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Sustained anti-Trump Hysteria in major neoliberal MSM

The main issue in this election is that the Neoliberal Imperial Oligarchy has now taken off the mask, they have abandoned the pretense of "Coke Pepsi" two party competition to unite behind the defender of status quo interests, with WikiLeaks detailing the gory details of their corruption and malfeasance

"Terrible things we expect from Donald Trump, we’ve actually already seen from Hillary Clinton" Jill Stein

The neoliberal MSM are completely dedicated to defeating Trump and do not even pretend to be objective anymore. As Trump mentioned they are enemy of the people (that does not mean that Trump is people's friend ;-). They fan out anti-Russian hysteria and want to "kick the can down the road" despite the crisis of neoliberalism

Russiagate actually is IntelliGate --  the story of “a stab-in-the-back” plot of neoliberal elite, trying to steal the election using Deep State capabilities. 

Is the curse of the TIME magazine cover helped Trump ? The neoliberals have the ultimate Super PAC: It’s called the mainstream media.

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"There is one political party in this country, and that is the party of money. It has two branches, the Republicans and the Democrats, the chief difference between which is that the Democrats are better at concealing their scorn for the average man."

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“The Democrats are the foxes, and the Republicans are the wolves – and they both want to devour you.” So what does that make Libertarians? Avian flu viruses?”

-- Leonard Pinkney

The race is no contest when you own both horses. That is why no matter which political party is in power nothing really changes other than the packaging. The puppets who drink at the champagne fountains of the powerful do the bidding of their masters. The people are superfluous to the process.

-- Daniel Estulin

In the “democracy” that America has evolved to, money counts more than people. In past elections, the votes were counted, now they are going to start weighing them.

America The Counter-Revolution - Salem-News.Com

(T)he rich elites of (the USA) have far more in common with their counterparts in London, Paris, and Tokyo than with their fellow American citizens … the rich disconnect themselves from the civic life of the nation and from any concern about its well being except as a place to extract loot. Our plutocracy now lives like the British in colonial India: in the place and ruling it, but not of it.”

-- Mike Lofgren

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[Jul 05, 2020] Watch: Protesters Pull Down Christopher Columbus Statue In Baltimore, Dump In Harbor

Looks like the most powerful complain for re-election of Trump
Jul 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

The statue, dedicated in 1984, is the latest monument to be destroyed in what President Trump dubbed the "left-wing cultural revolution" by "angry mobs."

According to the Baltimore Sun , the Columbus statue has been the site of a wreath-laying ceremony right before the annual Columbus Day parade, which, in 2019 was replaced with the Italian Heritage Festival.

Republican state delegates and Italian-American activists held a press conference at the statue last month to ask Gov. Larry Hogan and Baltimore Mayor Bernard C. "Jack" Young to preserve and protect the memorials , following activists' comments about pulling down the monuments themselves and the introduction of a City Council bill this week to rename one of them in honor of victims of police violence.

The downed statue is one of three monuments to Columbus in Baltimore. - Baltimore Sun

https://twitter.com/i/status/1279588928736104449

erhaps some thoughts by Matt Taibbi are worth repeating ( via SubStack ):

Much of America has watched in quizzical silence in recent weeks as crowds declared war on an increasingly incoherent succession of historical symbols. Maybe you nodded as Confederate general Albert Pike was toppled or even when Christopher Columbus was beheaded, but it got a little weird when George Washington was emblazoned with "Fuck Cops" and set on fire , or when they went after Ulysses S. Grant , abolitionist Colonel Hans Christian Heg , " Forward ," (a seven-foot-tall female figure meant to symbolize progress ), the Portland, Oregon " Elk statue ," or my personal favorite, the former slave Miguel de Cervantes , whose cheerful creations Don Quixote and Sancho Panza were apparently mistaken for reals and had their eyes lashed red in San Francisco.

Was a What the Fuck? too much to ask? It was! In the space of a few weeks the level of discourse in the news media dropped so low, the fear of being shamed as a deviationist so high, that most of the weirder incidents went uncovered. Leading press organs engaged in real-time Soviet-style airbrushing. Here's how the Washington Post described a movement that targeted Spanish missionary Junipero Serra , Abraham Lincoln (a " single-handed symbol of white supremacy ," according to UW-Madison students), an apple cider press sculpture , abolitionist Mathias Baldwin , and the first all-Black volunteer regiment in the Civil War , among others.


lockandload , 52 seconds ago

BLM thugs have already started going after patriots. They ambushed our governor at the small town of Ackley Iowa. They were stalking her as she visited companies providing essential services during the pandemic. Her driver refused to stop, likely saving her life. One BLM thug was hit but not seriously injured. They are not waiting to run out of statues. We ordinary Americans must be heavily armed at all times now. Midwest states are full of illegals, who serve the left as an army. Open civil war is upon us whether we would have it or not.

warsev , 3 minutes ago

What these malicious rioters don't realize is that they are handing the November election to DJT and Republicans for senate and house. Average Americans look on the footage that accompanies this article with revulsion; for the ideas and the people behind them. Trump will walk away with 2020. Just keep it up, loony lefties.

vic and blood , 4 minutes ago

We have been in a race and culture war with multiple factions for some time. The presumed winner is not overtly participating.

Most white people are oblivious, though that is changing. Too bad we are demographically doomed.

SolidGold , 1 minute ago

Divide and conquer. Who creates that genius?

NumberNone , 12 minutes ago

Was in downtown Baltimore less than 2 years ago, it felt like you were one person away from someone that wanted to rob you. The downtown had all the usual suspects of faux high end shopping but the vibe was one of John Wayne Gacy in his clown suit...it had all the look and feel that was supposed to make you happy but it was rotten to the core.

Whoa Dammit , 13 minutes ago

We can't keep coddling these stupid brats. It's time to start making their parents pay for the mess and destruction that their ill raised offspring cause.

GoldRulesPaperDrools , 17 minutes ago

Protesters == pavement apes

House of Cards , 17 minutes ago

Terrorists you mean

Watt Supremacissss , 16 minutes ago

Crybullies.

GoldRulesPaperDrools , 15 minutes ago

Redundant but accurate ... +100_000

Silver Savior , 17 minutes ago

Columbus was a dickhead anyway.

NumberNone , 9 minutes ago

So we tear apart the country for a guy that held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach...if you're gonna pass judgement and replace other people's icons you might want to make better choices.

Blackdawg7 , 43 minutes ago

I've never been a fan of Christopher Columbus but witnessing these know-nothing sanctimonious twits destroy public property while virtue signalling makes my blood boil.

Workdove , 44 minutes ago

Not worth the 10 years in jail...

vic and blood , 50 minutes ago

History's losers are terrorizing, and soon to be tyrannizing us because Caucasians are too civilized and docile.

Every race and tribe is programmed by God to attempt to dominate.

As an adherent of the non-aggression principle, I don't care for the binary choice, but accept it.

Either dominate or be dominated. Only cucks believe in co-existence. I assure you our rivals do not believe in peaceful co-existence.

unionbroker , 1 hour ago

Christopher Columbus sails out into the unknown where no man has gone before. What the **** has BLM done. Put the statues back up and throw BLM in the water

[Jul 04, 2020] Typically monuments are only desecrated, defaced, toppled or destroyed by the enemies of those who built them like happnedwith post Soviet states; woke mob is irrational and is an exception; in no way they try demolishe neoliberlaism in the USA

They probably can pus a smartphone instead of demolished monuments. Their view of police as a brutal occupying force is naive, because police is just a muscle, and it is not "white supremacy" that is behind them. They are fighting sypmtom, not the root case.
Jul 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Submitted by GEFIRA,

We all remember those shots. American troops are entering Baghdad. A tank stops somewhere in the city, cautiously, in the vicinity of a Saddam Hussein monument. After a few minutes of apparent inactivity, a crowd is beginning to form around the monument. The crowd is not all that big. It rallies around the figure of Iraq's president. Soon an American soldier climbs the monument and puts an American flag on it. An Iraqi intervenes, so the flag is replaced with the Iraqi one. And then, then some individuals begin to climb the statue, a crane arrives from somewhere, a steel rope is attached to the monument and the crane drives slowly back, taunting the line and gradually slanting the president's image to its feet. Eventually the figure drops to the ground and the cheering people dance around it, deliver it kicks and carry some of the pieces that fell off in the process away.

The alien forces have conquered the capital city of the enemy and performed an age-old ritual that victors used to perform in the presence of the vanquished: Americans demolished the material symbol of the enemy's sovereignty and by doing it they also humiliated the routed nation.

In the nineties of the 20th century we could all see angry Russians in Moscow, but also angry Poles in Warsaw and equally angry residents of other European capitals tearing down monuments from the communist era, especially those of Comrade Felix Dzerzhinsky, the notorious head of the Cheka (from: Всероссийская чрезвычайная комиссия, i.e. Vserossiyskaya chrezvychaynaya komissiya = The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission).

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Since the dawn of history monuments would be put up and torn down. Either act reflected a huge political, social, religious or demographic change. Monuments are erected by common consent of the majority of a given (national, social, religious, political) community, in which case they are wanted as a tribute to or a memory of the community's most cherished heroes or values, or they are enforced by occupying forces, in which case they are hated by those against whose will they have been put up.

Monuments are only desecrated, defaced, toppled or destroyed by the enemies of those who built them. Americans in Iraq and a part of Iraqi nation was against Saddam Hussein; a rather large part of the Russian nation nurtured bitter memories concerning the henchmen of their ancestors like Felix Dzerzhinsky, so they vented their anger on his images the moment an opportunity presented itself. The divide between those who put up the monuments and those who hated the sight of them was in each case insurmountable. What was dear to the former, was abhorrent to the latter.

Recently a huge wave of monument desecration and monument removal has swept the United States and to a much lesser extent Europe. It is mostly the heroes of the American South – generals of the Army of the Confederate States – that are targeted, but not only. Also abolitionists, 1) fighters for American independence of other nationalities, 2) Christian missionaries 3) and even Jesus Christ himself. 4) John Wayne may not be spared the same fate either 5) so much so that a monument to a Portland elk – his ancestor was presumably a slave owner and the elk – a confirmed racist – fell victim to the rage of American iconoclasts. 6)

If Americans torch their national flag, then US needs no enemies.

All this is taking place amid riots caused by the death of a frequent prison inmate who was caught by the police while suspected of paying with counterfeit money. The activists of the Black Lives Matter movement, supported by Antifa 7) and heavily sponsored by the powers that be and spurned on by the democrats performed the usual acts of protest: burning cars and looting shops. This time two qualitatively new elements have been added: one is the toppling or desecration of monuments and the other is forcing the police officers to knee to the rioters. All this is happening because it is wanted by at least a significant part of the establishment, democrats in the first place, who having failed to impeach Donald Trump, having stopped America's and the world's economies due to the so called pandemic now are playing another trump card in yet another effort to thwart the president incumbent from being elected for the second term.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890 Shamelessness as a revolutionary act ( which see )

The democrats have decided to use American blacks to create chaos and make a distressing impression on US citizens who should come to the conclusion that Donald Trump is not capable of running the country. History provides ample examples when a part of the elites willing to topple the current ruler would resort to the help of the masses in order to force the ruler's abdication or resignation. Such was the case in France in the run-up to the French Revolution, such was the case in Russia in the run-up to the Russian revolution. In France it was the so-called third class that was used for the purpose, in Russia it was the proletariat, now in the United States it is the easily excitable blacks. History teaches us that a genie let out of the bottle cannot be put back at a moment's notice. Either the democrats have not been attentive during their history classes or their hatred of Donald Trump is so intense that they don't care.

What a splendid alliance!

What is happening now in the Land of the Free makes the whole world wonder. It fits the definition of a cultural revolution – modelled on its Chinese or Bolshevik predecessors – or a colour revolution known from the streets of Belgrade, Tunis, Cairo, Tbilisi, Kiev and many other places. If the latter is the correct interpretation then the question arises whether this time the process was initiated – as usual – by the CIA or whether it is the boomerang hitting back the thrower. Be that as it may – power struggle apart – the events reveal a few important things.

[1] Americans are not a uniform, coherent nation and never will be: it is always blacks against whites, though the discrimination laws are a thing of the past, how much more slavery. Assimilation or integration – so much propagated in Europe in view of the influx of the people from the Third World – does not work in the least. The two races share the same terrain, language and religion and still remain far part.

[2] Monument desecration and removal is a fight against memory. Memoriae damnatio or the Orwellian black hole is a well-known historical phenomenon. Invaders of Egypt necessarily obliterated the images of pharaohs; Arab conquerors smashed images of ancient heroes or Christian saints; Christians would destroy pagan idols; Byzantine iconoclasts raised their hands against paintings depicting Jesus Christ and saints; protestants would do the same a couple of centuries later in northern and western Europe; French revolutionaries would even stoop down to extracting corpses of the long-dead French kings – Capetians, Valois, Bourbons – and desecrating them; Bolsheviks in Russia would do the same with the remnants of the tsarist past; even worse: factions of Bolsheviks would delete from very recent memory yesterday's comrades.

[3] The BLM movement is racist to the core. It is aimed against whites and whites alone. It is strong because it is supported by the democratic party and its adherents and a number of foundations. That it is anti-white is evident. White actors have been discouraged from impersonating or even voicing characters of colour, which, however, is not the case when it comes to black actors who are increasingly frequently cast in typically white roles. It is only and exclusively whites who are accused of being racist.

[4] Humiliation of the white population and especially of the police. The pictures of white people kneeling to blacks and of the policemen – armed to their teeth – to the rioters have been spread worldwide. It is an act of humiliation pure touted of course as an act of interracial reconciliation and mutual respect.

[5] As usual, whenever a black gets killed in a squabble or a scuffle African-Americans, Antifa and the mainstream media are quick to pass judgement without waiting for the court sentence, which runs counter to the well-established procedure that no one is deemed guilty until proven. The pressure exerted by the rioters and the media without doubt negatively affects the decision of the judges who later deal with the case.

[6] What is happening is certainly wanted by a large part of the establishment or else it wouldn't have been happening. Black rioters know that they can enjoy a lot of leeway and they act accordingly, looting and burning and showing disrespect for the law and the police. Many a mayor or police chief – usually a democrat and a black – under the pretext of deescalating the conflicts withdraws the law enforcement units from parts of the city that they are in charge of. Consider the so-called autonomous zones in Seattle and New York held for a time by rioters. The powers that be could suppress the riots within 24 hours if they only wanted to. As it is, they are using irascible black communities (agitated by Antifa activists) to create turmoil and thus to achieve political goals. Just picture to yourself a rally of genuine Nazis raising their hands in the Roman salute: how long would they hold a public space?

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Fist was the emblem of Communists , South African black fighters and the anti-Miloshevich Otpor movement in Serbia.

People occupying parts of the city called autonomous zones remind the Kiev Maidan protesters. They spend days and nights doing nothing, but somehow they do not go hungry. In both cases the police are either inactive or indolent. The Maidan riots in Kiev brought about the change of the government. The powers that be must be counting on the same in the Dis-United States of America.

How do we know that the riots are instigated, sponsored and used by the powers that be? Precisely because of the inactivity and indolence of the police, because of the inactivity and indolence of local; authorities, because of the media's condoning tone towards the events. Lastly, history teaches us that revolutions, are made by means of popular protests and these protests are paid by very rich individuals. Professional revolutionaries whose task it was to destabilize Russia at the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th centuries were in the pocket of Alexander Parvus (born: Israel Gelfand) and Jacob Schiff. Individuals that later became the driving forces of the coup d'etat – Leon Trotsky (born: Lev Bronstein), creator of the Red Army – did not have to bother about their living.

The deletion of historical memory and the renunciation of the heroes of the past paves the way for replacing the United States of America with something new. Maybe the Union of Soviet States of America? At present it is the images, effigies, and monuments that are beheaded, trampled upon, kicked and drowned. Tomorrow it may very likely be people. Such are the dynamics of any revolutionary movement.

Toppling of monuments ushers in a new era.

References:

1. Hans Christian Heg was an abolitionist who died trying to end slavery, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel .
2. Rioters vandalise statue of Polish-US hero Tadeusz Kościuszko as violent protests erupt across America, The First News .
3. Junipero Serra statue toppled in downtown L.A., Los Angeles Times .
4. Shaun King: 'STATUES of the White European They Claim Is Jesus Should Also Come Down', Black Enterprise .
5. Democrats want John Wayne Airport renamed after 'I believe in white supremacy' interview resurfaces, CNN.com .
6. Iconic Portland elk statue removed from downtown after fire set during protest, The Oregonian .
7. What's Antifa and its role in Black Lives Matter protests? TRT World .

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[Jul 04, 2020] Is America Heading For Civil War? by Brandon Smith

The guy does not understand that the Uniparty (Cola Pepsi dichotonomy) drives riots to avoid questions about deterioration of standard of living of lower 80% of population, illicit enrichment of financial oligarchy, privatization of healthcare by private equity sharks and other ills of neoliberalism
There will be no civil war. Most of the events are just directed toward winning November elections and financed with this explicit purpose via usual color revolution channels (Soros and Co) . When a vulture capitalist (Romney) supports the movement, you can be sure that it is fake.
Notable quotes:
"... In last week's article I discussed the issue of American "balkanization" and the rapid migration of conservatives and moderates from large population centers and states that are becoming militant in their progressive ideology. ..."
"... Others are here because they can't stand the hostility of identity politics, cancel culture and race riots. Either way, they are fleeing places with decidedly leftist influences. ..."
Jul 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

In last week's article I discussed the issue of American "balkanization" and the rapid migration of conservatives and moderates from large population centers and states that are becoming militant in their progressive ideology. In my home state of Montana there has been a surge of people trying to escape the chaos and oppression of leftist states. Some are here because of the pandemic and the harsh restrictions they had to endure during the first lockdowns. Others are here because they can't stand the hostility of identity politics, cancel culture and race riots. Either way, they are fleeing places with decidedly leftist influences.

Uprooting and moving to an entirely new place is not an easy thing to do, especially in the middle of a pandemic. For many people, such an idea would have been unthinkable only a few years ago. Believe me, moving to a place like the Rocky Mountain Redoubt is not an easy transition for most. Hopefully these people understand that they will have to make extensive preparations for the rough winter and be ready to work hard in the spring and summer months to survive. Maybe they don't realize yet how tough it is here; maybe they know and don't care.

That's how bad the situation has become – Rational and reasonable people are willing to leave behind their old life and risk it all to keep a margin of freedom.

In my view it is clear that the political left has gone so far off the rails into its own cultism that there is no coming back. There can be no reconciliation between the two sides, so we must separate, or we must fight. I advocate for separation first for a number of reasons:

I fully realize that the third outcome is the most likely. War is probably inevitable. Why? Because collectivists and narcissists are never satisfied. They desire unlimited control over the lives of others and they will use any means to get that control no matter how destructive. Separating from them is only a stop-gap that allows us to take the superior position. Through peaceful migration, we set the pace of the conflict. Eventually they will come after us, and there will be no doubt about our response then. There will be no way to spin the result in their favor, no way for them to play the victims.

[Jul 03, 2020] My take on Tucker and Maddow: both serve those who write their paychecks, but one of the two bosses is a better businessman.

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Piotr Berman , Jul 3 2020 5:43 utc | 96

My take on Tucker and Maddow: both serve those who write their paychecks, but one of the two bosses is a better businessman.

Tucker does not duplicate Hannity which lets them serve different (if overlapping) segments of the audience. Showing Paralimpil and Gabbard to the viewers did not lead to any major perturbation in American politics, but it lets his viewer feel that they are better informed than the fools who watch Maddow. And it helps that to a degree they are.

uncle tungsten , Jul 3 2020 6:53 utc | 103

JC #72

I get that Tucker invites good a reasonable people on his show and gives voice space where they would not otherwise get it. That is deliberate.

I bet you that the stats show that the demented monotone oozing out of MSNBC and CNN etc has been a serious turn off for a sector of audience that is well informed and exercise critical faculties. That is exactly what Tucker needs to pay for his program as I would be fairly sure these people are Consumers of a desirable degree and advertisers like Tucker's formula and Fox Bosses like Tuckers income generator.

I don't think it is more complex than that and his bosses will entertain most heresies as long as the program generates advertiser demand for that time slot.

So Tucker is OK and he is reasonable and he will interview a broad spectrum. Good for him. But he smooths the pillow and caresses the establishment arse.

[Jul 03, 2020] Tucker: Woke movement ignores the fact that Christover Columbus was not involved in detaining of Floyd

Pandemic of hysteria and other interesting thing happening in the USA
Jul 03, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Streak 264
, 17 hours ago (edited)

The world has gone batshit crazy.


Lucky Sniper
, 4 hours ago

"At any moment millions of human beings may become smitten with a new madness" - Carl Jung. Psychoanalyst


Zulu Zulu
, 5 hours ago

Cancel every holiday in America. Everyone needs to be working 24 hours a day to fix this country.

[Jul 01, 2020] Russiagate's Last Gasp by Ray McGovern

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... One can read this most recent flurry of Russia, Russia, Russia paid the Taliban to kill GIs as an attempt to pre-empt the findings into Russiagate's origins. ..."
"... But Moscow recognized from the start that Washington was embarked on a fool's errand in Vietnam. There would be no percentage in getting directly involved. And so, the Soviets sat back and watched smugly as the Vietnamese Communists drove U.S. forces out on their "own resources." As was the case with the Viet Cong, the Taliban needs no bounty inducements from abroad. ..."
"... Former CIA Director William Casey said: "We'll know when our disinformation program is complete, when everything the American public believes is false." ..."
"... If Durham finds it fraudulent (not a difficult task), the heads of senior intelligence and law enforcement officials may roll. That would also mean a still deeper dent in the credibility of Establishment media that are only too eager to drink the Kool Aid and to leave plenty to drink for the rest of us. ..."
"... I am not a regular Maddow-watcher, but to me she seemed unhinged -- actually, well over the top. ..."
Jun 29, 2020 | consortiumnews.com

One can read this most recent flurry of Russia, Russia, Russia paid the Taliban to kill GIs as an attempt to pre-empt the findings into Russiagate's origins.

By Ray McGovern
Special to Consortium News

O n Friday The New York Times featured a report based on anonymous intelligence officials that the Russians were paying bounties to have U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan with President Donald Trump refusing to do anything about it. The flurry of Establishment media reporting that ensued provides further proof, if such were needed, that the erstwhile "paper of record" has earned a new moniker -- Gray Lady of easy virtue.

Over the weekend, the Times ' dubious allegations grabbed headlines across all media that are likely to remain indelible in the minds of credulous Americans -- which seems to have been the main objective. To keep the pot boiling this morning, The New York Times' David Leonhardt's daily web piece , "The Morning" calls prominent attention to a banal article by a Heather Cox Richardson, described as a historian at Boston College, adding specific charges to the general indictment of Trump by showing "how the Trump administration has continued to treat Russia favorably." The following is from Richardson's newsletter on Friday:

Historian Richardson added:

"All of these friendly overtures to Russia were alarming enough when all we knew was that Russia attacked the 2016 U.S. election and is doing so again in 2020. But it is far worse that those overtures took place when the administration knew that Russia had actively targeted American soldiers. this bad news apparently prompted worried intelligence officials to give up their hope that the administration would respond to the crisis, and instead to leak the story to two major newspapers."

Hear the siren? Children, get under your desks!

The Tall Tale About Russia Paying for Dead U.S. Troops

Times print edition readers had to wait until this morning to learn of Trump's statement last night that he was not briefed on the cockamamie tale about bounties for killing, since it was, well, cockamamie.

Late last night the president tweeted: "Intel just reported to me that they did not find this info credible, and therefore did not report it to me or the VP. "

For those of us distrustful of the Times -- with good reason -- on such neuralgic issues, the bounty story had already fallen of its own weight. As Scott Ritter pointed out yesterday:

"Perhaps the biggest clue concerning the fragility of the New York Times ' report is contained in the one sentence it provides about sourcing -- "The intelligence assessment is said to be based at least in part on interrogations of captured Afghan militants and criminals." That sentence contains almost everything one needs to know about the intelligence in question, including the fact that the source of the information is most likely the Afghan government as reported through CIA channels. "

And who can forget how "successful" interrogators can be in getting desired answers.

Russia & Taliban React

The Kremlin called the Times reporting "nonsense an unsophisticated plant," and from Russia's perspective the allegations make little sense; Moscow will see them for what they are -- attempts to show that Trump is too "accommodating" to Russia.

A Taliban spokesman called the story "baseless," adding with apparent pride that "we" have done "target killings" for years "on our own resources."

Russia is no friend of the Taliban. At the same time, it has been clear for several years that the U.S. would have to pull its troops out of Afghanistan. Think back five decades and recall how circumspect the Soviets were in Vietnam. Giving rhetorical support to a fraternal Communist nation was de rigueur and some surface-to-air missiles gave some substance to that support.

But Moscow recognized from the start that Washington was embarked on a fool's errand in Vietnam. There would be no percentage in getting directly involved. And so, the Soviets sat back and watched smugly as the Vietnamese Communists drove U.S. forces out on their "own resources." As was the case with the Viet Cong, the Taliban needs no bounty inducements from abroad.

Besides, the Russians knew painfully well -- from their own bitter experience in Afghanistan, what the outcome of the most recent fool's errand would be for the U.S. What point would they see in doing what The New York Times and other Establishment media are breathlessly accusing them of?

CIA Disinformation; Casey at Bat

Former CIA Director William Casey said: "We'll know when our disinformation program is complete, when everything the American public believes is false."

Casey made that remark at the first cabinet meeting in the White House under President Ronald Reagan in early 1981, according to Barbara Honegger, who was assistant to the chief domestic policy adviser. Honegger was there, took notes, and told then Senior White House correspondent Sarah McClendon, who in turn made it public.

If Casey's spirit is somehow observing the success of the disinformation program called Russiagate, one can imagine how proud he must be. But sustained propaganda success can be a serious challenge. The Russiagate canard has lasted three and a half years. This last gasp effort, spearheaded by the Times , to breathe more life into it is likely to last little more than a weekend -- the redoubled efforts of Casey-dictum followers notwithstanding.

Russiagate itself has been unraveling, although one would hardly know it from the Establishment media. No collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Even the sacrosanct tenet that the Russians hacked the DNC emails published by WikiLeaks has been disproven , with the head of the DNC-hired cyber security firm CrowdStrike admitting that there is no evidence that the DNC emails were hacked -- by Russia or anyone else .

U.S. Attorney John Durham. (Wikipedia)

How long will it take the Times to catch up with the CrowdStrike story, available since May 7?

The media is left with one sacred cow: the misnomered "Intelligence Community" Assessment of Jan. 6, 2017, claiming that President Putin himself ordered the hacking of the DNC. That "assessment" done by "hand-picked analysts" from only CIA, FBI and NSA (not all 17 intelligence agencies of the "intelligence community") reportedly is being given close scrutiny by U. S. Attorney John Durham, appointed by the attorney general to investigate Russiagate's origins.

If Durham finds it fraudulent (not a difficult task), the heads of senior intelligence and law enforcement officials may roll. That would also mean a still deeper dent in the credibility of Establishment media that are only too eager to drink the Kool Aid and to leave plenty to drink for the rest of us.

Do not expect the media to cease and desist, simply because Trump had a good squelch for them last night -- namely, the "intelligence" on the "bounties" was not deemed good enough to present to the president.

(As a preparer and briefer of The President's Daily Brief to Presidents Reagan and HW Bush, I can attest to the fact that -- based on what has been revealed so far -- the Russian bounty story falls far short of the PDB threshold.)

Rejecting Intelligence Assessments

Nevertheless, the corporate media is likely to play up the Trump administration's rejection of what the media is calling the "intelligence assessment" about Russia offering -- as Rachel Maddow indecorously put it on Friday -- "bounty for the scalps of American soldiers in Afghanistan."

I am not a regular Maddow-watcher, but to me she seemed unhinged -- actually, well over the top.

The media asks, "Why does Trump continue to disrespect the assessments of the intelligence community?" There he goes again -- not believing our "intelligence community; siding, rather, with Putin."

In other words, we can expect no let up from the media and the national security miscreant leakers who have served as their life's blood. As for the anchors and pundits, their level of sophistication was reflected yesterday in the sage surmise of Face the Nation's Chuck Todd, who Aaron Mate reminds us, is a "grown adult and professional media person." Todd asked guest John Bolton: "Do you think that the president is afraid to make Putin mad because maybe Putin did help him win the election, and he doesn't want to make him mad for 2020?"

"This is as bad as it gets," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi yesterday, adding the aphorism she memorized several months ago: "All roads lead to Putin." The unconscionably deceitful performance of Establishment media is as bad as it gets, though that, of course, was not what Pelosi meant. She apparently lifted a line right out of the Times about how Trump is too "accommodating" toward Russia.

One can read this most recent flurry of Russia, Russia, Russia as a reflection of the need to pre-empt the findings likely to issue from Durham and Attorney General William Barr in the coming months -- on the theory that the best defense is a pre-emptive offense. Meanwhile, we can expect the corporate media to continue to disgrace itself.

Vile

Caitlin Johnstone, typically, pulls no punches regarding the Russian bounty travesty:

"All parties involved in spreading this malignant psyop are absolutely vile, but a special disdain should be reserved for the media class who have been entrusted by the public with the essential task of creating an informed populace and holding power to account. How much of an unprincipled whore do you have to be to call yourself a journalist and uncritically parrot the completely unsubstantiated assertions of spooks while protecting their anonymity? How much work did these empire fluffers put into killing off every last shred of their dignity? It boggles the mind.

It really is funny how the most influential news outlets in the Western world will uncritically parrot whatever they're told to say by the most powerful and depraved intelligence agencies on the planet, and then turn around and tell you without a hint of self-awareness that Russia and China are bad because they have state media.

Sometimes all you can do is laugh."

Ray McGovern works for Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. During his 27-years as a CIA analyst he led the Soviet Foreign Policy Branch and prepared The President's Daily Brief for Presidents Nixon, Ford, and Reagan. In retirement, he co-created Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

The views expressed are solely those of the author and may or may not reflect those of Consortium News.


Aaron , June 30, 2020 at 12:33

If anything, all roads lead to Israel. You have to consider the sources, the writers, journalists, editors, owners, and rich people from which these stories come. This latest ridiculous story will certainly help Trump, so the sources of these Russia stories are actually fans of Trump, they love his tax cuts, he helps their revenue streams, and he's the greatest friend and Zionist to Israel so far and also Wall Street. I think most Americans can understand that Putin doesn't possess all of the supernatural all-encompassing powers and mind-controlling omnipotence that Pelosi and her ilk attribute to him. That's why at his rallies, when Trump points to where the journalists are and sneers at them calling them bloodsuckers and parasites and all that, the people love it, because of stuff like this. It's like saying "look at those assholes, those liberal journalists over at CNN say that you voted for me because of Vladimir Putin?!" It just pisses off people to keep hearing that mantra over and over. So it's a gift to Trump, it helps him so much. And seeing that super expensive helicopter flying around the barren rocky slopes of the middle east, seems like it's out of some Rambo movie. And like Rambo, the tens of thousands of American servicemen that were sacrificed over there, and still commit suicides at a horrific rate, have always been treated by the architects of these wars that only helped the state of Israel, as the expendables. Whether it's a black life, a soldier fighting in Iraq, a foreclosed on homeowner by Mnuchin's work, or a brainwashed New York Times subscriber, we don't seem to matter, we seem to feel the truth that to these people were are indeed expendable. The question to answer I think is, not who is a Russian asset, but who is an Israeli asset?

Andrew Thomas , June 30, 2020 at 12:04

Great reporting as usual, Ray. But special kudos for the NYT moniker 'Gray lady of easy virtue.' I almost laughed out loud. A rare occurrence these days.

Michael P Goldenberg , June 30, 2020 at 10:45

Thanks for another cogent assessment of our mainstream media's utter depravity and reckless irresponsibility. They truly have become nothing more than presstitutes and enemies of the people.

Bob Van Noy , June 30, 2020 at 10:42

"It's all over but the shouting" goes the idiom and I think that is true of Russiagate, especially, thank all goodness, here at Robert Parry's Journalistic site!

I have a theory that propaganda has a lifetime but when it reaches a truly absurd level, it's all over. Clearly, we've reached that level Thanks to all at CN

evelync , June 30, 2020 at 10:33

You call Rachel Madcow "unhinged", Ray ..well, yes, I'm shocked at myself that there was a time that I tuned in to her show .
Sorry Ms Madcow you've turned yourself into a character from Dr Strangelove

The key threats – climate change, pandemics, nuclear war – and why we continue to fail to address these real things while filling the airwaves instead with the tiresome russia,russia,russia mantra – per Accam's razer suggests that it serves very short term interests of money and power whoever whatever the MICIMATT answers to.
"Former CIA Director William Casey said: "We'll know when our disinformation program is complete, when everything the American public believes is false." "

Who exactly was the "we" Casey was answering to each day?
I know it wasn't me or the planet or humanity or anyone I know.

Bill Rice , June 30, 2020 at 10:20

If only articles like this were read by the masses. Maybe people would get a clue. Blind patriotism is not patriotic at all. Skepticism is healthy.

torture this , June 30, 2020 at 09:54

It's a shame that VIPS reporting is top secret. It's the only information coming from people familiar with the ins and outs of spy agencies that can be trusted.

GeorgeG , June 30, 2020 at 09:45

Ray,
You missed the juicy stuff. See: tass.com/russia/1172369 Russia Foreign Ministry: NYT article on Russia in Afghanistan fake from US intelligence. Here is the kicker:

The Russian Foreign Ministry pointed to US intelligence agencies' involvement in Afghan drug trafficking.
"Should we speak about facts – moreover, well-known [facts], it has not long been a secret in Afghanistan that members of the US intelligence community are involved in drug trafficking, cash payments to militants for letting transport convoys pass through, kickbacks from contracts implementing various projects paid by American taxpayers. The list of their actions can be continued if you want," the ministry said.

The Russian Foreign Ministry suggested that those actions might stem from the fact that the US intelligence agencies "do not like that our and their diplomats have teamed up to facilitate the start of peace talks between Kabul and the Taliban (outlawed in Russia – TASS)."

"We can understand their feelings as they do not want to be deprived of the above mentioned sources of the off-the-books income," the ministry stressed.

Thomas Fortin , June 30, 2020 at 12:08

Affirmative Ray, two of my old comrades who were SF both did security on CIA drug flights back in the day, and later on both while under VA care decided to die off God I miss them, great guys and honest souls.

DH Fabian , June 30, 2020 at 09:41

One point remains a mystery. Why would anyone think that when the US invades a country, someone would need to pay the people of that country a bounty to fight back?

Mark Clarke , June 30, 2020 at 09:27

If Biden wins the presidency and the Democrats take back the Senate, Russiagate will strengthen and live on for many years.

Al , June 30, 2020 at 12:11

All to deflect from Clinton's private server while SOS, 30,000 deleted emails, and the sale of US interests via the Clinton Foundation.

Zedster , June 30, 2020 at 12:56

That, or we learn Chinese.

Skip Scott , June 30, 2020 at 09:08

Another interesting aside is that Tulsi Gabbard's "Stop funding Terrorists" bill went nowhere in Congress. So it's Ok for us and our Arab allies to fund them, but not the Russians? Maybe we should go back to calling them the Mujahideen?

Thomas Scherrer , June 30, 2020 at 12:10

Preach, my child.

And aloha to the last decent woman in those halls.

HARRY M HAYS , June 30, 2020 at 09:01

Do you not think that the timing of all this (months after the report was allegedly presented to Trump) is an attempt to stop Trump from signing an agreement with the Taliban that will allow him to withdraw American troops from that country?

Skip Scott , June 30, 2020 at 08:58

Great article Ray, but I have to question whether Durham will fulfill his role and get to the bottom of the origins of RussiaGate. If he actually does name names and prosecute, how will the MSM cover it? What will Ms. Madcow have to say? Ever since the fizzling failure of the Epstein investigation, I have had my doubts about Barr and his minion Durham. I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell.

Thomas Fortin , June 30, 2020 at 12:24

I think on here I can talk about this issue you brought up Scott, on other places when I tried to have a rational discussion on the matter, I got shouted down, well they tried anyway.
I highly suggest to any readers of this here on Consortium to get Gore Vidal's old book, Imperial America, and also watch his old documentary, THE UNITED STATES OF AMNESIA.
Here is the point of it,
"Officially we have two parties which are in fact wings of a common party of property with two right wings. Corporate wealth finances each. Since the property party controls every aspect of media they have had decades to create a false reality for a citizenry largely uneducated by public schools that teach conformity with an occasional advanced degree in consumerism."
-GORE VIDAL, The United States of Amnesia
Also,
"There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt -- until recently and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties."
? Gore Vidal
Others have pointed out the same like this,
"Nobody should have any illusions. The United States has essentially a one-party system and the ruling party is the business party."
? Noam Chomsky
"In the United States [ ] the two main business-dominated parties, with the support of the corporate community, have refused to reform laws that make it virtually impossible to create new political parties (that might appeal to non-business interests) and let them be effective. Although there is marked and frequently observed dissatisfaction with the Republicans and Democrats, electoral politics is one area where notions of competitions and free choice have little meaning. In some respects the caliber of debate and choice in neoliberal elections tends to be closer to that of the one-party communist state than that of a genuine democracy."
? Robert W. McChesney, Profit Over People: Neoliberalism and Global Order
"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies is a foolish idea. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies."
? Carroll Quigley [1910 – 1977 was an American historian and theorist of the evolution of civilizations. He is remembered for his teaching work as a professor at Georgetown University, for his academic publications.]
Teddy Roosevelt, whose statue is under attack in NYC, had this to say,
"The bosses of the Democratic party and the bosses of the Republican party alike have a closer grip than ever before on the party machines in the States and in the Nation. This crooked control of both the old parties by the beneficiaries of political and business privilege renders it hopeless to expect any far-reaching and fundamental service from either."
-THEODORE ROOSEVELT, The Outlook, July 27, 1912
I suggest also that you look up on line this article, Heads They Win, Tails We Lose: Our Fake Two-Party System
by Prof. Stephen H. Unger at Columbia, here is his concluding thought,
"The drift toward loss of liberty, unending wars, environmental degradation, growing economic inequality can't be stopped easily, but it will never be halted as long as we allow corporate interests to rule our country by means of a pseudo-democracy based on the two-party swindle."
With this all in mind, and if your my age, you might recall about how over the past more then 50 years, no matter which party gets in power, nothing of any significance changes, the wars continue, the transfer of wealth to the few, and the erosion of basic civil liberties continues pretty well unabated.
Trump is surrounded by neo-cons and I expect nothing will happen to change anything. I would get into how most called liberals are hardly that, but in reality neo-cons, but I've said enough for now, when you consider the statements I shared, then the Matrix begins to come unraveled.

Grady , June 30, 2020 at 08:01

Not to mention the potential peace initiative with Afghanistan and Taliban that is looming. Peace is not profitable, so who has the dual interests in maintaining protracted war in a strategic location while ensuring the poppy crop stays the most productive in the world? It seems said poppy production under the pre war Taliban government was minimal as they eliminated most of it. Attacking the Taliban and thwarting its rule allowed for greater production, to the extent it is the global leader in helping to fulfill the opiate demand. Gary Webb established long ago that the intelligence community, specifically the CIA, has somewhat of a tradition in such covert operations and logic would dictate they're vested interest lies in maintaining a high yield crop while feeding the profit center that is the MIC war machine. While certainly a bit digressive, the dots are there to connect.

Paul , June 30, 2020 at 07:54

My friend, I love your columns. Thank you, you have been one of the few sane voices on Russiagate from the beginning.

Sadly most Americans and most people in the world will not receive these simple truths you are telling. (not their fault)

We will continue our fight against the system.

Peace, Paul from South Africa

Voice from Europe , June 30, 2020 at 07:38

Don't think this will be the last Russiagate gasp whoever becomes the next president.
The 'liberal democrats' believe their own delusions and as long as they control the MSM, they won't stop. Lol.

Thomas Fortin , June 30, 2020 at 12:29

You should read my reply to Scott, most of these Democrats are not liberals, but neo-cons who just liberal virtue signal while in reality supporting the neo-con agenda. I hate it how the so called alternative or independent media abuse terms and words, which obscures realities. Anyway, take a look at my reply and the quotes I shared.
"Definition of liberal, one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways, progressive, broad-minded, . willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas, denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."
? Derived from Webster's and the Oxford Dictionaries

"Liberal' comes from the Latin liberalis, which means pertaining to a free man. In politics, to be liberal is to want to extend democracy through change and reform. One can see why that word had to be erased from our political lexicon."
? Gore Vidal, "The Great Unmentionable: Monotheism and its Discontents," The Lowell Lecture, Harvard University, April 20, 1992.

Tom Welsh , June 30, 2020 at 06:23

Er, hypocrisy much?

"'Kill Russians and Iranians, threaten Assad,' says ex-CIA chief backing Clinton"
hXXps://www.rt.com/usa/355291-morrell-kill-russians-clinton/

Tom Welsh , June 30, 2020 at 06:13

Once again I would like to compliment Mr McGovern on his magnificently Biblical appearance. That full set would do credit to any Old Testament prophet.

I see him as the USA's own Jeremiah.

Tom Welsh , June 30, 2020 at 06:12

Seeing that picture of Johnson's sad, wicked bloodhound features really, really makes me wish I had had a chance to be outside his tent pissing in. I'd have been careful to drink as many gallons of beer as possible beforehand.

Although it would have been better, from a humanitarian pont of view, just to set fire to the tent.

Tom Welsh , June 30, 2020 at 06:10

"Historian Richardson "

Clearly a serious exaggeration.

Tom Welsh , June 30, 2020 at 06:09

Ah, the Chinook! The 60-year-old helicopter that epitomises everything Afghan patriots love about the USA. It's big, fat, slow, clumsy, unmanoeuvrable, and may carry enough US troops to make shooting it down a damaging political blow against Washington.

Vivek , June 30, 2020 at 05:43

Ray,
What do you make of Barbara Honeggar's second career as a alternative story peddler?
see hXXps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB21BVFOIjw

CNfan , June 30, 2020 at 03:43

A brilliant piece, with a deft touch depicting the timeless human follies running our foreign policy circus. Real-world experience, perspective, and courage like Ray's were the dream of the drafters of our 1st Amendment. And ending with Caitlin's hammer was effective. As to who benefits? I suspect the neocons – our resident war-addicts and Israeli assets. Paraphrasing Nancy, "All roads lead to Netanyahu."

Ehzal , June 30, 2020 at 03:12

So,Russia what will do in next Upcoming Years during these covid-19.

Realist , June 30, 2020 at 02:54

Ray, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has embraced these allegations against Russia as the gospel truth and has threatened to seek revenge against Putin once he occupies the White House.

He said Americans who serve in the military put their life on the line. "But they should never, never, never ever face a threat like this with their commander in chief turning a blind eye to a foreign power putting a bounty on their heads."

"I'm quite frankly outraged by the report," Biden said. He promised that if he is elected, "Putin will be confronted and we'll impose serious costs on Russia."

This is the kind of warmongering talk that derailed the expected landslide victory for the Queen of Warmongers in 2016. This time round though, Trump has seemingly already swung and badly missed three times in his responses to the Covid outbreak, the public antics attributed to BLM, and the Fed's creation of six trillion dollars in funny money as a gift to the most privileged tycoons on the planet. In baseball, which will not have a season in spite of the farcical theatrics between ownership and players, that's called a "whiff" and gets you sent back to the bench.

According to all the pollsters, Donnie's base of white working class "deplorables" are already abandoning his campaign–bigly, prompting the none-too-keen Biden to assume that over-the-top Russia bashing is back in season, especially since trash-talking Nobel Laureate Obama is now delivering most of the mute sock puppet Biden's lines. It was almost comical to watch Joe do nothing but grin in the framed picture to the left of his old boss during their most recent joint interview with the press. This dangerous re-set of the Cold War is NOT what the people want, nor is it good for them or any living things.

DH Fabian , June 30, 2020 at 10:18

Biden already lost 2020 -- in spite of the widely-disliked Trump. This is why Democrats began working to breath life back into Russia-gate by late last year, setting the stage to blame Russia for their 2020 defeat. We spent the past 25 years detailing the demise of the Democratic Party (replaced by the "New Democrat Party"), and it turned out that the party loyalists didn't hear a word of it.

John A , June 30, 2020 at 02:15

As a viewer from afar, in Europe, I find it mindboggling how the American public seem to believe all this nonsense about Russia. Have the people there really been that dumbed down by chewing gum for the eyes television and disgusting chemical and growth h0rmone laced food? Sad, sad, sad.

Tom Welsh , June 30, 2020 at 06:17

John, I think there is something to what you say about dumbing down. I recall Albert Jay Nock lamenting, in about 1910, how dreadfully US education had already been dumbed down – and things have been going steadily downhill ever since.

But I don't think we can quite release the citizenry from responsibility on account of their ignorance. (Isn't it a legal maxim that ignorance is not an excuse?)

There is surely deep down in most people a sly lust for dominance, a desire to control and forbid and compel; and also a quiet satisfaction at hearing of inferior foreigners being harmed or killed by one's own "world class" armed forces.

TS , June 30, 2020 at 11:14

> As a viewer from afar, in Europe, I find it mindboggling how the American public seem to believe all this nonsense about Russia.

May I remind you that most of the mass media in Europe parrot all this nonsense, and a large segment of the public swallows it?

Charles Familant , June 30, 2020 at 00:50

Mr. McGovern has not made his case. To his question as to why Taliban militants need any additional incentive to target U.S. troops in Afghanistan, it is not far-fetched to believe these militants would welcome additional funds to continue their belligerency. Waging war is not cheap and is especially onerous for relatively small organizations as compared to major powers. What reason would Putin have to pay such bounty? The increase in U.S. troop casualties would provide Trump an additional rationale to bring the troops home, as he had promised during his campaign speeches in 2015 and 2016. This action would be a boon to his re-election prospects. Putin is well aware that if Biden wins in November, there is little likelihood of the hostility in Afghanistan or anywhere else being brought to an end. But, more to the point, the likelihood of U.S. sanctions against Russia being curtailed under a Biden presidency is remote. To what he deemed rhetorical, Mr. McGovern asks how successful were U.S. interrogators of such captured Taliban in the past, I remind him that there were opposing views regarding which techniques were most effective. Might not these interrogators have, in the present case, employed more effective means? Finally, it should not even be a question as to why any news agency does not reveal its sources. But in this case, the New York Times specifically mentions that the National Security Council discussed the intelligence finding in late March. Further, if it is true that Trump, Pence et al ignored the said briefs of which the administration was well aware, this should be no surprise to any of us. Case in point: how long did it take Trump to respond to the present pandemic? One telling observation: Mr. McGovern says that Heather Cox Richardson is "described as a historian at Boston College.' She is not just "described as a historian" Mr. McGovern, she IS a historian at Boston College; in fact, she is a professor at that college and has authored six scholarly works that have been published as books, the most recent of which in March of this year by the Oxford University Press. Mr. McGovern states that the points Richardson made her most most recent newsletter as "banal." I see nothing banal in that newsletter, but rather a list of relevant factual occurrences. Finally (this time it really is final), Mr. McGovern employs the use of sarcasm to discount what Richardson and others have contended regarding this most recent expose. And seems to give more credibility to the comments made by Trump and his cohorts, as though this administration is remarkable for its integrity.

Sam F , June 30, 2020 at 11:05

Plausible interest does not make unsupported accusations a reality. What bounties did the US offer?
Have you forgotten that the US set up Al Qaeda in Afghanistan with weapons to attack the USSR there?

Zhu , June 30, 2020 at 00:34

Come December this year, which losing party will blame which scapegoat? Russia? China? The Man in the Moon? It must be a hard decision!

Zhu , June 30, 2020 at 00:31

Unfortunately, bad ideas and conspiracy fictions rarely disappear completely. But that Afghans need to be paid to kill invaders is the dumbest conspiracy fiction yet.

Thomas Fortin , June 29, 2020 at 21:31

Excellent report Ray, as usual.
Interesting note here, I watched The Hill's Rising program, and listened to young conservative Saagar say, although he does not believe that Russia-gate is credible, he made the statement that Russia is supplying the Taliban weapons and wants us to get out of Afghanistan, and that is considered a fact by all journalists!
Saagar is a bit conflicted, he does not, but does believe the gods of intelligence, like so many did with the Gulf of Tonkin so long ago, I remember that all too well.
As I look out upon the ignorant masses and useful idiots who strain at those Confederate and other monuments, while continuing to elect the same old people back into office who continue the status quo, its a bit discouraging. We were told so long ago about our current situation, that,
"It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising the sovereignty. Usurpation is then an easy attainment, and an usurper soon found. The people themselves become the willing instruments of their own debasement and ruin." [James Monroe, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1817]
As a historian of some sort and educational film maker, I do my best to educate people, though its a bit overwhelming at times how ignorant and fascist brain-washed most are. Monroe, like the other founders knew the secret of maintaining a free and prosperous republic, from the same piece, "Let us, then, look to the great cause, and endeavor to preserve it in full force. Let us by all wise and constitutional measures promote intelligence among the people as the best means of preserving our liberties."
George Carlin got it right about why education "sucks", it was by design, so our work is cut out for us.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
~Thomas Jefferson

GMCasey , June 29, 2020 at 21:25

Why would Putin even bother? America and its endless wars is doing itself in. Afghanistan is said to be," the graveyard of empires." It was for Alexander the Great -- –it was for Russia and I suppose that it will be for America too -- -

DW Bartoo , June 29, 2020 at 20:50

Ray, I certainly hope that Durham and Barr will not wait too long a time to make public the truth about Russiagate.

Indeed, certain heads should, figuratively, roll, and as well, the whole story about who was behind the setting up of Flynn needs to, somehow, make it through the media flack.

Judge Sullivan's antics having been rather thoroughly shot down, though the media is desperately trying to either spin or ignore the reality that it was not merely Flynn that Sullivan was hoping to harm, but also the power of the executive branch relative to the judicial branch.

The role of Obama and of Biden who, apparently, suggested the use of the Logan Act as the means to go after Flynn, who we now know was intentionally entrapped by the intrepid FBI, need to be made clear as well.

Just as with the initial claims that torture was the work of "a few bad apples", when anyone with any insight into such "policy" actions had to have known that it WAS official policy (crafted by Addington, Bybee, and Yoo, as it turned out, directed to do so by the Bush White House), so too, must it be realized that it was not some rogue agents and loose cannons, but actual instructions "from above", explicit or implicit, that "encouraged" the behavior of those who spoke of "Insurance" policies designed to hamper, hinder, and harm the incoming administration.

Clearly, I am no fan of Trump, and while I honestly regard the Rule of Law as essentially a fairytale for the gullible (as the behavior of the "justice" system from the " qualified immunity" of the police, to the "absolute immunity" of prosecutors, judges, and the political class must make clear,to even the most giddy of childish believers in U$ purity, innocence, and exceptionalism, that the "law" serves to protect wealth and power and NOT the public), I should really like to consider that even in a pretend democracy, some things are simply not to be tolerated.

Things, like torture, like fully politicized law enforcement or "intelligence" agencies, like secret court proceedings, where judges may be lied to with total impunity and actual evidence is not required. As well as things like a media thoroughly willing to requrgitate blatant propaganda as "fact" (while having, again, no apparent need of genuine evidenc), or other things like total surveillance, and the destruction of habeas corpus.

One should like to imagine that such things might concern the majority.

Yet, a society that buys into forever wars, lesser-evil voting, and created Hitler like boogeymen, that countenances being lied into wars and consistently lied to about virtually everything, is hardly likely to discern the truth of things until the "Dream" collapses into personal pain, despair, and Depression.

Unless there is an awakening quite beyond that already tearing down statues, but yet still , apparently, unwilling to grasp the totality of the corruption throughout the entire edifice of "authority", of the total failure of a system that has no real legitimacy, except that given it by voters choosing between two sides of the same tyranny, it may be readily imagined, should Biden be "victorious", that Russiagate, Chinagate, Irangate, Venezuelagate, and countless other "Gates" will become Official History.

In which case, this is not a last gasp, of Russiagate, but a new and full head of steam for more of the same.

How easy it has been for the lies to prevail, to become "truth" and to simply disappear the voices of those who ask for evidence, who dare question, who doubt.

How easy to co-opt and destroy efforts to educate or bring about critically necessary change.

There are but a few months for real evidence to be revealed.

If Durham and Barr decide not to "criminalize policy differences", as Obama, the "constitutional scholar", did regarding torture, then what might we imagine will be the future of those who have an understanding of even those lies long being used, and with recent additions, for example, to torture Julian Assange?

All of the deceit has common purpose, it is to maintain absolute control.

If Russiagate is not completely exposed, for all that it is and was intended to be, then quaint little discussions about elite misbehavior will be banished from general awareness, and those who persist in questioning will be rather severely dealt with.

Antonia , June 30, 2020 at 11:43

ABSOLUTELY. Well said. NOW where to make the changes absolutely necessary?

Zalamander , June 29, 2020 at 18:47

Thanks Ray. There are multiple reasons for the continued existance of Russiagate as the Democratic party has no real answers for the economic depression affecting millions of Americans. Neoliberal Joe Biden is also an exceptionally weak presidential candidate, who does not even support universal healthcare for all Americans like every other advanced industrialized country has. That said, the Dems are indeed desperate to deflect attention away from the Durham investigation, as it is bound to expose the total fraud of Crossfire Hurricane.

Sam F , June 29, 2020 at 18:16

Thanks, Ray, a very good summary, with reminders often needed by many in dealing with complex issues.

[Jul 01, 2020] A Single-Handed Symbol Of White Supremacy-- Wisconsin Students Demand Removal Of Abraham Lincoln Statue

Jul 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Saying that Lincoln is the "symbol of white supremacy" has about as much foundation as saying Harvey Milk is the symbol of militant heterosexuality. Both were great leaders who were killed at the height of campaigns for equality. As I discuss below, there are aspects of Lincoln's legacy that are worthy of condemnation but even John Wilkes Booth would dispute the claim of Lincoln as the embodiment of white supremacy.

[Jul 01, 2020] Outrage Erupts After NYT Uses Slain Marine's Photo For -Unsubstantiated- Propaganda -

Jul 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

As we noted earlier Tuesday, several pundits took the DNI and CIA statements as a clear denial that there was anything significant or worthy of briefing the president on regarding alleged "Russian bounties" -- meaning it was likely deemed "chatter" or unsubstantiated rumor picked up either by US or British intelligence -- and subsequently leaked to the press to revive the pretty much dead Russiagate narrative of some level of "Trump-Putin collusion".

In short, when your 'unsubstantiated chatter' hit-piece loses steam, prop it up with a slain Marine .

[Jun 29, 2020] After Iraq WMD and Russia Collusion, we should ask for real evidence instead of the top intelligence sources

Petty scoundrels from NYT are not that inventive. They just want to whitewash Russiagate fiasco. This whole "story" stinks to high heaven. Judy Miller redux - regime-change info ops, coordinated across multiple media organizations.
Notable quotes:
"... After Iraq WMD and Russia Collusion, we should ask for real evidence instead of the "top intelligence sources". And we should not buy we can't provide any evidence because of sources & methods. ..."
"... On a practical note, how was a Taliban soldier militant meant to verify his claim to a bounty? I assume that scalping was not a feasible option, but if you are going to offer a bounty then you are going to want proof that the person claiming that bounty did, indeed, do the job. ..."
Jun 29, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
"Russia offered bounties to Afghan militants to kill US troops" - TTG - Sic Semper Tyrannis

blue peacock | 27 June 2020 at 10:19 PM

After Iraq WMD and Russia Collusion, we should ask for real evidence instead of the "top intelligence sources". And we should not buy we can't provide any evidence because of sources & methods.

Be skeptical of anything published by Pravda on the Hudson and Pravda on the Potomac when it comes to intelligence matters. Especially months before a general election.

Fred | 27 June 2020 at 10:32 PM

On to Moscow! Where's Bomb'n Bolton when we need him? "a European intelligence official told CNN."..... "The official did not specify as to the date of the casualties, their number or nationality, or whether these were fatalities or injuries."

So, unknown official, unknown date, unknown if there were any actual casualties.

"The US concluded that the GRU was behind the interference in the 2016 US election and cyberattacks against the Democratic National Committee and top Democratic officials."

Quick, someone tell the House Impeachment Inquiry Committee! Oh, wait, that was Ukraine. What did Mueller collude, I mean conclude, about that Russian interference?

Let me quote the former acting DNI: "You clearly don't understand how raw intel gets verified. Leaks of partial information to reporters from anonymous sources is dangerous because people like you manipulate it for political gain."

https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1277024942232530945

I believe he was tweeting that to the press, but then they are doing this for political reasons. Lockdowns and socialist revolutionary riots must not be working in the left's favor. I wonder why?

Yeah, Right | 28 June 2020 at 12:50 AM

On a practical note, how was a Taliban soldier militant meant to verify his claim to a bounty? I assume that scalping was not a feasible option, but if you are going to offer a bounty then you are going to want proof that the person claiming that bounty did, indeed, do the job.

So if a coalition soldier died on *this* day how was a Talibani supposed to confirm to the GRU that "Yep, I did that. Where's my money?"

TTG, I think you are being led away from the truth by your significant bias against Russia. Those with a blinkered vision see only what they want to see. No mystery there.

Now you want to portray NYT as the paragon of truth telling!! Haven't we seen enough examples of the lying by Jewish owned neocon media, especially the Times? Now that the Russia-gate fire is nearly put out, these guys are pumping this story.
You really need to understand the depth of hatred the Jews have for Russia and Russians that makes them like this. That's the only country /civilisation that got away from their grasp just when they thought have got it. Not once, but twice in the last century.

But then isn't your ancestry from Lithuania. Your hatred is strong. I get that - I see that all time with people from the ex-Soviet republics formerly ruled by Russia. Hope others see that too.

Barbara Ann , 28 June 2020 at 09:42 AM

Regardless of its veracity, this story will definitely hit Trump where it hurts - chapeau to the individual(s) who conceived this work of fiction, if indeed it is so.

Again, whether or not performance bonuses* were actually offered by the GRU, has anyone considered that this may still be a Russian Intelligence op?

Perhaps we should first ask whether the Kremlin wants to deal with a US under another 4 years of Trump. From their FP POV, the huge uncertainty and instability they see in the US now will surely be ramped up to a whole new level, in the event that he is re-elected. And of course all hope that Trump may be able to improve the relationship with Russia was dashed long ago, by Russiagate and the ongoing Russophobia among the Borg. Jeffrey's mission in Syria is a case in point. At least the US Deep State is the devil they know.

If the answer to the above question is "no" it must surely be a trivial matter for the GRU to feed such a damaging story to Trump's enemies in the USIC.

* "bounties" is an emotive word, useful to Trump's enemies, evoking individual pay for an individual death - real personal stuff. As others have pointed out the practicality of such a scheme seems improbable. Surely it is more likely that any such incentive pay would be for the group, upon coalition casualties confirmed in the aftermath of an attack. The distinction may not seem important, but the Resistance media can be relied upon to use language designed to inflict the most harm.

Flavius , 28 June 2020 at 09:48 AM

'Intel' without evidence is "bunk". Have we learned nothing from Chrissy Steele and the Russiagate fiasco - I know a guy who knows a guy who said... the Russians are bad and Donald Trump is an a......e. Bob Mueller and 18 pissed off democrats have concluded that the Russians are systemically bad and Donald Trump is an a......e. 4 months before a Presidential election intel sources have revealed to the NYT that the Russians are very very bad and Donald Trump is an a......e. Ah yes, the New York Ridiculously Self Degraded Times has broken another important story. I wonder why? Enough already...and yes, we have made a systemic laughing stock of ourselves.

Oh, and remind me again of why we've been staying around Kabul - something about improving the lot of women, or gays, or someone?

Diana Croissant , 28 June 2020 at 09:51 AM

I'm personally not ready to "duck and cover" after reading this.

I have accepted the fact that Russia is no longer the Soviet Union. I am watching television news at night but no longer see the clock ticking as I turn it off and go to sleep. So far, no one I know has taken to building a fallout shelter in his back yard.

I want an answer to this question: Whatever happened to the pillow and blanket I had to bring to school and store in the school's basement in case we all had to retreat there and be locked down in it during the bombing? Who do I go to to get reparations for the cost of those items? (I was never given the opportunity to retrieve them when I graduated.) Did Khrushchev have to take his shoe to a cobbler after using it to pound on the table while threatening to bury us?

Babak makkinejad , 28 June 2020 at 10:19 AM

TTG

The rebuttal from Russia.

Which raises the ante by making very very serious accusations of drug trade by US Intelligence.

https://tass.com/russia/1172369/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Charlie Wilson , 28 June 2020 at 11:06 AM

I think the killing of soldiers should be strictly forbidden. Only civilians should be targeted. It is easier and no one gives a shit.

The Twisted Genius , 28 June 2020 at 11:17 AM

Babak,

There's a rich history of stories about USI involvement in the drug trade. CIA was involved in the heroin trade during the Viet Nam War. The Iran-Contra mess involved selling Columbian cocaine to help finance Nicaraguan anti-Communist rebels. US involvement in the Afghanistan drug trade has been talked about for years. As I said, there are no glitter fartin' unicorns here.

Babak makkinejad , 28 June 2020 at 11:42 AM

TTG

The Iranian statistics do not lie. Transhipment of drugs across Iran from Afghanistan has been increasing since the American invasion and occupation of Afghanistan.

The US Office of Foreign Asset Control, the US DIA, the CIA etc. are powerless to do anything about that but are, evidently, all powerfull against USD transactions of the Iranian government.

[Jun 28, 2020] Unsophisticated disinformation Moscow rebuffs NYT story alleging Russia offered Taliban money to kill US troops in Afghanist

Notable quotes:
"... "covertly offered rewards" ..."
"... On Saturday, the Russian Foreign Ministry dismissed the NYT story as "fake information." ..."
"... This unsophisticated plant clearly illustrates the low intellectual abilities of the propagandists from US intelligence, who, instead of inventing something more plausible, resort to conjuring up such nonsense. ..."
"... "Then again, what else can one expect from intelligence services that have bungled the 20-year war in Afghanistan," the ministry said. ..."
"... Moscow has suggested that this misinformation was "planted" because the US may be against Russia "assisting" in peace talks between the Taliban and the internationally-recognised government in Kabul. ..."
Jun 27, 2020 | www.rt.com

The Russian Foreign Ministry has rejected a US media report claiming Moscow offered to pay jihadi militants to attack US soldiers in Afghanistan. It said such 'fake news' merely betrays the low skill levels of US spy agencies. Citing US intelligence officials – unnamed, of course – the New York Times reported that, last year, Moscow had "covertly offered rewards" to Taliban-linked militants to attack American troops and their NATO allies in Afghanistan.

On Saturday, the Russian Foreign Ministry dismissed the NYT story as "fake information."

This unsophisticated plant clearly illustrates the low intellectual abilities of the propagandists from US intelligence, who, instead of inventing something more plausible, resort to conjuring up such nonsense.

"Then again, what else can one expect from intelligence services that have bungled the 20-year war in Afghanistan," the ministry said.

Moscow has suggested that this misinformation was "planted" because the US may be against Russia "assisting" in peace talks between the Taliban and the internationally-recognised government in Kabul.

US-led NATO troops have been fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan since 2001. The campaign, launched in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, has cost Washington billions of dollars and resulted in the loss of thousands of American soldiers' lives. Despite maintaining a military presence for almost two decades, the US has failed to defeat the Taliban, which is still in control of vast swaths of the country.

Moreover, the office of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction has compiled several reports detailing how tens of millions of US taxpayers' funds have been spent on dubious regeneration projects.

[Jun 28, 2020] It is the US intelligence s job to lie to you. NYT s Afghan bounty story is CIA press release by Caitlin Johnstone

This whole "story" stinks to high heaven. Judy Miller redux - regime-change info ops, coordinated across multiple media organizations.
Notable quotes:
"... To be clear, this is journalistic malpractice. Mainstream media outlets which publish anonymous intelligence claims with no proof are just publishing CIA press releases disguised as news. They're just telling you to believe what sociopathic intelligence agencies want you to believe under the false guise of impartial and responsible reporting. This practice has become ubiquitous throughout mainstream news publications, but that doesn't make it any less immoral. ..."
"... "Same old story: alleged intelligence ops IMPOSSIBLE to verify, leaked to the press which reports them quoting ANONYMOUS officials," tweeted journalist Stefania Maurizi. ..."
"... "So we are to simply believe the same intelligence orgs that paid bounties to bring innocent prisoners to Guantanamo, lied about torture in Afghanistan, and lied about premises for war from WMD in Iraq to the Gulf of Tonkin 'attack'? All this and no proof?" ..."
"... "It's totally outrageous for Russia to support the Taliban against Americans in Afghanistan. Of course, it's totally fine for the US to support jihadi rebels against Russians in Syria, jihadi rebels who openly said the Taliban is their hero," ..."
"... On the flip side, all the McResistance pundits have been speaking of this baseless allegation as a horrific event that is known to have happened, with Rachel Maddow going so far as to describe it as Putin offering bounties for the "scalps" of American soldiers in Afghanistan. This is an interesting choice of words, considering that offering bounties for scalps is, in fact, one of the many horrific things the US government did in furthering its colonialist ambitions , which, unlike the New York Times allegation, is known to have actually happened. ..."
Jun 28, 2020 | www.rt.com
By Caitlin Johnstone , an independent journalist based in Melbourne, Australia. Her website is here and you can follow her on Twitter @caitoz

Whenever one sees a news headline ending in "US Intelligence Says", one should always mentally replace everything that comes before it with "Blah blah blah we're probably lying."

"Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill Troops, US Intelligence Says", blares the latest viral headline from the New York Times . NYT's unnamed sources allege that the GRU "secretly offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants for killing coalition forces in Afghanistan -- including targeting American troops", and that the Trump administration has known this for months.

To be clear, this is journalistic malpractice. Mainstream media outlets which publish anonymous intelligence claims with no proof are just publishing CIA press releases disguised as news. They're just telling you to believe what sociopathic intelligence agencies want you to believe under the false guise of impartial and responsible reporting. This practice has become ubiquitous throughout mainstream news publications, but that doesn't make it any less immoral.

Also on rt.com There they go again: NYT serves up spy fantasy about Russian 'bounties' on US troops in Afghanistan

In a post-Iraq-invasion world, the only correct response to unproven anonymous claims about a rival government by intelligence agencies from the US or its allies is to assume that they are lying until you are provided with a mountain of independently verifiable evidence to the contrary. The US has far too extensive a record of lying about these things for any other response to ever be justified as rational, and its intelligence agencies consistently play a foundational role in those lies.

Voices outside the mainstream-narrative control matrix have been calling these accusations what they are: baseless, lacking in credibility, and not reflective of anything other than fair play, even if true.

"Same old story: alleged intelligence ops IMPOSSIBLE to verify, leaked to the press which reports them quoting ANONYMOUS officials," tweeted journalist Stefania Maurizi.

America to end 'era of endless wars' & stop being policeman, Trump gives same old election promises he broke

"So we are to simply believe the same intelligence orgs that paid bounties to bring innocent prisoners to Guantanamo, lied about torture in Afghanistan, and lied about premises for war from WMD in Iraq to the Gulf of Tonkin 'attack'? All this and no proof?" tweeted author and analyst Jeffrey Kaye.

"It's totally outrageous for Russia to support the Taliban against Americans in Afghanistan. Of course, it's totally fine for the US to support jihadi rebels against Russians in Syria, jihadi rebels who openly said the Taliban is their hero," tweeted author and analyst Max Abrams.

On the flip side, all the McResistance pundits have been speaking of this baseless allegation as a horrific event that is known to have happened, with Rachel Maddow going so far as to describe it as Putin offering bounties for the "scalps" of American soldiers in Afghanistan. This is an interesting choice of words, considering that offering bounties for scalps is, in fact, one of the many horrific things the US government did in furthering its colonialist ambitions , which, unlike the New York Times allegation, is known to have actually happened.

It is true, as many have been pointing out, that it would be fair play for Russia to fund violent opposition the the US in Afghanistan, seeing as that's exactly what the US and its allies have been doing to Russia and its allies in Syria, and did to the Soviets in Afghanistan via Operation Cyclone . It is also true that the US military has no business in Afghanistan anyway, and any violence inflicted on US troops abroad is the fault of the military expansionists who put them there. The US military has no place outside its own easily defended borders, and the assumption that it is normal for a government to circle the planet with military bases is a faulty premise.

'Unsophisticated' disinformation: Moscow rebuffs NYT story alleging Russia offered Taliban money to kill US troops in Afghanistan

But before even getting into such arguments, the other side of the debate must meet its burden of proof that this has even happened. That burden is far from met. It is literally the US intelligence community's job to lie to you. The New York Times has an extensive history of pushing for new wars at every opportunity, including the unforgivable Iraq invasion , which killed a million people, based on lies. A mountain of proof is required before such claims should be seriously considered, and we are very, very far from that.

I will repeat myself: it is the US intelligence community's job to lie to you. I will repeat myself again: it is the US intelligence community's job to lie to you. Don't treat these CIA press releases with anything but contempt.

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[Jun 28, 2020] Woke mafia puts John Wayne on the chopping block next as Cali Dems demand airport renamed

Notable quotes:
"... Statues of Confederate generals have been taken down or vandalized, and President Donald Trump has responded with an executive order promising harsh punishments for those who continue committing the acts. ..."
Jun 27, 2020 | www.rt.com

Democrats are calling for John Wayne Airport in Orange County to be renamed in protest of the long-dead actor's alleged racism, making him the latest historical figure being judged by today's cultural standards. "There have been past efforts to get this done and now we're putting our name and our backing into this to make sure there is a name change," said Ada Briceño, chairperson of the Democratic Party of Orange County, following a resolution being passed calling for the airport to be be given the simple name: Orange County Airport.

Wayne's specific transgression are "racist and bigoted statements" made during a Playboy interview in 1971, eight years before The Duke passed away at the age of 72. The airport was named after the actor the year he died.

Woodrow Wilson faces woke revenge at Princeton University for 'racism.' Is Roosevelt next?

In the infamous interview with Playboy, Wayne made comments that have long been controversial, though admittedly harsher and more extreme than in other public conversations.

"I believe in white supremacy until the Blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people," the 'True Grit' star said at one point.

If we're looking to name airports only after people who were without sin, then we'd better drop all their names and let them be known simply by their three-letter IATA codes. John Wayne was no saint, but he still contributed in a positive way to American pop culture history. https://t.co/l5KD5kXuGg

-- Max Q (@vox_independens) June 27, 2020

The Western star also made derogatory comments about Native Americans.

"I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. [O]ur so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival," he said. "There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."

The resolution from Democrats fully acknowledges the removal of Wayne's name is part of a larger effort to axe "white supremacist symbols and names [that are] reshaping American institutions, monuments, businesses, nonprofits, sports leagues, and teams."

As protests against police brutality and racism rage across the nation in the wake of George Floyd's death, more and more historical figures with monuments and landmarks memorializing them have been targeted.

Statues of Confederate generals have been taken down or vandalized, and President Donald Trump has responded with an executive order promising harsh punishments for those who continue committing the acts.

As has been the case with other figures of the past being held to today's standards, some questioned the logic of targeting Wayne decades after his death.

"Of course, John Wayne was racist. By the hyper sensitive standards of today, just about every person who has ever lived was racist," conservative journalist John Hawkins tweeted .

[Jun 28, 2020] Trump himself demolished NYT provocation -- the Russia/Taliban story

Jun 28, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Brendan , Jun 28 2020 14:18 utc | 4

Trump himself has rubbished the NYT's Russia/Taliban story on Twitter today:

"Nobody briefed or told me, @VP Pence, or Chief of Staff @MarkMeadows about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an "anonymous source" by the Fake News @nytimes. Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us..... "
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1277202159109537793

"The Fake News @ nytimes must reveal its "anonymous" source. Bet they can't do it, this "person" probably does not even exist! twitter.com/richardgrenell "
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1277215720418484224

Christian J. Chuba , Jun 28 2020 15:17 utc | 11

NYT exclusive: breaking, bombshell report, bombshell report, Russia pays Taliban to kill U.S. Troops

The puppets dance for their puppet masters yet again. I was struck that in all of the MSM responses on CNN and FOX every single host accepted it as an absolute fact that this was true. If an unnamed source said something to a reporter at the NYT then it must have happened in that way and the facts are irrefutable. Wow our 'journalists' are pathetic.

1. The guy who leaked this could be twisting a half or even quarter truth to embarrass Trump, derail our withdrawal from Germany or Afghanistan ... nahh impossible. Our CIA guys never have an agenda.

2. This could be disinformation against Russia ... nahh we are the good guys, that's not how we roll.

The guy on CNN could not believe the WH statement that they were not briefed, 'it strains credibility'. Maybe one POW made an outlandish claim to get better treatment and lower level staff did not think the claim itself had enough credibility. Nope, it was leaked by an Intelligence guy, therefore it must be true.

journalism is dead. buried, dug up, cremated and then scattered over a trash dump in the U.S.

[Jun 28, 2020] Evidence Free Press Release Claims 'Russia Did Bad, Trump Did Not Respond' - NYT, WaPo Publish It

Highly recommended!
Projection, yet another time. An old and very effective dirty propaganda trick. Fake news outlet are intelligence services controlled outlets.
Notable quotes:
"... Reporters from the New York Times and the Washington Post were called up by unnamed 'officials' and told to write that Russia pays some Afghans to kill U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. There is zero evidence that the claim is true. The Taliban spokesman denies it. The numbers of U.S. soldiers killed in Afghanistan is minimal. The alleged sources of the claims are criminals the U.S. has taken as prisoners in Afghanistan. ..."
"... The journalistic standards at the New York Times and Washington Post must be below zero to publish such nonsense without requesting real evidence. The press release like stories below from anti-Trump/anti-Russian sources have nothing to do with ' great reporting ' but are pure stenography. ..."
"... If the Russians were truly inclined in a direction leading them to "pay bounties" for American scalps in Afghanistan, they would instead be doing what we once did: providing state-of-the-art Manpads to Afghan jihadis. Any sort of bar room or shit house rumor these days is attributed to "intelligence officials" or "intelligence sources", always unnamed of course. ..."
"... The paragraph about "reasons to believe" is vacuous in the extreme: ..."
"... "The intelligence assessment is said to be based at least in part on interrogations of captured Afghan militants and criminals. The officials did not describe the mechanics of the Russian operation, such as how targets were picked or how money changed hands. It is also not clear whether Russian operatives had deployed inside Afghanistan or met with their Taliban counterparts elsewhere." ..."
"... We know from the past that US forces were torturing TOTALLY RANDOM INDIVIDUALS, occasionally to death. Needless to say, "officials did not describe the mechanics" of the interrogation, neither did not describe any corroborative details. The most benign scenario is that "captured Afghan militants and criminals" are pure fiction rather than actual people subjected to "anal inspections", "peroneal strikes", left overnight hanging from the ceiling etc. to spit out random incoherent tidbits about the Russians, like "it is also not clear".... A long list of "not clear"'s. ..."
"... Together, it is very crude "manufacturing of consent", and unfortunately, this is a workable technique of manipulation. Crudity is the tool, not a defect in this case. I will explain later what I mean, this post is probably too long already. ..."
Jun 28, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Evidence Free Press Release Claims 'Russia Did Bad, Trump Did Not Respond' - NYT , WaPo Publish It A. Pols , Jun 27 2020 14:34 utc | 1

There were allegations about emails that someone exfiltrated from the DNC and provided to Wikileaks . Russia must have done it. The FBI and other intelligence services were all over it. In the end no evidence was provided to support the claims.

There were allegations that Trump did not really win the elections. Russia must have done it. The various U.S. intelligence service, together with their British friends, provided all kinds of sinister leaks about the alleged case. In the end no evidence was provided to support the claims.

A British double agent, Sergej Skirpal, was allegedly injured in a Russian attack on him. The intelligence services told all kind of contradicting nonsense about the case. In the end no evidence was provided to support the claims.

All three cases had two points in common. The were based on sources near to the U.S. and British intelligence community. They were designed to increase hostility against Russia. The last point was then used to sabotage Donald Trump's original plans for better relations with Russia.

Now the intelligence services make another claim that fits right into the above scheme.

Reporters from the New York Times and the Washington Post were called up by unnamed 'officials' and told to write that Russia pays some Afghans to kill U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. There is zero evidence that the claim is true. The Taliban spokesman denies it. The numbers of U.S. soldiers killed in Afghanistan is minimal. The alleged sources of the claims are criminals the U.S. has taken as prisoners in Afghanistan.

All that nonsense is again used to press against Trump's wish for better relations with Russia. Imagine - Trump was told about these nonsensical claims and he did nothing about it!

The same intelligence services and 'officials' previously paid bounties to bring innocent prisoners to Guantanamo Bay, tortured them until they made false confessions and lied about it. The same intelligence services and 'officials' lied about WMD in Iraq. The same 'intelligence officials' paid and pay Jihadis disguised as 'Syrian rebels' to kill Russian and Syrian troops which defend their countries.

The journalistic standards at the New York Times and Washington Post must be below zero to publish such nonsense without requesting real evidence. The press release like stories below from anti-Trump/anti-Russian sources have nothing to do with ' great reporting ' but are pure stenography.

The New York Times :

Cont. reading: Evidence Free Press Release Claims 'Russia Did Bad, Trump Did Not Respond' - NYT, WaPo Publish It

Posted by b at 13:43 UTC | Comments (3) If the Russians were truly inclined in a direction leading them to "pay bounties" for American scalps in Afghanistan, they would instead be doing what we once did: providing state-of-the-art Manpads to Afghan jihadis. Any sort of bar room or shit house rumor these days is attributed to "intelligence officials" or "intelligence sources", always unnamed of course.

JohnH , Jun 27 2020 14:45 utc | 2

Biden is the intelligence services' ideal candidate -- an easily manipulated empty suit. There's a reason why charges of Biden wrongdoing are as easily dismissed as nonsensical charges against Trump and Russia get fabricated. And that reason is that the media is as happy to be manipulated as Biden.
Piotr Berman , Jun 27 2020 15:03 utc | 3
Two puzzling and disturbing aspects.

The paragraph about "reasons to believe" is vacuous in the extreme:

"The intelligence assessment is said to be based at least in part on interrogations of captured Afghan militants and criminals. The officials did not describe the mechanics of the Russian operation, such as how targets were picked or how money changed hands. It is also not clear whether Russian operatives had deployed inside Afghanistan or met with their Taliban counterparts elsewhere."

We know from the past that US forces were torturing TOTALLY RANDOM INDIVIDUALS, occasionally to death. Needless to say, "officials did not describe the mechanics" of the interrogation, neither did not describe any corroborative details. The most benign scenario is that "captured Afghan militants and criminals" are pure fiction rather than actual people subjected to "anal inspections", "peroneal strikes", left overnight hanging from the ceiling etc. to spit out random incoherent tidbits about the Russians, like "it is also not clear".... A long list of "not clear"'s.

This is disturbing, although this is precisely the quality of "intelligence" that gets released to the public. The second disturbing aspect is that the article was opened to comments, and as usually in such cases, the comments are full of fury at Russians and Trump, and with the numbers of "recommend"'s reaching thousands. On non-Russian topics, if comments are allowed, one can see a much wider spectrum of opinion, sometimes with huge numbers of "recommend"'s to people who criticize and doubt the official positions. Here I lost patience looking for any skeptical comment.

Together, it is very crude "manufacturing of consent", and unfortunately, this is a workable technique of manipulation. Crudity is the tool, not a defect in this case. I will explain later what I mean, this post is probably too long already.

[Jun 26, 2020] The demand to have statues paintings of 'White Jesus' torn down has made BLM an Iconoclast movement, not just a Marxist one by Guy Birchall

BLM are not Marxists. they are Maoists and toppling statues is a natural thing for them, much like it was for "Red Guards" during China "cultural revolution"
Notable quotes:
"... "gross form of White Supremacy." ..."
"... The Last Supper ..."
"... "No one would seriously argue that the Pieta or the Last Supper should be torn down or painted over," ..."
"... "Shaun King is just being ridiculous and provocative, and writing an article about his mad claims is just legitimising them," ..."
"... Like this story? Share it with a friend! ..."
Jun 26, 2020 | www.rt.com
Guy Birchall, British journalist covering current affairs, politics and free speech issues. Recently published in The Sun and Spiked Online. Follow him on Twitter @guybirchall Guy Birchall, British journalist covering current affairs, politics and free speech issues. Recently published in The Sun and Spiked Online. Follow him on Twitter @guybirchall 24 Jun, 2020 07:35 Get short URL A leading activist's remarks that all "statues, murals, and stained glass windows of white Jesus, and his European mother" represent "gross white supremacy" shows that radical, racialised politics has no limit to its targets. The problematic statues row has now taken a turn from political iconoclasm to literal iconoclasm with depictions of "white Jesus" next on the hit list for some of Black Lives Matter's more hardcore proponents.

Activist Shaun King has called for all the statues, murals, stained glass windows and paintings depicting the Messiah as having European features to come down because they are a "gross form of White Supremacy." To illustrate his point, King makes the perceptive observation that when Jesus, Mary and Joseph went into hiding while Herod engaged in a spot of infanticide in 1 AD Judea, the family hid in Egypt, not Denmark, so they would " blend in. "

This is exactly the sort of mission creep many people worried about when the whole statues issue started to pick up steam last month. It began with slave owners, and one can see the argument there for taking them down, but it is worth noting that the statues themselves were not erected for their services to the Transatlantic slave trade.

Then in America, they moved onto their national heroes, like Washington and Jefferson, again because they owned slaves. Again, one can understand the argument that they shouldn't be venerated because of this fact, but they aren't praised for being slave owners but for founding the United States of America.

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Before we knew it, we were at Ulysses Grant, who lead the Union Armies in the Civil War to end slavery, but because he married into a slave owning family, he too must be torn down. Defeating the Confederacy wasn't enough to save him. Then Theodore Roosevelt was next on the list because of white supremacy, (although he wasn't the Roosevelt who actually interred Americans in camps based on their race in World War II, that was FDR).

But even with the pace with which this movement has declared former icons persona non-grata, to jump from Teddy Roosevelt to Jesus is extraordinary. Were Mr. King's demands to be met, and "all statues of the White European they claim to be Jesus" to come down, that would amount to the destruction of some of the finest works of art in existence.

Michelangelo's Pieta, gone, Da Vinci's Last Supper, erased, Raphael's Transfiguration, wiped, Donatello's Crucifix, torn down, and that would be just if we targeted artists who share their names with turtles who know karate. And the Sistine Chapel? Razed to the ground, along with the smashing of the stained-glass windows of virtually every church and cathedral in Europe.

This erasure of history would make the destruction of the Reformation and the dissolution of the monasteries in 16th-century England look like child's play.

The simple fact of the matter is that Jesus has, throughout history, been portrayed as looking like any number of races, and those usually reflect the race of the artist. Black artists have portrayed him as having African features, Asian artists have done something in their image, and so European artists obviously portrayed him as looking European. Which is kind of the point of Jesus: all his followers are supposed to be able to see themselves in him. As a result of living in the Western world, that means, to Western eyes, he has more often been portrayed as looking like a white European.

Yes, I think the statues of the white European they claim is Jesus should also come down. They are a form of white supremacy. Always have been. In the Bible, when the family of Jesus wanted to hide, and blend in, guess where they went?EGYPT!Not Denmark.Tear them down.

-- Shaun King (@shaunking) June 22, 2020

Yes. All murals and stained glass windows of white Jesus, and his European mother, and their white friends should also come down. They are a gross form white supremacy. Created as tools of oppression. Racist propaganda. They should all come down.

-- Shaun King (@shaunking) June 22, 2020

There is also the fact that for a large chunk of history, Europe is where Christianity blossomed. In the Middle East, where yes, Jesus was born, a very different religion, with a very different view on depicting religious figures arose, which perhaps goes some way to explaining the paucity of paintings of Christ in this part of the world. The fact that Jesus plays second fiddle to Mohammed in Islam and is regarded as a false prophet in Judaism, might explain why there are fewer depictions of him in the immediate vicinity of the Sea of Galilee.

One also has to have quite a conspiratorial mind to conclude that 'white supremacy' was top of the agenda for the likes of Da Vinci and Raphael. Couldn't they just be artists painting and sculpting their interpretation of what Christ looked like? Could the depictions of him as looking more European not just be down to those being the kind of people they hung around with?

I mean, if we're getting into the weeds about this, it's probably quite unlikely that the historical Jesus had a rippling six pack and sinewy biceps as he is so often shown as having. Can art not just be appreciated as art without having the artist's motivation impugned four, five or six centuries after the fact? Given that the Transatlantic slave trade didn't begin until the 17th century, it seems baffling to tear down art made in the centuries before.

It also raises the question of how exactly is it acceptable to depict Jesus from now on then? Given that he was a Palestinian Jew, it seems equally unlikely that he looked like the African man he was portrayed as in Madonna's Like a Prayer video, as he would look like the dirty blonde haired European in Da Vinci's The Last Supper . (Gosh, it's painful equating these two very different pieces of culture in the same sentence).

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This may seem like a fringe issue that is never going to happen, and it could easily be dismissed as the ramblings of someone on the extreme left. "No one would seriously argue that the Pieta or the Last Supper should be torn down or painted over," some might say. "Shaun King is just being ridiculous and provocative, and writing an article about his mad claims is just legitimising them," they may add.

This may be true, but ask yourself – in 2010, how much money would you have put on statues of Washington and Jefferson being torn down in America? What odds would you have got on the bookies of Churchill's statue having to be boarded up in London? I don't think you'd have even put a quid on it.

There has to come a point where a civilisation just says "enough, stop," otherwise these movements pick up steam. Several American states have shown themselves incapable of defending their founding fathers. With Christianity dwindling year by year in the West, how long will we be able to make a defence for these priceless works of art if they too are decided to be contrary to the prevailing ideology of the day?

Ugly civilisations torch their history, others learn from them. Let us not become the former, just because the other side is shouting louder than we are.

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[Jun 26, 2020] A Country Not Salvageable by Fred Reed

Jun 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

What fun, what entertainment. And rare: One seldom sees the collapse of a landmark society in a rush of wondrous idiocy. Would I could sell tickets. Don't look at it as a loss, but as a show, an unwanted but grand amusement.

The coup de grace in our ripening decadence is the current uprising purportedly, though implausibly, over racism. But never mind. The causes don't matter. The deal is done.

Still, it is interesting to recognize that the protesters are, perhaps deliberately, confusing the incapacity of blacks with systemic racism. In truth, America has made the greatest effort ever essayed by one race to uplift another. Reflect: In 1954 an entirely white Supreme Court unanimously ended segregation. Later it found the use of IQ tests by employers illegal because blacks scored poorly, then found "affirmative action," racial discrimination against whites, legal (hardly oppression of blacks, this). An overwhelmingly white Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, the Voting Rights Act the next year. A white President sent troops to Little Rock to enforce desegregation. There has been an enormous flow of charity to blacks: Section Eight Housing, AFDC, Head Start, hiring quotas, set-asides, sharply lowered standards in police and fire departments. We now have free breakfasts for black children, then free lunches, in addition to outright welfare. In aggregate they resemble a distributed guaranteed basic income. Which is interesting.

These measures sprang from the best of intentions. Most I think should continue. I for one do not want to evict blacks from public housing or have their children go hungry. Yet none of these programs has had its desired effect. The crucial academic gap has not closed, crime remains horribly high, illegitimacy verges on universal. This is a great shame. Blacks are decent enough people, likable if they don't hate you, and phenomenally talented. But it hasn't worked.

Nothing has worked. There is no indication that anything will. The great black cities are in something approaching custodial care.

You cannot solve a problem without knowing what it is. This we dare not know. Democracies, however approximate, cannot deal with chronically underperforming minorities.

They cannot even try. Anything that might help is politically impossible, and anything politically possible won't help.

So, after the riots:

Social division will worsen after the riots. Racial hostility from blacks will not decrease because their conditions will not change. The rioters are getting their way now, and rule, but at the price of sowing hatred. At best we will have many decades of ugly rancor. At worst, we are winding the spring for another outburst.

Multiculturalism has not worked, quite apart from race, and will not. White Americans are not one people. The poor communications and bad roads that once allowed them to live almost separately no longer exist. In its writ-large form, trying to force West Virginia to accept the culture of Massachusetts will produce only anger.

The likelihood of amity between races is proportional to their agreement on values important to them. For example, the Chinese share (what once were) the white values of study, work, courtesy, and obedience to the law. That they eat with chopsticks and celebrate New Year on the wrong day doesn't matter.

However, again for example, a culture that believes in female genital mutilation and utter subjection of women cannot live amicably with a culture that abhors these things. Black ghetto culture and white are immiscible in so many fundamental values that they will not live well together.

Some cultures can assimilate, for example East Asian and American white, Latino and American white. But, in addition to sharply different cultures, too many blacks live in sprawling, racially isolated urban centers with almost no contact with the outside world other than television.

Censorship will intensify, not just of communications and office chitchat but of books. Tom Sawyer will be pulled from bookshelves or -- Amazon being the continental shelf -- or bowderlized to remove the Nigger Jim and Injun Joe The Nigger of the Narcissus may survive because none of the blacks and few of the whites will ever have heard of Conrad. At least for the foreseeable future, firings for anything imaginably redolent of racism–saying "All lives matter," for example–will be snatched at in a mixture of passive aggression and schadenfreude to result in firings. This is unlikely to have a happy ending.

Schooling : Watching great universities become sandboxes for unpleasantly righteous dimwitted brats galls, or does if one lets it. I don't. Most of the protesters seem recently to have erupted from the drains of an educational system that has been in sharp decline for decades They, including the intelligent among them, appear historically not just ignorant but carefully misinformed, culturally pathetic, and intellectually laughable. (For example, a protestress interviewed by a British reporter as to what she thought of Churchill said she couldn't really say because she hadn't met him. How many in BLM can spell "Confederacy"? A statue of Ulysses Grant was pulled down in the belief that he was a Confederate general. May God preserve us.)

The, uh, redaction of culture will not stop with books. Classical music is too white, the sciences too white, mathematics a tool of oppression (meaning that blacks cannot understand it) and so on. We have created a nation of pampered and imbecile peasants.

Schooling will continue its plummet. Science departments probably will not be abolished. However, because they are too white, schools will recruit hopelessly unqualified black students and professors, standards will fall yet more, and mathematics will be played down even in astrophysics (this is being done). Extirpating racism will replace scholarship, already degraded by the retirement or death of those professors who knew what education meant. This will inevitably result in lowered American technological competitiveness and prosperity. There is no hope of preventing this.

The replacement of learned professors by aging detritus from the Sixties antagonistic to scholarship is not surprising. America has had strong anti-intellectual undercurrent since its inception. The degradation will not be noticed by the young as they have never lived in a world different from their own, with Harry Potter and Toni Morrison thought to be literature. A liberal education was once the mark of the cultivated, being deep in languages, literature, philosophy, the sciences, history, mathematics,. Universities once had, at least among the better students, a love of open minded curiosity, thought, and debate. No more. Future historians will notice the shift, but those within it will not. We are left with a nation of morons who will not know they are morons.

This too cannot be prevented. Jejune herdthink is now warmly espoused throughout the academy with children in grade school being primed for it.

The most -- I dare not say "entertaining" for fear of lynching, but, well, perhaps "interesting" reforms will be those of the police, whether abolition, defunding to shift money to youth outreach and rehab (which don't work) or replacement of police by warm and caring adults, will result in increased crime. We need not concern ourselves with whether and to what extent the police have been culpable in which cases. The changes will come anyway.

An intriguing question is what the nonviolent, non-racist, warm and fuzzy pseudopolice will do when they encounter violent criminals. Counsel them on social justice? I would love to watch.

Our system of governments has proved itself weak, feckless, and unable to govern. The chaotic response to the coronavirus is a prime example, there being no national policy and the states being told to do as they see fit. The other major example was the inability or unwillingness to prevent looting and arson.The widespread destruction was unopposed, protected by the media, and celebrated by the many corporations that have fallen over themselves to truckle to the unwashed and to give them money. If our rampaging anthropoids can loot once, there is no reason to think they cannot do it again.

Many cities are routinely out of control, with seven hundred homicides in Chicago and three hundred in Baltimore every year. Increasingly criminals are released without bail and small crimes, such as evading subway fares, are ignored when committed by minorities. The hordes of derelicts grow, the New York subways become a homeless shelter. These are not problems seen in civilized countries. Which America no longer is, to the astonishment and amusement of the world.

Perhaps this was to be expected. The American practice of choosing its leaders every two, four, or six years by popularity contest worked, after a fashion anyway, in a sprawling continental country in which government had very little local influence. In a world far more complex, with little ability to plan when those in charge change with paralyzing rapidity, and everything intensely regulated by people unfamiliar with problems, results are poor. America's competition with large countries having intelligently authoritarian and stable governance will prove a losing proposition proposition. The inevitable decline in standard of living, already well underwater, will promote unrest. Here we go again.

We have done what Marx couldn't: Achieved communism, a true dictatorship of the proletariat, of a rabble jacquerie of much noise and no wit, the rule of the unfit. It is a rule only of the culture. The moneyed would not grant it power over anything else. Yet rule it is. We shall hear much of the authenticity of the illiterate, the purity of ghetto urges, the wisdom of the people, the need to lay low the pretensions of the mansion.

Yet the catastrophe has its consolations. It is amusing for those amused by the end of empires. The Soviet Union spoke of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but lived under the dictatorship of a gray aristocracy. America speaks of the rule of the people, a horrible idea, and seems to be getting there.

Think of it as the Cultural Revolution by suburban hobbyists. There are the same raging untermenschen, the same desire to destroy anything they do not know, or cannot understand, or be bothered to learn.

As a philosophic emollient one may reflect that all empires and civilizations must end, and ours is. America will remain as a place, a military bastion, a large if declining economic force. It will never again be, even by the low standards of humanity in such things, a relatively free and vigorous society. The world will not again credit its charades of moral leadership. The rot, the tens of thousands of derelict people living on the sidewalks, the looting and fire setting, the censorship, are now visible to the entire earth. Oh well. It was a good thing while it lasted.

Write Fred at jet.possum@gmail.com Put the letters pdq anywhere in the subject line to avoid autodeletion. All read, not always answered due to volume.

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james wilson , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 5:43 pm GMT

The American system worked decently enough when, and only when, a quarter of the adult population was eligible to vote. That was when democracy was a thing and not "our" thing.
john cronk , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 5:57 pm GMT
Well said. The only thing I disagree with is your opinion that handouts and special favors should continue.
Gordon K. Shumway , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 6:14 pm GMT
I'm glad to have spent my youth and middle age in a mostly sane America. I do not look forward to what's coming at me in my dotage.
SteveK9 , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 6:17 pm GMT
'America's competition with large countries having intelligently authoritarian and stable governance will prove a losing proposition proposition.'

I might still generally agree with this, but our insane 'lockdown' policy in response to an epidemic that posed no real serious threat was copied from the Chinese!!

botazefa , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 6:47 pm GMT
Thank you so much for checking in Fred.

You made our horrible times sound not so bad.

As a result I felt upbeat enough to feel like ordering your 'Nekkid in Austin' paperback from Amazon. $20 and change with tax. Hopefully at least some of that makes it into your pocket.

ASimpleHistory , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 7:45 pm GMT
Re: "In truth, America has made the greatest effort ever essayed by one race to uplift another."

You say nothing about any other country on the planet. What the US has done without the context of the rest of the world is somewhat empty. What about Canada? What about the UK? There are countries outside of the US.

I see no mention of the black history of June Nineteenth or of Tulsa Black Wall Street. Is that not consequential? It's a silent form of discrimination.

How many blacks can spell "confederacy." There is some implicit bias there. Did you think about mentioning the lead content of public water in some inner cities and what affect that might have on development of black children?

I'm not ever sure you fully understand the history of Ulysses S. Grant. You may not have seen this earlier piece written from the UK.

It wasn't a mistake to pull down the statue of Ulysses S Grant
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ulysses-s-grant-statue-san-francisco-soldier-politician-a9580091.html

They thought it was relevant because for those following the Black Lives Matter movement, it's more than just about Black lives. There is an acronym floating around you also may not be aware of. Black, Indigenous and People of Color (BIPOC). For further information see: https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-is-bipoc.html

Is it hopeless? Perhaps.

Regards,
ASimpleHistory

Oliver Elkington , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 7:45 pm GMT
Sad to see America and the west in general turning out like this, what frustrates me is how hard it is to get normal based white people to organize, the left can get nearly 100,000 people in several cities across America and Europe tearing down statues, shouting abuse at western European culture and it's defenders and the right barely manages to get a couple of thousand people to gather in central London while thousands of left anarchists were scrawling graffiti on Churchill and other monuments. I know left wingers have the advantage of living IN the major cities but most are still surrounded by millions of ordinary middle class people who i am sure are aghast at what is happening. The fact that it is so hard for them to get of their asses and drive 100-200km to meet one another is depressing.
Bragadocious , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 7:59 pm GMT
Only Fred Reed could opine that the biggest threat facing higher ed is the dumbing down of curricula.

There's a little flu going around that's going to remake all of higher ed, with the prospect of hundreds of schools filing for bankruptcy or eliminating whole departments now very real.

Reed's so out of touch with America that it's just laughable. But I can see why he doesn't mention Covid, since Mexico is now in a full-blown pandemic, just as I predicted 2 months ago. (How'd the "siesta and a cerveza" policy from AMLO work out?) The deaths are increasing, curves aren't being flattened and the sick little buggers are scurrying like rats across the border to get hooked up to gringo ventilators at our expense.

Evidence continues to mount that spikes in Covid cases in U.S. border states are due to successive waves of infected people fleeing Mexico's dysfunctional and overwhelmed hospitals to get American medical care. https://t.co/aifN8575IW

-- Center for Immigration Studies (@CIS_org) June 24, 2020

Yep, Mexicans seem to be causing the new wave of infections in Southwest border states.

ruralguy , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 8:02 pm GMT
A two minute conversation with a typical American will quickly show you that their thoughts never dwell on anything noble. Rather, their thoughts are adrift in emotional nonsense. We have a vast underclass of 160 million immigrants from failed-3rd world countries and their US born children, since 1965. The new Americans and our black underclass don't like white people and the old America. We are now a nation of George Floyds, Homer Simpsons, and an obese Walmart shoppers. There is nothing noble in America. It's not a pretty picture. Who cares if it fails? There isn't anything worth saving.
Charlemagne , says: Website Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 8:27 pm GMT
Fred,
Brilliant. Many thanks.
Charlemagne , says: Website Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 8:28 pm GMT
@james wilson James,
Universal suffrage is the death of a republic.
Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 9:05 pm GMT
This is funny. We are looking at what a deeply corrupt, predatory system of government (look at the Dem-Woke-Rats) has achieved, the rule of the super-rich, which has achieved huge levels of homelessness, a country that has zero hospitals, zero medics, except for the rich, that is unique in that, and no education except for the rich, saddling the rest with deep debts, this mad rule of the rich waging economic war against countries that outstandingly look after their people, such as Cuba, a system wholly about predation and so with astronomical military expenditure but that forcing the poor to pay for it -- and here we have an article about the resulting anarchy, prattling on about side effects but ignoring the cause.

And comments on the rule of the people versus the dictatorship of the proletariat! When there is no such thing as a Congress critter who is not a millionaire but still must pander to supermillionaires.

A joke. A very nasty joke.

follyofwar , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 9:21 pm GMT
@Charlemagne Is democracy even a good thing? Last summer I read "The End of Democracy" by a Belgian named Christophe Buffin de Chosal, and I'm now convinced that it is not.
Chris Mallory , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 9:35 pm GMT
@ASimpleHistory

What about Canada? What about the UK?

Both of which have black populations at right about 3% of their populations. Not the 13% the US is burdened with.

I see no mention of the black history of June Nineteenth or of Tulsa Black Wall Street. Is that not consequential?

Neither are very consequential. The freeing of the slaves was worse for whites than it was good for blacks.

I'm not ever sure you fully understand the history of Ulysses S. Grant. You may not have seen this earlier piece written from the UK.

Yes, an essay written by a leftwing Jew. I am sure it is fair and balanced.

Black, Indigenous and People of Color (BIPOC)

Three groups that are little better than stone age savages without the blessings of White civilization bestowed upon them.

neutral , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 9:43 pm GMT
When the Soviet Union ended it could fall back into various nation states, America has no such thing. This makes its collapse incredibly more dangerous, all those nuclear weapons it has, what is going to happen to them?
EliteCommInc. , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 10:23 pm GMT
"Reflect: In 1954 an entirely white Supreme Court unanimously ended segregation. Later it found the use of IQ tests by employers illegal because blacks scored poorly, then found "affirmative action," racial discrimination against whites, legal (hardly oppression of blacks, this). An overwhelmingly white Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, the Voting Rights Act the next year. "

Except that did not end segregation nor did it shift the imbalance of educational resources as whites have been the most benefited population from these supposed investments. There isn't a measure that whites have not managed to accrue the major benefits from.

And I think, I could down your list and demonstrate just how failed those supposed remedies ave been applied to the black population of US citizens, if not for the redundancy of effort.

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I am not sure how to respond to nonsense such as Section * housing as if section * housing was a program unique to blacks. I would love o bemoan the ignorance of anyone who dis not know General/President Grant was a Union officer and a intense advocate for equity, at least for a while, when the person decrying their ignorance thinks that the Civil Rights era was unique for black citizens.

One might expect some level of ignorance for Pres. Grant by the uneducated, but the level of ignorance on display by the educated is only compounded by the fact that same individual making the complaint wants to continue more immigrants, who are the second largest winners of the civil rights changes but have managed o to convince people like Mr. Reed that

Cinco De Mayo should be celebrated as a US Holiday.

follyofwar , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 10:39 pm GMT
When Fred wades into Multiculturalism he speaks of FGM being incompatible with our values. But, as most Americans do, he neglects the other half of the story. MGM, aka circumcision, sanctioned by our backward society, is an equally barbaric crime.
Beb , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 10:51 pm GMT
Yes, Fred. It was a good thing, while it lasted.
Gordon K. Shumway , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 11:14 pm GMT
@follyofwar Not even close. Unlike victims of FGM, circumcised males can still enjoy sex.
Freda Lipshitz , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 11:51 pm GMT
Recently, I briefly touched on why I think the United States of America is done and dusted after almost 244 years of existence. Fred Reed, who is so much more eloquent with words than I, thinks so as well in A Country Not Salvageable!

IT IS INTERESTING AT THE OUTSET TO OBSERVE THAT THE MAIN REASON THE UNITED STATES FINDS ITSELF IN AN IRREDEEMABLE DIVE IS BECAUSE IT IS IN THE DNA OF THEIR CITIZENS. YEP – THAT'S RIGHT – THEIR DNA!

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FOR MANY DECADES, IF NOT ALMOST 2 1/2 CENTURIES, THEY HAVE INCORPORATED RACISM, SEXISM, BULLYING, WAR MONGERING AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IN THEIR DNA TO MENTION BUT A FEW. THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM IS AS FOLLOWS:

After almost 244 years in existence, 221 of which have been spent at war, the United States of America can no longer find a way to extricate itself from a situation which has been many decades in the making. It has become painfully clear that the 3 branches of government (executive, legislative and judicial) so proudly exhibited as effective and meaningful checks and balances no longer works. The military/industrial complex, now joined by the political/media complex, has made it impossible for anyone to Make America Great Again!

No one can see the United States extricating themselves from this unbelievable mess without dropping nuclear bombs on themselves and other nations around the world. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face is not a solution as they have discovered on many, many occasions throughout their history. But there is one solution, and probably only one, which could work given help from other nations.

As everyone knows, everywhere one looks and everything one looks at in America is in serious difficulty – most of which will never be corrected without major and prolonged surgery. Take a few examples only such as debt, education, infrastructure, immigration, constant war mongering, racism, irreparable political divisions, a disappearing middle class, sexism, wealth in fewer and fewer hands, debilitating unemployment, a dismal trade imbalance, gun control along with associated deaths and injuries, a non performing and dishonest judiciary, catering to one country in the Middle East, lobbying, a weakened electorate, an out of control media, a dangerous religious fervor, a bullying approach to everything, prison incarceration rates, non stop political campaigning, a rapidly falling life expectancy, obesity due to fast foods along with a couch potato syndrome and a constant interference in the affairs of other sovereign nations, little or no respect for the ravages of climate change and dropping out of signed agreements and treaties. And this is to only name a very few issues as they now have managed in addition to become the absolute laughingstock of the world. A very dangerous and emotional one to be sure – but a laughingstock nevertheless for which a few people now feel pity.

So let's cut to the chase even if it brings on yet another civil war. And this is where the help of other nations will be most critical. It is time to employ some 'outside the box' thinking which could bring benefit to the entire North American continent, let alone the world. The citizens of the United States of America and the world have become frustrated at the lack of progress on any and all of the issues in play – and there are a whack of them.

Guess what? The reasons for the American Civil War (1861-1865) point the way to the solution and eventual benefits to everyone concerned. As you undoubtedly recall, the reason for the Civil War in the first place was the South's insistence on the continuation of slavery with secession from the Union. That's right – the USA needs to be divided along roughly the same lines demanded by the secessionists some 150 years ago! In other words, the North made a serious error in not letting them secede and the entire country has been paying for it ever since.

The proposal is a very simple one in reality. Take all of the what we will call the RED states, which are really the most southerly ones, and give them to Mexico. The country could be renamed RED-NEXICO as in rednecks and Mexico. Into this melting pot of death, destruction, convoluted thinking, religious fervor, gun addicts, right wing societies (NRA, Born Again Morons, white nationalists, etc.) pro-life ning nangs, Nascar addicted, arrogant, stupid and the hopeless people of America, most of the unemployable, poorly educated folks, rapists, paedophiles, violent criminals, most rednecks and other ne'er-do-wells will number about 300 million people when all is said and done. It is a perfect fit if one looks at what constitutes the current country of Mexico (that is, soon-to-be RED-NEXICO) because they will get back all of the territory they claimed was stolen by the U.S. from them and then some. Almost all illegal immigrants speak Spanish as do the folks in the U.S. south and the Mexicans. Throw in California which will soon fall into the Pacific Ocean in any event and we have a us a convoy!

Now what should be done about the remaining northern states or what we will refer to the green states? Quite simple really. Give them all to Canada and rename the country CAN-AMERICA. With them go the wealthier states with better employment figures and opportunities along with most of the top class universities which will go undergo a seismic change over the next quarter century, no world wide income tax, a corporate tax on profitability or flat tax which must be paid, no lobbyists, severe penalties for moving manufacturing offshore, lower teen pregnancies, racism and sexism to be dealt with severely, no sub prime mortgages, most of the fresh water, an abundance of hydro electric power, sufficient oil and gas reserves to last well into the next century, minerals galore, oodles of room, strict and honest banking regulations, bilingualism, much less violence, severe firearm controls, more attention to global climate change and other similar world problems, no Nascar, lower divorce rates, domestic violence and so on. Think about it for a moment. The list of benefits are inexhaustible.

It is a win/win for both sides of the equation except for one vital but missing ingredient. With it comes the most important caveat – all citizens in CAN-AMERICA will have the right to vote in person or by post/internet in a national referendum which could affect them. The political power will rest with the people and not the politicians, one of the clearest failings of the United States form of republic.These referendum issues could include, but are not necessarily limited to, a declaration of war, debt, immigration, expulsion of criminals, complete gun control, mosques, military, industrial, political and media complexes, trade, currency, prisons, joining and contributing to stem winding world organizations, infrastructure repairs, a mandatory health system at lower cost and effectiveness, reducing military expenditures by 90%, etc. etc. This will blunt political power and politicians at every turn when they try to do anything – and they always will – which is not in the best interests of the new country.

CAN-AMERICA can really make an impression on the rest of the world with +/- 250 million people by taking a much more critical view of whether to belong to various groups or organizations which have clearly outlived their usefulness. NATO, the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund immediately come to mind but there are many, many others which increase the income tax burdens of people unnecessarily.

Many naysayers will insist that such a geographical and political division in North America will not work but Europe is a showcase of how it does. In fact, many could foresee the eventual fusion of CAN-AMERICA into a worldwide economic trading block of which it would be a dominating member along with China, Russia, India, etc. On the political side, it will see the demise of the two party system along with the republicans and democrats under their new regimes.

Now for the clincher which is an updated version of the current U.S. president's call for a wall dividing countries both south and north of the U.S. border. There will be a strip of land measuring 100 kilometres wide separating RED-NEXICO and CAN-AMERICA. It will be electric fenced to 10 metres on all sides and be patrolled electronically 24/7 and by drones. Dense forests will be planted which, with proper husbandry, will flourish eventually to the benefit of both countries. Anyone entering or caught within these 100 kms will be eliminated immediately whether they come from CAN-AMERICA or RED-NEXICO. The cost of building, maintaining and patrolling no woman or no man's land will be shared equally between the the two countries. Any immigration from one country to another will have to go through official channels as there will be no borders to cross except for the 100 kms which means no one would make it. It would kill tourism between the new countries for many years but who really wants to travel to RED-NEXICO in particular!

Unknown to many Americans who are living in the U.S. at the moment is the fact that many of their fellow citizens are surrendering their American nationality in disgust. It has moved from a trickle 25 years ago to where it has become a flood today. Most embassies are inundated with requests – so much so that waiting periods of up to 2 years are not uncommon and growing more expensive every year. Of course, anyone wanting to do so must have another passport to fall back on as well.
This is a very abridged version of a much more detailed proposal but the drift is clear – the United States is slipping quickly and inexorably into third world country and 'shit hole' country status to utilize the current president's description. In many opinions, it is already there! Let's all jettison this cancer in the world so the rest of us can get on with our lives!

EVEN IF THIS SEPARATION/SECESSION SHOULD BE ACCEPTED (AS IN FORCED DOWN THEIR THROATS), THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN BE SAVED IN THE PROPOSED FORMAT GIVEN THE LIST OF ISSUES WHICH HAVE ACCUMULATED SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II 75 YEARS AGO!!!

P.S. Any input which will enhance any aspect of this proposal which is more than a matter of detail is sorely welcomed as implementation will be something requiring great skill! Criticisms are also warmly encouraged as long as they are not simply more bleating about how unfair it would be, how civil war will break out, how the 300 million guns will be used to shoot their way out of this, how the political slop will stop it and so on. America is doomed as it is now and saving the best parts is paramount.

IN THE WELL KNOWN LYRICS OF THE SCAR STRANGLED BANNER, IT USED TO BE KNOWN AS "THE LAND OF THE BRAVE AND THE HOME OF THE FREE!" NOW IT IS KNOWN AS "THE LAND OF THE FAT AND THE HOME OF THE FEARFUL!"

BORDERING ON STUPIDITY

MEXICO & CANADA

Freda Lipshitz , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 11:54 pm GMT
Recently, I briefly touched on why I think the United States of America is done and dusted after almost 244 years of existence. Fred Reed, who is so much more eloquent with words than I thinks so as well in A Country Not Salvageable!

IT IS INTERESTING AT THE OUTSET TO OBSERVE THAT THE MAIN REASON THE UNITED STATES FINDS ITSELF IN AN IRREDEEMABLE DIVE IS BECAUSE IT IS IN THE DNA OF THEIR CITIZENS. YEP – THAT'S RIGHT – THEIR DNA!

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FOR MANY DECADES, IF NOT ALMOST 2 1/2 CENTURIES, THEY HAVE INCORPORATED RACISM, SEXISM, BULLYING, WAR MONGERING AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IN THEIR DNA TO MENTION BUT A FEW. THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM IS AS FOLLOWS:

After almost 244 years in existence, 221 of which have been spent at war, the United States of America can no longer find a way to extricate itself from a situation which has been many decades in the making. It has become painfully clear that the 3 branches of government (executive, legislative and judicial) so proudly exhibited as effective and meaningful checks and balances no longer works. The military/industrial complex, now joined by the political/media complex, has made it impossible for anyone to Make America Great Again!

No one can see the United States extricating themselves from this unbelievable mess without dropping nuclear bombs on themselves and other nations around the world. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face is not a solution as they have discovered on many, many occasions throughout their history. But there is one solution, and probably only one, which could work given help from other nations.

As everyone knows, everywhere one looks and everything one looks at in America is in serious difficulty – most of which will never be corrected without major and prolonged surgery. Take a few examples only such as debt, education, infrastructure, immigration, constant war mongering, racism, irreparable political divisions, a disappearing middle class, sexism, wealth in fewer and fewer hands, debilitating unemployment, a dismal trade imbalance, gun control along with associated deaths and injuries, a non performing and dishonest judiciary, catering to one country in the Middle East, lobbying, a weakened electorate, an out of control media, a dangerous religious fervor, a bullying approach to everything, prison incarceration rates, non stop political campaigning, a rapidly falling life expectancy, obesity due to fast foods along with a couch potato syndrome and a constant interference in the affairs of other sovereign nations, little or no respect for the ravages of climate change and dropping out of signed agreements and treaties. And this is to only name a very few issues as they now have managed in addition to become the absolute laughingstock of the world. A very dangerous and emotional one to be sure – but a laughingstock nevertheless for which a few people now feel pity.

So let's cut to the chase even if it brings on yet another civil war. And this is where the help of other nations will be most critical. It is time to employ some 'outside the box' thinking which could bring benefit to the entire North American continent, let alone the world. The citizens of the United States of America and the world have become frustrated at the lack of progress on any and all of the issues in play – and there are a whack of them.

Guess what? The reasons for the American Civil War (1861-1865) point the way to the solution and eventual benefits to everyone concerned. As you undoubtedly recall, the reason for the Civil War in the first place was the South's insistence on the continuation of slavery with secession from the Union. That's right – the USA needs to be divided along roughly the same lines demanded by the secessionists some 150 years ago! In other words, the North made a serious error in not letting them secede and the entire country has been paying for it ever since.

The proposal is a very simple one in reality. Take all of the what we will call the RED states, which are really the most southerly ones, and give them to Mexico. The country could be renamed RED-NEXICO as in rednecks and Mexico. Into this melting pot of death, destruction, convoluted thinking, religious fervor, gun addicts, right wing societies (NRA, Born Again Morons, white nationalists, etc.) pro-life ning nangs, Nascar addicted, arrogant, stupid and the hopeless people of America, most of the unemployable, poorly educated folks, rapists, paedophiles, violent criminals, most rednecks and other ne'er-do-wells will number about 300 million people when all is said and done. It is a perfect fit if one looks at what constitutes the current country of Mexico (that is, soon-to-be RED-NEXICO) because they will get back all of the territory they claimed was stolen by the U.S. from them and then some. Almost all illegal immigrants speak Spanish as do the folks in the U.S. south and the Mexicans. Throw in California which will soon fall into the Pacific Ocean in any event and we have a us a convoy!

Now what should be done about the remaining northern states or what we will refer to the green states? Quite simple really. Give them all to Canada and rename the country CAN-AMERICA. With them go the wealthier states with better employment figures and opportunities along with most of the top class universities which will go undergo a seismic change over the next quarter century, no world wide income tax, a corporate tax on profitability or flat tax which must be paid, no lobbyists, severe penalties for moving manufacturing offshore, lower teen pregnancies, racism and sexism to be dealt with severely, no sub prime mortgages, most of the fresh water, an abundance of hydro electric power, sufficient oil and gas reserves to last well into the next century, minerals galore, oodles of room, strict and honest banking regulations, bilingualism, much less violence, severe firearm controls, more attention to global climate change and other similar world problems, no Nascar, lower divorce rates, domestic violence and so on. Think about it for a moment. The list of benefits are inexhaustible.

It is a win/win for both sides of the equation except for one vital but missing ingredient. With it comes the most important caveat – all citizens in CAN-AMERICA will have the right to vote in person or by post/internet in a national referendum which could affect them. The political power will rest with the people and not the politicians, one of the clearest failings of the United States form of republic.These referendum issues could include, but are not necessarily limited to, a declaration of war, debt, immigration, expulsion of criminals, complete gun control, mosques, military, industrial, political and media complexes, trade, currency, prisons, joining and contributing to stem winding world organizations, infrastructure repairs, a mandatory health system at lower cost and effectiveness, reducing military expenditures by 90%, etc. etc. This will blunt political power and politicians at every turn when they try to do anything – and they always will – which is not in the best interests of the new country.

CAN-AMERICA can really make an impression on the rest of the world with +/- 250 million people by taking a much more critical view of whether to belong to various groups or organizations which have clearly outlived their usefulness. NATO, the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund immediately come to mind but there are many, many others which increase the income tax burdens of people unnecessarily.

Many naysayers will insist that such a geographical and political division in North America will not work but Europe is a showcase of how it does. In fact, many could foresee the eventual fusion of CAN-AMERICA into a worldwide economic trading block of which it would be a dominating member along with China, Russia, India, etc. On the political side, it will see the demise of the two party system along with the republicans and democrats under their new regimes.

Now for the clincher which is an updated version of the current U.S. president's call for a wall dividing countries both south and north of the U.S. border. There will be a strip of land measuring 100 kilometres wide separating RED-NEXICO and CAN-AMERICA. It will be electric fenced to 10 metres on all sides and be patrolled electronically 24/7 and by drones. Dense forests will be planted which, with proper husbandry, will flourish eventually to the benefit of both countries. Anyone entering or caught within these 100 kms will be eliminated immediately whether they come from CAN-AMERICA or RED-NEXICO. The cost of building, maintaining and patrolling no woman or no man's land will be shared equally between the the two countries. Any immigration from one country to another will have to go through official channels as there will be no borders to cross except for the 100 kms which means no one would make it. It would kill tourism between the new countries for many years but who really wants to travel to RED-NEXICO in particular!

Unknown to many Americans who are living in the U.S. at the moment is the fact that many of their fellow citizens are surrendering their American nationality in disgust. It has moved from a trickle 25 years ago to where it has become a flood today. Most embassies are inundated with requests – so much so that waiting periods of up to 2 years are not uncommon and growing more expensive every year. Of course, anyone wanting to do so must have another passport to fall back on as well.
This is a very abridged version of a much more detailed proposal but the drift is clear – the United States is slipping quickly and inexorably into third world country and 'shit hole' country status to utilize the current president's description. In many opinions, it is already there! Let's all jettison this cancer in the world so the rest of us can get on with our lives!

EVEN IF THIS SEPARATION/SECESSION SHOULD BE ACCEPTED (AS IN FORCED DOWN THEIR THROATS), THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GUARANTEE THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN BE SAVED IN THE PROPOSED FORMAT GIVEN THE LIST OF ISSUES WHICH HAVE ACCUMULATED SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II 75 YEARS AGO!!!

P.S. Any input which will enhance any aspect of this proposal which is more than a matter of detail is sorely welcomed as implementation will be something requiring great skill! Criticisms are also warmly encouraged as long as they are not simply more bleating about how unfair it would be, how civil war will break out, how the 300 million guns will be used to shoot their way out of this, how the political slop will stop it and so on. America is doomed as it is now and saving the best parts is paramount.

IN THE WELL KNOWN LYRICS OF THE SCAR STRANGLED BANNER, IT USED TO BE KNOWN AS "THE LAND OF THE BRAVE AND THE HOME OF THE FREE!" NOW IT IS KNOWN AS "THE LAND OF THE FAT AND THE HOME OF THE FEARFUL!"

BORDERING ON STUPIDITY

MEXICO & CANADA

IvyMike , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:10 am GMT
Fred used to sharp, funny, and very politically incorrect, now he is a bitter old racist, the perfect mascot for the continuing descent of Unz Review.
Daemon , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:57 am GMT
@Gordon K. Shumway Spoken like a true foreskin-donor.

I'd suggest educating yourself on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FCuy163srRc?feature=oembed

Red Pill Angel , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 1:03 am GMT
@john cronk Fred's right, it's too late, but two things spelled our country's doom: colleges became factories for feminist propaganda which discouraging bright women from marrying and having children while they were young and fertile; then welfare was used as a tool to outsource childbearing and rearing to the poor. What could go wrong? Stir the pot for 75 years, voila! the evening news.
bluedog , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 1:11 am GMT
@ASimpleHistory Of course its hopeless just read what you posted that's the drivile that got us where we are,Canada's history with the Native Tribe are worse then worse, as the schools use the young native girls for their own pleasure.If blacks can't spell simple words then they are only to blame for they don't want to learn, for they learned how to play the blame game and the rest is history .
haha , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 1:31 am GMT
@Gordon K. Shumway Maybe, but why is little Willie tampered with for no reason. And without the owner's consent. Now don't come back with penile hygiene, penile cancer and other yesterday arguments. Countries with soap and water can keep little Willie clean and cancer free without chopping off its skin. Circumcision is an American tradition just as FMG is of others. Let us call a spade a spade.
LCBozo , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 1:41 am GMT
@Daemon Be kinder to our women. Circumcision is not on the level of female genital mutilation. Losing some skin is not comparable to losing the sexual sense organ. Just another SJW trying to impose their values on others.

https://www.webmd.com/cancer/cervical-cancer/news/20110106/male-circumcision-cuts-womens-cervical-cancer-risk

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/about/pac-20393550

Charles , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 2:06 am GMT
It is also true that the things we take completely for granted – harnessed electricity, clean potable running water, OTC medicines (to name a few) – will become less common, then rare, then un-heard-of. The people we see rioting cannot build, create, or maintain, they can only destroy. But we cannot KNOW the future. As absurd as it may seem (and its very absurdity makes me think it's possible), what if the Old World comes to the rescue, so to speak, of the New? Yeah I know, we're much more likely to be colonized by China, but still
Awash , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 2:23 am GMT
@Gordon K. Shumway I am against FGM, but how do you know African women don't enjoy sex? I read few days ago in the Cosmopolitan magazine that the g-spot doesn't exist. It concludes that intimacy is what makes women happy. Also it's not clear who enjoys sex more: the circumsized man or the uncircumcised.
Barb Dwyer , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 2:29 am GMT
@Gordon K. Shumway ALF!
R.C. , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 2:36 am GMT
@Gordon K. Shumway

"I'm glad to have spent my youth and middle age in a mostly sane America. I do not look forward to what's coming at me in my dotage."

Exactly!
Also, excellently witty, informed and entertaining article.
R.C.

Daemon , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 2:41 am GMT
@LCBozo Being against circumcision doesn't mean I'm automatically for FGM, you know. And no, considering 90% of the nerve endings are "inside" the part of the foreskin removed (and removed for the EXPLICIT purpose of denying pleasure from intercourse) – it is exactly the same as FGM.

And watch the video, the host debunks the supposed "health benefits" of cutting off a natural piece of your body. It's literally bronze age blood sacrifice for the modern era.

Anonymous [234] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 2:41 am GMT
Want to see the Sissy!Cops meet a violent offender? Go rent DEMOLITION MAN.
Priss Factor , says: Website Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 3:05 am GMT
I wonder .

if these people are so hostile to supremacism, why aren't they attacking Israeli consulates, protesting ADL & AIPAC, burning Israeli flags, and denouncing the Zionist 'genocide' of Palestinians?
Why aren't they denouncing Trump, Pelosi, Schumer, and others for their support of supremacist state of Israel?

I hear that this is an attack by the 'left'. If so, why is this 'left' so silent about the plight of Palestinians and other victims of US imperialism that is directed by Jews?

It's not about the Left. It's about punks and hoodlums serving as Janissary to Jewish Supremacist Power.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 3:34 am GMT
@follyofwar It's mad, totally mad, to call the American system of government a democracy. The rule of the super-rich is not the rule of the people, only the rule over the people.
Lee Lepanto , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 3:48 am GMT
Pretty good piece.

Deduct points for the umpteenth "Marry Latinas, White men. Some are pretty and their smartphones are set to English."

bruce county , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:13 am GMT
@neutral Negros with Nukes. What a comforting thought.
Mefobills , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:20 am GMT
Farrakhan and Nathanael have come up with a solution:

Segregation on Steroids:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=209240

usNthem , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:20 am GMT
Phenomenally talented at what? A few sports and some entertainment. Oh, and they do hate us, Fred. Rest assured of that.
Escher , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:21 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse Few democracies actually reflect the will of the voting public in the way they they are administered. The power elite runs the show.
Human society is inherently hierarchical, unless we revert to the hunter-gatherer lifestyle.
Reg Cæsar , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:30 am GMT

and phenomenally talented.

That's not the same as employable.

Nothing has worked.

Nor have they. For 400 years. That's a helluva long time for a subsidy.

Roppenheimer , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:33 am GMT
@neutral Not to worry. Most likely, very few of the US nukes are still operational. However, we lack the testing capacity to determine which are still functional and which are duds. Deterrence is based on fear, uncertainty and doubt.
Mefobills , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:35 am GMT
@Charlemagne Agree that universal suffrage voting is crazy-town. Women, on average, are not evolved for protecting the frontiers, and vote with emotion. There are always exceptions of course. Minority races tend to vote as a block.

Mosley seems to have come up with a solution that is lost to history:

Basically, voters vote on subjects they are qualified for. Corporate state does not mean corporatocracy, which is what we have now in the U.S.

________________________________________________

https://www.oswaldmosley.com/the-corporate-state/

Governments are elected on the strength of their appeal to passion or to sentiment. Once in office they promptly resign their effective power in favour of the great interests within the State, but yet superior to the State, who exercise their power in secret. The increasingly technical nature of all problems in an economic age has made it difficult or impossible to explain the real issues to the electorate as a whole. The division between daily politics and the reality of Government has become ever greater.

The technician has become ever more enchained by the passion, the prejudice and the folly of uninstructed politics. By such a system as we advocate, the technician, who is the architect of our industrial future, is freed for his task. He is given the mandate for that task by the informed franchise of his colleagues in his own industry. A vote so cast will be the result of experience and information. Is not this in fact rationalised democracy? Is not this system preferable to the solemn humbug of present elections, which assumes that the most technical problems of modern government, ranging from currency management to the evolution of a scientific protective system, can be settled by a few days' loose discussion in the turmoil of a General Election?

The ordinary man would greatly resent such treatment of the facts of his daily industry and life. If someone strolled into an engineering shop and, after five minutes' cursory examination of an intricate process which the engineer had studied all his life, proceeded to tell him how to do it, the engineer would quickly tell the intruder he was a presumptuous ass . Yet these are the methods which our present electoral system applies to that most intricate and technical of processes, the government of a civilised State.

Rationalised democracy, as well as rationalised industry, has become an imperative necessity. The Corporate State provides the only known solution to the problem. Our electoral system has become a farce, worse even than in the days of bribed elections and pocket boroughs. As it is organised at present, our system of government lacks the calibre to carry us out of trade depression and set Britain again on top of the world.

Reg Cæsar , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:42 am GMT
@Freda Lipshitz

10 metres

Get real. Even Canucks only use "metres" when they have to.

reducing military expenditures by 90%, etc. etc.

We did the opposite in 1917 and 1942. Stupid us

gun control along with associated deaths and injuries

Well, you've got that right.

Eric Novak , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:43 am GMT
@follyofwar Infectious dick cheese is barbaric, not its prophylaxis.
Reg Cæsar , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:45 am GMT

In its writ-large form, trying to force West Virginia to accept the culture of Massachusetts will produce only anger.

Who the hell is suggesting that? A tour of the radio dial would show that the influence goes the other way. Where are the Arthur Fiedlers and Leroy Andersons when we need them?

Eric Novak , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:47 am GMT
@Daemon It's literally as much bullshit as a video about the benefits of eating an all vegan diet of lawn trimmings.
Zarathustra , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:53 am GMT
It is always immense pleasure to read Fred Reed.

Here is his statement of century.

We can't solve the problem if we don't know what it is.

northeast , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 4:58 am GMT
Good column Fred, but blacks are "phenomenally talented" is an interesting statement. Aside from some basic talent with song & dance and athletics blacks are in general dismal.

I'll give them this: they know suffering mostly self-inflicted. It's a tragic situation for them and us.

Rahan , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:18 am GMT
@SteveK9
I must disagree with the concept that the US lockdown was "copied from the Chinese".

While in no way do I support the current thoughts gaining popularity that "democracy doesn't work" (works well enough in sane places like Japan, Korea, Slovakia, and such), this precise example–the handling of the novel coronavirus–showed Beijing in a quite OK light.

(The complaints how "they should have sounded the alarm half an hour earlier this would have changed everything are only voiced by place that were too moronic to react properly in time, unlike all of East Asia, which did)

What China did is lockdown ONE city (Wuhan), and sever connections between various other cities and counties, in order to check the spread. And thus, they checked the spread. In 90% places there was even never no "mandatory social distancing" or "mandatory mask wearing", what people did they did because they felt they should, through grassroot peer pressure.

The whole Eastern Asian approach, China included, was:
1) Clamp down instantly on hot spots
2) Sever connections between suspect counties
3) After 1-2 viral cycles open up again

What the US and UK did was first go with the "nothing to see here" model, and then go into "incompetent overreacting mode" when it was already far too late. This is NOT "the Chinese model" that we saw.

RichardTaylor , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:19 am GMT
But we're importing all the spiffy Latinos that Fred loves so much. We should be getting better!

These headlines are hyperbole. America isn't going to "collapse". It still has far more power than any other country. I don't know what will happen in the future and the state of White Americans is a problem. But the country isn't going anywhere.

Hang All Text Drivers , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:29 am GMT
""""A statue of Ulysses Grant was pulled down in the belief that he was a Confederate general."""

Most sources agree grant owned a single slave during the CW. His wife had a bunch of them.

Many UNION generals were slaveowners during the war. Which show how dishonest it is to say the war was fought to free the slaves.

Hang All Text Drivers , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:33 am GMT
"""Our system of governments has proved itself weak, feckless, and unable to govern. The chaotic response to the coronavirus is a prime example, there being no national policy and the states being told to do as they see fit. """"

What's wrong with that? The FF took states rights for granted. That's why they wrote the tenth amendment and that's why the federal constitution says the federal govt cannot by itself amend its constitution. Only the states can.

Hang All Text Drivers , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:40 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse ""It's mad, totally mad, to call the American system of government a democracy. The rule of the super-rich is not the rule of the people, only the rule over the people.""

Democracy is dead not because of the rich but because of the Supreme Court. Those 9 unelected old goats appointed for life have granted themselves final say on every issue in america. They write the laws even though the constitution says "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states."

Miro23 , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:45 am GMT

The world will not again credit its charades of moral leadership. The rot, the tens of thousands of derelict people living on the sidewalks, the looting and fire setting, the censorship, are now visible to the entire earth. Oh well. It was a good thing while it lasted.

The biggest contrast between the US and successful societies seems to involve the concept of citizens rights and obligations.

If Americans had a strong concept of citizenship it could guide them through many difficult issues. For example the world's longest running democracy (Switzerland) puts a heavy list obligations on its citizens, such as military service, active regular participation in local meetings/ issue based elections, and makes it clear to them that they are a part of a historical society with no opt outs.

Americans have few or no obligations towards their founding history. They aren't required to study it, respect it, or see themselves as part of it – in fact, to contribute in any way at all. Rather, the Jewish media encourages them to demean it, and they are defined as "consumers" (something that feeds and shops) rather than citizens.

Agreed that the US continues on its fast downward track, and it will involve more serious financial and social crises.

On a basic level, US society is hopelessly uncompetitive with places like modern China (great unified national projects in education, industry, infrastructure and national development) while it papers over the cracks with debt, and pushes its ZioGlob SJW agenda.

Just another serf , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:45 am GMT
Yes, there may be no future for this society in white European terms. But it can still be a magnificent place for people of color. The African population is expected to swell to more than 45 billion in the coming years. Why not open up this unoccupied land and these existent cities to these populations? There is a similar population spike ahead in Mexico and areas of central and South America. These individuals are skilled farmers and they can make the U.S. flourish with new crops.

If these new immigrants can build on the wonderful democratic ideals of the disappearing white population, we may see a terrific future for mankind, also womankind.

jack daniels , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 5:49 am GMT
The author seems to think the actions of rabble arise spontaneously. But they are just chess pieces in a campaign to destroy the traditional Christian America. Money c0ntrols our politics by owning the media and in effect the political parties and academe. The flow and flux of opinions is in the hands of very bright people who unfortunately hate us.
Wood Stove , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:02 am GMT

What fun, what entertainment. And rare: One seldom sees the collapse of a landmark society

Imagine thinking you're not standing in line to the slaughter.

I wonder if you'll still be thinking this once BLM militarizes. And they will, just look at the sort of "donations" they are getting from the fortune 500. BLM is bigger than both parties, and they are gearing up for a 1917. That means red terrors, the abolished police replaced by NKVD style outfits that will abduct, torture, and murder the people you love, it means mass executions,

The writing's on the wall; the anti-white hate speech, 1619, the statues being toppled, the kneeling and appeasing, the more demands, the more fanaticism, the more hatred in this racial rendition of marxism the proletariat are non-whites and the bourgeoisie are whites. Watch out. There will be ZERO mercy if you're white. No matter how much you kneel, it will never be enough.

It's not hard to imagine; a second wave of clownvirus to scare white people into lockdowns, a chinese cyber attack to black out everything, then suddenly a red terror of crazed and armed BLM mobs universally activated to slaughter the white sitting ducks in an Esther style genocide which the jewish media will absolutely love. Interestingly this covid hoax was launched around Purim.

Be very afraid.

The Germ Theory of Disease , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:03 am GMT
@Freda Lipshitz Have you found the Yellow Sign?
Anonymous [237] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:11 am GMT
https://www.unz.com/freed/a-country-not-salvageable/#respond

"America speaks of the rule of the people, a horrible idea, and seems to be getting there."

Do not think anyone can know

Their speech is restricted so we cannot know what they think

Their freedom to associate is restricted so they cannot organize with those of a like mind

Their freedom to live as they will is restricted by federal legislation and nine judges

They are forced to pay for others bad decisions and to bail them out

They are robbed of their money to be told how they can spend it and with whom

The rule of a free people would cause others to rise to the level of those who do best to out do them if they were free to do so. It is the lack of freedom to do so, not that a people being free does not make the best rule

Anon [383] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:31 am GMT
Worldwide the depths of ignorance amongst the dark races is mind blowing. In South Africa after 25 years of black rule which includes the control of state run schools and their curricula, an acceptable pass rate is now 30%! Knowing 3 out of every 10 things is acceptable. I mentioned to one of the anthropoids the other day about the excesses of the Ottoman empire in Eastern Europe and Greece to be told "I don't care what Otto did", there is literally no hope. The barbarians are in the city.
Richard B , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:36 am GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse

countries that outstandingly look after their people, such as Cuba

I can say from extensive first hand experience and the testimonials of family, friends, etc. that not one country in Latin America looks after its people.

And that most definitely includes Cuba.

But keep dreaming.

Anonymous [291] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:38 am GMT
@Daemon Well, you still replied to a comment opening, in our time of violently, unworthily, cultural legal and social female privilege, with "Be kinder to our women."
Astuteobservor II , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:40 am GMT
@SteveK9 Maybe you can stop hating the Chinese and read the guidelines on how to deal with pandemics.

Maybe, just maybe you will learn something.

Richard B , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:40 am GMT
@follyofwar

Last summer I read "The End of Democracy" by a Belgian named Christophe Buffin de Chosal, and I'm now convinced that it is not.

Just curious. Did the author offer a definition of Democracy?

If so, could you share it here?

Thanks.

Astuteobservor II , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 6:48 am GMT
Putting the foot down would work. I think the hand outs are at least partly responsible for the uselessness of the blacks. Enabling is a pretty dangerous thing when done over 8 decades.

Take away the gravy train, it just might force them out of their stupor.

But who knows. It might also push all blacks into open revolt.

So, take your pick

Biff , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 7:16 am GMT

Schooling will continue its plummet.

I think George Carlin described this the best "the owners aren't interested in people capable of critical thinking – it's not in their interest. They only want obedient workers "

Dumbo , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 7:19 am GMT
The problem in America is not black people, it's white people. Take a look at current pop culture which is basically homos and race-mixing 24/7. Take a look at the issues that worry Americans (nooses and bathrooms for transexuals). Look at American celebrities, the Kartrashians. Look at whom they want to vote, Senile Joe Biden or Trashy Trump (which is the less bad alternative). Look at all the morbidly obese people moving around in scooters to buy even more sodas and fast food.

It's too far gone.

obwandiyag , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 7:31 am GMT
You fucking asshole. You think A. blacks are rich because they get welfare, and B. only blacks get welfare.

You are a fucking idiot asshole. And, oh, by the way, wrong. Dead wrong.

Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 7:39 am GMT
@Priss Factor

It's not about the Left. It's about punks and hoodlums serving as Janissary to Jewish Supremacist Power.

Exactly!

And Fearless Freddie knows it. Of course when Fred sees this pointed out to him he pretends not to notice -- like with so many others, it's much safer for him to go after the puppets, not the (((puppet-masters))).

(Although Janissaries were highly respected elite troops -- not exactly what we see here.)

Jiminy , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 8:00 am GMT
I keep thinking of an old cartoon by Leunig showing a family visiting the museum of lost manners. The boy is interested in a diorama of a man giving up his chair for a lady. I feel the same could happen to all of the toppled statues, the only difference is that they will end up in a museum for lost causes. Every weekend families will visit and sadly reminisce of a past lost.
Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 8:17 am GMT
@Charlemagne Universal suffrage is a problem, turning into a popularity contest where only the rich can compete, but it's that, that it's so easily corrupted, and is, that's the problem.

With election by lot there would have been no world wars.

Felix Keverich , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 8:20 am GMT
@neutral

When the Soviet Union ended it could fall back into various nation states

Soviet Union did not "fall back into nation states", because no such states even existed before USSR. Soviet Union disintegrated in line with its administrative division, the equivalent would be America's 50 states going their separate way.

Stephen Allen , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 9:26 am GMT
The author forgot about Flynt and other such cities. Also, is it the dictatorship of the proletariat bombing other nations, notably Arab nations, not quite black, yet close, into oblivion.
Stephen Allen , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 9:32 am GMT
@Chris Mallory Nazis roaming the Web.
Emily , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 9:46 am GMT
Very interesting article, thanks.
However it has one great deceit aand deficit.
quote
'The Soviet Union spoke of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but lived under the dictatorship of a gray aristocracy.'
No Fred.
It was not a 'gray' aristocracy.
It was a Jewish one.
The jews created and controlled the USSR for years.
Murdering millions of actual Russians.
Read Solzhenitsyn .
Imprisoning them, torturing them and enslaving them.
The falling of the Berlin wall freed the Russian people more than anyone else, it can be argued.
It kept the Russians IN – in one almighty Jewish controlled prison.
But even then – a druncken corrupt Yeltsin was placed in charge – a USA/Jewish puppet.
And the takaway plunder of Russia and its people began – obscene plunder which Putin is reclaiming as he can.
Many jews then fled.
Not only Fred, did you miss the Jewish connection with Russia – you have managed to ignore the Jewish connections with BLM and the current racial turmoil.
You seem to have a poor opinion of minorities fair enough – most of us would agree with what you write.
But you are very coy about the minority with all its financial power and dual citizenships behind the USSR, and the corruption and breaking of western nations today.
Why?
Um!
animalogic , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:11 am GMT
Excuse me, I feel the need for a quibble:
" a true dictatorship of the proletariat,". The rioters etc are not the "proletariat", they are the "Lumpen-proletariat". The Proletariat are working people. They usually have families, mortgages, car payments. They struggle with health insurance. They may even dream of their kids going to college. The ultimate challenge with these people is to encourage them towards class consciousness -- which means roughly, a consciousness of their own interests as a group.
The "Lumpen-proletariat" are basically social riff-raff. They are the odds & sods. They tend to live outside or unevenly connected to the "everyday" world. They may not be "bad" people. Indeed, they may be "respectable". However, they will rarely have a consciousness of social & political realities, even as they apply to themselves.
ShogunMike , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:23 am GMT
@Oliver Elkington We cannot organize as every time we do the SPLC labels anything white as racist and in comes the corrupt federally bums of in cognition to throw whites in prison. The writer is correct, We Are Doomed.
Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:25 am GMT
@Emily

But you are very coy about the minority with all its financial power and dual citizenships behind the USSR, and the corruption and breaking of western nations today.
Why?

Because behind Fred's leather-jacket-Brando-Wild-One alter-ego, he's just plain scared.

Scared of Jews -- just like Brando was.

Pathetic, but he's got lots of company.

orionyx , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:29 am GMT
@SteveK9 The Chinese response toCovidwas not insane, it was rational.

Having experienced several suspicious plagues among their food animals in recent months, the Chinese feared they were facing bio-warfare, and made the only rational response. With recent flareups, they probably fear they're facing phase 2 – and they probably are.

America, on the other hand, destroyed its economy to preserve the banks – setting fire to the house to keep the furniture warm. And now the rabble, fantastically talented at burning things, are burning the furniture.

Goodbye America.

Thomasina , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:31 am GMT
@bluedog Canada is gone. No glue. Started downhill about the same time as the U.S. – in the 70's/80's. Yes, they treated the natives terribly, but from what I read at Unz and elsewhere, the natives did their fair share of raiding and slaving. Such is man, unfortunately.
Moi , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:40 am GMT
@Gordon K. Shumway Unfortunately, the American people are the only people so stupid as to have opened their doors wide to an influx of immigrants to the point they'll soon become a minority in their own country. What used to be our core culture is fast disappearing. English is no longer the lingua franca, but we are now a bi-lingual English and Spanish speaking country. Say bye-bye America and go back to sleep. It's over, thanks to our "leaders'–an unbroken line of dumbshit, sellouts!
neutral , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:43 am GMT
@Felix Keverich Russia and the Baltic states existed before, the stans had some clearly identifiable ethnic groups they belonged to. I don't want to go into the usual impenetrable and pointless debates about Belarus and Ukraine, but for most part the states that came out of the Soviet Union were more natural nation states that came out of the Africa post colonialism, the US states are not close to anything like nation states from the USSR.
Hartnell , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:44 am GMT
@Oliver Elkington I think it is simply all down to levels of comfort on both sides. For the left, they are protesting and rioting because the state supports them. There will be no consequences and ultimately they can return back to their lives as the smoke clears problem free. For the right, they too are also comfortable and do not want to lose this comfort over fighting back for what is right. Instead they'd rather 'protest' on the internet. It will take dwindling levels of comfort to get the right to truly start organising.
Moi , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:44 am GMT
@obwandiyag Blacks suffer from post-slavery PTSD–many minorities don't see racism everywhere or blame their problems to racism.
gotmituns , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 10:52 am GMT
@IvyMike Reed is not a "racist," he's a racial realist like me – there's a difference.
Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:07 am GMT
@Oliver Elkington A few years ago some locals in my community had organized a family picnic for residents to come and celebrate a day of European heritage. All were invited to celebrate, there were certainly no color restrictions or anything of the sort. This area is heavily Italian, Polish, Irish and Welsh, all descendants of immigrants who came over to work in the coal mines. We're talking a day of middle-aged people enjoying ethnic European foods and games for the kids, tomato casseroles, pierogis and kielbasa.

Then all the Jewish gestapo groups suddenly appeared, denounced it as a day of white supremacy, SPLC of course weighed in against it, the local politicians caved to the pressure and finally saw that the park permit for the picnic was pulled. At the time, I found all the negative reactions to this picnic hard to believe.

But here we are now, denied the right to peaceful assembly while anti-white forces have full freedom to promote hatred, physical violence, looting and arson.

The Alarmist , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:08 am GMT
Here's your happy ending:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/r8fkrPP_0qA?feature=oembed

Whitewolf , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:19 am GMT
@RichardTaylor

I don't know what will happen in the future and the state of White Americans is a problem. But the country isn't going anywhere.

The US is circling the drain. The last I heard over a billion dollars was donated openly to BLM by big corporations as a reward for instigating riots and looting across the country. The rulers aren't even bothering to pretend to care about the future of the US.

Whitewolf , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:24 am GMT
@Hartnell The two sides aren't left and right. They are the oligarchs who run the country vs everyone else.
Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:32 am GMT
@Freda Lipshitz Brilliant, Freda! I found myself laughing out loud on reading your Red-Nexico.

You are right. Good idea. Let the South secede.

Except, why shoul they fuse with Mexico? They could be independent of both.

The basic American problem is the rule of the rich, which is predatory rule, and the gift America gives them, a tiny few, is vast wealth all in one country. If that wealth was divided up, part in the Confederacy as an independent country, part in New England as an independent country, part CA and a few of the nearby states ditto, part WA ditto ditto, Hawaii shunted off, independent, flyover states picking the nearest of those others to join, the rule of the rich would be over! Prey on what?

Think. The rule of the super-rich over Cuba? It that why Cuba has free health care? Free education? No-one in debt? Though under beastly US sanctions for decades?

Split the US up into a few medium-sized countries and SO many problems would be solved.

Smithsonian_2 , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:35 am GMT
@follyofwar

Is democracy even a good thing? Last summer I read "The End of Democracy" by a Belgian named Christophe Buffin de Chosal, and I'm now convinced that it is not.

You need *some* method to get rid of failed politicians that doesn't involve large amounts of physical destruction.

Achmed E. Newman , says: Website Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:40 am GMT
@IvyMike Racism is not the problem, Mike. I always appreciate a writer that states the truth, and Mr. Reed has done a bang-up job in stating the truth about the situation here. (It's the other 95% of his columns in which he has lots of truth but always some piece of his stupidity thrown in, that make me comment so much in the threads thereunder.)

About the only minor detail I disagree with in this one is that, even though it's true that having a complete democracy* with anyone being able to vote HAS been a bad thing, that's not the Communism. The proto-Commies are the antifa idiots pulling down the statues. The world has seen this before just over a century ago in Russia, over 70 years ago in China, etc. Many of us either don't know any history or don't want to open our eyes to recognize this.

No, they haven't read Marx and Engles, and no, they don't have Mao's little red books. Just the same, it's the exact same mentality of wanting to tear down traditional society completely that makes these antifa the modern Commies. Don't get me wrong, they'll be bulldozed into ditches later by the ones in charge just the same, if this effort is completed in America, but they don't know that yet. Useful idiots abound right now.

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* The country was originally organized as a Constitutional Republic, NOT a democracy.

GMC , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:42 am GMT
The Zionist Plan or Deep State Plan or NWO Plan { take your pick } is working 100%. The populace is confused and programmed, and the "NWO Plan " has gotten filthy filthy Rich , while leaving the people so dumbed down – that they are blaming one another or some puppet government people for all the shit going down. The Plan started over 100 yrs ago and we can look back and see it – 1913 Federal Reserve, Politicians in their back pocket, WWI , WW II, CIA founded, 1965 Open and Unlimited immigration , JFK and others assassinated, the Wars, 9/11, . We know who is even doing it – but Nobody is left to Stop Them. The Top people in the Federal Gov. and the State Govs. are mostly – all in – it can only runs its course – now. Just like a Virus,
Achmed E. Newman , says: Website Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:42 am GMT
@Red Pill Angel True, RPA, and what Fred somewhat described, but with not much detail, is that this is part of the Long March through the institutions that has been going on since the middle 1960s. The marchers reached their destination, total control, probably 10 years ago.
sonofman , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:55 am GMT
The European-American is still the majority, so if America falls, whose fault is it?
European-Americans are the majority in a government whose top priorities are themselves, corporations and a foreign apartheid government. European-Americans have the majority vote and continually vote for parties and representatives who seem to have little interest in American prosperity.
European-Americans are the ones who idly stood by in silence within the herd and watched as their government facilitated Jim Crow, welfare and targeted mass incarceration against the Black African-American community, and then not understand why there is inequality
Apparently, too many European-Americans don't read history or are not interested in American heritage, because they don't seem to understand the importance of the first and second amendments, and that whosoever targets to eliminate these rights is an enemy.
Talk about IQ. Many European-Americans actually believe the propaganda of the Covid-19 hoax or that erasing one of the most important events in American history will resolve the media hyped racial tension.
And there are many European-Americans who do not seem to understand that the medical response to the "epidemic", and the policing against rioting is the responsibility of the State, not the federal government.
Why is it, that so many European-Americans do not understand that the United States is a democracy based upon freedom, moral principles and common sense, not a Marxist communist ideology.
If America fails, it is because too many Europeans don't think and act like they're Americans.
Ace , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 11:57 am GMT
@ASimpleHistory Those water systems that only send the lead contamination to our helpless black wards? Must be in the hundreds. Special valves and pipes yo!

Examples please.

Fred supplies examples of a flood of good will and mawkish stupidity showered on the diversity and you counter with some penny ante hiccup in the scheme of things to sustain the fantasy of "In it `Orrid?"

American Africans butt crackers and our precious progressive pansies will soon enough sift through the rubble and garbage of an amazing experiment and never understand the truth of the saying that the best is the enemy of the good. Or that a bird in hand is worth two in the Bush. Thinking white!

Grahamsno(G64) , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:00 pm GMT

and mathematics will be played down even in astrophysics (this is being done)

Wow is that true any sources for this vandalism?

Ace , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:05 pm GMT
@Bragadocious Sure. If not for the virus (higher) education would be achieving new heights of excellence.

Ol' Fred. So out of touch. It's sad.

EliteCommInc. , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:07 pm GMT
"Here's your happy ending:"

Laughing.

VinnyVette , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:11 pm GMT
Fred you're back in rare form! The irony that the country that has done the most to uplift the white mans burden, is also the most racist seems well Words can't describe.
The more blacks get, the more racist we are. Time to toss em off the gravy train. Then at least if we are to be called racist, we are'nt pissing dollar after dollar down the river!
How bout we try leaving then to their own devices, since you know, blacks are the greatest builders of civilizations in the history of man kind.
Fred you have accurately and succinctly put into words what pisses sane whites off the most, the more we give, the bigger the black middle finger at us gets.
Ace , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:13 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse Yes. Cuba, the gold standard. And care to take a guess at the proportion of state budgets that goes to Medicaid?

Ever hear of state and community colleges? Astronomical debt for junk degrees is for flower children.

Stay focused.

Truth , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:14 pm GMT
@Priss Factor Why aren't you?
VinnyVette , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:17 pm GMT
@RichardTaylor Fred didn't say or imply the government would collapse. He's talking about civil society. Cultural collapse.
RoatanBill , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:20 pm GMT
@Bragadocious If someone is sick with Covid, that usually entails a breathing problem. I don't see how people with breathing difficulties are going to march through the desert for days to show up at a US emergency room.

Not plausible.

RT Rider , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:30 pm GMT
There are still plenty of nice peaceful places to live in America. Most of the idiocy we're witnessing is in the the large urban areas. We lose sight of the geographical immensity of the US. Even in Southern California, where I live, there are huge sparsely populated areas, and even more in the north. The first amendment was supposed to allow for freedom of association, (as interpreted by the Supreme Court) and that includes who we live with and amongst, in private life. So much for that.

I see the problem more as a political organization issue. The U.S. moved away from a republic to an empire, and bled the country of resources to maintain that empire to enormously enrich the few. When the ability to plunder resources diminished, the ruling class switched to counterfeiting money on a grand scale to steal the wages of labor of the poor here, and abroad.

So it's a twofold problem. One is the collapse of the global empire, both by resistance of others (namely China and Russia), overreach, unaffordability, and incompetence. The other is the social, economic, and cultural collapse at home, caused by years of political, economic and social engineering, and outright theft by the ruling class.

In the real world (nature) entropy is a bitch. The reality is all our terms for society are the humanities terms for thermodynamics. Complex systems require a lot of energy and design to keep intact, let lone expand. The bigger the system the more required, and the more fragile it gets – particularly when run exclusively from the center. Running an empire from Washington in the modern world is about as complex as can be imagined. Far more than Rome had to deal with, and look what happened there.

To me the solution, is a redesign of America's political organization. Forget the empire and Republic, they're done. Design an organization similar to Switzerland, which is probably the only true confederation on the planet. Let's return political power back to the states, eliminate or drastically reduce the powers of the center (ie. Washington), and let the people in each state decide how they wish to be governed there, and not by Washington. We might find that there are states that don't want to belong to any larger political unit. Fine. Smaller is better anyway. Let the pieces fall and let's see what combinations come out of it.

Emily , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:36 pm GMT
@Grahamsno(G64) Proof?.
Claiming they went to the moon fifty years ago .
And now they have to buy tickets on Russian rockets .
Something has seriously deteriorated in the US space race.
Of course – a 'claim' is meaningless when you have Kubrick standing by.
Look what can be done with a few sets of boxcutters LOL
daniel le mouche , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:36 pm GMT
" In truth, America has made the greatest effort ever essayed by one race to uplift another. Reflect: In 1954 an entirely white Supreme Court unanimously ended segregation. Later it found the use of IQ tests by employers illegal because blacks scored poorly, then found "affirmative action," racial discrimination against whites, legal (hardly oppression of blacks, this). An overwhelmingly white Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, the Voting Rights Act the next year." etc etc

Fred, has it ever occurred to you that this was all PLANNED, that it was all ON PURPOSE? Who in their right mind would sign a mass immigration bill? US, or World, Government would. Why? Social unrest. Cultural genocide. Divide and conquer. Chaos amongst the rabble.
And the rabble, as we clearly can see now, truly are rabble–unintelligent, thuggish, and all that. Many of their grandparents, if not all, were measured in speech and action, humble and perhaps even quite intelligent. No more. Now a great indicator of lack of if not intelligence then common sense–and true intelligence embraces common sense–is the modern university graduate.
As I've said for years, Beware the white female masters or doctorate holder!
But Fred, surely you can figure out that all these things don't just happen. Lay your cards on the table, dude.

RoatanBill , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:37 pm GMT
@Ann Nonny Mouse Gov't shouldn't even attempt to look after its citizens.

It's when gov't becomes a social welfare scheme that things go awry. The average citizen is supposed to be able to stand on his own two feet and compete in a free market. Gov't is supposed to protect that free market from interference. What we have today is gov't suffocating the free market and fostering dependency by the millions of stupid voters they pander after.

Cut off the welfare, 'free stuff' social programs, and get back to basics to change course, but at this stage that's impossible. The solution is to get rid of the entire Fed Gov to make the real cancers in the society evaporate. Get rid of the Pelosi's, Schumer's, Trump's, the Federal Reserve, laws that actually cause discrimination, etc, etc,etc.

Allow the states to become countries and start 50 experiments on how to govern. I predict that the conservative entities will rapidly fare best and the liberal holes will depopulate via voting with their feet. Within 2 years, some areas will be humming along nicely while the rest will have to reexamine their ridiculous policies when infinite funny money is no longer available to create the fantasy world they wanted to live within.

RoatanBill , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT
@Smithsonian_2 "The way to get rid of corruption in high places is to get rid of high places." – Frank Chodorov

As long as there's some asshat 'ruler' there will be corruption and eventual total decay as the US is now experiencing. I, for one, need no 'leader'. Anarchism!

Ayatollah Smith , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:45 pm GMT
Fred, what is it about you? You write an article about the decline of America but the Americans posting comments on your article are talking about circumcision, foreskin donors and 'Willie-tampering'. That has to be your fault, something you are doing. It cannot be attributed to the pathetic imbecility of most Americans even though you point out that the dumbing-down of education will result in the pathetic imbecility of most Americans, so that means . . . Oh, forget it. You win, I lose.

This is an aside but, if I may masquerade for a moment as a pathetically-imbecilic American, I would note that god (or even, God) made an agreement with some of my people that in return for unlimited but undefined blessings (other than a glass of milk and honey which tastes like hell if you want to know the truth) they would circumcise all the males so he could recognise his "children". This 'raises' questions. I would have thought even a minor god (much less a God) could recognise his children without earthly assistance, especially that kind of assistance and, unless the people are all naked, how would he know? Would he say, "Unzip your pants so I can assess your degree of faithfulness?" I once had a girlfriend who was so inclined, but never a god (much less a God).

I know I risk divine retribution for daring to ask, but what the hell would a god have in his mind that he would choose THIS method of identifying his faithful? If I were a god (forget about God here), and wanted a way to recognise my followers, I'm not sure that 'Willie-tampering' would be my ID of choice. A tramp stamp might be okay for the girls, but for boys I think I might suggest something simple and more publicly-entertaining like castration with piano-wire and a runaway horse. But let's not lose the main point which is that any god who chooses to identify his (American and other) faithful by the contents of their pants, is somebody I want to stay far away from. As with Hillary Clinton, and for much the same reasons.

John Q Duped , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:47 pm GMT
If America does fall who is gonna be Israel's henchman? Who's gonna keep stirring the Mid East pot and the world with wars? And who's gonna protect poor Israel from their proclaimed "nemesis" Iran?
I can't believe they would let the US self-destruct (actually cause the US to collapse) because that would leave Israel all alone to defend itself.
Jeff Stryker , says: Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:48 pm GMT
@ASimpleHistory Because middle-Americans don't travel and regard a country on the border of Michigan as a foreign country, many posters have no clue about Canada. I grew up 40 miles from Ontario and know it well.

Natives in Northern Canada are so dangerous that you would not want to walk around a small Northern Ontario town. Going into a bar would be like going into a South Chicago project. Natives in Canada don't have access to firearms or you would have 700 shootings a year. The Canadian bush is actually more dangerous than Canadian cities. They're no different than Aztecs in Phoenix, really.

Canada also has underclasses the US doesn't have. The idea of being mugged by an East Indian in America would seem absurd. In Brampton it is not uncommon.

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Worse yet, Canadian syndicates-like the IRA once was-are linked to political terrorism. Tamil Tigers and Sikh Separatists flooded Canada in the seventies and eighties and used drug dealing to fund their movements back home-which created a horrendous problem with middleman money laundering.

Chinese have assumed control of Vancouver. They've flooded the streets with heroin from China and East Vancouver has the highest rate of AIDS in North America.

Because most Americans don't travel to UK I'll run down the situation there. Pakistanis are ruthless and their gangs as bad as Bloods or Crips. Guns and grenade launchers and M-14's are common in UK and unlike the US, British criminals are more likely to shoot a police officer.

The idea that there are no guns in Canada or UK is a joke. The cities of Toronto and London are full of gun-toting ethnic cartels. Albanians and Russian pimping syndicates are armed to the teeth in UK with firearms which would make a Crip green with envy.

Crime in London and Canada is more multicultural. In the US, blacks and Mexicans rule the streets. No other gang can get into street level crime. In Canada and UK there are dozens of street-level gangs of thugs battling it out for drug sales territory, while the Albanians handle the high-class pimping.

I don't know why, but Pakistanis in America just cannot get into the grooming game. Maybe its police response time. Tahir hangs around a middle school in the US and the cops are there in 30 seconds. Or possibly little white girls in the US are culturally programmed to like the black Alpha pimp-stud and some greasy Pakistani doesn't appeal.

Similarly, gypsies in the US go straight because on the street the blacks would simply rape the begging little gypsy girls downtown to death. Or they would be shot.

Another aspect is prison. US prisons are so appalling that about 30 years ago the classic white offenders-cat burglars, chop shop operators, bank robbers-simply stopped committing crime because of the sexual torture by blacks in prison. Any probation officer will tell you this.

In Australia, the Italian syndicates in Melbourne are actually more violent and brazen than in New Jersey. In the US, the Italians are no longer really into violent crime. They're into white-collar crime. Down Under, some of the Italians still are.

But the bottom-line is that UK blacks are Afro-Caribbean and West African. While it has been noted that many of the Jamaicans are bad and riots have occurred, there is not the density of black crime of the US inner-cities in UK. Its bad, of course, but mostly in London.

Its been theorized that US blacks interactions with macho Irish and Scottish sheepherders in the US South somehow made them more culturally worse than Africans, but this is only a theory.

Similarly, Canada has also always had Afro-Caribbean crime. Haitians and Jamaicans brought pimping and AIDS to Canada.

It was not actually the small number of US blacks who immigrated to Canada who brought the scourges of pimping and crime but actually the Afro-Caribbeans.

Stryker knows the streets of the world. I've been on all of them.

Interestingly, Spain is a nice country. Much is made of its purported Arab influence, but it seemed like France to me. Nothing like the Cholos of Phoenix.

Anyhow, for American posters who are so unworldly that they have not been to Canada that is the rundown.

Larry Romanoff , says: Website Show Comment June 25, 2020 at 12:54 pm GMT
15.neutral says:

"When the Soviet Union ended it could fall back into various nation states, America has no such thing. This makes its collapse incredibly more dangerous . . ."

Yes, although not primarily due to the left-over nuclear missiles. There is something much more fundamental here. You touched on it, but I'm not sure how well you appreciate your insight.

The issue is this: If France dissolves, the French people are still French. If America dissolves, Americans are nothing.

[Jun 26, 2020] 'Black people don't give a damn about statues' BET founder mocks woke whites toppling monuments to assuage racial guilt

So why saying generally right things about toppling of statures this billionaire wants reparations. As any billionaire is a potential criminal who obtained his wealth at the expense of common people what share of his wealth he will contribute?
And slavery in the USA was not the unique exception in the world in XIX century. Arab countries get rid of slavery only in XX century and no completely. It was reinstalled in Libya recently thanks to the USA topping of the regime of Colonel Gaddafi .
Jun 26, 2020 | www.rt.com
It's not going to give a kid whose parents can't afford college, money to go to college. It's not going to close the labor gap and it's not going to take people off welfare or food stamps ."

It's tantamount to rearranging deck chairs on a racial Titanic. It absolutely means nothing.

Also on rt.com If black lives matter, then why are African leaders with a different take on Covid-19 being taunted?

Johnson took a similarly dim view of removing shows like " The Dukes of Hazzard " or films like " Gone with the Wind " from circulation and firing professors for saying " all lives matter " instead of " black lives matter ," suggesting these moves are " an attempt by white Americans to assuage guilt by doing things that make them feel good " and don't help black people at all.

" Black people laugh at white people who do this ," the BET founder said, pointing out that black viewers likely made up a significant portion of the viewing audiences of the canceled shows because " they watch more TV ."

Calling performative apologetics from white celebrities on social media " the silliest expression of white privilege that exists in this country ," Johnson suggested privileged white people instead ask black people what they want and listen to their responses. " Embrace being white and do the right thing, and then you don't have to worry about being sad because you're white! "

" White Americans seem to think that if they just do sort of emotionally or drastic things that black people are going to say 'Oh my god, white people love us because they took down a statue of Stonewall Jackson' ," Johnson said before repurposing a famous quote from the now-verboten Gone with the Wind: " Frankly, black people don't give a damn. "

Also on rt.com Call for $14 trillion in slavery reparations while riots rage in US is extortion, not justice

Johnson, who became America's first black billionaire in 2001, has plenty of ideas about what black people want. He recently called for a $14 trillion reparations package for descendants of slaves, which works out to about $358,000 for every black American, and believes such a massive financial boost – not self-flagellating demonstrations from privileged white people – is what most black people would like to see emerge from the current climate of racial reckoning.

" Now is the time to go big ," he declared earlier this month, floating the massive number as protests and riots raged across the US following the police killing of George Floyd. But while a few of the Democratic presidential candidates had paid lip service to making reparations part of their platforms early in the race, presumptive nominee Joe Biden has not climbed aboard that bandwagon – yet.

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[Jun 26, 2020] Every record has been destroyed, every book rewritten, every statue and street building has been renamed... nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right... by Giulio Meotti

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Antiracism has been transformed... At the time of the great migration, it is no longer a question of welcoming newcomers by integrating them into European civilization, but exposing the faults of this civilization ..."
"... He referred to "self-racism" as "the most dismaying and grotesque pathology of our time". Its capital is London. ..."
"... Vandalism and self-hatred are quickly gaining ground. The epic of great discoveries associated with British Empire has become shameful. The protests are not about slavery. No one in the UK today would cheer that period. It is rather a call for cultural cleansing of all the works contradicting the new mantra: "diversity". ..."
"... "A new form of Taliban was born in the UK today" , wrote Nigel Farage, referring to two giant ancient Buddha statue that were blown up by the Taliban in Afghanistan in 2001. ..."
"... This movement of hating the West -- which has, as all of us do, an imperfect history -- seems to have begun in British universities. In Cambridge, professors of literature asked to replace white authors with representatives from minorities to "decolonize" the curriculum. The student union of London's prestigious School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) asked to remove Plato, Kant, Descartes, Hegel and others from the curriculum, because they were "all white" -- as if the color of our skin should be the sole determinant of our thoughts. In Manchester, students painted over a mural based on Kipling's poem "If". ..."
"... A scholar of colonialism, Nigel Biggar, said that a "climate of fear" has returned to British universities. The University of Liverpool recently agreed to rename a building honoring former prime minister William Gladstone. At Oxford, meanwhile, the statue of Cecil Rhodes, philanthropist and founder of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), risks being the next to go. ..."
Jun 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"Every record has been destroyed , every book rewritten , every statue and street building has been renamed ... nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right ..." - George Orwell, 1984.

Authored by Giulio Meotti via The Gatestone Institute,

"Antiracism is no longer the defense of the equal dignity of people, but an ideology, a vision of the world," said the French philosopher Alain Finkielkraut, son of Holocaust survivors.

"Antiracism has been transformed... At the time of the great migration, it is no longer a question of welcoming newcomers by integrating them into European civilization, but exposing the faults of this civilization".

He referred to "self-racism" as "the most dismaying and grotesque pathology of our time". Its capital is London.

" Topple the racists " consists of a map with 60 statues in 30 British cities. The removal of the statues is being requested to support a movement born in the United States after a white policeman, Derek Chauvin, killed a black man, George Floyd, by kneeling on his neck.

In Bristol, a crowd pushed the statue of philanthropist and slave-owner Edward Colston into the harbor. The act was followed in London by protests vandalizing statues of Winston Churchill, Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln. London's Mayor Sadiq Khan, after removing the monument to Robert Milligan, a Scottish slave trader, from outside the Museum of London Docklands, announced the creation of commission to review tearing down statues that do not reflect "the city's diversity". Two more statues were ordered to be removed from two London hospitals.

Vandalism and self-hatred are quickly gaining ground. The epic of great discoveries associated with British Empire has become shameful. The protests are not about slavery. No one in the UK today would cheer that period. It is rather a call for cultural cleansing of all the works contradicting the new mantra: "diversity".

"A new form of Taliban was born in the UK today" , wrote Nigel Farage, referring to two giant ancient Buddha statue that were blown up by the Taliban in Afghanistan in 2001.

"Unless we get moral leadership quickly our cities won't be worth living in".

The list of statues to be removed includes the names of Oliver Cromwell and Horatio Nelson, two major figures in British history, as well as Nancy Astor, the first woman to be elected to the British Parliament and take a seat in 1919. Also on the list were the names of Sir Francis Drake, Christopher Columbus and Charles Gray (the prime minister whose government supervised the abolition of slavery in 1833).

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, expressing opposition to the removal campaign, said :

" We cannot now try to edit or censor our past. We cannot pretend to have a different history. The statues in our cities and towns were put up by previous generations. They had different perspectives, different understandings of right and wrong. But those statues teach us about our past, with all its faults. To tear them down would be to lie about our history, and impoverish the education of generations to come."

British post-colonial guilt is, however, having repercussions far larger than statues. There is, for instance, still total silence about persecuted Christians, according to a UK bishop leading a government review into their suffering. There is also, notably, a retreat from the world's stage.

"When the West loses confidence in itself, because of excessive or misplaced guilt over colonialism, it turns to isolationism", noted Bruce Gilley, a professor of political science.

"We are afraid that anything we do is colonial. There's plenty of countries willing to step into that global governance gap: China, Iran, Russia, Turkey".

Post-colonial guilt is also suffocating freedom of speech in the UK. The former British "equality watchdog" chief, Trevor Phillips, was suspended from the Labour Party after allegations of "Islamophobia". Phillips' guilt? Being critical of multiculturalism. According to Phillips:

"In my view, squeamishness about addressing diversity and its discontents risks allowing our country to sleepwalk to a catastrophe that will set community against community, endorse sexist aggression, suppress freedom of expression, reverse hard-won civil liberties, and undermine the liberal democracy that has served this country so well for so long."

Phillips also claimed that British politicians and journalists are "terrified" of discussing race, thereby leaving multiculturalism to become a " racket " exploited by some to entrench segregation. A man of Guyanese origin , a Labour Party veteran and an equality commissioner spoke the truth to the multiculturalists.

The activists who campaign to remove the statues want radically to change the look of the British capital. The clash seems to consist of, on one side, violent censors who bully everyone, and on the other side, cowardly, appeasing politicians, who are afraid and bow to the vandals. Monuments are a vital and visible part of a global city; they embody their place in the history of a city, otherwise only bus stops and Burger Kings would remain there. These protestors appear to wish for a revised, sanitized history. If we do not quickly understand that, if we erase our past, as the former Soviet Union tried to do, it will be easier for people to create their vision of our future with no rudder to anchor us or our values. We will be left with nothing in our hands but shattered pieces of our history and culture.

This movement of hating the West -- which has, as all of us do, an imperfect history -- seems to have begun in British universities. In Cambridge, professors of literature asked to replace white authors with representatives from minorities to "decolonize" the curriculum. The student union of London's prestigious School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) asked to remove Plato, Kant, Descartes, Hegel and others from the curriculum, because they were "all white" -- as if the color of our skin should be the sole determinant of our thoughts. In Manchester, students painted over a mural based on Kipling's poem "If".

A scholar of colonialism, Nigel Biggar, said that a "climate of fear" has returned to British universities. The University of Liverpool recently agreed to rename a building honoring former prime minister William Gladstone. At Oxford, meanwhile, the statue of Cecil Rhodes, philanthropist and founder of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), risks being the next to go.

"There is a bit of hypocrisy," Lord Patten, the chancellor of Oxford, commented , "in Oxford taking money for 100 scholars a year, about a fifth of them from Africa, to come to Oxford, and then saying we want to throw the Rhodes statue... in the Thames" .

He said that his own view remained the same as one "expressed by Nelson Mandela at a celebration of the Rhodes Trust in 2003": that despite the "problems associated with Cecil Rhodes in history, if it was alright for Mandela, then I have to say it's pretty well alright for me". But not for the revisionists.

Western history is seemingly being remade to portray all of Western civilization as just one big apartheid . It is as if we should not only pull down statues but also pull down ourselves. But a successful democracy, cannot be built on just erasing the past.

The statue in London of Churchill -- who stood against the Nazis during the Second World War and saved Europe from barbarism -- was covered up by the city authorities during recent protests. Its visual erasure reminds one of the nude statues in Rome covered up by authorities to please Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, or the "disappearance" of portraits in the former Soviet Union, of people whom the Politburo decided had fallen out of favor. There is a falsity in erasing one's history. One may not have a perfect history, but it is one's history, nevertheless. As the historian Victor Davis Hanson wrote , a country "does not have to be perfect to be good." Excising the distasteful parts does not change what happened; they may even be replaced with parts that are more distasteful.

Some London museums already adopted this covering-up and self-censorship a while ago. The Tate Gallery in London banned a work by John Latham that displayed a Koran embedded in glass. The Victoria and Albert Museum showed, then withdrew, a devotional art image of Muhammad. The Saatchi Gallery featured two works of nudes overlaid with Arabic script, which prompted complaints from Muslim visitors; the museum covered the works. The Whitechapel Art Gallery purged an exhibit containing nude dolls.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary just revised the definition of "racism" to include "systemic racism", presumably meaning that the entire society is guilty and unjust.

The censors seem to want to control our mental universe, as in George Orwell's novel, 1984 :

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right".

This process of Western self-abasement began long ago. The Labour Party councils in the UK, for example, began to examine all the statues under their jurisdiction. The mayor of Bristol, Marvin Rees, instead of defending the rule of law, called the violent removal of the statue of Colston an act of " historical poetry ". When vandals started to destroy statues, many applauded. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson called it " politically correct iconoclasm ".

A week before the statues row, people in the UK knelt in the name of George Floyd. It was as if there was a collective claim that Western society as a whole had to repent. It seemed a form of ideological hysteria, not so distant from that of the Inquisition or the Salem Witch Trials: those who knelt were presumably supposed appear as if they were more moral, on the "right side" of justice. There were even British policemen kneeling, as, in the US, Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats knelt to their overlords. Both were acts of irresponsibility and capitulation. A few days later, the British establishment kowtowed to the new Taliban.

What is this macabre ideological game aimed at accomplishing? Not taking down monuments as such, like the statues of Christopher Columbus which have been torn down or beheaded . It is more than that. It is a power-grab to create a cultural revolution, to prevent anyone from saying that cultures are not all the same; to put Europe's past on trial; to instill perennial remorse into consciences, and to spread intellectual terror to advance multiculturalism.

How many people will refuse to go along with this coerced suppression of history? If many kneel to this new totalitarianism, who will have the courage to stand up for Western history and culture?

[Jun 26, 2020] The Media War On Truthful Reporting And Legitimate Opinions - A Documentary

Notable quotes:
"... You can fool someone for a long time, you can fool a lot of people for a short time - but you can't fool a lot of people for a long time. That is, unless those people are willing to live the lie. ..."
"... I think the reason the MSM's propaganda is so effective nowadays (and I'm thinking specifically about the world since the Iraq invasion in 2003) is that, deep down, maybe in the collective inconsciousness level, the working classes from the First World countries know their superior living standards depend on imperial brutality over the rest of the world. ..."
"... The current increased smear campaigns against the so called Russian Bots, Assad Apologists etc., is surely just the first part of of a an attempt to implement very serious censorship and control over the internet to attempt to completely block out any alternative voices. ..."
"... Obivously western intelligence servies, NATO leak stuff to western msm to intimidate and censor political oppostion in every western country. ..."
"... Orwell's great fear was totalitarianism. Either from the left or the right. What we have now is much more subtle. The MSM retains the illusion of freedom and most people go along with it. We may even realize we are being manipulated but the only alternative is posting on sites like MOA. ..."
"... The Skirpal charade was a front for several things but mainly, I think, to turn the focus away from Brexit and to opening the Cold War front again. ..."
"... George Orwell has been a presence throughout this thread. It was unfortunate he was hurried by MI6 to finish the last pages of 'Animal Farm' so it could be translated into Arabic and be used to discredit Communist parties in Western Asia. This always raised the ire of Communist organisations through following decades .This being said he wrote some great text especially for me the revealing 1939 novel - Coming up for A ..."
"... I don't know if wars are really an extension of diplomacy by other means, but they certainly seem to be... an extension of ideology and propaganda. Ideas are very important in preparing and fighting wars; especially today, though, in reality the way we think about our western imperial war-fighting, goes back well over a century, back to the Whiteman's Burden and other imperialist myths. ..."
"... For the last thirty years we've essentially been fighting 'liberal crusades for freedom and democracy.' That, at least, was the 'cover story' the pretext presented to the people. There's an irony here. Just like Islamic State, we've been engaging in 'holy warfare' too! ..."
Apr 21, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various 'party lines'.
George Orwell, Looking back on the Spanish War , Chapter 4

Last week saw an extreme intensifying of the warmongers' campaign against individuals who publicly hold and defend a different view than the powers-that-be want to promote. The campaign has a longer history but recently turned personal. It now endangers the life and livelihood of real people.

In fall 2016 a smear campaign was launched against 200 websites which did not confirm to NATO propaganda. Prominent sites like Naked Capitalism were among them as well as this site:

This website, MoonofAlabama.org , is now listed as "Russian propaganda outlet" by some neoconned, NATO aligned, anonymous " Friendly Neighborhood Propaganda Identification Service " prominently promoted by today's Washington Post . The minions running that censorship list also watch over our "Russian propaganda" Twitter account @MoonofA .

While the ProPornOT campaign was against websites the next and larger attack was a general defaming of specific content.

The neoconservative Alliance For Securing Democracy declared that any doubt of the veracity of U.S. propaganda stories discussed on Twitter was part of a "Russian influence campaign". Their ' dashboard ' shows the most prominent hashtags and themes tweeted and retweeted by some 600 hand-selected but undisclosed accounts. (I have reason to believe that @MoonofA is among them.) The dashboard gave rise to an endless line of main-stream stories faking concern over alleged "Russian influence". The New York Times published several such stories including this recent one :


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Russia did not respond militarily to the Friday strike, but American officials noted a sharp spike in Russian online activity around the time it was launched.

A snapshot on Friday night recorded a 2,000 percent increase in Russian troll activity overall, according to Tyler Q. Houlton, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security. One known Russian bot, #SyriaStrikes, had a 4,443 percent increase in activity while another, #Damsucs, saw a 2,800 percent jump, Mr. Houlton said.

A person on Twitter, or a bot, is tagged by a chosen name led with an @-sign. Anything led with a #-sign is a 'hashtag', a categorizing attribute of a place, text or tweet. Hashtags have nothing to do with any "troll activity". The use of the attribute or hashtag #syriastrike increased dramatically when a U.S. strike on Syria happened. Duh. A lot of people remarked on the strikes and used the hashtag #syriastrike to categorize their remarks. It made it easier for others to find information about the incident.

The hashtag #Damsucs does not exit. How could it have a 2,800% increase? It is obviously a mistyping of #Damascus or someone may have used as a joke. In June 2013 an Associated Press story famously carried the dateline "Damsucs". The city was then under artillery attack from various Takfiri groups. The author likely felt that the situation sucked.


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The spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security Tyler Q. Holton, to which the Times attributes the "bot" nonsense, has a Twitter account under his name and also tweets as @SpoxDHS. Peter Baker, the NYT author, has some 150,000 followers on Twitter and tweets several times per day. Holton and Tyler surely know what @accounts and #hashtags are.

One suspects that Holton used the bizzare statistic of the infamous ' Dashboard ' created by the neoconservative, anti-Russian lobby . The dashboard creators asserted that the use of certain hashtags is a sign of 'Russian bots'. On December 25 the dashboard showed that Russian trolls and bots made extensive use of the hashtag #MerryChristmas to undermine America's moral.


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One of the creators of the dashboard, Clint Watts, has since confessed that it is mere bullshit :

"I'm not convinced on this bot thing," said Watts, the cofounder of a project that is widely cited as the main, if not only, source of information on Russian bots. He also called the narrative "overdone."

As government spokesperson Holton is supposed to spout propaganda that supports the government's policies. But propaganda is ineffective when it does not adhere to basic realities. Holton is bad at his job. Baker, the NYT author, did even worse. He repeated the government's propaganda bullshit without pointing out and explaining that it obviously did not make any sense. He used it to further his own opinionated, false narrative. It took a day for the Times to issue a paritial correction of the fact free tale.

With the situation in Syria developing in favor of the Syrian people, with dubious government claims around the Skripal affair in Salisbury and the recent faked 'chemical attack' in Douma the campaign against dissenting reports and opinions became more and more personal.

Last December the Guardian commissioned a hatchet job against Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett . Beeley and Bartlett extensively reported (vid) from the ground in Syria on the British propaganda racket "White Helmets". The Guardian piece defended the 'heros' of the White Helmets and insinuated that both journalists were Russian paid stooges.

In March the self proclaimed whistle-blower and blowhard Sibel Edmonds of Newsbud launched a lunatic broadside smear attack (vid) against Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett. The Corbett Report debunked (vid) the nonsense. (The debunking received 59,000 views. Edmonds public wanking was seen by less than 23,000 people.)

Some time ago the CIA propaganda outlets Voice of America and Radio Free Europe started a 'fact-checking' website and named it Polygraph.info . (Some satirist or a clueless intern must have come up with that name. No country but the U.S. believes that the unscientific results of polygraph tests have any relation to truthfulness. To any educated non-U.S. citizen the first association with the term 'polygraph' is the term 'fake'.)

On April 4 the Polygraph wrote a smear piece about the Twitter account Ian56 (@Ian56789). Its headline: Disinfo News: Doing the Kremlin's Work: A Fake Twitter Troll Pushes Many Opinions :

Ben Nimmo, the Senior Fellow for Information Defense at the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab, studies the exploits of "Ian56" and similar accounts on Twitter. His recent article in the online publication Medium profiles such fake pro-Kremlin accounts and demonstrates how they operate.
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Nimmo, and several other dimwits quoted in the piece, came to the conclusion that Ian56 is a Kremlin paid troll, not a real person. Next to Ian56 Nimmo 'identified' other 'Russian troll' accounts:

Ben Nimmo @benimmo - 10:50 UTC - 24 Mar 2018

One particularly influential retweeter (judging by the number of accounts which then retweeted it) was @ValLisitsa, which posts in English and Russian. Last year, this account joined the troll-factory #StopMorganLie campaign.

Nimmo's employer, the Atlantic Council, is a lobby of companies who profit from war .

Had Nimmo, a former NATO spokesperson, had some decent education he would have know that @ValLisitsa, aka Valentina Lisitsa , is a famous American-Ukrainian pianist. Yes, she sometimes tweets in Russian language to her many fans in Russia and the Ukraine. Is that now a crime? The videos of her world wide performances on Youtube have more than 170 million views. It is absurd to claim that she is a 'Russian troll' and to insinuate that she is taking Kremlin money to push 'Russian troll' opinions.

Earlier this month Newsweek also targeted the journalists Beeley and Bartlett and smeared a group of people who had traveled to Syria as 'Assad's pawns'.

On April 14 Murdoch's London Times took personal aim at the members of a group of British academics who assembled to scientificly investigate dubious claims against Syria. Their first investigation report though, was about the Skripal incident in Salisbury. The London Times also targeted Bartlett and Beeley. The piece was leading on page one with the headline: "Apologists for Assad working in universities". A page two splash and an editorial complemented the full fledged attack on the livelihood of the scientists.


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Tim Hayward, who initiated the academic group, published a (too) mild response.

On April 18 the NPR station Wabenews smeared the black activists Anoa Changa and Eugene Puryear for appearing on a Russian TV station. It was the begin of an ongoing, well concerted campaign launched with at least seven prominent smear pieces issued on a single day against the opposition to a wider war on Syria.

On April 19 the BBC took aim at Sarah Abdallah , a Twitter account with over 130,000 followers that takes a generally pro Syrian government stand. The piece also attacked Vanessa Beeley and defended the 'White Helmets':

In addition to pictures of herself, Sarah Abdallah tweets constant pro-Russia and pro-Assad messages, with a dollop of retweeting mostly aimed at attacking Barack Obama, other US Democrats and Saudi Arabia.
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The Sarah Abdallah account is, according to a recent study by the online research firm Graphika, one of the most influential social media accounts in the online conversation about Syria, and specifically in pushing misinformation about a 2017 chemical weapons attack and the Syria Civil Defence, whose rescue workers are widely known as the "White Helmets".
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Graphika was commissioned to prepare a report on online chatter by The Syria Campaign , a UK-based advocacy group organisation which campaigns for a democratic future for Syria and supports the White Helmets.

The Syria Campaign Ltd. is a for profit 'regime change' lobby which, like the White Helmets it promotes, is sponsored with millions of British and U.S. taxpayer money.

Brian Whitaker, a former Middle East editor for the Guardian , alleged that Sarah Abdullah has a 'Hizbullah connection'. He assumes that from two terms she used which point to a southern Lebanese heritage. But south Lebanon is by far not solely Hizbullah and Sarah Abdallah certainly does not dress herself like a pious Shia. She is more likely a Maronite or secular whatever. Exposing here as 'Hizbullah' can easily endanger her life. Replying to Whitaker the British politician George Galloway asked:

George Galloway @georgegalloway - 14:50 UTC - Replying to @Brian_Whit

Will you be content when she's dead Brian?
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Will you be content Brian when ISIS cut off her head and eat her heart? You are beneath contempt. Even for a former Guardian man

Whitaker's smear piece was not even researched by himself. He plagiarized it, without naming his source, from Joumana Gebara, a CentCom approved Social Media Advisor to parts of the Syrian 'opposition'. Whitaker is prone to fall for scams like the 'White Helmets'. Back in mid 2011 he promoted the "Gay Girl in Damascus", a scam by a 40 year old U.S. man with dubious financial sources who pretended to be a progressive Syrian woman.

Also on April 19 the Guardian stenographed a British government smear against two other prominent Twitter accounts:

Russia used trolls and bots to unleash disinformation on to social media in the wake of the Salisbury poisoning, according to fresh Whitehall analysis. Government sources said experts had uncovered an increase of up to 4,000% in the spread of propaganda from Russia-based accounts since the attack, – many of which were identifiable as automated bots.

Notice that this idiotic % increase claim, without giving a base number, is similar to the one made in the New York Times piece quoted above. It is likely also based on the lunatic 'dashboard'.

[C]ivil servants identified a sharp increase in the flow of fake news after the Salisbury poisoning, which continued in the runup to the airstrikes on Syria.

One bot, @Ian56789, was sending 100 posts a day during a 12-day period from 7 April, and reached 23 million users, before the account was suspended. It focused on claims that the chemical weapons attack on Douma had been falsified, using the hashtag #falseflag. Another, @Partisangirl, reached 61 million users with 2,300 posts over the same 12-day period.

The prime minister discussed the matter at a security briefing with fellow Commonwealth leaders Malcolm Turnbull, Jacinda Ardern and Justin Trudeau earlier this week. They were briefed by experts from GCHQ and the National Cyber Security Centre about the security situation in the aftermath of the Syrian airstrikes.

The political editor of the Guardian , Heather Steward, admitted that her 'reporting' was a mere copy of government claims:

Heather Stewart @GuardianHeather - 10:38 UTC - 20 Apr 2018

It's not my analysis - as the piece makes quite clear - it's the government's.

The government claim was also picked up by other British outlets like Sky News (vid).


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A day earlier Ian56/@Ian56789 account with 35,000 followers had suddenly been blocked by Twitter. Ben Nimmo was extremely happy about this success. But after many users protested to the Twitter censors the account was revived.

Neither Ian, nor Partisangirl, are 'bots' or have anything to do with Russia. Partisangirl, aka Syria Girl, is the twitter moniker of Maram Susli, a Syrian-Australian scientist specialized in quantum chemistry. She was already interviewed on Australian TV (vid) four years ago and has been back since. She has published videos of herself talking about Syria on Youtube and on Twitter and held presentations on Syria at several international conferences. Her account is marked as 'verified' by Twitter. Any cursory search would have shown that she is a real person.

The claim of bots and the numbers of their tweets the government gave to the Guardian and Sky News are evidently false . With just a few clicks the Guardian and Sky News 'journalists' could have debunked the British government claims. But these stenograhers do not even try and just run with whatever nonsense the government claims. Sky News even manipulated the picture of Partisangirl's Twitter homepage in the video and screenshot above. The original shows Maram Susli speaking about Syrian refugees at a conference in Germany. The picture provides that she is evidently a living person and not a 'bot'. But Sky News did not dare to show that. It would have debunked the government's claim.


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After some negative feed back on social media Sky News contacted the 'Russian bot' Ian and invited him to a live interview (vid). Ian Shilling, a wakeful British pensioner, managed to deliver a few zingers against the government and Sky News . He also published a written response:

I have been campaigning against the Neocons and the Neocon Wars since January 2002, when I first realised Dick Cheney and the PNAC crowd were going to use 9/11 as the pretext to launch a disastrous invasion of Iraq. This has nothing to do with Russia. It has EVERYTHING to do with the massive lies constantly told by the UK & US governments about their illegal Wars of Aggression.
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Brian Whitaker could not hold back. Within the 156,000 tweets Ian wrote over seven years Whitaker found one(!) with a murky theory (not a denial) about the Holocaust. He alleged that Ian believes in 'conspiracy theories'. Whitaker then linked to and discussed one Conspirador Norteño who peddles 'Russian bots' conspiracy theories. Presumably Whitaker did not get the consp-irony of doing such.

On the same day as the other reports the British version of the Huffington Post joined the Times in its earlier smear against British academics, accusing Professor Hayward and Professor Piers Robinson of "whitewashing war crimes". They have done no such thing. Vanessa Beeley was additionally attacked.

Also on the 19th the London Times aimed at another target. Citizen Halo , a well known Finnish grandma, was declared to be a 'Russian troll' based on Ben Nimmo's pseudo-scientific trash, for not believing in the Skripal tale and the faked 'chemical attack' in Syria. The Times doubted her nationality and existence by using quotes around her as a "Finnish activist".

Meanwhile the defense editor of the Times , Deborah Haynes, is stalking Valentina Lisitsa on Twitter. A fresh smear-piece against the pianist is surely in the works.

The obviously organized campaign against critical thinking in Britain extended beyond the Atlantic. While the BBC , Guardian, HuffPo, Times and Sky News published smear pieces depicting dissenting people as 'Russian bots', the Intercept pushed a piece by Mehdi Hasan bashing an amorphous 'left' for rejecting a U.S. war on Syria: Dear Bashar al-Assad Apologists: Your Hero Is a War Criminal Even If He Didn't Gas Syrians .

Mehdi Hasan is of course eminently qualified to write such a piece. Until recently he worked for Al Jazeerah , the media outlet of the Wahhabi dictatorship of Qatar which supports the Qatari sponsored al-Qaeda in its war against Syria. The Mehdi Hasan's piece repeats every false and debunked claim that has been raised against the Syrian government as evidence for the Syrian president's viciousness. Naturally many of the links he provides point back to Al Jazeerah's propaganda. A few years ago Mehdi Hasan tried to get a job with the conservative British tabloid Daily Mail . The Mail did not want him. During a later TV discussion Hasan slammed the Daily Mail for its reporting and conservative editorial position. The paper responded by publishing his old job application. In it Mehdi Hasan emphasized his own conservative believes:

I am also attracted by the Mail's social conservatism on issues like marriage, the family, abortion and teenage pregnancies.

A conservative war-on-Syria promoter is bashing an anonymous 'left' which he falsely accuses of supporting Assad when it takes a stand against imperial wars. Is that a 'progressive' Muslim Brotherhood position? (Added: Stephen Gowans and Kurt Nimmo respond to Hasan's screed.)

On the same day Sonali Kolhatkar at Truthdig , as pseudo-progressive as the Intercept , published a quite similar piece: Why Are Some on the Left Falling for Fake News on Syria? . She bashes the 'left' - without citing any example - for not falling for the recent scam of the 'chemical attack' in Douma and for distrusting the U.S./UK government paid White Helmets. The comments against the piece are lively.

Those working in the media are up in arms over alleged fake news and they lament the loss of paying readership. But they have only themselves to blame. They are the biggest creators of fake news and provider of government falsehood. Their attacks on critical readers and commentators are despicable.

Until two years ago Hala Jabar was foreign correspondent in the Middle East for the Sunday Times . After fourteen years with the paper and winning six awards for her work she was 'made redundant' for her objective reporting on Syria. She remarks on the recent media push against truth about Syria and the very personal attacks against non-conformist opinions:

Hala Jaber @HalaJaber - 18:36 UTC - 19 Apr 2018

In my entire career, spanning more than three decades of professional journalism, I have never seen MSM resolve to such ugly smear campaigns & hit pieces against those questioning mainstream narratives, with a different view point, as I have seen on Syria, recently.

.2/ This is a dangerous manoeuvre , a witch hunt in fact, aimed not only at character assassination, but at attempting to silence those who think differently or even sway from mainstream & state narrative.

.3/ It would have been more productive, to actually question the reason why more & more people are indeed turning to alternative voices for information & news, than to dish out ad hominem smears aimed at intimidating by labelling alternative voices as conspirators or apologists.

.4/ The journalists, activists, professors & citizens under attack are presenting an alternative view point. Surely, people are entitled to hear those and are intelligent enough to make their own judgments.

.5/ Or is there an assumption, (patronizing, if so), that the tens of thousands of people collectively following these alternative voices are too dumb & unintelligent to reach their own conclusions by sifting through the mass information being dished at them daily from all sides?

.6/ Like it or hate it, agree or disagree with them, the bottom line is that the people under attack do present an alternative view point. Least we forget, no one has a monopoly on truth. Are all those currently launching this witch hunt suggesting they do?

The governments and media would like to handle the war on Syria like they handled the war in Spain. They want reports without "any relation to the facts". The media want to "retail the lies" and eager propagandists want to "build emotional superstructures over events that never happened."

The new communication networks allow everyone to follow the war on Syria as diligently as George Orwell followed the war in Spain in which he took part. We no longer have to travel to see the differences of what really happens and what gets reported in the main stream press. We can debunk false government claims with freely available knowledge.

The governments, media and their stenographers would love to go back to the old times when they were not plagued by reports and tweets from Eva, Vanessa, Ian, Maram and Sarah or by blogposts like this one. The vicious campaign against any dissenting report or opinion is a sorry attempt to go back in time and to again gain the monopoly on 'truth'.

It is on us to not let them succeed.

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bevin , Apr 21 2018 23:23 utc | 1

next page " Excellent.
The good news about both The Intercept and Truthdig pieces is that the comments quickly showed that readers knew what the publishers were up to. The Intercept seemed to have removed Hasan's obscene act of prostitution within a day.

The reality is that we simply have to expect the imperialists, now reduced to propaganda and domestic repression, to act in this way: there is no point in attempting to shame them and they never did believe in journalistic principles or standards or ethics. They are the scum who serve a cannibalistic system for good wages and a comfortable life style- that is what the 'middle class' always did do and always will.

Kaiama , Apr 21 2018 23:56 utc | 2
No longer is it possible to control TV, Radio and printed newspapers and use them to set the message. There are now an almost infinite set of channels including youtube, twitter, blogs, podcasts,streamed radio... It's like there is a public bitcoin/bitnewsledger where new information only gets written into the ledger if it is authenicated by sufficient endorsements.

In the past, a lie could travel around the world before the truth got its shoes on (Mark Twain I believe) but the truth is catching up. We are in the midst of the great changeover where older people still rely on traditional information channels yet younger internet enabled peoplecan leverage the new channels more effectively to educate themselves.

Cycloben , Apr 22 2018 0:01 utc | 3
Western propagandists are freaking out because nobody believes their lies anymore. The more they freak out, the more we know they have lost the narrative.

I just fear for the safety of these independent journalists. It is not beneath the deep state to assassinate their enemies. These people need to be very careful.

Michael Murry , Apr 22 2018 0:47 utc | 11
Orwell would have understood and loved this:
The 2018 Pulitzer Prize winner in National Reporting – Staffs of The New York Times and The Washington Post

For deeply sourced, relentlessly reported coverage in the public interest that dramatically furthered the nation's understanding of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and its connections to the Trump campaign, the President-elect's transition team and his eventual administration. (The New York Times entry, submitted in this category, was moved into contention by the Board and then jointly awarded the Prize.)

The hysterical, side-splitting laughter over this chicken-choking, circle-jerking drivel will echo in eternity. Galactic stupidity simply doesn't get any more cosmic, except perhaps awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Henry Kissinger and Barack Obama.

C I eh? , Apr 22 2018 1:04 utc | 12
This is a fight between Deep States of the Rothschild-UK 'Octopus,' US-centric Rockefeller-Kochs, Russian (itself split between competing and intertwined Anglo-American clans/Eurasianists vs Altanticists) and China (also divided between sovereignty oriented Shanghai and Rothschild affiliated Hong Kong which was founded upon the opium trade in cooperation with the UK-Octopus).

The main point of contention is whether we have a hard or soft landing as the New World Order is born, with the UK-Octopus needing to instigate an epic crisis so as to bury countless trillions of worthless derivatives it sits upon, specifically seeking to collapse the USD as a global fiat and use the ensiung chaos to assist the Chinese as they establish an unasailable Yuan fiat. A war with Russia will bring the US-centric Deep State to it's knees and so this forms the basis of the not-so secret alliance between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, while China attempts to remain neutral since Xi prefers a smooth transition since the US-centric group may well launch a nuclear false flag attack on the Korean peninsula, thus irradiating the region and dooming the potential for a Chinese dominated century, should the interests of yhis group be ignored.

All gloves are off and the dispostions of various players are suddenly crystal clear after the firing of Octopus agent Tillerson by Trump via twitter led immediately to the launching of operation 'Novichok,' and was followed up with an attempted series of false flags in East Ghouta which were planned so as to bring the US and Russia to war.

Other important players include the US military (itself divided between Octopus NATO and US-centric Pentagon), the CIA, which is always on all sides of any conflict but was until recently headed by Koch protege Mike Pompeo, as well as smaller Arab, Persian and Turkish Deep States all jockeying for advantage and position. Even the Vatican is included and said to be divided between Polish Cardinals on one side, with German, Italian and many Spanish speaking Cardinals as opponents. There are other Deep States as well and in every instance they are divided between one of the two main parties and themselves to one or another degree.

Media and social control is mainly the preserve of the UK Octopus, so as all of us have understood for some time, anything included within it, from the NYTimes to most of Hollywood, is completely worthless. Alternative media was created as an alternative to Octopus media, while Trump takes to twitter so as to bypass their control.

I feel like a US voter forced to choose between Republicans and Democrats, but with the promised 'Blue Wave' coming in November when Congressional elections are due, certain to be impeached Donald Trump and his US-centric backers have a very short time frame in which to change the score.

S , Apr 22 2018 1:08 utc | 13
CNN also published a long smear piece against YouTubers, basically advocating for depriving them of ad income: http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/19/technology/youtube-ads-extreme-content-investigation/index.html . Among other things, it had this to say about a U.S. comedian and political commentator Jimmy Dore:
Ads also appeared on The Jimmy Dore Show channel, a far-left YouTube channel that peddles conspiracy theories, such as the idea that Syrian chemical weapons attacks are hoaxes.

Syria is really the unifying theme in all these attacks.

Diana , Apr 22 2018 1:21 utc | 15
I congratulate Bernhard on yet another excellent piece of investigative journalism. My comment is not intended to criticise or take away from it, but only to point out that Orwell's quote was taken out of context, in the sense that although he remarks on partisan propaganda, he says that it is unimportant, since "the broad picture of the war which the Spanish Government presented to the world was not untruthful. The main issues were what it said they were." On the other hand, the lies of the pro-NATO press are important because unlike the partisan lies told by leftist parties during the Spanish Civil War, today's NATO lies are the equivalent of the official fascist propaganda of that time: they distort and hide the main issues. Here is the full quote from the link that B has diligently provided:

I remember saying once to Arthur Koestler, 'History stopped in 1936', at which he nodded in immediate understanding. We were both thinking of totalitarianism in general, but more particularly of the Spanish civil war. Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various 'party lines'. Yet in a way, horrible as all this was, it was unimportant. It concerned secondary issues -- namely, the struggle for power between the Comintern and the Spanish left-wing parties, and the efforts of the Russian Government to prevent revolution in Spain. But the broad picture of the war which the Spanish Government presented to the world was not untruthful. The main issues were what it said they were. But as for the Fascists and their backers, how could they come even as near to the truth as that? How could they possibly mention their real aims? Their version of the war was pure fantasy, and in the circumstances it could not have been otherwise.

Tyronius , Apr 22 2018 1:48 utc | 16
As a given group loses its grip on power, it tends to employ ever more extreme tactics. This explains the recent behavior of players like the US government, the UK government, the American mainstream media and various think tanks. What other extreme behavior should we expect from such a cabal? After all, they've already shown contempt for conditionally protected freedoms- all of them- and a willingness to manufacture any narrative they want in order to further their aims of conquest and profiteering. This whole mess could spiral out of control in countless ways with terrifying consequences.
dh , Apr 22 2018 1:49 utc | 17
@15 Yes but I'm not sure how relevant Orwell's quote is to today. Do we even have a 'left-wing' anymore? Or a Comintern for that matter? Even fascism wears a smiley face. Seems to me that what we have is a tightly controlled MSM. That control may be slipping but we have yet to see a replacement.
psychohistorian , Apr 22 2018 2:01 utc | 18
Those of us at MoA who are regulars may feel a certain level of complacency based on the level of discourse here but I assure you that most Americans are still very much zombie followers of whatever the TV and other media tell them. I believe that there is a strong possibility that MoA and like sites will become the focus of paid narrative pushers and if that is not successful there are other ways to make b and our lives difficult.

If b is ever knocked offline for some reason and needs help I encourage him to email his readers with potential strategies to show/provide support. Thanks again and again for your web site b.

Jackrabbit , Apr 22 2018 2:05 utc | 19
The first casualty of war is the truth. Many Westerners would recognize this phrase but many of them don't understand that there -IS- a war (the new Cold War). The longstanding law that prevented government propaganda in the US was revoked several years ago. U.S Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to Americans
Ken , Apr 22 2018 2:07 utc | 20
This type of tyranny has been going on forever in the US. Take A. Lincoln. More than 14,000 civilians were arrested under martial law during the war throughout the Union. Abraham Lincoln did so because they expressed views critical of Lincoln or his war. It's the same-o. Different faces same crap.
frances , Apr 22 2018 2:14 utc | 22
b- I am sorry to see their attacks on you, if things do go sideways please contact me if I can be of help in any way.
Do you know what has happened to Tucker Carlson, he has been such a strong voice for truth that I am concerned for him.
Stay strong and thank you for all you do in support of the truth.
Clueless Joe , Apr 22 2018 2:23 utc | 23
Sure, there are more people that see the lies and bullshit for what they are. Still, seeing it is not enough. What really matters now is to fully wipe out the mainstream media, to make it completely extinct, and therefore seeing they're full of shit is only the prerequisite to pondering how to actually bankrupt and destroy them. That's what everyone who's not fully on board with the Western regimes' and bankers' propaganda should be thinking about. How to convince people not only to stop buying their lies, but to stop buying them at all, how to cut down the vast majority of their readership/viewers to the point they don't matter anymore.
Tom , Apr 22 2018 2:26 utc | 24
Thank you b. This a very important subject. It wouldn't surprise me if a false flag happened that would be aimed at censuring all alternative news. This might be centered around a decoupling of east from west, perhaps when the current financial crisis explodes. Oh, has anyone heard from Tucker Carlson lately?
VK , Apr 22 2018 3:06 utc | 25
You can fool someone for a long time, you can fool a lot of people for a short time - but you can't fool a lot of people for a long time. That is, unless those people are willing to live the lie.

I think the reason the MSM's propaganda is so effective nowadays (and I'm thinking specifically about the world since the Iraq invasion in 2003) is that, deep down, maybe in the collective inconsciousness level, the working classes from the First World countries know their superior living standards depend on imperial brutality over the rest of the world. That's why, for example, the USG and Downing Street haven't lost significant credibility domestically after Iraq and after Libya. This is a dark social pact: people live the lies only to sleep well at night and claim plausible deniability after; they only wish it to be over quickly and at the least human cost from their side (every coffin that comes back to their community from the Middle East is a crack in the illusion). They believe in Russiagate because, deep down, they don't want to believe they were capable of electing someone like Trump and, mainly, because they know their economies are failing, and the only solution is to invade other countries/prop up the war industry.

Brian , Apr 22 2018 3:16 utc | 26
Smearing people for appearing on RT! Americans who prattle on about freedom and democracy are pressuring other not to do this or that which is to inhibit their freedom. Don't they know it makes them look like dictators without portfolio?
Fernando Arauxo , Apr 22 2018 3:34 utc | 27
The greatest martyr IMHO is Lisa Howard. If she were alive today she would have thrived on the Alt-media circuit. She is our patron saint.
Rob , Apr 22 2018 4:35 utc | 28
Great article, b. I am a relative newcomer to MoA, having found it through Caitlin Johnstone (Rogue Journalist), but in a short time, I have come to rely heavily on it for "hidden" news and incisive analysis. Yes, independent news outlets are vital sources of truth, but their reach is still tiny compared to that of the Empire and its toads in the media. The well organized smear campaign against those who refuse to bow down is a frightening development indeed.
karlof1 , Apr 22 2018 4:45 utc | 29
Thanks b for your outstanding dissecting! The Information War is complex yet still remains simple--all that's required is a critically thinking approach for any personally unconfirmed sources and the data presented followed by the willingness to ask questions, no matter how uncomfortable. Such a disciplined mind was once the paramount goal for those seeking wisdom, but such pursuits are deemed passé, unrequired in the Digital Age. But Big Lie Media's been working its evil for decades despite many calling out the lies. Funny how the two big former communist nations are now more credible than the West and expressly seek honest and open--Win-Win--relationships based on trust and equality. The Moral Table at play during Cold War 1 is flipped with the Outlaw US Empire being the Evil Empire. And the Evil Empire can't stand its own nakedness and its oozing social sores.

The liar is often agitated and nervous whereas one with the facts rests easy and remains calm. In the run up to their summit, note how Trump is already agitated and nervous, already prefacing his lies to come, whereas Kim is easy and calm, setting the table. Shrillness and hysteria are the similar signs provided by media liars and is almost always fact-free, supposed "sources" anonymous.

Grieved , Apr 22 2018 5:02 utc | 30
A magisterial piece of journalism, b. Congratulations, and thank you.

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Spain. Orwell. Fascism.

I was born decades after the Spanish Civil War, and to be very honest I never knew much about it, nor have ever learned since. But Guernica I knew about, even as a young teenager in school. The culture was shocked into remembering forever that there was a lie involved with Guernica. That's all I ever really knew, was that Spain was a lie, underneath which a massacre lay.

They say it was the humanitarian and artistic type of people who kept the truth of Spain alive against the propaganda of the fascists. I don't know. I believe as I said the other day that propaganda only works to crowd out the truth, so that people are not exposed to the truth. But propaganda doesn't work in a battle against the truth, when people are exposed to both sides of the story.

If you were running a scam based on fake news, and one day you had to make allegations using this very term, and play your "fake news" card on the table in a round of betting that was merely one round in a long game - if you did this, you'd be a bad card player, or one driven to the corner and getting extremely close to leaving the table.

If your playing partner suddenly had to show the "false flag" card on the surface of the table for the whole game to see - yet another secret hole card exposed and now worthless forever - you could well think your game was finished. And it is - barring a few nasty tricks...which will be recorded and placed into the game as IOU's.

Don't anybody be part of that collateral damage - be well. And instead, let's collect on those IOU's. The game is almost over. Many people will appear to say that the players cannot be beat. But they are with the losers. We are the players.

Merlin2 , Apr 22 2018 5:32 utc | 32
psychohistorian @17

I wholeheartedly second your suggestion. I think the battle against the truth by the deep States everywhere has only begun. They will not stop at smearing individual posters or sites.

I do think we all need to start becoming more aware of alternatives, to YouTube (how's DTube?), Twitter (gab?), Facebook, Google (several alternatives) etc. But that will not be enough because I fear that in time the IP providers will come under pressure too - in all the western countries, especially. And the domain providers 9we all know them), followed by blog platforms such as WorldPress. I am not saying it's easy to curtail all of those, but they will try, as sure as the sun sets in the West.

Of course, the biggest attacks will be mounted against anonymous commenters and posters. That's already in the works at several outlets. The idea is of course that by stripping off anonimity people will self-censor for fear of repercussions to their real life selves.

There are people working on alternative platforms of all sorts. I am somewhat hopeful about user owned sites though these efforts are nascent. I hope commenters here will share what they know of alternatives, even knowing this won't be an easy battle. After all, Twitter owes its popularity to well, its popularity. Same with Facebook or Instagram or youTube. Therein lies the rub - it won't be easy to wean users from these platforms as many start-ups found out. That however should not mean that we shouldn't try. More and more Twitter users for example are cross-posting on gab, and several youTubers started uploading also to Dtube. neither site is ideal, I know. But neither was Twitter when it started.

Antares , Apr 22 2018 5:50 utc | 33
The real aim of propaganda is to persuade the politicians and not the public. One man in their middle wants to start a war and the media make sure that his or her fellow politicians will hear no other story and make support the only possibility. That's why people like us have to be vilified, so that all these politicians can invent an excuse for themselves and turn their head away. What we think really doesn't matter because we are not the ones in control. They only have to convince the Colin Powells and Frank Timmermans's.
Al-Pol , Apr 22 2018 5:52 utc | 34
The current increased smear campaigns against the so called Russian Bots, Assad Apologists etc., is surely just the first part of of a an attempt to implement very serious censorship and control over the internet to attempt to completely block out any alternative voices.

Amber Rudd the UK Home Secretary has been banging on about Russian cyber attcks for the past couple of months. Whilst based on the history of UK Government IT projects I couldn't expect the UK alone to be capable of implementing any meaningful censorship scheme (they have a track record of producing so many multi-billion pound national IT project disasters) but with the coordinated help of the US and others they might just be able to put up enough censorship barriers to be able to get back to their original plans (removing Assad and whatever else they have in mind). False-flag chemical attacks haven't quite worked out to plan, but add in a false-flag cyber attack that apparently disables some of the UK (and/or US/EU) vital services and that should be enough for them to convince the plebs and sufficient MP's that it has become absolutely necessary to block Russain and other media and internet sites and force the owners of many social media channels to disable long lists of people with alternative views.

Dave , Apr 22 2018 6:32 utc | 36
Prop or Not is NOT a 'friendly neighbourhood' anything. It was exposed a while ago as being a joint state propaganda project between the CIA and West Ukraine, with the goal of spreading anti-Russia disinformation, and employing the collusion of some no-integrity US propaganda rags like The Daily Beast.

http://yournewswire.com/propornot-cia-ukrainian-operation/
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/28/unpacking-the-shadowy-outfit-behind-2017s-biggest-fake-news-story/

bobzibub , Apr 22 2018 7:14 utc | 37
Many thanks b for the hard work. This is what we wish our traditional media would invest the time and publish.

Instead, what we get is something like: Terry Glavin: Here's why some people choose not to believe in Assad's atrocities which seems to be a great example of the Dunning Kruger effect. Note the vitriol!

My question is their motivation and timing. Why does the rhetoric seem to increase after the latest attack? Why care if 10% of the population doesn't follow their narrative now? Are they preparing for a new round of kinetic action? Or do they simply believe their management of the narrative needs more investment?

ralphieboy , Apr 22 2018 9:38 utc | 41
If people are going to rely on social media feeds for anything other than information on what their friends and family are up to, then they are opening themselves up to being manipulated easily and with a minimum of actual effort.

You no longer need to own a newspaper or a broadcast network to do so.

JohnnyRVF , Apr 22 2018 11:23 utc | 49
Ultimately people with a concience and some integrity will realize that something is awry. I'm no spring chicken and have been on the net for nearly 20 years. There are more ' old ' people surfing the net than initially may be apparent. As life passes by people become much more attuned to bullsh*t. T. May's husband is on the board of a large British Armaments company. No doubt her ministers are all in on many scams. She is a very mediocre character, a fool as her time as home secretary demonstrated and was only voted in place so as to do the bidding of others. And in my opinion, when I say others I mean she is the western harlot who jumps when anyone pulls her string. They say that if you tell a lie often enough people believe it to be the truth. Not necessarily. There are so many holes in the Skripal and Syrian stories that only someone who doesn't want to have their view challenged will believe them. The stories are falling apart and as they do, so does the credibility and trust of the western MSM and Politik. The reason the Germans and others refused to join in, is I suspect, they realize that in part, because once that is lost, it takes a great deal more to recover it. The Skripal case and the latest Syrian faked gas attack is the start of the end for T. May and her govt.
fairleft , Apr 22 2018 11:25 utc | 50
Good comments, especially psychohistorian about being prepared to jump to alternative platforms ... Perhaps Russian ones?

What I was referencing in comment 5 is this relatively new desire by the 'powers that be' for purity, for absolutely no one from 'our side' dissenting against the mainstream (and completely bonkers in its anti-Russian extremism) narrative. This is not like the pre-digital age, when small-circulation real leftist publications were not subject to mainstream and official government extermination campaigns. And I don't think this is simply because of digital age reach, because the readership for the real alternative media's left/anti-imperial perspective doesn't engage enough people to be meaningful in terms of power and elections. At least in the US; less certain about elsewhere.

There's something angry, extreme, and extremely insecure about the psychology of the Western ruling class right now. My bet is that because of that insecurity they won't be so dangerous to Russia/China in the years to come, but instead the anger will be directed at internal left/anti-militarist dissenters. For some reason our reality bugs the sh!t out of them despite our small numbers.

deschutes , Apr 22 2018 11:33 utc | 51
Until recently I used to read articles at both The Intercept and at Truthdig, but have since realized both of these 'news' outlets actively censor posts that are too accurate, too insightful of what the US government and MSM are doing in Syria and how they are manipulating public opinion with the White Helmets, staged false gas attacks, etc. I don't trust Pierre Omidyar, the philanthropist behind The Intercept, he has questionable political alliances. I have had many of my posts at both Truthdig and The Intercept censored even though they were entirely within comment rules. The Intercept has a lot of really BAD journalists posting crap there, like this ass clown Mehdi Hasan. Even Glenn Greenwald, a multi millionaire, is suspect. Both of these websites are psuedo-left and should not be trusted!
From the resistance trench with love , Apr 22 2018 11:40 utc | 52
....attacks on critical readers and commentators are despicable..

Indeed, but "the one free of sin to throw the first stone" ....

From my experience at several supposed "alternative media", most of them somehow pro-Russian in the sense that they do not promote the sick warmongerism coming from the US and UK stablishments against Russia and its allies in Syria and against Syria herself, every site has its biases and slandering attacks by the owners of the blogs or by the "community" os sycophants residing there are everyday bread for any newcomer who could express a bit of dissent against the general editorial view.
I mayself have been obliged to change my nickname several times already to avoid attacks or banning/censorship, when my position about Syrai and Russia does not differ almost in the least with that of the people mentioned above who are being object of smearing campaign by the MSM....and this has happened to me in the supposed pro-Russian "alt-media"....

Thus, I would recommend to apply a bit of self-criticism and reflect about how anyone of us are probably contributing to the same effort of the bullies mentioned above against mainly common citizens who only try to commit themselves to spread some of the truth they are finding online through research and intensive reading, and try to offer an alternative point of view or simply debunk the usual nonsense especially against certain ideologies, mostly spreaded by US commenters.....

timbers , Apr 22 2018 11:50 utc | 53
I noticed the part about Ian Shillilng being accused of denying the Holocaust or implying it was a govt conspiracy.

I find that interesting, because a co-worker asked me out to the blue "Do you even believe the Holocaust happened?" It's a strange question with no relation to Russiagate, yet pops up a lot so it clearly has an agenda. The question made no sense but I did recognized it as a familiar attack by the warmongers. My response was to to respond to such a ridiculous, dishonest question and I ignored it.

He went to ask if I was "stupid" for not seeing that Mueller's indictments over lying to the FBI and tax evasion/money laundering in Ukraine are NOT are not same thing as proving Russia meddled to deny Hillary her Presidency.

Don Wiscacho , Apr 22 2018 12:07 utc | 54
Thanks for the article b.
As painful as it is to watch the increasing attempts at censoring non-msm voices, we can take solace in the fact that, like a cornered rat, the establishment has no other option left but an all-out, full-retard attack on anyone not toeing the line. While the damage they are doing is real, this should be balanced with the fact that this attack comes out of weakness and not strength: they are the ones "losing", and knowledge of that reality makes them increasingly unhinged.
partisan , Apr 22 2018 12:13 utc | 55
https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/966178001858826241

LOL

At first I thought this is some kind of joke. Than I watched few times, I still believe CNN guy is in some kind of mission here, let's say to distract its viewers from existential matters that grips ordinary people in the US. His insistence on the "Russians" is illogical at first...this woman appear to be serious but when it comes to CNN everything is set-up, not just everyone can come to CNN, period. No facts involved the conversation is about NOTHING, that is the US national narrative being imposed by the ruling class trough various media. Just like "attack" on Syria and Syria's gas attack. There were none, there were no cruise missile fired, there were no downed ones! CNN's role is also to entertain its audience as well, everything but not talk about social and economic issues. In other words to indoctrinate - shift attention, not to ask unpleasant questions.

fast freddy , Apr 22 2018 13:50 utc | 61
The NYT and NPR are warmonger institutions. It is sad that ppl who consider themselves to be liberals, democrats, blue team (anti-war?- that's a stretch!) embrace these institutions as purveyors of truth or even real news.

Has the NYT ever seen a war it didn't support?

Anonymous2 , Apr 22 2018 14:00 utc | 62
Great job b,

Obivously western intelligence servies, NATO leak stuff to western msm to intimidate and censor political oppostion in every western country.

Ben Nimmo is one of the most maniac propaganda dogs Nato/Neocons out there, he is a propaganda agent for NATO.

Levcek , Apr 22 2018 14:06 utc | 63
@ Diana 15

I don't feel that the quote is out of context. Yes, you show that Orwell clearly didn't consider it a big deal at that time, but what is happening now is that what he describes is omnipresent, the main stream of information we get, there is nothing else if you don't search for alternatives. It is beyond doubt that Orwell, in the present context, would never have added what he added in that book.
So in that light I feel the quote is extremely relevant and a good start of the article.

I want to express my thanks for this site and am really glad I was pointed towards MoA by other sources of real information.

Anonymous2 , Apr 22 2018 14:14 utc | 64
Meanwhile, the same western media give free pass to liberal warcriminals like Macron's France that just today call for permanent illegal occupation of Syria - after illegally bombing it.

France's Macron Urges US, Allies to Stay in Syria Even After Daesh Defeat
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804221063800226-macron-daesh-us-france-syria/

But no, it is people like us who call out this BS that gets silenced and harassed by the same ignorant western media/"journalists" along with the western deep state spy networks!

Eric , Apr 22 2018 14:28 utc | 66
What an excellent source of information the MoA site offers those of us who are seeking the truth and living in an Empire full of lies.Over the past few months, I have perused this site regularly and always find it very helpful in gaining a better and more concise understanding of
what is really going on in our world.

I am also astounded at how helpful it is for me to read the comments of so many who are regulars here.
The courtesy and level of intellectual dialog that goes on here in the comments section is a rare thing indeed! We all must fight for truth for the sake of our families and loved ones.

Levcek , Apr 22 2018 14:45 utc | 68
@ somebody | Apr 22, 2018 7:01:49 AM | 46

"Fake" and "Genuine" are used to describe the video with the water being poured over people. Fisk calls them genuine because the video was taped in the place where it pretends to be, not in a film set or a location where nothing was going on. It was filmed in the real hospital with real doctors, nurses and victims.
The video therefore is real (not staged), but the claim that people are suffering from gas wounds is false.

You can thus also say that the video is fake: it is said to show victims of a gas attack, while the doctor says they were suffering from suffocation, and only when someone shouted "gas", did people start hosing each other down (which as someone posted in another article, would have only made things worse if they had chlorine on them). As evidence of a gas attack, the video is fake.

As long as a person is not claiming that the video shows victims of a real gas attack aftermath, we're all on the same side I guess.

Anonymous2 , Apr 22 2018 14:51 utc | 70
The response is of course to more eagerly call out the neocons propangada, western media propaganda and so forth, get a twitter account, get a blog, lets multiply this movement, because these people will of course not stop at destroying peoples lives in the newspapers, they will call for censorship, registrations and sooner or later jail for these views.
dh , Apr 22 2018 14:54 utc | 71
Orwell's great fear was totalitarianism. Either from the left or the right. What we have now is much more subtle. The MSM retains the illusion of freedom and most people go along with it. We may even realize we are being manipulated but the only alternative is posting on sites like MOA.
Bevin Kacon , Apr 22 2018 15:49 utc | 76
@ 75

The UK has no credibility left now. May's farcical handling of the Brexit negs has exposed her as little more than a Tory mouthpiece, parroting party bon mots whilst having no clue where she is heading. And I suspect her civil servants haven't, either!

The Skirpal charade was a front for several things but mainly, I think, to turn the focus away from Brexit and to opening the Cold War front again. But what is alarming was her open support for attacks on Syria. It's been known for some time that the UK has special forces operating in Syria covertly; May's tub-thumping pretty much clarified that the Uk is as determined as Washington and that Rothschild puppet Macron to force a regime change in Syria.

You said she must go. I said the same thing last September after the fall-out from the June election and other foot-in-mouth incidents: she'd be gone before year end. How wrong I was. She has figures in the background protecting her.

majobrs , Apr 22 2018 19:10 utc | 78
Crushing dissent goes completely against 'liberal values' which is about the only high ground left for the humanitarian regime changers a.k.a the Franquistas. So that is not going to happen. On the other hand, social media is the easiest place to use covert operatives, even MSM has other sponsors and actors, social media can be directly controlled by governments , and the 'intelligence community'. So they are just using the net for what they set it up for.
Propaganda for domestic consumption in the USA, isn't really meant to convince as much as to scare people into submission. People don't obey Big Brother because they like him or believe him, but because they cannot talk back to him and are scared of him. Media Scare tactics work less if people can talk back, hear their own voice, not just Big Brother from every loudspeaker.

Martin Luther (not King) said that "A lie is like a snowball: the further you roll it the bigger it becomes." The snowball is melting because there is shift in the narrative given what is happening on the ground in Syria. I find it fascinating that as it melts down layer by layer, the first trojan horse outfits to implode are left humanitarian ones like the Intercept, Newsbud, Democracy Now. The right wing ones like Fox, Young Turks, just concentrate on dumbing down the conversation to reduce reality to bombastic and misleading 'political' points. This is a another way to control the conversation, to scare people into thinking that facts or not facts but partisan political 'opinions'. Look at how Jimmy Dore's in the interview mentioned by B with Carla Ortiz, is trying to dumb down the conversation and keeps feigning ignorance. Thankfully she blows him out of the water. Good job Carla!
The snowball is big and melting slowly. Who's next?

Grieved , Apr 23 2018 1:47 utc | 84
@b

Vesti has a great 10-minute clip dated yesterday from a Russian talk show with Margarita Simonyan of RT doing much of the talking. What she says is really encouraging about how she's trying to talk, not to power (which already knows the real truth that it's obscuring) but to common people, because there are those among the common people who do speak up and who really do shape public opinion - not governments.

She cited Roger Waters as an example, who was speaking at a concert and telling the truth about the White Helmets. She said, someone has to read in order to speak. And someone has to write so someone can read. And that's what RT is doing, and that's how it works. And it is working.

The panel agreed that the truth from Tony Blair finally came out 15 years later. So we have only to persist and stay safe for 15 years and we win:
The Tony Blair Rule: The Truth Takes 15 Years to Come Out, Skripal Countdown Starts Now - Simonyan

David Park , Apr 23 2018 2:16 utc | 87
Thanks for introducing us to Valentina Lisitsa! Her playing is magnificent with exquisite dynamics and timing.
ashley albanese , Apr 23 2018 3:52 utc | 89
George Orwell has been a presence throughout this thread. It was unfortunate he was hurried by MI6 to finish the last pages of 'Animal Farm' so it could be translated into Arabic and be used to discredit Communist parties in Western Asia. This always raised the ire of Communist organisations through following decades .This being said he wrote some great text especially for me the revealing 1939 novel - Coming up for A
Steve , Apr 23 2018 8:54 utc | 91
What many people don't realize is that fascism is a greedy habit, it expands to finally swallow up those who think they are protected by silence or looking the other way. The individuals and organizations villified today are the real heroes, and even if they suffer today, they will be vindicated in the end. But unfortunately the gullible masses would by then be in the open prison of fascism.
MichaelK , Apr 23 2018 15:00 utc | 94
I don't know if wars are really an extension of diplomacy by other means, but they certainly seem to be... an extension of ideology and propaganda. Ideas are very important in preparing and fighting wars; especially today, though, in reality the way we think about our western imperial war-fighting, goes back well over a century, back to the Whiteman's Burden and other imperialist myths.

For the last thirty years we've essentially been fighting 'liberal crusades for freedom and democracy.' That, at least, was the 'cover story' the pretext presented to the people. There's an irony here. Just like Islamic State, we've been engaging in 'holy warfare' too!

The reason our media is so full of lies and distortions and propaganda is because the harsh realities of our New Imperialism wars are so out of synch with the reality of what's happening and crucially the attitudes of the general public who don't want to fight more overseas wars, and especially if they are 'crusades' for democracy and freedom. But what's happened recently is that dissent is being targeted as tantamount to treason. This is rather new and disturbing.

It's because the ruling elite are... losing it and way too many people are questioning their ideas about the wars we are fighting and their legitimacy and 'right to rule.'

In many ways the Internet is bringing about a kind of revolution in relation to the people's access to 'texts' and images that reminds one of the great intellectual upheavals that the translation of the Bible had on European thought four hundred years ago. Suddenly Bibles were being printed all over the place and people could read the sacred texts without having to ask the educated priests to 'filter' and translate and explain what it all meant. In a way Wikileaks was doing the same thing... allowing people access to secret material, masses of it, bypassing the traditional newsmedia and the journalistic 'preists.'

[Jun 25, 2020] Smashing Culture by Linh Dinh

Jun 25, 2020 | www.unz.com

At the start of French Revolution, Bertrand Barère declared, "The revolutions of a barbarous people destroy all monuments, and the very trace of the arts seems to be effaced. The revolutions of an enlightened people conserve the fine arts, and embellish them [ ]"

Soon after, though, thousands of French statues were wrecked, and many heads tumbled into baskets. Barère, "The tree of liberty grows only when watered by the blood of tyrants." The Anacreon of the Guillotine was lucky to escape with his own noggin.

Again, the defeated must watch impotently as their heroes are decapitated or come crashing down. At least they still have their own necks, for the moment, at least.

Washington, Jefferson, Grant and Francis Scott Key have been toppled, and even a likeness of Cervantes had red paint splashed on its eyes. "BASTARD" was scrawled on its pedestal. The woke vandal didn't know that here was no conquistador or slave owner, but a slave of five years, not to mention a seminal writer in the Western canon.

Ah, but "seminal," "Western" and "canon" are evil words now, you see, so maybe he did know, for this is, at bottom, an assault on every pillar, brick, cornice and baseboard of Western civilization. Burn it all down, for it is uniquely racist, sexist, genocidal and transphobic. I mean, for thousands of years, evil whites absolutely resisted the installation of all-gender shit holes.

Shut up already, and listen to Susan Sontag, "If America is the culmination of Western white civilization, as everyone from the Left to the Right declares, then there must be something terribly wrong with Western white civilization. This is a painful truth; few of us want to go that far . The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballets, et al, don't redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone -- its ideologies and inventions -- which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself."

Later, Sontag regretted offending cancer patients with her poor choice of metaphor.

It's essential that we be exorcised from "dead white men." I remember when this idiotic term started to circulate. I had just dropped out of art school. While drinking Rolling Rock in smoky McGlinchey's in Philadelphia, I told another art fag that he should know his art history, for how can you do anything if you have no idea what's been achieved? Leering, this cipher smugly growled, "They're just dead white men, man!"

In 2015, I taught for a semester at Leipzig University, so nearly each day, I'd walk by a hideous building that crudely approximated the destroyed Paulinerkirche. Built in 1231, this church survived all the vicissitudes, upheavals and wars down the centuries, only to be dynamited by Communists in 1968. So what if Martin Luther had officiated there, and Bach was a musical director? Of course, its rich history only made it more delicious to blow up, for iconoclasm is the orgasm of "progressives," and that's why I've never identified as one.

There's one Leipzig neighborhood, Connewitz, that's famous across Germany as the center of progressive politics, most notably the antifa movement, and guess what? It is thoroughly defaced with graffiti that are often anti-cop or anti-Germany . During clashes with police that Connewitzers instigate, shop windows are gleefully broken not just at multinationals, but mom-and-pops, because, you know, once you go berserk, it's hard to stop. Reflecting on this in 2015, I knew it would only escalate and spread beyond Germany, and it has. Seeing photos of Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, I immediately thought of Connewitz .

When I wrote recently about the need for liberated zones, I meant, first of, the defense of your own communities, as happened in Philadelphia's Fishtown and Italian Market, where locals banded together to block an invasion of vandals and looters.

Here in South Korea, local monuments and mores are safe. Here in Busan, there's a huge statue honoring General Jeong Bal, who was killed by Japanese invaders in 1592. Losing with dignity is worthy of remembrance, though some contend he actually ran away. Historical debates are healthy.

More interesting to me are five sculptures of war refugees by Lee Hyun-woo, near the 40-Step Stairway. It was a shanty town during the Korean War, when Busan was a temporary capital after Seoul was overrun by Chinese and North Korean troops.

Depicted without hokiness, these are admirably realistic figures of a mother breastfeeding her baby while her naked son stood by, crying; two girls carrying water , one with a shoulder pole and the other with a jar on her head; two boys covering their ears as a man makes popcorn with a bomb-like contraption; a fedora-wearing accordionist , sitting on a bench; and two exhausted porters at rest . As public sculptures, they're perfect, for they're gracefully inserted into the environment as they dignify local history. Informative and fortifying, these bronze ghosts mingle with contemporary Koreans.

Across a Japanese-built bridge not far away, there's a statue of Hyeon In . You can sit on a stone bench next to the smiling, suited singer, and hear his songs eternally broadcast from a bible-sized speaker.

In 1949, he made every man, woman, child and dog sob with his rendition of "Seoul's Night Music." "Walking through Chungmuro under a spring rain / Tears flowing down the window panes." Oh, stop, stop! You're murdering me! I can't take it! A true legend.

As a refugee in Busan, Hyeon In wrote "Be Strong, Guem-soon." It's a message to his sister to stay strong until they meet again.

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There is a street dedicated to the painter Lee Jung-soeb . He's known for gestural paintings of bulls, and playful drawings of boys hugging fish and crabs pinching penises . Educated in Tokyo, his brief career started just after World War II and lasted through the Korean War.

Living all over, he starved, suffered from schizophrenia, drank too much and died in 1956 of hepatitis, at age 40 and alone, in a Red Cross Hospital. His wife and kids had been sent to Tokyo to escape the fighting. Although peripheral to art history, Jung-soeb matters to Koreans, and that's enough. Meaning is local , above all.

Honoring their own culture and history, South Koreans also appreciate the finest from elsewhere. There are upcoming concerts of Saint Saen , Brahms, Beethoven and Vaughan Williams .

Rather bizarrely, Jin Ramen has a Joan Miro edition, and this made no sense to me until I noticed the Miroesque zigzags, wiggly lines and goofy shapes floating on its bright yellow packaging .

At Seomyeon Subway Station, there are reproductions of Ingres , Picasso , Modigliani , Manet , Caravaggio , Renoir , Turner, van Gogh, Monet, Canaletto and Goya . On an outside wall of a press die factory in Gamjeon-dong, a rather dreary neighborhood, there are reproductions of van Gogh , Magritte , Picasso , Mondrian and Lee Jung-seob , complete with labels to educate viewers.

The objective is not to present convincing facsimiles of great paintings, but merely to pique interest for further investigation. It's similar to a street being named after a writer, painter, composer or scientist, as happens quite routinely in Paris, for example, but almost never seen in America, a country with a long, aggressive streak of anti-intellectualism.

We're no longer talking about joe sixpacks sneering at pretentious bullshit, however. Thanks to Howard Stern, Jerry Springer, Rush Limbaugh, Honey Boo Boo, gangsta rap and antifa, etc., there is now a pandemic of cocksure loutishness, with frequent eruptions into violent barbarism. Ironically, the most militant driver of American anti-intellectualism is the academy, for nowhere else has thinking ceased more completely.

If we're in a revolution, it's one of enlightened barbarism, or woke savagery, carefully engineered down the decades. Yo massas enjoy the spectacle of y'all clawing at each other.

At Unz, there is a recent article by the Nation of Islam Research Group, "How Farrakhan Solved the Crime and Drug Problem And How the Jews Attacked Him ." Whatever its flaws or biases, it is a fascinating expose of how Jews sabotaged an effort of blacks to help themselves. Immediately, I thought of the Jewish campaign against Craig Nelse n, who, against all odds, is desperately trying to save the most troubled, and even suicidal, white youths.

Connect the dots, people, before it's too late.

Linh Dinh's latest book is Postcards from the End of America . He maintains a regularly updated photo blog .

ruralguy , says: Show Comment June 24, 2020 at 2:19 pm GMT

Ordinary people don't have any extraordinary vision, yet they shape the nation with their votes. They see the world with a jumble of inane emotional thought. The arts, sciences and philosophy mean nothing to them. Their thoughts are adrift in emotional nonsense, like our nation.

[Jun 25, 2020] BET Founder Says Black People Laugh At White People Toppling Statues

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... He pointed out that knocking over a statue will not "close the wealth gap," "give a kid whose parent's can't afford a college money to go to college," "close the labor gap between what white workers are paid and what black workers are paid" or "take people off welfare or food stamps." ..."
"... Johnson said that whites who seek to "assuage guilt by doing things that make them feel good" would be much more reluctant to support payments for blacks. ..."
"... Referring to actions such as "changing names, toppling statues, [and] firing professors because they said all lives matter," Johnson explained that "it just shows to me that white America is continually ... incapable of recognizing that black people have their own ideas and thought about what's in their best interests." ..."
"... "Give us the belief that you respect our opinion. You go out and do something and destroy something, fire somebody because you think it hurts us. Why don't you ask us first if it hurts us before you go and say 'Oh, I gotta do something for the negroes to make them feel better.' Well ask us if we want you to do that to make us feel better," he said. ..."
"... Johnson likened white people's actions attempting to make black people "feel good" to "rearranging the deck chairs on a racial Titanic. It absolutely means nothing," he said. ..."
Jun 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Alex Nitzberg via JustTheNews.com,

BET founder Robert Johnson during a Wednesday interview with Fox News described people toppling statues as "borderline anarchists" and pushed back against the idea that black people support such behavior, suggesting instead that they "laugh" at those who knock down the statues.

"You know black people, in my opinion, black people laugh at white people who do this, the same way we laugh at white people who say we got to take off the TV shows," he said mentioning the "Dukes of Hazard," a decades-old television program that has come under fire for featuring a car emblazoned with a Confederate flag graphic.

He pointed out that knocking over a statue will not "close the wealth gap," "give a kid whose parent's can't afford a college money to go to college," "close the labor gap between what white workers are paid and what black workers are paid" or "take people off welfare or food stamps."

Johnson said that whites who seek to "assuage guilt by doing things that make them feel good" would be much more reluctant to support payments for blacks.

Referring to actions such as "changing names, toppling statues, [and] firing professors because they said all lives matter," Johnson explained that "it just shows to me that white America is continually ... incapable of recognizing that black people have their own ideas and thought about what's in their best interests."

https://video.foxnews.com/v/video-embed.html?video_id=6167003994001

He suggested that black people should be consulted before people take actions like tearing down statues or firing someone for a comment they have made.

"Give us the belief that you respect our opinion. You go out and do something and destroy something, fire somebody because you think it hurts us. Why don't you ask us first if it hurts us before you go and say 'Oh, I gotta do something for the negroes to make them feel better.' Well ask us if we want you to do that to make us feel better," he said.

Johnson likened white people's actions attempting to make black people "feel good" to "rearranging the deck chairs on a racial Titanic. It absolutely means nothing," he said.

Johnson's comments come as debates rage across the country in the aftermath of the death of George Floyd -- in some cases protestors have defaced and toppled statues. President Trump has come out against changing the names of military installations named after Confederate leaders.

[Jun 24, 2020] Advice to Russigaters of the Democratic Party

Jun 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

JoaoAlfaiate , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:48 pm GMT

Before confronting the Russians, it might be a good idea to regain control of Minneapolis and Seattle ..

[Jun 23, 2020] Identity politics is, first and foremost, a dirty and shrewd political strategy developed by the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party ( soft neoliberals ) to counter the defection of trade union members from the party

Highly recommended!
divide and conquer 1. To gain or maintain power by generating tension among others, especially those less powerful, so that they cannot unite in opposition.
Notable quotes:
"... In its most general form, identity politics involves (i) a claim that a particular group is not being treated fairly and (ii) a claim that members of that group should place political priority on the demand for fairer treatment. But "fairer" can mean lots of different things. I'm trying to think about this using contrasts between the set of terms in the post title. A lot of this is unoriginal, but I'm hoping I can say something new. ..."
"... The second problem is that neoliberals on right and left sometimes use identity as a shield to protect neoliberal policies. As one commentator has argued, "Without the bedrock of class politics, identity politics has become an agenda of inclusionary neoliberalism in which individuals can be accommodated but addressing structural inequalities cannot." What this means is that some neoliberals hold high the banner of inclusiveness on gender and race and thus claim to be progressive reformers, but they then turn a blind eye to systemic changes in politics and the economy. ..."
"... Critics argue that this is "neoliberal identity politics," and it gives its proponents the space to perpetuate the policies of deregulation, privatization, liberalization, and austerity. ..."
"... If we assume that identity politics is, first and foremost, a dirty and shrewd political strategy developed by the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party ("soft neoliberals") many things became much more clear. Along with Neo-McCarthyism it represents a mechanism to compensate for the loss of their primary voting block: trade union members, who in 2016 "en mass" defected to Trump. ..."
Dec 28, 2019 | crookedtimber.org

likbez 12.27.19 at 10:21 pm

John,

I've been thinking about the various versions of and critiques of identity politics that are around at the moment. In its most general form, identity politics involves (i) a claim that a particular group is not being treated fairly and (ii) a claim that members of that group should place political priority on the demand for fairer treatment. But "fairer" can mean lots of different things. I'm trying to think about this using contrasts between the set of terms in the post title. A lot of this is unoriginal, but I'm hoping I can say something new.

You missed one important line of critique -- identity politics as a dirty political strategy of soft neoliberals.

See discussion of this issue by Professor Ganesh Sitaraman in his recent article (based on his excellent book The Great Democracy ) https://newrepublic.com/article/155970/collapse-neoliberalism

To be sure, race, gender, culture, and other aspects of social life have always been important to politics. But neoliberalism's radical individualism has increasingly raised two interlocking problems. First, when taken to an extreme, social fracturing into identity groups can be used to divide people and prevent the creation of a shared civic identity. Self-government requires uniting through our commonalities and aspiring to achieve a shared future.

When individuals fall back onto clans, tribes, and us-versus-them identities, the political community gets fragmented. It becomes harder for people to see each other as part of that same shared future.

Demagogues [more correctly neoliberals -- likbez] rely on this fracturing to inflame racial, nationalist, and religious antagonism, which only further fuels the divisions within society. Neoliberalism's war on "society," by pushing toward the privatization and marketization of everything, thus indirectly facilitates a retreat into tribalism that further undermines the preconditions for a free and democratic society.

The second problem is that neoliberals on right and left sometimes use identity as a shield to protect neoliberal policies. As one commentator has argued, "Without the bedrock of class politics, identity politics has become an agenda of inclusionary neoliberalism in which individuals can be accommodated but addressing structural inequalities cannot." What this means is that some neoliberals hold high the banner of inclusiveness on gender and race and thus claim to be progressive reformers, but they then turn a blind eye to systemic changes in politics and the economy.

Critics argue that this is "neoliberal identity politics," and it gives its proponents the space to perpetuate the policies of deregulation, privatization, liberalization, and austerity.

Of course, the result is to leave in place political and economic structures that harm the very groups that inclusionary neoliberals claim to support. The foreign policy adventures of the neoconservatives and liberal internationalists haven't fared much better than economic policy or cultural politics. The U.S. and its coalition partners have been bogged down in the war in Afghanistan for 18 years and counting. Neither Afghanistan nor Iraq is a liberal democracy, nor did the attempt to establish democracy in Iraq lead to a domino effect that swept the Middle East and reformed its governments for the better. Instead, power in Iraq has shifted from American occupiers to sectarian militias, to the Iraqi government, to Islamic State terrorists, and back to the Iraqi government -- and more than 100,000 Iraqis are dead.

Or take the liberal internationalist 2011 intervention in Libya. The result was not a peaceful transition to stable democracy but instead civil war and instability, with thousands dead as the country splintered and portions were overrun by terrorist groups. On the grounds of democracy promotion, it is hard to say these interventions were a success. And for those motivated to expand human rights around the world, it is hard to justify these wars as humanitarian victories -- on the civilian death count alone.

Indeed, the central anchoring assumptions of the American foreign policy establishment have been proven wrong. Foreign policymakers largely assumed that all good things would go together -- democracy, markets, and human rights -- and so they thought opening China to trade would inexorably lead to it becoming a liberal democracy. They were wrong. They thought Russia would become liberal through swift democratization and privatization. They were wrong.

They thought globalization was inevitable and that ever-expanding trade liberalization was desirable even if the political system never corrected for trade's winners and losers. They were wrong. These aren't minor mistakes. And to be clear, Donald Trump had nothing to do with them. All of these failures were evident prior to the 2016 election.

If we assume that identity politics is, first and foremost, a dirty and shrewd political strategy developed by the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party ("soft neoliberals") many things became much more clear. Along with Neo-McCarthyism it represents a mechanism to compensate for the loss of their primary voting block: trade union members, who in 2016 "en mass" defected to Trump.

Initially Clinton calculation was that trade union voters has nowhere to go anyways, and it was correct for first decade or so of his betrayal. But gradually trade union members and lower middle class started to leave Dems in droves (Demexit, compare with Brexit) and that where identity politics was invented to compensate for this loss.

So in addition to issues that you mention we also need to view the role of identity politics as the political strategy of the "soft neoliberals " directed at discrediting and the suppression of nationalism.

The resurgence of nationalism is the inevitable byproduct of the dominance of neoliberalism, resurgence which I think is capable to bury neoliberalism as it lost popular support (which now is limited to financial oligarchy and high income professional groups, such as we can find in corporate and military brass, (shrinking) IT sector, upper strata of academy, upper strata of medical professionals, etc)

That means that the structure of the current system isn't just flawed which imply that most problems are relatively minor and can be fixed by making some tweaks. It is unfixable, because the "Identity wars" reflect a deep moral contradictions within neoliberal ideology. And they can't be solved within this framework.

[Jun 23, 2020] Monumental Error Washington DC Mob Attacks Andrew Jackson by Jacob Heilbrunn

Jun 23, 2020 | nationalinterest.org

The police may manage to keep Jackson intact for now, but Lafayette Park and its immediate environs are in the hands of the protesters.

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[Jun 23, 2020] Iconoclasm and Race Wars by Micah Mattix

Actually both nationalists and BLM are noted fighters with icons of the past. Especially during "color revolutions"
They want their own version of history and can't accept any alternatives. That confirm the saying that that history is the future overturned into the past.
Notable quotes:
"... And all over Britain, statues of forgotten politicians, merchants, generals, and admirals (and now the blue plaques that commemorate them) are being investigated, to see if they in some way celebrate a wicked past. Even the looming sculpture of Winston Churchill in Parliament Square has been first scrawled on by protestors (who also defaced a nearby monument to Abraham Lincoln) and then hidden in a box by Greater London's feeble authorities ..."
"... This is a good indication of the state of modern Britain, teetering on the edge of a cultural revolution so severe that its greatest modern figure has lost his power as a unifying force and memory ..."
"... IdPol is tolerated and even promoted because it does not make any substantive changes. It does not affect economic relations, much less take money out of rich people's pockets. ..."
Jun 19, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Pulling statues down or calling for the removal of "problematic" portraits isn't motivated by a desire to forget the past, Michel Foucault argued. It is a way of returning to it and reigniting its conflicts . Blake Smith in The Washington Examiner : "

What we are in the habit of calling 'identity politics,' and particularly political movements based on (somewhat contradictory) appeals to racial solidarity and anti-racism, depend on a 'certain way of making historical knowledge work within political struggle.' So argued Foucault in Society Must Be Defended , a 1976 book based on a lecture series about 'political historicism.'

Many on the American Right hold Foucault, along with his French postmodernist contemporaries, partly responsible for the emergence of identity politics. It would be more accurate to say that Foucault was one of the first, and sharpest, analysts of the way identity-based political movements appeal to history and ignite what he called 'race war.' . . .

Hiding their crimes with myths, the oppressors have made the oppressed forget who they are and what they have suffered. But the signs of that historical violence are all around us -- in statues, place names, and everyday language. Purging the culture of these signs is not so much an ethical demand that the past conform to present values as it is a way of plunging the present back into past conflicts, which the oppressed now stand a chance of winning."

Peter Hitchens makes a similar point in a short piece on iconoclasm in England in First Things :

"It is the Rhodes statue that is controversial. But this is no longer really about Rhodes. In the last few days it has been under police guard. Not long ago a large demonstration, wholly ignoring supposed rules about avoiding viral infection, gathered beneath it while shouting about decolonization, as if Britain still had an empire. Perhaps they wish it was so. People need enemies, and dismantled empires are nothing like as good for this purpose as living, breathing ones . . .

And all over Britain, statues of forgotten politicians, merchants, generals, and admirals (and now the blue plaques that commemorate them) are being investigated, to see if they in some way celebrate a wicked past. Even the looming sculpture of Winston Churchill in Parliament Square has been first scrawled on by protestors (who also defaced a nearby monument to Abraham Lincoln) and then hidden in a box by Greater London's feeble authorities .

This is a good indication of the state of modern Britain, teetering on the edge of a cultural revolution so severe that its greatest modern figure has lost his power as a unifying force and memory ."


joeo 4 days ago

I assume Napoleon is still safe? The French seem to be able to hold it togeather.
York joeo 4 days ago
I don't know about France, but here it seems to be about normalizing a new process. Gangs of thugs are being allowed and even encouraged to go into certain neighborhoods to intimidate and attack those who live there, to break, burn, and deface other people's property with impunity.

It combines Orwell's "two minute hate" with the kind of behavior we condemned when it was done by the Ku Klux Klan.

Feral Finster 4 days ago • edited
If renaming parks and boulevards and appointing blue ribbon commissions were enough to fix anything, you'd think that everything would be fixed by now.

IdPol is tolerated and even promoted because it does not make any substantive changes. It does not affect economic relations, much less take money out of rich people's pockets.

cka2nd Feral Finster 4 days ago
So many movements get sidetracked by purely symbolic actions on the one hand - "Let's rename every avenue in Harlem, and 125th Street, too!" (the black New York city councilman behind those resolutions was a joke in the local black activist community) - and corporate and elite funding whitewashed through foundations and NGO's on the other. In the 70's, affirmative action was used to build up and buy off the black middle class while working class jobs for blacks were gradually disappearing, and today it's Diversity, Inc. jobs.
Feral Finster cka2nd 4 days ago
From something that I wrote elsewhere:

The Establishment is very good at buying off some, co-opting others, assassinating a few, and marginalizing the rest, or at least waiting for them to get tired of kicking against the pricks. Judging from its track record at surviving this long, the Establishment also is very good at figuring out who gets which treatment.

Its how the activists of the Civil Rights Movement, many of whom once did genuinely brave, even heroic things, were gradually co-opted into corrupt operators of political machines. It's how fire-eating campus radicals were neutered into tenure-seekers and meek supporters of "changing the system from within".

For that matter, the history of the Tea Party is also instructive.

Connecticut

Connecticut Farmer Feral Finster 3 days ago • edited

Hey, this is America. Not Europe. In Europe at least it's about "ideas". In America it's about------------MONEY!! And celebrity.

Only in America can a race hustler/shakedown artist (and part time FBI informant) like Al Sharpton get a permanent gig on a major so-called "news network?" Only in America can a real estate developer and "reality TV host" become president. Not that the office means anything anymore (except to the Chattering Class) but, that's another story.

=marco01= Connecticut Farmer 2 days ago
Oh right, Sharpton and nearly all black people are 'race hustling' when they talk about the racial injustice they suffer.

I'm sure you would know, being a white guy and all.

Rob G =marco01= 2 days ago
Probably not a great idea to have "Sharpton" and "nearly all black people" as the compound subject in a sentence.
Rkramden66 Connecticut Farmer 2 days ago
Sharpton?! LOL. I thought you were talking about Trump!
Adriana Pena 4 days ago
HE explained it better. And was funnier Play Hide
Spacious Skies =marco01= a day ago
"Do Germans honor their ancestors who fought for the cause of the Nazis. No, they do not."

Where do you get "Nazis" from? Confederates weren't "Nazis".

Most of these statues are of Americans who saw more service in the US Army than the Confederate one. Most weren't fighting to preserve slavery. The typical southern soldier didn't even own any slaves. They were fighting an invasion, they did it bravely and honorably. We're proud of them, and we built statues to their memories, in part as proxies for the hundreds of thousands of southern soldiers and others who died during the worst war in our history.

Rod Dreher Moderator Spacious Skies a day ago
Every Christmas Eve, I light a candle on the grave of my grandmother's grandfather, who fought for the Confederacy in the Battle of Port Hudson, and elsewhere. He owned no slaves. He was fighting an invasion, as you say. I am glad that the South lost, because their cause was unjust. But I honor the bravery of my ancestor.
Victor_the_thinker Rod Dreher 18 hours ago
What you do on Christmas Eve is your own business. That’s not the same as a monument to stonewall Jackson erected in 1921 during the raise of the KKK or monuments erected in the 50’s. Clearly lots of people who are southerners don’t like those statues, particularly all those black people. They never liked them and wouldn’t have agreed to erecting them if they had a say at the time of construction. Many of these statues are now in majority black cities like the ones taken down in New Orleans. Those black people are under no obligation to honor any confederate in the public spaces they occupy. From what I’ve read, it sound like they always viewed it as a slap in the face.
PeteZilla Rod Dreher 12 hours ago
That’s fine to do so personally. But these objects in public and in government institutions is not necessary or something we should inspire.
Allington 2 days ago
"Race war" is a misnomer. Yes, there are plenty of black people in some of the mobs, but regarding "iconoclasm", the videos of the monument vandals show mostly what look like rich, overweight white kids from Scarsdale or the Upper West Side, probably using mommy's credit card to fund their window-smashing, statue-toppling, and building-burning expeditions. The toll of their destruction and violence is terrible, but I can't believe it's really that hard to catch and imprison them.

Why are they still running amok? When will the authorities act to protect and defend the people and property of their cities and states?

hooly a day ago
The people who are angry about the pulling down and desecration of Confederate statues are the same people who cheered when statues of Lenin and other Soviet dignitaries were pulled down and desecrated when the USSR fell or when statues of Saddam Hussein fell during the Iraq War II. Hypocritical much??

[Jun 20, 2020] "If none of us ever read a book that was "dangerous," had a friend who was "different," or joined an organization that advocated "change," we would all be the kind of people Joe McCarthy wants."

Jun 20, 2020 | taibbi.substack.com

Check Jun 13

"If none of us ever read a book that was "dangerous," had a friend who was "different," or joined an organization that advocated "change," we would all be the kind of people Joe McCarthy wants."

Edward R. Murrow

[Jun 20, 2020] These ideologues are the Red Guard of a new Cultural Revolution. Their goal is power and their method is leveraging progressive guilt

Matt Taibbi whose recent book Hate Inc. is worth reading, has written a J’accuse essay arguing that “the American left has lost its mind.”
Notable quotes:
"... I think they are far, far more dangerous than Donald Trump or anything going on with the right. Thank you Matt for writing about this! ..."
"... It's due to the PRESS. They have lost all credibility before Trump got in with The Collusion, The Ukraine thing, all the hyping the Golden Shower. They are stoking the fire Big Time! ..."
"... Not so shocking if you understand how revolutions have always worked. It's never the poor... they have the most to lose if the cart turns over. It's the idle "just below wealthy" crowd. There are so many people out here with degrees and no careers or jobs for those particular degrees.... ..."
"... "the hippies all went off to get law or finance degrees. Then, they became the greedy rats." ..."
"... That's who is behind Antifa, BTW... idle and bored upper to upper-middle class kids who like the rotten offspring of nobility in the past have no future to hope for and so they tear the temple down. ..."
"... It's always been this way - the ruling class is ALWAYS anarchistic. THEY'RE the ones with a precarious perch... and they are the ones who hate the order and the law because it hampers their mobility. ..."
"... Why are most of the #resistance participants mostly white, mostly upper-middle to upper class and mostly centered around Ivy League and prestigious, (read as: EXPENSIVE,) colleges? ..."
"... Incredibly, many High Church Democratic Party Partisans justify that abandonment of integrity with Whataboutism. Thereby passing on yet another opportunity to distinguish themselves from the Republican Party skunk-works politics, in favor of doing a half-hearted imitation of it. (Because once fairness- integrity- is discarded, any ad man can lick any college professor.) ..."
"... To promulgate a Red Guard - Cultural Revolution policy without physical power is like tapping a rattlesnake with a stick ..."
"... What we need is fewer journalists and more old fashioned reporters. ..."
"... But your state IS breaking federal law. They have allowed Marxist anarchists to carve out a six-block Caliphate in the middle of Seattle. Under Federal Law, that is insurrection. ..."
"... You're prioritizing agitprop, advocacy, and activism, over the neutral reporting of reality. Ideas like yours are helping turn the entire political conversation into a two-team football match where no tactic is concerned below the belt. ..."
"... How many times have i heard "Silence is Violence." So no one can say anything that is counter to the talking points of #BLM or any one of it's sycophantic zombie parrots AND if one says nothing at all or doesn't take a knee to beg forgiveness for not letting someone get in front of them in a lunch line, that person is either a) most definitely RACIST or A Tom. I cant think of more effective ways to silence people short of cutting out their tongues. ..."
"... I'm sympathetic to your position re: social media regulation, but ultimately I think that it would be inappropriate for the owners / shareholders of user-content platforms like Twitter or Facebook to institute their own censorship policies. As Taibbi has documented in the past, it frequently becomes an unaccountable secret censorship board that scoops up all sorts of legitimate coverage and activism. ..."
"... It was the right that eliminated the "fairness doctrine" under Saint Ronald Reagan. It was OK as long as their allies owned the bullhorn. I feel their pain, but only up to a point. ..."
"... You say that the witch-burning zealotry of progressive thought is not a sign of progressives' inability to recognize the fundamental right of people to hold non-dogmatic views, even though that's exactly what it looks like, and that's exactly what progressives keep telling us they believe. No matter. As long as wrong-thinking people never state their views, and as long as they publicly pledge allegiance to whatever liberal groupthink is then in fashion, then they will be treated as having basic human dignity. ..."
"... You explain away the totalitarianism of this solution by claiming the clones always had a choice. But you are really just making the right of others to think for themselves contingent upon their willingness to have you do it for them. Human dignity is just a tool for extending your will. ..."
"... I don't know the work of Lee Fang. I think is it generally unwise to bully a journalist to self-censor. I understand the general criticism of the black-on-black crime... ..."
"... Upper class bourgeois cunts once again trying to flip the cart over because they think they know better than the "commoners"? These New Victorians are shit. ..."
"... We are constantly being told we need to engage in a "dialogue" about race. But you can't have a dialogue in a minefield where the slightest misstep sets off a Twitter explosion. ..."
"... Politics are fine in the larger discussion of finding ways to solve social problems. It's how we hash ideas out and improve society. But the trends I am seeing now, and of which you report on here, are more reminiscent of the Soviet-era Pravda. The truth is whatever the State says it is, and even the slightest dissent will be met with ruthless personal destruction and ostracism. I grew up reading William L. Shirer, John Hersey, Peter Maas, Robin Moore, Woodward and Bernstein and many more like them. ..."
"... 1984 -- The writer of Truth rewrites history to fit whatever they want. Read the book. That's the news media today. A warning leftists: Stalin and Hitler controlled the media. It's not TRUMP controlling the media. Or ignoring the truth. And it should scare the hell out of every American. ..."
"... Mr. Taibbi fires a warning shot to alert us that the "instinct (in the American media) to shield audiences from views or facts deemed politically uncomfortable ..."
"... I'm thankful that there's more to the Internet news media than Facebook, and more to Internet discourse than Twitter. I participate in neither one. And frankly, their management decisions don't worry me overly much. ..."
"... You say: "Lacy to her credit publicly thanked Fang for his statement and expressed willingness to have a conversation; unfortunately, the throng of Intercept co-workers who piled on her initial accusation did not join her in this." ..."
"... To her credit? Matt, why so generous? You are rewarding Lacy for doing a horrible thing. This is like the irritating cherry on top of a pile of poisoned shit. She chose to first light the match and throw it onto what she surely knew was a pile of gas-soaked kindling. Fang gets torched by the mob-inferno she incited, then SHE gets an apology from Fang???!!! THEN she says she's willing to have a conversation, ie, the petty princess deigns... while watching her colleague get his job threatened for .... doing his job well? Well, well... hell. This is hell. ..."
"... I am an immigrant from a communist country and I believe that Soviet style communism was worse it terms of its brutality, but not as morally damaging as this voluntary march to serfdom that I see in modern America. ..."
Jun 20, 2020 | taibbi.substack.com

Matt Taibbi Jun 12 1,191 493 A flurry of newsroom revolts has transformed the American press Read →


Sean Carson Jun 12

This is such an IMPORTANT story. But it's not just happening in newsrooms, it's happening everywhere: college campuses, corporations and the workplace, social media platforms, politics, you name it. These ideologues are the Red Guard of a new Cultural Revolution. Their goal is power and their method is leveraging progressive guilt. I think they are far, far more dangerous than Donald Trump or anything going on with the right. Thank you Matt for writing about this!

Lawcat Jun 15

The hijacking of the media by progressives and those to the left of them has a real potential to kill America. We need voices like Matt's to make ordinary Americans hear how real this danger is. The Constitution cannot take much more abuse.

Substack Commenter 34 Jun 13

It's our modern Terror, and everyone on Twitter is our Robespierre. Right down to often having the mob turn on the accusers eventually as well. The main difference is that it's your career and reputation that get the guillotine these days.

Scott Jun 15

IDK... human history reminds us that both extremes have been fighting it out since, well since the dawn of man.

In the political climate leading up to WWII, there were plenty of communist factions running alongside national socialist fascism. Both were authoritarian and both totalitarian.

One side won out over the other eventually, and the US/GB/FR alliance's own brand of nationalism/globalism won out when the Soviet Union collapsed.

The parallels are striking, though "things are different now". PEOPLE aren't different now.

They STILL don't seem able to remember the Armenian genocide during WWI, and the cycles go on.

We'll either end up with nationalism or we'll end up with another Stalinesque era.

Dazed and Confused Jun 13

Bravo for writing this Matt. You could, of course, have written it without first establishing your bona fides as a trump detractor. The problem you address has nothing to do with trump and would exist regardless of who was in the white house. This doesn't mean there are no problems with trump, or that he hasn't made a bad situation worse. But that is where we are today. Before anyone can criticize the obviously insane ideological absurdities within the liberal/left wing press they must first take a swing at trump in case anyone thinks criticism of the press is the same thing as supporting trump. How sad.

Sherry Jun 13

It's exactly the same kind of constraint that anyone who might dare oppose defunding the police now how to include paragraphs about how saintly George Floyd was and on and on. The poor man died a horrific death, and the cop who did it should face justice. But that doesn't mean that George Floyd himself is ready for sainthood.

Substack Commenter 34 Jun 14

To be clear, Matt has a strong track record of anti-Trump writing. You are correct that his election to put those words into the article is to establish some credibility with that audience... but his bone fides are only questioned by those who are too blinded by Trump hate to see the dangers from his enemies. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is not the best path when in that way Comey becomes your buddy (despite the totality of his actions including destroying HRC's election chances). I try to hate the bad actors on both sides equally and lament the weakness of the center.

Lekimball Jun 14

I'm sure he does have a history of it, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't remind folks. Or shouldn't. It's a good strategy of persuasion. I'm not sure I'm following the rest of your point. WHOSE enemies? Trump's or Matt's?

Scott Frasier Jun 12

Liberalism has been tamed by the illiberal elements on the right for quite some time. The "fairness" and "both sides" argument has been wielded like a weapon to undermine what many liberals believe should be a liberal society.

What you are seeing is a reaction by the formerly liberal to the continued erosion of our society and its norms. Donald Trump's election has accelerated this erosion to the point that those who feel justifiably threatened by him and his supporters are no longer going to be "fair". Only suckers are fair with this crowd.

I don't disagree that something has changed in the media, although I don't think it is a drastic as this article suggests. The New York Times doesn't accept any opinion that is submitted. They won't publish one that calls for the destruction of Israel, for example.

In the context of Donald Trump threatening time deploy the military to states - blue ones, if we are going to be honest about it - the Cotton opinion was viewed as a dangerous provocation by many. It wasn't merely an academic argument for public policy nerds. In another time, such an opinion might just be ignored, but this is a time where many anti-Trump voters have a palpable fear that he knows no limits and that their concept of America is being lost through inattention by fair-minded liberals.

You are watching the country go on civil war footing. The differences are becoming more sharply drawn and liberals are finally going to draw those lines for themselves. I agree it is not a pretty picture, but it is entirely understandable considering the political instability that three and a half years of Trumpism has brought us.

Sean Carson Jun 12

The toxicity that Matt writes about isn't just due to Trump - it's due to the left abandoning traditional liberal values in favor of political correctness and identity politics. This new Red Guard of ideological purity is the natural - shocking - evolution of that....

Postipressionist Jun 13

It's due to the PRESS. They have lost all credibility before Trump got in with The Collusion, The Ukraine thing, all the hyping the Golden Shower. They are stoking the fire Big Time!

Trump managed to keep US out of any new wars and he's bringing back troops. He brokered peace between, the Koreas, also brokered a ceasefire in the middle of the Syrian war which lead to more peace there and removing our troops.

The economy was getting back on track. He flunked in Education, infrastructure, and a bunch of other stuff. What he did for immigration was great. We are not a dumpster for the world. We need to feed, house and employ the people already here.

Granted he's a jerk but he is the most transparent president we ever had. You can know what he's thinking because his subconscious is hooked up to twitter.

Traditional Liberal Values? They're screaming, he's going to push the Red Button, He's going to get US into war. He insulted all our foreign friends (who were NEVER our friends.) He's pulling 9,000 troops from Germany and Korea's next with 20,000 troops there. Look at Pelosi? Statues? Really? our educational system has crashed, 60% of our households are dependent on the other 40% for subsidy. Make raising the wage a priority.

It's too late for education - California is spending $13,000,000,000 on Special Ed. and has nothing to show for it.

I'm sorry. I'll shut up!

LorriAnn Jun 15

No dont shut up! Say it. Too many people (myself included) are so fatigued by this nonsense that we either check out from all of it which is a great strategy by the liberal fascists or we watch and listen frightened by what we see, hear and experience but we're so tired of being bullied and shamed for dissent that we just go back to Amazon or Netflix to find that big black box staring us in the face and the new carefully curated featured content to remind us of just how shitty we are for trying to get away from it for an hour or two. Im exhausted by the energy it takes to stop myself from introducing most every sentence w: of course George Floyd was murdered and murder is murder. Or...i resent that you assume Im a racist- trying to defend something about to come out of my mouth when no defense is necessary. Honestly this the most intelligent informed discourse and mostly rational well-formed arguments Ive seen in...well ever. Now what can we do?? What actions can we take? I am seriously interested in ideas because im tired of being held hostage. Thanks Matt for your work. You attract the kind of readers capable of this sort of grown up discussion

Mascot Jun 17

"60% of our households are dependent on the other 40% for subsidy."

That's a terribly unclear statistic. But the inference I draw from it is that most people aren't getting paid enough money, and their rent is too damn high.

Granted, that opinion is drawn from analyses that rely on more than just one statistic.

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/wealth.html

Also, two award-winning reporters whose work has largely been ignored by the "liberal press" and television for the last 25 years http://barlettandsteele.com/

(Maybe it's because they criticized some congressional Democrats, back in the 1980s. I don't know. But for whatever reason, the work of Donald Barlett and James B. Steele is relegated to the margins in the pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post. Their bio blurb states that they've had stories published in both of those papers of note, but I've never once seen their byline on a story published by either outlet. I've never once seen either of them interviewed on a TV news program, either. They ought to be running an entire network, considering that their reportage covers more substantive content than CNN, FOX, CNBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC combined.)

I never see this former Nixon campaign strategist in the newspapers or on TV, either https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Rich-Poor-Electorate-Aftermath/dp/006097396X

Postipressionist Jun 18

60% of Households Now Receive More in Subsidized Income Than they Pay in Taxes -

https://taxfoundation.org/60-percent-households-now-receive-more-transfer-income-they-pay-taxes/

Scott Frasier Jun 17

He used to show up a lot in the 80's and early 90's. After the Clinton era, everyone in the media lost interest in class.

The demise of the beat reporter in America and the dominance of news "stars" removed any remaining class connection between those who report the so-called news and those who consume it.

Scott Jun 15

Not so shocking if you understand how revolutions have always worked. It's never the poor... they have the most to lose if the cart turns over. It's the idle "just below wealthy" crowd. There are so many people out here with degrees and no careers or jobs for those particular degrees....

So they turn on everyone: their parents, the "system".

Read up on as many "revolutions" as you can and you'll see that the drivers are mostly white, mostly wealthy, (compared to the majority,) and always angry.

The 1960s saw HUGE cultural changes... led by drugged out trust-fund babies who could afford to sit around getting high all day espousing the tenets of some "exotic" ideology. The working class either went off to die in a rice paddy or they worked for a living and didn't have the time to march/sit in/revolt all week.

The movement was a real thing, based in honorable intentions... but it got hijacked and then commercialized - the Achilles' heel. Once Sears started selling ponchos, the game was over. It just spiraled into the decadence of the 1970s and the hippies all went off to get law or finance degrees.

Then, they became the greedy rats.

Lekimball Jun 15

Ha. This is very astute and so true. My husband and I always talk about this! The same thing is happening now. It isn't even about Floyd anymore.

Scott Jun 15

Sadly, they're hijacking the movement because THEIR stupid movement isn't a movement at all - it's just more regurgitated Marxism. Somehow their totalitarian Marxism is going to be better than all other iterations that came before -at the cost of around 200 million lives so far.

We should be having a discussion on how best to change the entire criminal justice system -not trying to occupy city neighborhoods and declare a new shit-country like CHAZistan.

CHAZ is like the "Summer of Love" movement; only with a LOT less love.

I'm sure the real estate market in Seattle is going to suffer. As if homeless junkies shitting on the streets and the massive upsurge in theft wasn't bad enough. Now Seattle has LARPers pretending openly that they have started a new country. HAHAHAH

The not so funny side of this is that the black and minority populations STILL won't catch a goddamned break here.

Well, hopefully we can all work toward a better future before the Bolsheviks and Nazis get on to and start the next big extermination.

Mascot Jun 16

"the hippies all went off to get law or finance degrees. Then, they became the greedy rats."

A canard if ever I heard one. Outliers notwithstanding, the lawyers and bankers of America are not a cohort that has an origin story in the "hippie movement" (such as it was.) Or to "the American Left", either. (It's necessary to point out that the inchoate psychedelic idealism of American hippies and the ideology-driven (but callow) American Left are two very different features of the 1960s-early 1970s Zeitgeist. There was some overlap, but a lot less than is often portrayed.)

I mean, come on, think. For more than a minute. That's some Time magazine c.1981 shit.

Scott Frasier Jun 16

But it's considerably easier to hurl insults and invective than it is to actually address another's argument.

And, what if some did get law and finance degrees? What does that prove?

For all the carping about "snowflakes" and safe spaces, some of it legitimate, the flip side is the incessant name-calling, online threats, and paranoia that passes for debate.

The first instinct for many now is the argumentation fallacy of ad hominem, including by those who claim to decry it.

Substack Commenter 34 Jun 15

I generally agree to you but one thing to take into consideration is that we have a much larger group of professional activists who got college loans and a degree in something that would not have been considered pragmatic before government guaranteed loan money was pushed as a way to expand the ranks of the college educated.

Scott Frasier Jun 13

I'm not the one who proposes to invade states with the US military, nor did I raise an I identified police force that assaulted peaceful protesters for a bible photo op.

I'm merely defending the right of a private media company to operate the way they choose. Read the 1st Amendment sometime. It limits government powers. I never said I was a liberal by your definition, which apparently includes advocating for a police state.

Scott Jun 13

I never defined what a liberal is but I did suggest that you might be an authoritarian with moral flexibility. You drew up the correlation between a liberal and an authoritarian all on your own. Space in your head is rent free and it includes a continental breakfast.

Scott Frasier Jun 13

You seem to have this backward. You are advocating that I allow these opinions to exist "rent free" in my paid media sources. I'm arguing that I won't subsidize their crap with my subscription. Why my marketplace choices equate to authoritarianism is mystifying.

I respect Matt's opinion, but choice in what a particular publication publishes has always been within limits. Carping about the internal workings about the NYT, and throwing around words like authoritarian , when we have a regime in Washington that actually wants to deploy the Army on the street of those who didn't vote for them, is a bit off the mark.

Maybe what you are observing is that "liberals" are tired of being tolerant of right wing extremists and their threats and guns and misogyny and racism and are fighting back. It's about time!

Lekimball Jun 13

Oh bull. The secret service said they were throwing rocks. When they are told to MOVE BACK because the president is arriving there, you MOVE BACK. Peaceful or not. If it had been Obama, they would have been MOVED BACK. That is just leftist spin.

LorriAnn Jun 15

Moved back, done a twirl and fallen to their knees. I saw one of those cops take LITERALLY 45min of verbal abuse physical threats and invitations to assault and did not flinch other than to stand his ground when the group advanced. Say what you want about cops but even with the best training available i doubt few if any of those "humans" could withstand That.

Seth Jun 16

Why why why was it necessary for Trump to take that walk in the first place? It was a stunt. It was idiotic. And it endangered people who were protesting legally.

Jen Jun 16

It was an Op Ed, about a very real discussion that was being played out in tweets and sound bites that week anyway.

A Rep. senator and a Dem. senator piece should appear every week. With rational discussion via comments able to challenge or dig deep into what complications it may cause, how the constitution stacks up and any implementations for afterwards.

Same goes for left Op-Edd

Senators more than ever hide behind the party and seeing what they stand for helps with future voting and in some cases (not a great example) can seperate the individuals from the cocoon of the party.

Ive always been left leaning. The current government we have in Australia is Centre/Right wing. It's not quite as polarising here (yet) and things like unfair dismissal based on Age, sexual orientation, etc are just normal things here. As is Medicare and abortion is legal. Those things across the board for everyone make it a firm ground for us to look further and see what the issues and thoughts of our elected officials are, regardless of the are insane.

I cringe at a lot of what the left is lately...the forever offended being aggressive in your compliance with their movement. I agree with some commentary I see from the right skewed media.

These shades of grey are dying - and not hearing from those in office, despite the opposition to the view, is detrimental for all of us

Scott Frasier Jun 16

No such context was provided, nor was an opposing argument provided as a counterpoint. Thus used to occur in the NYT. Now, they provide anger to get ad clicks.

The problem I have with your criticism is that these are not "normal" times and it wasn't a debate between senators. What Sen. Cotton was proposing was being actively threatened by a president who has, for the past three and a half years used/abused his power and mostly against states that didn't vote for him. Those are facts. Trump was in the act of deploying troops at the time of that op-ed and was marching around with his top general wearing combat clothing.

It is quite reasonable for people to take such a situation as an imminent threat and to react to it. Would you have an armchair debate about whether crime pays with someone who had a gun to your head, or would be more concerned with the threat itself?

The NYT should have been more responsible given the political context. Once an illegal invasion of a state is allowed to occur through complacency, it the damage to the country and the military will be permanent.

Holdfast Jun 12

"Liberalism has been tamed by the illiberal elements on the right for quite some time. The "fairness" and "both sides" argument has been wielded like a weapon to undermine what many liberals believe should be a liberal society."

He's saying that what you're seeing with the press is exactly the opposite of liberalism.

Scott Jun 15

The "left" is far more "right" than the "right" has been lately.

I mean ideologically... they are right wing.

Wow, this reads like a bourgeois manifesto. That's who is behind Antifa, BTW... idle and bored upper to upper-middle class kids who like the rotten offspring of nobility in the past have no future to hope for and so they tear the temple down.

It's always been this way - the ruling class is ALWAYS anarchistic. THEY'RE the ones with a precarious perch... and they are the ones who hate the order and the law because it hampers their mobility.

Why are most of the #resistance participants mostly white, mostly upper-middle to upper class and mostly centered around Ivy League and prestigious, (read as: EXPENSIVE,) colleges?

You and I both know the answer to that question.

These cycles go on and on.

LorriAnn Jun 15

This goes to your earlier point (which i loved) re: academia and the cancer that gets spread there. I read some statistic lately about the racial demographics of students at ivy league schools and was SHOCKED to find Asians make up just 6% (please fact check me on that if you like). The thesis is that because these students tend to be more conservative and generally have more traditional values they are essentially harder to indoctrinate. Also self-described slight right or conservative academics are almost non-existent at most colleges. They just cant get hired.

Mascot Jun 17

"I read some statistic lately about the racial demographics of students at ivy league schools and was SHOCKED to find Asians make up just 6% (please fact check me on that if you like)."

Sure, I'll fact-check that. Why, doing other people's legwork is practically an avocation for me. Students of Asian ethnicity in Ivy League universities:

https://blog.collegevine.com/the-demographics-of-the-ivy-league/

One day, when it becomes a thing for people to start demanding references for every fact claim of political significance made on the Internet, you may have to worry about your credibility, LoriAnn. But for now- party on!

Scott Frasier Jun 17

You have more patience than I do, or more spare time. I usually just ask if someone could dish me something resembling a fact to support what they "have heard".

Not to be to unkind about it, but there may be some correlation between the anger and paranoia online (and lack of economic success perhaps) and the lack of energy devoted to running rumors to ground.

Mascot Jun 13

"The "fairness" and "both sides" argument has been wielded like a weapon to undermine what many liberals believe should be a liberal society."

"Donald Trump's election has accelerated this erosion to the point that those who feel justifiably threatened by him and his supporters are no longer going to be "fair". Only suckers are fair with this crowd."

Fairness is a Principle. Not some political tactic to be jettisoned by high-strung political hacks who imagine that it impairs their effectiveness (as of the most recent poll trend), in favor of "fighting fire with fire." And taking the low road bears no conceptual resemblance to that firefighting tactic. Neither does censorship.

Incredibly, many High Church Democratic Party Partisans justify that abandonment of integrity with Whataboutism. Thereby passing on yet another opportunity to distinguish themselves from the Republican Party skunk-works politics, in favor of doing a half-hearted imitation of it. (Because once fairness- integrity- is discarded, any ad man can lick any college professor.)

Most Americans have been terribly miseducated in this society in regard to both the importance and definition of "debate", as a discipline that rewards knowledge and clear thinking, and exposes ignorance, sloppy thinking, bad logic, mendacity, and manipulation.

But that fact doesn't call for the abandonment of fairness and open discussion, which merely results in allowing everyone to wallow in their double-mindedness and inability to question their own thinking, justified with a pose of moral superiority. No one with a sincere interest in learning to think for themselves can duck out on the responsibility to ask the hard questions, and to do their own self-criticism.

The self-criticism I'm talking about has nothing to do with posturing, public shaming sessions, or group thought control. I'm talking about the real thing.

tom mitchell Jun 13

"Civil War" footing usually is reached by assembling firepower and the skill to use it. Provocation without firepower is short-sighted, at best. To promulgate a Red Guard - Cultural Revolution policy without physical power is like tapping a rattlesnake with a stick. First get the necessary tools, then try to dictate. Get the sequence right.

William R Jun 12

I don't agree with this take, but I admit that I also haven't yet gotten around to reading Taibbi's recent book, which is clearly related.

To use the prominent _Times_ example, I think it's good that employees have more influence in the positions promoted by their paper. I'm surprised that Taibbi would be opposed to democratizing the industry in this way. There will always be perspectives and stories implicitly censored by editing and publishing decisions, as Taibbi and Chomsky have often discussed - why not let the regular employees have a say? Kingsbury didn't even say she would halt a story if someone found it offensive - just that she wanted there to be a discussion.

I also don't think that if an opinion or a belief about a topic is widespread, it should necessarily be covered as news or in editorials. Ironically, I'll probably be condemned and dismissed as a lefty critiquing 'both sides-ism', since Taibbi and his fanbase so often disparage the idea. But I don't see any merit to letting a lead creationist or climate science denier write editorials or push their perspective, even if huge swaths of the population agree with them. Such writers are often willfully trying to manipulate public opinion or sow confusion, and it can do a lot of real damage to magnify their voices. I don't think their posts should be deleted from Twitter and Facebook, but I don't see any value to elevating them to fairly exclusive platforms like major newspapers, with captive audiences and 'reputations'.

There are, of course, times when the 'censorship culture' goes too far. There are cases where bad faith actors try to 'cancel' someone, or good faith actors overreact and do more damage than good. I think I'd agree that Lee Fang falls into that category. But on the whole, it's a good thing that people are trying to hold journalists accountable for their coverage and bias, and it certainly looks to me like there are far more false negatives than false positives in the current reckoning.

No one is advocating silencing all voices that we disagree with. I don't agree with this analysis, but I'm of course not going to rage-cancel my Taibbi sub. But, if most of Taibbi's pieces start to become about how it's okay to shift the dialogue from progressive reform to property damage, because people are worried about property damage, I'd probably cancel eventually. Not because it's an unpleasant opinion, but because I don't think that it's adding usefully to the dialogue. This isn't some kind of threat, and I'm sure that Taibbi wouldn't even notice if I dropped him. But I think that the best thing about newer media models, like SubStack, is that writers are held accountable by the democratic bulk of their readers, rather than editors or business executives. We can each support the reporters, journalists, and writers that we feel are contributing usefully and amplifying important unheard perspectives. I think that's wonderful, and I also think that it's very different than 'censorship'.

Substack Commenter 34 Jun 13

You can pay for whatever media you wan't you just can't call it journalism. You're not paying for journalism, you're paying to have your views reinforced. And, frankly, you're actually paying to have your views weakened by having sweet nothings spoken into your ear. Because what reinforces my opinions about climate change and creationism is that i have the knowledge of what the other side is saying so that i can refute it.

Kate Jun 14

What we need is fewer journalists and more old fashioned reporters.

TheMadKing59 Jun 13

"I don't pay for media that advocates military invasion of my state against my state government wishes when my state is breaking no federal laws, which is the ONLY time it's legal to impose troops that way."

But your state IS breaking federal law. They have allowed Marxist anarchists to carve out a six-block Caliphate in the middle of Seattle. Under Federal Law, that is insurrection. You WILL see that act implemented by Trump if Mayor Durken and Gov, Inslee refuse to act. These Seattle Snowflakes have NO idea what's coming!

M of the L Jun 14

"This isn't just a Columbia Journalism class. I'm NOT a neutral observer. I don't pay for media that advocates military invasion of my state against my state government wishes when my state is breaking no federal laws, which is the ONLY time it's legal to impose troops that way."

Scott, that's journalistic nihilism if I ever saw it. As if reporting on current events, especially by a self-styled Newspaper of Record, something people go back and research decades from now, should be subservient to the demands of one advocacy v. advocacy of a different set of ideals. As far as you're concerned, the publishing of Cotton's piece demonstrates advocacy by the paper, and that's offensive to you. It is their duty, you believe, to avoid actually reporting what an elected official currently in power believes. Instead, it is to write things that act in the interest of what you believe to be the correct moral path forward.

There are many ways to demonstrate how harmful a mindset this is. But maybe if pointed out that the dreaded Fox News takes a similar approach, again relying on paid sponsorship and outrageous divisiveness, I could appeal to your empathy.

You're prioritizing agitprop, advocacy, and activism, over the neutral reporting of reality. Ideas like yours are helping turn the entire political conversation into a two-team football match where no tactic is concerned below the belt.

Scott Jun 15

Let me ask you this: if the KKK somehow rose to power in YOUR city.... and your governor and mayor sat back and pretended "this is fine." you'd be yelling for you party's president to send in the troops and clear them out.

You'd probably even quote Churchill.

You frame every argument in a "this isn't what anyone PAYS for" and don't even realize that the "news" isn't really supposed to be a product you can consume like Coke or Pepsi.

It's the wrong framework.

LorriAnn Jun 14

How many times have i heard "Silence is Violence." So no one can say anything that is counter to the talking points of #BLM or any one of it's sycophantic zombie parrots AND if one says nothing at all or doesn't take a knee to beg forgiveness for not letting someone get in front of them in a lunch line, that person is either a) most definitely RACIST or A Tom. I cant think of more effective ways to silence people short of cutting out their tongues. But then paper and pencils are a possibility unless you cut off their hands and feet but maybe they could use their nose unless you cut that off...

Kate Jun 14

How closed minded you are. You must be very well educated.

Holdfast Jun 12

"No one is advocating silencing all voices that we disagree with." You sure about that?

Postipressionist Jun 13

They are doing it WITHOUT advocating. That's a sign of Fascism squelching any opposing views. This is how it starts.

Chris Sanders Jun 13

William R - to this comment: " I don't think their posts should be deleted from Twitter and Facebook, but I don't see any value to elevating them to fairly exclusive platforms like major newspapers, with captive audiences and 'reputations'." I say, you have not checked the valuations of NYT, Dow/WSJ and other similar publications and news orgs compared the FB, Twitter, et al?There may be an elite few who regard these as our last bastions of Edward R Morrow-esque-public news but they are not. And as Matt points out they are indeed a "captive audiences" but not in the way you might revere. Captivated by a need for information that fits a captive world view (or one that seems ever-shifting to the mood of the loudest crowd). For better or worse leaving the "climate deniers" and "manipulators" on social media is far, far more powerful than censoring them from NYT. At least on NYT, they can be curated, a contrary piece can run along side it, other commentary available. In social media where billions vs millions will see it, a piece will do far, far more toward mis-information and legitimization.

Check Jun 13

"If none of us ever read a book that was "dangerous," had a friend who was "different," or joined an organization that advocated "change," we would all be the kind of people Joe McCarthy wants."

Edward R. Murrow

BBB Jun 13

Mob rule seems to be what your advocating to replace a mechanism that was instituted to report the facts and opinions of the day.

William R Jun 13

I'm sympathetic to your position re: social media regulation, but ultimately I think that it would be inappropriate for the owners / shareholders of user-content platforms like Twitter or Facebook to institute their own censorship policies. As Taibbi has documented in the past, it frequently becomes an unaccountable secret censorship board that scoops up all sorts of legitimate coverage and activism.

The NYT, etc, are inherently curated platforms, but uncurated platforms like Twitter should give everyone an opportunity to engage, without needing to already have power, fame, money, or influence. This seems valuable to me - I don't want a full censorship regime of all social media, where thoughtcrime is suppressed, even if they start by going after people that I consider awful.

Scott Frasier Jun 13

I happen to be an owner of Twitter, although a small one. I have listened to Dorsey explain to shareholders what his goals are for Twitter, and am generally supportive. He is concerned that social media has become more and more anti-social due to the actions of a few who threaten other posters or, in the case of government officials, threaten to violate certain constitutional rights of their constituents.

There is no right to threaten others, on or off a social media platform, and no business such as a Twitter is required to allow such threats to be posted on their platforms. In fact, no law prohibits even stricter filtering of posts, although Dorsey to his credit had limited his intervention much more strictly.

Beyond that, it is my right as a shareholder to have my property managed the way I and other owners choose. If we wish to "clean up" the platform to attract a less strident stream of posters, that is our right. If Facebook (or the FOX commentary shows) chooses to monetize anger at "the Caliphate" or "the War on Christmas" or whatever other right wing nonsense they find profitable, that is their choice.

William R Jun 13

If it was addressed to me, then I hear what you are saying. I used to be very worried about mob rule and tyranny of the majority. But I was convinced otherwise by the writing of authors like Graeber, Chomsky, etc. Opponents of democracy have always used this attack on it, but usually it ends up being about protecting property rights rather than people's civil rights (ex., Madison's opulent minority). Between relying on the mob and relying on a benevolent editor, I favor the former.

David Peers Jun 13

Sounds like you only want to read things you agree with.

William R Jun 13

People keep accusing opponents of the publishing of Cotton's piece of being unwilling to read things that they disagree with. This is an absurd straw man. I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to me that I'm almost constantly reading things that I disagree with. If I stopped reading every outlet, or even every writer, when they published something that I disagreed with, I'd have to give up reading altogether. I've even written things that I later disagreed with!

But everyone has limits about what's acceptable, and they always have. Our own personal 'overton windows', if you like. The only thing that's new about the current uproar is that the censorship is coming from the interns and subscribers rather than the editors and the executives, and I have trouble seeing this as a bad thing.

Scott Frasier Jun 13

Beyond that, William, another thing that is new is that in the past right wing ideology as bound up with ownership of the media. Things are a bit better balanced now and liberals and the so-called Left have more economic and decision making power over how media properties are managed.

In the past, it was the left that complained that they didn't have enough of a voice due to media censorship by corporate owners. Now it is the right that is unhappy. It was the right that eliminated the "fairness doctrine" under Saint Ronald Reagan. It was OK as long as their allies owned the bullhorn. I feel their pain, but only up to a point.

I agree that a subscribe-based discipline is much better than one based on editor opinion. The old cable model required me to pay FOX or MSNBC or CNN whether I wanted to or not. What they pump out is a consumer product as much as a fridge or a car, so I should have a choice about paying them or not.

Unlessround Isfunny Jun 14

Ok, now imagine someone from work read your post, took some personal offense to it, ginned up a mob, got you fired, and then come back and explain again how reasonable this is. I'll wait.

You say that the witch-burning zealotry of progressive thought is not a sign of progressives' inability to recognize the fundamental right of people to hold non-dogmatic views, even though that's exactly what it looks like, and that's exactly what progressives keep telling us they believe. No matter. As long as wrong-thinking people never state their views, and as long as they publicly pledge allegiance to whatever liberal groupthink is then in fashion, then they will be treated as having basic human dignity. It's only when they fail to tow the party line hard enough, or (God forbid) take a contrary position that lose even the most basic common courtesy. And they all know the terms of this Faustian bargain, so the persecution they suffer by breaking it is really their own fault. Rationalize it all you want, but that doesn't me you are giving them a choice. You are giving them the illusion of one so you can blame them for all the misery you made the choice to inflict.

Variations in thought are the natural and necessary result of the human condition, comprised as it is by individuals and not mindless clones. But acknowledging this ambiguity would preempt the self-righteous certainty of conviction so in vogue these days, which is treated as proof of the validity of the same conviction. After all, people wouldn't feel so strongly about their opinions if they weren't so, so right. Rather than give this up and be forced to continually validate what they believe, they've decided to just force everyone else to become one of their clones. Problem solved.

You explain away the totalitarianism of this solution by claiming the clones always had a choice. But you are really just making the right of others to think for themselves contingent upon their willingness to have you do it for them. Human dignity is just a tool for extending your will.

You shouldn't need to see yourself in people in order for them be people. This is the same wrong-headed and offensive view that led to "don't ask, don't tell," but even that gave people the option of just keeping their mouths shut. The "don't tell, even if asked" premise of your approach is something worse.

That said, I'd still work with you, let your kids play with my kids, and let you eat in public without having throngs of idiots scream at your family. Because I believe you can think the wrong thing and still be a person. A good person, even. ;)

Scott Frasier Jun 12

I pretty much agree with this comment. Every "news" source is curated to some extent, and liberals or the so-called Left should be under no special obligation to allow "all" opinions to be published in their publications. The 1st Amendment doesn't require that any private publication publish anything.

I don't know the work of Lee Fang. I think is it generally unwise to bully a journalist to self-censor. I understand the general criticism of the black-on-black crime...

Scott Jun 15

Wall of text to justify what exactly? Upper class bourgeois cunts once again trying to flip the cart over because they think they know better than the "commoners"? These New Victorians are shit.

NanC Jun 12

We are constantly being told we need to engage in a "dialogue" about race. But you can't have a dialogue in a minefield where the slightest misstep sets off a Twitter explosion. This, of course, ends up ticking off the white working class, falling right into the hands of the ruling elites -- both liberal and conservative -- whose greatest fear is that poor whites, blacks and Native Americans will one day discover there Is more that unites than divides them.

Sean McT Jun 12

Thank you for defending Lee and providing greater clarity about what happened. I shared a few classes with Lee in college since we had the same major and distinctly remember him as one of the few people in lecture that actually gave a shit and asked probing questions (many of the other smart students were just gunning for the foreign service and basically took whatever was taught at face value). I'm still a big fan of The Intercept's reporting, but I was disappointed how his colleagues failed to publicly defend him from such a serious and spurious charge.

Rory Jun 12

"Today no one with a salary will stand up for colleagues like Lee Fang." And that's why I just subscribed to your substack, thanks for your indispensable work Matt!

TheMadKing59 Jun 13

Matt, I am an Independent right-leaning voter who often disagrees with your political take on things. Like Glenn Greenwald or Bill Maher, you have been to me like a broken clock that's right twice a day. But I just subscribed to you because this post hits every nail on the head with fearless disregard for the cultural firebombers. And they will come.

But I say to you today the problem is far more widespread than just our Fourth Estate. Actor Hartley Sawyer, aka The Flash (ex-Flash now) has been incinerated on social media and unpersoned over uncharitable texts in his youth about Rev. Al Sharpton and homeless women's breasts. The latter was no doubt a puerile attempt to one-up his similarly immature social media peers. No trial. No appeal. Just burned to the ground like Minneapolis on social media, along with his hit show. Think about that. The CW canceled a hit show out of fear of the SJW mob.

The Terror is back in Hollywood, and no one is safe this time. You don't even get a show trial before the American people. Even worse, our enlightened Culture Police are now in Hollywood editing rooms (HBO in this case) adding mandatory SJW commentary to Gone With The Wind. GWTW has shot up to #1 on Amazon and Blazing Saddles is climbing the ladder. That tells me ordinary Americans don't trust Hollywood to protect our treasured film heritage. How sad and pathetic a statement is that?

Politics are fine in the larger discussion of finding ways to solve social problems. It's how we hash ideas out and improve society. But the trends I am seeing now, and of which you report on here, are more reminiscent of the Soviet-era Pravda. The truth is whatever the State says it is, and even the slightest dissent will be met with ruthless personal destruction and ostracism. I grew up reading William L. Shirer, John Hersey, Peter Maas, Robin Moore, Woodward and Bernstein and many more like them.

They are what real investigative journalists aspire to: following the truth and the story no matter to whom and where it leads, and regardless of politics. Now the political cart leads the journalism horse, and woe betide anyone who says the horse should be in front. I may not always agree with you, Matt, but you've always aspired to teh truth of the matter in all your reporting, and that is enough for me. Keep up the great work!

Sherry Jun 13

The twitter lynch mobs have a great deal to answer for, except they never do answer for it.

TheMadKing59 Jun 13

Crazy times indeed. It is reminiscent of the Hollywood Terror. A tipping point will come when enough people are sickened of their arbitrary and capricious cultural fascism.

Mascot Jun 15

In the meantime, the faux-mo madness rages on https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/olivia-benson-svu-mariska-hargitay-canceled-cops-1014181/

Lekimball Jun 13

1984 -- The writer of Truth rewrites history to fit whatever they want. Read the book. That's the news media today. A warning leftists: Stalin and Hitler controlled the media. It's not TRUMP controlling the media. Or ignoring the truth. And it should scare the hell out of every American.

Tommy Jun 13

Damn man. This was what I (and I imagine many others) need to read right now. I thank you for finally not tiptoeing around the thing I've had to come to grips with myself - that the left has completely lost all credibility and sanity. I only hope others can see through the corporate pandering and corruption that is the DNC in 2020.

John B Jun 12

An excellent piece! Thank you for speaking out against the insanity currently infesting left-wing American newsrooms. Sometimes it feels like the world would be a much better place without Twitter.

Scott Jun 13

The biggest indictment of the press is the fact that I'm reading this on SubStack instead of the NYT.

Horatio Flemm Jun 13

Mr. Taibbi fires a warning shot to alert us that the "instinct (in the American media) to shield audiences from views or facts deemed politically uncomfortable has been in evidence since Trump became a national phenomenon." I would say not "since" -- that vile instinct has merely been more in evidence. The media's fear and hatred for diversity of opinion, for the freedom of speech, has doubtless worsened since President Tweet was heaved onto the throne. But the hatred and fear of free speech have been lovingly cultivated for years; they are now blossoming.

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Mascot Jun 15

I'm thankful that there's more to the Internet news media than Facebook, and more to Internet discourse than Twitter. I participate in neither one. And frankly, their management decisions don't worry me overly much.

It was always clear to me that the Facebook news feed works as a reducing valve that's engineered to tell people only what they want to hear, as if they were monarchs pampered by a retinue of sycophantic courtiers. I could never quite get to do that.

And even with the character count doubled from 140 to 280 characters, Twitter is like something for fifth-graders. Yet the users continue to express bewilderment when their pithy three-sentence observations are misinterpreted or misunderstood, sometimes spiraling into acrimonious exchanges for pages on end...

Todd Waterman Jun 12

Another tremendous piece. Lee Fang has done excellent work and it sickens me that he is forced to submit to the Orwellian mob that is destroying our country. Keep up the great work Matt and do not let them silence you. I am afraid they'll come for you soon...

J JVS Jun 12

At the risk of sounding melodramatic this article singlehandedly saved me from totally giving up on the media. Taibbi, Greenwald, Andrew Sullivan, etc. are the last stand for the proud classical liberal tradition.

Sean Carson Jun 13

Chris Hedges, too....

Adele 18 hr

You say: "Lacy to her credit publicly thanked Fang for his statement and expressed willingness to have a conversation; unfortunately, the throng of Intercept co-workers who piled on her initial accusation did not join her in this."

To her credit? Matt, why so generous? You are rewarding Lacy for doing a horrible thing. This is like the irritating cherry on top of a pile of poisoned shit. She chose to first light the match and throw it onto what she surely knew was a pile of gas-soaked kindling. Fang gets torched by the mob-inferno she incited, then SHE gets an apology from Fang???!!! THEN she says she's willing to have a conversation, ie, the petty princess deigns... while watching her colleague get his job threatened for .... doing his job well? Well, well... hell. This is hell.

I didnt know of him or her till I saw this, but I'm afraid he can never really write (well) again unless he disavows his apology, speaks out against the wrong committed against him, and leaves the Intercept. Of course. They, the mob around and at the Intercept, have publicly and privately bullied and humiliated him for doing a very good job, for succeeding where they fail! And then they put him on notice that any further success of this sort (truth in reporting, meaningful truth, that offends their sacred fictitious narrative) will not be tolerated. All because a spoiled brat black person flings "racist" at him. What incredibly toxic power for a word that is increasingly losing its meaning. What a sad, sad, terribly sad story. Sad ending.

Guys, roll this one out and hitch it onto the rest. Another one for the chain. Next?

Jack Clancy Jun 12

Clarity, thoroughness, balance and reason. This is what I have grown to expect from you and you deliver it every time. In the darkest hours before dawn it is most difficult to imagine that journalism will one day have a rebirth. You give us a small measure of hope.

noname Jun 13 Liked by Matt Taibbi

I signed up For you, because of this piece. It's extraordinary. Please keep writing about this. What's appropriate is that you can't be cancelled Because of the way substack works. So this is the perfect place for you to do it (and i say this as a former journalist).

JPZenger Jun 13

This piece prompted me to subscribe too. I've followed Matt's work for a couple of years. In a world where the NYT wins Pulitzers by being loudly and consistently wrong on the biggest stories of our time, it's good to know there are still a few actual journalists out there.

Bea South Jun 12

The American press used to be a fearless bulwark against tyrants; now it imposes tyranny. The American left used to ensure liberal ideals and free expression of thought; now it's the second coming of the Jacobin Club. The only institution with any credibility is the military and that is very worrisome

Check Jun 13

Matt, I doubt you and I will ever agree politically. But your writing is great and needed. I look forward for the day that this column becomes the new New York Times. The only major news outlet that I'm aware of that is still remotely objective is the Wall Street Journal.

So there is a need for real reporting. Without the threat of being fired if you annoy or insult someone.

Big Wally Jun 14

Hey Matt- I know you have to write what you feel you need to write but I would think the reaction to this piece ought to be eye opening. You have hit a major artery here. So many intelligent and reasonable people who have felt silenced by the crushing conformity of liberals feel like we've heard a voice in the wilderness. I don't subscribe to anything but I subscribed to this. Please understand that there is a sizable portion of the population who are fucking sick of being insulted by today's dogshit media.

Lekimball Jun 13

That's bologne. Cotton is not a psychopath and he didn't advocate using the military against peaceful protestors like they lied about -- he suggested it should be done if these governors couldn't stop the killing, looting, and violence. It should be a last resort. But it should be a threat if they don't stop doing it.

All the American people were for prosecuting Chauvin--and they are. So the rest of this has nothing to do with Floyd and it shouldn't be tolerated. It isn't about "buildings"--it's about LIVES. People's lives and livelihoods. And it's about black police chiefs who have a right to live just like Floyd does. No outrage about that. That is what Cotton is talking about.

Takes4Dayz Jun 13

Read Manufacturing Consent and get back to me on if the NYT are good framers of the discourse...

LorriAnn Jun 16

Take a look at what's happening in the Merry Ole Land of CHAZ. Its a mob shake down complete with the worst of everything that last week its citizens decried. Armed enforcers, stop and frisk-like policies and this is def not anything at all like the brutal "terrorist" Seattle PD slaughtering black children in the schools (thanks Ilhan Omar)

Scott Jun 15

I love how Bill and Hillary Clinton garnered support for and implemented one of the absolute worst crime bills in US history but somehow 2016 was HER turn.

Fucken nightmare land

Andre Jun 13

I have been reading your work for almost a year but subscribed right away after reading this articele.

What is frightening to me is that people who are supposed to be a smart do not understand that they are not only destroying the press, they are destroying the country. What is even more frightening is that their hate of Trump makes them blind to anything else. He will be gone on less then one year, OK maybe in 5 years but the destruction of federal institutions, and the death of credible media will define America.

I am an immigrant from a communist country and I believe that Soviet style communism was worse it terms of its brutality, but not as morally damaging as this voluntary march to serfdom that I see in modern America.

And the enablers, like Jeff Bezos for example, who thinks that if he get to his knees fast enough nobody will ask him about the work conditions in Amazon warehouses, these people make me really sick.

Scott Jun 15

It's yet ANOTHER bourgeois "rebellion". Here again to tear shit down and become the assholes they hate.

Starry Gordon Jun 12

I agree with most of what you have written here, but it's sort of like having a food fight on the upper decks of the Titanic. The American ruling class has deteriorated to the point where it cannot keep itself afloat, and is thrashing around as it sinks, while other actors are maneuvering to take its place. The Cotton thing -- which I have read was solicited by the _Times_ -- regardless of what it literally said, was certain to be read as a call for the military to attack people exercising their rights of assembly and expression, and could have been reasonably interpreted as fighting words, except I guess hardly anyone reads any more.

Scott Jun 12

The Cotton Op-Ed was solicited by the NYT and it went through several iterations as a part of the editorial process. It is also worth noting that Cotton did not write the headline.

jbmoore61 Jun 12

I was surprised Lee Fang was in trouble for doing his job because a colleague was uncomfortable. Guess he'll be finding other employment. This is all so sad. We need good journalism now. It's an election year, there's a pandemic, and an economic depression happening all at once. But, we won't get any issues, or data, or anything. It'll be doublespeak, political correctness, mob chanting, and God knows what. There's no air travel, so there's no quick escape from this bullshit and madness.

Joshua Reaser Jun 12

What a wild situation! It seems like no one cares. That last bit about reporters being too scared to talk about the fear in their own news room! Wow!

next.20.yrs@gmail.com Jun 12

Hope this is incorrect, but I deduce that Glenn Greenwald did not speak up for Fang. That is disappointing.

Mascot Jun 14

A while ago, I decided to stop indulging in judging people based on nothing more than what they haven't said, or haven't done. There's a latent totalitarianism in implicitly demanding that everyone make a public statement to take a side about everything. Especially, like, five minutes after some event happens.

next.20.yrs@gmail.com Jun 14

Personally, if I were attacked in the way Fang was by many of his co-workers and others ("get him"), I would not be so generous with a colleague I knew disagreed with the bullying but stood silent. I have no idea what was going on in GG's life at the time and make no accusations (or judgments) that he stood by silently (but would be quite disappointed if he did so for lack of bravery). While so many were able to pile on Fang, there was time to know what was happening and time to defend him. Why was he left blowing in the wind by everyone? Too many, those who are well-known and those we never hear about, are being attacked by the mob while those who could defend them don't. Silence can indeed be violence.

Mascot Jun 14

It's been ten days. Arguably, that doesn't even qualify as enough time to refer to the incident in the past tense.

Also, if you've ever waded into these disputes, you know how exhausting they can be: the sheer imperious pettiness and pique of the most vehement Cancel Culture advocates, cloaked in self-ordained moral superiority. Their use of baiting comments, sarcasm, imputations of motive, tacit assumptions offered with no support (other than an isolated data point of two). The micro-scrutiny of every last verbal construction found in a dissenting response, in order to find language that they can exploit with interpretations contrived to support their position and make the opposition wrong. The demand for "dialogue", coupled with an insistence on unconditional agreement on practically every point of their personal views. The incomprehension of the possibility that a movement claiming to champion democratic values, civil liberties, and justice makes a mockery of its own credibility when so much of its Internet discourse resembles a Maoist self-criticism session directed by whoever hurls the most vitriolic rhetoric for the purpose of mandating conformity with their capricious whims.

The main result of these purges and attempts at intimidation within the ranks is the increased marginalization of the political movements who engage in them. Any potential "ally" who notices what they're in for if they offer any deviationist views or observations- or even casually phrased language that might possibly be interpreted contain some latent "insensitivity"- as a member of the movement quickly realizes that they're better off declining to participate. I don't know how many otherwise sympathetic people the coercive justice warriors are losing with their high-handed attitudes, but it's a non-trivial number.

As for the mockers on the right- who hand-wave away the very idea of the continued existence of of antiblack racism- they get to have a field day in their reportage on these fiascos. Especially the more they're protracted.

I don't blame Glenn for laying out, at least until the media teapot tempest dies down and matters can be better sorted out.

next.20.yrs@gmail.com Jun 14

If the mob comes for me, I hope I have allies who will bravely and forcefully defend me in the moment, rather than wait until things are "sorted out." The Lee Fang incident, as far as I can tell, was a very clear cut instance of gratuitous bullying and he had no one who came to his defense. I do not understand why and maybe there is a very good reason but I do wish Glenn would address this.

Skeptic Jun 14

As a general proposition, yes, but The Intercept is GG's baby.

Mascot Jun 14

My impression is that the editorial functions of the Intercept are carried out with a lot less rigor and control than those of the NY Times. And while Glenn is on the masthead as one of the editors there, I don't think he takes an especially active role in that regard. For that matter, much of The Intercept reads more like the blogs on Huffpost than, say, Mother Jones magazine.

Scott Jun 15

Bourgeois virtue signalling.

LorriAnn Jun 15

Its when i abandoned Greenwald

Substack Commenter 34 Jun 13

Yes what's up with that. Although Greenwald's life has to be sickening right now given what he and his family have faced from Bolsonaro.

Donald Twain Jun 13

Is that indeed true? Wow

Kate S Jun 14

Thank you, thank you so much. I've feel as though I've been pulling out my hair for weeks attempting to articulate to friends and peers what you've thoughtfully laid out. You're certainly not alone in the realization. Long time reader/listener but the stones it takes to call this one like it is just forced me to sub in support.

Science Does Not Care Jun 13

Ideologues have always been dangerous, always delusional, and always present in media, even esteemed publications. But the modern media insanity, which started before 2016, perhaps derives from a different trend: the 21st century safety culture.

To borrow from Lukianoff and Haidt, I suggest we are seeing the result of social and institutional coddling over the past few decades. The voices who now express pain and anguish over disagreeable opinions, and demand not just ideological conformity but personal safety, are the same ones who also demanded safe spaces and just plain non-challenging experiences as they came of age (?) in US colleges. Their core values and criteria are much more about perceived risk and discomfort than about free speech and challenging thought (or even about straight-up propaganda--these sensitive souls really do fear some words and ideas).

And where do many of the strident young press corps come from? Perhaps these same coddling institutions, with newly minted degrees in humanities, social science, and politics (the ideological biases there are another topic). Of course they demand to silence uncomfortable voices; they have learned that ethic since they could read.

TheMadKing59 Jun 13

It's all about ideology. You saw the same trends in Communist revolutions. Students turning in their teachers, even their parents, for ideological blasphemy and nonconformity. Not the road I hoped American would be taking in the 21st Century.

Mascot Jun 13

Let's be clear: the terms "ideology" and "ideologue" refer to all ideologies and ideologues, not just those identified with the Left.

Scott Jun 15

...and yet, here we are.

Scott Jun 15

Pfff. nothing new under the sun....

The bourgeois have been ruining everyone's lives since the middle ages. They have no future, no jobs and all those degrees... What ELSE could they do?

"Giacomo" Jim Frimmel Jun 13

Matt, in the value-for-value spirit of the No Agenda podcast, I dropped cash for the subscription. This article alone is worth it. Thank you.

I find myself deleting whole drafts of emails and tweets out of fear. I yearn for some end-time prophet who might fearlessly speak truth for us. Then I realize folks like you are all we've got. And I sigh, "It would have been enough" ... still early days I suppose.

Postipressionist Jun 12

Matt, I'm so glad you've gone journalistically independent. You're free, and FEARLESS.

Bruce Lesnick Jun 13

Excellent, much needed article. But one elephant in the room isn't mentioned at all: trans rights activists and their allies in the media who seek to silence anyone who believes in biology and that biological sex is real and meaningful. It goes way beyond J K Rowling. See https://off-guardian.org/2020/02/12/are-you-now-or-have-you-ever-been-a-believer-in-biological-sex/

Cara MariAnna Jun 13

Thank you for adding Patrick Lawrence in your paragraph about the despicable shenanigans at The Nation - a once venerable magazine. His report published Aug, 9 2017 - https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/ - was met with immediate hostility and concerted attacks by the DNC and their surrogates working at The Nation. Within months Lawrence, a veteran reporter was gone. That his reporting proved to be true and accurate matters not. I've long marveled at the silence surrounding this incident.

Donald Twain Jun 13

I'm now a subscriber. Beautifully expressed and argued, a balm to this fellow Gen X-er's mind.

AHamilton Jun 15

Keep going Matt. Each one of your pieces is making history. Thank God there are still a few good journalists out there. Just none at the NY Times.

Scott Jun 16

lol When the power goes out for good, all of this will vanish.

We'd better get this down on parchment or STONE.

Z. E. Jun 13

I don't know under which rock I was living but I'm glad to have discovered your writing, Matt. This is such a refreshing perspective.

don lovell Jun 13

The media / press has long been nonobjective. It hides (doesn't report) what it doesn't want people to see, and pushes the progressive agenda like good little lap dogs. It's not journalism it's democrat propaganda.

Ann Jun 12

This is one of your best pieces; it's right up there with the Vampire Squid. Thanks for writing it.

todd smith Jun 12

Well said! All of this policing of opinion has gotten out of hand, which goes hand-in-hand with the de-platforming phenomenon on the Net. Really, it's like the latest brand of censorship, and censorship is trending pretty hard these days. The irony seems to be that for all the finger-pointing pontifications out there about Racism and racists, Racism appears to be alive and sickeningly well. What's up with that? I get tearing down offensive statues, for example, but the thing that those statues represent does not thereby vanish; in fact, it may become even more insidiously powerful by being rendered "invisible," like a virus. It seems that the Racial Virus has mutated, and "cancel culture" may be an effect of this mutation...

Cara MariAnna Jun 12

Thanks for this. You just got a new subscriber.

Skeptic Jun 14

I'm hoping there will be a preference cascade of people switching their subscriptions from NYT and WaPo to Matt. He's taking risks, and he deserves the rewards.

Alden Jun 13

Matt, thank you once again for opening the windows and blowing the stink out of the room. You are a light in a dark and depraved world. I live in Appalachia, right on the Tennesssee/NC border. We have an underground railroad here of northerners running the hell away from the craziness.

I actually make my 15 year old read your stuff, and Michael Goodwin, Maureen Dowd, Ben Shapiro, to name a few others. It was important to me to show him that you, as a progressive or whatever you classification you fit, are able to be honest, insightful, unafraid, and WILLING to stand up against an army of swords with just your pen and intellect. Anyway, I told my teenager that you and I don't see things (in some cases) the same way, BUT, the mere fact you present your reporting with such ferocity towards the truth, it must be considered, sifted through, and respected. It's inspiring!

By the way, get your ass back on Rogan's podcast dude. We need to hear from you again in that forum!

Ilja B Jun 13

Excellent article!

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is an important principle is all but lost today.

As for NYT and most of the media publications, probably a good slogan is "All the News That's Fit the Narrative".

TheMadKing59 Jun 13

All of the News To Print That Fits.

KC Jun 13

thank you thank you thank you. I've sent this to everyone I know who I feel might be ready for some journalism. Also I subscribed.

J JVS Jun 12

Thank you Matt...you are doing a huge service to the country and free thinkers left or right. As Orwell said, "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

Ben Jun 12

Subscribed. $40/year is a bargain. Paying nyt customer since 2002. Had enough. Thank you Matt. Please let us know how we can continue to support.

ROBERT BEERBOHM Jun 18

I just took out a subscription here at substack. I long had one at Rolling Stone mainly just to read your articles, Matt. Some years ago I sat next to your father Mike on an airplane going from point A to point B. (Chicago to LA?) I'm 68 as of yesterday. This was when you were first beginning RS. I had bought an ish with a Semi-cover feature mention of you in a Hudson News. I picked it up, looked at the article, said, "yep," made my plane ride read purchase, got on the plane, but then Mike mentioned that I was reading his son's work. And what did I think?

Needless to say I have been a huge fan of your pop's for decades. Murrow Awards mean a lot in my world view of journalism. We talked of Tuskegee Airmen for a bit. We delved into (re)discussing the Pentagon Papers made public by Daniel Ellsberg (as we discussed the protests in the streets of America in the 60s). It was a hard pill for me to swallow back then every Prez since Truman on up was a Liar about Viet Nam.

By Aug 1972 being all of 20 years old with a couple like age friends we opened one of the very first comic book stores in the world at 2512 Telegraph Ave near UC-Berkeley campus. People's Park was across the street around the corner. Many homeless messed up Viet Vets were trying to re-assimilate to life back in the States. Similar to the Mid East Vets who are committing suicide at record numbers once again.

It is and always has been the 1% vs the rest of us. I see it as the .1 of 1% controls the 1% who controls the upper 10% who control the rest of us. That seems to be history's game plan for those who harbor superiority narcissistic tendencies

All these labels on people being tossed around these days describing this or that person as being a so & so this or that has been getting a mite confusing of late. Not just in levels of who we think we are, but where we think we came from. And where we as a nation might be going.

Similar to your father's background, at one point I was married to a half Japanese half black women born in Tokyo in the late 1950s. We lived in Oakland Calif. We have two kids who are all three major "races" inside what I used to describe as a mini United Nations. My 2nd wife had an earlier daughter whose father was black who came out darker. My two have skin tone of President Obama. I had earlier married a white lady so my oldest daughter fits that category.

My oldest daughter soon saw and experienced when they all went into stores together that she was being treated 'differently' than her siblings. And she came to a juncture in her figuring life out to me asking "why" do the store owners follow her sisters but not her?

That all said, it comes back to the 1% who seek to divide, wedge to conquer.

Matt, for what it is worth, I have long seen you as a "leader" in the journalism world. Seeking Truth and Speaking to Power.

I do not "see" much of anything changed in the media of the past half century (and my history studied tell me such propaganda has existed for eons, actually. The tech delivery systems change and evolve is all.

The 1% "own" most of the media. The internet profusion of Bots is real. During 2016 I must have blocked over 100 Rooskie Bots on my FB page which I have wide open as I conduct historical research into the origins of what we have come to call comic strip books.

And politics in the first century beginning Sept 14 1842 thru till the USA advent of World War Two 1941 saw all sorts of politics, racial slurs and depictions, aimed at damn near every group possible. Then the WW2 comic books began to portray all Japanese and German Italians as the most evil lost souls on the planet.

This is part of my book am finishing I call Comic Book Store Wars. My long time friend Art Spiegelman (Maus Pulitzer) agreed to write one of the Introductions. I well remember when the first 3 pages of MAUS were published in Funny Aminals #1 in 1972. It came out just a few months before we opened that first Comics & Comix store. I watched my friend delve into his passions of telling Truth.

I am in full agreement with Max that black on black murder is more numerically than cops killing black people. Then again, so far (still) by sheer force of numbers whites killing whites is also up there as high - more so even.

I have studied the 1800s extensively as I work on this 175+ year history of the business of comics, comic strips, comic books in America. Also the 1700s in America as there were broadsides published with comic strips. One huge sheet of paper. The racist images I have absorbed became down right depressing.

Also, even much more so (because it is simply easier) the 20th century. I was especially blown away as I discovered the concept of Eugenics originates more so in America. That AH guy in Nazi Germany said many times his ideas for a "master" race came from America.

Oliver Stone bought comic books from me out of my Haight Ashbury store. His book and 12 episode Untold History of the United States is must viewing for every one. His is just one of at this point a ga-zillion documentaries teaching what came before we were born.

Bringing up Max's thoughts expressed by Mr Fang, yes, there is a whole lot of blood letting going on. I also have a son who I am terrified is going to be shot by "peace" officers for walking while black. I witness that in Oakland more than once. I wish I had not.

To me, it wasn't so much that white cop killed George Floyd - and I hasten to emphasize how horrific that was to watch for 8:46 minutes.

It was the f*ucked look in that cop's eyes. He murdered with impunity. He looked directly into that 17 year old woman's camera phone. Made eye contact. That POS knew exactly what he was doing. It was a public lynching with out the rope. Cold Blooded.

THAT is why the outrage has finally taken to the streets. Me, personally, I subscribe to Ghandi and MLK lines of thought. And we need to teach the children better. Or, maybe they are teaching older lost souls it is over due time to change.

I ask you and every other reporter journalist out there maybe it is time to teach the tenets of this timeless song. My favorite version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5AuFDHdrrg

JPZenger Jun 13

Brilliant piece! The press has become essentially a secular Church Lady. And, like the Moral Majority before them, their influence will wane as they become more stridently narrow-minded.

Scott Jun 15

Populism is the new punk

HobbesForPrez Jun 13

While I disagree with Matt on politics, in this we are in full agreement. We are supposed to be able to agree to disagree, but that seems long gone. I pay $5 a month to Matt in the hopes that Substack will grow and displace traditional media, where brave journalists like Matt will continue to write what they think without fear of the Thought Police.

PRZ Jun 13

Thanks Matt. I stay out of most social media and have avoided making comments but had to say I am happy to see that your approach (like Joe Rogan) is working out (I hope). Anyway, I'm a subscriber and appreciate your efforts.

David Eason Jun 12

Who fights for truth and resists power must be willing to sacrifice all. Otherwise, you will not only say 2 + 2 = 5, you will believe it.

Big Wally Jun 14

Wow! A "journalist" with the balls to call out what passes for media these days. The ones that have abdicated any sense of integrity in favor of pushing a narrative and condemning anyone who dissents. It is the most dangerous development in the history of this country and is frightening to contemplate where this is headed.

I remember my high school civics teacher saying "Though I may disagree completely with what someone says, I will defend to my death the right for them to say it." Gee, how quaint huh?

I also remember Eisenhower saying to beware of the Military-Industrial Complex, which he was right about but today the bigger threat is the Education-Media-Political Complex where students are indoctrinated and not educated and they pass into media jobs who are conveniently exploited by liberal politicians. Works like a charm to create an echo chamber.

Caek Islove Jun 18

Just subbed due to this piece. Keep on telling the truth!

Mike Jun 13

Failure of the press has literally killed thousands of people in the last few months. It is the presses obligation to inform the public of the most important news of the day. The various organs of the media keep bureaus or at least agents in the important centers of the world. And where there is real and obvious danger, it is there job and obligation to bring this to the public's attention. One would expect them to find and present voices which can inform and shape responses to that danger. Now if the press had been willing to report on what was happening in Wuhan Before the 5th of February with the emphasis on the real events occurring there during January it would have been more than obvious that we had a potentially world wide crises rapidly developing. Had that been done the American public, even the world's public, might have insisted that their Congress and Executive branch act on this with the seriousness it deserved. Why did they fail. Maybe because there was only one story fit to print, the Impeachment of Donald Trump. However, at least some reporters and editors must have been informed of those events. Were those papers so enthralled with the impeachment story that their attention could not be spared. Perhaps, there was concern that it might draw attention away from this most important, though preordained failed, event, which was central to the very popular and enthralling narrative of the malfeasance and failure of DJT. Or even perhaps, impeachment was drawing so many clicks and hence advertising dollars, that it would have been financially imprudent to turn the reportage to a story developing in a distant land, no matter how potentially devastating. Interestingly, it reminds me of the War Bond rallies during the Spanish Flu. The pursuit and marshaling of support for WWI was considered to be far more important than the threat of a pandemic which ultimately killed far more than the war.

Scott Frasier Jun 14

It's a bit off base to blame the media for not emphasizing Covid 19 in January and early February. The media usually follows the lead of the federal government on important matters, or at least matters important to the government. They followed impeachment because the Congress was tied up with it, and to a lesser extent Trump.

The real question you should ask is: where was the government itself on Covid 19 at the time. All the principal actors in the government had been briefed by late January about the seriousness of the epidemic. Many of the public health agencies were raising alarms about countermeasures and PPE and other supply issues.

Trump and his son-in-law apparently didn't want to believe the experts. Members of Congress of both parties stayed silent about what they knew and some seemed more interested in reallocating their portfolios than in alerting their constituents, with the exception of large donors in private meetings. Where was the press conference featuring Pelosi or Schumer or Burr or McConnell raising the issue?

The news media doesn't do investigations anymore, if they ever did. They follow the urgency of government. They started paying attention when the market started crashing and the state governors became concerned. You may wish the press was more proactive, but that is almost never the case.

Mike Jun 15

"The media usually follows the lead of the federal government on important matters, or at least matters important to the government. " Yes. just like WMDs. Glad you think the 4th estate's job is to focus on the government's interests. Obviously, you have read Taibbi's work "Hate, Inc." As he noted, the 4th estate is objective and apolitical and with their world wide network of bureaus and stringers exist only to discuss the news that the political parties, I mean corporate owners, oops, sorry the US gov. promotes. What is most encouraging is that the media has explained to me, that if we only get rid of Trump, the world will be a place of beauty and light. Look over there, it is that nefarious DJT!, ignore the fellow behind the curtain. I am so grateful to have Pelosi and Schumer as alternatives, who are providing support to the workers who have lost their livelihood, and the small closed business which are unlikely to come back. I think their taking advantage of this crisis to ram thru, at least temporarily, Medicare for all and a Universal Basic Income shows their level of concern. They understood that the waitress's rent would be due immediately, and feeding her children could not wait. Their rush to pass the HEROES act would take care of all the desperate problems of the unemployed, not to speak of those poor lobbyists and land lords whose income is drastically reduced. They had learned, after 2008 that in the heat of the panicked moment, a rush to pass a midnight bill, unread by anyone might result in a lot of money thrown fruitlessly at the wrong people. Of course large corporations, financial institutions and banks are also heavily impacted. But, Pelosi, as one of the richest women in America, is particularly situated to realize that a few months wait would not be disastrous to those in that strata. She understood, that, unlike the newly unemployed, the 1% of the 1% have the financial resources to allow time to carefully craft a plan that would not be frivolous or misguided. .

Scott Frasier Jun 15

" Glad you think the 4th estate's job is to focus on the government's interests. "

Instead of having a knee-jerk reaction to something I wrote, you might have tried to digest what was actually written. I was stating a sad fact about the "news media", NOT my wishes.

I don't disagree with most of what you have written. The elites have utterly failed to look out for the populace. They have stuffed gobs of money into the financial system to bail out bad corporate debt, and made the rest of the population beg for crumbs. I happen to have been a big beneficiary of this largess to stockholders, but I recognize it for what it is: looting.

I don't know your politics, but it seems like it is somewhat progressive. We have bad choices right now. A crackpot populist who won't even deliver on some of the legitimate concerns he exploits, and a member of the same neoliberal gang that will not change.

All I was pointing out is that the so-called 4th Estate is a business, and has always been one. If all you do as a citizen is consume their product and watch their paid ads to determine who to vote for, you won't get anywhere. You need to understand the issues and the candidates for what and who they really are.

I'm old enough to have become disillusioned about democratic change with an ignorant population that watches TV and has a Facebook account. I lose most elections. Instead, I work the system as it is and make my life. I didn't invent or vote for neoliberal financial capitalism, but it has been with me all my life, so I take my share because otherwise I leave it on the table for the same rich guys who own the rest of it.

Rich McConville Jun 13

I confess that I was wondering what you were up to. I am pleased that you were working on this story. It needs to be told. You da man!

Brian Lund Jun 12

🔥 🔥 🔥

You just got a new subscriber from a fellow Substack author.

Thanks for writing this Matt.

Alex Kline Jun 12

Thanks Matt. I suspected exactly these ridiculous shenanigans when I read about Bennet's firing.

Mitchy Jun 12

thank you again

Anthony Jun 15

Sad to see the Intercept capitulate to cancel culture and for throwing him under. They have been getting a little ridiculous in force feeding narratives and not allowing you to critically think

Jen Jun 14

Great article. So miffed at the negative responses around, many proving the case in what you wrote about.

As an Australian following from afar the last few years, it's quite remarkable to see discourse plays out in the US...every opinion or side of even the most frivolous issues instantly boxes you in to red or blue.

I've found it quite amusing to be called both a Republican Trumper and Snowflake Liberal in response to a comment or question I might post on an issue. There seems to be no middle ground, no conversation and a collectivism approach to judging someone's stance.

I've seen some commentary trying to box you in as a 'contrarian' now. The landscape surely is flipped on its head.

As a parent, it's horrifying to think rational discussion is critically endangered.

I had seen you on Joe Rogan over the years and found your observations pretty sound. Perhaps not having the filters of a political dogma provides readers like me an easier path in appreciating them.

Thankyou and happy to be a new subscriber.

Lekimball Jun 13

I don't agree with everything Matt says because despite Donald Trump's moments of insanity, I'm not sure he isn't all that stands between us and fascism,--the Republicans usually roll over and won't stand up to these people -- but I have to applaud Matt's courage because what I am most upset about is the lack of media integrity and they're refusing to tell the truth. The media is just the arm of the progressive Marxist left as Matt says. The Obama administration weaponized our justice department and none of the media would report it, as Matt says. They irresponsibly went after Kavanaugh as Matt says. They publish Vladimir Putin and terrorists but not a US senator with a valid point of view supported by a huge majority of the American people (AND they lie later about what Cotton said). Any means justify their ends of getting rid of Trump and it does not. Their cancel culture and censorship and omission of the truth is more dangerous than any one president could ever be. The only thing that I hold out hope for is that Matt is right and all this backfires and re-elects Trump--we have no choice. Matt understands what's at stake here even if he's no Trump fan, so I just spent money to support the first Democrat reporter in my lifetime who dared to tell t he truth. Good for you, Matt.

Mascot Jun 14

" The media is just the arm of the progressive Marxist left'

utterly incoherent. And emblematic of the muddled bilateral cognitive paralysis that passes for your political point of view, unfortunately.

Alden Jun 13

Great post!

Skeptic Jun 13

Matt, I just subscribed. I've been following your work since Moscow days. You're doing a great service to our country, and you're one of the few writers reaffirming a common ground that both left and right in this country should be able to accept. God help us if they don't.

tom mitchell Jun 13

OK, folks: Dwight Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to usher 9 students into a local high school in 1957. Tell me why he would have been wrong to do that in your state under the same circumstances.

Scott Frasier Jun 13

He wouldn't be wrong today to do the same thing. However, he did it because the government of Arkansas was explicitly refusing to obey federal law established by a unanimous SCOTUS ruling.

Where is that federal law or Supreme Court ruling that state governors are violating in this situation? Only in the imagination of Donald Trump.

tom mitchell Jun 13

One factor that links all the "Weird" phenomena -- a tidal rise in Careerism. Stick with me on this: Millennials now range in age from 24 to 40. The "best and brightest" of them graduated college into a nasty jobs market. Except for a few brief periods here and there, the markets for smart, young college graduates have been miserable since 2007, and they are even much worse in 2020. Of all the social upheavals in history, GENERATIONAL and CAREER stimuli have played a major part. Think 1848 in Europe or 1968 around the world. The Russian Revolution would have been impossible without Trotsky's speeches in 1905 and 1917-18, yet the final winner was the committed careerist Stalin. Examine the Arab Spring or Prague 1968 and Poland 1980. Major forces in every case were rising generations of smart, educated young people who could not find jobs that gave them enough power and/or financial freedom. In the face of these forces, Matt, I'd argue that anything that resembles traditional values or principles simply becomes irrelevant to the privileged mobs -- because they are "window-dressing"in contrast to the powerful urges of individual ambitions and desires -- or hopes and dreams , or wishes and hungers. The RAW NEED of the rising generation makes all arguments pointless. Give them the power and money and go away. Their own moral artifices are just to caver their naked Neediness. Which they genuinely feel.

J JVS Jun 13

Joel Kotkin has a good book on this

Jamie Thomson Jun 13

As a journalist of 25 years, I wasn't in any way shocked that Bennett was sacked. He didn't even read the op-ed. Total dereliction of duty for something that was always going to be contentious (which they knew, otherwise why would they have solicited a piece from Cotton?) It's the 21st century - it's not like they had to courier over proofs to his beach house while the back bench were sat around the phone, drumming their fingers as the first edition deadline loomed ever closer.

Ditto Stan Wischowski. Strip away all the windy, self-serving tenets about speaking truth to power and providing a dispassionate window onto the world that journalists like to bandy about, and you are left with one golden rule (mostly thanks to Rupert Murdoch): Know what the punter wants. 'Buildings matter, too' is such a tone-deaf glob of reactionary horseshit (regardless of what polls say. Since when have they become a fait accompli, Matt?) I can only imagine the reactions of the rest of Wischowski's staff when he said that, no, despite all their protestations, this was definitely what they should go with. Print and be damned! (In fact, I've seen with my own eyes editors railroading through terrible ideas like this, and then some lowly copy editor being forced to carry the can for it because they're the one that sent the page, so - if anything – in the case of the Inquirer, it was quite refreshing to see a higher-up actually get the boot for once.)

The Lee Fang case is absurd though. The only thing more ridiculous than the liberal left's reflexive rejection of black-on-black crime as a talking point is Fox News et al's adoption of it as a whataboutery tactic to counter charges of systemic racism in policing. Aside from the many times police have actually murdered black people, I can't think of a better example to highlight institutional racism than law enforcement's complete abandonment of effective policing in black communities, and replacing it with continual harassment and some low-level drug arrests when the quotas demand it. (The early chapters in Jill Leovy's Ghettoside lay this out perfectly. LAPD officers had a habit of recording black-on-black violent crimes under the acronym NHI - 'No Human Involved'. Nice, eh?)

That the left has allowed the braying quislings of Fox etc to hijack this travesty for their own ends, and then be dragged into pointless naysaying as a result, is a searing indictment of their own impotence.

Mattykelly Jun 13

Years ago I found this quote on a game box.

"When the effort to follow the rules exceeds the benefits of playing, people start to look for a different game"

There is just so much bullshit a person can take. Senator McCarthy, do have no dignity.

Will Van Allen Jun 12

Great article, Matt. You captured a lot of my own frustrations with the left, the media and the strange zeitgeist of cancel culture we find ourselves in. The only winners here are those who exploit fear, and one of the best of all time is currently in the Oval, and, despite my liberal friends vehement denouncement to the contrary (and shunning/shouting me down for having escaped the cult) I do fear he may retain his crown another term.

Keep up the great work, it is vital and tremendously appreciated.

J JVS Jun 12

My guess is Matt left Rolling Stone because he was enough of a gentleman to know that they'd be unable/unwilling to support him.

Dennis Rosenberg Jun 12

New subscriber, I appreciate the opportunity to support your unfettered voice, more important than ever as typified by your latest piece.

Scott Duncan Jun 12

Bravo

Antipodean Jun 12

This India based writer talks about "Post Truth Analysis"...if it has infected US media outlets too, we are headed for a rough ride!!

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"...One of the topics that I was mostly reading of late was about 'Post truth analysis'. It is a situation in which people are more likely to accept an argument based on their emotions and beliefs, rather than one based on facts.

...

Now, the online mobs are proliferating day by day. Lynching in social media platforms has become common in India.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, women, Muslims, migrants and other marginalized communities are their favorite targets.The paid political pawns, cyber guardians, cyber bullies are all the poisons that blind you and open your eyes. The society itself lacks objective reality. When it itself turns nonsensical, the social norms, political system, nation states, nationality becomes meaningless. Once it stands, the associated norms also becomes reality.

Some of these norms are acceptable to us while others do not and the struggle for recognition crops up. Societal norms themselves are lacking objective reality. There are no rules but driven by basic instincts. The numerical strength and its predominant anonymity in social media can lead to instinctual behaviors..."

Source: https://countercurrents.org/2020/06/echo-chambers-post-truth-era-and-the-fear-of-missing-out-a-millennials-tale/

Jonathan Jun 14

Once upon a time, I took quality journalism for granted. No more. I may not often agree with Matt's politics, but going forward I'll read whatever is published here, and cherish the opportunity. Subscribed!

Malphius Jun 14

Just subbed for this piece. I agree that Lee Fang at least seems like a good dude and the press and media to need to stand up for themselves. This has been happening to ordinary people for the past 8 years though. Really things noticeably started going off the rails in progressive circles around 2012 and the doxing and cancel culture started shortly after. This has been organized.

Moviedad Jun 14

Another great article. Thank you for your continued authenticity in writing about our, "Interesting Times."

Have none of Mr. Fang's colleagues heard of Voltaire?

Scott Jun 15

They are Voltaire's BASTARDS... Why would they care?

J JVS Jun 13

Pol Pot has been hired as news analyst on CNN

Mascot Jun 13

If anyone wants to understand why so many Americans are inclined to reject American-style Left politics, a lot of it has to do with the fact that the Left has seldom held any actual power- so thoughtful Americans who might be open to other paradigms have to make inferences about whether the Left can be trusted with power on the basis of the behavior of the American Left. Loudmouth "Woke Left" Twitter lynch mobs don't provide for a lot of reassurance in that regard.

The prevailing attitude toward the principle of Due Process combines the worst aspects of blithe ignorance and mocking disdain for the very idea. The Inquisition deals with dissent by viewing anyone voicing disagreement on a single point as an Enemy Combatant, often with explicit attributions of evil intention and motive. Accusations are hurled on the basis of the most threadbare and contestable traces of evidence, which frequently proves sufficient to convict the accused. The policy is "one strike and you're out." No warning, no probation. Often, no "statute of limitations." Trail in the press, often with no defense permitted, or regard for the context provided by the factual record of their other writings or statements. There's an insistence on racializing every issue, at every turn, as a zero-sum game- especially if it can be used as a tactic to hoard power, to ,silence, to shut down discussion of dissenting views, and to dehumanize people into easily pigeonholed roles on the basis of one or two characteristics.

Cue the 'Redpilled' Trump-Wing Right', applauding what I just said- and the Woke Vanguardist Left, insisting that I must be talking about the way the Neo-Confederate Right handled their business in the Jim Crow era.

No, this is both of you. Both extremes have that double-mindedness in common. You're both really that bad.

Scott Frasier Jun 13

In a vague sense, I agree with you, but what you are saying is pretty detached from actual examples. I'm leery of labels such as "woke" or "snowflake" or "racist". It is just too easy to hurl stuff around.

My days as an ideologue were pretty short and ended decades ago. My own experience with ideologues I knew in college is that they had sexual inadequacy fears and the attendant problems getting a genuine date.

I have my moral compass, but facts can't be ignored. I don't typically rely on opinion or journalists to provide me with facts because it's just too easy to be sloppy or to lie. I gather data from many sources and try to form a consensus on what is "probably" true. It's my profession.

I also can't ignore the history of the political actors on the scene, so I'm justifiably skeptical of people like Sen. Cotton. He could prove me wrong, but so far he's fit the mold of a white Southerner resentful of civil rights.

Trump, by most accounts, appears to lie with utter abandon. Most of those statements I can't actually assert are lies. However, there are subjects about which I know a lot and on many of those he's a total liar or is seriously in error, to put it mildly. I just have to use that information to form my best assessment of him or anyone else.

How do you go about sifting out fact from comfortable ideology? In politics, it is cost free to ignore facts. In serious matters of health, finance or other real life concerns, the consequences of self-delusion are usually not good.

Mascot Jun 14

"I'm leery of labels such as "woke" or "snowflake" or "racist"."

I'm wary of labels like those, too. But I don't hesitate to use them for group identification when they're embraced by the people I'm criticizing. Or if the labels were originally embraced by many of the people indulging in the slipshod ethics that I'm criticizing, anyway. Political labels nearly always carry a high quotient of semantic unclarity, but they're sometimes necessary as an alternative to lengthy digressions.

The usual climb-down in response to my criticisms of cancel culture and related intolerance for dissenting views or discomforting factual observations is that what I'm referring to isn't really happening, or that the excesses are few and far between, or of little consequence. If only that were the case. Then Matt wouldn't have had to write a column like this one.

That said, I've also recent detected some signs of honest examination and reflection within the "Woke Left" community, where formerly the criticisms were simply hand-waved, or met with reflexive hostility.

It's easy to sift out fact from ideology, once one dispenses with the embrace of a single ideology to the exclusion of all others. That embrace is practically always a matter of personal egotism. The key to being an impeccably clear thinker is to recognize the folly of investing ones personal ego in being right on a question. When logical errors are pointed out or facts hitherto unknown emerge to provide a more complete picture showing that a given position is mistaken, it is not a sign of weakness to change ones mind. It's a sign of mental strength.

" In politics, it is cost free to ignore facts."

That's just plain wrong. I'd argue that one of the most effective tactics in a political struggle is to expose the opposition whenever they attempt that sort of indulgence. But that tactic only has sustaining worth for political movements- and politically minded individuals- who aren't indulging in their own wholesale denials of factual reality. That happens to be a critical problem that isn't just afflicting the two major political parties in this country, but the Socialists, the Greens, and the Libertarians, as well. In different ways, but with consequences that are terribly severe in each case.

Ideological rigidity is a syndrome that leads to Cognitive Dissonance, a degenerative disease. There are no exceptions. Ideological allegiance not to be confused with a quest to adhere to a single standard of moral and ethical principles. In practice, rigid ideological loyalty inevitably tramples those principles. And partisan political loyalty is even worse in that regard. The double-mindedness is frequently astounding.

Those problems should be easy for anyone to recognize and identify- if it weren't for the Cognitive Dissonance thing. One of the hallmarks of the affliction is that lack of even-handed reality testing and assessment- a lack of reflective processing which can reach levels so blatant that it practically qualifies as a type of somnambulism. Late-stage consequences of such chronic self-deception include delusions, paranoia, solipsism, impulsive violence, depression, anxiety, despair...

The cure is simple. Just uncouple the personal ego from allegiance to any one ideological template. They're designing tools, not gateways to ultimate truth. Different ones work better to solve different problems. Practically all of their uses benefit from being buffered or modified to some extent, sometimes by the valid points found in other ideologies that are (ostensibly) antithetical.

As for partisan political loyalty- what's the payoff, over maintaining independence? We need ranked-choice voting, which undercuts the entire con game of partisanship. I want political candidates and parties to work for my vote, instead of devoting their efforts to cornering me into voting for the least worst of the two choices that show up over and over as the default, for no reason other than inertia.

Scott Frasier Jun 14

When I said that in politics, ignoring facts is cost free, you disagreed but then confirmed what I said for a large portion of the political actors, including elected representatives and the party apparatuses that surround them and sustain them.

Sure, it would be nice if pointing out the facts would chip away the ice, but they just deny that the facts are true and cite "alternative facts" which are provably bogus but which support their viewpoint or self-interest.

In a vague rhetorical way, we have the same gripe. But what if we test that with an example. I don't know your views on any issues because you have only discussed process.

So, take climate change for example. Are you willing to go with scientific fact or does it conflict with your self-interest and cause you to deny it?

Do you think the military should invade cities against their state government wishes? It happens to be unconstitutional and illegal in all but the most dire circumstances.

My point is that on the ground, it isn't just the "woke left" or "right wingers" who get off for ignoring facts. The whole political discourse that matters surrounds politicians promising that reality doesn't matter because it gets votes. I think it comes from too much exposure to commercial-speak. "Get a $50 value for only $9.95 + shipping". Don't ask how that's possible because you really want it to be true.

Mascot Jun 14

Thanks for your clarifying remarks. There's a lot of insight there.

I do get that "political reality" is a dimension of human existence that can't be ignored, even though it shares few characteristics with "physical reality", which is more foundational and governed by natural laws rather than human design. You can't fool Mother Nature; physical/material reality has to be considered on its own terms. Political reality is much more mutable, and contains a lot more latitude for modifications. The corollary to that is that it's possible to cheat in order to gain advantage, which is something that can't be done with physical reality.

There's a lot of play in the realm of political reality. This is a good thing, because it allows ideological flexibility; it's possible to draw on the insights of more than one paradigm in order to construct a workable system of governance. But it's also a bad thing, because there it's possible to cheat. There isn't any God-given enforcement mechanism, so to speak. Political reality is a function of human Power. Including in constitutional democratic republics whose precepts and ideals seek to distribute a large share of that power to the people in common, and the public commons. That system is intended to foreclose autocratic rule- unless the people can be tricked into assenting to it, of course. It's also intended to provide accountable, transparent government responsive to the prevailing will of the common people, the electorate- unless the voting population can be tricked by demagoguery, temporizing, kicking the can down the road, etc. Because political reality is so mutable, it's possible to undermine the spirit of the law and its intentions- sometimes to such an extent that bugs are viewed as features. A situation that indicates real trouble. But the saving grace of political reality is that no situation is inherently intractable. Viewing a pervasively corrupt or unjust system as if it were as impossible to change as the law of gravity is simply a lazy, cowardly cop-out.

Notwithstanding the fact that political reality (which includes conventions like monetary systems) is malleable, when it tries to cheat the constraints of physical reality, it always loses. As with this question:

"take climate change for example. Are you willing to go with scientific fact or does it conflict with your self-interest and cause you to deny it?"

Of course the physical reality of climate change conflicts with my "self-interest." Imagine (the realm of political reality!) how much easier and less worrisome our existence would be if there was no such thing as anthropogenic climate change impacts from fossil fuels use to contend with. But you can't bullshit the ocean. It isn't listening. All the denial in the world doesn't shift the carbonic acid content of the oceans one iota. So all that attempts to cheat physical reality with political reality do in the long run is to escalate the consequences of inaction, due to prioritizing political reality over physical reality.

That's an example of the Cognitive Dissonance I spoke of, at its worst. You know, it may underpin a carefree consumer attitude that works to rationalize heedlessness- for a while. It may help shore up a stock portfolio- for a while. It may ensure a re-election or three, to aid in the process of accumulating more Power to manipulate political reality. But meanwhile, physical reality is on its own clock. Imagining (that word again!) that it's possible to view physical reality as dispensable, expendable, or otherwise subordinate to political reality is inevitably a fatal mistake. The people in charge of Sumerian civilization made the choice to keep irrigating crops on the same ground, even as the salinity built up in the soil. The passenger pigeon was once the most common bird on the planet. According to Marc Reisner, it was something like the canned tuna of the 19th century. And the harvests from market hunters grew ever larger. Until, over the course of a single century the bid went extinct- first commercially, then entirely.

Political reality could have changed that physical reality. But that would have entailed a regulatory regime to constrain the marketplace, which is otherwise governed only by the law of inertia. So-called "free marketers" speak of "laws of the marketplace"- with no regulation, that's what you're left with. The law of inertia. Every resource, talent, mental and physical human endeavor in the world fed into the same machine, that makes an inedible sausage called "money." To accumulate and spend on the planet ever more impoverished and desertified by that inertia.

Scott Jun 15

Jesus Fraiser... Give it a fucking rest

M of the L Jun 14

Thanks for writing this piece, as it is well thought-out, time was spent gathering the examples and research, and most importantly it's brave. And kudos for "Twitter Robespierres"; I have a suspicion that unfortunately, many of the agitators have no idea who that was, yet it's a superb phrase I plan to steal.

While this piece resonated with me, this morning I canceled my NYT subscription for other reasons. Namely, its burying of the negative nature of some of the recent strife. When Manhattan was sacked one Sunday and one Monday of a couple of weeks ago, hundreds of stores were smashed and looted in Soho. The next day in midtown Manhattan, the NYT ran cover stories on Trump. The top headline on the front page was Trump's clearing of the protestors for his photo op - a reprehensible action that he committed worthy of critique, no doubt - and the sides of the page were all links to commentaries about those acts, and a few of the usual social justice headlines on miscellaneous topics focused on gender and race issues.

Somehow, opinion pieces took higher precedence over reporting facts that could potentially dangerously sway debate. It's not every day that midtown Manhattan and luxury stores in Soho are looted. But don't mention it, please. Don't you support #BLM?

This morning I saw the front page. "Protests about police killing in Atlanta." No mention of the torching of the Wendy's. Bloomberg, Reuters, and the mainstream press all showed pictures of a torched Wendy's next to mentions of the killing and response. Not the NYT. Also available that day, a headline opinion piece from Kristof that asks (or perhaps states), "What the Pandemic Reveals About the Male Ego: Why are the rates of coronavirus deaths far lower in many female-led countries?"

Suddenly, I felt dirty paying the NYT $5 a month for a subscription. It felt wrong, even though the money amount is so small. It didn't feel morally correct to pay for a left-wing version of Fox News. And it's not even very left-wing, it simply is obsessed with a Postmodernist manichean view of gender and racial minorities v. the dominant oppressive hierarchy.

I patiently waited the 30 minutes to get in touch with representative so I cease supporting this new left-wing Fox News competitor. A small symbolic gesture.

mrm Jun 14

Привет Матт,

Неплохая статья. Меня здорово удивляет, что такой левак как ты действительно понимает, что происходит с прессой. Таких как ты немного.

В реальности это не новый процесс. Мы наблюдаем как SJWs превращаются в большевиков. Россия прошла этот этап ~120 лет назад. Судя по твоей биографии, ты должен был узнать об этом когда жил в колыбели революции.

Я небольшой фанат Трампа (его яйца больше, чем его мозги). Однако, только такой человек способен противостоять этому процессу, все остальные просто ссут от страха. Я боюсь, он долго не продержится.

William R Jun 13

How's this for an Onion-style headline: Prominent gonzo journalist writes polemic in favor of journalists reporting "what we see, not what we think"

But really, I love your writing, Matt. I'm going to stop swimming around in this comment-swamp for now.

Jack C Jun 13

We should also remember that journalism has been in a one-industry depression for 15 years. Newspapers employ half of the people they did in 2006 at their peak. Newspaper journalists do the yeoman's work of journalism.

Since employment as a journalist is so dear, the median journalist is very sensitive to career threats. It is a shame that journalists have used that power against their colleagues, rather than show solidarity.

I have no idea how journalism recovers; the public has grown accustomed to free information of whatever quality. I subscribed today to try to be part of the solution.

Mike Jun 13

Sounds like you need to shave out the back of your neck and put on a nice loose-collared shirt today, Matt.

A Glasser Jun 13

Thank you for this and other realistic reporting you have done. It feels like reading Zamizdat! The real deplorables are the PC loyalists on the right and left who can't deal with any reality that questions the orthodoxy. Like another reader said, we don't need to pay the WP, NYT, or watch CNN or FOX. If we want BS there's plenty of "Free Press."

xRayd Jun 13

Have been a fan of your columns since ~2007ish in RS describing what makes Putin tick. Have definitely been hit or miss since then, but as an independent Iowan, seeing more hit than miss. In this current story I'm trying to decide if you are hoping to win back liberals, or truly trying to be a free-thinking journalist. You've got me for now. Convince me that you can think for your self, and are not just trying to remake what you remember of the party you grew up with.

J N Jun 12

Too much about Fang. Article too long. Sorry, I enjoy just about all of Matt's work. So much to read these days.....

Bill*B Jun 12

Matt, you are a good man. I wish I could ease your angst. The simple fact is, the U.S. left betrayed you, sold out to big $$ donors, and now gives a happy damn about the causes you espoused and thought that mattered to them. They care only about their own power.

Antipodean Jun 16

Even Peter Hitchens (brother of the late "Hitch") over in the UK must have read Matt's article ;-) Here he is just yesterday discussing the Tom Cotton events and self-censorship.

I've transcribed from about 11 minutes in:

"...I do think ultimately there is a benevolent impulse in all of this. A lot of people who take up these positions do so because they think they are doing good, they think that they can actually make society kinder, nicer and gentler. That's the problem, that's why it's so hard to fight.

And in some cases, of course, it's true, a lot of the precepts of political correctness are basically just good manners. The problem is, the extra 15%, which is not good manners but actually self-censorship and indeed the creation of a "new-speak" in which thoughts aren't allowed to be done.

Any cult in which the cultists believe they are benevolent is extraordinarily hard to fight. They think they are good and they don't think you are wrong, they think you are bad..."

Source: https://youtu.be/rPLR9JNktXU?t=469 (where the NY times Tom Cotton debacle is discussed)

Big Wally Jun 15

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, dope has always been around and will always be around to some degree. So no one should bother to limit the flow and availability? Let's use the Covid-19 mentality- everyone lock down because every life matters. The number of people dying from drug overdoses is almost on that scale but we just throw up our hands and say fuck it?

I grew up in the '60's that saw the rise of the drug culture. That was bad enough but all you need to do is go to any major city like San Francisco or Los Angeles and see the massive amount of human wreckage piling up from hard drug addiction-and those are the ones still alive! It is much worse than ever.

There are countries that are effective in limiting drug availability and yes, that would be more difficult here in the US, but we should not be literally aiding and abetting it by allowing millions of undocumented immigrants into the country, many whose sole purpose is to sell dope.

Mascot Jun 15

Typical reactionary thinking, reacting only to the last thing that happened. Taken by surprise. Annoyed at being roused out of slumber by an alarming situation that anyone already awake could see coming years in advance. Decades in advance, in my case. Since I've made it a particular focus of my attention.

Who made the rules? Right-wing authoritarians, and their ninny-state limousine liberal enablers.

Big Wally Jun 15

And the other, possibly more important question is why? Why are people more susceptible to dope now than ever before if it's always been available? Why, on a massive scale is the populous so willing to ingest these powerful substances knowing full well they will become addicted. It's like pregnancy- everyone knows how you get pregnant and everyone knows how you get addicted.

What in the collective mind of the citizenry causes this self destructive behavior?

Mascot Jun 15

You're giving our forebears too much credit. They simply drank more booze. And opioids were consumed in the form of patent medicines. They were part of every pharmacy inventory, on land or sea. Read accounts of the Lewis and Clark expedition to learn how important it was.

Anybody, this history book will blow your mind: https://www.amazon.com/Opium-Realitys-Dream-Thomas-Dormandy/dp/0300175329 Just- don't let it give you any reckless ideas, okay? Just because ____ jumped off a cliff, that doesn't mean that you should do it, too.

There's also the fact that the more powerful purified drugs weren't invented until the mid-19th century, and the most popular mind and mood altering pharmaceutical pills weren't invented until the mid-20th century. Don't kid yourself, as soon as they were invented, they became popular. The first wave of morphine addiction in the US happened after the Civil War, when it was called "the soldier's disease." And over in Europe, the Crimean War. Florence Nightengale.

I'm old enough (uh, 64) to remember when alcohol and tobacco weren't even thought of as "drugs." Very few people referred to alcohol or tobacco as addictive substances. No one in my parents generation thought of any prescription pill as "dope" when it was prescribed to them, either. There was a massive drug culture among the over-30s in the 1960s. But they were so unreflective about their own drug use that they didn't even realize it. I'm not making this up, the annual prescription and manufacturing statistics are all on the books. And in the books.

The real story is what happened when the illicit drug markets began showing up in the high schools on the coasts in the late 1960s, making their way inland by the 1970s. The "teenybopper" market. There's no way to blame legalization for that, either. Exactly the opposite. Teenagers weren't only taking the drugs, there were making good money as retailers, selling to their peers. For part-time work in a party environment. Money for nothing... How is that not going to catch on, in the land of opportunity?

In a more rational world, I wouldn't have to underscore the point that the juvenile criminal retail dope dealers in the schools at that point were overwhelmingly whiteys. As were most of the users...when I was in high school, most of the black kids were abstainers or late adopters. Drug dealers were widely considered the dregs of the black community. And then the white kids started going in for it...and illegal drugs started turning into big business...the next thing you know, Superfly is a folk hero. As is Zachary Swan, in the novel Snowblind...now there's a film adaptation that has yet to be made. Although George Jung in the memoir/movie "Blow" was pretty much the real-life version of Swan, except that Jung did time for pot dealing early on, which is how he got his connections to go way beyond Zachary Swan's level. (Nothing beats illegal dope as a multilevel marketing opportunity.)

The teen years are the wrong time to begin experimenting with drugs. And the riskier the drugs being used by a teenager, the more problems later on. But they've served as an informal, unsupervised rite of passage for a large percentage of American youth for the past 50 years or so. And a multibillion dollar youth market.

(Readers, please excuse my digression, in to a digression.)

Scott Jun 15

It's got to be programmed in at a genetic level.

Some Bro Jun 14

Madness. Reading that physically hurt.

Seemingly we're not able to have discussions with anyone who doesn't have a completely identical point of view with our own. This seems to be a wonderful display of a divide and conquer strategy. The manufacture of consent alongside the manufacturer and complete disarray of decent. All against all.

If this is some sort of psy ops, fair play good sirs, fair play. Until it turns into an orgy of violence, but that's probably a win too as the segments of society deemed as superfluous can kill each other off, simultaneously allowing for more draconian laws and erosion of freedoms as justification for 'keeping the peace' or 'protecting freedom' etc GG

Scott Jun 15

You can take comfort in knowing that IF it's a giant psy-op... the ruling class will only let it go on long enough before it shuts this shit down entirely and rebuilds -in its own image.

Jacob Glazebnik Jun 14

Thank you, Matt.

Chris McCaffrey Jun 14

That was great! Best analysis of the current situation.....

Larry Jun 14

A passionate cri de coeur that really resonated with me, Matt. Thanks. And thank you for your defense of the great Lee Fang. Sadly, I also detect a clear, horrified anticipation that a corporate media which previously, not unproblematically, of course, was once capable of providing worthwhile products, is now, like so much else in our society, simply hell-bent on consigning itself to an absurd impotence, even as events acquire a obvious grotesqueness that one would desperately hope would consign all the virtue signaling to its often childishly self-indulgent preposterousness. I am sorry for this wordiness, but I am having trouble expressing the extent of my own befuddlement and anguish at this terrible situation. One thing I would put forward for consideration: to adopt the posture of an armchair sociologist, some fifteen years ago, I privately put forward the notion, to borrow Benedict Anderson's excellent phrase "long-distance nationalism, of "long-distance morality"; in doing so I wanted to express the notion that people, particularly in the US, were aligning their moral compass not so much within a shrinking sphere of direct, personal relations, but evaluating their own moral integrity more and more in terms of positions they held concerning people they almost never came in contact with, and that political and religiously defined groups tended to up a huge share of this. When you speak of "moral manias", this is precisely the sort of thing I see increasingly occupying consciousness, even at the expense of parts of life that heretofore were considered the proper moral realm, but have become less relevant sites of interaction in our society as we b come more atomized in our action and segregated in our public spheres. And here I think of your interesting ideas in Hate, Inc., especially about how social media are provided with otherworldly incentives to become addicted to hating each other with a decidedly moral vengeance. Such things also suggest to me a kind of specifically moral manifestation of the morbid symptoms Gramsci referred to. Are we passing an important milestone on our ideological journey that will turn a traditional, if corruptible and problematic source that at least tended to turn attention to the situation of others, back in on itself, in ways that can only become manifest in automatically ratified absurdities? Again, sorry for the wordiness folks, but I remain at a loss.

Scott Jun 15

lol: "childishly self-indulgent preposterousness."

Look no further than the bourgeois douchebags pushing this hard line everywhere.

When an advanced degree in underwater basketweaving doesn't provide you with a solid career you can feel "fulfilled" in, there is no choice but to throw a giant fucking tantrum. Hey, it worked against their worthless parents... why shouldn't it work against the nanny state?

Big Wally Jun 14

Gee, with stories about censorship on this blog, my comment got censored. Hmmmmm

Boatguy Jun 17

People depend on us to tell them what we see, not what we think. What good are we if we're afraid to do it?

Johnny Maudlin Jun 14

Matt! Thanks. I think you should triple your subscription price. I'm happy to pay for this work. I sense you are genuinely distressed and wonder how it might feel to be working in a field where one's best efforts to improve the field itself (journalism) are met with mistrust and outright hostility. It must feel shitty. Write books. Or maybe spend less money ;-)

Eat less. Lower your overhead.

Whatever allows you to keep standing and keep fighting an important fight. History will show that even the most basic tenets and principles and values are subject to change. We are living through a real spasm. Best of luck.

Alden Jun 14

"Matt! Thanks. I think you should triple your subscription price."

Let's keep it at $5. He's no Josephus, but close

J JVS Jun 13

Walter Cronkite, James Reston and Ben Bradlee would be proud of you.

Substack Commenter 34 Jun 13

For your consideration as to contributing causes to changes in attitudes about policing: a large swath of people born after 1990 may have less of a sense of what it means to be worried about being mugged. I don't have a strong position here, but rather am seeking answers, and I realized that the 5x increase in incarceration rate from 1975 to 2000 was essentially in full effect for their entire adult lives, so they don't have the same sense of the pros, and they see the cons (which are ample). Again, I'm not taking a position here on which perspective is "better", just pointing out the differences in perspective.

Tony Papert Jun 13

I'm so happy you came out with this. You will be attacked, but you're rightly a moral authority in this country, and youre voice is so much needed just now.

--Tony Papert

Karen Jun 13

Matt, This article was illuminating. I don't think opinion "polls" should have ANY bearing on reporting, however as you seem to suggest. It seems that would be flagrant reporting bias. Maybe I missed something. Would appreciate clarification on your thoughts. Thank you.

Paul Rubin Jun 16

As usual, well and deeply thought out and well written. The wave polarization that has been swelling for decades may be cresting sweeping away no only the press but changing simple actions in public life, too. Who feels safe wearing a MAGA hat in San Francisco or a Bernie 2020 hat in any number of other places? Who dares now to point out the egregious bullying, fear mongering, pro-fossil fuel attitudes and actions in Joe Biden's record in the company of upper-middle class liberals who are doing just fine thank you? Who dare question the wisdom of inflammatory and self-defeating sloganeering in favor of going deeper into a social ill?

And, yes, without a press free to question and one too afraid of the power of the truth to print an unpopular point of view we are in peril.

How to get through this in a system in decline?

Eric Jun 16

Amen, Mr. Taibbi. Amen. You are one of the very, very few voices of reason still on the scene. I think you should start your own media channel/business/publication/site. It could well be the only source of actual reporting out there if you did.

Simon Jun 16

This is hack level left bashing (or is it liberals?) msnbc, ny times, colleges campus's etc. etc. basically maoist comrades now. I fucking wish.

Big Wally Jun 15

No doubt the medical profession is addicted to giving out prescriptions of all kinds although there has been a major clamp down on narcotics.

Big Wally Jun 15

Read carefully- I said if there was no dope to buy then no one would buy dope. How is that not true? Why must I be in a "fantasyland?" It is just a simple statement that is an absolute. I never said it was anything else.

Tony Jun 15

Thanks Matt. Keep up the good work.

AllObamasfault Jun 15

Pelosi/Schumer are clearly worthless fraudulent whichever way the wind blows self-absorbed hacks but are they too old to be snowflakes?

Tom Sullivan Jun 13

And I thought the 60'S were wild and crazy times. Chicago my home town, step back in time-1968 Michigan Ave. Dem. national convention, cops ver. everyone else, A giant street brawl.

Scott Jun 15

The bourgeois shits are at it again.

Rich McConville Jun 15

Leaving military equipment behind never works well. Even if it doesn't get used against us later. The Great Barrier Reef was made larger by the dumping of military equipment into the ocean at the end of WWII. Fine don't give the leftover ordinance to the local police, but don't pretend that it represents value that could be converted to other uses either. This is beyond naive.

Scott Jun 15

Give it to ME!!!

I want a SWAT personnel carrier to play around with!

LorriAnn Jun 14

Hey Matt, Completely off topic - i just spent 20min crafting an exquisite (if excruciatingly long) salient and life altering comment. After sending was re-directed to login again and it was gone. Im over 40 and too tired to re-write so you'll have to wait for my next flash of brilliance. Prob next year.

In the meantime...Would you mind giving your take on the current social climate in comparison/contrast to the "warnings" given in the mid 1980s by Russian defector Yuri Besmenov? What do you know about him? Do you consider him and his explanations/methods for de-stabilizing A society to be credible? Thanks!

Skeptic Jun 14

Matt, back in your Moscow days, as Russia came close to disintegration in the 90s, you favored mildly nationalist, populist, dissenting politicians like Aleksandr Lebed and Yevgeny Primakov (and provided a platform for the decidedly un-mild but entertaining Limonov). As I recall, your reasoning was that these guys may be a little crude and unpleasant, but at least they might not steal the Russian people blind and sell out the country, as the prevailing powers were doing. Do you think a similar logic might apply in the US? I think you know what I mean. Thanks for all your great writing and courage. --a longtime reader but brand new subscriber

Kyle Thiermann Jun 14

Thank you Matt.

Pangolin69 Jun 13

Collective historical guilt meets identity politics. Hilarity ensues.

Alden Jun 13

"If there's an edge to Fang at all, it seems geared toward people in our business who grew up in affluent circumstances and might intellectualize topics that have personal meaning for him."

--Matt, please stand up for Andy Ngo. You just described Andy dear Sir!!!!!!

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[Jun 20, 2020] The symphony orchestra of Austin, Texas has fired their lead trombonist for politically incorrect Twit

People who post of Twitter are stupid by definition, but people who fire employees for posting on Twitter are trying to replicate excesses of Stalinism (and, in way, McCarthysm) on a farce level. As in Marx "history repeats: first as tragedy, the second as farce"
By classifying the (somewhat incorrect; Obama was elected not only because he was half black, but also because he was half--CIA ;-) Twit below as the cry "fire" in crowded theater, we really try to replay the atmosphere of Stalinist Russia on a new level.
Notable quotes:
"... Austin Symphony Trombonist Fired Over Racist Comments , The Violin Channel, June 1, 2020 ..."
Jun 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

Here's some darkness: the symphony orchestra of Austin, Texas has fired their lead trombonist. This is a white lady named Brenda Sansig Salas, 51 years old and a U.S. Army veteran. Austin Symphony Trombonist Fired Over Racist Comments , The Violin Channel, June 1, 2020 She'd been posting comments on social media. The comment that precipitated her firing was apparently this one:

The BLACKS are looting and destroying their environment. They deserve what they get.

Brenda Sansig Salas

Have you checked out the 1/2 black president swine flu H1N1, and EBOLA?

What has your 1/2 black president done for you??

The ONLY REASON he was elected was because he is 1/2 black.

People voted on racist principles, not on the real issues . The BLACKS are looting and destroying their environment. They deserve what
they get. Playing the RACE CARD IS RACIST.

Symphony orchestra spokes-critter Anthony Corroa [ Email him ]announced the firing of Ms. Salas in the dreary schoolmarmish jargon of corporate wokeness: This language is not reflective of who we are as an organization." And "there is no place for hate within our organization."

[Jun 18, 2020] 'Don't open, racist inside' Doctored photo of boarded-up Churchill statue shocks users online as outrage over vandalism grows

Notable quotes:
"... Some argued that complex historical figures require an honest judgment. "History is grey and while we should be thankful for Churchill's leadership during WW2 – he was far from perfect, and to many downright awful," ..."
Jun 18, 2020 | www.rt.com

People were left "speechless" after a photoshopped image of a statue of British wartime leader Winston Churchill emerged online. The monument was vandalized during protests against racism and police brutality last week. The statue outside the British Parliament building was boarded up for protection against vandalism. Now an image has been circulating on social media showing the words "Don't open, racist inside" written on the boards covering the monument.

Churchill's statue today in London. I'm speechless. pic.twitter.com/sw49kUFjsh

-- You're not meant to think the statue thing is real (@rdouglasjohnson) June 12, 2020

While commenters online were quick to point out that the phrase was digitally added to the original photo, there has been growing outrage over the treatment of the statue by protesters. While some view Churchill as a symbol of colonialism, many regard him as one of the greatest British statesmen, who led the nation to victory in WWII. "I'm speechless," one Twitter user said, commenting on the photoshopped image. "This man is one of the reasons Britain and most of Europe didn't end up under Nazi control, and this is how y'all thank him," another wrote .

Some argued that complex historical figures require an honest judgment. "History is grey and while we should be thankful for Churchill's leadership during WW2 – he was far from perfect, and to many downright awful," a person wrote online.

Officials also defended the statue. Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that boarding it up was "absurd and shameful," while Home Secretary Priti Patel called for the coverings to be removed. "We should free Churchill, a hero of our nation, who fought against fascism and racism in this country and Europe," she said.

...

[Jun 16, 2020] Woke Mobs Now Destroying Statues Of Leading Anti-Slavery Figures

Jun 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Police in various American cities especially on the East and West coasts have stood down while fanatical mobs of leftists unilaterally determine which public monuments and statues should be toppled, destroyed, and in some cases beheaded -- as in the recent "beheading" of a Christopher Columbus statue at a public park in Boston .

It didn't take long for the woke mobs to target statues of the founding fathers and American Constitutional framers in the past days.

In Portland over the weekend , a large bronze Thomas Jefferson statue that was a central feature of Jefferson High School campus was pulled down after Black Lives Matter protests there.

Like others across the nation, the Jefferson statue was further defaced with the words "slave owner" and "George Floyd" spray-painted across the base.

Via local affiliate news station OPB: "A local hip hop artist named Spazz sits on the Thomas Jefferson statue that was torn down from its pedestal at Jefferson High School in Northeast Portland."

But given that increasingly even Abraham Lincoln statues are being targeted, it reveals that neither the Confederacy nor early colonial and American slaveholders are the targets, but all symbols of US history itself.

As The Federalist astutely observes :

They make no distinction between Confederate and Union, abolitionist and pro-slavery, 15th-century figures and 20th. They don't care when a monument was erected, who built it, or why. They have not come to debate or persuade their fellow citizens to relocate these statues to museums or private property. They believe the debate is over and that they have won.

Their target is not the Confederacy. It is the United States. They mean to destroy symbols of American history writ large, because to them all of American history is racist and genocidal. Their goal is not to cleanse a nation they love of monuments to Confederate traitors who tried to secede, but to cleanse their consciences of ever having loved such an evil and irredeemably racist country in the first place.

Ian Miles Cheong ✔ @stillgray

Rioters in Philly deface a statue of Matthias Baldwin, an early abolitionist who fought against slavery 30 years before it ended.

Even leading abolitionist figures from history are targeted , astoundingly :

That is why you see mobs defacing statues of abolitionists like Matthias Baldwin and Union war heroes like Adm. David Farragut and Gen. George Thomas. That is why the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier of the American Revolution in Philadelphia was vandalized this past weekend with the words "committed genocide." That is why statues of Christopher Columbus were torn down or beheaded in three cities last week.

JamesHeartfield @JamesHeartfield

# BLM protestors vandalised the Shaw memorial - that commemorates the all-black battalion that fought for abolition in the American Civil War

195 4:16 AM - Jun 12, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy

Simply put, it now appears any white male historical figure is now "tainted" with a "racist" and "genocidal" legacy, no matter the historical record.

As another case in point from this past weekend:

ELIJAH SCHAFFER ✔ @ElijahSchaffer

BLM protestors vandalized a statue of John Greenleaf in Whittier, CA

A prominent Quaker abolitionist

Known for his anti-slavery writings

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A "peaceful" protest took place at Central Park in Whittier on Sunday, or so we are told. It appears that initially the statue was safe, but by the end of it the Quaker abolitionist considered key in the 19th century movement for equal rights wasn't spared by the 'woke' mob.

John Greenleaf, whose statue now sits damaged and vandalized, including with the spray-painted letters "BLM", was among the most prominent literary voices leading the fight to end slavery even decades before Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 .

If even memorials to famous abolitionists won't be spared, what will?

* * *

Many commentators have noticed that the statue-destroying leftist mobs in both the US and UK have something in common with a certain Mideast terror group...

Before and after : the 6th century Bamiyan Buddhas of Afghanistan were destroyed by the Taliban using dynamite in 2001.

Someone Else , 16 minutes ago

The President has always been a respected figurehead no matter who he was. There were many times in my 62 years that the guy I didn't support became President. But he WAS President. And he was treated with respect and dignity.

You can't look at a newspaper today without seeing a headline like "President Lies About Russia". "Fact Checkers" call him a liar in real time before he can even finish a speech. The press openly mocks him and holds him in contempt on every issue. It seems that the only "media outlet" that universally endorses the President is fringical "Info Wars" and for it they are banned from Facebook and Twitter.

If we can't show our current elected President the respect he deserves for simply BEING our elected President - why are we surprised to discover people attack statues?

Refuse-Resist , 7 minutes ago

He may be one of the only Americans in the entire edifice.

stuvian , 22 minutes ago

peak stupidity has arrived

Someone Else , 34 minutes ago

The mistake is in thinking that these riots are principled. This is not about slavery. This is about destroying stuff. They don't want reparations out of a sense of fairness. They want reparations out of a sense of monetary gain, whatever the reason. They don't attack Apple stores and Nike stores to strike out against evil corporatists. They do it because they want free shoes, apparel and Mac Book Pros.

The poor want to destroy the rich and to take their stuff. Don't look for anything noble or righteous there. It doesn't exist.

Goodsport 1945 , 1 hour ago

This is not a movement about slavery or oppression. The intent is to destroy our nation. There will never be a one world government until living standards in the US are brought down to that of the rest of the world.

The Globalists, Liberals, Socialists and Communists who fund, encourage and protect these criminals have become the biggest threat to our freedom since the War of Independence.

Someday this will all become apparent to the majority, but by then it might be too late to avoid a civil war.

Refuse-Resist , 1 hour ago

YES. We must stand together for our children and grandchildren. Failure to do so will end them up in a North American version of South Africa.

iadr , 1 hour ago

IDK. Statues have always seemed kind of icky to me. They purport to honor the ideas/ideals of someone, but I can't see how that's true. It requires an absurd and patently obviously immature association with the corporal form of someone to represent their ideas. It was, and is, a dumb idea.

But I don't think more than a few percent of "activists" currently can reason in the way of this analysis, or even have the self knowledge to discern where their hate of power symbols arises from (an incredibly complex topic).

So there are statues and they are up. I'd leave them up, but I'm not really tied to the idea by more than the thinnest thread.

If we "win" in the long term.... do we, in 50 years leave up the statue of Rev Al Sharpton? do we leave up a statue of some cross dressing idiot because it means something to some people? Do we leave up a statue of some defender/symbol of financialization- a Ray Dalio or a Ken Griffin? Someone who represents the concentration and corruption of power in the .1% in this era?, or another era (eg. Rockefeller)?

Of current statuary, I know enough philosophy/sociology/history/ethics to rank by worthiness - in my value system , of long term defence. Conversely I see how many of the "famous" of the past are simply sociopaths who got lucky, who spotted their era's version of a cheat code .

I think the reactionary articles on the statue topic are way beneath the standard we have here at ZH, and are tabloidish.

I think the vandals should stop, yes. And that they are shallower *by far* than the people who put up the statues, but also and lastly: that maybe there's a third way besides prostrating one's self in defence of some flawed character from a wholly different era.

ItsAllBollocks , 1 hour ago

They're not destroying your statues, they're destroying your history. The crazy part is you're letting them. The question is, why?

Scipio Africanuz , 3 hours ago

As averred, there'll always be saboteurs and provocateurs amongst any mass protest, it's a feature, not a bug and why? To discredit the peaceful protesters is why.. In this case however, you have sabotage and provocation combined with illiteracy to create a volatile mix.. It's easy to observe that vandalizing anti-slavery advocates, is either illiteracy, sabotage, or provocation..

The interesting thing however, is the energetic attempts to tar all the protesters as anti-white or anyi-America..

What's going on, are attempts by political forces to discredit the grievances of legitimate protesters, and it's quite transparent too..

Unfortunately, since quite a lot of Americans no longer engage in critical thinking, they'll fail to ask the obvious questions such as who benefits from vandalizing anti-slavery monuments..

Or even that of Jefferson, from whom protesters draw the legitimacy of their protests..

Anyhow, the folks sowing the chaos on both sides, are going down hard, they've passed their best before dates of utility..

Now, they're simply parasites..

Cheers...

Sick Monkey , 3 hours ago

This is why we need law enforcement. Cull the parasites. We do it with predators when their numbers climb and start attacking innocents. The alternative is chaos. Can't invest in a society that lets predators roam free.

djez , 2 hours ago

"Unfortunately, since quite a lot of Americans no longer engage in critical thinking, they'll fail to ask the obvious questions such as who benefits from vandalizing anti-slavery monuments.."

Well said. I have just been explaining the meaning of critical thinking to my 13 year old daughter and recommended she apply it the next time one of her teachers raises the BLM subject, rather than going along with what she is being told that racism is a huge problem. It's not. We just had a black president. The issue is not racism, it's the image that social media has developed that everybody else is having a great time and long loads of assets. You sit there reading all day that everybody else has a "lovely lunch with the girls" and dripping in Cartier or "rolling with my bitches in my Mercedes" and you will crack up at why your life is so $hit.

So I say again, if they read books instead of Facebook the world would be a better place.

[Jun 16, 2020] Tearing down statues = book burning; statue s meaning can change with time and right now these statues are increasingly being targeted because they are tied to ethnic enemies of the core of these protests

Jun 16, 2020 | www.unz.com

Altai_2 , says: Show Comment June 12, 2020 at 10:33 pm GMT

I have to disagree. Small minorities taking it upon themselves to topple and destroy statues is not democracy. You may conflate the image of the toppled statue with a popular revolt but that is because we've never seen as disarmed and atomised population as we have reached now who have as yet not begun a backlash against the unending mission creep we see in this movement.

In some cases, like in towns and cities that have developed significant black majority populations, the removal of confederate monuments that was blocked by the state from happening democratically may have a case.

But the statues in Britain and elsewhere in Europe are often much older in general and not controversial. They are often prominent parts of the public space that are well-loved. A statue's meaning can change with time and right now these statues are increasingly being targeted not because they irredeemably cause offense but because they are tied to ethnic enemies of the core of these protests.

The Columbus statues are a good example. The one in Virginia was initially opposed in 1925 by Virginians of old stock Anglo settler ancestry and prominently by a politician who turned out to be tied to the KKK, causing the situation to become a national one in the US leading to pressure that lead to the statue being erected. To all parties involved this wasn't really a statue of Columbus, it was an ethnic totem. Almost 100 years later and the context of the statue being an ethnic totem for Italian-Americans is not visible to the protestors, to them it's a totem of white America and European colonisation. The context of the statue being originally placed as an ethnic marker in opposition with America's existing identity (A kind of activism very similar to what they're doing) was invisible to them. Who was right? Were the Anglos in the 1920s right? Were the Italian immigrants right? Were the local Native American groups right? Were the BLM protestors right?

In 1925, Frank Realmuto (a Richmond barber) organized a campaign to donate a statue of Christopher Columbus to Richmond's Monument Avenue; this campaign was supported by Richmond's approximately 1,000 Italian-American residents. In May 1925, the Richmond City Council rejected a proposal to donate land for the statue alongside Monument Avenue on the basis that Columbus was both a foreigner and a Catholic; most of the council members believed that putting Columbus near monuments to revered Confederate figures would be inappropriate. This decision was widely criticized in newspaper editorials published across the United States, especially when it came to light that an opponent of the statue who spoke at the meeting was a member of a coalition that included the Ku Klux Klan. In June 1925, a committee of the Richmond city council decided to allocate land near Byrd Park for the statue. Fundraising began in February 1926 while Ferruccio Legnaioli, an Italian immigrant to Richmond, was selected to design the statue. Ground was broken in June 1926.

For decades, members Richmond's Italian-American community gathered near the statue on the eve of Columbus Day to celebrate Columbus and their culture. During the 2010s, the statue was repeatedly vandalized; these vandalizations coincided with increased opposition to Columbus Day and efforts to recognize indigenous peoples. On June 9, 2020, the statue was torn down, spray-painted, set on fire, and thrown into a nearby lake by individuals protesting the May 2020 killing of George Floyd.

The destruction of these statues is basically a form of ethnic provocation and is not conductive to any kind of social solidarity that Johnathan supports. So far I've seen zero mentions of Palestine in all the hubbub about racism. Indeed, with all the noise about identity politics which often prominently includes Muslims and arabs and even a surprising number of people of Palestinian descent in the US, I don't see any mention of Palestinians.

Churchill wasn't a very sympathetic man, yet the statue of him isn't about that. He is a personification of WW2 and Britain. People who fully know all about his deficiencies and crimes walk past and feel fine or even a little comforted because it's not a statue celebrating those things or perhaps even really the man himself but the idea of him. And that is partly why the protestors want to destroy it. Nobody is really offended by it because nobody really thinks about those aspects of his character, not even the protestors. I fear the protestors are attacking it because of what it does represent.

But it goes further because this is centering an effective non-English perspective about the English perspective. You can't understand the notion of 'decolonisation' of London otherwise.

Ultimately the destruction of these statues feels very similar to the destruction of place names and monuments by the Israelis after 1948. All of this is the greatest bonfire of social solidarity the West has ever seen and all it will lead to more victories for oligarchy and neoliberalism. All of it will beat people down and make them hunker down.

Ilya G Poimandres , says: Show Comment June 12, 2020 at 10:49 pm GMT
Just the title – tearing down statues, is the same as burning books, or burying scholars.

History is history – deal with it or STFU. Honestly, debate is about considering what has been, what is now, and what will or could be in the future. Without having signs to what has been, knowing what is now is difficult. And knowing how to forge the future, is a lost cause.

Brits built statues to Churchill – he was a genocidal, forgerist, drunk maniac. Germans built statues to Hitler – he was an aggressor, perhaps genocidal (to the Slavs). Russians built monument to Lenin – he wasn't genocidal, just indifferent to murdering some decent fraction of any people's to get his goal.

But those people, whether in understanding, or in failure of understanding, built statues to them. Both serve as lessons – either as a lesson to the power of propaganda, or herd behaviour. Even without those two, statues to moral decay shine a light on that condition.

'the fool is not the one who doesn't know, but the one that does not want to know' – someone else (if anyone knows! )

Ilya G Poimandres , says: Show Comment June 12, 2020 at 11:06 pm GMT
Now that I've read it – it is as if the author believes that only positive lessons, pats on the back, can serve as lessons to the individual or society.

In my experience however, error is what offers both progress. Or suffering – if the lesson from the error is not learnt.

Success is heady. Statues of heroes and heroes only bring pride, a deadly emotion. We must remember the faults of humanity, and what better way than through the errors of our predecessors? Christians put up statues to slavers, rapists, murderers. Is this not enough for reflection? Can't we stand around a statue of Churchil, and debate power by considering he wished to drop 10 million Anthrax bombs on Northern Germany in a drunken stupor? How would this be possible without the statues?

The author is a babe, an infant – that in shuttering his eyes with his hands, believes all the danger and evil disappears from the experience that is in front of him.

It doesn't.

Biff , says: Show Comment June 13, 2020 at 1:39 am GMT
Tearing down statues = book burning
RodW , says: Show Comment June 13, 2020 at 4:27 am GMT

It seems Bristol's political class today are little more responsive to the popular will than they were 200 years ago.

Bristol's political class today is full of minorities, including the mayor who is a negro, all of them much hated for their corruption, incompetence, and favouritism to their own minorities. Bristolians love their trees, but minorities don't seem to like leafy suburbs, so they have all the trees cut down. If they had cared a hoot about Colston's statue, they could have had it moved to a museum any time they wished.

The people who threw Colston in the docks appear to be largely white children, probably at Bristol University, which has become a cancer growing on the city, a vast and ravenous corporation buying up property using tuition fees from the wealthy ruling classes of other countries. Their act of vandalism was motivated by empty and ignorant slogans, impatience with actual democracy, and a total intolerance of opinion which differs from their own. Also by a pathetic urge to mimic what's going on in the US.

This lawlessness and its encouragement by the minority power holders will have been noted by hitherto law-abiding people. Nobody should be surprised if the next figure to go into the docks is Bristol's black mayor, accompanied by some brown councillors.

Pat Kittle , says: Show Comment June 13, 2020 at 5:14 am GMT

"Tearing Down Statues Isn't Vandalism. It's at the Heart of the Democratic Tradition"

Hey Jonathan Cook:

Sure!

Let's tear down ALL statues glossing over historical crimes & hypocrisy -- prioritizing the most notorious hagiography of all -- the ubiquitous idolatry of "Holocaust" industry shysters.

How about it, Jonathan?

Jonathan??

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Show Comment June 13, 2020 at 6:54 am GMT
@Beavertales I have read several claims, seemingly credible, that George Soros funds BLM and supports their violent rioting. It is also documented, rebellious Jewish sources, that the Jews collectively hate non-Jews and and are at war with, seek to subvert, the societies in which they, the Jews, live. It happened historically, e.g. the Cyrene uprising in the 2nd century AD whose largely successful objective was widespread massacres of Gentiles. There seems reason to believe organized subversions of society, BLM, LGTQXYZ and more have that connection.

We have here the current article by the Le Pen woman pointing out that permanent victimhood is behind BLM and the like. But that, being eternal victims and so eternally hating, is notoriously Jewish.

The Holocaust museums everywhere are central to that victimhood and it is not permitted to examine the truth of the Holocaust, though some have dared and say it's largely devoid of credibility.

So yes, you are right. One of the answers to the current turmoil plus the other things you mention, USS Liberty etc., is that the Holocaust museum in Washington should be stormed by Americans.

Disclaimer: I am not an American.

But the time is long overdue for fair and balanced and open and loud reaction to the eternal Jewish war against society.

[Jun 16, 2020] Appeasers are assuming that that the statue-removers will be placated. But exactly the opposite is true; they will be not placated, but rather, encouraged to escalate to the next kind of tear-down.

Jun 16, 2020 | www.unz.com

SafeNow , says: Show Comment June 14, 2020 at 8:09 am GMT

Those who allow the tearing-down are projecting their own mindset of rationality and compromise onto those doing the tearing-down. They are assuming that that the statue-removers will be placated.

But exactly the opposite is true; they will be not placated, but rather, encouraged to escalate to the next kind of tear-down. Among those making the error is Mr. Trump, a dealmaker, who will think he has made a deal; that this is a "deal" situation. The statues are just the tip of the iceberg.

[Jun 16, 2020] Saagar Enjeti- Obamagate is real and the media can't just ignore it

They gaslighted the whole nation. Amazing achievement. In other words, they are a real criminal gang, a mafia. No questions about it. This is Nixon impeachment level staff. This are people that brought us Lybia, Syria: this senile Creepy Joe.
Jun 16, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Saagar Enjeti blasts former President Obama after it was revealed in transcripts he was the person who told then-deputy attorney general Sally Yates about Mike Flynn's intercepted phone call with the Russian ambassador, Joe Biden responds to Flynn claims on Good Morning America.

Maniachael Productions , 1 month ago

Lmao a war criminal complaining about the rule of law not being upheld

C.I.A. , 3 weeks ago

It's disgusting to me how news sources say that Obama gate isn't real.

[Jun 16, 2020] Saagar Enjeti- BOMBSHELL reveals Biden at center of Obamagate, media ignores

They gaslighted the whole nation. Amazing achievement. In other words, they are a real criminal gang, a mafia. No questions about it.
Jun 16, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Columbus1152 , 1 month ago

Dementia comes in handy at a time like this.

RayC1 , 1 month ago

Biden just described his entire political career, "I was there, but i had nothing to do with it"

Arthur Sprong , 1 month ago

He's not senile, he's getting ready to be "unfit for trial".

Charles Jannuzi , 1 month ago

Bad Brain Joe was Obomber's point man in the Ukraine coup and all the grifting and grafting that followed.

john smith , 1 month ago

"I know nothing about those moves to investigate Flynn." "These documents clearly outline that you were in a meeting at a specific time specifically about that." "OH! I'm sorry! I thought you asked if I was INVOLVED IN IT!"

Jeff Zekas , 1 month ago (edited)

The word is "entrapment" - Years ago, one of the officers in the investigations squad said to me, "How can you claim to be better than them, if you break the law to catch 'em?" - Now I understand what he was saying.

[Jun 12, 2020] Russia, Russia, Russia - Obama Apparatchiks Blame Moscow For America's Riots

Jun 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Russia, Russia, Russia - Obama Apparatchiks Blame Moscow For America's Riots by Tyler Durden Thu, 06/11/2020 - 22:45 Authored by Phillip Giraldi via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

If one ventures into the vast wasteland of American television it is possible to miss the truly ridiculous content that is promoted as news by the major networks. One particular feature of media-speak in the United States is the tendency of the professional reporting punditry to go seeking for someone to blame every time some development rattles the National Security plus Wall Street bubble that we all unfortunately live in. The talking heads have to such an extent sold the conclusion that China deliberately released a lethal virus to destroy western democracies that no one objects when Beijing is elevated from being a commercial competitor and political adversary to an enemy of the United States. One sometimes even sees that it is all a communist plot. Likewise, the riots taking place all across the U.S. are being milked for what it's worth by the predominantly liberal media, both to influence this year's election and to demonstrate how much the news oligarchs really love black people.

As is often the case, there are a number of inconsistencies in the narrative. If one looks at the numerous photos of the protests in many parts of the country, it is clear that most of the demonstrators are white, not black, which might suggest that even if there are significant pockets of racism in the United States there is also a strong condemnation of that fact by many white people. And this in a country that elected a black man president not once, but twice, and that black president had a cabinet that included a large number of African-Americans.

Also, to further obfuscate any understanding of what might be taking place, the media and chattering class is obsessed with finding white supremacists as instigators of at least some of the actual violence. It would be a convenient explanation for the Social Justice Warriors that proliferate in the media, though it is supported currently by little actual evidence that anyone is exploiting right-wing groups.

Simultaneously, some on the right, to include the president, are blaming legitimately dubbed domestic terrorist group Antifa , which is perhaps more plausible, though again evidence of organized instigation appears to be on the thin side. Still another source of the mayhem apparently consists of some folks getting all excited by the turmoil and breaking windows and tossing Molotov cocktails, as did two upper middle class attorneys in Brooklyn last week.

Nevertheless, the search goes on for a guilty party. Explaining the demonstrations and riots as the result of the horrible killing of a black man by police which has revulsed both black and white Americans would be too simple to satisfy the convoluted yearnings of the likes of Wolf Blitzer and Rachel Maddow.

Which brings us to Russia. How convenient is it to fall back on Russia which, together with the Chinese, is reputedly already reported to be working hard to subvert the November U.S. election. And what better way to do just that than to call on one of the empty-heads of the Barack Obama administration, whose foreign policy achievements included the destruction of a prosperous Libya and the killing of four American diplomats in Benghazi, the initiation of kinetic hostilities with Syria, the failure to achieve a reset with Russia and the assassinations of American citizens overseas without any due process. But Obama sure did talk nice and seem pleasant unlike the current occupant of the White House.

The predictable Wolf Blitzer had a recent interview with perhaps the emptiest head of all the empowered women who virtually ran the Obama White House. Susan Rice was U.N. Ambassador and later National Security Advisor under Barack Obama. Before that she was a Clinton appointee who served as Undersecretary of State for African Affairs. She is reportedly currently being considered as a possible running mate for Joe Biden as she has all the necessary qualifications being a woman and black.

While Ambassador and National Security Advisor, Rice had the reputation of being extremely abrasive . She ran into trouble when she failed to be convincing in support of the Obama administration exculpatory narrative regarding what went wrong in Benghazi when the four Americans, to include the U.S. Ambassador, were killed.

In her interview with Blitzer, Rice said:

"We have peaceful protesters focused on the very real pain and disparities that we're all wrestling with that have to be addressed, and then we have extremists who've come to try to hijack those protests and turn them into something very different. And they're probably also, I would bet based on my experience, I'm not reading the intelligence these days, but based on my experience this is right out of the Russian playbook as well. I would not be surprised to learn that they have fomented some of these extremists on both sides using social media. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they are funding it in some way, shape, or form."

It should be noted that Rice, a devout Democrat apparatchik, produced no evidence whatsoever that the Russians were or have been involved in "fomenting" the reactions to the George Floyd demonstrations and riots beyond the fact that Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden all believe that Moscow is responsible for everything. Clinton in particular hopes that some day someone will actually believe her when she claims that she lost to Trump in 2016 due to Russia. Even Robert Mueller, he of the Russiagate Inquiry, could not come up with any real evidence suggesting that the relatively low intensity meddling in the election by the Kremlin had any real impact. Nor was there any suggestion that Moscow was actually colluding with the Trump campaign, nor with its appointees, to include National Security Advisor designate Michael Flynn.

Fortunately, no one took much notice of Rice based on her "experience," or her judgement insofar as she possesses that quality. Glenn Greenwald responded :

"This is fuxxing lunacy -- conspiratorial madness of the worst kind -- but it's delivered by a Serious Obama Official and a Respected Mainstream Newscaster so it's all fine This is Infowars-level junk. Should Twitter put a 'False' label on this? Or maybe a hammer and sickle emoji?"

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova accurately described the Rice performance as a "perfect example of barefaced propaganda." She wrote on her Facebook page "Are you trying to play the Russia card again? You've been playing too long – come back to reality" instead of using "dirty methods of information manipulation" despite "having absolutely no facts to prove [the] allegations go out and face your people, look them in the eye and try telling them that they are being controlled by the Russians through YouTube and Facebook. And I will sit back and watch 'American exceptionalism' in action."

It should be assumed that the Republicans will be coming up with their own candidate for "fomenting" the riots and demonstrations. It already includes Antifa, of course, but is likely to somehow also involve the Chinese, who will undoubtedly be seen as destroying American democracy through the double whammy of a plague and race riots. Speaking at the White House, National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien warned about foreign incitement , including not only the Chinese, but also Iran and even Zimbabwe. And, oh yes, Russia.

One thing is for sure, no matter who is ultimately held accountable, no one in the Congress or White House will be taking the blame for anything.

[Jun 10, 2020] They Really Are Lying To You The American Conservative

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Jun 10, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The media's Russiagate failures were just a trial-run for the last four months.

June 10, 2020

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Arthur Bloom The most effective kind of propaganda is by omission. Walter Duranty didn't cook up accounts from smiling Ukrainian farmers, he simply said there was no evidence for a famine, much like the media tells us today that there is no evidence antifa has a role in the current protests. It is much harder to do this today than it was back then -- there are photographs and video that show they have been -- which is the proximate cause for greater media concern about conspiracy theories and disinformation.

For all the hyperventilating over the admittedly creepy 2008 article about "cognitive infiltration," by Cass Sunstein and Adrian Vermeule, it was a serious attempt to deal with the problem of an informational center being lost in American public life, at a time when the problem was not nearly as bad as it is today. It proposed a number of strategies to reduce the credibility of conspiracy theorists, including seeding them with false information. Whether such strategies have been employed, perhaps with QAnon, which has a remarkable ability to absorb all other conspiracy theories that came before it, I leave to the reader's speculation.

Books will one day be written about the many failures of the media during the Trump presidency, but much of the Russiagate narrative-shaping was related to the broader problem of decentralization and declining authority of establishment media. One of the more egregious examples is the Washington Post's report that relied upon a blacklist created by an anonymous group, PropOrNot, that found more than 200 sites carried water for the Russians in some way, and not all on the right either. In fact, if the Bush administration had commissioned a list of news sources that were carrying water for Saddam Hussein in 2006, it would have looked almost the same as the PropOrNot list, except here it was, recast as an effort to defend democratic integrity. On the list was Naked Capitalism, Antiwar.com, and Truthdig.

This should have been a bigger scandal, very good evidence that the war on disinformation was not that but a campaign against officially unapproved information. But virtually nobody except Glenn Greenwald objected. There is some evidence that this style of blacklisting went even further, into the architecture of search engines. My reporting on Google search last year found that one of the "fringe domain" blacklists included Robert Parry's Consortium News. In other words, if Google had been around in the 1980s, Parry's exposes on Iran-Contra would have been excluded from Google News results.

The criteria for inclusion on any of these lists are much more amorphous than a more traditional one: taking money from a foreign power. As of this week, we now have a figure for how much the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal have taken from China Daily, a state-run newspaper, since 2016. It's $4.6 million, and $6 million, respectively. This is more than an order of magnitude greater than Russia is thought to have spent on Facebook advertising prior to the 2016 election.

There are other specific Russiagate disgraces one would be remiss to overlook, like star reporter Natasha Bertrand, who was hired at MSNBC after several appearances in which she repeatedly defended the accuracy of the Steele Dossier, which itself was likely tainted by Russian disinformation. The newspaper that published the Pentagon Papers defended the outing of a source to the FBI. How David Ignatius, considered America's top reporter on the intelligence community, can show his face in public after he was allegedly told by James Clapper to "take the kill shot on Flynn," and then two days later doing just that, is disturbing (Clapper's spokesman disputes this account, but Ignatius has not). The scoop, that Flynn, the incoming national security advisor had spoken to the Russian ambassador, is in no way suspicious, but for weeks was treated as if Flynn was making contact with his handler.

What Russiagate amounts to, as Matt Taibbi among others have written, is the use of federal investigative resources to criminalize or persecute dissenters from the foreign policy line of what we here at TAC call the Blob, in the same way that the PropOrNot list amounts to an attempt to suppress unapproved sources of news.

Many of the same figures involved in prolonging the Russiagate hysteria were also big cheerleaders for the Bush and Obama wars. Before Russiagate, there was the Pentagon military analysts scandal, in which it was revealed that dozens of media commentators on military affairs were doing so without disclosing their connections to the Pentagon or defense contractors. It implicated Barry McCaffrey, Bill Clinton's drug war czar, who is now an MSNBC contributor who helped to provide color for the narrative of General Flynn's decline, suggesting he was mentally ill after he had initially been supportive of him getting the job.

In a certain sense, Trump provides journalists who have disturbingly cozy relationships with powerful people a way of looking like they are holding the powerful accountable, without alienating any of their previous friends. Trump is in fact one of the weakest executives in presidential history, partly because of the massive resistance to him in the federal workforce, but also because his White House seems powerless to actually do anything about that. That people actually think the dark cloud of fascism has descended upon the land when Trump can't even figure out how to work those levers of power just shows how obsessed with symbolic matters -- "representation," they call it -- our politics has become.

The subsequent failures of the American information landscape have only served to reinforce this dynamic. Both the self-inflicted economic catastrophe of the coronavirus shutdowns, and the recent civil unrest, will serve to concentrate wealth away from the hated red-state bourgeoise and into the hands of the oligarchs in blue states, including Jeff Bezos, the owner of the Washington Post . This bears repeating: COVID and the protests will lead to a large transfer of wealth from a reliably Republican demographic -- small business owners -- to one that is at best split, which is why you saw Jamie Dimon kneeling in front of a bank vault this week.

Untangling the question of intent is difficult in the best of circumstances, and the same is true here. The contrast between news networks ominously reporting on Florida beachgoers a month ago now cheering on mass gatherings in large cities may not in fact be due to the fact that the large consortiums that own the networks stand to benefit financially from the continued shutdown of the country. They may sincerely believe, along with public health officials , that balancing the risks of institutional racism and getting COVID-19 is worth discussing in relation to protests, but balancing the same risks when it comes to going to church or burying a family member is not. Or it may just be studied naivety, like the kind exhibited a few weeks ago when the whole New York media scene rushed to the defense of the New Yorker 's Jia Tolentino, who played the victim after people on social media revealed that her family was involved in what certainly appears to be an exploitative immigration scam.

The rise of the first-person essay and subjectivity in journalism may turn out to be a perfectly congenial development for the powerful people in America; Tolentino is great at writing about herself. For one thing, this is a lot cheaper than reporting; it probably isn't a coincidence that this development has coincided with a huge decline in newsroom budgets. But at the same time blaming this on economics feels like it misses the point, because there are many people who are convinced this trend is good.

But the way it intersects with official corruption has me rather nervous. To give one example, it seems clear that #MeToo degenerated after the Kavanaugh hearings and Biden's nomination. And given the apparent loyalties of someone like David Ignatius, he isn't going to be the one to unravel the intelligence connections involved in the great sexual violence story of our generation, the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. So we are left with the Netflix version, slotted right into the typical narrative, in which the Epstein story looks fundamentally the same as most other stories of sexual coercion, involving a powerful man and less powerful woman, only with an exceptionally powerful man. And yet there are so many indications it was not typical.

So it is today with George Floyd as well. It seems like there are perfectly reasonable questions to be asked about the acquaintance between him and Derek Chauvin, and the fact that the rather shady bar they both worked at conveniently burned down. But by now most of the media is now highly invested in not seeing anything other than a statistic, another incident in a long history of police brutality, and the search for facts has been replaced by narratives. This is a shame, because it is perfectly possible to think that police have a history of poor treatment toward black people and there might be corruption involved in the George Floyd case, which is something Ben Crump, the lawyer for Floyd's family, seems to suggest in his interview on Face the Nation this weekend.

Two incidents in the last week, the freakout among young New York Times staffers over their publication of an op-ed by Senator Tom Cotton that has now led to the resignation of the editorial page editor, and the report by Cockburn that Andrew Sullivan has been barred from writing about the protests by New York magazine, are a good indication that all of this is going to get worse. As for the class of people who actually own these media properties, they will probably find that building a padded room for woke staffers, in the form of whatever HR and "safety"-related demands they're making, will suit their interests just fine. about the author Arthur Bloom is managing editor of The American Conservative. He was previously deputy editor of the Daily Caller and a columnist for the Catholic Herald. He holds masters degrees in urban planning and American studies from the University of Kansas. His work has appeared in The Washington Post, The Washington Times, The Spectator (UK), The Guardian, Quillette, The American Spectator , Modern Age, and Tiny Mix Tapes.

[Jun 06, 2020] Lisa Page Hired By NBC And MSNBC As Legal Analyst (No, Not The Onion!) by Jonathan Turley

This is just the Deep State retirement package.
So another rabid neocon is hired by neocon MSM and instantly was interviewed by neocon Madcow, blaming Russia for the coup d'état against Trump that Obama administration with her help launched. Nothing new, nothing interesting.
Notable quotes:
"... Page testified that even by May 2017, they did not find such evidence that "it still existed in the scope of possibility that there would be literally nothing" to connect Trump and Russia. ..."
"... There was little reason to believe in this "insurance policy" given the absence of evidence. Yet, Page still viewed the effort led by Strzok as an indemnity in case of election. ..."
"... The Inspector General found that, soon after the first surveillance was ordered, FBI agents began to cast doubts on the veracity of the Steele document ..."
"... it was quickly established that no credible evidence existed to support the continuance of the investigation -- which Page called their "insurance policy." ..."
"... Page also left out her other emails including calling Trump foul names while praising Hillary Clinton and other opponents. Even if she were not involved in the ongoing controversy, her emails show her to be fervently opposed to both Trump and the Republicans. ..."
Jun 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Jonathan Turley,

Lisa Page, the former FBI lawyer who resigned in the midst of the Russian investigation scandal, has been hired a NBC and MSNBC as a legal analyst. The move continues a trend started by CNN in hiring Trump critics, including officials terminated for misconduct, to offer legal analysis on the Trump Administration. We have previously discussed the use by CNN of figures like Andrew McCabe to give legal analysis despite his being referred for possible criminal charges by the Inspector General for repeatedly lying to federal investigators. The media appears intent on fulfilling the narrative of President Trump that it is overly biased and hostile in its analysis. Indeed, it now appears a marketing plan that has subsumed the journalistic mission.

Page appeared with Rachel Maddow and began her work as the new legal analyst by discussing her own controversial work at the FBI. Page is still part of investigation by various committees and the investigation being conducted by U.S Attorney John Durham.

I have denounced President Trump for his repeated and often vicious references to Page's affair with fired FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok . There is no excuse for such personal abuse. I also do not view her emails as proof of her involvement in a deep-state conspiracy as opposed to clearly inappropriate and partisan communications for someone involved in the investigation. Indeed, Page did not appear a particularly significant figure in the investigation or even the FBI as a whole. She was primarily dragged into the controversy due to her relationship with Strzok.

However, Trump has legitimate reason to object (as he has) to this hiring as do those who expect analysis from experts without a personal stake in the ongoing investigations. It has long been an ethical rule in American journalism not to pay for interviews. Either NBC is paying for exclusive rights to Page in interviews like the one on Maddow's show or it is hiring an expert with a personal stake in these controversies to give legal analysis. Neither is a good option for a network that represented the gold standard in journalism with figures like John Chancellor, Edwin Newman, and Roger Mudd.

It is not that Page disagrees with the Administration on legal matters or these cases. It is the fact that she is personally involved in the ongoing stories and has shown intense and at times unhinged bias against Trump in communications with Strzok and others. She is the news story, or at least a significant part of it.

Andrew A. Weissmann has also been retained as a legal analyst by NBC and MSNBC. While Weissmann has been raised by Republicans as a lightening rod for his perceived partisan bias as a member of the Mueller team, he does not have the type of personal conflict or interest in these investigations. Weissmann is likely to be raised in the hearing over the next weeks into the Flynn case in terms of prosecutorial decisions. (It is worth noting that Fox hired Trey Gowdy at an analyst even though he would be commenting on matters that came before his committee in these investigations.) In terms of balance, however, the appearance of both Page and Weissmann giving analysis on the Administration's response to the protests is a bit jarring for some .

Page was an unknown attorney in the FBI before she was forced into the public eye due to her emails with Strzok. Her emails fueled the controversy over bias in the FBI. They were undeniably biased and strident including the now famous reference to the FBI investigation as "insurance" in case Trump was elected. In the email in August 2016, here's what Strzok wrote:

I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office [Andrew McCabe is the FBI deputy director and married to a Democratic Virginia State Senate candidate] for that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk. It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40

What particularly concerns me is that Page has come up recently in new disclosures in the Flynn case . In newly released document is an email from former FBI lawyer Lisa Page to former FBI special agent Peter Strzok, who played the leadership role in targeting Flynn. In the email, Page suggests that Flynn could be set up by making a passing reference to a federal law that criminalizes lies to federal investigators. She suggested to Strzok that "it would be an easy way to just casually slip that in." So this effort was not about protecting national security or learning critical intelligence. As I have noted, the email reinforces other evidence that it was about bagging Flynn for the case in the legal version of a canned trophy hunt.

It appears that, on January 4, 2017, the FBI's Washington Field Office issued a "Closing Communication" indicating that the bureau was terminating "CROSSFIRE RAZOR" -- the newly disclosed codename for the investigation of Flynn. That is when Strzok intervened. The FBI had investigated Flynn and various databases and determined that "no derogatory information was identified in FBI holdings." Due to this conclusion, the Washington Field Office concluded that Flynn "was no longer a viable candidate as part of the larger CROSSFIRE HURRICANE umbrella case." On that same day, however, fired FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok instructed the FBI case manager handling CROSSFIRE RAZOR to keep the investigation open, telling him "Hey don't close RAZOR." The FBI official replied, "Okay." Strzok then confirmed again, "Still open right? And you're the case agent? Going to send you [REDACTED] for the file." The FBI official confirmed: "I have not closed it Still open." Strzok responded "Rgr. I couldn't raise [REDACTED] earlier. Pls keep it open for now."

Strzok also texted Page:

"Razor still open. :@ but serendipitously good, I guess. You want those chips and Oreos?" Page replied "Phew. But yeah that's amazing that he is still open. Good, I guess."

Strzok replied "Yeah, our utter incompetence actually helps us. 20% of the time, I'm guessing :)"

Page will be the focus of much of the upcoming inquiries both in Congress and the Justice Department as will CNN's legal analyst Andrew McCabe.

In her Maddow segment, Page attempts to defuse the "insurance policy" email as all part of her commitment to protecting the nation, not her repeatedly stated hatred for Trump. In what is now a signature for MSNBC, Maddow did not ask a single probative question but actually helped her frame the response. Even in echo journalistic circles, the echo between the two was deafening.

Page explained"

"It's an analogy. First of all, it's not my text, so I'm sort of interpreting what I believed he meant back three years ago, but we're using an analogy. We're talking about whether or not we should take certain investigative steps or not based on the likelihood that he's going to be president or not."

You have to keep in mind if President Trump doesn't become president, the national-security risk, if there is somebody in his campaign associated with Russia, plummets. You're not so worried about what Russia's doing vis-à-vis a member of his campaign if he's not president because you're not going to have access to classified information, you're not going to have access to sources and methods in our national-security apparatus. So, the 'insurance policy' was an analogy. It's like an insurance policy when you're 40. You don't expect to die when you're 40, yet you still have an insurance policy."

Maddow then decided to better frame the spin:

"So, don't just hope that he's not going to be elected and therefore not press forward with the investigation hoping, but rather press forward with the investigation just in case he does get in there."

Page simply responds " Exactly ."

Well, not exactly.

Page is leaving out that, as new documents show, there never was credible evidence of any Russian collusion. Recently, the Congress unsealed testimony from a long line of Obama officials who denied ever seeing such evidence, including some who publicly suggested that they had .

Indeed, Page testified that even by May 2017, they did not find such evidence that "it still existed in the scope of possibility that there would be literally nothing" to connect Trump and Russia.

There was little reason to believe in this "insurance policy" given the absence of evidence. Yet, Page still viewed the effort led by Strzok as an indemnity in case of election.

The Inspector General found that, soon after the first surveillance was ordered, FBI agents began to cast doubts on the veracity of the Steele document and suggested it might be disinformation from Russian intelligence. The IG said that, due to the relatively low standard required for a FISA application, he could not say that the original application was invalid but that it was quickly established that no credible evidence existed to support the continuance of the investigation -- which Page called their "insurance policy."

Page also left out her other emails including calling Trump foul names while praising Hillary Clinton and other opponents. Even if she were not involved in the ongoing controversy, her emails show her to be fervently opposed to both Trump and the Republicans.

Bias however has become the coin of the realm for some networks. Why have echo journalism when you can have an analyst simply repeat her position directly? For viewers who become irate at the appearance of opposing views ( as vividly demonstrated in the recent apology of the New York Times for publishing a conservative opinion column ), having a vehemently biased and personally invested analyst is reassuring. It is not like Page will suddenly blurt out a defense of Flynn or Trump or others in the Administration.

With Page, NBC has crossed the Rubicon and left its objectivity scattered on the far bank.

we_the_people, 11 minutes ago (Edited)

Nothing says professional journalism like hiring a dirty whore who was an active participant in a coup to overthrow a duly elected President!

The level of insanity is truly amazing!

Heroism, 14 minutes ago

The MSM gets more Orwellian by the day, and today is like tomorrow.

More proof that corruption and deceit pay, big time. Surely, at some point viewers and voters

will say, "Enough!" and hit these purveyors of lies where it hurts--in the ratings and pocketbooks. Meanwhile,

the people will just willingly suffer..............

[Jun 04, 2020] The Minneapolis Putsch by CJ Hopkins

Looks like the third stage of the Purple revolution against Trump, with Russiagate and Ukrainegate and two initial stages.
Notable quotes:
"... Things couldn't be going better for the Resistance if they had scripted it themselves. Actually, they did kind of script it themselves. Not the murder of poor George Floyd, of course. Racist police have been murdering Black people for as long as there have been racist police. No, the Resistance didn't manufacture racism. They just spent the majority of the last four years creating and promoting an official narrative which casts most Americans as "white supremacists" who literally elected Hitler president, and who want to turn the country into a racist dictatorship. ..."
"... According to this official narrative, which has been relentlessly disseminated by the corporate media, the neoliberal intelligentsia, the culture industry, and countless hysterical, Trump-hating loonies, the Russians put Donald Trump in office with those DNC emails they never hacked and some division-sowing Facebook ads that supposedly hypnotized Black Americans into refusing to come out and vote for Clinton. Putin purportedly ordered this personally, as part of his plot to "destroy democracy." ..."
"... The protesting and rioting that typically follows the murder of an unarmed Black person by the cops has mushroomed into " an international uprising " cheered on by the corporate media, corporations, and the liberal establishment, who don't normally tend to support such uprisings, but they've all had a sudden change of heart, or spiritual or political awakening, and are down for some serious property damage, and looting, and preventative self-defense, if that's what it takes to bring about justice, and to restore America to the peaceful, prosperous, non-white-supremacist paradise it was until the Russians put Donald Trump in office. ..."
"... America is still a racist country, but America is no more racist today than it was when Barack Obama was president. A lot of American police are brutal, but no more brutal than when Obama was president. America didn't radically change the day Donald Trump was sworn into office. All that has changed is the official narrative. And it will change back as soon as Trump is gone and the ruling classes have no further use for it. ..."
Jun 04, 2020 | consentfactory.org
underground bunker ." Opportunist social media pundits on both sides of the political spectrum are whipping people up into white-eyed frenzies. Americans are at each other's throats, divided by identity politics, consumed by rage, hatred, and fear.

Things couldn't be going better for the Resistance if they had scripted it themselves. Actually, they did kind of script it themselves. Not the murder of poor George Floyd, of course. Racist police have been murdering Black people for as long as there have been racist police. No, the Resistance didn't manufacture racism. They just spent the majority of the last four years creating and promoting an official narrative which casts most Americans as "white supremacists" who literally elected Hitler president, and who want to turn the country into a racist dictatorship.

According to this official narrative, which has been relentlessly disseminated by the corporate media, the neoliberal intelligentsia, the culture industry, and countless hysterical, Trump-hating loonies, the Russians put Donald Trump in office with those DNC emails they never hacked and some division-sowing Facebook ads that supposedly hypnotized Black Americans into refusing to come out and vote for Clinton. Putin purportedly ordered this personally, as part of his plot to "destroy democracy." The plan was always for President Hitler to embolden his white-supremacist followers into launching the "RaHoWa," or the "Boogaloo," after which Trump would declare martial law, dissolve the legislature, and pronounce himself Führer. Then they would start rounding up and murdering the Jews, and the Blacks, and Mexicans, and other minorities, according to this twisted liberal fantasy.

I've been covering the roll-out and dissemination of this official narrative since 2016, and have documented much of it in my essays , so I won't reiterate all that here. Let's just say, I'm not exaggerating, much. After four years of more or less constant conditioning, millions of Americans believe this fairy tale, despite the fact that there is absolutely zero evidence whatsoever to support it. Which is not exactly a mystery or anything. It would be rather surprising if they didn't believe it. We're talking about the most formidable official propaganda machine in the history of official propaganda machines.

And now the propaganda is paying off. The protesting and rioting that typically follows the murder of an unarmed Black person by the cops has mushroomed into " an international uprising " cheered on by the corporate media, corporations, and the liberal establishment, who don't normally tend to support such uprisings, but they've all had a sudden change of heart, or spiritual or political awakening, and are down for some serious property damage, and looting, and preventative self-defense, if that's what it takes to bring about justice, and to restore America to the peaceful, prosperous, non-white-supremacist paradise it was until the Russians put Donald Trump in office.

In any event, the Resistance media have now dropped their breathless coverage of the non-existent Corona-Holocaust to breathlessly cover the "revolution." The American police, who just last week were national heroes for risking their lives to beat up, arrest, and generally intimidate mask-less "lockdown violators" are now the fascist foot soldiers of the Trumpian Reich. The Nike corporation produced a commercial urging people to smash the windows of their Nike stores and steal their sneakers. Liberal journalists took to Twitter, calling on rioters to " burn that shit down! " until the rioters reached their gated community and started burning down their local Starbucks. Hollywood celebrities are masking up and going full-black bloc, and doing legal support . Chelsea Clinton is teaching children about David and the Racist Goliath . John Cusack's bicycle was attacked by the pigs . I haven't checked on Rob Reiner yet, but I assume he is assembling Molotov cocktails in the basement of a Resistance safe house somewhere in Hollywood Hills.

Look, I'm not saying the neoliberal Resistance orchestrated or staged these riots, or "denying the agency" of the folks in the streets. Whatever else is happening out there, a lot of very angry Black people are taking their frustration out on the cops, and on anyone and anything else that represents racism and injustice to them.

This happens in America from time to time. America is still a racist society. Most African-Americans are descended from slaves. Legal racial discrimination was not abolished until the 1960s, which isn't that long ago in historical terms. I was born in the segregated American South, with the segregated schools, and all the rest of it. I don't remember it -- I was born in 1961 -- but I do remember the years right after it. The South didn't magically change overnight in July of 1964. Nor did the North's variety of racism, which, yes, is subtler, but no less racist.

So I have no illusions about racism in America. But I'm not really talking about racism in America. I'm talking about how racism in America has been cynically instrumentalized, not by the Russians, but by the so-called Resistance, in order to delegitimize Trump and, more importantly, everyone who voted for him, as a bunch of white supremacists and racists.

Fomenting racial division has been the Resistance's strategy from the beginning. A quote attributed to Joseph Goebbels, "accuse the other side of that which you are guilty," is particularly apropos in this case. From the moment Trump won the Republican nomination, the corporate media and the rest of the Resistance have been telling us the man is literally Hitler, and that his plan is to foment racial hatred among his "white supremacist base," and eventually stage some "Reichstag" event, declare martial law and pronounce himself dictator. They've been telling us this story over and over, on television, in the liberal press, on social media, in books, movies, and everywhere else they could possibly tell it.

So, before you go out and join the "uprising," take a look at the headlines today, turn on CNN or MSNBC, and think about that for just a minute. I don't mean to spoil the party, but they've preparing you for this for the last four years.

Not you Black folks. I'm not talking to you. I wouldn't presume to tell you what to do. I'm talking to white folks like myself, who are cheering on the rioting and looting, and are coming out to "help" you with it, but who will be back home in their gated communities when the ashes have cooled, and the corporate media are gone, and the cops return to "police" your neighborhoods.

OK, and this is where I have to restate (for the benefit of my partisan readers) that I'm not a fan of Donald Trump, and that I think he's a narcissistic ass clown, and a glorified con man, and blah blah blah, because so many people have been so polarized by insane propaganda and mass hysteria that they can't even read or think anymore, and so just scan whatever articles they encounter to see whose "side" the author is on and then mindlessly celebrate or excoriate it.

If you're doing that, let me help you out whichever side you're on, I'm not on it.

I realize that's extremely difficult for a lot of folks to comprehend these days, which is part of the point I've been trying to make. I'll try again, as plainly as I can.

America is still a racist country, but America is no more racist today than it was when Barack Obama was president. A lot of American police are brutal, but no more brutal than when Obama was president. America didn't radically change the day Donald Trump was sworn into office. All that has changed is the official narrative. And it will change back as soon as Trump is gone and the ruling classes have no further use for it.

And that will be the end of the War on Populism , and we will switch back to the War on Terror, or maybe the Brave New Pathologized Normal or whatever Orwellian official narrative the folks at GloboCap have in store for us.

#

CJ Hopkins
June 1, 2020
Photo: Nike (George Floyd commercial)

[Jun 03, 2020] Dems ratpack of reparations freaks, weird sexual curiosities, and race hustlers is actually a fifth column for Trump re-election by Fred Reed

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The Democrats are fielding as candidates a roster of middle-school clowns and unflavored tapioca. Are they secretly in Trump's pay? Like Clinton with her "Deplorables" suicide line? ..."
"... Probably the Russians are behind it. ..."
Jul 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

They're going to do it, I tell you: The whole touchy-feely do-gooding ratpack of Microaggression worriers, reparations freaks, weird sexual curiosities, race hustlers, bat.-Antifa psychos, and egalitarian enstupidators of universities. They are going to elect Trump. Again.

Washington, where I shortly will be for a bit, is crazy. It has not the slightest, wan, etiolated idea of what is going on in America. The Democrats are fielding as candidates a roster of middle-school clowns and unflavored tapioca. Are they secretly in Trump's pay? Like Clinton with her "Deplorables" suicide line?

Probably the Russians are behind it.

[Jun 03, 2020] Not The Onion: NY Times Urges Trump To Establish Closer Ties With Moscow

Highly recommended!
Jul 23, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

2016 a Russia-Trump campaign collusion conspiracy was afoot and unfolding right before our eyes, we were told, as during his roll-out foreign policy speech at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, D.C., then candidate Trump said [ gasp! ]:

" Common sense says this cycle, this horrible cycle of hostility must end and ideally will end soon. Good for both countries. Some say the Russians won't be reasonable. I intend to find out."

NPR and others had breathlessly reported at the time, "Sergey Kislyak, then the Russian ambassador to the U.S., was sitting in the front row" [ more gasps! ].

This 'suspicious' "coincidence or something more?" event and of course the infamous Steele 'Dodgy Dossier' were followed by over two more years of the following connect-the-dots mere tiny sampling of unrestrained theorizing and avalanche of accusations...

Here's a very brief trip down memory lane:

2017, Politico: The Hidden History of Trump's First Trip to Moscow

2017, NYT: Trump's Russia Motives (where we were told: "President Trump certainly seems to have a strange case of Russophilia.")

2017, Business Insider: James Clapper: Putin is handling Trump like a Russian 'asset'

2017, USA Today: Donald Trump's ties to Russia go back 30 years

2018, NYT: Trump, Treasonous Traitor

2018, AP: Russia had 'Trump over a barrel'

2018, BBC: Russia: The 'cloud' over the Trump White House

2018, NYT: From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered

2018, USA Today: " From Putin with love"

2019, WaPo: Here are 18 reasons Trump could be a Russian asset

2019, Vanity Fair: "The President Has Been Acting On Russia's Behalf": U.S. Officials Are Shocked By Trump's Asset-Like Behavior

2019, Wired: Trump Must Be A Russian Agent... (where we were told...ahem: " It would be rather embarrassing ... if Robert Mueller were to declare that the president isn't an agent of Russian intelligence." )

Embarrassing indeed.

"The walls are closing in!" - we were assured just about every 24 hours .

It's especially worth noting that a July 2018 New York Times op-ed argued that President Trump -- dubbed a "treasonous traitor" for meeting with Putin in Helsinki -- should "be directing all resources at his disposal to punish Russia."

Fast-forward to a July 2019 NY Times Editorial Board piece entitled "What's America's Winning Hand if Russia Plays the China Card?" How dizzying fast all of the above has been wiped from America's collective memory! Or at least the Times is engaged in hastily pushing it all down the memory hole Orwell-style in order to cover its own dastardly tracks which contributed in no small measure to non-stop national Russiagate hype and hysteria, with this astounding line:

President Trump is correct to try to establish a sounder relationship with Russia... -- Editorial Board, New York Times, 7-22-19

That's right, The Times' pundits have already pivoted to the new bogeyman while stating they agree with Trump on Russian relations :

"Given its economic, military and technological trajectory, together with its authoritarian model, China, not Russia , represents by far the greater challenge to American objectives over the long term . That means President Trump is correct to try to establish a sounder relationship with Russia and peel it away from China ."

[... Mueller who? ]

Remember how recently we were told PUTIN IS WEAPONIZING EVERYTHING! from space to deep-sea exploration to extreme climate temperatures to humor to racial tensions to even 'weaponized whales' ?

It's 2019, and we've now come full circle . This is The New York Times editorial board continuing their call for Trump to establish "sounder" ties and "cooperation" with Russia :

"Even during the Cold War, the United States and the Soviet Union often made progress in one facet of their relationship while they remained in conflict over other aspects. The United States and Russia could expand their cooperation in space . They could also continue to work closely in the Arctic And they could revive cooperation on arms control."

Could we imagine if a mere six months ago Trump himself had uttered these same words? Now the mainstream media apparently agrees that peace is better than war with Russia.

With 'Russiagate' now effectively dead, the NY Times' new criticism appears to be that Trump-Kremlin relations are not close enough , as Trump's "approach has been ham-handed " - the 'paper of record' now tells us.

Or imagine if Trump had called for peaceful existence with Russia almost four years ago? Oh wait...

" Common sense says this cycle, this horrible cycle of hostility must end and ideally will end soon. Good for both countries." -- Then candidate Trump on April 27, 2016

Cue ultra scary red Trump-Kremlin montage.

[Jun 03, 2020] Requiem to Russiagate: this was the largest and the most successful attempt to gaslight the whole US population ever attempted by CIA and Clinton wing of Dems by CJ Hopkins

Highly recommended!
Neoliberal MSM just “got it wrong,” again … exactly like was the case with those Iraqi WMDs ;-).
So many neocons and neolibs seem so disappointed to find out that the President is not a Russian asset that it looks they’d secretly wish be ruled by Putin :-).
But in reality there well might be a credible "Trump copllition with the foreign power". Only with a different foreign power. Looks like Trump traded American foreign policy for Zionist money, not Russian money. That means that "the best-Congress-that-AIPAC-money-can-buy" will never impeach him for that.
And BTW as long as Schiff remains the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee the witch hunt is not over. So the leash remains strong.
Notable quotes:
"... it appears that hundreds of millions of Americans have, once again, been woefully bamboozled . Weird, how this just keeps on happening. At this point, Americans have to be the most frequently woefully bamboozled people in the entire history of woeful bamboozlement. ..."
"... That's right, as I'm sure you're aware by now, it turns out President Donald Trump, a pompous former reality TV star who can barely string three sentences together without totally losing his train of thought and barking like an elephant seal, is not, in fact, a secret agent conspiring with the Russian intelligence services to destroy the fabric of Western democracy. ..."
"... Paranoid collusion-obsessives will continue to obsess about redactions and cover-ups , but the long and short of the matter is, there will be no perp walks for any of the Trumps. No treason tribunals. No televised hangings. No detachment of Secret Service agents marching Hillary into the White House. ..."
Apr 02, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by CJ Hopkins via The Unz Review,

So the Mueller report is finally in, and it appears that hundreds of millions of Americans have, once again, been woefully bamboozled . Weird, how this just keeps on happening. At this point, Americans have to be the most frequently woefully bamboozled people in the entire history of woeful bamboozlement.

If you didn't know better, you'd think we were all a bunch of hopelessly credulous imbeciles that you could con into believing almost anything, or that our brains had been bombarded with so much propaganda from the time we were born that we couldn't really even think anymore.

That's right, as I'm sure you're aware by now, it turns out President Donald Trump, a pompous former reality TV star who can barely string three sentences together without totally losing his train of thought and barking like an elephant seal, is not, in fact, a secret agent conspiring with the Russian intelligence services to destroy the fabric of Western democracy.

After two long years of bug-eyed hysteria, Inspector Mueller came up with squat. Zip. Zero. Nichts. Nada. Or, all right, he indicted a bunch of Russians that will never see the inside of a courtroom, and a few of Trump's professional sleazebags for lying and assorted other sleazebag activities (so I guess that was worth the $25 million of taxpayers' money that was spent on this circus).

Notwithstanding those historic accomplishments, the entire Mueller investigation now appears to have been another wild goose chase (like the "search" for those non-existent WMDs that we invaded and destabilized the Middle East and murdered hundreds of thousands of people pretending to conduct in 2003). Paranoid collusion-obsessives will continue to obsess about redactions and cover-ups , but the long and short of the matter is, there will be no perp walks for any of the Trumps. No treason tribunals. No televised hangings. No detachment of Secret Service agents marching Hillary into the White House.

The jig, as they say, is up.

But let's try to look on the bright side, shall we?

... ... ...

[Jun 02, 2020] Susan Rice Suggests Russians Fomented Floyd Protests, Violence Across U.S. Obama s former national security adviser offered no evidence for her bizarre claim by Barbara Boland

So one of key players of Russiagate gaslighting and Flynn entrapment trying the same dirty trick again. Nice...
Notable quotes:
"... "We have peaceful protesters focused on the very real pain and disparities that we're all wrestling with that have to be addressed, and then we have extremists who've come to try to hijack those protests and turn them into something very different. And they're probably also, I would bet based on my experience, I'm not reading the intelligence these days, but based on my experience this is right out of the Russian playbook as well." ..."
"... "I would not be surprised to learn that they have fomented some of these extremists on both sides using social media. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they are funding it in some way, shape, or form." ..."
Jun 01, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

President Barack Obama's former national security adviser Susan Rice suggested without evidence that the Russians could be behind the violent demonstrations that have taken place across the U.S. following the death of George Floyd.

Speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer Sunday, Rice said:

"We have peaceful protesters focused on the very real pain and disparities that we're all wrestling with that have to be addressed, and then we have extremists who've come to try to hijack those protests and turn them into something very different. And they're probably also, I would bet based on my experience, I'm not reading the intelligence these days, but based on my experience this is right out of the Russian playbook as well."

"I would not be surprised to learn that they have fomented some of these extremists on both sides using social media. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they are funding it in some way, shape, or form."

Rice admits she's not reading the intelligence anymore, so what makes her think the Russians are behind this?

She doesn't offer much more in the way of evidence for her assertion, other than that the Russians are the Democrats' always-present bogeyman, ever ready from behind their poorly translated social media posts to unleash mayhem upon the U.S.

Ever since the election of President Donald Trump, Democrats have blamed Russians for the outcome of the 2016 election.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller found evidence that Russian-linked accounts spent a small amount of money placing social media ads for the purpose of influencing the 2016 election, but there's nothing to suggest their efforts were successful. The Department of Justice abruptly dropped its prosecution of a Russian-based troll farm, days before trial. Mueller also did not find evidence that the Trump campaign conspired with Russia during the 2016 election.

Although the claims of Russian "collusion" in the 2016 election were eventually found to be nearly totally baseless, Rice's new narrative, that Russians support 2020's post-Floyd rioting, appears to be even more fact-threadbare.

Rice's claim drew criticism from across the political spectrum.

Eoin Higgens, a senior editor at Common Dreams, tweeted "you cannot make this sh– up. F -- - deranged" while former U.S. attorney Andrew McCarthy tweeted "there she goes again."

There's a reason Rice's claim was not taken seriously -- besides the lack of evidence for the Russian meddling narrative that has dominated the nation's political life since 2016, there's also the sheer ineptitude of the actual Russian trolling and ads themselves.

Just look at this ad the Russians funded from the 2016 election cycle for a taste of how convincing those Russians and their social media campaigns can be:


Feral Finster 19 hours ago

Predictable as a stopped clock.
Bureaucrat 19 hours ago • edited
I haven't seen condemnation across the political spectrum. There are a few hard-left progressives like Aaron Mate, Matt Taibbi, and Glenn Greenwald of course, but they have always hated the RussiaGate conspiracy. I won't be holding my breath for any of the #Resistance puppets castigate Rice. They can't, because #RussiaGate is foundational to their existence.
Connecticut Farmer Bureaucrat 2 hours ago
"...#RussiaGate is foundational to their existence."

It's the only hat rack that they have, otherwise they would be left with having to blame themselves for running the wrong horse in 2016.

Scroop Moth 18 hours ago
Y'all are really confusing me! During the civil rights marches, conservatives warned people that the "agitators" were Russian tools. Now, you say that's crazy talk!.

Rice asserts that civic agitation is ". . .right out of the Russian playbook. . ." Let's presume she's had a peek into the Russia playbook. Her statement can be falsified by the good fact checkers at this website!

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't be more surprised than Rice to learn that Russia is still in the outside agitator business. Just a suggestion, of course. Someone as patriotic as Rice really should check it out.

Connecticut Farmer Scroop Moth 2 hours ago
"Russia is still in the outside agitator business."

So is the United States (check out the Russian election of 1996). We're not as good as the Russians though.

Gerald Arcuri 17 hours ago
Why would anyone listen to what Susan Rice has to say about matters of national security?
Alex (the one that likes Ike) 17 hours ago
The saddest thing is that she's been too lazy to come up even with the most jury-rigged conspiracy theory as to why Russians would need it, despite the fact that emotional reaction-oriented rhetorical turds to... sculpture such a theory (albeit a very debunkable one) are floating on the surface. A most deplorable intellectual sloth. What to expect from neolibs/neocons, though? They're always like that. Say some folderol - and then go hiding in the kind Grandpa Bolton's venerable moustɑche.
Timothy Herring 16 hours ago
Wild speculation needs no evidence.
MPC Timothy Herring 15 hours ago
People like her are about to get their due, by being baselessly accused of being Chinese agents.
AdmBenson 13 hours ago
I don't know which idea is more laughable - Black Americans are so lacking in agency that they aren't even responsible for their own protests, or, the Russians are so diabolical that they can turn anyone and everyone into the Manchurian Candidate.

More likely, Susan Rice can't admit that her woke ideology has limitations. She needs a scapegoat so badly that she'll babble any nonsense to accuse one. Hard to believe she was once the National Security Adviser.

ZizaNiam 12 hours ago
I read on a libertarian oriented forum that the current protests are actually being done by the Chinese. Apparently, the Soviets (Russians) instigated the riots in the late 60s.
Slappyhappy 9 hours ago
Where are all the stars you ask" afterwards they will come out with concerts on TV, speeches big speeches that they real do care you hear me, PC BS they will look tragic this time, all the makeup in the world won;t hide their deception, arrogance, utter idiocy in White Towers.
JPH 4 hours ago
Transcripts of under oath statements before the House Intelligence committee revealed neither Susan Rice nor other Obama administration officials had any evidence of Russian meddling in 2016. Of course all proceeded with spreading baseless inuendo for years before and afterwards.

So if not under oath anything Susan Rice alleges is simply not worth listening to.

Miamijac 2 hours ago
civic agitation is ". . .right out of the Russian playbook. . ." Were they responsible for the Boston Tea Party too?
Wallstreet Panic 2 hours ago
Seems like so many presidents have been led into terrible foreign policy decisions by their Blob advisors...Obama by Susan Rice, Samantha Power, and Hillary; Dubya by Cheney and Rumsfield; Carter by Zbiggy, Ford and Nixon (both who should have known better) by Kissinger.
L RNY 2 hours ago
Susan Rice is more ignorant and has far lower intelligence than I ever suspected or she is playing politics and lying. The Russians have no motive. The Russians have no hand to play. The Chinese who have bribed a long list of democratic politicians have a very significant motive and a major hand to play in fomenting riots and race animosity...as a means to influence the November election away from Trump to Biden.

[Jun 01, 2020] More Evidence of the Fraud Against General Michael Flynn by Larry C Johnson

Highly recommended!
Looks like regular consultation between Russians and incoming administration to me. Also it was lame duck President who unilaterally decided to up his ante against Russians (criminally gaslighting the US public), expelled Russian diplomats to make the gaslighting more plausible, and seized Russian diplomatic property in violation of international norms. It was Obama who unleashed FBI dogs like Strzok and McCabe on Trump.
Russia later retaliated in a very modest way without seizing any US property, they just cut the level of the USA diplomatic personnel in Russia to the level of Russian personnel in the USA.
Notable quotes:
"... To summarize--a total of eight different calls between Kislyak and Flynn were recorded between December 22, 2016 and January 19, 2017. Five of the eight calls were initiated by Ambassador Kislyak -- Mike Flynn only called Kislyak three times and two of those were in response to calls from Kislyak, who requested a call back or left a message. ..."
Jun 01, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

More Evidence of the Fraud Against General Michael Flynn by Larry C Johnson

I never ceased to be amazed at the dishonesty and laziness of the media when it comes to reporting anything about Michael Flynn and the astonishing miscarriage of justice in bringing charges against him. The documents declassified and released by the DNI last Friday exonerate General Flynn and expose the FBI and the Mueller team as gargantuan liars. Even though Friday's release of the declassified summaries and transcripts was overshadowed quickly by rioting in Minnesota (you know, if it bleeds and burns it is the lede), the documents reveal General Flynn as the consummate professional keen on serving his country and the Russian Ambassador as disgusted by the petulance and arrogance of the Obama administration.

The declassified material released by newly installed Director for National Intelligence actually consists of two different sets of documents--First, there are five summaries of conversations for 22, 23, 29 (two on the 29th) December 2016 and 5 January. Second, there are the full transcripts of the conversations for December 23, December 29, December 31 in 2016 and January 12 and January 19, 2017.

To summarize--a total of eight different calls between Kislyak and Flynn were recorded between December 22, 2016 and January 19, 2017. Five of the eight calls were initiated by Ambassador Kislyak -- Mike Flynn only called Kislyak three times and two of those were in response to calls from Kislyak, who requested a call back or left a message.

Here are the specifics of those calls.


Alan , 30 May 2020 at 09:44 PM

This is also very interesting:

"Before General Flynn's voce message turns on, there is an open line, barely audible chat.
Someone asks Chernyshev, "Which agency are we talking about?" Chernyshev asks as to
confirm if he understands the question and responds in the same time: "Which Agency hackers
did the hacking? Believe me, Americans did hacked this all."

Petrel , 30 May 2020 at 10:56 PM
The full exchange between General Flynn and Ambassador Kislyak throws much light on the subsequent Sunday morning mis-speaking by the Vice-President Pence.

From the first telephone call, Flynn tells Kislyak that President-elect Trump will only be inaugurated 3-weeks hence. Therefore Trump in late-December cannot formally make foreign policy decisions immediately.

In a later exchange about Russia's proposed Astana Peace Conference to de-escalate ISIS activity In Syria, Flynn responds that Russia has Trump's backing to begin preparations with the Syrians, Turks et al. On his part, Flynn will begin pencilling-in who would be on a future US delegation.

It goes without saying that Vice President-elect Pence, during this period had a full-time job marshaling the Transition and may not have been in the loop on these tentative Russian peace initiatives. When asked on a Sunday morning talk show, Pence could correctly say President Trump had no "official communications" with the Kremlin. But to later trash & demand Flynn's dismissal for "lying to him" about the informal phone calls was inappropriate.

Pence could easily have told Americans that President-elect Trump was establishing informal relations, through multiple phone calls, with world leaders and he, Pence, was not party to all of them. No one in the fledgling Trump Administration was lying to him.

anon , 31 May 2020 at 12:25 AM
Hi Larry.why not tackle this knot from the Russian end.Russia has been fighting in Syria since jisr al shugour massacre in the groves.There naval base on the med was threatened and Gazprom stood to lose control of energy resources flowing out of the me too Europe.That has now been achieved.Not only that but Wagner group are in Libyan with Russian air support.From that point of view what was Flynn's role in this
Mathias Alexander , 31 May 2020 at 02:50 AM
" amazed at the dishonesty and laziness of the media". Dishonesty and laziness are the norm in the media.
English Outsider , 31 May 2020 at 06:06 AM

That was one superb summary.

I wonder sometimes whether the new administration, from Trump downwards, realised just what they were up against after that unexpected election victory.

h , 31 May 2020 at 12:02 PM
Time will tell but something tells me the release of the Kislyak-Flynn transcripts/FBI cuts is also related to Boente's forced resignation. Here's sundance's take - it's a long read btw - https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/30/boom-dana-boente-removed-fbi-chief-legal-counsel-forced-to-resign/

And yes, the hacking comment is fascinating on so many levels. It's just kinda left hanging out there all by itself, eh?

And a quick off-topic thank you to the Col for posting the Lara Logan clip. All efforts hunting for it yesterday failed. She nailed it.

JerseyJeffersonian , 31 May 2020 at 01:15 PM
English Outsider,

Yes, I think that evidence thus far revealed suggests that the sedition was far along, and this even before Trump's victory - an insurance policy, if you will, and way beyond any opposition research, as much of the "information", if not at root fabricated, was otherwise illegally gathered.

And immediate that election victory, things went into overdrive as the seditionists' panicked, doubling and tripling down on their illegal actions to frame a projected impeachment narrative as their next tactic. I hesitate to call it their next strategy, as it was too knee jerk to be characterized in that fashion.

So, no, I think that the new Trump administration had little idea of just how this transition of administration was, counter to most prior precedents, planned to be undermined with the full intent to invalidate the election of President Trump, and if possible, to overturn it .

This was sedition on multiple levels, crimes deliberately embarked upon to destroy the Constitution and the Republic by any means that these traitors deemed efficacious.

May they all rot in Hell.

blue peacock , 31 May 2020 at 04:48 PM
Petrel,

I believe Trump knew he was being spied on as Adm. Rogers informed him and thereafter he moved his transition organization away from Trump Tower.

In any case why did Trump throw Flynn under the bus? In hindsight that was a huge mistake. Another huge mistake in hindsight was not cleaning house at the DOJ, FBI and the intel agencies early. That allowed Rosenstein and Wray to get Mueller going and created the pretext of the investigation to bury all the incriminating evidence. Trump never declassified anything himself which he could have and broke open the plot. He then gave Barr all classification authority who sat on it for a year. Look how fast Ric Grenell declassified stuff. There was no "sources & methods" the usual false justification.

It is unconscionable how severely Flynn was screwed over. Why is Wray still there? How many of the plotter cohort still remain?

[Jun 01, 2020] Obama adviser Susan Rice knows who's responsible for the George Floyd riots. You guessed right, it's RUSSIA!

In was not enough for Obama honchos to gaslight the while nation with Russiagate. They want more action ;-)
Jun 01, 2020 | www.rt.com

How original.

[Jun 01, 2020] Injustice inequality are the real cause of US riots – but establishment who ignored the problem now cowardly blame Russia by Scott Ritter

Notable quotes:
"... The United States today functions in a never-never land of fiction and fantasy when it comes to allegations of Russian meddling in its internal affairs. Logically speaking, most Americans should be insulted by the notion that their democratic institutions are so weak that a half-baked social media campaign could sway a national election (never minding the reality that former presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg spent more than $500 million on advertising , run by the most sophisticated media support team in the history of American politics, and couldn't get the electoral needle to move an inch). ..."
Jun 01, 2020 | www.rt.com

As American political leaders are confronted with the scope and scale of the unrest engendered by decades of failed policy, they're turning to a time-tested scapegoat to deflect responsibility away from their shoulders – Russia. While American cities burn, its politicians are desperately looking to assign responsibility for the chaos and anarchy that is unfolding. Among those casting an accusatory finger is Senator Marco Rubio, a Republican from the State of Florida and the acting Chairman of the Senate Select Intelligence Committee.

"Seeing VERY heavy social media activity of #protest & counter reactions from social media accounts linked to at least three foreign adversaries," Rubio tweeted . "They didn't create these divisions," Rubio noted, "but they are actively stoking & promoting violence & confrontation from multiple angles."

Also on rt.com Russia's to blame? MSM allegations that Moscow had a hand in US anti-police-brutality riots 'entirely to be expected'

Evelyn Farkas, a former Obama-era defense official and current candidate for Congress, tweeted "I hope the @FBI is investigating potential direct or indirect foreign interference in looting. Definitely not out of the question." While neither Rubio nor Farkas named Russia in their tweets, they are both well-known for their Russia-baiting postings on social media, and there could be little doubt as to whom they were pointing an accusatory finger at.

President Obama's former National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, however, left no doubt about where the source of this "foreign influence" came from. In an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Rice, discussing the violent protests sweeping America today, declared "I would bet, based on my experience, I'm not reading the intelligence these days, but based on my experience this is right out of the Russian playbook as well."

Rice, Rubio and Farkas are not alone. Typical of the anti-Russian hyperventilation taking place in US media regarding Russia's alleged hidden hand in the ongoing riots is an article published by CNN , written by Donie O'Sullivan , a reporter who works closely with CNN's investigative unit "tracking and identifying online disinformation campaigns targeting the American electorate." While concluding that "the protests are real, and so are the protesters' concerns," and cautioning the reader to step back and take a breath "before getting too caught up" in any discussion about Russian involvement, O'Sullivan asserts that starting with the 2016 Presidential election "Russia backed (and is likely still backing) an elaborate, years-long covert misinformation campaign" involving "a network of Facebook and Twitter pages designed to look like they were run by real American activists and that were used to stoke tensions in American society."

But the pièce de résistance comes in the middle of the article. "Arguably Russia's biggest achievement," O'Sullivan states, "was the paranoia it instilled in American society. We now regularly see Americans accuse people and groups on social media that they do not agree with of being Russian trolls or bots. These accusations are often made with no evidence and can distract from and undermine real Americans who are engaging in political speech."

Thanks to Russia, O'Sullivan asserts, Americans now have Russia on their mind even if Russia is not involved–which is, of course, Russia's fault. But don't fret -- "It is possible that we will learn in the coming days, weeks, and months that some covert activity has been going on–that some Facebook pages and Twitter accounts encouraging violent protests are indeed linked to Russia."

The United States today functions in a never-never land of fiction and fantasy when it comes to allegations of Russian meddling in its internal affairs. Logically speaking, most Americans should be insulted by the notion that their democratic institutions are so weak that a half-baked social media campaign could sway a national election (never minding the reality that former presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg spent more than $500 million on advertising , run by the most sophisticated media support team in the history of American politics, and couldn't get the electoral needle to move an inch).

There is a truism that you cannot solve a problem without first properly defining it. In their effort to shift blame away from their own failings by alleging "outside" (i.e., Russia) sources of interference in the ongoing social unrest ravaging American cities, the politicians and leaders Americans look to for solutions are setting themselves up for failure, if for no other reason that any solution which is predicated on unproven allegations of Russian meddling isn't solving the real problems facing American society today.

Russia did not direct the murder of George Floyd at the hands of the Minneapolis Police. Nor did Russia direct and implement decades of policing culture in the United States underpinned by racism, backed by a system of justice that sustained and magnified the same. The social and legal inequities of American law enforcement have been a problem hiding in plain sight for decades, only to be ignored by generations of American leaders who exploited the fear-based culture that fed on this system for their own political gain; Russia had nothing whatsoever to do with this cancer that has metastasized throughout the width and breadth of the American body public.

It is the height of intellectual hypocrisy and moral cowardice for those whom America needs the most in this time of trouble to stand up and take a hard, honest look at the diseased nature of the American law enforcement establishment today, and make the kind of difficult but necessary decisions needed to reform it, to instead cast blame on the Russian bogeyman. The Russian blame game may play well on media outlets that long ago surrendered to a political establishment desperate to retain power and influence regardless of the cost. But, for the legion of Americans whose frustration with the inherent racism of American policing policies today, this kind of simplistic deflection will not succeed. America's cities are on fire; manufacturing false narratives that place the blame for this conflagration of Russia will not put them out.

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The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT. Scott Ritter is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer. He served in the Soviet Union as an inspector implementing the INF Treaty, in General Schwarzkopf's staff during the Gulf War, and from 1991-1998 as a UN weapons inspector. Follow him on Twitter @RealScottRitter is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer. He served in the Soviet Union as an inspector implementing the INF Treaty, in General Schwarzkopf's staff during the Gulf War, and from 1991-1998 as a UN weapons inspector. Follow him on Twitter @RealScottRitter

[Jun 01, 2020] More Evidence of the Fraud Against General Michael Flynn by Larry C Johnson

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Looks like regular consultation between Russians and incoming administration to me. Also it was lame duck President who unilaterally decided to up his ante against Russians (criminally gaslighting the US public), expelled Russian diplomats to make the gaslighting more plausible, and seized Russian diplomatic property in violation of international norms. It was Obama who unleashed FBI dogs like Strzok and McCabe on Trump.
Russia later retaliated in a very modest way without seizing any US property, they just cut the level of the USA diplomatic personnel in Russia to the level of Russian personnel in the USA.
Jun 01, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

More Evidence of the Fraud Against General Michael Flynn by Larry C Johnson

I never ceased to be amazed at the dishonesty and laziness of the media when it comes to reporting anything about Michael Flynn and the astonishing miscarriage of justice in bringing charges against him. The documents declassified and released by the DNI last Friday exonerate General Flynn and expose the FBI and the Mueller team as gargantuan liars. Even though Friday's release of the declassified summaries and transcripts was overshadowed quickly by rioting in Minnesota (you know, if it bleeds and burns it is the lede), the documents reveal General Flynn as the consummate professional keen on serving his country and the Russian Ambassador as disgusted by the petulance and arrogance of the Obama administration.

The declassified material released by newly installed Director for National Intelligence actually consists of two different sets of documents--First, there are five summaries of conversations for 22, 23, 29 (two on the 29th) December 2016 and 5 January. Second, there are the full transcripts of the conversations for December 23, December 29, December 31 in 2016 and January 12 and January 19, 2017.

To summarize--a total of eight different calls between Kislyak and Flynn were recorded between December 22, 2016 and January 19, 2017. Five of the eight calls were initiated by Ambassador Kislyak -- Mike Flynn only called Kislyak three times and two of those were in response to calls from Kislyak, who requested a call back or left a message.

Here are the specifics of those calls.