3:49 utc | 65

Bernie allowed Biden to co-opt his "message" on every point.

Even on his signature healthcare initiative, sheepdog Bernie rolled over. Bernie should've/could've asked why we should trust that Biden would get a 'public option' when Obama failed to do so (an Obama-Biden campaign promise).

Bernie also showed that he's got no interest in winning by failing to attack Biden on character issues ( just as he wouldn't attack Hillary on character issues in 2016). Any real candidate would've brought up Hunter Biden's dealings in Ukraine and China.

Bernie also pulled many punches, like:


Bernie's quixotic insurgency isn't anti-establishment. He's leading people into a dead end. And hoping you won't notice.

!!

/div>

Bernie is not there to be president, never was. his tribal mission is to dog herd the progressives into voting for the lesser evil Judeo-Zionist DNC´s pick. the day is not far when the name Sanders will have an entry in the common dictionary of the American language defined as "mass deception".

Posted by: nietzsche1510 , Mar 16 2020 8:45 utc | 76

Bernie is not there to be president, never was. his tribal mission is to dog herd the progressives into voting for the lesser evil Judeo-Zionist DNC´s pick. the day is not far when the name Sanders will have an entry in the common dictionary of the American language defined as "mass deception".

Posted by: nietzsche1510 | Mar 16 2020 8:45 utc | 76

Piero Colombo , Mar 16 2020 11:34 utc | 85

Willie @48 / 84
There's no need for Sanders to designate a Dauphin: at every election the Owners of the Country trot out a shepherd dog, to bark the disgruntled people back to the fold, keeping them from burning down the Democrat abomination down. And yes, the sheeple are just as stupid as we think they are. Wallace, Mc Govern, Jackson, Kucinich, Sanders... the Owners always have a sheepdog ready. No matter if heshehe is a well-meaning, sincere populist like Kucinich or a warmongering imperialist buzztard like Sanders, or even worse, the sheepdog is the wolf in person, like Obama, the stupid sheep keep obeying the dog and voting for more of the same.
Because, see, their Hopium addiction has addled their brains. You just don't go to war relying on heroin addicts; it's just as bad with those who need their daily dose of Hope (when there is none.) They can't follow logic.

/div>

#13 You are right, absolutely Tulsi would make mincemeat of Biden and the establishment and Trump. They know it. But Bernie has surrounded himself with people who see reality through an establishment lens, which means they look forward to a career in the establishment political job market. They have convinced Bernie to ignore Tulsi because of a variety of reasons 1. Some are neocons 2. Some are Hinduphobes 3. Some are both 4. The rest know the establishment is dead set against Tulsi because she is a revolutionary. So even though she would win easily if Bernie gave his support to Tulsi, I can't see him doing that. Let us pray he does because at this point we need a miracle to save us from either Trump, Biden, or some other establishment lackey.

Posted by: Kali , Mar 15 2020 19:20 utc | 15

#13 You are right, absolutely Tulsi would make mincemeat of Biden and the establishment and Trump. They know it. But Bernie has surrounded himself with people who see reality through an establishment lens, which means they look forward to a career in the establishment political job market. They have convinced Bernie to ignore Tulsi because of a variety of reasons 1. Some are neocons 2. Some are Hinduphobes 3. Some are both 4. The rest know the establishment is dead set against Tulsi because she is a revolutionary. So even though she would win easily if Bernie gave his support to Tulsi, I can't see him doing that. Let us pray he does because at this point we need a miracle to save us from either Trump, Biden, or some other establishment lackey.

Posted by: Kali | Mar 15 2020 19:20 utc | 15

Kadath , Mar 16 2020 11:39 utc | 87
Well that's it Bernie is done and he made sure to s*** on his own movement as he stumbled off the stage back to his 3 mansions. He had already lost with super Tuesday, but he had a chance to save his legacy with a strong debate performance if he managed to squeeze some public commitments out of Biden for his followers. Instead he meekly assented to Biden's coronation, what was the point of the debate for Bernie's movement? they got nothing out of Biden, heck, Biden even made a point of trashing Medical Care for all and demanding that all of Bernie's people embrace him as their rightful king. Bernie's people got NOTHING from Biden and the DNC, the will continue to get NOTHING from them until they show the DNC that they will boycott the next election and make the DNC lose elections they would otherwise win. sure the Democrats will blame them for Trump 2020, but the Democrats lost the moderates in 2000 but they still came back to pander to them, time to make them pander to Bernie's people!
Trailer Trash , Mar 16 2020 13:39 utc | 93

>Bernie Sanders has only ever been a clever tool to mobilize
> the young voters. Never designed to actually have a chance. Just whip up dreams
> Posted by: Jezabeel | Mar 16 2020 9:03 utc | 79

... and then crush the dreams so the dreamers drift away in disgust.

Christian J Chuba , Mar 16 2020 13:12 utc | 91
Sadly Bernie is done

1. No one is talking about last night's debate because of the Coronavirus. It doesn't show up on my 'Bing' homepage and there isn't even mention of it on the few liberal websites that I visit except for Counterpunch and there was only one there.

2. The one exchange that I found on CNN / FOX was the 'Italy moment' which was meh when Bernie should have hit it out of the park. In fact, FOX even made it look like it was a homerun for Biden when it was not.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/16/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-debate-healthcare-coronavirus-pandemic-orig-me.cnn

[Mar 12, 2020] Is it because you believe a fake indigenous woman of color is "real" and the real indigenous woman of color in this race is fake?

Mar 12, 2020 | twitter.com

. @DanaPerino I'm not quite sure why you're telling FOX viewers that Elizabeth Warren is the last female candidate in the Dem primary. Is it because you believe a fake indigenous woman of color is "real" and the real indigenous woman of color in this race is fake? pic.twitter.com/VKCxy2JzFe

-- Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) March 3, 2020

[Mar 12, 2020] Will the DNC ever acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard exists?

Notable quotes:
"... One almost feels sorry for Bernie Sanders, who, even at this late stage, still seems to believe that he can drag Joe Biden to the 'left' and secure something/anything? for all those millions of ordinary Americans who supported Bernie's dream of a more just and equal America. ..."
"... Poor Bernie and poor ordinary Americans. It ain't gonna work. Bernie knows that the Demorcratic party has chosen Biden, not him and his political dream is over, once again. ..."
"... With Joe having these " miraculous " wins in the primaries yet bringing nothing new to the table I can only conclude we are set for another 4 yrs of Trumpelstiltskin and his money grubbing ways. ..."
"... Tulsi is inspirational. I'm not talking 'politics' but regarding her willingness to speak truth to corruption. ..."
"... The self-evident externalities of 40 years of unfettered neoliberalism (war, lies, injustice, extreme wealth inequality, etc) now seem to be approaching some sort of explosive end-point. ..."
"... These problems are too entrenched for real politicians to sort out, so what we have instead is a form theatre, albeit a third-rate form of theatre with abysmal actors taking on roles that are far too difficult for them: Trump vs Biden would be the apotheosis this morass. ..."
"... As it turned out, the security state's narrative was easy to pull off because Sander is weak, lacks courage, and was never in it to win it. He never fought back against the DNC. ..."
"... He never called out the cheating in Iowa. There were thousands of volunteers that would be willing to protest on his behalf. Timid Bernie just let it go. ..."
"... Instead Bernie, kept saying "Biden is my good friend" or "Biden can beat Trump." WTF, if Biden can beat Trump then why are you running? Are you campaigning for Biden? ..."
"... The final nail was Tulsi's tweet asking for Biden and Bernie's support for her to right to participate in the next debate. Yang and Marianne Williamson tweeted yes of course, but Bernie was silent. On subsequent mainstream media news appearances Bernie totally ignored Tulsi's candidacy. That was it – Bernie is a lackey – completely intimidated by the DNC. ..."
"... "Former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg is a top contender to head up the World Bank. Bloomberg endorsed Biden immediately after dropping out of the 2020 race. ..."
"... Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts as Treasury secretary. Warren dropped out of the race last week after disappointing losses on Super Tuesday but hasn't yet made an endorsement. Axios reported that Warren's name had been floated as part of an effort to unite the fractured Democratic Party around Biden. Some of Biden's advisers have also suggested Warren as a vice-presidential candidate for that reason. ..."
"... Seems Bernie has reprised his role as sheep dog. Probably the reason the Orwellian DNC unpersoned Tulsi is that she probably refused to play. ..."
"... Hundreds of thousands of ballots in California and Texas were discarded. Warren purposely stayed in the race to screw Bernie in Minnesota and Massachusetts, while Klobuchar and Buttigeg dropped out to prop-up Biden. ..."
"... And as I mentioned, Bernie is his own worst enemy, or as I also speculated he was never in it to win it. ..."
"... Blackmail ? The Clinton campaign exercising leverage over Sanders during the election – Podesta/wikileaks emails. 'This isn't in keeping w the agreement. Since we clearly have some leverage, would be good to flag this for him'. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/47397 ..."
"... Unfortunately. Trump may end up botching the corona crisis and lose, but whoever wins it's going to be four more years of everything getting worse. ..."
"... Some research on 'possible' fraudulent hidden computer counting from first super Tuesday. http://tdmsresearch.com/ ..."
Mar 12, 2020 | off-guardian.org

The handful of American citizens who have by some miracle escaped the wave of death caused by the coronavirus will be braving the toilet-paper maddened crowds to vote in the latest round of Democratic primaries today.

There's several more rounds of voting before the convention in July, but this is the last before the next debate on March 15th.

The process is kinda moot at this point.

The weight of the establishment has thrown itself – for some reason – behind Joe Biden.

Since his "miraculous" wins on Super Tuesday we've been treated to dozens of stories praising his "decency", happy that "angry politics" lost, and calling for the party to "unite behind" Biden . And that's just The Guardian .

Jonathan Freedland, in his special brand of smug establishment boot-licking, suggested that Biden being a long-term establishment democrat is his strength in these times of crisis. You have to wonder if that crisis wasn't awful convenient for Joe, in that instance.

None of the mainstream media have questioned the validity of results or the fairness of the electoral process, although given the DNC's history you'd be forgiven for doing so.

After Biden's win, Trump immediately went on the offensive (so to speak), questioning Biden's mental acuity . This is likely just a taste of things to come.

It has to be said, Biden is vulnerable in this area. Seeing as he seemingly can't go a single public appearance without forgetting what day it is , what position he's running for , the words of the Declaration of Independence , who his wife is , or his own name .

Given this, you have to wonder what the point of the exercise is. Biden will likely be mauled by Trump, so are the Democrats even trying to win? Is the plan for Biden to have "health problems" before the convention, forcing the DNC to pick its own candidate? Or is the plan to have him run, win and then get Ned Starked by his vice-president whoever he or (more likely) she may be?

Whatever the plan turns out to be, progressives and leftists all over America will likely be disappointed in Bernie. If last time is anything to go by, no matter how obviously he (and more importantly his voters) get screwed over, Sanders will just let it happen.

It seems like Bernie is a serial offender here. Setting up hope only to fold faster than Superman on laundry day when the pressure is on. You wonder if he's being used as a tool to engage the youth vote, or just a puppet designed to funnel all real leftist thinkers into a political cul-de-sac.

The other Great White Hope of American leftists – or should that be "Great Native American hope"? – Elizabeth Warren, dropped out last week but is yet to endorse her fellow "progressive", Bernie Sanders. This could mean she's spiteful, or it could mean she's angling to be Biden's VP nominee. Either way, no real surprise and no real loss. Warren always talked a better game than she played and she didn't talk all that well.

Oh, and the DNC changed their debate eligibility rules to exclude Tulsi Gabbard . Something both the other candidates and the vast majority of the mainstream media have been quiet about.

Questions arise

Are the democrats really rallying behind Joe Biden? why?! Are they planning to throw the race? Is Joe Biden going senile? Who will each candidate pick as a running mate? Will the DNC ever acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard exists?

NOBTS ,

If Bernie is real; ie. not sheep-dogging for Hillary again, he can prove it by dropping out immediately and throwing his delegates to Tulsi so she can debate Joe Biden on Sunday; then watch the fur fly. .last chance for the left.
Seriously, the only positive play left for Bernie, (if positive change is his intent )would be to immediately drop out and throw a "Hail Tulsi Pass" downfield ahead of the Sunday debate.

michaelk ,

One would imagine that Tulsi Gabbard would tick all the liberal/left boxes and virtues the Guardian pretends to adore and aspire to. She seems almost too perfect in my eyes another story perhaps? Anyway, one wonders what all those politically correct and so obvioulsy woke feminist ladies at the Guardian have against Tulsi? The Guardian seems to have decided that its future lies overseas, in America, which is very odd for a newspaper/platform based in the UK? Consequently, they are increasingly obsessed with moving closer and closer to the Democrat party in the US.

This is like the BBC that keeps talking to Americans about absolutely everything of importance that happens in the world and seeking their insights and opinions to a truly remarkably degree, considering how little they know and understand about the rest of the world and how poor they are at foreign languages and historical knowledge. Christ they know next to nothing about their own history, let alone the rest of the world! The idea that all these Americans are authorities on the world is ridiculous.

Harry Stotle ,

The ghosting of Gabbard illustrates how the MSM act in concert, and how they look after their own, i.e. backing those understand their role as puppets for corporate backers.

It also illustrates how the likes of the Guardian turn identity politics off and on like a tap, but more importantly how even shibboleths like identity politics are still secondary to an economic model that has placed us on the road to armegeddon.

Maxine ,

Well, Tulsi is FAR from "too perfect" .She voluntarily took part in the Bush/Cheny invasion of Iraq .How could anybody with a working mind have believed the lies of these nortorious criminals? .And what sort of judgement did this show? .Just as bad, she is a big fan of India's monstrous Right-Wing leader, Modi .Nevertheless, the DNC's throwing her out of the debate is another hideous sign of its corruption .Like her or not, she should have her opinions heard by the public.

Maxine ,

Don't get me wrong, I find the Gaurdian as despicable as CNN, MSNBC, FOX, the NYT and the rest of the American MSM .OffG is a god-send.

Admin2 ,

Thanks Maxine!

michaelk ,

One almost feels sorry for Bernie Sanders, who, even at this late stage, still seems to believe that he can drag Joe Biden to the 'left' and secure something/anything? for all those millions of ordinary Americans who supported Bernie's dream of a more just and equal America.

Poor Bernie and poor ordinary Americans. It ain't gonna work. Bernie knows that the Demorcratic party has chosen Biden, not him and his political dream is over, once again.

Now it's all about stopping the 'monster' Trump first and foremost. The coming election won't actually be about anything of real substance, nothing like Bernie's political ideas about healthcare and education; but it'll be a crass referendum about Trump's personality. Biden, of course, doesn't really have a personality anymore, that's going fast, along with his mental capacity.

Trump will smash him to pieces and be re-elected again. Four more years, at least.

Maxine ,

I would have voted for Bernie in 2016 if the DNC hadn't rigged the primary on behalf of Hillary .But I was overwhelmingly disappointed that he in the end supported her .Sadly, I am appalled that once again he announced he would support Biden if the latter won the primary this time. How could he?. Hillary and Biden are diametrically opposed to every one of Sander's professed principles!

Andy ,

With Joe having these " miraculous " wins in the primaries yet bringing nothing new to the table I can only conclude we are set for another 4 yrs of Trumpelstiltskin and his money grubbing ways.

As for Michelle Obama coming into the fight , I can only laugh and carry on with my life. I fail to see what she has to offer, other than being Barry's wife. Not really awe – inspiring stuff. Young Hilary must be turning in her coffin at the thought of being pipped to the post, as the first female President by another ex presidents wife.

We truly are living in bizarro times. The men behind the curtain must be laughing their collective arses off at the results of this circus they have created.

binra ,

Tulsi is inspirational. I'm not talking 'politics' but regarding her willingness to speak truth to corruption.

harry stotle ,

America dispensed with the idea of democracy some time ago.

The self-evident externalities of 40 years of unfettered neoliberalism (war, lies, injustice, extreme wealth inequality, etc) now seem to be approaching some sort of explosive end-point.

There may be a full blown international conflict, rather than asymmetrical power used to intimidate weaker states (led by the USA, and backed to the hilt by Britain, Israel, and KSA).

These problems are too entrenched for real politicians to sort out, so what we have instead is a form theatre, albeit a third-rate form of theatre with abysmal actors taking on roles that are far too difficult for them: Trump vs Biden would be the apotheosis this morass.

Pity more citizens in America fail to understand what has been done to them, or what this corrupt regime has inflicted on rest of the world.

Britain is no better – to expose what is happening we need a functioning MSM but what we have instead is the Guardian and BBC: platforms that are now infamous for churning out low calibre, or fake news.

different frank ,

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237466070145007617

Seamus Padraig ,

Is the plan for Biden to have "health problems" before the convention, forcing the DNC to pick its own candidate?

That's my theory. I think they're going to suddenly 'discover' that Joltin' Joe has 'health problems' and then roll out their real candidate on the second ballot at the convention this summer–probably Michelle Obama.

Will the DNC ever acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard exists?

I think our only hope now is that the Corona Virus kills all other politicians in the US, leaving only Tulsi alive. Of course, the DNC would probably still find some way to deny her the nomination somehow

michaelk ,

The DNC's election tactics were superb. Corrupt, rotten, foul and manipulative as well, but they worked. The swathe of candidates at the start gave the impression of a democratic and fair race, whilst deflecting people away from the stark choice of supporting Biden or Sanders from the beginning.

Whilst Trump succeeded by first capturing the Republican party and then going on to win the presidential election; Sanders chose not to follow that strategy, apparently believing, though it's an extraordinary thing to believe, that the leadership of the party was going to allow him to win the nomination 'fairly.'

Biden against Trump is going to be the worst, most grotesque, election contest, ever seen in the United States. Two totally unworthy candidates battling it out over the rotting corpse of a dying democracy. Probably the best result would be if most people just stayed at home on election day and boycotted the entire ghastly event.

wardropper ,

Yes. People should just stay home. But of course there is a regular percentage of observers who are incensed by the idea that people will realize how little effect their vote truly has.

"It's treason not to vote", they rage, quite oblivious to the really treasonous system which manipulates votes according to something quite different from the interests of democracy.

wardropper ,

It would be interesting to see, (although it's not going to happen) how the media, faced with an absolute zero voting turnout, would still manage to yap on about a "neck and neck race", with the most corrupt party emerging the clear winner after all

Gary Weglarz ,

The Democratic Party candidate selection process continues to roll along providing all the tension and suspense of an impending colonoscopy – sans anesthetic. It has been clear since 25 (yes 25) Democratic Party challengers have already "dropped out" of the race – that divide and conquer would be the order of the day. Spread the electorate out among a ridiculous number of mainstream centrist candidates and then throw all that support to one candidate – Joe Biden. Why would the party establishment choose Biden? Perhaps the following recent quote from Joe might shed some light. In trying to reference the Declaration of Independence Biden had the following to say to a crowd at a campaign rally:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women created by -- you know, you know . . . the thing."

Since we all know "the thing" is said to "work in mysterious ways" – one can deduce that the Democratic Party elites are perhaps depending upon "the thing" to work some sort of a miracle for them. At any rate it is all rather "mysterious" indeed.

Since Tulsi Gabbard has had the temerity to not join the 25 brain-dead placeholders and to "drop out" herself, and since she has further shown the very bad form of continuing to speak to anyone who will listen about America's illegal amoral regime-change wars – she has sadly had to be simply – "disappeared." Yes, I know, this term is usually associated with the death-squad democracies my government supports endlessly and shamelessly in Latin America, but if nothing else our American MSM have shown that you don't need death squads when they are on the job. They are quite capable of completely and entirely "disappearing" anyone sharing a message that has not been – "oligarchy approved." Trying to find reference to Tulsi in MSM is like trying to get through a day without being brutally reminded of Joe Biden's blinding dementia problem – pretty much impossible.

As the author suggests the Democratic Party establishment surely must have some plan other than simply sabotaging Sanders and then throwing a demented Biden to the Orange One to act as a pinata during the presidential debates. We American's do love "reality TV," but this I fear would be about as crass and horrific a spectacle as watching someone drown puppies on live television. Surely we must assume that the DNC and party oligarchy plan to use Biden as yet another "place-holder" to be replaced between now and fall presidential debates. The name "Hillary 'the rot' Clinton comes to mind – and suddenly one is reminded that there are worse things in life than a colonoscopy.

Of course the actual credibility of all of this spectacle to date depends upon one actually believing that both the polling numbers, and the voting processes, are honest and ethical and accurate, which seems to me to be about as likely as "you know, you know . . . the thing," performing some sort of a "miracle" on behalf of the Democratic Party so that it can valiantly vanquish the Orange One – using of all things – a dementia sufferer.

From my limited vantage point here in southern California it would appear that America is very much like a runaway train speeding toward a very very thick brick wall while gaining speed minute by minute. This train of course has no "driver" – save the inexorable laws of history as they pertain to crumbling "empires."

With that in mind I think I'll go shopping again so I can pretend none of this is happening – while joining with my neighbors in "hoarding" as much toilet paper as I possibly can! Actually, truth be told, the local toilet paper supply is now long gone and people are now hoarding paper towels – (I kid you not) – which of course portends a lot of very very sore bottoms by the time this is all over.

Seamus Padraig ,

You can have a dogshit sandwich or a catshit sandwich, just so long as its kosher.

So true! +1000

Charlotte Russe ,

Unfortunately, for all of Bernie's enthusiastic supporter 2020 was a redux of 2016. Amnesia, initially sets in caused by the initial excitement. Bernie's campaign overwhelms those yearning for change. Sanders is cognizant of how young voters and the marginalized are economically suffering. He knows exactly what to say to arouse an audience of thousands.

Devoted crowds eagerly rally around Bernie anticipating the upcoming primaries, believing he'll win everyone of them. After all, how could anyone be against a message promoting social justice.

And lo and behold, right out of the box the security state shenanigans begin. A "Shadow app" surfaces in Iowa, followed by a narrow win in New Hampshire. And although Bernie won the popular vote in the first two primaries he still comes out the loser to CIA Pete. However, not to be deterred Bernie won the Nevada caucus in a landslide. That was the moment when security state needed to make its move. It was now or never. These ghouls could not let Bernie pick up any more momentum. If they did, it would be too late to stop him–Milwaukee could turn into a bloodbath. It was time for the intelligence agencies to take a stand.

Clyburn a sellout bourgeois conservative black was called upon to do his duty. You don't get to be a "misleader" of the poor and the dejected if you won't convince them to smile while jumping off a cliff.

Slick Clyburn, gathered all the other crooked black politicians and they united in force behind brain dead Biden. When misleader Clyburn speaks his downtrodden constituency listens. South Carolina was a wipeout–Biden overwhelmingly won. And that's all the security state needed. Using the state-run mainstream media news propaganda machine in 72 hours Biden's campaign was raised like Lazarus from the dead.

Drooling Joe, received a slew of slick endorsements from all the longtime party hacks. A narrative was easily generated– Sanders was a loser and only Biden could beat Trump. At the end of day, don't you dumbasses want to beat Trump. So let's unite behind alzheimer Joe–he's our best chance.

As it turned out, the security state's narrative was easy to pull off because Sander is weak, lacks courage, and was never in it to win it. He never fought back against the DNC.

He never called out the cheating in Iowa. There were thousands of volunteers that would be willing to protest on his behalf. Timid Bernie just let it go. There were other things showing Bernie's lack of interest in winning. He stupidly embraced the Russiagate concocted narrative and then was victimized by it himself. He refused to tear into Biden describing in detail how every piece of reactionary legislation Joe passed was based on payoffs he'd received for either his son or his brother. In South Carolina, Bernie never used the millions donated to play video clips proving Biden is a warmongering racist.

Instead Bernie, kept saying "Biden is my good friend" or "Biden can beat Trump." WTF, if Biden can beat Trump then why are you running? Are you campaigning for Biden?

The final nail was Tulsi's tweet asking for Biden and Bernie's support for her to right to participate in the next debate. Yang and Marianne Williamson tweeted yes of course, but Bernie was silent. On subsequent mainstream media news appearances Bernie totally ignored Tulsi's candidacy. That was it – Bernie is a lackey – completely intimidated by the DNC.

Naturally the DNC didn't want Tulsi near the debate stage–she's the bravest of the lot. Tulsi would have proved Biden was a crook and a war criminal. Tulsi presence would be a boom for bernie, but Bernie didn't want that since he was in cahoots with the DNC.

And in the end, that's what it was always all about NOTHING. Bernie is the Tammy and Jim Baker of politics a prophet of false hope. He gathers up all the guiless and guillibe and then tosses them into the lion's den.

In Biden's case it's easy to know why the slithering DC establishment gang embraced him with open arms -- they all wanted to come back home

Here are some of the people Biden is considering for senior positions, per Axios:

Every loathsome contemptible neoliberal military interventionist is waiting in the wings to continue where Obama left off ..

Gall ,

Super Tuesday was so obviously rigged. The vote in California deviated from exit polling by over 15% and don't get me started on that Shadow app used for the Iowa caucus. The only difference wasn't as blatantly obvious as the last Primary.

Seems Bernie has reprised his role as sheep dog. Probably the reason the Orwellian DNC unpersoned Tulsi is that she probably refused to play.

Charlotte Ruse ,

Hundreds of thousands of ballots in California and Texas were discarded. Warren purposely stayed in the race to screw Bernie in Minnesota and Massachusetts, while Klobuchar and Buttigeg dropped out to prop-up Biden.

In avid Bernie locations polling centers were closed. And when all else failed voting machines are hacked. No one should underate the power of state-run mainstream media propaganda they hammered Sanders and launded the creep Biden.

And as I mentioned, Bernie is his own worst enemy, or as I also speculated he was never in it to win it.

The elections are more democratic in Afghanistan. When I previously commented on several posts the Democratic Party Primaries need to be monitored by a UN Raconteur many found it amusing.

Maxine ,

Why did Bernie become a candidate if he were not in it to win? .I can't figure that one out.

Eric McCoo ,

Blackmail ? The Clinton campaign exercising leverage over Sanders during the election – Podesta/wikileaks emails. 'This isn't in keeping w the agreement. Since we clearly have some leverage, would be good to flag this for him'. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/47397

RealPeter ,

There is a lot in what Charlotte says. Unfortunately. Trump may end up botching the corona crisis and lose, but whoever wins it's going to be four more years of everything getting worse.

Andy ,

Some research on 'possible' fraudulent hidden computer counting from first super Tuesday. http://tdmsresearch.com/

Ken ,

The fix is in for the status quo, and it's quite likely another 4 years of the orange asshole.

RobG ,

The real left in America was destroyed in the early 20th century. What goes now is a complete joke. https://www.youtube.com/embed/LehcJeNbFBw?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

Geoffrey Skoll ,

Everybody knows (listen to Leonard Cohen) Tulsi Gabbard does not exist, just like everybody knows Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction, Assad, that Putin Nazi, spread some kind of Bad Gas in Douma, repeatededly over several years since 2014, which the Intrepid White Helmets made better–just watch their Hollywood, Oscar winning movie. Of course Joe Biden is senile, else why would he challenge our carrot-topped Fearless leader, and everybody knows that Putin-Nazi Boris and Natasha tried to rig the 2016 election but were thwarted by Moose-Squirel, and other CIA assets.

[Mar 11, 2020] The toilet-paper maddened crowds will be braving coronavirus to vote in the latest round of Democratic primaries today

Now this became a real circus.
Notable quotes:
"... The weight of the establishment has thrown itself – for some reason – behind Joe Biden. Since his "miraculous" wins on Super Tuesday we've been treated to dozens of stories praising his "decency", happy that "angry politics" lost, and calling for the party to "unite behind" Biden . And that's just The Guardian . ..."
"... Jonathan Freedland, in his special brand of smug establishment boot-licking, suggested that Biden being a long-term establishment democrat is his strength in these times of crisis. You have to wonder if that crisis wasn't awful convenient for Joe, in that instance. ..."
Mar 11, 2020 | off-guardian.org

The toilet-paper maddened crowds will be braving coronavirus to vote in the latest round of Democratic primaries today.

There's several more rounds of voting before the convention in July, but this is the last before the next debate on March 15th.

The process is kinda moot at this point.

The weight of the establishment has thrown itself – for some reason – behind Joe Biden. Since his "miraculous" wins on Super Tuesday we've been treated to dozens of stories praising his "decency", happy that "angry politics" lost, and calling for the party to "unite behind" Biden . And that's just The Guardian .

Jonathan Freedland, in his special brand of smug establishment boot-licking, suggested that Biden being a long-term establishment democrat is his strength in these times of crisis. You have to wonder if that crisis wasn't awful convenient for Joe, in that instance.

... ... ...

Whatever the plan turns out to be, progressives and leftists all over America will likely be disappointed in Bernie. If last time is anything to go by, no matter how obviously he (and more importantly his voters) get screwed over, Sanders will just let it happen.

The other Great White Hope of American leftists – or should that be "Great Native American hope"? – Elizabeth Warren, dropped out last week but is yet to endorse her fellow "progressive", Bernie Sanders. This could mean she's spiteful, or it could mean she's angling to be Biden's VP nominee. Either way, no real surprise and no real loss. Warren always talked a better game than she played and she didn't talk all that well.

Oh, and the DNC changed their debate eligibility rules to exclude Tulsi Gabbard . Something both the other candidates and the vast majority of the mainstream media have been quiet about.

Questions arise Are the democrats really rallying behind Joe Biden? why?! Are they planning to throw the race? Is Joe Biden going senile? Who will each candidate pick as a running mate? Will the DNC ever acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard exists?

[Mar 09, 2020] Look at the wonderful in DNC land where rules and format of debate is contntly changing to keep Tulsi out

Mar 09, 2020 | angrybearblog.com

Now Tired Joe gets to sit, relax a bit .not worry about record players and 150 million gun deaths .

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/486553-rising-march-9-2020

Of course the DNC has now changed the rules again! Tulsi will not be allowed to debate .oh .but "she has no real support," you say! So what?

Rules can be altered for billionaires .what a party for the rich and privileged. DNC is Trump-light.

As Hillary said, "Rules are rules" .except when they are changed!

Good luck, you guys who think all is wonderful in DNC land.

[Mar 08, 2020] Jimmy Dore says that the rule is that the requirement for Dem debates will be always one more delegate than Tusli Gabbard has

Video (with some swearing)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS4vMVmvfQU
Notable quotes:
"... As interesting as it might be to have Tulsi there, the time has come for a two-man debate, mano a mano , between Mr. Neoliberal and Mr. Democratic Socialist. Our time has come. ..."
Mar 08, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

antidlc , March 6, 2020 at 4:30 pm

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-03-06/new-threshold-for-next-debate-likely-rules-out-tulsi-gabbard

New Qualifications for Next Debate Likely Rule Out Gabbard
The Democratic National Committee has ratcheted up the threshold to qualify for its next presidential debate, requiring candidates to have picked up at least 20% of convention delegates allocated in state primary contests.

The Rev Kev , March 6, 2020 at 6:16 pm

Jimmy Dore says that the rule is that the requirement will be always one more delegate than Tusli Gabbard has. Video below (with some swearing)-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS4vMVmvfQU

Bill Carson , March 6, 2020 at 6:18 pm

As interesting as it might be to have Tulsi there, the time has come for a two-man debate, mano a mano , between Mr. Neoliberal and Mr. Democratic Socialist. Our time has come.

[Mar 05, 2020] Tulsi Gets First Delegate, from Her Place of Birth No Less caucus99percent

Mar 05, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

JCWeb on Tue, 03/03/2020 - 7:20pm

Yes, the results from American Samoa are in, first to report 100% on Super Tuesday, and Tulsi is on the board, with over 20% of the vote, in second place behind (surprise) Michael Bloomberg, who also earns his first delegates tonight. Biden, Sanders and Warren didn't hit the 15% viability threshold and are shut out.

https://www.businessinsider.com/american-samoa-democratic-caucus-live-re...

Bloomberg 49.86% 5 delegates
Tulsi 29.34% 1 delegate
Sanders 10.54% 0 delegates
Biden 8.83% 0 delegates
Warren 1.42% 0 delegates

Now, if the DNC sticks to the same criteria for the upcoming debate as they had for the last three, one delegate should be sufficient for Tulsi to return to the debate stage. Of course, they've been known to change the rules in the middle of the game before, but this time it looks like they won't have the excuse of too many candidates, particularly if Liz drops out if she can't win her home state.

janis b on Tue, 03/03/2020 - 9:13pm
My guess would be because

@The Liberal Moonbat

like many of the Pacific islands, the vast majority of the population is Christian, and like many Pacific Islands the population revere their Chiefs and religious leaders. The American Samoan Chief endorsed Bloomberg. Why he did is a partly explained in the following article from The Hill ... Climate change is a very immediate and tangible experience for pacific Islanders.

"I believe in Mike's message of change for the people of American Samoa -- he has the experience and the vision to bring about the change we need -- including staving off climate change, which will be devastating to our home. He has my family's vote, and my village," the chief said, according to a campaign release.

I haven't seen Bloomberg's ads there, but I can imagine he promised to help them in that regard.

laurel on Tue, 03/03/2020 - 7:39pm
Wonderful news for Tulsi.

She needed and more than deserved at least a delegate for her self-sacrificing, steadfast courage and honesty throughout this crooked campaign season. From the preponderance of Bloomberg votes, it looks like American Samoans haven't been paying close attention, but thankfully some of them could see past sophisticated advertisements to recognize one who is truly their own.

Thank you, Samoa.

[Mar 04, 2020] DNC Scrambles To Change Debate Threshold After Gabbard Qualifies by Caitlin Johnstone

Mar 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Caitlin Johnstone via Medium.com,

On a CNN panel on Monday , host John King spoke with Politico reporter Alex Thompson about the possibility of Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard qualifying on Super Tuesday for the party's primary debate in Phoenix later this month.

"I will note this, she's from Hawaii," King said of Gabbard.

"She's a congresswoman from Hawaii; American Samoa votes on Super Tuesday. The rules as they now stand, if you get a delegate, you're back in the debates. As of now. Correct? "

"Yeah, they haven't, I mean, that's been the rule for every single debate," Thompson replied.

"And the DNC has not released their official guidance for the March 15 debate in Phoenix, but it would be very obvious that they are trying to cancel Tulsi, who they're scared of a third party run, if they then change the rules to prevent her to rejoin the debate stage."

And indeed, as the smoke clears from the Super Tuesday frenzy, this is precisely what appears to have transpired.

Watch it til the end. https://t.co/SMU5NhCDUo

-- Caitlin Johnstone ⏳ (@caitoz) March 4, 2020

"The Gabbard campaign said it was informed that it would net two delegates from the caucuses in American Samoa, which will allocate a total of six pledged delegates," The Hill reports today. "However, a report from CNN said that the candidate will receive only one delegate from the territory on Tuesday evening."

"Tulsi Gabbard may have just qualified for the next Democratic debate thanks to American Samoa," reads a fresh Business Insider headline. "Under the most recent rules, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii may have qualified for the next televised debate by snagging a delegate in American Samoa's primary."

"If Tulsi Gabbard gets a delegate out of American Samoa, as it appears she has done, she will likely qualify for the next Democratic debate," tweeted Washington Post 's Dave Weigel. "We don't have new debate rules yet, but party has been inviting any candidate who gets a delegate."

Rank-and-file supporters of the Hawaii congresswoman enjoyed a brief celebration on social media, before having their hopes dashed minutes later by an announcement from the DNC's Communications Director Xochitl Hinojosa that "the threshold will go up".

"We have two more debates -- of course the threshold will go up," tweeted Hinojosa literally minutes after Gabbard was awarded the delegate. "By the time we have the March debate, almost 2,000 delegates will be allocated. The threshold will reflect where we are in the race, as it always has."

We have two more debates-- of course the threshold will go up. By the time we have the March debate, almost 2,000 delegates will be allocated. The threshold will reflect where we are in the race, as it always has.

-- Xochitl Hinojosa (@XochitlHinojosa) March 4, 2020

"DNC wastes no time in announcing they will rig the next debates to exclude Tulsi," journalist Michael Tracey tweeted in response.

This outcome surprised nobody, least of all Gabbard supporters. The blackout on the Tulsi 2020 campaign has reached such extreme heights this year that you now routinely see pundits saying things like there are no more people of color in the race, or that Elizabeth Warren is the only woman remaining in the primary. They're not just ignoring her, they're actually erasing her. They're weaving a whole alternative reality out of narrative in which she is literally, officially, no longer in the race.

After Gabbard announced her presidential candidacy in January of last year I wrote an article explaining that I was excited about her campaign because she would severely disrupt establishment narratives, and, for the remainder of 2019, that's exactly what she did. She spoke unauthorized truths about Syria, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, she drew attention to the plight of Julian Assange and Edward Snowden and said she'd drop all charges against both men if elected, she destroyed the hawkish, jingoistic positions of fellow candidates on the debate stage and arguably single-handedly destroyed Kamala Harris' run.

The narrative managers had their hands full with her. The Russia smears were relentless, the fact that she met with Syrian president Bashar al-Assad was brought up at every possible opportunity in every debate and interview, and she was scoffed at and derided at every turn.

Now, in 2020, none of that is happening. There's a near-total media blackout on the Gabbard campaign, such that I now routinely encounter rank-and-file liberals on social media who tell me they honestly had no idea she's still running. She's been completely redacted out of the narrative matrix.

All candidates of color are out. An openly gay married candidate is out. 2 women left. The rest? 70+ old white men fighting for the future of America in 2020. Because of course.

-- Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) March 1, 2020

So it's unsurprising that the DNC felt comfortable striding forward and openly announcing a change in the debate threshold literally the very moment Gabbard crossed it. These people understand narrative control, and they know full well that they have secured enough of it on the Tulsi Problem that they'll be able to brazenly rig her right off the stage without suffering any meaningful consequences.

The establishment narrative warfare against Gabbard's campaign dwarfs anything we've seen against Sanders, and the loathing and dismissal they've been able to generate have severely hamstrung her run. It turns out that a presidential candidate can get away with talking about economic justice and plutocracy when it comes to domestic policy, and some light dissent on matters of foreign policy will be tolerated, but aggressively attacking the heart of the actual bipartisan foreign policy consensus will get you shut down, smeared and shunned like nothing else. This is partly because US presidents have a lot more authority over foreign affairs than domestic, and it's also because endless war is the glue which holds the empire together.

And now they're working to install a corrupt, right-wing warmongering dementia patient as the party's nominee. And from the looks of the numbers I've seen from Super Tuesday so far, it looks entirely likely that those manipulations will prove successful.

All this means is that the machine is exposing its mechanics to the view of the mainstream public. Both the Gabbard campaign and the Sanders campaign have been useful primarily in this way; not because the establishment would ever let them actually become president, but because they force the unelected manipulators who really run things in the most powerful government on earth to show the public their box of dirty tricks.

[Mar 04, 2020] I just can't be sympathetic with Bernie and his voters tonight. Remember how Bernie came out to support Tulsi Gabbard when she was having such a hard time with the establishment? Neither do I

Mar 04, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

SharonM , Mar 4 2020 3:34 utc | 104

I just can't be sympathetic with Bernie and his voters tonight. Remember how Bernie came out to support Tulsi Gabbard when she was having such a hard time with the establishment? Neither do I. Remember how Bernie's supporters made sure Bernie would speak the truth about russiagate, or they weren't going to support him? Neither do I. Remember how Bernie made it clear in every debate and every interview that the choice is endless war or medicare for all? He didn't. Watching someone with a few leftist atoms in him being defeated in State after State by a warmongering sociopath who belongs in a hospice with bars on the windows, is like watching what he deserves.

Jackrabbit , Mar 4 2020 6:10 utc | 129

Copeland @122
People who casually tell you that Bernie is for the Empire--and not for the repair of society-- are people trafficking in lies.
I encourage everyone to look at Bernie with a critical eye and decide for yourself. Anyone in political life for any length of time (like Bernie) must know that USA is EMPIRE-FIRST. Empire priorities (military and intelligence focus; 'weaponized' liberalism; neoliberal graft; dollar hegemony; Jihadis as a proxy army; etc.) dictate the limits of domestic politics.

Bernie's quixotic insurgency was doomed to fail unless Bernie attacked the Democratic Party's connection to Empire and use of identity politics to divide and conquer. Oh, and Bernie would have to threaten to leave the Democratic Party -- but then would become the independent Movement that Bernie and the Democratic Party have tried so hard to prevent!

!!

[Mar 03, 2020] Semi-senile Biden is now so Presidential and is the best candidate forward

However, we do need to raise questions about election anomalies. Journalists should be focused on the DNC is cheating Bernie and, by extension, the American people. It must be recorded. It should be investigated. The first 4 primary contests account for only 4% of all allocated delegates, yet have a hugely disproportionate influence on the race. Of those 4 states, only NV is roughly in synch with the national demographic profile.
The whole primary system needs a major overhaul. It takes too long and costs too much (e.g., all the wasted $$ Steyer and Tulsi spent in SC). It's an embarrassing wasteful spectacle which only enriches the MSM and hired political consultant hacks. Most voters don't bother to tune in until 10-12 months into the marathon campaign. I would blow it all up and start over from scratch.
"They're fearful because Bernie Sanders, his political revolution, morally based, ethically based, is a fundamental challenge to their interest and their status." -- Dr. Cornel West
Mar 03, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

. @DWStweets endorses @JoeBiden .
"It was a very easy decision," she said. "We need to make sure that we put the best candidate forward." https://t.co/0uIvUBxlQp

-- Anthony Man (@browardpolitics) March 1, 2020

[Mar 03, 2020] The "Russian meddling" fraud: Tulsi Gabbard denounces election interference by US intelligence agencies by Patrick Martin

Notable quotes:
"... Washington Post ..."
"... Washington Post, ..."
"... World Socialist Web Site ..."
"... The author also recommends: ..."
Mar 03, 2020 | www.wsws.org

In a remarkable statement that has gone virtually unreported in the American media, Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, publicly denounced US intelligence agencies for interfering in the presidential contest and attempting to sabotage the campaign of Democratic frontrunner Bernie Sanders.

In an opinion column published February 27 by the Hill , Gabbard attacked the article published by the Washington Post on February 21, the eve of the Nevada caucuses, which claimed that Russia was intervening in the US election to support Sanders. She also criticized the decision of billionaire Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York City, to repeat the anti-Russia slander against Sanders during the February 25 Democratic presidential debate in South Carolina.

Gabbard is a military officer in a National Guard medical unit who has been deployed to Iraq and Kuwait and has continuing and close contact with the Pentagon. She is obviously familiar with the machinations of the US military-intelligence apparatus and knows whereof she speaks. Her harsh and uncompromising language is that much more significant.

She wrote:

Enough is enough. I am calling on all presidential candidates to stop playing these dangerous political games and immediately condemn any interference in our elections by out-of-control intelligence agencies. A "news article" published last week in the Washington Post, which set off yet another manufactured media firestorm, alleges that the goal of Russia is to trick people into criticizing establishment Democrats. This is a laughably obvious ploy to stifle legitimate criticism and cast aspersions on Americans who are rightly skeptical of the powerful forces exerting control over the primary election process.

We are told the aim of Russia is to "sow division," but the aim of corporate media and self-serving politicians pushing this narrative is clearly to sow division of their own -- by generating baseless suspicion against the Sanders campaign. It's extremely disingenuous for "journalists" and rival candidates to publicize a news article that merely asserts, without presenting any evidence, that Russia is "helping" Bernie Sanders -- but provides no information as to what that "help" allegedly consists of.

Gabbard continued:

If the CIA, FBI or any other intelligence agency is going to tell voters that "Russians" are interfering in this election to help certain candidates -- or simply "sow discord" -- then it needs to immediately provide us with the details of what exactly it's alleging.

After pointing out that the Democratic Party establishment and the corporate media have had little interest in measures to actually improve election security, such as requiring paper ballots or some other form of permanent record of how people vote, Gabbard demanded:

The FBI, CIA or any other intelligence agency should immediately stop smearing presidential candidates with innuendo and vague, evidence-free assertions. That is antithetical to the role those agencies play in a free democracy. The American people cannot have faith in our intelligence agencies if they are pushing an agenda to harm candidates they dislike.

As socialists, we do not share Gabbard's belief that the intelligence agencies have a positive role to play or that the American people need to have faith in them. As her military career demonstrates, she is a supporter of American imperialism and of the capitalist state. However, her opposition to the "dirty tricks" campaign against Sanders is entirely legitimate and puts the spotlight on a deeply anti-democratic operation by the military-intelligence apparatus.

Gabbard denounces this "new McCarthyism" and calls on her fellow candidate to rebuff the CIA smears and "defend the freedoms enshrined in our Constitution." Not a single one of the remaining candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination -- including Sanders himself -- has responded to her appeal.

Her statement concludes that the goal of the "mainstream corporate media and the warmongering political establishment" was either to block Sanders from winning the nomination, or, if he does become the nominee, to "force him to engage in inflammatory anti-Russia rhetoric and perpetuate the new Cold War and nuclear arms race, which are existential threats to our country and the world."

Despite Gabbard's appeal for the Democratic candidates not to be "manipulated and forced into a corner by overreaching intelligence agencies," the Democratic Party establishment has been working in lockstep with the intelligence agencies in the anti-Russia campaign against Trump, which began even before election day in 2016, metastasized into the Mueller investigation and then the effort to impeach Trump over his delay in the dispatch of military aid to Ukraine for its war with Russian-backed separatist forces.

Her comments are a complete vindication of what the World Socialist Web Site has written about the anti-Russia campaign and impeachment: these were efforts by the Democratic Party, acting as the representative of the military-intelligence apparatus, to block the emergence of genuine left-wing popular opposition to Trump, and to channel popular hostility to this administration in a right-wing and pro-imperialist direction.

Gabbard herself was the only House Democrat to abstain on impeachment, although she did not voice any principled grounds for her vote, such as opposition to the intelligence agencies. She has based her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination largely on an appeal to antiwar sentiment, particularly opposing US intervention in Syria. She has also said that if elected, she would drop all charges against Julian Assange and pardon Edward Snowden.

These views led to a vicious attack by Hillary Clinton, the defeated Democratic presidential candidate in 2016, who last October called Gabbard "a Russian asset," claiming that she was being groomed by Russia to serve as a third-party candidate in 2020 who would take votes away from the Democratic nominee and help re-elect President Trump. "She's the favorite of the Russians," Clinton claimed.

Since Clinton's attack, the Democratic National Committee has excluded Gabbard from its monthly debates, manipulating the eligibility requirements so that billionaire Michael Bloomberg would qualify even for debates held in states where he was not on the ballot but Gabbard was, such as Nevada and South Carolina.

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[24 February 2020]

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[22 February 2020]

Hillary Clinton slanders Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, Green Party candidate Jill Stein as Russian spies

[Mar 03, 2020] Why is Tulsi Gabbard Still In The Race by Pam Ho

Notable quotes:
"... Biden and Warren are both enthusiastic supporters of neocon foreign policy which is in line with their phony support for the working class. What happened to Warren's glittering M4A plan? It turned back into a pumpkin didn't it? It was all smoke and mirrors. No surprise if you know her history. ..."
"... Imperial Borg Assimilation ..."
"... The Foreign Policy Establishment ..."
"... Warren is an establishment social climber. She took off the mask and her true colors shone through when she viciously attacked Bernie Sanders as a misogynist. Yet still many people surrounding the Sander's campaign support Warren. Why is that? Big money on the left supports her, that's why. That big money also pays a lot of salaries in the liberal political job market. Have you heard of the The Democracy Alliance ? ..."
"... Why do so many liberals or even progressives dislike Tulsi and are so eager to see her gone? Propaganda from the media. The media for a year has relentlessly promoted Red Baiting towards Tulsi because Tulsi challenges the "Washington Consensus" (unfettered elite rule over America and the world with an iron fist). ..."
"... Everyone in the pro-Israel lobby (myself included) is already talking about how to make sure that Tulsi Gabbard's campaign is over before it even gets off the ground -- If you're going to bet on a Dem candidate, look elsewhere. ..."
"... There are many reasons behind that. The main reason though is Tulsi trying to stop war. The Neocons and Saudis have been pushing American politicians, celebrities, media owners, think tanks, foundations and so on for years -- to destroy Syria. Supposedly because Syria is close allies with Iran. ..."
Mar 03, 2020 | medium.com

As I was checking the news earlier today I noticed that the coronavirus had killed another top government official in Iran, bringing the total to 3. Or at least the 3 they have released info on. There's a chance it's worse among the Iranian leadership but they don't want to cause a panic. I checked the Twitterverse after that for my daily dose of madness and surprisingly kept seeing people ask rhetorically:

Why is Tulsi Gabbard still in the primary race?

Turns out that Amy "She Hulk" Klobuchar had dropped out of the primary race apparently to suck up to Joe Biden for a VP slot. And so had Pete "Honestly I'm Not Annoying" Buttigigieididisjjd. This of course should surprise no one since the threat of Bernie Sanders to the financial criminal syndicates greasing the palms of practically all politicians and media to do their bidding have seen the writing on the wall. They realize they need candidates to drop out in order to coalesce centrist votes around one or two to stop what they perceive to be a huge problem for them in Bernie Sanders.

... ... ...

Biden and Warren are both enthusiastic supporters of neocon foreign policy which is in line with their phony support for the working class. What happened to Warren's glittering M4A plan? It turned back into a pumpkin didn't it? It was all smoke and mirrors. No surprise if you know her history. Did you see her on Pod Save America regaling us with how much she believes in crippling countries by sanctions if they dare to resist the racist Imperial Borg Assimilation Machine aka The Foreign Policy Establishment ? That doesn't sound woke to me Miss Thang .

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Warren is an establishment social climber. She took off the mask and her true colors shone through when she viciously attacked Bernie Sanders as a misogynist. Yet still many people surrounding the Sander's campaign support Warren. Why is that? Big money on the left supports her, that's why. That big money also pays a lot of salaries in the liberal political job market. Have you heard of the The Democracy Alliance ?

The Democracy Alliance is a semi-anonymous donor network funded primarily by none other than Democratic mega-donor George Soros. Since its inception in 2005, it is estimated the Alliance has injected over $500 million to Democratic causes. While it isn't typical that they would endorse a candidate outright, they focus more on formulating a catalog of organizations and PACs that they recommend the network of about 100 or so millionaires and billionaires invest in. Democracy Alliance almost literally have their hands in every major left-leaning institution you have (and haven't) heard of -- John Podesta and Neera Tanden's Center for American Progress, David Brock's Media Matters, Center for Popular Democracy, Demos (we'll come back to this one), and the Working Families Party. All of these organizations are listed on the Alliance's website as recommended investments for it's members; and invest they do. Here's the rub: Democracy Alliance's membership isn't made entirely public -- but we know enough that alot of the people that have sat in the highest levels of that organization have an affinity for Elizabeth Warren.


... ... ...

Why do so many liberals or even progressives dislike Tulsi and are so eager to see her gone? Propaganda from the media. The media for a year has relentlessly promoted Red Baiting towards Tulsi because Tulsi challenges the "Washington Consensus" (unfettered elite rule over America and the world with an iron fist).

That is why we got this from Jacob Wohl after Tulsi declared her candidacy last year:

Everyone in the pro-Israel lobby (myself included) is already talking about how to make sure that Tulsi Gabbard's campaign is over before it even gets off the ground -- If you're going to bet on a Dem candidate, look elsewhere.

There are many reasons behind that. The main reason though is Tulsi trying to stop war. The Neocons and Saudis have been pushing American politicians, celebrities, media owners, think tanks, foundations and so on for years -- to destroy Syria. Supposedly because Syria is close allies with Iran.

But they are not the only ones who want Syria destroyed. Other reasons may have to do with massive profits at stake. A natural gas survey team from Norway some years ago discovered that Syria has the largest untapped deposits of natural gas in the world . After that secret discovery became known by various powerful people plans were drawn up to split up the profits after the destruction of the Syrian government. But after Syria asked Russia for help that changed their plans.

Tulsi meanwhile kept going on CNN to tell the American people that our government was waging a secret war in Syria by giving advanced weapons to Al-Qaeda in order to help them topple the government. America, Israel , and the Saudis weren't the only ones with a plan for Syria. Turkey and Qatar had their own plans. The UK and other leading EU nations had a plan as well . And the only politician in any of those countries telling the public the truth of what was going on -- was Tulsi.

... ... ...

She is not having our country become a plaything for rich a-holes who use the lives and limbs of service members for their greedy scams. Because of that the idle rich sociopaths ruling America with their political and media henchmen went after Tulsi with a full barrage of lies , media blackouts, and massive amounts of propaganda -- all to stop her message from getting out so they can create a false image of her in people's minds. Everything and anything they can throw at her, they do.

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There are two politicians whom they fear. Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. Which is why Bernie Sanders has unsurprisingly been trying to stay out of the foreign policy debate, or he even goes along with the establishment for the most part. He saw what they unleashed against Tulsi. He knows from long experience that propaganda works on a lot of people. The financial elites are not naive though, they probably believe he is going along with their ridiculous foreign policy as a political strategy -- until he gains more power. They fear that if he gains that power he will, like Tulsi, not go along with their imperial stormtrooper agenda.

[Mar 03, 2020] The Democratic Party oligarchy are the world champions at every sort of electoral malfeasance

Mar 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Mar 3 2020 18:04 utc | 25

The thing to watch today will be the vote stealing by the Democrat oligarchy. They are the world champions at every sort of electoral malfeasance. Remember in 2016 how Bernie almost won New York until Brooklyn, his hometown, was counted and more than 20,000 voters disappeared? Then there was California where millions of votes went uncounted and Hillary was called the winner.


The Democrats are not really a political party in the sense that europeans understand the term, more like an agglomeration of electoral machines, controlled by politicians owned by vested interests, making up the rules as they go along.

With both Biden and Warren desperate for anything that can be portrayed as momentum expect the unexpected: repeats of the sort of nonsense we saw in Iowa and local precincts in which 110% of the electorate give unanimous support to the candidate most likely to take away their social security and wave 'bye-bye' as they die untreated of diseases. Or malnutrition.
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nd the cherry on top of the electoral sundae in today's primaries will be the near unanimity with which the most glaring irregularities are ignored by the media, and anyone suggesting that 2+2= anything as predictable as 4 will be called a conspiracy theorist, working for Putin and the KGB.

[Mar 03, 2020] "Predatory capitalism", which clearly describes what neoliberalism is.

Highly recommended!
Mar 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

chu teh , Mar 4 2020 0:50 utc | 80

Tonymike | Mar 3 2020 18:08 utc | 26

re ... Your house foreclosed upon by shady bank: naked capitalism, .0001% paid on interest savings: naked capitalism, poor wages: naked capitalism, dangerous workplace: naked capitalism, etc. ...

"naked capitalism" is not a clear description. Consider using "predatory capitalism", which clearly describes what it is.

Here's the Wiki dictionary definition:

Predatory--

1. relating to or denoting an animal or animals preying naturally on others.
synonyms: predacious, carnivorous, hunting, raptorial, ravening;
Example: "predatory birds".

2. seeking to exploit or oppress others.
synonyms: exploitative, wolfish, rapacious, greedy, acquisitive, avaricious
Example: "I could see a predatory gleam in his eyes"

Note where the word comes from:
The Latin "praedator", in English meaning "plunderer".

And "plunderer" helps the reader understand and perhaps recognize what is happening.

Every plunderer understands.

[Mar 02, 2020] Semi-senile Biden is now so Presidential and is the best candidate forward

However, we do need to raise questions about election anomalies. Journalists should be focused on the DNC is cheating Bernie and, by extension, the American people. It must be recorded. It should be investigated. The first 4 primary contests account for only 4% of all allocated delegates, yet have a hugely disproportionate influence on the race. Of those 4 states, only NV is roughly in synch with the national demographic profile.
The whole primary system needs a major overhaul. It takes too long and costs too much (e.g., all the wasted $$ Steyer and Tulsi spent in SC). It's an embarrassing wasteful spectacle which only enriches the MSM and hired political consultant hacks. Most voters don't bother to tune in until 10-12 months into the marathon campaign. I would blow it all up and start over from scratch.
Mar 02, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

. @DWStweets endorses @JoeBiden .
"It was a very easy decision," she said. "We need to make sure that we put the best candidate forward." https://t.co/0uIvUBxlQp

-- Anthony Man (@browardpolitics) March 1, 2020

[Mar 01, 2020] Hollywood Goes Full Blacklist and Fails to Grasp the Irony by Larry C Johnson

Notable quotes:
"... It is especially galling to see how the Hollywood Community has embraced the era of red-baiting Joseph McCarthy as the new standard for what is acceptable. There was a time that a few brave souls in Hollywood (I am thinking Lucille Ball, Kirk Douglas and Gregory Peck), spoke out against the blacklisting of actors, writers and directors for their past political ties to the Soviet Union. ..."
"... This was an ugly, awful and evil time in America. It was a period of time fed by fear and ignorance. While it is true that there were Americans who identified as Communists and embraced the politics of the Soviet Union, we scared ourselves into believing that communist subversion was everywhere and that America was teetering on the brink of being submerged in a red tide. ..."
"... Hillary Clinton's crazy rant accusing U.S. Army Major and Member of Congress, Tulsi Gabbard, as a Kremlin puppet is not a deviation from the norm. Clinton exemplifies the terrifying norm of the political and cultural elite in this country. Accusing political opponents of being controlled by foreign enemies, real or imagined, is an old political tactic. Makes me wonder what Edward R. Murrow or Dalton Trumbo would say if we could bring them back from the dead. ..."
"... "Hillary Clinton's crazy rant accusing U.S. Army Major and Member of Congress, Tulsi Gabbard, as a Kremlin puppet is not a deviation from the norm." ..."
"... Ms. President is the closest facsimile to Lady Macbeth that American politics has been able to produce. She'd have murdered her own husband if she had thought succession would have fallen to her. As it was, the only thing that kept him alive was that she needed him for the run she had in mind for herself. The debris that this woman has left in her wake boggles the mind. That she came within a whisker of the job where she would perhaps have left the country in that debris field is a sobering thought to think about what American presidential politics has become in the 21st c. Alas, what passes for her failure and the Country's good fortune, her loved ones in the Arts are still not over. And so they are left commiserating and caterwauling over the Donald this, and the Donald that, while all this good material and their celebrity goes down the tube. Good riddance to them both. ..."
"... Trump campaigned on Drain the Swamp in 2016. The Swamp attempted to take him down with the Russia Collusion hoax that included Spygate and the Mueller special counsel investigation. ..."
Feb 14, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

In the wake of the latest Hollywood buffoonery displayed at the Oscars, I think it is time for the American public to denounce in the strongest possible terms the rampant hypocrisy of sanctimonious cretins who make their living pretending to be someone other than themselves. Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix and Barbara Streisand pop to mind as representative examples. All three are eager to lecture the American public on the need for equality and non-discrimination. Yet, not one of the recipients of the Oscar gift bags worth $225,000 spoke out against that extraordinary excess nor demanded that the money spent purchasing these "gifts" be used to benefit the poor and the homeless. Nope, take the money and run.

It is especially galling to see how the Hollywood Community has embraced the era of red-baiting Joseph McCarthy as the new standard for what is acceptable. There was a time that a few brave souls in Hollywood (I am thinking Lucille Ball, Kirk Douglas and Gregory Peck), spoke out against the blacklisting of actors, writers and directors for their past political ties to the Soviet Union.

Now I have lived long enough to see the so-called liberals in Hollywood rail against Donald Trump and his supporters as "agents of Russia." Many in Hollywood, who weep crocodile tears over the abuses of the Hollywood Blacklist, are now doing the same damn thing without a hint of irony.

If you are a film buff (and I consider myself one) you should be familiar with these great movies that remind the viewer of the horrors visited upon actors, writers and directors during the Hollywood Blacklist:

This was an ugly, awful and evil time in America. It was a period of time fed by fear and ignorance. While it is true that there were Americans who identified as Communists and embraced the politics of the Soviet Union, we scared ourselves into believing that communist subversion was everywhere and that America was teetering on the brink of being submerged in a red tide.

Thirty years ago I reflected on this era and wondered how such mass hysteria could happen. Now I know. We have lived with the same kind of madness since Donald Trump was tagged as a Russian agent in the summer of 2016. And the irony is extraordinary. The very same Hollywood elite that heaped opprobrium on Director Elia Kazan for naming names in Hollywood in front of the House UnAmerican Activities Committee, are now leading the charge in labeling anyone who dares speak out against the failed coup as "stooges" of the Kremlin or Putin.

Hillary Clinton's crazy rant accusing U.S. Army Major and Member of Congress, Tulsi Gabbard, as a Kremlin puppet is not a deviation from the norm. Clinton exemplifies the terrifying norm of the political and cultural elite in this country. Accusing political opponents of being controlled by foreign enemies, real or imagined, is an old political tactic. Makes me wonder what Edward R. Murrow or Dalton Trumbo would say if we could bring them back from the dead.


Bill H , 11 February 2020 at 10:20 AM

Very well said. And I would extend the same opprobrium to those who label as "racist" anyone who does not agree with their open border policies. Etc.
plantman , 11 February 2020 at 10:32 AM
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a vast understatement. You never could have convinced me 4 years ago that virtually all of my liberal friends would have completely lost touch with reality due to their visceral hatred of one man.

It no longer matters if you agree with people on social policy, entitlements, student loans, homelessness, drug addiction or even wealth distribution.

If you do not share their irrational hatred of Trump, you're going to be lambasted, shunned and treated like a pariah.

I've never seen anything like it. It's whacko!

Jim Henely , 11 February 2020 at 10:34 AM
Hillary Clinton has become the poster child for the corruption that has captured and paralyzed our political parties and government institutions. Why is she above prosecution? Is the corruption complete? Can we look to any individual or group to restore our Republic? Wake me when the prosecutions begin.
Flavius , 11 February 2020 at 11:35 AM
"Hillary Clinton's crazy rant accusing U.S. Army Major and Member of Congress, Tulsi Gabbard, as a Kremlin puppet is not a deviation from the norm."

Ms. President is the closest facsimile to Lady Macbeth that American politics has been able to produce. She'd have murdered her own husband if she had thought succession would have fallen to her. As it was, the only thing that kept him alive was that she needed him for the run she had in mind for herself. The debris that this woman has left in her wake boggles the mind. That she came within a whisker of the job where she would perhaps have left the country in that debris field is a sobering thought to think about what American presidential politics has become in the 21st c. Alas, what passes for her failure and the Country's good fortune, her loved ones in the Arts are still not over. And so they are left commiserating and caterwauling over the Donald this, and the Donald that, while all this good material and their celebrity goes down the tube. Good riddance to them both.

Dave Schuler , 11 February 2020 at 12:32 PM
I agree that HUAC's conduct was excessive but you really ought to show the other side of the coin as well.
  1. Communism was genuinely awful. To this day we don't know how many people died, murdered by their own governments, in Soviet Russia and Communist China.
  2. The U. S. government was infiltrated at the very pinnacle of government (as in presidential advisors) by Soviet agents. We know this from Kremlin documents.
  3. We now know (based on Kremlin documents) that the American Communist Party was run by knowing Soviet agents and was funded by the Soviet Union.
  4. The motion picture industry had been heavily infiltrated by Communists including some actual Soviet agents (while Reagan was head of SAG he rooted them out).

We resolved those issues the wrong way but they desperately needed to be resolved.

Vegetius , 11 February 2020 at 02:04 PM
>This was an ugly, awful and evil time in America

This is self-righteous baby boomer nonsense. It was a brief and slightly uncomfortable time for a handful of people in Hollywood, after which the subversion of American culture and institutions chugged along merrily along to the present day.

But this episode has been re-purposed and often reduced to caricature as part of a long ideological project aimed at convincing generations of otherwise intelligent white people that their past is a shameful parade of villains.

They don't call it 'programming' for nothing.

optimax , 11 February 2020 at 03:53 PM
Kirk Douglas bravely defied the blacklist by giving Dalton Trumbo credit on Spartacus under his real name, effectively breaking the blacklist.

I saw part of the Academy Awards and all I heard over and over again were the words race and gender, no female directors nominated.

On a side note, this being Black History month, teevee is usually filled with the appropriate programing. But because it is the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Aushwitz the Jews are stealing the Blacks thunder by hogging the programming. When the oppressed collide.

Fred , 11 February 2020 at 04:02 PM
Just how big is the carbon footprint on a $225,000 swag bag? So nice to see Hollywood integrity in action. I wonder what the Bernie Tax will be on them in 2021?
bjd , 11 February 2020 at 04:16 PM
Chills run down my spine that you start your list with 'The Front'.

Woody Allen's 'The Front', a 'film noir' about the beast and about courage in trying to slay it, is an absolute masterpiece, its end is unmeasurably spectacular and encouraging, and... somehow the movie never got the acclaim it deserves, and lives as one of those quiet orphans.

But it is highly actual, and that is why you must have come to place it first.

Thank you for naming it. Extremely recommended.

blue peacock , 11 February 2020 at 07:26 PM
Trump campaigned on Drain the Swamp in 2016. The Swamp attempted to take him down with the Russia Collusion hoax that included Spygate and the Mueller special counsel investigation.

Rep. Devin Nunes uncovered many of the shenanigans while he investigated the claims of Russian interference in the 2016 election. He implored Trump to use his prerogative as POTUS to declassify many documents and communications. Trump instead took the advice of Rod Rosenstein acting as AG who initiated the Mueller investigation and did not declassify. He then passed the buck to AG Barr, who has yet to declassify.

The question that needs to be asked in light of this: Is Trump a conman who has duped the electorate with Drain the Swamp as he has not used his exclusive powers of classification to present to the voter all the documents and communications about the actions of law enforcement and intelligence agencies relating to claims about Russian influence operations during the 2016 election?

Fred , 11 February 2020 at 08:13 PM
Blue,

Maybe Trump conned the swamp into outing themselves, which hasn't proven that hard since they have even bigger ego's than he.

D , 11 February 2020 at 09:39 PM
Blue Peacock, the question that needs to be asked is do you blow your wad all at once on one play. Or do you drip, drip, drip it out strategically. I suggest the latter in this endless game of gotcha politics. Yes, Trump is a con man. That is how he made his billions - selling sizzle. One quality that does translate well into the political arena. No one is surprised - his life has been on the front pages for decades.

The only newly revealed quality that I find remarkable is his remarkable staying power - the most welcome quality of all. It takes ego maniacs to play this game. Surprised anyone still thinks politics is an avocation for normal people. It isn't. And we the people are the ones that demand this to be the case.

Sol Invictus , 11 February 2020 at 10:30 PM
I left the american sh*thole a long time ago and my choice never felt better. I look forward to seeing 50% of americans trying to slaughter the other 50% over socialism. Here we're doing just fine with socialist medecine, and social programs for just about everyting. The Commons are still viable where common sense resides... Oligarchs love cartels, socialism and piratization: it's all about privatizing the gains and socializing the losses to the hoi polloi.
james , 12 February 2020 at 12:35 AM
blue peacock... does an alligator want to drain the swamp? the answer is no... that is just a lot of hokum for the naive or illiterate...
james , 12 February 2020 at 12:36 AM
@ sol... your first sentence is pretty harsh and more of a reflection on you then anything else..
anon , 12 February 2020 at 02:26 AM
Great movie "the front". As to draining the swamp, well trump has to finish the job and here lies the problem. Once done what do you put in its place.

Bernie of course.

Diana Croissant , 12 February 2020 at 10:11 AM
I wonder if Hollywood knows how small some of the audiences in actual movie theaters are now. It's always surprising to me that I am sitting in almost empty theaters now when I decide I want actual movie theater popcorn and so will pay to watch a movie that I have read about and heard about from friends who have already seen the movie. I don't attend unless I've heard good things from my friends about the movie.


I am constantly surprised that some people even consider watching the Oscars now. I feel the same about professional sports.

You would be surprised at how good high school plays are and how good high school bands, orchestras, choirs are. The tickets are cheap, and a person actually gets to greet the performers.

I feel the same about my local university (my Alma Mater). It's Performing Arts departments are excellent. As a student long ago, my student pass allowed me to attend wonderful performances.

The Glory Days of Hollywood are no more. The actors and directors need to be humbled by having to go to towns across the country to see how sparse the audience in a movie theater is now. It's not at all as I remember as a child when there were long lines at the ticket window.

[Feb 29, 2020] Another Wasteful, Unnecessary War

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We are an oil company, with an Army: Tulsi Gabbard talks IRAN with Guests Stephen Kinzer & Dennis Kucinich Posted


prairiedog 97p · 4 hours ago

So she was fooled into thinking Iraq had something to do withe 9/11?
Guess she couldn't figure out buildings never fall at free fall speed unless they have demolition charges set in them.
joed 42p · 3 hours ago
Hello Prairiedog,
Do you know why my comments are not accepted or shown here?
I replied to your comment with my comment that is not being accepted here.
I see you have a high ratting so i thought you may have an idea about accepted comments. what am I doing wrong?!
penrose256 75p · 1 hour ago
Where are all of the scientists who should know better? When are they going to stage a massive march on Washington?
USAInc1871 91p · 2 hours ago
The basic question in a corporation , such as USA Inc, is it profitable.

That is the beginning and the end.

The owners own you, and you are willing goyim.

[Feb 29, 2020] Pompeo lies and smokescreen

Pompeo has just four terms in the House of Representives befor getting postions of Director of CIA (whichsuggests previous involvement with CIA) and then paradoxically the head of the State Department, He retired from the alry in the rank of comptain and never participated in any battles. He serves only in Germany, and this can be classified as a chickenhawk. He never performed any dyplomatic duries in hs life and a large part of his adult life (1998-2006) was a greddy military contractor.
Jan 07, 2020 | www.truthdig.com

UN Special Rapporteur on Extra-Judicial Executions Agnes Callamard tweeted,

#Pentagon statement on targeted killing of #suleimani :

1. It mentions that it aimed at "deterring future Iranian attack plans". This however is very vague. Future is not the same as imminent which is the time based test required under international law. (1)

-- Agnes Callamard (@AgnesCallamard) January 3, 2020

2. Overall, the statement places far greater emphasis on past activities and violations allegedly commuted by Suleimani. As such the killing appears far more retaliatory for past acts than anticipatory for imminent self defense.

-- Agnes Callamard (@AgnesCallamard) January 3, 2020

3. The notion that Suleimani was "actively developing plans" is curious both from a semantic and military standpoint. Is it sufficient to meet the test of mecessity and proportionality?

-- Agnes Callamard (@AgnesCallamard) January 3, 2020

4. The statement fails to mention the other individuals killed alongside Suleimani. Collateral? Probably. Unlawful. Absolutely.

-- Agnes Callamard (@AgnesCallamard) January 3, 2020

[Feb 29, 2020] Covid-19 is probably 3 times more contagios that a "regular" flu

Feb 29, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Sackerson , Feb 29 2020 19:47 utc | 2

...focus on precautions, preparations and resources for the elderly and those with certain chronic health conditions.
https://theylaughedatnoah.blogspot.com/2020/02/covid-19-keep-calm-and-make-plan.html

Krollchem , Feb 29 2020 19:57 utc | 4

Tulsi Gabbard on why politics as usual must be discarded in order to prevent a public health crisis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj_tMTmZn-U&t=95s
Ilya Grushevskiy , Feb 29 2020 20:33 utc | 17
@14

The risk is limited - this kills the old and infirm.

MOA was accurate in all the panic - China controlled its initial outbreak (although a re-entry is not unlikely imo). That the rest of the world didn't react fast enough, is expected though, but saying that before it was a thing would have been unnecessarily scare-mongering I'd say.

Jackrabbit , Feb 29 2020 22:26 utc | 42
Normal flu has R0 of about 1.3

Los Alamos Labs calculates Covid-19 R0 at between 4.7 to 6.6.

Bottomline: Covid-19 is much easier to spread / quick to spread.

!!

CJ , Feb 29 2020 22:15 utc | 38
Hi B,
looks like the guys at New England Biolabs have a very rapid assay for COVID-19 --- Rapid Molecular Detection of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Virus RNA Using Colorimetric LAMP

Yinhua Zhang, Nelson Odiwuor, Jin Xiong, Luo Sun, Raphael Ohuru Nyaruaba, Hongping Wei, Nathan A Tanner

Its a preprint -- but this is the way to go an isothermal loop mediated amplification (LAMP) assay. You ought to be able to get a result in about 30 minutes -- faster once they really automate it. Should cost virtually nothing a few cents.

Other versions of it might be adapted so you can use them in the field so a general practitioner or even a soldier will be able to make the diagnosis at the bed side-- its a simple color change in a tube. All you need is a pipette the assay tube a hot block and a timer. True positive rate 99.99% false positive about 1% or less. This what the CDC needs. Problem is that they have to mass produce the assay tubes -- we need 100 million like yesterday. The other thing is that we might need martial law to quarantine people and we need to train people to use the kits and fast.

All the best
CJ

Venom , Feb 29 2020 22:16 utc | 39
All of a sudden, "freedom isn't free" axiom acquires a really macabre meaning. The inevitable devastation in countries with laissez-faire approach to this emergency will eventually prove "totalitarian" Chinese measures as being vastly superior.
The US will undoubtedly - if grudgingly - adopt Beijing MO, but only after hundreds of thousands of people die needlessly, and America's healthcare system falls apart under the pressure of millions of patients unable to pay exorbitant bills.
oldhippie , Feb 29 2020 22:26 utc | 43
The American mind does not know what "public health" is.

"Public health" is not a thinkable thought. b's paragraph beginning with "Tests must be freely available..." is a sequence of events that cannot exist even in fiction in America. Only someone who has never lived here could write that paragraph. None of b's suggestions are happening. And because these simple measures cannot happen, a price will be paid.

Spike , Feb 29 2020 22:54 utc | 46
The overreaction to this will cause much, much more damage than the virus would have if it were responded to in a conventional, sensible way. Those in positions of responsibility are terrified of underreacting, and it's easy to rationalize that it's better to be safe than sorry.

If measures taken cause unnecessary disruption, if they increase the level of stress, the levels of disease and the amount of death will rise rather than fall. There is more to disease than just microbes.

This is not to say that we should be laissez-faire. Our response to the yearly outbreak of the flu is, in my opinion, insufficient. Schools are an unprecedented institution of prolonged propinquity. Children go to school, are with their classmates in enclosed rooms all day, and bring the disease home. Children survive, but grandma and grandpa might not. Schools can be shuttered during outbreaks, and the technology exists, at least for the relatively fortunate, to continue the instruction online. People should also be encouraged to avoid stressful prolonged propinquity situations such as travel on planes, trains, and interstate buses.

It's occurred to me that the death rate statistics might be misleading. Since China closed their schools, one can assume that the disease rate among children fell substantially. However, elderly people who live in care facilities, which is a high density living situation, would not enjoy the falling infection rate, and they are exactly the population most susceptible to a fatal outcome. This alone, perhaps, might make the death rate higher for COVID19 than for the flu.

Here, I think, is a very good take.


jadan , Feb 29 2020 22:56 utc | 47
The US healthcare system, the privatized system of exploitation of the sick for greater investor profits, is not capable of dealing with a pandemic. Trump and his gang of thieves, charlatans, and unapologetically incompetent followers of Ayn Rand and graduates of the Koch Brothers University, will prevent the socialization of medicine if they possibly can. Will a future cover of Time Magazine show them all hanging from lamp posts?

Whether this pandemic provokes the rapture of Pence & his 144,000 elect and the much anticipated End Times, or whether it fizzles out, I do heartily wish for one outcome: the disenfranchisement of Donald J Trump, his heirs & assigns, and all those who seem unable to smell the stink of his bullshit.

Thank you Jesus! Amen.

Pft , Feb 29 2020 21:53 utc | 33
Jackrabbit@30

CDC estimates 30 million flu cases each year with 30,000 deaths and 500,000 hospitalizations. I think we are a long way from any real concern. The US is nowhere near as polluted or densely populated as China. Also, I don't think we know how the disease spreads among non Asians. They are keeping that under wraps. Aside from those captives on the cruise ship there really has not been much spread from those who returned from China (visitors or citizens).

Mark2 , Feb 29 2020 21:12 utc | 26
Let s see America pass the 'Build a 2000 bed hospital in ten day test.
... ... ...
Krollchem , Feb 29 2020 21:12 utc | 24
Russ@ 12

Agreed that the US leadership is clueless and their thrashing around in order to protect corporate capitalism is xenophobic and dangerous to the world. Came across this research on a plant bioflavonoid that you might find useful in the treatment of SARS COV-1 (aka COVID-19).

Michel Chretien is setting up trials for combatting COVID-19 using a derivative of quercetin, which is a natural anti-inflammatory plant component.
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/a-made-in-canada-solution-to-the-coronavirus-outbreak/

In depth interview of this research in Canadian French:
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1538011/quercetine-coronavirus-michel-chretien-ircm-montreal-patrice-roy

Dr. Michel Chretien's background and research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H0VJZG2Pjk

Quercetin and the mixture of isoquercitrin have already been found to suppress the arthropod-borne Mayaro virus (MAYV) occurring in forested areas in tropical South America:
https://parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-3305-7-130

Numerous other research articles on plant bioflavonoids such as Quercetin are readily available in the medical literature.

stephen laudig , Feb 29 2020 20:47 utc | 20
It's always Groundhog Day in the USA.
It's always late August 2005.
It's always New Orleans.
It's always Hurricane Katrina [or something else] on the horizon.
It's always a Republican Administration in power.
Who needs external enemies when we have such internal incompetents available to do the work of sabotage?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film)
Russ , Feb 29 2020 20:21 utc | 12
Neither Reps nor Dems are psychologically capable even of conceiving the kinds of measures the post calls for. Trump's stooge already proclaimed that profit is the one and only goal of any response ("the market must decide"), while the Dem leadership as well can speak and think only in terms of making care "affordable", IOW the main purpose of the whole process still has to be corporate control and profit, even if a few stray Dems do want government to subsidize some victims. The purpose still is money changing hands, profit, commerce. Until the Big One levels the karma of this place that will never change.

It seems almost like fate is teeing up one practice play each time, just to show the US how hollowed out it is, before the real play begins. First was the Iranian reprisal strike which could have been so much more devastating. And now, although it's too early to tell how severe this pest ultimately will be, it looks so far like it won't completely cleanse the place. But if so that won't be for the lack of the US economic and cultural system giving it every opportunity it can use.

I have no doubt the US learns zero from either test case. By now the US is too berserk and stupid to deduce anything from its very survival than confirmation of the excellence of its policy and encouragement to further escalate and accelerate.

Trailer Trash , Feb 29 2020 19:59 utc | 6
The idea that Uncle Sam will do something useful and timely is simply laughable. I have been mostly housebound due to severe illness for the past five years. Imagine a five year quarantine! In all that time I have had zero social support besides receiving a disability pension. I hire a personal shopper every two weeks to bring groceries; everything else comes via UPS or FedEx. I frequently go two weeks at a time and never see anyone except maybe a delivery driver.

There is no system to take care of housebound people. For me there is no medical personal to make housecalls, no social support, no personal care workers, nothing. And this at a time when nationwide there are only small numbers of people like myself. Multiply this non-system by 100 or 1000 and people will die at home and no one will even notice.

Uncle Sam's Day of Reckoning may be fast approaching. And we will have well-earned every bit of suffering headed our way.

Ilya G Poimandres , Feb 29 2020 19:59 utc | 5
Funny thing, b was right - China (and online deliveries as well really) managed to snuff the spread out well, and it seems that the rest of the world and their 'representative bureaucracies' will show all how limited they are when a fast acting 'unknown unknown' (Rummy, how you made sense here!) does its thing.

[Feb 28, 2020] Chas Freeman America in Distress The Challenges of Disadvantageous Change

Highly recommended!
I think everybody should listen the initial 47 minutes
Notable quotes:
"... Wanted to add that the malaise that is gripping the U.S. institutions is completely visible, it is not the opaque and obsequies portrait drawn by the punditry, news organizations, and elites. Seems most obvious to those of us outside the beltway that can clearly delineate between the failure of DC and the projections and marketing to the population that passes as wonky prose. Stupidity lacks the clarity, but brings the temerity making the facade not so subtle. ..."
"... Literally the only endorsement I've heard of Tulsi Gabbard - and a strikingly convincing one ..."
"... Isn't it just a question of the profits in the military business? ..."
Feb 24, 2020 | www.youtube.com

https://youtu.be/mvILLCbOFo4

In the United States and other democracies, political and economic systems still work in theory, but not in practice. Meanwhile, the American-led takedown of the post-World War II international system has shattered long-standing rules and norms of behavior. The combination of disorder at home and abroad is spawning changes that are increasingly disadvantageous to the United States. With Congress having essentially walked off the job, there is a need for America's universities to provide the information and analysis of international best practices that the political system does not.

Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. is a senior fellow at Brown University's Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, a former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense, ambassador to Saudi Arabia (during operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm), acting Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, and Chargé d'affaires at both Bangkok and Beijing. He began his diplomatic career in India but specialized in Chinese affairs. (He was the principal American interpreter during President Nixon's visit to Beijing in 1972.)

Ambassador Freeman is a much sought-after public speaker (see http://chasfreeman.net ) and the author of several well-received books on statecraft and diplomacy. His most recent book, America's Continuing Misadventures in the Middle East was published in May 2016. Interesting Times: China, America, and the Shifting Balance of Prestige, appeared in March 2013. America's Misadventures in the Middle East came out in 2010, as did the most recent revision of The Diplomat's Dictionary, the companion volume to Arts of Power: Statecraft and Diplomacy. He was the editor of the Encyclopedia Britannica entry on "diplomacy."

Chas Freeman studied at the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México and in Taiwan, and earned an AB magna cum laude from Yale University as well as a JD from the Harvard Law School. He chairs Projects International, Inc., a Washington-based firm that for more than three decades has helped its American and foreign clients create ventures across borders, facilitating their establishment of new businesses through the design, negotiation, capitalization, and implementation of greenfield investments, mergers and acquisitions, joint ventures, franchises, one-off transactions, sales and agencies in other countries.


Trade Prosper , 3 days ago (edited)

Well worth the watch and hope more see it, especially the presentation in the initial 47 minutes. We Americans take our deficits and the $ as the reserve currency far too lightly.

strezztechnoid , 2 days ago

Wanted to add that the malaise that is gripping the U.S. institutions is completely visible, it is not the opaque and obsequies portrait drawn by the punditry, news organizations, and elites. Seems most obvious to those of us outside the beltway that can clearly delineate between the failure of DC and the projections and marketing to the population that passes as wonky prose. Stupidity lacks the clarity, but brings the temerity making the facade not so subtle.

yes it's me , 3 days ago

Literally the only endorsement I've heard of Tulsi Gabbard - and a strikingly convincing one

Bob Trajkoski , 3 days ago

Way the US is Warmongering state and threat to humanity, on the planet.? Nukes in the hand's of gangsters

strezztechnoid , 2 days ago (edited)

No, not mercenaries, this is a protection racket. The U.N. address in late 2018 by the President (the laughter spoke volumes) was about as insightful as a "goodfellas" scene where the shakedown of the little guy is highlighted. It was the speeches by other countries at the meeting that was most informative.

A definitive pullback from U.S. hegemony was palpable, real, and un-moderated. Large and small countries all expressed an unwillingness to be held under the thumb of the global bully. This is the result of having an over abundance of a particle within D.C.; not the electron, photon, or neutron...but the moron.

Frank , 3 days ago

Aura of imperial purpose.

Dan Good , 7 hours ago

Isn't it just a question of the profits in the military business?

[Feb 27, 2020] Qasem Soleimani - Wikipedia

Jan 06, 2020 | en.wikipedia.org

Orchestration of military escalation in 2015 In 2015, Soleimani started to gather support from various sources in order to combat the newly resurgent ISIL and rebel groups which were both successful in taking large swathes of territory away from Assad's forces. He was reportedly the main architect of the joint intervention involving Russia as a new partner with Assad and Hezbollah. In 2015, Soleimani started to gather support from various sources in order to combat the newly resurgent ISIL and rebel groups which were both successful in taking large swathes of territory away from Assad's forces. He was reportedly the main architect of the joint intervention involving Russia as a new partner with Assad and Hezbollah. [47] [48] [49] [50]

According to Reuters, at a meeting in Moscow in July, Soleimani unfurled a map of Syria to explain to his Russian hosts how a series of defeats for President Bashar al-Assad could be turned into victory – with Russia's help. Qasem Soleimani's visit to Moscow was the first step in planning for a Russian military intervention that has reshaped the Syrian war and forged a new According to Reuters, at a meeting in Moscow in July, Soleimani unfurled a map of Syria to explain to his Russian hosts how a series of defeats for President Bashar al-Assad could be turned into victory – with Russia's help. Qasem Soleimani's visit to Moscow was the first step in planning for a Russian military intervention that has reshaped the Syrian war and forged a new According to Reuters, at a meeting in Moscow in July, Soleimani unfurled a map of Syria to explain to his Russian hosts how a series of defeats for President Bashar al-Assad could be turned into victory – with Russia's help.

Qasem Soleimani's visit to Moscow was the first step in planning for a Russian military intervention that has reshaped the Syrian war and forged a new Iran–Russia alliance in support of the Syrian (and Iraqi) governments. Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khamenei also sent a senior envoy to Moscow to meet President Vladimir Putin. "Putin reportedly told [a senior Iranian envoy] 'Okay we will intervene. Send Qassem Soleimani.'" General Soleimani went to explain the map of the theatre and coordinate the strategic escalation of military forces in Syria. [49]

Operations in Aleppo
Map of the 2015 Aleppo offensives. [51] [52] [53] [54] [55] [56]

Soleimani had a decisive impact on the theater of operations, which led to a strong advance in southern Aleppo with the government and allied forces re-capturing two military bases and dozens of towns and villages in a matter of weeks. There was also a series of major advances towards Kuweiris air-base to the north-east. [57] By mid-November, the Syrian army and its allies had gained ground in southern areas of Aleppo Governorate, capturing numerous rebel strongholds. Soleimani was reported to have personally led the drive deep into the southern Aleppo countryside where many towns and villages fell into government hands. He reportedly commanded the Syrian Arab Army's 4th Mechanized Division, Hezbollah, Harakat Al-Nujaba (Iraqi), Kata'ib Hezbollah (Iraqi), Liwaa Abu Fadl Al-Abbas (Iraqi), and Firqa Fatayyemoun (Afghan/Iranian volunteers). [58]

In early February 2016, backed by Russian and Syrian air force airstrikes, the 4th Mechanized Division – in close coordination with Hezbollah, the National Defense Forces (NDF), Kata'eb Hezbollah, and Harakat Al-Nujaba – launched an offensive in Aleppo Governorate's northern countryside, [59] which eventually broke the three-year siege of Nubl and Al-Zahraa and cut off the rebels' main supply route from Turkey. According to a senior, non-Syrian security source close to Damascus, Iranian fighters played a crucial role in the conflict. "Qassem Soleimani is there in the same area", he said. [60] In December 2016, new photos emerged of Soleimani at the Citadel of Aleppo , though the exact date of the photos is unknown. [61] [62]

... ... ...

In 2014, Qasem Soleimani was in the Iraqi city of Amirli , to work with the Iraqi forces to push back militants from ISIL. [68] [69] According to the Los Angeles Times , which reported that Amirli was the first town to successfully withstand an ISIS invasion, it was secured thanks to "an unusual partnership of Iraqi and Kurdish soldiers, Iranian-backed Shiite militias and U.S. warplanes". The U.S. acted as a force multiplier for a number of Iranian-backed armed groups – at the same time that was present on the battlefield. [70] [71] Iranian Major General Qasem Soleimani prays in the Syrian desert during a local pro-government offensive in 2017

A senior Iraqi official told the BBC that when the city of Mosul fell, the rapid reaction of Iran, rather than American bombing, was what prevented a more widespread collapse. [11] Qasem Soleimani also seems to have been instrumental in planning the operation to relieve Amirli in Saladin Governorate, where ISIL had laid siege to an important city. [66] In fact the Quds force operatives under Soleimani's command seem to have been deeply involved with not only the Iraqi army and Shi'ite militias but also the Kurdish in the Battle of Amirli , [72] not only providing liaisons for intelligence-sharing but also the supply of arms and munitions in addition to "providing expertise". [73]

In the operation to liberate Jurf Al Sakhar , he was reportedly "present on the battlefield". Some Shia militia commanders described Soleimani as "fearless" – one pointing out that the Iranian general never wears a flak jacket , even on the front lines. [74]

In November 2014, Shi'ite and Kurdish forces under Soleimani's command pushed ISIS out of Iraqi villages of Jalawla and Saadia, in the Diyala Governorate . [67]

Soleimani was also intimately involved in the planning and execution of the operation to liberate Tikrit . [75] [76]

Soleimani played an integral role in the organisation and planning of the crucial operation to retake the city of Tikrit in Iraq from ISIS. The city of Tikrit rests on the left bank of the Tigris river and is the largest and most important city between Baghdad and Mosul, giving it a high strategic value. The city fell to ISIS during 2014 when ISIS made immense gains in northern and central Iraq. After its capture, ISIL's massacre at Camp Speicher led to 1,600 to 1,700 deaths of Iraqi Army cadets and soldiers. After months of careful preparation and intelligence gathering an offensive to encircle and capture Tikrit was launched in early March 2015. [76]

[Feb 27, 2020] Geraldo Rivera: "Don't For A Minute" Cheer Killing Of Iranian General; "What We Have Unleashed?"

In view of event of Jan 7 it looks like Geraldo Rivera had the point. He beautifully cut the neocon jerk by reminding him the role of the US intelligence agencies in unleashing Iraq war
Jan 02, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

FOX News correspondent Geraldo Rivera debated "Fox & Friends" hosts Brian Kilmeade and Steve Doocy Friday about the assassination of Iranian special forces General Qassim al Soleimani in Iraq, warning of dire consequences if Iran chooses to retaliate and telling Kilmeade: "You, like Lindsey Graham, have never met a war you didn't like."

"Your arrogance is exactly what's wrong with the region," Geraldo said. "You're not a front-line fighter that has to go back into Iraq again."

GERALDO RIVERA: We thought that when the de-escalation at the embassy happened a couple of days ago that was the end of this chapter. The U.S., with it's firmness, had won the victory. It wasn't going to be Benghazi, it wasn't going to be Tehran from 1980. We won that technical victory.

Now we have taken this huge military escalation. Now I fear the worst. You're going to see the U.S. markets go crazy today. You're going to see the price of oil spiking today. This is a very, very big deal.

BRIAN KILMEADE: I don't know if you heard, this isn't about his resume of blood and death, it was about what was next. That's what you're missing.

STEVE DOOCY: According to the Secretary of Defense.

GERALDO RIVERA: By what credible source can you predict what the next Iranian move will be?

BRIAN KILMEADE: Secretary fo State and American intelligence provided that material.

GERALDO RIVERA: They've been excellent. They've been excellent, the U.S. intelligence has been excellent since 2003 when we invaded Iraq, disrupted the entire region for no real reason. Don't for a minute start cheering this on, what we have done, what we have unleashed --

BRIAN KILMEADE: I will cheer it on. I am elated.

GERALDO RIVERA: Then you, like Lindsey Graham, have never met a war you didn't like.

BRIAN KILMEADE: That is not true, and don't even say that.

GERALDO RIVERA: If President Trump wanted a de-escalation --

BRIAN KILMEADE: Let them kill us for another 15 years?

GERALDO RIVERA: If President Trump wanted a de-escalation and to bring our troops home--

BRIAN KILMEADE: What about the 700 Americans who are dead, should they not be happy?

GERALDO RIVERA: What about the tens of thousands of Iraqis who have died since 2003? You have to start seeing. What the hell are we doing in Baghdad in the first place? Why are we there?

BRIAN KILMEADE: So you're blaming President Bush for the maniacal killing of Saddam Hussein?

GERALDO RIVERA: I am blaming President Bush in 2003 for the fake weapons of mass destruction that never existed and the con-job that drove us into that war.

[Feb 26, 2020] Tulsi vs Bernie on borders

Feb 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Ron Unz , says: Show Comment February 26, 2020 at 8:58 pm GMT

@Jeff Davis

So, while I see Bernie heading for an electoral win quite possibly large enough to prevent the DNC from cheating him out of the Democratic nomination, should he win the Presidency, preventing him from dying of "a heart attack" before his inauguration may well be a challenge. Paranoid? Maybe, but who can say? President Sanders may need an extraordinary level of protection just to stay alive.

That's exactly one of the several reasons he should pick Tulsi Gabbard as his VP. The voters might finally get a little suspicious if she *also* keels over from a "heart attack" age 38. And the "Deep State" hate her so much more than Sanders, they'd hire an extra food-taster for him.

Since today's Democrats are so big on race/gender issues plus "military service," nominating America's first non-white woman as a VP and a war veteran would check all the boxes.

sarz , says: Show Comment February 26, 2020 at 10:11 am GMT
@TG I suspect that the current Bernie on open borders is just a phase before the nomination. A salute to Demo idiocy.

Bernie's close associate Gabbard has been quietly talking sense on the border issue for quite some time.

This is an issue on which Trump has himself waffled a lot and delivered very little. It would be looking a gift horse in the mouth if Bernie were not to run with the border issue against Trump.

RudyM , says: Show Comment February 26, 2020 at 2:33 pm GMT
@sarz

Bernie's close associate Gabbard has been quietly talking sense on the border issue for quite some time.

What has Gabbard said in particular that is so sensible? The best I've heard from her is that, well, we have to have some sort of control of our borders. But she is for another mass amnesty. I can see how that can seem "pragmatic," but it is just an invitation for more large scale illegal immigration.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/congress/11623/gradescoresheet/

Who is a closer associate of Sanders, Gabbard or AOC? Obviously the former can't campaign for Sanders while she herself is running, and Sanders can't boost Gabbard the way he has boosted AOC, but for the moment anyway Sanders looks closer to AOC than to Gabbard.

Jeff Davis , says: Show Comment February 26, 2020 at 10:17 pm GMT
@Ron Unz Bernie/Tulsi is the only ticket I would vote for over Trump.

I sent Trump to DC to burn the place down. Three years later the results are in: the Swamp drained him. That said, he started the revolution. Now comes 2020, and the next chapter.

I still like Trump. He made some progress: destroyed Hillary. And I choose to believe he was sincere in his stated policy goals, but faced unprecedented obstruction -- "Six ways from Sunday". So I don't blame him entirely for not achieving those goals.

But for me, the top priority was ending the wars.

So now, as Bernie takes up the revolutionary cause from the left, I'm waiting to see who gets my vote.

It never occurred to me, but yes, the idea of Tulsi as an insurance policy is another very good reason to pick her.

Will that happen? Will the Sanders team see that? Chuck Rocha and Nina Turner are the only Sanders team members I've seen in action, and they're some wicked smart people. Or will they wuss out and pick a centrist? (Personally, I think Bernie is sufficiently revolutionary not to wuss out, and yet )

Then too, it's still eight months till the election. If challenged, Trump could yet execute any of several winning plays: withdraw from Syria, Iraq and Afghan; pardon Julian Assange; declare his intent to replace Pompeo with Tulsi as Secretary of State. The list is long, and Trump wants to win.

Interesting times.

[Feb 26, 2020] Tulsi vs Bloomberg

Feb 26, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

TheVigilant1 , 2 hours ago

Separation of Powers is for losers.

DEMIZEN , 2 hours ago

its getting hillarious outhere:

just look at this one:

Democratic megadonor Bernard Schwartz has started reaching out to party leaders to encourage them to coalesce around a candidate for president in order to stop the surge of Sen. Bernie Sanders.

and then we call iran a regime?

Bloodstock , 2 hours ago

Yep he admitted that he bought 'em,,,now trying to cover it up. With the billions that he's got, I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg.

PrideOfMammon , 2 hours ago

And you thought the *** takeover of the USA was still ahead.

IT is done~

commiebastid , 2 hours ago

final nails in coffin were hammered in with Citizens united

now this https://www.mintpressnews.com/richard-grenell-israel-lobby-us-intelligence/265181/

notthebriang , 2 hours ago

Cant...

Mention...

Tulsi.

What a bunch of bitches.

Tulsi 2020.

**** their wars.

And **** Them Too.

[Feb 25, 2020] The Economic Anxiety Hypothesis has Become Absurd(er)

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The key promise of neoliberalism, which came to power in the USA in 1980 with the election of Reagan (aka "the Quiet Coup") was that "the rising tide lifts all boats." -- the redistribution of the wealth up somehow will lift the standard of living of lower strata of the population too. This was a false promise from the very beginning (like everything about neoliberalism, which is based on lies and fake economics in any case). So anger accumulated and now became the key factor in elections. This anger is directed against the neoliberal establishment. ..."
"... The anger toward immigrants is, in fact, a displaced and projected anger against the elimination of meaningful and well-paid jobs and replacing them with McJobs, the process that was the key factor in lowering the standard of living of the bottom 80% of the population. ..."
"... The other part of this anger is directed toward the USA financial oligarchy (personified by such passionately hated figures as Lloyd "we are doing God's" Blankfein, private equity sharks, and figures like Wexner/Epstein) and "political establishment" the key figures of which many people would like to see hanging from street lamp posts (remember "Lock her up" movement in 2016). ..."
"... That's why the neoliberal establishment was forced to use to dirty tricks like Russiagate to patch the cracks in the neoliberal façade. ..."
"... In Marxist terms, the USA entered the period called the "revolutionary situation" when the ruling neoliberal elite couldn't govern "as usual" and "the deplorable" do not want to live "as usual". The situation when according to Hegel, "quantity turns into quality," or as Marx said "ideas become a material force when they grip the mind of the masses." ..."
Feb 25, 2020 | angrybearblog.com

I am old enough to remember when many very serious people ascribed the rise of Donald Trump to economic anxiety. The hypthesis never fit the facts (his supporters had higher incomes on average than Clinton's) but it has become absurd. The level of self reported economic anxiety is extraordinarily low

Gallup reports "Record High optimism about Personal Finances in U.S." with 74% predicting they will be better off next year.

Yet now the Democratic party has an insurgent candidate candidate in the lead. I hasten to stress that I am not saying Sanders supporters have much in common with Trump supporters (young vs old, strong hispanic support vs they hate Trump etc etc etc). But both appeal to anger and advocate a radical break with business as usual. Both reject party establishments. Also Warren if a little bit less so.

Trump's 2016 angry supporters still support him *and* they are still angry. He remains unpopular in spite of an economy performing very well (and perceived to be performing very well).

Whatever is going on in 2020, it sure isn't economic anxiety.

Yet there is clearly anger and desire for radical change.

I don't pretend to understand it, but I think it probably has a lot to do with relative economic performance and increased inequality. I can't understand why the reaction of so many Americans to this would be to hate immigrants and vote for Trump, but, then I don't watch Fox News.

One other thing which it isn't is rejection of the guy who came before Trump. Obama has a Real Clear Politics average favorable rating of 59% and unfavorable of 36.1 % vastly vastly better than any currently active politician. (Sanders is doing relatively very well at net -2.7 compared to Obama's + 22.9) He is not rejected. He is not considered a failure. Yet only a small majority is interested in any sort of going back to the way things were.


likbez , February 25, 2020 12:37 am

Robert ,

Trump's 2016 angry supporters still support him *and* they are still angry.

Many Trump "angry supporters" in 2016 used to belong to "anybody but Hillary" class (and they included a noticeable percentage of Bernie supporters, who felt betrayed by DNC) .

They are lost for Trump as he now in many aspects represents the "new Hillary" and the slogan "anybody but Trump" is growing in popularity. Even among Republicans: Trump definitely already lost a large part of anti-war Republicans and independents. As well as. most probably, a part of working class as he did very little for them outside of effects of military Keynesianism.

I suspect he also lost a part of military voters, those who supported Tulsi. They will never vote for Trump.

He also lost a part of "technocratic" voters resentful of the rule of financial oligarchy (anti-swampers), as his incompetence is now an undisputable fact.

He also lost Ron Paul's libertarians, who voted for him in 2016.

How "Coronavirus recession", if any, might affect 2020 elections is difficult to say, but in any case this is an unfavorable for Trump event.

EMichael , February 25, 2020 10:39 am

"I can't understand why the reaction of so many Americans to this would be to hate immigrants and vote for Trump, but, then I don't watch Fox News."

Coming to you since 1965. It's just that immigrants are now added to blacks. Trump took 50 years of the Southern Strategy, took the dogwhistles completely out of the closet and wore his racism right on his chest. Helped that he had over 50 years of experience as a racist, it came naturally to him.

And he attracted a new rw base, those who were not satisfied with dog whistles and/or did not hear them.

likbez , February 25, 2020 12:19 pm

I don't pretend to understand it, but I think it probably has a lot to do with relative economic performance and increased inequality.

It is actually very easy to understand: the middle class fared very poorly since 1991. See https://www.cnbc.com/id/44962589 . Now "the chickens come home to roost," so to speak.

The key promise of neoliberalism, which came to power in the USA in 1980 with the election of Reagan (aka "the Quiet Coup") was that "the rising tide lifts all boats." -- the redistribution of the wealth up somehow will lift the standard of living of lower strata of the population too. This was a false promise from the very beginning (like everything about neoliberalism, which is based on lies and fake economics in any case). So anger accumulated and now became the key factor in elections. This anger is directed against the neoliberal establishment.

The anger toward immigrants is, in fact, a displaced and projected anger against the elimination of meaningful and well-paid jobs and replacing them with McJobs, the process that was the key factor in lowering the standard of living of the bottom 80% of the population.

The other part of this anger is directed toward the USA financial oligarchy (personified by such passionately hated figures as Lloyd "we are doing God's" Blankfein, private equity sharks, and figures like Wexner/Epstein) and "political establishment" the key figures of which many people would like to see hanging from street lamp posts (remember "Lock her up" movement in 2016).

Resentment against spending huge amounts of money for wars for sustaining and enlarging the global USA-centered neoliberal empire is another factor. In this sense, impoverishment and shrinking of the middle class in the USA is similar to the same impoverishment during the last days of the British colonial empire.

That's why the neoliberal establishment was forced to use to dirty tricks like Russiagate to patch the cracks in the neoliberal façade.

In Marxist terms, the USA entered the period called the "revolutionary situation" when the ruling neoliberal elite couldn't govern "as usual" and "the deplorable" do not want to live "as usual". The situation when according to Hegel, "quantity turns into quality," or as Marx said "ideas become a material force when they grip the mind of the masses."

In 2016 that resulted in the election of Trump.

Add to this the fact that the neoliberal establishment (represented by both parties) now is clearly anti-social (the fact that a private equity shark Romney was a presidential candidate and then was elected as senator tells a lot about the level of degradation) and is unwilling to solve burning problems with medical insurance, minimal wage and other "the New Deal" elements of social infrastructure.

Democratic Party platform now is to the right of Eisenhower republicans.

That dooms the party candidates like CIA-democrat Major Pete, or "the senator from the credit card companies" Biden, and create an opening for political figures like Sanders (which are passionately hated by DNC)

[Feb 25, 2020] How John Bolton and a Phony Script Brought Us to the Brink of War by Scott Ritter

Bolton is a typical "Full Spectrum Dominance" hawk, a breed of chickenhawks that recently proliferated in Washinton corridors of power and which are fed by MIC.
Notable quotes:
"... the way the IRGC came to be designated as an FTO is itself predicated on a lie. ..."
"... The person responsible for this lie is President Trump's former national security adviser John Bolton, who while in that position oversaw National Security Council (NSC) interagency policy coordination meetings at the White House for the purpose of formulating a unified government position on Iran. Bolton had stacked the NSC staff with hardliners who were pushing for a strong stance. But representatives from the Department of Defense often pushed back . During such meetings, the Pentagon officials argued that the IRGC was "a state entity" (albeit a "bad" one), and that if the U.S. were to designate it as a terrorist group, there was nothing to stop Iran from responding by designating U.S. military personnel or CIA officers as terrorists. ..."
"... The memoranda on these meetings, consisting of summaries of the various positions put forward, were doctored by the NSC to make it appear as if the Pentagon agreed with its proposed policy. The Defense Department complained to the NSC that the memoranda produced from these meetings were "largely incorrect and inaccurate" -- "essentially fiction," a former Pentagon official claimed. ..."
"... This was a direct result of the bureaucratic dishonesty of John Bolton. Such dishonesty led to a series of policy decisions that gave a green light to use military force against IRGC targets throughout the Middle East. ..."
Feb 25, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
President Trump's decision to assassinate Qassem Soleimani back in January took the United States to the brink of war with Iran.

Trump and his advisors contend that Soleimani's death was necessary to protect American lives, pointing to a continuum of events that began on December 27, when a rocket attack on an American base in Iraq killed a civilian translator. That in turn prompted U.S. airstrikes against a pro-Iranian militia, Khati'ab Hezbollah, which America blamed for the attack. Khati'ab Hezbollah then stormed the U.S. embassy in Baghdad in protest. This reportedly triggered the assassination of Soleimani and a subsequent Iranian retaliatory missile strike on an American base in Iraq. The logic of this continuum appears consistent except for one important fact -- it is all predicated on a lie.

On the night of December 27, a pickup truck modified to carry a launchpad capable of firing 36 107mm Russian-made rockets was used in an attack on a U.S. military compound located at the K-1 Airbase in Iraq's Kirkuk Province. A total of 20 rockets were loaded onto the vehicle, but only 14 were fired. Some of the rockets struck an ammunition dump on the base, setting off a series of secondary explosions. When the smoke and dust cleared, a civilian interpreter was dead and several other personnel , including four American servicemen and two Iraqi military, were wounded. The attack appeared timed to disrupt a major Iraqi military operation targeting insurgents affiliated with ISIS.

The area around K-1 is populated by Sunni Arabs, and has long been considered a bastion of ISIS ideology, even if the organization itself was declared defeated inside Iraq back in 2017 by then-prime minister Haider al Abadi. The Iraqi counterterrorism forces based at K-1 consider the area around the base an ISIS sanctuary so dangerous that they only enter in large numbers.

For their part, the Iraqis had been warning their U.S. counterparts for more than a month that ISIS was planning attacks on K-1. One such report, delivered on November 6, using intelligence dating back to October, was quite specific: "ISIS terrorists have endeavored to target K-1 base in Kirkuk district by indirect fire (Katyusha rockets)."

Another report, dated December 25, warned that ISIS was attempting to seize territory to the northeast of K-1. The Iraqis were so concerned that on December 27, the day of the attack, they requested that the U.S. keep functional its tethered aerostat-based Persistent Threat Detection System (PTSD) -- a high-tech reconnaissance balloon equipped with multi-mission sensors to provide long endurance intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance (ISR) and communications in support of U.S. and Iraqi forces.

Instead, the U.S. took the PTSD down for maintenance, allowing the attackers to approach unobserved.

The Iraqi military officials at K-1 immediately suspected ISIS as the culprit behind the attack. Their logic was twofold. First, ISIS had been engaged in nearly daily attacks in the area for over a year, launching rockets, firing small arms, and planting roadside bombs. Second, according to the Iraqis , "The villages near here are Turkmen and Arab. There is sympathy with Daesh [i.e., ISIS] there."

As transparent as the Iraqis had been with the U.S. about their belief that ISIS was behind the attack, the U.S. was equally opaque with the Iraqis regarding whom it believed was the culprit. The U.S. took custody of the rocket launcher, all surviving ordnance, and all warhead fragments from the scene.

U.S. intelligence analysts viewed the attack on K-1 as part of a continuum of attacks against U.S. bases in Iraq since early November 2019. The first attack took place on November 9, against the joint U.S.-Iraqi base at Qayarrah , and was very similar to the one that occurred against K-1 -- some 31 107mm rockets were fired from a pickup truck modified to carry a rocket launchpad. As with K-1, the forces located in Qayarrah were engaged in ongoing operations targeting ISIS, and the territory around the base was considered sympathetic to ISIS. The Iraqi government attributed the attack to unspecified "terrorist" groups.

The U.S., however, attributed the attacks to Khati'ab Hezbollah, a Shia militia incorporated with the Popular Mobilization Organization (PMO), a pro-Iranian umbrella organization that had been incorporated into the Iraqi Ministry of Defense. The PMO blamed the U.S. for a series of drone strikes against its facilities throughout the summer of 2019. The feeling among the American analysts was that the PMO attacked the bases as a form of retaliation.

The U.S. launched a series of airstrikes against Khati'ab Hezbollah bases and command posts in Iraq and Syria on December 29, near the Iraqi city of al-Qaim. These attacks were carried out unilaterally, without any effort to coordinate with America's Iraqi counterparts or seek approval from the Iraqi government.

Khati'ab Hezbollah units had seized al-Qaim from ISIS in November 2017, and then crossed into Syria, where they defeated ISIS fighters dug in around the Syrian town of al-Bukamal. They were continuing to secure this strategic border crossing when they were bombed on December 29.

Left unsaid by the U.S. was the fact that the al-Bukamal-al Qaim border crossing was seen as a crucial "land bridge," connecting Iran with Syria via Iraq. Throughout the summer of 2019, the U.S. had been watching as Iranian engineers, working with Khati'ab Hezbollah, constructed a sprawling base that straddled both Iraq and Syria. It was this base, and not Khati'ab Hezbollah per se, that was the reason for the American airstrike. The objective in this attack was to degrade Iranian capability in the region; the K-1 attack was just an excuse, one based on the lie that Khati'ab Hezbollah, and not ISIS, had carried it out.

The U.S. had long condemned what it called Iran's "malign intentions" when it came to its activities in Iraq and Syria. But there is a world of difference between employing tools of diplomacy to counter Iranian regional actions and going kinetic. One of the reasons the U.S. has been able to justify attacking Iranian-affiliated targets, such as the al-Bukamal-al-Qaim complex and Qassem Soleimani, is that the Iranian entity associated with both -- the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC -- has been designated by the U.S. as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO), and as such military attacks against it are seen as an extension of the ongoing war on terror. Yet the way the IRGC came to be designated as an FTO is itself predicated on a lie.

The person responsible for this lie is President Trump's former national security adviser John Bolton, who while in that position oversaw National Security Council (NSC) interagency policy coordination meetings at the White House for the purpose of formulating a unified government position on Iran. Bolton had stacked the NSC staff with hardliners who were pushing for a strong stance. But representatives from the Department of Defense often pushed back . During such meetings, the Pentagon officials argued that the IRGC was "a state entity" (albeit a "bad" one), and that if the U.S. were to designate it as a terrorist group, there was nothing to stop Iran from responding by designating U.S. military personnel or CIA officers as terrorists.

The memoranda on these meetings, consisting of summaries of the various positions put forward, were doctored by the NSC to make it appear as if the Pentagon agreed with its proposed policy. The Defense Department complained to the NSC that the memoranda produced from these meetings were "largely incorrect and inaccurate" -- "essentially fiction," a former Pentagon official claimed.

After the Pentagon "informally" requested that the NSC change the memoranda to accurately reflect its position, and were denied, the issue was bumped up to Undersecretary of Defense John Rood. He then formally requested that the memoranda be corrected. Such a request was unprecedented in recent memory, a former official noted. Regardless, the NSC did not budge, and the original memoranda remained as the official records of the meetings in question.

President Trump designated the IRGC a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) in April 2018.

This was a direct result of the bureaucratic dishonesty of John Bolton. Such dishonesty led to a series of policy decisions that gave a green light to use military force against IRGC targets throughout the Middle East. The rocket attack against K-1 was attributed to an Iranian proxy -- Khati'ab Hezbollah -- even though there was reason to believe the attack was carried out by ISIS. This was a cover so IRGC-affiliated facilities in al-Bakumal and al-Qaim, which had nothing to do with the attack, could be bombed. Everything to do with Iran's alleged "malign intent." The U.S. embassy was then attacked. Soleimani killed. The American base at al-Assad was bombarded by Iranian missiles. America and Iran were on the brink of war.

All because of a lie.

Scott Ritter is a former Marine Corps intelligence officer who served in the former Soviet Union implementing arms control treaties, in the Persian Gulf during Operation Desert Storm, and in Iraq overseeing the disarmament of WMD. He is the author of several books, most recently, Deal of the Century: How Iran Blocked the West's Road to War (2018).

[Feb 23, 2020] Welcome to the American Regime

Highly recommended!
Feb 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

4 hours ago

Is America a 'regime'?

In the language of the American Oligarchy and it's tame and owned presstitutes on the MSM, any country targeted for destabilisation, destruction and rape – either because it doesn't do what America tells it do (Russia), because it has rich natural resources or has a 'socialist' state (Venezuela) or because lunatic neo-cons and even more lunatic Christian Evangelicals (hoping to provoke The End Times ) want it to happen (Syria and Iran) – is first labelled as a 'regime'.

That's because the word 'regime' is associated with dictatorships and human rights abuses and establishing a non-compliant country as a 'regime' is the US government's and MSM's first step at manufacturing public consent for that country's destruction.

Unfortunately if you sit back and talk a cool-headed, factual look at actions and attitudes that we're told constitute a regime then you have to conclude that America itself is 'a regime'.

So, here's why America is a regime:

4 hours ago

America's Military is Killing – Americans!

In 2018, Republicans (AND Democrats) voted to cut $23 billion dollars from the budget for food stamps (42 million Americans currently receive them).

Fats forward to 21 December 2019 and Donald Trump signed off on a US defense budget of a mind boggling $738 billion dollars.

To put that in context  --  the annual US government Education budget is sround $68 billion dollars.

Did you get that  --  $738 billion on defense, $68 billion on education?

That means the government spends more than ten times on preparations to kill people than it does on preparing children for life in the adult world.

Wow!

How ******* psychotic and death-affirming is that? It gets even worse when you consider that that $716 billion dollars is only the headline figure – it doesn't include whatever the Deep State siphons away into black-ops and kick backs. And .America's military isn't even very good – it's hasn't 'won' a conflict since the second world war, it's proud (and horrifically expensive) aircraft carriers have been rendered obsolete by Chinese and Russian hypersonic missiles and its 'cutting edge' weapons are so good (not) that everyone wants to buy the cheaper and better Russian versions: classic example – the F-35 jet program will screw $1.5 TRILLION (yes, TRILLION) dollars out of US taxpayers but but it's a piece of **** plane that doesn't work properly which the Russians laughingly refer to as 'a flying piano'.

In contrast to America's free money for the military industrial complex defense budget, China spends $165 billion and Russia spends $61 billion on defense and I don't see anyone attacking them (well, except America, that is be it only by proxy for now).

Or, put things another way. The United Kingdom spent £110 billion on it's National Health Service in 2017. That means, if you get sick in England, you can see a doctor for free. If you need drugs you pay a prescription charge of around $11.50(nothing, if unemployed, a child or elderly), whatever the market price of the drugs. If you need to see a consultant or medical specialist, you'll see one for free. If you need an operation, you'll get one for free. If you need on-going care for a chronic illness, you'll get it for free.

Fully socialised, free at the point of access, healthcare for all. How good is that?

US citizens could have that, too.

Allowing for the US's larger population, the UK National Health Service transplanted to America could cost about $650 billion a year. That would still leave $66 billion dollars left over from the proposed defense budget of $716 billion to finance weapons of death and destruction   --  more than those 'evil Ruskies' spend.

The US has now been at war, somewhere in the world (i.e in someone elses' country where the US doesn't have any business being) continuously for 28 years. Those 28 years have coincided with (for the 'ordinary people', anyway) declining living standards, declining real wages, increased police violence, more repression and surveillance, declining lifespans, declining educational and health outcomes, more every day misery in other words, America's military is killing Americans. Oh, and millions of people in far away countries (although, obviously, those deaths are in far away countries and they are of brown-skinned people so they don't really count, do they?).

Time for a change, perhaps?

[Feb 23, 2020] Where Have You Gone, Smedley Butler The Last General To Criticize US Imperialism by Danny Sjursen

Here's a link to a free online copy of War is a Racket if anyone wants to read it. It's a short read. Pretty good too. https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
From comments (Is the USA government now a "regime"): In 2018, Republicans (AND Democrats) voted to cut $23 billion dollars from the budget for food stamps (42 million Americans currently receive them). Regimes disobey international law. Like America's habit of blowing up wedding parties with drones or the illegal presence of its troops in Syria, Iraq and God knows where else. Regimes carry out illegal assassination programs – I need say no more here than Qasem Soleimani. Regimes use their economic power to bully and impose their will – sanctioning countries even when they know those sanctions will, for example, be responsible for the death of 500,000 Iraqi children (the 'price worth paying', remember?). Regimes renege on international treaties – like Iran nuclear treaty, for example. Regimes imprison and hound whistle-blowers – like Chelsea manning and Julian Assange. Regimes imprison people. America is the world leader in incarceration. It has 2.2 million people in its prisons (more than China which has 5 times the US's population), that's 25% of the world's prison population for 5% of the world's population, Why does America need so many prisoners? Because it has a massive, prison-based, slave labour business that is hugely profitable for the oligarchy.
Regimes censor free speech. Just recently, we've seen numerous non-narrative following journalists and organisations kicked off numerous social media platforms. I didn't see lots of US senators standing up and saying 'I disagree completely with what you say but I will fight to the death to preserve your right to say it'. Did you?
Regimes are ruled by cliques. I don't need to tell you that America is kakistocratic Oligarchy ruled by a tiny group of evil, rich, Old Men, do I?
Regimes keep bad company. Their allies are other 'regimes', and they're often lumped together by using another favourite presstitute term – 'axis of evil'. America has its own little axis of evil. It's two main allies are Saudi Arabia – a homophobic, women hating, head chopping, terrorist financing state currently engaged in a war of genocide (assisted by the US) in Yemen – and the racist, genocidal undeclared nuclear power state of Israel.
Regimes commit human rights abuses. Here we could talk about…ooh…let's think. Last year's treatment of child refugees from Latin America, the execution of African Americans for 'walking whilst black' by America's militarized, criminal police force or the millions of dollars in cash and property seized from entirely innocent Americans by that same police force under 'civil forfeiture' laws or maybe we could mention huge American corporations getting tax refunds whilst ordinary Americans can't afford decent, effective healthcare.
Regimes finance terrorism. Mmmm….just like America financed terrorists to help destroy Syria and Libya and invested $5 billion dollars to install another regime – the one of anti-Semites and Nazis in Ukraine…
Highly recommended!
Some comments edited for clarity...
Notable quotes:
"... But after retirement, Smedley Butler changed his tune. ..."
"... "I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service... And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." ..."
"... Smedley Butler's Marine Corps and the military of his day was, in certain ways, a different sort of organization than today's highly professionalized armed forces. History rarely repeats itself, not in a literal sense anyway. Still, there are some disturbing similarities between the careers of Butler and today's generation of forever-war fighters. All of them served repeated tours of duty in (mostly) unsanctioned wars around the world. Butler's conflicts may have stretched west from Haiti across the oceans to China, whereas today's generals mostly lead missions from West Africa east to Central Asia, but both sets of conflicts seemed perpetual in their day and were motivated by barely concealed economic and imperial interests. ..."
"... When Smedley Butler retired in 1931, he was one of three Marine Corps major generals holding a rank just below that of only the Marine commandant and the Army chief of staff. Today, with about 900 generals and admirals currently serving on active duty, including 24 major generals in the Marine Corps alone, and with scores of flag officers retiring annually, not a single one has offered genuine public opposition to almost 19 years worth of ill-advised, remarkably unsuccessful American wars . As for the most senior officers, the 40 four-star generals and admirals whose vocal antimilitarism might make the biggest splash, there are more of them today than there were even at the height of the Vietnam War, although the active military is now about half the size it was then. Adulated as many of them may be, however, not one qualifies as a public critic of today's failing wars. ..."
"... The big three are Secretary of State Colin Powell's former chief of staff, retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson ; Vietnam veteran and onetime West Point history instructor, retired Colonel Andrew Bacevich ; and Iraq veteran and Afghan War whistleblower , retired Lieutenant Colonel Danny Davis . All three have proven to be genuine public servants, poignant voices, and -- on some level -- cherished personal mentors. For better or worse, however, none carry the potential clout of a retired senior theater commander or prominent four-star general offering the same critiques. ..."
"... Consider it an irony of sorts that this system first received criticism in our era of forever wars when General David Petraeus, then commanding the highly publicized " surge " in Iraq, had to leave that theater of war in 2007 to serve as the chair of that selection committee. The reason: he wanted to ensure that a twice passed-over colonel, a protégé of his -- future Trump National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster -- earned his star. ..."
"... At the roots of this system lay the obsession of the American officer corps with " professionalization " after the Vietnam War debacle. This first manifested itself in a decision to ditch the citizen-soldier tradition, end the draft, and create an "all-volunteer force." The elimination of conscription, as predicted by critics at the time, created an ever-growing civil-military divide, even as it increased public apathy regarding America's wars by erasing whatever " skin in the game " most citizens had. ..."
"... One group of generals, however, reportedly now does have it out for President Trump -- but not because they're opposed to endless war. Rather, they reportedly think that The Donald doesn't "listen enough to military advice" on, you know, how to wage war forever and a day. ..."
"... That beast, first identified by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, is now on steroids as American commanders in retirement regularly move directly from the military onto the boards of the giant defense contractors, a reality which only contributes to the dearth of Butlers in the military retiree community. For all the corruption of his time, the Pentagon didn't yet exist and the path from the military to, say, United Fruit Company, Standard Oil, or other typical corporate giants of that moment had yet to be normalized for retiring generals and admirals. Imagine what Butler would have had to say about the modern phenomenon of the " revolving door " in Washington. ..."
"... Today, generals don't seem to have a thought of their own even in retirement. And more's the pity... ..."
"... Am I the only one to notice that Hollywood and it's film distributors have gone full bore on "war" productions, glorifying these historical events while using poetic license to rewrite history. Prepping the numbheads. ..."
"... Forget rank. As Mr Sjursen implies, dissidents are no longer allowed in the higher ranks. "They" made sure to fix this as Mr Butler had too much of a mind of his own (US education system also programmed against creative, charismatic thinkers, btw). ..."
"... Today, the "Masters of the Permawars" refer to the international extortion, MIC, racket as "Defending American Interests"! .....With never any explanation to the public/American taxpayer just what "American Interests" the incredible expenditures of American lives, blood, and treasure are being defended! ..."
"... "The Americans follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous." - Jospeh Goebbels ..."
"... The greatest anti-imperialist of our times is Michael Parenti: ..."
"... The obvious types of American fascists are dealt with on the air and in the press. These demagogues and stooges are fronts for others. Dangerous as these people may be, they are not so significant as thousands of other people who have never been mentioned. The really dangerous American fascists are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power. ..."
"... If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. Most American fascists are enthusiastically supporting the war effort. ..."
Feb 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Danny Sjursen via TomDispatch.com,

There once lived an odd little man - five feet nine inches tall and barely 140 pounds sopping wet - who rocked the lecture circuit and the nation itself. For all but a few activist insiders and scholars, U.S. Marine Corps Major General Smedley Darlington Butler is now lost to history. Yet more than a century ago, this strange contradiction of a man would become a national war hero, celebrated in pulp adventure novels, and then, 30 years later, as one of this country's most prominent antiwar and anti-imperialist dissidents.

Raised in West Chester, Pennsylvania, and educated in Quaker (pacifist) schools, the son of an influential congressman, he would end up serving in nearly all of America's " Banana Wars " from 1898 to 1931. Wounded in combat and a rare recipient of two Congressional Medals of Honor, he would retire as the youngest, most decorated major general in the Marines.

A teenage officer and a certified hero during an international intervention in the Chinese Boxer Rebellion of 1900, he would later become a constabulary leader of the Haitian gendarme, the police chief of Philadelphia (while on an approved absence from the military), and a proponent of Marine Corps football. In more standard fashion, he would serve in battle as well as in what might today be labeled peacekeeping , counterinsurgency , and advise-and-assist missions in Cuba, China, the Philippines, Panama, Nicaragua, Mexico, Haiti, France, and China (again). While he showed early signs of skepticism about some of those imperial campaigns or, as they were sardonically called by critics at the time, " Dollar Diplomacy " operations -- that is, military campaigns waged on behalf of U.S. corporate business interests -- until he retired he remained the prototypical loyal Marine.

But after retirement, Smedley Butler changed his tune. He began to blast the imperialist foreign policy and interventionist bullying in which he'd only recently played such a prominent part. Eventually, in 1935 during the Great Depression, in what became a classic passage in his memoir, which he titled "War Is a Racket," he wrote:

"I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service... And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers."

Seemingly overnight, the famous war hero transformed himself into an equally acclaimed antiwar speaker and activist in a politically turbulent era. Those were, admittedly, uncommonly anti-interventionist years, in which veterans and politicians alike promoted what (for America, at least) had been fringe ideas. This was, after all, the height of what later pro-war interventionists would pejoratively label American " isolationism ."

Nonetheless, Butler was unique (for that moment and certainly for our own) in his unapologetic amenability to left-wing domestic politics and materialist critiques of American militarism. In the last years of his life, he would face increasing criticism from his former admirer, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, the military establishment, and the interventionist press. This was particularly true after Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany invaded Poland and later France. Given the severity of the Nazi threat to mankind, hindsight undoubtedly proved Butler's virulent opposition to U.S. intervention in World War II wrong.

Nevertheless, the long-term erasure of his decade of antiwar and anti-imperialist activism and the assumption that all his assertions were irrelevant has proven historically deeply misguided. In the wake of America's brief but bloody entry into the First World War, the skepticism of Butler (and a significant part of an entire generation of veterans) about intervention in a new European bloodbath should have been understandable. Above all, however, his critique of American militarism of an earlier imperial era in the Pacific and in Latin America remains prescient and all too timely today, especially coming as it did from one of the most decorated and high-ranking general officers of his time. (In the era of the never-ending war on terror, such a phenomenon is quite literally inconceivable.)

Smedley Butler's Marine Corps and the military of his day was, in certain ways, a different sort of organization than today's highly professionalized armed forces. History rarely repeats itself, not in a literal sense anyway. Still, there are some disturbing similarities between the careers of Butler and today's generation of forever-war fighters. All of them served repeated tours of duty in (mostly) unsanctioned wars around the world. Butler's conflicts may have stretched west from Haiti across the oceans to China, whereas today's generals mostly lead missions from West Africa east to Central Asia, but both sets of conflicts seemed perpetual in their day and were motivated by barely concealed economic and imperial interests.

Nonetheless, whereas this country's imperial campaigns of the first third of the twentieth century generated a Smedley Butler, the hyper-interventionism of the first decades of this century hasn't produced a single even faintly comparable figure. Not one. Zero. Zilch. Why that is matters and illustrates much about the U.S. military establishment and contemporary national culture, none of it particularly encouraging.

Why No Antiwar Generals

When Smedley Butler retired in 1931, he was one of three Marine Corps major generals holding a rank just below that of only the Marine commandant and the Army chief of staff. Today, with about 900 generals and admirals currently serving on active duty, including 24 major generals in the Marine Corps alone, and with scores of flag officers retiring annually, not a single one has offered genuine public opposition to almost 19 years worth of ill-advised, remarkably unsuccessful American wars . As for the most senior officers, the 40 four-star generals and admirals whose vocal antimilitarism might make the biggest splash, there are more of them today than there were even at the height of the Vietnam War, although the active military is now about half the size it was then. Adulated as many of them may be, however, not one qualifies as a public critic of today's failing wars.

Instead, the principal patriotic dissent against those terror wars has come from retired colonels, lieutenant colonels, and occasionally more junior officers (like me), as well as enlisted service members. Not that there are many of us to speak of either. I consider it disturbing (and so should you) that I personally know just about every one of the retired military figures who has spoken out against America's forever wars.

The big three are Secretary of State Colin Powell's former chief of staff, retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson ; Vietnam veteran and onetime West Point history instructor, retired Colonel Andrew Bacevich ; and Iraq veteran and Afghan War whistleblower , retired Lieutenant Colonel Danny Davis . All three have proven to be genuine public servants, poignant voices, and -- on some level -- cherished personal mentors. For better or worse, however, none carry the potential clout of a retired senior theater commander or prominent four-star general offering the same critiques.

Something must account for veteran dissenters topping out at the level of colonel. Obviously, there are personal reasons why individual officers chose early retirement or didn't make general or admiral. Still, the system for selecting flag officers should raise at least a few questions when it comes to the lack of antiwar voices among retired commanders. In fact, a selection committee of top generals and admirals is appointed each year to choose the next colonels to earn their first star. And perhaps you won't be surprised to learn that, according to numerous reports , "the members of this board are inclined, if not explicitly motivated, to seek candidates in their own image -- officers whose careers look like theirs." At a minimal level, such a system is hardly built to foster free thinkers, no less breed potential dissidents.

Consider it an irony of sorts that this system first received criticism in our era of forever wars when General David Petraeus, then commanding the highly publicized " surge " in Iraq, had to leave that theater of war in 2007 to serve as the chair of that selection committee. The reason: he wanted to ensure that a twice passed-over colonel, a protégé of his -- future Trump National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster -- earned his star.

Mainstream national security analysts reported on this affair at the time as if it were a major scandal, since most of them were convinced that Petraeus and his vaunted counterinsurgency or " COINdinista " protégés and their " new " war-fighting doctrine had the magic touch that would turn around the failing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, Petraeus tried to apply those very tactics twice -- once in each country -- as did acolytes of his later, and you know the results of that.

But here's the point: it took an eleventh-hour intervention by America's most acclaimed general of that moment to get new stars handed out to prominent colonels who had, until then, been stonewalled by Cold War-bred flag officers because they were promoting different (but also strangely familiar) tactics in this country's wars. Imagine, then, how likely it would be for such a leadership system to produce genuine dissenters with stars of any serious sort, no less a crew of future Smedley Butlers.

At the roots of this system lay the obsession of the American officer corps with " professionalization " after the Vietnam War debacle. This first manifested itself in a decision to ditch the citizen-soldier tradition, end the draft, and create an "all-volunteer force." The elimination of conscription, as predicted by critics at the time, created an ever-growing civil-military divide, even as it increased public apathy regarding America's wars by erasing whatever " skin in the game " most citizens had.

More than just helping to squelch civilian antiwar activism, though, the professionalization of the military, and of the officer corps in particular, ensured that any future Smedley Butlers would be left in the dust (or in retirement at the level of lieutenant colonel or colonel) by a system geared to producing faux warrior-monks. Typical of such figures is current chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army General Mark Milley. He may speak gruffly and look like a man with a head of his own, but typically he's turned out to be just another yes-man for another war-power -hungry president.

One group of generals, however, reportedly now does have it out for President Trump -- but not because they're opposed to endless war. Rather, they reportedly think that The Donald doesn't "listen enough to military advice" on, you know, how to wage war forever and a day.

What Would Smedley Butler Think Today?

In his years of retirement, Smedley Butler regularly focused on the economic component of America's imperial war policies. He saw clearly that the conflicts he had fought in, the elections he had helped rig, the coups he had supported, and the constabularies he had formed and empowered in faraway lands had all served the interests of U.S. corporate investors. Though less overtly the case today, this still remains a reality in America's post-9/11 conflicts, even on occasion embarrassingly so (as when the Iraqi ministry of oil was essentially the only public building protected by American troops as looters tore apart the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, in the post-invasion chaos of April 2003). Mostly, however, such influence plays out far more subtly than that, both abroad and here at home where those wars help maintain the record profits of the top weapons makers of the military-industrial complex.

That beast, first identified by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, is now on steroids as American commanders in retirement regularly move directly from the military onto the boards of the giant defense contractors, a reality which only contributes to the dearth of Butlers in the military retiree community. For all the corruption of his time, the Pentagon didn't yet exist and the path from the military to, say, United Fruit Company, Standard Oil, or other typical corporate giants of that moment had yet to be normalized for retiring generals and admirals. Imagine what Butler would have had to say about the modern phenomenon of the " revolving door " in Washington.

Of course, he served in a very different moment, one in which military funding and troop levels were still contested in Congress. As a longtime critic of capitalist excesses who wrote for leftist publications and supported the Socialist Party candidate in the 1936 presidential elections, Butler would have found today's nearly trillion-dollar annual defense budgets beyond belief. What the grizzled former Marine long ago identified as a treacherous nexus between warfare and capital "in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives" seems to have reached its natural end point in the twenty-first century. Case in point: the record (and still rising ) "defense" spending of the present moment, including -- to please a president -- the creation of a whole new military service aimed at the full-scale militarization of space .

Sadly enough, in the age of Trump, as numerous polls demonstrate, the U.S. military is the only public institution Americans still truly trust. Under the circumstances, how useful it would be to have a high-ranking, highly decorated, charismatic retired general in the Butler mold galvanize an apathetic public around those forever wars of ours. Unfortunately, the likelihood of that is practically nil, given the military system of our moment.

Of course, Butler didn't exactly end his life triumphantly. In late May 1940, having lost 25 pounds due to illness and exhaustion -- and demonized as a leftist, isolationist crank but still maintaining a whirlwind speaking schedule -- he checked himself into the Philadelphia Navy Yard Hospital for a "rest." He died there, probably of some sort of cancer, four weeks later. Working himself to death in his 10-year retirement and second career as a born-again antiwar activist, however, might just have constituted the very best service that the two-time Medal of Honor winner could have given the nation he loved to the very end.

Someone of his credibility, character, and candor is needed more than ever today. Unfortunately, this military generation is unlikely to produce such a figure. In retirement, Butler himself boldly confessed that, "like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical..."

Today, generals don't seem to have a thought of their own even in retirement. And more's the pity...

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Am I the only one to notice that Hollywood and it's film distributors have gone full bore on "war" productions, glorifying these historical events while using poetic license to rewrite history. Prepping the numbheads.
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TULSI GABBARD.

Forget rank. As Mr Sjursen implies, dissidents are no longer allowed in the higher ranks. "They" made sure to fix this as Mr Butler had too much of a mind of his own (US education system also programmed against creative, charismatic thinkers, btw).

The US Space Force has been created as part of a plan to disclose the deep state's Secret Space Program (SSP), which has been active for decades, and which has utilized, and repressed, advanced technologies that would provide free, unlimited renewable energy, and thus eliminate hunger and poverty on a planetary scale.

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ALL wars are EVIL. Period .

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Sadly enough, in the age of Trump, as numerous polls demonstrate, the U.S. military is the only public institution Americans still truly trust. Under the circumstances, how useful it would be to have a high-ranking, highly decorated, charismatic retired general in the Butler mold galvanize an apathetic public around those forever wars of ours. Unfortunately, the likelihood of that is practically nil, given the military system of our moment.

This is why I feel an oath keeping constitutionally oriented American general is what we need in power, clear out all 545 criminals in office now, review their finances (and most of them will roll over on the others) and punish accordingly, then the lobbyist, how many of them worked against the country? You know what we do with those.

And then, finally, Hollywood, oh yes I long to see that **** hole burn with everyone in it.

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Republicrat: the two faces of the moar war whore.
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Given the severity of the Nazi threat to mankind

Do tell, from what I've read the Nazis were really only a threat to a few groups, the rest of us didn't need to worry.

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Today, the "Masters of the Permawars" refer to the international extortion, MIC, racket as "Defending American Interests"! .....With never any explanation to the public/American taxpayer just what "American Interests" the incredible expenditures of American lives, blood, and treasure are being defended!

Why are we sending our children out into the hellholes of the world to be maimed and killed in the fauxjew banksters' quest for world domination.

How stupid can we be!

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(Edited) "Smedley Butler"... The last time the UCMJ was actually used before being permanently turned into a "door stop"!
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He was correct about our staying out of WWII. Which, BTW, would have never happened if we had stayed out of WWI.
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(Edited) Both wars were about the international fauxjew imposition of debt-money central bankstering.

Both wars were promulgated by the Financial oligarchyof New York. The communist Red Army of Russia was funded and supplied by the Financial oligarchyof New York. It was American Financial oligarchythat built the Russian Red Army that vexed the world and created the Cold War. How many hundreds of millions of goyim were sacrificed to create both the Russian and the Chinese Satanic behemoths.......and the communist horror that is now embedded in American academia, publishing, American politics, so-called news, entertainment, The worldwide Catholic religion, the Pentagon, and the American deep state.......and more!

How stupid can we be. Every generation has the be dragged, kicking and screaming, out of the eternal maw of historical ignorance to avoid falling back into the myriad dark hellholes of history. As we all should know, people who forget their own history are doomed to repeat it.

53 minutes ago
Today's General is a robot with with a DNA.
54 minutes ago
All the General Staff is a bunch of #asskissinglittlechickenshits
57 minutes ago
want to stop senseless Empire wars>>well do this

War = jobs and profit..we get work "THEY" get the profit.. If we taxed all war related profit at 99% how many wars would our rulers start? 1 hour ago

Here is a simple straightforward trading maxim that might apply here: if it works or is working keep doing it, but if it doesn't work or stops working, then STOP doing it. There are plenty of people, now poorer, for not adhering to that simple principle. Where is the Taxpayer's return on investment from the Combat taking place on their behalf around the globe? 'Nuff said - it isn't working. It is making a microscopic few richer & all others poorer so STOP doing it. 36 seconds ago We don't have to look far to figure out who they are that are getting rich off the fauxjew permawars.

How can we be so stupid???

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See also:

TULSI GABBARD

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The main reason you don't see the generals criticizing is that the current crop have not been in actual long term direct combat with the enemy and have mostly been bureaucratic paper pushers.

Take the Marine Major General who is the current commander of CENTCOM. By the time he got into the Iraq/Afghanistan war he was already a Lieutenant Colonel and far removed from direct action.

He was only there on and off for a few years. Here are some of his other career highlights aft as they appear on his official bio:

In short, these top guys aren't warriors they're bureaucrats so why would we expect them to be honest brokers of the truth?

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are U saying Chesty Puller he's NOT? 1 hour ago
(Edited) The purpose of war is to ensure that the Federal Reserve Note remains the world reserve paper currency of choice by keeping it relevant and in demand across the globe by forcing pesky energy producing nations to trade with it exclusively.

It is a 49 year old policy created by the private owners of quasi public institutions called central banks to ensure they remain the Wizards of Oz doing gods work conjuring magic paper into existence with a secret spell known as issuing credit.

How else is a technologically advanced society of billions of people supposed to function w/out this divinely inspired paper?

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Goebbels in "Churchill's Lie Factory" where he said: "The Americans follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous." - Jospeh Goebbels, "Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik," 12. january 1941, Die Zeit ohne Beispiel

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The greatest anti-imperialist of our times is Michael Parenti:

Imperialism has been the most powerful force in world history over the last four or five centuries, carving up whole continents while oppressing indigenous peoples and obliterating entire civilizations. Yet, it is seldom accorded any serious attention by our academics, media commentators, and political leaders. When not ignored outright, the subject of imperialism has been sanitized, so that empires become "commonwealths," and colonies become "territories" or "dominions" (or, as in the case of Puerto Rico, "commonwealths" too). Imperialist military interventions become matters of "national defense," "national security," and maintaining "stability" in one or another region. In this book I want to look at imperialism for what it really is.

https://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/imperialism.html

49 minutes ago
"Imperialism has been the most powerful force in world history over the last four or five centuries, carving up whole continents while oppressing indigenous peoples and obliterating entire civilizations. Yet, it is seldom accorded any serious attention by our academics, media commentators, and political leaders."

Why would it when they who control academia, media and most of our politicians are our enemies.

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"The big three are Secretary of State Colin Powell's former chief of staff, retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson ; ..."

Yep, Wilkerson, who leaked Valerie Plame's name, not that it was a leak, to Novak, and then stood by to watch the grand jury fry Scooter Libby. Wilkerson, that paragon of moral rectitude. Wilkerson the silent, that *******.

sheesh,

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" A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people."

James Madison Friday June 29, 1787

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_629.asp

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [I Annals of Congress at 750, August 17, 1789])

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendIIs6.html

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A particularly pernicious example of intra-European imperialism was the Nazi aggression during World War II, which gave the German business cartels and the Nazi state an opportunity to plunder the resources and exploit the labor of occupied Europe, including the slave labor of concentration camps. - M. PARENTI, Against empire

See Alexander Parvus

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Collapse is the cure. It's too far gone.

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Russia Wants to 'Jam' F-22 and F-35s in the Middle East: Report

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-wants-jam-f-22-and-f-35s-middle-east-report-121041

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ZH retards think that the American mic is bad and all other mics are good or don't exist. That's the power of brainwashing. Humans understand that war in general is bad, but humans are becoming increasingly rare in this world.

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The obvious types of American fascists are dealt with on the air and in the press. These demagogues and stooges are fronts for others. Dangerous as these people may be, they are not so significant as thousands of other people who have never been mentioned. The really dangerous American fascists are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.

If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. Most American fascists are enthusiastically supporting the war effort.

https://truthout.org/articles/the-dangers-of-american-fascism/

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The swamp is bigger than the military alone. Substitute Bureaucrat, Statesman, or Beltway Bandit for General and Colonel in your writing above and you've got a whole new article to post that is just as true.
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(Edited) War = jobs and profit..we get work "THEY" get the profit..If we taxed all war related profit at 99% how many wars would our rulers start?
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War is a racket. And nobody loves a racket more than Financial oligarchy. Americans come close though, that's why Financial oligarchy use them to project their own rackets and provide protection reprisals.

[Feb 22, 2020] Tulsi's Populist 'Country-First' Anti-War Crusade by Hunter DeRensis

Notable quotes:
"... A combat veteran and major in the U.S. National Guard, Gabbard has made ending America's policy of "regime change wars" the core of her campaign platform. "She puts peace over war profiteering," said Carl Holland, introducing the candidate to unanimous applause. But on this occasion, foreign policy was not the focus of her stump speech. ..."
"... After her first debate, I watched CNN coverage of that debate on YouTube and noted the amount of coverage devoted to her. I was struck by how little was said about her. The story included her in a clip of candidates deriding Trump but gave her NO coverage of her other views, in spite of the fact that she did well in the debate and made some sound-byte worthy statements. In contrast, the mainstream candidates got lots of coverage. ..."
"... She completely botched the Assad - poison gas issue. She swallowed the propaganda whole cloth, and when it was proven she was just wrong she huffed off in denial. ..."
"... Actually, it appears that Americans and Western media bought the propaganda on alleged Assad use of poison gas (vice the al-Qaeda linked "rebels"): https://thegrayzone.com/202... ..."
"... Undoubtedly the finest candidate for president in the race. And by far the most presidential. Her campaign deserves more. ..."
"... HER core issue -- anti-foreign intervention, ending forever wars -- remain resoundingly popular. However, her relative low-profile as a Hawaiian congresswoman (compare her favorable support vis-a-vis Julian Castro, for instance), the constant mainstream media attacks (compare her to the Mayor Pete love-fest), and most importantly, her unwillingness to be reflexively anti-Trump, is costing her the support of a feverish, vengeful Democratic primary base. ..."
"... Hi, the main reason the major media went out to try to stop Tulsi's campaign: From the Dem leadership like Pelosi and Schumer, to the folks at CNN, MSNBC and all the network 'news' shows, they worked to stop her because: They are neocons! And she's talking ending wars over there and there! ..."
"... That goes against hardliners like AIPAC, and in mentioning CNN, for example, Blitzer is a neocon guy and he is foremost an Israeli supporter and so on. What, are we just gonna keep kidding ourselves? ..."
Feb 19, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
Is there a better time for a presidential townhall than on President's Day? And is there a better place than the Old Town Hall in the heart of Fairfax, Virginia? Built in 1900, this small, neoclassical-styled building, with wood pillars sprouting from floor to ceiling in the middle of its main room, brings to mind the same communal assemblies that the Old Dominion was founded on 400 years ago.

It was here that Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii spoke Monday to over 200 supporters gathered ahead of the March 3 Democratic primary.

And gather they did. An hour before she was supposed to speak, a line was already forming down the sidewalk. A man near the front door held a "Tulsi 2020" sign out towards the road. When asked if he was on her staff, he responded that he wasn't even a volunteer for the event; he had brought the sign from home. The other attendees were similarly clad in Tulsi gear, holding signs, wearing shirts, and sporting "Veterans for Gabbard" hats. These were not undecided voters on a curiosity trip, but the enthusiastic base of a candidate most of the people driving past wouldn't even recognize.

A combat veteran and major in the U.S. National Guard, Gabbard has made ending America's policy of "regime change wars" the core of her campaign platform. "She puts peace over war profiteering," said Carl Holland, introducing the candidate to unanimous applause. But on this occasion, foreign policy was not the focus of her stump speech.

"What is it that makes people hate politics?" she asked the crowd after her customary "aloha" greeting. She believes it's the same reasons that she finds it off-putting: "I hate the pay-to-play politics that rules the day in Washington." She hates the hyper-partisanship, the politicians "who love to talk a lot but refuse to actually listen," and the leaders who carelessly "send our nation's sons and daughters off to fight in wars that have nothing to do with our country's national security."

Taking advantage of the holiday, she spoke about being inspired by Abraham Lincoln and his 1858 "House Divided" speech. She described a country still divided today, on matters of politics, race, gender, and even "what cable news channel you watch."

Briefly contrasting what she hates with what she loves, Gabbard said unreservedly, "I love our country. I love the people of this country." Multiple times she used the phrase "Country First" to describe her policies and her movement. The difference in intentions between her slogan and Donald Trump's "America First" would be hard to parse.

Gabbard's example of putting Country First was the First Step Act, a criminal justice bill passed by large bipartisan majorities in December 2018. The law enacted new dignity provisions for prisoners and resulted in the release of 7,000 people. Gabbard described members of her party who "did not want to give Trump a win, who stood in the way of this legislation passing." To those legislators who "put politics ahead of people, shame on you," she said.

For Gabbard, the corruption in the system doesn't stop with her fellow elected officials or the "high-powered lobbyists [who] stack the odds against the people." It includes those in "the corporate media trying to silence our voices because we dare speak the truth" about regime change wars. Like clockwork, when a woman in the audience asked about the OPCW whistleblower who has challenged the United Nations' conclusions about the alleged Douma chemical attack in Syria, members of the print media darted their heads up and scurried closer to the stage to try to get a potentially scandalous soundbite .

Gabbard responded by saying she has sent multiple letters to the OPCW inquiring about the whistleblower situation, but had not yet received satisfactory answers. She promised to keep trying.

The candidate closed her speech by telling the crowd, "You have my personal commitment that as your president, my sole mission every single day will be serving you and only you ." Her strategy for winning the White House would be "not taking people for granted, reaching out, and treating every American with respect."

After answering questions about health care, small business, and climate change, Gabbard stepped away from the podium and her fans lined up for pictures and a handshake. Meanwhile, her husband Abraham walked the room, chatting with people and recording the event on his phone.

In the unscientific poll of raised hands, the attendees were one third Democrat, one third Republican, and one third "independent, Libertarian, or Green." They were overwhelmingly from Northern Virginia or Maryland, with very few from Washington, D.C. Multiple families attended, some of whose kids presented Tulsi with homemade drawings. One family, with their two adolescent children present and husky dog tied up outside, drove all the way from West Virginia.

When everyone had dispersed, The American Conservative was given an opportunity to ask a question. Gabbard has been explicit in her condemnations of "radical Islam," and she's referred to the war on terror as an ideological war as much as a military one. When asked to specify whether she believes the terrorism against the West is the result of religious extremism or if it's a consequence of foreign military interventions and their subsequent blowback, she appeared to lean more to the latter.

"It's a combination of the radical, Wahhabi-Salafist ideology that serves as the fuel and the recruiting ground for terrorist organizations like ISIS and al-Qaeda, that motivates them in their terror actions." Gabbard told TAC , "But it's also when you see how our regime change wars have had a direct impact. Not in going in and defeating terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda, but actually serving to only strengthen them."

A Monmouth poll released the day after her townhall listed Gabbard's support in Virginia at 1 percent. This is similar to the national polls where she places last among the eight candidates still running for the Democratic nomination. Gabbard has previously announced that she's declining to run for reelection to the House (after four terms) and that she's taking her presidential campaign all the way to the Democratic convention in June. Where this will put the 38-year-old come January 2021 is anyone's guess. But whether in the White House or retired from politics, Tulsi Gabbard plans to continue putting Country First.

Hunter DeRensis is a reporter with The National Interest and a regular contributor to The American Conservative. Follow him on Twitter @HunterDeRensis .


JessicaR Martin Ranger 3 days ago
You are raising a valid question about why she is not doing better in the polls. While I have not done a statistical analysis of her press coverage, it appeared to me that the networks have largely shut her out.

After her first debate, I watched CNN coverage of that debate on YouTube and noted the amount of coverage devoted to her. I was struck by how little was said about her. The story included her in a clip of candidates deriding Trump but gave her NO coverage of her other views, in spite of the fact that she did well in the debate and made some sound-byte worthy statements. In contrast, the mainstream candidates got lots of coverage.

It is my impression that this trend has continued throughout the primaries.

It is reminiscent of the ways the networks treat other strong opponents of war. 1, Dennis Kucinich, NBC had a rule that to be on one of their debates-in 2004 if I remember correctly--a candidate had to finish in the top three in a primary. Kucinich finished third in Nevada. NBC changed the rules on him. He took them to court. The court ruled that NBC was a private business and could set their own rules. 2. Bernie Sanders in 2016. The CNN website largely ignored his candidacy until he started winning primaries. When they couldn't ignore him anymore, they ran unflattering photos of him with his mouth open--how else could he talk?-but did not do so for Clinton.

Anyway, that is my impression.

Osse JessicaR 2 days ago
I think the lack of press coverage is part of it. She is also demonized by most liberals and even some leftists. I say “ demonized” because I think at least some of the criticisms are false, but I am not sure about the others.
Alex (the one that likes Ike) MPC 3 days ago • edited
And I think you seriously underestimate the share of antiwar voters nationwide and overestimate the importance of those whom you, inexplicably from the Marxist point of view, call "left". Tulsi now holds a wild card.

She's still under forty, which is almost a senior teenager by modern standards, and already on her way to becoming a kingmaker through being able to guarantee either party's candidates the support of a serious share of voters from both and of independents for years to come.

MPC Alex (the one that likes Ike) 3 days ago

...I do think she would appeal to just the type of person the Dems want to peel away from Trump. She'd be a play for independents.

diverick MPC 2 days ago
I do think she would appeal to just the type of person the Dems want to peel away from Trump.

I would agree only, from what I have seen thus far, her appeal to a possibly significant number of previous Trump voters is seen as a negative in the eyes of Dem activists, pundits, other candidates, etc. The Dems don't seem to have any interest in winning over previous Trump voters, no matter what the reason was for their 2016 Trump vote.

I think a more accurate phrasing of the sentence above would be, "I do think she would appeal to just the type of person the Dems should want to peel away from Trump."

Alex (the one that likes Ike) Collin Reid 2 days ago
The only bridges she burned were those with the Democratic establishment, which is out of touch with reality and is doomed to soon repeat its Republican counterpart's inglorious end. Thus the fact that she burned those bridges actually shows that she, unlike so many other politicians, is capable of, at least, midterm planning. Not to mention that, as I've already said, she, given her strong cross-partisan appeal, can easily become a Republican now.

1) Did Sanders meet UN-recognized leaders of countries, against whom the neocon/neolib clique was waging illegal wars?
2) And that campaigning for Clinton cost Democrats the defection of many Sanders's voters to Trump's camp. Long-term planning, right.
3) 55% under a system which has recently shown how the votes are counted in all of its glory? Impressive.

RadicalCenter Alex (the one that likes Ike) 2 days ago • edited
I applaud Tulsi's anti-war comments and have observed that the establishment media shut her out of meaningful coverage. But there is no reason to think that she can influence any large block of voters and influence them enough to be a kingmaker. Not even close.

Andrew Yang, by contrast, could have some influence, though probably more in pushing the universal basic income idea than in inducing a particularly large number of voters to vote for this candidate or that. But he has achieved more influence than Tulsi for sure.

E_Conegliano MPC a day ago
Can you imagine the look on the face of AOC, Bernie's ambitious surrogate, if Bernie chose Tulsi for VP? IMO, Bernie has hitched his wagon to AOC's rock-star magnetism and Our Revolution's multicultural foot soldiers. No room for Tulsi, who favors closed borders and open discussions in contrast to open borders and PC lectures.
channelclemente 3 days ago
She completely botched the Assad - poison gas issue. She swallowed the propaganda whole cloth, and when it was proven she was just wrong she huffed off in denial.
Collin Reid channelclemente 2 days ago
Yea, that hurt her but the reality was it was crowded Primary with over 20 candidates and Gabbard had limited name recognition going into 2019!
Xanadu channelclemente 2 days ago
Actually, it appears that Americans and Western media bought the propaganda on alleged Assad use of poison gas (vice the al-Qaeda linked "rebels"): https://thegrayzone.com/202...
Osse channelclemente 2 days ago
What are you talking about? If you mean Douma or the OPCW, it is more likely the mainstream which is in denial.
Dodo 3 days ago
Neoconservatives' wars for their own ideologies have exhausted most Americans. They want to stop wars, regardless. In coming economic depression, this view will rampant Eventually, appeasement will happen again.

Neconservatives and their supporters (regardless reasons) deserve this result but how about other Americans?

EdMan 3 days ago
Undoubtedly the finest candidate for president in the race. And by far the most presidential. Her campaign deserves more.
dbriz 3 days ago
If, still a large if, Sanders gets the nomination Gabbard makes a lot of sense as running mate. She appeals to the very votes needed to defeat Trump. Antiwar, libertarian oriented moderates. Any VP candidate with ties to the DNC will work against Sanders.
Collin Reid 2 days ago
????? Gabbard is getting 2 -3% polls in the Democratic Primary and is sort of a candidate who is winning with Democrats that don't like the Party. Frankly I was Gabbard suspect early 2020 but I also realistic enough to know below 40 year candidate with little name recognition tend not to win Primaries their first try. And for a young Gabbard her true goal should have building her name in the current Primary that 20 other candidates. (And given that often incumbents win the Presidency, 2024 could have been a competitive Primary.)

1) Originally I thought her biggest problem was past positions on gay rights and she was definitely behind curve on that one. And getting this weakness out of the way in 'trial test Primary' isn't the worst goal for young House member.

2) Sanders has much more anti-war candidate in 2020 than he was in 2016 so Gabbard message was not a lone voice here.

3) The dumbest thing Gabbard has done is give up her House seat in the completely D safe district in Hawaii. So why would the Sunday shows book an ex-House member in 2021? And the liberal punditry network is not as nearly as strong (or well paying) as the conservative pundits.

Xanadu 2 days ago • edited
I am a former Democrat, grew up lower middle class, and a legal immigrant. While I don't agree with all of her policy positions, I find Tulsi Gabbard's single-minded focus on the costs of foreign intervention THE most resonant/substantive topic for the United States, especially in a political system where Congress/Courts pass domestic legislation, and presidents only have absolute control of foreign policy.

What sets Tulsi a rare breed apart from other progressive Democrats is that she's unwilling to do 180s on core convictions as a reactionary take on Trump. The "whatever Trump is for, I'm against" transformation of Democratic lawmakers and media wonks has led them to support prolonging wars (Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq); red-baiting nuclear stand-offs with Russia; sudden embrace of corporatist "free trade" like TPP; silcening any criticism of anti-women Islamic customs; and even libertarian wet dreams of effectively open borders. Even Bernie is wavering in his long-held convictions.

In response to why Tulsi's campaign hasn't resonated to higher polls, it's important to remember that HER core issue -- anti-foreign intervention, ending forever wars -- remain resoundingly popular. However, her relative low-profile as a Hawaiian congresswoman (compare her favorable support vis-a-vis Julian Castro, for instance), the constant mainstream media attacks (compare her to the Mayor Pete love-fest), and most importantly, her unwillingness to be reflexively anti-Trump, is costing her the support of a feverish, vengeful Democratic primary base.

RadicalCenter 2 days ago
She's a fool for giving up her Congressional seat. She would do better to win re-election to the House, make a national name for herself as the anti-war anti-military-profiteering voice in the Dem Party, and then run for the US Senate when one of the current white-hating establishment scum in the Hawaii Senate delegation finally retires.

Hirono and Schatz took their Senate seats only in 2012 and 2013 and aren't old, unfortunately, but Tulsi is younger at only 38. She can become a fairly senior member of Congress and run to succeed Hirono in say, 2030. Tulsi will then still be only 48.

Fayez Abedaziz 2 days ago
Hi, the main reason the major media went out to try to stop Tulsi's campaign: From the Dem leadership like Pelosi and Schumer, to the folks at CNN, MSNBC and all the network 'news' shows, they worked to stop her because: They are neocons! And she's talking ending wars over there and there!

That goes against hardliners like AIPAC, and in mentioning CNN, for example, Blitzer is a neocon guy and he is foremost an Israeli supporter and so on. What, are we just gonna keep kidding ourselves?

(he came from the Jerusalem Post, was a member of AIPAC.) What, something's wrong with pointing out facts? Shouldn't be.

steve Howell 14 hours ago
She is too liberal for me. And she is for gun control. so now ay would she ever get my vote. I do like some things she says.

[Feb 21, 2020] As an anti-war candidate Tulsi was not invited. She has been denied oxygen in the press, denied a platform in the debates and generally airbrushed out of the picture. No surprise there.

Feb 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Hal Duell , Feb 20 2020 22:36 utc | 60

Bernie would prove to be such a disappointment. The other parrots on the perch not so much as they have brought nothing and will offer the same.

Tulsi was not invited. She has been denied oxygen in the press, denied a platform in the debates and generally airbrushed out of the picture. No surprise there. By speaking out against the forever-wars and against the prison gulag she committed the cardinal sin in US politics: You don't rock the boat, especially when pretending to do so! But how refreshing has her presence been in an otherwise dreary, dreary and predictable, landscape.

karlof1 , Feb 20 2020 22:38 utc | 62

b4real @47--

Thanks for your comment and question. Within US History, there are several such changes of direction, the first coming with the elections that ratified the 1787 Constitution. Second would be the 1800 election that elected Jefferson and ended what's known as the Federalist Era; it's extremely unlikely the Federalists would have made the Louisiana Purchase because of their enmity toward France. In 1828, General Jackson gained the White House amidst the Battle of the Bank, the importance of which is touched on in most survey US History classes but never examined as deeply as it demands. 1844 brought in Polk dedicated to expanding slavery who showed Congress couldn't stop the executive thus showing the vast--and foreseen--problems of an unregulated president as he provoked Mexico and stole 1/2 its territory; Polk was clearly the model for GW Bush. The 4-way election of 1860 showcased the break-up of the National Democratic Party into two factions; brought Lincoln, and the nascent Republican Party, who goaded the South's Fire Eaters to commence the Civil War. The 13-15th amendments greatly altered the national social fabric. In 1896, D-Party candidate WJ Bryan's "Cross of Gold" speech elaborated the concept of Trickle-down Economics and firmly placed the D-Party as the party of the working-classes, which further compounded the D-Party's internal strife between its Northern urban political machines and Southern Segregationist politicos. 1912 again saw a 4-way race as T Roosevelt's split of the R-Party allowed Wilson to win and transfer the management of the government's financial affairs from the Treasury where they belonged to the privately controlled misnamed Federal Reserve Board, the woes of which we feel daily. 1920 saw the reversion from Wilsonian Internationalism to "Normalcy" as traditional US unilateralism regained ascendency with the rejection of the League of Nations. Although not perceived during the 1932 campaign since FDR didn't really know what he was going to do, a return to the social democratic republic commenced with the New Deal Era. 1944 didn't see an immediate change in policy course, but by June 1945 it was clear Truman was no FDR or Wallace; and by October, the Outlaw US Empire was born when the UN Charter came into force which was already being violated by Truman's government--we most certainly wouldn't have the CIA as a result of the 1947 National Security Act if Wallace had continued FDR's term, nor would there have been a Cold War. The only other change in direction (if it can be called that) was the adoption of Neoliberalism by Carter in 1978 and its rapid acceleration by Reagan/Bush which resulted in the Outlaw US Empire being even more aggressive than it was previously, a pace kept alive by the ascension of the Neocons in 2000.

Some of the directional changes occurred due to economic or social strife, but not all, nor arguably were they most important, IMO--1800, 1828, 1860, 1912, 1944. In 1932, if Hoover had regained his office, he would have had to get experimental just like FDR, and the evidence shows he was trying to get things to improve; it's been acknowledged by historians that neither had the intellectual tools required to fix the Depression. Here's a basic listing of the POTUS and there years in office. I should add 1876 as that election marked the end of Reconstruction and the beginning of big money corruption of the federal government. The loss by Bryan and the fused D- and Peoples Party in 1896 informed Conservatives like T Roosevelt and Taft that they had to listen to the people's demands for at least basic regulation of American Capitalism--remember, the first Progressives were Republicans, not Democrats.

Given more time to meditate on the question, I could probably cite further diversions in policy from one administration to the next. But the above provides a good overview. I should highlight Fedrick Jackson Turner's 1893 elucidation of his Frontier Thesis-- "The Significance of the Frontier in American History" --before the American Historical Association at Chicago's Colombian Exhibition since it made a huge impression on that era's elite and certainly prompted policy changes. A week's usually spent in grad seminar's discussing Turner's thesis.

[Feb 21, 2020] The fact that Bernie Sanders is one this stage with the other pro-war imperialists and Tulsi is not is no accident

Feb 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

JC , Feb 20 2020 23:37 utc | 70

Posted by: SharonM | Feb 20 2020 20:29 utc | 41

"Bernie Sanders belonged on that stage with the other pro-war imperialists. With him, we get affordable healthcare, while millions of people around the world will suffer through coups, invasions, bombings, mass murder, and mass displacement. There is absolutely NOTHING (nothing) for an anti-war advocate to get excited about with a Sanders Presidency."

Exactly! I'm surprise even Tulsi Gabbard not invited to the debate many here still wanna her for VP. I an't voting for anyone but Tulsi Gabbard, I hates the Democratic more than Trump and will vote for Trump if necessary.

JC , Feb 20 2020 23:41 utc | 71

http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/

Inside Bernie

Forgot to include Brother Nathanael

[Feb 21, 2020] There is no way Gabbard will be permitted as Sanders' running-mate unless she has totally sold out already.

Feb 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

A User , Feb 21 2020 3:04 utc | 101

Frankly some people here seem to be living in la-la-land where impossible dreams come true.

How about some realpolitik as practiced by both halves of the amerikan empire party when the VP decision time comes around. Does anyone imagine Kennedy wanted Johnson as VP or Bush I, Dan Quayle or Oblamblam the crookedest man in the senate, Joe Biden?

Of course not they were told to take these hacks as a way for 'the party' to keep the hairy eyeball on 'their' Prez.

Let's just pretend for a moment that Sanders came to conference with sufficient delegates that the hope of the DNC to override Sanders with superdelegates was simply too much for the dem party to achieve without alienating a sizable chunk of potential dem voters for life (the odds of that occurring are slimmer than a 2 year old Yemeni, but let's pretend).

Even if Sanders had sufficient delegates to obviate a brokered conference, it wouldn't matter, the DNC would still insist on a 'sit down' with the Sanders crew and insist he took a particular person as his VP. Sanders could refuse, in which case he could expect zero $$$'s for his campaign from the dems and worse the DNC would tell him that the party money, in many cases donated to the DNC by naifs who 'wanted to give Bernie a hand', was going to be spent 'down ticket' assisting all the dem pols up for re-election who were committed to opposing Bernie's favourite policies such as single payer healthcare.

Bernie would be screwed as even if he beat orange moron as he wouldn't stand a shitshow in hell of getting any of these "radical pinko policies" through, which would be justified by the rightist dem senators & congress-creeps saying "Democrat voters, voted for a democratic president not a Marxist president" over and over until the idiots among the public had been sufficiently indoctrinated to believe that tosh. There is no way Gabbard will be permitted as Sanders' running-mate unless she has totally sold out already.

Maybe Sanders should open the bidding with Gabbard, after which the DNC might offer up 'Pete the cheat' to ensure Bernie is defeated, or some other less power-hungry, more malleable dem lick-spittle.
If Sanders is smart enough to play this game, he will already have worded up one or two slightly conservative DC hacks on the qt, then make out he's making a huge compromise by selecting her/him.

He could conceivably get away with that as long as the DNC mobsters are blindsided - remember most of those DC lowlifes will leap at the chance of the veep's gig since it puts you in the inside running to be the prez after yer running 'mate'. And offering it quietly early on would give Sanders the right to insist on blind loyalty - which he prolly wouldn't get totally, but he would have something close to that

Trouble is I don't reckon Sanders has the smarts to pull a rort like that off - we shall see. Whatever he does do the odds are high of him being stymied every time if he does make it


Likklemore , Feb 21 2020 3:25 utc | 102

Posted by: Krollchem | Feb 21 2020 1:55 utc | 92

In reply to my comment on the process, you wrote

"Actually this is not technically correct
and then you quoted Article 2 Section 2 of the Constitution.

You ignored the process

I wrote on the process in which jim and jane mainstreet vote [the 2nd part of the process] to select the State electors to the Electoral College: from Link (Archives.gov) provided @ 24 and fully detailed below:

November 3, 2020 -- Election Day

During the general election your vote helps determine your State's electors. When you vote for a Presidential candidate, you aren't actually voting for President. You are telling your State which candidate you want your State to vote for at the meeting of the electors. The States use these general election results (also known as the popular vote) to appoint their electors. The winning candidate's State political party selects the individuals who will be the electors.[.]

Who selects the electors?

Choosing each State's electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election. Second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State's electors by casting their ballots.

The first part of the process is controlled by the political parties in each State and varies from State to State. Generally, the parties either nominate slates of potential electors at their State party conventions or they chose them by a vote of the party's central committee. This happens in each State for each party by whatever rules the State party and (sometimes) the national party have for the process. This first part of the process results in each Presidential candidate having their own unique slate of potential electors.

Political parties often choose individuals for the slate to recognize their service and dedication to that political party. They may be State elected officials, State party leaders, or people in the State who have a personal or political affiliation with their party's Presidential candidate. (For specific information about how slates of potential electors are chosen, contact the political parties in each State.)

The second part of the process happens during the general election. When the voters in each State cast votes for the Presidential candidate of their choice they are voting to select their State's electors. The potential electors' names may or may not appear on the ballot below the name of the Presidential candidates, depending on election procedures and ballot formats in each State.

The winning Presidential candidate's slate of potential electors are appointed as the State's electors -- except in Nebraska and Maine, which have proportional distribution of the electors. In Nebraska and Maine, the State winner receives two electors and the winner of each congressional district (who may be the same as the overall winner or a different candidate) receives one elector. This system permits Nebraska and Maine to award electors to more than one candidate.[.]

(empasis added)


psychedelicatessen , Feb 21 2020 4:04 utc | 103
Rob @ 99 - I don't think evidence of this form has been archived anywhere on the Internet. I would be particularly interested in seeing how much of a favorite Clinton was in 2016. I doubt she would have been more than 2/3, and the result not as shocking an upset were Trump actually 1/1. In any event, if the favorite an hour before the books closed always won, who then would ever consider the price on an underdog as an overlay? I'm not addressing any prediction of a winner; I'm observing the changes in public opinion as expressed through those who are willing to take a money position along the way. There would be no other prominent reason for Sanders to reclaim over Bloomberg in less than a week, the Democratic candidate top spot in betting odds, than his strong showing Wednesday night.

All of the legal gambling outlets will tend to keep fairly close in sync with changes in odds offered. Any one of them getting significantly out of sync is taking a position, attracting layoff action from one of the others. When someone makes an investment in this type of futures, it's with an eye toward spotting an overlay. That means a current line which is offering too strong a return on the investment. The books have several ways of adjusting. They can change the odds offered, lay off action with each other to balance their money position, or offer early resolution to certain ticket holders. For example, Trump opened at 5/2 and toward the end of 2018 had been bet down to 3/2. He is currently 8/13 which represents an extreme overlay if someone is holding a ticket with 3/2 odds. When this kind of situation occurs, all of the books are likely to sustain a loss. So, they will offer early resolution. A $2000 ticket on Trump at 3/2 will return $5000, however anyone holding this ticket may be offered $2750 today for early resolution. That's an immediate $750 profit for giving back their position.

Now to illustrate just how drastic changes in the futures betting can be, a few hours ago Sanders was 7/2, he's now 10/3. Bloomberg continues to slide, from 4/1 last week to 11/2 a few hours ago to now 7/1. Perhaps Bloomberg will be attractive enough to become an overlay at 10/1? I would consider that price might be worth taking a position on, if one thinks convention shenanigans will place him as the candidate. At that point (if correct) he'll drop to say 8/5 and will return a good profit from early resolution.

The changes in the betting lines appear more discernible to me, than a shift of a few percentage point amongst pollsters. Notice Pence is back on the board, so obviously some people think there's greater than a 300/1 chance Trump is deceased during this term.

Circe , Feb 21 2020 4:33 utc | 104
Aren't you being somewhat disingenuous by selectively nitpicking a few sentences out of Bernie's speech that merely express an opinion, not a declaration of political meddling, intervention or war, while leaving out the positive 90%, like his criticism of Bolsanaro, Netanyahu and Israel's racist unjust policies and his concern for the dire situation in Gaza?

He rails against Saudi Arabia and MBS and the war on Yemen. He's critical of Sheldon Adelson's influence, the Koch brothers and Mercer and the corruption of goverment and the greed they represent. He's critical of the massive amounts of funding spent on the military. That's great, no?

He's sympathetic to the unjust imprisonment of Lula da Silva and talks about the necessity of addressing climate change and poverty and much more. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT??? There's a Ziofascist in the White House right now who just brought on board Richard Grenell for DNI, (ironically mentioned in Bernie's speech last October... prophetic? Yes.), yet another Iranophobe! So you can guess what direction we're headed in?

Out of all the good that Bernie spoke you gripe about that small paragraph and use it to distort as still too aggressive his entire foreign policy vision and pov on issues few in Congress have the spine to address?

You think I'm just going to let slide this perversion of his message?

Just see how so many comments reek with that same type of distortion parotting YOUR CUE. Do you not feel any responsibilty to the truth and to the power your word may have to influence others to misjudge Bernie Sanders unfairly through your distorted lens?

I am sickened reading the comments that emanated from your small paragraph and bet you NO ONE BOTHERED TO READ THE ENTIRE SPEECH IN THE LINK AND RELIED INSTEAD ON THAT DROP FROM POISON PEN TO FORM A TOTALLY IGNORANT, BIASED OPINION.

I'm glad you at least gave him credit for defending well his positions in the midst of multiple attacks in the debate.

If Bernie can withstand the onslaught of unfair, disproportionate establishment and media attacks (your's included) and win the Nomination, it won't be thanks to the majority of you, but you will all in some way benefit from an improvement in foreign policy under a Sanders administration. OR DO YOU ACTUALLY PREFER TO DISCUSS WAR AND ATROCITY AND CONSPIRACY MACHINATIONS HERE ALL DAY, EVERY DAY IN PERPETUITY? Maybe that's the problem, maybe with Bernie as President you'll be less involved as armchair generals and have to settle for criticizing boring diplomacy for a change!

I don't know about you, but I really welcome most of what Bernie talked about and his vision for the future on this planet much more than discussing war with Iran, famine and climate disaster.

Bernie will make it in spite of haters, never Sanders, maligners, and distorters of the truth.

Oh, and he'll DESTROY Trump in November.

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Jared suggests Bloomberg/Gabbard.

Gobbledygook!

I guess you don't really know what Bloomberg's about. And you especially don't get Gabbard! She wouldn't be caught dead working for that Neocon warmonger!

SharonM and Jackrabbit

Get a room you professional koo-koo spinbots...preferrably in another Solar System where you can't damage impressionable minds. Ugh.

Cadence calls , Feb 21 2020 5:04 utc | 105
I feel bad for the Bernie Bros.
He's gonna sell them out again.
Dude has zero pull with his "party", and is facing a steamroller in Trump.
I would be happy to have a small dinner with Circe and friends after the convention.
We can commiserate over a few wodkas and goulash.
SharonM , Feb 21 2020 5:14 utc | 106
@104 Circe

"SharonM and Jackrabbit
Get a room you professional koo-koo spinbots...preferrably in another Solar System where you can't damage impressionable minds. Ugh."

I'm against war. You're obviously just another loser imperialist.

Penelope , Feb 21 2020 5:30 utc | 107
Since medical care figures so prominently in the election, might be a good idea to know why it costs so much now:

The Oligarch Takeover of US Pharma and Healthcare by Jon Hellevig
"The Awara study shows https://www.awaragroup.com/blog/us-healthcare-system-in-crisis/ that in addition to the original sin of corporate greed, the exorbitant costs of the US healthcare system stem from layers upon layers of distortions with which the system is infested. Each part of the healthcare industry contributes to what is a giant monopoly scam: the pharmaceutical companies, medical equipment manufacturers, drug wholesalers, drug stores, group purchasing organizations, health insurance companies, doctors, clinics and hospitals, and even what should be impartial university research. And on top of that, there's the government as a giant enabler of monopolized corporations running roughshod over the American consumer and patient.

"But it is worse than that. All the monopolists (in official parlance, oligopolies) are in turn owned by the same set of investors in what is called horizontal shareholding. The same some 15-20. investors have the controlling stake in all the leading companies of the entire pharma and healthcare industry.

"That's not all. Two of the investors, BlackRock and Vanguard, are the biggest owners in almost every single one of the leading companies.

"Furthermore, BlackRock is owned by Vanguard, BlackRock's biggest owner being a mystical PNC Services, whose biggest owner in turn is Vanguard. Vanguard itself is recorded directly as BlackRock's second biggest owner. Moreover, BlackRock and Vanguard are the two biggest owners of almost all the other 15-20 biggest investors, which most are cross-owned and together own the entire US pharma and healthcare sector. Ultimately, then we might have the situation that the whole healthcare sector and Big Pharma are controlled by one giant oligarch clan (and the very real people who stand behind them), one single interest group of oligarch investors." -- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52658.htm


PS: US is now 33d in life expectancy.

Circe , Feb 21 2020 5:45 utc | 108
Yesterday some dirty dog, Bloomberg or weasel Buttigieg, brought up the fact that Bernie has 2 million, and 3 homes, one in Washington, a house in Vermont his wife inherited from her parents and a cabin by a lake! OMG! QUICK! Call the Socialist police! He's 78, has a career in politics, wrote some bestsellers and he has to live like a monk otherwise, he's a hypocrite???

The hypocrites are the ones criticizing him and not Warren who appeared in Forbes cause she has two expensive homes, and 12 MILLION. But, at the debate she was coy and uncommonly silent when they attacked Bernie for what is perfectly normal given his career, success as an author and his age!

But Lizabeth, she cares so much about poor mothers and babies, and shares Bernie's platform, and yet is too chicken to call herself a democratic socialist. Yeah, with 12 Mil in the bank and different investments she's got a big stake in Capitalism! And someone mentionned that during the commercial break she was getting quite friendly yacking it up with Bloomberg, AFTER she put on the Non-disclosure artifice (watch out for hidden mics, Mike!). And she's not big on democracy either, since she would rather go to a brokered convention, than give Bernie the nomination when he gets the majority of pledged delegates. Screw her!

Oh Lizzie, you showed all your true colors!
DONE, put a fork in it!

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SharonM

Against war and for Trump? 🤣🤣🤣

Trust me, Bernie's not starting any war at his age, and he's from a bucolic state. If you think Bernie's for war and I'm an imperialist, then must be a real bad judge of character.

You fool no one. You hate Bernie for some other stupid reason.

Blue Dotterel , Feb 21 2020 6:19 utc | 109
Really, the Oligarch party composed of the Republican and Democrat branches will not make any significant changes to the status quo, even if Sanders is voted in to the presidency. Sanders' foreign policy is the Oligarch policy; Sanders domestic policy would never get past the Oligarch house without significant watering down to be totally irrelevant. Sanders only "threat" to the Oligarchs is that the presidency would give him a 4-year platform to continue to put forth his semi-socialist domestic views, seeding the brains of the ignorant masses with dangerous thoughts.

Voting for either branch of the Oligarch party is to vote for the status quo. All that is guaranteed are a few cosmetic changes of zero significance. Vote, but vote anyone but the Oligarch Party!

Piotr Berman , Feb 21 2020 7:26 utc | 110
A positive assessment of the chances of Sanders to win the nomination:

"Former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg's presidential campaign called on former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg to drop out of the Democratic presidential primary race in a memo released on Thursday, warning that Bloomberg's presence in the race would propel Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to the Democratic nomination. "

Pete could be more incisive by pointing that unlike his much more financially successful colleague from the race of nomination, he has no track record on making unwanted passes on women, or jokes that cannot be revealed to the publics. More seriously, American establishment is so vast that it is internally divided into various groups or cliques that detest each other. Pete is a darling of CIA circles, Bloomberg is so rich that he nearly makes an influence group by himself., but he may be popular among Wall Street denizens who donate to Metropolitan Opera and snicker at Trump who could not tell Verdi from Barbie doll. On political positions, I wonder if there is an ounce of difference.

YnO , Feb 21 2020 7:41 utc | 111
There is a lot of criticism in these comments about Sanders not going all out against the Democratic Party and playing too nice, but a counterpoint to consider is that we have a perfect example to contrast his behavior with: Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi was vice chair of the DNC and considered one of their "rising stars" in part because of the elites' insipid love of identity politics, and she is demonstrating the country what happens when you go nuclear against the establishment. She burned her political capital to back Bernie in 2016 and went on the attack during the debates she was able to get into. Would Sanders really get better results doing what Tulsi is doing, and if so, why would he going that course be different?
Krollchem , Feb 21 2020 8:27 utc | 112
Likklemore@102

What you describe is what is generally done. If the State legislature chooses to ignore the vote then your argument is not valid.

Please see the US Constitution that I linked...

james , Feb 21 2020 8:29 utc | 113
@95 sharon.. thanks.. that sounds reasonable.. however at present either one of the war parties is going to win.. i suppose some will think bernie i war party lite or something, but regardless if he gets the nod - which i highly doubt - the war party is still in control.. something bigger has to happen for this to change.. collapse is a popular fantasy for some.. i am not sure if or when that could happen too.. it is hard being reasonable in this atmosphere.. i am inclined to more radical thinking as the answer at this point..
BM , Feb 21 2020 8:58 utc | 114
"It's time to give the elites a bigger say in electing the President"

Under Trump Bezos lost highly profitable interests, and under a second Trump term he would likely lose still more. If any of the elites' choices get the Dem nomination, Trump is certain to win. Perhaps Bezos' reasoning was to try to provoke Dem supporters to reject the elites because that is the only chance of getting back the business interests he lost.

Bezos is a nasty piece of work indeed, but to his credit, maybe he at least sees the need of a more acceptable candidate.

Seer , Feb 21 2020 10:26 utc | 115
"They" have thrown down everything against Sanders yet he continues to rise. His support base is HUGE. Competition can't touch him. His victories will put him up so much that the DNC is rendered powerless.

Of all the candidates, Tulsi Gabbard is far away the closest in ideology to Sanders. She entered the race with Bernie's approval, before Bernie announced. Bernie knows that Tulsi is the only one (other than Nina Turner) that would totally have his back. I actually believe that Gabbard is the best candidate that the US has had in a LONG time. If she were selected as VP she would get a lot more exposure; the more exposure the more support she gets. I don't believe that Bernie needs to pick a VP in order to garner more votes; that is, it's not as strategically necessary as other candidates have required: I repeat: Bernie's base is HUGE. Tulsi is a BIG insurance policy. VP isn't a do-nothing position: it can cast a tie-breaking vote in the senate; it can act as collaborator with POTUS. In a more correct positioning of talents it would be Gabbard as POTUS and Sanders as VP. I'd be happy to see Nina Turner as VP but am worried that the pairing with Sanders would create too stark of a picture, one open to really ugly attacks: it's hard to attack Tulsi given her military experience (I hate that this needs to be played, but it's the reality we face). AND there's the VP debates: Tulsi vs Pence would be one for the history books.

Paco , Feb 21 2020 10:29 utc | 116
Turkey closed its airspace to russian airplanes flying to Syria and slowed down the so called Syrian Express. The straights would be closed in case of declared war but the flow can be slowed down by other means. Hard to think that war will be officially declared with all the joint projects in energy, but logistics would be a real problem for Russia if things get uglier.
http://www.ng.ru/politics/2020-02-20/1_7800_bosphorus.html
The second question of the 20 series to Putin is about Ukraine, as usual he comes across as well informed and with ease of verve.
https://putin.tass.ru/ru/ob-ukraine/
jared , Feb 21 2020 11:21 utc | 117
Circe

I guess you don't really know what Bloomberg's about. And you especially don't get Gabbard! She wouldn't be caught dead working for that Neocon warmonger!

Please advise - What is Bloomberg about.
In my experience he is a conservative moderate.
Do we just describe everyone we dont like as zionist?

Willy2 , Feb 21 2020 11:34 utc | 118
- The american writer Thomas Frank has put this way: The Democrats had every opportuniy to win the presidential election of 2016 by focussing on the people in "fly-over land", on the people who felt "left bhind" but instead they focussed on the "creative class" (laywers, the "professional class", hollywood and people from the tech sector (GOOGLE, Facebook, etc.).

- It was the presidential campaign of Trump who saw the chance to win over the people from "fly-over country".

Willy2 , Feb 21 2020 11:38 utc | 119
@Jared (#117):

- Yes, Bloomberg is a moderate republican but he is also an establishment figure/person. So, he won't be the one that will bring about MAJOR changes that are going to hurt that same establishment. Including the "zionists" (with or without quotation marks).

Willy2 , Feb 21 2020 11:47 utc | 120
- The people who are commenting on this topic should take into account one thing. Over the years the Republican party has purged the party of "moderate Republicans". As a result of that Republican party shifted more and more to the right side of the political spectrum.
William Gruff , Feb 21 2020 12:18 utc | 121
About Butt-gig...

If you were running a giant organized crime group with cash flow in the hundreds of $billions, with tentacles deeply penetrating all of the mass media, with connections at the top of all major western multinational corporations, and you wanted to "manage" the political system of the country that finances the military that you occasionally need, how would you do that?

Run you own candidates, of course!

So it is 2015. You've already gotten one of your candidates elected twice, and you are confident that mass media cultivated "identity politics" played a big part in getting him into the White House. Because of this you are now running another "identity politics" compliant candidate, but you have some tricks up your sleeve to guarantee she wins. Most importantly you have an utter heel running against her who cannot possibly win.

So you [big mafia don] are confident that you have the 2016 and 2020 elections sewn up, but even though it is only 2015, now is the time to be thinking about 2024. You've already used up the woman and Black man identity issues, so what next? The gay man "identity politics" angle, of course! So now you need to introduce to the public a gay candidate that is under your control so the public can start to get used to him and he can become widely known by the time campaigning starts in 2023.

Remind me now when it was that Butt-gig "came out" as gay? Oh, yeah, that's right! It was 2015. He then "married" in 2018.

"But Butt-gig is so young!"

Sure. Realize that he wasn't supposed to be running until 2024, when he would be in his forties. 2016 and 2020 were supposed to be Clinton's turn in the White House, but things went all sideways for some reason. Now you have to move up the timetable.

Butt-gig is CIA.

Willy2 , Feb 21 2020 12:43 utc | 122
- Bernie Sanders has promised FREE education/college and FREE Healthcare. Although I have SERIOUS doubts how he is going to pay for all that FREE stuff, the large support he enjoys shows very well how Joe Sixpack is thinking about his own economic situation.
- There were A LOT OF voters who voted first for Sanders in the primaries. When it became clear that Sanders wasn't going to be the Democratic candidate these voters votes for Trump in november 2016.
Piotr Berman , Feb 21 2020 12:50 utc | 123
Blue Dotterel is not satisfied: >>Sanders only "threat" to the Oligarchs is that the presidency would give him a 4-year platform to continue to put forth his semi-socialist domestic views, seeding the brains of the ignorant masses with dangerous thoughts.

Voting for either branch of the Oligarch party is to vote for the status quo. All that is guaranteed are a few cosmetic changes of zero significance. Vote, but vote anyone but the Oligarch Party! Sanders only "threat" to the Oligarchs is that the presidency would give him a 4-year platform to continue to put forth his semi-socialist domestic views, seeding the brains of the ignorant masses with dangerous thoughts.<<

But the oligarchy and sectors close to oligarchy are already worried exactly about that. For example, certain David Brook is almost morose. A nightmare that is at least 170 years old reappeared:

>>Bernie Sanders is also telling a successful myth: The corporate and Wall Street elites are rapacious monsters who hoard the nation's wealth and oppress working families. This is not an original myth, either. It's been around since the class-conflict agitators of 1848. It is also a very compelling us vs. them worldview that resonates with a lot of people.

When you're inside the Sanders myth, you see the world through the Bernie lens.
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This brings memories... agitators of 1848, revolution spread around Europe, Hapsburgs quelling a revolution in Vienna only to watch Hungary, nearly half of the empire, raising in rebelion that lasted until Czar send help a year later, stimulating dense Romantic poetry that till today children in Central Europe are forced to learn. Final stanza translated into English (it has a very compelilng rhytm in the original)

[the funeral of an agitator of 1848 turns into a march of specters that disturb comfortable city dwellers]
And we shall drag on the funeral procession, saddening sleeping cities
Banging upon gates with urns, whistling into the notches of hatchets
Until the walls of Jericho fall like logs
Fainting hearts shall be revived; nations shall clear their musty eyes

Onward-Onward

Clueless Joe , Feb 21 2020 13:04 utc | 124
William Gruff:
So, do you basically imply that the next run, after Black, Woman and Gay, would be Latino? In which case they actually planned well ahead and AOC could be their card for 2032? Or would that be too far-fetched? (she seems to go a bit too far into leftism for that after all)
SharonM , Feb 21 2020 13:14 utc | 125
@108 Circe

"SharonM
Against war and for Trump? 🤣🤣🤣
Trust me, Bernie's not starting any war at his age, and he's from a bucolic state. If you think Bernie's for war and I'm an imperialist, then must be a real bad judge of character. You fool no one. You hate Bernie for some other stupid reason."

Here are some relevant questions with Bernie's answers:

*Question: Would you consider military force to pre-empt an Iranian or North Korean nuclear or missile test?
Sanders: Yes.

*Question: Would you consider military force for a humanitarian intervention?

Sanders: Yes.

*Question: If Russia continues on its current course in Ukraine and other former Soviet states, should the United States regard it as an adversary, or even an enemy?

Sanders: Yes.

*Question: Should Russia be required to return Crimea to Ukraine before it is allowed back into the G-7?

Sanders: Yes.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2020/02/14/sanders-tells-new-york-times-he-would-consider-a-preemptive-strike-against-iran-or-north-korea/

Don't care about your dumb opinion, Circe. But I don't want anyone else here to think I'm some supporter of the U.S. regimes two war parties. Bernie is just like Trump, Obama, the Bush and Clinton families--warmongering assholes all of them.

SharonM , Feb 21 2020 13:20 utc | 126
@113 James
I agree. An actual revolution here would probably require masses of people on the verge of starvation. But perhaps there's a trigger event that we can't foresee?
Victor , Feb 21 2020 13:49 utc | 127
As long as Sanders treats Latin America with respect, I will vote for him. He just said that he backs Evo Morales in Bolivia. That is a good sign.
john , Feb 21 2020 13:59 utc | 128
Willy2 @ 122 says:

Bernie Sanders has promised FREE education/college and FREE Healthcare. Although I have SERIOUS doubts how he is going to pay for all that FREE stuff,...

he's not.

and there's the rub, or the common denominator between domestic policy and foreign policy...i.e. lucre (and hellfire missiles are so much sexier , right?).

if a candidate is not clamoring loudly that the defense budget must be cut by at least 50%, he or she is being disingenuous, if not downright deceptive, about enacting any kind of national healthcare, education, or whatnot.

Jackrabbit , Feb 21 2020 14:10 utc | 129
james @113:
[If Bernie wins] the war party is still in control.. i am inclined to more radical thinking ... at this point.

When reasonable, level-headed people like james are "inclined to more radical thinking" then the establishment is really in trouble.

Will they take heed? Nah, they'll just send out more Circe dembots.

!!

Circe , Feb 21 2020 14:25 utc | 130
@125 SharonM

If you were an anti-war candidate running for President of a militarized security state that is so easily brainwashed by half a billion dollars in ads run by a war-mongering Ziofascist and one of the highest-circulated Zionist-run propaganda rags asked trap questions to test their definition of patriotism on you, you too would go through the motions and give them what they wanna hear so they would leave you the fock alone for the rest of the campaign.

Now, if you're looking to blow in 15 minutes your years in the making efforts to win the Presidency and use your power to change that security state mentality, then you would stupidly answer what you're suggesting.

You're a Trumpbot. AND I COULD GIVE A SHET WHAT YOU THINK.

Bernie wants to restore the Iran deal, and do diplomacy with Iran, and substantially reduce military spending. Bernie is as anti-war a politicisn as I've seen in my lifetime. I'll bank on his wisdom over your intellectual dishonesty ANY DAY, ANY TIME, ANY WHERE. Unlike you, a lousy judge of character, or just plain demonizing Trumpbot on a fool's mission, I am an excellent judge of character who had Ziofascist Trump pegged from day one and took two years of flak for it! Today, I've been vindicated in every way. Ziofascist Trump is the agent provocateur in the Middle East unilaterally, repeatedly resorting to multiple acts of war against the Palestinians, Syria, Iraq and Iran. If he didn't trigger war yet, it's not for lack of trying! Everyone is wisely on hold prevailing on their cool-headedness hoping Americans elect a SANE, and more humane President, and that President will be Bernie Sanders.

When Bernie shuts the door on that lunatic's orange-cake face the entire planet will breathe A COLLECTIVE SIGH.

Now go bark your fake purist bullshet at someone stupid enough to fall for it. I'm a firewall for the truth and you're barking up the wrong tree and messing with someone berning for justice.

PRESIDENT BERNIE SANDERS

Get used to it; it's happening.

clickkid , Feb 21 2020 14:40 utc | 131
@ Circe | Feb 21 2020 14:25 utc | 130

If Sanders actually got into the Presidency and threatened established interests, then he would be given a non-refusable invitation to vist Dallas and drive past the Texas Shoolbook Depositary.

clickkid , Feb 21 2020 14:43 utc | 132
Or even the:

Texas schoolbook depository

SharonM , Feb 21 2020 14:43 utc | 133
@130 Circe

Oh sure, Bernie is just playing 4d chess, right? We've been hearing that for years about Trump as he bombs countries, assassinates people, and overthrows governments. We'll have to relive it all hearing about Bernie's grand scheme to undermine the MIC by doing exactly what the MIC wants. You're just another fake following a warmonger.

Blue Dotterel , Feb 21 2020 14:49 utc | 134
Piotr Berman,

"But the oligarchy and sectors close to oligarchy are already worried exactly about that. For example, certain David Brook is almost morose. A nightmare that is at least 170 years old reappeared"

Well if Sanders does manages to get the Dem. nomination, then go ahead and vote for him. Just, do not expect anything to change during his administration.

Otherwise, if someone else gets it, Sanders will be put out to pasture, and no one will hear from him again. He was pretty quiet the past three years. For Sanders, and his domestic ideas to blossom, he needs to be able to win the presidency, not just run for it. This is why the Oligarchy will probably tank him. Right now, very few people in the US are politically active. It is only the primaries after all. They are mostly ignored by the vast majority of the electorate despite CNN's propaganda polls (which read only 52% interest anyway). In fact, US elections for pres are regularly ignored by almost half the population, anyway.

If anyone else gets the dem nomination, there is no point voting for the Oligarch Party.

Circe , Feb 21 2020 14:52 utc | 135
@117 jared

Do you realize the damage you're doing to your credibility and reputation tooting Bloomberg's horn here?

Bloomberg is a rabid Zionist who defied a flight ban making a cruel, pompous spectacle of himself flying into Tel Aviv during Israel's massive criminal assault on Gaza while vociferously supporting Israel's shelling of children, schools and hospitals.

Bloomberg is a Ziofascist Israel shill Neocon BUSH jr REPUBLICAN. Complete Presidential disqualification in one sentence.

Now run along with your leaky can of Bloomberg whitewash.

Sheesh, how pathetic!

Likklemore , Feb 21 2020 14:57 utc | 136

Posted by: Krollchem | Feb 21 2020 8:27 utc | 112

If the State legislature chooses to ignore the vote then your argument is not valid.

Please see the US Constitution that I linked...

And you continue to ignore Process. Well, in Constitutional Law courses that very scenario is addressed. In Law, Process matters.

if the State legislature choses to ignore the vote.."[..]
if not members of the Parties elected to the Legislature, pray tell how is the Legislature comprised?

You do know when (ahead of the general election) the Republicans and Democratic Parties appoint their respective representative slate of electors they take into account Party Loyalists who are pledged to vote the presidential ticket?

On pledges of the electors: 29 states have laws forbidding the electors to violate their pledges.

In recent history: December 2016, Trump had the required electoral votes and the Hillary Mob attempted a full-throated campaign to have some of the Republican electors switch their votes at the Electoral College!!

How did that work out?

There were 7 "Faithless electors" who ignored their pledges. Oeps of the 7: five defected Democratic-loser Clinton and two the Republican president- elect. [Cases are on appeal before the Supreme Court; to be heard in 2019-2020 term]

When the Electors' switchero campaign did not succeed, Russiagate was the lever to frustrate Trump's presidency. Russiagate will continue as long as the orangeman occupies the White House.

Walter , Feb 21 2020 15:03 utc | 137
WP > "...After a senior U.S. intelligence official told lawmakers last week that Russia wants to see President Trump reelected..."

UNZ> "...Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Vice President Biden are being told that if they do not get out of the race and clear the lane for the mayor, they will get a socialist as their nominee, and the party will deserve the fate November will bring -- a second term for Trump..."

Now then, when will the intel dudes claim Buttboi and Buyiden and Klob are commie agents? Why already Wally suspects Putin's on the secret Badenov Shoe-phone with his vast army of verraters... I mean, there must be Some Truth, right?

And if (mirabele dictu) Burner get's 'lected and avoids Dallas... if that, then how will they change the story and tell us Burner is a Putin controlled Putin versteher?

("We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." (CIA Director Casey)

Karlofi mooted Beard's "Republic"... A proud attempt by Beard, but, alas (!) it reads like a sad comic... Painful.

Perhaps one interesting point there though > Lincoln's first inaugural.

I'll leave that for K-Man to discuss, if he likes.

Jackrabbit , Feb 21 2020 15:08 utc | 138
I'm all for disrupting the Democratic Party by voting for Sanders in the Primary.

But anyone that thinks that Sanders will be allowed to actually win the Primary is smoking something. And anyone that thinks that Sanders isn't working with the Democratic establishment to accomplish their goals is snorting something.

Sanders is there as window-dressing and to lure young voters into the Democratic Party fold as a "Democracy Works!" ploy (a form of 'stay in school' PSA) .

The Democratic Party won't actually nominate him because Americans would vote for Bernie's anti-oligarch program in droves. Anyone with any sense knows that the oligarchs have too much money and too much power and that government services monied interests instead of the people.

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We are now in a new Cold War. And we are on the brink of ANOTHER major war in the Middle East. It's long-past time to see through the bullshit propaganda, fakery, and scheming.

!!

Circe , Feb 21 2020 15:23 utc | 139
Copy/paste Jackrabbit who hasn't hatched an original thought in quite some time tries to project his professional troll gig on me. Dembot? Is that all you could come up with?

As with Bernie, I might be more like, hmmm... how would I describe myself?

The Dems worst nightmare⁉️ 😜

...soon to become the Trump-era TERMINATOR.

or, better yet, Circe unleashed.

Walter , Feb 21 2020 15:23 utc | 140
Jackrabbit | Feb 21 2020 15:08 utc | 138

"Smokin' ??"

"...This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it..."

Wally is a bit shocked...here's Lincoln saying the Revolution is a Right... And he wuz smokin...what?

But yes, context matters...read the entire document>

First Inaugural Address of Abraham Lincoln

MONDAY, MARCH 4, 1861
Fellow-Citizens of the United States: (avalon / yale / edu an' all of that)

Copeland , Feb 21 2020 15:55 utc | 141
All the slander being heaped upon Bernie is not going to drain one jot of energy from the momentum of his campaign. The trolls desire above all for a tide of chaos to wash over the country. The energy in this movement is going play out on the convention floor and beyond; and the spirit of the people is not about to be diminished or crushed.

It is best not to give up on the struggle, especially when the stakes have been made so clear as Bloomberg plants the flag of oligharchy in this election. Only Sanders and Warren had the decency to react with moral vigor to this outrage.

This is far from over. This is just getting interesting.

William Gruff , Feb 21 2020 16:29 utc | 142
Clueless Joe @124

Correct, as I see it that would be too far-fetched. I cannot see AOC being managed opposition, even if her behavior doesn't seem very leftish sometimes. The establishment's biggest concern with their management of the political process is to make sure that some of the things that AOC discusses remain outside the scope of acceptable political discourse. See Willy2 above with his "Free stuff!" narrative for how the establishment wants people to react... the establishment wants to prevent the public from even considering reallocating resources away from the military and corporate subsidies to so-called "Free stuff!" While AOC's ideology and support for Pelosi and such might leave some leftists unimpressed, the fact that she even discusses free-at-the-point-of-use healthcare and education as well as living wages strongly suggests that she is not part of the establishment's operation.

I honestly do not think the establishment has any plans for pandering very much to Latin American identity... there is far too much revolution in that identity. My guess is that the plans post-Butt-gig are to mix things up... say a Black lesbian or Black transsexual, for instance. Keep in mind this would be planned for 2028 (previously 2030) so whoever they have in mind would only be starting to get publicly groomed for the job now. The potential individuals may not have even had their debutante unveiling to the public yet.

fnord , Feb 21 2020 16:40 utc | 143
@Copeland, 141
The trolls desire above all for a tide of chaos to wash over the country.

Well, true, but we don't need much help. The Sanders campaign has been a gift to socialists who can piggy-back off of his demolition of decades of John Birch Society indoctrination against socialism. But as far as I'm concerned, that's the only good thing he's done. Him losing will be better for socialists - who can benefit from his supporters flocking to our organizations - rather than him winning and forcing us to take him in as "our guy" or us being tarred with any failures of his presidency.

William Gruff , Feb 21 2020 17:01 utc | 144
"[Sanders] losing will be better for socialists..." --fnord @143

Not good strategy. People are not ready to go for real revolution yet. They need to try half measures first and see those half measures fail or be attacked and defeated by the oligarchs. Sanders losing will cause many people to either drop out of the movement or switch to the far right. Sanders victory is needed just to show the masses that victory is possible. People pursue socialist revolution out of a sense of optimism and open possibilities, not desperation. Desperation leads to fascism.

Circe , Feb 21 2020 17:03 utc | 145
Uh-Oh, Jackrabbit just got scorched by Walter's bern brilliance.

I'm a lover of pithy truth, and here's one to describe Bernie's movement:

The real revolution is the evolution of consciousness.

Here's one to prepare for Trump's Bernie strategy:

When a narcissist can no longer control you, they will instead try to control how others see you.

(In other words, always keep in mind; they're coming at you from a position of weakness.)

In my words:

The key to triumph over evil is to take the fight into the light and INSPIRE ALLEGIANCE.

That's Bernie's strength, and that's why Bernie Sanders will become the 46th President of the United States.


Circe , Feb 21 2020 17:28 utc | 146
While Trump boasts he's the master of 4D chess; he will be outplayed by Bernie Sanders, the 4D Master of CHESED .

Bernie Sanders will defeat Donald J. Trump to become President of the United States.

[Feb 21, 2020] What are Tulsi chances to be Sanders VP or the Secretary of State?

Feb 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kali , Feb 20 2020 17:54 utc | 11

Many of Sanders supporters on Twitter will tell you that his foreign policy utterances are what "he has to do" so that the media doesn't increase their attacks on him. They say it is a con. A lot of others like the people at WSWS disagree completely. I don't know for sure, but it does make sense to play along with the establishment while you don't have power. And Tulsi is part of the Sanders Institute. As for Tulsi being VP, there would be unanimous outrage like you have never seen from so many liberals because Hinduphobia is rampant among so many of them. This explains how they have have been conned by a smear psy-op against Tulsi Gabbard: Anatomy of A Smear: How Liberals Have Become Willing Dupes of Foreign Political Psy-Ops

Adrian E. , Feb 20 2020 18:08 utc | 14

I find some of Sanders' answers about foreign policy extremely hawkish:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/politics/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy.html

The most extreme thing is that Sanders would consider military force to prevent even just a missile test.

He also says he would "consider" "humanitarian interventions" without saying anything about those "humanitarian interventions" based on lies that led to deterioration of the humanitarian situation.

Under normal situations, I would think that Sanders' foreign policy positions should disqualify him. But we are talking here about the United States of America, a country with extreme disregard for international law, and it is probably correct that all other candidates who have a chance of being elected would be even worse (compared to the extremists Biden, Bloomberg, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg, Sanders' hawkishness and aggressive rhetoric against Russia seems relatively harmless). Compared to Trump, Sanders is probably the lesser evil.

But I doubt he will be inclined to go against the neocons who dominate the foreign policy establishment and the secret services.

I used to think that if Sanders is president, Gabbard could be Secretary of State or vice president. But now, I think this is unlikely. First because of many jingoistic statements by Sanders, but second also because polls show that Tulsi Gabbard seems to be quite unpopular among the US population. It seems that, while in Sanders' case the smears in the media don't work well because people already know Sanders well enough, in Gabbard's case, the smears seem to have worked. Sanders probably will not want to burden his administration with someone who is so hated by a large part of the Democratic electorate.

I think Tulsi Gabbard will be needed for something else if Sanders is elected, for pressuring Sanders from outside the government.

NemesisCalling , Feb 20 2020 19:35 utc | 32
The question is not if Sanders should choose Gabbard as V.P., the question is why he wouldn't, and that my friends will tell you all you need to know about Sanders and his genuine interest in leading this country.

If Gabbard is left off his ticket he will lose. If he chooses her, it will excite the left like nobody's business and he will cruise to victory utilizing the antiwar vote that got Trump into office.

But...you do have the establishment left who may not want anything to do with the antiwar and populist conjoinment of Sanders/Gabbard. It may be too world-shaking for them and they may throw their lot in with Trump.

Either way, I think we are in good shape, barring a full Neocon push to colonize Trump's presidency.

bevin , Feb 20 2020 19:40 utc | 33
It is very curious that there seems to me something approaching unanimity-among the commenters- that Sanders is the candidate who is least trustworthy.
I note that Jackrabbit even wheels out his old "Bernie the sheepdog" routine despite the fact that the rest of the Democrats continue to do all that they can to sabotage his campaign, ensuring that his supporters, when cheated in Convention, are going to walk out. Which, for those unacquainted with the logistics of pastoral agriculture, is not what sheepdogs-employed to gather the flocks together and deliver them to be clipped or butchered-do.
Of course the issue is imperialism. But imperialism is not an ideological but a material matter: among the material bases of the Empire is the superstition that the United States is under constant military threat and that, unless Americans voluntarily impoverish themselves, by giving vast sums to the MIC, they will lose everything. And the world will disintegrate. To undermine imperialism in the United States it is necessary to empower the only forces that can defeat the MIC-the masses, taxpayers working hours a week for the trillion dollar defense budget and workers afraid to stop making the rich ever richer and themselves poorer, less secure and more vulnerable.

Sanders challenges this view. And he does so from a very old-fashioned position. He is arguing that social and economic security should be the first priorities of government and that, in order to defend the constantly threatened benefits that exist and to extend them to such popular areas as healthcare and free tuition, it is necessary to restore the freedom to organise that existed before Taft Hartley.
The DNC and the anti Sanders forces are the current iteration of the coalition of Republican reactionaries and the Tammany/Jim Crow bosses that brought about Taft Hartley and the Cold War, the twin foundations of imperialist politics in the United States for more than seventy years.
As to Israel Sanders' position is one that is utter anathema to the Zionists- a clue being the enormous resources they are mobilising against him. A call for 'peace' and an end to the 'conflict' being the one policy that not only appeals to public opinion but cannot be countenanced by any of the Israeli parties all of which have committed their all to eradicating all traces of Palestine and dominating the middle east.

Robert Shule , Feb 20 2020 19:44 utc | 34
In the Nevada debate I noticed how the candidates other than Bernie at many times were talking into the cameras and over the heads of the people in the audience while garbling out their resumes about how they are the best candidate to beat Trump as if that was the debate question put to them. In doing so, I think they are really out boot-licking for super delegates.
Piotr Berman , Feb 20 2020 19:46 utc | 35
Sanders is a pro-war imperialist, clearly.

Posted by: SharonM | Feb 20 2020 18:57 utc | 28

Sanders does not seem a pro-war imperialist, and he has SOME positive statements on foreign policy now, and according to my observations in 2016, we is not interested in foreign policy and he wants to fight on one front. He also detests the leadership of Israel, but given his roots etc. he did not want to say anything on that, just some isolated statement when confronted in meetings with voters.

Now that he expected to be a front runner he hired the most progressive chaps from the mainline Democratic think tanks, and clearly, you can take them from CAP etc. but you cannot totally remove CAP etc. out of them. Coming from environment where "muscular liberals" keep taunting "so do you love dictators", after few years you prepare "appropriate defenses".

"Yes" on "Would you consider military action if Iran or North Korea did X" was a typical weaseling. "Not considering war under ANY circumstances" is still a third rail in American policies. So one "Yes" was placed in the questionaire. But he also had a long paragraph about diplomacy first, last resort, requesting advise and approval from Congress, so it was formal "considering", not "willingness". Your can interpreted differently, and that was the whole purpose.

I would ask something about economic warfare, sanctions etc., like how he would weight "applying pressure on regimes" versus "welfare of the population", how much of deprivation is too much. And selection criteria for the list of "regimes". Do absolute monarchies get exemption, perhaps on the account of reigning by the grace of G..d? When do we "worry" about events during vote counting (no worry on Honduras, grave concern on Bolivia). And so on.

Jackrabbit , Feb 20 2020 20:05 utc | 36
bevin @33: It is very curious ...

Well, it's very curious that Sanders accepts the party line on Russiagate/Russian meddling.

And it's very curious that Sanders attacks Maduro as a Dictator that must be removed.

And it's very curious that Sanders' bill to prevent US support for the war on Yemen had big loopholes.

And Sanders' 2016 campaigning was also very curious for his amazing deference to Hillary.

Also curious: how Sanders' candidacy is used as Democracy Works! propaganda to shore-up a corrupt. EMPIRE-FIRST political system.

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If WE can all see that the Democratic Party is scheming to have a brokered convention, WHY CAN'T BERNIE SEE IT? Well, of course he sees it. But he doesn't do anything about it. He plays into it by stressing his support for 'party unity'.

!!

lysias , Feb 20 2020 20:05 utc | 37
Gabbard as VP would be Sanders's best insurance against being assassinated.
Piotr Berman , Feb 20 2020 20:05 utc | 38
Jackrabbit, are you quoting someone or yourself, you use quotation paragraphs without attributing to anyone.

Concerning tactical advise, I do not think that you tested it on "focus groups" or in any other way. Identity politics is a third rail in the territory to the left and center of the political centrum. Some aspects are OK, like changing attitude to work place sexual harassment or even demeaning. Shaming homosexual is medieaval (going back to a ancient Greek attitudes could be a step to far).

But there is a need to avoid alienating working class people who do not ascribe to political correctness. But what would you like to give up as an issue? The right to terminate pregnancy? Sanders made a choice that I fully approve: prying guns from the hands of the working people is a futile, alienating, and he did not win so many elections in a rural state full of hunters by trying that. He is correctly accused of never advocating gun control. But you cannot run in Democratic party AGAINST gun control, not because of DNC and other sinister powers (although they love the issue) but there is a wide constituency for it. As a hiker, I appreciate extensive state forests and game reserves created because of the wide support from the hunters, and the fact that the hunting in my state is forbidden on Sunday. "And on the seventh day thou shall hike".

Once I thought about a compromise good for running in the South, namely, why not agree to hand some commandments in public building, say, 5 out of 10? One could make a referendum choosing the "top 5".

waste , Feb 21 2020 0:06 utc | 75
Thanks b for watching the debate for us :)

Even if sanders gets the nomination (a very very big if), don 't expect him to go all anti-systemic at all, more the opposite I would say. So Tulsi for VC is like a red herring, he would probably choose a "moderate" for VC.

The following article is a very interesting one, showing the type of socialist sanders is. His ideas about socialism are closer to the european socialdemocratic system after the 90s , and we all know what a trainwreck that is.

https://libcom.org/library/bernie-sanders-paradox-when-socialism-grows-old

M , Feb 21 2020 0:52 utc | 80
Tulsi won't be getting the hypothetical VP nod. Conservative voters may like her, but true-blue Democrats absolutely despise her. (You can thank the Clinton faction for both.) If Sanders picked her, the noisiest elements of the media would scream RUSSIA until their throats bled.

Sanders won't move very far rightward on the policy front as the general election approaches, which means he needs to appease the Sensible Liberals through other means. Bellicose rhetoric w/r/t Russia serves that purpose, and allows him to push back against insinuations that he benefited from or abetted Russia's Great Election Heist of 2016. Today's rhetoric may not become tomorrow's policy, though I won't be holding my breath.

The Jackrabbits who think Sanders doesn't stand a chance of being nominated are underestimating the ineptitude and unpopularity of the Democratic Party, the depth of which may somehow overcome even the most strenuous attempts at fixing the race's outcome. Sheepdog though he may be, I'm hoping to see Sanders herding politicians instead of voters come next February.

[Feb 21, 2020] This is a Class War, and we need everyone to come to the barricades and the polling stations!!

Feb 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Feb 20 2020 20:43 utc | 43

bevin @33--

Thanks for that bit of analysis!

I'll forever argue that the United States of America's government was designed to be a social democratic republic. Proof of this deliberate design is found within the rationale for the federal government as stated in the Constitution's Preamble:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

I'll argue that establishing Justice and insuring domestic Tranquility means not to promote policies that result in economic divisiveness and massive disparities of wealth--what that hell's tranquil or justified about Bloomberg owning as much wealth as @160 million people: almost 1/2 of the populous?!?! How is it possible to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity in the face of such unjust, immoral disparities?! And I could go on and rant a lot more, but I think my point's made. Clearly, the best political weapon and campaign asset Sanders could deploy is the Preamble and argue that the Oligarchs and their Establishment are UnAmerican at best and Traitors at worst.

As I wrote the other day echoing Solomon and Sanders, it's a Class War, and we need everyone to come to the barricades and the polling stations!! And the naysayers better get the hell out-of-the-way or be trampled underneath the masses clamoring for a huge change in direction, which we might call back to fundamentals.

[Feb 21, 2020] Democrat dog and pony is designed to bury Tulsi and Sanders

Feb 21, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Master Slacker , 20 February 2020 at 02:41 PM

The longer this Democrat dog and pony show continues the more I have a sense that it is a false flag operation whereby the most unelectable (Feel the Bern) is being raised while the most competitive (Tulsi Gabbard) has been shunted aside leaving no trace.
Tom Milton , 20 February 2020 at 04:51 PM
Master Slacker et al

Was privileged to attend a Tulsi Town Hall last evening in Colorado Springs.

Very impressive from start to finish. Estimate 300 attended, many young military, and many there identified as Republicans including a former CO State Senator.

Try to catch this wonderful candidate in person. Her positions are available in considerable detail on Wikipedia.

She may be shunted aside by the MSM, but she's leaving way more than a trace for sure -- a redemptive force for a troubled and divided nation.

Eureka Springs , 20 February 2020 at 05:06 PM
With exception of Sanders I can't imagine any candidate on the stage last night offering Gabbards a position in their administration.

If Bernie Sanders were President of say any South American country every other Democrat on stage last night would be delighted as president themselves to covertly and overtly destroy him and his nation. Think Honduras, Paraguay, Venezuela and Bolivia for the most recent examples.

This country is getting a very clear lesson in the fact not only is not a democracy, it's anti-democratic to its core. I hope at long last it finally sinks in among the half of eligible voters who still legitimize it with their vote.

divadab , 20 February 2020 at 05:54 PM
The US of A should do as EVERY other advanced economy did - and implement single payer healthcare and eject the profiteers from the medical system, which is a public good. Germany has had universal medical care since Otto von Bismarck implemented in the 1870's to unify the country - most other countries implemented it in the 20th century (UK just after WW2; Canada in 1963' and so on). This will liberate US Americans from the advanced world's most expensive and inefficient health insurance system, with administrative costs of over 20% compared to Canada's 2-3% depending on province. And Bernie Sanders is the only Dem candidate who unequivocally stands for Medicare for all - the rest are to some degree or other captured by health industry cartel payoffs, much as the Dem party is.

Bernie or bust! He's not a commie; he's a democratic socialist, in the model of FDR's New Deal. Yes he's bad on foreign policy - do you-all really approve of what Trump has been doing on behalf of "client states" who really run the foreign policy show in their domains? I'm not sure if this will ever change - no president wants to end up like JFK. But what is important is to improve the lot of all of us poor citizens who get to pay for all these shitshow foreign SNAFU's - will they ever end? Not while the likes of Pompeus Maximus is in charge....

[Feb 21, 2020] I don't think we should be delving on Sanders' foreign policy too much. Each President reliably betray his election platform

In France they used to say "Socialists who became ministers are not socialist ministers" ;-)
Notable quotes:
"... Sanders' 2016 campaigning was also very curious for his amazing deference to Hillary ..."
Feb 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
vk , Feb 20 2020 18:22 utc | 19
I don't think we should be delving on Sanders' foreign policy too much.

Obama was elected on a "hope and change" platform - mentioning removing troops from Iraq, Afghanistan, closing Guantanamo etc. and then, boom, Libya, drones, private contractors and Syria happened.

Also, we have the Deep State, which is the true dictator of American foreign policy. This is the team of "experts" and "advisers" who will "educate" whoever is newly elected to the WH. So it doesn't really matter what the candidates state about foreign policy at this point.

It really doesn't matter what Sanders says on the FP front.


Piotr Berman , Feb 20 2020 20:43 utc | 44

And Sanders' 2016 campaigning was also very curious for his amazing deference to Hillary .

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 20 2020 20:05 utc | 36

I will not defend Sanders from basing his foreign policy on the progressive outliers of reactionary CAP. There is a distinct danger that he would be malleable on foreign policy, but also a hope... The hope is that he collected a lot of supporters who are less deferential to DC consensus than himself.

The deference to Hillary was a good tactical choice in my humble opinion. He leads the insurgents who do not favor the current DNC and party apparatus. To win a national elections he does need cooperation across party spectrum. PUMA is a real danger against that (search PUMA 2008 election). So he can (a) challenge and shame possible repeaters of PUMA (b) give good example (c) rely on his feared supporters who are guaranteed to be suspicious and grumpy.

Bloomberg as the champion of moderate democrats reminds me the candidate for Polish presidency that Nationalists put forth in 1922. He was the top aristocrat, with vast holdings. Nationalists had hopes of attracting the larger and very moderate peasant party, but moderate as they were, they just could not vote for Aristocrat Number One. A lot of Democrats prefer Sanders over Bloomberg, even the moderate ones. If Sanders becomes top in delegate count and Bloomberg second, brokering the convention against Sanders will be hard.

Bubbles , Feb 20 2020 21:30 utc | 51
I started out to say that Sanders can't compete in the American Political sham reality if he goes ball to the wall against Israel's aggression's and totally illegal behaviour which is supported by Democrats and Republican's alike because of the monetary power the Zionist fifth column in America wields with their "Benjamins"

Hat tip to that tiny girl born in Somalia for calling a spade a spade. Courage should be rewarded, not attacked by those who disrespect truth and decency.

Patroklos , Feb 20 2020 22:30 utc | 59
On Sanders' foreign policy: we shouldn't forget that democracies are belligerent, that the link between war and high citizen participation in decision-making was the hallmark of classical antiquity. More recently, the icing on FDR's New Deal was ww2. It doesn't surprise me that a shift to social democracy does not imply a decrease in external belligerence. In fact moderate right-wing libertarians tend on the whole to be the least fond of war, unless it's about protecting their interests. But when the interests at stake are understood by the deliberative citizen body (e.g. SPQR or ὁ δῆμος) to be those of the collective citizen body, then war is endemic. I am reminded too that one of the most left-wing institutions (in spirit at least) in the US is the Marine Corps: the polis is a warrior-guild (Max Weber)
waste , Feb 21 2020 0:06 utc | 75
Thanks b for watching the debate for us :)

Even if sanders gets the nomination (a very very big if), don 't expect him to go all anti-systemic at all, more the opposite I would say. So Tulsi for VC is like a red herring, he would probably choose a "moderate" for VC.

The following article is a very interesting one, showing the type of socialist sanders is. His ideas about socialism are closer to the european socialdemocratic system after the 90s , and we all know what a trainwreck that is.

https://libcom.org/library/bernie-sanders-paradox-when-socialism-grows-old

Jackrabbit , Feb 21 2020 0:27 utc | 78
karlof1 @62, b4real @73

Whether he realizes it or not, karlof1 is exposing a version of the establishment-friendly "best of all worlds" (BOAW) political theory

BOAW was popular when Obama the deceiver was President. It fits well with his neoliberal hucksterism aka "social choice theory".

BOAW says that if something is wrong or can be improved, it will get attention and be addressed because people will get behind the change necessary to make it happen.

But the Empire and great wealth disparity has distorted democratic processes into something garish - like fun house mirrors. BOAW is now recognized as simply hopium propaganda and is hardly ever even mentioned anymore.

!!

[Feb 19, 2020] The Democratic Zoo vs the Orange Showman

Notable quotes:
"... 7. Tulsi Gabbard. God bless her. I would vote for her but the Gays and the Zionists are both against her. This is not going to happen. ..."
Feb 16, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

1. Bernie Sanders is a Marxist who is not afraid to stand up in public for himself. His honeymoon in the USSR is not likely to be forgotten. He is a communist fellow traveler who has become a member of the rentier class. He wants to abolish private health insurance. Really! De Blasio and AOC, two more open Marxists are on his team? Really?

2. IMO Elizabeth Warren is an obvious serial liar who reminds me of a second grade teacher with enthusiasms for projects that the little children had better get on board for, or else! Another millionaire in socialist clothing.

3. And, there is Mayor Pete, the darling of the Wall Street population and all the world's bankers. Somehow the creatures of the coastal cities don't understand that the American electorate is not ready to elect a cute, openly homosexual man who will live in the White House with his husband and child. It is not going to happen this time around.

4. Amy Klobuchar - An obscure Mid-Western senator who shows signs of an idealism that might be a problem for the professional pols. She might do something not in their script.

5. Mikey Bloomberg - The People's Party is going to put forward a guy worth over $60 billion? Really? If that were not bad enough, the man has a long history of total ineptitude in human relations involving blacks and women? Really? Watch him try to mix with ordinary people in crowds. Sad.

6. Hillary? Old Deplorable herself? Trump beat her once already in the Electoral College, where the fraud in California's popular vote did not matter. A lot of people loath her.

7. Tulsi Gabbard. God bless her. I would vote for her but the Gays and the Zionists are both against her. This is not going to happen.

8. Tom Steyr - Ho hum. A taller version of Bloomberg, he made his money by investing in coal mines and now is a fanatic "climate change" guy.

9. Joe Biden. He was asked by Jorge Ramos "why did you and Obama lock up so many illegal kids on the border?" He replied "we were taking care of them." IMO he is and has always been a crooked, not too smart politician from a very small state. Hell! In Delaware you can know most of the electorate personally. He is done.

All of these folks are addicted to private jets that they hire if they do not actually own one or two. Naughty! Naughty!

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And! On the other side we have the orange man. He will be quite happy to run against these guys. BTW I doubt that he has a billion in cash. That is probably why he doesn't want to release his tax returns. He came into office with little understanding of the differences between government and business and still knows little about that. He wants to believe that everyone in the Executive Branch is his personal employee. He is wrong about that.

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BTW. McCabe IS NOT "off the hook." The particular charge DoJ is not going to try him for is the least of his problems.

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Ah! The Bonfire of the Vanities. pl


Flavius , 16 February 2020 at 10:10 AM

"BTW. McCabe IS NOT "off the hook." The particular charge DoJ is not going to try him for is the least of his problems."

So true...and he knows it. You'll notice they haven't yet indicted the FBI lawyer who made a material misrepresentation on the Page FISC affidavit either. Comey, McCabe, Clapper, Brennan are being investigated for their roles in having blown up the Presidential electoral process in the United States. The DoJ is not about to make itself up front look petty, vindictive, and stupid by indicting McCabe for spitting on the sidewalk. The Democrats would love to take advantage of that opportunity.

For those paying attention, this provides a welcome contrast to the way the political jihadists under Mueller conducted themselves - Flynn, Manafort, Stone, Papanobody. Ditto the Schiff impeachment debacle. Pure chickenshit made into red meat by an obliging institutional media.

It's heartening to see some evidence of judgement has returned to the Department.

divadab , 16 February 2020 at 11:35 AM
Sir - if Bernie Sanders is a Marxist so was FDR. They are both New Deal Democrats, representing the working people against the rapacious oligarchs.

Further, Medicare for All is a bare minimum of what is required to uplift the citizens of this nation. It seems increasingly that we cannot stop the warmongers in their desire to dominate or destroy so the best policy is to improve the lot of the citizens. That's what Bernie is about.

Incidentally, a proposed Bloomberg/Clinton ticket epitomises the corruption and stupidity and incompetence of the Dem elite. Contemptible scum.

turcopolier , 16 February 2020 at 12:02 PM
divadab

Oh, BS! FDR was nothing like Bernie. What, he created Social Security and that made him a commie? Medicare for all would beggar us unless we ration care like they do in places like Canada.

Jack , 16 February 2020 at 12:12 PM
Sir,

The optics of the non-prosecution of McCabe is not looking good when the DOJ have prosecuted Stone and Flynn for the same thing. There's no doubt we have a 2-tier justice system with a very corrupt prosecutorial system and a judiciary in lock step with them. The FISA court exemplifies this.

As far as the Orangeman is concerned he seems not much different than all the others. At the end of the day he hired Rosenstein, Wray, Sessions, Barr, Bolton, Kelly and Mattis. While he's got the prerogative to declassify he shirked each time and passed the buck. His shtick of being the representative of the Deplorables is just that. He only cares about his own skin.

He's completely in thrall of the Saudi bonesaw and Bibi's maximalist visions.

The bottom line in my opinion is we have a broken political, media and governmental system as the people the voters encourage to run it are as corrupt as in any tinpot banana republic.

Personally I'd like to see Trump vs Bernie as it would implode the Democrats and show clearly how polarized the electorate really is and how venal the media have become. What will they do when they hate both candidates?

NancyK , 16 February 2020 at 12:43 PM
divadad,

rationed care is better than no care at all or care that bankrupts the family. I think most Canadian's prefer their system than ours. Having said that I don't agree with Medicare for all but I do think that individuals and families who cannot afford medical insurance should have affordable options available to them.

Sam Iam , 16 February 2020 at 12:58 PM
Sir,

To help clarify Sander's world view, I'll present to this this snippet from a recent interview where he brings up modern-day China:

"It wasn't so many decades ago that there was mass starvation in China. All right? There is not mass starvation today and people have got -- the government has got to take credit for the fact that there is now a middle class in China. No one denies that more people in China have a higher standard of living than use to be the case. All right? That's the reality.

On the other hand, China is a dictatorship. It does not tolerate democracy, i.e., what they're doing in Hong Kong. They do not tolerate independent trade unions and the Communist Party rules with a pretty iron fist. So, and by the way, in recent years, Xi has made the situation even worse. So, I mean, I'll give, you give people credit where it is due. But you have to maintain values of democracy and human rights and certainly that does not exist in China."

D , 16 February 2020 at 01:06 PM
One bonfire that refuses to die and flamed up again today - Crowdstrike and the media's total refusal to even mention its name, which was the really critical part of the Ukrainian phone call. Not their phony quid pro quo.

All Democrat candidates need to questioned about Crowdstrike, since it led to two failed major Democrat-led actions against President Trump - The Mueller investigation and the Democrat impeachment.

Following article underscores what Larry Johnson has been reporting for years:

https://thenationalsentinel.com/2020/02/15/crowdstrike-claim-that-russia-hacked-dnc-server-remains-at-center-of-2016-spygate-scandal-hoax/

b , 16 February 2020 at 01:10 PM
Sander is a no 'Marxist' at all. I agree with this quote from Krugman (a Clinton guy):
The thing is, Bernie Sanders isn't actually a socialist in any normal sense of the term. He doesn't want to nationalize our major industries and replace markets with central planning; he has expressed admiration, not for Venezuela, but for Denmark. He's basically what Europeans would call a social democrat -- and social democracies like Denmark are, in fact, quite nice places to live, with societies that are, if anything, freer than our own.

The social democrat have always hated and fought against the communists who are the real Marxists.

D , 16 February 2020 at 01:13 PM
FDR strongly warned not to unionize government employees.

Sanders demands all workers shall be unionized, which is the backbone of the Green New Deal - mandatory union membership, creating vast slush funds of union dues going directly to the Democrat party.

Fred , 16 February 2020 at 01:16 PM
Divadab,

Just what has Bernie accomplished in 30 years in federal office, besides becoming a multimillionaire?

D , 16 February 2020 at 01:16 PM
What happened to the speculation that breaking the whole " Trump coup" conspiracy would take down all government agencies, including the Gang of 8?

Consequently, more than the Democrats are interested in burying any loose threads that could cause something much larger to unravel? Wolfe gets off. McCabe gets off. Page/Strozk leer smugly over glasses of wine. Clapper-Bernnan-Comey free as birds.

John Merryman , 16 February 2020 at 01:20 PM
The reality should not be so much about the personalities, as the processes driving them. We have this ideal of a nation of laws, not men, but the principle doesn't run that deep.

The medical situation, for instance, is rife with fraud and abuse. While some waste is necessary, the whole trial and error thing, our country's medical system is more about siphoning value out of the community, than effectively understanding the necessities of healthcare and trying to adequately provide for them, to the extent possible.

Which is not so much a healthcare issue, as it is a financial system issue. Here is a very insightful essay from Naked Capitalism, that could be applied across many fields;

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/02/ship-the-airplane-the-cultural-organizational-and-technical-reasons-why-boeing-cannot-recover.html
Focus on the people distracts from the real issues.

eakens , 16 February 2020 at 01:45 PM
Good luck getting rid of the private insurance companies, lobbies, lawyers, accountants, and other third party beneficiaries of the private insurance market. United Healthcare has revenues of nearly a quarter trillion dollars just by itself. It's better to focus on what is possible instead of what is noble.

It is the same reason we won't be able to end all the wars, and simplify the tax code in a meaningful way. Intuit (the maker of TurboTax) is one of the largest supporters of complicating the forms and processes by which to file taxes.

The bottom line is that these are massive, structural changes that they would take constitutional amendments to fix since every 4-8 years some carpetbagger shows up seeking to undo what the other carpetbaggers did, and the only thing they do is create another cottage industry regulated by an equally large bureaucracy.

If you want to champion anything, start with campaign finance reform since everything else is just noise.

james , 16 February 2020 at 02:53 PM
basically you're saying 'the usa is screwed." that is what it sounds like to me..
Dwight , 16 February 2020 at 03:17 PM
Our current system already beggars most of us. Expensive yet insecure coverage that potentially bankrupts us all from surprise billing. Incredible time-suck to protect yourself from such predatory practices. (Though it appears Medicare recipients are protected from such price gouging.).

Employer-based coverage constrains job changes, and leaves people without coverage when they get laid off because of illness. I see Medicare for All as enhancing liberty. Tying health care to your employer is kind of feudal. Take away the tax breaks at least so the market is fair. I wouldn't mind paying premiums and copays, with monthly maximum, but wouldn't mind paying through taxes either.

Diana Croissant , 16 February 2020 at 03:30 PM
I am sorry, but my comment to this summary of the Democratic contenders is totally facetious. (Perhaps that is because if find all but Tulsi people who have been put forward by an obviously facetious group of people running the Democratic Party now.

Does anyone else suspect that Elizabeth Warren is making money on the side doing the voice for Pinocchio in the GEICO ads?

divadab , 16 February 2020 at 03:42 PM
Whoa! Quite a few responses - will try to answer in order:

@turcopolier - well I have direct experience of the Canadian system and based on many experiences, the Canadian universal single-payer system is not "rationed" in any way wrt urgent care. Yes if you have elective surgery like an arthroscopic knee repair of which I've had two and my choice was wait 3-5 months in Canada or pay $5,000 stateside and get it done next week. I paid. The choice of paying for service should never go away IMHO and this is a flaw among many which I note with Bernie's plan. Nonetheless he is articulating a bargaining position to attain something I think essential to re-organize the US health insurance system. WHy as a society are we paying twice as a percentage of gdp than Canada? It's profiteering. ANd Inefficiency. Probably in reverse order of importance, but they each feed the other.

@NancyK - some mix of a universal medicaire-style system with extra insurance available for those who want to pay for it (private room, immediate service, that kind of upgrade) might work, don't you think?

@fred - well, since you ask, and tho I'm no expert in the history of Bernie I do know this - he was mayor of Burlington VT for quite a while and you should take a walk around and see how some of his intitiatives have made Burlington more livable. ALso he garnered between 20 and 40 % of the Republican vote in his long run as Congressman from VT. As Representative and Senator he is well known for his successful amendements to the benefit of ALL
rather than for the benefit of the few, or, himself. He is only recently a millionaire, I understand, as he wrote a very successful book which made him a couple of million. Other than that, he owns real estate - who of his vintage who bought real estate has not made money?

Anyhoo, Bernie or bust!

ISL , 16 February 2020 at 03:45 PM
Dear Colonel,

I find I agree completely with all your points, except (respectfully) the intensity of your Bernie blast. If medicare for all is such a bad idea, then I await Trump to propose revoking ALL the communistic gov't medical care programs (including the free one congress gets).

Spark!!! spark!!! spark!!! Third rail.

Also, I note that Tulsi's has many more enemies. I continue supporting her (she is doing better than Steyer and Yang) in the hope that Bernie has had her as VP in mind all along or else that she will spend the next four years building a support base for 2024.

Barring the economy cracking or a new ME mess (perhaps by an Iranian proxy in revenge), I agree that the Dems will get trounced outside their coastal enclaves, particularly if the Dems continue to cheat the process. Nothings says stay home like having your vote stolen.

In the economic regards, the Corona Virus is a potentially massive black swan event - the Fed already has been printing 100 billion per month to stave off economic collapse for five months now (socialism for the banks!!!! Get a pitchfork) and no intention to slowdown for the foreseeable future, so it's not clear they have the bullets to deal with a, at a minimum, Corona shutdown of US supply chains. With a up to 24 day before symptoms appear, and false negatives of up to 80% in the very few who are tested, efforts to date by the US are just security theater.

Dwight , 16 February 2020 at 03:49 PM
Even if Bernie were a communist rather than a moderate social democrat, we have checks and balances, and the Fifth Amendment protecting property rights.
turcopolier , 16 February 2020 at 05:10 PM
Dwight

Just kidding yourself about how much damage he could do while president. Do you feel that way about Trump?

turcopolier , 16 February 2020 at 05:12 PM
ISL
1. His plan would forbid insurance outside it. 2. The cost is massively prohibitive.
turcopolier , 16 February 2020 at 05:16 PM
James

No. Trump is doing a good job except in the ME.

turcopolier , 16 February 2020 at 06:12 PM
divadab

"wrt urgent care." What would you do if there were no available sources of treatment in the US?

turcopolier , 16 February 2020 at 06:16 PM
b (old adversary) You may not like to admits that I know a lot about various forms of leftism but I (like many other former USI officers know a lot about you) I personally recruited quite a few "Social Democrats" who were really agents of the USSR until they switched sides. They were tested a lot. I admit that Bernie evidently never voted for the Communist Party candidate for president as John Brennan did, but his honeymoon on an Intourist visa in the USSR speaks volumes. As I recall you were quite pro-Warsaw Pact and anti-NATO during the Cold War.
D , 16 February 2020 at 07:00 PM
Denmark retains its Lutheran sensibilities, if not their daily practice. It is very strict about immigration - very few are allowed in, closed borders, must speak Danish, turn over assets to the government, and no complaints about pork being on the menus.

Hygge celebrates thrift, simplicity and austerity. If you want Danish social democracy, you have to participate in the whole package. (Being of Danish heritage myself, I see nothin wrong with this but don't see many others living up to their unique lifestyle standards -

(NB: re-read Garrison Kielor's Lake Woebegon for further insights into Scandinavian heritage in the US - particuarly his footnoted treatise on 100 drawbacks being raised Scandinavian - US Scandinavians will laugh in self-recognition and also sadly nod in full agreement)

Danes laugh at our US welfare state and recognize it has nothing to do with their version of social welfare. Danish "socialism" provides workers with buy-in medical plans for more efficient delivery systems. It is by no means free government run health care or social welfare for all.

Norwegians are closer to this idealized model of "free stuff", but with even stricter about immigration controls and their system floats on massive amounts of fossil fuel extraction cash. Sweden, Finland, Iceland -- all have uniqiness in their social welfare systems that cannot translate to the US polyglot, poly-cultural model.

Danes also have suffered from high rates of depression and suicide. So Bernie, be sure to sign up for the whole package, and stop glossing over the missing details of your proposal for "Danish socialism".

Their system does work for the Danes and has a lot to like about it - but you have to plug in all the variables, so start by undoing the US welfare state plantation first and expect everyone to be a maker; not a taker.

Then give everyone a bike to replace their cars, and only then can you start handing out free health care - Danish style because their far more active lifestyle will define new models for health care needs.

[Feb 16, 2020] The highwater mark in SEAsia was the helicopters evacuating the last invaders from Saigon. The highwater mark in the ME is going to be similar scenes in Iraq.

Feb 16, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Dungroanin ,

It seems that history is about to repeat. The highwater mark in SEAsia was the helicopters evacuating the last invaders from Saigon. The highwater mark in the ME is going to be similar scenes in Iraq.

A final warning has been issued to US troops there – 40 days after Soleimanis assassination – the Resistance is ready to move, an irresistible force about to meet a not so immovable object.

Along with Idlib and Allepo its been amazing start to 2020. And its not even spring!

[Feb 16, 2020] The Koch-Soros Quincy Project: A Train Wreck Of Neocon And 'Humanitarian' Interventionists by Daniel McAdams

Feb 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Daniel McAdams via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

Those hoping the non-interventionist cause would be given some real muscle if a couple of oligarchs who've made fortunes from global interventionism team up and pump millions into Washington think tanks will be sorely disappointed by the train wreck that is the Koch/Soros alliance.

The result thus far has not been a tectonic shift in favor of a new direction, with new faces and new ideas, but rather an opportunity for these same old Washington think tanks, now flush with even more money, to re-brand their pet interventionisms as "restraint."

The flagship of this new alliance, the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, was sold as an earth-shattering breakthrough - an "odd couple" of "left-wing" Soros and "right-wing" Koch boldly tossing differences aside to join together and "end the endless wars."

That organization is now up and running and it isn't pretty.

To begin with, the whole premise is deeply flawed. George Soros is no "left-winger" and Koch is no "right-winger." It's false marketing, like the claim that drinking Diet Coke will make you skinny. Both are globalist oligarchs who continue to invest hundreds of millions of dollars to create the kind of world where the elites govern with no accountability except to themselves, and " the interagency ," rather than an elected President of the US, makes US foreign policy.

As libertarian intellectual Tom Woods once famously quipped , "No matter whom you vote for, you always wind up getting John McCain." That is exactly the world Koch and Soros want. It's a world of Davos with fangs, not Mainstreet, USA.

A 'New Vision'?

Anyone doubting that Quincy is just a mass re-branding effort for the same failed foreign policies of the past two decades need look no further than that organization's first big public event , a February 26th conference with Foreign Policy Magazine, to explore "A New Vision for America in the World."

Like pouring old wine into new bottles, this "new vision" is being presented by the very same people and institutions who gave us the "old vision" - you know, the one they pretend to oppose.

How should anyone interested in restraining foreign policy - let alone actual non-interventionism - react to the kick-off presentation of the Quincy Institute's conference, "Perspective on U.S. Global Leadership in the 21st Century," going to disgraced US General David Petraeus?

Petraeus is, among many other things, an architect of the disastrous and failed "surge" policy in Iraq. He is still convinced (at least as of a few years ago) that " we won " in Iraq...but that we dare not end the occupation lest we lose what we "won." How's that for "restraint"?

While head of the CIA, he teamed up with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to develop and push the brilliant idea of directly and overtly training and equipping al-Qaeda and other jihadists to overthrow the secular government of Bashar Assad. How's that for "restraint"?

When a tape leaked of Fox News contributor Kathleen T. McFarland meeting with Petraeus at the behest of then-Fox Chairman Roger Ailes to convince him to run for US president, Petraeus told her that the CIA in his view is "a national asset...a treasure." He then went on to speak favorably of the CIA's role in Libya.

But the absurdity of leading the conference with such an unreconstructed warmongering interventionist is only the beginning of the trip down the Quincy conference rabbit hole.

Rogues' Gallery of Washington's Worst

Shortly following the disgraced general is a senior official from the German Marshal Fund , Julianne Smith, to give us "A New Vision for America's Role in the World." Her organization, readers will recall, is responsible for some of the most egregious warmongering propaganda.

The German Marshal Fund launched and funds the Alliance for Securing Democracy , an organization led by such notable proponents of "restraint" as neoconservative icon William Kristol, John McCain Institute head David Kramer, Michael " Trump is an agent of Putin " Morell, and, among others, the guy who made millions out of scaring the hell out of Americans, former Homeland-Security-chief-turned-airport-scanner-salesman Michael Chertoff.

The Alliance for Securing Democracy was responsible for the discredited "Hamilton 68 Dashboard," a magic tool they claimed would seek and destroy "Russian bots" in the social media. After the propaganda value of such a farce had been reaped, Alliance fellow Clint Watts admitted the whole thing was bogus .

Moving along, so as not to cherry pick the atrocities in this conference, moderating the section on the Middle East is one "scholar," Mehdi Hasan, who actually sent a letter to Facebook demanding that the social media company censor more political speech! He has attacked what he calls "free speech fundamentalists."

Joining the "Regional Spotlight: Asia-Pacific" is Patrick Cronin of the thoroughly - and proudly - neoconservative Hudson Institute. Cronin's entire professional career consists of position after position at the center of Washington's various "regime change" factories. From a directorial position at the mis-named US Institute for Peace to "third-ranking position" at the US Agency for International Development to "senior director of the Asia-Pacific Security Program at the [ neoconservative ] Center for a New American Security." This is a voice of "restraint"?

Later, the segment on "Ending Endless War" features at least two speakers who absolutely oppose the idea. Rosa Brooks, Senior Fellow at the "liberal interventionist" New America Foundation, wrote not long ago that, "There's No Such Thing as Peacetime." In the article she argued the benefits of "abandon[ing] the effort to draw increasingly arbitrary lines between peacetime and wartime and instead focus[ing] on developing institutions and norms capable of protecting rights and rule-of-law values at all times." In other words, war is endless so man up and get used to it.

This may be the key for how you end endless war. Just stop calling it "war."

Brooks' fellow panelist, Tom Wright, hails from the epicenter of liberal interventionism, the Brookings Institution, where he is director of the "Center on the United States and Europe." Brookings loves "humanitarian interventions" and has published pieces attempting to convince us that the attack on Libya was not a mistake .

Wright himself is featured in the current edition of the Council on Foreign Relations' publication Foreign Affairs arguing that old interventionist shibboleth that the disaster in Iraq was not caused by the US invasion, but rather by Obama's withdrawal.

This Quincy Institute champion of "restraint" concludes his latest piece arguing that:

Now is not the time for a revolution in U.S. strategy. The United States should continue to play a leading role as a security provider in global affairs.

How revolutionary!

The moderator of that final panel in the upcoming Quincy Institute first conference is Loren DeJonge Schulman, a deputy director at the above-named Center for a New American Security. Before joining that neoconservative think tank, Schulman served as Senior Advisor to National Security Advisor Susan Rice! Among her other international crimes, readers will recall that Rice was a chief architect of the US attack on Libya.

Schulman's entire career is, again, in the service of, alternatively, the war machine and the regime change machine.

The Quincy Institute's first big event, which it bills as a showcase for a new foreign policy of "restraint," is in fact just another gathering of Washington's usual warmongers, neocons, and " humanitarian " interventionists.

Quincy has been received with gushing praise from people who should know better . Any of those gushers who look at this first Quincy conference and continue to maintain that a revolution in foreign policy is afoot are either lying to us or lying to themselves.

But Wait...There's More!

Sadly, the fallout extends beyond just this particular new institute and this particular event.

Those who continue to push the claim that Koch and Soros are changing their spots and now supporting restraint and non-interventionism should be made to explain why the most egregiously warmongering and interventionist organizations are finding themselves on the receiving end of oligarch largese.

Just days ago a glowing article in Politico detailed the recipients of millions of Koch dollars to promote "restraint." Who is leading the Koch brigades in the battle for a non-interventionist, "restrained" foreign policy?

Politico reveals:

Libertarian business tycoon Charles Koch is handing out $10 million in new grants to promote voices of military restraint at American think tanks, part of a growing effort by Koch to change the U.S. foreign policy conversation.

The grants, details of which were shared exclusively with POLITICO, are being split among four institutions: the Atlantic Council ; the Center for the National Interest; the Chicago Council on Global Affairs; and the RAND Corporation.

The Atlantic Council has been pushing US foreign policy toward war with Russia for years, pumping endless false propaganda and neocon lies to fuel the idea that Russia is engaged in an "asymmetric battle" against the US, that the mess in Ukraine was the result of a Russian out-of-the-blue invasion rather than an Obama Administration coup d'etat , that Russia threw the elections to Putin's agent Trump, and that Moscow is seeking to to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

The Atlantic Council's " Disinfo Portal ," a self-described "one-stop interactive online portal and guide to the Kremlin's information war," is raw, overt war propaganda. It is precisely the kind of war propaganda that has fueled three years of mass hysteria called "Russiagate," which though proven definitively to be an utter fraud, continues to animate most of Washington's thinking on the Left and Right to this day.

The Atlantic Council, through something it calls a " Digital Forensic Research Lab ," works with giant social media outlets to identify and ban any independent or alternative news outlets who deviate from the view that the US is besieged by enemies, from Syria to Iran to Russia to China and beyond, and that therefore it must continue spending a trillion dollars per year to maintain its role as the unipolar hyperpower. Thus, the Atlantic Council - a US government funded entity - colludes with social media to silence any deviation from US government approved foreign policy positions.

And these are the kinds of organizations that Koch and Soros claim are going to save us from Washington's interventionist foreign policy?

Equally upsetting is the "collateral damage" that the Koch/Soros alliance and its love child Quincy hath wrought. To see once-vibrant and reliably non-interventionist upstarts like The American Conservative Magazine (TAC) lured away from the vision of its founders, Pat Buchanan and Taki Theodoracopulos, to slip into the warm Hegelian embrace of well-funded compromise is truly heartbreaking. It is to witness the soiling of that once-brave publication's vindication for being right about Iraq War 2.0 while virtually all of Washington was wrong.

Incidentally, and to add insult to injury, it is precisely these kinds of Washington institutions who most viciously attacked TAC in those days who now find themselves trusted partners and even "expert" sources !

TAC! Beware! It's not too late to wake up and smell the deception!

How to End Endless Wars (The Easy Way)

If a Soros-Koch alliance was actually interested in ending endless US wars and re-orienting our currently hyper-interventionist foreign policy toward "restraint," it would simply announce that not another penny in campaign contributions would go to any candidate for House, Senate, or President who did not vow publicly in writing to vote against or veto any legislation that did not reduce military spending, that imposed sanctions overseas, that threatened governments overseas, that appropriated funds in secret or overtly to destabilize or overthrow governments overseas, or that sent foreign "aid" to any government overseas.

It would cost pennies to make such an announcement and stick to it, and the result would be a massive shift in the American body politic toward what the current alliance advertises itself as promoting.

But Koch/Soros don't really want to end endless US interventions overseas. They want to fund the same old think tanks who are responsible for the disaster that is US foreign policy, re-brand interventionism as non-interventionism, and hope none of us rubes in flyover country notices.

To paraphrase what Pat Buchanan said about Democrats in his historic 1992 convention speech, the whitewashing of Washington's most egregiously interventionist institutions and experts as "restrained" non-interventionists is "the greatest single exhibition of cross-dressing in American political history."

[Feb 15, 2020] Shifting narrative: Trump administration now Justifies Killing Soleimani for Past Actions, not Imminent Threat by Dave DeCamp

Notable quotes:
"... Although the memo says one purpose of the action was to "deter Iran from conducting or supporting further attacks against United States forces," it does not cite any specific threats. Both President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the killing was done to prevent imminent attacks and led on like they had the intelligence to prove it. ..."
"... The New York Times recently reported that Iraqi military and intelligence officials believe the December 27 th rocket attack that killed a US contractor was likely carried out by ISIS, not the Shi'ite militia the US blamed and retaliated against. This attack led to a series of provocations that resulted in the assassination of Soleimani. Iraqi officials do not have proof that ISIS carried out the attack, but this possibility makes the US justification for killing Soleimani even more flimsy. ..."
"... Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) responded to the White House's memo in a statement on Friday, "The administration's explanation in this report makes no mention of any imminent threat and shows that the justification the president offered to the American people was false, plain and simple." ..."
Feb 14, 2020 | news.antiwar.com

The White House released a memo on Friday to Congress justifying the assassination of top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani. Despite earlier claims from the administration of Soleimani and his Quds Force planning imminent attacks on US personnel in the region, the memo uses past actions as the justification for the killing.

The memo says President Trump ordered the assassination on January 2nd "in response to an escalating series of attacks in preceding months by Iran and Iran-backed militias on United States forces and interests in the Middle East region."

Although the memo says one purpose of the action was to "deter Iran from conducting or supporting further attacks against United States forces," it does not cite any specific threats. Both President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the killing was done to prevent imminent attacks and led on like they had the intelligence to prove it.

The New York Times recently reported that Iraqi military and intelligence officials believe the December 27 th rocket attack that killed a US contractor was likely carried out by ISIS, not the Shi'ite militia the US blamed and retaliated against. This attack led to a series of provocations that resulted in the assassination of Soleimani. Iraqi officials do not have proof that ISIS carried out the attack, but this possibility makes the US justification for killing Soleimani even more flimsy.

Lawmakers from both parties criticized Trump for killing Iran's top general without congressional approval. The memo argues that Trump had authority to order the attack under Article II of the US Constitution, and under the 2002 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq (2002 AUMF).

Congress is taking measures to limit Trump's ability to wage war with Iran. The Senate passed the Iran War Powers Resolution on Thursday, and the House voted to repeal the 2002 AUMF in January.

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) responded to the White House's memo in a statement on Friday, "The administration's explanation in this report makes no mention of any imminent threat and shows that the justification the president offered to the American people was false, plain and simple."

[Feb 15, 2020] Tulsi's campaign is still alive

Feb 15, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Bernie didn't win in '16. Rigging certainly but he had no nationwide general electoral opportunity to enter the WH. Instead, the Berniecrat progressive fire has continued burning slowly and steadily. Progressivism, in its various flavors, is now THE ascendant movement of the Left. It grew slowly, steadily. This is the comparison which is relevant to Tulsi's candidacy. Barring a miracle, Tulsi will not be the Dem nominee in November facing off El Trumpo. But she has lit a fire under hundreds of thousands which will continue to spread due to the gentle breezes of her campaign speeches. Perhaps 2024 is her year. If not, 2028 could realistically be the date she becomes POTUS.

My previous essay, It's the economy, was negative. Negative if one believes there is even a remote chance Saint Bernie gets to run against Trump. Yes, he, like the rest of the D's is running against Trump but what are the plans? Open Borders? Medicare for Illegal aliens? Bernie's got other proposals, meritorious ones deserving of support. But too much baggage. He is collecting baggage as adroitly as Liz Warren. Look what that's done to her campaign.

Kind-hearted Bernie is taking up survivors from the Warren life rafts, many of whom are armed with rubber penetrating pins.

Tulsi does not genuflect.

The same type of integrity-diminishing stances Liawatha has adopted, are now afflicting Saint Bernie. Pandering on open borders. Retreating before Culinary Union attacks without personally facing it down NOW--NOW when it counts.

The last man standing will be a woman. The rest are craven characatures of sincere humans, so phony that even a blind monkey could detect.

Who did Warren Harding defeat for President? Don't look it up--people don't remember losers. In 20 years, H. Rodent Clinton will be merely a bad dream, to be recalled in memory only by those interested in calamity.

Bernie started a movement. But, like Moses, he will never enter the Promised Land. His name will be remembered by even his opponents as someone who began steering the ship of state into better waters. But his portrait will not hang in the WH.

Tulsi is the future


on the cusp on Sat, 02/15/2020 - 8:10pm

I am not completely sure Tulsi is anything in the future.

She is not running for re-election. At the time of the next presidential election, she will be a private citizen.
She will have less leverage for endorsement of her colleagues than she does now.
For all we know, in 2 or 3 years, she may be out of the political realm completely.
I concede she is the type of person, or the sort of person that would take us forward, but she has little in the way of base right now, and will have an unknown base in a few years.
Bernie, no matter how I despise his foreign policy, is the poll leader, is a half-assed socialist, might actually improve/save lives of the working class and poor, and he is the start of a left swing we need now. Tulsi or some young leftie can knock it out of the park if we can just show people that social programs work, and work extremely well.

edg on Sat, 02/15/2020 - 8:14pm
Speculation about Tulsi's future...

@on the cusp

"The 2022 Hawaii gubernatorial election will take place on November 8, 2022, to elect the Governor of Hawaii. Incumbent Democratic Governor David Ige is term-limited and cannot seek re-election to a third term."

snoopydawg on Sat, 02/15/2020 - 8:23pm
Interesting

@edg

But why would she give up her seat in congress for being governor? She sees things in Hawaii she wants to fix or being governor is a better shot at being president? I admit that I don't know much about her congressional record. I just don't understand why people feel so strongly against her. Once upon a time they wanted the wars to stop. Now they are hung ho for warring with Russia through Ukraine.

#3

"The 2022 Hawaii gubernatorial election will take place on November 8, 2022, to elect the Governor of Hawaii. Incumbent Democratic Governor David Ige is term-limited and cannot seek re-election to a third term."

RantingRooster on Sat, 02/15/2020 - 8:39pm
Dude

Are you having a senior moment?

Don't get me wrong, there is much I like about Tulsi, but establishment democrats hate her, more than they hate Bernie. She openly defied them and quit the DNC on Bernie's behalf, and help bring down Debbie what-her-name as chairperson for the DNC.

[Feb 15, 2020] Write-in as a way of making a statement against the USA oligarchy corruption

Writing in Tulsi would probably be more a politically correct statement. She is a talented politician, a rare American gem. She speaks truth unlike the coward and lifelong conman Bonespurs
Feb 15, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Patroklos , Feb 15 2020 21:58 utc | 57

Tulsi is the new JFK. But seems America is not ready for decent honest politian with ideals and aspirations. She think America is capable of greatness. I doubt it. But I will write her name in if thats what it takes. For what its worth.

jared , Feb 15 2020 19:18 utc | 19
Does that mean that the US is now officially a 'shithole country' too? Long gone are the days when a national leader was a former railway engine cleaner who lived in a little house in a country town, a man who would go on to enact a legislative program that embraced a whole community recovering from war .

The West is very very broken.

[Feb 15, 2020] Some people want Tulsi to drop out and endorse Bernie. They are wrong.

Notable quotes:
"... Bloomberg is not going to get people to vote in large enough numbers to be a contender, he had zero write-in votes in NH. So he is about running to gain support just enough to force a second vote in order to for superdelegates to over turn the will of the people for Bernie at the convention. ..."
Feb 15, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kali , Feb 15 2020 18:54 utc | 7

Bloomberg is not going to get people to vote in large enough numbers to be a contender, he had zero write-in votes in NH. So he is about running to gain support just enough to force a second vote in order to for superdelegates to over turn the will of the people for Bernie at the convention.

Some people want Tulsi to drop out and endorse Bernie, like Kyle Kulinski, but those people are not thinking right because they act as if Bernie is not a VERY OLD man who has had health issues recently. If Tulsi drops out and endorses Bernie and then Bernie a few months from now has health issues which force him out---THEN WHAT KYLE? You want Warren who is a proven con artist and neocon?

See Tulsi Gabbard is The Steely Dan of Politics or: Perfection Isn't For Everyone

[Feb 15, 2020] US assassinated Suleimani to quash Iran s talks with Gulf monarchies by Bill Van Auken

Feb 15, 2020 | www.wsws.org

The Trump administration ordered the January 3 assassination of Major General Qassem Suleimani, one of Iran's most senior officials, not because he posed some "imminent threat," but rather in a calculated bid to disrupt Tehran's attempts to reach an accommodation with Washington's allies in the region.

This is the inescapable conclusion flowing from a report published Thursday in the New York Times , citing unnamed senior officials from the US, Iran and other countries in the Middle East.

It recounts the arrival last September in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates, of a plane carrying senior Iranian officials for talks aimed at achieving a bilateral peace agreement between the two countries.

The trip came in the context of a steady sharpening of US-Iranian tensions as a result of Trump's abrogation of the Iranian nuclear agreement in 2018 along with the imposition of a punishing sanctions regime tantamount to a state of war. This was followed by a major escalation of the US military presence in the region a year later.

While the US dispatched an aircraft carrier strike group and a B-52-led bomber task force to the region in May of last year, the same month saw the use of limpet mines to damage four oil tankers near the Strait of Hormuz, the strategic "chokepoint" through which 20 percent of the world's oil is shipped.

In June of last year, the Iranians downed a US Navy spy drone over the same area, with the Trump White House first ordering and then calling off retaliatory air strikes against Iran. And in September, Saudi oil installations came under a devastating attack from drones and cruise missiles.

Washington blamed both the attacks on the oil tankers and the strike against the Saudi oil installations -- for which the Houthi rebels in Yemen claimed responsibility -- on Iran, charges that Tehran denied.

As early as last August, there were reports indicating concerns within Washington that the UAE was veering away from the anti-Iran front that the US has attempted to cobble together, based upon Israel and the Gulf oil sheikdoms. The Emirates' coast guard had signed a maritime security agreement with Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and the UAE had clashed openly with Saudi Arabia over the control of southern Yemen's port city of Aden. At the time, the Washington Post warned that the UAE "is breaking ranks with Washington, calling into question how reliable an ally it would be in the event of a war between the United States and Iran."

According to the Times report, the meeting with the Iranian delegation in Abu Dhabi, which had been kept secret from Washington, "set off alarms inside the White House ... A united front against Iran -- carefully built by the Trump administration over more than two years -- seemed to be crumbling."

Both the Emirati monarchy and its counterpart in Saudi Arabia had become increasingly distrustful of Washington's Iran policy and concerned that they would find themselves on the frontline of any confrontation without any guarantee of the US defending them.

Saudi Arabia also began a secret diplomatic approach to Tehran, using the Iraqi and Pakistani governments as intermediaries. Suleimani played the central role in organizing the talks with both Gulf kingdoms, the Times reports.

In October, according to the report, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo flew to Tel Aviv for a meeting with Yossi Cohen, the chief of Mossad, who warned him that "Iran was achieving its primary goal: to break up the anti-Iran alliance."

Last month's assassination of General Suleimani was initially defended by Trump and administration officials as a preemptive strike aimed at foiling supposedly "imminent" attacks on US personnel or interests in the Middle East. This pretext soon fell apart, however, and the US president and his aides fell back to justifying the extra-judicial murder of a senior state official as revenge for his support for Shia militias that resisted the US occupation of Iraq 15 years earlier and retaliation for a missile strike that killed an American military contractor last December.

That strike was launched against a military base housing American troops in the northern Iraqi province of Kirkuk. Iraqi security officials have since contradicted the US claim that an Iranian-backed Shia militia was responsible for the attack. They have pointed out that the missiles were launched from a predominantly Sunni area where the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is active, and that Iraqi intelligence had warned US forces in November and December that ISIS was preparing to target the base.

The US responded to the missile strike on the base in Iraq by targeting Iraqi Shia militia positions on the Syria-Iraq border, killing 25 members of the Kataib Hezbollah militia. The attack provoked an angry demonstration that laid siege to the US embassy in Baghdad on December 31.

Two days later, a US Reaper drone fired missiles into a convoy at Baghdad International Airport, killing Suleimani along with Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, a central leader of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Forces, the coalition of militias that constitutes an arm of Iraq's security forces, as well as eight others.

In the wake of the drone assassinations, US Secretary of State Pompeo sarcastically told the media: "Is there any history that would indicate that it was remotely possible that this kind gentleman, this diplomat of great order -- Qassem Suleimani -- had traveled to Baghdad for the idea of conducting a peace mission? We know that wasn't true."

As the Times report indicates, that was precisely what Suleimani was doing in Baghdad, the US knew it and that is why it assassinated him. Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi said at the time that General Suleimani had flown into the country, on a commercial flight and using his diplomatic passport, for the express purpose of delivering an Iranian response to a message from Saudi Arabia as part of talks aimed at de-escalating tensions.

The more that emerges about the assassination of Suleimani, the more the abject criminality of his murder becomes clear. It was carried out neither as a reckless act of revenge nor to ward off unspecified attacks. Rather, it was a calculated act of imperialist terror designed to disrupt talks aimed at defusing tensions in the Persian Gulf and to convince the wavering Gulf monarchies that Washington is prepared to go to war against Iran.

This is the policy not merely of the Trump administration. Among the most significant moments in Trump's State of the Union address earlier this month was the standing ovation by Democratic lawmakers as he gloated over the murder of Suleimani, a war crime.

The resort to such criminal actions is a measure of the extreme crisis of a capitalist system that threatens to drag humanity into a new world war.

[Feb 14, 2020] More Lies on Iran The White House Just Can t Help Itself as New Facts Emerge by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... It soon emerged that the Iranian was in fact in Baghdad to discuss with the Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi a plan that might lead to the de-escalation of the ongoing conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran, a meeting that the White House apparently knew about may even have approved. If that is so, events as they unfolded suggest that the US government might have encouraged Soleimani to make his trip so he could be set up and killed. Donald Trump later dismissed the lack of any corroboration of the tale of "imminent threat" being peddled by Pompeo, stating that it didn't really matter as Soleimani was a terrorist who deserved to die. ..."
"... It now appears that the original death of the American contractor that sparked the tit-for-tat conflict was not carried out by Kata'ib Hezbollah at all. An Iraqi Army investigative team has gathered convincing evidence that it was an attack staged by Islamic State. In fact, the Iraqi government has demonstrated that Kata'ib Hezbollah has had no presence in Kirkuk province, where the attack took place, since 2014. It is a heavily Sunni area where Shi'a are not welcome and is instead relatively hospitable to all-Sunni IS. It was, in fact, one of the original breeding grounds for what was to become ISIS. ..."
Feb 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

Admittedly the news cycle in the United States seldom runs longer than twenty-four hours, but that should not serve as an excuse when a major story that contradicts what the Trump Administration has been claiming appears and suddenly dies. The public that actually follows the news might recall a little more than one month ago the United States assassinated a senior Iranian official named Qassem Soleimani. Openly killing someone in the government of a country with which one is not at war is, to say the least, unusual, particularly when the crime is carried out in yet another country with which both the perpetrator and the victim have friendly relations. The justification provided by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, speaking for the administration, was that Soleimani was in Iraq planning an "imminent" mass killing of Americans, for which no additional evidence was provided at that time or since.

It soon emerged that the Iranian was in fact in Baghdad to discuss with the Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi a plan that might lead to the de-escalation of the ongoing conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran, a meeting that the White House apparently knew about may even have approved. If that is so, events as they unfolded suggest that the US government might have encouraged Soleimani to make his trip so he could be set up and killed. Donald Trump later dismissed the lack of any corroboration of the tale of "imminent threat" being peddled by Pompeo, stating that it didn't really matter as Soleimani was a terrorist who deserved to die.

The incident that started the killing cycle that eventually included Soleimani consisted of a December 27th attack on a US base in Iraq in which four American soldiers and two Iraqis were wounded while one US contractor, an Iraqi-born translator, was killed. The United States immediately blamed Iran, claiming that it had been carried out by an Iranian supported Shi'ite militia called Kata'ib Hezbollah. It provided no evidence for that claim and retaliated by striking a Kata'ib base, killing 25 Iraqis who were in the field fighting the remnants of Islamic State (IS). The militiamen had been incorporated into the Iraqi Army and this disproportionate response led to riots outside the US Embassy in Baghdad, which were also blamed on Iran by the US There then followed the assassinations of Soleimani and nine senior Iraqi militia officers. Iran retaliated when it fired missiles at American forces , injuring more than one hundred soldiers, and then mistakenly shot down a passenger jet , killing an additional 176 people. As a consequence due to the killing by the US of 34 Iraqis in the two incidents, the Iraqi Parliament also voted to expel all American troops.

It now appears that the original death of the American contractor that sparked the tit-for-tat conflict was not carried out by Kata'ib Hezbollah at all. An Iraqi Army investigative team has gathered convincing evidence that it was an attack staged by Islamic State. In fact, the Iraqi government has demonstrated that Kata'ib Hezbollah has had no presence in Kirkuk province, where the attack took place, since 2014. It is a heavily Sunni area where Shi'a are not welcome and is instead relatively hospitable to all-Sunni IS. It was, in fact, one of the original breeding grounds for what was to become ISIS.

This new development was reported in the New York Times in an article that was headlined "Was US Wrong About Attack That Nearly Started a War With Iran? Iraqi military and intelligence officials have raised doubts about who fired the rockets that started a dangerous spiral of events." In spite of the sensational nature of the report it generally was ignored in television news and in other mainstream media outlets, letting the Trump administration get away with yet another big lie, one that could easily have led to a war with Iran.

Iraqi investigators found and identified the abandoned white Kia pickup with an improvised Katyusha rocket launcher in the vehicle's bed that was used to stage the attack. It was discovered down a desert road within range of the K-1 joint Iraqi-American base that was hit by at least ten missiles in December, most of which struck the American area.

There is no direct evidence tying the attack to any particular party and the improvised KIA truck is used by all sides in the regional fighting, but the Iraqi officials point to the undisputed fact that it was the Islamic State that had carried out three separate attacks near the base over the 10 days preceding December 27th. And there are reports that IS has been increasingly active in Kirkuk Province during the past year, carrying out near daily attacks with improvised roadside bombs and ambushes using small arms. There had, in fact, been reports from Iraqi intelligence that were shared with the American command warning that there might be an IS attack on K-1 itself, which is an Iraqi air base in that is shared with US forces.

The intelligence on the attack has been shared with American investigators, who have also examined the pick-up truck. The Times reports that the US command in Iraq continue to insist that the attack was carried out by Kata'ib based on information, including claimed communications intercepts, that it refuses to make public. The US forces may not have shared the intelligence they have with the Iraqis due to concerns that it would be leaked to Iran, but senior Iraqi military officers are nevertheless perplexed by the reticence to confide in an ally.

If the Iraqi investigation of the facts around the December attack on K-1 is reliable, the Donald Trump administration's reckless actions in Iraq in late December and early January cannot be justified. Worse still, it would appear that the White House was looking for an excuse to attack and kill a senior Iranian official to send some kind of message, a provocation that could easily have resulted in a war that would benefit no one. To be sure, the Trump administration has lied about developments in the Middle East so many times that it can no longer be trusted. Unfortunately, demanding any accountability from the Trump team would require a Congress that is willing to shoulder its responsibility for truth in government backed up by a media that is willing to take on an administration that regularly punishes anyone or any entity that dares to challenge it

That is the unfortunate reality in America today.



AnonStarter , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 12:25 am GMT

Well, the 9/11 Commission lied about Israeli involvement, Israeli neocons lied America into Iraq, and Netanyahu lied about Iranian nukes, so this latest news is just par for the course.
KA , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 12:59 am GMT
@04398436986 lets stay focused.

Pompeo had evidence of immediate catastrophic attack. That turned out to be a lie and plain BS.
Why should we believe Pompeo or White House or intelligence about the situation developing around 27-29 Dec ? Is it because it's USA who is saying so?

anonymous [307] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:12 am GMT
[it would appear that the White House was looking for an excuse to attack and kill a senior Iranian official to send some kind of message, a provocation that could easily have resulted in a war that would benefit no one.]

The Jewish mafia stooge and fifth column, Trump, is a war criminal and an ASSASSIN.

... ... ...

melpol , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:13 am GMT
War with Iran is off the table. Carpet bombing Iran would lead to the destruction of Israel and its nuclear facility...
Sean , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 2:23 am GMT

Worse still, it would appear that the White House was looking for an excuse to attack and kill a senior Iranian official to send some kind of message, a provocation that could easily have resulted in a war that would benefit no one.

Soleimani was a soldier involved in covert operations, Iran's most celebrated hero, and had been featured in the Iraq media as the target of multiple Western assassination attempts. He did not have diplomatic status.

As it happens Iran did not declare war on America and America did not declare war on Iran. If Americans soldiers killed in Iraq should not have been there in the first place, then the same goes for an Iranian soldier killed there too.

KA , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 2:30 am GMT
@04398436986 There is western assertion and western assertion only that Iran influences Iraqi administration and intelligence . It can be a projection from a failing America . It can be also a valid possibility .

But lying is America's alter ego . It comes easily and as default explanation even when admitting truth would do a better job .

Now let's focus on ISIS 's claims . Why is Ametica not taking it ( claim of ISIS) as truth and fact when USA has for last 19 years has jailed , bombed, attacked mentally retarded , caves and countries because somebody has pledged allegiance to Al Quida or to ISIS!!!

It seems neither truth nor lies , but what suits a particular psychopath at a particular time – that becomes USA's report ( kind of unassigned sex – neither truth nor lies – take your pick and find the toilet to flush it down memory hole) – so Pompeo lies to nation hoping no one in administration will ask . When administrative staff gets interested to know the truth , Pompeo tells them to suck it up , move on and get ready to explain the next batch of reality manufactured by a regime and well trained by philosopher Karl Rove

AnonStarter , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 4:06 am GMT
@04398436986 conspiracy mongers

To what "conspiracy" are you referring? It's a well established fact that your ilk was, at the very least, aware that the 9/11 attacks would occur and celebrated them in broad daylight. No conspiracy theory needed. Mossad ordnance experts were living practically next door to the hijackers. Well established fact.

It's also undeniable that the 9/11 Commission airbrushed Israeli involvement from their report. No conspiracy theory there, either.

Same goes for Israeli neocons and their media mandarins using "faulty intel" to get their war in Iraq. "Clean Break"? "Rebuilding America's Defenses"? Openly written and published. Judith Miller's lies? Also no conspiracy.

And Israel's own intelligence directors were undermining Netanyahu's lies on Iran. Not a conspiracy in sight.

contemplating the outcome of normal everyday competition, influenced by good & bad luck, is just too much truth for some psychological makeups

That's one of the lamest attempts at deflection I've seen thus far, and I've seen quite a few here.

Those who deny the official version of 9/11 are in the majority now:

https://www.livescience.com/56479-americans-believe-conspiracy-theories.html

We've reached critical mass. Clearly, that's just too much truth for your psychological makeup. Were we really that worthy of ignoring, your people wouldn't be working 24/7/365 to peddle your malarkey in fora of this variety.

JUSA , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 5:23 am GMT
I have thought that Trump's true impeachable crime was the illegal assassination of a foreign general who was not in combat. Pence should also be impeached for the botched coup in Venezuela. That was true embarrassment bringing that "El Presidente" that no one recognizes to the SOTU.

USA is basically JU-S-A now, Jews own and run this country from top to bottom, side to side, and because of it, pretty much run the world. China-Russia-Iran form their new "Axis of Evil" to be brought in line. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Covid-19 is a bioweapon, except not one created by China. Israel has been working on an ethnic based bioweapon for years. US sent 172 military "athletes" to the Military World Games in Wuhan in October, 2019, two weeks before the first case of coronavirus appeared. Almost too coincidental.

animalogic , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 6:20 am GMT
@Sean He wasn't there as a soldier -- he was there in a diplomatic role. (regardless of his official "status"). It also appears he was lured there with intent to assaninate.
Your last para is not only terrible logic but ignores the point of the article. Iran likely was not responsible for the US deaths. Even had it been responsible it would still not legitimate such a baldly criminal action.
Sean , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 6:29 am GMT
@JUSA

[I]illegal assassination of a foreign general who was not in combat

Lawful combat according to the Geneva Convention in which war is openly declared and fought between two countries each of which have regular uniformed forces that do all the actual fighting is an extremely rare thing. It is all proxy forces, deniability and asymmetric warfare in which one side (the stronger) is attacked by phantom combatants.

The Israeli PM publically alluded to the fact that Soleimani had almost been killed in the Mossad operation to kill Imad Mughniyeh a decade ago. The Iranian public knew that Soleimani had narrowly escaped death from Israeli drones, because Soleimani appeared on Iranian TV in October and told the story. A plot kill him by at a memorial service in Iran was supposedly foiled. He came from Lebanon by way of Syria into Iraq as if none of this had happened. Trump had sacked Bolton and failed to react to the drone attack on Saudi oil.

Iran seems to have thought that refusal to actually fight in the type of war that the international conventions were designed to regulate is a licence to exert pressure by launch attacks without being targeted oneself. Now do they understand.

Ace , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 8:41 am GMT
@Sean American troops invaded Iraq under false pretenses, killed thousands, and caused great destruction. Chaos and vengeful Sunnis spilled over into Syria where the US proceeded to grovel before the terrorists we fret about. Soleimani was effective in organizing resistance in Iraq and Syria and was in both countries with the blessing of their governments.

How you get Soleimani shouldn't be there out of that I have no idea.

Zen , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 12:04 pm GMT
@04398436986 Yet you ignore that the Neocons have lied about virtually every cause if war ever. Lied about Iraq, North Korea and Iran nuclear info actions, about chem weapons in Syria, lied about Kosovo, lied about Libya, lied about Benghazi, lied about Venezuela. So Whom I gonna believe, no government, but a Neocon led one least of all
Vojkan , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:05 pm GMT
@Sean American soldiers went there uninvited. Soleimani went there because he was invited. That makes a hell of a difference.
Robjil , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:05 pm GMT
It is common knowledge that ISIS is a US/Israeli creation. ISIS is the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. Thus, the US/Israel staged the attack on the US base on 12.27.2019.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627

ISIS is a US-Israeli Creation: Indication #2: ISIS Never Attacks Israel

It is more than highly strange and suspicious that ISIS never attacks Israel – it is another indication that ISIS is controlled by Israel. If ISIS were a genuine and independent uprising that was not covertly orchestrated by the US and Israel, why would they not try to attack the Zionist regime, which has attacked almost of all of its Muslim neighbors ever since its inception in 1948? Israel has attacked Egypt, Syria and Lebanon, and of course has decimated Palestine. It has systemically tried to divide and conquer its Arab neighbors. It continually complains of Islamic terrorism. Yet, when ISIS comes on the scene as the bloody and barbaric king of Islamic terrorism, it finds no fault with Israel and sees no reason to target a regime which has perpetrated massive injustice against Muslims? This stretches credibility to a snapping point.

ISIS and Israel don't attack each other – they help each other. Israel was treating ISIS soldiers and other anti-Assad rebels in its hospitals! Mortal enemies or best of friends?

Coward Corps , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:07 pm GMT
The MQ-9 pilot and sensor operator will be looking over their shoulders for a long time. They're as famous as Soleimani. Their command chain is well known too, hide though they might far away.

And who briefed the president that terror Tuesday? The murder program isn't Air Force.

Eek , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT
Hey now, you learn to put the best gloss on things when your troops are pathetic little timmies scared of rocks and 12-year olds. Bunch of pussies.

https://southfront.org/dumbfucks-russian-troops-react-to-us-forces-using-firearms-against-syrian-villagers/

The IRGC is going to make mincemeat of these chumps.

Moi , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:36 pm GMT
@anonymous The kind of crap Trump pulled in the assassination of Soleimani is what he should be impeached about–not the piss-ant stuff about Hunter Biden's job in the Ukaranian gas company and his pappy's role in it.
Sick of Orcs , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:49 pm GMT
We're really benefitting, carrying water for (((our greatest ally.)))
Really No Shit , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 1:59 pm GMT
Iraq an ally of the United States! Is it some kind of a joke? How can a master and slave be equal? We, the big dog want their oil and the tail that wags us, Israel, want all Muslims pacified and the Congress, which is us wether we like or not, compliant out of financial fears. Unless we curb our own greedy appetite for fossil fuels and at the same time tell an ally, which Israel is by being equal in a sense that it can get away with murder and not a pip is raised, to limit its ambition, nothing is going to be done to improve the situation. Until then it's an exercise in futility, at best!
anonymous [307] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 2:46 pm GMT
@Ozymandias You are so ignorant.

Iran has NO choice but to defend itself from the savages. It has not been Iran that invaded US, but US with a plan that design years before 9/11 invaded many countries. Remember: seven countries in five years. Soleimani was a wise man working towards peace by creating options for Iran to defend itself. Iran is not the aggressor, but US -Israel-UK are the aggressor for centuries now. Is this so difficult to understand. 9/11 was staged by US/Israel killing 3000 Christians to implement their criminal plan.

Soleimani, was on a peace mission, where was assassinated by Trump, an Israeli firster and a fifth column and the baby killer Netanyahu. Is this difficult to understand by the Trump worshiper, a traitor.

Now, Khamenie is saying the same thing: "Iran should be strong in military warfare and sciences to prevent war and maintain PEACE.

Only ignorant, arrogant, and racists don't understand this fact and refuse to understand how the victims have been pushed to defend themselves.

The Assassin at the black house should receive the same fate in order to bring the peace.

anonymous [307] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 2:48 pm GMT
@Moi I totally agree with you. Both parties are a fifth column and criminals.
Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist , says: Website Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT
When does Amerikastan *not* lie about anything? If an Amerikastani tells you the sun rises in the east, you're probably on Venus, where it rises in the west.
DaveE , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 3:05 pm GMT
I think this article is getting close to the truth, that this whole operation was and is an ISIS (meaning Israeli Secret Intelligence Service) affair designed to pit America against the zionists' most formidable enemy thus far, Iran.

I'm of the opinion that Trump did not order the hit on Soleimani, but was forced to take credit for it, if he didn't want to forfeit any chance of being reelected this year. The same ISIS (Israeli) forces that did the hit also orchestrated the "retaliation" that Mr. Giraldi so heroically documents in this piece.

As usual, this is looking more and more like a zionist /jewish false flag attack on the Muslim world, with the real dirty-work to be done by the American military.

Ahoy , says: Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 3:17 pm GMT
The dealer in the M.E. poker game is Putin. This is what drives the very elite crazy. How could this have happened? We had conquered Russia in 1917.

Well, you must have made a small mistake along the way. Trumpstein can't save you. Soon the dollar won't have any value. There is nothing behind it.

The new policeman in the M.E. will be Iran. The legacy of Lawrence of Arabia has died long time ago.

Greg Bacon , says: Website Show Comment February 14, 2020 at 3:33 pm GMT

It soon emerged that the Iranian was in fact in Baghdad to discuss with the Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi a plan that might lead to the de-escalation of the ongoing conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran, a meeting that the White House apparently knew about may even have approved.

It's now obvious that the slumlord son-in-law Jared Kushner is really running the USA's ME policy.
Kushner is not only a dear friend of at-large war criminal Bibi Nuttyahoo, he also belongs to the Judaic religious cult of Chabad Lubavitcher, whom make the war-loving Christian Evangelicals almost look sane. Chabad also prays for some kind of Armageddon to bring forth their Messiah, just like the Evangelicals.

One can tell by Kushner's nasty comments he makes about Arabs/Persians and Palestinians in particular, that he loathes and despises those people and has an idiotic ear to cry into in the malignant form of Zion Don, AKA President Trump.

It's been said that Kushner is also a Mossad agent or asset, which is a good guess, since that agency has been placing their agents into the WH since at least the days of Clinton, who had Rahm Emmanuel to whisper hate into his ear.

That the Iranian General Soleimani was lured into Iraq so the WH could murder the man probably most responsible for halting the terrorist activities of the heart-eating, head-chopping US/Israel/KSA creation ISIS brings to mind the motto of the Israeli version of the CIA, the Mossad.

"By way of deception thou shalt make war."

Between Trump's incompetence, his vanity–and yes, his stupidity– and his appointing Swamp creatures into his cabinet and allowing Jared to run the ME show, Trump is showing himself to be a worse choice than Hillary.
If that maniac gets another 4 years, humanity is doomed. Or at least the USA for sure will perish.

[Feb 10, 2020] Trump lost anti-war republicans and independents; he now might lose the elections

Feb 10, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Caroline Dorminey and Sumaya Malas do an excellent job of making the case for extending New START:

One of the most critical arms control agreements, the New Strategic Reduction Arms Treaty (New START), will disappear soon if leaders do not step up to save it. New START imposes limits on the world's two largest nuclear arsenals, Russia and the United States, and remains one of the last arms control agreements still in effect. Those limits expire in exactly one year from Wednesday, and without it, both stockpiles will be unconstrained for the first time in decades.

Democrats in Congress already express consistent support for the extension of New START, turning the issue into a Democratic Party agenda item. But today's hyper-partisan landscape need not dictate that arms control must become solely a Democratic priority. Especially when the treaty in question still works, provides an important limit on Russian nuclear weapons, and ultimately increases our national security.

Dorminey and Malas are right that there should be broad support for extending the treaty. The treaty's ratification was frequently described as a "no-brainer" win for U.S. national security when it was being debated ten years ago, and the treaty's extension is likewise obviously desirable for both countries. The trouble is that the Trump administration doesn't judge this treaty or any other international agreement on the merits, and only a few of the Republicans that voted to ratify the treaty are still in office. Trump and his advisers have been following the lead of anti-arms control ideologues for years. That is why the president seized on violations of the INF Treaty as an excuse to get rid of that treaty instead of working to resolve the dispute with Russia, and that is why he expressed his willingness to pull out of the Open Skies Treaty. Trump has encountered no resistance from the GOP as he goes on a treaty-killing spree, because by and large the modern Republican Party couldn't care less about arms control.

Like these hard-liners, Trump doesn't think there is such a thing as a "win-win" agreement with another government, and for that he reason he won't support any treaty that imposes the same restrictions on both parties. We can see that the administration isn't serious about extending the treaty when we look at the far-fetched demands they insist on adding to the existing treaty. These additional demands are meant to serve as a smokescreen so that the administration can let the treaty die, and the administration is just stalling for time until the expiration occurs. The Russian government has said many times that it is ready and willing to accept an extension of the treaty without any conditions, and the U.S. response has been to let them eat static.

It would be ideal if Trump suddenly changed his position on all this and just extended the treaty, but all signs point in the opposite direction. What we need to start thinking about is what the next administration is going to have to do to rebuild the arms control architecture that this administration has demolished. There will be almost no time for the next president to extend the treaty next year, so it needs to be a top priority. If New START lapses, the U.S. and Russia would have to negotiate a new treaty to replace it, and in the current political climate the odds that the Senate would ratify an arms control treaty (or any treaty) are not good. It would be much easier and wiser to keep the current treaty alive, but we need to start preparing for the consequences of Trump's unwillingness to do that.

[Feb 10, 2020] Stench of Netanyahu in attack on K-1 base near Kirkuk: Did Washington Use a False Pretext for Its Recent Escalation in Iraq?

Notable quotes:
"... New York Times's ..."
Feb 08, 2020 | responsiblestatecraft.org

In a key piece of actual extensive, on-the-ground reporting , the New York Times's Alissa Rubin has raised serious questions about the official US account of who it was that attacked the K-1 base near Kirkuk, in eastern Iraq, on December 27. The United States almost immediately accused the Iran-backed Ketaib Hizbullah (KH) militia of responsibility. But Rubin quotes by name Brig. General Ahmed Adnan, the chief of intelligence for the Iraqi federal police at the same base, as saying, "All the indications are that it was Daesh" -- that is, ISIS.

She also presents considerable further detailed reporting on the matter. And she notes that though U.S. investigators claim to have evidence about KH's responsibility for the attack, they have presented none of it publicly. Nor have they shared it with the Iraqi government.

KH is a paramilitary organization that operates under the command of the Iraqi military and has been deeply involved in the anti-ISIS campaigns throughout the country.

The December 27 attack killed one Iraqi-American contractor and was cited by the Trump administration as reason to launch a large-scale attack on five KH bases some 400 miles to the west which killed around 50 KH fighters. Outraged KH fighters then mobbed the US embassy in Baghdad, breaking through an outside perimeter on its large campus, but causing no casualties. On January 2, Pres. Trump decided to escalate again, ordering the assassination of Iran's Gen. Qasem Soleimani and bringing the region and the world close to a massive shooting war.

The new evidence presented by Rubin makes it look as if Trump and his advisors had previously decided on a broad-scale plan to attack Iran's very influential allies in Iraq and were waiting for a triggering event– any triggering event!– to use as a pretext to launch it. The attack against the K-1 base presented them with that trigger, even though they have not been able to present any evidence that it was KH that undertook it.

This playbook looks very similar to the one that Ariel Sharon, who was Israel's Defense Minister in summer 1982, used to launch his wide attack against the PLO's presence in Lebanon in June that year. The "trigger" Sharon used to launch his long-prepared attack was the serious (but not fatal) wounding of Israel's ambassador in London, Shlomo Argov, which the Israeli government immediately blamed on the PLO.

Regarding London in 1982, as regarding K-1 last December, the actual identity of the assailant(s) was misreported by the government that used it as a trigger for escalation. In London, the police fairly speedily established that it was not the PLO but operatives of an anti-PLO group headed by a man called Abu Nidal who had attacked Argov. But by the time they had discovered and publicized that fact, Israeli tanks were already deep inside Lebanon.

The parallels and connections between the two cases go further. If, as now seems likely, the authors of the K-1 attack were indeed Da'esh, then they succeeded brilliantly in triggering a bitter fight between two substantial forces in the coalition that had been fighting against them in Iraq. Regarding the 1982 London attack, its authors also succeeded brilliantly in triggering a lethal conflict between two forces (one substantial, one far less so) that were both engaged in bitter combat against Abu Nidal's networks.

Worth noting: Abu Nidal's main backer, throughout his whole campaign against the PLO, was Saddam Hussein's brutal government in Iraq. (The London assailants deposited their weapons in the Iraqi embassy after completing the attack.) Many senior strategists and planners for ISIS in Iraq were diehard remnants of Saddam's formerly intimidating security forces.

Also worth noting: Three months in to Sharon's massive 1982 invasion of Lebanon, it seemed to have successfully reached its goals of expelling the PLO's fighting forces from Lebanon and installing a strongly pro-Israeli government there. But over the longer haul, the invasion looked much less successful. The lengthy Israeli occupation of south Lebanon that followed 1982 served to incubate the birth and growth of the (pro-Iranian) Hizbullah there. Today, Hizbullah is a strong political movement inside Lebanon that commands a very capable fighting force that expelled Israel's last presence from Lebanon in 2000, rebuffed a subsequent Israeli invasion of the country six years later, and still exerts considerable deterrent power against Israel today

Very few people in Israel today judge the 1982 invasion of Lebanon to have been a wise move. How will the historians of the future view Trump's decision to launch his big escalation against Iran's allies in Iraq, presumably as part of his "maximum pressure" campaign against Tehran?

This article has been republished with permission from Just World News .

[Feb 09, 2020] Following the US assassination of Soleimani, the Trump administration is leading American conduct abroad into a zone of probably unprecedented lawlessness by Patrick Lawrence

Notable quotes:
"... In our late-imperial phase, we seem to have reached that moment when, whatever high officials say in matters of the empire's foreign policy, we must consider whether the opposite is in fact the case. So we have it now. ..."
"... Lawlessness begets lawlessness is the operative (and obvious) principle. In a remarkable speech at the Hoover Institution last week, Pompeo termed the Soleimani assassination "the restoration of deterrence" and appeared to promise other such operations against other nations Washington considers adversaries. Ominously enough, Pompeo singled out China and Russia. ..."
"... Against the background of the events noted above, it is clear from this speech alone that our secretary of state is a dangerously incompetent figure when it comes to judging global events, the proper responses to them, and the probable consequences of a given response. If we are going to think about costs, the heaviest will fall on Americans in months to come. ..."
"... Immediately after the U.S. drone that killed Soleimani at Baghdad International Airport, Mohammad Javad Zarif sent out a message whose importance should not be missed. "End of US's malign presence in West Asia has begun," Iran's foreign minister wrote. These few words, rendered in Twitterese, bear careful consideration given they come from an official whose nation had just sustained a critical blow. ..."
"... Gradually but rather certainly now, the community of nations is losing its patience with late-phase imperial America. With exceptions such as Japan and Israel, the Baltics and Saudi Arabia, this is so across both oceans and more or less across the non–Western world. In the Middle East, the American presence will remain for the time being, but we are now in the beginning-of-the-end phase. This was Zarif's meaning. And we now know the end will come neither peaceably nor lawfully. ..."
"... Amazing how the US government is bringing back the old days: "Slave markets" See: reuters.com/article/us-libya-security-rights/executions-torture-and-slave-markets-persist-in-libya-u-n-idUSKBN1GX1JY "Pillage", as pointed out in this article. ..."
"... To have such a person as the top diplomat in the USA shows how low the USA has sunk. For him to pretend to be some sort of Christian is sinister and extremely dangerous for everyone. There is NO reason for the US animosity towards Iran except subservience to Israel, which, again without real justification, claims to be terrified of Iran, which unlike Israel is NOT attacking others and has not for centuries. ..."
"... SecStae's remarks about deterrence befit a military commander, NOT a diplomat. Paranoia, grandiosity and violence begin with potus and cascade downward and about. Congress does its part in investing in machinery of war. ..."
"... Pompeo reminds me of the pigs in Animal Farm. He is a grotesque figure, steely-eyed, cold-blooded, fanatical, and hateful. "We lied, cheated, and stole" Pompous Maximus will get his comeuppance one of these days ..."
"... Pillage as policy. The Empire has fully embraced gangster capitalism for its modus operandi. ..."
"... Here is an interesting article that explains how governments have changed the rules so that they can justify killing anyone who they believe may at some point in time have the potential to be involved in a terrorist plot: viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-bethlehem-doctrine-and-new.html ..."
"... This rather Orwellian move gives governments the justification that they to kill any of us just because they feel that we might pose a threat and that is a very, very scary prospect. It is very reminiscent of the movie Minority Report where crimes of the future are punished in the present. ..."
Jan 21, 2020 | consortiumnews.com

Special to Consortium News

Of all the preposterous assertions made since the drone assassination of Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad on Jan. 3, the prize for bottomless ignorance must go to the bottomlessly ignorant Mike Pompeo.

Speaking after the influential Iranian general's death, our frightening secretary of state declaimed on CBS's Face the Nation , "There was sound and just and legal reason for the actions the President took, and the world is safer as a result." In appearances on five news programs on the same Sunday morning, the evangelical paranoid who now runs American foreign policy was a singer with a one-note tune. "It's very clear the world's a safer place today," Pompeo said on ABC's Jan. 5 edition of This Week.

In our late-imperial phase, we seem to have reached that moment when, whatever high officials say in matters of the empire's foreign policy, we must consider whether the opposite is in fact the case. So we have it now.

We are not safer now that Soleimani, a revered figure across much of the Middle East, has been murdered. The planet has just become significantly more dangerous, especially but not only for Americans, and this is so for one simple reason: The Trump administration, Pompeo bearing the standard, has just tipped American conduct abroad into a zone of probably unprecedented lawlessness, Pompeo's nonsensical claim to legality notwithstanding .

This is a very consequential line to cross.

Hardly does it hold that Washington's foreign policy cliques customarily keep international law uppermost in their minds and that recent events are aberrations. Nothing suggests policy planners even consider legalities except when it makes useful propaganda to charge others with violating international statutes and conventions.

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Neither can the Soleimani assassination be understood in isolation: This was only the most reckless of numerous policy decisions recently taken in the Middle East. Since late last year, to consider merely the immediate past, the Trump administration has acted ever more flagrantly in violation of all international legal authorities and documents -- the UN Charter, the International Criminal Court, and the International Court of Justice in the Hague chief among them.

Washington is into full-frontal lawlessness now.

'Keeping the Oil'

Shortly after Trump announced the withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria last October, the president reversed course -- probably under Pentagon and State Department pressure -- and said some troops would remain to protect Syria's oilfields. "We want to keep the oil," Trump declared in the course of a Twitter storm. It soon emerged that the administration's true intent was to prevent the Assad government in Damascus from reasserting sovereign control over Syrian oilfields.

The Russians had the honesty to call this for what it was. "Washington's attempt to put oilfields there under [its] control is illegal," Sergei Lavrov said at the time. "In fact, it's tantamount to robbery," the Russian foreign minister added. (John Kiriakou, writing for Consortium News, pointed out that it is a violation of the 1907 Hague Convention. It is call pillage.)

Few outside the Trump administration, and possibly no one, has argued that Soleimani's murder was legitimate under international law. Not only was the Iranian general from a country with which the U.S. is not at war, which means the crime is murder; the drone attack was also a clear violation of Iraqi sovereignty, as has been widely reported.

In response to Baghdad's subsequent demand that all foreign troops withdraw from Iraqi soil, Pompeo flatly refused even to discuss the matter with Iraqi officials -- yet another openly contemptuous violation of Iraqi sovereignty.

It gets worse. In his own response to Baghdad's decision to evict foreign troops, Trump threatened sanctions -- "sanctions like they've never seen before" -- an