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2. No election results should be certified until a complete audit of the Dominion machine tallies is made.

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[Jul 23, 2021] Pennsylvania Decertifies County's Voting System, Cites Violation Of Election Code

So the voting system should be treated as a black box fully controlled by Dominion staff, right? That's an interesting turn of the events.
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Authored by Mimi Nguyen Ly via The Epoch Times,

Pennsylvania 's top election official has decertified the voting system of rural Fulton County for future elections, saying that an election assessment by a third party had violated the Keystone State's election code, according to a release on Wednesday.

Acting Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid, an appointee of Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf, informed the Fulton County Board of Elections that she "did not arrive at this decision lightly."

Wake Technology Services Inc. (Wake TSI), a software company based in West Chester, Pennsylvania, had carried out an election assessment that involved its workers visiting Fulton County in December 2020 and in early February.

The company in May released a report that concluded the election was "well-run" and did not indicate any signs of fraud in Fulton County. However, five "issues of note" were uncovered , three of which are related to Dominion Voting Systems , whose electronic voting system was used in the county for the 2020 election.

"While these may seem minor, the impact on an election can be huge," Wake TSI said of the five issues. At the time, Dominion disputed the report's findings.

The Pennsylvania Department of State said in a statement on Wednesday that Wake TSI's access to the Fulton County's voting system "undermined the chain of custody requirements and strict access limitations necessary to prevent both intentional and inadvertent tampering with electronic voting systems."

It added that the "unauthorized access" prevents the vendor -- Dominion -- from "affirming that the system continues to meet state and federal certification standards."

Fulton county officials had allowed Wake TSI to "access certain key components of its certified system, including the county's election database, results files, and Windows systems logs," and to "use a system imaging tool to take complete hard drive images of these computers and other digital equipment," the department noted.

"These actions were taken in a manner that was not transparent," Degraffenreid said in her letter to Fulton County officials on Tuesday. She said the access given to Wake TSI has caused Fulton County's voting system to be "compromised," and that neither the county, state officials, nor Dominion could now "verify that the impacted components of Fulton County's leased voting system are safe to use in future elections."

"I have no other choice but to decertify the use of Fulton County's leased Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5A voting system last used in the November 2020 election," Degraffenreid wrote.

The Fulton County Board of Elections and Wake TSI did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The Pennsylvania Department of State previously said that a risk-limiting audit of the 2020 election has confirmed the state's election results.

The Pennsylvania Capital-Star reported that Fulton County needed to pay $25,000 to lease new equipment for its municipal elections in May, because Dominion refused to let the county use the voting machines that Wake TSI had accessed. According to the outlet, Dominion told the county that it violated its contract in letting a unaccredited and non-certified company inspect the machines.

Wake TSI's assessment in Fulton County was "set" by Pennsylvania Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican, according to a Dec. 31, 2020 document signed by the company that was obtained and published by the Arizona Mirror and The Washington Post. Wake TSI said in its report that Mastriano and Pennsylvania Sen. Judy Ward, also a Republican, "were aware of our efforts."

The document also said that Wake TSI was "contracted to Defending the Republic," a nonprofit founded by lawyer Sidney Powell, who has alleged that widespread fraud occurred in the 2020 election.

Mastriano earlier this month issued letters to York, Tioga, and Philadelphia counties requesting that they voluntarily submit information and materials by July 31, to enable what he calls a "forensic investigation" of the 2020 and 2021 elections. He told The Epoch Times that he seeks for an investigation that would be "a big deep dive, like we saw in Arizona, but even deeper."

Wake TSI was also involved in the election audit still underway in Arizona's Maricopa County up until its contract expired in May. The audit in Maricopa County was ordered by the Arizona state Senate's Republican majority. Dominion machines in Maricopa County will also be replaced .

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, said the machines were not tampered with during the audit and questioned the Board of Supervisors' decision to get new machines.

"If their experts can't prove the machines have not been tampered with, then how does the [Secretary of State's office] or County Elections certify the machines before every audit to make sure the machines haven't been tampered with?" she asked in June.

[Jul 16, 2021] Arizona Election Audit- Maricopa County Stonewalling - Will Not Turn Over Routers, Chain Of Custody, Ballot Images As Discrep

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Update (1352ET): Oddly, right as Senate President Karen Fann suggested that auditors may not be able to determine whether a ballot had been duplicated once, or ten times, YouTube pulled the feed we had originally embedded , claiming it violated their Terms of Service.

An alternate stream has been embedded below.

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The Arizona Senate is holding a public briefing with leaders of the ongoing election audit authorized by Senate President Karen Fann.

Fann is joined by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Peterson, along with Senate audit liaison Ken Bennett and the leaders of two of the vendors hired to conduct the audit, Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan and CyFIR founder Ben Cotton, according to KTAR .


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Cyber Ninjas was hired as lead contractor for the audit, which started April 23 after the Senate won a legal battle with Maricopa County for access to election equipment and approximately 2.1 million ballots from the November 2020 general election in metro Phoenix.

Fann told KTAR News 92.3 FM's The Mike Broomhead Show on Tuesday that the number ballots tallied during the audit didn't match the total documented by Maricopa County, but she didn't know how far off the counts were.

Most audit operations have wrapped up, but counting machines are being used to recheck of the total number of ballots, a process that was expected to continue into next week.

Audit officials have said a final report was expected to be released in late July or August.

The U.S. House Oversight and Reform Committee sent Logan a letter Wednesday requesting documentation about Cyber Ninjas' role in the audit, funding and possible connections to former President Donald Trump or his surrogates.

Cyber Ninjas had no previous experience conducting election audits. Fann's selection of the Florida-based firm's $150,000 bid quickly drew scrutiny over Logan's deleted Twitter account, which had activity supporting unfounded election conspiracy theories.

The low bid doesn't cover the cost of the operation, expected to be in the millions, and fundraising has been taking place in the name of the audit.

Fann has said the aim of the process is to restore faith in the election system and find ways to improve Arizona's voting laws, not to reverse the result of the election.

However, many Trump supporters see it as a step toward invalidating President Joe Biden's victory and returning Trump to office.

[May 14, 2021] Dominion, Maricopa County Rebuff Arizona Senate's Attempt To Get Election Machine Passwords - ZeroHedge

May 14, 2021 |

Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

Dominion Voting Systems and Maricopa County officials are refusing to hand over passwords for election machines to auditors in Arizona.

Contractors working for Cyber Ninjas, which was hired by the Arizona Senate, examine and recount ballots from the 2020 general election at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, Ariz., on May 1, 2021. (Courtney Pedroza/Getty Images)

Dominion said in a statement to news outlets on Thursday that it would comply with the audit, but Cyber Ninjas, the firm hired by the Arizona Senate to conduct it along with three other companies, is not accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

" Releasing Dominion's intellectual property to an unaccredited, biased, and plainly unreliable actor such as Cyber Ninjas would be reckless, causing irreparable damage to the commercial interests of the company and the election security interests of the country ," Dominion said. "No company should be compelled to participate in such an irresponsible act."

Cyber Ninjas did not respond to a request for comment.

Maricopa County officials previously said that they did not have passwords to access administrative functions on Dominion Voting Systems machines that were used to scan ballots during the election, according to the Senate's audit liaison, former Republican Secretary of State Ken Bennett.

"They've told us that they don't have that second password, or that they've given us all the passwords they have," Bennett told One America News at the site of the audit in Phoenix last week.

The county is also withholding routers from auditors , claiming security concerns.

Both routers or router images and access to election machines were part of the materials the state Senate subpoenaed late last year. A judge in February ruled that the subpoenas were valid and should be obeyed.

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, recently threatened to subpoena county officials if they didn't stop their noncompliance with the subpoenas, but backed off the threat in a letter on May 12.

Instead, she asked Maricopa County Board of Supervisors Chairman Jack Sellers, also a Republican, to cooperate voluntarily by attending an upcoming meeting at the state Capitol to go over the audit issues.

Fann said auditors have found discrepancies in the ballot count, including one batch that was supposed to be 200 but only numbered 165. She also said the audit teams found an entire database directory from an election machine had been deleted, and that the main database for the election management system software was not located anywhere on the machine, suggesting that the main database for all data related to the 2020 election had been removed.

Sellers on Thursday indicated he would not attend the meeting and disputed the allegations.

Deleting files off the server "would be a crime -- and it is not true," he said.

"After reviewing the letter with County election and IT experts, I can say that the allegations are false and ill-informed. Moreover, the claim that our employees deleted election files and destroyed evidence is outrageous, completely baseless, and beneath the dignity of the Arizona Senate," he added, calling for an immediate retraction of statements senators and their liaison team made on social media and to the press.

The Board of Supervisors, which held a closed-door emergency meeting on Friday, plans on holding a public meeting on Monday to address the matter.

Fann, an Arizona Senate Republican Caucus spokeswoman, and the liaison team did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Maricopa County ballots cast in the 2020 general election are examined and recounted by contractors working for Florida-based company, Cyber Ninjas, at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, Ariz., on May 6, 2021. (Matt York/Pool/AP Photo) Auditors Pack Up as Senate Signs Lease to Extend Audit

Auditors, meanwhile, began packing up on Thursday evening because the audit will take a break due to scheduling conflicts.

The audit has been taking place at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum on the state fairgrounds in Phoenix. High school graduations are scheduled to take place at the building beginning May 15.

Hand counting stopped at 7 p.m. on Thursday and workers began collapsing tables and preparing to move ballots to another location.

About 500,000 of the nearly 2.1 million ballots cast in Maricopa County in the 2020 election have been counted in the audit, according to Bennett.

The Arizona Senate signed an extension to their original agreement that allows auditors to store materials in the Wesley Bolin Building, which is also on the state fairgrounds, from May 12 to May 23.

The approximately 19,000-square foot building has a large open floor plan and two large roll-up doors, according to the Arizona State Fair website.

"Due to temperatures during the summer months, this building is not recommended for use between May through September," the site states.

Bennett told The Epoch Times in a previous interview that the materials will be secure and that the site at which they'll be stored can be tracked online via 24-hour streaming, just like the audit itself.

" There's no deadline for the audit ," Bennett said. " The goal is not speed; the goal is accuracy and completeness. "

The audit teams can resume occupancy of the coliseum on May 23 and use it until June 30, according to a copy of the extended agreement obtained by The Epoch Times .

The original scope of work document from Cyber Ninjas said reviewing voter registration and votes case would take approximately 20 days and that work would be conducted remotely. The vote counting phase would take about 20 more days, it said, while the electronic voting system phase would take some 35 days.

But all three of those phases could be carried out simultaneously, according to the firm. An additional week was said to be required after completing everything else to finalize reporting.

The audit started on April 23.

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[May 06, 2021] Maricopa County Defies Subpoena, Won't Release Hardware For Election Audit Over 'Security Risk'

May 06, 2021 |

Update (1400ET) : Wow, something must be really worrying Democrats?

There appears to be a full court press effort to delay and defer any and every effort to audit Maricopa County's election results. The Biden justice department added to pressure from Arizona's chief elections officer (a Democrat) and the Arizona Democratic Party, and now, Daniel Payne at reports that officials in Arizona's Maricopa County are withholding materials subpoenaed by the state legislature as part of its audit of the county's 2020 election , claiming that surrendering them would constitute a security risk for both law enforcement and federal agencies.

A Monday letter sent from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office to Ken Bennett, the former Arizona secretary of state and the liaison between the state Senate and the auditors, said the county had elected not to turn over "several routers" requested by the legislature due to an alleged "significant security risk to law enforcement data utilized by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office as well as numerous federal agencies."

Given that President Biden is the most popular president ever and we know from the mainstream media that there was no, none, zip, nada, election fraud anywhere in America, why are Democrats so aggressively interfering in the process of auditing the county's election?

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Update (1300ET): Shortly after Arizona's top elections officer raised concerns about the Maricopa County election audit process, the Biden Department of Justice piled on, expressing concern about ballot security and potential voter intimidation.

As AP reports, in a letter to GOP Senate President Karen Fann, the head of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division said the Senate's farming out of 2.1 million ballots from the state's most populous county to a contractor may run afoul of federal law requiring ballots to remain in the control of elections officials for 22 months.

And Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Pamela S. Karlan said that the Senate contractor's plans to directly contact voters could amount to illegal voter intimidation.

"Past experience with similar investigative efforts around the country has raised concerns that they can be directed at minority voters, which potentially can implicate the anti-intimidation prohibitions of the Voting Rights Act," Karlan wrote.

"Such investigative efforts can have a significant intimidating effect on qualified voters that can deter them from seeking to vote in the future."

So, Democrats play the race-card again?

"We are very concerned that the auditors are engaged in ongoing and imminent violations of federal voting and election laws," said the letter sent by the Brennan Center for Justice, the Leadership Conference and Protect Democracy.

Why are they so worried? They already told America there was no fraud?

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As The Epoch Times' Mimi Nguyen Ly detailed earlier, Arizona's top elections officer Katie Hobbs on Wednesday alleged multiple points of concern regarding the forensic audit of the 2020 presidential election currently underway in Maricopa County .

In a letter ( pdf ) to former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, a Republican who is the state Senate's liaison for the audit, Hobbs outlined 13 points of concern over how the audit is being run. This included seven points of concern over counting procedures that the state Senate and audit contractor Cyber Ninjas disclosed, as well as six points of concern over what her observers saw at the audit site.

Under terms of a lawsuit settlement filed on Wednesday, defendants Bennett, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, and the lead auditor, Florida-based Cyber Ninjas have 48 hours to respond to Hobbs' concerns. If the concerns are not addressed, Hobbs could take them back to court for breach of contract.

The audit began on April 23 and continues at Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, a venue the auditors have booked and secured until May 14.

Hobbs, a Democrat, alleged that the procedures governing the audit do not ensure accuracy, security, and transparency.

"I'm not sure what compelled you to oversee this audit, but I'd like to assume you took this role with the best of intentions," she told Bennett in the letter.

"It is those intentions I appeal to now: either do it right, or don't do it at all."

The Arizona Democratic Party filed a last-minute lawsuit against state Senate leadership to try to stop the audit from going ahead but their bid to immediately halt it was rebuffed by a judge. The settlement means the case has concluded.

"The settlement in ADP v Fann requires the Senate to have procedures to protect our ballots, election equipment, and data. Today, I put the Senate on notice that security shortfalls remain and must be addressed under the agreement," Hobbs said in a statement.

The official Twitter account for the audit, run by Bennet's team, said late on Wednesday that Hobbs "continues to make baseless claimes [sic] about this forensic audit but has never led an election audit in her entire career."

The message declared, "The audit continues!"

The group furthermore encouraged Twitter users to retweet if they think audits are a state right. Another statement released later on Wednesday reads:

"Democrat [Secretary of State Katie Hobbs] who does not support election audits or transparency now wants the Federal Government to get involved in the Arizona Senate forensic audit. Arizona has the authority to conduct this audit without interference from the Feds!"

Bennett did not immediately respond to a request for comment over the contents of Hobbs' letter.

He told the Arizona Capitol Times late Wednesday of Hobbs' concerns, "I think that most of the things in her letter are completely unfounded . And the ones that have a little bit of legitimacy can be dealt with pretty easily."

Bennett did not elaborate as to what concerns would fall into the latter category.

Real-time camera footage of Maricopa County's large-scale audit of the 2020 election, Maricopa County, Ariz. (Screenshot/The Epoch Times)

Among the seven concerns based on the disclosed procedures, Hobbs alleged that there were "no procedures for hiring qualified, unbiased counters." She noted that former State Representative Anthony Kern, a Republican, has been among the people counting the ballots in the audit.

Kern's name is listed on the ballot "not only as a candidate for State Representative but as a Presidential Elector -- the exact race for which he is counting," Hobbs wrote, adding, "While these facts would be disqualifying in any professional recount or audit, unfortunately, there are additional reasons why Mr. Kern is not trustworthy to fulfill this role."

Hobbs in her letter also took aim at a number of procedures that she said "appear better suited for chasing conspiracy theories than as a part of a professional audit," which included using UV lights to search for watermarks, measuring the thickness of ballots, searching for folds in ballots, and looking at ballots under a microscope.

She said these measures are "completely unnecessary steps if the goal of the audit is to validate the election results."

She also questioned how tally sheets from ballot counters would be added up, and noted that her office had "received no real explanation" over the matter "other than that an accounting firm will handle it later."

"This is not transparency. Further, it appears that a single person enters the totals from the tally sheets into an electronic spreadsheet, leaving wide open the opportunity for error, inadvertent or otherwise," she wrote. "At minimum, a bipartisan team of at least two individuals should aggregate the tally sheets or otherwise confirm that data is entered accurately for aggregation."

In addition to concerns over the disclosed procedures, Hobbs alleged in her letter that observers from her office have seen a number of problems, which include inadequate physical security of ballots, unattended computers at the forensic analysis tables, constantly changing rules in the audit procedures since the beginning of the audit, and "frequent violations" of the procedures that do exist.

The Arizona Republican-led Senate previously hired four out-of-state firms to carry out the audit, which are Wake Technology Services, CyFIR, Digital Discovery, and Cyber Ninjas.

The state Senate has said that the " broad and detailed " audit "will validate every area of the voting process" and includes, but is not limited to, scanning all the ballots, a full hand recount, auditing the voter registration and votes cast, the vote counts, and the electronic voting system. This includes examining some 2.1 million ballots, as well as voting equipment that includes 385 tabulators.

Bennett told The Epoch Times on Monday that the audit may last longer than originally planned. An analysis of the equipment used in the 2020 election was completed over the weekend, but reviewing other materials will need more time, he said.

President Joe Biden was the first Democratic presidential nominee to win Maricopa County in decades.

[Apr 26, 2021] Now, this should be interesting

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" as a condition, the judge insisted that the Dems post a $1 million bond to cover potential costs incurred as a consequence of the delayed recount. And, by the afternoon, the outlet said, the state party had indicated it wouldn't do so.

That cleared the way for the recount to go on as planned.

Earlier this week, Senate Republicans exercised a subpoena to move voting equipment and ballots from county storage to the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum, where they have said a team will spend a month doing a hand recount and forensic audit.

According to the Post, Senate leaders have said the process is intended only to explore ways to improve future elections, not to cast doubt on Biden's win by more than 10,000 Arizona votes over Trump.

But the recount has been slammed by Dems and other critics and voting rights advocates as lacking proper oversight and having potential to perpetuate baseless claims of an illegitimate election outcome.

Trump insisted for weeks following the vote that he'd been defeated only because of rampant, systemic fraud. He filed numerous lawsuits, but they gained no traction ; Biden was sworn in, as scheduled, on Jan. 20.

Comment: "but they gained no traction" Oh BS! The damned judges and boards would not hear the evidence! The worst was SCOTUS who would not hear Texas' suit against Pennsylvania in what was a matter of Original Jurisdiction for SCOTUS, i.e., a dispute between states as sovereign entities.

The result of this re-count will be interesting. pl

  1. Sam says: April 25, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    The question is if they're just gonna count the ballots or first verify that the ballot is valid by comparing signature to voter roll if it is a Mail-in ballot? If the latter what are the criteria to verify signature compliance? Reply

    • Avatar Deap says: April 25, 2021 at 8:19 pm

      Looks like they will be using special scanners, ala Jovan Pulitzer's pattern detection technology, to determine the initial validity of the ballot itself- scanning for water marks, creases and machine-made markings.

      This comes from someone who observed what looked like this sort of equipment was present on a table, from the in-house surveillance cameras. Not confirmed.

      Since the goal is surveying for in inherent voting procedure flaws that would undermine any election integrity, this would be a reasonable up front physical ballot evaluation to make.

      How can you mail in a ballot that has no creases? Put it in a large envelope is one way – perfectly valid. Thousands of them – all for one candidate? All with the exact same down ballot choices?

      No watermarks – someone took the money for himself and hired the cheapest bidder to print up non-water marked ballots and sent them out as "official" – and there was no double checking?

      Machine printed ballots, filled out at home. Handicap accommodations? How many ways to Sunday can phony ballots be added into the final count. How may ways to Sunday ballot anommolies can finally be explained.

      How to reverse engineer as many possible methods of voting fraud as can be speculated. Everyone wins in this case, even if any one favored candidate does not win the final new vote count in the long run.

      Look for loop holes, build in every imaginable level of fraud prevention. We can settle for nothing less. But first we have to know all the ways to Sunday voting fraud can possibly take place. Democrats should be joining in this speculation – surely Stacey Abrams would want to know more about her "stolen" Georgia governors race election. She might have been on to this a lot earlier than 2020. Reply

    • Avatar JohninMK says: April 26, 2021 at 7:18 am

      They are doing a lot more than just count the ballots, its going to take them a month. I don't know but I assume, as everything else is being double checked, that signatures are being validated against those previously held on file.

      Longer answer below. Reply

  2. Avatar Eric Newhill says: April 25, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    AZ still has enough deplorables in the population that the Governor and a lot of the state legislature retains the will to fight the woke bolshies. AZ recently joined other states in a commitment to defy the federal government on whatever attacks they make on the second amendment.

    Pretty sure that if the recount/audit shows that Trump actually won AZ, we are all going to hear about it. That fact would lend support to the state fighting back against Washington (DC?) in whatever manner the state sees appropriate. Reply

  3. Avatar Antoinetta III says: April 25, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    Will we be able to trust the results of this re-count any more than we can trust the outcome of the election? Reply

    • Avatar English Outsider says: April 25, 2021 at 7:33 pm

      I can no longer remember whether Arizona was one of the States where the evidence was destroyed. Hope not. Reply

    • Avatar Deap says: April 25, 2021 at 8:25 pm

      Does that not answer your own question? How indeed does one know there is a valid vote count. Looks like a lot more failsafe mechanisms need to be put in place. This new survey will be a good place to get started adding deeper transparency to the process. Continuing to use vote counting systems that cannot be made transparent is one way not to ensure vote count integrity.

      A couple of layers that need a lot more transparency: valid registration; valid ballots; valid counting; valid reporting. . Reply

    • Avatar JohninMK says: April 26, 2021 at 7:14 am

      I think the answer to that question is yes.

      For a start it is being done under the unblinking gaze of 9 CCTV always online to the Internet.

      Every aspect of the votes is being checked from signatures to mail in ballot folds, visually and with UV. All ballets sent for manual intervention in November are being digitally rechecked.

      The hardware and its firmware, comms links and associated software is also being pulled apart.

      On top of that electors are going to be interviewed to double check that what they thought they voted was recorded. The external teams will also investigate the large number of ballots from single addresses.

      AZ was won with a majority of under 12,000 so if failed votes over that are found all kinds of issues arise. This is no doubt with the Democrats have a very large crack team of lawyers on the job. As an example, in the court case today they have apparently forced the recusal of the current judge by appointing an attorney who was once one of his interns. Using every trick in the book. Reply

  4. Avatar SAC Brat says: April 25, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    A fun part of the new state voting law in Georgia is that the state can take over voting in counties that have shown to have problems with running elections. Some counties have always had problems even when the state has rules for the number of ballot marking devices per eligible voters to prevent long lines. Some counties often have interruptions in their counting. Another function of the law is to make ballot drop off boxes more secure.

    I suspect a lot of the noise against the Georgia law is that the state will take away control of some of the polling from the local political machines and prevent unfolded mail-in ballots from being counted. Reply

    • Avatar akaPatience says: April 26, 2021 at 1:03 am

      My husband has become woke in recent years. I still love him, but don't get me started Anyway, yesterday I heard pundits on either MSNBC or CNN (of course his main sources of news) RANTING about how, due to the new GA voting laws, that no one's allowed to offer food and drink to people waiting to vote, and that it'll harm minorities . Why, they could get sick or even die of thirst or starvation don't you know! And this will discourage them from voting!

      As has become typical and customary among far too many leftists, this RACIST claim presumes that people of color can't bring a bottle of water or snack along with them if they anticipate a long wait at the polls. I say it's racist because it infers white people are smart and conscientious enough to have a contingency plan and take care of themselves, but not minorities. The same goes for providing acceptable ID at the polls, or returning absentee ballots in a timely manner, etc., etc. SMFH Reply

  5. Avatar mcohen says: April 25, 2021 at 7:07 pm

    Has become Useless Reply

  6. Avatar robt willmann says: April 26, 2021 at 9:39 am

    The audit is to be at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, for Maricopa County, Arizona. Nine cameras are set up inside at a distance that are broadcast live over the Internet– Reply

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[Feb 03, 2021] Pennsylvania official at center of Trump election concerns resigns

Feb 03, 2021 |

The Pennsylvania secretary of state who emerged as a villain to supporters of former President Donald Trump said Monday she will resign for failing to comply with an unrelated state election law.

Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat, will leave office on Feb. 5. Her office botched the handling of a state constitutional amendment that would allow more sexual abuse victims to sue their alleged abusers.

In a statement, she said, "I've always believed that accountability and leadership must be a cornerstone of public service. While I only became aware of the mistake last week, and immediately took steps to alert the administration to the error, I accept the responsibility on behalf of the department."

Pennsylvania law requires that proposed amendments pass the state legislature twice. The secretary of state's office must publicize the proposed amendment in two newspapers in each of the state's 67 counties ahead of the election between votes, which her office failed to do.

Gov. Tom Wolf, also a Democrat, announced Boockvar's resignation in a press release that stressed the issue was separate from the presidential election.

"This change at the Department of State has nothing to do with the administration of the 2020 election, which was fair and accurate," Wolf said .

[Jan 24, 2021] DATA EXPERT- 200,000 Pennsylvania Ballots Were Modified After Election - A Sampling of 100,000 Arizona Ballots Show 'Material

Jan 24, 2021 |

There was fraud everywhere in the 2020 election and to not address this is to destroy the future of our children while stomping on the graves of those who died for this country.

We've pointed out literally a million invalid ballots which were included in the 'certified' results in the 2020 election in three states alone:

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Now today, we have a copy of the letter from data analyst Bobby Piton to the Arizona legislature in December. Remember, Piton testified in front of the Arizona legislature about the blatant fraud in that state and bet his life on the results.

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Today can report on a letter Piton sent to the Arizona legislature in December. He pointed out that more that 50% of a sample of 1,000 voters in the 2020 election were not real people. The sample came from a list of 100,000 voters in the 2020 election in Arizona.

Pitton also notes that 200,000 Pennsylvania ballots were edited the day after the election. The letter from Bobby Piton to the Arizona legislature is below:

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The Arizona legislature did pass a motion to forensically audit the votes in Maricopa County, the most populous county in the state which includes Phoenix. But now the Board of Supervisors are attempting to prevent a 'real' audit from the likes of Jovan Hutton Pulitzer and instead have their choice of auditor perform the audit.

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The Mirror
• 4 hours ago

Personally I don't care what political side one is on..... this IS about the process !
If the corruption of the process is NOT fixed, then this Country IS dead !

Coherent Order The Mirror • 4 hours ago ,

That is why we need to keep protesting in the millions without the Trump and MAGA hats. Do not associate with any group and protest as everyday average Jane and Joe Americans - that way the tyrants cannot label us to any affiliation.

George Coherent Order • 4 hours ago • edited ,

Wrong they will still label us according to race and they will still replace us with newly minted citizens

Back from the dead George • 4 hours ago ,

Identity politics is segregation.

Emron McCabe Back from the dead • 3 hours ago • edited ,

The kkk has been resurrected and is operating in full swing by the left. Everyone the left appears to embrace from those with deviant sexual behavior to those of certain races are pawns. They use them to advance their totalitarian agenda. Once the commiecraps get what they want, the pawns will be eliminated.

blacknoon Coherent Order • 3 hours ago ,

Unorganized protest will never even get out the front door. You must have leadership to direct people's efforts. War doesn't always means military and firearms. Weapons can be simply protest signs, advertisements on tv and online, mass mailings, phone calls, supplies is money to make the signs, to purchase the ads, tools and equipment to make protest signs, food, water, car pools to get those who can't or don't have the means to travel and reduce over all cost. Business is war, and war is business.

Ask any union boss about strikes and all the planning that goes into one. You just don't show up one day and get pissed off and tell the boss hey I'm going on strike and hope others will just get fed up like you and walk off. Nope that almost never happens.

There is always talk, planning, defining of goals and so on. Even boycotts don't work unless there is a clearly defining means of what is the purpose of the boycotts and what it takes to end it. Unified effort gets noticed and produces results. Random effort isn't even noticed by anyone. So go ahead and do your own independent protest and let's see how far you get. Now you get tens of thousands to millions of people to go along with you, now you get CHANGE. Even in Hong Kong, it's a quagmire. No good organized protesting.

A whole bunch of people causing chaos and a lot of people dying, jailed, and flat out disappearing. When someone does come on board and start organizing the resistance, they start making head way until the CCP whacks the person off and then it's back to ineffective chaos.

That is where clear lines of authority comes into play. When the leader is disposed, a recognized new one takes the person's place without a hiccup and the battle continues.

[Jan 01, 2021] Pennsylvania lawmakers concluded that "Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification Of Presidential Results Premature and In Error."

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Stunning turn of events in PA may lead to Trump victory On Dec. 28, Pennsylvania lawmakers concluded that "Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification Of Presidential Results Premature and In Error."

President Trump tweeted about it:

Breaking News: In Pennsylvania there were 205,000 more votes than there were voters. This alone flips the state to President Trump.

The key paragraphs from the PA lawmakers' two-page statement:

A comparison of official county election results to the total number of voters who voted on November 3, 2020 as recorded by the Department of State shows that 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted. Among the 6,962,607 total ballots cast, 6,931,060 total votes were counted in the presidential race, including all three candidates on the ballot and write-in candidates.

The difference of 202,377 more votes cast than voters voting, together with the 31,547 over- and under-votes in the presidential race, adds up to an alarming discrepancy of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between the two major candidates for President of the United States. On November 24, 2020, Boockvar certified election results, and Wolf issued a certificate of ascertainment of presidential electors, stating that Vice President Joe Biden received 80,555 more votes than President Donald Trump.

The PA lawmakers have done their job (so far). Now what is the next step? These lawmakers need to recall the slate of electors and tell the House and Senate that the election results cannot be ascertained in their state. They should probably hold a vote that overturns the certification of the awful election. The bottom line is that the slate of electors is not permitted to vote on Jan. 6.

This reasonable and fair action may have a domino effect on the other embattled states, whose lawmakers should follow suit. If this happens, Trump will win in the Electoral College. (I had erroneously stated that if no one reaches 270 votes, then the House decides.) Instead, the Twelfth Amendment states: "[T]he votes shall then be counted[.] ... The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President[.]"

But will PA's Legislature, where the real power resides, do this? And will the other embattled states do the same? If so, then Trump (rightly) wins: 232 to 222. This is the best, constitutionally speaking, and probably the only real option remaining for Trump.

Therefore, the solution is, once again, that we the people need to put maximum pressure on the heroic and truthful PA legislators to send word to the House and Senate, reminding them that the legislatures decide things, not a governor or a secretary of state. They should even hold a vote, overturning the certification of the election. And we need to put the same pressure on the legislatures of the other embattled states, where fraud obviously happened, to follow Pennsylvania's lead. _arrow 1

Hipneck911 6 hours ago

Are all you commie losers just too stupid or to lazy to look things up?

BREAKING: Members of PA House and Senate Write Letter to McConnell and McCarthy to Dispute Fraudulent Election Results After 205,000 Bogus Votes Discovered

PerilouseTimes 10 hours ago remove link

All a show. We know Trump won the election. They kicked out poll watchers and counted votes in the middle of night when no one was watching. Why all the if irregularities exist crap? You are being played once again by fake politicians.

[Dec 30, 2020] Pennsylvania Republicans find 'alarming discrepancy' twice the margin of Biden's victory by Daniel Chaitin

Dec 30, 2020 |

Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania say an "alarming discrepancy" in the presidential vote count is two times larger than the margin of President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the state.

Their analysis, released on Monday by state Rep. Frank Ryan and more than a dozen colleagues, found different vote counts when comparing Election Day data from counties and the Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors, or SURE, system used by Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar. They also raised suspicions about there being tens of thousands fewer votes in the presidential race than overall ballots.

All this comes more than a month after Boockvar certified election results and Gov. Tom Wolf issued a certificate of ascertainment of presidential electors, stating that Biden received 80,555 more votes than Trump.

According to the GOP analysis, county election results showed 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while the SURE system indicated that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted, which is a difference of 202,377 votes. The Republicans said this 202,377 gap, coupled with 31,547 fewer presidential race votes seen in county data, amounts to "an alarming discrepancy" of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between Biden and Trump.

A small graph that appears at the bottom of their press release states that three small rural counties have not fully posted their results online, and therefore the assessment only goes off what has been reported.

table: Graph courtesy of Pennsylvania state Rep. Frank Ryan. © Provided by Washington Examiner Graph courtesy of Pennsylvania state Rep. Frank Ryan.

"We were already concerned with the actions of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, the Executive branch, and election officials in certain counties contravening and undermining the Pennsylvania Election Code by eliminating signature verification, postmarks, and due dates while allowing the proliferation of drop boxes with questionable security measures and the unauthorized curing of ballots, as well as the questionable treatment of poll watchers, all of which created wholesale opportunities for irregularities in the 2020 presidential election," the lawmakers said.

"However, we are now seeing discrepancies on the retail level which raise even more troubling questions regarding irregularities in the election returns. These findings call into question the accuracy of the SURE system, consistency in the application of the Pennsylvania Election Code from county to county, and the competency of those charged with oversight of elections in our Commonwealth," the GOP lawmakers added. "These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error."

[Dec 21, 2020] Evidence of election fraud in Nevada

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[Dec 21, 2020] YouTube Removes Video of Trump Lawyer's Opening Statement at Senate Committee Hearing

If those fact does not suggest widespread fraud, I do not what is
Dec 21, 2020 |

"YouTube has decided that my opening statement in the U.S. [Senate], given under oath and based upon hard evidence, is too dangerous for you to see; they removed it. To this day, 'our evidence has never been refuted, only ignored.' Why is Google so afraid of the truth? #BigBrother," lawyer Jesse Binnall wrote on Twitter.

John Houghton 7 hours ago ,

So social media is now the arbiter of truth. Orwell was a little late but correct.

DC555 John Houghton 7 hours ago ,

It's still not going to work! What's wrong with people who are thinking of capitulating to an obvious, bold and wholesale fraudulent election?? We cannot accept this by a long shot. Law is MIA, Most representatives are cowards, SCOTUS is corrupted. Lawful elections must be restored, starting with this one.

Luke DC555 7 hours ago ,

By taking down that video it shows that they know Biden's win is fraudulent, but how many people won't put in the effort of downloading other video services like rumble, or continue forward in that direction when social media & MSM both just keep repeating no fraud no fraud. The more evidence we show the more they say no fraud. It's as sad as it is scary. They convinced people to cheat, support, donate, and commit crimes to put someone in office that will hurt this nation & it's citizens... & still, some people did vote for biden, some people cheated & committed crimes for biden.

They used identity politics to divide us but also to use people to do the dems dirty work.

Dee Luke 5 hours ago ,

Anything I think may be deleted I download, so I can keep putting it up elsewhere.

patricia Dee 5 hours ago ,

Great work, Dee.

[Dec 11, 2020] A stay order is denied in the Pennsylvania Kelly case, but a new filing is planned by Robert Willmann

Dec 11, 2020 |

The request for a stay order or injunction against Pennsylvania in the solid case to declare unconstitutional the changes in 2019 that established full mail-in voting in that state was denied by the U.S. Supreme Court in a standard one-sentence order on Tuesday, 8 December 2020 [1]. Sometimes the Supreme Court will consider an application for an injunction or stay order as also being a request to agree to hear the case, and will accept the case for decision and set a briefing schedule. Or they may accept the case and grant relief without further briefing or argument. In this instance, the lawyer filing the request, Greg Teufel of Pittsburgh, also asked that the court consider the application in that vein: the court could use it to agree to hear the case. However, the court's order denied injunctive relief, and did not explicitly say that it was also denying a request to consider the case as a whole.

It is my understanding that a formal request asking the court to agree to hear the case on its merits will be filed.

The case was brought in Pennsylvania by U.S. Congressman Mike Kelly, candidate Sean Parnell, and six others. After the courageous Judge Patricia McCullough of the Commonwealth Court issued a preliminary injunction against certifying the election results pending an evidentiary hearing, the intellectually corrupt Pennsylvania Supreme Court stepped in and dismissed the case with prejudice, so that the constitutional issue could not be decided and the case could not be re-filed in Pennsylvania [2].

[1] The U.S. Supreme Court order denying a stay order or injunction.


[Dec 10, 2020] Arizona Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Election Challenge After Investigation of 100-Ballot Sample Finds 3% of the Ballots Were Deemed Fraudulent in Favor of Biden

Dec 10, 2020 |

The GOP filed a lawsuit in Arizona to audit a sample of 100 ballots to prove there was massive voter fraud.

The Arizona GOP last Wednesday announced the findings from their investigation of 100 duplicate ballots, in which TWO votes were discovered to have been altered and removed from President Trump's total.

One ballot was changed from Trump to Biden and another ballot was completely taken away from President Trump.

This is a 3% margin of fraud in Biden's favor (2 votes taken away from Trump and one added to Biden).

The Arizona Supreme Court could rule on the case as early as this evening or tomorrow.


Fox News calling Arizona for Joe Biden gave cover to the corrupt Democrat machine in Maricopa County to produce enough ballots for Biden to backfill the number of votes projected by Fox News.

Arizona Republicans gathered on Monday and called for the decertification of the state's false election results .

[Dec 05, 2020] Native Americans votes were supposedly bought in Arizona. Can they change the results in Georgia runoffs?

Dec 05, 2020 |

Very few of Georgia's more than 100,000 voting-age Native Americans cast ballots in November. Even a small increase could make a difference in the Senate runoffs.

Based on a New York Times analysis of precinct data, President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. received more than 80 percent of the roughly 55,000 votes cast in the Arizona portion of the Navajo Nation -- the country's largest tribe -- and in the smaller Hopi Reservation, which shares precincts with the Navajo.

That alone could account for Mr. Biden's 10,500-vote margin of victory over President Trump in Arizona, even before looking at his strong support among other tribes there, like the Tohono O'odham Nation, which has been enraged by the president's efforts to build his border wall through tribal land.

[Dec 05, 2020] Obama Judge in Nevada Denies Trump Campaign's Lawsuit - Ignores 20 Books Full of Evidence

Dec 05, 2020 |

Pwesident Ewect Fweddy Fwintso 11 minutes ago ,

Every time I see this it makes me wonder what they got on Jimmy Russell. I wonder how many trips he made to Epstein island.

[Dec 01, 2020] Arizona certifies Biden winner of 2020 election despite Trump challenges -- RT USA News

Dec 01, 2020 |

The certification kicks off a five-day period during which anyone can contest the results. State Republican Party chairwoman Kelli Ward announced she would be in court Monday with a lawsuit already filed in order to secure documents she hopes to use to challenge Biden's victory.

Trump is expected to challenge the results both in Arizona and Wisconsin, which also plans to certify Biden's victory on Monday. Most of his post-Election Day legal challenges have been thrown out, though recently-dismissed Trump legal team member Sidney Powell filed a massive lawsuit of her own last week alleging sweeping voter fraud.

The Trump legal team has already dropped one suit against Arizona that sought to have all ballots cast on Election Day reviewed. While lawyers had initially suspected Trump votes were discarded as " overvotes ," the number of actual overvotes was found to be relatively minimal, and the remaining unreviewed ballots would not have been able to exceed Biden's margin of victory.

[Dec 01, 2020] Pennsylvania House GOP leaders- Lawmakers won't meet again this year

Dec 01, 2020 |

T he Republican leaders of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives announced late Saturday that they will not be returning to session this year, a move that would appear to preclude any possibility of lawmakers interceding in the 2020 election.

House Speaker Bryan Cutler, R-Quarryville, and Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, R-Bellefonte, released a joint statement saying that they would not be calling their chamber to Harrisburg on Monday, the final possible day for the 2019-20 session of the Legislature to meet.

"We are physically unable to consider any new legislation before the end of session," they wrote in the statement. "A simple resolution takes three legislative days for consideration and a concurrent resolution takes five legislative days to move through both chambers, which means we do not have the time needed to address any new resolutions in our current session."

Article III, Section 4 of the state constitution requires that bills be considered on three different days by each chamber. A simple resolution originates from a single chamber, while a concurrent resolution must move through both.

After Monday, there can be no further meetings of the Legislature this year. Article II, Section 4 , decrees that the 2021-22 session of the Legislature will begin on the first Tuesday of January, which will be Jan. 5, 2021.

Given that the House won't meet before the Electoral College gathers to pick the next president Dec. 14, President Donald Trump's hopes that state lawmakers in Pennsylvania would step in and choose electors appear to be dashed.

[Dec 01, 2020] Pennsylvania Lawmakers Formally Introduce Resolution To Dispute 2020 Elections Results -

Dec 01, 2020 |

As The Epoch Times' Ivan Pentchoukov reports , the text of the resolution, first previewed in a memo on Nov. 27, states that the executive and judicial branches of the Keystone State's government usurped the legislature's constitutional power to set the rules of the election.

"Officials in the Executive and Judicial Branches of the Commonwealth infringed upon the General Assembly's authority under the Constitution of the United States by unlawfully changing the rules governing the November 3, 2020, election in the Commonwealth," the resolution ( pdf ) states.

The resolution calls on the secretary of the Commonwealth to withdraw the "premature certification " of the presidential election and delay certifying other races , declares the 2020 election to be in dispute, and urges the U.S. Congress "to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute."

Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly said in a statement, "A number of compromises of Pennsylvania's election laws took place during the 2020 General Election. The documented irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing have undermined our elector process and, as a result, we cannot accept certification of the results in statewide races."

They added, "We believe this moment is pivotal and important enough that the General Assembly needs to take extraordinary measures to answer these extraordinary questions. We also believe our representative oversight duty as Pennsylvania's legislative branch of government demands us to re-assume our constitutional authority and take immediate action."

The proposed text lists three steps taken by the judicial and executive branches to change the rules of the election.

First, on Sept. 17 , the Pennsylvania Supreme Court "unlawfully and unilaterally" extended the deadline by which mail ballots could be received, mandated that ballots without a postmark would be treated as timely, and allowed for ballots without a verified voter signature to be accepted, the resolution says.

Second, on Oct. 23, upon a petition from the secretary of the commonwealth, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that signatures on mail-in ballots need not be authenticated.

And third, on Nov. 2, the secretary of the commonwealth "encouraged certain counties to notify party and candidate representatives of mail-in voters whose ballots contained defects," the resolution says.

All of the changes are contrary to the Pennsylvania Election Code, which requires mail-in ballots to be received at 8 p.m. on Election Day, mandates that signatures on the mail-in ballots be authenticated, and forbids the counting of defective mail-in ballots.

The resolution also lists a variety of election irregularities and potential fraud, including the issues brought up by witnesses during the hearing before the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Policy Committee on Nov. 25.

"On November 24, 2020, the Secretary of the Commonwealth unilaterally and prematurely certified results of the November 3, 2020 election regarding presidential electors despite ongoing litigation," the resolution states.

"The Pennsylvania House of Representatives has the duty to ensure that no citizen of this Commonwealth is disenfranchised, to insist that all elections are conducted according to the law, and to satisfy the general public that every legal vote is counted accurately."

Pennsylvania State Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican, said Friday that the GOP-controlled state legislature will make a bid to reclaim its power to appoint the state's electors to the Electoral College, saying they could start the process on Nov. 30.

"So, we're gonna do a resolution between the House and Senate, hopefully today," he told Steve Bannon's War Room on Friday.

[Nov 28, 2020] In an exclusive interview, attorney Joe diGenova, a member of the President's legal team examining election irregularities, said the amount of election fraud and deception in Pennsylvania is "truly staggering."

Nov 28, 2020 |

Nov 27, 2020 5:23 PM

This is a brief update from Joe DiGenova; being a member of Trump's legal team.
Attorney DiGenova Says Fraud, Deception In Pa. Election Is 'Truly Staggering'
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In an exclusive interview, attorney Joe diGenova, a member of the President's legal team examining election irregularities, said the amount of election fraud and deception in Pennsylvania is "truly staggering." One America's John Hines has more. 4 0 Reply

John , Nov 27, 2020 3:24 PM

The author has miscalculated the evil of Soros. He is a perfect example of a manipulator. Manipulators are among the most clever, accomplished liars. He has fooled you too.

[Nov 28, 2020] Summary of Today's Press Conference in Gettysburg, PA Investment Watch

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[Nov 28, 2020] US Election- A Color Revolution 'Comes Home to Roost' OffGuardian

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Nov 27, 2020 2:55 AM

THIS IS A MUST WATCH (At least in part). Full Pennsylvania Hearing held just yesterday – legislators are instructed on how to stop certifications of false election results based on fraud at the end, Prior to that are hours of evidence presented in first hand testimony by sworn witnesses. If you are STILL listening to ANY source that mocks this effort, you must shake that bad habit and that source, clearly. Anyone still mind controlled enough to believe or pass along that there is no evidence of fraud, or even scant evidence or nothing to overturn the US 2020 election result is basically a member of a toxic cult group.

Here is an excellent summary of the entire hearing, if you dont have time to watch it or want to share the findings easily.

When the truth about the election is given a public airing, it is absolutely undenable. Skip and listen to the end especially. There is more than raw data involved here, it is pride, it is ideals, it is essentially the spirit of justice and freedom and you can hear it in the voices of those who participate in the fight for truth, it is undeniable. Dont forget to visit me at for more high quality alt news helping fight the information blockade and censorship. 5 0 Reply

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[Nov 28, 2020] Election Fraud Memes- Michigan's Mysterious 3am Biden Votes

Why mail-in ballots were counted last. That alone open avenues for the fraud.
Nov 28, 2020 |
Election Fraud Memes: Michigan's Mysterious 3am Biden Votes

edg on Wed, 11/25/2020 - 5:33pm

In the pantheon of 2020 election fraud claims, this one is very easy to debunk. Nevertheless, a conservative friend of mine posted it on Facebook just this morning.

The "theory" is that gremlins (Note: Never feed your mogwai after midnight local time) or even worse, Democrats, snuck into vote counting centers in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at 3am the night of the election and added hundreds of thousands of fraudulent Biden votes, thus stealing President Trump's huge vote lead and his presidency.

The image below shows the startling proof (more discussion after).

It's easy to understand why in the minds of Trump and his supporters, President Trump won Michigan and Pennsylvania by huge margins: 15.2% in Pennsylvania and 9.6% in Michigan. This was a resounding victory for the President.

But then that victory was stolen. Suddenly, late on election night, mysterious and unexplainable votes for Biden were crammed into Dominion voting machines at 3am Eastern Time in Michigan and Pennsylvania and then the same thing happened again at 3am Central Time in Wisconsin.

Gremlins, aka Democrats, claim those votes aren't mysterious at all. They (and we know who they are) say it's because in-person votes were counted first, giving Trump a temporary lead, then mail-in votes were counted, giving Biden the final lead. Not bloody likely!!

But here's a test of Trump's claim: Do the political demographics of those swing states match the 3am results or do they match the final results? In other words, are there realistic grounds for claiming widespread fraud? The answer is no.

Here's a chart showing the percentage of adult political party identification and Trump's winning/losing margins as of 3am election night and as of yesterday. The first 5 rows are the swing states, the next 3 are solid Red states, and the bottom 3 are solid Blue states.

For control groups, I chose solid Red and Blue states with win margins of about 15%, comparable to Trump's Pennsylvania lead at 3am on election night.

Takeaways from the chart:


As the control groups show, a 15% or greater lead in party affiliation produces a 15% or more lead for the party's candidate. This holds true for other states I checked as well.

States with less than 15% party disparity show mixed results, although this may be due to the so-called Independents in those states aligning with one of the major parties. Iowa, for example, is ostensibly 41% R, 40% D, and 19% I, but favored Trump by 8.3%. Virginia, on the other hand, affiliates 43% R, 39% D, and 18% I, but favored Biden by 10.1%.

True swing states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Wisconsin showed their swinginess by favoring Biden 2-1 over Trump.

Missouri, which affiliation-wise could be a swing state, favored Trump by 15.3%.

Biden's vote count was entirely consistent with political affiliations in Michigan and Pennsylvania, which lean Democratic, and in swing states Georgia and Wisconsin. Biden lost in North Carolina even though it leans slightly Democratic.

All-in-all, statistical analysis of the 2020 Presidential election clearly shows there was no widespread fraud as claimed by President Trump. When combined with the well-known and well-documented timing of absentee/mail-in vote counts AFTER in-person counts and with the Trump-generated bias of mail voters preferring Biden, there is absolutely no truth to the 3am claim by Trump and his supporters .

[Nov 28, 2020] Federal appeals court slams Trump campaign efforts to turn tide in Pennsylvania ruling, saying 'claims have no

Nov 28, 2020 |

"The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter," How it can be: dead people voting is not fradulent? Manipulations with mail-in ballots are not fraudulent? Blocking observers is not fraudulent? If blocking observers is not fraudulent why to have elections at all. Let DNC or Lochid Martin board appoint president and be done with it.

"Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here," wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, for the panel.

"The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter," wrote Bibas. "It never alleges that any defendant treated the Trump campaign or its votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or its votes. Calling something discrimination does not make it so. The Second Amended Complaint still suffers from these core defects, so granting leave to amend would have been futile."

... ... ...

Jenna Ellis, an attorney for Trump's campaign, said on Twitter following the ruling that "the activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud," and pledged to take the case to the Supreme Court.

[Nov 28, 2020] Pennsylvania Appeals Court Tosses Trump Lawsuit, Setting Stage For Supreme Court Showdown

It is an interesting legal opinion: denying importance of observers is tantamount to legitimizing election fraud. We should view observers much like a jury in cimnal trial and without their consent the result can't be viewed legitimate.
Nov 28, 2020 |

"Voters, not lawyers, choose the president," reads the opinion from the appeals court, adding "Ballots, not briefs, decide elections. The ballots here are governed by Pennsylvania election law. No federal law requires poll watchers or specifies where they must live or how close they may stand when votes are counted. Nor does federal law govern whether to count ballots with minor state-law defects or let voters cure those defects ."

The Trump campaign sought to have a federal court invalidate Pennsylvania's certification, and then get the state's General Assembly to select Trump electors to the Electoral College - which campaign attorney Marc Scaringi wrrote to the US Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit (via CNBC ).

"The Pennsylvania General Assembly has the power to appoint the Commonwealth's presidential electors," wrote Scaringi, adding "A decision by the District Court that President Trump won the legal votes may have significant impact on the General Assembly."

The campaign has alleged widespread voting fraud.

J S Bach , 2 hours ago

"Voters, not lawyers, choose the president," reads the opinion from the appeals court, adding "Ballots, not briefs, decide elections."

Indeed. LEGITIMATE VOTERS choose the president. LEGAL ballots decide elections.

If this fails, there will NEVER be an honest election again in this corpse of a Republic. Only a full blown revolution will reclaim the original intent of our Constitution. Traitor heads must roll on a biblical scale.

cankles' server , 1 hour ago

Rumor has it that Biden's campaign was warned to concede so other similar affidavits won't be filed that exposes national security secrets.

Unknown User , 1 hour ago

The Swamp is strong in that place...

Boing_Snap , 1 hour ago

If they don't stop this election fraud and shutdowns the Law of the Jungle will be coming real soon, worldwide.

Lawyers are politicians as well, we're not having any of it, cleaning house will be the name of the game.

They've pushed us too far.

RAT005 , 21 minutes ago

Imagine such a simple obvious rule that all [mail-in] ballots must be submitted before the deadline with a verifiable signature limited only to registered voters. And so many lawyers, judges and other idiots get to discuss and rule on it for weeks while stoking protesters' fury that some element of legitimate voting is being suppressed.

Freeman of the City , 1 hour ago

SIGNATURE VERIFICATION: FLASHBACK: Obama Says Mail-in Ballots Can Only Be Trusted if the Signatures are Verified:
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dging , 2 hours ago

The idiocy of the ruling is even worse than you say. You're exactly right, legitimate votes matter. But to the court apparently, legitimate and illegitimate votes count equally.

Also in the opinion "No federal law requires poll watchers or specifies where they must live or how close they may stand when votes are counted. Nor does federal law govern whether to count ballots with minor state-law defects or let voters cure those defects ." votes count equally."

Okay, but that's not the point of the lawsuit. Did the judge even read the lawsuit? Or listen to the arguments. Federal law says that only the state legislature can set the rules for the election. But that's not what happened. Parties outside the state legislature set the rules. That's why it's a federal case. Are the judges really that stupid that they can't understand simple logic? Apparently.

Buckaroo Banzai , 2 hours ago

It's funny how suddenly the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th Amendment doesn't seem to apply to Trump voters. Asking someone to prove he can read before he can vote is a violation of the Equal Protection Clause, but letting a bunch of inner-city "vote counters" work in tandem with crooked vote-counting machine makers to steal an election by manufacturing a bunch of phony votes in the dark of night (both literally and figuratively), which then causes the people who took the trouble to vote legally to have the value of their votes diluted, is not a violation of the Equal Protection Clause? That's just one example. The Federal Courts have used this clause to bulldoze state laws hundreds of times in the last century, but now suddenly they can't seem to locate the 14th Amendment in their copies of the Constitution?

snatchpounder , 1 hour ago

"Voters, not lawyers, choose the president," reads the opinion from the appeals court,

Wrong, the people writing the code for the software for the voting machines choose the president. Where paper ballots are used the corrupt vote counters choose the president.

Walter Melon , 1 hour ago

Voter fraud has always been "piecemeal" in that, traditionally, it's been done at the precinct level, and in varying ways (as we're seeing this year). Small ball, but for the win.

Fellow travelers in the voting room, after the polls close, take the "leftover" ballots, punch them, and run them through the machine before reporting. Fellow travelers troll the old folks' homes and get "absentee" ballots "filled out". Any warm body shows up and claims to be a voter, and gets a ballot. Warm bodies being shuffled around the city in buses. Etc.

And without computers it would take weeks and months to figure out that while x people checked out ballots, y ballots were cast in a precinct. That's why, traditionally, it's been difficult to win election challenges - because the fraud is small and piecemeal.

Well it seems that with these newfangled computers, and a camera in every pocket, the old ways of cheating are easier to discover (even though still being used).

I've had a hard time accepting that "statistics" can prove election fraud, and so will a lot of older people including judges.

But I'm coming around.

biot patalay , 24 minutes ago

You can only physically scan a maximum 3000 ballots through a machine in an hour, NOT 90,000! How's that statistic?

Xando , 1 hour ago

Here's the thing: millions, yes millions, of those 80 million Biden voters simply do not exist.

There is no way Crazy Uncle Joe received the most votes for president in US history. In fact, he may not even have won the Democrat Primaries (looks like Bernie got screwed again!). He's a quasi-senile old man who barely campaigned and when he did he struggled. He's a very strange man who lacks broad charisma. Plus his campaign was 100% negative. Do you seriously believe he beat the Hopium of the The One in 2008? Or Trump's MAGA? Both of which turned out thousands at rallies even during the times of COVID?

If you believe those 80 million Biden voters actually exist, you need to re-examine a lot of things.

For to accept that Joe Biden won this election you also have to accept a bewildering pile of improbabilities and also put aside everything you thought you knew about human nature.

[Nov 26, 2020] PA Data Scientist Says He 'Personally Observed' USB Cards 'Being Uploaded to Voting Machines' over 24 Times

Nov 26, 2020 |

910 PA Senate Republicans ROBERT KRAYCHIK 26 Nov 2020 516 5:07

Gregory Stenstrom, a poll watcher in Pennsylvania and CEO of a data sciences company, testified on Wednesday that he witnessed over 24 instances of USB cards being connected to voting machines during the ballot counting process.

Stenstrom spoke at a State Senate Majority Policy Committee hearing in Gettysburg, PA. He addressed his observations as a poll watcher in Delaware County, PA:

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I personally observed USB cards being uploaded to voting machines by the voting machine warehouse supervisor on multiple occasions. I saw this personally. I brought it to the attention of the deputy sheriff who was there stationed, who was a senior law enforcement officer, and I brought to the attention of the clerk of elections.

I brought it to their attention. I objected, and I said this person is not being observed. He's not part of the process that I can see, and he's walking in with baggies -- which we have pictures of and it was submitted in our affidavits -- and he was sticking these USBs into the machines.

So I personally witnessed that happen over 24 times. We have multiple other witnesses who saw it, including Democrat poll watchers.

Stenstrom said he had been told by U.S. Attorney William McSwain such conduct with USBs and voting machines is unusual.

"As of today, 47 USB cards are missing, and they are nowhere to be found," added Stenstrom. "I was told personally that these 24 to 30 cards that were uploaded weren't there." jerryg1018 • 14 hours ago

The democrats had four years to plan for this. Probably accelerated their plan once they realized Trump wasn't going to be removed from office by impeachment.

50 • Reply • Share › Avatar Deplorable Badger jerryg1018 • 9 hours ago

My wife and I listened to the entire 3.5 hours yesterday on Right Side Broadcasting. I think the Demonrats were planning for a much lesser amount of cheating that would keep the books balanced, which probably entailed shaving votes from Trump and giving them to Biden. After seeing Trump was up by 700,000 votes at 9:00 am, they shut down the counting and did massive cheating during the night. According to PA's Secretary of State website, 1.8 Million absentee ballots were mailed out and 1.4 Million were returned. They final absentee ballot count was 2.5 Million. This cheating was massive and planned in a panic mode and seems to be getting uncovered.

After Trump rightfully wins his second term, Rudy Giuliani needs be appointed a Special Prosecutor or become Attorney General. Rudy sounded to me like he is putting together a RICO case against the bad actors. Rudy needs to crush the cheating Demonrat bastards. SoA-to-SoE Deplorable Badger • 5 hours ago

Once again, they underestimated the vote count for Trump. Once it became apparent he was running away with this election, he was up so much, they had to move to plan D. With this amount of correction, things are bound to get sloppy and there are several loose ends. Hence the hurry to put a lid on it, declare Biden the winner and move on. Again, the man fights back which they still don't understand. The longer this goes on, the more nervous the bad actors get and all it will take is for Rudy to subpoena the people who want to come forward but fear for their safety if they come forward on their own. Once you get one songbird, this thing folds like a deck chair on the Titanic. This has been so coordinated and orchestrated at the highest levels it will shake this country to its core. Buckle up. amans patriam Deplorable Badger • 6 hours ago

1.8 Million absentee ballots mailed
1.4 Million returned
2.5 million absentee ballots counted

On that data alone, how can any reasonable, fair minded, honest person conclude that the final PA vote tally should be used as a basis to select PA's EC electors?

I wonder if there is some confusion over "absentee" and "mail-in". Do the numbers cited above relate ONLY to "absentee" ballots? Gatsby'sPool amans patriam • 4 hours ago • edited

Where did you get those numbers from?

The actual numbers are 3 million requested and 2.6 returned.

https://electproject.github... tom amans patriam • 6 hours ago

Look at the charts on dominion , spike at 99% for biden after they shutdown the count . They have recorded the spikes and charted the impossible reading that doctoral country's don't get . Witnessed by a cyber war expert tom Gatsby'sPool • 4 hours ago

Eyewitness testimony by the most professional tech guy watching 24 chips being up loaded into a internet vote counting machines. jersey jerryg1018 • 8 hours ago

They had a few primary elections to practice on first. I read somewhere they used same crap to steal primary election from Bernie in a few states.

[Nov 26, 2020] Judge Blocks Certification Of 'Remaining' Pennsylvania Election Results; Boockvar Appeals To PA Supreme Court -

Nov 26, 2020 |

A Pennsylvania judge on Wednesday ordered state officials to not certify the results of the 2020 election until her court holds a hearing on an election contest on Friday.

Commonwealth Judge Patricia McCullough ordered the state to not take any further steps to complete the certification of the presidential race, which the state announced on Tuesday. She also blocked the certification of all the other election results.

"To the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States of America, respondents are preliminarily enjoined from doing so, pending an evidentiary hearing to be held on Friday," the judge wrote in her order ( pdf ).

" Respondents are preliminarily enjoined from certifying the remaining results of the election, pending the evidentiary hearing ."

McCullough is presiding over a lawsuit brought by Republican lawmakers and candidates against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Gov. Tom Wolf (D), Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar, and the Pennsylvania General Assembly.

The plaintiffs alleged that Pennsylvania's vote-by-mail stature -- Act 77 -- is in violation of the state's constitution.

"Act 77 is the most expansive and fundamental change to the Pennsylvania voting code, implemented illegally, to date," the lawsuit , filed in the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, states.

"As with prior historical attempts to illegally expand mail-in voting by statute, which have been struck down going as far back as the Military Absentee Ballot Act of 1839, Act 77 is another illegal attempt to override the limitations on absentee voting prescribed in the Pennsylvania Constitution, without first following the necessary procedure to amend the constitution to allow for the expansion."

The plaintiffs include Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.), Republican congressional candidate Sean Parnell, and Pennsylvania House of Representatives candidate Wanda Logan.

Marc Elias, one of the top attorneys leading the Democrats' post-election legal battles, called the lawsuit frivolous.

"Republican Congressman Mike Kelly has filed a new frivolous lawsuit in Pennsylvania seeking to block the state from certifying the election results and having the state legislature choose electors," Elias wrote on Twitter on Nov. 21. "This is absolutely shameful."

President Donald Trump responded to Elias, writing: "This is not at all frivolous. It is brought on behalf of one of the most respected members of the United States Congress who is disgusted, like so many others, by an Election that is a fraudulent mess. Fake ballots, dead people voting, no Republican Poll Watchers allowed, & more!"

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, signed Act 77 into law on Oct. 31, 2019. Eight of the nine sponsors of the bill in the Pennsylvania Senate were Republicans.

[Nov 26, 2020] Pennsylvania Judge Halts Further Vote Certification Steps

Nov 26, 2020 |

A Pennsylvania judge issued an order preventing the state from taking additional steps to certify its election results until she holds a hearing on Friday morning.

The ruling on Wednesday by Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough in Pittsburgh halts the process "to the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election." Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar certified President-elect Joe Biden's 80,555-vote Pennsylvania victory yesterday, and Governor Tom Wolf appointed electors for the state. Boockvar and Wolf are both Democrats.

he case before McCullough is separate from the federal lawsuit by President Donald Trump's campaign that seeks to undo Pennsylvania's certification unless it tosses out tens of thousands of mail-in ballots the suit alleges are illegal. The state case was brought by Pennsylvania Republicans led by U.S. Representative Mike Kelly, who sought to derail certification by arguing that the state's expansion of mail-in voting was illegal.

[Nov 26, 2020] Nevada Election Fraud case given the go-ahead for depositions. Read the full court filing that shows MASSIVE fraud, clear violations of US Constitution Equal Protection Clause use of faulty, faulty, faulty AI voter signature machines:

Nov 26, 2020 |

UndergroundPost , 1 day ago

And don't miss this:

Nevada Election Fraud case given the go-ahead for depositions. Read the full court filing that shows MASSIVE fraud, clear violations of US Constitution Equal Protection Clause & use of faulty, faulty, faulty AI voter signature machines:

Will Geriatric Joe Puppet and the lying DEM Machine be so keen on "reconciliation" after their fraud is so overwhelmingly apparent proving Trump really won?

[Nov 25, 2020] MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT finds there is SUBSTANTIATED EVIDENCE of troubling and serious allegations of VOTER FRAUD AND IRREGULA

Nov 25, 2020 |

Michigan Supreme Court says they find the evidence of voter fraud to be SERIOUS, TROUBLING, and SUBSTANTIATED! Nothing said is to diminish the troubling and serious allegations of fraud and irregularities asserted by the affiants offered by plaintiffs, among whom is Ruth Johnson, Michigan's immediate past Secretary of State, who testified that, given the "very concerning" "allegations and issues raised by Plaintiffs," she "believe[s] that it would be proper for an independent audit to be conducted as soon as possible to ensure the accuracy and integrity of th[e] election." Plaintiffs' affidavits present evidence to substantiate their allegations, which include claims of ballots being counted from voters whose names are not contained in the appropriate poll books, instructions being given to

disobey election laws and regulations, the questionable appearance of unsecured batches of absentee ballots after the deadline for receiving ballots, discriminatory conduct during the counting and observation process, and other violations of the law. Plaintiffs, in my judgment, have raised important constitutional issues regarding the precise scope of Const 1963, art 2, §4(l)(h) -- a provision of striking breadth added to our Michigan Constitution just two years ago through the exercise of direct democracy and the constitutional initiative process -- and its interplay with MCL 168.31a and other election

[Nov 23, 2020] Swiping the dirt under the rug

Nov 23, 2020 |

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A Luzerne County worker canvases ballots that arrived after closing of voting until Friday at 5 p.m. and postmarked by Nov. 3rd as vote counting in the general election continues, Friday, Nov. 6, 2020, in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)
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JOSHUA CAPLAN 23 Nov 2020 1,738 3:08

Pennsylvania state lawmakers on Monday turned down a formal call for the 2020 election to undergo an audit as President Donald Trump continues to challenge the key battleground state's election results. reports:

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A bipartisan, bicameral legislative service agency on Monday, in a rare move, rejected a request from the House of Representatives to conduct a statistical-level review of the conduct of 2020 general election. The Legislative Budget & Finance Committee officers voted 2-1 against performing the "risk-limiting" audit that was ordered by House Resolution 1100 . That resolution, sponsored by Rep. Jesse Topper, R-Bedford County, passed the House on Thursday by a 112-90 vote, with all Republican members and three Democrats supporting it. [ ] Sen. Jim Brewster and Rep. Jake Wheatley, both Allegheny County Democrats, voted against taking on the audit. Sen. Bob Mensch, R-Montgomery County, favored the committee accept the assignment. Rep. Steve Barrar, R-Delaware County, who is retiring from the House at the end of this month, didn't participate in the Zoom meeting.

During the committee hearing, the Democrat members criticized the idea of conducting an audit to validate Pennsylvania's election results.!9&btvi=1&fsb=1&xpc=9KX7qU2iXJ&p=https%3A//

"I'm at a loss as to what the purpose of the resolution is and why it's even necessary if the work is going to be done" by state counties, said Brewster.

"I really would suggest there are other ways to validate our election results," Wheatley added.

Conversely, Pennsylvania state Rep. Jesse Topper (R) argued that an audit would ensure "a statistical level of confidence in not only the outcome of this past election, but [also] ensure trust in all future elections here in the commonwealth."

"I'm disappointed that the fact they thought it was going to be too difficult and too much work dissuaded them from doing what I think is absolutely necessary for us to move forward with changes," Topper stated. "Anybody who [thinks] on either side changes don't need to be made to the process after what we saw in the days leading up to, during, the day of, and the days after the election is simply not engaged in reality."

"The Department of State is currently involved in litigation concerning this election and their role in providing a lot of the confusion that went on," he added. "Now we'll have to figure out a different path forward."

Last week, Gov. Tom Wolf (D) claimed that the legislative-request audit was pointless.

Wolf said in a statement: "The Legislative Budget Finance Committee has no expertise or role in election administration and no statutory authority outside the fiscal realm, and it is inappropriate to pretend it does. An audit by the LBFC would be incomplete, duplicative and unreliable." Bry • 4 hours ago

What are they afraid of?

94 • Reply • Share › Avatar Mason Buschkopf Bry • 4 hours ago

The same thing all criminals are afraid of, being exposed, going to prison, dropping the soap, that sort of thing. [email protected] Bry • 4 hours ago

That's exactly the point. If there's nothing to hide, if there's no evidence of fraud, if this was such an open and honest election, why are they so dead set against finding out? If you want to be seen as guilty of something, act like it and this is exactly what they're doing. John Wayne [email protected] • 2 hours ago

They are scared of all the skeletons that will be exposed under such scrutiny. Not Buying It [email protected] • 4 hours ago

34 cases tossed out and no fraud wins. They are afraid of lying in a court of law.

18 4 • Reply • Share › Avatar Rick Crosley Not Buying It • 2 hours ago

democrat judges

20 2 • Reply • Share › Avatar kai savage Rick Crosley • an hour ago

Not to mention, Vichy RINO's. dibbledobble1 kai savage • 19 minutes ago

"Vichy" is a good descriptor for these cruds. I would go as far as "Quislings" too.

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