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[Dec 23, 2020] America is now ruled by people older than the 'gerontocracy' of Soviet Union's twilight days -- RT Op-ed

Dec 23, 2020 | www.rt.com

Marek Weglinski 1 day ago 22 Dec, 2020 08:25 AM

Maybe it's a telltale that the Soviet-like demise for the US is near. Hopefully the American empire will not come to a SUPERNOVA-like ending (inflicting great damage to the rest of the world), before turning itself into a dwarf.

[Dec 23, 2020] Dominion Security Director Files Lawsuits Against Trump, Conservative Media

Dec 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

DonGenaro 4 hours ago remove link

is he sure he has standing ? :-)

Fish Gone Bad 2 hours ago

Good one.

[Dec 23, 2020] The major in-between 2016 and 2020 election change was a total loss of our collective grip on reality, beginning with the fact that most of the country esd brainwashed that Russiagate is real and that neoliberal Dems somehow represent people of the USA, not just military industrial complex, CIA and Wall street.

Dec 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Which is fine -- victori sunt spoila and all that -- but it's already safe to say the Trump years will be remembered as a brutal black comedy that made winners and losers alike look very, very bad. It was supposed to be a historic, norms-smashing catastrophe, but the reality is that almost nothing actually happened during the Trump years, except for a very long, exhausting story. The major in-between change was a total loss of our collective grip on reality, beginning with the fact that most of the country thinks we just went to hell and back a thousand times, instead of making just one noisy trip in a circle, arriving just where we might have four years ago, if Joe Biden had run instead of Hillary Clinton. The tiniest conceivable step, but oh so much grief and self-deception to get there!

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highwaytoserfdom 1 hour ago

Matt Im sure you know the

"The press is a gang of cruel(censored) . Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for (censored)offs and misfits -- a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage."


― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

RexSeven 2 hours ago

He put on display for all to see exactly what our media, deep state, and democrat party is. And you dud nothing Matt. Nothing. Go F yourself.

incharge1976 PREMIUM 1 hour ago (Edited)

Crap article and terrible picture.

The reason Trump's 4 years were crazy was because of the corrupt Democrats who lied the entire time with bs investigations and hearings.

Richard Chesler 1 hour ago

A breath of fresh air after corrupt charlatan Homobama.

NotKennedy 1 hour ago

An American hero, Donald Trump prevented Hillary.

Itchy and Scratchy 1 hour ago

Trump garnered a historic 75-80mm legitimate votes and a massive landslide victory and this irrelevant dope writes a banal hit piece on him? SERIOUSLY PATHETIC!

[Dec 23, 2020] (deplorables) should never serve in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into 'polite' society. We have a list." Jennifer Rubin

Dec 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

Beavertales , says: December 22, 2020 at 3:43 pm GMT • 11.7 hours ago

(deplorables) should never serve in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into 'polite' society. We have a list." – Jennifer Rubin

Never interfere with an adversary who is letting their mask slip. Thank you for the Hillary moment, Jennifer.

[Dec 23, 2020] Trump is organizing Washington DC rally also for January 6.

Dec 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

Johnny Smoggins , says: December 22, 2020 at 1:50 pm GMT • 13.6 hours ago

@A123

Trump is organizing Washington DC rally also for January 6.

Do you think he'll actually turn up this time, or just drive by on the way to the golf course like last time?

[Dec 23, 2020] Robert Reich is the guy who while doing nothing as Labor Secretary under Clinton, went on to to write books denouncing the immirseration of the working and middle classes.

Dec 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

ivan , says: December 22, 2020 at 1:01 pm GMT • 14.4 hours ago

Robert Reich is the guy who while doing nothing as Labor Secretary under Clinton, went on to to write books denouncing the immirseration of the working and middle classes. Talk us cheap I guess. I've always wondered why this fake couldn't stick around in government and made a difference when he could. He is perhaps auditioning for a role as the world's tallest midget with his fighting talk.

[Dec 23, 2020] Early the USSR vs. the contemporary USA: history repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

Dec 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

Daniel Rich , says: December 22, 2020 at 7:04 am GMT • 20.3 hours ago

"Any R now promoting rejection of an election or calling to not to follow the will of voters or making baseless allegations of fraud should never serve in office, join a corporate board, find a faculty position or be accepted into 'polite' society. We have a list ."

How very early USSR

[Dec 23, 2020] Election or selection?

Dec 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

Biff , says: December 22, 2020 at 6:32 am GMT • 20.9 hours ago

The Establishment "Deep State" has won a major victory in the United States with the election of Joe Biden as president.

That would be 'selection' of Joe Biden.

[Dec 22, 2020] The transition of the yoke of the yoke of Russophobic activism in EU

Dec 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Virgile , Dec 21 2020 20:31 utc | 8

The UK counts on the Commonwealth countries and the usa to become its preferred partners.
Its visceral hatred for Russia will cease to influence the EU and the EU will do what it should have done years ago, partner with Russian and become a much more powerful block. Bye sick UK. Welcome healthy Russia...

BillB , Dec 21 2020 21:38 utc | 14

Virgile @8

The yoke of Russophobic activism will presumably be taken up by Poland, the Baltic states, and whoever else can be recruited into it.

[Dec 22, 2020] Snow job! SolarWinds Russian hack story proves the CIA writes US foreign policy, not the White House by Robert Bridge

Notable quotes:
"... the media – playing judge, jury and executioner – has leveled blame on the usual suspect. ..."
"... Did anyone actually believe that Russia would escape a major US election season without a ceremonial tarring and feathering by the media? It's almost as though frantic journalists, unable to sell the 'Trump Beats Biden with Kremlin Collusion' narrative, have dreamt up this latest work of pulp fiction to keep the ball of 'Russian villainy' bouncing into the next US administration. Heaven forbid if the media just sat by and let protracted peace break out between Washington and Moscow. ..."
"... By now it would seem that the mainstream media would use a bit more discretion before screaming 'Russia!' inside of a crowded planet every time a US computer system is hacked. After all, Russia is certainly not the only country in the world with a plethora of adventure-seeking hackers sitting around bored in their underwear, nor is it the only country in the world that may be tempted – theoretically speaking – to sneak a peek into Uncle Sam's software and, at the risk of sounding vulgar, hardware. ..."
"... Just ask Democratic Congressman Eric Swalwell, who allowed himself to be lured into a honey trap by a Chinese Communist spy named – I kid you not – Fang Fang. Aside from making James Bond thrillers essential reading for all politicians, the Democrats may wish to inquire how a member of the House INTELLIGENCE Committee fell for such a scheme. More to the point, however, Swalwell was one of those deranged Democrats screaming 'Russian collusion!' at the height of the Mueller investigation, another waste of taxpayer funds that turned up zero evidence of collusion between Trump and the Kremlin ..."
Dec 21, 2020 | www.rt.com

As incoming nominees of a future Biden administration have stopped short in naming a culprit in the SolarWinds hack, the media – playing judge, jury and executioner – has leveled blame on the usual suspect.

Did anyone actually believe that Russia would escape a major US election season without a ceremonial tarring and feathering by the media? It's almost as though frantic journalists, unable to sell the 'Trump Beats Biden with Kremlin Collusion' narrative, have dreamt up this latest work of pulp fiction to keep the ball of 'Russian villainy' bouncing into the next US administration. Heaven forbid if the media just sat by and let protracted peace break out between Washington and Moscow.

Indeed, when SolarWinds – a software platform that counts among its clients the Pentagon, State Department, Justice Department, and the National Security Agency – suffered an alleged hack, the Washington Post jumped on the evil Russia connection faster than Ian Fleming.

SolarWinds hack: US Treasury's unclassified systems breached as Washington points finger at Russia and China

"The Russian hackers breached email systems," wrote Ellen Nakashima and Craig Timberg in the Post without offering a stitch of evidence (Timberg, readers may recall, is the journalist who relied on a shady outfit known as PropOrNot to report , wrongly, that some 200 news outlets were peddling Russian-inspired "fake news."). Quoting those always handy "people who spoke on the condition of anonymity," the tag team claimed that the "scale of the Russian espionage operation appears to be large."

Ironically, the most reliable real-life entity that Nakashima and Timberg quoted in their story comes by way of the Russian Embassy in Washington, which called the reports of Russian hacking "baseless."

But never mind. If the Bezos-empire publication says Russia is the guilty party then who are we mere mortals to ask any questions. So now we're off again to the 'blame Russia' races.

At this point, it must be asked: who is more responsible for writing US foreign policy, the mainstream media, with their never-ending supply of 'anonymous sources' to substantiate their fantastic assertions, or the US government? That question seems reasonable after listening to interviews with freshly appointed members of the Biden administration, who apparently never got the memo about 'Russian baddies'.

Jennifer Granholm, for example, the energy secretary nominee, committed the cardinal sin of not recognizing the 'Russian bogeyman' in an interview with ABC talking head, George Stephanopolous.

"We don't know fully what happened, the extent of it, and, quite frankly, we don't know fully for sure who did it," Granholm said , leaving Stephanopoulos, deprived of clickable Russophobic sound bites, looking dejected and forlorn.

Perhaps Stephanopoulos was anticipating that Granholm would simply regurgitate media talking points about Russia's unproven hack, like the absolutely reckless one put out by Reuters.

Reporting on the SolarWinds hack, the Reuters article screamed 'Russia' from the opening gates. Yet not a single living person is quoted from the incoming Biden administration to take responsibility for a claim that has real-life consequences, especially when some members of Congress are calling the electronic breach an "act of war."

"President-elect Joe Biden's team will consider several options to punish Russia for its suspected role in the unprecedented hacking of US government agencies and companies once he takes office, from new financial sanctions to cyberattacks on Russian infrastructure, people familiar with the matter say."

Here we go again: Washington Post claims RUSSIA behind SolarWinds hack, citing same 'sources' as it did for Russiagate

The very same deplorable tactic was used in an interview 'Face the Nation' conducted with Ron Klain, the incoming White House chief of staff.

When pressed by the interviewer Margaret Brennan if there was "any doubt that Russia was behind [the hack]," Klain provided an answer that Brennan was clearly not satisfied with. In other words, Klain never mentioned the perennial villain Russia as a possible suspect.

"We should be hearing a clear and unambiguous allocation of responsibility from the White House, from the intelligence community," he said. "They're the ones who should be making those messages and delivering the ascertainment of responsibility."

Brennan was having none of it, however, and pushed on with the 'blame Russia' narrative.

"Well, the president-elect was pretty clear when he spoke to my colleague Stephen Colbert on CBS earlier this week, and he was asked about Russia and he said they'll be held accountable," Brennan remarked, desperate to hear Klain pronounce the name. "He said they'll face financial repercussions for what they did. Is that no longer the case? He no longer believes it's Russia?"

At this point, some very convenient technical problems helped to cut the pathetic excuse for journalism off the air.

By now it would seem that the mainstream media would use a bit more discretion before screaming 'Russia!' inside of a crowded planet every time a US computer system is hacked. After all, Russia is certainly not the only country in the world with a plethora of adventure-seeking hackers sitting around bored in their underwear, nor is it the only country in the world that may be tempted – theoretically speaking – to sneak a peek into Uncle Sam's software and, at the risk of sounding vulgar, hardware.

Just ask Democratic Congressman Eric Swalwell, who allowed himself to be lured into a honey trap by a Chinese Communist spy named – I kid you not – Fang Fang. Aside from making James Bond thrillers essential reading for all politicians, the Democrats may wish to inquire how a member of the House INTELLIGENCE Committee fell for such a scheme. More to the point, however, Swalwell was one of those deranged Democrats screaming 'Russian collusion!' at the height of the Mueller investigation, another waste of taxpayer funds that turned up zero evidence of collusion between Trump and the Kremlin.

Dream of alliance from Lisbon to Vladivostok dies: German efforts to create a Europe without Russia forged a Europe against Russia

In conclusion, it is worth noting that the timing of the purported attack on SolarWinds, coming as it does just weeks before Inauguration Day when Joe Biden is expected to be sworn in as the 46th POTUS, is extremely suspicious in of itself. Not only is there a power struggle going on behind the scenes for the White House, with the Trump administration claiming the election was marred by massive fraud, but Joe Biden's own son Hunter has been accused of influence-peddling in places like Ukraine and China.

The Biden family, naturally, has rejected the claims, while the media has practically buried the story. Meanwhile, Russia, much like in 2016 when it was accused of hacking Hillary Clinton's emails, is being dragged into another American political drama, at the most crucial time, without rhyme or reason. At least when it comes to Russia the media can take credit for being very predictable, albeit absolutely reckless and dangerous in its tactics. Would it kill them to take five minutes off poking the Russian bear?

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Robert Bridge is an American writer and journalist. He is the author of 'Midnight in the American Empire,'


Bill Spence 10 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 04:28 PM

We are dealing with compound fraud but it is not clear how anyone gains an advantage when the propaganda against Russia has saturated the public mind.
Fenianfromcork Bill Spence 5 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 08:45 PM
Simple magicians conjuring trick. Look here while Ido something else here.
DexterMont Bill Spence 9 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 05:19 PM
It's just self delusion in the American political class. No one else is paying any attention to it.
It's me 9 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 04:54 PM
Same old Same old, we don't have to prove Russians hacked the Election, because it was hacked. It's up to Russia to prove they didn't hack the Election.
VaimacaPiru 7 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 06:55 PM
Mr Bridge! Your title should be more accurate! 'The Transnational Corporate Class that own the media sets US foreign policy' Thank you!
Bill Spence VaimacaPiru 7 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 07:03 PM
Right now Donald Trump and Pompeo are setting the foreign policy not the transnational corporations who have no head. Generally the CIA and State Department set foreign policy not those corporations. The CIA has a different point of view, the national security point of view. Many of those corporations are happy trading with China. They have reached a contradictory position.
IslandT 2 hours ago 22 Dec, 2020 12:04 AM
According to the Trump administration, Russia is one of the actor behinds the dominion incident which helps Biden won the election, so if Trump continue in power, he might sanction Russia. And now we have this hacking incident under Trump administration, if you say this is a hoax and it comes from Biden camp, then this will not make sense at all because Biden has already won the election so he does not needs to use any hoax to down Trump anymore. If Russia is indeed hacking then those previous anti-Trump FBI and CIA directors should have used this as an issue to attack Russia and Trump before the election instead of creating the Afghan hoax which has no prove at all (did USA has proved on the hack? Nobody knows)! The present director for both FBI and CIA are all Trump men and thus I don't think Biden team is behinds this hacking incident hoax. I read the article and know that Trump team (especially Mike Pompeo) calls for maximum punishment on Russia, Russia needs to prepare and to avoid the worst case scenario before Biden takes power. I think there is no sense at all for deep state to hate Russia so much because all they want is profit, it is time for Russia to have a friendly chat with all those parties that involve in Russia-Hate campaign. You can't get blamed by everyone forever, this need to stop!
Jeffrey Perkins 9 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 05:00 PM
pentagon propoganda money can control the media in many ways
Atilla863 1 hour ago 22 Dec, 2020 12:50 AM
Just wonder why the EU politicians haven't joined the US - chorus yet condemning the Russians.
EthanCarterIII 1 hour ago 22 Dec, 2020 12:49 AM
Maybe they should put more time and effort into increasing their security instead of blaming people? It seems every other month there's another story about hackers getting into the systems, and frankly they need to start looking in the mirror. Oh, but then Hillary wants to be Secretary of Defense and left a private top secret server in her bathroom hacked by anybody and everybody, so maybe it isn't so much "hacking" as incompetence?
dangood013 30 minutes ago 22 Dec, 2020 02:05 AM
Nakashima and other do not make stuff up. They just regurgitate what their National Security sources tell them upon penalty of " losing access " to their precious sources.
Fuzzerbear 2 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 11:40 PM
oh no - not the Russians again. They are really bad bad bad - just as bad as Iran, Iraq, Syria . . . . . . .. Such a thorn for the USA, Israel, the 5 lies, etc. How boring will the reality be without all the fake news.
liarof1776 3 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 11:10 PM
america is having ashkenazic genetic problem: paranoia
Atilla863 1 hour ago 22 Dec, 2020 12:36 AM
Don't worry Russia is ALWAYS the convenient scapegoat. What a shame American politicians and their supporters have turned out to be!, life is meaningless without Russian phantoms. Sad
Solecismcles 7 hours ago 21 Dec, 2020 06:41 PM
Cowhorts: Warshington & most media; though more overtly when Dem's have Executive influence. However, so much scum is entrenched throughout the bureaucracies that their evil lurks and preys regardless of which Party controls WH.

[Dec 22, 2020] Neoliberal MSM di not have enough of Russiagate, they again are playing judge, jury and executioner by Robert Bridge

Notable quotes:
"... the media – playing judge, jury and executioner – has leveled blame on the usual suspect. ..."
"... Did anyone actually believe that Russia would escape a major US election season without a ceremonial tarring and feathering by the media? It's almost as though frantic journalists, unable to sell the 'Trump Beats Biden with Kremlin Collusion' narrative, have dreamt up this latest work of pulp fiction to keep the ball of 'Russian villainy' bouncing into the next US administration. Heaven forbid if the media just sat by and let protracted peace break out between Washington and Moscow. ..."
Dec 21, 2020 | www.rt.com

As incoming nominees of a future Biden administration have stopped short in naming a culprit in the SolarWinds hack, the media – playing judge, jury and executioner – has leveled blame on the usual suspect.

Did anyone actually believe that Russia would escape a major US election season without a ceremonial tarring and feathering by the media? It's almost as though frantic journalists, unable to sell the 'Trump Beats Biden with Kremlin Collusion' narrative, have dreamt up this latest work of pulp fiction to keep the ball of 'Russian villainy' bouncing into the next US administration. Heaven forbid if the media just sat by and let protracted peace break out between Washington and Moscow.

[Dec 22, 2020] Those Russkies really kick butt. They are everywhere these days. The Onion puts out less ridiculous stories than the US "intelligence" agencies.

Dec 22, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

OlderOldPhart 9 hours ago

The only information taken that rattles US.gov is how corrupt everyone is. The fear is having that become irrefutably public,

flyonmywall 9 hours ago

Those Russkies really kick butt. They are everywhere these days.

Unknown User 8 hours ago

The Onion puts out less ridiculous stories than the US "intelligence" agencies.

Dzerzhhinsky 6 hours ago

The Chinese are in the dark because they won't buy Australian coal, the Russian superhackers cracked the uncrackable Tradewinds123 password, and Iran is doing something ?

It's all a diversion, don't look at me look over there.

The intensity of the disinformation is directly related to the upcoming US collapse.

yewtee 2 hours ago

Will there be civil war ?

Lee Bertin 56 minutes ago

Have you not noticed that it has been going on for four years

BGen. Jack Ripper 9 hours ago

No enemy is more terrifying than the one in our midst.

Krinkle Sach 8 hours ago

🇮🇱💩🇮🇱💩🇮🇱

Whiteman_Sachs 9 hours ago

There is another headquarters in VA, specifically Langley that's more likely the intruder. Imagine this....The penetration of this intrusion is so vast and widespread. Access to hundreds of companies, contractors, military, ect. I doubt the a foreign entity could get so far inside. Imagine if our new leader ship at the Def Dept decided to shut the backdoor. Cutoff access to the bad actors a CIA. They've already closed off operational assistance to the CIA. The response has been so predicable....Russia Russia blah blah. I think many things are going on behind the scene. I think Trump is kneecapping his rivals on what could be the way out.

thezone 9 hours ago

PLEASE remember MIT Romney and all the swamp elite decried Trump for firing Chris Krebs.

Mr. 'there's never been a more secure' election.

Now we hear that Russia has owned government systems for a full year right under his nose.

jwoop66 8 hours ago

I just spent two hours watching this. Krebs is in it talking about all the bad actors out there trying to subvert our elections, and that its the first thing he thinks of in the morning, and the last thing he thinks of before he goes to bed.

yes, and then he says "perfect election" within days. f'ing frauds.

https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Weapon-David-Sanger/dp/B08L7FKH6M/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2LMHJNQR5O468&dchild=1&keywords=the+perfect+weapon+2020&qid=1608608846&s=instant-video&sprefix=the+perfect+weapon%2Cinstant-video%2C165&sr=1-1

MysterySheepdog 9 hours ago

That crap of an article brought me 2 or 3 minutes closer to death.

And hell doesn't want me, Satan has a restraining order.

DurdenRae 26 minutes ago

They don't really qualify for intelligence if they all they can come up with is that kind of malarkey...

aberfoyle_crumplehausen 7 hours ago

As an average dude, I consider my initial thoughts and reactions to things typical of most others. When I first heard of this latest 'Russian Hack' I instantly thought "so the transition is almost here and they launch their first psyop".

So I am obviously not alone in my intuition and this means the media is becoming laughably irrelevant to the common folk.

Babadook 7 hours ago

See what happens when you elect incompetent, inept fools to run your government, they only appoint incompetent, inept fools to run the country's military, FBI & intel services.

sp0rkovite 7 hours ago

Barr is a democrat now?

You_Cant_Quit_Me 8 hours ago

Has anyone considered the US was simultaneously attacked with a biological weapon known as Covid-19 and hacked around the same time frame? Maybe the US with its constant false allegations against Russia has forced Russia to align with China making the US the common enemy?

Russia was not behind the hack attack despite what we are being told. It is a false flag with someone trying to frame Russia.

Kreditanstalt 8 hours ago

The other wing of The Party has its own "CHINA! CHINA! CHINA! propaganda campaign too

JackOliver4 8 hours ago (Edited)

They hate Russia because Russia tells the TRUTH !

Everything Russia says is well thought out and makes sense !

Once the US got away with the FAKE moon landing BS - they were enabled - sad !

I caught a glimpse of a 'Who wants to be a millionaire' episode - question was 'How many people have walked on the MOON' ?

Apparently the answer is 12 !!

The brainwashing runs DEEP !!

RKKA 8 hours ago

It's not about who breaks the networks or who attacks Nord Stream 2. The fact is that today's situation is even more explosive than during the Cold War.

The NATO alliance already borders on Russia and all the lines that were previously "red" are not recognized by anyone, primarily by the West.

The situation, thanks to aggressive rhetoric and the movement of military units, has become much more dangerous than it was during the Cold War.
This is confirmed by the German Foreign Minister. Frank-Walter Steinmeier called the confrontation between the West and Russia much more dangerous than that which took place between NATO countries and the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

Five_Black_Eyes_Intel_Agency 8 hours ago (Edited)

"intelligence" agencies

LOL

This is yet more squirming by an empire that looks increasingly bloated and its own worst enemy. Good luck clowns, but you wouldn't know what to do with it.

Xena fobe 9 hours ago

Xiden doesn't know Russia exists. No, this is not being done to persuade Xiden.

Late onset ADHD 9 hours ago (Edited)

Without the 'right' enemy, a politician is a useless appendage.

transcendent_wannabe 5 minutes ago

This youtuber gives a pretty good insider view of what has occurred. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLhk_gqYaEg US TREASURY HACKED because of SOLARWINDS You have to watch all the way to the end to get the full picture.

Basically its our own good-ole-boy network of insiders stealing data to sell for money. Yeah, can you believe that our esteemed coke-addicted elite class would sell out their own country for cash? Heh, we always wanted full transparency in government, so now the data is exposed. I would expect the future to be sprinkled with embarrassing data revelations used to discredit various players. There has been too much secrecy in government anyways. Let the sun shine in on all those secrets.

Lee Bertin 52 minutes ago

This is just a distraction, just smoke and mirrors. Do not lose focus on the game that is played in front of your wide open eyes

Loanman26 1 hour ago

Dmitri Alperovitch.

Donde esta?

Theedrich 2 hours ago

From the article, " Pentagon, DHS, State Dept., 18,000 others possibly hacked by Russia, reports say ":

"While targets of the SolarWinds hack included the U.S. Treasury Department and the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), there is no complete list of the government departments and agencies and U.S. companies compromised in the hack. Bloomberg reported U.S. government departments targeted included the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the State Department, the National Institute of Health (NIH) as well as some parts of the Department of Defense were targeted in the hack. The New York Times reported SolarWinds products are used throughout nearly all Fortune 500 companies, including the New York Times itself. The New York Times also reported SolarWinds is used by the Los Alamos National Laboratory, which designs nuclear weapons, and by Boeing, a major U.S. defense contractor.

"Following the hack, the Verge reported SolarWinds deleted a list of high profile clients from its website, though an archived copy of the client page states 425 of the Fortune 500 companies use their products, as well as all branches of the U.S. military, the National Security Agency (NSA), and even the Office of the President of the United States. The company's software is also used by all of the top five U.S. accounting firms and hundreds of colleges and universities around the world. It is not immediately clear if these SolarWinds clients specifically used the affected products listed."

Since it now seems that the Dominion software used in the Nov. 3 presidential election was, contrary to law, connected to the internet, can we be sure that the election itself was unaffected?

As Hunter Biden would say: "Probably not."

apparently 5 hours ago

this is likely false, for the lack of specifics and associated journalist hot air.

amanfromMars 6 hours ago

Muddying the waters or clearing the air and the decks? With so many crazy actors dependent upon the continued existence of mad fields, one does have to expand one's horizons and include the full list of players in such great games. So ..... in praise of such a realisation and sensible development ......

amanfromMars 1 Mon 21 Dec 17:54 [2012211754] ........ being fair and inclusive on https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2020/12/21/solarwinds_sunburst_evolve/#c_4167885

Re: Pot and Kettle (again)........

Quote: "From the quality of the threat design, the range of techniques used, and the nature of its victims, this was a nation state at work and in MO and capabilities most likely Russia."
*
Rewrite required: "From the quality of the threat design, the range of techniques used, and the nature of its victims, this was a nation state at work. It could have been the NSA, GCHQ, the Russians or the Chinese. In MO most likely the NSA." ....... Anonymous Coward

You'll upset Israel if you leave them out of the picture, AC. And they'd love you to think they are capable of such a show of remote force even as they deny it straight to your face. They've built a tiny disparate nation upon such foundations. [More folk live in London than in Israel. That's how small it is]

The thing is, if it is none of the above and no nation state, is it something of an alien attack you didn't see coming, and that makes a lot of other vital things extremely vulnerable to similar unexpected events which can effortlessly deliver major catastrophic crises ....... flash market stock crashes.

It can be, and most probably more likely certainly is, given the fact there is no concrete evidence available to pin on a suspect and scapegoats, a wholly new APT Adept ACTive genre of disruptive mischief and creative destruction at ITs Work, Rest and Play.

APT.... Advanced Persistent Threat/Treat

ACT..... Advanced Cyber Threat/Treat

[Dec 21, 2020] Attempt to prove election fraud as a new Catch22

Some comments were edited for clarity
Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
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Cognitive Dissonance PREMIUM 7 hours ago (Edited)

No standing before the election. Too late to complain or sue after the election.

The new Catch 22.

Definition of catch-22

1 : a problematic situation for which the only solution is denied by a circumstance inherent in the problem or by a rule the show-business catch-22 -- no work unless you have an agent, no agent unless you've worked -- Mary Murphy also : the circumstance or rule that denies a solution

2a : an illogical, unreasonable, or senseless situation

b : a measure or policy whose effect is the opposite of what was intended

c : a situation presenting two equally undesirable alternatives

3 : a hidden difficulty or means of entrapment : catch

NoPension 6 hours ago

Heads I win. Tails you lose.

Tristan Ludlow 6 hours ago

Those that make fair elections impossible, will make violent revolutions inevitable, to paraphrase Kennedy.

StaySunny3000 7 hours ago

What a weasel decision. How do the judges expect the plantiffs to round up all the clerks who looked at ballots? Is it not the Sec. of State's responsibility to oversee the actions of the clerks? Wouldn't it be more proficient and, dare I say it, logical , to focus on the man that made the fraud possible?

Courts have been totally politicized. Justice isn't blind, it's been decapitated.

tunEphsh 7 hours ago remove link

Usual BS from courts--lack standing. No one has standing. Judges afraid of losing their jobs if they rule against the state. Shows how corrupt Georgia is (and other states too).

yerfej 7 hours ago

The reality is the US (all western nations) is done as a country, it is now a giant Mafioso organization run by neoliberals. After six decades the neoliberals have finally consolidated power over the media, courts, academia, bureaucracy, and big tech. No one can challenge the power structure, it is total and vicious, and anyone in their sights will be destroyed. Now is when people begin to realize what has transpired and the opposition begins to create resistance which will take a long time to formulate.

[Dec 21, 2020] We need a tea party for those machines. Nation wide.

Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

chubbar 9 hours ago

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/fox-news-fbn-block-attorney-matthew-deperno-appearing-hannity-lou-dobbs-explosive-antrim-county-report-dominion-voting-machines/

Yeah, all of this is completely normal and innocent. Unreal.

Xena fobe 9 hours ago

We need a tea party for those machines. Nation wide.

[Dec 21, 2020] A Pandemic of 'Russian Hacking' by Ray McGovern and Joe Lauria

Notable quotes:
"... The analysis the corporate press has relied on came from the private cyber-security firm FireEye. This question should be raised: Why has a private contractor at extra taxpayer expense carried out this cyber analysis rather than the already publicly-funded National Security Agency? ..."
"... Similarly, why did the private firm CrowdStrike, rather than the FBI, analyze the Democratic National Committee servers in 2016? ..."
"... Sanger is as active in blaming the Kremlin for hacking, as he and his erstwhile NYT colleague, neocon hero Judith Miller, were in insisting on the presence of (non-existent) weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, helping to facilitate a major invasion with mass loss of life. ..."
"... The Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-MEDIA-Academia-Think-Tank complex (MICIMATT, for short) needs credible "enemies" to justify unprecedentedly huge expenditures for arms -- the more so at a time when it is clearer than ever, that that the money would be far better spent at home. (MEDIA is in all caps because it is the sine-qua-non , the cornerstone to making the MICIMATT enterprise work.) ..."
"... Wasn't Fireeye the company that faced extremes of ridicule from the global IT community for trying to engage Hillary Clinton as their keynote speaker at a Cyber Defense Summit in 2019? ..."
"... Isn't this, just perhaps, precisely the fake news construct, planted in the minds of Americans ..."
"... As alluded to in the article, no-doubt part of the reason is because of the black-eye the intel agencies got (at least outside of The Beltway) in the 2003 Iraq WMDs debacle, which caused a lot of us (at least on the left-end of the political spectrum, who were already highly skeptical of US 'intelligence') to virtually completely disregard them as credible sources ..."
"... Not only will Americans be "stupid and or crazy enough" to believe this nonsense, but they will also attack anyone who questions their belief as a Putin apologist or conspiracy theorist. ..."
"... Always with the same mouthpieces, the same backdated investigations, the unnamed "official" sources. Phooey! ..."
"... The naked fear-mongering has become the stuff of jokes. I had a good laugh with my friends (over the phone) taking apart an article in the Guardian that claimed that Putin had surrounded himself with KGB agents. The article didn't mention that the KGB (and the USSR) have not existed in over a quarter century. Foreign policy narratives are great for laughs, ridicule, and satire. Too bad most so-called journalists are too ignorant or intellectually dishonest to come clean. ..."
Dec 21, 2020 | consortiumnews.com

Neither the actor, nor the motive, nor the damage done is known for certain in this latest scare story, write Ray McGovern and Joe Lauria.

The hyperbolic, evidence-free media reports on the "fresh outbreak" of the Russian-hacking disease seems an obvious attempt by intelligence to handcuff President-elect Joe Biden into a strong anti-Russian posture as he prepares to enter the White House. Biden might well need to be inoculated against the Russophobe fever.

There are obvious Biden intentions worrying the intelligence agencies, such as renewing the Iran nuclear deal and restarting talks on strategic arms limitation with Russia. Both carry the inherent "risk" of thawing the new Cold War.

Instead, New Cold Warriors are bent on preventing any such rapprochement with strong support from the intelligence community's mouthpiece media. U.S. hardliners are clearly still on the rise.

Interestingly, this latest hack story came out a day before the Electoral College formally elected Biden, and after the intelligence community, despite numerous previous warnings, said nothing about Russia interfering in the election. One wonders whether that would have been the assessment had Trump won.

Instead Russia decided to hack the U.S. government.

Except there is (typically) no hard evidence pinning it on Moscow.

Uncertainties

The official story is Russia hacked into U.S. "government networks, including in the Treasury and Commerce Departments," as David Sanger of The New York Times reported.

But plenty of things are uncertain. First, Sanger wrote last Sunday that "hackers have had free rein for much of the year, though it is not clear how many email and other systems they chose to enter."

The motive of the hack is uncertain, as well what damage may have been done.

"The motive for the attack on the agency and the Treasury Department remains elusive, two people familiar with the matter said," Sanger reported. "One government official said it was too soon to tell how damaging the attacks were and how much material was lost."

Sanger. (Wikimedia Commons)

On Friday, five days after the story first broke, in an article misleadingly headlined, "Suspected Russian hack is much worse than first feared," NBC News admitted:

" At this stage, it's not clear what the hackers have done beyond accessing top-secret government networks and monitoring data."

Who conducted the hack is also not certain.

NBC reported that the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency "has not said who it thinks is the 'advanced persistent threat actor' behind the 'significant and ongoing' campaign, but many experts are pointing to Russia."

At first Sanger was certain in his piece that Russia was behind the attack. He refers to FireEye, "a computer security firm that first raised the alarm about the Russian campaign after its own systems were pierced." But later in the same piece, Sanger loses his certainty: "If the Russia connection is confirmed," he writes.

In the absence of firm evidence that damage has been done, this may well be an intrusion into other governments' networks routinely carried out by intelligence agencies around the world, including, if not chiefly, by the United States. It is what spies do. So neither the actor, nor the motive, nor the damage done is known for certain.

Yet across the vast networks of powerful U.S. media the story has been portrayed as a major crisis brought on by a sinister Russian attack putting the security of the American people at risk.

In a second piece on Wednesday, Sanger added to the alarm by saying the hack "ranks among the greatest intelligence failures of modern times." And on Friday Secretary of State Mike Pompeo claimed Russia was "pretty clearly" behind the cyber attacks. But he cautioned: " we're still unpacking precisely what it is, and I'm sure some of it will remain classified." In other words, trust us.

Ed Loomis, a former NSA technical director, believes the suspect list should extend beyond Russia to include China, Iran, and North Korea. Loomis also says the commercial cyber-security firms that have been studying the latest "attacks" have not been able to pinpoint the source.

Tom Bossert (Office of U.S. Executive)

In a New York Times op-ed , former Trump domestic security adviser Thomas Bossert on Wednesday called on Trump to "use whatever leverage he can muster to protect the United States and severely punish the Russians." And he said Biden "must begin his planning to take charge of this crisis."

[On Friday, Biden talked tough. He promised there would be "costs" and said: "A good defense isn't enough; we need to disrupt and deter our adversaries from undertaking significant cyberattacks in the first place. I will not stand idly by in the face of cyber-assaults on our nation."]

While asserting throughout his piece that, without question, Russia now "controls" U.S. government computer networks, Bossert's confidence suddenly evaporates by slipping in at one point, "If it is Russia."

The analysis the corporate press has relied on came from the private cyber-security firm FireEye. This question should be raised: Why has a private contractor at extra taxpayer expense carried out this cyber analysis rather than the already publicly-funded National Security Agency?

Similarly, why did the private firm CrowdStrike, rather than the FBI, analyze the Democratic National Committee servers in 2016?

Could it be to give government agencies plausible deniability if these analyses, as in the case of CrowdStrike, and very likely in this latest case of Russian "hacking," turn out to be wrong? This is a question someone on the intelligence committees should be asking.

Sanger is as active in blaming the Kremlin for hacking, as he and his erstwhile NYT colleague, neocon hero Judith Miller, were in insisting on the presence of (non-existent) weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, helping to facilitate a major invasion with mass loss of life.

The Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-MEDIA-Academia-Think-Tank complex (MICIMATT, for short) needs credible "enemies" to justify unprecedentedly huge expenditures for arms -- the more so at a time when it is clearer than ever, that that the money would be far better spent at home. (MEDIA is in all caps because it is the sine-qua-non , the cornerstone to making the MICIMATT enterprise work.)

Bad Flashback

In this latest media flurry, Sanger and other intel leakers' favorites are including as "flat fact" what "everybody knows": namely, that Russia hacked the infamous Hillary Clinton-damaging emails from the Democratic National Committee in 2016.

Sanger wrote:

" the same group of [Russian] hackers went on to invade the systems of the Democratic National Committee and top officials in Hillary Clinton's campaign, touching off investigations and fears that permeated both the 2016 and 2020 contests. Another, more disruptive Russian intelligence agency, the G.R.U., is believed to be responsible for then making public the hacked emails at the D.N.C."

That accusation was devised as a magnificent distraction after the Clinton campaign learned that WikiLeaks was about to publish emails that showed how Clinton and the DNC had stacked the deck against Bernie Sanders. It was an emergency solution, but it had uncommon success.

There was no denying the authenticity of those DNC emails published by WikiLeaks . So the Democrats mounted an artful campaign, very strongly supported by Establishment media, to divert attention from the content of the emails. How to do that? Blame Russian "hacking." And for good measure, persuade then Senator John McCain to call it an "act of war."

One experienced observer, Consortium News columnist Patrick Lawrence, saw through the Democratic blame-Russia offensive from the start.

Artful as the blame-Russia maneuver was, many voters apparently saw through this clever and widely successful diversion, learned enough about the emails' contents, and decided not to vote for Hillary Clinton.

4 Years & 7 Days Ago

Henry at the International Security Forum, Vancouver, 2009.
(Hubert K, Flickr)

On Dec. 12, 2016, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) used sensitive intelligence revealed by Edward Snowden, the expertise of former NSA technical directors, and basic principles of physics to show that accusations that Russia hacked those embarrassing DNC emails were fraudulent.

A year later, on Dec. 5, 2017, Shawn Henry, the head of CrowdStrike, the cyber firm hired by the DNC to do the forensics, testified under oath that there was no technical evidence that the emails had been "exfiltrated"; that is, hacked from the DNC.

His testimony was kept hidden by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff until Schiff was forced to release it on May 7, 2020. That testimony is still being kept under wraps by Establishment media.

What VIPS wrote four years ago is worth re-reading -- particularly for those who still believe in science and have trusted the experienced intelligence professionals of VIPS with the group's unblemished, no-axes-to-grind record.

Most of the Memorandum 's embedded links are to TOP SECRET charts that Snowden made available -- icing on the cake -- and, as far as VIPS's former NSA technical directors were concerned, precisely what was to be demonstrated QED .

Many Democrats unfortunately still believe–or profess to believe–the hacking and the Trump campaign-Russia conspiracy story, the former debunked by Henry's testimony and the latter by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Both were legally obligated to tell the truth, while the intelligence agencies were not.

Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He was a Russian specialist and presidential briefer during his 27 years as a CIA analyst. In retirement he co-created Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

Joe Lauria is editor-in-chief of Consortium News and a former UN correspondent for The Wall Street Journal, Boston Globe , and numerous other newspapers. He was an investigative reporter for the Sunday Times of London and began his professional career as a stringer for The New York Times. He can be reached at [email protected] and followed on Twitter @unjoe .

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robert e williamson jr , December 21, 2020 at 10:30

I listened as the mouth piece talked about how very good the Rouskies were at this hacking thing.

Takes me back to the days of Bill Hamilton when the U.S. government stole his PROMIS software during the INSLAW Octopus scandal something Bill Barr was said to be involved in BTW.

Seems the idea of secret back doors in software that allowed the users to be monitored was very popular. So popular in fact that our government reps from DOJ and NSA quickly allowed the Israelis to have it. ????????????? I mean our government still trusts Lyin' BeeBEE. ?????????????

If you know nothing of this story wiki it and then start you research on the history of what all happened and when.

The first two places to look for these hackers are inside the U.S. and Israeli governments. Maybe this is why the intelligence community is loath to give us any real proof, you know that computer forensics stuff.

The U.S. governments love affair with Israel is killing our democracy.

As for Putti, he is still be winning even when his shill Trump lost.

Ray, Joe great stuff and an expose' on what happens when lies go unchallenged and become accepted as truth.

Thanks CN you must make Robert very proud.

PEACE

DH Fabian , December 21, 2020 at 09:39

Maybe we could launch a fund-raising campaign to purchase some anti-malware software for the government's (obviously unsecured) computers. If possible, we could raise enough money to hire a teacher to instruct them on basic computer security. (Thrifty suggestion: Hire some local high school teens). Apparently, some kids in Russia made a hobby of hacking into the Pentagon, itself (I know this, because I just made it up), so on Monday, we need to launch this story on MSNBC, the official media of the New Democrat Party.

alice slater , December 21, 2020 at 09:12

You might want to remind people that Putin had made an offer to Obama in 2009 to negotiate a treaty to ban cyberwar, which the US rejected. See https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/world/28cyber.html , U.S. and Russia Differ on a Treaty for Cyberspace
Thanks for this important article! Alice Slater

zhu , December 21, 2020 at 06:38

Was there any "hack" at all?

DH Fabian , December 21, 2020 at 09:45

Hacking attempts are routine, daily, and nearly always business-related. Few succeed, but when they do, it can be quite lucrative (until they're tracked down and arrested). Beyond that, the US has maintained its lead in efforts to hack into security computers of foreign countries. Of course, governments throughout history have used whatever tools they had, to track other governments, usually for their own security against aggressor states.

Tina Weiser , December 20, 2020 at 21:28

When I first heard of this Russian hacking and the story about Trump cavorting w Russians, I intuitively knew it was wrong and made up. It sounded too simplistic. What I can't fathom is how the public swallowed it. I didn't and a few friends didn't, but most folks did.

Gerald , December 20, 2020 at 17:32

Maybe it was the Russians, sending a message to Uncle Joe and the Dems, quite brilliant actually. It says, 'we own you' 'we know everything about you' and 'we can destroy you should you want a war' The Dems and Washington generally have been living in their own child like bubble for way too long, they need waking up and showing how far behind they are, military, technically and of course something we've all known a long time, morally. No damage was done during the hack (oh they could have been lots of damage) nothing was taken, or maybe not much. It was a warning and a wake up call, that's all it needed to be. Now we proceed to the negotiating table for START and maybe the Russians know a whole lot more than the US wishes it did. Putins press conference was quite interesting last week, normally he is quite shy about upsetting his 'western partners' this year he pulled no punches. When asked if it was true that Russian could destroy America in 30 minutes he replied 'No, actually quicker' and when goaded by the idiot BBC reporter about the farcical MI6 Navalny escapade, he said 'If the security services wanted Navalny dead he already would be'. Times are a changing. Things are warming up a little and the US are on the ropes in all spheres.

DH Fabian , December 21, 2020 at 09:50

No. I think most Americans today would be "outraged" to know how little interest Russia has in today's US. They had turned to the East years ago. The "dirty little secret" is that as the Western (US/UK) empire has been sinking for some years, most of the world has turned its attention Eastward (China, now Russia), as the light guiding the international community into the future.

JOHN CHUCKMAN , December 20, 2020 at 11:33

Yes, and it seems, if anything, a large-scale effort to collect information, not to damage anything.

Collecting information about others is what America's NSA, CIA, FBI, and other massive agencies do around the clock. Ditto, Britain's GCHQ and MI6.

The word "attack" only puts an unduly harsh name to the matter. I think it fair to say it is in keeping with America's now-always aggressive tone towards Russia, China, Iran, and others.

And still, we have no information at all about who is responsible with Trump claiming China and Pompeo claiming Russia, while neither of them has any information to support what he is saying. Israel is just as likely as any other candidate to be responsible for this. The US intelligence community recognizes Israel in private as extremely aggressive at collecting information.

Its name of course does not come up in our sanitized press, and if it proves true that it is responsible, we'll never see it reported.

Meanwhile, just as in the case of Skripal or Navalny, great fun can be had with Russia.

Realist , December 20, 2020 at 05:01

If any of Washington's designated enemies are NOT attempting to constantly monitor the byzantine genuine operative policies of America's Deep State they are being totally remiss. If all they had to go on were the strident public policies expressed and enacted by our leaders they would surely feel existentially threatened and compelled to launch defensive military actions just to preserve the continuity of their civilisations. Washington's endless effluvia of formal pronouncements, accusations, economic sanctions and provocative troop deployments fairly beg for the occasional miscalculation of a bellicose parry or counterpunch. Our chosen enemies need to know our real intentions and capabilities to PRECLUDE such eventualities. Moreover, the geeks in our cadre of spooks have been at the same game for the same reasons rather longer than theirs. It's probably safe to say we invented the game.

By way of example, Joe Biden constantly talks of making Russia "pay a price" for some list of imaginary offenses against American "interests," of which Special Prosecutor Mueller could not conjure up one example after nearly three years of investigation. If anyone "hacked the vote" last month, it was sure not the Russians who made Sleepy Joe the most popular president with the highest vote total ever elected. Talk about the implausible transformed into the new reality. Take another example, Mike Morell, probably the incoming head of the CIA, has on multiple occasions spoke of the need to "make Russians bleed" for attempting to limit the death and chaos inflicted upon Syria by American foreign policy and its cultivated mercenaries going by a different nom de guerre each week. JC did tell us that strange changes will happen in the vineyard, apparently even al Qaeda can reconcile with Uncle Sam. In the absence of detailed reliable information regarding the veracity of such narratives, President Putin (or Xi, or Rouhani) might feel constrained to be less tolerant, more aggressive and quicker to react against what can only be described as mostly baseless and far too numerous hostile American provocations. The bully struts around with a chip the size of a redwood on his shoulder. No one antagonizes him, they mostly try to give the crazy fellow a wide berth while keeping a vigilant eye on him. What's truly unfortunate is that Stephan F. Cohen is no longer on this Earth to keep the American public apprised of such truths, not that this world's most informed man on these subjects got any recent media exposure in the present climate of unhinged Russophrenia.

Tom Partridge , December 20, 2020 at 03:55

We know that governments and intelligence agencies tell us lies all the time. Lies that have justified the instigation of wars and lies that have precipitated wars by default. All of this is well documented in the written word and yet we continue to be fooled by the self same lies. Shame on us, but when the Doomsday Clock strikes midnight, it will be too late, there will be no one left to document the lies, there will be no more lies, instead there will be, just silence.

Eileen Coles , December 20, 2020 at 00:01

Wasn't Fireeye the company that faced extremes of ridicule from the global IT community for trying to engage Hillary Clinton as their keynote speaker at a Cyber Defense Summit in 2019?

michael888 , December 19, 2020 at 23:20

While I appreciate your article and agree with your conclusions, you are a voice crying in the wilderness or at least in a small bubble of like-minded people.
There is a part of the brain which is based on evidence-free, faith-based beliefs, and while religious impulses can be good (sometimes debatable), there is also a strong fear and hatred of the Other, and Russia has been elevated by Hillary, the DNC, the Intelligence Agencies, and the Establishment as the only acceptable Bogeyman. It is socially unacceptable to attack Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Mexicans, or Chinese (remember "Hug a Chinaman!" at the critical juncture where Covid-19 could have been stopped by shutting borders in mid-January as Asian countries did?), but the RUSSIANS!! are an acceptable target of vitriol (even though the Clintons and any of our other politicians will quickly take $500,000 from Putin as the Clintons did when Hillary was Secretary of State in 2010). Calling someone a Russian asset, as our CIA has done repeatedly, can destroy people's careers, and minimally untrack their criticisms.

Software generally has intentional backdoors (Ghislaine Maxwell's father made a career of selling such software so Israel could monitor their customers). We don't get much software from Russia! China is economically and politically a bigger threat, though like Israel probably monitoring rather than interfering through their software (which is probably the rule for all Intelligence Agencies). However 12 year olds can probably get into these same program backdoors, hacking is a hobby for many.
The use of non-government companies to do to questionable work is akin to big corporations bringing in consultants; scapegoats when things go wrong!

GMCasey , December 19, 2020 at 22:44

It's very difficult to believe a lot of what passes for news in America. For example, I always thought that if the hacking of Hillary ever happened, it was because when she was SOS, she refused to go into a secure room to make important calls. Instead , she stood in the hallway, but didn't want to go into the secure room. Add to that, the use of a personal computer at her home, keeping all kinds of her government information on it , which was also being sent to her associate's husband's computer.

I also wondered why the Russians were blamed for poisoning spies in the UK -- - spies traded a decade before -- especially since exchanged spies lived near where the UK's poison center was. This was supposed to be an attempt to poison 2 Russians, and this latest Russia news story seems just as silly. I am sure that any decent spy from any nation who decided to poison a person -- than it would be done.

I am wondering why America seems to be living back in the 1950s when that McCarthy person was making havoc with creating so many
untruths in major media -- it's sad that myself, and many others no longer believe a lot of the major media news -- and that is a sad state for a in a said- to- be democratic republic

Em Sos , December 19, 2020 at 21:39

Re: "A Pandemic of 'Russian Hacking'"

Isn't this, just perhaps, precisely the fake news construct, planted in the minds of Americans, by Trump, to which he may now turn, as his last-ditch pretext, to protect the National Security interests of the State; by attempting to declare Martial Law, at the last moment, just prior to January 20th 2021?

Eddie S , December 19, 2020 at 18:43

Good article! Especially the mentioning of the VERY 'convenient' timing of the latest 'Red Scare', vis-a-vis the upcoming transition to a new POTUS who has made vague references to modest moves towards cooling down the Cold War II (which I have little-faith will happen anyway, given the Biden cabinet picks). Also the excellent point about these reports apparently coming from private organizations as opposed to the massive US intelligence agencies (ie; the 17 agencies in the USG doing intelligence work, with the CIA & NSA being two of the largest) -- WTF are we funding them with multi-billion dollar budgets for so that they can quote some private start-up intel-groups??

As alluded to in the article, no-doubt part of the reason is because of the black-eye the intel agencies got (at least outside of The Beltway) in the 2003 Iraq WMDs debacle, which caused a lot of us (at least on the left-end of the political spectrum, who were already highly skeptical of US 'intelligence') to virtually completely disregard them as credible sources for anything other than a right-wing indicator.

All the major powers spy on each other, and some of the minor ones too, and sometimes it's on putative allies (ie; recall the controversy a number of years ago when Israel was caught spying/bugging US transmissions I don't recall any bluster about THAT being 'an act of war!'). And I not-too-long-ago read how there are constant, daily attempts by numerous entities (most suspected to be private scammers) attempt to hack computers & networks of ALL users (government, business, NGO's, private parties) -- it's ongoing 'background noise'.

And while we should all be strengthening our computer defenses against these intrusions, let's be very skeptical when someone pulls 'something' (reputedly) out of that background noise and hysterically proclaims it to be so MAJOR EVENT.

Theo , December 20, 2020 at 09:21

I agree. There was an interesting article on the Theamericanconservative.com under the title " The Russian Cyber Pearl Harbor that wasn't ". Some time ago in Germany the computers of big insurance companies were hacked and huge amounts of personal data of the clients were stolen. Big issue in Germany. Russia was the top suspect. It turned out that the bad guy was a teenage German school boy living peacefully with his parents. He was found very quickly because he didn't cover up his trails in the web. He didn't do it for money or political reasons. He did it just for fun and to proof to himself: Yes I can. Now he faces a prison term.

Eric Arnow , December 19, 2020 at 16:30

The real story here is not the latest eye roller, here-we-go-again, episode of Russo phobia, but the likelihood that majority of the Washington Consensus, and more likely, the American people will be stupid enough or crazy enough or both, to believe this.

David , December 21, 2020 at 10:12

Not only will Americans be "stupid and or crazy enough" to believe this nonsense, but they will also attack anyone who questions their belief as a Putin apologist or conspiracy theorist. I'm deeply appreciative of Ray's and Joe's insights but Michael888 is right. His voice is a "cry in the wilderness" which is "heard only by a small bubble of like minded people." I admire his perseverance in the face of that harsh reality. Thank you, Ray and Joe.

Robert Emmett , December 19, 2020 at 16:19

Always with the same mouthpieces, the same backdated investigations, the unnamed "official" sources. Phooey!

Maybe while the propaganda is being propagated & then catapulted into the public realm, nobody in "official" media remembers to check vault 7 for the inevitable Cyrillic fingerprints until it's too late? Oops!

And "artful maneuver"? Yeah, maybe if you mean kindergarten art. Or perhaps it's a forgery that depends on millions of uncritical viewers' unquestioning acceptance of a fake rationale for unbinding Biden so he can veer from a direction that he never intended to follow in the first place?

Jonny James , December 19, 2020 at 12:01

We are thankful that CN continues the tradition of Robert Parry to debunk the New Cold War propaganda. The Russia Hysteria (New Red Scare without "the Reds") is a pathetic and transparent attempt to manipulate public opinion.

The naked fear-mongering has become the stuff of jokes. I had a good laugh with my friends (over the phone) taking apart an article in the Guardian that claimed that Putin had surrounded himself with KGB agents. The article didn't mention that the KGB (and the USSR) have not existed in over a quarter century. Foreign policy narratives are great for laughs, ridicule, and satire. Too bad most so-called journalists are too ignorant or intellectually dishonest to come clean.

Russia did not want to end the ABM treaty, the INF treaty etc. etc. but of course it was the US who shredded all the treaties. The US has engaged in massive illegal activity with impunity: fomenting coups, meddling heavily in the affairs of other nations, war crimes etc. The US appears now to be a desperate rogue empire, pathetically clutching at notions of Full Spectrum Dominance. No informed person should believe this latest Russia narrative – it is ridiculous on multiple levels, just as Mr. Lauria and McGovern have outlined.

To underline the utter silliness of the narrative: my handle has become "Jonski Jamesovich" (a common Russian name lol) and I introduce myself as a Russian Agent. I know it's puerile and silly but that's the level of discourse we are dealing with. This intelligence-insulting BS has grown tiresome already. My British friends and I "take the piss" (ridicule) the narratives: the comedy material is written for us!

Realist , December 20, 2020 at 05:53

Jonny, I think your Russian name would be Ivan. Jamesovich if your father's name is James. Your piece is brilliant.

A great characterisation of America for what it has become during my life of 73 years: an outlaw state. What Reagan used to call an "evil empire," by which he meant the Soviet Union. I'm sure he thought that he and Gorbachev had achieved a lasting peace between Russia and the US. They came within an eyelash of eliminating all nukes.

The so-called "realists" in the deep state would not allow that, but did leave several nuclear nonproliferation treaties in place, which our foolish contemporaries have trashed. Would he be shocked if he could be reanimated! The first step to putting things right again would be for Europe to stop enabling Washington's warmongering in every corner of the world and to disband NATO, the biggest threat to world peace after the US federal government.

[Dec 21, 2020] To Blame Russia For Cyber-Intrusions Is Delusional

Dec 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Simon , Dec 20 2020 11:33 utc | 55

Relentlessly, you go to stories in the New York Times. Like a dog returning to its excrement. Everybody knows it's an intelligence shill. Why do you bother? There are far more important things you could be reporting on.

[Dec 21, 2020] To Blame Russia For Cyber-Intrusions Is Delusional - A Treaty Is The Only Way To Prevent More Damage

Notable quotes:
"... In the issue of information security generally, including cyber-security and cyber-defence, it seems that there is one rule for the US and another for everyone else ..."
"... The US knows only one thing, and that is psychopathic schoolyard bullying. To have to work together with other nations, to have to accept other nations' rights to information and security, to recognise the need for compromise and continuous negotiation: all this is beyond the US ability to understand. ..."
"... Treaties would help no doubt but the only real solution is to not put things you want kept private on the internet. The internet is to publish stuff, not to store stuff securely. ..."
"... usa is not agreement capable.. they prove this time and time again, so any proposals of an agreement in any area is not realistic.. it is unfortunate.. ..."
"... the media will continue to be the service provider for the intel agencies and say whatever they want to say.. facts are irrelevant.. it is beyond naive to think that anything that gets said in the usa msm ( russia did it and etc. etc. ) have any relevance or value... ..."
"... the Wikileaks Vault 7 materials show clearly the US has tools to pin cybercrime on its 'enemies'. One thing we know for sure and that is the US government has one enemy above all others: the truth. ..."
"... The most obvious scenario is hiding in plain sight: FireEye is an corporation selling a defective, inferior product to the USG. To cut corners, it must employ a legion of non-unionized private contractors, who are a workforce of inferior quality and much lower morale (as they receive much lower salaries). In order to cut even more corners, most of these private contractors must receive a light version of clearance process, and must be more loosely managed. ..."
"... The USA is plagued with private contractors. They were the weapon of choice of the American capitalists and the USG to kill the unions and lower the value of the American labor power. When a random American tells you he/she works for, e.g. Microsoft, chances are he/she actually works for a private contractor who works for Microsoft - it's a process I like to call "domestic outsourcing": a process where, through political and structural reforms, the capitalist class of a given nation precarizes its own national labor power without literally exporting it to another country (e.g. telemarketing to India). ..."
"... enemy #1 of humanity are the global private finance elite, not Russia , nor China. ..."
"... I know quite a bit about those outages in Venezuela. I assure you that they were very well-planned. The people who did it were Venezuelan exiles in Canada and Houston, Texas (a lot of the opposition moved to Houston in addition to Miami). ..."
"... Is any evidence offered that there was any hack at all? Is the entire thing a fully fabricated false flag, yet another, in service of taking Nord Stream 2 down? ..."
"... Also note that the providers of the software are entirely responsible for making it easy to hack. As a software engineer, I have tried in vain for decades to convince companies producing critical infrastructure equipment to not use internet administration links, because they are not only hackable, but the encryption codes all have backdoors for "security" agencies. ..."
"... So no doubt SolarWinds did just that, got hacked by anybody anywhere, and is looking for an excuse to avoid losing their contract. ..."
"... The Germans and the Americans decided that it was worth to risk the entire German SCADA business to sting Iran and later Venezuela. Because that was what those attacks, in the absence of Iranian or Venezuelan capitulation meant, harm to German bussiness for no strategic gains. ..."
"... Ultimately, making a single software product secure will only achieve limited gains: Those gains evaporate in an instant one some junior cablemonkey plugs a secure server into the public DMZ using the wrong network interface. ..."
"... Where was the firewall admin in all this? Where was the Network administrator with his routing policies? ..."
"... Why, when SolarWinds has been a gaping security hole for more than 2 decades is it now all of a sudden the gateway for a massive attack from a foreign power? Shouldn't it have been a continuous vulnerability all along? By now, every vulnerable internet facing SW installation would have been wiped out ages ago due to the frequency of automated attacks carried out against infrastructure in general. ..."
"... We all know Micro$oft, Google, FB, Whatsapp, Instagram, ... are feeding US and Zionist intelligence agencies with all type of informations. Any international treaty on cyber-security would under this conditions be obsolete from the beginning. ..."
"... But it's just naive to think that CIA, NSA, Mossad are going to respect any international agreement in any area. Stuxnet virus and it's intrusion of the Iranian nuclear facilities or sabotage of Venezuelan power-grid facilities were not made by China, Russia or North Korea. ..."
"... These large, complicated, very expensive software "management" packages are largely butt-covering, to protect management from the threat of "doing nothing" when things go wrong. Some nice kickbacks in it too. ..."
"... I remember one "configuration management" package that was practically an operating system all by itself and absolutely a waste of time. Network management even more so. ..."
"... I haven't seen this level of propaganda since the buildup to the second Iraq war. They are obviously planning more aggression against Russia and have to keep the public at a fever pitch to get away with it. ..."
Dec 19, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

December 19, 2020 To Blame Russia For Cyber-Intrusions Is Delusional - A Treaty Is The Only Way To Prevent More Damage

The New York Times continues to provide anti-Russian propaganda and to incite against it:

Pompeo Says Russia Was Behind Cyberattack on U.S.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is the first member of the Trump administration to publicly link the Kremlin to the hacking of dozens of government and private systems.

The first paragraph:

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Friday it was clear that Russia was behind the widespread hacking of government systems that officials this week called "a grave risk" to the United States.

That is a quite definite statement.

But it is very wrong. Pompous did not say "that it was clear that Russia was behind" the IT intrusions.

The third paragraph in the NYT story, which casual readers will miss, quotes Pompous and there he does not say what the Times opener claims:

"I think it's the case that now we can say pretty clearly that it was the Russians that engaged in this activity," Mr. Pompeo said in an interview on "The Mark Levin Show."

Merriam Webster 's definition of 'pretty' as an adverb is "in some degree : moderately". The example it gives is "pretty cold weather". The temperature of pretty cold weather on a July day in Cairo obviously differs from the temperature of pretty cold weather during a December night in Siberia. "Pretty xxx" It is a relative expression, not an assertion of absolute facts.

The first paragraph of the Times statement tries to sell a vague statement as an factual claim.

Moreover - Pompous finds it amusing that the CIA lies, steals and cheats (vid). As a former CIA director he has not refrained from those habits. Whenever Pompous says something about a perceived U.S. 'enemy' it safe to assume that it he does not state the truth.

On top of that even his boss does not agree with his claim:

Contradicting his secretary of state and other top officials, President Donald Trump on Saturday suggested without evidence that China -- not Russia -- may be behind the cyberattack against the United States and tried to minimized its impact.

Trump AND Pompous both made their contradicting assertions "without evidence".

It is inappropriate for the media to accuse Russia - or China - of the recently discovered cyber-intrusion when there is zero evidence to support such a claim.

The Times did that at least twice without having any evidence to support the claim:

It also published a rather aggressive and stupid op-ed by Thomas A. Bossert, Trump's former cyber-security adviser:

The Russians have had access to a considerable number of important and sensitive networks for six to nine months. The Russian S.V.R. will surely have used its access to further exploit and gain administrative control over the networks it considered priority targets.
...
While all indicators point to the Russian government, the United States, and ideally its allies, must publicly and formally attribute responsibility for these hacks. If it is Russia, President Trump must make it clear to Vladimir Putin that these actions are unacceptable. The U.S. military and intelligence community must be placed on increased alert; all elements of national power must be placed on the table.

Where are the carriers? Man the guns! Put the nukes to Def Con 1!

Rep. Jason Crow @RepJasonCrow - 15:09 UTC · Dec 18, 2020

The situation is developing, but the more I learn this could be our modern day, cyber equivalent of Pearl Harbor.

This is lunatic. From all we know so far the so called 'hack' was a quite nifty cyber-intrusion for the sole purpose of gathering information. The intrusion has, as far as we know, not even reached any systems on the specially protected 'secret' networks. This was a normal spying operation, not an attack. To compare it to a deadly military attack like Pearl Harbor is self-delusional nonsense :

The lack of self-awareness in these and similar reactions to the Russia breach is astounding. The U.S. government has no principled basis to complain about the Russia hack, much less retaliate for it with military means, since the U.S. government hacks foreign government networks on a huge scale every day. Indeed, a military response to the Russian hack would violate international law. The United States does have options, but none are terribly attractive.

The news reports have emphasized that the Russian operation thus far appears to be purely one of espionage -- entering systems quietly, lurking around, and exfiltrating information of interest. Peacetime government-to-government espionage is as old as the international system and is today widely practiced, especially via electronic surveillance. It can cause enormous damage to national security, as the Russian hack surely does. But it does not violate international law or norms.
...
Because of its own practices, the U.S. government has traditionally accepted the legitimacy of foreign governmental electronic spying in U.S. government networks. After the notorious Chinese hack of the Office of Personnel Management database, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said: "You have to kind of salute the Chinese for what they did. If we had the opportunity to do that, I don't think we'd hesitate for a minute."

One can not spy on other countries and then complain when they do something similar to oneself. Responding by waging destruction against another country's IT systems only guarantees that there will be a response in kind. If one wants to avert cyber-espionage and cyber-attacks there is only one way out.

We do not know if Israel, China, Russia or someone else is responsible for the recently discovered intrusion. But it is safe to assume that Russia's SVR is working on comparable projects just like the spy services of most other countries do.

But Russia has, in contrast to others, for years asked for bi-lateral treaties to prohibit malicious cyber operations. In September President Putin again offered one :

One of today's major strategic challenges is the risk of a large-scale confrontation in the digital field. A special responsibility for its prevention lies on the key players in the field of ensuring international information security (IIS). In this regard, we would like to once again address the US with a suggestion to agree on a comprehensive program of practical measures to reboot our relations in the field of security in the use of information and communication technologies (ICTs).
...
Third. To jointly develop and conclude a bilateral intergovernmental agreement on preventing incidents in the information space similarly to the Soviet-American Agreement on the Prevention of Incidents On and Over the High Seas in force since 25 May 1972.
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We call on the US to greenlight the Russian-American professional expert dialogue on IIS without making it a hostage to our political disagreements.

Even conservative U.S. lawyers agree with Putin that such a treaty is the only way to protect the U.S. from potentially damaging operations:

Despite many tens of billions of dollars spent on cyber defense and deterrence and Defend Forward prevention, and despite one new strategy after another, the United States has failed miserably for decades in protecting its public and private digital networks. What it apparently has not done is to ask itself, in a serious way, how its aggressive digital practices abroad invite and justify digital attacks and infiltrations by our adversaries, and whether those practices are worth the costs. Relatedly, it has not seriously considered the traditional third option when defense and deterrence fail in the face of a foreign threat: mutual restraint , whereby the United States agrees to curb certain activities in foreign networks in exchange for forbearance by our adversaries in our networks. There are many serious hurdles to making such cooperation work, including precise agreement on each side's restraint, and verification. But given our deep digital dependency and the persistent failure of defense and deterrence to protect our digital systems, cooperation is at least worth exploring.

Dreams of being able to prevent intrusions on one's systems while insisting on intruding the opponent's systems are just that - dreams. There is likewise no reasonable way to deter an adversary from using such methods to gain an advantage.

To blame, without evidence, Russia for a 'hack' and to incite against it will not solve the above problems.

The only way to prevent potentially dangerous cyber-operations is too agree with adversaries on what is off-limits and to (verifiably) stick to that.

Posted by b on December 19, 2020 at 19:29 UTC | Permalink


Jen , Dec 19 2020 19:53 utc | 2
In the issue of information security generally, including cyber-security and cyber-defence, it seems that there is one rule for the US and another for everyone else: free and unfettered access to everyone's secrets for the US; and for everyone else, having to pay through the nose for anything the US deigns to dole out in amounts and at times of its own choosing.

The US knows only one thing, and that is psychopathic schoolyard bullying. To have to work together with other nations, to have to accept other nations' rights to information and security, to recognise the need for compromise and continuous negotiation: all this is beyond the US ability to understand.

Mao Cheng Ji , Dec 19 2020 20:06 utc | 3
Good post, but about this hypothetical treaty: how would you monitor and enforce that sort of thing? It seems to me the signatories are likely to continue doing it, and, assuming enough sophistication, proving a breach of the agreement seems virtually impossible...
dave , Dec 19 2020 20:40 utc | 4
Mao Cheng Ji: "virtually impossible" Good one :)

When I first read this story, I thought of the power outages in Venezuela the past year. Those attacks must have hit especially patients in hospitals or care residences that had no stand by generation.

I think Iran has been attacked a few times in this manner.

I can see the usefulness of treaty talks to address this issue. Talks between just two states, though, would leave a lot of would be targets, so United Nations might address the issue. If the Security Council, & United Nations generally, is supposed to mitigate violence of warfare, addressing cyber attacks must come under UNO purview.

I wonder if Lavrov, or a counterpart in another land, would find it useful to approach the United Nations on this.

karlof1 , Dec 19 2020 20:45 utc | 5
Mao Cheng JI @3--

Putin and Lavrov have pleaded for at least 5 years now going back to Obama/Biden about the need to negotiate a Cyber Treaty, and that it include as many nations as want to participate. But only silence is returned. It's entirely possible that this so-called series of hacks is no more than back-splash from some NSA or CIA hacking exercise. It certainly puts more wind in the sails for today's excursion back to the future by Pepe Escobar that's not behind a paywall. I will say there was one quote from it that stood out very far from the rest and is on the way to becoming reality. As the Outlaw US Empire falls further behind its competitors:

"the US will be able to bill itself as the first great post-industrial agrarian society."

I'm not so sure about the "great" part given our actual condition and direction.

Bemildred , Dec 19 2020 20:45 utc | 6
Treaties would help no doubt but the only real solution is to not put things you want kept private on the internet. The internet is to publish stuff, not to store stuff securely.
kooshy , Dec 19 2020 20:46 utc | 7
"The only way to prevent potentially dangerous cyber-operations is too agree with adversaries on what is off-limits and to (verifiably) stick to that."

Really? b with all due respect was, is, will be America ever capable or can it ever be trusted to hold to any a Treaty/ Agreement, this outlaw rogue regime in time of hypersonic missiles still believes she is protected by two oceans. Signing a treaty with this regime is a distasteful joke, not worth entertaining.

Canadian Cents , Dec 19 2020 20:48 utc | 8
Mao @3, had the same thought. Like the idea but how feasible is it?

I'd also like to see a Geneva Convention for the digital space (perhaps an expansion or update of the existing Geneva Conventions for the digital age.) So civilian cyber infrastructure (personal PCs, smartphones, tablets, routers, etc.) and civilian cyber content (social media, online dating profiles, forum posts, etc.) would be off-limits for state signatories. Again, not sure how feasible this is, but would like to see this.

Hoyeru , Dec 19 2020 20:51 utc | 9
I dont understand why people still waste their time writing article refuting USA's claims. Dont people understand already USA DOES NOT NEED NO STINKING EVIDENCE?

...back int he dark ages of in 1990 USA invented the story about Iraqi solders taking babies out of incubators and leaving them to die on the cold floor and sued that lie to attack Iraq

in 2001, USA immediately blamed Osam abin ALladin for the 9-11 attacks and used that like to attack and occupy Afghanistan.

in 2003, USA said Saddam has weapons of mass distraction and used that lie to attack Iraq for a 2nd time.

USA ALWAYS lies and uses that to do something.

Russia better prepare itself by buying a lot of lube and lube its collective asshole. It will get an ass fucking of a life time. and Russia deserves it by allowing Putin to act as a moronic wimp.

james , Dec 19 2020 21:03 utc | 10
thanks b... a few points...

usa is not agreement capable.. they prove this time and time again, so any proposals of an agreement in any area is not realistic.. it is unfortunate..

the media will continue to be the service provider for the intel agencies and say whatever they want to say.. facts are irrelevant.. it is beyond naive to think that anything that gets said in the usa msm ( russia did it and etc. etc. ) have any relevance or value...

it is the exact opposite.. expect more delusional ranting from these same wingnuts..the usa lost any integrity it had a long time ago.. getting it back is not going to happen quickly, or at all.. in fact, it is more likely the usa has to continue in its MAX 737 nosedive on all levels until they wake up and smell the coffee... until then - all bets are off for any light going off in the brains of usa leadership."

@ 4 dave... indeed.. the cardinal rule - 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you' is applicable here... for all the religious preaching from buffoons like pompous, the words and actions don't match the reality on the ground.. thanks for a clear reminder... it will be a long time before the usa gets its head out of its ass..

c1ue , Dec 19 2020 21:21 utc | 12
Sorry, folks, but as a practitioner in the field - the problem is systemic, not national or even international. Information Technology is a bloated mess. Banks, airports, utilities use software whose programmers are literally dying of old age and which literally have not been made for a generation.

Security is a laugh. You need $10M, ante, to have a moderately capable security program between expertise and tools - which means 90% of the companies will never be able to afford it.

Even among the 10% - the lack of even the most basic best practices mean that billion dollar companies constantly get tripped up or knocked flat by extremely simplistic attacks or accidents.

This is the real world of cyberspace: attackers are limited only by how much focus they want to put on any particular target.

The "attack" which brought about this latest session of Russo/Sino phobia - as b researched and documented well - did not employ any sophistication to gain entry. The subsequent activity was more sophisticated but even then, nothing more complex that $20K paid to a moderately capable programmer couldn't create.

gottlieb , Dec 19 2020 21:25 utc | 13
Cold War 2.0 to keep US enemies front and center is so the MIC can keep sucking the people dry. Additionally, the Wikileaks Vault 7 materials show clearly the US has tools to pin cybercrime on its 'enemies'. One thing we know for sure and that is the US government has one enemy above all others: the truth.
karlof1 , Dec 19 2020 21:29 utc | 14
gottlieb @13--

One thing we know for sure and that is the US government has one enemy above all others: the truth.

I hope you don't mind if I borrow your outstanding line of reason!!

vk , Dec 19 2020 21:31 utc | 15
Contradicting his secretary of state and other top officials, President Donald Trump on Saturday suggested without evidence that China -- not Russia -- may be behind the cyberattack against the United States and tried to minimized its impact.

Called it. FireEye purposefully chose the term "nation with top-tier offensive capabilities" so that they could please Greek and Trojans while at the same time exempting itself from delivering a defective commodity. Trump, for obvious reasons, chose to blame China; the establishment, for obvious reasons, chose to blame Russia. Trumpists will choose to blame China; Democrats and centrist Republicans will choose to blame Russia.

China or Russia - you can build your own narrative now!

The most obvious scenario is hiding in plain sight: FireEye is an corporation selling a defective, inferior product to the USG. To cut corners, it must employ a legion of non-unionized private contractors, who are a workforce of inferior quality and much lower morale (as they receive much lower salaries). In order to cut even more corners, most of these private contractors must receive a light version of clearance process, and must be more loosely managed.

Indeed, most of these smaller managers must also be private contractors themselves; maybe showing up one or two times per week in the workplace just to see if the private contractors workers are there and breathing. The whole thing must be a shitshow.

One of these private contractors probably sold the passwords or created a password which could be easily brute forced; or simply committed a rookie mistake (leaked e-mail, written password in the office's whiteboard, etc. etc.).

The USA is plagued with private contractors. They were the weapon of choice of the American capitalists and the USG to kill the unions and lower the value of the American labor power. When a random American tells you he/she works for, e.g. Microsoft, chances are he/she actually works for a private contractor who works for Microsoft - it's a process I like to call "domestic outsourcing": a process where, through political and structural reforms, the capitalist class of a given nation precarizes its own national labor power without literally exporting it to another country (e.g. telemarketing to India).

Mark Thomason , Dec 19 2020 21:34 utc | 16
A treaty would stop the US doing this to others. The US originated this. The US has every intention of doing this to many others. Those who complain the loudest are exactly the ones who have no intention of stopping.
Patroklos , Dec 19 2020 22:02 utc | 18
Aren't other things happening in the world more interesting than the soporific narcissism of what passes for 'politics' in the US?
uncle tungsten , Dec 19 2020 22:04 utc | 19
The USAi has been fleeced by an IT industry that is incapable of rendering a secure system! Well blow me down. What don't system buyers get from the words 'shonky thieves'. The USAi and its cosy bear partner UKi have perfected 'shonky thieves' as an industrial and financial strategy so dont be surprised when the thieves pick their pocket FROM WITHIN. It is the share sell off that is the clue - follow the money NOT the tabloids.

So far they have Russia being the most powerful IT centre on earth and the most hopeless CBW centre on earth. With IT they go everywhere yet with CBW they can't kill a fly.

uncle tungsten , Dec 19 2020 22:12 utc | 21
Patroklos #18

Other things and explore this site for a while. and another thing

psychohistorian , Dec 19 2020 22:19 utc | 22
@ Yahoodi | Dec 19 2020 22:12 utc | 20 who wrote

Why so much talk about Russia? China is enemy #1.

b doesn't like one liners much so he can delete my response as well to inform you that enemy #1 of humanity are the global private finance elite, not Russia , nor China.

norecovery , Dec 19 2020 22:20 utc | 23
Re: cybercriminal or rogue state tampering with power generation / power grids -- Why couldn't these computer systems be independent, isolated from the Internet and kept in high security lockdown? Besides, they operated just fine without computers in the past, when things were built to last.

These days, I wouldn't buy a new car that depends on sophisticated computer controls and diagnostic tools, let alone exclusive dealer service. Farmers lost their right to buy parts and service their own tractors independent of a dealer. How much would I bet the Chinese manufacturers will eventually take over that market ...as with almost every other market for durable goods short of proprietary military hardware? Unless of course, the Banksters prevent it for reasons of "national security."

uncle tungsten , Dec 19 2020 22:27 utc | 24
psychohistorian #22

Are you referring to these people as enemy #1 of humanity?

uncle tungsten , Dec 19 2020 22:34 utc | 25
Patroklas #18

First the world needs a treaty to dismantle this threat as it consumes millions in IT support and only delivers death.

Mark2 , Dec 19 2020 22:45 utc | 26
For years American governments have extracted profit from the US tax paying public, using the simple trick of giving them a series of imaginary external enemy's. Requiring ever more arms industry funding extra. Profit from paranoia !!

But here's the thing -- America has now backed itself into a corner re geopolitics. It would not surprise me if these cyberattacks are a joint effort by several nations. We could predict them. Just cause ya paranoid don't mean there not all out to get you.

Robert Lindsay , Dec 19 2020 23:47 utc | 27
@dave

I know quite a bit about those outages in Venezuela. I assure you that they were very well-planned. The people who did it were Venezuelan exiles in Canada and Houston, Texas (a lot of the opposition moved to Houston in addition to Miami). The opposition is very, very good and they sit up there in the US plotting schemes to destroy the economy. For instance, for a long time the fake exchange rate was being set by an opposition person in Houston who ran his own exchange rate site. He always deliberately inflated the street exchange rate in order to cause a currency crisis, which would devastate the economy. A lot of things caused that exchange rate crisis, but that guy sitting in Houston sabotaging the exchange rates to cause a monetary crisis was no small part of that.

The attacks were staged out of Canada and Houston. The people who did it had very intimate knowledge of those systems, mostly because those systems were using software made in Canada. The people in Canada had access to the source code of that software. Perhaps the company itself was in on the sabotage in the same way that the voting machine companies are in on rigging the voting machines to steal elections for Republicans. In that case, Rebuplican operatives have taken over the voting machine companies and the election hacking is done by those companies like E S & S themselves in coordination with people like Karl Rove and the Bush and Romney families. All of those computer machine companies are owned by the Bush and Romney families and Karl Rove also has a huge stake in them.

So it's quite possible that that Canadian software vendor was taken over by Venezuelan opposition people to gain access to the source code so they could hack those systems. With knowledge of that code, they hacked the systems from Canada and Houston. They were very good, excellent hackers. It's not known if they had state help from the US and Canadian governments, although I definitely would not rule it out.

Trudeau in particular has gone full fascist in his fanatical support for the Venezuelan opposition fascists.

Robert Lindsay , Dec 19 2020 23:52 utc | 28
The Venezuelan elite are classic Latin American elite fascists, a somewhat distinct type. Most of the elite down there has this "Latin American fascist" orientation.

It's generally not race-based, but the ruling elite tends to be lighter-skinned than the darker masses, even in Haiti. Instead, it's more like the "rightwing authoritarianism" or "rightwing dictatorships" that we saw so many of in the Cold War in Latin America and elsewhere.

These regimes were found most of Central America in Guatemala after 1954 and El Salvador and Honduras since forever, Nicaragua under the Somozas.

They were found in all of South America at one time or another. We can see them in the generals after 1964 in Brazil, the democratic facade duopoly regimes in Venezuela in Colombia (especially after 1947 and again in 1964, Ecuador, Peru until the generals' revolt in 1968, Bolivia under Banzer after 1953, Paraguay under Strausser, Argentina and Uruguay under the generals in the late 80's and early 90's, and Pinochet in Chile.

They were also seen in the Caribbean in Cuba under Bautista, the Dominican Republic under Trujillo, and Haiti under the Duvaliers.

In Southeast Asia, they were found in Thieu in South Vietnam, Sihanouk in Cambodia, the monarchy in Laos, the military regimes in Thailand, Suharto in Indonesia, the Sultan in Brunei, Marcos in the Philippines, and Taiwan under Chiang Kai Chek.

In Northeast Asia, a regime of this type was found in South Korea from 1947-on.

They were found South Asia with Pakistan under Generals like Zia, in Central Asia in the Shah of Iran, and in a sense, the Arab World with Saddam (Saddam was installed by the CIA), King Hassan in Morocco, the Gulf monarchies, and Jordan. Earlier, they were found in the monarchies in Libya and Egypt that were overthrown by Arab nationalists. Also, Israel played this sort of role with a democratic facade.

We also found them in the Near East in the military regimes in Turkey (especially Turgut Ozul) and for a while in Greece under the colonels in the late 1960's and early 1970's.

NATO formed the backbone of a "rightwing dictatorship" in the background of Western Europe (especially Italy), where Operation Gladio NATO intelligence essentially ran most of those countries as a Deep State behind the scenes. These regimes were found in Spain under Franco and in Portugal under Salazar along with its colonies.

These regimes were not so much in evidence in Africa except in South Africa and Rhodesia and most prominently, Mobutu in Zaire and Samuel Doe in Liberia.

The fascist forms of these rightwing dictatorships varied, most being nonracist fascism but a few being racist fascists (Turkey), and others being Mussolinists (Suharto in Indonesia with his "pangesila")

arby , Dec 19 2020 23:57 utc | 29
I can't say that I am a big Trump fan but I do like him for the very reason the Borg hates him. For saying things off script.

EG: "The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of....
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)"

John , Dec 20 2020 0:09 utc | 30
To one who has investigated cybercrime, this appears certain to be a complete fake by the Texas company SolarWinds. Investigating internet copyright racketeering, I found two networks of shell corporations with dozens of websites which took orders, did payments, or passed codes between those layers to obscure the connections. One of the prominent sites had the absurd name "TsarMedia.com" to look Russian, but was based in – you guessed it – Texas. Recall that the Ukraine cybercrime software routinely inserted Cyrillic characters and Russian historical names into headers to permit crooks to claim that the source was Russia. Texans too need all-purpose monsters on whom to blame their wrongdoing.

Note that all of the responsible US government agencies Refused to investigate those copyright racketeering operations, even when given the evidence, and were therefore likely involved, using hundreds of websites far outnumbering legitimate sources, offering political works for free with one click, to deny the authors their income source.

Also note that these warmonger scammers are dependents of the military industry and secret agencies, directly or indirectly, extreme tribalist primitives whose ideology is bullying, tyranny, and power-grabs by foul means, who are enemies of democracy let alone sane foreign policy, and will say anything at all to get their way.

Also note that the providers of the software are entirely responsible for making it easy to hack. As a software engineer, I have tried in vain for decades to convince companies producing critical infrastructure equipment to not use internet administration links, because they are not only hackable, but the encryption codes all have backdoors for "security" agencies. It is beyond foolishness to allow any system administrator to control anything from anywhere. So no doubt SolarWinds did just that, got hacked by anybody anywhere, and is looking for an excuse to avoid losing their contract. Being Texans in need of a big excuse, that excuse could only be Russia, the all-purpose monster behind every tree.

p , Dec 20 2020 1:49 utc | 35
@27 re Venezuela

iirc the software for the hydro station came from Canada, and ran on XP (Russian Col. 'Cassad' blog)

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Oleg Syromolotov 2019:

"According to the country's legitimate government headed by President Nicolas Maduro, as well as information from other credible sources, the electricity sector of Venezuela came under attack from abroad on March 7 of this year We provide all necessary assistance to Venezuelan friends on the basis of requests from the legitimate government...[this was] comprehensive remote influence on the control and monitoring systems of the main power distribution stations where the equipment produced in one of the Western countries has been installed...

They and the instigators of sabotage are responsible for the deaths of people, including of those in hospitals which were left without electricity..."

The civilian programmers are criminals, in the literal sense. When found, warrants must be placed with Interpol for their arrest.

With regard to government employees, in line with the Nuremburg trials, they cannot say they were acting on orders. They too, are criminally responsible. They could have refused orders, but didn't.

With regard to elected government officials, they carry diplomatic passports, and are immune while they do.

Lack of extradition treaties and the politicised and biased International Court of Justice means the politicians - murderers - will escape any punishment.

Notably, Blair, responsible for illegal aggression on a sovereign state resulting in mass murder of civilians, not only escaped any form of punishment, but has been made a very highly paid peace advisor.

ian , Dec 20 2020 1:56 utc | 36
I give zero weight to these opinions that only refer to anonymous 'experts' and never present any actual data. I get that the average NYT reader isn't an IT or cyber security expert, and has to let someone they trust interpret for them, but there are many people out there who are quite capable of looking at the data and drawing their own conclusions.
psychohistorian , Dec 20 2020 2:09 utc | 37
Reuters is now reporting a 2nd attempt of SolarWinds intrusion as described in the quote below

"Security experts told Reuters this second effort is known as "SUPERNOVA." It is a piece of malware that imitates SolarWinds' Orion product but it is not "digitally signed" like the other attack, suggesting this second group of hackers did not share access to the network management company's internal systems.

It is unclear whether SUPERNOVA has been deployed against any targets, such as customers of SolarWinds. The malware appears to have been created in late March, based on a review of the file's compile times.

The new finding shows how more than one sophisticated hacking group viewed SolarWinds, an Austin, Texas-based company that was not a household name until this month, as an important gateway to penetrate other targets."

j. casey , Dec 20 2020 2:24 utc | 38
Is any evidence offered that there was any hack at all? Is the entire thing a fully fabricated false flag, yet another, in service of taking Nord Stream 2 down?
CarlD , Dec 20 2020 3:10 utc | 39
Re Venezuela power outages.

When Maduro coalesced as a US target and his government was declared illegitimate, one of the first thing that happened was the destruction of the water turbines feeding the Venezuelan grid.

The US backed opposition claimed that this was the result of the Chavez and successors negligence towards thee maintenance of the generation equipment.

However, the Venezuelan Govt. had renovated all the dam equipment at the tune of 15+ billions with a German Firm in 2015.

Just as Stuxnet destroyed the Irani centrifuges, some entity derailed the governing system and led the Venezuelan turbines to death from overspeed.

Such hacking is lauded by the think tanks of the US. Was successful in causing widespread misery to millions.

But who gives a Flying F**k in the US about these things?

uncle tungsten , Dec 20 2020 3:23 utc | 40
psychohistorian #32
What an ugly way to run a society. Moving society to public finance and abolishing private finance is what is needed to save our species and what we can of the world we live in. I am with China in advocating for Ad Astra because we can see the end of our ability to live on this planet because of historical faith-based disrespect of it.

Thank you and it sure is ugly. Here is an interview with Kern Hudes for those interested.

On the IT story of the thread

Thank you to j. casey #38 for that question. Agreed the entire thing could be a hoax and the insider trading sting was the fee they got for going along with it.

Regardless of that the only way to ensure security is ably described by john #30:

Also note that the providers of the software are entirely responsible for making it easy to hack. As a software engineer, I have tried in vain for decades to convince companies producing critical infrastructure equipment to not use internet administration links, because they are not only hackable, but the encryption codes all have backdoors for "security" agencies.

It is beyond foolishness to allow any system administrator to control anything from anywhere. So no doubt SolarWinds did just that, got hacked by anybody anywhere, and is looking for an excuse to avoid losing their contract. Being Texans in need of a big excuse, that excuse could only be Russia, the all-purpose monster behind every tree.

Thank you for that brevity and deadly assassination of the idiots behind this.

Fyi , Dec 20 2020 3:36 utc | 41
Mr. CarlD

The Germans and the Americans decided that it was worth to risk the entire German SCADA business to sting Iran and later Venezuela. Because that was what those attacks, in the absence of Iranian or Venezuelan capitulation meant, harm to German bussiness for no strategic gains.

I suspect, like so much else that comes out of the Court of the Mad King and his minions, we are dealing with a form of Hubris: "We are the only suppliers of this type of equipment and we can abuse our customers..."

Hoarsewhisperer , Dec 20 2020 5:03 utc | 42
Yesterday, DW News compiled a report on Internet Anonymity focused on TOR as the most widely known example of anonymiser networks. They explained the mechanism by which one may access the www via the TOR network and shed one's own identity and replace it with one created in a TOR server, multiple times, until it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to trace the original identity.

The report was aired in the context of the current US cyber-intrusion claims and, although it didn't name names or point fingers, it concluded that anyone who says they know who expertly hacked their system is lying.

I thought it was jolly decent of DW to spell this out, considering all the US lap-doggish anti-Russia tropes the German govt has endorsed recently.

uncle tungsten , Dec 20 2020 5:15 utc | 43
Hoarsewhisperer #42

That is all very well fro DW to run that doco but TOR is not a wise choice to manufacture anonymity. There is a strong view that it is a flawed CIA construct. I am happy to be proven wrong but over the years some wise heads have urged caution.

Piotr Berman , Dec 20 2020 5:34 utc | 44
Sorry, folks, but as a practitioner in the field - the problem is systemic, not national or even international. Information Technology is a bloated mess.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 19 2020 21:21 utc | 12

I think that this is a classic case when we can productively ask "cui bono"?

Big software companies like Google and Microsoft have goals that are against the users, and they can do it because of monopoly powers and users do not knowing any better.

From browser side, one goal is to please advertisers by enabling takeovers of your hardware to track you, make displays that annoy you -- but at occasion entice you to spend money on something, freeze you computer with lame attempts to make dynamic displays and so on.

Because this is how browsers are money cows, operating systems support those shenanigans in an increasing variety of ways. So from security point of view we have a fortress with wide ramparts and massive walls that are riddled with tunnels, each tunnel having a rickety gate, and hordes of people improving padlocks on those gates with weekly security fixes. For those unfamiliar with rickety gates, when you have a fenced facility, it is easiest to climb over the gates, you can grab the frames, barbed wire is straight up (easier than the inclined wires on the rest of the fence, and if you are in a hurry, just hit the gate with the front bumper.)

Next, operating system have to be out of date in few years so you are forced to buy a new one or to buy a new computer (Apple model). Instability of systems prevent security fixes to be completed in the lifetime of a system.

Those are commercial motivation. Then there are deep state shenanigans, they want some openness to Trojan horses.

Arch Bungle , Dec 20 2020 5:41 utc | 45
Posted by: John | Dec 20 2020 0:09 utc | 30
Also note that the providers of the software are entirely responsible for making it easy to hack. As a software engineer, I have tried in vain for decades to convince companies producing critical infrastructure equipment to not use internet administration links, because they are not only hackable, but the encryption codes all have backdoors for "security" agencies. It is beyond foolishness to allow any system administrator to control anything from anywhere. So no doubt SolarWinds did just that, got hacked by anybody anywhere, and is looking for an excuse to avoid losing their contract. Being Texans in need of a big excuse, that excuse could only be Russia, the all-purpose monster behind every tree.

I would shift the bulk of the blame off the software manufacturers and onto the IT departments and integrators responsible for installing those products into their infrastructure, for the following general reasons:

Ultimately, making a single software product secure will only achieve limited gains: Those gains evaporate in an instant one some junior cablemonkey plugs a secure server into the public DMZ using the wrong network interface. No amount of code polishing, static analysis, secure software design is going to make even a dent when a careless admin sets the password to pass@123, disables TLS encryption and puts the management interface on the public network so he can easily run operations from the cafe' down the road.

Aside: I've had an on and off relationship with SolarWinds for 20 years, while it's been the running joke of IT admins the world over, exposing it's management interfaces to the public is something only the most amateurish IT departments would do. No, someone failed at the network administration layer: Where was the firewall admin in all this? Where was the Network administrator with his routing policies? Most of all the CTO/IT Director/IT managers clearly failed in the secure deployment and management of the product. Solarwinds doesn't put itself on the public Internet by accident!

Nothing really adds up about this whole story anyway:

- Why, when SolarWinds has been a gaping security hole for more than 2 decades is it now all of a sudden the gateway for a massive attack from a foreign power? Shouldn't it have been a continuous vulnerability all along? By now, every vulnerable internet facing SW installation would have been wiped out ages ago due to the frequency of automated attacks carried out against infrastructure in general.

Far from looking like an issue with SolarWinds, this looks like a massive and widespread failure in basic IT security by dozens of companies possibly connected by a single large service provider.

The media reporting around this issue also sounds to me like extreme coverup, take this WIRED magazine snippet:

"Over the past several years, the US has invested billions of dollars in Einstein, a system designed to detect digital intrusions. But because the SolarWinds hack was what's known as a "supply chain" attack, in which Russia compromised a trusted tool rather than using known malware to break in, Einstein failed spectacularly."

( https://www.wired.com/story/russia-solarwinds-hack-roundup/)

Really. They can't find any actual Russian malware, so instead it's "in which Russia compromised a trusted tool rather than using known malware to break in,"

Ha. Ha. Ha. Pull the other leg, Wired.

m , Dec 20 2020 8:25 utc | 46
China and Russia should conclude a cyber treaty among each other, work out the details of the verification mechanism (which is very difficult in this sphere)
and then invite other nations to join. Most other countries would probably eventually do that.

That wouldn't deter the USA or Israel from their maligne cyber activities, but it would make sure that any such move which becomes publicly known would come with a diplomatic cost.

Smith , Dec 20 2020 8:43 utc | 47
Now they are done with the anti-China phase, they are into anti-Russia?

Like clockwork, Russia should be careful though, it's by far the most vulnerable powers in the 3, US, China and Russia.

Framarz , Dec 20 2020 9:03 utc | 48
Bernhard: "The only way to prevent potentially dangerous cyber-operations is too agree with adversaries on what is off-limits and to (verifiably) stick to that."

One can not agree. We all know Micro$oft, Google, FB, Whatsapp, Instagram, ... are feeding US and Zionist intelligence agencies with all type of informations. Any international treaty on cyber-security would under this conditions be obsolete from the beginning.

Another matter is that as Bernhard correctly points out: "One can not spy on other countries and then complain when they do something similar to oneself. Responding by waging destruction against another country's IT systems only guarantees that there will be a response in kind. If one wants to avert cyber-espionage and cyber-attacks there is only one way out."

But it's just naive to think that CIA, NSA, Mossad are going to respect any international agreement in any area. Stuxnet virus and it's intrusion of the Iranian nuclear facilities or sabotage of Venezuelan power-grid facilities were not made by China, Russia or North Korea. US government and Zionist Apartheid regime did those, aiming to sabotage and do harm not only on facilities but also on humans. If we go back, the much praised (in western MSM) Stuxnet was the operation legitimizing all similar cyber attacks to follow in the future. ZioImperialists can not expect having free hands to physically terror other nations and not be considered as a legitim target by them.

Another issue is that by criminalizing whistle-blowing and whistle-blowers like Snowden, Manning et al, US government and Zionists shoot in their own knee. If the price of whistle-blowing of criminality is too high, then the whistle-blowers doesn't go public, he or she just provide the access to those who can cover the criminal acts from the distance.

Framarz , Dec 20 2020 10:11 utc | 49
About the "Russian", "Chinese" narrative, I admit, it's a bit strange that US government and MSM are still insisting on them. I find it somehow positive. They know who was behind, they blame it on someone else, this could mean: "We are not going to do anything about it!"

If this is the case, then it sound wise, who knows what is going to happen if they choose to act aggressive against one of many enemies while one of the enemies got access to among others the entire network of their energy security administration.

And, lets not forget that Zionists Apartheid regime put USA in the current humiliating position in the first place.
A very constructive approach by US government would be to drop all illegal sanctions against others, pull out of ME and focus on their own domestic business instead of servicing Zionist Apartheid regime.

peter , Dec 20 2020 11:12 utc | 53
"To blame, without evidence, Russia for a 'hack' and to incite against it will not solve the above problems."

Maybe this time it really was Russia, according to Doctorow:

"The allegations of Russian hacking made by the United States in the heat of Russia-gate were frivolous, appropriate to toddlers in a sandbox. Leaving fingerprints all over the supposed theft over the internet to get at Hillary's communications and tip the election in Trump's favor. Only a fool would think that the Kremlin operates at this level. And, as we know, there are plenty of fools in the USA, though it appears a disproportionate number of them are in the Democratic Party and its thought leaders like Chuck Schumer of New York and Rick Blumenthal of Connecticut.

This hacking was of a different scale and different nature entirely. It was massive. It had no friendly or other bear tags put on by the Ukrainians. It went straight for the jugular, the most secret and sensitive corners of the US government. And it apparently was not destructive, did nothing that could trigger a war, just make a point: gotcha!"

https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2020/12/20/the-russians-did-it/

Sounds reasonable to me - if the US persists in threats with devastating cyber attacks against the RF because of those idiotic Russia Gate claims - demonstrate what the RF really can do and prevent any planned stupidity by the USA.

chu teh , Dec 20 2020 11:29 utc | 54

Fyi | Dec 20 2020 3:36 utc | 41

re... risk the entire German SCADA business to sting Iran and later Venezuela.

Well, an obedient/coerced? Siemens can figure nicely into the calculus if you have a minute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgzB4_Zw3RE

"How the US dominates Tech" As recommended recently by uncle tungsten | Dec 17 2020 23:55 utc | 46

Big shout-out to "Canadian Cents"

Simon , Dec 20 2020 11:33 utc | 55
Relentlessly, you go to stories in the New York Times. Like a dog returning to its excrement. Everybody knows it's an intelligence shill. Why do you bother? There are far more important things you could be reporting on.
Bemildred , Dec 20 2020 11:54 utc | 56
Posted by: Johny Conspiranoid | Dec 20 2020 10:21 utc | 51

"It makes no sense to connect something to the internet and then expect it to remain secret."

Indeed. And yet they have been doing it vigorously for 30 years now, making a few shallow assholes very very rich, wasting huge quantities of natural resources, allowing many feckless bureaucrats to pretend to do something for somebody, screwing the heck out of most everybody else, and making everybody - and I do mean everybody - less secure. But hey, your phone can tell you how to get to the store.

Mark2 , Dec 20 2020 12:33 utc | 57
We know beyond doubt that the top shelf of our society have no regard what so ever for law and order international or national. They will break the law with impunity, turn a blind eye to their colleagues breaking the rules. They will impose the law on the public like a sledgehammer to oppress us.

Wouldn't we just love to be a 'fly on the wall' when they get together and conspire to commit there criminality !! ZOOM The soft vonrable underbelly of your criminal elite.

Bemildred , Dec 20 2020 12:50 utc | 58
@Ghost Ship | Dec 20 2020 10:25 utc | 52

These large, complicated, very expensive software "management" packages are largely butt-covering, to protect management from the threat of "doing nothing" when things go wrong. Some nice kickbacks in it too. The usual effect is to make the sysadmins spend all their time trying to make the package work right. Security theater and treated like it too, fancy costumes out in front, bare wall behind the curtain. I remember one "configuration management" package that was practically an operating system all by itself and absolutely a waste of time. Network management even more so.

Norwegian , Dec 20 2020 12:56 utc | 59
@ james | Dec 19 2020 21:04 utc | 11
When did your moderator assignment here begin?
Norwegian , Dec 20 2020 13:04 utc | 60
@Hoyeru | Dec 19 2020 20:51 utc | 9
I dont understand why people still waste their time writing article refuting USA's claims. Dont people understand already USA DOES NOT NEED NO STINKING EVIDENCE?
That is plainly obvious, yes. The criminal US regime does what it does and their claims against other countries are almost universally without evidence. Spending energy refuting baseless claims can even provide an impression of legitimacy around those insane and baseless claims. The question is how to expose the lies without giving the liars legitimacy.
Norwegian , Dec 20 2020 13:14 utc | 61
@gottlieb | Dec 19 2020 21:25 utc | 13
One thing we know for sure and that is the US government has one enemy above all others: the truth.
Unfortunately, this is true not only for the US government, but for the "western" governments, establishments and media in general. To them, lies are no problem but truth is a deadly enemy. I could tell a personal story about that, but it would be off topic for this thread so I will not. But the observation that truth is the enemy to these people is key, even if it seems simplistic. The fact is that you cannot reason with people who have truth as their enemy.
Norwegian , Dec 20 2020 13:34 utc | 62
@j. casey | Dec 20 2020 2:24 utc | 38
Is any evidence offered that there was any hack at all? Is the entire thing a fully fabricated false flag, yet another, in service of taking Nord Stream 2 down?
That's a key question, I agree. The proper position to take is that it is all baseless lies unless verifiable evidence that the 'hack' actually occurred is presented. Never mind the claims of 'who did it' when there is no evidence that anything happened at all.

The situation in the west now is such that all information is centrally controlled, and face to face communication has been severely limited. It is not a coincidence.

pretzelattack , Dec 20 2020 13:39 utc | 63
I haven't seen this level of propaganda since the buildup to the second Iraq war. They are obviously planning more aggression against Russia and have to keep the public at a fever pitch to get away with it. it serves so many purposes, not just politically for the dnc and rnc, but for nato, the vastly overfunded intel community, etc. the domestic arm of the fake war on terror is of course the cops, and the various federal cops. Here the propaganda seems aimed mainly at republicans, with the "marxist blm" and "marxist fascist antifa" exciting the republican base into a frenzy, and the main foreign "villain" is said to be china. the propaganda aimed at the democrats focuses on russia; that product already has a proven track record of success with the democratic base, and the lies are aimed at whitewashing biden and harris and their abysmal records of support for police violence. nato and the us intel community have to justify their existence by stirring up the populace against imaginary foreign aggression, and it has succeeded spectacularly with the public in the u.s.

in short, these idiots want to take us to the edge of a major world war so they can continue to loot and control us, and they seem to think they will do just fine in a post nuclear war future.

Norwegian , Dec 20 2020 13:48 utc | 64
@Piotr Berman | Dec 20 2020 5:34 utc | 44
From browser side, one goal is to please advertisers by enabling takeovers of your hardware to track you, make displays that annoy you -- but at occasion entice you to spend money on something, freeze you computer with lame attempts to make dynamic displays and so on.
You have many good points, thanks. For the time being, I would recommend the Brave Browser https://brave.com/ as a countermove to these issues. It is super fast, ad free (or you can choose to get paid to see ads) and generally very good. I use it under Windows, Linux, Android and on my iPhone. As for operating systems becoming 'obsolete' forcing you to buy a new computer: Unless you have very special requirements, Linux Ubuntu will do all you need for free on your existing hardware. It is easy to install, very secure and virus free (the Windows virus business model does not work everywhere).
William Gruff , Dec 20 2020 14:04 utc | 65
Norwegian @60:
@gottlieb | Dec 19 2020 21:25 utc | 13
One thing we know for sure and that is the US government has one enemy above all others: the truth.

Unfortunately, this is true not only for the US government, but for the "western" governments, establishments and media in general.

It is worse even than that. The aversion to truth permeates western cultures. The obese American looks in the mirror and sees fitness. The educated fool looks in the mirror and sees wisdom. The boy raised to believe that being a white male is bad looks in the mirror and sees a virtuous girl trapped in the evil enemy's body, or even worse he sees a mountain panda. The young woman with no accomplishments but endless praise and petting of her ego looks in the mirror and sees vague exceptionality and formless superiority. The fascist looks in the mirror and sees a noble warrior for social justice.

The US government can get away with existing in denial because the population relies upon denial as well.

librul , Dec 20 2020 14:51 utc | 66
A fait accompli (fa) for headline readers.

On Reuters main webpage is a heading that reads: "Biden's options for Russian hacking punishment: sanctions, cyber retaliation"

The accusation, investigation and trial phases are as good as done, only the setting of the punishment phase remains.

It is for the benefit of headline readers. In the body of the article itself Reuters used the words "suspected hack" once. When will Reuters move the goal posts and quietly drop the word "suspected". It is guaranteed that they will, the question is how long before they weasel it away. The timing is certainly not dependent upon "evidence", more dependent upon how long until they think people won't notice the change.

(actually, there are two (fa) in the headline, Russia is guilty of hacking and Biden is President)

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-cyber-breach-biden/bidens-options-for-russian-hacking-punishment-sanctions-cyber-retaliation-idUSKBN28U0DV

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(over the top idea, I hope it is just an idea)

A scary thought is that all this is prepping the American Sheeple for a vast shutdown of communication ("the Russian's did it!")
in the event the Deep State is not getting it's way with stealing this election.

Rao , Dec 20 2020 14:52 utc | 67
Norwegian@60
For those who wish to use linux from windows is there is puppylinux frugal install.
You can start from pendrive install with in 10 minutes.
Rao
pretzelattack , Dec 20 2020 14:52 utc | 68
i'm sure the most murderous cops look in the mirror and see noble warriors for social justice, just as many of them did when they were slaughtering Iraqis in the street from a helicopter or in fallujah.
vk , Dec 20 2020 15:07 utc | 70
The whole thing is already beginning to crumble: White House Backs Away From Issuing Statement Blaming Russia for 'Sunburst' Attack, Reports Say

This "backing down at the eleventh hour" came just after this: 2nd Hacking Group 'Affected' US SolarWinds Software, Microsoft Says as Trump Questions Russian Role

This time, SolarWinds didn't blame another nation. It just stated it was "investigating". Even for Trump's rabid anti-Sinicism, it was too much, so he toned down on his Twitter:

...discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!). There could also have been a hit on our ridiculous voting machines during the election, which is now obvious that I won big, making it an even more corrupted embarrassment for the USA. @DNI_Ratcliffe @SecPompeo
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

From "it was China!" to "discussing the possibility that it may be China" there's an abyssal distance. Trump is also backing down.

There's a clear pattern here: the American Governments and MSM initiate a very virulent propaganda attack, based on outright fake news, against Russia and/or China. A burst of hysteria takes over the nation. Then it quickly, almost aggressively, backs down and tones down on the propaganda warfare.

Of course that there's an element of "bend but not break" here, as credibility is a finite resource the MSM and the USG have to use carefully and with moderation. Plausible deniability is a necessary tool in order to not spend your whole credibility at once and to replenish it, while also giving the masses a credible scenario (not perfect, not dystopian: in the middle of the road).

But there's also a nobler objective with this: to preserve the company's stock market prices. By creating a panacea over a foreign enemy, SolarWinds/FireEye calm down the shareholders and Wall Street, thus preserving or at least softening the blow to the realization their product is inferior in quality, even borderline useless. It's not that the shareholders and Wall St. don't know that, but that they are now ensured the masses won't know that.

We have a scenario here where the American MSM and the USG are now completely fused to Wall Street. As junior partners.

William Gruff , Dec 20 2020 15:41 utc | 71
pretzelattack @68

Denial is how so many Americans can live with themselves. It is why I despair of America saving itself.

William Gruff , Dec 20 2020 16:03 utc | 73
So Trump is attributing the obvious issues in the election to this hack attack? Now the pieces begin to fall together. I would say that evidence has been uncovered (but lot yet leaked) that the vote tabulation was altered and that is why we have suddenly been treated to the "Foreign baddies hacked us!" media spectacle while nothing has been said of what these hackers actually did: The public needs to be primed with the diversion before the leaks are sprung. Basically, the manipulation of the vote counts by the "We lie, we cheat, we steal!" gang has been uncovered and the suspicion that it was a domestic job has to be headed off. A narrative needs to be generated and installed in the public consciousness in which the evidence that the CIA was behind the hack was actually planted by clever Russian/Chinese/Iranian bad guys and the CIA is innocent.

A CYA operation for the CIA? That is what it is starting to look like to me.

chu teh , Dec 20 2020 17:51 utc | 77
Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 20 2020 15:41 utc | 71

re ...Denial is how so many Americans can live with themselves....

Indeed that is workably true. More broadly for all humans, might be restated as: Automatically creating justifications is how the mind* "protects" its owner from confronting being "wrong". *mind--whatever that is; there is much disagreement about that.

fyi , Dec 20 2020 18:19 utc | 78
Mr. chu teh

Yes, the stupid avarice at the Court of the Mad King is remarkable. It demonstrates a species of Hubris which assumes that no one can retaliate against them.

I note here that the Russians have now full legal and financial control of their aerospace firms and their new mid-size passenger jet does not have foreign content.

Basically, the Mad King has alerted other sovereigns in the world of their vulnerabilities and they are proceeding to address those items - likely taking 20 or 30 years.

pretzelattack , Dec 20 2020 19:45 utc | 79
denial is probably the way the cops who run down protestors, or shoot them in the back, live with themselves. and true, a lot of americans cheer those cops on, and pretend they are justified, just as many americans cheer on the troops overseas who are also thought to be protecting freedom, like those in the wikileaks video who shot at children in the street. "fighting terrorism for freedom" my ass. this kind of denial is certainly a lot more consequential than the tendency to deny one is overweight or losing their hair, and i don't think it is the same process.

i don't know about the republican caucus in iowa, but i know what the dnc rigged the cauces in iowa against sanders, so it's not like the process can't be interfered with, whether by an app that doesn't work or simple old fashioned cheating like pretending to flip a coin.

pretzelattack , Dec 20 2020 20:06 utc | 80
another thing about cops who are about to commit violence they can't justify; they often turn off their body cams, or claim they forgot to turn them on, or they weren't working. that's not denial; that's premeditation.
arby , Dec 20 2020 20:20 utc | 81
I read somewhere that human beings are not rational but rationalizing. Sounds about right to me.

c1ue , Dec 21 2020 1:59 utc | 82

@Piotr Berman #44

No, cui bono is irrelevant. IT is a mess because despite the pace of historical change, the effects on productivity are remarkable. If one can improve productivity by double digits with half-assed IT efforts - why bother with more coherent and considered planning or execution?

Now repeat this every 3 years or so. The result is an ungodly hodgepodge in very little time.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 21 2020 1:59 utc | 82

Antonym , Dec 21 2020 3:33 utc | 83
I see it now simple thus: Anglo Deep $tate cannot defeat China MIL plus Russia so it needs them split. That's how Kissinger "won" the Vietnam war by cozying up to Mao. Quite a Pyrrhic victory on the short (Vietnam) and the long (PR China today) run. Any crap is being hauled up to tar Russia, from MH17, via Skripal to cyber false flaggery.
James joseph , Dec 21 2020 4:17 utc | 84
For me, the incredible truth is that greed overcame all other emotions: patriotism? ...just a adman's final lever; exceptionalism could have no other end other than the bonfire of the vanities. Greed, by the very few ultra rich, the lucre flowing down to control all segments of the society, the body now being feasted on, until there are few specs left , worthy of the effort.

[Dec 21, 2020] It make sense to look for articles written by qualified specialists and ignore neoliberal MSM coverage

Dec 21, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

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Kent Pete Barbeaux 2 days ago • edited

I disagree. What aggression did the Russians take? A Russian pilot flying over a US aircraft carrier and taking pictures is intelligence gathering. A Russian bomber trying to bomb a US aircraft carrier is an act of aggression.

By that definition, this is normal intelligence gathering. Not something that requires killing people.

Edited to add: Of course it was legitimately signed. Solarwinds signed it and pushed it out. That only means the software came from Solarwinds internal builds. Shame on Solarwinds for not maintaining simple checksum chains of its object code to insure it hasn't been overwritten. Shame on the defense department for not requiring Solarwinds to maintain secure source control.

sarsfield Kent 2 days ago

Shame on Solarwinds for not maintaining simple checksum chains of its object code to insure it hasn't been overwritten. Shame on the defense department for not requiring Solarwinds to maintain secure source control.

This is the first indication i have seen anywhere on this breach which suggests SolarWinds could have taken basic precautions in pushing out its firmware updates. I am going to look for articles written by Cyber people on this and ignore the press.


Tom Sadlowski
sarsfield 2 days ago

Yes, Tech in this current era, is neglecting the most foundational checks and balances. In a twenty-four span, we had the SolarWinds/Microsoft 365 Hack and the Google Cloud global failure, after having the entire world's internet stopping due to a bad mass deployed firmware update to the switches. Therefore, I believe the Federal Government is best to create its own proprietary system than outsourcing to Microsoft, Amazon, or Google.


kouroi
Pete Barbeaux a day ago

Some edits would be useful, like instead of: "containing a direct back door to the Russian military" one should have written "containing a direct back door to any knowledgeable hacker". Something that Snowden for YEARS has complained about. And this is why HUAWEI is so hated, because it doesn't offer backdoors to be exploited, in a handshake understanding with US intelligence corps.

some antigovernment lunatic 2 days ago

Until now all I've seen were anonymous sources claiming that it kind of feels like those dastardly Russkies were behind it again. Did I miss the part where actual evidence was provided?

[Dec 21, 2020] Boomerang returns: methods pioneered in Stuxnet and Flame return and bite the USA in the butt

CISA is an agency full of bureaucrats, not computer specialists. So any judgement is highly suspect. In my view "computer security bureaucrat" is typically a parasite or a charlatan. Traditionally computer security departments in large corporations often serve as a place to exile incompetent wannabes. I do not think the government is different. Real high quality programmers usually prefer to write their own software not to spend their time analyzing some obtuse malware code. Often high level honchos in such department are so obviously incompetent that it hurts. This is the same agency that declared Presidential election 2020 to be the most secure in history. So their statements are not worth the electrons used to put them on the screen, so say nothing about a ppar , if they manage to get into such rags as NYT or WaPo.
We need clear-eyed assessment from a real Windows OS specialists like for Stuxnet was Mark Russinovich , which is difficult in current circumstances.
Dec 21, 2020 | arstechnica.com

The supply chain attack used to breach federal agencies and at least one private company poses a "grave risk" to the United States, in part because the attackers likely used means other than just the SolarWinds backdoor to penetrate networks of interest, federal officials said on Thursday. One of those networks belongs to the National Nuclear Security Administration, which is responsible for the Los Alamos and Sandia labs, according to a report from Politico .

"This adversary has demonstrated an ability to exploit software supply chains and shown significant knowledge of Windows networks," officials with the Cybersecurity Infrastructure and Security Agency wrote in an alert . "It is likely that the adversary has additional initial access vectors and tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) that have not yet been discovered." CISA, as the agency is abbreviated, is an arm of the Department of Homeland Security.

Elsewhere, officials wrote: "CISA has determined that this threat poses a grave risk to the Federal Government and state, local, tribal, and territorial governments as well as critical infrastructure entities and other private sector organizations."

Reuters, meanwhile, reported that the attackers breached a separate major technology supplier and used the compromise to get into high-value final targets. The news services cited two people briefed on the matter.

FURTHER READING Premiere security firm FireEye says it was breached by nation-state hackers The attackers, whom CISA said began their operation no later than March, managed to remain undetected until last week when security firm FireEye reported that hackers backed by a nation-state had penetrated deep into its network . Early this week, FireEye said that the hackers were infecting targets using Orion, a widely used network management tool from SolarWinds. After taking control of the Orion update mechanism, the attackers were using it to install a backdoor that FireEye researchers are calling Sunburst. Advertisement

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FURTHER READING Russian hackers hit US government using widespread supply chain attack Sunday was also when multiple news outlets, citing unnamed people, reported that the hackers had used the backdoor in Orion to breach networks belonging to the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and possibly other agencies. The Department of Homeland Security and the National Institutes of Health were later added to the list. Bleak assessment

Thursday's CISA alert provided an unusually bleak assessment of the hack; the threat it poses to government agencies at the national, state, and local levels; and the skill, persistence, and time that will be required to expel the attackers from networks they had penetrated for months undetected.

"This APT actor has demonstrated patience, operational security, and complex tradecraft in these intrusions," officials wrote in Thursday's alert. "CISA expects that removing this threat actor from compromised environments will be highly complex and challenging for organizations."

The officials went on to provide another bleak assessment: "CISA has evidence of additional initial access vectors, other than the SolarWinds Orion platform; however, these are still being investigated. CISA will update this Alert as new information becomes available."

The advisory didn't say what the additional vectors might be, but the officials went on to note the skill required to infect the SolarWinds software build platform, distribute backdoors to 18,000 customers, and then remain undetected in infected networks for months.

"This adversary has demonstrated an ability to exploit software supply chains and shown significant knowledge of Windows networks," they wrote. "It is likely that the adversary has additional initial access vectors and tactics, techniques, and procedures that have not yet been discovered."

Among the many federal agencies that used SolarWinds Orion, reportedly, was the Internal Revenue Service. On Thursday, Senate Finance Committee Ranking Member Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) sent a letter to IRS Commissioner Chuck Rettig asking that he provide a briefing on whether taxpayer data was compromised.

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The IRS appears to have been a customer of SolarWinds as recently as 2017. Given the extreme sensitivity of personal taxpayer information entrusted to the IRS, and the harm both to Americans' privacy and our national security that could result from the theft and exploitation of this data by our adversaries, it is imperative that we understand the extent to which the IRS may have been compromised. It is also critical that we understand what actions the IRS is taking to mitigate any potential damage, ensure that hackers do not still have access to internal IRS systems, and prevent future hacks of taxpayer data.

IRS representatives didn't immediately return a phone call seeking comment for this post.

The CISA alert said the key takeaways from its investigation so far are:

This is a patient, well-resourced, and focused adversary that has sustained long duration activity on victim networks The SolarWinds Orion supply chain compromise is not the only initial infection vector this APT actor leveraged Not all organizations that have the backdoor delivered through SolarWinds Orion have been targeted by the adversary with follow-on actions Organizations with suspected compromises need to be highly conscious of operational security, including when engaging in incident response activities and planning and implementing remediation plans

What has emerged so far is that this is an extraordinary hack whose full scope and effects won't be known for weeks or even months. Additional shoes are likely to drop early and often.

[Dec 21, 2020] Are you insinuating the fake news factory aka The NY Times is not a credible source ;)

When I see "cybersecurity specialist" on national TV I always suspect he/she is a crook ;-)
Dec 21, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

some antigovernment lunatic 2 days ago

Until now all I've seen were anonymous sources claiming that it kind of feels like those dastardly Russkies were behind it again. Did I miss the part where actual evidence was provided?

smallprint some antigovernment lunatic 2 days ago • edited

Are you insinuating the fake news factory aka The NY Times is not a credible source ;)

kouroi smallprint a day ago

https://www.livetube.tv/blo...

smallprint kouroi a day ago • edited

The NY Times used to have an entire department focusing on selling the Iraq war. Google "Judith Miller", who was the chief sell-Iraq-war propagandist and liar. The NY Times has a bad record of being the "publication of record" among the corporate mainstream media.

kouroi byersbewhere a day ago

4 years of Russiagate should make anyone a bit mistrustful, then WMD & Iraq War before that?

some antigovernment lunatic byersbewhere 19 hours ago • edited

"Your honor, you are quite right about the lack of evidence. The problem is...you shouldn't want me to show you the evidence! That would be tantamount to revealing my investigative techniques!"

"Well, when you put it that way..."

And of course the sources were anonymous. Don't you read the WaPo like a good citizen?

The Russian hackers, known by the nicknames APT29 or Cozy Bear, are part of that nation's foreign intelligence service, the SVR, and they breached email systems in some cases, said the people familiar with the intrusions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter

https://www.washingtonpost....

Daniel Baker 2 days ago

Is there any precedent for declaring pure espionage/intelligence gathering, even on a very large scale, to be an armed attack warranting an armed response? I can't think of any.

A major breach of U.S. security calls for a robust law enforcement response and cybersecurity measures, and arguably even for the longstanding death penalty for espionage if the offenders are caught, but not for cries of "declaration of war," like Dick Durbin's.


Greengrocer
2 days ago

It's curious how all this official talk of cyber-spying never mentions one particular country that does a ton of it to us: Israel.


smallprint
Greengrocer 2 days ago

That's because God told them they own whatever they're stealing from the US. Ask any Palestinian, they'll tell you how it works.


Annie from Alaska
Rkramden66 2 days ago

We do not know whether the perps were Chinese or not. The claims of attribution are coming from motivated speakers and lack credibility.

butseriouslynow Annie from Alaska 2 days ago

I'm beginning to understand why conservatives in Alaska say they can see Russia from their back door.

smallprint Annie from Alaska 2 days ago • edited

That applies to the same sources "informing" us about the so-called Russian hack.
Remember when we were "informed" N. Korea hacked into Sonny's and "downloaded" an entire movie, which was not even released?! Turned out that was an inside job by a woman who had worked at Sonny for ten years. I smell the same BS from the likes of the NY Times.

[Dec 21, 2020] The Russian 'Cyber Pearl Harbor' That Wasn't

Dec 21, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Home / Articles / Policy / The Russian 'Cyber Pearl Harbor' That Wasn't POLICY The Russian 'Cyber Pearl Harbor' That Wasn't

The recent SolarWinds hack is no excuse for doomsday rhetoric, especially from those who have been leveling it for decades. (Shutterstock/solarseven)

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SEAN LAWSON AND BRANDON VALERIANO

For almost three decades, we have awaited a mythical "cyber Pearl Harbor," the harbinger of digital doom that the U.S. cybersecurity community assumes to be inevitable. Strangely enough, some believe this cyber Pearl Harbor already happened twice within the last two months.

Though warnings of cyber Pearl Harbor emerged as early as 1991, former defense secretary Leon Panetta is perhaps best known for promoting the idea, warning in 2012 of an impending "cyber-Pearl Harbor that would cause physical destruction and the loss of life, an attack that would paralyze and shock the nation." Such a grand event would be tough to miss.

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Last week, Sidney Powell, a one-time member of the president's legal team, continued to promote her conspiracy theory that the Venezuelans, the Chinese, and "other countries" had exploited voting machines to rig the election for President-elect Joe Biden. This fictitious "attack," she told Fox Business host Lou Dobbs, amounted to nothing less than "cyber Pearl Harbor." Apparently the rest of us just missed it.

Cybersecurity experts, including Christopher Krebs, the former head of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency who was fired by President Trump in November, have refuted these claims. Krebs called them "farcical" and "nonsensical." Officials have said there was no interference with voting machines of the kind claimed by Trump supporters and that the election was "the most secure in American history."

This week began with the news of cybersecurity breaches at a growing list of private companies and government agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security and even the Pentagon, perpetrated by APT29 , the Russian SVR. Dubbed SolarWinds after the company whose software served as the vector for the intrusions, the scope of the operation and the fact that it impacted defense and intelligence agencies sparked an online debate as to whether it had constituted an "attack" on the United States. Others did not wait to learn the extent of the damage before declaring that the United States had been "hit with 'Cyber-Pearl Harbor.'" Senator Richard Durbin went so far as to call the hack "virtually a declaration of war."

National Review 's Jim Geraghty implied that the United States missed the SolarWinds intrusions because it failed to take the 2015 Office of Personnel Management (OPM) breach at the hands of Chinese hackers seriously enough, focusing instead on Russian disinformation in the wake of that country's interference in the 2016 presidential election. The OPM incident, he said, "was widely described as the 'cyber Pearl Harbor' and yet most Americans didn't notice."

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Calling any of these incidents "cyber Pearl Harbor" is inaccurate at best and inherently dangerous. The impacts of the OPM and SolarWinds hacks in no way approximate the kind of death and destruction most often associated with the use of the "cyber Pearl Harbor" analogy. The whole point of a cyber Pearl Harbor is that we would not miss the significance of such a major catastrophe since it would lead to an inevitable reconstitution of the cyber security threat environment.

This continued use of doomsday rhetoric is dangerous because it distorts our understanding of the cyber threats we do face, the implications of real incidents when they occur, and our possible response options. As Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in 2015, the OPM breach was representative of the real cyber threats we face not because it was the fulfillment of a long-awaited " cyber Armageddon scenario ," but because it was not. It was not an "attack," he said, but an incident of the kind of cyber espionage we witness regularly. That the cyber domain is dominated by espionage and represents a wider intelligence contest demonstrates the continuing misapplication of strategic thought surrounding cyber security violations.

Five years later, it is still unhelpful to frame incidents like SolarWind as the arrival of digital apocalypse instead of another major incident of cyber espionage . Continued hyperbole surrounding every new cyber incident encourages the kind of craven misappropriation of fears of cyber doom by those who seek to inflate threats for political gain.

We do not know the scope of SolarWinds mainly because the domain has no conception of measuring impact. In an arena obsessed with battle damage estimates, the Department of Defense simply has no interest in measuring the impact of their operations and the utility of defend forward operations that provide little leverage against espionage operations.

The FY2021 NDAA contains the most significant cyber security legislation to date. Helping the government organize in order to deny operations in the cyber environment is a critical task. There are provisions for threat hunting, organizational coordination, and more funding for cyber operations to maintain and defend cyberspace. Yet the deeper challenge is how we defend against espionage.

The real lesson of Pearl Harbor is the desperation of Japan to preemptively eliminate the United States as a threat to Japanese operations in the Pacific and the U.S. intelligence failures that enabled the attack in the first place. Taking the analogy in the correct direction suggests that the U.S. needs to seek to deny attack options to prevent infiltrations such as the SolarWinds event. The U.S. also needs to do better of understanding the strategic motivations of our adversaries. In this case, being distracted by the possibility of a major hack during the 2020 election led to a comprehensive violation of almost every government agency.

Hyperbole needs to stop and rational consideration of the impact of the SolarWind operation will take time and sober thought, not instant hot takes. Infiltration and extracting information is not an act of war, but evidence of the typical espionage operations that are conducted against near peer adversaries. Denying future operations will require a sober assessment of how to enable the defense when the attacker has many attack options. This will likely not come solely through government action, but collaboration between industry, the private sector, and government agencies that provide for collective defense.

Sean Lawson is associate professor of Communication at the University of Utah and non-resident fellow at the Krulak Center at the Marine Corps University.

Brandon Valeriano is the Donald Bren Chair of Military Innovation at the Marine Corps University located at the Krulak Center. He also serves as a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a senior advisor to the U.S. Cyber Solarium Commission.


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Connecticut Farmer 2 days ago

Excellent article. Hyperbole is about the last thing we need at this point in time. Unfortunately, hyperbole is standard fare these days. The result? Misinformation and half-truths, followed by hasty (and often erroneous) conclusions, followed by incorrect remedies which, more often than not, tend to make what are already bad situations only worse.

M Orban Connecticut Farmer 2 days ago • edited

Unfortunately when it comes to cyber attacks, unlike an actual Pearl Harbor, the damage is invisible to most of us. So are the perpetrators. We can't directly see the trail of evidence that connects the crime to the suspects, so we have to rely on the testimony of experts.
Then we have political pressure groups that are interested in up or down playing the severity of the breach.
On top of all, we have a population that is utterly ignorant but 'been trained to distrust experience.
As I am typing this, I am less and less optimistic.

Sourpuss M Orban 2 days ago

Even worse, we have a severely alienated population that is tired of being played by elites with constant hype about alleged foreign enemies. We have a population that sees more immediate threat from its own elites than Russian spies. The headline reads like "Deep State has Russkies in its Shorts Again" and la dee dah, why do I even care? Are Russkies gonna take my job, lock me down, or cancel me? Too late, Vlad, I've already been done.

smallprint M Orban 2 days ago

What breach bro?!

[Dec 21, 2020] The USAID, Clintons and disaster capitalism in action

Notable quotes:
"... USAID led at that time by someone named Rajiv Khan, I think it was, and directed by Hill, comandeered the few landing spots at the airport for themselves preventing planes carrying Actual Aid -- you know, food, clothing, meds -- from landing and unloading. ..."
"... I have friends who lived in Haiti at the time and years after the disaster only 6 new residences had been built and the promised factories? As far as I know, never did get built. ..."
"... USAID seems to be about anything but AID. ..."
"... When pressed about the lack of progress made in the (housing) rebuilding efforts, including inabilities to provide shelter, Secretary of State Clinton said "Those who expect progress immediately are unrealistic and doing a disservice to the many people who are working so hard. ..."
Dec 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

NYCVG on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 1:55pm

USAID's misbehavior in Haiti

was mammoth and memorable.

USAID led at that time by someone named Rajiv Khan, I think it was, and directed by Hill, comandeered the few landing spots at the airport for themselves preventing planes carrying Actual Aid -- you know, food, clothing, meds -- from landing and unloading.

Then Bill was named "Ambassador to Haiti" and the situation Never improved.

I have friends who lived in Haiti at the time and years after the disaster only 6 new residences had been built and the promised factories? As far as I know, never did get built.

USAID seems to be about anything but AID.

wendy davis on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 4:58pm
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@NYCVG

good example! I vote Power and Sunstein to head USAID! i was a bit more than surprised that ann garrison never mentioned it's a CIA cut-out, to say the truth.

on edit: ach; you'd meant Bill Fuck over haiti Clinton!

' F*cking the Haitian 99%: Another Clinton Family Project ', October 27, 2015 by wendyedavis (longish, but this key excerpt)

"Sure, Bill and Hill love sweatshop industrial complexes (from nacla.org) more than houses for Haiti, and love HELP™ (comically ironic acronym):

"On September 20, Haitian prime minister Jean-Marc Bellerive, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and the World Bank's International Finance Corporation announced their partnership with the South Korean garment firm Sae-A Trading Company to establish an industrial park that will create 10,000 garment assembly jobs in Haiti. Without a doubt, earthquake-ravaged Haiti needs jobs, mainly to provide the country's 1.3 million homeless with the means necessary to rebuild their destroyed homes.

While little progress has been made on Haiti's immense housing needs since the January 12 earthquake, Clinton assured the investing public that factory development was moving full steam ahead. These 10,000 jobs, she assured critics "are not just any jobs. These are good jobs with fair pay that adhere to international labor standards, . . . Haiti is open for business again."

Well, sure; at a $3.09 daily minimum wage (upped later to $5, but almost no one actually gets paid at that rate), what's not to love?

"When pressed about the lack of progress made in the (housing) rebuilding efforts, including inabilities to provide shelter, Secretary of State Clinton said "Those who expect progress immediately are unrealistic and doing a disservice to the many people who are working so hard."

Bill Clinton, UN Special Envoy to Haiti, has been equally optimistic about Haiti's cheap labor prospects, especially since the passing of the Haitian Economic Lift Program (HELP) in May. The bill would increase the amount of Haitian assembled goods that could be imported into the United States duty free. "This important step," Clinton said, "responds to the needs of the Haitian people for more tools to lift themselves from poverty, while standing to benefit U.S. consumers."

But my, oh, my; the Big Dog loves high-end resort tourism, too. The Marriott opening was well-attended by toffs, including Senn Penn, as I remember it.

[Dec 21, 2020] We have a system of "neo-feudalism" in which all of us and our national governments are enslaved to debt.

Dec 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

psychohistorian , Dec 20 2020 0:51 utc | 32

@ uncle tungsten #24 with the appreciated link containing this quote
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A former insider at the World Bank, ex-Senior Counsel Karen Hudes, says the global financial system is dominated by a small group of corrupt, power-hungry figures centered around the privately owned U.S. Federal Reserve.
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The posting ends with this quote

"We have a system of "neo-feudalism" in which all of us and our national governments are enslaved to debt. This system is governed by the central banks and by the Bank for International Settlements, and it systematically transfers the wealth of the world out of our hands and into the hands of the global elite.

But most people have no idea that any of this is happening because the global elite also control what we see, hear and think about. Today, there are just six giant media corporations that control more than 90 percent of the news and entertainment that you watch on your television in the United States."

What an ugly way to run a society. Moving society to public finance and abolishing private finance is what is needed to save our species and what we can of the world we live in. I am with China in advocating for Ad Astra because we can see the end of our ability to live on this planet because of historical faith-based disrespect of it.

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Mr. psychohistorian

No we are not dealing with the analogue of the feudalism of Western Europe, with its interlocking panoply of mutual obligations that was built around God.

No, we are witnessing the re-birth of the Asiatic mode of production in the Euro-American countries as the absence of manufacturing production makes itself felt. To wit, like South American countries, one sees the emergence of two classes, Masters and their Service Servants (needed for performing all manner of useful but tedious manual service labor, from dog-walkers to barbers to cooks...)

Significantly, as Americans, French, English and many others sold their jobs to Mexico, China, Korea, Singapore, and Japan, it was precisely those countries that were given an extra shot in the arm for breaking from the chains of the Asiatic Mode of Production.

It is particularly interesting that in America, the long-hair guy driving a 50-dollar Chevy, is supporting Republicans, who have no better future for him than being a servant to Financiers.

[Dec 21, 2020] Justice as a very high minded simplicity

Dec 21, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org

What Lurks Beneath the Contrarian Perspective? BY ELLIOTT MILLER

In Plato's legendary tome, Republic, Thrasymachus, responding to Socrates' question as to whether or not he feels justice is a vice, emphatically asserts: "No, just very high minded simplicity." Republic was written way back in 375 BC, but unfortunately "high minded simplicity" is alive and well in the intellectually ignominious year of 2020.

[Dec 21, 2020] A epidemic of 'Russian Hacking'

Dec 21, 2020 | consortiumnews.com

DH Fabian , December 21, 2020 at 09:39

Maybe we could launch a fund-raising campaign to purchase some anti-malware software for the government's (obviously unsecured) computers. If possible, we could raise enough money to hire a teacher to instruct them on basic computer security. (Thrifty suggestion: Hire some local high school teens).

Apparently, some kids in Russia made a hobby of hacking into the Pentagon, itself (I know this, because I just made it up), so on Monday, we need to launch this story on MSNBC, the official media of the New Democrat Party.

[Dec 21, 2020] Do you work for Pfizer?

Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

randocalrissian 5 hours ago

I've already killed 236 Christians since the election. What are you up to in your body count?

BigJim 2 hours ago

Do you work for Pfizer?

[Dec 21, 2020] Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who voted for President Donald Trump's deficit-exploding tax cuts for the rich in 2017, blocked fellow Republican Sen. Josh Hawley's attempt Friday to pass legislation that would provide $1,200 direct payments to U.S. adults and $500 to children amid a devastating pandemic and ongoing economic collapse

Dec 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 1:52pm Isn't funny how ONLY republicans do this?

Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who voted for President Donald Trump's deficit-exploding tax cuts for the rich in 2017, blocked fellow Republican Sen. Josh Hawley's attempt Friday to pass legislation that would provide $1,200 direct payments to U.S. adults and $500 to children amid a devastating pandemic and ongoing economic collapse.

So Hawley the next move is yours. You now BLOCK this turd from passing and if you need help with it tell Bernie to stand with you. This kabuki BS has been exposed for what it is. A ploy that apparently on the GOP can use to make sure nothing gets passed that helps the working class. I see so many folks only blaming the GoP or more McConnell for what's happening, but remember Pelosi could have said OK on the bill and put the pressure on Mitch. SHE is now OK with a much smaller bill after saying that $2.2 TRILLION didn;t go far enough. I see through you too you old bat. Just sick that everyone can't see through their lies and games they play with OUR lives. up 9 users have voted. --

"Restoring the soul of this nation" is just MAGA with more words

Twitter is like a game of telephone

[Dec 21, 2020] Attorney General yet to come. Will Biden and obomba choose... Hellary?

Dec 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Submitted by wendy davis on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 11:33am

biden seems to have added:

Pete Buttigieg as Secretary of transportation, Laguna Pueblo Rep. Deb Haaland (D-N.M.) as Interior Secretary, former EPA head Gina McCarthy as climate czar (what happened to Kerry?), Katherine Tai, Nominee for United States Trade Representative, Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm to serve as secretary of energy, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, MD, and of course we knew DecDef Lloyd 'Rayethon' Austin already.

lots of diversity, as promised! wasn't andrew yang appointed to some post?

Attorney General yet to come. Will he and obomba choose... Hellary?

on edit : arrrrgh! i'd forgotten he/they'd nominated Tom 'Mr. Monsanto/dicamba' Vilsack, Secretary of Agriculture. boy howdy: feed the nation with round-up ready GMO foods!

Submitted by wendy davis on Fri, 12/18/2020 - 4:45pm my guess is that the 2

@Shahryar

US 'papers of record (WaPo and CIA Times) will cover nicely for biden/camel/obomba rule. we'll see how the alternative indy press does, won't we? up

[Dec 21, 2020] That's what I would put on the USA's grave as an epitaph.

Dec 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Dec 21 2020 17:58 utc | 116

US War Machine Masquerading as Country

Didn't read, just agree with the headline. That's what I would put on the USA's grave as an epitaph.

[Dec 21, 2020] The US war against anything Russian is never ending

Dec 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Norwegian , Dec 21 2020 9:20 utc | 80

The US war against anything Russian is never ending
The Doping Scandal Against Russia Explained (ft Dmitry Babich)

[Dec 20, 2020] I love America and its non-stop CIA psyop cyclops social media television.

Dec 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

JohnHellHood 3 hours ago

I love America and its non-stop CIA psyop cyclops social media television.

The New Year will bring renewed police crackdown on private assembly, people's homes, the continued destruction of employment, $40 checks from Uncle Joe to "tide you over," hysterical harpies physically assaulting anyone without a mask in blue states, and a full-out propaganda assault to destroy the defenseless minds of your friends and family.

You're going to lose a lot in the New Year. 2020 was just the beginning. Wait until summer 2021 and BLM/Antifa chaos. Conservative politicians like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul will be crying "insurrection act!" and Tucker Carlson will launch into Season Two of 30-minute cracking-voice monologues "this is your America!" while nothing and no one does a goddamn thing to protect you.

We are on our own. Doctors, schools, cops, families, people you work with -- all are slowly being sucked into the vortex of this simulacrum of hell being broadcast on their "smart" phones. Compared to what's being sold to them, your voice sounds positively insane...

[Dec 20, 2020] American political theater is funny in a bleak way, now the republicans are trying to reclaim mccarthyism from the democrats; instead of russia cubed it's china cubed.

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
american political theater is funny in a bleak way, now the republicans are trying to reclaim mccarthyism from the democrats; instead of russia cubed it's china cubed. maybe they felt they were victims of cultural appropriation.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 19 2020 13:45 utc | 42

librul , Dec 19 2020 14:09 utc | 43

How do you spell d.i.v.e.r.s.i.o.n.a.r.y tactic.

This most recent "attack by Russia" has helped push the 9/11 sized attack upon our Constitution
off the front pages.

How many times can they play the same diversionary trick and have it work?
Every time?

[Dec 20, 2020] In 2012 Kaspersky Russian Virus Lab detected, decrypted a unknown computer Virus which is now named the Flame Virus

Dec 20, 2020 | www.rt.com

A. Smith 23 hours ago 19 Dec, 2020 02:55 PM

In 2012 Kaspersky Russian Virus Lab detected, decrypted a unknown computer Virus which is now named the Flame Virus. It had been written by the CIA, Mossad and used a compromised Windows updater server to infect Windows servers globally. Kaspersky alerted the World to this threat. The US Gov then went all-out to punish Kaspersky AV Lab forbidding them from US Gov contracts.
A. Smith 23 hours ago 19 Dec, 2020 02:49 PM
In 2012 didn't the CIA,Mossad create the Flame computer virus using a Windows update server to globally infect Windows servers? Wasn't Obama and Joe Biden in Office and ordered it under the guise of attacking Iran? Its still infecting computers across US with backdoors. Now the same folks are blaming Russia for a similar act 8 years later?

[Dec 20, 2020] Caitlin Johnstone- Secret, invisible evidence of Russian hacking is not actually evidence by Caitlin Johnstone

Dec 18, 2020 | www.rt.com

By Caitlin Johnstone , an independent journalist based in Melbourne, Australia. Her website is here and you can follow her on Twitter @caitoz

We've landed in a world where diplomacy, sanctions, even war can be decided by mere claims, and evidence is optional. Yet those proudly displaying the badge of 'public trust' are the worst of the serial, politically-driven liars.

The Communist Party of China has been covertly sending arms to extremist Antifa militants in the United States in preparation for the civil war which is expected to take place after Joe Biden declares himself President for Life and institutes a Marxist dictatorship. The weapons shipments include rocket launchers, directed energy weapons, nunchucks and ninja throwing stars.

Unfortunately I cannot provide evidence for this shocking revelation as doing so would compromise my sources and methods, but trust me it's definitely true and must be acted upon immediately. I recommend President Trump declare martial law without a moment's hesitation and begin planning a military response to these Chinese aggressions.

How does this make you feel? Was your first impulse to begin scanning for evidence of the incendiary claim I made in my opening paragraph?

It would be perfectly reasonable if it was. I am, after all, some random person on the internet whom you have probably never met, and you've no reason to accept any bold claim I might make on blind faith. It would make sense for you to want to see some verification of my claim, and then dismiss my claim as baseless hogwash when I failed to provide that verification.

If you're a more regular reader, it would have also been reasonable for you to guess that I was doing a bit. But imagine if I wasn't? Imagine if I really was claiming that the Chinese government is arming Antifa ninja warriors to kill patriotic Americans in the coming Biden Wars. How crazy would you have to be to believe what I was saying without my providing hard, verifiable evidence for my claims?

Now imagine further that this is something I've made false claims about many times in the past. If every few years I make a new claim about some naughty government arming Antifa super soldiers in a great communist uprising, which turns out later to have been bogus.

Well you'd dismiss me as a crackpot, wouldn't you? I wouldn't blame you. That would be the only reasonable response to such a ridiculous spectacle.

And yet if I were an employee of a US government agency making unproven incendiary claims about a government that isn't aligned with the US-centralized power alliance, the entire political/media class would be parroting what I said as though it's an established fact. Even though US government agencies have an extensive and well-documented history of lying about such things.

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Today we're all expected to be freaking out about Russia again because Russia hacked the United States again right before a new president took office again, so now it's very important that we support new cold war escalations from both the outgoing president and the incoming president again. We're not allowed to see the evidence that this actually happened again, but it's of utmost importance that we trust and support new aggressions against Russia anyway. Again.

The New York Times has a viral op-ed going around titled "I Was the Homeland Security Adviser to Trump. We're Being Hacked. " The article's author Thomas P Bossert warns ominously that "the networks of the federal government and much of corporate America are compromised by a foreign nation" perpetrated by "the Russian intelligence agency known as the S.V.R., whose tradecraft is among the most advanced in the world."

Rather than using its supreme tradecraft to interfere in the November election ensuring the victory of the president we've been told for years is a Russian asset by outlets like The New York Times , Bossert informs us that the SVR instead opted to hack a private American IT company called SolarWinds whose software is widely used by the US government.

"Unsuspecting customers then downloaded a corrupted version of the software, which included a hidden back door that gave hackers access to the victim's network," Bossert explains, saying that "The magnitude of this ongoing attack is hard to overstate." Its magnitude is so great that Bossert says Trump must "severely punish the Russians" for perpetrating it, and cooperate with the incoming Biden team in helping to ensure that that punishment continues seamlessly between administrations.

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The problem is that, as usual, we've been given exactly zero evidence for any of this. As Moon of Alabama explains , the only technical analysis we've seen of the alleged hack (courtesy of cybersecurity firm FireEye) makes no claim that Russia was responsible for it, yet the mass media are flagrantly asserting as objective, verified fact that Russia is behind this far-reaching intrusion into US government networks, citing only anonymous sources if they cite anything at all.

And of course where the media class goes so too does the barely-separate political class. Democratic Senator Dick Durbin told CNN in a recent interview that this invisible, completely unproven cyberattack constitutes "virtually a declaration of war by Russia on the United States." Which is always soothing language to hear as the Russian government announces the development of new hypersonic missiles as part of a new nuclear arms race it attributes to US cold war escalations.

Journalist Glenn Greenwald is one of the few high-profile voices who've had the temerity to stick his head above the parapet and point out the fact that we have seen exactly zero evidence for these incendiary claims, for which he is of course currently being raked over the coals on Twitter.

"I know it doesn't matter. I know it's wrong to ask the question. I know asking the question raises grave doubts about one's loyalties and patriotism," Greenwald sarcastically tweeted . "But has there been any evidence publicly presented, let alone dispositive proof, that Russia is responsible for this hack?"

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"Perhaps they have information sources they can't describe without compromising sources and methods?" chimed in Ars Technica 's Timothy B Lee in response to Greenwald's query, a textbook reply from establishment narrative managers whenever anyone questions where the evidence is for any of these invisible attacks on US sovereignty.

"Of course they can't show us the evidence!" proponents of establishment Russia hysteria always say. "They'd compromise their sources and methods if they did!"

US spook agencies always say this about evidence for US spook agency claims about governments long targeted for destruction by US spook agencies. We can't share the evidence with you because the evidence is classified. It's secret evidence. The evidence is invisible.

Which always works out very nicely for the US spook agencies, I must say.

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Secret, invisible evidence is not evidence. If the public cannot see the evidence behind the claims being made by the powerful, then those claims are unproven. It would never be acceptable for anyone in power to say "This important thing with potentially world-altering consequences definitely happened, but you'll just have to trust us because the evidence is secret." In a post-Iraq invasion world it is orders of magnitude more unacceptable, and should therefore be dismissed until hard, verifiable evidence is provided.

Isn't it interesting how all the Pearl Harbors and 9/11s of our day are completely invisible to the public? We can't see cyber-intrusions for ourselves like we could see fallen buildings and smoking naval bases; they're entirely hidden from our view. Not only are they entirely hidden from our view, the evidence that they happened is kept secret from us as well. And the mass media just treat this as normal and fine. Government agencies with an extensive history of lying are allowed to make completely unsubstantiated and unverifiable claims about governments long targeted by those same government agencies, and the institutions responsible for informing the public about what's going on in the world simply repeat it as fact.

Sure it's possible that Russia hacked the US. It's possible that the US government has been in contact with extraterrestrials, too. It's possible that the Chinese government is covertly arming Antifa samurai in preparation for a civil war. But we do not imbue these things with the power of belief until we are provided with an amount of evidence that rises to the level required in a post-Iraq invasion world.

These people have not earned our trust, they have earned our pointed and aggressive skepticism. We must act accordingly.

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Midnight10 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 03:03 PM

The US isn't know mm for its independent thought processes. The "secret, invisible evidence" comes right out of WADA's planbook for banning Russian athletes from the Olympics, by their use of "disappearing positives". It would be a mistake to consider the Pentagon any smarter then the WADA Committee. Remember Lance Armstrong was allowed to continue for seven years without a peep from WADA, or CAS, or the US doping agency. Not a peep. Must have used magic, like the Pentagon and WADA does now.
Frank Hood Midnight10 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 05:05 PM
Its astounding that U.S ath letes using ster.oids of some sort are not under the same rules as Rus sian athletes. To ex clude many of the worlds best and still continue to compete
Vikiiing Midnight10 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 04:36 PM
Armstrong was cuaght doping during his first tour win, twice! UCI and other clowns bought Drugstrongs excuse. And I mean bought 2 years later Dopestrong secretly gave the UCI over $100,000 for fighting doping....And dont forget Armstrong stole money intended for his charity....I'm sure he's waiting for an appropriate time to give it back....
Bill Spence 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 03:09 PM
Stealing a few secrets by hacking into US networks is very minor compared to the acts of war that the United States has committed against Iran Russia China and North Korea. The whole thing is boring because nothing was damaged according to the claims. Show me some damage or be silent.
Frank Hood Bill Spence 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 05:23 PM
Even if it is minor, proof would be nice. The people are just starting to question what we have been told for decades. Mind you Assange actually provided proof for all of us,but regardless the world still ignored the provided proof. Allegations are the name of the game, and a good enough reason to continue pressure on certain countries in the form of physical and economic war since WW2. BUT, "times are a changin" folks.
MotorSlug Bill Spence 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 03:18 PM
thanks to Vault 7 and Wikileaks, we know 99% of the shots are taken by the CIA
EarthBotV2 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 03:38 PM
Here's the question well-programmed Americans never think to ask: Who gains? A coup has occurred in the U.S.. The evidence of fraud is overwhelming. How do the coup perpetrators plan to dispose of this evidence? -- by blaming Russia! We'll be told that Russia manufactured the evidence, just as we were told that Russia manufactured Hunter Biden's laptop. And those who attempt to prosecute the fraudsters will be called "Russian Agents".
shadow1369 1 day ago 19 Dec, 2020 12:13 PM
Wikileaks Vault 77 disclosures revealed that US terrorist intelligence agencies can make a hack look like it coes from wherever they choose. Even before that, and the ease with which CGI can make dead people talk, we were living in an entirely fake paradigm created by corporate media.
DeathbyDissent 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 06:30 PM
If anyone doubts that the US would use this evidence-free false-flag as a pretext for attacking Russia, just go to Youtube and search Russian, Hack, Bolton. There, you will see John Bolton on MSNBC saying the US should "retaliate" in a many-fold worse way. Bolton is a representative of the deep state in the US; he is a neocon, and neocons have driven our foreign policy for over 20 years.
DeathbyDissent 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 05:34 PM
Whenever the US wants to commit crimes against other countries, it manufactures the reasons for doing so. it's been doing this for many decades. This "hack" is nothing more than a pretext for 1) demonizing Russia, and 2) advancing a foreign policy action in opposition to Russia. If you don't know that the United States is the main purveyor of lies in the world by now, you need a giant red pill.
Twills93 DeathbyDissent 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 05:43 PM
How many lies is too many?
Forgotten9 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 05:01 PM
2020 should go into genius records as the largest coincidental (propagated proxi) in the history of the world
Forgotten9 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 04:57 PM
The greatest question is why has the left administration lied, covered up, misinforming the american people of their global military actions? PROXI wars? Misuse of NATO assets for EU and personal gains... Allied with Xi Jinping , striking chinese assets to stimulate the cultural uprising that put Xi into power in 2012, turning full socialist communist in 2013, deploying a centralized military power to enforce the territory display in the new map of china presented December 2012, and full gov backed boycott of western goods, transitioned to cut trade fully with the western conventional allies china allowed its economy to fully contract... all covered up by liberal media and made public in their US conservative opponent's administration..
Forgotten9 1 day ago 18 Dec, 2020 03:53 PM
Did the EU push NATO integration of such technologies making NATO suspect?

[Dec 20, 2020] The Soviet Union went into it's twilight years under a gerontocracy. Give the USA eight more years

The shadow of Konstantin Chernenko descents over Biden administration...
Dec 20, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Wilbtube , 1 month ago

The Soviet Union went into it's twilight years under a gerontocracy. Give it 8 more years, and the USA will have fallen. (If history repeats, that is, as it usually does)

Timbot2002 , 1 month ago

I remember back in 80's when we mocked the Soviets for their elderly leadership that kept dying a few months after being appointed to office until Gorbachev showed up.

Eli Kuculyn , 1 month ago

At minutes 9:50 - 10:01 of this video, well said Krystal!

[Dec 20, 2020] Never expect solutions for problems from the people who created them

Dec 20, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Richard Durocher , 1 month ago

Never expect solutions for problems from the people who created them.


Youssef Hamidi
, 1 month ago

Three 80+ year olds holding some of the hghest positions and running the country...what could possibly go wrong?


aguy ghow
, 1 month ago

I have worked with Dementia and Alzheimer's patients for the past ten years, "on a daily basis," .. and yes, I see things that scare me.

Richard Rust , 1 month ago

It's not ageism if it's true. I'm a senior citizen and even i can see these people are too old and set in their ways to enact legislation that changes anything for the benefit of the people. They'll cling to their positions of power until they die and decay on their thrones.


Brian
, 1 month ago

If you take a look at that chart, you'll see that the oldest committee chairman is in charge of the science, space, and technology committee at the bright young age of 84, nearly 85. The political class hate the people.


Lisa Tiberi
, 1 month ago

'Gridlock is its own partisan consensus. A gridlock system protects the powerful.' That is so sadly true.


jmorris023
, 1 month ago

It is an interesting observation, especially when you look to other western countries and their leaders are a good 30 years younger than ours. I think there's something to be said for a politician needing to live in the world they create post-service. Biden and Trump don't really care because they're time here is short compared to someone like Macron or Trudeau.


Tom Hancock
, 1 month ago

We had two young people with courage and a fresh perspective running for president, of course the powers that be would have none of that so Gabbard and Yang were shut out. More of the same coming our way.


MrDadyD
, 1 month ago

US is turning more and more into USSR under Leonid Brezhnev... Just an old guard of ppl that dies amd hand over power to another old guard, and so the cycle continues


Alex Allen
, 1 month ago

What did George Carlin say about "bipartisanship?"


CaptZepplin
, 1 month ago (edited)

All the geriatric "leaders" have only one plan: Our generations will not take responsibility or pay for our self-enriching decisions that have left the earth in crisis after crisis. And our corporate friends who are essentially our bank accounts would pay either. Finally, someones recognizing what's really happening. Its not Dems vs GOP. Its old politicians vs the needs of the many


Paul Page
, 1 month ago

Jacque Fresco: "Politicians are not elected into public office to change things. They're put into public office to keep things the way they are".


Avatar Mike Phantom
, 1 month ago

If 35 is the youngest you can be to run for president, should we cap out at 70? The first 6 presidents served between the ages of 57-66.

thenet0120002 , 1 day ago

These people many [of them] globalists are heavily financed by foreign powers that drives these engines. Add in unions everywhere that is why they are there and stay there. Look at the mechanics of why they hold power and cannot be removed then bypass them to bring this mess down. This is a money game !


Nicholas Stauffer
, 5 days ago

"Gridlock is the bipartisan consensus" is maybe one of the most simple, yet most brilliant ways to explain American politics today.


Kyle Sanders
, 14 hours ago

All elected officials are suppose to have term limits it is the entire reason that we have elections and not one of those terms say 10,20,30,40,or50 years so any person that has been in our government pass the term limits has been breaking the rules and cheating to do it which means they have been rigging our elections for a very long time and the american people have been asleep at the wheel and allowing them to do it because we have been completely lied to by every single elected official that is and has been in our government not even one of them has ever kept their word or their promises to the american people but every single one of them has gotten rich are richer off of stealing the american people's hard earned tax money all while making laws and regulations for them to take more and more of what we had to pay on top of everything else our own government criminals in the government swamp has been doing to their own people because of the simple fact that the american people have been asleep at the wheel and allowing them to get away with it for so long that none of them even had a clue that if Hillary Clinton would have won their wouldn't even be an America anymore much less rights or freedoms God and his chosen one DONALD J TRUMP is saving and sparing the united States of america one last time key words one last time

[Dec 20, 2020] Et tu, Brutus?

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Dec 19 2020 13:39 utc | 40

Et tu, Brutus?

Pompeo Claims Russia is 'Pretty Clearly' Behind Major Hack Attack on US

[Dec 20, 2020] The corporate mass media is fully onboard with the coup. With Trump removed from the giant soapbox that the presidency provides then there will be no nucleus for the opposition to the neoliberalism to condense around, and the social media discourse can be buttoned down.

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Dec 17 2020 17:15 utc | 19

Norwegian @7: "Perhaps someone in the US can offer their perspective on how the present situation can be resolved peacefully."

The plan is actually fairly straightforward. The corporate mass media is fully onboard with the coup, with even presumptive pro-Trump organizations like FOX not willing to challenge it. Alphabet/Google, Facebook, and Twitter gatekeep the vast majority of social media in the US. All of these are pro-coup. With Trump removed from the giant soapbox that the presidency provides then there will be no nucleus for the opposition to the establishment to condense around, and the social media discourse can be buttoned down. In this environment any challenges to the narratives that the establishment is trying to establish as canon du jour can be dismissed as the rantings of a tiny and insignificant but terribly evil fringe minority and ruthlessly purged from the national discourse.

With opposition silenced the establishment (in big business and not just government) will ramp up efforts to "reprogram" the population by embedding the themes and perspectives that they are pushing in all mass media. The vector for delivering this "reprogramming" will primarily be entertainment (movies, TV serials, sports) and education (directly dictating acceptable perspectives). Using these tools the elites will impose their chosen norms of behavior on the population.

The elite's plan is intensely divisive. The faux left who have already largely internalized this reprogramming are only united by a kind of common self-pity over their socially atomized personal isolation. They are socially powerless and easily remote-controlled by mass media suggestions and professional social media "influencers" . With the "deplorables" likewise socially atomized then the threat of any organized opposition to the power elite evaporates. No civil war.

That's the plan anyway. Whether the "deplorables" will roll over and take it is another matter that remains to be seen.


Norwegian , Dec 17 2020 17:47 utc | 23

@William Gruff | Dec 17 2020 17:15 utc | 19
What you describe is the implementation of tyranny, I would not call it peaceful resolution. But you are probably right about the intentions. I hope they fail like many plans in face of reality.

William Gruff , Dec 17 2020 18:02 utc | 25

Norwegian @23: "I hope they fail like many plans in face of reality."

The fact that their plans have been failing and backfiring spectacularly these last several years is very encouraging.

[Dec 20, 2020] Another 'Russiagate' Like Trump Scandal Which Isn't One

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Haassaan , Dec 19 2020 0:48 utc | 20

Yes, this RussiaGate story will flame out, just like all the rest, but ultimately these stories aren't about Trump, but about setting the stage for the Biden Administration to attack Russia. It doesn't matter that they are all lies, what matters is that the big pile of lies as a whole creates a false reality in which anti-Russian propaganda is so overwhelming that nobody in the west can see outside of the delusion.


norecovery , Dec 19 2020 1:51 utc | 22

The neocon criminals have managed to take over foreign policy in the U.S., leveraging money power from their bankster backers. The latter is a tiny group of oligarchs and their network of highly-paid promoters that are motivated to force U.S. hegemony onto the world. They now have control over the U.S. Congress, Intelligence Agencies, and the MSM, and are increasingly exerting censorship over social media. Their latest gambit is the Coronavirus putsch using bio-warfare agents to undermine small-scale economies and autonomy, while imposing vast corporate ownership of property. Worldwide compliance is the goal using a wide range of military, financial, and media control measures to crush dissent. The pharma-promoted vaccinations that are questionable at best reinforce those controls and are part of the plot. We are witnessing a worldwide COUPS ATTEMPT, UBER-Fascism that exceeds all historical examples. Will it succeed?

Stumpy , Dec 19 2020 3:32 utc | 29

Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 19 2020 2:44 utc | 27

"The dems biden gang would have been pulling similar stunts although they would have been asking for future favours hence the 'new' cabinet being chocka with K street whores."

Was the position of Secretary of State just a consolation prize for HRC as runner-up to the Obama race or the quid pro quo to enable her foundation to rake in millions in "favour funding" that quietly disappeared into the fog?

ak74 , Dec 19 2020 4:59 utc | 32

"Yes, he killed foreigners. But no U.S. president will ever be indicted for that. It is seen as a part of the job."

Yes, committing war crimes and "crimes against peace"--the supreme international crime as asserted by the Nuremberg Tribunal--is fundamental to the job description of being America's War-Criminal-in-Chief.

The fact that Americans and citizens in other self-styled "democracies" deny this uncomfortable reality, or support these war crimes, says a lot about their own criminality.

[Dec 20, 2020] Our politicians blow over a trillion dollars a year on US "security" and they can't figure out a way to keep hackers off of our hard drives?

How they can? They are too busy deploying Dominion voting systems all over the country...
Dec 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Censored1 2 hours ago

Our politicians blow over a trillion dollars a year on US "security" and they can't figure out a way to keep hackers off of our hard drives? This shows you the quality of the overpaid clowns in charge of our government. Now we can't even run an election fair and square and are in the same class as El Salvador, maybe worse.

captain noob 2 hours ago

The problem with money is that it doesn't necessarily buy you things of value

4Y_LURKER 2 hours ago

All some people see is a dollar amount

[Dec 20, 2020] Once the general attitude of disreputability has been established the secret services can sit back and relax really, the antirussian mindset gets a momentum of its own and generates its own new antirussian storylines.

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Bemildred , Dec 17 2020 22:45 utc | 94

Further news on hacking attacks:

'They got into everything': Scale, threat of cyberattack on U.S. increasingly alarming

'The Iranians Are Waiting for the Israeli Response': Who Is Behind the Latest Cyberattack on Israeli Firms?

Apparently one of the apps which spreads the trojan is "New York Times News".

We will have to see how this develops, but from the "early reports" I am starting to be impressed.


windship , Dec 18 2020 8:11 utc | 95

If the Israelis spent all that time and energy to make 9/11 look like an al Qaeda plot, then it's a piece of cake to make this hack look like the work of Russians.
Tuyzentfloot , Dec 18 2020 8:28 utc | 96

I see no effort to make this hack look like a russian plot. It looks more organic. Once the general attitude of disreputability has been established the secret services can sit back and relax really, the antirussian mindset gets a momentum of its own and generates its own new antirussian storylines.

Tuyzentfloot , Dec 18 2020 15:36 utc | 97

Oh, microsoft boss talks about reckless hacking. That actually suggests the country which cannot be named or punished instead.

[Dec 20, 2020] Trump Blasts Exaggerated Media Claims Of -Russia, Russia, Russia- In Cyberattack After Seeing Intel - ZeroHedge

Dec 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Sean7k PREMIUM 3 hours ago

I want to know why we aren't hiring the Russians for everything? They appear to be the best, whether military equipment, spycraft, hacking, diplomacy, or global strategy. All we have are butthurt bureaucrats, gay entertainers and loudmouthed athletes always eager to bend a knee.

radical-extremist 3 hours ago

They were the best at honeypots too, until Swallwell fell for Fang Fang.

Dabooda 2 hours ago

Epstein and Mossad would be the gold standard for honeypots.

PrideOfMammon 2 hours ago

As I said, if Putin ran in a fair election in the USA, he would win hands down.

[Dec 20, 2020] Watching the Biden neoliberal clown cart reality show: A strong drink could assist or the periodic break out for a prayer.

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Dec 19 2020 4:53 utc | 134

Here is a Katie Halper / Briahna Joy Gray peek into the Biden clown cart reality. Just as we could tell from the Trumpsters idiotic anecdotes and asides in the campaign and before inauguration, so we can tell from this leaked video about what life in the Biden White House will be like.

This 50 minute video is well worth the look or take a slice or two and savor. A strong drink could assist or the periodic break out for a prayer.

Framarz , Dec 19 2020 9:14 utc | 142

@114 uncle tungsten

Thanks for the redfish video suggestion. Worth watching not only to get insight about the current developments in India but also understanding the global Zeitgeist.

I couldn't avoid to identify the exact same type of developments and problems that working class and increasingly also middle class facing in other parts of the world.

The globalization of capitalism since the fall of USSR and Warsaw pact, has caused accelerated monopolization of political and economic power everywhere in the world, this was achieved by enforcing the same neoliberal agenda globally. No matter if you look at the USA, Germany, Iran or India, you discover the same type of "reforms". Reforms that result in increased poverty, more and more middle class families are losing their socioeconomic position and becoming part of working class.

One come to the understanding that the "Great Reset" we are talking about recently, is not something new in the beginning and making, it's only the continuation of an agenda which has been in implementation since 30 years ago.

[Dec 20, 2020] Three laptops and zero action

Dec 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


1 hour ago remove link

  1. Weiner's laptop

  2. Hunter's laptop

  3. And now Seth Rich's laptop

Consent of the governed is the definition of legitimate authority. Kleptocrats spent decades abusing us with corruption, violence and theft.

Now they stand 'stunned' at the giant middle fingers and weapons pointed at them.

I think the interwebz are not long for this Earth, but we can thank the infowarriors of this period for helping many (hundreds of millions worldwide) understand that the core of the globalist power structure is NOTHING but criminal syndicate bosses of the worst possible kind.

Those domestic servants of these globalist slave traffickers, and their pets in the DNC/never-Trumper/Deep State mob, are rank imbeciles, evil hollow souls, and deserve no quarter, no discussion, and no influence of any kind, ever again.

[Dec 20, 2020] One positive thing about Pompeo

Dec 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Deep Snorkeler 2 hours ago

Pompeo

an unrestrained sociopathic criminal

producer of snort-inducing lies

without a shred of decency, integrity

pathetic, incompetent and cringe-inducing


9 play_arrow 4
NIRP-BTFD 2 hours ago (Edited)

pathetic, incompetent and cringe-inducing

He knows how to eat though

[Dec 20, 2020] "Lock him up!" It's amazing how often the two political camps in the USA are mirror images of each other.

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

m , Dec 19 2020 5:49 utc | 33

"Lock him up!" It's amazing how often the two political camps in the USA are mirror images of each other.

[Dec 20, 2020] Putin: Haven't we faced difficulties in our recent history? Just now, in this meeting I remembered how hard life was in the 1990s and the early 2000s. It seemed at that time that there was no light at the end of the tunnel, that there was nothing. No army, no economy, a ruined social sphere and skyrocketing unemployment. One out of three lived below the poverty line, but look at what it is like now.

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Dec 19 2020 19:28 utc | 154

james @128--

Putin's presser transcript is finally complete.

As Putin and others noted, this was a most difficult year. I hadn't read his concluding remarks until just now. I'm going to copy/paste them along with the question that sparked them. And it most unequivocally answers a longstanding question Billy Joel asked at a time that seems like it was only yesterday:

"Viktor Sineok: Izvestia, Viktor Sineok.

"Mr President, we have heard many questions about many different problems but mine is a little different. Over the past year we have understood, we really felt what it meant to have a very hard time, including emotionally. You said at the press conference a few years ago that you put your emotions into your work. Here is my question: what sort of emotions have you felt in recent years, including this difficult year of 2020? And which emotions would you like to wish us in the coming year? Maybe you already know how you will toast the New Year?

"Vladimir Putin: Please, be seated.

"As to which prevailed – the good or the bad You know, each year brings issues we have to overcome, and each year brings us great joy – both family, and state, national achievements. Against all odds, we have great achievements that we can and should be proud of, and we are.

"Yes, the year was complicated, but what would I like to draw your attention to? You know, this is what I thought about when you were asking me this question. Haven't we faced difficulties in our recent history? Just now, in this meeting I remembered how hard life was in the 1990s and the early 2000s. It seemed at that time that there was no light at the end of the tunnel, that there was nothing. No army, no economy, a ruined social sphere and skyrocketing unemployment. One out of three lived below the poverty line, but look at what it is like now.

"Yes, there are problems. Yes, people are still living a very hard life, and there are very many such people. That said, the foundations of Russian statehood, the pillars of the Russian economy, and the potential of the state are incomparable with what they were in the 1990s and the early 2000s. This gives us tools we have never had before. This gives us an opportunity to focus on resolving the most important, most urgent problems without forgetting about the strategic development goals of the Russian Federation .

"As for toasts, like every person, every citizen, I always have toasts for the New Year. It is only important that the amount of champagne and other drinks you consume is limited. As for toasts, the number does not matter.

"Of course, we will all raise toasts to the people in our lives, our family, friends and colleagues. But I, my family and friends always have one main toast – 'To Russia.'

"Not to finish my remarks on this pathetic note but on something heart-felt, I would like to say the following: during this meeting, some of my colleagues asked me what we were planning to do to support families with children and whether we have plans for this. This is what I would like to say. Some volunteers told me recently that they have various ideas and initiatives on supporting children before the New Year. Unfortunately, this year large events like children's New Year parties have been cancelled due to the restrictions. Large events in theatres, children's studios and so on have been cancelled as well.

"But still, this is an unusual holiday. It comes with expectations and hopes for the future and, at the same time, with difficulties. Therefore, before coming here I consulted the Government and the Presidential Executive Office. We agreed that our country, our state will also give a gift to our children. It is a small, modest gift, but nevertheless, we will pay 5,000 rubles to all families with children under 7 years old; 5,000 will be paid for every child in this age group .

"I would like to thank all of you for our common work. I would also like to wish you all the best. I hope we have not worn each other out. I would like to hope that the people who listened to us for more than four hours, for four and a half hours, have found this useful and interesting.

"For my part, I would like to say that the meeting was very useful for me. We will do all we can to give the best possible response to all your questions, concerns and problems that are faced by the country and each Russian family.

"All the best to you!

"Thank you very much." [My Emphasis]

We now most certainly know that the Russians Love Their Children Too. However given the behavior of the Outlaw US Empire, I very much doubt the same can be said, which makes for a very dangerous situation. Putin has a truthful sincerity to him that is utterly vacant from every US President I've known in my life except for JFK--he made a very positive impression on my very young mind, something that was clearly missing from LBJ and Nixon prior to my rather abrupt awakening in 1970. Perhaps that's because none ever promised to do anything for Commonfolk as anything aimed at promoting the people's wellbeing was always opposed. I don't know how the average Russian feels about Putin's words, but I would be very proud to have such a leader as focused on the wellbeing of what makes his Nation great--its people.

[Dec 20, 2020] The western intelligence agencies systematic attempts to undermine the legitimacy of Russian government by fueling wild rumor about the level of corruption of its members, and first of all Putin

Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Dec 18 2020 23:39 utc | 118

the main point should be that Putin is able to talk at length and just about any subject since it is very hard to think of a pre arranged setup à la 2016 debate when the questions to be posed had been previously provided to the Clinton team. Putin on western intelligence agiances attempts to discredit Russian leadership via network of controlled neoliberal MSM

Bemildred @115--

I wrote this for the next thread; but after reading your comment, it belongs here since the Trump thread didn't want to have it. "Provincials" as you said who in reality are gutter-scum.

This may appear to be about getting Trump, but it's more likely about keeping relations with Russia in the tank. For example, I remarked this morning that the only media report about Putin's annual, impressive presser was the highly convoluted answer Putin gave to some recent fake news reports about his family and how they connect to the Navalny crap. It appears the writing has similar qualities meaning it was produced by similar sources. There's only one way to properly illustrate this and that's to provide what Putin related.

The Question:

"Alexander Yunashev: Good afternoon, Mr President.

I will take the advice from the young reporter [from the previous question which is also of some importance]. A number of interesting investigative reports have been released lately, for example, about your daughter, your former son-in-law Shamalov and other people who are allegedly close to you. This week the Alexei Navalny investigation also came out. Could you tell us why a criminal investigation into his poisoning and who did it has not been launched until now?

Putin: "I see.

"It is no surprise that these fake news stories emerge. It has always been this way and always will. There is a battle unfolding in the media space. Nothing new here. Do you remember the terrible developments in the Caucasus and efforts to fight international terrorism? How was yours truly portrayed by the international media and, unfortunately, in Russia as well? Remember how they portrayed me with fangs? I remember all this very well. Still, I have invariably proceeded from the premise that I need to be doing what I believe to be right for our country. When I do something, I do it not for the sake of pleasing someone abroad. This is the first part of my answer.

"The second part has to do with my close ones. This report is impossible to read. I flipped through it, since it talks about me, it seems, but it is such a cut-and-paste job, with so many things piling up, that I was unable to finish reading it. What did I want to point out in this regard? The report keeps repeating 'the president's son-in-law' over and over again. At the end, however, he is referred to as the former son-in-law. This is the first thing I wanted to say. Still, in the text they keep driving home the message that he is my son-in-law. So this goes for point one.

"The second point is about 'President Putin forbidding the elite to hold overseas assets.' There is no ban preventing the elite from holding assets abroad. Public servants cannot have financial assets abroad. This was the right thing to do. They cannot hold accounts or other financial assets abroad. The company in question is 100-percent private. The state does not own a single share in it.

"The next question: who received shares in this company and how? It turns out that the company released a statement on this matter and what it thinks about these allegations. The company had a compensation scheme for its senior executives, and Mr Shamalov received stock just like all other senior executives. There are also other programmes for executives at a different level, and they received stock following a different scheme. Nothing special here.

"But ultimately, in my opinion, the most important thing is this: just now, aspiring journalist Shnurov asked about our hackers. What is written in the beginning? Note that it says that an unknown, anonymous person is pursuing goals we do not understand and then, apparently, this anonymous person is tracked down. What do I mean? It is said that what happened is similar to the events in 2016 when outlawed Russian hackers associated with Russian military intelligence hacked US Democratic Party members' emails. Here is your anonymous person. I think we know who that is. Who called these hackers outlaws associated with Russian military intelligence? It was the US Department of State and US intelligence agencies, which are in fact the authors. At any rate, it is completely obvious that it was done upon their instructions . This is the first thing.

"The second is that the reference to the insinuation that our hackers, as they believe, interfered with US domestic policy in 2016 means that the purpose of this is clear. The purpose is to take revenge and try to influence public opinion in our country in order to interfere, of course, with our domestic politics. This is absolutely obvious. It is absolutely obvious to me and, I think, it will also become clear to the majority of readers if they pay attention to the things I have just mentioned.

"But to this end, I would like to emphasise the following:

"One should be driven by now I want to address those who ordered these publications, not those who actually wrote them. I know that if they get an assignment from intelligence services they have to write it. But those who order these kinds of articles, should not be driven by revenge or act on the assumption of alleged exceptionalism; instead, they should develop relations with their international partners based on mutual respect and the fundamental standards of international law. Then we will be able to achieve shared success in the areas that are essential to all of us .

"Now, with regard to the patient of a Berlin clinic. I have already mentioned it many times, and can repeat only certain things. Mr Peskov told me just yesterday about the latest speculations in this regard concerning our special service officers' data and so on. Listen, we are perfectly aware of what this is all about. It is about legalisation the first time around and now. This is not about an investigation. This is about legalising the materials from the US special services .

"Do you really think we are unaware of the fact that they are tracking locations? Our special services understand this well and are aware of it. Officers of the FSB and other special services are aware of it and use telephones whenever they believe they should not be hiding their location, etc. But if this is so – and rest assured that this is so – it means that this patient of a Berlin clinic has the support of the special services, those of the United States in this particular case. And if this is the case, then it gets interesting and the special services should, of course, be looking after him. However, this does not mean at all that he must be poisoned. Who cares about him? If they really wanted to, they would have, most likely, carried it through . His wife addressed me, and I gave the green light to have him treated in Germany that very second.

"There is one important thing that the general public is not paying attention to. It is a trick to attack the people at the top. Those who perform it thus propel themselves up to a certain level where they can say: see who I am talking to? I am a person of the same calibre, so treat me as a person of nationwide importance. It is a well-known trick that is used in political dealings around the world.

"I think, though, that something else, not these tricks, should be used to gain people's respect and recognition. You need to prove your worth either by doing something important or by putting together a realistic programme with specific goals that can be implemented in a particular country, Russia, in this particular case .

"I urge the opponents to the current government and all political forces in our country to be led not by personal ambitions, but by the interests of the people of the Russian Federation, and to come up with a positive agenda in order to overcome the challenges facing the country. And we have many of them." [My Emphasis]

The rational flow is probably better in Russian with some key emphasis lost in translation. But Putin delivered the main point on the ordering and authorship, and IMO it's the same for much of the crap thrown our way since 1990. The only reason we aren't being treated to similar material about Biden is he's not one of the current targets, while legitimate anti-Biden stories are completely suppressed until they disappear under the rug. IMO, BigLie Media has become close to what State Media was in the USSR.


Paco , Dec 19 2020 7:44 utc | 138

@karlof1 | Dec 18 2020 23:39 utc | 118

IMO, BigLie Media has become close to what State Media was in the USSR.

With one big difference, the scope is global and the tools are well, like comparing a pencil with the most sophisticated printing press. Overall the translation sounds like what I heard, and the main point should be that Putin is able to talk at length and just about any subject since it is very hard to think of a pre arranged setup à la 2016 debate when the questions to be posed had been previously provided to the Clinton team.

Paco , Dec 19 2020 8:15 utc | 139

@karlof1 | Dec 18 2020 23:39 utc | 118

For next year conference, if all the players and myself are still around I'll try to take advantage of the open offer to pose a question on line, I found out too late but there was a very accesible setup to do it.

One of the questions was chosen by VVP or his team, and it was from a northern village resident, complaining about the local health services, claiming that there was a single 86 year old nurse in charge, and that she was unable to tell apart a tonsillitis from a hemorrhoid. I guess this part could have been prepared, to relax a bit a tense atmosphere. But it had consequences, the mentioned nurse has sued the daring patient, maybe he'll get his suppository orally, so as to heal his throat.

[Dec 19, 2020] But, But, Masks! or But, But Diet!

Dec 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

Obesity doubles Covid risks. Should we mandate diets? I know it's inconvenient, but suck it up, people. It's to save lives.

[Dec 18, 2020] The deep state and the theory of probability

Dec 18, 2020 | twitter.com

oregon4TRUMP @shawgerald4 • Dec 15
Replying to @kayleighmcenany

In 1915, these two bullets collided during the Battle of Gallipoli. The chances of this happening was 1 in 1,000,000,000 or about 300x more likely than Biden winning the election
without cheating.

[Dec 18, 2020] Russia hasn't just hacked our computer systems. It's hacked our minds by Fareed Zakaria

Did this pressitute ever heard about Stixnet and Flame ? About Vault7 and who developed it? From Wikipedia "WikiLeaks said on 19 March 2017 on Twitter that the "CIA was secretly exploiting" a vulnerability in a huge range of Cisco router models discovered thanks to the Vault 7 documents.[93][94] The CIA had learned more than a year ago how to exploit flaws in Cisco's widely used internet switches, which direct electronic traffic, to enable eavesdropping. Cisco quickly reassigned staff from other projects to turn their focus solely on analyzing the attack and to figure out how the CIA hacking worked, so they could help customers patch their systems and prevent criminal hackers or spies from using similar methods.[95] On 20 March, Cisco researchers confirmed that their study of the Vault 7 documents showed the CIA had developed malware which could exploit a flaw found in 318 of Cisco's switch models and alter or take control of the network.[96] Cisco issued a warning on security risks, patches were not available, but Cisco provided mitigation advice.[94]
...On 8 April 2017, Cindy Cohn, executive director of the international non-profit digital rights group based in San Francisco Electronic Frontier Foundation, said: "If the C.I.A. was walking past your front door and saw that your lock was broken, they should at least tell you and maybe even help you get it fixed." "And worse, they then lost track of the information they had kept from you so that now criminals and hostile foreign governments know about your broken lock." [109] Furthermore, she stated that the CIA had "failed to accurately assess the risk of not disclosing vulnerabilities. Even spy agencies like the CIA have a responsibility to protect the security and privacy of Americans."[110] "The freedom to have a private conversation – free from the worry that a hostile government, a rogue government agent or a competitor or a criminal are listening – is central to a free society". While not as strict as privacy laws in Europe, the Fourth Amendment to the US constitution does guarantee the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.[111]
Dec 17, 2020 | www.washingtonpost.com

The more we learn about the recent hack into dozens of America's most critical computer networks -- widely attributed to Russia -- the more it becomes clear that it is massive, unprecedented and crippling. Tom Bossert, who served as homeland security adviser to President Trump, writes , "It will take years to know for certain which networks the Russians control and which ones they just occupy." (We do know they successfully penetrated the Department of Homeland Security's systems as well as those of Treasury, Commerce and others.) Stanford's Alex Stamos describes it as "one of the most important hacking campaigns in history."

The New York Times' David E. Sanger, who has written several books on cyberweapons, co-wrote an article calling the breach "among the greatest intelligence failures of modern times."

Vladimir Putin's Russia has significantly expanded its hybrid warfare, using new methods to spread chaos among its adversaries. The United States will have to fortify its digital infrastructure and respond more robustly to the Kremlin's mounting cyberattacks. But what about the perhaps more insidious Russian efforts at disinformation, which have helped to reshape the information environment worldwide?

[Dec 18, 2020] An interesting 15-minute video from Canadian youtuber numuves showing the pattern of how the US ensures technological dominance:

Notable quotes:
"... How the US dominates Tech | Untold Story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgzB4_Zw3RE ..."
"... Biden's Scary Foreign Policy Picks: A Blast From War Crimes Past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wfnB1UMAc ..."
"... numuves is a legend Don't miss this short video all. ..."
Dec 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Canadian Cents , Dec 17 2020 21:00 utc | 38

An interesting 15-minute video from Canadian YouTuber numuves showing the pattern of how the US ensures technological dominance:

How the US dominates Tech | Untold Story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgzB4_Zw3RE

An Abby Martin 10-minute video on Biden's roster, another redux, as has also been pointed out by b and commenters:

Biden's Scary Foreign Policy Picks: A Blast From War Crimes Past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wfnB1UMAc

uncle tungsten , Dec 17 2020 23:55 utc | 48

Canadian Cents #38

How the US dominates Tech | Untold Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgzB4_Zw3RE

Thank you for an excellent post. numuves is a legend Don't miss this short video all.

[Dec 18, 2020] The Onion Salutes The Courageous Legislators Determined To Overturn The Will Of Voters

Am interesting random sentences generator on th etopic of recent elections. Below is just a sample. There is much more
Dec 18, 2020 | politics.theonion.com
12/11/20 5:30PM Slideshow

Thank you for bravely standing up to the American voters.

It is an honor to witness such valor.

Bravo for confronting the sick and twisted sycophants who would attempt to select the candidate of their choice.

Sir, you have served your country well, fighting against the scourge of Democracy as well as the menace of exposing sexual abuse.

It takes true grit to defy those who would dare to cast a ballot.

Please never back down from your constituents.

We The People applaud you for confronting We The People.

We are blessed to have you working tirelessly to throw out the votes of Michigan residents.

We need you to help destroy the U.S. Constitution next.

You have been absolutely fearless when stopping the American people from participating in elections.

The American people will never forget your bravery.

You're inspiring millions of children to never accept election results.

If more people had your spine, the entire country would be like Alabama.

Tears are rolling down our faces, Mr. Congressman!

Thank you for selflessly bringing to light the dangers of federalism.

Never again will we allow U.S. citizens to recklessly turn in their ballots.

From sea to shining sea, we shall throw out votes.

Real patriotism is challenging the American people when they vote wrong.

God hates American voters, too. You're in good company.

Liberty is about our rights to question whether some people's votes should count.

We applaud your eternal vigilance against people who selected a candidate you don't like.

Never apologize for being an American who disenfranchises voters.

You have performed your duty to protect our elections from U.S. citizens.

Way to stand firm against voters from other states.

Thank you for protecting us from the horrors of the ballot box.

Thank you for sacrificing your ethics.

You have fulfilled your duty. We will never fear the American voter again.

We appreciate how you've protected our right to suppress the vote.

There's nothing more noble than defending your country from representative government.

We must all work together to stand up to the oppression of government by the people.

Proud of the way you stand for liberty, freedom, and independence from voters.

Thanks for not backing down from those who would want a free and fair election.

You proudly stood up to an unhinged cult selfishly demanding that their votes count.

You've done a great job defending liberty from the residents of Michigan.

Soon every state will have the opportunity to achieve the same greatness as West Virginia.

Thank you for helping to cut back on the legitimacy of our institutions. SEE MORE: Vol 56 Issue 49

[Dec 18, 2020] Russian athletes will continue to compete normally - only without the Russian symbols.

Dec 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

jayc , Dec 17 2020 19:37 utc | 35

The WADA allegations against the Russian Federation's sporting establishment ultimately rely on the testimony of a single witness (who is also the chief culprit if the allegations are correct), and a tampering process which the manufacturer of the tamper-proof containers insists is impossible. The WADA investigation has been prosecuted by Canadian bureaucrats, who have been publicly outspoken in their animus towards Russia. It appears as another element in the informational war, moved into the sporting environment - one of the few truly international cooperative ventures humankind currently sustains. The recommended punishment, albeit, was halved. Most of the sporting doping these days involves "health" supplements which enjoy official exemption.

As for the Venezuelan gold - Guaido will soon have no standing as any kind of elected official. Will he be retained as some sort of "leader" anyway, or what is the future of the regime-change gambit?


vk , Dec 17 2020 15:54 utc | 9

Russia banned from using its name, flag at next two Olympics

Russia will not be able to use its name, flag and anthem at the next two Olympics or at any world championships for the next two years after a ruling Thursday by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

In other words: this doping scandal never existed; but it was never about sports: it is all - and always was - about propaganda. Russian athletes will continue to compete normally - only without the Russian symbols.

This is a clear attack against Russia.

LM , Dec 17 2020 17:45 utc | 22

@ vk | Dec 17 2020 15:54 utc | 9

" Russia banned from using its name, flag at next two Olympics"

"Russia will not be able to use its name, flag and anthem at the next two Olympics or at any world championships for the next two years after a ruling Thursday by the Court of Arbitration for Sport."

It's all about NordStream 2. Same as Skripals, Navalny, Hacking U.S. Treasury and other agencies, Interfering in U.S.elections. If NS2 comes on line Germany will have a source of clean energy and will receive income as a hub for pipelines to other European countries. Gazprom will be paid in Euros, not USD inviting others to follow suit. If that happens the U.S. is in serious trouble that is why it must stop NS2 at all costs.

[Dec 17, 2020] The Fall of the Republic - part1

Dec 17, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

" Correspondence between Hunter Biden and CEFC Chairman Ye Jianming from 2017 shows President-elect Joe Biden's son extending "best wishes from the entire Biden family ," and urging the chairman to "quickly" send a $10 million wire to "properly fund and operate" the Biden joint venture with the now-bankrupt Chinese energy company.

The $10 million transfer to the joint venture was never completed.

Fox News obtained an email Hunter Biden sent on June 18, 2017, to Zhao Run Long at CEFC, asking that they please "translate my letter to Chairman Ye, please extend my warmest best wishes and that I hope to see the Chairman soon.""

Biden went on to note that Bobulinski had "sent a request to Dong Gongwen [Gongwen Dong] and Director Zang for the funding of the $10 MM USD wire."

"I would appreciate if you will send that quickly so we can properly fund and operate Sinohawk," Biden wrote.

"I am sure you have been well briefed by our dear friend Director Zan g on the political and economic connections we have established in countries where you are interested in expanding during the coming months and years, " he continued. "I look forward to our next meeting."

"Fox News also obtained the response from Ye as part of an email, dated Sept. 6, 2017, from Biden business associate James Gilliar to Bobulinski. That email forwarded Ye's letter responding to Biden. The letter is dated July 10, 2017.

Ye stated that he had arranged for Zang and Dong to "expedite the charter capital input to SinoHawk."

"I am glad to hear from you! Time flies and it has been months since we met in the US. It seems that we were always on a rush when we were together," Ye wrote to Biden, adding that "the consensus we made last time has been materialized in a timely manner."

Ye also recommended Biden "arrange your people to coordinate with Director Zang and Gongwen Dong for specific work."

"I will continue to pay attention and give my support," Ye stated. "I have arranged Director Zang and Gongwen Dong to expedite the charter capital input to SinoHawk."

"I look forward to meeting you in the near future and discussing our joint undertaking. If there is anything I could do please do not hesitate to write to me," Ye wrote. "Please accept my best regards to you and your family."" foxnews

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Well, pilgrims, the Ron Johnson hearing today was fun. The best part for me was former Director Krebs' (election security guy for DHS) repeated statements that the election was secure, "the most secure in history." Pilgrims, the distinction betwixt "secure" and "honest" seems to have escaped him as he ignored questions about actual evidence of fraud, a swampie to the end.

And then, there is Chairman Joe. He knows that nothing will be easier than to kill off prosecution of his creepy son, or to "suggest" to the Delaware federal prosecutor that a minor indictment would be appropriate, something resulting in a suspended sentence.

I have watched Tucker debrief Bobulinski twice about that payment. The way Bobulinski tells it (with documentation) the Bidens were loaned $5 million by MEFC to pay their side of the capitalization and then actually pocketed the other $5 million as a direct payment to La Familia from FEMC (Oh Danny Boy!) from - equal opportunity! That was too much for the Bobster (former naval Lt., man of world finance, patriot, self-abnegator, etc.) Besides, where was his share?

Pistols at dawn? Good! Tucker can act as his second. Where are my cased flintlock smoothbores? They are somewhere around here, the English 18th Century ones in the fitted blue velvet case. pl

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-letter-chinese-cefc-chairman-wire-request

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-says-im-confident-hunter-did-nothing-wrong-amid-federal-probe-into-tax-affairs

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-election-hearing-clash-johnson-peters

[Dec 17, 2020] The Fraud Happened Senator Rand Paul Accuses States Of Using COVID To Steal Election

This is a real crisis of legitimacy for Biden administration.
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Senator Rand Paul accused Georgia and other states of using the COVID-19 pandemic to steal the election in a move he says could have came from the playbook of Obama Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, who famously said, "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

Appearing on Fox News prior to the Wednesday Senate hearing on election irregularities, Senator Paul was asked how revelations, such as the one out of Georgia showing more than 1,700 voters illegally submitted two ballots during the Nov. 3 contest, would effect the upcoming runoff elections in the Empire State of the South.

Paul would respond, saying: "You'd think that all of this would be investigated and tried to be fixed before the election."

The Senator went on to run off a list of voter fraud examples in Georgia, including the 1,700 double votes , votes from commercial addresses , and dead voters casting ballots .

He also pointed to potential illegal voting activity in Nevada:

"We're going to hear testimony from Nevada where 15 hundred people were deceased and should not have voted, four thousand people were illegal aliens, and 15 thousand people voted from commercial address when you have to vote from a home address."

Echoing the case laid out by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton in his recently dismissed Supreme Court lawsuit, Paul accused states of using the COVID-19 crisis to dodge state and federal election law, comparing the move to a play right out of the Obama, Rahm Emanuel playbook:

"It's sort of Obama, Rahm Emanuel's playbook. They took the crisis of COVID and then they changed election law not by changing law at the state legislature, they had secretaries of state and or governors simply by fiat change the law to say 'oh you can keep counting votes' when the law did say that. So, this election really was stolen in a way and it was stolen because people changed the law "

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Shortly after his appointment as Obama's Chief of Staff, former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel famously uttered the words "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste" during a corporate panel sponsored by the Wall Street Journal .

"What I mean by that is never allow a good crisis to go to waste when it's an opportunity to do things that you had never considered, or that you didn't think were possible," Emanuel would explain at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/_mzcbXi1Tkk

Trump Campaign Attorney, Jesse Binnall, would laid out similar accusations of voter fraud to those given by Senator Paul during the Wednesday Senate hearing.

See Binnall's opening statement below:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RpLAW-7FBPs

But, Senator Paul was not done, as Douglas Braff reports via SaraACarter.com , during today's Senate hearing examining irregularities during 2020 presidential election the Kentucky Republican claimed:

"The fraud happened. The election in many ways was stolen...And the only way it'll be fixed is by, in the future, reinforcing the laws."

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"But I think [Kreb's] job was keeping the foreigners out of the election. It was the most secure election based on the security of the internet and technology, but he has never voiced an opinion [ ] on whether or not dead people voted -- I don't think he examined that," Paul said toward the end of his speaking time, then questioning if Krebs examined non-citizens' voting.

Many Republicans, in alleging that widespread election fraud occurred in the 2020 election, have often cited claims that a lot of dead people and non-citizens voted. The over 50 lawsuits challenging the results of the election in certain swing states alleging election fraud have overwhelmingly failed in the courts.

"So to say it was the safest election -- sure, I agree with your statement if you're referring to foreign intervention," Paul continued.

"But if you're saying it's the safest election based on no dead people voted, no non-citizens voted, no people broke the absentee [ballot] rules, I think that's false and I think that's what's upset a lot of people on our side is that they're taking your statement to mean 'Oh, there were no problems in the elections.'"

"I don't think you examined any of the problems that we've heard here," he added, "so really you're just referring to something differently, the way I look at it." ay_arrow 1


wee-weed up 6 hours ago (Edited)

Okay, Sen Rand Paul...

Now put your credibility where your mouth is...

And back up Mo Brooks on Jan 6th when he stands up to challenge the validity of the election.

This will call for congresscritters with balls enough to say, "This illegal voting that occurred threatens the Republic and will not stand!"

US Banana Republic 6 hours ago

Do you know why Biden is telling everyone to stay home from his inauguration (which will never be anyway)?

Because NOBODY would have come. With or without COVID being a factor.

Fraudly Dementia Boy who is supposedly the most popular Democrat in history according to the vote, never would have gotten more than 12 people to show up to see him sworn in,.

EightyEight Mike 6 hours ago remove link

"17 Intelligence Agencies confirmed that there was foreign interference in the presidential election."

Remember hearing that every day?

sgt_doom 5 hours ago remove link

Even Matt Taibbi debunked that bullcrap --- a couple of guys at the CIA, friends of the Clapper/Brannan bromance, who later transferred to the NSA, to prattle the same bullcrap!

https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-exclusive-dominion-voting-machines-ability-create-ballots/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-12-01/dominion-voting-systems-owner-sells-400-million-securities-china-linked-ubs-october

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1827586/000182758620000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

[ China (the CCP) owns UBS Securities Co LTD >> which owns Staple Street Capital >> which owns Dominion >> ergo, CCP owns Dominion --- this is the way it is done in int'l finance]

Doom Porn Star 6 hours ago (Edited)

Laws were NOT changed. The legal procedures for changing the voting laws were NOT followed.

The very laws about changing the election laws were not followed and thus laws were not changed.

For instance: in Pennsylvania the Legislature is the only authority that can change the state constitution and the laws governing elections within. The Legislature did NOT change the constitution of Pennsylvania.

Saying that laws were changed is not the same as actually going through the legal procedures required to change the laws and enacting new legally binding legislation.

Saying "We changed the laws."doesn't change anything no matter how many times you repeat the phrase.

They did NOT change the laws -which is why SCOTUS freaked out and refused to hear the case.

IF SCOTUS actually had been forced to admit that the laws were not actually changed , despite the repeated insistent rhetoric that they had been changed, Trump would easily have won the Electoral College.

PGR88 6 hours ago

Let's look at California

This year, due to "COVID-19," California mailed out 25 million ballots to everyone on voter rolls. Remember also, their DMV automatically registers everyone to vote - including illegals, who are given drivers licenses. Mail-in-voting in CA has been a trend, but now Newsom wants this to be permanent.

There are no checks on non-citizens voting.

Voter rolls have not been purged of people who left the State or who changed addresses

In November 2020, approx, 7 million ballots were returned. Normally, in some districts, up to 10% of mail-in ballots may be rejected for problems. This year, due to the vast numbers, less than 0.01% were rejected.

It is absolutely impossible for state election workers to check voter rolls, signatures, addresses on 7 million ballots - so in effect, NO checks occur

California also allows "ballot harvesters." Any organized group my collect ballots from Voters, and turn them in. Some activist groups are even funded by the state to "harvest" ballots. That means political actors are collecting ballots, completely outside of any verification or chain-of-possession steps.

I dare anyone to tell me such a system is not full of manipulation and fraud

NoBigDeal 6 hours ago remove link

The GOP have to fight this in the court of public opinion because no court judge is prepared to listen to the case. They accuse them of telling lies without looking at the evidence. A cynical Catch 22 position.

As the administrators of justice this is a frightening heads up for anyone who thought there was any integrity and fairness in the legal system.

It's all bribes now..

Nature_Boy_Wooooo 5 hours ago (Edited)

Imagine sitting in court for tax fraud and the prosecutor saying........ "we gotta make sure this doesn't happen in the future.".....but you get to walk and keep the money you stole.

Onthebeach6 6 hours ago remove link

The Deep State actors are still trying to steal it by claiming no CCP interference in the election.

The report on foreign interference in the US election is due for release on Friday (18 th ) afternoon. This will be 45 days after it was requested by the President. It may be delayed.

The report is being prepared by the DNI (Department of National Intelligence) which is an umbrella organization over 16 intelligence agencies.

There is currently a massive ongoing fight between agencies in respect of those who wish to include the evidence of Chinese CCP involvement and those who wish to cover this up and blame Russia.

Director Ratcliffe of the DNI wants the CCP involvement included in the report and has stated that he will not sign the report unless this detailed CCP information is included.

It is important to understand that there is both evidence of CCP helping to fix the election and ongoing CCP pressure to ensure that their asset Biden is sworn in as President.

It is clear that CCP and deep state assets as well as the DNC and big tech worked together to steal the election and remove Trump in support of a globalist agenda that would enrich a small minority whilst impoverishing most Americans.

WatchOutForThatTree 2 hours ago

Whether the "election" turned out the way you wanted or not, it's pretty damned obvious this bitch was rigged.

Can all the stupid trolls and mindless posters please go back into your caves? The quality(or lack thereof) of discourse here sucks nowadays...

Linguo 1 hour ago

Rigged ? Corporate money by the billions, voter suppression, two parties whose sole allegiance is to Wall Street deliberately excluding third and fourth parties and gerrymandering to name a few, contributes to the democratic process ? What planet do you live on ? This country has never been a democracy. If the election was rigged, why did the republicans do well with the exception of the racist war criminal who is personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of COVID-19 deaths, King BS the 1st ? Idiot.

wimvincken 3 hours ago remove link

It's unbelievable what happened in the US. Many countries have simple ID driven elections. You show your ID and vote. Simple.

And in case the country has a computers, that computer can check if you're a citizen and if you already have voted in almost real-time. Simple.

I didn't know that the US doesn't have computers. Who would have thought that? /sarc

Sorry, but the incompetence is there running amok. Strategy is not one of the strongest thing there, because they could predict something like this to happen beforehand. The way how the Americans vote is simply asking for trouble like this. Now I'm curious if they want to fix it. I don't think so.

Soloamber 3 hours ago

The winner of the USA elections is now who cheats best .

The Democrats did nothing for four years except the fraud impeachment and the coordinated effort to steal the election . It was their only chance with Dementia man .

Pdunne 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Elections are won or lost these days with influence and money.

It is time to go back to the days when only individuals can donate to a campaign, not more corporate money or dark funds for PAC's.

Candidates will always pander to the money and if it was coming from the people maybe the people would get a fairer government. play_arrow

ronin12 PREMIUM 4 hours ago remove link

It's super fantastic to hear Rand Paul speak the truth.

So wtf is he actually going to DO about it?

Soloamber 3 hours ago remove link

Three full years of MSM Russia , Russia started by the Clinton's , CIA , Obama and the

biggest dip **** to run the FBI .

Mass election fraud ....cheating Trump out of an obvious win . NOTHING .

Move on because the gang rapists say so .

Voters one access to democracy stolen by the corrupt Democrat Party , negated by an algorithm, dead voters

, vote harvesting, billionaire globalist determined to destroy the USA and Chinese money .

Then people like sleeve bag Schumer unilaterally trying to bribe students with their own credit card .

Biden was right dark days .

Babadook 4 hours ago remove link

Gullible. That is the only word that describes the fantasy of faith in using electronic voting machines. Pen, paper & observers work perfectly well in other developed countries.

Don Storm 4 hours ago

Like someone posted earlier on ZH:

" In 2020 California mailed out 25 million ballots to everyone on voter rolls. Remember, the DMV automatically registers everyone to vote including illegals, who are given drivers licenses. Mail-in-voting in CA has been a trend, but now Newsom wants this to be permanent.

There are no checks on non-citizens voting. Voter rolls have not been purged of people who left the State or who changed addresses.

In 2020, approx. 7 million ballots were returned. Normally, up to 5% of mail-in ballots may be rejected for problems. This year, due to the vast numbers less than 0.01% were rejected.

It is absolutely impossible for state election workers to check voter rolls, signatures, addresses on 7 million ballots. So, NO checks occured whatsoever.

California allows "ballot harvesters." Any organized group may collect ballots from voters and turn them in. In fact, some activist groups are even funded by the state to "harvest" ballots.

I DARE anyone to show that such a system is NOT subject to total abuse and fraud on a massive scale. "

Here we have our answer, and California isn't the only state that allowed for such a weak mail-in ballot system.

Perhaps even more disturbing, why were mail-in ballots allowed on such a massive scale to begin with? And, we are not even talking about Dominion and other crap that took place.

Bjorn2bebad PREMIUM 4 hours ago

I live in Japan and they sent me a ballot - to Tokyo! I have not lived in CA for 8 years!!!

Nullifytodefy1835 6 hours ago remove link

Do you think that signature verification, the very thing that was touted, as being the very thing, that makes voting by mail safe, secure and fraud free, was thrown out the window for this election. Literally, the PA SOS told the election staff that ballots cannot be excluded because of signature mismatch, along with a host of other "irregularities" that would have the ballots, like the 26,000 that were tossed during the primary, excluded from being legal ballots that count. It concerns me that, the talking heads parrot the signature verification talking point everywhere you look, knowing that they had no plan on ever doing such. It really smacks of impropriety and corruption, if you only look at that, and that alone. When you then take account of the other issues, it looks like a stolen election. I am certainly not a Trump supporter, did not vote for him, but I have had an issue with election fraud for many years, as I have personally known of a migrant advocacy group that would bus the non citizens to the polling places and they would vote. I reported this many times, still it continued. Still it continues. When the only "proof" of citizenship you must provide, is a check in a box that you, "attest under penalty of perjury" that you are a citizen, blah, blah, blah, there is bound to be those that take advantage of the lack of oversight. Wherever there is an opportunity, a criminal, fraudster or corrupt actor, will take advantage, to the fullest extent possible. Human nature.

[Dec 17, 2020] A strong argument against voter fraud in 2020 elections

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... I will also state that in "real" democracies, rigging the vote count is a rarity--it is far more effective just to rig the candidates so it doesn't matter if Tweedledee or Tweedledum gets more votes. ..."
Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

TH , Dec 16 2020 17:06 utc | 128

I see two possibilities:

1) Biden got more votes
2) The intelligence agencies rigged the vote count via fraud

In the prior case, Biden will clearly be president. In the latter, Biden will also be president because the agencies' authority is absolute.

I will also state that in "real" democracies, rigging the vote count is a rarity--it is far more effective just to rig the candidates so it doesn't matter if Tweedledee or Tweedledum gets more votes.

[Dec 17, 2020] Small correction for Dem senator statements: here was no fraud. It was outright theft

In other word Russiagate came back is had bitten Dem senators in the back
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Overpowered By Funk 13 hours ago remove link

To be honest, I'm looking forward to a Biden administration. All the late night TV jokes at his expense about the gaffs, mental lapses, and blank stares should be a hoot. Can't wait for the first SNL skit! Yep, I can't wait.

SillyWabbits 9 hours ago

There was no fraud.

It was outright theft.

gilhgvc 10 hours ago (Edited)

Well, it's official...we are ruled over now. Congress and senate are dukes and duchesses, courts are the new court JESTERS and biteme/cameltoe are the new king and king of the realm....I want to send an apology out to our Founding Fathers and all the men and women who died for this idea of america...we blew it guys. We are nothing like you brave souls. While we wallow in the muck with our nikes, cell phones and nose rings, the world dies a little more each day. I apologize for tearing statues down of great men, who merely did what was normal in those times. You gave it all to us on a silver platter and the morons squandered it, fat & happy to sit around bitching about being poor, while playing video games on thier $1000 I-phones....I am sorry. play_arrow

Mzhen 10 hours ago remove link

Some lowly cyber security professional testified to the Colorado legislature yesterday, saying that nobody at CISA has a background and qualifications that would allow them to state that the election was the most secure in history.

The hearing came to naught because the Democrats dominating the state don't want an audit. Colorado turned Blue almost overnight -- or it was after statewide all-mail-in voting was instituted. Probably not a coincidence.

[Dec 17, 2020] For Russiagate I have been waiting for the excuse makers to offer something like they did with "Saddam's own fault". That is, the Russians - Putin -, wanted the FBI, CIA, Hillary, MSM, etc to fall for Russiagate.

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... No doubt that is on its way, but I think it would have been too difficult to pull off without full control over the government's top figurehead. Once Harris is enthroned then they will move on that, I am sure of it. ..."
Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

librul , Dec 16 2020 18:23 utc | 140

But somehow the Satan candidate won. "Impossible!! It must be the Russians!"

@Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 16 2020 17:51 utc | 136

There is one Russiagate shoe that I am still waiting to hear drop (maybe it already did and I missed it).

In 2003 when the CIA succeeded in misleading this country into an invasion over non-existent WMD
the finger pointing began, to explain away the lies as simply a pack of errors.

One excuse that gained some traction was that it was Saddam's own fault, he had pretended to have WMD.

For Russiagate I have been waiting for the excuse makers to offer something like they did with "Saddam's own fault".
That is, the Russians - Putin -, wanted the FBI, CIA, Hillary, MSM, etc to fall for Russiagate.
Thus John Brennan did not attempt a coup (nor Comey, nor the FBI, CIA and the rest of the "17 intelligence agencies" the MSM
and the Democrats) by knowingly creating a false narrative about the Russians, it was the dastardly Russians (Putin)
themselves that are to blame. No attempted coup, simply a pack of errors seeded by the Russians themselves.

As the Durham investigation appears to be heading for the historical footnotes there will be no need for the
traitors to create excuses. And I do not expect to ever hear that shoe drop.

William Gruff , Dec 16 2020 18:49 utc | 143

librul @139: "I have been waiting for the excuse makers to offer something like they did with "Saddam's own fault". That is, the Russians - Putin -, wanted the FBI, CIA, Hillary, MSM, etc to fall for Russiagate."

No doubt that is on its way, but I think it would have been too difficult to pull off without full control over the government's top figurehead. Once Harris is enthroned then they will move on that, I am sure of it.

[Dec 17, 2020] The CIA had the ability to attach certain metadata to its own hacking activities, to insinuate that Russian or Chinese hackers were responsible (and thus put future investigators on a wrong trail away from the actual culprits)

Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jen , Dec 16 2020 19:44 utc | 4

Since Wikileaks first publicised its hacking of the infamous Vault 7 emails demonstrating that the CIA had the ability to attach certain metadata to its own hacking activities, to insinuate that Russian or Chinese hackers were responsible (and thus put future investigators on a wrong trail away from the actual culprits), I don't rule out that the CIA and possibly other intel agencies chummy with it may have penetrated FireEye. Especially as these hacking attempts appear to have specific targets and some investors in the companies affected by these hacking attempts seem to employ crystal ball gazers so they were able to divest themselves of huge numbers of shares and make tidy profits before news of the hacking came out which would have sent these hacked companies' share prices down into an abyss. Could some of the hackers themselves be shareholders in the hacked firms?

[Dec 17, 2020] Media Blame Russia For Cyber Intrusions Without Providing Evidence

Reminds me the attack on Iranian uranium enrichment infrastructure, which also used patches as the way to inject malware into the system. And who were the players in this attack?
Notable quotes:
"... Moon of Alabama ..."
"... Next to the NSA and Britain's GHCQ there are at least Israel, China and maybe Russia which do have such capabilities. But whoever had the chutzpah to intrude the cybersecurity company FireEye ..."
"... 'People familiar with the issue' say 'Russia is believed to be responsible'. Well, some kids familiar with wobbly teeth believe in the tooth fairy. What is that 'believe' based on? ..."
"... Associated Press ..."
"... Atlantic Council ..."
Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
To keep Moon of Alabama up and running is a significant effort. Please help me to sustain it . - b

As soon as someone hacked something the media start to blame Russia. This even when there is no evidence that Russia hacked anything.

On Tuesday, December 8, the network security company FireEye reported of a recent attack on its network :

Based on my 25 years in cyber security and responding to incidents, I've concluded we are witnessing an attack by a nation with top-tier offensive capabilities. This attack is different from the tens of thousands of incidents we have responded to throughout the years. The attackers tailored their world-class capabilities specifically to target and attack FireEye. They are highly trained in operational security and executed with discipline and focus. They operated clandestinely, using methods that counter security tools and forensic examination. They used a novel combination of techniques not witnessed by us or our partners in the past.

We are actively investigating in coordination with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other key partners, including Microsoft. Their initial analysis supports our conclusion that this was the work of a highly sophisticated state-sponsored attacker utilizing novel techniques.

Intruding a cybersecurity company is a mistake as the chance of getting caught is significantly higher that during an intrusion into other environments. The intruders allegedly made off with some tools which likely can also be found in the wild.

On Sunday FireEye updated its analysis and provided technical details . This really was a sophisticated operation that must have cost significant resources :

We have identified a global campaign that introduces a compromise into the networks of public and private organizations through the software supply chain. This compromise is delivered through updates to a widely-used IT infrastructure management software -- the Orion network monitoring product from SolarWinds . The campaign demonstrates top-tier operational tradecraft and resourcing consistent with state-sponsored threat actors.

Based on our analysis, the attacks that we believe have been conducted as part of this campaign share certain common elements:

Based on our analysis, we have now identified multiple organizations where we see indications of compromise dating back to the Spring of 2020, and we are in the process of notifying those organizations. Our analysis indicates that these compromises are not self-propagating; each of the attacks require meticulous planning and manual interaction.

Neither FireEye nor Microsoft named any suspected actor behind the 'difficult-to-attribute' intrusion effort. Next to the NSA and Britain's GHCQ there are at least Israel, China and maybe Russia which do have such capabilities. But whoever had the chutzpah to intrude the cybersecurity company FireEye also blew up their own operation against many targets of much higher value. Years of work and millions of dollars went to waste because of that one mistake.

Despite the lack of evidence that points to a specific actor 'western' media immediately blamed Russia for the spying attempt.

As Reuters reported on Sunday :

Hackers believed to be working for Russia have been monitoring internal email traffic at the U.S. Treasury and Commerce departments, according to people familiar with the matter, adding they feared the hacks uncovered so far may be the tip of the iceberg.

The hack is so serious it led to a National Security Council meeting at the White House on Saturday, said one of the people familiar with the matter.
...
The U.S. government has not publicly identified who might be behind the hacking , but three of the people familiar with the investigation said Russia is currently believed to be responsible for the attack . Two of the people said that the breaches are connected to a broad campaign that also involved the recently disclosed hack on FireEye, a major U.S. cybersecurity company with government and commercial contracts.

In a statement posted here to Facebook, the Russian foreign ministry described the allegations as another unfounded attempt by the U.S. media to blame Russia for cyberattacks against U.S. agencies.

'People familiar with the issue' say 'Russia is believed to be responsible'. Well, some kids familiar with wobbly teeth believe in the tooth fairy. What is that 'believe' based on?

The Associated Press reported on the wider aspect of the intrusions and also blamed Russia:

Hackers broke into the networks of the Treasury and Commerce departments as part of a monthslong global cyberespionage campaign revealed Sunday, just days after the prominent cybersecurity firm FireEye said it had been breached in an attack that industry experts said bore the hallmarks of Russian tradecraft.

I have read FireEye's and Microsoft's detailed technical analysis of the intrusion and took a look at the code . As a (former) IT professional very familiar with network management, I have seen nothing in it that points to Russia. Who are those 'industry experts' who make such unfounded claims?

In response to what may be a large-scale penetration of U.S. government agencies, the Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity arm issued an emergency directive calling on all federal civilian agencies to scour their networks for compromises.

The threat apparently came from the same cyberespionage campaign that has afflicted FireEye, foreign governments and major corporations, and the FBI was investigating.

"This can turn into one of the most impactful espionage campaigns on record," said cybersecurity expert Dmitri Alperovitch .

Ah - the AP talked to Alperovitch, the former chief technical officer of the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike . The company which in 2016 claimed that Russia had stolen emails from the Democratic National Council but could not provide any evidence of that to the FBI. The company that admitted in Congress testimony that it did not see any exfiltration of emails from the DNC and had no evidence that Russia was involved. Alperovitch is also the 'industry expert' who falsely claimed that Russia hacked into an application used by the Ukrainian artillery. The same Alperovich who is a Senior Fellow of the anti-Russian lobbying organization Atlantic Council . Alperovitch apparently has never seen a software bug or malware that was not made by Russia.

Quoting an earlier version of the above AP story Max Abrams predicted:

Max Abrahms @MaxAbrahms - 3:20 UTC · Dec 14, 2020

"The U.S. government did not publicly identify Russia as the culprit behind the hacks, first reported by Reuters, and said little about who might be responsible."

You know this story will be retold as all 17 intel agencies 100% certain Putin is behind it.

That is indeed likely to happen.

Even while there is no hint in the intrusion software where it might have come from the media all started to blame Russia.

On Sunday, in its first report on the attack, the New York Times headlined:

Russian Hackers Broke Into Federal Agencies, U.S. Officials Suspect

Its chief propagandist David Sanger wrote:

The Trump administration acknowledged on Sunday that hackers acting on behalf of a foreign government -- almost certainly a Russian intelligence agency, according to federal and private experts -- broke into a range of key government networks, including in the Treasury and Commerce Departments, and had free access to their email systems.
...
News of the breach, reported earlier by Reuters , came less than a week after the National Security Agency, which is responsible for breaking into foreign computer networks and defending the most sensitive U.S. national security systems, issued a warning that "Russian state-sponsored actors" were exploiting flaws in a system broadly used in the federal government.

That warning by the NSA was about a known vulnerability in VMware, a software issue that is completely unrelated to the intrusions FireEye had detected and which targeted multiple government agencies.

Not bothering with facts the NYT continued its insinuations :

At the time, the N.S.A. refused to give further details of what had prompted the urgent warning. Shortly afterward, FireEye announced that hackers working for a state had stolen some of its prized tools for finding vulnerabilities in its clients' systems -- including the federal government's. That investigation also pointed toward the S.V.R., one of Russia's leading intelligence agencies. It is often called Cozy Bear or A.P.T. 29, and it is known as a traditional collector of intelligence.

No, the investigation by FireEye does not point in any direction. The company did not name a suspected actor and it did not mention Russia or the S.V.R. at all. The intrusion is also in no way similar to those phishing attempts that some have named Cozy Bear or APT 29.

The Times then further discredits itself by quoting the anti-Russian nutter Alperovich.

On Monday another NYT piece, co-written by Sanger, describes the wider attack and includes the word 'Russia' 23 times! But it does not provide any evidence for any Russian involvement in the case. This is the nearest it comes to:

The early assessments of the intrusions -- believed to be the work of Russia's S.V.R., a successor to the K.G.B. -- suggest that the hackers were highly selective about which victims they exploited for further access and data theft.

'Believed to be' the tooth fairy?

The piece also falsely insinuates that FireEye has linked the attack to Russia:

FireEye said that despite their widespread access, Russian hackers exploited only what was considered the most valuable targets.

Nowhere did FireEye say anything about Russian hackers. It only stated that the intrusions were specifically targeted. The implication of Russia only happened in the NYT writers' heads.

Reuters reports today :

On Monday, SolarWinds confirmed that Orion - its flagship network management software - had served as the unwitting conduit for a sprawling international cyberespionage operation. The hackers inserted malicious code into Orion software updates pushed out to nearly 18,000 customers.

And while the number of affected organizations is thought to be much more modest, the hackers have already parlayed their access into consequential breaches at the U.S. Treasury and Department of Commerce.

Three people familiar with the investigation have told Reuters that Russia is a top suspect, although others familiar with the inquiry have said it is still too early to tell.

As of now no one but the people behind the intrusion know where it has come from.

SolarWinds , the company behind the network management software that was abused to intrude agencies and companies, is known for a lack of security:

SolarWinds' security, meanwhile, has come under new scrutiny.

In one previously unreported issue, multiple criminals have offered to sell access to SolarWinds' computers through underground forums, according to two researchers who separately had access to those forums.

One of those offering claimed access over the Exploit forum in 2017 was known as "fxmsp" and is wanted by the FBI "for involvement in several high-profile incidents," said Mark Arena, chief executive of cybercrime intelligence firm Intel471. Arena informed his company's clients, which include U.S. law enforcement agencies.

Security researcher Vinoth Kumar told Reuters that, last year, he alerted the company that anyone could access SolarWinds' update server by using the password "solarwinds123"

"This could have been done by any attacker, easily," Kumar said.

And that's it.

Any significant actor with the necessary resources could have used the publicly known SolarWinds' password to sneak some malware into the Orion software update process to thereby intrude SolarWinds' customers and spy on them. Without further definitive evidence there is no reason to attribute the intrusions to Russia.

If anyone is to blame it is surely SolarWinds which has learned nothing from the attack. Monday night, days after it was warned, its infected software was still available on its servers . It seems that the SolarWinds people were busy with more important issues than their customers' security:

Top investors in SolarWinds, the Texas-based company whose software was breached in a major Russian cyberattack, sold millions of dollars in stock in the days before the intrusion was revealed.

The timing of the trades raises questions about whether the investors used inside information to avoid major losses related to the attack. SolarWinds's share price has plunged roughly 22 percent since the company disclosed its role in the breach Sunday night.

Note the casual use of 'Russian cyberattack', for which there is no evidence, in the very first sentence.

Silver Lake, a Silicon Valley investor with a history of high-profile tech deals including Airbnb, Dell and Twitter, sold $158 million in shares of SolarWinds on Dec. 7 -- six days before news of the breach became public. Thoma Bravo, a San Francisco-based private equity firm, also sold $128 million of its shares in SolarWinds on Dec. 7.

Together, the two investment firms own 70 percent of SolarWinds and control six of the company's board seats, giving the firms access to key information and making their stock trades subject to federal rules around financial disclosures.

Well, grifters are gonna grift.

And 'western' mainstream writers will blame Russia for anything completely independent of what really happened.

Posted by b on December 16, 2020 at 19:07 UTC | Permalink


Hoyeru , Dec 16 2020 19:24 utc | 1

since when has USA needed evidence? They blamed Saddam for years that he had "weapons of mass distraction". And back in 1990, they created the famous "Iraq solders took babies out fo incubators " lies. Some of us have lived longer than 30 years and we remember all the lies USA has said.

all part of the plan to cut Russia from the SWIFT in 2021.
once Biden becomes a president, he will call on all "democracies" to stand up to Russia. He and other "Western democracies" will hold a joint meeting sometime in 2021 where they will "condemn Russia for all the malign things Russia has done" and will press Belgium to cut Russia fro the SWIFT.
Whats wore, instead of doing anything, Russia is just sitting and watching them instead of warming Europe that this will mean Europe will freeze their collective asses next winter when they won't be able to get Russia gas. Even Iran is warning Russia that they will be cut off from the SWIFT.
Putin is getting old and sick, Russia desperately needs a leader who will stand up to those assholes and warn them to stop. Oh well, it's NOT my problem. Russia better get its asshole oiled up, it will need it. Putin is a weak and inefficient leader, and the SAker IS full of shit.

TH , Dec 16 2020 19:24 utc | 2
I believe that there are a few golden rules that can be applied to news stories:

1) If the first sentence contains a variation of the words "according to," then the story is at least partially bullsh*t
2) If a variation of "according to" is in the headline, then every word of the story is a lie

Roger , Dec 16 2020 19:39 utc | 3
@Hoyeru,

I have to agree with you, the deep state just cannot get over losing Russia to Putin and nationalism after the thought that they had turned it into their playground in the 1990s. They are hot to trot to take out Russia and make it bend the knee, whatever the risks are. Would not put it past them to pull the SWIFT option, although that would have huge implications for the Europeans who buy so much oil and gas from Russia.

It could end up as an own goal, as the Europeans join the Russian payments network and start paying in Euros convertible directly into Rubles (especially with Nordstream 2 in place). The Indians and Chinese are already setup for payments in local currencies. Right now China needs Russia as an ally, so they would also probably re-source oil imports to take more from Russia.

Russia has already made itself self sufficient in food etc., and has been working on payments in local currencies. They are not stupid, and see such a move coming.

iv> Since Wikileaks first publicised its hacking of the infamous Vault 7 emails demonstrating that the CIA had the ability to attach certain metadata to its own hacking activities, to insinuate that Russian or Chinese hackers were responsible (and thus put future investigators on a wrong trail away from the actual culprits), I don't rule out that the CIA and possibly other intel agencies chummy with it may have penetrated FireEye. Especially as these hacking attempts appear to have specific targets and some investors in the companies affected by these hacking attempts seem to employ crystal ball gazers so they were able to divest themselves of huge numbers of shares and make tidy profits before news of the hacking came out which would have sent these hacked companies' share prices down into an abyss. Could some of the hackers themselves be shareholders in the hacked firms?

Posted by: Jen , Dec 16 2020 19:44 utc | 4

Since Wikileaks first publicised its hacking of the infamous Vault 7 emails demonstrating that the CIA had the ability to attach certain metadata to its own hacking activities, to insinuate that Russian or Chinese hackers were responsible (and thus put future investigators on a wrong trail away from the actual culprits), I don't rule out that the CIA and possibly other intel agencies chummy with it may have penetrated FireEye. Especially as these hacking attempts appear to have specific targets and some investors in the companies affected by these hacking attempts seem to employ crystal ball gazers so they were able to divest themselves of huge numbers of shares and make tidy profits before news of the hacking came out which would have sent these hacked companies' share prices down into an abyss. Could some of the hackers themselves be shareholders in the hacked firms?

Posted by: Jen | Dec 16 2020 19:44 utc | 4

William Gruff , Dec 16 2020 19:46 utc | 5
Meanwhile in East Flatrock Tennessee a group of teens is laughing.

"They said our hack was 'an attack by a nation with top-tier offensive capabilities'! You hear that? We're a nation now! With 'top-tier offensive capabilities' at that! How awesome is that?"

gottlieb , Dec 16 2020 19:46 utc | 6
The CIA remains firmly in charge of US policy and the mainstream media.
Jen , Dec 16 2020 19:51 utc | 7
Hoyeru @ 1:

I believe the Russian President's annual Q&A session is taking place on 17 December 2020. It will be televised and probably videos of it will be uploaded to Youtube and other platforms over the next few days. The President's own website will feature transcripts of the session in Russian and English, and probably sevetal other languages. The Q&A session is usually a marathon affair running several hours. If you watch it, you will find out how ill Putin appears to be.

james , Dec 16 2020 19:54 utc | 8
b - master propaganda buster, lol... go get em b! i am surprised they aren't coming after you! maybe they figure you are a relatively obscure presence that will remain irrelevant for all intensive purposes... and they haven't figured out how to pull an assange or snowden on you - yet.... you better have some protection with the kgb and know how to speak a little russian!
vk , Dec 16 2020 19:55 utc | 9
Based on my 25 years in cyber security and responding to incidents, I've concluded we are witnessing an attack by a nation with top-tier offensive capabilities.

Translation: we fucked up and we're gonna blame either China or Russia, depending on the customer's preference (Republican or Democrat), in order to avoid blame and keep our stock prices from falling.

If you go to Fox News et al, I'm sure they'll be blaming China.

karlof1 , Dec 16 2020 20:14 utc | 10
If you've followed Lavrov's trail for the month of December, he's been in top form in his denunciations of the United States of Voldemort and its neverending illegalities and immoral actions. For the curious, the most recent are on the week in review thread. IMO, what constitutes the Outlaw US Empire's mainstream media lacks credibility across the spectrum of potential topics just as does the federal government. The planet will be a happier place if those two entities are just cast away and allowed to drift upon the endless sea of filth they generate daily.
JohninMK , Dec 16 2020 20:21 utc | 11
From what I have read there does not appear to be any malicious intent at any of the targeted organisations, but that might be wrong.

Maybe the attack on FireEye was an intentional way of exposing what they had done. It created some interesting press.

fyi , Dec 16 2020 20:24 utc | 12
Dear All:

The Russian Federation can annihilate the United States and US has no defenses against that.

So they indulge in such self-propaganda exercise, puffing up themselves and their population, and then they go home, knowing that RF can destroy them.

On the other hand, US can annihilate Iran and Iran cannot do anything about that either.

So they indulge in such self-propaganda exercise, puffing up themselves and their population, and then they go home, knowing that US can destroy them.

The only difference between Iran and Russia is that Iran is not a nuclear-armed state, targeting US cities.

I wonder what percentage of Americans are willing to nuke the Russian Federation - in contradistinction to the 59% who are willing to nuke Iran - per this M.I.T. report

https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/ISEC_a_00284.

Framarz , Dec 16 2020 20:24 utc | 13
SL Ayatollah Khamenei by audience of General Soleimani family

"Ayatollah Khamenei said: The funeral of millions of martyrs of Soleimani was the first severe slap in the face to the Americans, but the more severe slap is "software overcoming the absurd hegemony of arrogance" and "expelling the United States from the region". It is definite whenever possible." Fars News Agency 16.12.20

iv> To be honest, this isn't even worth talking about. A non-story that doesn't deserve any oxygen at all.

Posted by: Clifton , Dec 16 2020 20:29 utc | 14

To be honest, this isn't even worth talking about. A non-story that doesn't deserve any oxygen at all.

Posted by: Clifton | Dec 16 2020 20:29 utc | 14

fyi , Dec 16 2020 20:31 utc | 15
Mr. Framarz

The funerals of the late Abu Mehdi Mohandess, the late Brigadier General Solimani and their companions have been unprecedent in the history of Shia Islam - to my knowledge.

Americans carried out an act that betrayed the extent of their hatred for Iran (as a country) and Shia (as a religion).

It was not the act of a sane sovereign - but as I have maintained for a long time - those of a Mad King.

That action, in my opinion, ended the possibility of the United States staying in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Syria, or in Lebanon.

I wonder how the Shia would react, overtime, in the Azerbaijan Republic, in Kuwait, in Bahrain to the United States in the future.

powerandpeople , Dec 16 2020 20:34 utc | 16
"Neither FireEye nor Microsoft named any suspected actor behind the 'difficult-to-attribute' intrusion effort. Next to the NSA and Britain's GHCQ there are at least Israel, China and maybe Russia which do have such capabilities. But whoever had the chutzpah to intrude the cybersecurity company FireEye also blew up their own operation against many targets of much higher value. Years of work and millions of dollars went to waste because of that one mistake."

Well if software+SolarWind+elections = manipulation => proven[before date]

then a country, either from the list of those with 'capabilities', or another whose capablities were until now unknown, will have invalidated the US election.

BIG - IF true.

A big IF.

fyi , Dec 16 2020 20:34 utc | 17
Mr. Clifton

Perhaps it may be not worthwhile to discuss the main topic of this thread but I think it is worthwhile to note it as an indication of the unwillingness to face the World as it is by many in the United States at all levels.

willie , Dec 16 2020 20:56 utc | 18
Now der spiegel,le monde and le figaro have info from Bellingcat about a team of eight FSB spies and chemical specialist following Navalny for years to take him out,yet not succeeding.Even the most gullible "Russia,Russia,Russia" consumers start to find this ridiculous,judging by the comments.Some indeed start to have concerns about a new war on russia ,that will obviously obliterate all of western-europe.

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/fall-alexej-nawalny-mutmassliche-taeter-eines-geheimdienstkommandos-enttarnt-a-19e6378b-1726-4fce-9058-f78adb197828

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/alexej-nawalny-der-kreml-und-der-anschlag-auf-wladimir-putins-angstgegner-a-00000000-0002-0001-0000-000172728796

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/alexej-nawalny-kreml-medien-verschweigen-neue-erkenntnisse-zum-giftanschlag-a-1f9bcbec-c454-48fd-9ed7-e9021e74651d

They had four articles about this in two days.Mockingbird in full speed.It is very clear to me now that Spiegel ex-journo Udo Ulfkotte was "heartattacked" for outing CIA mastering der Spiegel in his book.

Mao Cheng Ji , Dec 16 2020 21:04 utc | 19
"This attack is different from the tens of thousands of incidents we have responded to throughout the years.[...] ...this was the work of a highly sophisticated state-sponsored attacker utilizing novel techniques"

"Incidents we have responded to"? Meh. Also, this "attack" may or may not be different from the (likely) tens of thousands of incidents that they've never detected.

willie , Dec 16 2020 21:13 utc | 20
Facebook discovered and neutralized a troll farm's accounts related to the french army in Central African Republic and Mali,working against russian st.petersburg related trollfarm accounts,that they neutralized as well.This is all about the french countering russians (and chinese) getting foothold amongst africans,you know the people they threw napalm on in the fifties,like they did in Vietnam way before the americans,to pacify those people.

https://www.01net.com/actualites/facebook-demantele-un-reseau-de-trolls-de-l-armee-francaise-en-afrique-2019443.html

https://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/afrique-facebook-ferme-de-faux-comptes-de-desinformation-lies-a-l-armee-francaise-20201216


https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/l-ombre-des-services-secrets-russes-derriere-l-affaire-navalny-20201215

Norwegian , Dec 16 2020 21:14 utc | 21
Their initial analysis supports our conclusion that this was the work of a highly sophisticated state-sponsored attacker utilizing novel techniques.

So just fake or the CIA.

This is getting boring.

willie , Dec 16 2020 21:20 utc | 22
And of course Navalny is such a hot item that bellingcats's video on youtube got 10 million viewers within 48 hours.War on Russia,who is marching on Moscou,any volunteers?The germans and the french were not very lucky with that in the past,let the united americans have a try,after all its only europe that is meant for destruction either way.The Rotschilds will be proud of you.
Framarz , Dec 16 2020 21:21 utc | 23
@Norwegian 21

For me it was enough to read in the news that U.S. Treasury and Commerce department was among the targets to know who stand behind this operation. It must be very humiliating for US government, that's why the synchronous chorus about the "Russian Cyberattack", they know well that it was not Russia ...

U.S. Treasury and Commerce department is the driving force behind "maximum pressure" sanctions against Iran, terrorizing the Iranian population even blocking trade of medicine necessary for the treatment of kids with chronically illness.

Now Iranians sit with a complete list of U.S. Treasury and Commerce executives and their secrets, that would make it difficult for these economical terrorists to have a relaxing sleep at night. The extra bonus is what Iran got from all other US departments, useful for the future.
US need to restructure a whole lot of their IT network. protocols, hardware, even administrators at government and security level to repair at least part of the damage done.

Khameneie calls it a "sever slap" for the assassination of general Soleimani, one must agree a mind-blowing one indeed ...

uncle tungsten , Dec 16 2020 21:28 utc | 24
b reports FireEye saying
"We are actively investigating in coordination with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other key partners, including Microsoft. Their initial analysis supports our conclusion that this was the work of a highly sophisticated state-sponsored attacker utilizing novel techniques."

Interpreted as "we screwed up, that Microsoft Defender software is a POS and to think FireEye AND FBI relied on their crap upgrades - we had better blame Russia and save our total embarrassment.

uncle tungsten , Dec 16 2020 21:36 utc | 25
willie #18
They had four articles about this in two days.Mockingbird in full speed.It is very clear to me now that Spiegel ex-journo Udo Ulfkotte was "heartattacked" for outing CIA mastering der Spiegel in his book.

Thank you and I fully agree - 'heartbreaker herb' is native to a few eastern countries and known as an end of life choice of tea that is used by malign actors for centuries. Hard to find a reference to it these days as most search engines have hidden it. One used to be able to read of it.

karlof1 , Dec 16 2020 21:36 utc | 26
willie @22--

The "united americans" had their try during Russia's Civil War but didn't get very far. Then they tried carpetbagging neoliberal parasites, and they failed too, although they did considerable damage. Currently within the Outlaw US Empire, about as many people are out of work as reside within all of Russia, and their government cares not a whit what happens to them. On the other hand, President Putin has made it clear on many occasions that every Russian life is treasured by him and the Russian government, with more support given Russians than at any previous time by the USSR.

karlof1 , Dec 16 2020 21:41 utc | 27
Framarz @23--

The Outlaw US Empire is woeful when it comes to IT. Medicare today still runs on DOS, and it's likely many other departments do as well.

William Gruff , Dec 16 2020 21:42 utc | 28
Just so that everyone knows that what this => Framarz @23 poster says is entirely possible, back in the olden days when I was helping with Linux kernel space stuff Iran was one of the top five countries where code was being submitted from. Iran has more than just a few very sharp codesmiths.
Rob , Dec 16 2020 21:50 utc | 29
Regarding the David Sanger fantasy piece published in the NYT, I commented on the Times's website that Sanger made the claim of Russian culpability without providing a shred of actual evidence. Much to my surprise, my comment was accepted for publication. Shortly thereafter, it mysteriously vanished into the ether, no doubt having been read and removed by some editor or even by slimeball Sanger himself. Now that was not a surprise.
Framarz , Dec 16 2020 21:53 utc | 30
Thanks for your contribution but it's crystal clear that Khamenei took the responsibility for this operation today, looking at the eyes of Soleimani's daughter and saying what he said: (english text)

fna(dot)ir/f1cm2o

- looks like use of (ir) domain causing the text to be blocked, convert the dot

c1ue , Dec 16 2020 22:21 utc | 31
Indeed - if there's anything to be learned, it is that cyber security even in government intel agencies (Snowden), the military (Manning), political parties (Clinton emails) and now FireEye plus numerous other Solarwinds customers - is marked more for what it isn't than for what it is.
This on top of the damage caused by NotPetya and WannaCry - both of which did so much damage because clearly even Fortune 50 companies don't bother to segment their networks even between countries.
Incompetence and CYA rules the day.
iv> framarz link might show up later.. i just posted it, but it is in the cue to be released later, or not..

Posted by: james , Dec 16 2020 22:58 utc | 32

framarz link might show up later.. i just posted it, but it is in the cue to be released later, or not..

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2020 22:58 utc | 32

gm , Dec 16 2020 23:05 utc | 33
Re: They had four articles about this in two days.Mockingbird in full speed.It is very clear to me now that Spiegel ex-journo Udo Ulfkotte was "heartattacked" for outing CIA mastering der Spiegel in his book.

-Posted by: willie | Dec 16 2020 20:56 utc | 18

Didn't know that until you shared just now. Really terrible if true, but not that surprising given recent events. Wikipedia sez he died 13 January 2017 (aged 56). That would have happened during the Obama/Brennan period.

Lurk , Dec 16 2020 23:11 utc | 34
@ uncle tungsten | Dec 16 2020 21:36 utc | 25

If I understand correctly what you're hinting at, then I'll add that the alps and the nordic countries are also rife with it. It's principle active alkaloid is easily to determine port-mortem and if you're lucky, a good clinician will also diagnose it correctly before it's too late..

Less easy to pinpoint are the effects of targeted exposure with masers.

Peter AU1 , Dec 16 2020 23:37 utc | 35
"But whoever had the chutzpah to intrude the cybersecurity company FireEye also blew up their own operation against many targets of much higher value. Years of work and millions of dollars went to waste because of that one mistake."

yankistan propaganda always inserts a clause to show that hackers are bumblers. Reading the very short one sentence report in Reuters, the yanks got hit hard. pompus had to fly home and cut short his cold/hot war rabble rousing efforts.

arby , Dec 16 2020 23:56 utc | 36
Peter AU1 @ 35

I read that sentence as well and I assumed that b wrote that.

Michael , Dec 17 2020 0:31 utc | 37
@35 Peter

Thank you so much for "Yankistan". That sums it up nicely.

b's observation also gives a clue that it may very well be a white hat attack by the NSA. Lucky for us they could go the extra mile and give it some "positive" spin. Snark.

Bemildred , Dec 17 2020 0:34 utc | 38
The Register has some info on the hack:

US Treasury, Dept of Commerce hacks linked to SolarWinds IT monitoring software supply-chain attack

chu teh , Dec 17 2020 0:44 utc | 39
[This post not appear, so here it is without links]

Whatever is the definition of "intelligence", certainly it must be inclusive of this example, from Khamenei:

"Lifting sanctions is up to the enemy, but nullifying them is up to us'"

Also, he said "We must be strong in all areas, including economy, science, technology and defense, because as long as we do not grow strong, the enemies will not give up greed and aggression."

Now, compare that last to JV Stalin's 1931 speech in the run-up to WW 2:

"One feature of the history of old Russia was the continual beatings she suffered because of her backwardness. ... All beat her -- because of her backwardness, because of her military backwardness, cultural backwardness, political backwardness, industrial backwardness, agricultural backwardness. They beat her because it was profitable and could be done with impunity..."

Interesting, eh?

Hat-tip to Framarz | Dec 16 2020 21:53 utc | 30 for Khamenei link.
Stalin's speech link to follow...if it posts.

chu teh , Dec 17 2020 0:48 utc | 40
Here is link to JV Stalin speech in #40, above.


https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/02/04.htm

_K_C_ , Dec 17 2020 0:53 utc | 41
This cyber attack has NSA written all over it. Either that or the attackers had access to the tools that were leaked from the NSA trove. The tactics at least are very similar in some ways.

@willie - I posted a link to CNN's joint investigation with Bellingcat, Der Spiegel, and "The Insider" the other day in the open thread. Nobody seemed to have noticed. Looks like Russia has responded to them.

Quote: This report is funny to read.

I didn't have time to delve into all the different pages that comprise Bellingcat's allegations nor did I see anywhere in their stated methodology how they got access to these phone records that they're claiming correspond to the agents tailing Navalny. At least they didn't call him "opposition leader" this time - just "opposition activist" or something like that. LOL I'll be interested to see b's take on this affair once he's had time to digest it - and there is a lot to digest.

Clifton , Dec 17 2020 1:14 utc | 42
What is so cynical is that during the last three years of fake "Russian Collusion" certain politicians were colluding with the Chinese CCP, ie in actuality doing what they were accusing Trump of doing. Inevitable now that there is big trouble brewing in the US, I don't see how all the fraud evidence on every level can be disregarded, let alone apparent foreign involvement in the voting machines.
iv> Russians get blamed for everything:
https://fair.org/home/a-cia-officer-has-a-headache-media-blame-russia/
and via the lobster,
https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster80/lob80-view-from-the-bridge.pdf?cache=228
the killing of Gareth Williams of MI6
< https://tinyurl.com/y4t3dmuj>
We are very close to the point at which the lies http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56040.htm
become so ridiculous that they lose their power to confuse.
And there is bellingcat who now leads the front page of The Guardian with his fairy tales.
Luckily in addition to b we have http://johnhelmer.net/

Posted by: bevin , Dec 17 2020 1:30 utc | 43

Russians get blamed for everything:
https://fair.org/home/a-cia-officer-has-a-headache-media-blame-russia/
and via the lobster,
https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster80/lob80-view-from-the-bridge.pdf?cache=228
the killing of Gareth Williams of MI6
< https://tinyurl.com/y4t3dmuj>
We are very close to the point at which the lies http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56040.htm
become so ridiculous that they lose their power to confuse.
And there is bellingcat who now leads the front page of The Guardian with his fairy tales.
Luckily in addition to b we have http://johnhelmer.net/

Posted by: bevin | Dec 17 2020 1:30 utc | 43

bevin , Dec 17 2020 1:32 utc | 44
Sorry KC@41 I missed your comment which puts the point much better
snake , Dec 17 2020 1:40 utc | 45
western' mainstream writers will blame Russia for anything completely independent of what really happened.

can we get a list of these writers.. and store their names and aliases somewhere. a db.. is needed.


b - master propaganda buster, lol... go get em b! i am surprised the oligarch wealth and its minions haven't
figured out how to pull an assange or snowden on you - yet.... you better have some protection with the kgb
and know how to speak a little russian! by: james @ 8

James I think the propaganda monsters have discovered how to take b down, they
probably plan to ask B to self inject himself with one of their Gene Modifying
Vaccines(GMVs) with expectation that a mental giant will vegetate to a wimp.
.....
The CIA remains firmly in charge of US policy and the mainstream media. by: gottlieb @ 6

Not really, the people who support and control the CIA have firm control over politics,
finance, CIA, and media, remember the nine layers of control consist of but two layers
that are public. The CIA is the leg breaker arm of that oligarch cartel. .. .. but mr gottlieb
please list who in the CIA is the leg breaker in charge over US Policy and explain
how US Policy, CIA leg breaking, mainstream media, wall street execution are financed
marketed and coordinated. I suggest to you these are not government people but private
party marketers.

Just saying a bunch of puppets dressed in CIA suits are in charge is useless.. I will
bet when you identify to us, who it is you are talking about, it will be discovered the
person you think is in charge is not, but instead that person is executing orders given
by a private party someone else. Its the private party some one else that needs media exposure.

who (by name) do the puppets work for,
how can the string pullers be identified, and
Ill bet because the string pullers are not government at all, but private exploitative
persons, that can be legally tracked?

To Norwegian @ 21 fascinating The private parties most likely responsible (PPMLR) for the
cyber attack have been asked to investigate the victim of the cyber attack. The PPMLR's
initial findings support the victim pre investigation conclusion made before the investigation
was complete that the cyber attack was the work of a highly sophisticated state
sponsored attacker utilizing novel techniques? Not all of us were born yesterday?

psychohistorian , Dec 17 2020 2:14 utc | 46
What I haven't seen reported yet is that the voting machine company Dominion is a Solarwinds customer.....
....
....
think of the implications of that
J W , Dec 17 2020 2:41 utc | 47
If the Russians did it, usual sore loser antics by the US.
If the Russians didn't, usual propaganda lies by the US.

Either way, Yankistan still sucks.

gottlieb , Dec 17 2020 2:45 utc | 48
Snake@45..

You're not wrong... points taken. The nexus between the moneyed elite and 'intelligence' has always been there. Cheers.

[Dec 17, 2020] The mass media consumers themselves are the product that is being sold. Moreover, just as cattle that is bulked up on hormones and other crap yields a higher profit when sold to the slaughterhouse, mass media consumers whose minds are properly conditioned yield higher profits for the capitalists.

Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Dec 16 2020 12:34 utc | 105

librul @86

I get that feeling whenever I watch any current mass media programming .

Doubtless you understand it, but many people insist upon misunderstanding a crucial point about capitalist mass media, so I will frequently comment on it to remind people:

Capitalism is all about bringing products to market and selling them for a profit. The mass media programming that consumers are fed is not the product any more than is the feed that is laced with chemicals and hormones and that the feed lots put in the feed bunks for the cattle. The mass media consumers themselves are the product that is being sold. Moreover, just as cattle that is bulked up on hormones and other crap yields a higher profit when sold to the slaughterhouse, mass media consumers whose minds are properly conditioned yield higher profits for the capitalists.

There is no such thing as "wholesome and organic" capitalist mass media programming that is free of the mind control additives. All infotainment and entertainment (yes, 100% and with no exceptions) exists to condition the viewer/consumer for "The Market™" (hallowed be Its name).

There is a loophole. The narratives that mass media plants in people's minds are not static. Capitalists' needs differ from time to time, from region to region, and even from demographic to demographic. Consuming mass media that was produced for cultures radically different from one's own and/or in times quite distant from the present should be relatively safe, and the psychological steroids contained in it intended to steer mental development into line with the herd might have minimal effect. After all, in this situation the consumer is nowhere near the herd that the programming is intended to get the consumer to join, so that programming will possibly fail.

This exception itself has an exception, though. The TV programming to sell capitalism to American consumers back in the 1970s and 1980s ended up having a profound impact upon Soviet citizens even though their culture was very distant from the target audiences of the soap operas, police dramas, and sitcoms that they watched on pirated videocassettes in makeshift mini theaters. Just thinking of how their defenseless minds were brutally raped by high potency capitalist propaganda intended for jaded Americans with years of built-up resistance and tolerance to that crap makes me nauseous.

[Dec 17, 2020] Populist progressives have no friends and, in fact, face layer upon layer of blockers some obvious but many diabolically deceitful.

Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

davenitup , Dec 16 2020 15:58 utc | 121

Populist progressives have no friends and, in fact, face layer upon layer of blockers some obvious but many diabolically deceitful. Only physical overthrow of the system will accomplish what they desire. Of course, there will be lip service and maybe even some action like enough UBI to keep the debt ponzi going and to keep the bourgeois from having their lives too impacted by the unwashed.

Populist conservatives don't generally want to take handouts and certainly don't want any given. And while many jobs are gone the populist conservatives dominate the military, law enforcement, fire, and many other public service jobs and also manage who gets those type of jobs via an informal good ole boy network they seem to be okay with the arrangement.

Populist conservatives also love authority and chain of command so while they may not love wall st\corporate\elite handouts, those handouts don't change hierarchy. What they will not allow is for other common people to get anything that could be seen as cutting in line except for maybe themselves and protectors of their "values", in which case, they prefer to be discrete and exclusionary.

[Dec 17, 2020] The relevant authority has finally called the U.S. presidential election

Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

President of Russia @KremlinRussia_E - 8:43 UTC · Dec 15, 2020

Joseph R. Biden @JoeBiden has been declared the winner of the US presidential election. Congratulations from Vladimir Putin:

Vladimir Putin sent a message to Joseph R. Biden congratulating him on his victory in the presidential election in the United States of America.

[Dec 17, 2020] Do they know something that we don't?

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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blanketof ash 8 hours ago

Electors will use paper ballots to cast their votes for president and vice president.

Paper ballots?

Do they know something that we don't?

[Dec 17, 2020] On Alito backpedaling: two possibilities -- coward or neolib pussi

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

y_arrow


High Vigilante 1 day ago

Hmmm. So there was a fight in the SCOTUS. Here is the link: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/loud-arguments-in-us-supreme-court-chambers-over-texas-lawsuit-court-intimidated

quanttech 1 day ago

Hal Turner - a pretend "Nazi" who was/is an FBI informant (look it up) and was convicted anyway of threatening a judge. I'm not clicking on a Hal Turner link because it is, by definition, disinformation. Don't take my word for it, look it up yourself.

Totally_Disillusioned 1 day ago

Robert's intimidated by the rioting? Wonder what threats were made on him, his family...

homericninjas 1 day ago

Don't rule out him simply being a gutless poosie

[Dec 17, 2020] Year Zero. The year when the global capitalist ruling classes did away with the illusion of democracy and reminded everyone who is actually in charge, and exactly what happens when anyone challenges them.

Highly recommended!
Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

gm , Dec 17 2020 8:32 utc | 160

The latest from C J Hopkins:

https://www.unz.com/chopkins/year-zero/

[Not his usual humorous satire this time]

2020 was GloboCap Year Zero. The year when the global capitalist ruling classes did away with the illusion of democracy and reminded everyone who is actually in charge, and exactly what happens when anyone challenges them.
[...]
GloboCap is not insane, however. They know exactly what they are doing which is teaching us a lesson, a lesson about power. A lesson about who has it and who doesn't. For students of history it's a familiar lesson, a standard in the repertoire of empires, not to mention the repertoire of penal institutions.

The name of the lesson is "Look What We Can Do to You Any Time We Fucking Want." The point of the lesson is self-explanatory. The USA taught the world this lesson when it nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. GloboCap (and the US military) taught it again when they invaded Iraq and destabilized the entire Greater Middle East. It is regularly taught in penitentiaries when the prisoners start to get a little too unruly and remember that they outnumber the guards. That's where the "lockdown" concept originated. It isn't medical terminology. It is penal institution terminology.

[Dec 17, 2020] One fairly certain sign of lying is the use of hyperbole

Dec 17, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Bill H , 16 December 2020 at 07:45 PM

This election was "the most secure in history" was it? One fairly certain sign of lying is the use of hyperbole.

[Dec 17, 2020] 'People familiar with the issue' say 'Russia is believed to be responsible'. Well, some kids familiar with wobbly teeth believe in the tooth fairy. What is that 'believe' based on?

Operation Mokingbird2: looks like the CIA remains firmly in charge of US policy and the mainstream media.
Notable quotes:
"... 1) If the first sentence contains a variation of the words "according to," then the story is at least partially bullsh*t . (2) If a variation of "according to" is in the headline, then every word of the story is a lie ..."
"... What is so cynical is that during the last three years of fake "Russian Collusion" certain politicians were colluding with the Chinese CCP, ie in actuality doing what they were accusing Trump of doing. ..."
Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
TH , Dec 16 2020 19:24 utc | 2

I believe that there are a few golden rules that can be applied to news stories:

1) If the first sentence contains a variation of the words "according to," then the story is at least partially bullsh*t . (2) If a variation of "according to" is in the headline, then every word of the story is a lie


Clifton , Dec 17 2020 1:14 utc | 42

What is so cynical is that during the last three years of fake "Russian Collusion" certain politicians were colluding with the Chinese CCP, ie in actuality doing what they were accusing Trump of doing. Inevitable now that there is big trouble brewing in the US, I don't see how all the fraud evidence on every level can be disregarded, let alone apparent foreign involvement in the voting machines.

Rob , Dec 16 2020 21:50 utc | 29

Regarding the David Sanger fantasy piece published in the NYT, I commented on the Times's website that Sanger made the claim of Russian culpability without providing a shred of actual evidence. Much to my surprise, my comment was accepted for publication.

Shortly thereafter, it mysteriously vanished into the ether, no doubt having been read and removed by some editor or even by slimeball Sanger himself. Now that was not a surprise.

bevin , Dec 17 2020 1:30 utc | 43

Russians get blamed for everything:
https://fair.org/home/a-cia-officer-has-a-headache-media-blame-russia/
and via the lobster,
https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster80/lob80-view-from-the-bridge.pdf?cache=228
the killing of Gareth Williams of MI6
< https://tinyurl.com/y4t3dmuj>
We are very close to the point at which the lies http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56040.htm
become so ridiculous that they lose their power to confuse.

And there is bellingcat who now leads the front page of The Guardian with his fairy tales. Luckily in addition to b we have http://johnhelmer.net/

J W , Dec 17 2020 2:41 utc | 47

If the Russians did it, usual sore loser antics by the US.
If the Russians didn't, usual propaganda lies by the US.

Either way, Yankistan still sucks.

[Dec 17, 2020] The faces of neoliberal corruption

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Biden = Clinton = Bush = Obama = Holder = Rice = Podesta = corruption

If voting meant real change, it would be illegal.

QE4MeASAP 1 hour ago remove link

Election was a deep state coup. Notice how fast justice came for Manafort, Stone and Flynn. When it's the left under investigation, unending delays.

mtl4 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

Also notice how the riots suddenly ended?! BLM? Antifa? Mysteriously quiet now.

[Dec 17, 2020] Watch Live- Electoral College Casts Votes

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Cognitive dissonance 5 hours ago remove link

So I assume Dominion will tabulate the ballots?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Dec 13, 2020] Female head of Soros-linked, US-government backed American NGO expelled from Russia for subversive activities

Dec 13, 2020 | www.rt.com

Ohhho

1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 12:10 PM
A memo for the Russian government: if the Western MSM condemns your actions then you did the right thing. If it prizes whatever you did: repent and reverse!
Donald1958 19 hours ago 13 Dec, 2020 01:13 AM
Maybe Vanessa Kogan can now move back to the US or the UK and try to get justice for Julian Assange. See how succesful she will be with that.

[Dec 13, 2020] The Spy who came in from the cold is now cold himself.

Dec 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Dec 13 2020 23:54 utc | 58

The Spy who came in from the cold is now cold himself. David Cornwell, aka John le Carré, passes at 89 . Good thing I haven't read all his books or seen all the films based on them yet.

[Dec 13, 2020] Western media condemns Soros US-government backed American NGO chief's expulsion from Russia, but ignores lobby group's fun

Dec 13, 2020 | www.rt.com

By Kit Klarenberg , an investigative journalist exploring the role of intelligence services in shaping politics and perceptions. Follow Kit on Twitter @KitKlarenberg Western journalists, rights groups and governments are concerned about the head of a foreign NGO being asked to leave Russia. However, serious discussion of the organization's background, and funding sources, is completely absent.

Last week, it was announced that Moscow had revoked the residency of Vanessa Kogan, a US national who heads the NGO Stichting Justice Initiative (SJI) in Russia. If her appeal against the decision isn't successful, she'll be forced to leave the country, where she has lived for over a decade, and has two children who are Russian nationals.

Authorities had been mounting pressure on the organization for some time -- one of its branches was deemed a foreign agent in 2019, and the group's offices in Dagestan, Moscow, and Ingushetia have been raided by officials in recent months.

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Condemnation from Western media and rights groups was immediate, with the issue framed as just the latest example of an ongoing autocratic crackdown on rights activists in Russia. The censures were intriguing for what they both did and didn't say.

Perhaps predictably, references to its almost entirely foreign-borne history, composition, finances -- which includes support from George Soros' Open Society Foundation (OSF) -- and ties to dubious Washington-based regime change entities were entirely absent.

Curiouser and curiouser

Mainstream outlets such as the UK's Guardian newspaper universally referred to Kogan and SJI as "prominent" and/or "well-known" , a somewhat peculiar characterizations given neither she nor the organization received virtually any media attention whatsoever in its nigh-on 20 years of operation, prior to her residency being revoked. Perhaps she and SJI are only familiar to the small community of Western journalists and activists in the Russian capital.

In any event, several genuinely high-profile organizations and figures, such as Peter Stano, European Commission lead spokesperson for external affairs, slammed Kogan's expulsion on Twitter - SJI's own account on the social network is largely dormant, having accrued just 231 followers in its four-and-half years on the platform.

Conversely, the numerous mainstream articles on the move made virtually no reference to the organization's funding sources -- The Guardian perhaps went furthest, at least hinting SJI receives financial support "from abroad" .

A joint statement signed by six NGOs was similarly opaque on the former question, merely noting SJI was "one of the most active in Russia in bringing cases" to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), and had secured over 250 judgements in favor of complainants. Curiously, there was no mention of the intimate ties between SJI and two of the cosignatories, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, an oversight one might think unethical.

The sextet moreover alleged SJI "has always been open and transparent about its work" , a claim difficult to square with the paucity of information on its official website.

A section on the organization's finances sparingly notes it "raises funds from institutional and government donors" . Financial statements are provided, but only from 2010 - 2017, and aren't at all informative, merely noting SJI's yearly income, and what it was spent on. Still, they indicate the vast bulk of its budget is goes on salaries, and grants have accounted for up to 99 percent of the organization's yearly funding.

The organization's annual reports are somewhat more illuminating, although they're only available from 2006 - 2011, and the final instalment isn't even publicly listed. They reveal SJI has at least previously been funded by a number of controversial Western 'philanthropic' organizations, including Soros' aforementioned OSF.

This vehicle, which bankrolls civil society groups the world over to the tune of many millions, has been embroiled in countless controversies since its establishment in 1993.

Mounting suspicion of OSF internationally may at least partially explain why SJI has become ever-increasingly unwilling to divulge who and what is bankrolling it over time. Recent years have seen numerous governments investigate and curtail the foundation's activities, if not outright ban it from operating on their soil - among them Russia, after Moscow ruled the organization represented a threat to national security in November 2015.

SJI's fiscal opacity is assisted by being based in the Netherlands - as its name implies, it's a 'Stichting', or foundation. While not registered as a charity, it's characterised as being "without commercial enterprise" , so isn't required to file accounts under Dutch law.

'Stichtings' are openly advertised as ideal ways for wealthy individuals and corporations to minimize tax liabilities and discretely distribute funds internationally.

Murky, incestuous web

The organization's 2011 annual report reveals SJI was established in 2001 by a trio of Dutchmen, Diederik Lohman, the director of Human Rights Watch's health division, Jan ter Laak, a theologian, and Egbert Wesselink, a senior advisor at PAX, a Netherlands-based NGO.

Further underlining SJI's foreign nature, its governing board boasts only one Russian member, Alexandra Koulaeva. Previously an activist with Moscow-based civil rights group Memorial, she has since relocated to Paris to work for the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH).

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FIDH likewise receives OSF funding, along with financial support from the European Union, Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and a variety of Western governments. Wesselink also sits on the board -- PAX has the same correspondence address as SJI, a post office box in Utrecht, and also gets OSF funding.

The rest of the board is comprised of Ole Solvang, of the Norwegian Refugee Council, Tanya Mazur, director of Amnesty International Ukraine, and Viviana Krstecevic, of the Center for Justice and International Law (CEJIL).

The Council is bankrolled by numerous European states, while CEJIL has a variety of international donors, among them OSF, and the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

When covert becomes overt

The connection between NED and SJI is supremely striking for more reasons than one. Firstly, NED was banned in Russia July 2015 on the same grounds as OSF -- the move was widely lambasted at the time, but any consideration of the organization's shadowy history and activities, and the role they played in motivating Moscow's decision, was conspicuously missing.

NED was founded in November 1983 - then-Central Intelligence Agency Director William Casey and senior CIA covert operations specialist Walter Raymond Jr. were instrumental in its creation.

They sought to construct a mechanism to support groups inside foreign countries that would engage in propaganda and political action the CIA had historically organized and paid for in secret. In 1991, senior NED official Allen Weinstein acknowledged "a lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA" .

The specifics of CEJIL's activities on behalf of NED, for which it has reaped hundreds of thousands of dollars over decades, may be relevant to assessing SJI's own work.

In September 2003, the organization granted CEJIL US$83,000 to train citizens in launching legal action against Caracas via the Inter-American Commission and Inter-American Court of Human Rights, a little-known yet extremely powerful Washington and Costa Rica-based legal nexus that claims jurisdiction over the entirety of the Americas, with the agreement of the Organization of American States.

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The grant led to a dramatic increase in frivolous claims brought against the Venezuelan government by opposition activists, all of which circumvented the country's legal system and undermined its sovereignty, granting power of judgment to a potentially sympathetic foreign body.

SJI board member Viviana Krsticevic's official biography on CEJIL's website notes she has litigated cases before both the Inter-American Commission and Inter-American Court of Human Rights, strongly suggesting she was involved in these very NED-funded anti-Chavez efforts.

SJI says its purpose is to provide legal support to residents of the North Caucasus who seek justice for alleged human rights abuses through international bodies such as the ECHR.

When Chechnya declared independence from Russia in 1991, the region became a haven for criminals, kidnappers, and Islamist warlords, and over the course of two extremely brutal wars, December 1994 – August 1996, August 1999 - May 2000), enforced disappearances, extra-judicial killings, torture and unfair trial became routine.

Such crimes continue intermittently to this day, and few would surely argue with the moral necessity of bringing those responsible to justice and securing redress for those affected.

Nonetheless, the risk of at least some cases being without foundation and/or politically motivated is significant, a prospect demonstrably magnified when there is a financial incentive for individuals to bring cases, and organizations specifically seek out individuals to represent in such legal actions.

For example, in February 2017 award winning British lawyer Phil Shiner, who'd played a leading role in bringing legal action against British troops for their maltreatment of Iraqis following the 2003 invasion, was struck off the solicitors' register. It had been revealed he paid middlemen to seek out claimants, and made "unsolicited direct approaches" to potential clients.

Could SJI have helped facilitate potentially vexatious claims against Russia in the ECHR? Krsticevic's position on the organization's board suggests this is a possibility, and the organization's 2010 annual report makes clear the organization specifically sought out young Russian lawyers and trained them to bring cases to the Court, and boasts of how financial rewards paid to out its claimants had almost doubled over the past decade, to an average of €60,000 - 70,000.

At the very least, the same document makes clear "forcing structural change in Russian law and policy" was a key objective of its founders from the beginning.

As such, SJI is just one example of how Western powers quietly and surreptitiously influence politics and policy in "enemy" states via NGOs, under the aegis of democracy and human rights promotion. While the aims of the foreign funded organizations in question may be benign, the goals of those bankrolling them are often far from benevolent, and all too frequently left unexamined.

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francismd 1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 09:11 AM

what surprises me is Russia allowing NGOs to operate in their country. NGO is a trojan horse. do you actually believe that these NGOs have good intentions. There is no such thing as free.
DoubleKnot 1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 09:02 AM
,...Her expulsion is just Russia's auto-immune system in function.
shadow1369 1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 07:43 AM
If corporate media is rattled that is proof absolute that Kogan was doing their dirty work. Maybe she should not be expelled, but rather prosecuted for sedition. NATO routinely uses fake 'journalists' and NGOs to undermine any country which stands against US tyranny.
Ohhho 1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 12:10 PM
A memo for the Russian government: if the Western MSM condemns your actions then you did the right thing. If it prizes whatever you did: repent and reverse!
gswew 1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 09:55 AM
huh? you evicted 1 person but the NGO is still open? why???? Close down all of them!!!!
Jeff_P 1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 12:22 PM
I'm stunned that other countries allow foreign "NGO's" to operate in their countries. Many are naught but moles operating to undermine the countries in which they operate. Especially if that CIA front operation NED is in any way involved.
AnnaMR 1 day ago 12 Dec, 2020 11:36 AM
Oh, poor "prominent" Kogan. How about the sadistic imprisonment/torture of the political prisoner and great journalist Julian Assange? As for Ms. Alexandra Koulaeva, a former "activist with Moscow-based civil rights group," who relocated to Paris to "work for the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH)," does she have a shred of decency to tell a word or two to her FIDH' bosses about the imprisonment of Julian Assange? No? Then Ms. Alexandra Koulaeva is a presstitute, a regular opportunistic hypocrite with no brains and no soul.
Srinivas Injeti 15 hours ago 13 Dec, 2020 05:12 AM
99% of these NGO do anti-national activities in the garb of social and welfare activities. They are also used for spying and creating unrest and sponsoring terrorist and subversive activities. They are used to create uprisings against the ruling parties which do not bow down to the diktat of the US and its western stooges. It is better to ban all these NGOs and their affiliations.
NonDucorDuco 15 hours ago 13 Dec, 2020 05:07 AM
What else could one expect from the Dutch, known for being huge hypocrites with double standards. They have their mouth full of Human Rights, but are one of the EU countries known for the highest rate of discrimination against immigrants and treating their own nationals in the Caribbean part of their kingdom as 3rd class citizens. The Dutch politicians volunteered to become a loyal sheepdog for the US regime, misusing their Caribbean territorial waters to provide cover for the destabilizing covert US regime OPS against neighboring Venezuela ~ against the will of the Caribbean natives whom have strong family ties with Venezuela. Another example is the biased report on the downing of the NH-17 flight, which was clearly a False Flag OPS.
Jewel Gyn 16 hours ago 13 Dec, 2020 05:07 AM
US is so full of crap and double standards you can't take it seriously. Ditto all these state-sponsored rights group. They acted immediately when their interests are threatened but vanish and lay low when it don't suit their narratives.

[Dec 13, 2020] "The Century of The Common Man"

Dec 13, 2020 | archive.org

"The march of freedom of the past one hundred and fifty years has been a long-drawn-out people's revolution. In this Great Revolution of the people, there were the American Revolution of 1775, The French Revolution of 1792, The Latin-American revolutions of the Bolivarian era, The German Revolution of 1848, and the Russian Revolution of 1917. Each spoke for the common man in terms of blood on the battlefield. Some went to excess. But the significant thing is that the people groped their way to the light. More of them learned to think and work together....

"The people are on the march toward even fuller freedom than the most fortunate peoples of the earth have hitherto enjoyed. No Nazi counter-revolution will stop it. The common man will smoke the Hitler stooges out into the open in the United States, in Latin America, and in India. He will destroy their influence. No Lavals, no Mussolinis will be tolerated in a Free World.

"The people, in their millennial and revolutionary march toward manifesting here on earth the dignity that is in every human soul, hold as their credo the Four Freedoms enunciated by President Roosevelt in his message to Congress on January 6, 1941. These four freedoms are the very core of the revolution for which the United Nations have taken their stand. We who live in the United States may think there is nothing very revolutionary about freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and freedom from the fear of secret police. But when we begin to think about the significance of freedom from want for the average man, then we know that the revolution of the past one hundred and fifty years has not been completed, either here in the United States or in any other nation in the world. We know that this revolution can not stop until freedom from want has actually been attained .

"And now, as we move forward toward realizing the Four Freedoms of this people's revolution, I would like to speak about four duties. It is my belief that every freedom, every right, every privilege has its price, its corresponding duty without which it can not be enjoyed. The four duties of the people's revolution, as I see them today, are these:

1. The duty to produce the limit.
2. The duty to transport as rapidly as possible to the field of battle.
3. The duty to fight with all that is in us.
4. The duty to build a peace -- just, charitable and enduring.

"The fourth duty is that which inspires the other three ."

Wallace laments about the failure after WW1; but when he spoke, few knew the actual reasons for the war, although Wallace was correct that it wasn't to serve the Common Man's interest. To solve the basic problem that in reality goes back 4-5,000 years. Wallace then drives the nail home:

"We did not build a peace treaty on the fundamental doctrine of the people's revolution. We did not strive whole-heartedly to create a world where there could be freedom from want for all peoples . But by our very errors we learned much, and after this war we shall be in position to utilize our knowledge in building a world which is economically, politically and, I hope, spiritually sound."

The United Nations contained within it the above vision that it could become the vehicle for attaining the goals enunciated in that last sentence. It's now 75 years later, and it appears we might have an opportunity to attain Wallace's, FDR's, and numerous others dream goal of an unfettered people living in harmony while enjoying those four basic freedoms, but most importantly, the freedom from want and the chains of debt that attends it always .

Wallace knew about banks and finance from the farmer's POV for he was a member of a longstanding Iowa farming family--the Iowa Asgards. And he knew about the Devilish threats within the USA to the Four Freedoms as he noted in his speech. Although the focus was on Germany, Wallace knew the Nazi Devil lived in many places:

"Through the leaders of the Nazi revolution, Satan now is trying to lead the common man of the whole world back into slavery and darkness. For the stark truth is that the violence preached by the Nazis is the devil's own religion of darkness. So also is the doctrine that one race or one class is by heredity superior and that all other races or classes are supposed to be slaves . THE belief in one Satan-inspired Fuhrer, with his Quislings, his Lavals, and his Mussolinis -- his "gauleiters" in every nation in the world -- is the last and ultimate darkness. Is there any hell hotter than that of being a Quisling, unless it is that of being a Laval or a Mussolini?" (Quisling was a Norwegian Fascist executed in 1945 for treason.) [My Emphasis]

Wallace knew and he displayed his knowledge in a very famous op/ed written at the request of the NY Times and vetted by FDR, "The Dangers of American Fascism," published 9 April 1944. Besides that message, Wallace's most powerful message was spoken toward the conclusion of his speech which provides an excellent benchmark to measure just how far we've come and how much farther we need to go:

"Some [Henry Luce] have spoken of the 'American Century.' I say that the century on which we are entering -- The century which will come out of this war -- can be and must be the century of the common man. Perhaps it will be America's opportunity to suggest that Freedoms and duties by which the common man must live. Everywhere the common man must learn to build his own industries with his own hands is a practical fashion. Everywhere the common man must learn to increase his productivity so that he and his children can eventually pay to the world community all that they have received. No nation will have the God-given right to exploit other nations. Older nations will have the privilege to help younger nations get started on the path to industrialization, but there must be neither military nor economic imperialism . The methods of the nineteenth century will not work in the people's century which is now about to begin. India, China, and Latin America have a tremendous stake in the people's century. As their masses learn to read and write, and as they become productive mechanics, their standard of living will double and treble. Modern science, when devoted whole-heartedly to the general welfare, has in it potentialities of which we do not yet dream.

"And modern science must be released from German slavery. International cartels that serve American greed and the German will to power must go. Cartels in the peace to come must be subjected to international control for the common man, as well as being under adequate control by the respective home governments . In this way, we can prevent the Germans from again building a war machine while we sleep. With international monopoly pools under control, it will be possible for inventions to serve all the people instead of only a few.

"Yes, and when the time of peace comes, The citizen will again have a duty, The supreme duty of sacrificing the lesser interest for the greater interest of the general welfare. Those who write the peace must think of the whole world. There can be no privileged peoples. We ourselves in the United States are no more a master race than the Nazis. And we can not perpetuate economic warfare without planting the seeds of military warfare. We must use our power at the peace table to build an economic peace that is just, charitable and enduring .

"If we really believe that we are fighting for a people's peace, all the rest becomes easy." [All Emphasis Mine]

Reading between the lines, we can sense Wallace's apprehensions about what the USA will become; and as we've witnessed, he was quite correct in his suspicions. But the people were quickly duped and he didn't have any chance of besting Truman in 1948 being attacked in media by those who supported him and FDR during the Depression and war--very much like the attacks on Sanders during the last two election cycles. As Wallace feared, something very similar to Nazism took hold within the USA quickly after the war. Behind it then as now stood Private Finance and the Neoliberals went to work, their goal to privatize everything and ensure the Common Folk owned nothing but the debt that enslaved him/her. No other political-economic example was to be allowed to exist; their one greatest failure and the only reason we're now on the path to the better world we should have already attained if the sort of Christian Commonwealth vision Wallace had and many shared could have arisen instead of the latent fascism within the USA gaining control.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 13 2020 23:01 utc | 49

[Dec 12, 2020] America got the leadership it deserves

Dec 12, 2020 | www.rt.com

In these United States of the Insane, the inmates are running the asylum as American militarism and corporate power are now deemed benign, it is declared gender doesn't exist, and Kamala Harris is worthy of celebration while Tulsi Gabbard is deserving of denigration.

America always gets the leadership it deserves, and when Joe Biden falls, or more likely gets pushed, down a flight of stairs and Queen Kamala ascends to the throne, we will get what we deserve. And that certainly isn't a person of the quality and worth of Tulsi Gabbard, that's for damn sure.

[Dec 12, 2020] Machiavelli or Aldous Huxley

Dec 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

timson , Dec 12 2020 6:34 utc | 32

@davenitup #6

More Machiavelli. I'm not so sure about us maintaining control.

https://thecommonsproject.org/

More like Aldous Huxley. The smug patronizing tone of the bullet points and 'mission statements' is nauseating.

[Dec 12, 2020] Biden puts lipstick on another pig.

Dec 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Dec 11 2020 21:42 utc | 12

John Kerry is playing a con game with USA psuedo green sycophants to go to war with Russia to save the environment. And they love him.

The announcement drew praise from many professional climate activists and groups, perhaps assuming that Kerry was taking his lead from Bernie Sanders, who has for years been saying the same thing. Executive Director of the Sunrise Movement, Varshini Prakash said his statement was an "encouraging move," while 350.org's Bill McKibben, predicted Kerry would be an excellent climate czar. Yet, as media critic Adam Johnson argued, Kerry's proclamation should deeply concern progressive activists and will likely lead to expanding the already bloated military budget.

Kerry is a founding member of the Washington think tank, the American Security Project (ASP), whose board is a who's who of retired generals, admirals and senators. The ASP also hailed the appointment of their man, explaining, in a little-read report, exactly what treating the climate as a national security threat entails. And it is nothing like what Sanders advocates.

For the ASP, climate change constitutes an "accelerant of instability" and a "threat multiplier" that will "affect the operating environment," and notes that Kerry will have three priorities in his role as President Biden's right-hand man. What were those three priorities? Making sure people in the Global South could eat and have access to safe drinking water? Reparations? Disaster relief or response teams? Cutting back on fossil fuel use? Indeed not. For the ASP, the primary objectives were:

A huge rebuilding of the United States' military bases,
Countering China in the Pacific,
Preparing for a war with Russia in the newly-melted Arctic.

Biden puts lipstick on another pig.

[Dec 12, 2020] An interesting question about security clearances

Dec 12, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Back, way back, when a security clearance actually meant that you actually deserved and needed one, could Obama have gotten a clearance?

Posted by: TV | 10 December 2020 at 10:24 PM

Cop Humor:

https://lawenforcementrant.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/5305-rick-grenell-on-hannity-chinese-spy-scandal?p=5325#post5325

Listen, I have a lot of sensitive information from my years in gov't service. Stuff that's rated at TOP SECRET. Please don't tell the Chinese about my highly valuable info that I possess. However, if anyone should need my contact info for an interview from say the Chinese/American Committee to Fight Prejudice I'd be pleased to pass it along...

[Dec 12, 2020] The Steele Dossier was real. -The protests were peaceful. -The Hunter Biden story was Russian disinformation. And now? They tell you we shouldn't ask questions about the integrity of the 2020 election

Suddenly "election integrity" became a dirty word...
Dec 12, 2020 | twitter.com

Rep. Jim Jordan @Jim_Jordan 22h

They told you: -The Steele Dossier was real. -The protests were peaceful. -The Hunter Biden story was Russian disinformation. And now? They tell you we shouldn't ask questions about the integrity of the 2020 election.

22h

JustTheTweets - America First @JustTheTweets17 Dec 10
One anonymous whistle blower was OK to impeach the President of the United States but, 1000's of sworn affidavits of election fraud is not enough to investigate?

[Dec 11, 2020] After entanglement with Chinese spy, Eric Swalwell warned of 'influx of Russians' in US politics under Trump - Fox News

Dec 11, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

Rep. Eric Swalwell was one of several politicians involved in an expansive Chinese spying operation and even after he was briefed on the foreign interference he experienced first-hand, he kept his focus publicly on Russia during the Trump presidency.

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Axios reported that a Chinese national named Fang Fang or Christine Fang targeted up-and-coming local politicians, including Swalwell, D-Calif.

Current and former intelligence officials told the outlet that Fang used campaign fundraising, networking, rallies and romantic relationships with at least two Midwestern mayors to gain proximity to political power.

Fang reportedly took part in fundraising for Swalwell's 2014 reelection campaign although she did not make donations nor was there evidence of illegal contributions.

FBI STEPPED IN AFTER SUSPECTED CHINESE SPY GOT CLOSE TO SWALWELL, OTHER POLITICIANS, REPORT FINDS

According to Axios, investigators became so alarmed by Fang's behavior and activities that they alerted Swalwell in 2015 to their concerns, and gave him a "defensive briefing." Swalwell then cut off all ties with Fang and has not been accused of any wrongdoing, according to an official who spoke to the outlet.

Fang went on to leave the country in mid-2015.

"Rep. Swalwell, long ago, provided information about this person -- whom he met more than eight years ago, and whom he hasn't seen in nearly six years -- to the FBI," Swalwell's office told Axios in a statement. "To protect information that might be classified, he will not participate in your story."

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Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., brings up the separation of families at the border during a joint hearing of the House Committee on the Judiciary and House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform examining the Inspector General's report of the FBI's Clinton email probe, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, June 19, 2018 in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

The former 2020 presidential candidate had become best known in recent years for his outspokenness of the Russia investigation. He repeatedly insisted that Russians colluded with the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, something Special Counsel Robert Mueller ultimately put to bed.

However, during a 2018 interview with The Hill, long after he had received a "defensive briefing" on the suspected Chinese spy that infiltrated his office, Swalwell sounded the alarm about the Russians' involvement in American politics after suspected Russian spy Maria Butina pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government after her attempts to infiltrate the NRA and GOP circles.

BIDEN CABINET PICK HYPED DOSSIER, PROMOTED CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT RUSSIAN HACKERS CHANGING VOTES

"The Maria Butina plea today, you know, represents that over the past two years, our country has seen just an influx of Russians into our political bloodstream and that's something that did not exist until Donald Trump came on the scene," Swalwell said at the time. "I mean, when you look at the 16 Trump family members, campaign officials, and administration folks who had contacts with Russians throughout the campaign."

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He continued, "If you look at the Butina plea deal, you see an eagerness and a willingness to work with a traditional American adversary and I think that's dangerous for our national security. It represents poor judgment and, as Bob Mueller is showing, it also is a crime. And so it's all the more reason that a new Congress, you know, can put a balance of power on these abuses that we continue to see from the Trump administration."

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Swalwell isn't the only Democratic lawmaker who was swept up by this newly-surfaced alleged Chinese espionage. Fang also volunteered for the 2014 House bid of Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., and a 2013 fundraiser for Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii. Khanna's office said the congressman saw Fang at several gatherings but had no further contact, while Gabbard's office told the outlet she "has no recollection of ever meeting or talking with [Fang], nor any recollection of her playing a major role at the fundraiser."

Fox News' Adam Shaw contributed to this report.

[Dec 11, 2020] There is no 'Russian secret war' on the US, but WaPo fantasy risks Biden starting a very real one by Nebojsa Malic

Notable quotes:
"... Last but not least, Exhibit D is the assertion that the "Democratic National Committee's computers were raided by Russian military intelligence to disrupt the 2016 election." That is another assertion, based on allegations listed in indictments by special counsel Robert Mueller. As a federal judge helpfully reminded Mueller in another 'Russiagate' case, which the government later dropped, allegations made in indictments aren't statements of fact. ..."
"... If the phrase "consistent with" jumps out at you here, that's no accident. Notice there is no actual evidence offered for any of these claims, only an insinuation that these alleged attacks would be "consistent" with what the US spies, anonymous sources and mainstream media think might be Russian objectives. That's exactly the claim made by the infamous January 2017 "intelligence community assessment," which the media falsely attributed to "17 intelligence agencies" instead of a hand-picked team involved in spying on the Trump campaign at the time. ..."
"... Now, the Post editors may be privileged people, living comfortably off of Jeff Bezos's Amazon fortune even as their country collapses under pandemic lockdowns. However, it would be a mistake to write off this editorial as a mere product of their vivid and feverish imaginations. After four years of Russiagate hysteria that even the Trump administration has internalized, this kind of rhetoric is actually dangerous . ..."
Dec 11, 2020 | www.rt.com

Airplanes paint the sky in the colors of the Russian flag during a Kremlin flyover, June 24, 2020 © Nina Zotina via REUTERS 3 Follow RT on In a normal world, the Washington Post claiming the existence of a Russian 'secret war' against the US based on far-fetched conjecture and debunked conspiracy theories would be a laughing matter. We don't live in such a world.

Democrat Joe Biden, anointed by the US mainstream media and Silicon Valley as the next president, "must call out Putin's secret war against the United States" when he assumes office, the Post's editorial board argued this week.

But this "secret war" exists only in their feverish imagination. Each and every one of the things they list as examples of it consists of assertions based on insinuation at best, or has otherwise been debunked as outright fake news.

Exhibit A is the "mysterious attacks" that supposedly "targeted" US diplomats and spies in Cuba, China, Australia and Taiwan. This 'Havana Syndrome' was blamed on Russia last week in a coordinated media campaign, but the "scientific" paper it was based on carefully avoids actual attribution, saying only that the vague symptoms were "consistent" with a posited microwave weapon.

This is an evolution of the original story, which claimed that Russia had used "sonic weapons," not microwave ones. Even the New York Times later admitted that the headaches, sleep deprivation and other problems were more likely caused by the loud chirping of Cuban crickets.

Who caused 'Havana syndrome'? With latest research naming no culprit, MSM rushes to declare Russia 'microwave' exposure mastermind

Exhibit B is another doozy, the infamous "Russian bounties" story. The New York Times claimed in June that some money captured from local mobsters in Afghanistan was somehow proof that Russia was paying the Taliban to kill US soldiers – again, not on the basis of actual evidence, but on conjecture that this was "consistent" with what the CIA and US military said were Russian objectives.

Thing is, neither the US intelligence community nor the Pentagon were ever able to confirm the story, having investigated it for months. It just so happened that it was brought up just as the DC establishment sought to torpedo President Donald Trump's plan to pull out of Afghanistan and end the 20-year war that has long since forgotten its purpose.

Exhibit C is the "looting of valuable hacking tools" from the cybersecurity firm FireEye, announced earlier this week. FireEye itself never named the culprit, with its CEO Kevin Mandia only saying it was "consistent with a nation-state cyber-espionage effort."

That didn't stop the Post from claiming that "spies with Russia's foreign intelligence service" are "believed" to have hacked FireEye, citing "people familiar with the matter." Well there you go, anonymous and unverifiable sources asserted it, therefore it must be true!

Last but not least, Exhibit D is the assertion that the "Democratic National Committee's computers were raided by Russian military intelligence to disrupt the 2016 election." That is another assertion, based on allegations listed in indictments by special counsel Robert Mueller. As a federal judge helpfully reminded Mueller in another 'Russiagate' case, which the government later dropped, allegations made in indictments aren't statements of fact.Another nail in Russiagate coffin? Federal judge destroys key Mueller report claim

If the phrase "consistent with" jumps out at you here, that's no accident. Notice there is no actual evidence offered for any of these claims, only an insinuation that these alleged attacks would be "consistent" with what the US spies, anonymous sources and mainstream media think might be Russian objectives. That's exactly the claim made by the infamous January 2017 "intelligence community assessment," which the media falsely attributed to "17 intelligence agencies" instead of a hand-picked team involved in spying on the Trump campaign at the time.

Keep in mind that these are the same spies and media that never saw the demise of the Soviet Union coming, and have been predicting Russia's impending collapse any day now – for the past 20 years. So much for their actual knowledge of Russian goals or thinking.

Speaking of 'Russiagate,' the Post has been on the leading edge of that conspiracy theory from the start. It won Pulitzers for pushing it on the American public. It also played a key role in smearing Trump's first national security adviser, Gen. Michael Flynn, so he would be fired – and later cheered his railroading by Mueller. At least they're consistent , so to speak.

Now, the Post editors may be privileged people, living comfortably off of Jeff Bezos's Amazon fortune even as their country collapses under pandemic lockdowns. However, it would be a mistake to write off this editorial as a mere product of their vivid and feverish imaginations. After four years of Russiagate hysteria that even the Trump administration has internalized, this kind of rhetoric is actually dangerous .

That's because the Post is literally in bed with what Trump called the Washington "swamp," the entrenched US political establishment. What they print is what that establishment thinks and wants Americans to believe. With Joe Biden in the White House, the objectives of that establishment and the official US government would be, to use their own phrase, consistent .

Which is why the Post's "secret war" fantasy is, shall we say, highly likely to become an actual shooting war with Moscow. As the US and Russia have enough nuclear weapons between themselves to destroy the world several times over, that can't possibly be good for Amazon's bottom line. Someone ought to tell Bezos.

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[Dec 11, 2020] Is The Media Burying The Russiagater Swalwell Story

Dec 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Jonathan Turley,

We often discuss media coverage and accuracy on developing legal and political controversies. Much of this discussion recently has focused on the bias shown by the media in the last four years. I have worked for the media as a legal analyst and columnist for years, but I have never before seen this raw and open bias in major media. At the same time, academics are rejecting the very concept of objectivity in journalism in favor of open advocacy.

This morning, Fox News called out all of the networks for zero coverage of the bombshell story from Axios that Rep. Eric Swalwell may have had a close relationship with a suspected Chinese spy who fled to China a few years ago. Many of us were struck by the lack of coverage, particularly given the position of Swalwell on the House Intelligence Committee and his former bid for the presidency. It was particularly striking when the media is now reluctantly covering the Hunter Biden story after a long blackout before the election. Yet, the most stark comparison is with the exhaustive coverage given the highly analogous story involving an alleged spy, Maria Butina, who had an affair with a high-ranking figure in the National Rifle Association.

Swalwell is alleged to have had a close relationship with Chinese national, Fang Fang or Christine Fang, who not only raised money for him but placed at least one intern in Swalwell's congressional office, according to Axios . Bizarrely, Swalwell has refused to confirm or deny that he had an intimate relationship with his office claiming that such an answer could compromise classified information. Even that ridiculous comment did not prompt ABC, NBC, or CBS to cover the story. Obviously, Fang and the Chinese already know if she had a sexual relationship with Swalwell. The only people in the dark are the voters.

Swalwell himself explained why this is news.

The congressman was one of the most vocal voices calling out a June 2016 meeting that President Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., with Natalia Veselnitskaya, who was accused of being an asset for the Russian government.

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Swalwell declared on MSNBC in January 2019:

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" Stated plainly, the President's son met with a Russian spy. We now have the best evidence of that in our minority report the Democrats put out that Ms. Veselnitskaya was going all over the world and bumping into Dana Rohrabacher, which is a sign of a spy, someone who tries to create a coincidence encounter, and now we know that she was working at the behest of the Russian government. "

Not even the utter hypocrisy of Swalwell's position or the lunacy of his classification claim was enough to generate minimal coverage. There is also no interest in Swalwell remaining on the intelligence committee given his ill-considered relationship.

Swalwell says that he cooperated with the FBI and cut off ties with Fang, who fled to China years ago. There is no indication that he compromised classified information, but such assets are used to often influence powerful leaders or acquire useful background information on other leaders.

MSNBC and other news outlets could not get enough of that story about Trump Jr. but has an effective blackout on the same allegation of Swalwell not just "bumping" into a spy but carrying on a long relationship and even allowing her to raise money for him and help put an intern in his congressional office.

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Yet, the greatest contrast is with the NRA story which was endlessly covered. Even when NRA moved to address the relationship between Butina and 57-year-old Republican activist named Paul Erickson. Hundreds of stories ran on every deal and media explored whether a Russian activist influenced powerful figures or shared information .

The FBI Director just gave a public speech on the extensive and growing espionage efforts of China. Yet, the success of planting an agent with Swalwell and a couple of other politicians has been given virtual Hunter Biden treatment. Where a host of legal expert called for charges for treason and other crimes against Trump Jr., there is nothing but crickets when a liberal Democrats members is accused of far more extensive contacts with a Chinese spy. Why?



PrintCash 6 hours ago (Edited)

Does a bear poop in the woods?

Its the sole purpose and desire of the ultra partisan types in the media to control the narrative, control the messaging, control your life. It's what they LIVE for.

Hikikomori 6 hours ago

Swalwell was accusing Trump of colluding with Putin while at the same time Swalwell was screwing a ChiCom spy - you couldn'tmake this up.

Floki_Ragnarsson 6 hours ago

Right out of a Tom Clancy novel.

Lord Raglan 5 hours ago remove link

Swalwell was boinking the Chi-Com Honey Pot in 2015 and maybe earlier, before Trump even announced his run and yet it is all Trump's fault.

There is no lie that is too malignantly preposterous for people on the Left.

Flankspeed60 4 hours ago

The Chinese are not actually our enemy here. When you go to Yellowstone, you're warned not to feed the bears. Same for dragons. Hang raw meat on a clothesline, and expect all the downwind carnivores and blowflies to show up. In our case, corrupt politicians made themselves readily accessible to any and every gomer with large bundles of cash. Even real-life whores are more discerning in their choice of johns than the low-life bacterium we elected to congress-it is THEY AND THEY ALONE who are to blame for selling this country out. The Chinese have nothing but contempt for these dregs, and no one should blame them for paying relative pennies for solid gold bars in return. In fact, our government does exactly the same to countless other countries, so the stampeding hypocrisy of our government in crying 'foul' simply reeks. The Chicoms would most likely shoot, and have shot their own corrupt sell-outs for far less than the crimes committed by our treasonous scumbags. And, until we adopt similar measures against our worthless SOB's, our Swamp will simply continue to get deeper and slimier............

precarryus 4 hours ago

Yet Swill-well says Adam Schiff and Pelosi were aware of his activities, implying ... ...(Surprised?

American2 5 hours ago remove link

Perhaps Peter Strozk can be the defense's rock-solid moral character witness at Eric Swalwell's federal trial.

surf@jm 5 hours ago

The Chinese own Hollywood and the media.....

The Chinese were the main force for the Russia collusion horsehockey through their political whores in congress....

Schroedingers Cat 5 hours ago

Hillary, Brennan, Obama, Chris Hayes, Maddow, Comey, Zucker and many other swamp state freaks are responsible for Russiagate.

The CHinese CCP are definitely up to no good but let's not excuse traitors and chalk it up to Chinese spies. Swalwell is 100% responsible for his own behavior. They ALL ARE. Chinese spies can't corrupt real American Patriots.

Son of Captain Nemo 5 hours ago

Last I checked so was Joe and Hunter Biden along with China?...

And Hunter is doing great things with his money buying under age prostitutes in Ukraine and China making vids of it while sucking on a crack pipe... While the young ladies "suck" something else "off"!!!

Willie the Pimp 6 hours ago remove link

The media? No such thing. CIA propaganda.

John Couger 3 hours ago

This slimy piece of excrement attacked our president for 4 years over the Russia hoax all while being compromised by the communist Chinese

BinAnunnaki 4 hours ago

The Presstitute media is an extension of the Democratic Party.

Cobra Commander 4 hours ago remove link

Precisely. Why pay money to be misinformed? Biden up by 17 in Wisconsin, Hunter laptop media blackout, panning away from ANY mention of voter and election fraud.

OCnStiggs 6 hours ago

"Swallowell" is a lying, prevaricating, stupid POS.

The very first thing they do to you when you get a high security clearance is brief you on people and techniques used to compromise you. Period. Dot. This ****** either skipped the brief or ignored it. Simply associating with people who might be a compromise threat is unlawful. Ignorance is no excuse.

Just sayin'.

Cobra Commander 4 hours ago

Penalties for Inaccurate or False Statements (security clearance)

United States Criminal Code (title 18, section 1001) provides that knowingly falsifying or concealing a material fact is a felony which may result in fines of up to $10,000, and/or 5 years imprisonment, or both.

If you have a security clearance, you agree to report all foreign contacts and relationships. When you submit your clearance request, you attest that all is true, correct, and complete to the best of your knowledge.

Intentionally submitting false information on a clearance request or renewal is subject to criminal prosecution.

Cobra!

[Dec 11, 2020] FBI Has Files From Seth Rich's Laptop Computer

Dec 11, 2020 | www.theepochtimes.com
Print The Federal Bureau of Investigation ( FBI ) has files from the laptop computer belonging to Seth Rich, the Democratic National Committee employee who was killed, according to a new email.

The bureau also has tens of thousands of documents mentioning Rich.

The FBI "has completed the initial search identifying approximately 50 cross-reference serials, with attachments totaling over 20,000 pages, in which Seth Rich is mentioned," Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrea Parker wrote in the message to attorney Ty Clevenger, who is representing a plaintiff Huddleston v. Federal Bureau of Investigation, a case dealing with a Freedom of Information Act request to the bureau.

"FBI has also located leads that indicate additional potential records that require further searching," Parker added.

The Epoch Times confirmed the email is legitimate.

Parker, who is representing the FBI in the case, didn't respond to an email or return a voicemail.

The bureau also confirmed it has files from Rich's laptop.

"FBI is also currently working on getting the files from Seth Rich's personal laptop into a format to be reviewed," Parker said.

The disclosure came as part of a case brought in federal court by Texas resident Brian Huddleston, who filed a Freedom of Information Act request in April asking the FBI to produce all data, documents, records, or communications that reference Seth Rich or his brother, Aaron Rich.

The FBI told the plaintiff in June that it would take 8 to 10 months to provide a final response to the request, prompting the filing of the case in the U.S District Court for the Eastern District of Texas.

Rich was working for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) when he was killed in Washington in 2016. His murder remains unsolved.

The new email bolsters a key charge in Huddleston's filing: that David Hardy, the FBI's records chief, was wrong when he said in two affidavits that the FBI searched for records pertaining to Rich but could not find any.

Rich is pictured on a poster created by police officials to urge people with information about his murder to come forward. (Metropolitan Police Department)

The first sign that the testimony was erroneous came earlier this year when the nonprofit watchdog Judicial Watch received emails exchanged by FBI agent Peter Strzok and Department of Justice lawyer Lisa Page. The production included several emails mentioning Rich.

Another sign came in March, when former Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Sines was deposed in a separate case, Ed Butowsky v. David Folkenflik et. al.

Sines testified that the FBI conducted an investigation into possible hacking attempts on Seth Rich's electronic accounts following his murder. She said FBI agents examined Rich's laptop as part of the probe and that a search should uncover emails between her and FBI personnel. She also said she met with a prosecutor and an FBI agent assigned to special counsel Robert Mueller's team.

The FBI declined to comment, citing a policy of not commenting on pending litigation.

The judge overseeing the Huddleston case in October ordered the defense to produce documents and an index.

In the new email, the government lawyer said the FBI has made "significant progress" in searching for documents mentioning Rich, but still has much work left, including processing the approximately 50 cross-references, undertaking some level of review of the laptop, and completing all remaining services.

The efforts are hampered by the FBI's Freedom of Information Act office being at 50 percent of its normal workforce due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The government is proposing an amended schedule that would give it three more months to produce the records.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange arrives at court in London on May 1, 2019. (Daniel Leal-Olivas/AFP via Getty Images)

Clevenger, Huddleston's lawyer, told The Epoch Times via email that his client is hoping to find out why the FBI was involved in the case, and why it originally denied involvement.

"We suspect the FBI may be right that the Metropolitan Police Dept. in D.C. was responsible for investigating Seth's murder, so that leaves a couple of likely explanations for the FBI's role: it was investigating a counterintelligence matter or a computer crime. Either scenario would be consistent with Seth transmitting DNC emails to Wikileaks ," he added, referencing a theory put forth by Fox News in 2017 in a report that was later retracted.

Fox was sued over the report. It settled with Rich's family last month.

A federal judge overseeing the case had earlier this year requested testimony from Wikileaks' founder Julian Assange.

Rich was killed less than two weeks before WikiLeaks "released a collection of thousands of internal emails and documents taken from the DNC servers," according to a court filing. One month after Rich's murder, Assange referenced the DNC staffer in an interview with a Dutch television reporter when discussing the dangers faced by WikiLeaks sources. On Aug. 9, 2016, WikiLeaks offered $20,000 for information about Rich's murder. The website increased the reward to $130,000 in January 2017.

The Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) several weeks after Rich was shot dead offered a reward for information. A spokeswoman told The Epoch Times via email that the case "remains under active investigation."

The spokeswoman declined to answer whether the FBI assisted police with its probe. "MPD remains the lead investigative agency over this homicide," she said.

Clevenger said he thinks the timing of the email from Parker, the assistant U.S. attorney, is significant.

"Some of my colleagues suspect the Trump Administration has pushed the release, but I doubt that," he wrote. "With the purported election of Joe Biden, the FBI brass probably think they are in the clear, and nothing will ever happen to them, so they no longer have any reason to hide what they did."

Ivan Pentchoukov contributed to this report.


[Dec 11, 2020] Russiagater Swalwell troubles

Dec 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Voice_of_Doom 4 hours ago

You'd think a democrat with a heterosexual lover would be big news to the left!

oromae 4 hours ago

I am shocked. Shocked.

gcjohns1971 4 hours ago

Where a host of legal expert called for charges for treason and other crimes against Trump Jr., there is nothing but crickets when a liberal Democrats members is accused of far more extensive contacts with a Chinese spy. Why?

Because their allegiance, despite their claims and oaths is not to their countrymen, to facts, or to human rights.

Isn't it obvious?

They work for others who intend us harm.

VWAndy 3 hours ago

its just like election rigging kiddies. Nobody is really gonna turn over that rock because everyone knows whats under it. Both parties are neck deep in it.

[Dec 10, 2020] Chidems and Russiagate: The pot calling the kettle black

So some rabid Russiagaters slept with with women who are suspected to be Chine agents of influence; Others like Biden took money from china while instigating and promoting RussiaGate . So nice
Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Arthur Schwartz @ArthurSchwartz · Dec 8 If @RepSwalwell hadn't been banging the Chinese communist spy, he would be doing wall to wall MSNBC hits claiming that this was a Russian disinformation campaign. Instead, all he can say is "it's classified." No one is buying it, Eric. Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec · Dec 8 I'm told the unreleased portion of the Swalwell report is far, far worse for the Congressman and he is actively fighting to obstruct its release to the American people Nick Short @PoliticalShort · 14h China owns Hollywood, the media, our supply chains, etc. It's idiotic to believe they wouldn't also own a good portion of those in Congress. The question is, how big of a portion? Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr · 16h How'd that one work out Fartwell? Quote Tweet Eric Swalwell @ericswalwell · Jan 8, 2019 "Stated plainly, the President's son met with a Russian spy." On @DeadlineWH about #NataliaVeselnitskaya 8.2K 12.1K 46.6K

As Donald Trump Jr noted so poignantly on Twitter:

Does anyone else notice that the Chinese Spies seem to always attach themselves to Democrats while simultaneously always attacking Republicans? That should tell us all we need to know about who's fighting for who. Democrats are the party of China!

[Dec 10, 2020] The best president money can buy

Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Biden Campaign Becomes First In History To Raise $1 Billion From Donors - Zero Hedge

Authored by Karl Evers-Hillstrom via OpenSecrets.org,

President-elect Joe Biden 's campaign is the first in history to raise $1 billion from donors , adding yet another broken record to the 2020 cycle that set a new benchmark for political fundraising.

Biden wielded a massive financial advantage over President Donald Trump during the final months of the 2020 campaign. Biden heavily outspent Trump on the airwaves in key swing states he ultimately won by narrow margins. He also had superior backing from big-money super PACs and "dark money" groups .

[Dec 10, 2020] 2060 Verified Dead Absentee Voters in Wayne County Michigan, how many more are there

Dec 10, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Approximately 566,958 people voted absentee in Wayne County, where Detroit is located, in the 2020 general election. 2060 appear to have been dead.

... if accurate, that there may have been a systemic campaign underway to cast ballots even among people who were deceased.

[Dec 10, 2020] Fulton County officials illegally accepted more than $6 million in private grants that imposed conditions on the conduct of elections without authority from the state legislature

Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Yog Soggoth 38 minutes ago

"Fulton County officials illegally accepted more than $6 million in private grants that imposed conditions on the conduct of elections without authority from the state legislature." Follow the private grants to the election interference.

snowshooze 28 minutes ago

And so I read thay purchased ballot counters?

Waitaminute... you can't bring your own gear into an election...

Rich Stoehner 1 hour ago

Kamika Harris will smooth it out.

[Dec 10, 2020] That was really quick: before November 3 we have a full blown Russian collision and now magically we have such a fair election that even question of investigating "irregularities" is preposterous

Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Slaytheist 1 hour ago

Russian collusion disappeared quicker than BLM after the election.

ominous 1 hour ago

one is returning soon

High Vigilante 16 minutes ago

Demsheviks: "There was never Russia collusion, and we have always been in peace with Eastasia"

LevelHeadedMan 26 minutes ago

Russia narrative was a scapegoat for the real cause. The Democrats lost the working class. They became the party of the coastal suburbanite liberal middle class. And now they are the party of fraud. lay_arrow

Francis Marximus 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

I guess all the countries that have a higher GDP then Russia the US has in their pockets. Hence...Russia has to be the fall guy.

The media and Democrats need simple minded people, people who are easily fooled and people with no conscience to exist

ominous 1 hour ago

why would Russia interfere?

we're doing a bang-up job ******* things up on our own.

divide_by_zero 1 hour ago

Putin should announce his candidate has won, just to **** either as Soros will run our gov otherwise

NotGonnaTakeItAnymore 1 hour ago

Let's all recall that genius of the senate from CT, Chris Murphy, who took every opportunity to stand before anyone who would listen and had a camera, as repeatedly stating that Russia was involved with Trump and with Hunter's laptop.

And now he's remarkably quiet.

Hey Chris, can you show me the Russians now??? You are so going to lose you next election. We are sick of your games.

Baba Yaga 1 34 minutes ago

The American election is a farce in itself. Puppeteers from the Deep State have pushed Biden's candidacy by all means. The American people are just extras in these elections, nothing depends on them. This is the American way of democracy.

with extra foam 32 minutes ago remove link

That moment of clarity when you realize that modern America is no different than Soviet Russia.

Bobby Farrell Can Dance 23 minutes ago (Edited)

With much worse propaganda and a bigger budget. Meaning the fall will be harder.

monty42 14 minutes ago

Worse in some ways. The devil that poses as an angel of light is actually more dangerous.

Ms No 1 hour ago (Edited)

I have to pat the CIA on the back. This has dual purpose.

Both China and Maduro are accused of meddling in this election. They got Russia last time. Amidst it all, thinking people are demoralized by the assholes who actually believe any of that absurdity. It's a hideous and cruel weapon.

Well played.

youshallnotkill 1 hour ago

According to Rudy is was Chavez, don't cha know. Guy apparently just faked his death ... /s

ouluoulu 24 minutes ago remove link

I am watching the death throes of the news business, newspapers, television and magazines. Blogs, newsletters and individuals releasing their own videos will finally kill it off.

Investigative reporting is nonexistent, replaced by fake news that answers to the "Big Club" that George Carlin referred to when he said "It's a big club and you ain't in it, you and I are not in it."

Bobby Farrell Can Dance 18 minutes ago

Western MSM is all paid shilling, fully compromised by 5 Eyes + Mossad intel agency staffers. The last place I would want to learn about the way the world works, but the first place I would look to see their projections.

[Dec 10, 2020] US Election -Success-... And Hey Presto -Russian Interference- Disappears -

Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

US Election "Success"... And Hey Presto "Russian Interference" Disappears by Tyler Durden Sun, 12/06/2020 - 00:00 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

The United States' election victory of Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden has yet to be officially confirmed. That requires the 500-plus Electoral College comprising the 50 federal states to cast the final vote when the constitutional body meets on December 14. Biden holds a commanding lead of over 300 delegates in the Electoral College, more than 70 above Donald Trump's quota and decisively more than the 270 threshold required for election to the White House.

Nonetheless, already one thing is indisputably clear. Biden's nominal victory from the popular vote tallies is glaring proof that Russia did not interfere in the American presidential ballot. Not in 2020. And not, we may discern, in 2016, nor in any other election. Yet the silence in US media over this obvious conclusion is deafening.

Four years of frenetic and unsubstantiated allegations of "Russian interference" have disappeared overnight, it seems. Poof! Gone! As if by a magic conjuring trick. Now you see it, now you don't, so to speak.

The New York Times has declared the recent presidential contest a "great election.. a resounding success free of fraud" . The Department of Homeland Security pronounced the election to be the "most secure in American history." Other US media outlets have jettisoned supposed political neutrality and can barely contain their elation at Biden's electoral victory.

But hold on a moment.

In the months and weeks leading up to the November election, there was a fever pitch in US media among politicians, national security chiefs, pundits and anonymous intelligence sources that Russia was allegedly stepping up "interference efforts" to get Trump re-elected.

Those evidence-free claims were predicated on the equally absurd assertion that Trump was a Manchurian candidate for the Kremlin. That "Russiagate" fable was first spun in 2016 and for the past four years elaborated into a tangled web to "explain" how a maverick former reality TV star had been elected to the White House.

Suddenly, however, the Democrats and supportive US media are now asserting that the voting process was impeccable and unblemished by any malfeasance. Of course they would say that in order to bolster legitimacy of Biden's win against the Republican White House incumbent Donald Trump. But the thundering takeaway which the US political class and media are bizarrely ignoring is that Russia did not interfere not in the 2020 race nor in any other election. Russia has always categorically said it is not meddling in US politics and its electoral process. Turns out that Russia is de facto vindicated in its protestations against American slander.

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The "Russiagate" nonsense was hatched by Democrats, their supportive media and intelligence agencies because they could not come to terms with the reality of why Trump beat the then establishment-ordained candidate Hillary Clinton in 2016. Could it have been because Clinton and the Democrat party was repudiated by popular sentiment due to perceived corruption and overseas wars? No, another "explanation" had to be found. And the US political establishment came up with the "Russian interference" narrative.

No matter that the Mueller investigation found after 22 months of probing and hundreds of millions of taxpayer-dollars spent that there was no evidence of "Russia collusion" with the Trump campaign. Nevertheless, Mueller and the Democrats, their media and intelligence backers, persisted in the spurious notion that Russia meddled in the 2016 election and, allegedly, was continuing to meddle, purportedly with even more sophisticated, nefarious techniques.

How can US politicians, intelligence officials and media credibly claim that Russia interfered in 2016 and in mid-term congressional elections in 2018, but now in 2020 it evidently did not? The most logical explanation is simply that Russia never did.

Four years of hysterical American accusations against Russia have transpired to just that: bogus hysteria . US politicians, media and so-called intelligence gurus should be held to account for fabricating what is perhaps the biggest hoax ever played on the American public.

Though, one can be sure that they won't be held accountable in a formal way. Venal power doesn't work like that. And the US political system has built-in layers of self-protection for the political class never to be prosecuted. But in an informal no less real way, the system is being held to account by the wider public who are increasingly holding it in contempt and distrust. The political class and their plaything media are losing the moral authority to govern. This goes beyond mere Trump Derangement Syndrome. The systematic lying and deception over alleged Russian interference perpetrated on such a grand scale has fatally damaged the credibility of American institutions. Not just in the US, but around the world too.

Equally lamentable is the corrosive, damaging effect that the bogus hysteria has had on bilateral US-Russia relations and international tensions. Relations are at a dangerous all time low comparable to the depth of the Cold War. This has in turn sabotaged diplomatic efforts to strengthen arms controls and global security. The anti-Russia hysteria has led to the US abandonment of key nuclear weapons treaties, the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty and soon the New START.

The Russophobia that has been whipped up as a political weapon against Trump over the past four years is not something that can be easily put aside. It has engendered deep-seated hostility against Russia. During the presidential debates, Joe Biden vowed that the would take a tough stand against Russia for "interfering" in US politics. The incoming administration is being mentally held hostage by its own Russophobia which was cultivated on entirely false grounds.

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It is disturbing how the US nation has been dragged into an obsession about alleged Russian malign activities, an obsession which turns out to be a mirage. Not for the first time either. Recall the Cold War Red Scares and McCarthyite witch-hunts which poisoned American society.

The implications are daunting. How can bilateral relations with Russia be restored? How can an intelligent dialogue be conducted with a nation whose leaders are so self-deluded and irrational?

Moreover, this is a nation whose leaders presume to have the prerogative to use overwhelming military force whenever they deem so. It is not unlike the driver of a juggernaut vehicle on a precipice who is hurtling along while out of his brain on misconceptions.

[Dec 10, 2020] Covid epidemic, PCR test abuse, and other calamities

The fact that Cr (number of amplification cycles) was not reported, creates some bad thoughts. Especially about Fauci and his gang ;-) Can Fauci be sued for criminal negligence?
Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

wonderman 3 hours ago remove link

I lost my dad due to a drunk driver. Therefore, we should ban cars and alcohol. Maybe, we should also ban bottles because the drunk driver drank out of a bottle. Oh, and maybe we should ban humans too because ... You see the logic!

LEEPERMAX 3 hours ago

It's worth repeating

A POSITIVE PCR TEST IS NOT A "CASE"

Lansman 2 hours ago

They will continue to manipulate the test results to ensure the desired level of fear and panic. It is the only way to get the public to accept their absurd lockdowns and mask requirements.

Patrick Bateman Jr. 2 hours ago

99.9992% of the US population has survived.

ThePub'Lick_Hare 2 hours ago

Time for every state to follow Florida by class action suit. This farce has gone on too long. Kudos to Florida for taking the initiative. Now at last people can ask relevant questions and insist on proper protocol. The Portuguese High Court saw false COVID testing for what it is, the spark and flame of a reign of terror. Time to douse the flames and the douche-bags inflaming the scam-demic.

Lucky Guesst 3 hours ago

The test results weren't supposed to change until after they got Trump out and after the vaccine release so the sheep could bow to the Democrats for "saving" them. The PCR cycle threshold will change to 5 after our 100 days of penance.

Ajax_USB_Port_Repair_Service_ 2 hours ago (Edited)

" Whoever wins the presidency " Will get the credit.

Agree, covid hysteria is being controlled by some group more powerful than our president.

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rlouis 12 hours ago

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johngaltfla 23 hours ago

Uh, the Fake News US Media is getting slaughtered. Layoffs in digital, broadcast radio and television, print across the board. After the inauguration it will accelerate as more advertising contracts are not renewed or sold at substantially lower rates.

ABC News and Disney are just the latest big ones to report this past week:

And the Fake News Media Layoff Slaughter Accelerates

TaxEstate 22 hours ago

Facebook is blocking, if you link directly to the article at Strategic Culture.

Their brazen censorship has gone WAY over the top. Zuckerberg can go fornicate himself in whatever non-binary way of his choosing...

This crap is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY outta control.

starcraft22 19 hours ago (Edited)

Zero Hedge is a site where you can read journalism. CNN are whiny leftists promoting baseless conspiracy theories.

Dash8 17 hours ago

CNN is far worse than that....their building needs to be a smouldering heap....

[Dec 10, 2020] Arizona Investigation of 100-Ballot Sample Finds 3% of the Ballots Were

Dec 10, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Wolfgang Faust 5 hours ago ,

No way in hell Sniffy won Arizona.
We had a 92 mile long Trump caravan.

Sniffy and "The Laughing Cow" had an event here. Know how many people showed up?

ZERO!

[Dec 10, 2020] FBI declares HACKERS targeting think tanks 'shaping US policy' same NGOs that fearmonger about foreign hacking

National security parasites is a pretty powerful clique in Washington, DC
Dec 10, 2020 | www.rt.com

A body owing its existence to those same think tanks' scare stories about foreign hackers.

[Dec 10, 2020] LifeNews.com on Twitter- -New Trafalgar poll of Georgia voters on whether the presidential election there was compromised

Dec 10, 2020 | twitter.com



LifeNews.com @LifeNewsHQ
LifeNews.com @LifeNewsHQ New Trafalgar poll of Georgia voters on whether the presidential election there was compromised because of voter fraud: All voters: 53.2% yes, 37.9% no, 8.9% unsure. GOP voters: 74.6% yes, 15.9% no, 9.5% unsure.
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@LifeNewsHQ Thats bcs it was. Lets go to the video tape...
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@action_citizen Dec 5
@action_citizen Were all the dead people suitably represented in this poll.

[Dec 10, 2020] While she herself smoked marijuana Kamala Harris sent almost 2000 people to jail for doing the same

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Activated [email protected] 5 hours ago ,

..."A total of 1,974 people were sent to state prisons for marijuana-related offenses during Harris's 2011-2016 tenure as the Golden State's lead prosecutor, the Washington Free Beacon reported." MOSTLY blacks.

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While she was smoking.

[Dec 10, 2020] All hail to Saint Biden.

Dec 10, 2020 | www.rt.com

Peter Mokry 11 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 12:11 PM

All hail to Saint Biden. With even the pope being among the first to praise him. After all, tens of thousands of people rose from the dead to vote for him; truly a miracle! Now being such a devout "catholic" if only he could figure out how to pronounce "psalms" correctly, or at least figure out what a psalm actually is.
Ohhho 4 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 07:14 PM
Usually the elections do not matter at all since both candidates are properly vetted and virtually irrelevant. Last time they've allowed it to slip and had to correct it now. So it was kind of forceful. But please do not assume it was out of desperation or weakness. If it shows anything it would be the deep disrespect for the American cattle, nothing else.

[Dec 10, 2020] Sir. may I suggest you to update your world news?

Dec 10, 2020 | www.rt.com

https://www.rt.com/usa/508921-biden-win-implausible-trump/

trmput 9 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 03:05 PM

If it was rigged, it was rigged for a reason. To get the worst president of USA out of office. The GOP in 2024 will have to come up with someone better than Trump. Getting rid of Trump was getting rid of another dictator. Trump was taking the USA down a path of destruction and the people voted him out, plain and simple. His supporters well they are easy picking for the con of all cons Trump. The world also wanted him gone with the exception of the USSR.
Brod1aga trmput 2 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 09:53 PM
Sir. may I suggest you to update your world news? Unless I am wrong there are rumors that USSR was abolished some time ago.

[Dec 10, 2020] The Transnational Financiers as aliens hell-bent of conquering the Earth population

Dec 10, 2020 | zerohedge.com

Dec 4, 2020 10:14 PM Reply to Le Chat Noir

The wonderful world you talk about was not experienced by the peoples of Guatemala, Iran, Chile, Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, Argentinia, Haiti, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Syria and many of the homeless and destitute in the US, UK, Japan etc. The wonderful world you describe is an illusion.

There is a line from the 1960s Science Fiction series called the Invaders from another galaxy who wish take over the world. At the beginning of each episode the narrator says " they wish to take over the world and make it their world".

The Transnational Financiers have been working towards that goal for centuries!!!!

[Dec 06, 2020] Russiagate vs Swampgate

Highly recommended!
Dec 06, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

lux , 05 December 2020 at 02:51 PM

There is a future out there on the time beam ... I somewhat agree with Turley, that Russiagate vs Swampgate, I seem to forget how I labeled the other side of the pole over the years--Obama-Clinton-Gate???---should be investigated--:

Appointment Of Special Counsel Leaves Biden and Democrats In A Muddle

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/12/04/barrs-appointment-of-special-counsel-leaves-biden-and-democrats-in-a-muddle/

Can or should Barr also appoint a special counsel into Hunter-Gate?

[Dec 06, 2020] CNNgate- CNN chief Jeff Zucker offered Trump 'WEEKLY SHOW' gave 'the boss' tips for presidential debate in leaked 2016 audi

Dec 06, 2020 | www.rt.com

CNNgate? CNN chief Jeff Zucker offered Trump 'WEEKLY SHOW' & gave 'the boss' tips for presidential debate in leaked 2016 audio 9 Sep, 2020 03:37 / Updated 2 months ago Get short URL CNNgate? CNN chief Jeff Zucker offered Trump 'WEEKLY SHOW' & gave 'the boss' tips for presidential debate in leaked 2016 audio FILE PHOTOS. © Reuters / Kevin Lamarque ; Reuters / Christian Hartmann 88 Follow RT on RT CNN head Jeff Zucker appears to have offered Donald Trump a "weekly show" on the network in 2016, also giving tips for a presidential debate, arguing Trump could not win the race without his outlet's support, leaked audio reveals.

Zucker – who now presides over one of the most fervently anti-Trump media outlets in the American corporate press – hatched the idea to give then-candidate Trump a weekly slot on CNN during a March 2016 phone call with Micheal Cohen, a lawyer for Trump at the time, according to audio obtained by Fox News' Tucker Carlson.

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Speaking with Cohen hours before the final Republican primary debate in the 2016 race, Zucker said that while the Trump campaign had shown "great instincts, great guts and great understanding of everything," he insisted victory would be impossible without CNN's backing.

"Here's the thing you cannot be elected president of the United States without CNN," Zucker boasted. "Fox and MSNBC are irrelevant – irrelevant – in electing a general election candidate."

ALSO ON RT.COM As obsession with Trump tanks CNN ratings, network doubles down

When Cohen suggested the CNN chief relay his thoughts to Trump himself, Zucker demurred, saying he is "very conscious of not putting too much in email," as Trump – "the boss" – might go blabbing about it on the campaign trail.

You know, as fond as I am of the boss, he also has a tendency if I call him or I email him, he then is capable of going out at his next rally and saying that we just talked, and I can't have that, if you know what I'm saying.

Zucker soon talked himself back into contacting Trump, however, committing to "give him a call right now" to "wish him luck in the debate tonight" – hosted by none other than CNN – adding "I have all these proposals for him, like I want to do a weekly show with him and all this stuff."

He went on to lavish praise on Trump, saying he had "never lost a debate" and would do "great" during the CNN event later that night, even offering detailed advice for how the president-to-be could deflect allegations that he is a "con man" from other candidates.

ALSO ON RT.COM Trump campaign threatens to SUE CNN for 'unfair, unfounded, unethical & unlawful' attacks on president

While the source of the recording is unclear, the leak has made waves online, given that Zucker has since made himself into Trump's " cable news nemesis ." The network itself, meanwhile, has fielded an endless stream of negative coverage of the president, heavily pushing the discredited 'Russiagate' conspiracy theory for years and throwing full weight behind the Democrats' failed impeachment effort.

Some netizens have already suggested the "damning" revelation could soon result in Zucker's ouster from his high perch at CNN.

"You think Jeff Zucker will be fired? I actually think there's a decent chance he will be. Trying to kiss up to Trump is on par with murder in CNN world," wrote filmmaker and conservative pundit Robby Starbuck.

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Others were less taken aback by the audio, as many pointed to the fact that Zucker and Trump have a lengthy history together, both working on 'The Apprentice,' the hit reality show that helped to solidify Trump's status as a pop culture icon. In 2012, Trump even hailed Zucker's takeover as CNN president, saying the network made a "great move," and that Zucker "was responsible for me and The Apprentice on NBC – became #1 show!"

"Everyone knows Zucker made Trump, it's 100% true," one user said . "Trump was down and out. Zucker pitched him a reality TV show called the Apprentice. Why? Because he likes his New Yorkers, he likes Trump."

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[Dec 06, 2020] How dare you granny killer to question usefulness of PCR test

Dec 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

GenuineAmerican 3 hours ago

Fauci has lied again the PCR maximum cycle for a accurate test results is 25 NOT 35. PCR is run, or should be run at 21-25 cycles everything else will give a false positive. Had a friend in Scottsdale MAYO. I had to go to this god-forsaken place to get him out. They were running the PCR at 42 cycles to keep him in the hospital because he had very, very good UNION insurance!! The health industries are all crooks, lying to people to get more money being paid to the orgainizations by the feds.

NatsarimAmericanoLion 6 hours ago

Giorgio Palmas 21 hours ago

U.S TOTAL DEATHS
2015: 2,602,000
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,649,000
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,909,000
According to usalivestats(dot)com, there are 2,486,700 so far this year. There could be a lag in reports, but I doubt enough to fulfill their doomsday claims. The CDC still admits only 6% of these "COVID" are without 2 or more comorbidities, so that's about 25,000 or so. This is a mild flu season. Here are the recent flu numbers:
FLU DEATHS 2010's
2010: 36,656
2011: 12,447
2012: 42,570
2013: 37,930
2014: 51,376
2015: 22,705
2016: 38,230
2017: 61,099
2018: 34,157

africoman 9 hours ago

How dare you granny killer /sarc

Frito 4 hours ago

The past was erased, the erasure forgotten, the lie became truth.

George Orwell - 1984

[Dec 06, 2020] I'm Just Not Buying It

Dec 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"I would take this news more credibly if they came up with a vaccine and they said it worked, like, 53% of the time. There's something about that 94.5% that just looks fishy to me.

[Dec 05, 2020] If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do, you're misinformed

Highly recommended!
Dec 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

librul , Dec 3 2020 22:57 utc | 77

"If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do, you're misinformed."

~ Mark Twain (apocryphal)

[Dec 05, 2020] From this moment on I'll be the new POTUS! Guaido should support me

Highly recommended!
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Ironmanx 55 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:26 PM

From this moment on I'll be the new POTUS, as there is no democratic election possible! Guaido should support me.
TheFishh Ironmanx 41 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:41 PM
Let's just have Guiado be president. After all, he was anointed by St. Trump Himself.
Brayar 1 hour ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:14 PM
The election was stolen. Even most Democratic voters are realizing this. The only people still denying the fraud are the media, big tech, and those who are in on the fraud.
Jeffrey Perkins 51 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:37 PM
ok then..now the citizens of the usa need a group of countries to come liberate us
Ibmekon Jeffrey Perkins 26 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 06:02 PM
Whoa, hold your horses ! Remember the CIA "regime change play book"...
Lansman7 1 hour ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:24 PM
The US election may not have been 'stolen', but if this happened in any other nation America would brand it illegitimate and bomb the hell out of its citizens FIFY
Ibmekon Lansman7 25 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 06:06 PM
.if it had happened elsewhere, it would probably have CIA fingerprints all over it.

[Dec 05, 2020] About this time in 2016, Democrats were pushing the Trump pee-pee tapes and demanding Electors become faithless and cast their votes for Clinton ...to save the Republic.

Dec 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Deap , 02 December 2020 at 06:51 PM


Here is what SNOPES has to say, while taking some licks at just about everything else - no German computer raid and no election fraud. Let's see how this all checks out with the emerging facts, not just their "fact-checking": https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gina-haspel-found-dead/

About this time in 2016, Democrats were pushing the Trump pee-pee tapes and demanding Electors become faithless and cast their votes for Clinton ...to save the Republic.

As they say, the US sausage making factory is messy to behold.

Deap , 02 December 2020 at 06:57 PM


It gets even better in the rumor mill: Obama arrested in Hawaii and Biden is wearing a "boot" to hide his ankle bracelet after his arrest - for espionage and treason: https://truth11.com/2020/12/02/obama-biden-cia-director-gina-haspel-evidently-arrested-for-espionage-voter-fraud/

All the news that is fit to print- and pretty close to the same stuff Schiff, Pelosi and Nadler spent four years dishing out about Trump. Why do we do this to ourselves?

Democrats spent four years tossing bogus and heinous claims against Trump, yet the stomach churns immediately when this same tactic is now reversed and the other side is getting in some licks too. Bogus then and bogus now? Or is this turnabout is fair play - stop the world, I want to get off. No, this is not how I want this game played.

MAD Magazine - Spy vs Spy - life imitating art.

[Dec 05, 2020] Trump the "Our Movement" speech of October 2016

Dec 05, 2020 | off-guardian.org

This is actually a great speech. the problem is that Trump never followed up on his election promises and rhethorics Reply

Lost in a dark wood , Dec 4, 2020 5:21 PM

I wrote the following a few days after the 2020 election:
My prediction for the next four years is that many of the putative "experts" will finally, but reluctantly, start to take note of what Trump has been saying over the preceding four years. However, there will of course be a lot of wilful holdouts.
--

The place to start is the "Our Movement" speech of October 2016.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/25/the-speech-to-save-a-nation/
The Speech To Save A Nation
Posted on October 25, 2016 by Sundance
On October 13th 2016, presidential candidate Donald Trump delivered a speech that defines this moment in our nation's history. Part of that speech has been put to a video. The entire transcript of that speech is below.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/tHsZxJlxHYw?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en-US&autohide=2&wmode=transparent

[Dec 05, 2020] Atlanta arena election fraud: why they seem oblivious of the permanent security cameras in the room

Dec 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

lux , 04 December 2020 at 02:11 PM

2. They seem oblivious of the permanent security cameras in the room,

Sir, I seriously doubt this. If had been one of them, it would be quite easy to convince me it was for my own security. Just in case I was accused by some poll-watchers of deviously underhanded schemes?

[Dec 05, 2020] That is the end all and be all of my interest in this "election" choice between Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

Dec 05, 2020 | www.unz.com

obwandiyag , says: December 4, 2020 at 9:42 pm GMT • 1.1 hours ago

I don't really care because they're all crooks.

But I hope Biden stays the winner because it will make the wife shut up. There is no fate worse than being stuck living with somebody suffering with TDS.

That is the end all and be all of my interest in this "election" choice between Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

[Dec 05, 2020] There are times I really like this Pepe Escobar term for the US Empire-- Stupidistan

Dec 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Dec 4 2020 1:12 utc | 99

There are times I really like this Pepe Escobar term for the Outlaw US Empire-- Stupidistan --and the incoming buch of fools are wasting no time in proving that nomenclature is perfect: "DNI Ratcliffe Warns Next US Administration that China Is 'the Greatest National Security Threat'" instead of taking a look around and declaring the virus as the biggest threat since it's on its way to having killed 300,000 US citizens while China's killed none. What a fool, but that's par for the course.

Grieved , Dec 4 2020 1:30 utc | 103

@100 karlof1

If you think the US policy is stupid - and of course it certainly is - have a laugh at Australia's, in this 91-second video clip that sums it up perfectly:

Australia's Defence Policy Explained - [Satire]

One commenter at YT says the clip is trending on Chinese social media currently.

[Dec 05, 2020] Did Trump meant AIPAC when in 2018 he wrote an EO to stop foreign agents from interfering in US election?

EO 13484 Sept 12, 2018.
Dec 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

slimycorporatedickhead 19 hours ago

he did do something about it in 2018 when he wrote an EO to stop foreign agents from interfering in US election.

Filbert Rabinowitz 19 hours ago

Foreign Agents?

You mean like, AIPAC?

Musum 20 hours ago

I think it's official: we have a Constitutional crisis on our hands.

cashback 20 hours ago

Praise Democracy

Musum 20 hours ago

It's a plutocracy.

[Dec 05, 2020] Is Joe a four-year-old?

Dec 05, 2020 | www.rt.com

Biden offers 'bizarre' story of breaking foot, says he pulled dog's tail while getting out of showe

Many also got a laugh from Biden's seemingly childish behavior. "As a non-dog owner, is it a usual occurrence to chase after your dog fresh from the shower in an attempt to grab its tail? Or is Joe Biden basically my four-year-old after a bath chasing a doggie?" conservative commenter Ben Shapiro sarcastically tweeted.


Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray · 8h Today's headline: Naked Joe Biden chases dog around in the bathroom.
Jillian Anderson @Jillie_Alexis
· Dec 2 Cuomo received an Emmy. Fauci is Time's person of the year. Biden is "president elect." What a complete joke. All of it.

[Dec 05, 2020] There was Watergate. Now, there is Waterbreak.

Dec 05, 2020 | www.unz.com

Priss Factor , says: Website December 4, 2020 at 12:49 am GMT • 22.0 hours ago

There was Watergate.

Now, there is Waterbreak.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/georgias-governor-kemp-going-now-georgia-results-signed-off-invalid/

Then today we found out that individuals stuck around in the Atlanta Center on election night after the water main break occurred and everyone else was sent home.

[Dec 05, 2020] There is a map, courtesy of the Brookings Institute, showing the roughly 500 counties Biden won and the roughly 2,500 counties Trump won. Neoiliberal Dems figured out that they can install Dominion machines just in 5000 counties

Dec 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


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Oh-Globits 13 hours ago

There is a map, courtesy of the Brookings Institute, showing the roughly 500 counties Biden won and the roughly 2,500 counties Trump won.

The bolsheviks have figured out they only have to install the dominion in 500 counties

Lost in translation 12 hours ago

"The status quo has been increasingly rigged to benefit insiders and elites as the powers of central banks and governments have picked the winners (cronies, insiders, cartels and monopolies) and shifted the losses and risks onto the losers (the rest of us)."

Charles displays a remarkable grasp of the obvious. I sometimes wonder if his target audience isn't 11-year olds.

WedgeMan 3 hours ago

It is more accurately called Crony Kleptocratic Capitalism.

J J Pettigrew 6 hours ago

And we were supposed to get ..

the missing 20 pages from the 9/11 commission

the declassified Russiagate papers

the Kennedy assassination papers

NOPE

Weihan 21 hours ago

The rally today in Atlanta, GA, was very encouraging. The people who are loyal to the USA are ready with their pitch forks to haul out the treasonous globalist thugs who have led the country into this unprecedented morass.

sacredfire 21 hours ago

Do you have any idea on how many were there?

Don Storm 8 hours ago (Edited)

There's is no denying. The present 2020 election has abuse, manipulation, obstruction and blatant voter and election fraud written all over it. The absentee ballots have been abused beyond your wildest dreams with a staggering number of ballots void of a persuasive chain of custody, much less proof that the vote was cast by a living and breathing US citizen qualified to vote. It's a very sad tale when you think about it, the Founding Fathers are turning in their graves. And to those who participated and facilitated the fraud and dishonesty: shame on you, shame on you.

[Dec 05, 2020] Butina blowback results in tightening of Russian FARA act

Dec 05, 2020 | www.rt.com

The Russian government is set to expel a prominent human-rights activist, with former president Dmitry Medvedev claiming there's a co-ordinated campaign by international organizations to stoke unrest in the world's largest state.

Vanessa Kogan, the director of the Stichting Justice Initiative project, told Britain's Guardian newspaper that Russian authorities had notified her of the revocation of her residency permit. She will now have two weeks to leave the country, where she has lived for more than ten years. She also has two children with a Russian national.

The Stichting Justice Initiative is an NGO which, it says, provides legal support to Russians in cases of perceived human rights abuses. It has been less open about its funding in recent years, but in 2010 and 2011, it was bankrolled by the Dutch government and the Hungarian billionaire George Soros. via his 'Open Society' pressure group, which has been banned in Russia and declared "undesirable."

ALSO ON RT.COM Prosecutors ban Soros Foundation as 'threat to Russian national security'

Kogan's work has previously focused on the North Caucasus region, where her group has represented people alleging victimization at the hands of authorities. Its activity in the majority Muslim area has reportedly brought tensions with local leaders, such as Ramzan Kadyrov, the head of the Republic of Chechnya.

Now the Deputy Chairman of Russia's Security Council, Medvedev, who has also served as Russia's prime minister, told reporters on Thursday that well-funded foreign groups were using networks in Russia to "exacerbate the internal political situation in certain regions, including through Russian non-profit groups they associate with."

He went on to add that these NGOs "depend on internet media, and use various far-fetched reasons for rewriting the events of our national history." He called this a "large-scale information campaign, being conducted to discredit the leadership of some specific territories and Federal Subjects."

In November, the country's State Duma debated new legislation that would expand the definition of foreign agents, enabling the label to be applied not only to NGOs and media organizations, but also to ordinary citizensIn 2018, the United States imprisoned a Russian citizen, Maria Butina, claiming that she was a foreign agent operating on behalf of Moscow. Authorities allege that she had infiltrated conservative-leaning organizations to promote better ties between Washington and the Kremlin. She served five months in prison, some of it in solitary confinement, before being deported back to Russia.


Zeta029 43 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:01 PM

This is a most dangerous situation. Being unable to openly defeat Russia on a battlefield (not that they didnt try, most recently in Georgia, Ukraine and Syria), the Empire is focusing on certain NGO and people like Navalny to weaken the leadership of Russian Federation. This is the undisputed truth and so these measures should be swift and harsh, for National Security sake.
cangoroo Zeta029 16 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:28 PM
And those NGOs are funded with "printed money" in the Empire. Now Australia has joined the money-printing party of their big-brother US; at the rate of $5billion a week. Money-printing means PIRATING money from the holders of their money, including foreign CentralBnks like China's. It was SEA-PIRACY on which the Empire Britannia was built during the reign of QE1 in the 16th century. Genes, I guess.
Count_Cash Zeta029 18 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:26 PM
It's a multifaceted interference in Russia. The biggest play is economic , the next play is internal friction based on wealth disparity, the third is to create perception that westerners have better rights. The medium is external media, internal media, external courts, attacks on internal courts and political institutions - But there is one thing the western strategists haven't figured - nuclear weapons and their deterrent is aimed at preventing not only military attacks but also other attacks that attempt to politically and economically dominate Russia. While the west think all this activity has no cost, as was shown in the places you reference, there can be a military cost for the western games of interference and pushed far enough it could be a nuclear one. Nuclear Weapons their not just for countering military threats!
TheFishh 40 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:04 PM
Funded by Soros and Dutch government? There you have it. I wonder what Netherlands and the US would do, if some organizations operating there were getting money from Moscow. They'd lock up everyone involved in it. They wouldn't just be told to go back to Russia.
Nonenity TheFishh 16 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:28 PM
They ought to be in OP and making their reports on the war crimes and human rights abuses there - ongoing since before 1948...
Madbovineuk 1 hour ago 3 Dec, 2020 12:58 PM
Expel all NGOs from Russia especially those with American ties
WhoWantsAIDS Madbovineuk 13 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:31 PM
As an American if Putin wants to send Soros workers or sympathizers home in a box he would be doing the world a favor. 💯🔮
Count_Cash Madbovineuk 25 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:19 PM
Yes just boot her and the rest out. They are just trouble makers, if they were straight up they would be running to Iraq or Afghanistan to help people abused by the US.
Timothy-Allen Albertson 1 hour ago 3 Dec, 2020 12:56 PM
Soros, the nazi, needs to be hanged for Crimes Against Humanity. Too bad the Russian Federation did not imprison this Soros agitator for a long term at hard labor.
Zeta029 Timothy-Allen Albertson 41 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:03 PM
She should work all her life, and still I dont think she would repay the harm she did.
Badgecub 1 hour ago 3 Dec, 2020 01:25 PM
Kogan, if you are worried about human rights abuses go to the UK and help Julian Assage
Nonenity Badgecub 18 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:26 PM
And all of those many, many US folks in prison for long periods, mostly for minor offences, because it was their third time stealing a slice of pizza. You don't hear/read/see it on the MSM, but these prisoners are all but slave labor and usually for multinational companies like S...bucks... Indeed in at least two states they are slave labor because they do not even get the cents (well under a dollar) per hour that prisoners in most states do. And should the prisoners refuse to do this labor, they often end up in solitary confinement - well known to be psychological torture...And there are political prisoners as well (not called that, of course, given who and where they are)...not to mention Guantanamo and the various Black Sites around the world and controlled by the CIA.... Stephen Kinzer's book on The Poisoner in Chief...a good read about the post war decades and the human rights abuses by the exceptionalist nation...
TheFishh Badgecub 35 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:09 PM
Yes. And these sorts of contradictions is what gives away these so-called western human rights organizations as a bunch of nefarious fakes.
DoubleKnot 1 hour ago 3 Dec, 2020 01:14 PM
NGO - Non-Gentile Organization
TheFishh DoubleKnot 37 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:07 PM
BING!
Marko Podganjek 15 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:29 PM
I thought that such organizations and people were expelled from Russia long ago. Because on west they want to imprison people that were just on trip in Russia. Not to say if somebody would get money from Russia. The relations and approaches here has to be comparable on both sides.
Smanz 20 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:24 PM
Anything linked to Soros generally only exists to create chaos and ruin the country it is in.
dunkie56 8 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:36 PM
i will say it again...throw the West and it's agents provocateurs out of Russia...all Western companies must leave forthwith and restrict who comes into Russia and tighten the borders! Preferably raise up the iron curtain once again!
SrJustice 5 minutes ago 3 Dec, 2020 02:39 PM
Politicians in the US think that improving relations with other countries is a bad thing because they need enemies, enemies are better than friends to have for Washington, very twisted minds. They just want to scare their people so they can suck more tax money and spend on the weapons manufacturers, where most of those politician invest their money.

[Dec 02, 2020] Saagar and Ryan- CUOMO Nominated For Time Person Of The Year

Cuomo already wrote a book about how he conquered coronavirus ;-)
Fauci and Quomo. Nice. Andrew Cuomo cut Medicaid in New York during a pandemic
Dec 02, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Our Lady
, 2 days ago

Fake news and fake awards.


John Tucker
, 2 days ago

Cuomo cut funding to Hospitals during first wave

Jan Fogle , 2 days ago

considering cuomo was responsible for spreading the virus exponentially in the early days, he probably has had more influence on all of our lives than the others


Pookie Wookie
, 2 days ago

Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize and dropped more bombs than any other President in history and took us from 3 to 7 wars.

Zeljko Dakic , 53 minutes ago

Story about Fauci, at least at the time was that it was so hospitals wouldn't be liable for deaths among medical staff. But I think it was completely bad what both Cuomo and Fauci


Kathleen McCormick
, 1 day ago

Fauci is complicit and not to be trusted. He's worse than Cuomo.

FryeKitFox , 2 days ago

Time is inconsequential. Neoliberal rag.

Techloid Tech , 2 days ago (edited)

Still can't believe people defend Fauci. Then again people defend Obama and Bush...


John Sutherland
, 18 hours ago

Dr. Fauci was the trusted expert who intentionally lied to the American people and made things far worse. Cuomo is directly responsible for why New York's response to the virus was so bad and cost many lives. Bullshit award.


airmark02
, 2 days ago

Fake Media Fake Heros Fake Awards

[Dec 02, 2020] Areas were we are definitely leading

Dec 02, 2020 | www.unz.com

Daniel H , says: November 30, 2020 at 1:56 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

We have more intelligent and successful derivatives traders and hedge fund managers than China. And how much do lawyers earn in China, huh? I'll bet that there aren't that many lawyers in Beijing who earn $1,000,000-$5,000,000 per year, so take that Fred. And we got sports, you know, Basketball, Football, Baseball, Hockey, and Hollywood and MMA too. Important stuff. Yeah, China, huh.

Rob McX , says: November 30, 2020 at 5:00 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Daniel H

You haven't even begun the list. What about America's lead in rappers, professors of black studies, college diversity officers, critical race theorists, etc? Let's hope China doesn't poach them with the offer of bigger salaries. A brain drain like that would be the death knell for the Republic.

Marshal Marlow , says: November 30, 2020 at 6:12 am GMT • 1.3 days ago
@TomSchmidt

Looking back, its like some of those listening to Eisenhower saw his speech as an opportunity: "30 schools? What a waste! Lets build that heavy bomber."

[Dec 02, 2020] What s the difference between a German optimist and a pessimist?

Dec 02, 2020 | www.unz.com

nokangaroos , says: November 30, 2020 at 11:41 am GMT • 1.1 days ago

@Franz

From the Cold War

Q: What´s the difference between a German optimist and a pessimist?
A: The optimist learns Russian, the pessimist Chinese.

Par for the course

[Dec 01, 2020] Who Funds the Statue-Topplers- - The American Conservative

Dec 01, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

he fallen Christopher Columbus statue outside the Minnesota State Capitol after a group led by American Indian Movement members tore it down in St. Paul, Minnesota, on June 10, 2020. (By Tony Webster/Flickr)

DECEMBER 1, 2020

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DECLAN LEARY

In the general chaos of the summer of 2020, it was a typical moment. At the Minnesota State Capitol in St. Paul, a band of activists -- primarily from indigenous-rights groups -- had slung ropes around the neck of a statue of Christopher Columbus and pulled it down by force.

The moment meant different things to different people. For the woke left, it was another culture war victory in the age of 1619 and BLM -- a small and long-delayed comeuppance for the colonial oppressors. For the right, it was the latest advance in the onslaught of the cultural arsonists -- as cities were burning and statues falling down, it seemed that little would survive the spontaneous rage inspired by the death of George Floyd in that same city just two weeks before.

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But it was hardly spontaneous, and it had little (if anything) to do with the death of Mr. Floyd. The destruction of the Columbus statue on the Capitol grounds -- installed by Italian immigrants in 1931 as a pushback against discrimination -- had long been an explicit goal of the region's American Indian activists. The eruption of riots in the early summer simply provided an excuse. As destruction reigned, Twin Cities native activists decided to join in, taking the opportunity to follow through on something they had wanted to do for decades.

It's actually fairly representative of what happened in major cities across the country this summer: local activists had an axe to grind, and the superimposition of a national narrative gave them all the cover they could ever need. (Any outburst of disorder that happens to have occurred after late May is qualified in the media as a "protest following the death of George Floyd" -- a carefully crafted non-descriptor.) It's representative, too, of the interplay among the unholy trinity of the modern activist left: grassroots radicals, big-money donors, and the big money itself -- concentrated in funds where the donor foundations invest their dollars.

The St. Paul statue-toppling was organized by a man named Mike Forcia, a member of the Bad River Band of the Lake Superior Tribe of Chippewa Indians. Forcia is also the chairman of the Twin Cities branch of the American Indian Movement (AIM), and of AIM Patrol.

AIM -- the most prominent network of indigenous activists in the country -- is commonly billed as a grassroots organization. In some ways this is true. AIM was founded in Minneapolis more than half a century ago, as the Indian Relocation Act of 1956 and other federal policies geared toward assimilation created sizable urban communities of Indians drawn away from reservations. Over the years, much of AIM's public profile has been shaped by scattered bands of activists engaging in highly visible stunts, such as the occupation of Alcatraz from 1969 to 1971.

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Even today, the national network remains fairly decentralized -- sometimes ostentatiously so. After Forcia's arrest, AIM's national president Frank Paro "was adamant that the rally was not sanctioned by A.I.M. or associated with the organization," according to court documents . Paro even went so far as to assert "that Mr. Forcia is not affiliated with the National AIM organization" -- an interesting claim, given Forcia's identification as chairman of AIM of the Twin Cities.

It's certainly possible, though -- AIM's decentralization leaves a door open for false claimants, and even the recognized national organization underwent a schism in 1993. Whether or not Forcia is associated with Paro's national AIM organization -- and regardless of who has the strongest claim to the trigram -- it is certain that he is extensively connected in the activist movement of the Twin Cities. The Facebook page he runs for the region under the AIM banner has over 12,000 followers. As of 2010 he was vice chair of the Minneapolis American Indian Center, one of the city's most important hubs of native activity (political and otherwise). He revived and sustains AIM Patrol -- a sort of neighborhood watch on steroids, founded to limit police presence in the urban Indian community -- which had been dormant for decades. And at the very least, he commanded enough influence in the community to organize and execute a protest which drew no small crowd and successfully destroyed a public monument that had been standing for nearly a century. Mike Forcia is no mere unlovable rogue; he is a key player in a network that remains as lively and robust as it was when Minnesota's first Indian radicals began to organize three generations past.

But it would be a mistake to think that the Twin Cities' indigenous activism remains "grassroots" in any meaningful sense. In fact, the cause is supported by some of the region's biggest philanthropic organizations, which in turn support themselves by extensive activities in finance capitalism.

The most notable of these is the Bush Foundation, founded in 1953 by Archibald Bush, a childless executive at 3M. At his death in 1966, Archibald Bush left his fortune to be put toward good works, with no political caveats. Over the intervening decades, the Bush Foundation has shifted ever leftward in tandem with the philanthropic establishment at large; under current president Jennifer Ford Reedy, the foundation has gone fully woke . Institutional connections have been made with the flagship establishments of far-left big money, such as Borealis Philanthropy and the mother of all wokeries, the Tides Foundation. But the Bush Foundation is especially known for its contributions to indigenous causes -- totaling just under $100 million from 1982-2019, with most of that total concentrated in the last few years as the foundation amped up its focus on the cause. This includes over $1 million to the Minneapolis American Indian Center, where Mike Forcia was vice chair.

Another of Bush's biggest beneficiaries is the Minneapolis Foundation, a sizable organization whose scope is limited to the local community, and the recipient of over 40 Bush Foundation grants. Interestingly, the Minneapolis Foundation's Director of Impact Strategy, Economic Vitality -- as well as director of grant-making and special projects, according to her LinkedIn -- is a woman by the name of Jo-Anne Stately who is active in indigenous affairs herself, including a six-year stint as vice president of development at the Indian Land Tenure Foundation. (The ILTF is another recipient of over $1 million in Bush Foundation funds.) In 2013, the Bush Foundation provided a grant of $100,000 to the Minneapolis Foundation to support the Northside Funders Group, a third impact investment organization where Stately happens to serve as co-chair. (Whether Ms. Stately is any relation either to the late Elaine Stately, co-founder of AIM and namesake of its Peacemaker Center in Minneapolis, or Angel Stately, associate of Mike Forcia and prominent witness to the death of George Floyd, remains unclear.) What is clear is that the indigenous activist network of the Twin Cities (and likely elsewhere) has moved far beyond the ragtag band of urban Indian change-makers in the first decades after relocation.

Of course, like big philanthropy in general, these organizations aren't drawing their funds from static coffers. Archibald Bush left the foundation endowed with just about $300 million, a number dwarfed by current assets of more than three times as much. The Bush Foundation, and the Minneapolis Foundation, and Tides and countless others, all rely on investment to sustain and grow their resources. The Bush Foundation's 990 disclosures show just how extensive that reliance is, including substantial investments in Sequoia, one of the nation's leading venture capital firms. Such relationships are sure to raise questions about the dependence not just of progressive groups on capital, but of capital on progressive groups. How long could firms like Sequoia survive without groups like the Bush Foundation underwriting them? That's a question that must be asked, and the exact same question should be directed at the radical groups that this relationship enables, like those who took down Columbus in St. Paul.

The lesson here is not that there's some massive, shady conspiracy behind the people who destroy our cities. It's that no conspiracy is necessary. All that's required is a seemingly innocent, and entirely unguided, process. Money falls into the wrong hands: the hands of the woke, or even the merely progressive. Sustained by the kind of mega-scale investment that now defines our economy, that money allows so-called community organizations to function without any real dependence on the community, and thus without accountability to it. The connection to such national networks also seems to muddy the mission of such organizations, folding them into a broad and ever accelerating progressive agenda.

And when the cultural green light goes live -- this time George Floyd flipped the switch -- the combined power of big money

[Dec 01, 2020] A good start for restoring elections integrity: arrest Andrew Yang. who by his own admission voted in two states

Dems now have the credibility of a shoplifter.
Dec 01, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

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They can start by arresting Andrew Yang.

He said he voted in two states and had his friends doing it to, he even took them to Georgia to vote.


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If George Washington could see what is happening today, he would have turned his boat around in the Delaware and sailed to South America.

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Print By Robert Knight - - Friday, November 27, 2020

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

While President Trump's attorneys continue to challenge the validity of bizarre tallying, anyone interested in free and fair elections should consider the role of Big Tech.

Regardless of the extent of vote fraud, Google , Facebook and Twitter fixed the election for Joe Biden over President Trump . There should be no doubt in any honest observer's mind.

Undercover operatives for Project Veritas caught a Google executive on camera last year boasting that only Google could prevent "the next Trump situation."


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Twitter blatantly kept the public from crucial information less than a month before the election by suspending The New York Post's entire site over its blockbuster articles exposing the Biden family's lucrative contracts in Ukraine and with Communist China.

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey admitted after the election that this probably wasn't the right thing to do. Surveys indicate that enough voters to easily make a difference would not have chosen Mr. Biden if they had known about the colossal corruption. Thanks, Jack. We expect the Biden team will offer you an appropriate form of gratitude.



But something even more powerful in Silicon Valley was afoot than straightforward censorship.

For years, behavioral psychologist Robert Epstein has warned that Google , which accounts for more than 90% of Internet searches, can easily determine elections by adjusting algorithms to favor one party over the other. Given that most people see only the first few entries on a search, the rest might as well be invisible.

" Google 's search algorithm can easily shift the voting preferences of undecided voters by 20 percent or more -- up to 80 percent in some demographic groups -- with virtually no one knowing they are being manipulated," he wrote in 2015 in Politico Magazine, basing his calculations on experiments he conducted along with Ronald E. Robertson.

They showed how the Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME) works in a study published in the Aug. 4, 2015, edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

After five experiments conducted with more than 4,500 participants in the United States and India, they concluded that SEME "can shift the voting preferences of undecided voters and search ranking bias can be masked so that people show no awareness of the manipulation."

In July 2019, Mr. Epstein, a Democrat with a Harvard Ph.D., warned Congress that this was a real threat to election integrity and that Google may have shifted 2.6 million votes to Hillary Clinton in 2016. He said that in the 2020 election, SEME could shift as many as 15 million votes from Mr. Trump to Mr. Biden .

On Nov. 24, Mr. Epstein told FOX News' Tucker Carlson that he believed the SEME technique had cost Mr. Trump this time a "bare minimum" of at least 6 million votes. He said he had 733 field agents in three swing states -- Arizona, Florida and North Carolina -- and that his team recorded more than 500,000 "experiences," such as voting reminders sent to some on Google but not to others.

"We found a period of days when the 'vote' reminder on Google 's home page was being sent only to liberals. Not one of our conservative field agents received a vote reminder during those days." After he blew the whistle on this, he said, Google began sending the "vote" reminder to everyone.

But, recall that we had an unprecedented amount of early voting, with more than 100 million ballots cast before Election Day out of 156.8 million. The damage could already have been done.

On Oct. 31, Mr. Epstein told Tucker Carlson that "just based on the first 150,000 searches that we've looked at, and that's about 1.5 million search results and over a million web pages, we're finding very substantial pro-liberal bias in all 10 or at least nine out of 10 search results on the first page of Google search results – not on Bing or Yahoo, though."

Vote manipulation using technology isn't new. Rutherford B. Hayes, a Republican, won the 1876 presidential election over Democrat Samuel J. Tilden at least in part because of support from Western Union. At the time, Western Union had a virtual monopoly on communications and "the company did its best to assure that only positive news stories about Hayes appeared in newspapers nationwide," Mr. Epstein wrote. "It also shared all the telegrams sent by his opponent's campaign staff with Hayes's staff."

The election dragged on for weeks, with both sides charging vote fraud or voter suppression. In a retrospective article, The Washington Post's Ronald G. Shafter wrote, "Much as President Trump is doing now, backers of Hayes, the governor of Ohio, charged the election was being stolen. The difference was that, unlike now, there was clear evidence of fraud and voter intimidation."

"Unlike now." Right.

One more thing. Not everyone responded to calls for unity after the divided Electoral Commission awarded the last 20 disputed votes, giving Hayes a 185-184 Electoral College victory four months after the election.

Angry Democrats, the forerunners of Black Lives Matter and Antifa, cried "Tilden or blood" and planned "to send a threatening and bellicose mob to the National Capital to see that the count is made according to their wishes," reported an unnamed Washington newspaper.

Given Mr. Epstein's calculations, the Election Night ballot dumps for Mr. Biden and the Democrats' collusion with Big Media and Big Tech, we're seeing the 21st-century equivalent of what Democrats in 1876 called the "stolen election."

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[Dec 01, 2020] Discredited Intel "Professionals" Push Lie About Russian Interference by Larry C Johnson - Sic Semper Tyrannis

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A letter published today ( Monday, October 19, 2020 ) with the signatures of 50 "former intelligence" officials is a self-inflicted wound of comedy and absurdity wrapped in the specious claim of special expertise. Thank God none of these clowns still hold a position anywhere in the national security bureaucracy. Their inability to grasp basic facts and engage in simple reasoning perhaps explains why the Obama team abandoned American military and intelligence officials at Benghazi in September 2012 and why they considered ISIS as "a junior varsity" team.

Basically, this group of mediocrities are sure that the Hunter Biden emails are part of some nasty Rooskie plot:

. . . we write to say that the arrival on the US political scene of emails purportedly belonging to Vice President Biden's son Hunter, much of it related to his time serving on the Board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.

There is only one teeny, tiny problem. They have no facts to back up their deluded judgment, supposedly based on years of experience. Just goes to show that experience without real intelligence is no substitute for competence.

Let us start with the facts that are documented:

1. Hunter Biden signs a work order on 12 April 2019 with The Mac Shop in Wilmington, Delaware to recover data on the hard drive of a Mac Laptop damaged by water.

2. The repair is completed on the 17th of April. Hunter Biden is notified by email and phone that the laptop and hard drive are ready to be picked up. Total cost--$85. Hunter did not respond. (Running the recovery on the hard drive apparently was not an expensive proposition).

3. In September of 2019, the owner of the Mac Shop talked with his dad about the Biden computer and the fact that it had material that might be relevant to the Ukraine issue. Father and son decided the best course of action was to approach the FBI. The father, who lives in Albuquerque, New Mexico, volunteered to make the approach.

4. Steve Mac Isaac, father of John Paul Mac Isaac, goes to the FBI field office in Albuquerque in mid-September and offers the hard drive and work order to the FBI. The FBI only makes a copy of the work order and asks Mr. Mac Isaac to leave. The FBI volunteers no further actions on the part of the Mac Isaacs.

5. November 2019, the FBI suddenly reaches out to the Mac Isaac's and visits the shop in Wilmington, Delaware. John Paul Mac Isaac asks the FBI to take the computer and the hard drive. They refuse and leave.

6. Early December 2019, the FBI returns to the Mac Shop and presents a grand jury subpoena for the computer and the hard drive. John Paul Mac Isaac happily surrenders the items to the FBI.

7. John Paul Mac Isaac watched and wondered from December 2019 thru August 2020, expecting the FBI would do something with the information on the computer and the hard drive. But nothing happened. John Paul turned over a copy of the hard drive to Rudy Giuliani's attorney in early September 2020.

The New York Post stories based on the contents of the hard drive came from Rudy Giuliani and his team, not from John Paul Mac Isaac.

The Director of National Intelligence, John Ratcliffe , declared on the record on Monday, October 19th, that the info on the Hunter Biden computer is not Russian disinformation. He specifically stated that there was no intelligence to support such a conclusion.

Today (Tuesday, October 20) the FBI and the Department of Justice confirmed the DNI's declaration :

ONE senior federal law enforcement official says:

1-The FBI and DOJ concur with DNI Ratcliffe's assessment that Hunter Biden's laptop and emails in question were not part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

2-The FBI DOES have possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in question.

If this was a Russian operation, it would mean the Russians have the most amazing and powerful intelligence capability in the world. Specifically, it would mean the following:

  1. The Russians knew months in advance of April 2019 that Joe Biden was going to declare as a candidate for President and then managed to give an actual Hunter Biden laptop to the computer repair shop in Delaware.
  2. The Russians knew that the FBI would take possession of the lap top and the hard drive in December 2019--more than five months before Joe Biden secured the Democrat nomination for President--and that they could control what the FBI did and what John Paul Mac Isaac did.

If the emails published from the material Rudy Giuliani supplied to the New York Post differed from those on the lap top and hard drive in the possession of the FBI, it would be easy to discredit Rudy. The FBI would simply have to state that no such emails exist on the Hunter Biden computer and hard drive.

There is no evidence that John Paul Mac Isaac acted at the behest of any outside power to give the Hunter Biden hard drive to Rudy Giuliani. What we do know is that John Paul Mac Isaac never tried to sell the hard drive to the tabloid media nor did he try to give it to any member of the press. John Paul is a true patriot. He trusted the FBI and thought the system would do the right thing.

So there you have it. Proven liars like Jim Clapper and John Brennan, along with the likes of Mike Hayden, are claiming without one shred of evidence that emails validated by the FBI are somehow a magical Russian disinformation campaign. As I noted at the outset, it would be laughable were the claim not so dangerous to the security of the United States. They are the ones meddling in the Presidential election by using their status as former top intel officials as a platform for spreading a lie about Russian interference in hopes of persuading uninformed voters to accept this mendacity as fact.

This has nothing to do with Russians, except for the millions a wealthy Russian oligarch paid to Hunter. The truth of the matter is the Joe Biden used his son, Hunter, to enrich himself and his family. While Democrats continuously insist that Donald Trump is corrupt and unethical, the Hunter Biden emails provide devastating evidence that it is the Bidens, not the Trumps, who are engaged in corrupt and slimy business deals. Those are the facts.


eakens , 21 October 2020 at 10:59 AM

Hayden, Clapper, Brennan, and Schiff, amongst many others need to be sent to the gallows. Who will send them there?

Diana L Croissant , 21 October 2020 at 01:02 PM

I am so very happy I am NOT related to the Biden family.

I just received confirmation from my County Clerk and Recorder that my completed ballot was received in her office after being retrieved from the lock box in which I submitted by ballot. I did NOT vote for Joe.

Deap , 21 October 2020 at 01:26 PM

All named parties should be under Barr-Durham's radar for Russiagate alone. One more reason to re-elect Trump: Finish the Barr-Durham Probe.

How will this story end. Then move on to investigate why nothing was done about Hunter Biden's computers held in FBI hands since Dec 2019.

Meanwhile, make your case independent of these ongoing investigations, why and how will America get back on track after you are re-elected? Hungry to hear the good news.

j. casey , 21 October 2020 at 01:34 PM

So Hunter is Joe's bagman for pay to play schemes? Probably I am being naive, but wouldn't it be prudent to keep your bagman slightly further at arm's length than your troubled, drug-using, teen-diddling son?

james , 21 October 2020 at 01:35 PM

thanks larry... have to keep up the russia plot, lol... if you haven't seen patrick armstrongs article yet, it is worth the read..
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/10/20/russophrenia-or-how-a-collapsing-country-runs-the-world/

TV , 21 October 2020 at 02:04 PM

Nothing will happen - no consequences, no punishment.
Bill Barr's (a swamp creature in good standing) mask is dropping - the phony Durham "investigation," documents held by the FBI NEVER released to Congress despite numerous requests (not that the Senate seems overly curious, more like going through the motions), ignoring the Biden crimes, Antifa/BLM running wild and no investigations, indictments.
The swamp is winning.
The message: "Don't question us, don't argue with us. WE run this country, not Trump, not you. Now shut up and wear a mask."
And the sad irony: the swamp is grossly inept.
If these "mediocrities" rose to the top, imagine the losers below them?

blue peacock , 21 October 2020 at 04:07 PM

The FBI sat on this for over a year. Trump nominees have run the FBI & DOJ for 4 years.

What would change in his second term?

turcopolier , 21 October 2020 at 06:53 PM

BP New People

Bill H , 22 October 2020 at 01:46 AM

Deap
"Finish the Barr-Durham Probe?" The Barr-Durham Probe is finished. One trivial indictment. Done.

Teakwoodkite , 23 October 2020 at 11:01 PM

As the deal takes shape in 2017, Mr. Bobulinski begins to question what Hunter will contribute besides his name, and worries that he was "kicked out of US Navy for cocaine use." Mr. Gilliar acknowledges "skill sets [sic] missing" and observes that Hunter "has a few demons." He explains that "in brand [Hunter is] imperative but right know [sic] he's not essential for adding input." Mr. Bobulinski writes that he appreciates "the name/leverage being used" but thinks the economic "upside" should go to the team doing the actual work. Mr. Gilliar reminds him that those on the Chinese side "are intelligence so they understand the value added."

LJ am I to understand that Mr.Gilliar KNEW he was dealing with Chinese intelligence and still went all in?

TeakWoodKite , 23 October 2020 at 11:06 PM

The quote is from WSJ

Larry C Johnson , 23 October 2020 at 11:09 PM

Teak,
Yes. He knew. Awful.

TeakWoodKite , 24 October 2020 at 12:09 AM

Along those lines I find this which puts meat on those crackhead bones
A National Security Threat !

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2020/10/23/jaw-dropping-report-details-chinese-state-owned-companys-partnership-with-biden-kerry-families-n267739
The Chinese have no qualms about pissing off a few billion if it can buy the Vice President of the United States.
Them whores ain't cheap.

[Dec 01, 2020] How DHS and FBI officials spun a dubious Russian election threat days before voting - The Grayzone

Dec 01, 2020 | thegrayzone.com

A Department of Homeland Security election alert spawning new Russia fears was so incoherent and inconsistent with previous findings, it suggested a state of political panic inside the agency.

Just days before the 2020 election the bureaucratic forces behind the original claim of Russian hacking of state election-related websites in 2016 launched a new drive to spawn fears of Moscow-made political chaos in the wake of the voting.

The new narrative was not consistent with information previously published by the the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), however. It was so incoherent, in fact, that it suggested a state of panic on the part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials worried about a possible transition to a Joe Biden administration.

On October 20, Christopher Krebs, the head of CISA, issued a video statement expressing confidence that "it would be incredibly difficult for them to change the outcome of an election at the national level." Then he abruptly changed his tone, adding, "But that doesn't mean various actors won't try to introduce chaos in our elections and make sensational claims that overstate their capabilities. In fact, the days and weeks just before and after Election Day is the perfect time for our adversaries to launch efforts intended to undermine your confidence in the integrity of the electoral process."

Krebs' warning of a possible Russian announcement that hackers had succeeded in disrupting the result of the U.S. election was so removed from reality that it suggested internal panic DHS over the failure of Russian hackers to do anything that could be cited as interfering in the election.

Two days after Krebs' dubious warning, the FBI and the DHS's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued an "alert" reporting that "a Russian state-sponsored APT [Advanced Persistent Threat] actor" known as "Berserk Bear" had "conducted a campaign against a wide variety of U.S. targets."

Since "at least September," according to the DHS alert, the DHS warning claimed that it had targeted "dozens" of "U.S. state, local, territorial and tribal government networks." It even claimed that the supposed Russian campaign had compromised the network infrastructure of several official organizations and "exfiltrated data from at least two victims servers." At the same time, it acknowledged there was "no indication" that any government operations had been "intentionally disrupted."

The report went on to suggest, "[T]here may be some risk to elections information housed on SLTT [state, local territorial and tribal] government networks." And then it abruptly shifted tone and level of analysis to offer the speculation that the Russian government "may be seeking access to obtain future disruption options, to influence U.S. policies or actions", or to "delegitimize" the "government entities".

On October 28, Krebs elaborated on the latter theme in an interview with the PBS NewsHour . Referring inaccurately to government warnings about "Russian interference, some of which targeted voter registration," which the FBI-CISA alert had never mentioned, PBS interviewer William Brangham asked, "Do you worry at all that there might be infiltration that we are not aware of?"

Instead of correcting Brangham's inaccurate suggestion, Krebs responded that "infiltration" into voter registration files was "certainly possible," but that "[W]e have improved the ability to detect compromises or anomalous activity."

Krebs then homed in on a scenario he obviously wanted the public to focus on: "[Y]ou might see various actors, foreign powers, claim that they were able to accomplish something, [that] they were able to hack a database or hack the vote count. And it's simply not true."

Although the October 22 alert did not assert any deliberate Russian government hack of election-related sites, Krebs sought to keep speculation about both Russian capabilities and intent alive.

The buried alert that undermined the frightening official assessment

Eleven days before Krebs debuted his speculation about Russia claiming to have hacked U.S. elections, the FBI and CISA issued a separate alert that seriously undercut his questionable claims.

The earlier document was clearly referring to the very same efforts by hackers to break into various websites addressed in the October 22 alert. It not only referred to the same state and local government networks and to the wider range of targets affected but also mentioned precisely the same technical vulnerabilities that were targeted in the series of hacks.

The alert further stated that, "[I]t does not appear these targets are being selected because of their proximity to elections information ." In other words, the two US agencies conceded they had no basis for attributing the hacks in question to any election interference plot.

The most striking difference between the two alerts, however, was that the October 9 alert did not refer to any "Russian state-sponsored APT actor" as the October 22 one did. Instead, it simply pointed to "APT actors" in the plural, indicating that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence indicating a single actor was at work, let alone one that was "Russian-state sponsored."

Contrary to the impression that U.S. officials may have conveyed in referencing an "Advance Persistent Threat," or APT, it is now widely understood by cybersecurity specialists that this term no longer refers to a state-sponsored actor. That is because the sophisticated tools and techniques once associated with state-sponsored hacking have now become available to a much wider range of cyber actors. Indeed, the codes for such high-end tools have been identified in the Shadow Brokers and Vault 7 leaks, and the tools have been marketed widely at affordable prices on the dark web.

The October 9 alert firmly established the dearth of evidence on the part of CISA and FBI about a Russian state-sponsored hacking team planning elections-related operations in the U.S. The sudden pivot days later to an unqualified claim that a single state-sponsored APT had been responsible for the same very large range of operations should have been accompanied by claims of substantial new intelligence, or at least a reference to the evidence underlying the dramatic new reversal. But no such proof ever arrived.

Scott McConnell, the spokesman for CISA, promised the Grazyzone on October 29 that he would provide someone to answer questions about the October 22 alert by the close of business Friday. In the end, however, no one from CISA responded, and there was no answer on McConnell's line.

The peculiar reversal by the DHS and CISA on the hacking claims raise questions about the institutional considerations taken by these agencies. Did indications that President Donald Trump's campaign was faltering inform their decision to issue a more stridently anti-Russian assessment in hopes of surviving a political transition?

The US officials who drew up the initial pre-election alert seemed keenly aware that despite that drumbeat of over the past two years, no state-sponsored Russian hacking of election institutions was underway. But as the Trump campaign sputtered, they had their own careers to consider. Days later, DHS and CISA declared the wily Russians guilty of yet another malign operations -- one that would not require them to have slightest evidence to support, and that would be impossible for them to explain.


[Dec 01, 2020] Biden pick for OMB director has a Steele dossier problem

Dec 01, 2020 | www.washingtonexaminer.com

P resident-elect Joe Biden's pick to run the Office of Management and Budget has a history of defending British ex-spy Christopher Steele's discredited anti-Trump dossier.

Years of controversial claims about the Trump-Russia controversy, particularly about the dossier funded in part by Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign, presents one of several obstacles for Neera Tanden, a longtime Democratic operative, to achieve Senate confirmation next year.

A significant question that remains is how the two Senate runoff races in Georgia shake out in January, with control of the upper chamber hanging in the balance. Tanden is sure to meet stiff opposition from Republicans, who will be led by Sen. Mitch McConnell, whom Tanden derisively tweeted in August 2019, "Stacey Abrams just called McConnell 'Moscow Mitch.' Love it."

In selecting Tanden on Monday, Biden described the president of the left-wing Center for American Progress as "a leading architect and advocate of policies designed to support working families." Tanden worked on Bill Clinton's successful run in 1992 and Barack Obama's successful presidential run in 2008. She was also an adviser on Hillary Clinton's successful Democratic primary effort in 2016 and the failed general election run that November.

Not mentioned in her Biden transition team biography was the role Tanden played in promoting unsubstantiated claims throughout the Trump-Russia controversy.

Tanden launched the "Moscow Project" in 2017, and after Buzzfeed published Steele's dossier in January 2017, Tanden's think tank released a statement saying, "The intelligence dossier presents profoundly disturbing allegations; ones that should shake every American to the core." Tanden went on to defend the Steele dossier repeatedly on Twitter, attacking those who critiqued the FBI for relying on its claims to obtain Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act authority against former Trump campaign associate Carter Page and implying that critics of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation were doing Russia's bidding.

"Make Chris Steele the next James Bond," Tanden tweeted in January 2017.

In a tweet about Rep. Devin Nunes's FISA memo in February 2018, which criticized the FBI's surveillance of Page and its use of the dossier, the Washington Examiner's Byron York noted that "no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information." Tanden responded by saying, "Even if this is true, hasn't the dossier been mostly proven to be true? It's amazing how comfortable the likes of Byron York are happy to run interference for Russians intervening in our elections." Tanden followed up with another tweet claiming that the "dossier has been mostly established as right."

Tanden's "Moscow Project" also released a flawed critique of the Republican FISA memo, with Tanden defending the FBI's surveillance. In addition, Tanden tweeted in April 2018 that the dossier was "started with funding by a GOP megadonor."

Although the conservative Free Beacon had hired the opposition research firm Fusion GPS, it said in October 2017 that it "had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier." It later emerged that Steele was not commissioned by Fusion GPS (and did not begin compiling his dossier) until Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias hired Fusion.

"What parts of the dossier have been disproven?" Tanden tweeted in January 2019. "I will wait."

DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz's December 2019 report and subsequent declassifications undermined Steele's claims in the dossier. Horowitz said the Trump-Russia investigation concealed exculpatory information from the FISA court, and he criticized the Justice Department and FBI for at least 17 "significant errors and omissions" related to the FISA warrants against Page and for the bureau's reliance on Steele. Declassified footnotes show the FBI knew Steele's dossier may have been compromised by Russian disinformation . Horowitz said FBI interviews with Steele's main source, U.S.-based and Russian-trained lawyer Igor Danchenko, "raised significant questions about the reliability of the Steele election reporting."

FBI Director Christopher Wray called the FISA findings "utterly unacceptable" this year and concurred with the DOJ's conclusions that at least two of the four FISA warrants against Page amounted to illegal surveillance.

Nearly all the FISA signatories -- Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates , Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein , fired FBI Director James Comey , and fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe -- indicated under oath they wouldn't have signed off on the surveillance if they knew then what they know now, and a declassified FBI spreadsheet showed the lack of corroboration for Steele's claims.

Other Russia-related claims Tanden has made could present sticking points during her confirmation process.

She tweeted on Oct. 31, 2016, that President Trump was a Russian "puppet" in part because there was a "Trump server connected to Russian bank" and tweeted again in December 2016 that Trump may have gotten "talking points from the server at Trump Tower connected to Russia."

The claim that a Russian Alfa Bank server was secretly communicating with a server at Trump Tower, also pushed by Steele, emerged in 2016, but Horowitz noted the FBI "concluded by early February 2017 that there were no such links," and the Senate Intelligence Committee's August report did not find "covert communications between Alfa Bank and Trump Organization personnel." Jake Sullivan, Biden's pick for national security adviser, also pushed the refuted Alfa Bank claim in 2016.

The week after Trump's victory, following reports that Russian cyberactors had targeted a number of state election systems, Tanden mused, "Why would hackers hack in unless they could change results?" The next day, she pushed back against criticism she received, tweeting, "Funny, I don't remember saying Russian hackers stole Hillary's victory." There is no evidence that Russian hackers changed any votes in 2016.

"Mueller found Russian interference in the election. He also found Trump coordinated with Russia. These are facts," Tanden tweeted in October.

Although Mueller's investigation concluded in 2019 that the Russian government interfered in a "sweeping and systematic fashion," the report "did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

After the report's release, Tanden tweeted that "Mueller has failed the country" and "Adam Schiff > Robert Mueller." Earlier this year, Schiff released dozens of House Intelligence Committee witness interviews that showed Obama's top national security officials testified they hadn't seen direct evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.

[Dec 01, 2020] The Digital 'Iron Curtain' Descends -- Strategic Culture

Dec 01, 2020 | www.strategic-culture.org

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What is a 'digital Iron Curtain'? It is when Big Digital, as Professor Michael Rectenwald terms these western Tech Goliaths, become 'governmentalities', using a word originally coined by Michel Foucault to refer to the means by which the 'governed' (i.e. 'we the people') assimilate, and reflect outwardly, a mental attitude desired by the élites: "One might point to masking and social distancing as instances of what Foucault meant by his notion of governmentality", Rectenwald suggests .

And what is that desired 'mentality'? It is to embrace the transfiguration of American and European identity and way-of-life. The presumptive U.S. President Elect, the European élites, and top 'woke' élites moreover, are publicly committed to such "transformation": "Now we take Georgia, then we change the world," (Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader, declared , celebrating Joe Biden's 'victory'); "Trump's defeat can be the beginning of the end of the triumph of far-right populisms also in Europe", claimed Donald Tusk, former president of the European Council.

In short, the 'Iron Curtain' descends when supposedly private enterprises (Big Digital) mutually inter-penetrate with – and then claim – the State: No longer the non-believer facing this coming metamorphosis is to be persuaded – he can be compelled . Regressive values held on identity, race and gender quickly slipped into a 'heresy' labelling. And as the BLM activists endlessly repeat: "Silence is no option: Silence is complicity ".

With the advent of Silicon Valley ideology's ubiquitous 'reach', the diktat can be achieved through weaponising 'Truth' via AI, to achieve a 'machine learning fairness ' that reflects only the values of the coming revolution – and through AI 'learning' mounting that version of binary 'truth', up and against an adversarial 'non-truth' (its polar opposite). How this inter-penetration came about is through a mix of early CIA start-up funding; connections and contracts with state agencies, particularly relating to defence; and in support for propaganda campaigns in service to 'governmentalist' narratives.

These U.S. Tech platforms have, for some time, become effectively fused into the 'Blue State' – particularly in the realms of intelligence and defence – to the extent that these CEOs no longer see themselves as state 'partners' or contractors, but rather, as some higher élite leadership, precisely shaping and directing the future of the U.S. Their objective however, is to advance beyond the American 'sphere', to a notion that such an élite oligarchy eventually would be directing a future 'planetary governance'. One, in which their tech tools of AI, analytics, robotics and machine-learning, would become the mathematical and digital scaffold around whose structure, the globe in all its dimensions is administered. There would be no polity – only analytics.

The blatant attempt by Big Tech platforms and MSM to write the narrative of the 2020 Facebook and Twitter U.S. Election – coupled with their campaign to insist that dissent is either the intrusion of enemy disinformation, 'lies' coming from the U.S. President, or plain bullsh*t – is but the first step to re-defining 'dissenters' as security risks and enemies of the good.

The mention of 'heresy and disinformation' additionally plays the role of pushing attention away from the gulf of inequality between smug élites and skeptical swathes of ordinary citizenry. Party élites might be notoriously well-known for unfairly enriching themselves, but as fearless knights leading the faithful to battle, élites can become again objects of public and media veneration – heroes who can call believers ' once more unto the breach! '.

The next step is already being prepared – as Whitney Webb notes :

A new cyber offensive was launched on Monday by the UK's signal intelligence agency, GCHQ, which seeks to target websites that publish content deemed to be "propaganda", [and that] raise concerns regarding state-sponsored Covid-19 vaccine development – and the multi-national pharmaceutical corporations involved.

Similar efforts are underway in the U.S., with the military recently funding a CIA-backed firm to develop an AI algorithm aimed specifically at new websites promoting "suspected" disinformation related to the Covid-19 crisis, and the U.S. military–led Covid-19 vaccination effort known as Operation Warp Speed

The Times reported that GCHQ "has begun an offensive cyber-operation to disrupt anti-vaccine propaganda being spread by hostile states" and "is using a toolkit developed to tackle disinformation and recruitment material peddled by Islamic State" to do so The GCHQ cyber war will not only take down "anti-vaccine propaganda", but will also seek to "disrupt the operations of the cyberactors responsible for it, including encrypting their data so they cannot access it and blocking their communications with each other."

The Times stated that "the government regards tackling false information about inoculation as a rising priority as the prospect of a reliable vaccine against the coronavirus draws closer," suggesting that efforts will continue to ramp up as a vaccine candidate gets closer to approval.

This larger pivot toward treating alleged "anti-vaxxers" as "national security threats" has been ongoing for much of this year, spearheaded in part by Imran Ahmed, the CEO of the UK-based Center for Countering Digital Hate , a member of the UK government's Steering Committee on Countering Extremism Pilot Task Force, which is part of the UK government's Commission for Countering Extremism.

Ahmed told the UK newspaper The Independent in July that "I would go beyond calling anti-vaxxers conspiracy theorists to say they are an extremist group that pose a national security risk." He then stated that "once someone has been exposed to one type of conspiracy it's easy to lead them down a path where they embrace more radical world views that can lead to violent extremism Similarly, a think tank tied to U.S. intelligence argued in a research paper published just months before the onset of the Covid-19 crisis that "the U.S. 'anti-vaxxer' movement would pose a threat to national security in the event of a 'pandemic with a novel organism.'"

Just to be clear, it is not just the 'Five Eyes' Intelligence Community at work – YouTube, the dominant video platform owned by Google, decided this week to remove a Ludwig von Mises Institute video, with more than 1.5 million views, for challenging aspects of U.S. policy on the Coronavirus.

What on earth is going on? The Mises Institute as 'extremist', or purveyor of enemy disinformation? (Of course, there are countless other examples.)

Well, in a word, it is 'China'. Maybe it is about fears that China will surpass the U.S. economically and in Tech quite shortly. It is no secret that the U.S., the UK and Europe, more generally, have botched their handling of Covid, and may stand at the brink of recession and financial crisis.

China, and Asia more generally, has Covid under much better control. Indeed, China may prove to be the one state likely to grow economically over the year ahead.

Here's the rub: The pandemic persists. Western governments largely have eschewed full lockdowns, whilst hoping to toggle between partial social-distancing, and keeping the economy open – oscillating between turning the dials up or down on both. But they are achieving neither the one (pandemic under control), nor the other (saving themselves from looming economic breakdown). The only exit from this conundrum that the élites can see is to vaccinate everyone as soon as possible, so that they can go full-steam on the economy – and thus stop China stealing a march on the West.

But 40%-50% of Americans say they would refuse vaccination . They are concerned about the long term safety for humans of the new mRNA technique – concerns, it seems, that are destined to be rigorously de-platformed to make way for the "required" saturation of pro-vaccine messaging across the English-speaking media landscape.

There is no evidence , yet, that either the Moderna or the Pfizer experimental vaccine prevented any hospitalizations or any deaths. If there were, the public has not been told. There is no information about how long any protective benefit from the vaccine would persist. There is no information about safety. Not surprisingly there is public caution, which GCHQ and Big Digital intend to squash .

The digital Iron Curtain is not just about America. U.S. algorithms, and social media, saturate Europe too. And Europe has its 'populists' and state 'deplorables' (currently Hungary and Poland), on which Brussels would like to see the digital 'Curtain' of denigration and political ostracism descend.

This month, Hungary and Poland vetoed the EU bloc's €1.8 trillion budget and recovery package in retaliation for Brussel's plan effectively to fine them for violating the EU's 'rule of law' principles. As the Telegraph notes , "Many European businesses are depending on the cash and, given the 'second wave' of coronavirus hitting the continent, Brussels fears that the Visegrád Group allies" could hold a recovery hostage to their objections to the EU 'rule-of-law' 'fines').

What's this all about? Well, Orbán's justice minister has introduced a series of constitutional changes. Each of them triggering 'rule-of-law' disputes with the EU. The most contentious amendment is an anti-LGBT one, stating explicitly that the mother is a woman, the father is a man . It will add further restrictions for singles and gay couples adopting children, and it will confine gender transition to adults.

Orbán's veto is yet more evidence of a new Iron Curtain descending down the spine of – this time – Europe. The 'Curtain' again is cultural, and has nothing to do with 'law'. Brussels makes no secret of its displeasure that many Central and Eastern European member-states will not sign up to 'progressive' (i.e. woke) values. At its root lies the tension that "whilst Western Europe is de-Christianising , Europe's central and eastern states are re-Christianising – the faith having been earlier a rallying point against communism", and now serving as the well-spring to these states' post-Cold War emerging identity. (It is not so dissimilar to some 'Red' American conservative constituencies that also are reaching back to their Christian roots, in the face of America's political polarisation.)

These combined events point to a key point of inflection occurring in the western polity: A constellation of state and state-extended apparatuses has openly declared war on dissent ('untruths'), foreign 'disinformation' and opinion unsupported by their own 'fact-checking'.

It takes concrete form through Big Digital's quiet sanctioning and punitive policing of online platforms, under the guise of tackling abuse; through nation-wide mandatory re-education and training programmes in anti-racism and critical social theory in schools and places of work; by embedding passive obedience and acquiescence amongst the public through casting anti-vaxxers as extremists, or as security risks; and finally, by mounting a series of public spectacles and theatre by 'calling out' and shaming sovereigntists and cultural 'regressives', who merit being 'cancelled'.

In turn, it advances an entire canon of progressivism rooted in critical social theory, anti-racism and gender studies. It has too its own revisionist history (narratives such as the 1619 Project) and progressive jurisprudence for translation into concrete law.

But what if half of America rejects the next President? What if Brussels persists with imposing its separate progressive cannon? Then the Iron Curtain will descend with the ring of metal falling onto stone. Why? Precisely because those adhering to their transformative mission see 'calling out' transgressors as their path to power – a state in which dissent and cultural heresy can be met with enforcement (euphemistically called the 'rule of law' in Brussels). Its' intent is to permanently keep dissenters passive, and on the defensive, fearing being labelled 'extremist', and through panicking fence-sitters into acquiescence.

Maintaining a unified western polity may no longer be possible under such conditions. Should the losers in this struggle (whomsoever that may be), come to fear being culturally overwhelmed by forces that see their way-of-being as a heresy which must be purged, we may witness a powerful turn towards political self-determination.

When political differences become irreconcilable, the only (non-violent) alternative might come to be seen to lie with the fissuring of political union.

[Dec 01, 2020] Tony Blinken Replaces Mike Pompeo by Philip Giraldi

Dec 01, 2020 | www.unz.com

Tony Blinken Replaces Mike Pompeo Israel's friends will enjoy four more years in power PHILIP GIRALDI DECEMBER 1, 2020 1,900 WORDS 1 COMMENT REPLY Tweet Reddit Share Share Email Print More RSS

I for one am getting really excited by the staff that Honest Joe Biden is pulling together for the White House. When I first heard the name Tony Blinken during the Obama kleptocracy I assumed that he was one of those Ivy League lawyer types that proliferate in Washington, likely affiliated with the firm of Winken, Blinken and Nod, which we all know to be in partnership with Dewey, Cheatem and Howe. But I was wrong. He actually was affiliated to a much bigger fraternity, which one might call Zionists in government. You know, those nice well educated, always polite Jewish boys and sometimes girls who have self-designated as foreign policy experts and who work their way up through the various levels of power that might lead to the most coveted positions at the top in the state department and national security apparatus. Blinken was one such striver, and I began to feel the pricking in my thumbs that was telling me that something evil this way was coming when he was mentioned now and again as a former close adviser to the already beatified Barack Obama. And some in the media had observed with approval that he had more recently been briefing Joe Biden, particularly about Israel and the Middle East.

In an interview in the Times of Israel Blinken confirmed Biden's position on possibly reducing aid to Israel if the Jewish state were to do things that damaged U.S. interests. Blinken " reiterated Biden's position that he would not condition aid to Israel. He [Biden] is resolutely opposed to it. He would not tie military assistance to Israel to any political decisions it makes, full stop."

The question of withholding aid is itself moot as Israel does nothing but "do things" that damage U.S. interests, knowing that no president or the Congress would dare to turn off the money tap, but it is an interesting unambiguous admission from Blinken that both he and Joe Biden put Israeli interests ahead of those of the United States.

Blinken's personal view of unfettered support for Israel allegedly derives from his stepfather having claimed to be a survivor of the so-called holocaust, a tale that he invoked several times during his acceptance speech on November 24 th . The Times interview concludes with Blinken asserting that "One of the things that's really shaped the vice president's career-long support for Israel and its security is the lesson of the Holocaust. He believes strongly that a secure Jewish homeland in Israel is the single best guarantee to ensure that never again will the Jewish people be threatened with destruction."

The indefatigable Israel-firster Tony Blinken has also served as a "conduit" to those in government for Israel advocacy groups like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). And now that we have Tony Blinken as Secretary of State Designate the door will soon be wide open to the Israel Lobby.

If you need to know more about what Tony Blinken is all about you only have to look at his friends and his track record. Israel was inevitably quick off the mark in saluting the appointment, both in its media and through its mouthpieces in the United States. Stalwart Canadian Zionist Mark Dubowitz, who heads the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), tweeted that Blinken would be part of a " superb national security team. The country will be very fortunate to have them in public service."

The signal from FDD is particularly important as the organization is directed by the Israeli Embassy in Washington. FDD is the leading neoconservative bastion seeking a war with Iran, Israel's bête noir . Its Leadership Council has featured former CIA Director James Woolsey, Senator Joe Lieberman, and Bill Kristol. Its advisors and experts are mostly Jewish and most of its funding comes from Jewish oligarchs.

A recent expose by al-Jazeera exposed how FDD and other Lobby groups work directly with the Israeli government, collecting information on U.S. citizens, spying on legal organizations, and both planning and executing disinformation at Israeli direction, making it an Israeli agent by the definition of the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938 (FARA). Unfortunately, the Department of Justice has never sought to compel FDD to register under FARA. In fact, the U.S. government has never compelled any part of the vast and powerful Israel Lobby to register.

Tony, inevitably a Harvard graduate plus a JD from Columbia who has never served in the U.S. military, is inevitably a chicken-hawk because that is what America's Zionists and their political neocon wing are made of. It is a phenomenon that has often been noted. In 2017, Israel's Deputy Prime Minister Tzipi Hotovely called out American Jews as "people that never send their children to fight for their country, most of the Jews don't have children serving as soldiers, going to the Marines, going to Afghanistan, or to Iraq. Most of them are having quite convenient lives " Of 1,300,000 active duty personnel in the U.S. armed forces, only 4,515 are Jewish.

This is how it works: instead of actually fighting in the wars you are promoting, you have your tax-exempt "educational foundations" pour tons of money into a project to go to war and corrupt the politicians to issue the necessary orders so unemployed kids from Arkansas and North Dakota can go off and die for Israel. You yourself remain safe at home, free to deliver bellicose speeches about how Iran threatens the world through its "meddling" in the Middle East. And, of course, about how the dumbass Palestinians have failed to accept the hand of Israel offered in peace.

That is what Tony's record demonstrates. Blinken has come a long way with Biden, all the way back to the Clinton Administration. And he he has always been there for the Jewish state. During the Obama Administration when relations with Israel were often strained, Blinken was the contact point for "Jewish leaders [differentiating] him from others in the White House at the time who weren't as sympathetic to Israel's position." Dennis Ross, often described as Israel's lawyer, praises him for having " an instinctive emotional attachment to Israel," referring to Blinken's frequently cited Jewish and refugee roots.

Other media reporting indicates that "Blinken was a top aide to Biden when the then-Sen­a­tor vot­ed to autho­rize the U.S. inva­sion of Iraq, and Blinken helped Biden devel­op a pro­pos­al to par­ti­tion Iraq into three sep­a­rate regions based on eth­nic and sec­tar­i­an iden­ti­ty. As deputy nation­al secu­ri­ty advis­er, Blinken sup­port­ed the dis­as­trous mil­i­tary inter­ven­tion in Libya in 2011, and in 2018 he helped launch Wes­t­Ex­ec Advi­sors, a ​'strate­gic advi­so­ry firm' that is secre­tive about its clients, along with oth­er Oba­ma admin­is­tra­tion alum­ni like Michèle Flournoy. Jonathan Guy­er writes in The Amer­i­can Prospect , ​'I learned that Blinken and Flournoy used their net­works to build a large client base at the inter­sec­tion of tech and defense. An Israeli sur­veil­lance start­up turned to them. So did a major U.S. defense com­pa­ny."

Beyond the intersection of government policy and personal profit exhibited by Blinken, the Washington Post in 2013 described Blinken as "[o]ne of the government's key players in drafting Syria policy" and he recalled that "This is a little bit personal to me, and any of us -- and I start with myself -- who had any responsibility for our Syria policy in the last administration has to acknowledge that we failed. Not for want of trying, but we failed." What Tony failed at was overthrowing Syria's legitimate government and turning the country over to the terrorist linked groups that he and Hillary and Obama were supporting.

The Democrats are particularly good at coming up with secretaries of state that one would like to forget, and that is saying quite a lot given the recent appointees by the Republicans. One recalls immediately the big-hearted Madeleine Albright, who found the killing of 500,000 Iraqi children by sanctions "worth it," or Hillary Clinton, who laughed out loud as she recalled the death of Libya ruler Muammar Ghaddafi by having a bayonet inserted up his anus. Clinton, who more than anyone launched the war against Africa's most developed nation, paraphrased Julius Caesar, who, upon returning from a rapid victory in Asia during the Rome's Second Civil war, described the event as "Veni, vidi, vici," in English "I came, I saw, I conquered." For the laughing Hillary it was "I came, I saw, he died!" The anarchy in Libya persists to this day and it included the payback killing of four U.S. Embassy employees in Benghazi in 2012, with Hillary and Susan Rice at the helm. It is generally believed that both Clinton and Rice might well have senior positions in the incoming Biden Administration.

But back to Blinken. Israel loved the way the Trump Administration showered favors upon it, nearly always without any quid pro quo . But for all his Dispensationalist fervor, salesmen like Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were little more than goys who had been seduced by the myth of Israel. They were, as Lenin would have described it, little more than "useful idiots," which is allegedly an expression that certain Israeli politicians have used to describe their passionate Christian Zionist supporters in the U.S. Now, with Blinken, the Israeli hard liners will have the "real thing," a convincing Jewish boy who fatuously describes an apartheid Israel as "the anchor and foundation for democracy in the region." Tony believes in the Zionist cause and will do the Jewish state's bidding with a malleable Joe Biden. And if Joe should go, there is always Kamala Harris, who is married to a Jewish lawyer lobbyist. Win-win either way.

Even though it's early days, Blinken joins a number of other American Jews already tagged for senior positions, including Alejandro Mayorkas, the nominee for Secretary of Homeland Security who is a Latino Jew. Ron Klain, Biden's Chief of Staff and Janet Yellen, his pick for Treasury Secretary, are also Jewish. The liberal Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports how "Having Jewish men and women in prominent government positions is so standard that it's barely even a talking point " before observing that "The fact that some of President-elect Joe Biden's top cabinet picks are Jewish should be a source of pride for the community 'These people are being chosen because they're incredibly competent, because they're incredibly talented, because they're incredibly experienced,' Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt told Haaretz in a phone interview." Indeed, if one believes Greenblatt pressure from the Israel Lobby, the media and billionaire donors as well as networking by the Jewish mafia inside the government itself have nothing to do with it.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .

Majority of One , says: December 1, 2020 at 5:22 am GMT • 58 minutes ago

Only good thing that could come out of this development, should the Harris-Biden selectees actually come into power is that this massive infusion of rabid Zionists into high levels in the Demo administration is so blatant that the awakeners will increase in numbers and in determination.

[Dec 01, 2020] I will henceforth refer to the MSM as the regime [change] media

Dec 01, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

BillWade , 30 November 2020 at 09:12 AM

I will henceforth refer to the MSM as the regime media or RM.

We reluctantly turned off Tucker last week. I felt bad about it as after watching him for a few years my wife slowly left behind her liberal north eastern views and came around to the right side of things. I'll thank him for that.

Free State of Florida

[Dec 01, 2020] Putting on a mask to drive in the car alone is like putting on a condom to go to bed alone and fall asleep.

COVID-19 fears turned the vast majority of Americans into compliant sheep unable to think.
Dec 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

America's New Normal - Silent, Obedient Consent - Zero Hedge

As we were driving to the park, I noticed a few bike riders on the side of the road wearing masks while biking. I thought to myself – WTF. That is completely idiotic. Then we began walking along the miles of trails. The park was moderately busy, but you passed someone every few minutes.

Sadly, I would estimate that 80% of the people we passed on the trails were masked and fearful of us unmasked hooligans. I can only imagine their thoughts as they wondered why we were risking their lives by being so careless.

I was disgusted by the lack of critical thought exhibited by these people. I might have understood if it was only people over 70 years old wearing the masks, but most of these people were young. They have virtually a zero risk of dying from this flu. They have virtually a zero risk of catching it on a walking trail at a State park. But, they obediently and silently do as they are told by their overlords.

I am saddened by how easily the totalitarians have been able to use fear, propaganda, lies and misinformation to turn the vast majority of Americans into compliant sheep. It is so clear to me that this engineered flu panic is nothing more than another chapter in the scheme to enslave global populations under the thumb of global elitist billionaires who want to control us and enrich themselves.


NotMyCircus 5 hours ago

Everyday I see people alone in their cars wearing masks - there are very few people in the world who can think critically and use reasoning to understand the actual risks for COVID-19.

99.63% of the people don't get it...

StubbleJumper 4 hours ago

Putting on a mask to drive in the car alone is like putting on a condom to go to bed alone and fall asleep.

DamnSheeple 1 hour ago

I just stare at them, honk and laugh.

Omega Point 4 hours ago

I agree, it really pisses me off seeing kids with masks. It is child abuse. Not only is it physically harming, it is doing psychological damage too. These kids will be afraid of their own shadow.

Anyway, I'm getting a new t-shirt made that displays two children with masks on and the title "child abuse". I should get some interesting comments.

diana_in_spain 4 hours ago remove link

Parents telling their children to wear masks outside , it's beyond belief. We are truly doomed

trailer park boys 4 hours ago

Masks don't prevent. Masks don't minimize spread. Masks are unhealthy for the wearer.

The whitecoat bureaucrats know this. It is not about science or health. It IS all about control.

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H.L. Mencken ay_arrow

JUST THE FACTS 4 hours ago

I dip my face diaper in cheap Vodka so its all wet looking

before entering the supermarket.

People get out of my way without being asked.

fnfcst 1 hour ago (Edited)

Right! If social distancing works, stay way the F* far away from me.

sentido kumon 4 hours ago

People have always been like this. They can not grasp philosophy, history, science or any other subject beyond eating and f'king. This whole covid hysteria has made that much obvious. Its likely that humans devolve and relinquish their brains since they have no use for it (other than eating and f'cking) and are just content being told.

Omega Point 4 hours ago

Perhaps the "elites" have a point. Too many useless eaters, breeders, and breathers.

[Dec 01, 2020] Biden's pick for budget director once championed funding social spending by MAKING LIBYA PAY for regime-change bombing campaign

Dec 01, 2020 | www.rt.com

Self-proclaimed President-elect Joe Biden has chosen a budget director, Neera Tanden, who once argued the US should ease funding shortages for left-wing social programs by making countries like Libya pay for being bombed. Biden's transition team on Monday announced its nominations for the six people selected to fill key economic roles in the incoming administration, led by former Federal Reserve Bank Chair Janet Yellen as treasury secretary. Tanden, a Hillary Clinton loyalist who currently heads the Center for American Progress, will be director of the Office of Management and Budget if Biden's media-declared election victory withstands legal challenges from President Donald Trump.

This crisis-tested team will help lift America out of our current economic downturn and build back better -- creating an economy that gives every single American a fair shot and an equal chance to get ahead. https://t.co/F6JMBHUgVx

-- Biden-Harris Presidential Transition (@Transition46) November 30, 2020

However, critics have already recalled an example of her unusual budgeting philosophy. In a 2011 email that was made public by WikiLeaks, Tanden said Libya should be made to pay for the bombing campaign that helped to topple Muammar Gaddafi's government, which would help balance the US domestic budget.

"We have a giant deficit, they have a lot of oil," Tanden said. "Most Americans would choose not to engage in the world because of that deficit."

If we want to continue to engage in the world, gestures like having oil-rich countries partially pay us back doesn't seem crazy to me.

[Dec 01, 2020] There is far, far, far more evidence that Democrats stole the 2020 election than there ever was of the kooky Russian collusion conspiracy theory hoax. by Andrea Widburg on American Thinker

Dec 01, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

One analysis shows that voting machines in Michigan systematically removed votes from Trump and handed them to Biden. I saw a rebuttal (which I cannot locate now) that purported to debunk this but did so by using a different scale on the X-axis, which I found inherently suspicious. 19. Over 100,000 Pennsylvania absentee ballots were returned a day after they were mailed out, on the day they were mailed out, or on the day before they were mailed out. 20. In all the contested areas, and at Dominion's website, Democrats have been systematically failing to create or have destroyed all data that could be used to demonstrate fraud. This creates the legal presumption that the data do, in fact, show fraud.

On behalf of all Trump voters, I say to the Democrats who are trying to gaslight us: don't spit in my face and tell me it's raining. gary.l.wagner 7 hours ago Hundreds of millions of Americans don't believe Biden won. Most of the world knows Biden lost. Half of them don't care that he didn't win. They want him to replace Trump and are willing to look the other way at unconstitutional, illegal, and fraudulent election results. lakjo65 8 hours ago Best analysis I have read, by far. Went to see Kennedy exhibit about the time Trump was elected and the similarities were OBVIOUS. You don't mess with the deep state (nothing INTELLIGENT about them- they are power THUGS). This is just what happened and if Trump does not get to the bottom of this, it will NEVER stop. kejjer 7 hours ago google --which countries use electronic voting machines. -- No 1st world country except the USA uses them. Minsky 10 hours ago 2004 election: -irregularities in vote counting procedures in Florida and Ohio -statistical 'discrepancies' between exit polls and voting results -strange behavior exhibited by Diebold voting machines used in the Ohio counties that gave Bush the election Question for all Republicans supporting Trump's post-election escapades: were you urging John Kerry not to concede, as he did the day after the election, due to all this strangeness? Were you upset when he did? Didn't think so.

[Dec 01, 2020] What's hilarious is that it looks like McKinsey gave Purdue advice between 2008-2010 on how to boost up opioid sales, when apparently both the client and firm knew that such a strategy would lead to overdoses, then came back in 2017 to essentially give Purdue a PR strategy on how to apologize for all the people they killed

Dec 01, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
> What's hilarious is that it looks like McKinsey gave Purdue advice between 2008-2010 on how to boost up opioid sales, when apparently both the client and firm knew that such a strategy would lead to overdoses, then came back in 2017 to essentially give Purdue a PR strategy on how to apologize for all the people they killed. This was when everyone and their mother knew that Purdue was facing an existential legal crisis. So you paid McKinsey to dig you a hole, then paid them to help you climb back out. <

[Dec 01, 2020] Just because Annegret Kramp [something] did not serve in military, it does not allow to conclude that she is not qualified to oversee Defense. However, nothing in her biography in Wikipedia suggests that she knows the difference between Clausewitz and Santa Klaus

Dec 01, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Piotr Berman , Nov 30 2020 15:40 utc | 112

Just because Annegret Kramp [something] did not serve in military, it does not allow to conclude that she is not qualified to oversee Defense. However, nothing in her biography in Wikipedia suggests that she knows the difference between Clausewitz and Santa Klaus.

Since high school, she toiled as an aparatchitsa in CDU in her home Saarland. She had OK looks, motherly demeanor (I guess, proud mother of three), nicely balanced moderate position and led CDU to a victory in that land. While working and nurturing, she got a master in law/politics.

This led Merkel to pick her as a Successorin. But on the federal arena she flopped and was demoted within a year, to the (apparently unimportant) post of defense minister. There she has some really interesting initiatives, like having some navy vessel plying seas of Indo-Pacific to promote freedom of people and navigation.

[Nov 30, 2020] Who is in charge in White House: CIA, FBI or both on power sharing agreement?

Trump should try to stop foreign wars the day after he was inaugurated--Caitlin Johnstone has a good grasp of the political situation in the US we had a choice between two warmongers. Biden will likely be worse overall on starting wars, but Trump isn't some innocent spring lamb being led to the slaughter.
Nov 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
oldhippie , Nov 13 2020 13:06 utc | 4

Trump was never in charge.

Biden will not be in charge.

Harris won't know what day it is.

Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago

@Supply and Demand
Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago
@Supply and Demand

Biden Derangement Syndrome

Do you mean Biden Dementia Syndrome?

That would be more accurate. Sleepy Joe (or Creepy Joe -- take your pick) will be the Boris Yeltsin of the Oval office. At least with old Boris, it was too much vodka -- and he could have quit the bottle. Sleepy Joe doesn't have that option.

[Nov 30, 2020] Europe as 'George Soros' gas chamber'

Nov 30, 2020 | www.rt.com

Hungarian cultural commissioner lights powder keg of controversy after describing Europe as 'George Soros' gas chamber'

Szilard Demeter, a ministerial commissioner and head of the Petofi Literary Museum in Budapest, used highly provocative language to describe Hungarian-American financier George Soros and his purported influence over EU policy.

"Europe is George Soros' gas chamber," the government-appointed cultural commissioner wrote in an op-ed. "Poison gas flows from the capsule of a multicultural open society, which is deadly to the European way of life."

He went on to characterize Soros as "the liberal Fuhrer," insisting that the businessman's "liber-aryan army deifies him more than did Hitler's own."


bristolwind shadow1369 19 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 02:07 PM

Now look at the US of Zimbabwe, banana republic with Mugabe level stolen election, fascist brown shirts (BLM, ANTIFA) beating people on the streets, burning places of worship and private business, eliminating Trump black supporters execution style. Plutocrats, authoritarian to the core, control Uniparty, MSM and social media forbidding any dissent. And, as even not much trusted, Gingerich said : IT IS VERBOTEN to mention one person name (Soros) even on treasonous fox news!! In the future USA will be longing to have fair and transparent election as people of Belarus or Venezuela. At this point Russia and Hungary are beacons of free world. Simple because they throw out former Nazi quislin
J_P_Franklin 23 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 10:36 AM
"Europe is George Soros' gas chamber," the government-appointed cultural commissioner wrote in an op-ed. " Poison gas flows from the capsule of a multicultural open society , which is deadly to the European way of life."
Cryptoid
Cyaxares_425bc 21 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 12:37 PM
What RT DID NOT mention, is that as a teenager during World War II, Soros aided the Gestapo in Budapest, by pointing out the homes & apartments of wealthy jews. And then he helped inventory the loot - as well as load the furniture, paintings, carpets, and heirlooms onto trucks. On CBS's program "60 minutes" he states that these 'were the best years of his life'.
Ohhho 22 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 11:49 AM
George Soros (aka Georgy Schwartz) is just a tool: he keeps the funds that the British-American elites channeled from he British budget into his "private" account in that famous "British Pound speculation"! Now for years he is financing all kind of covert and not so covert operations by MI6 and CIA without any control or supervision from the state: nice!
EnkisDaughter 22 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 11:32 AM
Gyorgy Schwartz (his real name) and his father (Theodore Schwartz ) made money by selling their own people (Soros is Jewish by birth) to the Nazis; these people then went to the concentration camps. The Hungarians were allies of the Nazis and the Schwartz family certainly made money from them.
CA_Sue 16 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 04:57 PM
I think the Hungarian commissioner had every right to say what he did. Soros hides behind his NGO's and other organizations and has funded mayhem and horrible violence in America. If Poland and Hungary want to protect their culture, so be it, it's THEIRS to protect.
Bianca882008 21 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 11:57 AM
And how creepy is it that EU conditions its COVID aid! So if these two countries do not pass legislation on transgender rights, and few other gender-choice related issues, they are deprived if aid in the middle of pandemic! That is militant liberalism. This is not about rights, it is about SUPREMACY. It is to prove that liberal agenda can shove anything down a nation's throat -- when a country is weak and needs money. It is about bringing to power those that will champion the new "values". And kick out of power the conservatives, the nationalist old guard. There us a method to this militant Soros madness. Perfect name -- liber-aryans!
veneziano49454 20 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 01:23 PM
I think that Hungary People has many reasons. Mr Open Society has ruined the World and again he is ruining the USA. He is behind the Dominion Voting through his UK friend CEO of Smartmatic Software. He is continuing to ruine the Italy after the Italian currency speculation in the 1992. We Italians hate him. He is continuing to invade the Italy by immigrants. Through the ONG paid from Open Society. And now warning american people. Because he is thinking to a Monetary war against the USD. He want create a Global Currency. The Great Reset begin with fraud against the USA President. This is an obstacle to eliminate.
HandyGlock17 20 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 12:52 PM
Bravo Hungary, you are putting principles OVER filthy profit. You love your nation, people, and culture more than dirty money. You put all other countries who are ruled by traitors to shame.
rolvik 22 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 11:29 AM
"Poison gas flows from the capsule of a multicultural open society, which is deadly to the European way of life." this is 100% correct. EU puppets should arrest that criminal terrorist soros . only Hungary and Poland dare to speak. "Israeli Embassy in Budapest expressed similar outrage." is soros citizen of Israel?? of not, what should Israel have to have with soros?? beside they are complete terrorist criminal country, adn they are last to give anybody morale lessons . "There is no place for connecting the worst crime in human history, or its perpetrators, to any contemporary debate, no matter how essential," the Israeli diplomatic mission wrote in a tweet. that is biggest lie in history, and even if that lie is true it is definitely not biggest crime. and soros crime is way bigger then Hitler's. terrorist soros sponsor genocide of whole European continent, and criminals including Israel support that
mumbojumbo272 22 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 11:25 AM
Open society, two nice words hiding horrible goals . Just like dissecting humanbeings in the whomb of women under terms like: pro-choice and other terms eluding the true facts .
Robin Olsen 21 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 12:36 PM
The Jewish response is indeed curious seeing as though Soros built his fortune by stealing the 'left behind' wealth of deported Jews during WW2 while hiding out posing as a Nazi. One could almost define that as a act of genocidal treason right? But Hungry and Poland are funny...big problem with E.U and Soros but no problems accepting thousands of Soros supporting American troops to fight off 'the Russian bogey man' . Flip flopping around like a Tuna caught out of the water.
Dirk45 18 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 03:58 PM
Mr Demeter is referring to the deliberate liberal policy of promoting mass immigration from the Third World, and thereafter using incessant indoctrination and legal coercion to promote mass integration. The aim of Mr Soros , the EU, and Western governments can only be to destroy the racial and consequently cultural identity of the entire native population of Europe. Relating this to the extermination of millions of Jews is therefore entirely appropriate, and should in no way be considered as somehow devaluing or depreciating it. To contrast the two situations is pointless. The fate suffered by millions of Jews in Nazi camps was immediate and brutal; the fate suffered by hundreds of millions of Europeans spread across an entire continent from the Urals to the Atlantic is less so, but the intention of the perpetrators in both cases is identical.
SheepNotHuman 12 hours ago 30 Nov, 2020 01:06 AM
George Soros runs America through his many fake politicians, DA, Judges, NGO's funded by him. Actually he represents the Rothchild house for the Royals Global Cartel. No surprise that Israel cover for him being the Rothchild is father of Israel. They are the destroyers of humanity who use the MSM that they own to manufacture consent in your mind. Lone wolf, hear your calling and do your duty for humanity.
Morsi_X 1 day ago 29 Nov, 2020 12:10 PM
Poison gas flows from the capsule of a multicultural open society, which is deadly to the European way of life." multiculturalism and over population is a hindering within the United States and stopping these younger progressives from getting some of their socialist policies through because they can't look around and grasp that socialism doesn't work with an eternal population that is approaching (or maybe already there) 350 million then onto 400 million with a bunch of multi cultural people, like Armenians which never seen an American flag in their lives, along with a bunch of other non-indigenous and non-founding immigrants but they constantly yelling in the street and can't even pass a civics class.
sukmiwangyak 23 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 01:44 PM
Soros is far more evil than Hiltler, it's not even close by a long shot. For Israel to defend Soros is like Judas running a trust fund. I always wondered why didn't Israel take action against Soros who confessed he helped to Nazi's to catch Jews, then he would steal their wealth; he said " it was his best memory's" ! Hitler wasn't as bad as the Bushes, or the Clintons, he knew the Jews was like wild animals that's the reason he tried to give them to the USA or other states, but they choice to turn their backs on them. Even if we hung Soros today, he still would've gotten away with so much. Just like Hillary he is both Mossad & CIA, protected by the Jesuits. We need to first condemn the color revolutions which is paid for with the " Open Society Foundation " Secondly we need to close all secrete foundations and make them accountable to the Rule of Law. Thirdly lets exterminate people like Soros's, Rockefeller's, Rothschild's, Clinton's, Biden's, Bush's from this world for mankind's sake. Lastly we need more people like Szilard Demeter.
Lloyd Hart 16 hours ago 29 Nov, 2020 08:55 PM
Soros was a member of the SS during the war & still is. He only pretends to be liberal but his immigrant policies have more to do with breaking unions with cheap migrant and insecure labour. So he is still a nazi in my book. Crushing uncooperative poorer nation's currencies is his institutional nazism.

[Nov 30, 2020] Cecily Strong complete remarks at 2015 White House Correspondents' Dinner (C-SPAN) - YouTube

1:25 "They have a massage on thus trains. All it take is to sit in from of Joe Biden"
Nov 30, 2020 | www.youtube.com


LynxChan
, 5 years ago

It's just delightful to see how the room HATES being made fun of. They're also petrified of anything even remotely edgy. You hear less "ohhhs" at a middle school assembly. Blitzer in particular seems congenitally unable to take a joke.


rmoulton rmoulton
, 4 years ago

Man she was ruthless. It wasn't even mostly about making people laugh, it was about making them feel ashamed.

John Hershey , 1 year ago

Back when a President could take a joke...


Zane Gregory
, 4 years ago

The smartest comedians are the ones that can rip on anyone because they love them, the best comedians are the ones that don't let audience reaction affect their game. Quick witted, fast paced, she had one of the best sets out of all the comedians who have done this dinner.


Pseudonymous
, 4 years ago

She's so brave! Not many comedians/speakers challenge the president to his face

Janet Mainor , 1 year ago

2015: Joking about Biden being too handsy. 2019: Accusing Biden of being too handsy


Bri Blackwell
, 5 years ago

I can feel the awkward tension in that room because everyone knows what she's saying is true 😂


Anders Friis Tolstrup
, 4 years ago

"All good jokes contains truth" - J. Cole

Jordi Vanderwaal , 1 year ago

The jokes were great, specially the "what to do with my body" and those related to race & police, but that Joe Biden joke is more relevant in 2019 than ever. XD


YTFlove4ever
, 1 year ago

That Joe Biden joke proves everything

[Nov 30, 2020] Conan O'Brien remarks at 2013 White House Correspondents' Dinner (C-SPAN) - YouTube

"Please tell Biden there is no extra tickets"
Nov 30, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Chad Clifford
, 4 years ago

"My prior experience has showed me how these dinners work, if the president laughs, everyone laughs, and if the fox news table laughs, a little girl just fell off her bike" - lmao. I still laugh about this line at least once of week.


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[Nov 30, 2020] Human rights and color revolutions

Nov 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Nov 30 2020 0:20 utc | 60

Human Rights are not intrinsic. They are a post-war invention (1948) by the UN, something created so everybody could sleep better at night (or be invaded, if you're a fan of post-Cold War History).


Clueless Joe , Nov 30 2020 1:02 utc | 70

Natural rights are just as much the figment of some people's imagination as human rights.
None of these have any existence or any objective, scientific, physical basis, they are just intellectual notions, like money, gods and other fancy ideas. The majority of people might agree on them from time to time, but they surely aren't eternal, and any system based on these has a limited lifespan.

Don Bacon , Nov 30 2020 3:54 utc | 81

@ CJ 70
Natural rights are just as much the figment of some people's imagination as human rights.

No. We all have the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Those rights are codified by the UN in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights .
...included...

Article I - All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2 - Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3 - Everyone has the right to life, liberty and the security of person... here

[Nov 29, 2020] Derek (Lid on Likes) (#Kraken Emeritus) on Twitter- -8-So easy to set up headfakes when the media is committed to attacking e

Nov 29, 2020 | twitter.com

17/ (watching for the "ear-reddening move") Quote Tweet Techno Fog @Techno_Fog · Nov 25 Weissmann protests b/c the Flynn case implicates the corrupt Special Counsel. They didn't prosecute Flynn b/c they thought he was guilty (FBI agents didn't think Flynn lied).

Team Mueller went after Flynn so they could build an obstruction case against Trump. Corrupt motive. twitter.com/AWeissmann_/st

[Nov 28, 2020] Interesting view of Trump historical role and his legacy

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

Erebus , says: Next New Comment November 13, 2020 at 4:46 am GMT • 15.1 days ago

@Incitatus e in the open. The choice will be made in clear daylight for all to see, and ipso facto for all to participate.

In my book, all of above are indisputable "goods" that dwarf whatever failings may exercise his detractors. He may have failed to drain the swamp, but he mapped its breadth and showed that its shores went far beyond Washington, that its depths remain unfathomed, and exposed its flora and fauna as both more vile and more ubiquitous than anyone would normally think possible in an "open democracy".

That he achieved this almost entirely alone in the face a full court press of alligators from every quarter marks his presidency as an unusually effective one. In fact, from my vantage point as a non-American he's undoubtedly the most extraordinary American president in living memory.

AnonFromTN , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:12 pm GMT • 16.3 days ago
@Incitatus > In my view, the greatest Trump accomplishment is that in four years he did not start a single war. Now, let's compare that to Obama/Biden accomplishments: destroyed Libya, destroyed Ukraine, and illegally sent troops to Syria. The difference is stark.

I know that Biden was not senile back then, just corrupt (e.g., the Ukrainian saga with his junky son dishonorably discharged from the US military getting ~$50,000 a month at Burisma). So, out of two turds I'd choose the least smelly one. Massive electoral fraud of Biden puppet masters is a cherry on the cake.

BTW, the bulk of COVID deaths happened in Dem-controlled cities. Not to mention riots by Antifa/BLM bandits, which Dems openly approved of.

Incitatus , says: Next New Comment November 12, 2020 at 1:54 am GMT • 16.2 days ago
@AnonFromTN ved of."

Really? Kindly cite such riots and Dems approval. Spare no words. Be specific.

Have you followed Kyle Rittenhouse, the Kenosha Wisconsin 17-yr old shooter? Want-to-be vigilante protecting property he didn't own? With an illegal weapon (bought by a 18 year-old Wisconsin friend now charged with a felony)? Kyle's life is ruined. His friend's life is ruined. Any thoughts? What were these kids thinking? Any word from the 'endangered property' owners'? Don't think so.

"I know that Biden was not senile back then"

Good for you. No fondness for Biden. But tell us why Trump was so proud scoring "Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV" on the Montréal Cognitive Assessment (dementia) test. Why was he being tested?

AnonFromTN , says: Next New Comment November 12, 2020 at 5:59 pm GMT • 15.6 days ago
@Incitatus redemption. They damaged the US a lot more than Bin Laden or Saddam could even dream of. A lot of people in the US and all over the world recognized the true colors of the US voting system: one of the most fraudulent systems in existence. FYI, I mean honest people, not bought and paid for politicians in imperial vassals.

As to riots, your hot air does not even deserve an answer. Suffice it to say that, if we take MSM reports and statements by Dem politicians at face value, in many Dem-controlled cities after "largely peaceful protests" hundreds of stores were vandalized and looted, many burned, and quite a few people murdered (including black people, like that guy in St Louis). If you believe that, or believe that the elections in 2020 were honest and fair, I have a bridge to sell you.

AnonFromTN , says: Next New Comment November 21, 2020 at 3:32 am GMT • 7.2 days ago
@Incitatus "inadvertently" lost; Dominion machines were programmed to switch votes from Trump to Biden.

In a way, it's all for the best. Finally, many Americans are waking up to the reality that 95% of the rest of the world knew before: American election system is a swindle. Most likely, Alzheimer-in-Chief will be the next president. Every nation has the government it deserves (this saying should be proclaimed rabidly anti-American by our elites).

As to Covid, the US has the worst record in the world thanks to concerted efforts of Federal Government, including staffed shirt Fauci (Biden supporter, BTW), and Dem governors and mayors, who instituted restrictions that damaged the economy, but not the virus.

Also, FL-2000 was just as fraudulent as the whole election in 2020.

[Nov 28, 2020] Corn Syrup vs Soy, by Eric Striker

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

... ... ...

Every 2020 issue polarizes through this prism.

On the issue of voter fraud, the right has sullied real concerns with ballot legitimacy in highly mismanaged black cities with Bircherist bufoonery. The last of the MAGA faithful -- Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, Q-Anon, Mike Cernovich, Dinesh D'Souza, Nick Fuentes, Ali Alexander, One America News, and the Zionist opportunists at Newsmax -- have been trying to cancel more sensible right-wing populists like Tucker Carlson, Ryan Gidursky, Pedro Gonzalez and others for expressing skepticism about some of the Trump campaign's narratives on the election.

Like him or not, Tucker is a serious political commentator that has tried and failed to provide coherence and principles to Trumpism for the last four years. When Tucker asked Sidney Powell for evidence regarding her claim that Castro, Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro and the Chinese Communist Party stole millions of votes from Trump in an international Marxist coup, he was subjected to insults, boycotts and unhinged shrieking in response. "THANK YOU SEAN HANNITY FOR HOLDING THE LINE. THANK YOU TUCKER FOR THROWING US UNDER THE BUS," wrote Nick Fuentes.

Tucker was vindicated when Trump's team abruptly severed ties with Powell and shelved her circus act. But that hasn't stopped online Trumpistanis from speculating that Tucker's red bracelet is a sign that he is a secret kabbalah practitioner or that he's been a double agent for the satanic pedophile cartel led by Tom Hanks put in place just for this moment. For Jews concerned that Tucker has been promoting the potent combination of nationalism and economic populism to deplorables since 2016, it is a welcome amusement to see him being sacrificed on the alter of Orange Man Good and traded in for a harmless lapdog like Hannity.

30 of 31 voter fraud lawsuits filed by Team Trump have been tossed. The whole thing is starting to look like a Birther-style publicity stunt to help Trump monetize his following after January. The most recent defeat , a lawsuit demanding 7,000,000 votes be invalidated in Pennsylvania, did not provide any compelling evidence for fraud or malfeasance.

Four years ago, Bernie expressed skepticism about mass immigration while Trump's original campaign hinted at a public health care option and a war against Wall Street. These real world issues impact real world people, and it allowed for a cross-front alliance of ordinary citizens against the elite. The two candidates traded disenfranchised and largely white working class voters throughout the primary, then the general.

But now there are actors on both sides trying to drag things back to personalities, political tribalism and inanity. The COVID issue has drawn out the petty tyrants on the left but also the UN-world-government conspiracy theorists of the right, with actual state relief for desperate working people suffering from the lockdown being drowned out.

For Jewish gatekeepers of the phony right like Ezra Levant , "The Great Reset" is much more palatable and less dangerous than the real issue of the Great Replacement. Former Never Trumper Mark Levin has worked with Sean Hannity to scrub 2020 Trumpism of its anti-establishment and anti-globalist soul to try and transform it into another Tea Party style Reaganite collection point for false consciousness held together by fumes of Trump's personality cult.

There is a silver lining. As niches suffering from the two types of TDS -- Trump Derangement Syndrome and Trump Delusion Syndrome -- duke it out, the liberal kleptocracy is still having trouble restoring "normalcy."

The Biden Democrats are eager to betray and start purging the Bernie wing of their party on economic and foreign policy matters. The GOP, whose establishment has no organic support and never will, has decided to fake it until they make it and pretend like Trump was never born.

This forced reboot is bound to meet challenges in an era of high unemployment and social chaos. People are sick of voting for a "lesser of two evils."

There is lots of talk on the left and right about starting new parties to challenge the Wall Street uniparty. The Movement for a People's Party , an endeavor that has recruited big names like Jimmy Dore and Cornell West, is looking to establish itself and begin attacking the Democratic party from the left.

Meanwhile, right-populists who aren't hung up on Trump are beginning to talk of an "America First Party." The National Justice Party, a political construct that isn't afraid to appeal to white workers or transcend traditional ideas of left and right, is also starting to gain momentum.

In the battle of corn syrup vs soy, of stupid vs gay, we the people deserve better. The populi in populist can be described as being part of the radical center: left on economics and right on social issues. A white worker should not have to vote for the anti-white Democrats just to have a shot at affordable health care, nor should a rural family have to vote for the Paul Singer funded Zionist GOP in hopes of being treated with dignity. A grounded and united movement that explicitly rejects both parties and can obtain what we want must arise from the ashes of back-stabbed Trumpists and Bernie fans.

AnonStarter , says: November 24, 2020 at 5:43 am GMT • 4.6 days ago

The populi in populist can be described as being part of the radical center: left on economics and right on social issues. A white worker should not have to vote for the anti-white Democrats just to have a shot at affordable health care, nor should a rural family have to vote for the Paul Singer funded Zionist GOP in hopes of being treated with dignity. A grounded and united movement that explicitly rejects both parties and can obtain what we want must arise from the ashes of back-stabbed Trumpists and Bernie fans.

Sounds good, Mr. Striker.

May it come to fruition.

nsa , says: November 24, 2020 at 6:16 am GMT • 4.6 days ago

The median wage in the USA in 2019 was $34,000 / year. If Trumpstein had done even one tiny little, teensy weensy, itsy bitsy thing for the under $34k working poor .he would have easily retained enough votes to keep his job. Instead, his domestic policy goals centered around taking basic health insurance away from the working poor (even during a pandemic), while giving billions away to his wall street pals, his relatives, giant corporations, and of course his yid sponsors. Example: Fed Ex paid zero income tax in 2017, 2018, 2019. Let's see how long a modern society can function when the top 0.1% are worth more than the bottom 80%.

[Nov 28, 2020] The populi in populist can be described as being part of the radical center: left on economics and right on social issues

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

animalogic , says: November 24, 2020 at 9:12 am GMT • 4.5 days ago

@AnonStarter

"The populi in populist can be described as being part of the radical center: left on economics and right on social issues. "
Indeed -- it does sound good.

[Nov 28, 2020] What happened to Tucker Carlson's philosophy of kindness towards one another?

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

Watching the Dying Light , says: November 24, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

You seem quite convinced that it was Tucker Carlson's version of events that was true concerning this phone call to Sidney Powell. You know she disputes this version. Also I read that Carlson did not make the call himself, but rather had a staffer do it.

One might be a little suspicious that perhaps a staffer put a little too much effort into getting Ms. Powell to appear on the show, and perhaps embellished or 'interpreted' the phone call out of concern for their job.

One might also consider it a bit petty and unprofessional to immediately report a rude phone call on the Carlson news program, and not once but twice.

Are we to believe that Sidney Powell is the only source who has ever been rude on a phone call with a staffer from the news media? Is it good journalism to publicly attack potential sources because they said no the first time you asked?

In my opinion it seems a bit hard to believe that Ms. Powell had a meltdown with either Carlson or a staffer on a phone call. She seems much more the type to just politely say goodbye and hang up.

But let's assume that she did have a meltdown. Given the circumstances and time crunch she's under, wouldn't a reasonable person assume she was acting badly because of stress and she probably didn't mean it?

Carlson couldn't wait longer than the next morning before he planned to publicly shame her for it? And in the middle of what must be, for her, the biggest and most important thing she's ever done?

What happened to Tucker Carlson's philosophy of kindness towards one another? And do you put any stock in the fact that so many people who watch (or watched) Tucker Carlson on a regular basis were genuinely shocked by what he did? I know I was.

Everything about this seems very strange. If a normally reasonable person like Powell made crazy sounding claims, why respond with such hostility? Does anybody remember the guy who built his own rocket so he could prove the Earth was flat? All we had to do was wait.

And as for these voting machine companies having ties to Venezuela in the past, well that's true. None other than Lou Dobbs on CNN reported this and the whole thing ended up in congressional hearings iirc.

I have no opinion about Sidney Powell's claims. She seems respectable enough to withhold judgement until she shows us what she's got. And if even a part of what she claims is true, I for one will be pretty concerned.

[Nov 28, 2020] Washington Is Exhausted Swamp Gears Up For Post-Trump Power Orgy

Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Washington elites are breathing a sigh of relief, as power players on both sides of the aisle gear up for 'business as usual' following a four-year disruption in swamp-activities - thanks to one Donald J. Trump, whose perhaps prematurely anticipated departure from the Oval Office has the DC establishment licking their chops.

... Shoving the Uniparty's collective excitement in our plebeian faces, Roberts writes in. full. stops. " Washington is exhausted. Washington is optimistic. Washington is desperate for change. The aristocracy of this city is ready to move on, daring to hope that the last four years was a fever that finally broke and life can get back to normal."

... I fondly remember Senator [Daniel] Inouye and Senator McCain all getting into these wonderful debates about various issues on the environment and on the economy," says Marshall. "It was very entertaining to watch. And in the end, they would lift their glass, give each other a toast, a smile, a great laugh and carry on ."

[Nov 28, 2020] Now the problems with 2020 election got into rap ;-)

Nov 28, 2020 | twitter.com



Epstein's Sheet @johnpecco1 55m
#BidenCheated #BidenCheated2020 #BidenCheats The Devil went down to Georgia, looking for a Election to steal, He was in a bind, because Creepy @JoeBiden was WAY Fkn behind 2 50 61
55m Rebecca Arippol @rebecca_arippol 2h
It took a while but finally judges are beginning to see the inevitable truth: #BidenCheated

[Nov 28, 2020] Republican cucks and Trump lawsuits

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

Peter D. Bredon , says: November 24, 2020 at 7:46 am GMT • 4.5 days ago

"30 of 31 voter fraud lawsuits filed by Team Trump have been tossed."

Well, that settles it then. Spoken like a true country club Republican cuck.

[Nov 28, 2020] The Romans had the Cataline Conspiracy, and we have the Coomer Conspiracy.

Nov 28, 2020 | voxday.blogspot.com

My Shield Is Disgust November 26, 2020 9:24 AM

The Romans had the Cataline Conspiracy, and we have the Coomer Conspiracy. I hope it's as funny in 2000 years as it is now.

Daniele Grech Pereira November 26, 2020 9:26 AM

Call me juvenile, but "Eric Coomer"? This can't be real.

[Nov 28, 2020] COVID-19 is such a super clever virus; I suspect that in it very small heart this virus is a Democrat

It attacks people who want to vote in person, but never those who go shopping or particulate in Biden victoryfectivities.
Nov 28, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Peter Bills
, 2 months ago (edited)

The virus is especially deadly at schools and churches. It hasn't figured out Home Depot and Walmart yet.


Jules Brice
, 2 months ago

It's such a polite virus. Obviously a special design of upper crust investors and scientists of the first degree.

This virus will try to attack you as you walk into a restaurant and through it - so take all available precautions. After you are seated and receive your menu, it does a courtly deep bow, kisses it's fingers towards the ladies, then clicks it's heels smartly, and turns away. What a marvel!

[Nov 28, 2020] Hmmmmm remember that referral to Barr about whether Joe Biden should've declared himself as an agent of the CCP under FARA?

Notable quotes:
"... The GSA letter forces Biden to disclose conflicts of interest with himself and his team to "foreign nationals, and other foreign agents..." ..."
Nov 28, 2020 | twitter.com
Derek (Lid on Likes) (#Kraken Emeritus) @PereGrimmer Nov 24
FYI Anons --

The GSA letter forces Biden to disclose conflicts of interest with himself and his team to "foreign nationals, and other foreign agents..."

https://congress.gov/116/plaws/publ121/PLAW-116publ121.pdf

[Nov 28, 2020] Joe Biden went from stealing someone's wife, to stealing speeches, to stealing money, to stealing an election. He has really grown as a politician.

Nov 28, 2020 | twitter.com
@mbracemoore 21h
Joe Biden went from stealing someone's wife, to stealing speeches, to stealing money, to stealing an election. He has really grown as a politician.

[Nov 28, 2020] The people that voted for Biden won't regret a thing

Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Wodan 1785 USA , 15 hours ago

The people that voted for Biden won't regret a thing. They're not real

steelframe7 , 15 hours ago

Yep. Many already dead.

[Nov 28, 2020] Deep state as organization that executes strategic policies arbitrarily decided by ruling elite Interests actually created the USA Inc., and its institutions embodiments of no enforcement of no obligation of ruling elite to the people while peddling myth of popular legitimacy of ruling elite autocratic power.

Nov 28, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Kalen , Nov 26, 2020 9:51 PM

Deep state as organization that executes strategic policies arbitrarily decided by ruling elite Interests actually created the USA Inc., and its institutions embodiments of no enforcement of no obligation of ruling elite to the people while peddling myth of popular legitimacy of ruling elite autocratic power. And embodied in American psyche Obligation to meaningless voting in systemically rigged elections.

Heailed as revolutionary and enlightened Liberal concept political liberty of supposedly allowing people to decide who rules them by voting turned immediately in democratic mockery and nightmare as in US independent from power elites Election candidates were threatened or killed, armed local militia or local power mafia were guarding polling stations checking every vote beating up every voter who voted wrongly, or was Indian or freed black and destroying ballots before and after voting, of course charging voter with poll tax.

American, progressive liberal politics of freedom was from the beginning nothing but a veneer covering up system of oligarchic privileges and governance by Anglo American elites, where all political agendas and politicians are vetted by Deep state.

JFK or Nixon, like Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump etc., all of them faithfully executed policies of ruling elites as far as strategic attacks on long term interests of working people and assurance of deep state expansion of stringent control, surveillance and growth of wealth of financial ruling elite was concerned.

if those vetted politicians attempted to sabotage or by negligence threatened effectiveness of those strategic policy guidelines they were harshly dealt with including threats of assassination or removal from office under variety of public cover stories, leaks, investigations or rumors or since 1980s NGOs color revolutions that came finally to US.

There can be no legitimate moral position defending any of them from the point of view of people who work for living as their policies were policies that strategically served oligarchic ruling elites not we the people who have unalienable right to self governance and set priorities that includes total elimination FED, MIC political power , eliminatIon of power of Wall Street, SV in determining socioeconomic policies, eliminate power of near monopolies in media, medical and food industry, establishment of universal healthcare and pension funds run locally which takes away financial burden from families of sick and from small business, and stopping mass surveillance and to elevate power of local self governance deciding about fate of local community and economy by the people directly impacted by It.

COVID is a blatant example of Trump's public emasculation as POTUS by annoyed Deep State as his open air incoherence on COVID was a direct result of deep state agents' threats as he expressed his reasonable doubt about phony pandemic threat only to sharply reverse his position toward delusional policies of fear mongering and preprogrammed destruction of people's economy while bailing out and nurturing Wall Street Chieftains and SV parasites.

We know that Trump was not brainwashed to believe that COVID was ever existential threat to humanity but still he "reacted" absurdly peddling Deep State nonsense

Making Trump a unprecedented villain by MSM was primarily Deep State operation aimed to sow division and discourse on irrelevant subjects while leaving unprecedented attack on US population by elites beyond reproach. Trump fit perfectly into Deep State plans, and the fact that he is still alive proves it.

Obama did the same in 2008+ crisis taking back his criticism of record bonuses paid to executives of bailout by taxpayers big banks. Later he avoided pissing off deep State by reopening Guantanamo, continuing old wars and creating new ones, giving away cool $trillion to MIC for revamping of nukes, reneging on Medicare for all Healthcare and Public Option health Insurance to name few corrections to Obama's electoral agenda made by overall friendly to him Deep State.

No single one is better than the rest of them stooges of oligarchy, who one way or another want up enslaved or dead.

Kalen , Nov 27, 2020 6:49 PM Reply to Dave Patterson

Nobody expected Trump to cure cancer. That is not his failure. What I am talking about is systemic failure of all political and state institutions like POTUS or Congress as they become puppets of Deep State.

As any President Trump was powerless to do things he promised in his campaign but "powerful" to do what ruling elite wanted him to do. He did not refuse as he would have been severely punished.

Any POTUS is simply a Deep State puppet playing in political puppet show for infantilized electorate.

Not electing vetted puppets of Deep State but rejection of entire system, destruction of American imperial institutions of power and oligarchy who run them is the first step to effectively ending American democratic charade.

Henry , Nov 26, 2020 9:13 PM Reply to Lost in a dark wood

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

US media Corporations benefited greatly from Trump as president. $1.8 trillions in tax cut and more recently $5 trillions in bailouts. Trump has overseen the largest upward transfer of wealth in world history

John Ervin , Nov 27, 2020 5:16 AM Reply to Henry

"Trump has overseen the largest upward transfer of wealth in world history."

Thank you. Surely it's been said before, but that little sacred factoid seems to have been ignored recently, apparently swamped by the vast online outpouring of support for the Orange One as being unduly put-upon.


Joerg
, Nov 26, 2020 7:18 PM

Please watch: "HOW TRUMP WINS" – http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=220872
(direct upload from Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/embed/F18PaMzwG81I/ )

You can think of Brother Nathanael what you want. But he makes several interesting points:
He says that – relating especially to Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin – " these state legislators have their OWN right to appoint their OWN slate of electors INSTEAD of the electors selected to award Biden the win "

And: " If the US House rejects Pence's choice it goes to a House vote on January 6th . Each state gets only one vote. 31 state have a Republican majority in the House – 19 states have Democratic majority ".

Brother Nathanael also gives a very good reason, why Sidney Powell simply couldn't be part of the Trump legal team.
Also as Trump now pardoned Michael Flynn. He did so, because his because the judicial system in the US is as corrupted as in my country and a lot of other countries. And it is not sure that Flynn gets acquitted under a Biden-regime. So it was important that Sidney Powell, attorney of Michael Flynn, did not also work for the president at the same time.


richard
, Nov 26, 2020 7:04 PM

Even if BIden wins they have a shed load of problems ahead. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/statehouse-elections-2020-434108

Jill , Nov 26, 2020 6:53 PM

I am not sure what is going on in the US. It is clear there was massive election fraud in favor of Biden. I do not think Biden won this election. On the other hand, I am not willing to say that Trump isn't in on the whole thing. I need to see a lot more evidence before I credit a president that has committed multiple war crimes, is a good friend of Jeff Epstein and the Clintons and has appointed one deep state swamp monster after another to run his cabinet and departments. And did I mention what he has done to our economy and will do to our people with Operation Warp Speed? A person who has done those things would easily collaborate w/Biden.

My feeling is that things have gotten out of control of this deep state operation. People are really angry. Notice that it is ordinary people who have come forward with the election fraud affidavits. For this, they have been threaten as have their children. These are not powerful people with protection. These are people of great courage who are standing up saying, ENOUGH!

I don't know what side Sidney Powell is truly on as she accuses all of America's favorite nations to go to war with of interfering in our election. However, last night she reported that Mort and ggoogle have given out nearly as much money to all levels of this election to rig it for Biden. That is one of the most important revelations I have seen in this whole mess. They spread around nearly as much money as USG itself to fix the election. Of course the tech companies have censored, censored and censored again. Is this for really for ruining Trump? I don't know. It will certainly create mass chaos and likely violence. That chaos serves the NWO.

I don't know what the real plan is. I do feel that the people who made this plan are losing control over where things are going. I hope that is what is happening with all my heart.

Sgt Oddball , Nov 27, 2020 12:28 AM Reply to Jill

In Kabuki theatre there is a term called 'Mie', meaning a summative gesture/pose evocative of a state of extreme/intense emotion – This, sadly, is how the various legal challenges seem to me right now – Although I wish Rudy, Jenna, Sidney and the rest, *All Power* to their collective elbows, since this is all *Clearly* an American constitutional crisis and High Felony, not to mention some *Truly* Robert Mugabe-level shit in the making, I'm begining to wonder just what the *Fuck* they think they're actually playing at (Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, China?! – *SERIOUSLY*?!?!!)

- Oh well, *Ho-Hum*, Davostani's got their hard-on for USA Civil War 2.0(tm), and *Both* teams doing their bit, as usual, I guess

[Nov 28, 2020] Hunter Biden won the election for his dad so he did good. His sex stories added the necessary spice

Nov 28, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

mcohen , 27 November 2020 at 04:53 PM

hunter Biden won the election for his dad so he did good.His sex stories added the necessary spice.It solved the problem which was the following.....Joe Biden cannot stand because he does not stand for anything.Sex sells.especially $21000 worth.

[Nov 28, 2020] Trump Admin Removes Globalists and Warhawks from Defense Policy Board including Dopey Madeleine Albright

Nov 28, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Nov 27, 2020

Hmm . . . this doesn't look much like a person in the process of "conceding":

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/trump-admin-removes-globalists-warhawks-defense-policy-board-dopey-madeleine-albright/

Trump Admin Removes Globalists and Warhawks from Defense Policy Board and Dopey Madeleine Albright
By Jim Hoft
Nov 26, 2020
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Policy_Board_Advisory_Committee

The Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee, also referred to as the Defense Policy Board (DPBAC or DPB), is a federal advisory committee to the United States Department of Defense. . . .

On 25 November 2020, the Trump administration removed senior defense policy experts such as Henry Kissinger, Madeleine Albright and Jane Harman from the board, and replaced them with Anthony Tata, Kash Patel and Ezra Cohen-Watnick.

--

It looks more like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labours_of_Hercules#Fifth:_Augean_stables

The fifth labour was to clean the stables of King Augeas. This assignment was intended to be both humiliating and impossible, since these divine livestock were immortal, and had produced an enormous quantity of dung. The Augean stables had not been cleaned in over 30 years, and over 1,000 cattle lived there. However, Heracles succeeded by rerouting the rivers Alpheus and Peneus to wash out the filth.

[Nov 28, 2020] U.S. Election 'Success' And Hey Presto 'Russian Interference' Disappears

Nov 28, 2020 | www.strategic-culture.org

The United States' election victory of Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden has yet to be officially confirmed. That requires the 500-plus Electoral College comprising the 50 federal states to cast the final vote when the constitutional body meets on December 14. Biden holds a commanding lead of over 300 delegates in the Electoral College, more than 70 above Donald Trump's quota and decisively more than the 270 threshold required for election to the White House.

Nonetheless, already one thing is indisputably clear. Biden's nominal victory from the popular vote tallies is glaring proof that Russia did not interfere in the American presidential ballot. Not in 2020. And not, we may discern, in 2016, nor in any other election. Yet the silence in US media over this obvious conclusion is deafening.

Four years of frenetic and unsubstantiated allegations of "Russian interference" have disappeared overnight, it seems. Poof! Gone! As if by a magic conjuring trick. Now you see it, now you don't, so to speak.

The New York Times has declared the recent presidential contest a "great election.. a resounding success free of fraud". The Department of Homeland Security pronounced the election to be the "most secure in American history." Other US media outlets have jettisoned supposed political neutrality and can barely contain their elation at Biden's electoral victory.

But hold on a moment. In the months and weeks leading up to the November election, there was a fever pitch in US media among politicians, national security chiefs, pundits and anonymous intelligence sources that Russia was allegedly stepping up "interference efforts" to get Trump re-elected. Those evidence-free claims were predicated on the equally absurd assertion that Trump was a Manchurian candidate for the Kremlin. That "Russiagate" fable was first spun in 2016 and for the past four years elaborated into a tangled web to "explain" how a maverick former reality TV star had been elected to the White House.

Suddenly, however, the Democrats and supportive US media are now asserting that the voting process was impeccable and unblemished by any malfeasance. Of course they would say that in order to bolster legitimacy of Biden's win against the Republican White House incumbent Donald Trump. But the thundering takeaway which the US political class and media are bizarrely ignoring is that Russia did not interfere not in the 2020 race nor in any other election. Russia has always categorically said it is not meddling in US politics and its electoral process. Turns out that Russia is de facto vindicated in its protestations against American slander.

The "Russiagate" nonsense was hatched by Democrats, their supportive media and intelligence agencies because they could not come to terms with the reality of why Trump beat the then establishment-ordained candidate Hillary Clinton in 2016. Could it have been because Clinton and the Democrat party was repudiated by popular sentiment due to perceived corruption and overseas wars? No, another "explanation" had to be found. And the US political establishment came up with the "Russian interference" narrative.

No matter that the Mueller investigation found after 22 months of probing and hundreds of millions of taxpayer-dollars spent that there was no evidence of "Russia collusion" with the Trump campaign. Nevertheless, Mueller and the Democrats, their media and intelligence backers, persisted in the spurious notion that Russia meddled in the 2016 election and, allegedly, was continuing to meddle, purportedly with even more sophisticated, nefarious techniques.

How can US politicians, intelligence officials and media credibly claim that Russia interfered in 2016 and in mid-term congressional elections in 2018, but now in 2020 it evidently did not? The most logical explanation is simply that Russia never did.

Four years of hysterical American accusations against Russia have transpired to just that: bogus hysteria. US politicians, media and so-called intelligence gurus should be held to account for fabricating what is perhaps the biggest hoax ever played on the American public.

Though, one can be sure that they won't be held accountable in a formal way. Venal power doesn't work like that. And the US political system has built-in layers of self-protection for the political class never to be prosecuted. But in an informal no less real way, the system is being held to account by the wider public who are increasingly holding it in contempt and distrust. The political class and their plaything media are losing the moral authority to govern. This goes beyond mere Trump Derangement Syndrome. The systematic lying and deception over alleged Russian interference perpetrated on such a grand scale has fatally damaged the credibility of American institutions. Not just in the US, but around the world too.

Equally lamentable is the corrosive, damaging effect that the bogus hysteria has had on bilateral US-Russia relations and international tensions. Relations are at a dangerous all time low comparable to the depth of the Cold War. This has in turn sabotaged diplomatic efforts to strengthen arms controls and global security. The anti-Russia hysteria has led to the US abandonment of key nuclear weapons treaties, the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty and soon the New START.

The Russophobia that has been whipped up as a political weapon against Trump over the past four years is not something that can be easily put aside. It has engendered deep-seated hostility against Russia. During the presidential debates, Joe Biden vowed that the would take a tough stand against Russia for "interfering" in US politics. The incoming administration is being mentally held hostage by its own Russophobia which was cultivated on entirely false grounds.

It is disturbing how the US nation has been dragged into an obsession about alleged Russian malign activities, an obsession which turns out to be a mirage. Not for the first time either. Recall the Cold War Red Scares and McCarthyite witch-hunts which poisoned American society.

The implications are daunting. How can bilateral relations with Russia be restored? How can an intelligent dialogue be conducted with a nation whose leaders are so self-deluded and irrational?

Moreover, this is a nation whose leaders presume to have the prerogative to use overwhelming military force whenever they deem so. It is not unlike the driver of a juggernaut vehicle on a precipice who is hurtling along while out of his brain on misconceptions.

[Nov 28, 2020] Biden win demonstrates that God has a sense of humor; very dark humor

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

James O'Meara , says: November 27, 2020 at 6:46 pm GMT • 27 minutes ago

@Old and Grumpy

God has a sense of humor. Dark, as the Gnostics inferred, but humor none the less.

What the Chosen still don't "get" is that the joke's on them. (Admittedly the goyim get screwed too, but again, dark)

[Nov 28, 2020] After he cried Russia, Russia, Russia now Krebs says allegations of foreign interference in 2020 election 'farcical'

All soon as Biden got his nominal victory magic happens: 'Russian Interference' disappears. Four years of unsubstantiated allegations of "Russian interference" and neoliberal MSM hysteria have disappeared overnight, it seems. Poof! Gone! As if by a magic conjuring trick. And the silence of the neoliberal MSM over this strange metamorphose is deafening.
The New York Times has declared the recent presidential contest a "great election.. a resounding success free of fraud". But wait a minute. All 2020 there was a fever pitch in US media among politicians, national security chiefs, pundits and anonymous intelligence sources that Russia was allegedly stepping up "interference efforts" to get Trump re-elected. What a bunch of sleazy hypocrites.
Nov 28, 2020 | www.msn.com

Christopher Krebs, the top federal cybersecurity official who was fired by President Trump last week due to his efforts to dispel concerns on 2020 election safety, said claims of foreign meddling this year are "farcical."

[Nov 28, 2020] Shadow of Soviet Politburo over Washington: "People who succeed the most have failed the most". Put it on a damn t-shirt and i'd buy it.

Gerontocracy is just one problem facing Washington. Collapse of neoliberal is much more serious problem. But combination of those two problem spells trouble for the country.
Nov 28, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Cyril O'Reilly , 1 week ago

"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -- George Carlin

Richard Durocher , 1 week ago

Never expect solutions for problems from the people who created them.

Jason glover , 1 week ago

Goodbye social security, hello endless wars.

B. Greene , 1 week ago

Their age has less to do with it than their collective level of CORRUPTION and sick self serving ideology.

aguy ghow , 1 week ago

I have worked with Dementia and Alzheimer's patients for the past ten years, "on a daily basis," .. and yes, I see things that scare me.

[Nov 28, 2020] In 2008, Barack Obama received the names of his entire future cabinet one month prior to his election; looks like Biden does not even need to be informed about the composition of his cabinet

Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

In 2008, Barack Obama received the names of his entire future cabinet already one month prior to his election by CFR Senior Fellow (and Citigroup banker) Michael Froman, as a Wikileaks email later revealed. Consequently, the key posts in Obama's cabinet were filled almost exclusively by CFR members, as was the case in most cabinets since World War II. To be sure, Obama's 2008 Republican opponent, the late John McCain, was a CFR member, too. Michael Froman later negotiated the TPP and TTIP international trade agreements, before returning to the CFR as a Distinguished Fellow.

In 2017, CFR nightmare President Donald Trump immediately canceled these trade agreements -- because he viewed them as detrimental to US domestic industry -- which allowed China to conclude its own, recently announced RCEP free-trade area , encompassing 14 countries and a third of global trade. Trump also canceled other CFR achievements, like the multinational Iran nuclear deal and the UN climate and migration agreements, and he tried, but largely failed, to withdraw US troops from East Asia, Central Asia, the Middle East, Europe and Africa, thus seriously endangering the global US empire built over decades by the CFR and its 5000 elite members .

Unsurprisingly, most of the US media , whose owners and editors are themselves members of the CFR , didn't like President Trump. This was also true for most of the European media, whose owners and editors are members of international CFR affiliates like the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission, founded by CFR directors after the conquest of Europe during World War II. Moreover, it was none other than the CFR which in 1996 advocated a closer cooperation between the CIA and the media, i.e. a restart of the famous CIA Operation Mockingbird . Historically, OSS and CIA directors since William Donovan and Allen Dulles have always been CFR members.

Joe Biden promised that he would form "the most diverse cabinet" in US history. This may be true in terms of skin color and gender, but almost all of his key future cabinet members have one thing in common: they are, indeed, members of the US Council on Foreign Relations .

This is the case for Anthony Blinken (State), Alejandro Mayorkas (Homeland Security), Janet Yellen (Treasury), Michele Flournoy and Jeh Johnson (candidates for Defense), Linda Thomas-Greenfield (Ambassador to the UN), Richard Stengel (US Agency for Global Media; Stengel famously called propaganda "a good thing" at a 2018 CFR session), John Kerry (Special Envoy for Climate), Nelson Cunningham (candidate for Trade), and Thomas Donilon (candidate for CIA Director).

Jake Sullivan, Biden's National Security Advisor, is not (yet) a CFR member, but Sullivan has been a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (a think tank "promoting active international engagement by the United States") and a member of the US German Marshall Fund's "Alliance For Securing Democracy" (a major promoter of the "Russiagate" disinformation campaign to restrain the Trump presidency), both of which are run by senior CFR members.

Most of Biden's CFR-vetted nominees supported recent US wars against Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen as well as the 2014 regime change in Ukraine. Unsurprisingly, neoconservative Max Boot, the CFR Senior Fellow in National Security Studies and one of the most vocal opponents of the Trump administration, has called Biden's future cabinet "America's A-Team" .

Thus, after four years of "populism" and "isolationism", a Biden presidency will mean the return of the Council on Foreign Relations and the continuation of a tradition of more than 70 years . Indeed, the CFR was founded in 1921 in response to the "trauma of 1920" , when US President Warren Harding and the US Senate turned isolationist and renounced US global leadership after World War I. In 2016, Donald Trump's "America First" campaign reactivated this 100 year old foreign policy trauma.

Was the 2020 presidential election "stolen", as some allege? There are certainly indications of significant statistical anomalies in key Democrat-run swing states. Whether these were decisive for the election outcome may be up to courts to decide. At any rate, Joe Biden may well be the first US President known to be involved in international corruption before even entering office.

Why are most US and international media hardly interested in this? Well, why should they?


[Nov 28, 2020] It don't matter Trump gang, or gang of Creepy Joe and the Crackheads wins, they all bow to the NWO, its their religion, the Church of the Full Spectrum Dominance, based on holly scriptures as The New American century

Nov 28, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Nov 27, 2020 1:40 PM

I just had to write this, since foreign policies are not the main issue in OffG, so I took the liberty of writing my concerns, because I know the window is closing.

And I must underline, it don't matter Trump or gang of Creepy Joe and the Crackheads, they all bow to the NWO, its their religion, the Curch of the Full spectrum dominance, based up holly scriptures as The New American century.

[Nov 28, 2020] Traditions matter

Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Pennsylvania Appeals Court Tosses Trump Lawsuit, Setting Stage For Supreme Court Showdown - Zero Hedge

PigMan , 1 hour ago

Translation: "Election fraud is sanctioned by the PA courts."

dark pools of soros , 1 hour ago

It's our Tradition!

[Nov 28, 2020] In Memory of Stephen Cohen - NYU Jordan Center

Nov 28, 2020 | jordanrussiacenter.org

In Memory of Stephen Cohen All the Russias


Earlier this year, our friend and colleague Stephen Cohen passed away. His contributions to the field of Russian, East European, and Eurasian Studies will be felt for years to come. Professor Cohen was a historian, but his legacy extends far beyond his scholarly work. Every year, the Stephen Cohen Fellowship -- established on Professor Cohen's initiative and supported by Katrina vanden Heuvel and the Kat Foundation -- funds the graduate education for master's students in the Department of Russian & Slavic Studies at NYU. Professor Cohen has also helped enable doctoral students to conduct dissertation research in Russia through the Cohen-Tucker Fellowship .

As we prepare to celebrate Thanksgiving in the United States, we give thanks to Stephen Cohen for not only his work in the REEES field but for the generosity he, Katrina vanden Heuvel, and the Kat Foundation have shown to budding Russia scholars. We honor him today by publishing the testimonials of some of current and former students who have benefitted from Cohen Fellowships.

Natasha Bluth (Cohen Fellowship)

The Stephen Cohen Fellowship enabled me to continue my studies of the former Soviet Union, not only easing the financial burden of graduate school, but also providing the opportunity to merge journalistic training with area studies, engage with a wide range of scholars and regional specialists, and conduct field research in Ukraine. The support and encouragement Stephen Cohen offered at our annual fellowship alumni dinners also inspired me to pursue a PhD in sociology in order to explore post-Soviet civil society, nationalism, and gender from a social-scientific perspective.

Michael Coates (Cohen-Tucker Fellowship)

During the 2018-19 academic year, I held a Cohen-Tucker Dissertation Fellowship, which I used to fund over a year of archival research in Russia on the history of the Great Soviet Encyclopedia. The fellowship allowed me to visit more than a dozen archives in Moscow and Saint Petersburg, and to copy thousands of pages of original documents. Had I not been able to carry out this archival work, I would not have been able to write my dissertation. The travel that the Fellowship enabled was also personally significant to me, because I had never been to Russia before I arrived in Moscow for my research year, even though I had already been studying the country and its language for several years. It is one thing to read books about a particular place, but actually experiencing life there first-hand is quite another, and has been essential to the development of my understanding of the region. I am extremely grateful to Prof. Cohen and Ms. vanden Heuvel for their generosity in funding the next generation of Russia specialists.

John V. Walsh • a day ago

Stephen F. Cohen performed a great service in the last four years as he relentlessly refuted the great Russiagate hoax which not only distorted our political life but seriously wounded US-Russia relations for years to come. That hoax is a threat to world peace and Prof. Cohen from the very first saw through it. Both in his writings for The Nation and his near weekly conversations with John Batchelor of ABC radio rebutted it clearly, eloquently and at times with good humor. How very much he is missed.

[Nov 27, 2020] While Trump as a populist has been greatly disappointing, his accidental gift has been giving reason for the swamp critters to out themselves

Nov 27, 2020 | www.unz.com

Old and Grumpy , says: November 27, 2020 at 2:22 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Trump the populist has been greatly disappointing. His accidental gift has been giving reason for the swamp critters to out themselves. It has been hilarious to watch them and their press pets talk about how things will go back to normal with Biden. Also how the good and kind their war machine is. What I am stuck on is if the Ukraine's Maidan is any guide, don't they need Trump to win the election thru the courts ? Or not?

[Nov 26, 2020] Big Lie that Won't Die- Russiagate Still Around by Stephen Lendman

Notable quotes:
"... If Trump's legal action against brazen election fraud to deny him a second term succeeds -- what's highly unlikely but possible -- will a phony DJT/Russia connection again make headline news? ..."
Nov 24, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

The scheme was cooked up by Obama/Biden regime Russophobes John Brennan, Hillary and the DNC -- to smear Russia and discredit Trump at the same time.

It aimed to maintain and escalate US hostility toward the Russian Federation – for its sovereign independence, advocacy for world peace, opposition to Washington's imperial agenda, and having foiled its aim to transform Syria into another US vassal state.

It also relates to Sino/Russian unity – representing the only obstacle to Washington's aim for unchallenged global dominance.

Probes by special counsel Robert Mueller, as well as House and Senate committees found no evidence of Russian US meddling.

Nor did the US intelligence community. Claims otherwise without corroborating evidence were and remain baseless.

In US criminal judicial proceedings, evidence beyond a reasonable doubt is required for convictions.

Without it, fairly and impartially adjudicated cases would be dismissed.

Time and again, Russia was falsely accused of US election meddling, notably in the run-up to Trump v. Hillary in 2016.

To this day, no credible evidence ever proved accusations because none exists.

The Russiagate hoax remains one of the most shameful political chapters in US history, exceeding the worst of McCarthyism because despite its exposed Big Lies, it's still around.

Yet in 2018 testimony before House Intelligence Committee members, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (2010 – 2017) said the following:

"I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting (or) conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election."

"I do not recall any instance when I had direct evidence of the content of" alleged Trump team-Russia collusion.

Remarks like the above, along with failure of probes by Mueller, House and Senate members to present evidence of Russian US election meddling should have ended the Russiagate witch-hunt once and for all.

While largely dormant in the run-up to and aftermath of US Election 2020, it could resurface any time in old or new form.

In following NYT reports on other issues, most recently with regard to Trump v. Biden/Harris, I haven't seen a Russiagate report in its online editions for some time.

Belatedly I discovered an August 2020 mini-book-length article in the NYT Magazine (online), a publication I don't follow.

It discusses a classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) of various geopolitical issues, this one prepared in July 2019.

The Times: "According to multiple officials who saw it, the document discussed Russia's ongoing efforts to influence US elections: the 2020 presidential contest and 2024's as well (sic)."

Its so-called "interest" is much the same as in other nations.

"Interest" has nothing to do with meddling. No credible evidence ever surfaced to show US election interference by any nations.

It's in sharp contrast to credible evidence of US meddling in scores of elections abroad throughout the post-WW II period and earlier.

According to "key judgments" of US intelligence officials, "Russia favored the current president: Donald Trump," adding:

Ahead of the summer 2020 party national conventions, "Russia worked in support of the (Dem) presidential candidate Bernie Sanders," said the Times, based on the NIE report.

It wasn't "genuine" support for Sanders, just an effort "to weaken that party and ultimately help the current US president (sic)."

The Times: "Just as this article was going to press," the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) claimed the following:

Moscow "is using a range of measures to primarily denigrate former (Joe) Biden and what it sees as an anti-Russia 'establishment (sic).' "

The ODNI accused Moscow of "sophisticated election-disrupting capabilities (sic)."

An unnamed intelligence community source familiar with the NIE was quoted, saying it's "100 percent reliable (sic)."

Left unexplained by the Times was that from inception to the present day, Russiagate was and remains a colossal hoax.

No evidence ever surfaced to suggest Kremlin US election meddling, nor by any other foreign country.

What the NIE allegedly called "100 percent reliable" defied reality. It's part of longstanding Russia bashing.

In January 2017, a US intelligence community report titled "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections: The Analytic Process and Cyber Incident Attribution" -- claiming Trump v. Hillary election meddling -- included no evidence proving it.

None existed then or now to present day.

When Vladimir Putin was asked if he wanted Trump to win in 2016 -- at a joint Helsinki, Finland news conference with DJT in July 2018 -- he replied: "Yes, I did."

His preference for Trump over Hillary was unrelated to election meddling.

If other foreign leaders expressed a preference for one US presidential candidate over another, the same logic holds.

One thing has nothing to do with the other. Implying otherwise is an act of deception, a longstanding US intelligence community and Times specialty.

Trump was justifiably skeptical about accusations of Russian US election meddling that favored him over Hillary in 2016 or over Biden/Harris this month.

According to the Times, Trump's objections to claims about alleged Russia US election meddling "alarm(ed) the intelligence community."

Former acting CIA director/Hillary campaign advisor Michael Morell was quoted calling Trump "an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation."

He's a political novice, geopolitical know-nothing, first ever US reality TV president.

He's no witting or unwitting Russian agent.

Separately, Morell defied reality, claiming:

Election 2016 was "the only time in American history when we've been attacked by a foreign country and not come together as a nation," adding:

"In fact, it split us further apart."

"It was an inexpensive, relatively easy to carry out covert mission." It deepened our divisions."

"I'm absolutely convinced that those Russian intelligence officers who put together and managed the attack on our democracy (sic) in 2016 all received medals personally from Vladimir Putin (sic)."

The above claims and others about a DJT/Russia connection et al are pure rubbish.

The lengthy Times magazine piece was all about smearing Russia, falsely claiming Kremlin US election meddling, and demeaning Trump for defeating media darling Hillary.

No evidence was included to back any of the above claims. None exists.

In the run-up to and aftermath of US election 2020, Russiagate simmers largely below the surface.

If Trump's legal action against brazen election fraud to deny him a second term succeeds -- what's highly unlikely but possible -- will a phony DJT/Russia connection again make headline news?

Will there be claims of Kremlin involvement in backing litigation to discredit Biden/Harris?

No matter how often the Russiagate Big Lie was debunked before, it may never die.

It may be around as long as the Russian Federation and China remain Washington's favorite national security threats.

Real ones don't exist so they're invented as pretexts to advance US imperial interests.

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His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: US Drive for Hegemony Risks WW III."

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[Nov 26, 2020] The doublethink phenomenon.

Nov 26, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Eric Newhill , 26 November 2020 at 02:41 PM

David Hasakkuk,
I'd love to hear you what deeper psychological analysis you may have to offer on the doublethink phenomenon.

Someone, a hardcore democrat, recently lectured to me that conservatives have no principles evidenced by support for Trump. I responded that her party should not be lecturing given their near worship of Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton and apparent lust for killing the unborn. She went psychotic on me. It seems like it's the same spell that people in cults fall into - and I've seen some people that I thought were fairly smart and worldly fall into it.

Symptoms appear to include a lack of ability to appreciate irony, lack of self-reflection, loss of ability to reason, loss of all perspective and a tendency to see choices as between an exaggeration of the ugliness of the reality that exists and a fantastical utopia or idealized person that doesn't exist and never will.

[Nov 26, 2020] The historic Trump presidency emasculated globalism by Patrick J. Buchanan

Nov 26, 2020 | www.wnd.com

The historic Trump presidency emasculated globalism Pat Buchanan notes how the elite Bush-type Republicans have been silenced Patrick J. Buchanan By Patrick J. Buchanan Published November 26, 2020 at 6:39pm Share on Facebook Tweet P Share Email Print In the first two decades of the century, President-elect Joe Biden's choice for secretary of state supported U.S. wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen. He was an ever-reliable liberal interventionist.

This same Antony Blinken could spend the first years of a Biden presidency helping extricate our country from the misbegotten wars he championed. What establishment Democrats like Biden and Blinken helped to do in previous administrations, they will likely now have to undo.

Who effected this sea change in national thinking?

Donald Trump. Much that was said and believed before he came down the escalator in 2015 is no longer said or believed by the majority of Americans.

And no institution has been more altered than the Republican Party.

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George H.W. Bush's vision of a "New World Order," launched at the after-party of his Gulf War victory, died with his presidency.

George W. Bush's crusade for global democracy to "end tyranny in our world" has been forgotten. Bush Republicans no longer speak for the party on foreign policy, trade or immigration.

NATO will never be the same again after Trump rudely demanded that freeloading nations pay their fair share of the collective defense or the Americans would pack up and come home from Europe.

Former Defense Secretary Gen. James Mattis may call for the ash-canning of the phrase "America First." He will fail. For, as both national motto and national policy, the slogan has put down roots in American soil because it comports with the will of the silent majority.

Whatever the establishment believes, in the clash between nationalism and globalism, globalism has lost America.

Moreover, the world is going this way.

Does not Xi Jinping put his own country first as he claims for China all the waters and islands for hundreds of miles into the East and South China seas? Does not Vladimir Putin put his own country first as he seeks to bring back under Moscow's wing the former republics of the Russian federation?

Does not President Erdogan put Turkey first as he sends arms and troops to pursue his country's interests in Libya, Syria, Cyprus, the South Caucasus and the Eastern Mediterranean in clashes with Greece?

What does Bibi Netanyahu put first, if not his own country, Israel?

If country and nation are not first in the hearts and minds of Americans, what should replace them? Some nonexistent New World Order? The U.N.? NATO? A multilateral caucus of global institutions?

Under Trump, economic nationalism has displaced free trade globalism as the trade policy of the party and government.

The GOP elite that backed Bill Clinton on NAFTA, supported a new transnational World Trade Organization, invited China to join the club and accorded Beijing most-favored-nation trade status is now silent.

Tariffs to force open foreign markets and punish predator-traders who take advantage of American workers have replaced the free trade fundamentalism that had been dogma since Dwight Eisenhower's days.

Nor is the Republican Party likely to return to free trade, as long as "China First" is the undeclared policy pursued by the nation that has now displaced us as the world's leading manufacturing power.

The George Bush-John McCain Republican Party was for amnesty for illegals and open borders for new migrants. Today's GOP supports the deportation of illegals and the 30-foot Trump Wall on the Mexican border.

[Nov 26, 2020] Did Jews fail to deliver- by Israel Shamir

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Did Jews Fail to Deliver? ISRAEL SHAMIR NOVEMBER 18, 2020 2,300 WORDS 161 COMMENTS REPLY Tweet Reddit Share Share Email Print More

President Trump gave to Israel all she could wish for; he hoped that in return, the Jews would give him America to rule another term. A simple give-and-take, but it didn't work out as intended. If he were to run for the presidency of Israel, he would have it. If Brooklyn were to decide who'd inhabit the White House, he would be the Chosen one. But Trump's plan to bribe US Jews by bearing gifts to Israel failed completely.

East Europeans define the difference between Jews and Hungarians (or Poles) as follows. All of these would sell their grandmother for a fistful of coins; but only a Jew would deliver. This non-delivery of America will be remembered by future US presidents. Perhaps we witness a defining moment for the downturn in American support of Israel, in direct contradiction to the main thesis of our colleague Philip Giraldi who said this week that "Israel's Power Is Unlimited". Why did it happen? The US Jews didn't take the bait. And now for details.

"Zionist" is a euphemism for "Jew", isn't it? Up to a point. Zionists, that is Jews (and others) who care and work for Israel, are strongly supportive of the US President, but Jews that matter, that is elite liberal progressive US Jews, won't support Trump even if he were to pave Tel Aviv with golden bricks. Three out of four US Jews voted for Joe Biden , about the same proportion of Jews who voted for Barack Obama, though Obama was quite critical towards Israel, while Trump did all the Israelis could wish for.

The Jews that cared more about Israel voted for Trump, but they are powerless. They have money, they have good positions in society, but they aren't top dogs. The Orthodox Jews are for Trump; not so much for the sake of Israel but rather for his conservative agenda. They do not like gay parades, do not care for transgenderism, and for them, Black Lives do not matter much. Social justice is not their credo.They have little influence outside their own milieu. They voted 77 to 23 for Trump. Right-wing Jews are strongly Zionist and support Trump. Their publication FrontPage Magazine is all out for Trump. But they would be for Trump even if he hadn't left Iran agreement.

Polls of Jewish voters show that they do not care much about the steps taken by Trump in order to please Israel. They are worried about Covid pandemics, about medical care, while economics occupies fifth place in their concerns, and Israeli-related acts are at the very bottom. The only place where one can notice some positive change is Florida, where Jews actually shifted in noticeable numbers to Republicans. But even there it seems to be a part of a Latino shift rather than a separate phenomenon.

Elite Jews voted for Biden and for Dems as advised by the NY Times. For them, Trump's friendship with PM Netanyahu was a drawback rather than an advantage. If they care for Israel, they would prefer a quieter approach as usual, within the Two States paradigm. None of what Trump did for Israel found a response in their hearts.

According to the AJC (American Jewish Committee) Biden bested Trump on every issue including handling the coronavirus pandemic, 78%-19%; combatting terrorism, 71%-26%; dealing with Iran, 71%-27%; handling crime, 72%-24%, and strengthening U.S.-Israel relations, 54%-42%. (The Republican Jewish Coalition has slightly better numbers, as they polled older Jews.) Trump has expressed frustration that his Israel decisions have not garnered greater support in the Jewish community, and many activists have spoken of "treason".

If Trump had known in advance that courting Jews would bring neither votes nor political profit, probably he would have wasted less time in the Zionist cul-de-sac. Jews are connected with the Dem Party, remember! All Jewish congressmen but two are Democrats; strongly pro-Israel Senator Chuck Schumer, the Dem leader in the Senate, is as hostile to Trump as any man. Only those Jews really matter; only those Jews have their unique access to media, movies, art, politics, and universities. Perhaps they would act differently if Israel were in danger; but thanks to the generous politics of Donald Trump they didn't need to worry about Israel. (Preceding American presidents were aware of this catch, and were careful not to give too much to Israel. This was also the view of Dr Kissinger).

Israeli Jews are much more pro-Trump than their American cousins. If Israel were a US state, it would be deep red. They feel gratitude to the man who moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem and recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. They appreciate his drive for normalisation with the Arab states; his non-interference in the Palestinian issue; his recognition of the Golan Heights. Being more conservative, they are on the same page as Trump on many issues. However, even before Trump, the majority of Israeli Likud-voters are and have been for the Republicans for many years. They did not like Obama and Clinton, and they do not care for Biden. A prominent high tech Israeli personality prophesied that Biden would bring disaster for Israel.

However, in Israel, too, there is a sharp division between elites and Deplorable masses. The Deplorables support Netanyahu and Trump, vote domestically for Likud or religious parties. The Deplorables rule Israel for over twenty years; Netanyahu is the Israeli Trump who succeeded to keep power.

The Israeli elites support Biden. For them Trump is a mirror image of their own PM Netanyahu, the man they hate with gusto. The problem with Israeli elites is that they have lost their ability to govern. Their parties disintegrate; their causes are lost. If there is a common cause for Israeli elites it is rejection of PM Netanyahu mirroring the NeverTrump spirit of American elites, and their belief that they are elites and destined to govern.

They want to get rid of Netanyahu, like the US elites wanted to get rid of Trump. This desire caused three rounds of national elections in the last year, but despite trying hard, they could not vote him out. Now they hope he will be removed by the Supreme Court, and by massive demonstrations near the PM's residence. They say he is corrupt, that he takes bribes, that he didn't save Israel from Coronavirus – just like the Dems had tried to impeach Trump for ridiculous reasons. They want Netanyahu to die in jail, just like the Dems hope to see Trump rotting in Guantanamo. (There are hundreds of women ready to swear Trump almost-raped them fifty years ago when they were underage.)

The case against Netanyahu is feeble at best. He received a pack of cigars and a box of champagne from an American film producer; he promised to help a newspaper publisher if he would stop attacking him. A murky case connects him to a German submarine sale, but it is too opaque even for Netanyahu haters.The PM had been indicted by the state attorney, but by Israeli law, he does not have to resign unless found guilty. Israel is experiencing huge and violent demos against Netanyahu almost daily. But the deplorables still support their Bibi, and vote for him. As opposed to Trump, Netanyahu has a newspaper, and it makes a lot of difference.

It would be nice if there were some positive differences between the Israeli Left and Right on important issues. No such luck. There is practically no difference between Likud and the liberal parties regarding the really important Palestinian question. The Left-wing and Right-wing Jews are on the same page: they do not want to grant equality to non-Jews. They treat Palestinians much worse than the Blacks were treated in Alabama a hundred years ago. They aren't even interested in Palestinians.

The Israeli liberal left is interested in Lesbians and Gays; the main point of the election campaign of the once-radical-left Meretz (I was their spokesman 40 years ago) was gay adoption and access to surrogate mothers. And that in a society where workers earn less and less every year, while houses cost more and more; where regular employment is a dream for workers; where trade unions collapsed, and instead of employment, workers are offered a contract with unlimited working hours, no holidays and no security at all. All in a country where Palestinians are not allowed even to bathe in the sea a few miles from their besieged villages.

Another topic of the liberal elite is their fight against religion.They are equal haters, hating religious Jews as well as Christians and Muslims. The outbreak of Covid provided them with a new reason to hate the believing Jews: they go to synagogues instead of staying at home or going to demos against Netanyahu. I do not know any redeeming feature of this group, but they are quite similar to liberal elites elsewhere.

In France, too, the ruling elite hates Islam and promotes Charlie Hebdo; but they hate Christianity, too. The first thing Macron did in the present lockdown was to ban the Mass. And his support groups, the elite liberals, were mighty pleased. In this video , you can see young liberals asking police to disperse Catholics praying outside of Church. The same happens in Israel, and in New York, where police have interfered with praying Jews.

The main difference between the populists of Netanyahu and the elitists is in their attitude to ordinary people. The populists exude empathy while elitists just deplore. At the practical level, they do not differ. Both are equally bad for workers, for ordinary Jews and Palestinians. Populists waste public money on Jewish settlements in the occupied territories, while elitists offer free Nepalese surrogate mothers for every gay.

As for Covid lockdowns, the elitists approve of them, just like Biden and his Dems do. The deplorables dislike them greatly, for they lose their jobs, and they can't afford it, but they still do not rebel.

In the US, the populists of Trump did not get much from his first cadence. A possible solution would be the integration of left populists and right populists, of Trump taking Tulsi Gabbard as his VP or at least as Secretary of State, of Trump giving every American citizen medical care as in Europe, of him providing quality education free, of him taxing billionaires and supporting workers. Such a ticket would be unbeatable. And stop bothering with the Jews and Israel; they have nuisance value, but nothing more.

Now we can explain why the Trump Zionist Offensive didn't help him. The US (as well as US Jews and Israel) is split into incompetent but cocksure elites and gullible but angry Deplorables. The vote in the recent elections was a test of loyalty: are you with the elites or with the Deplorables (in Hebrew, עמך)? In the US, where many Jews actually belong to elites, even those outside accept elite values and narratives and still hope to get invited in. A US Jew has to despair to join Trump and his counter-élites, and they are still hopeful.

The Jewish newspaper Forward tells of "two young Jewish political activists who formed the Jewish Unity PAC and raised all of $31,000, and every cent of it was spent supporting Joe Biden and Kamala Harris." It's not that they care for Biden, but these young people know where their bright future may lie.

In Israel, the elites are against Netanyahu, but the majority of Israelis, Jews or non-Jews, have already despaired of being invited into the traditional elites. So they have no problem voting for Netanyahu or supporting Trump. However, the Israel of Netanyahu and his Deplorables is much less attractive to US Jews than the old elitist Labour-ruled Ashkenazi Israel. They do not admit it; certainly not in writing, but there is no social lift for a US Jew in going to Israel or even in supporting Israel. Thus Zionism as a cause has lost its attraction for US Jews. And probably this change is irreversible: the old Ashkenazi elite of Israel is gone, and it won't come back. It has been supplanted by Oriental Jews, by religious folk, by the Ashkenazi counter-elites of Likud. There is no profit in courting Israel as much as Trump did.

If Trump does, despite enormous odds, gain his second term, perhaps he will learn the lesson and treat Israel as Jewish Liberia. It would be a great relief for the US and for the people of Israel. Being cut off from the US supply pipeline, Israel may yet make peace with Palestinians and become a normal Middle Eastern state. The US won't be driven into far-away wars. It would be better if Trump had understood earlier, but better late than never.

American support is as dangerous for Israel as Russian support is for Armenia. Armenians had 30 years to make peace with their neighbours but they didn't for they were sure of Russian support. Israelis had 50 years, but they didn't because of the US support. Armenians already came to grief, and for Israel it is coming, unless they will disengage from their protective superpower. So the special relations between the US elites and Israel are fully exhausted for both sides.

And meanwhile, Israel sits on the fence. "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu chose not to refer to Joe Biden as president-elect during a press conference Monday, saying instead that Biden was "supposed to be appointed the next president", reported Haaretz .

Israel Shamir can be reached at [email protected]

This article was first published at The Unz Review .


Altai , says: November 18, 2020 at 2:16 pm GMT • 8.3 days ago

though Obama was quite critical towards Israel

https://www.youtube.com/embed/NIgfiSzCy1o?feature=oembed

Fixed that for you.

though Obama was less vocally supportive towards Israel

TG , says: November 18, 2020 at 3:07 pm GMT • 8.3 days ago

But one must remember: both parties are completely totally pro-Israel. Meaning the there is no reward for a politician in supporting Israel, only punishment for those that don't.

And while this might or might not completely apply to Trump, most modern American politicians don't care all that much about winning elections. They care about doing the bidding of their wealthy patrons, and getting rewarded on the side. It's about putting on a show for the masses, and as in professional wrestling, both the 'winners' and the 'losers' get paid. Sitting on corporate boards, distinguished positions in academia, cushy book contracts, the press treating them like senior statesmen, awards and accolades, that sort of thing.

Consider also: Trump presumably will continue to run businesses and will need contacts and support etc from other wealthy people, many of whom of course will be Jewish. Not pissing off the Jews might still be critical to him in the days to come

BuelahMan , says: November 18, 2020 at 3:51 pm GMT • 8.3 days ago

I find it most difficult to believe what a jew says that jews think, especially when it is geared towards goy.

Of course, only because I am antisemitic not that jews lie with abandon, covering for the tribe in some way.

saggy , says: Website November 18, 2020 at 5:01 pm GMT • 8.2 days ago

Jews were the prime movers in the effort to impeach Clinton as told by David Brock in 'Blinded by the Right', and Jews were the prime movers in the effort to impeach Trump as was widely publicized, and yet the response of Clinton and Trump was to redouble their efforts to please the Jews . probably to 'follow the money'.

A123 , says: November 18, 2020 at 6:07 pm GMT • 8.2 days ago

Did Jews Fail to Deliver?

Which Jews Failed to Deliver What?

The article is much better than the headline.

The author concedes that there is no "Jewish Side" and in fact details how there are significant numbers of Jews on opposing sides.

However, in Israel, too, there is a sharp division between elites and Deplorable masses. The Deplorables support Netanyahu and Trump, vote domestically for Likud or religious parties.

The Israeli elites support Biden. For them Trump is a mirror image of their own PM Netanyahu, the man they hate with gusto. The problem with Israeli elites is that they have lost their ability to govern

The virulent Anti-Semitism of Islam is aggressively trying to contaminate certain western parties such as Labour and the DNC. However, movements like Muslim BLM are generating so much backlash that they are already losing traction. In the U.S.:

-- Conservatives are likely to join the Orthodox, majority voting for GOP Populism and workers.
-- Reform and Reconstructionist are likely to stay aligned against workers with the Blue SJW Elites of the Globalist DNC.

I find it baffling that Jews openly oppose Judeo-Christian values by staying with SJW "woke" apostasy. However, it is a fact that huge numbers of Jews act against their own self interest.

It is not unique to them. Huge numbers of Christians make the same mistake siding with SJW deviancy.

PEACE

RealAmerican , says: November 18, 2020 at 6:15 pm GMT • 8.2 days ago
@BuelahMan

You cannot be serious BuelahMan? Take your blinders off.
Those that you speak of are indeed many, but not so Mr. Shamir.
Great read Mr. Shamir. Thank you!

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Website November 18, 2020 at 8:28 pm GMT • 8.1 days ago
@BuelahMan

Israel Shamir is not a Jew.

No Friend Of The Devil , says: November 18, 2020 at 9:22 pm GMT • 8.0 days ago

Republicans are not courting American Jews in order to win their votes. Republicans are courting American Jews in order to win their wallets and positive press coverage. There are not enough Rebublican Jews to sway an election, but there is enough Republican Jewish money and Republican Jewish media for the Republican Party to pay attention to them.

Andrea Iravani

Chris Moore , says: Website November 19, 2020 at 12:10 am GMT • 7.9 days ago
@No Friend Of The Devil Bingo. Plus, to fend of the inevitable, demagogic "anti-Semitism" accusations from liberals, leftists and Democrats, and their stooges in MSM.

The "anti-Semitism" accusation has paid off well for Jews. It's kind of like the "Holocaust" wail -- the gift that keeps on giving. Someday, all that Jewish dogma will be recognized as the grift it's always been. Not today, but maybe tomorrow, or the day after

Then we can watch ALL the grifters scramble for cover. Maybe they'll hide in an attic. Then they'll make up some story of epic persecution and start the cycle over again.

How many times will Charlie Brown fall for it? How many times will Charlie Chan fall for it? We'll find out.

Anonymous [208] Disclaimer , says: November 19, 2020 at 5:24 am GMT • 7.7 days ago

Ah but you forget that Trump's political base is Evangelical Christians and they are Zionists.

The big money may come from conservative Jews (like Adelson) but his popular support is from Christians.

anon [321] Disclaimer , says: November 19, 2020 at 5:50 am GMT • 7.7 days ago

Jews dumped Trump for Biden because he didn't do enough. With Biden they get even more support for Israel, including putting more troops in Syria to finally take out Assad, and perhaps finally going to war with Iran, which Trump wouldn't do. Plus Biden will give them billions of taxpayer money to run the Diversity Industrial Complex, with every government agency now requiring diversity training, and lots more diversity and race initiatives everywhere, all rackets run by Jews, with a few token blacks. And then there's media censorship, which Trump won't give them but Biden/Harris are already putting on the agenda.

niceland , says: November 19, 2020 at 5:58 am GMT • 7.7 days ago

Interesting article. Thanks Mr Shamir.

JWalters , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:05 am GMT • 7.7 days ago

"Biden bested Trump on every issue including strengthening U.S.-Israel relations, 54%-42%."

Biden puts a more "civilized" face on Israel's inhumane ethnic cleansing. Trump was so obvious and garish about it. Trump ran the risk of calling too much attention to Israel's crimes. But "both sides" were still willing to have Israel grab all that Trump was "giving" (though illegal and not Trump's to give). As others have noted, Trump's payoff may come after he is out of office. Much is theater.

Zarathustra , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:14 am GMT • 7.7 days ago

Come to think about it Trump could make good money opening a TV station. all sane Americans would watch it. The advertisement money would just be poring in. This would be excellent thing.
Trump has many followers. Trump would give his followers some hope.

Justsaying , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:24 am GMT • 7.7 days ago

The purported failure of Jews to deliver presupposes Jews are under some sort of obligation to deliver. Jews are in total control. They have the sworn, unsolicited and total subservience of any American presidential candidate of substance. Quite the contrary, it is the Jewish colony of America that must deliver to its colonial master.

Zarathustra , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:31 am GMT • 7.6 days ago
@Zarathustra

Also from there he could criticize Biden's administration and make Biden miserable for all four years.

RedpilledAF , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:33 am GMT • 7.6 days ago

A Jewish dialectic. By design and effort. That's what it always comes down to. That is the vicious cycle that needs to broken. Jewish thesis, Jewish antithesis, Jewish synthesis, rinse and repeat.

Ghali , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:48 am GMT • 7.6 days ago

It is true that Democrats are bought and owned by Jews. But, I have to agree with Andre Joyce. Jews are very unreliable people, possibly the most unreliable of backers. Trump exhausted his usefulness to Jews and they threw him under the bus. Jews want someone as racist Zionist as Biden.

In Biden Jews find a long time obedient Gentile servant. Biden will do what Obama and Trump refused to do. He is a well-known war criminal and he will leash war on the Middle East.

Clay Alexander , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:50 am GMT • 7.6 days ago

Great article. Did the Jews deliver ? The question should be did any one group deliver ? Trump was way to erratic and made way to many enemies and always seemed to say the first thing that popped into his head. A good example of one of the stranger incidents was in Oct. 2018 when Rap star and mental defective Kanye West sat in the Oval Office and went a non-stop, rambling, incoherent tirade. The President of the United States sat there like a moron nodding approvingly it made Trump look foolish and cheapened all Americans. He sunk himself with his big mouth and his tantrums. As far as the voting went it brings to mind the Joe Pesci character from Casino in the end they all had enough.

Hiram of Tyre , says: November 19, 2020 at 6:52 am GMT • 7.6 days ago
@Chris Moore

Anti-semitism , Holocaust ; "it's a trick" .

https://www.youtube.com/embed/9DKeLLlaws8?feature=oembed

chris , says: November 19, 2020 at 7:00 am GMT • 7.6 days ago

Yeah, liberal Jews profess universal values, they keep their fervent support for Israel hidden, because that gives away the fact that they are hypocrits. It's like the whore that they're banging at every opportunity. And now Trump comes out and admonishes them in the open to vote for him because of the jewlery and boob job he's bought her – as much as they like it, they are profoundly mortified by his crude appeal. . and of course they know that she's being taken care through all the institutions they're supporting.

In some sense, Trump missing the boat on this issue is like Hillary selling herself as a war hawk, when that didn't actually sell anymore; she had missed the boat by 40 years.

gT , says: November 19, 2020 at 7:40 am GMT • 7.6 days ago

No, the Jews did not fail to deliver. Jews always support both sides in any conflict so that whoever wins they can claim to have supported / made the winning side...

AnonStarter , says: November 19, 2020 at 9:54 am GMT • 7.5 days ago

It would be nice if there were some positive differences between the Israeli Left and Right on important issues. No such luck. There is practically no difference between Likud and the liberal parties regarding the really important Palestinian question.

I don't find it all that different here.

Quite a few Jews on the American left expose their Zionist underbelly whenever the question of Palestine arises...

Verymuchalive , says: November 19, 2020 at 10:12 am GMT • 7.5 days ago

American support is as dangerous for Israel as Russian support is for Armenia. Armenians had 30 years to make peace with their neighbours but they didn't for they were sure of Russian support. Israelis had 50 years, but they didn't because of the US support. Armenians already came to grief, and for Israel it is coming, unless they will disengage from their protective superpower. So the special relations between the US elites and Israel are fully exhausted for both sides.

Excellent article, sticking more or less dispassionately to the facts. Also, it draws the logical inference of these facts, as outlined above. The economic collapse of America is only a matter of time, and with it the collapse of its subsidies to Israel. History is full of instances of small states encouraged in their intransigence by their patrons, whether intentionally or indirectly. With the loss of the patrons, their clients are then forced to agree terms at very unfavourable conditions, compared to what they would have got, had they negotiated previously.

God's Fool , says: November 19, 2020 at 12:58 pm GMT • 7.4 days ago

Obama critical of Israel? Are you kidding or may be misleading? Ehud Barak is on record (Charlie Rose Show now defunct) stating unequivocally that the other Barak had done more for Israel than any other American president before him.

No matter how you cut it, Jews alone have a way too much power in the U. S Take for example a mundane decision to cap number of people that should get together for the Thanksgiving: not 9 or 11 but exactly 10, per Dr. Ranit Mishori (she is an Israeli woman) on PBS Newshour last night. Her explanation was very disarming when asked about it. Oh, she said, "they" decided that ten was the right number guess how many people does it take to form a "community of Israel" or the so called Minyan?" TEN! It's all about Jews and Israel even at the freaking NIH (the National Institute of Health).

Ron T, , says: November 19, 2020 at 2:28 pm GMT • 7.3 days ago

Unquestioning and unequivocal support for Israel has become a part of the Republican platform, mostly a result of Evangelical Christians, a large denomination of dupes who believe that the modern state of Israel, established by European colonists in Palestine, is somehow related to the biblical Israel and biblical prophecy.

Jews voted the same way the have for generations as they are assured that Biden is going to provide unquestioning support to Israel too.

Their Jewish votes hardly matter as they are mostly concentrated in New York and California, which are not swing states. It is Jewish power in media and campaign donations that matter, which both candidates could not do without.

76239 , says: November 19, 2020 at 8:17 pm GMT • 7.1 days ago

"If Trump does, despite enormous odds, gain his second term, perhaps he will learn the lesson and treat Israel as Jewish Liberia. It would be a great relief for the US and for the people of Israel. Being cut off from the US supply pipeline, Israel may yet make peace with Palestinians and become a normal Middle Eastern state. The US won't be driven into far-away wars. It would be better if Trump had understood earlier, but better late than never"

I doubt this. The irony is that the same deep state that pushed regime change hook or crook in Bolivia, Iran, and Venezuela is the same deep state that pushed for regime change in the USA against Trump in 2016 (Russia controls Trump bs) and again with the voting fraud of 2020. And yet Trump seems to like regime change when it benefits his Israeli and Saudi patrons. You live by the sword; you die by the sword.

There is the well reasoned narrative that the last US president who took on the CIA with vengeance had his head blown apart in Dallas. The real power in Washington is with the merging of the military, intelligence, silicon valley tech community. The civilian leadership from both parties in the US are mere order takers from this oligarchy.

Government is just a means for the elite to impoverish the public and strip every liberty from them. They are not part of the answer. They are part of the problem.

Iva , says: November 19, 2020 at 11:46 pm GMT • 6.9 days ago

Trump condemns globalism, touts nationalistic view of foreign affairs at U.N."The future does not belong to globalists. The future belongs to patriots," Trump said. "The future belongs to sovereign and independent nations who protect their citizens, respect their neighbors and honor the differences that make each country special and unique." https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-touts-nationalistic-view-of-foreign-affairs-at-un/2019/09/24/e4a8486a-ded2-11e9-8fd3-d943b4ed57e0_story.html This is why Jews and pro globalists want Biden and Harris. Barbra Lerner Spectre speaks about multiculti and Israel expels black Jews giving them the one way tickets, because "they do not mix well with other Israelis' ' . Hypocrisy in full spectrum. They just want other countries ( not Israel) to lose their traditions, customs and values. When the society is divided and broken it is easier to rule throwing various groups against each other's throats. While groups fight with each other, they pursue their agendas unnoticed. Today Trump's lawyers were talking about lawyers who wanted to represent Trump getting threats, even death treats. How did this happen in the US? Who's "accomplishment" this is?

geokat62 , says: November 21, 2020 at 2:27 pm GMT • 5.3 days ago
@Occasional lurker ss="comment-text">

Mostly Jews vaguely support Israel For most liberal Jews, Israel is deep, deep down on their political agenda.

You must've missed this headline in the Jerusalem Post:

US Jews strongly support Israel, new poll shows

94% say that if Jewish state "no longer existed tomorrow," it would be a "tragedy."

https://m.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/US-Jews-strongly-support-Israel-new-poll-shows

anon [235] Disclaimer , says: November 22, 2020 at 3:53 pm GMT • 4.3 days ago
@Occasional lurker

Obama did a lot .He tolerated Israeli attacks on Gaza. He offered 40 billions worth of new dole to israel in exchange for Israel delaying the commission of the illegal activity ( postponing of the settlement for 3-4 month ).
He made sure Sisi was not opposed and Morsi was deposed . He got USA involved in Syria and tolerated open advocacy for war by AIPAC against Syria . He tolerated the opposition to Park 51 construction mounted by Neocons . In his time Islamophobia introduced by the neocons skyrocketed .
He campaigned for anti-American charlatan like Joe Liberman . Israel got him do a lot of damages to Iran economically and physically

Buzz Baldrin , says: November 23, 2020 at 8:39 am GMT • 3.6 days ago

I missed the part about Sheldon Adelson's series of campaign contributions to Trump

[Nov 26, 2020] Looks like neoliberalism has nowhere to go

Nov 26, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Nov 26 2020 18:13 utc | 18

vk @4: "As I've been observing since the last three years: the liberals (Democratic) don't seem to have any plans..."

Where can you go when you have reached The End of History ? Liberal capitalist ideology has gone as far as it can. Aside from spreading McDonalds and Walmart to every corner of the planet and getting everyone signed up for Netflix, what is there left to do?

[Nov 26, 2020] Exclusive -- Trump Lawyer Jenna Ellis Receives Threats- 'You Deserved to Be Raped'

Nov 26, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

anothervolley 12 hours ago • edited

Personal threats and intimidation don't come from good and rational people. They come from evil, hate-filled, and desperate people.

393 3 ReplyShare › Avatar Throwback 59 anothervolley 12 hours ago

so you mean liberal democrats.

[Nov 26, 2020] Big brother knows what is good for you: Twitter Blocks 'Potentially Harmful' Links to Sidney Powell Election Lawsuit

Nov 26, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Twitter is blocking users from sharing links to lawyer Sidney Powell's lawsuit relating to widespread voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential election.

A number of users across Twitter have reported being unable to share links to lawyer Sidney Powell's lawsuit relating to voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential election. When attempting to share the link to the document, users receive a notification stating that the link has been identified as "potentially harmful."

Sidney Powell lawsuits The Kraken is released on Georgia! The Kraken is released on Michigan!

[Nov 26, 2020] Of nothing else, Trump has brilliantly exposed the swamp. Even now regarding election fraud he is exposing it.

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Aristotle1 , says: November 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm GMT • 5.2 hours ago

@RoatanBill

... Trump has brilliantly exposed the swamp. Even now regarding election fraud he is exposing it. The CIA interfere all over the world even in literally fixing elections. There are forces even in the US that will intervene and brazenly disenfranchise and marginalise (and God knows what else) the people that they hate. Hopefully this situation is becoming clearer to "normies"

[Nov 26, 2020] Marxism was created by a Christian or at the very least a non-practicing Christian

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

chet roman , says: November 19, 2020 at 8:03 pm GMT • 7.1 days ago

@A123

Thanks, that's very interesting. I've read that Karl Marx came from a family of wealthy Jews that had a long line of prominent Rabbis but his father converted and became a Lutheran and raised Karl Marx as a Lutheran. So I assume that it would be accurate to say that Marxism was created by a Christian or at the very least a non-practicing Christian.

[Nov 26, 2020] Something about the level of Biden attraction for Bernie Sanders supporters

Let me quote Dmitry Orlov: " Biden is as fit to lead as a pig is kosher after rubbing its side against a corner of a synagogue." In no way borderline senile Biden appeals to the committed Sanders base.
Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Jake , says: November 26, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT • 5.7 hours ago

@Dumbo

The man is so very charming and charismatic, so mesmerizing. He's like a Rock Star among politicians. People line up by the tens of thousands hoping to get an autograph. He delights and draws people better than even Bill Clinton.

Only a Deplorable unworthy 0f having any voice could doubt that, publicly.

[Nov 26, 2020] If Trump does, despite enormous odds, gain his second term, perhaps he will learn the lesson and treat Israel as Jewish Liberia.

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Digital Samizdat , says: November 19, 2020 at 7:30 am GMT • 7.6 days ago

If Trump does, despite enormous odds, gain his second term, perhaps he will learn the lesson and treat Israel as Jewish Liberia.

I like that!

[Nov 26, 2020] Who's kidding who?

Nov 26, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

donten , Nov 26 2020 17:15 utc | 14

Biden: 'America Is Back,' 'Ready To Lead World'

USA won't even take care of its own people, and the world does not need a wannabe King of the Hill. Get ready for a complete tragedy...

Flournoy, Haines, and Haspel, who's kidding who?

[Nov 26, 2020] Face it, if you live in the US, you live in a totalitarian country a soft military / intel agency dictatorship and that's been the case since at least Eisenhower's time.

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Ugetit , says: November 26, 2020 at 12:51 pm GMT • 7.0 hours ago

Face it, if you live in the US, you live in a totalitarian country – a soft military / intel agency dictatorship and that's been the case since at least Eisenhower's time.

... What's worse is that approximately half the population seems to like it that way.

[Nov 26, 2020] Trump and "One flew over the cuckoo's nest".

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Cyrano , says: November 26, 2020 at 4:49 am GMT • 14.3 hours ago

At this point, it looks like Trump is going to be a one term president – unfortunately. With that in mind, perhaps the best metaphor for his presidency would be – to call it – "One flew over the cuckoo's nest". The cuckoo's nest being the country he was a president of – of course – full of cuckoos.

Beside that metaphor about the title, there are plenty of similarities between the contents of the book and the events and the players of the last 4 years of Trump's presidency.

Trump of course is Jack Nicholson – in a lunatic asylum – where he clearly doesn't belong. The sadistic nurse is again of course – the deep state – a control freak who wants to punish everybody – mainly the innocents.

The Chief – Jack Nicholson's friend, in the movie – in real life is being played by the American people – or more precisely, the deplorables. They can continue to play dumb until the very end, but eventually they'll have to find a titanic strength in order to break free from the lunatic asylum run by the sadistic nurse.

The moral of this story? Trump needs his native Indian friend's help in real life – although is probably too late for him, but at least the Chief and the rest of the deplorables from the asylum can be saved.

Thomasina , says: November 26, 2020 at 7:21 am GMT • 11.8 hours ago

Excellent movie, fantastic analogy. Didn't Nicholson at one point in the movie discover that the patients were "willingly" there? They were perfectly capable and able-bodied, and yet they willingly let Nurse Ratched call the shots. Great name – Nurse Ratched. Reminds me of Dicken's school superintendent in "Hard Times" – Mr. Thomas Gradgrind.

I wouldn't rule Trump out yet. The Saker spells out the court route, but A123 (above) correctly spells out the other route.

Stonehands , says: November 26, 2020 at 7:40 am GMT • 11.5 hours ago
@Cyrano

Great book. Even better analogy.

[Nov 26, 2020] The Ruling Elite's War on Truth by Chris Hedges

Notable quotes:
"... Trump and Giuliani are vulgar and buffoonish, but they play the same slimy game as their Democratic opponents. The Republicans scapegoat the deep state, communists and now, bizarrely, Venezuela; the Democrats scapegoat Russia. The widening disconnect from reality by the ruling elite is intended to mask their complicity in the seizure of power by predatory global corporations and billionaires. ..."
"... Silicon Valley billionaires, including Facebook cofounder Dustin Moskovitz and ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt, donated more than $100 million to a Democratic super PAC that created a torrent of anti-Trump TV ads in the final weeks of the campaign to elect Biden. The heavy infusion of corporate money to support Biden wasn't done to protect democracy. It was done because these corporations and billionaires know a Biden administration will serve their interests. ..."
"... Democratic Senator Chris Murphy told CNN during this campaign that Russian disinformation efforts are "more problematic" than in 2016. He warned that "this time around, the Russians have decided to cultivate U.S. citizens as assets. They are attempting to try to spread their propaganda in the mainstream media." ..."
"... This will be the official mantra of the Democratic Party, a vicious redbaiting campaign without actual reds, especially as the country spirals out of control. The reason I have a show on Russia-funded RT America ..."
"... Voice of America ..."
"... World Socialist Web Site, ..."
"... We let these companies get this monopolistic share of the distribution system. Now they're exercising that power. ..."
"... In the Soviet Union the truth was passed, often hand to hand, in underground samizdat documents, clandestine copies of news and literature banned by the state. The truth will endure. It will be heard by those who seek it out. It will expose the mendacity of the powerful, however hard it will be to obtain. Despotisms fear the truth. They know it is a mortal threat. If we remain determined to live in truth, no matter the cost, we have a chance. ..."
"... The New York Times, ..."
"... The Dallas Morning News ..."
"... The Christian Science Monitor ..."
Nov 23, 2020 | scheerpost.com
40 Comments on Chris Hedges: The Ruling Elite's War on Truth American political leaders display a widening disconnect from reality intended to mask their complicity in the seizure of power by global corporations and billionaires. By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost

Joe Biden's victory instantly obliterated the Democratic Party's longstanding charge that Russia was hijacking and compromising US elections. The Biden victory, the Democratic Party leaders and their courtiers in the media now insist, is evidence that the democratic process is strong and untainted, that the system works. The elections ratified the will of the people.

But imagine if Donald Trump had been reelected. Would the Democrats and pundits at The New York Time s , CNN and MSNBC pay homage to a fair electoral process? Or, having spent four years trying to impugn the integrity of the 2016 presidential race, would they once again haul out the blunt instrument of Russian interference to paint Trump as Vladimir Putin's Manchurian candidate?

Trump and Giuliani are vulgar and buffoonish, but they play the same slimy game as their Democratic opponents. The Republicans scapegoat the deep state, communists and now, bizarrely, Venezuela; the Democrats scapegoat Russia. The widening disconnect from reality by the ruling elite is intended to mask their complicity in the seizure of power by predatory global corporations and billionaires.

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The two warring factions within the ruling elite, which fight primarily over the spoils of power while abjectly serving corporate interests, peddle alternative realities. If the deep state and Venezuelan socialists or Russia intelligence operatives are pulling the strings no one in power is accountable for the rage and alienation caused by the social inequality, the unassailability of corporate power, the legalized bribery that defines our political process, the endless wars, austerity and de-industrialization. The social breakdown is, instead, the fault of shadowy phantom enemies manipulating groups such as Black Lives Matters or the Green Party.

"The people who run this country have run out of workable myths with which to distract the public, and in a moment of extreme crisis have chosen to stoke civil war and defame the rest of us – black and white – rather than admit to a generation of corruption, betrayal, and mismanagement," Matt Taibbi writes.

These fictional narratives are dangerous. They erode the credibility of democratic institutions and electoral politics. They posit that news and facts are no longer true or false. Information is accepted or discarded based on whether it hurts or promotes one faction over another. While outlets such as Fox News have always existed as an arm of the Republican Party, this partisanship has now infected nearly all news organizations, including publications such as The New York Times and The Washington Post , along with the major tech platforms that disseminate information and news. A fragmented public with no common narrative believes whatever it wants to believe.

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The flagrant partisanship and discrediting of truth across the political spectrum are swiftly fueling the rise of an authoritarian state. The credibility of democratic institutions and electoral politics, already deeply corrupted by PACs, the electoral college, lobbyists, the disenfranchisement of third-party candidates, gerrymandering and voter suppression, is being eviscerated.

Silicon Valley billionaires, including Facebook cofounder Dustin Moskovitz and ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt, donated more than $100 million to a Democratic super PAC that created a torrent of anti-Trump TV ads in the final weeks of the campaign to elect Biden. The heavy infusion of corporate money to support Biden wasn't done to protect democracy. It was done because these corporations and billionaires know a Biden administration will serve their interests.

The press, meanwhile, has largely given up on journalism. It has retreated into competing echo chambers that only speak to true believers. This catering exclusively to one demographic, which it sets against another demographic, is commercially profitable. But it also guarantees the balkanization of the United States and edges us closer and closer to fratricide.

When Trump leaves the White House millions of his enraged supports, hermetically sealed inside hyperventilating media platforms that feed back to them their rage and hate, will see the vote as fraudulent, the political system as rigged, and the establishment press as propaganda. They will target, I fear, through violence, the Democratic Party politicians, mainstream media outlets and those they demonize as conspiratorial members of the deep state, such as Dr. Anthony Fauci. The Democratic Party is as much to blame for this disintegration as Trump and the Republican Party.

The election of Biden is also very bad news for journalists such as Matt Taibbi, Glen Ford, Margaret Kimberley, Glenn Greenwald, Jeffrey St. Clair or Robert Scheer who refuse to be courtiers to the ruling elites. Journalists that do not spew the approved narrative of the right-wing, or, alternatively, the approved narrative of the Democratic Party, have a credibility the ruling elite fears.

The worse things get – and they will get worse as the pandemic leaves hundreds of thousands dead and thrusts millions of Americans into severe economic distress –the more those who seek to hold the ruling elites, and in particular the Democratic Party, accountable will be targeted and censored in ways familiar to WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, now in a London prison and facing possible extradition to the United States and life imprisonment.

Barack Obama's assault on civil liberties, which included the repeated misuse of the Espionage Act to prosecute whistleblowers, the passage of Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) to permit the military to act as a domestic police force and the ordering of the assassination of U.S. citizens deemed to be terrorists in Yemen, was far worse than those of George W. Bush. Biden's assault on civil liberties, I suspect, will surpass those of the Obama administration.

The censorship was heavy handed during the campaign. Digital media platforms, including Google, Twitter, YouTube and Facebook, along with the establishment press worked shamelessly as propaganda arms for the Biden campaign. They were determined not to make the "mistake" they made in 2016 when they reported on the damaging emails, released by WikiLeaks, from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta. Although the emails were genuine, papers such as The New York Times routinely refer to the Podesta emails as "disinformation." This, no doubt, pleases its readership, 91 percent of whom identify as Democrats according to the Pew Research Center. But it is another example of journalistic malfeasance.

Following the election of Trump, the media outlets that cater to a Democratic Party readership made amends. The New York Times was one of the principal platforms that amplified Russiagate conspiracies, most of which turned out to be false. At the same time, the paper largely ignored the plight of the disposed working class that supported Trump. When the Russiagate story collapsed, the paper pivoted to focus on race, embodied in the 1619 Project. The root cause of social disintegration -- the neoliberal order, austerity and deindustrialization -- was ignored since naming it would alienate the paper's corporate advertisers and the elites on whom the paper depends for access.

Once the 2020 election started, The New York Times and other mainstream outlets censored and discredited information that could hurt Biden, including a tape of Joe Biden speaking with former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, which appears to be authentic. They gave credibility to any rumor, however spurious, which was unfavorable to Trump. Twitter and Facebook blocked access to a New York Post story about the emails allegedly found on Hunter Biden's discarded laptop.

Twitter locked the New York Post out of its own account for over a week. Glenn Greenwald, whose article on Hunter Biden was censored by his editors at The Intercept, which he helped found, resigned. He released the email exchanges with his editors over his article. Ignoring the textual evidence of censorship, editors and writers at The Intercept engaged in a public campaign of character assassination against Greenwald. This sordid behavior by self-identified progressive journalists is a page out of the Trump playbook and a sad commentary on the collapse of journalistic integrity.

The censorship and manipulation of information was honed and perfected against WikiLeaks. When WikiLeaks tries to release information, it is hit with botnets or distributed denial of service attacks. Malware attacks WikiLeaks' domain and website. The WikiLeaks site is routinely shut down or unable to serve its content to its readers. Attempts by WikiLeaks to hold press conferences see the audio distorted and the visual images corrupted. Links to WikiLeaks events are delayed or cut. Algorithms block the dissemination of WikiLeaks content. Hosting services, including Amazon, removed WikiLeaks from its servers. Julian Assange, after releasing the Iraqi war logs, saw his bank accounts and credit cards frozen. WikiLeaks' PayPal accounts were disabled to cut off donations. The Freedom of the Press Foundation in December 2017 closed down the anonymous funding channel to WikiLeaks which was set up to protect the anonymity of donors. A well-orchestrated smear campaign against Assange was amplified and given credibility by the mass media and filmmakers such as Alex Gibney. Assange and WikiLeaks were first. We are next.

Democratic Senator Chris Murphy told CNN during this campaign that Russian disinformation efforts are "more problematic" than in 2016. He warned that "this time around, the Russians have decided to cultivate U.S. citizens as assets. They are attempting to try to spread their propaganda in the mainstream media."

This will be the official mantra of the Democratic Party, a vicious redbaiting campaign without actual reds, especially as the country spirals out of control. The reason I have a show on Russia-funded RT America is the same reason Vaclav Havel could only be heard on the US-funded Voice of America during the communist control of Czechoslovakia. I did not choose to leave the mainstream media. I was pushed out. And once anyone is pushed out, the ruling elite is relentless about discrediting the few platforms left willing to give them, and the issues they raise, a hearing.

"If the problem is 'American citizens' being cultivated as 'assets' trying to put 'interference' in the mainstream media, the logical next step is to start asking Internet platforms to shut down accounts belonging to any American journalist with the temerity to report material leaked by foreigners (the wrong foreigners, of course – it will continue to be okay to report things like the 'black ledger')," writes Taibbi , who has done some of the best reporting on the emerging censorship. "From Fox or the Daily Caller on the right , to left-leaning outlets like Consortium or the World Socialist Web Site, to writers like me even – we're all now clearly in range of new speech restrictions, even if we stick to long-ago-established factual standards."

Taibbi argues that the precedent for overt censorship took place when the major digital platforms – Facebook, Twitter, Google, Spotify, YouTube – in a coordinated move blacklisted the right-wing talk show host Alex Jones.

"Liberal America cheered," Taibbi told me when I interviewed him for my show, " On Contact ":

They said 'Well this is a noxious figure. This is a great thing. Finally, someone's taking action.' What they didn't realize is that we were trading an old system of speech regulation for a new one without any public discussion. You and I were raised in a system where you got punished for speech if you committed libel or slander or if there was imminent incitement to lawless action, right? That was the standard that the Supreme Court set, but that was done through litigation. There was an open process where you had a chance to rebut charges. That is all gone now.

Now, basically there's a handful of these tech distribution platforms that control how people get their media.

They've been pressured by the Senate, which has called all of their CEOs in, and basically ordered them, 'We need you to come up with a plan to prevent the sowing of discord and spreading of misinformation.' This has finally come into fruition. You see a major reputable news organization like the New York Post -- with a 200-year history -- locked out of its own Twitter account.

The story [Hunter Biden's emails] has not been disproven. It's not disinformation or misinformation. It's been suppressed as it would be suppressed in a Third World country. It's a remarkable historic moment. The danger is that we end up with a one-party informational system. There's going to be approved dialogue and unapproved dialogue that you can only get through certain fringe avenues. That's the problem. We let these companies get this monopolistic share of the distribution system. Now they're exercising that power.

In the Soviet Union the truth was passed, often hand to hand, in underground samizdat documents, clandestine copies of news and literature banned by the state. The truth will endure. It will be heard by those who seek it out. It will expose the mendacity of the powerful, however hard it will be to obtain. Despotisms fear the truth. They know it is a mortal threat. If we remain determined to live in truth, no matter the cost, we have a chance.


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Chris Hedges Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist who was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years for The New York Times, where he served as the Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief for the paper. He previously worked overseas for The Dallas Morning News , The Christian Science Monitor , and NPR. He is the host of the Emmy Award-nominated RT America show On Contact. paul easton NOVEMBER 23, 2020 AT 10:28 AM

It seems like the masters are just as deluded as the slaves. But the situation is unsustainable. When many millions of slaves become homeless and hungry that reality will become unavoidable. Who will they blame? Will they attack one another or will they revolt against the system? Soon we will see. Carolyn L Zaremba NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 10:30 AM

I share only alternative media since I don't trust "mainstream" media one iota. I post articles from the World Socialist Web Site, Consortium News, the Grayzone, Caitlin Johnstone and others all the time. I am a socialist. I was only banned from posting on FB once, for criticizing Israel. No surprise there. But I suspect FB of shadow banning, i.e., making it look like you've posted an article but making it invisible to others in their news feeds. I first learned of this practice from Craig Murray, another whose articles I post regularly. paul easton NOVEMBER 25, 2020 AT 1:35 AM

That is a chilling thought. I was shadow banned by medium.com a few years ago. It appeared to me that my posts and comments went in, but no one else could see them. At least with them I could tell something was wrong because I had regular conversations with some people. With FB I don't know if you could ever be sure. R Zwarich NOVEMBER 25, 2020 AT 5:37 AM

Mr. Easton is indeed correct. It is VERY chilling, especially if people would imagine what THEY would do, if they had our Enemy's morally depraved motivations, and if they had the control our Enemy has over ALL our communications switches.

There are three basic types of mass communications. One to many. Many to one. And many to many.

The Enemy has complete access to 'one to many' communications, and complete control over anyone's else's access to same. Many to one communications are ineffective for intrinsic reasons. Many to many communications offer myriad methods of cunningly creative control.

If we send out group emails, for example, in simple old-fashioned list-serves, they who control the switches could easily 'filter', to determine who among addressees gets any message, and who doesn't.

I used to write comments in the Boston Globe, the wholly owned plaything of a VERY weird old Billionaire and his proud and beautiful young trophy wife. (Less than half his age, of course). At first I thought the Globe NEVER censored. I could write anything, and it would post. Ahh but then I learned that the Globe is a HEAVY handed censor, but was clever enough to put a 'cookie' in your browser folder to tell their server to let you see your own comments, so you would not even know that no one else could see them. It was 'stealth censorship'.

We should try to remember that these people are morally depraved, in their constant paroxysms of raw Greed and raw Lust. No force exists any longer in our nation to restrain them. Anything we can 'see' that they CAN do, we can pretty much figure they already DO do, or else sooner or later will. Carol Shapiro NOVEMBER 23, 2020 AT 1:44 PM

While I don't agree with you, Chris Hedges, all the time, I believe you are our one. true. journalist. Thankful for your honesty. Insight. Huge intellect. Global experience. I am an "unenrolled" voter -- an extremely disillusioned former Bernie Sanders supporter. Truly, I feel like he would have been our closest attempt to achieving a real "citizen government". What a laughable term that is these days. Bernie never would have had a chance running as a Democrat – absurd. He should have walked out of that convention four years ago and taken his supporters with him. Oh wait- you said that. Never NOVEMBER 23, 2020 AT 2:59 PM

Don't forget that the selective coverage by the NY Times in this campaign didn't start when Biden became the nominee. Up to that time, the Times ran one or two articles on Sanders it seems. Whatever the number, it was miniscule. They almost completely ignored one of the most significant campaigns in modern history, thus helping to ensure it died on the vine. And when they did cover it one or two times, it was always negative.

Thank you, Chris, for your tireless work in defense of our stolen democracy. yuri NOVEMBER 23, 2020 AT 4:37 PM

US liberals more fascist than conservatives–long observed by historians/social philosophers
"amerikans do not converse as Tocqueville wrote, amerikans entertain each other. amerikans do not exchange ideas, they exchange images. the problem w amerikans is not Orwellian–it is huxleyan: amerikans love their oppression: Neil Postman Stephen Morrell NOVEMBER 24, 2020 AT 1:18 AM

Glenn Greenwald's points need stressing: (i) some of the most vociferous proponents of online censorship are mainstream and 'alternative' 'journalists' who on repeated occasions have egged on the carriers to shut sites, pages, accounts or postings; (ii) these 'journalists' aren't just serving the narrowest band of oligarchic media empires in history, but also are ivy-league bourgeois brats with no interest at all in exposing the injustices or malfeasance of bourgeois society, unlike many journalists of the past; and (iii) that it's not in the immediate material interests of the carriers to conduct the censorship, especially in the longterm, since it consumes resources and lowers traffic and profits. They'd much rather the government do it and for them to be compensated at taxpayer expense.

To avoid future potential government antitrust measures or nationalisation (heaven forbid!), Zuckerberg and his ilk have been censoring in heavyhanded and hamfisted ways that aren't so 'autonomous' but for the moment at least can be traced along the usual Democrat-controlled thinktank and CIA/FBI lines, which of course also are beyond public scrutiny. Despite the prospects for freedom of reach (and reach is what it's really about) apparently growing dimmer with each senate committee appearance by the carrier oligarchs, ways and means will be found to circumvent their draconian measures. While alternative non-censoring platforms have yet to gain significant traction, it likely won't take much for one to catch on, perhaps sparked by an outrageous event of suppression, that turns Facebook, Twitter, etc, into museum pieces. One might imagine, for instance, Wikileaks-style YouTube, Facebook, Twitter equivalents that act as true carriers, purely machine-based and devoid of human interference, that precludes them becoming the 'moral guardians' that Twitter, Facebook etc, are quickly metamorphising into.

As increasing swathes of the population appear not to be aligning within the bourgeoisie's preset ideological 'tribal' boundaries, there's a certain schadenfreude in seeing the rulers in dread of the truth getting out and spreading uncontrollably. Their tailored counter-narratives simply are too enfeebled and slight to square with the hard reality that's hitting everyone, from the most educated and brainwashed to the least. That ivy-league stenographers are being pressed into the service of censorship gives some indication of the desperation of the rulers. We all know, as do they but can never admit it publicly, that censorship and repression are frank admissions that they've lost all 'arguments' for their very existence.

To an extent, Trump has been responsible for letting the genie out of the bottle, as the first president probably since before Andrew Jackson to have failed, repeatedly, to put lipstick on the racist, capitalist imperial pig. The efforts by the ruling class at censorship and naked suppression of freedom of reach and of access to sources of truthful information will only increase in desperation as their myth-making narratives become ever more unable to rationalise a crisis that's they're beginning to see as intractable and endangering their rule.

[Nov 26, 2020] Propaganda, Election Fraud and the Death of Journalism

Nov 26, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

COMMENTARY

By Frank Miele
RealClearPolitics

Easy question: Is it illegal to steal an election or not?

You would have to assume that it is no big deal based on the response to claims of widespread fraud in the contest between President Trump and Joe Biden. Big Media says the evidence just doesn't exist, and most Americans seem to be lost in a blue haze of blind acceptance that whatever they are told by the talking heads on TV must be true.

This kind of unthinking obedience to authority is a frightening harbinger of an America that is no longer a nation of laws, but rather a nation of edicts. You can already see that unfolding in the sheep-like acceptance of COVID-19 restrictions that blatantly ignore the Constitution. But if you dare do your own independent assessment of facts -- whether regarding the efficacy of mask use in preventing spread of coronavirus or regarding the security of electronic voting -- you will quickly come to a different conclusion than that which is approved by Big Tech, Big Media and Big Money.

Unfortunately, most people don't take the time to do their own research. They simply believe whatever is told to them. For those in thrall to the establishment media, that means they believe that Trump's allegations of election fraud are "baseless." Remember, the media made that declaration within hours of the election, long before any evidence had been presented in a court of law and before analysis had begun on the raw vote totals. Once that narrative was established, it didn't matter how many affidavits were presented, how many witnesses came forward, or how much analysis suggested that the vote count may have been manipulated. The jury of the American people had already been tainted by Big Media to believe the narrative that Trump is a sore loser.

Don't forget, the mainstream media -- in the interests of public enlightenment (now known as wokeness) -- have spent the past four years reporting as fact that the duly elected president of the United States is a liar, a tax cheat, a Russian puppet, and a racist. In other words, he is a con man who never should have been anywhere near the Oval Office in the first place. So why would anyone now believe his claims that Democrats used phony mail ballots, vote-counting software and foreign manipulation to steal the election? Most of the media is pretending that there is not even a real story to report in what, if true, would be one of the gravest constitutional crises in the history of our republic.

As Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said in his press conference Thursday, "The coverage of this has been almost as dishonest as the scheme itself. The American people are entitled to know this," he warned the press. "You don't have a right to keep it from them. You don't have a right to lie about it."

But, the newsrooms at CNN and MSNBC are keeping it from the public. They refused to even carry Giuliani's press conference laying out the evidence of election fraud. As for Fox News, they covered it, and then put a reporter on the air to say the claims were "simply not true" or "baseless." Clearly, we are not going to get the truth from the media. Has there been even one reporter for a mainstream outlet such as the Washington Post asking questions about the vulnerability of electronic voting systems to hacking or manipulation? Is any news organization demanding that the Justice Department or FBI get to the bottom of the story?

The loss of a free and neutral press means that democracy cannot work even if its elections were completely above board. The capacity of the people to self-govern is dependent on their access to true and accurate information. Sadly, the opposite principle applies as well. When journalism abandons objectivity in favor of an agenda, then the people are in the position of cattle being led to slaughter.

Thomas Jefferson described the abuses of a free press in 1814 in a letter to his friend Walter Jones:

"I deplore the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed and the malignity, the vulgarity and the mendacious spirit of those who write for them These ordures are rapidly depraving the public taste and lessening its relish for sound food. As vehicles of information and a curb on our functionaries, they have rendered themselves useless by forfeiting all title to belief This has, in a great degree, been produced by the violence and malignity of party spirit."

Ouch! Take that, New York Times! Take that, CNN!

Of course, it is just such a malign "party spirit" that informs almost all mainstream journalism in the Age of Trump -- a spirit that is visible in the hostility towards Trump himself, but also in the accommodation towards Democrats such as Joe Biden. Last Monday's Biden press conference was a stunning abdication of responsibility by the media for its much-vaunted role of "speaking truth to power" -- or at least asking tough questions.

Three of the first four queries were merely anti-Trump questions asked in a new way. Instead of asking Trump "How do you justify your unprecedented attempt to obstruct and delay a smooth transfer of power?" the reporters merely asked Biden what he thought about Trump's "unprecedented attempt" blah blah blah. Then the next three questions were about COVID, which after six months of campaigning, even Sleepy Joe Biden could answer with his eyes closed.

Isn't the media going to hold Biden accountable just like they claimed to hold Trump accountable? Why not ask about the curious patterns of vote counting in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Georgia that make millions of people think Biden tried to steal the election? Shouldn't he be asked to support a full investigation to prove his victory was legitimate? How about a question about whether Hunter Biden will come out of hiding now that the election is over? How about asking the "president-in-waiting" to condemn the BLM and antifa violence that sent several innocent Trump supporters to the hospital two weeks ago?

How about our celebrity journalists celebrate their own crucial role as defenders of democracy? If they don't want to "render themselves useless," they need to swear allegiance to facts, wherever they lead, and not to one party. Or as Sen. John Kennedy of Louisiana put it more indelicately, "They have to be equal opportunity assholes."

But they aren't -- and sooner or later the American people will get tired of being manipulated. Journalism is supposed to give an honest account of the facts so that people can make up their own minds what they believe to be true. Propaganda, on the other hand, is a dishonest attempt to persuade people not to examine the facts for themselves. Journalism starts with facts and allows people to reach their own conclusion. Propaganda starts with a conclusion and manipulates people into accepting it as fact. You can decide for yourself whether what we have today is journalism or propaganda.

But the bottom line is this: Whether or not Donald Trump can prove his case in court should be irrelevant to the job of the press. What honest reporters ought to recognize is the significance of the allegation itself, the historical nature of the crime being alleged, and the importance to the future of our republic that the case must be heard.

Too bad there are so few honest reporters left.

[Nov 26, 2020] Biden supporters are like Christmas lights,,,... Half of them don't work,, and the other half aren't too bright...!!!

Nov 26, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Rosanna Flores
, 3 days ago

Biden supporters are like Christmas lights,,,... Half of them don't work,, and the other half aren't too bright...!!!

[Nov 26, 2020] I would love to see a 2022 campaign start in which people put giant road facing signs in graveyards that say "WE VOTED FOR BIDEN"

Nov 26, 2020 | www.youtube.com

John Cawthron , 16 hours ago

I would love to see a campaign started where people put giant road facing signs in graveyards that say "WE VOTED FOR BIDEN" "AND BOY WERE WE SURPRISED!!"

[Nov 26, 2020] Easy question: Is it illegal to steal an election or not?

Nov 26, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

You would have to assume that it is no big deal based on the response to claims of widespread fraud in the contest between President Trump and Joe Biden. Big Media says the evidence just doesn't exist, and most Americans seem to be lost in a blue haze of blind acceptance that whatever they are told by the talking heads on TV must be true.

This kind of unthinking obedience to authority is a frightening harbinger of an America that is no longer a nation of laws, but rather a nation of edicts.

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[Nov 25, 2020] Splitting the public up into two oppositional factions who barely interact and can't even communicate with each other because they don't share a common reality keeps the populace impotent, ignorant, and powerless to stop the unfolding of the agendas of the powerful.

Highly recommended!
Nov 25, 2020 | caitlinjohnstone.com


NEWTON FINN
/ NOVEMBER 24, 2020

"Splitting the public up into two oppositional factions who barely interact and can't even communicate with each other because they don't share a common reality keeps the populace impotent, ignorant, and powerless to stop the unfolding of the agendas of the powerful."

Surely so. But I'm not sure whether this was deliberately planned by the plutocrats as a political strategy, or whether this bifurcation spontaneously emerged from tech company algorithms designed only to increase their profits.

Clearly, the plutocrats have seized upon this bifurcation to keep the populace divided and engaged in a kind of civil war, but it's sort of like the pandemic – was it a plot hatched or an opportunity exploited?

This might not seem to matter at this point, but IMHO the answer helps to determine not only what we're up against but also the best ways to fight the bastards.

SHOCKER / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

https://www.wakingtimes.com/tyranny-standing-rock-govt-divide-conquer-strategy-work/
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"Divide and conquer.
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"It's one of the oldest military strategies in the books, and it's proven to be the police state's most effective weapon for maintaining the status quo.
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"How do you conquer a nation?
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"Distract them with football games, political circuses and Black Friday sales. Keep them focused on their differences -- economic, religious, environmental, political, racial [gender- pandemic] -- so they can never agree on anything. And then, when they're so divided that they are incapable of joining forces against a common threat, start picking them off one by one."

JWK / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

"We live in different information universes, chosen for us by algorithms whose only criterion is how to maximise our attention for advertisers' products to generate greater profits for the internet giants,"
Which precisely explains how we got the recent POTUS candidates, displayed as the "best and brightest". Really? That's the best they have? You can look across the board at ALL of the two party's leadership and get the same picture. These are far from the "best and brightest". They may be bright, since psychopaths are often quite intelligent, but they certainly have zero qualification for best.

KHATIKA / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

Regardless. The democrats ignored people like Tulsi Gabbard and Sanders to flock to Biden. This is just a sign of how brainwashed the people have become. The propaganda is working quite well.


ANARCISSIE
/ NOVEMBER 24, 2020

This raises the question of why these people were selected. I think Trump sabotaged the Republican fix for 2016 by exploiting weaknesses in its pseudodemocratic primary structure, but the choice of Biden is hard to figure from any angle. Someone should investigate. About a year ago I was conversing with some deplorables about Biden and a perfectly intelligent young Black woman hotly defended him against all criticism. Anita Hill, the crime bill, the invasion of Iraq, his creepiness, just bounced off her shell. How do people get this way?

JULIUS SKOOLAFISH / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

in passing
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WESTERN VALUES™ . The country that judges other countries' elections just had an election. Somebody won. One day a court will tell us who. Apparently counting votes is a tremendously difficult task, requiring enormous amounts of time.
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http://russiahouse.org/current_news.php?language=eng&id_current=3183
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See also (via Fort Russ – Matthew Ehret)

RON CAMPBELL / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

Ah, Ms Johnstone, my fellow United States citizens love their " echo chamber comas " because it allows them to completely suppress any and all logic, justice, empathy, and shame for the blood-thirsty Evil Empire that they cherish and support. The Evil Empire has no soul at all; and it requires its subjects to be soul-less as well. Resistance is futile!

[Nov 25, 2020] What We Know About Sidney Powell by Jeremy W. Peters

Nov 25, 2020 | www.nytimes.com

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Ms. Powell did not have much of a reputation in conservative legal circles until last year when she took on the case of Michael T. Flynn, Mr. Trump's first national security adviser, who had pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. but later sought to withdraw his plea. The case became something of a cause célèbre among many Trump loyalists, who have long insisted that the president and his allies were the target of nefarious "deep state" law enforcement and intelligence officials.

Ms. Powell, a native North Carolinian who began her legal career as an assistant federal prosecutor in Texas, certainly believed that. And through her aggressive defense of Mr. Flynn -- she often used incendiary rhetoric, accusing the F.B.I. of committing "atrocities" against her client -- she became an admired figure on the right and a frequent guest on conservative radio and television programs.

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In a statement to The New York Times earlier this year, Ms. Powell said she had long considered "prosecutorial misconduct and overreach" a problem. Conspiracies within the American government have been a preoccupation of hers for some time: In 2014 she self-published a book that purports to be a seminal work in "exposing 'the Deep State.'"

The book arose from her work in private practice, where she spent years representing defendants in the Enron financial scandal, including the accounting firm Arthur Andersen and James A. Brown, a former executive at Merrill Lynch. During that time she began to impugn the motives of one of the federal prosecutors on the case, Andrew Weissmann, who went on to be a member of the special counsel team under Robert S. Mueller III, who led the investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.

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In an interview last week on the top-rated "Rush Limbaugh Show" -- in which she spoke for nearly 20 minutes and faced no skepticism from the guest host, Mark Steyn -- Ms. Powell claimed that the voting machines in question had been designed to rig elections for the former ruler of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, who died in 2013. They were "so hackable a 15-year-old could do it," she said. And she cited unnamed "math experts" she had supposedly consulted who told her how an algorithm added votes for President Trump to Joseph R. Biden Jr.'s totals.

In an interview the day before on Fox Business, Ms. Powell also said the conspiracy involved "dead people" who voted "in massive numbers" -- again offering no proof -- and described how fraudulent paper ballots were also part of the scheme.

Speaking early last week to the right-wing radio host Mark Levin, who has the fourth-largest audience in talk radio, Ms. Powell said she had obtained an affidavit from someone purportedly present when the scheme was hatched by pro-Chávez forces in Venezuela to rig his elections.

Because of her involvement in the Flynn case, the pro-Trump media often presented her as an expert with unimpeachable credentials.

"Sidney Powell is no joke," declared one Breitbart article published last week, which mentioned her early career as a federal prosecutor and her work for Mr. Flynn. Mr. Limbaugh, too, told his audience last week that he seriously doubts she would be putting her credibility on the line if she hadn't uncovered serious wrongdoing.

Other Trump allies were less convinced that her claims should be taken seriously. Tucker Carlson of Fox News said last week that when he pressed Ms. Powell, she failed to produce any evidence to support the elaborate conspiracy she purported to have uncovered. His dissent was not appreciated by the president's defenders, or by Ms. Powell, who said Mr. Carlson had been "very insulting, demanding and rude" to her.

Despite initial praise from the president, who announced less than two weeks ago that she had been added to his team of "wonderful lawyers," it was never clear during her brief time with the campaign what her job was supposed to be. Her efforts on behalf of the Trump campaign appeared to be largely limited to public relations She has defended the president and attacked the integrity of the vote solely on Twitter, on television and at news conferences, acting more as a publicity agent than a lawyer.

She has said she plans to file a suit in Georgia but hasn't yet. It is unclear whether that work will continue now that the Trump campaign has cut her loose.

Jeremy W. Peters covers national politics. His other assignments in his decade at The Times have included covering the financial markets, the media, New York politics and two presidential campaigns. He is also an MSNBC contributor.

[Nov 25, 2020] A complete schism from reality by Caitlin Johnstone

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Because people are a lot more likely to click, read and share information which validates their pre-existing opinions and follow people who do the same, social media is notorious for the way it creates tightly insulated echo chambers which masturbate our confirmation bias and hide any information which might cause us cognitive dissonance by contradicting it. Whole media careers were built on this phenomenon during the years of Russiagate hysteria, and we see it play out in spheres from imperialism to Covid-19 commentary to economic policy. ..."
"... Someone benefits from this dynamic, and it isn't you. As we've discussed previously, we know from WikiLeaks documents that powerful people actively seek to build ideological echo chambers for the purpose of propaganda and indoctrination, and there is surely a lot more study going into the subject than we've seen been shown. Splitting the public up into two oppositional factions who barely interact and can't even communicate with each other because they don't share a common reality keeps the populace impotent, ignorant, and powerless to stop the unfolding of the agendas of the powerful. ..."
"... It's just people manipulating you away from your natural, healthy inclination toward peace. Get out of your echo chamber, look at the raw information instead of the narratives, and stop letting the sociopaths manipulate you. ..."
"... Hate is the only thing that holds the American Empire together. Without its Two Minutes of Hate, America will break up apart into a million pieces. ..."
Nov 25, 2020 | caitlinjohnstone.com

This Is Your Brain On Echo Chambers -- Right Calls Biden A Xi Puppet As He Packs His Cabinet With China Hawks – by Caitlin Johnston

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This complete schism from reality, where you've got an incoming administration stacked with Beltway insiders who want to attack Chinese interests running alongside an alternate imaginary universe in which Biden is a subservient CCP lackey, is only made possible with the existence of media echo chambers. It's the same exact dynamic that made it possible for liberals to spend four years shrieking conspiracy theories about the executive branch of the US government being run by a literal Russian agent even as Trump advanced mountains of world-threatening cold war escalations against Moscow in the real world.

You see this dynamic at work in conventional media, where plutocrat-controlled outlets like Breitbart are still frantically pushing the Russiagate sequel narrative that Hunter Biden's activities in China mean that his father is a CCP asset. You also see it in social media, where, as explained by journalist Jonathan Cook in an article about the documentary The Social Dilemma , "as we get herded into our echo chambers of self-reinforcing information, we lose more and more sense of the real world and of each other."

"We live in different information universes, chosen for us by algorithms whose only criterion is how to maximise our attention for advertisers' products to generate greater profits for the internet giants," writes Cook.

Because people are a lot more likely to click, read and share information which validates their pre-existing opinions and follow people who do the same, social media is notorious for the way it creates tightly insulated echo chambers which masturbate our confirmation bias and hide any information which might cause us cognitive dissonance by contradicting it. Whole media careers were built on this phenomenon during the years of Russiagate hysteria, and we see it play out in spheres from imperialism to Covid-19 commentary to economic policy.

Someone benefits from this dynamic, and it isn't you. As we've discussed previously, we know from WikiLeaks documents that powerful people actively seek to build ideological echo chambers for the purpose of propaganda and indoctrination, and there is surely a lot more study going into the subject than we've seen been shown. Splitting the public up into two oppositional factions who barely interact and can't even communicate with each other because they don't share a common reality keeps the populace impotent, ignorant, and powerless to stop the unfolding of the agendas of the powerful.

You should not be afraid of your government being too nice to China. What you should worry about is the US-centralized power alliance advancing a multifront new cold war conducted simultaneously against two nuclear-armed nations for the first time ever in human history. There are far, far too many small moving parts in such a cold war for things to happen in a safely predictable manner, which means there are far, far too many chances for something to go very, very wrong.

Whenever someone tells you that a US president is going to be "soft" on a nation the US government has marked as an enemy, you are being played. Always, always, always, always. It's just people manipulating you away from your natural, healthy inclination toward peace. Get out of your echo chamber, look at the raw information instead of the narratives, and stop letting the sociopaths manipulate you.

By Caitlin Johnstone , an independent journalist based in Melbourne, Australia. Her website is here and you can follow her on Twitter @caitoz


USA-MA BIN LADEN / NOVEMBER 25, 2020

America desperately needs its Two Minutes of Hate against other countries like a meth addict needs his next hit.

Hate is the only thing that holds the American Empire together. Without its Two Minutes of Hate, America will break up apart into a million pieces.

Deep down, Americans know that – and that is why they so readily engage in these spittle-flecked campaigns.

Welcome to the Orwellian world of America where the same American Empire that bombs, invades, sanctions, regime changes, encircles, or colonizes multiple nations around the world whines like a triggered little snowflake that poor innocent war criminal America is being "threatened"!

Truly pathetic.

CHRISTIAN J. CHUBA / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

There are many good websites (in addition to this one of course). I'd always tell someone, just look to see what speaks to you my list some are 'out there' I'll summarize.

  1. https://www.antiwar.com/ – Kind of like a drudgereport for decent people on world events. They go through the effort of summarizing AP and other official news outlet stories rather than mindlessly link to them. Just hearing the same stories minus the slavish propaganda will deprogram many people.
  2. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/author/ppillar/ – Ron Pillar, I'm a groupie. Does investigative journalism, along the lines of Cailtlin.
  3. https://thegrayzone.com/ – Max Blumenthal contributes here, U.S. imperialism in South America.
  4. https://www.mintpressnews.com/ – M.E., Yemen, if your friend is very sensitive to anything that insinuates that Israel is not the celestial city he might be offended.
  5. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/author/daniel-larison/ – If your friend has a conservative bent, foreign policy restraint. This Larison is passionately against our atrocities in Yemen but polite about it.
  6. https://southfront.org/ – Ah .. on our State Dept list of Russian disinfo. Discuss military conflicts, sympathetic to the countries at the receiving end of our attention.
  7. http://thesaker.is/ – Saker was an intel guy from the 'other side' during the Cold War, values decency, Orthodox Christian, only site that regularly publishes speeches from Nasrallah, does military analysis, arrogant but I always feel like I learned something.
  8. http://www.moonofalabama.org – anonymous analyst, German Intel guy, writes very well. I put him last because he has been on a pro-Trump binge lately. I think they are secret lovers. Given what he normally writes about I have no idea what he sees in him.
CAITLIN JOHNSTONE (AUTHOR) / NOVEMBER 25, 2020

"I listen to the entire political spectrum, from Republican warmongering corporatists all the way to Democratic warmongering corporatists!"

[Nov 25, 2020] New York Times job listing shows how Western propaganda operates by Caitlin Johnstone -

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Once you've learned a bit more you realize it's not quite happening that way. Most mainstream news reporters are not really witting propagandists – those are to be found more in plutocrat-funded think tanks and other narrative management firms, and in the opaque government agencies which feed news media outlets information designed to advance their interests. The predominant reason mainstream news reporters say things that aren't true is because in order to be hired by mainstream news outlets, you need to jack your mind into a power-serving worldview that is not based in truth. ..."
"... Mainstream establishment orthodoxy is essentially a religion, as fake and power-serving as any other, and if you want to work in mainstream politics or media you need to demonstrate that you are a member of that religion. ..."
"... That's all you're ever seeing when you notice blue-checkmarked reporters tweeting in promotion of imperialist interests and status quo politics. They are not laboring under the delusion that they are saying anything new or insightful that a hundred other people aren't saying at the exact same time; they are signaling. ..."
Nov 21, 2020 | caitlinjohnstone.com

By Caitlin Johnstone , an independent journalist based in Melbourne, Australia. Her website is here and you can follow her on Twitter @caitoz

People who are only just beginning to research what's wrong with the world often hold an assumption that mainstream news reporters are just knowingly propagandizing people all the time.

That they sit around scheming up ways to deceive their audiences into supporting war, oligarchy and oppression for the benefit of their plutocratic masters.

Once you've learned a bit more you realize it's not quite happening that way. Most mainstream news reporters are not really witting propagandists – those are to be found more in plutocrat-funded think tanks and other narrative management firms, and in the opaque government agencies which feed news media outlets information designed to advance their interests. The predominant reason mainstream news reporters say things that aren't true is because in order to be hired by mainstream news outlets, you need to jack your mind into a power-serving worldview that is not based in truth.

A recent job listing for a New York Times Russia Correspondent which was flagged by Russia-based journalist Bryan MacDonald illustrates this dynamic perfectly. The listing reads as follows:

"Vladimir Putin's Russia remains one of the biggest stories in the world.

It sends out hit squads armed with nerve agents against its enemies, most recently the opposition leader Aleksei Navalny. It has its cyber agents sow chaos and disharmony in the West to tarnish its democratic systems, while promoting its faux version of democracy. It has deployed private military contractors around the globe to secretly spread its influence. At home, its hospitals are filling up fast with Covid patients as its president hides out in his villa.

If that sounds like a place you want to cover, then we have good news: We will have an opening for a new correspondent as Andy Higgins takes over as our next Eastern Europe Bureau Chief early next year."

Does this sound like the sort of job someone with a less than hostile attitude toward the Russian government would apply to? Is it a job listing that indicates it might welcome someone who sees mainstream Russia hysteria as cartoonish hyperbole designed to advance the longstanding geostrategic interests of Western power structures against a government which has long resisted bowing to the dictates of those power structures? Someone who voices skepticism about the plot hole - riddled establishment narratives of Russian election meddling and Novichok assassinations ? Someone who, as Moon of Alabama notes , might point out that Putin is in fact at work in the Kremlin right now and not "hiding out" in a "villa" ?

Of course not. In order to get a job at the New York Times, you need to demonstrate that you subscribe to the mainstream oligarchic imperialist worldview which forms the entirety of Western mass media output. You need to demonstrate that you have been properly indoctrinated, and that you can be guided into toeing the imperial line with simple attaboys and tisk-tisks from your superiors rather than being explicitly told to knowingly lie.

Because if they did tell you to knowingly lie to the public to advance the interests of the powerful, that would be propaganda. And propaganda is what happens in evil backwards countries like Russia.

Mainstream establishment orthodoxy is essentially a religion, as fake and power-serving as any other, and if you want to work in mainstream politics or media you need to demonstrate that you are a member of that religion.

That's all you're ever seeing when you notice blue-checkmarked reporters tweeting in promotion of imperialist interests and status quo politics. They are not laboring under the delusion that they are saying anything new or insightful that a hundred other people aren't saying at the exact same time; they are signaling. They are letting current and prospective peers and employers know, "I am a believer. I am a member of the faith." This way they are ensured the continued advancement of their careers in mainstream news media.

This is why you have labels for anyone expressing skepticism of establishment narratives like "conspiracy theorist," "useful idiot," "Russian asset" or "Assadist" ; the powerful people who understand that whoever controls the narrative controls the world need labels to separate the faithful from the heathens. It means the same thing as "heretic . "

The fast and easy way to get rich and famous has always been to promote the interests of the powerful. This is as true in every other sector as it is in media. For this reason, those who pour their energy into criticizing existing power structures and shining a bright light on their dynamics aren't likely to be living in fancy mansions or going to ritzy parties any time soon, while those who do the opposite actually will. And yet when someone sets up a Substack or a Patreon account to make criticizing the powerful their life's work, it is they who will get called money-grubbing grifters by the propagandized.

www.youtube.com/embed/Y2EPgix5_5w

The faces you see thrust onto screens by the plutocratic media are not spouting falsehoods while being aware of their deception, any more than any preacher is knowingly lying when they say you'll burn for eternity if you don't accept the gospel. Most of them believe everything they are saying , because they have been propagandized into becoming good acolytes and proselytizers of the faith.

The most propagandized people on earth are those who are responsible for promulgating propaganda.


Naughtylus 15 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 04:08 AM

Spot on article. Journalists in MSM media constantly brag about their independence, impartiality, truthfulness, etc. and I always wanted to ask them how long they think they would keep their job if they simply questioned the established narrative of their company. People hired in the media these days are not hired for the job of informing or being journalists, but to act as a mere transmission for opinion manipulation campaigns, devised by those in real power circles.
KennethKeen 15 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 04:18 AM
Excellent explanation. I would add an additional method of climbing the career ladder. If you do something criminal, that others in the system are aware of, then you can soar up the ranks, as they are guaranteed the possibility of blackmailing you. That is how the house of cards is held in place.
1justssayn 12 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 07:26 AM
Absolutely spot on. It applies to a lot of other occupations as well.
shadow1369 15 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 04:27 AM
The strange thing is that while not a single statement in the NYT summary was true of Russia, they cvould all be applied to the us. I guess that is the point, applicants must be prepared to simply substitute the Russia for the US whenever thery describe crimes against humanity. So zero intelligence is required, but more importantly zero integrity either.
Fenianfromcork 12 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 07:47 AM
Sounds more like an add for joining the CIA.
Insulyn Fenianfromcork 9 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 10:11 AM
I wonder just how many who are hired either work for the CIA already or start working for the CIA soon after? The add was possibly written with CIA direction. Embedded propagandists. The ad just shows how journalism simply doesn't matter to the MSM, it's all narrative and spin.
Geo Graphy 12 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 07:50 AM
The fourth estate has let their ego override their common sense. They are not an elected representation of any portion of the American or any other country's public. They are employees of organizations that operate for profit. They do not have a public mandate to provide their opinion as news. They are incapable of reporting news without slanting the view they present. Since it is slanted, it is not news, it is garbage. What the media presents to the public is pure propaganda made up by the staff and management of the so called news organizations. If the fourth estate will not return to reporting the news, then they rightfully belong on the trash heap of history.
PhillisStein 8 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 12:04 PM
'The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.' - Edward Bernays In other words, democracy is a 'majority rules' model and, since, in our current consciousness, you can fool most of the people most of the time, then democracy is able to be easily manipulated, and thus is not true democracy. We cannot have anything approaching civil society until we are able to exercise our free will with informed consent, which requires objective information. Sadly, everything is based upon the 'victim' model, which treats us as children - 'don't worry, we'll just do all your thinking for you and just tell you what to think.'
bos000 11 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:23 AM
Propaganda for americans: "US army "heroes" are around the world to protect america,s freedom and democracy", by killing innocents in other countries, when no one ever attack US.
Smythe_Mogg 7 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 12:38 PM
Perhaps journalists are not responsible for the content of propaganda but they are complicit in its transmission. Journalism for the most part, if ever it was, is not a profession with respect to practitioners upholding standards they refuse to deviate from. 'Hacks' working for the popular press are commonly derided. These days it is those employed by 'broadsheet' papers (and equivalent digital media) who truly merit opprobrium. The days when the Times fielded gentlemen are long gone. Few independent thinkers are to be found among prominent journalists. 'Broadsheet' decline has far more serious consequences than the worst the popular press can do. The popular press always has catered for 'low brow' and 'middle brow' readers; its lower reaches being little more than scandal sheets with titillating pictures. These readers are not movers and shakers: they are followers. The educated class, nowadays sadly depleted, relies on news outlets to be under editorial control capable of picking wheat from amidst chaff of no consequence and seeking accurate reporting thereof. A concomitant is choosing informed individuals to offer opinion pieces; top of this pile is the editorial which at one time could shake government. Lack of a properly informed upper tier of the population capable of challenging the self-styled political elite (and their owners) betokens descent into oligarchy and thereby kakistocracy.
OneGenericUser Gatineau25deA 15 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 04:50 AM
I have a somewhat cliche' opinion. I don't care Americans want their country to rule the world, I want the world to have a choice on wether they want America as a leader, and I bet the majority of countries don't. If you're impose your "leadership" then you're not a leader, you're a dictator.

[Nov 25, 2020] When it comes to the real enemy of the Neocons and Neoliberals, it is Russia, not China.

Nov 25, 2020 | caitlinjohnstone.com

SOCRATIC TRUTH / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

Caitlin, when it comes to the real enemy of the Neocons and Neoliberals, Russia is the real enemy, not China. You have to understand GLOBALIZATION. China is Part of the Globalization project that started over 30 years ago. It's a complex parasitic relationship. The Globalist elites in the US are working towards the "Great Reset" using the Coronavirus pseudemic that started in China and use it as an excuse to move towards a society that will resemble the totalitarian, repressive communist one like in China. A lot of our big corporations are still doing great business there. However they are not in Russia. Russia was kicked out of the G8 years ago, because they were not going to go along with the Globalization project and the New World Order enslavement project of the G7 (without Russia now). Trump was bad enough as a president, but he was not really part of the "Globalist Club". I assure you Mr BIDEN is totally compromised by the NWO evil Globalists comprised of the MIS, Transnational corporations & International Finance, and will try to act "tough" with China, but this will be just a distraction. The US Shadow Government elites control him totally, something they could not always do with Idiot Trump. Here's an example how they worked with our "enemy" Communist China:

Gates, Fauci, CCP, Big Pharma, international Bankers, they have all colluded with the WHO to create the Coronavirus "pseudemic".


(the NIH, under the direction of Dr. Fauci, sent $3.7 million to the Wuhan lab in 2014, and then showered the Chinese scientists at this lab with another $3.7 million in 2019 to keep their work going, the work of developing a bat virus that could attack people. Two back-to-back 5-year projects that took $7.4 million out of taxpayer pockets and out of the United States).

WHO is a globalist institution and so are the actors that are colluding with it.

How Joe Biden was 'recruited' to become agent of Chinese Communist party

While Joe was cutting deals with China, the Chinese Communist party was putting its hooks into him:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/how-joe-biden-was-recruited-to-become-agent-of-chinese-communist-party

CAITLIN JOHNSTONE (AUTHOR) / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

You are wrong. You are a victim of the echo chamber dynamic described in this article. China was temporarily courted to pull it away from the USSR and a bunch of plutocrats rode a lot of wealth on that move, but it insists on its own sovereignty and an agenda to halt its rise and roll back its power has long been in the works. Obama got the ball rolling on this years ago. Biden will continue ramping up the same anti-China agendas as his predecessors Trump and Obama, and I will document those escalations in this space. When that happens, you need to make sure you re-evaluate your incorrect position based on the new evidence presented. You should already be beginning that re-evaluation based on the information I just gave you about his cabinet picks.

REALIST / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

Right. That's what the "Pivot to Asia" foreign policy during the Obomber administration was all about. The US thought it was going to pick off as new allies all the countries surrounding China and make them antagonists rather than partners with the Chinese and their grand plans like the BRI. This was pretty much the same strategy that had been employed against Russia and its former satellites and Soviet republics in Eastern Europe. Vietnam and the Philippines were supposed to be the new Georgia and Ukraine set in the Orient.
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Washington's oft repeated big trick is to dangle beaucoup bucks before the leaders of third rate powers to get them to change allegiances and to play on age old resentments that small regional powers often have against the local monolith like Russia or China. Ego-driven lightweights like Poroshenko and Duterte are often susceptible to Yankee flattery that they can wield some real power under the American umbrella.
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So, Washington promises Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei etc that it will bring "justice" and support their claims for sundry rocks in the South China Sea, especially the ones fortified by China to ensure shipping lanes stay upon under potential aggression from the Americans (who else would be a threat?)
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That Washington would preach the usual bullshit about peace and harmony while actually pursuing treachery and bloodshed is no surprise, however, one must snap to attention over the ballsy evolution of its attitude of unconcern about who knows and understands this disconnect. I don't doubt that Russia and China have always known that Washington is totally untrustworthy. The Russians even coined a new term to describe this state of complete and absolute American unreliability, which I don't remember because I don't speak their language. But today, most of the American people also must know, they must know that America drafts very real plans to eradicate the entire Chinese fleet off their own coast within a 72-hour time frame all for pursuing nothing more than their own national interests. They know unless they have been living under a rock for the entirety of the 21st century or have thoroughly perfected the art of Orwellian Double Think.

JOHN DAY / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

It's competition for tribute. China has a long history of receiving tribute from all of the world which it knew. This is Chinese world history. It's how Chinese rulers naturally see the world. Russia is historically Byzantine (Greek) in it's diplomacy and somewhat isolationist militarily, defending in depth, then counter-attacking decisively.
Our owners cannot get their new demotion worked out amongst themselves and plan to squeeze us for blood and dominate the rest of the world, which is bigger and more complex than China and Russia, and more flexible to adapt against the empire.
How much more hubris shall the world receive?

ANARCISSIE / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

I think the provocations against China, like those against Russia, have been largely theatrical. There _was_ a plan to push the Russians out of the Caucasus, Ukraine, and Syria in order to dominate the Black Sea and the Middle East, but the US had no intention of applying serious military muscle to it (which could have led to a major war). The US actually has no problems with Russia, and they have a common interest in keeping Muslims tamped down in the Middle East. Likewise, the US will play at constructing a ring of hostile states around China, but this is unlikely to succeed, and when it fails, the US plan is to retreat to Australia and India, or possibly Africa if things go very badly. Again, the US has no actual conflicts with China; the pseudo-war with China is 90% prolefeed. This was all laid out pretty well by George Orwell in _1984_: 'We have always been at war with Eastasia,' etc.

JP JUDE / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

I sort of agree with you, Ms Johnstone, but have you considered you might be in an echo chamber? I say this because I read your article the same day I read about the new Asian trade deal. It's huge with everyone, China to Australia in it. And, after I read about Xi wanting to end global poverty; China has officially ended national poverty, and wants to end global poverty. It kind of puts the altercations with India in a new light; they've long had a caste system which is like class–which they're supposed to end but haven't, and reminds me of the States being classless but not really. I think if you follow the money sotta speak, the Americans have a real problem and a lot of the war propaganda is them trying to be relevant to a world that has moved on. I don't know if it's anti-globalization but the thing about the Americans going to war is the reality they're doing it for a buck. Weapons sales and all that, just real war is now fought via technology. The Chinese, Russians even the Indians, can fight that kind of war; the Americans can't as evidence by the proliferation of weapons and number of friendly fire accidents demonstrates. They're all brawn in a more cerebral world. I think the argument has changed.

NEWTON FINN / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

Thanks for a different and intriguing slant.

[Nov 25, 2020] Nagorno-Karabakh is Tragic but Not America's Problem - Antiwar.com Original

Nov 25, 2020 | original.antiwar.com

Nagorno-Karabakh is Tragic but Not America's Problem

Let Other Governments Try To Resolve the Intractable Conflict

by Doug Bandow Posted on November 25, 2020

In Washington foreign conflicts are to policymakers what lights are to moths. The desire to take the U.S. into every political dispute, social collapse, civil war, foreign conflict, and full-scale war seems to only get stronger as America's failures accumulate.

There may be no better example than the battle between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the latter's claim to the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, contained within Azerbaijan but largely populated by ethnic Armenians. Distant from the US and Europe, the struggle matters most to nearby Georgia, Turkey, Iran, and Russia.

The impact on Americans is minor and indirect at best. Yet there is wailing and gnashing of teeth in Washington that the US is "absent" from this fight. Send in the bombers! Or at least the diplomats! Candidate Joe Biden predictably insisted that America should be leading a peace effort "together with our European partners," without indicating what that would mean in practice.

The roots of the conflict, like so many others, go back centuries. Control of largely Muslim Azerbaijan and Christian Armenia passed among Persia, the Ottoman Empire, and Russian Empire. After the Russian Revolution the two were independent and fought over N-K's status, before both were absorbed by the Soviet Union. Nagorno-Karabakh's ethnic Armenian population began pressing for transfer to Armenia during the U.S.S.R.'s waning days. After the latter collapsed in 1992 the two newly independent nations again fought, resulting in tens of thousands of deaths and hundreds of thousands of refugees, and Armenia grabbed the disputed land as well as even larger adjacent territory filled with ethnic Azerbaijanis.

A ceasefire froze the bitter conflict, leaving the conquered territory under Armenian control. Although Yerevan's gain was tenuous, unrecognized by the rest of the world and dependent upon a geographic corridor between Armenia and N-K, the government, largely in response to internal political pressures, grew steadily more aggressive and unwilling to honor previous commitments. Violent clashes mixed with ineffective talks between the two states.

With no prospect of resolution, despite long-standing diplomatic efforts through the so-called Minsk Process, involving America and France, among others, Azerbaijani forces, relying on Turkey, employing Syrian mercenaries, and utilizing Israeli-made drones, launched an offensive in September. With Yerevan losing troops and territory, Moscow brokered a new ceasefire, which required Armenia's withdrawal from areas conquered a quarter century ago. The transportation corridor is to be policed by Russian peacekeeping forces; Turkish officials will help monitor the ceasefire.

The result was jubilation in Baku and riots in Yerevan. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, under political siege, declared: "This is not a victory, but there is no defeat until you consider yourself defeated, we will never consider ourselves defeated and this shall become a new start of an era of our national unity and rebirth." More accurate was Azerbaijani President Ilham Alyev's assessment: "This [ceasefire] statement constitutes Armenia's capitulation. This statement puts an end to the years-long occupation. This statement is our Glorious Victory." With Pashinyan's authority in tatters and Alyev triumphantly enjoying a surge in popular support, hostilities could easily explode again.

Why would any sane American want to get in the middle of this fight?

Demands that Washington "do something" ignore three important realities. The first is that the conflict has nothing to do with the US and threatens no serious American interests. The fighting is tragic, of course, as are similar battles around the world. However, this volatile region is dominated by Iran, Russia, and Turkey. Iran previously supported Armenia, Turkey strongly backed Azerbaijan, and Russia has good relations with both, including a defense treaty with Yerevan which Moscow deemed not to cover contested territory, meaning N-K.

Which of these powers, all essentially American adversaries – despite Ankara's continued membership in the transatlantic alliance – dominates which neighbor is a matter of indifference to Washington. It simply doesn't matter, and certainly isn't worth fighting over. Once US officials would have preferred Turkey over Iran and Russia, but President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has taken his nation in an Islamist and authoritarian direction, warmed relations with Russia, the only serious target of NATO, and begun aggressively expanding Turkish influence and control in Syria, Libya, and the eastern Mediterranean. Ankara encouraged the current military round by enhancing Azerbaijani capabilities.

Georgia also shares a border with both combatants but is only a bit player in the ongoing drama. However, it has lobbyists in Washington whose mission is to get Tbilisi into NATO and thus turn Georgia into another US defense dependent. Doing so would create a direct border conflict with Russia, made much more dangerous by the volatility of Georgian politics. The irresponsible and reckless President Mikheil Saakashvili triggered the brief yet disastrous 2008 war with Russia and remains active politically. Tbilisi's dubious role is another reason for the US to avoid deeper involvement in the region's disputatious politics.

The second point is that there is nothing sensible America for do, despite cacophonous demands otherwise. In October Washington Post columnist David Ignatius complained: "The global power vacuum invites mischief. The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan has escalated over 10 days of fighting. Armenian leaders initially hoped that US diplomacy could produce a ceasefire; now they look to Moscow."

Translated, Yerevan wanted Washington to save Armenia from both its original aggression and later intransigence. Like many other governments have desired in other conflicts. But how was the US to restrain Azerbaijan, which was able to recover long-lost territory only by resorting to force? America's regional policy has been a disaster. Washington already demonstrated its impotence in Ankara as Erdogan charted an independent course. The US turned a difficult relationship with Moscow into a mini-Cold War. The Trump administration foolishly declared economic war on Iran, creating regional instability and precluding negotiation.

As for Azerbaijan, military intervention would risk war for no good reason. Economic sanctions would punish Baku, but to what end? So far, the president's constant resort to "maximum pressure" has failed to induce political surrender in Havana, Caracas, Damascus, Pyongyang, or Moscow. Whatever the economic price, Aliyeh could ill afford to retreat and anger an entire population currently celebrating his triumph. Anyway, the issue is not worth another failed American attempt at global social engineering. Which means Washington had nothing to offer but words.

Certainly the US should encourage a peaceful settlement and negotiation, but this is a conflict for which there is no obvious diplomatic answer. It is easy to insist that Baku should not have restarted hostilities, but the Alyev government struck because diplomacy had frozen along with the dispute. And Baku's success dramatically reshaped the balance of power, leaving Armenia in a far worse position than before. Creative mediation might help, but Azerbaijan, on offense, showed no interest in such an effort. Nor has Washington demonstrated the ability to reign in Baku's main backer, Turkey, anywhere else. Washington is filled with magical thinking, the belief that the president merely need whisper his command and the entire world will snap to attention. Alas, America long ago lost that ability, if it ever had it.

Moreover, US officials share some blame: On the presumption that Azerbaijan was committed to a peaceful settlement, Washington provided it with arms and aid to combat terrorism. Unfortunately, weaponry, like money, is fungible. And that mistake cannot be unmade.

An equally mistaken belief in the Trump administration's commitment also might have helped lead Armenia astray. Since taking power in the Velvet Revolution two years ago, Pashinyan sought to move westward. However, in the present crisis neither America nor Europe did anything to assist Yerevan – whose occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh remains illegal under international law. Some US interest groups attempted to turn Armenia into a cause celebre of religious persecution, but the Muslim-Christian clash is incidental to broader geopolitics which little concerned the West.

The horrid genocide committed by the Ottoman Empire against ethnic Armenians a century ago is constantly cited but remains irrelevant to today's conflict. Around three decades ago Armenia invaded Azerbaijan to seize incontestably Azerbaijani land. Baku struck back for reasons of nationalism, not religion. The essential irrelevance of religion is reflected in Christian Russia's good relations with Muslim Azerbaijan, Jewish Israel arming Muslim Azerbaijan, and Muslim Iran's long backing for Christian Armenia, though these ties ebbed in the last couple years. The US should no more be a crusading Christian republic than a crusading republic.

Finally, Russia demonstrated that other powers have an interest in peace and stability and are able to act. That is a tough lesson for the denizens of Washington to learn, given their irrational hatred of Russia. Vladimir Putin is no cuddly liberal but most American policymakers make hypocrisy and sanctimony the foundations of their approach to Moscow. After all, Putin has killed fewer innocent people than Trump administration's favorite dictator, Mohammed bin Salman, whose aggression against Yemen has resulted in more than five years of murder and mayhem and created the worst humanitarian disaster on the planet. Yet Washington continues to sell Saudi Arabia more weapons and munitions with which to kill more Yemeni civilians.

Moreover, though Moscow has behaved badly, in Georgia and Ukraine in particular, so has the US in Russia's eyes. Washington misled Moscow over NATO expansion, dismantled longtime Russian friend Serbia, pushed NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia, embraced Tbilisi, which fired on Russian troops guaranteeing security in neighboring secessionist territory, encouraged a street putsch against an elected, Russophile government in Kiev, and sought to push Moscow out of Syria, an ally of nearly 70 years. The expectation of American policymakers that they can use military force to push the Monroe Doctrine up to Russia's border without triggering a sharp response is unrealistic at best, deadly at worst.

Of course, the Russia-brokered accord was a clear diplomatic triumph and likely will solidify Moscow's influence. However, with success has come responsibility, which could prove costly to Moscow. The accord remains fragile and unstable, and might collapse.

By its nature the agreement is short-term and does not address the fundamental issue, the status of N-K. Indeed, on its own terms either party, which would most likely be Azerbaijan in this case, can order the withdrawal of Russian monitors in five years. However, the modus vivendi might not last even that long. Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev posited: "I hope that today's ceasefire and our further plans to normalize relations with Armenia, if perceived positively by the Armenian side, can create a new situation in the region, a situation of cooperation, a situation of strengthening stability and security." With Yerevan aflame after angry mobs took over the National Assembly building, severely beat that body's speaker, trashed the prime minister's home, and forced him into hiding, "positive" probably is not the right word to describe Armenians' perception of the settlement. In fact, those who abandoned their homes in territory turned over to Azerbaijan adopted a scorched earth policy, destroying everything.

Both sides probably view the latest agreement a bit like French Gen. Ferdinand Foch presciently saw the Versailles Treaty: "This is not peace. It is an armistice for 20 years." Only the N-K time frame might be much shorter. Nevertheless, no one else has offered any better alternative. Unfortunately, zero-sum disputes over territory are among the most difficult disputes to resolve. Either Armenia or Azerbaijan will control N-K. Either ethnic Armenians or Azerbaijanis will live in N-K. Yes, the ideal would be people from both lands to live together in a democratic state, joining hands around a bonfire to sing Kumbaya every night. However, no one believes that is even a remote possibility.

With nothing meaningful to offer to solve the current firefight, it was best for Washington to stay out. In fact, Armenia's old guard, pushed out of power by Pashinyan two years ago in the Velvet Revolution, blame their nation's defeat on his government's subsequent turn West, from which it received little support. Brokering the current defeat would merely have reinforced anger against America.

Russia acted because it has far more at stake. Let it undertake the burden of seeking a settlement. Let it accept the cost of enforcing a settlement. Let it bear the blame if the system again crashes.

US policymakers have trouble imagining a world in which a sparrow falls to earth, to borrow Biblical imagery, without the US responding. If the bird falls in Nagorno-Karabakh, at least, Americans should allow someone else to pick it up. It is not Washington's purpose to make every conflict on earth America's own.

Doug Bandow is a Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute. A former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan, he is author of Foreign Follies: America's New Global Empire .

[Nov 25, 2020] Dangerous Precedent- Military Force Works (For Some) - Antiwar.com Original

Nov 25, 2020 | original.antiwar.com

Dangerous Precedent: Military Force Works (For Some)

by Maj. Danny Sjursen, USA (ret.) Posted on November 25, 2020

Predictions are tricky matters in world affairs – and as it turns out, prescience produces little in the way of public or personal vindication. There's scant satisfaction when one's subjects tend towards the tragic. Take the (for now) paused 44-day war in the South Caucasus. Back in an October interview , I offered this (then) seemingly provocative prognosis:

"If this thing gets solved, or put back in the freezer, which is about the best we can hope for right now, it will be Putin playing King Solomon and cutting the Nagorno-Karabakh baby in half."

Think Moscow will merit plaudits from mainstream media? After all, four weeks ago, a U.S.-brokered truce held a whole few hours !

Snark aside, intellectual merriment loses luster when it amounts to dancing on thousands of fresh graves filled with family members of the tens of thousands more newly displaced . Only the implications of the ceasefire's terms – under which Armenian troops withdraw from Nagorno-Karabakh after a 26 years occupation and replaced by Russian peacekeepers – are also disturbing. The outcome also set potentially long-lasting precedents.

Make no mistake this was no small victory for the initiator – if not aggressor – nation of Azerbaijan. That under the agreement , Azeri troops stay in place within areas of Nagorno-Karabakh they seized in battle, has profound ramifications. War worked. Furthermore, seven odd weeks of combat proved – once again – that it often does, at least in certain contexts.

What are those (not-so) special situations, you ask? Easy: be in the esteemed and wealthy Western camp. Kow-tow diplomatically and play ball economically – especially in energy sales – with multinational corporations headquartered in North American and European capitals. Thus, win powerful friends and influence prominent people and nearly anything is permissible.

Anyway, both people and leaders in Baku – especially the mini-Stalinist Aliyev dynasty running the family fiefdom – are thrilled with the outcome. Same goes for folks in Ankara, and madcap Erdogan – the man who would be sultan – himself. Instructively, there's no less enthusiasm in Tel Aviv – not just by Bibi Netanyahu's dominant rightist ethnocrats . Because this much you can't make up: pro-Baku rallies and the waving of Azeri flags in Israel!

Look, Ankara hates their Armenian late genocide victims for surviving to tell the Turk-indicting tale. Besides, Erdogan is pursuing neo-Ottoman adventurism region-wide, and more than happy to tap in into ethno-Turkic and co-religionist solidarity to grease those grandiose wheels. Israel's self-styled Jewish and Democratic hybrid state support for Shia Islamic majority Azerbaijan seems stranger – unless one's in the know on the lengthy and sordid ties between Bibi and Baku.

Not so among Armenians in Yerevan – where protesters stormed the parliament, physically accosted the speaker and reportedly looted the prime minister's own office. Something tells me we haven't heard the last of Armenia's army in Nagorno-Karabakh – given the soreness and inherent instability of losing sides in long-standing and externally-escalated ethno-religious conflicts.

And here's the troubling rub: if not quite smoking guns there's plenty of smoke indicating that Turkey – and to a lesser but significant extent, Israel – conspired with Azerbaijan's petty autocrats to conquer (or reconquer) Nagorno-Karabakh. The preparatory collusion was years in the making, ramped up mightily in the months before D-Day – yet unfolded largely under the U.S. and broader international radar. Consider a cursory recitation of the salient sequence.

Ankara's support for its Azeri Turkic-brethren has grown gradually more overt for years. So have its long-standing arms-sales to Baku. Then came a decisive pivot – according to one report , a six-fold jump in weapon's transfers to Azerbaijan over the last year. Then, this past summer, Turkish troops trained and did joint exercises with Azeri forces. Consider it a pre-invasion capstone.

Finally – now here's a cute catalyst – Ankara reportedly moved those implausibly-deniable Syrian mercenaries into Azerbaijan two weeks before Baku's attack. Don't take my radical word for it, though. Consider the conclusions of the decidedly establishment-friendly Carnegie Endowment for International Peace's resident Caucasus expert. Fellow longtime NK-watcher Tom de Waal was as clear as he was concise:

"It's pretty obvious that Azerbaijan has been preparing for this. Azerbaijan decided it wanted to change the status quo and that the Armenian side had no interest in a war " and "Clearly, the decisive factor in this conflict is Turkey's intervention on Azerbaijan's side. They seem to be heavily coordinating the war effort."

All told, that indirect intervention, coordination, and the combat- proven capabilities of allied arms sales bonanzas – especially Turkish Bayraktar TB2 and Israeli kamikaze drones – were decisive. Thousands of Yerevan's troops were killed, about a third of its tanks were destroyed, and at least 50,000 Armenians have fled in the face of Azeri gains.

Then, in the eleventh hour breach – as if to force friendly peace terms from Russia – Turkey threatened to intervene outright. Just how did big, bad, unhinged and the 10-foot-tall Putin of Democrat-delusions respond to Erdogan's provocation? Well, he essentially folded – or settled – in the interest of temporary tranquility in Russia's restive near-abroad. Recall that Moscow eschewed even much menacing – let alone actual intervention – on behalf of its official Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) Armenian ally.

That this was all so represents nothing less than a paradigm-shifting precedent-setter. Or at least a reminder of force's forever utility for some. Boost your batch of backers, gather the tech-savvy arsenal that's thus available, and ready your patron-trained troops for war. Invade only once the green-light comes from on-external-high, and the "rules-based" international order that isn't – but is dominated (for now) by Washington – will avert eyes long enough to enable Nuremberg's " supreme crime " of armed aggression to work its magic.

So force pays if your government has coveted energy resources, the cash they produce, the weapons they buy – plus powerful patrons willing to sell you the cutting edge stuff. Just ask sundry Gulf Arab autocrats! (Though it rarely turns out as well for internal – especially Shia dissidents or, you know, Yemeni kids).

To take it a step further, maybe your benefactor even tosses in some third-party mercenaries, trains and advises your army just before game-time, and threatens outright intervention if your little-bro-government doesn't get it's way. It also helps if your patron's patron is still a hyper-hegemon that bullies – I mean, "leads" by principled example – much of the wealthy world into silence or complicity, and looks the other way long enough for facts on the ground to turn your way. Now there's a formula for force as solution to frozen conflicts!

No doubt other parties paid attention. Heck, they want in on the violent game-changing game! Believe you me, there are plenty of neo-fascists, adventurist American "allies," and frenemies – all in need of a little citizen-distraction from Covid, corruption, and economic collapse – who are all in for applying the new NK-formula. Ukrainian fascists, Georgian Euro-aspirants, frightened and ever-opportunist Baltic bros or Taiwanese troops, Egypt's military coup-artists, Arabian princely theocrats, and no doubt Israel's Bibi bunch – yea, they all took careful Caucasus-notes.

So where does America's president-elect, Joe Biden, stand on the Russian-brokered truce, you ask? About as you'd suspect from a fella inside the beltway cult of "collusion." Biden picked partisan point-scoring over principled consistency. He " slammed " Trump's supposed slow response to the NK-fighting and accused him of "delegating the diplomacy to Moscow." In fact, his campaign's initial statement singled out Moscow's ostensibly "cynical" arms sales to both conflict parties and failed to name even once the war's Beetlejuice of bellicosity – Turkey.

Never known for nuance, the gut-player-elect failed to couch his rather bold critique with admissions of US security assistance to both sides, acknowledge the Tel Aviv and Ankara accelerants, nor the circumscribed options for any administration in an unfrozen conflict in which Washington has no real " dog in the fight ." Well, that's strange – seeing as the Russian-led settlement pushed past achieving one of Biden's publicly stated goals: to "make clear to Armenia that regions surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh cannot be occupied indefinitely."

Well, so it goes with Russia-obsessed Democratic administrations beset with the clinical -narcissism of American exceptionalism. No matter how distant the conflict, no matter how far off the citizenry's obscurity-radar: the maelstrom must be about us . See everything, everywhere , is apparently about US interests, anxieties, and obsessions. Today's obsessive flavor of the moment – and for most of the century since Bolshevik Red October – is Moscow.

Therein lies the problem, and what I've been boy-who-cried-wolfing about regarding the real risk regarding the coming Democratic administration. That is, after making everything about Trump and Russia for four years, they might begin believing their own exaggerated alarmism and follow through with legit escalation and acceleration of theater numero uno of a dual-front, Eurasia-spanning Cold War encore. If Moscow and Beijing are forever branded bad boys – in motive and machinations – then on shall continually churn the war state, with all the pecuniary and professional benefits to both the outgoing Trump team and incoming Biden bunch alike.

Few Americans will notice, or bother to bother themselves about it – pandemic preoccupied and social media distracted as they be – until the fruits of folly flash in front of their eyes (pun intended).

Forget Condi Rice's farcical foreboding of a mushroom cloud as smoking gun . Even the Bushies' bald-faced lies rarely reached past Saddam's singular nuclear blasts – Washington and Moscow might end the world in an afternoon.

So permit me one final prediction: if they do, some staunch US"ally" learned-of the latest Caucasus-conclusions will be the one to drag us down to oblivion.

Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer, senior fellow at the Center for International Policy (CIP), contributing editor at Antiwar.com , and director of the new Eisenhower Media Network (EMN). His work has appeared in the NY Times, LA Times, The Nation, Huff Post, The Hill, Salon, The American Conservative, Mother Jones, Scheer Post and Tom Dispatch, among other publications. He served combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and later taught history at West Point. He is the author of a memoir and critical analysis of the Iraq War, Ghostriders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge and Patriotic Dissent: America in the Age of Endless War . Along with fellow vet Chris "Henri" Henriksen, he co-hosts the podcast " Fortress on a Hill ." Follow him on Twitter @SkepticalVet and on his website for media requests and past publications.

Copyright 2020 Danny Sjursen

[Nov 25, 2020] America desperately needs its Two Minutes of Hate against other countries like a meth addict needs his next hit

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"... Hate is the only thing that holds the American Empire together. Without its Two Minutes of Hate, America will break up apart into a million pieces. ..."
Nov 25, 2020 | caitlinjohnstone.com

USA-MA BIN LADEN / NOVEMBER 25, 2020

America desperately needs its Two Minutes of Hate against other countries like a meth addict needs his next hit.

For Democrats and their ilk, Hate Russia was their unifying and mobilizing ideology. For Republicans and their ilk, Hate China is their unifying and mobilizing ideology.

Hate is the only thing that holds the American Empire together. Without its Two Minutes of Hate, America will break up apart into a million pieces.

[Nov 25, 2020] One thought on Flynn pardon

Nov 25, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

blue peacock , 25 November 2020 at 06:08 PM

Trump should drive the Obama 3.0 and GOP Swamp establishment nuts by pardoning Snowden and Assange too.

[Nov 25, 2020] Podcast -- Empire Has No Clothes

Now with the recent Presidential election fiasco it really does not ;-)
Nov 25, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The Origins of U.S. Supremacy with Stephen Wertheim - The American Conservative

On this edition of Empire Has No Clothes, Matt, Kelley, and Daniel speak to Stephen Wertheim, deputy director of research and policy at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. He discusses his new book, Tomorrow, the World , the rise of American global supremacy, and why that idea is now breaking down. We also talk about the foreign policy presidential debate that wasn't and the upcoming election.

[Nov 25, 2020] Biden's foxes guard the henhouse

You can't find better smarter neocons to pursue the Full Spectrum Dominance Doctrine to the total decimation of the standard of living of ordinary Americans ;-)
Nov 25, 2020 | thegrayzone.com

Since the 1990s, Flournoy and Blinken have steadily risen through the ranks of the military-industrial complex, shuffling back and forth between the Pentagon and hawkish think-tanks funded by the U.S. government, weapons companies, and oil giants.

Under Bill Clinton, Flournoy was the principal author of the 1996 Quadrinellial Defense Review, the document that outlined the U.S. military's doctrine of permanent war – what it called "full spectrum dominance."

Flournoy called for "unilateral use of military power" to ensure "uninhibited access to key markets, energy supplies, and strategic resources."

... During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, Biden declared, "In my judgment, President Bush is right to be concerned about Saddam Hussein's relentless pursuit of weapons of mass destruction"

As Iraq was plunged into chaos and bloodshed, Flournoy was among the authors of a paper titled "Progressive Internationalism" that called for a "smarter and better" style of permanent war. The paper chastised the anti-war left and stated that "Democrats will maintain the world's most capable and technologically advanced military, and we will not flinch from using it to defend our interests anywhere in the world."

... In 2005, Flournoy signed onto a letter from the neoconservative think tank Project for a New American Century, asking Congress to "increase substantially the size of the active duty Army and Marine Corps (by) at least 25,000 troops each year over the next several years."

[Nov 25, 2020] "Social" media as a cancer: it creates tightly insulated echo chambers which masturbate our confirmation bias and hide any information which might cause us cognitive dissonance

Nov 25, 2020 | caitlinjohnstone.com

ROUNDBALL SHAMAN / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

"social media is notorious for the way it creates tightly insulated echo chambers which masturbate our confirmation bias and hide any information which might cause us cognitive dissonance by contradicting it. Whole media careers were built on this phenomenon "
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So-called "social" media is a cancer eating away at our humanity and our sense of community with every passing moment. It is a devil's brew of the worst of human thought and behavior that seeks to lower the level of human interaction with every click and toxic retort. It may be the tool that actually does us in even more than the other big threats to our existence.
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"Splitting the public up into two oppositional factions who barely interact and can't even communicate with each other because they don't share a common reality keeps the populace impotent, ignorant, and powerless to stop the unfolding of the agendas of the powerful."
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People today have short attention spans. They don't have any depth of thinking and they certainly don't want shades of grey. The Dark Powers successfully exploit this weakness to their benefit with little pushback from an easily amused public. Those who love simplicity don't want anything more challenging and they certainly aren't the least bit concerned about those who are actively doing them in.
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"You should not be afraid of your government being too nice to China. What you should worry about is the US-centralized power alliance advancing a multifront new cold war conducted simultaneously against two nuclear-armed nations for the first time ever in human history. "
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We should indeed be concerned about Empires measuring the size of their manhoods against each other but since that has nothing to do with reporting on our neighbors for not wearing masks or the speed of our internet connections or the latest video of some fool acting the fool on the web we won't be concerned about it. You gotta have priorities, you know.

[Nov 25, 2020] It is a sad indictment on the state of the world if 80 million people vote for a man, who although not as crazy as Trump, nevertheless poses a real threat to the rest of the world.

Nov 25, 2020 | caitlinjohnstone.com

WILLD / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

It is a sad indictment on the state of the world if 80 million people vote for a man, who although not as crazy as Trump, nevertheless poses a real threat to the rest of the world.

Any way you look at it, democracy has failed us yet again.

JWK / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

Gang rape is democracy in action. It's a tool of the worst tyrants, convincing their subjects they have a say in the matter. They don't. Both of the latest POTUS candidates are the property of the bank cartel, and we will never see one that isn't. Not as long as we have such a huge number of people being controlled by so few. The smaller the state, the more control the people have over it. It gives them the only votes that are effective. Their feet, and their wallet.

JWK / NOVEMBER 24, 2020

Gang rape is democracy in action. It's a tool of the worst tyrants, convincing their subjects they have a say in the matter. They don't. Both of the latest POTUS candidates are the property of the bank cartel, and we will never see one that isn't. Not as long as we have such a huge number of people being controlled by so few. The smaller the state, the more control the people have over it. It gives them the only votes that are effective. Their feet, and their wallet.

[Nov 25, 2020] Biden NSA Pick Called Steele Dossier 'Perfectly Appropriate' - Newsmax.com

Nov 25, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

Joe Biden's national security adviser pick defended the anti-Trump dossier in 2018 as "perfectly appropriate."

Many news outlets have declared Biden the president-elect. Newsmax has yet to project a winner, citing legal challenges in several key battleground states.

Jake Sullivan, who worked for Biden when he served as vice president in the Obama administration and as a senior foreign policy adviser to Hillary Clinton during her presidential race in 2016, made the comments on a podcast interview with David Axelrod, the chief strategist for Obama's presidential campaigns.

"I mean, I believe that it is perfectly appropriate and responsible if we get wind, or if people associated with the campaign get wind, that there may be real questions about the connections between Donald Trump, his organization, his campaign and Russia that that be explored fully," he said at the time, The Daily Caller reported.

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Sullivan worked for Clinton when a law firm representing her campaign hired an opposition research firm to investigate Trump's possible ties to Russia. The firm hired Christopher Steele, the author behind the dossier alleging a "well-developed conspiracy of cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russian government."

Special counsel Robert Mueller later found those claims to be unfounded during his probe into Russian interference in the election, writing in his report "the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

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[Nov 25, 2020] Trump's Legal Battle for the Election is a Mess by John Jalsevac

This is highly relevant critique of Trump legal team. But what the author misses is the systematic campaign of promoting mail-in ballots and enabling ballot harvesting fraud, which is quite provable and which violated constitutions os several states in which it was practiced. For example in Georgia the agreement was reached between the Secretary of State and Tracy Abrams, but the secretary of State has no legal authority to change the state election laws, COVID or no COVID.
Is not interruption in vote counting qualify as brazen interference? It was never explained. Just swiped under the carpet. Does neoliberal Dems manipulations with mail-in ballots quality as "brazen interference" ? i would say yes, it does, This is replica of Pendergast Political Machine methods. Please note that I am not a Trump supporter. I actually consider both Trump and Biden to be very similar abominations.
Nov 25, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

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There is a lot of bad reporting in the media, but a lot of the blame rests on Trump, his legal team and the magnitude, complexity and implausibility of their claims

Trump's lawyers spent a lot of time at the podium lecturing the media on their "fake" reporting on the fraud claims. No doubt, after four years of mainstream media malpractice, they have reason for making this claim.

However, the moralistic lecturing was myopic and counterproductive, simply because even honest journalists (if there are any left) have been left with their heads spinning by the quantity and magnitude of the claims the Trump administration is putting out there right now.

Any honest person approaching the fraud claims without a pre-determined position on their validity (something that is, unfortunately, all too rare) has inevitably been left feeling overwhelmed and confused. There's just too much information. There are too many conflicting claims. There isn't enough time to adjudicate each one of them properly. Not only is some degree of media skepticism to be expected, it's actually the only responsible thing to do , given the complexity and magnitude of the fraud claims, and the stakes at play.

One of the central claims being made by Trump's legal team is that there exists a vast national and global conspiracy involving a network of shadowy electronic voting companies, communist regimes, foreign dictators, vote routing, switching and deleting involving complex algorithms, and the complicity of numerous Democratic governors and election officials. The evidence proffered so far to support this claim is a single affidavit by an unnamed Venezuelan official, and a number of non-specific allegations of data anomalies on election night.

Should we -- should the media -- simply assent to these claims, based solely upon the heat of Sidney Powell's rhetoric, and a single affidavit? How seriously should we even take them, given that the clock is ticking, and it is hard to imagine the Trump team actually proving these allegations by the safe harbor deadlines, whether they are true or not? How much effort should they expend chasing every new bone Sidney Powell and MAGA surrogates throw their way?

"Dianne Feinstein's husband! George Soros! Scytl! German servers! Raids by U.S. military! Spain! Hugo Chavez! Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff! Bill Gates! Cuba!" And so on and so forth.

It's exhausting just trying to keep up. However you look at it, much of it is extraordinarily confusing and, frankly, prima facie unbelievable. Of course, truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. Powell could be right. But how likely is it that all her increasingly wild allegations should come together just as she has laid them out? And how surprised should we be that people outside the MAGA camp are skeptical?

3) The whole thing feels like intellectual blackmail

Rudy Giuliani complained that his team is preparing and presenting cases that would normally take months, if not years to prepare and argue in normal circumstances. The media should give them time to make their case, and wait for the evidence, he said.

But who's fault is this? The Trump administration had four years to investigate Dominion, Smartmatic, and the dangers of electronic voting in general. They could have convened bipartisan committees to investigate voter fraud and the vulnerabilities of these voting machines.

In 2016, even after he won, Trump claimed that there were millions of fraudulent votes. If he really believed that, why didn't he do something meaningful about it while he was in office? Posting about it on Twitter doesn't count.

Sidney Powell has raised some good questions about electronic voting, if only that people will readily believe wild claims of fraud using it. These questions should be pursued, however, a few days ago, most of us had never even heard of Dominion, Smartmatic and Scytl, etc. Now we're being told that we must simply believe Powell's theory that these companies stole the election. Countless MAGA followers are posting that they are absolutely sure , without the slightest shadow of a doubt, that Dominion is behind the electoral theft. This feels mad.

"She's a competent lawyer!" her supporters say. "She's brilliant, she's honest! She's a patriot!" Maybe she is all of these things, but I'm not going to make a judgment about the outcome of a presidential election, or assent to a vast, complex, and highly implausible theory, based upon such thin gruel.

I need time. I need evidence. I need witnesses and counter-witnesses, examined and cross-examined. And being told by the MAGA crowd that I must assent to the theory, and to declare certainty that an election is invalid and that a coup has been perpetrated, without any of these, feels like intellectual blackmail.

The simple fact is, this process should not be happening under the gun like this. And that's on Trump, not the media.

4) Trump's legal team is making an amateur error in its approach to convincing the public

A thousand doubts does not constitute proof. Amateur debaters often fall into the trap of trying to win a debate by listing as many arguments as they can come up with. The mistake is in thinking that people are convinced by sheer quantities of evidence.

In reality, this almost always backfires. When you pound people over the head with argument after argument, they tend to become confused, bewildered, and, in the end, resentful. They resent not having the chance to really think through any one claim or argument in detail. Inevitably they begin to suspect that you're just trying to pull a fast one on them. Usually, they're right.

Trump and his legal team have fallen into this trap. At the press conference, they made repeated reference to the "hundreds" of sworn affidavits they have gathered, and the large number of their lawsuits. However, while hundreds of affidavits may be "evidence," in the legal sense of the term, they do not amount to proof.

A journalist for The Blaze reviewed the affidavits filed in Michigan and noted that many of them do not actually contain allegations of fraud. Instead, they often have to do with circumstantial things, such as how GOP challengers felt they were being "treated" by election officials, or described "fraudulent" behavior that could plausibly be interpreted as election officials following normal procedures that GOP challengers simply failed to understand.

Maybe some of the affidavits obtained by Trump's legal team contain slam-dunk proof of widespread fraud, but if they do, they are being lost in the noise.

Expert debaters know that the best way to win an argument is to select only the very best arguments, and to focus on those. If you go for quantity of evidence, inevitably you will include low quality evidence in your arguments. Your audience, which is not so much weighing each piece of evidence (an impossible task), as whether you are the sort of person who should be trusted, will often only remember your bad or weak arguments. The result is that they will write off everything else you say, as coming from a fundamentally unreliable source.

Trump and his surrogates have raised important questions about election integrity. Unfortunately, however, they have also repeated and promoted numerous false claims. Starting on election night, Trump began retweeting every claim of fraud that came across his Twitter feed, without any effort to fact check them. Many of them have subsequently been proven to be baseless.

It should come as no surprise that those who are not already on board the Trump Train are reacting to each new claim made by Trump with deep skepticism. The tragedy is that some of these claims may be valid. However, Trump's carelessness with the truth has fatally undercut his ability to lead a productive inquiry into voter fraud.

5) The fraud 'investigation' is being conducted ass-backwards

Trump, his legal team, and MAGA supporters all began with the conviction that the election was stolen. Then, they went in search of the proof.

People are skeptical of the effort, because that's the worst possible way to go about an investigation. The point of conducting an investigation is that you do not know the answer. You have a hypothesis or a suspicion, but not proof.

The Trump admin has, from the very beginning, claimed absolute certitude. Unfortunately, this isn't just bad epistemology, it's also insanely reckless, since, by definition, the very claim calls into doubt the very existence of democracy in America.

The word " coup " is being tossed around by MAGA followers carelessly. To say that's a loaded word is an understatement. But Trump and his team have left themselves no escape route. Even if incontrovertible evidence shows up at some point that the election was not stolen, a significant portion of the MAGA crowd will always believe that it was. At this point, there is nothing that could convince them otherwise.

Clearly, having a large body of citizens who believe that their government is illegitimate comes with potentially catastrophic unforeseen consequences. Nobody in the Trump administration or MAGA crowd seems to be giving any thought to this. Damn the torpedoes.

Given that it's Trump, we can expect him to throw out outrageous claims without making any real effort to determine if they're really true. However, it is our responsibility to prioritize truth over political expediency. Whatever our political affiliations, our duty is to investigate with indifference to the outcome, rather than seeking ways to substantiate our personal preferences. When faced with a choice between truth and winning, choose truth, every time.

6) The U.S. electoral system is a mess

Rudy Giuliani has at least this much right. The evidence Giuliani and his team have collected of conflicting processes and procedures around the country, the reports of irregularities, the evidence of actual fraud, and the ongoing efforts of Democrats to push less secure voting methods, may not be sufficient to actually overturn the result. But it absolutely is sufficient to suggest that the whole system is a mess, and vulnerable to exploitation.

While I believe the odds of Trump's fraud claims leading to the election being overturned are slim (although I am keeping an open mind on the question), we can at least hope that the whole sordid episode leads to some serious and much-needed bipartisan electoral reform, so that this does not happen again.

But in the end, that's only going to happen if cooler heads prevail, and reckless rhetoric only leads the country down a dark road of further division and strife.

John Jalsevac is currently working towards a PhD in philosophy. Prior to grad school, he worked for over a decade as a journalist, editor, and pro-life activist. His previous journalism and creative writing have appeared in The Public Discourse, Gilbert! Magazine, Dappled Thing, LifeSiteNews, and others.

muzan-e 4 days ago

The "conspiracy" gets more interesting the more deeply you look into it. For instance :

A government body exists that certifies voting machines and software as being 'okay to use' by individual states. There's a voluntary aspect to this, I believe -- states can choose to ignore the certification, yeah? But that doesn't matter, because the conspiracy is about Dominion , and Dominion was certified safe.

And this means that potentially complicit in the communist/globalist/Soros conspiracy to overthrow Trump are:

* Dominion, obvs.
* Those heads of state that okayed the use of Dominion machines (possibly)
* Those members of that government body most directly responsible for repeatedly certifying Dominion products
* The laboratory (Wyle, almost always) which repeatedly tested and cleared Dominion products

And if Wyle is itself on the take from communists/globalists/Soros, shouldn't we reasonably assume that every other voting product they've tested and cleared is therefore suspect?

And if that election commission is on the take from communists/globalists/Soros, mustn't we assume that they are only certifying voting products which serve their agenda?

And should we not question those most responsible for advancing the responsible parties in that commission to their present exalted state?

And what of Wyle's owners? (National Technical Systems) Should we not be particularly concerned by their voluntary acquisition of a laboratory group that exists as a tool of communists/globalists/Soros and sways elections on their behalf?

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kalendjay muzan-e 4 days ago

We need a public hearing all right. Like Watergate. Reminds me of when Sam Ervin said the telephone is the instrument of the devil. Wiser words I cannot think of.

John Woodard muzan-e 2 days ago

Every precinct in the United States uses a paper trail to ensure results can be audited. Every single vote cast involves a piece of paper with voter selections on it. In Georgia, where Dominion systems were used, the hand audit produced virtually identical results. That was a full hand recount. If the tally machines were switching votes, even a partial audit would pick up on that immediately.

Aurelian 4 days ago

Very good article here, and does a good job explaining why so many of us have trouble taking the claims of fraud seriously. Especially given Trump's long estrangement with truth generally, and his tendency to promote conspiracy theories, especially those which stand to benefit him if believed (see QAnon.)

The issues with electronic voting machines have been known for years, and I've seen the case made convincingly by commentators left, right, and center. I'm certainly glad to have cast a paper ballot in the last election, as everyone in my state does. Hopefully a silver lining from this mess will be the adoption of more robust paper balloting systems nationwide.

John Woodard Aurelian 2 days ago

Everybody casts a paper ballot in one way or another. In the few places that have voting machines (and I think it's very few honestly), a paper ballot is generated for auditing purposes.

Aurelian John Woodard 2 days ago • edited

Per my understanding, electronic voting machines are fairly widespread and fall into several categories. While some states do require a paper ballot to be generated for auditing purposes, there are some states like Kentucky and Indiana that have direct electronic voting without that capability. It is worth noting that none of those states are the swing states now in contention though, and that they are invariably red states.

See here: https://ballotpedia.org/Vot...

Martha Smith John Woodard 13 hours ago

My jurisdiction briefly switched to all-electronic machines, then quickly returned to the paper ballots read by optical scanning device . . . a much better system.

EyeProvidence 4 days ago • edited

"The mistake is in thinking that people are convinced by sheer quantities of evidence."
It works for the democrats, that all they ever do is 'level charges without evidence' in the MSM, and where Tucker was attempting to take Ms. Powell and it seems your on board like all the other conservatives tell us, we have to accept Biden, while we look into voting irregularities and fraud, sometime in the future [post GA's Jan 5th 2nd electronic vote steal].

EliteCommInc. EyeProvidence 4 days ago

I am going to eschew the question about Mr. Carlson and Ms Powell ----

But your observations about what works is accurate. It's a tactic that does work. It works for prosecutors How do you get 50 million people to believe the Russians actually invaded election boards and their processes across the country.

And yet, here we have vast irregularities in differing parts of the country. I think there is a case for fraud, but whether or not that is demonstrated, there is clearly a case for an audit on both machines and mail in ballots. and there absolutely needs to be an audit of votes to registered voters and no one needs to a HS diploma to comprehend that it's near impossible for all mail in ballots to be for x candidate and less than a 6th grade education to know that if you have 2000 registered voters or even a population of 2000 that the total number of votes is never going to exceed 100% -- if it does, there's serious problem.

disqus_5GSc0nKbtM EyeProvidence a day ago

What, no comment forthcoming from you about the terrible, awful, totally crooked election that happened in 2016, with millions and millions of fraudulent votes--- that Trump never looked into? In 4 years? At all?

Until he lost this election? He's been whining about how this election was going to be rigged, couldn't he have skipped a few golf games to actually look into it before it reared its ugly head and kicked him out of the White House? Sure, sure.

Scott 4 days ago • edited

No They haven't ! This thing is just to show President Trump won. And the election was fix. Everyone knows there not going to change anything.

The deep state was never going to let this to happen again. In 2016 they got caught with there thump up there ***

this time they were ready.

President Trump biggest mistake was his picks. AG Barr and Wray both big time never trampers. We the people sound nice but it's 🐂

LgVt 4 days ago

One thing that seems to have gotten lost in the fog--and that definitely got lost by this author--is that Giuliani and Powell are working on effectively two separate cases. Both are working for Trump, and both are working against Biden et al with regards to this election, but there is a clear line of demarcation between the two. Powell's focus is primarily, if not solely, on Dominion and the electronic case, while Giuliani's primary focus is on alleged physical fraud.

It makes no sense to assume that Powell's investigation should have begun four years ago, and then use that as a basis to sneer, as this author does, at Giuliani--whose investigation could not possibly have begun before November 4--for complaining about having to compress a type of investigation that typically takes years into less than a month.

I'm not sure what Powell has. Some of the anomalies she has obliquely referred to are already out there, if you look for them, and they are indeed suspicious (e.g. successive batches of votes, often 10 or more in a row, all with the exact same ratio of Biden-to-Trump votes--a statistical, if not literal, impossibility). However, it doesn't look like those would be enough to swing the election, because even in her telling, if the race had been closer, the Dominion irregularities would not have been discovered at all. The electronic interference was significant, but it wasn't what made the difference.

The meat of this case, with the potential to flip the results, lies with old fashioned physical fraud--ballot-manufacturing and box-stuffing--and Giuliani's mad scramble to find enough evidence in time.

My gut says he won't make it.

There are very strong indications that what Giuliani and the Trump team suspect did indeed happen. Most notable is the Democrats' brazen interference with GOP poll-watchers in multiple states; it is inexplicable if they did not have something to hide. But by the same token, that very interference successfully hid whatever it was that they did, and because of that, they have already gotten away with it--the evidence that Giuliani needs is gone forever.

The room is filled with smoke, but the fire has already been extinguished--and without the fire, Trump can't win.

Kent 4 days ago

"The mistake is in thinking that people are convinced by sheer quantities of evidence."

Evidence, philosophically, is something that is true. If I have an apple in my hand and I reach out and drop it, I can truthfully tell you that it will fall towards the ground. It is evidence of the existence of gravity. I can't see gravity. But I can see the apple fall (and anything else I drop). So can everyone in the world.

An affidavit is not evidence. It is a statement that someone is claiming is true. The statement may or may not be true. So a lot of affidavits is not a "sheer quantity of evidence". It's not evidence at all. Trump supporters need to understand that. And this is why Trump continues to have these court cases thrown out: he is not presenting any real evidence of fraud. Why? Because there isn't any.

REM Kent 4 days ago

You've got this wrong because your definition of evidence is wrong. An affidavit IS evidence.The truthfullness or importance of it is something decided in court. It is evidence just much as a fingerprint at a crime scene is evidence. The relevance of the fingerprint evidence still has to be determined in court.

eddie parolini 4 days ago

What's most obvious to me is that the lawyers making these far-fetched claims didn't themselves believe the claims. The effort was geared to flood the zone, so to speak, to create confusion and doubt resulting in state legislatures stepping in to settle electoral vote allocations.
Sowing doubt this way might be acceptable in criminal court, where defense lawyers are trying to establish reasonable doubt, however, here the objective should be to determine what happened, and not inventing things that might have happened.

Soros, Chavez, Spain and communists? I believe the term is "jumping the shark."

Adriana Pena eddie parolini 3 days ago

Those lawyers risk being charged with barratry. And it could cost them their licenses.

Miles R. 4 days ago

Mr. Jalsevac confuses two different facts under heading no. 6, "The U.S. electoral system is a mess." (1) The US electoral system is not a genuine system at all but an aggregate of electoral systems that vary by state and even by county. (2) Some of these systems are untrustworthy. It is clear that the second fact is cause for concern and in need of remedy. It is not so clear that the first one is. The diversity of electoral systems is a feature that contributes to the difficulty of manipulating national electoral results. It is the chief reason why the Trump team has had to resort to grotesque conspiracistic fantasies to maintain its claim that Trump is the legitimate winner.

Carlo Cristofori 4 days ago

"Durable, hand marked paper ballots must be established as the national standard for democratic elections in the United States. While using paper may sound antiquated, the consensus among election security experts is that nothing else provides the needed reliability,security, and transparency. Durable, voter marked paper ballots are appropriate technology for public elections....Hand Counted Paper Ballots are considered the 'Gold Standard' of democratic elections" ~ National Election Defense Coalition https://www.electiondefense...

Feral Finster Yourcenar 4 days ago • edited

Are there any electronic voting machines in Team D-controlled states? How did they get there? Did they sneak in across the border? Which political party held the presidency from 2008-2016? Were they pushing relentlessly for paper ballots, hand counted in public? For that matter, following the 2016 election, I heard lots of conspiracy theory talk from Team D, but little in the way advocating for paper ballots, hand-counted in public.

The Senate report was long on words, light on specifics. Great, if continuing a new cold war is your objective. Note that the House did not impeach on that basis, after two years and change of promising russiagate bombshells that never came.

marku52 Feral Finster 4 days ago

Both parties are in favor of hackable machines when they can get their hands on them. Neither advocates for clearly transparent elections.

gnt Feral Finster 4 days ago

According to this article, there are 8 states still using voting machines that produce no paper trail. It's not a long article, but I extracted this list:

"eight states that will use some form of paperless voting in 2020: Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kansas, Indiana, Kentucky and New Jersey. "

https://thehill.com/policy/...

gnt 4 days ago

There have been Democrats complaining about electronic voting machines for at least the last 20 years. You're a bit late to the party, but you're welcome to join. Our democracy works best when citizens are willing to work together toward goals on which they agree, regardless of whether or not they agree on all goals.

I would also be glad to see bipartisan electoral reform, but only if includes measures taken to protect votes before the actual voting starts. Some of the voter suppression measures we.ve seen in the last few years are:
- Purging of voter rolls near an election to keep voters from having a chance to vote
- Implementing postal procedures to reduce the speed of mail delivery to make it more difficult to vote by mail
- Removing mail sorting machines and post office drop boxes to make it more difficult to vote by mail
- Reducing the number of polling sites in areas populated by the other political party to complicate voting in person
- Rejecting mailed in ballots because trivial differences in the signature, such as a missing middle initial.

All of the Republican handwringing about "voter fraud" in the election seems to boil down to complaints that the judges stopped their efforts to steal the election. Some of that gets dressed up with pontification about the importance of the credibility of the election. The credibility of an election is supremely important, but voter suppression damages that credibility as much as voter fraud.

gnt 4 days ago

I noticed you did not mention the Ramsland affidavit in your discussion of the competence of Trump's legal team. The affidavit attempts to identify areas in Michigan in which more votes were cast than the number of registered voters. Unfortunately, all the examples provided were in Minnesota. That does not suggest thorough research. In addition, the areas listed in the affidavit tend to be in very Republican areas of Minnesota, suggesting that any voter fraud may be as likely to be Republican as it is to be Democratic.

Mark Thomason 3 days ago

"Keeping copies of the physical ballots does nothing to assuage these concerns"

I disagree. Here in Michigan we do regular hand checks of randomly chosen scanners, and of all of them if any problem arises. It has been remarkably accurate in my town.

The opposite of such scanning is prolonged counting, by fallible humans some of them partisan and fighting with other partisans. I don't see advantage there.

But yes, hacking of any electronic device is a monster problem, and must be addressed by regular and randomized physical confirmation, just as is done with any quality control issue.

Annie from Alaska Mark Thomason 3 days ago

To be effective against fraud the count needs to be compelled by law and done on a truly random sampling of ballots until statistical near-certainty of the result through hand-counting alone is achieved, falling back to a count of all ballots if the election is close.

Optional procedures executed in creative ways by goofy partisans is what "regular hand checks" sounds like to me, though I may be wrong.

I agree it's not worthless to save the ballots, and I'd even agree with you far enough to disagree with the author and say it's possible to design a good manual-check procedure. But I read what he said as a simplification of the truth: in 2016 there was so much sillyness in the law and the implementation of recount procedures that it'd be better if the machines weren't there at all, and I doubt that's changed.

Mark Thomason Annie from Alaska 3 days ago

When it is close, we by law have an automatic 100% recount of machine scanned ballots by hand. That is what was done in 2016. That was discontinued by agreement of both political parties after the initial round of those counts showed zero error. Zero. By agreement. Thus, it can be done. But you are correct about the sampling idea, and the need for uniform enforceable law on the matter.

Johnson 3 days ago

Now we're being told that we must simply believe Powell's theory that these companies stole the election.

No, you must either do your own investigating to try and ascertain the truth, (which NO media outlet seems to be doing) or keep an open mind that Powell will be able to prove what she says. Powell is not some two-bit lawyer. She's a seasoned federal prosecutor putting a lot on the line in making these claims. Grant her a modicum of respect in entertaining the possibility that she can back up what she says.

Also, the Trump campaign has filed exactly 3, and now 4 lawsuits - not 30-something as is continually and falsely reported and regurgitated by the media. The other lawsuits are by supporters and allies, but not Trump's lawyers. Yes, it's hard to keep up, but YOUR JOB is to at least try. Thank you.

John Seiler 3 days ago

I suggest young Master Jalsevac spend a couple of years living in one of our fine major cities to see how things really are run outside of political philosophy books.

Thomas Storck 3 days ago

One of the oddest things about this is that in the past, particularly in 2004, many Democrats charged that the Republicans had stolen the election, particularly in Ohio. Google: 2004 election stolen. You will find a lot of hits. Does anyone remember Diebold voting machines? Are they still in use? Were they manipulated on behalf of Republicans, then or later? I have no idea. But I want to make a few points: 1. Liberals have at times complained loudly about stolen elections and the ease of manipulating electronic results by various Republican-connected people. 2. Whether these were true or not have they ever been sufficiently investigated? 3. Why, now is it only a vast liberal conspiracy that is alleged to exist, and not perhaps the still existing conservative conspiracy from 2004? In November 2005 Mother Jones reviewed a book, Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too

Woland Thomas Storck 3 days ago

The voting machine division of Diebold was taken over by Dominion Voting Systems. That's the easiest conspiracy theory in history. The real question, if you want to believe, is why the Republicans sold their election-stealer to the Democrats.

KevinS 3 days ago • edited

The Judge's decision in the PA case Rudy "argued." He is a absolute disgrace!

The full decision is here:

https://www.courtlistener.c...

This conclusion:

"In other words, Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated. One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.

That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. Therefore, I grant Defendants' motions and dismiss Plaintiffs' action with prejudice."

Robert Gardner 3 days ago

You know, this kind of reasonable and thoughtful writing is why, as a liberal, I like coming over here to the dark side of town to see what's going on. Even while struggling to present an open mind, he admits to being buried in the silliness of it all. A good read. Not surprised to see all these calls for crucifixion in the comments.

Hannibal Barca Robert Gardner 3 days ago

You know, this kind of reasonable and thoughtful writing .......

It is neither reasonable or thoughtful. It pretends to be condemning the defense while pretending that they would otherwise have a case. And he is refusing to acknowledge that the why Trump has to turn to Rudy - his last resort - is because the reputable lawyers he had on his team are refusing to make bogus claims in court; to be fair, so does Rudy, but he is willing to make them to the press and they are not.

Even while struggling to present an open mind, he admits to being buried in the silliness of it all.

You are doing what Liberals so often do. They are so hungry for a Republican who is not calling them names and willing to admit that Trump is at fault, that they completely miss the point that the "admission" is trying to make. When Comey admitted that Hillary Clinton omitted no indictable offense, they praised him for his "fairness". But he was not being fair at all. He would have to be an evil crook to indict the nominee of one of our major parties when he knew she could not be convicted. But he broke every rule of propriety and launched into a condemnation that handed Trump what he needed to win the election. So this writer admitted that Trump is making no case . So what? You seem to have missed the fact that he is falsely claiming that Trump does have case to make. And that claim is utterly baseless!

I am not a partisan. I detest political parties. But I also detest seeing partisans complimented for being non-partisan for simply not being on the raving extreme of their party. It lowers the standard of what it beings to be non-partisan. Non-partisan means to make judgements consistently on principle, applying the same standards to everyone. I expect that many Republicans will read my post and conclude that I am being partisan - because that is taken nowadays to mean "condemns my party". But I get accused just as often by Democrats to being a Republican, so that is alright with me. But in so far as this particular quarrel is concerned, President Trump has no case at all. The Pennsylvania elections were run be declared Republicans. Prominent Republicans, and they gave both Republican Senators more votes. They counted the legal votes as they were cast. They ran a fair, honest and honorable election!

Robert Gardner Hannibal Barca 3 days ago

Thanks for the magnificent reply, 414 words, all thoughtful. You may have me there in your sterner criticism of Rod's equivocation about Trump, but consider the audience, after all. As for being a liberal hungry for a conservative who is not an asshole, guilty as charged. You make a good point that Rod still seems still to yearn for Trump to have a case to make and that is true, but I think Rod is fairly conflicted in this and other conundrums conservatives must find themselves as the whole enterprise sinks into hopelessness and tawdry hopelessness at that. It is a hard row to hoe, after all. I never said he was non-partisan, just a poor conservative religious guy trying to make his way in the difficult world while continuing to try to be a decent man. It is what is endearing about his writing to me sometimes. But I thank you for this response, it shows both feeling and intelligence.

John Woodard Robert Gardner 2 days ago

This is not the dark side. There are way darker places than TAC.

[Nov 25, 2020] Mark Steyn Interviews Sidney Powell on Rush Limbaugh Show - The Last Refuge

Nov 25, 2020 | theconservativetreehouse.com

David Vicknair , November 18, 2020 at 12:12 am

Unfortunately IMHO, the Kraken was either a careless misspeak or a bluff to shake the trees to see if a whistleblower would fall out. If the later, it failed. If the former, I am inclined to give Sidney a break. She has done yeoman's work for Flynn. And so the Kraken seems destined to remain a creature of Scandinavian lore and Hollywood movies. I wish it were not so. The Dominion software apparently is easily hacked and allows votes to be directly manipulated without a trace. Hard to make a case without an audit trail. I wonder whether the outcry from MAGA supporters will be sufficient to encourage states to choose a more secure vendor or will Dominion still be in widespread use during the midterms? Kemp, Raffensberger and company should be ridden out of GA on a rail after a good tar and feathering. Other states have their own corrupt actors who should receive the same consideration. They all have sold us out -- if the Dems take the Senate, even to slavery under socialism -- for 30 pieces of silver. As for Kemp and Raffensberger, in a different age I might have suggested an appointment with a high, sturdy branch in one of GA's many 100 plus years old live oaks.

Maximus-Cassius , November 18, 2020 at 9:50 am

"Releasing the Kraken" would be Trump invoking BOTH the Insurrection Act AND his 2018 EO protecting against foreign intervention in our elections.

Will it happe? Who knows, but if Trump is to survive, IMO, that is his ONLY card left to play.

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 9:33 pm

It's going to be a bloodbath, on all levels.

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 10:23 pm

As I listened to Lin's interview today I tho't that there must be something in the Southern water. Both he and Sidney have that Southern drawl. Very genteel, polished and extremely intelligent.

I am a very brave soul, but I don't think I would want to go up against either of them in a court of law. 🙂

JustDoItNow , November 17, 2020 at 9:28 pm

I forget who it was, either Lou or Tucker, that ended their interview telling Sidney half jokingly to remember to lock her doors at night.
Please remember to PRAY God's protection for this wonderful woman!

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GB Bari , November 18, 2020 at 12:03 am

I have no doubt the President has put a very capable guard team around Sidney & family.

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Pvt. Idaho , November 18, 2020 at 1:37 am

It was Mark Levin who told her.

UniPartySlayer , November 17, 2020 at 9:37 pm

When are they going to lay out the case? Lin Wood and Sidney have been making serious statements. They have reputations beyond reproach. I believe them when they say they have the goods. It's like they have to get the election called for Trump or they will surely be political prisoners.

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 10:04 pm

Count on it! And DEFINITELY 2018.

IF you watch the movie "Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America's Elections"* you will see that a steal was supposed to happen in Florida that day and it got thwarted, before it got started,

PLUS, they didn't have the mail in ballot scheme in place yet to back up their theft back then. China Virus was their plandemic to make that happen, and to get the cash from the Care$ Act to get machines for everyone.

*"(2020)From voter registration to counting ballots, data security expert Harri Hursti examines how hackers can influence and disrupt the U.S. election system."

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 10:49 pm

This is the video I took it from. This is the Eric Coomer Whistleblower.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/9tHeiYgErnw?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en&autohide=2&wmode=transparent

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jessetmims , November 17, 2020 at 10:33 pm

@ Right to reply In my opinion, the Democrats SUCCESSFULLY stole JFK's election, at least one of Bill Clinton's, and BOTH of Obama's.

James Urso , November 17, 2020 at 11:03 pm

Love Sidney Powell but that interview did not give me a lot of confidence. I sure hope she has some solid evidence. Doesn't sound like she has much though. Don't have much time left.

Biggest heist in the history of the US and nothing can be done about it is sickening. Barr and Wray should be ashamed of themselves for letting something like this happen on their watch. They did nothing. Thanks to them the constitution is now worth nothing. The rights are gone. Law and order is gone. We are on our own.

How do Barr and Wray even look at themselves in the mirror?

Ospreyzone , November 18, 2020 at 6:46 am

Finally, I found out from this interview where I could send money to support this legal effort. I'm tired of the RNC doing nothing. Sidney Powell will get my direct support now.
DefendingtheRepublic.org – is the right place.

[Nov 25, 2020] Krystal Ball- Exposes Centrist LIES About Why They FAILED

Nov 25, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Peter Sepall
, 1 week ago

Defund the rich sociopaths using the police for their own purposes.

Robert Telford , 1 week ago

Why do they get called blue ' dogs'? I'm kind of offended on behalf of dogs

[Nov 25, 2020] Sharyl Attkisson on Big Tech Censorship- Sheep Are Happy to Live in Artificial Reality

Nov 25, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Sharyl Attkisson on Big Tech Censorship: Sheep Are Happy to Live in Artificial Reality 132

FILE - In this Jan. 29, 2015 file photo, reporter Sharyl Attkisson testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee. A federal appeals court is set to hear arguments in a lawsuit filed by a former CBS News reporter alleging that Obama administration officials violated her constitutional rights by hacking into her
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ROBERT KRAYCHIK 24 Nov 2020 111 3:54

Sharyl Attkisson, host of Full Measure and author of Slanted: How the News Media Taught Us to Love Censorship and Hate Journalism , told Breitbart News on Tuesday that big tech companies reinforce news media's "artificial reality" of political narratives through censorship of inconvenient information.

A homogenized news media industry seeks to impose its view of acceptable parameters of political discourse on the broader public, Attkisson stated. She highlighted technology companies' reinforcement of news media perspectives through their restriction of access to contrary information.

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"The way those who want to shape and manipulate our opinion see it, they have to portray those who are not on board with the narrative as somebody who's off the reservation [and] not to be believed," Attkisson said.

News media and big tech will "controversialize" dissidents challenging their orthodoxies, Attkisson stated.

"As the news has been yanked further and further left, we're portrayed as the right for simply being in the middle," Attkisson remarked, "and this is part of the redefining of n ews and the information landscape today."

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Bad faith news media manipulators have applied their tools to the online realm, Attkisson warned.

"The people who wanted to shape public opinion were very good in the past two decades at learning how to control the news media and make sure that they control the terms of how we talk about a story, that we interview the right people, that we don't talk about certain topics, and we use their talking points," Attkisson stated.

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The political ascendance and election of President Donald Trump "frightened" news media manipulators, Attkisson determined.

Attkisson lamented that some news media consumers are "perfectly happy" to have social media companies and other technology firms restrict their access to information while providing "fake fact checks."

"Sheep who don't do their own research" will trust self-appointed "fact-checkers" to inform them, added Attkisson.

Attkisson remarked, "When these powerful interests found they couldn't control information online after they had pretty much had success doing it on the news, they got busy online and these are the same forces that are trying to make sure when you get on social media or do a Google search, what you're going to be hit with is this artificial reality that they want you to believe and see."

Increasingly aggressive big tech censorship reveals as a lack of fear on the part of technology companies regarding consequences from either the public or government, Attkisson estimated.

"They were doing it in a fairly secretive way with algorithms and shaping searches and so on," Attkisson said, "but I feel like there was a sense of desperation in those weeks before the election when these powerful interests sensed that there could be a second President Trump term, and they began just stepping in and censoring things so overtly that there was no denying it, and they didn't care that people saw outright that accounts were being cancelled, and these crazy labels were going on factually correct information, or opinions but claiming were false. They didn't care, because they knew -- and they rightly calculated -- that they wouldn't be held accountable for that before the election, and quite frankly, I think they won't be held accountable for that after the election.

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Attkisson identified the coronavirus outbreak as an intensely targeted subject by the news media and big tech partnership of information control. She held that "powerful interests" have assembled a "very organized movement" to discredit journalists asking "logical questions" about "certain aspects of the coronavirus."

Attkisson said journalists questioning ubiquitous news media coronavirus claims are derided as "coronavirus doubters."

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[Nov 25, 2020] Any social programs that benefit the working class are, in fact, affirmative action programs

Notable quotes:
"... Identitarianism is a far more effective strategy at watering down the left than any Red Scare or McCarthyist witch hunt ever was. ..."
Nov 25, 2020 | www.youtube.com



Viewable11
, 2 days ago

"Affirmative Action" is an euphemism for bigotry.

parallelworldsguy , 5 days ago

"Any social programs that benefit the working class are, in fact, affirmative action programs."-Krystal. So true.


Nathaniel Allen
, 5 days ago

Damn, Krystal dropping one of her classic heaters today: "Affirmative action is the type of program that poses little threat and only benefits to affluent white liberals. It's the college admissions version of identity politics: more about getting brown faces in high places to make WHITE people feel good than it is about actually addressing the very real problems it seeks to ameliorate." - Krystal Ball


Will J
, 5 days ago

As a black person I hate to admit that I've bought into the BS all of this time but she is absolutely right. All of her data is correct. AA is just a tool for bourgeoisie blacks to get into better schools. Period. Nothing else. Stop trying to sell it as some saving grace that it is not. The point about student loans is exactly right. If you want to help a ton of black people with college then do something about this BS student loan situation.


Jackson Morgan
, 5 days ago

the term "brunch liberals" is pure gold 😂


Chris Colon
, 5 days ago

Identitarianism is a far more effective strategy at watering down the left than any Red Scare or McCarthyist witch hunt ever was.


halfeatenwaffle
, 9 hours ago (edited)

"White Saviors" is a way to say what we've been saying all along. Affirmative Action IS racist. You are saying that someone needs help because of their skin color, as if that makes them inferior. Racist.


Bert C
, 1 day ago

When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequality in Twentieth-Century America, by Ira Katznelson (W.W. Norton & Company, New York, 2005), preface, appendix, index, 238 pp.


trinnas
, 9 hours ago

How does it help the poor to have $15 minimum wage when they are priced out of the job market and you have raised the overall cost of living?

[Nov 25, 2020] Identity politics - the best scam to save billionaire scum

Nov 25, 2020 | www.youtube.com

B Stily , 1 week ago

Identity politics - the best scam to save billionaire scum

[Nov 25, 2020] Biden administration motto

Nov 25, 2020 | www.youtube.com

purplehearts , 6 days ago

Covid death = bad. War death = good.

[Nov 25, 2020] Looks like the Klintonator missed out on getting the position of Defense Secretary and the post of US ambassador to the UN

Nov 25, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jen , Nov 24 2020 18:50 utc | 33

Caliman @ 28:

The Klintonator missed out on getting the position of Defense Secretary and the post of US ambassador to the UN. Never mind, whatever she needs to know what Biden, then Harris is up to, Jake Sullivan will send the information to her through his private email server.

[Nov 25, 2020] When I read the Janet Yellen was the Treasury pick I shuddered a bit at the thought of an almost all female leadership cast when the ship goes down....ah, the smell of patriarchy in the morning

Nov 25, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

psychohistorian , Nov 24 2020 17:21 utc | 13

When I read the Janet Yellen was the Treasury pick I shuddered a bit at the thought of an almost all female leadership cast when the ship goes down....ah, the smell of patriarchy in the morning

Watching the demise of our current empire in what seems to be slow motion is fascinating. How long will it take to lose faith/control of the private monetary system? Given the incoming foreign policy team it looks like continuation of failed policies of the past.

We can only hope that the rest of the world continues to build an alternative world than the one proscribed by the dying empire of the West.

[Nov 25, 2020] NBC News giving us another lesson of professional journalism

Nov 25, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Paco , Nov 24 2020 17:12 utc | 9

The BBC is something, but we have NBC News giving us another lesson of professional journalism with this headline:

Russia chases off U.S. warship in spat over territorial waters

The confrontation was the latest in a string of close contacts between Russian and American forces across the globe.

Maybe I do not understand some hidden message, but at first sight I would imagine maybe it is the Bering Strait or somewhere in the middle of the Pacific or Atlantic Oceans, or across the world, but no, it is just a few miles off Vladivostok. The distance from Seattle to Vladivostok is almost five thousand miles, so we have a US destroyer five thousand miles from home sniffing the Russians at about 10 miles from their main city and Pacific Ocean military base, yeah its only a spat, and it is only freedom of navigation right in the kitchen of your main rival. Keep it on USA, maybe one of these days you're going to have the Russians or Chinese right by the Golden Gate Bridge or by Puget Sound enforcing free navigation for all. One more detail, the US vessel was the destroyer John McCain, a true friend of Russia and East Asia, or maybe the navy guys are just welcoming the new Biden team.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-chases-u-s-warship-spat-over-territorial-waters-sea-n1248759

[Nov 25, 2020] Some truth spoken in the current political mess

Nov 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

CheapBastard , 5 hours ago

Protesters in Michigan interrupt a live broadcast of CNN with chants of "CNN sucks".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRF-r_duko

LOL.

[Nov 25, 2020] Some recommendations about how to deal with generals who think that they are politicians

Nov 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


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zerofucks , 5 hours ago

too bad trumps a vagina because if he had balls this problem would be easy enough to solve. but this is why trump is a one and done - when he is dealt 4 aces he folds like origami

FreemonSandlewould , 5 hours ago

Do tell. Easy?

Go ahead. List the steps. No hand waving. List the steps.

zerofucks , 5 hours ago

step 1. recall general mattis

step 2. use the UCMJ to demote him all the way down to private

step 3. PNG anyone in his family or any known friends from any/all govt work/contracts

step 4. transfer him to coords 100 miles out of nome, AK with a 45 and 8 rounds for an entire winter.

easy enough

[Nov 25, 2020] Trump blasts Mattis after he urges Biden to eliminate "America First" policy

Nov 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

leosden , 4 hours ago

And that coming from Trump who put APARTHEID Israel first

and did more for that racist country than he did for America.

zerofucks , 4 hours ago

Trump knee capped himself - on purpose

Once he bombed Syria 70ish days into his term he was done with MAGA

smellmyfingers , 5 hours ago

The banksters.

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested.

Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents".

General Smedley D. Butler

[Nov 25, 2020] Woke academics who racialise exam results are wrongly suggesting white students are innately more intelligent than black ones

Nov 25, 2020 | www.rt.com

apothqowejh 1 day ago 23 Nov, 2020 01:21 PM

Well, if they are seriously math challenged, they can always get jobs as poll workers.

[Nov 25, 2020] Bernie and Warren sold out for nothing lol.

Nov 25, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Saagar Enjeti- Biden's Cabinet Is FULL Of Deficit Hawks, War Lovers and Globalists - YouTube



crickey73
, 1 day ago

Well, looks like Bernie's prophecy of the next Trump looming on the horizon will come to fruition.


Javier Espana
, 1 day ago

You call them "Hawks", they are more like vultures

Adriano de Jesus , 1 day ago

Bernie and Warren sold out for nothing lol.

[Nov 25, 2020] Civil War II, Here We Come - The American Conservative

Nov 25, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The musical Biden , translated from the original Ukrainian, replaced Hamilton on Broadway despite the controversial Obama nude scene. America's largest industry remained Patreon accounts as Etsy devolved into a market for the wealthy to purchase human organs.

The U.S. government is currently looking for a new place for a capitol building, because after the move out of Washington to a Brooklyn WeWork prices have really gone up. Negotiations to invite Canada in as a roommate to share the rent are underway.

The good news is the important things are still the same. Most decisions are still made by the heads of the intel agencies when they meet at Jeff Bezos' house. American troops are still in Afghanistan. And the Rolling Stones have announced their for sure this time final tour. Even after a second civil war some things don't change.

[Nov 24, 2020] Archie Bunker

Nov 24, 2020 | disqus.com

an hour ago

Democrats the Media and Big Tech rendered the Voter obsolete.

[Nov 24, 2020] 'Manipulative BULLS--T'- Glenn Greenwald defends calling NBC a CIA mouthpiece, mocks accusation of 'endangering journalists'

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Greenwald earlier this week said NBC "has always existed to disseminate US government, CIA and corporate propaganda." ..."
"... NBC also helped the CIA sell the Iraq War on its Meet the Press program, and sister network MSNBC was "ground zero for mindless CIA stenography of the most unhinged Russiagate conspiracy theories," he said. ..."
"... The C.I.A. owns anyone of any significance in the media. -William Colby. Former Director of the CIA. In 1974, the Rockefeller Commission was established to investigate shennanigans carried out by the Agency. President Ford fired William Colby and replaced him with George Herbert Walker Bush. Why? Because Gerald Ford thought that Colby was being too honest with the Commission about CIA wrong doings. ..."
"... Interestingly, Gerald Ford was often referred to as "The CIA's Best Friend in The Senate", which would explain his old appointment to the Warren Commission. It was Ford who ordered JFK's bullet wound in the back to be raised six inches up to his neck, thus allowing Arlen Specter to float his "Magic bullet Theory" ..."
"... As is not generally known, Bush I was lifetime CIA and became I believe the first CIA President. There is a little known picture of a young Bush standing outside the Texas Book Depository on the day of the assassination. ..."
"... The CIA controls the media in subtle ways. Blacklists for instance. I have experience after one of my buddies fell for the spiel of an agent provocateur. Never trust anyone, always assume they could be CIA and assess what damage they can do to you (and your associates) before you interact with them. Misleading them would be best. ..."
"... As shocking as it may sound, Glenn is stating the obvious. Even AFP and Reuters are CIA mouthpieces. Look up Operation Mockingbird. Look up "propaganda multiplier" by the Swiss policy research. ..."
"... Interesting that nobody even tried to deny it, they just come up with the same line they used to attack Wikileaks for telling the truth: exposing this might put out operatives at risk. ..."
"... Perilous Environments because the CIA is probably manipulating another of its regimes change, to very undemocratically put someone they control into office. Surely you remember Poroshenko? ..."
"... Operation Mockingbird was a secret CIA effort to influence and control the American media. The first report of the program came in 1979 in the biography of Katharine Graham, the owner of the Washington Post, written by Deborah Davis. Davis wrote that the program was established by Frank Wisner, the director of the Office of Policy Coordination, a covert operations unit created under the National Security Council. ..."
"... Reporters who work for the CIA are not spies, because the CIA is a lying agency, not a spying agency. If a terrorist accuses you of being a CIA agent, you can honestly reply that the CIA is the terrorist's friend. ..."
"... The CIA wants the world to believe that China, Russia and Iran are the leading state sponsors of terrorism, and that those seeking the overthrow of Syria's Bashar al-Assad are freedom fighters, not terrorists... ..."
Nov 22, 2020 | www.rt.com

Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald torched accusations that he endangered reporters by saying NBC News spouts CIA propaganda, saying he only spoke of a well-known fact, and the effort to shame him was "manipulative bulls**t."

"Profoundly sorry for endangering the lives of NBC executives and TV personalities by spilling the extremely well-kept secret of their close working relationship with the CIA," Greenwald tweeted sarcastically on Saturday. His message showed a picture of a headline about NBC's 2018 hiring of ex-CIA chief John Brennan as an NBC and MSNBC contributor.

Greenwald's retort came in reply to reporter Sulome Anderson, who accused him of endangering journalists who work in places where any CIA affiliation is "life-threatening." Greenwald earlier this week said NBC "has always existed to disseminate US government, CIA and corporate propaganda."

"This crosses a line," Anderson said. "Like some of his proteges, Glenn is endangering journalists working in perilous environments by telling his massive following that they are mouthpieces for US intelligence."

Greenwald said on Saturday that NBC has a "long-standing role" in spouting CIA propaganda, as evidenced by its hiring of Ken Dilanian, who was accused of sharing stories with the CIA press office prior to publication while working as a Los Angeles Times reporter. NBC also helped the CIA sell the Iraq War on its Meet the Press program, and sister network MSNBC was "ground zero for mindless CIA stenography of the most unhinged Russiagate conspiracy theories," he said.

"If you don't want to be known as a CIA outpost, then don't be one," Greenwald tweeted. He added that NBC hired "John Brennan, Ken Dilanian and every other operative puked up by the security state. People already know."

Anderson has written at least two opinion pieces on Lebanon for NBC in recent months. She has been critical of Hezbollah, designated a terrorist group by the US government, but also has interviewed some of its fighters.

Anderson, who said she is "morally opposed" to journalists working as intelligence agents, may have good reason for her sensitivity about alleged CIA ties. Her parents were both journalists who covered Lebanon's 15-year civil war, and she said her father was kidnapped by terrorists.

"They tortured him again and again for years, calling him CIA," she said Saturday on Twitter. "'I am not a spy,' he would scream. 'I am a reporter.' It never stopped them."

Anderson acknowledged journalists being used as intelligence-agency assets, but said such cases are rare. "Time and again, American hostages – journalists and otherwise – have been falsely called spies, tortured and killed," she said. "I have been in many situations where I've had to convince the very dangerous men I am with that I am not a spy. My saving grace has always been that I am not."

Greenwald came to international fame by breaking the Edward Snowden NSA whistleblower story in 2013. He later co-founded the Intercept but quit the outlet last month after saying editors there suppressed his coverage of Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden.


fezzie035fezzm 19 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 11:52 PM

The C.I.A. owns anyone of any significance in the media. -William Colby. Former Director of the CIA. In 1974, the Rockefeller Commission was established to investigate shennanigans carried out by the Agency. President Ford fired William Colby and replaced him with George Herbert Walker Bush. Why? Because Gerald Ford thought that Colby was being too honest with the Commission about CIA wrong doings.

Bush, as the new Director, stonewalled the hearings and put the lid on any information coming out, which would explain why CIA Headquarters in Langley was named after Bush. Colby is no longer among the living. Let's just say that he didn't die from "natural causes".

Interestingly, Gerald Ford was often referred to as "The CIA's Best Friend in The Senate", which would explain his old appointment to the Warren Commission. It was Ford who ordered JFK's bullet wound in the back to be raised six inches up to his neck, thus allowing Arlen Specter to float his "Magic bullet Theory"

JOHNCHUCKMAN fezzie035fezzm 1 hour ago 22 Nov, 2020 05:48 PM
Yes, Colby was an unusually frank man at times. He also told us about the ghastly Operation Phoenix in Vietnam, a CIA run assassination scheme of village leaders and prominent men. They killed 30 or 40 thousand people by sending in belly-crawling special forces guys to enter villages at night and cut throats.

As is not generally known, Bush I was lifetime CIA and became I believe the first CIA President. There is a little known picture of a young Bush standing outside the Texas Book Depository on the day of the assassination. You'll find it on my site Chuckman's Words in Comments on Wordpress. Its title to search is: A REMARKABLE DULL LITTLE PHOTOGRAPH OF GEORGE H W BUSH WITH EXPLOSIVE SUGGESTIONS. Sorry, but RT doesn't like links.

Of course, Colby himself may have been assassinated. He had a very odd boating accident.

Ally Hauptmann-Gurski 20 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 11:14 PM
The CIA controls the media in subtle ways. Blacklists for instance. I have experience after one of my buddies fell for the spiel of an agent provocateur. Never trust anyone, always assume they could be CIA and assess what damage they can do to you (and your associates) before you interact with them. Misleading them would be best.
Enorm 22 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 09:01 PM
NBC operatives don't have an opinion. They follow da money,. I feel sorry for folks glued to propaganda TV.
Oregon Observer Enorm 21 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 09:41 PM
WikiLeaks and other investigative outfits have looked at the conglomerates over the years and over half of them are CIA "assets"...
Chris Cottrell 22 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 08:25 PM
Are they spies? Probably not. Are they tools of the CIA even if unwittingly, yes.
Oregon Observer Chris Cottrell 21 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 09:43 PM
Most ARE spies in every sense of the term. They look for specific information that they pass onto their handler(s). It bears noting that the FBI and the 10,000 or so outfits that contract with them and NSA and DHS and the pentagon and the various state Fusion programs are as bad or worse and every stinking one if those outfits recruits reporters.
fakiho2 21 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 09:28 PM
As shocking as it may sound, Glenn is stating the obvious. Even AFP and Reuters are CIA mouthpieces. Look up Operation Mockingbird. Look up "propaganda multiplier" by the Swiss policy research.
shadow1369 fakiho2 6 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 12:30 PM
Interesting that nobody even tried to deny it, they just come up with the same line they used to attack Wikileaks for telling the truth: exposing this might put out operatives at risk. My response to that is good, time to have these roaches taken out.
Edward698 18 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 01:43 AM
You can bet on Glenn to tell you the truth unlike the main stream media which fed us with lots of non sense on Syria. Read his interview with "Democracy now": .... Glenn Greenwald on "Submissive" Media's Drumbeat for War and "Despicable" Anti-Muslim Scapegoating By Democracy Now! ....

GLENN GREENWALD: Well, first of all, that clip is unbelievable. It is literally one of the three most important military officials of the entire war on terror, General Flynn, who was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. He's saying that the U.S. government knew that by creating a vacuum in Syria and then flooding that region with arms and money, that it was likely to result in the establishment of a caliphate by Islamic extremists in eastern Syria -- which is, of course, exactly what happened.

They knew that that was going to happen, and they proceeded to do it anyway. So when the U.S. government starts trying to point the finger at other people for helping ISIS, they really need to have a mirror put in front of them, because, by their own documents, as that extraordinary clip demonstrates, they bear huge responsibility for that happening, to say nothing of the fact that, as I said, their closest allies in the region actually fund it.

Debra Edward698 14 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 05:37 AM
The US was not only counting on their ISIS creation to destabilize Syria in the hope of an Assad exit but also to decimate the Hezbollah. I credit the Hezbollah for saving Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq, but they suffered heavy, heavy losses. "So when the U.S. government starts trying to point the finger at other people for helping ISIS, they really need to have a mirror put in front of them, because, by their own documents, as that extraordinary clip demonstrates, they bear huge responsibility for that happening, to say nothing of the fact that, as I said, their closest allies in the region actually fund it."
frankfalseflag 19 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 12:08 AM
** "Glenn is endangering journalists working in perilous environments by telling. . ." ** . . Perilous Environments because the CIA is probably manipulating another of its regimes change, to very undemocratically put someone they control into office. Surely you remember Poroshenko? ...
pogohere 21 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 10:16 PM
Operation Mockingbird was a secret CIA effort to influence and control the American media. The first report of the program came in 1979 in the biography of Katharine Graham, the owner of the Washington Post, written by Deborah Davis. Davis wrote that the program was established by Frank Wisner, the director of the Office of Policy Coordination, a covert operations unit created under the National Security Council.

According to Davis, Wisner recruited Philip Graham of the Washington Post to head the project within the media industry. Davis wrote that, "By the early 1950s, Wisner 'owned' respected members of The New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles."

Davis also writes that Allen Dulles convinced Cord Meyer, who later became Mockingbird's "principal operative," to join the CIA in 1951.

The Taliban Won the War 7 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 12:28 PM
It is true and it is an undisputed fact that all Western governments use Journalists, aid workers and so called human relief organisations as cover for espionage, undercover and dark operations. Not just that, they also use exchange teachers and students, they use priests and pastors. They use anything and anyone that can hid
Isiah Steele 8 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 11:45 AM
The Motion Picture Industry of Hollywood, too are CIA! Propagates: war and constant US Military dominated narratives.
Sergio Weigel 16 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 03:31 AM
I'm pretty sure that most journalists don't know, or don't wanna know, the dirty open secret that editorial lines of most outlets are indeed determined or influenced by the CIA. The trouble is their working conditions. There are far more journalists than job openings, and they already earn badly. In order to keep the job, they just play ball, and as humans are, they make themselves believe that what they were doing was just right. Cognitive dissonance, and the result is outrage and defensive anger when someone points out their hypocrisy. That is also why they avoid to even read alternative media, they don't have their noses pointed to it. In a way, we can pity them. Then again, why become a journalist these days?
shadow1369 Sergio Weigel 7 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 12:43 PM
I used to think maybe 'journalists' were simply misled, but the narrative on too many stories, from 9/11 to Iraq, from Syria to the ukraine, from the Skripals to Navalny, was so ludicrous that a five year old could see through the lies. Nope, they know full well that they are lying, and do so regardless. A great example was when some bbc l!cksp!ttle was interviewing a general about events in Syria. Somehow they got the wrong guy, or he had not been properly briefed, because his responses were factual and balanced. After trying to challenge him, the interviewer finally said 'Don't you realise this is an informatioon war'.
Debra 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 03:11 PM
This is another warning for people: Over the last two years Facebook has been advertising for viewers to join Facebook groups. Many political groups on Facebook are set up by CIA and FBI agents. Facebook is full of agents, and that is why the ones in Michigan were caught in their attempted coup against the Michigan governor...
Quick Draw 22 hours ago 21 Nov, 2020 09:46 PM
Just NBC?
imnotarobot22 16 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 03:05 AM
google 'Udo Ulfkotte' ex editor of the Frankfurter Allgemeine - he'll tell you about it.
Richard Burden 2 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 05:07 PM
Reporters who work for the CIA are not spies, because the CIA is a lying agency, not a spying agency. If a terrorist accuses you of being a CIA agent, you can honestly reply that the CIA is the terrorist's friend.

The CIA wants the world to believe that China, Russia and Iran are the leading state sponsors of terrorism, and that those seeking the overthrow of Syria's Bashar al-Assad are freedom fighters, not terrorists...

[Nov 24, 2020] Woke mathematic is a new word in science

From critical race theory to critical math theory is just one step; The Ghost of Mao approves this Red guards initiative!
Nov 24, 2020 | twitter.com

MAA @maanow · Oct 3 "It is time for all members of our profession to acknowledge that mathematics is created by humans and therefore inherently carries human biases. Until this occurs, our community and our students cannot reach full potential." -CMPM #MathValues http:// bit.ly/3l86j2p

[Nov 24, 2020] Neoliberal MSM are trying to hide Biden's cognitive decline.

Nov 24, 2020 | twitter.com

Is he talking about George Soros? George Bush? Or George Washington? Quote Tweet Laura Ingraham @IngrahamAngle · Oct 26 "Four more years of George...George"

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[Nov 24, 2020] The first thing you'd expect from the plotter of a fascist coup is a directive for the federal government to begin the transition process to his successor. Makes total sense!

Nov 24, 2020 | twitter.com

Michael Tracey @mtracey 4h

The first thing you'd expect from the plotter of a fascist coup is a directive for the federal government to begin the transition process to his successor. Makes total sense!
4h Michael Tracey @mtracey 48m
Salute to all the heroes who prevented Trump's coup with your impassioned tweets
Michael Tracey @mtracey 48m
Michael Tracey @mtracey Feeding into maximalist Trump hysteria was always a great business move for most people in the media. Unfortunately it had nothing to do with accurately describing reality. The idea that a fascist coup was ever held up as a real possibility is fucking lunacy

[Nov 24, 2020] An interesting definition of "adverse background"

Nov 24, 2020 | twitter.com

Kamala Harris received preferences in her @Hastingslaw school application due to her "adverse background." Interesting definition of disadvantaged, given that her mom had a Ph.D. and dad was a Professor of Economics at Stanford University. https:// at.law.com/Wxd9w6?cmp=sha re_twitter @Mark_J_Perry

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[Nov 24, 2020] Advice to neoliberal MSM: Go easy, guys on kissing Biden rear end: you have 4 years of resting, deference and praise: don't burn yourselves out so soon. Pace yourselves.

Nov 24, 2020 | twitter.com

Matt Stoller Retweeted

Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald 6h
Biden isn't even sworn in and journalists are barely even pretending to do anything other than swooning and falling all over themselves in obsequious praise. Go easy, guys: you have 4 years of resting, deference and praise: don't burn yourselves out so soon. Pace yourselves.

[Nov 24, 2020] Trump has got neoliberals worshipping the integrity of insecure electronic voting machines

Nov 24, 2020 | twitter.com

Matt Stoller @matthewstoller Nov 20

Trump has got liberals worshipping the integrity of insecure electronic voting machines.

[Nov 23, 2020] Administrations change but Full Spectrum Dominance Doctine and the desire to portect and emand global neoliberal empire controlled from Washinton is intact. It will eventually banrupt the country much like was the case with the British Empire

Highly recommended!
Neocons still dominate both the State Department and NSC. That's bad.
Nov 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Top Biden Advisors Flournoy & Blinken Promise More Secretive 'Permanent War' Policy - Zero Hedge

Authored by Dan Cohen via TheGrayZone.com,

Throughout his campaign, Joe Biden railed against Donald Trump's 'America First' foreign policy, claiming it weakened the United States and left the world in disarray. "Donald Trump's brand of America First has too often led to America alone," Biden proclaimed.

He pledged to reverse this decline and recover the damage Trump did to America's reputation. While Donald Trump called for making America Great Again, Biden seeks to Make the American Empire Great Again .

Joe Biden: "Tonight, the whole world is watching America. And I believe at our best, America is a beacon for the globe. We will lead not only by the example of our power, but by the power of our example."

Among the president-elect's pledges is to end the so-called forever wars – the decades-long imperial projects in Afghanistan and Iraq that began under the Bush administration.

"It's long past time we end the forever wars which have cost us untold blood and treasure," Biden has said.

Yet Biden – a fervent supporter of those wars – will delegate that duty to the most neoconservative elements of the Democratic Party and ideologues of permanent war .

Michele Flournoy and Tony Blinken sit atop Biden's thousands-strong foreign policy brain trust and have played central roles in every U.S. war dating back to the Bill Clinton administration.

During the Trump era, they've cashed in through WestExec Advisors – a corporate consulting firm that has become home for Obama administration officials awaiting a return to government.

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Flournoy is Biden's leading pick for Secretary of Defense and Blinken is expected to be the president's National Security Advisor.

Biden's foxes guard the henhouse

Since the 1990s, Flournoy and Blinken have steadily risen through the ranks of the military-industrial complex, shuffling back and forth between the Pentagon and hawkish think-tanks funded by the U.S. government, weapons companies, and oil giants.

Under Bill Clinton, Flournoy was the principal author of the 1996 Quadrinellial Defense Review, the document that outlined the U.S. military's doctrine of permanent war – what it called "full spectrum dominance."

Flournoy called for "unilateral use of military power" to ensure "uninhibited access to key markets, energy supplies, and strategic resources."

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As Bush administration officials lied to the world about Saddam Hussein's supposed WMD's, Flournoy remarked that "In some cases, preemptive strikes against an adversary's [weapons of mass destruction] capabilities may be the best or only option we have to avert a catastrophic attack against the United States."

Tony Blinken was a top advisor to then-Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chair Joe Biden, who played a key role in shoring up support among the Democrat-controlled Senate for Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq.

During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, Biden declared, "In my judgment, President Bush is right to be concerned about Saddam Hussein's relentless pursuit of weapons of mass destruction."

As Iraq was plunged into chaos and bloodshed, Flournoy was among the authors of a paper titled "Progressive Internationalism" that called for a "smarter and better" style of permanent war . The paper chastised the anti-war left and stated that "Democrats will maintain the world's most capable and technologically advanced military, and we will not flinch from using it to defend our interests anywhere in the world."

With Bush winning a second term, Flournoy advocated for more troop deployments from the sidelines.

In 2005, Flournoy signed onto a letter from the neoconservative think tank Project for a New American Century, asking Congress to "increase substantially the size of the active duty Army and Marine Corps (by) at least 25,000 troops each year over the next several years."

In 2007, she leveraged her Pentagon experience and contacts to found what would become one of the premier Washington think tanks advocating endless war across the globe: the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). CNAS is funded by the U.S. government, arms manufacturers, oil giants, Silicon Valley tech giants, billionaire-funded foundations, and big banks.

Flournoy joined the Obama administration and was appointed as under secretary of defense for policy, the position considered the "brains" of the Pentagon. She was keenly aware that the public was wary of more quagmires. In the 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review, she crafted a new concept of warfare that would expand the permanent war state while giving the appearance of a drawdown.

Flournoy wrote that "unmanned systems hold great promise" – a reference to the CIA's drone assassination program. This was the Obama-era military doctrine of hybrid war. It called for the U.S. to be able to simultaneously wage war on numerous fronts through secret warfare, clandestine weapons transfers to proxies, drone strikes, and cyber-attacks – all buttressed with propaganda campaigns targeting the American public through the internet and corporate news media.

Architects of America's Hybrid wars

Flournoy continued to champion the endless wars that began in the Bush-era and was a key architect of Obama's disastrous troop surge in Afghanistan. As U.S. soldiers returned in body bags and insurgent attacks and suicide bombings increased some 65% from 2009 and 2010, she deceived the Senate Armed Services Committee, claiming that the U.S. was beginning to turn the tide against the Taliban: "We are beginning to regain the initiative and the insurgency is beginning to lose momentum."

Even with her lie that the U.S. and Afghan government were starting to beat the Taliban back, Flournoy assured the senate that the U.S. would have to remain in Afghanistan long into the future: "We are not leaving any time soon even though the nature and the complexion of the commitment may change over time."

Ten years later – as the Afghan death toll passed 150,000 – Flournoy continued to argue against a U.S. withdrawal: "I would certainly not advocate a US or NATO departure short of a political settlement being in place."

That's the person Joe Biden has tasked with ending the forever war in Afghanistan. But in Biden's own words, he'll "bring the vast majority of our troops home from Afghanistan" implying some number of American troops will remain, and the forever war will be just that. Michele Flournoy explained that even if a political settlement were reached, the U.S. would maintain a presence.

Michele Flournoy: "If we are fortunate enough to see a political settlement reached, it doesn't mean that the US role or the international community is over. Afghanistan without outside investment is not a society that is going to survive and thrive. In no case are we going to be able to wash our hands of Afghanistan and walk away nor should we want to. This is something where we're going to have to continue to be engaged, just the form of engagement may change."

In 2011, the Obama-era doctrine of smart and sophisticated warfare was unveiled in the NATO regime-change war on Libya.

Moammar Gaddafi – the former adversary who sought warm relations with the U.S. and had given up his nuclear weapons program – was deposed and sodomized with a bayonet.

Flournoy, Hillary Clinton's State Department, and corporate media were in lockstep as they waged an elaborate propaganda campaign to deceive the U.S. public that Gadaffi's soldiers were on a Viagra-fueled rape and murder spree that demanded a U.S. intervention.

Fox News: "Susan Rice reportedly told a security council meeting that Libyan troops are being given viagra and are engaging in sexual violence."

MSNBC jumped on the propaganda bandwagon, claiming: "New reports emerge that the LIbyan dictator gave soldiers viagra-type pills to rape women who are opposed to the government."

So did CNN.

As the Libyan ambassador to the US alleged "raping, killing, mass graves," ICC Chief Prosecutor Manuel Ocampo claimed: "It's like a machete. Viagra is a tool of massive rapes."

All of this was based on a report from Al Jazeera – the media outlet owned by the Qatari monarchy that was arming extremist militias in Libya to overthrow the government.

Yet an investigation by the United Nations called the rape claims "hysteria." Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch found no credible evidence of even a single rape.

Even after Libya was descended into strife and the deception of Gadaffi's forces committing rape was debunked, Michele Flournoy stood by her support for the war: "I supported the intervention in Libya on humanitarian grounds. I think we were right to do it."

Tony Blinken, then Obama's deputy national security advisor, also pushed for regime change in Libya. He became Obama's point man on Syria, pushed to arm the so-called "moderate rebels" that fought alongside al-Qaeda and ISIS, and designed the red line strategy to trigger a full-on U.S. intervention. Syria, he told the public, wasn't anything like the other wars the U.S. had waging for more than a decade.

Tony Blinken: "We are doing this in a very different way than in the past. We're not sending in hundreds of thousands of American troops. We're not spending trillions of American dollars. We're being smart about this. This is a sustainable way to get at the terrorists and it's also a more effective way."

Blinken added: "This is not open-ended, this is not boots on the ground, this is not Iraq, it's not Afghanistan, it's not even Libya. The more people understand that, the more they'll understand the need for us to take this limited but effective action ."

Despite Blinken's promises that it would be a short affair, the war on Syria is now in its ninth year. An estimated half a million people have been killed as a result and the country is facing famine.

Largely thanks to the policy of using "wheat to apply pressure" – a recommendation of Flournoy and Blinken's CNAS think tank.

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When the Trump administration launched airstrikes on Syria based on mere accusations of a chemical attack, Tony Blinken praised the bombing, claiming Assad had used the weapon of mass destruction sarin. Yet there was no evidence for this claim, something even then-secretary of Defense James Mattis admitted: "So I can not tell you that we had evidence even though we had a lot of media and social media indicators that either chlorine or sarin were used ."

While jihadist mercenaries armed with U..S-supplied weapons took over large swaths of Syria, Tony Blinken played a central role in a coup d'etat in Ukraine that saw a pro-Russia government overthrown in a U.S.-orchestrated color revolution with neo-fascist elements agitating on the ground.

At the time, he was ambivalent about sending lethal weapons to Ukraine, instead opting for economic pressure.

Tony Blinken: "We're working, as I said, to make sure that there's a cost exacted of Russia and indeed that it feels the pressure. That's what we're working on. And when it comes to military assistance, we're looking at it. The facts are these: Even if assistance were to go to Ukraine that would be very unlikely to change Russia's calculus or prevent an invasion."

Since then, fascist militias have been incorporated into Ukraine's armed forces. And Tony Blinken urged Trump to send them deadly weapons – something Obama had declined to do.

But Trump obliged.

The Third Offset

While the U.S. fueled wars in Syria and Ukraine, the Pentagon announced a major shift called the Third Offset strategy – a reference to the cold war era strategies the U.S. used to maintain its military supremacy over the Soviet Union.

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The Third Offset strategy shifted the focus from counterinsurgency and the war on terror to great power competition against China and Russia. It called for a technological revolution in warfighting capabilities, development of futuristic and autonomous weapons, swarms of undersea and airborne drones, hypersonic weapons, cyber warfare, machine-enhanced soldiers, and artificial intelligence making unimaginably complex battlefield decisions at speeds incomprehensible to the human mind. All of this would be predicated on the Pentagon deepening its relationship with Silicon Valley giants that it birthed decades before: Google and Facebook.

The author of the Third Offset, former undersecretary of defense Robert Work, is a partner of Flournoy and Blinken's at WestExec Advisors. And Flournoy has been a leading proponent of this dangerous new escalation .

In June, Flournoy published a lengthy commentary laying out her strategy called " Sharpening the U.S. Military's Edge: Critical Steps for the Next Administration ."

She warned that the United States is losing its military technological advantage and reversing that must be the Pentagon's priority. Without it, Flournoy warned that the U.S. might not be able to defeat China in Asia: "That technological investment is still very important for the United States to be able to offset what will be quantitative advantages and home theater advantages for a country like China if we ever had to deal with a conflict in Asia, in their backyard."

While Flournoy has called for ramping up U.S. military presence and exercises with allied forces in the region, she went so far as to call for the U.S. to increase its destructive capabilities so much that it could launch a blitzkrieg style-attack that would wipe out the entire Chinese navy and all civilian merchant ships in the South China Sea . Not only a blatant war crime but a direct attack on a nuclear power that would spell the third world war.

At the same time, Biden has announced he'll take an even more aggressive and confrontational stance against Russia , a position Flournoy shares: "We need to invest to ensure that we maintain the military edge that we will need in certain critical areas like cyber and electronic warfare and precision strike, to again underwrite deterrence, to make sure Vladimir Putin does not miscalculate and think that he can cross a border into Europe or cross a border and threaten us militarily."

As for ending the forever wars, Tony Blinken says not so fast: "Large scale, open-ended deployment of large standing US forces in conflict zones with no clear strategy should end and will end under his watch . But we also need to distinguish between, for example, these endless wars with the large scale open ended deployment of US forces with, for example, discreet, small-scale sustainable operations, maybe led by special forces, to support local actors In ending the endless wars I think we have to be careful to not paint with too broad a brush stroke."

The end of forever wars?

So Biden will end the forever wars, but not really end them. Secret wars that the public doesn't even know the U.S. is involved in – those are here to stay.

In fact, leaving teams of special forces in place throughout the Middle East is part and parcel of the Pentagon's shift away from counterinsurgency and towards great power competition.

The 2018 National Defense Strategy explains that, "Long-term strategic competitions with China and Russia are the principal priorities" and the U.S. will "consolidate gains in Iraq and Afghanistan while moving to a more resource-sustainable approach."

As for the catastrophic war on Yemen, Biden has said he'll end U.S. support; but in 2019, Michele Flournoy argued against ending arms sales to Saudi Arabia .

Biden pledged he will rejoin the Iran deal as a starting point for new negotiations. However, Trump's withdrawal from the deal discredited the Iranian reformists who seek engagement with the west and empowered the principlists who see the JCPOA as a deal with the devil.

In Latin America, Biden will revive the so-called anti-corruption campaigns that were used as a cover to oust the popular social democrat Brazilian president Lula da Silva.

His Venezuela policy appears little different from Trump's – sanctions and regime change.

In Central America, Biden has presided over a four billion dollar package to support corrupt right-wing governments and neoliberal privatization projects, fueling destabilization and sending vulnerable masses fleeing north to the United States.

Behind their rhetoric, Biden, Flournoy, and Blinken will seek nothing less than global supremacy , escalating a new and even more dangerous arms race that risks the destruction of humanity. That's what Joe Biden calls "decency" and "normalcy."

naughty.boy , 14 hours ago

deep state will bankrupt the USA with forever wars.

Distant_Star , 14 hours ago

Yes. As a bonus neither of these Deep State wretches has even seen a shot fired in anger. They are too "important" to be at risk.

[Nov 23, 2020] The net effect of 2020 elections

Nov 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Kreator , 1 hour ago

I'm well past caring about what msm says or thinks. Been good 15 years now.

Mtnrunnr , 59 minutes ago

Wow. Aren't you a winner

[Nov 23, 2020] If we assume that Venezuela is somehow connected to Dominion,that makes deploying these machines in the US a electoral crime.

Nov 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Featherless , Nov 22 2020 18:18 utc | 26

An idea just occurred to me that might explain the "Dominion machines/Venezuela" connection :

If Venezuela is widely (bipartisanly) considered "electoral fraudsters", that taints these machines.

That makes IMPLEMENTING these machines a few years later in the US a WILLFUL electoral crime.


Featherless , Nov 22 2020 19:17 utc | 35

bevin, you're missing my point.

Here's an analogy : imagine the blues and reds both agree that I am a notorious thief, even if it's only a false narrative. Then they hire me as a security guard. That would be willfully, knowingly hiring a criminal, which would be criminal, not because of the facts, but because of the logic.

Stonebird , Nov 22 2020 19:37 utc | 38

A couple of thoughts about the Venzuela gambit. Evidently Tucker Carson wanted Sydney to tell him all about the "Dominion" vote flipping in a public interview. Which would have been tantamount to giving away all the potential Republican case, and given the Democrats prior knowledge of what to expect. A no-go. Mentioning "Venezuela-Cuba" could have the effect of heading off a direct civil war if the US Dems and Repubs have a" common enemy" to blame. (Too late for Russia, China too touchy, not many other major targets). Note that Venezuela has a paper trail created at the same time as the electronic vote...

[Nov 23, 2020] Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden

Nov 23, 2020 | www.rt.com

Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden win 23 Nov, 2020 00:58 / Updated 46 minutes ago Get short URL Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden win FILE PHOTO © REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst 15 Follow RT on RT Donald Trump's top lawyers disavowed Sidney Powell just three days after she joined them at a presser to help outline the president's election-fraud allegations, and hours after she lobbed fraud allegations at Georgia's governor.

"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," senior Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said on Sunday in a joint statement. "She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

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Giuliani and Ellis gave no explanation for the statement. Trump last week named Powell, a former federal prosecutor, among five well-known lawyers who would lead his legal team in challenging the results of this month's presidential election.

Powell was among three featured speakers when the Trump legal team held a press conference on Thursday to give an overview of its election-fraud cases in key states that the president apparently lost to Democrat rival Joe Biden.

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Powell focused largely on accusations that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic election software were fraudulently manipulated to award thousands of fake votes to Biden. Her allegations went deeper, involving allies of the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez owning Dominion and having ties to Democrat billionaire donor George Soros.

But by Thursday night, Powell's story was being challenged by a conservative media superstar, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who said she had brushed off multiple requests to provide evidence of the Dominion-Smartmatic scheme for his show. She also was invited to be interviewed on his show, but "when we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her," Carlson said.

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Powell responded by saying she told Carlson not to contact her again because he was "very insulting, demanding and rude." She also provided him with an affidavit and referred him to a witness who could help him understand her statistical evidence. Carlson followed up the next night, saying he had heard from Trump sources, including other members of the president's legal team, who said that they hadn't seen Powell's evidence firsthand.

If Powell's allegations in the press conference seemed a little wild, her interview on Saturday night with conservative news outlet Newsmax took the case to another level. She accused Georgia's Republican governor, Brian Kemp, and the state's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, of receiving financial benefits to help Biden win the state's 16 electoral votes.

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"Georgia's probably going to be the first state I'm gonna blow up," Powell said of her planned fraud cases. "And Mr. Kemp and the secretary of state need to go with it because they're in on the Dominion scam." She added that her Georgia lawsuit, which she hopes to file this week, "will be biblical."

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pogohere 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:17 PM

Some teams are harder to play on than others. Look at the Flynn case. The US Dep. of Justice surrendered to Powell et. al. and requested that its own case against Flynn be dismissed following the disclosure by Powell's efforts that the DOJ was withholding evidence-- a "Brady rule violation"-- of Flynn's innocence from the defense and the court. Flynn's prestigious Wa DC law firm earlier had Flynn plead guilty. The judge is holding up the dismissal of that case, against all precedent. Powell most likely isn't finished. Neither is The Donald.
GoldMorgsCom 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:31 PM
Giuliani and Ellis intimidated and gearing down? Powell least nervous at the presentation. Usually fraud by (voting)computers escapes the possibility of external proof. But a peculiarity in the Michigan-elections enabled it. See on the site vashiva (Shiva) MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems. Its systematic fraud, save screenshots. Steven J. Miller Ph.D. published his testimony, that about 50'000 mail-in ballots of republicans have disapeared in Pensylvenia and 50'000 absentee ballots have been abused by others (in favor of Biden = +50000). It makes up about 150000 to the disadvantage of Trump in PA. Bidens surplus was about 75000. About Michigan and Pensylvenia it has been published that the number of fraud votes was sufficient for a fraud change of the outcome in favor of "the democrats". The signals are that the same happened in the other critical states . See also -- Trump lawyers allege 'MASSIVE' election fraud, point to sworn statements & efforts to threaten and silence them (VIDEO)-- 19 Nov, 2020 20:30 ( rt-search, on top at the right ) In the first ten minutes it is explained how the "democrat" bosses facilitated huge fraud with absentee ballots. In Pensylvenia 682'000 have been accepted without proper checks and with destroying the evidence of fraud. It is a federal offence not to store all election records (scans), even not collecting them, such as besiding mail-in envelopes and not checking them before opening them.
JingsGeordie 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:18 PM
Disavows? That's twisting the information (edit - they've now changed it to 'distances') From Gen. Flynn's twitter feed - ".@SidneyPowell1 has been suspended from Twitter for 12 hours. She understands the WH press release & agrees with it. She is staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed #WeThePeople of our votes for President Trump & other Republican candidates."
Thesheperd666 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:02 PM
Trump fired Sidney Powell ? That is a huge mistake and might coast him the presidency. Trumps team looks weak now ! Sidney look more confident and much more calmer than Rudy Giuliani. I really don't trust Rudy as much as Sidney, wondering if they are afraid of spoiling the Republic party before the 12th amendment goes to the house for votes ? Either side your on this makes Trumps team look bad, and are starting to make up stories. I think Trump did win by a landslide and this years vote was stolen from the US citizens. Demarcates can breath a little more easier now that Sidney is gone, she was the strongest one on the team. Trump needs more Sidney Powell's not less, I don't trust Rudy nor do I think he has what it takes to win. Trump needs better Lawyers, Rudy is just a celebrity lawyer that will keep his image no matter what ! Trump needs tigers not mice !
anastasia265 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:27 PM
It's not true. She was never a part of that team and had her own funding site. Their strategy was to keep the two matters separate
J_P_Franklin 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:49 PM
Majority of Republicans are and have conspired against Trump since 2016. America First Trumpism is the opposite of Republican open borders/free trade treason.
GoldMorgsCom 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:03 PM
Peculiar is that the German chamber of commerce does not reveal any registration of the Dominions, neither of Smartmatic neither of Scytl neither of Amazone. These have not registrated or their registrations are being hidden on request. So who's prosecution by the German state prosecutors is to be requested?
Gerald Newton 2 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 10:56 PM
Sidney Powell has not released her evidence yet but it is coming. She has an impressive record and probably will crush much of the federal justice system. That is what she does. Read her book, Licensed to Lie. It is about the way federal prosecutors lie to prosecute like they did to Senator Stevens of Alaska.
Swanster6450 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:56 PM
I guess Sidney Powell is finding what happens to people from outside the political loop when they seek to stick their nose in and point out a few inconsistencies. Chucked under a bus is the usual outcome. Julian Assange is also finding out the same thing and, incidentally, so too is Donald Trump. All shafted and all chucked under a bus for pointing out a few inconsistencies.
RTreaderCaribb 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:56 PM
I have one question and one question only: why would Sydney Powell who seems to be very bright and a good lawyer say something of which she would know will be exposed only in less than 14 days to be totally untrue? This makes no sense at all. And so I think we all should pray that this woman does not end up like Jeffrey Epstein. We should take our time. 14 days are nothing in comparison to the endless work she has to put in . And if she cant show any fact for her allegations then we can maybe say something went wrong with her. But right now let this woman work. All this prejudgment in the public court is irritating to me. And if Sidney Powell did the same then yes, she would be irritating to me too. And for Trump: If he can prove voter fraud then he should go to the supreme court. If he cant then at some point he must concede. I guess the latest is December 14th and until then he should just figure out what it is. That is his legal right. And for the American people: if you were so stupid to vote for Biden then please bear the consequences thereof because you will go down the tubes. The man is not well in his head.
allan Kaplan 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:43 PM
Sidney Powell's stamina, her defiance and her antipathy is so real that those who have faced injustice by the hands of the powerful know what it takes to get such bullies sweating. The house of cards of the Democrat commies will come tumbling down once Powell gets to the podium of naming names, dates, places, and their coconspirators et al. I love her tenacity, determination, perseverance and her unflinching boldness that most of the dems are sweating about! Thank you Ms. Powell for a great American tradition and go full speed... the dissenting maverick you are!
GoldMorgsCom 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:27 PM
They are so scared that the president Trump will conduct the great cleansing, to start with removing the authority on the dollar from the Federal Reserve to the usa federal state of the people. They are already blocking the president Trump during four years to keep him from that. They know they can now only keep the president Trump from the great cleansing by removing him from office. They will do more than the high treason of the fraud against the federal elections, to remove the president Trump from office. Eventually they will detonate a smuggled-in nuclear bomb and allegate Russia or fire a missile with a nuclear bomb from an unindentified submarine and allegate Russia. You believe the spread of Covid-19 this year was a coincidense? If Russia is being attacked any more (with allegations) it is a good reason for conducting the great cleansing in Russia. Those probably sly covered Khodorovski-types who are pressing forward (exports of) GMM-injections "against Covid-19" are probably backstabbing Russia; catastrophic future compensation claims on Russia and confiscation of all export-incomes. This is a good reason for conducting the great cleansing out of Russia of all Khodorovski-types. We hope that the reorganized government of Russia will cleanse out all Khodorovski-types, no matter the president Trump will continue office and conduct the great cleansing in the usa or not.
Marlin1091 12 minutes ago 23 Nov, 2020 01:06 AM
Google did and is helping biden. That is why I don't use google any more, I use Yandex and for fackrok I use vk

[Nov 23, 2020] Marsha Blackburn- Big Tech Censorship 'Choosing Winners And Losers' - Newsmax.com

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Latest: Ken Timmerman Reveals Vote Fraud, More Here Home | Politics Tags: blackburn | censorship | section230 Marsha Blackburn: Big Tech Censorship 'Choosing Winners And Losers' Marsha Blackburn: Big Tech Censorship 'Choosing Winners And Losers' Senator Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., walks to the Senate subway in the U.S. Capitol on Feb. 3, 2020 in Washington, United States.(Sarah Silbiger/Getty Images)

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Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., says Big Tech is "choosing winners and losers" for their targets of "censoring" -- including President Donald Trump.

In an interview Wednesday with Sinclair Broadcasting's "America This Week," Blackburn said Congress is working toward reigning in social media giants who are using Section 230 of the 1996 Telecommunications Act to justify their censorship of conservative voices.

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"What they have done is to start choosing winners and losers and being very subjective in how they go about censoring," Blackburn said of social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter.

According to Blackburn, Section 230 was meant to help the then-new platforms, but has gotten out of hand.

Section 230 "puts this protection for social media companies that were just coming in online," she said, aiming "to give these platforms protection to stand up" and to provide a "safe harbor" from lawsuits and "let them get their sea legs," she said.

"Now these companies have grown so big they're beginning to act like publishers you cannot censor without telling people why," she declared.

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[Nov 23, 2020] https://thegrayzone.com/2020/11/20/fbi-justice-takedown-iranian-american-herald-tribune-website/

Nov 23, 2020 | thegrayzone.com

Posted by: Mao | Nov 22 2020 18:23 utc | 27

The American Herald Tribune (AHT) is back. We escaped the treacherous wrath of notorious thought police agencies including the US Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA as well as a few of their media front operations including CNN, the Washington Post, and Bloomberg News. With a slip and a slide and a pirouette or two we danced out of the clutches of the US Dark State and re-emerged at .ca, ahtribune.ca.

https://popularresistance.org/the-american-herald-tribune-arises-from-the-ashes/

Posted by: Mao | Nov 22 2020 18:27 utc | 29

Mao @ 29

Never heard the the American Herald Tribune until they got taken down. Looking back at some of their articles in the way back machine I see nothing seriously threatening to the state. Never have heard of or seen any of their work appearing in anything I am reading.

That being said, them being taken down was enough to add them to my reading list. It might be they are cementing a crackdown on anything considered antisemitic against the European Jews that took over Palestine before Trump leaves office.

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Posted by: circumspect | Nov 22 2020 19:38 utc | 39

Mao | Nov 22 2020 18:27 utc | 29:

Using a Canadian domain name won't save it from the wrath of the US.

Posted by: Ian2 | Nov 22 2020 20:09 utc | 44

[Nov 23, 2020] About the elusiveness of sanity in an insane world

Nov 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

Erich Fromm, the renowned German-Jewish social psychologist who was forced to flee his homeland in the early 1930s as the Nazis came to power, offered a disturbing insight later in life on the relationship between society and the individual.

In the mid-1950s, his book The Sane Society suggested that insanity referred not simply to the failure by specific individuals to adapt to the society they lived in. Rather, society itself could become so pathological, so detached from a normative way of life, that it induced a deep-seated alienation and a form of collective insanity among its members. In modern western societies, where automation and mass consumption betray basic human needs, insanity might not be an aberration but the norm.

[Nov 23, 2020] Love hate relationship between Trump and Silicon Valley moguls

Nov 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

GSD , 40 minutes ago

Trump hates the MSM and big tech so much, he can't go a day without being in front of a camera or tweeting

Mtnrunnr , 38 minutes ago

Lol. This x1000

[Nov 23, 2020] The Georgian foxes recounted the hens and determined that none were missing

Nov 23, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Eric Newhill , 22 November 2020 at 03:26 PM

TTG,
yes, the Georgian foxes recounted the hens and determined that none were missing, just like they said the first time. Hardly what one would call a true audit.

Trump is asking for a truly audited recount - https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-georgia-elections-7bba105439653d530ee8023d54d7ec89

[Nov 23, 2020] Kraken is just a small sardine

Nov 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Nov 22 2020 22:43 utc | 55

Looks like Pepe Escobar's Kraken is just a small sardine:

Trump Campaign Statement on Legal Team: Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She's not a member of the Trump Legal Team.

[Nov 22, 2020] Sidney Powell has a tighrope to walk. Her opponent is not the opposing campaign of Dem hacks. Her opponent is CIA. CIA stuffed all those ballots.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Wally , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 12:04 am GMT • 18.6 hours ago

@Brett Redmayne-Titley dney-powell-staggering-evidence-of-vote-fraud-dominion-machines-engineered-by-china-venezuela-cuba/
Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell Responds to Tucker Carlson: 'He Was Insulting, Demanding and Rude' : https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11/20/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-responds-to-tucker-carlson-he-was-insulting-demanding-and-rude/#
includes:

and more Powell interviews:

https://youtu.be/F5vndAmMqAM

anonymous [379] Disclaimer , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 12:20 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

BRT 207, agreed that the interview was less than cathartic, but Sidney has a tighrope to walk. Her opponent is not the opposing campaign of Dem hacks. Her opponent is CIA. CIA stuffed all those ballots. Unfortunately for Sidney, in US law and regulation, CIA crime is secret. The perps are secret under the IIPA. The facts are secret under the operational files exemption. The law is secret under COG procedures. Flynn explained the birds and bees to her. Remember DIA is JFK's creation.

Now Sidney has to find a way to puke up evidence of CIA crime in court.

CIA ratfucked Chavez with their electoral malware, albeit ineffectually.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06CARACAS2063_a.html (per that cheeky monkey PCR)

CIA put their Venezuelan proprietary through a couple of sheepdippings and turned it on Trump. Just like they used it on Kerry. Just like they do whenever you vote for the wrong guy. Honnête homme Hopsicker, offered a lifetime of hookers and blow to shut up, has the most synoptic take:

https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/11/15/short-history-election-fraud/

This is transnational organized crime by CIA. Sidney has to call CIA agents under oath. She has to protect them from DO's murderers. She has to explode everything you think about your bullshit fake democracy. I don't know if she can do it but I hope she can.

[Nov 22, 2020] Elections and Biden administration legitimacy

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Anonymous [290] Disclaimer , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 4:11 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago

@anastasia ny investigation would occur only after a Trump victory, in which case the investigation would not be bi-partisan.
In terms of your original quote concerning maintenance of legitimacy:
* The urban areas will never accept election of Trump, as Trump and his supporters have no intention of trying to remedy urban fiscal shortfalls by Federal borrowings.
* It would appear that governmental legitimacy has already been lost on both the urban and hinterland coalitions in the US.
* The urban coalition cannot support itself even in the absence of conflict with the hinterland coalition, and is thus incapable of ruling the USA.
* Legitimacy of some sort of government might be restored if Trump's election concerns are acted upon, and if the US urban areas declined into political irrelevance, but not otherwise.

[Nov 22, 2020] Times change and comedians change with them. No always for good

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Wally , says: Next New Comment November 21, 2020 at 11:58 pm GMT • 18.7 hours ago

@AReply

Speaking of John Oliver, here you go:

HBO's John Oliver Called It 'Completely Insane' to Use Electronic Voting Machines in Nov. 2019
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/11/21/hbos-john-oliver-called-it-completely-insane-to-use-electronic-voting-machines/

[Nov 22, 2020] Hey, I have an idea! Ask the Department of Homeland Security, the NSA, and the FBI what happened

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

No Friend Of The Devil , says: Next New Comment November 21, 2020 at 8:53 pm GMT • 21.8 hours ago

Hey, I have an idea! Ask the Department of Homeland Security, the NSA, and the FBI what happened! They would know! They keep all of these records of electronic communications and have insisted on back door entries into all of our technology, so they couldn't have possibly left election software up to Venezuelans! They couldn't be that stupid!

LOL!

[Nov 22, 2020] Gina and elections

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

anon [141] Disclaimer , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 2:25 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago

AReply 220, were you OK with it when CIA intervened to keep Kerry out and Bush in?

First it's GOP dupes hiding behind Mommy CIA's skirts. Then it's Dem dupes hiding behind Mommy CIA's skirts. Either way Mommy CIA takes you home and hangs you upside down and gives you icewater enemas like you're Sybil.

[Nov 22, 2020] Hayes was called "His Fraudulency", a name that fits Joe Biden even better.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Reg Cæsar , says: Next New Comment November 19, 2020 at 1:02 am GMT • 3.7 days ago

@Justvisiting "faithless" elector. Colorado, which had entered the Union that summer, did not even hold an election. The legislature just gave their three electors to Hayes. (As they should have.) Hayes needed every one of them to prevail.

Hayes was called "His Fraudulency", a name that fits Joe Biden even better. It's hard to see how Tilden's side was any cleaner, though.

I think the disputed states should "compromise" and give electors to Jo Jorgensen. That would deprive each side of a majority, sending the decision to the House. (And Senate, for Pence and Harris.)

Another solution is to give the Vice Presidential electors to Pence. If no presidential decision is made by Inauguration Day, he gets the nod one way or another.

[Nov 22, 2020] The Unfinished Work of the Church Committee, by Marisol Nostromo

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Thanks for reading. If you find this material interesting, perhaps you might contact Twitter and ask them why ..."
"... my account was suspended ..."
"... on June 30 of this year. I would very much like to find out the reason. ..."
Nov 08, 2020 | marisol-nostromo.medium.com

According to Merriam-Webster , a "secret police" is "a police organization that is run by a governm e nt and that operates in a secret way to control the actions of people who oppose the government." Of course, in this day and age, it's not easy to define "the government". We live in an oligarchical society. There are elected officials, including the President, who stay in office for a fixed amount of time and have a certain amount of power to change the way that things are done. But on the other hand, there are permanent institutions, both within the government itself and within society at large, that also wield significant power and are responsible for safeguarding the interests of the oligarchy, should they be threatened by the policies of the temporary, elected government.

There are various ways to describe this superstructure of oligarchic rule. One term which has become popular of late is "Deep State." Because the term has been used by Donald Trump, it has been ridiculed in the press as a "conspiracy theory," an expression which is often used to identify an "unauthorized narrative". A more technical term, favored by the British and the neocons , is "Continuity of Government" (COG.) There has been plenty of analysis of this concept, some well-founded, some highly speculative.

But a few things are self-evident here. One is that there is a huge number of career civil servants working in all branches of government who don't leave their jobs at the end of a 4- or 8-year presidential term. They remain, offering their professional experience, as well as their established political allegiances and ideological habits, to the incoming administration. Secondly, these career professionals are connected in multiple ways to non-governmental institutions with which they have formed closed working relationships, such as the media and the financial community, or the arms industry (the famed " Military Industrial Complex .")

Agencies such as the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) devote much of their efforts to covert activity, and these agencies have at times clashed with elected officials. There have been allegations that these agencies are more loyal to permanent oligarchic power centers than to any temporary occupant of the White House. There are even compelling reasons to believe that these secretive agencies have been deployed against U.S. elected officials and even presidents .

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Senator Frank Church

In the early 1970s there were troubling revelations about covert operations, including illegal spying on American citizens and assassinations of dissident leaders such as Fred Hampton. Growing public concern about these abuses led to the formation of the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, better known as the Church Committee after its chairman, Democratic Senator Frank Church of Idaho. Creation of the Committee was approved on January 27, 1975 by the U.S. Senate. It published an extensive final report in April of 1976.

The Committee investigated the activities of the CIA and FBI, as well as the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). It investigated assassinations of foreign leaders, unauthorized surveillance of U.S. citizens, and other covert operations. Efforts were made by political leaders, including President Gerald Ford, to keep these findings secret. These efforts were only partially successful.

Some of the projects which were exposed by the Church Committee included:

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Edward Snowden

Typically, the agencies under investigation would issue a mea culpa and assure the public that these naughty activities had all been discontinued. However, new revelations over the past decades have demonstrated that nothing could be further from the truth. Of particular interest is the case of Edward Snowden , the NSA whistleblower who revealed the truly staggering extent of the unlawful surveillance being carried out on American citizens.

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Some things which were once done with utmost discretion, such as the infiltration of the news media by the CIA under Operation Mockingbird, are now done completely out in the open without the public batting an eye. For example, former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who both lied under oath to the US Congress about illegal activity by the CIA and NSA, now hold high-profile positions at MSNBC and CNN respectively.

It was Russiagate that brought into sharp relief the depth and breadth of CIA/NSA/FBI involvement in the manipulation of domestic politics. It originated in London, the great mecca of the neocons, with the preparation of the "Steele Dossier" by a "former" operative of MI6. For four years in the U.S., Russiagate was propagated through regular leaks of anonymous "assessments" from members of the "intel community" to their assets in the media, some of whom were themselves ostensibly retirees from the "intel community."

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These leakers were dutifully characterized in the media as courageous, patriotic whistleblowers, unlike those individuals such as Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning or Julian Assange who revealed material that was embarrassing to the neocons. The condemnation of those latter persons by intel community appendage Congressman Adam Schiff, who had his own personal whistleblower on tap for his impeachment effort, is also illuminating.

One organization which has earned the gratitude of the American public for shedding light on the malignant activities of the "intel community" is group of genuine, high-profile whistleblowers that calls itself Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS). They have played an important role in debunking the story that Russia "hacked" the DNC servers and furnished information on DNC misconduct to Wikileaks. A particularly insightful voice is that of Ray McGovern , who was a CIA analyst from 1963 to 1990, and in the 1980s chaired National Intelligence Estimates and prepared the President's Daily Brief.

But what has come out of the shadows and into full view during the past four years is a new sort of complex, where the covert agencies, the media, and the corporations which now monopolize social media, join forces to create an unprecedented, "total immersion" propaganda environment. Initially, the internet and social media appeared to be a "wild west" sort of venue where anyone could say anything. Much of the population soon began to prefer this as a source for news over the corporate media, and the neocons cried foul. Facebook hastened to accomodate them , bringing in the vociferously neocon Atlantic Council and the mother of all Regime Change organizations, the National Endowment for Democracy, as consultants in 2018 to help decide which voices should be silenced.

Not to be outdone, Twitter hired a part-time officer in the British Army's psychological warfare unit as senior executive with editorial responsibility for the Middle East in 2019. The following year Facebook upped the ante by hiring the former Director-General of Israel's Justice Ministry , a specialist in censorship, as a member of its new "oversight board."

The FBI joined the fun, seizing over 100 internet domains in late 2020 and claiming that they were operated by Iran. This included the site for the American Herald Tribune , an alternative press organ with a substantial following. The FBI Special Agent in charge issued a statement, saying that "Thanks to our ongoing collaboration with Google, Facebook, and Twitter, the FBI was able to disrupt this Iranian propaganda campaign and we will continue to pursue any attempts by foreign actors to spread disinformation in our country."

However, it doesn't stop with propaganda and censorship. During the presidential election of 2020, there was an escalated intervention by the secret police agencies into the electoral process. A few courageous individuals spoke out against this.

When election day arrived, numerous vote-counting anomalies were reported all around the country , partially obscured by deliberate disinformation, "fact-checking", and general hysteria. One particularly noteworthy allegation was made by Sidney Powell, an attorney who has represented General Michael Flynn. She alleged that computer programs called HAMMER and SCORECARD, which had been developed for the intelligence agencies for use in rigging elections in other countries, had been used to benefit Biden in the election. Former NSA senior analyst and member of VIPS, Kirk Wiebe, explained the use of these cyber-weapons, and reported that the man who developed them, Dennis Montgomery, was prepared to testify to this effect:

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Why would the covert agencies attack Trump, who supposedly is a hardline right-winger? Well, apparently he is not regarded as such in establishment circles. One of the preeminent establishment megaphones, The Atlantic , published a very revealing article in which they compared Trump to Henry Wallace, who served as Vice President under FDR and went on to found the Progressive Party. Wallace opposed the Cold War, and Trump's reluctance to embrace the Cold War 2.0 that began with the neocon-sponsored 2014 coup in Ukraine appears to be what put him on the enemies list.

The many allegations of fraud in the 2020 election may be the subject of controversy, litigation, and even civil unrest for possibly years to come. As Republicans so often do, Sidney Powell has damaged her credibility by alleging that the Venezuelan government and assorted communists played a role in orchestrating vote fraud, a red herring on a par with Democratic Party claims of Russian interference in the 2016 election. If the CIA and/or NSA did in fact use cyber-warfare techniques to manipulate the outcome, they most certainly did not do so at the behest of Hugo Chavez. And if they did tamper with the vote totals, they will have ample opportunity to wipe the evidence.

But at this point, can anyone argue that it is not urgent for the Congress to resume an investigation of misconduct by our secret police agencies, and that this time they not be satisfied with polite assurances that the bad behavior will cease? Trump has many warts, but there is a proper way to remove him from office, if that is what the electorate wants. A color revolution , or any other form of coup run by secret police agencies, is odious.

Thanks for reading. If you find this material interesting, perhaps you might contact Twitter and ask them why my account was suspended on June 30 of this year. I would very much like to find out the reason.

[Nov 22, 2020] How NYT Select Their Foreign Correspondents

Nov 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Bart Hansen , Nov 20 2020 23:47 utc | 30

The winning candidate will be issued little stickies for her computer screen including "Russian Aggression", "Annexed Crimea" and "Poisoned the Skripals"

[Nov 22, 2020] America's "Color Revolution". For those readers who may be unfamiliar - by Marisol Nostromo - Medium

Notable quotes:
"... not on those issues ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... The Atlantic. ..."
"... New York Post ..."
"... Nota Bene: the author of this article was subsequently ..."
"... suspended from Twitter ..."
"... without explanation. Contact @TwitterSupport and ask them why. ..."
Nov 22, 2020 | marisol-nostromo.medium.com

For those readers who may be unfamiliar with the term "Color Revolution", it refers to what has now become the standard technique for promoting "regime change" in targeted nations.

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The term may have its origins in the works of Gene Sharp , who wrote some guidebooks on how to organize popular revolts using Madison Avenue-style marketing techniques. He recommended to the sponsors that rather than confusing or boring the participants with too much political theory, they should motivate their budding revolutionaries with pop culture, using catchy, content-free slogans, logos, and team colors.

Color R e volutions are expensive ( $5 billion in the case of Ukraine ) and are typically orchestrated by a public-private partnership comprised of government agencies such as the State Department and MI6 and/or CIA, combined with private funding and Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs).

The most famous organization of this sort is the National Endowment For Democracy, a curious entity that is funded by the US Government through USAID (as well as by donations from major neocon private foundations), and has two sub-organizations that disseminate the funds to various Regime Change projects: the International Republican Institute, affiliated with the Republican Party, and the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, affiliated with the Democrats. Both organizations carry out the same activity, which underscores the fact that on matters of subverting and bullying the rest of the world, there is a lot more bipartisanship in the US than people are inclined to think.

Another name associated with funding and orchestration is George Soros , whose various tax-exempt organizations such as the Open Society Foundations invariably pump money into the latest Color Revolutions, for reasons that are often more commercial than strictly political.

After the September 11 attacks in 2001, the neocons fanned the flames of indignation and xenophobia, and were able to exploit them in order to assume a dominant role in most American institutions, particularly the political parties and the media. Regime Change fever swept the foreign policy establishment, and anyone who looked cross-eyed at a neocon became a target.

Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama embraced the neocon ethos and gave them virtual carte blanche to carry out Color Revolutions around the world. The advent of social media, which fosters communication in the form of short, catchy slogans and images that can be made to "go viral," was particularly conducive to Gene Sharp's formula of organizing the masses around advertising copy and team colors. The Color Revolution techniques were used on a large scale in the former Soviet Union, such as in the 2003 Rose Revolution in Georgia or the 2005 Orange Revolution in Ukraine.

If the targeted populations can't be organized effectively to overthrow their leaders, there is always the fall back option of arming mercenary groups to seize power by violence, or if that fails, out and out military aggression by the US or NATO. The most reliable method seems to be a combination of non-violent and violent action, such as in the case of Ukraine's second Color Revolution in 2014 (a coup which was comically dubbed the "Revolution of Dignity" by its neocon sponsors, who know that a successful marketing campaign must never be understated.) A similar case was the 2019 protests in Hong Kong, where gang violence was deployed in hopes of provoking a crackdown by the state which could then be exploited for propaganda purposes.

But it was inevitable that these techniques would eventually be used on the US itself. Donald Trump campaigned on a platform of reducing US reliance on Regime Change wars and NATO "out-of-area deployments" as a centerpiece of foreign policy. This was anathema to the neocons. Once in office, Trump vacillated, bringing prominent neocons into his cabinet and allowing them to launch multiple Regime Change operations. However, Trump was not a doctrinaire neocon, and he angered them by advocating better relations with North Korea, Russia and China. And for the neocons, anything short of total allegiance to their ideology is tantamount to betrayal.

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The standard methodology was put into play the moment Trump was inaugurated. The team color was pink, in the form of the pink "pussy hats" (these ostensibly called attention to Trump's sexual vulgarity and libertine lifestyle, which lacked the charm of Bill Clinton's.) The buzzword was #Resistance, which was intended to conjure up images of the struggle by nations which had been conquered by Nazi aggression during World War II. Oddly enough, however, the aggressive moves by Trump against other nations were not #Resisted. In fact, those were the only instances where he received hearty praise from the corporate media.

But it's not possible to mobilize a population with hats and hashtags alone. There had to be some minimal political content, and herein lay the dilemma for the organizers of America's Color Revolution. There was widespread popular discontent with what has become known as the "forever war" policy, as well as the neoliberal economics which have produced an unprecedented income disparity between the 1% and the 99%, and this popular discontent was key in electing Trump. The neocons wanted discontent, but not on those issues , since they had no intention of changing those policies.

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Instead, they opted for a revival of the Cold War. Americans seem to have a particular susceptibility to jingoism, and the demonization of the former communist powers, which had already begun in 2014 with the neocon-sponsored coup in Ukraine, was cranked up to full volume in the corporate media, using all the imagery and sloganeering that had proved so effective during the 1950s.

This involved some spectacular feats of cognitive dissonance. Despite Trump's outbursts of bellicosity toward Russia and other neocon targets, Trump was portrayed as being "soft," an appeaser, or an outright enemy agent. The Democratic Party, which is considered to be the more liberal of the two parties and had in decades past expressed some nominal opposition to military adventures in Vietnam and elsewhere, swung way to the right of the Republicans in the jingoism derby.

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The secret police agencies and their pet journalists concocted what will be admired by historians as one of the most preposterous conspiracy theories in recorded history, the tale of Russia manipulating the 2016 election with a computer hack which somehow cannot be detected by the NSA , and puppy pages on Facebook .

There was also a big focus on Trump's personality, which is admittedly none too winsome. This is consistent with the neocon "Hitler of the Month Club" formula, where each new nemesis, from Manuel Noriega to Saddam Hussein to Muammar Gaddafi to Vladimir Putin, is depicted as the most brutish, authoritarian dictator ever to walk the face of the planet.

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They succeeded in impeaching Trump in December 2019, almost three years into his first term in office. They did not actually charge Trump with an impeachable crime, but rather offered the rationale that he had allegedly used the power of his office in ways that could benefit his re-election campaign (something that no other American president would ever dream of doing.) This was a far cry from the much sexier, hoped-for rationale of "collusion" with the Bolshevik Foe, which had been shot down by the Mueller Report. However, impeachment maven Adam Schiff managed to insinuate that this Collusion was the real basis for impeachment, every time he saw a TV camera. We faced the surreal spectacle of liberals begging John Bolton to testify, as the role of the neocons in orchestrating the #Resistance became ever more explicit.

The impeachment passed the House on purely partisan lines, and Senate voted not to convict on purely partisan lines as well. There has been much speculation that popular pushback to the whole spectacle may actually benefit Trump in this year's election. We shall see.

Meanwhile, with the massively FUBAR Iowa caucuses of February 2020, questions were once again raised once again about the Democratic nominating process. Bernie Sanders was emerging as a new threat to neocon dominance, this time from within the Democratic Party.

During the days leading up to Super Tuesday, there was a remarkable development. Every prominent neocon, from Bill Kristol to Max Boot to David Frum to Susan Rice, acted with synchronized, military precision to endorse Joe Biden. Several neocon-friendly Democratic presidential candidates abruptly withdrew from the race to endorse him as well. There was an immediate Pavlovian response from cable news pundits and other putative journalists. Russiagate was dusted off and started up again, this time for use against Sanders. On April 8, Sanders capitulated and withdrew from the race.

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No one in their right mind believed that the confused and incoherent Biden could defeat the also incoherent, but clever and confident Trump. But at this point, it was more important to the neocons that they keep control over at least one of the two parties, and a decision was made that it were better to throw the election to Trump rather than to allow Sanders' brand of left-populism to become ascendant in the Democratic Party.

But then the neocons saw a fresh opportunity, following the May 25 murder of African-American George Floyd by police in Minneapolis. Protest demonstrations by the Black community intersected the anxieties of a population frightened and frustrated by the one-two punch of economic collapse combined with public health isolation to contain the COVID-19 pandemic. Violent groups from the Antifa milieiu, predominately white and possibly assets of the FBI's COINTELPRO progam, initiated vandalism and looting. Neocons were salivating at the prospect of Maidan-style chaos.

The beleaguered Trump had already been showing signs of psychological fatigue, and there had been significant lapses in his already questionable judgement. In addition to mishandling the public health measures and the economic crisis, he had capitulated once more to the neocons and went on an anti-China tirade. Then, when the social unrest began in the wake of the George Floyd killing, all of Trump's political flaws came into play.

The neocons triumphantly hit the airwaves and the digital arena. Their great oracle, The Atlantic , published an article that serendipitously confirms the central theme of the article you are presently reading. Neocon high priestess Susan Rice suggested that the Russians were to blame for the rioting. Trump's every misstep was amplified by neocon pundits. Suddenly the idea of electing Biden was no longer so implausible, as long as he could be kept away from live microphones.

It's important to bear in mind that the neocons are not in the least concerned with Trump's mishandling of COVID-19 pandemic or civil unrest. They were delighted when he ranted against China. But when he advocated reducing U.S. troop deployments in Germany and Afghanistan, they were livid. On June 26, the New York Times published yet another story based on anonymous leaks from the "intelligence community". This one claimed that the Taliban needed some incentives after being occupied by a foreign power after 20 years and was now accepting "bounties" from Russia in exchange for fighting the US military. In mid-September, General Frank McKenzie, Commander of the U.S. Central Command, told NBC News that no evidence had been found to support this claim. Neocons continued to speak of it as established fact.

Although the corporate press continued to depict Trump as a fanatical right-winger in coverage intended for the rubes, within the citadels of neoconservatism he was regarded as something entirely different. On September 30, 2020, the Atlantic published another revelatory article entitled " What a Second Trump Term Would Mean for the World ." Author Thomas Wright drops a few bombshells like this one, likening Trump to the great Progressive leader Henry Wallace (who is regarded by neocons as a close relative of Satan):

Looking back on U.S. diplomatic history, one of the great counterfactuals is what would have happened if Franklin D. Roosevelt had not replaced his vice president Henry Wallace with Harry Truman in 1944. Wallace was sympathetic to the Soviet Union and became an ardent opponent of the Cold War. If he had become president when FDR died, in April 1945, the next half century could have gone very differently -- likely no NATO, no Marshall Plan, no alliance with Japan, no overseas troop presence, and no European Union.

The U.S. is now teetering on another historically important moment. With Trump, we would not only be deprived of our Truman. We would be saddled with our Wallace -- a leader whose instincts and actions are diametrically opposed to what the moment requires.

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The good news is that the neocons are not omnipotent. They are adept at conning the public and they have the full cooperation of the corporate media, but the public is volatile and increasingly skeptical of the official "narratives." This is why the neocons are growing more and more hysterical in their public proclamations about "conspiracy theories" and "disinformation." They are in fact strongly in favor of conspiracy theories and disinformation, provided that it is their own conspiracy theories and not someone else's.

Neocons are demanding censorship of social media , to drive everyone into the arms of CNN and The Atlantic. As the election approaches, these demands have become increasingly more vociferous, leading to a major controversy with the decision by both Facebook and Twitter to censor the New York Post coverage of leaked email correspondence between Joe Biden's son and executives of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma (which employed him at a rather remarkable salary). The rationale offered by the two social media giants, that the sourcing of the emails was unclear, did not impress media critics, who pointed out that if that policy were applied in an even-handed fashion, Russiagate could never have happened.

As long as the option is open, follow alternative news sources online. I recommend the Grayzone and Consortium News , both of which I have found to be quiet reliable. The neocons are frightened; they worry about what John Durham's investigation, or the declassification of documents ordered by Trump, may reveal about their methods of manipulation. Frightened people make tactical errors. We must keep our wits about us and find ways to turn those errors to our advantage.

Nota Bene: the author of this article was subsequently suspended from Twitter without explanation. Contact @TwitterSupport and ask them why.

[Nov 21, 2020] Sidney Powell Claims That Dominion Is 'Shredding Documents' by Cortney O'Brien

Nov 21, 2020 | townhall.com

O'Connor pushed her about her claims that computer software used in the election, particularly Dominion Voting Systems, has been tainted, and he wondered how she would prove it. For starters, Powell said that her legal team has pictures of votes being manipulated in real-time.

"It is terrifying, and it is a huge national security issue," Powell said. "Why the Department of Justice and FBI have not done something, Dominion is closing its offices and moving. No doubt they're shredding documents. God only knows what else. More than 100 Dominion people have wiped any connection with Dominion off the internet."

She also claims that they have testimony from witnesses opening military ballots and trashing them if they were for Trump, and substitute ballots were put in for Biden.

"I'm essentially staking my personal and professional reputation on these allegations, and I have no hesitation from what I've seen in doing so," she noted. "In fact, I think it would be irresponsible if not criminal of me not to come forward with it."

She also says she would LOVE for Dominion to sue her over her allegations so she can conduct civil discovery. Powell also reacted to Fox News host Tucker Carlson's criticism of her on his program on Thursday night.

You can listen to their full interview below.

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[Nov 21, 2020] How 'Western' Media Select Their Foreign Correspondents

Nov 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

How 'Western' Media Select Their Foreign Correspondents gottlieb , Nov 20 2020 19:21 utc | 1

Did you ever wonder why 'western' mainstream media get stories about Russia and other foreign countries so wrong?

It is simple. They hire the most brainwashed, biased and cynic writers they can get for the job. Those who are corrupt enough to tell any lie required to support the world view of their editors and media owners.

They are quite upfront about it.

Here is evidence in form of a New York Times job description for a foreign correspondent position in Moscow:

Russia Correspondent

Job Description

Vladimir Putin's Russia remains one of the biggest stories in the world.

It sends out hit squads armed with nerve agents against its enemies, most recently the opposition leader Aleksei Navalny. It has its cyber agents sow chaos and disharmony in the West to tarnish its democratic systems, while promoting its faux version of democracy. It has deployed private military contractors around the globe to secretly spread its influence. At home, its hospitals are filling up fast with Covid patients as its president hides out in his villa.

If that sounds like a place you want to cover, then we have good news: We will have an opening for a new correspondent as Andy Higgins takes over as our next Eastern Europe Bureau Chief early next year.


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To be allowed to write for the Times one must see the Russian Federation as a country that is ruled by just one man.

One must be a fervent believer in MI6 produced Novichok hogwash. One must also believe in Russiagate and in the multiple idiocies it produced even after all of them have been debunked.

One must know that vote counts in Russia are always wrong while U.S. vote counting is the most reliable ever. Russian private military contractors (which one must know to be evil men) are 'secretly deployed' to wherever the editors claim them to be. Russia's hospitals are of cause always much worse than ours.

Even when it is easy to check that Vladimir Putin (the most evil man ever) is at work in the Kremlin the job will require one to claim that he is hiding in a villa.

Most people writing for the Times will actually not believe the above nonsense. But the description is not for a position that requires one to weight and report the facts. It is for a job that requires one to lie. That the Times lists all the recent nonsense about Russia right at the top of the job description makes it clear that only people who support those past lies will be considered adequate to tell future lies about Russia.

No honest unbiased person will want such a job. But as it comes with social prestige, a good paycheck and a probably nice flat in Moscow the New York Times will surely find a number of people who are willing to sell their souls to take it.

Interestingly the job advertisement does not list Russian language capabilities as a requirement. It only says that 'Fluency in Russian is preferred'.

'Western' mainstream media are filled with such biased, cynic and self-censoring correspondents who have little if any knowledge of the country they are reporting from. It is therefore not astonishing that 'western' populations as well as their politicians have often no knowledge of what is really happening in the world.

Hilarious. Don't need no stinking Operation Mockingbird anymore. Just put out a want-ad and plenty of brainwashed folks will come flocking. Propaganda works.

powerandpeople , Nov 20 2020 19:29 utc | 2

Soomeone said:

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed; everything else is public relations."

In this case "everything else is propaganda."

The job title is really 'Anti-Russia Propagandist'.

Jen , Nov 20 2020 19:31 utc | 3
This is such an odd job description with very few specific requirements and none detailing how much experience or what level of knowledge or skill is required (in the form of X number of years worked in some area requiring Russian language skills or university qualifications obtained) that I almost wonder if this advertisement is for real.

One notices also that "Vladimir Putin's Russia" is presented as a story. Everything else that follows in the second paragraph of the advertisement is also a story. Indeed everything in the news media industry is a "story" as if instead of employing investigative reporters on the beat grimly searching for hard facts like old pulp fiction detectives, the media now only wants Hollywood script writers or graduates straight out of creative writing courses.

But then I suppose whoever gets the job at the NYT can hardly do worse than what the hack Luke Harding did as The Fraudian's Moscow correspondent nearly 15 years ago, so much so that the Russian govt must have suspected that he was more than just a bad paranoid plagiarist ... he must have been a spy as well, that it would initially refuse to renew his visa. One would like to see the job specifications for the position of The Fraudian's Moscow reporter that Harding held for a number of years.

JimmyG. , Nov 20 2020 19:32 utc | 4
Incredible. What the acronym 'SMH' (shake my head) was invented for.

It's no wonder I switched off CBC radio, our national broadcaster here in Canada. Their music programs were okay, but every hour they had a news update, and those were stomach-turning. Superficial, biased, Empire-friendly nonsense...

Don Bacon , Nov 20 2020 19:32 utc | 5

Norman Solomon wrote about this problem fifteen years ago in his book "War Made Easy, How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us To Death"
. . .from Amazon: In War Made Easy, nationally syndicated columnist, media critic, and author Norman Solomon cuts through the dense web of spin to probe and scrutinize the key "perception management" techniques that have played huge rolls in the promotion of American wars in recent decades.

p.116

. . .The attitudes of reporters covering U.S. foreign policy officials are generally similar to the attitudes of those officials. "Most journalists who get plum foreign assignments already accept the assumptions of empire," according to longtime foreign correspondent Reese Erlick. He added, "I didn't meet a single foreign reporter in Iraq who disagreed with the notion that the U.S. and Britain have the right to overthrow the Iraq government by force. They disagreed only about timing, whether the action should be unilateral, and whether a long-term occupation is practical." After decades of freelancing for major U.S. news organizations, Erlich offered this blunt conclusion: "Money, prestige, career options, ideological predilections--combined with the down sides of filing stories unpopular with the government--all cast their influence on foreign correspondents. You don't win a Pulitzer prize for challenging the basic assumptions of empire."
uncle tungsten , Nov 20 2020 20:02 utc | 9

Thank you b.

Now here is a fine journalist they could simply contract for sane reporting on China . Plus excellent Russian analysis as well.

Good read with a link or two to consider.

Canadian Cents , Nov 20 2020 20:21 utc | 12

> social prestige, a good paycheck and a probably nice flat

The term that Paul Craig Roberts often uses, " presstitute ", comes to mind.

Echoing JimmyG. @4 and spudski @7, in Canada, our taxpayer-funded state news agency's flagship program "The National" gives us regular Two Minutes Hate pieces currently being churned out every two weeks or so by Moscow correspondent Chris Brown who fits this article's description to a T.

I've lost count of how many times he and CBC The National's editors have singled out Russia's handling of COVID-19 for criticism, when so many other countries have far worse per capita fatality numbers than Russia.

While decrying Russia's COVID-19 deaths, they, of course, never mention the fact that Canada has had more COVID-19 deaths per capita than Russia ...

Jpc , Nov 20 2020 21:00 utc | 15

It's absolutely pathetic.
5 years ago the truly great journalist Robert Fisk made the following observations during an interview with the journal.ie amongst others.
Back's up everything you have pointed out about the sheer disappearance of any impartial reportage from the NYT and printed media in general.

"Most newspapers that have lost circulation, particularly in the States, it's not because of the internet, it's because those newspapers were simply no good. When I go to San Francisco the coverage of the Middle East in its papers is frightened, cowardly, pathetic, there's no serious foreign coverage at all."

"Newspapers themselves are to blame for the deterioration in their readership. I read the New York Times when its free, period, it doesn't deserve to be paid for. It's not worth it.
It doesn't matter whether it's online or not. If a paper's not worth buying you'll read for free online regardless"

William Gruff , Nov 20 2020 21:03 utc | 17

"Most people writing for the Times will actually not believe the above nonsense."

Our host is much too charitable to the presstitutes. Those in the "Mockingbird" mass media eat their own effluent like a sort of group ouroboric scatophagia. To maintain their perverse form of "mental hygiene" they studiously avoid information sources outside of their own circular reprocessing of yesterday's delusions into fresh steaming piles for today's consumption. They have become so accustomed to feeding off their own delusions that if a hint of reality were to intrude into their looped intellectual food chain their minds would reject it like poison. They would likely exhibit physical symptoms, which doubtless would be attributed to evil Soviet mind rays from Havana.

Canadian Cents , Nov 20 2020 21:16 utc | 18

Quite scary how Western mainstream media are all marching in unison to the same beat.

Unfortunately it sounds like this creeping facism could get even worse:

Biden State Media Appointee Advocated Using Propaganda Against Americans

Stengel stated clearly that a "news cartel" of mainstream corporate media outlets had long dominated US society, but he bemoaned that those "cartels don't have hegemony like they used to."

Stengel made it clear that his mission is to counter the alternative perspectives given a voice by foreign media platforms that challenge the US-dominated media landscape.

"The bad actors use journalistic objectivity against us."

Wow ...

I clicked on the New York Times job link, and journalistic objectivity and integrity are nowhere to be found in the job descripton. But I did notice these lines that add to the ones that b brought to our attention:

We are looking for someone who will embrace the prospect of traversing 11 time zones to track a populace that is growing increasingly frustrated with an economy dragged down by corruption, cronyism and excessive reliance on natural resources. This posting offers the chance to chronicle the continuing reign of one of the world's most charismatic leaders, President Vladimir V. Putin.

Not to mention, Putin ushered in changes to the constitution, so he will likely stay in power for many years to come.

And, of course, we are on the cusp of a new, less Putin-friendly president in the US, which should only raise the temperature between Washington and Moscow.

Wow again ...

Don Bacon , Nov 20 2020 21:19 utc | 19

It's not Russia it's "Vladimir Putin's Russia," so that's one mandatory term checked off, i.e. personalizing the appointed enemy. But then we read "It sends out hit squads. . ." instead of the usual obligatory: 'The regime' . . . . .but the Times can't get everything right.

Paco , Nov 20 2020 21:21 utc | 20

A flat in Moscow!!! A soul could sold for it... but, there are job openings in Russia, here, a farmer is recruiting:

https://youtu.be/8HZ4DnVfWYQ

Kooshy , Nov 20 2020 22:07 utc | 24

The amount of hourly propaganda directed at and leveled at American people is unprecedented, I had not seen it this intense in past years it reminds me of my High school days in Shah's Iran. This kind and this intense of control on news can only be due to instability of the regime. IMO in coming Biden Adminstration regime will impose new rules for control of internet and access to foreign news. Currently using my Mobil cellular I can't access any Iranian news site.

kiwiklown , Nov 21 2020 1:30 utc | 37

"Those who are corrupt enough to tell any lie required to support the world view of their editors and media owners."

C S Lewis called this type bastards.

I agree, and hope they are reading this right now.

Oz , Nov 21 2020 0:32 utc | 36

https://marisol-nostromo.medium.com/the-unfinished-work-of-the-church-committee-f702ac8f94b1

[Nov 21, 2020] Hypocrites among holder of Hippocratic oath: doctors described as "top brass" were in attendance and also flouting the rules -- the same rules doctors and politicians have been demanding everyone else comply with in the name of "science."

Nov 21, 2020 | townhall.com

This week, photos surfaced of California Governor Gavin Newsom dining at one of the most expensive restaurants in the world. He wasn't alone, and he wasn't in a mask.

Newsom was in a tightly packed, indoor room with a dozen other people. It was a birthday party for longtime lobbyist Jason Kinney, and a number of California Medical Association members attended. That's right, doctors described as "top brass" were in attendance and also flouting the rules -- the same rules doctors and politicians have been demanding everyone else comply with in the name of "science."


[Nov 20, 2020] Quotes and Political Wisdom from Kurt Vonnegut

Nov 20, 2020 | www.liveabout.com

"There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don't know what can be done to fix it. This is it: Only nut cases want to be president."

"So let's give another big tax cut to the super-rich. That'll teach bin Laden a lesson he won't soon forget."

"The overwhelming popularity of President Bush , in spite of everything, finally shows us what the American people, whom we have so sentimentalized for so long, a la Norman Rockwell, really are, thanks to TV and purposely lousy public schools: ignorant. Count on it!"

"The two real political parties in America are the Winners and the Losers. The people don't acknowledge this. They claim membership in two imaginary parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, instead."

"Our president is a Christian? So was Adolf Hitler."

"The last thing I ever wanted was to be alive when the three most powerful people on the whole planet would be named Bush , Dick , and Colon."

[Nov 20, 2020] George Carlin Quotes on Politics

Nov 20, 2020 | www.liveabout.com

"The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post 'Thou shalt not steal,' 'Thou shalt not commit adultery,' and 'Thou shalt not lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment."

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."

"Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they?"

"These days many politicians are demanding change. Just like homeless people."

"The owners of this country know the truth: It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

"I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don't vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain,' but where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote -- who did not even leave the house on Election Day -- am in no way responsible for what these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created."

[Nov 20, 2020] Why Facebook, Twitter, Google, Fox News, CNN, and more giant corporations keep screaming at us that there was no election fraud

Because they are part of it ;-)
Pretty damning condemnation of fake news at 51:50
Nov 20, 2020 | www.nytimes.com
DNC PoliticalPrisoner 31 minutes ago Many wouldn't have believed there was election fraud except the media and Big Tech keep insisting that there wasn't. Facebook, Twitter, Google, Fox News, CNN, and more giant corporations keep screaming at us via notifications, messages, and broadcasts that there was no election fraud. Now, we're starting to think maybe there is something fishy going on.

[Nov 20, 2020] Neocons logic surprises normal people, but money does not smell: Senator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois angrily condemned the withdrawal plan with deranged reasoning: that Generals are against withdrawal (as though we have no civilian control of the military); troops will come home "in body bags" not by staying in Afghanistan but by leaving it; and that withdrawing U.S. forces after a mere nineteen years of fighting will endanger "our national security."

Nov 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

As Trump again signals that he intends in the lame-duck session to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, this same united coalition is working desperately to block it. First, Democratic Senator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois angrily condemned the withdrawal plan with deranged reasoning: that Generals are against withdrawal (as though we have no civilian control of the military); troops will come home "in body bags" not by staying in Afghanistan but by leaving it; and that withdrawing U.S. forces after a mere nineteen years of fighting will endanger "our national security."

[Nov 20, 2020] Sometimes I notice I'm demented, especially at sunset

Nov 20, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Moneycircus , Nov 17, 2020 9:40 PM Reply to Doug Henwood

"Sometimes I notice I'm demented, especially at sunset."
― Jaroslav Hašek, The Good Soldier Švejk

[Nov 19, 2020] Biden's beholden to big money defense industries Sanders' brother

Nov 19, 2020 | www.rt.com

While probably "less aggressively nasty" than Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden is still a "conventional politician," but it won't be easy for him to dismiss his party's progressive wing, Larry Sanders told RT's Going Underground.

Brother to US Senator Bernie Sanders and the Green Party Spokesperson on Health and Social Care (England & Wales), Larry Sanders told RT's Going Underground host Afshin Rattansi that while Biden was not his "choice" for president, he prefers him over the current incumbent, President Donald Trump.

... ... ...

As a fixture of the establishment, Biden will follow the interests of corporate money and the military-industrial complex rather than anybody else's, Sanders noted.

"Biden is a conventional politician, he is beholden to big money, he is beholden to defense industries,


joe_go 13 hours ago 19 Nov, 2020 07:03 AM

If no one in America went to vote the country would still look the way it looks today. The big money and military industry would run the country the way it runs it when people vote and think it matters.
Spirgily_Klump 20 hours ago 19 Nov, 2020 12:46 AM
Do you know after Biden was out of the VP office the Chinese communist party had donated $70 million to one of his foundations at the University of Pennsylvania from which Joe drew a salary of over $900,000 per year? With his benefiting from the hundreds of millions his family took in from foreign powers and persons how can he gain the security clearance necessary for the presidency? The president needs the highest clearance. Even an applicant to the CIA get polygraphed.
shadow1369 Spirgily_Klump 9 hours ago 19 Nov, 2020 11:00 AM
Just one of many skeletons jangling in Bidet's closet, they will be used by his controllers to keep him on track.
Iwanasay 19 hours ago 19 Nov, 2020 01:22 AM
It doesn't matter who is in power, America's destiny has been chosen by other behind the scene faces
RedDragon 15 hours ago 19 Nov, 2020 05:27 AM
All USA presidents are beholden to big money entities, inclusive incoming Biden presidency. Trump is beholden to the Jewish money powers etc..

[Nov 19, 2020] The same imbeciles who camp out in front of a store overnight waiting for Black Friday sales are the ones who claim that getting to the voting booth is too great an inconvenience

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Anyone who will not generate a bit of effort to get to the polls in timely fashion probably should not vote anyway. ..."
Nov 13, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

Anyone who will not generate a bit of effort to get to the polls in timely fashion probably should not vote anyway.

The same imbeciles who camp out in front of a store overnight waiting for Black Friday sales or spend three days on line waiting to buy concert tickets, are often the ones who claim that getting to the voting booth is too great an inconvenience.

We ought to have accommodations for seriously disabled citizens and for citizens who are outside the country ie. our people in military service.

[Nov 19, 2020] Change we can believe in: We went from 4 years of Russia rigged the election , to elections can't be rigged really fast didn't we?

Nov 08, 2020 | twitter.com
Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr 9h
We went from 4 years of Russia rigged the election, to elections can't be rigged really fast didn't we???

[Nov 19, 2020] Former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence suggests the way to deal with US illusion of democracy once and for all by adopting Iranian model

This is quite similar to Iran's Guardian Council which has 12 members. The Guardian Council approves candidates for president and majlis (Congress).
Oct 02, 2020 | www.rt.com

Frank Figliuzzi, former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence, says a President Trump "can't happen again," so a "bipartisan committee," rather than voters, should "vet" and approve future candidates. Figliuzzi, who worked under Robert Mueller at the FBI, made it clear during a Thursday appearance on MSNBC he buys into conspiracy theories about Donald Trump being influenced by the Russian government, calling him Figliuzzi, who worked under Robert Mueller at the FBI, made it clear during a Thursday appearance on MSNBC he buys into conspiracy theories about Donald Trump being influenced by the Russian government, calling him "the most vulnerable president in history."

Figliuzzi's suggestion of giving a vague "committee" more power over the selection of presidential candidates than actual voters has earned criticism from both liberals and conservatives on social media, with many seeing the idea as "scary" and a step in the direction of countries where people have little power in who is put in power.

"Reminds me of Iran's Guardian Council, which has 12 members. The Guardian Council approves candidates for president and majlis (Congress)," Huffington Post journalist Yashar Ali tweeted, adding, "Great idea, let's become like Iran that's going to turn out well, I'm sure."

[Nov 19, 2020] Polls are a tool of voter supression

In a free society you need to convince citizens of the government legitimacy.
Nov 19, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Tucker: We heard you. It's hard to trust anything. Here's what we know.

[Nov 19, 2020] Tucker- Big Tech s coordinated suppression amounts to a censorship cartel

Nov 19, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Tucker Carlson exposes American corporations for teaming up to censor political opponents.

Clare Breanna , 8 hours ago

Seems like they want to isolate everyone. Makes us all vulnerable.

jim hall , 8 hours ago

Electing buying is like having a Trojan horse coming into this White House


Kirk Patrick
, 5 hours ago

Republican Senators to Big Tech: "Why are you censoring Americans?" Democrat Senators to Big Tech: "Why don't you censor Americans more?"

[Nov 19, 2020] Words and reality

Nov 19, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Why are we continuing to train these Afghanis who then shoot our soldiers in the back? Afghanistan is a complete waste. Time to come home!
4:05 PM · Aug 21, 2012

Barack Obama @BarackObama
VP Biden on Afghanistan: "We are leaving in 2014. Period."
4:05am · 12 Oct 2012
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I agree with Pres. Obama on Afghanistan. We should have a speedy withdrawal. Why should we keep wasting our money -- rebuild the U.S.!
9:59 PM · Jan 14, 2013
Barack Obama @BarackObama
President Obama: "By the end of next year, our war in Afghanistan will be over."
3:58am · 13 Feb 2013
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
We should leave Afghanistan immediately. No more wasted lives. If we have to go back in, we go in hard & quick. Rebuild the US first.
8:10 PM · Mar 1, 2013
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
We should have the small remaining number of our BRAVE Men and Women serving in Afghanistan home by Christmas!
1:28 AM · Oct 8, 2020

[Nov 19, 2020] In worst scenario, Mr Trump can move to Israel and take part in Israel president election. After elected, he can control Washington again from Jerusalem!

Nov 17, 2020 | www.rt.com
Wayne Dupree- Trump should stay on the job, remain confident keep going with his legal action all the way to the Supreme Court

billboss9999 13 November, 2020 13 Nov, 2020 06:12 PM

In worst scenario, Mr Trump can move to Israel and take part in Israel president election. After elected, he can control Washington again from Jerusalem!

[Nov 19, 2020] A side effect of Biden win

Nov 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

SurfingUSA , 1 hour ago

Now you also know how Biden beat Sanders.

[Nov 19, 2020] You misspelled propagandist.

Nov 08, 2020 | twitter.com

Don Lemon @donlemon · Nov 7

I don't dare speak fir my colleagues, but I can't tell you how difficult it's been as a journalist to cover this dark part of our history. Let's hope the attacks on journalists, journalism and EVERYONE end. Time to move into the light.

AllSeeingElbow @allseeingelbow · Nov 7

You misspelled propagandist.

[Nov 19, 2020] Resist. Overturn. Boycott. Surveil. Leak. Impeach. And now they tell us it's time to heal. Where were they for the last four years?

Nov 08, 2020 | twitter.com

Ari Fleischer @AriFleischer

Resist. Overturn. Boycott. Surveil. Leak. Impeach. And now they tell us it's time to heal. Where were they for the last four years?

[Nov 18, 2020] Hawley Bucks Trend, Backs Afghanistan Exit

Hawlwy wrote to the acting Defense secretary, Christopher C. Miller. "The costs of the war in Afghanistan continue to mount, and they are borne disproportionately by working Americans. For these reasons, majorities of Americans, including veterans of the war itself, have long called for an end to the war in Afghanistan. Yet most of our nation's policymakers have ignored them."
Nov 17, 2020 | hawley.senate.gov

By siding with Trump's push to leave the country, the rising star senator distinguishes himself on the right.

CURT MILLS

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., allied himself with the White House and those calling for a swift exit from Afghanistan on Tuesday.

"I write to express my support for President Trump's plan for the prompt withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan," Hawley wrote to the acting Defense secretary, Christopher C. Miller. "The costs of the war in Afghanistan continue to mount, and they are borne disproportionately by working Americans. For these reasons, majorities of Americans, including veterans of the war itself, have long called for an end to the war in Afghanistan. Yet most of our nation's policymakers have ignored them."

Hawley's signaling is significant because it runs counter to the political assault on the Hill by Republicans to stop President Trump's plot to exit from the troubled theater in his administration's closing days. On Monday, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell expressed, in no uncertain terms, his vociferous opposition to a further drawdown: "A rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan now would hurt our allies and delight the people who wish us harm."

McConnell was joined by Michael McCaul, the ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, among others, in expressing his displeasure with recent developments in President Trump's national security team. An embattled Trump has suddenly cleaned house at the Pentagon , in a maneuver widely described as essentially outlaw.

Trump's moves at DoD are seen as part score-settling -- and part delivering on a major campaign promise. If he sticks the landing, Trump's acolytes insist drawing down further in Afghanistan cracks the door open still wider for a potential 2024 repeat run.

"You wrote recently, 'All wars must end,'" Hawley wrote to Miller. "The time has come to end the war in Afghanistan. I urge you to stand with President Trump and bring our troops home as expeditiously as possible."

Hawley has now staked out new territory, putting finishing touches on a Afghanistan policy he has been developing for some time. In September, he told this magazine : "It's time for a strategic refocus. We have spent too much time on adventures in the Middle East and elsewhere that do not serve our strategic aims and place enormous burdens on the class of working men and women who fight our wars."

Notably, Hawley's statements stand apart from other Republican senators, who are keen to enhance their bona fides to become the leader of a future, "realigned" Republican Party.

Echoing McConnell, Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida told Politico : "The concern would be it would turn into a Saigon-type of situation where it would fall very quickly and then our ability to conduct operations against terrorist elements in the region could be compromised. That's my primary concern right now."

But the leadership class in Republican Washington continues to mostly diverge from those reading the tea leaves on the future of the party. Rubio was not joined by Sen. Tom Cotton, who is traditionally seen as the most hawkish of the trio. Cotton has previously noted that he shares Trump's frustration with the war. And Ted Cruz, another 2024 contender, has so far been silent.


dragnet20 a day ago ,

Nice rhetoric, but I'll believe it when I see it.

In any case, Hawley is the only GOP hopeful on the scene right now I could remotely contemplate voting for in 2024. Will continue watching him with interest.

Royal Oaks dragnet20 a day ago ,

"I'll believe it when I see it."

Me too. Too many Israeli and Saudi meddlers in Washington. They get what they want, and they don't want Americans coming home.

Rkramden66 a day ago ,

Wake me up when Hawley renounces his opposition to labor unions.

CPT a day ago ,

That's good to see. I like Hawley a lot on domestic policy, but he's stuck to a more or less pre-Trump GOP foreign policy up till now. He needs to drop the deranged hostility to Iran to really win my support, but supporting a drawdown of our Middle Eastern wars is better than the neocons banging the drums for indefinite occupations.

CPT a day ago ,

That's good to see. I like Hawley a lot on domestic policy, but he's stuck to a more or less pre-Trump GOP foreign policy up till now. He needs to drop the deranged hostility to Iran to really win my support, but supporting a drawdown of our Middle Eastern wars is better than the neocons banging the drums for indefinite occupations.

Feral Finster a day ago ,

According to Reuters, citing Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, U.S. troop numbers in Afghanistan will be reduced, but not a full withdrawal.

Once again, a failed Trump pullout. Such a pathetic little cuck.

marku52 Feral Finster 7 hours ago ,

Really. Just write the damned document. Withdraw within 2 weeks. Get it over. This war is old enough to vote, for Dog's sake.

kouroi a day ago ,

Removal of troops from Syria should be the first step, since the illegality of that occupation is the most obvious, and then Iraq. Afghanistan is somewhat prioritize because it is less important strategically right now and more cumbersome to deal with...

But the US would rather have its diplomatic missions in every country replaced with military bases...Superpowers!


ZizaNiam
kouroi 20 hours ago
,

Israel needs the US troops there to facilitate the genocide of Syria's Christians, which General Soleimani and Hezbollah, along with the Syrian Arab Army, were protecting.

kouroi ZizaNiam 19 hours ago ,

Oh, nothing so base. It's about the Golan Heights and preserving and maybe even extending land holdings Israel has secured, including in Jordan...

PR Doucette a day ago ,

The saddest thing about this whole affair is that it is a sham to make it look as if Trump has kept his promise to bring US troops home and then blame Biden for supporting endless wars if he has to send US troops back in to protect the troops that were left behind. As the graduate of an elite law school Hawley is bright enough to know that terrorism is not going to abate in Afghanistan or the Middle East or in parts of Africa but he also realizes that the great grandparents of the people who voted for him were skeptical about the US entering WWI, had grandparents who did not see any reason to enter WWII until Pearl Harbor, and parents who did not think invading Afghanistan made sense until 9/11. If you are thinking of running for president in 2024 this may seem like a reasonable political move but ultimately really shows how facile Hawley's understanding of international affairs really is and a basic dishonesty about what is really involved in maintaining US global power.

I Don't Matter • a day ago ,

Trump only had 3 years and 10 months to do this. If only he were interested in ending wars as opposed to trying hard to start new ones.

[Nov 18, 2020] A small but important correction in terminology: when they say "Joe Biden's Foreign Policy Team" they actually means "Citibank's foreign policy Team"

Notable quotes:
"... Citibank's foreign policy Team would be much more accurate wouldn't it ? ..."
Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

dave , Nov 17 2020 20:08 utc | 33

"Joe Biden's Foreign Policy Team"

Citibank's foreign policy Team would be much more accurate wouldn't it ?

That's like saying Obomber or Bush had their own foreign and economic policy.

... ... ...

[Nov 18, 2020] Biden Administration will no doubt suffer the same fate if it seeks to reject or challenge Israel's ability to manipulate and virtually control key aspects of U.S. foreign policy. by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... There is some pushback in Washington to Israeli dominance, but not much. Recent senior Pentagon appointee Colonel Douglas Macgregor famously has pointed out that many American politicians get "very, very rich" through their support of Israel even though it means the United States being dragged into new wars. ..."
Nov 18, 2020 | www.unz.com

That Israel would blatantly and openly interfere in the deliberations of Congress raises some serious questions which the mainstream media predictably is not addressing. Jewish power in America is for real and it is something that some Jews are not shy about discussing among themselves. Jewish power is unique in terms of how it functions. If you're an American ( or British ) politician, you very quickly are made to appreciate that Israel owns you and nearly all of your colleagues. Indeed, the process begins in the U.S. even before your election when the little man from AIPAC shows up with the check list that he wants you to sign off on. If you behave per instructions your career path will be smooth, and you will benefit from your understanding that everything happening in Washington that is remotely connected to the interests of the state of Israel is to be determined by the Jewish state alone, not by the U.S. Congress or White House.

And, here is the tricky part, even while you are energetically kowtowing to Netanyahu, you must strenuously deny that there is Jewish power at work if anyone ever asks you about it. You behave in that fashion because you know that your pleasant life will be destroyed, painfully, if you fail to deny the existence of an Israel Lobby or the Jewish power that supports it.

It is a bold assertion, but there is plenty of evidence to support how that power is exerted and what the consequences are. Senators William Fulbright and Chuck Percy and Congressmen Paul Findlay, Pete McCloskey and Cynthia McKinney have all experienced the wrath of the Lobby and voted out of office. Currently Reverend Raphael Warnock, who is running against Georgia Loeffler for a senate seat in Georgia demonstrates exactly how candidates are convinced to stand on their heads by the Israel Lobby. Warnock was a strong supporter of Palestinian rights and a critic of Israeli brutality. He said as recently as 2018 that the Israelis were shooting civilians and condemned the military occupation and settlement construction on the Palestinian West Bank, which he compared to apartheid South Africa. Now that he is running for the Senate, he is saying that he is opposed to the Boycotts, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement due to what he calls the movement's "anti-Semitic overtones." He also supports continued military assistance for Israel and believes that Iran is in pursuit of a nuclear weapon, both of which are critical issues being promoted by the Zionist lobby.

There is some pushback in Washington to Israeli dominance, but not much. Recent senior Pentagon appointee Colonel Douglas Macgregor famously has pointed out that many American politicians get "very, very rich" through their support of Israel even though it means the United States being dragged into new wars. Just how Israel gains control of the U.S. political process is illustrated by the devastating insider tale of how the Obama Administration's feeble attempts to do the right thing in the Middle East were derailed by American Jews in Congress, the media, party donors and from inside the White House itself. The story is of particularly interest as the Biden Administration will no doubt suffer the same fate if it seeks to reject or challenge Israel's ability to manipulate and virtually control key aspects of U.S. foreign policy.

The account of Barack Obama's struggle with Israel and the Israeli Lobby comes from a recently published memoir written by a former foreign policy adviser Ben Rhodes. It is entitled The World As It Is , and it is extremely candid about how Jewish power was able to limit the foreign policy options of a popular sitting president. Rhodes recounts, for example, how Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel once nicknamed him "Hamas" after he dared to speak up for Palestinian human rights, angrily shouting at him "Hamas over here is going to make it impossible for my kid to have his fucking bar mitzvah in Israel."

Rhodes cites numerous instances where Obama was forced to back down when confronted by Israel and its supporters in the U.S. as well as within the Democratic Party. On several occasions, Netanyahu lecture the U.S. president as if he were an errant schoolboy. And Obama just had to take it. Rhodes sums up the situation as follows: "In Washington, where support for Israel is an imperative for members of Congress, there was a natural deference to the views of the Israeli government on issues related to Iran, and Netanyahu was unfailingly confrontational, casting himself as an Israeli Churchill . AIPAC and other organizations exist to make sure that the views of the Israeli government are effectively disseminated and opposing views discredited in Washington, and this dynamic was a permanent part of the landscape of the Obama presidency."

And, returning to the persistent denial of Jewish power even existing when it is running full speed and relentlessly, Rhodes notes the essential dishonesty of the Israel Lobby as it operates in Washington: "Even to acknowledge the fact that AIPAC was spending tens of millions to defeat the Iran deal [JCPOA] was anti-Semitic. To observe that the same people who supported the war in Iraq also opposed the Iran deal was similarly off limits. It was an offensive way for people to avoid accountability for their own positions."

Many Americans long to live in a country that is at peace with the world and respectful of the sovereignty of foreign nations. Alas, as long as Israeli interests driven by overwhelming Jewish power in the United States continue to corrupt our institutions that just will not be possible. It is time for all Americans, including Jews, to accept that Israel is a foreign country that must make its own decisions and thereby suffer the consequences. The United States does not exist to bail Israel out or to provide cover for its bad behavior. The so-called "special relationship" must end and the U.S. must deal with the Israelis as they would with any other country based on America's own self-interests. Those interests definitely do not include funding the Israeli war machine, assassinating foreign leaders, or attacking a non-threatening Iran while continuing an illegal occupation of Syria.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .

[Nov 18, 2020] When any Washington Swamp creature talks about "threats to US national security" in reality they are talking about threats to the USA global hegemony

Highly recommended!
Threat inflation is like Apple pie among Washington swamp national security parasites
Notable quotes:
"... The US security state, with its huge military forces and techno-industrial base, and no diplomatic need nor capability, REQUIRES (fake) "security threats" in order to exist. ..."
"... Those appointed "threats" are currently, probably not changing soon, in some order of "threat-size" . . . ..."
Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Don Bacon , Nov 17 2020 22:23 utc | 66

Applying any logic to the "threats" against the US "national security" AKA world hegemony becomes much simpler with recognizing two simple facts:

1. The US security state, with its huge military forces and techno-industrial base, and no diplomatic need nor capability, REQUIRES (fake) "security threats" in order to exist.

2. Those appointed "threats" are currently, probably not changing soon, in some order of "threat-size" . . .

China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Venezuela, & African "terrorists" -- did I miss anyone?

[Nov 18, 2020] A short summary of Trump achivements: Good -- a cut of State department regime change budget; Bad -- extra 149 billion to MIC via Pentagon budget

Highly recommended!
Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Nov 17 2020 20:56 utc | 43

US State Department budget

2016: $53.4 billion
2020: $44.12 billion

Good job, Trump! Nice cut of that regime change budget!

Who wants to bet that Harris and the dead guy try to hike this budget for 2021 back up above its levels in its glory days of color revolutions?

Geronimo Black , Nov 17 2020 21:24 utc | 49

2016 Dept of Defense budget $585.3 billion
2020 Dept of Defense budget $665.0 billion +
2020 OCO (imperialist war operations) 69.0 billion

Is this added $149 billion in defense spending a "peace president" dividend I wonder?

[Nov 18, 2020] Stacey Abrams "My heart is full"; Probably the purse is full too

Stacey Abrams work for increasing turnout among minorities is all fake: the black share of Georgia's electorate fell to its lowest level since 2006
What is unclear whey it is considered a virtue to force people are not interested in politics and who do not want to vote to cast their votes
Nov 18, 2020 | thefederalist.com

The Huffington Post lauded Abrams's work driving up turnout among minorities.

"Experts say Black voter turnout in Georgia during the 2020 election likely broke records," read captions of a three-minute video, only for the unnamed "experts" to be shown completely off.

According to a subsequent analysis of updated voter data from The New York Times Tuesday, the black share of Georgia's electorate fell to its lowest level since 2006.

The race in Georgia, the Times explained, was decided primarily by demographic changes in the suburban ring surrounding Atlanta, where Biden outperformed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton among wealthy and well-educated suburbanites.

... "My heart is full," Abrams wrote as Biden took the lead the week of election day.

[Nov 18, 2020] In Nevada, A Corrupt Cash-For-Votes Scheme Is Hiding In Plain Sight

Nov 18, 2020 | thefederalist.com

The mass mailing of unsolicited ballots is of course a recipe for fraud, even more so in a state where the voter rolls contain tens of thousands of people who haven't voted or updated their records in more than a decade. This is how you get dead people voting, as we reported here at The Federalist and as Tucker Carlson noted last week .

But there's another, less sensational but perhaps more consequential election scandal in Nevada that hasn't yet made headlines, even though it's been hiding in plain sight for weeks now. Under the guise of supposedly nonprofit, nonpartisan get-out-the-vote campaigns, Native American voter advocacy groups in Nevada handed out gift cards, electronics, clothing, and other items to voters in tribal areas, in many cases documenting the exchange of ballots for "prizes" on their own Facebook pages, sometimes even while wearing official Joe Biden campaign gear.

Simply put, this is illegal. Offering voters anything of value in exchange for their vote is a violation of federal election law , and in some cases punishable by up to two years in prison and as much as $10,000 in fines . That includes raffles, free food, free T-shirts, and so on.

... ... ...

There are about 60,000 eligible Native American voters in Nevada who make up about 3 percent of the state's total voting population. That's almost twice the current margin of Biden's current lead over President Trump in Nevada. So the Native American vote really does matter, it could even be decisive. It therefore matters how many Native American votes were influenced by an illegal cash-for-votes scheme, especially if funding for it came from American taxpayers via the NCAI.

It also matters because this didn't just happen in Nevada. Organizers there might have been more obvious about what they were doing, but there's evidence that similar efforts, including gift card and electronics giveaways, were undertaken in Native communities in South Dakota , Arizona , Wisconsin , Washington , Michigan , Idaho , Minnesota , and Texas .

All of this coordinated illegal activity, clearly designed to churn out votes for Biden and Democrats in tribal areas all across the country, is completely out in the open. You don't need special access or some secret source to find out about it. You just have be curious, look around, and report it.

Unfortunately, mainstream media outlets are not curious and refuse to report on any of this stuff. What's described above is an egregious and totally transparent vote-buying scheme in Nevada that was likely undertaken on a similar scale across nearly a dozen other states, but you won't read about it in The New York Times, or hear about it on CNN.

That's not because the story is unimportant, but because, for the media establishment, it's inconvenient. No wonder these groups didn't try to hide what they were doing.

[Nov 18, 2020] Fear and Russia-Loathing in the National Lawyers Guild - Black Agenda Report

Nov 18, 2020 | blackagendareport.com

Trump's election, Russiagate and the smear campaign against Julian Assange have deluded and disoriented many "left" organizations.

"I was shocked at the virulent animosity to anything Putin."

I returned from a delegation to Russia a year ago, so am now more sensitive to the pervasive and persistent anti-Russia propaganda in this country. To prepare for my trip, I read Stephen Cohen's War with Russia? , which I believe is an unimpeachable source of information. So I was dismayed to learn of his recent death, because he was a voice of reason amidst the salivating war fever. Caitlin Johnstone does justice to his memory: " We should heed the dire warnings that Cohen spent his last breaths issuing. We should...call for détente with Russia and China. We should begin creating an opposition to this world-threatening flirtation with armageddon before it is too late."

The delegation was led by Sharon Tennison, founder of Center for Citizens Initiatives , which has been taking citizen diplomacy delegations to the USSR and Russia since 1983. On her recent 84th birthday she published a letter about where she sees current US/Russian relations , including the risk of nuclear war. I posted her letter to a listserv of the National Lawyers Guild, an organization I have been a member of for 37 years. Although I have previously exposed the NLG for losing its political compass, I was shocked at the virulent animosity to anything Putin, or even Russian, in the emails it generated.

Unfortunately, this anti-Russia bias is not unique to the Guild. Trump's election, Russiagate, and the smear campaign against Julian Assange have deluded and disoriented many organizations and individuals with profoundly critical and activist traditions, including the Pacifica radio network , Democratic Socialists of America and Democracy Now! Since COVID, China is now in the US crosshairs as well, with increased risk of catastrophe. The intent of this article is to expose this extremely dangerous political tendency, with the Guild as but one example, because it is increasing international hostilities, at our peril. What we desperately need is an anti-war movement.

"China is now in the US crosshairs as well."

I shared with a retired lawyer and fellow-member of the Russia delegation that a Guild member said I would create more chaos than clarity on the left if I exposed the Guild. She responded "'You will create more chaos than clarity on the Left,' sounds like old-time, 1930's communism when it was politically incorrect to criticize any defects in the party. Any organization, or any individual, that lacks the backbone to stand up to criticism and to examine itself to see if that criticism is warranted, and to self-correct if it is or to vigorously defend itself if it isn't, is weak, an empty box echoing platitudes it cannot defend."

Tennison received many positive responses to her birthday letter, such as:

"I thank you for the gift of that wonderfully thoughtful letter!"
"I liked your perspectives on President Putin."
"I think you make a persuasive case."
"I am forwarding your message to others."

Apparently, it's controversial to publish group emails anonymously without the author's consent. I told Tennison that the many Guild responses were largely hostile to her point of view and asked if it was ethical to expose them. She said, " I think you should expose them on their ungrounded biases. Tell them to go see the country that was collapsing from communism and then robbed blind by the oligarchs in the 90s, then finally began to get up on its knees by the early 2000s and today is in amazing shape. What do you mean when you ask 'what are the ethics?' You should tell the truth! That's the height of ethics!!!"

"You should expose them on their ungrounded biases."

Guild responses, which echo what many "progressive" groups are saying, include: "This is garbage propaganda... Anyone with a small amount of knowledge of Russia knows this article is absolutely not true. No matter what you think of the current state of our government, we have nothing to gain from Putin. There is nothing admirable about him as a leader and there is nothing admirable about his government. I can't even fathom the motivation for disseminating this....I am hardly a lover of American MSM propaganda, but I am getting tired of seeing knee-jerk reactions to any criticism or negative news about Putin or RT...I don't know if Tennison's piece is propaganda (implying some intent), but it certainly is misguided. I (and probably a fair number of other folks on this list) have not met Putin and am not particularly invested in this debate...move this offlist, or set up a 'debates about politicians foreign and domestic' sublist...I was disputing the accuracy of the author's description of Putin's character and questioning why Putin's character is being defended on an NLG listserv."

A former comrade, who still probably calls himself a socialist, claimed it is an electoral issue: "Riva doesn't give a damn if Trump is re-elected by the electoral college,...She even attacked the NLG for failing to oppose Russia Today having to register as a foreign agent. The discussion is a total turn-off to new and veteran members alike." Others voiced election concerns: " Support for Putin is support for Trump...When I see an article like this come, apparently, out of the blue and unrelated to the NLG's mission, I wonder who benefits from propping up Putin's character?...It's difficult for me to believe that there are NLG members who want to rehabilitate Putin's image in order to help the Trump Administration...My fears are that the election is the motivation for the email supporting Putin."

" Support for Putin is support for Trump."

A Guild member of over 30 years said, "When nonsense like that is sent out by Guild members it contributes to making the Guild irrelevant." Several others claimed the wisdom of age and Red-rearing: "My own father was in Local 1199 In the 1930s and recruited and covered for the absences of NYC Health workers sent to Spain as medics and ambulance drivers in the Spanish Civil War... what could be more " pinko " than that!...Putin and his boss Leningrad Mayor Anatoly Sobchak visited Los Angeles in the 1980s on a visit arranged by the LA-St Petersburg Sister City Committee ( on which I served along with the CEO of Lockheed and other major LA area companies). A fruit of their visit was booking a float in the Rose Parade featuring tourism in St. Petersburg! Can't make this up!" [What is wrong with that? I wish we could build more sister city relationships in Russia. I recently tried to get San Francisco to consider having a sister city in Russia, and was told it wasn't a good time to do so.]

Another long-term socialist comrade said " in defending, as you do, Putin and Putin's Russia, you lose credibility with Guild folks who, I suspect, also share our desire to not see a US-Western World conflict with Russia. It is one thing to defend against red-baiting...as one called before HUAC during Vietnam, believe me, I am deeply opposed to red-baiting...it is another to present a picture of Putin which, quite frankly, does not square with reality. (I know, you believe the western press gives us a false picture of Putin. But there are plenty on the left, and in the left media, that have a very different assessment of Putin than the woman writing that letter you sent around.)" It is remarkable that people who challenge my questioning of the groupthink on Russia, refuse to offer a coherent, written counter to my perspective or a defense of the groupthink.

And the younger generation: " These kinds of threads are the reason people unsubscribe from lists and/or are turned away from the NLG altogether. I'm a very new member and am very disheartened to see this exchange from Guild members who set the example for my generation This is setting a bad precedent for the Next Gen by putting this BS on the NLG List...Well, speaking for myself, this Next Gen member is unsubscribing, having applied my own judgment values and critical thinking skills to the situation...This is a barrier to the Guild's outreach and membership development, and has encouraged me to channel my energy into other organizations."

"People who challenge my questioning of the groupthink on Russia, refuse to offer a coherent, written counter to my perspective."

And of course people use the danger of fascism : "Many of us generally support radical or left ideals. With the rise of fascism in this country, now, more than ever, we need to promote inclusion and allyship rather than sectarianism and exclusion?" Does principled debate (let alone simply posting a letter) imply "sectarianism and exclusion" and foreclose "inclusion and allyship?" Others said there is an "expectation that we be collegial" and "good to each other."

One of the very few positive responses came from a member who recently visited Russia:

"I must say I agree with many of those who criticize Tennison's piece on Putin -- but very much oppose the notion that this list should be reserved for local Guild work. People who are offended by or oppose comments posted by NLG members shouldn't be able to shut down contentious discussions. It's easy enough to simply delete a thread that you consider 'irrelevant' -- although I would hope most Guild members would want to engage in discussion about the countries and leaders that our governing elites and the MSM are attacking in promotion of US imperial power (i.e. Russia, China, Venezuela, and Iran, for starters). The Guild is an organization of internationalists -- and not limited to local struggles."

And there was this qualified support: "I agree that we should be very suspect of Red-baiting news stories on general principle...while holding the nuance of resisting authoritarianism includes using a critical lens."

A democratic organization requires open discussion and voting on controversial positions. Until recently, since its founding in 1937, that occurred at the Guild's annual conventions. It was through such a process that the Guild improved its position on Palestine. I have no problem being a vocal minority in a democratic organization, but there must be debate for positions to be clear. I have tried, unsuccessfully, several times over the Trump years -- and the New McCarthyism -- to have such discussions. If there had been, I would have kept these issues internal to the organization. The squashing of debate was the catalyst for my airing dirty laundry, as well as its implications for the broad progressive community.

I was told that I will create "fissure" and "NLG folks will be on the defensive," (about being called out on their anti-Russia bias?) and an old comrade says he will not respect me if I expose the Guild's anti-Russia bias by pulling anonymous quotes from Guild members emails. As to ethics, my Russia delegation comrade says: " Your old comrade favors quashing the truth in order to present a good face. A false face, in fact. Is it ethical to do that? You are in the boat that many of us are struggling to stay afloat in. Going against popular opinion becomes a whole lot more than just a quaint quirk when the stakes are raised -- as they are right now with the election in view and the Dems seriously worried. It is getting really nasty out there."

Riva Enteen is a lifelong peace activist, social worker, lawyer, advocate for justice and editor of "Follow the Money," a collection of Pacifica Radio's Flashpoints Interviews.

[Nov 18, 2020] Do everybody notice how all dark clouds have gone and bad news have vanished, and rosy peacefully sunny days are ahead of us based on daily coming good news, ever since Biden was elected by all the dead voters.

Highly recommended!
Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kooshy , Nov 18 2020 20:58 utc | 20

The amount of BS propaganda levels against the American by MSM is incredible and unprecedented ever since I have lived here for over 48 years. Do everybody notice how all dark clouds have gone and bad news have vanished, and rosy peacefully sunny days are ahead of us based on daily coming good news, ever since Biden was elected by all the dead voters.

We found out two very viable working vaccines, more people wearing mask and social distance. Financial crises are over. We sent our own rocket to space station. We successfully intercepted ICBMs, etc.etc. So we should learn, everything now is going good , we should put our differences away, come together in a peaceful way and all help to transfer power peacefully to Biden like good citizens our funding fathers (fogers) wanted us to be.

[Nov 18, 2020] The ghost of Soviet Politburo in the US State Department

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Paul Damascene , Nov 18 2020 19:53 utc | 3

The recommendations of the State Department paper listed by Axios are not practical steps but pure ideology:

The blueprint: The paper lays out "ten tasks" for the U.S. to accomplish.

  1. Promoting constitutional government and civil society at home.
  2. Maintaining the world's strongest military.
  3. Fortifying the rules-based international order.
  4. Reevaluating its alliance system.
  5. Strengthening its alliance system and creating new international organizations to promote democracy and human rights.
  6. Cooperating with China when possible and constraining Beijing when appropriate.
  7. Educating Americans about the China challenge.
  8. Train a new generation of public servants who understand great-power competition with China.
  9. Reforming the U.S. education system to help students understand the responsibility of citizenship in a complex information age.
  10. Championing the principles of freedom in word and in deed.

Note especially the points 7 to 10.

They have nothing to do with China. They call for domestic propaganda, more domestic propaganda and even more domestic propaganda.

Compare with Kennan characterization of Soviets in 1946:

Kennan described dealing with Soviet Communism as "undoubtedly greatest task our diplomacy has ever faced and probably greatest it will ever have to face". In the first two sections, he posited concepts that became the foundation of American Cold War policy:
  • The Soviets perceived themselves at perpetual war with capitalism;
  • The Soviets viewed left-wing, but non-communist, groups in other countries as an even worse enemy of itself than the capitalist ones;
  • The Soviets would use controllable Marxists in the capitalist world as allies;
  • Soviet aggression was fundamentally not aligned with the views of the Russian people or with economic reality, but rooted in historic Russian nationalism and neurosis ;
  • The Soviet government 's structure inhibited objective or accurate pictures of internal and external reality.

b's 5 bullet points covering Keenan presumptions lends itself to substitution of Soviet / communism w/ Global Corporatist Oligarchy ... not aligned with wishes of citizenry, not democratic, not aligned with reality, etc.


Bemildred , Nov 18 2020 20:09 utc | 10

I do agree that Kennan's "long telegram" was misconstrued by the NatSec loons of the time to justify what they wanted to do. But that is no surprise, that is how US politics works. It's has always been a racket.

vk , Nov 18 2020 21:09 utc | 21

@ Posted by: Paco | Nov 18 2020 20:35 utc | 15

I don't know. The language Kennan used is too vague to make any specific conclusions.

The center-left certainly hated the USSR more than they hated capitalism. Indeed, it was the intellectuals from the center-left - not the right - who created the term "totalitarianism" as we know today.

[Nov 18, 2020] 77th Brigade revisited - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Nov 18, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"The personnel of 77 th Brigade is not that of your typical military unit.

Soldiers in the 77th Brigade, which was formed in 2015, are based in Berkshire and spend their time producing video and audio content, using data to understand how the public receives different messages, and creating "attitude and sentiment awareness" from large sets of social media data

One of their most infamous members is Gordon MacMillan, a Senior Twitter executive. He joined the social media company's UK office in 2013, and has for several years also served with the 77th Brigade, a unit formed in 2015 to develop "non-lethal" ways of waging war.

The 77th Brigade uses social media platforms such as Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, as well as podcasts, data analysis and audience research to conduct what the head of the UK military, General Nick Carter, describes as "information warfare".

Carter says the 77th Brigade is giving the British military "the capability to compete in the war of narratives at the tactical level" and to shape perceptions of conflict. Some soldiers who have served with the unit say they have been engaged in operations intended to change the behaviour of target audiences.

What exactly MacMillan is doing with the unit is difficult to determine, however: he has declined to answer any questions about his role, as has Twitter and the UK's Ministry of Defence (MoD).

Twitter would say only that "we actively encourage all our employees t o pursue external interests". The MoD said that the 77th Brigade had no relationship with Twitter, other than using it for communication.

The current training regime of the soldiers is unclear. Back in 2008, an annual report by 15 (UK) Psychological Operations Group showed that there was a "robust training" going on for all incoming troops, and current ones as well.

This involved internal, as well as external trainings."

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There is something vaguely ominous about all this. The US capability to do similar things is spread all over the government; CIA, USAID, Army Psyops, USIA, etc.

This UK thing is consolidated, has a lot of social media people and academics as reservists and has the typical clubbiness of British upper class institutions. I wonder what the tie looks like.

The White Helmet film company has to be connected to this as well as the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Interesting. pl

https://southfront.org/influence-and-outreach-the-uks-evolving-psyops-capability/


Deap , 18 November 2020 at 12:31 PM

Whisky ..Tango... Foxtrot?

james , 18 November 2020 at 01:12 PM

and as far as i am concerned the UK and USA are tied at the hip in all of this too... sad kettle of fish when your own country is propagandizing you.. 5 eyes is like the blind leading the blind at this point...

akaPatience , 18 November 2020 at 01:26 PM

Great. More sources of gaslighting and censorship. Just what's needed to advance authoritarianism and thwart democracy.

I read some thought-provoking comments somewhere yesterday that essentially said if leftists' ideas were truly popular, why do they have to resort to censorship, election fraud and other unscrupulous means?

The Twisted Genius , 18 November 2020 at 01:48 PM

So we've come full circle to the subject of the article I posted damned near exactly four years ago. That one got a lot of people's panties in a twist. Propaganda. Information operations. The theory of reflexive control. We all do it. Rather than using pamphlets and loudspeakers, we now use the internet and social media. The difference lies in the speed and spread of these "dark arts" in the world today. That and the complete obliteration of the line between tactical and strategic in this field.

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2016/12/the-russian-concept-of-reflexive-control-ttg.html

English Outsider , 18 November 2020 at 03:21 PM

77 Brigade! I remember it well.

Used to be that little chat rooms would pop up on the internet run by employees of this or that organisation. I remember one run by a senior police officer that was devoted to the dubious doings of even more senior officers. That one got taken down suddenly when the doings spoken of got a bit too dubious.

I imagine that having spent the best part of his career feeling collars the blogging Inspector found an irate superior feeling his. The entire site, back numbers and all, disappeared in a flash and was never seen again.

Similarly a few years back I happened upon a chat room allegedly run by army personnel. At that time 77 Brigade was putting the word out that it was needing staff. The comments weren't enthusiastic. Housing tricky. Terrible commute. It'd be no more than "Three men and a Doris in a hut". And the comments then tailed off into a seemingly well-informed discussion about the local talent in the Aldershot area.

So well informed that, knowing how interested Army men are in that subject, I marked the site down as possibly genuine. Probably was genuine too, since that chat room disappeared in a flash as well.

So I took something of a proprietorial interest in 77 Brigade. Adopted it, one might say. When submitting comments to English sites on Brexit (Don't go there. Could be the saddest subject on the planet.) I was sometimes accused of being a troll for Brussels. Or of course for Putin. I would rebut all such suggestions by proudly announcing I was with 77 Brigade and the tea was dreadful. I remembered Doris, you see, and something told me that tea-making wasn't one of her strengths.

And now my draughty hut (I had imagined typewriters and bulky coding machines but that would surely be anachronistic) has morphed into just another part of the squalid world of information warfare. From Oxbridge and Dearlove and Halpern and the select souls in academia down through the media and the think tanks and right down to the scrubby little subsidised websites and the Bellingcats. Your article has substituted reality for my cosy little troll farm and I suppose I'll have to give my allegiance to the BND now or some such boring outfit.

Shame. Not something one would mention to SHMBO but I'd always got on well with Doris.

Cortes , 18 November 2020 at 04:08 PM

Sir,

"the typical clubbiness of British upper class institutions" reference made me wonder if the current Gordon MacMillan might not be a grandson of

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_MacMillan

and thus part of a service family over several generations.

I have heard suggestions that in "retirement" Sir Gordon MacMillan was encouraged to engage in gentlemanly lobbying on behalf of local, beleaguered Clyde shipbuilding yards when tenders for constructing new vessels were issued by HMG up to around 1980.

Effinghell , 18 November 2020 at 04:25 PM

It can be quite good sport finding their interactions, they have shall we say, a certain style. Some are good at spotting the tell tell signs, in such cases you will see 77 in the reply.

[Nov 18, 2020] Chinese reaction on Pompeo recent "talking points" about China, issued by State Department

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Nov 18 2020 20:12 utc | 13

Here's China's unofficial response via this Global Times editorial . I wish I could reproduce the art at the editorial's header as it's very spot-on:

"There is no new wording in the report, which can be seen as a collection of malicious remarks from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and other anti-China US politicians and senators. Right now, only a little more than 60 days are left for the current US administration. An official from the State Department explained that the report is not meant to constrain the next US administration. But the fact is the Department of State fears that the Biden administration will adjust US-China relations, and the release of the report is part of their efforts to consolidate the current extreme anti-China path.

"But most Chinese scholars who have read the report believe it is an insult to Kennan by labeling the report as Kennan-style. Kennan, then US charge d'affaires in Moscow, sent an 8,000-word telegram to the Department of State detailing his views on the Soviet Union. At least, there was no special political motive in Kennan's report. But the latest report is trying to leave a legacy for the extreme anti-China policy adopted by the Trump administration and fawning on Pompeo, which is evil in essence .

"The impulsive and capricious governing style of Donald Trump leaves sufficient room for politicians like Pompeo to give free play to their ambitions. The Department of State has become the governmental organ that has the most serious clashes with China, outperforming the CIA and the Department of Defense.

"Diplomats are supposed to be communicators, but Pompeo and his team have chilled the communication atmosphere with China. In the China direction, today's US Department of State can close its door.

"Surrounded by such deep hostility and prejudice toward China and the wild ambition of the secretary of state, how could the Department of State's Office of Policy Planning make out anything objective about China? Their observation ability, cautious attitude toward research, and sense of responsibility for history have been severely squeezed. They are just currying favor from their seniors and manipulating extreme paths, pretending to be 'thoughtful....'

"Chinese diplomatic and academic circles look down upon the Pompeo team, which lacks professionalism, and acts like a group of gangsters suddenly taking official positions. They not only have messed things up, but also hope to build their nonsense as legacy. Pompeo's choice of opportunists like Miles Yu as advisor in particular has increased Chinese people's doubts over the 'amateurism' and 'immorality' of the Pompeo team's China policy....

"The US' China policy is very much like 'drunk driving' internally while on the international stage it's like sailing against the current." [My Emphasis]

There's not much more to add aside for asking barflies to read the entire editorial.

[Nov 18, 2020] Pompeo besides being neocon and is a fanatic, crackpot 'Christian'

As any warmonger he is a fake Christian
Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
TominAZ , Nov 18 2020 19:54 utc | 5
Pompeo, if not shamed out of politics soon, will be as bad or worse than Trump, because besides being nuts is a fanatic, crackpot 'Christian'.

Dave , Nov 18 2020 19:56 utc | 6

7-10 each sound fine but given the record of recent US leaders I wouldn't expect them to be implemented with the good of mankind in mind.
karlof1 , Nov 18 2020 19:59 utc | 7
I posted this to the Biden thread, but it belongs here.

RT op/ed analysis of Pompeo's China containment policy plan, "The Elements of the China Challenge" :

"Although it is hardly atypical of the President Trump administration, the document is significant because it represents yet another attempt by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to immortalize his Cold War confrontation between the US and China, bind the succeeding administration to it and most strikingly, institutionalize anti-Beijing ideas into American bureaucracy.

"The push against China by the Trump White House is not designed to be a passing phase, but a permanent and defining change of direction, for which this entire term in office has sought to prepare. This document aims to be a blueprint for long-term ideological struggle and a series of aspirations for maintaining hegemony, an affirmation of priority and a statement that things cannot " go back to normal ". But it makes no guarantee that the US can ever adequately understand China, or that it will succeed in its aims.

"The reference to George F. Kennan in pitching this document is appealing given the historical parallels, but it is not an exact fit and this, in turn, helps shine a light on Pompeo's own ignorance of China. It might be described in one simple sentence: China is not the Soviet Union and the ideological stakes are not quite the same." [Emphasis Original]

While I'd agree that differences in ideology exist between China and the Outlaw US Empire, it is the Empire that's constructed upon and is living the Big Lie inherent within Neoliberalism, while China continues to perfect its already very efficient system of Collective Libertarianism through its revamped Democratic Centralism. The really big fundamental difference is that China has absolutely no need to lie to its people, whereas the exact opposite's true within the Neoliberal West. After a lengthy period of public input, the government meets and eventually publishes its 5-year plan of development, which is contained within an even larger plan that's also been devised with public input and once put together is also published for public consumption. And since 2010, all plans have existed within China's UN 2030 Development plan, which is also available to the public. In a great many respects. China is a more open society than the Outlaw US Empire. Why? Because it doesn't need to lie to its citizens because it fights against the corruption that provides the reason for such lies--China has no Financial Parasitism it must mask from its citizens whereas the Outlaw US Empire is drowning in a massive sea of corruption that is killing it. Clearly, Pompeo wants that to continue.

[Nov 18, 2020] NYT: the role of declaring the winner of a presidential election in the U.S. falls to the media

Nov 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

..the New York Times -- Pravda West -- in the run-up to the election informed the nation via Twitter that it would be the media that would call the winner of the 2020 election, even before the votes were counted, certified, and sent to the Electoral College.

"The role of declaring the winner of a presidential election in the U.S. falls to the media," the Democrat propaganda sheet masquerading as a newspaper proclaimed, falsely.

It later deleted the tweet and issued a sheepish "apology" for "referring imprecisely to the role of the news media. [It] projects winners and reports results; it does not declare the winner of the election."

[Nov 18, 2020] Dem peaceniks are now chickenhawks and Dem party a second War party: It has been fascinating to see both Republicans and Democrats denounce Trump on his Afghan withdrawal with NPR "experts" warning how dangerous a withdrawal would be

Nov 18, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
William Hunter Duncan 10 hours ago

It has been fascinating to see both Republicans and Democrats denounce Trump on this. NPR yesterday was in full-on war propagation mode, all of it's "experts" warning how dangerous a withdrawal would be. Nary a mention anywhere that we have been there for 19 years, more mocking Trump for "what he calls never-ending wars."

Like I told a liberal I know, recently. when he was complaining how Republicans were destroying Democracy - why so sour? You won, remember? Now take heart, the Democratic Party, major media and the Intelligence Community will be in sync restoring Democracy.

I wonder if we made it illegal for weapons/security contractors to trade their stock in the markets, if most of this full throated support for war amongst our elite would evaporate?

E.J. Smith William Hunter Duncan 5 hours ago

The interesting part is that the condemnation of Trump is coupled with "we're on the cusp of victory" talk. America has been on the cusp of victory in Afghanistan multiple times, it seems.

The Obama surge was prompted by General McChrystal's representations back in 2009 that the war was winnable with more troops. In excess of 100,000 troops by 2011 was not sufficient to achieve victory. The war then became an exercise in Afghan self-determination and honorable withdrawal, reminiscent of "Vietnamization." This has been going on for nine years with, by all accounts, the Taliban increasing its control of the country. There is no doubt that a final withdrawal of U.S. troops would be a repeat of Saigon 1975.

Interestingly, the war morphed from removing Al Qaeda, propping up the Kabul government, and defeating the Taliban, to being a protracted counter-narcotic operation. Given the feudalistic realities of Afghan society, creating a Taliban-free, central government controlled Afghanistan based upon western concepts is not a reality.

There is no doubt as to Afghanistan's strategic importance based upon its location and resources. At the very least, those who condemn Trump for wanting to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan can be honest about why we are still there, although it's not a mystery in geopolitical terms.

Loukas 8 hours ago

So, in Rubio's worldview Saigon would be better today if it were still occupied by American soldiers. This imperialistic gene has to be eradicated from within these Establishment armchair warriors. Our election of Donald Trump was a first raising of the hand to say..stop. Stop it. Your time is through.

And now, since Democrats have flipped from freedom-loving liberals to authoritarian leftists, they are united with the neo-con Republicans to keep imperialism alive and prospering. America will soon come to understand that they've made a huge blunder in replacing the one that has both the power and the will to turn us around. Only by electing more Donald J. Trumps will the fever finally be broken.

[Nov 18, 2020] If neoliberal resitance to Trump is considered left-wing, then Soviets were of right on target viewing them an even worse enemy, than the capitalists

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Paco , Nov 18 2020 20:35 utc | 15

The Soviets viewed left-wing, but non-communist, groups in other countries as an even worse enemy of itself than the capitalist ones

Well, if the resistance is considered left-wing the Soviets were not off target with that valuation.

VK, it would be interesting to know your opinion on that Soviet statement.

[Nov 18, 2020] Covid Is Increasing America's Lead Over China.

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

David , Nov 18 2020 21:55 utc | 33

The headline of a recent Bloomberg column by one Tyler Cowen is:

Covid Is Increasing America's Lead Over China .

Its remarkable only for its fervent nationalistic delusion. The claim that the US Covid-19 response demonstrates that the US can "tolerate casualties" is one of the most asinine statements I have ever read. All that it proves is that the US is shockingly incompetent. Incompetence is not generally viewed as a strength.

[Nov 18, 2020] It's so interesting how often people pretend to be ignorant when it is useful to them. I thought that was a specific American politicians trait

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Hoyeru , Nov 18 2020 19:52 utc | 2

it's so interesting when people pretend to be ignorant when it is useful to them. I thought that was a specific American trait. So let's give the answer to the author asking the question:

Once the Americans are indoctrinated into hating China, they will be willing to go to war with China and will be willing to accept what the government will do in the name of "fighting China".

Same how the Americans were indoctrinated into hating Soviet Union and Communism during the 50s and 60s and 70s.

The government then can throw as much money into the military in the name of "fighting China" and the Americans will be fine with it.

[Nov 18, 2020] Mitt Romney, Who Avoided Military Service During Vietnam, Says 20 Years In Afghanistan Isn't Long Enough

Nov 18, 2020 | thefederalist.com

Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah thinks that the U.S. needs to keep troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, stating that even after 20 years of a military presence there, "conditions for withdrawal have not been met."

"The decision to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, and potentially elsewhere should not be based on a U.S. political calendar," Romney said in a statement. "The Administration has yet to explain why reducing troops in Afghanistan -- where conditions for withdrawal have not been met -- is a wise decision for our national security interests in the region."

[Nov 18, 2020] I love it when they label things that are obvious to anyone with a brain, as conspiracy theories

Nov 18, 2020 | www.rt.com

MarleyChusonda 8 hours ago 17 Nov, 2020 01:11 PM

I love it when they label things that are obvious to anyone with a brain, as conspiracy theories.

The chances of biden (a man who can hardly form a coherent sentence without a teleprompter) even seeing out half his term, are unlikely.

Cornwhole 8 hours ago 17 Nov, 2020 01:10 PM
Optimist: the glass is half full.. Pessimist: the glass is half empty.. Feminist: the glass is full of sexual harassment

[Nov 18, 2020] Poll- 52% of Republicans Believe Trump 'Rightfully Won' the Election

Nov 18, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

A slight majority of Republicans believe that President Trump "rightfully won" the presidential election two weeks ago, a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released Wednesday found.

The survey, taken November 13-17 among 1,346 U.S. respondents, found 73 percent expressing the belief that Joe Biden (D) won the election, compared to five percent who chose Trump. However, 53 percent of Republicans, specifically, believe Trump "rightfully won," while less than a third, 29 percent, said the same for the former vice president:

According to Reuters, an even greater majority of Republicans expressed concern that the election was, in fact, "rigged":

Asked why, Republicans were much more concerned than others that state vote counters had tipped the result toward Biden: 68% of Republicans said they were concerned that the election was "rigged," while only 16% of Democrats and one-third of independents were similarly worried.

[email protected] an hour ago • edited

Sooo, 48% of Republicans think the steal was legitimate?... hey gee [email protected] an hour ago

Any election using the Dominion electronic voter correction facility should be declared null and void QuidPro Joe Buddy McKenzie 13 minutes ago

We all know Reuters is at least 20 points off! SC [email protected] an hour ago

BB is in on the steal.. Im sure their sponsors or investors dictated them to ignore the steal.. just another 'conservative' betrayal. DreamKilla2.0 [email protected] 40 minutes ago

It's a Reuters poll -- definitely fake Incurablewound [email protected] 38 minutes ago

Social media censorship of anything that questions party line.
Protests are met with police oppression.
We are told when & where we can go & how many we can see.
Plans to prove health & vaccine status.
A reset no one voted for.
Is this enough for everyone to say NO? #NoGreatReset

4 ReplyShare › Avatar Olde_Brooklyn_Lantern [email protected] 42 minutes ago • edited

Using polls as proof of anything? After 2016 AND 2020!??? Absurd.
IndependentWhoShouldntBeBanned
Olde_Brooklyn_Lantern 30 minutes ago • edited

Olde, sadly it probably exceeds 52% bc we know some rightwing dishonesty to pollsters is still a big prob that needs fixing!! For how to correct these 52+ %, my idea is online training for a few things like mask use obs, and a sensitivity/civilty course, and also training could cover how elections are secure and legit. It wouldn't be totally mandatory, but anyone passing the quiz after it could receive rewards, maybe corporations would donate stuff?? And or maybe anyone whose social media accounts were suspended could have them restored provisionally???!? We need to unify the country somehow!!

[Nov 18, 2020] As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA

NOVEMBER 12, 2020
Notable quotes:
"... Democracy cannot work in America because the money of the elite prevails. American democracy is organized in order to prevent the people from having a voice. A political campaign is expensive. The money for candidates comes from interest groups, such as defense contractors, Wall Street, the pharmaceutical industry, the Israel Lobby. Consequently, the winning candidate is indebted to his funders, and these are the people whom he serves. ..."
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PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS • • 1,700 WORDS • 310 COMMENTS 48 NEWREPLY

Paul Craig Roberts' Interview with the European magazine Zur Zeit ( In This Time ):

https://zurzeit.at/index.php/die-demokraten-haben-die-praesidentenwahl-gestohlen/

.... Digital technology has also made it easy to alter vote counts. US Air Force General Thomas McInerney is familiar with this technology. He says it was developed by the National Security Agency in order to interfere in foreign elections, but now is in the hands of the CIA and was used to defeat Trump. Trump is considered to be an enemy of the military/security complex because of his wish to normalize relations with Russia, thus taking away the enemy that justifies the CIA's budget and power.

... ... ...

Mainstream media in Europe claim, that Trump had "divided" the United States. But isn`t it actually the other way around, that his opponents have divided the country?

As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism , the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies. Russiagate was a CIA/FBI successful effort to block Trump from reducing tensions with Russia. In 1961 in his last address to the American people President Dwight Eisenhower warned that the growing power of the military/industrial complex was a threat to American democracy. We ignored his warning and now have security agencies more powerful than the President.

The military/security complex favors the disunity that the Democrat Party and media have fostered with their ideology of Identity Politics. Identity politics replaced Marxist class war with race and gender war. White people, and especially white heterosexual males, are the new oppressor class. This ideology causes race and gender disunity and prevents any unified opposition to the security agencies ability to impose its agendas by controlling explanations. Opposition to Trump cemented the alliance between Democrats, media, and the Deep State.

... ... ...

The introduction of a report of the Heritage Foundation states that "the United States has a long and unfortunate history of election fraud". Are the 2020 presidential elections another inglorious chapter in this long history?

This time the fraud is not local as in the past. It is the result of a well organized national effort to get rid of a president that the Establishment does not accept.

Somehow you get the impression that in the USA – as in many European countries democracy is just a facade – or am I wrong?

You are correct. Trump is the first non-establishment president who became President without being vetted by the Establishment since Ronald Reagan. Trump was able to be elected only because the Establishment thought he had no chance and took no measures to prevent his election. A number of studies have concluded that in the US the people, despite democracy and voting, have zero input into public policy.

Democracy cannot work in America because the money of the elite prevails. American democracy is organized in order to prevent the people from having a voice. A political campaign is expensive. The money for candidates comes from interest groups, such as defense contractors, Wall Street, the pharmaceutical industry, the Israel Lobby. Consequently, the winning candidate is indebted to his funders, and these are the people whom he serves.

European mainstream media are portraying Biden as a luminous figure. Should Biden become president, what can be expected in terms of foreign and security policy, especially in regard to China, Russia and the Middle East? I mean, the deep state and the military-industrial complex remain surely nearly unchanged.

...The military/security complex needs enemies for its power and profit and will be certain to retain the list of desirable foreign enemies -- Russia, Iran, China, and any independent-inclined country in Latin America. Being at war is also a way of distracting the people of the war against their liberties.

What the military/security complex might not appreciate is that among its Democrat allies there are some, such as Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who are ideological revolutionaries...

[Nov 18, 2020] What is fair and what is not

Nov 18, 2020 | www.unz.com

Priss Factor , says: Website November 18, 2020 at 6:37 am GMT • 8.9 hours ago

If most Zionists are 'liberal', 'anti-racist', and for equal justice, how come they don't insist to Americans, "Hey, stop favoring Zionist Israel over Palestinians and Iran. That is 'racist' and unfair. Equal treatment for all!"

Why isn't that?

Trinity , says: November 18, 2020 at 2:20 pm GMT • 1.2 hours ago

Was this a Mossad operation? I mean we always hear about, Russia, Russia, Russia. I am sure the media will be letting us know the scoop. haha.

[Nov 18, 2020] Trump is still crazy after all these years but don't look for any signs of sanity in the incoming Administration either.

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michaelj72 , Nov 17 2020 22:51 utc | 71

still crazy after all these years.

and don't look for any sanity in the incoming Administration either, especially from mass murderers in pumps such as Michele Flournoy and Susan Rice (and where is Samantha Power these days?)

https://news.antiwar.com/2020/11/16/nyt-president-trump-was-talked-out-of-attacking-iran/

According to The New York Times, President Trump asked his advisors if he had options to attack Iran's main nuclear site but was talked out of pulling the trigger. Four anonymous officials told the Times that Trump discussed the options at a meeting in the Oval Office on Thursday......

[Nov 18, 2020] On the composition of Biden foreign policy team: Vampires, werewolfs, ghouls, goblins... How could that possibly go wrong?

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Josh , Nov 17 2020 22:41 utc | 69

'Joe Biden's Foreign Policy Team',

Vampires, werewolfs, ghouls, goblins, cross dressers, trannies,...

How could that possibly go wrong?....
O.o

[Nov 18, 2020] The Interpretation of (Left) Dreams by Gilad Atzmon

The problem with this essay is that there is Left in the USA, only various shades of Right :-). And "identity politics" is used as a wedge to split the working class and make is less dangerous for financial oligarchy.
Nov 18, 2020 | www.unz.com

Traditional Left Ideology sets out a vision of how the world 'ought to be.' The Left's view can be summed up as the belief that social justice is the primary requirement for improving the world, and that this better future entails the pursuit of equality in various forms. The Left ideologist believes that it is both ethical and moral to attempt to approach equality in terms of civil rights and material wealth.

But if the Left focuses on 'what could be,' the Right focuses on 'what is.' If the Left operates where people 'could be,' the Right operates where people 'are' or at least, where they believe themselves to be. The Right does not aim to change human social reality...

Left ideology, accordingly, is shaped like a 'dream.' Aiming for what 'ought to be' rather than 'what is' induces a level of utopian illusory detachment and depicts a phantasmal egalitarian world often removed from our abusive, oppressive and doomed reality. In this phantasmic future, people will just drift away from greed and gluttony, they will work less and learn to share, even to share that which they may not possess to start with.

This imaginary 'dream' helps explain why the (Western) Left's ideology rarely appealed to the struggling classes; the masses, consumed by the pursuit of bread and butter, were hardly going to be interested in utopian 'dreams' or futuristic social experiments. Bitten by the daily struggle and chased by existence, working people have never really subscribed to 'the revolution,' usually because they were just too busy working. This perhaps explains why so often it was the middle-class and bourgeois agitators who became revolutionary icons. It was they who had access to that little bit extra to fund their revolutionary adventures.

The 'Left dream' is certainly appealing, perhaps a bit too appealing. Social justice, equality and even revolution may really be nothing but the addictive rush of effecting change and this is perhaps why hard-core Leftist agitators often find it impossible to wake from their social fantasy of transformation. They simply refuse to admit that reality has slipped from their grasp, preferring to remain in their cozy phantasmal and delusional universe, shielded by ghetto walls built from archaic terminology and political correctness.

In fact, the more appealing and convincing the revolutionary fantasy is, the less its supporters are willing to be awaken by reality....

... ... ...

... political Left has failed on so many fronts: it was daydreaming when the service economy was introduced, and it did not awaken when production and manufacturing were eviscerated. It yawned when it should have combated corporate culture, big money and its worship, and it dozed when higher education became a luxury. The Left was certainly snoring noisily when, one after the other, its institutions were conquered by 'New Left' Identitarian politics.

It is most important to point at the contemporary American so-called 'Left' that was deeply asleep when the American working classes drifted away to the Republican party. The American Left was so deeply consumed by its 'revolutionary fantasy' that it didn't notice the embarrassing fact that an abrasive multi-billionaire real estate tycoon morphed into a populist revolutionary icon for hard-working people. The American Left was so thrilled by its self-worship that it pretended not to see that its entire operation was practically sustained by Wall Street tycoons and globalists of the worst type. The American Left has become a controlled opposition apparatus. It practically went to bed with the bitterest enemies of peace and justice let alone anything that resembles 'social justice' and human harmony.

No Friend Of The Devil , says: November 16, 2020 at 2:13 am GMT • 2.6 days ago

This article was obviously composed by someone on the right, while dreaming. Dreaming that the right are realists, really? Where is the$21 trillion from the Pentagon? Where was the right when the entire nation was under house arrest and falsely imprisoned? Were they dreaming that people would believe that people would believe the health scare scamdemic was responsible for a banana republic economy that uses fraud as a business model under those who claim to be conservative, but still somehow always manage to increase the national debt even more than the Democrats? Were they believing that living under false arrest in house arrest is the conservative American way of life? ...

[Nov 18, 2020] Can't Americans even do their own fraud anymore?

Nov 18, 2020 | www.unz.com

Dumbo , says: November 18, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT • 2.1 hours ago

@Verymuchalive

According to that link, at least part of the votes were counted using the software of a Spanish company with servers in Germany, and based on the votes of a machine made in China and sold by a Canadian company.

Can't Americans even do their own fraud anymore?

[Nov 18, 2020] Mark Twain said it's easy to con someone, but much harder to convince them they'v been conned.

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Mark2 , Nov 17 2020 21:51 utc | 58

Mark Twain said it's easy to con someone, but much harder to convince them they'v been conned. Stockholm syndrome I suppose.

[Nov 18, 2020] Judging by actions, Trump should be seen as a champion of racial equality in comparison to Biden.

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William Gruff , Nov 17 2020 20:37 utc | 38

Why does anyone think that the guy who authored the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act , which led to the mass incarceration of Black American men "super predators" , the privatization of prisons, and the ramping up of the "school-to-prison pipeline , is any kind of godsend for Black Americans?

Judging by actions, Trump should be seen as a champion of racial equality in comparison to Biden.

[Nov 17, 2020] Israel's Power is Unlimited by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... There is some pushback in Washington to Israeli dominance, but not much. Recent senior Pentagon appointee Colonel Douglas Macgregor famously has pointed out that many American politicians get "very, very rich" through their support of Israel even though it means the United States being dragged into new wars. ..."
Nov 17, 2020 | www.unz.com

Even though there was virtually no debate on foreign policy during the recent presidential campaign, there has been considerable discussion of what President Joe Biden's national security team might look like. The general consensus is that the top levels of the government will be largely drawn from officials who previously served in the Obama administration and who are likely to be hawkish. There has also been, inevitably, some discussion of how the new administration, if it is confirmed, will deal with Israel and the Middle East in general.

Israelis would have preferred a victory by Donald Trump as they clearly understand that he was and still is willing to defer to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on nearly all issues. Indeed, that process is ongoing even though Trump might only have about nine more weeks remaining in office. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is reportedly preparing to sanction several international human rights organizations as anti-Semitic due to the fact that they criticize Israel's brutality on the West Bank and its illegal settlement policies. The White House is also prepared to free convicted but paroled Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard from travel restrictions so he can move to Israel, where he is regarded as a hero. Pollard was the most damaging spy in U.S. history and any mitigation of his sentence has been opposed by both the Pentagon, where he worked, and also by the intelligence community.

Finally, it is widely believed that before the end of the year Trump will declare that the United States accepts the legitimacy of Israeli intentions to declare annexation of nearly all the Palestinian West Bank. The White House will actually encourage such an initiative reportedly "to sow hostility between Israel and the Biden administration." One should note that none of the pro-Israeli measures that are likely to come out of the White House enhance U.S. security in any way and they also do nothing particularly to benefit Trump's campaign to be re-elected through legal challenges.

If Biden does succeed in becoming president, the special place that Israel occupies in the centers of American power are unlikely to be disturbed , which is why Netanyahu was quick off the mark in congratulating the possible new chief executive. Biden has proudly declared himself to be a "Zionist" and his running mate Kamala Harris has been a featured speaker at the annual gatherings of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington. Both are strongly supportive of the "special relationship" with the Israel and will make no effort to compromise America's apparent commitment to protect and nourish the Jewish state.

Though Israel is central to how the United States conducts its foreign policy, the country was invisible in the debates and other discussions that took place among candidates during the recent campaign. American voters were therefore given the choice of one government that panders to Israel at the expense of U.S. security or another party that does exactly the same thing. To be sure, Biden did state that he would work to reinstate the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) relating to Iran's nuclear program, which was canceled by Trump. But he also indicated that it would require some amendment, meaning that the Iranians would have to include their missile program in the monitoring while also abandoning their alleged propensity to "interfere" in the Middle East region. The Iranian government has already indicated that additional conditions are unacceptable, so the deal is dead in the water. Israel has also privately and publicly objected to any new arrangement and has already declared that it would "save the option" of working through the Republican Senate to thwart any attempts by the Biden Administration to change things.

That Israel would blatantly and openly interfere in the deliberations of Congress raises some serious questions which the mainstream media predictably is not addressing. Jewish power in America is for real and it is something that some Jews are not shy about discussing among themselves. Jewish power is unique in terms of how it functions. If you're an American ( or British ) politician, you very quickly are made to appreciate that Israel owns you and nearly all of your colleagues. Indeed, the process begins in the U.S. even before your election when the little man from AIPAC shows up with the check list that he wants you to sign off on. If you behave per instructions your career path will be smooth, and you will benefit from your understanding that everything happening in Washington that is remotely connected to the interests of the state of Israel is to be determined by the Jewish state alone, not by the U.S. Congress or White House.

And, here is the tricky part, even while you are energetically kowtowing to Netanyahu, you must strenuously deny that there is Jewish power at work if anyone ever asks you about it. You behave in that fashion because you know that your pleasant life will be destroyed, painfully, if you fail to deny the existence of an Israel Lobby or the Jewish power that supports it.

It is a bold assertion, but there is plenty of evidence to support how that power is exerted and what the consequences are. Senators William Fulbright and Chuck Percy and Congressmen Paul Findlay, Pete McCloskey and Cynthia McKinney have all experienced the wrath of the Lobby and voted out of office. Currently Reverend Raphael Warnock, who is running against Georgia Loeffler for a senate seat in Georgia demonstrates exactly how candidates are convinced to stand on their heads by the Israel Lobby. Warnock was a strong supporter of Palestinian rights and a critic of Israeli brutality. He said as recently as 2018 that the Israelis were shooting civilians and condemned the military occupation and settlement construction on the Palestinian West Bank, which he compared to apartheid South Africa. Now that he is running for the Senate, he is saying that he is opposed to the Boycotts, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement due to what he calls the movement's "anti-Semitic overtones." He also supports continued military assistance for Israel and believes that Iran is in pursuit of a nuclear weapon, both of which are critical issues being promoted by the Zionist lobby.

There is some pushback in Washington to Israeli dominance, but not much. Recent senior Pentagon appointee Colonel Douglas Macgregor famously has pointed out that many American politicians get "very, very rich" through their support of Israel even though it means the United States being dragged into new wars. Just how Israel gains control of the U.S. political process is illustrated by the devastating insider tale of how the Obama Administration's feeble attempts to do the right thing in the Middle East were derailed by American Jews in Congress, the media, party donors and from inside the White House itself. The story is of particularly interest as the Biden Administration will no doubt suffer the same fate if it seeks to reject or challenge Israel's ability to manipulate and virtually control key aspects of U.S. foreign policy.

The account of Barack Obama's struggle with Israel and the Israeli Lobby comes from a recently published memoir written by a former foreign policy adviser Ben Rhodes. It is entitled The World As It Is , and it is extremely candid about how Jewish power was able to limit the foreign policy options of a popular sitting president. Rhodes recounts, for example, how Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel once nicknamed him "Hamas" after he dared to speak up for Palestinian human rights, angrily shouting at him "Hamas over here is going to make it impossible for my kid to have his fucking bar mitzvah in Israel."

Rhodes cites numerous instances where Obama was forced to back down when confronted by Israel and its supporters in the U.S. as well as within the Democratic Party. On several occasions, Netanyahu lecture the U.S. president as if he were an errant schoolboy. And Obama just had to take it. Rhodes sums up the situation as follows: "In Washington, where support for Israel is an imperative for members of Congress, there was a natural deference to the views of the Israeli government on issues related to Iran, and Netanyahu was unfailingly confrontational, casting himself as an Israeli Churchill . AIPAC and other organizations exist to make sure that the views of the Israeli government are effectively disseminated and opposing views discredited in Washington, and this dynamic was a permanent part of the landscape of the Obama presidency."

And, returning to the persistent denial of Jewish power even existing when it is running full speed and relentlessly, Rhodes notes the essential dishonesty of the Israel Lobby as it operates in Washington: "Even to acknowledge the fact that AIPAC was spending tens of millions to defeat the Iran deal [JCPOA] was anti-Semitic. To observe that the same people who supported the war in Iraq also opposed the Iran deal was similarly off limits. It was an offensive way for people to avoid accountability for their own positions."

Many Americans long to live in a country that is at peace with the world and respectful of the sovereignty of foreign nations. Alas, as long as Israeli interests driven by overwhelming Jewish power in the United States continue to corrupt our institutions that just will not be possible. It is time for all Americans, including Jews, to accept that Israel is a foreign country that must make its own decisions and thereby suffer the consequences. The United States does not exist to bail Israel out or to provide cover for its bad behavior. The so-called "special relationship" must end and the U.S. must deal with the Israelis as they would with any other country based on America's own self-interests. Those interests definitely do not include funding the Israeli war machine, assassinating foreign leaders, or attacking a non-threatening Iran while continuing an illegal occupation of Syria.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:24 am GMT • 15.5 hours ago

USA is dead, long live USA. We now officially live in JUSA, the New Weimar Republic. Actually we have been for almost 70 years, since the Cultural Revolution. America is no longer a Christian nation but a Jew nation, with all that that entails – greed, unscrupulousness, end justifies means, intolerance for dissent, mass deception, hypocrisy, over sensitivity, pleasure seeking, sexual deviance, narcissism, vengeful and punitive.

Jews now basically control all institutions of import in this country, from Wall Street to Hollywood, DC to Silicon Valley, and everywhere in between, the media, academia, judiciary, deep state including all of DOJ and the State department. Using their control of Big Tech, they can censor and suppress all dissent. Websites that try to go their own way like Alex Jones or Gab.com have trouble monetizing themselves and face constant media and left wing harrassment.

They control both msm and the "conservative" media like WSJ, FoxNews, Breitbart, Zerohedge, National Review all are just controlled opposition. No matter who is in the white house, we get the same things: Zionism, globalism, corporatism, endless wars, endless immigration.

How did they do it? Not just by controlling banks and profiting off wars that they instigated, but by selling sin. Jews own the entire sin industry. From the opium trade to the slave trade, tobacco trade, Bootlegging, JUUL, Opiod, marijuana, alcohol, Victoria's Secret, casinos and brothels in Vegas, HBO soft porn to hardcore porn, all are owned by Jews. Sin is an industry where supply creates demand, not the other way around. Using their lawyers, they first make it all legal, then make it fashionable. As Andrew Joyce so aptly put, "sordid commercial exploitation of vice", that is what Jews excel in.

The sin industry is a trillion dollar industry, and many of those trillions have been siphoned off to Israel, along with all the money from Wall Street swindling and the weapons industry. We are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from the rest of the world to Israel.

China-Russia-Iran may provide the world with an alternative for the future, if they can hold off this Jewish scorch, but the West is done for. We have nothing but decline, which will be hastened by Biden/Harris. Someone needs to keep reminding the Chinese it was a Jew David Sassoon who ran the opium trade and forced the two opium wars on them. Never forget, never surrender!

Lot , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:33 am GMT • 15.4 hours ago

" Jewish power in America is for real "

It's a sort of sexual charisma: all three of Joe's kids are married into the tribe, as is the VP. Though the crackhead kid's tatted up wife Melissa Cohen definitely isn't orthodox, though she's hot enough I'd forgive her!

"to accept that Israel is a foreign country"

Nah, it's like Canada, an America Jr. If the people disagreed, they'd have elected Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney, etc.

Aspies aren't good with contradictions and ambiguity. Israel is both ours and sovereign, foreign and domestic. Most people get it though.

Anon [227] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:53 am GMT • 15.0 hours ago

Funny that BLM and antifa seem to have expressed no opinion on foreign policy isn't it?

I guess those are "unapproved games" in Revilo Oliver's words.

Tdstype2 , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:35 am GMT • 14.3 hours ago

Yo, the Great US of A, how about just do this one thing – fixed your problem of Israeli infestation in your institutions of power, instead of running around with a dynamite up you behind looking to fix other people's hemorrhoids all over the world

Colin Wright , says: Website November 17, 2020 at 7:04 am GMT • 13.9 hours ago

A piece discussing the roles played by Israel and the US in the coup in Egypt would be useful.

anonymous [112] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:22 am GMT • 13.6 hours ago

Based on what you write, it seems that only a smart, independent minded black politician as president would have any chance to stand up a bit to the Israeli lobby. The black politician does not have white guilt and is less self conscious of accusations of antisemitism. Obama was one of the few people who could fit the bill. Corey Booker is a potential black president meeting the description who could give it the college try and 25% stand up to the Israel lobby once in office. You should write more appreciatively of Barack Obama. Yeah, more BLM is a bad trade off that comes with a black president but life is always a package deal.

tiredofitall , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:47 am GMT • 13.1 hours ago

"Bibi the Backstabber" – Gee, I thought he and Trump were pals but he seemed pretty quick to acknowledge a Biden win BEFORE it has even been officially on the record. Regardless of who you want as figurehead of the USA, that seemed like a pretty crappy move but then again, we're talking about a snake. If Trump did end up "winning" after all the recounts and possible court rulings, do you think Trump would welcome "Bibi the Backstabber" back? "Fool me once " What a total farce this election and our Jew infested country is. Sad.

Ralph B. Seymour , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:11 am GMT • 12.7 hours ago

Jews didn't immigrate here in any number until the late 19th century. So it didn't take long for them to take it over completely.

But it's not enough for them to run everything. Now they are trying to perfect an outright slave plantation.

Clay Alexander , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:49 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago

OK move along nothing to see here, just another description of Jewish subversion 101 which has been going on for time immemorial. I think by now we should all know who's been behind every war, famine, economic collapse etc. The occidental countries have the remaining 11.5% of Whites left on the planet, it appears we are going to lose, so please try and enjoy what little time is left just don't forget to put your mask on.

Dr. Charles Fhandrich , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:51 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago

Joe Biden, a mediocre intellect and a corrupt long time D.C. insider as president of the U.S., running with a shrill shrew as vice president is supposed to be a positive development for the citizens of the U.S.? It's too funny. She was the first democrat to pull out of the running in the primaries and I believe Biden was second. Harris also suggested Biden is a racist, lol. It's too surreal to believe that this has happened. Thinking of Biden in charge, is like the feeling that the cave is going to collapse with you in it, vs. seeing the light at the end of the tunnel with President Trump. Oh well, ces't la vie

Achilles Wannabe , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:55 am GMT • 12.0 hours ago
@anon

Well said Anon. There is a lesson here. It is one which any dog or cat knows but Jewish social science has denied us: Do not let the parasite into the nest. A couple of million Ashkenazim were admitted to this country between 1880 and 1920. The rest is history – a history increasingly determined by THEM.

How this happened is a story I wish our white internet historians would tell us before the lights are shut off

Ray Caruso , says: November 17, 2020 at 9:22 am GMT • 11.6 hours ago

Israel is a leech. Liberalism in all its aspects, including racial egalitarianism, feminism, homosexualism, and democracy is a cancer that has spread from head to toe in the body of the nation. A leech won't kill you, but widespread cancer certainly will. What folly it is to focus so much attention on the little parasite outside while ignoring the massive malignancy inside.

Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 9:29 am GMT • 11.4 hours ago

Regarding the photo accompanying this article: it is always beyond disconcerting to see Israel's satanic pentagram parked next to the American flag, it evinces the kind of sickening aplomb you would find in the image of a gorilla sodomizing a doe.

I appreciate Giraldi's incisive analysis. No one writes better about Israel's parasitic destruction of the US.

geokat62 , says: November 17, 2020 at 9:51 am GMT • 11.1 hours ago
@anon

Someone needs to keep reminding the Chinese it was a Jew David Sassoon who ran the opium trade and forced the two opium wars on them

This, of course, is in the Chinese ledger, but offsetting it is the more recent massive transfer of manufacturing jobs, technology, engineering services and other indirect benefits that derived from the "great offshoring" that first occurred in the late 70s. The apparatchiks of the CCP know who was responsible for arranging this unprecedented largesse and will consequently be reluctant to bite the hand that feeds them.

geokat62 , says: November 17, 2020 at 9:54 am GMT • 11.0 hours ago

The so-called "special relationship" must end

This should be demanded by every freedom-loving American.

Moi , says: November 17, 2020 at 10:09 am GMT • 10.8 hours ago
@anon

One can only conclude that American Christians relish being Jews' bitch. And here's the dumbest thing that the otherwise astute P. Giraldi has said: "Many Americans long to live in a country that is at peace with the world and respectful of the sovereignty of foreign nations." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS: Phil, it's over for American. All hail, China!

RoatanBill , says: November 17, 2020 at 10:12 am GMT • 10.7 hours ago

All foreign aid should be turned off. Disaster relief should be looked at on a case by case basis, but that just allows the most corrupt countries to rely on it to come to the rescue when disaster strikes. I'd even prevent that.

Is there a single member of Congress with the intestinal fortitude to propose this? I doubt it. The selctions process has installed people so beholden to the current power structure that no one would dare put up a bill to stop foreign aid.

Doesn't that show that the US doesn't have a Federal Government, but does have a Federal Mafia?

Wizard of Oz , says: November 17, 2020 at 10:28 am GMT • 10.5 hours ago

It is time perhaps for this (in your words)

The so-called "special relationship" must end and the U.S. must deal with the Israelis as they would with any other country based on America's own self-interests.

But, falling back on realism, what is second best for Americans,and *much* more likely to be achieved?

As a preliminary sketch it is probably wrong to blame much of the disapointments and tribulations of the least prosperous 80 per cent of Americans on Israel, even if the cost of the Iraq war is included. Such a small country can eat only so much of America's breakfast. It is big business's complicity in the rise of China's economy at the expense of American workers and the open borders to cheap labour that counts for much more damage (I believe, though open to refutation).

So, what is a more likely acceptable outcome than your ideal prescription? I suggest that more Balkanising of the ME to eliminate threats to Israel would be part of it.That is happening already with the Saudis and Gulf States falling i to line. It seems hard to see why Israel should be unhappy about Russia remaining in Syria giving security to the Assad régime. How Iran can be dealt with isn't clear but it seems unlikely that Russia or China would be interested in an expensive effort to prevent the overthrow of the Iranian theocrats. It would suit both well enough that the ME was made up mostly of small countries mostly with oil or gas to sell and without much of a US connection. China would I guess be happy to regard Pakistan as the one Muslim country that deserved special attention.

What about the Palestinians? Oh yes, easily forgotten. Well, surely it isn't too difficult to think up several ways of giving them a much better deal than they have now with the one condition satisfied that Israeli Jews will not find themselves outbred and outvoted by Arab Muslims within the state of Israel. Secular outbred by Haredim? Oh well.

AnonStarter , says: November 17, 2020 at 10:33 am GMT • 10.4 hours ago

"Even to acknowledge the fact that AIPAC was spending tens of millions to defeat the Iran deal [JCPOA] was anti-Semitic. To observe that the same people who supported the war in Iraq also opposed the Iran deal was similarly off limits. It was an offensive way for people to avoid accountability for their own positions."

And this , ladies and gentlemen, is why we come here and speak often of Jews: because they make it so difficult to discuss their reality anywhere else.

This fact has to change in America and Europe as well.

frankie p , says: November 17, 2020 at 11:19 am GMT • 9.6 hours ago

Antisemitism is a rational response to the manifestation of Jewish anti-gentilism in gentile societies.

Any gentile who isn't antisemitic needs education and development of the will to self-protect.

The Spirit of Enoch Powell , says: November 17, 2020 at 11:30 am GMT • 9.4 hours ago
@Anon

Well, the verified Twitter account of BLM UK put out the above tweet, after that happened we saw an ebbing away of support for it and footballers no longer kneeled before a game. Really tells you a lot about the totem poll and which groups are placed where.

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 11:51 am GMT • 9.1 hours ago
@anon

How did they do it?

What you said, (all excellent, btw) plus what PG has long said.

More details can be found in the 10 planks of Marx's Commie Manifesto and the Protocols.

PG's reference to the Weimar republic is something decent Americans need to understand as well.

Unfortunately, as pathetic as things are, it's apparently not yet degenerate enough to wake up and motivate enough people to improve anything.

BuelahMan , says: November 17, 2020 at 11:57 am GMT • 9.0 hours ago
@anonymous

Ridiculous. Obama is half black and half jewish.

He's all in with the theft and take over by jews.

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 12:05 pm GMT • 8.8 hours ago
@Lot e topic of genetic disorders, I'm happy that you brought up Asperger's.

Let me also note that Asperger's syndrome has its highest prevalence among Ashkenazi Jews and their descendants.

-David Mamet, (from his book Bambi Vs Godzilla, 2007), as quoted by Henry Makow
https://www.henrymakow.com/aspergers_–_the_jewish_diseas.html

Here's some more soft porn for ya.

Lovely, isn't it?

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 12:10 pm GMT • 8.8 hours ago
@Ray Caruso

Israel is a leech. A leech won't kill you, but widespread cancer certainly will.

I hope yer not a dokter.

Truth Hurts the Liars , says: November 17, 2020 at 12:14 pm GMT • 8.7 hours ago

One word describes all the World's troubles.

Jews.

Robjil , says: November 17, 2020 at 12:48 pm GMT • 8.1 hours ago
@Lot https://www.the-sun.com/news/1532069/hunter-biden-wife-melissa-cohen-married-children/

She is also said to be a documentary filmmaker.

Before she met Biden, she was supportive of the Obama presidency, and critical of President Trump.

After the white supremacist march at Charlottesville she wrote of the president: "To those of you who voted for this POS [piece of s ** t] you should be ashamed. That's all."

According to the New Yorker, Cohen has a tattoo of the word "Shalom," or "peace," in Hebrew on her bicep.

BL , says: November 17, 2020 at 12:51 pm GMT • 8.1 hours ago

Israel's Power Is Unlimited

While you might not have written the headline it's an accurate synopsis of your argument.

I shouldn't give you a hard time for it because it's accepted across the geopolitical universe on Israel. Including, as you have long detailed, by Israel itself.

Amusingly, if you compare the mirror position along this spectrum, for example, elimination/"It's the 51st state!," they complete each other.

It just simply isn't true. Israel isn't sui genesis. It isn't a planet that doesn't have to, or refuses to, obey the laws of geopolitical physics.

Think of it this way. There's a disingenuous disconnect between the public discussion and that which takes place behind the curtain. As with seemingly everything else, it's just more so when it comes to Israel.

All of that was the shortest predicate for suggesting you notice the slim to none argument from this author in defense of the JCPOA, much less what the Obama administration sold as a rapprochement with Iran.

Did it have any coherence in that regard? No, indeed the Iranians stupidly insisted on rubbing it in our faces as an abandonment of not just Israel but all other states in the region.

It's impossible to overstate how thoroughly this has discredited the proponents of a deal with Iran.

Whatever you think are Israel's malefactions, they are no legitimate basis for the USG to gift a trouble-making Iran anything. Least of all, regional hegemony at the expense of everyone else.

Katrinka , says: November 17, 2020 at 12:57 pm GMT • 8.0 hours ago
@anon

https://www.stormfront.org/truth_at_last/sassoon.htm

The link will provide a pretty good synopsis of Jewish involvement in the opium trade cartel in China.

BannedHipster , says: Website November 17, 2020 at 1:07 pm GMT • 7.8 hours ago

The Anti-Defamation League is a front for Jewish organized crime that launders their money and defames anyone who says anything about it. The ADL openly supports apartheid in occupied Palestine. All Silicon Valley companies, including Wikipedia, count them as an "expert" on "hate" – despite the ADL being openly pro-apartheid. All the major news media corporations quote them as "experts" despite them being nothing more than a partisan political lobby.

How is the world is such an organization considered "mainstream" as opposed to a fringe hate group?

Felix Krull , says: November 17, 2020 at 1:11 pm GMT • 7.7 hours ago
@Anonymous

Regarding the photo accompanying this article: it is always beyond disconcerting to see Israel's satanic pentagram parked next to the American flag

You not count good?

The Star of David is a hexagram, moron. No less disturbing, but do the fucking math.

anarchyst , says: November 17, 2020 at 1:12 pm GMT • 7.7 hours ago

When it comes to Israel, it is obvious that President Trump has pretty much given the jews everything they wanted.

From the annexation of Jerusalem proper to the Golan Heights, Israel has gained approval for its questionable, illegal actions from President Trump and others in the U S government. His encouragement of recognition of Israel by other middle eastern countries is telling.

President Trump has been dealing with jews all of his life, being in the New York City real estate market. He KNOWS how jews act and what they are capable of, along with their foibles and weaknesses.

Since Trump gave the jews just about everything they wanted, he is finally going to exact his "price" for acquiescing to Israeli demands and is going to demand something in return.

President Trump is about to reduce, if not withdraw the entire American troop presence in the middle east. American troops can be replaced with Israeli troops.

Of course the jews will cry foul and scream that they need an American troop presence, but if President Trump does anything right , the reduction or withdrawal of American troops in the middle east would be a good first step.

President Trump has already replace the Secretary of Defense with someone more amenable to him. The American military-industrial complex will not like the changes, but they can go "pound sand".

Old and Grumpy , says: November 17, 2020 at 1:34 pm GMT • 7.4 hours ago

Well they are the chosen ones, and the rest of us are just beasts of burden. Just ask them. They wrote it in their book. The real travesty was putting the Torah in the Bible. Or maybe the penultimate travesty was being forcibly converted to Christianity by the Roman Catholic Church?

Robjil , says: November 17, 2020 at 1:37 pm GMT • 7.3 hours ago
@Katrinka

Here is another good source about the Sassoon's destruction of China in the 19th century. The Chinese remember it well especially for what was done to their summer palace, Yuan ming yuan. It held 5000 years of Chinese history.

https://parsikhabar.net/news/the-dragon-awakens/18572/

Greta Handel , says: November 17, 2020 at 1:47 pm GMT • 7.1 hours ago

Deference of Washington's elected politicians to Israel is repeatedly discussed in these columns. Courts traditionally hesitate to adjudicate issues of Uncle Sam's wars and other "foreign policy," and even related questions ( FEC v. Akins ). Americans tend to assume and accept that the judicial "branch" of the USG has nothing to do with these matters.

However, with another Presidential election possibly headed to the SCOTUS, there's an intriguing adjective in this sentence:

One should note that none of the pro-Israeli measures that are likely to come out of the White House enhance U.S. security in any way and they also do nothing particularly to benefit Trump's campaign to be re-elected through legal challenges.

Does Dr. Giraldi believe that the measures may generally benefit the legal challenges?

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 1:52 pm GMT • 7.1 hours ago
@BannedHipster

Agree.

Speaking of the ADL, I think our host's article is a must read.:

American Pravda: the ADL in American Society

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 1:57 pm GMT • 7.0 hours ago
@Robjil

She is for "peace". What kind of "peace"?

Without a doubt, her "tat" notwithstanding, she meant "piece." As in a piece for her and hers sufficient to allow nothing left for the deplorable goyim.

UncommonGround , says: November 17, 2020 at 2:13 pm GMT • 6.7 hours ago
@Robjil on and so on.

After reading that I thought that Americans are really admirable. Kamala's both parents came recently from foreign countries which have no close relation with the US. They were recent immigrants, refugees from poverty and other inconveniences. A few years later the daughter becomes vice president of the country, the controler of the president (one of them) and possibly the next president and at the same time begins to tell Americans what they have to think and to want. It's not even merely her opinion. She is telling Americans what they have to think and to accept. You don't have any choice. Kamala has decided.

God's Fool , says: November 17, 2020 at 2:35 pm GMT • 6.3 hours ago

"It is time for all Americans, including Jews, to accept that Israel is a foreign country that must make its own decisions and thereby suffer the consequences."

You're still walking on eggshells, Giraldi. You're either having problem understanding or are in deliberate need to evade the issue of a Jew not needing to practice Jewism (my definition of a complete Jew), that is to say, separate himself from Israel no Jew can nor will do so. Hence, America is either stuck with them or will have to declare that Jews, and only Jews, aren't part of this great experiment called United States of America. It'll hurt like hell to be divorced from present reality but at least this nation, without any natural enemies, will have a fighting chance of being a truly great country within the commity of nations. So long as a single Jew remains in America, there isn't any chance of having daylight between two separate nations. So, what's going to be, slavery with comfort or freedom with sacrifices?

Greta Handel , says: November 17, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT • 6.3 hours ago
@Greta Handel

Sorry, that "particularly" is an adverb, not an adjective.

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 2:43 pm GMT • 6.2 hours ago
@Robjil

Thanks very much for that. Excellent article, full of details that I was not aware of, and extremely interesting site.

Seems to me that it would be a good fit to be published here.

GMC , says: November 17, 2020 at 2:50 pm GMT • 6.1 hours ago
@BuelahMan con black and 99% NWO white Zionist on the inside. 2005 Senator Obama heads to Donetsk, Ukraine with 40 million dollars to De arm the Ukrainian military – he was successful and I can more that prove it since I lived there shortly after and knew some Ukraine military guys. This was part/ start of the Maidan plan. Move along to 2013 " We now have the right to use propaganda against our own citizens" Prez. Obama. Veterans Today – Obama WAS born in Africa , but we support him 100% . And this is is also true which means we have a psyops webpage there. Nam Vet here – and I don't like seeing Veterans screwed over by other " Veterans".
Desert Fox , says: November 17, 2020 at 2:54 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago

The key to zionist ie Israels power comes from the zionist owning the FED and from this came the zionist owning the government of the ZUS and from this came the trillions in debt and the unending wars for the zionists and for Israel.

Also from this control of the ZUS came the assassination of JFK and RFK and JFKjr. and the attack on the USS Liberty and the attack on the WTC on 911, which was used to plunge America into the unending wars against the Arabs, all for the benefit of Israel and the zionist dual citizen traitors in the ZUS.

Zionists are destroyers of nations and humanity and they are behind the covid-19 scam and psyop which is being used to destroy America and they are doing this via the World Economic Forum and the Rockefeller Foundation and UN Agenda 2030 which are the tips of the zionist spears aimed at the heart of America.

God help America.

John Q Duped , says: November 17, 2020 at 2:56 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago
@anon

Well written and informative. They also own (and control) most churches and long ago rewrote the Bible. And of course they create and own money.

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 5.9 hours ago
@anarchyst

Per the WSJ today, Trump is looking for a way to strike Iran for "starting to enrich uranium".

He's still trying to suck up to the Jews, after they just engineered the biggest coup on him. What an idiot!

Mustapha Mond , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:16 pm GMT • 5.7 hours ago
@anarchyst be illegal to print what Giraldi penned herein, as well as to discuss it over the internet, even via 'private' e-mails. Anti-semitism was quickly made a capital offense when the mostly jewish Bolshevik leaders enslaved Russia over a century ago. Expect similar here shortly, as many of us on Unz are somewhat elderly, and so a long prison term for 'inappropriate political speech' is basically a death sentence, which will be gleefully enforced by Tribal minions, of which there is never a dearth.

So we should enjoy our liberty to speak our minds freely here at Unz while we still have it, as it won't last long, I can assure you .

Rurik , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT • 5.6 hours ago

also do nothing particularly to benefit Trump's campaign to be re-elected through legal challenges.

Does Dr. Giraldi believe that the measures may generally benefit the legal challenges?

wasn't your entire shtick that it doesn't matter in the least which whore of Zion sits in the White House, and that we're all chumps for caring or voting, because it doesn't matter one whit?

And now somehow that the voting is over, you still seem keen on obsessing over the outcome.

To answer your question, (if I may Mr. G)..

'Pro-Israeli measures' (presidential slavish and abased fealty to Bibi/Israel) does nothing to particularly *or* generally benefit Trump, vs. the other whore of Zion. As 'Bibi' was one of the very first heads of state to congratulate Biden and toss his former supplicant and courtesan out the door – with less grace or gratitude than I've seen sailors toss two-bit hookers out the door once the service was performed.

I'm sure in both cases they feel particularly sullied. Considering how eagerly and enthusiastically they swallowed their um.. duties.

I must say, I felt more pity for the whore in some Caribbean port, who sold herself for a few pesos, than I do for the political whore who sold out my nation.

That said, Trump has done more to keep whatever shred of dignity a whore has, than all his recent predecessors.. (how do you quantify the incomprehensible evil of 9/11, Shock and Awe, Patriot Act, Gitmo, Obama's destruction of Libya and Syria, etc , using the English language?)

The bar has been so low for so long, that simply not having destroyed several nations and mass-murdered untold hundreds of thousands- in slavish fealty to Israel- is reason enough for some of us to consider your presidency a measured success.

Our free-fall into the abyss hit a snag on the way down with the Trump administration.

But not to worry, under Biden/Harris, we'll get to those 'seven nations'. It's just going to take a little longer than 'five years', is all.

Colin Wright , says: Website November 17, 2020 at 3:43 pm GMT • 5.2 hours ago
@Lot

'Nah, it's like Canada, an America Jr. '

Except that they shoot children, burn babies alive, and spit on Christians. And oh yeah: not much in the way of salmon fishing.

But other than that, just like Canada.

MarkU , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:45 pm GMT • 5.2 hours ago
@Ralph B. Seymour e 'friends of Israel'.

Nor is it really about Jews as such, it is about a Jewish financial elite that took control with the signing of the Federal Reserve act in 1913.

Face facts Americans, your 'deep state' is mostly controlled by Jewish bankers. If white gentiles were really in charge of America would they be demonising themselves with anti-white racism? Have you not noticed that your own political elites are marrying into the tribe? Remember those royal weddings that European monarchies arranged to seal alliances with other nations? Your political elites are cementing alliances with the bankers by marriage.

Colin Wright , says: Website November 17, 2020 at 3:46 pm GMT • 5.2 hours ago
@Rurik

'Our free-fall into the abyss hit a snag on the way down with the Trump administration.'

Not much of a snag, but you're right.

anon [332] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:48 pm GMT • 5.1 hours ago

If you're serious about this, you will acknowledge that your bosses at NHB get away with murder, torture, assassination of heads of state including your own, coercive interference, aggression, and use of banned weapons. Now is the time to drop your Boy Scout act.

You won't have to lean on your vegetable Biden too hard to make him faithfully execute the Symington-Glenn Amendment and the Leahy Law. That cuts off Mossad's bribe spigot. Maybe there will be a little dustup on your own turf, but who's going to win that? When it comes down to it, Israel is a one-nuke laydown.

The Israeli command structure are deep-dyed cowards. Whack a few in spectacular ways and the grabass will stop. Start with Bibi.

CoolAid Joe , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:48 pm GMT • 5.1 hours ago
@Lot

Yeah she's a hot bitch. A rare thing an attractive jew.

Good thing she's marrying out.

Rurik , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT • 5.1 hours ago
@Moi nists.

Not hardly.

And Phil is right, that we are very disgusted (understatement of the century) with the Eternal Wars for Israel.

But like the French, (who bombed Libya into the stone age in fealty to Zion), and the Brits who go along with it all, and the Germans who piss their lederhosen at the mention of Israel, and all the other countries that are vassals of the Federal Reserve and their Satanic minions, our institutions also have been utterly corrupted by this (((fiat paper))).

But that doesn't mean that we like it.

anonymous [400] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 3:54 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago

many American politicians get "very, very rich" through their support

That's one of the major features of American politics. American politicians are mostly whores for sale so naturally various interests will buy them. It's not what's good for the country but what's good for their bank account. Greed and corruption are what'll be the undoing of the US.
It's only logical that Iran would want to build nuclear weapons since the US and Israel have them and war has been threatened against Iran almost continuously. Being threatened has a way of spurring on the acquisition of nuclear weapons. The US was the first to develop them and then actually used them, setting off a chain reaction of other countries developing their own. It seems to only be a matter of time before Iran actually has it. Then what?

heymrguda , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:00 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Don't forget Rep. Jim Traficant (d-oh) on your list of people torpedoed by the lobby.

anon [315] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:02 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

My favorite poster of the day, says it all about whites who continue to vote with the Satanic, blood-sucking, parasitic tribe:

Realist , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:03 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Perhaps some day Whites will stop pissing and moaning and do something about their plight.

Philip Giraldi , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:11 pm GMT • 4.7 hours ago
@heymrguda

Thanks – I did forget Jim, who stood up to the bastards and paid the price.

anon [315] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:12 pm GMT • 4.7 hours ago
@anonymous

Are we talking about the same Obama? The Obama who invaded Syria and Libya when they did absolutely nothing to threaten the security of the US? The JCPOA was credit to John Kerry, who was then slaughtered by msm on his way out for calling for a two-state solution that includes Israel leaving the occupied West Bank.

Osama was spot on when he called Obama a "house nigger". That was all he was, nothing more. We don't need another. We already had one.

RedpilledAF , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:15 pm GMT • 4.7 hours ago

I am more and more a supporter of Iran every day.

They had a revolution to get rid of western influenced degeneracy. They support Palestine unwaveringly. They support Lebanon unwaveringly. They defended Syria along with Russia. They are Russia's closest ally in the world. They stand up to Israel. They fight Israel. They attack the social and political theory of Zionism as well it's existence.

God bless them and protect them because often it seems like they are the only ones at a state level doing anything about the evil in our world.

Lot , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:16 pm GMT • 4.7 hours ago
@Colin Wright

Those are things happening IN Canada due to its insane decision to import Muslims and Haitians.

You're right that Israel at times can be brutal. Muslim barbarism coarsens those around them. Not just Israel: Thailand, Philippines, Burma, India, Ethiopia, Greece, Armenia.

The worldwide Jihad Colin and Phil support creates bloody borders with Islam always seeking to conquer and enslave.

Israel says NO! And that's why they are full of obsessive hate for it.

Rurik , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:17 pm GMT • 4.6 hours ago
@Realist

Perhaps some day Whites will stop pissing and moaning and do something about their plight.

by all means, what do you propose?

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:31 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago
@Realist

Perhaps some day Whites will stop pissing and moaning and do something about their plight.

Patience, Grasshopper!

You are not a gardener, are you?

Jack McArthur , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago
@anon

A fine analysis. I would add in one more group to your list i.e. the Christian churches who daily play the part of Judas.

Realist , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:35 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@Rurik

by all means, what do you propose?

Revolution and you?

phillip sawicki , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:36 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@anon ormer number two at the State Department) and his son Douglas published 'The Passionate Attachment," explaining how it had evolved over the years. In 2007 came the Mearsheimer/Walt book on AIPAC. For a critical history of Israel wince Biblical times, see Laurent Guyenot's book From Yahweh to Zion, published in 2018. The last-named says that Israel is responsible for JFK's death. He had tried to stop Israel's nuclear weapons program and thus was killed. The Warren Report covered up that particular crime. Jews are a tremendously talented tribe, but they have no right to dominate the world, which is what Israel is now determined to do.
Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:36 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@Lot

The worldwide Jihad Colin and Phil support creates bloody borders with Islam always seeking to conquer and enslave.

Israel says NO!

Of course they say "no." An Izzie without a monopoly? Unthinkable.

Poco , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:38 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@Robjil

That arm should be amputated. Then shoved up her ass.

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@Philip Giraldi

Thanks – I did forget Jim, who stood up to the bastards and paid the price.

True, and I wonder how long it'll take before people realize that even by sucking up to the bastards they'll still pay the price.

anarchyst , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:45 pm GMT • 4.2 hours ago
@Realist eing but another hazard that the left takes advantage of, in order to silence the opposition, with good effect, so far
All one has to do is look at the Memphis couple who was arrested for defending themselves as well as James Fields who has been wrongly convicted of murder while attempting to escape while being attacked.
At the present time, discretion is advised.
The only effective way to "nip this in the bud" would be to confront the police, city officials, judges and prosecutors directly
As they are well-protected, that is not a viable option at this time presently, but in the future who knows??
Realist , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:52 pm GMT • 4.1 hours ago
@Ugetit

Patience, Grasshopper!

You are not a gardener, are you?

Silly childish response Patience has brought us to this disastrous point in US history

phillip sawicki , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:53 pm GMT • 4.0 hours ago

There are some very good books on the subject. See The Passionate Attachment by George and Douglas Ball, published in 1992. (George Ball was the number two man at State under jFK and LBJ.)
See the book on AIPAC by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, published in 2007. See Laurent Guyenot's From Yahweh to Zion, published in 2018.

Anonymous [401] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:55 pm GMT • 4.0 hours ago
@BL Did Jews learn nothing by wandering the desert for 40 years? Do they forget that they were frog-marched for defying their own god, Yahweh, yet again? Yet they seem to think their slow-motion shoahing of Palestinians will go unpunished.

How many future small-but-hugely-powerful guided missiles hitting Haifa, Tel Aviv, etc. will Israelis be able to take? What their power-hungry pride protect them then?

Do Jews really think they will not be held responsible/targeted around the world for the crimes of their state?

What other state, what other people, think only THEY matter?

The Jewish State has become a blight unto the nations.

Israelo delenda est!

Jack McArthur , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:56 pm GMT • 4.0 hours ago

Whilst human beings conspiring is as old nevertheless the Biden family is an example of something way, way beyond human artifice. You do not have to be a Christian to recognize that what Jesus said of the Jews was right on the mark – their father is a devil. The New Testament says explicitly that the ruler of this world is the Satanic Majesties the Rolling Stones celebrated in 1967.

Jesus was offered the entire world if he would take the knee not to Saint George of this sick era but to satan. He replied that this was the epitome of shortermism.

People are no more than puppets on a string without divine protection and that is why I do not hate Jews but only the vile evil in which they excel through the "gifts" of their spiritual father.

Greta Handel , says: November 17, 2020 at 4:57 pm GMT • 4.0 hours ago
@Rurik ion sits in the White House, and that we're all chumps for caring or voting, because it doesn't matter one whit?

And now somehow that the voting is over, you still seem keen on obsessing over the outcome.

There's nothing inconsistent in (i) my position about the futility of Red/Blue politics to effect any change in what matters to the Establishment and (ii) the question I've posed to the author. In fact, how and why "the outcome" is arrived at may enlighten some gullible voters.

Of course, you neither needed nor wanted to hear that. Which is why you didn't reply to me directly, right?

Philip Giraldi , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:01 pm GMT • 3.9 hours ago
@phillip sawicki

And Alison Weir's Against Our Better Judgment

Jack McArthur , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:10 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago
@phillip sawicki

Your observation is confirmed by Lord Beaverbrook explaining to the young Robert Kennedy at the end of WW2 that the USA was a subjugated country run by Jews.

Cauchemar du Singe , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:28 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago
@anon

The Talmudic Zionist jew vampire pirates, in their arrogance, believe themselves to be beyond accountability for their many misdeeds.
Speed The Day when their filthy little illegitimate enclave on the Easterrn shores of The Med gets glassed over in a thermonuclear kind of way.
The remedy for the ills of Wall Street and The Bank of England will only be a tad less harsh.
A bounty on all Rothschilds and Warburgs and their servile rats and snakes would also be nice.

It's got to start somewhere.

Rurik , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:30 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago
@Realist nks Woodrow) [RIH]

And then there's also the 'Atlas Shrugged' strategy- wherein all honest and productive people of good will, eventually refuse to be willing lapdogs to this Satanic cabal.

As long as you'll lose your job, by mentioning the truth, don't do so. But more and more, as the 'hundredth monkey' come around to the Great Awakening', like the Soviet Union, this devil'$ charade must certainly die its ignoble death.

and beauty, truth and peace, will once again rise like a phoenix from the ashes of Zion

Defcon , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:32 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago
@Ralph B. Seymour shred of human remorse.

The bolsheviks goal was a %90 reduction in population, the Talmud states that the "goy" were to be their servants, the beasts are not worthy. 10% of the Russian goys would be enough.

After their reign of terror from 1917 to 1989, they sucked the rest of Russia dry and moved to their next target, the USA. They are almost done here, they will poison us with the covid vaccination and as a final F you leave us as a minority among the hoards of subhumans.

Their next target is Uzbekistan, this is why no one ever hears about the country or can point it out on a map.

Cauchemar du Singe , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:37 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago
@Achilles Wannabe

Ben Franklin, in his prescient wisdom, wanted a Constitutional inclusion that would have barred (((them))) from even setting foot upon The New Republic.
Too bad that (((The Worms))) were already here perpetrating their financial scumbaggery.

Cauchemar du Singe , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:44 pm GMT • 3.2 hours ago
@frankie p

jews, Blacks and Muslims TEACH people to hate them, and are very good teachers.

BL , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:46 pm GMT • 3.2 hours ago
@Anonymous e in terms of any real concern for the national interest of the United States vis-à-vis Iran.

Also, did you intentionally omit the USA removing Iran's democratically-elected leader in 1953? Or America giving poison gas to Iraq to use against Iranians?

A word to the wise, sovereigns aren't cute and cuddly. The effect their interests with little regard for humans in their way.

It's downright embarrassing that Iran and its acolytes are still belly-aching about Mosaddegh. It's going to continue to be a hard road with the US if they don't learn to shake it off.

melgibson , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:48 pm GMT • 3.1 hours ago
@Colin Wright

How about a movie, a Hollywood style blockbuster titled: Operation Susanna! What a spy thriller that would be.

Per/Norway , says: November 17, 2020 at 5:54 pm GMT • 3.0 hours ago
@MarkU

You are not supposed to notice these patterns.
Report to the nearest fema HaPpY CaMp™ for your reeducation peasant.

Katrinka , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:01 pm GMT • 2.9 hours ago
@Jack McArthur

If any minister, pastor, or priest starts to sermonize about Judeo-Christian commonality, head straight out the door. Christians and Jews have no common ground. In fact, the modern Jewish religion was created as a response to Christianity. It is Pharisaism based on the Talmud, not the Old Testament.
http://judaism.is/judeo-christian.html
https://keruxreplies.blogspot.com/2010/06/judeo-christian-is-oxymoron.html

Per/Norway , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:04 pm GMT • 2.9 hours ago
@Achilles Wannabe

dig a bit deeper on the interwebz and you will see that there are many wypipo historians that have screamed this message the last 100 years+.
They get shunned, memoryholed or worse.
I will not link on purpose because the search is important for learning, but i will give you a hint
archiveDOTorg have many off their books available.
Type "political zionism" into their searchbar and learn about the enemy of humanity and their origins first.
Pharisees is their true name btw, b4 the 2 world wars this was common knowledge among us Christian goyims

Per/Norway , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:06 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago
@Anonymous

the star of david is not a pentagram it is satanic tho.

Rev. Spooner , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:07 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

This is from wikipedia for whatever it's worth -- Centuries later, the Jews were expelled from China proper during the Great Anti-Buddhist Persecution (845–46), where they lived in the region of Ningxia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews

That makes it 110 countries?

Rurik , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@Greta Handel p> The fact that I quoted you, on the same thread you're reading and writing on, means to a certainty that I was responding to your post with the intent that you'd see it. (duh)

There's nothing inconsistent in (i) my position about the futility of Red/Blue politics to effect any change in what matters to the Establishment and (ii) the question I've posed to the author. In fact, how and why "the outcome" is arrived at may enlighten some gullible voters.

Yea, that was your only interest, in your priggish, pedantic parsing of Philip's prose.

I gotcha

Curmudgeon , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:31 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@Colin Wright

Canada has been kiked for 50 years. The Canada I grew up in had no problem pointing out tribal influence, and no one called it Auntie Shem-itism.
We have gone from the 1930s when "one would be too many" was the attitude to Jewish "refugees" asking for admission to openly admitting we are Israel's bitch. At the same time, making it clear non-whites were not welcome to let's flood the country, already suffering from high unemployment, with more than 1% of our population annually from the 3rd world.

anon [471] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:35 pm GMT • 2.3 hours ago
@BL

"t's downright embarrassing that Iran and its acolytes are still belly-aching about Mosaddegh."

It's downright embarrassing that Israel and its acolytes are still belly-aching about Holocaust to steal few more pennies and dimes .

t's downright embarrassing that west and its acolytes are still belly-aching about 911 ,and knife attacks and Chinese something to wage wars for Israel.

profnasty , says: November 17, 2020 at 6:37 pm GMT • 2.3 hours ago

Good points all.
My suggestion?
Establish Greater Israel from Nile to Euphrates. Give Jews full hegemony in their new country.
Then, deport 3/4 of American Jews. Make laws to prevent, here, Jewish control of finance, education, or media. And above all, keep America's nuclear deterrent razor sharp.
Thank you. Thank you very much.

Colin Wright , says: Website November 17, 2020 at 6:51 pm GMT • 2.1 hours ago
@Lot

'Israel says NO! And that's why they are full of obsessive hate for it.'

No -- I'm full of hate for Israel because it's an evil, duplicitous, corrosive, criminal, indefensible, and unnecessary state that generates a great deal of misery that wouldn't otherwise happen and that has corrupted my own country and implicated us in its crimes.

Colin Wright , says: Website November 17, 2020 at 6:59 pm GMT • 1.9 hours ago
@anonymous

' it seems that only a smart, independent minded black politician '

Black politicians come in two flavors: corrupt, and ineffectual. Neither one would serve your purposes.

Black politicians -- and judges -- actually tend to be Israel's most willing tools

Realist , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:01 pm GMT • 1.9 hours ago
@Rurik

Swell poetry but what's the solution?

Realist , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:08 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago
@anarchyst

Written like a true wimp bend over and take it in the ass.

anonymous [387] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:10 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago
@RoatanBill

All foreign aid should be turned off

Lol! The irony hidden there is hilarious.

You see, it is the Banana States of America which is the most indebted beggar nation on earth. It survives because foreign nations perform trade using the dollar. Without that trade, the Banana States would be on its knees, literally begging.

Now, do you see who is aiding whom?

anonymous [321] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:15 pm GMT • 1.7 hours ago
@anon

Judeo-fascism
Judeo-deception
Judeo-hypocrisy
Judeo-coup

[MORE]
mark green , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:46 pm GMT • 1.2 hours ago
@frankie p mplex–and often ruthless–political struggle.

In fact, 'anti-Semitism' is a legitimate and appropriate self-defense mechanism. 'Anti-Semitism' needn't produce violence, injustice, or bloodshed. It is fundamentally about awareness and self-preservation. It is a discredited virtue, born from necessity.

Invasive, devious, and destruction species must be resisted. 'Anti-Semitic' theory suggests that one party–often the dominant, duplicitous, and aggressive one– is endowed with moral superiority in the struggle for political power and self-determination. This inculcated myth is an oversized kosher lie.

anonymous [387] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:56 pm GMT • 60 minutes ago
@Cauchemar du Singe . So do not knowingly set up equals to Allah ˹in worship˺ .

And if you are in doubt about what We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a sûrah like it and call your helpers other than Allah, if what you say is true.

But if you are unable to do so -- and you will never be able to do so -- then fear the Fire fuelled with people and stones, which is prepared for the disbelievers .

May your hate consume you in this world, while the fire of Hell awaits your kind with much anticipation.

On the Day We will say to Hell, "Have you been filled?" and it will say, "Are there some more?"

anon [148] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:59 pm GMT • 57 minutes ago

Just like any cancer, it finally kills it's host, and it goes down with it.
Some day , the cure will come , and the world will be rid of it's foremost problem

AReply , says: November 17, 2020 at 7:59 pm GMT • 57 minutes ago

Dazzling! Fascinating!

This narrative of the poor enslaved USA, beholden to Isreal is openly contradictory to our manifest galactic power -- something, something middle-east energy and minerals, geopolitics Whatever Boring!

As to heartache of Obama: While Isreal working him over through the derp state double agent Rahm, U.S. Republicans shit on the President's head continuously, en masse for his entire tenure and thwarted with open bigotry and contempt his every attempt to execute thoroughly Republican policy!

So yes, Zion, and Republicans. Both a great threat to USA and democracy.

Pat Kittle , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:05 pm GMT • 51 minutes ago

JOE BIDEN receives a MOMENTO from the JEW LOBBY

Old Joe's most humiliating (& revealing) experience
was immediately consigned to the Memory Hole:
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"I HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER YOU BUT BROKEN GLASS," Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu addressed US Vice President Biden during an after-dinner ceremony in Jerusalem on March 9, 2010.

Netanyahu had prepared a symbolic gift for visiting Vice President JoeBiden: a framed document announcing that several trees were planted in Jerusalem in memory of Biden's mother, a loyal supporter of Israel.

But with Biden's mission to persuade the Israeli government to begin shrinking Greater Israel back to its pre-1967 borders, Netanyahu leaned on thepresent (NOT "accidentally" as reported by the Jew-owned press) and shattered the glass frame.

Then came Netanyahu's cyptic warning and by way of indirection, a threat to Obama: "I have one thing to offer you right now, and it's broken glass." [ViewFull Photo Here.]

It got worse. At a later tour of Israel's Holocaust memorial museum, Yad Vashem, the lights in the Hall of Remembrance "unexpectedly" went out as a prayer for the dead was chanted.

Catching Biden's security detail by surprise as they anxiously stood forover 60 seconds in utter darkness, only the "eternal fire" that honored the Jewish dead spread its ominous light upon the Biden contingent.

By the time the lights flickered back on, Biden's Middle East fortunes were sealed with an Israeli announcement that it would build 1,600 new homes for Jewish settlers, ignoring US and Palestinian objections. On Biden's departure for Jordan, Ha'aretz reported that Israel plans to build 50,000 new homes in East Jerusalem over the next three years.

The "broken glass" and the "moments of darkness" that Biden experienced were not chance events. Nothing happens at official Israeli gatherings that is not carefully planned and orchestrated in advance. And in spite of Biden's groveling before Netanyahu and Peres, with vows of Israel being the "centerpiece of US policy," the Vice President's cowering was met with glassy eyes by the leaders of the "master race."

Symbolic acts, such as the breaking of a glass by a Jewish groom beforemaking vows of faithfulness to his bride at every Jewish wedding, are part of Jewish tradition. When the Jewish groom crushes the glass beneath his rightfoot, he silently pledges to avenge the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and wage war on all those who would perpetuate that destruction .

CONTINUED:
-- ( http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=488 )

sarz , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:08 pm GMT • 48 minutes ago
@anarchyst

Trump hasn't just been dealing with Jews his whole life. The Trumps are Jews, as Trump's elder brother told his frat brothers at his Jewish fraternity at college. What Trump did for Israel was done because of what he considers himself to be. But that doesn't mean he doesn't recognize something higher. He does. Himself. If he can't be a winner affirming Israel, then the hell with Israel. That's really ultimate Jewish values, right? Some have spoken of it as having no soul.

RoatanBill , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:09 pm GMT • 47 minutes ago
@anonymous e to nothing to do with the US's foreign aid scam.

Foreign aid supports dictators around the world to see things the US's way.

It provides the money to, for example, Israel, to turn that money around to purchase weapons and to bribe Congress with our own currency. In effect, the US uses foreign aid as a straw man to simply funnel money from the US gov't to the US corporate elite and Congress.

Some of the money that went to Ukraine eventually found its way back to the US in Biden's pocket along with a whole host of DNC operatives. That revelation should come out if the Justice Dept weren't part of the scam.

Z-man , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:18 pm GMT • 38 minutes ago

I z ruel The Last Superpower.

Anon [255] Disclaimer , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:21 pm GMT • 35 minutes ago

Must be, look at what theyve gotten away with. COVID race specific biowar. 9/11. Theres no terrorism, only Israel going for world domination. USS Liberty. Murder of Patton. On and on.

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT • 34 minutes ago
@Realist

Silly childish response

You want a silly childish response?

Here you go.

Perhaps some day Whites will stop pissing and moaning and do something about their plight.

Greta Handel , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:24 pm GMT • 32 minutes ago
@Rurik " into pseudonymity by Mr. Unz's recent limit of three anonymous comments per day, tends to decay the quality of discussion in comment threads. People think that they have to mark every hydrant, and wait on each other to settle scores, rather than comment on the column. (I'm not immune!) This is what happened at Taki's, ZeroHedge, and most recently Kunstler, where the same people trudge into their pews every Monday and Friday, hear one of the same few sermons, and then start snipping.

If we didn't have a history, "Rurik," I doubt that you would have taken much interest in my #35, which you apparently still misunderstand.

sarz , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:25 pm GMT • 31 minutes ago
@RedpilledAF

It's written in the Iran constitution that it is the duty of the country to fight oppression.

Ugetit , says: November 17, 2020 at 8:30 pm GMT • 26 minutes ago
@Realist

Written like a true wimp bend over and take it in the ass.

By the sounds of yer squaking, you've been doing enough of that for all of us, Ram-bo. Now, step aside and let the grownups decide.

[Nov 17, 2020] -No, This Is Trump-- Georgia Recount Auditor Claims Multiple Trump Ballots Fraudulently Called For Biden -

Highly recommended!
Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"No, This Is Trump": Georgia Recount Auditor Claims Multiple Trump Ballots Fraudulently Called For Biden


span by Tyler Durden Mon, 11/16/2020 - 20:25 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

A GOP recount observer in Georgia claims that several ballots recorded as Biden were actually votes for Trump , and workers conducting the recount became angry when he reported what was happening to elections officials.

The insider told Project Veritas , "The second person was supposed to be checking it right, three times in three minutes she called out Biden," adding "The second auditor caught it and she said, " No, this is Trump .""

"Now, that's just while I'm standing there. So, does the second checker catch it every time? But this lady in three times in three minutes from 2:09 to 2:12 she got three wrong."" he continued, adding "They were calling their bosses. They were pointing at me..."

Watch:

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=false&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1328487438713565184&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fno-trump-georgia-recount-auditor-claims-multiple-trump-ballots-fraudulently-called-biden&siteScreenName=zerohedge&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=550px

Earlier in the day, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger hit back against claims that he facilitated an unfair, illegal ballot count . He's also been accused of trying to skip the manual recount altogether, and initially "wanted to just rescan the bar codes & be done with it."

, 3 hours ago

Welcome To America

Welcome To The Most Corrupt Nation On The Planet......Fact

Welcome To The Most Dumbest Naive Brainwashed Nation On The Planet....Fact

smellmyfingers , 3 hours ago

This is click bait for people who want Trump and and an honest election.

The evidence is overwhelming. They will do Nothing.

You reap what you sow, America better get ready for a totally lawless society because it's coming.

The First Rule , 1 hour ago

Fulton and Dekalb Counties are cesspools of Democrat Cheating (as is apparently areas of Cobb).

Brad Raffensperger knows this. He just doesn't care to make sure the votes are counted accurately there.

If he did, Trump would win GA. And Perdue would NOT be in a Run-Off.

But Brad's boss, George Soros, would frown upon that.

Normalcy Bias , 3 hours ago

This is exactly why they've made Republican Poll Watchers stand back 50'-100.'

Having spent over half of my life in or in a county next to Fulton, I'd wager that half of the Fulton County poll workers aren't even literate.


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Didymus , 3 hours ago

and gop allows it. they never fight, they always give in.

LetThemEatRand , 3 hours ago

Uniparty.

Sven Novgorod , 2 hours ago

The Uniparty = Deepstate.

It's been like this for a long time and when you look back in time with that point of view most of the unusual laws and decisions made by lawmakers over the years start to make sense, at least from the point of view of the Uniparty and it's associates.

Gerrilea , 2 hours ago

Psychotic question, seriously. Blame the victim.

The American public has been trained & conditioned like Pavlov's dogs to believe our government has our best interests at heart. Hell, I believed it for a very long time. Slowly I woke up to the Uniparty after the 2004 election.

We can't have endless wars & war profiteering by multi-national conglomerates like Halliburton without cannon fodder AND Pelosi giving her "men" in the White House, all the money and resources the American people can offer for the next 10 generations.

We've been continually sold a bill of goods that most did not realize was a poison pill. "The Crime Bill", "took a bite out of crime". When in reality it created the Prison Industrial Complex that initiated the New American Plantation and how we got a CANDIDATE for the VP position whom actually argued in court NOT to allow criminals out whom had done their time BECAUSE it would hurt the business model of the prison.

I could go on and on AND all we are left with is armed restoration of Constitutional Law and bringing the traitors before a military tribunal for execution.

Kan , 2 hours ago

98% of the counties are NOT corrupt, so you'd not see much just the software slowly without your knowledge moving the numbers over to the BLUE candidates and RHINO's.

That is why most of the map of counties is RED and not BLUE. You only need some of the most populous locations in the past because the news was setup to keep us around 50/50 all the time... But in this case its 30% more trump votes they have to overcome with cheating in the democrap cities.

slightlyskeptical , 32 minutes ago

The recount will give the answer on the machines. Thus far they haven't found any machine tabulating errors in the recounts.

DebbieDowner , 2 hours ago

Spent my time trying NOT to get into politics, because it's a waste of my talents and skills.

What a sham... there was never any way to WIN. The only option was/is all out war.

Peace_and_Love , 3 hours ago

So, they need to stop the whole effing process and start over, and have every damned vote verified by both parties, with video recording the damned process.

LetThemEatRand , 3 hours ago

The interesting question is whether Trump (a highly flawed candidate who brought us a bigger banker bailout than Bush/Obama by far) is going to finally wake up middle America to the fact that elections don't matter. If he accomplishes that, he won. Bigly.

[Nov 17, 2020] November 14, 2020 at 5:03 am

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... "They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen." ..."
"... we can see that 2016 candidate Trump was relatively Trumpist but President Trump was less so. Salaries for the bottom 25% of workers did have the highest rate in increase during his term (through 2019). But in 2020, candidate Trump almost completely rejected Trumpism and ran as an ruling class establishment stooge. ..."
"... Trumpism is not a revolutionary ideology in the correct sense of the term. It is an incrementalist approach that seeks to better the material conditions of the working class but within the current capitalist power structure. ..."
"... The ruling class strategy in the US is to decorate with masks of "diversity" the ugly visages of class dominance. Thus Obama's and soon Kamala's pro-ruling class policies cannot be criticized for fear of being abused as a "racist". ..."
"... Trumpism relies on labor markets to improve the material conditions of the working class. A tight labor market necessarily transfers wealth from the rich to the poor in the form of decreased profits for the rich through increased salaries for the poor. ..."
"... Trump the ruler was presented with the greatest gift a border-loving Trumpist politician could ever ask for: Covid-19. But instead of exploiting this crisis like Viktor Orbán did in Hungary, Trump stabbed Trumpism in the back by turning himself into a useless libertarian during the crisis by refusing for example to push a law that requires home manufacturing of all critical supplies and in never closing the borders properly. He acted like a narcissistic clown in the early days of the crisis and deserves to lose just for that reason. ..."
"... So US racism is fully owned and perpetuated by the ruling class: wealthy oligarchs (including Trump), the media, Wall Street, CIA, FBI, the military industrial complex, multi-national corporations, Silicone Valley Tech, Hollywood, etc. Where there is power there is racism, where there is powerlessness there may be bigotry but not racism. The above lineup of ruling class racists, except for Trump, is the Biden coalition. The ruling class goal is to place an "enlightened person" mask over naked and rapacious ruling class greed and oppression. ..."
"... Under Biden, globalization will once again increase the pace and amplitude of the immiseration of the working class, resistance to the dominant economic paradigm will only grow on both the progressive left and the popular right. ..."
"... In a sense the Biden presidency will be a reactionary movement in that they will be trying to restore the pre-Trumpism political order. This will only further cement the soundness of Trumpism as an ideology. ..."
"... The bottom has no political or economic leverage, and isn't navigating to a position of strength. For example, the "bottom" is currently accepting placebo identity-politics as pacifier. The "bottom" is still searching for an "easy button" solution rather than taking a deeper look at oneself and the layout of the chess board at the macro level. ..."
"... Within an environment of worker scarcity, automation is a positive trend and helps lessen inflationary pressures. The problem with the US is that there is not enough automation because of cheap and docile labor. Compare a meat packing plant in Denmark which is highly automated compared to a US plant, which is packed to the brim with cheap imported labor. Much of the Covid crisis in the US and UK is brought about by sweatshop-style working conditions. ..."
"... It's grotesque to learn that Kamila Harris's relatives are connected to Uber/Lyft. Prop. 22 getting approved in California is another sign of propaganda/big money effectiveness ..."
"... Trumpism stands in opposition to globalization; whose goal is worker abundance which necessarily drives wages down and increases oligarchic wealth. US led imperialism, especially in the Middle East is also a necessary feature of globalization. ..."
"... Here too I would make a modification. Neo-liberalism and globalization aren't about worker "abundance" but rather worker "disposability." Again, if the idea is to create an abundance of workers, driving down market share, then why make finding work so complicated? Why be against strong education systems which would create new workers. Why shut down factories here in the US only to open them in Korea? Why lock up so many Americans for petty offensive, removing them from the willing work force. ..."
"... I would argue that the heart of neo-liberalism is a class structure that places "the establishment" as not just important in the grand scheme of things, but completely indispensable to an individual. And part of that self-aggrandizement is the subjection of every one else. "I am worth more than a thousand of you." Thus, why I must get 2-million-dollar bonus (even after bankrupting the company) and a post on the new re-org chart while everyone else gets a pink slip and watch their hard-earned pensions disappear in chapter 11 proceedings. ..."
"... But it does speak to how disposable workers are to upper management. You are hired for X, and when X is done you are automatically laid off. Why would you waste time giving such an employee training of any sort? Let alone benefits or perks. ..."
"... What is inexplicable is when unions attack Trumpist attempts at macro-scarcity through the use of national borders. A united Union/Trumpist front is required against ruling class interests. Struggling for worker scarcity does not mean one "hates" the workers the ruling class is importing in order to create worker abundance. ..."
"... Neoliberalism is Capitalism's attempt to remove the fetters on profits that exist within the power of a nation-state. Worker abundance is just one of many Neoliberal goals. Borders are a huge fetter to capitalism's basic mission of maximizing profit by producing commodifies with the cheapest labor and selling them to the wealthiest consumers. ..."
"... This is a very important aspect of precarity. Reducing work competition for jobs to increase wages is only half the job, stopping financial predators is the other half, imo ..."
"... Without immigration or outsourcing or even automation, the predators will find still other ways to break labor. We are seeing it with identity politics. ..."
"... I would argue that Bernie and Tulsi are "Trumpism adjacent" in the larger sense of Trumpism. ..."
"... If Trumpism as an ideology is going to flourish, Tulsi in particular will play a critical role in this. The simplest way to see this is that when the ruling class smears someone as a "Russian asset" what they are really doing is recognizing them as a Trumpist threat. ..."
"... precarious (adj.) 1640s, a legal word, "held through the favor of another," from Latin precarius "depending on favor, pertaining to entreaty, obtained by asking or praying," from prex (genitive precis) "entreaty, prayer" (from PIE root *prek- "to ask, entreat"). ..."
"... The notion of "dependent on the will of another" led to the extended sense "risky, dangerous, hazardous, uncertain" (1680s), but this was objected to. "No word is more unskillfully used than this with its derivatives. It is used for uncertain in all its senses; but it only means uncertain, as dependent on others " [Johnson]. Related: Precariously; precariousness. ..."
"... Questiones Disputatae ..."
"... contra, sed contra, ..."
"... When investigating the nature of anything, one should make the same kind of analysis as he makes when he reduces a proposition to certain self-evident principles." ..."
"... Vista Hermosa residents like Luna are troubled by a 2019 environmental rollback by the state, AB1197, that exempts homeless housing developments in the City of Los Angeles from the mandates of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). Arguably California's broadest environmental law, CEQA requires builders to assess the environmental impacts of new development and find ways to avoid or mitigate them. ..."
"... The political will to rollback CEQA has continued into 2020. In January, Assemblyman Miguel Santiago, who represents District 53 bordering Vista Hermosa, introduced a new piece of legislation, AB1907, to further expand CEQA exemptions to now include all affordable housing. ..."
"... "Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! " ..."
"... primary-winning ..."
"... "a giant suction pump had by 1929 to 1930 drawn into a few hands an increasing proportion of currently produced wealth. This served then as capital accumulations. But by taking purchasing power out of the hands of mass consumers, the savers denied themselves the kind of effective demand for their products which would justify reinvestment of the capital accumulation in new plants. In consequence as in a poker game where the chips were concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in the game only by borrowing. When the credit ran out, the game stopped" ..."
Nov 17, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

We have to carefully distinguish between two very different concepts, both based on the word "Trump". First there is "Trumpism" which is an ideology. The overarching idea behind Trumpism is to make the GOP a working-class oriented party. The key policy aims of Trumpism are worker scarcity and anti-imperialism. Worker scarcity is achieved through immigration restriction and protectionist trade policies. So together, we have the Trumpist Trinity, anti-immigration, trade restriction, and anti-imperialism. This is the ideology that Trump ran on and rode to victory in 2016. This is the idea. Unions exist to create micro-worker scarcity. Borders can be used to create macro-worker scarcity which is far more powerful. And E-verify can be far more effective than a bombastic wall.

Trumpism stands in opposition to globalization; whose goal is worker abundance which necessarily drives wages down and increases oligarchic wealth. US led imperialism, especially in the Middle East is also a necessary feature of globalization. Invade the World / Invite the World.

The US has always featured two political parties that serve ruling class interests; Huey Long described it thusly,

"They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen."

Trumpism attempts to force one group of waiters to get their grub from the working class' kitchen. This is obviously an ambitious goal.

Now comes a crucial distinction. In addition to the ideology of "Trumpism" there is "Trump", the man and his brand. At best there is an extremely tenuous relationship between Trumpism and Trump. Now to some extent this is natural as ideas never remain pure for long when poured into the cauldron of reality. With that in mind, we can see that 2016 candidate Trump was relatively Trumpist but President Trump was less so. Salaries for the bottom 25% of workers did have the highest rate in increase during his term (through 2019). But in 2020, candidate Trump almost completely rejected Trumpism and ran as an ruling class establishment stooge.

Now of course Trump is an oligarch and so he is a member of the ruling class. But within oligarchy, the only people who can challenge the existing order are oligarchs. He committed massive class treason in 2016 in order to serve his narcissistic need for recognition and power. In no way should Trump be idealized as altruistically caring about the working class. Trumpism was nothing more than a means to an end. Trump's end is and always will be Trump, not Trumpism per se. But none the less Trump exploited and brought to life Trumpism and his motives for doing so are irrelevant.

Trumpism is not a revolutionary ideology in the correct sense of the term. It is an incrementalist approach that seeks to better the material conditions of the working class but within the current capitalist power structure. It posits a class struggle ideological superstructure which is radical opposition to the globalist ruling classes insistence on an identitarian (politics of race, sex, etc) perspective. The ruling class strategy in the US is to decorate with masks of "diversity" the ugly visages of class dominance. Thus Obama's and soon Kamala's pro-ruling class policies cannot be criticized for fear of being abused as a "racist".

Trumpism's non-revolutionary aspect is similar to social democracy, as was championed by Bernie Sanders in 2016 (in 2020 Bernie unfortunately fell to the dark side of identitarian politics, which are necessarily the enemy of class politics and the most effective class warfare tool in the ruling class' tool box). The key difference is that Trumpism relies on labor markets to improve the material conditions of the working class. A tight labor market necessarily transfers wealth from the rich to the poor in the form of decreased profits for the rich through increased salaries for the poor.

In fact far from there being any contradiction between Trumpism and social democracy there is a mutual dependence between them. The public education, health, and support institutions of social democracy are can only be supported and revitalized by a prosperous working class. The key idea of Trumpism is that the state asserts its borders to create labor scarcity. The great problem of Trumpism is that the state is everywhere a tool of ruling class oppression. Borders are the battle lines of the struggle.

Trump the ruler was presented with the greatest gift a border-loving Trumpist politician could ever ask for: Covid-19. But instead of exploiting this crisis like Viktor Orbán did in Hungary, Trump stabbed Trumpism in the back by turning himself into a useless libertarian during the crisis by refusing for example to push a law that requires home manufacturing of all critical supplies and in never closing the borders properly. He acted like a narcissistic clown in the early days of the crisis and deserves to lose just for that reason.

The ruling class response to Trumpism is identitarian politics: noble ruling class lords screaming that the dirty peasants are racist. What the US ruling class must always do is project their racism onto the peasants, who white or black, both suffer economically from racial oppression. Mao Tse-Tung gave this astute analysis of US racism:

In the final analysis, national struggle is a matter of class struggle. Among the whites in the United States, it is only the reactionary ruling circles who oppress the Negro people . They can in no way represent the workers, farmers, revolutionary intellectuals and other enlightened persons who comprise the overwhelming majority of the white people. At present, it is the handful of imperialists headed by the United States, and their supporters, the reactionaries in different countries, who are oppressing, committing aggression against and menacing the overwhelming majority of the nations and peoples of the world. We are in the majority and they are in the minority.

So US racism is fully owned and perpetuated by the ruling class: wealthy oligarchs (including Trump), the media, Wall Street, CIA, FBI, the military industrial complex, multi-national corporations, Silicone Valley Tech, Hollywood, etc. Where there is power there is racism, where there is powerlessness there may be bigotry but not racism. The above lineup of ruling class racists, except for Trump, is the Biden coalition. The ruling class goal is to place an "enlightened person" mask over naked and rapacious ruling class greed and oppression.

Under Biden, globalization will once again increase the pace and amplitude of the immiseration of the working class, resistance to the dominant economic paradigm will only grow on both the progressive left and the popular right. Previously elections in the US were between center left and center right factions fighting for the right to serve the ruling class. Looking at 2020 from a bird's eye perspective, roughly speaking the Biden coalition is most progressives, the center left, and many elements of the center right (elements close to the Bush family). The Trump coalition is portions of the center right and the popular right. The ruling class was going to be fine whatever the result, but a Biden presidency constrained by a GOP Senate is ideal in some ways to the ruling class.

A key strategic objective of the ruling class is to keep the left and right at each other's throats. Trump helped them achieve this rigid politically binary goal despite occasionally flirting with political fluidity during the 2016 campaign where his similarities to Bernie Sanders were unmistakable. In contrast, anti-ruling class progressives and popularists have to find a way to combine their forces and energy in opposition to the ruling class and not in a pointless stalemate of playing "socialists" vs; "fascists", a battle whose only possible winner is the ruling class.

One of the most interesting outcomes of the 2020 election is the specter of Latinos embracing Trumpism. From an economic point of view this makes total sense. Immigration restriction will benefit first and foremost the material conditions of the Latino working class. Also Trump's macho populist persona works well within Latino culture. Not to mention many Latinos despise blacks and so the whole BLM phenomenon helped push Latinos onto the Trump train.

California is a now a de facto one-party state but that conditions are ripe for the rise of a popularist yet macho, Latino based, Trumpist style political faction to oppose the cosmopolitan urban Democratic hegemony. Back in the 60's, Cesar Chavez was endeavoring to increase the QUALITY of Hispanic life in the US by increasing the salaries of farm workers through a strategy of worker scarcity.

Ruling class institutions, threatened by the potential of having portions of their wealth transferred to poor peasants, created an organization called "La Raza" as an alternative to Chavez. La Raza wanted QUANTITY, they wanted more and more Latinos to build up their base of political power.

And all the better if these Latinos stayed poor: not only do their ruling class paymasters stay happy, this would also keep the Latino masses dependent on their identitarian political leaders. So one of the key outcomes of the 2020 election is that in ever larger numbers, Latinos are rejecting Quantity of Latinos and opting for Latino Quality of life.

And so in order to further Trumpism, Trump, who is acting as a fetter upon it, must go. In a sense the Biden presidency will be a reactionary movement in that they will be trying to restore the pre-Trumpism political order. This will only further cement the soundness of Trumpism as an ideology.

But Trump as a leader is a much more mixed bag. New Trumpists will arise, for example Tucker Carlson or podcaster Joe Rogan. 2024 will be a great year for Trumpism because this time Trump will not be running it; and that may allow many progressives to join the train, especially in light of how much hippy punching they are about to endure from the coming Biden synthesis of Neolibs and Neocons.


Tom Pfotzer , November 14, 2020 at 8:49 am

Nice essay. I especially liked the differentiation between Trump and Trumpism.

I'd be interested to hear what your vision of the platform (main objectives) might be for this new Trumpism party.

I still question whether top-down politics of any stripe is really going to address the underlying economic and biosphere issues we're facing. Why? Because:

  1. the top-down political economy is dedicated to maintaining status quo (with emphasis on status & wealth), and
  2. the bottom-up people who want things to change seem to want someone else to do all the changing
  3. most of our big problems arise from the disconnect between what we must do as a species in order to survive and what we're currently, actually doing as individuals

When a Zen-like party emerges, which encourages its adherents to understand themselves, seek "right" action (accurate situational analysis yielding a well-crafted strategy), and do right action, I'll get interested in politics again. For now, we're just treading water in a strong current that's headed to a bad place.

The Zen plan is no panacea, though. That path involves great risk (e.g. lots of failures) and hard work. Pay's not that good, either.

Kasia , November 14, 2020 at 10:02 am

Thank you for your comment!

Top-down vs. bottom-up are not necessarily contradictory and can in successive waves contribute to social change in an increasingly self-reinforcing manner. Bottom-up change influences top-down change (often through the opposition forces' malignant top-down overreaction) which intensifies bottom-down change: so on and so on.

I would describe the main objectives for Trumpist party as the development of "Green Trumpism". The moral imperatives associated with the climate crisis would be used as a catalyst for Trumpist labor scarcity through the means of a Green Reindustrialization. The process of globalization is one where production is severed from consumption. Production is moved to cheap labor countries with terrible environmental standards. Capitalists produce dirtier commodities while increasing their profits. This process must be reversed. If the first world wants to consume then they must produce.

First world population growth is a critical factor in exasperating the climate crisis. All of this growth can be linked to immigration, usually people from low consuming nations moving to high consumption nations. These migration flows must be reversed.

Globalization requires imperialist power to enforce the safe transport of commodities produced in far flung regions of the world. As globalization declines, so will necessarily US imperialism.

This article "Towards a Green Folkhem" influenced much of my thinking on Trumpism, although it is not framed that way in the article

Tom Pfotzer , November 14, 2020 at 11:56 am

yes, bottom-up and top-down would interact, if only the bottom-up was happening. It's not.

The bottom has no political or economic leverage, and isn't navigating to a position of strength. For example, the "bottom" is currently accepting placebo identity-politics as pacifier. The "bottom" is still searching for an "easy button" solution rather than taking a deeper look at oneself and the layout of the chess board at the macro level.

Using the climate crisis as driver for econ change is the Great Hope, and the top 1% is hip to the game. They have and will continue to block meaningful change. Keep in mind that just stopping the daily damage to the environment will render much (most) of our industrial and household infrastructure obsolete. Nobody's ready to take that on, and that's the implication of actually effective Green policy.

Right now, across the political spectrum, "green" consists of "what's convenient" instead of "what's necessary". This is the individual-ethic bankruptcy I've alluded to elsewhere: it's endemic from top 1% to bottom-est of the bottom.

You made a few statements I don't agree with:

"Capitalists have dirtier / more destructive production than (others)." 1st world production is cleaner than in other places, and that 2nd and 3rd world production often happens in non-capitalistic scenarios. Dirty production happens where dirty production is tolerated.

Another statement you made: "globalization has to stop / be reversed". Dunno about that one. Globalization has resulted in production moving to cheapest-input locations. Like China. Globalization will stop only when cost-of-inputs is leveled, and we're decades away from that, and a whole lot more pain for the Developed world. Slow barge, that one.

Your essay doesn't address the effect of automation on household or societal economics. Automation is not a reversible trend, and it's accelerating. The focus on the "where" of production might not yield the HH economic benefits you're hoping for.

Some fairly different strategies need to be developed at the household level in order to address the problems we face. Would you consider using the household as the pivot-point of your new econ strategy rather than using industry and government?

Kasia , November 14, 2020 at 2:50 pm

Americans can exert more power with their consumption choices than their choices at the ballot box. So certainly the household is a crucial pivot point.

Green tariffs can overnight level cost-of-inputs. Climate change provides a powerful moral incentive to co-locate US consumption and production.

Within an environment of worker scarcity, automation is a positive trend and helps lessen inflationary pressures. The problem with the US is that there is not enough automation because of cheap and docile labor. Compare a meat packing plant in Denmark which is highly automated compared to a US plant, which is packed to the brim with cheap imported labor. Much of the Covid crisis in the US and UK is brought about by sweatshop-style working conditions.

The question on automation is that somehow "the people" have to have a slice of the profits and thus benefit from the process. A Yang-style UBI would need to go hand in hand with increased automation.

I agree with the uselessness of the current Green movement. It is typically just used as a tool to attack perceived opponents. But a Green Trumpism would no doubt both address the climate crisis and help alleviate economic inequalities.

howseth , November 14, 2020 at 4:36 pm

"The ruling class was going to be fine whatever the result, but a Biden presidency constrained by a GOP Senate is ideal in some ways to the ruling class."

Yeah – there will be a lot of Biden disappointment amongst Us the majority – this Precariat. A true Green New Deal would offer lots of employment opportunities here in the USA – and would seem ideal for either party to embrace. Divided government won't achieve it – the ruling class – and both parties – with short sighted heads up their asses won't embrace it anyhow.

Regardless, Trumpism seems a fail except for a vast mob angry/scared/confused voters- and some tax break aficionados. It's not just Biden/Harris won't deliver – but Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Ted Cruz, or whichever clever one runs in 2024 , won't deliver either, and Trumps wall is a fiasco. If still effective propaganda..?

It's grotesque to learn that Kamila Harris's relatives are connected to Uber/Lyft. Prop. 22 getting approved in California is another sign of propaganda/big money effectiveness – and We the People being tricked once again. I got lot's of mail showing photos and quotes of regular working people embracing Prop 22 VOTE YES! save our jobs – it passed easily.

Overall: Still glad to see Trump himself out of the White House – the clever SOB.

Code Name D , November 14, 2020 at 7:33 pm

This is a good essay. But I still have a few issues with it.

The key policy aims of Trumpism are worker scarcity and anti-imperialism. Worker scarcity is achieved through immigration restriction and protectionist trade policies. So together, we have the Trumpist Trinity, anti-immigration, trade restriction, and anti-imperialism. This is the ideology that Trump ran on and rode to victory in 2016. This is the idea. Unions exist to create micro-worker scarcity. Borders can be used to create macro-worker scarcity which is far more powerful. And E-verify can be far more effective than a bombastic wall.

I would modify this to say "worker exclusivity", that only a narrow class of workers can be tapped for specific terms of employment. When discussing the subject with those on the rights, they are far more concerned about immigrants "taking their jobs" then they are of building a scarcity of workers to gain a market share over employers. Let's not forget that "Trumpian" is still fervently anti-union, even though this would be a good way of generating "micro scarcity" as you put it. Being anti-union would be counterproductive to worker scarcity.

Assuredly, "worker scarcity" makes a certain degree of sense. And I can easily see how you came to that conclusion. But I fear you still give "trumpisim" too much credit in that they have specific goals that they are attempting to achieve, and thus conceive of logical steps to that goal.

I would argue that the right doesn't have goals in the same perspective as we on the left may seem them. What we might think of as "goals" are better described as ideological commandments that must be obeyed at all cost, and ignoring all consequence. As you noted yourself. Trump's wall would do little to impede immigration. A better e-verify system would be far more effective. So why ignore e-verify while being completely for the wall? Because the wall is a visible simple of defiance against immigration that conservatives can march back and forth in front of brandishing their 2nd amendment right. You can't do that for a government policy.

Trumpism stands in opposition to globalization; whose goal is worker abundance which necessarily drives wages down and increases oligarchic wealth. US led imperialism, especially in the Middle East is also a necessary feature of globalization.

Here too I would make a modification. Neo-liberalism and globalization aren't about worker "abundance" but rather worker "disposability." Again, if the idea is to create an abundance of workers, driving down market share, then why make finding work so complicated? Why be against strong education systems which would create new workers. Why shut down factories here in the US only to open them in Korea? Why lock up so many Americans for petty offensive, removing them from the willing work force.

I would argue that the heart of neo-liberalism is a class structure that places "the establishment" as not just important in the grand scheme of things, but completely indispensable to an individual. And part of that self-aggrandizement is the subjection of every one else. "I am worth more than a thousand of you." Thus, why I must get 2-million-dollar bonus (even after bankrupting the company) and a post on the new re-org chart while everyone else gets a pink slip and watch their hard-earned pensions disappear in chapter 11 proceedings.

Of course, unlike much of the right, neo-liberalism does have a goal-oriented methodology. So, creating "worker abundance" to force down individual worker market share certainly makes sense. But is it true? It doesn't capture the full cynicism of typical neo-liberal thinking. For creating so much worker abundance, plenty of neo-liberal aligned employers still managed to complain about worker "allocations" (the idea that certain employment sectors face chronic worker scarcity.) Indeed, current "plug-n-play" employment patterns have made filling many positions nearly impossible because no one ever has the right qualifications for a specific job without training. I have seen engineering jobs go empty for years because they can't find "prior experience for proprietary development project." (face palm.).

But it does speak to how disposable workers are to upper management. You are hired for X, and when X is done you are automatically laid off. Why would you waste time giving such an employee training of any sort? Let alone benefits or perks.

Kasia , November 15, 2020 at 6:16 am

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I will attempt to respond to your points.

Ruling class elements of the GOP attack unions in order to minimize worker micro-scarcity.

What is inexplicable is when unions attack Trumpist attempts at macro-scarcity through the use of national borders. A united Union/Trumpist front is required against ruling class interests. Struggling for worker scarcity does not mean one "hates" the workers the ruling class is importing in order to create worker abundance.

This is to accept the ruling elite's identitarian frame, which boils down to: class struggle is racist. What this basically boils down to is that the ruling class is benevolent and kind and loves purely altruistically to import little brown workers while evil workers hate them because they are taking their jobs. Oligarchs + cheap labor immigrants = good. Workers militating for their class interests = bad. The key goal for Trumpism is to flip these equations.

Worker abundance necessarily means job scarcity from the worker's point of view. This makes workers desperate and willing to accept lower wages. This has been happening for the last 40 years at least since the end of the Cold War, if not a little sooner. Worker scarcity means job abundance, from the worker's point of view. This means plenty of options because management has to bid up salaries to attract workers.

Neoliberalism is Capitalism's attempt to remove the fetters on profits that exist within the power of a nation-state. Worker abundance is just one of many Neoliberal goals. Borders are a huge fetter to capitalism's basic mission of maximizing profit by producing commodifies with the cheapest labor and selling them to the wealthiest consumers.

Nation-states can also impose regulations (environmental, worker, etc) which also limit capitalist profit. Free trade allows corporations to relocate factories to nations with the lowest salaries, environmental and worker protections. For those jobs that cannot be transferred, Prop 22 is the thin edge of the neoliberal wedge that is constraining the nation-state from protecting workers.

flora , November 14, 2020 at 8:59 pm

I understand restricting immigration and anti-globalism as a means to increase US workers leverage in raising wages in jobs and in better political representation. This addresses the physical world of work.

Left unaddressed, and equally important imo, is the fact that US business and economy is now largely financialized; much of the greatest wealth comes from unregrulated or restrained predatory financial practices, from rentierism, from tolls and fines and fees.

This financialization is every bit as important as the physical conditions you list in the rise in precarity, maybe even more so at this time. How, for instance, would only physical restrictions have changed the financial outcomes of the 2008 mortgage bank frauds and financial crisis, the outcomes of ratings agencies giving bogus ratings to junk bonds, changed the exorbitant rise in medicine prices, etc?

This is a very important aspect of precarity. Reducing work competition for jobs to increase wages is only half the job, stopping financial predators is the other half, imo

O could have stopped the bank predators in 2009-10, but chose not to. In his own words:

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1327776212492701697

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:08 pm

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Without immigration or outsourcing or even automation, the predators will find still other ways to break labor. We are seeing it with identity politics.

Beware of the UBI: it simply greases the wheels for more privatization instead of public goods and infrastructure, similar to how vouchers and charters gut a public school system.

Kasia , November 15, 2020 at 7:37 am

Financialization is the necessary result of globalization's destruction of Fordism: which is the interdependent role of worker and consumer. In order to increase profits, Ford doubled his workers' salaries so that could serve him as consumers as well as workers.

Globalization seeks to increase profits even further by disassociating the worker and the consumer. Work is off-shored to low wage countries, whose leaders intentionally damp down local consumption. This paradoxically means the soon to be immiserated western worker is still called upon to play the role of global consumer of last resort.

At the same time, huge waves of profits are washing over Wall Street. And so temporary speculative bubbles are created that serve two purposes. First false wave of prosperity brought on for example by a real estate boom tamps down any worker resistance towards the new economic order. Secondly the seemingly "free money" created by speculation allow western consumption to continue.

So necessarily a Green Reindustrialization will force Wall Street to stop chasing speculative squirrels and to instead concentrate on financing the new clean plant that will help alleviate the climate crisis.

Reverb , November 14, 2020 at 9:44 pm

Rogan likes to do long form interviews across the political spectrum, but he has consistently been a fan of Bernie and Tulsi. Author is Confusing the medium with the message. Not the same.

Kasia , November 15, 2020 at 5:56 am

I would argue that Bernie and Tulsi are "Trumpism adjacent" in the larger sense of Trumpism.

If Trumpism as an ideology is going to flourish, Tulsi in particular will play a critical role in this. The simplest way to see this is that when the ruling class smears someone as a "Russian asset" what they are really doing is recognizing them as a Trumpist threat.

Trumpism in its highest form will mean a reconciliation of the non-identitarian left and right. For example, white identitarians like Richard Spencer have abandoned Trumpism.

Altandmain , November 15, 2020 at 6:03 am

Awesome comment!

I think that one of the most important considerations is that there needs to be a coalition of sorts – between the working class Trumpian base and the Left (primarily Generation Y and X). It shares one thing, they are both victims of the Establishment, neoliberals, and urgently need change.

One image has always been very important to me. Note the distribution of socially conservative, economically left wing voters.

https://www.voterstudygroup.org/assets/i/reports/Graphs-Charts/1101/figure2_drutman_73d3873f90a694512aeeb56e0ab92cfa.png

It comes from here: https://www.voterstudygroup.org/publication/political-divisions-in-2016-and-beyond

The other important issue is this one:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/10/marshall-auerback-democrats-globalization-dilemma.html

The major challenge facing Democrats today is that race, gender, identity politics, and religion appear to trump economics, at least as far as politically engaged primary voters go. The old-line Democrats were an economic liberal party with socially conservative and socially liberal wings (the social liberals, in fact, were in a minority). The new Democrats are a socially liberal party with an economic conservative wing (neoliberals) and a progressive economic wing. They all agree on social issues. They are loath to compromise on open borders (which is what the existing immigration dysfunction de facto gives us), transgender bathrooms, making room for pro-life members, or gay married couples' wedding cakesbecause those are the only issues that hold their economic right and economic left together.

I don't think that the Democratic Party in its current form is viable for the left.

So the price of a new New Deal majority would be to let Democrats welcome abortion critics and opponents of mass immigration, so long as they favored a higher minimum wage, less "synthetic immigration," and a pause on globalization (which facilitates international labor arbitrage). In the words of John Judis:

I think that we would end up with the following compromise.

1. The economically left, culturally right agrees to accept global warming, end the wars, and "socialism" like universal healthcare), and to offer legal immigrants along with minorities a shot at the middle class
2. The economically left, culturally left agrees to compromise on immigration, globalization (think put a strong emphasis on re-industrialization and de-financialization), and social issues (think abortion, guns, defend the police, etc).

Interestingly, the American Conservative has an article lambasting Trump as well.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/for-trumpism-but-skeptical-of-trump/

Maybe that's a good sign.

marym , November 15, 2020 at 7:39 am

"The ruling class goal is to place an "enlightened person" mask over naked and rapacious ruling class greed and oppression."

Maybe the same can be said of placing a "socially conservative" mask. We need to be cautious in positing the possiblility of a multi-ethnic, multi-racial conservative movement that somehow manages to be "nationalist, anti-cosmopolitan, anti-immigration" but still serves the interests of the multi-racial, multi-ethnic, religiously diverse, working class populace that's already here.

Kasa , November 15, 2020 at 9:51 am

Implementing worker scarcity will necessarily further the economic interests of the multi-racial, multi-ethnic, religiously diverse, working class populace that's already here.

Just as implementing worker abundance necessarily furthers the economic interests of the multi-racial, multi-ethnic, religiously diverse, RULING class populace that's already here.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 11:26 pm

Well put

rob , November 15, 2020 at 10:08 am

Great write up.
While I generally agree with your characterizations, I will also throw out there ..in no particular order..
1) luckily , trump and his "legion of doom" aren't competent enough to draw on the "larger picture" you've outlined here to maximize his effectiveness by using these natural advantages, in their plot of self aggrandizement luckily for us americans/ the trump is his own worst enemy.

2) ejecting trump from trumpism is a path to greater success for the right and fascism/corporatism, which some "smart" people will surely weave into their future plans and models. And the corporatists,be they from the republican side of the aisle, or the democratic side will surely carry forward with this opening in american politics.
because trump does have to go the professionals of deception can mold that wisp of smoke into any shape they want but it won't stay for long and doesn't hold up to any scrutiny . it isn't real..It isn't even a chunk of clay

3] the problem of trumpism, or "conservative republican politics", or "democratic party politics" is that they all necessarliy MUST be a lie in progress. NONE of the political duopoly can go into "truthland" . it is their kryptonite. So all have agreed to never enter and call it a no go zone
And the fact that everything about our political situation is "fact free",at least in the sense that any facts used are only used out of context to keep a truer understanding from happening; hasn't stopped anyone yet and isn't likely too any time soon so too bad for everyone. .we'll call that a draw.
The 30,000 foot description of yours not withstanding, that type of over arching layers of this onion, is something for planners to incorporate in "the con" as it needs to be.. but is above the paygrade of most political actors , who work at rousing the rabble

4) I don't see actual agency of the people . what people want to do has nothing to do with what is going to happen usually, if the elites want something to happen, they provide the opinions and the votes.. "deserve" has nothing to do with it.. and "our reality" is just an illusion.
So over layering a description of bigger forces, over the chaos that has been created to keep this "hegelian dialect" in place , is again for those at a higher pay grade in the process..
Too many chefs ruin the meal but hey ,it's our gruel and we have nothing else to eat , for the moment and maybe less later, if they get their way.

Palaver , November 14, 2020 at 6:24 am

"Post-truth" is dystopian. It's a luxury to live at a distance from unpleasant realities. If a society can sustain a population/segment so far up their own **** then you've "arrived" in a sense.

However, dystopia sounds better than the crises that lay ahead. It's the unavoidable hard landing that worries me.

Maybe truth works like wealth: The first generation discovers the truth. The second generation teaches the truth. And the third generation fakes news.

Altandmain , November 14, 2020 at 6:57 am

The Democratic Party doesn't want to come to terms with the fact that they deserve as much blame as the GOP for the predicament the working class finds itself in.

They chose under Clinton to repeal Glass Steagall, sign free trade agreements, and bring China into the WTO. Under Obama, those policies largely continued. Under Biden, all signs indicate that this will still continue.

I think the brutal reality is that the upper middle class is willfully ignorant of what the precariat faces. Public health authorities, while understandably trying to contain the pandemic, are not the ones who are going to see their lives destroyed. The working class was doomed either way, either by being disproportionately hurt by the coronavirus (they can't work from home) or from long-term unemployment (they've suffered more as a percentage of total jobs lost). In other words, they don't have a stake in keeping the lockdown and may see opening up as a lesser evil.

Likewise, the Liberals who are in secure upper middle class white collar jobs tended to act disdainfully when working class people protested the lockdowns. I'm not saying the protestors were right, but many are people who put their lives into their work, such as small business owners. Evidently, subsidies were needed at the very least.

In this regard, the GOP might have more hope than the Democrats, barring a Berniecrat takeover of the Democrats, which is looking less likely. That said the GOP still has a huge right wing apparatus that would have to be overcome for a "real populist" (ex: someone who actually cared about the well being of the working class) to take over.

One advantage might be that younger people are overwhelmingly left wing economically, so as Generation Y and Z become a bigger share of the electorate, things may change.

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 6:00 pm

Likewise, the Liberals who are in secure upper middle class white collar jobs tended to act disdainfully when working class people protested the lockdowns. I'm not saying the protestors were right, but many are people who put their lives into their work, such as small business owners. Evidently, subsidies were needed at the very least

To this day, they still get outraged for the same reasons. If you so much as point out what you just wrote–not being anti-science but simply the hardship lockdowns cause and how it needs to be properly addressed–at best you'll be called scientifically illiterate. At worst you'll be accused of being an evil rich person who wants to kill grandma to make the stock market go up.

While some of the protests may have been astroturf, not all of them were. If you're a small-business owner facing the prospect of losing everything you've worked for and basically being told "you're on own" of course you will be angry. Likewise, if you're an employee and can't work from home, of course you will be stressed out about losing your job. This is the real "economic anxiety" and it is no laughing matter.

rob , November 15, 2020 at 7:36 am

for the real small business owners, and the individuals who can't work .
they ought to feel pissed
after all . a fraction of the trillions that are earmarked for wall street, could have "paid their bills"..at least for a year . and then the "citizens" would be getting something tangible for the debt being incurred in their name by the duopoly.
All the people realizing "someone" is getting bailed out and it isn't them

is this 2009 or 2020?

Bob Hertz , November 14, 2020 at 7:02 am

I was puzzled by the victory of Prop. 22 in California. This is a state which has huge Democratic majorities, and normally rubber-stamps all union-sponsored legislation.

Uber and Lyft threatened that if Prop. 22 did not pass, they would either stop operations or would lay off 75% of their temp workers.
(not unlike an employer threatening to move to China if their workers form a union.)

They also threatened that ride prices would at least double, and wait times would greatly increase.

The average voter may have put their own self-interest ahead of any class loyalty.

Final note: the gig workers did get a few benefits out of AB 5, things granted by Uber and Lyft to buy some goodwill.

Comments welcome! I do not live in CA so I am just guessing on this. It was an important vote.

lyman alpha blob , November 14, 2020 at 11:01 am

Prop 22 is going to be the most important result of the 2020 election, not Trump v Biden or control of either legislature.

I've been very puzzled by the result too as it passed handily and wasn't really close. I don't live near CA either, but I did read that among other misleading tactics, the Prop 22 proponents gave delivery bags to restaurants that use these gig delivery services so that the delivery drivers would be dropping off meals to people in Yes on 22 bags, which made it seem like prop 22 would be beneficial to gig workers if you didn't look into it much.

So on the one hand there was the intent to deceive. But then I think that if I heard about these dirty tricks 3,000 miles away, surely CA voters must have known about them too.

The depressing thing is that maybe a lot of people did know exactly what Prop 22 was all about and decided they liked the idea of a permanent underclass always only minutes away at the touch of a button to do the things they can't be bothered with for a pittance.

The fact that so many of the gig company execs worked first in the Obama administration and are now heading back to the Biden administration with dreams of scaling up prop 22 is a very ominous portent.

John Wright , November 14, 2020 at 2:53 pm

I voted NO on prop 22, but a mailer I received from the YES side may show why it passed.

It has text with "by 4-to-1, app-based drivers overwhelmingly prefer to work as independent contractors".

The pictures of smiling workers on the mailer are all minorities (Asian, Hispanic, Black).

I'd suggest a small percentage of CA voters actually use Uber/Lyft, so am inclined to believe voters did not vote to preserve their own self-interest.

The "YES" mailer lists 5 advantages for the drivers, "guaranteed hourly earnings for app-based drivers", "per mile compensation toward vehicle expenses", "medical and disability coverage for injuries and illnesses", "new health benefits for drivers who work 15+ hours a week", and "additional safety protections for app-based drivers"

The mailer lists groups supporting it, NAACP, California Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Consumer Choice Center, The Latin Business Association, Black Women Organized for Political Action, California Small Business Association, California Senior Advocates League.

I remember a prior YES on 22 mailer had support from Mothers Against Drunk Driving..

The "YES" group spent about 12x more than the No group (188 million vs 15million)

https://abc7.com/22-california-prop-2020-ca-what-is/7585005/

"Proposition 22 has become the most expensive measure in California history with over $204 million contributed to this single issue"

A side effect of this campaign is to show the value of political consultants/advertising to get something passed.

If Uber/Lyft eventually fail, as many dotcoms did years ago, Prop 22 may be a toxic legacy for them to pass on to other businesses.

To summarize, it is possible many of the voting public believed they were actually helping the pictured workers by voting "YES".

JBird4049 , November 14, 2020 at 8:47 pm

I saw a lot of pro Prop 22 advertising and nothing against it. The ads were all sleek, full of cheerful drivers with big smiles, and easily the best made ads of 2020. I knew that there was something bad about the proposition, but until just a few days before the election I couldn't tell you why. All my mental bandwidth was on the national elections and not on parsing the various state propositions like I normally would. This time it was all on something else.

If a poli-sci/poli-econ geek like me was having some problems with truly understanding this extremely effective, slickly made campaign of manufactured consent, what does that say about the many, often financially and/or socially overwhelmed, California voters who would be much like me? I think that the overlords had the perfect situation for getting the proposition passed.

James P. , November 14, 2020 at 7:14 am

"but the (GOP) party needs to reverse its positions on taxing the wealthiest, punishing and preventing the expansion of organized labor, reversing their position on outsourcing manufacturing, and addressing economic precarity"

And I need to become 6'4″, handsome, young and athletic.

edmondo , November 14, 2020 at 8:43 am

All they need to do is fake it. The Dems won't even bother to do that.

Who knows? AOC might be running against Chuck Schumer as a Republican in 10 years.

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 10:16 am

Indeed why would they reverse when the Dems agree with them on all of it. What the above article doesn't get is that the true ruling class response to precarity is simply to make sure voters have no options to address it. We are in a class war, not a battle between political parties. Any promises Biden made to the poor will blow away like smoke once in office. He is on the record saying that billionaires are swell folks.

Lambert linked an interesting article yesterday in Water Cooler that talked about cycles in history and the ingredients of high social unrest. The subject is historian Peter Turchin

He has been warning for a decade that a few key social and political trends portend an "age of discord," civil unrest and carnage worse than most Americans have experienced. In 2010, he predicted that the unrest would get serious around 2020, and that it wouldn't let up until those social and political trends reversed. Havoc at the level of the late 1960s and early '70s is the best-case scenario; all-out civil war is the worst.

The fundamental problems, he says, are a dark triad of social maladies: a bloated elite class, with too few elite jobs to go around; declining living standards among the general population; and a government that can't cover its financial positions.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/can-history-predict-future/616993/

Turchin is saying that social instability is not just the result of high inequality but also of a bloated ruling class that is itself insecure because there aren't enough PMC jobs for all those college graduates and their credentials. Thus in our case the political parties have come to be dominated by these middle class concerns with the poor almost entirely out of the picture and dismissed as racist deplorables who probably deserve their fate. As the article says this sociological theory of history is controversial but at least worth considering.

JBird4049 , November 14, 2020 at 9:01 pm

A good, broad, liberal arts degree, or something like it, can be useful in many kinds of jobs, if the jobs exist . Much of the high skilled, high paying jobs have all been shipped overseas, and the remaining good paying jobs increasingly are office jobs requiring not only a masters degree, but good social connections, and at least saying only goodthoughts to get and keep.

It use to be that there was plenty of diverse work. If you failed at getting tenure or that job at the bank, or the government position you wanted, there was plenty of good work requiring only some education, intelligence, and drive. Having the kind of degree and connections that someone in the modern PMC would merely be very useful, not a requirement for a good life. Bur now we have too many people having the exact education needed to get the few remaining good jobs in the few safe fields, and unlike fifty years, failure means destitution, not disappointment.

Amfortas the hippie , November 15, 2020 at 11:52 am

"We are in a class war, not a battle between political parties."

the number one confusion in american politics.
i'ma paint it on my tailgate.

JBird4049 , November 15, 2020 at 10:07 pm

And yet claiming that this class war exist, which is supposedly immiserating increasing numbers of Americans ever higher up the class chain, is all deplorably racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic I am reliable informed. /s

It is unsettling to see writers who I have been reading for years, even decades, start saying that it is racism or bigotry, and only that, which explains the Bad Man. One doesn't have to be a Marxist to make a connection with the increasing poverty and corruption under both parties over the past forty or fifty years with President Trump. Yet, many refuse to.

It does make me wonder what it is that I am blind to.

rob , November 16, 2020 at 8:30 am

I agree,
the class war is a better way of seeing things.
all the symptoms and externalities the class war provides are the things the parties use as fodder issues for their respective bases but all the duopoly can provide is more of the same . "their way" their culture . their rules . their precedents their history..
this is how they seem to win they teach the children to think their" way".
Then what else will happen in the future
people continually adopting patterns that already exist.
They have created a culture . and we all know how people are treated by their neighbors who are "counter-culture"
It becomes a self reinforcing narrative, where the hive keeps the status quo because they want to .
We keep supporting systems that are there to control us rather than recreating systems that help .. like we are "supposed" to or something.

DJG , November 14, 2020 at 11:04 am

James P. Yep. That paragraph has some giant "ifs" in it that caught my eye as I was reading. The likelihood of Republicans sponsoring legislation to repeal "right to work" laws, which tend to be in Republican-dominated states, is almost nil. Further, a party that is opposed to any tax increases, no matter what need has to be addressed, isn't going to change course. Another "if" is relying on someone like the egregious Tom Cotton, as mentioned, for leadership about legislation.

I am sure, though, that you are already on your way to becoming a beefcake model and internet influencer.

zagonostra , November 14, 2020 at 7:56 am

It's going to take some time for this article to sink in. Words like precariat and precarity are fairly new concepts, at least for me and my automatic spell checker. What is the etymology of this word and what are it's conceptual dimensions. I know what precarious means and I can see how using it as an adjective works. But if it's going to be a key term I want to know more about it. Accordiing to a quick search, the etymology is:

precarious (adj.)
1640s, a legal word, "held through the favor of another," from Latin precarius "depending on favor, pertaining to entreaty, obtained by asking or praying," from prex (genitive precis) "entreaty, prayer" (from PIE root *prek- "to ask, entreat").

The notion of "dependent on the will of another" led to the extended sense "risky, dangerous, hazardous, uncertain" (1680s), but this was objected to. "No word is more unskillfully used than this with its derivatives. It is used for uncertain in all its senses; but it only means uncertain, as dependent on others " [Johnson]. Related: Precariously; precariousness.

So what is striking in reading it's etymology is that it is defined as something "dependent, uncertain, risky, dangerous, hazardous." This characterizes many areas of life. With respect to contemporary life in the area of economics, I certainly see it all around me and in the news headlines, in the instability of good long-term paying jobs with benefits. In politics, I certainly see the risks, dangers, and hazards, especially in the highly militarized nature of foreign relations. But looking at the term from the perspective of a "social scientist" does it explain the antecedents that lead to this condition and is it operational in the sense of breaking it down into more rudimentary terms and relationships.

I am reading St. Thomas Aquinas' book "On Truth" and although the style of Questiones Disputatae , with its contra, sed contra, and style is archaic and hard to follow, it provides a good way of centering dialogue. In Question one of Article 1, the formal reply to the stated Article of "What is Truth?" states:

When investigating the nature of anything, one should make the same kind of analysis as he makes when he reduces a proposition to certain self-evident principles."

Since this term "precarity" is new to me, I don't think I have a good handle on how to use it outside of a descriptor. Does it explain anything? And maybe I'm just asking too much of the word. Maybe it's just meant as that, a simple characterization whose underlying causal relationships are to yet be determined and examined.

Anyhow, great article.

thoughtful person , November 15, 2020 at 1:34 pm

I've seen precariate be described as a combination of precarious proletariat.

While one could argue the position of the proletariat is always precarious, I do think the are times in history which are more precarious than others, and what we see now is certainly one (climate change impacts, opioid/alcoholism, covid19 pandemic, ever increasing inequality, globalization of manufacturing, health care for profit in the US, increasing cost of housing and education, no doubt many more)

Terry Flynn , November 14, 2020 at 8:36 am

Nice piece generally and which kinda validates a feeling I've had generally that "uncertainty is increasing" which is often bad for people in so many ways – uncertainty among the "entitled" can be highly damaging to polling (in addition to all the points raised in the article). The elephant in the room is of course interpreting polling results. For example 70% Democrat at a precinct/state/national level is consistent with an infinite number of explanations: at one end we have "strong means" (meaning these are "solid" votes) and at the other we have "very weak means but big variances" (meaning these votes are subject to all sorts of factors like news items, real or manufactured, etc). We can't "know" which universe we're in .Unless we conduct a secondary survey to give a "second line in the x-y plane" to see where it intersects the main one ..then we know whether the 70% is driven by means or variances or some combination.

The likelihood function for all "limited dependent variable models" – discrete choices like voting – has a term that is multiplicative in means and variances. Thus "70%" could mean any of a HUGE number of things. Those of us experienced in interpreting these data can rule out the "dumb" explanations .but we are still left with a number of "possible explanations". If we don't actively talk to voters, do a lot of qualitative research etc, then we can't begin to limit the number of "possible solutions" further. I have had little experience in applying the methods to polling so I rely a lot on sites like NC to give "insights from the ground". It is a pity polling institutions don't. YouGov were on the right track in 2017 but bottled it due to collecting data for their "second line" in a poor way. It's a pity – if they collected data in better way they'd be far and away the best polling organisation. Though the downright lies told by Trumpites that Lambert has highlighted remain a problem – I do have ideas how to address this but they go way beyond the scope of the site and like I've said before, I think pushing MMT etc is a better use of resources (even though it pains me personally not to have my own "hobby horse" championed, hehe).

But I personally think increased variances are a fact of life and reflect the article's point that uncertainty in life is hurting everyone.

Tom Pfotzer , November 14, 2020 at 12:03 pm

Uncertainty and fear are increasing because the kick-the-can strategies are starting to look really wobbly, and the fights for survival and hail-marys (like MMT) are being trotted out.

The velocity of change has increased, and the rate of adaptation appears to have somehow actually slowed down. Just exactly the wrong response at the wrong time.

One commenter above poked fun at the term "precarity" – said it was a $10 gimmick for the word "poor".

A while back Mark Twain said a "cauliflower is a cabbage with a college education".

Precarity is a college-educated middle class "information worker" who is "feeling poor".

The effects of automation and globalization are moving up the class ladder. The ship's sinking and the water's already flooded 3rd class berths (rust belt and flyover), and is about 1/3 of the way into the 2nd class cabins.

Scott1 , November 14, 2020 at 3:54 pm

Hunger.

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 6:11 pm

Agree or disagree with Andrew's Yang's proposal for a universal basic income, I think he is definitely on to something when he talks about the ramifications of automation and machine learning, though he isn't the first person to point it out.

Some people are simply not aware–it's not that they necessarily don't care, they simply just don't know–while others are in denial or don't care.

Regardless of where a given person falls, I do agree that with Yang and others that say dealing with this economic reshaping will be of the key challenges–if not the most important challenge–of our time.

rob , November 15, 2020 at 7:57 am

reshaping our monetary system is one of the biggest hurdles in reshaping our economic present.
Monetary reform efforts like the modern day "chicago plan" as was described in the bill proposed in congress in 2011/2012 112th congress HR 2990
open the door to creating money debt free, and permanently which could pay off the national debt, and fund policies like single payer health care and even "citizen dividends", that are really just ways to inject money into the economy, rather than starting the injection of money into the economy on wall street , like now..
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112-thcongress/house-bill/2990/text

Bob Hertz , November 14, 2020 at 9:19 am

This was a very perceptive observation ..

In sharp contrast, Trump may have appeared indifferent to the gravity of the coronavirus, but his persistent calls to reopen the economy addressed the precarity issue, as they appealed to many workers whose livelihoods were being destroyed by the pandemically induced government restrictions placed on economic activity.

The average worker up through October does not have Covid and may not know anyone of working age who does have Covid ..but they do have a job, and if the job must be done in-person they know they were vulnerable.

"Keeping the economy open" is more urgent to them than defeating Covid through lockdowns.

This is a big reason why Trump even kept this election close.

In America, the authorities who order lockdowns cannot simultaneously order financial relief. This created a tragic class divide on fighting the pandemic.

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 10:31 am

These days the members of the media tend to be dominated by the upper middle class who attended elite colleges and probably don't even understand the meaning of precarity. Therefore to them it seems perverse to object to lockdowns and elaborate precautions that the work from home set can more easily deal with. In the old days newspaper reporters rose through the ranks and came from small town newspapers and were more in touch with the general society rather than journalism schools.

Socal Rhino , November 14, 2020 at 10:18 am

I live in California and was surprised to learn here that Harris opposed prop 22. While the Pro campaign carpet bombed the airwaves with ads, I never saw any CA leaders raise a voice in opposition or attempt to explain why this would be bad for working people. Never saw any mention, other than in the state election booklet, that the prop introduced a huge supermajority needed to repeal it, making it effectively impossible to remove once passed. Didn't see any out of state money funding ads despite it being obvious that success in California would lead to adoption in other states.

lyman alpha blob , November 14, 2020 at 11:05 am

Well Harris does all support and oppose M4A depending on who shes talking to and when she's saying it, so there's that. I suspect any disagreements she may express over prop 22's passage are crocodile tears at best.

lyman alpha blob , November 14, 2020 at 11:06 am

Ugh – meant as a reply to social rhino above.

Socal Rhino , November 14, 2020 at 2:06 pm

Her and every other leader who takes positions on many issues but not on this one. Perhaps they saw polling and thought it best instead to add to the strategic underground reserves of dry powder.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 11:15 am

Great piece. One effect of spreading precarity–and I will use the term more loosely to encompass not only economic precarity, but also the increasing sense of pervasive dread and fear experienced by so many across all walks of life–is that living in this state increases one's susceptibility to both totalitarian ideologies and to drives for war against some perceived enemy. To me this explains the shadow of "law and order" hard nationalism coming from the far right, the more extreme variants of identity politics on the left, and the terrified push for censorship and "full lockdown" coming from the neoliberal center. Unfortunately the billionaire class and their pets in the media see all of this as a potential cash cow rather than a serious danger. Given their stranglehold on the national discourse and their control of the most effective means of mass organizing (social media), I'm not sure it is possible to reverse the trend early enough to prevent some kind of major conflict. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try!

Person , November 14, 2020 at 11:24 am

P.S. To avoid any confusion, when I disparagingly refer to "full lockdown" I mean an authoritarian lockdown without accompanying benefits for workers and with "papers please" checkpoints and penalties. The worst kind of lockdown, where people are both unable to support themselves and are actively prevented from doing so. In my opinion people who push for a hard lockdown before benefits/compensation can be arranged are unintentionally advocating for such a position; the compensation will never come.

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 6:17 pm

Heck, I've seen comments (generally not on this site) admiring what China did and lamenting the fact that it can't be done here in the United States.

I sure hope these are troll accounts and not real people in this country, especially not real people on the left. If these are real people, we are in more trouble than I thought.

A government with the power to literally weld people's door shut, which is what China did, can do a lot of other scary things.

witters , November 14, 2020 at 10:17 pm

Yes, like get on top of a virus (and achieve the highest level of economic growth in human history, and produce incredible poetry, and so on). And as I'm not 'in this country,' I believe I'm not 'real people.'

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:17 pm

You mean like droning hellfire onto children?

Person , November 14, 2020 at 10:43 pm

I have seen the same thing and have had the same concerns. I do think there is more dishonest disruption/manipulation and trolling going on than we are aware of. It's at the point where I automatically assume that most social media accounts are not taking an honest position. I hope I'm right, because if I'm wrong then humanity is absolutely terrifying.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 2:01 am

The corporate imperialism status quo isn't terrifying enough for you? Oil and gas seeping out through the land under and around "affordable housing" because CEQA doesn't count on those properties doesn't terrify you? Flint's water crisis doesn't terrify you?

The throngs of human beings thrown out onto the street by Upgrading slumlords and developers doesn't terrify you? Overlords talking with straight faces about excess and surplus humans and ramming Prop 22 through doesn't terrify you?

Person , November 15, 2020 at 10:26 am

There's a big difference between "humanity is OK, but the small slice that rules us is terrible" and "humanity is in deep shit because we're mostly terrible." The first implies a solution, the second what? Hope for a benevolent AI overlord to emerge?

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 10:31 am

Humanity is mostly terrible because people online are glad that China used authority to stop the spread of a deadly virus? Shaking my head!

Person , November 15, 2020 at 6:20 pm

Read my post again. I said that I automatically assume that most accounts posting terrible stuff are bots. There are accounts that say awful things about almost any and every topic imaginable. The number of them is so huge that if these are real people and not bots, then people may indeed be largely terrible. But I assume they are bots.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 5:29 pm

https://popularresistance.org/affordable-housing-developers-set-their-sights-on-former-toxic-oil-fields/
DeSmog blog
Vista Hermosa residents like Luna are troubled by a 2019 environmental rollback by the state, AB1197, that exempts homeless housing developments in the City of Los Angeles from the mandates of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). Arguably California's broadest environmental law, CEQA requires builders to assess the environmental impacts of new development and find ways to avoid or mitigate them.

The political will to rollback CEQA has continued into 2020. In January, Assemblyman Miguel Santiago, who represents District 53 bordering Vista Hermosa, introduced a new piece of legislation, AB1907, to further expand CEQA exemptions to now include all affordable housing.

lobelia , November 14, 2020 at 11:41 am

I'm reminded of the excellent post by Anne Amnesia in May 2016, (yes, when Obama and Biden were still in office, and the White House was just a huge gleam in Kamala's way too sparkly eyes, given the massive poverty, incarceration and inequality in California, as she successfully ran for California Senator and will have not completed even one term) Unnecessariat https://morecrows.wordpress.com/2016/05/10/unnecessariat/

A very brief excerpt (it's long and meaty), emphasis mine:

In 2011, economist Guy Standing coined the term "precariat" to refer to workers whose jobs were insecure, underpaid, and mobile, who had to engage in substantial "work for labor" to remain employed, whose survival could, at any time, be compromised by employers (who, for instance held their visas) and who therefore could do nothing to improve their lot. The term found favor in the Occupy movement, and was colloquially expanded to include not just farmworkers, contract workers, "gig" workers, but also unpaid interns, adjunct faculty, etc. Looking back from 2016, one pertinent characteristic seems obvious: no matter how tenuous, the precariat had jobs. The new dying Americans, the ones killing themselves on purpose or with drugs, don't. Don't, won't, and know it.

Here's the thing: from where I live, the world has drifted away. We aren't precarious, we're unnecessary. The money has gone to the top. The wages have gone to the top. The recovery has gone to the top. And what's worst of all, everybody who matters seems basically pretty okay with that. The new bright sparks, cheerfully referred to as "Young Gods" believe themselves to be the honest winners in a new invent-or-die economy, and are busily planning to escape into space or acquire superpowers, and instead of worrying about this, the talking heads on TV tell you its all a good thing- don't worry, the recession's over and everything's better now, and technology is TOTES AMAZEBALLS!

The Rent-Seeking Is Too Damn High

If there's no economic plan for the Unnecessariat, there's certainly an abundance for plans to extract value from them. No-one has the option to just make their own way and be left alone at it. It used to be that people were uninsured and if they got seriously sick they'd declare bankruptcy and lose the farm, but now they have a (mandatory) $1k/month plan with a $5k deductible: they'll still declare bankruptcy and lose the farm if they get sick, but in the meantime they pay a shit-ton to the shareholders of United Healthcare, or Aetna, or whoever. This, like shifting the chronically jobless from "unemployed" to "disabled" is seen as a major improvement in status, at least on television.

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm

They're busy transhuman-ing so of course they see these people on the street as excess meat.

View from California , November 14, 2020 at 12:24 pm

I was surprised Prop 22 passed because it was not doing well in the polls for most of the pre-election period. It seemed Californians were solidly against it. Then, perhaps 4-6 weeks before the election, I noticed a dramatic change in messaging. Suddenly the ads were touting that if Prop 22 passed, Uber and Lyft drivers would receive health care benefits. I assumed that this was deceptive messaging designed to turn the vote around. Here is what Kaiser Health News says about the benefits: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201029/App-based-companies-pushing-Prop-22-say-drivers-will-get-health-benefits-Will-they.aspx Looks like it worked. I guess there's no penalty for this sort of deception, or at least, no enforcement of a penalty.

tegnost , November 14, 2020 at 4:05 pm

Tell me lies .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVY5mqpE4g

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 12:40 pm

So, I have CSPAN on at the moment. They're streaming the DC #MillionMAGAMarch #StopTheSteal SuperSpreader rally.

The over-the-top vitriol is rather breathtaking. The angry ignorance is depressing. They're "not gonna allow the Steal." They're gonna "be warriors." "Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! "

The Occam's Chainsaw "logic" is on full display.

Meanwhile, yesterday's new U.S. Covid19 case count was more than 184k, 1.6m for Nov 1-13.

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 12:52 pm

Says here 58k which is quite a bit below US daily new cases over last couple of weeks.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 1:02 pm

I get my data from Hopkins.

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 1:10 pm

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 1:35 pm

And what was Hopkins' number for the day previous (which may be the case with Worldometer)? One day is only a snapshot.

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 2:11 pm

"One day is only a snapshot"

No argument there. I started an Excel sheet, w/ transcribed JHU data commencing Oct 1st (thru yesterday). The exponential upward trendline in the graph has an R-sq of 0.91. (an iterative 7-day moving avg is also illuminating.)

Of course, it'll go up until it no longer does. And, "new cases" incidence rates comprise but one facet of interest.

Stay safe and well.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 3:53 pm

If you're struggling but aren't sick (yet), economic concerns win out. No big surprise there. 70 million people are fighting a return to austerity and a technocratic "Great Reset" that was devised without their input. They see it as literally fighting for their lives and livelihoods. The new admin can ignore this at their own peril. (Too bad Trump didn't actually solve any of their problems, but at least he gave them his attention, more than anyone else has done in decades.)

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 5:15 pm

Many people have to choose between the certainty of being unable to pay their bills, if they stay home, versus the unknown risk of contracting COVID if they work.

Staying home is luxury a lot of people just don't have–even pre-COVID it was very common for people in low-wage jobs that don't provide sick-leave to show up to work sick. It wasn't because these people are evil or wanted to get anyone sick but rather because if you don't work you don't get paid.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 5:27 pm

Precisely. The rent isn't going to pay itself, and people are scared about their future. Covid isn't an obvious terror like Ebola, so people weigh the risks and decide in favor of their economic security. If we were like some of the more advanced countries in the world, they wouldn't have to make this choice, but here we are.

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:25 pm

+ to "more advanced countries"

jonhoops , November 14, 2020 at 9:16 pm

"at least he gave them his attention, more than anyone else has done in decades."

Hmmm last time I looked Bernie Sanders was paying attention and proposing solutions since at least 2015. Nice how you just erased him and the millions who voted for him.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 10:39 pm

You're right. Trump is the only primary-winning candidate who paid attention to the working class in recent memory. Bernie was obviously a million times better than Trump because he was sincere, he had a plan, and he would have followed through. But he got screwed.

David , November 14, 2020 at 12:46 pm

I'm becoming a bit weary of reading that politicians like Trump are "exploiting anxieties" about poverty and unemployment, as though such anxieties were unreasonable and the problems didn't really exist. The trouble is that "responding to voters' concerns about their lives" doesn't have quite the same dismissive overtones. The supercilious assumption that people who are afraid of losing their jobs are being "exploited", whereas people being urged to vote on gender lines aren't, seems very strange. Is anyone really surprised that people are more worried about how much money they have than about which gender they are?

Person , November 14, 2020 at 3:48 pm

Understand people's problems, devise reasonable solutions, communicate your plan to the voters, and follow through on your promises. It sounds so easy, doesn't it but good luck trying it with the media and parties working together against you at every turn. Pull up those bootstraps!

Scott1 , November 14, 2020 at 4:25 pm

Thanks. We are going to find out how the velocity of the vote is slower than the velocity of hunger.
"Civilization is about 3 meals thick." John Brockman, ex-con.
We are not together and the people in power don't want to give the people without, food money. Two more and 3 more months of disease as hunger and death knock at more and more doors. Evictions pick up apace.
Cormac McCarthy dystopia. No country for anybody.
The economic theory attributed to Warren Mosler and popularized by Stephanie Kelton is the last idea. If it is a Hail Mary then so be it. If it doesn't work, isn't put to work, mankind itself is doomed.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 2:08 am

Isn't it shocking that we're even saying these words in a time of hyperabundance?!

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 5:06 pm

Public health care authorities understandably directed their policy responses toward pandemic mitigation, and the Democrats largely embraced their recommendations. But they remained insensitive to the anxieties of tens of millions of Americans, whose jobs were being destroyed for good, whose household debts -- rent, mortgage, and utility arrears, as well as interest on education and car loans -- were rising inexorably, even allowing for the temporary expedient of stimulus checks from the government until this past August

I agree and worse this dynamic is playing itself out again–talk about whether President-elect Biden should institute a lockdown is bringing out the "lockdown now, worry about the consequences later" mentality again.

While I'm not sure Biden personally regards the millions of those who cannot work from home, but aren't considered essential, collateral damage, there are clearly a segment of Democrats who do–I've even seen it on Facebook among people I know. It provides further proof that the Democrats, as Thomas Frank and others have astutely noted, have become predominantly the party of the college-educated upper-middle class.

While I'm not denying the severity of the pandemic, the consequences of business shutdowns and subsequent layoffs are very real and not something to be laughed at or minimized, especially if Democrats want to have a future among those who are less affluent.

Sound of the Suburbs , November 15, 2020 at 4:55 am

The globalists found just the economics they were looking for.
The USP of neoclassical economics – It concentrates wealth.
Let's use it for globalisation.

Mariner Eccles, FED chair 1934 – 48, observed what the capital accumulation of neoclassical economics did to the US economy in the 1920s.
"a giant suction pump had by 1929 to 1930 drawn into a few hands an increasing proportion of currently produced wealth. This served then as capital accumulations. But by taking purchasing power out of the hands of mass consumers, the savers denied themselves the kind of effective demand for their products which would justify reinvestment of the capital accumulation in new plants. In consequence as in a poker game where the chips were concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in the game only by borrowing. When the credit ran out, the game stopped"

This is what it's supposed to be like.
A few people have all the money and everyone else gets by on debt.

Most of today's problems come from the 1920s.

Financial stability had been locked into the regulations of the Keynesian era.
The neoliberals removed them and the financial crises came back.
https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/banking-crises.png
"This Time is Different" by Reinhart and Rogoff has a graph showing the same thing (Figure 13.1 – The proportion of countries with banking crises, 1900-2008).

After the 1930s, they wanted to ensure those times would never return and put things in place to ensure they didn't.
The neoliberals have been busy stripping them away.

What did the economists learn in the 1940s?
http://delong.typepad.com/kalecki43.pdf
In the paper from 1943 you can see ..
They knew Government debt and deficits weren't a problem as they had seen the massive Government debt and deficits of WW2.
They knew full employment was feasible as they had seen it in WW2.
After WW2 Governments aimed to create full employment as policymakers knew it could be done and actually maximised wealth creation in the economy.

Balancing the budget was just something they used to do before WW2, but it wasn't actually necessary.
Government debt and deficits weren't a problem.
They could now solve all those problems they had seen in the 1930s, which caused politics to swing to the extremes and populist leaders to rise.
They could eliminate unemployment and create a full employment economy.
They could put welfare states in place to ensure the economic hardship of the 1930s would never be seen again.
They didn't have to use austerity; they could fight recessions with fiscal stimulus.

The neoliberals started to remove the things that had created stable Western societies after WW2.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 1:29 pm

I learn a ton from your posts, thank you.

Amateur Socialist , November 15, 2020 at 8:07 am

"If I thought voters were racists who want basic economic security and the other party was offering them racism but not economic security, I would simply try offering economic security but not racism rather than offering them neither." -Ed Burmilla https://twitter.com/edburmila/status/1324420903409692673

Sound of the Suburbs , November 16, 2020 at 3:49 am

We stepped onto an old path that still leads to the same place.
1920s/2000s – neoclassical economics, high inequality, high banker pay, low regulation, low taxes for the wealthy, robber barons (CEOs), reckless bankers, globalisation phase
1929/2008 – Wall Street crash
1930s/2010s – Global recession, currency wars, trade wars, austerity, rising nationalism and extremism
1940s – World war.
We forgot we had been down that path before.

Right wing populist leaders are only to be expected at this stage.

Why is Western liberalism always such a disaster?
They did try and learn from past mistakes to create a new liberalism (neoliberalism), but the Mont Pelerin Society went round in a circle and got back to pretty much where they started.

It equates making money with creating wealth and people try and make money in the easiest way possible, which doesn't actually create any wealth.
In 1984, for the first time in American history, "unearned" income exceeded "earned" income.
The American have lost sight of what real wealth creation is, and are just focussed on making money.
You might as well do that in the easiest way possible.
It looks like a parasitic rentier capitalism because that is what it is.

Bankers make the most money when they are driving your economy into a financial crisis.
What they are doing is really an illusion; they are just pulling future spending power into today.
The 1920s roared at the expense of an impoverished 1930s.
Japan roared on the money creation of real estate lending in the 1980s, they spent the next 30 years repaying the debt they had built up in the 1980s and the economy flat-lined.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YTyJzmiHGk

Bankers use bank credit to pump up asset prices, which doesn't actually create any wealth.
The money creation of bank credit flows into the economy making it boom, but you are heading towards a financial crisis and claims on future prosperity are building up in the financial system.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf
Early success comes at the expense of an impoverished future.

Sound of the Suburbs , November 16, 2020 at 5:23 am

Let's get the basics sorted.
When no one knows what real wealth creation is, you are in trouble.

We want economic success
Step one – Identify where wealth creation occurs in the economy.
Houston, we have a problem.

Economists do identify where real wealth creation in the economy occurs, but this is a most inconvenient truth as it reveals many at the top don't actually create any wealth.
This is the problem.
Much of their money comes from wealth extraction rather than wealth creation, and they need to get everyone thoroughly confused so we don't realise what they are really up to.

The Classical Economists had a quick look around and noticed the aristocracy were maintained in luxury and leisure by the hard work of everyone else.
They haven't done anything economically productive for centuries, they couldn't miss it.
The Classical economist, Adam Smith:
"The labour and time of the poor is in civilised countries sacrificed to the maintaining of the rich in ease and luxury. The Landlord is maintained in idleness and luxury by the labour of his tenants. The moneyed man is supported by his extractions from the industrious merchant and the needy who are obliged to support him in ease by a return for the use of his money."
There was no benefits system in those days, and if those at the bottom didn't work they died.
They had to earn money to live.

Ricardo was an expert on the small state, unregulated capitalism he observed in the world around him. He was part of the new capitalist class, and the old landowning class were a huge problem with their rents that had to be paid both directly and through wages.
"The interest of the landlords is always opposed to the interest of every other class in the community" Ricardo 1815 / Classical Economist.
They soon identified the constructive "earned" income and the parasitic "unearned" income.
This disappeared in neoclassical economics.

GDP was invented after they used neoclassical economics last time.
In the 1920s, the economy roared, the stock market soared and nearly everyone had been making lots of money.
In the 1930s, they were wondering what the hell had just happened as everything had appeared to be going so well in the 1920s and then it all just fell apart.
They needed a better measure to see what was really going on in the economy and came up with GDP.
In the 1930s, they pondered over where all that wealth had gone to in 1929 and realised inflating asset prices doesn't create real wealth, they came up with the GDP measure to track real wealth creation in the economy.
The transfer of existing assets, like stocks and real estate, doesn't create real wealth and therefore does not add to GDP. The real wealth creation in the economy is measured by GDP.
Real wealth creation involves real work producing new goods and services in the economy.

So all that transferring existing financial assets around doesn't create wealth?
No it doesn't, and now you are ready to start thinking about what is really going on there.

Economists do identify where real wealth creation in the economy occurs, but this is a most inconvenient truth as it reveals many at the top don't actually create any wealth.
Hide what real wealth creation is, and pretend it's making money, and this problem goes away.

techpioneer , November 16, 2020 at 7:25 pm

Irony:

The party of the New Deal can't muster a repeat performance.

Delusional:

Hoping that the party of "big business" will transform itself into the party of the working class.

[Nov 17, 2020] One recommendation for the improving the transparency and accuracy of the recount

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

dustinwind , 3 hours ago

They should bring in all new counters and have them start right after watching all the previous counters get beaten with baseball bats for screwing up. That would probably help accuracy.

[Nov 17, 2020] This is endlessly amazing the premier world democracy was unble to finish votes counting the election night

Nov 17, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

The Rev Kev , November 16, 2020 at 9:26 am

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
'This is endlessly amazing: Brazil, a huge country, has nationwide municipal elections today. Voting is mandatory. *All* votes will be counted & released by tonight.'

Ah, I see the problem here. The difference is that Brazil is a Third World nation that is kept that way by morons such as Bolsanaro. America, on the other hand, is being turned into a Third World nation because the elite is seeing a profit in doing so.

[Nov 17, 2020] It simply begs the question, why would an all powerful deep state pick Biden? Stupidest choice possible.

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Schroedingers Cat , 2 hours ago

It simply begs the question, why would an all powerful deep state pick Biden? Stupidest choice possible.

[Nov 17, 2020] If there was a plan to cheat the count, there is a plan to cheat a recount, too.

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

fnsnook , 3 hours ago

the dims are in deep trouble in ga. the hand count can't be cheated on as much as a dominion machine can cheat so the turnaround in votes may be astonishing. because it is so mathematically impossible to have a count vary so much from the machine count that the machines will definitely be blamed for the vote discrepancy and all dominion machine votes in the usa will have to audited.

i hope i am right.

philmannwright , 3 hours ago

dont "count" on it. if there was a plan to cheat the count, there is a plan to cheat a recount, too.

[Nov 17, 2020] The interesting question is whether Trump (a highly flawed candidate who brought us a bigger banker bailout than Bush/Obama by far) is going to finally wake up middle America to the fact that elections don't matter

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

LetThemEatRand , 3 hours ago

The interesting question is whether Trump (a highly flawed candidate who brought us a bigger banker bailout than Bush/Obama by far) is going to finally wake up middle America to the fact that elections don't matter.

If he accomplishes that, he won. Bigly.

[Nov 17, 2020] The folks I saw counting votes in Georgia probably can't read and unfortunatly the names "Biden" and "Trump" have the same number of letters

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Ajax_USB_Port_Repair_Service_ , 2 hours ago

The names "Biden" and "Trump" have the same number of letters, so it very difficult to them apart!

Propaganda Phil , 2 hours ago

B and T do rhyme with one another. I mean who can blame them?

wild dog , 2 hours ago

The folks I saw counting votes in Georgia probably cant read.

Peace_and_Love , 3 hours ago

So, they need to stop the whole effing process and start over, and have every damned vote verified by both parties, with video recording the damned process.

[Nov 17, 2020] The elections as politicians auction

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

zackra , 3 hours ago

its not Dems against republicans its [neoliberal] globalists against American. The Dems are just the party globalists find easer to buy

[Nov 17, 2020] Vole ballots role in 2020 elections: one needs to distinush the situation when voters vote with a ballot and the situation when ballots shred oppression of voters and votes themselves

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

robertocarlost , 2 hours ago

I watched Biden answer reporters questions today. He is a senile old man not fit for any job.

Some of you people made a big mistake.

Woodley , 2 hours ago

I don't think that anyone actually voted for him.

with extra foam , 2 hours ago

C'mon man. 77M.

Woodley , 2 hours ago

Ballots.

[Nov 17, 2020] Biden's call to host "a global summit for democracy". This from a man who supposedly stole the 2020 election using mail-in and Scorecard fraud

Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Dying-Of-The-Light , 10 minutes ago

"Biden's call to host "a global summit for democracy".

This from a man who just stole what was supposed to be a democratic election. The hypocrisy of Biden and his minders knows no bounds.

dustinwind , 1 hour ago

So Biden plans on bending over grabbing his ankles and leading from behind like Obama did. I'm not surprised.

not dead yet , 1 hour ago

Obama never led from behind. He just put that out there in case things went belly up. I believe Obomber said that during the Libya "liberation" where all the NATO "allies" ran out of bombs after a couple of days and the US had to supply them. None of these countries were equipped to do war so it was all on the US for intelligence and coordination plus the ordinance.

[Nov 16, 2020] How Russiagate Ruined Everything

Nov 16, 2020 | www.antiwar.com

Daniel McAdams Posted on November 15, 2020

How did the Russiagate hoax feed into the Covid hoax and then feed into the Election hoax? Ron Paul Institute Director Daniel McAdams ties them all together in this speech to the Mises Institute 's recent Lake Jackson Seminar with Ron Paul. "All of a sudden the tweets are gone, the Facebook is gone, the media is gone. Only crazy people are questioning the most pristine -- the most perfect -- election of all time." Watch it here:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1YultIz0Q-E

Reprinted from The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity .

[Nov 16, 2020] Stark choice for the US consumers: With the gaslighting MSM it might be better to consume mindless entertainment than consuming lies upon lies.

Nov 16, 2020 | www.unz.com

Whitewolf , says: November 16, 2020 at 9:48 am GMT • 7.3 hours ago

@Realist

Most Americans would rather watch America's Got Talent, Dancing With The Stars or The Masked Singer than be informed about important issues.

With the gaslighting media and newspapers doing the informing they are better off consuming mindless entertainment than consuming lies upon lies. Even the net these days would be near useless if not for comments sections as far as helping you inform yourself on important issues.

[Nov 16, 2020] Slight exaggeration

Nov 16, 2020 | www.unz.com

Rob McX , says: November 15, 2020 at 12:16 am GMT • 1.7 days ago

[Biden] has on more than one occasion regaled audiences with a tale about his father telling him that "You don't need to be a Jew to be a Zionist".

His reminiscences of his father need not be taken too seriously. He also tells the story of him and his dad seeing two homosexuals kissing each other when he was a teenager. When asked by his son what was going on, Biden Sr explained: "It's because they love each other". Exactly what you'd expect a middle-aged Catholic used car dealer to say to his son 60 years ago.

dvorak , says: November 16, 2020 at 2:53 am GMT • 14.3 hours ago
@Rob McX

Exactly what you'd expect a middle-aged Catholic used car dealer to say to his son 60 years ago.

"Let's all be gay, in a Chevrolet." was his dealership's motto.

[Nov 16, 2020] The American Coup d' tat Against President Donald Trump- - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Notable quotes:
"... If Biden steals this election, it will be Obama 2.0. If Biden's mental health declines, Vice-President-Elect Kamala Harris, one of the most unpopular democrats in modern history will be the President at least for the short term. The question is who will be her vice-president? ..."
"... "only votes for Biden and no down-ballot selections, which she regarded as suspicious" ..."
"... New York Post article ..."
"... "two pieces of software called Hammer and Scorecard were used to flip votes from Trump to Biden in some pre-election voting ballots." ..."
"... "declaring that trespassers will be removed from the White House." ..."
"... Timothy Alexander Guzman writes on his blog site, Silent Crow News, where this article was originally published. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research. ..."
Nov 16, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

If Biden steals this election, it will be Obama 2.0. If Biden's mental health declines, Vice-President-Elect Kamala Harris, one of the most unpopular democrats in modern history will be the President at least for the short term. The question is who will be her vice-president?

Both of the US political parties, the Democrats and the Republicans are a one-party system controlled by special interests no matter who is president .

It's fair to say that Trump's foreign policy was heading towards a dangerous path to a world war as I have written about in the past.

Many of Trump's foreign policies are similar to past administrations whether they were Democrats and Republican, the only difference that I can say is that he did not start any new wars, he continued ongoing wars that was launched by his predecessors.

Trump's domestic policies are mixed at best with an economy built on debt through its Federal Reserve's printing press that can never be repaid jeopardizing the US economy and it's US dollar-based hegemony which are already in a steady decline. However, on a good note about the Trump presidency is that he secured America's 2nd amendment rights (an important right to have during uncertain times), expanded school choice for families and he cut taxes for individuals' and small businesses. Despite a handful of successes on the domestic front, his foreign policy is dangerous for world peace . However, it's fair to say Trump is a different type of politician, one who openly expressed how he felt about certain people in politics or in Hollywood and the mainstream-media (MSM) hated all of it, they despised Trump. The Democratic party has been planning this scenario the day after Hillary Clinton lost the elections to Donald Trump in 2016 with the Russia-Gate Hoax, allegations of sexual assaults, racism and other anti-Trump shenanigans to remove the President. The Democrats were going to steal the 2020 elections no matter what with help from the MSM. If the Supreme court reverses Biden's election win to a loss, giving Trump the victory by January 20th,violence will erupt on US streets leading to a civil war among the American people, and that is certain.

Continuity Follows All US Elections. Despite Evidence, Trump's Legal Challenges are Likely to Fail

Stolen Elections and Biden's Voter Fraud Organization

This election was rigged by the Democratic party, plain and simple. The so-called "President-Elect" Joe Biden has admitted unconsciously that they put together an extensive "voter fraud" organization in U.S. history:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/WGRnhBmHYN0

One of Trump's lawyers fighting the election fraud, Sidney Powell, said that 450,000 ballots was found in several key states with "only votes for Biden and no down-ballot selections, which she regarded as suspicious" according to a recent New York Post article who also said that Powell claimed that "two pieces of software called Hammer and Scorecard were used to flip votes from Trump to Biden in some pre-election voting ballots."

In Michigan, the vote had increased at one point to over 130,000 votes for Biden in the middle of the night, without a single new vote for Trump while most people were asleep:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wLRITa1jHHw

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3P36qnU-Ozc

In Pennsylvania, former New York City Mayor and Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani made a press statement on the fact that dead people were voting in Philadelphia:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/__fR2H_Bsu4

There will be many more whistleblowers, pollsters that were denied the access to observe the vote count and average voters who will be exposing Biden's election as a fraud in the coming days, weeks and months. This is just the beginning.

Mainstream Media Censorship In Your Face

This is perhaps the most in your face evidence that media censorship has been legitimized against President Trump. The MSM now is fact-checking Trump in real-time claiming that he is stating false-facts:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/F74MfjZWjI4

A Coming American Coup D'état?

The Biden regime had issued a warning to President Donald Trump "declaring that trespassers will be removed from the White House." Former sportscaster Keith Olbermann has even called for a coup against President Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q_7f-DfmNNQ

The 2020 election was stolen from Trump, no doubt about that,

However, Trump and his administration knew that the Democrats were going to commit fraud through mail-in ballots.

The US just became a banana republic, a dictatorship with Orwellian overtones that will ensure a Democratic and the Neocon Republican establishment that will move forward with an American-style scientific based-dictatorship.

Biden has prematurely announced a Covid-19 task force that will include planned lockdowns, vaccine mandates and mandatory facemasks due to an increase in Covid-19 cases. The US is surely heading towards what George Orwell has warned the world about. Make no mistake about it, there will be a resistance, a human resistance that will ultimately prevail, and that I can say with certainty.

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[Nov 16, 2020] Kiss of death: The oldest-living war criminal – Kissinger blessed the oldest living senator(Biden claimed during the campaign he'd been in the Senate for 180 years)

Nov 16, 2020 | www.rt.com

Nixon's secretary of state and the arch realist of Washington has given his blessing to the former vice president. Let the bombs fall where they may...

No matter what happens in the Supreme Court, Joe Biden will always have Henry Kissinger.

The oldest-living war criminal – Kissinger, not Biden – has made clear his preference for the oldest living senator (Biden claimed during the campaign he'd been in the Senate for 180 years) and perhaps come January the oldest ever president to take the oath.

[Nov 15, 2020] For weeks vs four years: Rep. Jordan -- Democrats Spent Four Years on Russia Hoax and Don't Want to Spend Four Weeks on 2020 Election

Nov 15, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Saturday during an appearance on FNC's "Justice," Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) questioned why Democrats oppose any investigations into the integrity of the presidential election, despite their past efforts on the 2016 presidential election.

The Ohio Republican congressman reminded Fox News viewers that Democrats dedicated for years to the "Russia hoax" but do not want to allow four weeks for an investigation into this year's presidential election.

[Nov 15, 2020] The funny thing about this anti-Trump hysteria is that it has hardly any reason to exist

Nov 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

Dumbo , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:02 pm GMT • 3.9 days ago

All of which is understandable, given the horrors of the last four years, the concentration camps, the wars of aggression, the censorship, the CIA murder squads, the show trials, and all that other dictator stuff.

The funny thing about this anti-Trump hysteria is that it has hardly any reason to exist.
– Was the economy going bad?
No, it was doing well, at least until the lockdown. Wall Street was happier than ever too.
– Did Trump end immigration and deported millions?
Not really, Obama appears to have deported more, so much that Trump seems to have increased his vote among Mexicans this time.
– Was there any inconvenience or change for most people?
Not really, life was going on smoothly, until the Dems started to orchestrate riots.
– Was Trump responsible for "thousands of corona deaths"?
Not really, as levels have been similar with many other countries, and the whole thing was exaggerated for political or other purposes anyway.
– Was Trump against Israel or the Jews?
Not at all, quite the opposite in fact.

Now they are happy about a Biden win, which if anything will be more tyrannical, with mandatory masks and/or vaccines, more censorship, more strict laws, worse economy, etc.

It seems that for many or most people, just words are enough to convince them.

Institute censorship but tell them it is "to fight against hate speech", force people to stay indoors or wear masks but tell them "it's for their own health", force bakers to bake cakes for gays but tell them it's a "human rights issue". And people will lap it up.

So now they dance in the streets for Biden and Kamala Why? Do they have any idea of their policies and plans? Not really They just have been told that they are "progressive" and the candidates to cheer for

Rufus Clyde , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:56 pm GMT • 2.8 days ago
@RoatanBill

I think that gives the beneficiaries of the system way too much credit. They don't care whether other people are miserable, any more than they care about the disposition of chickens.

[Nov 15, 2020] How can there be a constitutional crisis when neither party, nor any federal or local law enforcement, actually recognizes the constitution any more?

"There is no good future for the US if neoliberalism, and neoliberal elites, continue to rule." -- Ian Welsh
Nov 15, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

How can there be a constitutional crisis when neither party, nor any federal or local law enforcement, actually recognizes the constitution any more? It's absurd.

[Nov 15, 2020] Roaming Charges- After-Math

Nov 15, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org

+ Here's a slogan for you, Clyburn: " Stop taking $$$$ from Big Pharma! "

+ Biden surrogate John Kasich on CNN this week: "The Democrats have to make it clear to the far-left that they almost cost him this election." Should be pointed out that with Kasich as his political consultant, Biden lost Ohio by nearly 9 percent.

+ Of course, the Democratic elites been trying to ritually purge the party of its leftist ranks since at least 1985, when in the aftermath of the Mondale defeat, Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Joe Biden formed the Democratic Leadership Council. And the leftists they most wanted to purge at the time (with the possible exception of Ralph Nader) were Jesse Jackson and his multi-ethnic, working-class Rainbow Coalition. Instead of embracing the promise of Jackson's remarkable movement, they moved to crush it, so that they could transform the party into a hospitable receptacle for Wall Street money.

+ If there's anything that lends a fractal of credence to Trump's voter fraud conspiracy it's that Biden appears to have won, while the Dems failed to take the Senate and nearly lost the House. How bad do candidates have to be for people to vote for Biden & not them? Plenty bad, mon, plenty bad

+ If the senate ends up in a 50/50 split after the Georgia runoffs, Joe Manchin is the most likely Democratic senator to bolt to the Republicans. On the most important issues, he already has : "Defund the police? Defund, my butt. I'm a proud West Virginia Democrat. We are the party of working men and women. We want to protect Americans' jobs & healthcare. We do not have some crazy socialist agenda, and we do not believe in defunding the police."

+ Though he may have commanded one of his serfs to read it for him, there's no question of Trump's tiny fingers ever flipping through the pages of Machiavelli, but he acts out his principles of power at a gut level. Biden's probably read The Prince twice, yet shows scant evidence of even the vaguest understanding the book's most basic political messages.

+ Isn't the only rationale for Kamala Harris that in moments like this she can play the role of a legal hard-ass? Yet, as Trump, Barr and McConnell move on different fronts to delegitimize the election, she's MIA. (Biden is still waiting by the phone for his old buddy Mitch to call )

+ I can understand having your presidency undermined by the Deep State. But to have your election overturned by Trump's Superficial State? That would take some serious incompetence from the Biden team, which they're certainly capable of

+ If Biden gets Evo'd by the Superficial State and goes into exile in Ireland, will Bernie run again, giving his Sandernistas the chance to prove their persistent claim that "he would've won"?

+ The Spartans had two kings serving at once, both equally war-like. We could be headed there

+ Speaking of the "common good," there's an open cell at Abu Ghraib with your name on it, Condi

+ Kellyanne Conway in November 2016: "They have to decide whether they're going to interfere with him finishing his business, interfere with a peaceful transition. They're going to be a bunch of cry babies and sore losers about an election that they can't turn around."

+ Though he may have commanded one of his serfs to read it for him, there's no question of Trump's tiny fingers ever flipping through the pages of Machiavelli, but he acts out his principles of power at a gut level. Biden's probably read The Prince twice, yet shows scant evidence of even the vaguest understanding the book's most basic political messages.

+ Isn't the only rationale for Kamala Harris that in moments like this she can play the role of a legal hard-ass? Yet, as Trump, Barr and McConnell move on different fronts to delegitimize the election, she's MIA. (Biden is still waiting by the phone for his old buddy Mitch to call )

+ I can understand having your presidency undermined by the Deep State. But to have your election overturned by Trump's Superficial State? That would take some serious incompetence from the Biden team, which they're certainly capable of

+ If Biden gets Evo'd by the Superficial State and goes into exile in Ireland, will Bernie run again, giving his Sandernistas the chance to prove their persistent claim that "he would've won"?

+ The Spartans had two kings serving at once, both equally war-like. We could be headed there

+ Speaking of the "common good," there's an open cell at Abu Ghraib with your name on it, Condi

+ Kellyanne Conway in November 2016: "They have to decide whether they're going to interfere with him finishing his business, interfere with a peaceful transition. They're going to be a bunch of cry babies and sore losers about an election that they can't turn around."

[Nov 15, 2020] Why Fake News About Iran, Russia, China dominate US news now?

Nov 15, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

DG , Sep 15 2020 13:30 utc | 7

They are all Judith Miller now.
morongobill , Sep 15 2020 13:39 utc | 8
Like the famed slogan of septic tank pumpers, the Gray Lady's masthead should read, "Your shit is our bread and butter!"
ptb , Sep 15 2020 13:53 utc | 9
Yep. We're into some pretty overt 1984 territory now...

[Nov 15, 2020] How Western media would cover the U.S. election if it happened in another country

Nov 15, 2020 | www.msn.com

[Nov 15, 2020] Time for healing or "We're still friends?"

From comments "Creepy Joe tries to steal the election and we're supposed to heal?", "This Deep State bullshit has been going on for decades continually getting worse.", "Pretty much every large city is Democrat run, even in "red" states."
Nov 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

Lihirv , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:14 pm GMT • 2.4 days ago

I'm reminded of the scene in the (true-story) movie BOYS DON'T CRY where Brandon Teena (played by Hilary Swank) is raped by two men she knows, and afterwards one of them puts his arm around her and says, "We're still friends?"

[Nov 15, 2020] Wear a Mask When You're Alone- Wisconsin Government

Nov 15, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"Wear a Mask When You're Alone" Wisconsin Government

"It's nothing new for political religions to produce radicals that develop their own sects or cults. This time around, rigid devotion to enforcing mask compliance has produced runaway fanaticism based on nothing but blind faith that more mask-wearing is always better . Even the public health experts, whom these followers all promoted as great prophets just months ago, can't tame their fervor.

That's a problem, because a return to normalcy will require subduing radical factions that agitate for oppression. Restrictions such as mask mandates are like oxygen to followers of radical fundamentalist Covidianism -- the abiding belief that only lockdowns, social distancing, and masks can deliver us from the deadly pandemic. The longer mandates stay in place and experts continue promoting mask use -- "My mask protects you! Your mask protects me!" -- the stronger and more widespread the extremism will grow, and the less influence experts will have over their behavior.

The evidence is abundant, but consider these three cases of radical Covidianism and how they trace back to an abandonment of the scientific standards necessary to maintain public health and a functioning society." The Federalist

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Yes. IMO this has gotten very much out of hand and Covidianism is launched as a basis and justification for government/fanatic control of our lives and very way of life. The ever present hyper-ambitious politicos and civil servants see in this pandemic an opportunity to impose control and often do so for the mere purpose of training and conditioning the populace to the acceptance of government authority in all things.

They have now reached a level of ambition at which they are so bold as to forbid the ancestral tradition of the practice of a family reunion and feast on Thanksgiving Day. The rulers know quite well that the restrictions they wish to impose in California, New York and other satrapies will kill the tradition, but the masses will, in the minds of the autocrats, be better off without it, as are sheep in their fold. Baa! pl

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/22/mask-fanatics-have-officially-abandoned-science-to-control-your-life/

[Nov 15, 2020] The War Is Over...GloboCap Triumphs! by C.J. Hopkins

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Meanwhile, the GloboCap propaganda has reached some new post-Orwellian level. After four long years of "RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION!" now, suddenly, "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ELECTION FRAUD IN THE USA!" ..."
Nov 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

...But, whatever. That's water under the bridge. The good news is, the nightmare is over! Literal Hitler and his underground army of Russia-loving white supremacists have been vanquished! Decency has been restored! Globalization has risen from the dead!

And, of course, the most important thing is, racism in America is over again!

Yes, that's right, folks, no more racism kiss all those Confederate monuments goodbye! The Democrats are back in the White House! According to sources, the domestic staff are already down in the West Wing basement looking for that MLK bust that Trump ordered removed and desecrated the moment he was sworn into office. College kids are building pyres of racist and potentially racist books, and paintings, and films, and other degenerate artworks. Jussie Smollet can finally come out of hiding .

OK, granted, they're not going to desegregate liberal cities or anything crazy like that, or stop "policing" Black neighborhoods like an occupying army, or stop funding schools with property taxes , but Kamala Harris is Black, mostly, and Grampa Joe will tell us more stories about "Corn Pop," the razor-wielding public-pool gangster , and other dangerous Black people he hasn't yet incarcerated , so that should calm down all those BLM folks.

In the meantime, the official celebrations have begun. Assorted mass-murdering GloboCap luminaries, government leaders, and the corporate media are pumping out hopey-changey propaganda like it was 2008 all over again. Pundits are breaking down and sobbing on television. Liberal mobs are ritualistically stomping Cheetos to the death in the street . Slaphappy hordes of Covidian Cultists are amassing outdoors, masks around their necks, sharing champagne bottles and French-kissing each other , protected from the virus by the Anti-Trump Force Field that saved the BLM protesters last Summer. It's like V-Day, the fall of the Berlin wall, and the bin Laden assassination all rolled into one!

... No, this is a time for looking ahead to the Brave New Global-Capitalist Normal , in which everyone will sit at home in their masks surfing the Internet on their toasters with MSNBC playing in the background well, OK, not absolutely everyone. The affluent will still need to fly around in their private jets and helicopters, and take vacations on their yachts, and, you know, all the usual affluent stuff. But the rest of us won't have to go anywhere or meet with anyone in person, because our lives will be one never-ending Zoom meeting carefully monitored by official fact-checkers to ensure we're not being "misinformed" or exposed to "dangerous conspiracy theories" which could potentially lead to the agonized deaths (or the mild-to-moderate flu-like illnesses ) of hundreds of millions of innocent people.

... Meanwhile, the GloboCap propaganda has reached some new post-Orwellian level. After four long years of "RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION!" now, suddenly, "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ELECTION FRAUD IN THE USA!"

... Call it the "New Normal," or whatever you want. Pretend "democracy has triumphed" if you want. Wear your mask. Mask your children. Terrorize them with pictures of "death trucks," tales of "Russian hackers" and "white supremacist terrorists."

Biff , says: November 11, 2020 at 2:43 am GMT • 4.4 days ago

After four long years of "RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION!" now, suddenly, "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ELECTION FRAUD IN THE USA!"

Why this is not getting more attention I do not know. It was just the other day when Russia, Iran, and China were influence pedaling of disinformation trying to sway election results. Facebook was censoring/deleting on a constant basis trying to stem the flow of fraudulent information from the evil commies.

Then "poof"

Magically gone.

[Nov 15, 2020] Biden's cancer charity raked in millions but spent NOTHING on medical research, tax filings show

Nov 15, 2020 | www.rt.com

ariadnatheo 1 hour ago 15 Nov, 2020 07:08 AM

Well... he started it after his son's death from cancer but when the millions started pouring in he suddenly realized that none of that will bring his son back and all other cancer patients will have to cope as best they can anyway, so he told himself: "Gosh, darn it, might as well live well." His family agreed. Pfizer also agreed. Detractors try to make this into something objectionable but really, it is just a very touching family story."

[Nov 15, 2020] What could be any worse for Trump than losing to a loser?

Nov 15, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org

Again, there is something exquisitely delicious about Trump's defeat. After all, Joe Biden has been a colossal loser, not only for his wretched foreign and domestic policy record -- for example, his work on behalf of the credit card industry, support for the Iraq war, his Zionism, his sponsorship of the 1994 federal crime bill, and paving the way for Clarence Thomas -- but also in running unsuccessfully for the Democratic presidential nomination twice, once in 1988 and again in 2008.

Therein lies my euphoria. Donald Trump's nightmare, something totally unacceptable to him, is losing. What could be any worse for him than losing to a loser?

Missy Beattie has written for National Public Radio and Nashville Life Magazine. She was an instructor of memoirs writing at Johns Hopkins' Osher Lifelong Learning Institute in Baltimore. Email: [email protected]

[Nov 15, 2020] Different perspectives from alternative sources?:

Nov 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

Robert Konrad , says: November 14, 2020 at 2:24 am GMT • 1.0 days ago

Here is a view of our Great Leader, also from an alternative media source (CP). Isn't this what the UNZ Review is all about? Different perspectives from alternative sources?:

"His mountainous orange hairpiece askew, purse strings tightening round his tiny puckered mouth, the sad friendless, cretinous, semi-literate, misogynistic, homophobic, islamophobic, xenophobic, closet racist, white supremacist and neo-Nazi, and flat-out serial-lying flabby ignoramus who cannot laugh and can hardly smile, applauds himself as he appears on stage, a waddling catalogue of psychotic disorders, a paranoid, delusional, self-obsessed, egotistical, schizophrenic, narcissistic, sociopathic con man, whose miniature mouth really does resemble an asshole. I challenge you to juxtapose close-ups of the two and try to tell the difference."

(PBS writer and producer)

[Nov 15, 2020] The question of priorities, or four years vs four weeks

And neoliberal Dems have spend millions on Mueller investigation; it would be faire to spend a couple on investigation of 2020 elections fraud.
Nov 15, 2020 | twitter.com
Rep. Jim Jordan @Jim_Jordan 8h
Democrats baselessly investigated President Trump for four years. But they can't take four weeks to ensure election integrity?

[Nov 15, 2020] Pro-Trump 'Million MAGA March' Protesters Chant 'Fox News Sucks' After Network Calls Election for Biden

They should understand this much earlier ;-) Fake opposition to Clinton-controlled MSM like CNN. It's a big club and you are not in it. And your interests neither.
Nov 15, 2020 | www.msn.com

'Fox News sucks!': Trump supporters decry channel as it declares Biden wins

In Arizona, pro-Trump demonstrators who massed outside an election facility in Phoenix chanted: "Fox News sucks!"

The rightwing network, owned by Rupert Murdoch and built up by the late Roger Ailes, was once so closely aligned with Trump that many observers said it functioned as "state media".

As Trump has feuded with Fox, he has lavished more praise on OAN, tweeting last year that it "is doing incredible reporting".

[Nov 14, 2020] Lost American

Highly recommended!
Nov 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

says: November 10, 2020 at 1:53 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago 100 Words

For the past three or four days I have been wondering why the NY Post made this very sudden turn to supporting Joe Biden. For months we have had brilliant articles by Miranda Devine , Michael Goodwin, and others all in support of Trump and the America we have known for many years. Replies: @Realist REPLY AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC. THIS COMMENTER THIS THREAD HIDE THREAD


Lost American , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

For the past three or four days I have been wondering why the NY Post made this very sudden turn to supporting Joe Biden. For years we have had brilliant articles by Miranda Devine , Michael Goodwin, and others all in support of Trump and the America we have known for many years, and all of a sudden the NY Post changed its views, but these columnists have not changed. They are too knowledgable and are gifted with common sense. I look forward to reading their columns or will the Post cancel culture them?

Raoul , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:50 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

Any discussion of how to "work with" the Marxists is well, it just shouldn't be discussed. You can't work with Marxists. Besides, Trump won the election. This will be proven over the next few weeks.

Realist , says: November 10, 2020 at 3:35 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago
@follyofwar >

Fox is merely a tool for the Deep State they don't need viewers their wealth will come from the Deep State control of the economy.

Given Fox's about face and support of Biden, how much longer will it be before Tucker Carlson gets his walking papers?

That presupposes that Carlson is not a Deep State minion.

Oh well, Tucker doesn't need Fox either. He has millions of loyal listeners who will follow him whatever he decides to do.

It will not be of television. If the Deep State wants to cancel Carlson it will on any platform.

Realist , says: November 10, 2020 at 3:38 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago
@Cutler

OAN and Newsmax are exploding in popularity and yes Tucker ought to leave Faux News He will have more reach when he does.

The Deep State can end them as well. The only possible solution is to end the Deep State that will require a revolution.

[Nov 14, 2020] It's important for people to realize that media NARRATIVES are created ahead of time to support some of these elections outcomes. They're as fake as the election totals

Highly recommended!
Nov 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:42 pm GMT • 22.3 hours ago

@TheTrumanShow 0 votes and that fake story was given as the reason why.

They went for a softer approach in KY in 2019. The first-term Repub Gov had a Yankee's forthrightness so they just latched onto comments he made regarding the underfunded teachers pension program and amped-it to high heaven getting teachers all in a frightful frenzy.

In that solidly Red state, with all other prominent offices on the ballot (AG, SoS, etc.) going overwhelmingly Repub , somehow the Repub Gov loses to the Dem by around 5000 votes. The "teachers pension" narrative was rolled-out as the reason. (Btw, it seems that Dominion, or another type, software was used to switch the votes in that race. I've seen video about it.)

[Nov 14, 2020] Should Tucker leave Faux News ?

Nov 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

Cutler , says: November 10, 2020 at 11:28 am GMT • 4.2 days ago

@follyofwar

OAN and Newsmax are exploding in popularity and yes Tucker ought to leave Faux News He will have more reach when he does.

[Nov 14, 2020] Welcome expansion of human rights in the USA for dead citizens -- in the world premier democracy they can vote now

Nov 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

Kooshy , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:11 pm GMT • 5.0 days ago

Pepe

In US, voting rights continues even after death. It can now be added to the will and be executed by descendants when necessary.

syd.bgd , says: November 9, 2020 at 8:08 pm GMT • 4.8 days ago

Americans are getting their own prime export medicine, in huge doses. Well, how does it feel? Greetings form Serbia.

[Nov 14, 2020] Some people still have illusions

When you fight with CIA you better backed your belts.
Nov 14, 2020 | gnews.org

U.S Army Seized Servers in Germany Tied to Dominion Voting System – GNEWS

President Trump's attorney, Lin Wood has already responded to this report:

Tweet Lin Wood @LLinWood

Biden & his criminal cronies are not going to sleep well tonight. Well, Biden might because he probably forgot the name Scytl.

His co-conspirators know name well. They also know the name Paragon, company which purchased Scytl in 10/20.

Every will be revealed.

#FightBack

[Nov 14, 2020] I believe that US are truthful when they talk about "free" elections. Onle way of getting something for free is to steal it

Nov 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

Cyrano , says: November 9, 2020 at 8:46 pm GMT • 3.4 days ago

@Tyler Durden

I believe that US are truthful when they talk about "free" elections. Theoretically, the only way you can get something "free" in life is – if you steal it, or if somebody gives you something as a gift.

This "election" has fulfilled both of these 2 criteria. First the deep state stole the election from Trump and then they presented it as a gift to Biden. So it's all good. It was a free election for Biden, Trump got robbed – but hey, you can't please everybody.

[Nov 14, 2020] Who draw whom

Nov 14, 2020 | www.rt.com

J_P_Franklin 1 hour ago 14 Nov, 2020 04:28 PM

Trump drew 57,000 to his Butler, Pennsylvania rally a week before the election. I saw, Joe Biden draw almost three dozen people to his biggest rally.
Count_Cash J_P_Franklin 27 minutes ago 14 Nov, 2020 05:39 PM
and they were all girls under 13!

[Nov 14, 2020] GOP Rep. Gaetz- 'Those Dominion Software Systems -- They Changed More Votes than Vladimir Putin Ever Did'

Nov 14, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

More people over the age of 90 voted is 2020 elections

[Nov 14, 2020] Lockdowns For Thee, But Not For Me

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

As Joe Biden's camp continues to try and walk back talk of another national lockdown, Democratic leaders are once again exhibiting via their behavior that social distancing restrictions and lockdown rules are "for thee and not for me."

In an incident that may remind readers of Nancy Pelosi's quarantine-time visit to a San Francisco Hair Salon, California Gov Gavin Newsom has been busted attending a swanky party at one of California's top restaurants.

[Nov 14, 2020] Irregular regularities in Michigan

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

systemsplanet , 4 hours ago

Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat has denied claims there is fraud or irregularities in her state.

It's very irregular to deny poll watchers the right to view ballots being counted you POS

synthetically derived , 3 hours ago

"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
― Frank Zappa

[Nov 14, 2020] What are major parts of the Deep State other then CIA

Nov 14, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

elkern , Nov 13 2020 18:06 utc | 61

"Deep State" is a vague term, more useful in propaganda than in the rigorous analysis that I come here for. Trump & US Right Wingnuts use it as code for, well, not exactly sure, but maybe something like imaginary "Socialists funded by George Soros to take away our guns and let the UN cut off our dicks and force us to eat broccoli" or something like that. Unfortunately, this confused usage obscures a very real set of problems, where people "deep" in US Government Departments often promote agendas contrary to the best interests of our country.

IMO, we need to distinguish between different groups inside US Bureaucracies (in no particular order):

1). Inertial Bureaucrats
- primarily concerned with maintaining & increasing their own power within the bureaucracy
- tend to do things "the way we've always done it"
- try to protect their bureaucracy & it's functions from meddling and oversight by elected politicians

2). Military/Industrial/Congressional Complex
- huge problem in DoD
- not fixable (shy of Green Wave election, lol)
- being paid well tends to reinforce people's conviction that they're Doing The Right Thing

3). OSS/CIA(/Illuminati?)
- "The Company" has metastasized beyond control of US Gov't
- network of shadow Corps gives it independent sources of money ("endowments"?)
- probably willing to manipulate US politics "for the good of the country"
- might be fixable, but that could get bloody

4). Regulatory Capture
- Corporations control agencies designed to regulate them
- big problem in Domestic policy Departments, less so for FP/Military
- should be fixable, but has Congressional protection like MIC

5). Groupthink
- Smart People blinded by each others' brilliance
- linked to Inertial Bureaucrats, above
- Think Tanks, where Rich People pay Smart People to write BS
- in FP, NGO's influence policy by pretending that their preferences are the only option (Atlantic Council, etc)

6). AIPAC
- most/only prominent force on US Gov't primarily motivated by the strategic interests of other Country
- Other countries try, but none come close to AIPAC influence
- influence on FP NGO's is used to enforce Groupthink, above ("we've always been at war with...")
- focused almost entirely on FP/Mil/Intel agencies

7). Political Parties
- GOP & Dems each have patronage havens (left tit/right tit, pardon the crass metaphor)
- GOP/NeoCons dominate Security agencies, especially (federal) Police groups
- Dems are more concentrated in domestic regulatory agencies


IMO, it would be more accurate - though politically dangerous - to describe Amb Jeffrey as "AIPAC" rather than "deep state".

ricardo2000 , Nov 13 2020 18:07 utc | 64

To call anything Trump did or said as 'realpolitik' merely underlines that term's self-serving stupidity. The official is merely congratulating himself for promoting policies to which Trump made passing reference, without understanding or supporting the reality or reasons behind them.
'Deep state' is a term with similar intellectual pretensions. I doubt the author has read the seminal work in the field by Col. Chester Prouty, The Secret Team. Prouty was President Eisenhower's and Kennedy's liaison with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the CIA. If the CIA wanted military assets for an operation they had to go through Prouty. If Prouty was in a meeting everyone knew they were speaking to the President, the JCS, and the CIA. The Secret Team had every copy purchased the day it was published and then went out of print for 20 years. It describes CIA penetration of government offices.

H.L. Mencken: "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

[Nov 13, 2020] Neocons Poised to Join New Government by Phil Geraldi

Notable quotes:
"... It would not be overstating the case to suggest that the neoconservative movement has now been born again, though the enemy is now the unreliable Trumpean-dominated Republican Party rather than Saddam Hussein or Ayatollah Khomeini. ..."
"... The transition has also been aided by a more aggressive shift among the Democrats themselves, with Russiagate and other “foreign interference” being blamed for the party’s failure in 2016. ..."
"... The unifying principle that ties many of the mostly Jewish neocons together is, of course, unconditional defense of Israel and everything it does, which leads them to support a policy of American global military dominance which they presume will inter alia serve as a security umbrella for the Jewish state. ..."
"... That change has now occurred and the surge of neocons to take up senior positions in the defense, intelligence and foreign policy agencies will soon take place. In my notes on the neocon revival, I have dubbed the brave new world that the neocons hope to create in Washington as the “Kaganate of Nulandia” after two of the more prominent neocon aspirants, Robert Kagan and Victoria Nuland. ..."
"... A Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton protégé, Nuland openly sought regime change for Ukraine by brazenly supporting government opponents in spite of the fact that Washington and Kiev had ostensibly friendly relations. Her efforts were backed by a $5 billion budget, but she is perhaps most famous for her foul language when referring to the potential European role in managing the unrest that she and the National Endowment for Democracy had helped create. The replacement of the government in Kiev was only the prelude to a sharp break and escalating conflict with Moscow over Russia’s attempts to protect its own interests in Ukraine, most particularly in Crimea. ..."
"... A lot of the neocons are Russian Jews who grew up in households that were Bolshevik communists. They're idea of spreading democracy goes back to Trotsky who tried to spread communism through the Soviet Union. Their hatred toward Russia dates back to their ancestors feudal days under the Tsars and the pogroms they suffered and the ice pick Trotsky got to the head. ..."
"... Obama's deep state lied, people died: https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/ ..."
"... I've never quite figured out the "neocon" ideology, beyond the fact that neocons seem devoted to the sort of status quo present in Washington, D.C. during the three administrations prior to Trump. Military adventurism, nation-building, and interventionist foreign policy, all based on nebulous concepts which are applied unevenly around the world. ..."
"... The Neocon movement seems to have morphed into nothing more than a club for bullies trying to one up each other. ..."
"... "It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way." ..."
"... Neocons don't really prefer war, so much as they prefer overseas "engagements" that may look like war and smell like war. All that's missing in neocon military operations is a defined end state. ..."
Nov 13, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Donald Trump was much troubled during his 2016 and 2020 campaigns by so-called conservatives who rallied behind the #NeverTrump banner, presumably in opposition to his stated intention to end or at least diminish America’s role in wars in the Middle East and Asia. Those individuals are generally described as neoconservatives but the label is itself somewhat misleading and they might more properly be described as liberal warmongers as they are closer to the Democrats than the Republicans on most social issues and are now warming up even more as the new Joe Biden Administration prepares to take office.

To be sure, some neocons stuck with the Republicans, to include the highly controversial Elliott Abrams, who initially opposed Trump but is now the point man for dealing with both Venezuela and Iran. Abrams’ conversion reportedly took place when he realized that the new president genuinely embraced unrelenting hostility towards Iran as exemplified by the ending of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) and the assassination of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad. John Bolton was also a neocon in the White House fold, though he is now a frenemy having been fired by the president and written a book.

Even though the NeverTrumper neocons did not succeed in blocking Donald Trump in 2016, they have been maintaining relevancy by slowly drifting back towards the Democratic Party, which is where they originated back in the 1970s in the office of the Senator from Boeing Henry “Scoop” Jackson. A number of them started their political careers there, to include leading neocon Richard Perle.

It would not be overstating the case to suggest that the neoconservative movement has now been born again, though the enemy is now the unreliable Trumpean-dominated Republican Party rather than Saddam Hussein or Ayatollah Khomeini.

The transition has also been aided by a more aggressive shift among the Democrats themselves, with Russiagate and other “foreign interference” being blamed for the party’s failure in 2016. Given that mutual intense hostility to Trump, the doors to previously shunned liberal media outlets have now opened wide to the stream of foreign policy “experts” who want to “restore a sense of the heroic” to U.S. national security policy. Eliot A. Cohen and David Frum are favored contributors to the Atlantic while Bret Stephens and Bari Weiss were together at the New York Times prior to Weiss’s recent resignation.

Jennifer Rubin, who wrote in 2016 that “It is time for some moral straight talk: Trump is evil incarnate,” is a frequent columnist for The Washington Post while both she and William Kristol appear regularly on MSNBC.

The unifying principle that ties many of the mostly Jewish neocons together is, of course, unconditional defense of Israel and everything it does, which leads them to support a policy of American global military dominance which they presume will inter alia serve as a security umbrella for the Jewish state. In the post-9/11 world, the neocon media’s leading publication The Weekly Standard virtually invented the concept of “Islamofascism” to justify endless war in the Middle East, a development that has killed millions of Muslims, destroyed at least three nations, and cost the U.S. taxpayer more than $5 trillion. The Israel connection has also resulted in neocon support for an aggressive policy against Russia due to its involvement in Syria and has led to repeated calls for the U.S. to attack Iran and destroy Hezbollah in Lebanon. In Eastern Europe, neocon ideologues have aggressively sought “democracy promotion,” which, not coincidentally, has also been a major Democratic Party foreign policy objective.

The neocons are involved in a number of foundations, the most prominent of which is the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), that are funded by Jewish billionaires. FDD is headed by Canadian Mark Dubowitz and it is reported that the group takes direction coming from officials in the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Other major neocon incubators are the American Enterprise Institute, which currently is the home of Paul Wolfowitz, and the School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at John Hopkins University. The neocon opposition has been sniping against Trump over the past four years but has been biding its time and building new alliances, waiting for what it has perceived to be an inevitable regime change in Washington.

That change has now occurred and the surge of neocons to take up senior positions in the defense, intelligence and foreign policy agencies will soon take place. In my notes on the neocon revival, I have dubbed the brave new world that the neocons hope to create in Washington as the “Kaganate of Nulandia” after two of the more prominent neocon aspirants, Robert Kagan and Victoria Nuland.

Robert was one of the first neocons to get on the NeverTrump band wagon back in 2016 when he endorsed Hillary Clinton for president and spoke at a Washington fundraiser for her, complaining about the “isolationist” tendency in the Republican Party exemplified by Trump. His wife Victoria Nuland is perhaps better known. She was the driving force behind efforts to destabilize the Ukrainian government of President Viktor Yanukovych. Yanukovych, an admittedly corrupt autocrat, nevertheless became Prime Minister after a free election. Nuland, who was the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the State Department, provided open support to the Maidan Square demonstrators opposed to Yanukovych’s government, to include media friendly appearances passing out cookies on the square to encourage the protesters.

A Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton protégé, Nuland openly sought regime change for Ukraine by brazenly supporting government opponents in spite of the fact that Washington and Kiev had ostensibly friendly relations. Her efforts were backed by a $5 billion budget, but she is perhaps most famous for her foul language when referring to the potential European role in managing the unrest that she and the National Endowment for Democracy had helped create. The replacement of the government in Kiev was only the prelude to a sharp break and escalating conflict with Moscow over Russia’s attempts to protect its own interests in Ukraine, most particularly in Crimea.

And, to be sure, beyond regime change in places like Ukraine, President Barack Obama was no slouch when it came to starting actual shooting wars in places like Libya and Syria while also killing people, including American citizens, using drones. Biden appears poised to inherit many former Obama White House senior officials, who would consider the eager-to-please neoconservatives a comfortable fit as fellow foot soldiers in the new administration. Foreign policy hawks expected to have senior positions in the Biden Administration include Antony Blinken, Nicholas Burns, Susan Rice, Valerie Jarrett, Samantha Power and, most important of all the hawkish Michele Flournoy, who has been cited as a possible secretary of defense. And don’t count Hillary Clinton out. Biden is reportedly getting his briefings on the Middle East from Dan Shapiro, former U.S. Ambassador to Israel, who now lives in the Jewish state and is reportedly working for an Israeli government supported think tank, the Institute for National Security Studies.

Nowhere in Biden’s possible foreign policy circle does one find anyone who is resistant to the idea of worldwide interventionism in support of claimed humanitarian objectives, even if it would lead to a new cold war with major competitor powers like Russia and China. In fact, Biden himself appears to embrace an extremely bellicose view on a proper relationship with both Moscow and Beijing “claiming that he is defending democracy against its enemies.” His language is unrelenting, so much so that it is Donald Trump who could plausibly be described as the peace candidate in the recently completed election, having said at the Republican National Convention in August “Joe Biden spent his entire career outsourcing their dreams and the dreams of American workers, offshoring their jobs, opening their borders and sending their sons and daughters to fight in endless foreign wars, wars that never ended.”

Polish Janitor , 13 November 2020 at 11:34 AM

It should be noted that the return of "neocons" does not mean the return of people like Wolfowitz, Ladeen, Feith, Kristol who are more "straussian" than "liberal/internationalist", but those like Nuland, Rice, Sam Powell, Petraeus, Flournoy, heck even Hilary Clinton as UN Ambassador who are CFR-type liberal interventionist than pure military hawks such as Bolton or Mike Flynn.

These liberal internationalists, as opposed to straussian neocons, will intervene in collaboration with EU/NATO/QUAD (i.e. multilaterally) in the name upholding human rights and toppling authoritarianism, rather than for oil, WMDs, or similar concrete objectives. In very simple terms, the new Biden administration's foreign policy will be none other than the return to "endless wars" for nation-building purposes first and last.

fakebot , 13 November 2020 at 11:43 AM

The name Kagan is the Russianized version of the name Cohen. He was going to be McCain's NSA had he been elected. They pulled a stunt with the Bush admin to make Obama look weak by pushing Georgia into war with Russia in 2008. Sakaasvili, the president of Georgia, was literally eating his own tie:

https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/img/102445/69/1024456927_0:98:1000:639_1000x541_80_0_0_d2bb118481dc653ec7d2a8b170b8f6bf.jpg

A lot of the neocons are Russian Jews who grew up in households that were Bolshevik communists. They're idea of spreading democracy goes back to Trotsky who tried to spread communism through the Soviet Union. Their hatred toward Russia dates back to their ancestors feudal days under the Tsars and the pogroms they suffered and the ice pick Trotsky got to the head.

I don't think they have that much influence. They pushed a lot of nonsense in the late 70/early 80s about how the Taliban were George Washingtons and here we are today, they're worst than the Comanche. The last time I saw Richard Perle make a TV appearance, he was crying like a baby. Robert Novak, the prince of darkness, was a Ron Paul supporter. The only ones really kicking around are Bill Kristol and Jennifer Rubin, but Kristol was almost alone when he was talking about putting 50,000 boots on the ground in Syria. Rubin is a harpie who only got crazier and crazier. Kagan had his foot in the door with Hillary only because of his wife. Those two might get back in with Biden on Ukraine, but Biden would do well to keep them at a distance.

Mark K Logan , 13 November 2020 at 11:57 AM

Thanks.

The lone bright spot is Biden's stated intention of restoring the JCPOA. And, I guess, the pending defenestration of Pompeo The Great.

I suspect the condition of the US economy and the massive deficits will assist in discouraging rash actions elsewhere. Have to wait and see.

Fred , 13 November 2020 at 12:36 PM

Obama's deep state lied, people died: https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

It's great when career professionals sabotage the elected president's foreign policy.

JM Gavin , 13 November 2020 at 01:00 PM

I've never quite figured out the "neocon" ideology, beyond the fact that neocons seem devoted to the sort of status quo present in Washington, D.C. during the three administrations prior to Trump. Military adventurism, nation-building, and interventionist foreign policy, all based on nebulous concepts which are applied unevenly around the world.

It seems now that there is a new breed of neocons, unified by opposition to Trump's messaging, but not much else. Odd to find people like Samantha Power, John Bolton, Jim Mattis, and Paul Wolfowitz marching together in perfect step.

The Beaver , 13 November 2020 at 02:49 PM

Mr Geraldi

A good perspective by Philip Weiss on the same subject. Eliot A Cohen must be communicating a lot with the Kagan brothers , Dennis Ross and Perle to see who can be parachuted either to the WH or Foggy Bottom.

https://mondoweiss.net/2020/10/neoconservatives-are-flocking-to-biden-and-lets-forget-about-the-iran-deal/

BrianC , 13 November 2020 at 03:08 PM

@JM Gavin

I've never quite figured out the "neocon" ideology

The revolutionary spirit (see E. Michael Jones' work). From communism to neoconservatism it's ultimately an attack on the Beatitudes and Christ's Sermon on the Mount. "The works of mercy are the opposite of the works of war" -- Servant of God Dorothy Day

Mark K Logan , 13 November 2020 at 03:23 PM

JM Gavin,

Sir,

I hold the Cold Warriors like Scoop a species distinct from those of the post-USSR era. The current version started at the end of the cold war. We felt like kings of the world after Gulf War 1 and the shoe seemed to fit.

The HW Bush administration pondered how best to use this power for good. I've read some things which report there was a debate within the administration on whether to clean up Yugoslavia or Somalia first. They got Ron to "do the honors" for the invasion of Somalia at Oxford: About 20 minutes in. https://www.c-span.org/video/?35586-1/arising-ashes-world-order

That was played as part of the pep-talk on the Juneau off the coast of Somalia. Stirring stuff.

In some small way I never stopped sipping that Kool Aid. It's hard to stand by and watch unspeakable evil go down when you have the power to stop it...or think you do. Time will tell if the Neocons are capable of perceiving the limits of force. Certainly had some hard lessons in the last few decades.

EEngineer , 13 November 2020 at 03:57 PM

@JM Gavin

Hogs lining up for a spot at the trough? The Neocon movement seems to have morphed into nothing more than a club for bullies trying to one up each other.

Dan , 13 November 2020 at 04:35 PM

I think its generally shocking that Trump or the republicans didn't make a bigger issue of Biden's history of supporting disastrous intervention, especially his Iraq War vote. Maybe they felt like its not a winning issue, that they would lose as many votes as they gain by appearing more isolationist. But overall, Trump favoring diplomacy over cruise missiles should have been a bigger point in his favor in the election.

jerseycityjoan , 13 November 2020 at 04:52 PM

It is distressing to read that we will have people in the government who are looking for a fight. That is especially true in view of China's aggression in recent years and the responses we will have to make to that. I think we will have more than enough to do to handle China. What do the neocons want to do about China?

Here is an article about China that really startled me and made me realize how much of a threat is was becoming. The Air Force chief of staff talks about the challenges of countries trying to compete militarily with us in ways that have not occurred for awhile. Here are two quotes that really got me:

"Tomorrow's Airmen are more likely to fight in highly contested environments, and must be prepared to fight through combat attrition rates and risks to the nation that are more akin to the World War II era than the uncontested environments to which we have since become accustomed," Brown writes."

And

"Wargames and modeling have repeatedly shown that if the Air Force fails to adapt, there will be mission failure, Brown warns. Rules-based international order may "disintegrate and our national interests will be significantly challenged," according to the memo."

https://www.airforcemag.com/brown-air-force-must-speed-up-change-or-face-harsh-consequences/#.X02DjeMiZQM.mailto

The article doesn't say we will have another arms race but that is an obvious response to China's competition with us. I thought all that was done and gone. I do not want to resume it. I don't want another period of foreign entanglements, period. We still haven't paid for the War Against Terrorism. I look into the future and all I see is us racking up bills that we have no ability to pay. And then there is the human cost of all this, I don't want to even think about that.

turcopolier , 13 November 2020 at 05:40 PM

jerseycityjoan

"I thought all that was done and gone. I do not want to resume it." Childish. "Only the dead have seen the end of war."

JM Gavin , 13 November 2020 at 05:54 PM

EEngineer,

Snouts in the trough accounts for a certain amount of neocons, I'm sure. There is, however, a unifying vision beyond that which puzzles me, given the very different political orientations of various neocons. Neocons are found in academia and the media as well. Those types are less dependent on taxpayer dollars in exchange for their views (they'll get whatever tax money gets pushed their way in grants, etc regardless).

I find Polish Janitor's "straussian" and "liberal/internationalist" flavors of neocon intriguing, as I hadn't considered that before.

JMG

JM Gavin , 13 November 2020 at 05:59 PM

COL Lang's quote from Plato reminds me of another (from Cormac McCarthy): "It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way."

Neocons don't really prefer war, so much as they prefer overseas "engagements" that may look like war and smell like war. All that's missing in neocon military operations is a defined end state.

JMG

JM Gavin , 13 November 2020 at 06:10 PM

Mark K. Logan,

I concur with your thoughts about standing by as evil occurs. We just have a habit of jumping into complex situations we don't understand, and making things worse. I suspect you feel the same way.

The military misadventures during my career (Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Syria) were marked by our own black and white thinking. The more successful adventures (Colombia, Nepal) were marked by our appreciation (to a certain extent) of the complex nature of the environments we were getting involved in...and the fact that we weren't involved in nation-building in the latter two locales. There were viable governments in place, and we weren't trying to replace them.

JMG

Deap , 13 November 2020 at 06:53 PM

Here is another Biden clip that should have been exploited too - way back when - when the media was a little more trusted, but no less pompous. However, Biden The Plagerizer had it coming.

Now tell me America is not the Land of Opportunity, when one can continuously shoot themselves in the foot and then rise from the dead yet again, and again: https://rumble.com/vb3c09-resurfaced-video-of-joe-biden-should-destroy-him.html?mref=23gga&mrefc=2

Though I am warming more and more to Trump Media becoming the real soul of America. Plus someone, in time. will need to pick up Rush Limbaugh's empire. America needs a counter-weight to fake news more than it needs the keys to the White House, with all its entangling webs, palace intrigues, chains and pitfalls.

Godspeed President Trump. If someone with as few talents s Biden can rise like Lazarus, just think what you can do with your little finger. No wonder the Democrats want Trump destroyed; not just defeated in a re-election. We have your back, Mr President.

TV , 13 November 2020 at 07:03 PM

Mark Logan:
Iran celebrates "Death to America" as a national day.
So let's give them a path to nuclear weapons.

Deap , 13 November 2020 at 07:11 PM

Ex-CIA analyst, Mich Rep. Elissa Slotkin refuses to back Pelosi for Speaker - anyone know her? https://www.newsmax.com/politics/elissa-slotkin-nancy-pelosi-democrat-house/2020/11/13/id/996905/ She wants more mid-West, and less Calif and NY, as the new face of the Democrat Party.

Fred , 13 November 2020 at 07:14 PM

Mark,

"It's hard to stand by and watch unspeakable evil go down when you have the power to stop it...."


I hear Trump is evil/Hitler/worse. I wonder if anyone who thinks that is true has the power to rig an election, or thinks they do?

jerseycityjoan , 13 November 2020 at 07:50 PM

Colonel,

You are right of course.

Are the people of America up for another arms race and a more or less cold war with China? I think the Chinese will give us a lot more trouble than the Soviets ever did.

And yet we allow their students to come here and learn all we know and their elites to bring their dirty money here and we give them green cards and citizenship and protect the money they took from the Chinese people. Not so smart on our part.

I am very concerned about all of this.

Serge , 13 November 2020 at 07:57 PM

What is the next theater of war that Biden's new friends will involve us in? I noticed lots of Cold War era conflicts are heating up lately, Ethiopia Morocco Armenia being recent examples. IS in Syria/Iraq is still castrated due to the continued mass internment of their population base in the dozens of camps, but they have established thriving franchises in Africa and their other provinces continue to smolder.

[Nov 13, 2020] Of Color Revolutions- Foreign and Domestic- (The First 72 Hours.) by Brett Redmayne

Notable quotes:
"... You are what's called a usefull idiot. The GOP doesn't care about anyone but Israel and the elites on Wall street. Every 4 years the GOP pretends to care about poor white people and they show some colored people to show "look we are not racist." ..."
"... The problem with Magatards like you is the inability to separate fantasy with reality. ..."
"... Let's all just stop pretending we don't live in a fucking banana republic and move on. ..."
Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

The former ambassador to Russia under the Obama Administration, Michael McFaul, presumably knows a lot about Color Revolutions, since his boss used him in Ukraine in 2014. McFaul, who was also instrumental in the Russia-Gate disinformation campaign against Trump, also authored, "7 Pillars of Color Revolution,"

As this historic election continues, reporting and further analysis will highlight daily events and their parallels that already warn that these seven pillars are seemingly right in place here in America, as they were in the examples Ukraine, Bolivia and Venezuela, at least.

The initial step in each example has been to use a national election as the reason for a razor-thin and disputed vote result, one that the media stirs into a frenzy on both sides: A frenzy so viscous that the result becomes massive civil unrest followed next by violence.

And then military intervention.

In this, the first seventy-two hours of news from the election battleground of America 2020, this first step of a media fabricated victor, of which the other side detests and alleges criminal behavior, would seem in play.


Tor597 , says: November 9, 2020 at 10:28 am GMT • 3.9 days ago

@AReply

You are what's called a usefull idiot. The GOP doesn't care about anyone but Israel and the elites on Wall street. Every 4 years the GOP pretends to care about poor white people and they show some colored people to show "look we are not racist."

But to say the GOP really cares what everyone thinks and is inclusive to a fault is ridiculous. How brainwashed are you?

The problem with Magatards like you is the inability to separate fantasy with reality. You really think Trump is the god emperor who is fighting pedophiles and you will believe anything other Trumptards throw up on YouTube.

Lol at the GOP by definition being conservative. Trump is a liberal who grew the size of the government.

Anatman , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:33 am GMT • 4.1 days ago

Let's all just stop pretending we don't live in a fucking banana republic and move on.

Jean-Marie L. , says: November 9, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT • 3.7 days ago

Well observed:Joe Bidoe is America's Juan Guaiden.

[Nov 13, 2020] The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans by Jef Costello

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans JEF COSTELLO NOVEMBER 9, 2020 3,000 WORDS 377 COMMENTS REPLY Tweet Reddit Share Share Email Print More

At this point, it seems unlikely that Trump is going to prevail in his legal challenges. It's possible that he will, but what do you think is more likely? If he doesn't prevail, however, Biden's "win" can actually be a tremendous win for us.

Why? Well, first let's address the question of who "we" are. I hate to sound like Joe Biden, who seems not to know who he is or where he is or what he's talking about from moment to moment (get ready for four years of hilarity, folks). But it's useful to remind ourselves of who we are from time to time. We are White Nationalists.

A White Nationalist is someone who believes that white peoples have a right to their own homelands. So that, as a White Nationalist, I am a German nationalist, an English nationalist, a Scottish nationalist, a French nationalist, etc . Or, at least, I support all those nationalisms. To be a white nationalist in America is really to recognize that the core "American people" are the white people whose ancestors built the country and who continue to pay for it. Thus, American White Nationalism = American nationalism. To be an American nationalist is also to recognize that more recent, non-white arrivals don't belong here at all; and that while our blacks have been here a long time and some of them do sing, dance, and dribble well, they are mostly parasites who contribute almost nothing to the society except grief.

Since it now looks impossible to go back to the good old days when we had blacks in complete subjection, and since both blacks and browns out-breed us, American nationalists essentially face two possible courses of action. The first is to remove non-whites from the country, which seems impossible at this point, or to remove ourselves. This latter course would mean that we all go back to Europe, which the Europeans won't allow, or that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward.

So, how does Trump's loss help advance us in that goal? To state the obvious, white Americans will never work toward a white American homeland unless they are aware of themselves as White Americans; unless they see themselves as a group with distinct interests, and the moral right to assert those interests. "Awakening" white people has always been our goal as White Nationalists -- awakening whites in America, and in Europe. This awakening is far more important than any political figure, or any short-term political goals. This awakening is and ought to be our top priority.

When I first got involved in this movement, almost exactly twenty years ago, there were two questions that were constantly raised in my local "hate group": (1) When are white people going to wake up? And (2) will it take some kind of societal collapse to get them to wake up? Most of us thought that it would take such a collapse, but that this wouldn't happen in our lifetimes. Well, my friends, now it has happened. The collapse has occurred, and Trump's loss has brought it about.

The country was already fractured along political lines. Now it is completely broken. Conservatives, the overwhelming majority of whom are white, have long known that the media are biased to the Left and that the political establishment does not have their interests at heart. But they still believed in "the system." They believed that it still might be possible to work within the system and get somebody elected who would actually be their guy . Somebody who could bring the jobs home, stop the tide of non-white immigration, clean up the streets ( i.e. , do something about black crime), combat the politically correct madness, and get us out of the forever wars. The election of Donald Trump seemed to confirm this optimism.

But all the voices on the far-Right who labeled Trump "a distraction" have now been proved correct. Trump actually wound up doing little for white people -- despite being continually vilified by the Left as a white supremacist! Still, millions of whites not only continued to support him, they carried on a love affair with the man. Trump was adored by his base like no other American political figure in memory. Not even Reagan got this much love. The more vicious and unhinged the attacks on Trump became, the more his base supported him. They knew that his reelection would be no cakewalk, but they believed it was still possible.

They knew that the media and the Democrats would play dirty -- very dirty. But they trusted the electoral process. Or, at least, they hoped for the best. For months there was talk about voter fraud, primarily focused on the issue of mail-in ballots. But conservative whites still had faith that the system would work for them, as it did in 2016.

Now their faith has been completely and irreparably shattered. And this is hugely significant for us.

The first step toward real secession is psychological secession: seeing that though I still live in it, this is no longer my country, and there is no longer any hope of making the system work for me and those like me. This is exactly what the 2020 election has accomplished. About 57% of white people voted for Trump in this election. And those many millions of whites are now choking down a gigantic red pill. As we all know, the red pill is the path to liberation.

Quoth Tyler Durden: "Losing all hope was freedom."

It seems that there is credible evidence that there was voter fraud in the election, benefitting Biden. As I write this, Trump's legal team is preparing to fight it -- but, as I have already said, I think that they will lose. Ultimately, it does not matter whether or not there was fraud, or whether the fraud was enough to swing the election to Biden (two separate issues). What matters is that white Trump voters believe that there was.

Trump voters are now, ironically, in sort of the same position as Democrats in the wake of 2016. No matter how much we would like to, none of us will ever forget the "Russian interference!" and "Russia collusion!" hysteria that went on for the better part of two and a half years, until the Mueller report more or less put the thing out of its misery (though not entirely). The difference, however, is that that was all bullshit. And a significant number of Democrats knew it. Trump voters actually have very good reasons to think that this election was stolen.

Regardless of what we eventually learn about whether sharpies can cause ballots to be misread, or whether a "glitch" flipped Trump votes to Biden votes, there is still ample reason for the 70 million Trump voters to think that this thing was rigged. In the months preceding the election, America saw a massive overreach of state and local government power in the form of COVID lockdowns, the net effect of which was to ruin far more lives than it saved. Is it paranoia to think that the intention here was to crash the economy and render Trump unelectable?Consider: Virtually the entire media was not only against Trump, but made it their personal mission to take him down by any means necessary. No lie, no distortion was too ridiculous or too scurrilous. Leftists in government, journalism, academia, and the entertainment industry openly declared that anything and everything was permissible in order to take down the "existential threat" posed by Orange Man. This was the fertile ground onto which were sowed the seeds of speculation about election fraud.

The lockdowns coincided with months of coordinated rioting billed as "protests" against non-existent "racial injustice." The rioters somehow weren't subject to the rules of the lockdowns, because apparently COVID takes a holiday when it is politically expedient. This double standard was so obscene and so blatant, it enraged Republican voters (as well as a few honest rank and file Democrats of my acquaintance).

The Left calculated, correctly, that Trump would do little or nothing to stop the rioting, out of fear of looking too dictatorial in an election year. Trump's own calculation was that allowing the riots to happen would give the Left plenty of rope with which to hang itself. Trump was wrong; his inaction made him seem weak. The basic hope of the Left was that months of economic and social chaos would fatally wound Trump, and that voters would be too stupid to see that it was actually the Left that was to blame for it. In the main, it looks like they were right about this.

But diehard Trump supporters correctly saw that the lockdowns and riots were an election year strategy hatched by the Left. If they were not wholly designed by the Left to damage Trump, they were at least manipulated for that purpose. The cherry on the cake came in the weeks leading up to the election, in the form of big tech's censorship of news damaging to Biden, including blocking the New York Post 's stories about Biden's involvement in his son's shady business deals. This classically Orwellian move finally reached an extreme few would ever have even thought possible, when at last social media began censoring the President himself.

Given all of this, it would be unreasonable not to think that this election was stolen. Trump's supporters believe this -- every last one of them. And they will never stop believing it. Mark my words: this is never, ever going away. Trump voters will go to their graves believing that the election was stolen, and feeling as passionately about it as they do right now, less than a week after polls closed. They will go to their graves hating Leftists (as they rightfully should), and believing that the system is broken beyond repair.

"But," so your objection will go, "the fact that these white Trump voters will become disillusioned with the system does not mean that they will become self-aware white advocates."

My contention, however, is that what begins as disillusionment with the system will, in many cases (a great many cases, I believe) lead to increasing racial consciousness, or open the door to it. Take it from me -- from my own personal experience: once you have accepted that one big thing is a total sham, you begin to wonder whether everything else is. And if you keep going this way, you eventually begin wondering whether wrong is right; whether everything we've ever been told is false and bad might be true and good.

And the fact is that white Trump voters are already far more racially aware than the naysayers in the comments section will give them credit for. Trumpism is an implicitly white phenomenon if ever there was one. And it is implicit only in the sense that its supporters are too tactful and too fearful to name it for what it is -- not in the sense that they are unaware of what it is. We all thought that the media and the Leftists had lost their minds when they damned Trump and his supporters as racists and white supremacists. But they weren't crazy. They grasped, much more clearly than Republicans, what the vector of the Trump movement was -- where it might be headed. They correctly saw that a movement that offered a home to millions of white Americans upset by non-white immigration (euphemistically called "illegal immigration") might eventually give birth to self-aware white advocacy. When they called the Trumpites "racists" it was like seeing the oak tree in the acorn.

As perceptive as the Left was on that particular score, they have, as we all know, been remarkably deaf, dumb, and blind in other ways. Biden's share of the popular vote (if legitimate) is by no means a landslide. There is no "mandate" for looney Leftism, and no "repudiation" of Trump (indeed, Trump did expand his base -- though in one crucial area, as I will shortly discuss, it shrank). But that won't stop Leftists like AOC, and many others, from imagining that they have a mandate for all their craziness.

Therefore, expect the anti-white rhetoric to pick up steam. And, needless to say, this will help the process along in a big way: white Trump voters will think for five minutes and realize that they are at the mercy of a system that is demonstrably rigged against them and wills their destruction. If they haven't realized it already. That image of the McCloskeys with their guns facing down the brown hoard is unlikely to fade anytime soon. And what happened to the McCloskeys has now happened to all white Americans: despised, cornered, and now disarmed. (The literal disarmament is right around the corner, if the runoff elections in Georgia deliver the Senate to the Democrats.)

We are nevertheless still at a point where whiteness remains implicit. Whites dare not speak out in their own defense -- not explicitly as whites, anyway. Populist journalists like Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, and Pat Buchanan, who are privately on our side, still speak in coded language, avoiding open advocacy for whites. However, the coded language (as the Left also correctly sees) is becoming easier to decode by the day. As many on our side have said, we will make no real and substantial progress until we are willing to openly stand up for ourselves -- in person, in broad daylight, and without sock puppets and noms de plume like "Jef Costello." Is that day imminent? I believe that it is.

What would it take? First, it would take white self-awareness -- and I have argued that this is already there, emerging from its cocoon. Second, it would take anger . It would take whites being pushed to a point where they are so angry they speak and behave imprudently , damning the consequences. If one does it, he will simply be squashed; fired, censored, canceled, deplatformed. If many do it, that's a different story. They can't fire us all. And if that anger is great enough, they will fear us. They should. As Don Jr. recently tweeted , "70 million pissed off Republicans and not one city burned to the ground." But this may not last. The election might just be the proverbial straw. The camel may be about to metamorphose into the lion.

Already there are signs of uncharacteristic self-assertion on the part of angry Trump voters. There have been large protests by Republicans in "swing states," including Michigan and Pennsylvania. There has been violence. Continuing the lockdowns will exacerbate this. Everybody, not just whites, has reached the breaking point with this COVID bullshit. Of course, now that Biden is elected, it would not be surprising if COVID suddenly became a non-issue.

Here are some more predictions:

Trump has now moved over to Gab , a free-speech platform that has embraced thought criminals of all kinds (so far). Trump's supporters will follow him to Gab -- millions of them. They will read the other stuff and become more red-pilled. You can almost predict this one with mathematical certainty.

Gun sales will increase as Trump voters scramble to arm themselves before Biden tries to disarm them. Gun sales have increased enormously since the BLM riots began, so much so that the stores cannot keep up with demand. Ammo sales have been so brisk it's now hard to find bullets for those guns. (Yes, I do believe we are headed for violent civil war .)

Conspiracy theories are going to be mainstreamed. This process was already underway, due partly to the influence of "QAnon." I tried reading the QAnon book , with the intention of writing something about it for this website. I stopped because the thing was so stupid I couldn't get through it. If this stuff can be influential among Trump voters, anything can. Alex Jones is all over Gab. The Trumpites who follow their leader over to that platform will get a big dose of him -- and about 60% of what he says is actually true. He was talking about Epstein's pedo island years ago.

One thing leads to another -- once, as I have said, a big lie is exposed, one begins to question everything else. Who really runs the world? Who controls US policy in the Middle East? What's Bohemian Grove all about? Exactly how long does it take to cremate a single body? Inquiring minds want to know. Let a thousand conspiracy theories bloom! Every one of them helps us, because every one of them undermines the system and the elites who run it.

White males are the only group Trump did not make gains with in 2020. Given his portrayal in the media, the irony here is rich, as Jim Goad has noted. Had Trump gotten more votes from white males, it looks like he would have outvoted even the dead and the fake voters. As Gregory Hood has pointed out, "the reason President Trump is in this position is because he didn't do enough for white working-class voters ." He continues: "White working-class voters are now the most important voting group in America. They will have decided two presidential elections in a row. They will decide more."

The Republican establishment cannot be unaware of this. They've seen the same numbers Hood has. If they did not realize it before, they realize it now. There will be absolutely no going back to the Republican party of John McCain and Mitt Romney. Those names are hard to pronounce now without gagging. That they were the Republican nominees in, respectively, 2008 and 2012 now seems downright surreal. That is how much Trump has changed the party. To save that party, Republicans will have to offer something to white voters. They will have to keep running the Trump train, without Trump. (Though Trump is not going away; he will remain a huge part of public life.)

Everyone thinks 2020 has been a terrible year. It is just the opposite. White nationalism has taken a giant step forward.

Thanks, Joe!


Priss Factor , says: Website November 10, 2020 at 5:39 am GMT • 3.6 days ago

White Liberationist is better.

For the time being, as long as Jews play the gane of Whites vs Diversity, whites should play a game of Jews vs Gentiles.

Go Palestinians.

And tell blacks that Jews exploit them for profits.

Tell Mexicans that Jews hog all the wealth.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 10, 2020 at 7:46 am GMT • 3.5 days ago

To be an American nationalist is also to recognize that more recent, non-white arrivals don't belong here at all; and that while our blacks have been here a long time and some of them do sing, dance, and dribble well, they are mostly parasites who contribute almost nothing to the society except grief.

The author makes a lot of cogent and well-reasoned points, but his delivery lacks nuance and has a coarseness which suggests prejudice to the point of racism.

Not that I am accusing the author of being a racist at all – but in the field of persuasion, a biased narrative produces polarisation, either confirming or disputing one's preconceived beliefs.

I suggest adjusting the author's arguments to recognise the actual fundamental issue in play, which is not skin colour or race or language, but CULTURE. Yes, no doubt, the historical currents and ill-conceived government policies have herded different parcels of humanity into differing contexts on the basis of their racial backgrounds, but while the identifying characteristics (and idiotic government-enabled victim industries) may be numerically associated with skin colour, the actual behavioural differentiations are determined by the collective CULTURE adopted by each individual within their respective communities.

Allow me a simplistic example here. By government policy, an Australian is recognised as Koori (and entitled to all the government benefits, handouts, preferential treatment and other assistance that Koori status attracts) if he/she can demonstrate that they have at least 1/16 Koori blood. What a boon to the Australian "Aboriginal Industry", a government-spawned victim industry par-excellence, whose client-base and professional employment potential is thereby magically multiplied 10-fold compared a Koori threshold limited to just full and half-bloods (do the math).

As would be expected, a great many people are all too eager to pile onto this "victim" gravy train. Never mind that the bulk of them are white.

And the really warped thing about all of this, is that all those whiteys whose great great grandmother or grandfather may have been a Koori, baited by the siren-song of government entitlements and victim rights, all too often fall into the trap of government dependency and economic despondency that afflicts so many of the victim industry's clientelle.

It's not language or race or skin colour, its CULTURE. Egged along by idiotic government officials and vested interests.

Here in Australia, my view is that you're either Australian, or you're not. All other considerations are secondary. That applies equally to foreign and domestic policy, and equally to the native-born and immigrants. Until we come to understand and accept that proposition, the NATION will be hobbled.

So too with the USA. Mind you, it appears to me that the USA's CULTURAL issues are rather more entrenched and vulnerable to vested interests than in Australia (so far). If they can't be resolved, then we may be looking at eventual disintegration into several nations, irrespective of race.

Boomthorkell , says: November 10, 2020 at 8:14 am GMT • 3.5 days ago

Urrah!

Really, it's these exciting and dark times when real change happens. The Kali Yuga beckons us all onwards! I look forward to that future thing which American Nationalism will give birth to. I just hope it involves dragons, somehow, somewhere. Maybe on a flag.

Questioner , says: November 10, 2020 at 9:08 am GMT • 3.5 days ago

Your premise of a "white homeland" in North America is problematic at best, since the territory was already occupied by First Nations of indigenous peoples who clearly were the first to make such a claim on these lands, which stood until the continent was stolen from them by white people. A just reckoning of homelands begins with recognizing their prior rights here first, and then assessing where in the world it is best to park our itinerant white asses. But as you say, we've already forfeited our place in our actual white homelands in Europe and elsewhere in the Old World. So maybe we can negotiate paying rent, on these lands we occupy, to the poor survivors of the genocide we enacted to claim "our" home.

animalogic , says: November 10, 2020 at 9:31 am GMT • 3.4 days ago

"Most of us thought that it would take such a collapse, but that this wouldn't happen in our lifetimes. Well, my friends, now it has happened.'
Reminds me of Mr Twain & his comment that reports of his death have been greatly exaggerated .
The author's race nationalism is sad, to say the least. As if "white" comes with a label. (And never mind all the Legal/Property issues that would arise -- imagine sorting out an Olympic sized pool of cooked spaghetti .)
"that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward."
But having sorted out the labels "White", citizens can play " India 1947 -- the Partion" : you know, that wonderful time when millions of Hindus moved south & millions of Muslims moved north. Death toll somewhere between a couple of hundred thousand to a couple of million. I wonder who will get the bulk of the Oligarchs ? Where will those tribal Oligarchs feel more comfortable ?
Mexicans & Asians -- wonder whether they'll be welcome ? Turn away the Asians especially, will go a long way to guaranteeing failure.
The saddest thing of all ? Assume all the race issues are settled -- & you still have 101 other political issues to deal with .Unless, of course, the author simply wants to transfer the status quo to his new racial Eden .Wow, what a triumph that would be.

Based Lad , says: November 10, 2020 at 10:11 am GMT • 3.4 days ago

Succinct analysis of the giddy optimistic feeling I've been having

Cutler , says: November 10, 2020 at 11:15 am GMT • 3.4 days ago

Of course Europeans and people outside of Europe of European descent are waking and beginning to take our own side This is the inevitable reaction to our ( mostly ) hostile elite, Politics as usual/ MSM etc are all in decline and no amount of censorship is changing these trends. Matthew Goodwin and Roger Eatwell in National Populism The revolt against liberal democracy are amongst many who see this happening. The trend is towards Nationalism away from the Multiculti cult and its champions on tv etc. The silent majority in all White nations are less silent with every passing year.

Good read.

RoatanBill , says: November 10, 2020 at 12:18 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago

Great article.

I've long considered myself a political exile. I left the US because I couldn't stand it any more. The insanity of the laws, the always increasing police state was something I saw but others apparently didn't.

If states start to secede and Texas is one of them, I'll move back. The Fed Gov is the main problem and needs to totally disappear. When the USA goes the way of the USSR, then you'll know there's a chance for freedom.

Etruscan Film Star , says: November 10, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave accident? Rain falling here but not there?

The history of race relations in the past 60 years or so has been based on your assumption, that everyone is the same but environments create cultures that make them seem different. It's a claim that's impossible to disprove, because you can define any traits as cultural, and is therefore meaningless. Nevertheless, in practical real-life terms all you have to do is look at how various groups behave in many different locations and even different times, to see that something is at work besides culture.

And failing to acknowledge biodiversity leads to the absurd victimization industry that has brought us to the brink of race war.

Based Lad , says: November 10, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT • 3.1 days ago
@Questioner

"warriors of the Powhatan "came unarmed into our houses with deer, turkeys, fish, fruits, and other provisions to sell us". The Powhatan then grabbed any tools or weapons available and killed all the English settlers they found, including men, women, and children of all ages. Chief Opechancanough led the Powhatan Confederacy in a coordinated series of surprise attacks; they killed a total of 347 people, a quarter of the population of the Virginia colony."

Oh no those poor natives. Maybe they should have avoided a fight they couldn't win. There's a reason we call them savages.

Questioner , says: November 10, 2020 at 5:46 pm GMT • 3.1 days ago
@Based Lad

Yours is a strange logic, on the subject of homelands. But I believe there's a term for it: "Blame the victim."

CCZ , says: November 10, 2020 at 6:37 pm GMT • 3.1 days ago

"The difference, however, is that that was all bullshit."

But, as the programmer Alberto Brandolini is reputed to have said: "The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." This is the unbearable asymmetry of bullshit .

https://www.theifod.com/brandolinis-law-the-bullshit-asymmetry-principle/

Justvisiting , says: November 10, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT • 3.0 days ago
@CCZ

asymmetry of bullshit

Good post.

There are so many massive lies out there that are still believed by many of the stupid masses brainwashed by mass media, the universities, and a variety of other large institutions.

You can't fix stupid.

So–my crystal ball is very foggy at this point.

(If you think about cultures in the history of the human race, all were based on a bunch of lies. As Terence McKenna liked to say–nowhere is it written that we apes are entitled to learn the truth about anything.)

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 10, 2020 at 8:47 pm GMT • 3.0 days ago
@Etruscan Film Star in parallel with the whole racial profiling paradigm is the same idea applied to religion, wherein George Dubya whipped up his "civilisational struggle" against the Muslim world to facilitate American games of Empire. To the extent that any problem actually exists, religion is a red herring. Here in Australia, Muslim people are amongst the most genuine and charitable people that one can meet. In my experience, the only tiny minority of Muslim people who have caused friction are invariably of Arab origin, and more specifically from Saudi Arabia – an inherently tribal & chauvinistic culture (and a key American ally in the Middle East – just sayin').

Race & religion are distractions. Compatible cultures can assimilate in a harmonious society, while incompatible cultures cannot.

Rosie , says: November 10, 2020 at 9:54 pm GMT • 2.9 days ago
@Priss Factor

For the time being, as long as Jews play the gane of Whites vs Diversity, whites should play a game of Jews vs Gentiles.

If Jews can lead a multicultural coalition against Whites, then Whites can lead a multicultural coalition against Jews. This is their worst nightmare, and almost everything they do is best understood as an attempt to prevent this.

Tulip , says: November 10, 2020 at 11:47 pm GMT • 2.8 days ago

This latter course would mean that we all go back to Europe, which the Europeans won't allow, or that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward.

Jez, they say I am a dreamer, and all I want is a free pony and some government cheese.

Random Anonymous , says: November 11, 2020 at 3:21 am GMT • 2.7 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I suspect that Australians are several decades behind Americans in discovering that your perspective, which basically is what we called civic nationalism, is largely false and has now largely failed. I don't have time to even sketch this, but you can look for critiques of civic nationalism and for concepts like regression to the mean. I hope you can learn from our experience.

Malla , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:19 am GMT • 2.7 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave and snotty racist Europeans and Japanese kept the revolutionary masses down. The opposite is the truth, it were the Europeans who were revolutionary folks (French revolution/Enlightenment anyone) trying to spread modernism over racist, parochial, reactionary, tribal darkie populations and the whole thing ended in tears and trumped up charges against Whitey dreamt up by Jews, marxists and third World Nationalists/ elites. Same with Japanese Empire which too was driven by the Pan Asian ideology. The Chinese too will be rejected by the darkie masses in the future, they too will face trumped up charges for "exploitation" and "oppression" in the future, it has already started right now.
TG , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:45 am GMT • 2.6 days ago

One comment:

"and since both blacks and browns out-breed us,"

I do not deny that there are differences between the races. However, breeding is not one of them.

Ever since the end of slavery, American blacks have had moderate numbers of children, essentially the same whites. Yes, really. Why do you think, after all these centuries, pre-1965 American blacks are still hardly more than 10% of the population?

Actually the fraction of blacks in the United States is lower than it used to be – the Grover-Cleveland cheap-labor immigration surge, that drove wages so low and profits so high, was all from (at the time) white third-world Europe, and increased the white fraction of the population. Because white europeans at the time bred more than black Americans!

So yes, during the 19th century and up through Mao, the Chinese bred like rabbits and lived lives of total misery. After Mao, the Chinese fertility rate was allowed to moderate, and now China is doing very well. Is there anything genetic in the Chinese people for either high or or low fertility rates? No. This at least, is entirely cultural.

Are there genetic differences between the races? Yes. Is excessive breeding one of them? No.

Malla , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:55 am GMT • 2.6 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave in Western societies on average than MENA and South Asians, even the African blacks, who have much more deeper cultures than New World blacks, they all integrate fast into Western cultures but they tend to ebonyify everything. But they bring with them some negative traits like tendency towards violence, crime, chip on the shoulder mentality, melanin power mentality, seeing racism everywhere etc So culturally they integrate faster but the skin colour difference creates resentments and temperament differences still exist. On the positive side blacks are not clannish as the darker Eurasian semi Caucasoids and have an individualistic tendency which does gel well with individualistic Northern Euros.
sb , says: November 11, 2020 at 10:00 am GMT • 2.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I get the feeling that you think that "Koori "' is a synonym for "aboriginal "

It isn't . ( go and look it up yourself )

Ralph Seymour , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:53 pm GMT • 2.1 days ago
@RoatanBill

Agreed. That's the only way I'm coming back as well.

I was just in the US for a month and it appears things are deteriorating quickly.

Cauchemar du Singe , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:28 pm GMT • 2.1 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

Your wilful avoidance of race specific genetics in determination of behavior and capability is glaring.

Cauchemar du Singe , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:52 pm GMT • 2.1 days ago
@Ralph Seymour

I was away from Polaris Parkway, just North of Westerville and Worthington, Ohio, for a couple of months and things have deteriorated quickly.
This also happened to Epstein Best Bud, Les Wexner's pet project Easton Town Center, close to New Albany Wexner's British Village Fantasyland.
The common factor in deterioration is wait for it

Blacks and Browns, managed by jews.

Philadelphia Block Busting, 60 years later, same demographic players.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 11, 2020 at 7:39 pm GMT • 2.0 days ago
@sb understand that the Australian aboriginals were not a uniform race across the Australian continent. The Tasmanian Aboriginals were quite different to their continental counterparts, but even the mainlanders were not racially homogenous. The racial makeup of the native peoples of Papua & New Guinea are completely different again.

A broad analogy can be drawn with the various black races occupying the African continent – their skin colour doesn't uniquely define their respective races. For an extreme example, compare the Congo Pygmies of central Africa with the Rwandan Tutsis.

I do take your point, however – rather than qualify the Kooris as Australian for a potentially global audience, perhaps it is simpler to just refer generically to native Australians..

Ultrafart the Brave , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:53 pm GMT • 2.0 days ago
@Random Anonymous rect.

I hope you can learn from our experience.

One might think so, but apparently not. Instead, in so many ways the Australian culture seems to be marching in suicidal lockstep with the USA, like the mythical lemmings toward the proverbial cliff.

An appalling example of this is the insidious slide of the Australian medical system over the last few decades from a universally free model to a for-profit one infested with middle men and insurance rackets, presumably on a trajectory towards a full-blown American-style Big-Pharma business model with the poor folk thrown under the bus.

The rich get richer, & the poor get the picture.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 11, 2020 at 8:24 pm GMT • 2.0 days ago
@Malla rt of thinking aligns somewhat with reports of homecoming head-chopping ISIS psychos being sent to reeducation camps in Xinjiang, China. The local indigenous population apparently is doing just fine, but returning extremists trained for genocidal wars in the Middle East no longer fit in.

Here's a true story which helps to illustrate that the principle of cultural harmony transcends race, and even species. I was raised on a farm, and on this farm were herds of sheep and also some turkeys. One particular sheep somehow got it into her head that she was a turkey. She would follow the turkey flock around all day, and at night, she would roost in a tree with the turkeys. The turkeys didn't seem to mind, and the sheep seemed quite happy. Compatible cultures.

True story.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:10 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

The stolen election is like Jewish control of the media. EVERYBODY, even Biden voters know this SELECTION/ELECTION WAS STOLEN, but like Jewish control of the media, we are demanded to pretend it doesn't exist or never happened.

No Trump fan here, but I voted for the Orange Man because of the alternative. I still have hope that Team Trump can turn this around. All the Jew/Israel butt kissing aside and the broken promises and holding meetings with (c)rappers, Trump did expose the "normies" to the FAKE MEDIA. Hell, that is more than any other modern day POTUS has done for Whites. Can someone tell me when was the last time Whites had a true representative in the White House that actually looked out for White Americans and was concerned about White civil rights? I am pushing 60 and we haven't had one in my lifetime for sure.

Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:39 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans

Well now, that's kind of the whole point.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/iNkrF43SZEU?feature=oembed

Ilya G Poimandres , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:48 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

So that, as a White Nationalist, I am a German nationalist, an English nationalist, a Scottish nationalist, a French nationalist, etc.

I think if we take it as far as Hitler, we are also Chinese nationalists, and Japanese nationalists etc – those nations can develop in their spheres – and so much the better for them. But they may not force themselves on us (or others).

This whole article is based on the Susan Sarandon premise in 2016 when Bernie lost – that a Trump win would inspire the base to elect a progressive, caring left wing politician. This didn't turn out – the system got rigged for about as establishment a criminal as could have been chosen.

Article 10 is not easy to execute. The right may have honour and guns, but the left is TDSed, and rabies is one strong steroid to help with a fight!

In addition there is no real leader – one who could strategise a secession effectively. Trump certainly couldn't. He'd be great as the PR guy, but not as the leader. Until one is born, America is stuck within the belly of the US beast.

Majority of One , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:10 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

There is a Tribe, which in the main, can be described as Culture Vultures.

Wally , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:24 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Cutler

Author Costello said:
"Had Trump gotten more votes from white males, it looks like he would have outvoted even the dead and the fake voters."

Nope.

Costello misses the point that the curious count stoppage was a pause to enable the left to manufacture the votes that they then anticipated needing in lieu of the largely pro-Trump turnout numbrs. And, any unanticipated pro-Trump surge could have easily been overcome by having a reserve at the ready.
IOW:
Regardless of who had voted for Trump, they simply would have been overcome by the left creating more fake votes for Biden.

Majority of One , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:25 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Malla ir level of verisimilitude.

I would add materialist values and urbanization to the blend. All my ancestry emanated from Scandinavia. After checking out several major cities during the years of my young manhood, I returned to a rural, homesteading life.

Working with my hands and body is important to my well-being. Seasonally, living on the northwestern fringe of the Northwoods, winters are long and arduous -- a good time for artistic and intellectual pursuits. The soul has its needs, as Thomas Moore pointed out in his book "Growth of the Soul". My needs center on living close to the mother of us all. Northeast Asians and Northwest Europeans share much in this perspective.

Zarathustra , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:32 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

Not too many answers to why and to what purpose but still a brilliant article.
Generals love the war, soldiers not so much.
There is lingering question in my mind! The question is: Who loves more war, Israel , or seventeen intelligence agencies with General staff.
But for the time being I am very much against any radical solution.
I am with Trump's "Stand down and stand by".
I think Biden also does deserve a chance to come up with solutions.
But if Biden starts a new war than everything will be justified and Final solution will become inevitable.

Majority of One , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:37 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@TG k up a feast. The younger children enjoy their own fun and games. The older ones help their samesex parents. During the evening after supper, the bottles get passed around and sometimes there is music and perhaps dancing.

The bulk of the Amish -- and the Mennonites -- emerged from an Anabaptist culture in Switzerland and parts of Germany and during the late 17th Century many of them relocated to Lanacaster County Pennsylvania, from which they have now colonized westwards wherever there is the possibility of true country living. Not many of them migrate past the 90th Meridian, where poor soil and semi-arid conditions are poorly conducive to agriculture and cozy country living.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:41 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Questioner

The Siberians weren't first, they aren't nations, and they never made any claims to this country.

No one genocided any Siberians.

Every word in your post is a pack of lies, including the "and" and "The"

Gleimhart Mantooso , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:45 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Questioner

Okay, Schlomo.

The Real World , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:52 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave s have manipulated much in America in the last 50 years and that is the bigger reason for what are marketed as 'cultural clashes'. Most of them are bogus and engineered.

Race & religion are distractions. Compatible cultures can assimilate in a harmonious society, while incompatible cultures cannot.

Agree, again, I'd use the term: shared or accepted values.

(Fwiw, I'm willing to go the step further and view the author as a likely racist and supremacist. Most people like that have lived sheltered lives and had little exposure to a variety of peoples. Many of their assertions are simply empty and unaware of ahem the real world.)

Syd Walker , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 6:55 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

If Brexit ranks NINE on the Collective Self-Harm for No Good Reason scale, proposing a civil war in the 21st century to create a "whites only" state in North America is so nutty it breaks the dial.

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:59 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

"At this point, it seems unlikely that Trump is going to prevail in his legal challenges."

If the courts follow the letter of the law, Trump WILL prevail.

freedom-cat , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:03 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

No thanks. I'd rather go back to Europe.

But We'll give you MT, ND, SD, WY, IA, NB, KS, and Maybe OK. That way you can all go back to growing crops and digging oil (ND) for your subsistence. Every place else is getting too mixed for you.

Maybe if you're nice the Hawaiians will let you vacation on their islands occasionally to get a break from long cold winters.

Blue Collar Mike , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:13 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

Though a lame and uninsightful article on the whole, the strategy of and desire for secession is the healthiest conclusion that the author could have been reached. I would just hope that when whites within the ethnostate inevitably conflict with the ethnogovernment that he would also want for them to secede.

Johnny Caine , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:22 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

I can always tell a jerkoff who never served in the military.

Stonehands , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:28 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

What a simple morality play for the banking elites (who own both parties through "lobbying, i.e. bribery" sanctioned by the highest courts) to divide and conquer the taxcattle.

You are arguing over who you pay Tribute to. This is a golden opportunity for mass civil disobedience to overwhelm and bury the decrepit, imperial corporatist oligarchy.

Macumazahn , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:40 am GMT • 1.5 days ago
@Questioner

The stone-age aboriginals who previously inhabited what is now America failed to defend their lands from invasion. Sadly, we've learned nothing from their mistakes.

Stonewall Jackson , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:46 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

Ronnie Unz needs to weigh in here Give the little cretin credit for posting this of course.

Ronnie you are about to get your brown invasion that you so crave good and hard. Of all the things that the globalist elites want in electing this moron demented POS called Biden is an open border

Here it comes Ronnie Won't you and your bro Cholo loving Reed be soooo very happy

Amnesty is going to be served up as one of the first acts of Shithead Biden's administration

Rejoice Ronnie . More poverty crossing the border to cut your grass.. And a bigger mass of people for the welfare state

Of course you think that maids and dry wall hangers are natural conservatives I beg to differ Where i live in Virginia they are natural clients of our welfare offices. We are ground zero for the Welfare Dreamers who come from Central America.

I don't have to gaze into my navel and dream up some statistics about this you insipid moron I can walk down the street to the Socialist Service office and see it for my own eyes.

Yes Ronnie White Nationalist failed thanks to shitheads like you . Now asshole enjoy paying California taxes to support open door poverty

Virginia is we are now on par to have California style taxes to support the brown wave.

Your Buddy Reed had a good plan for escaping that I believe he used to be a Virginian he moved to where the cholos are leaving!

As to this article right!! Cucked whites are doing shit. They'll be called racists and shrivel up like a daisy in a wind storm.

Frankie P , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:51 am GMT • 1.5 days ago
@Priss Factor he Jewish agenda. Why don't we have a Herve Ryssen here in the US? Why don't we have an Alain Soral, publishing prolifically and SELLING books to the deplorable French yellow vests? Why don't we have a comedian like Dieudonne, poking fun at the organized community and its endless wailing about its victimhood? We need more strong voices, willing to point out the fact that there is NO SUCH THING as "Judeo-Christian values"; the very idea grew out of a poison, Scofield Reference Bible influenced swamp, a hideous swamp monster feeding on bleating Christian Zionist sheep, baa baa baaing as their wealth and futures are extracted by the oligarch Jews.

Speak out folks!

Just another serf , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:56 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

It seems, based on much video, as well as the geographic centers of this fraud, that negroes played a disproportionate role in the illegal election activities. Now that does seem counter intuitive, as negroes are overwhelming honest, law abiding citizens.

I can only imagine that it was some small group of Jews that bribed our colored brethren to engage in this thoroughly out of character misbehavior that may well lead to violent, bloody national upheaval.

If only we had employed a larger share of our negro population in the various lucrative advertisement opportunities, thereby sparing them from a life of soul crushing poverty. We might have saved the nation, had we been kinder to our minority Black population.

utu , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:59 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

"A White Nationalist is someone who believes that white peoples have a right to their own homelands." – White Americans forfeited this right the moment they began bringing African slaves here. Advocacy for white nationalism in America is advocacy for secession or genocide. If you have no stomach for advocating genocide of non-whites in America you must advocate for carving out white homeland for white nationalists. This homeland no long will represent America or be America, so you no longer will be American white nationalist but white 'bantustan' nationalist. If you lucky the rest of America will let you have casinos in your bantustan.

noname27 , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 9:42 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

YOU are a part of the problem and your infantile, asinine handle proves it.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:42 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Questioner

The karma of the U.S was always screwed from the day the vile white Euro invaders fucked with the natives and if there should be statues they should be of the likes of Geronimo and not white imperial scum.

May the spirits of all the slaughtered native North American Indians be smiling from ear to ear at the potentially very dangerous division in the middle country of North America.

noname27 , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 9:47 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

A very good article that raises a lot of valid points. White Supremacy is the ONLY way, that's what (((they))) call us, so ride with it – wear their labels with pride. Onwards and upwards!

"The goal of abolishing the white race is, on its face, so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed WHITE SUPREMACISTS .Make no mistake about it: we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed."

– Noel Ignatiev, Jewish Harvard professor and co-founder of 'Race Traitor' magazine.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:51 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

It's not language or race or skin colour, its CULTURE. Egged along by idiotic government officials and vested interests.

Get lost idiot. Race is real and it matters. Fifty years of denying this obvious reality has only gotten us where we are today. Enough.

noname27 , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 9:52 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@utu

What makes you think White Americans brought blacks to America? America didn't even exist when black slavery commenced and the bulk of black slaves went to the Spanish colonies, not the American colonies.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:54 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Questioner

A just reckoning of homelands begins with recognizing their prior rights here first,

A just reckoning also requires a statute of limitations on questions priority and a recognition of who actually built the country.

Besides, the 'native' tribes were already killing and displacing each other. They were mutually hostile, not united. Why should the addition of one more tribe to that warring mix – albeit a tribe whiter and more successful than the rest – make any difference? Ironically, it takes a 'racist' to claim that it does.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:57 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Rosie

Agree, although Jews have a few advantages that make them much better at it, namely a couple thousand years experience operating as tiny minorities in others lands and a shameless hyperethnocentric instinct evidently lacking in white gentiles.

LondonBob , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:01 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

I looked at gab but it didn't seem very user friendly, problem is also everybody needs to cease using twitter and shift to gab at the same time, critical mass.

theMann , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:08 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@RoatanBill

Move back to Texas?

And where, amongst these face diapered morons and Covid fearing degenerates, will you find freedom?

America's problems are far greater than issues of Race, Politics, or Culture. At the core, the issue is complete Spiritual Collapse, manifested in craven cowardice, cringingly lickspittle obedience, mindless group think, and resolute belief in imaginary events.

This isn't going to end well for anyone. The spiritual death of America is as permanent as it is absolute.

The Alarmist , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:09 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

This latter course would mean that we all go back to Europe, which the Europeans won't allow .

You haven't been paying attention, sonny. The Europeans are busy trying to catch up with America's comparitive advantage by importing masses of similar types.

Tucker , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:10 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

Has anybody else besides myself noticed how fast Jared Taylor and his #1 prize writer, Gregory Hood – have cucked and caved in and conceded that the DemonRats won the 2020 Presidential election?

And, how each of these guys have now gone into full concession mode and are trying to persuade and influence their followers to join them in their cuckery and effeminate willingness to become submissive?

Also, I was listening to a recent Red Ice podcast where they had a slew of allegedly pro-white community spokesmen and women on to discuss the fraudulent and clearly obvious attempts by the Demonic leftists to steal the election and they were pushing a meme that I found more than a little bit disturbing.

It went something like this: Racially healthy Whites need to respond to this travesty by 'opting out' of the 'system'. This means that Whites need to stop participating; i.e., stop voting completely.

Alex Linder once said, when discussing the suicidal mindset of Whites who were infected with Christianity – and who we all have repeatedly heard on various talk radio call-in shows come on the
radio – after another leftist anti-white agenda victory and say: "Well, I will just continue to pray and leave things up to God" – Linder dubbed that kind of attitude by Whites as nothing more than pathetic excuse for them to continue to 'do nothing' to help themselves or their people. I agree.

This meme that 'Whites need to stop voting' is exactly the same kind of attitude. I am willing to concede the point that voting is senseless as long as the system continues to allow fraudulent and illegal chicanery to thrive and go unpunished. But, anyone who actively promotes the idea that Whites should just completely opt out is pushing advice that is exactly what our mortal enemies want most. It is a complete surrender to being ruled over by non-whites and jews who hate our guts and who do not want to encounter any opposition to their agenda to genocide our race of people.

Dr. Charles Fhandrich , [AKA "Anonymous"] says: November 12, 2020 at 10:16 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

Yes, the election WAS stolen, the democrats having admitted it themselves after four years of trying to get rid of president Trump, as they said, "BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE"!! So rational people are now to believe that they have suddenly become honest players in the 2020 election? As the saying goes, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT THOUGHT /..Dr. Charles Fhandrich.

mark green , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:36 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Stonewall Jackson sympathizing with some of your sentiments, Stonewall, but your mean-spirited discourse (directed towards our host, no less) is a textbook example of why Comments Sections (and some commentators) get edited–and even banned. Why take this route? It seems self-defeating.

Your disrespectful attitude undermines your appeal. It also diminishes this site.

Why not aim higher? Why not civility?

Ron Unz might be wrong here and there. But he is not a "moron". Making such claims makes you look like one.

Ron Unz has given the world a forum where countless and controversial and conflicting points of view are given oxygen and light. This is invaluable and rare.

Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:47 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

This is probably the most profound and auspicious moment in modern American history. I would like to see Trump and the Republican party seize this moment by creating a parallel government. Imagine 71 million Americans standing solid and publicly announcing a resounding "Fuck you!" to the Jewish commies and all their colored cohorts.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:55 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@silviosilver

'Why should the addition of one more tribe to that warring mix make a difference?'

Because it was their homeland, unlike the Euro invaders of central North America and just try asking an elderly Palestinian how that feels.

And the different tribes may have been at war occasionally but this can hardly be compared to the mass slaughter of the Native North American Indians and their Bison(to try and starve them).

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:15 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans

Wow. Awesome.Yawn.

Who cares about pills when what this country really needs is a yoooge enema?

PS: There is no known cure for brain dead.

lavoisier , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 11:31 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave Most importantly, the lies attributing black dysfunction to white racism must stop immediately, and the government has to stop shoving diversity down our throats continuously.

Allow freedom of association, enforce the laws, stop making excuses for black dysfunction, and limit if not eliminate further immigration into the West from the Third World.

Perhaps then there can be some hope for us living together with a modicum of peace and prosperity.

But I agree with you that nothing is accomplished by referring to an entire group of people in completely disparaging terms.

That being said, black dysfunction has been and continues to be a serious problem that will not be resolved by blaming it on white racism.

anarchyst , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:35 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Frankie P , who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel's wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.
In a perverse sort of way, israel's favorite "war song" is "Onward Christian Soldiers"
There I've said it
glib , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:38 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

Will the redpilled understand that America has done this to many other countries, with many more dead, or will their new consciousness be limited to this particular event? Because the redpilled ones were always enthusiastic about new military adventures.

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:47 am GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Based Lad

If the warriors came unarmed, but wound up killing people instead, I'd wonder what took place in the interval. Something tells me we're only hearing one side and only a small part of the story.

As for avoiding a fight they couldn't win, what advantage would they have obtained if they just bent over and took it in the cheeks without a fight?

Maybe the reason "we" call them savages is called projection.

BTW, here's an example of what failing to fight will get ya,

[MORE]
Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:01 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

Subjugated people don't get to make the rules. The rules are made for them by the subjugaters.

This is not only true of the America's, or of White colonialism generally, but is true of the whole history of the world.

Just one example out of many:

North Africa is Arabic. But it wasn't until the Arabs conquered it. Why not lecture them and tell them to push off? Good luck with that.

trickster , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:21 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@theMann

Excellent comment

PolarBear , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:22 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Frankie P

Sam Hyde is our golden boy.

White Guy In Japan , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

NOT STOLEN!

CONQUERED!

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:25 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Here's a heart warmer for Wally.

'My Friends Joe Biden and Kamala Harris': Netanyahu Speaks of His 'Warm Relationship' with US Democrats

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/my-friends-joe-biden-and-kamala-harris-netanyahu-speaks-of-his-warm-relationship-with-us-democrats/

Ozymandias , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:34 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Thomasina

If the courts follow the letter of the law, Trump WILL prevail

Since when have the courts been confined by the law? They believe themselves to be the law.

Jack McArthur , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:35 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

"But it's useful to remind ourselves of who we are from time to time. We are White Nationalist"

Nope.

Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:38 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave the sheep, in the Kruger park game reserve in South Africa.

An elephant that had some tests performed on it was going to be culled. However, in the end, they decided to release it back into the wild (within the reserve).

This elephant took it into it's head that it was an African buffalo!

It hung out with the buffalo herd, and started to emulate the buffaloes behavior. Initially, of course, the buffaloes were a tad leery of their new, very large friend – but eventually got used to him.

And the elephant provided plenty of muscle when it came to lions stalking the herd.

Ha ha.

Genuine story, not making this up.

sparky , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@christine

It seems like you got the Pocahontas version of history.
All I can say is that if some guys on horses abducted my daughter and then slowly tortured and scalpted her to death, you can be sure I wouldn't hesitate to genocide each and every one of those savages down to the last one. But let's not have facts interrupt your narcissistic moral masturbating. Just don't come here, coz in the end we'll end up laughing at you.

trickster , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Majority of One watermelon, they pass around the gin and juice and sit around smoking the chronic and endo. Guns and ammunition are then passed around and they all discuss that nights or the next days activities.

The bulk of the Negroes emerged from the African bush, sold by their own and competing tribes and have colonized all 52 states wherever there is the possibility of free living and handouts. Not many of them migrate to rural areas where country living and hard work would be considered racist and discriminatory.

We have to thank our black Bros and Sistas. Without their motto "there can be no construction without destruction" the USA would never be what it is today.

SittingBull , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:48 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Ahhh This white man has put in a convincing case for himself and people like him and he has my total support. He and his people can have Wyoming and half of South Dakota, only half. Want some cows and mules? Take them. Take some white women also if they agree to go. And you must take Trump with you, he's white like you. Good luck.

DICARLO , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:55 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

Oh, thankyou, thankyou, but it isn't Whites who need to be lectured about being "racist". Whites aren't the problem. Whites aren't the haters.

DICARLO , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

White liberals cry crocodile tears when the jewsmedia reminds them how White settlers stole land formerly inhabited by American Indians. But, the fact is, every people alive in the world today stole the land they now live on from a weaker people. It's the history of mankind. Further, every Indian tribe in America at the time of Columbus had stolen their land from another tribe, and they continued warring and land stealing until the White man put a stop to it.

hillaire , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

This obsession with restitution and atonement, is replacing religion. Only a race too long comfortable would consider giving away to the defeated all they have accomplished and hard fought for.

Churchills jewish henchman, fake aristocrat and architect of the Dresden and associated slaughters frederick linderman mused that the defining event of the 20th century would be 'the abdication of the white man'.

The seeds of annihilation were sown in the late 19th century, now comes the reaping, aided ably by the mendacity, sloth and cowardice of our own peoples and leaders.

Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@mark green

Agreed.

(Can't use "agree" button).

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:05 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

President Kushner or President Emhoff that is the question. Same old – Jewish "White" Supremacy. The "white" supremacy game of our "free" Zion press forgets to say which "whites" are supreme. Our "free" Zion press is right that there is a "white" group that is supreme but do not go into details which one. Unz site is one of the few sites that notices this "white" group that is supreme in the US and in the entire west.

https://www.wkrn.com/news/your-local-election-hq/harris-husband-to-quit-law-firm-for-white-house/

Vice President-elect Kamala Harris' husband, Doug Emhoff, will leave his job as a partner with a high-profile law firm to focus on his role in the new Biden administration.

A campaign spokeswoman said Tuesday that Emhoff will sever ties with DLA Piper by Inauguration Day. Emhoff took a leave of absence from the firm in August, when Harris was named Joe Biden's running mate. Biden and Harris will be inaugurated Jan. 20.

Emhoff is working with the transition team to determine the issues he will take on as the vice presidential spouse. He is the first man to hold that role, as Harris is the nation's first female vice president.

augusto , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:09 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

thanks mr Costelo for showing your thought crystal clear.
I a south american, am not entirely a contradictor to your views. And even share a few of them.
If you re a white US nationalist I am a Brazilian, no matter-what-color, nationalist.
A nationalist must necessarily abide by the Westphalia Peace and be a faithful son of the 1815 Wien Conference.
The first corolarium of a nationalist like you is , of course, abhorr and abolish globalism. This concedes a few exceptions (such as worlwide communications) since they are already in place and cannot be sensibly reverted.
NOTE 1:I do want to wipe out globalism. (though not for every small nation nation of the world, which would turn not applicable and counterproductive) away from my country for the next decades at least.
The second corolarium is that any self conscious country should cling and fiercely defend a strong list of protectionist laws. And entirely renegotiate the rusty, hegemonic leaning WTO rules. Not to quit it but to found a new WTO. This protection is what the US did all the the 19th century long, from top to bottom.
The third one that springs out as a consequence is that the STATE presence and adhesion to state owned companies in key sectors is vital to any nationalism.
Now the big criterium to enlight and tell things apart is: the less develoloped a country is the more
of state ownership and reliance it will requires.
So until my home country does reach a 40.000 dollar/year PER CAPITA income, with an acceptable
income distribution, I will be a feroucious nationalist just like Costello.
It is taken for granted that small places like Singagore, Uruguay, Andorra, Bosnia or seychelles can AT WILL make an option to globalize, to intenationalize, to sell themselves out to neighbor or to the best bidder.
No half words, no subtle or figurative language. And nobody must keep a secret as to what to do when a big , rich, established country the destroy this legitimate thir party Nationalism, annex or dominate the so described national entity.
Revolution, no less.

bjondo , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:18 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Not President-elect Biden/Deep ShitState
time to concede the election.

Take your lies and leave.
America and Americans don't need you.

Johnny Smoggins , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:19 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

North American aboriginals would last about two weeks without the White man babysitting them.

Embarrassingly, aboriginals are the one group of people on earth even dumber and lazier than Africans.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:23 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Random Anonymous ti" future, they needed to introduce the intermediate step of civic nationalism, whereby anyone could be an American as long as they were willing to assimilate into the dominant culture. Hence, Israel Zangwill's The Melting-Pot .

Thus, civic-nationalism represented the proverbial camel poking its nose through the tent before entering it completely. Once Westerners became acclimated to having non-Westerners living among themselves, the assimilationist approach slowly began to be transformed into the multicultural framework, one in which the overarching objective of dismantling "white supremacy" was slowly unfurled. This is where we find ourselves today.

Miha , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:26 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Tucker

Like sensible people, I think they understand that America is never going to be another Orania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania,_Northern_Cape
It's possible to get a deeper appreciation of the roots of America's social crisis America by reading Thomas Sowell who has uniquely, I think, shown that patronizing guilt-ridden whites (those that were) over the decades bear a particular responsibility.

Pedro , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:41 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Well, if you can't see racism in this guy words I'm convincente that you're already a totally blind racist.

There is NO white land in this continent, son. If you are that German, english, Nordic white nationalist then you can surely Go back there to European origins and claim your ancestors' lands. But one thing you can never claim is the right over stolen territory, neither to define how long one have to occupy robbed land until be able to recognize others as a "native white"
or INVADERS.

EVERY SANE HUMAN KNOWS WHAT IS BEHIND THIS FACADE OF ARGUMENT.

NO WAY ANY REAL NATIVE CAN CLAIM TO BE WHITE, LET ALONE CALL AFRICAN DESCENDENTS ("OUR BLACKS" ) PARASITES AND THIA SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE SICK PREMISES THIS COLONIALIST SUPREMACIST IS DEFECATING FROM HIS MOUTH.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Stonewall Jackson eelings about "diversity":

Friday rush hour. Euston station [in London]. Who's here? Who isn't. A kaleidoscope of skin colours. The world in one terminus. Barbara Roche can see it over the rim of her cup of Americano coffee. "I love the diversity of London," she tells me. "I just feel comfortable."

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/03/11/roche-motel-revisited-the-comfort-of-an-atomized-society/

Ron, too, likes to feel "comfortable." But, unlike Barbara, he's less willing to publicly admit it.

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:49 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@christine

Moron ..the "native americans" are NOT natives in any way .their DNA is ASIAN ..

they came over from Siberia.

They have no claim on the land.

Go. to. hell. you hate filled anti-white bigot pos.

Realist , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:04 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans

Seventy million Americans are already Red-Pilled that's why they voted for Trump.

The question is what is going to be done about the coup?

Poco , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:06 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@utu

White Americans brought them here? All White Americans? Was a black or two parceled out to each White American? Blacks were brought here before America was a nation. And not by White Americans.

A huge number of White Americans came to America after White Americans abolished slavery. Most black slaves weren't even brought to White America but spanish america. White Americans must pay as a group right?

Poco , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine

No. They're in hell. Definitely not smiling.

Zarathustra , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

" Back to the future"
War criminals are rising their heads like mushrooms after rainy night.

Turk 152 , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:13 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@noname27

Fart should know that this is Merica and all his fancy thoughts and high falutin language arent welcome round here.

AndrewR , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:15 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Congrats on being the lowest IQ writer to ever be published on this site. Glad to see Ron Unz is doing his part to increase representation of the imbecile community.

Felix Krull , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

his delivery lacks nuance and has a coarseness which suggests prejudice to the point of racism.

What's wrong with racism?

Felix Krull , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Questioner

First Nations

"Nation" is a white concept. De-colonialize your brain, bigot! To the redskins, land belonged to those who could take it, and Europeans honored that tradition in grand style.

AKINDLE , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@The Real World

Do you really believe the BS you just spewed? "So, things began to slide when welfare became generous and English wasn't required, etc. All of that has been to the detriment of the black population and the cause of many problems in that population." Just another excuse for blacks. Blacks are parasitic criminals, they are going to complain welfare or not. Cut off welfare to blacks then, they never deserved it anyway. The most undeserved race in the world.

ConqueringFools , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

This obsession with Tucker Carlson is as ridiculous as the obsession with Jordan Peterson. Neither give two shits about anything white nationalist. Tucker was born into this life with a jewish silver spoon in his mouth. The guy is worth $20+ million. The fact he hasnt left Foxnews immediately after the networks recent debacle with election reporting shows where his loyalty lies, like most jews (even though he's adopted) its with $$$$

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:48 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@DICARLO

Further, every Indian tribe in America at the time of Columbus had stolen their land from another tribe, and they continued warring and land stealing until the White man put a stop to it.

Of course they put a stop to it. Because they wanted a monopoly on all that. Same reason the White Euro Christians put a stop to Germany's "lebensraum" ideas. The examples are nearly endless.

We hyoominz are wunnerful, no? And religions and politicians are here to solve it all. Uh -huh!

BannedHipster , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

80%+ of Republicans think the election was "stolen."

Everyone can now see how overtly and comically partisan the media is. Everyone agrees with Trump that the media is "fake news."

If anything, popularizing the term "fake news" made Trump worth it.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Questioner

How do you feel about the THEFT OF PALESTINE, SHLOMO.

How do you feel about the racist state known as Israel, Shlomo Goldbergtein?

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Just came across this interesting video of Enoch Powell debating Jonathan Miller on issues around UK immigration. They both appeared on the Dick Cavett Show, which aired back in 1971

https://www.youtube.com/embed/MEPtyb9OHP8?feature=oembed

I looked into Jonathan Miller's background and was shocked – shocked I tell you – to discover this little tidbit

Early Life

Miller grew up in St John's Wood, London, in a well-connected Jewish family.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Miller

Not sure if the honourable Enoch Powell had known this trivia about Jonathan, but if he had he should've put the following query to him:

"You seem to be an ardent proponent of promoting mass immigration into Britain. Are you just as ardent a proponent of promoting mass immigration into Eretz Israel?"

If Jonathan had been injected with a truth serum, he would have likely responded:

"Don't be silly. Why would HaShem's chosen people wish to mix with the goyim of the world? Sheesh, what a schmuck!"

anastasia , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:03 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

While it is true that people of the same culture, race and religion live in more harmony in their marriages, and probably in their society, there is no way to achieve that objective in today's world of mass communication and mass transportation. Impossible. To even think about something like that is a recipe for nothing better than frustration and despair. The Church recommended that people of the different cultures and races and religions should not marry because of the risk that it would interfere with the harmony in their marriage as they face life's other trials. It's solution when the Christians came to the Americas was for them to convert the nations and it's objective was to promote better like-mindedness and better harmony that could sustain them as they lived together in the Americas.

This is what the globalists believe they can achieve without Christianity. Well, they can't, because without Christianity, there is only self-interest, the opposite of Christianity, and that is what they are affirmatively teaching at the moment, for self-interest is what they need to promote disunity, for that provides the means for better control of society.

In my opinion, you had better find another way. Maybe you would be better off correcting the vast majority of hispanics for believing they are something other than Caucasian.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:08 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine p>

Indians slaughtered each other on the regular, they enslaved each other on the regular, they were not a peaceful people and quite savage. Indian tribes would often join up with the White man to fight other Indian tribes.

Hey, are you a member of the same tribe that Lizzy Warren is from or are you a member of the (((tribe.))) Come on, now, you really don't give two shits about Native Americans, you just hate Whitey, don't you? Anyone can search my rather lengthy comment history and they will find they I have a few posts claiming the American Indian is the ONLY nonwhite people who Whitey owes a damn thing to, not a popular opinion, but it is mine and I will own it.

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:10 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Pedro

You are a hate filled anti-white bigot moron.

The "native americans" have asian DNA .

DUMBASS.

I have an excellent idea! Go to the south and find some white man, preferably someone who hunts, and tell him he has to move because he's on "stolen land."

Best of luck, asshole.

PrussianBlues , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:11 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Tucker aged what got us here in the first place? So certainly, completely disengaging is what will further accelerate our demise. You have to wonder, maybe these organizations are part of the gay op to further disenfranchise whites even faster?

This display of white weakness needs to end. If you believe in your right to exist and for the sake of your children, never let them gain any more power, ever. If that means voting for someone that also supports Israel, then so what? If you as a WN, ever think there have been more 'pure and honest' politicians in the past, or are waiting for your perfect WN savior to support in the future, then you are just stupid, sorry.

GMC , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:11 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine drafting place – but not exclusive. I spent over 3 decades with Athabaskan and eskimos – Inuit, Yupik, and a few Aleuts – since the Aleuts were the last genocided tribe – during WW II when they moved all of them to the mainland – in order own all their land – after the War. In the end, this is all planned by the Owners – Illuminati- Deep State – Zionists etc. It doesn't matter if they genocide the Nates – the whites, blacks, Browns – until all the tribes unite and take out the Cancer – the Plan will continue. PS the Russians , when they owned Alaska – never genocided the Native population – no matter what the media or stupid SE Nates – say. I homesteaded in Alaska .
Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:13 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/FE08wodNiEnA/

anon [189] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:16 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Thanks for the tip on Gab. I will now start checking it regularly for Trump's "gabs". Eff Twitter.

anon2024 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Thanks to CNN, I've discovered a new cable channel, Newsmax TV. They have their live TV feed on their website 24×7:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newsmax-tv-trump-voters-are-flocking-to-a-channel-that-claims-biden-is-not-president-elect/ar-BB1aVJK5?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL

According to Wikipedia, Newsmax is co-owned by Christopher Ruddy and Richard Mellon Scaife(heir to the Mellon fortune in Pittsburg). Ruddy is the son of a police officer in NYC and a confidant of Trump. Per Wiki he graduated from Hebrew University of Jerusalem for undergrad, but his first name suggests he's not Jewish. Is he? He describes himself as a "libertarian conservative" and Reaganite.

Agent76 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:20 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Nov 6, 2020 Biden war machine anxious to get back into Syria and cause chaos in Caucasus

https://www.youtube.com/embed/b_SzhntgMx4?feature=oembed

October 28, 2020 Report: Biden Would Kill Upwards Of 159K Jobs In Mich.

According to a recent study, Michigan supports around 159,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry, all of which would be eliminated under Biden's plan to achieve zero emissions by 2035.

https://www.oann.com/report-biden-would-kill-upwards-of-159k/

Oct 26, 2020 Biden discusses his debate comments on the oil industry during presser

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qMvn8be_P_M?feature=oembed

ThreeCranes , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine aph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html"> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html

http://www.sanctepater.com/2012/02/stone-age-europeans-were-first-to-set.html

Also, the tribes were not at war occasionally; they warred continuously. It was part of their life style, how a boy became a man.

See My Sixty Years on the Plains by W. T. Hamilton for eye witness testimony.

Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@glib

I'd say you're completely wrong about that.

The "redpilled" fully understand that America's foreign wars are a load of BS that profit the military industrial complex and certain lobbying groups – but not the USA itself.

God's Fool , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

To you, a Jew is an American nationalist because he is not a recent arrival, unlike, say, Ilhan Omar. I got your number you're not a nationalist but a paid up harlot masquerading, sadly, as a White nationalist.

Montefrío , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:33 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Malla class="comment-text">

"Like what North America, Australia, Argentina predominantly was before mass non -White migration"

Argentina? No mass non-White migration here, to speak of. This country since the white arrival has always been a mestizo society.The same is true of much of Central and more so South America. During this century in Argentina,there has been a substantial migration of Bolovins, Peruvians and Paraguyans thanks to the Kirchners (our Clintons) " Patria Grande " program that allowed them in, but it represents nothing on the scale of what has been done elsewhere to the north. Here the issue is less a color issue than a class issue.

Craig Nelsen , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@freedom-cat

But We'll give you MT, ND, SD, WY, IA, NB, KS, and Maybe OK.

You'll need to get Canada's permission before you give away New Brunswick.

I imagine the "honesty belt" would quickly become a desirable place to live compared to everywhere else, and the good solid folks in Honestan would again allow their resident shlomos to open the floodgates.

Gidoutahere , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Now, now – musn't step on any toes.

Rooster10 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:36 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

In order to be taken seriously you need some kind of united front. Take a look at even small minority groups such as the LGBTQ community, who maybe accounts for 3% of the US population, but has grown into a unified political force.

There also needs to be a consequence if your group is wronged. We have daily mainstream television shows that do nothing but make fun of White people and their traditions. The Muslims behead anyone who dares draw a stick figure of Muhammad, let alone entire programming dedicated to the denigration of their culture.

In order to defeat a bully, you need to punch them in the mouth. Right now many people are hopefully waking up to the fact that there is indeed a bully, then identifying exactly who that is, and finally taking some sort of action against the bully.

DaveE , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:40 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Priss Factor anded by their "G_d" to Rule the World, tikkun olam , " (b)light unto the nations " and 20 other descriptors for the megalomaniac tyrant known as the Jew, who lusts to control blacks, whites and everyone else in slavery to itself.

I do agree with the author that we White Nationalists need to lose our fear of defending our racial identity, but da' blacks ain't da' problem. The Jewish race / ideology that lusts to destroy us ALL – IS the problem.

Talking about black / white racial tensions as if they were the source of our problems is like worrying about dandruff on a cancer patient. So PLEASE, let's get to the point, shall we?

Wielgus , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:42 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Ugetit

And not so long ago Trump and Netanyahu were such buddies

ContrarianKen , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:43 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Increased white nationalism leads to increased anti-white-nationalism. Genociding indigenes makes white supremacists look evil. Trumpism leads to BLMism and Antifa. White wars of aggression lead to brown refugees going to Europe. God will turn Europe and North America black, red and yellow if He wants to, and He can do it by taking advantage of white people's pride and letting them do stupid "white supremacist" things that make them look bad.

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Questioner

So, we can all assume you've been giving 80 percent of your income and your house to a former resident of Pine Ridge County, South Dakota?

No?!!!!

The Spirit of Enoch Powell , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@geokat62

The pilpul by Miller is truly astonishing, comparing old British people to immigrants!

People like Miller serve the purpose of trying to rationalise the decisions of the other members of his Tribe, usually by gaslighting people into thinking they are crazy and nothing out of the normal is happening. Hence you see these crazy metaphors and analogies drawn by the likes of Miller in that clip.

God's Fool , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

"As many on our side have said, we will make no real and substantial progress until we are willing to openly stand up for ourselves -- in person, in broad daylight, and without sock puppets and noms de plume like "Jef Costello." Is that day imminent? I believe that it is."

In that case, let's have your real name practice what you preach!

P. S. My real name George Washington.

Malla , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:53 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Majority of One

Northwest Europeans share much in this perspective.

I would say, all Northern Europeans (both Eastern and Western) thus including the North Eastern Europeans like the Russians too share this.

Montefrío , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:56 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@noname27

"the bulk of black slaves went to the Spanish colonies, not the American colonies"

Could you please cite supporting evidence for this assertion? I think (but am unsure) it is incorrect. One thingof which I am certain, however,is that the Spaniards abolished slavery far earlier than the white Americans. Another is that Spaniards are also "white".

KenR , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:58 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

White males are the only group Trump did not make gains with in 2020.

Is that true? How does anybody know that? Exit polls?

After all these wildly inaccurate polls for four years, are we suddenly to believe polls now?

Furthermore, consider this: The one group you can steal votes from if you're the Democrats are the white males. This is where you would do it. You can't steal any from the column of black voters -- since they vote 90% for you already there simply aren't enough to steal. You steal them from the white males, it's a beautiful double-whammy. One, you get your stolen victory; two, you demoralize the strongest group arrayed against you.

God's Fool , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:03 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

"In my experience, the only tiny minority of Muslim people who have caused friction are invariably of Arab origin, and more specifically from Saudi Arabia – an inherently tribal & chauvinistic culture (and a key American ally in the Middle East – just sayin')."

Unfortunately, Arabs, in particular Saudis, are a horrible disease that needs to be removed by all means, including thermo nuclear radiation therapy!

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:06 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Robert Dolan

What I don't get, from the likes of sweethearts like Pedro

how does the fact that the Sioux were riding their horses across Colorado before we got here, make it mean that Mexican half-Aztec / half Spaniards have a right to come and steal it from *us* ?

If we stole it from the Sioux as he says, the presence of his lardbutt here means he is accepting stolen goods, which means his sin is as big as -- or bigger than -- ours.

tomo , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:07 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Priss Factor

I keep telling blacks about jews and slavery in JUSA – they pretend they don't believe what I am saying even though I provide evidence (from this website).
I guess they are more opportunistic than I thought and less brave, hoping their jewish masters will somehow help them get more money from white people, so they don't want to bite the hand they expect will feed them

Mike Tre , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:14 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Tucker

Perhaps the point is there are no peaceful solutions left for whites, and only violent alternatives remain.

Zarathustra , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:16 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

To whom the land belongs?
At one time in world history all land did belong to dinosaurs.
So how to do justice about ownership of the land?
Human beings should kill each other until no human being left, and than the land will belong to its rightful owners again, the animals.
Native Americans were the ones who had this right idea.
They were killing each other and eating each other.
..
Did somebody ask Dahmer if human flesh taste better than chicken?

Superman to the Rescue , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:21 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Someone for the love of God please start an American Nationalist conference and invite all people who have the tiniest shred of dignity left in this chemical plagued population.

The goal of the conference: to discuss starting a political party that will be a valid third party option. Agendas to be fleshed out: donor registration, billboard campaigns, multi-state speeches targeting smaller towns that have been boarded up, setting up a volunteer network of security operatives to forcibly secure election integrity, etc.

This stuff isn't rocket science and I don't understand why so many people who have money and claim to be for WHITE NATIONALISM have not pushed their people in this direction. BUT IF YOU DONT HAVE MONEY and are interested in this let me share with you a secret to start it. Get 10 under-writers who will lend $5,000 for a total of $50k. $50,000 should be enough to get the ball rolling. I would be willing to help $. If you sell enough tickets you can pay the lenders back. Secure a venue and promote tickets to the conference across multiple platforms.

Just an idea for saving our people in this midnight hour.

europeasant , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

"I suggest adjusting the author's arguments to recognise the actual fundamental issue in play, which is not skin colour or race or language, but CULTURE"

I call BS. You are one of those people who believe that NURTURE is everything and NATURE accounts for nothing. A very foolish mindset. A deluded mindset. Do some research and come back after you have learned something from the real world and not from your Marxist professors.

Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:25 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@DaveE

It's not Jews (technically JewISH). It is the multitudes of all races around the world, who have ignored the word of God, and chosen the JewISH (and Catholic, at the top) agenda, as the preferred way of life.

Crush Limbraw , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 4:26 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

This frank article confirms pretty much what I posted in DaLimbraw Library over a year ago – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2019/08/white-supremacy-is-it-time-to-face.html?m=0 – a summary of articles on Western Civilization with links provided. Requires some serious reading!
History shows that WC was built on Christianity, Graeco-Roman law traditions and primarily in Europe – meaning the White race. That's just fact!
White supremacy – if it ever returns – might just save our Western Civilization!

Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:27 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@jsm

Hey, how ya been, Sheila?

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@theMann

Now that is a darn good point. I was in Texas just last year and was shocked by what I found.

In Austin, young people presumably from California have ruined the place. Won't be going there again.

Things done changed.

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:35 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Justvisiting

Very good.

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:37 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Cauchemar du Singe

Quite right. Managed by Jews.

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@jsm

I had an excellent exchange with a retarded mexican a while back, as the stupid pos was blabbing that whitey "stole this land from the indigenous people," (HIS people -- -mexican cretins.)

I said, "Oh really? Hmmm ..what tribe are you from?"

Empty stare.

"Are you Apache? Comanche? Sioux? The El Chapo tribe?"

The dumb motherfucker walked away in a huff.

tomo , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:40 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave nd is to what they were mislead to believe I see it here with my African friends, Swiss, other Europeans etc everyone I know has experienced this
So this kind of betrayal and feeling of being tricked also contributes to whether they assimilate (and what there really is to assimilate into when the new host country has no culture whatsoever to offer to anyone, including the natives – apart from shopping and watching TV).
Plus add to this the feeling that say the 800 000 refugees imported last year understand that Canadistan actually played a role in destroying their countries and their desire to assimilate or to respect the new country diminishes even further.
Orville H. Larson , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:48 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@mark green

"Ron Unz has given the world a forum where countless and controversial and conflicting points of view are given oxygen and light. This is invaluable and rare."

I associate myself your comment.

Malla , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:49 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Majority of One
How an Amish Gentleman (he is really one) handles a racism issue, how he handles a triggered lefty, chip on the shoulder, black "British" spoilt snobby urban London girl Sienna on some bullshit "racist" incident. How wise the Amish are compared the "English" (non Amish White American folk) around them!!!
One would be surprised (or not so surprised if you do not fall for typical Jew media/ history stereotypes) that the most snobby arrogant person among the six British youth who went and lived among the Amish in the USA in this British TV series was the black girl Sienna whose parents are from Africa.
Check out the comment section, everybody hates Sienna.
Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:57 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Pedro

White people, and only white people created and built the country of the USA. No one else.

We are home. You primitives had every opportunity to create a country, but you were too stupid, too primitive, and too savage to do so.

Too bad, so sad.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:58 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

So there are approximately 330 million people in America, and the latest vote count shows that 150 million or thereabouts voted in this election? NO WAY IN HELL. To be honest I don't think Trump received over 70 million LEGITIMATE VOTES much less Biden. I think they have Biden at 75 or 77 million right now, can't remember which. LMAO. NO WAY IN HELL JOE BIDEN HAS RECEIVED 75-77 LEGITIMATE VOTES.

Think about it people. Think of the people too young to vote, the people incarcerated, the people who don't ever vote, the people so old that they just don't give a damn like the ones in nursing homes, etc. Just the other day, I was talking to the Orkin man who sprayed my house, and he stated he didn't even vote. Well, given I was flying a Trump flag maybe the guy was being diplomatic or lying but who knows? I think another LIE in this STOLEN election is the total vote count. I guess the people who stole the vote for Biden and manufactured that Biden accumulated close to 80 million votes had to even up Trump's votes to make this fairy tale seem somewhat believable.

John Johnson , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:05 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

First of all I don't identify as White nationalist. When I lived in a liberal city I couldn't stand being around White people. I would much rather live in Mexico than around liberal Whites. Urban Whites especially can be really annoying regardless of politics. They want to be morally right and feel intellectually superior without having to do any work or give any explanation as to why. They want to feel cosmopolitan and view any dissention as a thorn in the side to their unexplained superiority.

Will White people be red pilled by this election? Nope.

We have the internet and most White people can't seem to be bothered with spending a couple nights reading about how both Con Inc and liberals lie about race. Intellectual laziness abounds.

Most of those Trump voting Republicans really believe that we can turn every Black family into the Huxtables with the right level of minimal government/low taxes/etc. They really believe this. It's shocking.

There is no silver lining with this election. It's a disaster.

Too many White people choose to live in a false reality where race doesn't exist. Our best hope is that White egalitarian leftists breed out themselves off by having few or no children. Then we'll probably have to align with Hispanics to end the welfare system. Don't get mad at me for pointing that out. Go take it up with the moron conservatives still pushing Alisa Rosenbaum fantasy over facts.

Dum Spiro Spero , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:06 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

Two things can happen: that Trump wins (which would be something of justice), and that the whites go looking for their places in the United States.
In fact, this is what has already happened in California for years: whites are leaving that state.

Hans Scott , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:13 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

God forbid! But IF Beijing Biden slithers his way into the WH the 1619 Project will be the theme of the US Govt. Which, of course, means that we don't belong here..Well, if we don't belong here then we can only go back to Europe. Who cares if the anti-white EU countries don't want us? They've spent the last several years taking in destructive, horny, hostile opportunistic welfare shopping scum if there's room for them there's room for us. Unless they want us to stay here and be genocided like the S. Africans.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:17 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@sparky

If the white evil scum invaders had come in peace without their guns the natives wouldn't have wanted revenge.

Its somewhat ironic that guns and more guns are the scary part of modern central North America but i guess what goes around comes around.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

Concluding paragraphs to Chuck Baldwin's latest column, Almost No One Else Will Say It, So I Must :

That's why Benjamin Netanyahu already congratulated Joe Biden on an election victory -- even before the election was firmly decided. He is keenly aware of the exponential rise in Zionist power and influence that accompanies the Harris family rise to the White House.

Amazingly, many evangelicals continue to stupidly believe that Netanyahu (and Zionism itself) is a friend of the United States and a friend of Christianity. What dupes!

In a real sense, the rise of the Marxist attack against America, personified in Kamala Harris, can be, at least partially, attributed to the misguided support for Zionism among our evangelical churches.

As I said, almost no one else will say it, so I must.

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/4078/Almost-No-One-Else-Will-Say-It-So-I-Must.aspx

Anonymous Jew , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

To bolster your argument against the Left, instead of identifying first as a "White Nationalist" you should say, simply, that you are an Ethnic Nationalist. That makes your argument harder to refute and highlights the logical inconsistency of the Left's argument, which, at its core, is really just anti-White.

As I point out to people, I'm a Tibetan Nationalist and an Anglo-American Nationalist; a Black Nationalist but also a White Nationalist. All ethnic groups are entitled to their sovereignty, lands and control of their borders. Humans are tribal and need common cultural ties to maintain social capital and build a functioning society. This should be common sense, but somehow it's instead become taboo.

Bill , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:19 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Trinity

Trump did expose the "normies" to the FAKE MEDIA.

In other words, Trump made the same arguments Republicans have been making for 50 years. Coincidentally, he also pursued the same policies Republicans have been pursuing for 50 years.

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:21 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Robert Dolan

Love this. Can I steal it?

Beautiful Evidence , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:22 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

Longer viewer:
Folks are acting like elections have not been stolen in the past. Get real.
Folks are acting like our government has not been completely corporate-owned since Reagan. Get real.
Folks are acting like the Talmudic syndicate has played no role whatsoever in this scam. Get real.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Superman to the Rescue

Someone for the love of God please start an American Nationalist conference The goal of the conference: to discuss starting a political party that will be a valid third party option.

National Justice Party Statement on the 2020 Presidential Election

https://nationaljusticeparty.com/2020/11/06/national-justice-party-statement-on-the-2020-presidential-election/

John Johnson , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Genrick Yagoda haven't created an America somewhere else.

Everyone hates White people and yet everyone wants to move to White countries.

Leftists tell us this is because Whites are bad and have colluded against everyone. That is the reason behind their success.

So build America in Africa without them? Why is this not the plan? Would it not prove that egalitarians were correct all along? Funny how the plan of the leftist to move the third world to White countries. There seems to be zero dissention along this line. All leftists agree by their actions that assimilating White countries for their ideals is more viable than building a new America without Whites.

Rurik , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

BREAKING: Trump Drops Bombshell Tweet, Alleges 2.7 Million Trump Votes Were Deleted

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-trump-drops-bombshell-tweet-alleges-2-7-million-trump-votes-were-deleted/

I just posted this to Unz's new Breaking News site

https://www.unz.com/news/

if this is true, and verifiable, it could be consequential

Something tells me Trump must have some pretty good evidence for him to post something so momentous at this particular point in time.

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:28 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Ilya G Poimandres develop the vaccine).

Trump is taking on Big Ag. He's taking on the military as best he can; he hasn't started any new wars.

Trump is taking on the U.S. multinational corporations who took the jobs overseas (tariffs).

Trump is taking on the fraud in the election system. DNC's top election guru just resigned (yeah, I bet he did!) Trump is exposing the algorithms in the Dominion Voting System.

Trump got 72 million votes. He owns the Republican Party now! They have been fighting him up until this point, but they are now realizing that they are nothing without Trump.

If Trump were to start a third party, look out! How's that for leading?

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:32 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine

The very first white man who tied to live with the Stone Age Siberian Savages was Etienne Brule. He was part of Cartier's exploration team in the early 1600's.

When Cartier returned and inquired about Etienne he was informed that the Siberian savages murdered, scalped and ATE him.

May the spirits of Siberian Savages be suffering the endless tortures they would visit on their victims.

John Johnson , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:32 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine tives wouldn't have wanted revenge.

What makes you think the Chinese or Japanese would have left the Americas alone?

This is some egalitarian fantasy of the Americas remaining scarcely populated with warring tribes. As if the rest of the world would have left it as a nature preserve.

It was never a country and in fact the tribes would align with warring European countries against other tribes. That of course probably wasn't mentioned in your White guilt history class. Numerous tribes used Europeans and their tools as a means of enacting revenge against their traditional enemies. Read about the Blackfoot for a politically incorrect reality check.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:35 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Trinity

I like to think that the Indians were just exacting pure revenge against the gun toting euro invaders and your wrong i am of irish white heritage and don't make me laugh about torture and despicable human acts as i have seen those pictures of massive piles of bison that were gunned down by invading euro scum that were attempting to starve the natives.

Anonymous [502] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

It doesn't matter who the president is, you know that Hillary Clinton didn't lose and Trump didn't win, but here's the president, Obama didn't want to do exactly what you're doing now, and he didn't want to launch an investigation. You are directly pushing America into a civil war, by a "fraud of choice" that has no evidence. Indeed, you are pushing everyone into the catastrophe of the Civil War. You know very well that everything Trump claimed was a lie, and half the world was accused of lies, nowhere is evidence and the UN laughs at him, but you claim that now Trump claims the truth once in his life, again without a dictatorship.

Dum Spiro Spero , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:44 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

If Trump loses, the consequences would be dire.
We are interested in Trump winning.
On the other hand, the strength of the whites was their Christian and authentic religion. Not their race. In the Middle Ages it was the Church that defended Europe from the Muslim invasion.
Nowadays an infiltrator is seated in Pedro's See, Bergoglio does not think like a Catholic.
Only with that faith can our culture and our lives be saved.

Wally , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:46 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Questioner

Genocide not. The fake "indigenous people" / little dummies are everywhere and have a complete free ride with plenty of taxpayers cash ("rent") to stay loaded on, to avoid any personal responsibility.
And clearly, American Indians were "xenophobic" / "racist" in resisting European migrants.
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Anonymous [353] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:47 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

It seems rather odd and highly suspicious that so called NATIONALISTS CONSERVATIVES (whites) propose cowardice in the face of aggression they all claim to be so outraged so contrived BUT all of them propose INACTION now this is the main reason YOU/WE are LOSING America we bowed our heads, weeping sorrowful and thats all The DEMS implemented 4yrs of on the ground campaign of terror they were called BLMANTIFA a permanent campaign of terror And NOW the CONSERVATIVE NATIONALISTS suggests stupidity separation, repatriation, secession ALL DUMB STUPID RANTS UTOPIAS .WE MUST STAND OUR GROUND NOW NOW History, legality, morality, is on OUR SIDE and people know it .THE MAIN THRUS SHOULD BE MUST BE MASSIVE RED STATES REVOLT 1776mII REDUX .By the time dictator Biden finish his first year HE would had used his excutive powers, and in coalition with BLUE/RINOS enacted a NEW CONSTITUTION, REDO THE ELECTORAL FRAMEWORKS so that NO RED Nationalist will ever be elected again,,,never,,,so called ANTI TRUMP LEGISLATIONS which really means ANTIWHITE laws an AMERICAN JIM CROW LAWS IN REVERSE dont you see the perils to come its not about utopias, there is no tomorrow..unless WE FIGHT NOW mass revolts peacefully???? 1776 II MILITIAS..

The Wild Geese Howard , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:52 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Malla

the Japanese too cannot live and do well in live in multiracial Ottoman-Byzantine like societies.

Isn't there a large Japanese diaspora doing well in Brazil and Peru?

The Chinese too will be rejected by the darkie masses in the future,

I have a hard time seeing the Chinese falling for that shuck and jive unless they become a completely Christian society, all the way to the top of the pyramid.

Robot9000 , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:54 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Priss Factor

This post was better than OP. I am suspicious the author ripped on blacks but had nothing to say about Jews.

Twodees Partain , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:56 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

right now, less than a week after polls closed And, as the Biden camp continues to vote

I don't know whether or not red-pilling Trump's fans will help, but it should already be obvious to those with eyes open that too many people believe whatever they see and hear on TV. It's entirely possible that most of the Trump supporters won't be red-pilled at all.

Even Americans who don't particularly like or trust Trump may be disgusted enough with the blatant media push to declare Biden the winner, that they decide not to allow it any more. That may be enough to get some of them to decide that waiting for government to "do something" is a waste of time.

If the rioters decide to riot in celebration of Biden's win, or in outrage over his win being revealed as fraud and rejected, some number of Americans could just decide to shut the rioters down themselves. It wouldn't be that hard for armed Americans who know how to fight, and there are hundreds of thousands of combat vets with recent experience who just might go ahead and do it.

One thing's for sure, they won't be giving any warning on social media before they hit back.

Mr. Anon , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:56 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Zarathustra

I think Biden also does deserve a chance to come up with solutions.

He already has: To imprison you in your home, Melbourne-style, for 4-6 weeks.

The Wild Geese Howard , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:59 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Thomasina

If the courts follow the letter of the law, Trump WILL prevail.

Unfortunately, courts are run by judges, who are all flawed people in their own right.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:01 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine and despicable human acts as i have seen those pictures of massive piles of bison

They tortured the bison! The horror!

I guess you have never heard about Buffalo Jumps, then?

You may claim to be white, but it's clear you have had your empty head filled by Anti-White delusional lies. The Siberians were so savage that during the French Indian wars the French troops finally refused to fight alongside their Indian allies, because they were savage to the point that the French viewed them as being similar to the THE XENOMORPHS from the movie Aliens.

Imagine being such a primitive savage that your own allies abandon you in a time of war. glib , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:08 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

@Rogue

excellent. In The last 20 years they have changed deeply. Because only 17 years ago they were all gung ho about destroying Iraq. Perhaps a bit of depleted uranium shot into Peoria will cement their views.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:10 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Bill lifetime. The only politicians who really gave a damn about Whites in my lifetime were Dixiecrats, and probably most of them were good ole boy crooks who just talked a good game but CAVED eventually. Hell, Strom Thurmond fathered a mixed race daughter IF I am not mistaken.

Tell me what did all the Presidents from JFK to Obama do to make this nation better? And before you give the standard JFK horseshit, JFK was all for the multiracial plan for America, and he sure supported integration of schools down South. Okay, let me hear what President in the last century REALLY LOOKED OUT FOR WHITE INTERESTS OVER JEWISH OR NONWHITE INTERESTS. I got time and I am all ears.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine

The point is whites did nothing that any one of those tribes wouldn't have done to all the others if they had had the power to do it. (If anything, whites treated them much better than they treated each other.) We might look at that from the vantage point of 21st century morality and call it awful – just as we might with the Mongol or Islamo-Arab conquests – but it would remain 'ancient history,' not something to constantly dredge up in order to instill racial guilt and gain political advantage.

The Real World , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@AKINDLE

Akindle = another sheltered, uninformed, inexperienced racist and skin color supremacist.

Color me not shocked.

Pls make the world a better place and crawl back into your hole. Sunlight is too difficult for you.Thanks

omegabooks , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:22 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

We'll see about the "red pilled" part, but even liberals out here, even ones who voted Biden, are NOT convinced Biden-Harris won legitimately. And who knows? Maybe the criminal psycho elites realized perhaps awakening a couple 'o hundred million gun owners was a but premature and will "allow" Trump to retake the White House I mean, Biden's doing what Biden was gonna do .make the whole damned thing look illegit. And NOBODY out here has anything but distrust when it comes to Harris one liberal from Commie-fornia who lived there knows Harris is evil.

Really it all come down to these–will we let them take our guns, will we let them force vaccines on us, and will we let them burn this nation to the ground while forcing all rural folks into stack 'n packs, Agenda 2030 style?

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:27 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@utu o if there was ever a serious prospect it might happen, they would probably want to separate as well. And why not? Ultimately, we're all better off living around people more like ourselves than less like ourselves. (Duh)

And why would anyone be required to call himself a 'bantustan nationalist'? When Mexicans arrive in America they don't suddenly cease to call themselves Mexican, so why should Americans stop calling themselves American simply because of an altered political geography? For an intelligent man, it's astonishing how quickly you transform into a blithering idiot the moment you begin discussing issues that emotionally disturb you.

Richard B , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:29 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Priss Factor

White Liberationist is better.

Good suggestion. Perhaps some can think of others. Either way, it's good because it's more cultural than political, at least it sounds that way, and because it puts the focus exactly where it belongs, on our basic freedoms.

One thing's for certain. Putting ideology and politics before race and culture, ie; Right = White (and visa versa) will be like shooting yourself in the foot before running a marathon in difficult terrain. In other words, it'd be a piece of unforgivable stupidity. And irreversible as well. Since, if this is flubbed, a second chance will not come again.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:30 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Robert Dolan

All human DNA is southern African you numpty.

I guess for some white yanks the truth about the birth of their country is a little too close to the bone for their liking and a bit too raw and painful but the truth is the truth and shame on all the euro invaders of all of the Americas in the past.

omegabooks , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:30 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Ralph Seymour

Try coming out to rural remote far west Texas .Austin isn't all of Texas. And I said rural, not El Paso!
And, oh yeah, Midland-Odessa, Lubbock, Amarillo that is, all of Texas except El Paso westward of the San Antonio-Austin lib-tard areas (including artsy-fartsy Marfa they may like Biden but the don't like Harris if you know what I mean).

Richard B , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:46 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@silviosilver e superior too?

JSI is basically a criminal organization that wants power. Everything they say and do flows from this. They are The People Of The Lie . The point is, you might be able to obtain control of a culture or civilization through lies. But you can't run it that way.

And now we're back to the point you raise in your comment and what it directs our attention to. It directs our attention to what we're witnessing, to what anyone can see as soon as they stop talking about how powerful they are and how screwed everyone else is. Enough! No. What we're witnessing is nothing less than The Pyrrhic Victory Of Jewish Supremacy Inc .

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:51 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine I think your heart is in the right place, I and I respect that, but instead of trying to right things that are ancient history how about focusing on what IS HAPPENING TO YOUR PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. Whites are being slaughtered in South Africa. Little children being held hostage while they watch their mother raped right in front of their eyes, entire families of Whites being butchered by racist Black thugs. I am all for you pointing out how Whites were guilty of mistreating the Native American, but I would also ask you to point that passion to something that is going on RIGHT NOW, something that didn't happen long ago and can't be changed. YOUR OWN PEOPLE are suffering, does that not bother you?
randall r , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:54 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

What a bad joke the dissident right wignat faction turned out to be.

Richard Spencer and the bugger accounts aligned with his views are doing nothing but spamming straight-up system propaganda, a lot of which has migrated onto these pages.

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:54 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

This article in the The American Conservative shows how much the conservatives still do not get it:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-realignment-is-real/

The author Jonathan Van Maren seems to think the American electorate has realigned itself with social conservatism + economic populism on the GOP side, and progressivism, elitism and Big tech on DNC side. Based on this, he calls for the GOP to use social conservatism specifically anti-abortion, anti-assisted suicide, pro medicare, pro social security to appeal to a coalition of working class America including blacks and Latinos.

The main reason people like me voted for Trump is because of immigration and non-interventionism which he promised on his campaign trail in 2016. We want to see America end the endless wars and the endless immigration . I could care less about abortion, assisted suicide, medicare or social security.

Once again, the social conservatives missed the boat and are now calling for more coalition with Latinos, which probably means support for more immigration as George W. did, because Latinos make good conservatives, right? When will these idiots wake up?! Have they been reading Ron Unz's misleading articles on Hispanic crime? Ann Coulter was so right. The Republican party is the stupid party, and it's because it's run by tone deaf "conservatives" that run webzines like TAC and National Review.

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:57 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Rurik

Yes, Trump tweeted out: "We will win!"

Just read at The Duran: "Obama lackey John Pilger resigns from DOJ election crimes job."

Maybe Mr. Pilger knows something too? Maybe he resigned before being fired? Maybe those Dominion Voting machines have been compromised using algorithms?

This is heating up. I actually believe Trump will win.

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:04 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@omegabooks

North West Texas is still good? Thank you for that. Because the rest of it is depressing.

follyofwar , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:11 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Tucker y the Jews? Has it worked for European man, or, with its strictures to turn the other cheek, has it made him a second class citizen? That was my thoughts when I saw so many disgusting, pathetic whites bowing down and kissing the boots of BLM Supremacists this summer.

In any case, unless one is so hopelessly wedded to Christianity that his mind is closed, an article written by Thomas Dalton, "Christianity: The Great Jewish Hoax," has taken the Christian myth head on (National Vanguard, 9 Aug 2020). Indeed, as Israel-first Evangelicals have taken control of Christianity in the US, we should ask if devotion to a Middle Eastern Jew named Jesus is helping or hurting our cause.

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:13 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Richard B r with the foreigners; and this spirit of wear, principle of any cowardice, is so natural in their hearts, that it is the continual object of the figures that they employ in the species of eloquence which is proper for them. Their glory is to put at fire and blood the small villages they can seize. They cut the throat of the old men and the children; they hold only the girls nubiles; they assassinate their Masters when they are slaves; they can never forgive when they are victorious: they are enemy of the human mankind. No courtesy, no science, no art improved in any time, in this atrocious nation. -- Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 2, page 83
Whitewolf , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:15 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave pon its introduction. Since then the government has provided tax incentives to people paying for private insurance. Basically you pay a reduced medicare levy if you have private insurance. The Australian medical system has it's faults like long waiting times for elective surgery etc but it's still pretty good.

On the immigration front though Australia is in worse shape than the US. We have a much smaller population and it doesn't take as much third world immigration to turn it into a third world country. Especially since many use New Zealand as a back door into Australia. Australia is already unrecognisable from even just 20 years ago. In another 20 it's likely to resemble Brazil.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:17 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Syd Walker

proposing a civil war in the 21st century to create a "whites only" state in North America is so nutty it breaks the dial.

Your observation is clearly correct.

I'd like to add two speculations to this –

1. The civil war is no longer a proposition, it's been underway for some time.

2. Racial friction is being managed as one of several pretexts to rally enthusiasm for that war.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:19 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@christine

Yet another empty-headed anti-White idiot comment.

Man originated in Europe, not Africa. White people have NEVER been Africans.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/

Mr. Anon , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:20 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

Trump has now moved over to Gab, a free-speech platform that has embraced thought criminals of all kinds (so far). Trump's supporters will follow him to Gab -- millions of them. They will read the other stuff and become more red-pilled. You can almost predict this one with mathematical certainty.

Lots of conservatives are now departing Facebook and Twitter for other social media platforms that are less restrictive. This will further separate the left and right in this country, as they'll have even that much less in common. It will separate families, with liberals staying on Facebook, and their conservative family members leaving, decreasing communication between them, especially now with all the Corona bulls ** t being used to suppress the association of people in meat-space.

Bill , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:27 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Tucker

But, anyone who actively promotes the idea that Whites should just completely opt out is pushing advice that is exactly what our mortal enemies want most.

They are oddly quiet about it. Unlike everything else they want.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:28 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@noname27

YOU are a part of the problem and your infantile, asinine handle proves it.

Hey, it was either that, or Scrotie McBoogerballs.

I believe I made the principled choice.

Anonymous [330] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:30 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

A worthwhile article.

White people are going to need to get good at living in diaspora, since that's where we are at now. We need to adopt tribal methods similar to the way other tribes operate. For example, spending a little more to buy from our own people. Finding a way to brand white ownership. Finding a way to associate said white ownership with white activism.

It is no good giving money to a local, vice signalling white traitor. It would be better to get cheap products from a multinational, at least you get value for money. However, we need to find ways of rewarding our own financially. We need to ensure that money goes out for things of value – land, buildings, shares of companies, etc. Money comes in from the fruit of our labor and intellect.

It isn't going to be easy because Jews have attempted to criminalize many of the things we would like to do (specifically us, while giving other races/ethnicities a pass), but we can find ways around that.

It will be easier to live in diaspora than via separatism.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:37 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

The author is an idiot. To begin with, not all 70 million or so people who voted for Trump were White. He received, what, 30% of the Hispanic vote. Also, approximately 20% of black males voted for Trump.
Your guy just lost flatout. He was unpopular.
70 million means what? I call that pathetic compared to what Biden got.
Btw, you guys were able to be racist the last four years. Sit your butt down the next 4 years because you White nationalists suck ass.
Urban Whites don't like you, period.
Whites invented everything? Even if that was the case, it came from URBAN WHITES. You mother fuckers, whose ancestors are probably farmboys, only take credit.
What have rural whites achieved? Nothing besides taking credit.
Besides all this, due to immigration, most of the entrepreneurs and inventors are liberal immigrants.
Bottomline is that liverals invented everything. Rural hillbillies did shit!

P.S. Bow down to Biden.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:39 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@randall r n that over the top cartoon character seriously to being with. He reminded me of some of those (((actors))) who frequented those '90's talk shows like Donahue or Doprah Pigfrey portraying "White Supremacists" or foaming at the mouth skinhead so called "neo-Nazis." haha. I think they found out that half of those characters were Jews who worked for the ADL or at least some them were. All portrayed the same old stereotype of an evil White racist who shocked the audience by saying "niggers" or just portraying anyone who is pro-White civil rights as a maniacal neanderthal. My gaydar always went off every time I watched a video of Spencer speaking that MANUFACTURED horseshit anyhow.
Reg Cæsar , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:43 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Priss Factor

Go Palestinians.

Only the Christians. The rest can "go" back to Arabia.

Mohammedans are our enemy. Their prophet said so. Racially, Arabs are just poor, stupid Jews– unless they live above oil, then they're rich, stupid Jews. The problem with your analysis is that it isn't anti-Semitic enough .

And tell blacks that Jews exploit them for profits.

Tell Mexicans that Jews hog all the wealth.

They already know. They don't care. Just someone different to kiss up to.

Peter Frost , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:48 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@tomo istic culture that is foreign to them and which makes them feel alone and inferior. So they respond accordingly. The same is true for young Canadians in general.

I agree that immigrants are no longer assimilating, but not because Canada lacks a strong sense of national identity. The main reasons are demographic and technological. Immigrants now arrive in such large numbers that they end up interacting only with each other. They can also watch TV programming in their own language, via the Internet or cable TV, and communicate with people back home via Skype or social media.

Assimilation takes effort, even in ideal conditions, so more and more immigrants are taking the easy way out. They learn enough English or French for work, and that's usually enough.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:48 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@lavoisier he government has to stop shoving diversity down our throats continuously.

I think this is one area where most objective people can agree.

Idiotic attempts by governments at social engineering and correcting past injustices by penalising the present population continue to be rolling disasters worldwide.

I would think the German people might eventually rebel against their perpetual financial tribute to the Holocaust doctrine, if not for the current crop of self-inflicted immigration problems engulfing Europe.

I also suspect that the "white supremacist" propaganda isn't a benevolent attempt to correct society's problems. Rather, it looks more like part of a coordinated destructive strategy to dismantle the existing society. Wielgus , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

@geokat62

Miller's maternal grandfather had sought to emigrate to the USA from Lithuania and got off the ship at its destination, which he thought was New York. It was in fact Cork in Ireland. His daughter, Miller's father, became a well-known novelist in Ireland.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:53 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@silviosilver dn't commit a long long time ago?.

For me its more about recognition of past evils and their karmic effect on a nation and the color of skin doesn't come into it at all really but i do have a real soft spot for the native North American Indian cause because i have had shamanic past life recollections of being one and so i will always side with the Indians over the disgusting European invaders of North America and i will never ever forget those photos i have seen of absolutely humungous piles of shot Bison that were killed in an attempted genocide of the Indians and if the Indians scalped many out of revenge then i hope that the pain was excruciatingly intense.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:02 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

Here is something to consider: Liberals in general are happy people. Conservatives, on the other hand, have a victim mentality.
You could see that conservatives had this victim mentality even under Trump.
Also, from my own experience, the conservative types have fucked up lives. Due to their own issues, they lash out.
Could it not be that the reason you have a bad life is due to your own problems? Instead of blaming immigrants or blacks and hispanics, consider looking at your own life.

Reg Cæsar , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:04 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@DaveE terialism is genocide. Autogenocide.

If Adam and Eve are too Jewish for you, there is always Ask and Embla . Or Deucalion and Pyrrha . Or Dr Yakub .

Authenticjazzman , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:08 pm GMT • 23.9 hours ago
@Muaddib your idiotic mouth.

"It came from urban whites". At the time of the greate innovative wave in the US there was no such thing as "Urban" citizenry, as almost all major towns were located directly within farming territory, and a cosmopolitan mentality was nowhere to be found, guys like Edison, Ford,Tesla, held absolutely no connection to any sort of "Liberal" worldview.

Name a few of "Liberal" "Inventions" Come on give a list thereof.

You are a bloody ignoramous and full of shit up to your ears. You have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

AJM "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

DT 2020

AnonFromTN , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT • 23.7 hours ago
@Muaddib

Bow down to Biden.

Logic is certainly not your strong suit. Why would people of any color capable of anything worth mentioning bow down to a corrupt senile stuffed shirt?

wakeupscreaming , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT • 23.7 hours ago

"At this point, it seems unlikely that Trump is going to prevail in his legal challenges. "

Oh, do you know something we don't?
I've been reading tons of alternative media, and it's looking good for President Trump.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT • 23.7 hours ago
@Questioner nk it would probably be best for you and all those who agree with you to kill their family and extended family, and then blow their own brains out. Firstly, to atone for "white guilt" and "white privilege" and secondly as a constructive means of reducing the white population in these "stolen" Injun lands. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Of course, if you worthless cunts can't summon the nerve to do that, then you should at the very least, REMOVE YOUR OWN WHITE ITINERANT ASS from this "stolen land".

Africa, China or Mexico beckons. Bon Voyage!

It's known as "leadership by example".

We won't be holding our breath.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:27 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Muaddib The average Biden voter = anti-White and yes there are anti-White white people, I call them WINOs short for White In Name Only or better yet, white traitor trash

I think liberals have went the way of the Dodo Bird. And no, racist Jews, who PRETEND to love everyone Black, Brown, etc., anyone except Whites are only pretending to love POC to USE THEM against Whitey. Case in point, in Israel they export African Jews all the time proving that Judaism isn't a religion but a race. Nope, I doubt Sammy Davis Jr. would have ever truly been welcomed to move to Israel. And there is no such thing as a nonwhite liberal, nonwhites are tribal as hell and only out for themselves.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:28 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman ated? How about, uh, everything, including the internet you are using? Yes, and immigants and minorities contributed.
If you don't like liberals, maybe you should start by turning off your computer.
But let me guess, you want to breathe the liberal air.
You brag about your Mensa score. And what did you achive with that? Hatred for liberals? So what good was your Mensa? It was probably a fraud.
Look around you. The world has changed. You are basically an Amish in a sea of modernity.
This is what you get when you don't meet people of all types.
Just old, disgruntled and blaming others because your life wasn't ideal.
Authenticjazzman , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:30 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Muaddib

"Liberals are in general happy people"

Yeah this is why they fill the waiting rooms of shrinks to be pumped full of psycho-drugs, and resort to "screaming at the sky" when their political party loses an election.

Liberals are the most disturbed, troubled grouping of individuals to be found world-wide. They are the nut-cases who stick themselves full of needles and pins , and dye their hair blue so as to present their deranged worldview for all to see.

Again you are a hopeless moron and have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

AJM

gay troll , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:31 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Zarathustra

Indeed, all land belongs to the birds. Humans may only claim sovereignty to the indoors.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:34 pm GMT • 23.5 hours ago
@Muaddib

Here is something to consider: Liberals in general are happy people. Conservatives, on the other hand, have a victim mentality.

Yes, we've seen myriad examples of those happy, well adjusted, tolerant "Liberal" people over the last four years. When they're not freaking out or breaking down, they're "lashing out" in the form of assaulting, burning, destroying, looting, and murdering etc

Certainly an inspiring example for us all.

What color is the sky in your world, numbnuts?

Art , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:35 pm GMT • 23.5 hours ago

Hmm -- not one "Jew" word!

Is the author of this article a coward – he attacks the weak blacks – and ignores the overpowering Jews.

Blacks are not America's problem – Jews are.

Do blacks own and or control social media, print media, broadcast media, Congress, the president, schools, Wall Street, and the Fed – or is it Jews. Be honest.

It is the Jews who siphon our wealth and divide us.

Jews control the cities that are devastated by black crime. Get the Jews out of control, and things will improve. Guaranteed!

Societies need both a political left and a political right – the Jew control of the left is killing America. (Actually, they control both.)

Jeff Costello needs to put on his big boy pants and attack the true evil in America.

PolarBear , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:42 pm GMT • 23.4 hours ago
@Pedro

Plenty in the US are pure Europeans. Many Nordic and German families are recent immigrants. Old Colonials often have slight Native admixture. Bantu Africans, Aztecs, ect. need to return all stolen territory aswell then.

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:44 pm GMT • 23.3 hours ago
@Wielgus

And not so long ago Trump and Netanyahu were such buddies

That, my friend, was exactly why I posted that. Thank you for emphasizing the point.

In case Wally doesn't get it, new boss is much the same as the old boss, and Netanyahu was never a friend to either, not that it should come as a surprise to anyone. Netanyahu won't give Trump a second thought after the "ingrovelation."

Sad stuff.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:45 pm GMT • 23.3 hours ago
@Trinity

Huh?
Jews this and that. This is the problem with White Nationalists. You believe in conspiracy theories.
Newsflash: Soros does not control anything. He is old, and about to die. He has money. He is pretty much a moderate.

Qanon is stupidity. If any Mensa guy here believes in the stupidity known as Qanon, consider a retest.

jsigur , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:53 pm GMT • 23.2 hours ago

Comments like this, "while our blacks have been here a long time and some of them do sing, dance, and dribble well, they are mostly parasites who contribute almost nothing to the society except grief.", are all too common in white nationalist circles and gives the illusion of truth to the Jewish propaganda about us.
One has to wonder if that is the intention. It basically says white nationalists hate everyone but themselves which is exactly what Jews are saying about us in the propaganda system
This is not a closed site! Anyone can come in here and read these tacky remarks.
I think some of you need to follow the Jewish example which is hate the goy while you pretend to help them
In case you didn't know, non-whites are about 50% of the population now and considering all the fire power is in support of them against us. perhaps we can find another way to advocate our predicament

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:54 pm GMT • 23.2 hours ago
@Muaddib

I don't know their political views or what passes for a liberal but one thing is certain WHITES have contributed more than all the other races combined. Henry Ford, Wright Brothers, Tesla, Thomas Edison, etc., I don't think those guys were Jews or negroes.

My guess is YOU ARE NOT A LIBERAL, you are either an anti-White racist Jew, and or some other form of anti-White degenerate who HIJACKED the term, "liberal." In your case the correct tag would be, LIEberal.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:55 pm GMT • 23.2 hours ago
@Trinity

I think the Irish band Clannad wrote songs about and in solidarity with the North American Indians, so you could be right.

This genocide and the photographic images from it that i have seen will never be forgotten by me and the color of the faces of the Europeans with guns doesn't come into it and if i mentioned 'white euro scum' it was to differentiate between northern Europeans and those a bit darker/olive skinned southern Europeans that invaded lands further south than todays U.S.A.

Peace.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:56 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

It's not language or race or skin colour, its CULTURE.

Hate to break the news to you, bossman, but "language, race and skin color" as well as religion have very much to do with CULTURE.

The author makes a lot of cogent and well-reasoned points, but his delivery lacks nuance and has a coarseness which suggests prejudice to the point of racism.

I'm afraid any jackass who accepts or gives credence to the enemy's descriptors of those who naturally honor and favor their own race to others, does not really deserve to be taken seriously.

jsigur , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:56 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

My way or the highway? Great talking points!
You do know almost all Indians were wiped out as the result of Jewish colonialism, right?

Commentator Mike , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:58 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@The Real World

Fwiw, I'm willing to go the step further and view the author as a likely racist and supremacist. Most people like that have lived sheltered lives and had little exposure to a variety of peoples. Many of their assertions are simply empty and unaware of ahem the real world.

You shouldn't make personal statements about people you don't know. You could read more of this author's work to discover his ideological evolution and that his views result from life experience and not the lack of it.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:59 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@christine

The Indians didn't scalp out of revenge, they scalped because they were primitive savages.

On or about the year 1,300 AD long before the Siberians saw a single white man, one tribe of Siberians murdered, scalped, and ate every single one of the 498 women and children of the losing tribe whose men the victorious Siberians had slaughtered.

And we know this because we found the bones of the women and children at Crow Creek in 1978.

Tell me, when you were a Shaman in your past life how much Man Corn did you eat?

tomo , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:05 pm GMT • 23.0 hours ago
@Peter Frost ly of all ages as well as tourist to hear their opinion – and I have never met anyone who does not agree or has similar stories. People are very lonely here and there is too much virtue signaling without any virtue. I spent a few months on a placement in one of the biggest hospitals in Toronto – and what I have seen there confirms my experience. Every day there was one or two teenagers (white) trying to kill themselves. That's only what I have seen while on ER. I spoke to mental 'health' patients too.
There is far too much passive aggressive backstabbing here in Canada – definitely more than I have seen anywhere (I've lived in London, LA, SF, DC, Serbia , Germany etc)
geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:10 pm GMT • 22.9 hours ago
@Wielgus

His daughter, Miller's father, became a well-known novelist in Ireland.

You lost me. How are these individuals related, again?

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:13 pm GMT • 22.9 hours ago
@Trinity ve equal rights. Immigrants have equal rights. DACA folks who came here due to no fault of their own need to be given a chance to stay here, etc.
2. Social programs can be good for society. Think not just social security, but also healthcare for all.

When you treat everybody with respect, by nature you are a happy person.
I will tell you something. If somehow all immigrants and minorities were kicked out, you would still be unhappy. The reason is that you are by nature unhappy.

So think about where your life is. Whose fault is that? Put your ego aside. It was YOUR decisions.
So why blame anybody else?

anonymous [110] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:15 pm GMT • 22.8 hours ago

Trump did not do much to curb legal immigration especially H1B and international students until the very end, a couple of months before the election. Now Biden is about to undo everything and let the MexChindian third world horde wash over us. The dumb millennials who complained about being unemployed or underemployed with massive student loan debt will have an even harder time finding a job now. I've often wondered why these idiots still insist on voting for Biden.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/11/12/biden-presidency-offers-promise-reset-international-education-challenges-remain

Another regulatory change, now in the proposed rule stage, would eliminate the H-1B visa lottery in favor of prioritizing applicants earning higher wages.

"It basically will again ice out anyone who's entry-level," said Sharvari Dalal-Dheini, director of government relations for the American Immigration Lawyers Association. Many international students use the H-1B visa as a pathway for staying to work in the U.S. after they graduate.

The least Trump could do on his way out is to finalize this crucial rule as a parting gift to his base which largely stuck by him. It took him long enough to finally get to this. He should've cancelled H1b and OPT on Day 1. If he had done that he might have won the election.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:26 pm GMT • 22.6 hours ago
@christine frican children and women, as well as adult males being slaughtered in South Africa by marauding racist genocidal Blacks?

Hmm, IF you are TRULY concerned about injustice in a demonic world, why aren't you concerned about Whites?

Do you feel for the Whites who endured the Holodomor? Did you know that Genrikh Yagoda and Lazar Kaganovich, two chief architects of the systemic starvation of MILLIONS of Ukrainian and Russian Whites were Jewish?

The FACT THAT YOU DID NOT ADDRESS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SOUTH AFRICA, just shows me that you are MORE ANTI-WHITE than someone who really cares about humanity, truth or justice. Hell, you probably are not even (((Irish.)))

R2b , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:34 pm GMT • 22.5 hours ago

That you americans vote for that mafioso, is beyond comprehension.
You are so extremely stupid, and I am sorry to say, you bring it on all of us!
Why do you even vote for Bidén!?
Vote for Trump and after half term, create a more representative party.
The freest country in the world, and you just let it happen.
Anyway, I dont believe the official result.
You americans have not been that stupid.
Take the banner of Christ!
And reject zionism.
And reclaim youre country!
The world is waiting.

Stonehands , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:37 pm GMT • 22.5 hours ago
@Ugetit

You said more truth -right there in 25 words- than Ron Unz can say in 10,000

Kudos, my friend.

Emslander , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:42 pm GMT • 22.4 hours ago

Complete drivel. As a German-American of almost two centuries of heritage, I don't identify with your labels, priorities or prejudices.

If you're concerned about certain colors of people having more children than you, the solution is simply to be generous with the Creator with your families. Have more children.

Negrolphin Pool , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:44 pm GMT • 22.3 hours ago
@animalogic

Americans who identify as white are over 95 percent genetically European.

And when the problem is existential, giving 101 reasons why a solution won't work as evidence that we shouldn't even try is plain demoralization.

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:55 pm GMT • 22.2 hours ago
@Muaddib

When Kings ruled Europe, people could call them out.

The problem with our new rulers, we can't call them out.

It is anti-S -- – to do so.

Rulers should not be protected like this. It stops all talk or possible corrections of the actions of our Rulers.

That is the situation that we are in the west.

It is reality. All ethnic groups are effected by our Rulers. It is not a white, black, blue, green, purple or any color one can apply to a people.

Daniel Rich , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:56 pm GMT • 22.1 hours ago
@The Real World

They were free to continue traditions from native lands but, they had to learn our language, obey our laws

Then who were the ones who decided what the language of the native land would be and what laws to adhere to ?

They?
Us?
Them?
We?

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:00 pm GMT • 22.1 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GwbTRmt8jDo/

aleksander , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:10 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago
@RoatanBill at all times.

We're dealing with serious control freaks here people. I wish people would just realize that the COMMUNISTS stole the election and are about to go full Bolshevik on us.

YT is already petrified by blacks at work. One slip up, and it's off to the HR gulag archipelago, then full termination. Anyone who is not a "true believer" in the Revolution, will be scheduled for termination.

Amazing how history repeats itself. YT has been so programmed to think of everyone as "nice," that they can't even come close to imagining that Satanic Marxist pedophiles just stole a national election.

As if anyone could make peace with such Hellspawn.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:11 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago
@jsigur https://i1.wp.com/historyreviewed.best/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/excellent-white-supremacy-joseph-sobran.jpeg?resize=720%2C582

That's the facts, Jack. Who gives a Fiddler's fuck if it offends your delicate sensibilities?

White Christian European people, and White Americans in particular, will apologize when every other race, nation and religion are duly scrutinized and exposed for their "crimes" and "atrocities".

Which will most likely happen in the reign of Queen Dick lol

We are not now, nor will we EVER be, ashamed of our history or our people, despite the best efforts of the Jew Globalist Left.

Quite the contrary.

anon [110] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:12 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago

I would not count on the GOP, even with a 52 vote majority, to stop any attempt at immigration reform by the Dems. There are enough RINOs in there including both of the R from Utah(Mike Lee, Mitt Romney), Marco Rubio, Lindsay Graham, Lisa Murkowsky, Joni Ernst, to name but a few, who could easily go with the Dems on reform.

Mike Lee (R-UT), one of Trump's faves, has been trying to push through the Indian green card bill S. 386 for at least the last two years. The bill was originally to give employment based greencards, some 140k per year, to Indian nationals only for the next ten years. After being blocked 3 times by 3 different senators – Perdue(R-GA), Dick Durban(D-IL), Rick Scott(R-FL), the bill has morphed into a monster.

With each blockage, the bill keeps getting changed to include more and more beneficiaries. In its final iteration, it will now 1) up the per country limit for family based greencard from 7% to 15%, 2) completely eliminate the per country cap of 7% for employment based visa, 3) remove an offset that reduced visas available for Chinese nationals, 4) Reserve a percentage(didn't say what %) of EB2 and EB3 visas (both for high skills) to nationals from outside the top two countries (which I am guessing are India and China), with max of no more than 85% from any single country.

Most importantly, the latest iteration of this bill will treat any Indian who has applied for a green card as already having one, with all the benefits of a greencard while they wait, incl. being able to travel, change jobs.

More Americans need to wake up to this type of treasonous bills being pushed by GOP senators:

https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2020/08/07/mike-lees-s386-bill-creates-green-card-lite-for-more-migrants/

Sen. Rick Scott of FL referred the bill to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he has been attacked as KKK by Indian tech workers lobby.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/08/31/rick-scott-torpedoes-mike-lees-s-386-h-1b-outsourcing-bill/

PolarBear , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:12 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago
@jsigur

There is many Jews here but I see nothing untrue about stating the fact that Blacks contribute very little. You've stated nothing Blacks contributed and merely whined about Whites doing what every non-White race does more than Whites. No race has been more of a "schwartze-lover" than Whites. Whites should be more honest about race and stop believing Blacks are magical. Whites should not tolerate any bad behavior from Blacks or any non-White race for that matter.

Nancy O'Brien Simpson , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:13 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago

This is a joke, right? Millions of non-whites are simply going to get up and leave their homes, jobs, schools, neighborhoods so that Whites can have a little patch of paradise? Has our dear article author been hitting the crack pipe again?
I got news for you. The world is not flat. Leeches do not suck disease out of humans. The earth is brown, no longer yellow, red, black, and white. It gets browner every day.
As for a shared culture and a homeland, the whites were the only race dumb enough not to preserve theirs. Japan is almost 100% Asian. China is Asian. Africa is black. India is Indian. The USA is a mixture of everything. Europe is a mixture of everything. The whites were the only race with the inability to preserve a homeland. Hence they are too shortsighted to deserve one.

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:16 pm GMT • 21.8 hours ago
@Truth

What?
Troof?
What are you still hanging around here for? Did you not read Questioner? You're squatting on stolen land and you need to vamoose.

Tom , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:23 pm GMT • 21.7 hours ago
@Priss Factor

Whites need to get increasingly audacious using insulting humor of the Charlie Hebdo, or SNL kind. It's free speech, right? I feel empowerment growing among Whites during the Voter Fraud Saga and I think there will be a lot less self-censorship from now on. The hate speech laws need to be brought to court so that a charge of "racism" has to be substantiated, or otherwise ruled as a federal hate crime. Who started the whole Racism Industry? Could it have been Jewish intellectuals in their pursuit of the cultural and economic genocide of Gentiles?

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 10:33 pm GMT • 21.5 hours ago
@Felix Krull or more items according to specified parameters.

In common usage, though, "discriminate" is taken to mean the unfair treatment of one party compared to another. Again, typically regarded as an uncivilised activity. And again, this may be pertinent within a given context, but is not automatically true.

So, strictly speaking, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with "racism".

However, IMO the author uses language which suggests disdain for black Americans (for example). If that is an expression of "racism", then it would be in the colloquially "bad" context.

Regardless, IMO the emphasis on the racial dimension limits the article's perspective. Is "Trumpism" just a white movement, or is it an American movement, or is it something more (or less)?

onebornfree , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 10:35 pm GMT • 21.5 hours ago

"The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans"
Here's a real "red pill" for murkans [and the rest of the world], stated 3 different ways:

"Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure" Robert LeFevere

"Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class." Albert J. Nock

"Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be "reformed"or "improved",simply because of their innate criminal nature." onebornfree

"Regards" onebornfree

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:41 pm GMT • 21.4 hours ago
@anon He's the one the people voted for, not them, and they are just waking up to this now.

It's the same type of diversion the Democrats just tried to pull off with Antifa and BLM. They got everybody looking at "White Supremacy", racial and identity issues so that you wouldn't be looking at the money the elites are skimming off the top. I'm sure they could have cared less about the POC.

The elites are fighting Trump hard; they don't want him changing anything. They knew it would be mainly "Whites" voting for Trump, so they invented this White Supremacy bullshite.

Yes, the people who voted for Trump ARE interested in immigration, and so is Trump.

AnonFromTN , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:47 pm GMT • 21.3 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

stick themselves full of needles and pins , and dye their hair blue so as to present their deranged worldview for all to see

Yep, that describes it. I understand that a lot of people cannot help being stupid, but I never understood why people want to aggressively advertise their stupidity. Perverted exhibitionism, maybe?

lloyd , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 10:53 pm GMT • 21.2 hours ago

Costello seems a strange choice of nom de plume for a white nationalist. I at least identify the name as Shepardi Jew. The J word never comes up in the article with its problematic issue of where Jews fit in a white nationalist homeland. Has anyone noticed the only high profile non retired public figure left with a wasp name and is not black is Homer Simpson? I am of course exaggerating but the signs are there. With the demise of the white wasps has come the fall of foundation America. The non wasps don't really share its cultural sentiments. Its sobriety is lacking except among the best black people who share its names. I am thinking of Ben Carson. Homer Simpson is a cartoon of a simple slobbish white American. There is no public movement to remove him of course. So it isn't really surprising America is going the catastrophic way of her sourthern neighbours.

Q Anon is clearly JFK jr. His crash and recovery was prophesised in the Nostradamus Quatrain for July of 1999. He carries on the legacy of the Kennedys since grandfather Joe as does his cousin Robert Kennedy.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:10 pm GMT • 20.9 hours ago

Brother Nathanael's latest instalment is a doozy, FAKE NEWS, FAKE ELECTION :


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/LRQK9TfcNJM2/

Hardest-hitting passage:

Cackling Commie Kamal, who humped her way to the top, married Big Tech lawyer Jew, Douglas Emhoff, a few years back.

The Jew would be "First Man" and you can kiss your First Amendment goodbye.

Big Tech -- (with Emhoff's impending high position and legal conniving) -- will be free to ban all 'hate speech,' which is 'speech' Jews 'hate' to hear.

And the entire Jew-owned media and their leftist political machine operatives will decide all elections from henceforth now and forever.

You are about to enter the Twilight Zone -- a Jew-ruled, Jew-ruined, Jew-controlled America.

Full transcript

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Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:13 pm GMT • 20.9 hours ago
@jsm

I won a lottery given by the renters, and was given free transatlantic transport.

Dum Spiro Spero , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:15 pm GMT • 20.8 hours ago

Fake Pope to fake president:
https://novusordowatch.org/2020/11/pope-francis-congratulates-joe-biden/

Priss Factor , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 11:18 pm GMT • 20.8 hours ago
@DaveE an mean the need for white unity & power. Or it can mean white power as the basis for world domination. Nationalism need not be imperialist but often took an imperialist turn in the past when a nation became very powerful.
In contrast, 'liberation' emphasizes the need for whites to seek emancipation from the current power that dominates the West and the World which is Jewish Power. (Even 'white national liberation' sounds better than mere 'white nationalism'.) White Politics that only focuses on whites and white power is less likely to be appealing than White Politics that seeks freedom from the actual tyranny that rules the world: Jewish Supremacist Power or JSP.
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anon [773] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:19 pm GMT • 20.8 hours ago

I think more likely, whites will sink into despair and return to a state of apathy for politics. I don't see any Republican being able to generate the kind of enthusiasm Trump did. Tucker Carlson does not have the financial backing or the personality cult. Josh Hawley and Tom Cotton are two Zionist social conservatives who will revert back to the GOP's standard abortion, abortion, abortion and say nothing about immigration or non-interventionism to rouse enough interest from Trump's base.

The only way for white nationalism to stay alive is if Trump stays politically active through outlets like Newsmax TV and Gab.com , and return for another run for office in 2024. However he needs to be very careful. Once he leaves office he will no longer have the kind of security protection given him as POTUS. There had been many assassination attempts while he's in office (at least 6 I've heard of), he could put himself in great danger if he continues to stay in the limelight to position himself for 2024.

As far as a separate whites only nation within the US, look at states that are probably the whitest – Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, all are heavily (D). A fat lot of good that does. TX will be (D) by 2024, too many Hispanics and CA transplants, like AZ and NV. Whites are too splintered, thanks in large part to single white women, who voted 62% in favor of Biden, compared to married white women who went for Trump 55%. White women are marrying and having children at an ever lower rate due to lack of eligible men. White women graduated from college at 60% to 40% compared to white men. As most women only want to marry up, college educated women rarely want to date much less marry non-college educated men. Due to height issues, most white women would only date white men or occasionally, black men. Asian and Hispanic men are too short and unromantic. Meanwhile more and more white men are marrying Asian and Hispanic women. White women are running out of men to date, marry and start a family. More unmarried white women means more white votes will be going for Biden.

frankie p , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:32 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@anon

The American Conservative is no longer really conservative on many issues. Ron is not running things there any more, and they have been compromised.

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:33 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@aleksander icagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-viz-joe-biden-election-celebration-photos-20201107-nskvgzvp3necvfv6nnd42hzpm4-photogallery.html

Supporters of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden celebrate after he was elected the 46th president of the United States on Nov. 7, 2020.

https://www.thoughtco.com/russian-revolution-timeline-1779473

October 25 (November 7 NS): The October Revolution begins when the Bolsheviks take over Petrograd (also called the November Revolution if following the Gregorian calendar).

anonymous [773] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:34 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@Thomasina two months before this election that he proposed some rule changes to H1b, and still none of those rules have been finalized and probably never will. He made these tech plantation owners many times richer through the stock market, while they treated him with contempt and helped bring him down. What an idiot!

If Trump had cancelled H1b, OPT, L1 and all other work visas and forced our employers to hire and train US workers on Day 1 as he promised, he might have won by a landslide by now. The only group that went down in votes for him in 2020 is white men, because too many feel betrayed by him in immigration. All he cares about is taking care of Jews and blacks, both Jews in Israel and on Wall Street. He trusted wormtongue too much, and that's his downfall.

Afterthought , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:35 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago

Let's just separate.

frankie p , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:37 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@Thomasina

Richard Pilger is (was) the top DOJ Official investigating voter fraud who resigned after Barr authorized federal prosecutors to pursue "substantial allegations" of voter irregularities before the election outcome is certified. He is a swamp rat, a cretin, one of many who should have been drained from the swamp long ago.

John Pilger, on the other hand, is a hero, a filmmaker and journalist with a long, excellent record of shining light on malfeasance and bad behavior of politicians of every stripe.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:46 pm GMT • 20.3 hours ago
@Nancy O'Brien Simpson

Nancy, you are definitely the type of Irish I would have no trouble killing, along with Joe Biden and John Brennan.

Numerous instances of Irish killing Irish, especially in the US.

You need to learn the lesson again.

Richard B , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:25 am GMT • 19.7 hours ago
@Robjil

The culture of the Chosen people does not understand the concept of compassion. This is why the world has been in a very sad place for the last hundred or so years since 12.23.1913.

Exactly!

And thanks for the link and quote.

anonymous [284] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:25 am GMT • 19.7 hours ago
@Priss Factor the white race and goyim in general. Just ask the Palestinians about the nature of Jewish Power.

Spot on here. Don't expect Biden to let up though. The Jew owned media (both msm and "conservative" media e.g. Zerohedge, Breitbart, National Review, Fox News) will keep up the pressure. I see a future, perhaps in two decades, where East Asian immigration to the US will come to a screeching halt, and most likely even go into reverse as more East Asians return to their homelands because Jews, negroes, homos, trannies, stupid white women, Latino drug gangs, Muslim terrorists, Sub Saharan African welfare leeches, Indian H1b slaves with their clannishness, collusion with Jews and caste-ism make the US an increasingly unlivable hellhole. Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:28 am GMT • 19.6 hours ago

@Truth

I won a lottery given by the renters, and was given free transatlantic transport.

Your line's post-African existence and ability to publicly complain like little girls owes much to the transatlantic slave trade. Thank the niggas who sold your ancestors into slavery, nigga.

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:52 am GMT • 19.2 hours ago
@noname27

https://www.youtube.com/embed/5_cNZH6ohgw?feature=oembed

http://therealistreport.com/how-the-holocaust-was-faked

DonutsMan , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:54 am GMT • 19.2 hours ago

There's plenty of majority-white states you can move to if Pale Skin is so important to you. Go to West Virginia, for instance.

Majority-white states with conservative governments tend to be dull, economically depressed and stagnant. The same will characterize the imaginary white secessionist state you fetishize.

It's amazing to me that someone could speak with such satisfaction about other people being subjugated simply because of their color. But then again, animals like you have no morals nor any decency.

That's why the vast majority of whites in this country will say "no thanks" to your ugly message.

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:59 am GMT • 19.1 hours ago
@Afterthought

That's not allowed.

See 1861.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:01 am GMT • 19.1 hours ago

A lot to unpack by the author, who is simply stating things we already have heard previously.

"A White Nationalist is someone who believes that white peoples have a right to their own homelands."

You do have your own homelands. It's just that in a number of cases, you invaded other homelands for gimmedats and free stuff.

"So that, as a White Nationalist, I am a German nationalist, an English nationalist, a Scottish nationalist, a French nationalist, etc. Or, at least, I support all those nationalisms."

And what about Eastern and Southern Europeans? Why no example of you being a Polish nationalist or a Slavic nationalist? Remember, these groups were deemed to be other than heritage Americans–dirty, filthy papists who should have never entered our shores with their alien mannerisms.

"To be a white nationalist in America is really to recognize that the core "American people" are the white people whose ancestors built the country and who continue to pay for it. Thus, American White Nationalism = American nationalism."

The reality is that American nationalism is defined by each person and group how they view it.

"Since it now looks impossible to go back to the good old days when we had blacks in complete subjection"

Slavery and Jim Crow laws were decidedly anti-American nationalism, and were patently unjust and immoral.

"white Americans will never work toward a white American homeland unless they are aware of themselves as White Americans"

We are aware of ourselves as white Americans, just not in the manner you prefer. Do we not have agency? Must we submit to your definition of what is and what is not a white nationalist?

"that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward."

It will take a fight. Will you be front and center, or far away from the hostilities?

"The country was already fractured along political lines. Now it is completely broken Now their faith has been completely and irreparably shattered. And this is hugely significant for us And those many millions of whites are now choking down a gigantic red pill. As we all know, the red pill is the path to liberation."

What you are doing here is ASSUMING. The "us" is not "we". It's only those people who you know for absolute certain are on your side.

"It seems that there is credible evidence that there was voter fraud in the election"

More like accusations that need to meet the burden of proof.

"Take it from me -- from my own personal experience: once you have accepted that one big thing is a total sham, you begin to wonder whether everything else is."

So why would we want to be duped like you?

"It would take whites being pushed to a point where they are so angry they speak and behave imprudently, damning the consequences."

LOL. I've heard this argument for the past 40 years! It's always a "well, we are upset now, but just want until we really get mad, then we will put heads on pikes". Either put up or shut up.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:01 am GMT • 19.1 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

Why didn't your ancestors pick their own damn cotton?

SC Rebel , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:08 am GMT • 18.9 hours ago
@noname27

(((They))) brought them here

Even Farrakhan gets that.

Peter Frost , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 1:10 am GMT • 18.9 hours ago
@tomo e powerless?

The situation is somewhat better for young whites whose parents were immigrants. Their family structure is more stable, and they have a possible escape route. I know several who have "returned" to Europe, even though they were born here. But it's stupid and ignorant to tell old-stock Canadians they have that option. My ancestors left England in the 19th century, and the ancestors of French Canadians left France in the 17th and 18th centuries. We're indigenous.

I agree that "people are very lonely here" but that's relatively recent. The breakdown of the family began in the 1960s and became "normal" in the 1990s. Again, it has nothing to do with climate or geography -- other than the fact we're next door to the United States and its culture.

Factorize , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:16 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@tomo

tomo, I have been thinking a great deal about income inequality lately (especially the relative income hypothesis (i.e., all of our social problems are caused by differences in income)). I would love to hear your comments on this question given your wide ranging experiences around the globe. Would life really be better for us all if we Scandanavianized?

Jim Bob Lassiter , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:17 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@Montefrío

Brazil (Portugal) was the largest consignee of African slaves in both absolute numbers and on per capita white colonizer basis. The Anglo North American mainland was far less of a slave based economy. Brazil was also the last nation in the Americas to outlaw slavery -- and it was done without 600,000 white men slaughtering each other and burning the defeated side's country to the ground.

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:18 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@Corvinus

Because it was cheaper to have nigger's do it, so your type could purchase it.

You are a disgrace, Corvie,

But I'm sure you already understand that.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:18 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@anon

"I think more likely, whites will sink into despair and return to a state of apathy for politics."

If you are someone who "doesn't want to get your hopes up" or "is afraid to be disappointed" or "is concerned that it might be a trap" or "seriously hope you're wrong", or sees doom in every direction, then this is not the place for you. I'm not saying that you're a bad person or that anyone here wishes you ill. I'm simply stating a simple fact: this is not the place for you. No one here is interested in your fears, your worries, your psychological vagaries, or your concerns.

All the best, Vox Day

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:23 am GMT • 18.7 hours ago
@Stonehands

Thanks! It's nice to be appreciated!

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:24 am GMT • 18.7 hours ago
@Corvinus

My ancestors didn't own slaves, but it wouldn't matter if they did. The statement remains, Troof's post-African line owes its very existence and ability to complain like little bitches to the transatlantic slave trade. Falsify it or fuck off, traitor.

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:27 am GMT • 18.6 hours ago
@aleksander

I wish people would just realize that the COMMUNISTS stole the election and are about to go full Bolshevik on us.

True, but I wish people would just realize that the COMMUNISTS stole the election from the Zionists and are about to go full Bolshevik on us.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:39 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago
@DonutsMan

The majority white states have the highest quality of life ..low crime .church-going Christians ..lower housing costs .family friendly environment.

Contraviews , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:43 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

The Dems were quite determined to remove Trump from office by hook and by crook. First by the fabricated Russiagate fake story When they did not succeed by impeachment. Now today by a fraudulent election. They, the MIC appear to have succeeded. We are back in the Bush/Obama era.

Montefrío , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:00 am GMT • 18.1 hours ago
@Jim Bob Lassiter

Thanks for the info.

Your point about the slaughter in the USA is well taken. Nevertheless, I believe it was unnecessary and that the war there wasn't truly about slavery. Hell, I lived in an African nation for three and a half years and saw some slavery first hand; that was 40 years ago, mind, and the slaves were by and large as happy as clams. WASPy culture is peculiar if you ask me, which of course you didn't, but even so Who are the "slaves" now in the USA? Hmmm?

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:06 am GMT • 18.0 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

You are a disgrace, Corvie,

But I'm sure you already understand that.

Corvie's "moral authority" is equivalent to the Negro chieftain who sold Troof's Negro ancestor into slavery in exchange for pretty rocks and trinkets, and less than the "white-debils" who bought him.

Corvie and Troof can fuck off.

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:07 am GMT • 18.0 hours ago
@Corvinus those people worried about kissing Black ass are either COWARDS like all those white traitor trash rich kids or Jews who really use Blacks as pawns. More than likely that rich leftist self hating white trash is the person who owned slaves or some Jew who blames it all on Whitey. Either way, Whites have been enslaved themselves by Arabs and are in some ways slaves today in their own land.

You worried about Blacks, sucka, why does Israel push out Black Jews? Jive talkin', sucka, keep it a hunnert up in here, turkey. Why did Leo Frank try to blame a Black man for his crime? lololol. Cue the Bee Gees "Jive Talkin" for all the (((trolls))) up in here. Yo, playa, we gotz dis.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:09 am GMT • 17.9 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

"Because it was cheaper to have nigger's do it, so your type could purchase it."

I know, it is the inherent nature of Southrons to be lazy. It's in born.

"You are a disgrace, Corvie,"

I'm not the one who has made empty threats of violence on a opinion webzine against a woman (snicker snack). You said, "Nancy, you are definitely the type of Irish I would have no trouble killing, along with Joe Biden and John Brennan". You've sunk to a new low.

Ron Unz , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:14 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@Montefrío he bulk of black slaves went to the Spanish colonies, not the American colonies"

Could you please cite supporting evidence for this assertion?

All the academic accounts I've read indicate that only about 5% of the African slaves shipped across the Atlantic were sent to the mainland English colonies that became the United States, while the rest went to areas of Latin America and the Caribbean. However, these latter included Portuguese, English, French, and Dutch colonies, as well as Spanish ones. The reason their need for slaves was so enormous was that the death rate in the plantations producing sugar and other lucrative crops was extremely high. Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:15 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

@christine

You are a most silly woman (assuming you're a woman).

Maybe the folks who say women shouldn't be allowed to vote have a point

John Johnson , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:15 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@christine iv>

All human DNA is southern African you numpty.

Did lactase persistence originate in southern Africa?

Egalitarian response:
Oh but that's the exception along with any other non-cognitive changes we might accept if you prove they exist. But we won't talk about them and will keep telling children that everyone is African.

Imagine if other fields of study had to follow this insanity.

American wolves don't exist unless you are talking about DNA changes in American wolves that separate them from European wolves. But other than those changes that would denote a different subspecies they don't exist.

Hang All Text Drivers , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:17 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

"""But all the voices on the far-Right who labeled Trump "a distraction" have now been proved correct. Trump actually wound up doing little for white people -- despite being continually vilified by the Left as a white supremacist""""

At least the author got that right. Trump was elected to remove the illegal aliens (almost all of them non-white) and he did practically nothing in 4 years. It would have been easy to make them self-deport by taking away their jobs and freebies but he didn't do it.

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:18 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@frankie p

Thanks. Yes, I do know who John Pilger is. I guess I just typed in the wrong name. Good catch!

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:19 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

"Troof's post-African line owes its very existence and ability to complain like little bitches to the transatlantic slave trade."

Do you realize that there was a difference between African slavery and American chattel slavery?

https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=2&psid=445

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Commentator Mike , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:22 am GMT • 17.7 hours ago
@Corvinus

So the landowner immigrants could pretend they were European aristocrats in parody version.

Montefrío , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:24 am GMT • 17.7 hours ago
@Ron Unz

Thank you, sir, particularly for the multi-national breakdown, so to speak.

When all is said and done, it was an ugly business, but long ago was long ago, and imho it has little to do with the world today. I'm Irish, and "we" weren't well treated long ago either, but we don't whine or whinge much. I wish that were true of others whose ancestors suffered hard times.

Me? At 74, life is wonderful! May it be so for all here!

Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:30 am GMT • 17.6 hours ago
@The Wild Geese Howard

Yep, judges are promoted lawyers.

And who ever said that lot were an honorable profession?

Ha ha.

But one or two are OK. I think of the Black dude on the US Supreme Court. Best Justice America has.

Of course, he's not your typical judge – or Black person.

Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:33 am GMT • 17.5 hours ago
@glib

They weren't red-pilled.

They were anything but.

Get your facts and terminology straight.

redmudhooch , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:36 am GMT • 17.5 hours ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans is what the Establishment/Trump hope actually means The Stolen Election Will Keep 70 Million Americans on the Republicrat Plantation

Imagine thinking rich white conmen like Trump give a shit about you as a "white nationalist" or that Trump or GOP are against non-white immigration. Hahahahahahhahaha

Delusional. Trump wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. He and everyone around him have already made it clear you racist cracka ass niggaz aren't welcome in his circle or the GOP. Oprah Winfrey, Lil Pump, Lil Wayne and Kanye have more clout with Trump than you clowns. You should ask yourself why that is.

You, average white guy are no better than a dindu or a beaner in the eyes of rich capitalists. In fact you're less to them because you demand a living standard and wages that the beaner doesn't.

Let me know when Trump invites some homeless white veterans or any poor cracka for that matter to fill his hotels, you know since he cares so much for the white race. Yall should really take a look around if you believe these rich white guys are your allies. "White nationalism" is a hoax.

The rich white capitalist will stab you in the back every time, history has proven this over and over again, you're nothing but wage slaves, tax donkeys and cannon fodder to them, cracka.

Every election is stolen by the rich capitalists that own all the candidates and all the media. The CIA and Wall St run the country, not puppet politicians

This is not your country. It is up for sale to the highest bidder, welcome to capitalism. There are despots in Saudi Arabia that "own" more of this country than you losers. Poor low IQ right wingers, keep believing those fairy tales your owners like telling you. Hahahahaha

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:44 am GMT • 17.3 hours ago
@Anonymous ards possessors of illicit drugs, but no -- Hunter is special!). Biden loves, loves the bomb, and he supported all 'humanitarian" interventions (mass-slaughters) on behalf of the war profiteers and zionists. Or perhaps you are fond of the murderous Clinton, and the Schiff-Schumer-Nadler triumvirate of traitors working diligently to destroy the US Consitution? Do you really believe in the patriotism of McCabe, Strzhok, Comey, Brennan, and Dm. Alperovitch? Too much FakeBook can be detrimental to one's cognitive function.

The woke crowd of 'progressives' is too much into the cheap revolutionary rhetoric skillfully inserted into their brains by Bernays' pupils working for MSM.

GazaPlanet , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:50 am GMT • 17.2 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

The whole premise of the multi-cult Left is that divers racial minority groups, sanctimonious yankees and perverts join together under the aegis of Jewry to socially marginalize the rest of society. You cannot listen to these people for more than a minute without hearing them vent hatred against the NORMAL people. There's a reason the Jews are so dead-set against the way the white world was not too long ago. It's normal, it's sane, and they DON'T FIT IN. Their depraved appetites and megalomania don't fit in with Western, Christian Civilization.

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 2:52 am GMT • 17.2 hours ago

Get yourself a Palestinian flag and shout "Palestine is our greatest ally."

Time for Goyexit and Whitexit from vile Jewish Supremacism. Enough is enough.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Palestinian-Flag-3×5-ft-Palestine-Free-State-Independent-National-Homeland/150672063565?hash=item2314c13c4d:g:LtAAAMXQk-FRFRHt

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:54 am GMT • 17.2 hours ago
@Corvinus s))) and many of them looked and acted like Corvinus.

Slavery is ANCIENT HISTORY and your kind was very well involved in it, same as a lot of pompous Yankees who claim they fought to end slavery, blah, blah. The fact of the matter is that only a tiny percentage of Whites ever owned slaves in the South. Poor Whites weren't treated much better than Blacks for that matter, maybe YOUR ANCESTORS OWNED SLAVES, Corvie, just like good ole SJW Anderson Cooper.

Fact is Blacks are not exactly saints when it comes to the African Slave Trade themselves.

How about we stick to this century, (((Corvie.))) I don't see or hear Whites whining about being enslaved by Arabs.

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:59 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago
@omegabooks

The MSM, FakeBook, Twitter, and Google must be demolished, considering their willful treasonous activities during the American color revolution (Russiagate).
By their vicious attacks on the First Amendment, the MSM, FakeBook, Twitter, and Google have rivaled the Lobby. Or perhaps they are, in reality, an extension of the Lobby.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:00 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JmRjZ337KGEK/

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:00 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago
@Corvinus

I've told you numerous times, I will meet you IRL. Corvie.

If you think my threats are empty, then take me up on it.

What have you got to lose?

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:05 am GMT • 17.0 hours ago
@Malla

Thanks Malla, checked out.

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:11 am GMT • 16.9 hours ago
@Corvinus

It took your self righteous Yankee retards four long bloody years and eight successive commanders to defeat the "Lazy Southrons". Despite having a GDP five times as large and nearly twenty times the amount of military age males lol

All the while devastating the homes, towns and cities of the people in the South.

This next time around, you will get a taste of war and hate, Mr Corvinus.

Of course, I doubt a pussy ass bitch like you will stand and fight.

epochehusserl , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:16 am GMT • 16.8 hours ago
@Muaddib synonymous with abolishing social standards. We see the poisonous fruits of giving everybody respect rather than on conduct: an inability to use force in the face of rioting and looting instead focusing on people who call others harsh names, rewarding family breakdown, government debt, women screaming in the streets through bullhorns demanding that other people pay for their fornication, an unwillingness to condemn homosexuals for deliberately spreading AIDS for fear of being homophobic.

I will tell you something. If somehow all immigrants and minorities were kicked out, you would still be unhappy.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- –
Its a good place to start

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:16 am GMT • 16.8 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hxrVAGuE7Oo1/

anonymous [284] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:20 am GMT • 16.7 hours ago
@Factorize is worth.

Diversity makes everything worse.

Robert Putnam said in his book Bowling Alone that the more diverse a society, the less trust there is between people. He also found that in diverse communities, even whites distrust other whites, which makes them even more alienated, because the immigrants at least form their own ethnic communities. This is what is happening now in all Western countries. Whites are increasingly alienated in their own countries and societies due to over immigration, leading to depravity, depression and suicide. It's why birthrate is so low in Western European countries. It's also why immigration must stop, not just to bring back homogeneity and kinship, but to reduce the population so each life means more.

frontier , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:22 am GMT • 16.7 hours ago
@Muaddib for all.

Again, you're asking gimme dat while oblivious to the fundamentals. Social programs aren't payed for by the government the government doesn't make profits, it spends other peoples money which it collects at gun point . In order to satisfy you thirst for privileges the government has to literally rob someone else at gun point. Don't people have the right not to be robbed? Again, only criminals think the "right" to rob is more important than the right not to be. Moreover, the "good social programs" now stand at $185 Trillion of debt and other liabilities. Do you know what that number means? Nothing "good" about it. annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:23 am GMT • 16.7 hours ago

@Muaddib MSM? The dimwit wokes who avoid like a plague any discussion on Obama/Clinton's 'humanitarian interventions' in faraway countries, which resulted in a multitude of dead civilians, many of them children.

Biden is ready to intensify the illegal war against Syria (why his progeny has not joined the 'moderate terrorists' White Helmets is a mystery, don't you think so?). The old corrupted opportunist would begin a hot war with Russia without understanding what he is doing.

Sure, the MIC has been terribly unhappy with Trump -- not much of 'humanitarian interventions' during the last four years.

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:31 am GMT • 16.6 hours ago
@Corvinus

Do you realize that there was a difference between African slavery and American chattel slavery?

Do you realize you are lower than the Negro chieftain who sold Troof's ancestor to white debils in exchange for pretty rocks and trinkets?

It doesn't matter what the Negro chieftain knew or didn't. You certainly know more than he did, traitor.

Art , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:39 am GMT • 16.4 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I suggest adjusting the author's arguments to recognise the actual fundamental issue in play, which is not skin colour or race or language, but CULTURE.

Culture is everything! Culture determines how you treat your neighbor.

Hmm -- the average black in Mississippi has more Euro white Christian culture in him, then the average white in NY City. Hence NYC's dysfunction.

Anti-Christian Jews are responsible for black disfunction in NYC – period!

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:45 am GMT • 16.3 hours ago
@Muaddib -- are you a whiny liberal of lgbtq variety, demanding a special bathroom and denouncing white privilege a la hypocritical Meghan Markle (and her ridiculous duke 'just harry'), or you used to be a 'conservative' but it was too boring for you? You know, family responsibilities, decent education, work ethics

California is the most liberal state in the US. But for some reason, Californias have been fleeing California like crazy. And you know what, the happy Liberal Californians have been fleeing to conservative states, without being invited. Last year, "the negative migration was the 9th year in a row for California."

Something is not right with your reasoning.

TKK , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:51 am GMT • 16.2 hours ago
@Stonewall Jackson

Ron Unz allows a base, boring, bitter troglodyte like you to post your rude and insulting garbage on HIS site where he accepts no advertising and runs out of his own pocket so all viewpoints can be discussed with a light hand and open mind.

You aren't fit to pump his gas.

anaccount , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:57 am GMT • 16.1 hours ago

I agree with the article but this election isn't actually over outside of the CNN newsroom.

If the powers that be want to weaken the right they will give Trump his (obvious) win but only after deluding democrats into thinking that they won the election. I think we are watching that play out right now.

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:01 am GMT • 16.1 hours ago
@Muaddib Some of the 'immigrants' were from the Soviet Union where they received a fantastic education for nothing. The development of the Internet was conducted under the watchful eye of intelligence services; the involved have profited handsomely on the enterprise. Long before the 'immigrants' and their handlers made the killing, there were brilliant people like Ada Lovelace, Turing, and others who have prepared the ground for modern information technology.

Today, the woke profiteers ('liberals') at FakeBook and Google religiously follow the diktat of the CIA/FBI that serve war profiteers and financial Squid. These 'liberals' have been betraying the interests of human society at large.

James Scott , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:03 am GMT • 16.0 hours ago
@christine what is now North America wanted to stay in the stone age. They live in houses and drive cars. If whites had never came to what is now North America the people living here would still be stone age. It took Europeans over 6000 years to go from the iron age to the industrial age where we were when we founded the USA. There is no way the natives who were stone age would have been living modern lives.

Colonization was white people going around the world pulling stone age people into the modern world. Whites are non whites benefactors and only morons cannot see this.

You are not a good thinker. You should be posting on a cooking or sewing site. Politics is beyond your ken.

TKK , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:06 am GMT • 16.0 hours ago
@christine your enemy in a hide bag over a roaring fire and letting them roast to death.

The ant trap: coating your enemy in a sticky resin from trees and restraining them over ant mounds

The head bury: burying your enemy at low tide and allowing the tide to roll in and drown them.

The horse pull: tying each arm and leg to four separate horses and letting them go four separate ways.

But our Anglo Western criminal justice system of the 8th Amendment, bonds, free lawyers , probation, counselors and medical care in prison is much more savage.

Karma? The crystal ball it's fuzzy but an image is coming in wait .I see a dung beetle in your future.

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:15 am GMT • 15.8 hours ago
@Corvinus

I'm not the one who has made empty threats of violence on a opinion webzine against a woman (snicker snack). You said, "Nancy, you are definitely the type of Irish I would have no trouble killing, along with Joe Biden and John Brennan".

Why do you respond to "empty," traitor?

Either the threat was empty or it wasn't.

It certainly wasn't a personal threat.

Looks like a threat against a "type of Irish."

What I see is a cucked, traitorous e-activist misrepresenting a threat to pose as a chivalrous defender of e-womanhood.

TG , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:20 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago

This might not be directly relevant, but let me tell you a story.

The Island of Hispaniola was the site of the only known successful slave revolt in history. So far, so good. The victors where blacks and whites ('hispanics'). Well, that did not work out well. The whites ('hispanics') revolted and carved out their own nation, it's called the Dominican Republic. The blacks were left in their own nation, it's called Haiti. The Dominican Republic has problems, in particular a very high murder rate, but compared to most of the rest of the world, is not doing so bad. Haiti is an unspeakable cesspool of poverty and filth.

Of course, the Dominican Republic has a viciously effective border control policy preventing Haitian blacks from moving in. Why doesn't our corporate press complain about this anti-migrant xenophobia? Maybe rich Americans like the beaches in the Dominican Republic as they are.

Is that something that could – or should – happen in the Untied States? Probably not, circumstances are different. But still

al gore rhythms , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:23 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago
@The Wild Geese Howard

"Isn't there a large Japanese diaspora doing well in Brazil and Peru?"

Perhaps they are a self-selected sample of Japanese who are untypical enough of their culture that they wanted to forge a new path elsewhere.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:23 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

"Do you realize you are lower than the Negro chieftain who sold Troof's ancestor to white debils in exchange for pretty rocks and trinkets?"

Actually, African tribes received guns, rum, clothing, spices, and other assorted goods.

"You certainly know more than he did, traitor."

You mean I know more that you, friend.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:27 am GMT • 15.6 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

"I've told you numerous times, I will meet you IRL. Corvie."

And I told you to take care of the immediate threats in your own neck of the woods. Make sure to record it on social media.

"It took your self righteous Yankee retards four long bloody years and eight successive commanders to defeat the "Lazy Southrons"."

LOL, we got our act together with Grant and Sherman.

"All the while devastating the homes, towns and cities of the people in the South."

It was a just war.

"This next time around, you will get a taste of war and hate, Mr Corvinus."

More empty threats on your behalf.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:31 am GMT • 15.6 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

"Why do you respond to "empty," traitor? Either the threat was empty or it wasn't. It certainly wasn't a personal threat."

Of course it was empty and personal! But that's what Internet armchair warriors do.

"What I see is a cucked, traitorous e-activist misrepresenting a threat to pose as a chivalrous defender of e-womanhood."

All you do is posture. I take comfort you lack the guile and guts to pull a St. Breivik.

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:37 am GMT • 15.5 hours ago
@christine

Christine: I too have experienced at least one native prior lifetime and my home is almost exactly halfway between two reservations. Friends. Currently I'm reading a book you would likely enjoy–perhaps thoroughly: "Listen to the Wind: Speak from the Heart" by Roger Thunderhands Gilbert, who is Metis and has been very close to both the Apache and Lakota cultures. Publisher is Divine Arts Media.

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Clay Alexander , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:40 am GMT • 15.4 hours ago

Always love the comments here, a great range from bright to not so bright to downright dim. But no matter who you are I'm sure you'll all agree we went from being Bozos on the bus to being Dr. Zeke's lab rats.

Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:44 am GMT • 15.3 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I approve of both names!

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:50 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

Yeah, maybe, but then if it wasn't for the slave trade, you'd be wearing nylon underwear right now

ooooh!

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:52 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Corvinus

I remember that one, Flipper. Not one of your shining moments; although they are probably rare.

Art , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:53 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Stonewall Jackson

TROLL!

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:54 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Robert Dolan

So move to one.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:11 am GMT • 14.9 hours ago
@James Scott t (which liberals are not) all of the stone age people currently living in Christendom . ride in cars, use computers and cellphones, travel in jets .have access to the white man's brilliant technology ..it's like we allowed them to jump into our time machine so they could fast forward into the future we created.

You could also add that we have the patent on high trust culture based on Christian values of industriousness, honesty, fairness, and decency ..though much of this is being wrecked by Jewish multiculturalism.

If not for the subversion of organized Jewry, whites would still have the respect of the stone age non-whites instead of their hatred and contempt.

Felix Krull , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:36 am GMT • 14.5 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

However, IMO the author uses language which suggests disdain for black Americans (for example). If that is an expression of "racism", then it would be in the colloquially "bad" context.

Black Americans kill, rape and steal in huge disproportion to their numbers. Why should I not disdain that?

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:54 am GMT • 14.2 hours ago
@Commentator Mike

You shouldn't make personal statements about people you don't know.

He put himself and his views out there, as any author does, and this is a Comment Board. I made my comments and observations. Are you new to venues like this? That's how they work

John Johnson , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:36 am GMT • 13.5 hours ago
@Muaddib onestly about their failures? They don't support it. In fact they despise free speech.

Social programs can be good for society. Think not just social security, but also healthcare for all.

Social programs can be good for society. But liberalism is not about finding good programs. It is about trying to denigrate and demoralize White people in an attempt at creating equality. Most liberals are White but they see themselves as the "good Whites" and all other Whites must be taken down. Liberals are nihilistic egalitarians. They will do anything for equality. They would sacrifice our children just for some fleeting feeling of equality that doesn't exist.

John Johnson , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:50 am GMT • 13.2 hours ago
@Muaddib ily life but in your mind all progress is held back by those other Whites . I saw that all the time. Urban Whites get "celebrate diversity" bumper stickers and then hang out with Whites 99% of the time.

More inventions came from WW2 than any other period and Whites on both sides during that time would think that today's urban egalitarian Whites are total morons.

P.S. your women aren't sexually attracted to you if that wasn't obvious by how they boss you guys around.

I lived around urban Whites for years. What a soulless and pathetic existence the typical urban White male lives. The homeless Blacks seem happier than you guys.

Wielgus , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:57 am GMT • 13.1 hours ago
@geokat62

The father of Jonathan Miller's mother wanted to emigrate to the USA but got off in Ireland instead, when it was under British rule. Miller gave an account of this during an interview. I can't recall whether his grandfather got off in Cork by mistake or whether the person who arranged his ticket cheated him and others by putting them on a boat to Ireland rather than New York. For Miller this was an amusing anecdote he told on TV.
At any rate the mother of Jonathan Miller was one of the relatively few Jews living in Ireland, although Miller himself was born in England.

christine , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:01 am GMT • 11.1 hours ago

'White people built the U.S.A it's ours'

This tell me exactly the nasty white supremacist that you must be and i pity you for your ignorance and severe lack of understanding about life.

Take the red pill next time.

Alden , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:08 am GMT • 10.9 hours ago
@christine

You've never been around any American Indians or their national autonomous homelands aka rezess have you? As a group, they're probably the most contented of all definable American race and ethnic groups. At least they're not endlessly bitching whining and kvetching like the rest of us.

You should spend a year driving around their rezess and talking to them. Try to fit in as a tourist or something. Don't be rude and just inform them you're some kind of social scientist studying their exotic oppressed abused soon to be genocided tribe. Don't insult them. Be polite. They are regular people just like the rest of us.

Alden , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:17 am GMT • 10.8 hours ago
@utu

We weren't Americans and America wasn't America when the Africans were brought over. We were English citizens subjects living in separate English colonies known as Massachusetts Connecticut Virginia Maryland etc.

Check Wikipedia ignoramus.

Alden , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:23 am GMT • 10.7 hours ago
@Stonewall Jackson

Taxes??? California just voted down proposition 19 which would have raised property taxes. No raises in property taxes.

christine , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:26 am GMT • 10.6 hours ago
@TKK

If only the vile white northern Euro invading scum had come with pipes of peace instead of guns and i find it poetic justice how guns and more guns and yet more guns are the scariest part of modern central North America.

May the spirits of those that suffered genocide and holocaust at the hands of gun wielding invading Northern Europeans be smiling from ear to ear at todays United Gun States of America.

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:14 am GMT • 9.8 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

They are the nut-cases who stick themselves full of needles and pins , and dye their hair blue so as to present their deranged worldview for all to see.

You forgot the utterly worthless dye disfigurement known as tattoos. All this probably has roots related to the mutilation known as circumcision as well.

Indignant of Maidstone , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:21 am GMT • 9.7 hours ago
@tomo

@tomo
Talk to them about Louis Farrakhan. He has the Nation of Islam ( https://www.noi.org/ ] eating out of his hand. The videos are out there.

Louis names the Jew without disaster resulting. Tell them about The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, a splendid book, available from Amazon – at a price or direct from the
https://www.noi.org/final-call-news/

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:36 am GMT • 9.5 hours ago
@Peter Frost e US along with the breakdown of the family, loss of the work ethic, a rampant sneering at honesty, and almost total lack of basic civility. One of my sisters attributes a lot of that to the effects of casting infants into daycare where it's "dog eat dog" from the beginning and which I believe is reinforced by years of exposure to the sinecure and benny seeking bureaucrats in the baby sitting and brainwashing institutions known as schools.

We have ourselves to blame for our choices both as individuals and as a society and we can whine all we want about blacks and others, but in the end we're paying for our worship and pursuit of "cool," or self absorption, or whatever.

animalogic , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:50 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@Negrolphin Pool

No, I agree -- a purely "racial" response should not be tried. It will lead to failure (which is not to say that things like race, culture, values, beliefs etc are not important)

noname27 , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 10:50 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@Montefrío

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zqv7hyc/revision/2

I suggest you also do a search on the infamous Jew, Aaron Lopez, and work out why he chose a Spanish name to hide behind rather than an Anglo-Saxon name.

Supply and Demand , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:53 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

The large majority of TrumpBoomers are screaming at the sky right now with this fraud cope, because it is inconceivable that a wave of brown, angry youth and affluent whites like myself have eclipsed them as a voting bloc. The white working class has been melting down worse than the 2016 SJW trannies for a week now.

christine , says: November 13, 2020 at 11:50 am GMT • 8.2 hours ago

Yes of course i would be polite and come in peace and i would make sure not to point a rifle or pistol at them and start shooting them and then start raping their women and children and i wouldn't slaughter any livestock that they may have to try and starve them because what decent white Northern European would do that in central North America anyway?.

If i came in peace and harmony like this they would naturally be far more likely to respond in kind and share with me what they may know about nature/god, just like what their wonderful ancestors learnt about from their use of plant medicines/entheogens/sacraments like the Peyote cactus for example that was used by the Apache Comanche and Kiowa tribes but if i was pure evil and slaughtered them then of course i wouldn't get to learn from their wisdom and i would deserve to remain in complete darkness (spiritually speaking) just like most everyone alive is in the U.S today.

Like i said upthread.

Don't fuck with the natives!.

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geokat62 , says: November 13, 2020 at 11:53 am GMT • 8.2 hours ago
@Wielgus

I got tripped up by this

His daughter, Miller's father, became a well-known novelist in Ireland.

Who is the subject in this sentence? Was it someone's daughter or Miller's father who became a well-known novelist in Ireland? The structure of your sentence makes it unclear.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 12:48 pm GMT • 7.3 hours ago
@Felix Krull who have given their support to Trump.

As I said originally, that doesn't automatically make the author a "racist" in the "bad" sense, but the suggestion is implicitly there for anyone who wants to make it.

Maybe the author is being emphatically practical in his analysis. FWIW in the past Australian experience, cohesive immigrant populations have taken at least a couple of generations to fully naturalise in Australian society. And there does seem to be a lot of cultural clashing going on in the USA. So maybe a coarse exclusionary approach to reclaiming power for the American people is the shortest path to a solution (albeit with potential for collateral damage).

Or maybe one has to read between the lines to get the full sense of what the author is trying to say.

Robjil , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:16 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago
@christine igners; and this spirit of wear, principle of any cowardice, is so natural in their hearts, that it is the continual object of the figures that they employ in the species of eloquence which is proper for them. Their glory is to put at fire and blood the small villages they can seize. They cut the throat of the old men and the children; they hold only the girls nubiles; they assassinate their Masters when they are slaves; they can never forgive when they are victorious: they are enemy of the human mankind. No courtesy, no science, no art improved in any time, in this atrocious nation. -- Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 2, page 83
Plato's Dream , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:36 pm GMT • 6.5 hours ago

Was it EVER possible to pronounce Mitt Romney's and John McCain's names without gagging? News to me

Also I disagree with the main premise that can be expressed in the ironic Russian saying: "They are fucking us, and yet we are just getting stronger". Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Success begets success, failure begets failure. With the machinery of state in the DemocRATs' hands, will they really allow their enemies to take back the levers of power? Last time was a fluke because Hurricane Donald had caught them by surprise.

noname27 , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 1:40 pm GMT • 6.4 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

Like you, your principles are part of the problem.

Wielgus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:57 pm GMT • 6.1 hours ago
@geokat62

Miller's mother , sorry, was a well-known novelist in Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Miller_(author)

glib , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:18 pm GMT • 5.8 hours ago
@Rogue ck of critique of their own past, lack of any sort of conciliatory moves towards past victims, dooms them.

And this when the entire world rejects globohomo (and usury) with disgust. They have all sorts of potential allies a home and abroad, and do not use them. Having lived in the Detroit area for decades, for example, I can tell you that local Muslims are ready-made allies. They are hardly the only ones. Count any working Latino and all people of Asian descent in this group, as well as all people of Eastern European descent. They even have allies among working blacks for christ sake. You are in the fight of your lives, and you don't even think about allies.

Jim Bob Lassiter , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:41 pm GMT • 5.4 hours ago
@Montefrío

I would say productive non-executive suite Whites are the new slaves in the Waspy-Jewy Anglo world. But Brazil isn't that far behind either with all of its Sherwin-Williams color sample shade cards being used in its own affirmative action programs.

geokat62 , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:07 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:32 pm GMT • 4.5 hours ago
@christine nominy of the Wars for Israel?

Unlike the profitable fables of holobiz, the Jewish rabid hatred towards Palestinians and the destruction of Palestinian lives is true. Thievery, sadism, torture of teenagers in Israeli prisons, desecration of Palestinian cemeteries, the intentional handicapping of Palestinian children Are you ready to talk about the Jeiwsh State's crimes against humanity, committed in the context of international law? (The US and Israel 'are joined at the hip' according to US Congresspeople). If not, then your 'righteous' diatribes are cheap.

And don't forget to check the amazing results of the Obama/Clinton's color revlution in Ukraine.

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:39 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago
@Truth irst son of a bitch who was foolish enough to bring over the African for cheap labor ( yes, the African did receive a wage in food, shelter and medical care), these fools using Mexicans for dirt cheap labor are ruining this nation because of greed and the love of money. That poor beaner busting his ass for 12 bucks an hour? Don't worry about him folks, he's living large because he's more than likely being paid cash or he's gaming the system and receiving all kinds of freebies along with a regular paycheck. I drive by a chicken processing plant daily that employs nothing but our friends from south of the border and I see some damn fine trucks and other nice looking vehicles.
Genrick Yagoda , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:17 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago
@Supply and Demand

The white working class has been melting down worse than the 2016 SJW trannies for a week now.

Is that right? So why were there no massive chimpouts and looting? Why was it not necessary to board up the stores, as it would have been had not the ZOG stolen the election?

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:29 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago
@anonymous

Stupidly, I think Trump tried to win over the corporate elite, Big Tech, Big Ag, etc.. Maybe bad advice from his son-in-law? Didn't listen to his intuition? Who knows.

If he is reelected, he will not make the same mistake twice. I think they know this too.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:30 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago
@christine ringing a force of about five or six to one against his enemy; kills helpless women and little children, and massacres th e men in their beds; and then brags about it as long as he lives, and his son and his grandson and great-grandson after him glorify it among the "heroic deeds of their ancestors."

https://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/redman.html

If you came in peace, do you think the Stone Age Siberians would have also shared their vast knowledge about the Wheel? Or metal smelting? Or writing and math?

Or even the toothbrush? Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:09 pm GMT • 2.9 hours ago

People like (((Christine))) always bring up atrocities committed against Indians and they make some valid points, HOWEVER, as we saw, (((Christine))) had nothing to say about Whites being butchered by racist Black homicidal maniacs in South Africa nor did she address the Holodomor. This leads me to believe that (((Christine))) the self proclaimed "Irish" lass is more than likely just a (((troll.)))

And of course, people like (((Christine))) don't talk about so-called Jews stealing the Palestinians land and brutalizing Palestinians, instead they focus on ANCIENT HISTORY. And these people will never talk about Black guys executing little white boys or Black guys snatching a little white boy from his white mother and throwing the kid off a balcony. Or how about when a black woman kidnapped a white boy in Texas and burned him to death with a blowtorch. Oh, yeah, lets focus on ancient history, which unless you lived back then no one really knows what the damn truth was, we know we certainly can't rely on (((historians))) or mainstream (((history books.))) Unless things change, 100 years from now, people will be reading about how 3 Black women sent America to the moon.

Obvious LIES that will be told or have been told

6 million Jews were gassed in concentration camps during WWII

Germany started WWII

the official 9-11 narrative

Osama Bin Laden was killed * that dude probably was dead years before he was claimed to have been killed, the guy was in poor health.

James Earl Ray did not kill MLK * the dude said so on his death bed, why would you still keep holding on to the same story if you were going to die anyhow?

And when it comes to Presidential elections.

JFK didn't beat Nixon
Dubya didn't beat Gore
And Joe Biden sure as hell didn't beat Trump, hell I would admit that if I hated Trump's guts. Don't like Gore, voted for that sorry sack of shit, Dubya, but no way in hell, Gore lost.

Some more code words we can start using ((( ))) for are (((SJW))) or (((military industrial complex.)))

Felix Krull , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:36 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave people too, patriotic or otherwise. White nationalism is a political stance, of course it will exclude people who are not white nationalists, duh!

Indeed, one bad thing leads to another. Once the dynamics are set in train, it will take generations to unravel (if ever).

What "bad thing" lead to blacks people committing heinous amounts of murder, robbery and rape? Slavery? Colonialism? Affirmative Action? Must be something whites did, right?

As I said originally, that doesn't automatically make the author a "racist" in the "bad" sense.

You have not explained what's bad about racism. And what are those quotation marks for?

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@Alden

You've never been around any American Indians or their national autonomous homelands aka rezess have you? As a group, they're probably the most contented of all definable American race and ethnic groups. At least they're not endlessly bitching whining and kvetching like the rest of us.

Aldey, having lived in the most Indian state in America for the last 17 years, I can assure you that that is patently ridiculous.

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@Genrick Yagoda

Some things never change. As Mark Twain wrote in his Essay about The Noble Red Man;

He is ignoble–base and treacherous, and hateful in every way. Not even imminent death can startle him into a spasm of virtue .

With that Twain appears slightly ahead of his time. He could have just as accurately been describing other "Reds," such as the Bolsheviks and their supporters most of whom could have taught the Indians a thing or two about terror and torture especially the mass varieties.

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:43 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@Trinity

I drive by a chicken processing plant daily that employs nothing but our friends from south of the border and I see some damn fine trucks and other nice looking vehicles.

They're probably hiring, Old Sport.

Supply and Demand , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:12 pm GMT • 1.9 hours ago
@Genrick Yagoda

Whites are storming ballot counting centers instead of looting their own businesses. Whites routinely chimp out, they just pick different targets. Look at the devastation around Hockey arenas when teams win the Stanley Cup.

As far as the election being stolen, well, you sound like a crazed conspiracy nutter.

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:27 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago
@Truth

They are ALWAYS hiring, breh. Maybe you can tell some of da homies. But I doubt da homies could cut the mustard. I worked with tons of Mexicans and El Salvadorans and I can tell you from experience they really look down on lazy negroes. My gawd, some of the things I heard these Brown folks say about Black folks had me blushing crimson. I went from Donald Trump orange to the color of my favorite soda, cherry red. Cue: You Can't Always Get What You Want by Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stoooooooooones.

Robjil , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:43 pm GMT • 1.4 hours ago

US Presidents are figure heads. Jared Kushner or Douglas Emhoff are the real deal in our Zogacracy.

https://www.jta.org/2020/11/07/politics/iran-israel-anti-semitism-and-more-what-to-watch-in-joe-bidens-presidency

The Second Guy: Kamala Harris' husband, Douglas Emhoff, is Jewish; he will not only be the "second gentleman" (caveat: No one has settled on a term for the job), he will be the first Jewish second spouse. Emhoff has been vocal about his Jewish identity, and it will be interesting to see how that plays out in a role that has been used to advance education initiatives.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/doug-emhoff-job-kamala-harris-white-house-biden-administratio-b1720674.html

Kamala Harris's husband has quit his law firm job for a White House role despite claiming he wouldn't go into politics.

Doug Emhoff will leave DLA Piper, where is a partner, by inauguration day on 20 January, according to the Associated Press.

Mr Emhoff took a leave of absence from the firm in August when vice president-elect Harris ran on Joe Biden's ticket.

The future second man is reportedly working with Mr Biden's transition team to establish a role for him in the administration.

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:11 pm GMT • 54 minutes ago
@Alden lcohol.

Yet, there do remain groupings of well-rooted people who are able to cope with a clinically insane "white" culture which surrounds them physically and throughout most electronic mediums. Their struggle is huge, yet they persist in reconnecting with traditional tribal values, with powwows, drumming fests and even -- gradually -- re-learning their indigenous languages.

There are still waaaay too many European-descended people in my area who retain an ignorant , discriminatory and even prejudicial attitude towards these, our neighbors and in some cases, potential teachers. But those who reach out do tend to reach those who also reach out. So hope remains.

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:14 pm GMT • 51 minutes ago
@Genrick Yagoda

HATER -- perhaps not without some viable personal reason/s, but nevertheless one incapable of discriminating between individuals and devolved into rank prejudice.

Authenticjazzman , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:25 pm GMT • 40 minutes ago
@aleksander

Brilliant!!! Absolutely brilliant.

I spent time on the other side of the wall early seventies, and I will never forget the dead eyes of the oppressed citizenry and the morgue-like atmosphere of the grey cities, and these lunatic Democrats are now pushing to create such a scenario in the US

AJM

DT 2020

[Nov 13, 2020] On Tucker Carlson's show about six weeks ago, Tucker had on guest Darren Beattie to describe the specific type of color revolution that the Democrat Party appeared to be planning to proceed ahead with to usurp this election:

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Pure Coincidence , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:52 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago

@Brett Redmayne-Titley

Excellent article and explanation of procedure, Mr. Redmayne-Titley. On Tucker Carlson's show about six weeks ago, Tucker had on guest Darren Beattie to describe the specific type of color revolution that the Democrat Party appeared to be planning to proceed ahead with to usurp this election:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cUxilJznKyY?feature=oembed

Tucker's show tonight will be as clear as could be as to which Tucker he is going to be selling to his huge audience: independent journalist or Fox News/DS apparatchik. I will be watching and hope that he will continue to be the voice of much of the people, though his letting up on the Hunter Biden story was troubling to say the least.

ThisIsAnon153Replying , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago
@TRM

Even with Pennsylvania and Georgia, the 2 most likely to flip imo, trump would still lose, unless he miraculously flips Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, or Michigan.

The fix was in no doubt and trump won all those states fairly, but its a tall order and I'm skeptical that trump can pull it off.

TRM , says: November 9, 2020 at 11:11 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago
@ThisIsAnon153Replying

Biden is at 290. Penn is 20. Any loss of any state after Penn and Biden loses. I don't see Biden holding all 4.

Orca , says: November 9, 2020 at 6:00 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago

The Media is a serious enemy of The United States. This is treason by no other definition, it goes beyond free speech.

Curmudgeon , says: November 9, 2020 at 6:09 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago
@shylockcracy

Thanks to the Trumpet, the CIA/FBI/NSA, etc., have now been able to clearly identidy the sections of the populace that feel their pure whiteness is being victimised,

Were you in a coma for a number of years? For 20 years, starting with William Binney through Edward Snowdon and Dave Montgomery, there have been warnings that the alphabet agencies have been illegally spying the US citizens. Montgomery pointed out they spied on Trump before he became a candidate.
The Trumpian corporate party's biggest sin was trying to get in on the Republocrat – Demican Uni-party corporate party action.
Never gonna happen.

Cyrano , says: November 9, 2020 at 8:46 pm GMT • 3.4 days ago
@Tyler Durden

I believe that US are truthful when they talk about "free" elections. Theoretically, the only way you can get something "free" in life is – if you steal it, or if somebody gives you something as a gift. This "election" has fulfilled both of these 2 criteria. First the deep state stole the election from Trump and then they presented it as a gift to Biden. So it's all good. It was a free election for Biden, Trump got robbed – but hey, you can't please everybody.

anon [383] Disclaimer , says: November 9, 2020 at 11:41 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago

Karma's a biatch. All those color revolutions in Ukraine, Venezuela, Iran, Hong Kong, propped up in one way or another by Mike Pompeo when he was head of CIA continuing into Secretary of State, is now coming back to haunt Trump. Good job appointing that fat fuck.

If Trump loses, it would be his own doing in some ways. He has failed to roll back legal immigration esp. H1B/OPT until a month before the election, and spent most of his time catering to the Zionist filth with all the nauseating sycophantic overt pandering to Israel and the Wall Street Jews. Wormtongue's pandering to the blacks by letting all the drug dealers out of jail is backfiring big time too. 92% of blacks still voted for Biden so fuck you Kushner.

If Trump somehow survives this and actually comes back to win, I hope he learned from his mistake in the first term. Instead of spending all 4 years pandering to Jews and blacks who didn't vote for him, spend his time taking care of those who did vote for him, his white voting base, and we want an end to H1B, OPT, EB5, L1, illegal immigration. No more green cards for the next 40 years! Begin mass deportation. Most importantly, fire Pompeo and Javanka!

Skeptikal , says: November 10, 2020 at 12:15 am GMT • 3.3 days ago

Many thanks, Mr. Redmayne, for this overview-cum-dissection of the recount scenarios.

That all of these counting-stopping orders took place in swing states defies credulity.
Surely poll workers were being paid to continue counting throughout the night. Not to go home and catch 40 winks. Lord knows we have plenty of night-time workers in this 24/7 country.

It is ironic that in the context of the USA's overseas military disasters, the common advice when the home team is obviously getting pounded has been "Just declare yourself the winner" and get the hell out.

Seems like the Dems are using this playbook and hoping they can create a new reality by declaring it so.

The spectacle of Joe Biden calling for "unity" after the shitshow following 2016 is rich.
I doubt that this richness is going to be lost on the "losers" in this election.

The country is very n eatly divided between blue urban and red countryside. I would not county on "unity" rearing its head anywhere in redland.

Biden ain't no Lincoln.

Carroll Price , says: November 10, 2020 at 12:32 am GMT • 3.3 days ago
@The Alarmist

The only people loyal to Trump is the working class. No one else gives a damn whether he lives or dies, including the vast majority of Republican officials and office holders concerned only with keeping what they have.

Paul Lake , says: November 10, 2020 at 1:55 am GMT • 3.2 days ago
@Beavertales

Yes, the disgusting PC CBC reporters display their contempt for Trump at every turn, and are complicit in obscuring Democrat misdeeds, whether by uncritically parroting the Maddow ravings on Russiagate or ignoring the influence peddling of Dems from Biden to HRC. CBC reporters are repeatedly characterizing charges of election fraud as groundless. Clearly they are unaware of Pelosi's admission of how the public is misinformed, with her description of 'leaking' fabricated allegations to MSM insiders, then using the subsequent MSM reports as 'evidence' of veracity.

annamaria , says: Next New Comment November 10, 2020 at 12:56 pm GMT • 2.8 days ago
@GMC ciders). The not-so-youthful Obamas the Fraud and the badly aged Clintons have been liberally using revolutionary rhetoric a la Che Gevara, never mind that the Obamas and Clintons are major war criminals guilty of the mass slaughter of civilian populations (including the multitude of children) in the brown countries of Syria and Lybia and non-brown countries of former Yugoslavia and Ukraine. They, Obamas and Clintons, are murderers, cannibals. Yet for the 'progressive' wokes, the history of the US is not known and is not interesting for knowing. The wokes like the keto diet, mild psychedelics, cool outfit, and a special set of words, including 'solidarity, social awareness, political correctness, LGBTQIA' and such to stroke gently their, wokes,' egos. The aroma of rot is in the air.
annamaria , says: Next New Comment November 10, 2020 at 1:18 pm GMT • 2.8 days ago
@The Alarmist ake-sure-trump-supporters-receive-accountability
Emily Abrams can not forgive Trump for being so ineffective in the Middle East. Unlike the Obama/Clinton administration, Trump has not started a new War for Israel. And for this, Trump and "anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump" must be punished.

Meanwhile, the reality is hitting up:

After Attorney General Bill Barr authorized federal prosecutors to pursue "substantial allegations" of irregularities in the 2020 presidential election, the head of the DOJ's Election Crimes Branch [Richard Pilger] has decided to resign.

https://www.rt.com/usa/506245-doj-election-investigation-resign/

Pancho , says: Next New Comment November 10, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT • 2.6 days ago

Vote fraud is as American as apple pie. Just remember how JFK and George W. Bush manged to sneak into the White House. America has always bee a banana republic, now it has just become more evident.

[Nov 13, 2020] BREAKING EXCLUSIVE- Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems

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Jimi Headstone Biden is a FRAUD 2 days ago ,

So despite the help from the massive software "glitch", Biden fraud machine had to dump late night dump ballots all for Biden only in a hurry. How bad did he lose? It almost looks like most of his votes are fabricated. I would not be surprised if he were 20 points behind in legal votes.

forgivn73 Jimi Headstone 2 days ago ,

I think the ballot dumping was the side show to keep us from finding out about the vote switching and deleting. How can this be verified, and how can this be seen on the machines now?

Marchioness forgivn73 2 days ago ,

There is a lawsuit by the guy who invented email (not Gore), but the PhD at MIT who invented it is suing for the ballot images...

Ricke Floyd Marchioness 2 days ago • edited ,

Dr Shiva, badass brown guy

TheMarshall Ricke Floyd 2 days ago ,

Badass American of Indian decent (actually was born in India I believe but family came here legally when a young child). Ran for senate in Massachusetts as a Republican and was/is a big Trump supporter. Blew the doors off the Covid 19 scam, not that it wasn't real but how it was being treated and handled by MSM and the Socialist Democratic Party, ie, by those who hyped the whole thing.

Ricke Floyd TheMarshall 2 days ago • edited ,

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Tom Davis Ricke Floyd 2 days ago • edited ,

EventBrite just told everyone that "March for Trump" was cancelled. It is NOT Cancelled.
The Elites / Big-Tech / MSM (including Fox) are TERRIFIED We Will Show Up - doing everything possible to shut us down.
Don't let them. Break their Narrative.
Get to DC or the nearest contested state-house This Weekend, or we hand Biden the WH.

realvoter2012 Tom Davis 2 days ago ,

Million MAGA March is on Twitter use @milionmagamarch. Type only one "l" for million – they have to trick Twitter for censoring them.

Snorpheus realvoter2012 21 hours ago ,

People are using parler. I nuked my Twitter, as have many.

realvoter2012 Snorpheus 19 hours ago ,

I'm already on Parler, will dump Twitter soon.

MikeR Snorpheus 16 hours ago • edited ,

🤷‍♂️ Remember "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN."

I've never used Twitter, Facebook, nor Instagram. I never intend to. I do not have a television in my house. I don't miss it, either.

"People who like to waste hours of their time yakking with people they've never actually met" are an easy-to-reach demographic. But, nothing more.

Santiago Matamoros MikeR 5 hours ago ,

Even if you don't persuade the opposition, you can at least encourage those who need it.

42comment MikeR 10 hours ago ,

Gore wins over Bush

Joseph Mack Tom Davis 2 days ago ,

CORRECTION!! We hand the WH to Kamala, the most leftist (socialist) senator in the Senate! She falls right in line with Hugo Chavez and Nicolás Maduro, Fidel,Stalin and other (in)famous dictators politically. If you are a veteran, have a CFL, have made a firearms purchase from a dealer, etc. - your personal information WILL be found and used to confiscate your arms if these socialists gain enough power. They have already stated that they will rejoin the 'climate accords,' restart 'fair trade' with China, move our embassy out of Jerusalem, restart nuclear 'cooperation' with N. Korea, pass 'common sense' gun laws to protect our citizens (never mind the THOUSANDS of gun laws now on the books that are NOT ENFORCED,) tear down 'Orange Man Bads' border fence, open up our borders to all comers, and amnesty all illegals now in the nation - and that's just for a start.

Michael Hennesy Joseph Mack a day ago ,

You are so right ....but the Marxists better ask the British what happened when General Gage sent British regulars to DISARM AMERICANS at CONCORD . THAT is when the Revolutionary War turned into a REAL SHOOTING WAR .

GenEarly Joseph Mack a day ago • edited ,

Avoidance of War is Not Peace. While I am praying for Honest Election Results that = Trump Victory, the NWO Deep State must be stopped Now.
Marxist democRats and Quisling repubs are Bought and Paid for by their NWO Oligarch Masters.
Never Submit, Never Surrender.
If they mean to have CW, then let it begin with this Coup if it is accomplished in Jan of 21

Second Lite GenEarly 2 hours ago ,

When things go dark, know what to do.

sammi42 TheMarshall a day ago ,

And it is still being hyped big time all for political reasons pro-Biden.

Marianne TheMarshall 2 days ago ,

He also doesn't believe AIDS is caused by HIV... really?! And that we should expand the USPS by having them set up and regulate a national email service. Broken clock, twice-a-day, etc.

Watchman Marianne 2 days ago ,

H.I.V was found to be nothing more than Biologically Inactive Gunk by Nobel Laureate Professor and Cancer specialist Doctor Peter Duesberg and his work was backed up by Nobel Laureate Doctor Carey Mullin. The H.I.V hypothesis proposed by the Fraudulent Doctors Gallo and Anthony Fao-Chi[ yes! That Fao-chi] never passed the Koch Postulates, so they turned to the MSM to pressure the Reagan administration into acceptance of their Hypothesis and that is the most important part of the H.I.V Hypothesis...

42comment Watchman 10 hours ago ,

Wow, I hadn't heard that. Thank you.

America's Voice Fan Marianne 2 days ago • edited ,

Yesterday on hannity's radio show, John Solomon was severely downplaying the software problems. Never trusted that guy. Does anyone ever say, "hey, you have to check out Just the News?!". NOPE.

Nukecell America's Voice Fan 11 hours ago ,

John Solomon was an integral part of uncovering the SpyGate scandal. Just because he says something you disagree with does NOT make him a partisan hack.. He's one of the last investigative reporters left in the U.S.

aaron ortwein Nukecell 10 hours ago ,

He speaks the truth and the truth is that as of now we have zero evidence of wrongdoing other than hearsay. "Data passed around" analyzed by some guy does not cut the mustard in court. Actual proof is needed and as of now we are just spouting BS. I am not delusional as most of you and understand that as we sit we are losing big time. He does not say everything I need to hear......WAAAAAAAA.

America's Voice Fan Nukecell 11 hours ago • edited ,

I don't really trust him after watching him on Lou Dobbs A LOT. He squirms out of tough questions. I agree about the investigation into obamagate with Sara Carter. Why is he now putting a liberal (UNTRUE) spin on the software problems?

aaron ortwein America's Voice Fan 10 hours ago ,

No spin, Just the truth. The evidence as of now would get thrown out of court as it is hearsay. Get the data looked at by a real analytics team not some random guy sitting in his basement.

DadintheBurbs Ricke Floyd 2 days ago ,

He ran hard against Pocahontas up here in MA. Brilliant man! Someone had to step up with indisputable proof and stop this charade now! OT: Watched a bit of Tucker Carlson tonight...the bosses got to him. He's talking about senile Biden's virus response. No Tucker, President Trump is in charge.

DG Canelli DadintheBurbs 2 days ago ,

I agree! Tucker was singing the praises of FNC several nights ago about their truth telling...what garbage! Tucker can go too with FNC, I'm done with them!

JONES DG Canelli 2 days ago ,

That was before election night. Before the election panel showed their a$$.

gi joe DG Canelli 2 days ago ,

Lets not forget that Tucker even stated himself that Hunter Biden was a good friend of his ... Did you guys

miss that statement he made ? and then stated that he would no longer discuss the laptops that were

discovered. And by the way, don't hear a word about that anymore !

Second Lite gi joe 2 hours ago ,

I don't hear a word from Fox anymore. I must be fickle.

America's Voice Fan gi joe 11 hours ago ,

I read an email on the laptop from Tucker to Hunter the day after he said that on his show. It was just thanking Hunter for writing a letter of recommendation to Georgetown for someone. Nothing bad, but Tucker would not touch the photos on the laptop of incest with underage family members.

[Nov 13, 2020] Announcement- Newslink Aggregator Based on Crowdsourcing by Ron Unz

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Newslink Aggregator Based on Crowdsourcing RON UNZ NOVEMBER 11, 2020 800 WORDS 79 COMMENTS REPLY Tweet Reddit Share Share Email Print More RSS

A couple of weeks ago Rurik, one of our most frequent longtime commenters, suggested that we add a "Breaking News" section, providing newslinks to external articles along the general lines of the influential Drudge Report:

I'd like to take this opportunity to make a suggestion.

I used to visit Drudge from time to time, just to get the latest news. If there was a plane crash or coup somewhere in the world, Drudge would usually be one of the first, if not first to have a link, if not a headline.

But Drudge has become 'woke' of late, and so he's as useless as the MSM.

Which leaves a dearth of news sites linking to news stories. Especially with an objective interest in what is news per se, rather than their eternally agenda-driven slant, as you well know.

So the suggestion I have, is for The Unz Review to start a 'Breaking News' section.

If Russia shoots down a Turkish jet, instead of going to CNN or the NYT to read how 'Russia's provocations against NATO and International Law have become untenable and a dangerous threat to world peace and stability'.

We can get a more measured and nuanced look at breaking news, with links to the stories from a vast and wide-array of international news organizations.

From there perhaps your website could allow for commenting on the breaking news, or not.

But since there is such a dearth of objective news sites, or those linking to them, I just wonder if such an addition to the (amazing and inimitable) Unz Review wouldn't be resoundingly popular. Perhaps even one day competing with and eventually replacing Drudge as the go-to site for breaking news on the Internet.

Thank you for your consideration,

the humble commenter ~ Rurik

He soon added that our own commenters would be ideally suited to providing such a crowdsourced presentation of important stories ignored by the MSM:

contemplating this, I wondered- ok, that would require someone to peruse the international and domestic news for interesting and consequential 'breaking news'.

And who better to do that, than the notoriously news-savvy Unz Review commenter-commentariat?

Such a space would certainly need to be moderated for chaff, (considering the trolls that inhabit your site), and commenting would slow it down, but perhaps at the start, give it a boost.

Already your willing staff participate 'gratis', posting breaking news on existing threads, occasionally admitting it to be off topic, but on a "Breaking News' addition to your site, it would be appropriate for all topics to be covered, so long as they were of interest.

I even wonder if a kind of Drudge-style format wouldn't work well. With several news stories displayed on the page, with the most recent or most news-worthy at the top.

Just 'thinking out loud here '

I'm sure you're familiar with WRH.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

And that site is enormously popular simply by posting breaking news, with some slight commentary from the site owner.

But that site is bogged down with enough ads to alienate many people, so there again, another opportunity to fill a vacuum.

It amazes me that there is such a dearth of objective news sites on the Internet. Especially as Drudge was so popular, (and lucrative and influential). But now he's become woke, and it seems like there's simply hardly anywhere to go for interesting and consequential news that isn't part of the American Pravda cabal.

This seemed like a very good idea to consider, especially since I'd recently noticed the rise of other newslink-aggregation websites. Therefore, I have now gone ahead and built it , generally following the simple design of the Revolver website.

Newslink Aggregation Section

Since this is an alternative media website, with a very energetic and ideologically-diverse commentariat of thousands of regular readers, I'd hope that they would soon become source of the overwhelming majority of our newslinks. All frequent commenters -- those currently provided access to the Opinion Response buttons -- are now also allowed to suggest possible Newslinks, though I'm currently applying a restriction of 3 per 24 hours. To suggest a possible Newslink just click the Suggestion box at the top of the Newslink page and add it in the following very simple format:

If your Newslink is approved, it will be added to the top of the page. Depending upon how things go, I may need to adjust some of there parameters over time.

Given the increasingly harsh Social Media crackdown on the distribution of unorthodox opinions, I think these sorts of aggregation pages may become more important in the future.

The Newslink section is now displayed in the top menu and also the Sidebar. I'd look forward to hearing your perspectives and suggestions.

[Nov 13, 2020] Trump's corporatism is not a branch of the Uni-party. His is mildly nationalistic while the Uniparty's is openly the global hegemony.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Curmudgeon , says: Next New Comment November 10, 2020 at 7:47 pm GMT • 2.5 days ago

@shylockcracy Solmeimani, he hasn't started any shooting wars. Sanctions are undeclared wars, and Trump's sanctions help US corporations, most of which are globalist anyway. Same shit different pile.

The last US Presidents who were mildly anti-Zionist were turfed out of office and assassinated. All of the branches of the USG are (((occupied territory))) and have been for decades, as was noted by George Wallace in the 1960s.

Trump's redeeming qualities are few and far between, but getting out of "free trade" deals and reduced immigration, whether legal or illegal, are a big finger in the eye of the globalists. Other than that, it appears as if he is the only one serious about cleaning up vote fraud. If the Demicans are caught out, they will shut down the Republocrats fixing in retaliation, until a new scam is figured out.

[Nov 13, 2020] A very disturbing thought: what if Nov. 3 election really "was the most secure in American history"

Nov 13, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS)'s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency on Thursday concluded that the Nov. 3 election "was the most secure in American history," saying that "election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result."

Mr. Bones , 5 hours ago

Nov. 3 election "was the most secure in American history

It's a disturbing thought, but this doesn't exclude the possibility that there was pervasive fraud.

Oilwatcher , 4 hours ago

I'm thinking the DHS Cybersecurity Office may not understand how paper mail in ballots work.

[Nov 13, 2020] Vote fraud is as American as apple pie.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Pancho , says: Next New Comment November 10, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT • 2.6 days ago

Vote fraud is as American as apple pie. Just remember how JFK and George W. Bush managed to sneak into the White House. America has always bee a banana republic, now it has just become more evident.

annamaria , says: Next New Comment November 10, 2020 at 9:50 pm GMT • 2.4 days ago
@Pancho

Enjoy! Straight from the horse's mouth;

https://www.youtube.com/embed/WGRnhBmHYN0?feature=oembed

[Nov 13, 2020] Trump's big mistake was not holding rallies in cemeteries. Biden basically won 100% of the dead vote, pushing him over the top.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Welfarebum , 4 hours ago

Trump's big mistake was not holding rallies in cemeteries. Biden basically won 100% of the dead vote, pushing him over the top.

[Nov 13, 2020] Note on "there were no voting fraud" statements from neoliberal MSM

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

CCZ , says: November 10, 2020 at 6:37 pm GMT • 3.1 days ago

"The difference, however, is that that was all bullshit."

But, as the programmer Alberto Brandolini is reputed to have said: "The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." This is the unbearable asymmetry of bullshit .

https://www.theifod.com/brandolinis-law-the-bullshit-asymmetry-principle/

[Nov 13, 2020] Obama: Accepting Biden as the "president elect" is important for protecting American democracy

Nov 13, 2020 | www.imemc.org

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:42 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

So fraud is needed to protect the reputation of American democracy. Only fraud can!

Thanks, PCR!

[Nov 13, 2020] Tucker Carlson: This is a corporate takeover of the country. Joe Biden's transition advisers include executives from Uber, Visa, Capital One, Airbnb, Amazon, the Chan Zuckerberg Foundation and the nonprofit run by Google CEO Eric Schmidt. Are you surprised? No, you're not

Notable quotes:
"... ...BIDEN, SPEAKING DURING SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE: Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people. And all of those so-called dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship. ..."
Nov 13, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

This is a corporate takeover of the country. Joe Biden's transition advisers include executives from Uber, Visa, Capital One, Airbnb, Amazon, the Chan Zuckerberg Foundation and the nonprofit run by Google CEO Eric Schmidt. Are you surprised? No, you're not.

...According to an analysis by The Wall Street Journal, at least 40 members of the Biden transition team announced earlier this week either were or are registered lobbyists. You won't be shocked to learn that the government of China looks on at all this and is highly pleased. A weak, divided America obsessed with narcissistic identity politics is good for them and very different from them.

... Joe Biden has announced that as president he will not deport a single illegal alien from this country in his first 100 days. It doesn't matter who they are, it doesn't matter what they've done. It doesn't matter whether they were convicted of crimes such as rape and murder or not. Literally, they can all stay here.

This is great news if you're Silicon Valley. The tech companies wanted this because they rely on cheap labor. But for the rest of us, what's the upside exactly? By the way, if you live anywhere along the U.S.-Mexico border, good luck to you. Also, don't bother locking your doors or pining for a border wall or thinking that immigration restrictions might improve your life.

...BIDEN, SPEAKING DURING SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE: Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people. And all of those so-called dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship.

[Nov 13, 2020] Dead people tend to vote more often, if you make it more convenient for them

Nov 13, 2020 | parler.com

Here is alternative BitChute's posting as a backup to Parler: https://www.bitchute.com/video/oV2Bp07vvWxw/

[Nov 13, 2020] TUCKER CARLSON PROVIDES COMPLETE TOTAL PROOF OF WIDESPREAD DEMOCRAT VOTE FRAUD THAT STOLE THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Nov 12, 2020 | www.paulcraigroberts.org

TUCKER CARLSON PROVIDES COMPLETE TOTAL PROOF OF WIDESPREAD DEMOCRAT VOTE FRAUD THAT STOLE THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Paul Craig Roberts

Tucker Carlson is the ONLY honest media figure in the United States. No wonder the presstitutes want him arrested. I am concerned that the criminal Hillary DNC will have him assassinated. You are simply not permitted to tell the truth in the United States. To tell the truth in the American media is a capital offense.

This had to be posted on Parler because Twitter, FaceBook, and YouTube will not permit the Fox News report on Vote Theft to be posted. What more evidence do you need that there is a conspiracy to steal the presidential election from Trump? If the treasonous and criminal Democrats get away with their coup against democracy, the United States is finished as a country. No Trump voter will ever again think of the US as his/her country.

https://parler.com/post/f4b23b8551d34921ab7cf9f2833709e0

Here is BitChute's posting as a backup to Parler: https://www.bitchute.com/video/oV2Bp07vvWxw/

Some browser's refuse to open these alternative sites. It shows how tight the tech conspiracy against truth is.

[Nov 13, 2020] The shadow of Quisling

Nov 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Norwegian , Nov 11 2020 22:20 utc | 102

@Zanon | Nov 11 2020 21:31 utc | 82

NATO says Biden victory will help with 'assertive Russia,' as influential Moscow MP warns Democrat sees country as 'main enemy'
https://www.rt.com/russia/506094-nato-biden-election-tensions/

As a Norwegian I can say with some authority that I know what the word "Quisling" means, and Stoltenberg is following in that "proud" tradition. He is a puppet and collaborator of the worst kind.

For those who don't know, Quisling was a member of the Norwegian pre-war government in the 1930's. When the German Nazis arrived in the morning of April 9, 1940 and the government and King escaped northwards, Quisling performed a Coup d'Etat by going on state radio and declared himself "Minister President", and collaborated with the Nazi occupation forces.

Everybody knew the meaning of the word "Quisling", even the Germans. The story goes that during the occupation, in one of the illegal resistance pamphlets there was a cartoon showing Herr Quisling going to Victoria Terasse (Nazi headquarters in Oslo) to visit Josef Terboven (German Reichskommissar for Norway):

Quisling arrives at the gate and says to the German guard: "I am Quisling"
The guard replies: "And your name please?"

Terboven and Quisling in 1942

He was executed in 1946.

[Nov 13, 2020] The USA did borrowed some seven fine tactics from LA banana republics

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Reaper , says: November 9, 2020 at 4:02 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago

The USA did set some fine tactics for other banana republics:

  1. dead rise from grave to vote (still not everywhere used)
  2. vote as caretaker, like social worker vote for mentaly disabled so represent hundreds
  3. date back mail in votes in post office
  4. accidentaly lost some mail in vote boxes from key areas
  5. as vote counter do not count votes – but fill out voting papers and count only those
  6. as a family member for an ill person vote for "their behalf", no matter if done for a different candidate than they wish
  7. Let election clerks to tamper with bulletins.

So some pearl for banana elections.

'If Voting Made A Difference, They Wouldn't Let Us Do It'?

https://www.dreamstime.com/follow-leader-two-leaders-different-flags-bring-to-vote-flocks-sheep-separated-wall-cannot-be-seen-image150139068

[Nov 13, 2020] Who's meddling now- Zuckerberg tells employees it's 'clear' Biden won still-contested US election

Hypocrisy is a tribute that vice pays to virtue."
And Zuk probably really believes that the outcome of elections is clear; after all he participated in achieving that result
Nov 13, 2020 | www.rt.com

Apparently disregarding Facebook's public-facing image as a fierce opponent of election meddling by entities not legitimately involved in the political process, Zuckerberg dived into the fray during a Thursday company-wide town hall, according to an audio of the meeting first obtained by Buzzfeed and later confirmed by CNBC .

"I believe the outcome of the election is now clear and Joe Biden is going to be our next president," Zuckerberg reportedly told the assembled crowd. "It's important that people have confidence that the election was fundamentally fair, and that goes for the tens of millions of people that voted for Trump."

[Nov 12, 2020] Fox News is now Fix News

As it it was not Fix neww before...
Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Priss Factor , says: Website November 11, 2020 at 2:22 pm GMT • 9.3 hours ago

Fox News is now Fix News.

[Nov 12, 2020] Trump allies clash with top intelligence officials in quest to declassify more Russia documents by Zachary Cohen, Jamie Gangel and Evan Perez

Notable quotes:
"... Nunes, the panel's top Republican, repeatedly made that claim on Lou Dobbs' Fox Business program last month, while alleging that the "intelligence services in this country have been corrupted by the Democratic national party and their propaganda arm in the media." ..."
Nov 12, 2020 | www.msn.com

CNN 2 hrs ago

As President Donald Trump and his allies continue to publicly dispute the outcome of the election, they are also quietly seeking to discredit the Russia investigation that has cast a dark cloud over the administration for more than four years.

© Pool/Getty Images North America/Getty Images WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 24: U.S. President Donald Trump looks on during a meeting Polish President Andrzej Duda in the Oval Office of the White House on June 24, 2020 in Washington, DC. Duda, who faces a tight re-election contest in four days, is Trump's first world leader visit from overseas since the coronavirus pandemic began. (Photo by Erin Schaff-Pool/Getty Images)

Before Election Day, senior career intelligence officials and congressional Democrats braced for Trump's handpicked director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, to release highly classified documents related to the FBI's Russia probe, which they feared would expose critical sources and methods.

Those concerns roared back this week in the wake of a flurry of personnel changes at the National Security Agency -- and the Pentagon -- as Trump installed political loyalists in key positions where they could help turn the tide in the behind-the-scenes battle over declassifying documents, which has raged for weeks.

Trump believes the documents in question will undermine the intelligence community's unanimous finding that Russia interfered in the 2016 race to help him win, by exposing so-called "deep state" plots against his campaign and transition during the Obama administration, according to multiple current and former officials.

But CIA and National Security Agency career officials have strenuously objected to releasing certain information from the Russia interference assessment, arguing that it would seriously damage sources and methods in a way that the intelligence community doesn't believe can be easily repaired.

Both agencies have also cited concerns about cherry-picking information to release and the politicization of their work as they fight against Ratcliffe's recent efforts to satisfy Trump's promises to declassify thousands of pages of documents.

Multiple sources familiar with the classified materials have downplayed the significance of these documents, telling CNN the administration won't make political hay by releasing them despite the President's fixation.

While Ratcliffe and former acting DNI Richard Grenell have sought to declassify documents related to the Russia probe and Hillary Clinton's emails, CIA Director Gina Haspel and National Security Agency chief Gen. Paul Nakasone have fought those moves.

Several batches of documents have been declassified, including the release of unverified Russian intelligence from 2016 that suggested Clinton's presidential campaign was trying to tie Trump to Russia . Trump and his allies have seized on the documents to attack the Obama administration -- and President-elect Joe Biden -- during the 2020 campaign.

The National Security Agency and the CIA have repeatedly opposed Ratcliffe's declassification of the unverified intelligence.

Behind the scenes, Haspel has defended the work of career officials who have come under criticism from Trump and allies over 2016-era intelligence work behind the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 US election.

Haspel's job in jeopardy while Trump elevates loyalists

The standoff has led the President to become increasingly frustrated with Haspel, in particular, who he blames for delaying the release of these documents despite the fact that he and Ratcliffe have the authority to declassify the additional intelligence at their own discretion. At the end of the day, if Trump wanted these documents declassified, he could do it himself.

A senior administration official and three former administration officials with knowledge of the situation told CNN they expect the President to fire his CIA director, as he did Defense Secretary Mark Esper .

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, have attempted to protect Haspel from Trump's wrath in recent days, providing public displays of support for the CIA director amid speculation of her possible ouster.

Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas voiced his support for Haspel in a tweet Tuesday, saying: "Intelligence should not be partisan. Not about manipulation, it is about preserving impartial, nonpartisan information necessary to inform policy makers and so the can protect the US."

The post prompted immediate backlash from the President's son Donald Trump Jr, who called Haspel a "trained liar."

"Have you or @marcorubio or @senatemajldr actually discussed this with anyone in the Admin. who actually works with her, like @DNI_Ratcliffe or @MarkMeadows or @robertcobrien, to get their perspective, or are you just taking a trained liar's word for it on everything?" he tweeted, tagging McConnell and Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, who serves as acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

While Haspel's immediate future as CIA director remains uncertain, Trump moved several political allies into new roles at the Pentagon and National Security Agency this week -- placing them in career positions, which come with civil service protections. They could also have an immediate impact on the release of classified documents.

Michael Ellis, an official on the National Security Council , shifted over to the National Security Agency as legal counsel, which puts him in a civil servant role at an agency at the forefront of the declassification dispute.

Ellis is widely considered to be a partisan Trump loyalist and has little intelligence experience despite being elevated to the job of the White House's top national security lawyer under the President.

He was part of several White House controversies, including overruling career officials over classified information in the book written by former national security adviser John Bolton.

CNN has previously reported that Ellis came under scrutiny for his alleged roundabout role in providing information to GOP Rep. Devin Nunes of California, then-chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, which showed members of Trump's team were included in foreign surveillance reports collected by US intelligence.

Another former Nunes aide, Kash Patel, will become chief of staff to acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller, according to an administration official and a US defense official.

The House impeachment inquiry uncovered evidence connecting Patel to the diplomatic back channel led by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, and the efforts to spread conspiracy theories about Biden and coerce Ukraine into announcing an investigation of the former vice president.

A third Trump loyalist with ties to Nunes, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was also elevated to a senior role at the Pentagon this week.

Cohen-Watnick gained notoriety in March 2017 for his alleged involvement with Ellis in providing intelligence materials to Nunes, who went on to claim that US intelligence officials improperly surveilled Trump associates.

In his new post as the Pentagon's acting under secretary for intelligence, Cohen-Watnick could find himself at odds with Nakasone, a military officer, if he pushes for additional classified materials to be released.

While it remains to be seen if Trump will ultimately fire Haspel, the elevation of officials like Ellis and Patel has raised concerns that the President is clearing the way to release documents despite previous objections from intelligence leaders.

"The motives of his recent moves at DoD and NSA remain unclear and are of course speculative, although the partisan personnel he put in place certainly suggest that he is stacking the deck, ultimately to win the fight over further declassification of intel related to the 2016 Russian investigation," Marc Polymeropoulos, a former CIA officer who oversaw operations in Europe and Russia before retiring last summer, told CNN.

"If he did the same at CIA, install a new hyper-partisan director who would agree to further declassification efforts, it would not only expose and compromise highly classified sources and methods, but also taint the agency in the eyes of our international partners. Simply put, that puts America at great risk," he added.

House Republicans leading campaign to declassify secret documents

Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee have also pushed the narrative that Haspel is personally preventing certain documents from being released.

Nunes, the panel's top Republican, repeatedly made that claim on Lou Dobbs' Fox Business program last month, while alleging that the "intelligence services in this country have been corrupted by the Democratic national party and their propaganda arm in the media."

Some of the additional intelligence Nunes wants released comes from classified documents based on a report compiled by Republicans on the committee he chaired in 2018, according to a source familiar with the materials.

The House Republican report on the Russia investigation disputes the intelligence community's finding that Russia was trying to help Trump in the 2016 campaign, raising issues about the tradecraft behind the intelligence assessment.

The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee, however, confirmed the intelligence community's assessment in its bipartisan investigation into Russia's 2016 election interference.

Current and former officials have maintained that if there were something revelatory in the documents that remain classified, it would have been included in either the unclassified House or Senate reports and in a way that did not compromise sources and methods.

Yet House Republicans and Trump still believe the information in these secret documents will help validate their criticism of the CIA and FBI's handling of the probe -- raising more questions about whether this is just an attempt to cherry-pick intelligence.

Either way, the documents are so sensitive that they remain under lock and key at CIA headquarters in Langley, according to a source familiar with the matter. House Republicans on the Intelligence Committee stored the materials in a lockbox, which this source compared to a gun safe. The lockbox was then placed in a CIA vault -- prompting some officials to characterize it as a "turducken" or a "safe within a safe." The New York Times first reported on the "turducken."

Republicans on the House panel have long accused the CIA of blocking access to the documents and have encouraged Ratcliffe to declassify the materials despite objections by the CIA and the the National Security Agency, multiple sources told CNN.

In a letter sent to the intelligence community's inspector general last month, Ratcliffe said he has asked that the documents undergo a formal declassification review at the request of Nunes but also has asked the watchdog to review whether the 2017 intelligence community assessment on Russian interference "adhered to proper analytical tradecraft."

At the same time, Republicans on the Senate Homeland Security Committee have accused Haspel of stonewalling their oversight efforts by refusing to produce CIA documents that were requested as part of the panel's own review of the Russia probe.

[Nov 12, 2020] Initiators or Russiagate panicking about the possibility of additional disclosure

Highly recommended!
Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Stonebird , Nov 11 2020 21:22 utc | 78

There is claimed proof. (Examples below and part of McENanay's statement). OK, these will now be followed through. So we will see if they are enough to cause any changes in the final outcome.

In more news, Twitter censored 12 of trumps Tweets today.

The amount of newcomers trying, rather desperately, to decry anything about the voting fraud that may have happened is a sign that a bit of "hot-under-the-collar-desperation is setting in.

The "Intelligence" community is openly calling for a "coup" by VP Pence. They are in the process of really panicking as many of the originators of Russiagate, Pizzagate would face real prison terms if Trump wins. (Brennans statements to the Press) (I would love to add "billsgate" but that would be off topic)

Quote:

"We keep hearing the drumbeat of 'where is the evidence?' Right here, Sean, 234 pages of sworn affidavits, these are real people, real allegations, signed with notaries," McEnany said.

"They're alleging - this is one county, Wayne County, Michigan - they are saying that there was a batch of ballots where 60 percent had the same signature," she told host Sean Hannity.

"They're saying that 35 ballots had no voter record but they were counted anyway, that 50 ballots were run multiple times through a tabulation machine."

There were a lot more.

[Nov 12, 2020] No Surrender! President Trump Should Not Concede -- No Matter What by James Kirkpatrick

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

JAMES KIRKPATRICK NOVEMBER 10, 2020 1,400 WORDS 186 COMMENTS REPLY

The Dem/ Main Stream Media Complex is infuriated that President Donald J. Trump will not concede the 2020 election. This is a Sign of Contradiction that he is doing the right thing. This does not yet mean that Trump won enough votes in key states, as Tucker Carlson has noted, but we also can't say with confidence that Trump lost [ Tucker Carlson Says There's Not Enough Fraud to Change Election Results , by Jacob Jarvis, Newsweek, November 10, 2020]. And here appears to be solid evidence that there was at least some wrongdoing -- far more so than for the Russia Hoax that paralyzed Trump's Administration for three years. The same neoconservatives who are demanding Trump concede would be insisting the U.S, invade another country to "bring democracy" if we saw its government behaving this way. Ultimately, the entire battle is about who is sovereign in this country -- American citizens or the Dem/ MSM complex, including Big Tech oligarchs. They ensured it was not a "free and fair" election, and President Trump should never concede.

Let's consider the almost hysterical fury from the MSM telling us that President Trump has a duty to admit defeat because Biden "won."

What happens if Trump refuses to concede US election now Biden has won , by Joe Middleton, Independent, November 10, 2020 What happens if Trump won't concede , by Richard Hasen, Slate, November 8, 2020 No modern presidential candidate has refused to concede. Here's why that matters . By Amy McKeever, National Geographic, November 8, 2020

And there are countless others.

In fact, of course President Trump isn't doing anything illegal. No one has won or lost. Senate Mitch McConnell may be afraid to defy Trump because he doesn't want to lose the two Senate seats in Georgia and thus, his status as Majority Leader. But he's absolutely right when he says that the Electoral College determines the winner and, until that happens, "anyone who is running for office can exhaust concerns" [ Mitch McConnell says Electoral College will determine 2020 election , by Lisa Mascaro, Fox6 Milwaukee, November 10, 2020]. The Supreme Court case Bush v. Gore that settled the 2000 election didn't come to an end until December 12, 2000. Media outlets "declaring" the winner have no legal significance, especially when their projections seem to be based on polls that have proven to be inaccurate [ Professional pollsters blew it again in 2020. Why? b y Matthew Rozsa, Salon, November 4, 2020].

As of this writing, Arizona, Alaska, Pennsylvania, Georgia are all undecided. North Carolina was just called for Trump (and underwhelming Chamber of Commerce GOP senator Thom Tills managed to win a narrow victory over Democratic challenger Cal Cunningham [ Cal Cunningham concedes to Thom Tills in North Carolina Senate race , by Evie Fordham, Fox News, November 10, 2020]). Joe Biden's lead in Arizona is narrow and shrinking dangerously.

President Trump has a strong legal case in the key state of Pennsylvania, where it appears that the state Supreme Court simply created a new power to count votes that arrived after election day. The U.S. Supreme Court (without Amy Coney Barrett) deadlocked over this, but the Trump campaign will almost certainly take this case to SCOTUS again [ Byron York's Daily Memo: The election lawsuit Trump should win, by Byron York, Washington Examiner, November 10, 2020]. As Senator Ted Cruz has said, there has thus far not been a "comprehensive presentation of evidence" [ Ted Cruz: Trump Election Fraud Allegations Will Be Resolved In Court, Not By Persuading You Or Me , by Tim Hains, RealClearPolitics, November 10, 2020]. Republican leaders in Pennsylvania have already called for a recount "in any counties where state law was broken" [ Senate Co-Sponsorship Memoranda , Pennsylvania State Senate, November 6, 2020].

However, there are more fundamental issues at stake. Thanks to the Sem/ MSM complex's campaign of COVID-19 hysteria, the country engaged in a massive experiment with mail-in voting [ Are We Sure About All Those Mail-in Ballots , by Josh Hammer, The American Mind, November 10, 2020]. Different state requirements add to the confusion. There have been specific claims of outright fraud, notably the inclusion of dead people on the voter rolls, reports that local officials gave voters instructions that would invalidate their ballots, and open theft of ballots [ On Electoral Fraud in 2020 , by Pedro Gonzalez, American Greatness, November 9, 2020]. Critically, in several of the states where President Trump is launching legal challenges, the common factor is a company called Dominion Voting Systems. In one proven case, a "glitch" in its system awarded 6,000 votes to Joe Biden rather than President Trump [ Republicans expand probe into Dominion Voting Systems after Michigan counting snafu , by Zachary Halaschak and Emily Larsen, Washington Examiner, November 8, 2020]. One former Deputy Attorney General for Michigan says counters in Detroit outright provided fraudulent ballots to non-voters [ Ex-Michigan Deputy Attorney General Alleges Detroit Counters Assigned Fraudulent Ballots To Non-Voters , by Kyle Olson, Breitbart, November 9, 2020].

The truth or falsity of these claims must be shown in court. Of course, anti-Trump groups are trying to prevent any legal challenges by individually targeting the law firm that President Trump is using [ Inside the Lincoln Project's new campaign targeting Trump's law firm , by Greg Sargent, Washington Post, November 10, 2020]. No one seems to have considered that such a strategy ensures that most Trump supporters will -- correctly -- consider a Biden Administration utterly illegitimate.

Twitter and other social networking oligopolists are currently putting their thumb on the scale by censoring posts or by claiming there are "election integrity" issues with posts they dislike, even posts by President Trump himself [ Tucker Carlson: Big Tech Took Part in 'One of the Worst Forms of Election Tampering , by Mary Chastain, Legal Insurrection, November 10, 2020].

This control of information both before and after the election renders democracy pointless. If Tech oligarchs can control what the voters see and hear, we might as well put them in charge and dispense with Election Day altogether. It would be simpler and less time consuming than going through a farce where both the exchange of information before an election and tabulating of votes on Election Day itself are apparently too much for the world's sole superpower.

If this is the way the system works, then, as President Trump has been claiming for years, it is "rigged" and illegitimate. If this is how it is going to be, whatever the Regime on the Potomac says in future should be considered as foreign to the Historic American Nation as governments based out of Brussels, Moscow, or Beijing.

Indeed, one can't help but wonder whether the historic American nation would fare better under outright foreign occupation than a hostile elite which considers itself our rulers and treats us with open contempt, if not hatred.

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President Trump and outraged Republicans do have a card to play even if all the legal challenges fail. State legislatures must certify a state's electors before the College can vote for the next president. If state delegations believe the vote has been corrupted, they can send their own competing slate of electors [ Donald Trump's Stealthy Road to Victory , by Graham Allison, National Interest, November 6, 2020].

President Trump also has powers that he can use to change the political environment, especially by destroying hostile institutions and declassifying documents that the Deep State really doesn't want to be made public [ Reflections on the late election , by Curtis Yarvin, Gray Mirror, November 8, 2020].

If a rigged system is going to take President Trump down, he can take it down with him.

Arguably, if President Trump had the will to do something like that, he would not be in this mess. He did not bring Big Tech to heel. He did not ensure that the bureaucracy was filled with people loyal to him. He kept hiring people who were his enemies and then acted surprised when he was rewarded with treachery. He governed like a conventional Republican while talking like a nationalist, the worst of both worlds [ The Tragedy of Trump , by Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, November 16, 2018].

Nonetheless, with his back to the wall, Trump can and should fight. Even now, he has a popular movement behind him -- all he needs to do is lead them against the System that they thought they had defeated in 2016.


The Company , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:16 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

The reason I want to see Trump win is to see if anyone like Brennan or Comey end up in jail. If not then it's proof this is all smoke and mirrors on behalf of the usual suspects.

JimDandy , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:16 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

If a rigged system is going to take President Trump down, he can take it down with him.

Amen, brother!

A123 , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:19 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

A new issue has turned up in Pennsylvania putting another 100,000+ ballots in line for exclusion: (1)

Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out -- an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date.

"Since October 1, the average time of delivery for First-Class Mail, including ballots, was 2.5 days," USPS said in an Oct. 29 release.

Impossible and improbable return dates indicate there's something wrong with either the database or the ballots.

Objective facts show that Trump won Pennsylvania.

-- Will the system work?
-- Or, will the Blue Coup cause the Constitution to collapse?

Biden has no legitimate way to claim victory.

PEACE

AnonFromTN , says: November 11, 2020 at 3:27 pm GMT • 8.2 hours ago

Why should he concede when he won the elections? In fact, Dem crazy policies and senile half-dead nominee resulted in them losing votes. Apparently, they believed their own lies, taking their own psyop "polls" at face value. Massive fraud needed to push their corpse ahead was so crude and ham-handed because it was perpetrated in a hurry. If the fraud stands, the US is kaput. If Trump succeeds in insisting on real results, the US would keep sliding down slowly. Either way, the direction is down, the only difference is the speed.

Sirius , says: November 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT • 7.9 hours ago
@Verymuchalive US elections because you back both horses. It doesn't matter about where the "Jewish" vote goes. It's not about ordinary Jews. It's the Zionist power structure and the big money: Adelson for the Repubs, Saban for the Dems = both bases covered.

Even a not sufficiently Zionist like Bernie Sanders, who is Jewish himself, is blocked because he's not subservient enough to be a minion and horror of horrors, supports a few basic Palestinian human rights and a more balanced policy.

It's easy. They only have to cover 2 bases because there are no viable 3rd parties nor will there ever be under this system, nor is it a direct vote anyway. There will be no change as long as this duopoly persists.

AnonFromTN , says: November 11, 2020 at 3:59 pm GMT • 7.7 hours ago
@EliteCommInc.

I absolutely agree with this author's conclusion, the president should fight.

Absolutely, he won the elections. However, he thinks that the fight is for him, but in reality it is for the American electoral system in particular and the whole political system in general. If this obvious fraud is allowed to stand, the Empire is doomed. If true result is recovered, the slide down would be slow.

nsa , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:05 pm GMT • 7.6 hours ago
@AnonFromTN

If those clever wascally Ds so easily rigged the Prez race for Joey Depends, then why didn't those same clever wascally Ds also rig a few more Senatorial races and capture the Congress?

AnonFromTN , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:24 pm GMT • 6.3 hours ago
@nsa ad to manufacture hundreds of thousands in each swing state. Apparently, the supply of the cheaters was insufficient, and dishonest poll workers were available only in several places (hence the turnout in some places went way above 100%). Sloppy job. Next time they might prepare better. Say, they had more time manufacturing all those mail-in ballots from dead people (naturally, all dead people voted for half-corpse). If mail-in voting remains on the books next time, I expect a lot stronger turnout among the dead.

A single frog is worth more than Joey Depends and Poor Widdle Donnie put together

Now, that is true, but the frog was not on the ballot. It could have won.

[Nov 12, 2020] Recount in 2020 in Florida vs 2020 recount in Pennsylvania by Tucker Carlson

Nov 12, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

The presidential election was on Tuesday and we still don't know the outcome. If you followed the Florida recount 20 years ago, you probably assume you've got some idea of how this will play out.

Officials in contested states will carefully count all the available votes, supervised by bipartisan observers from both campaigns, to reassure all of us it's on the level. If they find irregularities or they see questions of fraud, we'll all get to learn exactly what those allegations are and how they were resolved. That's what we did in 2000. Remember hanging chads? We put them on TV so people could see the ballots for themselves.

In the end, the dispute between Al Gore and George W. Bush continued all the way to the Supreme Court. It took 36 days to resolve and every one of those days, if you remember them, seemed like a month. That process was excruciating, it required patience and calm, but in the end, it was well worth it.

For the record, the news organizations in this country covered every moment of it. No one in any newsroom in America even considered censoring information about what was happening. That would have been regarded as grotesque and immoral. Then, as now, almost everyone in the media was a partisan Democrat. But in 2000, they understood that preserving the public's faith in the system was more important than getting Al Gore or anyone else into the White House. So they pushed for openness and transparency in the process, and thank God they did.

A lot has changed over two decades. It's entirely possible now that someday soon the news media will decide to shut this election down. Believe it or not, they effectively have the power to do that. Let's say officials in Philadelphia produce a large number of newly counted votes. The Pennsylvania secretary of state hastily ratifies them, puts a seal of approval on them and then declares Joe Biden the winner.

Winning Pennsylvania would put Joe Biden over the threshold of 270 electoral votes, so Joe Biden is now the president-elect. But how many of the 69 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump this week would believe that and accept it at this point? Not very many. Not that anyone cares, and of course, the fact that no one cares is the reason they voted for Donald Trump in the first place.

[Nov 12, 2020] Frankly, I was never a fan of Trump. However, seeing how globalist media seethe with rage against him and drip venom, I know that he is doing something good.

Notable quotes:
"... In my view, the greatest Trump accomplishment is that in four years he did not start a single war. Now, let's compare that to Obama/Biden accomplishments: destroyed Libya, destroyed Ukraine, and illegally sent troops to Syria. The difference is stark. ..."
"... BTW, the bulk of COVID deaths happened in Dem-controlled cities. Not to mention riots by Antifa/BLM bandits, which Dems openly approved of. ..."
Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

AnonFromTN , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:48 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Frankly, I was never a fan of Trump. However, seeing how globalist media seethe with rage against him and drip venom, I know that he is doing something good. Now I know why the scum hated him so much. He does not play be their scenario, does not give in to fraud. Warts and all, he is certainly better than corrupt senile nonentity and shameless scum pushing that half-dead stuffed shirt forward.

Realist , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:51 pm GMT • 4.8 hours ago
@Anon

Does it bother anyone at all that Joe Biden is implicated in taking money from communist China through his drugged out son Hunter?

Hell no! If it bothered anyone we wouldn't be in the shit we're in. What is of interest to Americans is who is that Masked Singer , who will win the Super Bowl and other inane bullshit.

Realist , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:23 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@DanFromCT

Election or no election, we've reached and gone past the point where communication with the Left and Dems is pointless.

This has nothing to do with the Democrats or Republicans they are two sides of the Deep State coin heads they win, tails you lose. Democracy in this country has been a sham for decades.

follyofwar , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:53 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago
@Zarathustra

I would not be surprised if the military high command has become fractured. I've read from several sources that the generals, most of whom are wedded to the MIC globalists, never like Trump in the first place, and have surreptitiously worked against him. But the colonels and below are largely loyal to their commander-in-chief. Certainly most of the enlisted men are.

I wonder if Trump's recent firing of Mark Esper has deepened the divide? In any case, Zarathustra, do you have any evidence that what you say is true?

Sirius , says: November 11, 2020 at 8:05 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago
@Harold Smith emely hard to resist. Maybe Trump did resist it and I can see many of his supporters are his supporters for that perceived war resistance, but I still highly doubt it. He may have resisted precisely because he knew his supporters were fed up with foreign adventurism. His statements and actions though were much more belligerent.

The assassination of Suleimani was an act of war and very nearly led to a real full-time shooting one, for example. It turned out to be a quick battle but it was really a close call.

We'll see how historically pro-war Biden turns out. I very much want to be optimistic, but the anti-interventionist candidates are always blocked out early in the process. They never come close.

Harold Smith , says: November 11, 2020 at 9:40 pm GMT • 2.0 hours ago
@AnonFromTN /wp-content/uploads/2019/08/TheDogAndTheManAreWorkingTogether.jpg">the dog and the man are working together

Trump's single-handed trashing of the framework of nuclear arms control and apparent intent to deploy intermediate range nuclear missiles near Russian and Chinese borders – is an heinous crime against humanity.

This reckless, anti-American act of infamy by Trump is "deep state" foreign policy on steroids; there's no other way to characterize it. Other than actually "pushing the button" itself, what greater crime against America and the world could a president do? By this one inexcusable act alone, Trump has completely delegitimized himself.

I don't know how you can't see and appreciate this.

AnonFromTN , says: November 11, 2020 at 10:46 pm GMT • 54 minutes ago
@Harold Smith to mention that corrupt senile Dem nominee is an affront to all sane people in the US. Under that half-dead stuffed shirt the worst will come forward, from brinkmanship we might slide into actual nuclear war. Judging by how late Dems started their election fraud (the night after Nov 3), they apparently are dumb enough to believe their own lies. That's a very dangerous sign. Not to mention that Dems massive election fraud undermines the US more than Bin Laden or Saddam could even dream of.

So, we had a choice between two bad scenarios. Considering that virtually all US wars were started by Dems, and that Trump did not start a single one in four years, even Trump is preferable to what Dem puppet masters have in store for us.

AnonFromTN , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:12 pm GMT • 28 minutes ago
@Incitatus In my view, the greatest Trump accomplishment is that in four years he did not start a single war. Now, let's compare that to Obama/Biden accomplishments: destroyed Libya, destroyed Ukraine, and illegally sent troops to Syria. The difference is stark.

I know that Biden was not senile back then, just corrupt (e.g., the Ukrainian saga with his junky son dishonorably discharged from the US military getting ~$50,000 a month at Burisma). So, out of two turds I'd choose the least smelly one. Massive electoral fraud of Biden puppet masters is a cherry on the cake.

BTW, the bulk of COVID deaths happened in Dem-controlled cities. Not to mention riots by Antifa/BLM bandits, which Dems openly approved of.

[Nov 12, 2020] Going forward the GOP needs to push hard for a Voting Integrity Act that mandates all voter registration must be approved by social security office to verify citizenship status.

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:50 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago

I think Tucker Carlson is wrong. I believe there are enough fraudulent votes to change the result -- if the recount is done honestly. WI, MI, GA, PA could all flip, even AZ and NV. The DNC is run by End Justifies Means people who believe everything they do is justified due to Holocaust, Slavery, yada yada.

MSM is working hard to try to make this a foregone conclusion. Each day we hear about Biden this Biden that, Biden's Transition Team, Biden's New Cabinet, Biden's Foreign Policy, Biden's Trade policy Instead of feeling discouraged, I hope this actually gets Trump and his lawyers fired up to push for recounts. He just filed a new lawsuit in MI. There is no reason why the recounts have not started in WI, GA and PA. It's total BS. The longer this drags on, the harder it'll be to overturn the results. They need to press on.

Going forward the GOP needs to push hard for a Voting Integrity Act that mandates all voter registration must be approved by social security office to verify citizenship status. I suspect a high number of voters esp. in blue states like CA and WA are non-citizens, from tens of thousands to millions, since the DMV asks everyone to register to vote and never check their citizenship status. In WA the ballot used to ask people to confirm they are US citizens before signing the ballot with indication of fines/jail time for non-citizens who vote, but they've removed that warning entirely in all ballots since 2016.

The Voting Integrity Act should include a mass audit of the voter registration in every state, with a national database that detects people who are registered to vote in more than one state. Even if Trump doesn't prevail due to mass cheating in the recounts, the GOP needs to put this Voting Integrity Act in place or they will never win another election.

[Nov 12, 2020] Here's One Report on Dominion Vote Flipping

Giuliani has an Outstanding Reputation as a Federal Prosecutor
Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
IronForge , Nov 11 2020 21:54 utc | 91

Here's One Report on Dominion Vote Flipping.
https://www.minds.com/media/1172915702746034176

Also, Mayor Giuliani has claimed mamy Cases of Fraud and is Filing Lawsuits as Trump's Lawyer.

Also, Tucker Carlson has also claimed that his Team have verified a good number of Reported Incidents.

Statistical Analyses Claimants are coming forward as well.

Those who claim that there were none or not enough - including you, B - need to read around a bit more and wait before making presumptive assessments when we don't have All the Claim Cases, related Data, and Votes Affected.

Personally, I've seen enough to believe this Election is Compromised. Dominion are allegedly vested by the Pelosis (which alone raise a few Red Flags for a RICO Investigation).

It may be Prudent to Not only Hold Audits; but Redo the Federal Election Seats (WH and Congress) again with Federal Ballots Monitored by Federal Personnel.

Biden should have been sent to Bethesda/Walter Reed/Hopkins for an Alzheimer's/Dementia Review Panel (put my Own Mother through the Drill every several years prior to her going to her Nursing Home); and Hunter should have been Arrested for Crack/Child Molestation while being further investigated for MoneyLaundering/RICO with Pops.

Giuliani is Confident Here As Well. One thing for Certain, B, is that Giuliani has an Outstanding Reputation as a Federal Prosecutor; and Does. Not. Bπ££$#!+. Around. When it comes to Criminal Cases.

I'll rely on Giuliani's Assessments more than anyone else's on this Matter.

V/r,

[Nov 12, 2020] Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out -- an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date

Look either way the Banker Oligarchs win. Why fight over the scraps, neither one party or leader represents the little guy (defined these days as those with less than 100m USD in assets).
Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

A123 , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:19 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

A new issue has turned up in Pennsylvania putting another 100,000+ ballots in line for exclusion: (1)

Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out -- an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date.

"Since October 1, the average time of delivery for First-Class Mail, including ballots, was 2.5 days," USPS said in an Oct. 29 release.

Impossible and improbable return dates indicate there's something wrong with either the database or the ballots.

Objective facts show that Trump won Pennsylvania.

-- Will the system work?
-- Or, will the Blue Coup cause the Constitution to collapse?

Biden has no legitimate way to claim victory.

PEACE

shylockcracy , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:50 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

In today's episode of America's Next Zionist President, we have an insider giving us all an accurate description of our beloved US constitutional republic and democracy which we must fight to protect:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qfrhATD4nM0?feature=oembed

JimDandy , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:52 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Max Boot, Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, Jake Tapper, et al. are so confused right now.

Roacheforque , says: Website November 11, 2020 at 5:55 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

For rational people, the media's outlandish bias and presumptive misinformation will not end well for their handlers. True, in a fake new soylent green economy, businesses don't need customers and politicians don't need constituents – you can just manufacture them, and pay yourself with your own money by decree. But reality has a way of eventually creeping in (as you gag on your fake beyond meat burger).

The reality here is that we need to take a step back from the media frenzy and recognize rule of law. Concession cannot even be legally possible for several weeks as it stands today. And the only excuse for Biden falsely claiming victory is that he is too senile to observe Constitutional law.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-11-09/us-presidential-election-not-over-heres-where-things-stand-right-now

Clay Alexander , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:24 am GMT • 17.3 hours ago

The Don is done. Lindsey and Mitch and their Dem co-conspirators will be thrilled to get back to business as usual. Motives aside he did change things a bit in between hiring and firing everyone in sight.

To much of a rocky ride Washington doesn't like that no criminal enterprise does.

Don't cry for Don he'll bounce back this is a man who lost three casinos then went on to hawking steaks and finally ended up as President. A real life 21st. century Jack Armstrong. He can write a book play some golf, Melania can go on doing her Eva Gabor impersonation and Don Jr. and Eric can do whatever it is they do. And as for us we're all on a slow boat to China most likely to work at one of those Sino-Ivanka Fashion Inc. factories.

MorningStar , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:15 am GMT • 16.4 hours ago

Big Brother has spoken. Even Fox News has kicked Trump's ass into the shithole and called the election for Biden. Tucker Carlson may also be looking for the exit or he has been instructed to change his tune if he wants to keep his job which in all likelihood he will comply. Trump lovers and sympathisers better face up to the bitter reality and take to the hill to prepare a defense against brutal persecution by their enemies who will come after them with unimaginable passion right after Jan 20, 2021. They already have THE LIST and names are being added to it fast and furious. Bread and circus, people!

Justsaying , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:20 am GMT • 16.3 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Come on, get real. American voters were presented with two donkeys and puppets of Israel as candidates. Millions voted for one or the other of two donkeys both of whom dance to the beat of Jewish drums. Come to think about it, which American president in recent memory has not outfawned his predecessor on Israel? Jewish power owns us. End of.

Meimou , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:32 am GMT • 16.1 hours ago

@All trumpers

This fiasco is scripted....

Ray Caruso , says: November 11, 2020 at 8:53 am GMT • 14.8 hours ago

Tucker Carlson said, " At this stage , the fraud that we can confirm does not seem to be enough to alter the election result." That's a far cry from, "There's not enough fraud to change the election results." Newsweek's paraphrasing is, therefore, itself fraudulent and part of the gigantic Democrat gaslighting campaign to convince the nation Joe Biden is the legitimate winner. It should not be repeated here without the actual quote and a caveat.

This also goes to the wider issue of trying to be reasonable and fair when dealing with Democrat cockroaches who are anything but. They will unfailingly distort measured and diplomatic language. It's best to make no concessions to them.

gotmituns , says: November 11, 2020 at 9:38 am GMT • 14.0 hours ago

I don't give a rat's butt about trump or biden. As far as I'm concerned they'll always be two draft dodger/shirkers and nothing more. Interesting how both of them hid in college in the 60's and refused to serve as privates in the army but think they should be able to have the power to send men in harms way.

Verymuchalive , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:06 am GMT • 12.6 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Actually, the Zionists and the Jewish vote generally were overwhelmingly for Biden. They were very hostile to Trump. Why would they do this if Trump were a Zionist minion ? Because he's not.

Trump wants to normalise relations with Russia and pull US troops out of the Middle East, including Syria. These moves are very much opposed to Zionist aims and the interests of Israel. Unsurprisingly, Netanyahu was very quick to recognise Biden as the winner. That's because Biden really is a Zionist minion.

Timur The Lame , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:16 am GMT • 12.4 hours ago
@Roacheforque every TDS normie discussed it like it had a real chance of occurring despite not having thought out how exactly how such a ridiculous event would take place on a practical level. Added to which the 'homey' comments coming from diaper Bill and Kameltoe Harris have a overly saccharine flavour to them, more likely scripted with great thought put in as opposed to spontaneous quotes from some gosh darn nice people who want to heal the nation such that anyone trying to prevent them from doing so necessarily must be evil.

If the Zerohedge article is accurate, thank you for posting it. If it has weaknesses perhaps some poster could point them out. It is the most sane thing that I have read on the topic since the 3rd.

Cheers-

Tommy Thompson , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:24 am GMT • 12.3 hours ago

No Surrender! President Trump Should Not Concede -- No Matter What

Sure just like Hillary should not have conceded in 2016, when they had strong evidence of electronic vote rigging.

Look either way the Banker Oligarchs win. Why fight over the scraps, neither one party or leader represents the little guy (defined these days as those with less than 100m USD in assets).

The Zio Banking elite wins hands down right now Biden or Trump. At least Biden might keep some social services like Soc Sec, Medicare, and Obama Care!!!! Yes the public deserves to get something for paying all these taxes not just the Oligarchial super rich who were openly looting the Fed budget under Trump. The unthinking and unemployed working/middle class, especially the Whites amongst them seem to put their crisis of identity ahead of their well being. Daaah.

What did Trump (led by his handlers Kushner/Ivanka) do for the little guy except fill their heads with racial antagonisms and anti-government innuendo (some true but most false). For sure he fulfilled every Zio-Israeli fantasy at the expense of US interests. Yes, no problem for the unquestioning MAGA types, but where did he lead America to, to the precipice of a pending national disaster?

So stop tearing down the constitutional republic, preserve what the general public still has left to protect their individual rights and economic well being. Obviously the elite is pushing for civil unrest so they can bring on a military and dictatorial regime, where all sorts of new control straps can be implemented.

Kirkpatrick you are shameful for stoking the embers of civil unrest! Nobody is calling for unity and statesmen like leadership these days on RU report. Biden is looking much more leader like than cry baby Trump. Trump as you like to say -- -- -- -- – YOUR FIRED!!!!! Man-up and get out and move on and get a life.

Only idiots and fools still want to carry Fake and Slimy Politicians on top of their shoulders. Find some brains and lobby for your own interests, no politician in this system will work for you unless forced to by their electorate.

GeeBee , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:35 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago

[Reflections on the late election, by Curtis Yarvin, Gray Mirror, November 8, 2020].

Because I began my journey to 'red-pilled' awareness thanks to Curtis 'Mencius Moldbug' Yarvin, I naturally clicked on the link and read his piece. One has travelled far since reading his 'Unqualified Reservations' blog way back on 2007-08, and I now agree with much of Andrew Joyce's recent critique of Yarvin ( https://www.unz.com/article/jews-in-the-cathedral-a-response-to-curtis-yarvin/ )

However, I frequently chuckled while reading Yarvin's piece linked by James Kirkpatrick, and marvelled anew at the quality and brilliance of his insights. In this regard it rather took me back in time twelve or so years.

A sample or two:

After describing how Trump could legally take full and absolute personal power for the length of his second term, Yarvin points out that what is required amounts to nothing less than 'regime change', and states that 'A true regime change must be a revolution in every sense of the word Of course, since the right is order and the left is chaos, the left-wing revolution is a butcher and the right-wing revolution is a surgeon. If ours needs to keep its bandages on for a few days, theirs can barely be sold as hamburger. And even before her stitches are out, America feels and looks better than ever.'

He goes on:

'One lesson that should be appreciated by all sides in all civic conflicts is that force is not another word for violence. Force is the opposite of violence. Violence is bad, and force is good. Violence is chaos, and force is order. Violence is slow and force is fast.

'If you can win by force, what are you waiting for? Do it immediately. If you can't win without violence, you probably can't win at all, and you probably shouldn't try. Much bloodshed could be saved if all young persons were educated with these simple and timeless Machiavellian principles'.

And earlier, he explains the role of elections in a 'democracy' as being to assess the power of each side's support, and that this power ought to reflect actual physical strength and or courage, remarking:

'The fundamental purpose of a democratic election is to test the strength of the sides in a civil conflict, without anyone actually getting hurt. The majority wins because the strongest side would win. Better to measure that by counting heads, than knocking heads; and counting heads produces a reasonable guess as to who would win a head-knocking contest. Same outcome, fewer concussions: a Pareto optimization.

'But this guess is much better if it actually measures humans who are both willing and able to walk down the street and show up. Anyone who cannot show up at the booth is unlikely to show up for the civil war. This is one of many reasons that an in-person election is a more accurate election. (If voters could be qualified by physique, it would be even more accurate.)

'My sense is that in many urban communities, voting by proxy in some sense is the norm. The people whose names are on the ballots really exist; and almost all of them actually did support China Joe. Or at least, preferred him. The extent to which they perform any tangible political action, including physically going to the booth, is very low; so is their engagement with the political system. The demand for records of their engagement is very high, because each such datum cancels out some huge, heavily-armed redneck with a bass boat.'

Great stuff!

God's Fool , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:40 am GMT • 12.0 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Even with the gift of Jerusalem they're out to get him you simply can't trust them!

Emslander , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:44 am GMT • 11.9 hours ago

He governed like a conventional Republican while talking like a nationalist, the worst of both worlds

Precisely. Still, Biden didn't win. Time for it all to come down anyway, if only because of the financial collapse looming.

Emslander , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:46 am GMT • 11.9 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Your obsession with Jews is really misplaced here. As soon as anyone starts blaming the Jews, that person has immediately branded himself unfit for further comment.

potemkin villiage bank , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:09 pm GMT • 11.5 hours ago

The purpose of Main Scream Media fake polls

was

to disguise massive ballot rigging on the day of the zombie apocalypse election

Had it not been for President Trumps massive rallies in Pennsylvania the stitch up might have worked

The demobrats wish to turn the USA into a soddem and gomocracy with male in voting for themasses

AKINDLE , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT • 11.3 hours ago

Trump had four years to do something about election fraud. Didn't do a thing. Kinda funny Trump and those Senator Georgians that sucked up to blacks thought blacks would actually vote for them. Georgia and trump lost! Maybe taught them a lesson! I doubt it. Georgia has been overrun with Hispanics and absolutely flooded with H-1B Indians for years too . The GOP has committed suicide and taken the rest of America down with it. But hey, they made a few bucks doing it! Maybe trump can do another publicity stunt with a rapper to save his campaign.

Katrinka , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:33 pm GMT • 11.1 hours ago

The problems with the election are just a mirror image of the problems with this country. Fake money, fake border, fake pandemic, fake scholarship, fake news, fake food, fake votes. Did I miss anything?

sally , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:41 pm GMT • 11.0 hours ago
@TheTrumanShow ll decide. and failing that, the congress shall decide.. If a candidate interferes with that constitutional process, changes or alters it to suit a personal circumstance, he or she invites the crowd operated guillotine, i fear.

I agree the election process in many states is subject to corruption.. but Trump had four years to change that process. like most things he did not provide the leadership needed to get the masses to help him do just that.. Now Trump complains ..to the very people who expected more from him .. and seeks to circumvent their intentions. I hope not?

I learned long ago: the pilot that does not pay the mechanic, pays the undertaker, when the engine quits at 15000 feet.

Adrian , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:44 pm GMT • 10.9 hours ago

I am an Australian living in an Australian country town. My email address is recognisably Australian. I have never lived in the US. I have never even been there in fact.

Yet I have been inundated with election propaganda from the Democrats (from the other side nary a peep).

Recently an organisation that goes under the name "Fight for Reform"invited me, as a "Top Democrat in your state", to sign a card to congratulate "Joe and Kamala" testyifying that I too had been crying "tears of joy" about their election.

When I didn't react I was asked, virtually the day after, why I hadn't done so. They were "running low on support from"registered Democrats" "so please

Jake , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:59 pm GMT • 10.7 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Well, if you think that Biden and Harris will serve Israel any less than Trump, then you should be willing to purchase my Jewless estate of 500,000 acres in NY, which comes with 6000 square foot fully restored 19th century house, a 2500 square foot guest house, and a horse barn. It also comes with both a real pond and a ce- ment pond. I'm asking only $600,000. It's a steal of a bargain.

Frankie P , says: November 11, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@Emslander

In other words, according to you, the Jews as individuals, organizations, or as a people may never be blamed for anything. Methinks it is YOU wearing the brand that says "unfit for further comment".

geokat62 , says: November 11, 2020 at 2:16 pm GMT • 9.4 hours ago

Ultimately, the entire battle is about who is sovereign in this country -- American citizens or

LOL! I haven't seen the words "sovereignty" and "American people" in the same sentence for quite some time. Unfortunately, this phenomenon is not simply restricted to American people, as it applies to all peoples of the West.

We must muster the will to shift this balance of power.

Old and Grumpy , says: November 11, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT • 8.7 hours ago
@The Oracle class="comment-text">

Whining about jail time over tax laws is why Trump has to fight? He can tell us deplorables it is for us. Its not. It will be about preserving his empire. As much as I want the corrupt PA democrats to finally get theirs in this legal process, I support Trump in his fight for himself. If you twerps are allowed to destroy someone like a President Trump, just imagine what you will do to a mere lunch lady for using the wrong pronoun. Please for once in your miserable life admit your side is not made up of good people but rather a whole bunch of totalitarian dictatorial wannabes. Scarily you keep moving the goalposts of your endgame because every victory is never enough to satiate the rumble in your hollow souls.

[Nov 12, 2020] Caitlin Johnstone- Americans didn't vote against Trump, they voted against more media psychological abuse by Caitlin Johnstone

Highly recommended!
Nov 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

By Caitlin Johnstone , an independent journalist based in Melbourne, Australia. Her website is here and you can follow her on Twitter @caitoz

'Trump derangement syndrome' didn't come from Trump. It came from abusive media trying to spin the evils of his presidency as somehow worse than any other US president's.

The word "coup" is being thrown about in American liberal media today, not because US liberals suddenly became uncomfortable with the fact that their nation constantly stages coups and topples governments around the world as a matter of routine policy, but because they are all talking about (you guessed it) Donald Trump.

To be clear, none of the high-powered influencers who have been promoting the use of this word actually believe there is any possibility that Donald Trump will somehow remain in office after January of next year when he loses his legal appeals against the official results of the election, which would be the thing that a coup is. There is no means or institutional support through which the sitting president could accomplish such a thing. This is not a coup, it's a glorified temper tantrum. Trump will leave office at the appointed time.

The establishment narrative managers are not terrifying their audiences with this word because they believe there is any danger of a coup actually happening. They are doing it because it's their last chance to use Trump to psychologically abuse their audiences for clicks.

... ... ...

It is not Trump himself who's been making people feel terrified of a tyrannical Russian agent ending democracy in America and ruling with an iron fist, it is years of shrieking, hysterical coverage about Trump from the mass media.

//www.youtube.com/embed/kgBxfHdb4OU

Without all the deranged and persistent fearmongering, driven by a disdain for Trump's unrefined narrative management style and an insatiable hunger for ratings and clicks, it would never have occurred to Americans that they should be more terrified of this president than of any other sh***y Reaganite Republican. The Russian collusion narrative which dominated most of Trump's presidency turned out tobe essentially nothing . The concentration camps, millions of deportations and armed militias driving non-whites out of the country that we were promised never came; he never even came anywhere close to Obama's deportation numbers and his support from minorities actually went up. He hasn't been any more warlike than his predecessors overall, and by some measures arguably less so. Most Americans actually reported that their lives had improved over Trump's term before the pandemic hit.

If people had just been given raw information about Trump's presidency, they would have seen a lot of bad things, but things that are bad in the same way all the horrible aspects of the most destructive government on earth are bad. They wouldn't have known to be horrified and anxious and have headaches and irritable bowel syndrome. They would have handled themselves in about the same way they always handled themselves during the administration of a president they didn't like.

Instead, they were psychologically terrorized. Made frightened, sick and traumatized by mass media pundits who only care about ratings and clicks, as was made clear when CBS chief Les Moonves famously said that Trump is bad for America but great for CBS. Dragged through years of Russia hysteria and Trump hysteria with any excuse to spin Trump's presidency as a remarkable departure from norms, when in reality it was anything but. It was a fairly conventional Republican presidency.

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In reality, though most of them probably did not realize it, this is what Americans were actually voting against when they turned out in record numbers to cast their votes. Not against Trump, but against this continued psychological abuse they've been suffering both directly and indirectly from the mass media. Against being bashed in the face by shrieking, hysterical bull***t that hurts their bodies and makes them feel crazy, and against the unpleasantness of having to interact with stressed-out compatriots who haven't been putting up well with the abuse.

It wasn't a "Get him out" vote, it was a "Make it stop" vote.

Meanwhile, another pernicious effect of making Trump seem uniquely horrible has been retroactively making his predecessors seem nice by comparison, which is why George W Bush now enjoys majority support among Democrats after years of unpopularity. Their depravity is hidden behind a media-generated wall labeled "NOT TRUMP" . And when Biden steps into office, his depravity will be hidden from view in the same way, neutering all mainstream opposition to his most deadly and dangerous actions .


The First Rule , 5 hours ago

I certainly hope this isn't True. You should never surrender to Evil.

And the MSM in America is Pure Evil.

(except Tucker Carlson)

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Oh, and this is what you missed when you went to Bed Election Night

(Apparently the same thing happened in MI, WI and possibly GA):

PA Vote Flip (at :04 and then at :36):

https://t.co/nTGpOtHA8N

KY Vote Flip (from Gov Race Last Year - Detailed Explanation of what is happening):

SMOKING GUN: ELECTRONIC VOTE FRAUD CAUGHT LIVE ON CNN! #TheHammer #Scorecard (bitchute.com)

Macho Latte , 5 hours ago

It's the politics of HATE

Too many people succumb to the psychological warfare that has been raging against us for 5 decades. It is very difficult to break free from the indoctrination regardless of intelligence or education. The backbone of the DemonRat organization is a very strong emotion that overcomes all logic and reason. It is HATE. Today it is called by the gentle name of Identity Politics. Nevertheless, it is still a HATE based psychological manipulation. Women need to HATE men. Blacks need to HATE everyone. Whites need to HATE themselves. Everybody needs to HATE Trump.

Did anybody vote FOR Biden or Harris?

The DemonRats have the Deep State covering, aiding and abetting their insurrection. As we have seen, the stupid white people support the peaceful protests and are played like a violin by the professional agitators likely trained by the CIA & FBI. The BLM aristocracy claims to be "trained Marxists". Trained by whom? Nobody asks.

The cops are used like trained dogs to attack everyone who opposes the BLM/Antifa sanctioned riots to the point where citizens are afraid of the cops and the BLM/Antifa people use the cops for target practice, and the cops just take it. Nobody really respects the FBI or the cops anymore.

Then there is the constant 24/7 drum beat of propaganda from the MSM and social media driving people crazy.

Welcome to the world of Kamala Pelosi.

With Trump gone, who will they hate next?

DemonRats: The Party of Lies & HATE


Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.
- Orwell

archon , 2 hours ago

Every time Maddow speaks she reminds me that we're living in clownworld. Lets not forget this is coming from people who spent the last four years attempting their own coup.

cankles' server , 4 hours ago

I'm not sure if twitter deleted but here's the youtube link

Screencap 1

Screencap 2

This shows a vote switch of 19,958 votes deducted from Trump and added to Biden.

Video explaining electronic election fraud.

[Nov 12, 2020] Fox News was always the controlled opposition for the deep state.

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Old and Grumpy , says: November 11, 2020 at 3:04 pm GMT • 8.6 hours ago

@Priss Factor

Rubert's media empire was just a stepping stone for gigs like a sitting board of director with Genie Oil. Even with that Fox News has always been neocon. If most conservative types weren't enamored with supporting the troops, who will be just like the cops in supporting the establishment in any civil war, then they would have known Fox News was controlled opposition for the deep state.

A123 , says: November 11, 2020 at 3:07 pm GMT • 8.6 hours ago
@Priss Factor

Fox News is now Fix News.

Rupert Murdoch's heirs are #NeverTrump Libtards. They have been systematically installing SJW Globalists for some time. The day-to-day programming has flipped to Fake Stream Media propaganda. It is no surprise that they went full TDS for election coverage.

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Katrinka , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago
@A123

https://www.klowdtv.com/package.ktv?package=freeoannTrump

The above link will provide you with a FREE KlowdTV subscription to OAN and eleven other channels for the remainder of 2020. Easy to do, two quick steps. DUMP FOX! Pass it on.

[Nov 12, 2020] Tucker Carlson may also be looking for the exit or he has been instructed to change his tune if he wants to keep his job which in all likelihood he will comply.

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Realist , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:39 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago

@MorningStar

Tucker Carlson may also be looking for the exit or he has been instructed to change his tune if he wants to keep his job which in all likelihood he will comply.

Yes, Carlson's program last night was decidedly more milquetoast than the night before. His choice of topics was much more mundane. Perhaps he has gotten the word.

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 11, 2020 at 9:51 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago

Tucker Carlson is toeing the Fox editorial line by claiming not enough fraudulent votes to change the outcome. The only question is how was he coerced into making this statement -- was it the carrot or the stick? Both? The stick would be he gets fired from Fox. The carrot would be he gets major pay raise, promotion, or even getting help set up as front runner for 2024.

TC is no longer to be trusted. I have felt that about him for some time as his website Daily Caller started toeing the Zionist line with increasing hostility towards China this past year. He's now just controlled opposition like Stephen Miller, Breitbart.

Wally , says: November 11, 2020 at 10:15 pm GMT • 1.4 hours ago
@The Company

Note that Carlson did NOT say, as the article falsely states, "Tucker Carlson Says There's Not Enough Fraud to Change Election Results", he said:

At this stage, the fraud that we can confirm does not seem to be enough to alter the election result . We should be honest and tell you that. Of course, that could change," he said, on his Fox News show Tucker Carlson Tonight.

I believe Carlson will spotlight the fraud claims on his program tonight.

[Nov 12, 2020] Dem Party and Catholic church: both deny the crimes, and just continue doing it till they can't anymore

Nov 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Chimesickle , 1 hour ago

The Democratic party reminds me of the Catholic church covering up child sex abusers. They deny the crimes, but just continue doing it till they cant anymore

[Nov 12, 2020] A telling coincidence: the same people who congratulated Biden, congratulated Juan Guaid , as President of Venezuela

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Ghali , says: November 11, 2020 at 8:11 am GMT • 15.5 hours ago

One more thing. Remember those US vassal states (Europeans and others US stooges) that congratulated Juan Guaidó, as President of Venezuela (with Zilch support from the people of Venezuela), they are congratulating Biden.

Call it "Western Democracy", but never Democracy.

[Nov 12, 2020] This 'election' seems to have unleashed an army of Dem Party Zombies

Which would be only natural because neoliberalism entered zombies state in 2008
Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

blues , Nov 11 2020 21:44 utc | 88

This 'election' seems to have unleashed an army of Dem Party Zombies. Of course the whole 'election' was filled with fake votes. It's plain as day. Watching these insane Dem Party Zombies is disturbing to normal people. Both of the 'parties' obviously suck big time. I would tell the Zombies to get real, but it's pointless.

I fought against voting 'machines' for years. I can see what is going on. Millions of people are actually zombies.

[Nov 12, 2020] A modest proposal: if he really wants to heal the nation Biden could simple announce that his first action as president will be a full investigation of any alleged voter fraud and that he would - of course - immediately step down should the investigation find that he has no majority.

Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

m , Nov 11 2020 18:00 utc | 3

Or Biden could simple announce that his first action as president will be a full investigation of any alleged voter fraud and that he would - of course - immediately step down should the investigation find that he has no majority. And then actually do an honest investigation.

Democracy can be such an easy thing.

Steve , Nov 11 2020 18:08 utc | 5

Of course that is fantasy. But I'm sure happy that Trump is opening up the fallacy of the American system to the whole world. ...

[Nov 12, 2020] Which groups of the USA elite played major role in 2020 elections

Notable quotes:
"... The grouping is thus; 1) Coastal Elites/Wall Street/City of London/Private Banking/Atlantacism/Libertarian Free Market Economics aka finance capitalism ..."
"... The middle of America is land power, and is opposed to Atlantacism, rim theory, blue water navy power projection, importation of third world people, and export of jobs and factories. ..."
Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Mefobills says: November 11, 2020 at 4:30 pm GMT • 7.2 hours ago 300 Words

Indeed, one can't help but wonder whether the historic American nation would fare better under outright foreign occupation than a hostile elite which considers itself our rulers and treats us with open contempt, if not hatred.

Russia or China would not flood the historic American nation with "third world people" in order to chase after a dollar. A good argument could be made that China or Russia would be a better government for Heartland America than the "international" coastal elites.

The coastal elites are wedded to finance capitalism. This group of people want a thin veneer of Oligarchs (themselves) controlling a mixed race, or brown population in their factories. Finance Capital wants to make illicit gains. Finance capital could care less about improving labor ability of the native population.

The grouping is thus; 1) Coastal Elites/Wall Street/City of London/Private Banking/Atlantacism/Libertarian Free Market Economics aka finance capitalism . (In short, the coastal elites are for an "international world order" with them in charge, with them making their finance nut with usury, rents, and unearned income. Lying and cheating is ok, because only money matters. Their capital is fungible, meaning it can fly anywhere in the world to make gains, and to them labor has legs and is also fungible, to then lower prices – to make gains.)

Land Powers, such as China and Russia are not "international" in their thinking. Although they do some power projection into blue water as a form of defense. They are interested in improving their sovereign population.

The middle of America is land power, and is opposed to Atlantacism, rim theory, blue water navy power projection, importation of third world people, and export of jobs and factories.

The American system of economy of the founders was the first industrial capitalism, and the "credit of the nation" went toward infrastructure, public health, and improving the commons.

The Jew and English finance capitalism method, first combined together in 1694, and has always been at war with heartland America. The parasite is dug in deep.

[Nov 11, 2020] Who decided the USA Presidential elections

Fro, comments ItsMeThrill @ThrillIts Replying to @DonaldJTrumpJr "Bloomberg can't buy everything!"
Nov 11, 2020 | twitter.com

Dan Bongino @dbongino Nov 10

Can someone please send me the section of the Constitution where the media selects the POTUS? Thanks! I still can't find it.

[Nov 11, 2020] The news riles of election etiquette introduced by Her Royal Highness Hillary Rodham Clinton

Notable quotes:
"... Thus, Trump has every right, indeed, the obligation to pursue this to the very end. If he does still lose, he must spend the next four years demonizing the Biden Administration. ..."
Nov 11, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

ambrit , November 10, 2020 at 4:14 pm

Oh, really?

Just remember Bush vs Gore 2000.

Back then, the vote totals were "incomplete," but the Supreme Court decided the contest anyway.

Thus, Trump has every right, indeed, the obligation to pursue this to the very end. If he does still lose, he must spend the next four years demonizing the Biden Administration.

That 'new' rule is courtesy of Her Royal Highness Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Sauce for differently gendered flying fowl and all.

[Nov 11, 2020] Dems in 2016 vs Dems in 2020

Nov 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

aliens is here , 2 hours ago

Dems in 2016: We don't need evidence to show Trump colluded with Russia.

Dems in 2020: Biden won. There is no evidence of voter fraud.

[Nov 11, 2020] People voting from the grave

Nov 11, 2020 | twitter.com

Pearle @ilovejc07

Pearle @ilovejc07 Replying to
@KDKA
@KDKA look at these 200 years old people that voted smh. This is all types of fraud, and they put it out for the public to see! And this is only a small amount of them, the list goes on ..... how ya'll cant see this is beside me
3:52 PM · Nov 11, 2020
3:52 PM · Nov 11, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone

[Nov 11, 2020] Trump Jr does not even suspect how right he is when he said: For perhaps the first time in American history, a coordinated effort to taint or overturn a presidential election may be underway

RussiaGate was a color revolution and probably the first in the USA history.
Nov 11, 2020 | twitter.com

Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr 21h

For perhaps the first time in American history, a coordinated effort to taint or overturn a presidential election may be underway https:// trib.al/rMxYlDj

[Nov 11, 2020] A very convenient approach: When democrats lose, it's the Russians. When democrats win, you must immediately accept the outcome of the election

Nov 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Nona Yobiznes , 52 minutes ago

When democrats lose, it's the Russians. When democrats win, you must immediately accept the outcome of the election even if it's going to court and getting contested over multiple incidents of impropriety, irregularities and fraud.

They're all about election integrity - where election integrity means election victory.

[Nov 10, 2020] An interesting definition of the "new normal": having very suspecious Dominion software in voting machine , corporate media doing a witch hunt on Trump for 5 years

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

c.d. Peric , says: November 10, 2020 at 10:27 am GMT • 10.9 hours ago

@gay troll

Joe won because of our "new normal".

"New normal" as in: having Dominion software flip votes from Trump to Biden, corporate media doing a witch hunt on Trump for 5 years, MSM lying about everything from George Floyd not dying from a drug overdose, MSM literally fanning the flames to incite a race war? I could go on.

You're a sick minded troll I give you that.

[Nov 10, 2020] Neoliberal Dems, Russia and neo McCarthyism campaign in the USA in 2016-2020

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

Realist , says: November 10, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT • 4.1 hours ago

Third, on the international front, we can expect even more hysterical Russia bashing (the Dems all hate Russia with a passion, especially since they have brainwashed themselves for four years that "Putin" had "attacked" the US elections). But there is really nothing the US can do to Russia, it is way too late for that. So I would expect even more hot air than from the Trump Administration, and probably not much more action, although that is by no means certain, since a braindead nominal President like Biden would not have Trump's intelligence to understand that a war against Russia, China or Iran would end in a disaster: Dems always start wars to try to convince the public that they are "tough" (Dukakis in his M-1 tank).

The Dems don't hate Russia it is used as a bogeyman to re direct the populace anget at the neoliberal social system .

Russia, China, Iran and all the rest of the world probably can't believe their good fortune the US is destroying itself.

Biden will not be in control of the US, or any part of it he will be in the corner pissing his pants. The Deep State will be calling the shots.

[Nov 10, 2020] The NYT article on Barr's salvo reveals the Democrats and their Allied Media shift from the no longer defendable "No evidence of voter fraud," to no evidence that the fraud was "widespread."

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

MLK , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 7.2 hours ago

@MLK

By the way, the NYT article on Barr's salvo reveals the Democrats and their Allied Media shift from the no longer defendable "No evidence of voter fraud," to no evidence that the fraud was "widespread."

In other words, "Forget about PA. We don't need it." But while their Allied Media will of course dutifully abide, Trump pulled the lawsuit trigger yesterday. More are coming soon. Including WI and MI.

Thus it's a mistake to think that Biden being declared the winner in AZ and GA, with the attendant "both controlled by Republicans!" shouting, will abort the process now in motion.

[Nov 10, 2020] The war is over Global Capitalism triumphs! -- RT Op-ed

Nov 10, 2020 | www.rt.com

This article was originally published by Consent Factory .

By C. J. Hopkins , award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His dystopian novel, ' Zone 23 ', is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. His essays and other works can be found at, and he can be reached via, cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org . OK, so, that was not cool. For one terrifying moment there, it actually looked like GloboCap was going to let Russian-Asset Hitler win.

Hour after hour on election night, states on the map kept turning red, or pink, or some distinctly non-blue color. Wisconsin Michigan Georgia Florida. It could not be happening, and yet it was. What other explanation was there? The Russians were stealing the election again!

But, of course, GloboCap was just playing with us. They're a bunch of practical jokers, those GloboCap guys. Naturally, they couldn't resist the chance to wind us up just one more time.

Seriously, though, while I enjoy a good prank, I still have a number of liberal friends, many of whom were on the verge of suffering major heart attacks as they breathlessly waited for the corporate media to confirm that they had successfully voted a literal dictator out of power. (A few of them suffer from IBS or other gastrointestinal disorders, so, in light of the current toilet-paper shortage caused by the Return of the Apocalyptic Plague, toying with them like that was especially cruel.)

But, whatever. That's water under the bridge. The good news is, the nightmare is over! Literal Hitler and his underground army of Russia-loving white supremacists have been vanquished! Decency has been restored! Globalization has risen from the dead!

... ... ..

Meanwhile, the GloboCap propaganda has reached some new post-Orwellian level. After four long years of "RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION!" now, suddenly, "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ELECTION FRAUD IN THE USA!"

That's right, once again, millions of liberals, like that scene in ' 1984' where the Party switches official enemies right in the middle of the Hate-Week speech, have been ordered to radically reverse their "reality," and hysterically deny the existence of the very thing they have been hysterically alleging for four solid years and they are actually doing it!

... ... ///

Marian1637 7 hours ago

I can not comprehend that democrats do not blame Putin for Biden winning!

Reilly 3 hours ago

Very funny, bravo! Nothing like a bit of slapstick, with a dose of reality also in the middle of a waking nightmare about to happen. ;))

DeoGratias 4 hours ago

One correction : it is not GloboCap it is GloboComs. The objective of communism is to create two classes of a society : rulers and workers. Thus GloboCaps are GloboComs.

Winter7Mute 5 hours ago

A reliable way to make people believe in falsehoods is frequent repetition, because familiarity is not easily distinguished from truth. Authoritarian institutions and marketers have always known this fact. I'm not even sure if most journalists or reporters know what their even talking about, when writing these articles.

Vidarr Kerr 5 hours ago

There is such a thing as Too Much Sarcasm.

EarthBotV2 Vidarr Kerr 4 hours ago

I disagree. The liberazi "thinks" with the gut -- as in "What does your gut tell you?"...

[Nov 10, 2020] I can not comprehend that democrats do not blame Putin for Biden winning!

Nov 10, 2020 | www.rt.com
Marian1637 7 hours ago

I can not comprehend that democrats do not blame Putin for Biden winning!

[Nov 10, 2020] The new meaning of "decency" now is nothing more then "US political correct speak" : rabid warmongering and subservience to financial oligarchy

Nov 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Paul , Nov 9 2020 6:36 utc | 102

I am following the Australian media from outside Australia. I notice the familiar repetitive propaganda technique used to sell messages in the media to the gullible and uneducated public. It's all in a word and that word was again deployed today in federal parliament to describe Joe Biden. The word, wait for it...is 'decent.'

I fail to understand how someone who describes himself as a zionist can also be described as decent. The two positions are mutually self exclusive. A better word would be ugly, obsequious or weak. I am sure barflies have a few more adjectives to throw in, In six months there will be a flood of useful words.

[Nov 10, 2020] The new way of mail-in voting in Minnesota

Nov 10, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Deap , 09 November 2020 at 08:20 PM

In Minnesota sounds like you get to sell your blank ballot for a few hundred dollars to the Omar campaign. They take over the rest of the task, and hand you the "I voted" sticker along with the cash. The streets of America are paved with gold.

[Nov 10, 2020] Bumper sticker seen yesterday

Nov 10, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"Who did George Floyd vote for?" pl


Fred , 08 November 2020 at 10:21 AM

George was a man of courage and integrity. He voted for Trump. He just couldn't persaude enough of his fellows to make a difference.

exiled off mainstreet , 08 November 2020 at 11:40 AM

He voted the same as deceased former boxing champ Joe Frazier, since the party workers filling out the ballots knew both men were deceased. May be Jack Dempsey and Jack Johnson also voted.

BillWade , 08 November 2020 at 03:41 PM

And what about Seth Rich and Jeffrey Epstein

inquiring minds want to know

[Nov 10, 2020] Member of the Trump team suggest that Biden is a new Gore

Nov 10, 2020 | www.politico.com

Tim Murtaugh, the Trump campaign communications director, tweeted a photo of a mock Washington Times newspaper from 2000 with the headline "PRESIDENT GORE" in an attempt to show how the media can prematurely announce a winner.

But he later quietly deleted the tweet after it was revealed the headline had been photoshopped -- the newspaper had never run such a headline.

[Nov 09, 2020] Biden victory in some ways looks like Catch 22 for neoliberal Dems

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... But while they now have the power, globalists do not have solutions to the country problems, and the crisis of neoliberalism (which started in 2008) will continue, the far-right nationalism will stay and may even gain strength. This suggests that in 2024 is somebody like Tucker Carlson will lead the ticket. And Tucker is a more dangerous opponent to neoliberal Dems than Trump ever been. "Trumpism without Trump" will live, so to speak. ..."
Nov 09, 2020 | crookedtimber.org

Hidari 11.08.20 at 8:20 pm

Interesting piece by Beinart about the obvious question that isn't being asked: Why did Trump lose? After all he had the advantages of incumbency, until February the stock market was booming, wages were rising, things were going great.

Answer: because he was not nearly radical enough. Because he was a weak leader who was captured by the Republican elite (not the other way round). Also (rather ironic this) because he was and is a terrible negotiater. He continually caved into the likes of Mitch McConnell, and, well the rest is history.

Question: will 'super Trump' in 4 or 8 years time manage to follow the Eastern European template and create a genuine populist party? (economically social democratic, particularly concentrating on pensioners: extremely hostile to immigration, skeptical of environmental issues, culturally conservative?). If so the future is the Republicans' but it's a big if.

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/11/07/how-trump-lost/

likbez 11.09.20 at 4:20 pm (no link)

@Hidari 11.08.20 at 8:20 pm

...he was a weak leader who was captured by the Republican elite (not the other way round). Also (rather ironic this) because he was and is a terrible negotiator. He continually caved into the likes of Mitch McConnell, and, well the rest is history.

All true. But Biden victory in some ways looks like Catch 22 for neoliberal Dems (Will the Democrats Ever Make Sense of This Week? – New Republic):

In sum, if the results we have hold, Joe Biden will win the election and preside over a divided Congress. A chastened and anxious Democratic caucus will continue to hold the House.

A triumphant Senate Republican caucus will obviously destroy his major legislative agenda. Biden will assuredly turn to policy by executive action, just as Barack Obama did late in his legislatively stymied administration.

When he does, Republicans will do all they can to send those actions to a 6–3 conservative Supreme Court Biden will be unable to pack or meaningfully reform.

In defeating Trump, Democrats will have avoided their worst-case scenario. Instead, they will have won the worst possible Biden victory, a political situation that will be a nightmare all its own.

Trump, with his "national neoliberalism," was an anomaly in its own right. And such things do not last long. So this is a kind of "return to normal" -- return to power of the "internationalist" faction of Oligarchy who is linked to globalization (and constitutes the majority of the US oligarchy), which was unexpectedly defeated in 2016 and since then foght tooth and nail for the return to power. And such "normalization" is the most logical outcome of the 2020 elections and is to be expected.

But while they now have the power, globalists do not have solutions to the country problems, and the crisis of neoliberalism (which started in 2008) will continue, the far-right nationalism will stay and may even gain strength. This suggests that in 2024 is somebody like Tucker Carlson will lead the ticket. And Tucker is a more dangerous opponent to neoliberal Dems than Trump ever been. "Trumpism without Trump" will live, so to speak.

That may spell troubles for the well-being of the PMC (professional and management class) to which we all belong.

I would add that the fact that Biden victory legitimized Russia-gate and abuse of their power by intelligence agencies is also a problem. I suspect that Neo-McCarthyism, in the long run, might backfire.

[Nov 09, 2020] Tucker: GOP Establishment Happy to Sell Out their Voters with Amnesty

Highly recommended!
Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Fox News Channel's Tucker Carlson says Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is "happy to sell out his voters with an amnesty deal" after he suggested finding "common ground" with Democrats on immigration.

During a segment Friday night, Carlson called out Graham -- who just won reelection in South Carolina -- for suggesting to the Senate Republican caucus that their agenda next year could include working with Democrats on amnesty for 11 to 22 million illegal aliens. Carlson asked:

Who's excited to greet our new corporate overlords? Who plans to collaborate, particularly who on the right side, the Republican side, the side that said it was defending you. Who's happy about all of this? That seems worth keeping track of just so we know who we're dealing with here.

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Carlson went on to say:

I was particularly interested in the comments of Lindsey Graham who just won reelection in the state of South Carolina because conservatives voted for him the people around Trump put a great deal of pressure on Lindsey Graham to send them money, so after a day or two, he made a great show of sending them $500,000.

But then on the issues that matter, Lindsey Graham immediately ran away from the ideas that he claimed to support and said that he would be happy to sell out his voters with an amnesty deal, like within hours of the election.

You have a deeply flawed party that refuses to protect its own voters and represent their legitimate interests but they are the only hope that this country doesn't descend into something unrecognizable. It puts 70 million decent people in a tough spot.

Already, America First conservatives and immigration reformers are pushing back against Graham's comments.

"The new base of the Republican Party is the American working class, of all races. 'Common ground' on immigration reform is code for amnesty, and amnesty is an insult to the millions who voted GOP in the election," Bostonians Against Sanctuary Cities President Lou Murray told Breitbart News.

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Currently, there are about 20 million Americans who are jobless or underemployed, mostly due to the Chinese coronavirus crisis, but all of whom want full-time jobs.

Economists have found that their job opportunities and wages can be easily diminished by high immigration levels.

One particular study by the Center for Immigration Studies' Steven Camarota revealed that for every one percent increase in the immigrant portion of American workers' occupation, their weekly wages are cut by perhaps 0.5 percent. This means the average native-born American worker today has his weekly wages reduced by potentially 8.75 percent, since more than 17 percent of the workforce is foreign-born.

The high immigration policy is a boon for giant corporations, real estate investors, Wall Street, university systems, and Big Agriculture that can cash in on an economy that offers low wages to a flooded U.S. labor market.

John Binder is a reporter for Breitbart News. Follow him on Twitter at @JxhnBinder .

Sharon Barnes Schrödinger's cat 2 days ago

Term limits are needed.

Terrence Carlson Sharon Barnes 17 minutes ago

A Constitutional amendment to enact term limits, and remove all money from the election process.

scrutinizer1 Time_4A_Change 2 days ago • edited

To start one's own party is not so easy and outright impossible under the current conditions. If the majority of GOP supports him then the best course would be to purge and reinvigorate GOP: he should issue a call of action to his supporters and create the situation when those who use their membership to their own benefits will be forced to step down or cancel the membership. By purging I don't mean filling it in with 'yes-men': they don't have to be obliged to love Trump; criticism is essential, but these people have to be able to differentiate between the personal and common when on service. They all have to be loyal to the America First. If you call yourself 'Republican' then behave like one or choose another party. Such RINOs are materially motivated - they never couldn't build a career in the Dems Party, especially now, with the Squad; they can't start their own Party - nobody will vote them, because they'll be the party of traitors and sell-outs. Benny Too Too deploritarian 2 days ago

No your corrupt corp fraud media did it to him along with hussein osama's weaponized US agencies! Now go back to watching CNN lying hate media to get even more stupid

freevoter2016 Benny Too Too 2 days ago

With 25 Million Illegal Aliens in our Country the Democrats have an absolute Lock on this and future Elections by enabling them to Vote. No Voter ID laws, Sanctuary Cities awarding them all Privileges of US Citizens from Drivers Licenses and access to all welfare state programs. We are not a Sovereign Nation any longer. ANITFA called it in their Protests "No More BORDERS. Democrats support this Treasonous Group because it gives them perpetual control of Washington. Elibar deploritarian 2 days ago

Better European papers? LOL! I live in Europe and can tell you they're every bit as lying and partisan as the MSM EVERYWHERE! Practically every European national broadcaster and newspaper gets s o r o s funding, unless you happen to read Hungarian. For instance, the long defunct Italian Radical party's radio station was close to collapse due to lack of support. They are now back on air admitting the Hungarian pos gave them almost 400,000 euro if they supported 'immigration'. Read the Beano, it's far more informative.

[Nov 09, 2020] Will the next "super Trump" in 4 or 8 years time manage to follow the Eastern European template and create a genuine populist party? The answer is probably yes

We need to watch Tucker Carlson
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Hidari 11.08.20 at 8:20 pm ( 51 )


[Nov 09, 2020] Who sucks more?

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Allen M. Ease Murray Suid 6 hours ago

You leftists will NEVER understand the Trump supporters.
We voted for Trump because we DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THE REPUBLICANS WERE DOING (or actually, NOT doing).
Republicans and Democrats BOTH suck. Democrats just suck 100 times more and are 100 times more retarded.
But I would get rid of the RINOs first. At least the evil traitorous democrats don't hide their intentions like the back-stabbing traitorous RINOS.

[Nov 09, 2020] The Democrats all stopped counting in numerous states on election night to give them time to "create" some extra mail-in Biden votes.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Rob TheDrewtho 2 days ago • edited

The GOP will stand with Trump, and Trump will be legally reelected. The Michigan Legislature just convened a special session to consider the widespread ballot stuffing, technical "glitches," and other suspicious activity in their election. Everyone in Michigan knows that Trump and James won that election in a landslide.

The Democrats all stopped counting in numerous states on election night to give them time to "create" some extra mail-in Biden votes.

The legislature, controlled by the GOP, will invalidate the election if there is evidence of fraud. They have the Constitutional right to instruct the electors. America will not let the Democrats steal an election the way they do in Venezuela. THIS JUST IN: The Wisconsin legislature, controlled also by the GOP, has been called to investigate voter fraud too!! Milwaukee had an unprecedented 91% return rate, more than any precinct in history by 20 points. No fraud? We'll see. TruLogix Dennis Mastin 2 days ago

Yeah good luck. The work has been done. The ballots removed are long gone. GOP is to blame this was obvious and they put nothing in place to stop this knowing it was most likely part of the plan with all of the dems fighting tooth and nail for mail in. Bullet2354 Avery Bierce 2 days ago • edited

In places like Michigan, more republicans requested Absentee Ballots than Democrats...

And More republicans returned their Absentee Ballots than Democrats....

This data is public information; reported by the state. Bullet2354 trackrunner11 . a day ago

Vote Integrity will prevail.
https://www.youtube.com/wat... Bullet2354 Avery Bierce 2 days ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...

Click "MI"

then Absentee voters...

It is State Data.
Bullet2354
Avery Bierce a day ago

The 20% could be mostly Biden... but 80-20%. Dems did pick up votes... but so did Trump!

And while I know you feel some republicans did not like Trump... all polling done this year shows 89-94% of Republicans were supporting Trump - actually much higher than Dem support for Biden...
- the Trump 'Voter Enthusiasm was off the charts"..... Biden had historic LOW 'voter enthusiasm most of the summer.

Also - many Bernie People (about 25% in spring) stated they would never vote Democrat after what the DNC did to Bernie in 2016 and 2020. Maybe the came back to Biden - but I don't know... I did not see Bernie people rallying for Joe at all.

I think the "ILLEGAL BALLOT ISSUE" IS NOW WHAT THE FOCUS is moving too...

Voting Laws were abused... Late ballots, fake registrations, 'the dead,' ghost mail in ballot.... -and intentionally and illegally manipulated ballots - even poll workers admitting they tossed Trump votes because they hate him so much...

I think this flipped states.... Avery Bierce Bullet2354 a day ago

Of course, support for Biden isn't in issue. Exasperation with Trump is clearly the issue.
Independents don't generally support Trump this year.
I don't think many Bernie people would vote for Trump. That doesn't make much sense.
Yes, clearly Trump wants lawyers to argue about ballots being illegal. I guess he thinks they might be able to show enough ballots were illegal, and that most of the illegal ballots were for Biden. Ball is in their court on that, I guess. But in court, Trump won't be able to argue in the form of tweets that say "we've been hearing about so much fraud." Time to put up.

ReplyShare › − Avatar Bullet2354 Avery Bierce 20 hours ago

Court challenges are coming.... that is for sure...
Supreme Court already has the PA rulings and is looking at that.

I do think overall Election Integrity has been compromised... at almost every level and every step of the process. Ghost ballots sent out, Mail in ballots sold for cash, 'the dead,' Fake Ids', out of state voters voting multiple times, dates and signatures altered, ballots trashed by partisan poll workers, ballots altered, software 'errors' (that seem to favor one party about 100% of the time) ...

It is too much.... I have seen a few poll workers arrested for trying to slide multiple votes through a machine - and I though 'well just few votes won't matter' - but now... the Trust is broken...

If anything good can come of all this - I hope the "Voting Process" is overhauled 100%... maybe even to the level of BlockChain.... Bullet2354 Mike a day ago

My concern is not the actual count... however.

My concern is that Voter Laws were abused... significantly.

illegal votes counted, illegal processes used - a really corrupted vote system..... The Law was not followed.

2016 MI was bad enough with the failed RECOUNT.... Detroit has always had massive counting errors, bribery scandals, constant inconsistencies, pay to vote schemes, 'walking around money' - and the STATE has know this for 60 years! ... yet never moved to fix it. I think it has grown 'out of control' in 2020.

I used to 'give a little' for a few fraudulent votes here or there.... a few Dead people get a ballot... a few data base errors.

This year - the Fraud has crossed the line.

I don't trust the count. - VOTE INTEGRITY HAS COLLAPSED.

[Nov 09, 2020] Bitter election aftermath suggests that US democracy really is in its death throes

Nov 09, 2020 | www.rt.com

By Graham Hryce , an Australian journalist and former media lawyer, whose work has been published in The Australian, the Sydney Morning Herald, the Age, the Sunday Mail, the Spectator and Quadrant. It's only when you compare what is happening in America to the likes of Australia, which also recently held elections, that you appreciate just how alarming the situation in the US is. Civil war is a real possibility.

Despite the fact that America and Australia are both liberal democracies sharing a common cultural heritage, key aspects of the US presidential and congressional elections appear extraordinary from an Australian perspective.

To paraphrase Tolstoy: all happy democracies may resemble one another, but every unhappy democracy is apparently unhappy in its own way.

In recent months, elections have taken place in three Australian states and territories. In each of these contests, the incumbent government has been returned with an increased majority, while in America, President Donald Trump has been narrowly defeated by Joe Biden.

Leaving aside the disparate results, the following important differences between the Australian and the American elections are clear: Firstly, the comparative irrelevance of Covid-19 as an issue in the American election. Secondly, the dominance of a crude populist pro-capitalist ideology (favouring business interests and profits over lives) in the American electoral contests. And finally, Trump's predictable and completely unprincipled response to his defeat.

Debate host Chris Wallace sparks more conservative fury by comparing Trump ally Ted Cruz to Japanese soldiers unaware of war's end

These differences augur badly for the future of democracy in America – in fact, they indicate that it may be in its death throes. In Australia, however, recent events have strengthened democracy, enabling a perspective to emerge which comprehends the disaster that may be about to engulf the US.

The outcome of the recent elections in Australia turned on the issue of how incumbent governments had handled the pandemic. Australia is a federal polity, comprising six states and two territories, with a population of some 25 million. To date, it has recorded 27,000 Covid-19 cases and 900 Covid-19-related deaths – one of the best outcomes of all Western democracies. America, by way of contrast, has seen 10 million cases and chalked up over 250,000 deaths.

Australia's remarkable result has been achieved by an early federal government closure of national borders, strict state government lockdowns and the closure of state borders.

Each of the recent Australian elections was fought on the coronavirus. The Queensland result is the most instructive. The state's Labor government imposed strict lockdowns and closed its borders very early on in the pandemic. The conservative parties opposed this, and the two Trump-like populist parties – One Nation and the Palmer Party – spent the election campaigning for the immediate lifting of all restrictions and opening of the state borders.

Last week, the Queensland Labor government was returned to power with an increased majority, and the One Nation and Palmer Party populist vote – primarily the vote of an older demographic – collapsed and crossed over to Labor.

The situation in America could not be more different. Trump refused to adopt a national policy to deal with Covid-19. He ignored and/or minimised the risk of the spread of the virus, promoted untested cures and belittled the advice of his own public health experts. He also consistently opposed all lockdown measures and other efforts by state governments to control the pandemic, and blatantly lied to voters, telling them that the virus was under control when it has continued to spread at an alarming rate.

Despite all this, Trump only narrowly lost the presidency, and, more astoundingly, the Republican Party easily retained control of the Senate. The 'blue wave' in favour of Biden and the Democrats – predicted by almost all pollsters – did not materialise.

US election is a 'travesty for democracy', says embattled Belarusian leader Lukashenko

One explanation for the relative unimportance of the coronavirus in the US elections is the dominance in America of a crude pro-capitalist ideology that favours the interests of business and the economy over the health of the American people. This ideology has political adherents in all Western democracies (including Australia), but only in America could mainstream politicians fervently embrace it and hope to win office.

And Trump and the Republican Party did this when the Covid-19 second wave was sweeping through Europe, compelling political leaders there (including conservatives like Boris Johnson and Emmanuel Macron) to reintroduce strict shutdowns and other measures to deal with it.

Fifty years ago, the historian Louis Hartz, in the Liberal Tradition in America , portrayed America as a nation trapped in a liberal, pro-capitalist ideological straitjacket that prevented it from dealing effectively with the social and economic challenges that confronted it. Hartz's analysis seems even more relevant now than it did then.

The most extraordinary aspect of the US election, however, has been Trump's – and the Republican Party's – refusal to accept defeat. It is this that portends, more than anything else, the demise of American democracy.

'Ugly face of liberal democracy': Iran's Khamenei jeers at highly contentious US presidential election

Not surprisingly, Trump has reacted to his defeat by alleging that Biden "stole the election" by means of widespread electoral fraud. Trump maintains that he won the election. Even before the counting of votes had concluded, he commenced a number of legal actions – most of which are doomed to failure – challenging the results in various states.

Donald Trump Jr. urged Republican supporters to "go to total war" to keep his father in office. Trump's former adviser, Steve Bannon (who is currently facing criminal charges) called for the beheading of senior public health officer Anthony Fauci and the FBI director, Christopher A. Wray.

Powerful Republican politicians, including Senator Lindsey Graham, have vigorously supported Trump's response to his defeat. Newt Gingrich, the former Republican powerbroker, predicted that Biden's victory would generate a build-up of rage that would keep Trump in power.

Republican Governor of Florida Ron DeSantis has urged members of the Electoral College – whose votes determine the outcome of the presidential election – to break with convention and give their votes to Trump, despite the fact that voters in their states preferred Biden. This unprecedented suggestion, which has not been disavowed by Trump and his supporters, constitutes a serious attack on the mechanism at the heart of the US presidential electoral process.

It also offers Trump a way to stay in power – because if the Electoral College does not conclude its deliberations by mid-December, it falls to the Republican-dominated Congress to decide who becomes president.

Trump and the Republican Party have plunged America into an extraordinary political crisis that will not be resolved for some time. Trump will not voluntarily give up office, and it is uncertain how this impasse will be resolved.

The president's response to his defeat has astounded conservative Australian politicians. When asked to comment this week, Prime Minister Scott Morrison could only say that he was an observer of and not a participant in the US democratic process. Some of his colleagues, however, have been severely critical of Trump.

More ominously, the Covid-19 pandemic is intensifying dramatically in America, with 100,00 new cases now being recorded each day, along with 1,100 deaths. This ongoing health crisis can only exacerbate and intensify the current political crisis.

At the weekend, we saw protests in major American cities. Most disturbingly, armed Trump supporters massed outside an Arizona voting centre in an attempt to stop the count. Such events could become more common as the political crisis intensifies. It is inevitable that both sides of the intractable political and ideological divide in America will become increasingly more irrational in the coming months.

It is all very well for the Democratic Party elites to criticise Trump and his supporters for believing in conspiracy theories about the pandemic and mass electoral fraud. But these elites have themselves been peddling equally irrational views about catastrophic climate change, critical race theory and identity politics for decades. After all, whose world view is really more irrational, Trump's or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's?

Joe Biden's victory speech on the weekend was predictable and bland. It is all very well to announce "a time to heal" and tell Americans "to remain calm and patient" and that "the purpose of our politics is not unending warfare." But these are just meaningless platitudes in the current circumstances.

Reaping discord: Republicans split after Biden declares victory over Trump in US presidential election

Whatever happens, Biden will not be sworn in as president until January 20 next year. He cannot begin to deal with the pandemic until then, when it will be too late, nor can he do anything about the civil unrest that will engulf America. And even if Biden does take office as president in January, the Republican-dominated Senate will no doubt block his entire legislative program – such as it is.

America today is in a very similar position to that which it was in in the 1850s in the lead-up to the Civil War. It is deeply divided over fundamental issues of principle, which have calcified to the degree that rational debate is no longer possible. The political system, previously based on compromise, has become so ideologically divided that compromise is no longer possible.

In such circumstances, civil war becomes a very real possibility. But any coming war will be very different from the American Civil War of the 1860s. That war was fought, in effect, between two nations with regular armies.

The coming civil war in America will be a disorganised bitter social conflict fought in cities by armed groups of citizens on the barricades, much like the European revolutions of 1830 and 1848 – with one important difference. The insurgents in the European revolutions were fighting for democracy – whereas the participants in America's coming civil war will be engaged in a war to destroy it.

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[Nov 09, 2020] First gaslight, then calls for unity: Why should Biden get any more unity than Trump four years ago? by Wayne Dupree

So neoliberal Dems gaslighted everybody with Russiagate for four years, staged Ukrainegate, and now cry for unity. Funny, is not it
For four years, Democrats branded Donald Trump an illegitimate president and treated him as such. Then-President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden plotted with FBI Director James Comey a way to oust Trump's pick for national security advisor, Michael Flynn.
Now they face the results of the attempt to depose Trump via color revolution (aka Russiagate), the result of neo-McCarthyism hysteria and cry uncle. To paraphrase Tolstoy: all happy democracies may resemble one another, but every unhappy democracy is apparently unhappy in its own way.
Nov 09, 2020 | www.rt.com

Wayne Dupree has been to the White House to talk to President Trump about race relations and appeared at election events for him. He was named in Newsmax's top 50 Influential African-American Republicans in 2017, and, in 2016, served as a board member of the National Diversity Coalition for Donald Trump. Before entering politics, he served for eight years in the US Air Force. His website is here: www.waynedupree.com . Follow him on Twitter @WayneDupreeShow I've participated in eight elections including this one, and I've never before witnessed the open hostility and vitriol that's been aimed at President Trump.

No president was ever abused like Trump was from day one. The Republicans didn't cooperate with Barack Obama at all, but any thinking person can see the difference between the way Obama was treated and the way Trump has been treated. The past four years have set a dangerous precedent, and you know what they say about karma.

Representative Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer refused to work with President Trump on anything, but now the socialists want the Republicans to work with them. Interpretation: we want the Republicans to work with us as long as they believe everything we believe and do everything to help us, even if, in their eyes, it destroys America. No dissent will be accepted.

You really have to wonder about this arrogance from the Democrats and their call for unity, don't you? Joe Biden is calling for unity because he doesn't want to face the constant scrutiny the Trump administration faced. After all, do you think the hundreds of millions he received in campaign contributions didn't come with strings attached?

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Right now, there's not enough critical thinking for unity to happen; our emotions govern too many of us. The media have played on that for four years. They convinced millions of Americans they would have to be insane to consider re-electing Trump, even though most Americans are sick of the establishment politicians and their big empty promises, sick of their endless and expensive foreign wars, sick of a sluggish economy, and tired of the outsourcing of American jobs.

How can unity happen when the rift between liberals and conservatives is larger than ever, and the two sides envision this country's future in vastly different ways? How will half of the American population ever again trust their sources of news and information when nearly every outlet has lost all pretense of objectivity? Every bit of reporting has become an opinion piece.

In marriage, they call these irreconcilable differences. It may not happen in my lifetime, but this country would do well to consider a peaceful separation.

Our national media have failed us. And that's all media, including social. They caught us all hook, line, and sinker. Why? Money. We are such a gullible species. The more people hear an idea promoted, the more it sounds true. This is why our country is divided. We rely too heavily on our media for information, true or not. They manipulate us with their words like modern-day bards. Journalism is indeed dead, and it's been replaced by sensationalism. But it all boils down to who's really at fault. To find that out, look in the mirror. Yes, we all let this happen to us.

I wouldn't blame people for believing phony news. Think about it: why do companies spend literally billions of dollars on commercials? Companies use commercials to change our buying habits, and they work extremely well on a subliminal level. Likewise, the mainstream and social media use misinformation, distortions, deceptions, and omissions to change people's voting behavior on that same subliminal level. The only way to ensure legitimate elections in the future is to destroy mainstream and social media's hold on our country.

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In the past four years, the behavior of the Democrats has been that of junior high school bullies with no adult supervision. What all men want most is power, and the Democrats will do anything to get it. We can't take their low road, but should stand against their further attempts to turn this into a one-party nation. We need a broad spectrum of ideas to keep our country strong and our citizens cared for.

One party does not have all the answers, nor can they dictate to the other parties how to worship, think, or even eat. When I was young, I was a Bill Clinton Democrat. I walked away before the Obama administration and never looked back. I believe more and more people are doing that, and, by the 2022 midterms – well, watch out, Dems!

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[Nov 09, 2020] When Brennan's already purple face almost burst because Trump disputed a CNN story, we ALREADY had proof that its the CIA who SPONSORS CNN, that without that support CNN could simply not exist.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Christian Party MurraySuid 5 hours ago

When Brennan's already purple face almost burst because Trump disputed a CNN story, we ALREADY had proof that its the CIA who SPONSORS CNN, that without that support CNN could simply not exist.

I base that on 15 months of LEGALLY living in Russia, long before Trump, and the Russians themselves were shocked about how much CNN misrepresented Russia.

Half of their coverage of Russia was simply made up, and the half that was based on some facts was so distorted that it was worthless--giving them more than a 50% error rate.

I never thought they could be off by more than 50% on anything until Trump came along, with a 92% error rate by their OWN count. Joe Jones Secret Squirrel 10 hours ago

Forget about the Chinese and the Russians, this fraud was carried out by the douchebags at our very own, CIA. Those people are the most arrogant bunch of low life's that you will ever meet. I had to deal with a bunch of them while overseas.

[Nov 09, 2020] How come dead people never vote republican ?

Nov 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

VisceralFat1 , 32 minutes ago

how come dead people never vote republican ?

[Nov 09, 2020] Are Hollywood special effects specialists in charge of DNC ?

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Israel_Reconquista Jon 11 hours ago

Russia Hoax. Racism Hoax. Impeachment Hoax. Corona Hoax. Mail-in Ballot Hoax. Election Hoax.

[Nov 09, 2020] Obviously, this is yet another sign of Trump/Russia collusion

Nov 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

munich1969 , 2 hours ago

Only Friend in the World: Putin Refuses to Congratulate Biden Until the Legal Process is Finished.

Jim in MN , 2 hours ago

There are quite a few world leaders who are waiting for fair results.

VZ58 , 2 hours ago

Mexican prez did the same....not stupid.

PN7 , 1 hour ago

Obviously more Trump/Russia collusion. /s

[Nov 09, 2020] Russiagaters long for Putin gust of approval of Biden presumed win

Nov 09, 2020 | www.rt.com

Distinguished Russiagate disciple Michael McFaul upset that Putin hasn't congratulated Biden for presumed election win

Former US envoy to Russia Michael McFaul is unhappy that Moscow hasn't declared Joe Biden the election winner without official results, apparently tossing aside years of hysteria about Kremlin "meddling" in US internal affairs.

McFaul, who became one of the most outspoken proponents of the debunked theory that Moscow "colluded" with the Trump campaign in 2016, expressed his disappointment on Twitter that Russian President Vladimir Putin has yet to offer his congratulations to the Democratic nominee, who declared himself president-elect on Saturday.

"Has Putin joined the chorus of world leaders in congratulating Biden yet? I haven't see (sic) the statement. Do post if its (sic) out," he wrote. ... Earlier in the day, Fijian Prime Minister Frank Bainimarama became the first world leader to offer his congratulations to the former vice president, expressing hope that Biden would help the world navigate a "climate emergency." Reditus_sum 7 hours ago No doubt that President Putin will be in touch with Biden if and when he wants to and feels that it is warranted, I really can't imagine how Biden would cope in any negotiations with one of the sharpest analytical and political minds in the world today. orseface11 Reditus_sum 6 hours ago Good Lord, that would be a sad state of affairs. RadicalGoat 8 hours ago So far, only the vassal states have acknowledged Biden's victory.

[Nov 09, 2020] Neoliberal Dems sudden change of mind as for election fraud

Nov 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

spyware-free , 13 minutes ago

Dems spent 4 years telling us the U.S. election system is vulnerable to fraud cause RUSSIANS

Now, it's perfectly ok

[Nov 09, 2020] Benford's law and the 2020 election. A Limerick on fraud

Nov 09, 2020 | lenbilen.com

Elections and fraud in this nation

cannot stand a close observation.

Zero Trump votes are added

but Joe Biden's are padded

an act of the left's desperation

[Nov 09, 2020] Pelosi: "we have more arrows in our quiver." Does this include shares of Dominion software?

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

scsparty Liar liar pant suits on fire 4 hours ago • edited

As Pelosi recently said, " we have more arrows in our quiver". Nothing could bring this country to its knees more than massive voter fraud, other than total nuclear annuhilation.

DeplorableChump/sarc... scsparty an hour ago

Her husband showed her those quivers, he owns 60% of the vote stealing Dominion software company.

Blakesly Liar liar pant suits on firean hour ago

Dianne Feinstein's husband is also a huge stockholder in the Dominion company.

Howard Philipson Liar liar pant suits on fire an hour ago

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It's Feinstein's husband, Bloom I believe, not Pelosi's. dmayl Liar liar pant suits on fire2 hours ago

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Liar liar pant suits on fire dmayl 2 hours ago

So it is true. Pelosi's former Chief of staff is a lobbyist for Dominion Voting Systems! Bullet2354 Schrödinger's catan hour ago

"Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein Linked To Software Behind Voting Machine "Glitches" -
https://www.rightcountry.co...

And what is even more stunning is -

"Pelosis Take a Big Stake in CrowdStrike, Democrat-Connected Linchpin of Russia Probe."
https://www.realclearinvest...

Israel_Reconquista Jon 6 hours ago

Russia Hoax. Racism Hoax. Impeachment Hoax. Corona Hoax. Mail-in Ballot Hoax. Election Hoax. All one big interconnected operation to sabotage and remove a President, against the will of the people.

[Nov 08, 2020] How Foreign Nations View the 2020 Election - The National Interest

Nov 08, 2020 | nationalinterest.org

Russia has consistently stressed its willingness to work with either candidate -- late last month, the Kremlin's press secretary Dmitri Peskov rebuffed suggestions that Moscow prefers the incumbent: "it would be wrong to say that Trump is more attractive to us."

But Russia's political commentary sphere has proven more polarized. Some cite Biden's readiness to extend the New START treaty without additional conditions as evidence that Biden is someone that the Kremlin can do business with; others have expressed concern over the Democratic candidate's "Russophobic" cabinet picks and predict that, under a Biden presidency, Washington's policy of rollback will escalate to an unprecedented level. But there is also an overarching belief that Washington's Russia policy is so deeply embedded across U.S. institutions that not much is likely to change in U.S.-Russian relations.

As Peskov put it, "there is a fixed place on the altar of US domestic policy for hatred of Russia and a Russophobic approach to bilateral relations with Moscow." Still other commentators are interested in the process as much as the outcome, drawing attention to ongoing mass unrest and allegations of electoral misconduct in order to argue that Washington has forfeited its moral authority to lecture others on proper democratic procedure and the orderly transition of power.

[Nov 08, 2020] The Missing White Vote in Wisconsin Lost Trump the State

Nov 08, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The president's operation left millions of potential votes on the table Tomah, Wisconsin / USA - Oct 17th, 2020 (By Aaron of L.A. Photography)

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In the aftermath of the 2016 election, analysts on both the left and right noticed that President Trump had the potential to grow his base of white working-class voters. Five Thirty-Eight's David Wasserman noted that over 44 million non-college-educated white voters who were not even registered to vote before the 2016 election concentrated heavily in the Midwest, including 2.6 million in Pennsylvania, 2.2 million in Ohio, 900,000 in Wisconsin, and 500,000 in Iowa. All the Trump campaign needed to do was locate them and register a fraction of them, and it would be smooth sailing till election day.

Rather than employing a strategy that looked to find the missing white working-class voter, the Trump campaign devised a plan to drive support from minority voters. They released both the Platinum Plan for black Americans and the American Dream plan for Hispanic Americans, promising hundreds of billion dollars to revive their communities and a series of other identity-driven policies.

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This was successful to a point. The Hispanic turnout in Florida and Texas were large enough to deliver Trump a much larger victory than most people expected and helped keep Arizona and Nevada competitive even as he shed voters in the suburbs and among Independents as well as college-educated whites. Among black voters, exit polls showed Trump received 19 percent of the black voters between 25 and 44 years-old. However, he didn't budge the number of older black Americas who make up a majority of voters in their racial group.

That plan was always doomed to fail due to the small share of minority voters in the Midwest that were up for grabs. There weren't enough Hispanic voters or black Americans willing to flip to the GOP in those states. So they relied on their pool of existing voters and resting their fate on a ground game.

To the Trump campaign and the Wisconsin Republican Party's credit, they ran a fantastic operation in the state. The President's campaign increased his support and turnout in 22 of the 23 counties he flipped from President Obama in 2016. Even more astonishing, only two of those counties had turnout under 90 percent. Some counties like Price, Marquette, and Pepin had close to 95 percent turnout.

In the county of Kenosha, which saw race riots and acts of violence from Black Lives Matter supporters and members of Antifa, Trump increased his margin from .3 percent in 2016 to 3.2 percent in 2020, becoming the first Republican to win the county in back-to-back elections since 1928.

The ground game and high level of support from working-class white counties couldn't make up because the missing white vote stayed missing. In the 23 Obama-Trump counties, the number of registered voters declined by nearly 8,000 voters from January 2017 to November 2020 even though the population increased in these areas.

So Trump's campaign had to work harder with a smaller group of people. Most of the non-college-educated white Wisconsinites that didn't vote in 2016 remained untapped in 2020. For over three years, the campaign spent hundreds of millions of dollars chasing phantom voters in deep blue states like New Mexico rather than looking at their natural base sitting underneath their nose.

Had those funds been redirected to registering and turning out between five and ten percent of those non-college-educated white voters they missed in 2016, they wouldn't have to worry about suburbanites defecting to Biden. Fears of voters fraud or illegal vote count wouldn't have been a concern if they just reached out to their natural constituency.

There's a good chance that the same story could be told in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Minnesota. This election wouldn't have been close if they only worked on registering the people most likely to vote for them, rather than banking on minority voters who just weren't in the Rust Belt.

Ryan Girdusky is a host of TAC Right Now.

Reggi Harvey Polinski 3 days ago

As a boomer, I learned very early how evil and corrupt the democrat party can be. Never voted for a democrat traitor my entire life. Maybe get a little experience under your belt and you'll learn. Unless you're already a straight up Commie.

Annie from Alaska Reggi 3 days ago • edited

As Tucker said it's fact that Detroit and Philadelphia have a history of rigging elections. doesn't prove they're doing it this time, but people worried about it are as far from crazy as it gets.

Why are Democrats descending into entitled rages at demands for transparency, or even just explanations of what they are doing? We told to be patient with the mail-in vote for weeks, then they are totally impatient and seething outraged hatred with working through our concerns about fraud. Their protesters are already taking to the streets chanting "count every vote," which is where Trump's slogan, "every legal vote" comes from. Did they have the same emotional outbursts in the past times when we know for a fact they were rigging urban elections?

[Nov 08, 2020] Trump is not the savior of working Americans he proved that over the last 4 years. But, he was a step in the right directio

Nov 08, 2020 | www.unz.com

Tucker , says: November 8, 2020 at 7:39 am GMT • 15.1 hours ago

The white men who failed to vote for Trump in this election are incapable of grasping the concept of 'Incrementalism'.

How do you think the Frankfurt School's virulently anti-White Cultural Marxists managed to achieve the success that they have achieved since the 1960s? These subversive termites did not go full bore and try to shove their anti-White, anti-Western agenda down the throats of an America that, at the time, was still almost 90% White European. Instead, they began their steady 'march through the institutions' using stealth tactics – relying on incrementalism. One tiny step at a time, so as to not alert their target of destruction – White Americans.

Trump is not the savior of White America – he proved that over the last 4 years. But, he was a step in the right direction and these White males who were not 100 percent satisfied by his performance while in office lack the intelligence and patience that is necessary for TeamWhite during this fight for our very survival.

Our objective is to make sure that the Trumpism – populism, nationalism, rejection of globalism, rejection of massive third world immigration into the USA, and a cessation of fighting endless wars for Israel's sole benefit – these concepts must not be dumped by the GOP. If a Republican politician starts spouting globalism – or supporting amnesty – or calling for more wars – he or she needs to be thrown OUT of office as soon as possible and replaced by a Trumpist candidate.

Brad Griffin is an extremely low IQ, dangerously clueless, checkers playing retard who is too stupid to comprehend the strategy of the anti-White enemy and he thinks he can throw a hissy fit and somehow boost the amount of respect that other pro-White people have for him?

It is due to sanctimonious morons like him that the White race is in the existential crisis situation we now find ourselves in. These 'absolutists' and 'purists' are going to be the death of our race of people.

Gleimhart Mantooso , says: November 8, 2020 at 8:00 am GMT • 14.8 hours ago

By the way, there have already been observations elsewhere on the fact that White men supported Trump less than before. Not a revelation.

I had no idea if he would lose White men prior to the election, but I thought it a possibility. I'd see him stand up there at rallies in front of a massive sea of White people and he'd start bragging about all the shit he'd done for Blacks, Hispanics, and Women, but nary a mention of White men.

And what's with his hangouts with Kanye West? Saying he's the least racist person in the room. And the Platinum Plan? Is this shit why we elected you, chief?

I guarantee that no White men were thrilled to hear about blacks being let out of jail. The more blacks in jail, the better. They need to be kept where less of them can procreate. If I were POTUS, I find out which crimes black women were good at and increase the penalties for those, so we could lock up the breeders.

[Nov 08, 2020] Giuliani says Philadelphia Democrats voted foe biden from the grave

Nov 08, 2020 | www.rt.com

8 Nov, 2020 13:56 / Updated 8 hours ago Get short URL

...the Trump campaign has alleged that droves of dead people voted in Philadelphia, and that staff there illegally counted late-arriving mail ballots.

Giuliani called the "Philadelphia Democrat machine" "brazen," and claimed that the late heavyweight boxer Joe Frazier and actor Will Smith's grandfather both voted in previous elections in the city after their deaths.

"I bet Biden dominated this group," he tweeted. "We will find out."

[Nov 08, 2020] The US empire is very effectively using the second method to wage war against Russia, which is strangulating it steadily because of the neoliberal capitalist Putinist regime's famous "restraint".

Nov 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Biswapriya Purkayast , Nov 8 2020 14:48 utc | 12

The Amerikastani Empire, no matter who controls it, may have lost the hypersonic missile war. So what? They're very effectively using the second method to wage war against Russia, which is strangulating it steadily because of the neoliberal capitalist Putinist regime's famous "restraint".

Russia is increasingly surrounded by enemies and the more it exercises "restraint" the worse the situation gets for it. I do not see a "Harris" (it would actually be a Killary Clinton) regime make any difference to that at all.


arby , Nov 8 2020 14:58 utc | 14

Decent recap imo.

"To be sure, it was Russia's intervention in Syria in 2015 that sealed the deal, proving that the US did not have the omniscient capability to launch attacks anywhere, anytime without impunity – '

Trump was a symptom of American decline that Biden is unlikely to reverse

Walter , Nov 8 2020 15:06 utc | 15

Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 8 2020 14:48 utc | 12

Ad homenims against Martyanov fail to persuade me that Martyanov's views are in error. I am disappointed to see such tactics, as they imply that his logic and assessments are valid.

However I believe you have not addressed my central point. That is that a politically weak unconsented naif "leader" is classically prone to make war for domestic "authority". Wars can be lost.

Collapse of Empire often is attended by military defeat. Harris would be terribly tempted to try to prevent defeat by any means.

So, obviously, would the mooted opponents some of which my colleague has named for us as Russia.

President Putin has explained what happens if Russia is attacked by the US. "No one would survive".

To repeat. The essential feature of Harris is weakness, that tends to a pattern of war, which, at every step, is liable to catastrophic failure.

[Nov 08, 2020] How Strategic Empathy Makes for Wiser Foreign Policy -

Nov 08, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

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Anatol Lieven explains how strategic empathy is supposed to work:

This kind of empathy has very valuable consequences for foreign policy. It makes for an accurate assessment of another state establishment's goals based on its own thoughts, rather than a picture of those goals generated by one's own fears and hopes; above all, it permits one to identify the difference between the vital and secondary interests of a rival country as that country's rulers see them.

A vital interest is one on which a state will not compromise unless faced with irresistible military or economic pressure. Otherwise, it will resist to the very limit of its ability, including, if necessary, by war. A statesman who sets out to challenge another state's vital interests must therefore be sure not only that his or her country possesses this overwhelming power, but that it is prepared actually to use it.

American policymakers are notoriously bad at understanding how other governments perceive things and the reasons why they act in the way that they do, and we have seen on many occasions how this failure to understand the other side's thinking has led us into one crisis after another. Our leaders often fail to grasp that they are threatening another country's perceived vital interests, because they frequently deny that the other government has any legitimate interests at all. Instead of trying to see an issue from the other side, our leaders will often insist that there is only one acceptable way of seeing it and it is invariably the same as ours. If the other government responds angrily to this approach, they are then deemed hostile and "revisionist" rather than a normal state reacting as any other state would. Practicing this kind of empathy does not mean agreeing that the other government is right, but it does mean acknowledging what their actual position is rather than projecting one onto them.

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H.R. McMaster likes to talk a lot about practicing strategic empathy, but in fact he refuses to understand how other governments see the world. He prefers instead to imagine that they are all driven to achieve ideological, expansionist goals just as he is, and then he warns about the aggressive intentions that he has imputed to them. This is exactly the opposite of what Lieven is talking about, and it is nothing more than reading his own hawkish inclinations into everyone else's worldview. If McMaster were willing to see things as the Russian government or Chinese government did, he would understand that they perceive aggressive U.S. foreign policy since the end of the Cold War as a threat, and at least some of their conduct over this same period has been in reaction to American overreaching. But McMaster doesn't understand this at all. Instead, he insists that the behavior of other states has nothing to do with U.S. actions whatsoever, because to admit this would be to acknowledge that an interventionist foreign policy can create more problems than it solves.

Lieven points out how this lack of empathy has particularly poisoned our dealings with Russia over the last thirty years:

Straightforward Western prejudices (now dignified with the abominable euphemism of "narratives") are part of the reason for these false perceptions derived from the Cold War. The collapse of Communism, however, also led to a growth in Western hubris that led Western policymakers to fail either to listen to their Russian colleagues when they stated Russia's vital interests, or to study Russia in sufficient depth to understand that they were not bluffing but really meant what they said. Instead, you had the tragicomic picture of American officials lecturing Russian officials on the "real" interests of Russia.

This failure to listen and failure to understand account for a lot of the deterioration in U.S.-Russian relations. While Russia has contributed to this deterioration, the U.S. has repeatedly taken actions that our government knew would be perceived as provocations and threats and went ahead with them anyway. Promoting NATO expansion and promising that Ukraine and Georgia would eventually become members were some of the big provocations, but beyond specific issues there is the overarching conceit that Russian interests end at their border while ours are seemingly limitless. If we were in their position, we would have found this intolerable as well. Eventually, Russia was bound to push back, and that is what it has been doing for the last twelve years. Predictably, the pushback has been interpreted in the West as irrational aggression, and this is just more of the same failure to understand why other states act as they do.

If we would avoid unnecessary crises and clashes with other states, especially nuclear-armed major powers, our government has to begin paying closer attention to what other states say their vital interests are. There needs to be an understanding that the U.S. cannot cajole or sanction them into giving up those interests, and these interests will always matter far more to them than they do to us. Our leaders need to start understanding that and then adjusting our policies accordingly.

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[Nov 08, 2020] The bottom line is that Americans spend many billions (annually) on futile programs forcing Russia and China to spend resources on counter measures.

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Piotr Berman , Nov 8 2020 15:31 utc | 20

Note that an ICBM is not an easy target. In the "boost phase" in can be launched somewhere near place where the borders of Russia, China and Kazakhstan meet, thousands of kilometers from any NATO (or allied) installation. Up there in vacuum, ICBM may be decoyed with aluminum foil balls or something like that. But when landing their course can be accurately calculated and intercepted (at least, plausibly so). Note that an ICBM is damn fast, so you need to send a fast missile.

Here LITERALLY comes a twist. Construct a warhead with ability to zigzag while landing. Turns at that speed (7km/s?) are a technological challenge, but you do not need to turn a lot to make the future precision sufficiently unpredictable. So Chinese and Russians work on that. As a counter, Americans are working on hypersonic weapons that would be better in destroying opponent missiles on the ground before launch, that is a more difficult goal and thus they "are behind".

The bottom line is that Americans spend many billions (annually) on futile programs forcing Russia and China to spend resources on counter measures. Would Americans, at long last, develop stealthy accurate hypersonics for the first strike, a conceptually simple counter measure is to build thousands of launching sites, each with a decoy of a strategic nuclear weapon (but some with the real things). They would need to reduce the cost per a decoy site, more precisely, the ratio between the cost of "launching site destroyer" and "launching site decoy". Notably, current treaties do not allow for that, so Americans rely on limitations of the current treaties while breaking them one after another.

2. Actual developments like Syria, Ukraine etc. Biswapriya is notably reticent in description what a better Russian conduct would be, so the criticism of "neoliberal capitalist Putinist regime" is not convincing. What a better regime could do?


Biswapriya Purkayast , Nov 8 2020 16:01 utc | 23

@ 20. Piotr Berman

1. Hypersonic missiles will only ever be used in an all out war, de facto WW III. Which is overwhelmingly the least likely kind of war. Short of that no use of them is going to happen except perhaps China-Taiwan. They will certainly not be employed by Russia. Can anyone imagine Putin using hypersonic missiles in response to a trade blockade by Amerikastan on a par with the Amerikastani trade blockade of Iran?

2. I have already said exactly what Russia should have done, repeatedly and in great detail, but if you missed it you can see some of it here:

https://bill-purkayastha.blogspot.com/2020/10/the-sultan-and-grandmaster-nagorno.html

Except:

A few years ago I wrote an article in which I had compared Putin's "restraint" against Amerikastani provocations not just failures in and of themselves, but direct encouragement to more provocations. Back in 2014, I had said, Putin was so single issue focussed on the Sochi Olympics that what even the Amerikastani imperialists STRATFOR called the "most blatant coup in history" played out in full public view in Kiev, without Russia lifting a finger. I had written that Putin could have sent in two battalions of Spetsnaz, overthrown Obama's Ukranazi coup regime, reinstated Viktor Yanukovych, and withdrawn, with the clear statement that if there were any more coups Russia would return and this time to stay. I remember that when the militias of the Donbass were desperately raiding museums to secure WWII weapons to take on Ukranazi armoured columns, when Russian military blogs were demanding "Putin, dai prikaz!" (Putin, give the order!), Putin kept silent. When the defenders of Donbass had to withdraw from Slovyansk and were nearly cut into two, when the Ukranazis were at Donetsk airport, when defeat was only a matter of hours, it was then that Putin allegedly did something. What that something was I'm not clear about. It was certainly not the dispatch of Russian forces, or else Russian tanks would have been rolling down the Kiev streets in two days. It may have been finally sending weapons, allowing volunteers to go to the front to fight (including more than a few brave and laudable Americans; not all of them are brain-dead imperialists), and possibly limited artillery support. At any rate, when the defenders of the republics crushed the Ukranazis at Debaltsevo and were well on the way to liberating Mariupol on the Black Sea, Putin again withdrew support to them, leaving them without a port and stuck in a frozen war interrupted by sniping and shelling.

...

But let's ignore the people of the two Donbass republics for the moment and look at the result of this "restraint". Today, Amerikastani B52 bombers and RC135 reconnaissance planes fly freely through Ukranazi airspace right up to the Russian border, compelling Russian air defence systems to turn on their electronic defences, exposing their signatures for analysis and jamming by said Amerikastanis. Ukranazistan, not being a NATO member officially, is even more valuable to Amerikastan than it would have been as a NATO member, since it can be used for staging actions that could not involve NATO without risk of a world war. How's that for "restraint", Putinoids?

In fact, with the one shining exception of the war against Georgia in defence of South Ossetia in 2008, when Medvedev – not Putin – was president, Russian foreign policy has always been criminally defensive and reactive, never proactive. In 2011 Russia permitted Libya to be destroyed, turning an ally into a jihadi hellhole where a slave trading human trafficking regime and a CIA asset fight for control. In 2015 Syria was on the verge of collapse when Putin belatedly and reluctantly sent just enough planes and troops to save Damascus and help the legitimate government of Dr Assad liberate Aleppo, but failed to do a thing to stop the north and east turn into, respectively, an Ottoman colony and a Kurd Quisling puppet state under Amerikastani protection. In 2020 in Belarus it was only the personal courage and genuine popularity of President Aleksandr Lukashenko that prevented a colour revolution that would have turned the country into another NATO stooge. The same 2020 saw the Putin regime allow the racist right wing "liberal" Alexei Navalny to be sent to Germany, and predictably a fake "Novichok poisoning" was immediately manufactured to wreck EU-Russian relations, which were just about beginning to mend, beyond repair.

To quote Shakespeare, "art thou answer'd yet"?

ADKC , Nov 8 2020 16:13 utc | 26

Biswapriya Purkayast @18

"...how war is actually fought in the 21st century - by information control, economic strangulation, colour revolution, and armed rebellion by proxy..."

Wars were fought like that in the 20th, 19th century, etc. probably all the way back in history. The purpose of such tactics is to avoid direct conflict, to weaken your oponent, to draw them into expending resources on debilitating conflicts.

Quotes from "The Art of War" (Sen Zhui, 5h Century BC):

"The greatest victory is that which requires no battle"

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win"

The western war against Russia goes back 100s of years.

The point Walter is making is that the US indirect war against Russia is failing and that the defeated US may seek to "win" by going to a direct conflict with Russia and that a week person, Harris, may lack the wisdom to prevent, moderate such desires.

Harris is a weak character and it is believed that she is overly fond (reliant) on alcohol. It seems obvious that she was originally intended to be the democratic nominee but despite preplanned set pieces (the evisceration of the "racist" Biden) she messed it up and disappeared in the polls only to resurrected as Biden's running mate. For some reason it seems very important to have Harris as the VP.

Walter's point isn't moot.

Jackrabbit , Nov 8 2020 16:13 utc | 27

Piotr Berman @Nov8 15:31 #20

... so the criticism of "neoliberal capitalist Putinist regime" is not convincing. What a better regime could do?

I think this is correct.

But it doesn't detract from Biswapriya Purkayast's argument that Russia's advantage in conventional arms is not indicative of Russia's ability to prevail in conflict with the Empire which engages in 4th-generational warfare.

My own view is that IMO Russia's "answer" to the Empire's 4-gen warfare has been demonstrated in Ukraine and Syria and their ability to counter 4th-gen warfare will only improve via Russia's alliance with economic powerhouse China and the SCO military alliance.

This is consistent with the consensus view at moa that the Empire has a limited time to smack-down China and/or break up the Russia-China lovefest.

!!

[Nov 08, 2020] Problem for Washington Russophobic Blob: Why all powerful Russians did not help Trump?

Nov 08, 2020 | www.themoscowtimes.com

The infamous Steele Dossier has been discredited by Russian journalists , while here in DC it's becoming clear that, whoever wins once all the votes are counted, America will have to contend with the fact that very nearly half of voters still chose Trump the second time around despite his handling of the coronavirus crisis and without much help from Moscow .

... And when Biden calls Trump Putin's puppy? Putin himself has said comments like these lend Russia "some extraordinary influence and power," without having to do hardly anything yourself.

If Trump leaves the White House, he may leave as a convenient optical illusion of Russia's relative influence, but one that has created a lot more problems for Russia in his wake than it has solved.

[Nov 08, 2020] Would you prefer a multi-millionaire tycoon that inexplicably became a politician, to a politician that inexplicably became a multi-millionaire

Nov 08, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

JM Gavin , 08 November 2020 at 09:32 AM

Confused Ponderer,

While many seem to prefer a multi-millionaire tycoon that inexplicably became a politician, you prefer a politician that inexplicably became a multi-millionaire. That's fine, but I don't recall hearing any consistent policy from Joe Biden other than his promises to not be Donald Trump.

The truth is that you don't like Trump, or perhaps you don't like his policies. Don't pretend you did an analysis and decided that Biden has better policies, as we haven't seen any of Biden's policies.

You are fine with ignoring Biden's threats to withhold aid from the Ukraine unless they do XYZ, but it's a "thug's approach" when Trump does it?

You have a very appropriate screen name.

[Nov 08, 2020] I am waiting to see what Crowdstrike has to say about computer voting glitches in 2020 elections

Nov 08, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Deap , 08 November 2020 at 01:03 AM

I am waiting to see what Crowdstrike has to say about computer voting glitches. After they don't investigate the actual machines.

[Nov 08, 2020] The subtle difference between "stolen" and "not-quite-stolen" election

Nov 08, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

JM Gavin , 08 November 2020 at 10:28 AM

NancyK,

Are you asserting that no criminal action occurred, or that the criminal action that did occur had no effect on the outcome?

There is substantial clear and concrete evidence of criminal action. Are you denying that? Denying that undeniable fact makes you appear either hopelessly partisan or easily duped. More on that later.

Did the criminal action which undeniably occurred affect the outcome of the election? That is a logical question, the answer of which remains unknown. If the answer is "yes," then the "election was stolen." If no, then it wasn't "stolen."

We don't yet know the answer to that question. If you want to remain credible, you should wait until the answer is known. If the answer is never know (as now appears may be the case), so be it. You should refrain from making bold assertions about things that aren't known.

I don't really care that much about Trump or Biden. I do care deeply about the integrity of elections. I'd rather have President Biden than see Trump re-elected through fraud. While my personal politics are closer to Trump's policies than the Democrats' (as Biden has no policies), my respect for the system is far greater than my concern for the politics. I find both men boorish and uninteresting.

This is a very dangerous point in our history. If you don't understand that, understand this: There are two kinds of people in the world, predators and prey. Our system of checks and balances is all we have to keep us from being nothing more than predators and prey. If you choose not to see this, understand that you are lunch, nothing more.

And, yes, I am a predator.

JMG

[Nov 08, 2020] Little help for poor old Bide: Wisconsin Poll Workers Allegedly Altered Thousands Of Invalid Ballots

Nov 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 8 2020 18:58 utc | 47

"The statute is very, very clear," said retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman - who served as a Milwaukee poll watcher on Election Day. "If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it's not valid. That ballot is not valid."

"In defiance of and direct contradiction to the statute, the Wisconsin Elections Commission gave guidance--that is, cover--to all 72 county clerks and turned the statute on his head," Gableman added. "They said, 'Gee, we know the law says an absentee ballot without the witness address is not valid, but county clerk, you have a duty to go ahead and look up on your own the witness' address if there's no address on the absentee ballot."

According to the report, the WEC informed voters that "your witness must sign and provide their full address (street number, street name, city) in the Certification of Witness section," adding "if any of the required information above is missing, your ballot will not be counted."

On October 19, the WEC instructed clerks to 'simply fill in the witness address themselves so that the ballot would not be invalidated.'

Wisconsin Poll Workers Allegedly Altered Thousands Of Invalid Ballots: Report

[Nov 08, 2020] Comparing Biden and Trump

Nov 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

lysias , Nov 8 2020 18:01 utc | 41

So what if Trump has only a modicum of competence? Surely that's a lot more than what Biden has.

[Nov 08, 2020] Gridlock -- Biden May Or May Not Win, But Trump Remains 'President' Of Red America by Alastair Crooke

Notable quotes:
"... Mike Lind, the American academic and author has observed , around the idea of America moving toward a 'managed' society -- based on 'science' -- that would be essentially finessed and controlled by a managerial, expert class. ..."
"... The notion however, of what America -- as Idea -- now constitutes, has fractured into two tectonic plates, moving apart in very different directions -- and likely to move even further apart as each 'plate' remains convinced that 'it won' -- and the sweetness of victory has been stolen. ..."
"... The fact remains that the election has produced a result in which it is abundantly clear that one half of the American electorate precisely voted to oust the other half. ..."
"... A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. ..."
Nov 08, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Alastair Crooke via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

One clear outcome of the U.S. election was the collapse of the promised 'Blue Wave' -- an implosion that marks the 'beginning of the end' to a powerful spell enthralling the West. It was the delusion which Ron Chernow, the acclaimed U.S. presidential historian, gave credence, as he contemptuously dismissed America's "topsy-turvy moment" as purely ephemeral, and a "surreal interlude in American life": No longer can it be said that there is one 'normal'. Win or lose the White House, Red Trumpism remains as 'President' for half America.

Biden, by contrast, served as the prospect for Restoration -- a return to a hallowed consensus in American politics -- to a reassuring 'sanity' of facts, science and truth . Biden, it was hoped, would be the agency over-lording a crushing electoral landslide that would terminate irrevocably Trump's rude interruption of the 'normal'. Biden supporters were rallied, Mike Lind, the American academic and author has observed , around the idea of America moving toward a 'managed' society -- based on 'science' -- that would be essentially finessed and controlled by a managerial, expert class.

Over time, Lind suggests, American society would begin to depart more, and more easily, from its republican roots, through a process already underway: via attempts to alter the Constitutional order, and other rules, to bring about a change in the way America is governed.

The notion however, of what America -- as Idea -- now constitutes, has fractured into two tectonic plates, moving apart in very different directions -- and likely to move even further apart as each 'plate' remains convinced that 'it won' -- and the sweetness of victory has been stolen.

The fracturing of the 'One Normal', by contrast, provides some kind of respite to much of the globe.

The fact remains that the election has produced a result in which it is abundantly clear that one half of the American electorate precisely voted to oust the other half. It is gridlock -- with the Supreme Court and Senate in the hands of one party, and the House of Representatives and White House (possibly) in the hands of the other. As Glenn Greenwald warns :

No matter what the final result, there will be substantial doubts about its legitimacy by one side or the other, perhaps both. And no deranged conspiracy thinking is required for that. An electoral system suffused with this much chaos, error, protracted outcomes and seemingly inexplicable reversals will sow doubt and distrust even among the most rational citizens.

Though the maths and maps suggests Biden will likely reach 270 Electoral votes, the old saying 'It ain't over 'till it's over', holds true. The electoral vote scenarios in the key 'swing states' would only apply if there is no litigation, fraud or theft. However all three are in play -- If you are stuffing the ballot box, you first wait to see what the regular vote is, so that you know how many votes you 'need' ( mathematical anomalies aside) to push your candidate over the top. Trump, somewhat rashly, gave out the GOP vote calculations at 02.30 on Wednesday, and hey-presto, loads of absentee ballots suddenly arrived at certain polling stations at around 04.00. That seems to have happened in Wisconsin, where over 100,000 Biden votes appeared seemingly out of nowhere on a flash drive delivered by hand from a Democratic district. That put Biden ahead in Wisconsin -- but litigation is in process. Likewise, it appears that a huge "absentee ballot" dump appeared in Michigan that heavily favored Biden.

This is just the beginning of a new and more uncertain phase that could go on for weeks . It may be that ultimately Congress will have to certify and make the final determination in late January. Meanwhile, there are some things we know with much higher certainty: The Republican majority in the Senate may hold until the 2024 election. So, even if Biden wins, his agenda will not hold through 2024.

A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. Whomsoever is certified by Congress cannot truthfully say they represent 'the nation'. Consensus is fractured, and it is difficult to see any leadership that can bring Americans together as a 'united people'.

"There is not a single important cultural, religious, political or social force that is pulling Americans together more than it is pushing us apart," David French notes in a new book Divided We Fall: America's Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation . French -- an anti-Trump conservative -- argues that America's divisions are so great, and the political system so poorly designed to handle them, that secession may eventually be the result: "If we keep pushing people and pushing people and pushing people, you cannot assume that they won't break", he writes. (A 2018 poll found that nearly a quarter of each party -- Democrat and Republican -- characterized the opposing party as "evil").

An ideological split, and the concomitantly contested America as Idea has huge geo-political implications, reaching well beyond America itself -- and principally for Europe's élites . European leaders did not see it coming when Trump was elected in 2016. They misjudged Brexit. And this year, they misread U.S. politics once again. They yearned for a Biden win, and they (still) fail to see the connection between the popular rebellion of Red under Mr. Trump, and the angry protests occurring across Europe against lockdown.

Separating tectonic plates -- more strategically -- usually signal a kind of dualism that betokens civil conflict. In other words, their separation and moving apart turns into an ideological struggle for the nature of society and its institutional fabric.

Historian, and former War College Professor, Mike Vlahos warns (echoing Lind), that, "there is, here: more of a hidden -- and thus in a sense, occult struggle -- by which over time, societies begin to depart more, and more easily, from their roots. The western dominant élites presently are seeking to cement their hold over society [moving towards a 'managed' society]: To have full control over the direction of society, and, of course, a framework of rule that protects their wealth."

"Quite to the surprise of everyone, and given that the Republicans are being represented by a billionaire who has a great many friends in Manhattan -- the Wall Street donors to the two campaigns, outnumber Trump's donors for Biden by 5-to-1".

Why, Vlahos asks, would Wall Street invest in a man -- Biden -- and in a Party, ostensibly seeking to move America toward this 'managed' progressive society? Is it because they are convinced of a need radically to restructure the world's economy and geopolitical relations? Is this then Vlahos' occult struggle?

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Many of the élite hold that we are at that monumental inflection point at this moment -- In a nutshell, their narrative is simply this: the planet is already economically and demographically over-extended; the infinite economic expansion model is bust; and the global debt and government entitlement expenditure bubble too, is set to pop at the same moment.

Mike Vlahos notes that in a curious way this American story mirrors that of ancient Rome in the last century of the Republic -- with on the one hand, the élite Roman class, and on the other, the Populares , as Red Americans' equivalent:

"This is in fact the dual story of Rome in the last century of the Republic, and it tracks very well -- with the transformation going on today [in the U.S.] -- and it is a transformation The society which emerged at the end of the Roman Revolution, and civil war had too, a totally dominant élite class.

"This was a new world, in which the great landowners, with their latifundia [the slave-land source of wealth], who had been the 'Big Men' leading the various factions in the civil wars, became the senatorial archons that dominated Roman life for the next five centuries -- while the People, the Populares, were ground into a passive -- not helpless -- but generally dependent and non-participating element of Roman governance: This sapped away at the creative life of Rome, and eventually led to its coming apart.

" today American inequality is as great as in the period right before the French Revolution, and is mirrored in what was happening to Rome in that long century of transformation. The problem we have right now, and which is going to make this revolution more intense, is I think, the cynical conclusion and agenda of Blue to just leave behind the Americans they do not need [in the New Economy] -- which is to say all of Red America, and to put them into a situation of hardship and marginalization, where they cannot coalesce, to form a rival -- as it were -- Popular Front.

"What I think what we are seeing here [in the U.S.] is profound: American society -- emerging from this passage, is going to be completely different. And frankly, it already feels different. It already feels -- as it has felt for the past four years -- that we are in a rolling civil war norm now, in which deep societal strife is now the normal way in which we handle transfers of power. Issues will be [momentarily] resolved, with the path of society [painfully] staked out through violent conflict. That is likely to be our path for decades ahead.

"The problem with that in the shorter term, is that there is still enough of the nation aroused and ready to fight this process. The problem: Can the last energies of the Old Republic still be harnessed against this seemingly inevitable, transformation?"

A 'fourth industrial revolution' is the only way by which to 'square this circle', according to this mindset. The Reset is purposefully aimed to disrupt all areas of life, albeit on a planetary scale. Shock therapy, as it were, to change the way we humans think of ourselves, and our relationship with the world . The Great Reset looks to a supply-side 'miracle', achieved through full-spectrum automation and robotics. A world where the money is digital; the food is lab-grown; where everything is counted and controlled by giant monopolies; and everyday existence is micromanaged by ever-monitoring, ever-nudging AI that registers thoughts and feelings before the people even get a chance to make those thoughts.


LVrunner , 2 hours ago

Traitorous Mittens Romney took to Twitter to congratulate sleepy joe today. He’s such an epic douchebag!

PGR88 , 2 hours ago

He reminds me of some kind of aging gay Mormon **** star

LVrunner , 2 hours ago

His kid was in business with bidens, not much of surprise. Just disgusted.

Roacheforque , 1 hour ago

I find it amazing that pundits can describe the detailed evidence of the fraudulent activities of democratic operatives, along with the understanding that no such activities took part on the republican front, and simply dismiss this legal and moral contrast with a broad stroke finding that "the nation is divided".

Simply. *******. Amazing.

Who writes this ****?

I am no Trump sycophant, but the contrast in "division" is law abiding vs. fraudulent, anarchy vs civilized order, constitutional vs. totalitarian. Trump's personality flaws are immense, but I contend that a solid majority of Americans voted for president in accordance to the red wave downvote, and that a gross misrepresentation of living human Biden voters does not constitute an equal division.

Thank God!

Fizzy Head , 2 hours ago

Funny how there is no evidence of fraud with the Dems, but it was all Russian meddling in the last election...

#palletsofballotsisfraud

Chemical_Engineer_IT_Analyst , 2 hours ago

Remember Republicans you are the ones who have the real power!

It's not a good idea to bully the productive class. Without the conservative workers the country would starve in the cold and dark. Who are not needed are the parasitic class of politicians, bureaucrats, lobbyists, Deep State workers, incompetent teachers and Marxist professors. And we would all be better off without Facebook and Twitter. We also don't need NBC CNN, ABC, and other alphabet media, Washington Post, New York Times and other propaganda outlets.

SurfingUSA , 2 hours ago

Biden, by contrast, served as the prospect for Restoration – a return to a hallowed consensus in American politics – to a reassuring ‘sanity’ of facts, science and truth .

Give me a break. He served as a prospect of a Chinese sock puppet.

not dead yet , 1 hour ago

Selected facts, selected science, selected truth. Better known as cherry picking. If that isn't working turn fiction into fact and truth to legitimize junk science. Better known as man made climate change.

tk8565 , 2 hours ago

If you like your fraud, you can keep your fraud.

This will happen repeatedly from every election on, as they learn and improve.

If it isnt fixed now in court it will never be.

Election laws must be fixed.

If unsuccessful the only plan left is to ((censored))

ClusterF , 2 hours ago

No thank you, and yes I care damn well enough to fight about it. The founders rebelled over a miniscule tea tax for gods sake!!!! This is about subversion of the entire race to a globalist over class.

pluto the dog , 1 hour ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=730452901154616&_rdr

George Galloway says it's a COUP.

This will upset a lot of leftards

Barnacles , 1 hour ago

the idea of America moving toward a ‘managed’ society – based on ‘science’ – that would be essentially finessed and controlled by a managerial, expert class.

Managed society sounds a heck of a lot like communism. That is, one-party "management" of people and resources by elites unaccountable to the people via free and fair elections.

ChetRoman , 2 hours ago

"Biden, by contrast, served as the prospect for Restoration – a return to a hallowed consensus in American politics – to a reassuring ‘sanity’ of facts, science and truth "

Who writes this horse****? Biden was a senile placeholder for the next puppet of the "ruling class" or "deep state" that has only contempt for working Americans, the deplorables. Biden will formalize Big Tech's and MSM domination of what we can say and think. They have censored 95% of the media to keep the public from seeing how thoroughly corrupt and incompetent Biden is. Trump has his faults but he is the only one, in at least the last 30 years, that even mentioned the downward spiral of the working Americans. What we have is a Color Revolution and the Bolsheviks are a major part of it.

Patmos , 1 hour ago

Technocracy is just another form of tyranny, and once the global economy inevitably collapses technocracy will only end up proving the saying that when the blind follow the blind they both end up in a ditch.

Deplorable , 1 hour ago

I'm actually happy that Biden won and will continue with the lockdown ********. It keeps me working from home until I decide to officially retire. As a govt contractor I can get away with working less than half the time while still getting paid for a 40 hour workday.

Added bonus, I can drink beer all day long and day trade on the side.

hoytmonger , 2 hours ago

Nothing will change with Biden as President,

Except for the rhetoric.

Nexus789 , 2 hours ago

They will spend their time enriching themselves. Biden, according to Forbes is worth ten million. How does a career politician do that.

RozKo , 2 hours ago

A world where the money is digital; the food is lab-grown; where everything is counted and controlled by giant monopolies; and everyday existence is micromanaged by ever-monitoring, ever-nudging AI that registers thoughts and feelings before the people even get a chance to make those thoughts.

Oh boy, lots of fun, maximum security prison with a twist, you'll be getting screwed by robot bubba and he be in your head too.

Onthebeach6 , 2 hours ago

Rupert Murdoch said a couple of months ago that he expected Trump to lose in a landslide.

Looks like he worked overtime to achieve this outcome.

3-fingered_chemist , 2 hours ago

Trump should just give the Left what it wants. Total lockdown of the country until we have 6 months straight of zero cases of coronavirus. That means no new President can be sworn in until that time is reached. Have fun! The next two years will be hilarious as the Dems further implode. You already can see it with Pelosi wanting to be Speaker again. The Progressives will think that they have some mandate, but the Old Guard is going to throw them under the bus yet again. ANTIFA and BLM will be burning down the Dem cities not because of Trump but because they aren’t getting their way. Biden won’t even be allowed to make decisions, but the Progressives won’t be calling the shots either. This will be the de facto Hillary Presidency. The irony is that Mitch is likely to be the most powerful person in Washington.

monero_123 , 2 hours ago

Even though I do agree with some conservative principals, I probably lean more blue than red overall.

Unfortunately, I still don't get the opinion on getting mad at the "blue" states for making some of these very commentators' life worse. The computer you are using, the phone you have in your pocket, the internet you are browsing, the webhost that hosts Zerohedge, etc, etc is all from the advancements of companies/talent that are in those states.

But, at the same time, the more people are angry at the invisible boogeyman, the easier it is for myself to advance in society while others just sit and complain.

OK Boomer , 16 seconds ago

It's not that complicated. The US has had for many decades an entrenched "Deep State" running much of the govt. Republican and Democrat parties are the two hands of this Deep State. When an establishment Democrat president replaces an establishment Republican (or vice versa), no actual power is transferred. It's just the Deep State passing the baton from one hand to the other. The enduring power is in the un-elected govt. The process of electing a president is normally just a symbolic ritual which serves to generate consent by allowing the masses to feel as though they actually chose their govt.

Trump was the unicorn president. He was never supposed to be elected. And even as president his power has been very limited. The Justice Dept, CIA, FBI, all conspired against him. The only prosecutions by "his" Justice Department were against members of his own administration. The purpose of the US president is to act as a figurehead and a rubber stamp for the wishes of the dominant un-elected govt. Biden fits the bill perfectly--a complete non-entity.

N2M , 1 hour ago

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[Nov 08, 2020] Was it an election, or a coup detat?

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Moreover, Biden administration probably will quickly abandon all its election promises in domestic policy area and will kick the neoliberal can down the road. After all Biden is a classic neoliberal and he is as far from Warren and Sanders, as one can get. ..."
"... And legitimacy of election is much bigger question than the silly question about who among two factions of neoliberal oligarchy won. Because this is an important factor that holds the society together. ..."
"... A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. Whomsoever is certified by Congress cannot truthfully say they represent 'the nation'. Consensus is fractured, and it is difficult to see any leadership that can bring Americans together as a 'united people'. ..."
"... If Dems really abuse ballot harvesting to the extent Trump supporters suspect, that will be very detrimental to the USA as a society. And that's much bigger negative factor than any positive effect from Biden's victory. ..."
"... Marc Elias , the lawyer for Dems in Nevada, efforts to expand mail-in voting and revoke prohibition of ballot harvesting in Nevada look really suspicious. ..."
"... Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was some kind of a "Plan B" already decided on before the election. ..."
"... When you fill up the mail in ballot for your demented grandmother this is a fraud though on a micro scale. But multiply it by thousand. Do it in nursing homes. Then do it in community centers in minority areas and ghettos for people who would never vote. You incentivize them and twist their arms. This is no different than ballot stuffing but impossible to be proven as a fraud, yet everybody knows about it... ..."
"... While I do not believe that election fraud changed the outcome (see above), the real question now is "Was it an election, or a coup detat?" ..."
Nov 08, 2020 | angrybearblog.com

likbez,

Run75441,

You are simply naive.

I am firmly in "anybody but Trump" camp. IMHO Trump lost 5% of his share among white male voters. Because he betrayed his election promises to them. That's why he lost. As for Trump personally, all else are details.

But I see huge issues with how 2020 elections was conducted. And not only I.

You need also to understand that the actual difference between Biden administration and Trump administration will be positive, but pretty small. Meet the New Boss. Same as the Old Boss And in some areas on foreign policy (Ukraine) Biden will be definitely worse. Another negative factor is that Biden victory legitimized Russia-gate. Which means that his win legitimized neo-McCarthyism.

Moreover, Biden administration probably will quickly abandon all its election promises in domestic policy area and will kick the neoliberal can down the road. After all Biden is a classic neoliberal and he is as far from Warren and Sanders, as one can get.

But all this are gory details.

What really matter now is whether the elections legitimized the return to power of globalists, or this is yet another scam similar to Russia-gate.

And legitimacy of election is much bigger question than the silly question about who among two factions of neoliberal oligarchy won. Because this is an important factor that holds the society together.

That's why all color revolutions start with the frontal assault on the legitimacy of elections in the first place. Now Trump campaign will be doing that. And this is hugely negative. As Alastair Crooke noted:

A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. Whomsoever is certified by Congress cannot truthfully say they represent 'the nation'. Consensus is fractured, and it is difficult to see any leadership that can bring Americans together as a 'united people'.

If Dems really abuse ballot harvesting to the extent Trump supporters suspect, that will be very detrimental to the USA as a society. And that's much bigger negative factor than any positive effect from Biden's victory.

For example in Nevada many workers moved out of state due to the collapse of casino industry. But formally you cannot vote if you moved out of the state over 30 days prior to the balloting. Absent of a system of authentication of residency and identification, we have essentially a honor system – an approach that no casino would allow even at the nickel slots section. In this sense Marc Elias , the lawyer for Dems in Nevada, efforts to expand mail-in voting and revoke prohibition of ballot harvesting in Nevada look really suspicious.

Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was some kind of a "Plan B" already decided on before the election.

When you fill up the mail in ballot for your demented grandmother this is a fraud though on a micro scale. But multiply it by thousand. Do it in nursing homes. Then do it in community centers in minority areas and ghettos for people who would never vote. You incentivize them and twist their arms. This is no different than ballot stuffing but impossible to be proven as a fraud, yet everybody knows about it...

Charges of ballot harvesting are extremely difficult to prove, but indirect signs suggests that it did have place much in Chicago major Daley fashion.

While I do not believe that election fraud changed the outcome (see above), the real question now is "Was it an election, or a coup detat?"

[Nov 08, 2020] Seems like COVID is real when it's convenient: all it took to stage Biden win and the pandemic is over

Where's the social distancing? Why aren't @CNN anchors livid about no social distancing? Bunch of hypocrites.
Nov 08, 2020 | www.rt.com

A street party erupted in front of the White House after Joe Biden declared himself the victor in the electoral contest with Donald Trump on Saturday, with similar mass acts of jubilation popping up in cities around the country.

Footage shows a sea of people, crammed like sardines, singing in front of the president's Washington, DC residence. In New York City, merrymakers danced and chanted in Washington Square Park. On the other side of the country, there was "fireworks, champagne and dancing in the streets of LA," the Los Angeles Times reported , as people toasted the projected president-elect.

Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins

The crowd outside the White House celebrating Joe Biden's projected victory is blaring YMCA -- the song President Trump closed out his latest rallies with.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1325153181827911680

[Nov 08, 2020] Note on "Great Reset." Is this now a codeword for coup d'état ?

Nov 08, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Faustus B. , 2 hours ago

The end of days as described by most major religions sounds very much like the Great Reset. Wars and famines and then fake miracles and fake saviors.

pluto the dog , 1 hour ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=730452901154616&_rdr

George Galloway says it's a COUP. This will upset a lot of leftards

[Nov 07, 2020] For every emotionally triggered simpleton so gloriously giddy over Trump's demise and Biden's rise: meet the new boss same as the old boss

Notable quotes:
"... I am amazed with American engineers. Russian ones managed only to preserve Lenin's corpse. American ones made their corpse speak. ..."
"... But listen to him describe the voter fraud. No stutter or slurring. He carefully picked his words. https://www.brighteon.com/d3c75a7b-96d3-474a-aac6-009110517901 ..."
Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Now that the American media have sanctified Joe Biden as President-Elect, despite ongoing lawsuits, recounts, and no state certifications, many of the world's leaders were quick to virtue-signal their support for the Harris administration.

"Kamala Harris is absolutely prepared to be president." Christine Pelosi, Chair of the California Democratic Party Women's Caucus, says the vice president-elect Kamala Harris is in a strong position to be the Democrats next presidential nominee in 2024.

While "declaring victory" was abhorrent just 24 hours ago, it is now apparently okay among social media giants as massive super-spreader-events swarm across the nation to celebrate the end of the virus, the end of oppression, the end of racism, the end of hitler, the end of white supremacy, and the beginning of a new blue dawn... or something like that.

We suspect Biden's address will be full of the usual "unifying" themes , just as his earlier statement was:

My fellow Americans - I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris. In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America. With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation. It's time for America to unite. And to heal . We are the United States of America. And there's nothing we can't do, if we do it together.

The pre-victory-speech warm-up...


naughty.boy , 21 minutes ago

I am amazed with American engineers. Russian ones managed only to preserve Lenin's corpse. American ones made their corpse speak.

Billy the Poet , 20 minutes ago

There are still a few glitches in the system.

Biden: "I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize trunalimunumaprzure."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV5HbLI_TdM

Thucydides , 13 minutes ago

But listen to him describe the voter fraud. No stutter or slurring. He carefully picked his words. https://www.brighteon.com/d3c75a7b-96d3-474a-aac6-009110517901

naughty.boy , 2 minutes ago

Lol, at least we won't lack of entertainment the next Few year, if he becomes POTUS

[Nov 07, 2020] Victor Davis Hanson - US Election 2020: Think November 22, 1963 minus the bullets.

Highly recommended!
Starting from 48 interesting information about US network hamsters (he call them drone class)
Nov 07, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Zero 2 Wealth , 2 hours ago

Think November 22, 1963 minus the bullets. The Deep State employs mainstream media to get you to believe whatever convoluted story they want to sell you. Sleepy Joe has a holster full of magic bullets.

[Nov 07, 2020] No Surrender -- At Least Not Yet by DECLAN LEARY

Nov 07, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The old guard wants us to lay down and take it, but this election is far for over. It's time to fight, and Trump is our man.

Mitt Romney would have conceded by now. John McCain would have conceded Tuesday night. George Bush would have called it quits, and then invaded Iraq for good measure. Thank God in heaven for Donald J. Trump.

Speaking late Thursday from the White House, President Trump predicted that, if all legal votes (and only legal votes) were counted, they would show that he has won the election. Over the past few days, former Vice President Biden has consistently made similar claims, without the caveat that votes must be legally cast. As has become the norm when conservatives voice concerns over a questionable election, the president's observations and forecast were quickly "fact-checked" by the mainstream media and censored by Big Tech platforms -- while Biden's went unchecked.

The facts, we are told, show a clear Biden victory. Any suggestion to the contrary, any attempt to investigate reports of Democratic misconduct, is dismissed as right-wing conspiracizing, or the petulant protestations of a sorry bunch of sore losers. (Russiagate, it seems, has been memory-holed.) The decent thing, they say, would be concession -- take the numbers at face value and call it a day. To his great credit, it looks like Trump will do no such thing.

This election has essentially come down to six states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Of these six, only Arizona and Nevada really remain question marks. Michigan and Wisconsin have already been called for Biden by most sources, and Pennsylvania and Georgia are expected to follow close behind. Even if Arizona and Nevada both went for Trump in the end -- the latter seems likely, while the former is a long shot -- victory in the other four would secure Biden a comfortable electoral college win at 289. It can hardly be ignored that the major blue cities in each of these states -- Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee -- are all dominated by strong, old-school, Tammany-style machines. It can hardly be forgotten that urban Democratic machines are not exactly known for the integrity of their elections.

This is the question being asked by Trump and other right-wingers: not whether some massive conspiracy has been orchestrated at the national level, with Biden pulling the strings from a basement in Delaware, but whether the substantial misconduct that has long defined city political machines is influencing outcomes in these four key locations. This is not a question on which we can play it safe and civil. We need a full court press to get answers from people who have shown themselves unwilling to provide them.

Pay attention to the mainstream argument: Trump's claims have not been conclusively proven, and so the mere suggestion is considered far beyond the pale. For many, the president's assertion that 1) misconduct has been observed on a large scale in all of these key locations and 2) this misconduct will be challenged in court, is the conclusive proof they need that we are sliding into the dictatorship they predicted four years ago. The concerns are rebuked with the usual dismissals -- unfounded, unproven, unsubstantiated, "without evidence" -- and the narrative that Biden is the clear winner tightens its grip with every word out of every anchor's mouth. But more than enough preliminary evidence has been provided in each of these places to justify -- no, demand -- investigation.

The fundamental reason all these claims remain "unsubstantiated" is that the very people who reject them on this basis are the ones who are supposed to be substantiating them -- and they have absolutely, entirely abandoned this basic duty. Anyone who tries to look into the evidence is denounced as a kook or (in Trump's case) a caudillo. We can hardly expect an honest accounting of what's happened in the blue cities when talking about what's happened in the blue cities has suddenly become the eighth deadly sin.

This is why -- besides his unique perspective and approach drawing together the broadest coalition a Republican has built in sixty years -- Trump is actually the perfect man for the moment. The entire media establishment is aligned to declare a Biden victory prematurely, with no intention of investigating election inconsistencies. Local and state governments in the places that matter are hardly more reliable -- Michigan Attorney General Jocelyn Benson is an alumna of the SPLC, and Pennsylvania AG Josh Shapiro promised four days before the election that Trump would not win the state. The docile functionaries and milquetoast figureheads of the pre-Trump GOP could not have handled the fight ahead -- and likely would have run from it.

In fact, we know that they would have, because that's exactly what they're urging Trump to do now. If you Google "trump+thursday+speech" or any similar query, it's going to take a whole lot of digging to actually find the speech Trump delivered on Thursday. What you will find instead are abundant "fact-checks" of the speech that don't actually check any of the facts, and page upon page of ritual denunciations by the chattering classes.

These denunciations are hardly limited to the left-wingers behind the anchors' desks at every major network. CNN is proudly touting a clip of Rick Santorum, former Republican senator from PA and current senior political analyst at that esteemed news source, expressing his shock and disappointment that the president would call into question certain aspects of the election. Santorum voiced his hope that "Republicans will stand up at this moment and say what needs to be said about the integrity of our election." (The irony is apparently lost on him.)

Similarly, Scott Walker, who was one of the first to exit the Republican primary field in 2016 and lost his reelection bid for governor of Wisconsin in 2018 to Democrat Tony Evers, has issued a number of tweets insisting that a recount -- which the Trump campaign has already called for -- would be pointless. He has observed that, in normal elections, recounts have done very little to alter tallies. There's no sense to this line: this is not a normal election. Delays in ballot counting alone are enough to cause concern. Add to that the occasional full stops, after which huge quantities of Biden ballots conveniently appear. Add to that Wisconsin's level of voter turnout -- not over 100%, as some online rumors earlier suggested, but still near unbelievably high. It would be the farthest thing from a surprise if a more careful inspection really did shake things up this time around.

The same is true in Michigan, where Biden has made similarly stunning gains in witching-hour ballot dumps. On top of that, the transposition of a few thousand Trump votes to Biden in Antrim County has now been chalked up to a glitch in the tabulation software -- software that happens to be used in 46 other counties. We now know there is a problem with the way the votes are counted, and even the slightest chance that even the smallest repetition of that glitch has occurred elsewhere demands the strictest scrutiny be applied to the Michigan vote.

All this and more can be said for Pennsylvania and Georgia, the two states most vital to the president's reelection. Pennsylvania in particular is playing fast and loose with mail-in ballots, and dubious rules changes need to be challenged in court. Philadelphia has a reputation for machine-style corruption that puts Daley-era Chicago to shame. Election workers there have also repeatedly blocked GOP poll watchers from observing the process they are legally entitled to oversee. The same thing is happening in Detroit, where cardboard has actually been placed over the windows to prevent people from seeing inside the central counting location. If you have nothing to hide, right?

The president has every reason not to take the narrative at face value. This doesn't mean we throw out the election, and it doesn't mean we're undermining democracy. It means we need to exhaust every avenue and turn over every stone. Everything that can be brought before a court needs to be, and every ballot that raises red flags needs to be explained. Put the screws to every machine operative from Milwaukee to Atlanta, and make sure every word holds up.

Somebody needs to give a very good answer as to why the number of ballots left to count in Fulton County keeps changing every time we go to sleep -- and changing by margins that boggle the mind. Force the people who run the machines to speak, and see how long their story lasts. ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Declan Leary is the Collegiate Network Fellow at The American Conservative and a graduate of John Carroll University. His work has been published at National Review , Crisis, and elsewhere.


Matthew Maheras a day ago • edited

The fundamental reason all these claims remain "unsubstantiated" is that the very people who reject them on this basis are the ones who are supposed to be substantiating them -- and they have absolutely, entirely abandoned this basic duty.

This is such a bizarre sentence. Why would government officials, investigators or journalists or whoever be duty bound to substantiate the existence voter fraud. They've basically done the opposite actually, and debunked the claims. Nearly every single case of claimed voter fraud has been shown to be inaccurate, a lie, simply misleading and/or a misunderstanding.

"Suitcases" of ballots? Actually it's photography equipment of local news broadcasts. Poll watchers getting "pushed out" of wards? Because PA law says you are legally only allowed a set amount of pre-certified watchers in each precinct, who must wear face masks. "Dead voters" appearing in ballot rolls? Could exist, doesn't matter though because votes are crosschecked with databases, and even if you died on the way home from dropping off your mail-in ballot , your vote will be deleted, let alone if you're some potential fraud voter who died 30 years ago.

In fact, here's a good nice long Twitter thread explaining most of the major accusations flying around social media:

November 5, 2020
Matthew Maheras Matthew Maheras a day ago • edited

I'm just going to reply to my own very long post with an addendum:

The example of Detroit is given in the article as if papering the windows over was some heinous thing. The reason why we have to protect the identity of poll workers is intimidation. We already have a situation in Fulton County, GA where some enterprising conservatives have doxxed a poll worker and actually sent the poor man into hiding.

His license plate number was posted onto Twitter, and he is now hiding at a friend's house, because conservative activists falsely accused him of throwing out ballots.

November 6, 2020
faithandhonor Matthew Maheras 7 hours ago • edited

You are a liar. You obviously have never actually WORKED an election. I have. Several, in fact.

I have personally witnessed ballot fraud on a large scale, coupled with utter incompetence. Palm Beach county, 2012.

I oversaw the correction of 60,000 "defective" absentee ballots. Each correction table was to be staffed with 1 Dem, 1 Repub, who cross-checked each others work. The corrupt Supervisor of Elections harassed and threatened Republican workers and monitors. Nasty as hell. Corrupt as hell. AND SHE NEVER FOLLOWED HER OWN INSTRUCTIONS, AND WHEN CHALLENGED POLITELY, SHE THREATENED TO THROW ALL REPUBLICANS OUT OF THE ELECTIONS SITE.

I PERSONALLY witnessed CORRECTED ABSENTEE BALLOTS taken to the back where the voting TABULATORS were, and watched as each ballot was removed from the box, examined, and some were thrown in the trash can. And I had seen a lot of ballots with Romney marked for President, with a straight Dem ticket down-ballot races all Dem. This is a BLUE county.

I reported this, and nothing was done. Cowardly Republicans do this... Nothing. I often wonder how many other blue cou ties have threatened Republican poll watchers & workers.

Your slander of decent people means NOTHING, except that you are a liar of gigantic proportions. Go over to Daily Kos, where you can fellowship with your vile compatriot scumbags.

Ammo Alamo Matthew Maheras 21 minutes ago

I support the view that it is entirely possible for a county full of good people to lean hard against the "other side" in a hot disputed election. In 2014 and 2016 the polling place was a strange church miles away; the workers there had a hand-lettered sign posted that demanded driver licenses as ID, even though State law did not demand that form of ID alone. This year I was one of the people who were locked out of the voting process; the details do not matter, but it happened, and I refused to kowtow to the system to get my registration card renewed. My county went 80% for Trump, so in fact my lone vote would not have mattered for much anyway.

No doubt some people were denied the right to vote. Historically, the right to vote is denied blacks and latinos more often than whites. But to make a blanket claim of a stolen election, just the President, mind you, is an extraordinary claim that demands extraordinary proof. Trump does not even claim that any of those down ballot Repubs, candidates who did just fine for themselves, were denied votes. Just him.

It's a perfect storm of narcissism denied.

sdkeller72 faithandhonor 2 hours ago

If the democrats rigged the election then why didn't they give themselves the Senate? Why did they lose seats in the House? And why did they not take back a single statehouse?

Trump lost because the DNC opened their arms to the Bush-era neocons from the Lincoln Project. They're all republicans that voted for Biden and down ticket republicans and now Biden will be putting them in his cabinet. If the election was rigged then you can thank the those republicans for betraying their party, but the DNC is incapable of rigging anything without help from the other side.

Brother John the Deplorable sdkeller72 an hour ago • edited

Your mistake is conflating "Republicans" and "republican voters." Not the same thing. Trump was sent to DC to deal, among other things with the "Republicans."

Why didn't they give themselves the senate? A couple of hundred thousand ballots with a 100% tally for one side were manufactured to influence one election. Only one really mattered. Several million Americans were impoverished and terrorized all year long to ensure this result.

In any case, they don't need the Senate -- the "Republicans" will simply roll over. They always do. Cocaine Mitch is already signaling his intent to do so.

sdkeller72 Brother John the Deplorable 43 minutes ago

I saw his spokesperson the other day said any Biden cabinet picks will have to be approved by him. Doesn't sound like Mitch is rolling over at all. We're going to see the Lincoln Project repugs (Bush era neocons) in his cabinet and giving the MIC a seat at the table again.

Just another 4 years of Bush/Obama policies. I think we can agree that both sides lost this election and that's sadly not new either.

Maybe its time the for "fringes" to unite against the center.

sdkeller72 Brother John the Deplorable 18 minutes ago

Speaking as a progressive myself, I dont feel like we united as much as we stayed home. No one in the 2016 election was representing anything we wanted. The only thing that united us was our hatred of Hillary. ;) hahaha

We can't unify under either established party. I'm talking about really uniting and taking both out with a real populist platform (healthcare, ending our wars and getting money out of politics), all things most Americans are in favor of. What do we have to lose at this point? There's something horribly broken with our government when every 4 years both sides are left frustrated when the will of the people is never represented in our supposed representative democracy. We gotta try something different.

SJE Matthew Maheras a day ago

Fox News has aired video of certified poll observers in philly being prevented from entering polling places. but keep running interference- its obvious you wouldn't care if you KNEW fraud had taken place...

George Annie from Alaska 10 hours ago

Other Murdoch-owned news companies have done much worse! In England, his reporters spoofed a call from a dead girl's phone, giving her parents false hope. They bugged and bribed politicians, pretty ugly stuff. Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

tz SJE an hour ago

Fox News is a subsidiary NewsCorp, peddler of tabloid propaganda , promulgated by an Australian plutocrat Rupert Murdoch, who is no friend of the USA. He has been ripping us apart now for decades for his profit, power, and ego. He has made the GOP his b**ch. Note how recently he has turned on Trump (not that I mind).

Brother John the Deplorable Matthew Maheras 3 hours ago
Why would government officials, investigators or journalists or whoever be duty bound to the existence voter fraud.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Those who claim to "speak truth to power" have as their function the investigation and reporting of charges of voter fraud.

Instead, they are nothing but rank partisans, licking the government hand that feeds them, and simply memory-holing anything that might damage their boy or be thought helpful to their opponents. Liars and frauds, every last one.

Matthew Maheras Brother John the Deplorable 2 hours ago • edited
simply memory-holing anything that might damage their boy or be thought helpful to their opponents.

Whatever you want to claim about lefties with "TDS" or whatever you want to label them, this sentence is literally a word-for-word description that applies to Trump supporters.

Just endless ranks of simpletons who will thrust off every piece of evidence and correction to their accusations.

Write out a comment to debunk things being misconstrued, twisted or lied about, and Trumpists will waste your time blathering and ranting on about "rank partisans" without even a hint or lick of irony and self-reflection about how their entire post is actually about themselves.

Brother John the Deplorable Matthew Maheras an hour ago

I can just as easily dismiss you the same way, but the idea that FB, Twitter, CNN, and yes -- even Fox -- aren't nakedly partisan is ridiculous nonsense. The least you could do is pretend to understand what got Trump elected in the first place.

sdkeller72 Brother John the Deplorable an hour ago

Wall St and the MIC work hand and hand with our corporate media, an industry that's dominated by 6 corporations. They're not liberal nor conservative, they are only motivated by money and power and keeping the population divided so that they dont unite and come for them all.

Ammo Alamo sdkeller72 6 minutes ago

One only has to look at the Citizens United Supreme Court decision to see how far down the US has fallen. Now a corporation is a person? If that is so, can't they get 20-to-life when they kill someone? Can't they get the death penalty? NO, they can't; but they can get all the good things that come from that ruling, without any of the negatives at all.

Ammo Alamo Brother John the Deplorable 9 minutes ago

Not every last reporter is a rank partisan, but many of them prefer the easy route to a paycheck. Look up Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Tom Engelhardt, and others like them. There are honest historians like Howard Zinn and Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz. There are also honest whistleblowers who get a bad rep, like Chelsea Manning, Eric Snowden and Julian Assange. There are still a few journalists of the old school in the world. But they have to be careful less they find themselves charged with treason under an old law, and spend the balance of their lives locked down 23 1/2 hours per day in a tiny cell in a US SuperMax prison.

Christine a day ago • edited

Excellent article. I am very happy Trump is pushing to open up this election to legal review, public inspection, recounts, bipartisan review of the ballots, process violations. We were supposed to be patient and wait for the count, why not the recount. What is the hurry. If he lost, fine, I want to know that, not just trust anti-Trump, Democratic activist officials telling me that. There are so many oddities - the Biden surges coming after down time, always so conveniently. Software turning Republican votes into Democrat votes. The dead voting. Blocking access to GOP observers. Given the closeness of the results in the key states that are determining the outcome, it is not that hard to turn things one way or the other.

dstraws Ammo Alamo 6 hours ago

The state legislators decide when the mail in ballots are counted. For Florida, Oregon, Colorado they are counted when they come in and are verified as legal votes. For Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin the legislature decided they could not start processing the ballots until election day, thus it is impossible get a count of those ballots before the in person voting was counted.

Annie from Alaska Pete Barbeaux 13 hours ago

Barr is asking, "how many people who sent late-arriving mail-in ballots also showed up to vote on election day?"

It matters because it's the law we all agreed to, and you need to respect the process to retain the other side's confidence, which your side has not done.

But one thing which may be behind the law is these 100%-Biden ballot dumps that don't vote for congress. Do you see what's behind Barr's question? Mail-in ballots make ballot stuffing almost trivial because you can just dump them into the mail. The one problem is that each envelope has to have a registered voter's name on it, and that name is compared to who voted in person. To get the mail-in vote counted, and to avoid suspicious patterns, you need to put a name on there that didn't vote in person. That's much easier to do after the polls close, and you have collected all the signature books to start doing the mail-in count.

Kerr Avon Annie from Alaska 13 hours ago

Well Barr then needs to turn these questions into official DOJ actions doesn't he - When do we think the DOJ is going to start ?

IanDakar SJE 20 hours ago

Georgia goes a step farther. Even if it's post marked before election, if it gets to the office after election day it's STILL not counted.

So what's left? Just tell everyone to count what they can in 4 hours then torch the rest?

Annie from Alaska IanDakar 13 hours ago

This rule makes it harder to conspire with someone in USPS to "find" a bundle of ballots "lost" inside USPS, and stuff the ballot box that way.

gnt Annie from Alaska 7 hours ago

So if the Post Office managers intentionally lose a box of ballots, it should just stay lost, because that's not tampering with votes.

faithandhonor Annie from Alaska 7 hours ago

There was a 300,000 ballot discrepancy between ballots mailed and those received, and USPS can't account for the difference.

The postal Mail Covers Service should able to prove several things, and the fraud as well. There are several ways to prove the fraud.

And the PA vote processes that were handed down by the PA corrupt court are invalid.

ONLY THE PA LEGISLATURE IS AUTHORIZED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE VOTING LAWS.

Matthew Maheras faithandhonor 7 hours ago
There was a 300,000 ballot discrepancy between ballots mailed and those received, and USPS can't account for the difference.

Yes they can, the USPS explained this two days ago. Many ballots don't show delivery or tracking scans because the policy was to have them hand-picked by postal workers to expedite their arrival.

Maybe they wouldn't have had to skip steps in the process if Trump should have appointed someone better than DeJoy, and maybe Congress (Republicans in particular) shouldn't have spent the better part of the last two decades screwing with the USPS.

Alex (from SF) a day ago

Delays in ballot counting alone are enough to cause concern. Add to that the occasional full stops, after which huge quantities of Biden ballots conveniently appear. Add to that Wisconsin's level of voter turnout -- not over 100%, as some online rumors earlier suggested, but still near unbelievably high. It would be the farthest thing from a surprise if a more careful inspection really did shake things up this time around.

Yeah, what kind of insane ballot-counting system would allow the poll workers to sleep ? They should be legally required to mainline stimulants until their work is done! And the only honest way to deliver counts is to transmit each individual ballot one by one to the state: sending counts in batches must be evidence of fraud! And how is it possible that after vocally discouraging his voters from voting by mail, there are relatively few Trump mail-in votes? Very suspicious! Oh and by the way, turnout in Wisconsin was quite normal:

https://www.nationalreview....

Does anyone fact check these articles? Are there editorial standards here at all?

Matthew Maheras SJE 21 hours ago • edited
jeez, it is amazing how uncurious everyone has become...

Uncurious? The uncurious are the people who take videos shared by Steven Crowder, or whatever right-wing grifter they like, and believe them as gospel truth without verifying it.

I have literally spent the better part of my precious Friday evening reading and watching a trove of claimed voter fraud incidents, and I have yet to find a substantially supported example.

1) Jill Stokke spoke at a Trump rally in Nevada, claimed her mail-in vote never came and that they had a ballot with her signature on it. Except it turns out the County Elections department went to her house, offered to let her cast a new ballot with a written statement about the supposedly falsified ballot , and she refused. Then she went to the media and claimed she had been wronged...for something she refused to rectify when given the chance!

2) Sharpiegate claimed that people were given Sharpies to invalidate Republican ballots. On the one hand, there's zero evidence this happened other than unverified claims by a few people on social media. On the other hand, it doesn't matter. Sharpies are compatible with Maricopa County's ballot scanners, and to boot, even if they weren't, the ballot would still be accepted! If you use a pen incompatible with the machine (say a red pen), especially if you send it from home, even if the machine rejects your ballot, it will simply be hand-counted afterwards.

3) Wagongate, which was perpetrated by Steven Crowder alleged that a man was secretly bringing in ballots in a wagon. Except guess what, it's actually the cameraman for WXYZ, the local ABC affiliate, bringing in his team's equipment.

4) 118-year old dead man votes was another pet theory. Again, no. What happened was the man's son, who has the same name, voted and his vote was incorrectly logged (logged not counted!) upon receipt as belonging to his father. And in Michigan, what happens if a dead person does actually try to vote? The system will flag the vote and delete it. Even if you cast your ballot before Election Day and die before Election Day, the county will know and your vote will be deleted. From the Michigan Secretary of State website:

Ballots of voters who have died are rejected in Michigan, even if the voter cast an absentee ballot and then died before Election Day.

5) Then there was this video of some guy who Eric Trump (and others) claimed was throwing Republican ballots out.

But...duh? You absolutely do have some ballots thrown out in every election, because they're improperly marked or otherwise somehow invalid. That's not a conspiracy, that's literally what poll workers have to do. I don't get it, if we think there are dead people voting (per the above conspiracy) wouldn't we want the workers to throw them out? Or do we not want them throwing them out? Can't have it both ways!

6) As a final example, last night I saw a video going around of two election workers sitting across from each other, with one filling out a ballot, and the person recording the video is claiming that they're filling out fake ballots.

It doesn't exactly take a brainiac to realize what's happening in the video. The man on the right is holding a damaged ballot, and reading off the marked selections to the woman on the left so that she can transcribe the damaged information to a new, undamaged ballot. You then mark the serial number for the new ballot onto the original, damaged ballot to keep them together.

And of course, as an extra bonus, the video is zoomed in purposefully to crop out the bipartisan poll-watchers that are standing right by this duo to make sure that they're properly transcribing the votes.

This is literally election 101 stuff, but apparently people don't know how it works.

BanBait Matthew Maheras 16 hours ago

Uh huh. 200% turnout in a Milwaukee precinct. 138,399 votes turning up for Biden and zero for Trump. Nothing to see here!!

massappeal BanBait 16 hours ago

Got a link to any of that?

Matthew Maheras BanBait 12 hours ago • edited
200% turnout in a Milwaukee precinct.

Come on, you can literally verify or debunk this on the County website. Yes, one claim going around is that Wards 273 and 274, which was located at the Spanish Immersion School reported 200% turnout.

Well, we can quickly verify this on the Milwaukee County Clerk website , and what does it tell us?

Ward 273 had 671 registered voters, and 612 actual voters; Ward 274 had 702 registered voters and 611 actual voters.

So congratulations, you bought into another easily disprovable lie. I've also seen claims that the 272nd, 277th, 269th, 234th and 312nd Wards overrated, but you can check and see that none of that is true either.

And, all of these claims are leaving out an important detail anyways: Wisconsin has same-day voter registration. It is possible , albeit perhaps unlikely, to have higher voter counts than number of pre-registered voters because of that.

RBH Matthew Maheras 15 hours ago • edited

Ballot harvesting is real: https://dfw.cbslocal.com/20... This is but one example in my state, and we're also aware of certain places sending out unrequested ballots. They all deserve jail time.

Matthew Maheras Connecticut Farmer 12 hours ago

Let's say I was. Would that make any of the proof I linked untrue? Or is truth only something that comes out of a party-flag waving conservatives' mouth?

And no, I'm not. I've pretty openly stated multiple times that I voted ASP in the Presidential race, and both R/D in various spots down the ballot.

Oh, and just in the interest of fairness, there were some conspiracies going around on the left too on election night. One that I saw was that 300,000 ballots were undelivered. While yes, many thousands of ballots were likely undelivered, what was happening wasn't that they were undelivered, it was that the USPS was skipping scanning the ballots to expedite delivery. That's why DeJoy likely won't actually get in trouble, because postal branches were specifically going out of their way to hand-pick ballots and expedite their delivery.

LgVt 18 hours ago

The reason a recount doesn't change anything is because it's just that--a recount. They take all the ballots that were counted before, and count them again. They're not looking at whether any ballots should have been thrown out. Fraudulent ballots that were counted the first time around are counted again.

A recount won't do anything about what the Democrats pulled in Milwaukee.

Annie from Alaska LgVt 13 hours ago

I also don't understand it. Hasn't the mail-in envelope with the signature and the voter's name already been thrown away? How will they remove the votes by dead people?

I have heard they're using some procedure intended for ballots that won't scan to conceal ballots with missing or invalid signatures by copying them at desks that are supposed to have bipartisan teams. I guess they throw out the original ballot when they do that to prevent the recount from checking signatures properly?

Ken T Annie from Alaska 10 hours ago
I guess they throw out the original ballot when they do that to prevent the recount from checking signatures properly?

No, they do that to prevent any possibllity of the original being mistakenly counted twice.

As you yourself pointed out, the copying takes place in front of a bipartisan team of watchers. So for your fantasy to have any validity, you have to believe that BOTH parties are conspiring together to rig the vote. In which case, your vote is irrelevant, anyway, right?

If you really care about this, then instead of believing all of these ridiculous conspiracy theories, why don't you try to actually become educated about how the process works, and next time volunteer yourself to become a certified poll watcher? Then you will KNOW the truth.

dstraws Annie from Alaska 7 hours ago

Those checks were made before the ballot was accepted and counted. They include checking that it was a legal ballot sent to a specific person. And that the signature matched that of the registered voter. Only after those checks is the ballot removed from its envelop. While there may be a few mistakes there aren't anywhere enough to be material to the final results. The ballots from in person voting are similarly dissociated from the voters' information.

stephen pickard 17 hours ago • edited

A big thank you to Mr. Maheras commenting below. Listen to him. He is our savior.

I am close to 80 years old. Old conspiracy advocates began to make extraordinary claims about most everything when photographs would appear in newspapers. Rorschach tests. Then came videos , or movie clips on TV. Think the Kennedy tape. Pretty soon we had personal video equipment. And now cell phones. All Rorschach tests. But those crazy conspiracies were the fringe long time ago. True belivers. Ideologues. But not the Republican party leaders.

About 30 years ago the new world order, illuminati, the Bilderbers, now the Davos all became the subject of the go to conspiracy advocates. Take your pick. One or all . But one thing for sure, a cabal is taking over the world. Throw in a few Clinton, or Obama conspiracies. Catch a sighting of Elvis for good measure.

Now all rolled into the Qanon cabal. Democratic pedophilia scum raping children. What they all have in common is that they are right wing conspiracy advocates. And they all are foolish.

This article fits in with those conspiracies. And by right wing
advocates naturally. When Clinton lost , her margin of defeat was similar to Trump's projected defeat. Clinton and the Democrats never asserted fraud. Nor suggested conspiracies. The political system worked, Trump won.

Now we have a reputable magazine publishing similar outlandish conspiracy theroies to the ones mentioned above. All without a scintilla of proof. The President of the United States for months has been setting his base up to claim fraud. And he has. And they have blindly bought into it.

Long way to tell you that the greatest disappointment of my lifetime is the validation by conservatives of these kooky ideas. 30 years ago even conservatives would call these conspiracy peddlers nut jobs.

Now we have a nut job in the white house. The birther in chief. And he just gets worse. But no one in the Republican party, except for a few tepid critics, will call the Predident out.

This is the same guy who saw videos of Muslims dancing on 9/11. Or an inaugural crowd rivaling the largest gathering of human beings ever assembled in the whole history of mankind. The greatest. The most perfect and strongest

I have never been so disappointed in my President. He has enabled Mr. Leary to peddle his nonsense. And tragically Leary believes his blather. This is truly heartbreaking. But it is the world that Leary and his ilk will have to live with.

Me, l'll be gone. Forgetting my own name soon. Someone tell me that what I just read is a part of my onset dementia.

OfficerSudsy28 CE in CA 8 hours ago

Lifelong stutterer? What a load of crap. Just watch some old videos of Joe in his arrogant days on the senate judiciary. He and his good buddy Ted Chappaquidick Kennedy didn't stutter when they were trashing Clarence Thomas and Judge Bork. Hey it's your right to vote for a lifer politician who's way past his prime and suffering from a tragic disease. Climate change - right. More likely God's judgement on a godless nation.

Ken T stephen pickard 10 hours ago
Now we have a reputable magazine publishing similar outlandish conspiracy theroies

As someone who started reading TAC a long time ago when it really WAS a reputable magazine, I'm afraid that particular ship started sailing several years ago, and is almost out of the harbor by now. There was a time when you could come here to find intelligent, educated, and thoughtful conservatives setting out their views and being unafraid to engage with responses from all across the entire political spectrum. Now, Larison is the only one left who consistently meets that description, a couple of others dabble in reality once in a while, and the rest are descending into Breitbart levels of paranoid lunacy.

KevinS 17 hours ago • edited

I look forward to seeing the evidence of fraud in a court of law rather than just circulating on twitter where the standards are somewhat less stringent.

And the president said BEFORE the election that any election he lost would necessarily be rigged/corrupt. So of course that evidence was going to be found if he lost.....

Victor_the_thinker KevinS 13 hours ago

You can put this is the same category as all these white guys who lost a job because they were white men. Of course the couldn't possibly make these claims in a court where discovery could happen and their BS would be exposed.

longlance 17 hours ago

Though loud, loutish, bumptious & bombastic, Trump is weak, shallow, superficial & hollow at his core. As Georgia goes, so goes the nation.

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump being booted out of office 'unfairly' may be the optimal scenario for him in certain ways.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Muslim_Dude , Nov 7 2020 16:08 utc | 83

1. He is a victim/martyr to his right-wing constituency, in much the same way that Erdogan has always portrayed himself as a 'man of the people' and representative of the poor conservative rural Turks and still an outsider in comparison to the secular urban elites.

This 'otherness' or being separate from the establishment/elite/'swamp' is very good for Trumps' image. Even though he is a billionaire and has been part of the US elite for decades.

2. With the economy going to go through problems due to covid and other issues, Trump can try and attribute blame for the then incumbent Biden/Harris regime and free himself of any blame and say that he has better answers.

3. He may well go on to forming his 'Trump TV' with Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham as is the current chatter amongst some and be seen as the de facto 'leader of the opposition', a term not really used in the (dis)United States but common in many/most other countries.

[Nov 07, 2020] It is a nexus of profiteering corporate power, and a two-party cabal of American Exceptionalism. The idea the Democrats are 'commies' is laughable and shows how deeply red the Kool Aid runs.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

gottlieb , Nov 7 2020 15:51 utc | 75

The United States is a monopoly two-party fascist system. It is a nexus of profiteering corporate power, and a two-party cabal of American Exceptionalism. The idea the Democrats are 'commies' is laughable and shows how deeply red the Kool Aid runs. The Democrats just told the Bernie wing of the Party to shut-up or leave. And why not? The Democrats will tally up a five million vote plurality over Trump by playing to the right. It got them a President without a Congress. Thank the "Karen" constituency. Mission Accomplished.

Sure, bring on Tucker as the next Trump, or Don Jr or whatever other celebrity fascist you want. This particular bell of Pavlov's doesn't work on all the dogs. There is a seething anti-fascist sentiment out there against for-profit healthcare, politics and war. Before a 4th Reich takes hold in the USA, a Civil War will be fought and the left, verified by study after study, is more intelligent as a group.

The foreign policy of the USA is fully bi-partisan. Did a Democrat make a peep about the all the weapons-based 'peace deals' Trump made with the Oil Kingdoms? No. Do the Dems disagree about regime change anywhere the USA contemplates it? No. Do the Dems want to get rid of anything but bad manners? No.

So please, knock off the existential BS about Dems 'stealing' the election. Stealing what exactly? The high ground of plausible deniability? Hilarious.

[Nov 07, 2020] The result of this election can be summarized with one phase "Strange non-death of neoliberalism."

Highly recommended!
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The result of this election can be summarized with one phase "Strange non-death of neoliberalism."

Joe Biden win is a win the tech companies, the big banks, Beijing, as well a PMC class.

likbez 11.07.20 at 5:37 pm (
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It's entirely possible that Biden will be a 1 term President, and this is something that Democrats should have given some thought to. But they had other, sillier, things on their mind, and, well, here we are.

They don't care. It is return to business as usual -- classic neoliberalism with the classic neoliberal globalization on the agenda. And this is all that matter to them.

The people behind Joe Biden are Clinton classic neoliberals. Who ruled the country since 1990th with a well known result.

It is unclear what will happen in 2020 as Biden is a weak politician clearly unable of dealing with the current crisis the country faces. He is kick the can down the road type of guy.

And some start speculate that Dems the might get Tucker Carlson in 2024 as the opponent to Kamala.

(2) From an American perspective, Republican control of the Senate means that the Dems have limited scope to carry out grandiose economic and social experiments. Which I doubt Biden is much interested in anyway. (Incidentally, the idea that Biden or Copmala is in any way a "socialist" is yet another far-fetched MAGA fantasy just ask the folks at Chapo Trap House ). The idea that he came to power via fraud will not be quite enough to delegitimize the Biden Presidency – it's not like George W. Bush's narrow and contested victory over Al Gore in Florida remained much of an issue after a couple of months – but it certainly wouldn't hurt Republicans to have that as an additional rhetorical tool.

(3) Most consequentially, this substantially discredits American soft power and its "democracy promotion" efforts.

[Nov 07, 2020] If they can do the three year long Russia-gate conspiracy, they can certainly do a three day long vote conspiracy.

Highly recommended!
Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Athletic and Whitesplosive , says: Next New Comment November 7, 2020 at 6:20 pm GMT • 14 minutes ago

@Anatoly Karlin ps would rather have more influence in governing than less, but they aren't particularly troubled by dem victory (principled defeat forms a big part of their rhetoric and the basis of many rep careers). Both the senior and junior members of the ruling class would truly like to see Trump gone, the faction that Trump represents is a very small minority in American government, without much institutional influence. And in this election in particular they made out like bandits, flipped a lot of seats to their side, and got rid of the primary opponent of principled cuckservatism, win-win! Seems to me when the defense and the prosecution both want the same thing, arguments in favor of a "fair" process should be viewed with extreme suspicion.
Bill Jones , says: November 7, 2020 at 6:20 pm GMT • 14 minutes ago

But to have large scale fraud, you need a conspiracy, which is hard because leakage is possible

Grow up.
If they can do the three year long Russia-gate conspiracy, they can certainly do a three day long vote conspiracy.

[Nov 07, 2020] Well as long as there are excuses for all the horse shit, then I'm satisfied. Especially since those excuses are coming from the same power structure that gave us weapons of mass destruction and Trump is a Russian asset.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Gleimhart Mantooso , says: November 7, 2020 at 7:41 am GMT • 10.0 hours ago

Well as long as there are excuses for all the horse shit, then I'm satisfied. Especially since those excuses are coming from the same power structure that gave us weapons of mass destruction and Trump is a Russian asset.

Quick! Gaslight me some more!

[Nov 07, 2020] Granny farming and other forms of mail-in votes abuse

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Richard Steven Hack , Nov 7 2020 13:16 utc | 16

MAIL-IN VOTING: Sifting through the misinformation

The article is specific to Reno, Nevada, but the discussion is applicable to other states.


False Claim 4: Ballot harvesting and 'granny farming'

In August, Nevada passed AB4, which clarifies who can collect ballots. According to language in AB4, "a person authorized by the voter may return the mail ballot on behalf of the voter by mail or personal delivery to the county or city clerk." There are strict regulations against any unauthorized person interfering with the return of mail-in ballots.

Yet, there have been misleading claims from critics of mail-in ballots that this would lead to ballot harvesting. The accusation is that dishonest people will go to assisted living homes and manipulate grandmas into giving away their ballots for harvesting.

Lately, ballot harvesting is being talked about as a malpractice. But this has been a common, legal practice of collecting and submitting the ballots by specified agents such as family members, authorized legal guardians and, in some states, paid staff where harvesting is legal, such as in California and Colorado. Some states have limitations in place on how many ballots a paid agent can collect.

In the current political climate, politicians have painted a picture of an agent running off with someone else's ballot or "one of the post guys" delivering a "handful of" ballots "to some Democratic political operative," as President Trump claimed at his September rally in Minden. Comments like these create an image of lawlessness, incompetency and chaos and can scare law-abiding citizens. However, the checks and balances embedded in AB4 make it nearly impossible for anyone to collect ballots without authorization.

In parts of rural and frontier Nevada, some voters have said ballot collection is a lifeline.

And this article comments:


And yes, The New York Times published a report in 2012 suggesting that mail-in voting would lead to fraud. As I wrote at the time, the story quoted a former county attorney in Florida, who was concerned about "granny farming." This is where fraudsters allegedly go into nursing homes and "help" elderly people vote by more or less filling out their ballots for them and mailing them in.

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Why Trump supports mail-in voting in Florida and not in Nevada

But the story never attempted to document this happening. In any event, it would be a slow and laborious way to alter an election, and easily detectable by nursing home officials who, especially in today's pandemic, ought to monitor visitors carefully.

Back then, the Times noted, mail-in voting was seen as a way to help Republicans win. "In the 2008 general election in Florida," the story said, "47% of absentee voters were Republicans and 36% were Democrats."

Today, President Donald Trump seems worried it will help Democrats.

The vote-by-mail bogeyman, it seems, can be a convenient tool for whichever party feels the need to use it.

Credible evidence suggests all this is overblown. A study earlier this year by Daniel Thompson, Jesse Yoder, Jennifer Wu and Andrew Hall of Stanford University concluded, "In normal times, based on our data at least, vote-by-mail modestly increases participation while not advantaging either party."

Part of that data came from Utah, one of five states that conduct all mail-in voting. Utah has phased this in since 2012. As a Deseret News story this week suggested, the Beehive State knows how to do it right. It has safeguards in place. No one has alleged widespread fraud here.

It's one thing to wave hands and speculate on various forms of vote fraud. It's another to produce actual evidence of any widespread use - and yet another to produce actual evidence that it has happened over the last few days in this election. b has elected to not do so, but rely on the same innuendo and speculation the Trump supporters do.

However, I do agree with the rest of b's analysis. The Biden-Harris administration will be a nightmare just as much as Trump's was. And yes, I expect them to start a war with Iran once Biden's fake attempt to restart the JCPOA is rejected by Iran due to demands over Iran's ballistic missile program. And I expect "Trumpism" - as they are calling the populist movement - to continue going forward with negative results for the country.

But it's ridiculous to start eulogizing Trump as if he wasn't the worst President in US history - which he was. He was certainly the biggest joke President in US history. Even Clinton's blue dress didn't rise to the level of Trump.


librul , Nov 7 2020 13:51 utc | 27

@Posted by: visak | Nov 7 2020 13:39 utc | 23

The NYT is not trying to "lie", they are trying to serve a narrative.

In 2012 when the NYT addressed mail-in ballots they did not know at that time
what narrative they would be selling in 2020.

visak , Nov 7 2020 13:58 utc | 31

librul@27 "The NYT is not trying to "lie", they are trying to serve a narrative."

The track record of the NYT is indisputable concerning their history of lying.

You exhibit olympic level gymnastics here. What is the difference between lieing and serving a narrative?

Perhaps if I could figure out how your brain is able to do this I would have the answer to my question.

librul , Nov 7 2020 14:19 utc | 35

@Posted by: visak | Nov 7 2020 13:58 utc | 31

The NYT does not **set out** to lie, they lie, lie, lie
and then lie again; but they **set out** to serve a narrative.

If the truth serves that narrative then the NYT will tell the truth.
They did not **set out** to tell the truth, the truth just **happened** to
serve a narrative.

"What is the difference between lying and serving a narrative?" - visak
When someone serves a narrative they are not necessarily lying it might just
serve the narrative to tell the truth. When someone is lying then they are lying, period.

[Nov 07, 2020] Narratives control mass behavior

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Chevrus , Nov 7 2020 15:42 utc | 72

Lots of talk about narrative, and with good reason. Narratives control mass behavior in that they pave the way for Directed History. Predicitive programming is essentially brainwashing on a mass scale. As Giuliani not so famously said: "We live in a post truth world". As we have seen policy both domestic and foreign can be predicated on outright lies with little to no consequences. There is an art to it really. When faced with solid evidence that the destruction of Iraq was implemented for specific reasons (other than the official ones) using outright lies as justification, the response from the slighly informed public is something like 'Oh well'. The oft repeated narrative is what most people base their flimsy Reality Tunnel on. Any information that challenges this is discarded. The mechanics for this have been fine tuned over the past few decades. With the help of media domination, meme control and false gatekeepers, any voice that steps out of line is tarred and feathered as a whack-0, regardless of the information that is presented. As demonstrated in this election, near total censorship is a go. It borders on witch hunting.

Regardless of the RedBlue UniParty antics being foisted on the USAn population, The Great Reset appears to have been sprung. Creative Destruction, Controlled Chaos, Draconian Plutocracy are the watch-words. It is no longer convenient or even possible to keep up the appearance of faux-democracy and the brick wall behind the curtain is exposed. Any nation that tries to haveit's own currency, culture or trade outside the structure being forced on the globe will be destroyed. Wesley Clark's '7 coutries in 5 years' interview comes to mind. I dont think the billionaire class can afford a full blown world war this time to get to the next level of control. For one, materials technology has made a few crucial leaps which means they could be targetted. It also allows the little guy to resist more fiercely. It also would not do to have whats left of the infrastructure razed to the ground, thus the virus terror.

As far as the next fed-gov configuration in the USA, speculation abounds. Apparently if Biden can last 2 years then the following 2 years occupied by Harris doesnt count as a full term and she can run two times more. Perhaps Hillary will be selected as VP? No matter because the forces backing these people will likely do much more destruction on the international front than OrangeManBad. With a population that just had their livelihood ripped from them, that's alot of dog-soldiers. Drum up enough hate-blame for Russia, China, and everything Muslim and you might just get a flood of enlistees. PMC's can fill in the gaps at great expense. The rest of the world has been backing away slowly for a couple of decades and arming up. The run-up to Agenda 2030 could be explosive.

[Nov 07, 2020] When someone prefers a euphemism for "telling the truth", he is probably lying.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Norwegian , Nov 7 2020 14:26 utc | 41

@librul | Nov 7 2020 14:19 utc | 35

When someone serves a narrative they are not necessarily lying it might just
serve the narrative to tell the truth. When someone is lying then they are lying, period.
When someone prefers a euphemism for "telling the truth", he is probably lying.

librul , Nov 7 2020 14:35 utc | 44

@Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2020 14:26 utc | 41

"When someone prefers a euphemism for "telling the truth", he is probably lying."

When someone says "probably" then they are hedging.

When someone prefers a hedge, to say that person is probably lying, is a stretch.

[Nov 07, 2020] Was Q is 666D professional psyop created by CIA/FBI/NSA/MI5/FSB/Mossad (pick your choice of originator) to manipulate trailer park rednecks for (pick your choice of secret plan).

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

another anon , says: November 7, 2020 at 7:53 am GMT • 9.8 hours ago

For another important (sort of) take: what is going on with Qanon?

Q is silent since the election, and Qanonists are desperate.

https://qalerts.app/

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=true&embedId=twitter-widget-9&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1324764684088725505&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fakarlin%2Fmaga-cope%2F&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=500px

Daniel Chieh , says: November 7, 2020 at 9:55 am GMT • 7.7 hours ago
@another anon

I feel the original Q was probably an actual civil servant with a bit of a speculation, and gradually was replaced by increasingly more parodical versions of himself.

[Nov 07, 2020] Tucker Carlson- A Biden victory would usher in the Age of Oligarchy - Fox News

Nov 07, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

If Joe Biden wins, the tech companies, the big banks, Beijing and the billionaire class will have won as well

Editor's Note: This article is adapted from Tucker Carlson's opening commentary on the Nov. 6, 2020 edition of " Tucker Carlson Tonight "

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Who exactly is Joe Biden , the man who may be our president come Jan. 20? The truth is, as of right now, we don't really know.

We have no clue what Joe Biden actually thinks, or even if he's capable of thinking. He hasn't told us and no one's made him tell us for a full year. In fact, it's becoming clear there is no Joe Biden. The man you may remember from the 1980s is gone.

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What remains is a projection of sorts, a hologram designed to mimic the behavior of a non-threatening political candidate: "Relax, Joe Biden's here. He smiles a lot. Everything's fine." That's the message from the vapor candidate.

So who's running the projector here? Well, the first thing you should know is that the people behind Joe Biden aren't liberals. We've often incorrectly called them that. A liberal believes in the right of all Americans to speak freely, to make a living, to worship their God, to defend their own families, and to do all of that regardless of what political party they belong to or what race they happen to be born into or how far from midtown Manhattan they currently live.

A liberal believes in universal principles, fairly applied. And the funny thing is, all of that describes most of the 70 million people who just voted for Donald Trump this week. Most of them don't want to hurt or control anyone. They have no interest in silencing the opposition on Facebook or anywhere else. They just want to live their lives in the country they were born in, and it doesn't seem like a lot to ask. So by any traditional definition, they are liberal.

However, our language has become so politicized and so distorted that you would never know it. What you do know for certain is that the people behind Joe Biden are not like that at all. They don't believe in dissent. "You think one thing? I think another. That's OK." No, that's not them at all. They demand obedience to diversity, which is to say, legitimate differences between people is the last thing they want. These people seek absolute sameness, total uniformity. You're happy with your corner coffee shop? They want to make you drink Starbucks every day from now until forever, no matter how it tastes. That's the future.

TUCKER CARLSON: MEDIA MISJUDGED TRUMP SUPPORT AMONG NON-WHITE VOTERS

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Now, if these seem like corporate values to you, then you're catching on to what's happening. The Joe Biden for President campaign is a purely corporate enterprise. It's the first one in American history to come this close to the presidency. If a multinational corporation decided to create a presidential candidate, he would be a former credit card shill from Wilmington, Del., and that's exactly what they got. What's good for Google is good for the Biden campaign and vice versa. We have never seen a more soulless project. They literally picked Kamala Harris as Biden's running mate, someone who can't even pronounce her own name. Not that it matters, because it's purely an advertising gimmick.

We watched all of this come together in real time. We stood slack-jawed in total disbelief as a man with no discernible constituency of any kind rose to the very top of our political system, as if by magic. It's possible in the end that Joe Biden himself never convinced a single voter of anything over the entire duration of the presidential campaign, but he didn't have to. Joe Biden won the Democratic nomination because he wasn't Bernie Sanders. He came to where he is today because he isn't Donald Trump. It's the shortest political story ever written.

Now, whatever you may think of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, they did it the traditional way. Each one of them had the support of actual voters. Living, breathing people loved them, believed in them, vested their hope in them, and, by the way, agreed with their ideas, which they articulated clearly.

But corporate America hated them both. They couldn't be controlled, particularly Donald Trump, whose complete unwillingness to submit made him the greatest possible threat. That's why they hate Donald Trump, because he won't obey.

It's insulting to say that Joseph R. Biden won this election, if that is what comes to pass. The tech companies will have won. The big banks will have won. The government of China, the media establishment, the permanent bureaucracy, the billionaire class -- they will have won, and not in the way that democracy promises. If a single person equaled a single vote, a coalition like that could never win anything. There aren't enough of them.

But as a group, they have something that Donald Trump's voters sadly do not have, and that is power. They have lots of power and they plan to wield that power, whether you like it or not. It's all starting to look a lot like oligarchy at this point. The people who believe they should have been in charge all along now may actually be in charge.

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So what does that mean for the rest of us? Will corporate America declare victory and back off? Can we speak freely again? Will they take the boot from our necks? Can we have America back now that the Great Orange Emergency has passed? Well, the mandatory lying orders finally be lifted?

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Those are the questions we'll be paying attention to, since we plan to stay in this country. And one other thing while we're at it, who's excited to greet our new corporate overlords? Who plans to collaborate, particularly of those on the right side, the Republican side, the side that said it was defending you? Who's happy about all of this? That seems worth keeping track of, just so we know who we're dealing with here. Tucker Carlson currently serves as the host of FOX News Channel's (FNC) Tucker Carlson Tonight (weekdays 8PM/ET). He joined the network in 2009 as a contributor.

[Nov 07, 2020] Anyone surprised the same neoliberal MSM who protected and worked for the Biden campaign, now are working with him to claim a victory?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Your account is currently banned , 14 minutes ago

Here's a thought exercise tards:

So how many times has Donnie said he was going to do something and then didn't follow through? ICE raids, wall, border security, Hillbags in prison, Russiagate investigations, etc., etc., etc.

So now Donnie is going to fight this election fraud (which BTW he created a task force in 2017 and then quickly disbanded). And you actually believe it.

LOL.

fxrxexexdxoxmx2 , 20 minutes ago

Anyone surprised the same media who protected and worked for the Biden campaign are working with him to claim an ilegall victory?

[Nov 07, 2020] They get rid of Trump, they may get Tucker in 2024

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 7 2020 13:20 utc | 17

the perfect setup for a talented right-wing populist to sweep into office in 2024. And make no mistake: They're all thinking about it.

And just yesterday I read this article on express.co.uk with the headline:

Tucker Carlson bombshell: 'Door open' for Fox host to run for President if Joe Biden wins

Northener , Nov 7 2020 13:21 utc | 19

I think calling it Harris (Biden) administration is a bit childish. Harris will have about as much effect on policy as Pence had during last 4 four years. Certainly nothing like Cheney. And she won't be the Dems candidate in four years.
Josh , Nov 7 2020 13:24 utc | 20
The state of the government is a sad thing to behold.
Down South , Nov 7 2020 13:25 utc | 21
I agree with your analysis but I feel there is just one thing you left out.

BLM and Antifa are going to disappear. The Democrats and George Soros don't need them anymore, they have served their purpose.

warren schaich , Nov 7 2020 13:48 utc | 26

Chris Sweeney, UK reporter, says" Britain died for me, its become a Covid-obsessed police state."He further writes that the courageous spirit that defines Britain is disappearing. Do you feel the same about the US. I do. The response to the lockdown and masks etc. sends brave loggers here in the Catskill into a state of child-like fear . Who said there is a sucker born every minute.

[Nov 07, 2020] Lukashenko about the recent USA election: It's a disgrace! This is a mockery of democracy.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Mitri Smirnov, @dimsmirnov175

Lukashenko-about the US elections: It's a disgrace! This is a mockery of democracy. We will see how the OSCE responds to this and how the German Parliament will demand a second election in America. Because everything was corrupted there!

I can now say how they will react. They will do nothing! They will be too afraid!

[Nov 07, 2020] The Left has created The Left Pole. Just like anyone not on the North Pole is technically "South", anyone not on the Left Pole is "A far-Right wing Nazi"

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Richard B , says: November 7, 2020 at 2:55 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago

@Grahamsno(G64) ries and therefore deserves to die. So, we are justified in killing them

What good would it do any commenter to provide you with data when you've already dismissed their claims as the kind of conspiracy theory Mr. Kaplan has rubbished? Which, as interesting and as thought-provoking as Mr. Kaplan's article is, he has not in fact rubbished. No. You're not interested in data. You're interested in confirmation bias. Since that is what you start with that's what you'll get – every single time.

And now we're back to why the country's falling apart. Because that's the real heart of the matter.

[Nov 07, 2020] They have been "caught", it just doesn't matter. Remember Russiagate hoax? Is anybody of organizers in jail now?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

TheMann , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:35 pm GMT • 5.1 hours ago

So let me get this straight-

You acknowledge that there is a systematic and organized effort, a conspiracy, dare I say, on the part of the Media, Tech giants, and Democratic Party to systematically censor, basically, the entire Country, BUT .

The very same actors couldn't organize a massive vote fraud because they would get caught.

You have managed a twofer, logically inconsistent, and wrong. They have been "caught " it just doesn't matter.

[Nov 07, 2020] 'Peaceful Protest Is White Supremacy'- Election Night in Portland: when BLM activists can't find any racist, they turn on old white people who they have decided are valued the least

Nov 07, 2020 | www.youtube.com

On election night in Portland (3 Nov., 2020), hundreds of BLM-antifa protesters shut down the streets of a residential area of southeast Portland, Ore. They confronted people at their homes. In one instance, they stopped outside the home of a couple with a "Biden Harris" sign, accusing them of white supremacy. They then rob another man of his phone for recording them.


Just hanging out , 3 days ago

They can't find any racist, so they turn on old white people who they have decided are valued the least. They are literally race supremacists 😂😂😂😂😂

Smdn Snnd , 3 days ago

They voted biden? They're getting exactly what they voted for...


Smdn Snnd
, 3 days ago

Welcome to bidens America

[Nov 07, 2020] Why Trump did not start any new wars? May be the Blob was refusing to give him the authority to launch any original policy of their own

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

ptb , Nov 7 2020 14:58 utc | 49

I would also add Bolton to complete the list of crazy-hawk Trump appointees.

While some credit is due to Trump not starting any wars, I have to think it was unintentional on Trump's part, as evidenced by the same list of ultra aggressive foreign policy advisors he appointed.

More likely, the subpar crop of new wars was the result of the foreign policy apparatus refusing to give his administration the authority to launch any original policy of their own. Venezuela, Iran, Yemen, Syria were continuations of existing policy, and sponsored by "respected" interests (respectively: by the Oil Industry, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and all of the above).

The biggest foreign policy initiative of all, cold war with China, is a long term bipartisan project.

Jackrabbit , Nov 7 2020 15:08 utc | 56

...Trump as peaceful is magical thinking after Trump's belligerent rhetoric and acts of war :

[Nov 07, 2020] Biden like "peaceful protests"

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Robjil , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:12 pm GMT • 5.5 hours ago

@Amon v

In 2013 he told the Ukrainian government that it can't use police force against "demonstrators".

The police were the "bad guys" if they stopped the violent protesters. This game has boomeranged back to the USA in 2020. Ironically we got the same guy who pushed this theme in Kiev in 2013:

In 2013 Joe Biden went to Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, and warned the government not to harm the demonstrators. That act made clear to the world that the US was allied with them, if not orchestrating the demonstrations and then the subsequent coup against the elected government.

[Nov 07, 2020] Note on who is who: Whatever the hell makes up the left, it is not smart high IQ people. It is a loose coalitions of insane maniacs who have gone off their medication.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Amon , says: November 7, 2020 at 10:55 am GMT • 6.7 hours ago

@another anon Who are destroying cities despite every single broadcast of the protests showing fires, bricks, looting and black clad maniacs rioting in the streets while holding antifa flags and shields with the drawings of the hammer and sickle on them.

Added to this is the high IQ people insisting that even if the rioters are burning down democratic cities while the democratic leadership refuses to charge them and sets them free time and again, the protests are still peaceful.

Whatever the hell makes up the left, it is not smart high IQ people. It is a loose coalitions of insane maniacs who have gone off their medication.

[Nov 07, 2020] Tramp role in Syria and Iraq

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jackrabbit , Nov 7 2020 15:08 utc | 56

RSH's warning that Trump could still start a war should be taken very seriously. Trump has vowed that he will never allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Will he leave office without ENSURING that they cannot?

Israel Warns Of Coming War With Iran If Biden Wins As Trump Calls

I don't think for a minute think that Zionist Biden will do anything to upset Israel. But the election of Biden is a convenient excuse for Trump to start a war (probably based on a false flag of some sort) that Biden (or Kamala-Hillary) will "inherit".

!!


Don Bacon , Nov 7 2020 15:14 utc | 57

@ pnyx #43
. . .on Biden. Just think of the warmongering role he played for the Iraq war. The Neocons would have an easier time with Biden than with Tronald
Yes. Biden is a Clintonite, Trump was anti-Clinton.
The US war in Iraq - Operation Iraqi Freedom - with its death, destruction and displacement has been rightly called the worst US foreign policy move ever.
The Clintons started it, and then promoted it with Biden's assistance as Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
President Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act into law on October 31, 1998.
On December 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton announces he has ordered air strikes against Iraq because it refused to cooperate with United Nations (U.N.) weapons inspectors.
David , Nov 7 2020 15:35 utc | 66

Trump's foreign policies were remarkably different? How? He assassinated an Iranian general, which nearly had the US enter into a hot war with Iran, bombed Syria twice, put additional sanctions on Iran, Venezuela, Russia and the DPRK. Trump's State Department has successfully enacted regime change in Zimbabwe, Sudan, El Salvador, Chile, Honduras, Bolivia (Mike Pompeo congratulating Luis Arce on his win -- very suspicious), and is trying regime change in Hong Kong, Belarus, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran, Eritrea, and Zimbabwe again, and as of late, Nigeria.

You could argue that Trump wants Iran to be somewhat stronger so he can sell more weapons to his MIC buddies and profit that way, therefore he pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal, and the weapons import/export sanctions on Iran expired. But that's a different and more brash method of managing Empire. It's different from Biden's "strategic de-escalation" policy with Iran via the Iran nuclear deal, but not that one that necessarily yields better results for Iran in the long term.

dave , Nov 7 2020 15:35 utc | 67

Calm down folks, the elected officials in the US have been puppets of the elite for the entire history of the country.
The problem we're facing is within the elite community and far above any government's control.

They didn't legalize drone striking "terrorists" any where on the globe by accident.
This means the elite are terrified of the fact that the internet and Trump both have exposed them for the morally bankrupt, greedy, mass murdering psychopaths they truly are.

The accidental presidency of Trump made them realize that their useful idiots(elected officials) where more idiots than useful and that they had to use the state sponsored monopolies in the press as well as their privately controlled publicly funded covert community to steer the narrative away from actual reality into their alternative commoditized version of reality.

Trump was never trying to defend America from the elite for the common man. He was trying to exploit the elite who had rejected him and his father for decades as well as cash in on their predicament in order to pay off his debts and start his own reality TV network.

I agree Trump was useful and informative but in the end he, like us is just along for the ride.

Don't do anything rash and don't for one second think a regime change in America is a rare occurrence. Remember the Kennedy's ?

The only way to win is to not become one of the elite's useful idiots by lashing out against another citizen. Poor and middle class only get the illusion they help decide policy.
The policy is decided and auctioned off within the billionaire funded think tanks and sent to the useful idiots in DC to be rubber stamped in order to trick you into thinking the legislative branch is legitimate. These people could f*ck up a two car parade and prove it over and over again.

Stay sane folks, the motives haven't changed in centuries and the elite are far more scared of us than they are the other elite's because they all know they're all cowards.

David , Nov 7 2020 15:37 utc | 69

In addition, considering Trump was supposedly a Russian puppet, Congress under his admin passed a bill which allowed the US to arm Ukraine against Russia even more.

GeorgeV , Nov 7 2020 15:39 utc | 70

Wonderful and thought provoking analysis of current political affairs b. However I would like to add that Biden and Trump are the products of political trends that have deep roots in modern US and world political affairs that have been ongoing for some 100 years or more. Biden and Trump did not occur in a vacuum. Both are products of the two world wars that were fought in the last century. More recently, the US since 1940 and continuing to the present day, has been actively preparing or fighting a major war somewhere on this planet. This development has in turn created a vast military and civilian bureaucracy that constantly needs to be fed a diet of real or imagined threats in order to survive.

[Nov 07, 2020] I call for a delegation from Bolivia to come and watch the elections in the USA and make sure they go as planned because clearly no one in the USA is capable of handling this

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

DG , Nov 6 2020 10:53 utc | 1

Irony is dead

"The U.S. urged leaders in Ivory Coast to stick to a "democratic" election process hours after President Trump prematurely declared victory."

I call for a delegation from Bolivia to come and watch the elections in the USA and make sure they go as planned because clearly no one in the USA is capable of handling this

[Nov 07, 2020] If Latinos turned out for Trump in record numbers, Biden can be consoled by the fact that dead people seem to have turned out for him in record numbers. Incredible turnout

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 6 2020 10:57 utc | 2

This tweet pretty much sums up the dysfunctionality of the election:

Dinesh D'Souza
@DineshDSouza
·
17h
If Latinos turned out for Trump in record numbers, Biden can be consoled by the fact that dead people seem to have turned out for him in record numbers. Incredible turnout! #ElectionResults2020

b

But hey, they found another bag of 'mailed in' ballots.

LOL. It's ok, Biden took the lead no need to "find" any more mail-in ballots.

[Nov 07, 2020] Mature mailin ballots often play around with the other ballots, and they produce an offspring of over a thousands baby ballots, and baby ballots take longer to count; so please just be patient.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

snake , Nov 6 2020 13:09 utc | 15

they found another bag of 'mailed in' ballots.

Mature ballots often play around with the other ballots, between them, they produce from one to over a thousands baby ballots, and baby ballots take longer to count; so please just be patient.

[Nov 07, 2020] U.S. Foreign Policy is a Failure, Whoever's President

It is not a failure. It is struggle for Full Spectrum Dominance, whoever is the President.
Nov 06, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org

The world recognizes what U.S. elites don't: the utter, total American failure to contain Covid-19 has damaged U.S. standing and will do so until the virus is controlled. Meanwhile, regional powers, China and Russia, cooperate and share resources, particularly vaccines. Cuba provides treatments, but the U.S. turns up its nose at Cuban medicine, even if it means more American covid patients die – this, though Cuba's pharmacopeia for this plague appears superior. China sends doctors and medicines across the globe. Russia opts for sane herd immunity – through vaccination. These countries act like adults. Not a good look for the U.S.

The Obama regime's deplorable trade and military "pivot to China," along with its sanctions against high-ranking Russians and Russian energy, financial and defense firms and the Trump regime's provocations, sanctions and insults aimed at both countries have now born fruit: There is talk of a military alliance between China and Russia. Both countries deny that such is in the offing, but the fact that it is even discussed reveals how effectively U.S. foreign policy has created enemies and united them. Even if they would have drawn closer anyway, China and Russia cannot ignore the advantage of teaming up in the face of U.S. hostility. A more idiotic approach than this hostility is scarcely imaginable. Remember, not too long ago the U.S. had little problem with its chief trading partner, China, and there were even reports some years back of actual military cooperation in Syria between the U.S. and Russia. All that is gone now, dissolved in a fog of deliberate ill-will.

So what are some of the absurd U.S. policies that have reaped this potential whirlwind? An utterly unnecessary trade war with China, with tariffs that were paid, not by China, but by importers and then passed on to American consumers. There is the Trump regime's assault on China's technology sector and its attempt to lockout Huawei from the 5G bonanza. Then there are the attacks on Russian business, like its deal to sell natural gas to Germany, attacks in which the U.S. insists Germany buy the much more expensive U.S. product to avoid becoming beholden to Russia. And of course, there are the constant mega-deals involving sales of U.S. weapons to anyone who might oppose China, Russia, North Korea or Iran.

Aggravating these economic assaults, the U.S. navy aggressively patrols the South China Sea, the Black Sea and more and more the Arctic Ocean, where Russia has already been since forever. Russia has a lengthy Siberian coast, making U.S. talk of Russia's so-called aggressive posture there just plain ludicrous. And now a NATO ally, Turkey, stirs the pot by egging on Azerbaijan in its war against Armenia, which has a defense treaty with Russia. Azerbaijan is famous for the oil fields of Baku.

Never has it been clearer that the U.S. deploys its military might to advance its corporations' interests, international law be damned. As General Smedley Butler wrote of his military service way back in the early 20 th century, he was "a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank Boys to collect revenues in," and on and on. Nothing has changed since them. It's only gotten worse. Indeed now we're in a position where it is Russia that abides by international law, while the U.S. flouts it, instead following something bogus it calls the "rules of the liberal international order."

The biggest and most consequential U.S. foreign policy failure involves nuclear weapons. Here the Trump regime has outdone all its predecessors. It withdrew the U.S. from the Intermediate Range Nuclear treaty, which banned land-based ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and certain missile launchers and which it first signed in 1987. It withdrew from the Open Skies Treaty, inked in 1992. That agreement allowed aircraft to fly over the signatories' territory to monitor missile installations.

Trump has also made clear he intends to deep-six the 2010 New Start Treaty with Russia, which limits nuclear warheads, nuclear armed bombers, intercontinental ballistic missiles and missile launchers. The Trump regime has made the ridiculous, treaty-killing demand that China participate in START talks. Why should it? China has 300 nuclear missiles, on a par with countries like the U.K. The U. S. and Russian have 6000 apiece. China's response? Sure we'll join START, as soon as the U.S. cuts its arsenal to 300. Naturally that went over like a lead balloon in Washington.

And now, lastly, the white house has urged nations that signed the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons – which just recently received formal UN ratification – to withdraw their approval. The U.S. spouted doubletalk about the TPNW's dangers, in order to head off international law banning nuclear weapons, just as it has banned – and thus stigmatized – chemical weapons, cluster bombs and germ warfare. Doubtless the Trump regime's panic over the TPNW derives from its desire to "keep all options on the table" militarily, including the nuclear one.

What is the point here? To make the unthinkable thinkable, to make nuclear war easier to happen. The Pentagon appears delighted. Periodically military bigwigs are quoted praising new smaller nuclear missiles, developed not for deterrence, but for use. Indeed, scrapping deterrence policy – which has, insofar as it posits no first use, arguably been the only thing keeping humanity alive and the planet habitable since the dangerous dawn of the atomic era – has long been the dream of Pentagon promoters of "small, smart nuclear weapons" for "limited" nuclear wars. How these geniuses would control such a move from escalating into a wider nuclear war and planetary holocaust is never mentioned.

Before he assumed office, Trump reportedly shocked his advisors by asking, if we have nuclear weapons, why can't we use them? Only someone dangerously ignorant or profoundly lacking in basic human morality could ask such a question. Only someone eager to ditch the human-species-saving policy of no-first-strike nuclear deterrence but willing to risk nuclear extinction could flirt with such madness. Later in his presidency, Trump asserted that he could end the war in Afghanistan easily if he wanted, hinting that he meant nukes, but that he did not incline toward murdering 10 million people. Well, thank God for this shred of humanity.

Some assume a Biden presidency would chart a different course, but they may be counting their chickens before they're hatched. Biden has made very hostile noises about Russia, China and North Korea and has surrounded himself with neo-con hawks. He has so far made no promise to return to the nuclear negotiating table for anything other than START. Would he try to resuscitate the INF and Open Skies treaties? Would he end Trump regime blather aimed at scotching TPNW? Maybe. Or he may have imbibed so much anti-Russia and anti-China poison that he, like Trump, sees the absence of treaties as a green light for nuclear aggression.

Biden's official Foreign Policy Plan says that he regards the purpose of nuclear weapons as deterrence, thus endorsing this at best very flawed compromise for survival. That he, apparently unlike Trump, abjures a nuclear first strike is a huge relief, but how long will it last? The Pentagon has been very persuasive over many decades of center-right rule and there is no reason to assume that it will suddenly adopt a hands-off policy with Biden just because he favors nuclear deterrence. Some military-industrial-complex sachems regard the no-first-use principle as a mistake. Also, remember, Obama okayed a trillion-dollar nuclear arms upgrade. Biden was his vp. What about that? This is no minor, petty concern. Russia is armed to the teeth with supersonic nuclear weapons and China has concluded from U.S. belligerence that it better arm up too. We are in dangerous waters here. Let's hope they don't become radioactive.

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[Nov 07, 2020] The US version of lesser evilism

Nov 07, 2020 | www.grunge.com

A Pew poll indicated that roughly half of Clinton and Trump supporters were more motivated by opposing the other side's candidate than backing their own.

Read More: https://www.grunge.com/126290/the-craziest-cases-of-election-fraud-in-u-s-history/?utm_campaign=clip

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump voters are "protest voters" -- they are tied to the protest against neoliberalism, not so much to Trump personally. So many Trump voters are against both Parties: Both D and R party establishment are neoliberal in economic outlook.

Nov 07, 2020 | crookedtimber.org

likbez 11.06.20 at 7:51 pm

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

@reason 11.04.20 at 4:26 pm

It seems to me there were a surprisingly large number who voted against Trump for down ticket Republicans. Looks like the Democrats didn't tie the Republican party to Trump as much as they should have done.

IMHO Trump voters are "protest voters" -- they are tied to the protest against neoliberalism, not so much to Trump personally. So many Trump voters are against both Parties: Both D and R party establishment are neoliberal in economic outlook.

In reality "Trump voters" are ready to vote for anyone who will hold pharma, big Ag, monopolies, insurance companies, etc accountable for the financial harm they've caused to the 90% of the people. That means that both parties will work like hell to prevent any candidate like that from getting to the general election. See Dem establishment vs, Sanders and Warren.

Democrats ran a status quo neoliberal candidate and expected a radical result. That did not happen.

[Nov 07, 2020] This is the essence of it. When you actually drill down, the things both Democrat and Republican voters want much the same things and that is more collectivism. They want more collectivism on social matters and they want more collectivism on economic matters. They want society back.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Altai , Nov 6 2020 13:28 utc | 19

Both the social 'conservatism' and economic 'progressivism' on offer tend to be welded to highly unpopular opposites. If you want immigration control (Which is both a social and economic issue but only framed in social terms effectively) and an end to insane post-modern SJW identity politics, you're obliged to also vote for people who will further deregulate the economy and give tax cuts to the wealthy. If you want social democrat politics you're obliged to vote for people who will further promote insane anti-social solidarity post-modern SJW politics and unending mass migration that are counter-productive, perhaps fatality so, to their social democratic agenda. (See AOC and her wishes for literal open borders and full Nordic-style social democrat welfare state)

The currency of a system of economic redistribution within a democracy is the willingness of those with resources to give to those without. The 'progressive' Democrats in the US are hooked on this ideal of expanding welfare but that doesn't empower the poor because they're depended on those with resources to support taxes to give them it. Industrial policy and immigration restriction (Both to decrease job competition and to make the recipients of resource redistribution more sympathetic to those with resources) to actually shift the real wealth and power in society is far more important.

A synthesis on at least immigration restriction and progressive economic policies like banking regulations, trade reform and industrial policy would be highly popular and is entirely open ground to take. In 2016 Trump became the first person to make that offer in stark form in 40 years and despite all the ammo the media and intellectual class were able to throw at him, he beat Hilary Clinton. Bernie and Corbyn both understand this synthesis and have spoken of it in the past but now are trapped in political apparatuses that make any mention of immigration and the economic and social interests of the native working class totally impermissible. Worse, they wed them to an ideal of ever expanding immigration that will rip apart any social solidarity needed for socialist or social democrat policies since the new group interests of the native working class will be battling the newcomers for social and economic space.

A great deal of American 'Libertarians' are actually quite community oriented and are infact just not in favour of their taxes being redistributed to outgroups whom they don't have any sense of social solidarity with. Ask them what should be done in their community and they start sounding like Bernie Sanders. They view the Federal government as an alien thing that will take from them and give to alien outgroups.People will say they're being 'duped' but I think those people just don't understand that people are born out of ethnic groups not class groups, ethnicity is more important and we might expect it to be so given human evolution.

[Nov 07, 2020] $15.00 minimal wage after most small businesses are teetering on the brink due to lockdowns won't end well.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Old and Grumpy , Nov 6 2020 13:37 utc | 22

Kadath: The GOP has been silent on the presidential election. As a whole the GOP did well this election. The GOP interpretation going forward is a mix of Chamber Commerce's financial and immigration policies mixed with Neocon's spreading of democracy thru bombs and ballot harvesting. In other words their world is getting righted by the steal. Absolutely no doubt in my mind the GOP is in on the whole thing. Deep State wins.

$15.00 minimal wage after most small businesses are teetering on the brink due to lockdowns won't end well. It will end with bankruptcy and unemployment, a preference for hiring "illegals", or if possible an investment in automation. Why is that so hard to understand? Nor are you going to get the "rich" with this scheme.

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump as fake populist

Highly recommended!
Nov 07, 2020 | crookedtimber.org

Tm 11.05.20 at 9:42 am ( 13 )

Liberals and progressives have to face the inconvenient truth: Trump is no accident. The people who still vote for him or even just voted for him for the first time knew what they were voting for. They are not a majority but a large minority of about 46% of Americans. This cannot be explained as people duped by fake populism. Trump had four years to make even the slightest gesture of populism (*) – the minimum wage, infrastructure spending, closing tax loopholes, whatever. There was nothing and plenty of the opposite. This is government for the plutocracy by the plutocracy. No factory jobs came back to the rustbelt.

Yet roughly the same percentage of voters still stand by their man. They may claim otherwise when asked (oh those reliable polls and surveys) but this vote is in no shape or form economically motivated. Trump's platform is racism and white supremacy and hatred and that is what his people voted for.

(*) Let's take this opportunity to call out the ugly habit of many journalists to use populism as a polite synonym for racism. Populism is economic policy benefiting working people to the detriment of the rich. Or just any policy that materially benefits the lower strata of society. Racism isn't populism.

likbez 11.06.20 at 6:13 am (
16
)

I understood perfectly well, because Nate Silver kept insisting on it, that statistically there was a non-trivial chance that Trump would win

The most interesting scenario now what will happen if Trump lose and Biden (or whoever is the political force behind him) faces hostile Senate. And possibly both hostile Senate and the House in 2022.

Blue wave did not happen. That's a fact. And that fact alone makes Biden victory, if any, Pyrrhic. Putting Biden administration in a very precarious position, worse then Trump in 2016. With the real possibility of launching "Chinagate" against him, using Russiagate template. A special prosecutor and such.

Epidemic and connected with it recession are not over. Senate is controlled by Republicans. Relation with China deteriorates and with Russia became outright hostile.

That's enough rope to hang anybody.

[Nov 07, 2020] Both Democrat and Republican voters want much the same things and that is more collectivism. They want more collectivism on social matters and they want more collectivism on economic matters. They want society back from neoliberal capture

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Altai , Nov 6 2020 13:28 utc | 19

This is the essence of it. When you actually drill down, the things both Democrat and Republican voters want much the same things and that is more collectivism. They want more collectivism on social matters and they want more collectivism on economic matters. They want society back.

Both the social 'conservatism' and economic 'progressivism' on offer tend to be welded to highly unpopular opposites. If you want immigration control (Which is both a social and economic issue but only framed in social terms effectively) and an end to insane post-modern SJW identity politics, you're obliged to also vote for people who will further deregulate the economy and give tax cuts to the wealthy. If you want social democrat politics you're obliged to vote for people who will further promote insane anti-social solidarity post-modern SJW politics and unending mass migration that are counter-productive, perhaps fatality so, to their social democratic agenda. (See AOC and her wishes for literal open borders and full Nordic-style social democrat welfare state)

The currency of a system of economic redistribution within a democracy is the willingness of those with resources to give to those without. The 'progressive' Democrats in the US are hooked on this ideal of expanding welfare but that doesn't empower the poor because they're depended on those with resources to support taxes to give them it. Industrial policy and immigration restriction (Both to decrease job competition and to make the recipients of resource redistribution more sympathetic to those with resources) to actually shift the real wealth and power in society is far more important.

A synthesis on at least immigration restriction and progressive economic policies like banking regulations, trade reform and industrial policy would be highly popular and is entirely open ground to take. In 2016 Trump became the first person to make that offer in stark form in 40 years and despite all the ammo the media and intellectual class were able to throw at him, he beat Hilary Clinton. Bernie and Corbyn both understand this synthesis and have spoken of it in the past but now are trapped in political apparatuses that make any mention of immigration and the economic and social interests of the native working class totally impermissible. Worse, they wed them to an ideal of ever expanding immigration that will rip apart any social solidarity needed for socialist or social democrat policies since the new group interests of the native working class will be battling the newcomers for social and economic space.

A great deal of American 'Libertarians' are actually quite community oriented and are infact just not in favour of their taxes being redistributed to outgroups whom they don't have any sense of social solidarity with. Ask them what should be done in their community and they start sounding like Bernie Sanders. They view the Federal government as an alien thing that will take from them and give to alien outgroups.People will say they're being 'duped' but I think those people just don't understand that people are born out of ethnic groups not class groups, ethnicity is more important and we might expect it to be so given human evolution.

[Nov 07, 2020] The US is essentially another colony to the multinationals

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Les , Nov 6 2020 19:30 utc | 121

The US is essentially another colony to the multinationals who can set up domiciles in tax havens, bribe politicians to enact favorable laws, and lobby for spending to enrich themselves. That's the reality, not the liberals versus conservatives. They also have the benefit of an unelected body that can enrich them through printing money which gives them more power to stop other fiscal stimulus. It's evident in much of the world where this is going on in the West. It is a variation of the Economic Shock Therapy applied by the West, except that the oligarchs are spared from the economic shock.

[Nov 07, 2020] And this was the country that accused Venezuelan election for being fraudulent !

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Peppino Fiori , says: November 6, 2020 at 11:06 am GMT • 2.3 hours ago

and this was the country that accused Venezuelan election for being fraudulent !

[Nov 07, 2020] a much more nefarious form of life

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Scott Ritter is unfortunately right :

In the end, the future of the United States and, in many ways, the rest of the world, will be decided not by the American voter, but a much more nefarious form of life – the American lawyer.

[Nov 07, 2020] Will we see a impeach Biden/Harris movement in 2022, if the Republicans take the house?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kadath , Nov 6 2020 12:40 utc | 12

thanks for your analysis b, since it now looks certain that the Democrats stole this election, what do you think the long term consequences of this will be for the US

I doubt the Trump supporters will ever accept Biden/Harris what will they do over the next few years.

Will we see a impeach Biden/Harris movement in 2022, if the Republicans take the house?

[Nov 07, 2020] A modest wish from Michigan AG Dana Nessel: Please stop calling 1 (517) 335-7622 and telling us to stick Sharpies up our àssès

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Kyle Becker @kylenabecker

Swing state voting irregularities:

Something is definitely off.


JoePesci , 21 minutes ago

You don't get it, they perpetrated fraud in broad daylight. There is no secrecy. You don't need to study it. It is a brazen seizure of power, message of intimidation, and demonstration that the general populace is too mentally and physically weak to put up any resistance, and that they system is so rotten no one would risk anything to defend it. This is a classic socialist takeover. Our species repeats itself over and over. Go read about the October Revolution, French Revolution, Red Revolution, or a dozen other Revolutions. What follows is equally predictable. Redistribuion. Angry retributive terror. 5 year brutal civil war. Political infighting. Power struggle. Totalitarianism. Total enslavement of 99.999% of people. The answer....i dont know. The right wing resistance loses the civil war, not that it shouldn't be fought, but that is what will happen. No matter how armed or well trained militarily they are. If you have any creative ideas to resist this movement, you could save humanity and change it forever by stopping this repetitious cycle.

ZENDOG , 18 minutes ago

That's nice.....now repeat after me.....

"Kamala is the president."

mtumba , 7 minutes ago

Then, repeat after me: "Kamala's handlers are president."

Obamaroid Ointment , 8 minutes ago

Michigan AG Dana Nessel: Please stop calling 1 (517) 335-7622 and telling us to stick Sharpies up our àssès.

Give Me Some Truth , 16 minutes ago

Remember, Hillary and all the Democrats (and virtually all the press) said that Trump "stole" an election with a few Russian troll Facebook ads (that nobody saw).

Here, Trump's supporters are saying there was an organized effort in heavy-Democratic/urban centers - just in Swing States - to harvest illegal votes in a myriad of well-known ways.

DaBard51 , 21 minutes ago

DuckDuckGo gives this as the most relevant when search term is

"History of disputed Election Results"

https://www.britannica.com/event/United-States-presidential-election-of-1876/The-disputed-election

What does Google or Bing show?

When nine hundred years old you become, look this good you will not.

[Nov 07, 2020] Sanders beats Biden in Florida

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Simon , Nov 6 2020 11:29 utc | 5

The results in Florida seem to confirm that take:

@TravisMenard00 - 3:13 UTC · Nov 6, 2020

Bernie Sanders: "We need a federal minimum wage of at least $15/hr."

Joe Biden: "I beat the Socialist!"

Florida: *Votes for $15 statewide minimum wage, and *not* Joe Biden*

Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is not socialism. It is an insurance policy, brought to you by capitalism. Bernie Sanders is not a socialist. He is a capitalist and a sheepdog for the Democrats. His only role is to corral the progressive vote for his party. He is a complete fraud and he will hand the baton of fraudster to Ocasio Cortez at some time in the future.

[Nov 07, 2020] What a stroke of luck.

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Stonebird , Nov 6 2020 13:34 utc | 20

Quote; Democrat Abigail Spanberger was losing her race to a Republican challenger until 14,000 ballots were suddenly found on a flash drive. What a stroke of luck.

14000 ballots on a flash drive"
The "gift" that does not stop giving.

[Nov 07, 2020] Supporters of the Democratic Party are mainly demotic elites who benefit from globalization and liberalization of the global economy, and those who support the Republican Party are middle- and lower-class people, and religious conservatives

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karlof1 , Nov 6 2020 18:58 utc | 113

Wow! Today's Global Times editorial about the election and its outcome is very perceptive in its entirety making it very hard to determine an excerpt. I decided on the center 4 paragraphs as they're a coherent whole:

"Every society has internal divergences and contradictions. The design of the US system indulges and even encourages the fermentation of contradictions. Mechanisms help maintain the balance between interests and power. For a long time, this performed relatively well, but new challenges are changing the conditions of US mechanisms, and changing relations between the effectiveness of US mechanisms and the difficulties US society faces.

"The fundamental change is that the US has been consuming its accumulated advantages against the backdrop of globalization. Its pattern of interests has been fixated, and the overall competitiveness of the country has been sliding. The welfare it has made for the people cannot match people's demands and expectations. The mechanism that distributes interests solidifies and further erodes social ability of promoting unity.

"In the internet era, identity politics is rising. People can easily feel that their rights are deprived because they are from a certain social class. Maintaining social unity has become an increasingly arduous and sensitive task. Obviously, the US needs political reforms more than many other countries to enhance its ability to promote unity.

"But in the past four years, the Trump administration, incited by the US election system, has pushed the country into a risky path where it enhances division to boost the existing pattern of political interests. There are so many social woes in US society, be it between different races and classes, between new immigrants and old ones, and between different regions, let alone partisan. But now the objective of society has been cast on Trump's reelection. This objective has to a great extent squeezed the room of US society to pursue maximum common interests."

But I really insist reading the entire editorial.

In an op/ed by a professor at the Center for American Studies of Fudan University, we learn what some close observers from outside see as the primary contradictions within the Outlaw US Empire:

"There are two main contradictions in the US. First, contradictions between the whites and ethnic minorities. The advantageous position of the whites continues to decrease and they would lose their dominance over the country in the future. This makes their tolerance and confidence in ethnic minorities decrease as well. The ratio of the population of ethnic minorities is rising. This increases their demand for equality and rights.

"It is normal for ethnic minorities to demand for corresponding political, social, economic and cultural positions, but this will pose a severe challenge to the cultural, religious and racial nature of the US. As the US population continues to lose balance, related conflicts will break out or even become a periodic and escalating crisis.

"Second, contradictions between elites and ordinary people. Supporters of the Democratic Party are mainly demotic elites who benefit from globalization and liberalization of the global economy, and those who support the Republican Party are middle- and lower-class people, and religious conservatives. This is very clear in the county-based electoral maps. Trump-supporting counties that are vast, under populated and economically backward, surround cities and counties that support the Democratic Party, while Democrat-dominated counties and cities use their economic and population advantages to lead the political pattern in some states. The contradictions between elites and ordinary people will not end with the election."

Not stated clearly IMO is that these contradictions are Centrifugal in their affects on the overall society thus impeding attempts to reform the polity and gain control over the forces exerting actual control that are beyond government.

[Nov 06, 2020] Is Mike Pompeo the Worst Secretary of State in History by DOUG BANDOW

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With his laughable attempts at diplomacy and general hawkishness, he's certainly in the runnings for the honor. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaks at a press conference at the State Department in Washington, DC, on October 21, 2020. (Photo by NICHOLAS KAMM/POOL/AFP via Getty Images) |

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Is Mike Pompeo the worst secretary of state ever? He's been awful, no doubt. However, there are 69 other contenders for that title.

Among modern secretaries, Colin Powell was misused by George W. Bush, who defrauded the country in selling the tragically misbegotten invasion of Iraq. Madeleine Albright, her mindset permanently stuck in Adolf Hitler's world, stands out for her enthusiastic embrace of war for others to fight. Alexander Haig achieved little beyond claiming to be in charge in the wake of the assassination attempt against Ronald Reagan. William Rogers was overshadowed by National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger, who eventually took the latter's position.

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Going back a bit further, Robert Lansing helped maneuver the U.S. into World War I, one of the dumbest, most counterproductive moves in American history. The earlier one looks, the more circumstances diverge, making any comparative judgment more difficult.

Still, about the best that can be said of Pompeo is that he has not gotten America into any new wars, despite his best efforts. Most often he has played the anti-diplomat, determined to insult, hector, demand, insist, dictate, threaten, harangue, and impose. But never persuade. The results speak for themselves: the administration's record lacks any notable successes that benefit the U.S, the supposed purpose of an "America First" foreign policy. There was a bit of good, a lot of bad, and some real ugly.

A solid good was President Donald Trump's most important diplomatic initiative: his opening with North Korea. Pompeo took over in March 2018, with the first summit already planned. That initiative faltered the following year at the second summit in Hanoi, which was Pompeo's responsibility.

Alas, the secretary lost points by apparently doing nothing to disabuse the president of the belief that Pyongyang was prepared to turn over its entire arsenal with the hope that Washington would look favorably upon its future aspirations. That was never going to happen, especially after the allied double-cross of Libya, which yielded its missiles and nascent nuclear program, and after Trump dumped the nuclear accord with Iran, demanding that Tehran abjectly surrender its independent foreign policy. The North can easily imagine similar mistreatment, by this or a future administration.

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Washington has also pursued better relations with India, which is a positive. As elsewhere, however, concern about human rights violations is almost entirely absent from Pompeo's portfolio unless it operates as a weapon against an adversary. The secretary cheerfully holds the coat of allied dictators as they jail, torture, and murder. Such is the case with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has abetted if not aided rising religious persecution.

The Abrahamic accords between Israel and Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates were a tepid good. Improved relations between Arabs and Israelis are useful, though strengthening two authoritarian regimes is not. The Bahraini Sunni monarchy sits atop a Shia population with the backing of the Saudi military, while the Emirates, nicknamed "Little Sparta," by the Pentagon -- as if that's a compliment -- has used its military to commit murder and mayhem against Yemen in a war of political aggression and economic exploitation. The related negotiations with Sudan have been worse, using an unjust terrorist state designation to force recognition of Israel, which will undermine the democracy that has yet to be fully born after last year's popular revolution.

Examples of bad are far more common. For example, Pompeo has worked to thwart the president's evident desire to exit "endless wars." Nineteen years of nation-building in Afghanistan is enough. The U.S. does not belong in the Syrian civil war. Iraq and its neighbors are capable of and should deal with whatever remains of the Islamic State.

The secretary has played an equally malign role in Europe, undercutting his boss -- and, not incidentally, the American people -- by working to spend more on, and place more troops in, the continent, even as Trump pushed the Europeans to do more on their own defense. This is an inane strategy: Washington should cut defense welfare to states with the capability to protect themselves and allow them to decide how to proceed.

Much the same policy has played out with America's relationship to South Korea. Japan has escaped most of that pressure. Yet consider the defensive capabilities against China for Japan and the region if Tokyo spent not 1 percent of GDP on its military, but 2 or 3 percent. And why shouldn't it do so, instead of expecting Americans to do the job for it?

The secretary turned human rights into a political weapon, sacrificing any credibility on the issue. He tears up while criticizing Iran but kowtows to the Saudi royals, who are far more brutal killers. He is horrified by the crimes committed by Venezuela's Maduro regime, but spreads love to Egypt's Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who has punished the slightest criticism, and Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who is turning Turkey into an autocracy. Pompeo actually introduced a new initiative in support of unalienable rights with the support of countries like Saudi Arabia and other assorted tyrannies.

Then there is the ugly. Using sanctions to try starve the people of Syria and Venezuela in order to force their governments to yield to America is not just immoral but ineffective. Both regimes have survived much and are not inclined to surrender.

At least Venezuela is a matter of geographic interest to Washington. Syria has never mattered to U.S. security and Pompeo should have backed the president's effort to bring home all American troops. Today, U.S. and Russian troops are clashing there over the administration's bizarre and illegal seizure of Syrian oilfields. Also inexplicable is reinforcing six decades of failure by tightening sanctions on Cuba; the private business community there has suffered badly as a result, reducing what was becoming a sharp challenge to the political authorities during the waning days of the Obama administration.

The fixation on Iran, which appears to come more from Pompeo than Trump, can best be explained as turning Mideast policy over to Saudi Arabia and Israel. The result of abandoning the nuclear accord has been nothing short of catastrophic. The Iranians have refused to negotiate. Instead they ramped up nuclear reprocessing, interfered with Gulf tanker traffic, attacked Saudi oil facilities, and attacked U.S. bases and the embassy in Iraq. Far from reestablishing deterrence, as claimed, the secretary was left to whimper and whine that he might have to close America's embassy in Baghdad.

Pompeo has taken the lead in the administration's shameful policy toward Saudi Arabia, aiding it in its war of aggression against impoverished Yemen. That nation has been at war within and without for most of its existence. Riyadh decided to invade to restore a puppet regime to power, turning typical internal discord into a sectarian war in which Tehran was able to bleed the ineffective Saudi armed forces, which were armed and aided by the Pentagon. In this way, the secretary has made the American population into accomplices to war crimes.

Even more foolish geopolitically, Pompeo has matched Albright's retreat to World War II clichés with a stroll back into the Cold War. Russia is an unpleasant actor but doesn't threaten American security. Europe is capable of defending itself. Alas, constantly piling on sanctions without providing an off-ramp ensures continued Russian hostility and a tilt toward China in that burgeoning struggle. How does this make any sense for America?

Finally, Pompeo has been his blundering, maladroit, offensive self in seeking to launch an American-led campaign against the People's Republic of China. Beijing poses a serious challenge, but not primarily a security issue. No one believes that the PRC plans to launch an armada across the Pacific to conquer Hawaii. The issue is Washington's willingness to pay the cost to forever treat Asia-Pacific waters as an American lake.

As for other issues, the U.S. needs work in concert with friendly powers. Pompeo has done his best to drive away potential partners: for instance, the G-7 refused his demand to call COVID-19 the Wuhan Virus and even allies such as South Korea have remained far more measured in their relations with China, determined not to turn their large neighbor into an enemy. In what promises to be a long and complicated relationship, genuine and serious diplomacy, which obviously lies beyond Pompeo's limited capabilities, is required.

On the personal side, he appears to have abused his position for both personal and ideological advantage. For example, so committed to showing his fealty to Riyadh, he declared an "emergency" to thwart congressional opposition and rush munitions to the Saudi military so it could kill more Yemeni civilians. He then sought to impede a departmental investigation, pressuring and firing the inspector general. What prompted his determination to so avidly assist a ruler who is ostentatiously vile, reckless, and even criminal is one of the greatest mysteries of his tenure.

Tragically, Pompeo proved to be one of the greatest obstacles to the best of the president's international agenda. In a speech delivered last year in which he claimed to be implementing the Founders' foreign policy vision, he denigrated diplomacy and its successful fruits, such as opening up both Cuba and Iran to potentially corrosive outside influences, which is the most likely strategy to induce change over the long term. This approach would be more in sync with Trump's desire to deal with countries such as North Korea and Iran.

Indeed, left to his own devices, Pompeo would likely have America at war with Iran and perhaps beyond -- Venezuela, China, and/or Russia. His belligerence serves the American people badly. As does his consistent campaign, conscious or not, to thwart the president's brave but incompetent attempts to escape largely braindead practices enforced by what Ben Rhodes termed "the Blob," the foreign policy establishment that dominates the field.

The secretary has forgotten that his job is not to push his personal ideological line. Rather, it is to advance the interests of the American people, with a special emphasis on defending their lives, territory, liberties, constitutional system, and prosperity. In this, he has failed consistently. Maybe he isn't the worst secretary of state in history. But surely he is one of the worst.

Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. A former special assistant to President Ronald Reagan, he is the author of Foreign Follies: America's New Global Empire .

[Nov 06, 2020] Why Are These Anti-Russian And Anti-Chinese Narratives So Similar by Bernard

Nov 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Why Are These Anti-Russian And Anti-Chinese Narratives So Similar?

After more than four years of Russiagate we finally learn (paywalled original ) where the Steele dossier allegations about nefarious relations between Trump and Russia came from:

A Wall Street Journal investigation provides an answer: a 40-year-old Russian public-relations executive named Olga Galkina fed notes to a friend and former schoolmate who worked for Mr. Steele.​ The Journal relied on interviews, law-enforcement records, declassified documents and the identification of Ms. Galkina by a former top U.S. national security official.

In 2016, Ms. Galkina was working in Cyprus at an affiliate of XBT Holding SA, a web-services company best known for its Webzilla internet hosting unit. XBT is owned by Russian internet entrepreneur Aleksej Gubarev.

That summer, she received a request from an employee of Mr. Steele to help unearth potentially compromising information on then-presidential candidate Donald Trump 's links to Russia, according to people familiar with the matter. Ms. Galkina was friends with the employee, Igor Danchenko, since their school days in Perm, a Russian provincial city near the Ural mountains.

Ms. Galkina often came drunk to work and eventually got fired by her company. She took revenge by alleging that the company and its owner Gubarev were involved in the alleged hacking of the Democratic National Committee. A bunch of other false allegations in the dossier were equally based on Ms. Galkina's fantasies.

Mark Ames @MarkAmesExiled - 18:39 UTC · Oct 28, 2020

So the Steele Dossier that kicked off 4 years of Russiagate hysteria among the US ruling class was cooked up by two Russian alcoholics from Perm. "Gogolesque" does not begin to describe the grotesque credulity & stupidity of the American elites.

The tales in the dossier were real disinformation from Russians but not ' Russian disinformation ' of the American Newspeak variant.

The FBI, and others involved, knew very early on that the Steele dossier was a bunch of lies. But the issue was kept in the public eyes by continues leaks of additional nonsense. All this was to press Trump to take more and more anti-Russian measures which he did with unprecedented generosity . The accusations about a Trump-Russia connection were the 'Russia bad' narrative that pressed and allowed Trump to continue the anti-Russian policies of the Obama/Biden administration.

A similar string of continuous policies from the Obama/Biden administration's 'Pivot to Asia' and throughout the four years of Trump is the anti-China campaign.

We now hear a lot about Hunter and Joe Biden's corrupt deals with Chinese entities. These accusations come with more evidence and are far more plausible than the stupid Steele dossier claims. Their importance is again twofold. They will be used to press a potential President Joe Biden to act against China but they will primarily be used to intensify a public anti-China narrative that creates public support for such policies.

As Caitlin Johnstone points out :

I don't know how or at what level, but we are being played. A narrative is being aggressively rammed down our throats about China in exactly the same way it was being aggressively rammed down our throats about Russia four years ago; two unabsorbed nations the US government has long had plans to attack and undermine .
Russiagate was never really about Trump. It was never about his campaign staff meeting with Russians, it was never about a pee tape, it was never about an investigation into any kind of hidden loyalties to the Kremlin. Russiagate was about narrative managing the United States into a new cold war with Russia with the ultimate target being its far more powerful ally China, and ensuring that Trump played along with that agenda.
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If Biden gets in we can expect the same thing: a president who advances escalations against both Russia and China while being accused of the other party of being soft on China. Both parties will have their foot on the gas toward brinkmanship with a nuclear-armed nation, with no one's foot anywhere near the brakes.

It is thus assured that the verbal attacks on China , the search for new anti-China allies like the Hindu-fascist India and the dangerous weaponizing of Taiwan will all continue under a Biden administration.

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[Nov 06, 2020] Can a Biden presidency put an end to Russiagate, or will Democrats continue to wield Neo-McCarthyism to consolidate power- -- RT Russia Former Soviet Union

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Can a Biden presidency put an end to Russiagate, or will Democrats continue to wield Neo-McCarthyism to consolidate power? 6 Nov, 2020 09:39 Get short URL Can a Biden presidency put an end to Russiagate, or will Democrats continue to wield Neo-McCarthyism to consolidate power? FILE PHOTOS. © Sputnik / Alexander Wilf ; REUTERS / Kevin Lamarque 26 Follow RT on RT

By Glenn Diesen , an Associate Professor at the University of South-Eastern Norway and an editor at the Russia in Global Affairs journal. Follow him on Twitter @glenndiesen Will Biden's apparent election victory mean the end of Russiagate and the restoration of normal democratic discourse in the US, or will opponents of the status quo continue to be branded as Kremlin patsies by the elite?

Despite the hysteria it unleashed in the press, Russiagate didn't reveal any actual collusion between US President Donald Trump and the Russian government, although it did expose how democratic institutions are threatened by corruption in the political-media class. What happens when the anti-Russia barrage is used to target the political opposition?

The information war between the West and Russia inevitably tears away at democratic institutions. The anti-Russia foreign policy consensus, cultivated throughout the Cold War, has been one of the few areas enjoying bipartisan support. The absence of counter-perspectives enabled a rot to fester in elite circles as accusations against Russia go unchallenged.

What would happen if a political leader broke with the foreign policy consensus? In 2016, this question was answered as Trump ran on a platform of getting along with Russia and even questioning the necessity of NATO, a military bloc designed to contain an adversary that no longer exists.

Russiagate 1.0 – Election collusion

Hillary Clinton saw an opportunity to discredit Trump by concocting a conspiracy theory. Declassified notes prove that CIA Director John Brennan briefed then-President Barack Obama about how Clinton fabricated the Russian-Trump conspiracy theory as "a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server" and "to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service."

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The source of 'Russiagate' was the infamous Steele Dossier. In 2016, the Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS to find dirt on Trump, which was subcontracted to former British spook Christopher Steele. What could possibly go wrong with hiring the former head of the Russia Desk at MI6, with a job description that also entailed disseminating disinformation?

Former National Security Agency Technical Director Bill Binney proved that the Democratic National Committee servers were never hacked, and the Mueller report drove the final stake through the heart of the Steele Dossier. Yet, Steele's outrageous claims based on hearsay and third-hand gossip should have been dismissed immediately.

An ongoing investigation explores why the FBI and CIA did not reject the flawed report. In his congressional testimony to explain how this fake dossier led to the surveillance of Trump, former FBI Director James Comey claimed 245 times that he "can't recall," "can't remember," and "doesn't know." Yet, the narrative of Russiagate lives on, as much of the media wants it to be true.

ALSO ON RT.COM 'Not the case at all': Kremlin lambasts Biden's assertion that main threat to US is Russia, wants further cooperation

Any opposition to the narrative could be dismissed with an ad hominem attack and accusations of carrying water for Putin. The political left – traditionally skeptical of the intrusive influence of the security state and a compliant media manufacturing consent – reinvented itself by denouncing criticism of the CIA as blasphemy and demands for press accountability as an attack on democracy.

Russiagate 2.0 – the Biden scandal

The Biden laptop scandal, breaking immediately before the presidential election, sparked a swift return to the old Russiagate formula. The pay-to-play corruption scheme of the Biden family was not the most interesting revelation; rather, it was the rapid response of the security state and the media.

The story began when Hunter Biden, Joe's son, left his laptop at a computer repair shop for over 90 days, and ownership of the laptop was then transferred to the repairman in accordance with the agreement. The technician, concerned about the content, contacted the FBI. Due to the lack of response, the technician then sent a copy of the hard drive to Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York and current lawyer of Trump. Giuliani shared some of the content with the New York Post, which published the alleged evidence of corruption.

Twitter and Facebook reacted immediately with censorship. The newspaper's story could not be shared by anyone and the New York Post, one of the oldest publications in the US, had its Twitter account suspended. One after another, various media outlets dismissed the article as Russian disinformation to justify why Facebook and Twitter had censored the news.

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Thus, Facebook and Twitter could then refer to the media reports dismissing it as a Russian disinformation campaign. Subsequently, the circular reporting created a false confirmation. Fifty former intelligence officers who signed a letter claiming the incident was probably Russian disinformation further substantiated this narrative.

Unlike the first Russiagate, the narrative of Russiagate 2.0 simply made no sense. Never mind the lack of any evidence – there was not even a theory. This time it was not even possible to invent a hypothetical situation where Russia played a role. It is proven that Hunter Biden handed the laptop to the repairman, and the repairman handed the content to the FBI and Giuliani. The accusation of 'Russian disinformation' made little sense when the material is real and there is no possible role for Russia in the scandal.

Can the democratic process be restored?

Democracy demands that the process is more important than the outcome. Yet, this logic was challenged with the premise that a Trump presidency entails the dismantlement of democracy. Then the end justifies the means, and journalists increasingly deemed their responsibility to report in a manner that would bring down a man they see as an 'Orange Hitler'.

ALSO ON RT.COM Comments by Russia on US election like 'red rag to a bull' but uncertainty 'could negatively affect global affairs,' Kremlin says

With the return of the old guard, the utility of the Russian boogeyman in US politics can come to an end. Can the Humpty Dumpty of democratic institutions be put together once Trump is removed, or will the goalpost merely be moved by going after future Trumps?

Jill Stein, Bernie Sanders, 'Moscow Mitch' McConnell, and Tulsi Gabbard have all been accused of the grave crime of being agents or stooges of the Kremlin for failing to fall in line. Whistleblowers and publishers like Edward Snowden and Julian Assange were denounced by security institutions and the media as Russian agents.

Will a Biden presidency put an end to Russiagate and restore democratic institutions, or intensify the neo-McCarthyism of the past four years to consolidate power?

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[Nov 06, 2020] Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey should be ARRESTED for censoring Trump's tweets, former White House strategist Steve Bannon says

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Zanon , Nov 5 2020 20:52 utc | 150

Social media's public support for the democrats and their supporters is clear election meddling, its time republicans - that get more and more censored by social media giants fight back against this bias.

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey should be ARRESTED for censoring Trump's tweets, former White House strategist Steve Bannon says
https://www.rt.com/usa/505774-steve-bannon-trump-jack-dorsey/

Trump will still be president until end of january, perhaps he will deal with this propaganda outlets by the repeal of 230

Section 230: What the law is and why Trump wants to repeal it
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/section-230-what-the-law-is-and-why-trump-wants-to-repeal-it

[Nov 06, 2020] Why Capitalism Was Destined to Come Out on Top in the 2020 Election

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No matter who "won" the U.S. election, what will not change is the capitalist organization of the country's economy.

The great majority of enterprises will continue to be owned and operated by a small minority of Americans. They will continue to use their positions atop the capitalist system to expand their wealth, "economize their labor costs," and thereby deepen the United States' inequalities of wealth and income.

The employer class will continue to use its wealth to buy, control, and shape the nation's politics to prevent the employee class from challenging their ownership and operation of the economic system. Indeed, for a very long time, they have made sure that (1) only two political parties dominate the government and (2) both enthusiastically commit to preserving and supporting the capitalist system. For capitalism, the question of which party wins matters only to how capitalism will be supported, not whether that support will be a top governmental priority.

No matter who won, the private sector and the government will continue their shared failure to overcome capitalism's socially destructive instability. Economic crashes ("downturns," "busts," "recessions," and "depressions") will continue to occur on average every four to seven years, disrupting our economy and society. Already in this young century, we have endured, across Republicans and Democrats, three crashes (2000, 2008, and 2020) in 20 years: true to the historic average. Nothing capitalism tried in the past ever stopped or overcame its instability. Nothing either party now proposes offers the slightest chance of doing that in the future.

No matter who won, the historic undoing of the New Deal after 1945 will continue. The GOP and Democrats will both keep reversing the 1930s' reduction of U.S. wealth and income inequalities (forced from below by the Congress of Industrial Organizations [CIO], socialists, and communists). As usual, the GOP reverses these gains for Americans further and faster than Democrats, but both parties have condoned and managed the upward redistribution of wealth and income since 1945.

The GOP will likely celebrate explicitly the wealthy they serve so slavishly. The Democrats will likely moan occasionally about inequality while serving the wealthy quietly or implicitly. The GOP will "economize on government costs" by cutting social programs for average people and the poor. The Democrats will expand those programs while carefully avoiding any questioning, let alone challenging, of capitalism.

No matter who won, what U.S. politics lacks is real choice. Both major parties function as cheerleaders for capitalism under all circumstances, even when a killer pandemic coincides with a major capitalist crash. Real political choice would require a party that criticizes capitalism and offers a path toward social transition beyond capitalism. Countless polls prove that millions of U.S. citizens want to consider socialist criticisms of capitalism and socialist alternatives to it. The mass of voters for Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and other socialists provided yet more evidence. However, the system allowed and enabled a near-fascistic right wing to take over the GOP and the presidency. At the same time, it aided and abetted the Democrats in excluding a socialist from even running for that presidency. Trump and Biden are long-standing, well-known cheerleaders for capitalism. Sanders was, in contrast, a critic.

A new political party that offered systemic criticisms of capitalism and advocated for a transition to a worker-coop based economic system would bring real choice into U.S. politics. It would place before the electorate a basic question of vital importance: what mix of capitalist and worker-coop organized enterprises do you wish to work for, buy from, and live with in the United States? Voters could thereby genuinely participate in deciding the range of job descriptions from which each of us will become able to choose. Will we mostly have to accept positions as employees whose jobs are designed exclusively by and for employers? Or will all job descriptions include at least two basic tasks: a specific function within an enterprise's division of labor plus an equal share (alongside all other enterprise workers) of the powers to design and direct the enterprise as a whole?

Any community that wishes to call itself a "democracy" for more than rhetorical, self-promotional reasons should welcome a one-person, one-vote decision-making process governing how work is organized.

Most adults spend most of their lives at work. How that work is organized shapes how their lives are lived and what skills, aptitudes, appetites, and relationships they develop. Their work influences their other social roles as friends, lovers, spouses, and parents. In capitalism, the work experience of the vast majority (employees) is shaped and controlled by a small minority (employers) to secure the latter's profit, wealth accumulation, and reproduction as the socially dominant minority. In a real democracy, the economy would have to be democratically reorganized. Workplace decisions would be made on the basis of one person, one vote inside each enterprise. Parallel, similarly democratic decision-making would govern residential communities surrounding and interacting with workplaces. Workplace and residential democracies would have significant influences over one another's decisions. In short, genuine economic democracy would be the necessary partner to political democracy.

Many "capitalist" societies today include significant sites of enterprises organized as worker cooperatives. What they need but lack are allied political parties to secure the legislation, legal precedents, and administrative decisions to protect worker coops and facilitate their growth. Early capitalist enterprises and enclaves within feudalism likewise had to find or build political parties for the same reasons. Anti-feudal and pro-capitalist parties contested with feudal lords and their monarchs first to protect capitalist enterprises' existence and then to facilitate their growth. Eventually, pro-capitalist parties undertook revolutions to displace feudalism and monarchies in favor of parliaments in which those capitalist parties could and did dominate.

Today, pro-capitalist parties publicly deny but privately fear that their political dominance is threatened. Mass disaffection from capitalism is growing. One reason is the relocation of capitalism's growth from its old centers (Western Europe, North America, and Japan) to new centers (China, India, and Brazil). Globalization -- the polite but confused term for that relocation -- generates economic declines in the old centers that destabilize communities unable to admit let alone prepare for them. There, vanishing job opportunities, incomes, and social services provoke increasing questions and challenges confronting capitalism. These are now leading to broad and growing disaffection from the capitalist system. Polls and other signs of that disaffection abound. In the United States, on the one hand, the Republican Party lurched to the right. Trump-type quasi-fascism wants to impose a nationalist turn to "save" U.S. capitalism. On the other hand, the old, pro-capitalist establishment running the Democratic Party blocked Bernie Sanders and other socialists from any real power or voice. Saving capitalism was and also remains that establishment's goal.

Capitalism eventually defeated and displaced feudalism by combining micro-level construction and expansion of capitalist enterprises with macro-focused political parties finding ways to protect those enterprises and facilitate their growth. Capitalists' profits funded their parties' activities.

This article was produced by Economy for All , a project of the Independent Media Institute.

Richard Wolff is the author of Capitalism Hits the Fan and Capitalism's Crisis Deepens . He is founder of Democracy at Work .

[Nov 06, 2020] What we see is salami slicing sanctions (SSS) where the west adds small slices here and there that do add up, the latest being on suppling microelectronics to the Russian aviation industry.

Nov 06, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

ET AL November 6, 2020 at 12:04 pm

And this is also another opportunity of all the other stuff the US could have demanded their allies should do as well as the USA that they haven't done because it would have caused extreme autof/kery, sic banning the sale of airliners, engines, electronics etc. Russia could simply have pulled its titanium supply. Guess who's share prices would tank first and all the consequences?

As we have pointed out here before, while the US is exhorting u-Rope to 'take on for the team,' mega-corps (though weakening) like GE has arrange full localization of its turbine (power/mineral extraction) business with a local Russian partner. Yes. GE, Microsoft and others told the White House to f/k off. Not in public.

What we see is salami slicing sanctions (SSS) where the west adds small slices here and there that do add up, the latest being on suppling microelectronics to the Russian aviation industry. This is to hobble Russia's investment in its current rebuilding of its civil airliner industry or what's left of it. These sanction are a dick move precisely because they are easy and get support from both american political parties.

We have also covered on this blog many times before, cutting Russia off from the Joy of Sex West, they've cut their own markets off (retail/food produce etc.) which Russia has in turn finally massively self-invested for domestic products and also up market equivalents. That's cost u-Rope billions not only in lost sales, but in future sales share that will not return to where it once was.

So, cutting off western microelectronics for aircraft looks even more weak p*ss considering Russia's state strategic program of Russianizing its aircraft programs despite the obvious up front cost. Russia was doing this anyway because it was obvious which way the wind was blowing. Either they get on with it or they will be forced to do it.

The west is running out of any meaningful sanctions they can enact without causing futher blowback. How stupid is that? It's the product of thirty years of 'Do Something' policy however dumb or short sighted because the West has to be seen to do something. The concept of Leave it Alone has never crossed their minds. It really is an ad dick tion! 😉 Just don't expect to finding them in a self-help group admitting to all the nasty s/t they've done and as part of their step program, reaching out and apologizing for any of it. Neither them nor their media supporting hamsters.


[Nov 06, 2020] i find it amazing that americans may elect a president who is barley conscious

Nov 06, 2020 | www.rt.com

far_cough 2 hours ago i find it amazing that americans may elect a president who is barley conscious. stunning... Reply 5 Roman far_cough 29 minutes ago Maybe they are in the same condition...

[Nov 06, 2020] Can we use Biden words against him?

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Indeed, we can use beijing biden's words against him:

" Secondly, we're in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration -- President Obama's administration before this -- we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. " Joe Biden - October 24, 2020

[Nov 06, 2020] I nominate Borat as the guaido of USA.

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uncle tungsten , Nov 6 2020 1:58 utc | 200

James #103

I nominate Borat as the guaido of USA. He is recognisable, a fraud and a pseudo demonazi. Ideal

[Nov 06, 2020] Russian democracy is a farce

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librul , Nov 6 2020 0:07 utc | 185

Confidence In Our Electoral Process
- We have met the enemy and it is us

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The blather was everywhere, all the time, not just for months, but years:

Examples a plenty,

"Fiona Hill warns of Russia undermining confidence in U.S. democracy before elections"
October 27, 2020

'Chaos Is the Point': Russian disinfo undermining confidence in democracy
NED, National Endowment for Democracy January 10, 2020

Russia remains more potent threat of election interference despite administration focus on Iran
WaPo Oct. 22, 2020

"The FBI said late Wednesday that Russia and Iran have taken action to undermine US confidence in the upcoming elections."
CNet Oct. 22, 2020

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We have met the enemy but will we learn?
And will the Deep State pundits ever shut up?
You already know the answer.

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While searching out the above quotes I came across an amusing quote
from a CIA funded Russian dissident
now living in New York. What do you suppose the CIA would have
their paid mouthpiece say?

"Russian democracy is a farce."
Garry Kasparov 7/5/2020

(made me laugh, how about you?)

[Nov 06, 2020] Stop 'Stop the Steal'? Facebook repeatedly boots pro-Trump election integrity group for real-world organizing amid 'tension'

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Zanon , Nov 5 2020 22:19 utc | 168

More censorship

Stop 'Stop the Steal'? Facebook repeatedly boots pro-Trump election integrity group for real-world organizing amid 'tension'
https://www.rt.com/usa/505782-facebook-deletes-stopthesteal-group-gatherings/

Claiming fraud in Iran, Russia, Syria and so on is fine however for Facebook..

[Nov 06, 2020] The Russian disinformation campaign to divide Americans and sow chaos has infiltrated The Atlantic magazine.

Nov 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

jayc , Nov 5 2020 17:50 utc | 110

The Russian disinformation campaign to divide Americans and sow chaos has infiltrated The Atlantic magazine.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/large-portion-electorate-chose-sociopath/616994/

librul , Nov 5 2020 18:07 utc | 114

@Posted by: jayc | Nov 5 2020 17:50 utc | 110

Thanks for link (Atlantic, yesterday), jayc !

"The party of national security, fiscal austerity, and personal responsibility supports a president who is in the pocket of the Russians"

"Russia, Russia, Russia"
Can we give this Russia-mania disease a name?

[Nov 06, 2020] Trumpism will only grow and make the U.S. ungovernable

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lah , Nov 5 2020 21:11 utc | 153

"Trumpism will only grow and make the U.S. ungovernable".

What a relief, we were worried that the Democrats and their sponsorship of BLM and Antifa might somehow make the country ungovernable.

[Nov 06, 2020] The EU bureaucracy and individual member states are using any, even the most absurd, reasons to enhance something they call 'containment' of Russia.

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karlof1 , Nov 5 2020 18:43 utc | 127

In Lavrov's interview with Kommersant which was mostly about the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, he was asked about the US Election and then about the dire state of relations with the EU. Lavrov reiterates Russia's position:

"I repeat once again that Russia will respect the choice of the American people, and that we are ready to establish constructive cooperation with the winner of the race for the White House, regardless of his party affiliation. However, considering the current circumstances, we realistically assess the prospects of bilateral cooperation and do not expect too much. Anyhow, let's wait for the voting results. We don't have long to wait."

Yes, the interview was done prior to the vote counting anarchy. IMO, we can substitute the Outlaw US Empire for the EU in Lavrov's answer about the current crisis in relations:

"Russia's relations with the European Union are in crisis – and it is not our fault. The EU bureaucracy and individual member states are using any, even the most absurd, reasons to enhance something they call 'containment' of Russia.

"New sanctions, illegitimate from the international law perspective, are being imposed. Considering the number of sanctions imposed on our citizens under far-fetched pretexts, the EU is second only to the United States. The European media continue a broad anti-Russia campaign. In trade and economy, the Brussels bureaucracy is stepping up various protectionist policies, violating WTO rules and introducing its openly politicised rules of the game as they go.

"At the same time, we are being told that Russia can "earn" the right to have normal relations with the EU by changing its behaviour. This cynicism is absolutely off the scale."

Lavrov repeats it's up to the EU to alter its behavior:

"[O]ur European colleagues must clearly understand that any interaction is only possible on an honest and equal basis and respect for each other's interests. We will not allow any one-sided games here. There will be no unilateral goodwill gestures on our part. We still hope that a rational approach and common sense will prevail, both in Brussels and in member capitals. We are ready to wait for that as well."

IMO, that wait will last months.

[Nov 06, 2020] "What drives the empire's engine is essentially bipartisan, even in its own way, apolitical, existing as it does as a form of leaderless shadow government that functions as a community-of-interest rather than a bureaucracy. It is inclusive and reflective of the real centers of power in the country, namely the national security state and Wall Street."

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karlof1 , Nov 5 2020 19:57 utc | 140

Read Giraldi's essay , and he echoes what many of us have written about the Outlaw US Empire:

"What drives the empire's engine is essentially bipartisan, even in its own way, apolitical, existing as it does as a form of leaderless shadow government that functions as a community-of-interest rather than a bureaucracy. It is inclusive and reflective of the real centers of power in the country, namely the national security state and Wall Street."

Which is to say that Imperial Policy isn't really controlled from the Oval Office, and to that I'll add much of domestic policy too. As Hudson has said numerous times, we have a centrally planned economy controlled by the FIRE sector that operates on the very short term which completely ignores any sort of long term planning, which is what's really required for an Industrial Capitalist Economy . In this podcast , Hudson admits what we're governed by what ought to be termed Financialized Fascism, the Constitution is broken beyond repair and only a Great Revolt can rewrite and rebuild the USA. But as myself and others note, to do that, citizen solidarity is a sine qua non, and this election proves that's far from happening. So, what might we expect between now and 2024? A continuance of Bad Governance at the federal level will be mirrored in many states and anarchy will escalate regardless Biden or Trump. Continued erosion of living standards. A heightened threat of war with either China, Russia or both, and or with Iran. The replacement of Biden with Harris, quite possibly by his own party via 25th Amendment. In other words, more stumbling down the paths begun by Reagan in 1980 and GHW Bush in 1990.

[Nov 06, 2020] It's Still Trump's GOP, Not Liz Cheney's

Nov 06, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

On the eve of the election, for example, Politico published a fawning profile of Congresswoman Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who is laying the groundwork to become speaker of the House in a future Republican majority. An ideological mirror of her father, she and her cohort long for a restoration of the early 2000s Bushite foreign policy of globe-trotting regime change and democratic nation building administered by a national security state in Washington D.C.

Their cause, however, is as infertile as their past efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is because despite his poor record, Donald Trump has created a permanent and growing disconnect between the War Party and the GOP.

There is no need to sugarcoat how Donald Trump has squandered four years of opportunity in foreign policy. His promises to bring the troops home have not materialized and remain "promises" to be kept at a permanently delayed date. He has intensified U.S. interference in Yemen, Syria, Somalia, and Venezuela. He's overseen the continued deterioration of relations with Russia, while leaving North Korea at the diplomatic altar. And he's brought the United States and Iran into a first exchange of direct, open conflict.

A big-picture assessment, however, requires not looking at how Trump failed to bring what restrainers wanted, but how he succeeded in destroying what they needed gone.

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Trump's election caused the departure of the most loathsome of the war peddlers -- including Bill Kristol, David Frum, Jamie Kirchick, Steve Schmidt, and Max Boot -- from Republican ranks. United under the banner of "Never Trump," for four years they used every inch of column space, every CNN interview, and a small fortune to cleave off a portion of the Republican base that they believed would be happy to return to the world of 2006.

The result? Exit polls show Trump winning 93 percent of the Republican vote, a higher percentage than he won in 2016. As an election post-mortem summarized, Never Trump hawks "basically do not exist anywhere outside of the Washington Beltway or cable news green rooms -- and after tonight's results, we shouldn't have to see them on TV or even see their tweets ever again."

That the average American has the same respect for the War Party's minions as they have for a tobacco executive should come as no surprise. Polling continually shows a supermajority of Americans ready and eager to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan. That includes 77 percent of Republicans, 40 percent of whom want to decrease military engagement with the rest of the world as well. These voters are a vanguard that will stop any future Bushite ascendance, whether from Nikki Haley or the spawn of Dick Cheney.

Slowly, Republican members of Congress are beginning to reflect the wishes of their voters. One year ago this month, I wrote about the emerging cadre of antiwar conservatives in the House of Representatives. While most broke under pressure to support Trump's escalation with Iran, not all did. It's a more active and vocal Republican contingent than has existed for decades and it's growing fast. Following Tuesday's results, Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming will join Rand Paul and Mike Lee in the U.S. Senate, while Nancy Mace of South Carolina will lock arms with Representatives Thomas Massie and Matt Gaetz. Both women are vetted and proven war skeptics who are determined to challenge Liz Cheney at every turn.

Beyond government, the creative destruction brought by the Trump presidency in conservative circles has given a new lease on life to restrainers long excluded from the Beltway's incestuous institutions. That includes the continued ascension of publications like The American Conservative , which has become a wheelhouse for the most important foreign policy conversations happening on the right; Tucker Carlson, whose program has become the highest rated in cable news history, no doubt aided by his antiwar opening monologues; the Quincy Institute, which is dragging other think tanks kicking and screaming into dialogues about shifting U.S. positioning overseas; and activist organizations like BringOurTroopsHome.US , a collection of right-of-center veterans who are lobbying to end the country's unconstitutional wars.

The American empire was formed over the course of a century, and currently encompasses over 850 overseas military bases. Hundreds of billions of dollars are exchanged every year through facets of the military-industrial complex, while thousands of very powerful people make their cushy salaries off the current imperialistic system (and will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way).

One election was never going to change that. Donald Trump was never going to be a miracle worker. But he's kicked in the door and let us in, even if we wish he'd tidied up better before he left.

We have principled leaders in government. We have the infrastructure. And most importantly, we have the voters. Liz Cheney and her misbegotten hangers-on may not realize it yet, but their heyday has long past. It's our party now and we're going to bring America home.

Hunter DeRensis is the communications director of BringOurTroopsHome.US and a regular contributor to The American Conservative . Follow him on Twitter @HunterDeRensis.

[Nov 06, 2020] Why Donald Trump's supporters love him so much by Tucker Carlson

Nov 06, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

A vote for Trump is a vote against America's ruling class

On Saturday night, President Trump held a campaign rally in Butler, Pa. Butler is a town 35 miles north of Pittsburgh, and it's like a lot of places you'll find in this country once you head inland from the coasts.

Butler is a former industrial town -- they made Pullman rail cars there for many years -- but it's been losing population for decades. There are still a lot of nice people in Butler and for $60,000 or so, you can buy a decent house there. It's a place you might be happy in.

But our professional class is not impressed by Butler. They don't consider Butler, Pa. or places like it to be the future. To them, places like Butler are embarrassing relics of a past best forgotten. The men of Butler may have built this country, and they did, but they mean nothing to our leaders now. You can be certain of that because when large numbers of people in Butler started killing themselves with narcotics, no one in Washington or New York or Los Angeles said a word about it.

Trump supporters hold up four fingers as they chant 'Four More Years' at President Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pa. Saturday. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

There have now been so many opioid deaths in Butler that a few years ago, residents built an overdose memorial in the middle of town. MSNBC didn't cover that.

So given all of that, it was interesting how the people around Butler feel about Donald Trump. Between 10,000 and 15,000 people came out to see him Saturday night, depending on whose estimate you believe. Pictures of the rally site showed a sea of people obscuring the horizon, the kind of image you would see of a visit from the pope.

When was the last time a political speech drew that many people? Well, the media didn't ask. Instead, they attacked the rally as a "superspreader" event. OK, we'll leave the epidemiology to CNN.

But the questions still hung in the air. Why did all those people come? They must have known that Donald Trump is the most evil man who hass ever lived. They've heard that every day for five years. They know that people who support Donald Trump are also evil, they're bigots, they're morons, they're racist cult members. They know that Americans have been fired from their jobs for supporting Donald Trump, not to mention kicked off social media, belittled by their kids' teachers and shunned by decent society. Only losers and freaks support Donald Trump.

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TRUMP CLAIMS BIDEN ENERGY AGENDA WOULD 'SEND EVERY STATE INTO CRUSHING POVERTY"

People in Butler knew all of that. But on Saturday, they went to the Donald Trump rally, anyway. Why exactly did they do that? We should be pondering that question deeply as we watch Tuesday night's returns and as we live through the aftermath of them.

Millions of Americans sincerely love Donald Trump. They love him in spite of everything they've heard. They love him, often, in spite of himself. They're not deluded. They know exactly who Trump is. They love him anyway.

Trump addresses the crowd at his rally in Butler, Pa. (AP Photo/Keith Srakocic)

They love Donald Trump because no one else loves them. The country they built, the country their ancestors fought for over hundreds of years, has left them to die in unfashionable little towns, mocked and despised by the sneering halfwits with finance degrees -- but no actual skills -- who seem to run everything all of a sudden.

Whatever Donald Trump's faults, he is better than the rest of the people in charge. At least he doesn't hate them for their weakness. Donald Trump, in other words, is and has always been a living indictment of the people who run this country. That was true four years ago when he came out of nowhere to win the presidency. And it's every bit as true right now, maybe even more true than it's ever been. It will remain true regardless of whether Donald Trump wins reelection.

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Trump rose because they failed. It's as simple as that. If the people in charge had done a halfway decent job with the country they inherited, if they cared about anything other than themselves, even for just a moment, Donald Trump would still be hosting "Celebrity Apprentice." But they didn't. Instead, they were incompetent and narcissistic and cruel and relentlessly dishonest. They wrecked what they didn't build, and they lied about it. They hurt anyone who told the truth about what they were doing. That's all true. We all watched.

America is still a great country, the best in the world, but our ruling class is disgusting. A vote for Trump is a vote against them. That's what's going on in those pictures from Butler. That's what's going on in this country.

[Nov 06, 2020] The elites may control who gets nominated but no matter how flawed or repugnant their candidate is or how obvious that the candidate was chosen for them the flocks that follow the candidates act as if they did the choosing.

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jinn , Nov 5 2020 13:48 utc | 27

The elites may control who gets nominated but no matter how flawed or repugnant their candidate is or how obvious that the candidate was chosen for them the flocks that follow the candidates act as if they did the choosing.

Trump was given 10 times the free advertising than all the other primary candidates combined and yet his followers think they picked him.

And Biden will go down in history as the candidate who got more popular votes than any other candidate ever has and yet he is about as popular as a hemorrhoid.

[Nov 06, 2020] Miranda Devine- Biden may steal 2020 election for the elitists, but Democrats will live to regret it by Miranda Devine

Notable quotes:
"... Trump's campaign claimed Wednesday he still had a path to victory if he keeps Pennsylvania and somehow Arizona comes back to him. But even if Trump does lose, it may be a blessing in disguise for Republicans. ..."
"... The result has crushed Democratic expectations of a clean sweep. It wasn't a landslide win against an unpopular president, as we had been told so confidently for months. ..."
"... If Biden wins, it will be by the narrowest margin. And all the hundreds of millions spent on retaking the Senate came to nothing, with the Republicans looking to hold onto their lead. The top targets, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. Lindsey Graham, survived easily. ..."
"... The failure means that in 2022, the House is more likely to revert to Republican control, setting up a lame-duck presidency. ..."
"... Unfortunately, nothing can be done to stop a President Biden-Harris repeat of the geopolitical errors of the Obama presidency, such as appeasing China and Iran's mullahs and signing onto the Paris climate accord. But a President Biden in cognitive decline will sooner or later be replaced by his unpopular, untested vice president, Kamala Harris. Saddled with a recession and policies that will only exacerbate economic decline, the next four years will hobble Democrats. ..."
"... Whoever wins this election, the result is a humiliation for the Trump-deranged media and the tame pollsters who provide them with the justification for their dishonest political narrative. ..."
"... Whoever wins, this election has exposed the frauds and liars who pose as our elites, and half of America won't forget it. ..."
"... In a press conference in Philadelphia Wednesday, Giuliani laid out one clear anomaly in which, contrary to Pennsylvania law, Republican election observers were denied the right to oversee the counting of 120,000 ballots by being forced to stand 20 to 30 feet away from where they were being counted. ..."
"... In one case, a woman claiming to be an election volunteer in Michigan's Clark County claimed on video she had discovered a box of 500 ballots outside the counting facility from people who were not on the voter rolls. ..."
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The president has every right to ensure electoral laws are enforced to prevent fraud. In fact, he owes it to the 68 million deplorables who voted for him. Let's be real. Goliath was never going to let David breeze through the rematch .

The provinces, for whom President Trump is an instrument, not an end in himself, were never going to have an easy time winning the 2020 election against the amassed might of the Democratic Party, the "Fake News" media and allied pollsters, Big Tech, woke billionaires and the celebrity class, who united to stamp out the barbarian orange emperor.

The "chumps" and "ugly folk," as Joe Biden calls them, came out in their glorious millions from the American heartland on Election Day and now we will see if people power prevails, if the nationalist populist movement enabled by Donald Trump, but not defined by him, lives to fight another day against the corrupt globalists represented by the sad husk of Biden.

It boils down to Trump's belief that the Democrats perpetrated widespread voter fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and elsewhere to steal the election.

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While even those in his own party are urging him to lose gracefully, the president has every right to ensure electoral laws are enforced to prevent fraud. In fact, he owes it to the 68 million deplorables who voted for him. To that end, Trump has turned to an old ally, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, to lead a heroic legal challenge .

In Wisconsin, 300 ballots went missing when the Willow Township municipal clerk went home sick and no one could find her, the Washington Post reported. The ballots eventually turned up yesterday, with 157 votes for Trump and 114 for Biden.

In Arizona -- which was called early for Biden on election night, but the Trump campaign still says they can win -- a "data error" claimed that 95 percent of votes had been counted yesterday when only 86 percent had been, and the remainder reportedly were from Trump-heavy counties.

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So you can see that, in such a close election, Trump's concerns are not frivolous. Fraud is corrosive, but so is claiming fraud where there is none. We will see where the lawsuits land. In any case, Biden as much as declared victory yesterday, saying that by the time the count is finished, "I believe I will be the winner . . . we are winning in enough states to reach the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency."

Trump's campaign claimed Wednesday he still had a path to victory if he keeps Pennsylvania and somehow Arizona comes back to him. But even if Trump does lose, it may be a blessing in disguise for Republicans.

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The result has crushed Democratic expectations of a clean sweep. It wasn't a landslide win against an unpopular president, as we had been told so confidently for months.

If Biden wins, it will be by the narrowest margin. And all the hundreds of millions spent on retaking the Senate came to nothing, with the Republicans looking to hold onto their lead. The top targets, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. Lindsey Graham, survived easily.

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The fatal miscalculations of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in cynically refusing to negotiate on the latest stimulus bill have cost the Democrats dearly in the House, where they have gone backward by at least six seats. They did not manage to get rid of a single Republican. So much for the blue wave.

The failure means that in 2022, the House is more likely to revert to Republican control, setting up a lame-duck presidency.

The Democrats won't be able to pack the Supreme Court, abolish the Electoral College or make DC and Puerto Rico states. They will struggle to impose the Green New Deal.

Unfortunately, nothing can be done to stop a President Biden-Harris repeat of the geopolitical errors of the Obama presidency, such as appeasing China and Iran's mullahs and signing onto the Paris climate accord. But a President Biden in cognitive decline will sooner or later be replaced by his unpopular, untested vice president, Kamala Harris. Saddled with a recession and policies that will only exacerbate economic decline, the next four years will hobble Democrats.

Their flaws and hypocrisy will be on full display, with a good chance of the 2024 presidential race being won by one of the new generation of Republican heirs to Trumpism.

Whoever wins this election, the result is a humiliation for the Trump-deranged media and the tame pollsters who provide them with the justification for their dishonest political narrative.

Let history record that on the Sunday before the election, the New York Times declared that "all 15" of their columnists suffer from mandatory Trump Derangement Syndrome.

"All 15 of our columnists explain what the past four years have cost America" was the introduction to a carnival of wokesplaining.

That's what you get when you fire opinion editors who publish conservatives. Whoever wins, this election has exposed the frauds and liars who pose as our elites, and half of America won't forget it.

In a press conference in Philadelphia Wednesday, Giuliani laid out one clear anomaly in which, contrary to Pennsylvania law, Republican election observers were denied the right to oversee the counting of 120,000 ballots by being forced to stand 20 to 30 feet away from where they were being counted.

"They were never able to see the ballot itself, never able to see if it was properly postmarked, properly addressed, properly signed on the outside . . . this went on for 20 hours. While all of you thought there was some kind of legitimate count going on here in Philadelphia, it was totally illegitimate."

Giuliani's team has also launched a lawsuit in Wisconsin , where he says that, after election observers had gone home, "at 3 or 4 in the morning about 120,000 ballots appeared . . . and they all got counted."

The Trump campaign also filed a lawsuit in Michigan Wednesday, with campaign manager Bill Stepien claiming Republican observers were denied "meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots and the counting process, as guaranteed by Michigan law."

There are other allegations of fraud or irregularities, late-counted votes and suspected vote harvesting being reported around the country.

In one case, a woman claiming to be an election volunteer in Michigan's Clark County claimed on video she had discovered a box of 500 ballots outside the counting facility from people who were not on the voter rolls.

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[Nov 06, 2020] Here's Your Historical Analogy Menu- Rome, The USSR, Or Revolutionary France

Notable quotes:
"... One camp within the elites recognizes the danger and seeks reforms , but the reforms are too little, too late, and in any event, the elites who cling most ardently to the past stability fight the reform movement to a standstill. ..."
"... So take your pick, America: what's the closest analogy? A sclerotic Politburo of elders living in the past, an elite fiddling while the nation disintegrates, or an elite so out of touch with reality that it claims inflation is zero while the populace can no longer afford bread? ..."
Nov 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Rome, the USSR and Revolutionary France are all compelling analogies due to the hubristic cluelessness of their fractured elites as the pretensions of stability collapsed around them. Even though Nero didn't actually fiddle while Rome burned and Marie Antoinette didn't gush "Let them eat brioche" when notified that the peasants had no bread (or more accurately, could no longer afford it), these myths are handy encapsulations of the disconnect from reality that infested the elites in the last years before the deluge of non-linear chaos overwhelmed the regimes.

While historians gather evidence of tipping points such as pandemics, ecological damage, invasions, droughts, inflation, etc., the core dynamic is ultimately the loss of social cohesion within the ruling elites and in the social order at large.

As a generality, the permanence of the status quo is taken for granted by elites, who then feel free to squabble amongst themselves over the spoils of wealth and power. Distracted by their own infighting, the elites are blind to the erosion of the foundations of their power.

As coherence in the elites unravels, the ties uniting the elites with the masses unravel as well.

One camp within the elites recognizes the danger and seeks reforms , but the reforms are too little, too late, and in any event, the elites who cling most ardently to the past stability fight the reform movement to a standstill.

As social cohesion unravels, systems that once seemed immutable (i.e. linear ) suddenly display non-linear dynamics in which modest changes that would have made little difference in the past now unleash regime-shattering disorder.

So take your pick, America: what's the closest analogy? A sclerotic Politburo of elders living in the past, an elite fiddling while the nation disintegrates, or an elite so out of touch with reality that it claims inflation is zero while the populace can no longer afford bread?

They all lead to the same destination.


richsob , 1 hour ago

I know a lot of history and I think we will go the route of Rome. We will have a slow slide into total failure from a debased currency, an over extended military, tax revolts, unmanageable immigration and an internal war among the elites.

HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 , 1 hour ago

My name is an indirect reference to France and the French Revolution.

When Pelosi was photo'd in front of two massive Sub Zero fridges with gourmet ice cream, that was the equivalent of "let them eat brioche." She is fvucking clueless. A tool that is barely coherent, much like Joe.

People see through it. The greed of the politicians, and their apparatchiks, the bureaucrats, is obvious to anyone willing to look. FFS apparatchiks can retire with six fixure salaries after being a government employee! People are sick to death of their arrogance, their greed, their out-and-out abuse of the taxpayer!

The other analogy, which I think is valid, is to ancient Rome. I was a philosophy major / Latin minor so took quite few courses involving the classes, reading the classics, or translating them. I also spent a semester in Rome, tramping through the Forum and walking underground and overground. In 1997 Rome was a beautiful city, mostly safe.

Anyhow, ancient Rome ended up debasing their currency, literally. Which the US (and other central banks) are doing with excessive money printing.

Excessive taxation drove away the tax base of ancient Rome. The first jingle keys event was there. Why? Taxes were too high. People will work hard if there is a profit incentive and they are able to earn a good return from their labor. Once that incentive was gone, people abandoned their farms and property and left. Where did they go? Away. Away from the tax collectors, which were richly rewarded for any taxes they were able to collect. I suppose at the end, the collection methods became quite brutal. At that point, when it is your money or your life, you throw the tax collector your money and flee with your life. You walk away from land that you love and start over.

Never an easy choice to abandon one's land and home. But that is exactly what happened.

Central bankers and governments, along with the common citizen, would do well to heed historical precedents.

MAOUS , 31 minutes ago

I see it more like The Godfather Part I & II. We were betrayed by the stupidest simpletons of our own family (citizenry) that sold us out for trinkets, false promises of grandeur and propaganda from Rival Mafia Families who wanted to rub our family out, kill our leader and take over. "I didn't know until today, it was Barzini all along." Yeah, but Fredo was the turn coat that made it all possible. Meet the simpletons of our Family known as your fellow American voter. "A Republic, if you can keep it." We lost it, kiss it goodbye. Say hello to the new Black Hand on the block.

Omega Point , 1 hour ago

One of the best articles on ZH in a while. The elites are so full of hubris, they behave as if the state of affairs since the post-WWII era has always been the state of affairs throughout history and are immutable. They believe that they are cause of America's dominance, not the individuals who built this country on whose goodwill they are now quickly draining.

I think we're like Rome. Currency debasement, no border security, massively corrupt politicians, most of population on welfare, and games and circuses to distract from the rot.

The elites will soon be surprised how quickly things will decline, just as shocked as the Romans when the Visigoths came through the city walls and looted the Imperial City in 410 AD.

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sbin , 1 hour ago

The USSR was very similar with decrepit old party hacks ruining everything.

Unfortunately American exceptional lunatics will try to destroy the world before excepting reality.

Never been a group so corrupt and delusional with so much destructive weaponry.

Dr Strangelove is more appropriate.

RKKA , 1 hour ago

In the summer of 1941, the 4th Panzer Division of Heinz Guderian, one of the most talented German tank generals, broke through to the Belarusian town of Krichev. Parts of the 13th Soviet Army were retreating. Only one gunner, Nikolai Sirotinin, did not retreat - very young, short, thin.

On that day, it was necessary to cover the withdrawal of troops. “There will be two people with a cannon here,” said the battery commander. Nikolai volunteered. The second was the commander himself.

On the morning of July 17, a column of German tanks appeared on the highway.

Nikolai took up a position on the hill right on the field. The cannon was sinking in the high rye, but he could clearly see the highway and the bridge over the river. When the lead tank reached the bridge, Nikolai knocked it out with the first shot. The second shell set fire to the armored personnel carrier that closed the column.

We must stop here. Because it is still not entirely clear why Nikolai was left alone at the cannon. But there are versions. He apparently had just the task - to create a "traffic jam" on the bridge, knocking out the head car of the Nazis. The lieutenant at the bridge and adjusted the fire, and then, disappeared. It is reliably known that the lieutenant was wounded and then he left towards the withdrawing positions. There is an assumption that Nikolai had to move away, having completed the task. But ... he had 60 rounds. And he stayed!

Two tanks tried to move the lead tank off the bridge, but they were also hit. The armored vehicle tried to cross the river not across the bridge. But she got stuck in a swampy shore, where another shell found her. Nikolai shot and shot, knocking out tank after tank ...

Guderian's tanks rested on Nikolai Sirotinin, like the Chinese wall, like the Brest fortress. Already 11 tanks and 6 armored personnel carriers were on fire! For almost two hours of this strange battle, the Germans could not understand where the gun was firing from. And when we reached the position of Nikolai, he had only three shells left. The Germans offered him to surrender. Nikolai responded by firing at them with a carbine.

This last battle was short-lived ...

11 tanks and 7 armored vehicles, 57 soldiers and officers were lost by the Nazis after the battle, where they were blocked by the Russian soldier Nikolai Sirotinin.

The inscription on the monument: "Here at dawn on July 17, 1941 entered into combat with a column of fascist tanks and in a two-hour battle repulsed all enemy attacks, senior artillery sergeant Nikolai Vladimirovich Sirotinin, who gave his life for the freedom and independence of our Motherland."

"After all, he is a Russian soldier, is such admiration necessary?" These words were written down in his diary by Chief Lieutenant of the 4th Panzer Division Henfeld: “July 17, 1941. Sokolnichi, near Krichev. An unknown Russian soldier was buried in the evening. He alone stood at the cannon, shot a convoy of our tanks and infantry for a long time, and died. Everyone was amazed at his courage ... Oberst (Colonel) before the grave said that if all the soldiers of the Fuehrer fought like this Russian soldier, they would have conquered the whole world! Three times they fired volleys from rifles. After all, he is a Russian soldier, is such admiration necessary? "

Ordinary people were ready to defend and die for the USSR. And who is Gorbachev, who destroyed the USSR. A traitor who betrayed everything and everyone. A stupid dilettante who imagines himself a world-class politician. The main drawback of the USSR was that the power was too concentrated in the hands of one person, who was trusted without question. But when people realized where he was leading the country, it was too late.

Max21c , 2 hours ago

It's a mix between Nazi Germany and its criminality and thievery and persecution machinery, and Bolshevist Russia and its criminality and thievery and persecution machinery and many third world banana republics and their criminality and thievery and political persecution machinery.

Face it Washingtonians are evil.

ZeroTruth , 1 hour ago

Americuck in and of its entirety is just a criminal organization. I know a restaraunteur that started his business in the Bay Area selling drugs using a fleet of vehicles that had hidden compartments everywhere. Each vehicle was capable of holding up to half a key of yay and powdered molly already grammed up. Drivers were issued burner phones and given orders via dispatcher.

Last I checked, he had 7 restaurants that did amazing business and those vehicles were still on the road providing the other service. That's just one of the many I know of and it's small time compared to what the US government is doing.

ZeroTruth , 1 hour ago

Americuck in and of its entirety is just a criminal organization. I know a restaraunteur that started his business in the Bay Area selling drugs using a fleet of vehicles that had hidden compartments everywhere. Each vehicle was capable of holding up to half a key of yay and powdered molly already grammed up. Drivers were issued burner phones and given orders via dispatcher.

Last I checked, he had 7 restaurants that did amazing business and those vehicles were still on the road providing the other service. That's just one of the many I know of and it's small time compared to what the US government is doing.

DeeDeeTwo , 2 hours ago

The elites, Big Tech, Media and Deep State threw the kitchen sink at this election and did not move the needle. Regardless of who is next President, nothing changes. This is a tribute to the stability of the American system. In fact, the pendulum is swinging against the subversives who are becoming increasingly reckless and discredited.

TBT or not TBT , 2 hours ago

What did Huxley call the future country depicted in Brave New World?

[Nov 06, 2020] I guess since covid put Nevada's hookers on ice, they didn't caucus for Biden like they did for Hillary.

Nov 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

john , Nov 5 2020 14:58 utc | 48

Gareth @ 11

Nevada is the state to watch

I guess since covid put Nevada's hookers on ice, they didn't caucus for Biden like they did for Hillary.

But I see that Trump did send some coinage to Hookers for Jesus .

so I guess it's hookers vs hookers...

exciting stuff.

[Nov 06, 2020] Did the Iraq War Cause the Great Recession?'

Highly recommended!
Iran war might be too much for the US economy
Apr 07, 2013 | marknesop.wordpress.com

Moscow Exile ,

April 7, 2013 at 12:46 am
Western hypocrisy revealed 10 years after the event in today's Independent: "Tony Blair and Iraq: The damning evidence" . And they go on and on about those wicked, evil Russians and their tyrannical leader causing death and destruction Syria by their "support" of the Assad government whilst the West arms the "freedom fighters" there.

[Nov 06, 2020] Maybe Trump and Biden could publicly draw straws to get over with it

Notable quotes:
"... We need a combination of wrestling match, boxing, pistol duel, swordfight, jousting with lances, arm-wrestling, chess ..."
Nov 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

jiri , Nov 5 2020 13:05 utc | 15

"Maybe Trump and Biden could publicly draw straws to get over with it."

No way.

We need a combination of wrestling match, boxing, pistol duel, swordfight, jousting with lances, arm-wrestling, chess, swim across the English Channel, motor rally, horse race, tiddlywinks plus more that I haven't thought of yet.

[Nov 05, 2020] How notorious Russian agent Greta try to influences election and seeds discord in the USA

She recently said that Trump should give up and admit defeat. That's Clearly Russian elections interference, if you ask me."
Oct 10, 2020 | twitter.com
Greta Thunberg @GretaThunberg 10h
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I never engage in party politics. But the upcoming US elections is above and beyond all that. From a climate perspective it's very far from enough and many of you of course supported other candidates. But, I mean you know damn! Just get organized and get everyone to vote #Biden

[Nov 05, 2020] The Last White Man by Eric Striker

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... trigger the libs ..."
"... The Last White Man ..."
Nov 05, 2020 | www.unz.com

Many nationalists plan to vote for Trump, not due to a positive assessment of his first term, but for the same reason people line up for terrible movie sequels: warm and fuzzy nostalgia, sometimes inexplicable. Once upon a time the prospect of electing this man made the people we all hate but who rule us anyway visibly afraid.

Spite for the "coastal elites" in tortoiseshell glasses will likely save the day.

But don't expect the same flood of libtard tears this time around outside of maybe low level MSNBC watchers. The real elite, the Jews, now realize that Trump's gun had an orange tip spray painted black the whole time.

Trump began betraying his voters almost as soon as he was sworn into office. The only figures in Trump's populist campaign who survived the 2016 election were Steve Bannon, who was banished after Charlottesville and is now facing federal charges at the hands of Trump's own Department of Justice, and Jeff Sessions, whose political career was destroyed by Trump's calculated malice.

A victory in 2016 by any of the generic GOP hacks who lost during the primary would've been indistinguishable from the last four years of Trump, policy-wise.

Draining the swamp and transforming the Republicans into a worker's party? No. Instead, his cabinet positions were staffed by the swamp scum at the Heritage Foundation.

Deportation force and a wall? He trots out Stephen Miller before any big vote , but nothing was accomplished on this front. Barack Obama removed 50% more illegal aliens in his first term than Trump has. In his first two years of holding the Presidency and Congress, Trump made no effort to present legislation to combat illegal immigration or even increase border security. There are more Asian and Central American illegal aliens in the United States right now than before he took office.

Punishing "LIBERAL DONORS"? Heritage's appointments have helped enable a corporate crime wave not seen in recent memory, with laughable cases of naked insider trading like the "paused" loan to Kodak personally protected by Trump's inner circle. Every multi-national and NGO has been scamming the PPP system, Trump's promise to crack down on this will never materialized . White collar crime prosecutions have fallen to a 33-year low during this administration.

Is it any wonder these "donors" have so much money laying around they can use it to fund Black Lives Matter?

This round of American populism has been defeated by the Swamp conservatives, many who were originally Trump foes and but now gleefully wear MAGA hats and have shoved aside relatively independent alt-light con artists and the organic ethno-nationalist movement. The conservatives we thought we canceled, like the Jews Ben Shapiro, Mark Levine, and Dennis Prager have come back from the dead thanks to Big Tech's massive crackdown on independent media.

The problem for Trump is that conservatism is widely hated, especially by his voters. Trump's tax cut for billionaires is one of his administration's only policy achievements, and it is the most unpopular thing he has ever done.

What will carry Trump over the finish line is the understandable desire to trigger the libs just one last time, in a way that won't get you fired from your job or antagonized by the FBI . The immense power the Judeo-left has amassed by uniting suburban liberals, big capitalists, permanent bureaucrats and antifa under Trump has contributed to white working people becoming atomized, thus demoralized, thus susceptible to Trump's campaign year presentation as The Last White Man .

Seeing the conservative movement peering out from under the mountains of shit we shoveled on them to dominate the Trump-era is testament to the flexibility and tenacity -- thanks to Jewish "philanthropy" -- of the phony right. The time-sink, money-sink non-issues of abortion, the supposed justification for confirming Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court, has re-emerged as a supposedly important issue. Last year the abortion rate fell to the lowest levels ever, largely due to low rates of sex between young people and the widespread adoption of contraceptives.

But the Koch brothers know what we're really getting in ACB. The notorious "Americans for Prosperity" spent millions to push her through because she will be the most pro-big business justice on the court (she sided with big business 85% of the time during her judgeship), which explains the complete lack of a fight from the Democrats. 15 of the last 19 SCOTUS judges have been appointed by the Republican Party, yet the court has become more pro-business and socially "liberal" anyway.

As Ted Cruz has recently stated, once the election is over and they're no longer under pressure from voters, Trump and the GOP will be returning to business as usual : imposing austerity during an unprecedented unemployment crisis, ratcheting up military tensions with enemies of Israel, and as the Heritage Foundation predicts in its conclusion of Trump v. Biden on immigration, a massive amnesty bill that will introduce a new "merit-based immigration system" -- the H1-B program on steroids.

While nobody thinks Trump's "platinum plan for black America" will ever come to be, the mere suggestion will be opening up a debate we should not be having. Explicit no-whites-need-apply social policies are another cultural artifact of the Trump era bound to become acceptable in his second term.

For establishment Democrats, their second defeat at the hands of Trump will be enormously discrediting, but they will profit in the short term from their comfortable position as the opposition party. By running a candidate like Joe Biden, one can only assume they want to lose.

But the Clinton-Biden-Obama-Pelosi nexus, who planned to fill "Sleepy Joe's" spayed cabinet with people like John Kasich, Jeff Flake , and various in-house neo-liberals, will be pressured by actual communists in their party to step aside. The Republican Party will never be able to meet this challenge, instead Trump and Charlie Kirk will be riding a helicopter to Botswana to cut the ribbon on a new bathhouse and dance to the Village People when the next incident occurs and the nation is once again on fire.

The New York Times has turned this election into a referendum on Woke + Wall Street. The majority, even many non-whites, will be rejecting America's new official ideology today.


Anon [206] Disclaimer , says: November 4, 2020 at 1:46 am GMT • 1.1 days ago

From the beginning, one side of me has always thought Trump to be too good to be true. My first doubts about him came when I learned his daughter was married to a powerful Jew and she's adopted his religion. Trump has turned out to be the most pro-Zionist president ever and has even moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem...

Mike Zwick , says: November 4, 2020 at 2:31 am GMT • 1.1 days ago

Woke is Wall Street.

Achilles Wannabe , says: November 4, 2020 at 7:33 am GMT • 20.8 hours ago

Best thing I have read on Trump. Here is my one reservation

"The real elite, the Jews, now realize that Trump's gun had an orange tip spray painted black the whole time."

Forget "now realize". At least Trump's Jews – the ones anti Jewish Power Trump supporters never report on – have ALWAYS realized that Trump is shabbos goy to the bone. I am talking about Jews like:
Lew Eisenberg, Sheldon and Miriam Adelson, Mel Sembler, Ron Weiser, Steve Wynn, Elliott Brody, Laurie Perlmutter, and Carl Icahn, not to mention Bernie Marcus. Then we have his many Jewish personal and professional associates, who include, among others, Avi Berkowitz, Michael Cohen, Gary Cohn, Reed Cordish, Boris Epshteyn, David Friedman, Jason Greenblatt, Larry Kudlow, Stephen Miller, Steven Mnuchin, Jay Sekulow, David Shulkin, and Allen Weisselberg. All those Trump-defenders out there in America should be dismayed at his vast linkage to the people of Israel(See Thomas Dalton, True Q)

These are the big Business Republican Jews and their apparatchiks as opposed to the new class professionals, academics, intellectuals, mediaist, journalists, and policy wonks who comprise the neo liberal – liberal and neocon Jews of the Democrat Party. Unlike the Democrat Jews who don't know Trump existentially – he's too vulgar and undereducated – and really do think, or perhaps at least thought, that Trump could be the coming of a new Hitler, the Business Jews have had long actual existential relations with Trump or know Jews who have. Trump has been up to his ears in Jews of the Big Business type his whole life and they know he is firmly in the Semophile bag. As Jews , Trump's Jews want Zionism and have always known he is good for it. But they also want every break they can get for Big Business because what could be better for Jews who prosper from neoliberalism right across their higher class status? As Striker argues , Trump will give Jews another round of business breaks like those he had already given in his first term. And there will go his populist image but it will have served its purpose

All this could have been easily predicted if someone in our ethnic realism community had taken a good look at Trump's Jews. Instead Trump was allowed to pose as "the last white man"

Actually E Michael Jones sort of tried it but he didn't get any support. Why is that?

GMC , says: November 4, 2020 at 7:54 am GMT • 20.4 hours ago

Well, I don't know who won yet and I doubt that anyone will ever know since everything is rigged, but Old Joe has most of the alphabet agencies in his pocket, the MSM in his corner and a whole lot of Obama, Clinton trotskyites lookin after him. That should mean that he should win by a landslide, unless he lets the popular vote for Trump – into the election process – which would be shrewd .. lol As far as America goes – SNAFU d again.

freedom-cat , says: November 4, 2020 at 8:13 am GMT • 20.1 hours ago

I've been sitting here watching the election maps all night.

The counting stopped around 8:30 – 9:00 Pacific time. It hasn't moved since.

If you go into the counties on the particular states that have stalled, you can do the math.

Clearly Trump was winning and if counts allowed, they should be able to call it.

Amazingly, they called Arizona when it was only something like 68% complete.

NV was going red but it shows it is swaying blue now it is the only state that has updated in last 3 hours besides Arizona.

It looks like they might be trying to pull something (the Democrats/Deep state).

I've never seen this happen. There is no reason for it to have happened.

WI, MI, PA, NC and GA are all pending red, along with the 1 electoral vote in ME.

Go to bed. In morning we'll get up and Biden will be declared winner with most of the above states declared blue (sometime during the night when most people are sleeping).

It's orchestrated.

https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2020/general-results

Bardon Kaldian , says: November 4, 2020 at 9:36 am GMT • 18.7 hours ago

Superficial article. The author did write a few good sentences, but seems to have missed that Trump is at most a potential catalyst for white awakening. If that does not happen, you can't blame him. You can only blame yourself for a combination of spinelessness, stupidity, cowardice & naivety.

If the central pillar of America, whites, are so immature or so divided, US cannot last. No empire which was not a nation-state too, did survive in history. It disintegrated & collapsed.

Bronze Age Persecutor , says: November 4, 2020 at 10:46 am GMT • 17.6 hours ago

Too bad Trump is jewish and fully cooperated with his shitty ethnic group and their endless treasonous schemes many times. The alt-right/Q/MAGA jewish psyop (the real Russiagate), HARPA, Barr covering up many crimes of the tribe (Epstein, Trump's crimes, big tech, fake BLM/ANTIFA protests, ), treasonous cooperation with Israel, the coronavirus flu scam, close ties to illegal mass surveillance contractors and Chabad Lubavich, shady deals with banks, handing money over to his fellows in "coronavirus aid packages", engaging in trade wars that seemed to be stupid, but had the objective of imploding the US economy to pave way for China (same for the flu scam and 2008 crisis)
Biden isn't that different either.

Mefobills , says: November 4, 2020 at 11:17 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago
@Anon out civilization and barbarism that Hudson quite matter-of-factly agreed with me that the book is, to the extent that it will be understood, " earth-shattering" in both intent and effect .

The movement that Striker is referring to, has have a moral component, otherwise the agents of Mammon win again. Our (((friends))) have been winning for centuries, because they have redefined reality using their ill-gotten gains. Clown world is funded.

But whether we get Trump or Biden, we need to organize our own political movement or we will be getting it anyway.

Sick of Orcs , says: November 4, 2020 at 11:26 am GMT • 16.9 hours ago

Barack Obama removed 50% more illegal aliens in his first term than Trump has.

And illegally gave us DACA, canceling out the numbers deported (who probably are here again.)

RoatanBill , says: November 4, 2020 at 11:34 am GMT • 16.8 hours ago
@Grundle

The point is that there's not a dimes worth of difference between the Democrats and Republicans and their candidates and therefore voting is a waste of time.

Rosie , says: November 4, 2020 at 11:52 am GMT • 16.5 hours ago
@freedom-cat

It looks like they might be trying to pull something (the Democrats/Deep state).

Yes, they're trying to cheat, no doubt. Of course, nobody will care enough to do anything about it. Had Trump actually done something for White people, the erstwhile alt-right might have organized Charlottesville-style rallies in support of Trump, but he didn't, so they won't. That's what he gets for being a cuck and throwing his most committed supporters under the bus.

Johnny Walker Read , says: November 4, 2020 at 1:30 pm GMT • 14.8 hours ago

Trump is like the abusive alcoholic husband and American conservatives(mostly Whites)are like the battered wife. Deep down we know the beatings will never stop, but we continue to give our love and support to him. We know we should leave him, perhaps find a new man to share our love with and help raise our kids. The problem is we are stuck in a neighborhood of crack heads and heroine addicts, and the new husband would turn out worse than the last...

pecosbill , says: November 4, 2020 at 1:38 pm GMT • 14.7 hours ago

The old saw that Obama deported more illegals than did Trump in the first term is a lie exposed many times over. At the border under Bush II, Mexicans caught coming across were simply sent back on their own recognizance (ORed) and not counted as a deportation. There were thousands and thousands treated this way by the Border Patrol and Immigration. To get the deportation numbers up, Obama ordered that ORs be counted as deportations, so therein is the lie.

TG , says: November 4, 2020 at 1:47 pm GMT • 14.6 hours ago

I must agree with this article. Trump has largely betrayed his base, and is no more likely to do better for the average working class American in his second term than he has in his first. It's painful, I don't want to admit this either, but as they say, optimism is cowardice.

I must however object to the notion that the Democrats are in any way "communist." Do communists throw tens of trillions of dollars at Wall Street while starving the real economy of investment? Do communists support "surprise medical billing?" Do communists allow all important financial decisions to be made by private corporations? Oh sure, the Democrats will come up with all sorts of confiscatory taxes and regulations on the middle class, no doubt, and they will subsidize illegal immigrants – which is to say, they will subsidize cheap labor for the elites. And yes they will be for transgender bathrooms. But communists? No way no how, the Democrats are Neoliberal scum just like the Republicans.

Make a new political movement? It would be nice, but I can't see any way that such a thing will not be suppressed or co-opted or the leadership bought out etc.etc. Look what happened to "Golden Dawn" in Greece

anon [110] Disclaimer , says: November 4, 2020 at 2:50 pm GMT • 13.5 hours ago

Sadly I think the last white man is going to lose. The election has been stolen from him with mass voting fraud, both in vote counting and mass voting by illegal voters. He has also shot himself in the foot over the last four years with several major blunders, which did not help, for e.g.:

1) Calling off the voting fraud investigation and disbanded the investigative team soon after his inauguration in 2016.

2) Too thin skin and incendiary in his tweets, not very Presidential and made unnecessary enemies.

3) Didn't do enough to reduce legal immigration incl. H1B and OPTs right from the get go, which lost him a lot of enthusiasm from college educated voters. He only finally began to do something about it last month, too little too late. Stephen Miller turned out to be a fake patriot after all, who kept out true patriots like Kris Kobach from running the DHS.

4) Kept/promoted his enemies like Paul Ryan, John Kelly, Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, HR McMaster, Gina Haspel, Christopher Wray et. al, which came back to haunt him very quickly.

5) Letting wormtongue (Jared Kushner) into the WH and giving him far too much power, including freeing all the drug dealers.

6) At times it seemed like the only thing he cares about is the stock market, he made lots of people way richer than they were in 2016, and these are all the people who are now voting against him, from Wall Street to Silicon Valley.

7) Too many Jews and Ziocons in his cabinet. Pandered too much to Israel, making his real slogan more like MIGA than MAGA.

Come to think of it, Trump is not the last white man. He is the last Ziocon Jew to become president.

Yukon Jack , says: November 4, 2020 at 2:52 pm GMT • 13.5 hours ago

Trump is going to win.

That is a positive statement based on wishful thinking as the electoral maps show Biden ahead and there is probable vote fraud

https://centralbankinginsanity.wordpress.com/2020/11/04/vote-fraud-evidence/

Trump did not win by a landslide as so many hoped. There is a reason for the red wave fail, and it is Trump himself and his policies.

Trump's biggest enemy is himself, he spent the entire administration making threats and filling his administration with swamp criminals, he is slavishly whored to Netanyahu and Israel, he even murdered Soleimani. He didn't remove the troops from a single occupied nation. Trump's failure as a good administrator is glaring obvious and of no surprise because he had no previous governmental experience. He just winged it based on being the Donald. What a joke. A nation ruled by one ego that thinks it is god.

He never went on the offensive with 911 truth, which would put the entire swamp under investigation and in a fight to stay out of prison. With 911 investigation Israel would be put on a leash, and the Neocons would ALL be indicted, along with the Jewish newspapers and lobbies. Because Trump REFUSED to investigate the biggest crime in history because of his god damned loyalty to Jews and Israel, it is Trump who spent his entire presidency in a defensive mode.

When asked if he condemns white supremacy Trump did not condemn the interviewer or defend white people. Pathetic. He's cucked to the Jewish media narrative. And why doesn't he take legal or military action against the Jewish media? Because he is bed with Kushners and the Adelsons.

As a result of his own actions Trump who could of won by a landslide is now in a stalemate with creeper senile Biden, one of the most pathetic candidates ever. Trump failures all center around his loyalties to Jews and Israel.

So this election is looking more and more like a stalemate and I would like to bring to everyone's attention that there is a "prophecy" of how this ends:

https://centralbankinginsanity.wordpress.com/2020/11/04/conversations-with-nostradamus-even-electoral-split-prophecy/

"The presidents of the U.S., a supposedly free country, have been abusing their power to an increasingly greater extent. During a time of social unrest even more so than the period of Viet Nam and Watergate, the electoral college will be evenly split over the election of the new president. The process will stalemate, with many people clamoring for whichever candidate they voted for, causing enormous tension in the country. Internationally it will be a sensitive situation.

Because of the split, and the extremely volatile and explosive social unrest, putting either candidate in office instead of the other could start a civil war or a revolution. After a long time of impassioned speeches invoking patriotism and the founding fathers, a compromise solution of holding another election will be taken, and a candidate will be installed without disaster."

PS I have no dog in the fight and I don't vote, I will never vote for a lesser of two evils, if the two pedo candidates is the best the nation can do when we have 337 million people to pick from then maybe the nation needs to fall.

anastasia , says: November 4, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT • 13.4 hours ago

Trump ran against a man who would qualify as retarded.
I had to laugh when he said, "Look at what I am running against. It could only happen to me."

.and the rest of us. Clearly, we are on the losing side.

AndrewR , says: November 4, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 13.3 hours ago
@Despair

Lol "vs"?

Antifa and Wall Street are the same now. It's them vs law-abiding, productive Americans.

c matt , says: November 4, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT • 13.0 hours ago
@Hojer

persistence and evolution of the US two/uni party system is interesting.

It is due to the "winner take all" election rules rather than a proportional system. For the most part, US voters vote straight party anyway, so I don't see why we can't just go to a proportional system where you vote for a party, and based upon that party's percentage of vote, they get to fill X seats. Perhaps that would not work with the Presidential or Senate elections, but would at least work for the House.

Agent76 , says: November 4, 2020 at 5:24 pm GMT • 10.9 hours ago

Oct 29, 2020 Robert O'Brien – Trump's Foreign Policy

Donald Trump is the first American president since Ronald Reagan not to initiate a foreign war.

Yukon Jack , says: November 4, 2020 at 6:04 pm GMT • 10.3 hours ago aandrews , says: November 4, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT • 8.5 hours ago

"This round of American populism has been defeated by the Swamp ."

LEVIATHAN AND ITS ENEMIES: Anonymous Elites in Power | with F. Roger Devlin
24:30 -- 27:00

The Machiavellians, by James Burnham
The Managerial Revolution, by Burnham James
Archive | F. Roger Devlin

Zarathustra , says: November 4, 2020 at 7:54 pm GMT • 8.4 hours ago

It looks like Republicans will be keeping the Senate. They almost did win House also.
So Biden cannot do too much, except to make some wars, regulate the international trade and give some money to freeloaders residing in the cities.
In the mean time the rate of debt will significantly increase.
I do not think there could be any negotiations with Russians because Biden is unreliable.

aandrews , says: November 4, 2020 at 8:01 pm GMT • 8.3 hours ago
@aandrews

Sam Francis on the Roots of Liberal Hegemony

James Forrestal , says: November 4, 2020 at 10:10 pm GMT • 6.2 hours ago

Trump began betraying his voters almost as soon as he was sworn into office. The only figures in Trump's populist campaign who survived the 2016 election were Steve Bannon, who was banished after Charlottesville and is now facing federal charges at the hands of Trump's own Department of Justice, and Jeff Sessions, whose political career was destroyed by Trump's calculated malice.

Remember Kris Kobach and how he was going to investigate widespread election fraud? that's something that might have been useful. Whatever happened to him, anyway? Just kind of faded away. No support from Drumpf. Last I heard, Kobach was held in contempt of court for failing to adequately advise noncitizens of their "right" to vote:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/18/kris-kobach-found-contempt-court-voting-case/

And Steve King -- sure, he was initially a Cruz supporter, but backed Trump enthusiastically later on. King's mild civic nationalism and strong support for common sense, patriotic immigration reform are exactly the agenda that Trump claimed to support. But when the corporate "news" media and the entire Uniparty attacked Steve King as "inadequately anti-White" -- Trump did <a href+' https://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-distances-itself-from-king-comments/"was quick to disavow. King's longstanding fanatical Israel Firstism did nothing to save him. It's not enough to support semitic supremacism in the current year; you have to be actively anti-White as well, goy.

Robjil , says: November 4, 2020 at 10:11 pm GMT • 6.2 hours ago
@TKK d-multitudes/sam-the-banana-man/

Zemurray's original name was Schmuel Zmurri. He was born in Kishinev, Bessarabia, Russia (present-day Chişinău, Moldova) to a poor Jewish family that emigrated to America when he was fourteen years old.

In early 20th century, he went to Honduras to take over the banana crop business. He hired pe0ple to do a coup for his business interests in 1910.

https://www.cjnews.com/culture/books-and-authors/banana-trade-samuel-zemurray

geokat62 , says: November 4, 2020 at 10:29 pm GMT • 5.9 hours ago
@Sulu

Well, it official folks. U.S.A. is a Jew run banana republic.

They've even designed a new flag

The Real World , says: November 4, 2020 at 11:09 pm GMT • 5.2 hours ago
@Rufus Clyde Too group has been around for more than a decade. It was very clever to imply they were deeply involved and have them seem to be the originators of the predator exposures and firings.

Also, think it a coincidence that so many Repubs in Congress either "retired", decided to do something else or whose campaigns weren't going to be funded by the RNC in 2018? NO. They were forced out because they were corrupt.

Think Guliani bothered to go spend weeks in Ukraine just for vacation? NO, he went to get firsthand evidence of the Biden corruption. Etc, etc ..

nsa , says: November 4, 2020 at 11:21 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago
@Zarathustra "Trump did for the jew as much as he could."
How does the cliche go? Live by the jew, die by the jew? Parasites are not known for their loyalty. The tribe squeezed all it could out of their useful idiot, Donnie the Dummy, and then deftly jumped to a new host, Joey Depends, who will willingly advance the tribe's self-serving agenda in ways yet undreamed of even by the political cognoscenti. Donnie appears to be a vindictive old bitch and might just form a populist third party along the lines of Teddy Roosevelt's moronic Bull Moose now that the tribe has discarded him like a wad of used stained toilet paper.
Sulu , says: November 4, 2020 at 11:43 pm GMT • 4.6 hours ago
@Zarathustra he Jews and being vetted by them. He was a loose cannon and had to go.

I further believe that war with China is more likely under Biden than Trump. The U.S. dollar has been the reserve currency since right after WWII. The rise of China threatens that so China will eventually have to be dealt with militarily. The Jews must maintain the U.S. dollar as reserve currency else much of their ill gotten gains tend to evaporate over time.

I am positive that local Jews have large investments in China.

That one I have no information on. It could well be true.

Sulu

Sin City Milla , says: November 5, 2020 at 12:25 am GMT • 3.9 hours ago
@Bardon Kaldian

Multiculturalism has always been a stopgap, a temporary pause on the way to disintegration for empires. The elites always put their hopes in it imagining they will satisfy angry minorities with minor adjustments. It never works. Just look at the Black armed militias. Not even systematic Black privilege n Supremacism is enough for them. They won't stop even for Biden until they ethnically cleanse whites completely from large parts of the country dominate the rest. We are past elections now. The war has begun.

shylockcracy , says: November 5, 2020 at 12:59 am GMT • 3.4 hours ago

The stage is set for another false flag with everyone distracted and caught up with the plandemic and/or political unrest, and regardless of which puppet gets selected, the Ziocorporate regime is certain to be rolling out more AI and tech to manipulate, control and frame the masses. The "anti-semitic terrorism" angle of Islamism now colluding with neo-Nazi white supremacism is as hilarious as it is scary, considering the US/EU Ziocorporate terrorist regimes' recent interventions in Libya, Syria and Ukraine and the sudden rise in ISlamist events in NATO/EU countries. This late stage fusion of imperial capitalism with communism in the West is looking like a complete disaster for mankind.

"Extremism Building to the 'Doorstep of Another 9/11,' DHS Official Tells Anti-Semitism Hearing"
https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/infrastructure-security/extremism-building-to-the-doorstep-of-another-9-11-dhs-official-tells-anti-semitism-hearing/

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 5, 2020 at 1:50 am GMT • 2.5 hours ago
@Katrinka in droves, but there is massive fraud going on in GA, NC, NV, AZ, PA, WI and MI, as well as all the blue states. Not only are votes miscounted, ballots conjured out of thin air for Biden, I suspect many are also voting illegally since the DMV that registers voters in these states have no capacity to check their citizenship status. The GOP needs to form an election integrity committee and conduct a thorough audit of every state to verify their voters' eligibility. It is a massive undertaking, but it must be done. There is no integrity left in our election system.

The DNC should rename themselves the EJM, the End Justifies Means party. Democrats are a bunch of shameless frauds.

Clay Alexander , says: November 5, 2020 at 1:54 am GMT • 2.4 hours ago

It's so simple most don't even see it. American Jews are Trotskyites and Israeli Jews are Stalinists. That's it Bolshevism 101, come to think of it there is no 102. It seems Mr. Trump did not choose wisely.

Robert Dolan , says: November 5, 2020 at 2:46 am GMT • 1.6 hours ago

https://www.revolver.news/2020/09/meet-norm-eisen-legal-hatchet-man-and-central-operative-in-the-color-revolution-against-president-trump/

[Nov 05, 2020] Maybe Trump and Biden could publicly draw straws to get over with it

Most people find it rather hard to believe that the miraculous turn-around in the votes for Biden was due to anything other than fraud.
Nov 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

It seems that we all will have to fill up our popcorn supplies as the rather comical and disgraceful process of U.S. vote counting is likely to continue until maybe December 8, the safe harbor date on which the states will have to certify their electors.

The race is nowhere near where the Democrats and their supporting media had expected it to go. Just last week polls claimed that Biden would lead in Wisconsin by 17 percent . The current margin is a rather dubious 0.6 percent which upcoming recounts may well eliminate.

That the Democrats lose House seats, do not win the Senate and barely manage to drag their demented presidential candidate towards a stalemate tells a lot about their lack of sane policies. A donor party completely disinterested in what the people really want - medicare for all, no fracking etc. - will have little chance to survive a future onslaught of conservatives with a more competent figure head than Donald Trump.

There will be protests, probably violent ones, and more legal action from either side. I see no comprise possible that would satisfy both parties. I fear that, should Trump lose this election. Trumpism will only grow and make the U.S. ungovernable.

Maybe Trump and Biden could publicly draw straws to get over with it.

[Nov 05, 2020] There is some difference between terms "Undetectable" and "Defining characteristics"

Nov 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

oglalla , Nov 5 2020 13:16 utc | 19

>> Right wing politics in the US is almost undetectable.

It manifests itself in:

Those are not just "detectable". More like our "defining characteristics".

Not sure what you're referring to.

[Nov 05, 2020] 2020 election bullshit

moonofalabama.org

Smith | Nov 5 2020 13:11 utc | 17

You cannot just count up to 80% to 90% in less than 24 hours then proceed to sit on that for the next 48 hours.

This is bullshit.

[Nov 05, 2020] What matters and what does not

Nov 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

snake , Nov 5 2020 3:32 utc | 299

300 election don't count comments not one comment about the future of America? All I see here is who shall be king of the mountain. What is it that our leader (whoever it is, should do)?

1. Reduce military spending by 50% per year for each of the next four years.
2. Close 50% of the military bases each year, over each of the next four years
3. Standardize national examinations for high school and undergraduate degrees pass the examination
receive the BS or BA.. degree.. eliminate any all accreditation requirements, people can study wherever
whenever and how ever they wish. Tutorials not bureaucratic institutions will prepare the students for
the examinations.
4. eliminate copyright and patent laws so as to reduce the wealth gap and so as to return America to
from monopolism to capitalism.
5. fix the constitution so the governed have a powerful, meaningful say in not just in how uses the
government to govern, but also so the governed have a powerful say in what it is those who are elected
to the government must accomplish why they are in the employee of our elected government.
6. Find a way to get the USA activities subject to human rights courts.
7. Paint all of the white people black in order to eliminate race as condition of life.

A list of goals and objectives should be put forth on what the elected are supposed to accomplish in the next four years. In that way, it will not matter who is the President, what will matter is did he or she accomplish what it was they were elected to do?


uncle tungsten , Nov 5 2020 3:34 utc | 301

H.Schmatz #255

your quote from Rafael Poch, US´Qing Syndrome:-

There is nothing in China like the military-industrial complex of the United States that structurally fosters militarism and imperialism with its powerful "lobbies" and think tanks. The mandarins of the United States are prisoners of a network that greatly complicates their adaptation to the new world. Its powerful and efficient propaganda apparatus ("information & entertainment") presents the United States' two-headed, single-party political regime based on the money aristocracy as a democracy.

That is really well put.

"The mandarins of the United States are prisoners of a network that greatly complicates their adaptation to the new world"


Exactly that!

Nick , Nov 5 2020 3:38 utc | 303

Nevada will put Joe Biden over for the Presidential win..
Tonight.. Now the question is. How long will Biden last until Harris becomes the Queen of Spades of Pentagon?

gm , Nov 5 2020 4:57 utc | 316

RE: gm | Nov 5 2020 4:14 utc | 312


See? Twitter is cool with allowing this posting by David Litt, former Obama speechwriter, *today* 5:34 pm Nov 4 of a democrat ballot "curing" (post Nov 3 ballot harvesting) assistance operation in Georgia over the next three days (Wed, Thurs and Fri)

https://twitter.com/davidlitt/status/1324117440297639940

"About this event

Attention everyone in or near Georgia: We need YOUR help today! This race is not over and we need every single vote to be counted.

It is all hands on deck and all eyes on Georgia!

Join us today for a virtual training to learn how to knock doors to help voters cure their ballots. We need you in this fight with us today and tomorrow and Friday. We've come so far, this is how we bring it home. See you in the virtual training room and out knocking doors soon!"

And this is legal??? Under Georgia law?

gm , Nov 5 2020 5:35 utc | 317

"The guy at the source of the whole kerfluffle acknowledges that the 130,000 magical votes Tweet was based on incorrect data"

-Posted by: _K_C_ | Nov 5 2020 3:50 utc | 306

I'm not so sure about this, _K_C. His explanation for the late night MI Biden vote bump "kerfluffle" still smells sketchy to me. Given the stakes, could someone have gotten that guy to "flip" his statement after the fact?

See this from tonight's Tucker Carlson show:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/trump-legal-adviser-jenna-ellis-discusses-magical-138000-michigan-biden-votes-appeared-nowhere-middle-night-video/

PS: you will note that all the Twitter post links to the data/details in the story were evaporated by Twitter.


[Nov 05, 2020] Roaming Charges- The Fuck Up - CounterPunch.org

Notable quotes:
"... Jeffrey St. Clair is editor of CounterPunch. His most recent books are Bernie and the Sandernistas: Field Notes From a Failed Revolution and The Big Heat: Earth on the Brink (with Joshua Frank) He can be reached at: [email protected] or on Twitter @ JSCCounterPunch . ..."
Nov 05, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org

Roaming Charges: The Fuck Up BY JEFFREY ST. CLAIR Facebook Twitter Reddit Email

"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

Barack Obama

+ The outcome is still in play, but if Biden loses, we're going to hear a lot of Malarky about why and most of it will be bullshit. (When I called it a night, at 2am Left Coast Time, Biden had come back to claim to a narrow lead in Wisconsin.)

+ I predicted in my column last Friday that the polls were underestimating Trump's support (or voter indifference to Biden) by 3 percent. It looks more like 5 to 6 percent in many of the decisive states. In Wisconsin, for example, Biden was favored by 8 percent. At 2Am, he was leading by 0.3 percent. The elite consultants and pollsters may have fucked up more profoundly than the Democrats who relied upon their statistical sorcery.

+ In the midst of a killer pandemic and mass unemployment, the Democrats could have offered the nation a universal health care plan, a moratorium on evictions and a guaranteed basic income. Instead, they believed that the key to victory over Trump was to meld neoliberal economics with a neoconservative foreign policy. I don't know where they got this idea. Probably, the same place Obama got his health insurance plan, the Heritage Foundation.

+ The Democrats' candidate voted for the Iraq war, NAFTA, the destruction of welfare, helped instigate the war on drugs, wrote federal crime laws that incarcerated two generations of young black & brown Americans and has preached austerity his entire political career. I'm not surprised by the inconclusive results of an election which should have been a sure thing.

+ I've long argued that Biden was a weaker candidate than HRC, who was terrible. At least HRC had a rationale for her campaign. Biden had none. The argument was that Biden wasn't hated as much as Hillary. Perhaps. But most people just didn't feel anything about him. Which is fatal for a politician.

+ Look on the bright side. Just think how much money the DNC will raise off of a Biden loss

+ Trump's 2am speech was worthy of Somoza's infamous declaration, "Yes, you won the election. But I won the counting."

+ Trump says he will be going to the U.S. Supreme Court to stop ALL vote counting across the country. "As far as I am concerned, we have already won," Trump says.

+ Trump says a sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise those who voted for him. Sad, indeed.

+ By contrast, Biden's passive speech sounded like Tsar Alexander's the night before the battle of Austerlitz, completely unaware of the concussive force that's going to hit him in the morning .

+ Biden is speaking, but saying nothing. Biden should never speak. Ever.

+ Recall how Biden spent most of the early primary season telling people, most of them young progressives, to vote for someone else if they didn't like his reactionary policies? Surprise!

+ Biden, who spent much of the year recruiting war criminals from the Bush administration, did worse with Republicans than HRC did in 2016.

+ Remember the Zoom election simulation the New Yorker did that got Jeffrey Toobin so excited? Do you think this was the scenario that triggered him?

+ The Biden campaign preferred to court the exiled neocons who started the Iraq war, than Hispanics and progressives. They may not lose, but they probably deserve to

+ Back in May, the Biden campaign announced that they didn't consider Latinos a key part of their " path to victory. " This kind of arrogance yielded the predictable results.

+ Hispanic voters per early 2020 exit polls:

Florida:

2016: Clinton +27
2020: Biden +8

Georgia:
2016: Clinton +40
2020: Biden +25

Ohio:
2016: Clinton +41
2020: Biden +24

+ The results from Starr County, Texas, the most Latino county in the United States (96% Latino) and the second poorest in Texas, with a poverty rate of 33%. In 2016, it went for Clinton by 60 percent. In 2020, Biden won it by only 5 percent, with >98% reporting.

+ The argument against Bernie was that he'd never win the Cuban exile vote in Florida.

+ I guess that Ana Navarro gambit was a bust

+ Biden kept saying this was a fight for the "soul of the nation". What if the nation never had a soul and it was actually a fight for health care, jobs, and a livable climate?

+ We were told that this election was all about "saving democracy" and in order to save democracy, the Democrats had to rig their primaries for Biden.

+ I was never a big fan of Sanders. But he gave people policies to vote for. Biden ran away from all them and offered nothing of substance on his own. The best he had to offer was Kamala Harris, a hard-ass former prosecutor who progressives distrusted and the right could race-bait and caricaturize as the second coming of Angela Davis.

+ Still, it's easy to proclaim that Bernie would have won. It's a proposition that can't be proven. But he would have been shackled by the same party apparatus that failed to win the senate and lost ground in the House. Until the Democratic Party itself is reconstituted, it's electoral fortunes are going to continue to erode.

+ Had the feeling the night might go south for the Democrats when the first crop of exit polls came out showing that 48% of voters believed the COVID pandemic was under control .

+ Trump, at 63,085,022 votes, has already amassed more votes than in 2016.

+ According to the early exit polls, Trump did better in 2020 with every race and gender except . white men!

Change from 2016:

White Men -5
White Women +2
Black Men +4
Black Women +4
Latino Men +3
Latino Women +3
Other +5

+ Clearly, this election would have been a Trump rout without the intervention of COVID.

+ This symbolizes the entire night Republican David Andahl, a North Dakota legislator who died of COVID-19, won re-election .

+ Good news for the squad, plus Cori Bush, who also won. Their victories are, of course, also good news for FoxNews, which can spend the next two years scaremongering them

+ 26 out of the 30 nationally-endorsed Democratic Socialist candidates won their elections.

+ Meanwhile, Scott DesJarlais slept with subordinates, prescribed opioids for his young lover-patients and pressured one to get an abortion, still won in Tennessee, running as a pro-life, family values Republican

+ Looks like the awful Prop 22 will pass in California, cementing drivers' status as independent contractors as Uber, Doordash and other gig companies prevail in their $200M bid to defeat legislation making them employees.

+ Memo to Justice Barrett: "Louisiana has passed Amendment 1, which establishes there is no constitutional right to an abortion."

+ Georgia is still in play and could go for both Biden and Q, thus spawning a decade's worth of new conspiracy theories

+ It turns out, the only debate Biden seems to have won was the one that was canceled.

+ Quitter!

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+ The Democrats can't blame the Greens this time (though I'm sure they'll find some reason to hurl insults at Susan Sarandon), having gotten them kicked off the ballot in key states. Perhaps they'll blame the Libertarians for not pulling enough votes from Trump.

+ Go figure .Trump did better in counties with high COVID death rates than he did in 2016.

+ Trump stomped Biden in Florida, yet the state overwhelmingly passed a $15 minimum wage referendum.

+ Florida Polls are the statistician's version of Florida Man

+ Biden had hopes of winning Iowa, but this once Democratic state is slipping further and further away

2000: Gore by 0.32%
2004: Bush by 0.67%
2008: Obama by 8.5%
2012: Obama by 5.6%
2016: Trump by 9.3%
2020: Trump by 8%

+ It was a good night for drugs. Oregon becomes the first state to decriminalize low-level drug possession and to legalize the use of magic mushrooms.

+ South Dakota, Arizona, Montana, New Jersey all legalized marijuana at the ballot box tonight, a policy which isn't supported by either major party.

+ This polling reinforces my view that if Biden loses, it will be because he spent too much time campaigning and not enough time staying out of sight "Two-thirds of voters say their choice for president was driven by their opinion of President Trump," according to AP VoteCast .

+ The EU is keeping Americans on the no fly list , which is probably prudent given all the celebrities who've vowed to flee the States in the event of Trump's reelection.

+ All Quiet on the Lincoln Project Front?

+ The Lincoln Project raised $67 million. Republican Voters Against Trump raised another $10 million. 93% of Republicans voted for Trump in 2020, up from 90% in 2016.

+ WH Auden: "America can break your heart."

Jeffrey St. Clair is editor of CounterPunch. His most recent books are Bernie and the Sandernistas: Field Notes From a Failed Revolution and The Big Heat: Earth on the Brink (with Joshua Frank) He can be reached at: [email protected] or on Twitter @ JSCCounterPunch .

[Nov 05, 2020] Leveraging the Ruling Class's Loss of Legitimacy by Roger D. Harris

Notable quotes:
"... New York Times, ..."
"... The financial elites disproportionately lavished their support on the Democrats. The oligarchs understood more clearly than certain elements of the left where their class interests reside. "Wall Street," Politico ..."
"... While the outcome of the presidential election is uncertain, the legitimacy of the ruling class has surely been sullied by the arguably ugliest campaign in recent history. The elite club must now figure out how to anoint their new emperor without further damaging their image. The hiccups over their transfer of power is their dilemma and our good fortune. ..."
"... Peace and Freedom Party ..."
Nov 04, 2020 | dissidentvoice.org

The polls closed with " no winner yet in cliffhanger presidential election," as of Wednesday evening. Despite a period of uncertainty, which is typically the nemesis of Wall Street , the Dow climbed 0.9%, the S&P 500 opened 1.5% higher, and the Nasdaq Composite jumped 2.6%.

The explanation is that the financial elites know that they win regardless of who occupies the Oval Office, which is something that some leftists , who had advocated temporarily subordinating an independent working-class alternative to campaign for the leading neoliberal candidate, did not firmly grasp.

Trouncing the contender that Noam Chomsky hyperbolically called " worse than Hitler " would be a blow to overt white supremacy. But bedrock institutional racism, entombed in the US carceral state, will still endure and the tasks of the left will remain.

Legitimizing neoliberal rule

The left's vote was not needed to ensure a Biden victory. But it was needed to justify voting for the "lesser evil" based on the false narrative of TINA – "there is no alternative."

The Revolutionary Communist Party, normally marginalized by the corporate media, received banner headlines when it declared for Biden. The "paper of record" for the Democratic wing of the two-party duopoly, The New York Times, opportunistically posted an op-ed by a self-described socialist because it pleaded , "leftists should vote for Biden in droves."

The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) readily acknowledged "there is no choice at the top of the ticket that would advance our movement or constitute a 'victory' for democratic socialism." But that did not deter them from jumping on the Biden bandwagon. DSA seemed more worried about Biden losing than about Sanders being excluded by the DNC.

It is not the left's responsibility to strategize how the Democrats could have run this or future campaigns. Incidentally, a Biden/Harris victory would preclude a liberalish Democrat, such as a member of the Squad , making a run as the Democratic standard bearer for next 12 to 16 years.

The contribution of those parttime leftists who campaigned for Biden was not to put him into the White House – they didn't have the numbers to do that – but to help legitimize neoliberal rule. Their preemptive political surrender obscured the failure of a political system incapable of addressing the critical issues of our times.

Politics of fear obscured critical issues

Fear was the operational motivator for apocalyptic fantasies of a fascist coup, which served to obviate a progressive agenda. A tanking economy, a still uncontained pandemic, and unprecedented protests against racialized police brutality were attributed solely to Trump's watch, instead of being understood as also endemic to the neoliberal order.

Neither presidential candidate advocated comprehensive healthcare in a time of pandemic, with both in effect opting for triage of the most vulnerable – people of color and the elderly . The two wings of the duopoly mainly differ on this existential health issue over the advisability of wearing face masks .

Climate catastrophe remains an existential threat. Biden may throw a few more crumbs than Trump in the direction of the alternative energy industry. But both candidates contested to see who was more enthusiastic about fracking , while they agree that tax cuts and subsidies to the fossil fuel industry will be continued. Biden's predecessor, whom he served as VP, boasted "we've added enough new oil and gas pipeline to circle the Earth and then some." The next four years portends a choice of someone who denies global warming or another who believes in the science but does not act on it.

The financial elites disproportionately lavished their support on the Democrats. The oligarchs understood more clearly than certain elements of the left where their class interests reside. "Wall Street," Politico reported , grew "giddy about Biden," because Uncle Joe would best help recover their legitimacy while carrying their water. The financiers also hedged their bets with contributions to Trump. Along with the DNC, they understood that another four years of the current occupant would be better than a Bernie Sanders presidency for the owning class.

Game of Thrones

While the outcome of the presidential election is uncertain, the legitimacy of the ruling class has surely been sullied by the arguably ugliest campaign in recent history. The elite club must now figure out how to anoint their new emperor without further damaging their image. The hiccups over their transfer of power is their dilemma and our good fortune.

It may be too early to tell, but the widely feared Trump coup has yet to be realized. The Proud Boys, with their mail-order munitions, have yet to replace the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Nervous leftists, apprehensive about a Trump coup, are calling upon labor to wage a general strike to install a neoliberal into the White House. Joe Hill would find that ironic at best.

While "President Donald Trump has cast doubt on whether he will commit to a peaceful transfer of power," CNN revealed , "the secretive process to prepare a would-be Biden administration has been underway for months with help from top Trump officials (emphasis added)."

Biden may now be less unpalatable than Trump, but Uncle Joe had the advantage of not being in power for the last four years. He may not look so hot after another term of neoliberal rule, characterized by increasing austerity for working people, entrenched institutional racism, oppressive surveillance and security state measures, and an aggressive imperialism abroad. Substantial differences exist between Trump and Biden, but those differences do not extend to which class they serve.

Recovering the left alternative

With record turnout , never before have so many voted for so little. Now is auspicious for alternatives to the two-party duopoly.

As reported by Alan Mcleod, Trump's abysmal approval rating of 42% is barely edged out by Biden's of 46%. Two-thirds of prospective Democratic voters polled claim they would be voting against Trump rather than for Biden; only a quarter of the prospective Republicans are voting so much for Trump as against the Democrats. Biden way squeak through on the appeal of not being Trump, but that will wear thin quickly.

With both major parties continuing to abandon the interests of working people, the left must either take the initiative or surrender it to a growing right wing. Rather than this being the time when never before has there been a greater need to support the lesser-evil Democrats and give them an extraordinary mandate to rule , this is a time to leverage the ruling class's loss of legitimacy to articulate a left alternative.

Taking a left initiative, despite the loss of legitimacy of the ruling elites, is challenging. With a Republican victory, the left has historically gotten absorbed into a resistance that devolves into an assistance – the graveyard of social movements that is the Democratic Party. With a Democratic victory, the illusion of hope and that anyone's better than Trump are false excuses to "give Biden a chance." After campaigning for the Democrat, it will be problematic for these same left forces to credibly do an about-face and fight him. As for an independent electoral left, more rigorous party registration rules targeting left alternatives, recently imposed by Democrats , foreshadow fewer left choices on future ballots.

However, the majority of working people support a progressive agenda, which has been ignored and suppressed by the duopoly:

These were among the critical issues that were lost in the distracting political theatre of the 2020 campaign and the basis for a renewed left initiative.

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[Nov 05, 2020] America Voted for the Worst Possible Result

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Tim Kirby November 4, 2020 © Photo: REUTERS/Mike Segar

If one cares about the stability of the United States then they should have been wishing for a decisive victory in yesterday's election. A decisive victory for whom you ask? Perhaps in the long run that could be relevant, but in the short term it really doesn't matter at all, the main thing is that someone needs to walk away as the undisputed champion for the sake of America.

Not only has the United States had a very solid track record of stability due to having the best possible geopolitical location on the planet, but also in part thanks to the wisdom of those within the two-party system to value said stability over a temporary victory time after time.

Image: is getting rid of Trump really worth killing the golden goose? For some apparently it is.

As a teenager any thinking American will quickly wake up to the fact that with " Hanging Chads ", Gerrymandering , and rumors of the dead and non-citizens voting, that our electoral system is at least highly and deeply flawed if not completely illegitimate. With all the "irregularities" that happen in November it seems to young minds that this is simply a massive farce that needs to end.

However, as one gets older we can see the wisdom in both American parties constantly cheating and yet acknowledging every election as legit, even during the bizarre final moments of the battle like those between Bush and Gore in Florida . The two-party system must have gotten the picture that both teams are going to do anything they can to win and that this is perfectly natural. But in turn, just because both teams cheat there is no reason to declare the competition to be illegitimate as a whole, lest we repeat the U.S. Civil War or the early days in the Russian Revolution in which many factions fought till there could "be only one". Accepting that both sides can and will cheat but they must acknowledge the winner is critical for American stability and perfectly reasonable to those of us with grey hair.

Image: The dangerous electoral situation at the time of writing (source: Fox News)

The issue at hand in 2020 is that this old wisdom of how to play the game in Washington is dying or dead. Both sides are signaling to the other that they will not acknowledge a peaceful transfer/retaining of power . And just a day before voting, suburban soccer mom extremist Nancy Pelosi said that the House is ready to decide who will become President if the elections are "disputed" i.e. they are prepared to bureaucratically make Biden become President of the United States. This type of rhetoric could have big consequences for America as a whole.

With ballots still left to be counted, Trump says, in his usual exaggerated assuredness, that 'Frankly, (his side) did win this election' and is already making plans to go to the Supreme Court. This seems to be really jumping the gun, perhaps he knows about things happening behind the scenes that we do not, or he is simply no better than Pelosi when it comes to keeping their yap shut.

Image: Nancy Pelosi does not seem concerned about risking American stability for a presidential party victory.

So far the official threats that we have heard are all focussed on using bureaucratic procedures against each other, but with BLM, Antifa and other forces already out on the streets and possibly awaiting orders, certain observing forces could throw gasoline on the fire at any moment. Violence on a non-organized/revolutionary level has already started (as expected) with 4 Trump supporters being stabbed .

This is why the results of the election as they stand at this moment are the worst they could possibly be – as a strong victory for either would almost certainly guarantee the United States would remain stable for at least another 4 years. The "score" we are seeing right now is fertile ground for Color Revolution like action.

We should not forget that Color Revolutions happen almost always in connection with hot election cycles and take place in the nation's capital with full media support on the side of the rebels. All these check boxes are currently ticked and if cooler heads don't prevail Americans will get to experience the lifestyle, violence and fear they brought to the former Soviet Union after it lost the Cold War via the CIA's/State Department's Color Revolutions.

It is imperative for cooler heads on both sides to remind their colleagues that America did not become a super power due to "exceptionalism" but instead thanks to location, certain opportunities (WWII), and select wise policies.

Then again if you are an Accelarationist, well, it looks like your moment has finally come. The Right and Left are playing chicken and it doesn't look like anyone is going to blink.

[Nov 05, 2020] The DNC prints Biden marked ballots like Fed prints the green paper. it was $3 trillion Americans who voted for Joe.

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Kiza , Nov 5 2020 2:59 utc | 294

The DNC prints Biden marked ballots like Fed prints the green paper. it was $3 trillion Americans who voted for Joe.

[Nov 05, 2020] A honest manifesto for the person who will win 2020 Presidential election

Nov 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Egon von Greyerz via GoldSwitzerland.com,

The US election has finally taken place. During the campaign, both candidates have totally avoided the critical issue that will bring the US down in the next four years. The election campaign has been ugly but totally avoided the monumental problem facing the American people.

Clearly neither of them wanted to tell the voters that he will take over the running of a totally bankrupt country that is likely to collapse economically, financially and morally in the next four years.


[Nov 05, 2020] Understanding the Tri-fold Nature of the Deep State -- Strategic Culture

Nov 05, 2020 | www.strategic-culture.org

Not that long ago the United States came close to total dissolution.

The financial system was bankrupt, speculation had run amok, and all infrastructure had fallen into disarray over the course of 30 years of unbroken free trade. To make matters worse, the nation was on the verge of a civil war and international financiers in London and Wall Street gloated over the immanent destruction of the first nation on earth to be established not upon hereditary institutions, but rather on the consent of the governed and mandated to serve the general welfare.

Although one might think that I am referring now to today's America, I am in fact referring to the United States of 1860.

The Trifold Deep State

In my past two articles in this series, I discussed how a new system of political economy was established by Benjamin Franklin and his disciples in the wake of the war of independence driven by protectionism, national banking and internal improvements.

I also demonstrated that the rise of the thing known as today's "deep state" can also be understood as a three-headed beast which arose in its earliest incarnation under the leadership of arch traitor Aaron Burr who established Wall Street, killed Alexander Hamilton and devoted his life to the cause of dissolving the union. After having been caught in the act of sabotage, Burr escaped arrest in 1807 by running off to England where he live in Jeremy Bentham's mansion for 5 years, only to return to oversee a new plot to break up the union that eventually boiled over in 1860.

The three prongs of the operation that Burr led on behalf of British intelligence and which remains active to this very day, can loosely be described as follows:

Some Uncomfortable Questions

The story has been told of Lincoln's murder in tens of thousands of books and yet more often than not the narrative of a "single lone gunman" is imposed onto the story by researchers who are either too lazy or too corrupt to look for the evidence of a larger plot.

How many of those popular narratives infused into the western zeitgeist over the decades even acknowledge the simple fact that John Wilkes Boothe was carrying a $500 bank draft signed by Ontario Bank of Montreal President Henry Starnes (later to become Montreal Mayor) when he was shot dead at Garrett Farm on April 26, 1865?

How many people have been exposed to the vast Southern Confederacy secret service operations active throughout the civil war in Montreal, Toronto and Halifax which was under the firm control of Confederate Secretary of State Judah Benjamin and his handlers in British intelligence?

How many people know that Boothe spent at least 5 weeks in the fall of 1864 in Montreal associating closely with the highest echelons of British and Southern intelligence including Starnes, and confederate spy leaders Jacob Thompson and George Sanders?

Demonstrating his total ignorance of the process that controlled him, Booth wrote to a friend on October 28, 1864: "I have been in Montreal for the last 3 or 4 weeks and no one (not even myself) knew when I would return".

On The Trail of the Assassins

After Lincoln was murdered, a manhunt to track down the intelligence networks behind the assassination was underway that eventually led to the hanging of four low level co-conspirators who history has shown were just as much patsies as John Wilkes Boothe.

Days later, President Johnson issued a proclamation saying : "It appears from evidence in the Bureau of Military Justice that the murder of Abraham Lincoln [was] incited, concerted, and procured by and between Jefferson Davis, late of Richmond, Va., and Jacob Thompson, Clement C. Clay, [Nathaniel] Beverly Tucker, George N. Sanders, William C. Cleary, and other rebels and traitors against the government of the United States harbored in Canada."

Two days before Booth was shot, Secretary of War Edwin Stanton wrote : "This Department has information that the President's murder was organized in Canada and approved at Richmond."

Knowledge of Canada's confederate operations was well known to the federal authorities in those days even though the majority among leading historians today are totally ignorant of this fact.

George Sanders remains one of the most interesting figures among Booth's handlers in Canada. As a former Ambassador to England under the presidency of Franklin Pierce (1853-1857), Sanders was a close friend of international anarchist Giuseppe Mazzini – the founder of the Young Europe movement. Sanders who wrote "Mazzini and Young Europe" in 1852, had the honor of being a leading member of the southern branch of the Young America Movement (while Ralph Waldo Emerson was a self-proclaimed leader of the northern branch of Young America ). Jacob Thompson, who was named in the Johnson dispatch above, was a former Secretary of the Interior under President Pierce, handler of Booth and acted as the top controller of the Confederacy secret service in Montreal.

As the book Montreal City of Secrets (2017), author Barry Sheehy proves that not only was Canada the core of Confederate Secret Services, but also coordinated a multi pronged war from the emerging "northern confederacy" onto Lincoln's defense of the union alongside Wall Street bankers while the president was fighting militarily to stop the southern secession. Sheehy writes: "By 1863, the Confederate Secret Service was well entrenched in Canada. Funding came from Richmond via couriers and was supplemented by profits from blockade running."

The Many Shapes of War from the North

Although not having devolved to direct military engagement, the Anglo-Canadian war on the Union involved several components:

Financial warfare: The major Canadian banks dominant in the 19 th century were used not only by the confederacy to pay British operations in the construction of war ships, but also to receive much needed infusions of cash from British Financiers throughout the war. A financial war on Lincoln's greenback was waged under the control of Montreal based confederate bankers John Porterfield and George Payne and also JP Morgan to "short" the greenback.

By 1864, the subversive traitor Salmon Chase had managed to tie the greenback to a (London controlled) gold standard thus making its value hinge upon gold speculation. During a vital moment of the war, these financiers coordinated a mass "sell off" of gold to London driving up the price of gold and collapsing the value of the U.S. dollar crippling Lincoln's ability to fund the war effort.

Direct Military intervention Thwarted: As early as 1861, the Trent Crisis nearly induced a hot war with Britain when a union ship intervened onto a British ship in international waters and arrested two high level confederate agents en route to London. Knowing that a two-fold war at this early stage was unwinnable, Lincoln pushed back against hot heads within his own cabinet who argued for a second front saying "one war at a time". Despite this near miss, London wasted no time deploying over 10 000 soldiers to Canada for the duration of the war ready to strike down upon the Union at a moment's notice and kept at bay in large measure due to the bold intervention of the Russian fleet to both Atlantic and Pacific coasts of the USA . This was a clear message to both England and to Napoleon III's France (who were stationed across the Mexican border) to stay out of America's war.

Despite Russia's intervention, Britain continued to build warships for the Confederacy which devastated the Union navy during the war and which England had to pay $15.5 million to the USA in 1872 under the Alabama Claims.

Terrorism: It is less well known today than it was during the 19 th century that confederate terror operations onto the north occurred throughout the civil war with raids on Union POW camps, efforts to burn popular New York hotels, blowing up ships on the Mississippi, and the infamous St Albans raid of October 1964 on Vermont and attacks on Buffalo, Chicago, Sandusky, Ohio, Detroit, and Pennsylvania. While the St Albans raiders were momentarily arrested in Montreal, they were soon released under the logic that they represented a "sovereign state" at conflict with another "sovereign state" with no connection with Canada (perhaps a lesson can be learned here for Meng Wanzhou's lawyers?).

Assassination: I already mentioned that a $550 note was found on Boothe's body with the signature of Ontario Bank president Henry Starnes which the failed actor would have received during his October 1864 stay in Montreal. What I did not mention is that Booth stayed at the St Lawrence Hall Hotel which served as primary headquarters for the Confederacy from 1863-65. Describing the collusion of Northern Copperheads, anti-Lincoln republicans, and Wall Street agents, Sheehy writes: "All of these powerful northerners were at St. Lawrence Hall rubbing elbows with the Confederates who used the hotel as an unofficial Headquarters. This was the universe in which John Wilkes Booth circulated in Canada."

In a 2014 expose , historian Anton Chaitkin, points out that the money used by Boothe came directly from a $31,507.97 transfer from London arranged by the head of European confederate secret service chief James D. Bulloch. It is no coincidence that Bulloch happens to also be the beloved uncle and mentor of the same Teddy Roosevelt who became the president over the dead body of Lincoln-follower William McKinley (assassinated in 1901).

In his expose, Chaitkin wrote:

"James D. Bulloch was the maternal uncle, model and strategy-teacher to future U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt. He emerged from the shadows of the Civil War when his nephew Teddy helped him to organize his papers and to publish a sanitized version of events in his 1883 memoir, The Secret Service of the Confederate States in Europe. Under the protection of imperial oligarchs such as Lord Salisbury and other Cecil family members, working in tandem with Britain's military occupation of its then-colony Canada, Bulloch arranged English construction and crewing for Confederate warships that notoriously preyed upon American commerce."

The Truth is Buried Under the Sands of History

While four low level members of Booth's cell were hanged on July 7, 1865 after a four month show trial (1), the actual orchestrators of Lincoln's assassination were never brought to justice with nearly every leading member of the confederate leadership having escaped to England in the wake of Lincoln's murder. Even John Surrat (who was among the eight who faced trial) avoided hanging when his case was dropped, and his $25 000 bail was mysteriously paid by an anonymous benefactor unknown to this day. After this, Surrat escaped to London where the U.S. Consuls demands for his arrest were ignored by British authorities.

Confederate spymaster Judah Benjamin escaped arrest and lived out his days as a Barrister in England, and Confederate President Jefferson Davies speaking to adoring fans in Quebec in June 1867 encouraged the people to reject the spread of republicanism and instead embrace the new British Confederation scheme that would soon be imposed weeks later . Davies spoke to the Canadian band performing Dixie at the Royal Theater: "I hope that you will hold fast to their British principles and that you may ever strive to cultivate close and affectionate connections with the mother country".

With the loss of Lincoln, and the 1868 death of Thaddeus Stevens, Confederate General Albert Pike established restoration of the southern oligarchy and sabotage of Lincoln's restoration with the rise of the KKK, and renewal of Southern Rite Freemasonry. Over the ensuing years, an all out assault was launched on Lincoln's Greenbacks culminating in the Specie Resumption Act of 1875 tying the U.S. financial system to British "hard money" monetarism and paving the way for the later financial coup known as the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (2).

While the Southern Confederacy plot ultimately failed, Britain's "other confederacy operation launched in 1864 was successfully consolidated with the British North America Act of July 1, 1867. The hoped-for extension of trans continental rail lines through British Columbia and into Alaska and Russia were sabotaged as told in the Real Story Behind the Alaska Purchase of 1867.

Instead of witnessing a new world system of sovereign nation states under a multipolar order of collaboration driven by international infrastructure projects as Lincoln's followers like William Seward, Ulysses Grant, William Gilpin and President McKinley envisioned , a new age of war and empire re-asserted itself throughout the 20 th century.

It was this same trifold Deep State that contended with Franklin Roosevelt and his patriotic Vice President Henry Wallace for power during the course of WWII, and it was this same beast that ran the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963. As New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison demonstrated in his book On the Trail of the Assassins (1991 ), Kennedy's murder was arranged by a complex assassination network that brought into play Southern secret intelligence assets in Louisiana, and Texas, Wall Street financiers, and a strange assassination bureau based in Montreal named Permindex under the leadership of Maj. Gen. Louis Mortimer Bloomfield. This was the same intelligence operation that grew out of MI6's Camp X in Ottawa during WWII and changed its name but not its functions during the Cold War. This is the same British Imperial complex that has been attempting to undo the watershed moment of 1776 for over 240 years.

It is this same tumor in the heart of the USA that has invested everything in a gamble to put their senile tool Joe Biden into the seat of the Presidency and oust the first genuinely nationalist American president the world has seen in nearly 60 years.

The author can be reached at [email protected]

[Nov 05, 2020] Exclusive- How the Bidens Made Off With Millions in Chinese Cash -

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Exclusive: How The Bidens Made Off With Millions In Chinese Cash

New documents show that as regulators closed in, Hunter struck a fresh deal with his Chinese partners World Food Program USA Board Chairman Hunter Biden speaks at the World Food Program USA's Annual McGovern-Dole Leadership Award Ceremony at Organization of American States on April 12, 2016 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Paul Morigi/Getty Images for World Food Program USA)

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ARTHUR BLOOM

The Senate's report on Hunter Biden's activities released several months ago, which was spun by the New York Times as having shown "no evidence of wrongdoing," nevertheless had several important gaps in the business activities of the troubled son of the former vice president.

Draft legal documents and 2017 bank records obtained by The American Conservative show at least $5 million was transferred to Hunter and Jim Biden from companies associated with the Chinese conglomerate CEFC, with millions coming after the company had come under legal scrutiny both in the United States and China.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13045197114175078?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13045197114175078-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theamericanconservative.com&rid=www.theamericanconservative.com&width=838

CEFC official Patrick Ho was arrested in November 2017 and charged by the Southern District of New York with corruption, and was convicted last year. In addition, on or about March 1, 2018, CEFC Chairmen Ye Jianming was arrested in China for economic crimes and hasn't been seen since. CEFC assets in China were seized by Chinese state agencies. In the U.S., major beneficiaries were Hunter and Jim Biden.

What the following documents show is that as regulators moved to seize CEFC's assets, Hunter Biden attempted to take control of the company founded in partnership with it. Instead, after striking a deal with two CEFC employees in the U.S., the funds were disbursed over the next six months to his and his uncle's companies until it was all gone, in total at least $5 million.

2017 Bank Records

On August 5, 2017, the Bidens and CEFC entered into a 50-50 limited liability company agreement (Hudson West III) between Owasco, Hunter Biden's company, and Hudson West V (CEFC). The Sep 22, 2020 report from the Senate Judiciary Committee (the "HGSAC Report") surmised an agreement like this, but a copy can be seen, for the first time here . In early 2017, CEFC was ranked as one of the top 500 corporations in the world.

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Hudson West III set up two bank accounts with Cathay Bank, with the first set up on or about August 5. A company associated with CEFC deposited $5 million into the account on August 8; no contribution was made by the Bidens. On Nov 2, 2017, CEFC Limited deposited a further $1 million into the account. (Subsequently, the Hudson West III account shows a wire of $1 million back to CEFC Limited on Nov 21, followed a few days later on Nov 27 by a credit memo for $999,938. The HGSAC Report interpreted the Nov 21 wire transfer as a return of the $1 million, but appear to have omitted consideration of the credit memo apparently reversing the return). The net result is that CEFC and its affiliates deposited almost exactly $6 million into Hudson West III in 2017.

In the 5 months between August 8 and Dec 31, 2017, Hudson West III disbursed almost $1.6 million to Owasco (Hunter Biden) in wire transfers and credit card binges by the Bidens. The transfers appear to have been structured as $165,000 in monthly payments, plus two other payments of $400,000 and $220,387.

Collated screengrabs from Hudson West III bank statements showing payments to Owasco (Wells Fargo Clearing Services LLC)

The HGSAC Report reported on the $99,000 credit card spree by the Bidens in early September 2017, but, in addition to that spree, there was an additional $77,700 in credit card sprees, making a total of $176,700 for the five month period.

Figure 2. Screengrab from Hudson West III bank statements showing credit card disbursements

Total expenditures by Hudson West III in the five months were $1,947,439, of which $1,522,000 went to the Bidens (via Owasco and credit cards). Hudson West III bank accounts contained more than $4 million in cash at the end of 2017.

March 2018 Deal

Shortly after the arrest of CEFC Chairman Ye Jianming on March 1, 2018, there appears to have been a rolling seizure of CEFC assets. Even with the profligate spending by the Bidens, Hudson West III would still have had about $3.5 million in cash in March.

On March 26, a Chinese-American employee who was fiercely loyal to Hunter suggested to him that Hunter and the two CEFC employees in the U.S. (Mervyn Yan and Kevin Dong) figure out a way to appropriate the Hudson West III cash before it was frozen by Chinese regulators or receivers:

you guys (You/Mervyn/Kevin) figure out a way to have the money transferred to the right U.S. account before any restriction levied by Chinese regulators or appointed new boss in charge of manage the enterprise Ye left behind.

In fact, Hunter had already begun the process of appropriating Hudson West III cash before a receiver could arrive. On March 18, Hunter's lawyer sent a letter to Mervyn Yan proposing that Hudson West V (the proximate CEFC entity) assign its interest in Hudson West III to Owasco (Hunter), a transaction which would give control of all the cash to Hunter (see here , and here ).

On or about March 30, 2018, Hunter and the two Chinese appear to have worked out a different arrangement. Among the newly available documents are redlined versions of an assignment agreement in which Hudson West V assigned its 50% interest in Hudson West III to Coldharbour Capital Inc., with Kevin Dong the proposed signatory for Hudson West V, Mervyn Yan for Coldharbour Capital and Hunter signatory for Owasco's consent to the assignment.

The HGSAC Report does not appear to have had access to these documents: they noted that ownership of Hudson West III at some point was 50% Coldharbour, but does not appear to have been aware of the prior ownership of this interest by Hudson West V or the assignment to Coldharbour in late March 2018.

During the next six months, the cash was completely drained into the accounts of Owasco and Coldharbour, spent on consulting fees and expenses. According to the HGSAC Report, total payments from Hudson West III to Owasco amount to an astonishing $4,790,375 by September 2018, when the Hudson West III accounts were totally depleted. In November 2018, Hudson West III was dissolved by Owasco and Coldharbour.

From the 2017 bank records, we know that $1,444,000 had been transferred to Owasco in 2017 (excluding direct payment of credit card sprees); thus, transfers to Owasco in the first eight months of 2018 were approximately $3,345,000.

The assignment of Hudson West V's interest in Hudson West III to Coldharbour and the dissipation of cash to the Hudson West III managers would probably not have stood up to a determined receiver appointed by the Chinese parent company, but there doesn't appear to have been any attempt by the parent company to stop or control the dissipation of Hudson West III's cash reserves.

Lion Hall (Jim Biden) Invoices

Included in the newly available material are invoices to Owasco and, separately, to Hudson West III from Jim Biden doing business as Lion Hall Group. The HGSAC Report stated that, between Aug 14, 2017 and Aug 3, 2018, Owasco sent 20 wires totaling $1,398,999 to Lion Hall Group. The newly available documents show that Jim Biden charged Owasco $82,500 per month as a "monthly retainer for international business development":

Readers will recall that Hudson West III bank statements showed regular monthly payments of $165,000 for the last 5 months of 2017. The corollary is that Hunter split this regular monthly payment from Hudson West III 50:50 with Jim Biden. The HGSAC Report notes that the payments to Lion Hall Group had been flagged by Owasco's bank (Wells Fargo) for potential criminal activity. The new documents contain an inquiry email from Wells Fargo compliance, together with a reply from Hunter which was unresponsive on the key compliance questions. By the time that Wells Fargo raised its compliance concerns, the Hudson West III cash had been exhausted and with it, presumably the stream of 50-50 payments to Uncle Jim.

As noted above, in addition to the regular $165,000 monthly payments, Owasco received other large transfers in 2017 and presumably in 2018. It is not known whether Uncle Jim split these 50-50 as well, or whether this was a side transaction by Hunter.

Concurrent with this flood of money from CEFC, Hunter continued to receive a lavish stipend from Burisma. Nonetheless, by the end of 2018, Hunter had hundreds of thousands in tax liens. In March 2019, despite having received millions from Chinese business interests, Hunter even had to plead with former partner Jeffrey Cooper to email him $100 for gas so that he wouldn't be stranded on the highway. ABOUT THE AUTHOR Arthur Bloom is editor of The American Conservative online. He was previously deputy editor of the Daily Caller and a columnist for the Catholic Herald. He holds masters degrees in urban planning and American studies from the University of Kansas. His work has appeared in The Washington Post, The Washington Times, The Spectator (UK), The Guardian, Quillette, The American Spectator , Modern Age, and Tiny Mix Tapes. email

[Nov 04, 2020] Surely CNN realize their side have already won?

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Zanon , Nov 4 2020 17:06 utc | 262

Funny thing on CNN site past hours, their headline claims there is a tight race and they still have Biden at 224 and Trump 213 electoral votes, funny since Fox have Biden at 238 which they have had for like 5 hours already.
https://edition.cnn.com/
Surely CNN realize their side have already won?

[Nov 04, 2020] Celebrities who did not leave the USA after 2016 now can safely return

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Mao , Nov 4 2020 0:35 utc | 117

Celebrities who said they'd leave America in 2016 if Trump was elected -- and didn't
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/celebs-who-said-theyd-leave-america-in-2016-if-trump-elected-didnt

[Nov 04, 2020] Russians back Biden, Madcow goes berserk.

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uncle tungsten , Nov 4 2020 7:39 utc | 205

Russians back Biden, Madcow goes berserk.

You just can't trust those cunning Russkies. They fake their Trump support thingy in 2016 just so they can get Biden and Harris in for 2020. They had this planned all along and the USA deep state are planted with Russian commies. Podesta must have known this all along.

[Nov 04, 2020] A US Guaid is needed, then the MSM can tell the world that over fifty countries call him president

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Paco , Nov 3 2020 21:38 utc | 79

High time to send observers, otherwise the international community shall not recognize the legitimacy of the results.... A US Guaidó is needed, then the MSM can tell the world that over fifty countries call him president,


Anunnaki , Nov 3 2020 21:56 utc | 89

15 Reasons Trump wins. And I saw that as a Kanye voter

1. Karentocracy
2. Blue Lives Matter
3. Burn, Loot, Murder
4. Pudding brain Biden
5. Kamala Harris
6. Gun sales
7. Green New Deal
8. Suburban security Moms
9. Huntergate
10. Second Debate: Lockdowns, kids in cages, anti fracking
11. Millennial no shows in early voting
12. Lopsided Get Out the Vote game ground
13. Early vote parity instead of massive Dem lead
14. 20/40 - 20% black votes, 40% Hispanic votes for Trump
15. Trump hustles, while Biden hides - effort matters

Jackrabbit , Nov 3 2020 23:12 utc | 99

A Weird Election

"Weird" is a feature, not a bug.

The exceptional asshats always put on a good show for the sheeple.

!!

Parabolic , Nov 4 2020 7:42 utc | 206

I'm sorry for the over schadenfreude, but the US Deep State color revolutionalising America would be hilariously ironic to us on the outside.

[Nov 04, 2020] Trump is different and Biden is not

Nov 04, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Piotr Berman , Nov 3 2020 19:31 utc | 40

Reminds me a Colombian( ?) movie I watched in my youth, with one memorable side theme. A side character runs for the Senate in his country, as can be seen from the billboards with his visage and slogan "Onofre e differente".

Campaigning is exhausting, so our candidate relaxes in the company of a professional provider of relaxing services. He asks her "What do people say about me?" "That you are worse than others." "Why?" "Because you are different." That is what you get when you do not use professional political analysts. In this vein, Trump is different and Biden is not.

[Nov 04, 2020] The Democratic gamble of fielding, for the second time running, the only candidate who could lose to Donald Trump has clearly succeeded, no matter what will happen next

Nov 04, 2020 | www.rt.com

Centrism is not the winning hand against right-wing populism, something parties in Europe had better learn fast. In this case, the donkeys in America already knew that, but decided to test Einstein's law to destruction. Trying the same thing over again and expecting a different result is indeed a definition of madness.

All of the above is true, whatever the final result of the imbroglio.

Trump's brazen press conference in which he simultaneously claimed victory and fraud was exactly what a right-wing populist would do. And perfectly timed – he was well ahead in the Midwest rust-belt when inexplicable abandonment of counting for the night was the optimal moment to cry-foul. Trump might be a moron, but he certainly ain't stupid.

[Nov 04, 2020] America After The Election- A Few Hard Truths About The Things That Won't Change by John Whitehead

Nov 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

- George Orwell

The American people remain eager to be persuaded that a new president in the White House can solve the problems that plague us.

Yet no matter who wins this presidential election, you can rest assured that the new boss will be the same as the old boss, and we -- the permanent underclass in America -- will continue to be forced to march in lockstep with the police state in all matters, public and private.

Indeed, it really doesn't matter what you call them -- the Deep State, the 1%, the elite, the controllers, the masterminds, the shadow government, the police state, the surveillance state, the military industrial complex -- so long as you understand that no matter which party occupies the White House in 2021, the unelected bureaucracy that actually calls the shots will continue to do so.

In the interest of liberty and truth, here are a few hard truths about life in the American police state that will persist no matter who wins the 2020 presidential election. Indeed, these issues persisted -- and in many cases flourished -- under both Republican and Democratic administrations in recent years.

Police militarization will continue . Thanks to federal grant programs allowing the Pentagon to transfer surplus military supplies and weapons to local law enforcement agencies without charge, police forces will continue to be transformed from peace officers to heavily armed extensions of the military, complete with jackboots, helmets, shields, batons, pepper-spray, stun guns, assault rifles, body armor, miniature tanks and weaponized drones. "Today, 17,000 local police forces are equipped with such military equipment as Blackhawk helicopters, machine guns, grenade launchers, battering rams, explosives, chemical sprays, body armor, night vision, rappelling gear and armored vehicles ," stated Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury. "Some have tanks."

Overcriminalization will continue. In the face of a government bureaucracy consumed with churning out laws, statutes, codes and regulations that reinforce its powers and value systems and those of the police state and its corporate allies, we will all continue to be viewed as petty criminals, guilty of violating some minor law. Thanks to an overabundance of 4,500-plus federal crimes and 400,000-plus rules and regulations, it is estimated that the average American actually commits three felonies a day without knowing it. In fact, according to law professor John Baker, " There is no one in the United States over the age of 18 who cannot be indicted for some federal crime ." Consequently, we now find ourselves operating in a strange new world where small farmers who dare to make unpasteurized goat cheese and share it with members of their community are finding their farms raided, while home gardeners face jail time for daring to cultivate their own varieties of orchids without having completed sufficient paperwork. This frightening state of affairs -- where a person can actually be arrested and incarcerated for the most innocent and inane activities, including feeding a whale and collecting rainwater on their own property -- is due to what law scholars refer to as overcriminalization.

Jailing Americans for profit will continue. At one time, the American penal system operated under the idea that dangerous criminals needed to be put under lock and key in order to protect society. Today, as states attempt to save money by outsourcing prisons to private corporations, imprisoning Americans in private prisons run by mega-corporations has turned into a cash cow for big business. In exchange for corporations buying and managing public prisons across the country at a supposed savings to the states, the states have to agree to maintain a 90% occupancy rate in the privately run prisons for at least 20 years. Such a scheme simply encourages incarceration for the sake of profits, while causing millions of Americans, most of them minor, nonviolent criminals, to be handed over to corporations for lengthy prison sentences which do nothing to protect society or prevent recidivism. Thus, although the number of violent crimes in the country is down substantially , the number of Americans being jailed for nonviolent crimes such as driving with a suspended license is skyrocketing .

Poverty will continue. Despite the fact that we have 46 million Americans living at or below the poverty line , 16 million children living in households without adequate access to f ood, and at least 900,000 veterans relying on food stamps (mind you, these are pre-COVID numbers, which have only got worse during this pandemic), enormous sums continue to be doled out for presidential excursions (taxpayers have been forced to pay at least $100 million so that Donald Trump could visit his golf clubs and private properties more than 500 times during his four years in office).

Endless wars that enrich the military industrial complex will continue. Having been co-opted by greedy defense contractors, corrupt politicians and incompetent government officials, America's expanding military empire is bleeding the country dry at a rate of more than $15 billion a month (or $20 million an hour) -- and that's just what the government spends on foreign wars. That does not include the cost of maintaining and staffing the 1000-plus U.S. military bases spread around the globe. Incredibly, although the U.S. constitutes only 5% of the world's population, America boasts almost 50% of the world's total military expenditure, spending more on the military than the next 19 biggest spending nations combined. In fact, the Pentagon spends more on war than all 50 states combined spend on health, education, welfare, and safety. Yet what most Americans fail to recognize is that these ongoing wars have little to do with keeping the country safe and everything to do with enriching the military industrial complex at taxpayer expense. Consider that since 2001, Americans have spent $10.5 million every hour for numerous foreign military occupations, including in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Police shootings of unarmed Americans will continue. No matter what our party politics, race, religion, or any other distinction used to divide us, we all suffer when violence becomes the government's calling card. Remember, in a police state, you're either the one with your hand on the trigger or you're staring down the barrel of a loaded gun. At least 400 to 500 innocent people are killed by police officers every year. Indeed, Americans are now eight times more likely to die in a police confrontation than they are to be killed by a terrorist. Americans are 110 times more likely to die of foodborne illness than in a terrorist attack. Police officers are more likely to be struck by lightning than be made financially liable for their wrongdoing. As a result, Americans are largely powerless in the face of militarized police.

SWAT team raids will continue. More than 80,000 SWAT team raids are carried out every year on unsuspecting Americans for relatively routine police matters. Nationwide, SWAT teams have been employed to address an astonishingly trivial array of criminal activity or mere community nuisances including angry dogs, domestic disputes, improper paperwork filed by an orchid farmer, and misdemeanor marijuana possession, to give a brief sampling. On an average day in America, over 100 Americans have their homes raide d by SWAT teams. There has been a notable buildup in recent years of SWAT teams within non-security-related federal agencies such as the Department of Agriculture, the Railroad Retirement Board, the Tennessee Valley Authority, the Office of Personnel Management, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the Education Department.

The government's war on the American people will continue. "We the people" are no longer shielded by the rule of law. While the First Amendment -- which gives us a voice -- is being muzzled, the Fourth Amendment -- which protects us from being bullied, badgered, beaten, broken and spied on by government agents -- is being disemboweled. Consequently, you no longer have to be poor, black or guilty to be treated like a criminal in America. All that is required is that you belong to the suspect class -- that is, the citizenry -- of the American police state. As a de facto member of this so-called criminal class, every U.S. citizen is now guilty until proven innocent. The oppression and injustice -- be it in the form of shootings, surveillance, fines, asset forfeiture, prison terms, roadside searches, and so on -- will come to all of us eventually unless we do something to stop it now.

Government corruption will continue. The government is not our friend. Nor does it work for "we the people." Americans instinctively understand this. When asked to name the greatest problem facing the nation, Americans of all political stripes ranked the government as the number one concern . In fact, almost eight out of ten Americans believe that government corruption is widespread . Our so-called government representatives do not actually represent us, the citizenry. We are now ruled by an oligarchic elite of governmental and corporate interests whose main interest is in perpetuating power and control. Congress is dominated by a majority of millionaires who are, on average, fourteen times wealthier than the average American.

The rise of the surveillance state will continue. Government eyes are watching you. They see your every move: what you read, how much you spend, where you go, with whom you interact, when you wake up in the morning, what you're watching on television and reading on the internet. Every move you make is being monitored, mined for data, crunched, and tabulated in order to form a picture of who you are, what makes you tick, and how best to control you when and if it becomes necessary to bring you in line. Police have been outfitted with a litany of surveillance gear, from license plate readers and cell phone tracking devices to biometric data recorders. Technology now makes it possible for the police to scan passersby in order to detect the contents of their pockets, purses, briefcases, etc. Full-body scanners, which perform virtual strip-searches of Americans traveling by plane, have gone mobile, with roving police vans that peer into vehicles and buildings alike -- including homes. Coupled with the nation's growing network of real-time surveillance cameras and facial recognition software, soon there really will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.

The erection of a suspect society will continue. Due in large part to rapid advances in technology and a heightened surveillance culture, the burden of proof has been shifted so that the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty has been usurped by a new norm in which all citizens are suspects. This is exemplified by police practices of stopping and frisking people who are merely walking down the street and where there is no evidence of wrongdoing. Making matters worse are Terrorism Liaison Officers (firefighters, police officers, and even corporate employees) who have been trained to spy on their fellow citizens and report "suspicious activity," which includes taking pictures with no apparent aesthetic value, making measurements and drawings, taking notes, conversing in code, espousing radical beliefs and buying items in bulk. TLOs report back to "fusion centers," which are a driving force behind the government's quest to collect, analyze, and disseminate information on American citizens.

Government tyranny under the reign of an Imperial President will continue. The Constitution invests the President with very specific, limited powers: to serve as Commander in Chief of the military, grant pardons, make treaties (with the approval of Congress), appoint ambassadors and federal judges (again with Congress' blessing), and veto legislation. In recent years, however, American presidents have anointed themselves with the power to wage war, unilaterally kill Americans, torture prisoners, strip citizens of their rights, arrest and detain citizens indefinitely, carry out warrantless spying on Americans, and erect their own secretive, shadow government. The powers amassed by each past president and inherited by each successive president -- powers which add up to a toolbox of terror for an imperial ruler -- empower whomever occupies the Oval Office to act as a dictator, above the law and beyond any real accountability. The grim reality we must come to terms with is the fact that the government does whatever it wants, freedom be damned. More than terrorism, more than domestic extremism, more than gun violence and organized crime, the U.S. government has become a greater menace to the life, liberty and property of its citizens than any of the so-called dangers from which the government claims to protect us. This state of affairs has become the status quo, no matter which party is in power.

The government's manipulation of national crises in order to expand its powers will continue. "We the people" have been the subjected to an "emergency state" that justifies all manner of government tyranny and power grabs in the so-called name of national security. Whatever the so-called threat to the nation -- whether it's civil unrest, school shootings, alleged acts of terrorism, or the threat of a global pandemic in the case of COVID-19 -- the government has a tendency to capitalize on the nation's heightened emotions, confusion and fear as a means of extending the reach of the police state. Indeed, the government's answer to every problem continues to be more government -- at taxpayer expense -- and less individual liberty.

The bottom line is this: nothing taking place on Election Day will alleviate the suffering of the American people. Unless we do something more than vote, the government as we have come to know it -- corrupt, bloated and controlled by big-money corporations, lobbyists and special interest groups -- will remain unchanged. And "we the people" -- overtaxed, overpoliced, overburdened by big government, underrepresented by those who should speak for us and blissfully ignorant of the prison walls closing in on us -- will continue to trudge along a path of misery.

As I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People , these problems will continue to plague our nation unless and until Americans wake up to the fact that we're the only ones who can change things for the better and then do something about it. If there is to be any hope of restoring our freedoms and reclaiming control over our government, it will rest not with the politicians but with the people themselves.

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There is no government without us -- our sheer numbers, our muscle, our economy, our physical presence in this land. There can also be no police state -- no tyranny -- no routine violations of our rights without our complicity and collusion -- without our turning a blind eye, shrugging our shoulders, allowing ourselves to be distracted and our civic awareness diluted.

No matter which candidate wins this election, the citizenry and those who represent us need to be held accountable to this powerful truth.

[Nov 04, 2020] Chris Hedges and Matt Taibbi- Media as propaganda and censorship bureau- The Jewish angle by Kevin MacDonald

Nov 04, 2020 | www.unz.com

KEVIN MACDONALD NOVEMBER 1, 2020 2,200 WORDS 20 COMMENTS REPLY

The podcast, which you can view at the bottom of this article, is interesting for several reasons. Chris Hedges and Matt Taibbi are both what would, until very recently, be considered mainstream journalists. Now they see themselves on the outside of a monolithic system where information has been completely politicized to the point of it being, in Taibbi's words, "a one-party media environment." I rather doubt that either of them are Trump supporters, but they realize that if Trump loses, things will get even worse. Self-censorship, which is undoubtedly already high, will increase as lines that cannot be crossed without ending one's career touch on ever more subjects. They compare the situation to the Soviet Union where everyone knew that the official media could not be trusted, but underground Samizdat documents were treasured. I can't help thinking we are already there in the sense that people like me are forced to turn to podcasts and websites that are well outside the mainstream, in a situation of constant deplatforming by financial companies and media companies like YouTube.

Taibbi notes that there was a sea change after the 2016 election where basically organizations like the NYTimes had a "come to Jesus" moment" when they asked themselves how could we let this happen and decided to become overtly political, throwing a sop to conservatives by hiring someone like neocon Bret Stephens to appease conservatives while at the same time promoting the Trump-Russia collusion hoax and ginning up the White guilt narrative with the 1619 Project, while completely suppressing the Hunter Biden-Joe Biden scandal, the evidence for which, in my opinion, is overwhelming. At the same time they ignored the real reasons why Trump won -- Taibbi mentions neoliberal economics (implying replacement-level immigration and outsourcing American jobs) and economically struggling and poor Americans. But left unmentioned is the feeling of unease by a broad swathe of White Americans that their country is being taken away from them and that it's increasingly unrecognizable from the country they grew up in. Unmentioned also is that a great many Whites are feeling racially dispossessed by the replacement-level immigration that has occurred, and they are increasingly aware that they are hated by our liberal-left hostile elite.

As they note, the problem is that when you suppress what is really going on and the reasons for it, you are left with increasingly unconvincing narratives -- as happened in the USSR. And in the US, where there is still a large segment of the White population that has not trusted the liberal media for decades, mainly because of mainstream conservative media figures like Rush Limbaugh, what is happening before our eyes is radical polarization. The possibility of civil war is discussed -- a possibility mentioned several times on this site . Civil war seems reasonably likely if Trump wins. One can imagine antifa-BLM violence far beyond anything seen thus far breaking out in all major urban areas, and it would inevitably require a major military force to bring it under control. And if he loses, there will deep anger among Trump supporters. Unlike the left, the right has not shown much of an appetite for violence lately, but that could change. We have already seen armed White men standing up against antifa-BLM protesters who were bussed in to their communities. For many such White men, free speech may not be their #1 priority, but having guns is very important and would loom large in the context of a far left government influenced by the likes of Kamala Harris (who has already said she would issue an executive order on gun ownership if Congress fails to act). It seems likely that Biden would be similarly prone to such actions.

Undiscussed by Hedges and Taibbi is the very prominent role of Jews in all this. Throughout the 2016 campaign and beyond there have been intense denunciation s in the Jewish media and the mainstream media (but I repeat myself) comparing Trump to Hitler, promoting impeachment, etc. The apocalyptic response to Trump's election went far beyond the New York Times . And, while acknowledging that a minority of Jews supported Trump and still do, Jewish power in terms of media ownership and production is also a critical aspect. Journalism is like the academic world in that it is a top-down system where the elite media play an outsized role. In academia, Harvard professors train graduate students who get positions at UC-Berkeley, who then get graduate students who staff lower-level state colleges, who then train K-12 teachers. In the media, the New York Times , Jewish-owned for over a century, is the Harvard of the media food chain, and other outlets, from WaPo, the LATimes and NPR to CNN and MSNBC -- all with large Jewish ownership and/or staffing, take the Times' lead. In effect this media behemoth ends up speaking with one voice. And in the internet age, this one voice has been amplified considerably by the dominant social media companies -- again with large Jewish ownership and staffing, and all of which have slanted searches or censored posts that they view as contrary to their liberal-left political agenda. The suppression of the New York Post story by Twitter is Exhibit A. And again, we on the dissident right have been dealing with this for years. It's obvious that another Trump victory would be seen in apocalyptic terms by the liberal-left media.

Also unmentioned is the role of the ADL in pressuring media companies to censor speech they don't like. This has been going on for decades but quite obviously is reaching fruition now. I wrote this in 2002 ( Preface to the paperback edition of Culture of Critique, lvii:

In CofC (Ch. 8) I wrote, 'one may expect that as ethnic conflict continues to escalate in the United States, increasingly desperate attempts will be made to prop up the ideology of multiculturalism with the erection of police state controls on nonconforming thought and behavior.' As noted above, there has been a shift from 'the culture of critique' to what one might term 'the culture of the Holocaust' as Jews have moved from outsiders to the consummate insiders in American life. Coinciding with their status as an established elite, Jewish organizations are now in the forefront of movements to censor thought crimes. 40

The Internet is a major gap in control of the major media, but Jewish organizations have taken the lead in attempting to censor the Internet. The Simon Wiesenthal Center (SWC) distributes a compact disc titled ' Digital Hate 2001 ' that lists over 3000 'hate sites on the Internet.' Both the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the ADL have attempted to pressure Internet service providers (ISP's) like AOL and popular websites like Yahoo into restricting subscriber access to disapproved websites. Recently Yahoo removed 39 Internet clubs originally identified as 'hate sites' by the SWC. 41 Internet auction sites have been subjected to protests for selling Nazi memorabilia. 42 Amazon.com and Barnesandnoble.com have come under fire for selling Hitler's Mein Kampf . The ADL also published a report, Poisoning the Web: Hatred Online , and has urged the U.S. Congress to initiate a 'comprehensive study of the magnitude and impact of hate on the Internet.' 43

Online services in the U.S. are also under pressure from foreign governments, including France, Germany, Austria, and Canada, where there are no constitutional guarantees of free speech. For example, a judge in France ruled that Yahoo was violating French law by delivering Nazi memorabilia to people in France via the company's online auctions, even though the service is based in the United States. Yahoo was acting illegally, the judge said, even though the company has created a separate French site that, unlike the broader Yahoo service, follows French law. The company was ordered to use filtering technology to block politically sensitive material from appearing on computers in France or face fines equivalent to $13,000 a day. In Germany, a court found that German law applies even to foreigners who post content on the Web in other countries -- so long as that content can be accessed by people inside Germany. In this case, the court ruled that an Australian citizen who posted Holocaust revisionist material on his Australian website could be jailed in Germany. Theoretically it would be possible for Germany to demand that this person be extradited from Australia so that he could stand trial for his crime.

Jewish organizations have been strong advocates of laws in European countries that criminalize the distribution of anti-Jewish material. For example, the ADL pressured the German government to arrest a U.S. citizen who distributed anti-Jewish materials. Gary Lauck was arrested in Denmark and extradited to Germany on the warrant of a Hamburg prosecutor. He was sentenced to four years in jail, served his sentence, and was deported.

This sort of government-imposed censorship is effective in countries like France and Germany, but is not likely to succeed in the United States with its strong tradition of constitutionally protected free speech. As a result, the major focus of the Jewish effort to censor the Internet in the United States has been to pressure private companies like AOL and Yahoo to use software that blocks access to sites that are disapproved by Jewish organizations. The ADL developed voluntary filter software ( ADL HateFilter ) that allows users to screen out certain websites. However, while AOL -- the largest ISP by far -- has proved to be compliant in setting standards in line with ADL guidelines, the ADL notes that other ISP's, such as Earthlink, have not cooperated with the ADL, and independent web hosting sites have sprung up to serve websites rejected by AOL.

The ADL and the SWC have an uphill road because the Internet has long been touted as a haven for free speech by the high-tech community. One senses a certain frustration in the conclusion of a recent ADL report on the Internet:

Combating online extremism presents enormous technological and legal difficulties . Even if it were electronically feasible to keep sites off the Internet, the international nature of the medium makes legal regulation virtually impossible. And in the United States, the First Amendment guarantees the right of freedom of speech regardless of what form that speech takes. As a result, governments, corporations and people of goodwill continue to look for alternative ways to address the problem.

Clearly Jewish organizations are making every effort to censor anti-Jewish writing on the Internet. They are far from reaching their goal of removing anti-Jewish material from the Internet, but in the long run the very high political stakes involved ensure that great effort will be expended. I suspect that in the U.S., if pressuring existing ISP's by organizations like the ADL and the SWC fails, these companies may become targets of buyouts by Jewish-owned media companies who will then quietly remove access to anti-Jewish websites. AOL has just recently merged with Time Warner, a Jewish-controlled media company, and it had already merged with Compuserve, a large, nationwide ISP. As indicated above, AOL-Time Warner has complied with pressures exerted by Jewish activist organizations to restrict expressions of political opinion on the Internet.

I suppose that the only option for prohibited websites will be to develop their own Internet service providers. These providers -- perhaps subsidized or relatively expensive -- would then fill the niche of serving people who are already committed to ethnic activism among non-Jewish Europeans and other forms of politically incorrect expression. The situation would be similar to the current situation in the broadcast and print media. All of the mainstream media are effectively censored, but small publications that essentially preach to the converted can exist if not flourish.

But such publications reach a miniscule percentage of the population. They are basically ignored by the mainstream media, and they mainly preach to the choir. The same will likely happen to the Internet: The sites will still be there [Update: or maybe not if the left gets rid of the First Amendment], but they will be out of sight and out of mind for the vast majority of Internet users. The effective censorship of the Internet by large corporations does not violate the First Amendment because the government is not involved and any policy can be justified as a business decision not to offend existing or potential customers.

This was updated and expanded in 2009 , and I note there that free speech was never a value of traditional Jewish communities. This then ties in with the discussion of Hedges and Taibbi on the parallels between the current situation in the U.S (and the rest of the West) with communism which definitely does not support free speech. Until communism in the USSR conflicted with Jewish interests (i.e., after World War II and especially in the 1970s due to Soviet support for Arab countries as well as discrimination against Jews in employment), Jews were quite comfortable with communism and indeed, were the backbone of communism in the United States through the 1960s. For example, Jews were the primary targets of Joe McCarthy simply because so many communists were Jews. (McCarthy did all he could to deflect charges of anti-Semitism by, e.g., hiring Roy Cohn.) The result was that Jewish organizations reluctantly and with substantial pushback ridded the mainstream Jewish community of communist-affiliated organizations.

Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KONeb8mRPYI?feature=oembed


Verymuchalive , says: November 2, 2020 at 12:19 pm GMT • 1.9 days ago

Another prescient piece from Dr MacDonald. Excellent.
But the question I've always wanted to ask concerns this.

Undiscussed by Hedges and Taibbi is the very prominent role of Jews in all this. Throughout the 2016 campaign and beyond there have been intense denunciation s in the Jewish media and the mainstream media (but I repeat myself) comparing Trump to Hitler, promoting impeachment, etc.

Trump's paternal grandfather and grandmother were German immigrants. Considering the number of"Trump is literally Hitler " attacks by the MSM, why have there been no attempts ( correct me if I'm wrong ) to start digging into the German half of his ancestry? So far, no mention of relatives, no matter how remote, who were gauleiters, SS members, prison camp guards etc. Surely, if you are involved in a reductio ad Hitlerum operation, this would be your logical next step.
Does Trump have a completely "clean bill of health" ? Or is there some other reason ?

Big Daddy , says: November 2, 2020 at 12:38 pm GMT • 1.9 days ago

If Trump wins hit 'em where it hurts. Obviously if Trump is real he cancels ALL government contracts with social media and Big TV that he can and promotes Alt media. Let's see if he is real.

This is in concert with arrest and trial for treason of the Bidens, Fauci, Brennan, various FBI and CIA bums, and others.

Mark Matis , says: November 2, 2020 at 1:04 pm GMT • 1.9 days ago

The tribe yearns for the "good old days" of their Messiahs – Lenin and Stalin – who they helped murder FIFTY MILLION across Russia and Eastern Europe. But those do not count, since they were mostly only Goyim!!!!!!!

What else would anyone expect from that filthy lying sewage?????????????????????

paranoid goy , says: Website November 2, 2020 at 1:27 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago
@Verymuchalive

Trump, pronounced like "Troombp" is apparently a proud old Jewish family, my German connections tell me. I ain't no gaeneologist, don't really care, but I felt your very succinct point deserves at least a guess.

SteveK9 , says: November 2, 2020 at 2:36 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago

Matt and Chris are both on the left side of the political spectrum. They are not lunatics of course. It would be more interesting to hear either one of them talk to someone on the right side of the spectrum, who is also not a lunatic, instead of talking to each other. I notice not once did they mention that this monolith of the tech media, is on the left that was 'left' unsaid. And, I think it is because of the moderate level of bias they have. Have Matt be interviewed by Mike Cernovich or someone like that and I think it would be a lot more interesting, for both sides.

RoatanBill , says: November 2, 2020 at 2:36 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago
@Big Daddy

I believe the test should be to bankrupt the major media networks via trials for treasonous behavior. Every current news network needs to be gotten rid of. Their stock should go to $0 and hurt the people that have been profiting from their one sided reporting.

The social media organizations like Facebook and Twitter are gov't intel operations IMO. They should be destroyed along with the intel agencies that are just fronts for their version of organized crime (drug running, assassinations, weapons trafficking, blackmail, human trafficking, etc).

No , says: November 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago
@Verymuchalive

The Hitler canard is only useful if it remains shrouded in disinformation and fake history. Bringing attention to the historical particulars might lead to an understanding of the Weimar.

Wyatt , says: November 2, 2020 at 5:47 pm GMT • 1.7 days ago
@No

Considering how the antifascists are killing people and destroying livelihoods at a record pace in the name of fighting fascism, it behooves one to ask more about the actual fascists and what they did or did not do.

I imagine there will be many long-noses in both the present and the past.

David Bauer , says: November 2, 2020 at 7:15 pm GMT • 1.6 days ago

Another excellent essay by Professor MacDonald. It strikes me as ironic that Hedges and Taibbi now find themselves in this predicament. My sympathy is limited, not only because both of them (as Prof. Macdonald notes) are unwilling to discuss the role of Jewish power in the accelerating censorship, but also because both are long-time 9/11 truth deniers and both are obviously intelligent enough to know better. Taibbi in particular has for years gone out of his way to demean, insult, and marginalize 9/11 truth advocates, including Dr. David Ray Griffin. I have always suspected that Hedges and Taibbi publicly accepted the official story of 9/11 only in order to retain some mainstream credibility and remain "players" in the public area. If so, it was entirely in vain, as they themselves have now been exiled.

Tom Verso , says: November 2, 2020 at 8:13 pm GMT • 1.6 days ago

DEEP MEDIA

the real power of media to inculcate the masses with an ideology and in turn control the behavior of the masses.

The phase and concept "Deep State" has become rather commonplace in political discussion of late; i.e. a hidden government within the legitimately elected government which holds and executes the real power of government .

What MacDonald alludes to is what might be called "Deep Media".

This is to say: a hidden media power within the establishment media organization, that holds and executes the real power of media to inculcate the masses with an ideology and in turn controls the behavior of the masses.

This DEEP MEDIA is never discussed by analysts of, and commenters about, THE MEDIA.

For example, recently I noted, in the comment section of a media discussion between Steve Sailor and James Kirkpatrick, that they commit the anthropomorphic fallacy (i.e. "attribute human emotions and characteristics to inanimate objects " ).

Specifically, they discuss the inanimate object MEDIA in the THIRD PERSON, as in "THE MEDIA does this and THE MEDIA does that". As though THE MEDIA is an animated independent thinking and acting object.

Similar, Chris Hedges and Matt Taibbi follow suit.

Like Sailor and Kirkpatrick, they talk about THE MEDIA as though it is living thinking independently acting entity . At best the only human beings that they mention are 'clock-punching' reporters or editors doing the job for which that they are hired and paid.

Completely absent from the Taibbi et al "analysis" is any discussion of the mega billionaire owners of THE MEDIA and how they dictate what will be printed and broadcasted.

Taibbi et al never mention the fact:
All that THE MEDIA prints and broadcasts is what servers the IDEOLOGICAL interest of the mega billionaire owners of THE MEDIA.

Emphasis on IDEOLOGICAL !

The richest man in the world, Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post with his walk around pocket money. Its annual gross income is to small to show up as a separate entity on his income statements; filed under Miscellaneous.

In short, Bezos et al do not buy THE MEDIA for profits. They buy THE MEDIA for ideological domination.

Accordingly, the very small clique of billionaire owners of the media are
the DEEP MEDIA that ultimate determines what the 'great unwashed', as it were, masses read, hear and see.

Thereby controlling the behavior of the masses having been indoctrinated into the billionaire ideological belief system.

Ideology determines behavior.
Media determines ideology
He who controls the media controls the ideology
He who controls the ideology controls the society.

Thus the most important sociological question one can ask:
Who, what person(s), controls THE MEDIA?

Kevin MacDonald cogently points out:

" media outlets , from WaPo, the LATimes and NPR to CNN and MSNBC -- a ll with large Jewish ownership and/or staffing,"

As a result the media, ergo ideological domination, is largely controlled by Jews.
The thought of criticizing Jews is so profoundly negative in our society that Taibbi et al would, never think of, let alone put into words, any criticism of Jews.

Accordingly, they ramble on anthropomorphically about THE MEDIA. With nary a thought or word about the DEEP MEDIA owners of THE MEDIA.

[Note: Taibbi cohosts a podcast with a lady who I heard refer to her holocaust heritage. The same lady has her own independent podcast. How can he possible make any negative reference to Jewish domination of THE MEDIA.]

conatus , says: November 2, 2020 at 9:10 pm GMT • 1.5 days ago

Jewish 'Political Influence' might also include the large percent of funds they contribute to our political class, who, as a result are very attentive to Jewish political concerns such as Israel or say, defeating an anti immigration Representative for reelection. Two percent of the population but 60% of the funding seems like quite a lot of influence.
Steve Sailer has made the point that Jews buy politicians while wealthy billionaire Goyim buy football and basketball stadiums.
There is a reason that 2% of the country wields such over large influence.

Wikipedia . Israel lobby(from a few years ago)
"In 2006, 60% of the Democratic Party's fundraising and 25% of that for the Republican Party's fundraising came from Jewish-funded Political Action Committees. Democratic presidential candidates depend on Jewish sources for 60% of money from private sources.[49]"Also Mearsheimer and Walt, Israel Lobby, p.163
"Despite their small numbers in the population(less than 3 per cent), American Jews make large campaign donations to candidates from both parties"
footnote 55 "
Indeed the Washington Post once estimated that Democratic presidential candidates"depend on Jewish supporters to supply as much as 60 percent of the money raised from private sources" footnote 56

Maria , says: November 2, 2020 at 11:21 pm GMT • 1.4 days ago

Very interesting discussion.

Matt, you have another angle to pursue. I cannot believe how young you look. You look eternally 30 years old.

Maybe write a book on how you manage to look 30 instead of 50 years old

At least you would be super busy and make money.

Your e-book would go viral. You have an unlimited market.

Richard B , says: November 3, 2020 at 2:34 am GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Tom Verso bia, xenophobia, White Privilege, White Supremacy, etc.

In short, we can ask them, What are you talking about? But, of course, we can't. And why can't we? Because if we did we would expose their intellectual corruption and reduce their entire explanatory system to rubble.

And that's no small thing. Since explanations are used to control behavior. So, without their explanations they'd be naked, two-forked animals lost in a chaos of their own making. That's why the only meas of survival is force, verbal or non-verbal.

We simply have to determine whether or not we are going to continue to allow their explanations to control our behavior. In the end, that's what it all boils down to. Because that's all there is.

Verymuchalive , says: November 2, 2020 at 12:19 pm GMT • 1.9 days ago

Another prescient piece from Dr MacDonald. Excellent.
But the question I've always wanted to ask concerns this.

Undiscussed by Hedges and Taibbi is the very prominent role of Jews in all this. Throughout the 2016 campaign and beyond there have been intense denunciation s in the Jewish media and the mainstream media (but I repeat myself) comparing Trump to Hitler, promoting impeachment, etc.

Trump's paternal grandfather and grandmother were German immigrants. Considering the number of"Trump is literally Hitler " attacks by the MSM, why have there been no attempts ( correct me if I'm wrong ) to start digging into the German half of his ancestry? So far, no mention of relatives, no matter how remote, who were gauleiters, SS members, prison camp guards etc. Surely, if you are involved in a reductio ad Hitlerum operation, this would be your logical next step.
Does Trump have a completely "clean bill of health" ? Or is there some other reason ?

Big Daddy , says: November 2, 2020 at 12:38 pm GMT • 1.9 days ago

If Trump wins hit 'em where it hurts. Obviously if Trump is real he cancels ALL government contracts with social media and Big TV that he can and promotes Alt media. Let's see if he is real.

This is in concert with arrest and trial for treason of the Bidens, Fauci, Brennan, various FBI and CIA bums, and others.

Mark Matis , says: November 2, 2020 at 1:04 pm GMT • 1.9 days ago

The tribe yearns for the "good old days" of their Messiahs – Lenin and Stalin – who they helped murder FIFTY MILLION across Russia and Eastern Europe. But those do not count, since they were mostly only Goyim!!!!!!!

What else would anyone expect from that filthy lying sewage?????????????????????

paranoid goy , says: Website November 2, 2020 at 1:27 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago
@Verymuchalive

Trump, pronounced like "Troombp" is apparently a proud old Jewish family, my German connections tell me. I ain't no gaeneologist, don't really care, but I felt your very succinct point deserves at least a guess.

SteveK9 , says: November 2, 2020 at 2:36 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago

Matt and Chris are both on the left side of the political spectrum. They are not lunatics of course. It would be more interesting to hear either one of them talk to someone on the right side of the spectrum, who is also not a lunatic, instead of talking to each other. I notice not once did they mention that this monolith of the tech media, is on the left that was 'left' unsaid. And, I think it is because of the moderate level of bias they have. Have Matt be interviewed by Mike Cernovich or someone like that and I think it would be a lot more interesting, for both sides.

RoatanBill , says: November 2, 2020 at 2:36 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago
@Big Daddy

I believe the test should be to bankrupt the major media networks via trials for treasonous behavior. Every current news network needs to be gotten rid of. Their stock should go to $0 and hurt the people that have been profiting from their one sided reporting.

The social media organizations like Facebook and Twitter are gov't intel operations IMO. They should be destroyed along with the intel agencies that are just fronts for their version of organized crime (drug running, assassinations, weapons trafficking, blackmail, human trafficking, etc).

No , says: November 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago
@Verymuchalive

The Hitler canard is only useful if it remains shrouded in disinformation and fake history. Bringing attention to the historical particulars might lead to an understanding of the Weimar.

Wyatt , says: November 2, 2020 at 5:47 pm GMT • 1.7 days ago
@No

Considering how the antifascists are killing people and destroying livelihoods at a record pace in the name of fighting fascism, it behooves one to ask more about the actual fascists and what they did or did not do.

I imagine there will be many long-noses in both the present and the past.

David Bauer , says: November 2, 2020 at 7:15 pm GMT • 1.6 days ago

Another excellent essay by Professor MacDonald. It strikes me as ironic that Hedges and Taibbi now find themselves in this predicament. My sympathy is limited, not only because both of them (as Prof. Macdonald notes) are unwilling to discuss the role of Jewish power in the accelerating censorship, but also because both are long-time 9/11 truth deniers and both are obviously intelligent enough to know better. Taibbi in particular has for years gone out of his way to demean, insult, and marginalize 9/11 truth advocates, including Dr. David Ray Griffin. I have always suspected that Hedges and Taibbi publicly accepted the official story of 9/11 only in order to retain some mainstream credibility and remain "players" in the public area. If so, it was entirely in vain, as they themselves have now been exiled.

Tom Verso , says: November 2, 2020 at 8:13 pm GMT • 1.6 days ago

DEEP MEDIA

the real power of media to inculcate the masses with an ideology and in turn control the behavior of the masses.

The phase and concept "Deep State" has become rather commonplace in political discussion of late; i.e. a hidden government within the legitimately elected government which holds and executes the real power of government .

What MacDonald alludes to is what might be called "Deep Media".

This is to say: a hidden media power within the establishment media organization, that holds and executes the real power of media to inculcate the masses with an ideology and in turn controls the behavior of the masses.

This DEEP MEDIA is never discussed by analysts of, and commenters about, THE MEDIA.

For example, recently I noted, in the comment section of a media discussion between Steve Sailor and James Kirkpatrick, that they commit the anthropomorphic fallacy (i.e. "attribute human emotions and characteristics to inanimate objects " ).

Specifically, they discuss the inanimate object MEDIA in the THIRD PERSON, as in "THE MEDIA does this and THE MEDIA does that". As though THE MEDIA is an animated independent thinking and acting object.

Similar, Chris Hedges and Matt Taibbi follow suit.

Like Sailor and Kirkpatrick, they talk about THE MEDIA as though it is living thinking independently acting entity . At best the only human beings that they mention are 'clock-punching' reporters or editors doing the job for which that they are hired and paid.

Completely absent from the Taibbi et al "analysis" is any discussion of the mega billionaire owners of THE MEDIA and how they dictate what will be printed and broadcasted.

Taibbi et al never mention the fact:
All that THE MEDIA prints and broadcasts is what servers the IDEOLOGICAL interest of the mega billionaire owners of THE MEDIA.

Emphasis on IDEOLOGICAL !

The richest man in the world, Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post with his walk around pocket money. Its annual gross income is to small to show up as a separate entity on his income statements; filed under Miscellaneous.

In short, Bezos et al do not buy THE MEDIA for profits. They buy THE MEDIA for ideological domination.

Accordingly, the very small clique of billionaire owners of the media are
the DEEP MEDIA that ultimate determines what the 'great unwashed', as it were, masses read, hear and see.

Thereby controlling the behavior of the masses having been indoctrinated into the billionaire ideological belief system.

Ideology determines behavior.
Media determines ideology
He who controls the media controls the ideology
He who controls the ideology controls the society.

Thus the most important sociological question one can ask:
Who, what person(s), controls THE MEDIA?

Kevin MacDonald cogently points out:

" media outlets , from WaPo, the LATimes and NPR to CNN and MSNBC -- a ll with large Jewish ownership and/or staffing,"

As a result the media, ergo ideological domination, is largely controlled by Jews.
The thought of criticizing Jews is so profoundly negative in our society that Taibbi et al would, never think of, let alone put into words, any criticism of Jews.

Accordingly, they ramble on anthropomorphically about THE MEDIA. With nary a thought or word about the DEEP MEDIA owners of THE MEDIA.

[Note: Taibbi cohosts a podcast with a lady who I heard refer to her holocaust heritage. The same lady has her own independent podcast. How can he possible make any negative reference to Jewish domination of THE MEDIA.]

conatus , says: November 2, 2020 at 9:10 pm GMT • 1.5 days ago

Jewish 'Political Influence' might also include the large percent of funds they contribute to our political class, who, as a result are very attentive to Jewish political concerns such as Israel or say, defeating an anti immigration Representative for reelection. Two percent of the population but 60% of the funding seems like quite a lot of influence.
Steve Sailer has made the point that Jews buy politicians while wealthy billionaire Goyim buy football and basketball stadiums.
There is a reason that 2% of the country wields such over large influence.

Wikipedia . Israel lobby(from a few years ago)
"In 2006, 60% of the Democratic Party's fundraising and 25% of that for the Republican Party's fundraising came from Jewish-funded Political Action Committees. Democratic presidential candidates depend on Jewish sources for 60% of money from private sources.[49]"Also Mearsheimer and Walt, Israel Lobby, p.163
"Despite their small numbers in the population(less than 3 per cent), American Jews make large campaign donations to candidates from both parties"
footnote 55 "
Indeed the Washington Post once estimated that Democratic presidential candidates"depend on Jewish supporters to supply as much as 60 percent of the money raised from private sources" footnote 56

Maria , says: November 2, 2020 at 11:21 pm GMT • 1.4 days ago

Very interesting discussion.

Matt, you have another angle to pursue. I cannot believe how young you look. You look eternally 30 years old.

Maybe write a book on how you manage to look 30 instead of 50 years old

At least you would be super busy and make money.

Your e-book would go viral. You have an unlimited market.

Richard B , says: November 3, 2020 at 2:34 am GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Tom Verso bia, xenophobia, White Privilege, White Supremacy, etc.

In short, we can ask them, What are you talking about? But, of course, we can't. And why can't we? Because if we did we would expose their intellectual corruption and reduce their entire explanatory system to rubble.

And that's no small thing. Since explanations are used to control behavior. So, without their explanations they'd be naked, two-forked animals lost in a chaos of their own making. That's why the only meas of survival is force, verbal or non-verbal.

We simply have to determine whether or not we are going to continue to allow their explanations to control our behavior. In the end, that's what it all boils down to. Because that's all there is.

Priss Factor , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 5:06 am GMT • 1.2 days ago

No mention of Jewish monopoly of media and platforms.

Anonymous [115] Disclaimer , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:04 am GMT • 1.1 days ago

Chris Hedges is a leftist moron at heart and always misses the big points in every beef he has with the U.S.

Verymuchalive , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:48 am GMT • 23.9 hours ago
@David Bauer

I'm in total agreement with you on this one. Left-leaning commentators are now finding out what's been happening to conservative and right-wing commentators for decades. Jared Taylor and his AR website do not mention Jewish power: they're still exiled from main street.
Pretending not to "notice" this and other issues will not save you from cancellation.

Tom Verso , says: November 3, 2020 at 11:06 am GMT • 22.6 hours ago
@Richard B r a thoughtful response.

I disagree with what you say.
But, it's the type of healthy mental disagreements that use to go on in my philosophy courses.

The essence of my disagreement is just what you say:

"We simply have to determine whether or not we are going to continue to allow their explanations to control our behavior. "

Explanations are IDEAS; ergo ideas (ideology) control our behavior .

My philosophical position:
Ideas (ideology) govern social/political behavior : religions ideas, economic ideas, ethnic ideas, etc.

But, I'm sure Socrates would have something to say about that.

No , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:28 pm GMT • 17.2 hours ago

Chris Hedges is an open socialist and open zionest. Just check his other YT videos if you doubt. I can't watch even listen to the sound of his voice after having heard some of the things he has said in the past. Very off-putting.

Richard B , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:14 pm GMT • 14.4 hours ago
@Tom Verso etail than might be appropriate here. So, let's just say for now that the two words serve different semantic functions.

Also, to say "ideas (ideology) control our behavior" is to repeat the same fallacy of misplaced correctnes as the previous comment. To hypostatize is to place the word in the realm of the fictitious. But, to regard it as a direction-giving word puts the focus where it belongs, ie; our response to the word.

Ideas (ideology) govern social/political behavior: religions ideas, economic ideas, ethnic ideas, etc.

I agree that they are used to govern behavior. But it's humans who use those words to do the governing. Not the words.

Thanks again for your response.

[Nov 03, 2020] How DHS and FBI Officials Spun a Dubious Russian Election Threat Days Before Voting

National security parasites want taxpayers money. Badly.
Notable quotes:
"... Just days before the 2020 election the bureaucratic forces behind the original claim of Russian hacking of state election-related websites in 2016 launched a new drive to spawn fears of Moscow-made political chaos in the wake of the voting. ..."
"... The new narrative was not consistent with information previously published by the the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), however. It was so incoherent, in fact, that it suggested a state of panic on the part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials worried about a possible transition to a Joe Biden administration. ..."
"... Krebs' warning of a possible Russian announcement that hackers had succeeded in disrupting the result of the U.S. election was so removed from reality that it suggested internal panic DHS over the failure of Russian hackers to do anything that could be cited as interfering the election. ..."
"... Two days after Krebs' dubious warning, the FBI and the DHS's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued an "alert" reporting that "a Russian state-sponsored APT [Advanced Persistent Threat] actor" known as "Berserk Bear" had "conducted a campaign against a wide variety of US targets." ..."
"... On October 28, Krebs elaborated on the latter theme in an interview with the PBS NewsHour . Referring inaccurately to government warnings about "Russian interference, some of which targeted voter registration," which the FBI-CISA alert had never mentioned, PBS interviewer William Brangham asked, "Do you worry at all that there might be infiltration that we are not aware of?" ..."
"... Instead of correcting Brangham's inaccurate suggestion, Krebs responded that "infiltration" into voter registration files was "certainly possible," but that "[W]e have improved the ability to detect compromises or anomalous activity." ..."
Nov 03, 2020 | original.antiwar.com

How DHS and FBI Officials Spun a Dubious Russian Election Threat Days Before Voting

by Gareth Porter Posted on November 03, 2020

Reprinted from The Grayzone with the author's permission.

A Department of Homeland Security election alert spawning new Russia fears was so incoherent and inconsistent with previous findings, it suggested a state of political panic inside the agency.

Just days before the 2020 election the bureaucratic forces behind the original claim of Russian hacking of state election-related websites in 2016 launched a new drive to spawn fears of Moscow-made political chaos in the wake of the voting.

The new narrative was not consistent with information previously published by the the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), however. It was so incoherent, in fact, that it suggested a state of panic on the part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials worried about a possible transition to a Joe Biden administration.

On October 20, Christopher Krebs, the head of CISA, issued a video statement expressing confidence that "it would be incredibly difficult for them to change the outcome of an election at the national level." Then he abruptly changed his tone, adding, "But that doesn't mean various actors won't try to introduce chaos in our elections and make sensational claims that overstate their capabilities. In fact, the days and weeks just before and after Election Day is the perfect time for our adversaries to launch efforts intended to undermine your confidence in the integrity of the electoral process."

Krebs' warning of a possible Russian announcement that hackers had succeeded in disrupting the result of the U.S. election was so removed from reality that it suggested internal panic DHS over the failure of Russian hackers to do anything that could be cited as interfering the election.

Two days after Krebs' dubious warning, the FBI and the DHS's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued an "alert" reporting that "a Russian state-sponsored APT [Advanced Persistent Threat] actor" known as "Berserk Bear" had "conducted a campaign against a wide variety of US targets."

Since "at least September," according to the DHS alert, the DHS warning claimed that it had targeted "dozens" of "US state, local, territorial and tribal government networks." It even claimed that the supposed Russian campaign had compromised the network infrastructure of several official organizations and "exfiltrated data from at least two victims servers". At the same time, it acknowledged there was "no indication" that any government operations had been "intentionally disrupted."

The report went on to suggest, "[T]here may be some risk to elections information housed on SLTT [state, local territorial and tribal] government networks." And then it abruptly shifted tone and level of analysis to offer the speculation that the Russian government "may be seeking access to obtain future disruption options, to influence US policies or actions", or to "delegitimize" the "government entities".

On October 28, Krebs elaborated on the latter theme in an interview with the PBS NewsHour . Referring inaccurately to government warnings about "Russian interference, some of which targeted voter registration," which the FBI-CISA alert had never mentioned, PBS interviewer William Brangham asked, "Do you worry at all that there might be infiltration that we are not aware of?"

Instead of correcting Brangham's inaccurate suggestion, Krebs responded that "infiltration" into voter registration files was "certainly possible," but that "[W]e have improved the ability to detect compromises or anomalous activity."

Krebs then homed in on a scenario he obviously wanted the public to focus on: "[Y]ou might see various actors, foreign powers, claim that they were able to accomplish something, [that] they were able to hack a database or hack the vote count. And it's simply not true."

Although the October 22 alert did not assert any deliberate Russian government hack of election-related sites, Krebs sought to keep speculation about both Russian capabilities and intent alive.

The buried alert that undermined the frightening official assessment

Eleven days before Krebs debuted his speculation about Russia claiming to have hacked US elections, the FBI and CISA issued a separate alert that seriously undercut his questionable claims.

The earlier document was clearly referring to the very same efforts by hackers to break into various websites address in the October 22 alert. It not only referred to the same state and local government networks and to the wider range of targets affect but also mentioned precisely the same technical vulnerabilities that were targeted in the series of hacks.

The alert further stated that, "[I]t does not appear these targets are being selected because of their proximity to elections information ." In other words, the two US agencies conceded they had no basis for attributing to any of the hacks in question to any election interference plot.

The most striking difference between the two alerts, however, was that the October 9 alert did not refer to any "Russian state-sponsored APT actor" as the October 22 one did. Instead, it simply pointed to "APT actors" in the plural, indicating that the US intelligence community had no evidence indicating a single actor was at work, let alone one that was "Russian-state sponsored."

Contrary to the impression that US officials may have conveyed in referencing an "Advance Persistent Threat," or APT, it is now widely understood by cybersecurity specialists that this term no longer refers to a state-sponsored actor. That is because the sophisticated tools and techniques once associated with state-sponsored hacking have now become available to a much wider range of cyber actors. Indeed, the codes for such high-end tools have been identified in the Shadow Brokers and Vault 7 leaks, and the tools have been marketed widely at affordable prices on the dark web.

The October 9 alert firmly established the dearth of evidence on the part of CISA and FBI about a Russian state-sponsored hacking team planning elections-related operations in the US The sudden pivot days later to an unqualified claim that a single state-sponsored APT had been responsible for the same very large range of operations should have been accompanied by claims of substantial new intelligence, or at least a reference to the evidence underlying the dramatic new reversal. But no such proof ever arrived.

Scott McConnell, the spokesman for CISA, promised the Grazyzone on October 29 that he would provide someone to answer questions about the October 22 alert by the close of business Friday. In the end, however, no one from CISA responded, and there was no answer on McConnell's line.

The peculiar reversal by the DHS and CISA on the hacking claims raise questions about the institutional considerations taken by these agencies. Did indications that President Donald Trump's campaign was faltering inform their decision to issue a more stridently anti-Russian assessment in hopes of surviving a political transition?

The US officials who drew up the initial pre-election alert seemed keenly aware that despite that drumbeat of over the past two years, no state-sponsored Russian hacking of election institutions was underway. But as the Trump campaign sputtered, they had their own careers to consider. Days later, DHS and CISA declared the wily Russians guilty of yet another malign operations – albeit one that would not require the slightest evidence to provide, and which proved impossible to explain.

Gareth Porter, an investigative historian and journalist specializing in US national security policy, received the UK-based Gellhorn Prize for journalism for 2011 for articles on the U.S. war in Afghanistan. His new book is Manufactured Crisis: the Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare . He can be contacted at [email protected] .

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[Nov 03, 2020] Israel Wins U.S. Election by Philip Giraldi

Nov 03, 2020 | www.unz.com

Congress and White House work together to reward the Jewish state PHILIP GIRALDI NOVEMBER 3, 2020 1,300 WORDS 92 COMMENTS REPLY

The U.S. election will end today, more or less, and we Americans will suffer another four years of putting up with serial nonsense out of a White House and Congress that could care less about us no matter who is elected. Whether the party where everything changes or the party where everything remains the same wins the inevitable result will be further aggrandizement of authoritarian power combined with increased distancing of government from the people who are ruled.

Amidst all the gloom, however, there is one great success story. That is the tale of how Israel and its friends in politics and financial circles have been able to screw every possible advantage out of both major parties simultaneously and apparently effortlessly. Israel might be the true undisputed winner in the 2020 election even though it was not on the ballot and was hardly mentioned at all during the campaign.

Jewish billionaires with close ties to Israel have been courted by the two major parties, both to come up with contributions and to urge their friends in the oligarch club and media to also respond favorably. The Democrats' largest single donor is entertainment mogul Haim Saban while the Republicans rely on casino multi-billionaire Sheldon Adelson. It is estimated that 60% of the political contributions for the Democrats comes from Jewish sources and Saban is the single largest contributor. He is also an Israeli holding dual citizenship. Adelson, who may also hold dual citizenship and is married to an Israeli, is the major supporter of the Republicans, having coughed up more than $100 million in recent elections.

Both Saban and Adelson have not been shy about supporting Israel as their first priority. Saban is on record as supporting Joe Biden "because of his track record on supporting Israel and its alliance with the United States." Adelson, who was drafted into the U.S. Army in the 1950s, has said that he would much rather have served in the Israel Defense Force. Saban and Adelson are joined in their love fest with Israel by a number of Israel-firsters in Congress and the Administration, all eager to shower unlimited political support, money and weapons on the Jewish state.

In the latest manifestation of noblesse oblige, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper stopped off in Israel last week to present his counterparts with a significant bit of assistance, all funded by the American taxpayer, of course. According to sources in Washington and Jerusalem, the U.S. "will grant Israel direct access to highly classified satellites such as the missile detection birds known as SBIRS and ensure Israel gets critical defense platforms in a very short time by using production slots planned for the U.S armed forces." Israel will also be given "deeper access to the core avionic systems" of the new F-35 fighter that it has been obtaining from Washington.

The claimed rationale for the upgrade is the Congressionally mandated requirement for the U.S. to maintain Israel's "qualitative military edge" in light of the impending sale of the F-35 to Arab states that have recently established diplomatic relations with Israel. At the time, Israeli sources were suggesting that the Jewish state might need $8 billion in new military hardware upgrades to maintain its advantage over its neighbors. It is presumed that the American taxpayer will foot the bill, even though there is a serious financial crisis going on in the U.S.

The satellite detection system operates from aerial platforms that are deployed on helicopters. The astute reader will notice that no U.S. security interest is involved in the latest giveaway to Israel. On the contrary, Israel will be receiving material from "production slots planned for the U.S. armed forces," reducing America's own ability to detect incoming missiles. And there will also be considerable damage to American defense interests in that Israel will inevitably steal the advanced F-35 technology that they will be given access to, re-engineer it for their own defense industries and sell it to clients in Asia, Africa, and Latin America. They have done so before , selling U.S. developed missile technology to China.

Congress is also doing its bit. A bill, the so-called "U.S.-Israel Common Defense Authorization Act," is making its way through the House of Representatives and will authorize the provision of U.S. manufactured bunker buster bombs to Israel. As the bombs would only be useful in Israel's neighborhood to bomb hardened sites in Iran, the message being sent is obvious. The Massive Ordnance Penetrator weighs 30,000 pounds and is capable of destroying targets located deep underground. Oddly, Israel doesn't have a plane capable of carrying that weight so the presumption is that the White House will also have to provide the bomber. The bill is co-sponsored by two leading Israel firsters in Congress Democrat Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey and Republican Brian Mast of Florida.

Israel is also seeking an upgrade of some of its other fighter aircraft. It reportedly has approached the Pentagon seeking to buy the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, a single-seat, twin-engine, all-weather stealth tactical fighter aircraft that was originally developed for the United States Air Force (USAF). Its stealth capability, top speed, maneuverability combined with advanced air-to-air and air-to-ground weapon systems, makes it the best air superiority fighter in the world.

Unfortunately for Israel, the F-22 is not currently available and is only operated by the USAF. Current U.S. federal law prohibits the export of the plane to anyone to protect its top secret advanced stealth technology as well as a number of advances in weaponry and situational awareness. But if deference to Israel's wishes is anything to go by, one might safely bet that the Jewish state will have received approval to acquire the plane by inauguration day in January. And it is a safe bet that Israeli defense contractors will have reverse engineered the stealth and other features soon thereafter.

The U.S. government has been pandering to Israel in other ways, to include labeling , and sanctioning, prominent human rights groups that have criticized the Jewish state as anti-Semitic. It has also strengthened existing sanctions against Iranian financial institutions , reportedly in an attempt to make it more difficult for a President Biden to reinstate the suspended Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) that sought to monitor the Iranian nuclear program. The sanctions come on top of other moves to destroy the Iranian economy, to include " that the U.S., along with Israel, has in recent months carried out sabotage attacks inside Iran, destroying power plants, aluminum and chemical factories, a medical clinic and 7 ships at the port of Bushehr "

Other recent developments favoring Israel include Congress's legislating Israeli government veto authority over U.S. sales of weapons to any other Middle Eastern nation. The bill is called "Guaranteeing Israel's QME [Qualitative Military Edge] Act of 2020" (H.R. 8494). There has also been the expansion by Executive Order of U.S. funded illegal West Bank Jewish settlements' science development projects that will eventually compete with American companies.

In truth, the United States has become Israel's bitch and there is hardly a politician or journalist who has the courage to say so. Congress and the media have been so corrupted by money emanating from the Israeli lobby that they cannot do enough to satisfy America's rulers in Jerusalem. And for those who do not succumb to the money there is always intimidation, career-ending weaponized accusations of holocaust-denial and anti-Semitism. It is all designed to produce one result: whoever wins in American elections doesn't matter as long as Israel gets what it wants. And it almost always gets what it wants.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


ingotus , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:15 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago

Small typo – Mark Esper, not Mike Esper –

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 5:27 am GMT • 16.9 hours ago

' The sanctions come on top of other moves to destroy the Iranian economy, to include " that the U.S., along with Israel, has in recent months carried out sabotage attacks inside Iran, destroying power plants, aluminum and chemical factories, a medical clinic and 7 ships at the port of Bushehr "

Do you have a source for this?

Mike321 , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:52 am GMT • 16.5 hours ago

Years ago, before he was VP, I saw Biden give a speech on C-SPAN in which he said, "I am a Zionist." I thought, "Note to self: never vote for him."

interesting , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:09 am GMT • 16.2 hours ago
@Colin Wright

Good fucking question. I for one am sick of this shit ..claims made, no sources revealed we are supposed to take these claims on "faith" ..akin to a religion.

I can tell you this. If I was Iran I'd be working day and fucking night to get a nuke the neocon, liberalcon warmongers have made it clear as soon as it's convenient, invasion and destroy Iran

Like Neo when he is first released from the matrix and in the construct "I want out, let me out" .of this insanity, the mask shit included.

Lot , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:40 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago
@Colin Wright

No he doesn't.

He also just assumes Jewish trickery, and not the obvious fact that Israel is like Medicare and Social Security and NASA: popular with politicians because it is popular with the public.

Israel, as Phil's commie friends put it, is our "settler-colonial" daughter state. And nothing is too good for our girl!

Anon [115] Disclaimer , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:01 am GMT • 15.4 hours ago

I have been reading articles that go back as far as 1967 and the U.S.S. Liberty incident in which it was implied by many writers that the U.S. was Israel's bitch. It's not as if this thought is new, as even Admiral Thomas Moorer having stated he never knew a U.S. president who could stand up to Israel. If all of this is true, it's pathetic as well.

Abbas , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:28 am GMT • 14.9 hours ago

Is it possible that the USA will curtail her defence power for the sake of Israel? What will be the benefit of the USA if it amplifies Israeli Defence at the cost of US defence?

jacobs-adder , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:00 am GMT • 14.4 hours ago

' Pentagon seeking to buy the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, a single-seat, twin-engine, all-weather stealth tactical fighter aircraft..'

Unit cost: US$150 million
Program cost: US$67.3 billion (as of 2010)

Good to know a $150 million fighter jet is able to fly in the rain. I dread to think how much the de-mister system cost!

Bardon Kaldian , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:15 am GMT • 14.1 hours ago

Why not say Saudi Arabia wins US election?

Tommy Thompson , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:10 am GMT • 13.2 hours ago

Dr. Phil, your article is truly very precise, penetrating and embarrassing to our political class.

I can see that the American public is already all stirred up and will not take this slouched in front of their TV sets watching the game any longer.

The MAGA's are sure to march on the White House and oust our leaders Kushner / Ivanka. The BLM/ANTIFA's are sure to demonstrate again and ransack Congress and oust the Pelosi Democrats.

Hilarious, LOL

I decided not to hold my breath waiting for any public reaction.

We Americans at the bottom of the money pyramid prefer to fight and name call each other and not look upwards.

JWalters , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:15 am GMT • 13.1 hours ago

How the Israeli benjamins work –
"War Profiteers and the Roots of the 'War on Terror'"
https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-roots-of-war-on.html

Contraviews , says: November 3, 2020 at 10:08 am GMT • 12.3 hours ago

That's why America needs a revolution culminating in a complete regime change. Civil war already appears to be on the horizon, ugly things will Bev happening, but it will unfortunately be necessary to change the world for the better. And other countries, France, Germany and Britain may follow.

UncommonGround , says: November 3, 2020 at 10:11 am GMT • 12.2 hours ago
@Colin Wright

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53417227

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/world/middleeast/iran-Natanz-nuclear-damage.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Iran_explosions

Phoenix , says: November 3, 2020 at 11:13 am GMT • 11.2 hours ago

Excellent title for an article on the American election.

We get a similar Jewish answer when asking who were the big winners of WW II.

Philip Giraldi , says: November 3, 2020 at 11:16 am GMT • 11.1 hours ago
@Colin Wright

Yes – the Mondoweiss link that precedes the quotation

God's Fool , says: November 3, 2020 at 11:44 am GMT • 10.7 hours ago

A Democrat of New Jersey and a Republican of Florida sponsoring a bill to benefit Israel let's just forget the Jewish angle in all these charades and call it bipartisan.

Ugetit , says: November 3, 2020 at 12:02 pm GMT • 10.4 hours ago
@Phoenix

We get a similar Jewish answer when asking who were the big winners of WW II.

True, and that goes for WW1 as well. And all the rest of the wars fought and paid for by us to impose Communism and Zionism world wide.

Black Picard , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 12:31 pm GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@Contraviews

It's coming in the form of either Civil War 2 or permanent seccessions. Good riddance!!

Truth Hurts the Liars , says: November 3, 2020 at 12:36 pm GMT • 9.8 hours ago

Giraldi for President.

Kwiatkowski for VP.

ANONymous [174] Disclaimer , says: November 3, 2020 at 12:46 pm GMT • 9.6 hours ago
@Colin Wright

Do we need to have sources on these issues?
Haven't you learn by now, that any stone you pick, you will find a Jew hiding under?

Few days ago, with all this Bobulinski/Joe Biden/Hunter family crap I said to my wife.
Honey something is missing from the whole story.
She ask. What is missing?
I said. The Jew
And two days ago .voila!
The Yaacov(s) Apelbaum(s) have everything to see https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 12:53 pm GMT • 9.5 hours ago

In truth, the United States has become Israel's bitch

Beautifully stated, Phil!

JoaoAlfaiate , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:04 pm GMT • 9.3 hours ago

The F-22 will make a short stopover in Tel Aviv on its way to Peking.

Rich , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:08 pm GMT • 9.3 hours ago

I always thought we were England's "bitch". Fought 2 world wars to stop them from having to learn German and have continued to use our military to support their business interests throughout the world. It can even be argued that our support for Israel is based on our subservience to the British Crown since Israel itself is a British project. Anyway, there is no major political leader in the US who hasn't said he is a staunch supporter of Israel. That isn't going to change.

GreatSocialist , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:28 pm GMT • 8.9 hours ago

The way Trump has bent over and offered his rear to the Jewish lobby and Israel is embarrassing. The USA should help and support Israel, but not at the blatant expense of raping its own citizens.

However, one can't blame Israel for taking advantage of the corruption and weakness in the USA, and also its amazingly dumb voting public. Who wouldn't want another country(USA) to pay for their military(Israel) and also use the USA to fight, pay, and die for Israel?

White nationalists blame the Jewish lobby for much of the problems in America, but at the same time they lovingly Asskiss Trump and his horrid son-in-law, who would sell out America to Israel without any hesitation. This is first-class stupidity.

Biden may say he is a Zionist, but he has never shown the full-on, total sellout Trump has done in putting Jewish interests always before American interests. Trump and his horrid son-in-law have literally allowed Israel to rape America's ass everyday since he has been POTUS.

A vote for Trump is a vote for the Jewish lobby to keep on raping America's ass thru "bendover" Trump for the next 4 years.

Greta Handel , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:32 pm GMT • 8.9 hours ago
@ingotus

Similarly, the correct form is "a White House and Congress that couldn't care less about us no matter who is elected."

Robert Dolan , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:34 pm GMT • 8.8 hours ago
@Lot

Israel isn't popular with the public.

Americans want nothing to do with wars in the ME for Israel.

Robert Dolan , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:37 pm GMT • 8.8 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3nwtR1j0Zr4o/

Jiminy , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:40 pm GMT • 8.7 hours ago

Strangely here in Australia, chairman Morrison was going to put three and a half million dollars to be matched by his hopefully newly elected Qld premier, into constructing a Jewish holocaust museum. One can only wonder why in Qld, Australia of all places and in the 21st century, we would need to have a Jewish propaganda business setup. Paid for by the poor old taxpayer of course.
What follows? A museum dedicated to the twenty million dead Russians. Maybe one for the hundreds of thousands of slaughtered Iraqi muslims. Or one in remembrance to the millions of lives lost to the covid19 holocaust of 2020.
Sadly it seems like this Jewish rot is spreading quicker than the virus through our societies.

shylockcracy , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:46 pm GMT • 8.6 hours ago

The US and the Rothschild neocolony in Palestine are part of the same conglomerate. Simon Bolivar was warning us that the US would enslave the Americas in the name of "freedom" a years before the Monroe Doctrine became a thing, so it didn't exactly become what it is after the Ziocorporate neocolony came to exist. How nice that the goals of the founding fathers and the Ziocorporate world order came to intertwine so conveniently since so early on.

Have the Ziocorporate contractors and entities profited from selling tech and weapons to the Ziosalafi former British colonies in the Middle East and from the petrodollar? Transfering all that technology, spanning everything from nuclear weapons to cybersecurity and AI, is the way to ensure that mafia conglomerate's primacy there and everywhere.

Jews of Europe and North Africa could've been Haavara'd to the US after WW2 but that would have limited and complicated business opportunities for the American overclass to globalise the Monroe Doctrine. Rome wasn't built in a day after all.

MarkU , says: November 3, 2020 at 1:51 pm GMT • 8.5 hours ago
@Rich and while we are about it you never broke the German enigma code, we did, whatever your lying Hollywood garbage tells you. So maybe, if you end up in a war we will sell you stuff from the sidelines until we get dragged into it ourselves and then we will see how grateful you are. As I said earlier, save it for the French.

WW1, on the other hand was a stalemate until the Americans joined (late as always) and after you had made huge profits, mainly at our expense. So we weren't exactly in danger then either.

So no, you are not our bitches, both of our nations are bitches of the international bankers.

Alfred , says: November 3, 2020 at 2:19 pm GMT • 8.1 hours ago
@Abbas

benefit of the USA if it amplifies Israeli Defence at the cost of US defence?

Are you suggesting that Israelis will die in the place of Americans?

Alfred , says: November 3, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT • 8.0 hours ago

The bodyguard in the picture. How many Palestinians did he personally kill? I wonder.

He certainly does not look normal at all. I am not suggesting that Pelosi and Netanyahu look normal.

Z-man , says: November 3, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT • 7.9 hours ago

Philip! You used the word bitch. For a faceless nobody like me that's fine but for you Mr. Giraldi, the 'spears tip' and highly respected member of the 'beware of Zion' movement that's even better. (Grin)
That kikenvermin Gottheimer unfortunately happens to be my congressman. He's in a close election so lets hope he loses even though his opponent is all too aware of the power of the CABAL. I pray for even worse endings for this slug, Jay -sus forgive me.

PS. If the Zionists get 'Bunker Buster' bombs they will need the platforms to carry them, so the U.S. Government (us) will have to give them B 2 bombers. Insane!

Desert Fox , says: November 3, 2020 at 2:52 pm GMT • 7.5 hours ago

The zionists were the biggest winners in 1913, when they fastened their FED and IRS on America and since that time zionists and since 1948 Israel has been the winner and America the loser, as the zionists have raped America.

The biggest example of this was the Israel and zionist in the ZUS attack on the WTC which was blamed on the Arabs and gave the kabal the excuse to destroy the middle east.

ANONymous [174] Disclaimer , says: November 3, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 7.4 hours ago
@Lot

Lot = Flaming Israeli Troll.

Sayan, so to speak.

TRM , says: November 3, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT • 7.0 hours ago

You didn't really think the Zionists were going to give up control of the president to China did you? A honeypot operation is something all intel agencies do but Israel snagged Bill Clinton and hundreds of others.

Funny thing is the rank and file of the Jewish community is 90% registered Democrat and wanted Hillary and now Joe but their "elites" and "leadership" care as much about their opinion as any other groups' elites and leaders. ZERO. George Carlin was correct: "There's a big club and you and I aren't in it".

FLgeezer , says: November 3, 2020 at 3:32 pm GMT • 6.9 hours ago
@Desert Fox t.

Palm Beach County school board members voted unanimously Monday to rescind their reinstatement of Spanish River High School Principal William Latson.

He was originally fired last year after telling a student's parent that "he can't say the Holocaust is a factual, historical event."

The community was outraged by his comments, and the board's decision to rehire him after an administrative law judge ruled he shouldn't have been fired.

Board member Barbara McQuinn says Latson opened the door to denying the atrocity of the Holocaust.
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Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 4:14 pm GMT • 6.2 hours ago
@Philip Giraldi

'Yes – the Mondoweiss link that precedes the quotation '

By cracky!

You're right. I should have checked. I regret having offered the forces of evil (Lot et al) some straw of hope.

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 4:20 pm GMT • 6.1 hours ago
@Lot

'No he doesn't.'

Sadly for you, Lot, it turns out Giraldi does have evidence for his claim: see his response to my post.

Isn't it nice that that we clarified that?

You're a bright young gentleman, Lot -- but in Israel, you're trying to defend the indefensible.

No matter what your intellectual resources or how much energy you expend, it can never work. It's like trying to prove two and two make five. You may well be a mathematical prodigy -- you still won't be able to do it.

You're wrong: logically, factually, morally. That's the way it is. It can never change.

Clyde , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:23 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago
@geokat62

In truth, the United States has become Israel's bitch
Beautifully stated, Phil!

Right on tripping bro! The US should be Iran's shiite bitch as it was under Barak Hussein Ubama. Uber Bama where you dumb whites will bump heads on carpets as you submit.

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 4:23 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago
@ANONymous

' Do we need to have sources on these issues?'

We do. It turned out it really had been the Russians who killed the Poles at Katyn, etc -- however many the Germans had also killed.

If one is to make a convincing argument, one has to be careful to avoid hyperbole that can be discredited.

When I questioned Giraldi's sources, he was able to provide them. His case is now stronger.

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:25 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=true&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1323457162379579392&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fpgiraldi%2Fisrael-wins-u-s-election%2F&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=500px

dogbumbreath , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:36 pm GMT • 5.8 hours ago

Years ago, before he was VP, I saw Biden give a speech on C-SPAN in which he said, "I am a Zionist." I thought, "Note to self: never vote for him."

90% of Politicians are Zionists. You will NOT have a career in politics unless you are a Zionist. If you judge by what someone says it is fatal .judge by words, actions and results. Do the later and you will be convinced whomever the new President is .is corrupt and a liar.

Trinity , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:42 pm GMT • 5.7 hours ago

The most disgusting thing to me or should I say the most RETARDED thing to me is that America SACRIFICES OUR TROOPS to build a Greater Israel, while America and the rest of traditionally White nations in Europe take in primitive Muslims who are literally raping Europeans and slaughtering them on the streets. So we bomb Arab nations for Israel, have to MAKE ISRAEL GREAT AGAIN, get rid of (((their Muzzie problem))), and then import the "refugees" to lands that are responsible for bombing them or killing their relatives, family members, friends, etc. Does this sound like a recipe for DESTROYING THE WEST to you? It is a LOSE LOSE for Whitey most definitely, and a win somewhat for the Muslim invaders who are acquiring free housing, breeding at a rate where they will soon become the majority in places like London, maybe even in Stockholm IF we don't put a stop to this insanity. WE are DEMANDED to hate Muslims/Arabs when it comes to fighting Israel's Wars in the Middle East but then WE, White people that is, are DEMANDED by our Jewish overlords to love being infested with hordes of these same people being brought into our nations. Yes, we are to love people who rape OUR women, live off OUR blood, sweat, and tears for FREE, take over positions of power like becoming a mayor in the largest city in Europe, etc.

NEWS FLASH: How many Whites are in the world? How many Jews are in the world? Money and political clout only works against you when you allow it to, when you have the numbers, you decide, learn that. Whitey, you better wake up while you still are a diminishing majority in your own nations.

I'll end with this one. We have all seen the commercial about sending money to Israel for the endless "holocaust victims," my gawd, when is the last "holocaust victim" going to finally die of old age, but now (((they))) have a commercial encouraging people to send money to elderly Jews in Israel who are dealing with (((Covid-19.))) My lawd, do (((these people))) have no shame. America is currently sending A MINIMUM OF 3.8 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO THIS TINY NATION, AND HERE (((THEY))) ARE STILL BEGGING FOR MORE, THIS TIME, USING THE TEAR JERKING TECHNIQUE of showing poor, frail, bent elderly people who desperately need YOUR shekels against the Jew Flu.

Notsofast , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:43 pm GMT • 5.7 hours ago
@MarkU

What are you going to sell used tanks? Thats like selling coal to newcastle, the only thing we make anymore is bombs and you fellows dont make anything but obscene profits for international banking types. You wont be dragged into to war you will be thrown in with the rest of the nato poodles. Sad state of affairs.

dogbumbreath , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:46 pm GMT • 5.6 hours ago
@Jiminy Strangely here in Australia, chairman Morrison was going to put three and a half million dollars to be matched by his hopefully newly elected Qld premier, into constructing a Jewish holocaust museum. One can only wonder why in Qld, Australia of all places and in the 21st century, we would need to have a Jewish propaganda business setup. Paid for by the poor old taxpayer of course.

"They" have done the same in South Africa. Modern Jewish holocaust museum in Cape Town while native Africans sleep in the surrounding park lawns and benches. Hollowcaust Propaganda is big "free money" business.

Cho Seung-hui , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:55 pm GMT • 5.5 hours ago

Everyone keeps on talking about the election. I just can't be bothered to care.

I do care about politics in the sense that I care, as anyone else does, about the distribution of power in the United States and the extent to which American ideas can spread to the rest of the world. These issues, like Israel, are not voted upon.

That's a bit different than "politics", a local American ritual in which normies select a random point within the pre-packaged spectrum of political correctness and pick a candidate based on where they live and what's considered socially acceptable in that locale They then rationalize their decision based on the perception of the candidate's personality and/or some generality like "I oppose racism".

Democracy is overrated.

jacobs-adder , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:56 pm GMT • 5.5 hours ago

Its truly masterful to create a system where any potential criticism or pushback you may face is made illegal under defamation laws enforced by an Institution – you control. The Jewish 'attack' (and I think it is fair to say, we are under attack from a highly ruthless, very clever enemy playing completely by its own rules) appears to be on several fronts –

1)Political lobbying / Political positioning / Positions in Justice System / Other Government Positions

2)NGO's/ Social Justice Organisations/ Censorship

3)Jewish Private Business Owners

Big Tech / Finance/ Media/ Real Estate

4)Clandestine operations – Mossad, proxy agents etc

This has effectively given a foreign power a vice like grip on our politics, law, culture, industry and banking system/financial markets. They are able to create and control a narrative to enforce beneficial ideologies whilst simultaneously censoring any threats through fact and data suppression. Its a communist dream come true. The worst thing is, they make us grateful and willing participants, its the definition of evil genius!

What scares me is we what we don't know about Jewish Power -the clandestine activities to gain more political leverage and power.

Trying to educate people on this subject (made easier by articles like this)is very difficult. Would we be comfortable with allowing moslems or hindus the same influence in our governments in terms of sheer number of positions and access to policy creation/change or military funding etc Probably not but that's becasue nobody does it better than the Jews. Your absolutely right – Israel always gets what it wants.

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 4:58 pm GMT • 5.4 hours ago
@Clyde sh President" became the cover headline for a 2011 article in New York Magazine). In that same CJN article, another Democratic activist, Newton Minow, told CJN that Obama "is very much at home with Jewish people, their values and interests," while Rabbi Arnold Wolf of KAM Isaiah Israel Congregation in Chicago, of blessed memory, said Obama is "embedded in the Jewish world."

https://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/An-insiders-view-Eight-years-watching-the-first-Jewish-president-479039

Curmudgeon , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:07 pm GMT • 5.3 hours ago
@MarkU g-letter-documents-King-George-V-urged-foreign-secretary-justify-conflict-two-days-outbreak-First-World-War.html
In a time where mobilization was seen as an act of war, Germany was the last country to mobilize for WWI.
Of course the evil Nahhhtzeees were just itching to invade the UK.
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id763.html

He may have done the same to the UK as he had done to Germany – have full employment and an increased standard of living, without the banks being involved. That just was not going to happen. All wars are banker wars.

aandrews , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:07 pm GMT • 5.3 hours ago

"Could care less about" drives me up the wall, too, as we split grammatical hairs while Israel is right on the cusp of finally getting White America destroyed. This is it!

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:08 pm GMT • 5.3 hours ago
@Trinity

Does this sound like a recipe for DESTROYING THE WEST to you?

I'll let Ronald Lauder of World Jewish Congress respond (after having injected him with a truth serum):

When we said Never Again!, we meant it, goy.

So, say goodbye to "blood and soil" and hello to "multiculti."

What a bunch of schmucks!

Clay Alexander , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:11 pm GMT • 5.2 hours ago

Thank God Trump put an end to all this Israel's bitch nonsense. Now we're a full blown whore for
Tel Aviv and the world knows it. Trump gave "Cadillac Bebe" our pimp the key to the "White House, America and the hearts of the American people". Yo Bebe when you're finished turn the lights out.

Trinity , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:44 pm GMT • 4.7 hours ago
@Clay Alexander

As IF Joe " I Am A Zionist" Biden, and Barack Obama aka "The First Jewish President" were any better. I voted for Trump, and I agree, he is no different than the rest when it comes to Israel, but do you really want Joe The Zionist who will gladly step down and relinquish the office to "Caramel" Harris in less than a year to run things.

Trump has been a disappointment but at least he is isn't OPENLY ANTI-WHITE and he bides us 4 more years.

The demsheviks suck even more Zionist cawk than the republiCANTS if that is possible.

MarkU , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:49 pm GMT • 4.6 hours ago
@Notsofast

Well to be fair, you did manage to sell us used destroyers which might have seemed equally unlikely. But you are right, I was merely making a rhetorical point, and yes a very sad state of affairs.

RobinG , says: November 3, 2020 at 5:58 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago

Sacha Baron Cohen, Propagandist
CIA contacts, a web of lies, and a robust propaganda operation. It's time to start asking questions about Borat's methods -- and his goals.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/sacha-baron-cohen-propagandist/

"If we're supposed to be so worried about "election disinformation" and foreign election meddling, shouldn't we be concerned about a British multimillionaire -- with unexplained connections to the CIA and the White House press corps, and public affiliation with other institutions clearly hostile to Trump like the ADL -- carrying out massive information ops in the lead-up to an election that he has publicly expressed an interest in influencing? Or should we just pretend it's all okay because the press told us we're supposed to be laughing?"

AaronB , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:04 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago

Am I allowed to point out that if America is Israels slave, then surely America is Japan's slave?

America keeps large troop forces in Japan to defend it. The Japanese save money and use it to develop their industries which outcompete American industries.

To an alien, it would surely appear that somehow, Japan has managed to infiltrate the top levels of the US government.

Likewise, America lost over 70,000 soldiers to defend Vietnam, and spent an untold amount over several years, in a region far from America. An alien might think Vietnam had somehow managed to enslave American leaders.

Or would our alien be missing crucial context, and is American policy consistent in all these cases on based on principles, and not a question of being enslaved by foreign powers.

anon [115] Disclaimer , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:14 pm GMT • 4.2 hours ago

ALL OF THE ELECTION FRAUD WILL BE ON THE SIDE OF THE DEMOCRATS. How do we know this? They have been doing it for five years .

MarkU , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:30 pm GMT • 3.9 hours ago
@Curmudgeon body is going to argue about borrowing, unless they want to be called a traitor. I wonder how many people could provide even a vaguely sensible account of the issues that started WW1?

Have you ever seen Robert Newman's History of oil

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GIpm_8v80hw?feature=oembed

He is a comedian primarily but I thought it was interesting and he provides some key insights. It is also quite entertaining I thought, but humour is a very individual thing. You sound as if you would know most of that stuff anyway but it is worth a watch even so.

Old and Grumpy , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:32 pm GMT • 3.9 hours ago
@Contraviews

How do you win this civil war? Sounds good, but I know way to may holy rollers that want their rapture and Jew rule. I don't know a liberal who isn't a Zionist. So where will you get the human numbers, and how do you get weapons?

Sick of Orcs , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:35 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago

whoever wins in American elections doesn't matter as long as Israel gets what it wants. And it almost always gets what it wants.

When did Israel not get what it wanted? Who said 'No?'

Old and Grumpy , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:38 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago

Kinda old news. The Zionists have been ruling the US since they were rumored to have assassinated JFK. Like him or not , he was the last president to say no to Israel. Well George HW Bush did a soft no on West Bank settlements, but I believe he was the one to put us under Noahide laws. Guess losing an election was the nice way to admonish him for being a partial good goy.

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:45 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago
@AaronB

Am I allowed to point out that if America is Israels slave, then surely America is Japan's slave?

LOL! What's the Japanese equivalent of AIPAC? And how many pols can they boast they have in their collection of scalps?

We know for a fact AIPAC has at least eight:

4 Representatives:
Cynthia McKinney, Paul Findley, Earl F. Hilliard, Pete McCloskey,

4 Senators:
William Fulbright, Roger Jepsen, Adlai Stevenson III, Charles H. Percy

Justsaying , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:49 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago

Great piece this, confirming what we have already known for some decades: that we are effectively a colony of Israel. And as colonies go, crucial decisions of the colonies are made in the colonizers' metropolitan capitals, in this case, of Zionist Israel. What sets this relationship apart from classical colonizer-colony ones, is that the colonizer is heavily subsidized by its colony's taxes – in this case a blank check without the consent of the tax payers. Moreover, in contrast to classic colonialism, America's total surrender to Jewish power, means that any war of liberation from colonialism has been effectively neutralized long before the first salvo has been fired. This mockery of a nation's "sovereignty" marks a historic first in the annals of the so-called international relations and power dispensation among sovereign nations. The Anglo-Zio Empire's takeover of American, and by extension Western countries is now complete. And all without a single shot being fired. It is surrender and capitulation in the absence of war. It has to be admitted that Jewish power has pulled off a uniquely historic and non-violent colonial project – with the absolute complicity of the colonized.

Clay Alexander , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:50 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago

Biden is just a hologram who will vanish shortly. They'll keep "Five Dollar Kamala" on ice till crypt keeper Joe exits at that time Miss Mudsville will start getting her orders from Mt. Zion in keeping with American tradition.

SteveF , says: November 3, 2020 at 6:54 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago
@Rich

You didn't fight 2 world wars, you came late to both and entered after everyone else did the heavy lifting. In neither case did your national industry and infrastructure suffer any damage, which allowed you to remain a rich country compared to devastated nations.
You deserve what Israel is doing to you for no other reason than that you are incapable of understanding history and consider yourselves exceptional like all the other failed empires of history.

Orville H. Larson , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:03 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago
@Anon

The Israeli attack on U.S.S. LIBERTY was a criminal act. A commissioned vessel of the United States Navy was attacked under conditions of flawless weather and calm seas. Earlier, Israeli planes had flown reconnaissance over the ship. They knew damned well she was American.

Admiral Thomas Moorer, USN was right. Also, to his dying day, he believed the attack on LIBERTY was deliberate.

AaronB , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:05 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago
@geokat62 hey have gotten the US to do for them what AIPAC can only dream about.

How AIPAC would love to get America stations tens of thousands of troops in Israel and commit to defending it so Israel can disband the IDF and build up its economy!

All Israel gets is a few billion thrown at it and guarantees about its "qualitative edge", while Vietnam gets 70,000 Americans dying for it, and Japan gets an actual defense commitment.

AIPAC are rank amateurs compared to the Japanese and Vietnamese, whose ability to infiltrate and manipulate Ameeica to their advantage is awe inspiring.

Lot , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:30 pm GMT • 2.9 hours ago
@Colin Wright I certainly hope Israel has enough agents/embedded computer viruses in Iran that it can "in a period of months"

destroying power plants, aluminum and chemical factories, a medical clinic and 7 ships at the port of Bushehr

But that strikes me as implausible, and your question indicates you may have agreed.

Not just "a power plant" and "a factory." Not just "damaged." But "destroyed" "power plant s " plural and "aluminum and chemical factories." While a chemical plant could be a small operation, aluminum mills are expensive and gigantic operations.

Orville H. Larson , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:36 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago
@Alfred

Yeah, he's a dangerous-looking goon.

Of course, why does NuttyYahoo need a bodyguard when he's visiting Knesset West–er, uh, the U.S. Congress? Surely he must know he's among friends?! . . .

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 7:42 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago
@AaronB

'Am I allowed to point out that if America is Israels slave, then surely America is Japan's slave?'

Am I allowed to point out that discrediting your false analogies got boring quite a while back?

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 7:45 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@Lot

' Not just "a power plant" and "a factory." Not just "damaged." But "destroyed" "power plants" plural and "aluminum and chemical factories." While a chemical plant could be a small operation, aluminum mills are expensive and gigantic operations.'

Nu? So what would an acceptable amount of aggression be?

Say, a couple of twin towers? How about something like the Liberty?

Would that be cool? Between friends?

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@AaronB

AIPAC are rank amateurs compared to the Japanese and Vietnamese

Hasbara translation: "It's the chicoms, goy!"

Druid , says: November 3, 2020 at 7:56 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago
@Bardon Kaldian

Because only an idiot would think that. Saudi is a joke run by a jokester family

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 7:57 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@AaronB n Japan.

So lessee. Japan is 146,000 square miles. The territory assigned to the Jewish state in 1947 was maybe 6000 square miles. Let's say 7300 square miles -- just to simplify the math. Besides, we can be afford to be generous Israel being such a valuable ally and all.

So you get one-twentieth the garrison Japan gets. That would be 3500 troops!

I wonder how many Americans are serving in the IDF right now? Maybe we can just reassign them.

Then you could disarm and withdraw from your Manchukuos et al right away. why wait?

We have a deal!

maybe after ten years or so we'll let you establish a self-defense force.

We'll see.

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:12 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago
@Colin Wright

Nu?

Thanks for introducing me to a Yiddish term I was unfamiliar with

https://forward.com/culture/12736/just-say-nu-01335/

AaronB , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:29 pm GMT • 1.9 hours ago
@geokat62

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

Anonymous [205] Disclaimer , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:33 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago

Meantime in Yankee Land Defund the police depts, jewish led riots, lootings, BLMANTIFA terrorism, and electoral FRAUD, cut Medicare payments, Lockdowns, WS bail outs, massive layoffs, small business bankcrupcies, foreclosures, delapidated failed cities Detroit, St Louis, Baltimore, decrepit national infrasestructure, massive illeteracy, rise of crime, resurgence of 3th world diseases, urban blight, 5more wars in the MEast Iran, Syria, and probably, open borders, H1A,Bs visas expansion, .Massive Chinese global expansion teh New Silk Road, Venezuelas oil, Bolvias (lithium), while Israel enjoys a record economic growth, and FISCAL surplus who is paying for that???

AaronB , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:36 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago
@Colin Wright Japan, S Korea, Taiwan, and Europe in the Cold War.

I actually kind of feel like a sucker – we fought all our bloody wars ourselves while somehow the devious Vietnamese and Japanese, South Koreans and Europeans, conned the Americans to actually die for them, or be prepared to, in large numbers.

And hey, you guys claim America fights our wars anyways, so we might as well actually make that a reality, as it is for so many other countries.

AIPAC is pretty pathetic come to think of it. We're getting the worst deal America has given any of its liberal democratic allies.

Ann T. Zemitik , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:37 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago

Wow, an unprecedented 25th term for Israel! That's quite an accomplishment!

Majority of One , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:40 pm GMT • 1.7 hours ago
@Orville H. Larson g constitutionally valid currency as against their "Green Frog-Skin" Monopoly money printed and owned by the bankster-owned "Federal" Reserve Bank.

According to a source I recently accessed, the Rothschilds may well have been behind the assassinations of 6 previous presidents and an attempted hit on the greatest enemy of privately owned central banks, Andrew Jackson.

The rotting/rotten bodies of both McCains and LBJ, should be disinterred and hanged by their skeletal necks on the Capital Mall as examples (even post-mortem) of the fate of traitors to the Republic and its sovereign power, WE THE PEOPLE.

vot tak , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:42 pm GMT • 1.7 hours ago

"A bill, the so-called "U.S.-Israel Common Defense Authorization Act," is making its way through the House of Representatives and will authorize the provision of U.S. manufactured bunker buster bombs to Israel. As the bombs would only be useful in Israel's neighborhood to bomb hardened sites in Iran, the message being sent is obvious. The Massive Ordnance Penetrator weighs 30,000 pounds and is capable of destroying targets located deep underground. Oddly, Israel doesn't have a plane capable of carrying that weight so the presumption is that the White House will also have to provide the bomber. The bill is co-sponsored by two leading Israel firsters in Congress Democrat Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey and Republican Brian Mast of Florida."

The intriguing part about this is israel lacking a bomber capable of carrying the bomb. Will the b-21 in development be capable of carrying these bombs? Can the b-2? I have not looked into it, but as this type of bomb is dropped from high altitude, I believe, these low flying "stealth" types would probably be unsuitable platforms. That leaves old b-52s and b-1s. Both of these would require the israelis controlling the air space they are used in, as well as the AD to have been neutralized.

Regarding target countries, I'm sure the israelis wouldn't limit their use to a war against Iran, but would drop them on anyone. Especially Gazans. Doubtful the israelis would go to war against Iran, since they have usa/nato available for that role. If one notices, the israelis don't really fight wars any more, they have the colonials do that for them.

"It reportedly has approached the Pentagon seeking to buy the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, a single-seat, twin-engine, all-weather stealth tactical fighter aircraft that was originally developed for the United States Air Force (USAF). Its stealth capability, top speed, maneuverability combined with advanced air-to-air and air-to-ground weapon systems, makes it the best air superiority fighter in the world."

The f-22 is not "the best air superiority fighter in the world." That's pindo exceptionalism mythology at work. Its capabilities were grossly exaggerated and its real measure is why the aircraft was taken out of production early. Well before the scheduled full production run was complete. Had this aircraft actually been what the propagandists claimed, it would still be in production today, despite it's high cost. Also the f-22 is less up to date than the f-35, for example, with regard to electronics.

It is too late to restart production, so any given to israel would be from the existing stock. There are only about 180 of these built, about enough for 6-8 squadrons (?), any given to israel would probably leave the usa with too few for its own, now minimal, requirements for the plane. The few given to israel would not improve israel's military much, while require a disproportionate effort of upkeep to their net worth.

On the other hand, maybe israel wants all the f-22s, while it awaits the u.s. 6th gen to be developed (in something like 20 years ), and will leave its american colony with just the f-35. I can see their likudite trump regime pushing that through.

"In truth, the United States has become Israel's bitch"

Yup. And under the trump regime the israelis this bitch services are the likudites, the netanyahoos and even more bug-eyed extreme. Decent article, btw, on the israeli control of its american colony.

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 8:43 pm GMT • 1.7 hours ago
@AaronB

'Am I allowed to point out that if America is Israels slave, then surely America is Japan's slave?

'

But wait.

Does this also mean we get to nuke Tel Aviv, like Hiroshima or something?

I mean, to what extent do you wish to apply this analogy, Aaron?

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 8:49 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago
@Orville H. Larson

' Admiral Thomas Moorer, USN was right. Also, to his dying day, he believed the attack on LIBERTY was deliberate.'

There's also Dean Rusk, the US Secretary of State at the time:

' But I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."'

Notsofast , says: November 3, 2020 at 8:51 pm GMT • 1.5 hours ago
@RobinG

How is it ok for a person of jewish heritage to make fun of slavs but not ok for people of slavic heritage to make fun of jews? Cohen is now a "serious actor"with his role as the "hero" mossad mole of the same name who inflitraited the syrian govt. (and got what he deserved for it).

Colin Wright , says: Website November 3, 2020 at 8:58 pm GMT • 1.4 hours ago
@AaronB

' I actually kind of feel like a sucker – we fought all our bloody wars ourselves while somehow the devious Vietnamese and Japanese, South Koreans and Europeans, conned the Americans to actually die for them, or be prepared to, in large numbers '

Only Aaron could transmogrify our having fought World War Two into having fought it 'for' Japan. I'm not sure the Japanese are suitably appreciative. I mean, they're reasonably polite about it and all, but

Anyway, Israel hasn't fought a war on her own since 1948. We've been over that.

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:14 pm GMT • 1.2 hours ago

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nsa , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:24 pm GMT • 59 minutes ago

Profiles In Courage Department. In March 2015 the visiting Izzy PM spoke before the U.S.Congress. Of course, the speech ended with a raucous Standing Ovation in which the pols competed with each other as to who could display the most ecstatic cheering possible. However, jew spotters noticed one pol, Rand Paul, not clapping and cheering enthusiastically enough, and took him to task in the kept media for displaying less than orgasmic approval of the visiting Izzy PM. The courageous senator defended himself by loudly exclaiming to anyone who would listen: "I have given him over 50 standing ovations".

geokat62 , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:29 pm GMT • 54 minutes ago

It appears this Jerusalem Post tweet supports Phil's central thesis

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Z-man , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:32 pm GMT • 51 minutes ago
@FLgeezer

..and he's black. Imagine if he was white, he's be in jail already or lose his wife, family, his house or something to that effect.

Lot , says: November 3, 2020 at 9:32 pm GMT • 51 minutes ago
@Colin Wright

"Nu? So what would an acceptable amount of aggression be?'

Like I said, I would be pleasantly surprised if PG's claim were true. But it is implausible and its "source" is an un-sourced claim at a nutball website.

[Nov 03, 2020] The secret of friendliness

Nov 03, 2020 | www.rt.com

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Biden/Harris will be super friendly to Russia. All Russia has to do is bribe them.

CrazyJoe2 52 minutes ago

Harris & Co. would be much better for Russia. All Russia has to do is outbid China. The democrat party has no loyalty to country.

[Nov 03, 2020] Weaponising Human Rights- Can the Magnitsky Act deny due process- – Arena

Nov 03, 2020 | arena.org.au

WEAPONISING HUMAN RIGHTS: CAN THE MAGNITSKY ACT DENY DUE PROCESS?

William Browder at US senate hearing (screenshot from video)

ARENA ONLINE

LUCY KOMISAR

29 OCT 2020

The Australian parliament seems about to approve a 'human rights' law that would establish the ability to exert arbitrary state power over individuals in other countries who have been accused of human rights violations. Ironically, this law gives the accused no day in court, and no chance to see charges or evidence, confront accusers, present a defence or have a ruling made by an authority other than the prosecution.

The law is called a Magnitsky Act. Kimberley Kitching, a Labor senator from Victoria, has given notice that she will introduce the bill in December. If it's like the other Magnitsky Acts introduced in half a dozen countries, including the United States and the United Kingdom, it will itself violate human rights when it is weaponised to target international adversaries. How did Australia come to consider a law that violates human rights? And how does it weaponise 'human rights' to target international adversaries? How come it isn't being critically questioned by the media? How come it enjoys bipartisan support ? Here is the backstory Australians don't know. I call it the Browder Hoax.

In 1998 William Browder, an American investor, gave up his passport to become British, which put him on the US Internal Revenue Service list of ' tax expatriates ', as the United Kingdom, unlike the United States, doesn't tax profits on offshore holdings. This was convenient because from the mid-1990s he invested in Russian shares, becoming, he says, the largest foreign holder of Russian stocks. The shares were moved offshore to tax-free British Virgin Island shells .

In a 2007 scam involving collusive lawsuits ('You cheated me, you must pay'; 'Yes, I agree, I will pay'), Browder's shell companies claimed to the Russian Treasury that they had to pay out all their 2006 profits and requested refunds of all taxes paid in 2006: $230 million. This was known as the tax-refund fraud.

The victim of the scam was the Russian Treasury, though Browder first lied to the Financial Times that his companies had been targeted by crooked Russian officials who were after the companies' assets. This, however, was rather unlikely, as the companies themselves were participants in the scam, and Browder later admitted in a US federal court deposition that his companies had no assets to go after.

Browder would then claim that the shells were stolen by an unrelated criminal operation, but evidence raises questions about that. His trustee, HSBC (as confirmed by the HSBC comptroller in US federal court) , said in July 2007 that it needed $7 million for legal fees to recover stolen companies, but Browder wrote in his book he didn't know that they were stolen till October of that year.

Browder declares that his 'lawyer' Sergei Magnitsky, hired in 2007 (and really his accountant since 1997), discovered the scam and was jailed because of it, and then beaten to death when he wouldn't recant. However, Browder never provided evidence of this, and neither do Magnitsky's pre-arrest testimon i es , which list him as an auditor. In fact, the scam was first revealed in April 2008 by a Russian, Rimma Starova , the figurehead director of a shell company that took over the companies, and reported in July by the New York Times and the Russian paper Vedomosti . Magnitsky didn't allude to it in testimony until October.

Magnitsky was named as a fraud collaborator by the scam's operative, Viktor Markelov, in the Russian trial that sent Markelov to prison.

In fact, the whole Magnitsky hoax was invented two years after the accountant's 2009 death (due to terrible prison medical care) when Browder needed