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Election fraud and irregularities in 2020 Presidential elections

 

"We setup the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization
 in the history of American politics" - Joe Biden

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I think that it would fair to conclude that anybody actually willing to look at what has been revealed by this election will have to agree that this election was stolen, rigged, falsified -- chose your expression -- and that going to the courts to challenge this obscene miscarriage of the democratic process is a fundamental civil right and something which any democrat (small “d”) should support.

Trump’s Last Hurrah, by The Saker


Introduction

2020 will be remembered in history as the year when the USA election system was exposed as being on par with so called banana republics.

And the question about legitimacy of 2020 elections exists independent of one's political position. It is true, that Trump was a dismal candidate. First of all he proved to be incompetent for such a high position. He probably was OK as a head of his building and real-estate empire but it was his ceiling. Secondly,  people who voted for Trump in 2016 bought "a cat in a bag": he proved to be a "national neoliberal" not nationalist with anti-liberalism agenda as he pretended during the election campaign of 2016 and which attracted many blue-color and some middle class voters. And four years in office revealed that he has many warts. His subservience to Israel is one: Trump is probably the most pro-Israel presidents in the US history surpassing LBJ and turning MAGA into MIGA. See the following comment that reflect the feeling of a former Trump supporter:

Add to this his impulsivity and incompetence, tendency to bully instead of negotiations, jingoism and subservience to military-industrial complex. I can continue. In short Trump governed as a regular Republican president (Bush III) and completely betrayed his working class voters and in this sense he (Like Bush II)  deserved to be impeached (although not for the fake articles of impeachment produced by neoliberal Dems during Ukrainegate):

John Gruskos , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:31 am GMT • 15.6 hours ago

Trump would have won despite the hostility of the media and big tech, and despite electoral corruption in Democrat-controlled big cities, if he had spent the previous 4 years making a good faith effort to implement the policies he ran on in 2016.

He ran as a populist, yet ruled as a plutocrat.

Candidate Trump promised a non-interventionist foreign policy. President Trump dug us deeper into the Middle East quagmire, intensifying hostilities against Russia, Syria, Yemen and Iran while being cartoonishly subservient to Israel.

The troops didn't come home.

He ran on an immigration platform written by Jeff Sessions. As president he prioritized the immigration policies of Sheldon Adelson and Jared Kushner – calling for "more immigration than ever before" in his State of the Union address, and lecturing his dumbfounded rally-goers on the need for increased immigration because "my friends in the business world say we need it".

A tight labor market and rising real wages remained in the world of might-have-been.

Candidate Trump promised to drain the swamp. President Trump pardoned a menagerie of grotesque swamp creatures.

Candidate Trump promised to close the carried interest loophole and make Wall Street pay its fair share. President Trump gave massive tax cuts to the very media moguls and tech oligarchs who would subsequently doom his 2020 campaign.

The most passionate supporters of candidate Trump were stabbed in the back by President Trump – Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon, Ann Coulter, the Dissident Right, etc. in a pattern that has continued to the bitter end with his denunciations of the Capitol Hill protesters and scapegoating of Rudy Giuliani. At the same time, a whole series of Never-Trump personalities were promoted within the Trump White House (Rod Rosenstein, Anthony "the Mooch" Scaramucci, John Bolton, etc.).

Trump's most intelligent and active supporters were utterly demoralized, while his enemies were given ample opportunity for sabotage and espionage.

Candidate Trump promised law and order. President Trump did absolutely nothing while his supporters were terrorized by Antifa and BLM.

Thousands of Antifa terrorists and BLM rioters broke federal laws. Why weren't they arrested, charged, indicted and tried?

President Trump didn't support $2,000 stimulus checks until after the election.

He didn't lift a finger against electoral corruption in Democrat-controlled big cities, or big tech censorship, until after the election.

Without all these own-goals, the score wouldn't have even been close, and the biased referees wouldn't have mattered.

But there is a proper way to remove him from office, if this is what the US electorate wants. A color revolution, or any other form of a coup d'état run by intelligence agencies, is an odious way to get rid of him.

If we talk about Biden then the only good thing about his is that we do not know how he will behave in the office and that he will try to oppose some extreme Trump imposed on the USA. But there are some signs that he might well be equal or worse than Trump. First of all he has obvious health problems. Historically Biden was a credit card companies stooge, stanch neoliberal and warmonger, who greatly contributed to dismantling go the New Deal and lowering of the standard of living for working American and redistribution of wealth to financial oligarchy. Due to his active support of Iraq war, by Nuremberg trial standards Biden can be classified as a war criminal and should be, at least, prohibited from running for any public office.  His cabinet, especially in the area of foreign poly would make Bush II proud. while he did not manage to get Cheney into his cabinet, he got his protégé -- Victoria Nuland. That appointment  alone buries any changes of a more reasonable foreign policy. the list of neocons in his cabinet is  essentially all you need to know about this neoliberal swamp marionette.  He does not have much of the physical and intellectual capacity required for the position. He is way too frail. Compare him with Kennedy or Nixon and you instantly see the difference. In no way he will dare to dissent from domestic neoliberal policies and neocon "Full Spectrum Dominance" policy abroad; And neither Trump nor Biden has courage  to challenge power of MIC and, especially, intelligence agencies (which are a part of MIC linking MIC and Wall Street) which is the essence of the national security state, as well as enforcement arm of the Wall Street which is another sacred cow of the ruling neoliberal oligarchy. The wing of Dems who supported Biden is essentially a second war party.

So, this is not about Biden vs. Trump (two marionette who in reality do not deserve much of our attention; only forces behind them do; listen to Krystal Ball- GOP's Working Class Makeover Is A FAKE Branding Exercise - YouTube).  And is not so much about the validity of the net result (as in who won the elections that features two dismal candidates). It is about the validly of the process.

The validity of the process determines the level of the legitimacy of incoming administration. While this elections cycle degraded to an artificial choice of two dismal neoliberal candidates  the legitimacy of the government is question bigger that the question of who is elected.  Currently the impression is that two gangs of billionaires who financed the election campaign chose two stooges and one of the gangs managed to play more dirty and win the elections. 

It is also important from the point of view of non-violent means of ending the regime of "internal colonialization" introduced by neoliberalism since 1980. and this process was supported by all previous neoliberal Presidents such as Bush  I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama.  See

So the question of integrity of election is mostly important the candidate of which party en the elections (both Republicans and neolib Dems  represents two wings of the same alliance of MIC and financial oligarchy with slightly different interests,) but from the point of view of the possibility of ending of the rule of neoliberal oligarchy by non-violent means. Of course, currently getting populist candidate in either party is next to impossible ( both parties are actually two wings of the same UniParty -- the Party of financial oligarchy and MIC. ). But Trump broke the ice and has shown that  such "outlier candidate" can win Presidential elections. And while Trump wasted his victory (or more correctly quickly co-opted by the swamp), the other candidate might not.

The integrity of election is the key factor that provides political stability of the country

The next issue is the question whether the election fraud is systemic or not. In other words the question of the integrity of the elections.  Of course, election fraud is as American as apple pie and has a long and colorful history. As Danny Sjursen noted ( ELECTION 2020- What President Biden Won’t Touch – Consortiumnews )

"In this mystifying moment, the post-electoral sentiments of most Americans can be summed up either as “Ding dong! The witch is dead!” or “We got robbed!” Both are problematic, not because the two candidates were intellectually indistinguishable or ethically equivalent, but because each jingle is laden with a dubious assumption: that President Donald Trump’s demise would provide either decisive deliverance or prove an utter disaster."

But the level of integrity of election is the key factor that provides political stability of the country:  until 2020 it made the  neoliberal elite legitimate rulers of the country, even if voters have no real chance of meaningful  choice between one of two pre-vetted by neoliberal oligarchy candidates. Please remember that Biden was installed as Democratic Party candidate by DNC and Sanders, Tulsi and Warren (three candidates which can provide some level of resistance and curtail some aspect of the financial oligarchy dominance)  were pushed under the bus; that tells you something about hidden Presidential election mechanisms in action.

Like Bolsheviks in the past, Neoliberals (neoliberalism is essentially "Trotskyism for the rich" with the slogan  "financial oligarchy of all countries unite") value the safety of the political system as a whole  lower than the need to drive out a particular politician in order to return to power. As such, they are strongly tempted not to play by the old rules. In doing so, they inevitably destroy what this system needs – trust.  Clinton behaviour after Trump election and Russiagate are two sides of the same coin.

It used to be an unwritten rules for the American domestic policy to adhere to the principles: “We respect the principles of free speech, even if they turn against us. We play by the rules, even if we don’t win.”  John McCain – a neocon whom it is difficult to describe as virtuous or wise – was a bearer of this old culture and emphasized that Obama (with whom he competed in the 2008 election and lost) is a “decent man.”

So unless the question of integrity and transparency of the elections resolved, no "elected" candidate can't be classified as legitimate and political situation in the USA can became unstable. This is a huge risk, far more than whether Biden of Trump will be our next president (they differ much less then one can  assume and recruit people to the key position from the same think tanks, Wall Street firms and MIC).

In this case the US government becomes a variation of the theme of well known for the history. A reincarnation of  Latin-American junta.  That's why both Trump haters or Trump lovers should be concerned about the integrity of our voting systems. This is not a political party issue.

Both Trump haters or Trump lovers should be concerned about the integrity of the USA voting systems. This is not a political party issue.

Please also do not forget that Dems are the party that gaslighted the country for four years with Russiagate. That means that the working hypothesis should be that Elections2020 was yet  another, final stage of the color revolution against Trump, after Russiagate and Ukrainegate failed to remove him from the office.

Judging from Dems behavior during RussiaGate it is plausible that they at least distorted the actual results.  If they can gaslight the whole nation for four  years, it is really trivial for them to inject tens thousand votes into the count in key battleground states. They have money, methods and motivation and in most battleground  states they iether control the executive branch, or the key position of the Secretary of State.  Their entire history is about rigging the votes: they have been doing it since the 1790s. For example, Sidney Powell's lawsuit against Georgia states ( Just The News)

At least 96,600 absentee ballots were requested and counted but were never recorded as being returned to county election boards by the voter. "Thus, at a minimum, 96,600 votes must be disregarded," the suit said. 

Also the Thomas More Society's Amistad Project filed another lawsuit which disputes over 100K votes cast in Georgia:

The Thomas More Society's Amistad Project announced its latest battleground state litigation, claiming government data indicates that "well over 100,000 illegal votes [in Georgia] were improperly counted, while tens of thousands of legal votes were not counted."

Please do not forget that Dems are the party that gaslighted the country for four years with Russiagate. That means that the working hypothesis should be that Elections2020 was yet another, final stage of the color revolution against Trump, after Russiagate and Ukrainegate stages, while damaging Trump, failed to remove him from the office.

The outsize role of mail-in  ballots in 2020 Presidential elections

The 2020 election was the first election which was done mainly via so called "mail-in" ballots. and historically mail-in ballots are the source of classic vote fraud. Always were and always will be. They were among the key issues raised 15 years ago by the bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform (known informally as the Carter-Baker Commission) that sound eerily familiar in 2020:

Kay C. James, Carter-Baker Commission member (currently the president of the Heritage Foundation) noted that had Congress and state governments adopted the panel's recommendations, the 2020 postelection mess might have been avoided. The panel stated that absentee and mail-in ballots are the "largest source of potential voter fraud." It suggested the practice of allowing "candidates or party workers to pick up and deliver absentee ballots should be eliminated" entirely.

The commission concluded that states should better track registered voters who move, and election observers should have "unrestricted access" to monitor the system. Voting machines should be checked regularly for accuracy, and reporters should wait to "project" winners until all polls have closed.

Lastly, vote fraud should be prosecuted aggressively. Which is clearly not the case.

Carter-Baker Commission concluded that states should better track registered voters who move, and election observers should have "unrestricted access" to monitor the system. Voting machines should be checked regularly for accuracy, and reporters should wait to "project" winners until all polls have closed. The panel called on states to increase voter ID requirements and be leery of mail-in voting.

Dems exploited COVID-19 epidemics to their advantage and managed to weaken regular protection against ballots harvesting and staffing of mail-in ballots in many states. Ballot harvesting from narcoaddicts, homeless people, illiterate people, completely ignorant people, people demented in some way, etc  pose several  questions:

  1. Is universal voting rights really a right? Is not it a privilege?
  2. If a person can't understand the political situation in the country,  or does not want to understand the situation, why his/her votes should matter? Does recent attempt to increase voter participation masks some nefarious motives on the part of Dem party operatives. Is not attempt to increase voter participation for this category of voters represent a hidden form of ballot staffing with a hypocritical cover up?  For example Stacey Abrams efforts in Georgia (in 2016 Georgia implemented automatic voter registration) clearly are on the edge of voter fraud, or at least in the grey zone. 
    • Abrams and many others blamed her loss on Kemp’s purge of 1.4 million registered voters in his role as Georgia’s secretary of state, which many called a conflict of interest that should have seen him recuse himself from that role amid the election. National Democrats rallied to Abrams’ cause.

      After her defeat, Abrams formed the organization Fair Fight last year to push her policy priorities, and supporters credit her with contributing to an 800,000-person increase in registered voters in Georgia since 2016.

  3. What should be the minimal level of competency below which a person should not be allowed to vote? Should not we introduce some "citizenship exam" like the USA administer to those who want to obtain the US citizenship.  Because below this basic level he/she is not a citizen but a puppet of external forces. He/she does not posses any "free will" in a political domain.  The famous Marxist maxim "illiterate person stands outside of politics" can be expanded to several other situation. Narcoaddicts generally also stand outside of politics too.

  4. Why people should allow oligarchs like Zuckerberg and Bloomberg to spec hundred of millions dollars on elections? Should not this a form of election fraud, and is so  they probably should be jailed for this attempt to interfere with election? 

    • Facebook magnate Mark Zuckerberg and his wife gave a nonprofit $400 million to pay election workers, train poll workers and rent polling locations for the Nov. 3 vote in various states.

      The Zuckerbergs’ largesse is an unprecedented private expenditure on a process long held to be an exclusively public operation and has spurred at least nine lawsuits challenging the effort by the Center for Tech and Civil Life.
       

    • Mike Bloomberg takes big losses after spending over $100 million in Florida, Ohio and Texas. ...Billionaire and former presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg’s more than $100 million investment into three key states fell flat as President Donald Trump appears to have captured all of them.

History of election fraud in the USA

The USA has a very long and rich history of vote fraud. Tammany Hall is 150 years old. Republicans stole the 1876 presidential election, Democrats most probably stole the 1960 elections. Local elections are even more putrid – Ron Paul had a funny story about winning, then “losing” an election.  There were many interesting and educational stories in this domain (Vox Popoli- Mailvox- an analysis of the Powell filing in GA):

Unknown, November 26, 2020 1:32 PM

The fact is this: manipulating elections is a time-honored American tradition! Hanging chads & allegations of fraud in Ohio. Hussein may have used this system in his elections.

The fix was in for HRC but failed because Trump support was stronger than expected.

Daley fixed Cook Co. for JFK in 1960. Hell, Tilden said Hayes cheated him in the 1876 election! Election fraud has a long history.

While Republicans are far from being squeaky clean (remember Bush's "Turd Blossom" -- Karl Rove, who was a master of dirty election tricks ), historically Democrats were always the party of political machines -- Tammany, Pendergast, Cook County.  The favorite method for Dems is staffing of the ballot box, while republicans more rely of voter suppression mechanisms.

As the result, in so called the Solid South the entire section of the country which is larger than the Confederacy, voted Democrat for the better part of a century. See for example,   History of election fraud in the USA

Evidence of fraud in 2020 elections

There is plenty of evidence, both circumstantial and direct that 2020 elections were manipulated, which can be broken down into six basic categories (6 Factors Which Point to a Rigged Election – OffGuardian)

  1. Precedent – It has happened before.

  2. Motive – Deep State/Military dislike of Trump’s policies is widely known.

  3. Foreknowledge – Establishment voices predicted this exact situation and conduction games on how to deal with it

  4. Opportunity – The voting system is highly susceptible to fraud. Especially with  main-in ballots option (mail-in ballots are to a certain extent equivalent to vote fraud, as they represent a perfect instrument to abuse.) How otherwise can Biden get most votes in the history of the U.S.? Semi-senile Biden??  Have you heard how Biden speaks? He has difficulties even with teleprompter. Let me quote Dmitry Orlov: “… Biden is as fit to lead as a pig is kosher after rubbing its side against a corner of a synagogue.” In no way borderline senile Biden appeals to the committed Sanders base.

  5. Voting Irregularities – Known software “glitches” & irregularities in the reporting of the results, strange midnight injections of mail-in ballots; strange pause in counting votes in battleground states, blocking observers, etc.

    Everyone should look at this forensic analysis of the big ballot dumps in Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia in the wee hours of Nov. 4. The chances of getting these one-sided dumps in legitimate elections are less than 0.001, on several metrics. All three state results could and should be overturned on this one finding.

    Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020 https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

     

  6. Cover-up  

    • PA Data Scientist- I Saw USB Cards Being Uploaded to Voting Machines

      I personally observed USB cards being uploaded to voting machines by the voting machine warehouse supervisor on multiple occasions.

      ...So I personally witnessed that happen over 24 times. We have multiple other witnesses who saw it, including Democrat poll watchers.

      Stenstrom said he had been told by U.S. Attorney William McSwain such conduct with USBs and voting machines is unusual.

      As of today, 47 USB cards are missing, and they are nowhere to be found,” added Stenstrom. “I was told personally that these 24 to 30 cards that were uploaded weren’t there.”

       

    • Early calls of MSM for Biden and the upper dishonesty in the reporting of the situation after the elections both in MSM. Strange and inconsistent, if not outright funny behaviour of  Dem party executives in battleground states (yesterday Russia easily had stolen the USA lection; now election somehow can't be stolen and anybody who suggest that is a "conspiracy theorist").  What bothers and shocks me, is how the MSM just plays "see no evil - hear not evil - speak no evil” with its reporting. It’s like watching  the version 2 of Operation Mockingbird in action.
Based of Russiagate gaslighting alone we can assume that pro-Obama pro-globalist factions within the intelligence agencies in the USA and FB are really ready to interfere in the USA elections, have money, methods and motive to do so.

Heuristic metrics also point in the direction of fraud (see also 5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms for some different metrics):

  1. The standard for any legitimate elections is the 'The absence of the "Appearance of Impropriety".' That standard has been violated.  Republicans won all 27 “contested” House seats but somehow Biden won the presidency race? The last election where that happened with even 10 seats was the election of 1960.
  2. Sanders was derailed in Dem Primaries under similar very suspicious circumstances. Somewhat similar with 2020 Elections: a candidate with strong following who previously led by a wide margin  lost to the candidate with health problems and without any attractive platform ("kick the can down the road" platform)
  3. Why we did not get an answer as to why every swing state stopped counting at the same time on election night? From Powell lawsuit we now know in that on election night that ballot counting in Fulton County, GA had suddenly come to a screeching halt due to a burst pipe in the Atlanta Hawks State Farm Arena. Which allow several person to work on computers unsupervised till 1PM. Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a "burst pipe" at Atlanta's State Farm Arena that was blamed for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night.
  4. Over-voting in some counties: the number  of votes cast exceeds the number of voters. More returned mail-in ballots that were sent. Facts in PA when mail-in ballots were return in one day or event he same day.  95% registered voter turnout in Philadelphia. This is close to 100% registered votes participation,  typical for the USSR.
  5. Multiple statistical anomalies
  6. What did the senior Dominion executive meant when he said, “don’t worry, Trump will never ******* win, I made sure of it” Just wondering if he was another Peter Strzok who created "insurance" against the victory of undesirable candidate. Was Mr. Coomer granted illegal access to the Dominion machines in Georgia to do a last minute "software update".  
  7. Democrats who screamed “Russia interference” for four years ago with no evidence, suddenly all and at once became firm believer is the absence of fraud and/or foreign of domestic intelligence agencies interference via electronic voting machines which was in place in the US elections. This is breathtaking hypocrisy. In fact personal who was trained and get admin access to those machines are perfect Trojan house capable of subverting any elections. To say nothing about possible intelligence services manipulation of transmission of vote counts to the central server (which according to some rumors was on Amazon cloud in Frankfurt, Germany). A set of shady companies that effectively conducted the US elections instantly raises questions about intelligence agencies interference. 
  8. Sign of evidence of the destruction of documents about electronic machines and evidence which can be used by opposing side. Which can be used to verify ballots, audit logs that can reveal cases of nullification of undesirable votes (deleting or changing unprocessed ballots which can be artificially failed by the scanner by lowing its sensitivity) by administrators of voting machines, facts of mail-in ballots fraud. If it is true that the identifying inner envelopes were thrown away in Georgia,  that makes recounts of mail-in ballots a waste of time.

    Dominion suddenly decided to move its headquarters and this fact alone suggests that shredding of documents is already in place. It is  impossible to ignore although MSM continues to gaslight us.
     

  9. Documented facts of the lack of signatures to match on mail-in ballots and existence of batches of ballots with only one (presidential) candidate selected. 
  10. Complete absence of statistical analysis of a representative samples of mail-in ballots envelopes for various "red flags" and obtain estimate of percentage of "stolen" votes.  By law envelopes  for mail-in ballots should be stored for several years. Statistic sample can give are estimates about how many dead votes how many people who moved out of state votes and other valuable statistics.  
  11. Legislative maneuvers to weaken the protection against mail-in fraud. Well financed campaign by DNC lawyers such as Marc Elias to change state elections law to allow mail-in ballots. See for example  Nevada mail-in voting law previews looming 2020 legal battles over ballots
  12. According to some testimonies Dominion voting machines, at least on Georgia,  were all the time connected to Internet and  can be controlled remotely.

While for each of those heuristic red flag you can find a plausible "benign" explanation, the fact that they exist simultaneously increases probability the   election was stolen.

For example, the 2020 election in PA has way too much irregularities to access the results at face value: Pennsylvania State Legislature Holds Public Hearing on 2020 Election - YouTube.

One of the most informative segments I have seen on the election issues is  Sidney Powell Lawsuits Reaction & Kraken Analysis, New Exhibits & Filings, Election Fraud Leftovers - YouTube I highly recommend to listen to it if you interested in the weight of accusations against lection officials.  

Jackie Porter 18 hours ago

I do not understand how in the face of this many irregularities across this many states, that Biden could become the President. How do you swear under oath to uphold the Constitution after shredding it to be elected? How does the party consumed with claims of election interference for 4 years, suddenly have zero interest in investigating election interference? Like everything else, it's ok when they do it, nothing to see here.

There are some recent criminal prosecution of  election fraud (Election Fraud In America) so this type of criminal behaviour is not than unusual:

In Texas, Attorney General Ken Paxton announced the arrest of four people, including a county commissioner, for illegal vote harvesting on Sept. 24. The elected official charged in the scheme won his primary election by five votes in 2018 after his opponent held a 19% lead on election night.

The indictments total 123 felony charges for various corrupt election practices. The net result was someone won a race for an important local office—by cheating.

In Pennsylvania the election judge recently was jailed for staffing votes for the candidate who paid him money.

In fact there were 1,298 proven instances of voter fraud with 1,121 criminal convictions Voter Fraud Map- Election Fraud Database - The Heritage Foundation

What types of election fraud we observe and should concentrate on

2020 election exposé a dirty underlining of the US election system. It is not a pretty picture. And in some respect it is far worse that in countries which are usually called banana republic.

Did the criminal action which undeniably occurred affect the outcome of the election? That is a logical question, the answer of which remains unknown. If the answer is "yes," then the "election was stolen." If no, then it wasn't "stolen,"  but still this is a criminal action.  See also

  1. Ballot harvesting -- this is done under noble slogan of "promotions of democracy" and  empowering minorities. But both are as fake as the USA promotion of democracy in foreign countries. Mass usages of mail-in votes, strong efforts of Democratic operatives in weakening of (almost non existent) layers of mail-in ballots security (signature verification individual request for ballots with the proof of residency, delivery to counting centers before 8PM on a voting day, etc)  was a policy supported by Democratic party and pushed exclusively by DNC lawyers, including notorious DNC operative Mark Ellis.  The question is why ? 
  2. Difficulties with observing processing the mail-in ballots and counting created artificially for Republican observers in major metropolitan centers were such fraud historically concentrates. The absence of party observers in processing of mail-in ballots in PA iv very troubling and is enough to invalidate election results,  because this is the area where "low tech" fraud concentrates.   The way these Republican observer were  treated in PA was outright criminal and delegitimizes the elections in this state.
     
  3. Voting Machines Fraud -- the key question is: Why voting machine which inherently are hackable and insecure were used at all ?  Who bought them and from where the money come from?  Was it regular political corruption or something more sinister? In any case it opened the door for the intelligence agencies to participate in the USA Presidential elections.
  4. Suppression of statistical analysis of mail-in ballots fraud. Why no statistical analysis of large, representative samples on envelopes was not conducted for critical states. They will give us an estimated how many dead voters votes and how many out of state voter voted among other things.  This will allow establish margins of error for mail-in ballots and provide some certainty as for were mail-in ballots were the fact of Biden victory or not.

    I do not understand why statistic sampling of address envelopes was not done in key states, especially in Georgia and Pennsylvania, where there are signs of "other irregularities." This will allow to establish the margin of error for mail-in ballots and this is important for Trump. Percentage of dead people voting and out of state people voting can be easily established is the sample is representative and large enough. And this does not cost much Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger can't be missing this so he acts as an enemy of honest and transparent elections.
     
  5. Analysis of over-voting. Overvoting, especially overvoting with mail-in ballots (which according to Giuliani happened in mass scale in PA)  usually suggests the fraud is institutional -- there are bad apples inside. Why cases of over-voting were not analyzed. Why this compulsive desire to swipe the dirt under the carpet and move on.
     
  6. Violations of Benford's law -- generally with  the exception of small precepts election results should follow Benford's law.
    Cases were it is not should be carefully investigated. that was not done. This  constitute obvious red flag.
     
  7. Absence of publicly viewable  24 x7 video surveillance of places where votes are counted strongly suggest on existence of election fraud. Assess to rooms were votes were counted in certain cases, based on available video , extremely lax.  Possibility of voter counter to bring in fraudulent mail-in ballots and/or to the that same batch again and again in tabulator were high. Electronic surveillance is strong deterrent against unlawful action of corrupt voting clerks (for example discarding of votes and running the same batch of votes via tabulator multiple times). While not panacea they help to prevent or at least make it more difficult partisan hacks doing their  dirty job.  Chain of custody of ballot should be well defined line for evidence in any criminal trial. Also no actions on ballots, including transportation, should be permitted in the absence of observers from both parties and mail ballots should generally limited to such number as not to effect the result of election, even if this mean disenfranchising of some voters.
     
  8. Attempts to concentrate vote counting in some central locations
     
  9. Attempts to block party observers from observing votes counting, especially processing of mail-in votes, where most fraud concentrates.

There is no alternative to paper ballots and hand counting under video surveillance
 directly at voting places after their closing with the certification of results by observers from both parties

What events of 2020 demonstrates that there is no any viable alternative to paper ballots and hand counting (probably assisted by simplest, banknote counting type tabulators).  Also ballots themselves should be produced like banknotes (and using all appropriate technologies) with several layers of protection to prevent duplications.  In this sense Tulsi was a visionary because she warned about exactly about those types of fraud that we observe in 2020 election and proposed universal return to paper ballots. Natually she never found any support in the US Congress. Both parties are interested in maintaining the status quo. The fraudulent status quo. 

Paper ballot should be produced like banknotes with built-in security mechanisms like watermarks, so that they can't be replicated using copying machines. This is especially important for mail-in votes (which generally should be prohibited without strong proof of their need from the voter and limited to people with at least three years IRS returns in the particular state).

Democrat party lawyers maneuvers before the election under the umbrella of caring for minority voters is pure hypocrisy. Dems are the party of Wall Street, and in no way they represent minority voters.

24 x 7 video surveillance with public access to tapes via special web sites is 101 of any election transparency and it is unclear why such simple measures were never implemented in the USA. Those stories about unmarked vans delivering mail-in ballots in the middle of the night are really characterize the USA as a country with voting system worse that in so called  banana republic.

Further delegitimization of neoliberal oligarchy rule

One of the major domestic achievements of Trump administration is the expose of evilness and the lack of legitimacy of neoliberal oligarchy (Washington swamp, deep state, etc) rule. In this sense Russiagate is more important story then 2020 Presidential election, because in this case national security state really run amok,

The many allegations of fraud in the 2020 election may be the subject of controversy, litigation, and even civil unrest for possibly years to come.

As Republicans so often do, Sidney Powell has damaged her credibility by alleging that the Venezuelan government and assorted communists played a role in orchestrating vote fraud, a red herring on a par with Democratic Party claims of Russian interference in the 2016 election. If the CIA and/or NSA did in fact use cyber-warfare techniques to manipulate the outcome, they most certainly did not do so at the behest of Hugo Chavez. And if they did tamper with the vote totals, they will have ample opportunity to wipe the evidence.

But many legitimate question remain.

Known Red Flags

Here are several red flags that observers are highlighted with the regard of 2020 elections:

The evidence

The evidence which make more plausible the election "was stolen" and that there were a widespread fraud is growing. Here Is The Evidence You can watch the recent Ron Paul Liberty report where Daniel McAdam (an actual elections observer) listed a list of red flags. Summary of his findings:

  1. Every state that has had a delay has seen Biden has overtaken trump AFTER the delays were announced - Red flag
  2. Florida counted 10.5M votes in less than 24 hours, Georgia couldn't count 4.8M in 48 hours, why? - Red Flag
  3. In PA, the courts have barred all accredited observers from observing the vote - Red Flag
  4. In Detroit, the ballot counting centers barred windows and expelled observers, why? - Red Flag
  5. David Lim (Obama's former speech writer) sent a tweet out on Nov 4 (AFTER the election) asking for volunteers in Georgia to help people fix their mail in ballots so that they count, why? - Red Flag
  6. Participation in one PA county reached 90% turn out, beating the prior record that had stood for more than 100 years and almost 30% higher than the last election in 2016. Other PA counties saw voter numbers exceed 100% of registered voters compared to the last election, even accounting for same day registration this is statistically improbable- Red Flag

If you put in the effort to investigate this issue with an open mind you will find more evidence of suspicious activity during this election (First Thoughts on the Election, by Kevin MacDonald - The Unz Review)

The folks who firmly believe that Putin rigged the 2016 election and studiously ignore how supposedly neutral platforms like Google, Twitter, and Facebook have tilted their coverage in favor of the Democrats, now would have us believe that Democrats would not do anything to cheat. Given the long history of corruption in Chicago politics, it wouldn’t be at all surprising if Chicago Mayor Richard Daley swung the 1960 election to JFK. So it seems reasonably to suppose such things could happen in 2020 Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. And there’s no question that at least some of the people in charge are activists for the Dems. Jocelyn Benson, Michigan Secretary of State in charge of elections, was a board member of the SPLC. Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was a Plan B already decided on before the election.

Electronic voting machines do not have a paper trail, so in those cases the verification if voter fraud occurred is very difficult, if possible a all (Flashback- Philadelphia Judge Admitted Stuffing Ballots for Cash.) The USA does not allow foreign observers to verify the absence of irregularities during the voting.

Dominion  uses a very sinister looking scheme in which they put on the ballot special code (QR code) which might not corresponds to the voter intention but it is the code which is tabulated. As such Dominion machines has zero integrity and transparency.  Any IT specialist will tell you that QR code can be programmed in such a way that decoding of it would reveal that voter had chosen this is that candidate, but processing will be in favor of opposing candidate. Kind of steganography. This is a completely "black box" mechanism with zero integrity and transparency.

Also auditing the code of voting machines probably can't be accomplished during the timeframe allowed. 

Some suggestions

Increase the role of observers to the role of jury in criminal trials.

Observers should enter the verdict legitimate/illegitimate at the and of voters countering with 66% of observers voting for need to recognize the elections as legitimate. That will cut the instances where observers were blocked formt he counting f bulletin process.

Install 24 x 7 videosurvellance of counting of votes with cameras directly over the tables and release those tapes to public via special websites.

This is a no brainier but video surveillance matter only if there are no electronic voting machines or tabulators on the floor.

Counting of votes is public service and there should no secrecy in it. And it limits possibility of certain types of fraud, for example, discarding valid bulletins or "curing" invalid. Ensure transparency of ballot counting. All counting should be videotaped. Observers from both parties should be present.

Discard electronic voting machines and tabulators

Technology now is so sophisticated that scanning paper ballots is not a problem and it ensure abuses like "click-click-click" fraud when a corrupt election official goes to the booth and makes several hundred fraudulent votes via the machine.

Prohibit counting of votes outside of the original location and unless one or better two observers from each party are present

This is another no brainer. Any transportation of bulleting from the place where voting took place is an open invitation to fraud. Also the higher is the centralization of bulleting counting, the larger scale of votes manipulation will go unnoticed.

Install observers in USPS post offices during the day of elections and allow reps of both parties to control shipping of containers with mailed ballots. Prohibit any shipping of ballots after the elections are closed on election day.

No ballot received after the deadline should ever be counted. It should be entered into database as "late". All containers with ballots should be delivered to the counting location the same day. No exceptions.

On arrival to the counting location all mail-in ballots need to be timestamped, numbered and scanned.

Equipment for numbering should be removed the next day, making it easier to block attempts to insert fraudulent batches of votes. No personal bags should be allowed to the space where voting is performed.

Entrance to every counting location should be guarded 24x8 by police and all employers and all cars entering the garage should be checked.

Only authorized cars can enter garage. All employees should be checked so that they can't carry fake bulletins with them.

Prohibit ballot harvesting; improve signature verification mechanisms

Ballots harvesting is an invitation to fraud. Fraudulent ballots usually iether do not have signature at all or forged signatures, or wrong addresses. This avenue of election fraud should be completely and reliably blocked.

End the big money dominance of our electoral process The case, when Facebook implicitly hijacked the US elections should be prohibited.

In a democracy, public elections should be publicly financed. In Maine and Arizona, publicly financed elections have enabled people to run for office who would never have dreamed of running under a system dominated by big money interests. We, as voters, need to own our elections, rather than allow the process to be controlled by the wealthy few.

We also need to enact mandatory limits on campaign spending. In 1976, the Supreme Court wrongly struck down mandatory campaign spending limits for congressional elections. Massachusetts should help lead the way with campaign spending limits for our elections.

Ensure non-partisan election administration

The Secretary of the Commonwealth must be a Secretary for all of us, regardless of party affiliation. The Secretary should not be allowed to serve as a co-chair of campaigns of candidates. To ensure the people's trust in the integrity of our elections, the Secretary must conduct the administration of elections in a non-partisan manner.


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[Jul 23, 2021] Pennsylvania Decertifies County's Voting System, Cites Violation Of Election Code

So the voting system should be treated as a black box fully controlled by Dominion staff, right? That's an interesting turn of the events.
Jul 23, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com
JUL 22, 2021

Authored by Mimi Nguyen Ly via The Epoch Times,

Pennsylvania 's top election official has decertified the voting system of rural Fulton County for future elections, saying that an election assessment by a third party had violated the Keystone State's election code, according to a release on Wednesday.

Acting Secretary of State Veronica Degraffenreid, an appointee of Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf, informed the Fulton County Board of Elections that she "did not arrive at this decision lightly."

Wake Technology Services Inc. (Wake TSI), a software company based in West Chester, Pennsylvania, had carried out an election assessment that involved its workers visiting Fulton County in December 2020 and in early February.

The company in May released a report that concluded the election was "well-run" and did not indicate any signs of fraud in Fulton County. However, five "issues of note" were uncovered , three of which are related to Dominion Voting Systems , whose electronic voting system was used in the county for the 2020 election.

"While these may seem minor, the impact on an election can be huge," Wake TSI said of the five issues. At the time, Dominion disputed the report's findings.

The Pennsylvania Department of State said in a statement on Wednesday that Wake TSI's access to the Fulton County's voting system "undermined the chain of custody requirements and strict access limitations necessary to prevent both intentional and inadvertent tampering with electronic voting systems."

It added that the "unauthorized access" prevents the vendor -- Dominion -- from "affirming that the system continues to meet state and federal certification standards."

Fulton county officials had allowed Wake TSI to "access certain key components of its certified system, including the county's election database, results files, and Windows systems logs," and to "use a system imaging tool to take complete hard drive images of these computers and other digital equipment," the department noted.

"These actions were taken in a manner that was not transparent," Degraffenreid said in her letter to Fulton County officials on Tuesday. She said the access given to Wake TSI has caused Fulton County's voting system to be "compromised," and that neither the county, state officials, nor Dominion could now "verify that the impacted components of Fulton County's leased voting system are safe to use in future elections."

"I have no other choice but to decertify the use of Fulton County's leased Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5A voting system last used in the November 2020 election," Degraffenreid wrote.

The Fulton County Board of Elections and Wake TSI did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The Pennsylvania Department of State previously said that a risk-limiting audit of the 2020 election has confirmed the state's election results.

The Pennsylvania Capital-Star reported that Fulton County needed to pay $25,000 to lease new equipment for its municipal elections in May, because Dominion refused to let the county use the voting machines that Wake TSI had accessed. According to the outlet, Dominion told the county that it violated its contract in letting a unaccredited and non-certified company inspect the machines.

Wake TSI's assessment in Fulton County was "set" by Pennsylvania Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican, according to a Dec. 31, 2020 document signed by the company that was obtained and published by the Arizona Mirror and The Washington Post. Wake TSI said in its report that Mastriano and Pennsylvania Sen. Judy Ward, also a Republican, "were aware of our efforts."

The document also said that Wake TSI was "contracted to Defending the Republic," a nonprofit founded by lawyer Sidney Powell, who has alleged that widespread fraud occurred in the 2020 election.

Mastriano earlier this month issued letters to York, Tioga, and Philadelphia counties requesting that they voluntarily submit information and materials by July 31, to enable what he calls a "forensic investigation" of the 2020 and 2021 elections. He told The Epoch Times that he seeks for an investigation that would be "a big deep dive, like we saw in Arizona, but even deeper."

Wake TSI was also involved in the election audit still underway in Arizona's Maricopa County up until its contract expired in May. The audit in Maricopa County was ordered by the Arizona state Senate's Republican majority. Dominion machines in Maricopa County will also be replaced .

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, said the machines were not tampered with during the audit and questioned the Board of Supervisors' decision to get new machines.

"If their experts can't prove the machines have not been tampered with, then how does the [Secretary of State's office] or County Elections certify the machines before every audit to make sure the machines haven't been tampered with?" she asked in June.

[Jul 16, 2021] Arizona Election Audit- Maricopa County Stonewalling - Will Not Turn Over Routers, Chain Of Custody, Ballot Images As Discrep

Comments suggest high level of discontent amount this selected category of US citizens. How large is such a group is anybody guess, but just the existence of such a group is a threat to the current neoliberal system in which corruption is systemic indeed.
Jul 15, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (1352ET): Oddly, right as Senate President Karen Fann suggested that auditors may not be able to determine whether a ballot had been duplicated once, or ten times, YouTube pulled the feed we had originally embedded , claiming it violated their Terms of Service.

An alternate stream has been embedded below.

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The Arizona Senate is holding a public briefing with leaders of the ongoing election audit authorized by Senate President Karen Fann.

Fann is joined by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Peterson, along with Senate audit liaison Ken Bennett and the leaders of two of the vendors hired to conduct the audit, Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan and CyFIR founder Ben Cotton, according to KTAR .

Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7OZmNbBDQ6k

More via KTAR :

Cyber Ninjas was hired as lead contractor for the audit, which started April 23 after the Senate won a legal battle with Maricopa County for access to election equipment and approximately 2.1 million ballots from the November 2020 general election in metro Phoenix.

Fann told KTAR News 92.3 FM's The Mike Broomhead Show on Tuesday that the number ballots tallied during the audit didn't match the total documented by Maricopa County, but she didn't know how far off the counts were.

Most audit operations have wrapped up, but counting machines are being used to recheck of the total number of ballots, a process that was expected to continue into next week.

Audit officials have said a final report was expected to be released in late July or August.

The U.S. House Oversight and Reform Committee sent Logan a letter Wednesday requesting documentation about Cyber Ninjas' role in the audit, funding and possible connections to former President Donald Trump or his surrogates.

Cyber Ninjas had no previous experience conducting election audits. Fann's selection of the Florida-based firm's $150,000 bid quickly drew scrutiny over Logan's deleted Twitter account, which had activity supporting unfounded election conspiracy theories.

The low bid doesn't cover the cost of the operation, expected to be in the millions, and fundraising has been taking place in the name of the audit.

Fann has said the aim of the process is to restore faith in the election system and find ways to improve Arizona's voting laws, not to reverse the result of the election.

However, many Trump supporters see it as a step toward invalidating President Joe Biden's victory and returning Trump to office.

[Jul 05, 2021] Drop the Georgia Election Lawsuit by The Editorial Board

Jul 05, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Attorney General Merrick Garland is the front-runner so far for 2021's bad timing prize. The Justice Department last month rushed out a lawsuit claiming that Georgia's new election law violates Section 2 of the 1965 Voting Rights Act only days before the Supreme Court laid down standards that make the lawsuit a nearly certain loser.

Justice knew the likely timing of the Court's ruling in Brnovich v. DNC, so a fair guess is that Mr. Garland succumbed to White House and progressive pressure to make a political statement to support Democratic efforts in Congress to federalize state election laws in H.R.1.

Bad call. Now federal judges hearing the case will have to contend with Justice Samuel Alito's five principles in Brnovich as they assess the Georgia statute.

It won't be easy to find legal fault under those principles. Mere voting inconvenience can't be considered disqualifying, since all voting imposes some inconvenience. Any specific voting provision, such as the number of drop boxes, must also be considered in the overall context of a state's voting rules. Georgia's rules are generally lenient and don't especially burden the ability of minorities to vote.

Perhaps Justice can find a federal judge somewhere to rule against Georgia, but such a ruling is unlikely to survive on appeal to higher courts. The legal and political result of the lawsuit is therefore likely to vindicate Georgia Republicans during the 2022 election season or leading up to 2024, depending on how the lawsuits proceed. Mr. Garland would be wise to drop the suit in light of Brnovich, lest his term at Justice be marred by the continuation of this patently political lawsuit.

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Robert Amrine

Given what we have seen of Mr. Garland thus far in his questionable legal performance as AG, it is looking like the Republicans were prescient in blocking his appointment to the Supreme Court.
David Schmidt
Politics will always supersede good judgment.
DON WILLINGHAM
Yep, apparently its a burden for some of the libs to put a stamp on an ballot and mail it it (I'm going one step beyond the extraordinary burden of getting off your behind to go to a local polling location).
paul grunder
Looks like Coca Cola and Major L. baseball made a mistake. do you think they will have second thoughts about leaving GA.? I know I now love Pepsi and don't watch baseball much at all anymore. You can bet someone in each organization is saying, how do we save face over this. p's wife
Brien Akers
None of this matters. Not lawsuits, not SCOTUS rulings, not State election laws, not lower court rulings. None of it matters. Why? Because the Democrats know that they cannot win without cheating as surely as they know the sun is going to rise tomorrow. That means they will simply ignore all the laws and do they same thing in 2024 that they did in 2020. Ask yourself this: Who's going to stop them? Question number two: Who will reverse the election results?
DON WILLINGHAM
Tell us what citizen cannot vote in the next election? (no, felons don't count). Its not hard to vote. Besides, where were all the whiners 4 years ago, 8 years, 20 years ago if GA's laws were so restrictive. This is such nonsense.
Greg Elsden
I say keep going, Garland. Your party is known for epic fails (eg Russian Delusion and two impeachments).
Steven S
The chances of DoJ voluntarily dismissing its lawsuit against Georgia's more-lax-and-liberal-than-Delaware's voting regulations are somewhere between slim and none.

And Slim has left town.

Litigation of this kind takes years to wind its way through the lower courts and to reach SCOTUS. By then, the Supreme Court could be packed with Justices of the same mindset as the dissenters in Brnovich.

Only the "Jim Crow" Filibuster stands in the way of court packing.

David Alan
Another reminder that we dodged a bullet by not sending Merrick Garland through to SCOTUS.
Robert Bridges
Amen to that. He isn't a moderate after all...
Jim Walsh
Democrats need the issue so that they can continue to use minorities, who they truly think are too stupid to vote. It is insulting and stupid,
James Stock
Garland is really just a bureaucrat with a law degree. Deep down, he doesn't believe is this ridiculous lawsuit. He made a deal with the devil by working for an incompetent president.

[Jun 26, 2021] Senate Republicans Block Democrats' Election-Law Push - WSJ

Jun 22, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The voting measure has inflamed Republicans, who accused Democrats of engaging in demagoguery.

"This bill is brazen," said Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas), ticking off a list of provisions in the Democratic bill that he called damaging, including one that would shrink the Federal Election Commission to five from six members, which he said would enable the president to turn the agency into a weapon against political rivals. Mr. Cruz accused Democrats of "deliberately inflaming racial tensions" by attacking policies like requiring voter identification that Republicans say are designed to protect the integrity of the vote.

... ... ...

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.), the sponsor of the Senate bill, a version of which cleared the House in March , told CNN on Monday that there are ways to advance voting legislation that would involve changing the filibuster, which requires three-fifths of the Senate, or currently 60 members, to end debates and vote on most legislation.

"Fifty members getting into a room and deciding how we go forward will be kind of another stage of how we proceed," Mr. Merkley said later on a call with activists.

The pressure-cooker environment in which the debate lands was highlighted by nascent campaigns inside and outside the Capitol. Republicans are calling attention to a provision in the Democrats' bill that would allow signatures in lieu of voter identification cards, saying such a policy could be abused and would weaken trust in the validity of elections. A Monmouth University poll released Monday found that 80% of Americans support requiring voters to show photo identification to cast ballots.

Meanwhile, the progressive group Just Democracy is running ads aimed at Ms. Sinema, suggesting that she is weak on voting policy because she hasn't come out in support of ending the filibuster to make voting legislation possible.

Ms. Sinema is up for re-election in 2024. Her state is currently roiled by an audit of votes cast in 2020 in Maricopa County, which Mr. Biden won, and is defending some of its voting rules at the Supreme Court.

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Michael Quick

Ending the filibuster may get Democrats everything that the want for another 18 months. But they will not be able to keep the legislation that they have passed.

As soon as control of both chambers and the White House passes to the other party, they very quickly will repeal each and every bit of legislation that had been passed by the Democrats.

At that point, Republicans will be able to pass absolutely everything that they want, probably for 18 months.

By ending the filibuster we will get national laws that change with every change of administration.

Aren't we better off, keeping the filibuster, so that nothing is ever accomplished by either party? Deadlock.

Deadlock pleases politicians and the primary voters in their party, but it frustrates the 80% of Americans who are moderates. They want Congress to act to deal with the country's problems. But deadlock it will be.

[Jun 20, 2021] Bovard Blasts Biden's Buffoonish War On Extremism

Notable quotes:
"... ...the prerogative to define extremism includes the power to attempt to banish certain ideas from acceptable discourse. The report warns that "narratives of fraud in the recent general election"¦ will almost certainly spur some [Domestic Violent Extremists] to try to engage in violence this year." ..."
"... If accusations of 2020 electoral shenanigans are formally labeled as extremist threats, that could result in far more repression (aided by Facebook and Twitter) of dissenting voices. ..."
Jun 20, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

...the prerogative to define extremism includes the power to attempt to banish certain ideas from acceptable discourse. The report warns that "narratives of fraud in the recent general election"¦ will almost certainly spur some [Domestic Violent Extremists] to try to engage in violence this year."

If accusations of 2020 electoral shenanigans are formally labeled as extremist threats, that could result in far more repression (aided by Facebook and Twitter) of dissenting voices.

How will this work out any better than the concerted campaign by the media and Big Tech last fall to suppress all information about Hunter Biden's laptop before the election?

The Biden administration is revving up for a war against an enemy which the feds have chosen to never explicitly define . According to a March report by Biden's Office of the Director of National Intelligence, "domestic violent extremists" include individuals who "take overt steps to violently resist or facilitate the overthrow of the U.S. government in support of their belief that the U.S. government is purposely exceeding its Constitutional authority." But that was the same belief that many Biden voters had regarding the Trump administration. Does the definition of extremism depend solely on which party captured the White House?

The report notes that the "Department of Defense is reviewing and updating its definition of prohibited extremist activities among uniformed military personnel." Bishop Garrison, the chief of the Pentagon's new Countering Extremism Working Group, is Exhibit A for the follies of extremist crackdowns on extremism. In a series of 2019 tweets, Garrison, a former aide to Hillary Clinton, denounced all Trump supporters as "racists." Garrison's working group will "specifically define what constitutes extremist behavior" for American soldiers. If Garrison purges Trump supporters from the military, the Pentagon would be unable to conquer the island of Grenada. Biden policymakers also intend to create an "anti-radicalization" program for individuals departing the military service. This initiative will likely produce plenty of leaks and embarrassing disclosures in the coming months and years.

The Biden report is spooked by the existence of militia groups and flirts with the fantasy of outlawing them across the land. The report promises to explore "how to make better use of laws that already exist in all fifty states prohibiting certain private "˜militia' activity, including"¦state statutes prohibiting groups of people from organizing as private military units without the authorization of the state government, and state statutes that criminalize certain paramilitary activity." Most of the private militia groups are guilty of nothing more than bluster and braggadocio. Besides, many of them are already overstocked with government informants who are counting on Uncle Sam for regular paychecks.

As part of its anti-extremism arsenal, DHS is financing programs for "enhancing media literacy and critical thinking skills" and helping internet users avoid "vulnerability to"¦harmful content deliberately disseminated by malicious actors online." Do the feds have inside information about another Hunter Biden laptop turning up, or what? The Biden administration intends to bolster Americans' defenses against extremism by developing "interactive online resources such as skills-enhancing online games." If the games are as stupefying as this report, nobody will play them.

The Biden report stresses that federal law enforcement agencies "play a critical role in responding to reports of criminal and otherwise concerning activity." "Otherwise concerning activity"? This is the same standard that turned prior anti-terrorist efforts into laughingstocks.

Fusion Centers are not mentioned in the Biden report but they are a federal-state-local law enforcement partnership launched after 9/11 to vacuum up reports of suspicious activity. Seventy Fusion Centers rely on the same standard""" If you see something, say something """that a senior administration official invoked in a background call on Monday for the new Biden initiative. The Los Angeles Police Department encouraged citizens to snitch on "individuals who stay at bus or train stops for extended periods while buses and trains come and go," "individuals who carry on long conversations on pay or cellular telephones," and "joggers who stand and stretch for an inordinate amount of time." The Kentucky Office of Homeland Security recommended the reporting of "people avoiding eye contact," "people in places they don't belong," or homes or apartments that have numerous visitors "arriving and leaving at unusual hours," PBS's Frontline reported. Colorado's Fusion Center "produced a fear-mongering public service announcement asking the public to report innocuous behaviors such as photography, note-taking, drawing and collecting money for charity as "˜warning signs' of terrorism," the ACLU complained.

Various other Fusion Centers have attached warning labels to gun-rights activists, anti-immigration zealots, and individuals and groups "rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority." A 2012 Homeland Security report stated that being "reverent of individual liberty" is one of the traits of potential right-wing terrorists. The Constitution Project concluded in a 2012 report that DHS Fusion Centers "pose serious risks to civil liberties, including rights of free speech, free assembly, freedom of religion, racial and religious equality, privacy, and the right to be free from unnecessary government intrusion." Fusion Centers continue to be bankrolled by DHS despite their dismal record.

The Biden report promises that the FBI and DHS will soon be releasing "a new edition of the Federal Government's Mobilization Indicators booklet that will include for the first time potential indicators of domestic terrorism""related mobilization." Will this latest publication be as boneheaded as the similar 2014 report by the National Counterterrorism Center entitled "Countering Violent Extremism: A Guide for Practitioners and Analysts"?

As the Intercept summarized , that report "suggests that police, social workers and educators rate individuals on a scale of one to five in categories such as "˜Expressions of Hopelessness, Futility,' "¦ and "˜Connection to Group Identity (Race, Nationality, Religion, Ethnicity)' "¦ to alert government officials to individuals at risk of turning to radical violence, and to families or communities at risk of incubating extremist ideologies." The report recommended judging families by their level of "Parent-Child Bonding" and rating localities on the basis in part of the "presence of ideologues or recruiters." Former FBI agent Mike German commented, "The idea that the federal government would encourage local police, teachers, medical, and social-service employees to rate the communities, individuals, and families they serve for their potential to become terrorists is abhorrent on its face."

The Biden administration presumes that bloating the definition of extremists is the surest way to achieve domestic tranquility. In this area, as in so many others, Biden's team learned nothing from the follies of the Obama administration. No one in D.C. apparently recalls that President Obama perennially denounced extremism and summoned the United Nations in 2014 to join his "campaign against extremism." Under Obama, the National Security Agency presumed that "someone searching the Web for suspicious stuff" was a suspected extremist who forfeited all constitutional rights to privacy. Obama's Transportation Security Administration relied on ludicrous terrorist profiles that targeted American travelers who were yawning, hand wringing, gazing down, swallowing suspiciously, sweating, or making "excessive complaints about the [TSA] screening process."

Will the Biden crackdown on extremists end as ignominiously as Nixon's crackdown almost 50 years earlier? Nixon White House aide Tom Charles Huston explained that the FBI's COINTELPRO program continually stretched its target list "from the kid with a bomb to the kid with a picket sign, and from the kid with the picket sign to the kid with the bumper sticker of the opposing candidate. And you just keep going down the line." At some point, surveillance became more intent on spurring fear than on gathering information. FBI agents were encouraged to conduct interviews with anti-war protesters to "enhance the paranoia endemic in these circles and further serve to get the point across that there is an FBI agent behind every mailbox," as a 1970 FBI memo noted. Is the Biden castigation campaign an attempt to make its opponents fear that the feds are tracking their every email and website click?

Biden's new terrorism policy has evoked plenty of cheers from his Fourth Estate lapdogs. But a Washington Post article fretted that the administration's report did not endorse enacting "new legal authority to successfully hunt down, prosecute, and imprison homegrown extremists." Does the D.C. media elite want to see every anti-Biden scoffer in the land put behind bars? This is typical of the switcheroo that politicians and the media play with the terms "terrorists" and "extremists." Regardless of paranoia inside the Beltway, MAGA hats are not as dangerous as pipe bombs.

The Biden report concludes that "enhancing faith in American democracy" requires "finding ways to counter the influence and impact of dangerous conspiracy theories." Bu t permitting politicians to blacklist any ideas they disapprove won't "restore faith in democracy." Extremism has always been a flag of political convenience, and the Biden team, the FBI, and their media allies will fan fears to sanctify any and every government crackdown. But what if government is the most dangerous extremist of them all?

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James Bovard is the author of Lost Rights , Attention Deficit Democracy , and Public Policy Hooligan . He is also a USA Today columnist. Follow him on Twitter @JimBovard .

[Jun 20, 2021] Georgia Secretary Of State Outlines 100,000 Names To Be Cut From Voter Rolls - ZeroHedge

Jun 20, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Zachary Steiber via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours) ,

Georgia's secretary of state this week announced he is set to remove some 100,000 names from voter rolls , the first major voting list maintenance following the 2020 election.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger holds a press conference on the status of ballot counting in Atlanta, Ga., on Nov. 6, 2020. (Jessica McGowan/Getty Images)

The names are being removed because of a National Change of Address form submitted to the U.S. Postal Service, election mail being sent to them bouncing back; or having no contact with elections officials for at least five years.

" Making sure Georgia's voter rolls are up to date is key to ensuring the integrity of our elections, " Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger , a Republican, said in a statement.

"That is why I fought and beat Stacey Abrams in court in 2019 to remove nearly 300,000 obsolete voter files before the November election, and will do so again this year. Bottom line, there is no legitimate reason to keep ineligible voters on the rolls ," he added.

The case in question saw Abrams, a failed gubernatorial candidate, take Raffensperger to court through her group Fair Fight Action. A judge ruled against the plaintiffs, but Raffensperger's office eventually reinstated 22,000 names because, it said, it was interpreting a state law differently. Fair Fight Action claimed the reinstatement came due to their case.

Critics said they'd be reviewing the list of names set to be removed.

Voters stand in line to cast their ballots during the first day of early voting in the U.S. Senate runoff, in Atlanta, Ga., on Dec. 14, 2020. (Jessica McGowan/Getty Images)

"The last time Secretary Raffensperger conducted a massive voter purge, he was forced to admit 22,000 errors -- 22,000 Georgia voters who would have been kicked off the rolls were it not for Fair Fight Action's diligence. We'll be reviewing the list thoroughly and reaching out to impacted voters," Lauren Groh-Wargo, CEO of Fair Fight Action, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution .

The major maintenance is taking place separately from regular monthly removals of names for felony convictions and deaths. It's the first major effort since 2019. Raffensperger's office cited federal law as to why no such undertaking happened last year.

Voters who want to see if they face removal can visit this website . They will be able to block their removal if they provide information within about a month.

Voters who are ultimately removed can reregister.

The number of removals is 1.3 percent of Georgia's registered voters.


1 hour ago

Amazing how 100,000 votes here and 100,000 votes there can swing an election. play_arrow 26 play_arrow


Solomonpal 1 hour ago

Or triple counted ballots and mysteriously appearing boxes from under the tables. View the tapes and consider the source.

SoDamnMad 1 hour ago

Shout out here to Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shayne Moss for that "under the table" trick.

Not Your Father's ZH 40 minutes ago (Edited)

Riggers, eh? };^D ====> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/ <====

WE CAUGHT THEM: President Trump Warned Raffensperger and His Attorney Ryan Germany About Election Fraud – New Evidence Shows Germany Was Made Aware of Election Fraud on Election Night And Hid This From President Trump

IT WAS A VOTER FRAUD FACTORY: 2nd Carter Jones Report Describes Complete Breakdown of GA Election Systems -- BALLOTS EVERYWHERE, NO CHAIN OF CUSTODY, COMPLETE DISARRAY and WE HAVE THE VIDEO

systemsplanet 20 minutes ago

Raffensperger got a kick back for installing Dominion voting machines to fix the election.

personal109 4 minutes ago

Raffensperger better lawyer up, and while he's at it, get a criminal lawyer, he's gonna need it.

KirkPatrickN 51 minutes ago

100,000 fake votes here, 100,000 fake votes there, and pretty soon your talkin' "real" "President" who got 81M votes, the all time record, when Trump broke the previous all time record with 73M. The same year.

Pro_sanity 46 minutes ago (Edited)

And the one who got 81M couldn't fill a middle school gym during the campaign. The other overflowed major sports arenas with spillout to the streets.

Not Your Father's ZH 35 minutes ago (Edited)

Because rayzism.

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[Jun 20, 2021] The shades of election fraud

Jun 20, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Not Your Father's ZH 6 hours ago (Edited)

Georgia's Dominion Voting System Implementation Manager Gabe Sterling Negotiated a $144,000 Salary Increase for Himself Last Year ===> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/ <===

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Multiple Individuals Pushed Stacks of Ballots through Tabulators Multiple Times in Georgia. This Is Illegal. Law Enforcement Did Nothing.

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Boris Epshteyn: Subpoenas Are Being Prepared in Pennsylvania for Another Audit (VIDEO)

Maricopa Audit Liaison Says They Need to Investigate Anomalies" Like 52 Ballots Submitted From a Two-Bedroom Home

PANIC IN THE PEACH STATE: Fulton County Georgia Defense Attorneys File Motion to Prevent Scheduled Testimony of Dirtbag Richard Barron on Monday

International Auditor: Maricopa County Audit Report Not Expected for 8 Weeks "" A Potential Sign There Are Numerous Issues to Inventory and Report

[Jun 12, 2021] Georgia County Election Officials Subpoenaed in Historic Fraud Case - News Punch

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Three Georgia county election officials have been hit with subpoenas to testify in a historic fraud case regarding the 2020 ballot count, according to reports.

Fulton County poll workers Wandrea Shaye Moss and her mother Ruby Freeman have been ordered to give depositions regarding events during the 2020 election count.

Freeman and Moss were central to the after-hours ballot-counting operation at State Farm Arena during the presidential election.

Beckernews.com reports: David Makever Alligood and Ruby Freeman were both served affidavits to give videotaped depositions. Freeman is notorious for being suspected of election malfeasance during the 2020 election. Among those activites were dragging out boxes of ballots from under a table after election observers were wrongfully sent home early at State Farm Arena.

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The sworn deposition will provide an opportunity for Freeman to explain her videorecorded activities.

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Ruby Freeman's daughter, who was actually her boss, was also subpoenaed to explain herself before the court.

Wandrea Shaye Moss also participated in dragging out boxes of ballots after she personally sent election observers home early. She would then run stacks of ballots through tabulators on video, some of them multiple times. She will provide a videotaped deposition on June 10, provided that she shows up.

Fulton County election officials are taking the probe very seriously. They have hired two top criminal defense attorneys for the case, even though the court is not adjudicating criminal charges.

"The Fulton County Board of Registration & Elections has hired two of Georgia's top criminal defense attorneys & filed paperwork to halt the audit proceedings previously ordered by the judge," Heather Mullins of Real America's Voice noted.

The two attorneys, Donald Samuel and Amanda Palmer, are affiliated with the high-powered Garland, Samuel and Loeb law firm in Atlanta.

The Fulton County lawsuit has prompted a much-anticipated election audit that will put physical ballots under further inspection. The ballot inspection will hopefully resolve what fair-minded observers witnessed on video: Fulton County election officials appearing to run stacks of ballots through tabulation machines multiple times on election night.

[May 29, 2021] Judge Postpones Georgia Election Audit After County Hires Criminal Defense Attorneys, Files Motion To Dismiss - ZeroHedge

May 29, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times,

A judge in Georgia told parties in an election integrity case on May 27 that a previously scheduled meeting at a ballot storage warehouse was canceled after officials filed a flurry of motions in the case .

Media crews film while election workers process absentee ballots at State Farm Arena in Atlanta on Nov. 2, 2020. (Megan Varner/Getty Images)

Henry County Superior Court Judge Brian Amero said a May 28 meeting was no longer taking place because of motions filed by Fulton County , the county's Board of Registration and Elections, and the county's clerk of Superior and Magistrate Courts, a spokesperson for the court confirmed to The Epoch Times.

Amero said the motions must be heard before the plaintiffs can gain access to the absentee ballots. He proposed a June 21 hearing, but the order scheduling the hearing hasn't yet been filed.

"It seems like a desperation move. The silver lining is that we now have more time to perfect the changes we had to make in our inspection plan," Garland Favorito, the lead petitioner, told The Epoch Times via email.

County officials argued that the complaint filed by voters should be dismissed because the petitioners failed to serve, or even attempt to serve, the county. They also said Fulton County doesn't have final control over elections, that petitioners aren't entitled to declaratory judgment, and that petitioners haven't complied with election contest requirements.

Amero heard in a hearing last week that petitioners weren't able to properly examine ballot images they've received because of their low resolution -- 200 dots per inch (DPI). Amero granted the petitioners' request to unseal the mailed ballots and said they could go to where they were stored in order to observe county workers create higher resolution images of the ballots.

Amero mentioned during the hearing that no parties had filed a motion to dismiss, allowing petitioners to obtain some discovery.

During the hearing, lawyers for the county urged the judge not to grant access to the ballots.

Before the latest update in the case, some officials had supported the ballot examination.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, opposed letting petitioners get access to the ballots , but said he supported Amero's ruling.

"From day one, I have encouraged Georgians with concerns about the election in their counties to pursue those claims through legal avenues. Fulton County has a long standing history of election mismanagement that has understandably weakened voters' faith in its system. Allowing this audit provides another layer of transparency and citizen engagement," he told The Epoch Times in an email.

However, Democrat Fulton County Commission Chairman Robb Pitts criticized the attempt to examine the ballots.

"It is outrageous that Fulton County continues to be a target of those who cannot accept the results from last year's election," he told news outlets in a statement.

[May 28, 2021] Florida, in a First, Will Fine Social Media Companies That Bar Candidates

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(nytimes.com) 371 Posted by msmash on Monday May 24, 2021 @04:00PM from the how-about-that dept. Florida on Monday became the first state to regulate how companies like Facebook, YouTube and Twitter moderate speech online , by imposing fines on social media companies that permanently bar political candidates in the state. From a report:

The law, signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis, is a direct response to Facebook's and Twitter's bans of former President Donald J. Trump in January. In addition to the fines for barring candidates, it makes it illegal to prevent some news outlets from posting to their platforms in response to the contents of their stories. Mr. DeSantis said signing the bill meant that Floridians would be "guaranteed protection against the Silicon Valley elites."

"If Big Tech censors enforce rules inconsistently, to discriminate in favor of the dominant Silicon Valley ideology, they will now be held accountable," he said in a statement. The bill is part of a broader push among conservative state legislatures to crack down on the ability of tech companies to manage posts on their platforms. The political efforts took off after Mr. Trump was barred after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Lawmakers around the country have echoed Mr. Trump's accusations that the companies are biased against conservative personalities and publications, even though those accounts often thrive online. More than a hundred bills targeting the companies' moderation practices have been filed nationwide this year, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Many of the bills have died, but a proposal is still being debated in Texas.

[May 24, 2021] New Hampshire Election Auditors Find Ballot -Fold- Issue, Only 28% Of GOP Votes Counted In One Machine - ZeroHedge

May 24, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

New Hampshire Election Auditors Find Ballot "Fold" Issue, Only 28% Of GOP Votes Counted In One Machine BY TYLER DURDEN MONDAY, MAY 24, 2021 - 12:50 PM

Authored by Samuel Allegri via The Epoch Times,

Auditors for a 2020 election investigation being carried out in Windham, New Hampshire, are saying that some of their latest findings are "large enough to account for discrepancies" in the election results.

Auditors said they found "experimental confirmation that if the contest is undervoted, a fold through a vote target can create a vote."

"Something we strongly suspect at this juncture, based on various evidence, is that in some cases, fold lines are being interpreted by the scanners as valid votes," Mark Lindeman, part of the audit team, told WMUR .

Harri Hursti, another auditor, said on Twitter that testing proved folded ballots were misinterpreted by machines.

"Test decks proved that foldings across a vote targets is misinterpreted as additional phantom votes or subtracts votes due to false overvotes," he wrote in a post.

Auditors finished the hand recount on May 21. The audit began on May 11.

AccuVote didn't respond to a request for comment about the audit authorization by the Epoch Times. The AccuVote machines' intellectual property are owned by Dominion Voting Systems.

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Windham's four state representative seats were all won by Republicans on Election Night. The presidential election was not an item for this audit.

Democrat candidate Kristi St. Laurent, who lost by a narrow margin of 24 votes, requested an audit ( pdf ) claiming that the machines were improperly programmed, and that double voting was involved.

As a result, New Hampshire's Republican Gov. Chris Sununu, signed a bill last month that gave authorization for forensic analysis and a comprehensive recount of the 2020 election votes in Windham related to optical scanning AccuVote machines.

An automatic recount was done, resulting in St. Laurent losing 99 more votes after a hand recount. Meanwhile, four Republicans gained about 300 votes each.

The other three Democrats gained between 18 and 28 votes.

The audit team said that more issues could be involved besides folded ballots being misinterpreted.

"The fold effect is large enough to account for discrepancies, but might not be all that's going on," the team said on Twitter on May 22.

"75 folded ballots voted straight Republican. Only 48 votes recorded for them. Folds generated overvotes. This is machine used on Election Day [for] most absentee ballots."

Another machine was found to have "an even more dramatic problem" by the auditors, who said that only 28 percent of the votes for Republican candidates were counted.

"The work is not completed yet. While the folding seems to be a strong contributor it clearly is not the only factor," Hursti said on Sunday.

"For example: We have observed vastly different error rates on two machines processing the same ballots. Work continues."

[May 24, 2021] Vulnerabilities in Billions of Wi-Fi Devices Let Hackers Bypass Firewalls by Dan Goodin

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May 21, 2021

One of the things that makes Wi-Fi work is its ability to break big chunks of data into smaller chunks and combine smaller chunks into bigger chunks, depending on the needs of the network at any given moment. These mundane network plumbing features, it turns out, have been harboring vulnerabilities that can be exploited to send users to malicious websites or exploit or tamper with network-connected devices, newly published research shows.

In all, researcher Mathy Vanhoef found a dozen vulnerabilities, either in the Wi-Fi specification or in the way the specification has been implemented in huge numbers of devices. Vanhoef has dubbed the vulnerabilities FragAttacks , short for fragmentation and aggregation attacks, because they all involve frame fragmentation or frame aggregation. Broadly speaking, they allow people within radio range to inject frames of their choice into networks protected by WPA-based encryption.

Bad news FURTHER READING Serious flaw in WPA2 protocol lets attackers intercept passwords and much more Assessing the impact of the vulnerabilities isn't straightforward. FragAttacks allow data to be injected into Wi-Fi traffic, but they don't make it possible to exfiltrate anything out. That means FragAttacks can't be used to read passwords or other sensitive information the way a previous Wi-Fi attack of Vanhoef, called Krack , did. But it turns out that the vulnerabilities -- some that have been part of Wi-Fi since its release in 1997 -- can be exploited to inflict other kinds of damage, particularly if paired with other types of hacks.

"It's never good to have someone able to drop packets into your network or target your devices on the network," Mike Kershaw, a Wi-Fi security expert and developer of the open source Kismet wireless sniffer and IDS, wrote in an email. "In some regards, these are no worse than using an unencrypted access point at a coffee shop -- someone can do the same to you there, trivially -- but because they can happen on networks you'd otherwise think are secure and might have configured as a trusted network, it's certainly bad news."

He added: "Overall, I think they give someone who was already targeting an attack against an individual or company a foothold they wouldn't have had before, which is definitely impactful, but probably don't pose as huge a risk as drive-by attacks to the average person."

While the flaws were disclosed last week in an industry-wide effort nine months in the making, it remains unclear in many cases which devices were vulnerable to which vulnerabilities and which vulnerabilities, if any, have received security updates. It's almost a certainty that many Wi-Fi-enabled devices will never be fixed.

Rogue DNS injection

One of the most severe vulnerabilities in the FragAttacks suite resides in the Wi-Fi specification itself. Tracked as CVE-2020-24588, the flaw can be exploited in a way that forces Wi-Fi devices to use a rogue DNS server, which in turn can deliver users to malicious websites rather than the ones they intended. From there, hackers can read and modify any unencrypted traffic. Rogue DNS servers also allow hackers to perform DNS rebinding attacks , in which malicious websites manipulate a browser to attack other devices connected to the same network.

The rogue DNS server is introduced when an attacker injects an ICMPv6 Router Advertisement into Wi-Fi traffic. Routers typically issue these announcements so other devices on the network can locate them. The injected advertisement instructs all devices to use a DNS specified by the attacker for lookups of both IPv6 and IPv4 addresses.

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An exploit demoed in a video Vanhoef published shows the attacker luring the target to a website that stashes the router advertisement in an image.

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FragAttacks: Demonstration of Flaws in WPA2/3.

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In an email, Vanhoef explained, saying, "The IPv6 router advertisement is put in the payload (i.e. data portion) of the TCP packet. This data is by default passed on to the application that created the TCP connection. In the demo, that would be the browser, which is expecting an image. This means that by default, the client won't process the IPv6 router advertisement but instead process the TCP payload as application data."

Vanhoef said that it's possible to perform the attack without user interaction when the target's access point is vulnerable to CVE-2021-26139 , one of the 12 vulnerabilities that make up the FragAttacks package. The security flaw stems from a kernel flaw in NetBSD 7.1 that causes Wi-Fi access points to forward Extensible Authentication Protocol (AP) over LAN frames to other devices even when the sender has not yet authenticated to the AP.

It's safe to skip ahead, but for those curious about the specific software bug and the reason the video demo uses a malicious image, Vanhoef explained:

To make the victim process the TCP payload (i.e. data portion) as a separate packet, the aggregation design flaw in Wi-Fi is abused. That is, the attacker intercepts the malicious TCP packet at the Wi-Fi layer and sets the "is aggregated" flag in the Wi-Fi header. As a result, the receiver will split the Wi-Fi frame into two network packets. The first network packet contains part of the original TCP header and is discarded. The second packet corresponds with the TCP payload, which we made sure will now correspond to the ICMPv6 packet, and as a result, the ICMPv6 router advertisement is now processed by the victim as a separate packet. So proximity to the victim is required to set the "is aggregated" Wi-Fi flag so that the malicious TCP packet will be split into two by the receiver.

The design flaw is that an adversary can change/set the "is aggregated" flag without the receiver noticing this. This flag should have been authenticated so that a receiver can detect if it has been modified.

It's possible to perform the attack without user interaction when the access point is vulnerable to CVE-2020-26139. Out of four tested home routers, two of them had this vulnerability. It seems that most Linux-based routers are affected by this vulnerability. The research paper discusses in more detail how this works -- essentially, instead of including the ICMPV6 router advertisement in a malicious TCP packet, it can then be included in an unencrypted handshake message (which the AP will then forward to the client after which the adversary can again set the "is aggregated" flag etc).

Punching a hole in the firewall

Four of the 12 vulnerabilities that make up the FragAttacks are implementation flaws, meaning they stem from bugs that software developers introduced when writing code based on the Wi-Fi specification. An attacker can exploit them against access points to bypass a key security benefit they provide.

Besides allowing multiple devices to share a single Internet connection, routers prevent incoming traffic from reaching connected devices unless the devices have requested it. This firewall works by using network address translation, or NAT, which maps private IP addresses that the AP assigns each device on the local network to a single IP address that the AP uses to send data over the Internet.

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The result is that routers forward data to connected devices only when they have previously requested it from a website, email server, or other machine on the Internet. When one of those machines tries to send unsolicited data to a device behind the router, the router automatically discards it. This arrangement isn't perfect , but it does provide a vital defense that protects billions of devices.

Vanhoef figured out how to exploit the four vulnerabilities in a way that allows an attacker to, as he put it, "punch a hole through a router's firewall." With the ability to connect directly to devices behind a firewall, an Internet attacker can then send them malicious code or commands.

In one demo in the video, Vanhoef exploits the vulnerabilities to control an Internet-of-things device, specifically to remotely turn on and off a smart power socket. Normally, NAT would prevent a device outside the network from interacting with the socket unless the socket had first initiated a connection. The implementation exploits remove this barrier.

FURTHER READING Microsoft practically begs Windows users to fix wormable BlueKeep flaw In a separate demo, Vanhoef shows how the vulnerabilities allow a device on the Internet to initiate a connection with a computer running Windows 7, an operating system that stopped receiving security updates years ago. The researcher used that ability to gain complete control over the PC by sending it malicious code that exploited a critical vulnerability called BlueKeep .

"That means that when an access point is vulnerable, it becomes easy to attack clients!" Vanhoef wrote. "So we're abusing the Wi-Fi implementation flaws in an access point as a first step in order to subsequently attack (outdated) clients ."

Getting your fix

Despite Vanhoef spending nine months coordinating patches with more than a dozen hardware and software makers, it's not easy to figure out which devices or software are vulnerable to which vulnerabilities, and of those vulnerable products, which ones have received fixes.

This page provides the status for products from several companies. A more comprehensive list of known advisories is here . Other advisories are available individually from their respective vendors. The vulnerabilities to look for are:

Design flaws:

CVE-2020-24588 : aggregation attack (accepting non-SPP A-MSDU frames) CVE-2020-24587 : mixed key attack (reassembling fragments encrypted under different keys) CVE-2020-24586 : fragment cache attack (not clearing fragments from memory when (re)connecting to a network)

Implementation vulnerabilities allowing the injection of plaintext frames:

CVE-2020-26145 : Accepting plaintext broadcast fragments as full frames (in an encrypted network) CVE-2020-26144 : Accepting plaintext A-MSDU frames that start with an RFC1042 header with EtherType EAPOL (in an encrypted network) CVE-2020-26140 : Accepting plaintext data frames in a protected network CVE-2020-26143 : Accepting fragmented plaintext data frames in a protected network

Other implementation flaws:

CVE-2020-26139 : Forwarding EAPOL frames even though the sender is not yet authenticated (should only affect APs) CVE-2020-26146 : Reassembling encrypted fragments with non-consecutive packet numbers CVE-2020-26147 : Reassembling mixed encrypted/plaintext fragments CVE-2020-26142 : Processing fragmented frames as full frames CVE-2020-26141 : Not verifying the TKIP MIC of fragmented frames

The most effective way to mitigate the threat posed by FragAttacks is to install all available updates that fix the vulnerabilities. Users will have to do this on each vulnerable computer, router, or other Internet-of-things device. It's likely that a huge number of affected devices will never receive a patch.

The next-best mitigation is to ensure that websites are always using HTTPS connections. That's because the encryption HTTPS provides greatly reduces the damage that can be done when a malicious DNS server directs a victim to a fake website.

Sites that use HTTP Strict Transport Security will always use this protection, but Vanhoef said that only about 20 percent of the web does this. Browser extensions like HTTPS everywhere were already a good idea, and the mitigation they provide against FragAttacks makes them even more worthwhile.

As noted earlier, FragAttacks aren't likely to be exploited against the vast majority of Wi-Fi users, since the exploits require a high degree of skill as well as proximity -- meaning within 100 feet to a half-mile, depending on the equipment used -- to the target. The vulnerabilities pose a higher threat to networks used by high-value targets such as retail chains, embassies, or corporate networks where security is key, and then most likely only in concert with other exploits.

When updates become available, by all means install them, but unless you're in this latter group, remember that drive-by downloads and other more mundane types of attacks will probably pose a bigger threat. Promoted Comments

Artem S. Tashkinov , As long as you're using DoT/DoH and HTTPS, you're safe.

When I'm networking I always assume the network I'm connected to is completely compromised, so all my devices use these things and are properly firewalled in which case these attacks are pretty much worthless.

While only new versions of Android support DoT out of the box on the system level, Google has recently added the support for DoH to Chrome, so in case your device is running an older version of Android you might want to enable DoH in Chrome to feel safe.

And as for Firefox it's had the support for DoH for years. I've gone as far as to set network.trr.mode to 2 in about:config to be extra safe. 3 is even better: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Trusted_Recursive_Resolver 178 posts | register

[May 16, 2021] There is a suspicion among cynics like myself that GOP bossmen conspired with DNC to rig 2020 for the opposition.

May 16, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

chunga 8 hours ago

They have a lot of work to do. There is a suspicion among cynics like myself that GOP bossmen conspired with DNC to rig 2020 for the opposition.

Moribund Mitch was congratulating Catatonic Joe while the election was still contested and GA runoff polls were still open. Mike Pence folded up like a ten dollar suitcase.

SurfingUSA 7 hours ago remove link

"Suspicion" ????

Those facts are locked down. See the following GOP champions of Domino Ion Voting with documented roles in getting the equipment and obstructing investigations:

Note Domino Ion election management is to an extent a front for the CCP.

chunga 7 hours ago

The recount thing in AZ is a stunt as far as I'm concerned. Nobody ever bothered to question suitcase girl. It is inexplicable.

YuriTheClown 7 hours ago

Don't do the China thing. That is the Republican version of Russia! Russia! Russia!

While I am sure China spreads the cheese around we all know it's the Giewash Mob banking cartel that is firmly in control. The Cartel can shut off Chinese Cheese in a heart beat when desired. They just like using other people's money.

19331510 3 hours ago

Main street does not want perpetual wars, why do you think Trump was elected for a second time?

Miniminer1 8 hours ago

CNN and the msm will keep putting her on TV like she's important and telling their few viewers she might be president and will go after evil trump and thereby keeping the brainwashing alive . Keep fighting for justice president trump!!!

No_Pretzel_Logic 7 hours ago

CIA News Network is 100% Deep State operated.

I can flip to that channel anytime of day and within 120 seconds I am pointing at the TV and saying, "Liars!"

It is almost completely Pravda-programming and remains a real threat to this country. Same with MSDNC.

YuriTheClown 7 hours ago

You watch TV????

aegis551 8 hours ago

Cheneys is a neocons and a globalist. Hopefully the good people of Wyoming can see that and kick this POS to the curb.

Paul Bunyan 8 hours ago

Darth Cheney is not pleased the GOP has discredited his daughter. I am sure he and the Bushes will be doing everything they can to keep Trump from running in '24.

SPACE-CADET 8 hours ago

Little Bush killed 10,000 americans and over 1 million Iraq.

He retired to Texas with a cushy pension.

Paul Bunyan 8 hours ago (Edited)

Never mind the pension. The Bushes are American royalty and British royals before it. His mother Barbara is a Pierce, as in the former POTUS and NYC banking dynasty. Everyone knows CIA asset George Sr. Then there is patriarch Prescott who was a Senator, a banker with the Harrimans ( THE bank that funneled Nazi money through Wall Street) and a Scull and bonesman (as was GHWB and GWB). Then there is Uncle Bert Walker, where both names Herbert and Walker come from. This man traces both names back to British royalty, where both the Herberts and Walkers ruled on the British courts for hundreds of years. So for pensions, these families have power and wealth that can not be imagined.

YuriTheClown 7 hours ago

Nah. As per Eustace Mullins ( a national treasure his recordings )

Bushes are high functionaries

arby63 7 hours ago

They all hated Trump because he wasn't in the club. This scum Cheney is a name I've had to endure for 40 years.

Thats why they hated Trump. He wasn't one of them.

[May 14, 2021] Dominion, Maricopa County Rebuff Arizona Senate's Attempt To Get Election Machine Passwords - ZeroHedge

May 14, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

Dominion Voting Systems and Maricopa County officials are refusing to hand over passwords for election machines to auditors in Arizona.

Contractors working for Cyber Ninjas, which was hired by the Arizona Senate, examine and recount ballots from the 2020 general election at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, Ariz., on May 1, 2021. (Courtney Pedroza/Getty Images)

Dominion said in a statement to news outlets on Thursday that it would comply with the audit, but Cyber Ninjas, the firm hired by the Arizona Senate to conduct it along with three other companies, is not accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

" Releasing Dominion's intellectual property to an unaccredited, biased, and plainly unreliable actor such as Cyber Ninjas would be reckless, causing irreparable damage to the commercial interests of the company and the election security interests of the country ," Dominion said. "No company should be compelled to participate in such an irresponsible act."

Cyber Ninjas did not respond to a request for comment.

Maricopa County officials previously said that they did not have passwords to access administrative functions on Dominion Voting Systems machines that were used to scan ballots during the election, according to the Senate's audit liaison, former Republican Secretary of State Ken Bennett.

"They've told us that they don't have that second password, or that they've given us all the passwords they have," Bennett told One America News at the site of the audit in Phoenix last week.

The county is also withholding routers from auditors , claiming security concerns.

Both routers or router images and access to election machines were part of the materials the state Senate subpoenaed late last year. A judge in February ruled that the subpoenas were valid and should be obeyed.

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, recently threatened to subpoena county officials if they didn't stop their noncompliance with the subpoenas, but backed off the threat in a letter on May 12.

Instead, she asked Maricopa County Board of Supervisors Chairman Jack Sellers, also a Republican, to cooperate voluntarily by attending an upcoming meeting at the state Capitol to go over the audit issues.

Fann said auditors have found discrepancies in the ballot count, including one batch that was supposed to be 200 but only numbered 165. She also said the audit teams found an entire database directory from an election machine had been deleted, and that the main database for the election management system software was not located anywhere on the machine, suggesting that the main database for all data related to the 2020 election had been removed.

Sellers on Thursday indicated he would not attend the meeting and disputed the allegations.

Deleting files off the server "would be a crime -- and it is not true," he said.

"After reviewing the letter with County election and IT experts, I can say that the allegations are false and ill-informed. Moreover, the claim that our employees deleted election files and destroyed evidence is outrageous, completely baseless, and beneath the dignity of the Arizona Senate," he added, calling for an immediate retraction of statements senators and their liaison team made on social media and to the press.

The Board of Supervisors, which held a closed-door emergency meeting on Friday, plans on holding a public meeting on Monday to address the matter.

Fann, an Arizona Senate Republican Caucus spokeswoman, and the liaison team did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Maricopa County ballots cast in the 2020 general election are examined and recounted by contractors working for Florida-based company, Cyber Ninjas, at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, Ariz., on May 6, 2021. (Matt York/Pool/AP Photo) Auditors Pack Up as Senate Signs Lease to Extend Audit

Auditors, meanwhile, began packing up on Thursday evening because the audit will take a break due to scheduling conflicts.

The audit has been taking place at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum on the state fairgrounds in Phoenix. High school graduations are scheduled to take place at the building beginning May 15.

Hand counting stopped at 7 p.m. on Thursday and workers began collapsing tables and preparing to move ballots to another location.

About 500,000 of the nearly 2.1 million ballots cast in Maricopa County in the 2020 election have been counted in the audit, according to Bennett.

The Arizona Senate signed an extension to their original agreement that allows auditors to store materials in the Wesley Bolin Building, which is also on the state fairgrounds, from May 12 to May 23.

The approximately 19,000-square foot building has a large open floor plan and two large roll-up doors, according to the Arizona State Fair website.

"Due to temperatures during the summer months, this building is not recommended for use between May through September," the site states.

Bennett told The Epoch Times in a previous interview that the materials will be secure and that the site at which they'll be stored can be tracked online via 24-hour streaming, just like the audit itself.

" There's no deadline for the audit ," Bennett said. " The goal is not speed; the goal is accuracy and completeness. "

The audit teams can resume occupancy of the coliseum on May 23 and use it until June 30, according to a copy of the extended agreement obtained by The Epoch Times .

The original scope of work document from Cyber Ninjas said reviewing voter registration and votes case would take approximately 20 days and that work would be conducted remotely. The vote counting phase would take about 20 more days, it said, while the electronic voting system phase would take some 35 days.

But all three of those phases could be carried out simultaneously, according to the firm. An additional week was said to be required after completing everything else to finalize reporting.

The audit started on April 23.

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[May 12, 2021] The repetitive use of the term of "baseless" does not make it so.

May 12, 2021 | www.wsj.com

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The repetitive use of the term of "baseless" does not make it so. G Gregory Dolinajec

How would Liz Cheney, Kristina Peterson (writer of this column) or anyone else ( including William Barr) know whether Trump is correct or not.? The obfuscation created by governors, legislatures and judges made the process inscrutable. I personally believe it more likely than not that Trump is correct.

The repetitive use of the term of "baseless" does not make it so. No one can possibly ever know. The Supreme Court had the opportunity to examine it. Justices Thomas and Alito were correct, the court should have taken the Texas case. Cheney obviously hates Trump. That's what motivates her -- not some higher cause.

The repetitive use of the term of "baseless" does not make it so. G Gregory Dolinajec
How would Liz Cheney, Kristina Peterson (writer of this column) or anyone else ( including William Barr) know whether Trump is correct or not.? The obfuscation created by governors, legislatures and judges made the process inscrutable. I personally believe it more likely than not that Trump is correct.

The repetitive use of the term of "baseless" does not make it so. No one can possibly ever know. The Supreme Court had the opportunity to examine it. Justices Thomas and Alito were correct, the court should have taken the Texas case. Cheney obviously hates Trump. That's what motivates her -- not some higher cause.

The repetitive use of the term of "baseless" does not make it so. G Gregory Dolinajec
How would Liz Cheney, Kristina Peterson (writer of this column) or anyone else ( including William Barr) know whether Trump is correct or not.? The obfuscation created by governors, legislatures and judges made the process inscrutable. I personally believe it more likely than not that Trump is correct.

The repetitive use of the term of "baseless" does not make it so. No one can possibly ever know. The Supreme Court had the opportunity to examine it. Justices Thomas and Alito were correct, the court should have taken the Texas case. Cheney obviously hates Trump. That's what motivates her -- not some higher cause.

[May 06, 2021] Maricopa County Defies Subpoena, Won't Release Hardware For Election Audit Over 'Security Risk'

May 06, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (1400ET) : Wow, something must be really worrying Democrats?

There appears to be a full court press effort to delay and defer any and every effort to audit Maricopa County's election results. The Biden justice department added to pressure from Arizona's chief elections officer (a Democrat) and the Arizona Democratic Party, and now, Daniel Payne at JustTheNews.com reports that officials in Arizona's Maricopa County are withholding materials subpoenaed by the state legislature as part of its audit of the county's 2020 election , claiming that surrendering them would constitute a security risk for both law enforcement and federal agencies.

A Monday letter sent from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office to Ken Bennett, the former Arizona secretary of state and the liaison between the state Senate and the auditors, said the county had elected not to turn over "several routers" requested by the legislature due to an alleged "significant security risk to law enforcement data utilized by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office as well as numerous federal agencies."

Given that President Biden is the most popular president ever and we know from the mainstream media that there was no, none, zip, nada, election fraud anywhere in America, why are Democrats so aggressively interfering in the process of auditing the county's election?

* * *

Update (1300ET): Shortly after Arizona's top elections officer raised concerns about the Maricopa County election audit process, the Biden Department of Justice piled on, expressing concern about ballot security and potential voter intimidation.

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As AP reports, in a letter to GOP Senate President Karen Fann, the head of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division said the Senate's farming out of 2.1 million ballots from the state's most populous county to a contractor may run afoul of federal law requiring ballots to remain in the control of elections officials for 22 months.

And Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Pamela S. Karlan said that the Senate contractor's plans to directly contact voters could amount to illegal voter intimidation.

"Past experience with similar investigative efforts around the country has raised concerns that they can be directed at minority voters, which potentially can implicate the anti-intimidation prohibitions of the Voting Rights Act," Karlan wrote.

"Such investigative efforts can have a significant intimidating effect on qualified voters that can deter them from seeking to vote in the future."

So, Democrats play the race-card again?

"We are very concerned that the auditors are engaged in ongoing and imminent violations of federal voting and election laws," said the letter sent by the Brennan Center for Justice, the Leadership Conference and Protect Democracy.

Why are they so worried? They already told America there was no fraud?

* * *

As The Epoch Times' Mimi Nguyen Ly detailed earlier, Arizona's top elections officer Katie Hobbs on Wednesday alleged multiple points of concern regarding the forensic audit of the 2020 presidential election currently underway in Maricopa County .

In a letter ( pdf ) to former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, a Republican who is the state Senate's liaison for the audit, Hobbs outlined 13 points of concern over how the audit is being run. This included seven points of concern over counting procedures that the state Senate and audit contractor Cyber Ninjas disclosed, as well as six points of concern over what her observers saw at the audit site.

Under terms of a lawsuit settlement filed on Wednesday, defendants Bennett, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, and the lead auditor, Florida-based Cyber Ninjas have 48 hours to respond to Hobbs' concerns. If the concerns are not addressed, Hobbs could take them back to court for breach of contract.

The audit began on April 23 and continues at Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, a venue the auditors have booked and secured until May 14.

Hobbs, a Democrat, alleged that the procedures governing the audit do not ensure accuracy, security, and transparency.

"I'm not sure what compelled you to oversee this audit, but I'd like to assume you took this role with the best of intentions," she told Bennett in the letter.

"It is those intentions I appeal to now: either do it right, or don't do it at all."

The Arizona Democratic Party filed a last-minute lawsuit against state Senate leadership to try to stop the audit from going ahead but their bid to immediately halt it was rebuffed by a judge. The settlement means the case has concluded.

"The settlement in ADP v Fann requires the Senate to have procedures to protect our ballots, election equipment, and data. Today, I put the Senate on notice that security shortfalls remain and must be addressed under the agreement," Hobbs said in a statement.

The official Twitter account for the audit, run by Bennet's team, said late on Wednesday that Hobbs "continues to make baseless claimes [sic] about this forensic audit but has never led an election audit in her entire career."

The message declared, "The audit continues!"

The group furthermore encouraged Twitter users to retweet if they think audits are a state right. Another statement released later on Wednesday reads:

"Democrat [Secretary of State Katie Hobbs] who does not support election audits or transparency now wants the Federal Government to get involved in the Arizona Senate forensic audit. Arizona has the authority to conduct this audit without interference from the Feds!"

Bennett did not immediately respond to a request for comment over the contents of Hobbs' letter.

He told the Arizona Capitol Times late Wednesday of Hobbs' concerns, "I think that most of the things in her letter are completely unfounded . And the ones that have a little bit of legitimacy can be dealt with pretty easily."

Bennett did not elaborate as to what concerns would fall into the latter category.

Real-time camera footage of Maricopa County's large-scale audit of the 2020 election, Maricopa County, Ariz. (Screenshot/The Epoch Times)

Among the seven concerns based on the disclosed procedures, Hobbs alleged that there were "no procedures for hiring qualified, unbiased counters." She noted that former State Representative Anthony Kern, a Republican, has been among the people counting the ballots in the audit.

Kern's name is listed on the ballot "not only as a candidate for State Representative but as a Presidential Elector -- the exact race for which he is counting," Hobbs wrote, adding, "While these facts would be disqualifying in any professional recount or audit, unfortunately, there are additional reasons why Mr. Kern is not trustworthy to fulfill this role."

Hobbs in her letter also took aim at a number of procedures that she said "appear better suited for chasing conspiracy theories than as a part of a professional audit," which included using UV lights to search for watermarks, measuring the thickness of ballots, searching for folds in ballots, and looking at ballots under a microscope.

She said these measures are "completely unnecessary steps if the goal of the audit is to validate the election results."

She also questioned how tally sheets from ballot counters would be added up, and noted that her office had "received no real explanation" over the matter "other than that an accounting firm will handle it later."

"This is not transparency. Further, it appears that a single person enters the totals from the tally sheets into an electronic spreadsheet, leaving wide open the opportunity for error, inadvertent or otherwise," she wrote. "At minimum, a bipartisan team of at least two individuals should aggregate the tally sheets or otherwise confirm that data is entered accurately for aggregation."

In addition to concerns over the disclosed procedures, Hobbs alleged in her letter that observers from her office have seen a number of problems, which include inadequate physical security of ballots, unattended computers at the forensic analysis tables, constantly changing rules in the audit procedures since the beginning of the audit, and "frequent violations" of the procedures that do exist.

The Arizona Republican-led Senate previously hired four out-of-state firms to carry out the audit, which are Wake Technology Services, CyFIR, Digital Discovery, and Cyber Ninjas.

The state Senate has said that the " broad and detailed " audit "will validate every area of the voting process" and includes, but is not limited to, scanning all the ballots, a full hand recount, auditing the voter registration and votes cast, the vote counts, and the electronic voting system. This includes examining some 2.1 million ballots, as well as voting equipment that includes 385 tabulators.

Bennett told The Epoch Times on Monday that the audit may last longer than originally planned. An analysis of the equipment used in the 2020 election was completed over the weekend, but reviewing other materials will need more time, he said.

President Joe Biden was the first Democratic presidential nominee to win Maricopa County in decades.

[Apr 26, 2021] Now, this should be interesting

Apr 26, 2021 | turcopolier.com

" as a condition, the judge insisted that the Dems post a $1 million bond to cover potential costs incurred as a consequence of the delayed recount. And, by the afternoon, the outlet said, the state party had indicated it wouldn't do so.

That cleared the way for the recount to go on as planned.

Earlier this week, Senate Republicans exercised a subpoena to move voting equipment and ballots from county storage to the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum, where they have said a team will spend a month doing a hand recount and forensic audit.

According to the Post, Senate leaders have said the process is intended only to explore ways to improve future elections, not to cast doubt on Biden's win by more than 10,000 Arizona votes over Trump.

But the recount has been slammed by Dems and other critics and voting rights advocates as lacking proper oversight and having potential to perpetuate baseless claims of an illegitimate election outcome.

Trump insisted for weeks following the vote that he'd been defeated only because of rampant, systemic fraud. He filed numerous lawsuits, but they gained no traction ; Biden was sworn in, as scheduled, on Jan. 20.

Comment: "but they gained no traction" Oh BS! The damned judges and boards would not hear the evidence! The worst was SCOTUS who would not hear Texas' suit against Pennsylvania in what was a matter of Original Jurisdiction for SCOTUS, i.e., a dispute between states as sovereign entities.

The result of this re-count will be interesting. pl

https://www.newsmax.com/us/arizona-fraud-recount/2021/04/23/id/1018813/

  1. Sam says: April 25, 2021 at 4:06 pm

    The question is if they're just gonna count the ballots or first verify that the ballot is valid by comparing signature to voter roll if it is a Mail-in ballot? If the latter what are the criteria to verify signature compliance? Reply

    • Avatar Deap says: April 25, 2021 at 8:19 pm

      Looks like they will be using special scanners, ala Jovan Pulitzer's pattern detection technology, to determine the initial validity of the ballot itself- scanning for water marks, creases and machine-made markings.

      This comes from someone who observed what looked like this sort of equipment was present on a table, from the in-house surveillance cameras. Not confirmed.

      Since the goal is surveying for in inherent voting procedure flaws that would undermine any election integrity, this would be a reasonable up front physical ballot evaluation to make.

      How can you mail in a ballot that has no creases? Put it in a large envelope is one way – perfectly valid. Thousands of them – all for one candidate? All with the exact same down ballot choices?

      No watermarks – someone took the money for himself and hired the cheapest bidder to print up non-water marked ballots and sent them out as "official" – and there was no double checking?

      Machine printed ballots, filled out at home. Handicap accommodations? How many ways to Sunday can phony ballots be added into the final count. How may ways to Sunday ballot anommolies can finally be explained.

      How to reverse engineer as many possible methods of voting fraud as can be speculated. Everyone wins in this case, even if any one favored candidate does not win the final new vote count in the long run.

      Look for loop holes, build in every imaginable level of fraud prevention. We can settle for nothing less. But first we have to know all the ways to Sunday voting fraud can possibly take place. Democrats should be joining in this speculation – surely Stacey Abrams would want to know more about her "stolen" Georgia governors race election. She might have been on to this a lot earlier than 2020. Reply

    • Avatar JohninMK says: April 26, 2021 at 7:18 am

      They are doing a lot more than just count the ballots, its going to take them a month. I don't know but I assume, as everything else is being double checked, that signatures are being validated against those previously held on file.

      Longer answer below. Reply

  2. Avatar Eric Newhill says: April 25, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    AZ still has enough deplorables in the population that the Governor and a lot of the state legislature retains the will to fight the woke bolshies. AZ recently joined other states in a commitment to defy the federal government on whatever attacks they make on the second amendment.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/montana-governor-signs-bill-to-protect-second-amendment-from-federal-gun-restrictions?fbclid=IwAR1k6PWol-GZd9BpihmdskM_B7XiU5IpBb5VfCl3IVqBCzwY1SnCgZXTPjA

    Pretty sure that if the recount/audit shows that Trump actually won AZ, we are all going to hear about it. That fact would lend support to the state fighting back against Washington (DC?) in whatever manner the state sees appropriate. Reply

  3. Avatar Antoinetta III says: April 25, 2021 at 4:08 pm

    Will we be able to trust the results of this re-count any more than we can trust the outcome of the election? Reply

    • Avatar English Outsider says: April 25, 2021 at 7:33 pm

      I can no longer remember whether Arizona was one of the States where the evidence was destroyed. Hope not. Reply

    • Avatar Deap says: April 25, 2021 at 8:25 pm

      Does that not answer your own question? How indeed does one know there is a valid vote count. Looks like a lot more failsafe mechanisms need to be put in place. This new survey will be a good place to get started adding deeper transparency to the process. Continuing to use vote counting systems that cannot be made transparent is one way not to ensure vote count integrity.

      A couple of layers that need a lot more transparency: valid registration; valid ballots; valid counting; valid reporting. . Reply

    • Avatar JohninMK says: April 26, 2021 at 7:14 am

      I think the answer to that question is yes.

      For a start it is being done under the unblinking gaze of 9 CCTV always online to the Internet.

      Every aspect of the votes is being checked from signatures to mail in ballot folds, visually and with UV. All ballets sent for manual intervention in November are being digitally rechecked.

      The hardware and its firmware, comms links and associated software is also being pulled apart.

      On top of that electors are going to be interviewed to double check that what they thought they voted was recorded. The external teams will also investigate the large number of ballots from single addresses.

      AZ was won with a majority of under 12,000 so if failed votes over that are found all kinds of issues arise. This is no doubt with the Democrats have a very large crack team of lawyers on the job. As an example, in the court case today they have apparently forced the recusal of the current judge by appointing an attorney who was once one of his interns. Using every trick in the book. Reply

  4. Avatar SAC Brat says: April 25, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    A fun part of the new state voting law in Georgia is that the state can take over voting in counties that have shown to have problems with running elections. Some counties have always had problems even when the state has rules for the number of ballot marking devices per eligible voters to prevent long lines. Some counties often have interruptions in their counting. Another function of the law is to make ballot drop off boxes more secure.

    I suspect a lot of the noise against the Georgia law is that the state will take away control of some of the polling from the local political machines and prevent unfolded mail-in ballots from being counted. Reply

    • Avatar akaPatience says: April 26, 2021 at 1:03 am

      My husband has become woke in recent years. I still love him, but don't get me started Anyway, yesterday I heard pundits on either MSNBC or CNN (of course his main sources of news) RANTING about how, due to the new GA voting laws, that no one's allowed to offer food and drink to people waiting to vote, and that it'll harm minorities . Why, they could get sick or even die of thirst or starvation don't you know! And this will discourage them from voting!

      As has become typical and customary among far too many leftists, this RACIST claim presumes that people of color can't bring a bottle of water or snack along with them if they anticipate a long wait at the polls. I say it's racist because it infers white people are smart and conscientious enough to have a contingency plan and take care of themselves, but not minorities. The same goes for providing acceptable ID at the polls, or returning absentee ballots in a timely manner, etc., etc. SMFH Reply

  5. Avatar mcohen says: April 25, 2021 at 7:07 pm

    Has become Useless Reply

  6. Avatar robt willmann says: April 26, 2021 at 9:39 am

    The audit is to be at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, for Maricopa County, Arizona. Nine cameras are set up inside at a distance that are broadcast live over the Internet–
    http://www.azaudit.org Reply

[Apr 15, 2021] Corporations want to control US election by manipulating mail-in votes

Apr 15, 2021 | www.breitbart.com

Hundreds of corporations, including Starbucks, Amazon, and Netflix, have signed a letter signaling their opposition to election integrity efforts in numerous states, promising to oppose any related legislation they deem "discriminatory."

The effort, led by former American Express chief executive Kenneth Chenault and Merck chief executive Kenneth Frazier, both of whom recently led a group of black business leaders urging corporations to take a stand against election integrity efforts, has corporations vowing to stand against "any discriminatory legislation," representing what the New York Times deemed "the broadest coalition yet to weigh in on the issue."

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"We stand for democracy," the statement reads . "A beautifully American idea, but a reality denied to many for much of this nation's history. As Americans, we know that in our democracy we should not expect to agree on everything":

However, regardless of our political affiliations, we believe the very foundation of our electoral process rests upon the ability of each of us to cast our ballots for the candidates of our choice. For American democracy to work for any of us, we must ensure the right to vote for all of us. We all should feel a responsibility to defend the right to vote and to oppose any discriminatory legislation or measures that restrict or prevent any eligible voter from having an equal and fair opportunity to cast a ballot.

"Voting is the lifeblood of our democracy," the statement continues, calling on Americans to take a "nonpartisan stand for this most basic and fundamental right of all Americans."

Signers include Bank of America, Amazon, Estée Lauder , Eventbrite, General Motors, Netflix, Starbucks, Synchrony, Nordstrom, PayPal, Peloton, Pinterest, United Airlines, Twitter, Under Armour, and more.

Some, such as Coca-Cola and Delta, which spoke out after Georgia passed its election integrity law, did not add their names to the list, nor did Home Depot , as the Times reported:

Coca-Cola and Delta, which condemned the Georgia law after it was passed, declined to add their names, according to people familiar with the matter. Home Depot also declined, even though its co-founder Arthur Blank said in a call with other business executives on Saturday that he supported voting rights. Another Home Depot co-founder, Ken Langone, is a vocal supporter of Mr. Trump.

Coca-Cola and Delta declined to comment. Home Depot said in a statement on Tuesday that "the most appropriate approach for us to take is to continue to underscore our belief that all elections should be accessible, fair and secure."

JPMorgan Chase also declined to sign the statement despite a personal request from senior Black business leaders to the chief executive, Jamie Dimon, according to people briefed on the matter. Mr. Dimon has publicly declared that he supports Black Lives Matter and made a statement on voting rights before many other companies, saying, "We believe voting must be accessible and equitable."

"It should be clear that there is overwhelming support in corporate America for the principle of voting rights," Chenault said.

While the statement does not list specific state election efforts, it follows the debate over Georgia's recently signed election integrity law, which the left has inundated with misinformation, including the false claims it eliminates "Souls to the Polls," thereby suppressing minority votes. In reality, the law expands ballot access in several ways, including by increasing the mandatory days for early weekend voting.

"The nuts and bolts of [the law] are this, it makes it easy to vote and hard to cheat," Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) said during a March appearance on Breitbart News Daily :

The biggest -- probably the top four things to me -- is it replaces a signature match with a voter ID on absentee ballots. It secures ballot drop boxes around the clock It also requires poll workers to continue tabulating ballots until all votes are counted and then it actually -- contrary to what the national media and those that are profiting off of this whole exercise of not being truthful with people -- expands voting access, especially on the weekends.

A Rasmussen Reports survey released last this week revealed a majority of likely voters, or 60 percent, believe it is more important to make sure there is no cheating in elections rather than prioritizing making it "easier for everybody to vote." Additionally, a majority of likely voters, including a majority of black voters, reject the notion that voter ID laws are discriminatory against some voters.

[Apr 14, 2021] 75% Support Voter ID Laws- Rasmussen

Apr 14, 2021 | turcopolier.com

Posted on April 7, 2021 by Pat Lang

" voters still overwhelmingly support laws requiring that voters show identification before casting a ballot.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 75% of Likely U.S. Voters believe voters should be required to show photo identification such as a driver's license before being allowed to vote. Only 21% are opposed to such a requirement. (To see survey question wording, click here .)

Thirty-six states have enacted some form of voter ID law, but those laws would be nullified if the Senate approves H.R. 1, which passed the House on a party-line vote. Critics say H.R. 1 " would force states to allow anyone to vote who simply signs a form saying that they are who they claim they are. "

"Support for voter ID laws has actually increased since 2018 , when 67% said voters should be required to show photo identification such as a driver's license before being allowed to vote.

Eighty-nine percent (89%) of Republicans support voter ID requirements, as do 60% of Democrats and 77% of voters not affiliated with either major party."

Comment: In Virginia it was not necessary to present identification at a polling place untl about 20 years ago. This was a relic of an older time when most Virginia communities were quite small and it was expected that one or more people would recognize acitizen at the polling station,

IMO the time has come when national ID cards would be a good thing. The trick would be to make it as tamper proof as possible. pl

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/march_2021/75_support_voter_id_laws akaPatience says: April 7, 2021 at 6:12 pm

I recently got a new driver's license, the kind that complies with airport security in order to be able to fly. And boy, my county Department of Motor Vehicles office was absolutely TOUGH, real hard asses, when it came to the documentation required to qualify for such a license. I had to go back THREE TIMES with various documents in order to satisfy them and meet their criteria EXACTLY, with no exceptions. So did my husband. I would hope that any national ID, if ever mandated, would be obtained by fulfilling similarly rigorous standards and conscientious processing. I bet it would set off leftists and libertarian-leaning rightists BIG TIME though, for different reasons: leftists would want lax standards and libertarians would oppose the notion per se .

[Apr 13, 2021] Fox News hires high-profile defense team in Dominion defamation lawsuit

High profile attorney means possible troubles for Dominion and its lobbyists. such layers ten not leave a single stone unturned, which is not in Dominion best interest. Emails will definitely be subpoenaed and judging from the behaviour of one Dominion executive they were not too careful.
I kel the joke "Are their lawyers also going to argue that no reasonable person would believe Fox news?"
Apr 13, 2021 | thehill.com

Fox News has hired two high-profile defense attorneys to combat a $1.6 billion lawsuit filed against it by voting technology company Dominion.

The media outlet disclosed in a court filing that it had Charles Babcock and Scott Keller for its defense. Fox News confirmed the hirings to The Hill.

... ... ...

Fox News Media told The Hill after Dominion filed its suit that it is "proud of our 2020 election coverage, which stands in the highest tradition of American journalism, and will vigorously defend against this baseless lawsuit in court."


libsrnazi OhNo 12 minutes ago

And yet discovery will be very interesting, and Fox News is now pitted against Dominion, and their best way to defend themselves is to show that the criticisms were legitimate...

Fox can now subpoena anything relevant from Dominion, and Dominion has to comply or be criminally prosecuted...

Hillaryous

Bruce libsrnazi 8 minutes ago • edited

There is not much to discover with Dominion. It mainly functions like a windows 10 computer. so it is hackable. It is very easy to install fraudulent software on these machines

See Harryi Hursti KILL CHAIN: THE CYBERWAR ON AMERICA'S ELECTIONS and look at his affidavit See "Investigators for Attorney DePernoReportedly Discover Modem Chips Embedded in Michigan Voting System Computer Motherboards" via today on theGatewayPundit

When testifying before the MI legislature, the Dominion CEO recommended that a full forensic audit be ordered if voters suspect that these machines were connected to the internet.

On Dec 1 election officials deleted the electronic voting data in violation of state la

OhNo libsrnazi 11 minutes ago

If that is fox news's defense they are done 🤣

libsrnazi OhNo 8 minutes ago

Keep tellin' yourself that... Eventually, even YOU might come to believe it...

When they lose the fight against the subpoenas, Dominion will drop the lawsuit, and claim the subpoenas are moot...

The media would like to give the impression that "hands" were the most washed body part in 2020, when in actuality, it was the "brain"..

Sherman's Tiki Torch #PizzaGaetz 31 minutes ago

Turns out the Kraken was fakin' and now her bacon is about to expire in the fire.

Grundune Sherman's Tiki Torch 16 minutes ago • edited

Sidney Powell lit a fuse. She woke the Republicans and others who want election integrity, so the Democrats won't be able to steal any more. At least not with the same tactics

Bruce Man in the Moon!! 23 minutes ago • edited

Lou Dobbs might have gotten confused once. I believe he said that an affidavit that criticized Smartmatic had instead criticized Dominion. However, there are so many problems with Dominion, I would consider it to be an immaterial mistake. After all these machines appear to be unusable:

[Vote counting machines] "presents serious system security vulnerability and
operational issues that may place plaintiffs and other voters at risk of
deprivation of their fundamental right to cast an effective vote that is
accurately counted," U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg wrote in a Oct 2020

Electionic vote counting machines were banned in France, Ireland and the in
the Netherlands via Gateway Pundit because they were unreliable.

The Gateway pundit could be sued if they make false statements.

via Twitter:

Elections Canada @ElectionsCan_E

· Nov 16

Elections Canada does not use Dominion Voting Systems. We use paper ballots counted by hand in front of scrutineers and have never used voting machines or electronic tabulators to count votes in our

100-year history. #CdnPoli

It is very easy to install fraudulent software on these machines See Harryi Hursti on seeKILL CHAIN: THE CYBERWAR ON AMERICA'S
ELECTIONS and look at his affidavit

Dutchcourage 19 minutes ago • edited

The actual claim is here (400+ pages):
www DOT documentcloud DOT org/documents/20527880-dominion-v-fox-news-complaint

These lawyers have their work cut out for them. As explained in the claim, Dominion contacted Fox multiple times after the first accusations. They provided Fox with independent assessments and other evidence that their systems were sound. Fox ignored it, never mentioned this and continued presenting that Dominion systems were fraudulent (and stated that as a fact, not as an opinion).

This will go a long way to the "with malice" part

labman57 19 minutes ago

Once again, FOX News will likely claim that they are an entertainment network, not a news agency ... and therefore they should not be expected to propagate facts on their broadcasts.

Jrgolden Golden 14 minutes ago

Discovery should be fun. Don't settle with FOX, grind their assets into the ground

ballyb11 9 minutes ago

Re this "The election was stolen" conspiracy theory of Trump's.

How did the Democrats pull off this massive election fraud?

It had to be an insanely well coordinated effort.

And not one Republican infiltrator, not one Democratic operative flipped to expose the fraud.

Done with surgical precision.

An absolutely masterful effort.

Fred ballyb11 8 minutes ago

And headed up by a guy with dementia.
Astonishin

[Apr 13, 2021] Dominion v. MyPillow Guy poses a stark test for America's libel laws

Dominion fights as its image was damaged and it has deep pockets. But how valid are their claim is for the court to decide. In no way they are as clean as they pretend. Their connection Dem party operatives is probably provable beyond reasonable doubt. The whole story with Dominion replacing Diebold on this business is murky to the extreme.
Apr 13, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com
Roger Parloff · Contributor Tue, April 13, 2021, 5:06 AM · 22 min read

... "Instantly," said Steven Bellovin , a professor of computer science at Columbia University with almost 40 years of experience in computer networking and security. That's how long it took him to realize, he said in an interview, that a certain purported spreadsheet that I showed him was "not just fake, but a badly generated fake by someone who didn't know what they were doing."

The spreadsheet, together with an animated film that was said to illustrate its data, formed the crux of a nearly two-hour "docu-movie," called "Absolute Proof," which aired at least 13 times last February on the One America News Network. The movie, presented in a news magazine format, was hosted, co-produced, and relentlessly flacked by Mike Lindell, the irrepressible CEO of MyPillow, Inc. It purported to furnish absolute proof that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from then-President Donald Trump in an international cyberattack exploiting vulnerabilities in voting-machine software that had been intentionally designed to rig elections.

Dominion Voting Systems, which makes voting technology, filed a $1.3 billion defamation suit against Lindell and his company in late February -- the third of four massive cases it has filed since the election -- in part because of "Absolute Proof," which referenced Dominion more than 40 times. (An in-depth analysis of Dominion's suits over bogus election-fraud claims, as well as one brought by a rival voting-device company, Smartmatic, is provided in an earlier story I wrote here .)

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[Apr 12, 2021] Margaret Sullivan Gets it Wrong, Libel Law Is a Good Thing by Dean Baker

The column is extremely week and fragments are republished here for the sole purpose to critique/
I think Dean Baker is very superficial here. Dominion is a corporation business model of which is based on lobbying Congress and states. It is definitely closely connected to the Democratic Party apparatchiks. This is a very questionable model. So now it tried to present being White Knight defending itself again absurd claims like Hugo Chaves claim. This does not change the nature of their business. In reality this is two dirty persons struggling in a mud peat.
Also the key question remains unanswered: are Dominion machines do any good to the USA voting system? If yes, then defending itself makes some positive sense. If not, why bother?
Apr 12, 2021 | cepr.net

...Hugo Chavez, the former president of Venezuela who has been dead for eight years, figures prominently in many of the stories. Nonetheless, many Fox News viewers believe them.

For a voting machine manufacturer, the claim that your machines are rigged is pretty much a textbook definition of a damaging statement. Therefore, Dominion should have a pretty solid case.

Sullivan doesn't dispute any of this, instead, she points out that libel or defamation suits can also be used against news outlets doing serious reporting. She highlights the case of Reveal, a nonprofit news outfit that is dedicated to investigative reporting. Reveal was nearly forced out of business due to the cost of defending itself against a charity that it exposed as being run by a cult. Sullivan's takeaway is that defamation lawsuits can be used as a weapon against legitimate news organizations doing serious reporting.

Sullivan is right on this point, but wrong in understanding the implications. Every civil course of action can be abused by those with money to harm people without substantial resources. There are tens of thousands of frivolous tort cases filed every year, but would anyone argue that we should deny people the right to sue a contractor that mistakenly sets their customer's house on fire? The same applies to suits for breach of contract. If I pay someone $10,000 in advance to paint my house and they don't do it, should I not be able to sue to get my money back?

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The reality is that our legal system can be abused by the powerful to harm those with less power. That is the result of the enormous disparities of income and power in this country, and the inadequate shields against abuse in the legal system...

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[Mar 28, 2021] 'He's toast'- GOP leaves Raffensperger twisting in the wind - POLITICO

Mar 28, 2021 | www.politico.com

The Georgia GOP secretary of state who bucked Donald Trump is up against serious resistance within his own party.

..."He's toast," said Jay Williams, a Georgia-based Republican strategist. "I don't know that there's a single elected official who would put their neck out for Brad Raffensperger right now."

Not everyone in state political circles is convinced Raffensperger's political plight is so grim. Some still see a path to reelection, despite the serious resistance within his own party.

Either way, as the GOP forges its post-Trump era identity, Raffensperger's reelection campaign is emerging as one of the earliest and most contentious test cases for the direction of the party.

...Jason Shepherd, the chair of the Republican Party in Cobb County, Georgia, said he has friends who are "completely uninvolved in politics" who tell him "there is no way they are going to vote to reelect Raffensperger."

That sentiment, he said, is coming from "the type of person you're almost surprised they know the name of the secretary of state."

Earlier this week, Rep. Jody Hice, a defender of Trump's effort to overturn the election, announced he's running with Trump's endorsement to unseat Raffensperger. And the Georgia Republican Party isn't exactly sitting on the sidelines.

The state executive committee publicly called this week on Raffensperger to repudiate his staff for misquoting Trump's words in a December phone call in which Trump urged a Georgia elections official to find "dishonesty" in the vote in an attempt to reverse the election results.

The party said Raffensperger has "dodged repeated attempts" by committee members to discuss the issue with him.

Closer to home, Raffensperger failed this past weekend to get Republicans in his own precinct to elect him as a delegate to his county's upcoming Republican Party convention, said Stewart Bragg, executive director of the Georgia Republican Party. After Raffensperger wrote a letter asking to be elected, no one at the precinct meeting moved to nominate him, Bragg said.

In a statement, the chair of the Fulton County Republican Party, Trey Kelly, said he was unaware of any letter from Raffensperger, adding that, "like many others who did not attend Saturday, he was not added to the delegate or alternate list for the county convention." A person close to Raffensperger also denied that he sent a letter seeking election.

His representatives otherwise declined to comment for this story, pointing to Raffensperger's past public statements.

Raffensperger's official responsibilities have also been targeted by Republicans in the state. On Thursday, the Republican-controlled state legislature passed a law, signed by Georgia GOP Gov. Brian Kemp, that removes the secretary of state as the state election board chair -- to be replaced by a person approved by the state legislature.

The law, in effect, hands control of the five-person board over to the state legislature: Two other members on the board are picked by the respective legislative chambers. The law also gives the state election board the ability to suspend county election officials, who are replaced by an individual picked by the board.

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Raffensperger has joined the chorus of Republicans across the country in opposing H.R. 1, or the For the People Act, congressional Democrats' sweeping piece of legislation that would drastically remake most aspects of federal elections, penning an op-ed in USA Today on Friday that says the bill makes "reckless demands of Georgia's elections system."

At the same time, Raffensperger has been harshly critical of the falsehoods about the 2020 election promoted by Trump and embraced by Hice, saying voters will punish Hice because of it.

[Mar 26, 2021] Coomer filed a defamation suit in Denver state court, seeking unspecified damages by Roger Parloff

Mar 26, 2021 | finance.yahoo.com

On Dec. 22, Coomer filed a defamation suit in Denver state court , seeking unspecified damages, against Oltmann and 14 others, including the Trump Campaign; Giuliani; Powell; the One America News Network (OAN); OAN chief White House correspondent Chanel Rion; Newsmax Media; Newsmax contributor Michelle Malkin; The Gateway Pundit website; and radio and podcast host Eric Metaxas.


[Mar 12, 2021] H.R.1 (the -For the People Act-) Legitimizes WaPo's McCarthy-ite PropOrNot -Reporting,- Institutionalizes Ballot Marking Devi

Notable quotes:
"... By Lambert Strether of Corrente. ..."
"... Citizens United ..."
"... the QR code is the ballot ..."
"... I'm surprised Republicans haven't done as much to sink the Libertarian Party. ..."
"... The Ballot Marking Devices section in essence legalizes election theft.) ..."
"... The dems carried AZ and PA AFTER they got the Greens removed from the ballot in both states. It tells you all you need to know about the Democratic Party and "free elections". ..."
Mar 12, 2021 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

H.R.1 (the "For the People Act") Legitimizes WaPo's McCarthy-ite PropOrNot "Reporting," Institutionalizes Ballot Marking Devices, and Cripples Minor Parties Posted on March 9, 2021 by Lambert Strether

By Lambert Strether of Corrente.

H.R.1 (the " For the People Act ") is the enormous election law reform bill just passed by the House and sent to the Senate. (The PDF has 791 pages.) Black Agenda Report describes the 2019 version as "a sleazy ghetto ice cream truckload of empty promises." Associated Press uses more measured language:

House Resolution 1, which touches on virtually every aspect of the electoral process, was approved on a near party-line 220-210 vote. It would restrict partisan gerrymandering of congressional districts, strike down hurdles to voting and bring transparency to a murky campaign finance system that allows wealthy donors to anonymously bankroll political causes.

The stakes in the outcome are monumental, cutting to the foundational idea that one person equals one vote, and carrying with it the potential to shape election outcomes for years to come. It also offers a test of how hard President Joe Biden and his party are willing to fight for their priorities, as well as those of their voters.

This bill "will put a stop at the voter suppression that we're seeing debated right now," said Rep. Nikema Williams, a new congresswoman who represents the Georgia district that deceased voting rights champion John Lewis held for years. "This bill is the 'Good Trouble' he fought for his entire life."

To Republicans, however, it would give license to unwanted federal interference in states' authority to conduct their own elections -- ultimately benefiting Democrats through higher turnout, most notably among minorities.

Here is a guide to the Bill from the Brennan Center ; is a conservative assault on the bill from the National Review ; and a list of bullet points from Daily Kos :

Establish automatic voter registration at an array of state agencies; Establish same-day voter registration; Allow online voter registration; Allow 16- and 17-year-olds to pre-register so they'll be on the rolls when they turn 18; Allow state colleges and universities to serve as registration agencies; Ban states from purging eligible voters' registration simply for infrequent voting; Establish two weeks of in-person early voting, including availability on Sundays and outside of normal business hours; Standardize hours within states for opening and closing polling places on Election Day, with exceptions to let cities set longer hours in municipal races; Require paper ballots filled by hand or machines that use them as official records and let voters verify their choices; Grant funds to states to upgrade their election security infrastructure; Provide prepaid postage on mail ballots; Allow voters to turn in their mail ballot in person if they choose; Allow voters to track their absentee mail ballots; Require states to establish nonpartisan redistricting commissions for congressional redistricting (possibly not until the 2030s round of redistricting); Establish nonpartisan redistricting criteria such as a partisan fairness provision that courts can enforce starting immediately no matter what institution is drawing the maps; End prison gerrymandering by counting prisoners at their last address (rather than where they're incarcerated) for the purposes of redistricting; End felony disenfranchisement for those on parole, probation, or post-sentence, and require such citizens to be supplied with registration forms and informed their voting rights have been restored; Provide public financing for House campaigns in the form of matching small donations at a six-for-one rate; Expand campaign finance disclosure requirements to mitigate Citizens United ; Ban corporations from spending for campaign purposes unless the corporation has established a process for determining the political will of its shareholders; and Make it a crime to mislead voters with the intention of preventing them from voting.

There's certainly a lot of good stuff here (though as readers know, I loathe early voting, since it can only increase voting for Party, not candidate, and would prefer a system that maximized in-person voting, with Election Day a national holiday, and hand-marked paper ballots hand-counted in public. But I recognize this is an outlier's position). Whether the bill will pass is, of course, another matter, given the filibuster . In fact, the bill ( as BAR points out ) seems designed to have its various sections lifted out and turned into standalone bills. From Axios :

Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21 and a longtime proponent of campaign finance reform, says Democrats have a 3 -- 5 year strategy for enacting the key elements of H.R. 1 .

So, we'll see. In this post, I will focus on concerns more familiar to NC readers: H.R.1's shocking[1] legitimation of the Washington Post's McCarthyite PropOrNot debacle; its institutionalization of Ballot Marking Devices (which are not the same as "hand-marked paper ballots"), and its provisions to cripple third party formation and growth. I don't know if these issues are deal-breakers for anyone, or anyone who matters, but I do know that the mainstream has not raised them.

Legitimizing PropOrNot

From the text of the bill , "Subtitle C -- Strengthening Oversight of Online Political Advertising, SEC. 4203. FINDINGS":

(2) On November 24, 2016, The Washington Post reported findings from teams of independent researchers that concluded Russians '' exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment * * * as part of a broadly effective strategy of sowing distrust in U.S. democracy and its leaders."

Frankly, I'm gobsmacked to find this quotation from WaPo codified as a Congressional Finding and embodied in statutory language[2]. For those who came in late, I'll unpack my gobsmackedness, beginning by quoting Craig Timberg's WaPo story, " Russian propaganda effort helped spread 'fake news' during election, experts say, " which was oddly[3] placed in the Business Section:

Two teams of independent researchers found that the Russians exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment , as an insurgent candidate harnessed a wide range of grievances to claim the White House.

One of those "teams" was PropOrNot:

PropOrNot's monitoring report, which was provided to The Washington Post in advance of its public release, identifies more than 200 websites as routine peddlers of Russian propaganda during the election season, with combined audiences of at least 15 million Americans. On Facebook, PropOrNot estimates that stories planted or promoted by the disinformation campaign were viewed more than 213 million times.

As described by Max Blumenthal :

[A shady website, PropOrNot,] has compiled a blacklist of websites its anonymous authors accuse of pushing fake news and Russian propaganda. The blacklist includes over 200 outlets, from the right-wing Drudge Report and Russian government-funded Russia Today, to Wikileaks and an array of marginal conspiracy and far-right sites. The blacklist also includes some of the flagship publications of the progressive left, including Truthdig, Counterpunch, Truthout, Naked Capitalism, and the Black Agenda Report , a leftist African-American opinion hub that is critical of the liberal black political establishment.

UPDATE As the Columbia Journalism Review commented at the time:

It became apparent soon after that the Post had itself fallen for shoddy information. The story relied heavily on a report by PropOrNot, an anonymous internet group that bills itself as "Your Friendly Neighborhood Propaganda Identification Service, Since 2016!" While its study claimed to show how a deliberate Russian effort had unduly influenced American public opinion, it included in its calculations non-fake, left-wing sites like Naked Capitalism and Truthdig, among others.

One of the ways the Post's journalistic malfeasance "became apparent" was a fusillade of posts by Yves (" PropOrNot's Grandiose Fabrications ", " Washington Post Refuses to Retract Article Defaming Naked Capitalism and Other Sites ," " We Demand That PropOrNot Remove Its Blacklist, Report, and Browser Tool Defaming Naked Capitalism and Issue an Apology "). WaPo ultimately deigned to place a credibility-destroying "Editor's Note" at the head of article, reading in relevant part:

A number of those sites have objected to being included on PropOrNot's list, and some of the sites, as well as others not on the list, have publicly challenged the group's methodology and conclusions. The Post, which did not name any of the sites, does not itself vouch for the validity of PropOrNot's findings regarding any individual media outlet, nor did the article purport to do so [wowsers]. Since publication of The Post's story, PropOrNot has removed some sites from its list.

So the story was . what? Some goons made a list the Post won't vouch for? Swell reporting standards there[4]. You can't spell "McCarthy" without including " Marty ," I guess. And there the matter rested, just one of those stupidities that our famously free press routinely emits. One might have supposed it forgotten. Until the story appeared in the text of a bill House Democrats passed!

Institutionalizing Ballot Marking Devices

From the text of the bill, " Subtitle F -- Promoting Accuracy, Integrity, and Security Through Voter-Verified Permanent Paper Ballot, SEC. 1502. PAPER BALLOT AND MANUAL COUNTING REQUIREMENTS ":

(2) PAPER BALLOT REQUIREMENT. --

(A) VOTER-VERIFIED PAPER BALLOTS. --

(i) PAPER BALLOT REQUIREMENT. --

(I) The voting system shall require the use of an individual, durable, voter-verified paper ballot of the voter's vote that shall be marked and made available for inspection and verification by the voter before the voter's vote is cast and counted, and which shall be counted by hand or read by an optical character recognition device or other counting device. For purposes of this subclause, the term 'individual, durable, voter-verified paper ballot' means a paper ballot marked by the voter by hand or a paper ballot marked through the use of a nontabulating ballot marking device or system , so long as the voter shall have the option to mark his or her ballot by hand.

This language is extremely broken. Hand-marked paper ballot advocate Jenny Cohn suggests a revision:

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Los Angeles County's horrid VSAP system uses QR codes ( discussed at length here ). Here is why QR codes are both unauditable and (if the ballot marking devices are hacked) enable election fraud by insiders:

Voter makes selections on touch-screen (software, hence buggy and insecure), selections are stored (ditto) and printed out (ditto) on a page with a human-readable receipt reflecting (one assumes) the touchscreen selections, and the ballot itself, which is the QR code, which is not human-readable. The page is then scanned (ditto) and QR code is then tabulated (ditto). The sleight of hand is, of course, the ballot itself. A human may think that their reciept, which they can read to check that it matches what they selected on the touch screen, also matches the QR code, which they cannot. But there's no reason on earth to think that! And the unreadable QR code, since that is what is tabulated, is the ballot! Take the matter out of the delusional digital realm. Suppose voting worked like this: You voted by hand-marking a yellow paper ballot. You then handed the yellow paper ballot to an official who, behind a screen so you could not see, marked a blue ballot that you could not read, sealed it so you could not read it, and then handed the blue ballot back to you and told you to put it in the ballot box, that's your vote. Does that make any sense? That is how a "Ballot Marking Device" works.

In essence, ballots printed out by Ballot Marking Devices are not hand-marked ; the digital (i.e., the hackable) interposes itself at every point: At the touchscreen, at the printer, at the reader. And because the printed-out QR code is what is counted, the QR code is the ballot . And since the QR code is not human-readable, voting is not transparent to the slightest degree.[5] (The VSAP post describes many other problems with ballot marking devices, but this is the most important.)

Crippling Third Parties

Finally, H.R.1 makes ballot access for minor parties even more diffcult than it already is. From Maryland Matters, " Opinion: Sarbanes' H.R. 1 Has Poison Pill to Kill Minor Party Competition ":

H.R. 1 contains a poison pill designed to reduce political competition and voter choice by weakening minor parties, at exactly a time where, according to a recent Gallup poll, support for a third party is at an all-time high .

Ever since then-presidential candidate Barack Obama shunned the federal public matching funds program in 2008 , among all parties' general election candidates, only Green Party presidential nominees have applied for and qualified for these funds. H.R. 1 would solve this minor party/Green Party "problem" by raising the threshold to qualify for matching funds beyond the realistic ability of Greens (and other minor party nominees) to reach.

This move to disempower minor parties and their voters is cloaked within the promise of a new and improved matching funds program, designed to entice major party candidates to opt into the program, with the promise of substantially increased funding.

The current donation threshold to qualify for a 1:1 match is to raise at least $5,000 in each of at least 20 states, in donations no larger than $250 each. The public already supports funding minor party candidates under this formula. Green candidates Jill Stein (2012, 2016) and Howie Hawkins (2020) each qualified for matching funds in the last three cycles.

The new H.R. 1 threshold would replace the existing 1:1 match program with a 6:1 match, but would simultaneously increase the minimum amount of donations by 500% to a minimum of $25,000 in each of 20 states. It would also increase the minimum number of contributions to reach it by 625%, by subtlety lowering the size of donations that can count toward reaching the threshold from $250 to $200. This would make it even harder on minor party candidates -- who are mostly excluded from candidate forums and media coverage and have a far smaller base of well-funded donors to draw from -- by disqualifying 20% of the $250 donations they are able to raise.

The real-world effect of eliminating the existing 1:1 threshold would be to eliminate a matching funds threshold that is demonstrably reachable by minor party candidates and replace it with a category reachable likely only by top-tier major party candidates. This sleight-of-hand will lead people to think Democrats are for increased public funding, but apparently only for themselves.

Once again from Black Agenda Report :

I was part of Jill Stein's campaign team in 2015-2016, and I can tell you we barely met the old threshold in about 22 states. It was a near thing. Eliminating those federal matching funds for a Green Party presidential campaign would mean all but certain erasure of the Green Party from the ballot in a good dozen or more states for 2020, and maybe a dozen more in 2022. Since most states also require a presidential and/or US Senate nominee to appear at the top of the ballot, HR 1 would prohibit the Green Party from running any local candidates in states where a defunded Green Party's vote drops below a certain level, and it will plummet if Green campaigns, which which accept no funding from corporations will be far less able to hire staff or contractors and to perform the necessary functions of a campaign.

Hard to believe that Democrats would do such a thing deliberately, but here we are.

Conclusion

So these are the three flaws that I can see in H.R.1. Whether these flaws should be sufficient to sink the bill, I don't know. Readers?

NOTES

[1] It does not speak well of our national security goons that this material still lives in their institutional memory.

[2] A foreshadowing of RussiaGate, perhaps. It turns out that anonymous sources don't need a layer of indirection, like a shady website. You can just quote them, and nobody calls you on it.

[3] Timberg's story dropped on Thanksgiving Eve. We were told at the time by sources in a position to know that his piece made it into the paper without being vetted by the national security desk at which he once worked, which led to some fiery internal email exchanges at WaPo.

[4] On the begrudging and sluggishly inserted Editor's Note, CJR commented :

[T]he editor's note vaults into verbal gymnastics in an attempt to simultaneously rationalize and distance itself from an obviously flawed primary source. Any data analysis is only as good as the sum of its parts, and it's clear that PropOrNot's methodology was lacking.

The Post, of course, was merely reporting what PropOrNot said. Yet it used declarative language throughout, sans caveat, lending credence to a largely unknown organization that lumps together independent left-wing publications and legitimately Russian-backed news services. The Post diminished its credibility at a time when media credibility is in short supply, and the non-apologetic editor's note doesn't help.

A Post spokeswoman declined to comment further on the episode, saying that the editor's note speaks for itself.

Indeed!

[5] The hacker's exploit would make it so the human readable part of the ballot read as if the voter voted for candidate A; but the QR code, that which, being tabulated, is the actual ballot, would be for candidate B, or whatever else the hacker wanted it to be, like a spoiled ballot.


Michaelmas, March 9, 2021 at 8:17 pm

I'm surprised Republicans haven't done as much to sink the Libertarian Party.

They can't really do that at this point. One effect of Obama and the Dems' criminal complicity with Wall Street after the 2008 GFC was the Tea Party's rise as a reaction to that, which in turn enabled Charles Koch -- a libertarian, NOT a Republican -- to pour money into supporting Tea Party candidates.

As a result, Koch may effectively have a hold on a majority of the competent political operators in the Republican party now. Thus, when Trump won in 2016, he was compelled to hire people straight out of the Koch machine -- Pence, Kellyanne Conway, Pompeo, McCarthy, and approximately 60 percent or more of the Trump administration's rank and file have CVs directly attaching them to the Kochtopus if you investigate (and whenever an old-school Republican left, the Koch people would move one of their one into that position as, forex, when Pompeo replaced Tillerson).

One presumes Trump was too stupid to have figured this out. Anyway, Koch overall now has a more sophisticated political machine than the Republican party as a whole. It's easy to assume Charles Koch is some kind of standard evil capitalist Richie Rich born with a silver spoon in his mouth. In fact, he's highly intelligent with two MIT master's engineering degrees, one in nuclear and one in chemical engineering, and his companies were among the first American companies to integrate computers into their operations back in the 1970s. Thus, when you heard all the squawking about Cambridge Analytica, and the Mercers and Steve Bannon subverting democracy, the reality is that Koch has operated an electoral data-collection and targeting company called i360 doing all the things Cambridge Analytica was accused of for the last decade and a half. It's far more sophisticated than anything the Republican Party has in-house and the Koch machine uses it to support candidates it approves of even at a loss.

Why don't you hear about this and how does Koch get away with it? Because, again, he's a libertarian, not a Republican, and thus the Koch machine gives money to Democratic politicians and organizations, too.

JBird4049, March 9, 2021 at 7:24 pm

So what happens with an undeniable win of an unapproved party happens? Will the reformers of the correct "losing party" just accept it?

Also, seeing the security state's apparatchiks in Congress, along with the Nevada Democratic Party's pettifactors and pettifoggers, and the national nomenklatura or high priests with their following of fanatical believers concerned citizens doing a good job is heart warming.

Finally seeing competent ruling in action is good; we must keep those unwashed proles along with the displaced disposables in their proper places.

I am in awe of the Democratic Party physical congress of the American people during the last forty years. Why, they are almost as good as the Republicans.

Lambert Strether, March 10, 2021 at 4:40 am

> I guess I just don't understand the urgency, here.

The urgency is Republican efforts at the state level, most (all?) of which have the effect of making it harder to vote and restricting the franchise. It's all pretty bad, but it's possible that H.R.1 could make it worse. (The Ballot Marking Devices section in essence legalizes election theft.)

Michael Ismoe, March 10, 2021 at 1:11 pm

Ummmmm. It's "bi-partisan"

The dems carried AZ and PA AFTER they got the Greens removed from the ballot in both states. It tells you all you need to know about the Democratic Party and "free elections".

Just another political party trying to get a leg up on the other one. Nothing to see here.

Tom Stone, March 9, 2021 at 9:15 pm

Describing HR1 as "Fixing" the election process is a rare example of truth in advertising by our congresscritters.

John Anthony La Pietra, March 9, 2021 at 10:23 pm

Probably not a great surprise to the commentariat that the Green Party opposes HR1 -- and opposed it last session too.

Some outlets in the designated free-speech zone bleachers on the farther side of the stadium have taken notice of this year's statement; from the nearer side, not so much yet that I've seen. But here's hoping. And thanks to NC for coming straight at this fraud repeatedly. (Thanks too for knocking the props out from under the PropOrNot provision.)

George Phillies, March 10, 2021 at 12:06 am

" Since most states also require a presidential and/or US Senate nominee to appear at the top of the ballot, HR 1 would prohibit the Green Party from running any local candidates in states where a defunded Green Party's vote drops below a certain level, " I don't believe that that claim is correct. It is certainly not true in Massachusetts (where I am a former Libertarian State Party Chair) and does not match my knowledge of New York, New Hampshire, or California.

The Libertarian Party Presidential candidate has almost always ignored Federal campaign funds for the nominating campaign. The last LP campaign to take Federal nominating funds appears to have lost money on the deal. The Libertarian Party has repeatedly had a Presidential candidate on the ballot in every state, thanks to the efforts of its donors and volunteers.

The Green Party's difficulty (and the difficulty faced by the third Third Party, the Constitution Party, which appears to have been forgotten here) is that it is small, a third or a half the size of the Libertarian Party, and therefore lacks the resources it needs. It does not help the Greens that they have sometimes worried about causing the Democratic Presidential candidate to lose. Libertarians as a group do not have this concern. While the other two major parties are not the same, neither of them is viewed by Libertarians as being desirable people to hold office.

Lambert Strether, March 10, 2021 at 4:38 am

I added material from a contemporaneous article on the PropOrNot debacle from the Columbia Journalism Review . I also cleaned up the notes, which I had misnumbered (fifty lashes with a wet noodle for lambert). And I did a little copy editing.

Bjorn, March 10, 2021 at 5:39 am

The analogy presented about BMDs is not very apt, for two reasons:

1. If both the human-readable receipt and the QR code are scanned, this provides after-the-fact auditability.
2. Although QR codes aren't human-readable, they're very easily readable by a personal device that everyone carries around in their pocket. This provides in-the-moment auditability, with unpredictable, distributed auditors.

The combination of those two factors make life extremely difficult for any attacker: if even one person happens to check that their QR code matches their receipt and discovers it doesn't, it's going to trigger an audit of the entire system, and the attack will be discovered.

The analogous system described, with the sealed blue ballot, provides no in-the-moment auditability, and if we are to assume that the yellow ballot is thrown away, no after-the-fact auditability.

expr, March 10, 2021 at 11:46 am

There is no requirement that what you see when you scan the QR code will make any sense to the voter. A bunch of race/candidate code pairs not necessarily in an order compatible with the paper ballot and perhaps encrypted

Another Scott, March 10, 2021 at 6:58 am

Did anyone else notice this?

"Ban corporations from spending for campaign purposes unless the corporation has established a process for determining the political will of its shareholders"

So it's ok for a corporation to donate if it's shareholders approve. Do the donations have to mirror the political will of the shareholders? Is a simple majority sufficient? What if it has two-class share structure?

That's before getting to the two big issue: firstly, the tax advantage of making campaign (or any political donation) through a corporation as I can't deduct a contribution, but I'm pretty sure that a corporation can. In addition and more importantly, what about all of the other stakeholders?

Why not simply prohibit any campaign contributions from corporations?

lyman alpha blob, March 10, 2021 at 12:17 pm

I can see it now -- Corporation X asks its shareholders to support political donations to candidate Y. You as a shareholder must confirm your support or the C Suite might have to find something else to do with all that cash that was going to be distributed as dividends. And if you fail to mail in your proxy at all, they'll just take that as tacit agreement of support.

marym, March 10, 2021 at 7:56 am

Did every Democrat in Congress just write down their favorite wish and they collected them all into a single bill? Do they actually want it to pass the Senate? Surely they don't all want some controls on corporate campaign spending!

We do need national standards for some of those bullet points that enable voters and help make machine voting more secure. That would be difficult enough without all the other baggage in the bill.

Maybe there will be a deal in the Senate -- Democrats get to use their excuses for losing in 2016 to suppress third parties and dissenting views, and Republicans use theirs in 2020 to suppress the voters.

If a bill does pass would be interesting to understand which pieces they cared about enough to make severable from the whole before the lawsuits start.

In any case, they really need to pass the voting rights bill HR 4/S 4263 to restore the full protections of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, before we get mired in some "3-5 year strategy" for HR 1.

Dean, March 10, 2021 at 8:15 am

A duopoly of power exists in the electoral-legislative-executive industrial complex. Anything that stifles outside competition is a feature, not a bug.

Jerry, March 10, 2021 at 9:01 am

Don't overlook this clause: " so long as the voter shall have the option to mark his or her ballot by hand."

That means BMDs exist only along side of current hand marking, never in place of hand marking. Most voters will mark by hand so few BMDs will be purchased, likely only one per precinct. That will cause a waiting line for the BMD and result in its non-use by any voter capable of making direct marks by hand.

The ability to steal an election with QR codes via BMDs will be so remote that it won't be worth the trouble to attempt it.

Will S., March 10, 2021 at 2:02 pm

Do you not remember the issues with provisional ballots in the Democrat primaries? Having the "option" to hand mark a ballot doesn't mean it will be easy to exercise that option, and in fact you may be outright lied to by the volunteers running the polling booth and told you don't have that option.

William Hunter Duncan, March 10, 2021 at 9:37 am

I have always known the Republican party to be disegenuous in the extreme, untrustworthy and authoritarian. I long thought Dems to be milquetoast anodyne. Since 2015 however I have come to be even more opposed to the Dem party than the Republican party, this HR 1 being an example of how they have become authoritarian in the extreme while hiding behind preening moral superiority.

I have been wondering too though, with the spate of election reform bills in Republican controlled states, why I have not heard any calls to outlaw Dominion and the like?

Clearly both parties want to "fix" the system in their (nefarious) favor.

[Mar 12, 2021] The real election theft seems to happen long before the ballots are even printed

With the spate of election reform bills in Republican controlled states, why I have not heard any calls to outlaw Dominion and the like? Clearly both parties want to "fix" the system in their (nefarious) favor.
Mar 12, 2021 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Bjorn , , March 10, 2021 at 5:39 am

The analogy presented about BMDs is not very apt, for two reasons:

1. If both the human-readable receipt and the QR code are scanned, this provides after-the-fact auditability.

2. Although QR codes aren't human-readable, they're very easily readable by a personal device that everyone carries around in their pocket. This provides in-the-moment auditability, with unpredictable, distributed auditors.

The combination of those two factors make life extremely difficult for any attacker: if even one person happens to check that their QR code matches their receipt and discovers it doesn't, it's going to trigger an audit of the entire system, and the attack will be discovered.

The analogous system described, with the sealed blue ballot, provides no in-the-moment auditability, and if we are to assume that the yellow ballot is thrown away, no after-the-fact auditability.

expr , , March 10, 2021 at 11:46 am

There is no requirement that what you see when you scan the QR code will make any sense to the voter. A bunch of race/candidate code pairs not necessarily in an order compatible with the paper ballot and perhaps encrypted

Susan the other , March 10, 2021 at 11:01 am

It would be good to get rid of electronic voting machines.

I like paper ballots. It might not really do anything to discourage corporate influence to simply ask the corporations to represent all of the politics of their employees. That is a murky requirement at best. But it is (citizen's united) currently a blatant form of gerrymandering.

Most of this is just paper trail stuff, however the real election theft seems to happen long before the ballots are even printed. How did we get a clearly senile president? He was the chosen candidate in a "party" process that is not the least bit answerable to the general electorate. Or even to its own electorate.

What better example of election malpractice is there than Joe Biden? So, obviously, the national committees of the opposing political parties need some restrictions here. They could be subjected to tighter regulation.

Their influence could be diluted by allowing many more political parties to participate in both primary and general elections. We need regulations that promote transparency on all the sausage-making before a party candidate is chosen. We also need transparency on the king makers, whether corporate or political.

Who is backing the candidate? HR1 doesn't really scratch the surface. It basically just encourages people to get out and participate in a very corrupted institution.

Dean , , March 10, 2021 at 8:15 am

A duopoly of power exists in the electoral-legislative-executive industrial complex. Anything that stifles outside competition is a feature, not a bug.

Jerry , , March 10, 2021 at 9:01 am

Don't overlook this clause: "so long as the voter shall have the option to mark his or her ballot by hand."

That means BMDs exist only along side of current hand marking, never in place of hand marking. Most voters will mark by hand so few BMDs will be purchased, likely only one per precinct. That will cause a waiting line for the BMD and result in its non-use by any voter capable of making direct marks by hand.

The ability to steal an election with QR codes via BMDs will be so remote that it won't be worth the trouble to attempt it.

Will S. , , March 10, 2021 at 2:02 pm

Do you not remember the issues with provisional ballots in the Democrat primaries? Having the "option" to hand mark a ballot doesn't mean it will be easy to exercise that option, and in fact you may be outright lied to by the volunteers running the polling booth and told you don't have that option.

William Hunter Duncan , , March 10, 2021 at 9:37 am

I have always known the Republican party to be disingenuous in the extreme, untrustworthy and authoritarian. I long thought Dems to be milquetoast anodyne. Since 2015 however I have come to be even more opposed to the Dem party than the Republican party, this HR 1 being an example of how they have become authoritarian in the extreme while hiding behind preening moral superiority.

I have been wondering too though, with the spate of election reform bills in Republican controlled states, why I have not heard any calls to outlaw Dominion and the like? Clearly both parties want to "fix" the system in their (nefarious) favor.

Jeremy Grimm , , March 10, 2021 at 10:35 am

Both parties seem intent on delegitimizing the U.S. electoral processes. I sense growing unrest and discontent with our political processes and government. The myth of free elections is an important pressure relief for venting popular discontent. I believe the actions of our Elite are becoming increasingly arrogant and imprudent.

[Mar 12, 2021] Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. The Dems want greater voter participation but only if they are the beneficiaries

Mar 12, 2021 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Carolinian , March 10, 2021 at 10:52 am

So the Dems want greater voter participation but only if they are the beneficiaries. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.

The Duopoly is the real flaw in our system as some of us see it. What good is greater public involvement if the public only has two corrupt choices? It's still a rigged game.

[Mar 06, 2021] Lesson in history: Only the truly delusory ever believed in an honest count. In 1960 there would have been few places in US where anyone expected an honest count. And fewer where that expectation came to pass.

Mar 06, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

oldhippie , Mar 4 2021 21:15 utc | 24

bob Sykes @ 20

Richard J. Daley, also known as King Richard I, ran the most honest elections Chicago has ever had. Which is not saying much. Prior to Richard the basic system was City Hall told ward bosses what the numbers would be night before, ward bosses passed orders to precincts. Precincts did as told. It was notorious that African American precincts always turned out big numbers for the machine even though polling places never opened the doors.

I could tell quite a few stories about my own adventures in voting in Chicago in more recent years. Main reason to vote was until very recently a voters receipt was good for a free drink at many taverns. Also the precinct captain often kept track of who showed and who neglected to show. Only the truly delusory ever believed in an honest count. In 1960 there would have been few places in US where anyone expected an honest count. And fewer where that expectation came to pass.

[Mar 01, 2021] 4 Arrested In Texas On 150 Counts Of Voter Fraud - ZeroHedge

Mar 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

4 Arrested In Texas On 150 Counts Of Voter Fraud BY TYLER DURDEN MONDAY, MAR 01, 2021 - 14:40

Authored by Isabel von Brugen via The Epoch Times,

Four people were arrested in Texas last month on 150 counts of voter fraud dating back to the 2018 Medina County Primary Election, according to reports.

The Texas attorney general's Election Fraud Unit on Feb. 11 arrested Medina County Justice of the Peace Tomas Ramirez, and earlier detained Leonor Rivas Garza, Eva Ann Martinez and Mary Balderrama on election fraud allegations, News4SA reported.

According to a release from Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton's office, the case involved allegations of vote harvesting at assisted living centers in Medina County in the 2018 Medina County Primary Election.

Ramirez faces one count of organized election fraud, one count of assisting voter voting ballot by mail, and 17 counts of unlawful possession of a ballot or ballot envelope, according to the news outlet.

Balderrama is charged with one count of organized election fraud, nine counts of illegal voting, two counts of unlawful possession of ballot or ballot envelope, one count of mail ballot application, two counts of unlawfully assisting voter voting by mail, two counts of tampering with government record, and eight counts of election fraud.

Garza faces a single count of organized election fraud, two counts of illegal voting, eight counts of unlawful possession of a ballot or ballot envelope, two counts of election fraud and four counts of fraudulent use of an absentee ballot by mail.

Martinez is charged with a single count of organized election fraud, nine counts of illegal voting, 28 counts of unlawful possession of ballot or ballot envelope, three counts of purportedly acting as an agent, five counts of tampering with government record, 14 counts of election fraud, and four counts of fraudulent mail ballot application, according to News4SA .

The Texas attorney general's office didn't immediately respond to a request for comment by The Epoch Times.

In a separate incident, Raquel Rodriguez, a Texas woman who bragged about being able to deliver thousands of votes for tens of thousands in cash was arrested in January on charges including election fraud and illegal voting.

Rodriguez was filmed during an undercover project by Project Veritas, an investigative journalism nonprofit. She was recorded in footage released last year that she could deliver "at least 5,000" votes "county-wide" for $55,000 in cash and that it would hire her "entire team." She acknowledged what she was discussing could land her prison time.

Based on the footage, Paxton, a Republican, opened an investigation. That probe led to the arrest, Paxton announced on Jan. 13.

Rodriguez faces a prison sentence of up to 20 years if convicted.


1980XLS 17 minutes ago

Yawn.

When comes PA & GA?

Mr. Magniloquent 58 seconds ago (Edited)

New Hampshire might be where fraud gets unravelled . All it takes is one.

rjk0279 7 minutes ago remove link

Election fraud isn't real! Unless Trump wins again....

Francis Marximus 9 minutes ago

The high courts claimed that Trumps cases had no validity. But yet they refuse to see things like this. Corruption...corruption..corruption in the high courts.

BarneyFife714 7 minutes ago

Can't we just all agree please that voting our way out of tyranny is a pipe dream now?

KekistanisUnite 10 minutes ago

Alright how about some arrests in AZ, GA, MI, NV, PA, WI?

1980XLS 8 minutes ago

At this point, what difference would it make?

[Feb 10, 2021] ABSOLUTE PROOF

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[Feb 10, 2021] Presidential Election Wasn't 'Rigged'; It Was 'Fortified', Says Time Magazine by JAMES DELINGPOLE

Feb 05, 2021 | www.breitbart.com

Time has published an explainer piece offering a fascinating insight into how the presidential election was won. It's titled "The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 Election."

The fascinating part is what it tells us about the brazenness of the left in general and the corrupt, mendacious MSM in particular: they are now heavy-hinting that they cheated but want you to know that it's all OK because they were doing it to not to destroy democracy but to preserve and enhance it.
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That's why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system's fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.

Do you see what they just did there?

The Democrats (and their sympathisers) didn't rig the election. They just fortified it by taking care to ensure the right guy won rather than the wrong guy won, regardless of what those pesky voters might misguidedly have wanted.

Could this have anything to do, you wonder, with President Trump's upcoming impeachment trial?

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My suspicion that Time's piece is both pre-emptive strike and damage limitation exercise. It anticipates the possibility that Trump will provide evidence in support of his claim that the election was "stolen."

This evidence will be much harder to brush under the carpet in the Senate.

I'm reminded here of an old article from the Times (of London), which described the process whereby political projects are advanced by stealth.

It is at first denied that any radical new plan exists; it is then conceded that it exists but ministers swear blind that it is not even on the political agenda; it is then noted that it might well be on the agenda but is not a serious proposition; it is later conceded that it is a serious proposition but that it will never be implemented; after that it is acknowledge that it will be implemented but in such a diluted form that it will make no difference to the lives of ordinary people; at some point it is finally recognised that it has made such a difference, but it was always known that it would and voters were told so from the outset.

This is where we are headed now with the"'stolen" election. Columnists who blithely assured us that the election was above board may now begin to finesse their position.

"OK, so maybe it was rigged," they will start to concede. 'But isn't that always the case with elections? And anyway it's a done deal now."

Sorry, my bad -- that use of the word "rigged" was a complete slip of the tongue.

What I meant to say is that the presidential election was "fortified." And what's not to like about that, eh?

[Feb 05, 2021] Voting software firm Smartmatic files $2.7 billion suit against Fox, Giuliani Sidney Powell over election-fraud claims

Feb 05, 2021 | www.rt.com

Fox News is facing a rise of the machines, voting machines that is, as election software firm Smartmatic is suing the network, three of its anchors and lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell for allegedly false claims of fraud.

The defamation lawsuit , which was filed on Thursday in New York state court in Manhattan, seeks $2.7 billion in damages. In addition to Fox and the two lawyers, Smartmatic names Fox hosts Lou Dobbs, Jeanine Pirro and Maria Bartiromo as defendants, saying they falsely claimed that the company's technology was used to help 'steal' the November 3 election from former President Donald Trump.

Florida-based Smartmatic said the defendants knew the election wasn't rigged, "but they also saw an opportunity to capitalize on President Trump's popularity by inventing a story. Defendants decided to tell people that the election was stolen from President Trump and Vice President (Mike) Pence." The company added that "without any true villain, defendants invented one. Defendants decided to make Smartmatic the villain in their story."

Moreover, Smartmatic said its software was used in just one jurisdiction in the November 3 election – Los Angeles County. Democrat Joe Biden won California by more than 5 million votes. Trump made allegations of election fraud in decisive swing states where Biden had narrow margins of victory, such as Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

[Feb 05, 2021] We Got It! TGP to Release SMOKING GUN Video from TCF Center in Detroit! ...Update: OH BOY! Our Report WILL SHAKE the Political World!

Feb 05, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

The video can settle for once and for all:

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And after our initial review of the TCF security video, we can assure you -- We have evidence of illicit and likely criminal activity and we have it on video.

[Feb 03, 2021] Pennsylvania official at center of Trump election concerns resigns

Feb 03, 2021 | nypost.com

The Pennsylvania secretary of state who emerged as a villain to supporters of former President Donald Trump said Monday she will resign for failing to comply with an unrelated state election law.

Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat, will leave office on Feb. 5. Her office botched the handling of a state constitutional amendment that would allow more sexual abuse victims to sue their alleged abusers.

In a statement, she said, "I've always believed that accountability and leadership must be a cornerstone of public service. While I only became aware of the mistake last week, and immediately took steps to alert the administration to the error, I accept the responsibility on behalf of the department."

Pennsylvania law requires that proposed amendments pass the state legislature twice. The secretary of state's office must publicize the proposed amendment in two newspapers in each of the state's 67 counties ahead of the election between votes, which her office failed to do.

Gov. Tom Wolf, also a Democrat, announced Boockvar's resignation in a press release that stressed the issue was separate from the presidential election.

"This change at the Department of State has nothing to do with the administration of the 2020 election, which was fair and accurate," Wolf said .

[Jan 29, 2021] Five Days After Biden Inauguration, Judge Rules Late Changes To VA Election Law That Allowed Late Mail-in-Ballots Without Pos

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"... not making news ..."
Jan 29, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

One case that's not making news in the Democrat Party's mainstream media is a decision made by a Virginia judge on Monday. The judge ruled that last-minute changes made by election officials to allow absentee ballots with missing or illegible postmarks to be counted is illegal.

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Washington Examiner- "This is a big win for the Rule of Law," said Public Interest Legal Foundation President J. Christian Adams, who represented Frederick County electoral board member Thomas Reed in the case. "This consent decree gives Mr. Reed everything he requested -- a permanent ban on accepting ballots without postmarks after Election Day and is a loss for the Virginia bureaucrats who said ballots could come in without these protections."

The case was over a Virginia Board of Elections rule issued in August that allowed mail-in ballots without a postmark to be received up to three days after the November election.
The new Virginia Board of Elections rule notified county election boards that any ballots "received by the general registrar's office by noon on the third day after the election but does not have a postmark, or the postmark is missing or illegible" should not be rendered invalid. The elections board decided a week later that those ballots should be counted. One win for Virginia voters who care about election integrity. It's a pity this practice wasn't stopped BEFORE the ballots were tabulated in the November election.

[Jan 29, 2021] The Democrat Gaslight Express by Larry Johnson

Jan 29, 2021 | turcopolier.typepad.com

TV | 28 January 2021 at 11:49 PM

The Democrat-media party made no secret of their plan to use Covid panic and junk mail balloting to manipulate the election.

The Trump campaign was asleep At the switch and let it happen.

Trump lost- hook or by crook, it doesn't matter.

Then the Giuliani/Powell foolishness only made the whole bunch look stupid and actually hurt any real arguments about fraud.

Now, we are in a very bad place thanks to Democrat criminality, Trump campaign incompetence and masses of uninformed, badly educated voters.

Next, "green new deal" taxes and job losses for the very middle class that voted Biden because Trump - the rude "orange man" - sent "mean" tweets.

Life's tough, it's tougher when you're stupid.

Seamus Padraig , 29 January 2021 at 04:50 AM

Good points all, Larry.

I also noticed two months ago how quickly the vital questions concerning the mail-on ballots got diverted into some wild goose-chase involving voting machine software from Venezuela. Another attempt at side-tracking the investigation and drumming up support for 'régime change'?

As far as the Q-Anons themselves are concerned, I always sympathized with them to a large extent, even though I thought their 'theories' were a little off. Most of them are good people by nature, but perhaps just a little too credulous. I agree with Larry here: put your faith in God, not man. When analyzing the events of this world, stick to evidence and logic as much as you can. At the end of the day, hope is just another drug--hopium--that can skew your judgment ... which is just what the enemy wants.

But I have to admit that I still like the Q-Anon motto: 'Where we go one, we go all' (WWG1WGA). I'd like to rehabilitate it for general use by us deplorables, if I may. ;-)

Mark Gaughan , 29 January 2021 at 10:11 AM

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[Jan 27, 2021] DuPage County Illinois Signed -Anti-Transparency Contract- with Dominion Voting Systems - Company Pushed County to Resist Rel

Jan 27, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

When people are denied public records they routinely reach out to us for assistance and more often than not, we are able to request the same records and we get them. When this happens it is an indicator of a problem because if we are able to get those records, so too should others.

The DuPage County Clerk Jean Kaczmarek and her Chief Deputy Scott Mackay signed a contract with Dominion Voting Systems Inc. on January 24, 2020. After a copy of that contract was requested by an individual and denied, we were asked to assist in getting the same records. Our Freedom of Information Act request was granted and we find the Dominion Voting Systems encouragements to avoid transparency very troubling.

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From the Contract:

  • 8. Customer shall take any and all action necessary or appropriate to assert all applicable or potentially applicable exemptions from disclosure under the FOIA Statute and take all other legally permissible steps to resist disclosure of the Information including, without limitation, commencement or defense of any legal actions related to such disclosure. In the event Customer receives a request for Information under the FOIA Statute, Customer shall inform Dominion of such request within ten (10) days of Customer's knowledge or such shorter period as necessary under the FOIA Statute to avoid prejudice to Dominion's ability to oppose disclosure , Dominion shall use its best efforts to assist and support Customer's exercise of any statutory exemption in denying a records request under the Freedom of Information Act (5 ILCS 140/1 et seq.). In the event that Customer becomes subject to fines, costs or fees pursuant to Section 11 of the Freedom of Information Act (5 ICLS 140/11) relying upon Dominion's claim that the information requested is exempt, Dominion shall indemnify Customer for those fines, fees and costs, notwithstanding any other provisions In this agreement. In the event Customer is required by court order to disclose any of the Information, Customer shall give written notice to Dominion at the earlier as soon as reasonably practical after tile imposition of such an order.

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There are exemptions under FOIA regarding trade secrets and we understand such exemptions and their applicability to certain information. However, the language in this contract focuses on encouraging, in fact, instructing the County that they " shall " take any and all action necessary or appropriate to assert " potentially applicable exemptions from disclosure " and to take all other legally permissible steps to resist disclosure of the information.

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[Jan 26, 2021] Dominion sues Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani for $1.3 billion over election fraud claims

Looks like Dominion now can capitalize on Jan 6 events...
Notable quotes:
"... The lawsuit was filed in the Federal District Court in Washington, DC on Monday. The massive 107-page document lists over 50 statements from Giuliani which he made on Twitter, his podcast, in the media, and during legislative hearings about Dominion – one of the largest companies selling voting machines used in the US. ..."
"... To illustrate the damage presumably done by Giuliani, the lawsuit provides a long list of screenshots from assorted internet uses, primarily from Twitter, fuming at Dominion and accusing it of facilitating the election "steal." The voting machines and sharp spikes in vote counts in favor of Joe Biden, widely attributed to the system, have been among the centerpieces of conspiracy theories for the pro-Trump crowd in the aftermath of the turbulent election. ..."
"... The lawsuit also highlights Giuliani's role in the January 6 Capitol Hill riot, accusing him of stirring up the violence. The document quotes Giuliani's address at the pro-Trump rally shortly before the violence, when he urged supporters to engage in "trial by combat." ..."
Jan 25, 2021 | www.rt.com
Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani is being sued by Dominion Voting Systems over claims of fraud during the 2020 US presidential election. The company is seeking $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages.

The lawsuit was filed in the Federal District Court in Washington, DC on Monday. The massive 107-page document lists over 50 statements from Giuliani which he made on Twitter, his podcast, in the media, and during legislative hearings about Dominion – one of the largest companies selling voting machines used in the US.

Giuliani, like many other prominent supporters of former President Donald Trump, has repeatedly pointed the finger at the company as one of the main culprits behind Trump's election loss. Dominion has been accused of being part of an alleged plot to fix the election in favor of the Democrats, which, alongside mass mail-in voting, allegedly facilitated the "steal" of Trump's presumed 'victory'.

Dominion has accused Giuliani of waging a "viral disinformation campaign" and repeatedly producing "defamatory falsehoods" about it. It also claimed the allegedly false statements from Trump's lawyer have stirred up a storm of death threats against its employees.

To illustrate the damage presumably done by Giuliani, the lawsuit provides a long list of screenshots from assorted internet uses, primarily from Twitter, fuming at Dominion and accusing it of facilitating the election "steal." The voting machines and sharp spikes in vote counts in favor of Joe Biden, widely attributed to the system, have been among the centerpieces of conspiracy theories for the pro-Trump crowd in the aftermath of the turbulent election.

The lawsuit also highlights Giuliani's role in the January 6 Capitol Hill riot, accusing him of stirring up the violence. The document quotes Giuliani's address at the pro-Trump rally shortly before the violence, when he urged supporters to engage in "trial by combat."

The company is seeking at least $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages from Giuliani, demanding a trial by jury, according to the court documents.

The lawsuit against Giuliani largely resembles the one against another pro-Trump lawyer, Sidney Powell, filed by the company earlier this month. Powell has been accused of waging a "viral disinformation campaign" as well, with Dominion seeking the same eye-watering sum of 1.3 billion in damages from her.

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FelixTcat 8 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 02:48 PM

"Election results in a county in Michigan had to be corrected to show that President Trump won by nearly 2,000 votes after voting software gave 6,000 of his votes to Biden ." Which probably never would have been check if Antrim County wasn't such a Red county. Hard to find fraud when you refuse to look for it.
LeRuscino2 Sue Brown 11 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 11:08 AM
Exactly - Scream & shout 1st like MH-17 & when it's settled & Guiliani wins nobody will know or even remember.
Banalucki 3 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 07:46 PM
so classic americana - the business that created an electronic voting "process" that eliminates chain of custody protection, signatures and voter ID is suing Rudy for "fraud"...
Thomas51 2 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 08:26 PM
Political actions of any lawyer should bear consequences
VonnDuff1 2 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 08:01 PM
SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Policy) and nothing more. Unless you throw in Kangaroo Courts with Monkey Judges.
Trekker 8 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 02:36 PM
Good to put Giuliani away once and for all for all the damage he has caused.
GottaBeMe Skeptic076 7 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 03:39 PM
They'll have to audit the computer code finally. And they'll have to do it using machines in swing states that haven't been touched since November. Otherwise it's them saying one thing, Giuliani saying something else.
Pete Wagner 7 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 03:11 PM
I guess that means they've destroyed all the damning evidence and have their judge briefed, paid off, and ready to rule.
Sue Brown 12 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 10:53 AM
Typical USA style, don't defend yourself . . . when wronged = SUE!!!!
Enki14 9 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 01:54 PM
Methinks this is a publicity stunt as they would not want a jury of Powell's peers to see the evidence Patrick Byrne PH.D. has amassed and the hundreds of witnesses that would be called to testify on Powell's behalf. Methinks they managed to destroy the evidence on their hard drives and thus feel the evidence would be viewed as circumstantial. However the pathways are real, were tracked and saved.

[Jan 25, 2021] The Democrats' First Bill of 2021 Is to Lock In Fraudulent Election Maneuvers and Steal Elections in Perpetuity

Jan 25, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Democrats introduce their first bill in the House: H.R.1 – The bill that will destroy America. Nationwide mail-in voting, banning restrictions on ballot harvesting, banning voter ID, criminal voters,DC Statehood roadwork, it's all in here.

1) Internet-only registration with electronic signature submission.

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"(a) Requiring Availability Of Internet For Online Registration. -- Each State, acting through the chief State election official, shall ensure that the following services are available to the public at any time on the official public websites of the appropriate State and local election officials in the State, in the same manner and subject to the same terms and conditions as the services provided by voter registration agencies under section 7(a):

"(1) Online application for voter registration.

2) Banning the requirement to provide a full SSN for voter registration.

SEC. 1005. PROHIBITING STATE FROM REQUIRING APPLICANTS TO PROVIDE MORE THAN LAST 4 DIGITS OF SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. (a) Form Included With Application For Motor Vehicle Driver's License. -- Section 5(c)(2)(B)(ii) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20504(c)(2)(B)(ii)) is amended by striking the semicolon at the end and inserting the following: ", and to the extent that the application requires the applicant to provide a Social Security number, may not require the applicant to provide more than the last 4 digits of such number;".

3) Nationwide 'Motor Voter' registration.

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Note that motor voter registration is how thousands of illegal became registered voters in California and Nevada.

(2) DEFINITION. -- The term "automatic registration" means a system that registers an individual to vote in elections for Federal office in a State, if eligible, by electronically transferring the information necessary for registration from government agencies to election officials of the State so that, unless the individual affirmatively declines to be registered, the individual will be registered to vote in such elections.

4) 16 year olds required to be registered to vote.

(d) Treatment Of Individuals Under 18 Years Of Age. -- A State may not refuse to treat an individual as an eligible individual for purposes of this part on the grounds that the individual is less than 18 years of age at the time a contributing agency receives information with respect to the individual, so long as the individual is at least 16 years of age at such time. Nothing in the previous sentence may be construed to require a State to permit an individual who is under 18 years of age at the time of an election for Federal office to vote in the election.

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5) Nationwide same-day registration.

"(1) REGISTRATION. -- Each State shall permit any eligible individual on the day of a Federal election and on any day when voting, including early voting, is permitted for a Federal election --

"(A) to register to vote in such election at the polling place using a form that meets the requirements under section 9(b) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (or, if the individual is already registered to vote, to revise any of the individual's voter registration information); and

"(B) to cast a vote in such election.

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6) Grants ($25M) for using minors in election activities.

(1) IN GENERAL. -- The Election Assistance Commission (hereafter in this section referred to as the "Commission") shall make grants to eligible States to enable such States to carry out a plan to increase the involvement of individuals under 18 years of age in public election activities in the State.

7) More children voters.

"(k) Acceptance Of Applications From Individuals Under 18 Years Of Age. --

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- A State may not refuse to accept or process an individual's application to register to vote in elections for Federal office on the grounds that the individual is under 18 years of age at the time the individual submits the application, so long as the individual is at least 16 years of age at such time.

8) Prohibiting attempts to clean voter rolls of non-residents.

It's this whole section, but in particular, this part below basically says nobody is allowed to request voter rolls to be cleaned up. ie: making it illegal to do what Tom Fitton was doing.

"(1) REQUIREMENTS FOR CHALLENGES. -- No person, other than a State or local election official, shall submit a formal challenge to an individual's eligibility to register to vote in an election for Federal office or to vote in an election for Federal office unless that challenge is supported by personal knowledge regarding the grounds for ineligibility which is --

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9) Murderers and rapists can vote.

(1) NOTIFICATION. -- On the date determined under paragraph (2), each State shall notify in writing any individual who has been convicted of a criminal offense under the law of that State that such individual has the right to vote in an election for Federal office pursuant to the Democracy Restoration Act of 2021 and may register to vote in any such election and provide such individual with any materials that are necessary to register to vote in any such election.

10) Mandatory early voting.

Note that I personally like early voting in Florida, but putting it here anyway.

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- Each State shall allow individuals to vote in an election for Federal office during an early voting period which occurs prior to the date of the election, in the same manner as voting is allowed on such date.

11) THE BIG ONE – NATIONWIDE VOTE BY MAIL, BAN ON BALLOT PROTECTION MEASURES, LEGALIZED LIMITLESS BALLOT HARVESTING.

"SEC. 307. PROMOTING ABILITY OF VOTERS TO VOTE BY MAIL.

"(a) Uniform Availability Of Absentee Voting To All Voters. --

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- If an individual in a State is eligible to cast a vote in an election for Federal office, the State may not impose any additional conditions or requirements on the eligibility of the individual to cast the vote in such election by absentee ballot by mail.

"(2) ADMINISTRATION OF VOTING BY MAIL. --

"(A) PROHIBITING IDENTIFICATION REQUIREMENT AS CONDITION OF OBTAINING BALLOT. -- A State may not require an individual to provide any form of identification as a condition of obtaining an absentee ballot, except that nothing in this paragraph may be construed to prevent a State from requiring a signature of the individual or similar affirmation as a condition of obtaining an absentee ballot.

"(B) PROHIBITING REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE NOTARIZATION OR WITNESS SIGNATURE AS CONDITION OF OBTAINING OR CASTING BALLOT. -- A State may not require notarization or witness signature or other formal authentication (other than voter attestation) as a condition of obtaining or casting an absentee ballot.

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"(2) PERMITTING VOTERS TO DESIGNATE OTHER PERSON TO RETURN BALLOT. -- The State --

"(A) shall permit a voter to designate any person to return a voted and sealed absentee ballot to the post office, a ballot drop-off location, tribally designated building, or election office so long as the person designated to return the ballot does not receive any form of compensation based on the number of ballots that the person has returned and no individual, group, or organization provides compensation on this basis; and

"(B) may not put any limit on how many voted and sealed absentee ballots any designated person can return to the post office, a ballot drop off location, tribally designated building, or election office.

12) Banning voter ID.

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- Except as provided in subsection (c), if a State has in effect a requirement that an individual present identification as a condition of receiving and casting a ballot in an election for Federal office, the State shall permit the individual to meet the requirement --

"(A) in the case of an individual who desires to vote in person, by presenting the appropriate State or local election official with a sworn written statement, signed by the individual under penalty of perjury, attesting to the individual's identity and attesting that the individual is eligible to vote in the election; or

13) Roadwork for DC statehood and territory statehood.

The whole subtitle.

[Jan 24, 2021] As I recall in 2016 Jill Stein had both audits and recounts beginning two weeks after the election.

Notable quotes:
"... One of the authors cited Wall Street, banks and voting as examples of guaranteed fraud, because it's so easy – naive stupidity on our part knows no bounds. That includes me! It all took place under CIA watch! ..."
Nov 30, 2020 | www.unz.com

Old and Grumpy , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

So what? Has there been any legal action actually being done against Dominion and the election? How about some simple audited vote recounting? As I recall in 2016 Jill Stein had both audits and recounts beginning two weeks after the election. Donald Trump hasn't done anything other than golf.

Whining is just meant to stir us up because the deep staters really want the right white wing to go hot. Can you imagine how sad they would be if their planned color flag revolution violent stage mean't they would have to kill off some of their miscreant human assets? All that work down the drain because of some damn stubborn white people.

For the record, I really want to be wrong on this.

Crush Limbraw , says: Website Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

First, I want to thank a commenter on another site last week who provided a link to Gary North's report on computerized electoral fraud – talk about making ballot stuffing easy and hard to prove!

So I posted this thread in DaLimbraw Library – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/11/beyond-shameful-why-it-all-developed.html?m=0 – it shows that it goes back decades to the 60's. In fact, DaBastahds who understood computer systems were salivating to start computerized voting fraud almost immediately and improved their techniques constantly to this day.

Shit, any dummy with basic coding skills could probably do it! North has documented examples.

One whistleblower, for example, asserts that Pat Buchanan was gypped in the 96 AZ primary in favor of Dole – computerized 'glitches'?

We've all heard 'Garbage in-garbage out' – if you think about it, considering the intelligence of the average voting dumbquat, it would be impossible NOT to have computerized fraud – undetected!

Most of us trust those screens we stare at – forgetting totally that we're being programmed to trust them – while being manipulated.

Did you ever notice the 'coincidence' of computer dependent fraud in three institutions?

One of the authors cited Wall Street, banks and voting as examples of guaranteed fraud, because it's so easy – naive stupidity on our part knows no bounds. That includes me! It all took place under CIA watch!

follyofwar , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago
@Old and Grumpy

How can you conduct a successful audit or recount when the secret ballots were separated from the envelops they came in when they were opened? There is no way to tell who the individual voters voted for. That's why democrats insisted on mail-in ballots, using the (deadly?) corona virus as their excuse. It seems that voting at the polls on election day is for republican chumps. BTW, Jill Stein's recounts in 2016 went nowhere.

[Jan 24, 2021] Rand Paul Slams Stephanopoulos In Sunday Spat Over Election Integrity

Notable quotes:
"... "The debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur. We never had any presentation in court where we ever looked at the evidence..." ..."
"... '75% of Republicans want to look at election integrity,' Paul responds. Stephanopoulos responds by saying that those 75% agree with him because they were "fed a big lie" from the President. ..."
"... Paul pushed back, telling Stephanopoulos: "You immediately say everything's a lie instead of saying there's two sides to everything. Historically what would happen is if I said I thought there was fraud, you'd interview someone else who said there wasn't. But now you insert yourself in the middle and say that the absolute fact is that everything I'm saying is a lie." ..."
"... You gotta ask the question of Rand here though, even as a lone voice of reason that Rand Paul is he and the Trump supporting Senators failed the Republic. They needed to push forward and introduce the Election Fraud evidence after the Jan. 6 planned interruption of the evidence hearing. Why didn't the Election fraud evidence get its day in front of Congress? The Fraud needed to be part of the historical record, and it was not. ..."
"... South Philly judge of elections admits he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates ..."
"... The problem is that there are only a few decent human beings in the Republic leadership who are not entirely in the pocket of the RNC, which is entirely in the pocket of the globalists. ..."
"... The MSM has given up the pretense of being journalists. They are full-fledged propagandist attack dogs and proud of it. ..."
Jan 24, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) took to ABC on Sunday morning with George Stephanopoulos to discuss election integrity of the 2020 election, in a discussion which immediately devolved into an inquisition during which Paul was repeatedly pressed to disavow clams that the election was stolen.

Paul not only pushed back -- he put Stephanopoulos in his place, accusing the host of 'inserting yourself in the middle' and 'forgetting who you are as a journalist.'

Stephanopoulos began by asking Paul to admit the "election was not stolen" -- to which Paul responded by saying "The debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur. We never had any presentation in court where we ever looked at the evidence..."

Paul continued: "There were several states in which the law was changed by the Secretary of State and not the state legislature. To me those are clearly unconstitutional and I think there's still a chance those do finally work their way up to the Supreme Court."

"No election is perfect," Stephanopoulos shot back , telling Paul there were "86 challenges filed by President Trump, all were dismissed". As Paul tries to argue that many cases were dismissed for lack of standing and not due to examination of evidence, Stephanopoulos responds: " Can't you just say the words 'this election wasn't stolen'? "

'75% of Republicans want to look at election integrity,' Paul responds. Stephanopoulos responds by saying that those 75% agree with him because they were "fed a big lie" from the President.

Paul pushed back, telling Stephanopoulos: "You immediately say everything's a lie instead of saying there's two sides to everything. Historically what would happen is if I said I thought there was fraud, you'd interview someone else who said there wasn't. But now you insert yourself in the middle and say that the absolute fact is that everything I'm saying is a lie."

"You're saying there's no fraud and it's all been investigated and that's just not true," Paul continues, with Stephanopoulos arguing at the same time. Paul then goes into specifics, detailing irregularities in states in like Wisconsin. "I plan on spending the next two years going around, state to state, fixing these problems," Paul continues. "Let's have an open debate. It's a free country!"

"There has been no thorough examination of all states to see what problems we had and see if we could fix them," Paul says, responding to Stephanopoulos' claims that Bill Barr pronounced there was "no widespread election fraud".

"There's two sides to every story," Paul says. "Interview someone on the other side, but don't insert yourself into the story to say we're all liars."

"You're forgetting who you are as a journalist if you think there's only one side," Paul says. "A journalist would hear both sides and there are two sides to this story."

You can watch the entire 6 minute exchange here:

https://platform.twitter.com

Election integrity aside, Paul has been a vocal critic of the Biden administration in recent days . On Saturday, we noted Paul's interview with Fox host Sean Hannity, where he pummeled the Biden administration's decision to push for a $15 minimum wage increase that could put 4 million people out of work - leading the Kentucky Republican to exclaim:

"'Why does Joe Biden hate Black teenagers?' ... Why does Joe Biden want to destroy all of these jobs?"

Paul comments come amid ramblings from various leftist economists who insist that there's no impact on employment from such a drastic minimum wage hike...

https://player.cnbc.com/p/gZWlPC/cnbc_global?playertype=synd&byGuid=7000173838

...common sense (and historical experience) for anyone who has ever run an actual business is that raising costs on the lowest-skilled workers in your organization will ripple all the way up, forcing either higher prices to the end-user (eradicating the 'living wage' improvement) and or forcing layoffs as management hold margins and reduce costs (the least-skilled first).

Historically speaking, the black unemployment rate is twice that of whites , while minimum wage increases - as we've shown repeatedly over the last week - correlate with spikes in job losses just about every single time.

That's not an "alternative" fact, that's the awkward reality of 'unintended consequences' from nanny-state intervention write large for the last 70 years.

Paul also blasted Biden for canceling the Keystone XL oil pipeline:

"It's kind of a strange beginning to an administration," Paul said. "You're going to put your best foot forward and the first thing you say is, 'This is how I'm going to kill jobs' ... 'I'm going to kill thousands of jobs of the Keystone pipeline with ending it.'"

You can watch that full interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/x0zmmYMTMQc



various2 1 hour ago

Nobody disputes billionaires conspiracy election fraud to destroy political nationalism...

sgt_doom 16 minutes ago (Edited)

ELECTION INTEGRITY: The Great American Myth

Background: Fractional Magic (Bev Harris and Bennie Smith explain GEMS software, still used in Dominion Voting Systems)

https://youtu.be/Fob-AGgZn44

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Data scientists explain what went down in Georgia and Pennsylvania

https://youtu.be/IKiyAy9vjrk

https://youtu.be/EM8pC1pAizc

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The media view: watching ballot numbers flip on TV

https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html

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State--level criticism:

https://youtu.be/6CnFhbNP_1c

https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/laws/dominion.shtml

Explanation : There are multiple ways to commit election fraud using Dominion systems but the most efficient manner is the full spectrum two-step process.

First at the adjudication step -- effectively covered in the data scientists' presentation on Georgia video -- massive ballot flipping and with the previous ballot images deleted, no trail remains.

Secondly at the tabulator stage (GEMS software, covered in detail in the Fractional Magic video) ----- so ballots which were not adjudicated, and in some counties 90% went to the adjudication process, proceeded to the tabulation step where they could be fractionalized.

Boing_Snap 20 minutes ago

You gotta ask the question of Rand here though, even as a lone voice of reason that Rand Paul is he and the Trump supporting Senators failed the Republic. They needed to push forward and introduce the Election Fraud evidence after the Jan. 6 planned interruption of the evidence hearing. Why didn't the Election fraud evidence get its day in front of Congress? The Fraud needed to be part of the historical record, and it was not.

nmewn 2 hours ago (Edited)

George Stephanopoulos: "There was not enough fraud to..."

Oh. So thats how the Leftardian brain works! Thank you Georgie boi. You now admit to voter fraud whereby legitimate votes were cancelled out by the fraud but it is your opinion that there was not enough fraud for it to matter. Never again do I want to hear this little runt of the litter yapping "Every vote matters!"

Feck Weed 2 hours ago

That's the fallback, the "widespread" qualifier.

Cheapie 1 hour ago

Yes, "Mostly honest election."

dark_matter 15 minutes ago

Just like mostly peaceful protestors as the buildings burn.

Zero-Hegemon 2 hours ago

Yes, "just enough" fraud to cover for Traitor Joe, but NOT ENOUGH to warrant a look into the allegations. You got his number.

Samual Vimes 2 hours ago

South Philly judge of elections admits he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates

https://www.inquirer.com/news/voter-fraud-philadelphia-ward-leader-judge-of-elections-domenick-demuro-guilty-plea-20200521.html

Huxley's Ghost 1 hour ago

Public schools have zero tolerance for 'bullying' (that definition has been broadened to irrelevance) or acting out for grade schools kids who barely have the ability to control themselves... but SOME election fraud is ok. Shining examples of values-driven integrity.

FluTangClan 2 hours ago

Stephanopoulos is Bill Clinton's lapdog. He's not a journalist. He's a democratic party operative and always has been. He's a warmonger dwarf. He was there for banging interns with cigars. He was there for Vince Foster...

Samual Vimes 2 hours ago

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/1-5-mail-ballots-rejected-4-charged-fraud-new-jersey-election

Samual Vimes 1 hour ago

Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

Samual Vimes 1 hour ago

A Running Compendium Of Fraud Charges In Election 2020

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/running-compendium-fraud-charges-election-2020

LetThemEatRand 2 hours ago

I would say Rand Paul is one of the few Republicans who is not corrupted. He's not perfect either, but he seems to be one of a handful who tries to do something he promised to his voters. As you point out, the problem isn't that there are a few RINOs. The problem is that there are only a few decent human beings in the Republic leadership who are not entirely in the pocket of the RNC, which is entirely in the pocket of the globalists.

Jim in MN 2 hours ago

https://results.philadelphiavotes.com/ResultsSW.aspx?type=FED&map=CTY#page-3

Wards 1 and 2, all districts, 'normal' results with Trump around 5-15% (he officially won 12% of the black vote and 18% of the black male vote nationwide).

Ward 3 district 1.....and the next few hundred districts in Wards 3, 4, 5, etc.....98%+ D.

Stolen votes. Mostly black men's votes.

Then do Detroit. Same thing, a 'buffer page' or two of normal looking results and then bam 98+% D.

Simple corruption, simple cheating.

NOW we can talk about the chain of custody of the mail-in 'thingies' and the security of the electronic systems.....but only if you can admit the bald truth in the DNC machine cities.

Jim in MN 2 hours ago

https://detroitmi.gov/webapp/election-results

Do it or STFU.

ebworthen 2 hours ago

The MSM has given up the pretense of being journalists. They are full-fledged propagandist attack dogs and proud of it.

Handful of Dust 2 hours ago (Edited)

One problem Georgie and his Demorat pals have, is the 100 million people who listened to the State Legislative hearings with Rudy where hundreds of witnesses came forward with credible evidence of fraud. Then there are the video segments of evidence of fraud. Then you have a dozen of the world's top forensic data people coming from all over including forensic teams from Wall Street who testified "there is zero probability Biden could have gotten those numbers."

Inconvenient facts that provide overwhelming proof of fraud. That's why Dems are still in a tizzy and have 50,000 soldiers and police protecting His Majesty Biden...but this is not going away from what Rand Paul says.

"Da peeples love me so much I need 15 platoons of soldiers for protection," Pol Pot yelled to the rabble below his bullet-proof, bomb-proof balcony.

Rattling Bones 2 hours ago

How come Stephanopoulos can't say the words 'there was no Russian collusion'?

Demologos 2 hours ago

He enjoys his nice fat paycheck for looking the other way.

That Old Magic 2 hours ago

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it ." ― Upton Sinclair

philmannwright 2 hours ago

George is not a journalist puhlease everyone knows that. He is the el chapito of the dem media

FluTangClan 2 hours ago

Thank you. He was on Bill Clinton's staff. He was a happy part of bombing Iraqi babies, bombing Yugoslavia, bombing phkn Sudan based on internet searches. He has zero credibility. His credibility is buried with Vince Foster.

adr 2 hours ago (Edited)

They can never allow the evidence to be presented because it is overwhelming proof of fraud. If there was no fraud, then there would be no harm in having evidence presented in court. The absolute proof of fraud is the number of adjudicated ballots. Were 68% of people in Georgia really incompetent enough to not know how to fill out a ballot.

The other irrefutable fact is that the state of PA did not follow an order from the US supreme court to separate ballots received after election day. Also in Philadelphia election officials destroyed the envelopes so they could not be matched with ballots.

Even if Biden really did win those two states, which he didn't, the actions of the election supervisors invalidated the election. The only recourse was to have a new election in disputed states.

headless blogger 1 hour ago (Edited)

Plus, Paul is not the best person to make the case for the American people on election integrity, as he isn't even an attorney. He can't debate the issue properly which allows the Psy-ops operators like Steph to out maneuver him.

People need FACTS, which so far the election integrity researchers are not providing in a logical and chronological format. The PSY OPS operation that pulled off the Coup, are smooth operators and are now able to clean up any loose ends with their media.

What needs to happen is an independent investigation that can present the findings in a way that people understand. As it is, they keep screaming election fraud, but aren't providing details in an orderly manner so nobody can really get a grip on what happened.....

....which is the hallmark of a psy-ops operation; they don't want you to be able to process what happened logically and chronologically.

yerfej 43 minutes ago

No, they have implemented a very good long term strategy to take over the positions of power. Academia is a good example where they own it and now have the ability to pollute minds rather than get students to look at all sides of the equation. That doesn't do anyone outside of the elites any good. Reality is its not a left vs. right thing, its the common people vs. the elites.

rkb100100 2 hours ago

"No election is perfect" - that'll be carved on the countries tombstone.

Lost in translation 1 hour ago

Blows my mind that people forget so quickly how he turned - or just overlook it - and continue in the foolish belief "Rand is one of the good guys!"

People reveal themselves in a crisis. Rand certainly did...

TruthAbsolute 1 hour ago

of course there was election fraud...and the democrats have set up a system that protects them well. All the way up to the judicial system and if not their judge then families are threaten. There is is no integrity in politics, these people are not honest or very, very few of them! They are not working for the people but ultimately for themselves and their life treasure chess! USA has become very Evil minded!

Jam 1 hour ago remove link

Nice to see Paul not backing down, someone in politics still has a backbone and can tell it like it is besides Trump.

[Jan 24, 2021] DATA EXPERT- 200,000 Pennsylvania Ballots Were Modified After Election - A Sampling of 100,000 Arizona Ballots Show 'Material

Jan 24, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

There was fraud everywhere in the 2020 election and to not address this is to destroy the future of our children while stomping on the graves of those who died for this country.

We've pointed out literally a million invalid ballots which were included in the 'certified' results in the 2020 election in three states alone:

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The Democrats want to punish you for discussing this massive fraud and the Republicans want to say it didn't happen. What is wrong with this picture?

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Now today, we have a copy of the letter from data analyst Bobby Piton to the Arizona legislature in December. Remember, Piton testified in front of the Arizona legislature about the blatant fraud in that state and bet his life on the results.

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Pitton also notes that 200,000 Pennsylvania ballots were edited the day after the election. The letter from Bobby Piton to the Arizona legislature is below:

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The Arizona legislature did pass a motion to forensically audit the votes in Maricopa County, the most populous county in the state which includes Phoenix. But now the Board of Supervisors are attempting to prevent a 'real' audit from the likes of Jovan Hutton Pulitzer and instead have their choice of auditor perform the audit.

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The Mirror
4 hours ago
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Personally I don't care what political side one is on..... this IS about the process !
If the corruption of the process is NOT fixed, then this Country IS dead !

Coherent Order The Mirror 4 hours ago ,

That is why we need to keep protesting in the millions without the Trump and MAGA hats. Do not associate with any group and protest as everyday average Jane and Joe Americans - that way the tyrants cannot label us to any affiliation.

George Coherent Order 4 hours ago • edited ,

Wrong they will still label us according to race and they will still replace us with newly minted citizens

Back from the dead George 4 hours ago ,

Identity politics is segregation.

Emron McCabe Back from the dead 3 hours ago • edited ,

The kkk has been resurrected and is operating in full swing by the left. Everyone the left appears to embrace from those with deviant sexual behavior to those of certain races are pawns. They use them to advance their totalitarian agenda. Once the commiecraps get what they want, the pawns will be eliminated.

blacknoon Coherent Order 3 hours ago ,

Unorganized protest will never even get out the front door. You must have leadership to direct people's efforts. War doesn't always means military and firearms. Weapons can be simply protest signs, advertisements on tv and online, mass mailings, phone calls, supplies is money to make the signs, to purchase the ads, tools and equipment to make protest signs, food, water, car pools to get those who can't or don't have the means to travel and reduce over all cost. Business is war, and war is business.

Ask any union boss about strikes and all the planning that goes into one. You just don't show up one day and get pissed off and tell the boss hey I'm going on strike and hope others will just get fed up like you and walk off. Nope that almost never happens.

There is always talk, planning, defining of goals and so on. Even boycotts don't work unless there is a clearly defining means of what is the purpose of the boycotts and what it takes to end it. Unified effort gets noticed and produces results. Random effort isn't even noticed by anyone. So go ahead and do your own independent protest and let's see how far you get. Now you get tens of thousands to millions of people to go along with you, now you get CHANGE. Even in Hong Kong, it's a quagmire. No good organized protesting.

A whole bunch of people causing chaos and a lot of people dying, jailed, and flat out disappearing. When someone does come on board and start organizing the resistance, they start making head way until the CCP whacks the person off and then it's back to ineffective chaos.

That is where clear lines of authority comes into play. When the leader is disposed, a recognized new one takes the person's place without a hiccup and the battle continues.

[Jan 24, 2021] The burden of proof remains upon those claiming the election was honest to provide irrefutable evidence to support the claim

Jan 24, 2021 | off-guardian.org

They should iether explain proven anomalies or shut up Jan 23, 2021

The burden of proof remains upon those claiming the election was honest to provide irrefutable evidence to support the claim.

Presidential vote fraud is immaterial, anyway, because the US Constitution empowers each State Legislature to assign Electoral College Electors any way they so choose. If State Legislatures choose their Electors according to the fake results from fake elections, that is their Constitutional right to do so. Even if the States pass laws to the contrary, if they choose not to prosecute their own lawbreaking, the outcome is the same: whatever the State Legislatures want or tolerate irregardless of votes from the People. Constitutionally, Presidential elections are decided by votes of the People for their respective State Legislators, you remember, those nameless, low-paid, locally elected State Representatives and State Senators. 1 0 Reply

Bill Beeby , Jan 23, 2021 9:41 AM

Trump was the perfect catalyst for this to happen it would seem and he is well out of it. Old Joe has some tough times ahead and compared to Trump he is a pushover.

[Jan 24, 2021] The world just witnessed TOTAL collusion between big business and a so called neoliebral government, right here in the USof A

Jan 24, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Tannenhouser , Jan 23 2021 0:25 utc | 89

@83. The world just witnessed TOTAL collusion between big business and a so called left government, right here in the USof A. Did u really just come here and say fascism is from the right only. Wow dude yer seriously bent. Happy to be wrong. If u didnt say that then please explain what you ment.

[Jan 22, 2021] Zone B exists, thus there is hope, I promise you!, by The Saker

Jan 22, 2021 | www.unz.com

while I don't believe in the existence of US domestic terrorists, I do believe that millions of US citizens are convinced that the vote was stolen. These people are understandably disgusted and angry. Many might be desperate or even despondent. Let's call them the "deplorables" and consider it a badge of honor. Well, these deporables won't take DC by force, but they will never trust a Dem or GOP politician again, and neither will they ever trust the corporate media. One of the blessings in disguise of this stolen election is that the GOP and Fox News have shown their true faces, and their faces are evil, stupid and ugly. 4 years ago millions of US citizens did not so much vote for Trump as much as they voted against Hillary whom they (correctly) saw as a symbol and metaphor for the entire "deep state", or "swamp" or "ZOG" or whatever other expression you prefer.

These deplorables first trusted Obama ("change we can believe in") and, later, Trump (MAGA). Now they know that both sides are equally evil and false.

In the past, both factions of the Big Money Party had safety valves (Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street, Rand Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders, etc.). I think that now the two parties are literally standing naked and boy is that an ugly sight!

Third, and this point I primarily address to my readers in the USA and that will force me to make a sidebar primarily directed at them:

[Sidebar: the planet can be divided into 2 rough parts: ZONE A full controlled by the AngloZionist Empire and, ZONE B, which includes everybody else. The vast majority of Americans are only really aware of Zone A. Why? For the following reasons:

and speaking Spanish knows that totally false this belief is, of course. But few non-Hispanic Americans ever speak in Spanish to the Hispanics in the USA (FYI – I do). Anglos generally seem to have a hard time with languages Sadly, most Americans are not educated by their parents, their religious leaders, their communities, or their schools. Most Americans get most of their education from watching TV. Since all the US TV channels offer almost the exact same mix of vulgar entertainment, propaganda and commercials, this "education" resulted in a huge amount of massively dysfunctional families and communities. This addiction to a flickering screen (be it the Idiot Tube or You Tube – same difference) gives them a very short attention span and a limited ability to process large amounts of written information, which is what is needed to be able to analyze a situation]

As a direct consequence of these factors, most Americans live in a "mental space" where Zone B simply does not exist, and when it is mentioned, it is invariable in the "same old clichés" mode.

Finally, considering all of the above, it is truly a miracle that the deplorables completely ignored a massive brainwashing campaign (waaaay worse than anything the Commies or the Nazis ever came up with!) against "Trump the New Hitler" and still voted for him twice, both in 2016 and 2020! It really goes to show that most Americans quietly but passionately hate the regime in DC and that they use every opportunity they get to at least to try to change their country and their lives by means of voting. Makes you wonder what these "disobedient" deplorables will do the next time around now that voting became clearly a waste of time, don't it?]

Now here is the good news: Zone B does exist! In fact, it is huge, rich, truly diverse and it has long figured out that both the AngloZionist Empire and even the USA as we knew them have basically died, all that's left from it is some residual momentum and many bad habits by ignorant, arrogant and delusional US politicians.

Why is that so important?

Because if we allow the Great Satan (actually a very good and exact expression, I think that it fits the new regime perfectly, I will use it more often) to convince us that reality is all contained in Zone A, we could really fall into despair. Yeah, the USA is screwed, and so is all of the EU. As for US colonies like AUS or NZ, not only are they screwed (say by siding with the USA against a much, MUCH more powerful China), they also seem to have a morbid desire to outstupid even the USA in terms of crazy laws and insane ideological positions (say on COVID, for example). But all this in ONLY true inside Zone A. Very few people in Zone B still believe that the USA matters a great deal. Most of them already know otherwise, even if this is never reported by Zone A media.

There is even more good news: neither the (rump) AngloZionist Empire nor the (rump) USA represent any credible threat to most countries in Zone B . Oh sure, US politicians can call Russia a "gas station masquerading as a country" or a "regional power", the truth is that the united West has completely failed to break, or even meaningfully hurt Russia, despite 46 sanction packages (that's just by Trump, not counting the "change we can believe in" crook). Heck, even COVID only marginally hurt Russia (which, unlike the flag-waving pseudo-patriotic crap spewed by western politicians took COVID seriously, very seriously in fact, as early as March and prepared the country for no less than two major outbreaks, both which happened, and both which Russia successfully dealt with; this is why the EU is now in full COVID-hysteria mode, while Russia does not bother to impose any lockdowns at all!).

Now let's place two US propaganda items side by side and take a look, ok?

The USA has the most powerful economy on the planet. Russia is the #1 adversary of the USA (at least according to the Dems, the GOP places China as #1 and Russia only as #2)

Do you see the problem?

If the USA is so powerful, how is it that it failed to crush Russia? What about Iran? Or, in extremis , Venezuela? Yet, even the the last case, the "best" this supposed World Hegemon did was send a few clueless ex-special ops to get caught and give case of hysterical laughter to the entire Latin American continent!

And these folks want to take on China or Russia?!

Peuhleeze!

So here is the other very good news: Zone A presents no real threat to Zone B!!!

Yes, of course, the USA can still nuke China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela or some other country. But let's look at the consequences of such a strike:

comprador regime in Bogota will not survive such a war and Colombia will also "fall". Against any other Zone B country: the US successfully nukes this/these country/countries only to find itself being treated like a pariah by the entire planet (including quite a few US colonies), including the real military powers. NATO and the EU will also collapse is that happens (the US being their cornerstone).

The bottom line is that while the US triad is still fully functional and capable of waging a full-scale nuclear war against any adversary (including Russia and, even more so, China), the truth is that all this triad really achieves is making it impossible for another nuclear power to use nukes against the USA. Which is not minor or irrelevant, the problem here being that the US nuclear triad provides with with exactly zero help when trying to deal with any adversary not using nukes (either because this adversary choose not to use nukes due to the effective deterrence of the US nuclear triad or simply because it has no nukes in the first place).

As I have mentioned in the past, the US submarine force is, along with the nuclear triad, the other truly effective and powerful force which the US can count on in case of war. However, other than launching large numbers of outdated and, therefore, easily countered cruise missiles there is little this force can do to assist a US ground (or, for that matter) air operation against anything but a very weak adversary. The problem with so-called "sub-peer" adversaries is that they have relatively few lucrative targets to strike with cruise missiles (think Venezuela here). Most of these subpeer adversaries do not have the air defenses needed to deal with any halfway determined US missile and bomb attack and the US can quickly destroy whatever air defenses such "sub-peer" countries have. So yes, I admit it. If tomorrow the USA wants a "short and triumphant war", say to boost morale or distract from internal problems, they could still attack countries like, say, Antigua and Barbuda or Santa Lucia, but such a farce will hardly would qualify as "brilliant victory" of the "best armed forces in the galaxy", now would it? Or maybe would, who knows? Ff the united propaganda machine wants to present that as a triumph for US forces, like they did with the Grenada invasion (one of the worst military operation in history!) they can do that, of course. But that would only serve to further ridicule that propaganda machine since 2021 is not 1983, there are now millions of deplorables out there who will never buy this kind of silly nonsense.

Besides, considering how the joint efforts of the USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia (the "Axis of Kindness") completely failed to deal with the Houthis, my money would not be on any US invasion force in the Caribbean (with the possible exception of a re-invasion of Haiti or the Dominican Republic, but these are already US protectorates, what would be the point?!).

Why does all that matter so much?

Because the Dems are clearly up to no good. Next, not only will we see a wave of repression against free speech internally, but the Dems are already making noises about, you guessed it, China and Russia (again!) and, when that inevitably yield exactly zero results, they will turn to "hate on" Iran and Venezuela again. But even these comparatively weaker countries are now very much capable of making Uncle Shmuel pay an immense price in blood and hell to pay in terms of political blowback on to many fronts to count.

The "power" of a nation (or a coalition of nations) can be measured using very many different type of metrics, but the three most common ones would probably be: economic power, military power and political power. If we use those three to compare Zone A to Zone B, it would be reasonable to posit the following:

people worldwide have long switched their support for Zone B countries. The recent triumph of the people of Bolivia over their oppressors is a very telling sign of this trend.

And here is the key factor to keep in mind: there is nothing, absolutely nothing, the Biden/Harris Admin can do to change these trends. It is simply too late and when the initiation of the internal collapse of the USA, these trends will only accelerate .

Yes, the bad guys did win, but only over Trump and his clueless pseudo-allies (did they betray him faster than he betrayed them, or was it the other way around?), but they only won one a battle against the deplorables and they have won exactly nothing against Zone B.

The Dems are now busy with vengeance in all its forms. They also relish in humiliating Trump and those who dared to support him. This is the political equivalent of torturing people in basements, not winning glorious battles. But they don't realize that, they are too vain, too ideologically hateful, and too cowardly to understand that.

Still, brainwashing, like torture (including mental torture!), is real. In this case, this is a battle for the minds of the deplorables who now have to be beaten down into a catatonic state of total submission and compliance. The Dems are using lies, their favorite weapon, but their assault is real, nonetheless. And this is the battle which we, those who opposed imperialism, have to fight – the battle for the minds of the people in Zone A: we need to show them that the pseudo-reality of Zone A has no real existence outside the Idiot Box and the vapid rhetoric of US decision makers.

We have to mentally prepare for a sharp increase in the amount and scope of the lies the US propaganda machine will be telling us (if you thought the last 4 years were bad, prepare for much, much worse; good example here ). And, of course, expect LOTS of false flags, especially to demonstrate the reality of the alleged danger coming from the "domestic terrorists". That will all go down against a background of a full-spectrum attack on free speech, dissent and any form of actual (as opposed to pretend) thought, really.

The irony is, of course, that the coming witch hunt (it will be way worse than Salem or McCarthy) will be waged in the name of diversity and ostensibly against "hate". In reality, of course, what the regime wants is to crush real diversity because the leaders of the US Nomenklatura absolutely hate everything besides their sorry selves. Like all ideologues, what these folks want is 1) total power and 2) total uniformity. All those rejecting these modern dogmas will be branded has criminals, terrorists, heretics, racist and, of course, Russian and Chinese agents.

And that is why this regime will also fail.

Conclusion: diversity WILL win. The REAL diversity, of course!

Our planet is wonderfully diverse, especially outside the uniformity sector of Zone A. There IS a Zone B out there, and the leaders of Zone A will be defeated by our real common and shared humanity (and their hatred for us!). Somewhere between Obama and Trump, the world has moved on, and it is now very busy dealing with the immense challenges and opportunities facing it in Zone B. And no, neither Russia nor China is busy trying to sabotage or undermine the USA – US leaders are doing that much better job of that than any Russian or Chinese ever could . So why even bother (and nevermind the risks!)?

We cannot predict what will happen next, there are simply too many variables to do that. But what we can do is predict with a great degree of confidence that the new regime in power in DC will do no better than all the other regimes which came to power by means of color revolutions in the past couple of decades. There is no hope left for the Empire, as for the USA, there will be plenty of hope left for them, but only after a long and painful process of collapse and rebirth (both of which are inevitable by now). The truth is that US is not that unique as empires go, sorry, it is just your typical arrogant and narcissistic empire which will collapse just as all the other arrogant and narcissistic empires in history have collapsed, mostly under their own obscene weight . And those poor souls who sincerely believe that China (or Russia) want to replace the USA simply don't understand that these two countries already have been empires, it was a disaster, thank you very much, and they have no desire to repeat their past mistakes. This desire for non-exceptionalism and normalcy will, with time, also become the object of a large social consensus in the USA. And, with time, the USA will finally be welcomed into a truly free Zone B or, should I say, a Zone-free world.

[Jan 20, 2021] How neoliberal Dems deceived Georgia voters promising them 2000 dollars with no intention to deliver

Trump would probably won if he managed to give people 2K checks. But Trump cares about "deplorable" even less the neoliberal Dems.
Jan 20, 2021 | www.youtube.com


SupraMedical68
, 10 hours ago

Neo-liberals would never lie to the people. 🙄

Michael James , 10 hours ago

FYI, they don't care about you. They will do whatever they want, whenever they want and there is nothing you can do about it. Enjoy your scraps

J OTowner , 10 hours ago

He hasn't even been inaugurated and I'm already sick to death of hearing about creepy, corrupt "Uncle Joe".

Danny Martinez , 8 hours ago

It's weird that these people are such bad negotiators that they diminish their negotiating posture BEFORE negotiating. Why not demand the full $2000 and have the republicans be the obstacle to it? It's so stupid and makes no sense


Robert E
, 10 hours ago

Its Biden you took his word and conveyed it to people. He is a career liar you just spouted his words. Your no liar sir but you are naive for believing in Biden and telling others they could too.

[Jan 19, 2021] Michigan Forensic Report on Dominion Voting READ IN FULL - Liberty Nation

Jan 19, 2021 | www.libertynation.com
  1. The Antrim County Clerk and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson have stated that the election night error (detailed above by the vote "flip" from Trump to Biden, was the result of human error caused by the failure to update the Mancelona Township tabulator prior to election night for a down ballot race. We disagree and conclude that the vote flip occurred because of machine error built into the voting software designed to create error.
  2. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's statement on November 6, 2020 that "[t]the correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals tape .. . ." was false.
  3. The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity.
  4. The results of the Antrim County 2020 election are not certifiable. This is a result of machine and/or software error, not human error.
  5. The tabulation log for the forensic examination of the server for Antrim County from December 6, 2020consists of 15,676 individual events, of which 10,667 or 68.05% of the events were recorded errors. These errors resulted in overall tabulation errors or ballots being sent to adjudication. This high error rates proves the Dominion Voting System is flawed and does not meet state or federal election laws.
  6. These errors occurred after The Antrim County Clerk provided a re-provisioned CF card with uploaded software for the Central Lake Precinct on November 6, 2020. This means the statement by Secretary Benson was false. The Dominion Voting System produced systemic errors and high error rates both prior to the update and after the update; meaning the update (or lack of update) is not the cause of errors.
  7. In Central Lake Township there were 1,222 ballots reversed out of 1,491 total ballots cast, resulting in an 81.96% rejection rate. All reversed ballots are sent to adjudication for a decision by election personnel.
  8. It is critical to understand that the Dominion system classifies ballots into two categories, 1) normal ballots and 2) adjudicated ballots. Ballots sent to adjudication can be altered by administrators, and adjudication files can be moved between different Results Tally and Reporting (RTR) terminals with no audit trail of which administrator actually adjudicates (i.e. votes) the ballot batch. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity because it provides no meaningful observation of the adjudication process or audit trail of which administrator actually adjudicated the ballots.
  9. A staggering number of votes required adjudication. This was a 2020 issue not seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency or audit trail. Our examination of the server logs indicates that this high error rate was incongruent with patterns from previous years. The statement attributing these issues to human error is not consistent with the forensic evaluation, which points more correctly to systemic machine and/or software errors. The systemic errors are intentionally designed to create errors in order to push a high volume of ballots to bulk adjudication.
  10. The linked video demonstrates how to cheat at adjudication: https://mobile.twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1336888454538428418
  11. Antrim County failed to properly update its system. A purposeful lack of providing basic computer security updates in the system software and hardware demonstrates incompetence, gross negligence, bad faith, and/or willful non- compliance in providing the fundamental system security required by federal and state law. There is no way this election management system could have passed tests or have been legally certified to conduct the 2020 elections in Michigan under the current laws. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures - Michigan requires full compliance with federal standards as determined by a federally accredited voting system laboratory.
  12. Significantly, the computer system shows vote adjudication logs for prior years; but all adjudication log entries for the 2020 election cycle are missing. The adjudication process is the simplest way to manually manipulate votes. The lack of records prevents any form of audit accountability, and their conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software. Removal of these files violates state law and prevents a meaningful audit, even if the Secretary wanted to conduct an audit. We must conclude that the 2020 election cycle records have been manually removed.
  13. Likewise, all server security logs prior to 11:03 pm on November 4, 2020 are missing. This means that all security logs for the day after the election, on election day, and prior to election day are gone. Security logs are very important to an audit trail, forensics, and for detecting advanced persistent threats and outside attacks, especially on systems with outdated system files. These logs would contain domain controls, authentication failures, error codes, times users logged on and off, network connections to file servers between file accesses, internet connections, times, and data transfers. Other server logs before November 4, 2020 are present; therefore, there is no reasonable explanation for the security logs to be missing.
  14. On November 21, 2020, an unauthorized user unsuccessfully attempted to zero out election results. This demonstrates additional tampering with data.
  15. The Election Event Designer Log shows that Dominion ImageCast Precinct Cards were programmed with new ballot programming on 10/23/2020 and then again after the election on 11/05/2020. These system changes affect how ballots are read and tabulated, and our examination demonstrated a significant change in voter results using the two different programs. In accordance with the Help America Vote Act, this violates the 90-day Safe Harbor Period which prohibits changes to election systems, registries, hardware/software updates without undergoing re-certification. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures - Michigan requires full compliance with federal standards as determined by a federally accredited voting system laboratory.
  16. The only reason to change software after the election would be to obfuscate evidence of fraud and/or to correct program errors that would de-certify the election. Our findings show that the Central Lake Township tabulator tape totals were significantly altered by utilizing two different program versions (10/23/2020 and 11/05/2020), both of which were software changes during an election which violates election law, and not just human error associated with the Dominion Election Management System. This is clear evidence of software generated movement of votes. The claims made on the Office of the Secretary of State website are false.
  17. The Dominion ImageCast Precinct (ICP) machines have the ability to be connected to the internet (see Image 11). By connecting a network scanner to the ethernet port on the ICP machine and creating Packet Capture logs from the machines we examined show the ability to connect to the network, Application Programming Interface (API) (a data exchange between two different systems) calls and web (http) connections to the Election Management System server. Best practice is to disable the network interface card to avoid connection to the internet. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity. Because certain files have been deleted, we have not yet found origin or destination; but our research continues.
  18. Because the intentional high error rate generates large numbers of ballots to be adjudicated by election personnel, we must deduce that bulk adjudication occurred. However, because files and adjudication logs are missing, we have not yet determined where the bulk adjudication occurred or who was responsible for it. Our research continues.
  19. Research is ongoing. However, based on the preliminary results, we conclude that the errors are so significant that they call into question the integrity and legitimacy of the results in the Antrim County 2020 election to the point that the results are not certifiable. Because the same machines and software are used in 48 other counties in Michigan, this casts doubt on the integrity of the entire election in the state of Michigan.

[Jan 17, 2021] America 2.0- After the election by Dmitry Medvedev

It is interesting that former Russian President highlighted criminal behaviour of US Internet monopolies, who became political players.
Jan 17, 2021 | www.rt.com

... the US citizens themselves have called into question their country's conformity with the main criterion of democracy – the ability of the state to ensure fair and transparent expression of the people's will in general.

This is an urgent issue the United States has to deal with. The nation is divided, the fault line running between people of different value orientations, which reflect on the electoral choice between Republicans and Democrats. There is a clear "value divide" between conservative Americans and those who promote change in traditionalist attitudes, between "law-abiding" Americans and those who support active street protest, between those employed in high-tech industry and those left out of the technological revolution. Besides, the election race laid bare the tensions between the federal government and state and local governments. Accusations against the federal government of exceeding its authority in using force to suppress riots have exposed cracks in American federalism, which the central government (regardless of party affiliation) prefers to conceal as far as possible.

There have also been large-scale violations of the election law. The United States still has no standard procedures for voter registration, voter identification, ballot issuance and submission. According to the nonprofit organization Judicial Watch, by September 2020, 29 out of 37 states had 1.8 million more registered voters than actual eligible voting-age citizens. This is largely due to the fact that there is no such concept as a domestic passport or some kind of residence registration in the US, so when shifting their place of residence, people often fail to remove themselves from the voter list. In addition, there were occasions of people who had long since died having voted for one of the candidates. However, courts found no evidence that such cases had been widespread – they were often down to the fact that other family members have similar names, which led to errors in the voter records. Statistics show that there were 153 million registered voters in the US in 2018, with more than 20 million entries in the voter rolls being out of date. According to the California Globe, an NGO, there were nearly half a million such entries in California alone in 2020. In this context, a large-scale campaign was launched urging voters to update their data in the voter lists.

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The most acute situation arose as a result of the mass postal voting, which brought Joe Biden a reported majority during the counting of ballots. It is not even that Democrats created a controversial opportunity to gain votes from a passive part of their electorate, using the pandemic as an excuse. They encouraged a more active use of the mail-in voting procedure, which had been widely used only in some states during previous campaigns. According to Donald Trump, this paved the way to uncontrolled machinations.

Thus, on the eve of voting day, the Democratic Party allegedly attempted to change the procedure for counting postal ballots in the states of Wisconsin, Indiana, North Carolina, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa and Alabama in order to considerably lengthen the period of their acceptance. This made it possible to relax the monitoring requirements for vote-counting. Consequently, once the voting was over, the Republicans almost immediately announced that they were filing lawsuits in connection with violations registered in 40 states.

Lawyers representing the Republicans found it unsound that so many states had continued to count the votes for several days after voting day. They had some serious questions as to the legitimacy of accepting the late ballots. Nevertheless, courts rejected most of the filed lawsuits even in Republican states.

All of this is hardly consistent with those norms of democracy that Washington arrogantly imposes on other countries. For instance, US officials in the OSCE constantly point to the need for the OSCE participating states to comply with the recommendations by the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) drawn up based on the results of its election observation activities. In the meantime, the US itself fails to act on the relevant recommendations, blatantly violating the provisions of para. 8 of the 1990 Document of the Copenhagen Meeting of the Conference on the Human Dimension of the CSCE and para. 25 of the 1999 Charter for European Security stipulating the obligation to invite observers for monitoring national elections.

Since 2002, the ODIHR election observation missions in the US have recommended in their final reports that international observers be provided with access to all states at the federal level. However, that is not what we see in reality. Besides, the archaic US electoral system is such that the US federal government has no powers to establish procedures even for federal elections as this is the prerogative of the states. Just as when America was a farmers' republic with a population of 3.5 million, the president is still elected by the states, which inform the Congress of their decisions through the electoral college.

During the popular vote in 2016, the ODIHR did not have access to polling stations in 17 states. The international observers, who showed legitimate interest in the elections on the voting day, faced threats of arrest and indictment. In the 2020 popular vote, the number of "inhospitable" states reached 18. Only five states and the District of Columbia have legal provisions in place ensuring international election observation. In all other states, it remains at the discretion of the local authorities and is quite unpopular.

The lengthy disputes over the election results in courts (and, at the end of the day, electing a new president there) is yet another fact demonstrating how inefficient and outdated this voting system is. In the 2000 campaign, the votes cast for George W. Bush and his Democratic opponent, Al Gore, in Florida were recounted multiple times. It was the Supreme Court that had the last word, ruling that the vote recounting should stop, which meant the victory of George W. Bush – even though many Americans still doubt the validity of that decision. But at the time, such a timely consensus between the Republicans and the Democrats was exactly what was needed to quickly stabilize the situation.

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The enormous costs associated with such a voting system have by now practically erased the word "consensus" from the vocabulary of the American political elite. Just recently, no one could imagine – not even in their worst nightmares – that all these partisan differences would lead to the storming of the Capitol, whose first foundation stone was laid by the first US president, George Washington. The attack carried out by pro-Trump protesters while the Congress was counting votes not only appalled national governments all over the world but provoked bloodshed in the country, which was only recently seen by many as the gold standard of democracy. It was hard to believe that the events resembling so much Ukraine's Maidan and other color revolutions that unfolded in recent years across a wide range of countries, including those in the post-Soviet space, were broadcasted live from the United States all over the world.

The techniques previously used by Washington for democratization of other countries backfired. The cold civil war that had been raging in the US for a few months reached its climax. And while the world is condemning the attack on the Capitol, anxiously waiting for what is to come next, it is as yet unclear how the Republicans and the Democrats are supposed to find common ground. The social polarization keeps growing. The long-forgotten spirit of McCarthyism is again felt in the air. And there is no one who could answer the question: are there a person and a timeless value that could unite the nation. The situation that has been brought about by a chain of events predetermined by the archaic voting system can lead to new waves of violence and unrest. On the other hand, the American political system has proved its flexibility over the course of centuries. I am sure this time it will cope, too.

There is one more critical issue which, in the context of the outdated American electoral system, has moved extremely high up the agenda. I am talking about the unprecedented role in public politics of social networks and new media, and, accordingly, of private IT companies that own those platforms. Conventional American media, whose activities are regulated by laws and fall within the First Amendment, have traditionally – and always officially – taken the side of a certain candidate and yet deemed it necessary to give coverage to statements made by the opponent during election and post-election campaigns. The social media, however, are beyond any special regulations and work on the basis of user agreements. And it was them that unleashed the media war without rules! And that war is waged against one single person.

During the vote counting, Trump's posts on Twitter, where he has over 85 million followers, were flagged as potentially misleading and later even hidden. The events in the Capitol resulted in the unprecedented and permanent suspension of Trump's accounts on all social media – where he has a total of about 200 million followers. Noteworthy is that the tone of the posts that provoked the suspension of Trump's accounts was not much different from his narrative of the preceding weeks. Next, they blocked tens of thousands of supporters of the incumbent president across all kinds of platforms which used to be viewed as forums for a full-fledged discussion.

For America, just as for the rest of the world, this level of corporate censorship is a truly extraordinary phenomenon. A question arises: who are those supreme judges that decided that they, of their own volition and based on their own rules – but, in fact, guided by their political preferences, can deprive the country's president of the opportunity to communicate with an audience of many millions? Whether Trump is good or bad, he is his country's national, and, furthermore, an official who enjoys the trust of nearly half of Americans. Thus, it turns out that several technological corporations located in California got an appetite for power and thought it possible to juggle with news and facts to suit their own political preferences. This is but a blatant censorship!

Dictating their own terms, they have sought to substitute for state institutions, encroaching on their mandates, aggressively imposing their views on a great number of people, leaving them no other choice; while the 75 million of Trump's voters and hundreds of millions of his subscribers were left out of their "choice." These were simply labeled as insecure. Isn't it, indeed, a spectre of cyber totalitarianism that is gradually overwhelming society, taking away from it (and potentially the entire world) the opportunity to see the reality for what it is? But even if Donald Trump leaves politics for good and the tech giants wipe out his digital footprint, the minds will remain hugely polarized. This is yet another problem stemming from the US's outdated voting system, and it will push governments of different countries into action to prevent the same scenario in their own states.

Given the special place of the US in the architecture of international relations, all this makes us try and guess the impact of the elections on the "classical" world politics as well as economy. It is crystal clear that the elections influence direct trends in global development. Everything else, with certain reservations, can be regarded as an internal affair of the US itself. Yet outward effects are our common issue. Let me remind you that George W. Bush's victory back in 2000 caused significant, though short-term, volatility on stock markets. It is equally possible after the current shock, which of course provides considerable grounds for concern. But the long-term stability of the US dollar will be largely determined by the resilience of institutions for the protection of property rights, the demand for American goods and services in the global market, as well as the predictability and independence of the Federal Reserve System (FRS), which underpins the confidence in the US dollar. US dollar volatility will abruptly increase only if US manufacturers lose a considerable share of the world market or investors doubt the existing safeguards for the protection of assets, the relevance and soundness of the FRS's long-term policy. Since this is impossible in the near future, it seems of much more interest to us what Joe Biden's economic policy will look like. And this is often shaped based on the thesis "just not the way Trump would have it." It's some sort of a tradition: the same way, the 45th president without hesitation reversed the 44th President Barack Obama's directives on all tracks.

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It is obvious that the development of a national legal and political system is the sovereign choice of a state itself, though many countries (and first of all the US) are seeking to impose their model of development on the world as the most effective. Certainly, there is no legal and political system that can be called the monument of "classical" democracy. It is constantly developing and improving. The question is, how relevant and timely the models that are offered as a replacement for those that have lost their progressive potential are. And here what we need is a combination of sound conservatism and well-timed new laws. Both artificial preservation of and constant experimentation with political and legal realities pose a danger. The post-Soviet nations have the examples of both, state regimes sometimes transiting from the presidential system to parliamentary and back once every two or three years.

Governments in many countries are posing questions about the policy continuity of such an important actor in world affairs as the US. The 2016 elections shattered the century-long tradition of continuity of the administrations, particularly in foreign policy issues. This time, again, the US' stance on a range of key issues depends on the election results. Where shall we witness a reverse in policy, a getting-around to approaches adopted by Barack Obama and his predecessors' administrations? Let us take a look at the critical issue of fighting against the coronavirus. The 2020 candidates' opposing viewpoints regarding the danger of Covid-19 will lead to an expanded scope and increased stringency of pandemic-related measures implemented in the US as one of the main short-term effects of the election outcomes. This will influence the lives and health of Americans as well as the well-being of citizens in neighboring countries and the US' allies. The polarization among citizens themselves, when you could tell with great certainty by the presence or absence of a mask which party the voter has voted for, was grotesque indeed.

The two candidates have adopted very different approaches when addressing relevant economic issues inside the country, which have a direct influence on the entire world. One should note, among many other things, that Donald Trump repeatedly commented on the FRS' activities that lay outside the mandate of the head of state. This caused a certain dollar skepticism in view of a possible loss by the FRS of its actual independence of the executive power, which triggered a discussion on the excessive dependence of trade on the US dollar even among the US' allies in the EU. The reaction of American markets and the actual recognition by Donald Trump of his defeat was clearly reflected, for example, in the S&P 500. November 2020 turned out the best November for the main US stock market index. And for the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the month was the best since 1987. The indices were undoubtedly influenced by the positive news about vaccines against Covid-19, but the growth began immediately after the election results were announced.

Support for international organizations (WHO, WTO, and others) turned into a bargaining chip in the presidential election results issue. For decades, the US has increased its weight in these organizations. And until recently, the attitude toward them has not depended on a certain administration in the White House. These elections will inevitably lead to the restoration of the US' full membership and the development of cooperation within international organizations such as the WHO and the WTO. The outgoing administration has been notorious for its abrupt and hardly predictable demarches regarding its participation in such associations, which certainly destabilized their work. Yet the US's financial support is crucial and very significant for them.

Even more important is the US' participation in international arms agreements, such as the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF), the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START III) and the Treaty on Open Skies (OST), as well as in different integration alliances, climate accords and many others. As in the case of international organizations, the US is trying to restore to a certain extent its image as a reliable strategic partner. Election pledges to extend the START III treaty with Russia which Biden called "an anchor of strategic stability between the United States and Russia," sound very optimistic. The president-elect is an advocate of arms reduction and has been involved in drafting the INF Treaty since the Soviet era. One of the election campaign themes was that the US should not withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty, the World Health Organization and the Paris Climate Agreement – processes that have been set in motion in recent years.

By the way, the withdrawal of the US from the Paris Agreement and its expected new accession to it is one of the clearest and most recent examples of political turmoil. There is now a tectonic change in the very basis of economic activity. A new economic order is taking shape. States and individual companies are reshaping their models to be carbon neutral, carrying out rigorous assessment of their business chains starting from suppliers in some countries to consumers in others. Global investors are rethinking their strategies. International organizations are shaping new reporting standards that will obviously apply globally. Finally, most recently the UN Secretary General called on all nations to rethink their tax strategies by cutting taxes on income while raising taxes on carbon. All of these factors are of global importance. And the US position, or rather its floundering, can obviously create new global imbalances. Although everyone will adapt to them after a while, because, as T. Dreiser wrote, "you have to take things as they are and use them to your best advantage."

Building relations with their allies, especially in NATO, is another basic factor that directly influences the trajectory of international development. The Biden administration which is largely made up of the key figures from the Obama administration has already assured its European partners that full cooperation within the North Atlantic Alliance will be restored. The US is expected to drop its claims about the disproportionately small contribution of Europeans to NATO funding and the imbalance in military budgets, which have been repeatedly voiced by the Trump administration. Time will show to what extent the trust of the US European allies will be regained. But it is clear that the US foreign policy somersaults over a relatively short period of time will not go unnoticed.

Even on the issue of interaction with China the candidates have managed to take generally opposing positions. Although both share the opinion that China is America's main competitor. As part of the election campaign, Biden's rhetoric toward China was significantly more peaceful in comparison to Trump's promises and actions. However, trade restrictions imposed by the Trump administration may remain in place in the new circumstances if the situation requires so. The experience of the Jackson-Vanik amendment and other sanctions laws shows that such restrictions can persist for a long time, even after the reason for their imposition has disappeared.

We expect it is highly likely that the United States will consistently pursue an anti-Russian policy. In recent years, the trajectory of relations between Washington and Moscow has been steadily going downhill, no matter who was at the helm in the White House. There was indeed some hope of reversing the negative dynamics during the Trump presidency. After all, back in 2016, it seemed that relations between the two countries could not be any worse than those under B. Obama. However, the following years have dispelled this illusion. The Trump administration consistently strengthened the systemic confrontation between Washington and Moscow, continued its sanctions policy against our country wishing, inter alia, to force it out of the energy markets, and reduced our diplomatic contacts to a minimum. And this was done against the background of D. Trump constantly speaking about the desire to "get along with Russia." His words did not matter much, however, as numerous restrictive measures in Congress were supported by both Democrats and Republicans.

Biden has not yet said anything positive about Russia. On the contrary, his rhetoric has always been openly unfriendly, harsh, even aggressive. He has repeatedly stated that "Russia is the biggest threat to the United States in terms of undermining our security and alliances." Nothing more, nothing less. Moreover, the Democrats' team includes politicians who hold similar views and have no interest whatsoever in improving relations between Moscow and Washington.

Russia, on the contrary, is ready to work with any US president, ready to restore cooperation in a wide range of areas. However, we can hardly expect any reciprocal steps from the new American administration. Our relations are likely to remain extremely cold in the coming years. And right now we do not expect anything but the continuation of a tough anti-Russian policy. But perhaps Biden will revisit the issues still on our joint agenda, for example arms control.

I have listed only a few areas which will obviously be among those deserving special attention. Most importantly: the unpredictability of further US actions in the international arena, a kind of toxicity of this country even for its allies and partners is a result of serious social upheavals that American society faces. This internal and external instability is largely due to a clumsy, hopelessly outdated voting system that has seen no major changes since the 18th century up to the present. And the last election turned out to be not a political competition of ideas that the US had always prided itself on, but rather a confrontation between two campaigns of hatred.

We do not want the US to have problems. And for practical reasons: such problems create waves of instability all around that overflow us as well. The problems of the United States can only be solved by the Americans themselves along with the good governance of the country. One of the founding fathers of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, rightly noted that "the whole art of government consists in the art of being honest." Any election is the most important test of such honesty. Of course, only Americans themselves can decide whether to put aside their national selfishness and launch the voting system reform, and, consequently, the reform of political life, or not. So far, there has been no real move toward this. Nor even the slightest hint of a desire to change anything. And the international community is already paying too high a price for the US' reluctance to change.

Dmitry Medvedev served as Russia's president from 2008 to 2012 and prime minister from 2012 to 2020. He has been deputy chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation since January 2020.


apothqowejh 8 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 09:04 AM

An interesting underlying premise of the article is that government is actually about enacting policy. It appears to me, living in the cheap seats, that the purpose of government, while ostensibly about policy, is really to rob its subjects blind while concealing the theft and crushing dissent.
jake234 15 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:31 AM
The former president of Russia is able to write an essay. Whether you agree with him or not, the sentences in this article have weight; and you have to mull what he says over in your mind. Compare this with the soundbites of US presidents.
Observatory jake234 6 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 11:10 AM
President Medvedev has been and apparently somehow remains an idealist/naive man as confirmed by the essay above. Just a babe in the woods of politics.
TheFishh jake234 9 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 08:01 AM
The rhetoric of US presidents has deg
Ligov 10 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 07:23 AM
Given that America is the most influential state in the world, that is, it practically influences everything that happens in the world, then obviously everyone around the world is not indifferent to what is happening in America, especially in its dominant group, the aspen's nest. And what happens there, as all honest people in the world, including the Americans, guess, are clearly dubious things. To stir up this hornet's nest is a noble cause. And the success of this business will determine the well-being of the whole world. May honest Americans striving to clean up their homes feel the support of the world.
Hassam275 16 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 01:32 AM
Its been said that American elected officials are like passengers on a train who come and go, yet the conductor is the non elected establishment politicians loyal to foreign agendas who are extensions of special interest lobbies. That is why policy never changes, though the illusion of democracy is maintained. Now that a large number of citizens caught on to this scheme, the propaganda arm of the establishment, the media, attempts to brand these citizens racists or traitors in an attempt to use fear and shame as thought control. This only makes the masses more enraged and the unfortunate ones are the law enforcement officers who are stuck protecting the establishment. Also unfortunate are the politicians who actually care about their constituents whose lives are also endangered. So violence isnt the way out. The deep state must be exposed.
MotorSlug conformista 5 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 12:10 PM
the US has never been a democracy, that's the last thing the rich, white, land and slave-owning framers wanted. they were scared to death of equality and human rights. France and Russia today have a better grasp on reality than you do
costelmagik 15 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:14 AM
America 2.0, after election and before it is just suggest the fast approaching the end of the Empire ,a lot worse then before the election considering the division between Americans , the fraud through the election and the economic and financial collapse which in his last legs.
Jonathan E 9 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 07:41 AM
The American population has an 'uphill battle' to acquire a functional democracy because they are under the 'heel' of a powerful Plutocracy which has firm control of a powerful Media.
GottaBeMe 6 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 11:19 AM
"According to the nonprofit organization Judicial Watch, by September 2020, 29 out of 37 states had 1.8 million more registered voters than actual eligible voting-age citizens." US democracy is a sham.
MiloDiddlbomb Andy0 2 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:52 PM
Actually I lived just outside NYC during 9/11 I had to go to NYC the week after and what struck me was the absolute silence. NYC is normally crazy noisy but for a couple months you didn't even hear a car horn. The actual divide openly happened when Trump looked like he actually had a shot at winning. And in my opinion it wasn't Trump himself but the fact that an outsider might get let in. Then the political machine started to create this insanity we now have. In a way you are right. What Trump brought into the sunlight was the hate middle America had for 20+ years of war. The people on the coast as a rule have nothing to do with the military since the draft ended - The majority of military people have been coming from Middle America. Plus the fact that any of the wars could have been easily won - except where the future in that? More money is made just dragging them out in stalemate. A lesson learned in Vietnam where it became obvious the money was in keeping the conflict going. Generals don't care. Most have never seen one day of combat.
Ibmekon 13 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 04:11 AM
"We do not want the US to have problems." Oh yes we bloody well do ! They will not dismantle their empire witout the collapse of the dollar. Even today the gravy boat of Democrats are fighting to keep thousands of their army of occupation in Afghanistan - against the wishes of their own electorate and President.
Bjarne Örn Hansen 17 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 12:33 AM
First of all, americans aren't too smart. That the US had a backup system to put a finger on the election scale, should have been obvious to anyone with an iq above 0. No power, let's the mob decide it's future. It will always have an ace up its sleeve ... but using this system, should be done in emergency only and should one time deal, done at the peril of the politicians using it. What americans do from here, should be restore the union and remove all politicians and parties that were involved ...
9/11 Truther Bjarne Örn Hansen 15 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:32 AM
The majority of American schools, colleges, and mainstream media are specifically designed to result in people who "aren't too smart". The " thumb on the election scale" is phase #2.
Gio Con 1 hour ago 16 Jan, 2021 04:36 PM
So basically, the US needs to update its method of screwing the people.

[Jan 17, 2021] 'A grave error'- Dominion gets victory as American Thinker offers up retraction apology for election reporting

Sites and people who posted Hugo Chavez nonsense should pay the price. Which is good.
Also capabilities to produce weighted votes does not mean that it was deployed. But if it is present it serve as a Damocles sword over the integtiry of election, as you never can be sure whther is was somehow activated or not. And so far there is no convincing facts that it was deployed. Looks like most common method was staffing of mail-in ballots by corrupt staff.
But Dominion tabulators do create concentration of ballots in one place, which automatically, completely by the fact of creating the "critical mass" of ballots in one place facilitates larger scale fraud . From this point of view they can be regarded as catalysts. That' is undisputable.
The way sysadmin roles were assigned by Dominion, how such activity is controlled, and what people are selected is open to review as those people automatically become powerful players in the election process and are outside usual safeguards, which were developed for traditional systems. In no way they can be controlled by election observers. That's the fact.
In case the machines were internet connected all Dominion employees with access to them also become election players. As well as all interested intelligence agencies.
Jan 15, 2021 | www.rt.com
Conservative blog American Thinker has issued an apology in response to Dominion Voting Systems' lawyers accusing them and others of defamation for pushing claims their technology helped rig the presidential election.

In a Friday statement written by editor and publisher Thomas Lifson, American Thinker admitted their stories on conspiracy theories surrounding Dominion machines being rigged in Joe Biden's favor were based on "discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories about Dominion's supposed ties to Venezuela, fraud on Dominion's machines that resulted in massive vote switching or weighted votes, and other claims falsely stating that there is credible evidence that Dominion acted fraudulently."

Lifson called the statements "completely false" and added that "Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately."

The company went on to apologize for any "harm" their stories caused the company and their employees.

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"We also apologize to our readers for abandoning 9 journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion's track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error," they added.

The apology also names Andrea Widburg, R.D. Wedge, Brian Tomlinson, and Peggy Ryan as specific contributors who have covered conspiracy theories surrounding Dominion.

On the same day as the apology, the conservative blog also shut down its comment section, but provided no solid reason as to why.

Pieces published by American Thinker presented theories that the machines deleted pro-Trump votes and that it was tied to outside foreign and political groups, common theories that have been pushed by President Trump, his legal team, and supporters.

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Dominion has taken more aggressive action recently against accusations against them, even suing Trump lawyer Sidney Powell for defamation to the tune of $1.3 billion.

The company's legal team has also targeted other right-wing media, warning Fox News recently that action is "imminent" in response to numerous statements made on the network by anchors and guests like Trump counsel Rudy Giuliani. They also sent letters to individual anchors for Fox and Newsmax demanding they "cease and desist" making defamatory statements about the company and its alleged role in rigging the presidential election, an act they say has no proof to back it up.

In response to the threatened litigation, Fox News aired a segment multiple times shooting down voter fraud claims linked to Dominion.

Newsmax, meanwhile, released a statement clarifying many conspiracy theories linked to Dominion and Smartmatic, another vote counting system threatening legal action.

[Jan 17, 2021] DOJ hasn't seen evidence of 'systemic' election fraud, says AG Barr because it hasn't been looking, Trump lawyers reply

How one defines systemic fraud? Actually the role on Internet giants in 2020 election represent systemic fraud. Also is not "simple fraud" not enough for DOJ to take a look. Or "simple, one time fraud" now is welcomed by DOJ?
Main-in ballot fraud looks systemic to me with documented well coordinated efforts to weaken protections on the part of DNC lawyers.
The situation with the observers suppression is a real scandal painting the USA as a banana republic.
Dec 01, 2020 | www.rt.com
US Attorney General Bill Barr told AP that the Department of Justice has not seen evidence of fraud on a scale that could change the outcome of the election, but President Donald Trump's attorneys claims it never even looked.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," the agency quoted Barr as saying on Tuesday. He said both federal prosecutors and the FBI have been looking into specific complaints but found nothing that would change the media consensus that Democrat Joe Biden defeated Trump earlier this month.

Trump's lawyers, led by Rudy Giuliani, have launched a series of legal challenges in places like Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia, challenging large amounts of mail-in ballots they say weren't properly verified. They've also claimed votes were cast by dead people, observers weren't allowed to observe the counts, and other irregularities.

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Barr said there was only one claim of systemic fraud – that voting machines were programmed to shift millions of votes – "and the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven't seen anything to substantiate that." While he did not name any names, this was a claim made by Sidney Powell, an attorney not directly affiliated with the president's legal team, in her lawsuit in Georgia.

"With all due respect to the attorney general, there hasn't been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation," Giuliani responded on Tuesday, accusing the DOJ of not interviewing any of their sworn witnesses and refusing to audit voting machines or subpoena officials.

Barr did tell AP that most of the complaints about the election ought to be handled by state and local officials conducting audits, rather than making a federal case out of everything.

"There's a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and people don't like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and 'investigate,'" he said.

Within days of the election, Barr had authorized the DOJ to follow up on "substantial allegations" of irregularities with the vote, arguing it was "imperative that the American people can trust that our elections were conducted in such a way that the outcomes accurately reflect the will of the voters."

Democrats, US mainstream media and social media platforms have been united in insisting there had been no "widespread" voter or election fraud, labeling all of Trump's claims to the contrary as "baseless" or "disputed."

[Jan 17, 2021] "79% of Americans think the US is falling apart" those not accounted for are possibly homeless or illiterate and don't have the opportunity of putting their view forward

Highly recommended!
In the reality the USA is not falling apart. It is neoliberalism that is falling apart and this is just how common people feel during the collapse of neliberalism.
Jan 17, 2021 | www.rt.com

OneHorseGuy 1 day ago 15 Jan, 2021 02:17 PM

"79% of Americans think the US is falling apart" those not accounted for are possibly homeless or illiterate and don't have the opportunity of putting their view forward.
RTaccount 1 day ago 15 Jan, 2021 02:22 PM
There will be no peace, no unity, and no prosperity. And there shouldn't be.
TheFishh RTaccount 1 day ago 15 Jan, 2021 03:38 PM
The US regimes past and present have worn out their bag of tricks. A magician is a con-man. And the only way they can entertain and spellbind the crowd with their routines is if everyone just ignores the sleight of hand. But people are starting to call the US out for the tricks it is pulling, and that's where the magician's career ends.
SJMan333 23 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 01:02 AM
America as a whole is now reaping the fruits of its decades of exceptionalism complex. Through its propaganda machine, Americans as individuals and collectively as a society, have been brainwashed into believing that laws, rules and basic human decency do not apply to themselves. These are only sweetened poisons for them to shove down the throats of other lesser countries, especially those in Africa, Latin America, Middle East and Asia ((bluntly put, non-white countries)) when it suited America's global resource thievery and daylight wealth grabbing. Habitualized into bullying every other countries with no resistance, Americans are now showing their ugly faces on each other. The same exceptionalism delusion "the laws apply to you, not me'' is driving every American (except the colored Americans probably) to blame all the ills of the country on everyone else except himself. Nancy Pelosi advocated total lock-down but treated herself to a total grooming in a hair saloon is just one example. For the sins it has committed over the decades, I guess the time is right for USA to have a dose of its own medicine. Except in this case, America never thought it necessary to develop an antidote.

[Jan 15, 2021] Dominion machines depend of the level trustworthiness of their administrators. In hands of evil/corrupt administrators they automatically become a catalyst of election fraud

Jan 15, 2021 | www.unz.com

sayless , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:21 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago

"I don't know or care anything about Dominion voting machines"

Why not? Take a look at Patrick Byrne's summary of evidence for massive election fraud involving the Dominion machines, on his blog over at DeepCapture.

It will explain how a man who sheltered in his house, did not campaign, drew no more than six or seven or twenty-five people to his events, got seven million more votes than a man who drew up to thirty thousand people at his rallies.

...An expert witness in Georgia was able to hack into Dominion in front of the legislative committee in less than a minute. "We're in." In Dominion, and on the internet.

Dominion machines can do anything! They can assign a weight of 1.5 per single vote to one candidate, and .75 per vote to the other, and can adjust as necessary. They can assign batches of "adjudicated" ballots to the candidate of your choice. They can just switch votes from one candidate to the other in increments of several thousand, let's subtract 29,000 votes from candidate a and add them to b's column. They can allow access by a third party to the administrator's identity and password so the third party can enter and participate directly in tabulation of the votes.

And more. If your disfavored candidate is winning by a landslide and your 1.5/.75 ratio isn't working, you can put in a USB card and adjust accordingly.

If you're desperate you can upload tens of thousands of votes in a single drop which all, every one, go to your preferred candidate. And you can do it in one hour on a machine which can only handle a few thousand votes per hour, fed in manually.

[Jan 15, 2021] All pure d j vu this is exactly how the color revolutions work it is the art of winning elections by fraudulent means. The US bombers arrive only if the peaceful transition of power (aka the stealing of election) fails

For anybody who listened to state hearings in one or more state if is clear that there was widespread fraud. And its importance is much larger then the question who won the elections
Notable quotes:
"... Multiple methods of attack on the election outcome have been prepared, all methods well planned, tried and perfected in the string of color revolutions around the World. Because those attacking Trump are the same as those who have been doing the "regime changes" in the vulnerable countries over the past 30 years. ..."
"... The playbook/manual is fully symmetrical – it always addresses both possible outcomes – if their side does not manage to steal the election then they incite an insurrection and oust the winner (the Viktor Yanukovych outcome). ..."
"... It is funny how few people appear to understand that Hunter's laptop was not just a suppressed election decider then an important reason for Biden's suitability – the insurance of ensurance, the media ready Kompromat. ..."
"... Finally, it is very important to keep in mind that none of what transpired would have been possible in a healthy country ..."
"... Maybe it was hostility towards Trump's supporters rather than hostility towards Trump. Trump is a reliable pro-immigration ultra-Zionist rabidly pro-LGBT liberal. The views of a large proportion of Trump's supporters are diametrically opposed to Trump's own views, but his supporters aren't smart enough to figure that out. ..."
"... whatever else Trump may be, he's no white nationalist. But again his supporters can't figure stuff like that out. ..."
"... In extreme situations, it's more important to win than to play by the rules. – This is the moral reasoning **** of the fraudsters. The basic equation they applied is so simple that it hurts (and therefore: worked perfectly well – in all of the West) ..."
"... In the Art of Winning Elections it did not take a genius to develop this solution – the lowest number of night-suitcases (filled with ballots) for the highest number of elector votes . ..."
"... In my mind the election was already unfair when you have the entire MSM and the Internet social media companies rooting for one candidate while attacking the other and banning/censoring the voices of his supporters under various pretexts. Both candidates and their supporters, should have been given equal exposure but I don't know how that could be achieved in practice. ..."
"... At a minimum the circumstantial evidence of vote counts being stopped in swing states along with gerrymandered rules was highly suspicious. To claim a mandate on such a close election while losing house seats is absurd but the Republicans bungling the Georgia Senate run off over $2K checks and a sycophantic MSM ensures they will. ..."
"... We are to believe Biden won 507 counties, the least EVER, but won the most votes ever. Trump won 74 million votes, beating Obama's 69 million in 2008, the previous all-time high. Trump won over 2500 counties. ..."
"... Strange that all these presidential elections are always neck and neck. Just because there are two parties does not mean that election after election the vote will boil down to one or two "swing states" and a few thousand votes. Statistically, it just doesn't make sense. ..."
"... This is strong evidence, if not proof, that these elections are scripted from beginning to end ..."
"... The convenient thing about postal votes is that they make it possible to wait until the opponent's votes are all in and counted – then send in just enough postal votes to tip the balance. It's rather like an auction in which one bidder gets only the one bid, and then a rival can offer $1 more. ..."
"... Well said. I'm sure that it's no coincidence that DJT has been involved with televised wrestling over the years. Every great contest requires a memorable "heel" to engage the spectators. In televised snooker in the UK, final matches often are over best of 35 frames. It's unusual for them not to go to the last ball of the final frame. Got to have a little drama. ..."
"... The point is, it is the average intellect, moral and civic weight of the involved constituencies that allows or doesn't allow what shouldn't be allowed in a real democracy. You don't have actual democracy below a lower threshold of intellect and moral and civic worth of all the main involved parties. ..."
"... When you consider Donald Trump's grotesque antics, his entirely unpresidential behavior, evident falsehoods and blatantly corrupt actions – together with the systematic media blitz taking every opportunity to show him in the worst possible light; it is quite astounding that he received as many votes as he did. Far, far more than could be accounted for by simply ascribing them to his 'deplorables'. ..."
"... I think Trump's greatest legacy will be that he ripped away the curtain and the masks fell and we all got to see just how nefarious and rigged the system is, from federal judges to our intelligence community to the FBI/DOJ to Congress to the media ..."
"... Dominion machines can do anything! They can assign a weight of 1.5 per single vote to one candidate, and .75 per vote to the other, and can adjust as necessary. They can assign batches of "adjudicated" ballots to the candidate of your choice. They can just switch votes from one candidate to the other in increments of several thousand, let's subtract 29,000 votes from candidate a and add them to b's column. They can allow access by a third party to the administrator's identity and password so the third party can enter and participate directly in tabulation of the votes. ..."
"... They won the election the old way: they stole it fair and square. ..."
"... If you like your bourgeois job and want to keep it, you will support the narrative. ..."
"... All of the comments on here that analyze DJT's strengths and weaknesses miss the point. I personally think he made some very poor choices; but, to inappropriately paraphrase Carville, it's the fraud, stupid. ..."
"... Occam's Razor should be applied- instead of the nonsense of Chavez having an interest in voting software; voting machines being manipulated; truckloads of paper ballots being moved across state lines- my favorite; etc. ..."
"... t would be very easy to have individuals in a nursing home or even an adult day care center for mentally (dementia) incapacitated adults sign ballots. There are numerous day care centers in New York City, federally funded, where individuals could be coaxed to sign ballots. Just say Trump will close the day care center -- especially where interpreters must be provided because the individuals cannot understand English due to varying stages of mental incapacity. ..."
"... I wonder how many people have watched the twenty hours or so of state legislature hearings related to the election. Can people just not be bothered? These were historic hearings of huge importance, but I assume they didn't get much coverage in the MSM. I think most of them were livestreamed only by small right-wing networks. ..."
"... What were the results of the 2016 election? Billary received 65 million to Trumps 62 million. Gotcha. So we have roughly 127 million who showed up to vote that time. (Wonder how many of those were legit.) So ONLY 4 years later, Joe "I Look Like I'm Drugged" Biden ALLEGEDLY received 80 million and Trump received 74 million. Okay, that is a turnout of 154 million votes. So if I believe in this fairy tale, I was supposed to believe that in ONLY 4 years the vote count increased by an alleged 27 million. Hell, a lot of our most populous states do not even have that many people. ..."
"... Laws don't say a little bit of fraud is OK, because the fraud committed on or by a business didn't cause bankruptcy. Either there was fraud, or there wasn't. ..."
"... That several courts refused to hear cases for lack of standing, is patently ridiculous. If a candidate has no standing, who does? In an election, everybody has standing because they are affected by the result, and by virtue of Citizens United , corporations do as well. ..."
"... Watch this recent interview of Chris Hedges by Jimmy Dore about the root causes of our current woes. Hedges speaks off the cuff in words that sound as polished, powerful and precise as the language in tracts considered to be classics. His Pulitzer clearly was not found in a Cracker Jack box. ..."
Jan 15, 2021 | www.unz.com

Kiza , says: January 15, 2021 at 7:51 am GMT • 10.2 hours ago

Before the election I polled all my friends who would win. The majority of both left and right oriented said that it would be Trump. I said, yes Trump would win a fair election, but he will lose on who is counting. Multiple methods of attack on the election outcome have been prepared, all methods well planned, tried and perfected in the string of color revolutions around the World. Because those attacking Trump are the same as those who have been doing the "regime changes" in the vulnerable countries over the past 30 years. Trump never had a grain of chance against this mighty machinery. Corrupt local governors and blackmailed and co-opted all levels of judiciary, targeted lawlessness, threats and examples of violence and future civil war if the other side wins, censorship, eviction of election observers, night-time suitcases of ballots, one-sided main sewerage media.

All pure déjà vu – this is exactly how the color revolutions work – the art of winning elections. The US bombers arrive only if the "peaceful transition of power" (aka the stealing of election and post-election) fails. In the color revolution manual, there is also a chapter on prevention of resistance to the stolen election – thus the msm and congress screeching like castrated pigs against Trump's imaginary incitement of insurrection (pure psychological projection). I was always sure that Trump is too much of a cheap demagogue and hot air filled balloon to be able to initiate a real insurrection.

The playbook/manual is fully symmetrical – it always addresses both possible outcomes – if their side does not manage to steal the election then they incite an insurrection and oust the winner (the Viktor Yanukovych outcome).

... ... ...

In political terms, in the 2016 election a quasi-populist candidate slipped through. This will never happen again because state laws will be enacted with built-in mail voting and electronic voting machines. Competent or incompetent populists will never get through again. This will ensure that the choice will always be only between the approved, controllable candidates with plenty of skeletons in wardrobes and dirty laptops in their closets. It is funny how few people appear to understand that Hunter's laptop was not just a suppressed election decider then an important reason for Biden's suitability – the insurance of ensurance, the media ready Kompromat.

Finally, it is very important to keep in mind that none of what transpired would have been possible in a healthy country : election of Trump without enough Kompromat to have to invent the dumbest Putin's puppet meme and the consequent exposure of the manipulative Deep State, the sulfuric acid for the brain MSM and the high-techs fakers. These are all the Hegels' seeds of destruction in action.

dfordoom , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 8:04 am GMT • 10.0 hours ago
@anonymous

One thing to ask is why was this huge effort made to oust Trump?

Maybe it was hostility towards Trump's supporters rather than hostility towards Trump. Trump is a reliable pro-immigration ultra-Zionist rabidly pro-LGBT liberal. The views of a large proportion of Trump's supporters are diametrically opposed to Trump's own views, but his supporters aren't smart enough to figure that out.

dfordoom , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 8:07 am GMT • 10.0 hours ago
@anon

Because Trump inflames white nationalism

Which is hilarious because whatever else Trump may be, he's no white nationalist. But again his supporters can't figure stuff like that out.

Dieter Kief , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:11 am GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@A123

In extreme situations, it's more important to win than to play by the rules. – This is the moral reasoning **** of the fraudsters. The basic equation they applied is so simple that it hurts (and therefore: worked perfectly well – in all of the West): Trump = Hitler.

**** If I might go with Sigmund Freud here, I'd say: – Their rationalizations instead of "their moral reasoning".

Cthulu Smith , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:11 am GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@anon

I prefer this model, and it's not being discussed: Someone was making BIG money off of those programs and policies leftover from Obama. Trade with China? Care to mention one BIG company who peddles Chinese wares? Maybe two or three of them, perhaps?

"Follow the money", is what Deep Throat told Woodward. If we do that with our darling Deep State? Just ask yourself, who stood to benefit from four years of Hillary, pray tell? There's your answer.

Kiza , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:14 am GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@A123

The Deep State regime stole this election in exactly the same states where Trump successfully campaigned in 2016 to win against Clinton. In the Art of Winning Elections it did not take a genius to develop this solution – the lowest number of night-suitcases (filled with ballots) for the highest number of elector votes .

Commentator Mike , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:32 am GMT • 9.6 hours ago

Thanks for a balanced assessment. In my mind the election was already unfair when you have the entire MSM and the Internet social media companies rooting for one candidate while attacking the other and banning/censoring the voices of his supporters under various pretexts. Both candidates and their supporters, should have been given equal exposure but I don't know how that could be achieved in practice.

Trump was severely hamstrung by the role played by the MSM and the social media. In a real democracy this state of affairs should not be allowed: where the rich and powerful who control the media have an unequal say and overwhelming influence compared to the ordinary voters.

SurfingUSA , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:48 am GMT • 9.3 hours ago

Now we have Ruby Freeman, heretofore only on video rolling out suitcases in Fulton County, now on AUDIO discussing her $100 an hour election heist gig and the "Secretary of State" is mentioned at 2:02 by her boss Ralph Jones:

https://thedonald.win/p/11S0bp78qW/georgia–ruby-caught-on-video-wi/c/

Sirius , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:54 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago

There is a small element of illogic in the numbers part of the argument, namely in using 2 different metrics to make that argument. (I agree with the corruption part of the argument covered by Glenn Greenwald. It's censorship in action).

As I've done before, I'll reiterate, I'm no fan of Biden or Trump. In fact I'm worried about the war cabinet Biden already seems to be assembling just as I still worry about the crazed maniac Pompeo for the next few days left in the current administration.

But here's the point and it is a very subtle one: to say it was a tight race and only 1 in 7,000 Americans had to change their vote is a bit misleading. In the absurd Electoral College, winner take all the state system (which is far more scandalous in my view), we take one state at a time. If we accept the vote count, Biden won over 7,000,000 more votes more than Trump, a margin of victory of 4.4%. Not very close.

Therefore, if it were a one person one vote nationwide system, 2.2% would have to change their minds, meaning 1 out of every 45 Americans.

But it's a state by state margin that we're after. Thus more to the point would be to take each individual state and its margin. So if we took Georgia as one example, the margin of Biden's lead was 11,779 votes out of 4,935,487 votes cast for Biden and Trump (we disregard all the third party votes in this argument). 5,890 voters would have to "change their minds". Out of the Biden/Trump overall vote, that's 1 out of 838 Georgian voters.

To apply a different system, overall US vote count, to one state, Georgia, is using which system you prefer to come up with an illusionary 1 out of 7000 Americans, not applying the same metric down the line. It's a separate state by state system, not a nationwide vote. You have to stay consistent to be accurate in this method of argumentation.

Very technical, yes. What about mail-in voting? What is the evidence that this is by definition rigged or manipulated? Mailed ballots have a paper trail like in-person ballots. Presumably someone could steal your ballot from your home and vote on your behalf, but this can be traced and found out. At least one state, Washington, doesn't even have in-person voting at all. Does that mean all of their votes are fraudulent?

What about voter suppression? Shouldn't that be factored in? That seems to happen a lot more often in red states than blue states. What about Trumps attempts to sabotage the US Postal System? Doesn't that bother anybody who supports him? What about his refusal to commit to the results prior to Election Day? (He did the same in 2016 by the way). This only added to his opponents concern about his dictatorial tendencies.

Finally, in all the arguments I've seen anywhere, I haven't seen anyone lay out which states use those ridiculous electronic voting machines which leave no paper trail. That should be the other real scandal and those should be immediately banned in every state. Get rid of those and the Electoral College and we might have a fair system.

Oh, and get rid of a system that is eternally dominated by 2 parties as well, whether through run off elections or even better, proportional representation. The latter that would be truly more democratic.

fatmanscoop , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:06 am GMT • 9.0 hours ago
@anonymous

why was this huge effort made to oust Trump? What did they want him to do that he wouldn't do? Was he an impediment to the increase of control over the average person? Did not want to start up another action against Syria? Would not attack Iran without having a coalition of NATO countries lined up? Was against total outsourcing to China? Not confrontational enough against Russia? Perhaps he gave the deplorables dangerous ideas about them having some rights. If that question could be answered then we'd know what is coming.

He humiliated the upper echelons of society so thoroughly via his 2016 campaign and victory.

sarz , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:10 am GMT • 8.9 hours ago
@anon Because Trump inflames white nationalism, which is anathema to the Jews.

There is evidence that Trump himself is a Jew, and a fanatic Zionist at that, so his self-serving incitement of white nationalism (whose causes he did little to implement, unlike his steady support for every imaginable Israeli cause, tbe more outrageous the better, short of war with the "usable" nukes he had had developed for the purpose, that Russia warned him away from) was especially galling to the top Jews such as the Rothschilds for whom Israel is nothing sentimental, just one more piece in their chess game for world power.

Hamilcar , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:15 am GMT • 8.8 hours ago

Thank you Ron.

And thank you for this site which is a beacon of free speech and dissent against our vile, corrupt, incompetent ruling class.

In all the post election rancor little attention has been brought to how razor thin the margin actually was. And with you being a vociferous critic of Trumps boorish antics and insane foreign policy the candor on this issue is appreciated.

At a minimum the circumstantial evidence of vote counts being stopped in swing states along with gerrymandered rules was highly suspicious. To claim a mandate on such a close election while losing house seats is absurd but the Republicans bungling the Georgia Senate run off over $2K checks and a sycophantic MSM ensures they will.

And after abetting barbaric violence and anarchy for months the Democrats will now use trespassing in their "Sacred Temple" to unleash a crackdown by the national security state and unprecedented censorship and social-credit run by woke-corporate oligarchs.

Interestingly (And as many predicted) it appears they will reopen the economy and declare "victory" over Covid shortly after Bidens inauguration. Clearly the bizarre excesses of the lockdowns and dynamiting of the economy were calculated to undermine Trump and consolidate wealth and power from the start.

The question is what exactly this "new normal" will be and how far they're willing to go in order to purge the Trumpists and populist right. It will be easy to garner support for the latter but if the daily disruptions and financial shocks continue the system will collapse.

A new, large scale war would be a useful distraction but it's hard to imagine the U.S sustaining one in its current state much less against capable adversaries like China and Russia.

Then again, arrogant, idiotic, catastrophic policy blunders are the defining feature of this ruling class for the last 30 years so I wouldn't put it past them given the madness we've seen already.

sulu , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:21 am GMT • 8.7 hours ago

In effect, America's media and tech giants formed a united front to steal the election and somehow drag the crippled Biden/Harris ticket across the finish line.

And what ethnic group owns America's media?

thotmonger , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:51 am GMT • 8.2 hours ago
@ruralguy

adjustment via a plastic bag put over their heads. If they were lucky.

There was no real contest. Because? A. Control of the mainstream media was so one sided. And that is where we are at now here in USA. Imagine, a standing President of the USA has been banned and censored by all the "American" mainstream media giants. Actually, you do not have to imagine. It just happened: Big Tech and MSM has openly torpedoed the First Amendment and US Constitution. So we know where they are coming from. It's also kind of disappointing how most of our "representatives" are dealing with this.

Sirius , says: January 15, 2021 at 10:30 am GMT • 7.6 hours ago
@John Gruskos

The only cause other than himself on which Trump has been consistent is serving Israel. One of the only two major policies of Obama's that he didn't reverse was support of Israel, though he took it to yet another level. The other one was increasing military spendings. Obama never cut military spending. My money is on Biden never doing it either, and also that he will take support of Israel to yet another level. I hope I'm wrong.

Contraviews , says: January 15, 2021 at 10:39 am GMT • 7.4 hours ago

On the election night I was listening to two of our New Zealand reporters who were reporting the incoming results. I remember quite clearly after results had been coming in for a while they remarked: "well that's it another four years of the same". That were their exact words. That must have been before the postal votes came in, which suddenly changed the picture completely to Biden's advantage. Postal votes I believe were introduced for the first time in 2020 because of the Corona pandemic. It's believed that postal votes can be more easily tampered with. Postal votes are expected to remain during future elections I believe.

Anon [254] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 10:44 am GMT • 7.4 hours ago

We are to believe Biden won 507 counties, the least EVER, but won the most votes ever. Trump won 74 million votes, beating Obama's 69 million in 2008, the previous all-time high. Trump won over 2500 counties.

Clarice Feldman at the Americanthinker.com noted that many residences had multiple votes from the current occupants plus previous occupants (apartment complexes) in this election, because old voter rolls aren't purged in a timely manner. The same addy might have 3 previous residents voting, plus the same individual voters legitimately voting at their new addresses.

My advice for whites is this .we will probably be getting in new wars for neocons now, so you might wanna think twice before signing up for the military. You may find your twenties being used up in multiple deployments in foreign miserable places.

noname27 , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 11:00 am GMT • 7.1 hours ago

A very interesting interview by Brian Ruhe with Dennis Fetcho: https://www.bitchute.com/embed/a9AtcoEyDaPh

noname27 , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 11:05 am GMT • 7.0 hours ago
@shylockcracy

Only if the American people don't adopt the MAGA phenomenon and run with it as their own = The People's MAGA MOVEMENT – who needs Trumpstein?

Schuetze , says: January 15, 2021 at 11:16 am GMT • 6.8 hours ago

@nsa

Strange that all these presidential elections are always neck and neck. Just because there are two parties does not mean that election after election the vote will boil down to one or two "swing states" and a few thousand votes. Statistically, it just doesn't make sense.

Of course the media loves these nail-biter elections because it drives up their viewership. Every election we get the same old farcical "debates", scandals and continual ridiculous sound bites. This is strong evidence, if not proof, that these elections are scripted from beginning to end, even up to and including the "march to the Capitol" and the ensuing "insurrection".

onebornfree , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 11:32 am GMT • 6.6 hours ago
@Ash Williams

"Ron put a "I'm a reasonable man" spin on this"

Exactly. "Spin". He also appears to be entirely ignorant of the fact that the constitution states that each states electors, and the procedure for choosing them, must be accomplished via the state[s] legislatures, and that in all 6[?] swing states that recorded early morning, miraculous turn-around votes from Trump to Biden, that that particular constitutional procedure had been entirely , and very conveniently, ignored:

U.S constitution. Article 2 section 1:

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annamaria , says: January 15, 2021 at 11:57 am GMT • 6.1 hours ago
@Rational

https://thesaker.is/israel-united-states-unite-efforts-in-large-scale-strikes-on-iranian-infrastructure-in-syria/

The Lobby wants Syria by any means, up to a direct confrontation with the Russian Federation. The Jewish hatred for Iran is boundless (same for Russia – take note, Americans). Zionists care not about human lives.

Tom Welsh , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:08 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago

"I don't know or care anything about Dominion voting machines, whether they are controlled by Venezuelan Marxists, Chinese Communists, or Martians. But the most blatant election-theft was accomplished in absolutely plain sight".

Cui bono? Obviously the main group profiting from the fraudulent election was the Democratic Party and its supporters. So why drag in foreign governments? Most of them are all too well aware that it's very dangerous to attract the attention of the USA for good or bad. Like trying to save a drowning whale.

So their sensible strategy is to stand back at a safe distance and watch the monster perish in its own poisons, hoping it doesn't lash out and harm them in its dying struggles.

Tom Welsh , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:13 pm GMT • 5.9 hours ago
@Contraviews

The convenient thing about postal votes is that they make it possible to wait until the opponent's votes are all in and counted – then send in just enough postal votes to tip the balance. It's rather like an auction in which one bidder gets only the one bid, and then a rival can offer $1 more.

Ridiculous if you want a fair election. But nobody who matters wants or expects anything of that kind. A proper political machine gets everything cut and dried well in advance.

Trump was unpredictable and, to a degree, uncontrollable. He had to go.

Cortes , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:17 pm GMT • 5.8 hours ago
@Schuetze

Well said. I'm sure that it's no coincidence that DJT has been involved with televised wrestling over the years. Every great contest requires a memorable "heel" to engage the spectators. In televised snooker in the UK, final matches often are over best of 35 frames. It's unusual for them not to go to the last ball of the final frame. Got to have a little drama.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch the rancher counts the silver dollars.

Timur The Lame , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:40 pm GMT • 5.4 hours ago

...If ego or narcissism can explain it, so be it. I'll go with insane or suffering from dementia. Any 'drain the swamp' or 'fix the system', MAGA or "build back better" argument would appeal only to retards. Re-visit Carroll Quigly's succinct description of political parties in the USA in Tragedy and Hope, pages 1247-1248 (hardcover) or Google same.

I'm beginning to believe that a different species is holding sway and we are the proverbial Eloi.

atlantis_dweller , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:41 pm GMT • 5.4 hours ago
@Commentator Mike

The point is, it is the average intellect, moral and civic weight of the involved constituencies that allows or doesn't allow what shouldn't be allowed in a real democracy. You don't have actual democracy below a lower threshold of intellect and moral and civic worth of all the main involved parties.

We could in other words say: there will be as much real democracy as is desired by the average citizen, where to desire it is not to blandly say "I agree with democracy".

atlantis_dweller , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:49 pm GMT • 5.3 hours ago
@Kiza

It is funny how few people appear to understand that Hunter's laptop was not just a suppressed election decider then an important reason for Biden's suitability

Yes, few people understand that all regime-approved candidates are people able to be blackmailed for a precise reason, and not at all by chance. What about Hegel though?

Getaclue , says: January 15, 2021 at 1:31 pm GMT • 4.6 hours ago
@obvious Globalist NWO creeps stole the election, they spent 4 years trying to overthrow the 2016 election by coups aided and abetted by the Globalist Mainslime Media, FBI etc. -- you missed all that of course? .

They also PUBlICLY previewed, as they did the COVID Agenda, stealing the election a couple months before, gamed and planned it in various outcomes .Anyone who can't see what is up is either willfully ignorant, lying, or "stupid" as you say.

No decent person is in favor of the Agenda of Harris/Biden serving the NWO "Great Reset" to crush the Peons -- you must see yourself as above the coming carnage -- I have news for you -- your not.

Johnny Smoggins , says: January 15, 2021 at 1:46 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@ruralguy

We'll know we're in an actual civil war when different branches of the military, or units within a branch are fighting each other or when the police are fighting the military. Don't hold your breath of course because every cop and soldier in America is a traitor and they're all on the same team.

Garliv , says: January 15, 2021 at 1:51 pm GMT • 4.2 hours ago
@atlantis_dweller

What I still find unfathomable is the fact that the steal was so obvious: so in your face but yet the big media, big tech, federal and state law enforcements, spooks, judges, big GOP politicians etc still behave like nothing ever happened. Trump and his supporters are now labeled domestic terrorists and lawfare is about to be unleashed on them. It's surreal.

Sick of Orcs , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:09 pm GMT • 3.9 hours ago

Had the Orange heeded his MAGA base rather than his (((rat-in-law))) he'd still be President. There was certainly election fraud; enough of the betrayed base stayed home to make it effective. Trump was a p -- y all four years and got what he deserved. He was always a stop-gap time-buying non-solution...

Emslander , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:20 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago
@Reg Cæsar

...issues can no longer be discussed openly, the reliability of elections in the USA is the most important issue that faces us. The people will accept an honest winner in a serious election. Nothing is as cleansing to our natural divisions as the result of a well-contested election, in the knowledge that, in a reasonable interval, the same offices will be up for new contests.

Nothing is as damaging to our peace of mind as knowing that one side won fairly, but was robbed of governing. I thank Ron Unz for writing and publishing such a reasonably argued essay on the matter. It is the gold standard for 2020 election analyses.

Trinity , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:25 pm GMT • 3.7 hours ago

This is sad people. Was talking to a friend and even his 80 something year old mother commented on how decrepit Sleazy Joe looks and walks. I was watching him deliver "his speech" last night and the guy had a hard time reading a few sentences off the teleprompter without stammering and stuttering.

After an embarrassing and truly cringe worthy "speech" Biden is seen walking off. The dude can barely walk...

Temporary Insanity , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:36 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago

For eighty million who cast their ballots for the old geezer, it's mostly out of economic necessity; however, for the seventy plus million people who are Trump supporters, it's a fight for their country and more importantly, culture.

anon [263] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:42 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago

Weimerica!!!

Brought to you by the same people who gave us the Weimar Republic, only twice as vicious and vindictive this time because they know what they did wrong last time -- they weren't vicious and vindictive enough.

Albertde , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:44 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago

In a healthy country, there would have been no need for Trump.

macilrae , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:59 pm GMT • 3.1 hours ago

When you consider Donald Trump's grotesque antics, his entirely unpresidential behavior, evident falsehoods and blatantly corrupt actions – together with the systematic media blitz taking every opportunity to show him in the worst possible light; it is quite astounding that he received as many votes as he did. Far, far more than could be accounted for by simply ascribing them to his 'deplorables'.

And, even if Biden did, in fact, just manage to win – presenting himself as a force of reason, stability and sanity – a great mass of voters sensed something in him that they distrusted even more than in Trump. That was a stunning rejection – of almost the same magnitude as Hillary's in 2016!

Old and Grumpy , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:05 pm GMT • 3.0 hours ago
@John Gruskos

You're right, and Ron Unz is right. Had Trump retained his white male voters of 2016, the Democrats likely couldn't have pulled off the steal. But in the end Donald Trump was a mere salesmen selling a con.

Ashley H , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:16 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

...If you had told people in France in 1785 or Russia in 1913 that within a few short years about a quarter of their population would be slaughtered in revolutionary turmoil and many more displaced, they would have dismissively laughed in your face believing – as do we – that their civilizations were far too advanced for such nonsense.

Let us hope such a horrific fate is not in store for all of us as the Great Reset is imposed on us all given how western civilization has clearly failed to the point where some sort of profound, substantive reform is inevitable.

Given that the foundation of this Reset comprises so much ill-will, deception, theft and coercion, it is unlikely that this new paradigm will benefit the millions of people it will soon dominate.

lysias , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:19 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

...Interesting book on Brit intelligence in the U.S. in 1940: Thomas Mahl's "Desperate Deception."

Anonymous [164] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:20 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago
@John Gruskos

Another can of worms, there would be additional Congressional hearings over it, etc. At the time Trump was still in the middle of the Muller investigation. That special prosecutor investigation tied up Trump until March 2019.

I firmly believe that no man in human history could have taken on and fought Deep State, the Swamp, the Establishment, media, GOPe, et al., as valiantly as Trump. Even in his 70's the man has superhuman energy, fortitude, and strategizing. I think Trump's greatest legacy will be that he ripped away the curtain and the masks fell and we all got to see just how nefarious and rigged the system is, from federal judges to our intelligence community to the FBI/DOJ to Congress to the media

sayless , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:21 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago

"I don't know or care anything about Dominion voting machines"

Why not? Take a look at Patrick Byrne's summary of evidence for massive election fraud involving the Dominion machines, on his blog over at DeepCapture.

It will explain how a man who sheltered in his house, did not campaign, drew no more than six or seven or twenty-five people to his events, got seven million more votes than a man who drew up to thirty thousand people at his rallies.

...An expert witness in Georgia was able to hack into Dominion in front of the legislative committee in less than a minute. "We're in." In Dominion, and on the internet.

Dominion machines can do anything! They can assign a weight of 1.5 per single vote to one candidate, and .75 per vote to the other, and can adjust as necessary. They can assign batches of "adjudicated" ballots to the candidate of your choice. They can just switch votes from one candidate to the other in increments of several thousand, let's subtract 29,000 votes from candidate a and add them to b's column. They can allow access by a third party to the administrator's identity and password so the third party can enter and participate directly in tabulation of the votes.

And more. If your disfavored candidate is winning by a landslide and your 1.5/.75 ratio isn't working, you can put in a USB card and adjust accordingly.

If you're desperate you can upload tens of thousands of votes in a single drop which all, every one, go to your preferred candidate. And you can do it in one hour on a machine which can only handle a few thousand votes per hour, fed in manually.

If things get out of control you can call a halt to the vote count, send the observers home, and haul out the extra ballots stashed under the table skirt. But it's best to be mindful of the video cameras. Which they were not.

Really, read about it: Patrick Byrne, DeepCapture, "Evidence That The 2020 Election Was Rigged." Lays out the various ways by which it was done, then appends evidence using graphs, memos from election administrators, and statistical analysis.

He's no Trump supporter either, is a committed libertarian, and has never voted for either a Democrat or Republican presidential candidate in his life. He thinks Barack Obama graced the presidency and that Michelle Obama was a class act as First Lady.

Also: The Chinese government acquired Dominion for $400 million in the fall of 2020.

The King is a Fink , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:26 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago
@A123

I found this interesting (posted by another commenter back in Nov):

https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

Finally, does anyone think the Dominion case against Sydney Powell potentially offers an opportunity for the evidence of electoral fraud to be aired in public?

Jeff Davis , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:31 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@utu

They won the election the old way: they stole it fair and square.

anon [954] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:35 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago

While it's an effective rhetorical tactic by our fearless leader Unz, there's no reason to be agnostic about CIA ballot-stuffing. That's as blindingly obvious as their censorship.

https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

The ballot-stuffing shows only the most cursory measures to conceal it, consistent with a command structure that exercises precision control over media attention. CIA can censor adverse information on their candidate's trading in influence and abuse of function. So naturally CIA dumped votes in statistically absurd proportions, trusting to their Mockingbird media to short-circuit public inquiry. When you have arbitrary Nazi-grade life-and-death power, as CIA does, it's hard not to get sloppy. They don't give a fuck that you saw what they did there, cause shut up.

Jeff Albertson , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:37 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago
@Tom Welsh ent-text">

Spot on about postal votes; it's my only slight disagreement with Ron's take on the affair. These votes were being received for days, if not weeks before the deadline and could have been (and probably were) counted as they came in. The gross imbalance between Trump and Biden votes in these after-hours counts, along with the sudden spikes obvious on many graphs, is proof, imo, of the cheat. In order to get ahead of the narrative, the 'rats said it would happen, and, lo, it did.
If the regime can't provide for trustworthy elections, it can't expect to be regarded as legitimate. Probably by design; they don't need us.

Ashley H , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:49 pm GMT • 2.3 hours ago
@The King is a Fink

Navarro's three reports do a good job of summarizing most of the possible vote fraud. He's a Harvard PhD so more than qualified to pull all the date together etc. They use many graphics and are easy and fast to read.

Ashley H , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:51 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago
@The King is a Fink

In this post-Republic new reality, no Court will take a case in which Discovery reveals any sort of election fraud. The election is over and it's now verboten to revisit it. Don't be surprised if archive.org is forced to delete thousands of articles about it. Orwellian times

utu , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:57 pm GMT • 2.1 hours ago

Incumbent Donald Trump lost Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin by such extremely narrow margins that a swing of less than 22,000 votes in those crucial states would have gotten him reelected. With a record 158 million votes cast, this amounted to a victory margin of around 0.01% . So if just one American voter in 7,000 had changed his mind, Trump might have received another four years in office. One American voter in 7,000

Margins of general vote do not matter. Biden won Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin by much higher margins than 0.01%. In Arizona Biden won by 0.3% of all votes in Arizona and in Georgia by 0.2%. These are small margins but probably comparable to margins in swing states in 2016 where Trump won.

Scut Farkus , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:05 pm GMT • 2.0 hours ago
@Garliv It's for your own good, of course. I once read an article written by someone who had a chance to hang out with the rich, powerful, famous, etc. and gain some perspective on their thinking. They really do believe that it's their role to shape the future for the proles. I know someone who's just like that.

If you like your bourgeois job and want to keep it, you will support the narrative.

All of the comments on here that analyze DJT's strengths and weaknesses miss the point. I personally think he made some very poor choices; but, to inappropriately paraphrase Carville, it's the fraud, stupid.

edward manfredonia , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:19 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago

Ron,

Occam's Razor should be applied- instead of the nonsense of Chavez having an interest in voting software; voting machines being manipulated; truckloads of paper ballots being moved across state lines- my favorite; etc.

The mail in ballots could be sent to a nursing home or to individuals, who are very old, and these individuals could be instructed by a relative to sign their name.

I frequently explain to individuals, whose first language is not English, the papers, which they are signing. I explain their 401K and retirement plan withdrawals.

It would be very easy to have individuals in a nursing home or even an adult day care center for mentally (dementia) incapacitated adults sign ballots. There are numerous day care centers in New York City, federally funded, where individuals could be coaxed to sign ballots. Just say Trump will close the day care center -- especially where interpreters must be provided because the individuals cannot understand English due to varying stages of mental incapacity.

The day care center is a racket. I believe the reimbursement rate under Medicaid-Medicare is $120 per day. Plus, the transportation fee - approximately $40 per person each way. These centers flourish in cities, such as New York City, Newark, Philadelphia, etc. I have yet to hear anyone mention that Nancy Pelosi's father was Mayor of Baltimore, Thomas D'Alesandro Jr. And Baltimore is one city that it totally devastated by drugs, prostitution, crime, etc.

Now for the important question. Did Nancy Pelosi have $12 pints of ice cream in her office?

Thank you.

Edward Manfredonia

RudyM , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:30 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago
@Ash Williams

The Navarro report is a useful summary.

But I wonder how many people have watched the twenty hours or so of state legislature hearings related to the election. Can people just not be bothered? These were historic hearings of huge importance, but I assume they didn't get much coverage in the MSM. I think most of them were livestreamed only by small right-wing networks.

anon [437] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:31 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago

Servant of Gla'aki 39, Hapalong 101 anent Willke: Willke sold a million books in less than two months. He was more of a media phenom than Trump, much hotter at the time of the election. They were going to make a movie of One World. And his message was more populist, too – basically, fuck your US national interest, we want peace and freedom. He just came out and said what everybody thought, Oh boy, now that we won the war, we'll get the peace and freedom that we fought for! So he didn't need a Sheldon or a Gina to rig elections and install him.

Dulles was squirming around under rocks at that time (he cut his teeth at the League of Nations founding,) even before he and his ultras got their Gestapo in Foggy Bottom, and they arranged Hillary-style party machinations to push Willke aside.

Now of course there's a second line of defense, the CIA proprietaries that steal the election directly:

https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/11/15/short-history-election-fraud/

Diebold and its brass-plate acquirers. CIA set them up to ratfuck Kerry and Maduro and sheep-dipped them to ratfuck Trump.

The whole world knows the USA is a ridiculous fake democracy, a totalitarian CIA pariah state voting alone against peace, development and human rights. (Just look at the 2nd Committee vote on A/C.2/75/L.4/Rev.1) The USA is North Korea with an ugly leisure squad. It's the beltway that deserves our fire and fury. Just wipe it out with WMD and start again.

https://www.rt.com/usa/364288-us-election-international-standards-osce/

Trinity , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:42 pm GMT • 1.4 hours ago

What were the results of the 2016 election? Billary received 65 million to Trumps 62 million. Gotcha. So we have roughly 127 million who showed up to vote that time. (Wonder how many of those were legit.) So ONLY 4 years later, Joe "I Look Like I'm Drugged" Biden ALLEGEDLY received 80 million and Trump received 74 million. Okay, that is a turnout of 154 million votes. So if I believe in this fairy tale, I was supposed to believe that in ONLY 4 years the vote count increased by an alleged 27 million. Hell, a lot of our most populous states do not even have that many people.

Like I say, I concede that Biden might have had about 60-65 million LEGIT votes to Trump's MINIMUM of 74 million. Hmm, so that means that total vote count would be 134-139 million. Hmm, sounds more reasonable to me. Numbers are not adding up folks.

Robert Dolan , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:45 pm GMT • 1.3 hours ago

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/huge-despite-total-media-blackout-78-trump-voters-believe-election-rigged-stolen/

A123 , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:48 pm GMT • 1.3 hours ago
@The King is a Fink

There is a considerable amount of crowd sourced reporting on electoral fraud collected here: https://hereistheevidence.com

They also have a special section for issues related to the Capitol Protest (not riot): https://hereistheevidence.com/capitol-protest-1-6-21/

PEACE

Curmudgeon , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:02 pm GMT • 1.1 hours ago
@A123

...Laws don't say a little bit of fraud is OK, because the fraud committed on or by a business didn't cause bankruptcy. Either there was fraud, or there wasn't. If there was, then the results of the election in those areas are null and void. The certification of those results expands the fraud to the state level.

That several courts refused to hear cases for lack of standing, is patently ridiculous. If a candidate has no standing, who does? In an election, everybody has standing because they are affected by the result, and by virtue of Citizens United , corporations do as well.

David Martin , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 5:22 pm GMT • 43 minutes ago

https://dcdave.heresycentral.is/2021/01/07/the-big-guy-address/

Turk 152 , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:26 pm GMT • 39 minutes ago

In an ideal world, we would be discussing how we can ensure the integrity of our elections, so that both substantively and the appearance of integrity is upheld. Instead, we are trying to get citizens jailed (right & left) for protesting the sanctity of a system in which both sides know is corrupt. There is no question in Dems mind that Bush stole the election in 2000, so why is it any different now that the shoe is on the other foot.

Our oligarch rulers know very well that they rig elections, it has been documented under LBJ, not to mention the long list of coups all over the world organized by the intelligence agencies over the past 50 years, these are historical facts. But rather than citizens being able to focus on the real problem, we are beating the crap out of our fellow citizens for something we know all know is real; and pointing to the other side as the source of the corruption. This is exactly why the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

Anon [432] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:29 pm GMT • 36 minutes ago

Mr. Unz, who is always well informed, highly organized and impeccably lucid, gives a credible and succinct analysis of the dumpster fire that is American politics, indeed of this country's leadership across the board. It creates mostly chaos and suffering every time it meddles in our affairs these days, certainly over the long run but especially in its current crash program to impose tyranny over the many so the few can take whatever they want whether they require it or not.

Watch this recent interview of Chris Hedges by Jimmy Dore about the root causes of our current woes. Hedges speaks off the cuff in words that sound as polished, powerful and precise as the language in tracts considered to be classics. His Pulitzer clearly was not found in a Cracker Jack box.

He ain't buying that Trump alone was the fount of all our sorrows or that a deceiving sycophantic grifter like Joe Biden is the fix for anything. There were many bad actors, both GOPers and Dems, both office holders and offstage string-pullers, who have contributed to the coming collapse of this country, which decapitating Trump will not prevent. Joe just happens to be the useful idiot who will be left holding the bag when the end comes, which won't be long now. Factoring in Kamala's possible ascension to the throne will change nothing. Like Joe, she's just a cluck there to take the same orders.

Schuetze , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:31 pm GMT • 34 minutes ago
@Carroll Price ...Trump also flew on the Lolita express. If after all the broken promises that Trump made to his Maga followers anyone still thinks that he is an outsider is, frankly, an idiot.

Trump is a lifetime actor and the entire election was just one big show.

One way we will know if Trump really was a threat to the swamp and an outsider will be what happens after Jan 20. If Trump ends up dead or impoverished and in prison then we will know that he was a real threat. If he flies off into the sunset, perhaps even starting a media company, then we will know that it was all one big vaudeville act.

[Jan 15, 2021] The Navarro report provides detailed proof on how elections in multiple states were stolen

Jan 15, 2021 | www.unz.com

A123 , says: January 14, 2021 at 11:36 pm GMT • 18.5 hours ago

The Navarro report provides detailed proof on how elections in multiple states were stolen. (1)

Open the [MORE] Tab for additional detail.

Given that all rational human beings understand, as a matter of objective proven fact, that the election was stolen Where do we go from here?

The slender & extreme, authoritarian, Leftoid margin in the House is certain to be a circular firing squad of internecine discontent. What little they pass will contain more pork than an industrial pig farm. It will be a matter of months before the U.S. Economy is tanked by SJW illegitimacy and misrule.

Much like the GOP beat Gerrymandering, with lead time the GOP will beat Fultoning (named after the Atlanta County). The GOP is sure to take the House in the 2022 elections.

How many times will Biden & Harris be Impeached, shamed, and forced to undergo public trial in the Senate? There will have to be multiple trials to establish for the historical record that Biden/Harris Coup plot was vastly more criminal than Nixon, Clinton, and Trump.

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Theft By A Thousand Cuts' Report Conclusive On Election Fraud, Slams Media Cover Up

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/navarro-report-conclusive-slams-media/

OUTRIGHT VOTER FRAUD IN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

BALLOT MISHANDLING IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES

CONTESTABLE PROCESS FOULS IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES

EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE VIOLATIONS IN THE SIX BATTLEGROUND STATES

2020 VOTING MACHINE IRREGULARITIES

STATISTICAL ANOMALIES IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES

[Jan 15, 2021] The Navarro Report Vol 3

Jan 15, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

John Gilberts , Jan 15 2021 1:29 utc | 58

The Navarro Report Vol 3

https://navarroreport.com

'Yes, President Trump Won: The Case, Evidence and Statistical Receipts.'

[Jan 14, 2021] A central rule of a color revolution is to avoid an "orderly transition". The new regime must have a revolutionary mandate instead of a democratic one. Only then can it operate outside the constitution and outside the law.

Jan 14, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Petri Krohn , Jan 13 2021 23:08 utc | 51

How to Un-Trump Four Years of Trump?

A central rule of a color revolution is to avoid an "orderly transition". The new regime must have a revolutionary mandate instead of a democratic one. Only then can it operate outside the constitution and outside the law.

The plan here is to declare not only Trump illegitimate but his whole administration illegitimate. The new regime can then undo all of Trump's executive decisions. There is no need to "stuff" the Supreme Court with extra judges. Simply declare Trump's appointments null and void.

[Jan 14, 2021] The refusal of neoliberal Dems to recognize Trump as President has merely set the tone for viewing Biden now as an illegitimate President who stole elections

Jan 14, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Ramon Zarate , Jan 14 2021 18:54 utc | 8

Anyone who thought voting in Biden was going to end the circus is sadly mistaken. The refusal of a large section of the population to recognize Trump as President has merely set the tone for a large portion of the population to think of Biden as illegitimate. If Biden uses domestic terrorism legislation to try to control the opposition it won't end well. Bring on the lions and Christians and any other unpopular section of the country.

norecovery , Jan 14 2021 19:05 utc | 9

A half century of downward mobility -- crippling of the real economy in which productivity was rewarded -- and neglect causing deterioration of infrastructure (including meeting basic human needs like health care), have brought the U.S. to a state of collapse.

Almost everyone seems to sense this and we feel powerless to rectify the situation through accepted channels, thus some people believe they have a 'patriotic' duty to use other means. The combination of disenfranchised minorities and disgruntled middle class becomes dangerous (to the established order) as soon as both groups realize they can't win by blaming and fighting each other.

We haven't reached that stage yet, judging from the comments I've read in the mainstream media, however it's just a matter of time until they do. The divide-and-rule political game keeps people attached to ideology of left vs right until it becomes clear that we all lose by adhering to this mode of thinking.

The war racket and a whole range of other exploitative financial policies are driven by the top echelon of elites, who also control the narratives through media propaganda.

Their game is failing and they're resorting to draconian control measures to prop it up, but this can't continue much longer.

As I see it, the collapse of the Western financial system could happen suddenly or gradually, or it could bring the ultimate destruction of human civilization. In any case, I believe our degradation of the natural world will be the real catalyst leading either to human extinction; or else if we're lucky and smart enough, will induce us to massively downsize our population and industrial activity in order to let the ecosystem heal itself.

karlof1 , Jan 14 2021 19:14 utc | 10
Giraldi's current essay hits on numerous points already brought forth by b and barflies, and IMO is a very well balanced look at the outcome and possible road that lies ahead.

The citation he opens with IMO gets to the heart of the matter of what's been building since the 2000 election and its Judicial Coup:

"In a recent article Catholic University professor Claes G. Ryn wrote [Link at original]

"Few people are really open to persuasion in any case -- not just on political subjects but on any subject about which they care and on which they have adopted certain views. Diehard partisans for a certain outlook will refuse to have their beliefs questioned, and so will many others. They will be no less dismissive of a document challenging their opinions if it is full of footnotes and appendixes. Such a document will, indeed, make them resist it even more. As for the relatively few people who are truly open-minded, they will not find another person's observations dispositive. They will, as they should, want to consider the evidence on a contested matter for themselves."

We experience the above daily here at MoA. IMO, economic reality will alter the equation once the eviction and foreclosure restrictions end unless some very enlightened legislation is proposed and enacted.

Tom , Jan 14 2021 20:06 utc | 18

Rep Jason Crow (Dem Colo) "I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues. ... A couple of them broke down in tears ... saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment."

The only thing they (RINO's, the non Trumpers) are afraid of loosing is their seat on the gravy train express. They are afraid of loosing their seat at the sleaziest brothel in the world, totally bought and controlled by powerful interest groups and foreign governments with Israel being by far the biggest one that controls that chamber. There, fixed it for you Mr. Crow. Rep Crow could well end up eating crow when this is all over.

Kooshy , Jan 14 2021 20:13 utc | 19

IMO a large number of his supporters like Pat Lang don't care much for him or his policies specially his Israel first policies, majority are America first conservative nationalist they will look for someone else to lead and reorganize, that's when this divide will become dangerous and scary. IMO that is the only reason they really didn't damage the building or even hide themselves behind mask they are not afraid of being identified.
That is even more scary for those who hope there wouldn't be a civil uprising challenge the establishment .

AntiSpin , Jan 14 2021 20:14 utc | 20

"The hostility the Democrats have show will create a huge backlash. Do they really believe that can suppress 74 million Trump voters?"

They don't have to suppress 74 million Trump voters. They don't have to suppress any of the Trump voters. They just have to hold on to the 81 million Democratic voters, and will probably be joined by a relative handful of Republicans who, out of disgust and anger at Trump, will cross over and join the Democrats.

Of course, if the mass of everyday, relatively uninvolved Democratic voters finds out the truth about the true past and about the true intents and purposes of the Biden-Harris wrecking crew, it's possible that some small percentage of them will stop voting and/or switch to minor parties, but it's unlikely that such a small desertion will swing any election to the Republicans, especially if the Biden administration is smart enough and loose-fisted enough to toss a few financial crumbs to the mass of unfortunates who are staring homelessness and starvation in the face.

One result of the eight-year Obama administration was a small group of Democrats who did exactly that -- they walked away while the vast majority of registered Democrats ignored Obama's long list of crimes and misdemeanors and pretended not to see or to know of his lies and betrayals of the working class. So the principled deserters are already gone, and those left in the party are hard-core, thick-headed party-above-principle-in-all-things grifters and groupies who will stick to the party through all manner of thick and thin circumstances. They're not going to participate in any "backlash."

gottlieb , Jan 14 2021 20:17 utc | 21

The Democrats have proven themselves complete idiots for years and years and years. The Republicans are batshit crazy. The last election from the Democratic POV was to remove what they perceive as an existential threat to 'democracy' which is another word for 'deep state.' It is no wonder the rush to judgment to confirm what they already believe about DJT. Critical thinking and common sense are not attributes the elite political class possess. They are all vainglorious grifters.

The USA is FUBAR and none of the king's horses and none of the king's men etc. etc. etc.

Mike from Jersey , Jan 14 2021 21:20 utc | 28
"The Democrats aren't stupid."

I am not sure about that.

Russiagate, Ukrainegate and now Insurrectiongate convinced a lot of Americans - and not just Trump supporters - that the system is broken.

If they keep up with this lunacy, people will conclude that the system is - not just broken but - irrevocably broken.

At that point, even police state suppression won't help them.

fyi , Jan 14 2021 21:24 utc | 30

Mr. Kooshy

The Trump supporters do not care that he is a murderer and a scoundrel as well as yet another US President that started yet another war against a Muslim country.

They think that US can survive a centuries-long war against Islam.

That is a major flaw in their estimation of US power and fragility of what they have in the United States.

1.2 billion Muslims, 1.2 billion Chinese, and a 130 million Russians believing that the United States is their enemy.

No amount of domestic political change in the United States can address this.

In 1976, a 17-year old American boy could travel alone in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. without any fear; he would be welcome because of the correct foreign policy of the United States.

Americans have lost that and are discussing the deck arrangements on Titanic.

Norwegian , Jan 14 2021 21:30 utc | 32

@fyi | Jan 14 2021 21:24 utc | 30

In 1976, a 17-year old American boy could travel alone in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. without any fear; he would be welcome because of the correct foreign policy of the United States.

In Laos, Vietnam or Cambodia the "correct foreign policy of the United States" was in full display. The US was always a murderous monster. The only difference is that it has turned on itself.
Kooshy , Jan 14 2021 21:41 utc | 36

"The Trump supporters do not care that he is a murderer and a scoundrel as well as yet another US President that started yet another war against a Muslim country."

As you know this is not unique to trump supporters for as long as I have experienced this a fundamental group think in America. Americans from early school days are thought the you are "special" and "indispensable "
And "exceptional" they are thought never to accept or believe defeat never agree or accept "mistake" never agree or accept "lack of knowledge " this not just Trump is the entire nation' by now this group think is injected in sole of the nation on hourly bases. This people are just beginning to doubt or question their government' sincerity and its design while middle easterners never trust the government. It will eventually become more difficult for US governments to govern under the mistrust that is building up. New honest deal will be needed.

[Jan 14, 2021] And what if the election WAS stolen and the President's people can prove it?

Jan 14, 2021 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Bob Thompson 3 days ago

And what if the election WAS stolen and the President's people can prove it?

Then what?

paradoctor Bob Thompson 3 days ago

"If"? If dogs were cats, then they'd meow.

The President's people had over 60 chances to prove fraud to a judge. All failed.

Joe Norte paradoctor 3 days ago

Not so. The presidents team only filed 7 cases. the rest were third parties.

Of the 7 2 found rule changes should not have been done (PA, WI) but no judge was going to overturn results.

The dems weaponized mail in voting to benefit Biden. Were signatures checked in GA, PA, WI, MI?

One researcher found Fulton County, GA did 106,000 adjudications with a staff so small at an average rate of 30 seconds per adjudication they would have taken until jan 5 to do HALF of them.

When pressed on how this could be possible the GA secretary of State and Fulton County had no answers.

The Supreme Court also refused to hear both an original jurisdiction case AND a case by the President's own team in December which would have ruled on the constitutionality of PA's mail in ballots done without amending the state constitution.

[Jan 14, 2021] The problem with election fraud, of course, is that both political parties don't really want honest elections.

Jan 14, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

ian , Jan 14 2021 0:42 utc | 64

@pretzelattack "alaff, there's no evidence the election was stolen"

Why do people treat this like a court of law with a presumption of innocence? - "if there is no proof of wrongdoing, it must have been fair and honest".

Suppose someone demanded that you prove the election was honest? Could you do it? I know I couldn't.
It's not hard to imagine a system where you could prove that, however. It would require voter ID's, much stricter chain of custody for ballots and the ability for a voter to check how their vote was recorded and challenge it, if necessary. This is all perfectly possible technologically. If I can return something to a store 6 months after I bought it without a receipt and have them look up the visa purchase, we should be able to do this. The reason, of course, is that the political parties don't really want honest elections.

The whole thing reminds me a bit of that line in "The Sting" - "what do you expect me to do? challenge him in front of everyone for cheating better than me?"

Where I'm going is this: why _should_ I believe the election was honest? I simply don't know if it was, or wasn't. There won't be real confidence in elections until we provide better means of validating the results that are available to everyone. Simply saying "there was no evidence of fraud" won't be enough.

[Jan 13, 2021] The vote count data analysis in that vid is very enlightening and convincing. As if we need more convincing that the 2020 election was fraudulent.

Jan 13, 2021 | www.unz.com

whodat , says: January 12, 2021 at 8:08 am GMT • 20.2 hours ago

1:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/IKiyAy9vjrk?feature=oembed
2:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-fbi-claims-jurisdiction-yesterday-took-control-shredded-ballots-analyzed-georgia-sends-back-shredder/

GMike , says: January 12, 2021 at 8:37 pm GMT • 7.7 hours ago
@whodat

Thanks for the info. The vote count data analysis in that vid is very enlightening and convincing. As if we need more convincing that the 2020 election was fraudulent. But if you do or have acquaintances that still need convincing, watch the presentation.

[Jan 11, 2021] Dominion sues Trump lawyer Sidney Powell for defamation

There is nothing special about Dominion. The key question is whether computer based voting machines have the right to exist or not. Do they do any good or they are just unnessery and ripe with potential of new forms of fraud overhead, driven by unscrupulous lobbists? That is the question.
The ides of using consumer (or small business office, if you wish) class software and hardware in those machines is also open to review. Military class Sever have special OS (Trusted Solaris, OpenBSD, etc), special mechanism to prevent manipulation of binaries (md5 checksums, mirroring on non violate media, etc), special means to prevent abuse by rogue sysadmins (dual sysadmin mode necessary to become root, special access rules excluding areas that should not be manipulated (AppArmor), etc. Windows based servers an, desktops and tables are consumer class devices that can't be secured on public network to say nothing about election network where multiple powerful actors (including intelligence agencies; both foreign and domestic ) have strong stimulus to interfere. This is a struggle for power and it is typically dirty.
Venezuela is a weak point for Powell. As for "there was no widespread fraud in the election" your mileage may vary. Mail-in fraud almost certainly was "widespread" as in practiced in many battleground states. Weakening mail-in voting laws was a part of the scheme. What role direct manipulation of votes by appointed administrators (several at each precept and counting center (centralize counting is ripe area for fraud, especially good, old injection of votes, just due to total amount of votes processed), If they can act along without and external control this created several interesting questions, which needs to be answered by relevant tech investigations. Ability to scan the same batch of ballots several times, as several election observers complained, also needs to be blocked, and this is not an easy thing to do.
I have impression that when invalid ballot is adjudicated by the administrator a new ballot is printed. It looks like adjudication does not leave any paper trial or set of images to compare. That means that recount will not detect any manipulation. If true, that opens a wide field for manipulation of votes by rogue administrators including setting scanner to jekect more votes then nessesary creaing a pool of votes to manipulate. .
Jan 11, 2021 | apnews.com

She has claimed that the company was created in Venezuela to rig elections for the late leader Hugo Chavez and that it has the ability to switch votes.

There was no widespread fraud in the election, which a range of election officials across the country including Trump's former attorney general, William Barr, have confirmed. Republican governors in Arizona and Georgia, key battleground states crucial to Biden's victory, also vouched for the integrity of the elections in their states. Nearly all the legal challenges from Trump and his allies have been dismissed by judges, including two tossed by the Supreme Court, which includes three Trump-nominated justices.

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The company said there "there are mountains of direct evidence that conclusively disprove Powell's vote manipulation claims against Dominion -- namely, the millions of paper ballots that were audited and recounted by bipartisan officials and volunteers in Georgia and other swing states, which confirmed that Dominion accurately counted votes on paper ballots."

Dominion said that when it formally told Powell her claims were false and asked her to retract them, she "doubled down," using her Twitter account with more than 1 million followers to amplify the claims.

[Jan 11, 2021] Trump's blanket ban from social media proves the information war is over and neoliberals won by suppression of opposing side of election graud debate by Helen Buyniski

Like is several previous similar cases the just swiped the dirt under the rug
Jan 09, 2021 | www.rt.com
US President Donald Trump has been banned from most social media platforms, supposedly for inciting riots at the Capitol. But with no one capable of holding the tech behemoths to account, even fervent Trump-haters should worry.

Twitter permanently banned the president from its platform on Friday, following in the footsteps of Facebook, Snapchat, Twitch, and other platforms that used Wednesday's riot at the Capitol as an excuse to do what much of Silicon Valley has wanted to do for years.

But it wasn't Trump's on-platform conduct that was the problem, according to Twitter – it was "how [his tweets] are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter," a post on the company's blog declared on Friday. The platform then interpreted two seemingly innocuous tweets – regarding not attending Democrat President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration and giving his fans a "GIANT VOICE long into the future" – as a call to arms directed at his supporters, far out-crazying the so-called "conspiracy theorists" Twitter has also sought to deplatform.

ALSO ON RT.COM By banning Trump and his supporters, Google and Twitter are turning the US into a facsimile of the regimes we once condemned

Logically speaking, it's impossible for anyone – especially a public figure like Trump – to control how his words are being interpreted, or even who's reading them to begin with. For Twitter to translate the president's praise of his supporters and promise not to attend his successor's inauguration into a call for violence requires a full-on break with reality.

But platforms like Twitter, and especially Facebook, have been declaring all-out war on reality for years now, merely ramping up hostilities in the wake of the Capitol riot. On Facebook, even just sharing footage of Wednesday's riot was off-limits, as was posting Trump's speech to his supporters. Any call for further protests, no matter how peaceful, was also targeted for removal.

These platforms' notorious echo chambers have no room for dissenting narratives, whether it concerns the Capitol protests or the growing contingent of Covid-19 dissenters crying foul as lockdowns drag on (and cases go up) with no end in sight. And while a Trump-scale individual may be able to create their own means of addressing the people, thousands of others have been wiped out over the past year for political or public-health wrongthink.

The narrative managers are unlikely to stop at wiping their ideological nemeses off the internet, either.

ALSO ON RT.COM After Capitol Hill riots, children rat out their right-wing parents to the media

Perhaps emboldened by social media's iron-fisted approach to building its own alternate reality, New Jersey assemblyman Paul Moriarty has been lobbying cable TV providers to stop carrying conservative channels like Newsmax, OANN, and Fox News.

Missouri Senator Josh Hawley (R) had a book deal revoked for challenging the results of November's elections.

Social media, once sold as a tool for promoting democracy and giving ordinary people a voice they previously lacked, revealed its true identity over the course of 2020. Whether attempting to delete records of an entire event, as Facebook has done with the Capitol protests, or memory-holing inconvenient facts about the Covid-19 pandemic, the 'new and improved' reality crafted by the media establishment provides the ideal foundation for the police state being constructed around the human mind.

The average person might go through life unaware this invisible thought-barrier is even there – but anyone who steps out of line is quickly zapped back into obedience. And if they refuse to cooperate even then? Deplatforming, in an age where face-to-face contact has gone the way of the dodo, is the modern equivalent of 'disappearing' dissidents in broad daylight.

READ MORE Big Tech giants want to prove they are 'American gods'. Anyone watching the watchers? Big Tech giants want to prove they are 'American gods'. Anyone watching the watchers?

Indeed, these platforms have merged with government in too many ways to count here. Those who express political 'wrongthink' online aren't just disappeared from the digital public square – they can be barred from supposedly apolitical apps like AirBnB, or even denied the use of their bank accounts.

The US constitution does not permit the government to punish individuals who aren't even suspected of committing a crime. Nor does it permit the suppression of lawful speech or allow authorities to paw through private citizens' lives in the hope of turning up something incriminating. But private corporations – as the neoliberal center never tires of reminding us – can do what they like, including depriving Americans of their First and Fourth Amendment rights. Such capabilities explain why Washington has looked the other way for so many years while Facebook, Google, Twitter, and Amazon became preposterously huge, insanely profitable monopolies.

But the joke's on the government, in this case. With hundreds of billions of dollars at their disposal, and a user-base trained to embrace their mental slavery with a positively Pavlovian response, Big Tech seems to have realized it no longer has to pretend to play nice with Big Government.

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The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.


[Jan 11, 2021] Why mail-in voting is prohibited in Europe.

Jan 11, 2021 | www.unz.com

Reg Cæsar , says: January 11, 2021 at 8:53 am GMT • 7.8 hours ago

@Harry Huntington

No election with mail in voting in the US will ever work because everyone will assume fraud.

Which is why it is prohibited in Europe.

[Jan 09, 2021] Former CIA station chief does a great job explaining how the electronic election theft works

Jan 09, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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No_Pretzel_Logic 9 hours ago

Different topic but, this is good. Normally, I'm too impatient for videos however, this former CIA station chief does a great job explaining how the electronic election theft flowed.

ITALY and satellites! 13 min video Brad Johnson: Rome, Satellites, Servers: an Update - YouTube

[Jan 09, 2021] America's Color Revolution by Paul Craig Roberts

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

Peripatetic Itch , says: January 8, 2021 at 11:35 am GMT • 11.8 hours ago

Edward Solomon brilliantly reverse-engineers the election steal in Georgia:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3pVAKm8JqvU?feature=oembed

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-j3msC3EQ0-dxpbN2lsKQm_SoaRrvXSo/view


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/0jHZcVXz1hS7/

[Jan 09, 2021] In the USA election fraud is more of a tradition than incident.

Jan 09, 2021 | off-guardian.org

Maarten "merethan" , Jan 8, 2021 11:43 AM Reply to Leo Washington

Election fraud is more of a tradition than incident. Remember how we used to joke about "This presidency is brought to you by Diebold"? That was around the 2000's referring to Bush Jr., and Diebold is the vote machine manufacturer. That's just 20 years ago mate.

Calling election fraud a hilarious idea shows a good lack of historical perspective.

Leo Washington , Jan 8, 2021 12:30 PM Reply to Maarten "merethan"

Yeah, fair enough. Can we see some proof of this election fraud, then? And by 'proof', I don't mean 'someone said'. Because I can't help thinking that if there had been any proof, then every single 'lawsuit' would not have been laughed out of court. Or are the judges involved in this massive left-wing conspiracy, too? Jan 8, 2021 7:27 PM Reply to Leo Washington

Proof is all the problem: There's no proof of a fair election either. The current system was, in the old days, the only way to ensure votes were anonymous which is a requirement for having everyone express their true beliefs and allegiances, absent of any group pressure.

I'm all for enhancing this with cryptographic signatures and a public ledger. Such that everyone can validate their own vote and totals but not the one made by their spouse or neighbor specifically.

That would bring us a lot closer to the proof you are asking for, because right now we got none in either direction. Other than the media saying so and twitter banning you for daring to post any questions.

Ken Garoo , Jan 8, 2021 8:38 PM Reply to Maarten "merethan"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErDmO4xVkAELk_u?format=jpg&amp ;

Two trailing democract candidates brought to the lead at the same time and in the same proprtion by mail-in votes that are 100% democrat – what are the odds? (~0% in a straight election, ~100% in a bent election).

I would have the same view if the R and D attributions were reversed. The election was fixed.

Wayne Vanderploeg , Jan 8, 2021 10:55 PM Reply to Maarten "merethan"

The main point is that the fraud is so evident. Multiple witnesses. Examination of two machines. Not just a smoking gun with no witnesses. The government is too afraid to confront it out of fear of backlash. The backlash from not doing anything will be worse. Democrats keep wanting to unify now that Trump is out. They have done nothing but hinder him and our country because of lies being levied against him. No doubt the man has flaws but that is not justification for what they did during his presidency. And now the evidence of the steal. Combine that with trying to remove him to keep him from running again The shit just keeps getting deeper and deeper while they beg for unity. All of the sudden mayors across the country are vowing to bring back law and order now that Trump is out. I could go on and on. I cannot express how deeply the anger goes and it is not getting any better as Democratic leaders continue with derogatory statements all of which are lies. This is classic bullying and kicking someone who is down. It is truly a recipe for disaster.

[Jan 09, 2021] Dominion Files $1.3 Billion Defamation Lawsuit Against Sidney Powell.. Considering Suing President Trump

Jan 09, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

A lawyer for Dominion held a press conference on Friday claiming that claims that the allegations against them are "false."

"These false allegations have caused catastrophic damage to this company. They have branded Dominion, a voting company, as perpetrating a massive fraud," Tom Clare, the attorney representing Dominion, said in a press conference over Zoom. "Those allegations triggered a media firestorm that promoted those same false claims to a global audience. They've made the company radioactive and destroyed the value of its once thriving business and has put Dominion's multiyear contracts in jeopardy."

Smartmatic has also said that they will be filing lawsuits against people who questioned their technology and the "media outlets that gave them a platform."

To win the lawsuit, Dominion must prove that Powell was acting in "actual malice," and not sincere belief that they helped to rig the election against the president.

[Jan 09, 2021] Dominion releases the Kraken

Jan 09, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Christian J. Chuba , Jan 8 2021 21:44 utc | 62

Files $2B Lawsuit against Powell

I read the filing and THIS looks like read trouble for Powell. Unlike her incoherent filings, Dominion methodically rips apart Powell's false claims and more importantly establishes a timeline showing malicious intent which is the key in defamation. They show how she knowingly repeated falsehoods when it would benefit her financially.

[Jan 09, 2021] There was no question my vote would end up being exactly whatever the people who ran that machine wanted, and if that wasn't intuitive to most normies before this year, a lot know it now, even if they're in a relatively honest Red state part of the country.

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

That Would Be Telling , says:

[Jan 09, 2021] Legal Hatchet Man and Central Operative in the "Color Revolution" Against President Trump

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

SolontoCroesus , says: January 8, 2021 at 7:17 pm GMT • 4.1 hours ago

@SolontoCroesus exercise -- [is] a man by the name of Norm Eisen. . . .

". . .a key architect of nearly every attempt to delegitimize, impeach, censor, sue and remove the democratically elected 45th President of the United States – is a tale that winds through nearly every facet of the color revolution playbook. There is no purer embodiment of Revolver's thesis that the very same regime change professionals who run Color Revolutions on behalf of the US Government in order to undermine or overthrow alleged "authoritarian" governments overseas, are running the very same playbook to overturn Trump's 2016 victory and to pre-empt a repeat in 2020. "

[Jan 09, 2021] There is no reason to believe that this election was any more "stolen" than any other conducted in the US in the last seventy-five years. The oligarchical reign continues, unabated.

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

Rufus Clyde , says: January 8, 2021 at 8:07 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago

@Nisbe hey made out okay rail about the elite now that they've been given the bum's rush as a function of the global speculative rentier economy.

Your closing emission encapsulates the deluded mentality of Drumpfers.

I'll grant that Trump Derangement Syndrom is real, but that was the whole point of Drumpf. He's such an odious cretin that sentiment replaced all reason in a US electorate that exists on a political spectrum running from the right to the far-right, with ginned-up "moral" issues creating the divide, rather than quarelling over the dominance of economic equality or economic freedom in society.

The oligarchical reign continues, unabated.

Rufus Clyde , says: January 8, 2021 at 8:51 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@Trinity

Does it matter that a few people know what the score is? It's nearly fifty years since Operation Nickel Grass, when the US flew A-4 and F-4 aircraft right to Israel to shore up the colonial project, along with C-5 loads of TOW missiles, M60 tanks, etc., and people still think there is a representative democracy in the US.

[Jan 08, 2021] Full interview on voter machine code changes uploaded from Italy to Germany then USA.

Jan 08, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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I haven't heard much about this charge being made by Maria Zack that an affidavit was delivered yesterday concerning a whistleblower that allegedly was delivered to Kemp, Meadows. It's about frankfurt and dominion software shenangians. I figured Lin Wood would know about it if theres' anything here, but he's suspended from twitter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QBGiHZfOheI&feature=share

[Jan 08, 2021] When two neoliberal gangs fight for power, elections became the battleground and dirty tricks are abandant

Jan 08, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Jan 7 2021 15:58 utc | 117

"...the election wasn't "stolen". Down ballot republicans outperformed Trump. That's a really, really difficult way to steal an election..." Lex@85

The Republicans steal elections regularly. They do so by suppressing votes from poor and black areas, by disenfranchising millions of 'felons' (few of whom are actually guilty of felony) and gerrymandering House seats. Of course they also gerrymander electoral districts in the States too, which allows them to keep control.

The Democrats are no better. In fact they wrote the book on the arts of disenfranchisement, from Gerry to Daley. Their specialty is ballot box stuffing.

The big difference is that this year the Republicans were confident that the usual measures, which in the South include suppression of the black vote by intimidation, (something that shows in the low level of black participation in rural areas and small towns-where everyone knows what everyone else is doing and most employers are white) would do the trick. It generally does because the Democrats are not really interested in taking power at the State level or, for that matter, in Congress where-as the stimulus cheque and defence budget votes showed- they find it embarrassing when they have to choose their oligarch sponsors over their 'base. Obama was obviously relieved when in 2010 the Republicans swept the mid term elections and took the "Change" he had been elected on off the agenda. After that he just cruised through his last six years governing like his hero Reagan.

It is one of the most potent myths being manufactured by the media that the election this year was fair. It wasn't. The need for reform, beginning with the re-empowerment of the Civil Rights Act enforcement mechanisms, is something that must be imposed on the Democrats, who will fight against it because their control over the southern black vote depends on the maintenance of the current system.
And then there are the obvious and major Constitutional changes needed- the closing of the Electoral College system; the Senate, where it is possible for something like 20% of the electorate to control the majority of the 100 seats, has to be changed. Its current position is that of the British House of Lords in 1832.
All the sound and the fury of this very suspicious looking 'riot' shouldn't be allowed to block out the reality which is that, Trump or Biden, nothing is changed. The Biden administration is likely to be every bit as bad as Trump's, only the media will love it.
In the real world there is frustration. And it is entirely justified-living standards are plummeting and pessimism about the future is prevalent. But revolutions don't come from anger they come from reform movements stymied: when people realise that the only hope of any change is complete change-revolution- and feel ready to take the reins of power into their own hands, that is when revolutions occur.
"Realise" is the key word. Political consciousness means understanding of reality, not belief in weird and unsupportable theories whether they involve God or The Jews or oligarchical cabals intent on buying up small businesses by inventing pandemics or secret moves to smuggle microchips into brains to turn humanity into zombies. And the reality is that we live in a capitalist empire dominated by the determination of the exploiting class to protect its system from the threat, long understood but only ever realised episodically, of democracy. Of equality. Of liberty and treating each other as the siblings, parents and children that we all are.

[Jan 07, 2021] Two places have stated that "thousands" used their addresses as "residence"

Jan 07, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Stonebird , Jan 7 2021 7:52 utc | 27

Even in the recent election for the Georgia senate there were "irregularities". Two places have stated that "thousands" used their addresses as "residence", and demanded ballots. One is connected to Emmaus, on Twitter, don't know if I can still find a reference. 4'700 votes have been mentioned elsewhere. Not a lot but it does indicate problems.

[Jan 06, 2021] The Extremist at Dominion Voting Systems by Darryl Cooper

And Microsoft stooges claims 2020 was 'most secure election in American history' says DHS advisory council, claims NO EVIDENCE of lost or deleted votes
Notable quotes:
"... A Twitter user named Joe Oltmann had tweeted a few screenshots of a Facebook user posting Antifa manifestos and songs about killing police. The Facebook account belonged to Eric Coomer, and Oltmann claimed it was the same Eric Coomer who is the Director of Product Strategy and Security for Dominion Voting Systems. Within hours of Oltmann posting the information, however, the Facebook page of Eric Coomer was taken down, so I was unable to verify that Antifa Coomer and Dominion Coomer were the same person. By the end of the day, Joe Oltmann's Twitter account was suspended as well. I had followed his feed throughout the day. I can say with certainty that he posted nothing remotely offensive or provocative. I have no doubt whatsoever that Twitter suspended him for posting the screenshots of Coomer's Facebook page. Interesting. ..."
"... Of course none of this proves any fraud took place, but we deserve some answers ..."
"... Having potentially tens of millions of people doubting results in a half-dozen different states thanks to the same company running machines in all of them is an unprecedentedly serious problem, whether or not their doubts are well-founded. ..."
"... platforms like Twitter and WordPress would do well to consider that censorship of people discussing Dominion and its employees is likely to have the opposite effect that they think it will ..."
"... in Georgia the voter signature validation was usurped for mail in ballots, allowing anyone with a mail in ballot to vote. ..."
"... There are ample undercover videos of union postal workers selling mail in ballots. ..."
"... The secretary of state usurped the law in Georgia, telling polling places to ignore the requirement to verify signatures of mail in ballots. The signatures are compared to the drivers license database. The democrats (Stacey Abrams) worked with the secretary of state to have such voting controls removed so the system could be easily frauded. ..."
"... if you think the cost of recounts is high, wait till you get a load of the cost of the electorate's lack of confidence in the election process. That cost will be measured in human lives. ..."
"... But the Russians! Not my President. Resistance. Years of investigations into gossip columnist Steele's paid report to the Democrats. ..."
Jan 06, 2021 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Whether or not the company's machines were misused, it poses structural risks, and suppressing criticism will make Trump supporters even more dubious

t is unlikely that many of the 73 million people who cast ballots for Donald Trump in 2020 will ever accept the legitimacy of his loss. Who could convince them? If the media sources demanding Trump's concession held any sway with Trump's voters, they would not have been his voters. They do not know for sure that the election was stolen, but they do know with apodictic certainty that the media would lie to them if it was. So if Donald Trump says the election was stolen, that's good enough for the Deplorables.

Yet even the President's most faithful must have flinched at his recent tweet accusing a leading manufacturer of voting machines of committing election fraud on a mass scale.

It is hard to overstate the irresponsibility of broadcasting such a serious accusation without proof. It shocked me, and my startle response has become pretty desensitized over the last four years. Sure, it turned out Trump was right when he accused the Obama administration of spying on his 2016 campaign, but this is different. Dominion Voting Systems is not staffed with Obama appointees, after all. I decided to poke around a bit to see what, if anything, could possibly be behind Trump's wild accusation.

A Twitter user named Joe Oltmann had tweeted a few screenshots of a Facebook user posting Antifa manifestos and songs about killing police. The Facebook account belonged to Eric Coomer, and Oltmann claimed it was the same Eric Coomer who is the Director of Product Strategy and Security for Dominion Voting Systems. Within hours of Oltmann posting the information, however, the Facebook page of Eric Coomer was taken down, so I was unable to verify that Antifa Coomer and Dominion Coomer were the same person. By the end of the day, Joe Oltmann's Twitter account was suspended as well. I had followed his feed throughout the day. I can say with certainty that he posted nothing remotely offensive or provocative. I have no doubt whatsoever that Twitter suspended him for posting the screenshots of Coomer's Facebook page. Interesting.

Searching around some more, I found that Dominion Coomer is an avid climber who used to post frequently on climbing message boards under his own name. He confirmed it himself in a post where he mentioned getting his nuclear physics Ph.D from Berkeley in 1997. Dominion's Eric Coomer received his nuclear physics Ph.D from Berkeley in 1997. In another post on the same message board, Coomer gave out his email address. It was his old campus address from the Berkeley nuclear physics department. I plugged that email address into the Google machine, and things got weird.

I found Eric Coomer had a long history of posting on websites for skinheads. He was a heavy user of a Google Group for skinheads, and seems to have possibly been a content moderator for papaskin.com. Only these aren't the neo-Nazis our mothers warned us about. These skinheads call themselves SHARPs, or Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice. Think of them as a sort of punk rock Antifa. In 2012, roughly 18 SHARPs attacked a smaller group of suspected racists in a Chicago restaurant with bats and batons. That same year, three neo-Nazis were charged for the 1998 double murder of two SHARPs in Nevada.

Given that Dominion's Director of Security and Strategy, Eric Coomer, was an enthusiast of a street fighting anti-racist skinhead culture going back at least into the 1990s, it seems very likely that Joe Oltmann was correct in identifying him as the Facebook user recently endorsing Antifa and posting anti-police rhetoric. I shared this information on a few message boards to let other people run with it. Within hours, Papa Skin, a skinhead website which had been up for over 20 years, was taken offline. (Whoever took it down missed the FAQ page, you can find it here http://www.papaskin.com/faq/faqs.html ).

Of course none of this proves any fraud took place, but we deserve some answers. One need only imagine if it was Joe Biden contesting the election results, and the Director for Strategy & Security at a major voting machine provider turned out to be a Proud Boy with decades of involvement in extremist, even violent, right wing political groups. Democrats would rightly point out that this person endorses engaging in illegal behavior to achieve political goals. They would ask how such a person ended up in such an important position of public trust, and what it might say about the procedures in place to ensure Dominion's responsibilities are handled in good faith.

Another reality of the Dominion fiasco, whether or not there was any fraud using its machines, is the structural risk created by having the same company run machines in more than two dozen states. If there were glitchy machines causing a dispute in one state, like Democrats' claims about Diebold machines in Ohio in 2004, and even if that dispute led to competing slates of electors, that is something the American political system has seen and withstood before. Having potentially tens of millions of people doubting results in a half-dozen different states thanks to the same company running machines in all of them is an unprecedentedly serious problem, whether or not their doubts are well-founded.

Moreover, platforms like Twitter and WordPress would do well to consider that censorship of people discussing Dominion and its employees is likely to have the opposite effect that they think it will: Twitter bans, site removals, and wiping of bios from websites are only going to make Trump's hardcore supporters think Dominion has something to hide. You can't make disagreements go away by banning one side and pretending there is unanimity.

Darryl Cooper is the host of the MartyrMade podcast.


Kiyoshi01 8 days ago

This claim is fairly easy to check. The machine prints out a paper record that is viewable by the voter and saved for purposes of auditing.

JPH Kiyoshi01 8 days ago

Actually voting is not audited as any accountant will be able to confirm.

HistoryProf JPH 8 days ago

Every state that I am aware of conducts random spot audits of election results.

JPH HistoryProf 8 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
You may have to work on your awareness. And a full audit of the whole process is definitely a lot more than some random spot.

HistoryProf JPH 8 days ago

The list you just linked showed that most states conduct routine audits of races. The only states that don't seem to are deep red ones. Spot audits are a valid way of discovering errors. If every state had to do full recounts for every single race, the cost to taxpayers would be enormous and wasteful.

Herb Daniels HistoryProf 8 days ago

...Places like Georgia where Ds destroyed the system by actually eliminating audit... they just run exactly the same fake ballots through they ran the first time... & they had a 'signature verification' & they didn't even turn the machine on.

TJ Hessmon Kerr Avon 6 days ago • edited

There are three obvious methods of election fraud occurring in 2020

1) canvasing, where those canvasing voters holding mail in ballots are convincing them to change their vote from republican to democrat, then paying them with what amounts to trinkets. (flash light, pocket knife, tee shirt, those sorts of things)

2) Voting machine weighted votes, which occurs in republican heavy precincts using the Banzhaf Power Index. This system counts votes in decimals less than and greater than one for each vote. An example would be weighting republican votes where each republican vote would count 0.75, meaning 4 voters are necessary to achieve a vote of 3. (1.5 + 1.5 = 3), the weighted scale increases as the number of votes increase. This is known as vote redistribution. In essence a system such as this cold require(at 0.25) 200k republican votes to equal 50k democrat votes

3) Mail in ballots which are rife with fraud of many types

wernerpd Dan Penrod 3 days ago

That's not reality for SCOTUS. They don't make those kinds of rulings. What I would expect from a majority opinion if they believed there was substantive fraud that was sufficient to overturn the election results, would go like this: "Based upon the quantity and quality of indicia for illegal ballots being counted, it is the opinion of the court that states X,Y,Z, etc., cannot certify their election results based upon the election held on 3 NOV 20. Accordingly, this case is remanded to the respective state legislatures for cure."

So what can the state legislatures do in accordance with Article II and the 12th Amendment? They can try to do a revote, but that is nearly impossible given the time constraints required by law. They can in many of these states appoint electors independently of the vote held on 3 NOV 20. Keep in mind, not every state permits such a role for the legislature. I don't see that happening, since the **perception** will be that they disenfranchised all of the state's voters. The only logical outcome is all of those respective states will not be able to certify their elections. As such, the 12th Amendment is instructive here. At that point, Congress will decide who becomes president. This also happened in the 1801 and 1825. Each state delegation gets exactly **one** vote. Since republicans control 26 of the 50 state delegations, you can guess how that vote might tilt.

Food for thought.

409 Biscayne Sleeper Kerr Avon 2 days ago

Isn't that preciously what your radical Dem brothers and sisters are up to hoping to snag the Senate via Georgia on Jan 4th so that a one party America exists indefinitely? You are "projecting" what your ilk is actually hoping to accomplish. 'Jeepers', yeah jeepers is right. Nice try though.

TJ Hessmon Charles 6 days ago

You may want to read the complaint and resulting law suit filed by Lin Wood related to Georgia mail in ballots. It eliminates your assumptions with fact. Yes, in Georgia the voter signature validation was usurped for mail in ballots, allowing anyone with a mail in ballot to vote. There are ample undercover videos of union postal workers selling mail in ballots. Further there are many cases where mail in ballots were requested then the voter showed up at the polls to physically vote. The voter indicating they had never requested a mail in ballot. Plenty of documented cases, all you need do is look past you keyboard and tater chip bag...

TJ Hessmon Herb Daniels 6 days ago

The secretary of state usurped the law in Georgia, telling polling places to ignore the requirement to verify signatures of mail in ballots. The signatures are compared to the drivers license database. The democrats (Stacey Abrams) worked with the secretary of state to have such voting controls removed so the system could be easily frauded.

TJ Hessmon tai 6 days ago

Audits will work if cross auditing is randomly performed and auditors have the authority to either close the polls or invalidate the poll count based upon their discoveries.

glasshalfful HistoryProf 8 days ago

Cmpared to the Muller investigation, you mean waste of money like that? :)

TJ Hessmon HistoryProf 6 days ago • edited

Austin Texas = Kelly Reagan Brunner who was working at a Supported Living Center for senior citizens has been arrested and charged with more than 100 counts of voter fraud. (She was canvassing and changing votes).

Wisconsin
3,170,206 votes counted
3,129,ooo Registered Voters.

Erie county elections, Poll worker posts on twitter about him throwing out Trump votes.

7 Wards in Milwaukee report more votes than actual registered voters

Republican poll watchers prevented from entering Detroit poll counting center. official states COVID 19 as their reason.

MIT scientists find objective evidence of vote tallies being forced negatively away for the statistical mean by vote software. This was discovered in several states.

And on and on and on .........a landslide of objective evidence.

Riccardo Palagi HistoryProf 6 days ago

I'll tell you what Prof., if you think the cost of recounts is high, wait till you get a load of the cost of the electorate's lack of confidence in the election process. That cost will be measured in human lives.

donthomson1 HistoryProf 4 days ago

But the Russians! Not my President. Resistance. Years of investigations into gossip columnist Steele's paid report to the Democrats.

How could anybody with a brain in their head have ever taken Steele seriously? OK, he did speak to a Yank who was once a Russian.

There was also a news aggregator run by Russians just as there are others run by other humans. Only racists think that free speech should be restricted to Yanks. [email protected]

Denace The Menace HistoryProf 8 days ago • edited

Have you not been paying attention? The Dems states threw all election safeguards/checks and balances in the garbage like the USPS workers did, and some claim poll workers did. Experts have done audits of the voting in swing states/counties and found highly improbable vote counts......So.......

UncleDirtNap Denace The Menace 8 days ago

You mean like:

Georgia

President US Senate Differential
Trump 2,457,880 Purdue 2,458,665 -785
Biden 2,472,002 Ossoff 2,372,086 +99,916

That's closer to impossible than improbable and a discrepancy only a leftist could accept as real.

RepublicanDon Kiyoshi01 8 days ago

They also export data in JSON to media outlets. The JSON files showed interesting anomalies.

[Jan 06, 2021] When using electronic voting machines you do not vote. Election workers do not count the votes by Robert Willmann

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... From 4 November 2020, the day after the election, until he left office on 23 December, Attorney General William Barr did nothing about electoral problems. The DOJ could have started grand juries in multiple suspect states when anamolies began to appear the week of the election, but did zero. When President Trump nominated Barr on 7 December 2018, I was very surprised, because of some of Barr's prior legal positions and associations. But that is another story. ..."
"... At the time of the 2020 election, mail-in and absentee voting had been greatly expanded, which has led to massive problems and some discussion. But the biggest danger which has received little exposure in mass media is in electronic voting and counting machines. In an electronic voting machine, the hidden electronic processes become the ballot -- not "your ballot" -- and the tabulation of ballots is also done by hidden electronic processes. No audit trail is possible. If a machine prints out a receipt with a bar code on it, that is not a ballot and it cannot be part of an audit. An audit requires original documents and items for every step in a process. ..."
"... The voting machine companies like to say their computer software code is "proprietary" and cannot be made public, and the stupid state and local governments seem to go along with it. Even if software source code is revealed in secret to a state agency, it can be changed later to permit fraud, and the governments will not know it. ..."
"... The problem of electronic voting machines was started and promoted nationwide in 2002 by Congress in the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) [3]. It promised states federal tax money if the states would implement some of its laughable "standards". Around 2004 or so, a group in San Antonio talked to me about the machines and a legal case, and I drafted a lawsuit paper to file and obtained an expert witness. But then the county's governing body offered them some money to educate voters about electronic voting machines, and they decided to not proceed with a case. At that time, the county election administration had electronic machines, and a maintenance contract that was expensive, but nothing remotely like the racket that exists today. Electronic voting machines are big business. Georgia paid at least $100 million for the Dominion voting machines it used in the 2020 elections, and New Jersey may pay from $60 to $80 million dollars or more to update its voting machines [4]. ..."
"... Peter Navarro is an Assistant to President Trump and Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, where he has consistently tried to rebuild domestic manufacturing and jobs, and cancel existing bad policies that favored China over U.S. jobs and industry. He has written two excellent booklets about problems with the 2020 presidential election. "The Immaculate Deception: Six Key Dimensions of Election Irregularities", and "The Art of the Steal: Volume 2 of the Navarro Report" [5] ..."
"... Election management systems, starting with Diebold, were it appears, specifically designed to do just that; manage elections. That this started in the export market as a foreign policy tool and has now come home to roost is all too symptomatic of other such dark practices, such as the information warfare and PSYOPS we are seeing much in evidence in what is left of politics in America. The resultant corrosive effect on democracy is near terminal - how many Trump supporters will believe a Warnock win was fair? ..."
"... As of this writing it looks like the election theft system put in place in Georgia is working as planned to ensure a Uniparty victory for the Democrats. The GOP will of course blame Trump and his supporters and go back to rolling in the grift over to Landslide Joe and the woman who couldn't win a single delegate. ..."
Jan 06, 2021 | turcopolier.typepad.com

When using electronic voting machines you do not vote. Election workers do not count the votes.

Everybody knows that a valid election has three parts: qualified, eligible voters are listed; an eligible voter expresses a legal vote on a ballot; and the votes are counted accurately. For a small organization or club, this is easy. All the candidates and voters are in one room and everybody knows everyone else. Each member writes the name of their choice on a piece of paper and folds it over, the votes are put in a box, and then the votes are opened and counted in front of everybody. Everything is done in the same room. A local, state, or national election has the same parts, but with many more voters, and voting and counting locations, it is spread out over a much bigger area. Many things are a system, including your cardiovascular system [1]. But since an election as a system is created by people, it is amateurish and simple compared to the sophisticated cardiovascular system. Despite its simplicity, there is little or no "transparency", today's trendy term. Because of human nature and the money and authority available through a government, an enormous incentive is created to rig and cheat in an election.

Documents attached to various lawsuits, other information, and the blocking of public examination of ballots and electronic voting and counting machines are showing huge problems and fraud in the November 2020 general election in an amount that can affect the result. But those with the authority to do the most the fastest are so far doing nothing, from the federal Department That Calls Itself Justice (DOJ), to local District Attorneys.

The Attorney General and the U.S. Attorneys in the 94 federal districts have a lightening bolt in their hands. Federal grand jury subpoenas are nationwide in scope. A grand jury does not just issue formal criminal charges, it can also investigate, under the age-old rationale that "the public is entitled to every man's evidence". Unlike the FBI, which is required by policy to have a factual "predicate" before it can open an investigation, a grand jury is in no way limited. The U.S. Supreme Court in 1992 made clear that "the grand jury can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not" [2]--

"The grand jury's functional independence from the Judicial Branch is evident both in the scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing and in the manner in which that power is exercised. Unlike [a] [c]ourt, whose jurisdiction is predicated upon a specific case or controversy, the grand jury can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not. It need not identify the offender it suspects, or even the precise nature of the offense it is investigating. The grand jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses, and deliberates in total secrecy" [citations in this passage are omitted].

From 4 November 2020, the day after the election, until he left office on 23 December, Attorney General William Barr did nothing about electoral problems. The DOJ could have started grand juries in multiple suspect states when anamolies began to appear the week of the election, but did zero. When President Trump nominated Barr on 7 December 2018, I was very surprised, because of some of Barr's prior legal positions and associations. But that is another story.

At the time of the 2020 election, mail-in and absentee voting had been greatly expanded, which has led to massive problems and some discussion. But the biggest danger which has received little exposure in mass media is in electronic voting and counting machines. In an electronic voting machine, the hidden electronic processes become the ballot -- not "your ballot" -- and the tabulation of ballots is also done by hidden electronic processes. No audit trail is possible. If a machine prints out a receipt with a bar code on it, that is not a ballot and it cannot be part of an audit. An audit requires original documents and items for every step in a process.

The voting machine companies like to say their computer software code is "proprietary" and cannot be made public, and the stupid state and local governments seem to go along with it. Even if software source code is revealed in secret to a state agency, it can be changed later to permit fraud, and the governments will not know it.

The problem of electronic voting machines was started and promoted nationwide in 2002 by Congress in the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) [3]. It promised states federal tax money if the states would implement some of its laughable "standards". Around 2004 or so, a group in San Antonio talked to me about the machines and a legal case, and I drafted a lawsuit paper to file and obtained an expert witness. But then the county's governing body offered them some money to educate voters about electronic voting machines, and they decided to not proceed with a case. At that time, the county election administration had electronic machines, and a maintenance contract that was expensive, but nothing remotely like the racket that exists today. Electronic voting machines are big business. Georgia paid at least $100 million for the Dominion voting machines it used in the 2020 elections, and New Jersey may pay from $60 to $80 million dollars or more to update its voting machines [4].

Before the 2008 general election, I wrote an editorial about problems with electronic voting machines to the main newspaper in Bexar County, Texas, which had a population at that time of about 1,622,899. It was accepted for publication, but then I was told that a person higher up at the paper ordered it killed and that it not be published, because it was "too controversial".

Two years ago I wrote an article on the issue, emphasizing that the electronic machines were more of a problem than the hot issue of the day, voter identification cards. But since then, I have changed my opinion because absentee and mail-in voting have greatly expanded to the point where voter ID and verification is now just as big a problem as the electronic voting and counting machines are.

Peter Navarro is an Assistant to President Trump and Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, where he has consistently tried to rebuild domestic manufacturing and jobs, and cancel existing bad policies that favored China over U.S. jobs and industry. He has written two excellent booklets about problems with the 2020 presidential election. "The Immaculate Deception: Six Key Dimensions of Election Irregularities", and "The Art of the Steal: Volume 2 of the Navarro Report" [5]:

Congress is to meet on Wednesday, 6 January 2021 to count electoral votes from the meetings of the Electoral College on 14 December 2020. The National Archives is involved first [6]

"The Office of the Federal Register (OFR) is a part of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) and, on behalf of the Archivist of the United States, coordinates certain functions of the Electoral College between the States and Congress. Acting as an intermediary, it reviews the Certificates of Ascertainment and Vote before Congress accepts them as evidence of official State action in preparation for the counting of electoral votes in Congress".

The National Archives Internet website also has information from its work on the 2020 election, and links to the certificates of each Electoral College meeting from the states [7].

Some members of Congress are posturing or squirming as problems with the election have not gone away in favor of business as usual. But resistance on the big day of 6 January to voting fraud requires that the member put his or her name to a writing objecting to the electoral votes from the six most problematic states: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada.

But under the cover provided by media publicity, the vapid statements of 12 Senators are loaded with mushy language. Senator Josh Hawley (Repub. Missouri) says he will:

"... object to highlight the failure of some states, including notably Pennsylvania [but not others?], to follow their own election laws .... He will call for Congress to launch a full investigation of potential fraud and election irregularities and enact election integrity measures" [8].

Republican Senators Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wisconsin), James Lankford (Oklahoma), Steve Daines (Montana), John Kennedy (Louisiana), Marsha Blackburn (Tennessee), and Mike Braun (Indiana), and Senators-Elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyoming), Roger Marshall (Kansas), Bill Hagerty (Tennessee), and Tommy Tuberville (Alabama) in their statement bloviate for 12 paragraphs before saying--

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed" [9].

They then say,

"We are not naive. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise".

Yes, you are not naive, but you are con-men and con-women. You declare that:

"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed".

So, Senator Ted Cruz et. al. You think you are going to set up a commission, after detailing in writing its "investigatory and fact-finding authority", and carefully audit the "election returns" in the form of millions of votes. All in 10 days, by the 20th of January.

And you 12 bulls**t artists said an audit would be only of "election returns", and would not include a forensic examination of thousands of electronic voting machines, when so far their manufacturers, along with governors and state election officials, have constantly worked to block any examination or monitoring of them. In case you Senators do not know it, computer software on an electronic voting machine operates secretly with zero transparency.

U.S. Representative Mo Brooks (Repub. Alabama) stepped up to the plate and has been in the forefront challenging the election results and the resulting Electoral College votes. He has said that more than 36 members of the House have signed to dispute the voting results in the six states in question.

Brooks then exposed the 12 strutting senators plus Senator Kelly Loeffler (Repub. Georgia) as snakes in the grass, since as of the time of his writing, only three have actually signed onto an objection, and that was to only one state apiece and not to all six states: Cruz has objected to Arizona, Hawley has objected to Pennsylvania, and Loeffler has objected to Georgia [10].

The only solution is for all votes to be on paper ballots that are counted by hand, and for Congress to repeal the Help America Vote Act.

The subject known as industrial engineering deals with designing the physical actions that are to be used to do a particular task. The military and intelligence agencies have developed procedures to create, handle, and transmit information in a secure way. High resolution cameras are now inexpensive with multiple features and can be used in vehicles [11]. You can carefully select a print shop to print the ballots, with controls and cameras to monitor their placement at polling places.

These resources can create a legitimate paper-based election system, and will not cost $100 million or more for electronic machines for one state.

The German Constitutional Court declared electronic voting machines illegal in March 2009 [12].

Congress is the culprit pushing and providing money to promote electronic voting machines starting with the HAVA law in 2002. Politicians and bureaucracies do not want to admit they were wrong or made a mistake.

When electronic voting machines are used, voters no longer mark their ballots. Local election officials no longer count them. Devices created and programmed out of public view do it. No genuine recount or audit is possible. Any fraud is undetectable, or almost so after a time-consuming examination.

The perfect crime, except it is not a crime.

It is all legal, or so the U.S. Congress has tried to say.

And no voting procedures -- including the use of electronic voting and counting machines -- were changed before the runoff elections for two U.S. Senators in Georgia on 5 January.

[1] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/multimedia/circulatory-system/vid-20084745

[2] United States v. Williams, 504 U.S. 36 (1992). Part III-A discusses a grand jury in general on pages 47-50 (pdf pages 12-15). https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/us_vs_williams_504_us_36_grand_jury.pdf

[3] Public Law 107-252, signed into law on 29 October 2002. Title 52, U.S. Code, chapter 209. Election Administration Improvement.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title52/subtitle2/chapter209&edition=prelim

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/3295/all-info

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ252/PLAW-107publ252.pdf

[4] https://www.njspotlight.com/2020/12/replacing-nj-voting-machines-costly-complicated-closed-market-few-companies-hidden-costs-security-hacking /

[5] https://navarroreport.com

[6] https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college?_ga=2.196228716.1131830736.1609885856-1366421279.1609885856

[7] 2020 Electoral College information from the Office of the Federal Register and the National Archives.

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020?_ga=2.154729080.1131830736.1609885856-1366421279.1609885856

[8] https://www.hawley.senate.gov/sen-hawley-will-object-during-electoral-college-certification-process-jan-6

[9] https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=5541

[10] U.S. Representative Mo Brooks on the status of objections to Electoral College results as of Tuesday afternoon, 5 January 2021.

https://twitter.com/RepMoBrooks/status/1346559504058638344

[11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxAyd6cqq6s

[12] Decision of the German Constitutional Court declaring the use of electronic voting machines to be illegal.

https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Entscheidungen/EN/2009/03/cs20090303_2bvc000307en.html


Deap , 05 January 2021 at 09:24 PM

A few things still trouble me that don't appear in any later dicussions of this topic, including this very good one:

  1. The fact just about every other European country and other industrialized nations now prohibit 'electronic voting" in their federal elections, due to inherent ability to corrupt outcomes. Claims "electronic voting" undermines election integrity and thereby voter trust. Which they seem to value more than the US.
  2. Hilary Clinton's recovered email around the time of the Haiti earthquake where she touts the use of Dominion Voting Systems to someone else, because she assured them they provide "very happy results".

Buckeyelad , 05 January 2021 at 09:31 PM

Thank you, Robert! Straight and to the point. We need to change this, starting right now.

Barbara Ann , 05 January 2021 at 11:27 PM

An excellent post Mr Willmann. I wholeheartedly agree with your views on electronic vote counting, the words "voting" and "machine" must be separated, for good.

Election management systems, starting with Diebold, were it appears, specifically designed to do just that; manage elections. That this started in the export market as a foreign policy tool and has now come home to roost is all too symptomatic of other such dark practices, such as the information warfare and PSYOPS we are seeing much in evidence in what is left of politics in America. The resultant corrosive effect on democracy is near terminal - how many Trump supporters will believe a Warnock win was fair?

As your personal experience attests, interest in free and fair elections can be trumped by cold hard cash. And rather than be innocently unaware of the implications of introducing electronic voting, at least some state authorities seem to have been suspiciously desperate to get systems put in with no regard for conducting the appropriate due diligence.

The "much bigger area" you describe is a logistical headache, but last I checked liberty wasn't easily achieved. In the recent Federal elections I am reading that this area may extend out all the way to Rome. More on that will come out soon perhaps.

I too was puzzled by Barr & the DOJ's inaction wrt evident widespread election fraud...

Fred , 06 January 2021 at 09:30 AM

As of this writing it looks like the election theft system put in place in Georgia is working as planned to ensure a Uniparty victory for the Democrats. The GOP will of course blame Trump and his supporters and go back to rolling in the grift over to Landslide Joe and the woman who couldn't win a single delegate.

[Jan 06, 2021] Congress Turns Electoral-Vote Ritual Into Bitter Fight on Biden questionable legitimacy

The Capitol building was placed on lockdown, with senators and members of the House locked inside their chambers, as Congress began debating President-elect Joe Biden's victory. President Trump addressed supporters near the White House before protesters marched to Capitol Hill.
Jan 06, 2021 | www.bloomberg.com

...the action hardens the bitter partisanship in Congress and is bound to leave millions of voters questioning the legitimacy of Biden's victory in the November presidential election.

... More than a thousand people gathered at a park south of the White House before dawn on Wednesday. At least three separate pro-Trump rallies are expected in Washington. Lawmakers have been given security instructions, including using underground tunnels between chambers in the Capitol and to nearby office buildings. The city of Washington has activated the National Guard, and many local businesses boarded up their doors and windows in anticipation of possible violence

The lawmakers objecting on Wednesday are poised to form the core of the anti-Biden group in the new Congress, where they will likely urge GOP leaders to refuse any deals with a president they consider illegitimate.

... Josh Hawley, a Republican of Missouri, was the first senator to indicate that he would join the effort to challenge the results. Since then, several other senators, including Ted Cruz of Texas and GOP Republicans elected to the chamber for the first time in November, have indicated they would support the effort unless there is an investigation of the voting process.

[Jan 06, 2021] Reports- Dominion Machines Breaking Down in Several Georgia GOP Precincts; Voters Told Workers Will Scan Ballots Later

Jan 06, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Reports: Dominion Machines Breaking Down in Several Georgia GOP Precincts; Voters Told Workers Will Scan Ballots Later By Kristinn Taylor
Published January 5, 2021 at 11:05am
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Georgia radio host John Fredricks said several voters in Republican precincts called his show Tuesday morning and told him that they were unable to cast their votes in the state's runoff election due to malfunctions by Dominion machines. The callers said workers at the polls told them to put their ballots in a box, telling them their ballots would be scanned later.

Fredericks spoke about the problems reported by voters during an appearance on Steve Bannon's War Room Pandemic.

Gabriel Sterling announced a problem in Columbia County, "Some issues in Columbia Co. There was a programming error on security keys for some locations scanners & pollworker cards. Voting continues on backup emergency ballots. Newly programmed keys&cards are being taken to locations via law enforcement."

First hand claim posted to Twitter by a voter in the city of Covington in Newton County, "Just voted in Newton County Georgia. Heavy republican district.. When I went to place my printed ballot into the dominion machine, the poll worked said the scanner was broken and someone was coming to fix it, I placed it in the machine slot but not in the scanner.

First hand claim posted to Twitter by a voter in the city of Covington in Newton County, "Just voted in Newton County Georgia. Heavy republican district.. When I went to place my printed ballot into the dominion machine, the poll worked said the scanner was broken and someone was coming to fix it, I placed it in the machine slot but not in the scanner.

A voter in Sandy Springs in Fulton County, "Just voted in #Georgia runoff & of course in heavily @GOP precinct at HeardsFerry -- Sandy Springs #Dominion scanners "are down." This means @TheDemocrats activist now will be in charge of scanning my vote for @sendavidperdue & @KLoeffler @BrianKempGA @KLoeffler @GabrielSterling"

A second hand account posted to Twitter, "A friend just texted in Georgia that the Dominion voting machine in Troup County is jammed. They put his ballot in a box and said they'd scan it later. The steak (sic) is back on!"

My family in GA trying to vote this morning. Was told that machines are "down" and he has to vote provisional. Here's the catch: Machines are NOT down in Democrat county. Just the Repub Co. Columbia county It's a Republican-majority county. People forced to vote with provisional ballots and told to check online later to see if the vote was counted. Next county over is Richmond Co, a Democrat-majority county, with machines that are working just fine."

More: Spalding County: "SPAULDING (sic) COUNTY, GA: Spoke with a woman who went to vote at 7am this morning. She & other voters were told the #dominion machines were down. They were not given emergency paper ballots & were told to come later. Some voters unable to come back due to work. @RealAmVoice"

President Trump reports, "Reports are coming out of the 12th Congressional District of Georgia that Dominion Machines are not working in certain Republican Strongholds for over an hour. Ballots are being left in lock boxes, hopefully they count them. Thank you Congressman
@RickAllen!"

[Jan 05, 2021] I think George Soros has the right idea to capture Attoney general positions in states. Then they sell Dominion voting machines and fix the election... pure genius

Dec 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

otschelnik

I think George Soros has the right idea using minimal bux to take of the justice system. You go down to the state level and finance the state election committees and the courts - Kim Foxx in Chicago, George Gascon in LA, Kim Gardner in St. Louis, Dana Nessel in Michigan.

Then they sell Dominion voting machines and fix the election.... pure genius.

[Jan 05, 2021] Lesson in integrity

Is Mitch McConnell a shadow lobbyist for Dominion?
Notable quotes:
"... In July, McConnell blocked two bills, one that would provide $775 million to "bolster election security," along with requiring a physical paper trail of every single ballot cast in the country, and a second that would mandate political candidates, their staff members, and their families, to notify the FBI if any foreign government offered to assist them. ..."
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

BugMan

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) quashed two election integrity bills in July last year after receiving thousands in donations from Dominion lobbyists.

In July, McConnell blocked two bills, one that would provide $775 million to "bolster election security," along with requiring a physical paper trail of every single ballot cast in the country, and a second that would mandate political candidates, their staff members, and their families, to notify the FBI if any foreign government offered to assist them.

Dominion Lobbyists Paid McConnell Thousands Before He Crushed Election Integrity Bills, Ignored Election Contests - National File

[Jan 05, 2021] The Democrats Have Stolen the Presidential Election by Paul Craig Roberts

Notable quotes:
"... It is difficult to know or to ensure that the ballots are actual ballots from registered voters. For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump's lead. State officials have reported that people not registered -- probably illegals -- were permitted to vote. Postal service workers have reported being ordered to backdate ballots that suddenly appeared in the middle of the night after the deadline. These techniques were used to erase Trump's substantial leads in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia. ..."
"... Digital technology has also made it easy to alter vote counts. US Air Force General Thomas McInerney is familiar with this technology. He says it was developed by the National Security Agency in order to interfere in foreign elections, but now is in the hands of the CIA and was used to defeat Trump. Trump is considered to be an enemy of the military/security complex because of his wish to normalize relations with Russia, thus taking away the enemy that justifies the CIA's budget and power. ..."
"... The military/security complex favors the disunity that the Democrat Party and media have fostered with their ideology of Identity Politics. ..."
"... I would take it a little further and say that voting by mail is a method of vote fraud. The supposed safeguards are easily circumvented, as some whistleblowers have illustrated with ballots being brought forth in large numbers after election day without postmarks and postal workers being ordered to stamp them with acceptable postmarks. ..."
"... Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate. ..."
"... the most likely source of fraud that is hard to detect, is ballot harvesting. This should be outlawed as it violates the idea of a secret ballot. Somebody comes to the home of a disinterested voter and makes sure he votes (of course they will never admit to hounding the person) and "helps" them with the ballot. If the voter cannot be cajoled into voting the correct way, you merely throw his ballot in the trash. ..."
"... Living in an urban setting I often had to visit apartment buildings. Without fail, there was always a pile of undeliverable mail in the lobby under the mailboxes. ..."
"... His farewell address was just flapdoodle; it wasn't really dredged up till the 70s. Eisenhower spent eight years spreading tripwires and mines and then said "Watch out." Thanks buddy. ..."
"... As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies. ..."
"... inventive creative new ways to deceive.. first it was election machines, then mail in votes. ..."
"... The phrase "there's no evidence" is just a public commitment to ignore any evidence, no matter how blatant or obvious. ..."
"... Paper ballots as ascribed by Tulsi Gabbard legislation is the only safe option for elections. Kudos to Tulsi! ..."
"... Everyone knew about the potential for voter fraud to occur, but the entire system is corrupt, including Trump who has allowed the massive corruption within the system that was present when he entered office to persist and grow because he is a wimpy, spineless, coward, that was too afraid to make any waves and take the heat that he promised his voters. ..."
"... Why anyone voted for Trump in 2020 confounds me. I voted for him in 2016 and he has turned out to be one of the worst presidents in history. ..."
"... Trump in his cowardess and dishonesty knew that the ailing economy would harm his chances of being re-elected, so he allowed the health scare scamdemic to occur and destroy the livelihoods, lives, and businesses of hundreds of millions of Americans because he is a psychopath. Trump did not do what he promised. Trump made America worse than it has ever been since the end of slavery. ..."
"... Trump has also demanded the extradition of Assange after telling his voters that he loved wikileaks. Trump is a two-faced, lying, fraud. It has been his pattern. He consistently supports various groups and people like Wikileaks, Proud Boys, and others and panders to them and voters and tells people that he loves them, and then every time without fail when the heat is on, Trump says," I really don't know anything about them." ..."
"... "I know nothing." Trump saying "I know nothing." defines his presidency and who he is as a person, a spineless, pandering, corrupt, two-faced, narcissist, loser, and wimp! ..."
Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

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Paul Craig Roberts' Interview with the European magazine Zur Zeit ( In This Time ):

https://zurzeit.at/index.php/die-demokraten-haben-die-praesidentenwahl-gestohlen/

English Translation:

A few months ago it looked like the re-election of Trump was almost certain, but now there was a close race between Trump and Biden? What happen during the last months?

In the months before the election, the Democrats used the "Covid pandemic" to put in place voting by mail. The argument was used that people who safely go to supermarkets and restaurants could catch Covid if they stood in voting lines. Never before used on a large scale, voting by mail is subject to massive vote fraud.

There are many credible reports of organized vote fraud committed by Democrats. The only question is whether the Republican establishment will support challenging the documented fraud or whether Trump will be pressured to concede in order to protect the reputation of American Democracy.

For those influenced by a partisan media that is denying the massive fraud that occurred, here is an overview of the elements of the fraud and the legal remedies. https://www.unz.com/article/of-color-revolutions-foreign-and-domestic-the-first-72-hours/

It is difficult to know or to ensure that the ballots are actual ballots from registered voters. For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump's lead. State officials have reported that people not registered -- probably illegals -- were permitted to vote. Postal service workers have reported being ordered to backdate ballots that suddenly appeared in the middle of the night after the deadline. These techniques were used to erase Trump's substantial leads in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.

Digital technology has also made it easy to alter vote counts. US Air Force General Thomas McInerney is familiar with this technology. He says it was developed by the National Security Agency in order to interfere in foreign elections, but now is in the hands of the CIA and was used to defeat Trump. Trump is considered to be an enemy of the military/security complex because of his wish to normalize relations with Russia, thus taking away the enemy that justifies the CIA's budget and power.

People do not understand. They think an election has been held when in fact what has occurred is that massive vote fraud has been used to effect a revolution against red state white America. Leaders of the revolution, such as Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are demanding a list of Trump supporters who are "to be held accountable." Calls are being made for the arrest of Tucker Carlson, the only mainstream journalist who supported President Trump.

In a recent column I wrote:

"Think what it means that the entirety of the US media, allegedly the 'watchdogs of democracy,' are openly involved in participating in the theft of a presidential election.

"Think what it means that a large number of Democrat public and election officials are openly involved in the theft of a presidential election.

"It means that the United States is split irredeemably. The hatred for white people that has been cultivated for many years, portraying white Americans as "systemic racists," together with the Democrats' lust for power and money, has destroyed national unity. The consequence will be the replacement of rules with force."

Mainstream media in Europe claim, that Trump had "divided" the United States. But isn`t it actually the other way around, that his opponents have divided the country?

As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism , the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies. Russiagate was a CIA/FBI successful effort to block Trump from reducing tensions with Russia. In 1961 in his last address to the American people President Dwight Eisenhower warned that the growing power of the military/industrial complex was a threat to American democracy. We ignored his warning and now have security agencies more powerful than the President.

The military/security complex favors the disunity that the Democrat Party and media have fostered with their ideology of Identity Politics. Identity politics replaced Marxist class war with race and gender war. White people, and especially white heterosexual males, are the new oppressor class. This ideology causes race and gender disunity and prevents any unified opposition to the security agencies ability to impose its agendas by controlling explanations. Opposition to Trump cemented the alliance between Democrats, media, and the Deep State.

It is possible that the courts will decide who will be sworn into office at January 20, 2021. Do you except a phase of uncertainty or even a constitutional crisis?

There is no doubt that numerous irregularities indicate that the election was stolen and that the ground was well laid in advance. Trump intends to challenge the obvious theft. However, his challenges will be rejected in Democrat ruled states, as they were part of the theft and will not indict themselves. This means Trump and his attorneys will have to have constitutional grounds for taking their cases to the federal Supreme Court. The Republicans have a majority on the Court, but the Court is not always partisan.

Republicans tend to be more patriotic than Democrats, who denounce America as racist, fascist, sexist, imperialist. This patriotism makes Republicans impotent when it comes to political warfare that could adversely affect America's reputation. The inclination of Republicans is for Trump to protect America's reputation by conceding the election. Republicans fear the impact on America's reputation of having it revealed that America's other major party plotted to steal a presidental election.

Red state Americans, on the other hand, have no such fear. They understand that they are the targets of the Democrats, having been defined by Democrats as "racist white supremacist Trump deplorables."

The introduction of a report of the Heritage Foundation states that "the United States has a long and unfortunate history of election fraud". Are the 2020 presidential elections another inglorious chapter in this long history?

This time the fraud is not local as in the past. It is the result of a well organized national effort to get rid of a president that the Establishment does not accept.

Somehow you get the impression that in the USA – as in many European countries democracy is just a facade – or am I wrong?

You are correct. Trump is the first non-establishment president who became President without being vetted by the Establishment since Ronald Reagan. Trump was able to be elected only because the Establishment thought he had no chance and took no measures to prevent his election. A number of studies have concluded that in the US the people, despite democracy and voting, have zero input into public policy.

Democracy cannot work in America because the money of the elite prevails. American democracy is organized in order to prevent the people from having a voice. A political campaign is expensive. The money for candidates comes from interest groups, such as defense contractors, Wall Street, the pharmaceutical industry, the Israel Lobby. Consequently, the winning candidate is indebted to his funders, and these are the people whom he serves.

European mainstream media are portraying Biden as a luminous figure. Should Biden become president, what can be expected in terms of foreign and security policy, especially in regard to China, Russia and the Middle East? I mean, the deep state and the military-industrial complex remain surely nearly unchanged.

Biden will be a puppet, one unlikely to be long in office. His obvious mental confusion will be used either to rule through him or to remove him on grounds of mental incompetence. No one wants the nuclear button in the hands of a president who doesn't know which day of the week it is or where he is.

The military/security complex needs enemies for its power and profit and will be certain to retain the list of desirable foreign enemies -- Russia, Iran, China, and any independent-inclined country in Latin America. Being at war is also a way of distracting the people of the war against their liberties.

What the military/security complex might not appreciate is that among its Democrat allies there are some, such as Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who are ideological revolutionaries. Having demonized red state America and got rid of Trump (assuming the electoral fraud is not overturned by the courts), Ocasio-Cortez and her allies intend to revolutionize the Democrat Party and make it a non-establishment force. In her mind white people are the Establishment, which we already see from her demands for a list of Trump supporters to be punished.

I think I'm not wrong in assuming that a Biden-presidency would mean more identity politics, more political correctness etc. for the USA. How do you see this?

Identity politics turns races and genders against one another. As white people -- "systemic racists" -- are defined as the oppressor class, white people are not protected from hate speech and hate crimes. Anything can be said or done to a white American and it is not considered politically incorrect.

With Trump and his supporters demonized, under Democrat rule the transition of white Americans into second or third class citizens will be completed.

How do you access Trump's first term in office? Where was he successful and where he failed?

Trump spent his entire term in office fighting off fake accusations -- Russiagate, Impeachgate, failure to bomb Russia for paying Taliban to kill American occupiers of Afghanistan, causing Covid by not wearing a mask, and so on and on.

That Trump survived all the false charges shows that he is a real person, a powerful character. Who else could have survived what Trump has been subjected to by the Establishment and their media prostitutes. In the United States the media is known as "presstitutes" -- press prostitutes. That is what Udo Ulfkotte says they are in Europe. As a former Wall Street Journal editor, I say with complete confidence that there is no one in the American media today I would have hired. The total absence of integrity in the Western media is sufficient indication that the West is doomed.


Twodees Partain , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:21 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

Never before used on a large scale, voting by mail is subject to massive vote fraud.

I would take it a little further and say that voting by mail is a method of vote fraud. The supposed safeguards are easily circumvented, as some whistleblowers have illustrated with ballots being brought forth in large numbers after election day without postmarks and postal workers being ordered to stamp them with acceptable postmarks.

It really seems to me that there would be no democrat majorities in Congress or in so many state legislatures without vote fraud.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:42 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

So fraud is needed to protect the reputation of American democracy. Only fraud can! Thanks, PCR!

endthefed , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:53 pm GMT • 24.0 hours ago
@Notsofast

Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate.

MarkinLA , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:37 pm GMT • 22.2 hours ago

Worse than the fraud available with vote by mail is the voting of people normally who don't bother to vote. Think of how stupid and uninformed that average American voter is. Now realize how much more stupid and uninformed the non-voter is, only now he votes.

However, the most likely source of fraud that is hard to detect, is ballot harvesting. This should be outlawed as it violates the idea of a secret ballot. Somebody comes to the home of a disinterested voter and makes sure he votes (of course they will never admit to hounding the person) and "helps" them with the ballot. If the voter cannot be cajoled into voting the correct way, you merely throw his ballot in the trash.

Curmudgeon , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:43 pm GMT • 22.1 hours ago

I have little doubt that there have been massive "irregularities", particularly in the so-called battleground states, that are at play in "stealing" the election.

...The favourite phrase these days is "no evidence of wide spread voter fraud". Let's break that down. Only 6 states have been challenged for vote fraud. In the big scheme of things, 6 states is not wide spread, even if there is massive vote fraud within those 6 states. That the vote fraud is not widespread, implies that some vote fraud is acceptable, and that the listener should ignore it. Last and most importantly, in the narrowest of legalistic terms, testimony or affidavits are not evidence. Testimony and affidavits become evidence when supported by physical evidence. An affidavit with a photograph demonstrating the statement would be evidence.

Another phrase is something like "election officials say they have seen no evidence of voter fraud". I have yet to hear a reporter challenge the "seen no evidence of " part of the statement, regardless of the subject, by asking if the speaker had looked for any evidence. They won't, because they know damn well no one has.

That is how the liars operate. Not so different from Rumsfeld's "plausible deniability".

Beavertales , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:21 pm GMT • 21.5 hours ago

Living in an urban setting I often had to visit apartment buildings. Without fail, there was always a pile of undeliverable mail in the lobby under the mailboxes.

The envelopes were mostly addressed to people who had moved out or died. If ballots were sent to these people based on incorrect voter rolls, then these too would likely have been left sitting on the floor or on a ledge for anyone to take.

It doesn't take a leap of faith to know what a Trump-hating leftist would do when no one is looking. This moral hazard was intentionally created by Dems, who know that urban dwellers are transient and lean left politically.

Franz , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:54 pm GMT • 21.0 hours ago
@endthefed

Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate.

Ike's a mystery. Why did he NOT question Harry Truman's commitments to NATO, the UN, and all that rubbish? Ike was a WWII guy. He knew Americans hated the UN in 1953 as much as they hated the League of Nations after WWI. But he let it all slide and get bigger.

His farewell address was just flapdoodle; it wasn't really dredged up till the 70s. Eisenhower spent eight years spreading tripwires and mines and then said "Watch out." Thanks buddy.

endthefed , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:08 pm GMT • 20.7 hours ago
@Bragadocious

Well, agree on your points however, on the other side of the ledger, he never understood the stupidity of the Korean war (that he could have ended) and majorly up-ramped CIA activities in all manner of regime change (bay of pigs anyone?). Almost a direct path to our foreign policy now (and now domestic policy)

Notsofast , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:28 pm GMT • 20.4 hours ago
@Bragadocious

He did deploy the military assistance advisory group to Vietnam in 1955. This is considered the beginning of U.S. involvement in the war. This allowed the French to moonwalk out the back door leaving us holding the bag. In fairness this was Johnson's war however. Eisenhower did cut the military budget as a peace dividend to fund interstate system and other domestic projects. In today political spectrum he would be considered a flaming liberal.

Louis Hissink , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:30 am GMT • 14.4 hours ago

Hi PCR

As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies.

What intrigues me is the ultimate political goal of the UN and the WEF when they anticipate a single global government centered at the UN and the absence of nation-states.

So what is the MIC going to do when there are no existential threats of competing nation-states? Or will the MIC re-engineer religious wars between the various religious groups, secular and theological? It seems the aspirations of the WEF and its fellow travellers preclude the occurrence of future armed conflicts.

Of course one needs capitalistic economies to produce the ordnance and materiels for the engineered social factions to war with each other. Yet if the Greens have their way, there will be no mining period.

More likely is the possibility that none of them actually understand what they are doing. As Nassim Taleb is alleged to have remarked, 99% of humans are stupid.

anonymous [284] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:35 am GMT • 14.3 hours ago

The total absence of integrity in the Western media is sufficient indication that the West is doomed.

It's because Western media is completely under the control of Jews, the world's foremost End Justifies Means people. The Fourth Estate has become the world's most powerful Bully Pulpit. There are still a few good ones though, brave souls they are: Kim Strassel of WSJ, Daniel Larison of The American Conservative , Neil Munro of Breitbart.

The rest are more or less lying scums, including everyone on NYTimes, WSJ, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, Fox News (minus Tucker Carlson and Maria Bartiromo), The Economist , and let's not forget the new media: Google, Facebook, Twitter. The world would be a much better place without any of them.

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:44 am GMT • 14.1 hours ago
@Beavertales -- with either vote flipping on machines or having the totals that paper ballot scanners tabulate adjust via a pre-programmed algorithm. Many elections have already been stolen this way.

But, in the vein of what you mention is this fascinating article. I urge everyone to read it. He spills the beans in detail. https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

Imagine hundreds of those people around the country over decades. There must be scads of illegitimate office holders all over. It's horrendous

Alfred , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:51 am GMT • 14.0 hours ago

Nancy Pelosi claims that Biden's victory gives the Democrats a "MANDATE" to alter the economy as they see fit with 50.5%. This proves that Biden will NOT represent everyone – only the left! I have warned that this has been their agenda from day one. Now, three whistleblowers from the Democratic software company Dominion Voting Systems, alleging that the company's software stole 38 million votes from Trump. There are people claiming that Dominion Voting Systems is linked to Soros, Dianae Finesteing, Clintons, and Pelosi's husband. I cannot verify any of these allegations so far.

We are at the Rubicon. Civil War is on the other side. There should NEVER be this type of drastic change to the economy from Capitalism to Marxism on 50.5% of the popular vote. NOBODY should be able to restructure the government and the economy on less than 2/3rds of the majority. That would be a mandate. Trying to change everything with a claim of 50.5% of the vote will only signal, like the Dread Scot decision, that there is no solution by rule of law. This is the end of civilization and it will turn ugly from here because there is no middle ground anymore. As I have warned, historically the left will never tolerate opposition.

Democrats Claim Mandate to Alter the Economy & 3 Whistleblowers from Software Company Allege they stole 38 million votes from Trump | Armstrong Economics

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 5:56 am GMT • 13.9 hours ago

DEMOCRATS TURN MENACING AS FRAUD FALLS APART

https://www.bitchute.com/embed/WMA7DXLDgzBy/

Just another serf , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:18 am GMT • 13.6 hours ago

Yes, the theft is blatant. But what are you, us, going to do about it? We really can't do much as the Office of the President Elect requires us to wear masks. For our safety.

animalogic , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:35 am GMT • 13.3 hours ago
@Curmudgeon

"in the narrowest of legalistic terms, testimony or affidavits are not evidence. Testimony and affidavits become evidence when supported by physical evidence. " Correct – but they also can become evidence by verbal testimony. ie "I saw the defendant hit the victim with a rock"

Anon [115] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:55 am GMT • 12.9 hours ago

Not only have they stolen the election but when Joe Biden and other democrats claim that President Trump caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans because of his handling of Covid 19, they are in sane. No world leader could stop the spread of this respiratory virus. However, Joe Biden and democrats have caused the deaths of hundreds of white people, while whipping up weak minded people to kill many whites. Biden and the democrats are criminals. Any one who is white, man or woman, that supports the democratic party is enabling a criminal organization to perpetrate violence on white people, including murder.

chet roman , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:05 am GMT • 12.8 hours ago

Since the article was from a German magazine it's understandable that there is no mention of "the one who shall not be named". No mention of the people behind the Lawfare group, the same people behind the impeachment, the same people providing financial and ideological support for the BLM/Antifa, the same people that own the media that spewed lies for 5 years and censored any mention of the Biden family corruption, no mention of the people behind this Color Revolution, the same people who promoted the mail in voting and those that managed the narrative for the media on election night to stop Trump's momentum.

For the public consumption the election will be described in vague terms, like this article, blaming special interests and institutions like the FBI, CIA and MIC without naming names as if an institution, not the oligarchs and chosen pulling the strings, are somehow Marxist, anti-white or anti-Christian.

Clay Alexander , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:18 am GMT • 12.6 hours ago

The interviewer quotes the Heritage Foundation does anyone even care what they say? The English Tavistock Institute by way of the CIA which the British molded from the OSS created programs for the Heritage Foundation as well as the Hoover Institute, MIT, Stanford University, Wharton, Rand etc. These "rightwing think tanks" were created to counter the CIA's "leftwing think tanks" at Columbia, Berkeley etc. Thank you British Intelligence.

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 7:24 am GMT • 12.5 hours ago

Bloat the Vote: https://www.thedailybell.com/all-articles/news-analysis/2020-wisconsin-election-fraud/

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:31 am GMT • 12.3 hours ago

Steve Bannon was just interviewing someone (can't remember his name). Apparently there are about 200 to 300 IT professionals/engineers working on these so-called "glitches" (not glitches at all) which mysteriously "disappeared" thousands of Trump votes. Then they'd dump phony Biden votes into the mix. These IT professionals are going to follow the trail.

I've also heard that Dominion Voting Systems played a big part in this scam by using algorithms. One Trump lawyer said that big revelations are coming.

We're going to have to be patient and just wait.

"The inclination of Republicans is for Trump to protect America's reputation by conceding the election."

I honestly think it's more like the old established Republicans (corporate bought) want Trump to lose because that is what their campaign donors want (Big Pharma, Wall Street, etc.) They are part of the elite, and the elite (both the Democrats AND Republicans) want Trump gone so they can continue their crony capitalist looting. They've got to appear like they're behind Trump, but I don't think they are. Of course, that's not all Republican representatives.

Sounds like they've been rigging elections for awhile now. I bet they just messed up with Hillary. I think that's why she was so upset. She had it, but they screwed up and didn't supply enough ballots.

Biff , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:39 am GMT • 12.2 hours ago

My conclusion is: They are probably going to get away with it.

My advice: Make them suffer.

sally , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:45 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago
@KenH inventive creative new ways to deceive.. first it was election machines, then mail in votes. next it will be magic carpet voting. But the votes don't count, cause it is the electoral college that elects the President.

Trump also lost a significant number who did not understand Trump was an Israeli at heart, they thought he was a uncoothed NYC red blooded American.

As far as white, black or pokadot color or any of the religions ganging up against Trump I don't think that happened, the fall out into statistically discoverable categories is just that, fall out, not those categories conspiring to vote or not vote one way or the other.

Wizard of Oz , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:46 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago

PCR seems to have trouble seeing a difference between the counting of perfectly proper votes which Pres Trump's post office delivered late which may or may not be allowed by law which can be determined in court, and fraud like the dead voting or votes being forged.

Anonymous [272] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:54 am GMT • 12.0 hours ago

The fraud is all so transparent but no one in the power elite seems to give a crap whether the public catches on or not these days. They know that the entire media which creates the false matrix of contrived "truth" that we all live in will back them to the hilt because they are actually just one more working part in the grand conspiracy. We all know that when "O'Brian" says 2 + 2 equals 5 we must all believe it, or at least say we do. We interface with "O'Brian's" minions on a daily basis but we don't know the ultimate identity of "O'Brian" (in the singular or multiple). Many guesses are made, but they hide that from us fairly well with the aid of their militaries and "intelligence" agencies (aka secret police in other times and places).

Wally , says: November 13, 2020 at 8:08 am GMT • 11.7 hours ago
@MarkinLA s://amgreatness.com/2020/11/09/on-electoral-fraud-in-2020/"> https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/09/on-electoral-fraud-in-2020/
Why Did Six Battleground States with Democrat Governors (Except One) ALL Pause Counting on Election Night? And How Was This Coordinated?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/six-battleground-states-democrat-governors-pause-counting-election-night-coordinated/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Biff , says: November 13, 2020 at 8:57 am GMT • 10.9 hours ago

For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump's lead.

In a very similar vein, it is the same thing that happened to Bernie Sanders during the primary's. Joe was down and out, and Bernie was enjoying the lead and then "Bam!" Overnight Joe is back on top.

Well, fool me once,,,,,, .,and blah, blah whatever Bush said .

Verymuchalive , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:48 am GMT • 10.1 hours ago
@Stephen Allen

Dr Roberts has referenced in the interview a UR article that goes into considerable detail about the massive electoral fraud by the Democrats and their partners. You've obviously not bothered to read it.

You're like one of those MSM hacks who denies electoral fraud without making any attempt to look at the evidence.

Sollipsist , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:17 am GMT • 9.6 hours ago
@Begemot And it's almost always a closer race than anyone would have guessed beforehand -- which I also find suspicious. How likely is it that the majority of presidential elections over the last century were decided by more or less even numbers of voters from each party, between more or less evenly matched candidates?

Really seems like they've perfected the art of putting on rigged political shows that you can't quite believe in, but don't have anything really solid to back up your suspicions. It's like the "no evidence of fraud" canard -- anything solid enough to show obvious manipulation is explained away as the exception, rather than the tip of a very deep iceberg

James Speaks , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:40 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@S Martini

Like the false accusations about Russia, delegitimizing the presidential election as fraud is turning out to be much ado about nothing.

Let's review. The Democrats perpetrated the phony 2016 Russian influence fraud, and now the Democrats are perpetrating the phony 2020 election victory.

The common elements are Democrats perpetrate fraud.

Do try to keep up.

Lee , says: November 13, 2020 at 11:48 am GMT • 8.1 hours ago

IMO this is a simple remedy to settle the election fraud mess or we will be arguing about this 20 years from now .from the American Thinker.

The candidates on the ballot must have an opportunity to have observers whom they choose to oversee the entire process so the candidates are satisfied that they won or lost a free and fair election.

That is not what happened in the 2020 election. That is the single most important and simple fact that needs to be understood and communicated. The 2020 election was not a free and fair election, because poll-watchers were not allowed to do their essential job. The 2020 election can still be a free and fair election with a clear winner, whoever that may be, but time is running out.

In every instance where poll-watchers were not allowed to observe the process, those votes must be recounted. They must be recounted with poll-watchers from both sides present. If there are votes that cannot be recounted because the envelops were discarded, those votes must be discarded. Put the blame for this on the officials who decided to count the votes in secret. Consider it a way to discourage secret vote counts in the future.

The pandemic has not been fearful enough to close liquor stores, and it in should not be used as excuse to remove the poll-watchers who are essential to a free and fair election. If we must have social distancing, then use cameras.

Certainly, there are other issues with the 2020 election. There may be problems with software, and there are issues like signature verification and dead people voting. Everything should be considered and examined, but no other issue should distract from the simple fact that both sides must be able to view the entire process. If one side is not allowed to view the vote-counting, then that side should be calling it a fraud. We should all be calling it a fraud.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/the_simplest_most_important_issue_regarding_the_2020_election.html#ixzz6dfsChU00

TomGregg , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT • 7.5 hours ago
@Anon

https://www.youtube.com/embed/OyBNmecVtdU?feature=oembed

The Spirit of Enoch Powell , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:02 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago

...Trump had control of the Senate, the House and of course the Executive between his inauguration in January of 2017 and the Midterm Elections of 2018, a total time period of 1 year and 10 months. What did he do during this time? He deregulated financial services and passed corporate tax cuts.

At the end of the day, being emotionally invested in US elections is no different to being emotionally invested in Keeping up with the Kardashians , that is to say your life wouldn't be that different if your don't follow either.

Realist , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:04 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago

The Democrats Have Stolen the Presidential Election

The Deep State Has Stolen the Presidential Election. FIFY. But they have been in control for decades they just don't care who knows now. They are taking final steps to make their control impervious to attack.

anon [434] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:06 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago
@Notsofast nd protect the actual elephant in the Oval Office: CIA.

Trumman did speak up one month after JFK was killed by the unmentionable "I" of M.(I).I.C.

https://archive.org/stream/LimitCIARoleToIntelligenceByHarrySTruman/Limit%20CIA%20Role%20To%20Intelligence%20by%20Harry%20S%20Truman_djvu.txt

This is the reason that the establishment latched on to the Eisenhowerian bon mot but entirely memory hole Trumman's far more explicit warning a freaking month after a sitting president is shot like a turkey in Dallas: it white washes CIA and NSC .

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 1:31 pm GMT • 6.3 hours ago

Why are CIA goons like Anderson Pooper serving as journalists? CIA is a criminal organization that subverts other nations.

MLK , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:32 pm GMT • 6.3 hours ago

The place to begin, and it's mind-blowing when you think about it this way, is that nothing was resolved on election night. Not who will take the oath on January 20th. Nor which party will control the Senate. Nor even who will be Speaker and which party will control the House.

Suffice it to say, a still raging factional struggle has simply moved to a greater degree behind the curtain.

I noted this movie reference on another thread here:

If your father dies, you'll make the deal, Sonny.

-- "The Godfather"

My point being, you're foolish if you ascribe certainty as to outcome at this point.

Being rid of Trump has been as close to a dues ex machina for the establishment as imaginable since he took the oath. This ineluctable observation elicits no end of foot-stomping by those who assume it necessarily says anything positive about the man.

With every persistent revision of the script they wrote for him, all ending with his political demise at least, Trump has not just survived but grown stronger. While the Democrats turned our elections into something only seen in a third-world shit hole, Trump legitimately drew 71M votes from Americans.

That's a lot of air in the balloon. Believe me, filth like Russian mole Brennan may think everything is finished once they get rid of terrible, awful Trump, but those above his pay grade know better.

Like him or hate him, Trump is the only principal not wholly or largely discredited. He was saved from destruction during his first term by the Republican base moving to protect him. That was the import of his 90-95% approval among them, destroy him and you destroy the Republican Party.

Now, despite -- or perhaps, because of -- everything they've done, that base now includes a significant number of Democrats and independents. Trump is merely a vessel for an American majority attached to this constitutional republic thingie we've got going.

Don't get lost in the details. This isn't a puzzle you can solve by internet sleuthing. The plan they executed -- to steal sufficiently to make the outcome inevitable by the morning after the election at the latest -- failed. This was evident early on Election Day (e.g. fake water main breaks in Atlanta) and necessitated their playing their Fox/AZ card and shutting down the count at least until they had removed Republican monitors.

BannedHipster , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

People need to stop falling for Republican bullshit.

The Republicans control:

1. The Senate

2. The Supreme Court with a 6 to 3 majority.

3. The majority of state governments by a huge margin:

https://bannedhipster.home.blog/2020/11/12/bidens-first-cabinet-pick-israel-first-zionist-jew-ron-klain/

"In 22 states, Republicans will hold unified control over the governor's office and both houses of the legislature, giving the party wide political latitude -- including in states like Florida and Georgia."

"Eleven states will have divided governments in 2021, unchanged from this year: Democratic governors will need to work with Republican legislators in eight states, and Republican governors will contend with Democratic lawmakers in three."

The Democrats have: Joe Biden, and a slim majority in the House of Representatives which they are almost certain to lose in two years.

What the Republicans are going to do is everything we hate, but they will pretend they were "forced" to do it by the Democrats – the Democrats being the minority party.

Amnesty? Democrats made us do it.

More immigration? Democrats made us do it.

The Republican party is the greater of two evils.

Rurik , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:59 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Who else could have survived what Trump has been subjected to by the Establishment and their media prostitutes. In the United States the media is known as "presstitutes" -- press prostitutes. That is what Udo Ulfkotte says they are in Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-sYUmnLnoz8?feature=oembed

Mr. Ulfkotte died of a "heart attack" in January, 2017

Rest in Peace Udo.

Zarathustra , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Left and right.
(What you small brains do not understand is this.)
Democrats enabling the elite to invest in far east (lower wage costs, higher profits) did abandon the working class in America. Democrats by this act did throw away the working class as a dirty rug.
Democrats with their TPP exporting most of the production to far east would totally destroy working class in USA. Trump's first act was to cancel this insanity. Democrats are insanely delusional.
Democrats were left. Left is a party that supports the working people.
So here switch occurred. Democratic party now represent the elite, and Republicans now represent the working people.
(The irony of the fate)

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:26 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hxrVAGuE7Oo1/

Robert Snefjella , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:30 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago

The headline for PCR's article is a prediction, not yet established, and incomplete.

There is an ongoing massive attempt to steal the Presidential election as well as to steal an unknown number of House and Senate seats, and who knows what else.

The 'game' is still on. Many tens of millions of citizens – actual total unknown but possibly in numbers unprecedented in American history – voted for Trump. Republican candidates for office generally had strong support, but again, the actual percentage of support is unknown but presumably larger than now 'recorded'.

There are also the many millions who ardently supported Trump, know that Biden is illegitimate, deeply corrupt, and the precursor to perils unknown. Their determination and backbone and intelligence will now be tested.

There is the electoral college process; there are the state legislators that have a say in the process; there is the Supreme Court.

There is also the possibility of pertinent executive orders that mandate transparent processes in the face of, say, apprehended insurrection via fraudulent voting processes.

There is also the matter of how millions of 'deplorables' with trucks and tractors and firearms and other means to make their point will react to obvious massive election travesty.

The conjunction of the COVID global scamdemic/plandemic, with crazed Bill Gates and kin lurking in the background with needles, 'peaceful' protesters in many cities setting fires and looting with near impunity, and a mass media that is clearly comprehensively committed to a demonic degree of dishonesty and manipulation, and lunatic levels of 'identity politics' ideology, are among the elements setting the stage for what may be an historical watershed.

The American Revolution in the 18th century, against the British Crown's authority, came about after years of simmering anger and sporadic resistance against British injustice. At some point there was a 'tipping point'. When Germany invaded and occupied Norway early in the 2nd WW, an effective resistance quickly formed in reaction, where death and torture were the known willing risk. Two years before, those forming the resistance would have been just going on with their lives.

No one knows today how this plays out.

Agent76 , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:45 pm GMT • 4.1 hours ago

Who's Afraid of an Open Debate? The Truth About the Commission on Presidential Debates. The CPD is a duopoly which allows the major party candidates to draft secret agreements about debate arrangements including moderators, debate format and even participants.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1NXhoP5bQ2M?feature=oembed

Mar 6, 2014 Truth in Media "End Partisanship"

Ben Swann explains how the new coalition of EndPartisanship org is working to break the 2 party hold on primary elections, which currently lock around 50% of voters out of the process.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/h1zRfXkOmPI?feature=oembed

Sep 5, 2012 DNC Platform Changes on God, Jerusalem Spur Contentious Floor Vote

Democratic National Convention 2012: Delegates opposed to adding language on God, Israel's capital to platform shout, 'No!' in floor vote.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/t8BwqzzqcDs?feature=oembed

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:21 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago

For those who are sick of Fake News CNN or FoxNews, watch this new channel that many Trump voters are flocking to:

https://www.newsmaxtv.com/

I am currently watching an interview with SD Governor Kristi Noem, who went on ABC to challenge George Stenopolosus' claim that there is no fraud in this election. She pointed out that there has been many allegations, including dead people voting in PA and GA, she says we don't know how widespread this is, but we owe it to the 70+ million people who voted for Trump to investigate and ensure a clean and fair election. She said we gave Al Gore 37 days to investigate the result in 2000, why aren't we giving the same to Trump?

She is extremely articulate and sounds intelligent and honest, and what's more courageous to come forward like this. I hope she runs for president in 2024, I'd vote for her.

Anonymous [721] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:21 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago
@Chris in Cackalacky

Am I the only one who sees something profoundly spiritual happening in front of our eyes?

Yes. In reality, 5% of White men sent Trump packing. That doesn't match the GOP negrophile narrative where "based" Hindustanis join the emerging conservative coalition to make sure White people can't get affordable healthcare in their own countries, though. So we'll have to watch you parasites spool up this pedantic "fraud" nonsense until the fat orange zioclown gracelessly gets dragged out.

OutsideMan , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:30 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago
@Drew

Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups and Average Citizens
by Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Agent76 , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:31 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago
@TomGregg

Good post. You will gain more insight from this background on the speech and drafting.

Jan 19, 2011 Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance US National Archives

President Dwight D. Eisenhower's farewell address, known for its warnings about the growing power of the "military-industrial complex," was nearly two years in the making. This Inside the Vaults video short follows newly discovered papers revealing that Eisenhower was deeply involved in crafting the speech.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gg-jvHynP9Y?feature=oembed

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:42 pm GMT • 3.2 hours ago
@The Real World

Great article. Thanks. Agree with you about the big stealing being electronic. Trump tweeted out yesterday that over 2 million votes were stolen this way. For him to say this, they must have evidence.

Dinesh D'Souza said he hopes that when this matter comes before the Supreme Court that they will tackle once and for all what constitutes a legal vote.

Some pretty big names are involved with this Dominion Voting. It will be interesting to see what Trump's team of IT experts discover re the use of algorithms to swing the vote.

Cyrano , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:03 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

Why (Oh, why) did Trump had to go? Because Trump is an enema to the Deep State. He was threatening to expose the biggest lie of the last 100 years – the supposed "liberalism" of US...

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:07 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago
@Wizard of Oz

It has already been determined by the court. Pennsylvania ruled that late ballots are not to be counted.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/11/602-MD-2020-Order-Nov.-12.pdf

DanFromCT , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@Stephen Allen

The author refers to a body of overwhelmingly persuasive evidence of voter fraud that can be specified and quantified to provide proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal cases, not to mention hands down proof in civil cases requiring only a preponderance of the evidence to establish guilt. Furthermore, the Democrats' easily documented, elaborate efforts at concealing the vote counting process by shutting down the counting prior to sneaking truckloads of ballots in the back door is by itself powerful circumstantial evidence of their guilt. You have no idea what "evidence" means, either in general usage or in its strictly legal sense.

fatmanscoop , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago

The election cannot be trusted at all, just based on the insane entitled emotional state of the Globalist establishment alone. The system as-a-whole cannot be trusted, for the same reason. They are actively corrupting it in every way they can, and fully believe (as a matter of religious conviction) that they are right to do so.

fatmanscoop , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:38 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago
@Curmudgeon

"no evidence of wide spread voter fraud"

That's one of the Jew/Anglo Puritan Establishment's new catch-phrases. There's also "no evidence" that Joe Biden acted in a corrupt manner in Ukraine, even though he admitted to it on tape. There's "no evidence" that Big Tech is biased against conservative plebians, despite their removing conservative plebians' published content arbitrarily and with no State compulsion to do so. The phrase "there's no evidence" is just a public commitment to ignore any evidence, no matter how blatant or obvious.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:39 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago

https://www.trunews.com/stream/michigan-republican-governor-candidate-saw-voter-machines-connected-to-internet

Peripatetic Itch , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago
@DanFromCT

This newly discovered legal standard goes beyond "preponderance of the evidence" or even "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" to establish absolute certainty as the standard.

Just the obvious and necessary complement of the Bob Mueller standard for Russian collusion, don't you think -- "could not (quite) exonerate"? /s

Don't you dare call this hypocrisy.

Orville H. Larson , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:57 pm GMT • 1.9 hours ago
@Rogue

When it comes to protecting the integrity of elections, "low-tech" might be best!

anon [771] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:05 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago
@endthefed

His impotence makes a lot more sense when you know the full version was supposed to be Military-Industrial Congressional Complex.

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:42 pm GMT • 1.2 hours ago
@TheTrumanShow as the reason why.

They went for a softer approach in KY in 2019. The first-term Repub Gov had a Yankee's forthrightness so they just latched onto comments he made regarding the underfunded teachers pension program and amped-it to high heaven getting teachers all in a frightful frenzy.

In that solidly Red state, with all other prominent offices on the ballot (AG, SoS, etc.) going overwhelmingly Repub , somehow the Repub Gov loses to the Dem by around 5000 votes. The "teachers pension" narrative was rolled-out as the reason. (Btw, it seems that Dominion, or another type, software was used to switch the votes in that race. I've seen video about it.)

Art , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:47 pm GMT • 1.1 hours ago
@Orville H. Larson

When it comes to protecting the integrity of elections, "low-tech" might be best!

Paper ballots as ascribed by Tulsi Gabbard legislation is the only safe option for elections. Kudos to Tulsi!

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:55 pm GMT • 56 minutes ago
@Orville H. Larson out how the winds are blowing. There is nothing good about it.

Why not this:
-- ONLY in-person voting over a 2-day period, a Sat and Sun, with polls being open from 6AM to 9PM both days.
-- Exceptions are the traditional requested absentee ballot where the voter can be authenticated.
-- Paper ballots must be used at the polls and no single box of 'Straight Vote by Party' is offered.
-- Some kind of SIMPLE scanning tabulator could be used of the ballots and with it NOT being connected to the internet.

There is far too much cheating opportunity built into our current system. That's intended, of course.
It needs to end!

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 7:02 pm GMT • 49 minutes ago

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/exclusive-based-reports-auditors-specialists-data-analysts-statisticians-number-illegitimate-votes-identified-four-swing-states-enough-overturn-election/

... ... ...

No Friend Of The Devil , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:09 pm GMT • 42 minutes ago

Because you don't get it. You are missing the big picture. It was well known that these systems had the ability to be hacked as soon as they were implemented. It is also a well known fact that massive mail in ballots increases the likelihood that corrupt individuals are more likely to get away with election fraud.

Everyone knew about the potential for voter fraud to occur, but the entire system is corrupt, including Trump who has allowed the massive corruption within the system that was present when he entered office to persist and grow because he is a wimpy, spineless, coward, that was too afraid to make any waves and take the heat that he promised his voters.

Why anyone voted for Trump in 2020 confounds me. I voted for him in 2016 and he has turned out to be one of the worst presidents in history.

Trump in his cowardess and dishonesty knew that the ailing economy would harm his chances of being re-elected, so he allowed the health scare scamdemic to occur and destroy the livelihoods, lives, and businesses of hundreds of millions of Americans because he is a psychopath. Trump did not do what he promised. Trump made America worse than it has ever been since the end of slavery. Jeremy Powell said today that the economy is dead and will never recover.

The only injustices that Trump gave a damn about were the injustices against himself and his family, and has committed countless injustices against the entire country and world during his term. Trump is a corrupt narcissist. The facts prove it. Trump is such a corrupt narcissist that he was willing to destroy the entire economy based on scientific fraud, high crimes, and treason to use as political cover for his own incompetency which is the most offensive and disgusting diabolical act ever perpetrated on the entire country.

Trump has also demanded the extradition of Assange after telling his voters that he loved wikileaks. Trump is a two-faced, lying, fraud. It has been his pattern. He consistently supports various groups and people like Wikileaks, Proud Boys, and others and panders to them and voters and tells people that he loves them, and then every time without fail when the heat is on, Trump says," I really don't know anything about them."

"I know nothing." Trump saying "I know nothing." defines his presidency and who he is as a person, a spineless, pandering, corrupt, two-faced, narcissist, loser, and wimp!

Why would anyone vote for him the second time around after a record of pathological incompetency and pathological corruption? What's to approve of about him? Go ahead, investigate voter fraud it if is permitted, and if it isn't then ask yourselves why it is that a system that enables election fraud is in place, and ask yourselves who had the ability to change it and, who had the ability to benefit from it!

Andrea Iravani

[Jan 04, 2021] Another day another leak: A transcript of President Donald Trump's call published by the Washington Post:

Jan 04, 2021 | dailymail.co.uk

A transcript of President Donald Trump's call with Brad Raffensperger is shown below, via the Washington Post:

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows: Okay. Alright. Mr. President, everyone is on the line. This is Mark Meadows, the chief of staff. Just so we all are aware. On the line is secretary of state and two other individuals. Jordan and Mr. Germany with him. You also have the attorneys that represent the president, Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell -- who is not the attorney of record but has been involved -- myself and then the president. So Mr. President, I'll turn it over to you.

President Donald Trump: Okay, thank you very much. Hello Brad and Ryan and everybody. We appreciate the time and the call. So we've spent a lot of time on this, and if we could just go over some of the numbers, I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We'd be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense.

But we have a number of things. We have at least 2 or 3 -- anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn't been checked. We think that if you check the signatures -- a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County -- you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged. And we are quite sure that's going to happen.

Another tremendous number. We're going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number will be given, but it's in the 50s of thousands -- and that's people that went to vote and they were told they can't vote because they've already been voted for. And it's a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the number's large. We'll have it for you. But it's much more than the number of 11,779 that's -- the current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think you agree with that, right? That's something I think everyone -- at least that's a number that everyone agrees on.

But that's the difference in the votes. But we've had hundreds of thousands of ballots that we're able to actually -- we'll get you a pretty accurate number. You don't need much of a number because the number that in theory I lost by, the margin would be 11,779. But you also have a substantial numbers of people, thousands and thousands, who went to the voting place on November 3, were told they couldn't vote, were told they couldn't vote because a ballot had been put on their name. And you know that's very, very, very, very sad.

We had, I believe it's about 4,502 voters who voted but who weren't on the voter registration list, so it's 4,502 who voted, but they weren't on the voter registration roll, which they had to be. You had 18,325 vacant address voters. The address was vacant, and they're not allowed to be counted. That's 18,325.

Smaller number -- you had 904 who only voted where they had just a P.O. -- a post office box number -- and they had a post office box number, and that's not allowed. We had at least 18,000 -- that's on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly -- 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She's a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name]. That was the tape that's been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me and everybody else.

Where they got -- number one they said very clearly and it's been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area. And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people. There were no Republican poll watchers. Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers, I guess they were them. But there were no Democrats, either, and there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, early in the morning, they went to the table with the black robe and the black shield, and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before -- the table was put there -- I think it was, Brad, you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before, and then it was stuffed with votes.

They weren't in an official voter box; they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases, but they weren't in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it, and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it, but slow motion, and it was magnified many times over, and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.

You had out-of-state voters. They voted in Georgia, but they were from out of state, of 4,925. You had absentee ballots sent to vacant, they were absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses. They had nothing on them about addresses, that's 2,326.

And you had dropboxes, which is very bad. You had dropboxes that were picked up. We have photographs, and we have affidavits from many people.

I don't know if you saw the hearings, but you have dropboxes where the box was picked up but not delivered for three days. So all sorts of things could have happened to that box, including, you know, putting in the votes that you wanted. So there were many infractions, and the bottom line is, many, many times the 11,779 margin that they said we lost by -- we had vast, I mean the state is in turmoil over this.

And I know you would like to get to the bottom of it, although I saw you on television today, and you said that you found nothing wrong. I mean, you know, and I didn't lose the state, Brad. People have been saying that it was the highest vote ever. There was no way. A lot of the political people said that there's no way they beat me. And they beat me. They beat me in the . . . As you know, every single state, we won every state. We won every statehouse in the country. We held the Senate, which is shocking to people, although we'll see what happens tomorrow or in a few days.

And we won the House, but we won every single statehouse, and we won Congress, which was supposed to lose 15 seats, and they gained, I think 16 or 17 or something. I think there's a now difference of five. There was supposed to be a difference substantially more. But politicians in every state, but politicians in Georgia have given affidavits and are going to that, that there was no way that they beat me in the election, that the people came out, in fact, they were expecting to lose, and then they ended up winning by a lot because of the coattails. And they said there's no way, that they've done many polls prior to the election, that there was no way that they won.

Ballots were dropped in massive numbers. And we're trying to get to those numbers and we will have them.

They'll take a period of time. Certified. But but they're massive numbers. And far greater than the 11,779.

The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.

The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots. Then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas. And this may or may not be true . . . this just came up this morning, that they are burning their ballots, that they are shredding, shredding ballots and removing equipment. They're changing the equipment on the Dominion machines and, you know, that's not legal.

And they supposedly shredded I think they said 300 pounds of, 3,000 pounds of ballots. And that just came to us as a report today. And it is a very sad situation.

But Brad, if you took the minimum numbers where many, many times above the 11,779, and many of those numbers are certified, or they will be certified, but they are certified. And those are numbers that are there, that exist. And that beat the margin of loss, they beat it, I mean, by a lot, and people should be happy to have an accurate count instead of an election where there's turmoil.

I mean there's turmoil in Georgia and other places. You're not the only one, I mean, we have other states that I believe will be flipping to us very shortly. And this is something that -- you know, as an example, I think it in Detroit, I think there's a section, a good section of your state actually, which we're not sure so we're not going to report it yet. But in Detroit, we had, I think it was, 139 percent of the people voted. That's not too good.

In Pennsylvania, they had well over 200,000 more votes than they had people voting. And that doesn't play too well, and the legislature there is, which is Republican, is extremely activist and angry. I mean, there were other things also that were almost as bad as that. But they had as an example, in Michigan, a tremendous number of dead people that voted. I think it was, I think, Mark, it was 18,000. Some unbelievably high number, much higher than yours, you were in the 4-5,000 category.

And that was checked out laboriously by going through, by going through the obituary columns in the newspapers.

So I guess with all of it being said, Brad, the bottom line, and provisional ballots, again, you know, you'll have to tell me about the provisional ballots, but we have a lot of people that were complaining that they weren't able to vote because they were already voted for. These are great people.

And, you know, they were shellshocked. I don't know if you call that provisional ballots. In some states, we had a lot of provisional ballot situations where people were given a provisional ballot because when they walked in on November 3 and they were already voted for.

So that's it. I mean, we have many, many times the number of votes necessary to win the state. And we won the state, and we won it very substantially and easily, and we're getting, we have, much of this is a very certified, far more certified than we need. But we're getting additional numbers certified, too. And we're getting pictures of dropboxes being delivered and delivered late. Delivered three days later, in some cases, plus we have many affidavits to that effect.

Meadows: So, Mr. President, if I might be able to jump in, and I'll give Brad a chance. Mr. Secretary, obviously there is, there are allegations where we believe that not every vote or fair vote and legal vote was counted, and that's at odds with the representation from the secretary of state's office.

What I'm hopeful for is there some way that we can, we can find some kind of agreement to look at this a little bit more fully? You know the president mentioned Fulton County.

But in some of these areas where there seems to be a difference of where the facts seem to lead, and so Mr. Secretary, I was hopeful that, you know, in the spirit of cooperation and compromise, is there something that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that's less litigious?

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger: Well, I listened to what the president has just said. President Trump, we've had several lawsuits, and we've had to respond in court to the lawsuits and the contentions. We don't agree that you have won. And we don't -- I didn't agree about the 200,000 number that you'd mentioned. I'll go through that point by point.

What we have done is we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue and then on the state House, the government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago, we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election. Going back, primarily what you've talked about here focused in on primarily, I believe, is the absentee ballot process. I don't believe that you're really questioning the Dominion machines. Because we did a hand re-tally, a 100 percent re-tally of all the ballots, and compared them to what the machines said and came up with virtually the same result. Then we did the recount, and we got virtually the same result. So I guess we can probably take that off the table.

I don't think there's an issue about that.

Trump: Well, Brad. Not that there's not an issue, because we have a big issue with Dominion in other states and perhaps in yours. But we haven't felt we needed to go there. And just to, you know, maybe put a little different spin on what Mark is saying, Mark Meadows, yeah we'd like to go further, but we don't really need to. We have all the votes we need.

You know, we won the state. If you took, these are the most minimal numbers, the numbers that I gave you, those are numbers that are certified, your absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses, your out-of-state voters, 4,925. You know when you add them up, it's many more times, it's many times the 11,779 number. So we could go through, we have not gone through your Dominion. So we can't give them blessing. I mean, in other states, we think we found tremendous corruption with Dominion machines, but we'll have to see.

But we only lost the state by that number, 11,000 votes, and 779. So with that being said, with just what we have, with just what we have, we're giving you minimal, minimal numbers. We're doing the most conservative numbers possible; we're many times, many, many times above the margin. And so we don't really have to, Mark, I don't think we have to go through . . .

Meadows: Right

Trump: Because what's the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by half a million votes. I think I probably did win it by half a million. You know, one of the things that happened, Brad, is we have other people coming in now from Alabama and from South Carolina and from other states, and they're saying it's impossible for you to have lost Georgia. We won. You know in Alabama, we set a record, got the highest vote ever. In Georgia, we set a record with a massive amount of votes. And they say it's not possible to have lost Georgia.

And I could tell you by our rallies. I could tell you by the rally I'm having on Monday night, the place, they already have lines of people standing out front waiting. It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not possible. When I heard it was close, I said there's no way. But they dropped a lot of votes in there late at night. You know that, Brad. And that's what we are working on very, very stringently. But regardless of those votes, with all of it being said, we lost by essentially 11,000 votes, and we have many more votes already calculated and certified, too.

And so I just don't know, you know, Mark, I don't know what's the purpose. I won't give Dominion a pass because we found too many bad things. But we don't need Dominion or anything else. We have won this election in Georgia based on all of this. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. You know, I mean, having the correct -- the people of Georgia are angry. And these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night. Along with others that we're going to have by that time, which are much more substantial even. And the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated. Because the 2,236 in absentee ballots. I mean, they're all exact numbers that were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut 'em in half, cut 'em in half and cut 'em in half again, it's more votes than we need.

Raffensperger: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen, and they were surprised.

But they -- I guess there was a person named Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data, and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that's wrong.

Trump: Well, Cleta, how do you respond to that? Maybe you tell me?

Trump attorney Cleta Mitchell: Well, I would say, Mr. Secretary, one of the things that we have requested and what we said was, if you look, if you read our petition, it said that we took the names and birth years, and we had certain information available to us. We have asked from your office for records that only you have, and so we said there is a universe of people who have the same name and same birth year and died.

But we don't have the records that you have. And one of the things that we have been suggesting formally and informally for weeks now is for you to make available to us the records that would be necessary --

Trump: But, Cleta, even before you do that, and not even including that, that's why I hardly even included that number, although in one state, we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So I don't know -- I'm sure we do in Georgia, too. I'm sure we do in Georgia, too.

But we're so far ahead. We're so far ahead of these numbers, even the phony ballots of [name] , known scammer. You know the Internet? You know what was trending on the Internet? "Where's [name]?" Because they thought she'd be in jail. "Where's [name]?" It's crazy, it's crazy. That was. The minimum number is 18,000 for [name] , but they think it's probably about 56,000, but the minimum number is 18,000 on the [name] night where she ran back in there when everybody was gone and stuffed, she stuffed the ballot boxes. Let's face it, Brad, I mean. They did it in slow motion replay magnified, right? She stuffed the ballot boxes. They were stuffed like nobody has ever seen them stuffed before.

So there's a term for it when it's a machine instead of a ballot box, but she stuffed the machine. She stuffed the ballot. Each ballot went three times, they were showing: Here's ballot No 1. Here it is a second time, third time, next ballot.

I mean, look. Brad. We have a new tape that we're going to release. It's devastating. And by the way, that one event, that one event is much more than the 11,000 votes that we're talking about. It's, you know, that one event was a disaster. And it's just, you know, but it was, it was something, it can't be disputed. And again, we have a version that you haven't seen, but it's magnified. It's magnified, and you can see everything. For some reason, they put it in three times, each ballot, and I don't know why. I don't know why three times. Why not five times, right? Go ahead.

Raffensperger: You're talking about the State Farm video. And I think it's extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. The next day, we brought in WSB-TV, and we let them show, see the full run of tape, and what you'll see, the events that transpired are nowhere near what was projected by, you know --

Trump: But where were the poll watchers, Brad? There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.

It was late in the evening, late in the, early in the morning, and there was nobody else in the room. Where were the poll watchers, and why did they say a water main broke, which they did and which was reported in the newspapers? They said they left. They ran out because of a water main break, and there was no water main. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no water main break. But we're, if you take out everything, where were the Republican poll watchers, even where were the Democrat pollwatchers, because there were none.

And then you say, well, they left their station, you know, if you look at the tape, and this was, this was reviewed by professional police and detectives and other people, when they left in a rush, everybody left in a rush because of the water main, but everybody left in a rush. These people left their station.

When they came back, they didn't go to their station. They went to the apron, wrapped around the table, under which were thousands and thousands of ballots in a box that was not an official or a sealed box. And then they took those. They went back to a different station. So if they would have come back, they would have walked to their station, and they would have continued to work. But they couldn't do even that because that's illegal, because they had no Republican pollwatchers. And remember, her reputation is -- she's known all over the Internet, Brad. She's known all over.

I'm telling you, "Where's [name] " was one of the hot items . . . [name] They knew her. "Where's [name]?" So Brad, there can be no justification for that. And I, you know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. But that was -- and Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put 'em in three times.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that, and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.

Trump: Where was everybody else at that late time in the morning? Where was everybody? Where were the Republicans? Where were the security guards? Were the people that were there just a little while before when everyone ran out of the room. How come we had no security in the room. Why did they run to the bottom of the table? Why do they run there and just open the skirt and rip out the votes. I mean, Brad. And they were sitting there, I think for five hours or something like that, the votes.

Raffensperger : Mr. President, we'll send you the link from WSB.

Trump: I don't care about the link. I don't need it. Brad, I have a much better --

Mitchell: I will tell you. I've seen the tape. The full tape. So has Alex. We've watched it. And what we saw and what we've confirmed in the timing is that they made everybody leave -- we have sworn affidavits saying that. And then they began to process ballots. And our estimate is that there were roughly 18,000 ballots. We don't know that. If you know that . . .

Trump: It was 18,000 ballots, but they used each one three times.

Mitchell: Well, I don't know about that.

Trump: I do think we had ours magnified out.

Mitchell: I've watched the entire tape.

Trump: Nobody can make a case for that, Brad. Nobody. I mean, look, you'd have to be a child to think anything other than that. Just a child.

Mitchell: How many ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying were processed then?

Raffensperger: We had GBI . . . investigate that.

Germany: We had our -- this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was, who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents.

Trump: Well, there's no way they could -- then they're incompetent. They're either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

Mitchell: Well, what did they find?

Trump: There's only two answers, dishonesty or incompetence. There's just no way. Look. There's no way. And on the other thing, I said too, there is no way. I mean, there's no way that these things could have been, you know, you have all these different people that voted, but they don't live in Georgia anymore. What was that number, Cleta? That was a pretty good number, too.

Mitchell: The number who have registered out of state after they moved from Georgia. And so they had a date when they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state, and then it's like 4,500, I don't have that number right in front of me.

Trump: And then they came back in, and they voted.

Mitchell: And voted. Yeah.

Trump: I thought that was a large number, though. It was in the 20s.

Ryan Germany, Raffensberger's General Counsel: We've been going through each of those as well, and those numbers that we got, that Ms. Mitchell was just saying, they're not accurate. Every one we've been through are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately. And in many cases --

Trump: How may people do that? They moved out, and then they said, "Ah, to hell with it, I'll move back." You know, it doesn't sound like a very normal . . . you mean, they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? It's crazy.

Germany: They moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there's something about that data that, it's just not accurate.

Trump: Well, I don't know, all I know is that it is certified. And they moved out of Georgia, and they voted. It didn't say they moved back in, Cleta, did it?

Mitchell: No, but I mean, we're looking at the voter registration. Again, if you have additional records, we've been asking for that, but you haven't shared any of that with us. You just keep saying you investigated the allegations.

Trump: Cleta, a lot of it you don't need to be shared. I mean, to be honest, they should share it. They should share it because you want to get to an honest election.

I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I'm just going by small numbers, when you add them up, they're many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes.

Do you think it's possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that's what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery.

Do you know anything about that? Because that's illegal, right?

Germany: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.

Trump: But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?

Germany: No.

Trump: Are you sure, Ryan?

Germany: I'm sure. I'm sure, Mr. President.

Trump: What about, what about the ballots. The shredding of the ballots. Have they been shredding ballots?

Germany: The only investigation that we have into that -- they have not been shredding any ballots. There was an issue in Cobb County where they were doing normal office shredding, getting rid of old stuff, and we investigated that. But this stuff from, you know, from you know past elections.

Trump: It doesn't pass the smell test because we hear they're shredding thousands and thousands of ballots, and now what they're saying, "Oh, we're just cleaning up the office." You know.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they -- people can say anything.

Trump: Oh this isn't social media. This is Trump media. It's not social media. It's really not; it's not social media. I don't care about social media. I couldn't care less. Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side, you know. I don't even know why you have a side because you should want to have an accurate election. And you're a Republican.

Raffensperger: We believe that we do have an accurate election.

Trump: No, no you don't. No, no you don't. You don't have. Not even close. You're off by hundreds of thousands of votes. And just on the small numbers, you're off on these numbers, and these numbers can't be just -- well, why wont? -- Okay. So you sent us into Cobb County for signature verification, right? You sent us into Cobb County, which we didn't want to go into. And you said it would be open to the public. So we had our experts there, they weren't allowed into the room. But we didn't want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn't give it to us. Now, why aren't we doing signature -- and why can't it be open to the public?

And why can't we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs who will never find anything and don't want to find anything? They don't want to find, you know they don't want to find anything. Someday you'll tell me the reason why, because I don't understand your reasoning, but someday you'll tell me the reason why. But why don't you want to find?

Germany: Mr. President, we chose Cobb County --

Trump: Why don't you want to find . . . What?

Germany: Sorry, go ahead.

Trump: So why did you do Cobb County? We didn't even request -- we requested Fulton County, not Cobb County. Go ahead, please. Go ahead.

Germany: We chose Cobb County because that was the only county where there's been any evidence submitted that the signature verification was not properly done.

Trump: No, but I told you. We're not, we're not saying that.

Mitchell: We did say that.

Trump: Fulton County. Look. Stacey, in my opinion, Stacey is as dishonest as they come. She has outplayed you . . . at everything. She got you to sign a totally unconstitutional agreement, which is a disastrous agreement. You can't check signatures. I can't imagine you're allowed to do harvesting, I guess, in that agreement. That agreement is a disaster for this country. But she got you somehow to sign that thing, and she has outsmarted you at every step.

And I hate to imagine what's going to happen on Monday or Tuesday, but it's very scary to people. You know, when the ballots flow in out of nowhere. It's very scary to people. That consent decree is a disaster. It's a disaster. A very good lawyer who examined it said they've never seen anything like it.

Raffensperger: Harvesting is still illegal in the state of Georgia. And that settlement agreement did not change that one iota.

Trump: It's not a settlement agreement, it's a consent decree. It even says consent decree on it, doesn't it? It uses the term consent decree. It doesn't say settlement agreement. It's a consent decree. It's a disaster.

Raffensperger: It's a settlement agreement.

Trump: What's written on top of it?

Raffensperger: Ryan?

Germany: I don't have it in front of me, but it was not entered by the court, it's not a court order.

Trump: But Ryan, it's called a consent decree, is that right? On the paper. Is that right?

Germany: I don't. I don't. I don't believe so, but I don't have it in front of me.

Trump: Okay, whatever, it's a disaster. It's a disaster. Look. Here's the problem. We can go through signature verification, and we'll find hundreds of thousands of signatures, if you let us do it. And the only way you can do it, as you know, is to go to the past. But you didn't do that in Cobb County. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on November whatever. Recently. And compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you'll find that you have many different signatures. But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren't even signed and you have many that are forgeries.

Okay, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes because Fulton County is totally corrupt, and so is she totally corrupt.

And they're going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they're laughing at you. And you've taken a state that's a Republican state, and you've made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody's ever cheated before. And I don't care how long it takes me, you know, we're going to have other states coming forward -- pretty good.

But I won't . . . this is never . . . this is . . . We have some incredible talent said they've never seen anything . . . Now the problem is they need more time for the big numbers. But they're very substantial numbers. But I think you're going to fine that they -- by the way, a little information -- I think you're going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they're brand new, and they don't have seals, and there's a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt.

And you are going to find that they are -- which is totally illegal -- it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know, what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that's a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I've heard. And they are removing machinery, and they're moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can't let it happen, and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, this is -- it's a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don't know. A lot of people think it wasn't a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But it's a big problem in Georgia, and it's not a problem that's going away. I mean, you know, it's not a problem that's going away.

Germany: This is Ryan. We're looking into every one of those things that you mentioned.

Trump: Good. But if you find it, you've got to say it, Ryan.

Germany: . . . Let me tell you what we are seeing. What we're seeing is not at all what you're describing. These are investigators from our office, these are investigators from GBI, and they're looking, and they're good. And that's not what they're seeing. And we'll keep looking, at all these things.

Trump: Well, you better check on the ballots because they are shredding ballots, Ryan. I'm just telling you, Ryan. They're shredding ballots. And you should look at that very carefully. Because that's so illegal. You know, you may not even believe it because it's so bad. But they're shredding ballots because they think we're going to eventually get there . . . because we'll eventually get into Fulton. In my opinion, it's never too late. . . . So, that's the story. Look, we need only 11,000 votes. We have are far more than that as it stands now. We'll have more and more. And . . . do you have provisional ballots at all, Brad? Provisional ballots?

Raffensperger: Provisional ballots are allowed by state law.

Trump: Sure, but I mean, are they counted, or did you just hold them back because they, you know, in other words, how many provisional ballots do you have in the state?

Raffensperger: We'll get you that number.

Trump: Because most of them are made out to the name Trump. Because these are people that were scammed when they came in. And we have thousands of people that have testified or that want to testify. When they came in, they were proudly going to vote on November 3. And they were told, "I'm sorry, you've already been voted for, you've already voted." The women, men started screaming, "No. I proudly voted till November 3." They said, "I'm sorry, but you've already been voted for, and you have a ballot." And these people are beside themselves. So they went out, and they filled in a provisional ballot, putting the name Trump on it.

And what about that batch of military ballots that came in. And even though I won the military by a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about that? A large group of ballots came in, I think it was to Fulton County, and they just happened to be 100 percent for Trump -- for Biden -- even though Trump won the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But these ballots were 100 percent for Biden. And do you know about that? A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. Does anybody know about it?

Mitchell: I know about it, but --

Trump: Okay, Cleta, I'm not asking you, Cleta, honestly. I'm asking Brad. Do you know about the military ballots that we have confirmed now. Do you know about the military ballots that came in that were 100 percent, I mean 100 percent, for Biden. Do you know about that?

Germany: I don't know about that. I do know that we have, when military ballots come in, it's not just military, it's also military and overseas citizens. The military part of that does generally go Republican. The overseas citizen part of it generally goes very Democrat. This was a mix of 'em.

Trump: No, but this was. That's okay. But I got like 78 percent of the military. These ballots were all for . . . They didn't tell me overseas. Could be overseas, too, but I get votes overseas, too, Ryan, in all fairness. No they came in, a large batch came in, and it was, quote, 100 percent for Biden. And that is criminal. You know, that's criminal. Okay. That's another criminal, that's another of the many criminal events, many criminal events here.

I don't know, look, Brad. I got to get . . . I have to find 12,000 votes, and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. That's before we go to the next step, which is in the process of right now. You know, and I watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality.

But I mean all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it's very dangerous for you to say that.

I just, I just don't know why you don't want to have the votes counted as they are. Like even you when you went and did that check. And I was surprised because, you know . . . And we found a few thousand votes that were against me. I was actually surprised because the way that check was done, all you're doing, you know, recertifying existing votes and, you know, and you were given votes and you just counted them up, and you still found 3,000 that were bad. So that was sort of surprising that it came down to three or five, I don't know. Still a lot of votes. But you have to go back to check from past years with respect to signatures. And if you check with Fulton County, you'll have hundreds of thousands because they dumped ballots into Fulton County and the other county next to it.

So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going, but that's not fair to the voters of Georgia because they're going to see what happened, and they're going to see what happened. I mean, I'll, I'll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I'm sure. But, but [name] . . . I will take on anybody you want. And the minimum, there were 18,000 ballots, but they used them three times. So that's, you know, a lot of votes. And they were all to Biden, by the way, that's the other thing we didn't say. You know, [name] , the one thing I forgot to say, which was the most important. You know that every single ballot she did went to Biden. You know that, right? Do you know that, by the way, Brad?

Every single ballot that she did through the machines at early, early in the morning went to Biden. Did you know that, Ryan?

Germany: That's not accurate, Mr. President.

Trump: Huh. What is accurate?

Germany: The numbers that we are showing are accurate.

Trump: No, about [name] . About early in the morning, Ryan. Where the woman took, you know, when the whole gang took the stuff from under the table, right? Do you know, do you know who those ballots, do you know who they were made out to, do you know who they were voting for?

Germany: No, not specifically.

Trump: Did you ever check?

Germany: We did what I described to you earlier --

Trump: No no no -- did you ever check the ballots that were scanned by [name] , a known political operative, balloteer? Did ever check who those votes were for?

Germany: We looked into that situation that you described.

Trump: No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn't a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don't you want to find this, Ryan? What's wrong with you? I heard your lawyer is very difficult, actually, but I'm sure you're a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.

But, but I'm just curious, why wouldn't, why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn't make sense. We're way over the 17,779, right? We're way over that number, and just if you took just [name] , we're over that number by five, five or six times when you multiply that times three.

And every single ballot went to Biden, and you didn't know that, but now you know it. So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it's not fair to take it away from us like this. And it's going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you're going to reexamine it, and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don't want to find answers. For instance, I'm hearing Ryan that he's probably, I'm sure a great lawyer and everything, but he's making statements about those ballots that he doesn't know. But he's making them with such -- he did make them with surety. But now I think he's less sure because the answer is, they all went to Biden, and that alone wins us the election by a lot. You know, so.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, you have people that submit information, and we have our people that submit information. And then it comes before the court, and the court then has to make a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right.

Trump: Why do you say that, though? I don't know. I mean, sure, we can play this game with the courts, but why do you say that? First of all, they don't even assign us a judge. They don't even assign us a judge. But why wouldn't you . . . Hey Brad, why wouldn't you want to check out [name] ? And why wouldn't you want to say, hey, if in fact, President Trump is right about that, then he wins the state of Georgia, just that one incident alone without going through hundreds of thousands of dropped ballots. You just say, you stick by, I mean I've been watching you, you know, you don't care about anything. "Your numbers are right." But your numbers aren't right. They're really wrong, and they're really wrong, Brad. And I know this phone call is going nowhere other than, other than ultimately, you know -- Look, ultimately, I win, okay? Because you guys are so wrong. And you treated this. You treated the population of Georgia so badly. You, between you and your governor, who is down at 21, he was down 21 points. And like a schmuck, I endorsed him, and he got elected, but I will tell you, he is a disaster.

The people are so angry in Georgia, I can't imagine he's ever getting elected again, I'll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn't you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? 'Cause those numbers are so wrong?

Mitchell: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President, one of the things that we have been, Alex can talk about this, we talked about it, and I don't know whether the information has been conveyed to your office, but I think what the president is saying, and what we've been trying to do is to say, look, the court is not acting on our petition. They haven't even assigned a judge. But the people of Georgia and the people of America have a right to know the answers. And you have data and records that we don't have access to.

And you can keep telling us and making public statement that you investigated this and nothing to see here. But we don't know about that. All we know is what you tell us. What I don't understand is why wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest to try to get to the bottom, compare the numbers, you know, if you say, because . . . to try to be able to get to the truth because we don't have any way of confirming what you're telling us. You tell us that you had an investigation at the State Farm Arena. I don't have any report. I've never seen a report of investigation. I don't know that is. I've been pretty involved in this, and I don't know. And that's just one of 25 categories. And it doesn't even. And as I, as the president said, we haven't even gotten into the Dominion issue. That's not part of our case. It's not part of, we just didn't feel as though we had any to be able to develop --

Trump: No, we do have a way, but I don't want to get into it. We found a way . . . excuse me, but we don't need it because we're only down 11,000 votes, so we don't even need it. I personally think they're corrupt as hell. But we don't need that. All we have to do, Cleta, is find 11,000-plus votes. So we don't need that. I'm not looking to shake up the whole world. We won Georgia easily. We won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But if you go by basic, simple numbers, we won it easily, easily. So we're not giving Dominion a pass on the record. We don't need Dominion because we have so many other votes that we don't need to prove it any more than we already have.

Trump attorney Kurt Hilbert: Mr. President and Cleta, this is Kurt Hilbert, if I might interject for a moment. Ryan, I would like to suggest that just four categories that have already been mentioned by the president that have actually hard numbers of 24,149 votes that were counted illegally. That in and of itself is sufficient to change the results or place the outcome in doubt. We would like to sit down with your office, and we can do it through purposes of compromise and just like this phone call, just to deal with that limited category of votes. And if you are able to establish that our numbers are not accurate, then fine. However, we believe that they are accurate. We've had now three to four separate experts looking at these numbers.

Trump: Certified accountants looked at them.

Hilbert: Correct. And this is just based on USPS data and your own secretary of state data. So that's what we would entreat and ask you to do, to sit down with us in a compromise and settlements proceeding and actually go through the registered voter IDs and the registrations. And if you can convince us that 24,149 is inaccurate, then fine. But we tend to believe that is, you know, obviously more than 11,779. That's sufficient to change the results entirely in and of itself. So what would you say to that, Mr. Germany?

Germany: I'm happy to get with our lawyers, and we'll set that up. That number is not accurate. And I think we can show you, for all the ones we've looked at, why it's not. And so if that would be helpful, I'm happy to get with our lawyers and set that up with you guys.

Trump: Well, let me ask you, Kurt, you think that is an accurate number. That was based on the information given to you by the secretary of state's department, right?

Hilbert: That is correct. That information is the minimum, most conservative data based upon the USPS data and the secretary of state's office data that has been made publicly available. We do not have the internal numbers from the secretary of state. Yet we have asked for it six times. I sent a letter over to . . . several times requesting this information, and it's been rebuffed every single time. So it stands to reason that if the information is not forthcoming, there's something to hide. That's the problem that we have.

Germany: Well, that's not the case, sir. There are things that you guys are entitled to get. And there's things that under law, we are not allowed to give out.

Trump: Well, you have to. Well, under law, you're not allowed to give faulty election results, okay? You're not allowed to do that. And that's what you done. This is a faulty election result. And honestly, this should go very fast. You should meet tomorrow because you have a big election coming up, and because of what you've done to the president -- you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam -- and because of what you've done to the president, a lot of people aren't going out to vote. And a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they're going to vote. And you would be respected. Really respected, if this thing could be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday. And I think that it is really is important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers. Because I know, Brad, that if you think we're right, I think you're going to say, and I'm not looking to blame anybody, I'm just saying, you know, and, you know, under new counts, and under new views, of the election results, we won the election. You know? It's very simple. We won the election. As the governors of major states and the surrounding states said, there is no way you lost Georgia. As the Georgia politicians say, there is no way you lost Georgia. Nobody. Everyone knows I won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But I'll tell you it's going to have a big impact on Tuesday if you guys don't get this thing straightened out fast.

Meadows: Mr. President, this is Mark. It sounds like we've got two different sides agreeing that we can look at those areas, and I assume that we can do that within the next 24 to 48 hours, to go ahead and get that reconciled so that we can look at the two claims and making sure that we get the access to the secretary of state's data to either validate or invalidate the claims that have been made. Is that correct?

Germany: No, that's not what I said. I'm happy to have our lawyers sit down with Kurt and the lawyers on that side and explain to him, hey, here's, based on what we've looked at so far, here's how we know this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong.

Meadows: So what you're saying, Ryan, let me let me make sure . . . so what you're saying is you really don't want to give access to the data. You just want to make another case on why the lawsuit is wrong?

Germany: I don't think we can give access to data that's protected by law. But we can sit down with them and say --

Trump: But you're allowed to have a phony election? You're allowed to have a phony election, right?

Germany: No, sir.

Trump: When are you going to do signature counts, when are you going to do signature verification on Fulton County, which you said you were going to do, and now all of a sudden, you're not doing it. When are you doing that?

Germany: We are going to do that. We've announced --

Hilbert: To get to this issue of the personal information and privacy issue, is it possible that the secretary of state could deputize the lawyers for the president so that we could access that information and private information without you having any kind of violation?

Trump: Well, I don't want to know who it is. You guys can do it very confidentially. You can sign a confidentiality agreement. That's okay. I don't need to know names. But on this stuff that we're talking about, we got all that information from the secretary of state.

Meadows: Yeah. So let me let me recommend, Ryan, if you and Kurt will get together, you know, when we get off of this phone call, if you could get together and work out a plan to address some of what we've got with your attorneys where we can we can actually look at the data. For example, Mr. Secretary, I can you say they were only two dead people who would vote. I can promise you there are more than that. And that may be what your investigation shows, but I can promise you there are more than that. But at the same time, I think it's important that we go ahead and move expeditiously to try to do this and resolve it as quickly as we possibly can. And if that's the good next step. Hopefully we can, we can finish this phone call and go ahead and agree that the two of you will get together immediately.

Trump: Well, why don't my lawyers show you where you got the information. It will show the secretary of state, and you don't even have to look at any names. We don't want names. We don't care. But we got that information from you. And Stacey Abrams is laughing about you. She's going around saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she's done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you. And I only ran against her once. And that was with a guy named Brian Kemp, and I beat her. And if I didn't run, Brian wouldn't have had even a shot, either in the general or in the primary. He was dead, dead as a doornail. He never thought he had a shot at either one of them. What a schmuck I was. But that's the way it is. That's the way it is. I would like you . . . for the attorneys . . . I'd like you to perhaps meet with Ryan, ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution of this before the election. Otherwise you're going to have people just not voting. They don't want to vote. They hate the state, they hate the governor, and they hate the secretary of state. I will tell you that right now. The only people that like you are people that will never vote for you. You know that, Brad, right? They like you, you know, they like you. They can't believe what they found. They want more people like you. So, look, can you get together tomorrow? And, Brad, we just want the truth. It's simple.

And everyone's going to look very good if the truth comes out. It's okay. It takes a little while, but let the truth come out. And the real truth is, I won by 400,000 votes. At least. That's the real truth. But we don't need 400,000 votes. We need less than 2,000 votes. And are you guys able to meet tomorrow, Ryan?

Germany: I'll get with Chris, the lawyer who's representing us in the case, and see when he can get together with Kurt.

Raffensperger: Ryan will be in touch with the other attorney on this call, Mr. Meadows. Thank you, President Trump, for your time.

Trump: Okay, thank you, Brad. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you very much. Bye.

[Jan 04, 2021] Trump as an experiment. The danger for costal elite is that with such a blatant election manipulation they might eventually get a pretty harsh treatment

Jan 04, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Jan 4 2021 0:56 utc | 55

Jackrabbit #45

Another scenario I consider is that the permanent state preferred Trump to win in 2016 as they could test his blatant nationalism and MAGA concept to push the overton window waaayyy to the right and simultaneously poke Russia, China, Iran to test their malleability in the face of provocation. They were gaming in real time to assess their next strategy which was to return the D party (without Clinton) to the Presidency and Congress in 2020 being certain that their return would be further beneficial to wage aggression across the globe and enrich the Banks and MIC. I say - without Clinton - as they likely found her too big for her boots or damaged goods beyond redemption and therefore unfit for their safe use.

It keeps solid perimeters around the two party system
It further drives the trigger happy rightist cells to better organise and maintain their rage
It binds the left and reinforces the permanent state's manipulation of the fringe such as the Democratic Socialist party
It enlarges the use of wedge politics to suppress any chance of progressive legislation in a crisis

That way they maintain their capacity to steer both parties and the legislative agenda behind their opaque wall.


NemesisCalling , Jan 4 2021 1:07 utc | 56

The reemergence of the remaining loyalists to the U.S. Constitution and a truth and reconciliation moment where these coastal elites, who facilitated this arrangement and continue to administer this with China, will be given the Nuremberg treatment. That is the trajectory of history from my vantage point.

The west is in for some hard times but it is indeed for the best for the supremacy of natural religions to reemerge as victors in the Hegelian dialectic of which the globalists have tried in vain to put a lid on.

Jackrabbit , Jan 4 2021 0:12 utc | 45

Whose the goat? 'Sore loser' Trump? or Corrupt Biden?

For most, "the answer" depends on their own partisan leanings.

But I think that MAGA! is a core part of the strategy to counter Russia and China, not simply a campaign slogan to be discarded. That strategy was first described by Kissinger in a WSJ Op-Ed 10 months before Trump became the MAGA! candidate.

To breathe life into that strategy requires what Trump termed winning . Winning instills confidence and pride. And we've seen Trump's winning abilities in partisan kayfabe: the Democrats feeble/fake "resistance" has resulted in several big wins for Trump: the Russiagate investigation came up empty; Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh was confirmed despite loud objections; the impeachment trial was a farce; Flynn was found to have been set-up. Then Trump topped it off with a resounding (and very suspicious) "defeat" of Covid-19 via American bio-tech, principally Regeneron and Remdesivir.

Is this glorious streak of MAGA! winning ending? Is that what a Deep State planner would like to see?

I doubt it.

Trump was warning about mail-in ballots in early Summer. And political "war games" were conducted at about the same time :

They met virtually on Zoom, four days over two weeks in June, to hold simulations known in the military and intelligence communities as "war games."

There were 67 players – many of them high-profile critics of President Donald Trump – including law professors, retired military officers, former senior U.S. officials, political strategists and attorneys.

Instead of mapping out a geopolitical conflict, the group peered ahead to the Nov. 3 election, now less than 90 days away, and explored how the race between Trump and Joe Biden could turn into a post-election crisis.

John Podesta, a former top aide to President Barack Obama and President Bill Clinton's former chief of staff, played Biden. Two outspoken Republican critics of Trump, David Frum and Bill Kristol, portrayed the president.

After gaming out various scenarios, the group said its conclusions were "alarming:" In an election taking place amid a pandemic, a recession and rising political polarization, the group found a substantial risk of legal battles, a contested outcome, violent street clashes and even a constitutional impasse.

"We assess with a high degree of likelihood that November's elections will be marked by a chaotic legal and political landscape," the Transition Integrity Project, which organized the "war games," said in a report this week.


It should be clear that the research and planning for "war games" with 67 players would have begun months before June 2020.

Does anyone think that people like Podesta, Kristol, and Frum have our best interests at heart? As oglalla @Jan3 19:12 #22 notes, the prospect of a Trump win is scary because (as in 2016) it would be arranged for a frightening purpose: to ensure that USA/West continue and extend their global dominance up to and including war.

It has been argued by some at moa that Biden is WORSE than Trump on foreign policy (because his FP is supposedly driven by the Deep State while Trump's is not). Biden, like Hillary Bush McCain Brennan etc, is a Deep Stater and avowed Zionist. He will not undo anything Trump has done.

The advantage to the Deep State of Trump instead of Biden is that Trump is: 1) a better communicator and 2) closely associated with MAGA! patriots (aka white people). The US military has never forgotten the cardinal lesson of Vietnam: the war was lost on the homefront. And it wasn't hippies or marches in support of black civil rights protesters that caused that, it was the disillusionment of the white middle-class.

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[Jan 04, 2021] I just want to know one thing from you: Do you honestly believe Trump won the Election?

Jan 04, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Dr. George W Oprisko , Jan 4 2021 2:47 utc | 61

I just want to know one thing from you: Do you honestly believe Trump won the Election?

And then explain why Republicans have no problem with the results down the ballot?

It's okay to clamor and protest for more social justice, but what is not okay is to overturn a process where people actually exercised their will and in numbers historically unprecedented.

If you destroy fact with fiction and eliminate the will of 81,000,000 people; 7 Million more than Trump got, then does anything else matter?

Don't skirt the question: Do you believe Trump won the election?

I'll answer with numbers.....

It is acknowledged that Trump got 74 million votes.

There were 156 million voters registered....

About 62% voted... == 97 million voted.

That leaves 23 million for Biden....

This accords with the number of people at his rallies compared to those attending Trump's rallies....

Then there is the not too small issue of the 1998 Unanimous Supreme Court Decision in the Louisiana case...

"The election must occur on one day... It ends at midnight on that day"

Given that is the case... all votes not counted by midnight on 3 Nov should have been discarded... or the vote nullified...

That requirement alone would give PA, WI, GA, AZ, to Trump because he was leading in those states prior to midnight. Were this to happen Trump would win hands down....

So, to answer your question.... Trump won... Biden lost...

But to go further... Putting Biden in the Oval Office represents a loss for the electorate. Biden is corrupt, his entire career has been one trying to eliminate Social Security and other entitlement programs including Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, and AFDC. Biden is for all intents and purposes, in-competent.

The democrats should have gone with Vermont Senator Sanders... Who is not a Marxist, by any measure.

I'd much prefer Sanders... as would almost all US Citizens....

INDY

[Jan 03, 2021] Remember When The Democrats Challenged The Electoral Vote Count In 3 Elections Over 20 Years

Jan 03, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Silvio Canto Jr., via AmericanThinker.com,

What do 2001, 2005, and 2017 have in common? We inaugurated three GOP presidents, and Democrats challenged their electoral vote each time.

Yes, three for two, or three times for the last two GOP presidents sworn in.

Check out Senator Van Hollen :

Sen. Hawley's actions are grossly irresponsible.

He's attempting to undermine our democratic process, fuel Trump's lies about voter fraud, and delay the certification of Biden's win.

In the end, this reckless stunt will fail, and Joe Biden will become President on Jan. 20, 2021.

[Jan 03, 2021] Ex-CIA congressman says disputing election results helps America's enemies STEAL ELECTIONS just what the CIA always did!

Jan 03, 2021 | www.rt.com

After pushing phony stories of 'Russian interference' and working for an agency that interferes in elections, ex-CIA agent now Congressman Will Hurd thinks the GOP should accept Joe Biden's win, or risk helping the US' "enemies."

A dozen Republican Senators are getting set to object to the Electoral College's certification of Joe Biden's win in November, unless an "emergency 10-day audit" is held in a number of key swing states won by Biden. The move is also backed by a number of Republican representatives in the House.

However, there's a rival faction of Republicans who want to put allegations of Democrat fraud behind them and go back to business as usual under a Biden administration. Outgoing Texas Rep. Will Hurd is one of them, and he made a novel argument against questioning the election on Saturday.

"When I was undercover at the CIA, I saw firsthand how our enemies steal elections and try to interfere in ours," he tweeted. "Elected officials continuing to sow doubt amongst the public for petty political gain is playing into our enemies' hands."

As for who these "enemies" are, Hurd was presumably referring to the reliable old specter of "the Russians." Throughout Trump's four years in office, Hurd has repeatedly claimed that Moscow meddled in the 2016 election, despite there literally being zero proof for these claims.

" This is honestly one of the most hilarious mega-viral tweets I've ever seen on Twitter," journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted. In a follow-up tweet, Greenwald joked that Hurd "must have been in a different part of the CIA" than former Director James Woolsey, who told Fox News' Laura Ingraham in 2018 that his agency had meddled in European elections during the Cold War "in order to avoid the Communists taking over," and continues to dabble in election meddling, but "only for a very good cause.

Hurd was mocked on all sides. First for condemning election interference from an agency famed for interfering in elections

... ... ...

And then for bragging about his undercover status...

[Jan 02, 2021] -11 Senate Republicans say they will object to Electoral College results Wednesday- The Hill - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Jan 02, 2021 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"11 Senate Republicans say they will object to Electoral College results Wednesday" The Hill

"Eleven Senate Republicans on Saturday announced that they will object to the Electoral College results Wednesday, when Congress convenes in a joint session to formally count the vote.

GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wis.), James Lankford (Okla.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Kennedy (La.), Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.) and Mike Braun (Ind.) and Sens.-elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Bill Hagerty (Tenn.) and Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) said in a joint statement that they will object to the election results until there is a 10-day audit.

"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states," they said. "Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on Jan. 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed," they added.

The group's announcement means that at least a dozen GOP senators will object on Wednesday." The Hill

[Jan 02, 2021] Ted Cruz Leads Senators In Challenge To Wednesday Electoral Count; Demands Emergency Audit - ZeroHedge

Jan 02, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Ted Cruz Leads Senators In Challenge To Wednesday Electoral Count; Demands Emergency Audit BY TYLER DURDEN SATURDAY, JAN 02, 2021 - 13:25

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is leading a group of 11 Senators who plan to object to certifying state Electoral College votes on Wednesday.

The group, which includes Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), James Lankford (R-Okla.), Steve Daines (R-Mont.), John Kennedy (R-La.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), and Mike Braun (R-Ind.), and Senators-Elect Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.), Roger Marshall (R-Kan.), Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.), and Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), are also calling for the resurrection of an Electoral Commission to conduct an emergency audit of the results .

According to Axios , the move pits the group of GOP Senators against Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who had 'hoped to avoid the spectacle of his party leading a last-ditch effort to prevent Joe Biden from being declared the 2020 election winner.'

The move comes after Sen. Josh Howley (R-MO) said that he would raise a general objection .

"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed," the eleven Senators said in a statement.

Notably, Democrats have raised similar election challenges in the past.

The last three times a Republican has been elected president -- Trump in 2016 and George W. Bush in both 2000 and 2004 -- Democrats in the House have brought objections to the electoral votes in states the GOP nominee won . In early 2005 specifically, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., along with Rep. Stephanie Tubbs, D-Ohio, objected to Bush's 2004 electoral votes in Ohio. -PJ Media

See below for the full text of a joint statement from the Cruz-led coalition :

"America is a Republic whose leaders are chosen in democratic elections. Those elections, in turn, must comply with the Constitution and with federal and state law.

"When the voters fairly decide an election, pursuant to the rule of law, the losing candidate should acknowledge and respect the legitimacy of that election. And, if the voters choose to elect a new office-holder, our Nation should have a peaceful transfer of power.

"The election of 2020, like the election of 2016, was hard fought and, in many swing states, narrowly decided. The 2020 election, however, featured unprecedented allegations of voter fraud, violations and lax enforcement of election law, and other voting irregularities.

"Voter fraud has posed a persistent challenge in our elections, although its breadth and scope are disputed. By any measure, the allegations of fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes.

"And those allegations are not believed just by one individual candidate. Instead, they are widespread. Reuters/Ipsos polling , tragically, shows that 39% of Americans believe 'the election was rigged.' That belief is held by Republicans (67%), Democrats (17%), and Independents (31%).

"Some Members of Congress disagree with that assessment, as do many members of the media.

"But, whether or not our elected officials or journalists believe it, that deep distrust of our democratic processes will not magically disappear. It should concern us all. And it poses an ongoing threat to the legitimacy of any subsequent administrations.

"Ideally, the courts would have heard evidence and resolved these claims of serious election fraud. Twice, the Supreme Court had the opportunity to do so; twice, the Court declined.

"On January 6, it is incumbent on Congress to vote on whether to certify the 2020 election results. That vote is the lone constitutional power remaining to consider and force resolution of the multiple allegations of serious voter fraud.

"At that quadrennial joint session, there is long precedent of Democratic Members of Congress raising objections to presidential election results, as they did in 1969, 2001, 2005, and 2017. And, in both 1969 and 2005, a Democratic Senator joined with a Democratic House Member in forcing votes in both houses on whether to accept the presidential electors being challenged.

"The most direct precedent on this question arose in 1877, following serious allegations of fraud and illegal conduct in the Hayes-Tilden presidential race. Specifically, the elections in three states-Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina-were alleged to have been conducted illegally.

"In 1877, Congress did not ignore those allegations, nor did the media simply dismiss those raising them as radicals trying to undermine democracy. Instead, Congress appointed an Electoral Commission-consisting of five Senators, five House Members, and five Supreme Court Justices-to consider and resolve the disputed returns.

"We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed.

"We are not naïve. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise. But support of election integrity should not be a partisan issue. A fair and credible audit-conducted expeditiously and completed well before January 20-would dramatically improve Americans' faith in our electoral process and would significantly enhance the legitimacy of whoever becomes our next President. We owe that to the People.

"These are matters worthy of the Congress, and entrusted to us to defend. We do not take this action lightly. We are acting not to thwart the democratic process, but rather to protect it. And every one of us should act together to ensure that the election was lawfully conducted under the Constitution and to do everything we can to restore faith in our Democracy."

WorldView 14 minutes ago remove link

Precisely because it was a rigged election, and both the Deep State and the Lawmakers, will have nothing to do with looking into possible widespread fraud.

There is only one solution that is fair and moral.

Re-do the election.

A citizen must vote in person, and show ID.

Military and nursing homes are allowed to Absentee Vote. All others, vote in person.

If you can't get up off your *** and walk down to the polling station, then you don't deserve to vote.

Once we do this, I will, for one, accept any result.

Otherwise, this was a sham election, which will have incredible ill-results for America.

[Jan 02, 2021] Orwell taught us how to understand double-speak "Most secure" translates to "rigged"

Notable quotes:
"... If this is the cleanest election ever, omg can you imagine what's went on in the past! ..."
Dec 30, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Trump Team Hacks Dominion Machine In Real Time During Senate Hearing! - YouTube

Violence is Life , 2 days ago

Orwell taught us how to understand double-speak "Most secure" translates to "rigged"

Jason Stewart , 2 days ago

If this is the cleanest election ever, omg can you imagine what's went on in the past!

Cameron Gunn , 2 days ago

Did you hear the Democrats screaming for him to shut up? This shit is hilarious

Phalanx443 , 1 day ago

It's like peeling an onion. Each layer reveals more corruption. I cannot wait to see how this movie ends!

[Jan 02, 2021] Trump Team Hacks Dominion Machine In Real Time During Senate Hearing!

So WiFi was on.
Dec 30, 2020 | www.youtube.com
On Wednesday during a hearing in front of Georgia State Senators, inventor Jovan Pulitzer testified that his team found a polling location in Fulton County, GA, that was connected to the internet so they were able to hack into the Dominion Voting machines system and take over the poll pad and establish a two way communication of sending and receiving data. All this was happening in real-time while Mr. Pulitzer was testifying.

Poll locations are not supposed to have internet access. The polling site in question is being used for the current Georgia Senate runoff elections so this confirms that the runoff is connected to the internet. It appears that the Georgia Senate runoff elections are rigged just like the 2020 election. Are you okay with this? Stay tuned!



David Mel
, 2 days ago

Remember these machines were created for elections in 3rd world countries.


Dr. Calvin
, 2 days ago

This means the whole election was a fraud. Throw the disputed ballots out, PERIOD!!!


Henry1965ism
, 2 days ago

MSM: "The Dominion voting machines were hacked in real time during a Senate hearing but Trump has not provided any evidence of election fraud."

Violence is Life , 2 days ago

Orwell taught us how to understand double-speak "Most secure" translates to "rigged"


Johnny Rotten
, 2 days ago

It's incredible that this isn't plastered alll over the news


Bruce McKnight
, 2 days ago

The problem with the indisputable evidence isn't that it's being disputed. It's being blatantly ignored. We are losing our country, our middle class and our freedom because truly evil people are not being forced to follow the laws.


J Ad
, 1 day ago

"Most secure election ever" unless there is a smart thermostat in the room... or any wireless device... oh and the USB slots on the side of the machines... and then there is the free downloadable version of the code we used to program the machines... and the instructions on how to hack our machines on numerous websites... But other than that this is the most secure election ever.


michelle kincaid
, 2 days ago (edited)

There was a guy that testified a while back about the claim that these machines are not connected to the internet. I don't remember his name, which state, or anything like that. Just that he was on via a zoom call. Anyhow, this guy said that on election night there was a machine that wasn't working properly because it was coded to the wrong location or precinct. The poll Supervisor called support which i believe he said was in Colorado. They were able to remote into the computer & fix it. An internet connection must be present for remote support. The guy even had a print out record of the call.

[Jan 02, 2021] In 2020, Vote Fraud Claims Were Not 'Baseless' - Newsmax.com

Jan 02, 2021 | www.newsmax.com

Each time a member of the big media reports on someone referring to acts of fraud or even irregularities in the Nov. 3 presidential election, they describe them as "baseless claims" or "unproven."

Such words are included in almost wire story since election day published by the Associated Press, Reuters, Bloomberg, and others.

Actually, there are many examples of vote fraud that took place during the 2020 election, and serious evidence of voting irregularities relating to the main-in ballots.

Here is what we do know:

Nevada: The Silver State rushed a universal vote-by-mail measure through the legislature in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. The bill, known as AB 4, lacked safeguards to assure voter identity and was implemented without cleaning voter rolls of deceased voters, those who had moved, or who had become ineligible to vote.

Attorney Jesse Binnall testified before the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Dec. 16 as to what resulted.

He had proof of nearly 90,000 fraudulent or improper votes that were cast, including instances where:

Considering Biden took Nevada by 33,596 votes , these allegations are serious.

Arizona: The Arizona Republican Party alleges more than 100,000 ballots might have been improperly cast in the Grand Canyon State, including some 28,000 duplicated ballots in Maricopa County alone.

Arizona GOP party chairwoman Dr. Kelli Ward also addressed in one of her video reports the subject of "fake news" outlets, that tend to mischaracterize allegations of voter fraud.

"We are trying to have integrity in our electoral process," she said, adding: "We have every right to make legal challenges."

Again, only 10,457 votes separate Biden and President Donald Trump on Arizona, a 0.3% difference.

Wisconsin: President Trump's legal team sought to have some 221,000 ballots disqualified that were cast in the state's two most heavily Democratic counties -- Dane and Milwaukee.

At issue were incomplete absentee ballot envelopes where clerks filled in missing information, as well as those that were issued without a proper request, and still others that were the subject of ballot harvesting.

In a narrow 4-3 ruling, the Wisconsin Supreme Court rejected the challenge, claiming the campaign was "not entitled to the relief it seeks."

The campaign filed its petition for a writ of certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday.

Only 20,682 votes separate Trump and Biden in the Badger State, 0.61%.

One can hardly say this is a "baseless" claim, and pure reason has many people suspicious.

Biden underperformed Obama in 80% of Wisconsin counties but hugely outperformed in just five counties to win the state.

Michigan: While the Trump campaign has made an issue of the voting systems and software used throughout the state, allegations of widespread fraud remain unproven.

The Trump legal team has presented additional evidence of voter fraud and irregularities before the Michigan state Senate Oversight Committee on Dec. 1.

In one instance, a "Guard the Vote" volunteer testified he went through 30,000 of the 172,000 Detroit absentee ballots -- about 17%. Some 229 were dead voters and 2,660 listed invalid addresses.

Finally, Republican poll watchers were denied access for proper ballot monitoring due to alleged COVID-19 concerns.

Pennsylvania: Nothing about the Keystone State made sense.

Like Detroit, Philadelphia election officials denied Republican poll watchers adequate access into counting rooms, requiring them to seek a court order.

"Trump campaign staffers marched into the PA Convention Center with a court order giving them the right to stand 6 feet away from sorters, instead of the previously allotted 20 feet," reported CBS3 Philly reporter Alecia Reid.

Most recently, a group of 17 Republican state lawmakers released a blockbuster statement Monday, alleging 202,377 more votes were cast than there were voters who voted. State Rep. Frank Ryan, who has a background as a certified public accountant, led the investigation and released a statement.

"These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error," the statement said .

Georgia: The biggest bombshell was a video that appears to depict news media and poll watchers being ushered out of the counting room in an Atlanta tabulation center.

After all but a few workers left, suitcases of what appear to be ballots are removed from underneath a table and are run through machines.

Georgia failed to use signature verification and other measures to certify mail-in ballots. Rejection rates -- not allowing non-eligible mail-in ballots -- plummeted in 2020 from the 2018 election.

Other irregularities:

In addition to outright claims of fraud, state and local officials in at least four states -- Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia -- used the pandemic to make last-minute changes to their state voting laws.

The U.S. Constitution provides only each state legislature may set the time, place, and manner of elections.

This prompted Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to file a lawsuit against the four states with the United States Supreme Court for allegedly exploiting "the COVID-19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election."

In a statement he said, "Trust in the integrity of our election processes is sacrosanct and binds our citizenry and the States in this union together. Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin destroyed that trust and compromised the security and integrity of the 2020 election."

Despite the fact 18 more states signed on to Texas' petition, the Supreme Court dismissed the case, citing lack of standing. Only Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a student of history, compared the long list of anomalies to another election nearly 200 years in the past.

"The more data comes out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate the more it looks like 2020 may be the biggest presidential theft since Adams and Clay robbed Andrew Jackson in 1824," Gingrich tweeted . "State legislatures should demand recounts."

[Jan 01, 2021] House Republicans Plan To Object To Biden Electoral Votes

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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Republican Senate leadership opposes the planned objections. About two dozen GOP senators have said they will not object, while others have indicated opposition. A small group -- Sens. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), Rick Scott (R-Fla.), and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) -- have said they may object.

Virtually all Democrats have said they will not object, and have criticized those who plan to challenge votes. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's spokeswoman told reporters on Wednesday that the team views the counting of electoral votes as a mere formality, while House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) expressed confidence Biden would be confirmed as president-elect.

Here are the lawmakers planning on challenging votes:

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.)
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.)
Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.)
Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
Rep. Ted Budd (R-N.C.)
Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.)
Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas)
Rep. Jeff Van Drew (R-N.J.)
Rep. Mark Green (R-Tenn.)
Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.)
Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.)
Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.)
Rep.-elect Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)
Rep.-elect Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.)
Rep.-elect Barry Moore (R-Ala.)
Rep.-elect Bob Good (R-Va.)
Rep.-elect Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.)
Rep.-elect Ronny Jackson (R-Texas)
Rep.-elect Burgess Owens (R-Utah)
Rep.-elect Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.)
Rep.-elect Jerry Carl (R-Ala.)
Rep.-elect Yvette Herrell (R-N.M.)
Rep.-elect Diana Harshbarger (R-Tenn.)

100 Republicans?

Kicking things up a notch is Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), who told "The Bulwark Podcast" that there could be " upwards of 100 " Republican lawmakers who object to Biden's Electoral College votes.

Via Jack Phillips from Epoch:

"I think you're going to have some people that come out and take a strong stand," he said, adding that " I'm not going to be surprised if it approaches three figures ."

In the podcast interview, Kinzinger said that he does not support the initiative to object to the votes led by Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.). Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) on Wednesday said he would join their challenge, becoming the first senator to do so.

The bid requires both a senator and a representative to carry out. An objection to any state by a representative and a senator will prompt up to two hours of debate in the Senate and House on whether to accept a state's Electoral College votes; it means that if the lawmakers object to more than one state, the procedure could last for hours.

Some GOP senators said that their challenge would fail.

" Senator Hawley has every right to object, " Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told Fox News on Thursday. " But it's another thing to overturn an election of another state ."

"If dead people were voting, I want the names," Graham added. "If you're going to retry the case in the Senate that's already been tried in the federal courts it would be hard for me to basically take over the federal courts' role. But I will listen and we'll see how it comes out."

[Jan 01, 2021] When a person files for an Affidavit. They are testifying as a witness to an oath that they speak only Truth can be punished to Prison if lied

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Mark W
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When a person files for an Affidavit. They are testifying as a witness to an oath that they speak only Truth & can be punished to Prison if lied. Therefore with all these thousands amount of Affidavits being filed all across U.S. are EVIDENCE of personal testimony of voter fraud.

[Jan 01, 2021] The Lesson Of 2020- What's The Point Of Pointing Out The Hypocrisy- - ZeroHedge

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

BY TYLER DURDEN THURSDAY, DEC 31, 2020 - 17:30

Authored by Tom Luongo via Gold, Goats, 'n Guns blog,

I've been on vacation in Mexico for the past two weeks. But that isn't the reason content from me has been scarcer than normal. Yes, vacations are supposed to be for recharging and taking a break from your routine.

But as I sat down to write this morning the overwhelming sense of futility washed over me . And nothing saps your will to work more than reading through the headlines and noting the complete lack of conscience on display by the media, our political leadership or frankly anyone with half a brain.

We live in a world today where the legislature of one of the most important states in the Union, Pennsylvania, released a report where more than 200,000 votes were counted than were actually cast. And no one in our media seems to think this is news.

[Jan 01, 2021] Georgia Judge (Sister Of Top Democrat) Reverses Order To End Voter Roll Clean-Up - ZeroHedge

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

As we detailed previously , U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner attracted considerable criticism when she declined to recuse herself from a challenge over voter eligibility. Gardner is the sister of Stacey Abrams who has led the effort to register voters in the state.

Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams speaks during a conversation about criminal justice reform at the New York Public Library in New York City on April 10, 2019. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Many felt it was inappropriate for Gardner to rule on the case, a concern that was magnified by her quick rejection of a purging of the rolls of roughly 4000 inactive voters .

Now, as Jonathan Turley details below , it appears that Gardner has not recused herself but did reverse herself . A new order has been issued, upholding the purge in the face of an appeal.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger took issue with the original order as fundamentally wrong as to the applicable Georgia election laws.

The new order is a substantial rollback on the original order and the change was praised by Raffensperger's office.

It will allow the requirement of provisional ballots from those voters. Gardner however directs that no challenges to their eligibility be upheld based exclusively on data in the National Change of Address Registry, which Democrats have challenged as unreliable.

At a time of heightened tensions over election integrity, Gardner's decision not to recuse herself fueled further uncertainty.

Stacey Abrams' organization Fair Fight donated $2.5 million to Senate Majority PAC.

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That is the group which used Majority Forward as its nonprofit arm, and the donation was the largest to Senate Majority PAC since the November election.

So Gardner is ruling on an issue closely associated with her sister and originally ruled in favor of the group which lists her sister's organization as its largest contributor.

At a minimum, that creates an appearance of a conflict.

I can understand Judge Gardner's view that there is no real conflict. These two very successful women continue to work in the same state. Judge Gardner may have been concerned that a recusal would encourage endless such challenges over tangential links to her sister's work.

Yet, she could have recused while stressing that this is a unique time and a unique set of circumstances. A recusal could have been simply a recognition of the court that her familial tie could undermine confidence in the review. 33,584
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JamesJOMeara 8 hours ago

Judge rules blah blah blah, who fracking cares? One result of 2020 not much noticed is the complete and total loss of legitimacy by the judiciary. There have always been corrupt or just dumb judges, but the clown car of post-2016 "decisions" and "rulings" has render the judiciary completely lacking in all authority or even respect. Every decision or refusal to decide at all (more common now, as they think, like Pilate, that it absolves them of guilt) has been clearly political; all predictable once you know their party affiliation. District Judges in Bumfuk Hawaii or Arkansas overrule the President at will; the treatment of Michel Flynn -- the judge insisting on rendering a "decision" even when the Justice Department dropped the case, like the Red Queen -- etc. etc. American Jurisprudence has been boiled down to pure Leninism: who/whom. Makes things simple, especially for the courts, but renders them of as little interest to Americans as an election in Mali or the goal of "Greater Serbia".

[Jan 01, 2021] Pennsylvania lawmakers concluded that "Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification Of Presidential Results Premature and In Error."

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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Stunning turn of events in PA may lead to Trump victory On Dec. 28, Pennsylvania lawmakers concluded that "Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification Of Presidential Results Premature and In Error."

President Trump tweeted about it:

Breaking News: In Pennsylvania there were 205,000 more votes than there were voters. This alone flips the state to President Trump.

The key paragraphs from the PA lawmakers' two-page statement:

A comparison of official county election results to the total number of voters who voted on November 3, 2020 as recorded by the Department of State shows that 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted. Among the 6,962,607 total ballots cast, 6,931,060 total votes were counted in the presidential race, including all three candidates on the ballot and write-in candidates.

The difference of 202,377 more votes cast than voters voting, together with the 31,547 over- and under-votes in the presidential race, adds up to an alarming discrepancy of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between the two major candidates for President of the United States. On November 24, 2020, Boockvar certified election results, and Wolf issued a certificate of ascertainment of presidential electors, stating that Vice President Joe Biden received 80,555 more votes than President Donald Trump.

The PA lawmakers have done their job (so far). Now what is the next step? These lawmakers need to recall the slate of electors and tell the House and Senate that the election results cannot be ascertained in their state. They should probably hold a vote that overturns the certification of the awful election. The bottom line is that the slate of electors is not permitted to vote on Jan. 6.

This reasonable and fair action may have a domino effect on the other embattled states, whose lawmakers should follow suit. If this happens, Trump will win in the Electoral College. (I had erroneously stated that if no one reaches 270 votes, then the House decides.) Instead, the Twelfth Amendment states: "[T]he votes shall then be counted[.] ... The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President[.]"

But will PA's Legislature, where the real power resides, do this? And will the other embattled states do the same? If so, then Trump (rightly) wins: 232 to 222. This is the best, constitutionally speaking, and probably the only real option remaining for Trump.

Therefore, the solution is, once again, that we the people need to put maximum pressure on the heroic and truthful PA legislators to send word to the House and Senate, reminding them that the legislatures decide things, not a governor or a secretary of state. They should even hold a vote, overturning the certification of the election. And we need to put the same pressure on the legislatures of the other embattled states, where fraud obviously happened, to follow Pennsylvania's lead. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/stunning_turn_of_events_in_pa_may_lead_to_trump_victory.html _arrow 1

Hipneck911 6 hours ago

Are all you commie losers just too stupid or to lazy to look things up?

BREAKING: Members of PA House and Senate Write Letter to McConnell and McCarthy to Dispute Fraudulent Election Results After 205,000 Bogus Votes Discovered

PerilouseTimes 10 hours ago remove link

All a show. We know Trump won the election. They kicked out poll watchers and counted votes in the middle of night when no one was watching. Why all the if irregularities exist crap? You are being played once again by fake politicians.

[Jan 01, 2021] Wayne Dupree -- With just 20 days left to save President Trump - and America - we need to act decisively now

Jan 01, 2021 | www.rt.com

Before I really get into my message, let me remind you that we Americans created this situation that we find ourselves currently in. We sold them enough rope to hang us. We did nothing when they attempted to frame our president and remove him from office. The Russia Hoax, the Ukraine Hoax, the spying on his campaign, and then finally the phony impeachment.

We didn't stand up when we were needed, which gave the politicians we elected the confidence to steal an election with absolutely no resistance or fear. Harsh words, maybe, but truth will always win in the end.

We the people repeatedly elected self-promoting, self-protecting RINOs (like Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney and many others) who sought personal wealth and joining the globalist payroll – and fell into the trap of voting for them to avoid the Democrat alternative. The consequence is that this cabal/consortium will now be installed permanently with no remedy – except for civil war, the most cleansing of remedies but with the very highest cost across all groups.

I heard President Trump was making his way back to DC after New Years to attend a rally. It's gonna take more than another damn rally to fight this monstrous electoral fraud. And telling people to vote for more feckless and gutless Republicans won't mean crap either when voting itself is a rigged sucker's game.

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Those in power only look for more ways to gain additional power. The Constitution does not allow for legislative agencies outside of Congress. All federal agencies that have any rulemaking power must be ended, along with the entire leadership team of the FBI, DOJ, ATF, and others. They have become so corrupted that they must be cut, or we're headed for major trouble.

The FBI and DOJ are not late out of the gate; they are important members of the opposition. If there are any patriots left in those agencies, they are cowards by remaining silent, especially when decent, honest citizens put their livelihoods on the line as witnesses, when those who swore an oath renege.

[Jan 01, 2021] Swiss bank majority-owned by communist China paid Dominion parent company $400 million

Jan 01, 2021 | noqreport.com

Less than a month before the election, a Swiss bank that is 75 percent owned by communist China forked over $400 million in cash to Staple Street Capital, the parent company of Dominion Voting Systems.

Article originally published at Natural News .

Dominion, which operates electronic voting machines in 28 states, has been the subject of election fraud inquiries and lawsuits alleging that the machines and their software switched, altered and deleted votes on behalf of Joe Biden.

As first reported by Infowars , an SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) filing from Oct. 8 shows that Staple Street Capital received $400 million "with the Sales Compensation Recipient identified as UBS Securities." Back in Dec. 2014, $200 million was received by Staple Street Capital from the same source.

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In other words, UBS Securities is a 100 percent Chinese-owned corporation, and it gave nearly half a billion dollars to a company that runs most of America's elections, just days before the most contested and obviously fraudulent election in American history.

[Jan 01, 2021] Deliberatly misprinting special "scanner alignment" marks (aka the Registration Marks) on ballots in "undesirable" areas so that they were put is special folder by the scanner as a new election fraud method created by voting mashines

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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"We're In" – Witness Testifies Dominion Voting Equipment, and Internal Data, Hacked Live During Georgia Senate Hearing

https: // theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/30/witness-testifies-dominion-voting-equipment-and-internal-data-hacked-live-during-georgia-senate-hearing/

Graphic designer's take on the ballot misprints

Her twitter thread on ballots in Georgia.

https: // twitter.com/sherrieengler/status/1344490971648716800?s=21

1. As a Graphic Designer with a degree, I didn't understand why so many ballots were spit out as unreadable by the voting machines on November 3rd. But after watching Jovan Pulitzers testimony today in Georgia I now completely understand. Let me explain..

2. As a graphic designer all elements/layers of my design must line up in order to print on the paper properly. Otherwise it can put out blurred images on the final product at the printing shop. The printing machines follow something put on my art/documents

3. called "Registration Marks". Every student in Graphic Designer in college is stressed that these are never to be off or you are wasting the printers time and the clients time. Which is very bad, graphic designers get fired for this.

4. Back in the old days when we did this work by hand it was easy to make these mistakes, before the computers I'm dating myself here because that's when I started before computers. Now I design everything on computers that go to a printer.

5. On computer software, say photoshop for example, we no longer make these mistakes because the software sets all registration marks electronically every time in every layer of our art/document. In Mr. Pulitzers testimony he points out that

6. the Registration Marks (he called bullseye/target) are not lined up in the predominantly Republican areas voters voting papers. And he shows you that the Democratic areas voters voting papers are perfectly accurate Registration Marks. See below

7. You can see the Republican areas voter documents were off on the Registration Marks. Very off. Because these are documents meant to be scanned by a counter, those bad Registration Marks will toss the document out as uncountable.

8. Why was this print run allowed to proceed? Any print manager would have seen this in the printers proof and rejected the print run. How did the Registration Marks get misaligned?

9. Who printed these ballots? I have more that a few questions for them, like who designed these Republican areas ballots? Why weren't they corrected? Why are the missing barcodes on the Democrat ballots? I can think of many more questions. I bet you can too.

10. I bet I'm not the only Graphic Designer out there today to make this connection finally to the tabulation machines rejection rates now.

11. Jovan Pulitzer's testimony today if you want to watch.

https: // youtu.be/_PpyoYlGqBg

[Jan 01, 2021] The most basic job of the Supreme Court is settling disputes among states. It failed to do that in the case of Texas complain

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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'Standing' is a basic legal concept. It means that (a) you were or clearly will be injured not in some abstract way, but in reality, and (b) the injury is such that the court you ask for relief can do something about it.

The most basic job of the Supreme Court is settling disputes among states. Texas claimed it was and would be injured by widespread election fraud in other states. The Supreme Court said "No, you won't actually be hurt by that."

In other words, the Supreme Court simply got it wrong. That's not a problem with law or a legal concept, it's dishonorable conduct by seven little old ladies on our top court.

Dishonorable conduct often stinks; as you say "doesn't pass the smell test."

[Jan 01, 2021] Multiple GOP Senators Announce Plans To Challenge Electoral College Results

It looks like neoliberal Dems created constitutional crisis.
Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (1250ET): Two more lawmakers have joined Hawley with planned objections to the count during the January 6 vote. Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-TN) and Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) are also planning to object, according to Bloomberg , along with Rep. Marjorie Greene (R-GA).

That said, it may be all for nothing if rumors are true Pelosi and McConnell are working together to change the rules and block objections.

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Authored by Jack Phillips via The Epoch Times,

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) said he will object during the counting of the Electoral College vote process on Jan. 6, becoming the first senator to confirm they are joining an effort launched by more than a dozen House Republicans.

" I cannot vote to certify the electoral college results on Jan. 6 without raising the fact that some states, particularly Pennsylvania, failed to follow their own state election laws ," Hawley wrote in a statement on Monday.

"And I cannot vote to certify without pointing out the unprecedented effort of mega-corporations, including Facebook and Twitter, to interfere in this election, in support of Joe Biden," he added.

Senate Judiciary Committee member Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) attends the confirmation hearing of Attorney General nominee William Barr at the Capitol in Washington on Jan. 15, 2019. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Times)

Hawley said that Congress should investigate voter fraud allegations and make sure that future elections are secure. According to the Missouri Republican, both chambers have failed to act in an appropriate manner.

"For these reasons," Hawley continued, "I will follow the same practice Democrat members of Congress have in years past and object during the certification process on Jan. 6 to raise these critical issues ."

Hawley noted that Democrats objected during the 2004 and 2016 elections "in order to raise concerns" about election integrity. "They were praised by Democratic leadership and the media when they" objected, Hawley added, saying that they "were entitled to do so" and Republicans concerned about election integrity in the Nov. 3 election "are entitled to do the same."

For the past several weeks, Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) and other House GOP lawmakers have pledged to object to the counting of the Electoral College votes during the Joint Session of Congress . Their effort requires a senator and a House member that would trigger a series of debates before a vote on whether to certify a state's Electoral College votes is held.

Some members of the GOP leadership, including Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.), have said their efforts are doomed to fail. And over the past weekend, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), in comments widely publicized by news outlets, referred to Brooks's effort as "a scam."

And, according to anonymously sourced reports, Senate Majority Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told GOP senators that they should not take part in the House GOP-led effort on Jan. 6. Another Republican, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), said the attempt to challenge the votes is an improbable one.

" It's basically going through the motions ," Cornyn said, reported The Hill.

"It's a futile exercise."

But Brooks, for his part, indicated that "dozens" of House members back the effort . "We're going to sponsor and co-sponsor objections to the Electoral College vote returns," Brooks told Fox News on Dec. 28.

In a previous interview with The Epoch Times' American Thought Leaders program, Brooks said he believes the Electoral College vote can be rejected, and the election can ultimately be decided in the House of Representatives.

Former California Sen. Barbara Boxer "tried to strike Ohio for George Bush back in 2005, so this is not unusual," Brooks said in an interview with Fox Business on Dec. 15. "The law is very clear, the House of Representatives in combination with the United States Senate has the lawful authority to accept or reject Electoral College vote submissions from states that have such flawed election systems that they're not worthy of our trust."

The new Congress is slated to be sworn in on Jan. 3.


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A clear case of fraud is in front of you, Senators.

What message are you going to send the American people?

WE ARE WATCHING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jeSIVK3CWk

[Jan 01, 2021] Congratulations Joe

Highly recommended!
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[Dec 30, 2020] Pennsylvania Republicans find 'alarming discrepancy' twice the margin of Biden's victory by Daniel Chaitin

Dec 30, 2020 | www.msn.com

Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania say an "alarming discrepancy" in the presidential vote count is two times larger than the margin of President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the state.

Their analysis, released on Monday by state Rep. Frank Ryan and more than a dozen colleagues, found different vote counts when comparing Election Day data from counties and the Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors, or SURE, system used by Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar. They also raised suspicions about there being tens of thousands fewer votes in the presidential race than overall ballots.

All this comes more than a month after Boockvar certified election results and Gov. Tom Wolf issued a certificate of ascertainment of presidential electors, stating that Biden received 80,555 more votes than Trump.

According to the GOP analysis, county election results showed 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while the SURE system indicated that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted, which is a difference of 202,377 votes. The Republicans said this 202,377 gap, coupled with 31,547 fewer presidential race votes seen in county data, amounts to "an alarming discrepancy" of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between Biden and Trump.

A small graph that appears at the bottom of their press release states that three small rural counties have not fully posted their results online, and therefore the assessment only goes off what has been reported.

table: Graph courtesy of Pennsylvania state Rep. Frank Ryan. © Provided by Washington Examiner Graph courtesy of Pennsylvania state Rep. Frank Ryan.

"We were already concerned with the actions of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, the Executive branch, and election officials in certain counties contravening and undermining the Pennsylvania Election Code by eliminating signature verification, postmarks, and due dates while allowing the proliferation of drop boxes with questionable security measures and the unauthorized curing of ballots, as well as the questionable treatment of poll watchers, all of which created wholesale opportunities for irregularities in the 2020 presidential election," the lawmakers said.

"However, we are now seeing discrepancies on the retail level which raise even more troubling questions regarding irregularities in the election returns. These findings call into question the accuracy of the SURE system, consistency in the application of the Pennsylvania Election Code from county to county, and the competency of those charged with oversight of elections in our Commonwealth," the GOP lawmakers added. "These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error."

[Dec 29, 2020] 99.99% Accuracy Rate -- Raffensperger Says Signature Match Audit Found No Evidence of Voter Fraud in Cobb County - Only 2 Out

Dec 29, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Independent monitors were barred from the audit.

No other election has seen such perfect signature matches.

Who actually believes that there is a 99.99% accuracy rate in performing correct signature verification procedures in Cobb County?

Georgia has 460,000 absentee ballots still missing chain of custody documentation required by law – and surprise, surprise, most absentee ballots went to Joe Biden.


Mark Richardson 3 hours ago ,

Verified with human eyes and observers?
I think not.

kendar667 Mark Richardson 3 hours ago ,

Yeah this is complete garbage. Nothing is 99.99% accurate if humans are involved. The number is a slap in the face, basically saying to the voters "yeah so what are you gonna do about it?" I've got a few ideas...

Philo-Identitas 🗹Identitarian Michael (yep, another one) 2 hours ago ,

If this fight against election theft is destined to be successful, then it's imperative to understand that the fight is ultimately against the political establishment and the current power structures of our nation.

As can be seen right here with this article, the GOP is also part of the above-mentioned. Those who insist that the "RINOs" are the problem seemingly have yet to understand that a solid Congressperson is the exception rather than the rule. The political establishment and political power structures have established a strong political filter that ensures only a small number of elected representatives that are actually America First manage to get elected.

The GOP backstabbing DJT is not a new occurrence. Back in 2016, both the highest ranked elected GOP office holder (Ryan) and the highest ranking RNC official (Priebus) reneged on endorsing nominee DJT.

Attempting to negotiate with the same elements that brought us the status quo of today is a losing endeavor. The time is now to revolt.

Jon Philo-Identitas 🗹Identitarian 2 hours ago ,

I'm sure Jordan Fuchs helped out with this "signature match audit". Complete BS.

Donald J Tromp Crystallite an hour ago ,

When Fulton County finished counting they held a press conference. There was an older black male (don't know who it was) that came to the microphone and said, "I'm proud that Fulton County was able to have such an effect on the outcome of the election". When I heard him say it live, I thought WTF was that? Was that a Freudian slip? It was bizarre!

Kountry Bumpkin Crystallite an hour ago ,

Exactly, Fulton Co. is where they pulled suitcases full of ballots from under the table and ran the same stacks of ballots through the machines 3 times. This proves nothing, it certainly doesn't prove there wasn't any cheating in Fulton Co. because we've all seen video proving otherwise.

Tom Davis Jon 2 hours ago ,

Do remember, they audited the country NOT run by BLM Kleptocrat-Thugs.

But since "who voted" is public information (vs who they voted for), why not Release The Images of the Signatures - information WE The People Own?

Why not release the separate Ballot-Images (not ID'd by voter), so we can also check those for fraud. These are also public information WE Own.

Abel Washington Philo-Identitas 🗹Identitarian 2 hours ago ,

Raffesburger was matching ballot signatures with illegal ballot request signatures, instead of matching them to actual voter registrations on file.

Deplorable D Abel Washington an hour ago • edited ,

Cobb County is not where the fraud was. No one has even alleged fraud there. This was a dog and pony show.

Biden beat Obama in only 4 counties. These are the counties being contested. None of the audits in PA, GA, WI, or MI have been in the contested counties. This one included.

kendar667 Michael (yep, another one) 2 hours ago ,

Lol touche. This is a total insult by a corrupt and arrogant apparatchik. Jeez, at least make the number semi-believable like 97% or even 98%. By going with four nines he is sending a message.

dalmudi kendar667 3 hours ago ,

I'd like to see a count of the signed envelopes v. a count of the absentee ballots.

Kulakhan dalmudi 3 hours ago ,

Also against voter rolls.

[Dec 29, 2020] Bill Barr Did Not See Fraud Because He Refused To Look by Larry C Johnson - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Dec 29, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Bill Barr Did Not See Fraud Because He Refused To Look by Larry C Johnson

I was wrong in putting any faith in Bill Barr. I thought Bill Barr was an honorable man. He is not. He has done a good job of masquerading as a stand up, honest guy, but when it came to saving the Republic and upholding the Constitution, he ran away.

During Barr's final press conference on Monday, he doubled down on his prior statement :

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."

Barr insists he has not seen sufficient fraud? Is he blind? Is he now illiterate? A blind cave fish can see the evidence.

So let me help you out Mr. Barr. THERE IS AMPLE EVIDENCE OF FRAUD AND YOU ONLY NEED TO LOOK IN THREE STATES–GEORGIA, PENNSYLVANIA AND ARIZONA.

There is indisputable, tangible evidence of a massive fraud that, once exposed, ensures Donald Trump's re-election. The plot was simple.

Proving the fraud is even simpler. We only need to compare the physical ballots with the images that are recorded on the Dominion machines. We do not need to worry, at this point, about computer forensics. (That could be relevant later when we go after those foreign entities responsible for the interference). We only need to focus on the ballot images. For example, if a mailed in ballot had actually been mailed, it would have been folded and unfolded several times. Those fold marks show up on the digital image that the Dominion machine made in recording the ballot.

If you have a mailed in ballot that has no fold marks then you have clear, empirical evidence of fraud. A mail in ballot will have fold marks. But there also are other markings embedded in the ballots that will reveal whether or not a person or a machine filled out the ballot.

If you want to understand this type of analysis, please watch this video featuring Jovan Hutton Pulitzer. ( Kudos to Joe Hoft who spotted the importance of Mr. Pulitzer early on.) Mr. Pulitzer is a true genius. He knows how to make the complex quite simple: https://www.youtube.com/embed/UgeqGmvQXKs

https://www.youtube.com/embed/UgeqGmvQXKs?feature=oembed

I never realized, until now, that Bill Barr is incapable of counting. The evidence of fraud in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan is substantial and consequential. This proves that Bill Barr is flat out wrong about the evidence and the outcome of the election.

GEORGIA:

Biden supposedly won by 11,779 votes over Trump, but the documentary and video evidence show that thousands of votes were illegally counted in Fulton County, Georgia. Fulton County Georgia elections officials told the media and GOP observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night because of an alleged water main rupture. But there was no break in the water line.

The Democrat workers continued counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m. Ruby Freeman and her daughter–elections supervisor Wandrea "Shaye" Moss– are clearly visible on video pulling out suitcases full of ballots and began counting those ballots without election monitors in the room.

https://rumble.com/embed/v8ynrx/?pub=5azz7#?secret=hyeaXWKk9r#?secret=JN1ZJ5To5A

https://rumble.com/embed/v9jhdj/?pub=5azz7#?secret=R9yyleEgkG

16 Electoral votes.

Biden–2,473,633

Trump–2,461,854

Ruby and her daughter pulled out more than 11,779 ballots and can be seen entering those ballots multiple times into the Dominion machine. And Bill Barr does not see this as relevant?

PENNSYLVANIA :

The evidence does not stop there. Pennsylvania's votes, specifically those from the Philadelphia area, were corrupt. The ballots counted in Philadelphia were printed in New York and transported to Pennsylvania. We are talking more than 350,000 ballots. The evidence about the movement of these ballots is fully backed up by eye witness testimony under oath and documents.

Here is one witness, truck driver Jesse Morgan :

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FAB2NVJtVVg?feature=oembed

20 Electoral votes.

Biden–3,459,923

Trump–3,378,263

Bill Barr clearly is no good at simple math. 350,000 ballots is more than enough to swing the election in Pennsylvania from Biden to Trump. All the FBI has to do is investigate.

WISCONSIN:

Wisconsin's fraud starts with the introduction of 170,000 mail-in ballots entering the tabulation process under the guise of absentee ballots in clear violation of state law. That's more than eight times the number of ballots of the alleged Biden victory margin of 20,608 votes. This large-scale abuse was facilitated by expansive definition of "indefinitely confined voters," which the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled was illegal.

But there also is clear evidence that fraudulent "mailed" ballots were put through the Dominion machines. For example, more than 2000 absentee votes in Wisconsin all had the same initials "MLW". Then there were thousands of pristine "mailed" ballots with no sign of ever being folded.

10 Electoral votes

Biden–1,630,673

Trump–1,610,065

The fraud in Wisconsin is centered in Dane and Milwaukee counties. But so far the FBI has declined to investigate. How can Bill Barr claim there is no evidence when there are clear allegations but no investigation. The difference of 20,608 swings the state to Trump.

ARIZONA:

The evidence of voter fraud from the ballots allegedly mailed is clear and stunning, as the following video explains.

https://rumble.com/embed/v980qt/?pub=5azz7#?secret=VuvKGrY5ZG#?secret=2qTzTSOJ9Z

Biden–1,672,143

Trump–1,661,686

In light of the emerging evidence, it appears the Republican legislature is going to certify the Republican slate of electors. With only 10,457 separating Biden and Trump and with the evidence that more than 100,000 mail in votes do not show evidence of actually being mailed, this should give President Trump another key win.

It is a shame that Bill Barr concludes his government service under such a dark cloud. But it is his fault. All he had to do was be honest and look at the evidence. Instead, he studiously avoided looking. He chose blindness over vision. That tawdry legacy is on him.

Reader Interactions

j. casey , 28 December 2020 at 08:58 AM

Barr = Deep State referee. His sole function is to keep the game going, not to uphold the Constitution. Same with SCOTUS.

Deap , 28 December 2020 at 11:35 AM

Thank you, Larry. As clear of a presentation as possible. We all need to print this out as a dark reminder of what we let happen to this country, as Kamala Harris cackles in our faces and Joe Biden floats around haplessly in a time warp unconnected to the real world today.

It never should have happened, but it did. The price of freedom is constant vigilance - motto good enough to the Air Force SAC wing remains good enough today too.

It is incumbent upon us all now to sign up as election observers and know the law to protect our voting process, because the county hired guns will no longer be doing this for us - it is our duty now to provide constant vigilance.

Time to start citizen election law study groups and field armies of poll volunteers by 2022.

Deap , 28 December 2020 at 11:54 AM

Thoughtful piece from American Thinker explores possible motivations for those choosing to ignore this obvious election fraud staring them in the face:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/what_denying_election_fraud_accomplishes.html

Most chilling of course is the threat of "mob" violence- which in fact are the organized, astroturf dragoons who perpetrated the election fraud in the first place - the hard, organized left of the Democrat Party- who have the most to gain. Follow the money.

Even Rep Omar salivates at the prospect of $2000 benjamins now that she has tasted her brand of American "capitalism" - picking up and enjoying free money. The taste of millions of dollars of campaign cash flowing into the hands for her husband for "legitimate campaign services" was too tempting to turn down.

The next fear is the potential and total control of the insider media will cancel/censor all future developments and exposures of this topic.

Harry Hobbes , 28 December 2020 at 12:11 PM

Consider the Board of Director Nominees:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/715957/000119312517089312/d340312ddef14a.htm

Harry Hobbes , 28 December 2020 at 12:16 PM

Oopps!

My bad...

It appears Barr is associated with a different "Dominion;" not the voting machine firm.

My apology to you and your readers...

blue peacock , 28 December 2020 at 04:23 PM

Larry,

It is easy to blame Barr. Just like Sessions before. Obama nominated his wingman as AG. Who do you think Biden's gonna nominate? Why dd Trump nominate a whole lot of Swampsters to his cabinet? Whose desk should the buck stop at?

On a larger note, and what you've been writing about - the breakdown of the rule of law and the usurpation of power by insiders - I believe Glenn Greenwald is spot on here. Authoritarianism has been creeping in the US for many decades now, backed by the oligarchy and the elite political, media & "think-tank" class. And of course the urban managerial class too.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-threat-of-authoritarianism-in

Whether the U.S. was a democracy in any meaningful sense prior to Trump had been the subject of substantial scholarly debate. A much-discussed 2014 study concluded that economic power has become so concentrated in the hands of such a small number of U.S. corporate giants and mega-billionaires, and that this concentration in economic power has ushered in virtually unchallengeable political power in their hands and virtually none in anyone else's, that the U.S. more resembles oligarchy than anything else

This is a theme that I have posted on at SST.

Alexandria , 28 December 2020 at 04:37 PM

Larry,

Just focus on Georgia, which has a Republican Governor and Secretary of State. If the Georgia authorities have not brought an action in the Georgia courts to undo the fraud allegedly perpetrated by Ruby and Wandrea, why should we expect Bill Barr and the Supreme Court to intervene?

Bill Barr has a healthy respect for constitutional federalism and has, most likely, concluded that when the Georgia authorities have conducted a recount and have certified the election results, he lacks the constitutional authority to go to Atlanta, impound the ballots and conduct a federal recount in order to overturn the State's certification decision.

[Dec 29, 2020] The Banality Of Bill Barr

From comment it is clear that Trump did a tremendous job undermining and discrediting classic neoliberalism from the position of national neoliberalism. He was a huge wrecking ball...
Dec 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Thomas J. Farnan via The National Pulse

In June, Attorney General Bill Barr sat for an interview in CNN's Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer and predicted widespread fraud with mail in voting.

He said: "People trying to change the rules to this, to this methodology – which, as a matter of logic, is very open to fraud and coercion – is reckless and dangerous and people are playing with fire."

At the time, Barr was the nation's top law enforcement officer with an obligation to prevent election fraud under a bevy of federal statutes .

What Barr Could've Done.

Maybe an investigation of Silicon Valley billionaires ballot harvesting in black neighborhoods , for starters, and then a warrant for surveillance cameras at counting facilities in Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta and Detroit, with federal agents on hand to double check the chain of custody of boxes coming through the back door.

Instead, election integrity was preserved with federal investigations to prevent nonexistent seditious activity emanating from dubious white militias. The "reckless and dangerous" mail-in ballot operation the Attorney General warned about was ignored.

Trump's political rise is because our institutions no longer work for the common good and instead serve the idiosyncratic preferences of the sclerotic establishment. Picking a bombastic outsider is the only way that 75-million Americans know to tell them to cut it out.

Barr, A Typical Washingtonian Creature.

In private practice, Barr was a highly compensated conduit to power, because being the former Attorney General, or ex-FBI Director, or alum of any office that confers a vendable credential pays big bucks in DC.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=830

He is sufficiently deluded by beltway noise that he does not realize his pandering to shallow political interests as George H.W. Bush's Attorney General – for instance by authoring in 1992 The Case for More Incarceration – was simply grist for the outrage mill that perpetuates the swindle.

Barr and Biden in Washington D.C.

Based on the musings of General Barr, Senator Joe Biden spearheaded a crime bill in 1993. He sold the bill as a way to take "predators" who were "beyond the pale" off the streets.

Because that's how Washington works.

Insiders on both sides help one another perform their Kabuki dance as public servants for the next election even as they pocket a Delaware mansion's worth of foreign money.

H.L. Mencken observed that, "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

The Shill Continues.

Barr was appointed AG the second time because he penned a 20-page memo proposing that when the president protests against a ridiculous investigation into whether he colluded with Vladimir Putin to steal an election, he is not obstructing justice.

You know, like how nobody is suggesting that Joe Biden's protests against election fraud investigations means he should get indicted for obstruction under 18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 73.

Any first year law student could tell you that. If you were a warm body willing to help Trump escape a frivolous criminal charge, though, you got a promotion from the practice squad straight into the starting lineup.

As Trump's Attorney General, Barr served the same cadre of Washington insiders as he did the first time, many of whom were still there because the game works so flawlessly.

The Hard Drive From Hell.

Weeks before the 2020 election, a concerned citizen turned over to federal authorities a laptop that had irrefutable evidence of a Biden family operation to sell influence in China, with 10 percent of the take going to "the big guy" – who happened to be the democratic candidate then running for president.

The nation's intelligence agencies mobilized on behalf of the Biden family to call the concerned citizen a Russian stooge, and the contents of the laptop Russian disinformation.

At the time – we didn't know it – the Justice Department had been investigating the very activities confirmed in the laptop.

A copy of Hunter's hard drive from hell (Image: Stuart Mitchell)

Barr knew, obviously, that the slander against the concerned citizen was just deep state tripe to protect the Bidens.

Yet Barr sat on his hands, kept his mouth shut, and let the whistleblower suffer vicious public attack , because Washington insiders put the establishment first even against the heroic decency of the little guy.

The Russia Lie.

For two years Barr had investigated the greatest political scandal in American history.

The Washington establishment, along with the FBI, the CIA, and foreign intelligence services, ran protection for the democratic candidate in 2016 by calling embarrassing disclosures about her Russian disinformation – and, when that dirty trick somehow did not get her elected, carrying the hoax into the Trump presidency to cause maximum political damage.

For more on that, please do yourself a favor and read about the sordid scandal in my short ebook, The Russia Lie . I propose in the book that the scam was a political operation to vilify Donald Trump by falsely claiming Russian election interference.

A week after publication, the DNI released notes John Brennan took of a meeting with Barack Obama that confirmed my controversial take.

Brennan wrote that Hillary Clinton was planning to "vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service."

Yeah, but I said it better.

If someone like me sitting at a desk in Pittsburgh can figure this out, then the Attorney General's head-in-the-sand failure to expose the lie amounts to an intentional cover-up sourced in deliberate indifference.

As with the Biden laptop, Barr's first impulse investigating the investigators was to protect his friends and neighbors in Washington, the Republic be damned. Some minor flunky at the FBI will go to jail , and everyone else is going to escape to their lucrative cable television deals.

Because the fix, as always, was in.

Now What?

The 75-million who voted for Trump feel cheated but they're not going anywhere. Their ranks will increase as Washington's Rube Goldberg-ian governance wreaks havoc and the dissatisfied look for an alternative.

Our side should win the next few election cycles. That would be a "will definitely win" except Republican officials in various key states passed permanent mail-in voting laws ostensibly to address the short-term contingencies of a temporary pandemic.

Yes, the Republican Party is staffed with a bunch of "bilbars" (inventing a word here) at the highest levels.

The "reckless and dangerous playing with fire" will continue, with Republican hopes pinned on electing conscientious candidates even though state elections will be fixed by vote harvesting and back door shenanigans into the foreseeable future.

Stop the Steal protests around the United States

It is dire but hopeful. Popular movements are best when they overcome even official corruption.

When Trump wins in 2024, he must avoid hiring swamp dwellers to drain the swamp. Of all the things I've written about Trumpism in the last four or so years, my favorite is this – nailed the problem a few months into the presidency.

There's got to be a law professor in Ohio who actually voted for Trump who can be tapped for the position of Attorney General next time.

No more bilbars, please. As Hannah Arendt knew, beholden insiders who prefer prestige to principle is the banality of evil.

Oh, and whoever came up with the idea of landing Air Force One and Marine One at small airports to hold rallies, give that person whatever job he or she wants.

It contributed to one of the greatest landslides in American presidential history.


USAllDay 4 hours ago

Bill Barr is a fat CIA hack just like his (daddy) that hired Jeffery Epstein.

Tirion 3 hours ago

Barr was appointed as a result of a deal done with the Bush family when Poppy Bush died.

Lorenz Feedback 3 hours ago

You mean the Grassy Knoll poppy Bush? ;)

HAL9000rev1 4 hours ago (Edited)

Not doing anything is doing something.

In that vein he did a lot.

I hope he has a short and unpleasant retirement

Murky Mook 4 hours ago

Barr did nothing.Nothing. He must have a big payday coming from the swamp.

Cardinal Fang 3 hours ago

Trump is not a very good manager.

His hires were a ******* disaster.

BoiledFrogs 4 hours ago

What an utterly naive author.

The Rulers don't give a damn about us, whether we live or die. Barr doing something noble, because WHY? Not for us, not for America, not for Justice. He Rules according to the Rulers' dictates. There is not a single person working inside the Beltway who cares whether we live or die, have jobs or don't, can feed our families or not.

There is no and never has been BY THE PEOPLE.

ZenoOfCitium 3 hours ago

Barr is a dirty birdy. Barr has always been [DS]. His CIA codename was Robert Johnson.

Barr was involved in Operation Screw Worm (part of the Iran-Contra operation)

https://www.conservapedia.com/Iran-Contra_affair . FYI, the Bush and Clinton families are DS, in case you had any doubt.

Barr later had a hand in clearing DS (aka FBI snipers) of any wrong doing when assassinating Vicki Weaver

All of this information can be googled/binged/duckduckgoed. Lots of references to various articles which point to various court cases, etc.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/william-barrs-connection-to-ruby-ridge-defending-fbi-snipers/

dogbert8 1 hour ago

Bill Barr always was a swamp creature, as was Durham. I feel a bit sad for those American patriots who thought Barr/Durham would finally, "hold [them] accountable." That was never going to happen. Swamp creatures never rat on each other; it's an unstated pact. "It's a big club, and [we] ain't in it."

BuckShotJones 2 hours ago (Edited)

Author is either naive or controlled opposition. The deep state has just stolen a land slide election with an "In-Your-Face" attitude. No true reformer is going to win ever again. As imperfect as Trump is, especially with whom he chose to pick to counsel him, he will be the last reformer that will be permitted to run and win an election.

Drag and Drop a win. It is now that simple.

As for Barr, was he AG during the Ruby Ridge fiasco?

marysimmons 3 hours ago

Trump's nomination of Barr was probably the worst of a very long list of horrible nominations/appointments. Probably cost him re-election

Robert De Zero 4 hours ago

Shill Barr was a slick operator. He uncloaked completely when he said "no fraud." He sat on EVERYTHING. I never believed all the Q nonsense about "trusting the plan." I hope all the Q-tards apologize for trying to mislead everyone with their obvious nonsense and naivety.

radical-extremist 3 hours ago

Democrats fight dirty and Republicans don't contest their skullduggery that much because "it's for the good of the country" that these long drawn out battles end. Barr was brought in to make sure the Republicans didn't fight too hard and upset everybody.

liberty2day 3 hours ago

Why argue this?

Trump was either coerced to drop in this skunk or he is one of them. Total fail, either way

No Time for Fishing 3 hours ago

Mitch picked Barr. Mitch made it clear to President Trump that Barr will be AG as no other nominee would make it through the Senate and any push back would be the end of anything else making it through the Senate for Trump. Barr was given clear instructions that the Swamp and most importantantly Mitch and his China In Laws were off limits and Barr was not to do anything that could endanger any Democrat Crime Family or Republican Crime Family made man.

TxRogers 14 minutes ago remove link

"A plutocracy is a system of government where the wealthiest people in a country rule or possess the power, and thus govern directly or indirectly. Plutocracy is often linked to the term "dynastic wealth."

A plutocracy may not be the result of a planned system of government. Instead, plutocracies can gradually form by allowing sole access to essential political and educational resources that only the rich can afford.

The democratic concern of a plutocracy is that the wealthy will wish to maintain their power and, therefore, only represent the interests of the wealthy as opposed to people of all levels of education and income."

Sound familiar boys and girls?

pedro-the-cat 3 hours ago

The same people who go through the ranks in DC as young people end up being appointed to big positions as payback for "services rendered". Barr is but one example. If he is out for justice, then I am the King of Siam.

This is the way it has always been. Trump upended their "thing" and now both parties are pulling out all the stops to get him out.

If Trump does not serve a second term and this vote is given to Biden, a curtain will slam down on the U.S.

The aftermath will make Soviet Russia look like a birthday party in comparison.

Beaker99 3 hours ago

Barr is one of my biggest disappointments. I really thought he was going to bring some accountability to the other side. Shame on me for not realizing he was installed as AG to make sure exactly that did not happen.

Normally Aspirated 54 minutes ago (Edited) remove link

As a non American with nothin invested in US politics, I am still amazed that the US republicans still have faith in Trump. He has achieved nothing except for Israel and his families cronies.

He may have said the things that require change but he achieved nothing.

He made mistake after mistake and, still fails to learn. He is either dumb OR he is not who he claims to be. Indeed, he may be involved in the whole thing. I think he's simply playing a part. A role, not dissimilar to some TV Host on a TV show.

Either way, he has proven that he's no leader, has no conviction, has no insight with people and, fails to identify a HUGE opportunity afforded to him at those rallies for him to lead the country and her people by providing leadership and direction. He lacks political intelligence or any conviction for the saving of the Republic.

Trump is simply in it for Trump! He is wasting your hope.

[Dec 25, 2020] Eight 'Screaming Red Flags' From The 2020 Election That Deserved Criminal Inquiry - ZeroHedge

Dec 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

It's untrue that most of the claims have been dispelled by courts. By and large, there's been no opportunity for witnesses to testify or present evidence to a judge or jury. More importantly, perhaps, there's been no way to collect evidence of alleged fraud without the tools of a criminal inquiry, such as subpoenas, depositions, and the ability to compel forensic exams.

If legitimate and transparent investigations were to find the witnesses who claim fraud or irregularities are mistaken or not telling the truth, the inquiries would serve the crucial purpose of assuring the public that the claims were thoroughly investigated but found to be unsupportable or false.

The following are eight examples of screaming red flags that begged for a prompt, thorough criminal inquiry.

1. Ballots Allegedly Trucked Across State Lines

The FBI has a role in determining whether an interstate crime occurred, and who is responsible, if hundreds of thousands of ballots were trucked from New York to Pennsylvania, as a firsthand witness states .

It should be simple for law enforcement to get to the bottom of it by finding out who hired the truck and moved the cargo, or showing that the story is made up or a misunderstanding.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=830 2. Subtracted Votes

There are several reported accounts of vote switching in real time, as shown on television, supposedly an example of how mischief can occur.

It would not be difficult for an investigative team to track down what happened in the specific instances and, if verified, it implicates more switching could have happened undetected.

3. Vote Count Pauses

Vote counting was oddly paused in several states. If, as some claim, it was done so that Joe Biden's ballot deficit could be figured and erased, it would point to a coordinated effort.

It would not be difficult for criminal investigators to question decision makers at each location and find out who they communicated with. This could prove or dispel the notion of a coordinated scheme.

4. Fulton County, Georgia's Mysterious Water Pipe Break

Fulton County is a special case since the reason given for a major vote pause, and the reason uncritically accepted and reported by many in the press, was that a water pipe burst and interrupted the count. However, the story morphed over weeks, and a state investigator ultimately concluded there was no pipe burst that would have interrupted any counting. No good public explanation for this discrepancy has been provided by a credible authority.

It would not be difficult for criminal investigators to identify and question whoever called the vote count suspension, and then moved forward with counting after some observers were dismissed.

5. Blocked Observation

There are widespread accounts from Republican election observers, and some Democrats, about being allegedly blocked from seeing what was going on. It would make sense for a law enforcement authority to question who was at the top of the organizational chain at each location where this is credibly claimed by a witness in a declaration or sworn statement, and find out how the official decided to determine and deploy the rules for observation.

It would not be difficult to learn whether there was a coordinated effort or, in the alternative, to hold accountable anyone at the local level who improperly shielded ballot counting from observers.

6. Voting Machines

In recent testimony to the Michigan state legislature, Dominion Voting Systems' CEO stated he saw no credible claims of fraud. But when asked how it can be proved that bad actors didn't impact and infiltrate voting systems, he advocated the idea of audits and even machine examinations to answer those outstanding questions. He even said this is the common way such questions are answered.

For the sake of public confidence, it would be prudent to have a credible law enforcement body conduct forensic exams and audits of the machines and software to rule out interference by third parties, or any other illegalities or mischief.

7. Mail-in Ballots

Numerous witnesses from the postal service as well as at polling precincts have provided specific information about allegedly being instructed to falsely date, add birth dates, or otherwise improperly alter mail-in ballots, or have testified about hearing plans to do so. This is an important and easy issue for criminal investigative authorities to nail down one way or the other.

8. Backdoor Ballots

The midnight dumps of tens of thousands of ballots in key swing states overturning the Trump lead could be perfectly legitimate. However, it's unusual to say the least. And so, in this environment, it's important that a criminal investigative body conduct at least a preliminary inquiry in places where witnesses observed what they considered to be suspicious behavior or ballots.

It should not be difficult to track the chain of custody and show they're legitimate or, if not, find out who transported them.

Finding evidence that dispels mischief is as equally important as an investigation that finds wrongdoing. The simple declaration that there's nothing to investigate, or having people who have no way to know the truth call the claims "conspiracy theories," is unlikely to dismiss widespread concerns and may, in fact, heighten mistrust.


dustnwind 6 hours ago

Courts have simply refused the cases to avoid the outcome.

Barnacles PREMIUM 6 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Supreme Court in no hurry to hear Trump campaign case, sets response deadline two days after inauguration

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-trump-campaign-case-no-hurry

Bobzilla. Do not piss him off 6 hours ago

This is such an embarrassment for the U.S. 'Real' democracies laughing at the U.S. sham of a voting system. If there's even one fraudulent vote, the system has to change. Voting machines, mail in ballots, no voter ID required, all lead to the B.S. that went on. Trump won, hands down! No way Bidet got more votes than Bathhouse Barry.

Billy the Poet 5 hours ago

The cameras were broken and the guards fell asleep.

Srbutterfly 4 hours ago

Oh your so right, we should follow the example of trumps allies instead and behave very illegally and then have trump pardon us! Perfect!

cankles' server 3 hours ago

Bingo,

That's why there's no interest to investigate. If Biden is inaugurated he's just going to pardon them anyway since it's federal laws that were broken.

sgt_doom 41 minutes ago (Edited) remove link

Thank you. The Deep State was well in place when JFK was president and that was over 50 years ago.

When Mustafa Attaturk set up the modern deep state in Turkey to insure that country remained secular, it functioned beautifully every time religious extremists sought to seize control ----- up until the Islamic extremist Erdogan took out thousands of individuals --- because that is what it takes to dismantle a deep state structure; simply that Erdogan was moving in the wrong direction!

By firing the top three at the CIA --- and the Dulles sister at State --- and by appointing McCone, JFK appeared to be making the right moves.

PROBLEM: Deep State advice on whom to appoint --- McCone's silent partner in his shipping company was the Rockefeller family, hence he appointed Nelson Rockefeller's special assistant --- who remained on Nelson's payroll --- Gen. Schuyler, who probably fired the "good guys" at the Agency! (Definitely should have fired Tracy Barnes who was both a cousin to Dulles and had married into the Rockefeller family. McCone aldo appointed Gen. Marshall Carter --- at the advice of Nelson Rockefeller --- to be CIA deputy director. Gen. Carter was the brother of LBJ's senior advisor, Cliff Carter, and later Gen. Carter would be appointed to be director of the NSA --- during the timeframe when all the 1963 files for USA--55 disappeared!)

zerohedgeguy 6 hours ago (Edited) remove link

another is how Biden got more votes than obama while winning only 477 counties.

Obama won 69 million votes and 873 counties and Trump won 74 million votes and 2,497 counties, while Biden won 81 million votes and just 477 counties.

the6thBook 5 hours ago

Not to mention the last four elections all had about 120 million votes and then all of sudden we have 155 million votes.

sgt_doom 5 hours ago

FACT SHEET. (short version)

https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-exclusive-dominion-voting-machines-ability-create-ballots/

https://www.dominionvoting.com/optional-solutions/

Google. "UG-ICC-UserGuide-5-11-CO.pdf" then read p. 30

https://www.theepochtimes.com/2020-election-investigation-who-is-stealing-america_3617562.html

https://thedonald.win/p/11R4bvCBnN/dominion-ceo-states-in-mi-hearin/c/

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Who Really Owns Dominion Voting Systems

China (the CCP) owns UBS Securities Co Ltd >> which owns Staple Street Capital >> which owns Dominion >> ergo, CCP owns Dominion --- this is the way it is done in int'l finance

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-12-01/dominion-voting-systems-owner-sells-400-million-securities-china-linked-ubs-october

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1827586/000182758620000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/dominion-voting-systems-acquired-by-its-management-team-and-staple-street-capital-300681752.html

https://www.buyoutsinsider.com/ex-carlyle-cerberus-execs-shop-staple-street-holds-one-and-done-close-on-fund-iii/

sgt_doom 5 hours ago

Right ---- you don't win 18 of the 19 bellweather counties then lose the election!

NoBigDeal 6 hours ago

9. The POTUS, with a large affidavit being called a 'person of no standing' and refused a fair hearing by the entire legal fraternity, even the supreme court. Reports of law firms and individuals being threatened by ANTIFA and the DNC.

bkwaz4 5 hours ago

The courts invoke unconstitutional procedural BS when they don't want to deal with issues they KNOW are BIG problems. They are useless.

BoiledFrogs 4 hours ago

Which law enforcement arm would do the investigating:

States attorney generals or local prosecutors who normally represent the very people who are being implicated?

The FBI which is entirely politicized so deeply that it lied to the FISA court?

US DOJ which has officially stated there is no fraud?

dystopian logistics 4 hours ago (Edited)

The fact that ballots were trucked across state lines is proof enough that Texas has standing . ( but nobody cares about inforcing commerce laws any more.)

Max21c 4 hours ago

The Supreme Court has spoken and the Supreme Court Justices have clearly endorsed election fraud and the return of Jim Crow laws. The US Supreme Court has ushered in a new era of Jim Crow laws and now Jim Crow laws apply nationwide unlike the previous era when Jim crow laws predominated to deny citizens their voting rights in the Democrat Party controlled Old South.

Yippie21 4 hours ago

More than that, SCOTUS has decided no all votes count as one man, one vote. They're ok with trashing everything to get rid of Trump and demoralize his voter base. It's kinda incredible what it going on.

Max21c 4 hours ago

Texas has standing both because it is a Sovereign State as are each of the states and because it's citizens are both citizens of the United States and citizens of the state of Texas. The US Supreme Court lied when they claimed Texas and all the other Sovereign states and the citizens thereof did not have "standings" but in order for the Supreme Court and its "Justices" to sweep the election fraud under the rug they had to lie and claim citizens do not have voting rights in an election, votes do not have to be counted in whole or as undiluted, citizens votes are neither equal nor protected by the rule of law, et cetera and so on and so forth. The Supreme Court needed an excuse to go along with the coup d'etat and forcing Trump out of power and to usher in the new Jim Crow era.

Al Armed 2 hours ago remove link

Imagine if Texas just declared war on the District of Columbia and sent the Texas National Guard in a massive convoy to the capital, inviting other states to join them in their righteous demand: WE WILL HAVE A FAIR ELECTION.

I bet we'd have a do-over in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, and Wisconsin.

inorganic 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Essentially everyone in every high-level position in the entire federal government, and many of the state governments, have been recruited for political positions, and their campaigns funded by the super-rich globalist totalitarians for decades. Which is why virtually every one of them does what they are told, no matter what.

Oh, and in case you haven't noticed, they are never arrested much less go to jail much less serve time for the never-ending crimes against humanity they practice. And they all end up rich. Thus, no downside and huge upside for human predators willing to obey the super-rich globalists.

Essentially, they are all owned. Obviously even the obscene court is too.

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Apologists for authoritarians have made endless excuses for the evil deeds and crimes of the authoritarians for endless decades. A few of us warned what would happen and now it has. So where are all the supporters of the second amendment who said they'd rise up and get rid of the predators-that-be if they went too far? Well, they've gone lightyears too far ... and still nothing. Which just goes to show ... essentially everyone who supported "authority" in any way shape or form for the past decades is an accomplice ... all 350 million of them (in the USSA).

just_looking 42 minutes ago

i think he's saying the Dems follow the game plan without fear knowing that Biden, as president, will exonerate them.

Faeriedust 3 hours ago

No judge wants to get in the middle of an election controversy; especially not when the supposed "winning" side has flexed street muscle all summer in a demonstration of what they would do if not given the trophy. I completely believe the story of Roberts screaming at the other SCJ's that taking the case would lead to rioting in the streets. The threat has been obvious. But more than that, this is the American Way: there is always election cheating, and the press and the courts always sweep it under the carpet and declare that whoever appeared to be winning on the morning after is the winner. And there is always a later admission that yes, there was cheating, but "not enough to affect the outcome ". They NEVER admit that it could have changed the outcome.

So this time it's pretty damned obvious that there was cheating, and that it DID affect the outcome . . . and they're sticking with the standard line. Because the Dimwits control the Media, and the courts are too cowardly to intervene, and the Publithugs were never ready to take to the streets and fight about it the way that BLM and Antifa already did. We the People were sold down the river before the voting even started, because ALL the Powers That Be were unanimous in despising Trump as "not part of the team". You can be sure that any voting we are allowed to do from here on out will not change anything. If it changed something, they wouldn't let us do it.

C Rabbit 6 hours ago

Well, according to the courts, all of the above is irrelevant because no matter how bad things were, nobody who wants to do anything about it "has standing" to do so. That is, the courts claim that nobody was injured by these misdoings. It seems to me that every single voter in the country has standing because if a presidential election can be affected in any way, by whatever means, for any of the candidates, some votes are not going to matter. EVERY VOTER HAS STANDING.

It's time for more than legal measures to begin to address this problem with the courts.

Lee Harvey 6 hours ago

What is really disturbing is the fact that anyone would be stupid enough to vote for a party that wants to eliminate the bill of rights and enslave them, and a candidate that is an older, whiter, griftier, misogynistier, pedophilic, professional swamp creature for 47 years, who proved he cannot even raise a decent family, let alone run a nation.

Someone, even if its only is one or two people, actually voted for Biden. Apparently, retards are allowed to vote.

A population of people stupid enough to vote Communist/Socialist/Democrat is on it's way to complete destruction.

Democracy only works with an educated, informed public.

Eliminate the retards and foreign trash, or America is dead.

It'll still be the brutal militaristic World Police, but won't have any positive examples of the ability to create a happy, healthy society OR the incentive to do so.

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Gospel According To Me 3 hours ago remove link

The Dems knew what they were doing. The fraud was planned at least a year ago and contains so many parts it will be hard to prove, especially with evidence quickly destroyed. A BILLION dollars was donated by names we all know to defeat Trump by any and every means possible. Crazy Nancy telegraphed their plan many months back when she said Trump may not want to leave the WH. She knew how he would react to the largest election fraud in history. They out spent and out did the Republicans in every big Blue area. They had thousands of volunteers to ballot harvest, pay for votes, double count Biden's ballots, fake mail-in ballots, and to cheat in many other ways.

Roberts is a coward who apparently stated he did not want to start any riots. His philosophy is to do the easier wrong thing, than the harder right thing. he doesn't give a s***about justice. So, don't expect a victory there.

But why no criminal charges? No federal investigation, no nothing. How can Trump prevail without criminal charges and specifics? The woman running his fraud "investigation" said she had plenty, but where is it? Who did what and when? By now the cover-up is complete and the leftists see victory ahead. The conservatives damn well better not let the Senate get flipped or they are toast for the next one-hundred f***ing years! They know the Dem game plan and better fight back!

yerfej 4 hours ago remove link

The progressives own the media, courts, academia, bureaucracy, and big tech so they cannot be challenged anymore. There is nothing anyone can do as there is no recourse. But that means everyone is a target of the progressives wrath, the purge will destroy everyone.

BinAnunnaki 1 hour ago

9. Excess votes for Biden with no corresponding vote tallies for Senate or House races. Which means only Pres was marked on the ballot. Sure sign of fraud

BugMan 1 hour ago

Jones was hired by the Biden campaign to run the Biden Texas operation . These captains have scores of paid vote harvesters working for them. Vote harvesting is a second-degree felony under the Texas Election Code . This is a criminal operation that these Democrat elected officials are running.

They harvest ballots by mail from nursing homes, homeless centers, door to door in poor neighborhoods , often dressed as Census workers. They offer $50 gift cards in front of stores asking people to take ballots by mail,

EXCLUSIVE AUDIO: Democrat Whistleblower Exposes Biden Campaign Voter Fraud Operation - National File

MontCar PREMIUM 1 hour ago

Of course TPTB stole the election. Everyone expected this. 2016 was an aberration not to be repeated. Like Trump or not the 2020 election shows the US to be a bonafide banana republic, albeit with nukes.

BinAnunnaki 1 hour ago (Edited)

With Barr as AG, Trump never stood a chance.

He had Hunter's latoptop which would have meant no impeachment. Biden Big Guy exposure would have finished him.

Love Orange Daddy, but his two biggest mistakes were picking Sessions (who had no problem appointing Mueller) and then Barr (who wouldn't appoint Special Prosecutor for Hunter)

USAllDay 3 hours ago

81 million votes for Biden is proof of fraud. That did not happen. 2008-2016 averaged around 128 million votes but we are to believe 150 million legitimate votes were cast in 2020... no way.

BinAnunnaki 1 hour ago

No one believes for a moment Biden got more votes than Obama

Keyneswasanidiot 3 hours ago

The vast majority of the populace is so propagandized that they don't know or care that the election was so horribly rigged. Just move on. The big wake up will be when either the state goes bankrupt or maybe when the kids are brainwashed into turning in their parents for unsocial behavior. Either way it is and will be too late.

nuerocaster 4 hours ago

The whole gangsterized quid pro quo economy, finance, governance system must be addressed

sgt_doom 1 hour ago (Edited)

Because of the onslaught of election fraud across the nation at all levels, we may be losing sight of the obvious: it explains in several of the user guides how to both generate false results and delete existing ones, which explains the missing and erased logs. Please read these again:

https://democratelectionfraud.blogspot.com/2020/11/dominion-systems-manual-results-files.html


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-exclusive-dominion-voting-machines-ability-create-ballots/

misgivings 5 hours ago remove link

I came across an article at pieceofmindful.com :

"Elections are too important to be left to voters

If the real object of the [year 2000 election] spectacle was to steal the election for Bush, it could have been done easily and quietly. Instead, we had a huge public spectacle...[to] assure the passage of the "Help America Vote Act", which brought in the era of electronic voting machines [which are] easily hacked and basically unauditable."

So, it looks like the voter fraud of 2020 is merely standard operating procedure. The difference is, Trump is proving too uncouth to let sleeping dogs lie. He's kicked open a door that was sup[posed to remain shut.

Unless - this is just another show to put yet another horrible thing in place: a Bio-Patriot Act with mandatory vaccines? A Great Reset that eliminates the Constitution? Trump "flubs", declares Martial Law that invites in the Deep State to assume control and confiscate guns?

HAL9000rev1 6 hours ago (Edited)

Correct on all counts except

QED, Biden did not receive 80M votes.

it is fiction that "there is no evidence of voter fraud" more honestly stated, the corrupt DOJ and court system dont want to consider the overwhelming evidence, the easiest to understand being the unfolded (Unconstitutional) "mail in ballots"

Merry Christmas

[Dec 24, 2020] Dominion voting systems demand letter to Sidney Powell

[PDF] (scanned with errors)
Looks like Sidney Powell overplayed her hand with her Hugo Chavez claims and might pay the price... They also attack her penchant for self-promotion.
This is a solid legal document that attack exaggerations and false claims and as such it puts Sydney Power on the defensive. But at the same time it opens the possibility to analyze Dominion machines and see to what extent votes can be manipulated, for example by lowest sensitivity of the scanner for mail-in ballots and then manually assigning votes to desirable candidate. This avenue is not excluded.
It also does not address the claim of inherent vulnerabilities of any Windows based computer used in election, irrespective whether they were produced by Dominion or any other company due to the known vulnerability of windows OS especially to the intelligence agencies attacks. As well as the most fundamental question: whether the use of computers in election represents step forward or the step back in election security? Especially Internet connected voting machines and centralized tabulation centers deployed in 2020 elections.
So the success here depends whether they can narrow the scope tot ht claims made and avid discovery of the voting machines themselves.
The weak point is that the letter references the testimony of Chris Krebs, who is a former Microsoft employee and as such has a conflict of interests in accessing the security of Windows based election machines produced by Dominion and other companies. Moreover he is now a computer science processional but a lawyer, who does not has any independent opinion on the subject matter due to the absence of fundamental CS knowledge required.
Notable quotes:
"... For example, you falsely claimed that Dominion and its software were created in Venezuela for the purpose of rigging elections for the now-deceased Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, that Dominion paid kickbacks to Georgia officials in return for a "no-bid" contract to use Dominion systems in the 2020 election, and that Dominion rigged the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election by manipulating votes, shifting votes, installing and using an algorithm to modify or "weight" votes such that a vote for Biden counted more than a vote for Trump, trashing Trump votes, adding Biden votes, and training election workers to dispose of Trump votes and to add Biden votes. ..."
"... Fifth, you had a financial incentive in making the defamatory accusations. Your own conduct and statements at the press conference, media tour, and on your websites make it clear that you were publicizing your wild accusations as part of a fundraising scheme and in order to drum up additional business and notoriety for yourself. ..."
Dec 23, 2020 | assets.documentcloud.org

CLARE LOCKE THOMAS A. CLARE, P.C. L L P MEGAN L. MEIER

December 16, 2020 Via Email, Federal Express, & Hand Delivery

Sidney Powell, P.C.

2911 Turtle Creek Blvd, Suite 300 Dallas, Texas 75219

Email: [email protected]

Sidney Powell Defending the Republic 10130 Northlake Blvd. #214342 West Palm Beach, Florida 34412

Re: Defamatory Falsehoods About Dominion

Dear Ms. Powell:

We represent US Dominion Inc. and its wholly owned subsidiaries, Dominion Voting Systems, Inc. and Dominion Voting Systems Corporation (collectively, "Dominion"). We write regarding your wild, knowingly baseless, and false accusations about Dominion, which you made on behalf of the Trump Campaign as part of a coordinated media circus and fundraising scheme featuring your November 19 press conference in Washington, D.C. and including your "Stop the Steal" rally and numerous television and radio appearances on -- and statements to -- Fox News, Fox Business, Newsmax, and the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show, among others.

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I. Your reckless disinformation campaign is predicated on lies that have endangered Dominion's business and the lives of its employees.

Given the sheer volume and ever-expanding set of lies that you have told and are continuing to tell about Dominion as part of your multi-media disinformation "Kraken" fundraising campaign, it would be impractical to address every one of your falsehoods in this letter. Without conceding the truth of any of your claims about Dominion, we write to demand that you retract your most serious false accusations, which have put Dominion's employees' lives at risk and caused enormous harm to the company.

For example, you falsely claimed that Dominion and its software were created in Venezuela for the purpose of rigging elections for the now-deceased Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, that Dominion paid kickbacks to Georgia officials in return for a "no-bid" contract to use Dominion systems in the 2020 election, and that Dominion rigged the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election by manipulating votes, shifting votes, installing and using an algorithm to modify or "weight" votes such that a vote for Biden counted more than a vote for Trump, trashing Trump votes, adding Biden votes, and training election workers to dispose of Trump votes and to add Biden votes.

By way of example only, just last week, you made the following false assertions about Dominion to Jan Jekielek at The Epoch Times:'

Effectively what they did with the machine fraud was to, they did everything from injecting massive quantities of votes into the system that they just made up, to running counterfeit ballots through multiple times in multiple batches to create the appearance of votes that weren't really there. They trashed votes.

These statements are just the tip of the iceberg, which includes similar and other false claims you made at your Washington, D.C. press conference and to other media outlets with global internet audiences. Your outlandish accusations are demonstrably fake. While soliciting people to send you "millions of dollars"2 and holding yourself out as a beacon of truth, you have purposefully avoided naming Dominion as a defendant in your sham litigations-effectively denying Dominion the opportunity to disprove your false accusations in court. Dominion values freedom of speech and respects the right of all Americans-of all political persuasions -- to exercise their First Amendment rights and to disagree with each other. But while you are entitled to your own opinions, Ms. Powell, you are not entitled to your own facts. Defamatory falsehoods are actionable in court and the U.S.

Supreme Court has made clear that "there is no constitutional value in false statements of fact." Gertz v. Welch, Inc., 418 U.S. 323, 340 (1974). Dominion welcomes transparency and a full investigation of the relevant facts in a court of law, where it is confident the truth will prevail. Here are the facts:

1. Dominion's vote counts have been repeatedly verified by paper ballot recounts and independent audits.

Dominion is a non-partisan company that has proudly partnered with public officials from both parties in accurately tabulating the votes of the American people in both "red" and "blue" states and counties. Far from being created to rig elections for a now-deceased Venezuelan dictator, Dominion's voting systems are certified under standards promulgated by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission ("EAC"), reviewed and tested by independent testing laboratories accredited by the EAC, and were designed to be auditable and include a paper ballot backup to verify results. Indeed, paper ballot recounts and independent audits have repeatedly and conclusively debunked your election-rigging claims, and on November 12, 2020, the Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees released a joint statement confirming that there is "no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised" and that the 2020 election was the most secure in American history.3 The Joint Statement was signed and endorsed by, among others, the National Association of State Election Directors, National Association of Secretaries of State, and the U.S. Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency ("CISA") -- then led by a Trump appointee, Chris Krebs.

In addition, your false accusation that Dominion rigged the 2020 election is based on a demonstrably false premise that wildly overstates Dominion's very limited role in elections. Dominion provides tools such as voting machines that accurately tabulate votes for the bipartisan poll workers, poll watchers, and local election officials who work tirelessly to run elections and ensure accurate results. Dominion's machines count votes from county-verified voters using a durable paper ballot. Those paper ballots are the hard evidence proving the accuracy of the vote counts from Dominion's machines. If Dominion had manipulated the votes, the paper ballots would not match the machine totals. In fact, they do match. Recounts and audits have proven that Dominion did what it was designed and hired to do: accurately tabulate votes.

2. Dominion has no connection to Hugo Chavez. Venezuela, or China.

As you are well aware from documents in the public domain and attached to your court filings, Hugo Chavez's elections were not handled by Dominion, but by an entirely different company -- Smartmatic. This is a critical fact because you have premised your defamatory falsehoods on your intentionally false claim that Dominion and Smartmatic are the same company even though you know that they are entirely separate companies who compete with each other. Dominion was not created in or for Venezuela, has never been located there, and is not owned by Smartmatic or Venezuelan or Chinese investors. Dominion has never provided machines or any of its software or technology to Venezuela, nor has it ever participated in any elections in Venezuela. It did not receive $400 million from the Chinese in the weeks before the 2020 election or otherwise. It has no ties to the Chinese government, the Venezuelan government, Hugo Chavez, Malloch Brown, George Soros, Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster. Dominion does not use Smartmatic's software or machines, and there was no Smartmatic technology in any of Dominion's voting machines in the 2020 election.

3. You falsely claimed that Dominion's founder admitted he "can change a million votes, no problem at all" and that you would "tweet out the video later''-- but you never did so because no such video exists.

During at least one of your many media appearances, you promised to "tweet out [a] video" of Dominion's founder admitting that he "can change a million votes, no problem at all." Your assertion -- to a global internet audience -- that you had such damning video evidence bolstered your false accusations that Dominion had rigged the election. Yet you have never produced that video because, as you know, it does not exist. Dominion's founder never made such a claim because Dominion cannot change votes. Its machines simply tabulate the paper ballots that remain the custody of the local election officials -- nothing more, nothing less. 4. You falsely claimed that you have a Dominion employee "on tape" saving he "rigged the election for Biden''-- but you know that no such tape exists. In peddling your defamatory accusations, you also falsely told a national audience that you had a Dominion employee "on tape" saying that "he rigged the election for Biden." Your own court filings prove that no such tape exists. In them, you cited an interview of Joe Oltmann, a Twitter- banned "political activist" who -- far from claiming he had that shocking alleged confession "on tape"-claimed he took "notes" during a conference call he supposedly joined after "infiltrating Antifa." This is a facially ludicrous claim for a number of reasons, including the fact that he lives in Colorado, where it would have been perfectly legal to record such a call if it had actually happened. As a result of your false accusations, that Dominion employee received death threats.

II. Because there is no reliable evidence supporting your defamatory falsehoods, you actively manufactured and misrepresented evidence to support them.

Despite repeatedly touting the overwhelming "evidence" of your assertions during your media campaign, every court to which you submitted that socalled "evidence" has dismissed each of your sham litigations, and even Trump appointees and supporters have acknowledged -- including after you filed your "evidence" in court, posted it on your fundraising website, and touted it in the media -- that there is no evidence that actually supports your assertions about Dominion. Indeed:

... ... ...

Fifth, you had a financial incentive in making the defamatory accusations. Your own conduct and statements at the press conference, media tour, and on your websites make it clear that you were publicizing your wild accusations as part of a fundraising scheme and in order to drum up additional business and notoriety for yourself. Your financial incentive and motive to make the defamatory accusations is further evidence of actual malice. See Brown v. Petrolite Corp., 965 F.2d 38, 47 (5th Cir. 1992); Enigma Software Grp. USA, LLC v. Bleeping Computer LLC, 194 F. Supp. 3d 263, 288 (S.D.N.Y. 2016).

Sixth, you cannot simply claim ignorance of the facts. As a licensed attorney, you were obligated to investigate the factual basis for your claims before making them in court. 31 There is no factual basis for your defamatory accusations against Dominion and numerous reliable sources and documents in the public domain have repeatedly debunked your accusations. As such, you either conducted the inquiry required of you as a licensed attorney and violated your ethical obligations by knowingly making false assertions rebutted by the information you found, or you violated your ethical obligations by purposefully avoiding undertaking the reasonable inquiry required of you as a member of the bar. Either is additional evidence of actual malice.

Taken together, your deliberate misrepresentation and manufacturing of evidence, the inherent improbability of your accusations, your reliance on facially unreliable sources, your intentional disregard of reliable sources, your preconceived storyline, your financial incentive, and your ethical violations are clear and convincing evidence of actual malice. See Eramo v. Rolling Stone, 209 F. Supp. 3d 862,872 (W.D. Va. 2016) (denying defendant's motion for summary judgment and finding "[ajlthough failure to adequately investigate, a departure from journalistic standards, or ill

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[Dec 24, 2020] Dominion Security Director Files Lawsuits Against Trump, Conservative Media - ZeroHedge

Dec 24, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Dominion Security Director Files Lawsuits Against Trump, Conservative Media BY TYLER DURDEN WEDNESDAY, DEC 23, 2020 - 10:15

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

A security director at Dominion Voting Systems , the company charged by many of playing a role in 'rigging' the US election via voting machines, is suing the Trump campaign and several conservative news outlets.

Eric Coomer has filed suit , claiming he has received death threats stemming from the accusations that Dominion helped sway the election in Joe Biden's favour.

The defamation suit identifies the Trump campaign, as well as Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and the conservative news organisations Gateway Pundit, Newsmax, and One America News Network (OANN).

The suit also personally targets conservative talking heads Michelle Malkin and Joseph Oltmann.

Mr Coomer has been identified as the individual referred to by Oltmann as "Eric from Dominion" in statements made to OAN and other conservative outlets regarding alleged bragging to Antifa activists about making sure Trump wasn't going to get re-elected:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qZ_ks_sNITg

The lawsuit states that Mr Coomer has been made "the face of false claims" in relation to Dominion's alleged influence over the election.

The suit further states that photos of Coomer, as well as his home address and personal family details have been made public by some pro-Trump websites.

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Mr Coomer has stated that "I've worked in international elections in all sorts of post-conflict countries where election violence is real and people are getting killed over it. And I feel that we're on the verge of that."

In an op-ed posted by the Denver Post , Coomer declared that he has "no connection to the Antifa movement" and "did not 'rig,' or influence the election."

The lawsuit comes on the heels of a similar threat of legal action by voting machine company Smartmatic, which has issued legal notices to Fox News, OAN and Newsmax, accusing the networks of a "campaign [that] was designed to defame Smartmatic and undermine a legitimately conducted elections."

The legal notice is also said to have specifically named Fox News hosts Lou Dobbs, Jesse Watters, and Maria Bartiromo, and indicates that Smartmatic could pursue legal action against them personally.

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Both Fox News, via Lu Dobbs, and Newsmax have since aired segments that critics say constitute 'walk backs' on previous allegations:

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Dominion itself has not yet issued any legal notices to media outlets. It has, however, sent a letter to Sidney Powell , demanding she retract some "wild and reckless" allegations she has made about them. 43,247 272 NEVER MISS


GoldHermit PREMIUM 9 hours ago

Can't wait for the discovery phase

BaNNeD oN THe RuN 8 hours ago

Exactly, it is very unlikely that the cheating occured at the machine stage since a manual recount would prove the machine's error.

Cheating was done at the ballot level. The data clearly suggests it happened.

Trump supposedly got 11 million more votes in 2020 than in 2016.

Clinton 2016 - 65,853,677
Biden 2020 - 81,284,778 (+15.4mm)

Trump 2016 - 62,985,153
Trump 2020 - 74,224,501 (+11.3mm)

Total Votes 2016 - 137,143,218
Total Votes 2020 - 158,537,765 (+21.4mm)

The data strongly suggests that both teams cheated and that the Democrats were simply the better cheaters this time.

That is a meritocracy of sorts, right?

Gerrilea 7 hours ago

NO, the ballots AND the machines. The "recounts" have not happened...not legitimately.

BaNNeD oN THe RuN 7 hours ago

A manual recount happened in Georgia and confirmed the machine result

All the reports of the cheating in Georgia involve mail in ballots or boxes of ballots counted after the R scrutineers had left.

WedgeMan 7 hours ago remove link

Liar. They did a count using a sample of the ballots and got different number from the two machines because the software had been replaced with the cheating software.

MoreFreedom 8 hours ago

That's why he'll drop the suit. Imagine if people filed lawsuits against Democrats because their affidavit of election fraud caused people to make death threats against them. They claim such suits are without merit.

Just read the Antrim Country Forensics Report on Dominion Voting System. It's just a computer with software, that can be changed during an election (and was in at least one documented case) over the internet by anyone in the world with administrative access to the machines or servers.

HowdyDoody 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

2017 - Voting machines are easily hacked - CNN report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA2DWMHgLnc

2020 - Voting machines are totally secure.

It should be interesting to see how the systems were secured during those 3 years.

Edit:

" The legal notice is also said to have specifically named Fox News hosts Lou Dobbs, Jesse Watters, and Maria Bartiromo, and indicates that Smartmatic could pursue legal action against them personally. "

This smacks of lawfare. Interestingly (((The Only Democracy In The Middle East))) excels at that (via Shurat HaDin) - partly in response to attempts to hold it to account. From wiki (yeah, I know)

"The NGO Forum of the 2001 Durban Conference (31 August 2001 - 8 September 2001) called for the "establishment of a war crimes tribunal" against Israel."

For some reason, that appears to have gone nowhere.

As for Croomer, there is very little background. He says "I've worked in international elections in all sorts of post-conflict countries where election violence is real and people are getting killed over it." - That sounds straight out of CIA/USAID organised US regime change ops.

MoreFreedom 8 hours ago (Edited) remove link

I agree, but it would be great if it does go to court.

Mr Coomer has stated that "I've worked in international elections in all sorts of post-conflict countries where election violence is real and people are getting killed over it. And I feel that we're on the verge of that."

Looks like Dominion is a favorite of "post-conflict countries were election violence is real and people are getting killed". Note the contradiction between "post-conflict" and "people are getting killed". Croomer wants to say his machines are the favorite of "post-conflict" law abiding countries but it seems his machines go to where political violence occurs as a result of crooked elections of despots, or leads to it. Quite an endorsement for election fraud IMHO.

Just read the Antrim County Forensics Report on Dominion Voting System. As an IT guy, my reading is that Croomer will lose his lawsuit, which is why he'll drop it later. You may not have even read in the MSM, that Antrim county did 3 counts of the electronic ballots on 3 different days, and got 3 different results. And no one may have made it clear to you, that 68% of these ballots filled out on electronic screens were flagged as needing to be adjudicated, and they were adjudicated and likely changed by someone with sufficient authority (an administrative user on the system) but the logs have been removed so we don't even know who did it. Did you hear the Dominion voting systems were connected to the internet? Did you know that some Dominion employee changed voting software via the internet during the elections? The MSM wants to keep it quiet. FEC guidelines are that no more than 0.008% (1 of 250,000) should require any adjudication. And did you read the Antrim county, a reliably GOP country, initially had Biden winning on the first count, but in actuality it went to Trump?

I'd like to see Dominion defending against Trump's lawyers and explain how their systems work (which they don't, claiming it's a closed system) and how fraud is prevented. The report states:

We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.

Max21c 8 hours ago (Edited)

Vote out any voting machine company that is not open source and does not make it's code available well in advance of the election... and do it worldwide... (fawk the CIA and British Gestapo)... let the bums in the secret police pick better behaved puppets and make the CIA puppets better govern...

As long as the voting machines are not open source then they are an enigma machine and it's the jeopardy of Pandora's box being opened in numerous elections afterwards over charges and suspicions of election fraud...

Open source for the kernel... open source for all the kernel modules... open source for all the firmware on all the chips, ic's and boards... open source for the higher level applications... et cetera... all the board changes and firmware changes recorded and posted publicly per notice of the change and available for scrutiny and all the "software patches and upgrades" also recorded and posted publicly per notice of the change.. make the changelog available...

source code + the compiler and linker and all the compiled code and all the libraries, header files, and other files... turned over in advance... and any changes thereafter also turned over...the whole shabang... nothing concealed and nothing held back...

donkey_shot 8 hours ago (Edited)

eric "from dominion" coomer who bragged openly about "taking care of the elections" is suing fox, oan and newsmax?

these people know no shame...and are obviously as dumb as rocks, too.

can`t wait for sidney powell and/or lin wood to take up the case and rip this guy another.

NAV 8 hours ago remove link

To trust that justice will be done via America's stacked judicial system is like a Russian trusting in Stalin's judicial system. That is why Coomer is suing; he's been assured the DeepState has his back. All that stands now between American patriots and freedom is their guns.

Our Country Has Been Stolen and Republicans Did Not Prevent the Theft

By Paul Craig Robert . PaulCraigRoberts.org

December 22,2020

Other than President Trump, no one cares enough about America to protect it . So why are we spending $1,000 billion annually to defend ourselves from alleged foreign threats when there is no defense against our country's theft by the ruling Establishment and woke Democrat identity politics ideologues? Why vote Republican when the party does not defend us?

The journalist Katerina Blinova writing in Sputnik International captured the meaning of the stolen presidential election. Democrats are turning America into a " one-party system ".

If the Democrats succeed in stealing the Georgia senatorial seats as well, which is likely given the absence of protection against electoral fraud, they will rapidly move to consolidate one-party dictatorship.

... ... ...

Trident5000 5 hours ago remove link

Fact: Nobody has even audited Dominion code because they claim IP protection.

JosephJohnson 9 hours ago

It is very good that Dominion is suing! --For the legal "facts discovery" process and accompanying legal investigations involving such a lawsuit will be awesome to have revealed in court! The defense will surely bring out some very interesting facts concerning voter fraud with the Dominion machines. Let the lawsuits begin.

propaganda4u 9 hours ago

Not to mention all payments to and from politicians and Dominion.

Sinophile 9 hours ago remove link

" Mr Coomer has stated that "I've worked in international elections in all sorts of post-conflict countries where election violence is real and people are getting killed over it. And I feel that we're on the verge of that."

This guy is unbelievable.

skippy dinner 4 hours ago remove link

You have missed a step.

If A merely alleges that B cheats on his taxes, nothing happens.

But if B sues for defamation , then that puts the onus on B to prove he is squeaky clean. *Then* A gets the powers of discovery on B's tax filings.

Suing for defamation is a dangerous game. Rich and famous people have done time for perjury - e.g. famous novelist and politician Geoffrey Archer.

Hail Spode 8 hours ago

Notice that Dominion as a company did not file the suit, only an employee of the company. And not over the issue of whether their machines and software can, by design, be used to rig an election. Only over the issue of what he said on a particular occasion.

IOW Dominion is still acting guilty and this still would not open the door to discovery.

Freddie 7 hours ago remove link

The new thing I saw online was the Dominion machines have a wireless card built in that can connect to the Internet via wi fi to the thermostat in an office building. No need to have a Cat 5 cable plugged into a router. It goes Wi Fi to the building thermostat that is wi fi.

1984.is.Here 7 hours ago

They did this also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh5j7s1H7ek

Max21c 9 hours ago remove link

So Dominion is claiming that they have no relationship at any time and in any way what-so-ever with the CIA or any other intelligence agency or secret police agency of any country? And they have no ties to any political party and are so super squeaky clean they should be selling soap? Matter of fact they're so super squeaky clean Proctor & Gamble is afraid of them and may have to pay consideration to Dominion to keep them out of the consumer and industrial soap markets.

2banana 9 hours ago

They are trying to keep this lawsuit very narrow with the Antifa focus.

Lawsuits have wide discovery data requests with pretty severe consequences for not delivering the requested data.

NAV 9 hours ago

Dominion Engineer Told Antifa He'd "Made Sure" Trump Wouldn't Win, Report Says

Dominion's top engineer assured Antifa activists that he had "made f**king sure" that President Donald Trump wouldn't win the presidential race, according to reports.

Dominion Voting Systems' Vice President of U.S. Engineering Eric Coomer allegedly spoke with Antifa members on conference calls and reportedly assured the other participants by saying:

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f**king sure of that!"

Dominion Voting Systems is one of the largest voting technology companies in the United States.

Eric Coomer's profile as director at Dominion Voting Systems was recently scrubbed from their website...

https://newsthud.com/dominion-engineer-told-antifa-hed-made-sure-trump-wouldnt-win-report-says/

Nature_Boy_Wooooo 9 hours ago

Hopefully for him he was honest with his attorneys so they could give him the best possible advice. It would be a shame for him to get blindsided in the discovery process.

snatchpounder PREMIUM 9 hours ago

Excellent, dominion just opened the door and the *** ******* they're going to get will be hilarious.

jayman21 PREMIUM 9 hours ago

Hope you are right. We need a functioning gov't more than ever. Doubt they will get what they deserved until the sheep start to wake up en mass ~40% would due the trick.

FakeScience PREMIUM 8 hours ago

In a fair justice system maybe. I'd bet money that it goes before a Soros funded judge who doesn't allow any discovery by the defendant and only accepts evidence by Dominion.

snatchpounder PREMIUM 8 hours ago

Yes the court system is thoroughly corrupt so it's going to be hard to find a judge who isn't a bought and paid for Soros hack.

Cactus52 9 hours ago

Time for Discovery. They do realize the defendant is allowed to do this

Jung 10 hours ago

So why can they do this, while the MSM is hardly ever sued for their malicious, defamatory fake news? Are they really afraid of the owners of the MSM? It would be one of the ways to get rid of the endless propaganda and censorship.

Paul Morphy 4 hours ago

Dominion are trying to play chicken now.

Cretins

Pdunne 2 hours ago

Dominions position is clear enough

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20431227/dominion-voting-systems-demand-letter-to-sidney-powell.pdf

ChesterView 4 hours ago

Here's what Coomer had to say to his "friends" on Facebook on July 21, 2016, who are Trump supporters (language editted):

Facebook friend land- open call-

If you are planning to vote for the autocratic, narcissistic, fascists, a$$-hat blowhard and his Christian jihadist VP pic, UNFRIEND ME NOW!

No, I'm not joking.

I'm all for reasoned political discourse and healthy debate- I'm looking at you ( 3 names of friends).

I disagree with you three on many philosophical grounds but respect your opinions.

Only and absolute F**KING IDIOT could ever vote for that wind-bag f**k-tard FASCIST RACIST F**K!

No bulls**t, I don't give a damn if you're friend, family, or random acquaintance, pull the lever, mark an oval, touch a screen for that carnival barker -- UNFRIEND ME NOW.

I have no desire whatsoever to ever interact with you.

You are beyond hope, beyond reason. you are controlled by fear, reaction, and bulls**t. Get your s**t together.

Oh, it that doesn't persuade you, F**K YOU! Seriously, this f**king a$$-clown stands against everything that makes this country awesome!

You want in on that? You deserve nothing but contempt.

ableman28 6 hours ago

Just because people who don't like trump have facts on their side, boo hoo. We have belief and that is much stronger than reality. Let those courts hear the suit and if Sydney loses big deal. What are they going to do, disbar her and seize her assets to pay the other sides legal fees and judgement.

"Yes, my son, that is exactly what is going to happen."`

naro 6 hours ago

Why doesn't the Trump reelection office announce a $10 million reward and a full pardon for any Dominion insider who can provide evidence of rigging of the machines to favor Democrats?

Decimus Lunius Luvenalis 10 hours ago

Personally, I thought the voting systems fraud were pretty big with little, if any, direct evidence. Powell claimed to know the algorithm but we never saw it. That said, truth is an affirmative defense to a defamation claim, and discovery goes both ways.

Itchy and Scratchy 10 hours ago remove link

The software is probably long since erased and the audit trails destroyed. They will find nothing.

[Dec 24, 2020] -Fascist- MI AG Dana Nessel Threatens Lawyer Who Released Results Of Forensic Exam of 16 Dominion Voting Machines In Antrim C

Dec 24, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Constitutional Attorney Matthew DePerno is an American hero. Two weeks ago, Michigan 13th Circuit Court Judge Kevin A Elsenheimer agreed to allow Mr. DePerno's client, William Bailey, and a highly skilled team of IT experts to perform a forensic examination on 16 of the Dominion voting machines in Antrim County, MI. On Monday, Judge Elsenheimer agreed to allow the results of the forensic examination to be released to the public. The results were damning.

After the forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim, Co., MI, Allied Security Operations Group has concluded that the Dominion Voting machines were assigned a 68.05% error rate. DePerno explained that when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication, which means they collect the ballots in a folder. "The ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote," DePerno explained. The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is 1 in 250,000 ballots or .0008%.

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Based on the Allied Security Operations report, Constitutional Attorney Matthew DePerno states: "we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.

The stunning report was widely criticized by the Democrat Party mainstream media and by the dishonest Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson and Attorney General Dana Nessel

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Yesterday, The Detroit News announced that AG Nessel is planning to seek sanctions against lawyers "who pushed to overturn Michigan's election results."

Sanctions sought against lawyers who pushed to overturn Michigan's election
Attorney General Dana Nessel said she plans to seek sanctions against lawyers who filed lawsuits against the sta

"It is unfathomable that licensed attorneys would deliberately file false and misleading affidavits and pleadings with the Court in an effort to disenfranchise millions of Michigan residents," Davis said. "Not only should these individuals and their attorneys be assessed financial sanctions, but they also should be barred from practicing in the federal courts in the Eastern District of Michigan."

While Nessel didn't mention the names of lawyers she may pursue sanctions against, she indicated that those who filed later, after the initial allegations had been assessed and denied immediate relief, were more culpable.

She said she could file against a lawyer associated with a case challenging Antrim County results and false statements he made on Newsmax and OANN. Matthew DePerno filed the case in Antrim County on behalf of resident William Bailey.

"I think we need to go back to a time where you can trust an attorney is making an accurate and truthful representation to the court because if they don't, then they won't be able to practice law anymore," Nessel said.


DePerno responded to MSNBC's far-left producer Kyle Griffin who tweeted the article by the Detroit News, that DePerno refers to as a "hit piece." In his response to Griffin, DePerno wrote: "Thanks Kyle for showing us what fascism and state run media look like. #Fascism #totalitarianism

Earlier today, Mr. DePerno appeared on the popular Frank Beckmann radio show on WJR (760 AM) where he explained how his law license is now being threatened by Michigan's far-left AG Dana Nessel.

DePerno called on MI Democrat AG Dana Nessel to "resign," saying she violated her oath of office with these threats. He called her out for "thuggery" and told the WJR host that in "his opinion" she is "acting like a fascist." DePerno also calls out Nessel for threatening MI lawmakers with criminal prosecution who dared to challenge the validity of the election results in MI.

Nessel, who is anything but warm and fuzzy, shared a videotaped public service announcement in which she appears wearing an elf-like costume while wearing a witch-like hat on her head. For many in Michigan who are disgusted by her totalitarian tactics and threats against those with whom she disagrees, the witch hat is the perfect choice for their overreaching AG.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel @MIAttyGen · 13h As we wrap up our 20 Day of Scams, we want to be sure you know how to reach our Consumer Protection team to file a complaint online, by fax, or U.S. mail. For more information about our complaint process, visit http:// mi.gov/agcomplaints .

[Dec 24, 2020] Matt Gaetz: The DNC ran to the mailbox where they could process hundreds of thousands of votes, oftentimes in the dark of night without signature matches, excluding the observers, sometimes where people voted in different states, sometimes when they lived in different states, sometimes when they weren't even alive at all.

Dec 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

A123 , says: December 22, 2020 at 6:11 am GMT • 21.2 hours ago

#OccupySCOTUS

The January 6, Electoral College floor fight has already been openly declared. Here is Matt Gaetz commentary: (1)

[The DNC] ran to the mailbox where they could process hundreds of thousands of votes, oftentimes in the dark of night without signature matches, excluding the observers, sometimes where people voted in different states, sometimes when they lived in different states, sometimes when they weren't even alive at all.

And so on January 6th, I'm joining with the fighters in the Congress and we are going to object to electors from states that didn't run clean elections.

Trump is organizing Washington DC rally also for January 6. (2)

President Donald Trump has doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on his claim of being the 2020 election's rightful winner by releasing an adrenaline-packed "Fight for Trump" video and vowing to hold a "wild" protest in Washington, D.C. on Jan 6th.

There is still significant hope that on January 6, VP Pence will deliver the accurate Electoral College result confirming Trump's re-election. At that point, keeping the determination for Trump away from SCOTUS interference is the hardest task.

It may or may not be called #OccupySCOTUS , however assembling a mass movement in front of the Supreme Court building will deliver a message. The one thing that spineless Justices want to protect most is themselves. Their jelly-like preference for an "immoral peace" will squish when they see imminent personal risk.

Allowing proven loser Biden to steal office only happens if Justices accept the Fake Stream Media [FSM] narrative that it will defuse the situation. The January 6 rally will show the Justices 1st hand that the FSM narrative is 100% wrong. Allowing Biden's fraud to seize the Oval Office will inflame the situation and guarantee a crisis .

PEACE
_______

(1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/20/matt-gaetz-promises-to-object-to-electors-from-states-that-didnt-run-clean-elections-on-january-6/

(2) https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/20/trump-shares-fight-for-trump-save-america-save-the-world-video-promises-wild-dc-protest-on-jan-6-1007792/

follyofwar , says: December 22, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 12.4 hours ago
@A123 the 2000 election, VP Gore was in the awkward position of being in charge of the electoral college ritual. Even though he was convinced he had been screwed in Florida, and other democrats in Congress agreed, not ONE Senator came forward to dispute the Florida results, which GWB allegedly won by a mere 537 votes.

RINO McConnell (no friend of Trump) has already warned republican senators not to challenge the EC vote on Jan.6th. To date, none, to my knowledge, has gone on record saying they plan to defy him. Any that do so know they'll be blackballed, and won't receive any financial support from the RNC. Thus, I doubt if it will happen.

A123 , says: December 22, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT • 10.8 hours ago
@follyofwar O McConnell (no friend of Trump) has already warned republican senators not to challenge the EC vote

McConnell cannot put the hammer down on pro-USA Senators. He will either have a razor thin margin as leader, or be the guy who lost the Senate for the Republicans. Trump's Team will organize rallies and fundraisers for his loyal supporters, so any GOP financial threats are laughable.

PEACE

(1) https://thegrio.com/2020/12/09/gop-senator-may-challenge-electoral-college-results/

, follyofwar , says: December 22, 2020 at 3:29 pm GMT • 11.9 hours ago
@Kolya Krassotkin

Indeed, I cannot think of one politician who would have had the gonads to stand up to the endless abuse from the deep state, which Trump has withstood for over 4 years, without cracking up and resigning. Nixon, who had recently won a landslide re-election in 1972, resigned after much less. He should have known that you don't voluntarily give up the reigns of power, and knuckle under to some pipsqueaks from the democrat controlled media named Woodward and Bernstein. To his dying day, from what I've read, Nixon regretted his terrible decision.

[Dec 23, 2020] 2017 - Voting machines are easily hacked - CNN report. 2020 - Voting machines are totally secure -- neoliberal MSM consensus

Dec 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

HowdyDoody 5 hours ago (Edited)

Edit:

" The legal notice is also said to have specifically named Fox News hosts Lou Dobbs, Jesse Watters, and Maria Bartiromo, and indicates that Smartmatic could pursue legal action against them personally. "

This smacks of lawfare. Interestingly (((The Only Democracy In The Middle East))) excels at that (via Shurat HaDin) - partly in response to attempts to hold it to account. From wiki (yeah, I know)

"The NGO Forum of the 2001 Durban Conference (31 August 2001 - 8 September 2001) called for the "establishment of a war crimes tribunal" against Israel."

For some reason, that appears to have gone nowhere.

As for Croomer, there is very little background. He says "I've worked in international elections in all sorts of post-conflict countries where election violence is real and people are getting killed over it." - That sounds straight out of CIA/USAID organised US regime change ops.

[Dec 23, 2020] Dominion Security Director Files Lawsuits Against Trump, Conservative Media

Dec 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

DonGenaro 4 hours ago remove link

is he sure he has standing ? :-)

Fish Gone Bad 2 hours ago

Good one.

[Dec 22, 2020] Attorney Jenna Ellis Says President Trump Should Not Use Insurrection Act by Charlie McCarthy

Dec 21, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

Attorney Jenna Ellis has advised President Donald Trump against using the Insurrection Act as he continues to challenge the election results.

The 1807 Insurrection Act is a federal law that allows the president, under very specific circumstances, to deploy the U.S. armed forces to suppress civil disorder, rebellion, or insurrection.

"Certainly, I would not advise that the American people want that" because of the "precedent that it would set," Ellis told Just the News .

"We have a constitutional process for a reason, and we have the judicial branch that really does need to step in. I think that the Supreme Court absolutely let the American people down by refusing to take up the Texas case."

Although disappointed in the Supreme Court and some state lawmakers regarding their actions surrounding alleged voter fraud, Ellis said the present circumstances are not the type of situations for which the Insurrection Act was created.

"The state legislatures, they can look at all of this corruption, they can look at how their laws and their states were totally ignored, and they can take back their delegates at any time," said Ellis, one of the president's attorneys in his bid to overturn his election loss to Joe Biden. "And they can refuse to go along with the certifications that are absolutely false and fraudulent. So that's the constitutional solution."

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Ellis said pursuing alleged election fraud should not supersede the Constitution.

"We have to still make sure that even though we see that our country has been undermined by corruption, our solution can't be to undermine the Constitution ourselves," Ellis said.

"We have to go through the process, we have to hold our leaders accountable. And at the end of the day, if we don't get a correction, in this case, we have to fight to make sure that this never happens again."

The last time the Insurrection Act was invoked was 1992, when the Los Angeles riots forced the action, per The Epoch Times .

[Dec 22, 2020] Giuliani- Governors Won't Give Access to Voting Machines - Newsmax.com

Dec 22, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani tells Newsmax TV his team can prove their allegations of voter fraud, but the governors of the contested states won't allow access to their voting machines.

Appearing Monday on "Spicer & Co.," Giuliani, career prosecutor and onetime mayor of New York City, told host Sean Spicer that the Trump team needs to prove only 10,000 contested votes in Arizona.

"Don't you think it's going to be pretty easy to show 10,000 noncitizens voted in Arizona?" he said. "Give me the names of the people who voted and run them against a Lexis-Nexis" search, he said. "I'll come up with 40,000 noncitizens."

"Nor will they let us look at the machines," he said. "If they didn't cheat, Sean, why won't they let us examine the machines? Why does the governor of Georgia continue to hold onto the machine the city paid $110 million for, and he refuses to let us examine them?

If President-elect Joe Biden doesn't want a cloud on his presidency, he should encourage an examination of the machines, Giuliani said.

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"There's no reason to go beyond anything that this election was a theft. It could be proven," Giuliani said. "I can tell you one simple thing that would prove it make the American people feel really good. Five or six of these crooked governors could let us have access to the machines. In fact, if they did, maybe I would have to apologize for saying they're crooked."

[Dec 21, 2020] Attempt to prove election fraud as a new Catch22

Some comments were edited for clarity
Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
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Cognitive Dissonance PREMIUM 7 hours ago (Edited)

No standing before the election. Too late to complain or sue after the election.

The new Catch 22.

Definition of catch-22

1 : a problematic situation for which the only solution is denied by a circumstance inherent in the problem or by a rule the show-business catch-22 -- no work unless you have an agent, no agent unless you've worked -- Mary Murphy also : the circumstance or rule that denies a solution

2a : an illogical, unreasonable, or senseless situation

b : a measure or policy whose effect is the opposite of what was intended

c : a situation presenting two equally undesirable alternatives

3 : a hidden difficulty or means of entrapment : catch

NoPension 6 hours ago

Heads I win. Tails you lose.

Tristan Ludlow 6 hours ago

Those that make fair elections impossible, will make violent revolutions inevitable, to paraphrase Kennedy.

StaySunny3000 7 hours ago

What a weasel decision. How do the judges expect the plantiffs to round up all the clerks who looked at ballots? Is it not the Sec. of State's responsibility to oversee the actions of the clerks? Wouldn't it be more proficient and, dare I say it, logical , to focus on the man that made the fraud possible?

Courts have been totally politicized. Justice isn't blind, it's been decapitated.

tunEphsh 7 hours ago remove link

Usual BS from courts--lack standing. No one has standing. Judges afraid of losing their jobs if they rule against the state. Shows how corrupt Georgia is (and other states too).

yerfej 7 hours ago

The reality is the US (all western nations) is done as a country, it is now a giant Mafioso organization run by neoliberals. After six decades the neoliberals have finally consolidated power over the media, courts, academia, bureaucracy, and big tech. No one can challenge the power structure, it is total and vicious, and anyone in their sights will be destroyed. Now is when people begin to realize what has transpired and the opposition begins to create resistance which will take a long time to formulate.

[Dec 21, 2020] Brooding in the Marble City beside the Great Swamp

Notable quotes:
"... j. casey , 18 December 2020 at 12:45 PM ..."
"... Resonates with Escobar: "...a Deep State intel source told me, 'the Supreme Court did not like to see half the country rioting against them, and preferred the decision be made by each state in the House of Representatives. That is the only way to handle this without jeopardizing the union. Even prominent Democrats I know realize that the fix took place. The error was to steal too many votes. This grand theft indicts the whole system, that has always been corrupt.'" ..."
"... Eric Newhill , 18 December 2020 at 12:56 PM ..."
"... This story seems apocryphal to me. I'm not convinced it happened; at least not that way. ..."
"... All we hear from the swamp is that right wing deplorables are the greatest threat to internal security. Now I ain't no genius of the caliber of those sitting in the Supreme Court, but even if I was a swampy I would calculate that I should fear an enraged right wing deplorable mob, with all of their fully semi-automatic scary assault weapons of war, a lot more than a bunch of thin beard coffee house rejects armed with sticks and stones. ..."
"... Bill H , 18 December 2020 at 01:28 PM ..."
"... The decision not to hear the Texas case was so illogical that I concluded at once that fear of rioting was the actual cause for the decision. As everyone wondered why Democratic state governors allowed the violence to continue, I suspected at the time that it was a warning of what would happen if Democrats lost in November. ..."
"... Barbara Ann , 18 December 2020 at 02:09 PM ..."
"... The question you pose is of supreme importance, as of course is the question of the unknowable mind & will of the President. My own views on the latter crystallized after seeing Trump's December 2nd speech, which appeared to me to be a clear warning to the courts to sort out the mess, or else. I recognize the argument of critics who point to a lack of precedent when decisive action has been called for in the past, but surely an uncommitted man would by now have thrown in the towel. ..."
"... I always go back to Trump's motivations for running for office. He is many things, but dumb ain't one of them. He must have known 5 years ago that he was going to war with the swamp and that in the absence of a negotiated peace (no sign of which is in evidence) such a war must have a winner and a loser. Trump is a high risks go-for-broke type and I happen to believe he is truly motivated by wanting to save the country and uphold his oath. There are 2 antithetical points of view on the merits of his strategy, but none of that changes what Trump himself believes and that alone will determine his actions. ..."
"... If the SCOTUS is truly irredeemably compromised, either by partisan views and/or by fear of the mob - a self-fulfilling irony is ever there was one - must a patriot still feel compelled to abide by the law? Or are we now in the territory covered by Alexander Dumas' famous epigram; "The difference between treason and patriotism is only a matter of dates". ..."
"... Rudy, Jenna & crew seem to have more constitutional slight of hand up their sleeves, but the scope for this looks extremely limited and all of it pretty much guaranteed to have the mob in the streets anyway I would think. Pence does not strike me as a do or die kind of guy and I just can't see him standing in front of Congress counting the various states' duplicate EC votes for Trump on the 6th. ..."
"... I don't know enough about the Insurrection Act to comment on the increasingly widespread calls among Trump supporters to have it invoked. But in the absence of insurrection how could orders given under it be considered legal? It is notable I think that Sidney Powell - a lawyer - recently joined Mike Flynn in retweeting a call for exactly this. Trump's Twitter is an oasis of ominous calm in comparison. ..."
"... Deap , 18 December 2020 at 03:50 PM ..."
"... What does the swamp have on Roberts? - The internet is forever, so it is interesting to look back when there was similar speculation about Roberts after his Obamacare ruling; also considered a major conservative betrayal.. ..."
"... Up come familiar names from this background search - Brennan and Clapper and the curious adoption by Roberts of two very blond children from "Latin America". The speculation was deep-staters Clapper/Brennan would use Robert's own kids suspect adoption legality against him. Search for more details about this speculation at the time. True or not, it was the operational buzz. ..."
"... However, at that same time during the Obama years with more than a little irony - (about 2010?) - it was considered ludicrous to even speculate the "government" would take actions against someone's children, in order to get what they wanted. ..."
"... That was then; this is now. I suspect Michael Flynn has a different understanding today about how far the "government" will go against ones children, to get what they want. And it was the same "government" - the Obama government. ..."
"... There has always been the threat of violence surrounding that man. From being "selected" to be Harvard Law Review President to election eve 2008 -to the four years of ginned up anti-Trump violence, and threats against a fair election in 2020. ..."
"... Neal , 18 December 2020 at 07:22 PM ..."
"... Personally, I think the denial of cert was absolutely correct. Why? Because this is the ultimate 'political question'. Since the Supremes are traditionally chosen from among the more learned political hacks in the Republic, it's always been a bit of a fairy tale to pretend that they always refrain from determining political questions, and it never turns out well for the Court when they don't, but here we're talking about a national election. This is clearly not a decision for the judicial power. It's supposed to be decided in the states by the counting of votes (and all the legislatures have passed laws saying so, none have reserved the power to cast the electors to the legislature, despite the authorization to do so in the constitution). As Scott S. points out above, they knew this in 1876, and I suppose that is why no one then thought the Supremes could just decide the matter, although Supreme Court judges served on the commission, presumably to add what little 'gravitas' they may have had. And of course, this is why the Supremes shouldn't have waded into the Bush-Gore election (but then Tom Delay would have had to play the the king maker in accordance with the constitution, and that was a no-go for some reason). ..."
"... The reason given in the cert denial decision was perfectly correct, too. Texas has no standing to complain about the conduct of the election in Pennsylvania, etc. Not if the states retain any "sovereignty" in our federal republic. Whatever may or may not have happened in Pennsylvania or Georgia did not prevent Texas prevent from casting their electors. An expansion of the use of mail ballots in another state, with or without action by the state's legislature, has no effect on Texas' election. Therefore, no harm done to the state of Texas. Suddenly conservatives oppose states rights? ..."
"... The only arguable basis for the Supremes -- or any part of the federal government -- to get involved would be Article 4, section 4. We'd be saying that Pennsylvania and Georgia no longer had republican forms of government. Shades of Shays' Rebellion, perhaps? I guess that is why there's all this talk about the insurrection act. ..."
"... Which reminds me of Rehnquist's sarcastic citing of all the lunch counter sit-in cases in Bush v Gore, cases that he had spent his life opposing, so that he could join in the equal protection argument just long enough to then say it was too late to fashion any remedy in Florida. ..."
"... By the way, the Court has denied the story about yelling in the hallways. Apparently they've been conferencing by telephone since last March. ..."
Dec 21, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

j. casey , 18 December 2020 at 12:45 PM

Resonates with Escobar: "...a Deep State intel source told me, 'the Supreme Court did not like to see half the country rioting against them, and preferred the decision be made by each state in the House of Representatives. That is the only way to handle this without jeopardizing the union. Even prominent Democrats I know realize that the fix took place. The error was to steal too many votes. This grand theft indicts the whole system, that has always been corrupt.'"

Eric Newhill , 18 December 2020 at 12:56 PM


This story seems apocryphal to me. I'm not convinced it happened; at least not that way.

All we hear from the swamp is that right wing deplorables are the greatest threat to internal security. Now I ain't no genius of the caliber of those sitting in the Supreme Court, but even if I was a swampy I would calculate that I should fear an enraged right wing deplorable mob, with all of their fully semi-automatic scary assault weapons of war, a lot more than a bunch of thin beard coffee house rejects armed with sticks and stones.

Bill H , 18 December 2020 at 01:28 PM

The decision not to hear the Texas case was so illogical that I concluded at once that fear of rioting was the actual cause for the decision. As everyone wondered why Democratic state governors allowed the violence to continue, I suspected at the time that it was a warning of what would happen if Democrats lost in November.

Barbara Ann , 18 December 2020 at 02:09 PM

Colonel Lang

The question you pose is of supreme importance, as of course is the question of the unknowable mind & will of the President. My own views on the latter crystallized after seeing Trump's December 2nd speech, which appeared to me to be a clear warning to the courts to sort out the mess, or else. I recognize the argument of critics who point to a lack of precedent when decisive action has been called for in the past, but surely an uncommitted man would by now have thrown in the towel.

I always go back to Trump's motivations for running for office. He is many things, but dumb ain't one of them. He must have known 5 years ago that he was going to war with the swamp and that in the absence of a negotiated peace (no sign of which is in evidence) such a war must have a winner and a loser. Trump is a high risks go-for-broke type and I happen to believe he is truly motivated by wanting to save the country and uphold his oath. There are 2 antithetical points of view on the merits of his strategy, but none of that changes what Trump himself believes and that alone will determine his actions.

If the SCOTUS is truly irredeemably compromised, either by partisan views and/or by fear of the mob - a self-fulfilling irony is ever there was one - must a patriot still feel compelled to abide by the law? Or are we now in the territory covered by Alexander Dumas' famous epigram; "The difference between treason and patriotism is only a matter of dates".

Rudy, Jenna & crew seem to have more constitutional slight of hand up their sleeves, but the scope for this looks extremely limited and all of it pretty much guaranteed to have the mob in the streets anyway I would think. Pence does not strike me as a do or die kind of guy and I just can't see him standing in front of Congress counting the various states' duplicate EC votes for Trump on the 6th.

I don't know enough about the Insurrection Act to comment on the increasingly widespread calls among Trump supporters to have it invoked. But in the absence of insurrection how could orders given under it be considered legal? It is notable I think that Sidney Powell - a lawyer - recently joined Mike Flynn in retweeting a call for exactly this. Trump's Twitter is an oasis of ominous calm in comparison.

Deap , 18 December 2020 at 03:50 PM

What does the swamp have on Roberts? - The internet is forever, so it is interesting to look back when there was similar speculation about Roberts after his Obamacare ruling; also considered a major conservative betrayal..

Up come familiar names from this background search - Brennan and Clapper and the curious adoption by Roberts of two very blond children from "Latin America". The speculation was deep-staters Clapper/Brennan would use Robert's own kids suspect adoption legality against him. Search for more details about this speculation at the time. True or not, it was the operational buzz.

However, at that same time during the Obama years with more than a little irony - (about 2010?) - it was considered ludicrous to even speculate the "government" would take actions against someone's children, in order to get what they wanted.

That was then; this is now. I suspect Michael Flynn has a different understanding today about how far the "government" will go against ones children, to get what they want. And it was the same "government" - the Obama government.

There has always been the threat of violence surrounding that man. From being "selected" to be Harvard Law Review President to election eve 2008 -to the four years of ginned up anti-Trump violence, and threats against a fair election in 2020.

Neal , 18 December 2020 at 07:22 PM

Personally, I think the denial of cert was absolutely correct. Why? Because this is the ultimate 'political question'. Since the Supremes are traditionally chosen from among the more learned political hacks in the Republic, it's always been a bit of a fairy tale to pretend that they always refrain from determining political questions, and it never turns out well for the Court when they don't, but here we're talking about a national election. This is clearly not a decision for the judicial power. It's supposed to be decided in the states by the counting of votes (and all the legislatures have passed laws saying so, none have reserved the power to cast the electors to the legislature, despite the authorization to do so in the constitution). As Scott S. points out above, they knew this in 1876, and I suppose that is why no one then thought the Supremes could just decide the matter, although Supreme Court judges served on the commission, presumably to add what little 'gravitas' they may have had. And of course, this is why the Supremes shouldn't have waded into the Bush-Gore election (but then Tom Delay would have had to play the the king maker in accordance with the constitution, and that was a no-go for some reason).

The reason given in the cert denial decision was perfectly correct, too. Texas has no standing to complain about the conduct of the election in Pennsylvania, etc. Not if the states retain any "sovereignty" in our federal republic. Whatever may or may not have happened in Pennsylvania or Georgia did not prevent Texas prevent from casting their electors. An expansion of the use of mail ballots in another state, with or without action by the state's legislature, has no effect on Texas' election. Therefore, no harm done to the state of Texas. Suddenly conservatives oppose states rights?

The only arguable basis for the Supremes -- or any part of the federal government -- to get involved would be Article 4, section 4. We'd be saying that Pennsylvania and Georgia no longer had republican forms of government. Shades of Shays' Rebellion, perhaps? I guess that is why there's all this talk about the insurrection act.

Which reminds me of Rehnquist's sarcastic citing of all the lunch counter sit-in cases in Bush v Gore, cases that he had spent his life opposing, so that he could join in the equal protection argument just long enough to then say it was too late to fashion any remedy in Florida.

By the way, the Court has denied the story about yelling in the hallways. Apparently they've been conferencing by telephone since last March.

[Dec 21, 2020] Michael Flynn said he was provided information that foreign intelligence agencies were monitoring the U.S. election on Nov. 3 and are willing to provide evidence to President Donald Trump

Dec 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

dh-mtl , Dec 21 2020 15:26 utc | 105

'Michael Flynn said he was provided information that foreign intelligence agencies were monitoring the U.S. election on Nov. 3 and are willing to provide evidence to President Donald Trump.'

( https://www.theepochtimes.com/flynn-foreign-intelligence-agencies-were-monitoring-us-election-willing-to-provide-information-to-trump_3626171.html)

So this is what this SolarWinds hacking ruckus is all about?

[Dec 21, 2020] Appeals Court Rejects Lawsuit Seeking Stronger Signature-Matching In Georgia Senate Runoffs

Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

7 hours ago

This lack of standing...

The Supreme Court appears to take the position that fraud is a constitutional right, as there appears to be no legal remedy for fraud in the election process...

Perhaps we should cut through this entire process...

Just meet in the street and gun each other down... last man standing gets to be president... play_arrow 61 play_arrow 1


Cognitive Dissonance PREMIUM 6 hours ago (Edited)

Best damn Banana Republic EVER!

Lansman 6 hours ago

"A district court found the p laintiffs lacked standing,..."

I'm not a lawyer, does "plaintiffs lacked standing" mean, "plaintiffs represent the wrong party" ?

kfletcher31411 5 hours ago

Lansman - It definitely means "only good party members", the rest of us are nothing.

pfmonte1 5 hours ago

It means that the court would have had to grow a pair and actually render a decision and be exposed as naked grifters in black robes.

teutonicate 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Appeals Court Rejects Lawsuit Seeking Stronger Signature-Matching In Georgia Senate Runoffs

"Lack of standing" is the cop-out of the month for corrupt or invertebrate judges.

I guess its time for martial law, since regular law doesn't seem to be working any more.

www.germanica.org

HuskerGirl 7 hours ago

My God. Doesn't every citizen have standing in a case that demands a fair election?

The courts are using standing as an excuse to avoid ruling on difficult cases and are leaving important Constitutional questions unanswered as a result.

These judges should step down if they can't handle the heat of upholding the Constitution.

[Dec 21, 2020] Evidence of election fraud in Nevada

Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
chubbar 9 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/goHz1uEhbsDs/

BOOM!!! JESSE BINNALL'S DEVASTATING EVIDENCE OF ELECTION FRAUD IN NEVADA BEFORE THE SENATE COMMITTEE

[Dec 21, 2020] YouTube Removes Video of Trump Lawyer's Opening Statement at Senate Committee Hearing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fLtD89wKMg
Dec 21, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

"YouTube has decided that my opening statement in the U.S. [Senate], given under oath and based upon hard evidence, is too dangerous for you to see; they removed it. To this day, 'our evidence has never been refuted, only ignored.' Why is Google so afraid of the truth? #BigBrother," lawyer Jesse Binnall wrote on Twitter.

[Dec 21, 2020] Trump is lied to by his own advisers, who tell staff "get the president to concede" while they stall Trump. Meadows + Lawyers Eric, Derek, GC Pat Cippollone (leaker)."

Dec 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

gm , Dec 21 2020 9:37 utc | 81

Wow! Amazing if true.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/betrayed-within-patrick-byrne-blasts-white-house-staff-attending-election-meeting-president-trump-sydney-powell-gen-flynn/

"Former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne blasted President Trump's chief of staff Mark Meadows and White House lawyers in comments posted online Sunday about a meeting at the White House Friday night with Trump about the contested presidential election that Byrne attended with attorney Sydney Powell and former Trump national security advisor Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn (U.S. Army ret.), saying that Trump is being "betrayed from within." Byrne also denied the reporting that a military coup or martial law were discussed.

"My involvement is I was in the room when it happened. The raised voices included my own. I can promise you: President Trump is being terribly served by his advisers. They want him to lose and are lying to him. He is surrounding by mendacious mediocrities."..In addition, any suggestion if there was talk of a military coup or martial law is also a flat lie. 100% false. I was there for 4 1/2 hours, I heard the entire conversation, that is a complete fabrication.

Byrne called out White House Counsel Pat Cipollone as the leaker to the New York Times about the meeting and accused Meadows and White House staffers of lying to Trump to get him to concede, "I was there for the full 4.5 hour meeting. Claims military coup/martial law were discussed is 100% fabrication. Trump is lied to by his own advisers, who tell staff "get the president to concede" while they stall Trump. Meadows + Lawyers Eric, Derek, GC Pat Cippollone (leaker)."


gm , Dec 21 2020 10:05 utc | 82

WH Gen. Counsel Pat Cippolone was Wm Barr's assistant in 1992-1993, when Barr was GHWB 41's AG,

AND Pat Cippolone was a parner at Kirland & Ellis, same law firm as Barr-nedict Arnold worked at right before becoming Trump's AG.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Cipollone

[Dec 21, 2020] We need a tea party for those machines. Nation wide.

Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

chubbar 9 hours ago

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/fox-news-fbn-block-attorney-matthew-deperno-appearing-hannity-lou-dobbs-explosive-antrim-county-report-dominion-voting-machines/

Yeah, all of this is completely normal and innocent. Unreal.

Xena fobe 9 hours ago

We need a tea party for those machines. Nation wide.

[Dec 21, 2020] Kicking the CIA out of power would be a very positive change for America. Without the CIA serving as the nervous system the Deep State would collapse

Dec 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Dec 21 2020 12:26 utc | 92

gm @84

If the Trump administration has sufficient concrete, smoking-gun proof that the CIA cooked the election, and more importantly can use that proof to enlist a power base within the government (such as the military) that has the strength to neutralize/decapitate the CIA, then the Deep State as we know it will be finished.

Without the CIA serving as the nervous system that gives the Deep State coordination and direction then the Deep State would devolve to a formless jellyfish blob. It would still be an annoying bureaucracy, but it would go back to taking its direction from the Administrative Branch rather than vice versa.

Kicking the CIA out of power would be a huge coup that would reverberate though society for years. The impact would be felt in newsrooms and college campuses from coast to coast. CIA "assets" and collaborators would still be being tracked down, tried, and imprisoned for decades to come.

I won't hold my breath for it but that would be a very positive change for America.

[Dec 20, 2020] SCOTUS 'Won't Even Consider' Trump's Pennsylvania Case Until AFTER January 6 Electoral College Certification

Dec 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Corn Popp

SCOTUS 'Won't Even Consider' Trump's Pennsylvania Case Until AFTER January 6 Electoral College Certification

https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-scotus-wont-even-consider-trumps-pennsylvania-case-until-after-january-6-electoral-college-certification/

[Dec 17, 2020] THERE IT IS- Fired Cyber -Expert- Chris Krebs Admits in Senate Hearing that Dominion Voting Machines Linked to the Internet

Gateway Pundit staff was first told by Michigan witness Senator Patrick Colbeck in early November that the routers and WiFi connectors were used throughout the TCF Center during the ballot counting on election night.
Dec 17, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com
Crash GIVE THEM NOTHING @CrashPatriot · Dec 16, 2020 What a joke @BlessUSA45 "Most Secure Elections In US HISTORY" and then when pressed HE ADMITS - I was not referring to FRAUD !!!! Image Troy @LibertyTroy Dems said vote machines were never on the Internet. BOOM 👇 Senator Johnson: "...but those tabulators are connected on Election Day 'cause that's how they transmit the data to the counties and also into the official -- uhm --" Krebs: "In some cases, yes, sir."

[Dec 17, 2020] The Fraud Happened Senator Rand Paul Accuses States Of Using COVID To Steal Election

This is a real crisis of legitimacy for Biden administration.
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Senator Rand Paul accused Georgia and other states of using the COVID-19 pandemic to steal the election in a move he says could have came from the playbook of Obama Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, who famously said, "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

Appearing on Fox News prior to the Wednesday Senate hearing on election irregularities, Senator Paul was asked how revelations, such as the one out of Georgia showing more than 1,700 voters illegally submitted two ballots during the Nov. 3 contest, would effect the upcoming runoff elections in the Empire State of the South.

Paul would respond, saying: "You'd think that all of this would be investigated and tried to be fixed before the election."

The Senator went on to run off a list of voter fraud examples in Georgia, including the 1,700 double votes , votes from commercial addresses , and dead voters casting ballots .

He also pointed to potential illegal voting activity in Nevada:

"We're going to hear testimony from Nevada where 15 hundred people were deceased and should not have voted, four thousand people were illegal aliens, and 15 thousand people voted from commercial address when you have to vote from a home address."

Echoing the case laid out by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton in his recently dismissed Supreme Court lawsuit, Paul accused states of using the COVID-19 crisis to dodge state and federal election law, comparing the move to a play right out of the Obama, Rahm Emanuel playbook:

"It's sort of Obama, Rahm Emanuel's playbook. They took the crisis of COVID and then they changed election law not by changing law at the state legislature, they had secretaries of state and or governors simply by fiat change the law to say 'oh you can keep counting votes' when the law did say that. So, this election really was stolen in a way and it was stolen because people changed the law "

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Shortly after his appointment as Obama's Chief of Staff, former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel famously uttered the words "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste" during a corporate panel sponsored by the Wall Street Journal .

"What I mean by that is never allow a good crisis to go to waste when it's an opportunity to do things that you had never considered, or that you didn't think were possible," Emanuel would explain at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/_mzcbXi1Tkk

Trump Campaign Attorney, Jesse Binnall, would laid out similar accusations of voter fraud to those given by Senator Paul during the Wednesday Senate hearing.

See Binnall's opening statement below:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RpLAW-7FBPs

But, Senator Paul was not done, as Douglas Braff reports via SaraACarter.com , during today's Senate hearing examining irregularities during 2020 presidential election the Kentucky Republican claimed:

"The fraud happened. The election in many ways was stolen...And the only way it'll be fixed is by, in the future, reinforcing the laws."

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=false&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1339253599868694531&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fnever-want-crisis-go-waste-senator-rand-paul-accuses-states-using-covid-steal-election&siteScreenName=zerohedge&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=550px

"But I think [Kreb's] job was keeping the foreigners out of the election. It was the most secure election based on the security of the internet and technology, but he has never voiced an opinion [ ] on whether or not dead people voted -- I don't think he examined that," Paul said toward the end of his speaking time, then questioning if Krebs examined non-citizens' voting.

Many Republicans, in alleging that widespread election fraud occurred in the 2020 election, have often cited claims that a lot of dead people and non-citizens voted. The over 50 lawsuits challenging the results of the election in certain swing states alleging election fraud have overwhelmingly failed in the courts.

"So to say it was the safest election -- sure, I agree with your statement if you're referring to foreign intervention," Paul continued.

"But if you're saying it's the safest election based on no dead people voted, no non-citizens voted, no people broke the absentee [ballot] rules, I think that's false and I think that's what's upset a lot of people on our side is that they're taking your statement to mean 'Oh, there were no problems in the elections.'"

"I don't think you examined any of the problems that we've heard here," he added, "so really you're just referring to something differently, the way I look at it." ay_arrow 1


wee-weed up 6 hours ago (Edited)

Okay, Sen Rand Paul...

Now put your credibility where your mouth is...

And back up Mo Brooks on Jan 6th when he stands up to challenge the validity of the election.

This will call for congresscritters with balls enough to say, "This illegal voting that occurred threatens the Republic and will not stand!"

US Banana Republic 6 hours ago

Do you know why Biden is telling everyone to stay home from his inauguration (which will never be anyway)?

Because NOBODY would have come. With or without COVID being a factor.

Fraudly Dementia Boy who is supposedly the most popular Democrat in history according to the vote, never would have gotten more than 12 people to show up to see him sworn in,.

EightyEight Mike 6 hours ago remove link

"17 Intelligence Agencies confirmed that there was foreign interference in the presidential election."

Remember hearing that every day?

sgt_doom 5 hours ago remove link

Even Matt Taibbi debunked that bullcrap --- a couple of guys at the CIA, friends of the Clapper/Brannan bromance, who later transferred to the NSA, to prattle the same bullcrap!

https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-exclusive-dominion-voting-machines-ability-create-ballots/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-12-01/dominion-voting-systems-owner-sells-400-million-securities-china-linked-ubs-october

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1827586/000182758620000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

[ China (the CCP) owns UBS Securities Co LTD >> which owns Staple Street Capital >> which owns Dominion >> ergo, CCP owns Dominion --- this is the way it is done in int'l finance]

Doom Porn Star 6 hours ago (Edited)

Laws were NOT changed. The legal procedures for changing the voting laws were NOT followed.

The very laws about changing the election laws were not followed and thus laws were not changed.

For instance: in Pennsylvania the Legislature is the only authority that can change the state constitution and the laws governing elections within. The Legislature did NOT change the constitution of Pennsylvania.

Saying that laws were changed is not the same as actually going through the legal procedures required to change the laws and enacting new legally binding legislation.

Saying "We changed the laws."doesn't change anything no matter how many times you repeat the phrase.

They did NOT change the laws -which is why SCOTUS freaked out and refused to hear the case.

IF SCOTUS actually had been forced to admit that the laws were not actually changed , despite the repeated insistent rhetoric that they had been changed, Trump would easily have won the Electoral College.

PGR88 6 hours ago

Let's look at California

This year, due to "COVID-19," California mailed out 25 million ballots to everyone on voter rolls. Remember also, their DMV automatically registers everyone to vote - including illegals, who are given drivers licenses. Mail-in-voting in CA has been a trend, but now Newsom wants this to be permanent.

There are no checks on non-citizens voting.

Voter rolls have not been purged of people who left the State or who changed addresses

In November 2020, approx, 7 million ballots were returned. Normally, in some districts, up to 10% of mail-in ballots may be rejected for problems. This year, due to the vast numbers, less than 0.01% were rejected.

It is absolutely impossible for state election workers to check voter rolls, signatures, addresses on 7 million ballots - so in effect, NO checks occur

California also allows "ballot harvesters." Any organized group my collect ballots from Voters, and turn them in. Some activist groups are even funded by the state to "harvest" ballots. That means political actors are collecting ballots, completely outside of any verification or chain-of-possession steps.

I dare anyone to tell me such a system is not full of manipulation and fraud

NoBigDeal 6 hours ago remove link

The GOP have to fight this in the court of public opinion because no court judge is prepared to listen to the case. They accuse them of telling lies without looking at the evidence. A cynical Catch 22 position.

As the administrators of justice this is a frightening heads up for anyone who thought there was any integrity and fairness in the legal system.

It's all bribes now..

Nature_Boy_Wooooo 5 hours ago (Edited)

Imagine sitting in court for tax fraud and the prosecutor saying........ "we gotta make sure this doesn't happen in the future.".....but you get to walk and keep the money you stole.

Onthebeach6 6 hours ago remove link

The Deep State actors are still trying to steal it by claiming no CCP interference in the election.

The report on foreign interference in the US election is due for release on Friday (18 th ) afternoon. This will be 45 days after it was requested by the President. It may be delayed.

The report is being prepared by the DNI (Department of National Intelligence) which is an umbrella organization over 16 intelligence agencies.

There is currently a massive ongoing fight between agencies in respect of those who wish to include the evidence of Chinese CCP involvement and those who wish to cover this up and blame Russia.

Director Ratcliffe of the DNI wants the CCP involvement included in the report and has stated that he will not sign the report unless this detailed CCP information is included.

It is important to understand that there is both evidence of CCP helping to fix the election and ongoing CCP pressure to ensure that their asset Biden is sworn in as President.

It is clear that CCP and deep state assets as well as the DNC and big tech worked together to steal the election and remove Trump in support of a globalist agenda that would enrich a small minority whilst impoverishing most Americans.

WatchOutForThatTree 2 hours ago

Whether the "election" turned out the way you wanted or not, it's pretty damned obvious this bitch was rigged.

Can all the stupid trolls and mindless posters please go back into your caves? The quality(or lack thereof) of discourse here sucks nowadays...

Linguo 1 hour ago

Rigged ? Corporate money by the billions, voter suppression, two parties whose sole allegiance is to Wall Street deliberately excluding third and fourth parties and gerrymandering to name a few, contributes to the democratic process ? What planet do you live on ? This country has never been a democracy. If the election was rigged, why did the republicans do well with the exception of the racist war criminal who is personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of COVID-19 deaths, King BS the 1st ? Idiot.

wimvincken 3 hours ago remove link

It's unbelievable what happened in the US. Many countries have simple ID driven elections. You show your ID and vote. Simple.

And in case the country has a computers, that computer can check if you're a citizen and if you already have voted in almost real-time. Simple.

I didn't know that the US doesn't have computers. Who would have thought that? /sarc

Sorry, but the incompetence is there running amok. Strategy is not one of the strongest thing there, because they could predict something like this to happen beforehand. The way how the Americans vote is simply asking for trouble like this. Now I'm curious if they want to fix it. I don't think so.

Soloamber 3 hours ago

The winner of the USA elections is now who cheats best .

The Democrats did nothing for four years except the fraud impeachment and the coordinated effort to steal the election . It was their only chance with Dementia man .

Pdunne 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Elections are won or lost these days with influence and money.

It is time to go back to the days when only individuals can donate to a campaign, not more corporate money or dark funds for PAC's.

Candidates will always pander to the money and if it was coming from the people maybe the people would get a fairer government. play_arrow

ronin12 PREMIUM 4 hours ago remove link

It's super fantastic to hear Rand Paul speak the truth.

So wtf is he actually going to DO about it?

Soloamber 3 hours ago remove link

Three full years of MSM Russia , Russia started by the Clinton's , CIA , Obama and the

biggest dip **** to run the FBI .

Mass election fraud ....cheating Trump out of an obvious win . NOTHING .

Move on because the gang rapists say so .

Voters one access to democracy stolen by the corrupt Democrat Party , negated by an algorithm, dead voters

, vote harvesting, billionaire globalist determined to destroy the USA and Chinese money .

Then people like sleeve bag Schumer unilaterally trying to bribe students with their own credit card .

Biden was right dark days .

Babadook 4 hours ago remove link

Gullible. That is the only word that describes the fantasy of faith in using electronic voting machines. Pen, paper & observers work perfectly well in other developed countries.

Don Storm 4 hours ago

Like someone posted earlier on ZH:

" In 2020 California mailed out 25 million ballots to everyone on voter rolls. Remember, the DMV automatically registers everyone to vote including illegals, who are given drivers licenses. Mail-in-voting in CA has been a trend, but now Newsom wants this to be permanent.

There are no checks on non-citizens voting. Voter rolls have not been purged of people who left the State or who changed addresses.

In 2020, approx. 7 million ballots were returned. Normally, up to 5% of mail-in ballots may be rejected for problems. This year, due to the vast numbers less than 0.01% were rejected.

It is absolutely impossible for state election workers to check voter rolls, signatures, addresses on 7 million ballots. So, NO checks occured whatsoever.

California allows "ballot harvesters." Any organized group may collect ballots from voters and turn them in. In fact, some activist groups are even funded by the state to "harvest" ballots.

I DARE anyone to show that such a system is NOT subject to total abuse and fraud on a massive scale. "

Here we have our answer, and California isn't the only state that allowed for such a weak mail-in ballot system.

Perhaps even more disturbing, why were mail-in ballots allowed on such a massive scale to begin with? And, we are not even talking about Dominion and other crap that took place.

Bjorn2bebad PREMIUM 4 hours ago

I live in Japan and they sent me a ballot - to Tokyo! I have not lived in CA for 8 years!!!

Nullifytodefy1835 6 hours ago remove link

Do you think that signature verification, the very thing that was touted, as being the very thing, that makes voting by mail safe, secure and fraud free, was thrown out the window for this election. Literally, the PA SOS told the election staff that ballots cannot be excluded because of signature mismatch, along with a host of other "irregularities" that would have the ballots, like the 26,000 that were tossed during the primary, excluded from being legal ballots that count. It concerns me that, the talking heads parrot the signature verification talking point everywhere you look, knowing that they had no plan on ever doing such. It really smacks of impropriety and corruption, if you only look at that, and that alone. When you then take account of the other issues, it looks like a stolen election. I am certainly not a Trump supporter, did not vote for him, but I have had an issue with election fraud for many years, as I have personally known of a migrant advocacy group that would bus the non citizens to the polling places and they would vote. I reported this many times, still it continued. Still it continues. When the only "proof" of citizenship you must provide, is a check in a box that you, "attest under penalty of perjury" that you are a citizen, blah, blah, blah, there is bound to be those that take advantage of the lack of oversight. Wherever there is an opportunity, a criminal, fraudster or corrupt actor, will take advantage, to the fullest extent possible. Human nature.

[Dec 17, 2020] Election integrity watchdog to sue Facebook's Zuckerberg for using 'dark money' to fund 'massive' fraud -- RT USA News

Dec 17, 2020 | www.rt.com

Mark Zuckerberg poured cash into an "ecosystem" that caused widespread fraud in the 2020 presidential contest, election integrity watchdog the Amistad Project has alleged. The group will file suit against the Facebook CEO.

The lawsuit, based on a report authored by the organization, will claim that Zuckerberg used $500 million of "dark money" to unlawfully tip the scales in battleground states that Democrat Joe Biden won by narrow margins, said Mark Serrano, a Trump 2020 campaign adviser who runs a communications firm that handles media relations for the Amistad Project. The lawsuit is expected to be filed by today in the District Court for the District of Columbia and will cover alleged election irregularities that took place in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, and Georgia.

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According to Serrano, the legal complaint takes aim at "the ecosystem" that caused "fraud on a massive level to take place" during the 2020 contest. He accused Zuckerberg of using his vast financial resources and influence to undermine the presidential election in the months leading up to, and continuing after, November 3.

A billionaire, Mark Zuckerberg, was allowed in the counting room because he funded it, and the American people were kicked out.

The lawsuit announcement coincided with the release of a report by the Amistad Project which outlines how Zuckerberg allegedly used private funding to "improperly" influence the election outcome.

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Amistad Project director Phill Kline said during a press conference on Wednesday that Zuckerberg funneled huge amounts of money into charities and nonprofits that lobbied officials and carried out other partisan activities that impacted the 2020 results.

"He paid for election judges, purchased drop boxes, contrary to state laws," Kline said, adding that Zuckerberg's money "purchased machines – Dominion and otherwise – and Zuckerberg's funding was contributed to Secretaries of State."

This injection of hundreds of millions of dollars into the election by Zuckerberg and others "violated state election laws and resulted in an unequal distribution of funding that deprived voters of both due process and equal protection," according to a press release issued by the Amistad Project.

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The group, part of conservative constitutional litigation organization the Thomas More Society, has been involved in several lawsuits alleging voter fraud and irregularities in the 2020 contest. They filed a motion in support of the unsuccessful lawsuit brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton in the Supreme Court, which accused four battleground states – Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin – of violating election laws. The Supreme Court rejected the suit, citing a "lack of standing."

Joe Biden was declared president-elect by the Electoral College on Monday, but US President Donald Trump and his allies continue to argue that the Democrats' victory is illegitimate due to large-scale fraud.

ALSO ON RT.COM Court-ordered audit concludes Dominion voting machines were intentionally designed to 'create systemic fraud' in Michigan

Ernie_Ross 1 hour ago 17 Dec, 2020 04:01 AM

Let me guess, Zuckerberg will say, "I have no knowledge of..." in repeat throughout the court proceedings and will go scot-free. The magic of that prefix cannot be overstated.
Thomas74 1 hour ago 17 Dec, 2020 04:33 AM
Zuckerberg is only the frontman for state surveillance.
VoJo 2 hours ago 17 Dec, 2020 03:53 AM
Mr. Z couldn't put this operation together - to be generous, he is clueless in so many ways. The brain and the man behind the curtain is, as one could have expected a Brit, Sir Nicholas William Peter Clegg (born 7 January 1967) is a British media executive and former politician who has been Vice-President for Global Affairs and Communications at Facebook since 2018, having previously served as Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 2010 to 2015.
uncle_Alex 1 hour ago 17 Dec, 2020 04:27 AM
SCOTUS legalized in 2010, Hodges v FEC, the anonymous funding of politics, so it can be bought. Not by Main Street, but by Wall Street, the deep-state swamp plutocracy. That's law! As Plato said, democracy degenerates thru oligarchy to tyranny.
perikleous 1 hour ago 17 Dec, 2020 04:50 AM
Please put your smart devices aside, use a dumbphone, for emergencies only, use your computer for important issues/knowledge and stop living on SM and all these ideas fail! Who will invest/advertise on a site without users? If you give up your means of being "the product" it all ends because they will go bankrupt! These globalist creatures rely on your dependence on their product! If you do not participate then the game is over!

[Dec 17, 2020] A strong argument against voter fraud in 2020 elections

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... I will also state that in "real" democracies, rigging the vote count is a rarity--it is far more effective just to rig the candidates so it doesn't matter if Tweedledee or Tweedledum gets more votes. ..."
Dec 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

TH , Dec 16 2020 17:06 utc | 128

I see two possibilities:

1) Biden got more votes
2) The intelligence agencies rigged the vote count via fraud

In the prior case, Biden will clearly be president. In the latter, Biden will also be president because the agencies' authority is absolute.

I will also state that in "real" democracies, rigging the vote count is a rarity--it is far more effective just to rig the candidates so it doesn't matter if Tweedledee or Tweedledum gets more votes.

[Dec 17, 2020] Watch Live- Senate Holds Hearing On 2020 Election Irregularities

Actually Senator Johnson was not bad and up to the point. He does not understand computer internals to dig in Dominium problem though. omputer based election machinery is evil and it does not depend on whom produce it. It is simply evil.
Krebs proved again that is a regular self-important mediocre lawyer, with very limited background on computer science. What is funny is how Dem senators became chameleons and after promoting Russiagate completely revered themselves.
In other word Russiagate came back and had bitten Dem senators in the back. The fact that they are unwilling to admit that this time it is not Biden vs Trump: it is about deep corruption of the election process makes them just political clown.
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

On Wednesday, the Senate Homeland Security & Govt. Affairs Committee is holding hearings on irregularities in the 2020 election. Witnesses will include Ken Star and former DHS head of cybersecurity Chris Krebs, who was fired by President Trump after he said the 2020 election was the "most secure in American history."

Watch Live:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RpLAW-7FBPs?controls=0

On Tuesday, Committee Chairman Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) told Sinclair that the result of the presidential election is "inevitable," but said that today's hearing has value so long after the election because "you look ahead by looking back."

"You actually need to take a look at, you know, what the allegations have been, what irregularities were, try and find out explanations to explain them or, if there really are problems, enact laws, change procedures," said Johnson.

In other words, don't expect any bombshells. In fact, it's more than likely part of an effort to clean up 'loose ends' and dispel 'fringe conspiracy theories.'

"You actually need to take a look at, you know, what the allegations have been, what irregularities were, try and find out explanations to explain them or, if there really are problems, enact laws, change procedures," said Johnson.

In other words, don't expect any bombshells. In fact, it's more than likely part of an effort to clean up 'loose ends' and dispel 'fringe conspiracy theories.'

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CallingDrFraudschi 8 hours ago remove link

Yeah, OK. Keep your head buried in the sand and maybe find some better sources of information.

https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20423772-antrim-county-forensics-report

The fraud is real you twit.

chubbar 10 hours ago (Edited)

BREAKING NEWS! Michael Patrick Leahy from GA just dropped a bombshell.

The emergency order that was cooked up by the SOS of GA to allow for Mail in balloting, expired BEFORE THE ELECTION. Emergency orders expire 120 days after being passed, by GA law. That order was passed July 1st which means it expired Oct 28th, 5 days before the election! OOPS!

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chubbar 10 hours ago remove link

It was on the "War Room". You can go to Youtube, cue up the current show that is on RIGHT NOW, and fast forward until you see Leahy speaking, then listen to him. fukit, I did it for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZBRzDPD_no

What do you mean PREMIUM 10 hours ago

Oh great, a Senate hearing! I bet there's gonna be some serious action now! Folks are gonna be quaking in their boots! These hearings ALWAYS lead to serious consequences!

tedstr 10 hours ago

The chickens are coming home to roost. This whole thing is beginning to wreak of arrogance and hubris gone wrong. Private equity bankers, software engineers, corrupt politicians all working to rig it thinking they were just too smart, and the deplorables would never figure it out. I suspect the DNI is working behind the scenes along with many others to reveal it all. the courts won't hear it but the politicians will start scrambling to distance themselves and be on the right side as it all come down. Joe is a stooge. this is why he's the guy. the smart ones knew the game and steered clear. The Clintons are poison.

PGR88 10 hours ago (Edited)

America's election system isn't "irregular" - its frcking corrupt

Let's look at California

This year, due to COVID-19, California mailed out 25 million ballots to everyone on voter rolls. Remember, the DMV automatically registers everyone to vote - including illegals, who are given drivers licenses. Mail-in-voting in CA has been a trend, but now Newsom wants this to be permanent.

There are no checks on non-citizens voting. Voter rolls have not been purged of people who left the State or who changed addresses

In 2020, approx, 7 million ballots were returned. Normally, up to 5% of mail-in ballots may be rejected for problems. This year, due to the vast numbers, less than 0.01% were rejected.

It is absolutely impossible for state election workers to check voter rolls, signatures, addresses on 7 million ballots - so in effect, NO checks occur

California allows "ballot harvesters." Any organized group my collect ballots from Voters, and turn them in. Some activist groups are even funded by the state to "harvest" ballots.

I DARE anyone tell me such a system is not subject to total manipulation and corruption.

Freddie 10 hours ago

CA, OR and WA were all taken over via vote fraud. OR was one of the first with mail in voting.

Max21c 9 hours ago

90% reported turnout in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. Election counting stopped in the dead of night and restarted with new "numbers" in wee hours of the morning. Poll watchers not allowed to observe election counting processes. Voting machines not allowed to be inspected in a timely manner. Ballots not allow to be inspected. Ballots disappeared. Ballots appeared out of nowhere. And every other trick in the book.

Mzhen 9 hours ago remove link

Krebs is in the middle of a job interview with liberals in Silicon Valley.

jammyjo 9 hours ago

Managers are always clueless about what's really going on He'll do well.

Urban Roman 9 hours ago

Uhh, yeah. Wasn't he just fired, for general incompetence/malfeasance?

He's just repeating the ds mantra 'no fraud, nothing to see here' -- where are the Senators asking him how votes that have already been counted were subtracted from one column and added to another? Or how batches of hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots came in 98% for one candidate (rivaling the polling for Idi Amin or Kim Jong Un or Pol Pot) ? How does Krebs account for the fact that all the 'irregularities' were in favor of Hiden Biden?

And that's about all I can watch.

SillyWabbits 9 hours ago

There was no fraud.

It was outright theift.

Fireman 10 hours ago (Edited)

The good news is Slumville is already burning and nothing in the world can stop it.

Karma comes home to bite the wobblies on their fat a$$e$ and as the welfare warfare abomination implodes the world will indeed applaud.

It is too late to turn the tide. Donald Trump's attempt to abandon the American Empire and refocus the country's efforts on its domestic prosperity has been sabotaged by the elites acquired to the puritanical ideology of the "Pilgrim Fathers". As a result, the moment so feared by Richard Nixon and his election adviser Kevin Philipps has arrived: the United States is on the brink of secession and civil war.

What I am writing is not a fantasy, but the analysis of many observers in the United States and around the world. For example, the Wisconsin Supreme Court has just declared Donald Trump's election fraud appeal inadmissible, not on legal grounds, but because "it would open Pandora's box.

In fact, contrary to the misrepresentation of events that dominates the international press, either the outgoing president's appeals are judged in law and he is obviously right, or they are judged in politics and proving him right will provoke civil war. But the conflict is already too far advanced. Judging him politically in defiance of the law will also provoke civil war.

We must stop interpreting the presidential election as a rivalry between Democrats and Republicans, whereas Donald Trump has never claimed to be a member of the Republican Party, which he stormed during his 2016 campaign. He is not an enlightened man, but a successor to President Andrew Jackson (1829-37). Yes, ideologically, the latter prefigured the "Southerners," the "Confederates.

https://www.voltairenet.org/article211845.html

chunga 10 hours ago remove link

When Moribund Mitch congratulated Catatonic Joe yesterday I bet there were people in their cars on their way to the GA run-off who turned around and went home, for good.

Freddie 10 hours ago

Mitch has taken money from Dominion and killed a vote in Senate on fixing vote fraud. The Turtle needs to be arrested. Who else took money from Dominion? Who else is tight with Communist China in the Senate? We know Feinstein is. Arrest them.

Adino 8 hours ago

On Tuesday, Committee Chairman Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) told Sinclair that the result of the presidential election is "inevitable,"

Horse apples.

An over the top fraudulent election DOES NOT result in the 'inevitable' results standing.

I tell you what is inevitable, CW2.

And idiots like this are responsible for the lot of it.

Go to hell, all of you swampies.

jammyjo 9 hours ago

Dem Senators cringeworthy to watch with their leading statements and questions. "Why are you lying?"

jammyjo 9 hours ago

Dems same circular arguments of "no fraud" because they don't want to acknowledge it. They keep misrepresenting the court decisions - mostly courts are afraid to take on the cases rather than making a finding of "no fraud". Should be simple enough to subpoena Ruby and Jones in GA to see what they have to say.

glenlloyd 9 hours ago

Sen Carper can't even compose a coherent sentence, he's just regurgitating words created by his paid demonrat underlings.

No one cares about your mask that represents your alma mater.

Francis Marximus 11 hours ago remove link

Good Powell interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnx8jj3eGu0

limpinalien 11 hours ago (Edited)

This is too much. There is planning that's going on in Israel on how we will bomb Iran into the stone ages. If the American's can't even count votes and decide who runs the country, how the h311 is this planning going to be possible? You cattl3 need to sort this out asap. One way or the other.

SonOfSam 10 hours ago

The #FRAUD was designed so that Murica could go back to dropping bombs on some more brown people. Because yeah, THAT will

A) Fix the riot damage

B) Fix the lockdown damage

C) Reopen America

D) Let people get back to work, so they don't lose their homes and have their families break up

Every blood slavering neo con infecting this country, along with the brain dead Dummycrats who helped get them back in, can all get rear orifice cancer and slowly expire in yuuuuge amounts of blood coughing pain

PS They will NEVER get my sons. They can send their own out to these stoooooopid useless endless wars

Iron Lady 9 hours ago remove link

"Rumor control" "Election management systems"

Clearly, Krebs thought Orwell was instructional.

Gerrilea 9 hours ago remove link

What a joke, the Rethugs (along with the Demoncrats) passed HAVA and mandating that our election systems be "updated" AND then they benefited from the fraud for over a decade. They aren't gonna do crap except create a report that says, "All's good, nothing to see here, move along!"

Max21c 9 hours ago

Vichy elites of Washington have to continue the farce and pretend the fraudulent election is legitimate and that there has been no coup d'etat whereby the candidate that actually won the election was forced out of office and a usurper imposed & installed as the new ruler by the Washington establishment.

UselessEater 10 hours ago (Edited) remove link

The Democrat party has collapsed like the banking system, both being held together temporarily by chewing gum. The world knows this election is the most corrupt in history on earth. The covid scam is failing. Too many have woken up to the con and protests around the world increasing. So...

Now we must await the 'cyber attack' False Flag, to be blamed on China and Russia to instigate WWIII from which will arise, out of the ashes, the Phoenix World Order of tyranny.

All created and controlled by the international bankers out of the Corporation of the City of London (which is an independent central-bank/BIS world empire).

icu410 8 hours ago

More political bull$hit that amounts to nothing. They know the system is corrupted and the election was stolen. After this crap show I will never vote again.

SillyWabbits 9 hours ago

America is a corrupt Oligarchy.

Obchelli 9 hours ago (Edited) remove link

KREBS you re disgusting POS

What a words "Democracy", "Sacred institution compromised"

People like you POS

Compromise Democracy traitors

misgivings 9 hours ago

Did I just hear Rand Paul give Krebs a pass on "the most secure election in history" because he was referring to foreign interference and not dead people voting??? What about Dominion machines being connected to the internet and sending packets to Frankfurt Germany? Did that just evaporate into the ether?

Redneck Makin-tosh 9 hours ago

He also sounded as though he was prepared to let the result stand so long as the cheating was addressed for future elections - which could tie in to your observation.

Sick Monkey 10 hours ago remove link

Watching it now and it is obvious to anyone that this is just another display of useless politicians blurting out the same thing Biden said on stage in his last appearance.

Nothing is going to happen with this useless group of criminals.

Iron Lady 7 hours ago remove link

Today I learned that the US has its very own taxpayer funded Pravda (other than NPR) -

#PROTECT2020 RUMOR VS. REALITY

Mis- and disinformation can undermine public confidence in the electoral process, as well as in our democracy. Elections are administered by state and local officials who implement numerous safeguards to protect the security of your vote pursuant to various state and federal laws and processes. This resource is designed to debunk common misinformation and disinformation narratives and themes that relate broadly to the security of election infrastructure and related processes. It is not intended to address jurisdiction-specific claims. Instead, this resource addresses election security rumors by describing common and generally applicable protective processes, security measures, and legal requirements designed to protect against or detect large-scale security issues related to election infrastructure and processes.

https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol

Isn't it nice to see your tax dollars at work?

fanbeav 8 hours ago

Some RINO republicans acting like "we must fix this GOING FORWARD". Heck no. No election ripe with fraud that was obviously rigged should ever stand!

Mzhen 9 hours ago remove link

Krebs is primarily is lisp-talking lawyer. It's well known that lawyers can't do math.

known unknown 10 hours ago remove link

Ken Starr is a Zionist operative.

Obchelli 8 hours ago (Edited)

So KREBS is changing Narrative and saying we should move on and people who threaten must be punished - first of all WHERE is the proof you were threatened?

THERE IS NO PROOF you were threatened - do you like this?

Xena fobe 8 hours ago remove link

RINOs are laughing at their constituents. They know most of them are no info voters and the rest can be overcome via Diminion and a corrupt DOJ.

It's up to us to rid ourselves of these globalists. Start with recalls of governors.

LEEPERMAX 8 hours ago

INVESTIGATIVE DOCUMENTARY: 2020 Election: Who's Stealing America?

Epoch Times

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Merica101 10 hours ago

Chris Krebs is digging a hole for himself...

teolawki 10 hours ago

Krebs is a joke. He's a lawyer, not a cybersecurity specialist.

Norseman_Aura 10 hours ago (Edited)

tucker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BspHzH6RRxo

2:31

Democrycy 11 hours ago

Meanwhile over 600 billionaires gained a record $1 trillion in wealth and more people lost jobs and small businesses than at any point in almost 100 years. Let that sink in. I believe this is the tipping point.

Al Capone 11 hours ago

Warren Commission 2.0

BugMan 7 hours ago remove link

Of his nearly half-billion-dollar sum, $350 million was funneled to the Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL), which "used the money to illegally inflate turnout in key Democratic swing states as part of this effort."As previously reported on by The National Pulse, the group carried out an "unequal distribution of funding that favored Democratic precincts."

99.4 percent of Zuckerberg's grants went to Democrat-heavy districts.

"The injection of private funding into county and municipal elections circumvented State and Federal appropriations processes, violated protocols in HAVA state implementation plans , and resulted in inaccurate reporting under HAVA 254(a)(5)," the Amistad Project

REPORT: Zuckerberg Spent Half a Billion Dollars Coercing States To Adopt Pro-Dem Turnout Measures (thenationalpulse.com)

Im4truth4all 7 hours ago

One of the great, if not the greatest expert in the fields of cyber security and computer fraud, has done sophisticated technical work for the C.I.A., N.S.A. and F.B.I has stated under oath as an expert witness that there was massive computer fraud in the 2020 election to elect Joe Biden. His name is Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia.

Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia exposed a massive fraud by an individual for millions of dollars against American intelligence and the military.

Even the New York Times which I consider to be a leftwing rag sheet wrote an article singing his accolades.

I will quote you just 2 of 17 major paragraphs from a declaration signed under oath by Dr. Keshavarz-Nia:

"I have a Bachelor's degree in Electrical and Computer Engineering and a Master's degree in Electronics and Computer Engineering from George Mason University, a Ph.D. degree in Management of Engineering and Technology from CalSouthern University and a Doctoral (Ed.D) degree in Education from George Washington University. I have advanced training from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), DHS office of Intelligence & Analysis (I&A) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

3. I am employed by a large defense contractor as a chief cyber security engineer and a subject-matter expert in cyber security. During my career, I have conducted security assessment, data analysis and security counterintelligence, and forensics investigations on hundreds of systems. My experience spans 35 years performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber-attack pattern analysis, and security counterintelligence linked to FIS operators, including China, Iran, North Korea, and Russia. I have worked as a consultant and subject-matter expert supporting the Department of Defense, FBI and US Intelligence Community (USIC) agencies such as the DIA, CIA, NSA, NGA, and the DHS I&A supporting counterintelligence, including supporting law enforcement investigations.

Apeon 7 hours ago remove link

Be assured that since the Senate is discussing it....NOTHING will happen.

slickrock 11 hours ago remove link

How many hearings have they held? Has anything been done with the corruption and disease that is rotting this country? Has the rule of law been restored? They talk and talk and make themselves feel better but are powerless to do anything about what has happened to this country. The words of Franklin are about to come true, we have nearly lost the ability to keep our Republic.

chunga 11 hours ago

This has been going on since I got out of high school. Not a single one of these punks asked to see the infamous "crowdstrike report".

[Dec 17, 2020] Electoral Fraud in Black and White by Chanda Chisala

Dec 17, 2020 | www.unz.com

Did the Democrats rig the 2020 presidential election? Any objective person should at least have some nagging suspicions of possible malfeasance, especially when one listens to the testimonies of the many poll watchers placed in battleground locations: the coincidental events that necessitated conveniently long counting pauses and brazen efforts to restrict their ability to "watch." An article in the Spectator, written by a professional pollster, makes a strong case for some healthy skepticism of Biden's win. The more important question, of course, is who did it? And even more curious, how?

In one of his usual gaffe-laden speeches on the campaign trail, Joe Biden may have given the most Freudian of his many slips of the tongue in his career when he said: "We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." As the many stories of fraud allegations keep unfolding, it is incredible how true Biden's statement might turn out to be: the operation to steal the US elections were indeed possibly the most extensive and inclusive operation the Democrats have achieved, involving just about all minority groups in this mother of all electoral schemes.

One of the reasons many people find it hard to believe that you can have so many people involved in this scheme is that it would be difficult to issue instructions to all those people without some record of communications being leaked. But they are looking at this the wrong way: you don't have to issue any instructions to the vast majority of the people you hire in your ballot harvesting schemes etc. You just need to make sure that you have enough people who believe that Trump is the Second Coming of Hitler -- and that this time he has come for the blacks, the Asians, Arabs, Latinos and yes, to also finish off the Jews. They only need to be told to do " whatever it takes " [ 'Whatever it takes': how black women fought to mobilize America's voters. The Guardian, November 12, 2020 ].

I am not yet convinced that the Dominion System actually played a direct role in rigging votes (at best, it may have been used for real-time internal updates to enable swift action where more ballots were needed), but if it did, we can say that that was the main role of whites in this impressively diverse operation. I would imagine that in such a case, they may have added votes to Biden in places where Trump still won, to avoid suspicion; but that is still not clear. What seems to be much more conspicuous is the role that black operatives played: the job of good old ballot box stuffing and (especially) well-organized illicit ballot harvesting.

For taking such a big risk, the black community will need a few more favors than ordinarily granted to them. The most senior black Congressman, Jim Clyburn, has already started making demands for Biden to start paying up. After Biden announced his economic team appointments, with virtually no white person on it and signalling what is to come, the different minority groups immediately demanded more diversity from him!

This amused even the reporters of Politico, who opened their article with some veiled sarcasm: "The faces of the economic team President-elect Joe Biden unveiled publicly Tuesday included an African American woman, a man born in Nigeria, an Indian American woman and just one white man. The response from Asian American, Black and Latino Democrats: It's not enough." [incidentally, the token white man and woman on his economic team – Janet Yellen and Jared Bernstein – are both Jewish].

The strongest demands by far are coming from the black community, and they have already scored the first black Defense Secretary in US history. After all, if blacks can pull off the biggest electoral heist in the history of the world, then maybe they should be in charge of overseeing the nation's military strategy!

But how plausible is that story? Could blacks really have played the biggest and most organized role in Biden's stolen election? It sounds too much like the stuff of Hollywood.

In 2007, a movie based on the true life story of Frank Lucas, a black gangster in 1960s and 70s New York who ended up displacing the powerful white drug lords at the top of the business, captured the imagination of America. According to the movie (and Frank Lucas' Wikipedia page ), the DEA detectives wasted many years trying to figure out who had started supplying a specially lethal but unbelievably cheap drug called 'Blue Magic' and consequently dominating the drug business in New York (before expanding to other parts of the country). They had failed to solve the mystery because they kept looking at the usual suspects: the infamous Italian mafia. It did not cross their minds that a once-poor black family was the one pulling off a level of organized drug crime that they had never seen before.

Lucas, who usually dressed more professionally than most gangsters in order to elude suspicion from authorities, kept getting wealthier and wealthier as these officers kept chasing the wrong leads. Even when they did finally identify him as the real drug lord, their investigators could not figure out how he was importing this drug without being traced by border security agents at any American ports of entry; they believed it was practically impossible for all their detection systems to fail.

But the best criminals are innovators by definition. Using a close trusted network of black Americans in the US army, Lucas had devised a way of transporting the drugs from Vietnam through the coffins of deceased servicemen that were regularly repatriated to American soil. In short, the US government did not know that they were the ones transporting the drugs of one of the biggest criminals they were investigating!

In 2020, the FBI reported that wide scale electoral fraud, enough to shift a general election, is practically impossible. They could not imagine any method by which this can be accomplished on a large scale without the systems put in place by the government detecting it easily, especially since it would have to involve a large network of people working together with a high level of trust.

Even for those who believe it happened, the biggest suspects have been either the sophisticated white criminals using cryptic software algorithms or, at worst, the Italian Mafia. Indeed, one of President Trump's lawyers tweeted out a story alleging that the Italian mafia had rigged Pennsylvania for Biden. The mafia profusely denied the story, giving some convincing arguments about their inability and unwillingness to pull off such a large, complex operation.

In fact, the only visible "Italian" in this whole drama seems to be the president's tenacious New York lawyer, who has the most experience to intuitively recognize the results of organized crime, as a former prosecutor who famously defeated organized crime networks in America's biggest city. But first he has to zero in on the 'who.'

TEXAS

The state of Texas provides the first clue on at least the social group that was primarily at the center of this massive operation.

The Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton (with the cooperation of the Secretary of State) has been extremely vigilant at fighting and preventing electoral fraud in the Lone Star State. Firstly, he forestalled any potential white fraud by rejecting the dodgy Dominion Voting Systems for use in Texas after experts expressed security and efficiency concerns. Secondly, the state also made huge strides in preventing large scale organized voter fraud by essentially banning "ballot harvesting" – the system of collecting and submitting ballots for another voter, after "helping" them to vote. It is astonishing that this is actually legal in many states, despite the strong protestations of many Republicans.

This doesn't mean that some criminals won't still try to rig elections in Texas, but this is where the serious AG comes in. In September 2020, AG Paxter announced the arrest and prosecution of a group of four that almost succeeded in rigging an election through organized ballot harvesting in the 2018 Democratic primary races. The way they did it can give us a clue on the main weaknesses exploited by such electoral criminals.

Taking advantage of a Texas law that allows disabled people to vote by mail, this group somehow registered a large number of able-bodied people as disabled, in some cases without their consent, so that they could have more mail-in ballots for their fraudulent scheme to work. Thus, whereas the FBI might assume that it's difficult to rig through mail-in ballots in a county with a relatively small number of disabled people, this group saw a loophole and innovatively found a way of expanding that segment of ballots.

The fact that they went through all that trouble to try to create mail-in ballots confirms that such ballots are the most valuable resource for these schemes, and those Democrats who defend the expansion of mail-in ballots must know exactly what they are doing.

Thus, it is only common sense that the mass shift to mail-in ballots that came on the pretext of the Coronavirus pandemic was an activation call for such electoral fraudsters everywhere to get to work immediately. It made their job so much easier since the government had just unknowingly done the hardest step in the process for them, as they did for Frank Lucas.

When I first saw the Texas fraud story, I was not expecting any racial pattern; I unconsciously assumed that it was at best a mixed-race operation. Until I saw the mug shots of the arrested fraudsters (the state is 74% white and only 12% black).

All of them were black!

This led me to start looking at the videos of all the election counting centers where there have been allegations of major process irregularities in battleground states from sworn testimonies of witnesses, including stories of new ballot boxes being dropped there in the middle of the night. The workers in those offices were almost always predominantly black too!

I had to ask myself again: is it really possible that black political operatives had pulled off the biggest electoral crime in American history? And if this is true, how could they have achieved what the political scientists, the FBI and even the Italian mafia claim is a practically impossible task?

Once again, my answer to the 'how' came from the good state of Texas. The state (this time through private investigators) managed to expose another much bigger voter fraud operation before it could complete its project, this time targeting the presidential election itself, and allegedly involving enough ballots (700 thousand) to decisively turn the great conservative state blue. You would think that such a big story would have made it to CNN and the front pages of the New York Times since some Democrat officials were implicated, but it was only reported locally in Texas and other red states:

The investigators -- a former FBI agent and former police officer -- claim that Biden's Texas Political Director Dallas Jones and his cohorts have been "hoarding mail-in and absentee ballots" and ordering operatives to fill them out for people in Harris County illegally, including dead people, homeless people, and nursing home residents in the 2020 presidential election.

A part of the sworn affidavit from the investigators lays down the scheme:

" Based on interviews, review of documents, and other information, I have identified the individuals in charge of the ballot harvesting scheme. These individuals includes political consultant Dallas Jones who was recently hired by the Joe Biden for President campaign to oversee their Harris County initiative. District 13 Texas State Senator Borris Miles, who is the handler of Mr. Jones, political consultant Gerald Womack, and Precinct 1 Harris County Commissioner Rodney Ellis. One of the companies these individuals are using as a front for this operation is AB Canvassing, although there are others that have been identified that we are investigating."

I have in my possession video-taped interviews of witnesses attesting to the aforementioned people having groups of people completing thousands of absentee and mail-in ballots, including completing ballots for deceased individuals; illegally going into nursing homes, with the complicity of the nursing home staff, and filling out and forging the signatures of nursing home residents; signing up homeless individuals to vote using the ballot harvester's address then completing the ballot and forging the homeless individual's signature.

This entire operation is being run by the elite politicians of the Democrat Party in Houston/Hams County.

When I found the photos of all the people mentioned in this damning affidavit, the hypothesis that blacks were the ones executing the groundwork for the 2020 fraud in the different battleground states was very nearly confirmed.

Dallas Jones Commissioner Rodney Ellis, source: Wikipedia State Senator Boris Miles, source: Wikipedia Denzel Washington as the impeccably-dressed innovative black gangster, Frank Lucas, in American Gangster.

When I looked a bit more into Jones, I discovered a few more interesting facts. Firstly, he used to be a "Regional Field Director" in the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP). This means that whatever electoral "skills" he has are well-known in the NAACP, and can be easily distributed to their wide network in different states on demand.

Secondly, I discovered that Dallas has even internationalized his electoral "consultancy." His elections consultancy company was hired to help an opposition party candidate to the highest position in Trinidad and Tobago named Keith Rowley in 2015. He won.

I was curious to know why Jones would want to help a Trinidadian win an election that has nothing to do with America (or even the NAACP). Did he share a similar economic ideology with the candidate? Or does Jones perhaps have his ancestral roots in this island?

The answer, I soon realized, is simpler than that.

Rowley's People's National Movement party represents the black population of Trinidad and Tobago, while the major party he took out, the United National Congress, represents the South Asians (Indians) led by an Indian woman whose first name just happens to be 'Kamla.' Rowley needed all the help he could get from black American "consultants" because Indians are actually the largest ethnic population in Trinidad and Tobago. (In 2020, Rowley defended his Prime Minister position against Kamla.)

The description of Jones' role in that election that brought Rowley to power is instructive :

"Brought on by partner firm Vestige Strategies as part of a team of five consultants, Jones was tasked with designing and executing the comprehensive, nation-wide "Get Out The Vote" efforts for Dr. Rowley and the People's National Movement campaign."

" Get Out the Vote " is how a lot of these ballot harvesting schemes are euphemistically characterized. It is what Georgia politician Stacey Abrams calls her scheme that aggressively registers all kinds of unlikely voters to supposedly vote by mail with renewed enthusiasm.

What makes blacks more able to pull off such large-scale ballot harvesting operations is the ready supply of the one asset required for all organized crime: a large network of trust . I think groups like the Italian mafia and the Jewish mafia may have almost disappeared precisely because of a dwindling supply of people among them who still see themselves as surviving outside the mainstream American community that despises them while belonging to an ethnic "family" that values them. Blacks, on the other hand, still largely see themselves as part of such an outsider "family" that is expected to trust each other, as they collectively figure out how to survive that common enemy who has all the power and wants to "systemically" harm them with it. At least this is what they grow up hearing every day from schools, colleges, news media, music, uncles and even church leaders. (The black conservatives who somehow escape this lifelong programming are much more heroic than immigrant black conservatives who never really had to deal with the pervasive indoctrination).

This black family consciousness can be used not only politically (the family is expected to vote together for the same party, one that is at least led by servile whites), but even for other less legal collaborations, if necessary. When you truly believe that you are under some Hitlerian existential threat, it is actually rational to bend some rules to help your survival, especially if those rules are made by the same evil power that systemically seeks your destruction.

At the Michigan House hearings to consider the Trump campaign's case, one recent Indian immigrant who was one of the GOP poll watchers, witnessed this familial spirit in action. The black poll workers in the room thought she was a Democrat because she's from a dark-looking minority race, and they confidentially told her that "we have to get those m-fers out of here." According to her, they were referring to all the "white, male Republican" poll watchers, who were apparently insisting on monitoring everything going on (a.k.a doing their job). They successfully booted them out.

When the Trump campaign in Michigan sued for being denied access to properly watch what was going on at some important counting center in Detroit, their case was quickly dismissed by the judge. When they tried to sue to get access to surveillance videos of ballot box drops, which could also possibly prove their allegations of illegal ballot boxes brought in, the same judge denied them the access on some bizarre technicality. Ironically, the media kept mocking the Trump campaign for bringing allegations to court in the absence of strong evidence, without mentioning how their requests for access to the same evidence was being denied by the same courts!

Out of curiosity, I looked up this Michigan judge ( Cynthia Stephens ) whom I thought had a particularly hostile tone to Trump's plaintiffs.

Judge Cynthia Stephens

Stephens has been a leader in the Black Judges Association of Michigan, a life member of the Delta Sigma Theta sorority which was founded by "college-educated women dedicated to public service with an emphasis on programs that assist the African American community," etc.

In October 2020, a higher court reversed a revealing ruling that Stephens had given in another case. She had ruled that anyone should be allowed to submit someone else's ballot for them, despite state law clearly saying it is only family members that can do this (which at least makes the work of ballot harvest schemers a bit harder). The same higher court also reversed a ruling by Stephens that said late ballots should be counted in the 2020 general election even if they arrive two weeks late – which would have been another boon in the ballot fraudster's toolbox!

A judge who is a member of ethnocentric organizations is already a bad sign. If a white judge was a member of a sorority that "assists the white community," his objectivity would be questioned, especially in an election in which 'race' is at the center. Why should we assume that a black judge would be free of bias when she belongs to race-based groups and the election is about a man that is considered "one of the most racist presidents" in American history?

The Trump campaign should have moved heaven and hell to get those surveillance videos of ballot boxes being brought into these counting centers, instead of moving on to Hugo Chavez conspiracy theories. I'm also pretty sure William Barr could immediately get all those videos of security footage around every polling station if he really wanted to, but maybe I've just watched too much '24 .'

Black electoral fraudsters of course know that they can count on the media to help them fight against any pressure to fully audit black counties by simply flashing the race card as a shield when needed.

The Washington Post already sent an early warning shot by publishing a story entitled "Anger builds in Black community over Trump's claim of voter fraud in big cities." According to the Post, Trump checking for fraud in these areas is "prompting Black leaders, political analysts and historians to cry foul at what they described as tactics reminiscent of those used to suppress the voice of Black voters following the Civil War."

They don't quote any actual historian who would say something that radical. Instead, they quote a professor of African American studies, Carol Anderson. "It's a very narrow, slippery slope, from saying 'illegal votes' to 'illegal voters,'"she chides, "so this attack on Black voters is real."

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. An investigation of crime is obviously not an attack on anyone.

Trump's team is predictably now inured to the endless accusations of racism, so something more had to be done to stop them. On Saturday, November 21, a group of Detroit voters took the race card all the way to federal court, alleging "disenfranchisement of black voters" by the Trump campaign. Basically, a lawsuit to stop someone from checking if the law was followed.

Georgia, Georgia

If the state of Texas and its AG provide a blueprint for disciplined Republican warfare against black and white fraud, Georgia is the sad cautionary tale.

Georgia has had a very long unique relationship with voting machine vendors which looks quite corrupt. Because the mainstream media assumed that this corrupt intrusion into Georgia politics by voting machine companies was going to benefit Trump (and Russia) in 2020, they did some thorough investigation into it. Of course after the 2020 election suggested that the newest beneficiaries (if any) are Democrats, the same media has frantically rushed to defend the integrity of Georgian officials -- presenting them as honest and objective Republicans for standing up to Trump. Even the venerable Wall Street Journal has published an editorial from the CEO of Dominion. Any suggestions of malfeasance are now dismissed as "baseless."

Fortunately, we still have the investigative articles the same media did when they thought Georgia would rig for Republicans, as our basis.

A 2019 article by the New Yorker was merciless:

"In the past decade, Election Systems & Software (E.S. & S.), the largest manufacturer of voting machines in the country, has routinely wined and dined a select group of state-election brass, which the company called an "advisory board," offering them airfare on trips to places like Las Vegas and New York, upscale-hotel accommodations, and tickets to live events. Among the recipients of this largesse, according to an investigation by McClatchy published last year, was David Dove, the chief of staff to Georgia's then secretary of state, Brian Kemp ."[Kemp is now the governor.]

Also:

"Georgia turns out to be a prime example of how voting-system venders, in partnership with elected officials, can jeopardize the democratic process by influencing municipalities to buy proprietary, inscrutable voting devices that are infinitely less secure than paper-ballot systems that cost three times less."

The McClatchy investigative report , cited in the New Yorker article, makes a prediction from an expert interviewed for their story:

" the next foreign attack on U.S. voting machinery will likely be initially directed at an equipment vendor's server before migrating to county systems and voting sites, said Scott, co-founder of the Institute for Critical Infrastructure Protection.

He said the malware can poison vendors' update servers with a "decimalization feature" -- a program to manipulate the vote outcome as desired.

"Then you add a second layer to the exploit that geo-targets that malware to hit swing regions of swing states," Scott said. It embeds in the touch-screens and "carries through to the central (vote-counting) tabulator at the state level," before destroying itself upon final tabulation.

While Homeland Security officials have alerted the vendors about such a threat, Scott said, he's seen little effort by the manufacturers to build a defense.

In 2019, Dominion Systems received over 100 million dollars from the state of Georgia to supply 30,000 machines for the state's 7 million voters, to be rolled out in a few months: the biggest and most ambitious rollout of voting machines in the history of the United States.

Even if there was no direct corruption involving Georgia officials in this handsome contract, these officials -- the Governor, the Secretary of State and even their suspiciously vocal elections implementation manager, Gabriel Sterling -- would still not want the weaknesses of the system to be exposed because it would also effectively end their careers since everyone, including election security experts and managers in other Secretary of State offices, had warned them about this reckless project.

When the state held its presidential primaries in June 2020 with this new Dominion system, it turned out to be one big mess, just as everyone had warned. It is a miracle that these officials actually survived the chaos from that election.

It is worth quoting large portions of an article from PBS that sums up what Georgia went through with Dominion software in that catastrophic presidential primary election of 2020:

"Faulty software or poorly calibrated vote-tabulation scanners used to count mailed-in ballots in this week's chaotic Georgia primary may have prevented thousands of votes from being counted, election officials and voting integrity activists say

"The fact that it is in multiple counties tells me that it's probably systemic," Richard DeMillo, a Georgia Tech computer scientist who has testified for the plaintiffs, because identical scanners and software were used to count all absentee ballots across the state. DeMillo said the only way to know for sure is through audits.

A top Georgia voting official, voting implementation manager Gabriel Sterling, said Friday that he had seen no evidence yet of the issue and found it difficult to believe the reports were "an active description of what is happening on the ground."

"These are activists who have an ax to grind," he said.

In post-election reviews, bipartisan panels in all four counties detected unregistered votes while examining ballot images flagged by the vote-tallying scanner's software for anomalies.

In Morgan County, Republican-dominated and just southeast of Atlanta, panelists discovered at least 20 votes on scanned ballot images that the program had not recorded, said Jeanne Dufort, a Democrat on the panel. She said it appeared the votes did not register because ovals that were supposed to be filled in were instead checked or marked with X's.

All three panelists agreed to add the unregistered votes to the electronic tally, said Dufort. But on Thursday, the county elections board voted 3-2 not to audit the rest of the roughly 3,000 absentee ballots

In Clarke County, vote review panelist Adam Shirley estimated at least 30 ballots out of about 300 flagged for anomalies had votes that "the system had not marked at all, that had not processed at all."

Shirley, a Democrat, recommended a review of all 15,000 absentee ballots.

In an email Friday to fellow board members, county election board chair Jesse Evans said "it's not just possible but probable that a ballot whose voter had clearly but not completely marked their vote would not have its votes counted by the software."

In an email to Evans, Shirley said he found it disturbing that the software did not flag the uncounted votes. "We only noticed them by sheer luck as we were adjudicating other, flagged contests on ballots."

In DeKalb County, review panel member Elizabeth Burns estimated finding between 20-50 uncounted votes on 530 flagged ballots and said her team had so far only reviewed half its 100,000 absentee ballots. Like Shirley, she said her team had stumbled upon the issue. She said she wondered how many other counties were aware of it.

"Maybe not everyone has been as thorough as us and noticed this," she said.

"The detection of this major problem was only because of diligent citizen oversight. The officials charged with the duty to fully test the equipment recklessly failed to responsibly do so, or to audit it," said Marilyn Marks, executive director of the Coalition for Good Governance, which is demanding in court that the state scrap the ballot-marking devices.

Dominion spokeswoman Kay Stimson referred questions to the state

Voting security expert Harri Hursti said inadequate pre-election testing may be the cause of the issue

The Dominion election system used on Tuesday is proprietary. Hursti said it has never been subjected to an independent security review.

It was, however, denied certification by Texas, which cited "multiple hardware and software issues" identified by state-appointed examiners "

Many readers might find it hard to believe the possibility that these officials might just be protecting their jobs at the expense of full electoral integrity in their state when they stubbornly refuse Trump's reasonable request for a robust audit (instead of a mere pointless recount), if anything just to prove him wrong. But you have to see it from their perspective (assuming that we are right): since their state won't make any difference to Trump's chances of winning the electoral college as it stands now, why should they sacrifice their careers for what they believe is likely a meaningless consolation result for Trump at best? If there is a chance that they have even knowingly lied about the efficiency or security of the system, their careers could be the least of their worries.

Had the Governor and the Secretary of State not entangled their reputations on their implementation of the Dominion system, they would have been as aggressive in going after Stacy Abrams and other suspicious players as Texas did. In fact, they have already started going after her in other ways that do not involve exposing the Dominion Systems. Abrams may have misread their unwillingness to cooperate with Trump after the election as some kind of sign that they are willing to let her continue with her scheme even in the senate run off elections. She was wrong; their only fear is exposing Dominion's security and efficiency issues to the public again, as they would not survive a fiasco in the presidential election.

Probably to prove his loyalty to the GOP, Secretary of State Raffensperger has already announced that he is launching investigations into Stacy Abrams' group, for seeking to "aggressively" register "ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters" before the state's Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections. I am very confident that he will destroy her before that election.

Raffensperger's office detailed instances in which "The New Georgia Project," (founded by Abrams and previously led by senate runoff candidate Warnock) tried to solicit voters living out of state and people who have passed away (the usual tactics.)

It should be obvious that these groups did not become dishonest only for the runoff elections. There is no way the Secretary of State really believes that Abrams' groups did nothing wrong for the November 3 election.

It is clear that both the Governor and the Secretary of State genuinely want Republicans to keep the Senate and even wanted Trump to win the presidency. They were simply caught up in a difficult situation of their own making with Dominion Systems, which has made them stubbornly resistant to a full audit (with signatures, system accuracy checks, etc) that would probably reveal Abrams' malfeasance, but only while also revealing their own incompetence, if not outright dishonesty, for recklessly implementing one of the most risky voting systems.

The GA officials share this mutual interest with the executives of Dominion who would lose their business in the US if it is found that they are indeed unsecure, inefficient or unreliable. They are happy to continue addressing the Hugo Chavez rumors for as long as this keeps the public from the real problems. If it is found that someone had remote access to their machines, for example, that would certainly end their business, as it ends the careers of Georgian officials.

Conclusion

Why am I opposed to the black takeover of power in America through illegitimate means?

It has nothing to do with black or white.

I do not know why this happens, but every time people (try to) gain power by organizing themselves along ethnic lines, it brings out the worst demons in them, especially if the organizing principle is some imaginary evilness of another ethnicity. I recall how some very friendly Hutu people seemingly became overnight monsters when their elite leaders successfully "organized" them against the "evil" Tutsi in Rwanda, leading to over a million mindless murders in a tiny African nation.

A newly emboldened elected official in Michigan, Cynthia Johnson, may have given us a glimpse into such demons when she basically issued an order to harm "Trumpers," in a chilling video released on 9th December:

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At this stage, the one last Hail Mary hope America has to save itself from an inevitable decline into the darkness of both ethnic warfare and clueless socialism might lie with the Lone Star State of Texas, as the state's good AG has now sued all these incompetent states that allowed themselves to be invaded by organized electoral crime.

Chanda Chisala, originally from Zambia, has been a John S. Knight Visiting Fellow at Stanford University, a Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institution, and a Reagan-Fascell Fellow at the National Endowment for Democracy.

[Dec 17, 2020] After Trump, The Flood...

Now the officials in six battleground states continuously ignore all evidences of voter fraud only to say "no evidence of voter fraud" or even more disgusting "this election is the most secure in history".
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Ghassan and Intibah Kadi for the Saker Blog,

Whether there was indeed voter fraud and rigging, and I personally believe there was and at a huge scale, it seems that, by hook or by crook, Joe Biden will become the next President of the United States of America; and we should prepare ourselves for this, regardless of our political points of view and inclinations.

The presence of Biden in the Whitehouse will definitely change course on a number of issues, both domestically within the USA and overseas, but the objective of this article is to shed a bit of light on what is likely to happen to the current pro-Biden camp and the diverse array of supporters who have helped elevate him to this position.

In more ways than one, I have always seen in Syria a microcosm of world politics and conflicts. Long before the enemies of Syria decided to launch their attack in March 2011, the masterminds of the conspiracy put the most unlikely allies together, only united by their hatred of Syria. Back then I called them the ' Anti-Syrian Cocktail' . Those allies each had their own agenda regarding Syria and had nothing in common other than their desire to remove President Bashar Al-Assad from office. Among the issues they disagreed on was his replacement, how to share the spoils, not to mention the alternative political system to install, Syria's future position in the region, international alliances, and so forth.

With a whole array of enemies, Trump inadvertently caused a rounding up of a very loosely-united anti-Trump-cocktail; only united by their hatred of him. So, let's face it and acknowledge it; they will never let him win the November 2020 elections. Though only united by their hatred of Trump, there are too many of them, they are powerful; extremely powerful, and they are very determined to get rid of him by any means possible, legal, illegal, using tactics like bribery, intimidation, threats, thuggery, and they have no one to fear because, collectively they have given each other impunity, covering each other's backs and producing a culture where criticizing them is taboo. Crucially, the 'law' and the media are on their side.

With the exception of the Clintons and Bidens perhaps, the other Democrats have their traditional political opposition to Trump, even when they see and know he is making good decisions. This is the golden rule of political duopoly. But the Clintons and the Bidens have personal dirt on them and even blood on their hands that they want to keep the lid on in order to avoid prosecution and possibly even jail. They are likely to remain united after a Trump loss, but the same cannot be said about other odd couples.

Most of the other November 2020 Biden supporters are destined to be on a collision course, and they will soon enough realize that their differences are much stronger than what united them and that they were taken for fools. None will be disappointed more than the so-called 'Progressives'.

The definition of the term progressive has morphed quite significantly over the last decade or so. Currently, it seems to include any one who stands up against Trump; and this is the primordial cause of the confusion and reason for future conflict between them. In reality, what defines the term 'progressive' in any existing progressive movement can be totally different from that of another movement; and the difference is not necessarily marginal. Being 'progressive' in the 21st Century implies the presence of a very specific agenda or slogan that may or may not be compatible with other 'progressive' agendas.

Take the Assange supporters for example. The moment they wake up from their deep slumber, they will realize that the man they supported to become President is actually the leader of the political party that has put Assange in jail for exposing his party's dirt. I hope that Trump pulls the rug from underneath their feet and pardons Assange before the 20th of January 2021. But will this show the Assange supporters who is who? Not necessarily because if they wanted to open up their eyes and see, they would have seen from day one that Assange's biggest enemy is none but Hillary Clinton and that she is the one responsible for his demise; not Trump.

But the Assange supporters did not play a major role in the elections; at least not directly, and at least not as much as their closest 'progressives'; the peace activists.

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The Democrats and their cohorts have portrayed Trump as a warmonger. When peace activists eventually see that Biden will have to serve his warlord masters and start new wars across the globe, they will have to think again. He is already touting hiring well known hawks in key positions in his forthcoming cabinet and team of advisors, with his Defense Secretary reportedly selected.

When it comes to street power however, none has been more powerful and effective as the combination of BLM and the environmentalists.

BLM activists have just fallen a tad short of blaming Trump for an American five-century long history of racism. But how much do BLM activists really care about Climate Change and specifically about Greta-type environmental vision of how the world should run? Moreover, most environmentalists, if not all of them, are anti-vaxxers. When they see that Biden is the trump card for the vaccine empire, they may wish they didn't take to the streets to unseat the Trump card they had in the Whitehouse. If there is/was one person standing up against the malevolent "Gates vaccine", it has to be Trump, and the single-issue anti-vaxxers are against Trump. Try to make sense of this.

This is not to forget and ignore that the Climate Change activists will soon find out, the hard way, that Biden will not come clean on the zero-emission promise; not only because he doesn't want to, not only because he goes to bed with the petro-dollar lobby, but also because he does not have the alternative technology to replace fossil fuel with.

In and out and in between the BLM and Climate Change activists, what do the Climate Change activists have in common ideologically with BLM and at what stage will they break ranks and decide to go against one another? What will happen after either one of them accuses the other, rightfully I must say, that they have been used as pawns by the 'Deep State'?

And who said that the BLM has more in common with the LBGTI community and activists than it does with the gun lobby? Sections of the BLM likely also love guns.

And speaking of Greta, for how much longer will she able to keep up the fallacy that her agenda and those of her friends Soros and the World Economic Forum (WEF), and its members that include Monsanto, are actually compatible?

And for the right or wrong reasons, who is to guarantee that the tens of millions of Trump supporters are going to sit and accept that the election win of Biden is legitimate and that they have to swallow it? Will this cause social strife, violence on the streets, even worse perhaps civil war and much more? We don't know. What we do know is that a controversy about election results should have been dealt with in total transparency in order to put all concerns to rest. But this is not happening, and it is not going to happen because a decision has been made against Trump dictating that he must lose.

But the after-Trump-effect is not necessarily going to affect only America. Right-wing politics, including the extreme version of it, have been on the rise in the world, and especially in Western Europe. And if the Neo-Nazis look threatening because their ideology is based on a very dark chapter in human history, what do we really know is on the agenda of the forces that have combined the very diverse elements of the anti-Trump cocktail in order to serve its objective(s)? What is it really that they want?

Hitler was at least clear about his mission statement. He wanted an Aryan Third Reich to rule the world for a thousand years. The rest of the world did not have to wonder and ponder about his intentions. He sent a very clear message to rest of the world, a message clear enough to unite the West with the Bolsheviks against him.

But today, we have an invisible driving force that has managed to put together an array of the most unlikely partners in order to fight a common cause. Do we not at least ask the question 'why?'

In the case of Syria, the answer to the 'why' question was to topple Assad, albeit without having a plan that went further, at least as a united coalition. It would have been impossible for the plotters and planners to each disclose what they had in mind. In reality, they did not have any plan at all other than replacing him with a void. Fast-forward; the get-rid-of-Trump plan is very similar; get rid of him without having a plan so as to ensure all participants are pleased and appeased, because the plan seems to also be based on replacing Trump with chaos and anarchy .

The irony here is that the anti-Trump-cocktail is not only comprised of his political opponents, mainstream media, social media, but also includes government agencies such as the DOJ, the CIA, the FBI and even some American Republicans.

Briefly put, Trump has been chosen to lose, but after him, the flood is imminent. The current allies who lobbied against him will very shortly come to the realization that they are no longer united, and some will even turn into enemies fighting over the spoils of the win.

In more ways than one, they will harvest the fruit of the seeds they planted, and they will rightfully deserve all consequences. A Biden win is the most befitting 'punishment' of the anti-Trump cocktail.

Apart from the hapless American populace, the biggest loser of this all is the international stature of America as the leader of the so-called Democratic Free World. In a fitting blowback for these pernicious actors, Trump would have proven without a shadow of doubt, that the Deep State is so deep and powerful, powerful enough to mobilize its own enemies to serve it.

At that point, to quote the rhetoric of the "Great Reset" agenda, but again, as blowback, things will never be the same again for these dangerous characters. play_arrow


Justus_Americans 18 hours ago

Steve Bannon: Trump should revoke Biden's Security Clearance Biden had a duty to report Son Hunter
https://youtu.be/N5XoZjN5xdQ

africoman 21 hours ago

SCOTUS rejects Texas lawsuit and other swing states too

I think it shows how corrupted all three branches have become.

But, the POTUS who get done firing CIA/FBI/ and many others officials with Tweeter , how come he isn't doing that to Ag Barr or any others who aren't doing their job to investigate it and bring the perps to justice if the election-selection proved to be rigged & it was. So he is playing game with his pay masters

The Supreme Court had one last chance to keep ... - RT News

Nexus789 20 hours ago

Evil stalks the US political system. It doesn't matter who is in the White house. Biden is just as corrupt as is his dull cabinet picks.

DeeDeeTwo 1 day ago remove link

I love the way the DOJ or Delaware of whomever has had a "criminal investigation" open on the Bidens for many years. Ha-ha, no one in DC can talk about a "criminal investigation" and it just disappears like large pizza down Bill Barr's hatch.

CosmoJoe 1 day ago

Biden is the return of the crony establishment politicians who want the statue quo back. They want to go back to enriching themselves and their allies while their side job is "leading" the country. Biden is going to jettison the far left kooks in his party now that their usefulness of getting him elected is over.

African Americans really f*cked this up. They had a guy in the white house who actually did things for their communities, and they voted against this for a return of the Dems who don't give two sh1ts about inner cities or crime. I guess while I had some hope that more people in the Black community were taking the red pill, there are just too many that are still stuck on stupid.

dibiase 1 day ago

All that's really changing is the figurehead... I guess Biden might not hire so many people from Goldman... j p morgan needs more friends in there...

Your account is currently banned 1 day ago remove link

Not a return, just a continuation. Only those not jaded by the carnival barking elixir salesman can recognize it.

CosmoJoe 1 day ago remove link

You think people like Bezos want anything to do with Antifa or BLM? You think any of the billionaires in this country are going to turn over their wealth and power to a bunch of soycucks?

SonOfSam 1 day ago

Antifa and BLM are the (((billionaires))) favorite pets. They attack only their competititors, small businesses, burning them to the ground. They will never attack any really big business, not ever.

Your account is currently banned 1 day ago remove link

LOL. Let me share something from one of my favorite anarchists:

"Adulation of "great presidents" epitomizes the prevailing misunderstanding of the nature of politics and government .People do not expect to find chastity in a whorehouse. Why, then, do they expect to find honesty and humanity in government, a congeries of institutions whose modus operandi consists of lying, cheating, stealing, and, if need be, murdering those who resist? The public persists in supposing that good leaders can be found to replace the currently ruling brutes, but ferocious prizefighters do not tend to be replaced by pacifistic Milquetoasts, and in the event that the latter happened to gain office, they would be quickly ousted by the former." – Robert Higgs - "Against Leviathan"

jeff montanye 1 day ago remove link

telling them the truth?

bush wanted a humble foreign policy and helped run 9-11 then killed a million largely innocent people in their home countries that never attacked the u.s.

obama promised never to start/fight "dumb" wars then started three, killed ditto, and left each a failed state, as best he could, as yinon planned.

trump didn't start any wars, reduced u.s. presence in at least two, presented the very brave and prescient one-state solution for israel/palestine, and had the sense and courage to say that bombs not just planes destroyed the wtc on 9-11.

that's a lot more truth than the entire rest of the u.s. government and the mockingbird state media have offered in a generation.

Your account is currently banned 1 day ago

Yep. I was converted not long after that. When you finally shed all the fairy tales that government has fed you over the years, and you can look at it all with some level of detached objectivity, the absurdity becomes laughingly obvious. Mencken summed it up well:

" The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are."

Target Practice 1 day ago remove link

Vatican sides with Fascists in WWII Hitler, Mussolini, Franco .

Prescott S. Bush financed Hitler.

His boy, George H W Bush, ran the CIA and called for a New World Order .

And his boy, George W Bush Jr, was president on 9-11.

booboo 1 day ago remove link

Hitler was the reaction to the Bolsheviks not the other way around.

"This movement among the **** is not new... this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing... it has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century"

Winston Churchill

Sound familiar?

66Mustanggirl PREMIUM 1 day ago (Edited)

Democrats literally spent four years writing the handbook on how NOT to accept election results.

If Joe Biden actually succeeds in stealing this election, 73 million plus Trump supporters are going to take that handbook and shove it down the throats of the Dem/RINO Swamp creatures until they choke on it.

Stuck on Zero 1 day ago remove link

At least a thousand of the most powerful people in America would face indictments for racketeering, sex charges, human and drug trafficking, and treason if Trump remains in office. He has to go.

EightyEight Mike 1 day ago

voted Biden and R down ticket.

I don't believe that. You're just trying to explain the absurd election results. Nobody believes that 80 million morons came out to vote for Biden.

dibiase 1 day ago

Fake news. No such thing as a Biden supporter. Just people who hate trump.

Patmos 1 day ago (Edited) remove link

The left in the US currently gives us the unbelievably sh!tty mixture of the war mongering establishment MIC who laugh about killing heads of state like the wretch Hillary did, and the "woke" regressive useful idiots who are short on wisdom and long on falling for empty rhetoric.

spacemonkey99 1 day ago (Edited)

"...producing a culture where criticizing them is taboo"

That is the worst of it. Its interesting the article mentions the 3rd Reich because I think we have something of a 4th Reich right now with blm antifa and supporters.

40 foot tall banners at sporting events, marches through neighborhoods, intimidation of course plenty of broken windows... It really looks like crystalnacht out there so I am not sure how this gets better

KenilworthCookie 1 day ago

Murcia; You get what You Deserve. Enjoy.

sborovay07 1 day ago

Major assumption is that Trump is not going to enact EO 13848. The Deep State operatives were desperate and wanted anything that they could control.

not dead yet 1 day ago

You, and your up voters, are a perfect example of ignorant Americans. This article is a short but concise analysis, far from complete but it hits many high points, of why Trump was shafted in the election and has to go. Those who have been closely following the saga since Trumps election are not surprised by anything this guy wrote. Way far too many people are always whining and complaining about ZH and others publishing stuff they don't agree with haven't a clue what's going on.

I do have to disagree all the parties that hate Trump and want him out will be at each others throats. Bidenho's government, the globalists, and the enviro wack jobs all want the same thing. Putting down, if not eliminating, us little people and have a one world police state dictatorship. Lockdowns and the poverty that comes with it are just the start and under Bidenho I expect them to continue. The Covid "problem" is way overblown but IMHO expect a national lockdown starting Jan 21 and the Karens and those made irrationally scared of Covid, we're talking millions here, will support it.

Totally_Disillusioned 1 day ago

Biden represents the global corporatists and he's the XI/CCP's poodle. Spend 15 minutes listing to Steve Bannon at the Eurasian Symposium back in early 2019. He's on a tear helping the globalist attendees better understand by Trump lead the way for working people around the world. We all know China's economy has been fabricated on the backs of slave labor - just so that the corporatists can have their products produced cheaply while abusing the Chinese people. He's on fire and speaks truth to power. The 15 minutes you'll spend listening will tell you all you need to know about the Democrat crime families - Clintons, Bidens, Feinsteins, Pelosi, etc. He was right back then and is more right today. Understand why we must defeat this globalist evil...

High Vigilante 1 day ago

Hmmm. So there was a fight in the SCOTUS. Here is the link: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/loud-arguments-in-us-supreme-court-chambers-over-texas-lawsuit-court-intimidated

quanttech 1 day ago

Hal Turner - a pretend "Nazi" who was/is an FBI informant (look it up) and was convicted anyway of threatening a judge. I'm not clicking on a Hal Turner link because it is, by definition, disinformation. Don't take my word for it, look it up yourself.

Totally_Disillusioned 1 day ago

Robert's intimidated by the rioting? Wonder what threats were made on him, his family...

homericninjas 1 day ago

Don't rule out him simply being a gutless poosie

quanttech 1 day ago remove link

Their leaders are con artists just like trumptards are led by a con artist.

AOC is a CIA construct. Bernie's job is to deliver the left to the opposite of the left, the Reagan/Thatcher neoliberals. The "squad" makes excuses for the wars.

[Dec 17, 2020] The second biggest problem with Trump's election challenges - The Washington Post

Wapo is trying to deceive its readers: elections rule were specifically changed for 2020 elections resulting in mail-in ballots fiasco. But that does not justifies Trump inaction and incompetence.
Another problem in impotence of neoliberal elite: they even can't cheat well ;-)
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is something that has gotten relatively little attention: the failure to raise these issues earlier -- i.e., before the election.

Over and over again, judges have noted the pro-Trump legal effort could just as well have challenged the election rules before the election results went against him.

A key -- and unusually close decision -- from the Wisconsin Supreme Court on Monday noted that an absentee ballot form the Trump team objected to had in fact been used for more than a decade (including during Trump's 2016 win) with no legal challenge. AD

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"Penalizing the voters election officials serve and the other candidates who relied on this long-standing guidance is beyond unfair," the court said. "The Campaign sat on its hands, waiting until after the election, despite the fact that this 'application' form was in place for over a decade."

It was hardly the first time judges have noted the tardy challenges. Just this weekend, U.S. District Judge Brett H. Ludwig, who was appointed by Trump, offered a similar rebuke after state and federal courts said such challenges should be filed before the election .

"I don't think I heard a very good explanation today as to why the plaintiffs didn't raise these issues in advance of the election when the guidance was issued," Ludwig said .

Another judge whom Trump had put on his Supreme Court shortlist, William Pryor, also agreed with a lower-court ruling that said pro-Trump lawyer L. Lin Wood had plenty of time to complain about Georgia's election rules before Trump lost. Pryor cited the doctrine of laches , which holds that a claim can't just be brought when it is suddenly convenient for the plaintiff. AD

"This procedure has been in place for at least three elections since March, including the general election on November 3, 2020," Pryor wrote . "Over one million Georgians voted by absentee ballot in the general election. No one challenged the settlement agreement until the filing of this action. By then, the general election returns had been tallied and a statewide hand recount of the presidential election results was underway."

Pryor ruled that Wood had no standing to bring the case but added that, even if he did, the laches doctrine meant "he could have sued eight months earlier, yet he waited until two weeks after the election."

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has offered perhaps the biggest rebuke on this count. It noted that the law at issue in the Trump team's case -- Act 77, which was passed by the GOP-controlled state legislature -- was a year old. This was the first case the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear, before its Texas decision on Friday. AD

Here's what the state Supreme Court ruled :

Petitioners' challenge violates the doctrine of laches given their complete failure to act with due diligence in commencing their facial constitutional challenge, which was ascertainable upon Act 77's enactment. It is well-established that "[l]aches is an equitable doctrine that bars relief when a complaining party is guilty of want of due diligence in failing to promptly institute an action to the prejudice of another." Petitioners filed this facial challenge to the mail-in voting statutory provisions more than one year after the enactment of Act 77. At the time this action was filed on November 21, 2020, millions of Pennsylvania voters had already expressed their will in both the June 2020 Primary Election and the November 2020 General Election and the final ballots in the 2020 General Election were being tallied, with the results becoming seemingly apparent. Nevertheless, Petitioners waited to commence this litigation until days before the county boards of election were required to certify the election results to the Secretary of the Commonwealth. Thus, it is beyond cavil [i.e., a standard of frivolous objection] that Petitioners failed to act with due diligence in presenting the instant claim. Equally clear is the substantial prejudice arising from Petitioners' failure to institute promptly a facial challenge to the mail-in voting statutory scheme, as such inaction would result in the disenfranchisement of millions of Pennsylvania voters.

Much of the Trump legal challenge has focused on supposed fraud. But increasingly it has focused on the idea that, regardless of proven fraud , the changes made by elections officials in key states made such fraud undetectable. This was a central point in the lawsuit brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R), which the Trump campaign, 18 GOP attorneys general and 126 GOP House members joined.

But as plenty noted at the time, other states whose results the election didn't seek to undo made similar or the same changes, and the lawsuit didn't seek to invalidate their results. It's understandable that a legal effort to question an election's results would focus on close states, but if you're seeking to invalidate large numbers of votes in one fell swoop, focusing only on those close states is entirely convenient.

As is focusing on laws you could have challenged long ago, before they (very arguably) mattered.

[Dec 17, 2020] Hal Turner Radio Show - Loud Arguments in US Supreme Court Chambers over Texas Lawsuit - COURT INTIMIDATED

Dec 17, 2020 | halturnerradioshow.com

THIS ARTICLE WAS PREVIOUSLY LOCKED AND FOR SUBSCRIBERS ONLY. IT HAS BEEN UNLOCKED AT THE PERSONAL REQUEST OF STEVE QUAYLE -- From a source deep inside the US Supreme Court as they discussed the pending Texas lawsuit against Pennsylvania et. al. . . .

"Hal, as you know I am a clerk for one of the Justices on SCOTUS. Today was like nothing we have ever seen. The justices are arguing loudly behind closed doors.

The Justices met in a closed and sealed room, as is standard.

Usually it is very calm, however today we could hear screaming all the way down the hall.

They met in person, because they didn't trust telephonic meeting as secure.

Chief Justice Roberts was screaming

"Are you going to be responsible for the rioting if we hear this case?"

"Don't tell me about Bush v. Gore, we weren't dealing with riots then"

"You are forgetting what your role here is Neil, and I don't want to hear from the two junior justices anymore. I will tell you how you will vote."

Justice Clarence Thomas says "This is the end of Democracy, John."

When they left the room, Roberts, the Libs and Kavanugh had big smiles. Alito and Thomas were visibly upset. ACB and Gorsuch didn't seem fazed at all."

Clearly Chief Justice Roberts is intimidated by the ANTIFA/Left-wing rioting. Well, one has to wonder if maybe he can be intimidated more by some actions of the right wing? (Corrections thanks to Becky @ LewRockewell.com)

I'm not going to bother doing that or anything else, and neither should any of you, but I'm just wondering, is all.

[Dec 17, 2020] Signature Match Audit Finally Ordered In Georgia... But Not Where Late-Night 'Ballot Suitcases' Made Headlines - ZeroHedge

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Exactly 20 days after Georgia Governor Brian Kemp called for (but didn't order) a statewide signature audit in the wake of CCTV footage of Atlanta poll workers producing suspicious ballots from under a table once election monitors had left , Secretary of State Ben Raffensperger has finally ordered a signature match audit - in the next county over .

In a Monday announcement, Raffensperger said that investigators will audit voter signatures on absentee ballot envelopes in Cobb County, a suburb of Atlanta that voted 56.3% for Biden vs. neighboring (Atlanta's) Fulton County at 72.6%.

Which, to state the obvious, begs the question as to why Raffensperger didn't order the audit where the suspicious late-night ballots were caught on tape? And why didn't Raffensperger order a signature match audit sooner?

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"Now that the signature matching has been attacked, again and again with no evidence, I feel we need to take steps to restore confidence in our elections," said Raffensperger during a press conference at the state Capitol. "Starting immediately, we are pulling all of our resources together with GBI to conduct a signature match audit in Cobb County."

There it is - to restore confidence, by waiting nearly six weeks after multiple sworn affidavits that fraud occurred were followed by a damning video of election workers wheeling ballots out for a late-night count, putting Biden in the lead. Let's also not forget that Fulton County election officials lied about a ' burst pipe ' in order to evacuate poll watchers for around 90 minutes on Election night .

The signature audit is scheduled to be completed in two weeks. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation and the secretary of state's office will review a statistically significant sample of absentee ballot envelopes from both the primary and general election in Cobb County. Signatures on envelopes will be compared to signatures from when voters registered, either at driver's license offices or on paper forms.

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Cobb Election Director Janine Eveler said her office will assist with the audit, but it's awaiting a court order before gathering the necessary materials.

Eveler said the complaint referenced by Raffensperger came from the June primary. - AJC

"I'm confident any audit would find our office followed procedures and only counted ballots that were processed correctly," said Eveler, adding "Even though our resources are already stretched thin by advance voting and preparations for the Jan. 5 runoff , we will help this process move as expeditiously as possible."

In response to the signature audit, Georgia GOP runoff candidate Sen. Kelly Loeffler finally found her voice after weeks of silence on Trump's election challenges - saying it doesn't go far enough .

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"That's a start. Only 158 counties left to go," said Loeffler spokesman, Stephen Lawson," adding " Full audit or it didn't happen. "

Gov Kemp, meanwhile, parroted Raffensperger's statement, saying "People want to have confidence in the election. That's why I felt like it would be good to do a signature audit just to bring people peace of mind."

In short, we expect signatures to match and the establishment to tout the results of this 'restoration of confidence,' while Loeffler scores a few brownie points with Trump supporters for having piped up.

[Dec 17, 2020] Dominion Voting Systems deleted SolarWinds reference from their website - ZeroHedge

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

The Dominion Voting Systems website has removed the link and reference for SolarWinds from their platform . It seems that the Dominion Voting Machines are trying to hide their relationship with SolarWinds. SolarWinds has been the center of conspiracy since the past few days after the big hack. The Dominion Voting Systems are being criticized for using a technology firm that was hacked. These voting systems assist voting in 28 states, therefore being attached to a technology firm that was hacked is not good for its name.

Dominion Voting Systems website removes SolarWinds link

Previously, SolarWinds did not mention Dominion on its partial customer listing. However, SolarWinds maintained that their products and services are used all over the globe by approximately 300,000 customers. This customer base also includes all five arms of the United States Military. Reports also indicate that 425 of the customers happen to be United States Fortune 500 companies.

The loophole in the security system of SolarWinds software paved the way for hackers to gain access to the U.S. Commerce Department as well as the Treasury Department. The Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Agency (CISA) stated that the Orion products owned by SolarWinds were exploited by malicious hackers who managed to secure access. The method employed by hackers also allowed them to gain access to the network traffic management systems.

In the last few weeks, Dominion has attracted attention due to how widespread its systems and machines are in the United States. Dominion machines are used in major states of the United States. A number of witnesses have come forward to claim that Dominion products were connected to the Internet during the recent presidential election, raising doubts about security mechanisms.

The reason why Dominion Voting Systems removed the link and reference of SolarWinds from their website is unknown. However, if one connects the dot the reason is obvious. Dominion did not want to be associated with a technology firm that was hacked when it is already facing accusations regarding its security systems. Disclose.tv today tweeted , "NEW – Dominion Voting Systems deleted the link and reference to @solarwinds from its website."

Also Read : Outgoing SolarWinds CEO sold a huge amount of stock in Nov

Source: Insider Paper

[Dec 17, 2020] Crucial Logs Missing From Some Michigan Dominion Voting Machines- Forensics Report - ZeroHedge

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Crucial Logs Missing From Some Michigan Dominion Voting Machines: Forensics Report BY TYLER DURDEN MONDAY, DEC 14, 2020 - 12:44

Update (1225ET) : The Epoch Times' Ivan Pentchokov reports that crucial security and adjudication logs are missing from Dominion Voting Systems machines from Michigan's Antrim County, according to a forensics report ( pdf ) released on Dec. 14 in compliance with a court order.

"Significantly, the computer system shows vote adjudication logs for prior years; but all adjudication log entries for the 2020 election cycle are missing. The adjudication process is the simplest way to manually manipulate votes. The lack of records prevents any form of audit accountability, and their conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software," the report, authored by Russell Ramsland, states.

"We must conclude that the 2020 election cycle records have been manually removed."

The absence of the adjudication logs is particularly alarming because the forensic exam found that the voting machines rejected an extraordinary number of ballots for adjudication, a manual process in which election workers determine the ultimate outcome for each ballot.

The office of Michigan's Democrat Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, Dominion, and a spokesman for Antrim County didn't respond to requests for comment.

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As Sara Carter of SaraACarter.com detailed earlier, a Michigan judge ordered the public release Monday of a report submitted by lawyers supporting President Donald Trump and the election fraud allegations they say will reveal serious concerns that the computer machines used in the voting in Antrim County were compromised. The forensic report allegedly contains data that will reveal that the computer systems used to vote in the county were not secure and had foreign components that made them susceptible to manipulation and or fraud , according to those directly familiar with the case.

Michigan's Assistant Attorney General Erik Grill, representing Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, immediately shot back against the release of the report, which President Donald Trump supporters say raises significant questions of voter fraud and implications to the U.S. national security.

He suggested that the report being released is "inaccurate, incomplete and misleading," according to the Detroit News.

"There's no reason to hide," said Grill, during a virtual court hearing Monday morning.

"There is nothing to hide."

However, lawyers and computer experts working to expose what they say is a serious threat to U.S. security and infrastructure say the report will reveal the irregularities in the data and external foreign interference in the system.

The legal team "submitted the forensics report to the Judge (Sunday) at 8:30 a.m. per the Judge's request," stated a source familiar with the report.

According to sources, who spoke to me this weekend the forensic report of the computer system reveals that there are serious national security implications to the evidence discovered because "the election system is categorized as critical infrastructure, this is a threat to, it is a national security concern."

The lawsuit was initiated by Antrim County resident William Bailey. Circuit Judge Kevin Elsenheimer, a former Republican lawmaker, allowed Allied Securities Operation Group and Bailey to take forensic images of the county's 22 tabulators and review other election-related material to ensure election integrity.

The forensic analysis has been under protective order. It could not be released prior to the Judge's decision Monday, when Elsenheimer ordered the release with some redactions.

Antrim County has roughly 23,000 residents and the discovery that roughly 6,000 votes cast using the Dominion Voting Systems that should have gone to President Donald Trump went to Joe Biden without explanation triggered the ongoing investigation by Trump supporters.

The bizarre explanation that a failure to update voting software led to Joe Biden initially receiving those thousands of votes ahead of Trump in the Republican-leaning county wasn't accepted by the majority of Trump supporters, nor many of the Michigan GOP>

If the forensic report is accurate on the irregularities, as well as other issues of alleged fraud regarding the Dominion Voting Systems used in XX states across the country, it may snowball to other state legislatures requesting audits of their systems as well.

[Dec 17, 2020] Update on the Dominion fraud job:

Dec 17, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Update on the Dominion fraud job:

BREAKING: Antrim Co. Forensic Report BOMBSHELL Reveals Dominion Machines Were Set At 68.05% Error Rate Meaning 68.05% Of Ballots Could Be Sent Out For Mass Adjudication, Giving Individuals Or Machines Ability To Change 68.05% Of Votes

"when ballots are put through the machine, a whopping 68.05% error rate means that 68.05% of the ballots are sent for bulk adjudication,...the ballots are sent somewhere where people in another location can change the vote"

[Dec 17, 2020] Small correction for Dem senator statements: here was no fraud. It was outright theft

In other word Russiagate came back is had bitten Dem senators in the back
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Overpowered By Funk 13 hours ago remove link

To be honest, I'm looking forward to a Biden administration. All the late night TV jokes at his expense about the gaffs, mental lapses, and blank stares should be a hoot. Can't wait for the first SNL skit! Yep, I can't wait.

SillyWabbits 9 hours ago

There was no fraud.

It was outright theft.

gilhgvc 10 hours ago (Edited)

Well, it's official...we are ruled over now. Congress and senate are dukes and duchesses, courts are the new court JESTERS and biteme/cameltoe are the new king and king of the realm....I want to send an apology out to our Founding Fathers and all the men and women who died for this idea of america...we blew it guys. We are nothing like you brave souls. While we wallow in the muck with our nikes, cell phones and nose rings, the world dies a little more each day. I apologize for tearing statues down of great men, who merely did what was normal in those times. You gave it all to us on a silver platter and the morons squandered it, fat & happy to sit around bitching about being poor, while playing video games on thier $1000 I-phones....I am sorry. play_arrow

Mzhen 10 hours ago remove link

Some lowly cyber security professional testified to the Colorado legislature yesterday, saying that nobody at CISA has a background and qualifications that would allow them to state that the election was the most secure in history.

The hearing came to naught because the Democrats dominating the state don't want an audit. Colorado turned Blue almost overnight -- or it was after statewide all-mail-in voting was instituted. Probably not a coincidence.

[Dec 13, 2020] Can Trump appoint special prosecutor to investigate election fraud

Notable quotes:
"... 1. When campaigning in 2016, he promised his non-Goldman Sachs supporters (i.e., the "deplorables") that infrastructure and a wall to be paid by Mexico would be among the major priorities during his first two years; instead he came out of the chute with a tax-cut for the wealthy and a phony "repeal and replace" assault on the Affordable Care Act which led to the R loss of the House when it became clear to voters in November 2018 that the Rs and the President had nothing to offer as a replacement ..."
"... He failed to purge the bureaucracy of Obama administration holdovers on January 21, 2017, unlike Dick Cheney who threw all the Clintonians out of government on January 21, 2001, thus, leaving people in place like Sally Yates and the Vindman brothers who never missed an opportunity to knife President Trump in the back. ..."
"... He failed at the outset to investigate the case against General Flynn (engineered by Strzok, Comey and David Ignatius) who was his only close advisor with previous governmental experience and left the General twisting in the wind. ..."
Dec 13, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Alexandria , 12 December 2020 at 06:45 PM

The optics of a defeated outgoing President appointing a Special Counsel to investigate the electoral victory of his victorious successor at the ballot box and in the Electoral College, over the objections of his attorney General, do not look particularly palatable and doubly so if the President had to fire the Attorney General to make the appointment. The ensuing firestorm would make Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox look like a brush fire.

If the outgoing President were to make such an appointment, one can be assured that Joe Biden's first executive on January 21,2021 would be the firing of the putative Special Counsel, and he would be generally applauded for doing so.

Even if Biden didn't move quickly, there is the question of who should be appointed (and Trump is not particularly good at hiring good lawyers), funding (is Pelosi going to be particularly keen on appropriating the funds?) and staffing up with supporting (and supportive) attorneys, paralegals and FBI agents (you can be sure that Chris Wray will not be too enthusiastic about helping out).

That said, there is one Special Counsel that needs to be appointed and that is a Special Counsel to investigate the Hunter Biden affair[s} which reached all the way to the "Big Guy", according to Tony Bobulinski. Joe Biden appears to have been the electoral beneficiary of a massive cover-up of "Biden-gate" with the black-out of the New York Daily News story by Big tech, the almost-total suppression of the Hunter laptop and the Tony Bobulinski revelations by the MSM and the coordinated fabrications of the former IC biggies, like Clapper, Brennan and Morrell, who very publicly dismissed the New York Post Story and Bobulinski revelations as the product of Russian disinformation and artful lies embedded in a KGB-engineered fake lap-top.

The 2020 election, with its cover-up and potential denouement, is beginning to look more and more like the 1972 election where the cover-up led to the resignation of a President who just 20 months prior had been elected in one of the biggest landslides in American history. This is the investigation we need NOW to save our Republic.

turcopolier , 12 December 2020 at 09:08 PM

Alexandria

IMO the presidential election was stolen and Biden is a crook, has always been a nasty. That being said if you want a special prosecutor for l'affaire Hunter, have at it.

Fred , 12 December 2020 at 09:25 PM

Alexandria,

Hunter the bag man for crooked Joe? What did Obama know and when did he know it? The same should be asked about his and Brennan and Clapper's involvement in The Steal.

BillWade , 12 December 2020 at 09:47 PM

Given that Hunter's troubles were non-news but a month ago and now are big-news the vision in my head is Hillary sneaking up on China Joe's back with a rather large dagger. Good luck Joe!

Deap , 13 December 2020 at 02:24 AM

Gosh, what about the optics of the outgoing Obama administration plotting to take down Flynn and Trump.

Bad manners for sure, because a lot of this anti-Trump plotting sure looked like the work of the sore losers still occupying the WH until the 11th hour when the infamous Susan Rice CYA memo was typed and filed. And the last Samatha Power FISA unmasking request was unmasked for purposes still unknown.

Ah, yes, the bad optics of it all. Bummer. Bad optics is seeing the thoroughly discredited and rejected Obama team warming up in the dug out.

Bad optics is Trump leaving office and NOT appointing a special counsel to investigate both election fraud and Hunter Biden incestuous influence peddling. Two transgressions we never want to see in this country again.

Seamus Padraig , 13 December 2020 at 04:13 AM

@Alexandria | 12 December 2020 at 06:45 PM

The optics of a defeated outgoing President appointing a Special Counsel ...

Who cares about optics. I mean, what're the Dems going to do at this point? Impeach Trump again? Meanwhile, our constitution is dying. THAT'S the only issue that matters at this point.
That said, there is one Special Counsel that needs to be appointed and that is a Special Counsel to investigate the Hunter Biden affair[s} which reached all the way to the "Big Guy", according to Tony Bobulinski.

Hunter Biden is beside the point. His daddy ain't gonna be president for too long anyway. The only issue that matters now is the fraud and nothing else. Don't let the Mockingbird media--the same that adamantly refused to cover anything about Hunter BEFORE the election--distract you with a bunch of irrelevant BS now.
turcopolier , 13 December 2020 at 09:08 AM

Alexandria et al

SWMBO says do both otherwise we end up with KH when he resigns or is impeached.

irf520 , 13 December 2020 at 10:03 AM

@akaPatience: If they weren't Trump's picks, then what was Trump doing there? If he can't pick his own cabinet, he was just wasting his and everyone else's time. Yes, they have to be approved by the senate. What happens if the president and the senate can't agree?

As for the remarks about optics, I think it's all a bit late to worry about optics. The dems just stole the election right in front of everyone's faces. They aren't worrying about optics. They essentially just stole it and then turned round and said, "What are you going to do about it?"

Artemesia , 13 December 2020 at 10:55 AM

Col., OT, perhaps impertinent, but inspired by the Wisdom of SWMBO--

I'm just a few years younger than you. I carry a few excess pounds but retain the immune system of my Italian peasant ancestors. Not a chance in the world that I will allow myself to be injected with an "emergency authorized" vaccine.

If I may ask: Will you?

nb. Not entirely off-topic, since the rigged election relied on Covid hysteria propagated by media and the same usual suspects as should be the subject of Special Counsel.
In other words, the Covid pandemic should be investigated. More urgently: distribution of vaccine should be HALTED before anyone is (potentially} harmed.

turcopolier , 13 December 2020 at 11:41 AM

Artemesia

I had a talk with my immigrant Chinese doctor about this. That was two days ago. He was still working out how this would be funded but he said to me that we (his family and mine) would wait just a bit to see how bad the reactions are.

Deap , 13 December 2020 at 12:35 PM

My memory of the very early days of Trump WH staffing was having to run interference past the Democrats standard and vicous politics o personal destruction out to destroy anyone who even thought about particpating in the Trump administration, the renegade GOP establishment undermining him at every turn denying him any establishment help or advice, and the normal learning curve of someone 100% outside of the political establishment who was bound to stumble and falter before hitting his stride.

Democrats declared it was treason for anyone to aid and abet the "enemy" even though Trump did try to reach out - remember his very early High Tech guru meeting? The liberal media never let up, the deep state leaked and sabotaged as a fifth column from within.

The most remarkable thing about Trump is what in fact he did accomplish anyway, despite the constant opposition, churning and revolving door of staff appointments.

#45 presidency remains a story of amazing accomplishments. Thank you President Trump. I did not think you had this in you. But you did. Sitting in Dr Norman Vincent Peale's Marble Collegiate Church in NYC, taking early lessons from his Power of Positive Thinking and practicing The Method held you in good course.

(See PBS Peter Graves Biography on the early Donald Trump -from the Marla Maple days - what you saw then is what you also got in 2026 - youtube)

The man is transparent and consistent. No one can complain they were duped or he is a false charade. He is what he says and he delivered. How refreshing.

Alexandria , 13 December 2020 at 12:36 PM

Colonel and Others,

Please excuse my "politeness" in using the phrase "bad optics" to describe a proposed potential action by a defeated outgoing President to appoint a "Special Prosecutor" to investigate the election of his victorious successor when such an action, to be blunt, would be politically stupid, subversive of our Constitutional order and futile, as such action would be immediately reversed in the first minutes of the incoming administration. If we are talking about "savor[ing]", it would only give the Ds an opportunity to "savor" another victory.

The President has only himself to blame for the legal setbacks suffered by his ineffective lawyers who have never been able to produce sufficient evidence to convince even his judicial appointees that substantial electoral fraud took place during the 2020 balloting. Constitutional challenges to gubernatorial changes to balloting procedures for usurping legislative authority should have been mounted immediately after they were announced, not at the 13th hour after the ballots had been counted. In 2000, Jim Baker organized a team that included four lawyers who now sit on the Supreme Court. The failing, flailing Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell (as much as I admire her advocacy for General Flynn), by contrast, have not cut any mustard with their post-hoc and sometimes bizarre arguments. IMHO, the President should cease and desist now from taking actions which detract from the R effort to save the Senate seats in Georgia which, if lost, will immediately begin the de-Republicanization (used Constitutionally) of our American system of government.

IMHO, the President has only himself to blame for losing the 2020 election due to a succession of self-inflicted miscues which began on Day 1 of his administration. Let me count the ways:

1. When campaigning in 2016, he promised his non-Goldman Sachs supporters (i.e., the "deplorables") that infrastructure and a wall to be paid by Mexico would be among the major priorities during his first two years; instead he came out of the chute with a tax-cut for the wealthy and a phony "repeal and replace" assault on the Affordable Care Act which led to the R loss of the House when it became clear to voters in November 2018 that the Rs and the President had nothing to offer as a replacement . Thus, he repeated the same mistake that Clinton and Obama made in 1993 and 2009 and suffered the same fate that they suffered in 1994 and 2008 when they lost the House. In this case, President Trump's mistake was near fatal as he gave his bitter enemy, Nancy Pelosi, the whip hand in which to drive the Country to impeachment. We are still waiting for a "replacement" and a completed "Wall".

2. He failed to purge the bureaucracy of Obama administration holdovers on January 21, 2017, unlike Dick Cheney who threw all the Clintonians out of government on January 21, 2001, thus, leaving people in place like Sally Yates and the Vindman brothers who never missed an opportunity to knife President Trump in the back.

3. He failed at the outset to investigate the case against General Flynn (engineered by Strzok, Comey and David Ignatius) who was his only close advisor with previous governmental experience and left the General twisting in the wind.

4. He bungled the firing of Jim Comey after getting Rod Rosenthal to sign onto a memo citing Comey's botched and procedurally defective Clinton email investigation as the reason, then publicly boasted of having done so with the Russian Foreign Minister and Ambassador and, for a self-inflicted coup de grace, told Lester Holt that he fired Comey because of Russia fatally undermining the laboriously constructed Justice Department rationale. The Comey firing and the President's ineptitude led directly to the appointment of a Special Prosecutor.

5. Moving ahead three years, after narrowly escaping the Mueller noose, the President immediately bungled the effort to get the Hunter Biden/Joe Biden corruption story out to the public, thus putting the noose back around his neck, by seeking in a conversation with the Ukrainian President, with his many enemies listening in, to get the Ukrainians to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Biden-Burisma connection. Surely, there was a competent way to get the story out without igniting an impeachment controversy. He could have taken a seminar with Dick Cheney to figure out how this is done, all the while keeping his fingerprints off the weapon.

6. Another egregious self-inflicted and, perhaps, fatal wound: He gives Bob Woodward (a mortal enemy) the right to conduct a taped-interview during which he admits to Woodward, among other things, that he had been briefed at the outset about the lethality of COVID19, which gave the lie to his previous pronouncements that the virus was little more than another version of the flu. The election of 2020 was in many respects a referendum on President Trump's handling of the Corona Virus. Had he leveled with the American people, under-promised and over-delivered, instead of over-promising and under-delivering by election day, he would most likely be taking the oath of office for a second term. BTW, Pfizer had all the information that it needed to announce prior to the last weekend in October that its vaccine was 90+ % effective, but, instead, Pfizer stopped trials the Friday before the election and did not make its announcement until after the election. It's amazing that the President's people did not have their fingers on the pulse of what was happening at Pfizer. One more fatal error.

7. On Attorney General Barr, the AG saved Trump's bacon and what was left of our Republic when he put a harness on Bob Mueller, took control of the Mueller Report, ordered up the Horwitz investigation (disagreeing with Horwitz's conclusion that there was no impropriety at the outset), put his own gloss on the Mueller Report before its dissemination, appointed a Special Counsel to investigate the origins of the Russia Investigation. If he can't find the demonstrable, provable evidence of ballot fraud sufficient to overturn the election and is hesitant to undertake a Constitutionally dubious and futile action, I am satisfied with the AG's conclusions.

turcopolier , 13 December 2020 at 01:19 PM

All

"Alexandria" is a Rhodes Scholar, Harvard Law School grad who was a senior person in Clinton's USAID, very senior.

turcopolier , 13 December 2020 at 01:25 PM

Alexandria

I do not think the COVID economic disaster can be blamed on him. What you face now is infinitely worse than the political blunders that can be blamed on him.

[Dec 13, 2020] House Conservatives Urge President Trump To Name A Special Counsel To Investigate Election Fraud

Dec 13, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com


"Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas) is leading an effort with nearly three dozen House GOP lawmakers, urging President Trump to name a special counsel to investigate election fraud. The lawmakers noted they believe the Justice Department isn't taking the allegations seriously." OAN

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IMO this should be done. A Special Counsel should be named to make it as difficult as possible for the Harris/Biden Administration to cancel all investigation of the obvious fraud at both the wholesale and retail levels (Dershowitz reference). If this is not done, consolidation of power on the Left will lead to a sham republic. IMO this Special Counsel should be appointed from outside the government. If Barr has to be fired to accomplish a direct appointment by the president, so be it. pl

https://www.oann.com/house-conservatives-urge-president-trump-to-name-a-special-counsel-to-investigate-election-fraud/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_prosecutor

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A.Pols , 12 December 2020 at 10:34 AM

Totally agree. As a parting shot it would help keep the Democrats from savoring their "victory".

BillWade , 12 December 2020 at 10:35 AM

I believe that President Trump has all the powers that the Attorney General has so there's no need to fire Barr in order for the President to appoint a Special Counsel. He should also appoint a Special Counsel to investigate Biden's Chinese connections and dealings. I heard Rudy Guiliani say this morning that given Biden's history he couldn't pass a background check for even the lowliest of government jobs requiring a check.

BillWade, Free State of Florida

Deap , 12 December 2020 at 11:42 AM

ITA - and not a second to waste doing this. No civilized country outside the US now uses "electronic voting" due to its obvious corruptions.

At this stage of the game you have to wonder whether there would be any point. How likely is it that whoever was appointed is not already compromised? Trump's picks for other posts don't inspire confidence here. Even if someone were appointed and attempted to investigate, I'm sure they would be leaned on not to look too closely and whatever conclusions they came to would never see the light of day if they were unfavourable to the usual suspects. We have already seen there is no lengths these people won't go to.

Trump had an opportunity over the last 4 years to at least try to clean up the swamp and he squandered it trying to play nice with them. But then maybe if he had really tried, he would just have been impeached, with the Republicans going along with it. That's the thing about checks and balances. They only work under the assumption that the majority of the players are honest and there are one or two bad apples. But if the majority are corrupt or compromised, the checks and balances serve to entrench the corruption and make it impossible for anyone to clean it up.

[Dec 12, 2020] Former Special Forces Officer Warns Of 'Color Revolution Tactics' Used Against Trump - ZeroHedge

Dec 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Color revolution tactics that have been used against foreign leaders are now being used by President Donald Trump 's opponents to oust him, a former special forces officer has warned.

"A color revolution is a tactic to affect regime change," the officer, who asked to remain anonymous, told The Epoch Times.

"What I see happening is a Marxist insurgency that's using a color revolution to affect regime change."

The 2019 Transition Integrity Project , according to the officer, is an indicator that the events of this year's presidential election were "transparently orchestrated" by "Marxist elements within the Democratic Party and their Marxist allies in foreign governments."

"It may not have fallen out just as they wanted, because anytime you carry out an operation like this, the enemy will get a vote. But the plan was we will not concede the election. The goal here was never the presidency, " the officer said.

"The goal of the opposition was to fundamentally change the country. They are attacking the efficacy of the Constitution."

To achieve their goal, the anti-Trump opposition focused their main effort on affecting the election, the officer said.

Some of the most notable color revolutions took place amid turmoil sparked by disputed elections. In 2004, mass protests in Ukraine following allegations of a fraudulent presidential election, which initially showed pro-Russia Viktor Yanukovych as the winner, led to a new vote won by Viktor Yushchenko, the candidate backed by the European Union and the United States.

The officer said the tactics used by the anti-Trump opposition can be found in the Special Forces' guide for overthrowing a government.

"What you're getting from me, this is supported in all older unconventional warfare doctrines," the officer said.

"You could go to our manuals and pull from them the information I'm telling you. This isn't from someone who's a rabid Trump supporter. This is what's happening ."

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The officer then talked about how President Barack Obama used his eight years in office to "seed his political allies all through the institutions," created an "underground" or "shadow government" supported by legacy media and rioters.

"With the president being unable to get his own people into the administration, we effectively had a third administration of Obama," the officer said.

"So we come to what we have today: The underground are the elements within the government. We saw how they opposed the president, how they tried the impeachment ."

"The press is the auxiliary on the outside. The only thing we're missing is a real guerrilla force, and we would be mistaken to think that's just Antifa or Black Lives Matter. There are professional revolutionaries within those movements."

[Dec 12, 2020] Blast from the past: New York Times article noting the relative prevalence of fraud with absentee voting NYT on absentee voting

Dec 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

c1ue , Dec 11 2020 20:30 utc | 11

Blast from the past: New York Times article noting the relative prevalence of fraud with absentee voting NYT on absentee voting

Republicans are in fact more likely than Democrats to vote absentee. In the 2008 general election in Florida, 47 percent of absentee voters were Republicans and 36 percent were Democrats.

On the most basic level, absentee voting replaces the oversight that exists at polling places with something akin to an honor system.

"Absentee voting is to voting in person," Judge Richard A. Posner of the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit has written, "as a take-home exam is to a proctored one."



steven t johnson , Dec 11 2020 22:03 utc | 13

If you follow the link, the article does not note a relative prevalence of fraud with absentee voting. It specifically states that voter fraud in person is rare, which means if absentee fraud is more common than that, it is still rare. This is even more true since the article has to point out that "error" such as forgetting to sign the outside of the envelope containing the ballot are much more common. This is like the assholes who pretend every error on a welfare application means welfare cheat.

The Posner quote is typical of conservative thinking. (Posner as a law and economics ideologue is a conservative.) One problem with comparing a vote to an exam is that a vote is not an exam where you can cheat by looking up the right answers. This is gibberish Sending an absentee ballot to a registered voter has zero to do with letting random strangers vote. It is also an extremely stupid analogy because a take home exam is almost invariably one with short answer/essay questions where cheating would be noticeable. Posner may have hired ringers to write his essays for him, but the notion this sort of thing applies to votes is absurd. Massive cheating on absentee ballots requires massive falsifications of voter registration rolls to get ballots to nonexistent people and/or systematically rejecting absentee ballots on specious grounds, like pretending signatures don't match, in a world where variations in handwriting *by the same person* are *inevitable.* Posner is trash, has been his entire life and the pollution of the judicial system by scumbags like him has been a crying shame for decades.

But to be upfront, Posner is deeply admired by right-wingers of many types, though too much of a evolutionay psychologist/Social Darwinist type for a few traditionalists.

bevin , Dec 11 2020 22:44 utc | 16

"...Posner may have hired ringers to write his essays for him, but the notion this sort of thing applies to votes is absurd..." steven t johnson@13

One way in which the system can be corrupted involves the gathering together of blank ballots sent to actually registered voters. In some cases the voters are bribed or intimidated to hand over their votes; in others 'bosses', often the leaders of interest groups or ethnic blocs, collect the ballots together and fill them out before delivering them, through the mail or otherwise, to be counted. Where this happens the Judge's analogy seems apposite.
The problem of people who are not able to act independently voting is one of the earlies in electoral systems: the Levellers ran across it; it was used as an excuse for disfranchising blacks in The New South; it has served as a justification for property qualifications. It was the original argument against women voting.
There is a very real fear that capitalists might insist on checking their employees' ballots, just as English and Irish landlords checked their tenants' votes-and evicted those who voted the wrong way.
The use of postal votes is wide open to abuse. Whether or not it occurred this year is another matter but it would be wise to ensure that the secrecy of the ballot was not breached by postal voting, as it most certainly can be.

Piotr Berman , Dec 12 2020 0:02 utc | 20

The use of postal votes is wide open to abuse. Whether or not it occurred this year is another matter but it would be wise to ensure that the secrecy of the ballot was not breached by postal voting, as it most certainly can be.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 11 2020 22:44 utc | 16

"Secrecy of ballot" can be breached in precinct voting, the scheme is actually simple and used: sometimes the "value" of a vote is large, e.g. Bloomberg spent 75 million on ads in 2001 to become mayor of NYC, and his victory margin was 35 thousands. Thus he spent nearly 100 dollars per vote, and the "marginal value" of the vote could be 1000. Here is the scheme from other countries: a voter is paid some amount, he/she uses a cell phone to record a filled ballot, and with that record he/she gets the rest.

The scheme with postal vote that was used by a Republican who won a tight contest for a Congressional seat from North Carolina was to have paid help visiting elderly voters to help them fill the ballot. That is legal, but they illegally took the unsealed ballots to complete them. Many voters would fill boxes for some offices only, say Governor or President, and the helping volunteer has a chance to complete it for other offices (or even correct?). In general, the schemes I read about are practical in elections with small numbers of voters, are "labor intensive" and not difficult to uncover. In statewide or national elections with high participation this is very hard and there should be much more solid proofs than "uncovered" by Trumpists.

Incidentally, on-demand postal vote was the norm in Oregon and Utah for quite a while. The argument that it is inherently inferior is Constitutionally void. The cases that Trumpists try to raise was about alleged irregularities in introducing it in some state, and according to the Constitution, this is outside Federal jurisdiction. If Supreme Court of a state decides that the "relief" from the alleged irregularities is not warranted, that is it, unless the constitution of that state does not vest that power in the state courts. What Trump lawyers want is that the procedure agreed by state legislature for the election would be retroactively invalidated after the results of the election is known. At least, that would be the case in Pennsylvania where I know more details.

steven t johnson , Dec 12 2020 3:05 utc | 25

bevin@16 conjures up a scenario where absentee ballots are either taken from registered voters or they are intimidated into voting them. This method has the problem of being easily caught, leaving every single person intimidated a potential witness *plus* onlookers seeing beefy gentlemen visiting all those homes. No, major election fraud is done by the authorities. In this election, that means Republicans falsified the presidential vote in most states while not falsifying down ballot races. And it means also that they conspired to do this across multiple jurisdictions, called states. Elections in the US are mostly rigged by things like setting up a Super Tuesday so only big money candidates can campaign in such a wide area or other corrupt but entirely legal means, such as making it hard for third parties to even get on the ballot.

There was one person who suggested the Democrats only rigged the close election states. The two problems with that are first, the polls didn't say the election would be that close in very many states at all. The second of course is that the Trumpers are claiming Trump won by a landslide, meaning most states were fixed, a self contradiction on their part.

[Dec 12, 2020] Supreme Court Tosses Texas Bid To Overturn Election - ZeroHedge

Dec 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

The Supreme Court on Friday tossed a last-minute bid by the state of Texas to overturn the 2020 election by challenging the results of four battleground states .

Citing a lack of standing, Justice Samuel Alito wrote in a brief order that the state " has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections ," adding "All other pending motions are dismissed as moot."

In doing so, the justices shut down a long-shot bid for Texas to challenge Biden's wins in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Wisconsin - which was joined by 17 other states and over 100 House Republicans.

[Dec 12, 2020] Wisconsin Hearing- Nursing Home Resident Said She Wanted to Vote For Trump - But Nursing Staff Member Said, -No by Cristina Laila

Dec 11, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Wisconsin Hearing: Nursing Home Resident Said She Wanted to Vote For Trump – But Nursing Staff Member Said, "No, He's a Bad Man. We're Voting For Biden" (VIDEO)

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The Wisconsin Assembly Committee on Campaigns and Elections and the Senate Committee on Elections, Ethics and Rural Issues on Friday held a joint public hearing to review the 2020 election.

President Trump was crushing Joe Biden in Wisconsin on election night when all of a sudden corrupt officials in Milwaukee stopped counting ballots.

A huge ballot dump in Wisconsin 100% for Joe Biden appeared at 4:30 in the morning AFTER election day.

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TRENDING: BREAKING: Now the Democrat Attorneys General Align with Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia - Nearly Every State Has Picked Sides

Where did all of these ballots for Joe Biden come from?

  • During Friday's hearing it was revealed that a nursing home resident in Wisconsin said she wanted to vote for President Trump, but a nursing staffer bullied her into voting for Joe Biden. The nursing home staff member said "No no. He's a bad man. We're voting for Biden," and instructed the resident to do so against her wishes.
  • Another 95-year-old woman who died in October 2020 of dementia after having a stroke also voted for Joe Biden.
  • In fact, the deceased woman's daughter gave a sworn statement to police after finding out her mother had voted in the 2020 election.
  • It is believed Joe Biden received hundreds of thousands, if not millions of votes from dead voters.

[Dec 11, 2020] CNN and MSNBC seem to be discovering the Texas constitutionalist case for the first time.

Dec 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.comFreespeaker 2 hours ago Freespeaker 2 hours ago

CNN and MSNBC seem to be discovering the Texas constitutionalist case for the first time.


They aren't happy.

[Dec 11, 2020] Missouri, 17 other states file supporting Texas suit to delay presidential elector appointment

Dec 11, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Missouri, 17 other states file supporting Texas suit to delay presidential elector appointment" foxnews


"Missouri led a group of 17 states that Wednesday afternoon filed a brief with the Supreme Court supporting the Texas lawsuit aimed at delaying the appointment of presidential electors from Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

The brief mirrors the argument of the Texas suit in saying that the states acted unconstitutionally when either their judiciaries or executive branches changed their elections laws. The Texas suit, and the states that support it, say that only state legislatures may set laws regarding how states appoint their presidential electors.

"The integrity of our elections is of critical importance to maintaining our republic, both today and in future elections," Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt said in a statement. "The stakes of protecting our Constitution, defending our liberty and ensuring that all votes are counted fairly couldn't be higher. With this brief, we are joining the fight."

The Trump campaign also filed a brief asking to join on the Texas suit on Wednesday.

"The illegal suspension or violation of state law thus calls directly into question the certification of the results of the elections in Defendant States for Vice President Joe Biden, Proposed Plaintiff in Intervention's opponent in the election," its brief said. "President Trump's interest in the outcome of this litigation could therefore not be more acute."

The brief filed by Missouri and the other states, which is officially a motion for leave to file a bill of complaint , also warns that the changes enacted by the state executives and judicial branches opened the states' elections up to potential fraud." foxnews

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It appears to me that the Democrats in all their varied glory have become subversive of the Constitution except in so far as it supports the creation of a sham republic like the Soviet Union. We will now see if SCOTUS will save us from that. pl


Fred , 09 December 2020 at 11:31 PM

"a sham republic like the Soviet Union."

All the unconstitutional 'stay at home orders', mask mandates and declaring businesses (almost uniformly small independent competitors of multinationals or other big business) 'non-essential' has been giving everyone a taste of Democratic Socialism. This is looking more and more like a Color Revolution in action. I notice that there's been essentially no action from the left's trained street thugs - Antifa/BLM. Just like they are held in reserve to explode at the most opportune time to create an excuse for the deep state to complete their takeover.

Bill H , 10 December 2020 at 01:01 AM

This is beginning to look like something that, maybe, the Supreme Court cannot ignore.

J , 10 December 2020 at 01:12 AM

Pence could reject contested electors under 12th Amendment

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/law-professors-pence-could-reject-contested-electors-under-12th-amendment

Tom , 10 December 2020 at 06:12 AM

I read that as more than a request to the scotus to stop the steal. Maybe I am reading to much into it, but it reads to me like an acknowledgment that should the four states not be held to constitutional account, then those 17 states will stop following the constitution as well. The very valid point was made that the constitution is essentially an agreement between the states. Either they all abide, or none will. If the scotus punts and Biden becomes president, it will not be of 50 states. Worse than that, over 75 million folks voted for Trump. This is a significant portion of the us population who are against this outcome. They will not sit quietly by and accept this outcome.

TheUnready , 10 December 2020 at 08:45 AM

A Chinese view on how America is actually run:

https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2020/12/theory-practice-of-grand-strategy-di.html

Degringolade , 10 December 2020 at 09:24 AM

I always try to spend time reading both sides. As I hang out here a lot, my views are pretty obvious, but I do spend time reading what the other side says.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/12/10/seeking-biggest-incident-voter-nullification-us-history-18-republican-ags-back-texas

They are presenting idea that eighteen States Attorneys General have requested the Supreme Court to review the results of a federal election as an attack on the constitution.

Run that by me again.

Last time I looked, the outline of how this was approached was put together by some pretty smart folks who have bothered to read the constitution.

JohninMK , 10 December 2020 at 02:46 PM


It might be even simpler. The following is a quote

Elections undecided by midnight are void & preempted by federal law – Foster v Love (1997; 9-0 Decision)

"When the federal statutes speak of 'the election' they plainly refer to the combined actions of voters and officials meant to make a final selection of an officeholder By establishing a particular day as 'the day' on which these actions must take place, the statutes simply regulate the time of the election, a matter on which the Constitution explicitly gives Congress the final say." Foster v. Love, 522 U.S. 67, 71-72 (1997)

https://yournews.com/2020/12/08/1956812/elections-undecided-by-midnight-are-void/

stueeeeeeeee , 10 December 2020 at 03:26 PM

Mark K Logan

The Texas lawsuit is not about voter fraud. It concerns the process of elections. Texas has a strong case. It is undeniable that the executive and judicial branches of the named states illegally changed election laws/procedures without legislative approval. The law is on Texas's side.

The problem is the remedy. The courts/SCOTUS do not want to invalidate the results. How can they rule in Texas's favor without invalidating the results? They can't. Their ruling will likely have lofty language that will pay lip service to federalism and state's rights and may even reproach the offending states, but will do nothing to change the results.

I believe the SCOTUS should invalidate the results, because election law/process was circumvented by the offending states. As a consequence and as Texas has asked, allow the state legislatures to appoint the electors.

All of this maybe for nothing. There is no guarantee that those state legislature appointed electors will vote for Trump, because the Republican party of the offending states have been complicit in allowing the illegal changes to election law/process. Here in GA, the Rep secretary of state and Rep governor had sign an illegal consent agreement with the Democrats that liberalized the absentee/mail in voting process. Rejection rates of ballots in the metro area fell from an average of 3% to 4% to 0.2%...even with fraudulent level of turnout.

Election is over. The coup was successful.

[Dec 11, 2020] Neoliberal Dems have spent four years dividing and gaslighting country with Russiagate. now chickens came home to roost

Dec 11, 2020 | www.rt.com

mickeyis007 26 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:04 PM

Trump may have triggered a civil war which will lead to the partition of the USA. The Hens are come home to roost. In the last 50 years the USA and Israel have caused civil wars in many countries in order to balkanize a.k.a break up nations into smaller states, which will be easier for control by the NWO. Modi and Shah are also balkanizing India.
BorisJava mickeyis007 21 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:09 PM
Its pretty clear that it was the democrats who triggered it by acting as they did for 4 years.
Ergocreative BorisJava 2 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:29 PM
Exactly! The Dems spent 4 years dividing the country and inciting real hate as much as the possibly can. They sponsored and organized violence around the election and now they feel like all that will just go away because they want it. Well,like they say, anyone can start a war but no one will know when and how it will end

[Dec 11, 2020] Democrats pushing mail voting for their advantage crossed the red line and delegitimized the elections

Dec 11, 2020 | www.rt.com

Methusellah 16 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:11 PM

It is one of the basic legal principles that the evidence that is not capable of being tested, in order to determine if it is true fact or not, that such evidence must be rejected. The same applies to the voting method: if it is not possible to positively determine that a ballot paper has been cast by an eligible elector that vote must not be counted. It is as simple as that.
Tom_Callan 1 hour ago 10 Dec, 2020 06:08 PM
When shown real evidence of fraud...the Dems cover their eyes and say ....'Where?'
RussianSpy222 28 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:00 PM
Joe Biden, representing the Republic of Atlantistan; Gavin Newsom, representing the Republic of Caliphornia; and Greg Abbott, representing the Republic of Tejas; will meet in conference in the Belovezh Forest. The agenda of the meeting has not been announced.
BeneElohim 16 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:11 PM
Sorry, for the Democrats to be this terrified that the truth might come out in the court of law and put on the record, shows us and proves fraud took place. They have no confidence in their victory for fraudulent reasons (They are guilty). Only criminal are scared to face Court proceedings. They know it was fraud, Jesus to Mary....... Biden, admitted it live on TV, like he always does.
Zeke Aln BeneElohim 6 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:21 PM
There is no limit to the corruption potential of democracy...beware!
Mickey Mic 40 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 06:47 PM
"We The American People" need to get past our obstreperous vociferousness, and engage in a revolutionary insurrection on all US. Institutions: House of Congress, Senators, Justice system, Governors, MSM, Big Tech, our armed tumultuous direction requires a massive amount of ebullition citizens. "We The People" have suffered long enough under their shadow authoritarianism, the grains in the hourglass is running out rapidly. If we don't purge the swamp monsters that have waged a global declaration war on the populace now, they will obtain more dominion over humanity that is far beyond the scope of general cognitive perceptions or comprehensions. They have unconstitutional dark mechanisms in motion, lurking, just beneath the surface unbeknownst to the public eye. Our civil liberties are fading like a moth to a flame; at the highest levels of our so called "Democracy" our very own constitution & Bill of Rights has no legal recourse against these scaly, satanic, lizard-Licking-shape-shifting Nazis. With an objectionable mind and a closer examination: One can clearly see we are in the midst of war with demonic dark forces that conspire to acquire ownership over human DNA. All of our God-giving Biological sovereignty will be replaced by their vaccination patents. Their true ambitions are to control our genetics with wireless remote devices including our Memories, Emotions, Thoughts, Hormones, and establish complete autonomy for the very few that will remain 100% human......
Jonboyconnell Mickey Mic 21 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:06 PM
Everything stated is solid facts
Mickey Mic Mickey Mic 39 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 06:48 PM
......PS: Don't laugh like a hyenas trolls; Study the patterns of hysterical, learn more about the potentiality of nanotechnology today, realize why Bill Gates owns patents with DARPA's (RAM) program. Understand why the soft conditioning with face masks, lock-downs, vaccination cards.
john muckles 46 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 06:42 PM
there's only one way to solve this dispute------send it to AIPAC for arbitration
VaimacaPiru john muckles 14 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:14 PM
HO John that was as funny as it gets!
ChinAnkhKhan 13 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:14 PM
creating all of this drama is not going to change the outcome...the reality is, no state can dictate what another state can do. PERIOD...states's rights are only lessened when it comes to FEDERAL RIGHTS, or the collection of states. but no ONE state can tell another state how to run their election....it is laughable....i mean, the logical extreme is basically those 18 states COMBINING to force their will on other states...that was already tried, didn't work out too well...
GaryDEllis ChinAnkhKhan 8 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:19 PM
Thats right. Other wise , democrats could get together and demand change in texas, florida, etc.
Blackace180 9 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:19 PM
Well, how you like them apples? SCOTUS has a very big, very hot potato to deal with. There's going to be a less than amicable decision made that may lead to a less than amicable secession from the union. One side argues the constitution says legislatures make election laws/rules, the other says yeah but we need wiggle room to deal with emergencies like the pandemic. The constitution doesn't give the wiggle room they want and have exercised, and they have had plenty of time to legislate their laws to facilitate any requirements due to the pandemic that stated in February. And, I don't see how not checking signatures and addresses alleviate or ease the pandemic. It is obvious the democrats used the pandemic to ease voting requirements to achieve a fraudulent election win for Beijing Biden. This outrage effects the entire country and Texas is justified in its appeal for a remedy. This outrage needs to be rectified by this court, here and now.
mickeyis007 23 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:04 PM
Trump may have triggered a civil war which will lead to the partition of the USA. The Hens are come home to roost. In the last 50 years the USA and Israel have caused civil wars in many countries in order to balkanize a.k.a break up nations into smaller states, which will be easier for control by the NWO. Modi and Shah are also balkanizing India.
mickeyis007 23 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:04 PM
Trump may have triggered a civil war which will lead to the partition of the USA. The Hens are come home to roost. In the last 50 years the USA and Israel have caused civil wars in many countries in order to balkanize a.k.a break up nations into smaller states, which will be easier for control by the NWO. Modi and Shah are also balkanizing India.

[Dec 11, 2020] Battle lines are being drawn as 44 US states pick sides in Texas-led Supreme Court election showdown

Dec 11, 2020 | www.rt.com

After 18 Republican-led states backed Texas in challenging presidential election procedures in four swing states, 22 jurisdictions led by Democrats sided with the defendants and social media buzzed about a second US 'civil war.'

There was a flurry of activity on the US Supreme Court docket 22O155 on Thursday, as Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin responded to the Texas complaint, Ohio filed a puzzling brief ostensibly backing neither side, a number of lawmakers also sought to join the case, all before the Democrat-led jurisdictions filed their own amici curiae brief.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has asked the court to block the seating of electors from the four swing states, arguing that they usurped the authority the Constitution gives legislators to change the election rules and make them vulnerable to fraud. President Donald Trump, who seeks to join the Texas lawsuit himself, has complained the states improperly declared Democrat Joe Biden the winner.

ALSO ON RT.COM 106 Republican lawmakers support Texas SCOTUS lawsuit against 'unconstitutional' election conduct

While the four states submitted their responses by the court-mandated deadline of 3pm on Thursday, Democrat-led jurisdictions mobilized legal troops for their defense. District of Columbia Attorney General Karl Racine led California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington – and the territories of US Virgin Islands and Guam – in the amicus brief seeking the dismissal of the Texas case.

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The Democrat amici argued that "state courts and local actors" should be able to "interpret and implement state election law" as the states need "sovereign ability to safely and securely accommodate voters in light of emergencies such as [Covid]-19."

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What Texas wants would "upend states' systems of government" they argued, adding that their "experiences with safe and secure methods of voting by mail" will explain why the case should be denied.

So far, a total of 18 Republican-led states have filed amicus briefs to support Texas. On Thursday, six of them – Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Utah – have asked to "intervene," that is join the case directly.

ALSO ON RT.COM 17 states file SCOTUS brief backing Texas challenge to Biden 'victory' in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania & Wisconsin

Caught in the middle of this legal war between the states was an odd motion by Ohio AG Dave Yost, a Republican. Officially "in support of neither party," Yost actually argued that the Texas case should be thrown out, but that the nine Justice should "issue a decision on the meaning of the Electors Clause at the earliest available opportunity."

"The importance of the public's constitutional doubts, however, pales in comparison to the importance of the public's concerns regarding basic fairness," Yost argued, in a strange turn of legal acumen.

As Arizona filed a separate amicus brief in support of Texas later on Wednesday, for much of the day the US mainstream media spoke of "17 states" involved in the dispute. To no one's surprise, angry Democrats drove Twitter trends such as #SeditiousSeventeen, denouncing the plaintiffs for wanting to "overturn" the election and stoking the next "civil war."

HipToTheJive 57 minutes ago 10 Dec, 2020 06:24 PM

Sorry Dems. It is unconstitutional to make elections laws without the legislature. That is the bottom line. Here is a quote from this article said by the Dems. "What Texas wants would "upend states' systems of government" they argued, adding that their "experiences with safe and secure methods of voting by mail" will explain why the case should be denied." The vote was definitely not safe or secure. Sorry Dems.
Ergocreative HipToTheJive 1 minute ago 10 Dec, 2020 07:21 PM
Pelosy said they were going to win whether by votes or not. They pulled the mailing ballots ten wait to see if it wont be challenged. Have you asked yourself why Zuckerberg "donated" $350M to be used mainly in the areas those disputes are arising from?

[Dec 11, 2020] BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: An Audit of DIGITALLY ADJUDICATED BALLOTS Would Easily Place Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin and Probably Michigan in the Trump Column by Joe Hoft

Dec 11, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com
There may be enough ballots adjudicated illegally in this year's election to move Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan to the Trump column. Enough states for Trump to win the election.

The process for curing and adjudicating ballots during an election takes some time. Individuals mailing in ballots with issues must be contacted and certain steps must take place. We noted this previously where our focus was on Georgia.

In a post on November 9th we wrote:

TRENDING: BREAKING: Now the Democrat Attorneys General Align with Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia - Nearly Every State Has Picked Sides

The deadline for receipt of absentee ballots in Georgia , per Georgia election law, is "no later than close of the polls on Election Day Ballots received after the polls close cannot be counted," this per the Georgia Secretary of State Election Division's Absentee Voting A Guide for Registered Voter s. This deadline was affirmed by an October 2 federal appeals court ruling, which stayed a lower court ruling from August 31, stemming from a lawsuit brought by leftist nonprofit the New Georgia Project (NGP), founded by Georgia Democrat activist and failed gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. NGP's lawsuit prevailed in extending the Georgia mail-in ballot receipt deadline for three additional days. However, on appeal, brought by the state of Georgia, Georgia election law held firm , with the higher court decisively re-establishing the deadline in 2020 as November 3, at the close of the polls.

Ignoring Georgia law , "start[ing] on Nov. 4, 2020, 2 p.m. and end[ing] Nov. 6, 2020, 5 p.m. EST," according to their PR, the Georgia Democratic Party began the deployment of trained teams of volunteer activist operatives – " Ballot Rescue Teams " – to do phone banking and also to travel Georgia's counties, knocking on people's front doors – only Democrats' front doors, that is – and cheerfully offering to help "cure" or fix absentee and mail-in ballots which, allegedly, had problems and were, allegedly, not being counted by county registrars.

In a video we inserted in a later post we wrote:

In the video in the post above, Mr. Jones ADMITTED that they were doing ballot curing!

We believe Georgia election law only allows ballot curing if the voter gets a call or contact from a GA election official. The law doesn't allow a Hillary Clinton operative to replace the election official's position. We don't believe Georgia election law allows ELECTRONIC curing of the ballot either, which is what the Democrat Ballot Curing Program did: they stated that the voter could email or text their ballot changes.

Thousands of ballots in Georgia were likely adjudicated electronically without underlying support to properly cure the ballot:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-exclusive-thousands-ballots-georgia-likely-cured-illegally-ralph-jones-sr-probably-knows-involved/embed/#?secret=4sJkqaK5C7

Arizona

Per the Populist Press – in an interview with Greg Kelly on Newsmax, Arizona Republican Chair Kelli Ward made the following statements about adjudicated ballots in that state:

There are over 1.9 million early ballots, absentee ballots. 28,000 of them are duplicated. Over 200,000 of them were digitally adjudicated. We haven't been able to look at one ballot, not one that was digitally adjudicated."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FbwBAPfbxLc?start=249&feature=oembed

Wisconsin

In Wisconsin before the election the Election Commission recommended an illegal remedy on absentee ballots as we pointed out:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/october-wisconsins-election-commission-recommended-illegal-remedy-absentee-ballots-thousands-may-thrown/embed/#?secret=5v9qtuEBVU

We also are aware of thousands of ballots reported in Dane County alone where ballots were handed in in pristine condition – how many of these required to be cured and how many were electronically adjudicated illegally?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/boom-president-trump-target-wisconsin-ballots-identified-pristine-condition-similar-fraudulent-ballots-georgia-michigan/embed/#?secret=EYxIn5tqlH

Michigan

In Michigan we also know of ballots coming in in pristine condition. How many of these were digitally adjudicated?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/going-truck-loads-ballots-coming-new-york-reported-last-night-tonight-michigan-poll-worker-reports-ballots-received-sequential-order/embed/#?secret=QKoUZ3EKlD

The Democrats do not want Americans to uncover their illegal ballots. Looking into the adjudicated ballots will uncover massive fraud.

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[Dec 11, 2020] GEORGIA EXCLUSIVE- Election Official Gabriel Sterling Admitted Hiring Counters from the far-left ACLU

Dec 11, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Georgia Election Official Gabe Sterling admitted earlier this year that he was targeting hiring the ACLU to help count votes in the 2020 Presidential election. The ACLU did more than that – is this connected to Gabe Sterling?

On November 26 we uncovered a video of Gabe Sterling discussing the 2020 election earlier in the year. He took credit for the ballot drop boxes and for recommending the hiring of individuals from the ACLU to help with the vote counting in Georgia during the election:

[Dec 11, 2020] BREAKING EXCLUSIVE- Thousands of Ballots in Georgia Were Likely 'Cured' Illegally, Ralph Jones Sr. Probably Knows Who Was Inv

Dec 11, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Thousands of Ballots in Georgia Were Likely 'Cured' Illegally, Ralph Jones Sr. Probably Knows Who Was Involved By Joe Hoft
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Thousands of ballots that were 'cured' in Georgia, likely they were 'cured' illegally.

We reported back on November 9th that numerous Democrat-led 'non-profits' were connected to likely illegal absentee ballot harvesting in Georgia after the 2020 election.

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In our article we reported that a totally under-the-radar and likely illegal Democratic absentee ballot-harvesting type of an operation was quietly executed in Georgia after Election Day, which may have secretly added just enough Democratic votes to tip the scales in this swing state against Republican President Donald Trump and for Joe Biden.

TRENDING: President Trump Tweets - "People Are Upset, and They Have a Right To Be... A Coup Is Taking Place In Front of Our Eyes."

We wrote:

The deadline for receipt of absentee ballots in Georgia , per Georgia election law, is "no later than close of the polls on Election Day Ballots received after the polls close cannot be counted," this per the Georgia Secretary of State Election Division's Absentee Voting A Guide for Registered Voter s. This deadline was affirmed by an October 2 federal appeals court ruling, which stayed a lower court ruling from August 31, stemming from a lawsuit brought by leftist nonprofit the New Georgia Project (NGP), founded by Georgia Democrat activist and failed gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. NGP's lawsuit prevailed in extending the Georgia mail-in ballot receipt deadline for three additional days. However, on appeal, brought by the state of Georgia, Georgia election law held firm , with the higher court decisively re-establishing the deadline in 2020 as November 3, at the close of the polls.

[Dec 11, 2020] A stay order is denied in the Pennsylvania Kelly case, but a new filing is planned by Robert Willmann

Dec 11, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

The request for a stay order or injunction against Pennsylvania in the solid case to declare unconstitutional the changes in 2019 that established full mail-in voting in that state was denied by the U.S. Supreme Court in a standard one-sentence order on Tuesday, 8 December 2020 [1]. Sometimes the Supreme Court will consider an application for an injunction or stay order as also being a request to agree to hear the case, and will accept the case for decision and set a briefing schedule. Or they may accept the case and grant relief without further briefing or argument. In this instance, the lawyer filing the request, Greg Teufel of Pittsburgh, also asked that the court consider the application in that vein: the court could use it to agree to hear the case. However, the court's order denied injunctive relief, and did not explicitly say that it was also denying a request to consider the case as a whole.

It is my understanding that a formal request asking the court to agree to hear the case on its merits will be filed.

The case was brought in Pennsylvania by U.S. Congressman Mike Kelly, candidate Sean Parnell, and six others. After the courageous Judge Patricia McCullough of the Commonwealth Court issued a preliminary injunction against certifying the election results pending an evidentiary hearing, the intellectually corrupt Pennsylvania Supreme Court stepped in and dismissed the case with prejudice, so that the constitutional issue could not be decided and the case could not be re-filed in Pennsylvania [2].

[1] The U.S. Supreme Court order denying a stay order or injunction.

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/penn_statecase_order_deny_injunction.pdf

[2] https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/12/the-powerful-lawsuit-in-state-court-on-the-pennsylvania-voting-process.html

[Dec 10, 2020] Sidney Powell to Appeal Dismissal of Georgia Lawsuit

Notable quotes:
"... U.S. District Court Judge Timothy Batten ruled the case had no standing to sue, the case belonged in state court, and was filed too late. ..."
"... "There's no question that Georgia has a statute that explicitly directs that elections contests be filed in Georgia Superior Court," Judge Batten, a President George W. Bush appointee, said in his ruling. "They are state elections. State courts should evaluate these proceedings from start to finish." ..."
Dec 10, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

After a federal judge dismissed lawyer Sidney Powell's election fraud lawsuit Monday in Georgia, Powell told The Epoch Times she plans to appeal and "proceed as fast as possible to the Supreme Court."

U.S. District Court Judge Timothy Batten ruled the case had no standing to sue, the case belonged in state court, and was filed too late.

"There's no question that Georgia has a statute that explicitly directs that elections contests be filed in Georgia Superior Court," Judge Batten, a President George W. Bush appointee, said in his ruling. "They are state elections. State courts should evaluate these proceedings from start to finish."

[Dec 10, 2020] Cruz Offering to Argue Pa. Election Lawsuit Before US Supreme Court - Newsmax.com

Dec 10, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

Cruz was especially critical of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's dismissal on the procedural ground.

"Even more persuasively, the plaintiffs point out that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has also held that plaintiffs don't have standing to challenge an election law until after the election, meaning that the court effectively put them in a Catch-22: before the election, they lacked standing; after the election, they've delayed too long," Cruz said . "The result of the court's gamesmanship is that a facially unconstitutional election law can never be judicially challenged.

Cruz also on Monday filed a friend of the court brief – along with 10 of his Senate colleagues – in Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich's case challenging the Democratic National Committee's stance that the Voting Rights Act bans state laws limiting absentee voting. among other measures.

[Dec 10, 2020] Biden election success 'not statistically impossible, but statistically IMPLAUSIBLE,' pollster says -- RT USA News

Dec 10, 2020 | www.rt.com

Biden election success 'not statistically impossible, but statistically IMPLAUSIBLE,' pollster says 7 Dec, 2020 15:57 Get short URL Patrick Basham, founder of research organization the Democracy Institute, broke down the "implausibility" of Joe Biden's presumed presidential victory for Fox News, as Donald Trump continues to insist there's "no way" he lost.

Joe Biden's apparent victory over the incumbent Trump is "statistically implausible," Basham told Mark Levin on Sunday night during 'Life, Liberty & Levin', describing a lot of processes that went against all expectations during the elections.

He says that the Democrat defied the "non-polling metrics," which Basham claims have "a 100 percent accuracy rate," including "how the candidates did in their respective presidential primaries, the number of individual donations, [and] how much enthusiasm each candidate generated in the opinion polls."

Trump, who with over 74 million votes is considered to have the second-best performance of any candidate in history (as Biden is said to have over 80 million), has alleged that fraudulent ballots in key swing states like Pennsylvania and Georgia led to Biden's apparent victory. Basham cited a "historically low ballot rejection rate" as a possible factor behind the president losing reelection.

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"Rejection rates, which in the primaries earlier this year were well into the double-digits and which historically have often been very, very high in these key swing states, or at least in the key swing counties, we're seeing rejection rates of less than one percent, often very close to to zero," he said.

With a major increase in absentee ballots due to the Covid-19 pandemic, it is "implausible," based on voter experience in the area, that so few ballots would be rejected, Basham theorized.

Also shedding a questionable light on Biden's victory, the pollster added, is Trump's own performance, which was unusually strong for an incumbent candidate.

"If you look at the results, you see how Donald Trump improved his national performance over 2016 by almost 20 percent," he said. "No incumbent president has ever lost a reelection bid if he's increased his votes [total]. Obama went down by three and a half million votes between 2008 and 2012, but still won comfortably."

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J_P_Franklin 12 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 11:24 AM

"Basham cited a " historically low ballot rejection rate " as a possible factor behind the president losing reelection." What is normally done was not done to get rid of Trump. Republicans did it too. Those swing states have Republican legislatures who can still stop the coup but won't. This is a Republican coup against Trump.
Wazzup 12 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 11:18 AM
Yes its clear that the election was rigged massively. However in the west its not the voters who choose the leaders so vote rigging is par to the course.
Banalucki Wazzup 5 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 06:18 PM
Who is the "they" that voted in President Adams who said, "Avarice, ambition, revenge, and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." This situation has moved way past control by political propaganda - especially since it is a very hot war with germ warfare, lockdowns, rioting, and now a "what you gonna do 'bout it?" arrogance from the "gig" economy Orks, imho.
Banalucki Wazzup 5 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 06:18 PM
Who is the "they" that voted in President Adams who said, "Avarice, ambition, revenge, and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." This situation has moved way past control by political propaganda - especially since it is a very hot war with germ warfare, lockdowns, rioting, and now a "what you gonna do 'bout it?" arrogance from the "gig" economy Orks, imho.
MotorSlug Wazzup 9 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 02:30 PM
rigged against Bernie
shadow1369 12 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 11:20 AM
There is not a shadow of doubt that the DNC rigged the outcome of the election.
Mickey Mic 11 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 12:36 PM
This election wasn't designed to be fair. The Democrats have been stacking the deck, pushing the vote-by-mail process, using the virus as the excuse and claiming polling places disenfranchise the poor. They also continue to use the virus to keep the country held down and preventing it from emerging out of the financial hole we've been placed in. Those points are valid and true. What is also true is the big three tech companies have for years, but accelerated in 2020, their form of censorship and manipulation. Google, Facebook and Twitter are doing all they can to control content away from conservative ideals and push their liberal agenda using the full strength of their monopoly-controlled information source. Add to the mix ballot harvesting and Electoral College manipulation, and the fix is in. Much like Patrick Basham their only remaining factor is ... "There's no evidence !" closing the eyes and yelling LALALALALALALALA !?!?!? PS: Perhaps Mr. Basham has his CDL license & drove off with truck loads full of ballots meant for Trump ? One thing is sure, he could've driven all of the reported missing trucks.
BeneElohim 10 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 01:06 PM
No solid evidence for the wars the US. waged. But solid evidence of voter fraud is not allowed in Court system or the MSM. This is so corrupt it will make Sept. 11 2001 a little jealous, just a little, but the same tactics are in play by the same people, their mission is similar routine " NO forensic Investigations " are allowed for obvious reasons.
Fuhrer_Bojo 12 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 11:48 AM
With a population of 328 million and only 154 million voting one has to ask how either side can claim victory, the majority of people decided they didn't want either in charge, in a democracy the majority opinion should be respected.....
sunev Fuhrer_Bojo 6 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 05:29 PM
There are over 74 Million children under 18 in the USA who can't vote. There are over 3 million prisoners who have lost their right to vote. There are 47 million foreigners living in the USA. A lot of them do not have citizenship, so they have no right to vote. So you have a maximum of 124 million adults who are not entitled to vote, which means from 328 million a possible 124 million couldn't vote. 154 million from 204 million who were entitled to vote voted. That's over 75% of the voting population! That is a huge turnout!
Gerald Newton 3 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 08:57 PM
Ware County, Ga has broken the Dominion algorithm: Using sequestered Dominion Equipment, Ware County ran a equal number of Trump votes and Biden votes through the Tabulator and the Tabulator reported a 26% lead for Biden. 37 Trump votes used in the equal sample run had been "Switched" from Trump to Biden. In actual algorithmic terms this means that a vote for Trump was counted as 87% of a vote and a vote for Biden was counted as 113% of a vote. Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared. ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SOLVED. (It is worth noting that this was one County, and on one Tabulator alone. Dominion Tabulators could have been configured with different algorithms in different Counties or States.) In Michigan 22 Dominion machines have bee turned over to the Trump lawyers for forensic analysis.
MeNot 12 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 11:38 AM
No one with any common sense wanted a corrupt & senile old man that is known for sexually harassing females and a side kick that got her jobs by way of sexual favors ( Heels Up) to be elected for anything. The election in the USA was clearly rigged and a fraud.
RationalNut 6 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 05:17 PM
There are people who think Biden cheated. There are people who think Trump cheated. These contentions can and should be resolved by auditing the votes in swing states (or in all states if resources for that can be found). Are both sides in favor of an audit? Hmmm....
Franc RationalNut 4 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 07:10 PM
The democrats have been trying to shove Biden through the door since election night. They refuse or attack any attempts at investigation, and they intimidate or threaten any who try to speak out. Where's the transparency? If they aren't guilty, they should have nothing to worry about.
Silence_Dogood Anastasia Deko 9 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 02:47 PM
Biden won a measly 477 counties, Trump won a resounding 2947 counties...
Waytame 9 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 02:45 PM
Where's the evidence, Trump campaign? Count cases are being lost left and right because none seems to materialize. It's just one debunked claim after the other.
Franc Waytame 4 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 07:08 PM
The evidence is on the camera, and also in the hundreds of sworn affidavits across the swing states. (Which carry a huge penalty if lied on) Everyone knows this election was a sham, the only difference is how long it takes some people to stop lying to themselves.
AndrewMacDon Waytame 6 hours ago 7 Dec, 2020 05:14 PM
Your refusal to accept the masses of evidence; sworn testimony, video, statistical, etc, is mereley an act of wilfull deceit. The fact you won't accept what constitutes the legal standard of what is evidence, while screaming "where's the evidence", doesn't make you smart. It means you are disenfranchising 74 million who are xtremely angry, have been extremely parient and law abiding, and are now no longer going to pkay along with your games while you gaslight them. The Republican electorate have played nice with you unreasonable liars for too long. I believe that is going to change. Remember, things unfolded, the leftist refusal to tell the truth and play by the rules, is what led you to where you are. You threw out democracy with this fraud. You threw out the rules. Enjoy the consequences.

[Dec 10, 2020] GOP Congressman Introduces 'You Must Be Alive To Vote Act'

Dec 10, 2020 | www.westernjournal.com

Texas Republican Rep. Brian Babin has proposed the 'You Must Be Alive To Vote Act', a bill that is intended to crack down on alleged instances of people using names of the deceased in order to vote.

The goal of the bill is to have states check the Social Security Administration's death records and purge the deceased from voter rolls.

"The ease with which someone is able to steal the ballot of a deceased person and cast an illegitimate vote should disturb, alarm, and outrage every American citizen, no matter what side of the aisle they sit on," Babin said, according to a news release from his office.

[Dec 10, 2020] 2060 Verified Dead Absentee Voters in Wayne County Michigan, how many more are there

Dec 10, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Approximately 566,958 people voted absentee in Wayne County, where Detroit is located, in the 2020 general election. 2060 appear to have been dead.

... if accurate, that there may have been a systemic campaign underway to cast ballots even among people who were deceased.

[Dec 10, 2020] Federalist's Hemmingway- Georgia Video Not Debunked by Brian Trusdell

Dec 07, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

The Federalist's senior editor Mollie Hemingway is ridiculing several news outlets that claim Republican accusations of questionable behavior by Fulton County election officials at State Farm Arena, purportedly caught on video, had been debunked, rebutting the reports with affidavits and even other news reports.

Hemingway, 46, the author of "Justice on Trial," about the Senate hearings of Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court, dismissed a report by "Lead Stories" and then The Washington Post, Newsweek, and others, which appeared to anoint government officials as the sole arbiters of whether anything nefarious occurred.

At issue: a video that purportedly showed a handful of election workers telling observers and other ballot counters to leave State Farm Arena in the evening because of burst water pipe. Once the room was cleared, the remaining election officials uncovered suitcase-like containers from under draped tables -- containers alleged to contain thousands of ballots that were then processed without the observers on hand.

Lead Stories , The Washington Post , and others quoted election officials as saying no one was asked to leave and characterizing the activity as normal.

[Dec 10, 2020] Fulton County officials illegally accepted more than $6 million in private grants that imposed conditions on the conduct of elections without authority from the state legislature

Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Yog Soggoth 38 minutes ago

"Fulton County officials illegally accepted more than $6 million in private grants that imposed conditions on the conduct of elections without authority from the state legislature." Follow the private grants to the election interference.

snowshooze 28 minutes ago

And so I read thay purchased ballot counters?

Waitaminute... you can't bring your own gear into an election...

Rich Stoehner 1 hour ago

Kamika Harris will smooth it out.

[Dec 10, 2020] Arizona Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Election Challenge After Investigation of 100-Ballot Sample Finds 3% of the Ballots Were Deemed Fraudulent in Favor of Biden

Dec 10, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

The GOP filed a lawsuit in Arizona to audit a sample of 100 ballots to prove there was massive voter fraud.

The Arizona GOP last Wednesday announced the findings from their investigation of 100 duplicate ballots, in which TWO votes were discovered to have been altered and removed from President Trump's total.

One ballot was changed from Trump to Biden and another ballot was completely taken away from President Trump.

This is a 3% margin of fraud in Biden's favor (2 votes taken away from Trump and one added to Biden).

The Arizona Supreme Court could rule on the case as early as this evening or tomorrow.

...

Fox News calling Arizona for Joe Biden gave cover to the corrupt Democrat machine in Maricopa County to produce enough ballots for Biden to backfill the number of votes projected by Fox News.

Arizona Republicans gathered on Monday and called for the decertification of the state's false election results .

[Dec 10, 2020] Hackers break into voting machines 2017

Dec 10, 2020 | youtu.be

MSNBC A Call For Courage From Republicans CNN We watched hackers break into voting machines 2017
https://youtu.be/ueUjWBZ73l0

[Dec 10, 2020] BREAKING EXCLUSIVE- Michigan Attorney Gives Behind the Scenes Update on the IT Inspection of the Antrim County Dominion Machi

Dec 10, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

In his lawsuit, Matthew DePerno claims that based on the evidence they have provided to the court that Dominion Voting Systems "committed material fraud or error in this election so that the outcome of the election was affected."

At 5:30 PM on Friday, December 4, 13th Circuit Court Judge Kevin A. Elsenheimer granted permission to William Bailey and his team of IT experts to conduct a forensic study of the 16 Dominion voting machines, tabulators, thumb drives, related software, and the Clerk's "master tabulator." In his court order, Bailey was also granted the ability to conduct an independent investigation of the images they obtained in their examination. According to DePerno, it would take approximately 6 to 8 hours to obtain the forensic copies, and it made sense to do the work on the weekend when most government employees and residents would not be in the building.

Matthew DePerno was able to quickly assemble a team of seven highly trained forensic IT experts who agreed to arrive the next day (Saturday) to conduct the forensic examination.

Following Judge Elsenheimer's order for the forensic examination of the Dominion Voting machines, the unelected Township Administrator Peter Garwood informed Mr. Bailey that he would not allow the machines to be accessed until Monday at 11:00 am. DePerno explained that Garwood also contacted Dominion officials and suggested they come to the Antrim County building where the court-ordered examination was to take place. As a result, DePerno and his client, William Bailey, were tasked with ensuring that the Dominion equipment inside the Antrim County building wouldn't be tampered with before the team's arrival. According to DePerno, Garwood was told by several elected county commissioners to stand down and allow the examination to take place over the weekend. A group of patriots from northern Michigan answered Mr. Bailey's call for help. For two days and nights, in freezing cold weather, the group of brave, volunteer patriots stood ready and willing to protect the precious sanctity of our vote. On Sunday morning, the seven-people IT forensic team arrived; Mr. Bailey and his attorney Matt DePerno were given access to the county building and started gathering the forensic evidence. Shortly after the collection began, Antrim County Administrator Peter Garwood began to take photos of the seven IT experts. When one of the IT team members saw him taking photos of them, they demanded Garwood delete them from his phone. According to DePerno, Garwood reluctantly deleted them. While he couldn't say for certain, DePerno believes Garwood was attempting to dox the highly-skilled IT forensic experts. Several photos of Mr. DePerno's vehicle were taken by outside protesters as well.

[Dec 10, 2020] Here's the first fornesic proof of Dominion Voting algorythmic voter manipulation

Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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otschelnik 19 hours ago

Here's the first fornesic proof of Dominion Voting algorythmic voter manipulation. It doesn't look like much (37 vote switch in Georgia's smallest county) but since nobody is getting access to the machines or software, and state voting commissions are hurrying to erase existing data - it's the first proof the Powell/Wood allegations.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/06/georgia-yall-got-a-problem/

Loco Hum 19 hours ago

Well, election tampering is a felony. So why hasn't a SINGLE ONE of these criminals been put in handcuffs?

El Hosel 15 hours ago

It's not tampering when the deciders make important decisions on National Security Matters.

also see : Remove the Orange Risk at all cost

[Dec 06, 2020] This Needs Answers -- CCTV Video Of Georgia Poll Workers Sparks Election Fraud Outrage

Dec 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Disturbing election night footage has emerged showing Georgia poll workers waiting for observers and news outlets to leave State Farm Arena in Atlanta after calling an end to counting for the night, before pulling out several large suitcases containing ballots from under a table.

The footage, presented by an attorney working with Republicans during a Thursday state Senate hearing, is perhaps the strongest direct evidence of potential fraud, and demands serious inquiry. In it, a handful of poll workers can clearly be seen staying behind after GOP observers say they were told to clear out . After the media packs up their belongings, the workers can be seen pulling out the suitcases and opening them at approximately 11 p.m.

Of note, earlier in the day, counting was paused for approximately 90 minutes due to what officials blamed on a 'water main break' - which turned out to be a lie, and was in fact a 'slow leak,' according to news.com.au .

Here are two segments of the clip, which we recommend watching on full screen (as well as watching the full video):

First, watch the media in the lower-right quadrant at the long table at 10:40 p.m.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/keANzinHWUA?start=425

Second, watch what happens roughly 20 minutes later:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/keANzinHWUA?start=545

And so we ask; if this isn't election fraud, what is it? We're sure Snopes will say they were having a midnight snack, but people have questions.

[Dec 05, 2020] From this moment on I'll be the new POTUS! Guaido should support me

Highly recommended!
www.rt.com

Ironmanx 55 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:26 PM

From this moment on I'll be the new POTUS, as there is no democratic election possible! Guaido should support me.
TheFishh Ironmanx 41 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:41 PM
Let's just have Guiado be president. After all, he was anointed by St. Trump Himself.
Brayar 1 hour ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:14 PM
The election was stolen. Even most Democratic voters are realizing this. The only people still denying the fraud are the media, big tech, and those who are in on the fraud.
Jeffrey Perkins 51 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:37 PM
ok then..now the citizens of the usa need a group of countries to come liberate us
Ibmekon Jeffrey Perkins 26 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 06:02 PM
Whoa, hold your horses ! Remember the CIA "regime change play book"...
Lansman7 1 hour ago 4 Dec, 2020 05:24 PM
The US election may not have been 'stolen', but if this happened in any other nation America would brand it illegitimate and bomb the hell out of its citizens FIFY
Ibmekon Lansman7 25 minutes ago 4 Dec, 2020 06:06 PM
.if it had happened elsewhere, it would probably have CIA fingerprints all over it.

[Dec 05, 2020] -Georgia on my mind- - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Dec 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has launched investigations into several groups, including one founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, for seeking to "aggressively" register "ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters" before the state's Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections.

Raffensperger's office on Wednesday said the investigations are into groups including America Votes, Vote Forward and The New Georgia Project -- which was founded by Abrams and previously chaired by Democratic Senate candidate Raphael Warnock.

GEORGIA SENATE RUNOFF SPURS ELECTION PROBE OF GROUPS TRYING TO REGISTER OUT-OF-STATE VOTERS

Raffensperger for weeks has issued warnings against efforts to register individuals who are ineligible to vote in Georgia's runoff elections or to encourage people to come to Georgia with the sole purpose of casting ballots.

"I have issued clear warnings several times to groups and individuals working to undermine the integrity of elections in Georgia through false and fraudulent registrations, " Raffensperger said in a statement Wednesday. "The security of Georgia's elections is of the utmost importance."

Raffensperger said Wednesday that his office has "received specific evidence that these groups have solicited voter registrations from ineligible individuals who have passed away or live out of state ."

"I will investigate these claims thoroughly and take action against anyone attempting to undermine our elections," he vowed. foxnews

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Raffensberger stated in a TeeVee presser yesterday that his household has received three absentee ballot application forms addressed to his son who has been dead for two years. These invitations to voter fraud were sent by Stacy Abrams' group, the New Georgia Project. Raffensberger held up the post card style application forms for all to see.

It looks like it will be a rainy day in Georgia. pl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL3EZwSJAh0

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/voter-group-founded-by-stacey-abrams-under-investigation-seeking-out-of-state-dead

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JerseyJeffersonian , 03 December 2020 at 11:01 AM

Raffensberger has, with this head fake, slightly modulated his rush to certification, which he has been insisting is a done deal heretofore.

This is a good sign, but only a minor advance, in my estimation. It's a "limited hangout", scarcely deflecting this partisan hack from advancing the overall vote theft.

But it is hilarious that three spurious ballot solicitations for his dead son came to his house. A glimpse of what life would have been like had Stacy "bring out your dead" Abrams been elected governor. Raffensberger, shitlib that he might be, got mugged by the ugly reality; so he jumped out in front of this and pretended he was leading some sort of Parade For Vote Integrity. Don't be taken in.

fakebot , 03 December 2020 at 12:20 PM

I read Lin Wood, who famously represented the heroic Olympics security guard falsely accused of the 1996 Atlanta bombing, is asking Republicans not to vote in the Georgia Senate run-off. Sounds like he's trying to play hard ball with Republicans and force them to confront voter fraud allegations.

james , 03 December 2020 at 11:34 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7BZf7D5Bw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFatAWbKow4

[Dec 05, 2020] Watch- President Trump Delivers His -Most Important Speech Ever

Trump's speech looks like a clear declaration of willingness to cross the Rubicon - or perhaps more appropriately to meet the persons having already done so by fixing the election, in battle.
Trump J'accuse. It amazing to see US President speak honestly. I think it's official: we have a Constitutional crisis on our hands.
Only paper ballots and no machine can provide honest elections. Presence of electronic voting machines is a already a form of fraud.
Dec 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Deck 20 hours ago

I hired trump in 2016 to deal with this. To fire the bad people and hire good people and drain the swamp. He did nothing about it.

There is no excuse why Bill Barr is running the justice department, no excuse why Pompeo is running plush, private deals for global business though the state dept and the Goldman Sachs guys are stripping the wealth of this country and handing it to wall st.

You are making excuses. Trump hired these people. There is no swamp being drained.

Life of Illusion 20 hours ago (Edited)

she will tell you what needs to be done

GO.. DR LINDA TARVER

https://www.nfrw.org/tarver

start 16min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCWE9Qi84I8&ab_channel=PTNewsNetwork

Dr. Linda Lee Tarver Testifies to What is Really Happening in Michigan!!!

pissonmefico 17 hours ago (Edited) remove link

The money changers, Wall Street, and Corporate America are and will always be in control of the Federal Government, so why do 99.9% of you here keep calling this communism? Because you've been deceived to think it even though you know who runs the show - which is an unbelievable feat. It's FASCISM! - go get an effing dictionary and quit being duped making YOU their main asset.

BigCumulusClouds 20 hours ago

Trump did not mention Haspel's arrest or her being at gitmo.

Dying-Of-The-Light 18 hours ago

Been saying the same since this sick joke of an election came to pass. If the forces of all things Demontard and Deep State, along with the MSM and social media sites, are allowed to so easily steal this election and get away with it then USA citizens will soon enjoy as much liberty as Chinese citizens.

I have stated again and again that if the lying, senile, China bribed Biden has the nerve to hold the bible in one hand on inauguration day, then all hard working USA citizens should refuse to pay any income tax. If that inauguration goes ahead then I hope millions of American citizens will turn up in Washington to protest its legality.

Nona Yobiznes 18 hours ago remove link

They don't want their viewers to learn about it. This is a DNC directive. Check out the Veritas 9am call CNN leaks. One of the "journalists" said as much.

Carlin was RIGHT 19 hours ago

Barr is Swamp personified. If his lips are moving, he's lying.

Chupacabra 20 hours ago

Barr is deep state, always has been. He is there solely to obstruct, much like Wray and Haspell. He is far worse than just useless. I'm glad more people are waking up to that fact.

By the way, his Dad gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job. Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

brer_vole 20 hours ago

So the AP story headline is inconsistent with what they claim as his statement " Barr told the AP that U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they've received, but "to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election." "

As the story probagated - the headline was further changed and then even the quote was changed.

told_ya_so 20 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Too many posters here just dismiss the concept that there was any election malfeasance. The problem with this is that its pure conscious dissonance - just choosing to see your point of view despite real evidence to the contrary. Regardless of who you actually vote for why wouldn't you have a smidgen of curiousity about the things that have gone on. The most blatant has been votes disappearing from Trump in realtime on the news feeds.

There are too many testimonies; too many high profile people staking their careers on saying the election looks suspect to just dismiss the notion outright. And even if they are wrong (and that's a big f*cking if), wouldn't you want to know that your guy got in legitimately? Because from now on the other side are going to have to play just as dirty as the Dems did to have a hope in hell of staying in existance.

Welfarebum 19 hours ago

I'm watching and reading from Canada. I've gone through all the evidence. It's death by a thousand cuts... Distributed corruption designed to collectively achieve a coup against a standing president. The mainstream media and Big Tech have subverted the truth. Average people around me are completely unaware of the corruption. All they think is "orange man bad" because they are subject to anti-Trump propaganda nightly on the TV news. It makes me sick to my stomach.

The US is not a democracy. Not a republic. It's run by crony-capitalist totalitarianism and the various US intelligence agencies are all on-board. What's transpiring is a massive battle of good versus evil. My entire world-view has changed. With the US falling, all the other democracies will also fail. My children will live under a CCP-like government.

My dad fought in WW2 as a fighter pilot for freedom - not for these crooks and their master plan to enslave us all under an authoritarian world government.

Republicans can't let this stand. It they submit, it will be the end of freedom. Trump has the police on his side. And much of the military. The country needs to be saved by the patriots.

Dickweed Wang 20 hours ago

Court have laughed at him 39 times already. It's over.

If you're referring to court rulings regarding the election you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Trump's legal team has only filed three lawsuits so far regarding the election and all of them are currently active. It's not "over" until CONgress meets and approves the results of the election on January 6th and at this point it may go on beyond that due to the preponderance of evidence showing widespread and systemic fraud during the election.

BTW . . . It's 'Courts' not 'Court'

chiquita 19 hours ago

I've been saying this for a while. The cheating is going to come home to roost regardless of how this ends up. NOBODY is going to be happy about it when the whole country finally sees and accepts the truth of it. It won't be shrugged off as business as usual or "there's always cheating in elections". Not after this.

IF Biden somehow gets installed as president, his presidency will always be tainted--it will be just like when you see those baseball players with an asterisk next to their stats. You know the ones who did the steroids in order to get higher homerun hits or some other advantage. It won't be a matter of having won fair and square and everybody is going to know about it. No amount of calling Trump a sore loser is going to whitewash what the DNC did or make Biden a good president. When the real stories about just how corrupt Biden and his family are that will make people even angrier if he's sitting in the Oval Office.

Better hope for many reasons that Trump wins his challenges because it will be bumpy, but a much easier ride in the long run.

Justus_Americans 13 hours ago

Trump's most important speech was properly named it showed our broken election system and fake news
https://youtu.be/Vxa4EUpF4wU

Thutmoses 13 hours ago (Edited)

Trump is giving the courts and Legislatures space to do their job.

[Dec 05, 2020] A widespread but poorly executed plot

Dec 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

We watched the quadripartite building security camera show last night on several TeeVee news shows. You know, the one in which the poll workers shoo the GOP poll watchers and press out of the big counting room at the Farm State Arena and then pull suit cases of something out from under a table and get to counting.

Several interesting things about this; 1. They all seem to have been pre-briefed and are acting as a team, 2. They seem oblivious of the permanent security cameras in the room, 3. The GOP somehow obtained these tapes. Outraged security guard maybe?

The governator of Georgia, a one time Trumpista, now says that maybe, maybe something bad happened in that room, maybe. And maybe, maybe, there should be an audit.

It seems to be the case that a lot of effective skullduggery happened in quite a few states in this election, but it was poorly and clumsily done. A lot of it was more or less in plain sight if one had eyes to see. Truck drivers were tasked to haul pallets of Biden ballots from place to place. Biden ballots were run through counting machines ten times. Remarkable! Magic computer networks!

This sounds to me to be something like a plot cooked up by a group of self important but not too clever Ivy grads sitting around at somewhere like ... Brooklyn?

"We could do this" one cries out! "We could make it happen!"

So, the concept was great, but the execution was piss poor (army talk). This may bite them in the ass yet. (more army talk) pl


EEngineer , 04 December 2020 at 12:41 PM


A link to an article with the videos themselves because anyone you forward this post to that only watches CNN will have never seen it:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cctv-video-georgia-poll-workers-sparks-election-fraud-outrage


JohninMK , 04 December 2020 at 12:46 PM

The arena is owned by the Atlanta Fulton County Recreation Authority whose parent seems to be Atlanta City Council. However whilst they own it the site is operated by the Atlanta Hawks NBA team. This would likely make the security control center for the site in the Hawks' hands. No doubt if it had been staffed with council staff this video would have been wiped as many others probably were around the country.

Maybe the videoed team, which I thought, like you wrote Colonel, were well trained, knew their tasks and were operating very well, saw the cameras and assumed that, as they were in an ACC property, another team had them under control. Little did they know.

Per/Norway , 04 December 2020 at 02:35 PM

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/ruby-breaking-crooked-democrat-filmed-pulling-suitcases-ballots-georgia-identified/

"What's Up, Ruby? BREAKING: Crooked Operative Filmed Pulling Out Suitcases of Ballots in Georgia IS IDENTIFIED"

Where are the federal law enforcement agencies, why is this woman and her companions not arrested?

blue peacock , 04 December 2020 at 02:50 PM

The real question is if any state legislature or the courts will take action on these allegations? The clock is ticking with December 14th as the date for certifying electors.

Barbara Ann , 04 December 2020 at 04:24 PM


blue peacock

Seems to me the real question is what action Trump may take in such an eventuality. His speech on Wednesday made it pretty clear he considers this an existential issue for the Republic. If this is your thinking do you let judicial inertia stand in your way? Does Trump have a reputation for being rules-bound?

Also, I came across an interesting article on Constitutional whatiffery which is looking increasingly prescient. It covers the eventuality of the vote being contested beyond the safe harbor date - section entitled "The Electoral Count":

https://americanmind.org/salvo/what-happens-if-no-one-wins/

[Dec 05, 2020] So far the best collection links of Georgia certification challenge I could find

Dec 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

enigma , Dec 3 2020 19:23 utc | 26

Dedicated to music lovers around with Georgia on my mind .

So far the best link collection I found. Yes not so easy to read "legalese", but hearings are more easy to understand.

Let's see if I can copy this, yes works:
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Otherwise, I would like to offer you one link only. Ok maybe two?

Hearing, poor judge, watch Kraken Powell::
ttps://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/20-11-29-Pearson-v-Kemp-120cv4809-F-1.pdf

In case you haven't looked into "Georgia on my mind".#

So far the best collection link I could find.

https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/georgia-certification-challenge/

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Ok strictly in the larger context a judgment by judge Amy Totenberg, may be of interest:
I don't have the link to the decision at hand, but at the end of her 146-page long decision she admonished the admin to make sure, ironically enough, to make sure the case wouldn't fall on the court's doorsteps again.

At that point no doubt time was running out. But the admin nevertheless didn't make sure the system was hardened and hired a couple of pen-testers or white hats to at least test it? ....

https://www.govtech.com/elections/Federal-Judge-Denies-Effort-to-End-Touchscreen-Voting-in-Georgia.html

*******
Now that's the kind of information that is censored in some intel expert innocent blogs

[Dec 05, 2020] Native Americans votes were supposedly bought in Arizona. Can they change the results in Georgia runoffs?

Dec 05, 2020 | www.nytimes.com

Very few of Georgia's more than 100,000 voting-age Native Americans cast ballots in November. Even a small increase could make a difference in the Senate runoffs.

Based on a New York Times analysis of precinct data, President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. received more than 80 percent of the roughly 55,000 votes cast in the Arizona portion of the Navajo Nation -- the country's largest tribe -- and in the smaller Hopi Reservation, which shares precincts with the Navajo.

That alone could account for Mr. Biden's 10,500-vote margin of victory over President Trump in Arizona, even before looking at his strong support among other tribes there, like the Tohono O'odham Nation, which has been enraged by the president's efforts to build his border wall through tribal land.

[Dec 05, 2020] Obama Judge in Nevada Denies Trump Campaign's Lawsuit - Ignores 20 Books Full of Evidence

Dec 05, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Pwesident Ewect Fweddy Fwintso 11 minutes ago ,

Every time I see this it makes me wonder what they got on Jimmy Russell. I wonder how many trips he made to Epstein island.

[Dec 05, 2020] Georgia Governor Brian Kemp calls for audit after state certifies election results - CBS News

Dec 05, 2020 | www.cbsnews.com

Georgia's Republican Governor Brian Kemp certified the state's election results Friday, saying that now that the results are certified, the Trump campaign can pursue other legal options to call for a recount. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, also a Republican, told reporters Friday morning that President-elect Biden had definitively won the state, after the state's hand recount was completed Thursday.

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But Kemp didn't endorse the results, instead calling for another full hand recount. Kemp, who served as Georgia secretary of state before Raffensperger, has not publicly defended the state's election process from accusations from the president and his campaign. He alleged Friday that the audit revealed significant errors made in several counties, including Floyd, Douglas and Walton.

Kemp said the audit only looked at ballots, not the signatures on the absentee applications or the signatures on the ballot envelopes. He called for Raffensperger to "consider addressing these concerns" and conduct a "sample of audit of signatures on absentee ballot envelopes and compare those to the signatures on applications and on file that the secretary of state's office."

Newt Gingrich @newtgingrich · 11h Governor Kemp calling for a signature audit of the Georgia ballots and indicating that he is troubled by the evidence at the state senate hearing is an encouraging step in the right direction. Sebastian Gorka DrG @SebGorka · Dec 3 GAMECHANGER. Quote Tweet Grant Stinchfield @stinchfield1776 · Dec 3 This is a total game changer! Sure looks like ballot stuffing in GA! All caught on camera. Busted! @realDonaldTrump @JennaEllisEsq @RudyGiuliani #stopthesteal 1.7K 17.7K 50.8K Ben Shapiro @benshapiro · 9h There is literally no excuse for Republicans in Georgia not to vote for Republicans in Georgia. None.

[Dec 05, 2020] turcopolier

Dec 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

| 02 December 2020 at 05:31 PM


sbin , 02 December 2020 at 06:43 PM


Perfect example of peter principal on steroids with splash gender bias.
However with such examples of CIA leadership as Brennan, Pompeo perhaps it is past time CIA was disbanded.

fakebot , 02 December 2020 at 08:25 PM

Biden is supposedly looking for a replacement. Tom Donilon was lined up, but he passed on the offer and it seems the Biden team are looking at other options. Trump himself was mulling to replace her only a few weeks ago. She's out the door one way or another.

I saw a report published yesterday that she is "intimately involved" with Abrams and Pompeo in clandestine operations against Iran in Trump's remaining weeks in office.

https://news.antiwar.com/2020/12/01/report-trump-gives-hawks-free-rein-to-hammer-iran/

The officials say Trump has been more passive in overseeing Iran policy and point to Pompeo and Iran envoy Elliot Abrams as the two advisors heading the last-ditch effort to hammer the Islamic Republic. The officials say both Pompeo and Abrams are in favor of quietly backing covert actions carried out by other actors. One official said CIA Director Gina Haspel has been "intimately involved" in the administration's clandestine strategy against Iran.
TV , 02 December 2020 at 08:32 PM

Snopes is pretty well known as another left wing "fact" checker.
The founders are Democrat activists.
Are there any so-called "fact" checkers that are not left wing?
Politifact obviously gets their "facts" from Schumer and Pelosi press releases.

Deap , 02 December 2020 at 08:59 PM

I only care what "Snopes" is saying because this is what the Bubble is hearing and believing. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.

Snopes for, some reason, has already "gotten ahead" of this rumor - so even that is interesting. Not that they are accurate, but that they are out there running defense and are even expanding the topic ( gratuitously debunking election fraud and German raid for bonus points ) for whatever in fact is their own agenda.

No, these links were not presented for their truth; just for the wider discussion since the other side puts a lot of credence in them for their own purposes. Brain-washing the "progressive set" with dismissive denials is part of their agenda. Which personally bugs me. So I put their weapons of diversion on the table up front.

Rick Merlotti , 02 December 2020 at 09:11 PM

Snopes is most definitely a part of the perception management apparat. Along with several others who get prime Google News real estate to tell the sonambulent sheep what to think.

[Dec 05, 2020] A search of indivisible.org network showed a subdomain which evidences the existence of scorecard software in use as part of the Indivisible (formerly ACORN) political group for Obama

Dec 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Barbara Ann , 04 December 2020 at 02:44 PM

Deap, courtesy of Kraken:

"12. A search of indivisible.org network showed a subdomain which evidences the existence of scorecard software in use as part of the Indivisible (formerly ACORN) political group for Obama" (page 9)

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1255923/gov.uscourts.azd.1255923.1.5.pdf

[Dec 05, 2020] President Trump's Speech About Voter Fraud - 12-02-2020 - YouTube

Dec 05, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Karry Foster
109 subscribers SUBSCRIBE This is the entire 46-minute speech that President Trump posted concerning the rampant voter fraud that took place in the 2020 election. Most of the Main Stream Media have ignored it completely or have tried to pick it apart. I think everyone deserves a chance to watch it and decide for themselves. The first 39 seconds only have the audio but then the video kicks in after that.

[Dec 05, 2020] Dr. Linda Lee Tarver Testifies to What is Really Happening in Michigan!!! - YouTube

Listen form 16:00... Especially interesting idea is that hypocritical affect to enlarge participation and avoid "disenfranchising the voters" is a smoke screen a fraud in its almost pure form...
Dec 05, 2020 | www.youtube.com

rmuya , 1 day ago

Dr. Tarver was outstanding! Very impressive. Where has she been all this time? If she wants, she has a bright future in politics. Michigan Legislature really need to consult her on how to fix the voting mess they have in Michigan.


Frank Cabanski
, 1 day ago

Recounting the same invalid ballots won't change anything.


brogarn
, 1 day ago

Democrat bro tried to score political points. SHUT. DOWN. WITH. FORCE. She's the real deal. I'm enamored.

P G , 1 day ago

Wow. Strong words, and even stronger woman. A true patriot. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸


yupia yupia
, 1 day ago

Notice how their attitudes changed when they realized that this woman was no easy way. When you speak...people...speak with authority and confidence because people like that democrat will eat you alive if they sense any weakness in you.


Tristan Hurley
, 1 day ago

Outstandingly sharp. However, people of USA appear hopelessly clueless to the obvious fact that rules are broken on purpose. It is not some random occurrance due to an oversight, it is by design. Elections happen all the time, it is not rocket science. America is stuck in a kind of myopic version of reality whereby the good or moral outcome of a situation is expected when it is never even the point in the first place. She sights "lack of training" etc. It wasnt by accident that people didnt get training or were not protected by law because its some kind of random oversight, it is because those exact oversights provide the apparatus of malfeasance with all that it needs to conduct a fraudulent election. It is by design. Not accident.


Vincent VanWagenen
, 1 day ago

"The apathy is egregious" direct quote when referring to poll workers in some of the precincts in Detriot.


Don 2scoops
, 1 day ago

Do a forensic audit for everything, if it takes all of 2021 who cares, Trump is the rightful POTUS, Biden can nap in his basement.


Don 2scoops
, 1 day ago

Do a forensic audit for everything, if it takes all of 2021 who cares, Trump is the rightful POTUS, Biden can nap in his basement.


Chris C
, 1 day ago

Remarkable... she nailed it... WE NEED NO NEW LAWS WE NEED ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAW! This is exactly what president Trump has been reming us for FOUR DAMN YEARS!


Rikko-Hirano Tsukino
, 1 day ago (edited)

Gretchen Whitmer needs to be sent this. She's the main one throwing out racist and disenfranchise accusations.


John
, 1 day ago

AG Barr is a disgrace to the honorable and honest Dr Tarver who only wants to uphold the laws already on the books.


Jordan Guarrasi
, 1 day ago

I watched nearly the entire 6.5 hour hearing... This is the best spoken, most intellectual part of the entire thing. While she wasn't present on the day of vote counting, she clearly knows the state, the voting process and the way things are done up and down the spectrum (especially in Michigan). I was inspired by watching her, and I'm simply a Canadian who wants Trump back in power so China is held accountable for their actions. Wishing the best of luck to you GOPS!!

[Dec 05, 2020] WATCH- Trump's Censored Speech OffGuardian

Notable quotes:
"... The billionaire owners of the media are deciding what you can and cannot see. Granting themselves a monopoly on "truth" and usurping the power of the ordinary citizen to inform themselves and make a reasoned decision ..."
"... 'I'll drain the swamp' ..."
"... 'I'll show you aliens' or 'I'll release the JFK truth' ..."
"... 'data rigging that wasn't policed ' ..."
Dec 05, 2020 | off-guardian.org

WATCH: Trump's Censored Speech The media refusing to air the President's allegations of vote rigging is an open display of who REALLY runs the country

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RFzTuaVS8Kk

On Wednesday, December 2nd Donald Trump – the sitting President of the United State of America – released a 46 minute recorded speech. In an alarming display of co-ordinated censorship, much of the media simply refused to air it.

In the speech (embedded above) he details all the suspicious behaviour surrounding the November 3rd election, as well as showing charts of evidence of peculiar activity in the vote counts of key swing states.

None of the major networks aired it in full. CNN simply refused to broadcast even clips, instead letting the millionaire son of a political dynasty lecture the viewing public in a bizarre ten-minute long abuse-laden rant .

Twitter and Facebook stuck "fact-check" warnings under anyone attempting to share it while papers like the Guardian or Independent post mocking summaries without ever showing – or even linking to – the original.

If you want to actually see the speech in full you have search out smaller youtube channels, or go to C-SPAN . (We would suggest downloading a copy while you can, it is likely to become hard to find. There's also a transcript here .)

Their defense of this overt censorship is that Trump is "endangering lives" and/or "encouraging violence" by calling the legitimacy of the vote into question. Such claims were never made about claims Putin's Russia had rigged the vote for Trump. In fact, Russiagate nonsense was spouted nightly by every major news outlet in the country, if not the world.

However they justify to themselves there's no denying the hard truth of it: The mainstream media are actively and openly engaged in the wholesale censorship of an elected head of state. Deliberately crippling the ability of an elected leader to communicate with the public.

Whether or not the vote was rigged – and there is more than enough reason to think that it was – the behaviour of the media is verging on the kind of co-ordinated gagging you would expect to happen during a palace coup.

Even if you hate Trump and love Biden, even if you don't care about the vote and count all modern democracy a sham, there's a coup going on here that's bigger than just who gets to sit in the Oval office:

The billionaire owners of the media are deciding what you can and cannot see. Granting themselves a monopoly on "truth" and usurping the power of the ordinary citizen to inform themselves and make a reasoned decision

Rigged vote or not, what's left of our crumbling democratic freedoms has never been in more danger.


John Goss , Dec 5, 2020 12:08 AM

I know Savorywill below would like to see this. The fight is not over yet. This is election fraud of the worst kind. The problem is those who did not get caught in this corruption but were still a part of it. The actual alleged turnout at the polls is highly questionable – the biggest ever. Now some might think that Joe Biden has that kind of charisma. Others have actually seen him perform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ9YGSMY2xg

It's no wonder the US is always questioning other countries' elections. It thinks its system is the model for the world.


Tom
, Dec 5, 2020 12:00 AM

They didn't really censor it. They just show his face, and tell you what they think of it before you even hear him. Pretty usual SOP for them I guess. Dec 4, 2020 11:44 PM

Thank you for publishing this article, and enabling people to watch the speech. At least 70 million Americans did vote for Trump (probably many more than that, if their votes had been counted). They are decidedly not happy to see what is taking place, to say the least. I went to Paddy's gambling side to see the odds of Trump winning late Tuesday, when normally the election is called, and Trump was indisputably odds on favorite (you would have made a fortune betting on Biden at that time!). Then the polls close, the election monitors are told to go home and the mail-in ballots are rolled in and counted in secret, with Republican monitors either not present or, if they were, not allowed to see what was going on.

If Biden does prevail, which seems highly likely, sadly, at this stage, his pick to be the Secretary of Defense, is Michèle Flournoy , a woman (of course!), but a woman who thinks that US troops should remain in Afghanistan to protect Afghani women from the Taliban !

You can't make this up! Trump stated in every rally, to tremendous applause, 'end the endless wars'. The Democrats are the war party now and they are filling government positions with sociopaths such as Madeleine Albright, famous for saying the death of 500,000 children in Iraq was 'worth it'. Worth it for what, I wonder. One thing is sure, though, those millions who did vote for Trump are not going to be pleased by what is going on. How they will express their displeasure is the big question, I guess. However, if it actually happens that the Supreme Court did rule in favor of Trump and invalidated enough mail-in votes to swing the election back to Trump, there would a shit storm of dissent from MSM and the deranged mobs of Trump haters that would likely wreak havoc on the whole country, nightly rampages of BLM and Antifa types terrorizing cities, others bringing out guns to defend themselves, possibly devolving into almost civil war conditions. Perhaps it is better to let Biden's minders have their way, make half hearted efforts to actually reduce CO2 emissions to 0% by 2025 (as Biden solemnly proclaimed in the final debate), give free health to all, allow people from south of border easy or unfettered access to come to the USA (of course, tear down that hateful wall), renew the practice of exporting jobs to other countries where the wages are lower so products can be made more cheaply, resulting in lower employment options for American workers. Then, obviously, the economy will tank and Trump, or someone on the same page, can run again in 2024 and save the day

George Mc , Dec 4, 2020 11:14 PM

I think you have to see the bigger picture. All politicians ultimately serve the most powerful forces i.e. the monied class. It's not a unified group but there is at any time a general direction which this class will take.

The Western world has lived in a comfortable boom bubble after WW2. Our society embodied an unprecedented affluence. And it could afford to project an image of "capitalism for all" or "capitalism with a friendly face".

It was a time of seeming celebration where the Western populace were in the happy position of being like eternal children – mesmerised by an increasingly glamourous entertainment field. And we got to act out a pretence at political participation every few years. The spectrum of potential political leaders effectively boiled down to two – which were merely two faces of the same force.

This comfortable theatre has lasted all our lives. But the underlying situation has changed through a downward economic spiral through which, up till now, we have "weathered the storm". The ruling class has gradually siphoned off more and more wealth to feed its insatiable hunger. And it has managed to do this while still maintaining that basic paradigm of "smiley face capitalism".

But we have reached a moment of crisis. The ruling class is now facing up to the fact that it can no longer maintain its power and luxuriance within the paradigm of a universal security. Thus we have the most transformative point since WW2. That vast majority of happy eternal children will find their hitherto comfortable lifestyles slipping away so that they will become a new peasant class.

And so the glamorous vision of capitalism for all must now give way. The image that is now in the ascendant is that of a war economy i.e. the old war economy. This is very different from the grand bellicosity which can be projected for a protected populace who, as it were, get to watch a televised image of war which is happening comfortably elsewhere. This time, the population itself is on the receiving end.

It is in this sense that the word "socialism" or even "Marxism" may be applied – not because the society we are headed towards is actual socialism. But because the old cold war image of communism with its seedy deprivation will indeed became reality for the vast majority.

So where does Trump fit in all this? Well – that aforementioned communist image is obviously more connected to the Left than the Right. In American terms, that means the Democrats are the ones "for the job".

And what is "the job"? Well it is the most efficacious path towards the slump i.e. the path that will generate the least resistance and the most docility. Hence: the pandemic. Trump's "Make America Great Again" rhetoric was not only obsolete but a positive obstacle to this great deprivation.

No longer the carrot but the stick. No longer prophets of hope but doom merchants. That is what the rulers need now if they want to preserve their position. And preserving their position is all they care abo

Lost in a dark wood , Dec 4, 2020 10:36 PM Reply to Brianborou

Trump is the counter coup against the central banking system, and it's why he has a portrait of Andrew Jackson overlooking his desk (see below). The war against the "invisible enemy" started in 2016 and what we are witnessing now is perhaps the beginning of the end. Probably the best rolling updates come from the X22 Report:
https://rumble.com/c/X22Report
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https://www.salon.com/2019/10/02/donald-trumps-favorite-president-andrew-jackson-as-father-of-the-white-republic/
I don't know much about the detailed history, but I assume the above is at least a partial attempt to trash Jackson. However, it makes the point (perhaps inadvertently) that the British were always a serious threat, and the actions by Jackson should be viewed in the context of addressing that threat.

Brianborou. , Dec 4, 2020 11:47 PM Reply to Lost in a dark wood

Really, so how do you explain the most powerful bankers in the world bail him out of most of his business failed ventures ?

JuraCalling , Dec 5, 2020 12:00 AM Reply to Lost in a dark wood

Andrew Jackson was an intelligent and politically astute man.

Donald Trump is a billionaire property developer and celebrity.

Do you think Jackson would have had a picture of Trump anywhere( that doesn't include a dartboard )

George Mc , Dec 4, 2020 8:29 PM

One thing that this video gives the lie to is that Trump is a present day version of Hitler. Whatever you think of him, he puts his point forward with poise and dignity. Dec 4, 2020 8:25 PM

Trump's speech should've been broadcasted on MSM. That being said, anyone who foolishly supported sellout Bernie is well aware of how the Dems rig elections. It's done all a time by both parties. All elections are rigged.

In any event, this election was critical. The establishment Republicans, Democrats, and the security state wanted Trump out. They were all in on it.
The person involved (Trump) as usual is always the last to know. Trump, was purposely not given good advice–it was a set-up. Trump's team should've only consented to the "COVID mail-in election," if the mail-in ballots were "solicited" and signatures were matched to existing documentation. These solicited ballots needed to be counted as they came in. They all should've been required to be mailed out early way before election day. After those mail-in ballots were tabulated, then they would only have to count the ballots which were cast on election day.

However, this is what probably happened–the security state was stunned by Trump's popularity. They had no idea he was going to secure so many votes. That's why the counting was stopped and they needed to regroup. They had to keep the results solid for Biden so Trump would have no recourse. It was planned for a very long time.
Biden-Harris evolved into the ticket when Harris "their favorite" turned out to be a loser during the Dem primaries. That's why they pulled sleazy Joe out of the coffin to run with the Indian/Zionist Hillary puppet.

Geoff , Dec 4, 2020 7:42 PM

Apart from the fact it's outrageous that they rig elections, but the outcome is still the same, in the UK if the great socialist QC leader of the ludwick parry should win the next election what happens nothing never has never will, we must be the only country where you have to work a two year probationary period before you have any employment protection, give seven days notice for any industrial action , why not make it three months? As someone put it on here last week , putting a piece of paper into a ballot box is a grown up version of sending Santa a letter, after the last election, I'm finished never vote again it's a fuckin charade and I'm not joining in.

Joerg , Dec 4, 2020 7:42 PM

WATCH: Video footage from Georgia shows suitcases filled with ballots pulled from under a table AFTER supervisors told poll workers to leave room and 4 people stayed behind to keep counting votes

https://t.co/AcbTI1pxn4

Joerg , Dec 4, 2020 7:43 PM Reply to Joerg

The video itself has the direct:link:
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334569329334083586

crank , Dec 4, 2020 7:40 PM Reply to JuraCalling

If this speech we can see hear was banned from reaching the public because of it's truth- why are we able to watch and listen ?

Of course none of us know. My 'take' is that it is part of a fairly elaborate bifurcation strategy. We are 'able to watch and listen' because of the pluralility and cross referencing of the internet. There is only one meaningful divide in Western politics now : those who hang on to the corporate media as a thread back to a believeable account of the world around them, and those who are thinking and do not. The PTB saw this divide coming. The corporate/state media ran Operation Trump as a bout featuring a bad wrestler character, knowing full well that a lot of what he says is, in fact, true. That he is the one saying it though, tar babies the truth with because it is his weird mouth uttering it. Lies then continue to prevail amongst the managerial classes.
None of this is about Donald Trump ulitmately, but electoral politics confuses several things in people's minds : the honesty of character of the individual standing as representative, the stated political objectives/ philosophies of the representative, the unstated objectives/ philosophy of the representative, the values and interests of those who get them into power, the capacity for that representative to work the system to get their objectives enacted etc.
The issue here is about the 70+ million voters who voted for what they think Donald Trump offers them. That they have not got what they seemed to want back in 2016, and that Trump had ample chance to push that along, reminds me that his "America First" declaration is the key (and perhaps only) lie in this speech.
The swing toward a renewed national conservatism in America is a problem for the global elites. So they set up a fake nationalism, sometimes referred to as 'Finkelthink', after its mastermind Arthur Finkelstein. There is a lot on this for anyone open minded enough to look into it.
The stage is being set by the Democrats and Trump together, to maximise chaos layered upon chaos. We all know why, because America (the dollar) is going down:
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1604-john-titus-on-central-bank-digital-currencies/

S Cooper , Dec 4, 2020 8:08 PM Reply to JuraCalling

"Not the most gracious loser is Donald."

"That is precious. Liars, cheats and charlatans lecturing anyone about "sportsmanship." They should first get some integrity. Oh wait, they can't. Because they have none. They have not only cheated Orange Hair Bozo, they have cheated the general public as well."

JuraCalling , Dec 4, 2020 8:24 PM Reply to S Cooper

I think a big part of this is a bit like the Roadrunner carton. No matter how 'wily' Wile E Coyote was, he always ended up with his own bomb exploding in his hand or getting stuck in his own trap.

Four years ago Trump tried to tap into the niche we know and love as 'alt'. He tempted with 'I'll drain the swamp' and 'I'll show you aliens' or 'I'll release the JFK truth' nuggets. Once he was in he developed a 'bromance' that looked like a terrible, terrible acid trip with Alex Jones.

Then there was a mass sweep of 'conspiracy theories' that had been prompted by Obama's blood lust. Suddenly we had Trumps attempt at Orwellian doublespeak as he called whatever he didn't agree with 'fake nooz'. Anyone asking the president a question- as has been protocol for 100 years- was ok if they asked ones he wanted to be asked; any others were branded as ' fake nooz '.

We were still hearing about 'Pizzagate' and the Clinton cartel of psychopaths 2 years into his reign. And even now Russiagate or Hackgate won't go away. So here we are. Trump has found another mixture of conspiracy to call 'fake nooz' .

But this one( according to him) has been to oust him from power.

We've never seen a public figure scrutinised so closely 24/7 in our time. Nobody has. I thought that kind of thing with Lady Diana was the peakt. But the Trump obsession has been off the scale from day one. I think it's down to his numerous cameo appearances on tacky sitcoms or public appearances at the square garden for the big fights. We all knew him in the UK. We never thought of him as a politician, just a slightly wacky billionaire with interesting hair and funny suits.

That the race was between him and Hilary was bad enough. In the UK, we had a complete dickhead who looks like he'd struggle in a job interviewer as the car park attendant end up the PM.

As Dystopia sets in, as the decks are cleared for a NWO and as politicians ready themselves to step aside and let the future structure's rulers- Scientists – take over, Democracy has to be seen as untrustworthy, along with the democratic process.

We can hope the vote -rigging talk goes away ( it's dull already, and less and less people buy the system anyway) but it's serving it's purpose. That being to demonstrate the lack of credibility of any system has that allows us plebs to have a say.

They won't blame us; they'll blame 'data rigging that wasn't policed ' . But we'll be told we'll have to vote by digital means after this. And that's not voting at all. It's pressing keys and a mouse. The results are already decided ahead of the game. Like now.

Captain Birdheart , Dec 4, 2020 6:16 PM

Here is a video version (12 minutes) of the Martin Geddes article 'The digital coup & the great exposure.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/LEFTSJkitYM?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en-US&autohide=2&wmode=transparent

Tom Larsen , Dec 4, 2020 7:15 PM Reply to Captain Birdheart

I doubt anybody living in the Biden media bubble would ever hear this.

TheCrow , Dec 4, 2020 6:22 PM Reply to Lisa

Trump is the political wing of the military industrial complex, and it looks like they are going to go for it.

Sandy Sanders , Dec 4, 2020 6:08 PM

But let's be honest about the US electoral system. Just concerning post WW2, It's a two-team battle much like a professional football league with just two franchises: playing, making the rules, running the game, refereeing, promoting, providing media and "journalistic" coverage, administering funding, policies, budgets and arenas, controlling ancillary business franchises; and literally charging, controlling behavior of and dictating every aspect of the event an attendance. The public's only power is to buy (being taxed) a ticket or watch the commercialed event on TV. Same two teams, same basic play, same outcome for everyone. The owners & 1% players and support franchises make out fabulously and the public sit in the serf's seats powerless and obedient. As ratified in 1789 and functioning in 2020, it's a rigged game from the start.

In the last 100 years we've had the incredibly popular socialist Henry Wallace, VP to FDR, sabotaged by internal Dem politics giving us the most incompetent Truman; JFK thru Chicago ballot rigging; internal sabotage of McGovern and Carter; the Anderson split sabotage of 1980; Gore in Florida 2000 w/SCOTUS & Dem sellout; Kerry Sellout in Ohio 2004; and the 3 million plus majority popular loss to the archaic Electoral College in 2016. For me the only solution for a survivable future was Wallace in 1948. But as 2020 was rigged, it has always been rigged by the system which is the Deep State to get what it wants: 1) a plutocracy that provides for the Commerce operations of the 1%; and 2) thwart, block & erase any functional democracy or potentiality of democratic socialism that allows the 99% to self-govern-provide for the social needs of humanity.

Gwyn , Dec 4, 2020 6:07 PM

And they'll still have the brass neck to bang on about "exporting democracy" to other countries. The USA is a bad joke of a country. A rogue state.

Which makes it the ideal henchman for the transnational financiers who run the world. A big, stupid bully with unlimited military spending at its disposal that can bomb countries that can't defend themselves into submission. Very courageous, those servants of illegitimate power from the Home of the Brave.

It's also called the Land of the Free, of course – which is slightly at odds with the fact that it's the proud possessor of the highest per capita rate of incarceration in the world. And they say the Yanks don't do irony!

Ross Hendry , Dec 4, 2020 6:41 PM Reply to Gwyn

"USA is a bad joke of a country."

Make that a sick joke. Americans on the other hand are mostly fine people (albeit amazingly oblivious/uncaring about the outrages that are done in their name).

Gwyn , Dec 4, 2020 8:04 PM Reply to Ross Hendry

The greatest outrage started on the day settlers landed there. A bit of humility, a bit of contrition, about the fate of the American Indians wouldn't go amiss (instead of all the idiotic, infantile bombast about the USA being the greatest country in the world).

Watt , Dec 4, 2020 8:44 PM Reply to Gwyn

Maybe some 'reparations' wouldn't go amiss! Major precedent is already in play, so to speak.

JuraCalling , Dec 5, 2020 12:10 AM Reply to Gwyn

It's Orwellian doublespeak Democracy.

Le Chat Noir , Dec 4, 2020 6:03 PM

We have all globally lost democracy and freedom in a very sinister and well co-ordinated revolution without a shot being fired, apart from the one they'll give you in the arm. I feel very sad for the young people, they'll never grow up in the wonderful world I knew.

[Dec 05, 2020] There was Watergate. Now, there is Waterbreak.

Dec 05, 2020 | www.unz.com

Priss Factor , says: Website December 4, 2020 at 12:49 am GMT • 22.0 hours ago

There was Watergate.

Now, there is Waterbreak.

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Then today we found out that individuals stuck around in the Atlanta Center on election night after the water main break occurred and everyone else was sent home.

[Dec 02, 2020] Games with cure of damaged ballots: Trump Ballots Defaulted And Switched To Biden On Dominion System- Maricopa GOP Chairwoman -

Dec 02, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Maricopa County GOP chairwoman Linda Brickman on Nov. 30 testified before members of the Arizona State Legislature that she personally observed votes for President Donald Trump being tallied as votes for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden when input into Dominion machines.

Brickman, the GOP head of one of the country's largest counties and a veteran county elections worker, submitted her testimony in a sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury. She testified that she and her Democratic partner witnessed "more than once" Trump votes default and shift to Biden when they were entering votes into Dominion machines from ballots that couldn't be read by machines.

She alleged that she was later threatened by election supervisors at the Maricopa County Tabulation and Election Center (MCTEC) for speaking out about what she had witnessed.

" I observed, with my Democratic partner, the preparation of a new ballot, since the original one was soiled, or wouldn't go through the tabulators. I read her a Trump Republican ballot, and as soon as she entered it into the system, the ballot defaulted on the screen to a Biden Democratic ballot, " Brickman told GOP Arizona State legislators on Monday.

She remarked that when she reported the issue to election supervisors, others in the room also commented that they had "witnessed the same manipulation."

"We were never told what, if any corrective action was taken," Brickman continued. " All I know is the next day, I was called outside the room that I was working in for signature verification by a supervisor who said, 'I understand you caused some problems this week and you thought our machines were not working correctly.'

"I was told at that point in time that I could not discuss anything or talk about what was going on.

" Many people were threatened ," Brickman told the hearing. "They were told that their voices would be suppressed, they would have to leave the room and not work there again. I'm here because I think this is our duty to speak the truth."

[Dec 02, 2020] AG Barr Destroys His Name for All Eternity - His Actions Today Confirm He Is Just Another Card-Carrying Swamp Rat

Dec 02, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Now we know why the DOJ didn't arrest anyone for the past four years and why the Durham investigation came up empty. The reason is they wanted it this way. They never were going to arrest anyone. The only people the FBI and DOJ target are patriotic conservative Americans who want things better for their country and for their children's future.

We all knew that there was enough evidence in the public square to arrest and convict dozens of politicians and government workers. Now we know why none were arrested. AG Barr and the swamp run deep!

AG Barr had a good scam going but now it's over. We now know definitively what he is all about. He is just another crooked swamp creature.

As noted earlier today, Melissa Carone, a very compelling witness who testified in Tuesday's Michigan hearing, said she called the FBI on November 5 to report numerous instances of fraud, but the FBI never called her back.

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A Dominion-trained IT contractor named Melissa Carone absolutely blew up the Michigan hearing on Tuesday.

Melissa Carone dropped many truth bombs, blew the whistle on Dominion workers and revealed ballots were being tabulated in the Department of Elections which is completely illegal.

Ms. Carone stunned the Michigan state lawmakers when she revealed there were tabulation machines at the Department of Elections.

The FBI completely ignored Carone's eyewitness testimony and never called her back.

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New election fraud whistleblowers came forward on Tuesday, including one who witnessed the shipping of an estimated 144,000-288,000 completed ballots across three state lines on October 21.

Today the momentum of the election fraud scam began to take over. Everyone knows the election was a fraud. Too much information is available in the public square that proves this is the case. All Americans know what is going on. We all see it.

This is why Barr had to do something. He waited until today to attempt to announce, despite clear evidence to the contrary, there was no material corruption in the election. Then he pulls another 'Undercover Huber' and announces that he picked John Durham, to lead a Special Counsel into Crossfire Hurricane. There, that will placate the troops, while he digs his knife into President Trump and America's back.

Instead, he made it clear he is part of the swamp – a card carrying member. He never fired the corrupt FBI Director Wray. He had Durham working for more than a year with no indictments despite clear evidence of a corrupt and criminal led FBI and DOJ. He allowed Mueller's goons to come back to the FBI and DOJ where they should be placed in cuffs and frog marched to prison. Barr wasn't going to do a damn thing.

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Hillary Clinton is free despite destroying evidence related to the many crimes she conducted while in the government. Jim Comey and Andy McCabe are caught lying but never prosecuted. Mueller and his gang are free. As a matter of fact, the last four FBI Directors, Mueller, Comey, McCabe and Wray should all be in prison, not walking around harassing others.

The list goes on and on. No wonder creepy and corrupt Peter Strzok was so cocky before the election. They all knew they would run free and the election was rigged for Biden.

Individuals like General Flynn and Roger Stone are set up and convicted in banana courts. War hero and triple amputee Brian Kolfage is arrested and forced to crawl on one arm and pull himself up into an arrest vehicle in the rain based on makeshift charges coming out of the corrupt New York DOJ office.

This is Barr's America. No charges for the criminals running the FBI and DOJ mafia, only for innocents who love America.

AG Barr will now go down in history as just another DC swamp rat.

What a disgrace. AG Barr's name is now mud.

But ultimately, it doesn't matter. Barr's just another bump in the road. Americans want justice and will have it. It doesn't matter what Barr thinks or does. Unfortunately for him like so many others, their words and actions only strengthen our resolve for justice while confirming our knowledge that the swamp is corrupt and we are right.

Congrats on destroying your name for eternity AG Barr. Well done. We the people are moving on without you.

[Dec 01, 2020] Arizona certifies Biden winner of 2020 election despite Trump challenges -- RT USA News

Dec 01, 2020 | www.rt.com

The certification kicks off a five-day period during which anyone can contest the results. State Republican Party chairwoman Kelli Ward announced she would be in court Monday with a lawsuit already filed in order to secure documents she hopes to use to challenge Biden's victory.

Trump is expected to challenge the results both in Arizona and Wisconsin, which also plans to certify Biden's victory on Monday. Most of his post-Election Day legal challenges have been thrown out, though recently-dismissed Trump legal team member Sidney Powell filed a massive lawsuit of her own last week alleging sweeping voter fraud.

The Trump legal team has already dropped one suit against Arizona that sought to have all ballots cast on Election Day reviewed. While lawyers had initially suspected Trump votes were discarded as " overvotes ," the number of actual overvotes was found to be relatively minimal, and the remaining unreviewed ballots would not have been able to exceed Biden's margin of victory.

[Dec 01, 2020] Amistad Lawyer- FBI Collecting Data on Vote Fraud - Newsmax.com

Dec 01, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

The FBI is looking at evidence uncovered by Amistad investigators who have crunched data from the government and reached out to actual voters to see if how they voted actually matches the government's data.

"And we've come up with tens of thousands of Republican ballots that were not counted," Kline told host Grant Stinchfield. "We've come up with hundreds of thousands of Republicans who say they never requested a ballot, but they voted absentee by somebody else. We've identified people outside of the state who voted within the state. And all of this occurred in the key swing states that we're speaking about."

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Kline said all of the areas investigated "had hundreds of millions of dollars poured into their election offices by Mark Zuckerberg."

The Facebook CEO, Kline said, poured in $400 million into the election, matching the federal government expenditures, through his charities.

"They paid the election judges, they paid the people who boarded up the windows, they bought the machines and America was kicked out of the counting room, and a billionaire invited in, in all of the swing state urban core cities, and that is a violation the law."

Amistad's data show that all of these changes benefited Democratic strongholds as they were suppressing the vote in Republican strongholds, Kline said, "and then we had them sidestepping the law and accepting ballots they should not have accepted."

[Dec 01, 2020] On Sunday night, U.S. District Judge Timothy Batten, a George W. Bush appointee, ordered Kemp and Raffensperger to explain why they opposed the Trump campaign's request to inspect voting machines

Dec 01, 2020 | www.washingtonexaminer.com

On Sunday night, U.S. District Judge Timothy Batten, a George W. Bush appointee, ordered Kemp and Raffensperger to explain why they opposed the Trump campaign's request to inspect voting machines the president's team claims may have been rigged in favor of Biden. The two were given until Wednesday to file a response. The judge also ordered officials not to erase or alter any data pertaining to the election on the voting machines in Cobb, Gwinnett, and Cherokee counties.

[Dec 01, 2020] Pennsylvania House GOP leaders- Lawmakers won't meet again this year

Dec 01, 2020 | www.washingtonexaminer.com

T he Republican leaders of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives announced late Saturday that they will not be returning to session this year, a move that would appear to preclude any possibility of lawmakers interceding in the 2020 election.

House Speaker Bryan Cutler, R-Quarryville, and Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, R-Bellefonte, released a joint statement saying that they would not be calling their chamber to Harrisburg on Monday, the final possible day for the 2019-20 session of the Legislature to meet.

"We are physically unable to consider any new legislation before the end of session," they wrote in the statement. "A simple resolution takes three legislative days for consideration and a concurrent resolution takes five legislative days to move through both chambers, which means we do not have the time needed to address any new resolutions in our current session."

Article III, Section 4 of the state constitution requires that bills be considered on three different days by each chamber. A simple resolution originates from a single chamber, while a concurrent resolution must move through both.

After Monday, there can be no further meetings of the Legislature this year. Article II, Section 4 , decrees that the 2021-22 session of the Legislature will begin on the first Tuesday of January, which will be Jan. 5, 2021.

Given that the House won't meet before the Electoral College gathers to pick the next president Dec. 14, President Donald Trump's hopes that state lawmakers in Pennsylvania would step in and choose electors appear to be dashed.

[Dec 01, 2020] Pennsylvania Lawmakers Formally Introduce Resolution To Dispute 2020 Elections Results -

Dec 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

As The Epoch Times' Ivan Pentchoukov reports , the text of the resolution, first previewed in a memo on Nov. 27, states that the executive and judicial branches of the Keystone State's government usurped the legislature's constitutional power to set the rules of the election.

"Officials in the Executive and Judicial Branches of the Commonwealth infringed upon the General Assembly's authority under the Constitution of the United States by unlawfully changing the rules governing the November 3, 2020, election in the Commonwealth," the resolution ( pdf ) states.

The resolution calls on the secretary of the Commonwealth to withdraw the "premature certification " of the presidential election and delay certifying other races , declares the 2020 election to be in dispute, and urges the U.S. Congress "to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute."

Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly said in a statement, "A number of compromises of Pennsylvania's election laws took place during the 2020 General Election. The documented irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing have undermined our elector process and, as a result, we cannot accept certification of the results in statewide races."

They added, "We believe this moment is pivotal and important enough that the General Assembly needs to take extraordinary measures to answer these extraordinary questions. We also believe our representative oversight duty as Pennsylvania's legislative branch of government demands us to re-assume our constitutional authority and take immediate action."

The proposed text lists three steps taken by the judicial and executive branches to change the rules of the election.

First, on Sept. 17 , the Pennsylvania Supreme Court "unlawfully and unilaterally" extended the deadline by which mail ballots could be received, mandated that ballots without a postmark would be treated as timely, and allowed for ballots without a verified voter signature to be accepted, the resolution says.

Second, on Oct. 23, upon a petition from the secretary of the commonwealth, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that signatures on mail-in ballots need not be authenticated.

And third, on Nov. 2, the secretary of the commonwealth "encouraged certain counties to notify party and candidate representatives of mail-in voters whose ballots contained defects," the resolution says.

All of the changes are contrary to the Pennsylvania Election Code, which requires mail-in ballots to be received at 8 p.m. on Election Day, mandates that signatures on the mail-in ballots be authenticated, and forbids the counting of defective mail-in ballots.

The resolution also lists a variety of election irregularities and potential fraud, including the issues brought up by witnesses during the hearing before the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Policy Committee on Nov. 25.

"On November 24, 2020, the Secretary of the Commonwealth unilaterally and prematurely certified results of the November 3, 2020 election regarding presidential electors despite ongoing litigation," the resolution states.

"The Pennsylvania House of Representatives has the duty to ensure that no citizen of this Commonwealth is disenfranchised, to insist that all elections are conducted according to the law, and to satisfy the general public that every legal vote is counted accurately."

Pennsylvania State Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican, said Friday that the GOP-controlled state legislature will make a bid to reclaim its power to appoint the state's electors to the Electoral College, saying they could start the process on Nov. 30.

"So, we're gonna do a resolution between the House and Senate, hopefully today," he told Steve Bannon's War Room on Friday.

[Dec 01, 2020] REPORT- Lt Gen McInerney Reports US Special Forces Attacked CIA Server Farm In Germany In Server Seizure Operation, 5 Soldier

Dec 01, 2020 | theblogginghounds.com

REPORT: Lt Gen McInerney Reports US Special Forces Attacked CIA Server Farm In Germany In Server Seizure Operation, 5 Soldiers Killed, Servers Secured

by CD Media Staff November 28, 2020

Lt General Thomas McInerney and Lt General Michael Flynn gave interviews to WVW Broadcasting Network today. It was Flynn's first interview since his pardon.

In stunning testimony, McInerney stated his sources have told him U.S. Army Special Forces, possibly the famed Delta Force, raided the CIA-run server farm in Frankfurt, Germany.

5 soldiers were killed in the ensuing firefight, as well as one CIA paramilitary; the CIA personnel were allegedly flown in from Afghanistan for security, according to related news reports.

Subsequent review of the secured servers yielded proof that China, Iran, and Russia were involved in the attempted coup against President Donald Trump, who will be shown to have won an overwhelming victory for the American people, McInerney revealed.

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"These people have committed treason," declared McInerney. He pleaded with President Trump to not leave office until the treason is uncovered, otherwise America will be fatally wounded and ripe for takeover by our enemies.

McInerney also stated that he believes President Trump knew the steal was coming, hence his executive order issued for sanctions for interference in our elections by foreign powers.

According to his bio, McInerney was a forward air controller and fighter pilot during the Vietnam War and had flown 407 combat missions during his four tours of duty. In other words, a patriot and trustworthy.

Reports are now circulating that General Flynn is involved in helping the President with a private intelligence operation. ( Click to Source )

[Dec 01, 2020] Another day, another rumor

Dec 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Dominions software took third party votes and gave them to Cheating Joe Biden.

it also took Trump votes gave them to third party candidates then moved once again to Cheating Joe Biden.

wow wow wow

[Nov 30, 2020] Former Overstock CEO Paying 'Team Of Hackers And Cybersleuths' To Prove Trump Won Election

This guy was involved in Butina case and played in it a very dirty role.
Nov 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

That's accusations. where are the facts?

The 57-year-old multimillionaire also appeared on several podcasts, including a November 23 appearance in which he said: "I'm a free agent, and I'm self-funded, and I'm funding this army of various odd people," according to the Daily Beast .

"It's really going to make a great movie someday," he added.

Byrne claims he's funding teams of "hackers and crackers" who realized all the way back in August that Dominion voting machines could be used to steal the election from Trump . Since the election, those voting machines have figured prominently in Trump supporters' allegations of fraud, despite the company's repeated denials and any actual proof the voting tallies were changed. - Daily Beast

Byrne says he's been communicating with former Trump attorney Sidney Powell for weeks - who last week filed two lawsuits in Michigan and Georgia alleging massive schemes to rig the election for Joe Biden.

According to Powell's Georgia lawsuit: "Old-fashioned ballot-stuffing" has been " amplified and rendered virtually invisible by computer software created and run by domestic and foreign actors for that very purpose," adding that "Mathematical and statistical anomalies rising to the level of impossibilities, as shown by affidavits of multiple witnesses, documentation, and expert testimony evince this scheme across the state of Georgia."

In Michigan, Powell claims that "hundreds of thousands of illegal, ineligible, duplicate, or purely fictitious ballots" enabled by "massive election fraud" facilitated Biden's win in the state.

The suit claimed that election software and hardware from Dominion Voting Systems used by the Michigan Board of State Canvassers helped facilitate the fraud.

More via Natural News :

Speaking to Christopher McDonald of The McFiles in a recent interview, the former head of a $200 billion e-commerce company that has never once gotten hacked revealed that Dominion Voting Systems were used to perform a "Drop and Roll" technique of voter fraud that slyly padded the vote for Biden in at least five key swing areas of the country.

Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Maricopa County, Arizona (Phoenix) were all rigged prior to election day to strip President Trump of his rightful win in each of these states. Byrne also mentioned Clark County, Nevada (Las Vegas) as another election fraud locale, though this one was more secondary.

According to Byrne, who is not a supporter of President Trump but rather a "small l" libertarian, these five (or six if you include Clark County) areas are where a bulk of the election fraud took place. It did not have to be widespread because these were the key swing areas that Biden needed to "win" in order to steal the election.

" By cheating those five counties, you flip five key states, you flip the electoral college, " Byrne says. " In places where Trump lost by 10,000, there may be 300,000 fake, illegal votes for Biden. So this isn't even close. "

He further contends that the election systems that govern elections in America "are a joke," especially those run by Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic software.

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Is Byrne's 'army' Sidney Powell's research team?

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MadameDeficit , 4 hours ago

Do you really believe she was a Russian guns rights activist?

Doom Porn Star , 2 hours ago

Does it matter what I think about Butina? What matters is what I think about Byrne.

WHY did the FBI / DOJ need Byrne to spy for them?

What did Byrne get out of it? We may not know who Butina was working for; but, we sure do know who Byrne said he was working for.

Trump did NOT get money for speeches in Russia. -Bill Clinton did.

Trump did NOT get money from the wife of the Mayor of Moscow. -Hunter Biden did.

Trump did NOT sell off Uranium assets in the USA to Russian businessmen. -Hillary Clinton did.

Trump Jr. did NOT get a high paying no show gig @ Bursima. -Hunter Biden did.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/overstock-ceo-resigns-maria-butina

"In a strange, post-Mueller twist, the conviction of Maria Butina , the redheaded gun nerd and unregistered Russian agent , has led to the resignation of a prominent e-commerce executive. On Thursday, Overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne announced that he would step down from the company he founded, days after releasing a bizarre statement describing his involvement with Butina, the "Deep State," "Men in Black," and Russian-linked "political espionage" campaigns against Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. In a letter to shareholders, Byrne lamented that his continued presence at the company "may affect and complicate all manner of business relationships."

"While I believe that I did what was necessary for the good of the country, for the good of the firm, I am in the sad position of having to sever ties with Overstock, both as CEO and board member," Byrne said in the statement. The company's stock price had plummeted more than 40% in the days after Byrne first revealed his participation, earlier this month, in what he called a "political espionage" case involving Russia. Following his resignation, the company's market capitalization soared more than 8% .

It was an ignominious end for Byrne, a celebrity in Libertarian circles, whose labyrinthine involvement in the Russia scandal is difficult to verify. In an interview with journalist and Fox News contributor Sara Carter published last month, Byrne said he had been approached by Butina at FreedomFest in 2015, and came to suspect that she might be a Russian agent. Byrne reached out to the FBI to share his concerns, but, he said, was told to carry on with the relationship and report back. Over the next three years, he and Butina had a sporadic intimate relationship.

The story gets weirder from there. Byrne said he came to have doubts about his "nonstandard" relationship with the FBI and the intelligence community. He told Carter that he believed he "was being used in some sort of soft coup" against Trump. (Butina's lawyer confirmed the two had a relationship, while the Department of Justice said it could not comment.)

It wasn't until Byrne appeared on Fox Business Network, about two weeks later, that investors got spooked. Byrne claimed to have turned over evidence of a conspiracy involving Clinton and Trump. "I think we're about to see the biggest scandal in American history," Byrne told host David Asman. "Everything you think you know about Russia and Clinton investigations is a lie.... it was all political espionage. I think [Attorney General William Barr ] has gotten to the bottom of it."

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SO, Patrick Byrne the Deep State tool is back with another bombshell?

What happened to the last bombshell?

ALL Byrne has done so far is get in bed with the FBI / DOJ Russiagate team and get a Russian woman he was ckufing sent to prison and deported.

MadameDeficit , 2 hours ago

It's definitely a strange situation and relevant in terms of Byrne's potential motivation, but who she was working for is the most important question.

The whole thing reeks of Deep State entrapment so...I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Misesmissesme , 7 hours ago

So sad, that with all this evidence, a private citizen has to go to these lengths because Barr and Wray are so far in the pockets of the deep state.

Edit: by pockets, I meant a$$

TruthDetector , 4 hours ago

https://ncrenegade.com/editorial/general-mcinerney-us-military-personnel-killed-in-frankfurt-cia-server-farm-raid/

"There are many questions that are currently unanswered but there is one fact:

IF military personnel were killed by the CIA,

THEN the civil war between the people, the Deep State (and by extension, Russia, China & Iran) has started."

Doom Porn Star , 7 hours ago

Patrick Byrne wasn't a free agent when he helped the FBI send Russian guns rights activist Maria Butina to prison as part of the RussiaGate hysteria that was initiated by Hillary Clinton to discredit and villainize Trump.

littlewing , 7 hours ago

Barr is a Bushie.

Go watch the Bush Sr. funeral again and the cards they got during.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/060/262/801/original/5e88d8021ea1bbbf.mp4

Watch Biden get a card too, because the Bush Dynasty was both parties.

Clinton, Obama were also part of it.

Carter wondering why he didn't get one, turns to his wife and she didn't get one.

Notice Pence gets a card too, he is part of it.

Notice **** Cheney very aware of what is happening.

Dave Janda who worked in GHW Bush admin said he was a really bad guy and was involved in human trafficking too.

Sick Monkey , 6 hours ago

The boards on these machines are quite simple like a phone. They were reset asap along with any server data.

Nothing to see here unless operators are complete idiots. You need one of the boards to check for wireless device maybe but I doubt it.

One of Gulliani's witnesses said he witnessed usb dives inserted 24 times without proper chain of custody.

That's about as close as anyone will get to anything useful on the hardware.

Son of Loki , 7 hours ago

Dominion execs testified in Congress twice their machines could easily be hacked. Given the data we have so far, there is zero probability that Biden won with legal votes.

Someone Else , 6 hours ago

This is all catching on like wild fire for many people. Sadly not for many others. If you watch MSM (if you must) they still preface everything with "without evidence" and "baseless". We know that simply isn't the case but a lot of people who hear this enough believe it.

This is sewing discord between us who know and those kept in the dark. And its going to get real ugly. It's a crime what the MSM is doing. Almost like programming mindless soldiers with the WRONG program.

Doom Porn Star , 7 hours ago

Patrick Byrne, former CEO of Overstock.com , is an FBI stooge. He set up Maria Butina as part of the RussiaGate disinfo campaign.

Leftsmasher , 6 hours ago

570,000 Pennsylvania votes For Biden in two hours in the early morning is not "slyly" when the machines count 3000 per hour.

Ceickets feom Barr, busy getting ready for his next gig.

ze_vodka , 4 hours ago

At this point, we all need to realize that the election was entirely fake... and that they are never going to let the fraud be pulled back.

There are two choices left:

1. Accept their dystopian future for us Deplorables (across the globe, not just the USA)

2. Start doing something about it... start small and locally.

Onthebeach6 , 7 hours ago

The IT evidence is now overwhelming and I imagine it will be explained in detail to each of the Legislatures.

If Biden stood down now it might save the Democrats but I doubt Xi would contemplate the suggestion.

johnny two shoes , 7 hours ago

Of course that daily beast article frames it differently-

Former Overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne left behind a cloud of confusion when he resigned in 2019 from the internet retailer he'd founded after panicking investors with his bizarre claims that he had romanced a Russian agent at the behest of "Men in Black" working for the United States government.

Now he's back...

but it's noteworthy that the narrative has been breached at the daily beast- that Trump might be able to prove fraud.

philipat , 6 hours ago

It's a bit late for hackers isn't it? The machines are already off-line and probably already wiped in most cases ('in compliance with standard operating procedures").

MAYBE, the CIA machines seized in the DOD raids in Frankfurt and Barcelona might confirm "intervention" but we're running out of time. We'll see. Very soon.

philipat , 6 hours ago

He's also dodgier than a 3 Dollar Bill and has a VERY chequered past with allegations of CIA involvement. It should be of concern that he is involved/

SurfingUSA , 7 hours ago

You know who could SERIOUSLY use a donation, since Matt Braynard also seems well-funded, as well as Sidney Powell. Is Right Side Broadcasting, the ONLY outfit that is covering the PA & AZ Legislative hearings.

SurfingUSA , 7 hours ago

https://rsbnetwork.com/support-rsbn/

JaxPavan , 7 hours ago

We need an accurate, trustworthy voting system, no matter whether both "major" parties are a fake uniparty and both candidates suck.

ReadyForHillary , 7 hours ago

And all results must be open to full audit by independent parties. Otherwise, no deal.

Machines, code, ballots, signatures, everything. Individuals should be able to go online and check that their vote (or lack thereof) is accurate.

B52Minot , 7 hours ago

I am surprised as others about the silence of Barr....and Durham....two folks who should be all over this sorted and corrupt elections in which the Dem-China folks STOLE the election....and the evidence is THERE yet the Feds are so SO silent......makes no sense...and even Trump is wonder where they are when these folks work for HIM. Either Trump is play acting and the Barr/Durham folks are presenting something HUGE or their sense of defending our Republic and Constitution from these thieves is beyond distorted...it would be so SO un-Patriotic and un-American......Either they are silent doing God's work to defend this Country(and will show it soon) or they truly have lost their faith in this Great Nation.

Doom Porn Star , 35 minutes ago

I'm quite familiar with DeepCapture.

Byrne has been kvetching about Overstock being being the target of naked short selling and such for years. Old news. He's supposed to have plenty of money. I guess they didn't short his stack or he figured out how to hedge his position.

IMO, the guy is limited hangout or diversion/disinfo.

He quarterbacks for the swamp. Then he doesn't?

Known for running a successful honeypot trap for the Deep State.

Walking around with almost as much money as Jeffery Epstein?

[Nov 30, 2020] No matter how the situation develops Biden victory will be a Pyrrhic victory

Nov 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

likbez , November 30, 2020 at 02:21

@Christian Chuba | Nov 30 2020 0:28 utc | 63

I can't stand Powell, the American Thinker, or this math genius. They are making so many sensationalistic assertions, wreaks of propaganda, using phrases designed to stir up emotions.

I think they are trying to invoke foreign election interference act by claiming that Venezuela is connected to Dominion and was a part of voter fraud. See https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/

But with all her warts and penchant for self-promotion, Powell collected a very interesting stack of evidence. Her filing are historically important documents for any study of 2020 US Presidential Elections. Looks like in large cities Dems overplayed their hand with mail-in ballots. And this is provable.

That probably will not change the result of election as courts are reluctant to interfere in such cases, but it does make Biden victory a Pyrrhic victory. He will come to power as semi-illegitimate President, possibly with hostile to him Senate controlled by Republicans. Who probably will derail any of his initiative anyway, even if we assume that he has the courage to put any( I actually do not think so; he is a neoliberal, neocon and warmonger ). So forget about ending wars, securing more jobs by infrastructure upgrades, addressing mass unemployment, strengthening Social security, upgrading Medicare, fixing Obamacare. That will be Obama II or "Health of American global neoliberal empire is all the matter"

Looks like God has a very dark sense of humor, but DNC plutocrats might later regret about derailing Tulsi, Warren, and Sanders. By fixing Primaries (probably the same methods were used ;-) and propping semi-senile Biden they created unpredictable and dangerous situation, while simultaneously discrediting the US election system.

How it will develop is completely unclear, but the crisis of neoliberalism and stagnation of the US economy will stay as two critical factors. So this reminds me zugzwang situation in chess.

Moreover, even in a narrow context of elections, there are no good moves by Biden and all Obama honchos, as they were involved with Russiagate and Trump has a moral upper hand and he has the initiative.

Also the quote "Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad." is probably applicable here too. Biden behaves like nothing changed since 2016 and "Full Spectrum Dominance" policies (aka restoring American leadership) will work, which is a very dangerous delusion.

BTW there are discussions of Powell's filings and what it means for neoliberal Dems on YouTube by several pretty upscale lawyers, that I would recommend to listen to, if you have no time to read both documents.

[Nov 30, 2020] Election investigation coming- FBI said to be requesting data on 'potentially fraudulent ballots' -- RT USA News

Nov 30, 2020 | www.rt.com

The FBI has apparently reached out to a conservative organization and requested information that supposedly proves that Joe Biden won the presidential election using "hundreds of thousands of potentially fraudulent ballots."

In the uncertain days after this month's presidential election, the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society – a conservative legal nonprofit – teamed up with data analyst and former Trump campaign aide Matt Braynard to gather evidence of alleged voter fraud by the Democratic Party.

Braynard's data was used to inform a number of lawsuits by the Amistad Project, including cases in Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and the FBI is now apparently taking an interest in his research.

"The @FBI has proactively and directly requested from me the VIP findings that indicates illegal ballots," Braynard tweeted on Sunday, with "VIP" a reference to his investigation, which he named the "Voter Integrity Project."

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?creatorScreenName=RT_com&dnt=false&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1333042159981912067&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fusa%2F508172-fbi-illegal-ballots-braynard%2F&siteScreenName=RT_com&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=550px

In a tweet later on Sunday, Amistad Project Director Phillip Kline said that Braynard's data will be passed on to the agency. Kline added that the data "has been used to identify hundreds of thousands of potentially fraudulent ballots in the states where we filed litigation."

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?creatorScreenName=RT_com&dnt=false&embedId=twitter-widget-1&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1333080786564681735&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fusa%2F508172-fbi-illegal-ballots-braynard%2F&siteScreenName=RT_com&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=550px

Braynard's announcement is the first sign that the FBI may be taking an active interest in pursuing allegations of voter fraud. Earlier on Sunday, President Trump decried the agency, as well as the Justice Department, for their apparent inaction. Both the FBI and DOJ are "missing in action," he said, calling the lack of criminal investigation "inconceivable."

ALSO ON RT.COM Trump says FBI & DOJ 'MISSING IN ACTION' on alleged voter fraud, in first post-election interview

What the FBI decides to do with Braynard's information is unknown. Likewise, it is unclear how rigorous a case for fraud the former Trump aide's data makes. Braynard announced earlier that he will present this data to members of the Arizona State Legislature on Monday, as Arizona's secretary of state prepares to certify Biden's apparent win in the state.

Should Trump's legal options fail and the Electoral College certify Biden as victorious when it meets next month, Trump told reporters on Thursday that he would cede the presidency to his Democratic rival. However, Trump warned that certifying a Biden win would be a "mistake," and compared the election to a vote in "a third-world country."


Count_Cash 1 hour ago 29 Nov, 2020 04:48 PM

More investigations, the more transparency the better. I can't see why anybody would object to an FBI investigation covering election fraud. It does seem strange that there are loads of allegations, loads of affidavits and loads of court cases flying around and the FBI or DOJ are not looking into things.
Zeke Aln Count_Cash 38 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:35 PM
What grieves me, is the direct indications that the justice system is partisan, and true honest justice is null and void!
Bogie19 Count_Cash 50 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:23 PM
At this moment FBI @CIA are investigating the whole election and results , do you not trust the security services' of the USA, if your answer is no, then you are a revolutionist, hope that is not so, for your sake.
gambarota 1 hour ago 29 Nov, 2020 04:43 PM
trump's mistake . he did not take control of doj and fbi . on the other hand nobody will be able to accuse him of perverting justice.
trecasreca gambarota 54 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:19 PM
He has control over the government, but no one in his right mind will follow him. Smart people see that all this fuss was caused by his narcissism, not because there was some kind of mass theft of votes. Dozens of judges checked everything his lawyers presented and all but one lady said the same thing. No evidence, go home.
Averagewhite 43 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:30 PM
The question of voting fraud must be answered to protect the integrity of the voting system. If you do not investigate allegations of such fraud, you cannot ensure that integrity.
Zeke Aln Averagewhite 31 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:42 PM
Anybody can investigate, but if their declared findings are true or not would be my question...
White Elk 33 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:40 PM
They did not do their job with Kennedy assassination, they did not do their job on 9/11, they were slow or dumb during so called Russia gate, they were like deaf during a case of voter fraud made by the President himself. Maybe a few of their high ranking officials should be investigated? Is this a marshy area due to be drained?
Thesheperd666 53 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:20 PM
Are they gathering information for a real investigation or are they gathering up a huge "Wet" list for Hillary and others ? Strange how all the sudden the FBI wants to see what Trump has as evidence after all this time has expired. If I was a witness I would be running for the hills now !
Zeke Aln Thesheperd666 42 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:31 PM
To me, I question the FBI motive.... what is their real secret agenda?
velos 1 hour ago 29 Nov, 2020 04:51 PM
Opinion says: In November 2020 election, for the election of the President of the United States, a group of politicians, heads of state and media, completely humiliated the USA. !! and the image of serious country, is in danger of completely collapse.!!! about elections, now all people in world know what has happened!!
Zeke Aln velos 40 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:33 PM
Personally, I see the US image as haveing been greatly humiliating a long time ago!
T. Agee Kaye 35 minutes ago 29 Nov, 2020 05:38 PM
The FBI needs to visit the PA universities, and probably a great many others in the nation, and start asking questions about what was encouraged and happened there.

[Nov 30, 2020] I do not understand why you think the Democrats rigged the election. Did they rig it so Republicans would win 11 new house seats? Did they rig it so Republicans would win in NC, Texas and Florida?

The answer is that they concentrated on mail-in fraud for Presidential candidate in selected battleground states with large cities controlled by Democrats and states with Democratic governor. Florida does not have a democratic governor. But Orlando has a democratic major; BTW Florida uses Dominion too Certified Voting Systems and Vendors - Division of Elections - Florida Department of State
Nov 30, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

NancyK , 28 November 2020 at 01:13 PM

I do not understand why you think the Democrats rigged the election. Did they rig it so Republicans would win 11 new house seats? Did they rig it so Republicans would win in NC, Texas and Florida? Are all of the courts in collusion with the Democrats? There is no real evidence except for Giuliani and his wacky ideas. Let it go the the Supreme Court as Trump wants I don't think they will even touch it. Trump lost, Biden won. It is as simple as that. It is definitely
no fun to lose, but Trump will survive and probably make a lot of money in the process.

turcopolier , 28 November 2020 at 01:35 PM

NancyK

They rigged the presidential election. I don't care about Trump. He is relatively unimportant. It is the loss of control to you leftists that I fear and will resist.

turcopolier , 28 November 2020 at 03:17 PM

Nancy K

Your colleague Laura Wilson asks why the Dems did not rig all the elections up and down the ticket. Simple. This is an immense task. They simply did not have the resources or the time time to do all that.

akaPatience , 28 November 2020 at 03:32 PM


I share the colonel's suspicion that our judiciary will ultimately fall short when it comes to providing a just remedy for the most widespread reports and evidence of election fraud I've witnessed in my lifetime. The dismissive, jocular attitude that prevailed when Cook County, IL corruption was thought to have delivered victory to Kennedy over Nixon in 1960 is a harbinger, and seems small-scale compared to what's happened 60 years later. I hope the GA runoffs will avoid the corruption that seems to have taken place there earlier this month. A win by the Democrats will be catastrophic.

Like the very disappointing AG Barr - he who's given a lot of lip service and little else to the issue of government corruption/malfeasance we've witnessed these past few years - negligence, cowardice, resignation, laziness, complicity or a combination seem to guide those who we've unfortunately had to entrust to establish justice and to hold criminal wrongdoing accountable. Barr talks the talk but if he lets this election go by without making an effort to get to the truth, he has failed miserably.

The political, corporate and media establishment seem to resent that Deplorables refuse to be kept in the dark, refuse to acquiesce to their agendas. The censorious CEOs of social and mainstream media are trying to keep a tight lid on awareness of these matters of corruption. Could their efforts backfire and result in a boiling over?

I can't help but suspect that Obama and his minions are behind much of the ballot box stuffing/miscounting type of voter fraud that's allegedly occurred. The former community organizer could've easily waged a secret campaign to enlist accomplices all over the US who were willing to commit fraud to get Biden, and thus Obama's favorite, Harris, elected. Is it mere coincidence that the narcissistic former POTUS just happens to be promoting yet another biography at this moment in time? I don't think so.

Antoinetta III , 28 November 2020 at 05:55 PM

Nancy K:

These people are seriously infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome. They were maniacally focused on their sole obsession--dethroning the Orange King. I rather doubt that they thought about the down-ballot races much at all.

Antoinetta III

ked , 28 November 2020 at 06:51 PM


Col, Your assessment of why the Dems stole only the Presidential election is flawed. Given the theft claim is based upon access to vote-tabulating computer SW, it would be little additional effort to "do unto down-ballot races what was visited upon the top". Same algorithms... access to the db files... a few mods to executables & voila.

Face it... Trump was almost beaten by one of the worst candidates for pres in US history, & then wore out his welcome w/ the electorate through hard work every day he was on the job. HE blew it.

[Nov 30, 2020] 20 Alleged Election Facts That Don't Pass The Smell Test

Notable quotes:
"... To the Democrats on this site who say "suck it up it's over, we won". You think they cheated for your benefit? You think that the same people who are morally bankrupted enough to send mobs against good innocent people, burn cities, attack the elderly and children, and conspire to steal an election, won't do the same to you once your usefulness is done? ..."
"... You aren't entitled to your own facts; only our own facts ~Libclowns ..."
Nov 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

J.B. Shurk , who frequently publishes at American Thinker , wrote a knock-out article for The Federalist about Joe Biden's magical performance in the election. You should read the whole article, but here are four things that don't pass the smell test:

1. Biden allegedly got 80 million votes, which is more than Obama received at his peak, in 2008 – and Biden did this despite losing minority voters to Donald Trump and trailing Trump in voter enthusiasm.

2. Biden broke 60 years of precedent by winning nationally despite losing prodigiously in bellwether states and counties. The last time this happened was when the mafia got out the vote for John F. Kennedy in 1960.

3. Trump had extraordinary coattails, so much so that even the New York Times admitted that the "Democrats Suffered Crushing Down-Ballot Losses Across America." Think about that: Biden had no coattails and no enthusiasm, yet he allegedly won a record number of votes. Smells fetid to me.

4. Biden barely made it through the primaries, while Trump soared, with Trump's performance being a historically sure sign of voter enthusiasm and probable victory – yet Biden, again, allegedly scored an equally historically strong victory.

At The Spectator , Patrick Basham, a professional pollster, also felt that Biden's alleged win cannot pass the smell test. Again, this is a summary, so you should read the original article:

5. Trump exceeded his original vote count by the largest margin for any incumbent in American history. He got 10 million more votes than before; by contrast, Obama, in 2012, got 3.5 million fewer votes than in 2008.

6. Trump's support among blacks grew by 50%, while Biden's fell below the important 90%-mark that Democrat candidates need to secure victory.

7. In the Rust Belt, Biden lost black support everywhere except in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. In those cities, every single black person apparently voted for Biden.

8. While pollsters can and do manipulate polling outcomes , non-polling metrics (historical norms such as the economy, enthusiasm, etc.) have never been wrong – only we're being told that this year was the exception.

Then there are the indicia of fraud that Dr. Navid Kershavarz-Nia detailed :

9. The fact that Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia simultaneously pretended to halt ballot counting while continuing to count is evidence of election fraud collusion.

10. Optical scanners were set to accept unverified, un-validated ballots.

11. The scanners were almost certainly programmed to fail to keep audit records.

12. In the contested states, the voting machines were alleged to have processed hundreds of thousands of ballots within a short time, which is a physical impossibility.

And here are a few more indications of fraud:

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

13. In Pennsylvania, statistically impossible numbers of late-arriving mail-in votes went to Biden.

14. Dominion and ES&S voting machines were created to have back doors and specific functions to manipulate votes either at the machine or over the internet.

15. Fox News's behavior on election night (refusing to call pro-Trump outcomes while prematurely calling Arizona for Biden) was so abnormal that Vegas oddsmakers instantly assumed that the fix was in.

16. The allegedly late-arriving mailed-in ballots increased Biden's equally alleged lead with statistically impossible perfection and stability .

17. There were anomalies in Virginia that suggested that computers were subtracting votes from Trump and, sometimes, giving them to Biden.

18. One analysis shows that voting machines in Michigan systematically removed votes from Trump and handed them to Biden. I saw a rebuttal (which I cannot locate now) that purported to debunk this but did so by using a different scale on the X-axis, which I found inherently suspicious.

19. Over 100,000 Pennsylvania absentee ballots were returned either a day after they were mailed out, on the day they were mailed out, or on the day before they were mailed out.

20. In all the contested areas, and at Dominion's website, Democrats have been systematically failing to create or have destroyed all data that could be used to demonstrate fraud. This creates the legal presumption that the data do, in fact, show fraud.


PGR88 1 hour ago (Edited)

Here's another completely Furcked up statistic:

Biden won 17.4 percent of USA counties, a 220-year record low. He only won 524 counties (out of 3,007 total in the USA), as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes and supposedly won a "landslide" in electoral college votes.

Everybodys All American 1 hour ago

You only get eff-ed up stats like this when you have this kind of fraud. The senile Joe Biden could not get a hundred people to his rallies. That is as telling as anything else reported.

zerozerosevenhedgeBow1 33 minutes ago

The stench is overwhelming.

They can say or do anything and be as emboldened and fraudulent as they want. That's what happens when there are no repercussions or deterrents. In the good old days, to instill honesty and integrity, people and sometimes their whole family were executed, on display, in the public square or found after a gruesome demise.

Most importantly, when the news and social media are silent and run the opposite propaganda, then there is no crime awareness in most of the population, who get next to nothing as far as news each day. As a result, law enforcement and legislators won't go there.

Hyzer 1 hour ago

21. PA sent out 1.8 million absentee ballots but counted 2.7 million.

fnsnook 1 hour ago

they got away with 9/11. do you think they care if this makes sense or not?

PigMan 53 minutes ago

To the Democrats on this site who say "suck it up it's over, we won". You think they cheated for your benefit? You think that the same people who are morally bankrupted enough to send mobs against good innocent people, burn cities, attack the elderly and children, and conspire to steal an election, won't do the same to you once your usefulness is done?

History says you'll be building rafts for your grandchildren to help them escape what you helped bring on them.

ted41776 1 hour ago

i got a country song for ya, because WMDs n sh1t

https://youtu.be/Zj6rMcVNQbw

and now instead of just destroying the middle east we've got some more WMDs in the form of the scamdemic which we're using to destroy nearly the entire planet

lennysrv 32 minutes ago remove link

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."

--Attributed to Joseph Stalin

paul20854 25 minutes ago

Virginia had huge flips of votes in Fairfax County. 300,000+ for Biden and less than 10k for Trump in a high income district. Phony. Fake. Fraud.

TedW 1 hour ago

Just In: Secretary of State Raffensperger Approves Extended Mail-in Voting, Ballot Harvesting and Drop Boxes -- ASSURES DEMOCRAT STEAL IN GEORGIA RUNOFFS

TheZeitgeist 1 hour ago remove link

You aren't entitled to your own facts; only our own facts ~Libclowns

IridiumRebel 1 hour ago

"Facts do not cease to exist simply because they are ignored." ~Huxley

SamAdams 45 minutes ago (Edited)

Why is it so hard to believe that out of 570k votes received at 4am, all but 3k were for Biden?

[Nov 30, 2020] Now Trumpists added Russia to Venezuela. Nice fairy tale

So there were skirmish between DIA and CIA and some people got hurt, if we are to believe this guy. Are some retired US generals engage in some kind of disinformation compaign ?
Nov 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Bemildred , Nov 30 2020 12:04 utc | 97

This is sure getting interesting:

Lt Gen McInerney reported that US Special Forces 305 battalion attacked CIA server farm in Germany in server seizure operation. 5 soldiers and 1 CIA service member were allegedly killed during the operation.

Allegedly, the specialized software like Hammer and Scorecard was used on this facility. Hammer and Scorecard were created by the U.S. intelligence contractors and could be used to interfere in the U.S. presidential election in 2020.

"But the important thing is they identify China, Iran and Russia as being involved in this and manipulating the votes. In addition, the U.S. special forces command seized a server in Frankfurt, Germany, because they were sending this data from those five states or six states through the internet to Spain, and into Frankfurt, Germany. Special operations forces seized those facilities. So they have those servers. They know all the data they were providing."

Lt. General Michael Flynn claimed in his first interview since President Trump's pardon:

"Everything that we are experiencing right now actually is more that just an assault on President Trump. This is an assault on the American Republic."

LT. GENERAL MCINERNEY DISCLOSED THE KRAKEN'S IDENTITY

[Nov 30, 2020] Listen to General McInerney describe the Kraken and the raid of the CIA facility in Frankfurt, Germany.

Nov 30, 2020 | www.investmentwatchblog.com


Roberta M @BertmcdRm · Nov 28 Replying to @TheSharpEdge1 and @5sahandful Incredible, isn't it?!?! I've spread the word about this video all day. I hope everyone who has heard this, keep retweeting it as much as possible! Scary stuff, if Biden succeeds! America is indeed, on the Brink!!! George Papadopoulos @GeorgePapa19 "I think there is probably something in the emails concerning George Papadopoulos that maybe have her name in it," -- Senator Grassley On why CIA director Haspel is refusing to release the documents the President ordered to be declassified. RDS Koffi @das_koffi · 16h Replying to @GeorgePapa19 A big mistake putting Haspel in that position as CIA Director. Very disappointing. The damage is already done. The Golden Hand @BitcoinCultist · 15h Replying to @GeorgePapa19 How can the CIA refuse to declassify a document? Banana Republic. 1 5 32 RobinHodl - - DYOR @RobinHodl_ · 15h Replying to @GeorgePapa19 She is an employee, and insubordination is proper grounds for termination from employment. She should be fired and the DoD should be brought in to secure the documents. Gary Winkelman @GaryWinkelman1 · 14h Replying to @GeorgePapa19 She works for the Queen? Station Chief in UK prior?

[Nov 30, 2020] A post which refers to supposed DoD raids on 3 - letter server farms in Frankfurt - Barcelona - Toronto

Nov 30, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Petrel , 28 November 2020 at 11:19 AM

Fred -- Are you aware of DoD raids on 3 - letter server farms in Frankfurt - Barcelona - Toronto and that these servers are now under analysis by the DIA?

Sydney Powell referenced early findings from the raids in her Georgia / Michigan lawsuits and promised expert witnesses to follow in the Arizona Legislator meeting next week. Meanwhile, the Legislator meeting in PA has generated bills in both PA houses to withdraw 20 electors from Biden and give them to Trump.

Condolences to the families of 3 - letter contractors and DoD patriots who died in the Frankfurt confrontation. Congratulations to General Flynn retuned to the fight of suppressing enemies foreign & domestic.

[Nov 30, 2020] Fired director of US cyber agency Chris Krebs explains why he says vote was -most secure in Ameri

Note how he bypassed the problem of local administrators ( according to some data 2-6 for each site ) manipulating votes. He also does not explain strange pause in countering of votes in major battleground states. And the fact of deploying Dominion and other voting machines was at attempt to control voters and voting.
Yes there are some heuristically arguments on the contrary. For example why Florida was unaffected. But that does not change the fact that voting machines are evil and that they was corruption during their acquisition.
It is unclear how with strait face he can claim that systems based on Microsoft windows and connected to Internet can be secure. Or systems with Dominion technician having administrative access and implementing patches on their own schedules.
Nov 30, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Chris Krebs, a lifelong Republican, was put in charge of the agency handling election security by President Trump two years ago. When Krebs said the 2020 election was the country's most secure ever, Mr. Trump fired him. Now, Krebs speaks to Scott Pelley. https://cbsn.ws/3o6JayT

the_dead_poet , 32 minutes ago

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act". -- George Orwell

[Nov 30, 2020] http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Political_skeptic/Two_party_system_as_poliarchy/US_election_fraud/dominion.shtml

Nov 30, 2020 | www.softpanorama.org

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/071B7700117_Dominion_555356_7.pdf

I actually do not know what actually happened, but your defense of Dominion is pure technical nonsense and/or incompetence. This is a small office class system with consumer hardware, consumer OS and consumer hardware (on top of which there is some proprietary software) which is a dream for any intelligence agency to work with.

Posted by: likbez | November 30, 2020 at 01:35

[Nov 30, 2020] Cyber-security expert testifies under oath for the Powell legal team in Georgia - ample evidence exists that election fraud took place:

Nov 30, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Deap , 28 November 2020 at 11:34 AM

Cyber-security expert testifies under oath for the Powell legal team in Georgia - ample evidence exists that election fraud took place:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_smartest_man_in_the_room_has_joined_sidney_powells_team.html

Deap , 28 November 2020 at 11:36 AM

What did Stacy Abrams know and when did she know it, regarding Georgia election fraud?

BillWade , 28 November 2020 at 03:20 PM

Petrel, "Condolences to the families of 3 - letter contractors and DoD patriots who died in the Frankfurt confrontation. Congratulations to General Flynn retuned to the fight of suppressing enemies foreign & domestic."

Could you please provide a source for this information? Thanks.

NancyK, The 2020 election is not yet over. I remember when the 2016 election was over, there were no sour grapes from the Dems as I understand you have said. But what were those tens of thousands of women wearing some sort of genital hat the day after, what was that about? Why were they cheering a washed up entertainer named "Madonna" who was screaming and threatening to burn down the White House. Another women, a not so funny one, carrying around a severed Trump look alike head, did you laugh or just wish it were true? I distinctly remember antifa destroying cars, business windows, etc, just some kids having fun, no?

I learned of a Japanese Admiral who said, "I'm afraid we're about to waken a sleeping giant." I have to wonder if Biden isn't thinking the same thing.

It's a beautiful day in the Free State of Florida.


[Nov 30, 2020] I think we are all being spun by both sides so the truth is a little difficult. One has to follow the actual court filings.

Nov 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

circumspect , Nov 30 2020 4:55 utc | 85

As Krebs discussed, on 60 Minutes: 92% of ballots were paper or backed by paper. All the machine and hand recounts of paper ballots validated previous results. The machines were accurate (enough) before, during and after the election and produced that same results.

I think we are all being spun by both sides so the truth is a little difficult. One has to follow the actual court filings.

Actually a full recount has not yet happened in Georgia. They went through a canvass and a post-election audit which all the news organizations are calling a full recount. A canvass is looking for missing ballots, memory sticks, and the like. A post election audit takes a small sample is not a full recount.

Monday, they will be wiping voting machines to actually scan all the ballots hence more lawsuits to stop them from wiping the machines data so it can be preserved for analysis.

Since the actual action is not being reported in the main we have to look for it and I am not 100% sure I am following it correctly myself. I am 100% sure not to believe much of anything the MSM puts out.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18694655/7/1/pearson-v-kemp/

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ik3wu0xnzn1dkh/SECOND%20ORDER%20-%20PEARSON%20v.%20KEMP%2011.29.2020.pdf?dl=0

So the second order nullifies the first order to preserve data. The machines will be wiped 30 November 2020 and the ballots will be fed to perform a full recount. Naturally no human being wants to plow through his crap but as a former voter who gave up long ago I am collecting evidence and understanding for my county election board.

It is quite a stretch for Trump but it is interesting to see these allegations which have stretch back to at least 2006 in Congress.

What I remember happening is that at the end of the machine voting Trump had huge leads in the 5 swing states prior to the counting of the mail in ballots. Counting was allegedly stopped at around 11PM eastern time in the 5 swing states in question and then at 4am EST his lead evaporated. The MSM was telling us for weeks Trump would win the machine voting but lose the mail in. The pump was primed.

I think the fight is over were these votes injected from overseas through the Scytle server, were 100% of the mail in ballots legitimate, and was it fair to keep the observers from actually observing? They are also arguing the equal protection clause as used in 2001.

Granted Giuliani is a joke but Powell is no lightweight. Neither was Giuliani back in his pre-depends days. Hopefully we will obtain some sanity in our voting systems next go around. Somehow I doubt it.

[Nov 30, 2020] CIA Partners with Google, Amazon and IBM in Latest Big Tech Procurement Drive

Nov 30, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com

AWS currently holds the sole contract to provide cloud computing services to a number of intelligence agencies, including the FBI and the NSA. That contract is set to expire in 2023 and this new award – managed by the CIA – will further weaken Amazon's once privileged position in the federal money sweepstakes, which had already taken a hard hit when Microsoft was unexpectedly chosen over Bezos' company for the Department of Defense's own cloud services contract for the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure (JEDI) program.

The Central Intelligence Agency will take full advantage of its access to money without oversight to disburse the government funds at the agency's discretion. Although speculated to rise into the tens of billions, the CIA has no plans to disclose the real value of the C2E contracts. The Commercial Cloud Enterprise (C2E) procurement program was unveiled in February by the premier U.S. spy agency in a bid to establish a cloud computing service platform for the country's intelligence agencies separate from JEDI, which remains enmeshed in a protracted legal contest with AWS and is two years behind implementation.

... ... ...

In fact, such practices are an intrinsic part of the military industrial complex and its historical origins at the height of the British empire. The start of the Glorious Revolution in 1688 marked the beginning of 125 years of constant war for the global superpower of the day and the slow but inexorable rise of an industry of war made up exclusively of freelancers who would make the guns, rifles, and bullets their bloodthirsty Queen required.

As the empire grew, the processes for the production of weapons underwent a dramatic change from artisanal modes to full-fledged factory-style production; all spurred by the biggest army and navy in the world, which was pillaging and extracting resources to fuel the burgeoning enterprise of capitalism.

This period also fine-tuned the relationship between the state and independent contractors, with the former establishing laws governing them in order to leverage their overwhelming advantage. Other strategies were also employed to both suppress the price the Crown paid for materiel and to make sure that no single contractor held too big a stake in the supply chain.

In her book "Empire of Guns," Priya Satia details this entire process and destroys the myth that the Industrial Revolution was the result of a cotton-picking machine when even a cursory look at the history shows that it was guns and a state engaged in perpetual war that laid the foundations of our current economic paradigm.

Now, we stand on the threshold of the so-called "Fourth Industrial Revolution" in a world that has perfected weapons of war to atomic levels. New 'cyberweapons' are being forged and it is only fitting that the war industry, led today by the United States, would return to its origins to maintain its own monopoly on human suffering and devastation in the name of profit.

Return to the roots

The public-private partnership has been another significant trend that also mirrors a ubiquitous trend in Victorian England. But, in today's world, a parallel legal system has grown alongside the state's war industry and is also now at the disposal of the corporations who wish to dispute any deal, leading to considerable delays in the execution of contracts.

Cases like the JEDI suit affect the military readiness goals of the national security state if it cannot move forward with a particular initiative due to litigation. Another recent case is holding up the Cybersecurity Infrastructure and Security Agency's (CISA) efforts to centralize inflow and outflow of data regarding cyber-threats.

In October , the Government Services Agency (GSA), awarded a $13 Million-dollar contract to a company called EnDyna to "create a centralized database that agencies can use to report, discover and take actions against cyber threat information." A much larger competitor, HackerOne, filed a protest questioning the award on grounds of failure to meet eligibility requirements and the smaller company's competence to carry out the work.

Technicalities like these can hold up a project in court for years, so it makes perfect sense for the state-run war industry to return to its roots and apply the tried and true principles of divide and conquer against the people making their guns, whether real or virtual. By taking the first few spots on the Big Tech pecking order and putting them in a room to duke it out for a government contract, the war establishment is recognizing the growing power of these firms and is unleashing the CIA to curb it and diminish threats to the supply chain of the twenty-first century's permanent war economy.

Feature photo | The Central Intelligence Agency flag is displayed, partially cast in a shadow. David Goldman | AP

Raul Diego is a MintPress News Staff Writer, independent photojournalist, researcher, writer and documentary filmmaker.

[Nov 30, 2020] Sen. Paul Calls Out 'Anomalies in Vote Counts,' Big Tech by Eric Mack

Nov 29, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

Count Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., as an election "statistical anomaly" skeptic and one wary of big tech censorship of conservative voices.

Paul noted President Donald Trump's "margin of 'defeat'" was covered by overnight "data dumps" in four key battleground states.

Paul tweeted :

"Interesting . . . Trump margin of "defeat" in 4 states occurred in 4 data dumps between 1:34-6:31 AM. Statistical anomaly? Fraud? Look at the evidence and decide for yourself.(That is, if Big Tech allows u to read this) Anomalies in Vote Counts; https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020"

On cue, Twitter slapped a "this claim about election fraud is disputed."

Twitter has been using that to reject Republican attempts to contest the presidential election results amid evidence of illegal votes, including from those who are deceased, unconstitutional election law changes forced by courts and Democrat officials against the will of the state legislatures, and questions about election voting systems.

https://f076e88ed73cc2e7ed9702481791c51f.safeframe.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-37/html/container.html

The voting anamolies outlined by the report linked to by Paul are:

According to the data study:

"In particular, we are able to quantify the extent of compliance with this property and discover that, of the 8,954 vote updates used in the analysis, these four decisive updates were the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th most anomalous updates in the entire data set. Not only does each of these vote updates not follow the generally observed pattern, but the anomalous behavior of these updates is particularly extreme. That is, these vote updates are outliers of the outliers."

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[Nov 29, 2020] Sidney Powell to Newsmax TV- Dominion Contracts Warrant Criminal Probe

Notable quotes:
"... The $107 million contract awarded by Georgia for Dominion Voting Systems should be thoroughly investigated for potential "benefits being paid to family members of those who signed the contract," according to former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell on Newsmax TV. ..."
"... "I think there are multiple people in the Secretary of State's office and other that should be investigated in Georgia for what benefits they might have received for giving Dominion the $100-million, no-bid contract," Powell said. ..."
"... The Atlanta-Journal Constitution reported in 2019, however, Georgia did receive three bids for the new voting systems, with Dominion winning on being "the lowest-cost system among three companies that submitted bids." ..."
"... That contract was pursued by the state after Stacey Abrams never conceded to Gov. Brian Kemp in the 2018 midterm elections, claiming the Secretary of State and Kemp unlawfully ''suppressed'' votes by voiding registrations found to be illegitimate. ..."
Nov 29, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

The $107 million contract awarded by Georgia for Dominion Voting Systems should be thoroughly investigated for potential "benefits being paid to family members of those who signed the contract," according to former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell on Newsmax TV.

"There should be an investigation, a thorough criminal investigation, frankly, of everyone involved in acquiring the Dominion [Voting] System for the state of Georgia," Powell told Saturday's "The Count" hosted by Tom Basile and Mark Halperin.

"And frankly for every other state, giving how appalling the system is and the fact it was designed to manipulate the votes and destroy the real votes of American citizens who were casting legal votes."

Powell's investigation is turning up potential criminal allegations, including "money or benefits being paid to family members of those who signed the contract for Georgia."

"I think there are multiple people in the Secretary of State's office and other that should be investigated in Georgia for what benefits they might have received for giving Dominion the $100-million, no-bid contract," Powell said.

The Atlanta-Journal Constitution reported in 2019, however, Georgia did receive three bids for the new voting systems, with Dominion winning on being "the lowest-cost system among three companies that submitted bids."

That contract was pursued by the state after Stacey Abrams never conceded to Gov. Brian Kemp in the 2018 midterm elections, claiming the Secretary of State and Kemp unlawfully ''suppressed'' votes by voiding registrations found to be illegitimate.

[Nov 29, 2020] Powell wants impoundment of voting machines, suggesting overall strategy (see above) of gathering discovery globally.

Nov 26, 2020 | twitter.com
Derek (Lid on Likes) (#Kraken Emeritus) @PereGrimmer Nov 26
24/Let's start with the relief requested (inside out, this is the quick way to read motions since the relief requested dictates the relevance of everything else). They want impoundment of voting machines, suggesting overall strategy (see above) of gathering discovery globally.

[Nov 29, 2020] Powell filing in GA: The complaint was clearly rushed

Nov 29, 2020 | voxday.blogspot.com

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2020 Mailvox: an analysis of the Powell filing in GA

An experienced attorney analyzes Sidney Powell's legal filing in GA concerning the electoral fraud aided and abetted by GA politicians and election officials. The 104-page PDF complaint can be found here . Note that she also filed a lawsuit in MI , which is not analyzed here.

I have been a practicing attorney for 25+ years. The last 15 years I have spent mainly federal court representing persons accused of crimes, so I am quite familiar with federal court, federal procedure and other matters. Here is my take on Ms. Powell's complaint. I aim to be dispassionate, not because I do not care but because we should be honest. I am not going to smooth over issues just because I hope Ms. Powell wins.

My point is to give background and overview and to advise on what to watch in the future. I have tried to make this post generally neutral and informative. I could not locate exhibits, which are crucial, but they are cited many times in the complaint. So, here are my few observations as an attorney with decades' in federal court:

1. In early October, 2020, a federal district judge in this same district (Northern District of Georgia) ruled after several years of litigation that the Dominion software used to monitor this election has substantial issues and it will affect an election. The Plaintiffs were Democrats who filed suit in response to the 2016 election. They sought an order forcing Georgia to use different software. They conducted discovery and hearings over years, including 3 days of expert testimony about how these very voting machines work. The court ultimately denied the request because it was simply too late to change the voting machines since the election at that time was roughly a month away. New cases are supposed to be assigned to judges randomly but I would not be surprised if this case were given to that particular judge since she spent so much time reviewing the litigation and conducting evidentiary hearings. Her findings of fact could be incorporated into this hearing under the legal theory of res judicata.

2. The complaint was clearly rushed. At times it was rough and unpolished. There were numerous grammatical errors. But the gist is quite clear and it is clear that the lawyers drafting the complaint certainly knew what they were doing. They dotted the 'I's and crossed the 'T's so the complaint is not likely to be kicked on a procedural or jurisdictional claim such as standing (a legal doctrine that says that someone who brings a lawsuit must have skin in the game), but I would expect a more polished product if they had more time. However, the copy I have does not have the blue ECF 'filed' stamp, so this may not be the final complaint that gets filed. That becomes really important below.

3. The complaint makes good use of a wide variety of legal sources from both political parties (specifically naming a statement from Democratic Senators Warren, Klobuchar and Wyden from 2019) regarding Dominion software, including evidence from the previous litigation. Essentially the plaintiffs say, among other things, "Look, for the past 15+ years, Republicans, Democrats and a wide variety of international media groups have pointed out the problems with Dominion software so it shouldn't be a surprise we are here. And the very problems they have pointed out are problems we see in this election."

4. The complaint relies upon a variety of evidence to support its claim. One is an examination of the history of Dominion software. another is expert testimony regarding the voting patterns seen in this election. Another is eyewitness testimony of ballot switching. Another is evidence of votes being case by ineligible persons. Another is evidence of a pattern of similar conduct in several high population counties. Viewed together, Plaintiffs make a strong case. But it's one thing to say something and another to prove it.

5. One area where plaintiffs do a good job is in pointing out the number of votes affected by the alleged fraud. One reason this is crucial is that Biden's certified margin of victory in Georgia was only about 12,000 votes. And the complaint does a good job of laying out substantial procedural and constitutional irregularities with roughly 96,000 votes and further problems with additional votes. The problematic votes far outnumber Biden's margin of victory, which is hugely significant. Put another way, if Biden wins by 500,000 and they claim that there are problems with 100,000 votes, even if those 100,000 votes are gone, Biden still wins. If the problem votes are gone, Biden's victory may be gone as well. The complaint does a good job of pointing out not just the alleged problems but the number of votes affected by those problems.

6. What now? The plaintiffs are asking for an evidentiary hearing. That would allow them to present evidence in the form of witness testimony, expert testimony and exhibits that would support their claim. Because it is a civil case, they only have to prove their case by a preponderance of evidence, that is, they only have to prove that it was more likely than not that there was fraud and that the fraud influenced the election. They do not have to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

The court may refuse an evidentiary hearing, in which case Plaintiffs would appeal and argue that they should be given hearing. Given the evidence laid out, I expect that the court will at least order an evidentiary hearing that will be conducted on an expedited scale. (it helps that there's an evidentiary hearing set in Nevada). After the evidentiary hearing, the court can grant their request, which would be to de-certify the election and force a manual re-count/audit overseen by independent auditors to verify each vote. Or the court could deny it. Realistically this case is likely to be appealed, which is one reason that the District (trial) court is likely to hold an evidentiary hearing. Because an appeal is almost certain no matter who wins the case, the judge's legal decision in this case is likely not nearly as important as the judge's factual decisions. The judge's factual decisions will likely be relied upon by appellate judges even if they disagree with the judge's legal conclusions. If there is an evidentiary hearing, pay careful attention to the judge's factual findings, especially as described below.

7. What to look for. There are a few things to watch for if there is a hearing. For one, federal (NOT state, and this is hugely important for federal jurisdiction) law requires that all records related to the election of a President, VP and senators be kept for at least 22 months after an election. If the court sets a hearing, watch for a request for that evidence. If the court orders an evidentiary hearing, I would expect the court would order that evidence provided to the Plaintiffs and to the court. If that evidence is not provided, that is, if the Georgia Division of Elections does not have the data that is required by the federal statutes, there will be hell to pay. I cannot imagine that anybody would be so monumentally stupid as to either erase such information or to not keep such information. However, Plaintiffs specifically allege that the voting machines do not keep copies of original paper ballots and are designed to avoid this audit trail. See ¶98 of the complaint. This is one area where the complaint's rushed nature is an issue, although the complaint does not appear to be filed because it's missing the blue ECF numbers showing it has been filed. Maybe the copy I got is just a leaked rough draft.

In making this allegation, the complaint quotes some findings and includes a footnote that should have the citation for what was quoted. That particular footnote, number 14, is missing. Having worked with Word to include footnotes, it would not surprise me if it were deleted accidentally during formatting. If this is the complaint that gets filed, I expect that given the time constraints Plaintiffs counsel will soon seek to file an amended complaint and include footnote 14. If that footnote is still missing, it looks really bad for Plaintiffs. If that footnote is included and their allegations about the lack of a paper trial in Dominion machines is true, that single factual finding alone is enough to derail any certified election results from states relying upon Dominion machine. I am not joking. The statute that requires election officials to keep records is a criminal statute, meaning that election officials who willfully do not keep such records can go to prison. Whether they will or not is not the issue. The issue is that this will be a crucial matter to look at because if nothing else, Plaintiffs can say, "Here are major voter irregularities and if the defendants had followed the law, this court would have had the evidence to determine whether these irregularities are just an odd statistical coincidence or based on fraud. But defendants deprived the court of the ability to do its job despite their clear legal obligation to do so." That's not really where the defendants want to be.

The plaintiffs will also seek to compare votes cast with voter registration, specifically people that have moved from Georgia and are no longer eligible to vote. Plaintiffs allege that over 20,000 votes were cast by people who had moved out of Georgia and were no longer eligible to vote. Strike those 20,000 votes as illegitimate and who knows what happens to Biden's lead. These two issues are huge because they are black and white. There can be no reasonable dispute. Either they have the records or they don't. Either 20,000 votes were cast by non-residents or they weren't. If Plaintiffs can prove these two points, the court is likely to give them wider latitude about other matters. If they can't prove these two points, Plaintiffs will find their case is much harder than anticipated.

8. After that, there are other evidentiary issues on which the court may or may not take evidence. Plaintiffs make a big deal about how the 'water leak' at election headquarters was fraudulent and resulted in only a few people being along with voting machines for several hours. I anticipate the court will take some evidence on that but it won't be enough for Plaintiffs to prove that the voting machines were unsecured on election night through the defendants' fraud. Plaintiffs will have to prove that during that time votes were actually altered in some way, that is, deleted or switched from one candidate to another or added or something and they must prove that the number of altered votes would be within the margin of error for the Biden victory margin. This ties in with the audit trail. Put another way, if Plaintiffs can show that: 1) the water leak was non-existent; 2) that as a result of the 'water leak,' the machines were in the hands of just a few people for several hours; 3) that in those hours the voting pattern changed dramatically and unpredictably, then Georgia better have those machines and those machines better have an audit trail or some judges are not going to be happy.

There are similar lawsuits pending in several other states and issues dovetail with this one. A judge in Nevada has ordered an evidentiary hearing on December 3. That hearing focuses upon fraud in mail-in ballots, which is not so much the focus here. The focus here is more on problems with Dominion software, which will be harder to prove, although the lack of an audit trail will be crucial for this issue. Plaintiffs will catch a big break if the judge who did the litigation on Dominion software gets this case because the judge will know the issues with Dominion and have the background to get up to speed quickly. If the judge who handled the Dominion litigation handles this one, she would be able to get an opinion out fairly quickly because she already wrote a 150 page opinion about the problems with Dominion. If she gets an opinion out while litigation about Dominion is pending in other states or appellate courts, look for Plaintiffs/Trump to use the decision to try to influence the other cases involving Dominion, especially if she makes a factual finding that the machines do not have an audit trail and this is by design.

I have no idea about the likelihood of success. Plaintiffs make an excellent argument. That is, what they allege is indeed serious. It's not a complaint that you read and wonder "What the hell were these lawyers smoking when they filed this?" Maybe Plaintiffs are wrong. Maybe they can't prove what they allege. But that is different than "what were they smoking?" If they can prove what they allege, the court has the power to grant their request to de-certify the election and audit the votes. But courts are generally loathe to overturn elections. If the Plaintiffs' evidence (key word is evidence, not allegations) ultimately comes down to really improbable voting patterns, Plaintiffs are not likely to win. Plaintiffs need to be able to say, "Here is how voter fraud occurred and here are the number of fraudulent votes cast/changed/deleted/added because of that fraud." If they can't do both, or at least do both in sufficient numbers to cast Biden's margin of victory into doubt in Georgia, they won't win. If they can do both, this case will get real interesting real fast. If this court finds that Dominion voting machines do not keep records that allow an audit of votes in a Presidential election despite a clear federal statute to do so, then I truly have no idea where this ends up. In that case, I am truly glad that RBG is not on the court any longer.

On one last note in an already too-long email, it will be irony of ironies if the Dominion software litigation in Georgia turns out to be the key to this whole thing when it was Democrats themselves who started that litigation in response to the 2017 election.

UPDATE: the shill response to the GA filing is "LOL, spelling errors!"

The one things judges hate, even the most conservatives ones, is when you start making a mockery of the court. Going to court unprepared and will spelling errors is just going to get on the judges bad side.

Oh, the irony.... The Dunning-Kruger is strong in this one.

UPDATE: This subsequent post by the original poster, made prior to the Powell filing, appears to be accurate:

We haven't heard from the higher ups in hours. I haven't been told to worry yet, but the shift around here is palpable. The suit is...comprehensive. A lot of it talks about the Dominion software and the pay-to-play implications of having it installed in Georgia, the modifications to the system and the alleged money that changed hands between officials at dominion and state officials in Georgia. There's a lot of discussion about some executive for Dominion that made a bunch of red flag modifications to the system right before the election that were against protocols or something. Then there is a lot from whistleblowers who testify to taking part in vote switching and ballot adding.

There are 8 references to Dominion CEO Eric Coomer across 4 pages of the filing. There is also an amount of testimony from whistleblowers. B November 26, 2020 7:39 AM

"In early October, 2020, a federal district judge in this same district (Northern District of Georgia) ruled after several years of litigation that the Dominion software used to monitor this election has substantial issues and it will affect an election. The Plaintiffs were Democrats who filed suit in response to the 2016 election. They sought an order forcing Georgia to use different software. They conducted discovery and hearings over years, including 3 days of expert testimony about how these very voting machines work. The court ultimately denied the request because it was simply too late to change the voting machines since the election at that time was roughly a month away."
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So this judge ruled that the Dominion software could improperly affect an election but said it was OK to use it in the November 2020 Presidential election "because it was simply too late to change the voting machines since the election at that time was roughly a month away."

What's wrong with this picture?? This is nuts! tuberman November 26, 2020 8:39 AM

12. glueballs

>> The courts and legislature will strain mightily to avoid a Rubicon crossing. This is both good and bad for us.

Yeah, you have to be correct with this assessment. Yet, the other side is all-in, so even with these forces doing their best to avoid chaos, chaos will still happen. The Globalists will deny the courts and legislature findings that go against their wishes. I know you understand this.

The outcome: To stop the chaos that globalists will throw at the country, after they lose, will take something almost the same as Crossing the Rubicon.

It will be done.
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And, Have a Great Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it. . RC November 26, 2020 9:46 AM

I read through both GA and MI last night. Their must have been a reason that they wanted to file by midnight because both complaints looked very rushed and put together by sleep-deprived attorneys, especially Michigan's.

Both are substantive and engage the enemy, focusing on the 14th. I'll pull the PACER versions shortly and see if I can get the exhibits. Up from the pond November 26, 2020 10:32 AM

"If the Plaintiffs' evidence (key word is evidence, not allegations) ultimately comes down to really improbable voting patterns, Plaintiffs are not likely to win."

Yes, but getting geeks to understand that is like pulling teeth.

Another non-geeky suggestion: for the entire length of any hearing, the court needs to experience the following. Hundreds of truckers clogging the streets around the courthouse, blowing their horns continuously. And protestors gathered in the lobby with Trump flags, chanting "STOP THE STEAL." Latigo3 November 26, 2020 10:55 AM

Thank you for this post, a lot of information to digest, but well worth it. I think it has been mentioned, but just the name chosen for the software company is interesting to say the least. Looking at their page response for November 25th is funny, why is everything in bold caps? Why are you having to shout so much? As Shakespeare wrote, "the lady doth protest too much, methinks". Cinqueports November 26, 2020 11:40 AM

1. The Complaint as filed should be available on PACER. I don't have my PACER login information on my laptop, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to access it on my office desktop. I doubt that this is the final filing - lawyers and their staff will almost always do a spelling and grammar check in Word before converting to PDF for filing.
2. A Complaint like this is ordinarily accompanied by a motion for temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction. A TRO can be granted ex parte for a period of 14 days and extended for another 14 days for "good cause." A motion for a TRO must be accompanied by proof that the opposing parties have been notified of the filing or that diligent efforts have been made to provide such notice. This explains why the first poster would have had access to a copy before the Complaint was filed.
3. The grant or denial of a TRO is not appealable. However, the grant or denial of a preliminary injunction is immediately appealable. A court's failure to set a prompt date for a hearing on preliminary injunction can be compelled by mandamus to the Circuit and by like proceedings in SCOTUS if the Circuit fails to act promptly. The Circuit Justice for GA is Thomas. That is important.
4. The attorney is correct that the Circuit and SCOTUS can reverse a District Court judge on legal errors without any deference to the trial judge (plenary review). Factual findings may be overturned for "clear error." Clear error is a high burden, but not impossible. If the evidence supporting fraud is not dependent solely upon the credibility of witnesses (e.g., it is corroborated by hard data that can be definitively authenticated) that burden is more easily overcome.
5. I have a slight disagreement regarding res judicata - which can only be applied if the party or parties against whom it is invoked was a party to the original proceeding.
6. If the defendants cannot produce the required election audit trail then that raises the issue of spoliation of evidence. If evidence that should be there cannot be found, then a finder of fact can infer that had the records been produced they would have been unfavorable to the party with a duty to produce them.
7. Missing records can be important in another way. A plaintiff need not prove a negative proposition. If the records that could have either proved or disproved a fact go missing due to malfeasance of any sort then the burden of proof can shift. And that is a legal proposition, not a factual one (important for appeal purposes as noted above).
8. Whether the original poster is genuine or not is unknowable. But his story is entirely plausible.

[Nov 29, 2020] Powel is inclined to go to extremes and exaggerate oe even simply invent things (and repeat unsubstantiated rumors); this is not a sign of a good lawyer

Nov 29, 2020 | voxday.blogspot.com

Mailvox: A second opinion

A second lawyer writes of his initial impression of Powell's GA lawsuit.

[Nov 29, 2020] Legal group files lawsuit challenging more than 200,000 ballots in Georgia

Nov 29, 2020 | justthenews.com

A conservative legal group filed a lawsuit Wednesday arguing that more than 200,000 votes in Georgia may have been either illegally counted or improperly uncounted, a number that dwarfs the current lead Joe Biden enjoys over President Trump in the state's official tally.

The Thomas More Society's Amistad Project announced its latest battleground state litigation, claiming government data indicates that "well over 100,000 illegal votes [in Georgia] were improperly counted, while tens of thousands of legal votes were not counted."

The alleged ballot errors "undercu[t] the integrity of the general election," Amistad Project Director Phill Kline said in a press release.

The group alleged that "systematic failures by state and local election officials" were facilitated by "private monies donated by Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg through a leftist organization called the Center for Tech and Civic Life." That group has been the subject of scrutiny for its receipt of hundreds of millions of dollars from Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan ostensibly to be spent on local election infrastructure throughout the country.

[Nov 29, 2020] In early October, 2020, a federal district judge in this same district (Northern District of Georgia) ruled after several years of litigation that the Dominion software used to monitor this election has substantial issues and it will affect an election.

Nov 29, 2020 | voxday.blogspot.com

B November 26, 2020 7:39 AM

"In early October, 2020, a federal district judge in this same district (Northern District of Georgia) ruled after several years of litigation that the Dominion software used to monitor this election has substantial issues and it will affect an election.

The Plaintiffs were Democrats who filed suit in response to the 2016 election. They sought an order forcing Georgia to use different software.

They conducted discovery and hearings over years, including 3 days of expert testimony about how these very voting machines work. The court ultimately denied the request because it was simply too late to change the voting machines since the election at that time was roughly a month away."

So this judge ruled that the Dominion software could improperly affect an election but said it was OK to use it in the November 2020 Presidential election "because it was simply too late to change the voting machines since the election at that time was roughly a month away."

What's wrong with this picture?? This is nuts!

pyrrhus November 26, 2020 7:48 AM

I'm a former litigator in Illinois...Obama "won" his first election against a popular incumbent who was a civil rights pioneer by claiming fraud in her nominating petition signatures, which is seldom successful...But Obama had friends...

In general, I agree that courts are reluctant to overturn elections for vote fraud, despite the theoretically low standard of proof, but that is more for personal, political and societal reasons than legal reasons...

pyrrhus November 26, 2020 7:57 AM

Courage is not common anywhere in our society, and certainly not on the bench...

Unfortunately, that has protected the politically connected fraudsters to the extent that vote fraud has completely destroyed the two party system in Illinois, with Democrats running everything and the State being bankrupt....

The same would happen if Democrats prevail in this election.

[Nov 29, 2020] Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a "burst pipe" at Atlanta's State Farm Arena that was blamed for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night.

Nov 29, 2020 | voxday.blogspot.com

Avalanche November 26, 2020 8:39 AM

@9 ""Burst pipe" who was called in to at least shut off the water...

Yeah... except ... as always, go overseas to get closer to the truth?

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/slow-leak-text-messages-cast-doubt-on-georgia-officials-burst-pipe-excuse-for-pause-in-counting/news-story/19176f5113512210517c82debe684392

Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a "burst pipe" at Atlanta's State Farm Arena that was blamed for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night.

The only evidence for the burst pipe, released under freedom-of-information laws, was a text message exchange in which one senior employee at the stadium described it as "highly exaggerated a slow leak that caused about an hour and a half delay" and that "we contained it quickly – it did not spread".

"Beyond the lack of documentary evidence of the inspection or repair of a ruptured pipe, we are being asked to believe that there is not one single picture of this allegedly ruptured pipe, at a time and in a place where virtually everything is recorded and documented," Georgia lawyer Paul Dzikowski, who obtained the text messages, told news.com.au in an email on Wednesday night.

Good article and good on GA lawyer and the Georgia Open Records Act requester!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-open-records-request-finds-no-invoices-work-orders-reported-election-day-water-main-break-atlanta-found/

[Nov 29, 2020] Was Election Software Rigged?

Nov 18, 2020 | twitter.com

Assuming that the deep state doesn't favour Biden, or pretending that the election wasn't fixed in favour of the Democrats, is astonishingly misinformed. Also, should we defend the principle of democracy or not? Got a better option?

Just before the election, I said that the main targets include the CIA, FBI, etc.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/15/sidney-powell-were-fixing-to-overturn-the-election-results-with-new-evidence-n2580118

Sidney Powell Lays Out the Trump Team's Findings.

Nov 15, 2020

According to Powell, the Trump campaign has enough evidence to launch a serious criminal investigation.

"We're fixing to overturn the election results in multiple states and President Trump won by not just hundreds of thousands of votes but my millions of votes that were shifted by this software that was designed expressly for that purpose," Powell explained. "We have sworn witness testimony about why the software was designed. It was designed to rig elections."

According to Powell, the witness that the Trump team has is someone who has seen elections rigged in other countries. Those same tactics and software were allegedly deployed to the United States.

"They did this on purpose. It was calculated. They've done it before," she said. "We have evidence of 2016 in California. We have so much evidence I feel like it's coming in through a fire hose."

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Sidney Powell interviewed by Maria Bartiromo on Sunday Morning Futures: CIA May have Used Dominion for Its Own Benefit
Nov 15, 2020 @5:25: [it] makes me wonder how much the CIA has used [this software] for its own benefit in different places . . .

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Xk2nWOHM7ug

Hello Lost in a dark wood: Thanks for posting this interview. Notice how Ms Bartiromo is pressuring Ms Powell to disclose sensitive legal information throughout the presentation? This is one of the main reasons "investigative" journalism has been reduced to Facebook and Twitter exercises in finger pointing. I guess a juicy news "scoop" sells more advertising

I repeatedly posted comment regarding fraudulent software used in early Die Bold voting machines before this "election" took place. Numerous web sites refused to publish the material Pajays Nov 16, 2020 4:23 PM

Reply to Lost in a dark wood

Either way, you're still going to get vaxxed. The WEF agenda marches on. All this stolen election charade is distraction for the Operation Warp Speed rollout, the next step in the Great Reset, the Fourth Industrial Revolution, where man and machine are hybridized, starting with "vaccines" that modify your own genetic makeup and cause you to become attached to the "cloud" "vaccine" by "vaccine," like the Windows updates. Moderna = "Modify" your "RNA." Lost in a dark wood Nov 16, 2020 5:34 PM

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Did US military and law enforcement raid a CIA facility in Germany?

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Unraveling the Latest Deep State Coup
By Larry Johnson

Nov 16, 2020

I am reliably informed that a unit under the command of USEUCOM (i.e., United States European Command) did in fact conduct an operation to take control of computer servers. But these servers belong to the CIA, not Dominion or Sctyl. The U.S. military has full authority to do this because any CIA activity in the European theater is being conducted using military cover. In other words, CIA officers would be identified to the German government (and anyone else asking) as military employees or consultants.

Such an operation would have been carried out with U.S. law enforcement present to take custody of the evidence. That means that the evidence will be under the control of the Department of Justice through US Attorneys and can be used in court or other judicial proceedings.

This is not the first time that a military unit attached to EUCOM has compelled a CIA computer facility to hand over evidence. A dear friend of mine (a retired DEA officer) told me about an incident where he entered a CIA facility in Frankfurt backed up by the US Army to get info the CIA was withholding (this took place in the 1980s).

I also have confirmed what Jim Hoft reported the other night–the CIA's Gina Haspel was not informed in advance of this operation. Based on this fact, I think it is correct that action was taken in Germany on territory under U.S. control and that a CIA facility was targeted.

I also have learned that FBI Director Christopher Wray was excluded from this operation. Wray, more than Haspel, has been working aggressively to undermine and sabotage Donald Trump. This means that some other U.S. law enforcement agency (e.g., US Marshals, DEA, Secret Service, etc) had the lead in collecting the evidence. DunGroanin Nov 16, 2020 7:15 AM

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[Nov 29, 2020] If there's fraud in the 2020 election, then we must find it by Devine

Nov 29, 2020 | nypost.com

There's more evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 election than there ever was of Russia collusion, so America is owed a legal examination of the election irregularities alleged by the Trump campaign. It's not crazy to say this, despite the gaslighting from much of the media.

Basically, the election is down to roughly 120,000 votes of almost 150 million votes cast. That's 0.08 percent, a tiny margin by anyone's reckoning.

Recounts have been ordered. President Trump's campaign is challenging hundreds of thousands of votes in the courts .

It is not outlandish or unprecedented to accept the possibility that at least some of those margins may be erroneous, whether through human error or, indeed, fraud. Electoral fraud is not unknown in America. Probably the most famous example was in 1960, when Chicago Mayor Richard Daley allegedly rigged the ballot for John F. Kennedy, dead people were found to have "voted" and 677 election officials were indicted.

Due to the pandemic, around 40 percent of votes in Tuesday's election were cast by mail, double the percentage in 2016. Even the New York Times once reported the truth that mail-in voting is the most vulnerable to fraud. This is why most developed countries ban the practice.

So, as you can see, it is perfectly reasonable in such a close election to take seriously allegations of irregularities and suspicious activity. An honest media would investigate rather than dismissing the allegations out of hand as "baseless," "false" and "conspiracy theories."

SEE ALSO Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani teases up to 10 new election lawsuits

The Trump campaign's legal team, led by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani , claims that, in Pennsylvania alone, 600,000 ballots are in question because they were counted without any poll-watchers observing to ensure they were legitimate, as state law requires.

In Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Giuliani says that "50 to 60 poll-watchers will all testify that they were uniformly deprived of their right to inspect any single part of the mail-in ballots Not a single one was inspected as the law required. Even when a court order was obtained to allow the Republican inspectors to get six feet closer, they moved the people counting the ballots six further feet away.

"It's really simple. If you have nothing to hide with these mail-in ballots, you allow inspection."

Giuliani has promised one lawsuit will be filed today and four more by the end of this week.

Another Trump team lawyer, Sidney Powell, claimed yesterday that 450,000 ballots had been found with only votes for Biden and no down-ballot selections, which she regarded as suspicious.

She also claimed in an interview on Fox News that two pieces of software called Hammer and Scorecard were used to flip votes from Trump to Biden in some pre-election voting ballots.

As well, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced Saturday an "issue involving reporting" of votes in Fulton County on Friday, and said he had sent "investigators onsite."

Sen. Lindsey Graham , chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a statement that he will be investigating "all credible allegations of voting irregularities and misconduct" after receiving a sworn affidavit from Pennsylvania postal worker Richard Hopkins alleging that Erie Postmaster Robert Weisenbach had told workers he was "back-dating the postmarks on the ballots to make it appear as though the ballots had been collected on November 3, 2020 despite them in fact being collected on November 4 and possibly later."

Graham (R-SC) also yesterday claimed that in Pennsylvania, the Trump team has found "over 100 people they think were dead but 15 people that we verified that have been dead who voted Six people registered after they died and voted."

All of this may not amount to a hill of beans. But it deserves to be examined, or otherwise 71 million people who voted for Trump may end up believing the election was stolen.

"This is no longer about any single election," Trump said in a statement over the weekend, calling for full transparency in vote counting and election certification.

"This is about the integrity of our entire election process."

Quite right.

Whatever comes of the allegations, in reality, nothing is more important than two Georgia US Senate runoffs, on which control of the Senate may depend.

Since neither of the Republicans, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, has reached the 50 percent threshold in votes required under Georgia law to win outright, there has to be a redo on Jan. 5 .

SEE ALSO Lindsey Graham demands DOJ probe of late-ballot plot in Pennsylvania

If they both were to lose, the US Senate would be deadlocked 50-50, with the vice president, Kamala Harris, having the deciding vote. In other words, the Democrats would be in control and nothing would impede their radical agenda, including the Green New Deal, packing the Supreme Court and adding two new states.

In the end, it's worth remembering that the situation we are in today is not unprecedented.

It took 37 days for the legal battles to be sorted out after the very close 2000 election, and George W. Bush to be declared the winner.

So why the unseemly rush now for Biden to declare victory, as he did in one of his weird car park appearances Saturday night ?

His son Hunter Biden, currently under FBI investigation, was on stage, fully clothed and minus the crack pipe, which was nice.

Of course, Trump's team will have to provide concrete evidence of systemic fraud enough to flip the election result in enough states to make a difference to the outcome.

It's a very high bar, so I wouldn't be holding my breath.

But it's 2020. Stranger things have happened.

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Remarkably enough, there are now three justices of nine on the Supreme Court who were on the Bush legal team during the contested "hanging chads" election in 2000. They were the recently confirmed Amy Coney Barrett, the disgracefully maligned Brett Kavanaugh, and Chief Justice John Roberts. In addition, Justices Clarence Thomas and Stephen Breyer were part of the court that decided the case almost exactly 20 years ago, but on opposite sides. So there is plenty of corporate memory on the court to adjudicate on any case that might come before them.

[Nov 28, 2020] Gohmert Talks to Charlie Kirk about Voter Fraud Issues

Nov 28, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Mark McKibben
, 1 week ago

The recounts are irrelevant. The "certification" of the fraudulent votes is just theater. None of that matters once the overwhelming fraudulent nature of the entire operation is documented and revealed to all.

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[Nov 28, 2020] Corn Syrup vs Soy, by Eric Striker

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

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Every 2020 issue polarizes through this prism.

On the issue of voter fraud, the right has sullied real concerns with ballot legitimacy in highly mismanaged black cities with Bircherist bufoonery. The last of the MAGA faithful -- Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, Q-Anon, Mike Cernovich, Dinesh D'Souza, Nick Fuentes, Ali Alexander, One America News, and the Zionist opportunists at Newsmax -- have been trying to cancel more sensible right-wing populists like Tucker Carlson, Ryan Gidursky, Pedro Gonzalez and others for expressing skepticism about some of the Trump campaign's narratives on the election.

Like him or not, Tucker is a serious political commentator that has tried and failed to provide coherence and principles to Trumpism for the last four years. When Tucker asked Sidney Powell for evidence regarding her claim that Castro, Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro and the Chinese Communist Party stole millions of votes from Trump in an international Marxist coup, he was subjected to insults, boycotts and unhinged shrieking in response. "THANK YOU SEAN HANNITY FOR HOLDING THE LINE. THANK YOU TUCKER FOR THROWING US UNDER THE BUS," wrote Nick Fuentes.

Tucker was vindicated when Trump's team abruptly severed ties with Powell and shelved her circus act. But that hasn't stopped online Trumpistanis from speculating that Tucker's red bracelet is a sign that he is a secret kabbalah practitioner or that he's been a double agent for the satanic pedophile cartel led by Tom Hanks put in place just for this moment. For Jews concerned that Tucker has been promoting the potent combination of nationalism and economic populism to deplorables since 2016, it is a welcome amusement to see him being sacrificed on the alter of Orange Man Good and traded in for a harmless lapdog like Hannity.

30 of 31 voter fraud lawsuits filed by Team Trump have been tossed. The whole thing is starting to look like a Birther-style publicity stunt to help Trump monetize his following after January. The most recent defeat , a lawsuit demanding 7,000,000 votes be invalidated in Pennsylvania, did not provide any compelling evidence for fraud or malfeasance.

Four years ago, Bernie expressed skepticism about mass immigration while Trump's original campaign hinted at a public health care option and a war against Wall Street. These real world issues impact real world people, and it allowed for a cross-front alliance of ordinary citizens against the elite. The two candidates traded disenfranchised and largely white working class voters throughout the primary, then the general.

But now there are actors on both sides trying to drag things back to personalities, political tribalism and inanity. The COVID issue has drawn out the petty tyrants on the left but also the UN-world-government conspiracy theorists of the right, with actual state relief for desperate working people suffering from the lockdown being drowned out.

For Jewish gatekeepers of the phony right like Ezra Levant , "The Great Reset" is much more palatable and less dangerous than the real issue of the Great Replacement. Former Never Trumper Mark Levin has worked with Sean Hannity to scrub 2020 Trumpism of its anti-establishment and anti-globalist soul to try and transform it into another Tea Party style Reaganite collection point for false consciousness held together by fumes of Trump's personality cult.

There is a silver lining. As niches suffering from the two types of TDS -- Trump Derangement Syndrome and Trump Delusion Syndrome -- duke it out, the liberal kleptocracy is still having trouble restoring "normalcy."

The Biden Democrats are eager to betray and start purging the Bernie wing of their party on economic and foreign policy matters. The GOP, whose establishment has no organic support and never will, has decided to fake it until they make it and pretend like Trump was never born.

This forced reboot is bound to meet challenges in an era of high unemployment and social chaos. People are sick of voting for a "lesser of two evils."

There is lots of talk on the left and right about starting new parties to challenge the Wall Street uniparty. The Movement for a People's Party , an endeavor that has recruited big names like Jimmy Dore and Cornell West, is looking to establish itself and begin attacking the Democratic party from the left.

Meanwhile, right-populists who aren't hung up on Trump are beginning to talk of an "America First Party." The National Justice Party, a political construct that isn't afraid to appeal to white workers or transcend traditional ideas of left and right, is also starting to gain momentum.

In the battle of corn syrup vs soy, of stupid vs gay, we the people deserve better. The populi in populist can be described as being part of the radical center: left on economics and right on social issues. A white worker should not have to vote for the anti-white Democrats just to have a shot at affordable health care, nor should a rural family have to vote for the Paul Singer funded Zionist GOP in hopes of being treated with dignity. A grounded and united movement that explicitly rejects both parties and can obtain what we want must arise from the ashes of back-stabbed Trumpists and Bernie fans.

AnonStarter , says: November 24, 2020 at 5:43 am GMT • 4.6 days ago

The populi in populist can be described as being part of the radical center: left on economics and right on social issues. A white worker should not have to vote for the anti-white Democrats just to have a shot at affordable health care, nor should a rural family have to vote for the Paul Singer funded Zionist GOP in hopes of being treated with dignity. A grounded and united movement that explicitly rejects both parties and can obtain what we want must arise from the ashes of back-stabbed Trumpists and Bernie fans.

Sounds good, Mr. Striker.

May it come to fruition.

nsa , says: November 24, 2020 at 6:16 am GMT • 4.6 days ago

The median wage in the USA in 2019 was $34,000 / year. If Trumpstein had done even one tiny little, teensy weensy, itsy bitsy thing for the under $34k working poor .he would have easily retained enough votes to keep his job. Instead, his domestic policy goals centered around taking basic health insurance away from the working poor (even during a pandemic), while giving billions away to his wall street pals, his relatives, giant corporations, and of course his yid sponsors. Example: Fed Ex paid zero income tax in 2017, 2018, 2019. Let's see how long a modern society can function when the top 0.1% are worth more than the bottom 80%.

[Nov 28, 2020] Left-Leaning Group That Received $250 Million From Mark Zuckerberg Is Being Sued For Election Interference

Nov 28, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

The left-leaning group that received $250 million from the Facebook CEO, makes the incredible claim on their website that "Elections place too many burdens on voters."

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If the Center For Civic Design was serious about their statement, why aren't they hiring buses in areas that are solid Trump country, like in northern MI, where people may have to drive 20 or more miles to get to their local polling places? What about their "burden?" Or are some burdens more important than others?

The complaint filed with the WI Election Commission points out that the Zuckerberg funded group is only spending in the five critical cities in Wisconsin where Hillary Clinton picked up 82% of the vote in 2016: Green Bay, Kenosha, Madison, Milwaukee, and Racine -- all Democratic strongholds.

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So far, the group has spent an incredible $6.3 million in the critical swing state of Wisconsin with 10 electoral votes.

Here is a portion of their complaint:

The CTCL's sizable grants are providing funding to make polling equipment and resources conveniently available in particular Wisconsin cities that all have one glaring commonality – their overwhelming support of Hillary Clinton in 2016.

$2,572,839 of the CTCL gift is to be spent through the city clerks and election officials to influence voter turnout in democrat strongholds.

The cities have accepted the CTCL moneys without coordination with the state legislature to ensure statewide uniformity in inducing people to vote.

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The CTCL moneys, accepted by the cities, is targeted to urban electors to the exclusion of surburban electors and rural electors.

The City of Green Bay its city clerk and election officials are using the CTCL moneys to illegally induce its urban electors to vote in the November 3, 2020 election as follows:

"Green Bay: The City would like to employ bilingual LTE "voter navigators " to help residents properly upload valid photo ID, complete their ballots and comply with certification requirements, and offer witness signatures. These voter navigators can assist voters prior to the elections and then also be trained and utilized as election inspectors.

The City would like to add secure (security cameras $15,000) ballot drop-boxes.

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The City needs 45 additional staff to process absentee ballot requests before the election, to open and verify envelopes on Election Day, and insert them into the tabulators.

They would like to staff these early voting sites with election inspectors who are bilingual and would like to increase the salary rate for these bilingual election inspectors to assist with recruitment and retention, as well as in recognition of their important role at these sites.

The City would like to increase poll worker salaries by 50% . All poll workers will be trained through the Wisconsin Elections Commission website and the City's own training manual.

Would like to reach voters and potential voters through a multi-prong strategy utilizing "every door direct mail," targeted mail, geo-fencing, billboards, radio, television, and streaming-service PSAs, digital advertising, and automated calls and texts. The City would also like to ensure that these efforts can be done in English, Spanish, Hmong, and Somali, since roughly 11% of households in the Green Bay area speak a language other than English.

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The City would also like to directly mail to residents who are believed to be eligible but not registered voters, approximately 20,000 residents. It would require both considerable staff time to construct that list of residents and directly mail a professionally-designed piece (in multiple languages) to those voters.

To assist new voters, the City would also like resources to help residents obtain required documents (i.e. birth certificates) which are needed to get a valid state ID needed for voting. These grant funds would be distributed in partnership with key community organizations including churches, educational institutions, and organizations serving African immigrants, LatinX residents, and African Americans.

The CTCL recently provided a $10 million grant to the City of Philadelphia for the purpose of "ensuring a safe election process this November.

Much of the grant money is targeted to ease voting in one of the most democrat jurisdictions in Pennsylvania, a state President Trump won by only 0.72%, or 44,292 votes in 2016. 33.

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The group is also working to affect the outcome of the election in the critical swing state of Michigan where President Trump won by just over 10,000 votes in 2016. Over 50,000 absentee ballots were rejected in the Democrat stronghold of Wayne County, MI. in 2016.

Although it's not clear how much money Michigan received from the group, Axios reports – Michigan's Democrat Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D) praised the efforts of the left-leaning group, saying: "This grant will be of tremendous assistance as we work to get the word out to voters."

According to WZZM13 – CTCL has also given $6 million to Fulton County, which includes Atlanta.

The CTCL declined to disclose its other donors for the year or itemize all its contributions to local offices.

[Nov 28, 2020] A forensic analysis of those heavily pro-Biden vote dumps, in Georgia, Wisconsin and Michigan, also shows them to be statistically bizarre in several dimensions,

Nov 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

Peripatetic Itch , says: November 27, 2020 at 1:19 pm GMT • 5.9 hours ago

@Mikael_ al killer graphs of the analysis:

As we can see, all four of the vote updates in question (the two red points, the green points well above this line, and the farther-up yellow point), are well above even this line. Indeed, the least extreme of these points, represented by the lower red dot which is above the 99.5th percentile curve, is the 7th most co-extreme point out of all 8,954 vote updates, and represents the 99.92nd percentile.

Robert Dolan , says: November 27, 2020 at 6:30 pm GMT • 43 minutes ago

https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/definitive-case-proves-donald-trump-won-election/

[Nov 28, 2020] Attorney General Barr drops the hammer on universal mail-in voting

Nov 28, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Bluetouchwiz
, 2 months ago

If you can "peacefully protest" in person, then you can vote in person!


Sydney Ashton
, 3 days ago

The pandemic didn't stop THOUSANDS of ANTIFA and BLM from burning & looting our Country..


Rangetech
, 1 week ago

The voter lists are epically outdated. My wife got ballots in multiple states even though she hadn't lived there for nearly ten years.


Brenda Irby
, 2 days ago

I get so sick of these MSM acting like they don't know what's going on! Oh, they know and participate in the corruption!

Veevslav1 , 1 week ago

Barr was right, Blitzer is a shill and a poor example of a human being.


Mike K
, 1 week ago

Ask yourself this question: Why do Democrats want to regulate everything except elections?

Don Ruryk , 12 hours ago

1.5 million absentee ballets issued in Pennsylvania 2.5 million came back. That math doesnt add up.


RED SPARKS 73
, 1 week ago (edited)

Drops "The Hammer". Dominion /Mail in votes Is there anything the Deep State didn't try in this election, that Trump easily won

Juilo Thunderbird , 1 week ago

A fake pandemic that excuses a fraudulent election.


Luke
, 4 days ago (edited)

Didn't see CNN or any leftwing hypocrites caring about covid when so called president elect Biden had banana Harris has their "Fraud celebration" in the streets


Annie Carroll
, 1 day ago

Blitzer shut up when Barr said, "Let me talk".

L S , 2 days ago

Corporate MSM is the enemy of the tax payer.


Dennis Cauley
, 1 hour ago

Biden will have to step down. Conflict of interest with China. He's been compromised.

Harvdigity , 2 months ago

Ole Wolfe doesn't mind people going to Walmart, Home Depot and casinos but in person voting - Oh The Horror!

[Nov 28, 2020] Post-Election Analysis -- Can Trump Still Prevail

A very interesting analysis
Nov 26, 2020 | 21stcenturywire.com

If you are following the global media, you wouldn't know that their is an ongoing legal challenge to the official 2020 Election results. Still, some are asking the question: does President Trump still have a viable path to victory? Can Trump's legal team really throw out hundreds of thousands of votes in several swing states based on evidence of voter fraud? Even if such evidence is both available and compelling, will the courts want to hear these cases, or will it be more convenient for the Establishment to sweep this 2020 contest under the political rug?

Co-hosts Ciara Haley and George Szamuely from The Gaggle talks with American attorney and political analysis Robert Barnes to find out what are Trump's possible paths forward. Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBxHaTzCY3E

[Nov 28, 2020] In an exclusive interview, attorney Joe diGenova, a member of the President's legal team examining election irregularities, said the amount of election fraud and deception in Pennsylvania is "truly staggering."

Nov 28, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Nov 27, 2020 5:23 PM

This is a brief update from Joe DiGenova; being a member of Trump's legal team.

https://www.oann.com/attorney-digenova-says-fraud-deception-in-pa-election-is-truly-staggering/
Attorney DiGenova Says Fraud, Deception In Pa. Election Is 'Truly Staggering'
OAN Newsroom
Nov 26, 2020
In an exclusive interview, attorney Joe diGenova, a member of the President's legal team examining election irregularities, said the amount of election fraud and deception in Pennsylvania is "truly staggering." One America's John Hines has more.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/4FxI8fkdYus?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en-US&autohide=2&wmode=transparent 4 0 Reply

John , Nov 27, 2020 3:24 PM

The author has miscalculated the evil of Soros. He is a perfect example of a manipulator. Manipulators are among the most clever, accomplished liars. He has fooled you too.

[Nov 28, 2020] A letter to Trump attorney Ellis

Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

SMSpiff , 16 hours ago

Here's my letter to Trump attorney Ellis:

Dear Ms. Ellis,

Thank you for your work to ensure that the fraud in this election is revealed and corrected.

While not certain of the approach you and your team are intending to take or how courts look at evidence, may I make a suggestion?

The mathematical, statistical, and historical evidence definitively demonstrates the fraud that occurred in our elections.

Is it possible that presenting all-encompassing mathematical evidence first will conclusively show that fraud across the nation did in fact occur? The many methods in which the democrats committed fraud can then be pieced together after first showing that the crime was perpetrated.

Showing fraud on a national level may have greater efficacy than skipping straight to an examination of individual states for their own inconsistencies. After the nationwide crime is established, then the methods used in each state can be brought to light. The fact that Georgia stopped counting votes on election night due to a toilet leak might be questionable enough, but juxtaposed to Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin halting counting about the same time paints a clearer picture of impropriety.

I am sure you are aware of how probabilities work. They are cumulative by multiplication. Flipping a coin is 50% (0.50) chance of heads. Flipping a coin twice with heads as the result both times has only a 25% (0.25) chance (0.50 x 0.50 = 0.25). The more flips expecting heads each time continues to drop the chances of repeated occurrence. 6 attempts would only yield a 1.56% (0.0156) chance of heads for all six flips.

What the Joe Biden team "accomplished" on election night is even more mathematically farfetched than 6 flips of a coin being heads.

J.B. Shurk at The Federalist has compiled many of these improbabilities that, when considered together, show the impossibility of a Biden victory.

Here are just two of several points he presented in two articles. These two alone cast a long shadow over the legitimacy of a Biden victory:

"Biden is set to become the first president in 60 years to lose the states of Ohio and Florida on his way to election. For a century, these states have consistently predicted the national outcome, and they have been considered roughly representative of the American melting pot as a whole. Despite national polling giving Biden a lead in both states, he lost Ohio by eight points and Florida by more than three.

For Biden to lose these key bellwethers by notable margins and still win the national election is newsworthy. Not since the Mafia allegedly aided John F. Kennedy in winning Illinois over Richard Nixon in 1960 has an American president pulled off this neat trick.

Even more unbelievably, Biden is on his way to winning the White House after having lost almost every historic bellwether county across the country. The Wall Street Journal and The Epoch Times independently analyzed the results of 19 counties around the United States that have nearly perfect presidential voting records over the last 40 years. President Trump won every single bellwether county, except Clallam County in Washington.

Whereas the former VP picked up Clallam by about three points, President Trump's margin of victory in the other 18 counties averaged over 16 points. In a larger list of 58 bellwether counties that have correctly picked the president since 2000, Trump won 51 of them by an average of 15 points, while the other seven went to Biden by around four points. Bellwether counties overwhelmingly chose President Trump, but Biden found a path to victory anyway."

The links to the articles are below.

Good luck. Our nation is counting on you.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/13/5-historical-trends-that-show-its-utterly-shocking-if-trump-lost-in-2020/

[Nov 28, 2020] Looks like all Dominion voting machines were connected to Internet during 2020 elections

Notable quotes:
"... the new equipment enabled them to log in to the poll pads and fix problems remotely. ..."
Nov 20, 2020 | twitter.com
Looks like all Dominion voting m AllenCommodore

@tracybeanz

Smoking Gun: “Barron replied that using large amounts of technology lends itself to problems, but the new equipment enabled them to log in to the poll pads and fix problems remotely.” Remotely can only mean connected to Internet! A Major No No.

Are You Not Entertained?

@SheriHerman10,

Sidney Powell is so fierce she made Dominion shut down their offices, scrub their website, not show up for an important press conference in PA today, lawyer up and have employees all fly the coup. She has all the evidence she needs.

[Nov 28, 2020] Don't worry. Trump won't win the election, we fixed that

Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

tunEphsh , 14 hours ago

in 2010 Eric Coomer joined Dominion as Vice President of U.S. Engineering. According to his bio, Coomer graduated from the University of California, Berkeley with a Ph.D. in Nuclear Physics. Eric Coomer was later promoted to Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security although Coomer has since been removed from the Dominion page of directors. Dominion altered its website after

Colorado resident Joe Oltmann disclosed that as a reporter he infiltrated ANTIFA, a domestic terrorist organization where he recorded Eric Coomer representing: "Don't worry. Trump won't win the election, we fixed that." – as well as social media posts with violence threatened against President Trump.

[Nov 28, 2020] A couple of links

Nov 28, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Josh , Nov 26 2020 17:13 utc | 13

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2020/11/giuliani-points-out-major-problem-with-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania-only-1-8-mail-in-ballots-were-sent-out-but-2-5-million-were-counted-video/

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2020/11/voter-integrity-project-releases-evidence-of-thousands-of-vote-fraud-issues-combined-with-affidavits-from-rudy-and-gateway-pundits-statistical-analysis-m/

[Nov 28, 2020] How poll workers are selected in the US

Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Schacht Mat , 14 hours ago

You put your finger on the problem; it takes time to prove wrong doing, and time is the one thing that is missing. Any decent statistician will tell you that there was widespread fraud in key battleground states. Take a look at the above picture at the vote counting center in Detroit - do you honestly think the cardboard in the windows was going up to prevent covid.

There is law and there is justice. The law may prevail, but justice unsatisfied will tear this country apart at a time it can least afford it. There is nowhere to go. Outside urban areas MSN is ignored, the financial situation is terrible and getting worse, and edicts are routinely being ignored, including by law enforcement.

Cities need to be fed, and the rural areas provide the food. This is partly why the Senate and the Electoral College are structured the way that they are. Geography matters, especially if you are counting on it for food. When the US dollar loses world currency status (likely in the next 5 years, and almost certainly in the next 10 years) then the "wealth" of cities will amount to little, while the hard value of the rural areas will remain.

We are in deep trouble, and the only way to sort it out is to devote all available resources to determining the extent of the fraud and whether or not it was material to the election result. Without that the country will not heal; and the divide will grow.

Remember that law enacted is not the same as justice served.

ableman28 , 14 hours ago

In ALL polling places the two largest vote getting parties nominate an EQUAL number of poll workers for every eleection. That is how it works. Check for yourself.

One of the problems that Trumps suits have in getting any traction is that they are NEVER supported by poll workers, just observers. A poll worker who could show actual fraud would be useful to back up these suits. A poll watcher who wants to make a guess allegation that something happened because Trump lose is useless in court.

The supreme court, dominated by republican appointees, will give Trump NOTHING. In court, facts matter, In whatever ZH, NewsMax, OAN are just making **** up gets you by.

Schacht Mat , 1 hour ago

I have been a poll worker several times. Equal number of workers does not mean equal influence over the process, any more than an entry level worker has equal authority to the CEO.

The folks who pulled this off knew the system and worked it. As a former poll worker, I can tell you that the heavy lifting was done outside the eyes of the average poll workers. All you need is a momentary break in the chain of custody, and a bunch of ballots cast and be replaced with an equal number of ballots made. And tell me which poll worker will catch electronic voting machine tampering that is done by accessing software from another country.

This is not light weight stuff you are looking at here; these are well thought out tactics that have been proven and honed by our "intelligence" apparatus in color revolutions around the world. The average poll worker, of either side, would not have a clue as to what is going on. You are asking an amateur boxer to step into the ring with a professional heavyweight, and then wondering why he does not stand a chance.

kermudgen , 14 hours ago

"There is NO credible evidence of widespread election fraud. 30 or 31 Trump lawsuits have been thrown out."

That's not entirely true. If there were no evidence why would PA halt the certification of their vote? All the lower courts did was not hear the cases. This will get pushed up the the SCOTUS and then the demoncrat skullduggery will be brought into the light.

"30 or 31 Trump lawsuits have been thrown out." WTF? Do you believe the MSM?

[Nov 28, 2020] Summary of Today's Press Conference in Gettysburg, PA Investment Watch

Nov 28, 2020 | www.investmentwatchblog.com

[Nov 28, 2020] US Election- A Color Revolution 'Comes Home to Roost' OffGuardian

Nov 28, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Nov 27, 2020 2:55 AM

THIS IS A MUST WATCH (At least in part). Full Pennsylvania Hearing held just yesterday – legislators are instructed on how to stop certifications of false election results based on fraud at the end, Prior to that are hours of evidence presented in first hand testimony by sworn witnesses. If you are STILL listening to ANY source that mocks this effort, you must shake that bad habit and that source, clearly. Anyone still mind controlled enough to believe or pass along that there is no evidence of fraud, or even scant evidence or nothing to overturn the US 2020 election result is basically a member of a toxic cult group.

Here is an excellent summary of the entire hearing, if you dont have time to watch it or want to share the findings easily. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/summary-of-todays-press-conference-in-gettysburg-pa/

When the truth about the election is given a public airing, it is absolutely undenable. Skip and listen to the end especially. There is more than raw data involved here, it is pride, it is ideals, it is essentially the spirit of justice and freedom and you can hear it in the voices of those who participate in the fight for truth, it is undeniable. Dont forget to visit me at worldchangebrief.webnode.com for more high quality alt news helping fight the information blockade and censorship.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/DSDZkXxFVEU?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en-US&autohide=2&wmode=transparent 5 0 Reply

Voxi Pop , Nov 26, 2020 10:44 PM

https://worldchangebrief.webnode.com
PA Stands Tall: Finally Airs Voter Fraud

FAR FROM OVER: 4 GREAT VIDEOS EXPLAIN – Turley On Current Court & Legislature Moves GA, MI, PA, AZ, WI

What Powell's Biblical Epic Filing Today Means

Non Trump Supporter On Clear Vote Machine Hacks/ Mike Adams-Situation Update China Furious At US Admiral Taiwan Visit

Dominion Disappears

GOP Certifier Describes Threats.

Trump Call

MSM Hysteria Over Troop Exits

A Rude Awakening For Europe
Top Pathologist: Covid "Greatest Hoax"Pfizer Vaccine Nanobots Require -70C Temp/

[Nov 28, 2020] Election Fraud Memes- Michigan's Mysterious 3am Biden Votes

Why mail-in ballots were counted last. That alone open avenues for the fraud.
Nov 28, 2020 | caucus99percent.com
Election Fraud Memes: Michigan's Mysterious 3am Biden Votes

edg on Wed, 11/25/2020 - 5:33pm

In the pantheon of 2020 election fraud claims, this one is very easy to debunk. Nevertheless, a conservative friend of mine posted it on Facebook just this morning.

The "theory" is that gremlins (Note: Never feed your mogwai after midnight local time) or even worse, Democrats, snuck into vote counting centers in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at 3am the night of the election and added hundreds of thousands of fraudulent Biden votes, thus stealing President Trump's huge vote lead and his presidency.

The image below shows the startling proof (more discussion after).

It's easy to understand why in the minds of Trump and his supporters, President Trump won Michigan and Pennsylvania by huge margins: 15.2% in Pennsylvania and 9.6% in Michigan. This was a resounding victory for the President.

But then that victory was stolen. Suddenly, late on election night, mysterious and unexplainable votes for Biden were crammed into Dominion voting machines at 3am Eastern Time in Michigan and Pennsylvania and then the same thing happened again at 3am Central Time in Wisconsin.

Gremlins, aka Democrats, claim those votes aren't mysterious at all. They (and we know who they are) say it's because in-person votes were counted first, giving Trump a temporary lead, then mail-in votes were counted, giving Biden the final lead. Not bloody likely!!

But here's a test of Trump's claim: Do the political demographics of those swing states match the 3am results or do they match the final results? In other words, are there realistic grounds for claiming widespread fraud? The answer is no.

Here's a chart showing the percentage of adult political party identification and Trump's winning/losing margins as of 3am election night and as of yesterday. The first 5 rows are the swing states, the next 3 are solid Red states, and the bottom 3 are solid Blue states.

For control groups, I chose solid Red and Blue states with win margins of about 15%, comparable to Trump's Pennsylvania lead at 3am on election night.

Takeaways from the chart:

Conclusion

As the control groups show, a 15% or greater lead in party affiliation produces a 15% or more lead for the party's candidate. This holds true for other states I checked as well.

States with less than 15% party disparity show mixed results, although this may be due to the so-called Independents in those states aligning with one of the major parties. Iowa, for example, is ostensibly 41% R, 40% D, and 19% I, but favored Trump by 8.3%. Virginia, on the other hand, affiliates 43% R, 39% D, and 18% I, but favored Biden by 10.1%.

True swing states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Wisconsin showed their swinginess by favoring Biden 2-1 over Trump.

Missouri, which affiliation-wise could be a swing state, favored Trump by 15.3%.

Biden's vote count was entirely consistent with political affiliations in Michigan and Pennsylvania, which lean Democratic, and in swing states Georgia and Wisconsin. Biden lost in North Carolina even though it leans slightly Democratic.

All-in-all, statistical analysis of the 2020 Presidential election clearly shows there was no widespread fraud as claimed by President Trump. When combined with the well-known and well-documented timing of absentee/mail-in vote counts AFTER in-person counts and with the Trump-generated bias of mail voters preferring Biden, there is absolutely no truth to the 3am claim by Trump and his supporters .

[Nov 28, 2020] Federal appeals court slams Trump campaign efforts to turn tide in Pennsylvania ruling, saying 'claims have no

Nov 28, 2020 | www.msn.com

"The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter," How it can be: dead people voting is not fradulent? Manipulations with mail-in ballots are not fraudulent? Blocking observers is not fraudulent? If blocking observers is not fraudulent why to have elections at all. Let DNC or Lochid Martin board appoint president and be done with it.

"Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here," wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, for the panel.

"The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter," wrote Bibas. "It never alleges that any defendant treated the Trump campaign or its votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or its votes. Calling something discrimination does not make it so. The Second Amended Complaint still suffers from these core defects, so granting leave to amend would have been futile."

... ... ...

Jenna Ellis, an attorney for Trump's campaign, said on Twitter following the ruling that "the activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud," and pledged to take the case to the Supreme Court.

[Nov 28, 2020] Pennsylvania Appeals Court Tosses Trump Lawsuit, Setting Stage For Supreme Court Showdown

It is an interesting legal opinion: denying importance of observers is tantamount to legitimizing election fraud. We should view observers much like a jury in cimnal trial and without their consent the result can't be viewed legitimate.
Nov 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"Voters, not lawyers, choose the president," reads the opinion from the appeals court, adding "Ballots, not briefs, decide elections. The ballots here are governed by Pennsylvania election law. No federal law requires poll watchers or specifies where they must live or how close they may stand when votes are counted. Nor does federal law govern whether to count ballots with minor state-law defects or let voters cure those defects ."

The Trump campaign sought to have a federal court invalidate Pennsylvania's certification, and then get the state's General Assembly to select Trump electors to the Electoral College - which campaign attorney Marc Scaringi wrrote to the US Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit (via CNBC ).

"The Pennsylvania General Assembly has the power to appoint the Commonwealth's presidential electors," wrote Scaringi, adding "A decision by the District Court that President Trump won the legal votes may have significant impact on the General Assembly."

The campaign has alleged widespread voting fraud.


J S Bach , 2 hours ago

"Voters, not lawyers, choose the president," reads the opinion from the appeals court, adding "Ballots, not briefs, decide elections."

Indeed. LEGITIMATE VOTERS choose the president. LEGAL ballots decide elections.

If this fails, there will NEVER be an honest election again in this corpse of a Republic. Only a full blown revolution will reclaim the original intent of our Constitution. Traitor heads must roll on a biblical scale.

cankles' server , 1 hour ago

Rumor has it that Biden's campaign was warned to concede so other similar affidavits won't be filed that exposes national security secrets.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18693929/1/15/king-v-whitmer/

Unknown User , 1 hour ago

The Swamp is strong in that place...

Boing_Snap , 1 hour ago

If they don't stop this election fraud and shutdowns the Law of the Jungle will be coming real soon, worldwide.

Lawyers are politicians as well, we're not having any of it, cleaning house will be the name of the game.

They've pushed us too far.

RAT005 , 21 minutes ago

Imagine such a simple obvious rule that all [mail-in] ballots must be submitted before the deadline with a verifiable signature limited only to registered voters. And so many lawyers, judges and other idiots get to discuss and rule on it for weeks while stoking protesters' fury that some element of legitimate voting is being suppressed.

Freeman of the City , 1 hour ago

SIGNATURE VERIFICATION: FLASHBACK: Obama Says Mail-in Ballots Can Only Be Trusted if the Signatures are Verified:
[ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/flashback-obama-says-mail-ballots-can-trusted-signatures-verified-video/ ]

dging , 2 hours ago

The idiocy of the ruling is even worse than you say. You're exactly right, legitimate votes matter. But to the court apparently, legitimate and illegitimate votes count equally.

Also in the opinion "No federal law requires poll watchers or specifies where they must live or how close they may stand when votes are counted. Nor does federal law govern whether to count ballots with minor state-law defects or let voters cure those defects ." votes count equally."

Okay, but that's not the point of the lawsuit. Did the judge even read the lawsuit? Or listen to the arguments. Federal law says that only the state legislature can set the rules for the election. But that's not what happened. Parties outside the state legislature set the rules. That's why it's a federal case. Are the judges really that stupid that they can't understand simple logic? Apparently.

Buckaroo Banzai , 2 hours ago

It's funny how suddenly the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th Amendment doesn't seem to apply to Trump voters. Asking someone to prove he can read before he can vote is a violation of the Equal Protection Clause, but letting a bunch of inner-city "vote counters" work in tandem with crooked vote-counting machine makers to steal an election by manufacturing a bunch of phony votes in the dark of night (both literally and figuratively), which then causes the people who took the trouble to vote legally to have the value of their votes diluted, is not a violation of the Equal Protection Clause? That's just one example. The Federal Courts have used this clause to bulldoze state laws hundreds of times in the last century, but now suddenly they can't seem to locate the 14th Amendment in their copies of the Constitution?

snatchpounder , 1 hour ago

"Voters, not lawyers, choose the president," reads the opinion from the appeals court,

Wrong, the people writing the code for the software for the voting machines choose the president. Where paper ballots are used the corrupt vote counters choose the president.

Walter Melon , 1 hour ago

Voter fraud has always been "piecemeal" in that, traditionally, it's been done at the precinct level, and in varying ways (as we're seeing this year). Small ball, but for the win.

Fellow travelers in the voting room, after the polls close, take the "leftover" ballots, punch them, and run them through the machine before reporting. Fellow travelers troll the old folks' homes and get "absentee" ballots "filled out". Any warm body shows up and claims to be a voter, and gets a ballot. Warm bodies being shuffled around the city in buses. Etc.

And without computers it would take weeks and months to figure out that while x people checked out ballots, y ballots were cast in a precinct. That's why, traditionally, it's been difficult to win election challenges - because the fraud is small and piecemeal.

Well it seems that with these newfangled computers, and a camera in every pocket, the old ways of cheating are easier to discover (even though still being used).

I've had a hard time accepting that "statistics" can prove election fraud, and so will a lot of older people including judges.

But I'm coming around.

biot patalay , 24 minutes ago

You can only physically scan a maximum 3000 ballots through a machine in an hour, NOT 90,000! How's that statistic?

Xando , 1 hour ago

Here's the thing: millions, yes millions, of those 80 million Biden voters simply do not exist.

There is no way Crazy Uncle Joe received the most votes for president in US history. In fact, he may not even have won the Democrat Primaries (looks like Bernie got screwed again!). He's a quasi-senile old man who barely campaigned and when he did he struggled. He's a very strange man who lacks broad charisma. Plus his campaign was 100% negative. Do you seriously believe he beat the Hopium of the The One in 2008? Or Trump's MAGA? Both of which turned out thousands at rallies even during the times of COVID?

If you believe those 80 million Biden voters actually exist, you need to re-examine a lot of things.

For to accept that Joe Biden won this election you also have to accept a bewildering pile of improbabilities and also put aside everything you thought you knew about human nature.

[Nov 28, 2020] Roger Stone on His Conviction, Trump, Election Fraud, and Faith

Nov 28, 2020 | stonecoldtruth.com

MA: On Nov. 14, the Palm Beach Post reported that you spoke at a "Stop the Steal" rally attended by 500 Trump supporters in Delray Beach, Fla. [an upscale community 20 miles south of Palm Beach]. Here are some quotes from the Post's report:

"Stone suggested the CIA changed vote tallies to benefit Democrat Joe Biden."

"He [Stone] then hit on how the CIA used a supercomputer called the 'Hammer' and a program dubbed 'Scorecard' to alter the vote."

Can you elaborate?

RS: As I wrote in stonecoldtruth.com , I believe there is both overwhelming and compelling evidence of extensive election fraud of the old-fashioned variety to include abuses in the mail-in ballot system; ballot harvesting; dead people voting; people voting multiple times; and the wholesale manufacture of ballots after the polls had closed since Democrats knew the margins by which Trump won.

I believe that there will also be substantial hard evidence of cyber manipulation of the 2020 vote. I raised the question of the "Hammer" and "Scorecard" programs, which [CIA] whistleblower Dennis Montgomery – who designed the [latter] program – specifically said was created for the purpose of voter manipulation in foreign countries. In fact, confidential audio recordings released by U.S. District Judge G. Murray Snow in November 2015, revealed that this computer program was used by the Obama campaign on Florida state election computers to steal the 2012 presidential election for Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

I believe there is also substantial evidence of cyber manipulation of the 2020 vote by Dominion Voting Services, among others. The company has been subjected to substantive allegations in the past. It's funny to see Democrats who told us for four years that our elections were being interfered with through the cyber efforts of the "Russians" now insisting that such a thing is impossible.

MA: Why have Trump's lawyers been unable to confirm a single example of voter fraud?

RS: I reject the premise of your question. The president's lawyers have produced multiple examples of voter fraud in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and elsewhere. Don't give into the mass hypnosis of the fake news media. If you want to see proof of this evidence you can go here .

[Nov 27, 2020] Projection of the US intelligance againces interference in election on Russians

Nov 02, 2020 | thegrayzone.com
How DHS and FBI officials spun a dubious Russian election threat days before voting by GARETH PORTER ·
A Department of Homeland Security election alert spawning new Russia fears was so incoherent and inconsistent with previous findings, it suggested a state of political panic inside the agency.

Just days before the 2020 election the bureaucratic forces behind the original claim of Russian hacking of state election-related websites in 2016 launched a new drive to spawn fears of Moscow-made political chaos in the wake of the voting.

The new narrative was not consistent with information previously published by the the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), however. It was so incoherent, in fact, that it suggested a state of panic on the part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials worried about a possible transition to a Joe Biden administration.

On October 20, Christopher Krebs, the head of CISA, issued a video statement expressing confidence that "it would be incredibly difficult for them to change the outcome of an election at the national level." Then he abruptly changed his tone, adding, "But that doesn't mean various actors won't try to introduce chaos in our elections and make sensational claims that overstate their capabilities. In fact, the days and weeks just before and after Election Day is the perfect time for our adversaries to launch efforts intended to undermine your confidence in the integrity of the electoral process."

Krebs' warning of a possible Russian announcement that hackers had succeeded in disrupting the result of the U.S. election was so removed from reality that it suggested internal panic DHS over the failure of Russian hackers to do anything that could be cited as interfering in the election.

Two days after Krebs' dubious warning, the FBI and the DHS's new Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued an "alert" reporting that "a Russian state-sponsored APT [Advanced Persistent Threat] actor" known as "Berserk Bear" had "conducted a campaign against a wide variety of U.S. targets."

Since "at least September," according to the DHS alert, the DHS warning claimed that it had targeted "dozens" of "U.S. state, local, territorial and tribal government networks." It even claimed that the supposed Russian campaign had compromised the network infrastructure of several official organizations and "exfiltrated data from at least two victims servers." At the same time, it acknowledged there was "no indication" that any government operations had been "intentionally disrupted."

The report went on to suggest, "[T]here may be some risk to elections information housed on SLTT [state, local territorial and tribal] government networks." And then it abruptly shifted tone and level of analysis to offer the speculation that the Russian government "may be seeking access to obtain future disruption options, to influence U.S. policies or actions", or to "delegitimize" the "government entities".

On October 28, Krebs elaborated on the latter theme in an interview with the PBS NewsHour . Referring inaccurately to government warnings about "Russian interference, some of which targeted voter registration," which the FBI-CISA alert had never mentioned, PBS interviewer William Brangham asked, "Do you worry at all that there might be infiltration that we are not aware of?"

Instead of correcting Brangham's inaccurate suggestion, Krebs responded that "infiltration" into voter registration files was "certainly possible," but that "[W]e have improved the ability to detect compromises or anomalous activity."

Krebs then homed in on a scenario he obviously wanted the public to focus on: "[Y]ou might see various actors, foreign powers, claim that they were able to accomplish something, [that] they were able to hack a database or hack the vote count. And it's simply not true."

Although the October 22 alert did not assert any deliberate Russian government hack of election-related sites, Krebs sought to keep speculation about both Russian capabilities and intent alive.

The buried alert that undermined the frightening official assessment

Eleven days before Krebs debuted his speculation about Russia claiming to have hacked U.S. elections, the FBI and CISA issued a separate alert that seriously undercut his questionable claims.

The earlier document was clearly referring to the very same efforts by hackers to break into various websites addressed in the October 22 alert. It not only referred to the same state and local government networks and to the wider range of targets affected but also mentioned precisely the same technical vulnerabilities that were targeted in the series of hacks.

The alert further stated that, "[I]t does not appear these targets are being selected because of their proximity to elections information ." In other words, the two US agencies conceded they had no basis for attributing the hacks in question to any election interference plot.

The most striking difference between the two alerts, however, was that the October 9 alert did not refer to any "Russian state-sponsored APT actor" as the October 22 one did. Instead, it simply pointed to "APT actors" in the plural, indicating that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence indicating a single actor was at work, let alone one that was "Russian-state sponsored."

Contrary to the impression that U.S. officials may have conveyed in referencing an "Advance Persistent Threat," or APT, it is now widely understood by cybersecurity specialists that this term no longer refers to a state-sponsored actor. That is because the sophisticated tools and techniques once associated with state-sponsored hacking have now become available to a much wider range of cyber actors. Indeed, the codes for such high-end tools have been identified in the Shadow Brokers and Vault 7 leaks, and the tools have been marketed widely at affordable prices on the dark web.

The October 9 alert firmly established the dearth of evidence on the part of CISA and FBI about a Russian state-sponsored hacking team planning elections-related operations in the U.S. The sudden pivot days later to an unqualified claim that a single state-sponsored APT had been responsible for the same very large range of operations should have been accompanied by claims of substantial new intelligence, or at least a reference to the evidence underlying the dramatic new reversal. But no such proof ever arrived.

Scott McConnell, the spokesman for CISA, promised the Grazyzone on October 29 that he would provide someone to answer questions about the October 22 alert by the close of business Friday. In the end, however, no one from CISA responded, and there was no answer on McConnell's line.

The peculiar reversal by the DHS and CISA on the hacking claims raise questions about the institutional considerations taken by these agencies. Did indications that President Donald Trump's campaign was faltering inform their decision to issue a more stridently anti-Russian assessment in hopes of surviving a political transition?

The US officials who drew up the initial pre-election alert seemed keenly aware that despite that drumbeat of over the past two years, no state-sponsored Russian hacking of election institutions was underway. But as the Trump campaign sputtered, they had their own careers to consider. Days later, DHS and CISA declared the wily Russians guilty of yet another malign operations -- one that would not require them to have slightest evidence to support, and that would be impossible for them to explain.

[Nov 27, 2020] Obama and Acorn using Scorecard on page 8

Nov 27, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Ron_Mexico , 12 hours ago

Just noticed that the lead story on 60 Minutes Sunday is furthering the "there was/is no election security problem. So, I'd say somebody is over the target somewhere. Resist . . .

RC2 , 12 hours ago

The Kraken is alive and hungry

Exhibit 105 from King vs Whitmer

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf

The Real Kraken

Iran and China in on the steal

Obama and Acorn using Scorecard on page 8

Xena fobe , 12 hours ago

They'll parade a few "experts" who will lie and tell us how safe and secure electronic voting is.

[Nov 26, 2020] Dominion-izing the Vote by Chanel Rion

Pretty educational video that touches several aspect of Dominion. 2-6 people training in using Dominion are essentially administrators who have tremendous level of control over the system. Essentially election are decided by those 2-6 administrators. Those people need to be investigated in countries that experience anomalies.
Also tough anti-Trump sentiments within top executive on Dominions, especially Eric Coomer . In Coomer case he was in the position to materialize his threats. This looks like another Peter Strzok "he is not going to win" insurance.
Nov 22, 2020 | www.youtube.com

WATCH: Chanel Rion on "Dominion-izing the Vote" - YouTube


Errick Mackey , 1 day ago

Who is Eric Coomer?😳 For the answer..... Google "Dominion Eric Coomer " The FBI should arrest this guy for treason and voter's fraud.😡


MarvLS1
, 1 day ago

6,000 ballots "accidentally" counted for Biden? "Accidentally?" LOL

Jenny Smith , 1 day ago

Georgia said they had "no widespread fraud." Should not be ANY fraud. One "narrow" amount of fraud could produce overwhelming irregularity.


theshepherdsinn
, 1 day ago

This election should be completely redone demanding in person voting and showing ID. We must not let our presidents win be stolem!!!!!!

Miggity_ , 9 hours ago

"We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. -Joe Biden 🙃


patrick hague
, 2 days ago

I am a Canadian, amazing job Chanel . Dominion is in Toronto Canada sharing office space with George S funded foundation , or at lest they were a week ago.. glad to see your on it .


Gregorio Juliano
, 1 day ago

Chenal Rion, is an amazing interviewer She rocks !!


Donny Hanson
, 4 hours ago

So this is the video that actually led to OAN's Youtube suspension.


Dominic Fong
, 2 days ago

As a Canadian, I am totally ashamed that our country is involved in such heinous crime.


Jules Rose
, 1 day ago

The Voter Fraud, and the Facts are all there making it a Crime scene. All Fake Ballots need to have a Forensic test of the PAPER used, to determine it's Source of where the Fake Ballots came from. It's obvious they're not legitimate.


Inverted Earth
, 4 days ago

Remember: The root word of Dominion is DOMINATION


Susan Ferraro
, 7 hours ago

The Democrats have been too damned sure of themselves !


Frank Fernandes
, 1 day ago

Although all we know is true: dominion fraud etc. Democrats have covered everything, will not be caught, and so results will not change. The world will have to live with the nonsense of Biden & his corrupt Democrats. I'm Indian, feel sad to see America suffer this.


Travishamochory
, 3 days ago (edited)

Hmm, computer and keys stolen a month before the election ? Isn't that about the same time Hillary told Biden not to concede ???

Tim Gomolka , 3 days ago

The issue with bleed-through causing ballots to be not read properly, is that why in Arizona Trump supporters were given Sharpies and Biden's weren't?

Denise MR , 3 days ago

Yes

wasantha Lakmal , 3 days ago

Let's do this https://youtu.be/u50LObfO0KM amen...


Michael Krutz
, 3 days ago

Here in my town in Michigan we were too.

Ron Rathbone , 3 days ago

@Michael Krutz Dam man. This thing is so disgusting. They really did commit massive amounts of fraud. In so many places and so many ways.


Michael Krutz
, 3 days ago

@Ron Rathbone You are absolutely right. The machine wouldn't take mine and three people in front of me. We had to leave them in a box in the back of the ballot machine.

kdrazalot G-USA , 1 day ago

Saw Biden trying to MUSCLE IN, WITH HIS "PICKED" Cabinet or whatever! It looked like a MILITARY TAKE OVER! Scary!! This is really freaky!!


george christopoulos
, 3 days ago

When can OAN do a story on why the FBI is not investigating the election fraud along with the long time Biden family corruption


Joe Valachi
, 3 days ago

This makes watergate look like a lemonade stand overcharge by comparison.


kwonbbl
, 11 hours ago (edited)

New DemoNKracy: People of the government, by the government, and for the government - Jot Kennedie - Don't think it will do any for the people, but the people should obey the new god - Government of George Orwell prophecy.


Richard L.
, 13 hours ago

If anyone believes that any software related voting machine cannot be altered I have a bridge for sale. We need to go back to paper ballots and USA citizenship I'd cards to get the ballot. Wake up people, the dems may have stole this one but don't forget Republicans can cheat also.


Ted Ross
, 3 hours ago

Eric coumer is best friends with Justin Castro-Trudeau, along with the ceo of dominion software company.


JEFFERY T. CARR Ph.D. on't
, 1 day ago

So who in the Hell gave the ok to use this machine? Any Governor that allowed this in their state should be removed from office as well as the Secretary of State.


Patricia Taylor
, 3 days ago

It wasn't an accident. That's how they programmed the software.


Inverted Reality
, 8 hours ago

What can be done in error can be done maliciously. The system is designed to allow it.


yankees29
, 1 day ago

Georgia was a huge fix. Big news coming. The Republican leadership took kickbacks to install Dominion in Georgia.


Spikey Badger
, 2 hours ago

There should an audit in all swing states, there needs to be sound respect, for the integrity of our elections. The election does have irregularities and fraud, over 13k sworn affidavits saying there was. This is 1 election, but if people don't have trust in the election, we will be divided and the stability of our nation is in doubt.

ThatHandsomeDevil08 , 3 days ago

Computers don't make mistakes, they do exactly what they are programmed to do.

MasterT91 , 2 days ago

I can follow him on the IT security. I and a couple of my friends with a couple flash drives and using googledocs could easily compromise the Dominion machines and rig the election results the way we want. Pretty damning report


Live Abundantly
, 3 days ago

Damn fantastic reporting! We can't let dominion and their masters get away with this corruption.

drfreedom11 , 17 hours ago

I fear we do not fully understand the future consequences of just accepting this stolen election. We will never have a say in who represents us if we allow this. The will of the people will mean nothing going forward. We are entering a technological enslavement from which there will be no way out. Speak now while other are around to speak up with you.


Tim
, 1 day ago

Tim, look at the Patrick Bryne story. He is the founder of Overstock.com . He claims, with Sydney Powell, that he has the evidence, See the interview with the BLACK CONSERVATIVE PATRIOT.


Thomas P
, 1 day ago

That's kind of funny that ANTIFA would be involved in this considering when you went to www ANTIFA com it took you directly to Biden's website! What a f'n crook!

My Ukulele Daily , 1 day ago

A guy who EVERYONE hates, can hardly talk, lives in his basement and can't draw flies on a campaign stop wins the presidency with the most votes ever. DIDN'T HAPPEN.


Eric Claey
, 15 hours ago

The Dominion machines and software should be enough to officially make the 2020 election illegitimate. Why is the Democratic Party the only party that is endorsing these voting machines?

howmonster , 2 days ago (edited)

I want to believe this theory, but the Georgia recount were fairly consistent with the initial count. Had absolutely no reason to think that Dominion switched the votes. Georgia is ALL Dominion!

j , 4 days ago (edited)

The Dominion + voting system was created to do what it was supposed to do==RIG AN ELECTION !!


Ted Ross
, 4 hours ago

Dominion software company shares a office with George soros and the ceo is best friends with Justin Castro-Trudeau. Trudeau also gave one hundred and twenty four million taxpayers dollars to the Clinton foundation to rigg the American election. The dominion of canada, dominion software company anyone see and realize that this company is keeping the plandemic reset going.

True Witness , 3 days ago (edited)

This is indeed the most inclusive voter fraud organised crime ever in the history of elections

[Nov 26, 2020] THE [DS] PLANNED OUT AN ELECTION COUP AND THEY GOT CAUGHT:PATRICK COLBECK

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Priss Factor , says: Website November 19, 2020 at 8:43 am GMT • 7.6 days ago

THE [DS] PLANNED OUT AN ELECTION COUP AND THEY GOT CAUGHT:PATRICK COLBECK


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/kfiBy43P8abX/

[Nov 26, 2020] Everyone should look at this forensic analysis of the big ballot dumps in Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia in the wee hours of Nov. 4.

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Peripatetic Itch , says: November 26, 2020 at 2:18 pm GMT • 4.8 hours ago

@rebel yell p> Trump may not be able to sufficiently prove fraud at the ballot box

Everyone should look at this forensic analysis of the big ballot dumps in Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia in the wee hours of Nov. 4. The chances of getting these one-sided dumps in legitimate elections are less than 0.001, on several metrics. All three state results could and should be overturned on this one finding.

Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020
https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

[Nov 26, 2020] Trump's Last Hurrah- by The Saker

Nov 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

There seems to be a quasi consensus that Trump will not prevail and that Biden and Harris will get into the White House no matter what. To my surprise, even the Russian media seems to be considering that the Trump presidency is over.

Yet, I am not so sure at all.

Why?

Because at this point in time, I think that it would fair to conclude that anybody actually willing to look at what has been revealed by this election will have to agree that this election was stolen, rigged, falsified – chose your expression – and that going to the courts to challenge this obscene miscarriage of the democratic process is a fundamental civil right and something which any democrat (small "d") should support.

And yet, because we live in a media-created pseudo-reality in which absolutely crucial things like the rule of law seem to have become secondary to ideological imperatives, no matter how extreme, there are those who simply refuse to see the obvious. Yes, the 9/11 false flag trained the western societies well and many now simply lack the lucidity and courage to face reality.

Courts, however, are bound by the rule of law, at least in theory, and don't have the luxury to simply pretend like crucial evidence presented to them simply does not exist.

True, the lower, state, courts are unlikely to resist the pressure put upon them to come up with the "right" conclusions, but never say never – all it takes is one single principled judge and Trump or, more accurately, the Giuliani team, might get the break they need. Still, it is pretty obvious that Giuliani's real hopes are with the Supreme Court. This makes sense, local judges are much easy to influence and sway than Supreme Court Justices who are unassailable and who realize that they will make history, the only question being is: how till they go down in history books, as a "profile in courage" or as impotent cowards who betrayed their oath?

I will say that I am, to put it mildly, not impressed by Trump's demeanor during these crucial days: he completely ceded the narrative to his opponents (a couple of incoherent and poorly phrased "tweets" do not qualify). True, Trump never displayed the qualities of a real leader, so this is hardly surprising.

Giuliani, however, is a tough SOB and he seems to be determined to take this fight right up to the Supreme Court. This is why I believe that it is very dangerous to make any assumptions about what the Justices might or might not do. Is it possible that even the Supreme Court justices would betray their oath and cave in to the Dem's pressure? Yes, I suppose so. Concepts such as truth, honor, integrity, courage and heroism are very much out of fashion in the modern world, especially in the US. This is why the traditionally hallowed term "hero" is applied left and right to every bureaucrat or civil servant simply doing his/her job: real heroes are long gone.

Then consider this: if the SC sides with Trump and overturns the hundred of thousands of illegal votes, the US will be immediately plunged into an orgy of chaos and violence, all of it encouraged and coordinated by the legacy corporate ziomedia à la CNN. The thugs of Antifa/BLM will immediately engage in Kristallnacht-like rampages in "protest" against the "racist system". Their main target? White, Christian, males, of course!

Some justices might even feel torn between standing up for what is both legal and moral and the practical considerations of the consequences of an adjudication in Trump's favor. Their oath ought to be their guiding principles, but considering how often the SC voted along party/ideological lines in the past, I am not very confident that the Justices will strictly do the only legally and morally right thing: uphold the law and vote their conscience.

Finally, whatever we may think of the election itself, it is obvious that the US elites have created the appearance of a fait accompli , hence the kind of nonsense like, say, Biden and his "Office of the President Elect". It is therefore reasonable to assume that even if the Supreme Court fully sides with the Trump campaign, the US elites will never accept this. They will try to find a way to impeach, legally or otherwise, those Justices who voted "wrong".

I think that there is also another consideration which we have to remain aware of: Trump's entire presidency is been one long and never ending prostitution of the United States to the desires and whims of Netanyahu and his gang of thugs. True, as Israel Shamir pointed out , the Israelis failed to deliver anything in return to Trump. And yet, as Philip Giraldi recently explained , Trump is still very much Israel's prostitute, which is why there are an increasing number of Israeli experts (see here and here ) who believe that Trump might strike at Iran as a "farewell" present to the Israelis.

Is that really possible? Could Trump really do something so crazy?

You betcha he could!

One one hand, I have always maintained that Trump is the Zionists' " disposable president ", meaning a one term president who will do everything the Likudniks want of him and who will then be jettisoned and replaced by a truly "kosher president" like Biden/Harris. On the other hand, however, there is the precedent of the US meekly taking the Iranian missile attacks in retaliation for the murder of General Soleimani which seems to indicate that the Pentagon just does not have the stomach for a full-scale war against Iran.

So which will it be?

Nobody knows. The only thing we can be sure of is that we are certainly entering very dangerous times.

Those who hope that a Biden/Harris presidency might be better are deeply deluded.

Why?

Because, as many have already pointed this out, even if Trump is ejected from the White House, "Trumpism", as an ideology, is here to stay. Even if you believe that Biden/Harris beat Trump in a fair election, surely must you still realize that there are tens of millions of Americans who feel that the election was stolen and that Biden/Harris are usurpers.

There seems to be a quasi consensus that Trump will not prevail and that Biden and Harris will get into the White House no matter what. To my surprise, even the Russian media seems to be considering that the Trump presidency is over.

Yet, I am not so sure at all.

Why?

Because at this point in time, I think that it would fair to conclude that anybody actually willing to look at what has been revealed by this election will have to agree that this election was stolen, rigged, falsified – chose your expression – and that going to the courts to challenge this obscene miscarriage of the democratic process is a fundamental civil right and something which any democrat (small "d") should support.

And yet, because we live in a media-created pseudo-reality in which absolutely crucial things like the rule of law seem to have become secondary to ideological imperatives, no matter how extreme, there are those who simply refuse to see the obvious. Yes, the 9/11 false flag trained the western societies well and many now simply lack the lucidity and courage to face reality.

Courts, however, are bound by the rule of law, at least in theory, and don't have the luxury to simply pretend like crucial evidence presented to them simply does not exist.

True, the lower, state, courts are unlikely to resist the pressure put upon them to come up with the "right" conclusions, but never say never – all it takes is one single principled judge and Trump or, more accurately, the Giuliani team, might get the break they need. Still, it is pretty obvious that Giuliani's real hopes are with the Supreme Court. This makes sense, local judges are much easy to influence and sway than Supreme Court Justices who are unassailable and who realize that they will make history, the only question being is: how till they go down in history books, as a "profile in courage" or as impotent cowards who betrayed their oath?

I will say that I am, to put it mildly, not impressed by Trump's demeanor during these crucial days: he completely ceded the narrative to his opponents (a couple of incoherent and poorly phrased "tweets" do not qualify). True, Trump never displayed the qualities of a real leader, so this is hardly surprising.

Giuliani, however, is a tough SOB and he seems to be determined to take this fight right up to the Supreme Court. This is why I believe that it is very dangerous to make any assumptions about what the Justices might or might not do. Is it possible that even the Supreme Court justices would betray their oath and cave in to the Dem's pressure? Yes, I suppose so. Concepts such as truth, honor, integrity, courage and heroism are very much out of fashion in the modern world, especially in the US. This is why the traditionally hallowed term "hero" is applied left and right to every bureaucrat or civil servant simply doing his/her job: real heroes are long gone.

Then consider this: if the SC sides with Trump and overturns the hundred of thousands of illegal votes, the US will be immediately plunged into an orgy of chaos and violence, all of it encouraged and coordinated by the legacy corporate ziomedia à la CNN. The thugs of Antifa/BLM will immediately engage in Kristallnacht-like rampages in "protest" against the "racist system". Their main target? White, Christian, males, of course!

Some justices might even feel torn between standing up for what is both legal and moral and the practical considerations of the consequences of an adjudication in Trump's favor. Their oath ought to be their guiding principles, but considering how often the SC voted along party/ideological lines in the past, I am not very confident that the Justices will strictly do the only legally and morally right thing: uphold the law and vote their conscience.

Finally, whatever we may think of the election itself, it is obvious that the US elites have created the appearance of a fait accompli , hence the kind of nonsense like, say, Biden and his "Office of the President Elect". It is therefore reasonable to assume that even if the Supreme Court fully sides with the Trump campaign, the US elites will never accept this. They will try to find a way to impeach, legally or otherwise, those Justices who voted "wrong".

I think that there is also another consideration which we have to remain aware of: Trump's entire presidency is been one long and never ending prostitution of the United States to the desires and whims of Netanyahu and his gang of thugs. True, as Israel Shamir pointed out , the Israelis failed to deliver anything in return to Trump. And yet, as Philip Giraldi recently explained , Trump is still very much Israel's prostitute, which is why there are an increasing number of Israeli experts (see here and here ) who believe that Trump might strike at Iran as a "farewell" present to the Israelis.

Is that really possible? Could Trump really do something so crazy?

You betcha he could!

One one hand, I have always maintained that Trump is the Zionists' " disposable president ", meaning a one term president who will do everything the Likudniks want of him and who will then be jettisoned and replaced by a truly "kosher president" like Biden/Harris. On the other hand, however, there is the precedent of the US meekly taking the Iranian missile attacks in retaliation for the murder of General Soleimani which seems to indicate that the Pentagon just does not have the stomach for a full-scale war against Iran.

So which will it be?

Nobody knows. The only thing we can be sure of is that we are certainly entering very dangerous times.

Those who hope that a Biden/Harris presidency might be better are deeply deluded.

Why?

Because, as many have already pointed this out, even if Trump is ejected from the White House, "Trumpism", as an ideology, is here to stay. Even if you believe that Biden/Harris beat Trump in a fair election, surely must you still realize that there are tens of millions of Americans who feel that the election was stolen and that Biden/Harris are usurpers.


rebel yell , says: November 25, 2020 at 10:37 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago

Two points to add:
1. The most important fraud in this election wasn't with the ballots. The important corruption of our democratic process was the relentless media propaganda against populism, with increasing censorship of populist advocates, and the violent riots sponsored by the democratic party to destabilize the country. The Left used censorship and outlaw violence to swing the election. The outcome is illegitimate for those reasons alone, regardless of stuffing the ballot box.
2. Trump may not be able to sufficiently prove fraud at the ballot box to get the Supreme Court to overturn the results certified by state officials. The court will set a high bar for evidence before they will be willing to overturn state decisions on this. Even if fraud was widespread, meeting a high level of proof in a very short time, as Trump has to do, is not likely. Possession is 9/10ths of the law. If you can steal it and have it in your hand, a court may let you keep it.

A123 , says: November 26, 2020 at 1:43 am GMT • 17.4 hours ago

I rarely agree with The Saker, however this summary makes a great deal of sense.

There seems to be a quasi consensus that Trump will not prevail and that Biden and Harris will get into the White House no matter what.

Yet, I am not so sure at all. Why?

Because at this point in time, I think that it would fair to conclude that anybody actually willing to look at what has been revealed by this election will have to agree that this election was stolen, rigged, falsified

Ask yourself this question:

Why are the Biden drones so desperate to obtain a concession?

If they were certain they had it, they would be moving on to other things. Only FEAR can explain the "Trump Must Concede Now" frenzy from the TDS crowd. At some level they sense that their Blue Coup could fall apart at any second.

#NeverTrump took two big hits today in Pennsylvania and Nevada:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-blocks-certification-pennsylvania-election-results

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/huge-court-win-lets-trump-present-ballot-evidence-could-overturn-nevada-result

So many things are wrong in so many places, it is hard to see how the courts can resolve all of the challenges from multiple states before a Constitutional deadline in reached. They couldn't resolve a few problems in one state back in 2000.

Time is on Trump's side. If the Electoral College fails, it goes to the U.S. House. Each State gets 1 vote, first to 26 wins. The GOP controls 26 state delegations, DNC 21, Tied 3.

PEACE

Robert Dolan , says: November 26, 2020 at 5:12 am GMT • 13.9 hours ago

https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/definitive-case-proves-donald-trump-won-election/

Mikhail , says: Website November 26, 2020 at 6:01 am GMT • 13.1 hours ago

Netanyahu congratulated Biden as the new US prez. Does that limit Trump's enthusiasm for doing something so rash in Israel's favor?

The Real World , says: November 26, 2020 at 6:25 am GMT • 12.7 hours ago
@IvyMike

It's been going on a loooonng time, Mike. Where have you been living, Siberia?

And the 2020 election? It's so over-the-top how brazen and multi-tiered it was. Russell Ramsland knows precisely some of the electronic cheating angles. He showed election people in KY how it happened in their Gov race in 2019. Scroll to 30 min mark and watch that action.

Here, educate yourself.


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/7iHamGlCJNgJ/

A Competent Physicist , says: November 26, 2020 at 6:41 am GMT • 12.5 hours ago

Sometimes, things can turn on a dime.

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

Ray Caruso , says: November 26, 2020 at 6:41 am GMT • 12.5 hours ago
@IvyMike

The falsity of the Russian collusion allegations, for which there was zero evidence, in no way impugns the veracity of the current allegations of electoral fraud. In fact, the opposite is true: the existence of the Russia collusion allegations indicates a pattern of fraudulent scams directed against Trump by Democrat cockroaches. The Democrat Party is a criminal organization, one a country worthy of respect -- that is to say, a country very different from the United States -- would ban and one whose members said country would prosecute for corruption, sedition, insurrection, and treason.

Jimmy The Cop , says: November 26, 2020 at 6:59 am GMT • 12.2 hours ago

Would love to see Trump thumb his nose at the establishment on his way out by pardoning a whole cast of characters like Assange, Manning, Snowden, Peltier and countless other "enemies" of the state.

The government of the US is too important to leave to the will of a mob. Therefore you will hear nothing of what really happens when you vote. Maybe freeing a few whistle-blowers will shed some light on the deep, dark state of affairs that really pull the strings in the swamp.

Dumbo , says: November 26, 2020 at 7:04 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago
@IvyMike

So Biden was the most voted candidate in the history of the U.S.? Biden??

Lee , says: November 26, 2020 at 8:11 am GMT • 11.0 hours ago

For the more hopeful -- lawsuits have just been filed in GA and MI.

They can both be read online. Pretty convincing stuff -- will it be enough -- IDK.

Hard to believe that any lawsuit could cause a states court system to rule against the legislators that put the process in place that created the systemic voter fraud. We will see.

Derer , says: November 26, 2020 at 8:49 am GMT • 10.3 hours ago

Trump (most likely) lost the election. He was defeated by three forces:

a) Democrats' dishonest manipulation of mailing ballots especially in states they administratively control. Abhorrent deeds.

b) Corporate globalists influence Tramp was not their president.

c) Military junta influence they need wars and not withdrawal.

Jake , says: November 26, 2020 at 1:14 pm GMT • 5.9 hours ago
@RoatanBill of an occupying parasitic regime which sees them solely as a (cheap) commodity.

That parasitic regime is not new. It is the American version of the UK parasitic regime that saw the Irish, Scots, Welsh, and virtually all the non-elite English as serfs to be used and abused and cast aside when profitable to do so. It is a WASP thing, a central feature of WASP culture.

And for those who must have the villain be Jewish, as Jews have been indispensable bankers of WASP Empire back to archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell, it is also a Jewish thing.

It is part and parcel of Anglo-Zionist Empire.

Jake , says: November 26, 2020 at 1:14 pm GMT • 5.9 hours ago
@RoatanBill

The best single line in that cogent overview is this one:

Whether they realize it or not, most Americans are serfs of an occupying parasitic regime which sees them solely as a (cheap) commodity.

That parasitic regime is not new. It is the American version of the UK parasitic regime

[Nov 26, 2020] Voting Machine Company Co-Founder Killed in Small Plane Crash in Caracas

Nov 26, 2020 | www.bradblog.com

Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States of the acquisition of Sequoia Voting Systems by Smartmatic, a foreign-owned company

Even CNN Reported

The Democrats were worried

There are numerous articles going back decades on this stuff up until about two months before the election by all the major networks and newspapers. Everything got very quiet two months prior to the election.

Dominions manual says they have a remote access feature and they are connected to the internet despite their lies in front of Congress in January 2020 saying they did not. Their tabulators can be accessed remotely using Webx and other custom applications.

Unfortunately I have the manual in PDF and the link is not available. I find it interesting that their older manuals have blacked out portions just like a FOIA document release. Look for Dominion Democracy suite manuals 4.4 and 5.5 and up.

Look at the black box voting website and a gentleman on a voting commission built a simple application that runs in the background and switches vote fractionally across all voting company platforms as the software was all built on the same foundation application from Venezuela.

https://blackboxvoting.org/
The video is called fractional magic.

Evidence of fraud? It is massive and everywhere. We need to get back to paper ballots and same day voting with absentee ballots given on request with a legitimate excuse for not showing up on election day. Signature verification and sign in to vote. Voting locations in every precinct not a few locations per county. That is how it used to work. That would be cheaper than 100 million dollar mega systems connected to the internet with remote access.

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 26 2020 21:57 utc | 43

[Nov 26, 2020] 5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms

Nov 26, 2020 | thefederalist.com

5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms Surely the journalist class should be intrigued by the historic implausibility of Joe Biden's victory. That they are not is curious, to say the least. J.B. Shurk By J.B. Shurk NOVEMBER 23, 2020

In all the excitement among objective journalists for Joe Biden's declared victory, reporters are missing how extraordinary the Democrat's performance was in the 2020 election. It's not just that the former vice president is on track to become the oldest president in American history, it's what he managed to accomplish at the polls this year.

Candidate Joe Biden was so effective at animating voters in 2020 that he received a record number of votes, more than 15 million more than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012. Amazingly, he managed to secure victory while also losing in almost every bellwether county across the country. No presidential candidate has been capable of such electoral jujitsu until now.

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While Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton's 2016 totals in every urban county in the United States, he outperformed her in the metropolitan areas of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Even more surprising, the former VP put up a record haul of votes, despite Democrats' general failures in local House and state legislative seats across the nation.

He accomplished all this after receiving a record low share of the primary vote compared to his Republican opponent heading into the general election. Clearly, these are tremendous and unexpected achievements that would normally receive sophisticated analysis from the journalist class but have somehow gone mostly unmentioned during the celebrations at news studios in New York City and Washington, D.C.

The massive national political realignment now taking place may be one source of these surprising upsets. Yet still, to have pulled so many rabbits out of his hat like this, nobody can deny that Biden is a first-rate campaigner and politician, the likes of which America has never before seen. Let's break down just how unique his political voodoo has been in 2020.

1. 80 Million Votes

Holy moly! A lot of Americans turned out for a Washington politician who's been in office for nearly 50 years. Consider this: no incumbent president in nearly a century and a half has gained votes in a re-election campaign and still lost.

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President Trump gained more than ten million votes since his 2016 victory, but Biden's appeal was so substantial that it overcame President Trump's record support among minority voters. Biden also shattered Barack Obama's own popular vote totals, really calling into question whether it was not perhaps Biden who pulled Obama across the finish lines in 2008 and 2012.

Proving how sharp his political instincts are, the former VP managed to gather a record number of votes while consistently trailing President Trump in measures of voter enthusiasm . Biden was so savvy that he motivated voters unenthusiastic about his campaign to vote for him in record numbers.

2. Winning Despite Losing Most Bellwether Counties

Biden is set to become the first president in 60 years to lose the states of Ohio and Florida on his way to election. For a century, these states have consistently predicted the national outcome, and they have been considered roughly representative of the American melting pot as a whole. Despite national polling giving Biden a lead in both states, he lost Ohio by eight points and Florida by more than three .

For Biden to lose these key bellwethers by notable margins and still win the national election is newsworthy. Not since the Mafia allegedly aided John F. Kennedy in winning Illinois over Richard Nixon in 1960 has an American president pulled off this neat trick.

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Even more unbelievably, Biden is on his way to winning the White House after having lost almost every historic bellwether county across the country. The Wall Street Journal and The Epoch Times independently analyzed the results of 19 counties around the United States that have nearly perfect presidential voting records over the last 40 years. President Trump won every single bellwether county, except Clallam County in Washington.

Whereas the former VP picked up Clallam by about three points, President Trump's margin of victory in the other 18 counties averaged over 16 points . In a larger list of 58 bellwether counties that have correctly picked the president since 2000, Trump won 51 of them by an average of 15 points, while the other seven went to Biden by around four points. Bellwether counties overwhelmingly chose President Trump, but Biden found a path to victory anyway.

3. Biden Trailed Clinton Except in a Select Few Cities

Patrick Basham , a pollster with an accurate track record and the director of the Democracy Institute in D.C., highlighted two observations made by fellow colleagues, polling guru Richard Baris of Big Data Poll and Washington Post election analyst Robert Barnes. Baris noted a statistical oddity from 2020's election returns: "Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia."

Barnes added that in those "big cities in swing states run by Democrats the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters." In the states that mattered most, so many mail-in ballots poured in for Biden from the cities that he put up record-breaking numbers and overturned state totals that looked like comfortable leads for President Trump.

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If Democrats succeed in eliminating the Electoral College, Biden's magic formula for churning out overwhelming vote totals in a handful of cities should make the Democrats unbeatable.

4. Biden Won Despite Democrat Losses Everywhere Else

Randy DeSoto noted in The Western Journal that "Donald Trump was pretty much the only incumbent president in U.S. history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives." Now that's a Biden miracle!

In 2020, The Cook Political Report and The New York Times rated 27 House seats as toss-ups going into Election Day. Right now, Republicans appear to have won all 27 . Democrats failed to flip a single state house chamber, while Republicans flipped both the House and Senate in New Hampshire and expanded their dominance of state legislatures across the country.

Christina Polizzi , a spokesperson for the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, went so far as to state: "It's clear that Trump isn't an anchor for the Republican legislative candidates. He's a buoy." Amazingly, Biden beat the guy who lifted all other Republicans to victory. Now that's historic!

5. Biden Overcame Trump's Commanding Primary Vote

In the past, primary vote totals have been remarkably accurate in predicting general election winners. Political analyst David Chapman highlighted three historical facts before the election.

First , no incumbent who has received 75 percent of the total primary vote has lost re-election. Second , President Trump received 94 percent of the primary vote, which is the fourth highest of all time (higher than Dwight Eisenhower, Nixon, Clinton, or Obama). In fact, Trump is only one of five incumbents since 1912 to receive more than 90 percent of the primary vote.

Third , Trump set a record for most primary votes received by an incumbent when more than 18 million people turned out for him in 2020 (the previous record, held by Bill Clinton, was half that number). For Biden to prevail in the general election, despite Trump's historic support in the primaries, turns a century's worth of prior election data on its head.

Joe Biden achieved the impossible. It's interesting that many more journalists aren't pointing that out. J.B. Shurk is a proud American from Daniel Boone country.

[Nov 26, 2020] PA Data Scientist Says He 'Personally Observed' USB Cards 'Being Uploaded to Voting Machines' over 24 Times

Nov 26, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

910 PA Senate Republicans

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Gregory Stenstrom, a poll watcher in Pennsylvania and CEO of a data sciences company, testified on Wednesday that he witnessed over 24 instances of USB cards being connected to voting machines during the ballot counting process.

Stenstrom spoke at a State Senate Majority Policy Committee hearing in Gettysburg, PA. He addressed his observations as a poll watcher in Delaware County, PA:

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I personally observed USB cards being uploaded to voting machines by the voting machine warehouse supervisor on multiple occasions. I saw this personally. I brought it to the attention of the deputy sheriff who was there stationed, who was a senior law enforcement officer, and I brought to the attention of the clerk of elections.

I brought it to their attention. I objected, and I said this person is not being observed. He's not part of the process that I can see, and he's walking in with baggies -- which we have pictures of and it was submitted in our affidavits -- and he was sticking these USBs into the machines.

So I personally witnessed that happen over 24 times. We have multiple other witnesses who saw it, including Democrat poll watchers.

Stenstrom said he had been told by U.S. Attorney William McSwain such conduct with USBs and voting machines is unusual.

"As of today, 47 USB cards are missing, and they are nowhere to be found," added Stenstrom. "I was told personally that these 24 to 30 cards that were uploaded weren't there." jerryg1018 14 hours ago

The democrats had four years to plan for this. Probably accelerated their plan once they realized Trump wasn't going to be removed from office by impeachment.

50 Reply Share › Avatar Deplorable Badger jerryg1018 9 hours ago

My wife and I listened to the entire 3.5 hours yesterday on Right Side Broadcasting. I think the Demonrats were planning for a much lesser amount of cheating that would keep the books balanced, which probably entailed shaving votes from Trump and giving them to Biden. After seeing Trump was up by 700,000 votes at 9:00 am, they shut down the counting and did massive cheating during the night. According to PA's Secretary of State website, 1.8 Million absentee ballots were mailed out and 1.4 Million were returned. They final absentee ballot count was 2.5 Million. This cheating was massive and planned in a panic mode and seems to be getting uncovered.

After Trump rightfully wins his second term, Rudy Giuliani needs be appointed a Special Prosecutor or become Attorney General. Rudy sounded to me like he is putting together a RICO case against the bad actors. Rudy needs to crush the cheating Demonrat bastards. SoA-to-SoE Deplorable Badger 5 hours ago

Once again, they underestimated the vote count for Trump. Once it became apparent he was running away with this election, he was up so much, they had to move to plan D. With this amount of correction, things are bound to get sloppy and there are several loose ends. Hence the hurry to put a lid on it, declare Biden the winner and move on. Again, the man fights back which they still don't understand. The longer this goes on, the more nervous the bad actors get and all it will take is for Rudy to subpoena the people who want to come forward but fear for their safety if they come forward on their own. Once you get one songbird, this thing folds like a deck chair on the Titanic. This has been so coordinated and orchestrated at the highest levels it will shake this country to its core. Buckle up. amans patriam Deplorable Badger 6 hours ago

1.8 Million absentee ballots mailed
1.4 Million returned
2.5 million absentee ballots counted

On that data alone, how can any reasonable, fair minded, honest person conclude that the final PA vote tally should be used as a basis to select PA's EC electors?

I wonder if there is some confusion over "absentee" and "mail-in". Do the numbers cited above relate ONLY to "absentee" ballots? Gatsby'sPool amans patriam 4 hours ago • edited

Where did you get those numbers from?

The actual numbers are 3 million requested and 2.6 returned.

https://electproject.github... tom amans patriam 6 hours ago

Look at the charts on dominion , spike at 99% for biden after they shutdown the count . They have recorded the spikes and charted the impossible reading that doctoral country's don't get . Witnessed by a cyber war expert tom Gatsby'sPool 4 hours ago

Eyewitness testimony by the most professional tech guy watching 24 chips being up loaded into a internet vote counting machines. jersey jerryg1018 8 hours ago

They had a few primary elections to practice on first. I read somewhere they used same crap to steal primary election from Bernie in a few states.

[Nov 26, 2020] Judge Blocks Certification Of 'Remaining' Pennsylvania Election Results; Boockvar Appeals To PA Supreme Court -

Nov 26, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

A Pennsylvania judge on Wednesday ordered state officials to not certify the results of the 2020 election until her court holds a hearing on an election contest on Friday.

Commonwealth Judge Patricia McCullough ordered the state to not take any further steps to complete the certification of the presidential race, which the state announced on Tuesday. She also blocked the certification of all the other election results.

"To the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States of America, respondents are preliminarily enjoined from doing so, pending an evidentiary hearing to be held on Friday," the judge wrote in her order ( pdf ).

" Respondents are preliminarily enjoined from certifying the remaining results of the election, pending the evidentiary hearing ."

McCullough is presiding over a lawsuit brought by Republican lawmakers and candidates against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Gov. Tom Wolf (D), Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar, and the Pennsylvania General Assembly.

The plaintiffs alleged that Pennsylvania's vote-by-mail stature -- Act 77 -- is in violation of the state's constitution.

"Act 77 is the most expansive and fundamental change to the Pennsylvania voting code, implemented illegally, to date," the lawsuit , filed in the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, states.

"As with prior historical attempts to illegally expand mail-in voting by statute, which have been struck down going as far back as the Military Absentee Ballot Act of 1839, Act 77 is another illegal attempt to override the limitations on absentee voting prescribed in the Pennsylvania Constitution, without first following the necessary procedure to amend the constitution to allow for the expansion."

The plaintiffs include Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.), Republican congressional candidate Sean Parnell, and Pennsylvania House of Representatives candidate Wanda Logan.

Marc Elias, one of the top attorneys leading the Democrats' post-election legal battles, called the lawsuit frivolous.

"Republican Congressman Mike Kelly has filed a new frivolous lawsuit in Pennsylvania seeking to block the state from certifying the election results and having the state legislature choose electors," Elias wrote on Twitter on Nov. 21. "This is absolutely shameful."

President Donald Trump responded to Elias, writing: "This is not at all frivolous. It is brought on behalf of one of the most respected members of the United States Congress who is disgusted, like so many others, by an Election that is a fraudulent mess. Fake ballots, dead people voting, no Republican Poll Watchers allowed, & more!"

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, signed Act 77 into law on Oct. 31, 2019. Eight of the nine sponsors of the bill in the Pennsylvania Senate were Republicans.

[Nov 26, 2020] Pennsylvania Judge Halts Further Vote Certification Steps

Nov 26, 2020 | www.msn.com

A Pennsylvania judge issued an order preventing the state from taking additional steps to certify its election results until she holds a hearing on Friday morning.

The ruling on Wednesday by Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough in Pittsburgh halts the process "to the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election." Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar certified President-elect Joe Biden's 80,555-vote Pennsylvania victory yesterday, and Governor Tom Wolf appointed electors for the state. Boockvar and Wolf are both Democrats.

he case before McCullough is separate from the federal lawsuit by President Donald Trump's campaign that seeks to undo Pennsylvania's certification unless it tosses out tens of thousands of mail-in ballots the suit alleges are illegal. The state case was brought by Pennsylvania Republicans led by U.S. Representative Mike Kelly, who sought to derail certification by arguing that the state's expansion of mail-in voting was illegal.

[Nov 26, 2020] Nevada Election Fraud case given the go-ahead for depositions. Read the full court filing that shows MASSIVE fraud, clear violations of US Constitution Equal Protection Clause use of faulty, faulty, faulty AI voter signature machines:

Nov 26, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

UndergroundPost , 1 day ago

And don't miss this:

Nevada Election Fraud case given the go-ahead for depositions. Read the full court filing that shows MASSIVE fraud, clear violations of US Constitution Equal Protection Clause & use of faulty, faulty, faulty AI voter signature machines:

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/nov-17-doc-2.pdf

Will Geriatric Joe Puppet and the lying DEM Machine be so keen on "reconciliation" after their fraud is so overwhelmingly apparent proving Trump really won?

[Nov 26, 2020] Fatal Vulnerabilities

Nov 26, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com

Experts on both sides of the political divide concede that both voter fraud and election fraud occur with considerable frequency since the advent of electronic voting machines. In addition to Dominion and ES&S, only five other companies dominate this space: Tenex, SGO/Smartmatic, Hart InterCivic, Demtech, and Premier (formerly Diebold).

Virtually all have been accused of vote count manipulation or other irregularities associated with their systems. Hart, for instance, was accused of vote flipping (the practice of switching the votes from one candidate to their opponent) in Texas. Dominion also ran into issues in the Lone Star state when its systems failed certification over accessibility problems.

"Much of the equipment being used to record and count votes," explains Jonathan Simon, "is either modem-equipped, which leaves it highly vulnerable to remote interference, or programmed with the use of other computers than are internet-connected, allowing the alteration of memory cards and code running in either precinct-level machines (like BMDs, DREs, or Optical Scanners) or central tabulators."

Examples of these dangerous weaknesses were explored in a recent video published by a self-styled national security professional, L. Todd Wood , where conservative elections security expert, Russ Ramsland, breaks down his findings from a forensic analysis of a 1000+ page voter log taken out of Dallas County's central tabulation center in the aftermath of the 2018 midterm elections.

https://cdn.iframe.ly/M7DMJcB?v=1&app=1

Ramsland identified instances of votes being replaced in 96 precincts, an inordinate number of database "updates" and other serious irregularities that point to vote-count manipulation and amount to election fraud. His most explosive allegation centered around claims of real-time vote-swapping in the 2019 gubernatorial election in Kentucky, where Ramsland asserts that thousands of votes originally given for the Republican candidate were swapped live on a CNN broadcast and added to the tally of the Democratic candidate, Andy Beshear, who would end up winning the election.

Ramsland also alleged that the election data of that race was being stored in a server in Frankfurt, Germany before being cycled through the central tabulation database, which syncs automatically with the numbers shown to television viewers. This server has been pounced on by Trump supporters in recent days and repeated by Rudy Giuliani in his podcast on Friday when he also purported to have direct evidence of election fraud.

While it is practically impossible for the layman to unravel the complexities underlying the encryption and cloud technologies underlying the present-day election system in the United States, few can doubt that moving towards a digital voting system removes whatever last vestiges of control the regular American citizen had in a once participatory exercise of democracy.

Asked if democracy can even exist under such conditions, Simon refers to a prediction he made in "CODE RED," in which he augurs "an inexorable progression to where we are now: public trust eroded, the losers making wild allegations, no one able to prove anything, [and] everyone kind of waking up to the realization that our concealed computerized vote-counting process does not yield evidence-based results."

[Nov 26, 2020] It's critical that the legal team nail down the machine manipulation using SMOTE (Synthetic Minority Over-sampling Technique) written by Aleksandar Lazarevic.

Nov 26, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

BulkBeing , 1 day ago

It's critical that the legal team nail down the machine manipulation using SMOTE (Synthetic Minority Over-sampling Technique) written by Aleksandar Lazarevic. Trail leads to Belgrade, Serbia and Dominion Voting Systems with chips made in China.

[Nov 26, 2020] The Help America Vote Act (HAVA), passed by a Republican-controlled House was the Troyon horse which made centralized election hacking possible

Nov 26, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com

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In a prolific time for draconian government overreach, one of the lesser-known pieces of legislation proposed by the Bush administration was the Help America Vote Act ( HAVA ), passed by a Republican-controlled House and a unanimous vote by a Democrat-led Senate in December 2001. The bill was signed into law 11 months later and "greatly accelerated the full computerization of U.S. elections," according to Jonathan Simon, an election integrity advocate and author of "Code Red, Computerized Election Theft and The New American Century," in an interview with MintPress .

Simon describes the legislation's carrot-and-stick approach to goad states into adopting technologies like touchscreen voting systems known as DREs, which were later replaced with barcode systems or BMDs, which were "entirely lacking in cyber-security provisions to protect the increasingly concealed process it promoted." Among the bill's authors is none other than the current Senate leader and Republican kingmaker, Mitch McConnell, who has defended Trump's right to challenge the election results without committing to a particular outcome.

"If, as was claimed," Simon continues, "HAVA would make voting easier and thus increase turnout, as we can see clearly today, that was decidedly not a GOP goal, certainly not of a tactician like McConnell." The partisan motivations Simon ascribes to HAVA are clear enough, and, as he points out, should have been clear to Democrats as well. But, the argument that the American liberal establishment had no inkling of the ramifications fails to account for the Democrats' own forays into the closely held universe of electronic voting systems.

[Nov 26, 2020] Spook Paradise

Nov 26, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com

With the extremes of the American political spectrum lighting up in deep reds and blues, whatever emerges out of the ashes won't resemble much that came before it, and regardless of the election results, America's inexorable march towards techno-fascism is moving right along.


Watch | America's Election Debacle Highlights Anti-Democratic Hijinks of Both Parties

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Actual voter and election fraud takes place in every national American election and is just as prevalent in state and municipal elections, as well. From vote splitting to voter suppression tactics to direct manipulation of election results, both political parties have usurped the electoral processes to lie and cheat their way into power more than once.

But with the advent of digital voting systems, even the scandals we always seem to hear about far too late will vanish from sight, as well. The most straightforward aspect of democracy – voting – is disappearing behind a curtain of ones and zeros that only technocratic lackeys will be able to pull back. Trump, who was plucked from the reality TV screen like Jeff Daniels in "The Purple Rose of Cairo" and inserted into the national contest for the highest office in the land, will do nothing to change that.

Publically available FBI documents show the sitting president has been an FBI informant since the early eighties and his rise to the highest office in the land was not the case of a brash, independent billionaire who decided to run for president to "Make America Great Again." After all, Donald Trump's long-standing ties with the very "deep state" many of his staunchest supporters are convinced he is dismantling, actually reveals a factional war among the ruling class behind the scenes.

With a president who is as deep state as it gets, if there's something we can take away from the last four years and these last few days since the election, it's that the American establishment's over-the-top partisanship has been a ruse undertaken to hide the fact that they are united in waging a class war like never before.

[Nov 26, 2020] Jimmy Carter warned 15 years ago of serious 2020 election problems

Nov 26, 2020 | www.wnd.com

Jay Stephen 2 days ago • edited ,

This election proves that our Department of Justice, the FBI, CIA, and all our intelligence agencies are controlled by the deep state and the military industrial establishment so that they can install the candidates of their choice in every election, otherwise they would have exposed the totally unsecure Dominion voting machines years ago. They didn't manipulate the 2016 presidential election because it was a foregone conclusion with them all that Hillary was a shoe in. It has been proven that they were able to access the software to flip votes in 2018 from Bevin to Beshear to install him as governor in Kentucky.

HongryHawg 2 days ago ,

So now the question becomes, why bother to vote at all, Republican or Democrat. The fixers are gonna choose, regardless of who gets the lever pulled for them the most. "Every vote matters" no longer matters.

IrishMailey HongryHawg 2 days ago ,

NO, always vote. The reason there is such obvious cheating on a national level is so many voted for Trump the leftist had to dig up pre-print4d "Biden" votes in the middle of the night in PA, WI, NV, and MI to counter the real vote. And their fear and mammoth cheating has displayed for the world how criminal and anti-American the left is. And for that blatant felony, we are going to win the election legally.

[Nov 26, 2020] Yes, Election Fraud is Real. And its a Longstanding Tradition on Both Sides of the Aisle

Nov 26, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com

Cyberbullies

Part of the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency's mission centers on assuring compliance with DHS dictates surrounding election security protocols. The standalone federal agency with oversight from the Department of Homeland Security was formed two years after an embarrassing incident involving DHS occurred during the 2016 general election, when Georgia's then secretary of state,­ – now governor – Brian Kemp, announced that cyberattacks on its voting systems had been traced to the federal law enforcement agency.

Washington Mulls National Guard at Polls as Obama-era Russiagaters Profer Election Advice A neoliberal think tank filled with Obama-era national security officials has been advising State District Attorneys Offices on how to prepare for election violence. MintPress News | Raul Diego | Nov 16

In 2020 with CISA firmly in place, DHS' cybersecurity division implemented a " 24/7 war room " to ostensibly guard against election hacking. CISA's Krebs, a former cybersecurity policy director at Microsoft, led the effort to "monitor a network of every state's election system simultaneously until every vote is counted," according to News Nation , which was allowed to bring a camera crew into the operation in Fort Meade , Maryland.

In the lead up to the 2020 election, warnings about Russian and Iranian cyberwarriors running roughshod over the electoral contest were everywhere in U.S. media. Dire warnings of an existential threat to democracy by foreign actors that never materialized were leveraged to implement new security measures in partnership with the private sector. Krebs floated the excuse for a conspicuously absent horde of Eurasian hackers, that America's enemies chose to "sit out this election" in a recent New York Times article .

The fact is that neither Russia nor Iran have anywhere near the level of access to America's election system as the handful of private companies who are part of an electronic voting machine cartel, which currently controls over 92% of the elections market in the United States.

[Nov 26, 2020] Exclusive -- Trump Lawyer Jenna Ellis Receives Threats- 'You Deserved to Be Raped'

Lawyers by nature of their profession sometimes are representing horrible criminals. So such threat need to be investigated as terrorism (use of vioolence to achieve a political goal) and the threat to the integrity of the US legal system.
Nov 26, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Jenna Ellis, a legal advisor to President Donald Trump and senior legal adviser to the Trump campaign, has received threats, late night phone calls from unfamiliar numbers, and public calls for her disbarment, she told Breitbart News exclusively Wednesday.

Via direct message (DM), Ellis told Breitbart News that she had received "Hundreds of DMs and messages etc threatening me."

Some threats have been public, like attempts to have her disbarred and encouraging the public to file Bar complaints.

Others have been more direct -- and less subtle.

She added: "CNN reporter messaged today accusing me of my bar license being lapsed. Unknown number has called my cell dozens of times between midnight and 4am to blow up my phone and try to get through the DND [do not disturb]."

Ellis provided Breitbart News with a screen grab of text messages from an unknown person who attempted to provoke her to respond, ending with: "You're a f**king c**t. You're the reason people despise humanity. You deserved to be raped."

Other Trump attorneys have been harassed, including by the Lincoln Project, a group of Never Trump Republicans who have encouraged the public to harass law firms taking up the president's case.

The mainstream media has defended these efforts; the Washington Post , for example, published an op-ed Nov. 12 titled "Yes, going after Trump's law firms is fair game." Trump's lawyers in Pennsylvania withdrew the following day, reportedly because of threats.

Joe Biden has not said anything about the threats against Trump's legal team, as scholar Jonathan Turley has noted.

"When such actions were taken against lawyers representing civil rights groups and others in the 1960s, it was correctly denounced as an outrageous abuse of our legal system," Turley tweeted this week. "Now it has become a campaign supported by politicians, lawyers, and the media."

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News and the host of Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot on Sunday evenings from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. ET (4 p.m. to 7 p.m. PT). His newest e-book is The Trumpian Virtues: The Lessons and Legacy of Donald Trump's Presidency . His recent book, RED NOVEMBER , tells the story of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary from a conservative perspective. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak .

[Nov 26, 2020] A battle between neoliberal corporatist Vs Neoliberal Corporatist is being described as left verses right

Nov 26, 2020 | off-guardian.org

It is like Gerald Celente always says. 'When everything fails they take you to war.'


Janken , Nov 22, 2020 12:11 PM Reply to White Horse Mountain

"The 2020 election was stolen because leftists were able to exploit the coronavirus pandemic to weaken, alter, and eliminate laws that were put in place over the course of decades to preserve the integrity of the ballot box."

'Leftist' in the American context is nonsense, there is nothing left-wing about these 'Leftists' Nothing! Political terminology in the USA has become absolute nonsense. This is Alice in wonderland stuff. A battle between neoliberal corporatist Vs Neoliberal Corporatist is being described as left verses right, it isn't. It is a war of the far-right against the far-right. They are the same, in every meaningful way.

Glen Batterham , Nov 23, 2020 11:21 PM Reply to Janken

True it's like a gang of mobsters.
Even though there is regular infighting for supremacy, they're all still in on the same racket.
Faction X vs faction Y is probably a better description than Democrat vs Republican or Labor vs Tories, or whatever. But it definitely isn't left vs right in any traditional sense.

Thom , Nov 22, 2020 9:17 AM

I think you mean 'imperialists' not 'globalists'. Globalism isn't a bad objective, which is probably why the far-right are trying co-opt and thereby malign the term.

From Far Away , Nov 22, 2020 1:47 PM Reply to Thom

[ Globalism isn't a bad objective ]

So what exactly are you talking about?

Here are three three examples:

(1) The development of social, economic, cultural, or technological networks that transcend national boundaries.
(2) The attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations.
(3) The policy or doctrine of involving one's country in international affairs, alliances, etc.

[ which is probably why the far-right are trying co-opt and thereby malign the term. ]

I suggest you at least try to strive for a fair, honest discussion instead of impulsively ascribing bad motives on people. Sadly your observation reveals no logical, reasoned evidence but rather your obvious dislike of some people you clearly have no problem wilfully demonising.

Berrent , Nov 22, 2020 9:05 AM

Empire does some stuff under the banner of 'the left' for 4 years and then they do other stuff under the banner of the far-right. This creates the illusion of democracy. It's a sedative for the people. The fake left will never do anything that really helps the population, that is not allowed. The 'Green New Deal' is Corporate welfare just like Trump's tax cuts were. Nov 22, 2020 8:15 AM

George Soros's Antifa has gone quiet after the U.S.presidential election of November 3rd. Or has it? Two Republican election board officials in Michigan reversed their opposition to certifying the election after threats were made to them and their families.

Coincidentally similar, transparent threats went viral and no doubt election supervisors in many other districts saw this as a threat of vengeance if they dared to follow their conscience and stand up against election fraud.

You can be sure Antifa is moving hell and high water to ensure party discipline, as per the Open Society Foundation's objectives. They're busy. That's why they haven't been so active on the streets, except to swarm and threaten citizens who dared to rally in Washington DC and other cities in favour of fair and open elections.

JFK WAS JUST AN APPETIZER
Be careful what you wish for, is a trope in politics, especially when it means collaborating with anti-democratic forces for short-term objectives. The event of Nov 22, 1963, was a hair trigger, since when the willful destruction of the American political system has gone into overdrive. Like one of Shakespeare's tragedies, one murder required another until brother and son were silenced and then all those involved stood in line to share in the spoils: LBJ, Nixon, Ford and the Bushes in particular. To this day only Donald Trump and arguably Jimmy Carter were not connected to the assassins in some way.

The public execution of John F Kennedy was the work of external influences as much as internal. The U.S. has long been the plaything of interests that show no loyalty to mere citizens or institutions.

Those interests may be home-reared, like the criminal Rockefeller combine or foreign, like the bankers hiding behind the red shield or star. What they have in common is their readiness to use America as a permanent factory of war – the wartime economy as much as the people – and then to dump them.

Not only to drop them when they have served their purpose but to disassemble the economy on which they rely, to infiltrate society and destroy every one of its pillars – from family to fatherhood, selling a false promise to women and mothers that ends in loneliness and dependency, and attacking their children by promoting the dealing of drugs with a for-profit prison at the end of a one-way street.

When I first encountered the campaign of former LAPD detective Michael Ruppert against the Central Intelligence Agency's distribution of cocaine in inner city neighburhoods, I struggled to understand the mentality of those who would do this. See Ruppert confront CIA director John Deutsch https://youtu.be/IMBu0YTwfXc&nbsp ;

CONSUMING SOCIETY
George H.W. Bush came into focus because his involvement in the JFK assassination, which is beyond doubt: his long involvement in preparing the Cuban exiles cover story; his deliberate misdirection as to his whereabouts on Nov 22nd; his deliberate fingering of an innocent man; his attempt to misdirect FBI Director J.E. Hoover, recorded in a memo; photographs of Bush on the day; and the presence of he and his son in the long line of succession from the assassins.

His motives bothered me. I tried to get inside his mind: was it that of an ultra-right wing patriot who though he was saving his nation through assassination? (I think of Bush's associate in El Salvador's death squads of the 1970s-80s Roberto D'Aubuisson who ordered the murder, as he celebrated mass, of Archibishop Oscar Romero).

Then I returned to the work of Michael Ruppert and Gary Webb who exposed how Bush and his CIA-FBI-LAPD cohort viewed the country's Black population as nothing more than disposable, to be turned into an internal market for crack cocaine so that Bush could finance his wars in Central America; so that the FBI could undermine the Black Panther movement and create fake, FBI-manufactured terrorists in order to push the domestic political agenda rightward.

It goes on to this day. See Trevor Aaronson's The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI's Manufactured War on Terrorism .

The LAPD built a computer database on the population from which it could not only track criminals but, arguably, cultivate them and use them in manufactured happenings for reasons much more nefarious than trying to justify a bigger police budget. After the FBI's counter intelligence program CoIntelPro was exposed in 1971, the LAPD's files found their way to the Western Goals Foundation, linked to the John Birch Society and the World Anti-Communist League.

JOHN BIRCH AS ORANGE MAN BAD
Here we veer into distraction. Researchers of the 1970s and 80s saw the John Birch Society as a hard-line wedge to build an authoritarian society -- and the CIA and the Council on Foreign Relations must have been happy for the Birchers to take the heat.

What we know today, however, casts a different light on those vested interests and we have a clearer view of who was seeking an authoritarian society in the service of globalist masters.

See this interview with Western Goals founder Congressman Larry McDonald on the links between the CFR, the United Nations and the CIA. McDonald speaks to Pat Buchanan and Tom Braden, co-hosts of Crossfire.
I recommend reading the words of Tom Braden with an ear to CNN journalists today, along with the rest of the Corporatist Media. The tone is identical, but so is their focus on denying a particular agenda.

MEDIA MOCKINGBIRDS AT WORK
Tom Braden was a CIA operative and journalist. In true Mockingbird media style, Braden quotes one of the CIA's own Mockingbird outlets, Newsweek, as if it is an independent source: "The John Birch Society considers communism only one arm of a master conspiracy in which socialist American insiders are plotting to establish world government."

Tom Braden: "That kind of silly, asinine statement is what makes people laugh at the John Birch Society."

This week the New York Times blithely ignored the World Economic Forum's stated policy and declared: The baseless 'Great Reset' conspiracy theory rises again , Nov 17, 2020.

MORE AT: https://moneycircus.blogspot.com/2020/11/from-jfk-to-new-world-order.html

Larry McDonald on the New World Order. Pt 1/2

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hlkD5z740w0?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en-US&autohide=2&wmode=transparent

Moneycircus , Nov 22, 2020 9:01 AM Reply to Moneycircus

Fixed link
Michael Ruppert confronts Director of Central Intelligence John Deutch over the use of inner city Black populations as a dumping ground for drugs https://youtu.be/IMBu0YTwfXc

Gerell , Nov 22, 2020 11:16 AM Reply to Moneycircus

There was NO New World Order, that is now very clear. it was a fantasy put out by the alt-right (CIA) to distract from the USA's aim of world hegemony, and which is the only game in town, supported by a ubiquitous CIA and 800 US military bases around the world, enforcing the dollar as universal currency.

The threat is not socialism, (I wish), the real threat is American Empire and their neoliberal corporate oligarchy which is sweeping the world.

kevin , Nov 22, 2020 5:12 PM Reply to Gerell

Actually, it is increasingly clear that we are on the verge of the totalitarian New World Order, and you don't need to be "alt-right" or whatever to see it.

Seamus Padraig , Nov 22, 2020 12:07 PM Reply to Moneycircus

Antifa is definitely not dormant. They attacked some of the demonstrators at the Million Maga March in DC just last weekend.

As far as the John Birch Society is concerned, they were controlled opposition from start. John Birch himself had actually been an OSS asset during the war; his 'missionary work' in China was just diplomatic cover. (The OSS, for those of you who don't know, was the Office of Special Services–the predecessor organization of the CIA founded during the war.) After his death, it was candy magnate Robert Welch who founded the society that bore his name. The Birchers would rail on and on about 'communism' rather than Globalism during the Cold War in order to give patriotic Americans the impression that all of the subversion going on in their country was the work of a foreign power rather than their own élites and government. And that's why, even though they sometimes raised a good point here or there–most controlled-opposition groups do eventually–they were never a true threat to the system, just a controlled opposition. (And they never, ever attacked Zionism . A Bircher could be expelled merely for uttering the J-word in public.)

kevin , Nov 22, 2020 5:00 PM Reply to Seamus Padraig

Larry McDonald, president of the John Birch Society at the time of his death, did condemn the subversion of the globalist elite: "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

kevin , Nov 22, 2020 4:29 PM Reply to Moneycircus

Carter was definitely connected to the assassins, but much later. He was handpicked for the presidency by David Rockefeller after being recruited by his protege Zbigniew Brzezinski through the Trilateral Commission Rockefeller established in 1973, whose first director was Brzezinski. Carter's administration was known as the Trilateral administration with good reason. Carter himself may not have turned out to be the president they hoped for, however.

If it wasn't for their relationship with the Rockefellers, especially David, both Kissinger and Brzezinski would have spent their lives in academic obscurity.

Molinos , Nov 23, 2020 2:38 AM Reply to Moneycircus

Don't forget to add CIA boss Allen Dulles to your list of JFK conspirators. JFK had fired him and I am convinced he was the ringleader. See the book "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA and the Rise of America's Secret government" which is available as a PDF.

Lost in a dark wood , Nov 22, 2020 6:59 AM

I remember long ago when this used to be the standard way of doing interviews; i.e. calmly asking intelligent questions with the intention of eliciting information and clarification, and allowing the person the opportunity to give a proper answer.
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Sidney Powell: 'Biblical' Lawsuit Coming, Accuses Georgia. Gov. Kemp of Deal With Dominion
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/sidney-powell-campaign-lawyer-dominion/2020/11/21/id/998181/
By Eric Mack – Sat, 21 Nov 2020
Levying explosive claims of widespread voter fraud specifically tied to Dominion Voting Systems and potentially a pay-for-play scheme with GOP Gov. Brian Kemp, Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell on Newsmax TV vowed to deliver a "biblical" voter fraud case this week.
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Sidney Powell: It will be BIBLICAL
Newsmax TV
Nov 22, 2020
Frontline member of the Trump legal team Sidney Powell comments exclusively on the claims that are going to be made in the legal battle to come over the presidential election results. – with political analyst Mark Halperin and Newsmax TV's Rob Schmitt

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Y68pEknYyCM?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en-US&autohide=2&wmode=transparent

paul , Nov 22, 2020 4:14 AM

None of this should be taken too seriously.
As Carleton-Browne of the Foreign Office would say, the situation is hopeless but not serious.
As the US teeters on the brink of complete financial bankruptcy and general institutional dissolution, our Exceptional Friends are kind enough to provide us with a final Grand Spectacular Election Extravaganza, no effort or expense spared, starring none other than the Great-Showman-In-Chief himself, Trumpus Magnus. Like one of his late great beauty pageants, unfortunately minus the bimbos. Instead, we have a star studded supporting cast of billionaires, close relatives, superannuated generals, fraudsters, grifters, chancers, conmen, halfwits, religious nutjobs, certifiable lunatics & rabid warmongers.
Pitted against him are an equally colourful and motley crew, fronted by a gerontocracy worthy of the late unlamented Soviet Union in its final death throes.
Trumpus Magnus himself, at 73, appears a scandalously callow youth beside Pelosi, 80, at the helm of the legislature, Bernie, supposedly the Great "Left" Hope at 79, and Creepy Joe, who at 77 is slated to become the new Commander-In-Chief, or Vice President, or Senator, or Something Or Other, provided he can remember his own name and which country he's living in at the time.
So just break out the popcorn and watch the whole tawdry, degrading spectacle. It's the Greatest Show In Town, and it's all completely free.
They charge fifteen quid now to get in the local cinema, though admittedly that does include the popcorn.

Watt , Nov 22, 2020 5:43 PM Reply to paul

An enjoyable read, in spite of the unprepossessing content. Satire is truly a gift.

Schmitz Katze , Nov 22, 2020 2:26 AM

President Dwight D. Eisenhower's farewell address, known for its warnings about the growing power of the "military-industrial complex

Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance

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John Ervin , Nov 22, 2020 5:15 AM Reply to Schmitz Katze

It was so awfully cute of Ike to mildly fulminate to us so, well, almost "democratically", in his farewell speech to the nation, and so soon after he had just woken up from a Rip van Winkel-esque nap of 8 years, next the Oval Office.

It was almost as if he cared. He had shortly before this swan song told his security honchos, "I have nothing to leave the next President but a legacy of ashes" -- a phrase which became the title of a condemnatory tome on the CIA by Tim Weiner, who had previously received a Pulitzer for his first book on that murky topic.

"A LEGACY OF ASHES". That gray pile accrued while Eisenhower was working out the geriatric kinks of his golf swing, a passetemps made as familiar to us in our own times by another Republican President.

During his two terms, the actual bona fide Nazi Gestapo had completely embedded itself in Langley, with Josef Mengele (according to Fred Burks of wanttoknow.info, among others) training our agents on site, thanks to favoring treatment by Allen Dulles and Hitler's top Nazi spy, General Reinhard Gehlen, the two leading that key Agency all on Ike's dubious "watch".

And the rest is history, mystery, and much misery.

Ours, and above all, the rest of the world's .

You can trace the origins of our current Covid pickle directly to that.

Thanks Ike! For the warning Farewell.

Hope you didn't let the door hit you on the way out.

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martin , Nov 22, 2020 6:47 AM Reply to John Ervin

May I add a reference to Eisenhower's death camps..

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John Ervin , Nov 22, 2020 7:31 AM Reply to martin

Yes, I've seen some on that. I just am not very impressed with Eisenhower, since many really sinister things rolled into our government and country, on his "watch". And it seemed like he didn't do much about it.

After JFK's execution, I heard an interview with "Jackie" not long ago, it happened back in those days:

REPORTER: So what DID your husband think of Eisenhower?

JACQUELINE: "Not much."

Frankly, it seems like in the court of (real) History, he would need a real good lawyer.

Robert MacNamara said in the great film by Erroll Morris' "The Fog of War" that if we had been the conquered, there would have been some real Nuremberg-esque war tribunals trying our leaders and hanging U.S. for war crimes.

That "confession" is in the film, from the lips of a man who bombed the hell out of much of Asia in his stint under Curtis LeMay, and his dubious commands.

And LeMay remained "gungho" after WW II.

I mean, any way you slice it, there is too much of that, from all of them.

It's just not right.

But, hey, Ike warned us about the MIC on his way out of the Big Round Room.

Why are we not impressed?

kevin , Nov 22, 2020 5:51 PM Reply to John Ervin

Eisenhower was a servant of the Wall Street/Eastern Establishment (now globalist) ruling class based in and around the Council on Foreign Relations and the CIA at its highest levels. Allen Dulles, CIA director under Eisenhower and CFR president in the late 1940s, was its embodiment. Eisenhower was their president and his warning about the military-industrial complex probably had more to do with the potential threat it posed as a rival to Wall Street interests.

Researcher , Nov 22, 2020 7:07 PM Reply to John Ervin

Yes. Too little, too late. It's like JFK's speech to the newspaper men in NYC. He was talking about future censorship of the press and a heating up of the Cold War. If he'd actually intended to expose Secret Societies and the banking cabal with their eugenics agenda, to the public he could have done it any time.

Maybe his only real mistake or perhaps secret purpose was signing Executive Order 11110 which gave the US the ability to issue its own notes against US silver reserves without going through the Fed.

The US silver reserves were probably stolen by the Fed from the Treasury after JFK's death. Going off the gold standard by Nixon further exacerbated the debt and inflation.

Certainly the manipulation of the silver market by JP Morgan and others and the inability of Congress or an independent body or any agency to audit the Fed, or Fort Knox is connected to aspects of that Act, Executive Order 11110.

Sometimes I wonder if the US really had a president with any integrity since Andrew Jackson left office.

[Nov 26, 2020] Trump Legal Team And PA Republican Legislators Election Hearing At Gettysburg

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" Fascinating testimony. Amazingly straightforward and easy to follow. Not surprised at any information given, only sadly disappointed that our country allowed itself to get to this point by not standing firm and stopping the deceit for several generations. Thank you for finally standing up and addressing the disgrace."
"It's in everyone's interest to have a full vetting of election irregularities and fraud," Giuliani said in a statement Tuesday. "And the only way to do this is with public hearings, complete with witnesses, videos, pictures and other evidence of illegalities from the November 3rd election."
"There were serious irregularities, we have proof of fraud in a number of states, and it is important for all Americans to have faith in our electoral process," Trump campaign senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis said in a statement. "All we have wanted from the outset is to count every legal vote and discount every illegal vote."
Nov 26, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

WHO: Senate Majority Policy Committee Chair David Argall (R-Berks/Schuylkill); Senate Majority Leader-Elect Kim Ward (R-39); State Rep. Dan Moul (R-91); State Rep. Rob Kauffman (R-89); and State Rep Paul Schemel (R-90); among other lawmakers will join Senator Mastriano in this historic hearing.

Mastriano is clear what is at risk.

"Elections are a fundamental principle of our democracy – unfortunately, Pennsylvanians have lost faith in the electoral system," said Mastriano, who recently called for the resignation of State Department Secretary Kathy Boockvar for negligence and incompetence. "It is unacceptable."

"Over the past few weeks, I have heard from thousands of Pennsylvanians regarding issues experienced at the polls, irregularities with the mail-in voting system and concerns whether their vote was counted," said Mastriano. "We need to correct these issues to restore faith in our republic."

WHERE: Wyndham Gettysburg, 95 Presidential Circle, Gettysburg, PA 17325.

The hearing will be streamed live on policy.pasenategop.com.

WHEN: Wednesday, November 25th at 12:30 pm.

"We want assurance that the issues encountered during this past election don't happen again," said Chairman Argall. "Senator Mastriano requested this meeting because Pennsylvanians deserve a fair election."

[Nov 26, 2020] Propaganda, Election Fraud and the Death of Journalism

Nov 23, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com
(Alyssa Pointer/Atlanta Journal-Constitution via AP)

Easy question: Is it illegal to steal an election or not?

You would have to assume that it is no big deal based on the response to claims of widespread fraud in the contest between President Trump and Joe Biden. Big Media says the evidence just doesn't exist, and most Americans seem to be lost in a blue haze of blind acceptance that whatever they are told by the talking heads on TV must be true.

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This kind of unthinking obedience to authority is a frightening harbinger of an America that is no longer a nation of laws, but rather a nation of edicts. You can already see that unfolding in the sheep-like acceptance of COVID-19 restrictions that blatantly ignore the Constitution. But if you dare do your own independent assessment of facts -- whether regarding the efficacy of mask use in preventing spread of coronavirus or regarding the security of electronic voting -- you will quickly come to a different conclusion than that which is approved by Big Tech, Big Media and Big Money.

Unfortunately, most people don't take the time to do their own research. They simply believe whatever is told to them. For those in thrall to the establishment media, that means they believe that Trump's allegations of election fraud are "baseless." Remember, the media made that declaration within hours of the election, long before any evidence had been presented in a court of law and before analysis had begun on the raw vote totals. Once that narrative was established, it didn't matter how many affidavits were presented, how many witnesses came forward, or how much analysis suggested that the vote count may have been manipulated. The jury of the American people had already been tainted by Big Media to believe the narrative that Trump is a sore loser.

Don't forget, the mainstream media -- in the interests of public enlightenment (now known as wokeness) -- have spent the past four years reporting as fact that the duly elected president of the United States is a liar, a tax cheat, a Russian puppet, and a racist. In other words, he is a con man who never should have been anywhere near the Oval Office in the first place. So why would anyone now believe his claims that Democrats used phony mail ballots, vote-counting software and foreign manipulation to steal the election? Most of the media is pretending that there is not even a real story to report in what, if true, would be one of the gravest constitutional crises in the history of our republic.

As Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said in his press conference Thursday, "The coverage of this has been almost as dishonest as the scheme itself. The American people are entitled to know this," he warned the press. "You don't have a right to keep it from them. You don't have a right to lie about it."

But, the newsrooms at CNN and MSNBC are keeping it from the public. They refused to even carry Giuliani's press conference laying out the evidence of election fraud. As for Fox News, they covered it, and then put a reporter on the air to say the claims were "simply not true" or "baseless." Clearly, we are not going to get the truth from the media. Has there been even one reporter for a mainstream outlet such as the Washington Post asking questions about the vulnerability of electronic voting systems to hacking or manipulation? Is any news organization demanding that the Justice Department or FBI get to the bottom of the story?

The loss of a free and neutral press means that democracy cannot work even if its elections were completely above board. The capacity of the people to self-govern is dependent on their access to true and accurate information. Sadly, the opposite principle applies as well. When journalism abandons objectivity in favor of an agenda, then the people are in the position of cattle being led to slaughter.

Thomas Jefferson described the abuses of a free press in 1814 in a letter to his friend Walter Jones:

"I deplore the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed and the malignity, the vulgarity and the mendacious spirit of those who write for them These ordures are rapidly depraving the public taste and lessening its relish for sound food. As vehicles of information and a curb on our functionaries, they have rendered themselves useless by forfeiting all title to belief This has, in a great degree, been produced by the violence and malignity of party spirit."

Ouch! Take that, New York Times! Take that, CNN!

Of course, it is just such a malign "party spirit" that informs almost all mainstream journalism in the Age of Trump -- a spirit that is visible in the hostility towards Trump himself, but also in the accommodation towards Democrats such as Joe Biden. Last Monday's Biden press conference was a stunning abdication of responsibility by the media for its much-vaunted role of "speaking truth to power" -- or at least asking tough questions.

Three of the first four queries were merely anti-Trump questions asked in a new way. Instead of asking Trump "How do you justify your unprecedented attempt to obstruct and delay a smooth transfer of power?" the reporters merely asked Biden what he thought about Trump's "unprecedented attempt" blah blah blah. Then the next three questions were about COVID, which after six months of campaigning, even Sleepy Joe Biden could answer with his eyes closed.

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Isn't the media going to hold Biden accountable just like they claimed to hold Trump accountable? Why not ask about the curious patterns of vote counting in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Georgia that make millions of people think Biden tried to steal the election? Shouldn't he be asked to support a full investigation to prove his victory was legitimate? How about a question about whether Hunter Biden will come out of hiding now that the election is over? How about asking the "president-in-waiting" to condemn the BLM and antifa violence that sent several innocent Trump supporters to the hospital two weeks ago?

How about our celebrity journalists celebrate their own crucial role as defenders of democracy? If they don't want to "render themselves useless," they need to swear allegiance to facts, wherever they lead, and not to one party. Or as Sen. John Kennedy of Louisiana put it more indelicately, "They have to be equal opportunity assholes."

But they aren't -- and sooner or later the American people will get tired of being manipulated. Journalism is supposed to give an honest account of the facts so that people can make up their own minds what they believe to be true. Propaganda, on the other hand, is a dishonest attempt to persuade people not to examine the facts for themselves. Journalism starts with facts and allows people to reach their own conclusion. Propaganda starts with a conclusion and manipulates people into accepting it as fact. You can decide for yourself whether what we have today is journalism or propaganda.

But the bottom line is this: Whether or not Donald Trump can prove his case in court should be irrelevant to the job of the press. What honest reporters ought to recognize is the significance of the allegation itself, the historical nature of the crime being alleged, and the importance to the future of our republic that the case must be heard.

Too bad there are so few honest reporters left.

Frank Miele, the retired editor of the Daily Inter Lake in Kalispell Mont., is a columnist for RealClearPolitics. His new book "How We Got Here: The Left's Assault on the Constitution" is available from his Amazon author page . Visit him at HeartlandDiaryUSA.com to read his daily commentary or follow him on Facebook @HeartlandDiaryUSA or on Twitter or Parler @HeartlandDiary.

steve399 2 days ago

Journalism has gone from news to confirmation bias. Thats the problem and not part of any solution.

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Uncle+Sam 2 days ago

Americans say there are greater conflicts between Democrats and Republicans than exist between other groups. If one steps back and looks at such partisan polarization dispassionately it becomes clear that by making the conscious decision to suspend judgment and truly listen to the "other side" reconciliation is possible. It seems if peace can break out in the Middle East certainly we can achieve it here at home. :-o

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jamessamuelwalsh 2 days ago

Frank is 100% correct. The media wants us to believe the people committing the fraud are credible when they deny the fraud. Let's get to the bottom of it. There is far more evidence of voter fraud than there was Russian collusion, but we still spent 3 years "investigating" Russian collusion.

Time to do the same. Appoint a special prosecutor. Spend 2 years and $60M million. Interview hundreds of Democrats, and file unrelated charges when applicable. Until we do the investigation, Biden is and forever will be a #FakePresident.

cubicle-monkey 2 days ago

Remember the old nugget that Washington Post film critic Pauline Kael allegedly said something to the effect of, "How did Nixon win [in a landslide]? I don't know anyone who voted for him." Well, now the right in their own bubble is doing the same thing, but unlike Kael, they conclude that if Trump didn't win, it must have been fraud. Why? They don't know anyone who voted for Biden! Or Trump's rallies were so big!

Ruckus 2 days ago

Biden received more than 15 million more votes than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012. Yet, Biden lost in almost every bellwether county across the country. No presidential candidate has been capable of such electoral jujitsu until now.

Ruckus 2 days ago

Trump's victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin were on target until, in the middle of the night, counting was arbitrarily halted. Miraculously, several hundred thousand votes – all for Biden – were mysteriously 'found'; Trump's real leads subsequently vanished.

Paul in Colorado 2 days ago

In the late 1500s the printing press destroyed the monopoly on information that the Roman Catholic church had held for over a thousand years, and its appalling corruption was exposed. A hundred years of religious war followed as the church tried to suppress the Reformation, but free minds prevailed and the Enlightenment followed in the 1700s. Now the Internet has destroyed the American Ruling Class's monopoly on information, and its appalling corruption is being exposed. Now they too are trying suppress the new information channels, but their violent reaction to independent thought will also fail. They do not understand or respect the American character, and the marionettes they put up as opinion leaders have no credibility. The power centers of their thought-police - the press, the TV networks, academia, Hollywood, social media, on-demand riots, etc. - are now greeted with disgust and derision, and their business models are collapsing. The peasant rebellion that put Trump in the White House is real, the hundreds of thousands of Americans who stood in line for hours to attend his rallies are real, and the continual erosion of Ruling Class power in America is real. As is their panic, so amply displayed in this election.

The times, they are a-changing, and a new Enlightenment is coming into view. One without the stifling dead hand of an ossified Ruling Class desperately clinging to its perch.

Ruckus 2 days ago

Donald Trump was pretty much the only incumbent president in U.S. history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives. It's a miracle!

Notmisguided 1 day ago

Its certainly pretty interesting that all but one of what have been the "bellwether" counties since 2000 went for Trump. There was certainly fraud in this election but questionable as to the extent of it.

Ruckus 2 days ago

In a larger list of 58 bellwether counties that have correctly picked the president since 2000, Trump won 51 of them by an average of 15 points, while the other seven went to Biden by around four points. Bellwether counties overwhelmingly chose President Trump, but Biden found a path to victory anyway.

JZ North AZ 2 days ago

Great in dept look at journalistic fraud and its impact on of molding the opinion and will of the unthinking American public. Unfortunately, as a society we must have not reached rock bottom, yet. Otherwise, the people who need to read this would be and the people who recognize it as happening and speaking up to defend against it, would be thanked. Thank you!

Uncle+Sam 2 days ago

While it may seem easy to dismiss such attempts to expose alleged election fraud, following years of a coordinated effort to oust a duly elected president it doesn't seem so far-fetched. :-o

Rob Sjoberg 1 day ago We are to believe that Joe Biden went from 4th in the Iowa caucus to 5th in the New Hampshire Primary to 1st in the South Carolina Primary, after which he proceeded to run the board? Then practically without campaigning went on to win the Presidency, despite the fact his events had trouble drawing 50 people? A telling little detail is that the debates shown on Biden's YouTube channel would consistently have many more down votes than up votes, until late at night when suddenly about 30% of the downvotes would be gone, and just like that old Joe would be the winner! Come on, man!

DisgustedwithElitismNC 2 days ago

'Mika Brzezinski's exact words in reference to Donald Trump's calling out of the media for the failure to accurately report factual information were:

" that he can control, uh, exactly what people think, and that is, that is our job."'

from 'Is it true that MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski stated, "Our job is to control exactly what people think"?' (www. quora. com/ Is-it-true-that-MSNBC-host-Mika-Brzezinski-stated-Our-job-is-to-control-exactly-what-people-think)

So much for getting the fact

Ruckus 2 days ago

Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia." Robert Barnes, the foremost election analyst, observes in these "big cities in swing states run by Democrats the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters."

[Nov 25, 2020] MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT finds there is SUBSTANTIATED EVIDENCE of troubling and serious allegations of VOTER FRAUD AND IRREGULA

Nov 25, 2020 | thedonald.win

Michigan Supreme Court says they find the evidence of voter fraud to be SERIOUS, TROUBLING, and SUBSTANTIATED! Nothing said is to diminish the troubling and serious allegations of fraud and irregularities asserted by the affiants offered by plaintiffs, among whom is Ruth Johnson, Michigan's immediate past Secretary of State, who testified that, given the "very concerning" "allegations and issues raised by Plaintiffs," she "believe[s] that it would be proper for an independent audit to be conducted as soon as possible to ensure the accuracy and integrity of th[e] election." Plaintiffs' affidavits present evidence to substantiate their allegations, which include claims of ballots being counted from voters whose names are not contained in the appropriate poll books, instructions being given to

disobey election laws and regulations, the questionable appearance of unsecured batches of absentee ballots after the deadline for receiving ballots, discriminatory conduct during the counting and observation process, and other violations of the law. Plaintiffs, in my judgment, have raised important constitutional issues regarding the precise scope of Const 1963, art 2, §4(l)(h) -- a provision of striking breadth added to our Michigan Constitution just two years ago through the exercise of direct democracy and the constitutional initiative process -- and its interplay with MCL 168.31a and other election

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[Nov 25, 2020] What We Know About Sidney Powell by Jeremy W. Peters

Nov 25, 2020 | www.nytimes.com

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Ms. Powell did not have much of a reputation in conservative legal circles until last year when she took on the case of Michael T. Flynn, Mr. Trump's first national security adviser, who had pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. but later sought to withdraw his plea. The case became something of a cause célèbre among many Trump loyalists, who have long insisted that the president and his allies were the target of nefarious "deep state" law enforcement and intelligence officials.

Ms. Powell, a native North Carolinian who began her legal career as an assistant federal prosecutor in Texas, certainly believed that. And through her aggressive defense of Mr. Flynn -- she often used incendiary rhetoric, accusing the F.B.I. of committing "atrocities" against her client -- she became an admired figure on the right and a frequent guest on conservative radio and television programs.

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In a statement to The New York Times earlier this year, Ms. Powell said she had long considered "prosecutorial misconduct and overreach" a problem. Conspiracies within the American government have been a preoccupation of hers for some time: In 2014 she self-published a book that purports to be a seminal work in "exposing 'the Deep State.'"

The book arose from her work in private practice, where she spent years representing defendants in the Enron financial scandal, including the accounting firm Arthur Andersen and James A. Brown, a former executive at Merrill Lynch. During that time she began to impugn the motives of one of the federal prosecutors on the case, Andrew Weissmann, who went on to be a member of the special counsel team under Robert S. Mueller III, who led the investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.

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In an interview last week on the top-rated "Rush Limbaugh Show" -- in which she spoke for nearly 20 minutes and faced no skepticism from the guest host, Mark Steyn -- Ms. Powell claimed that the voting machines in question had been designed to rig elections for the former ruler of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, who died in 2013. They were "so hackable a 15-year-old could do it," she said. And she cited unnamed "math experts" she had supposedly consulted who told her how an algorithm added votes for President Trump to Joseph R. Biden Jr.'s totals.

In an interview the day before on Fox Business, Ms. Powell also said the conspiracy involved "dead people" who voted "in massive numbers" -- again offering no proof -- and described how fraudulent paper ballots were also part of the scheme.

Speaking early last week to the right-wing radio host Mark Levin, who has the fourth-largest audience in talk radio, Ms. Powell said she had obtained an affidavit from someone purportedly present when the scheme was hatched by pro-Chávez forces in Venezuela to rig his elections.

Because of her involvement in the Flynn case, the pro-Trump media often presented her as an expert with unimpeachable credentials.

"Sidney Powell is no joke," declared one Breitbart article published last week, which mentioned her early career as a federal prosecutor and her work for Mr. Flynn. Mr. Limbaugh, too, told his audience last week that he seriously doubts she would be putting her credibility on the line if she hadn't uncovered serious wrongdoing.

Other Trump allies were less convinced that her claims should be taken seriously. Tucker Carlson of Fox News said last week that when he pressed Ms. Powell, she failed to produce any evidence to support the elaborate conspiracy she purported to have uncovered. His dissent was not appreciated by the president's defenders, or by Ms. Powell, who said Mr. Carlson had been "very insulting, demanding and rude" to her.

Despite initial praise from the president, who announced less than two weeks ago that she had been added to his team of "wonderful lawyers," it was never clear during her brief time with the campaign what her job was supposed to be. Her efforts on behalf of the Trump campaign appeared to be largely limited to public relations She has defended the president and attacked the integrity of the vote solely on Twitter, on television and at news conferences, acting more as a publicity agent than a lawyer.

She has said she plans to file a suit in Georgia but hasn't yet. It is unclear whether that work will continue now that the Trump campaign has cut her loose.

Jeremy W. Peters covers national politics. His other assignments in his decade at The Times have included covering the financial markets, the media, New York politics and two presidential campaigns. He is also an MSNBC contributor.

[Nov 25, 2020] In Nevada: a Judge has allowed NV Republicans to present findings of widespread voter fraud in a Dec. 3rd hearing

Nov 25, 2020 | twitter.com

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BIG news in Nevada: a Judge has allowed NV Republicans to present findings of widespread voter fraud in a Dec. 3rd hearing. Americans will now hear evidence from those who saw firsthand what happened -- a critical step for transparency and remedying illegal ballots. Stay tuned.

[Nov 25, 2020] Listen VERY closely to what this witness in PA says happened with roughly 600K votes during curious "spikes" in the vote count... 570K to Biden... just 3,200 to Trump

Nov 25, 2020 | twitter.com



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[Nov 25, 2020] Yes, Election Fraud is Real. And its a Longstanding Tradition on Both Sides of the Aisle

Nov 25, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com


merican democracy is in limbo after the long-anticipated, contested election has finally come to pass. More than a week removed from November 3, Democrats and Republicans peddle their own version of events as a corporate media blitzkrieg tries to manufacture consent for Joe Biden as president-elect in true Guaidó style. Trump plays the villain, ensconced in the Oval Office while his cabinet officials pitch weak legal challenges that fail to address substantive issues of electoral fraud and serve to simply prolong the stalemate and build up the tension for the grand finale.

Despite evidence of fatal vulnerabilities underlying the electronic voting infrastructure of the United States that leave the systems at the very heart of the democratic process open to election rigging on a massive scale, much of the American public is unaware of the extent of the problem and how easily election results can be manipulated without leaving a trace.

The bumbling incompetence of the Trump administration provides cover for the machinations of the U.S. establishment, which more nuanced independent coverage has revealed in great detail. Taking the deliberate preparations made for this particular eventuality into consideration, complete with table-top exercises and the creation of new federal agencies and programs since the start of the 2016 presidential race, it is clear that the 2020 Election was targeted as an opportunity to fundamentally transform the American political juggernaut, in tandem with the ongoing worldwide economic reset.

A statement released last Thursday by the director of one of the newest agencies, in charge of overseeing cybersecurity infrastructure in the United States, claimed that there was "no evidence [ ] any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised." Chris Krebs, the head of the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), directly contradicted the Trump-appointed chairman of the Federal Election Commission (FEC), who last week told the conservative outlet Newsmax that voter fraud was definitely taking place.

Cyberbullies

Part of the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency's mission centers on assuring compliance with DHS dictates surrounding election security protocols. The standalone federal agency with oversight from the Department of Homeland Security was formed two years after an embarrassing incident involving DHS occurred during the 2016 general election, when Georgia's then secretary of state,­ – now governor – Brian Kemp, announced that cyberattacks on its voting systems had been traced to the federal law enforcement agency.

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In 2020 with CISA firmly in place, DHS' cybersecurity division implemented a " 24/7 war room " to ostensibly guard against election hacking. CISA's Krebs, a former cybersecurity policy director at Microsoft, led the effort to "monitor a network of every state's election system simultaneously until every vote is counted," according to News Nation , which was allowed to bring a camera crew into the operation in Fort Meade , Maryland.

In the lead up to the 2020 election, warnings about Russian and Iranian cyberwarriors running roughshod over the electoral contest were everywhere in U.S. media. Dire warnings of an existential threat to democracy by foreign actors that never materialized were leveraged to implement new security measures in partnership with the private sector. Krebs floated the excuse for a conspicuously absent horde of Eurasian hackers, that America's enemies chose to "sit out this election" in a recent New York Times article .

The fact is that neither Russia nor Iran have anywhere near the level of access to America's election system as the handful of private companies who are part of an electronic voting machine cartel, which currently controls over 92% of the elections market in the United States.

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In a prolific time for draconian government overreach, one of the lesser-known pieces of legislation proposed by the Bush administration was the Help America Vote Act ( HAVA ), passed by a Republican-controlled House and a unanimous vote by a Democrat-led Senate in December 2001. The bill was signed into law 11 months later and "greatly accelerated the full computerization of U.S. elections," according to Jonathan Simon, an election integrity advocate and author of "Code Red, Computerized Election Theft and The New American Century," in an interview with MintPress .

Simon describes the legislation's carrot-and-stick approach to goad states into adopting technologies like touchscreen voting systems known as DREs, which were later replaced with barcode systems or BMDs, which were "entirely lacking in cyber-security provisions to protect the increasingly concealed process it promoted." Among the bill's authors is none other than the current Senate leader and Republican kingmaker, Mitch McConnell, who has defended Trump's right to challenge the election results without committing to a particular outcome.

"If, as was claimed," Simon continues, "HAVA would make voting easier and thus increase turnout, as we can see clearly today, that was decidedly not a GOP goal, certainly not of a tactician like McConnell." The partisan motivations Simon ascribes to HAVA are clear enough, and, as he points out, should have been clear to Democrats as well. But, the argument that the American liberal establishment had no inkling of the ramifications fails to account for the Democrats' own forays into the closely held universe of electronic voting systems.

Electronic Voting

Voting machines fill the floor for early voting at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta, Oct. 12, 2020. Brynn Anderson | AP

A week ago, FOX Anchor Maria Bartiromo casually let slip on air that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff, Sidney Powell, had become a lobbyist for Dominion Voting Systems – one of a handful of companies that maintain a close-knit cartel of electronic voting systems, which together control 92% of the election marketplace. Nevertheless, Dominion's market share is dwarfed by ES&S; the largest election voting machine company in the United States and whose "subcontractors that [do] the actual programming, maintenance, and distribution" are controlled by GOP political allies, according to Simon.

The wrangling these firms engage in to steal electoral markets from each other, and the inseparable political problems such dynamics can cause, was on full display in Louisiana just before the 2018 midterm elections when its Democrat governor, John Bel Edwards, canceled a $95 million dollar contract that had been awarded to Dominion after competitor ES&S filed a complaint about the contracting process. Edwards was accused by his Republican secretary of state of siding "with his political buddies over election security," which contradicts the prevailing notions of a pure partisan split along this issue.

Fatal Vulnerabilities

Experts on both sides of the political divide concede that both voter fraud and election fraud occur with considerable frequency since the advent of electronic voting machines. In addition to Dominion and ES&S, only five other companies dominate this space: Tenex, SGO/Smartmatic, Hart InterCivic, Demtech, and Premier (formerly Diebold).

Virtually all have been accused of vote count manipulation or other irregularities associated with their systems. Hart, for instance, was accused of vote flipping (the practice of switching the votes from one candidate to their opponent) in Texas. Dominion also ran into issues in the Lone Star state when its systems failed certification over accessibility problems.

"Much of the equipment being used to record and count votes," explains Jonathan Simon, "is either modem-equipped, which leaves it highly vulnerable to remote interference, or programmed with the use of other computers than are internet-connected, allowing the alteration of memory cards and code running in either precinct-level machines (like BMDs, DREs, or Optical Scanners) or central tabulators."

Examples of these dangerous weaknesses were explored in a recent video published by a self-styled national security professional, L. Todd Wood , where conservative elections security expert, Russ Ramsland, breaks down his findings from a forensic analysis of a 1000+ page voter log taken out of Dallas County's central tabulation center in the aftermath of the 2018 midterm elections.

https://cdn.iframe.ly/M7DMJcB?v=1&app=1

Ramsland identified instances of votes being replaced in 96 precincts, an inordinate number of database "updates" and other serious irregularities that point to vote-count manipulation and amount to election fraud. His most explosive allegation centered around claims of real-time vote-swapping in the 2019 gubernatorial election in Kentucky, where Ramsland asserts that thousands of votes originally given for the Republican candidate were swapped live on a CNN broadcast and added to the tally of the Democratic candidate, Andy Beshear, who would end up winning the election.

Ramsland also alleged that the election data of that race was being stored in a server in Frankfurt, Germany before being cycled through the central tabulation database, which syncs automatically with the numbers shown to television viewers. This server has been pounced on by Trump supporters in recent days and repeated by Rudy Giuliani in his podcast on Friday when he also purported to have direct evidence of election fraud.

While it is practically impossible for the layman to unravel the complexities underlying the encryption and cloud technologies underlying the present-day election system in the United States, few can doubt that moving towards a digital voting system removes whatever last vestiges of control the regular American citizen had in a once participatory exercise of democracy.

Asked if democracy can even exist under such conditions, Simon refers to a prediction he made in "CODE RED," in which he augurs "an inexorable progression to where we are now: public trust eroded, the losers making wild allegations, no one able to prove anything, [and] everyone kind of waking up to the realization that our concealed computerized vote-counting process does not yield evidence-based results."

Spook Charade

Giuliani's promises of whistleblowers coming forward to save the day for the MAGA crowd and call the election off aren't likely to produce anything of consequence as this charade only serves to further pave the way for the ruling classes, who are consolidating their grip on power and wealth at mind-boggling speeds thanks to the peculiar advantages bestowed upon them by the pandemic protocols. Real evidence of election fakery is too widespread to confront as part of a national discussion, as that would threaten the position of the politicians who depend on a rigged system and the powerful interests that control them.

With the extremes of the American political spectrum lighting up in deep reds and blues, whatever emerges out of the ashes won't resemble much that came before it, and regardless of the election results, America's inexorable march towards techno-fascism is moving right along.


Watch | America's Election Debacle Highlights Anti-Democratic Hijinks of Both Parties

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Actual voter and election fraud takes place in every national American election and is just as prevalent in state and municipal elections, as well. From vote splitting to voter suppression tactics to direct manipulation of election results, both political parties have usurped the electoral processes to lie and cheat their way into power more than once.

But with the advent of digital voting systems, even the scandals we always seem to hear about far too late will vanish from sight, as well. The most straightforward aspect of democracy – voting – is disappearing behind a curtain of ones and zeros that only technocratic lackeys will be able to pull back. Trump, who was plucked from the reality TV screen like Jeff Daniels in "The Purple Rose of Cairo" and inserted into the national contest for the highest office in the land, will do nothing to change that.

Publically available FBI documents show the sitting president has been an FBI informant since the early eighties and his rise to the highest office in the land was not the case of a brash, independent billionaire who decided to run for president to "Make America Great Again." After all, Donald Trump's long-standing ties with the very "deep state" many of his staunchest supporters are convinced he is dismantling, actually reveals a factional war among the ruling class behind the scenes.

With a president who is as deep state as it gets, if there's something we can take away from the last four years and these last few days since the election, it's that the American establishment's over-the-top partisanship has been a ruse undertaken to hide the fact that they are united in waging a class war like never before.

Feature photo | Graphic by Antonio Cabrera for MintPress News

Raul Diego is a MintPress News Staff Writer, independent photojournalist, researcher, writer and documentary filmmaker.

[Nov 25, 2020] Trump's Legal Battle for the Election is a Mess by John Jalsevac

This is highly relevant critique of Trump legal team. But what the author misses is the systematic campaign of promoting mail-in ballots and enabling ballot harvesting fraud, which is quite provable and which violated constitutions os several states in which it was practiced. For example in Georgia the agreement was reached between the Secretary of State and Tracy Abrams, but the secretary of State has no legal authority to change the state election laws, COVID or no COVID.
Is not interruption in vote counting qualify as brazen interference? It was never explained. Just swiped under the carpet. Does neoliberal Dems manipulations with mail-in ballots quality as "brazen interference" ? i would say yes, it does, This is replica of Pendergast Political Machine methods. Please note that I am not a Trump supporter. I actually consider both Trump and Biden to be very similar abominations.
Nov 25, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

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There is a lot of bad reporting in the media, but a lot of the blame rests on Trump, his legal team and the magnitude, complexity and implausibility of their claims

Trump's lawyers spent a lot of time at the podium lecturing the media on their "fake" reporting on the fraud claims. No doubt, after four years of mainstream media malpractice, they have reason for making this claim.

However, the moralistic lecturing was myopic and counterproductive, simply because even honest journalists (if there are any left) have been left with their heads spinning by the quantity and magnitude of the claims the Trump administration is putting out there right now.

Any honest person approaching the fraud claims without a pre-determined position on their validity (something that is, unfortunately, all too rare) has inevitably been left feeling overwhelmed and confused. There's just too much information. There are too many conflicting claims. There isn't enough time to adjudicate each one of them properly. Not only is some degree of media skepticism to be expected, it's actually the only responsible thing to do , given the complexity and magnitude of the fraud claims, and the stakes at play.

One of the central claims being made by Trump's legal team is that there exists a vast national and global conspiracy involving a network of shadowy electronic voting companies, communist regimes, foreign dictators, vote routing, switching and deleting involving complex algorithms, and the complicity of numerous Democratic governors and election officials. The evidence proffered so far to support this claim is a single affidavit by an unnamed Venezuelan official, and a number of non-specific allegations of data anomalies on election night.

Should we -- should the media -- simply assent to these claims, based solely upon the heat of Sidney Powell's rhetoric, and a single affidavit? How seriously should we even take them, given that the clock is ticking, and it is hard to imagine the Trump team actually proving these allegations by the safe harbor deadlines, whether they are true or not? How much effort should they expend chasing every new bone Sidney Powell and MAGA surrogates throw their way?

"Dianne Feinstein's husband! George Soros! Scytl! German servers! Raids by U.S. military! Spain! Hugo Chavez! Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff! Bill Gates! Cuba!" And so on and so forth.

It's exhausting just trying to keep up. However you look at it, much of it is extraordinarily confusing and, frankly, prima facie unbelievable. Of course, truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. Powell could be right. But how likely is it that all her increasingly wild allegations should come together just as she has laid them out? And how surprised should we be that people outside the MAGA camp are skeptical?

3) The whole thing feels like intellectual blackmail

Rudy Giuliani complained that his team is preparing and presenting cases that would normally take months, if not years to prepare and argue in normal circumstances. The media should give them time to make their case, and wait for the evidence, he said.

But who's fault is this? The Trump administration had four years to investigate Dominion, Smartmatic, and the dangers of electronic voting in general. They could have convened bipartisan committees to investigate voter fraud and the vulnerabilities of these voting machines.

In 2016, even after he won, Trump claimed that there were millions of fraudulent votes. If he really believed that, why didn't he do something meaningful about it while he was in office? Posting about it on Twitter doesn't count.

Sidney Powell has raised some good questions about electronic voting, if only that people will readily believe wild claims of fraud using it. These questions should be pursued, however, a few days ago, most of us had never even heard of Dominion, Smartmatic and Scytl, etc. Now we're being told that we must simply believe Powell's theory that these companies stole the election. Countless MAGA followers are posting that they are absolutely sure , without the slightest shadow of a doubt, that Dominion is behind the electoral theft. This feels mad.

"She's a competent lawyer!" her supporters say. "She's brilliant, she's honest! She's a patriot!" Maybe she is all of these things, but I'm not going to make a judgment about the outcome of a presidential election, or assent to a vast, complex, and highly implausible theory, based upon such thin gruel.

I need time. I need evidence. I need witnesses and counter-witnesses, examined and cross-examined. And being told by the MAGA crowd that I must assent to the theory, and to declare certainty that an election is invalid and that a coup has been perpetrated, without any of these, feels like intellectual blackmail.

The simple fact is, this process should not be happening under the gun like this. And that's on Trump, not the media.

4) Trump's legal team is making an amateur error in its approach to convincing the public

A thousand doubts does not constitute proof. Amateur debaters often fall into the trap of trying to win a debate by listing as many arguments as they can come up with. The mistake is in thinking that people are convinced by sheer quantities of evidence.

In reality, this almost always backfires. When you pound people over the head with argument after argument, they tend to become confused, bewildered, and, in the end, resentful. They resent not having the chance to really think through any one claim or argument in detail. Inevitably they begin to suspect that you're just trying to pull a fast one on them. Usually, they're right.

Trump and his legal team have fallen into this trap. At the press conference, they made repeated reference to the "hundreds" of sworn affidavits they have gathered, and the large number of their lawsuits. However, while hundreds of affidavits may be "evidence," in the legal sense of the term, they do not amount to proof.

A journalist for The Blaze reviewed the affidavits filed in Michigan and noted that many of them do not actually contain allegations of fraud. Instead, they often have to do with circumstantial things, such as how GOP challengers felt they were being "treated" by election officials, or described "fraudulent" behavior that could plausibly be interpreted as election officials following normal procedures that GOP challengers simply failed to understand.

Maybe some of the affidavits obtained by Trump's legal team contain slam-dunk proof of widespread fraud, but if they do, they are being lost in the noise.

Expert debaters know that the best way to win an argument is to select only the very best arguments, and to focus on those. If you go for quantity of evidence, inevitably you will include low quality evidence in your arguments. Your audience, which is not so much weighing each piece of evidence (an impossible task), as whether you are the sort of person who should be trusted, will often only remember your bad or weak arguments. The result is that they will write off everything else you say, as coming from a fundamentally unreliable source.

Trump and his surrogates have raised important questions about election integrity. Unfortunately, however, they have also repeated and promoted numerous false claims. Starting on election night, Trump began retweeting every claim of fraud that came across his Twitter feed, without any effort to fact check them. Many of them have subsequently been proven to be baseless.

It should come as no surprise that those who are not already on board the Trump Train are reacting to each new claim made by Trump with deep skepticism. The tragedy is that some of these claims may be valid. However, Trump's carelessness with the truth has fatally undercut his ability to lead a productive inquiry into voter fraud.

5) The fraud 'investigation' is being conducted ass-backwards

Trump, his legal team, and MAGA supporters all began with the conviction that the election was stolen. Then, they went in search of the proof.

People are skeptical of the effort, because that's the worst possible way to go about an investigation. The point of conducting an investigation is that you do not know the answer. You have a hypothesis or a suspicion, but not proof.

The Trump admin has, from the very beginning, claimed absolute certitude. Unfortunately, this isn't just bad epistemology, it's also insanely reckless, since, by definition, the very claim calls into doubt the very existence of democracy in America.

The word " coup " is being tossed around by MAGA followers carelessly. To say that's a loaded word is an understatement. But Trump and his team have left themselves no escape route. Even if incontrovertible evidence shows up at some point that the election was not stolen, a significant portion of the MAGA crowd will always believe that it was. At this point, there is nothing that could convince them otherwise.

Clearly, having a large body of citizens who believe that their government is illegitimate comes with potentially catastrophic unforeseen consequences. Nobody in the Trump administration or MAGA crowd seems to be giving any thought to this. Damn the torpedoes.

Given that it's Trump, we can expect him to throw out outrageous claims without making any real effort to determine if they're really true. However, it is our responsibility to prioritize truth over political expediency. Whatever our political affiliations, our duty is to investigate with indifference to the outcome, rather than seeking ways to substantiate our personal preferences. When faced with a choice between truth and winning, choose truth, every time.

6) The U.S. electoral system is a mess

Rudy Giuliani has at least this much right. The evidence Giuliani and his team have collected of conflicting processes and procedures around the country, the reports of irregularities, the evidence of actual fraud, and the ongoing efforts of Democrats to push less secure voting methods, may not be sufficient to actually overturn the result. But it absolutely is sufficient to suggest that the whole system is a mess, and vulnerable to exploitation.

While I believe the odds of Trump's fraud claims leading to the election being overturned are slim (although I am keeping an open mind on the question), we can at least hope that the whole sordid episode leads to some serious and much-needed bipartisan electoral reform, so that this does not happen again.

But in the end, that's only going to happen if cooler heads prevail, and reckless rhetoric only leads the country down a dark road of further division and strife.

John Jalsevac is currently working towards a PhD in philosophy. Prior to grad school, he worked for over a decade as a journalist, editor, and pro-life activist. His previous journalism and creative writing have appeared in The Public Discourse, Gilbert! Magazine, Dappled Thing, LifeSiteNews, and others.

muzan-e 4 days ago

The "conspiracy" gets more interesting the more deeply you look into it. For instance :

A government body exists that certifies voting machines and software as being 'okay to use' by individual states. There's a voluntary aspect to this, I believe -- states can choose to ignore the certification, yeah? But that doesn't matter, because the conspiracy is about Dominion , and Dominion was certified safe.

And this means that potentially complicit in the communist/globalist/Soros conspiracy to overthrow Trump are:

* Dominion, obvs.
* Those heads of state that okayed the use of Dominion machines (possibly)
* Those members of that government body most directly responsible for repeatedly certifying Dominion products
* The laboratory (Wyle, almost always) which repeatedly tested and cleared Dominion products

And if Wyle is itself on the take from communists/globalists/Soros, shouldn't we reasonably assume that every other voting product they've tested and cleared is therefore suspect?

And if that election commission is on the take from communists/globalists/Soros, mustn't we assume that they are only certifying voting products which serve their agenda?

And should we not question those most responsible for advancing the responsible parties in that commission to their present exalted state?

And what of Wyle's owners? (National Technical Systems) Should we not be particularly concerned by their voluntary acquisition of a laboratory group that exists as a tool of communists/globalists/Soros and sways elections on their behalf?

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kalendjay muzan-e 4 days ago

We need a public hearing all right. Like Watergate. Reminds me of when Sam Ervin said the telephone is the instrument of the devil. Wiser words I cannot think of.

John Woodard muzan-e 2 days ago

Every precinct in the United States uses a paper trail to ensure results can be audited. Every single vote cast involves a piece of paper with voter selections on it. In Georgia, where Dominion systems were used, the hand audit produced virtually identical results. That was a full hand recount. If the tally machines were switching votes, even a partial audit would pick up on that immediately.

Aurelian 4 days ago

Very good article here, and does a good job explaining why so many of us have trouble taking the claims of fraud seriously. Especially given Trump's long estrangement with truth generally, and his tendency to promote conspiracy theories, especially those which stand to benefit him if believed (see QAnon.)

The issues with electronic voting machines have been known for years, and I've seen the case made convincingly by commentators left, right, and center. I'm certainly glad to have cast a paper ballot in the last election, as everyone in my state does. Hopefully a silver lining from this mess will be the adoption of more robust paper balloting systems nationwide.

John Woodard Aurelian 2 days ago

Everybody casts a paper ballot in one way or another. In the few places that have voting machines (and I think it's very few honestly), a paper ballot is generated for auditing purposes.

Aurelian John Woodard 2 days ago • edited

Per my understanding, electronic voting machines are fairly widespread and fall into several categories. While some states do require a paper ballot to be generated for auditing purposes, there are some states like Kentucky and Indiana that have direct electronic voting without that capability. It is worth noting that none of those states are the swing states now in contention though, and that they are invariably red states.

See here: https://ballotpedia.org/Vot...

Martha Smith John Woodard 13 hours ago

My jurisdiction briefly switched to all-electronic machines, then quickly returned to the paper ballots read by optical scanning device . . . a much better system.

EyeProvidence 4 days ago • edited

"The mistake is in thinking that people are convinced by sheer quantities of evidence."
It works for the democrats, that all they ever do is 'level charges without evidence' in the MSM, and where Tucker was attempting to take Ms. Powell and it seems your on board like all the other conservatives tell us, we have to accept Biden, while we look into voting irregularities and fraud, sometime in the future [post GA's Jan 5th 2nd electronic vote steal].

EliteCommInc. EyeProvidence 4 days ago

I am going to eschew the question about Mr. Carlson and Ms Powell ----

But your observations about what works is accurate. It's a tactic that does work. It works for prosecutors How do you get 50 million people to believe the Russians actually invaded election boards and their processes across the country.

And yet, here we have vast irregularities in differing parts of the country. I think there is a case for fraud, but whether or not that is demonstrated, there is clearly a case for an audit on both machines and mail in ballots. and there absolutely needs to be an audit of votes to registered voters and no one needs to a HS diploma to comprehend that it's near impossible for all mail in ballots to be for x candidate and less than a 6th grade education to know that if you have 2000 registered voters or even a population of 2000 that the total number of votes is never going to exceed 100% -- if it does, there's serious problem.

disqus_5GSc0nKbtM EyeProvidence a day ago

What, no comment forthcoming from you about the terrible, awful, totally crooked election that happened in 2016, with millions and millions of fraudulent votes--- that Trump never looked into? In 4 years? At all?

Until he lost this election? He's been whining about how this election was going to be rigged, couldn't he have skipped a few golf games to actually look into it before it reared its ugly head and kicked him out of the White House? Sure, sure.

Scott 4 days ago • edited

No They haven't ! This thing is just to show President Trump won. And the election was fix. Everyone knows there not going to change anything.

The deep state was never going to let this to happen again. In 2016 they got caught with there thump up there ***

this time they were ready.

President Trump biggest mistake was his picks. AG Barr and Wray both big time never trampers. We the people sound nice but it's 🐂

LgVt 4 days ago

One thing that seems to have gotten lost in the fog--and that definitely got lost by this author--is that Giuliani and Powell are working on effectively two separate cases. Both are working for Trump, and both are working against Biden et al with regards to this election, but there is a clear line of demarcation between the two. Powell's focus is primarily, if not solely, on Dominion and the electronic case, while Giuliani's primary focus is on alleged physical fraud.

It makes no sense to assume that Powell's investigation should have begun four years ago, and then use that as a basis to sneer, as this author does, at Giuliani--whose investigation could not possibly have begun before November 4--for complaining about having to compress a type of investigation that typically takes years into less than a month.

I'm not sure what Powell has. Some of the anomalies she has obliquely referred to are already out there, if you look for them, and they are indeed suspicious (e.g. successive batches of votes, often 10 or more in a row, all with the exact same ratio of Biden-to-Trump votes--a statistical, if not literal, impossibility). However, it doesn't look like those would be enough to swing the election, because even in her telling, if the race had been closer, the Dominion irregularities would not have been discovered at all. The electronic interference was significant, but it wasn't what made the difference.

The meat of this case, with the potential to flip the results, lies with old fashioned physical fraud--ballot-manufacturing and box-stuffing--and Giuliani's mad scramble to find enough evidence in time.

My gut says he won't make it.

There are very strong indications that what Giuliani and the Trump team suspect did indeed happen. Most notable is the Democrats' brazen interference with GOP poll-watchers in multiple states; it is inexplicable if they did not have something to hide. But by the same token, that very interference successfully hid whatever it was that they did, and because of that, they have already gotten away with it--the evidence that Giuliani needs is gone forever.

The room is filled with smoke, but the fire has already been extinguished--and without the fire, Trump can't win.

Kent 4 days ago

"The mistake is in thinking that people are convinced by sheer quantities of evidence."

Evidence, philosophically, is something that is true. If I have an apple in my hand and I reach out and drop it, I can truthfully tell you that it will fall towards the ground. It is evidence of the existence of gravity. I can't see gravity. But I can see the apple fall (and anything else I drop). So can everyone in the world.

An affidavit is not evidence. It is a statement that someone is claiming is true. The statement may or may not be true. So a lot of affidavits is not a "sheer quantity of evidence". It's not evidence at all. Trump supporters need to understand that. And this is why Trump continues to have these court cases thrown out: he is not presenting any real evidence of fraud. Why? Because there isn't any.

REM Kent 4 days ago

You've got this wrong because your definition of evidence is wrong. An affidavit IS evidence.The truthfullness or importance of it is something decided in court. It is evidence just much as a fingerprint at a crime scene is evidence. The relevance of the fingerprint evidence still has to be determined in court.

eddie parolini 4 days ago

What's most obvious to me is that the lawyers making these far-fetched claims didn't themselves believe the claims. The effort was geared to flood the zone, so to speak, to create confusion and doubt resulting in state legislatures stepping in to settle electoral vote allocations.
Sowing doubt this way might be acceptable in criminal court, where defense lawyers are trying to establish reasonable doubt, however, here the objective should be to determine what happened, and not inventing things that might have happened.

Soros, Chavez, Spain and communists? I believe the term is "jumping the shark."

Adriana Pena eddie parolini 3 days ago

Those lawyers risk being charged with barratry. And it could cost them their licenses.

Miles R. 4 days ago

Mr. Jalsevac confuses two different facts under heading no. 6, "The U.S. electoral system is a mess." (1) The US electoral system is not a genuine system at all but an aggregate of electoral systems that vary by state and even by county. (2) Some of these systems are untrustworthy. It is clear that the second fact is cause for concern and in need of remedy. It is not so clear that the first one is. The diversity of electoral systems is a feature that contributes to the difficulty of manipulating national electoral results. It is the chief reason why the Trump team has had to resort to grotesque conspiracistic fantasies to maintain its claim that Trump is the legitimate winner.

Carlo Cristofori 4 days ago

"Durable, hand marked paper ballots must be established as the national standard for democratic elections in the United States. While using paper may sound antiquated, the consensus among election security experts is that nothing else provides the needed reliability,security, and transparency. Durable, voter marked paper ballots are appropriate technology for public elections....Hand Counted Paper Ballots are considered the 'Gold Standard' of democratic elections" ~ National Election Defense Coalition https://www.electiondefense...

Feral Finster Yourcenar 4 days ago • edited

Are there any electronic voting machines in Team D-controlled states? How did they get there? Did they sneak in across the border? Which political party held the presidency from 2008-2016? Were they pushing relentlessly for paper ballots, hand counted in public? For that matter, following the 2016 election, I heard lots of conspiracy theory talk from Team D, but little in the way advocating for paper ballots, hand-counted in public.

The Senate report was long on words, light on specifics. Great, if continuing a new cold war is your objective. Note that the House did not impeach on that basis, after two years and change of promising russiagate bombshells that never came.

marku52 Feral Finster 4 days ago

Both parties are in favor of hackable machines when they can get their hands on them. Neither advocates for clearly transparent elections.

gnt Feral Finster 4 days ago

According to this article, there are 8 states still using voting machines that produce no paper trail. It's not a long article, but I extracted this list:

"eight states that will use some form of paperless voting in 2020: Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kansas, Indiana, Kentucky and New Jersey. "

https://thehill.com/policy/...

gnt 4 days ago

There have been Democrats complaining about electronic voting machines for at least the last 20 years. You're a bit late to the party, but you're welcome to join. Our democracy works best when citizens are willing to work together toward goals on which they agree, regardless of whether or not they agree on all goals.

I would also be glad to see bipartisan electoral reform, but only if includes measures taken to protect votes before the actual voting starts. Some of the voter suppression measures we.ve seen in the last few years are:
- Purging of voter rolls near an election to keep voters from having a chance to vote
- Implementing postal procedures to reduce the speed of mail delivery to make it more difficult to vote by mail
- Removing mail sorting machines and post office drop boxes to make it more difficult to vote by mail
- Reducing the number of polling sites in areas populated by the other political party to complicate voting in person
- Rejecting mailed in ballots because trivial differences in the signature, such as a missing middle initial.

All of the Republican handwringing about "voter fraud" in the election seems to boil down to complaints that the judges stopped their efforts to steal the election. Some of that gets dressed up with pontification about the importance of the credibility of the election. The credibility of an election is supremely important, but voter suppression damages that credibility as much as voter fraud.

gnt 4 days ago

I noticed you did not mention the Ramsland affidavit in your discussion of the competence of Trump's legal team. The affidavit attempts to identify areas in Michigan in which more votes were cast than the number of registered voters. Unfortunately, all the examples provided were in Minnesota. That does not suggest thorough research. In addition, the areas listed in the affidavit tend to be in very Republican areas of Minnesota, suggesting that any voter fraud may be as likely to be Republican as it is to be Democratic.

Mark Thomason 3 days ago

"Keeping copies of the physical ballots does nothing to assuage these concerns"

I disagree. Here in Michigan we do regular hand checks of randomly chosen scanners, and of all of them if any problem arises. It has been remarkably accurate in my town.

The opposite of such scanning is prolonged counting, by fallible humans some of them partisan and fighting with other partisans. I don't see advantage there.

But yes, hacking of any electronic device is a monster problem, and must be addressed by regular and randomized physical confirmation, just as is done with any quality control issue.

Annie from Alaska Mark Thomason 3 days ago

To be effective against fraud the count needs to be compelled by law and done on a truly random sampling of ballots until statistical near-certainty of the result through hand-counting alone is achieved, falling back to a count of all ballots if the election is close.

Optional procedures executed in creative ways by goofy partisans is what "regular hand checks" sounds like to me, though I may be wrong.

I agree it's not worthless to save the ballots, and I'd even agree with you far enough to disagree with the author and say it's possible to design a good manual-check procedure. But I read what he said as a simplification of the truth: in 2016 there was so much sillyness in the law and the implementation of recount procedures that it'd be better if the machines weren't there at all, and I doubt that's changed.

Mark Thomason Annie from Alaska 3 days ago

When it is close, we by law have an automatic 100% recount of machine scanned ballots by hand. That is what was done in 2016. That was discontinued by agreement of both political parties after the initial round of those counts showed zero error. Zero. By agreement. Thus, it can be done. But you are correct about the sampling idea, and the need for uniform enforceable law on the matter.

Johnson 3 days ago

Now we're being told that we must simply believe Powell's theory that these companies stole the election.

No, you must either do your own investigating to try and ascertain the truth, (which NO media outlet seems to be doing) or keep an open mind that Powell will be able to prove what she says. Powell is not some two-bit lawyer. She's a seasoned federal prosecutor putting a lot on the line in making these claims. Grant her a modicum of respect in entertaining the possibility that she can back up what she says.

Also, the Trump campaign has filed exactly 3, and now 4 lawsuits - not 30-something as is continually and falsely reported and regurgitated by the media. The other lawsuits are by supporters and allies, but not Trump's lawyers. Yes, it's hard to keep up, but YOUR JOB is to at least try. Thank you.

John Seiler 3 days ago

I suggest young Master Jalsevac spend a couple of years living in one of our fine major cities to see how things really are run outside of political philosophy books.

Thomas Storck 3 days ago

One of the oddest things about this is that in the past, particularly in 2004, many Democrats charged that the Republicans had stolen the election, particularly in Ohio. Google: 2004 election stolen. You will find a lot of hits. Does anyone remember Diebold voting machines? Are they still in use? Were they manipulated on behalf of Republicans, then or later? I have no idea. But I want to make a few points: 1. Liberals have at times complained loudly about stolen elections and the ease of manipulating electronic results by various Republican-connected people. 2. Whether these were true or not have they ever been sufficiently investigated? 3. Why, now is it only a vast liberal conspiracy that is alleged to exist, and not perhaps the still existing conservative conspiracy from 2004? In November 2005 Mother Jones reviewed a book, Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too

Woland Thomas Storck 3 days ago

The voting machine division of Diebold was taken over by Dominion Voting Systems. That's the easiest conspiracy theory in history. The real question, if you want to believe, is why the Republicans sold their election-stealer to the Democrats.

KevinS 3 days ago • edited

The Judge's decision in the PA case Rudy "argued." He is a absolute disgrace!

The full decision is here:

https://www.courtlistener.c...

This conclusion:

"In other words, Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated. One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens.

That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. Therefore, I grant Defendants' motions and dismiss Plaintiffs' action with prejudice."

Robert Gardner 3 days ago

You know, this kind of reasonable and thoughtful writing is why, as a liberal, I like coming over here to the dark side of town to see what's going on. Even while struggling to present an open mind, he admits to being buried in the silliness of it all. A good read. Not surprised to see all these calls for crucifixion in the comments.

Hannibal Barca Robert Gardner 3 days ago

You know, this kind of reasonable and thoughtful writing .......

It is neither reasonable or thoughtful. It pretends to be condemning the defense while pretending that they would otherwise have a case. And he is refusing to acknowledge that the why Trump has to turn to Rudy - his last resort - is because the reputable lawyers he had on his team are refusing to make bogus claims in court; to be fair, so does Rudy, but he is willing to make them to the press and they are not.

Even while struggling to present an open mind, he admits to being buried in the silliness of it all.

You are doing what Liberals so often do. They are so hungry for a Republican who is not calling them names and willing to admit that Trump is at fault, that they completely miss the point that the "admission" is trying to make. When Comey admitted that Hillary Clinton omitted no indictable offense, they praised him for his "fairness". But he was not being fair at all. He would have to be an evil crook to indict the nominee of one of our major parties when he knew she could not be convicted. But he broke every rule of propriety and launched into a condemnation that handed Trump what he needed to win the election. So this writer admitted that Trump is making no case . So what? You seem to have missed the fact that he is falsely claiming that Trump does have case to make. And that claim is utterly baseless!

I am not a partisan. I detest political parties. But I also detest seeing partisans complimented for being non-partisan for simply not being on the raving extreme of their party. It lowers the standard of what it beings to be non-partisan. Non-partisan means to make judgements consistently on principle, applying the same standards to everyone. I expect that many Republicans will read my post and conclude that I am being partisan - because that is taken nowadays to mean "condemns my party". But I get accused just as often by Democrats to being a Republican, so that is alright with me. But in so far as this particular quarrel is concerned, President Trump has no case at all. The Pennsylvania elections were run be declared Republicans. Prominent Republicans, and they gave both Republican Senators more votes. They counted the legal votes as they were cast. They ran a fair, honest and honorable election!

Robert Gardner Hannibal Barca 3 days ago

Thanks for the magnificent reply, 414 words, all thoughtful. You may have me there in your sterner criticism of Rod's equivocation about Trump, but consider the audience, after all. As for being a liberal hungry for a conservative who is not an asshole, guilty as charged. You make a good point that Rod still seems still to yearn for Trump to have a case to make and that is true, but I think Rod is fairly conflicted in this and other conundrums conservatives must find themselves as the whole enterprise sinks into hopelessness and tawdry hopelessness at that. It is a hard row to hoe, after all. I never said he was non-partisan, just a poor conservative religious guy trying to make his way in the difficult world while continuing to try to be a decent man. It is what is endearing about his writing to me sometimes. But I thank you for this response, it shows both feeling and intelligence.

John Woodard Robert Gardner 2 days ago

This is not the dark side. There are way darker places than TAC.

[Nov 25, 2020] Here is quite the interesting take on Trump allowing the GSA to move forward with "transition". Biden must sign / attest to / deny any "foreign interests" including investments. #laptopfromhell

Nov 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Pigeon , 5 hours ago

Here is quite the interesting take on Trump allowing the GSA to move forward with "transition". Biden must sign / attest to / deny any "foreign interests" including investments. #laptopfromhell

https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/gsa-letter-forces-biden-to-disclose-conflicts-of-interest-interest-with-himself-and-his-team-to-foreign-nationals-and-other-foreign-agents.html/

Letter from Emily Murphy: "I remind you that Section 6 of the Act imposes reporting requirements on you as a condition for receiving services and funds from the GSA."

Gyromancer , 5 hours ago

And the contents of the laptop are available online now; leaked within the last couple of days, if nor before.

Very interesting stuff on there.

mikka , 5 hours ago

Care for a link?

Gyromancer , 5 hours ago

Check out thedonald.win

There are threads about it with links. The traffic is through the roof there, and it's hard to get in sometimes.

Pigeon , 5 hours ago

Thanks for the link.

SurfingUSA , 5 hours ago

Here's the main discussion with links to the laptop files:

https://thedonald.win/p/11QRyIPAtb/this-is-the-most-important-thing/c/

Gyromancer , 5 hours ago

https://ia601507.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/8/items/hb-docs/HB_DOCS.***

[Nov 25, 2020] Gingrich- The Thieves Who Stole Our Election Got Sloppy -

Nov 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Newt Gingrich, op-ed via The Epoch Times,

Laziness leads to sloppiness, and sloppiness is how the most brazen heist in American history is being exposed...

Stealing the 2020 election was a mammoth undertaking, involving widespread lawlessness and illicit partnerships between private actors and public officials. They've been working to cover their tracks since Election Day, but they didn't work fast enough. Now, the courts need to stop them from destroying any more evidence so that the people of Pennsylvania -- and the rest of the country -- can accurately assess the ramifications of their wrongdoing.

Explosive new litigation filed in federal district court on Nov. 21 details and documents a wide variety of illegal practices that were used to inflate the number of votes received by Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden, including disparate treatment of voters based on where they live and outright manipulation of Pennsylvania's voter registration system by partisan activists.

An unprecedented number of mail-in and absentee ballots were cast this year, and practically everyone expected that this would result in a higher-than-usual rate of ballots being rejected for various flaws, such as lacking a secrecy envelope or missing information. In Pennsylvania, tens or hundreds of thousands of ballots were likely to be rejected, based on historical patterns. Instead, a mere 0.03 percent of mail-in ballots were ultimately rejected -- somewhere in the neighborhood of about 1,000 votes.

Considering that a significant majority of mail-in votes were cast for Biden, the Democrat candidate benefited handsomely from this discrepancy. But how did this anomaly happen?

It turns out that election officials in Democrat strongholds such as Allegheny County (Pittsburgh), Philadelphia County, and Philadelphia's collar counties -- particularly Delaware County -- exceeded their authority in order to give voters preferential treatment that wasn't afforded to voters in Republican-leaning areas of the state.

Specifically, election workers illegally "pre-canvassed" mail-in ballots to determine whether they were missing a secrecy envelope or failed to include necessary information. When ballots were found to be flawed, voters were given an opportunity to correct, or "cure," their ballots to make sure they counted. In at least some cases, Democrat Party officials were even given lists of voters to contact about curing their ballots.

Election officials in Republican-leaning counties rightly interpreted this as a violation of Pennsylvania's election code, but Democrat Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar issued guidance authorizing the illegal practices despite lacking the statutory authority to do so.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

That's not the only way Democrats broke the law to give their candidate an unfair advantage, though. Extensive on-the-ground investigations conducted over the past year and a half by attorneys and investigators with the Amistad Project of the nonpartisan Thomas More Society have uncovered another element of the plot that involved even more egregious behavior.

Boockvar also exceeded her authority by granting private, partisan organizations -- including the notoriously pro-Democrat group "Rock the Vote" -- access to the Commonwealth's Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors (SURE).

"Rock the Vote's web tool was connected to our system, making the process of registering voters through their online programs, and those of their partners, seamless for voters across Pennsylvania," the lawsuit quotes Boockvar as saying.

That's not supposed to happen. It's one thing for outside groups to submit registration applications to the state on behalf of would-be voters, but election clerks are the only ones who are supposed to enter this sort of information directly into the records.

It's easy to see why by inspecting post-election voter lists, which contain names such as "Mary April Smith," followed by "Mary May Smith," "Mary June Smith," "Mary July Smith," and so forth through the rest of the calendar. When the same voter lists were purchased just a week later, however, those suspicious names had mysteriously disappeared from the rolls.

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Under the circumstances, that's direct evidence of a systematic effort to conceal wrongdoing. All further alterations to the SURE system should be immediately halted to allow a thorough investigation of the records before any more evidence can be destroyed.

The thieves who attempted to hijack the 2020 presidential election were bound to slip up somewhere, and now they're trying to clean up the glaring evidence of their wrongdoing before the full extent of their crimes can be exposed to the American public. We can't allow that to happen, or we may never be able to trust the integrity of our elections again.


[Nov 25, 2020] Lin Wood filed the lawsuit as a citizen of Fulton county, GA can be copied, names and dates changed and then filed by every other citizen of Fulton county, GA too.

Nov 25, 2020 | theconservativetreehouse.com

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 9:54 pm

BTW, if you all haven't heard the Lin Wood interview it is really good.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/R2OHdRUM9Gc?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en&autohide=2&wmode=transparent

He said the lawsuit he filed yesterday as a citizen of Fulton county, GA can be copied, names and dates changed and then filed by every other citizen of Fulton county, GA too.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yam5mxlrkn9r3o5/2020-11-16%20Verified%20Amended%20Complaint_Wood%20v.%20Raffensperger%20et%20al.pdf?dl=0

[Nov 25, 2020] Mark Steyn Interviews Sidney Powell on Rush Limbaugh Show - The Last Refuge

Nov 25, 2020 | theconservativetreehouse.com

David Vicknair , November 18, 2020 at 12:12 am

Unfortunately IMHO, the Kraken was either a careless misspeak or a bluff to shake the trees to see if a whistleblower would fall out. If the later, it failed. If the former, I am inclined to give Sidney a break. She has done yeoman's work for Flynn. And so the Kraken seems destined to remain a creature of Scandinavian lore and Hollywood movies. I wish it were not so. The Dominion software apparently is easily hacked and allows votes to be directly manipulated without a trace. Hard to make a case without an audit trail. I wonder whether the outcry from MAGA supporters will be sufficient to encourage states to choose a more secure vendor or will Dominion still be in widespread use during the midterms? Kemp, Raffensberger and company should be ridden out of GA on a rail after a good tar and feathering. Other states have their own corrupt actors who should receive the same consideration. They all have sold us out -- if the Dems take the Senate, even to slavery under socialism -- for 30 pieces of silver. As for Kemp and Raffensberger, in a different age I might have suggested an appointment with a high, sturdy branch in one of GA's many 100 plus years old live oaks.

Maximus-Cassius , November 18, 2020 at 9:50 am

"Releasing the Kraken" would be Trump invoking BOTH the Insurrection Act AND his 2018 EO protecting against foreign intervention in our elections.

Will it happe? Who knows, but if Trump is to survive, IMO, that is his ONLY card left to play.

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 9:33 pm

It's going to be a bloodbath, on all levels.

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 10:23 pm

As I listened to Lin's interview today I tho't that there must be something in the Southern water. Both he and Sidney have that Southern drawl. Very genteel, polished and extremely intelligent.

I am a very brave soul, but I don't think I would want to go up against either of them in a court of law. 🙂

JustDoItNow , November 17, 2020 at 9:28 pm

I forget who it was, either Lou or Tucker, that ended their interview telling Sidney half jokingly to remember to lock her doors at night.
Please remember to PRAY God's protection for this wonderful woman!

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GB Bari , November 18, 2020 at 12:03 am

I have no doubt the President has put a very capable guard team around Sidney & family.

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Pvt. Idaho , November 18, 2020 at 1:37 am

It was Mark Levin who told her.

UniPartySlayer , November 17, 2020 at 9:37 pm

When are they going to lay out the case? Lin Wood and Sidney have been making serious statements. They have reputations beyond reproach. I believe them when they say they have the goods. It's like they have to get the election called for Trump or they will surely be political prisoners.

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 10:04 pm

Count on it! And DEFINITELY 2018.

IF you watch the movie "Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America's Elections"* you will see that a steal was supposed to happen in Florida that day and it got thwarted, before it got started,

PLUS, they didn't have the mail in ballot scheme in place yet to back up their theft back then. China Virus was their plandemic to make that happen, and to get the cash from the Care$ Act to get machines for everyone.

*"(2020)From voter registration to counting ballots, data security expert Harri Hursti examines how hackers can influence and disrupt the U.S. election system."

President-Elect TwoLaine , November 17, 2020 at 10:49 pm

This is the video I took it from. This is the Eric Coomer Whistleblower.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/9tHeiYgErnw?version=3&rel=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&fs=1&hl=en&autohide=2&wmode=transparent

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jessetmims , November 17, 2020 at 10:33 pm

@ Right to reply In my opinion, the Democrats SUCCESSFULLY stole JFK's election, at least one of Bill Clinton's, and BOTH of Obama's.

James Urso , November 17, 2020 at 11:03 pm

Love Sidney Powell but that interview did not give me a lot of confidence. I sure hope she has some solid evidence. Doesn't sound like she has much though. Don't have much time left.

Biggest heist in the history of the US and nothing can be done about it is sickening. Barr and Wray should be ashamed of themselves for letting something like this happen on their watch. They did nothing. Thanks to them the constitution is now worth nothing. The rights are gone. Law and order is gone. We are on our own.

How do Barr and Wray even look at themselves in the mirror?

Ospreyzone , November 18, 2020 at 6:46 am

Finally, I found out from this interview where I could send money to support this legal effort. I'm tired of the RNC doing nothing. Sidney Powell will get my direct support now.
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[Nov 25, 2020] One thing Trump layers certainly have shown, beyond any reasonable doubt, is that electronic voting is a terrible idea.

Nov 25, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

At this point, the Trump administration has filed so many lawsuits, with so many affidavits, and has made such far-reaching claims of fraud, that it's nearly impossible to sort through them to know what, if anything, has actually been proven . However, one thing they certainly have shown, beyond any reasonable doubt, is that electronic voting is a terrible idea.

Notice, I do not say that anybody has proven that any fraud actually took place using electronic voting machines in the 2020 election. They haven't. Sidney Powell has presented many troubling questions about the vulnerabilities of electronic voting machines. As of yet, however, we have no hard evidence that anybody actually exploited those vulnerabilities (if they exist).

This is a distinction that many Trumpists are unfortunately failing to make. Casting broad doubts about the security of voting machines does not prove that the election was stolen. Such doubts, even if they turn out to be well-founded, will almost certainly be insufficient to convince any judge to invalidate a single vote, let alone overturn the entire election result.


[Nov 25, 2020] Fractional Magic (Ballot Tampering) The Burning Platform

Nov 25, 2020 | www.theburningplatform.com

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Well, this is mind-blowing stuff, if true.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fob-AGgZn44?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

If you don't have time to watch a 25 minute video, here is text explaining it (this is not a transcript of the video).

1 – SUMMARY –

This report summarizes the results of our review of the GEMS election management system, which counts approximately 25 percent of all votes in the United States. The results of this study demonstrate that a fractional vote feature is embedded in each GEMS application which can be used to invisibly, yet radically, alter election outcomes by pre-setting desired vote percentages to redistribute votes. This tampering is not visible to election observers, even if they are standing in the room and watching the computer. Use of the decimalized vote feature is unlikely to be detected by auditing or canvass procedures, and can be applied across large jurisdictions in less than 60 seconds.

gems-usaGEMS vote-counting systems are and have been operated under five trade names: Global Election Systems, Diebold Election Systems, Premier Election Systems, Dominion Voting Systems, and Election Systems & Software, in addition to a number of private regional subcontractors. At the time of this writing, this system is used statewide in Alaska, Connecticut, Georgia, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Utah and Vermont, and for counties in Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming. It is also used in Canada.

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Fractionalized vote:

Instead of "1" the vote is allowed to be 1/2, or 1+7/8, or any other value that is not a whole number.

What fractionalized votes can do:

They allow "weighting" of races. Weighting a race removes the principle of "one person-one vote" to allow some votes to be counted as less than one or more than one. Regardless of what the real votes are, candidates can receive a set percentage of votes. Results can be controlled. For example, Candidate A can be assigned 44% of the votes, Candidate B 51%, and Candidate C the rest.

GEMS fractionalizes votes in three places :

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  1. The "Summary" vote tally, which provides overall election totals for each race on Election Night
  2. The "Statement of Votes Cast", which provides detailed results by precinct and voting method (ie. Polling, absentee, early, provisional)
  3. The "undervote" count

Fractions in results reports are not visible.Votes containing decimals are reported as whole numbers unless specifically instructed to reveal decimals (which is not the default setting). All evidence that fractional values ever existed can be removed instantly even from the underlying database using a setting in the GEMS data tables, in which case even instructing GEMS to show the decimals will fail to reveal they were used.

Source code : Instructions to treat votes as decimal values instead of whole numbers are inserted multiple times in the GEMS source code itself; thus, this feature cannot have been created by accident.

Fractionalizing the votes which create the Summary Results allows alteration of Election Night Web results and results sent to the Secretary of State, as well as results available at and local election officials.

Fractionalizing the "Statement of Votes Cast" allows an extraordinary amount of precision, enabling alteration of results by specific voting machine, absentee batch, or precinct. Vote results can be altered for polling places in predominantly Black neighborhoods, and can parse out precincts within a mixed batch of early or absentee votes.

Fractionalizing the undervote category allows reallocation of valid votes into undervotes.

Voting rights abomination

According to programmer notes, a weighted race feature was designed which not only gives some votes more weight than others, but does so based on the voter's identity. Ballots are connected to voters, weights are assigned to each voter per race, stored in an external table not visible in GEMS. Our testing shows that one vote can be counted 25 times, another only one one-thousandth of a time, effectively converting some votes to zero.

The study was prompted by two issues: (1) Anomalies in elections in Shelby County, Tennessee, which uses the GEMS election management system, in which inconsistencies were observed in reporting of results by GEMS; and (2) Concerns raised regarding the presence of middlemen during the election process, such that a single individual gains remote access to the election management program, in some cases in multiple jurisdictions.

The questions we examine are these:

Can election outcomes be controlled with enough versatility to allow a national impact? Does any mechanism exist that would enable a political consultant or technician to capture elections for repeat customers?

If the necessary features exist within the election management system to facilitate this:

Were such features embedded accidentally or on purpose; for what stated purpose were such features installed; if a reason was given, is that reason justifiable?

How might risks associated with inside access be mitigated?

Next:

Part 2: Context, Background, Deeper, Worse http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-2

[Nov 25, 2020] The Daley Machine vs mail-in ballots harvesting today

Nov 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


5 hours ago

Not sure if this passes ZH / United States Censors:

Newspaper research . . .

The Daley Machine was one of attraction, promotion, and fear. Votes were generally cast at the Police Precincts. No one wants to go down to the Precinct; however, blocks of human populations of neighborhoods are divided into, as some would designate, Precincts.

The Daley Machine was composed of neighborhoods with party member volunteer canvassers who would distribute Voting Ballots to each address.

The Canvasser would wait for the Voting Ballot to be marked. Toe-tapping, fingertip tapping, brow-beating the Voter to mark a Voting Ballot, then collect, and then all canvassed Voting Ballots are aggregated to the Precincts. The bundles were twined. Twining is not a skill nowadays, but boxing is. The aggregate would be delivered to giant warehouses for counting. Seems all legitimate for the old ladies and old men volunteers who would not know who, which, or where the bundle or now box originated. Simply Count. Innocent.

The problem is/was many canvassers are lazy or expedient or late. Laughable - some voted multiple times, others dead, others gone, others - the newspapers sold much ink and paper for the disclosed variety of . . . uh . . . diversity of Voting cheats.

Traditional ingrained / inculcated PSYOP: Each voter studies the candidates. Each voter self-educates about a request/vote for action by government employees from Voters. After contemplative pondering based on personal assessed facts and desires, intelligently marks the ballot. Winners take all. And all congratulate the winners. Simple.

The Trumps were subject to massive, not fraud per se, but via hand held transceivers canvassers were organized that actually did travel address to address and waited for the occupant(s) to fill out the provided Voting Ballots.

With this toe-tapping, fingertip tapping, brow-beating and an sense of Hurry, canvassers waited as those who had no intention of voting marked Voting Ballots with a marker - ink, etc. And those who did not know were told to at least mark for the election of the President. The completed Voting Ballots were boxed and shipped for counting. Is this legitimate - yes. Are Voting Ballots properly filled - yes.

The Contemplative PSYSOP conflicts with Hurry-Up Reality. However, the Reality overrides the PSYOPS because the acts are legitimate.

If Voting Ballots are proven Daley Ballots the Trumps are going to have a very difficult time.

If Voting Ballots are proven not legitimate then the implication is the Entire United States Federal, State, County, City, Town, Village Governments run by United States Federal, State, County, City, Town, Village Government Employees are also not legitimate and Corrupt.

All United States Senate - not legitimate.
All United States House of Representatives - not legitimate.
All Executive Decisions and Bills signed in to USC Law - not legitimate.
All Supreme Court Decisions - not legitimate.

All Appointees by the Elected are not legitimate.

The entire United States Federal, State, County, City, Town, Village Government Employees Elected and Appointed - not legitimate.

If United States President Trump "wins" Voting Fraud lawsuits, the Entire United States Federal, State, County, City, Town, Village Governments run by United States Federal, State, County, City, Town, Village Government Employees are not legitimate.

Rules, Regulations, Policies, Procedures, and Laws - all not legitimate.

The afore is exactly why all those previous Elected and Appointed are adamantly against United States President Trump threatening the Foundations of the United States (corrupt) Democratic Republic with Truth.

United States Citizens and Others who are now tensioned, aghast, constricted over farcical sham Voting and Appointments would feel truly free, relieved, relaxed, and energized to participate once again. For many: The Truth Shall Set U Free!

The Greatest Event in Human History to remember for most all Remaining Human Time on Planet Earth is United States President Trump confirming what most people both United States Citizens and Others in previous centuries decades and years come to understand, know, and realize: Voting in the United States is a complete utter Farce and Fraud.

And, yes, United States President Trump would be remembered until the End of Time as the Greatest United States President who ever lived.

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NAV , 5 hours ago

It's a disgrace how the COVID19 coup d'etat was designed to allow hordes to shop for virtually anything at Costco et al or to riot and burn down cities but deemed it it too dangerous for the people to stand in line to vote.

SurfingUSA , 4 hours ago

Daley?

[Nov 25, 2020] Democrats and Media Abandon Democracy by Paul Craig Roberts

Nov 25, 2020 | www.unz.com

Michigan State Attorney General Dana Nessel has attributes of a Nazi. She, like Washington Post columnist Randall D. Eliason, wants to falsely prosecute attorneys who represent those making challenges to the election. She also wants to prosecute election officials who refuse to certify until irregularities are properly dealt with, and she wants to prosecute Pennsylvania Republican state officials who met with Trump at the White House. In other words, Dana Nessel has proved herself unfit for any public office by her effort to weaponize law for her political agenda.

George Washington Law School professor Jonathan Turley discusses Dana Nessel's attempt to coerce Republicans by threatening them with indictments. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/michigan-ag-calls-criminal-charges-against-gop-certifiers-who-wont-fall-line

Matthew Brann, a federal district judge appointed by Obama, refused to accept Giuliani's lawsuit against the Pennsylvania election fraud. The judge was not content to deny the case a hearing. He used the occasion for a propaganda attack, demonizing the lawsuit, based on affidavits from witnesses who signed under penalty of perjury, as "speculative accusations unsupported by evidence." The judge knows full well that affidavits are always evidence. So we now have an Obama federal judge who for political purpose pretends to be thoroughly ignorant of law and not know that affidavits signed under penalty of perjury are always evidence.

The presstitutes are not interested in Brann's extraordinary pretense of utter ignorance, which if true would disqualify him as a judge. Instead they are using his ignorant pronouncement as "proof" that the legal team has no evidence. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pennsylvania-judge-throws-out-trump-campaign-lawsuit

Democrats, who share Dana Nessel's determination to weaponize law and destroy democracy, are pushing Biden, if he becomes president, to prosecute Trump and his supporters. Rep. Bill Pascrell, Democrat from New Jersey, declared that "Donald Trump along with his worst enablers must be tried for their crimes against our nation and Constitution." If this sounds like a South American banana republic, that is what the Democrats are turning us into. https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/526978-biden-faces-politically-thorny-decision-on-trump-prosecutions

Attempting to prosecute Trump, of course, is what the Democrats have been doing for four years with Russiagate and Impeachgate without any evidence. Clearly, the Democrats envison a one-party state under them in which the abuse of law for political purpose to which they are giving birth cannot, in turn, be used against them. The Democrats are greasing the skids for America to become the most corrupt country on earth. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/22/the-dnc-an-american-politburo/

... ... ...

Americans are faced with a so-called Democrat political party that has abandoned America's democratic ways. Democrats have made a power grab for ideological purposes that are hostile to principles such as election integrity which is essential for democracy. Americans are also faced with the absence of a media that serves as watchdog and reports objectively. Without objective reporting, Americans are denied the information that democracy requires to function. Instead, the media controls explanations for the Democrats that support the Democrats' power grab. The picture is clear that both Democrats and media have abandoned democracy because democracy is a check on their agenda. They value their agenda more than they value democracy, and they are going to force their agenda down our throats whether we want it or not.

According to polls, a majority of Americans believe the November 3 election was stolen by the Democrats -- https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/21/30-of-democrats-believe-democrats-stole-the-election-and-75-of-republicans-think-so/

If the Democrats succeed with their theft, whatever is left of public confidence in American institutions will evaporate. After Clinton's lies, 9/11, Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, Assad's use of chemical weapons, Iranian nukes, Russian invasions, Russiagate, Impeachgate, Covid, and now a stolen presidential election, confidence in government must be close to nonexistent. When there is no confidence raw power takes over. If Democrats get away with their theft of the election, we will have crossed the Rubicon.

Some say there has always been voter fraud in American elections and ask what is new this time. What is new this time is election fraud on a national level with the appearance of a plot to create a one-party state. What is new this time is the entirety of the media in support of the party that committed the election fraud. What is new this time is the calls for prosecution of members of the defrauded party. What we are witnessing is not only the suppression of evidence but also the prosecution of those who present it.

Despite the evidence of election fraud, the Democrats have a good chance to succeed with their theft. First of all, we all know that the media will not present the case against the Democrats. The media will continue to deny that hundreds of affidavits are evidence. Most Americans will never hear the story of the extraordinary audacity that stole a presidential election.

Second, Trump is a populist, and few populists in America have ever succeeded at the national level. Populists are in the way of the elite who have more money and more influence. From the media's perspective, Trump's majority are "deplorables"–racists and misogynists who must be overthrown. The fact that Trump is a Republican does not mean that he has the support of the Republican Party. Republicans have just as many feet in the establishment as Democrats have. To the establishment Trump is an outsider and, thereby, a potential threat to their interest, just as his intention to normalize relations with Russia was seen by the military/security complex as a threat to their budget and power.

The absence of any Republican Party support for Trump is obvious in the failure of the Barr Justice Department to bring (1) any indictments against the government officials who orchestrated the Russiagate hoax and committed federal felonies, (2) any indictments against Biden and his son for the corruption evidenced in Hunter Biden's laptop in the hands of the FBI, and (3) the lack of any Justice Department interest in obvious election fraud backed up by hundreds of affidavits.

The Republican Establishment has hung Trump out to dry and is urging him to concede.

A minority of Republican voters themselves, although they regard the election as stolen, nevertheless believe that Trump should concede and thereby preserve the undeserved reputation of "American Democracy." These feeble-minded people think that it is not democracy itself that is at risk, but America's reputation.

Over the course of my life I have watched the politicization of the federal judiciary. Judges are no longer appointed because they are competent to interpret law according to the intent of Congress and the Constitution. They are appointed according to whether they do or do not support abortion, racial and gender quotas, homosexual marriage, open borders, amnesty for immigrant-invaders, the globalist agenda, and so forth. The American judiciary is chosen according to which party's agendas are ascendant. This is the way countries are destroyed.

Consider: if federal district judge Matthew Braun truly believed that Trump's legal team's Pennsylvania lawsuit is invalid, the partisan judge would accept the case and let its falsity be proven in court. What better way to dispose of the charge? That he closed the court to the case despite majority opinion of the public that the election was stolen is proof that he knows the lawsuit is grounded in evidence. So he suppresses the case instead of trying it.

When it is not only the Democrat Party and media who don't respect evidence but also federal courts, the basis for evidence -based law no longer exists. Instead, law is based on power. Who has power has the law.

The country that the Democrats and media are birthing will not know justice.


anonymous [146] Disclaimer , says: November 23, 2020 at 4:12 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

Banana republic. Funny you should mention that. The whole world came out with it at this month's Universal Periodic Review of the US, the most public forum in the world (remember the wall-to-wall press coverage of this vital gauge of US international standing?) Paraguay knows their banana republics, and they were the ones to adjure US compliance with SDG 16. This is the most halting, wobbly baby step of sustainable development: rock-bottom minimal institutional integrity of key state institutions.

For years now, international forums have related to the US in more and more pointed elaborations of "What the fuck is wrong with you people?" – aimed at the delegation apparatchiks, not at the long-suffering population. Russia, with no fucks to give, pointed to the underlying rot – CIA control of elections. (Thanks for that Wikileaks cable, by the way.) Here's the facts from Hopsicker and his monster stones (he got a visit from them, he's so balls-out)

https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/11/15/short-history-election-fraud/

At some point Sidney has to switch from Chavez euphemisms to the direct bill of indictment against CIA. That will be a very touchy moment in the Supreme Court. If it doesn't go just right, all nine hacks will wind up sporting matching petechiae at Cibolo Creek Ranch.

Patrick in SC , says: November 23, 2020 at 7:38 pm GMT • 20.6 hours ago

This creature is a sociopath. She is a direct descendant of the ethnic clique which murdered the Tsar and his children during the Bolshevik revolution. She has in mind the same thing for us.

Richard B , says: November 24, 2020 at 2:41 am GMT • 13.5 hours ago
@nickels e result is a devastating social incoherence. If enough people recognize this to form a critical mass a culture crisis breaks out. And that's the position we're in. From this perspective their rhetorical mask is a small band-aid on a gaping wound that won't heal because it can't stop bleeding.

Their efforts to establish a society free of control and sustained by force only increases the uncontrolled exercise of naked power. And that force, constantly applied, destablizes the very social institutions that power controls . Especially economic institutions. And when force fails there's no alternative. So the whole thing collapses. In fact, it already is.

TKK , says: November 24, 2020 at 7:17 am GMT • 8.9 hours ago

I researched the federal docket system PACER and deduced a possible reason The Trump Campaign distanced from Sidney Powell.

Attorney Powell is pursing Dominion's election corruption on a systemic level. This is a wide and far investigation with many moving parts: the software flipping votes, international actors, connections to Kamal Harris's husband.

Attorneys Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani must frantically laser focus on state election official's certification of 7 million votes in PA and before the December 14 when the Electoral College convenes.

Judge Brann, the repellent obese hack appointed by Obama but who is a Republican , did exactly as Mr. Robert's aptly stated and amazingly ruled on substantive issues when only procedural ones were being presented at that time.

Because of Judge Brann's ruling dismissing (and demonizing and ridiculing) the complaint , Trumps's lawyers have filed an Expedited Emergency Motion for Leave to the Amend the Complaint to the 3rd Circuit.

This is just a way of saying: Let us present our evidence!

If the 3rd Circuit affirms Brann's dismissal- the Supreme Court is next step.

If SCOTUS denies review (which is most likely) that's the last Stop.

Derer , says: November 24, 2020 at 8:18 am GMT • 7.9 hours ago

Democrats imitating the 1918 Bolsheviks power grab in Russia but naively hopping in bloodless version of the coup unlike Bolsheviks. Ironically the main players are from the same brethren Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev, Zinoviev = Schumer, Nadler, Schiff, Soros, Bloomberg.

GeeBee , says: November 24, 2020 at 8:33 am GMT • 7.7 hours ago
@Franz he plutocrats have more money than the politicians – 'the vote' counts for nothing. Which is to say that to all intents and purposes, there is no 'vote' and thus, there is no 'check on government power'. The oligarchy wishes to implement – and therefore demands – what we might call 'Agenda A', and thus, at all elections in the entire West today, the hapless 'voters' are given the choice of electing 'Agenda A' in a red rosette, or 'Agenda A' in a blue rosette.

This is our much vaunted 'democracy and it stinks. The moment that the merchant became wealthier than the king – once the counting-house had more money than the palace – the people's fate was sealed.

John Wear , says: November 24, 2020 at 8:46 am GMT • 7.5 hours ago

This is an excellent article. I agree with Paul Craig Roberts that the federal judiciary has become heavily politicized. I also agree that if Trump's case is so weak, Matthew Braun should have heard the case and let its falsity be proven in court.

AnitaHulluvachick , says: November 24, 2020 at 10:04 am GMT • 6.2 hours ago

As a woman, I'm beginning to think we need 100 years in the penalty box for producing these creatures. Maybe we should reconsider the 19th amendment. Lol

Anonymous [290] Disclaimer , says: November 24, 2020 at 11:03 am GMT • 5.2 hours ago

When it is not only the Democrat Party and media who don't respect evidence but also federal courts, the basis for evidence -based law no longer exists. Instead, law is based on power. Who has power has the law.
The country that the Democrats and media are birthing will not know justice.
https://www.unz.com/proberts/democrats-and-media-abandon-democracy/

Paraguay knows their banana republics, and they were the ones to adjure US compliance with SDG 16. This is the most halting, wobbly baby step of sustainable development: rock-bottom minimal institutional integrity of key state institutions.
https://www.unz.com/proberts/democrats-and-media-abandon-democracy/#comment-4301369
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That's about as basic as things get. Institutional integrity of key state institutions has (as Roberts says) been lost, and in the 2020 Federal elections and current aftermath to same this integrity loss has been used to threaten the general population.

This has been done before with the USSR and the CCP. But all one-party rule does is place a rhetorical mask over the incompetence and corruption and does nothing to solve the many problems involved in the exhausting task and unrewarding responsibility of social management. It doesn't even work in homogenous cultures. How could it work in one as diverse as the USA?
This is exactly why what we're really witnessing is nothing less than The Pyrrhic Victory of The Hostile Elite. The reason is, though they may have been very good at infiltration, subversion, radical ingratitude, insane hatred, brazen effrontery, shamelessness, betrayal, destruction and death, they're no good at social management
. . .
Their efforts to establish a society free of control and sustained by force only increases the uncontrolled exercise of naked power. And that force, constantly applied, destabilizes the very social institutions that power controls. Especially economic institutions. And when force fails there's no alternative. So, the whole thing collapses. In fact, it already is.

https://www.unz.com/proberts/democrats-and-media-abandon-democracy/#comment-4302391

All of the above is true, and the underlying thought has been known in the West and repeatedly demonstrated for several thousand years. How, exactly, could these bedrock principles have been abandoned? Let's look outside of political theory and history of ideas.
Here's an earlier example of physical / economic events fundamentally changing political thought: Nietzsche pointed out c.a. 1900 that industrialization had destroyed European society. Religion died. ""God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers?" Ideas previously considered speculative and harmful had become mass beliefs as people moved from the farm to the city, found their village life impossible to live in the city, and looked for a new way of life that would let them eat and raise families. They found it in Enlightenment theory.

Here is our version of physical events changing political thought:

Franz , says: November 24, 2020 at 12:11 pm GMT • 4.0 hours ago
@Stonehands

Yes he did.

How many times are the soldiers better than the generals? More often than we think, maybe.

Or as David Niven once famously said of Errol Flynn: "You could count on him. He ALWAYS let you down."

Trump is still a mystery to plenty of people. If he's canny, why does he listen to Jared and Ivanka? If he wanted normal relations with Russia, why didn't he grab the ball when Putin literally tossed it to him? Why did he tolerate four years of hostile media when he had the money, or at least the investors, to start a network of his own?

Nothing in the last four years makes any sense. Not one bit.

RouterAl , says: November 24, 2020 at 1:06 pm GMT • 3.1 hours ago

Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee who's grave I often visited in Greyfriars church Edinburgh Scotland is reported to have said

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

The ironic part in all this is that the Jews and the oligarchs think they will be the beneficiaries of this collapse they have engineered , however they are in error. When law and order breaks down the strong will prevail over wimps like Zuckerberg, Bezos, Gates etc and all the rest of the spoiled virtue signalling wimps. The ex-military will become the strong and they will start the destruction then re-building of what's left of White Western Civilization. Maybe this time they will finally sort out Usury and what's left of the Jews, blacks and deny any role in public life for women, I can but dream, but at 70 I will not be here to see it.

Anonymous [315] Disclaimer , says: November 24, 2020 at 1:12 pm GMT • 3.0 hours ago

I live in Michigan. There was something very off putting about the 2018 Michigan election. That election swept many extremists into office. Mostly women. How we get rid of them is beyond me. Once these people get into office they seem to be firmly entrenched. No matter how awful they are, they have an equally awful fan base.

I absolutely believe in election fraud, and Michigan 2018 was a perfect example. Yet, no one has said a word. The population of Michigan will be further eroded because of the political climate in this state.

Realist , says: November 24, 2020 at 1:50 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago

Michigan State Attorney General Dana Nessel has attributes of a Nazi. She, like Washington Post columnist Randall D. Eliason, wants to falsely prosecute attorneys who represent those making challenges to the election. She also wants to prosecute election officials who refuse to certify until irregularities are properly dealt with, and she wants to prosecute Pennsylvania Republican state officials who met with Trump at the White House.

So what dumbass Americans elected them.

AnonFromTN , says: November 24, 2020 at 3:26 pm GMT • 48 minutes ago

You cannot abandon something you don't have. The US was not a democracy for decades, if it ever was. Western media have declined in quality over the last ~30 years, from something palatable representing different viewpoints to today's monolith with uniformity of "opinions" matched only in Hitler's Germany in 1930s and Stalin's USSR in the same period.

[Nov 25, 2020] An Expert on Voting Machines Explains How They Work - Scientific American

Nov 25, 2020 | www.scientificamerican.com

Although the technology used in voting continues to evolve, it remains vulnerable to both malicious and unintentional errors. To protect the systems against both, explains Douglas W. Jones , a computer scientist at the University of Iowa and co-author of the book Broken Ballots , election officials need to be able to check and double-check the election's results.

"There's a nice dictum that that [computer scientist and electronic-voting-security researcher] David Dill came up with at Stanford University: if we do it right, the Devil himself could build the voting machines, and we could hold an honest election," Jones says. "And doing it right means having genuinely auditable technology -- with ballots where the average voter knows that the marks they made on their ballot express their real intent." Scientific American spoke with Jones about how voting machines work, their vulnerabilities, and what to expect on and after Election Day.

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What kinds of machines are in use across the U.S. today?

We've gotten rid of the punch card and mechanical lever voting machines. Those are now not so ancient history. What we're left with are two categories of voting machines, both of which were introduced in the 1960s and 1970s. Optical scan voting machines are the ones that are closely related to standardized test scoring machines, where you fill in a bubble on the ballot next to the candidate names. Those are, at this point, the most widely used voting technology in the U.S. The other category we have are the direct-recording electronic voting machines. The first of those was actually deployed in the 1970s in Illinois, but the vast expansion in the use of those machines happened after the Help America Vote Act was passed in 2002. It's very clear [that] the authors of the Help America Vote Act anticipated that direct-recording electronic voting machines would become the new normal. But, in fact, they were extraordinarily problematic for security reasons.

A fundamental flaw of direct-recording voting machines -- that is, ones where you pull the lever on an old mechanical machine or you touch the touch screen on a modern one -- all of those machines end up being completely impossible to audit. There's no way to know whether the machine was honest or not, short of taking it apart and actually being able to inspect the mechanism. We have no good way of doing that with software. The complete lack of any auditable record of the count, so that you had to completely trust programmers, was a real problem. [But] the vast majority of votes in the U.S. today are being recorded on paper ballots that are filled in by hand. That makes me feel reasonably good. And furthermore, a growing number of states have some kind of an audit law.

What other problems do we see with modern voting machines?

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This is an old rule in computer security that I first learned in the 1970s, no less true today. And that is: the biggest threat to all of our systems is not the malicious outside hacker but rather the fact that there are lots of perfectly honest normal people making errors. We humans have an amazing ability to be remarkably accidentally inventive with the mistakes we make. With fill-in-the-bubble ballots, a typical error would be printing the ballot with the candidates in one order but programming the scanner with the candidates in a different order. There was a famous incident of this happening [in] Pottawattamie County, [Iowa], in 2006 in its June primary. The net result was that the numbers that came up were pretty nonsensical and bore no relationship with anyone's expectation of the outcome of the race. The election officials noticed. They did a hand count, and that completely resolved the problem. And they could because they had paper ballots.

In-person voters can feed their paper ballots directly into a scanner to be automatically counted. But how are absentee ballots tallied up?

Late into the night on Election Night, at the election office, they've been counting absentee ballots all day, piling them up and putting them through high-speed scanners that scan 800 ballots per minute -- speeds like that. Some jurisdictions have automatic envelope openers where you just take a whole stack of absentee ballot envelopes, stack them up neatly, put them in the machine, and it goes up and takes a sixteenth of an inch off the edge of each envelope so that the ballots can easily be shaken out of the envelopes. You have signature-verification software being used by some jurisdictions, where the envelope gets sucked into the machine, put in front of a camera, and the signature is -- either by software or displayed on someone's remote computer screen -- checked. These actually resemble very closely the machinery used by the Post Office for automatically reading mail addresses, except the purpose is to verify the signature. And that's another whole can of worms, because in many cases, none of our laws really govern how we check signatures. It turns out that the mathematics of signature acceptance and rejection ends up being horrible. If you reject any signatures, chances are you're rejecting more signatures of honest, valid voters than you are catching invalid signatures.

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Does the counting process continue after Election Day?

We have long-standing traditions of things like a postmark deadline on the eve of the election. That's how it's been in Iowa for as long as I've been here. So for the week after the election, late mail is still dribbling into the election office -- and all those late envelopes are checked for their postmarks and, if the postmarks are acceptable, counted. Now there's a problem there, as the Post Office, over the past few decades, has been reducing the frequency with which it applies postmarks of any kind to letters. Yet the Post Office does automatically bar code every envelope that goes through its scanners these days. The Post Office has the records to tell you when that bar code was applied. Its computer system is really good at this, but it's not acceptable under some state laws. So postmark deadlines are a real problem because the Post Office has reduced the extent to which classical postmarks are still used.

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There's this period after the election during which the counts are checked and cross-checked, [a process called the canvass ]. For example, in Miami, they have this giant spreadsheet showing one column for each candidate for each office; one row for each precinct. After they had all those data, then they would go through the tapes printed out by the voting machines at the precinct -- the summary tapes that showed the total number of votes -- and they would compare it with that spreadsheet for the purpose of ruling out any error in their central tabulating software because there have been such errors. This can take several days after the election, even if they aren't handling late absentee ballots. At that point, the Board of Elections then signs off on the report of canvass. And the report of canvass is then forwarded to the state, which goes through the same process. A growing number of states do postelection audits before they sign the official canvass reports, and in other states, like Iowa, we do a postelection audit after signing the report of canvass. Although the Iowa law says that the audit cannot change the outcome of the election, at least you discover [if] you made a mistake. So it can take several weeks after the election to put the election to bed.

[Nov 24, 2020] The Dominion Algorithm Used to Steal the Election by Larry C Johnson

This is still a hypothesis not a proven fact. Proven fact is that nobody investigates why votes counting was stopped and why unmarked vans arrives ar some station in the middle of the night with additional mail-in ballots.
Philadelphia used also other types of voting machines so this is not exclusively Dominion voting machines. . Philadelphia used also other types of voting machines so this is not exclusively Dominion voting machines. .
But as for Dominion an interesting question is: why over 100 employees of the controversial voting machine company Dominion have deleted their LinkedIn profiles. On November 6th, the LinkedIn page for Dominion showed 243 employees on the site and by November 16th, only 140 remained
Nov 24, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

A fellow by the name of Edward Solomon has done yeoman's work in digging into the Pennsylvania voting data and showing conclusively, in my view, how the Democrats, with the help of Dominion, rigged the vote. What was done in Pennsylvania, specifically Philadelphia, reveals how the Dominion software magically created votes for Joe Biden to swamp the actual number of votes Donald Trump was ringing up.

I will embed the video below. It last about 40 minutes. It is worth your time. But let me give you the Reader's Digest version. When the early vote numbers rolled in, it was clear that Donald Trump was on his way to a major win. The task for Dominion was to manufacture votes for Biden without making it obvious. They tried, but failed.

Mr. Solomon takes the raw vote data that was being streamed by the NY Times and downloaded it into a spreadsheet. That data allows him to look at vote totals by precinct and how they changed over time. He found that a variety of ratios were used in different sets of precincts. For example, his Exhibit 1 shows a group of precincts where the votes were being recorded at the following ratio–1 vote for Trump and 48 for Biden.

The diabolical system employed by Dominion started with needing to generate a total vote total for Joe Biden. Rather than employ a single computer calculation, Dominion used a number of algorithm's. Mr. Solomon identifies at least 9 different calculations used to create these votes.

Exhibit 1 Ratio of 1 to 48

Exhibit 2 Ratio of 1 to 18

Exhibit 3 Ratio of 4 to 65

Exhibit 4 Ratio of 3 to 48

Exhibit 5 Ratio 4 to 63

Exhibit 6 Ratio of 5 to 31

Exhibit 7 Ratio of 1 to 5

Exhibit 8 Ratio of 1 to 4

Exhibit 9 Ration of 1 to 6

The data examined by Mr. Solomon is only one part of the proof of the voter fraud. Data from other parts of Pennsylvania will need to be examined to determine if there is a similar pattern or if the data from Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are outliers.

The next evidentiary question to be asked, and answered, is whether there are actually ballots that back up the numbers reported on the computer. If there are ballots for Biden but no ballots for Trump, that is conclusive evidence of the fraud.

There are multiple sworn affidavits from witnesses of truck loads of ballots being off-loaded at the center in Philadelphia. Those ballots must be examined. If the ballots only show Joe Biden's name and there are no ballots matching the numbers reported for Trump, that means one thing. Fraud.


Deap , 23 November 2020 at 11:18 AM

Cloward-Pivens won the election.

Make voting so complicated and easily overwhelemed by processes and short timelines, it loses all ability to be fair and accurate. Then beat up anyone who protests these new layers of complexity as wanting to undermine the right to vote.

Voting is a right and a duty. People do have to sacrifice this one day out of 365 days and show up in person, ID in hand, and exercise their duty to be an informed voter, filling out a trackable paper ballot. Exceptions based on need are the exception; not common place.

Europe prohibits "electronic voting" for good reason. Democrats have slowly and systematically undermined out entire election process.

Just take a look at California. Networks did not wait even one second after the polls closed to "declare" Biden won in California, before a single vote was counted. They knew the obvious outcome of a state now long corrupted by a Democrat super-majority guaranteed election system. No other outcome was possible in this state.

Term limits was the final coffin nail in this state. Never think term limits will solve anything. Voters must dislodge the bums; not some arbitrary election rule. Nature abhors a vacuum. Term limits created a power vacuum.

The highly organized and disciplined public sector union swooped into this power vacuum and now cannot be dislodged. The spent the past 20 years rigging the system entirely in their favor. A big piece of this take-over was passed always as "election reform".

Deap , 23 November 2020 at 11:52 AM

Micael Levin weighs in on the proof of fraud, the quantity of fraud and the quality of fraud, Democrats have moved their argument away from no fraud, to not enough fraud to matter. Sure.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/lucy-collins/levin-quantity-fraud-not-test

exiled off mainstreet , 23 November 2020 at 12:46 PM


It is convincing. The fact the ratios were repeatedly exact copies is proof of the fix. This never happens in real life and it shows that this was probably a last minute fix to account for a bigger Trump lead than they expected, since with more time, they could probably develop an algorithm that varied the numbers more. Since these are civil actions, this should be enough right there if it were a fair system, but overwhelming political pressure from the permanent regime is, unfortunately, another factor to be considered.

LondonBob , 23 November 2020 at 01:19 PM


I believe the argument of machine fraud goes beyond just Dominion to others, so we can discount that Philadelphia used another system.

He has done a good job highlighting anomalies, I just think it lacks the context to judge, you can't look at it in isolation, you need to compare more to what looks clean.

I actually much prefer the analysis of Montgomery County, this is much better.
https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/explosive-new-data-from-rigorous-statistical-analysis-points-to-voter-fraud-in-montgomery-county-pa/

LondonBob , 23 November 2020 at 01:19 PM


I believe the argument of machine fraud goes beyond just Dominion to others, so we can discount that Philadelphia used another system.

He has done a good job highlighting anomalies, I just think it lacks the context to judge, you can't look at it in isolation, you need to compare more to what looks clean.

I actually much prefer the analysis of Montgomery County, this is much better.
https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/explosive-new-data-from-rigorous-statistical-analysis-points-to-voter-fraud-in-montgomery-county-pa/

[Nov 24, 2020] Mark Steyn Interviews Sidney Powell on Rush Limbaugh Show

Nov 24, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

LondonBob , 24 November 2020 at 10:22 AM

I agree with Robert Barnes, the Dominion stuff distracts from the main fraud of ballot stuffing and ballot harvesting. He views it as a deliberate distraction. Signature matching should be the focus and will be sufficient to flips most of the states needed, and PA and MI the legislature can just send there own electors if they vote to do so.

https://twitter.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1330949246216937474?s=20

[Nov 24, 2020] Occam's razor would have you agree that voter suppression did occur

Nov 24, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

PerceiveToBeWise bumbershoot 7 days ago • edited

Occam's razor would have you agree that voter suppression did occur (wildly inaccurate polling data broadcast from the MSM to suppress Trump voter turnout in the months, weeks, and days leading up to election (why vote when you are going to loose by double digits). Occam's razor would have you agree that electronic theft and illegality switching of votes which has been both proven in real time recorded on TV as vote totals were updated and shown in the JSON files which demonstrates substantial systemic voter fraud. This is rather humorous because your posts lack any intellectual rigor on your part or even showing any desire to dig for the truth - hence, you are just a troll

[Nov 24, 2020] Dershowitz- Trump Has 'Two or Three Legal Constitutional Paths' -- 'I Don't Think that the Election Is Going to Be Reversed'

Nov 24, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

DERSHOWITZ: Well, let me give you my completely objective, not wishful thinking, constitutional analysis.

They have two or three legal constitutional paths. For example, in Pennsylvania, they have two very strong legal arguments, one, that the courts changed what the legislature did about counting ballots after the end of Election Day.

That's a winning issue in the Supreme Court. I don't necessarily support it, but it's a winning issue in the Supreme Court. And Justice Alito has already hinted that's a winning issue.

They also have a winning issue on the Supreme Court on equal protection, that some counties allowed flawed ballots to be cured, while others didn't. Bush vs. Gore suggests that an equal protection argument can prevail.

The problem with that argument is, they don't have the numbers necessarily to support it. If it's right that Biden is ahead by some 70,000 or 80,000 votes, they have to show enough contested votes, under those two legal theories, to change the outcome.

The other legal theory they had, which is a potentially strong one, is that the computers, either fraudulently or by glitches, changed hundreds of thousands of votes. There are enough votes to make a difference, but I haven't seen the evidence to support that.

So, in one case, they don't have the numbers. In another case, they don't seem yet to have the evidence. Maybe they do. I haven't seen it. But the legal theory is there to support them if they have the numbers and they have the evidence.

[Nov 24, 2020] PBS Newshour did piece on Dominion voting system before the election and what they found was troubling

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Nov 13, 2020 | therightscoop.com

PBS Newshour had a 'white hat hacker' named Harri Hursti inspect the system and he said "they have set up a complicated system which is centralized; it doesn't seem to have any safeguards."


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They described the system as having a lot of moving parts, saying "it's an assortment of laptops, iPads, magnetic cards, touch screens, printers and scanners."

PBS says the devices replaced touchscreens in 2019 which didn't created a paper ballot, but one of the women responsible for bringing about this change isn't terribly happy with the new system either. And election experts have found several troubling problems with the new system, especially the Q.R. codes it creates for tabulation:

Alex Halderman looked closely at the Q.R. codes where the votes are encoded for the scanner. "By analyzing the structure of the Q.R. codes, I have been able to learn that there's nothing that stops an attacker from just duplicating one, and the duplicate would count the same as the original barcode."

And in late September, another concern came to light. During testing, election workers found half the names of the 21 candidates for Senate intermittently disappeared from screens during the review phase. Dominion sent out a last-minute software patch.

Halderman caution: "I'm worried that the Georgia system is the technical equivalent to the 737 MAX. They have just made a last-minute software change that might well have unintended consequences and cause even more severe problems on Election Day."

Hirsti expressed concern that the system was being rushed out with the proper testing:

You never want to rush something which is mission-critical, and this is mission-critical, into production without proper time for testing.

That's really one of the ways bad actors are finding the vulnerabilities to exploit is looking for honest vulnerabilities and finding out if they can be weaponized, if they can be exploited.

The actual segment goes on for 7 minutes and you can watch it below:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/v62C-riEZ0I?enablejsapi=1&autoplay=0&cc_load_policy=0&cc_lang_pref=&iv_load_policy=3&loop=0&modestbranding=1&rel=0&fs=1&playsinline=0&autohide=2&theme=dark&color=red&controls=1&


IWannaBFree 9 days ago ,

Face it, politicians in general are lazy, incompetent, power-hungry, greedy and worthless. Very few actually care about the American people or want to work for us. They keep getting re-elected over and over because of promises made and NOT kept. They get in a back room and make deals to NOT do their jobs and draw straws on who will take the blame. When election time rolls around again, the people continue to believe their propaganda and vote them in again...and the cycle continues. Look at Biden, 47 years in public office. The man has NO skills...he can't do anything else. Same for most politicians. Never vote for someone that has not worked in the real world...and don't vote for lawyers (they always find the loophole in every law and use it to keep themselves living a lifestyle we only dream about).

Warlock 06 IWannaBFree 9 days ago ,

When you look at politicians, they are mostly made up of failed lawyers.


Ken Fowler
10 days ago
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All of the Dominion Voting machines should be impounded; the States to be reimbursed and each machine checked by the Federal Government to see if software is corrupted or preprogramed to favor one party or the other. Then the Federal Government should order new unbiased machines-all should be checked and be calibrated in time for the next election. These should be stored under lock and key in a Federal Facility and guarded by Federal Marshals during the voting. It should be a Federal Crime to impede the will of the peoples vote. Next Subpoena Soros to testify in front of the Senate to explore his tactics and recommend Federal Prosecution for any violation of Federal or State Law in the United States.

Skiptomylou Ken Fowler 9 days ago ,

Everything connected to the internet is hackable. Why don't we just go back to paper ballots, photo ID and same day in person voting? I think it really is that simple.

Warlock 06 Christine Alford 9 days ago ,

I Georgia there are paper ballots, after choosing the candidates you want you review the screen then push print. A paper ballot with the selections are on the paper with the QR code. The ballot is then scanned into a machine where it is also collected in an internal box. Voters are encouraged to make sure their selections shown on the paper are correct before feeding the ballot into the machine. I voted in Georgia, but I did not know there were all of the problems with the security of the machines.

Derek Smalls Christine Alford 10 days ago ,

All those machines keep a digital photo of the ballet and election boards are required by federal law to keep those images for 22 months.

John E Turner Derek Smalls 10 days ago ,

Apparently Michigan turned off that option on their machines!

TXGRunner Fᵉᵈᵉʳᵃˡ ᶦˢᵗ ☑ 10 days ago • edited ,

The corrupt politician/attorney leading CISA (@CISAgov IT sec agency within DHS) is Christopher Krebs (@CISAKrebs). He only has 3 years experience in IT sec, much of that on non-IT related infrastructure security. He has no IT or IT sec background. His bachelor degree is "environmental sciences" and then he earned a JD. The schmuck is a lawyer who brownnosed his way into DHS 3 years ago and was handed IT/infrastructure security with zero experience.

Now, he says:
- 2020 was most secure election ever
>> bogus, unprovable claim: secure in what sense? Based on what, % of voter fraud, how would he know that for any previous, let alone current election.
- 2020 had highest voter turnout in since 1908, based on that alone, even if fraud % were steady with previous cycles, this election would have the most fraudulent votes cast ever, and as turnout goes up, fraud exploits do to.
- 2020 saw a huge % increase in mail-in and early votes, which are most subject to fraud; we would expect a higher % of fraudulent/illegal votes based on that alone - there is no metric upon which to base his claim
- he claimed there was no evidence of fraud
>> demonstrably untrue - the Texas SOS office recommended denial of Dominion software precisely because it lacked safeguards and was unsecure. As per reports above, Georgia had issues with software during primary. We also know of issue in Antrim County, Michigan. Krebs is lying.

- he told voters with questions about irregularities to "turn to your trusted election officials" - the same ones committing the irregularities...that's like asking the Nigerian Prince email scammer if he's real, do you expect them to be honest?

Krebs should not only be fired, he should be barred from working for the federal government ever again.

I've worked IT security for two decades. We wouldn't hire this joker to work frontline helpdesk.

WhiteBluecollarRedneck 10 days ago ,

Dominion voting systems got an "upgrade" before the election. But the powers that be don't care.
They won. They won because of it. Future historians will write about it, but by then, it won't matter.

mikwcas1 10 days ago ,

Paper ballots, in person voting, on voting day, across the country. 99% of the problem, solved.

nativeson mikwcas1 10 days ago ,

That's the way the GA runoffs should be handled. No absentee, mail-in or machine voting.


Recognizing_Truth
nc ✓s & balances 10 days ago
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With a paper ballot, even if the machine screws up, and there is a recount, they recount the ORIGINAL PAPER BALLOT, and do so by hand.

With electronic votes, if they screw up vote assignment, you can't tell. If they lose votes, the counts don't match, but you've still lost the original vote. In both cases, it's IMPOSSIBLE to do a proper recount.

Rollercoaster on Fire 10 days ago • edited ,

Again, I believe this is where the focus should be. People need to know these systems worked properly.

Edit: GA republicans were so afraid of being called racist that they allowed this nonsense. Just shows how powerful such accusations can be.

[Nov 24, 2020] Report- Man gets death threats after exposing 'Dominion guy'- Internet profile is being 'scrubbed'

PBS Newshour had a 'white hat hacker' named Harri Hursti inspect the system and he said "they have set up a complicated system which is centralized; it doesn't seem to have any safeguards."
Alex Halderman looked closely at the Q.R. codes where the votes are encoded for the scanner. "By analyzing the structure of the Q.R. codes, I have been able to learn that there's nothing that stops an attacker from just duplicating one, and the duplicate would count the same as the original barcode."
Halderman caution: "I'm worried that the Georgia system is the technical equivalent to the 737 MAX. They have just made a last-minute software change that might well have unintended consequences and cause even more severe problems on Election Day."
Nov 16, 2020 | www.worldtribune.com

A Denver businessman said he has received death threats after exposing a Dominion Voting Systems employee who boasted about being able to rig the 2020 election against President Donald Trump, a report said.

In an interview with the Gateway Pundit's Jim Hoft on Sunday, Denver businessman Joe Oltmann said he was able to infiltrate Antifa and during a Sept. 27 conversation with Antifa members discovered "Eric from Dominion".

Oltmann told the Gateway Pundit that "Eric" was telling Antifa members they needed to "keep up the pressure." When one of the caller's on a September group call asked, "Who's Eric?" someone answered, "Eric, he's the Dominion guy."

As the conversation continued, Oltmann said someone asked: "What are we gonna do if F*cking Trump wins?" Oltmann paraphrased how Eric (the Dominion guy) responded, "Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!"

Oltmann identified the "Dominion guy" as Eric Coomer. In 2010, Coomer joined Dominion as vice president of U.S. engineering, the report said. According to his biography, Coomer graduated from the University of California, Berkeley with a Ph.D. in Nuclear Physics.

Coomer was later promoted to voting systems officer of strategy and security at Dominion. He has since been removed from the Dominion page of directors.

Oltmann said he was banned from Twitter after exposing Coomer.

Oltmann also told the Gateway Pundit that Coomer's profile is in fact being completely "scrubbed from the Internet."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/IbqNLx1KXDw


[Nov 23, 2020] Swiping the dirt under the rug

Nov 23, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Pennsylvania Legislative Committee Shuts Down Election Audit Request 3,782

A Luzerne County worker canvases ballots that arrived after closing of voting until Friday at 5 p.m. and postmarked by Nov. 3rd as vote counting in the general election continues, Friday, Nov. 6, 2020, in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)
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JOSHUA CAPLAN 23 Nov 2020 1,738 3:08

Pennsylvania state lawmakers on Monday turned down a formal call for the 2020 election to undergo an audit as President Donald Trump continues to challenge the key battleground state's election results.

PennLive.com reports:

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A bipartisan, bicameral legislative service agency on Monday, in a rare move, rejected a request from the House of Representatives to conduct a statistical-level review of the conduct of 2020 general election. The Legislative Budget & Finance Committee officers voted 2-1 against performing the "risk-limiting" audit that was ordered by House Resolution 1100 . That resolution, sponsored by Rep. Jesse Topper, R-Bedford County, passed the House on Thursday by a 112-90 vote, with all Republican members and three Democrats supporting it. [ ] Sen. Jim Brewster and Rep. Jake Wheatley, both Allegheny County Democrats, voted against taking on the audit. Sen. Bob Mensch, R-Montgomery County, favored the committee accept the assignment. Rep. Steve Barrar, R-Delaware County, who is retiring from the House at the end of this month, didn't participate in the Zoom meeting.

During the committee hearing, the Democrat members criticized the idea of conducting an audit to validate Pennsylvania's election results.

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"I'm at a loss as to what the purpose of the resolution is and why it's even necessary if the work is going to be done" by state counties, said Brewster.

"I really would suggest there are other ways to validate our election results," Wheatley added.

Conversely, Pennsylvania state Rep. Jesse Topper (R) argued that an audit would ensure "a statistical level of confidence in not only the outcome of this past election, but [also] ensure trust in all future elections here in the commonwealth."

"I'm disappointed that the fact they thought it was going to be too difficult and too much work dissuaded them from doing what I think is absolutely necessary for us to move forward with changes," Topper stated. "Anybody who [thinks] on either side changes don't need to be made to the process after what we saw in the days leading up to, during, the day of, and the days after the election is simply not engaged in reality."

"The Department of State is currently involved in litigation concerning this election and their role in providing a lot of the confusion that went on," he added. "Now we'll have to figure out a different path forward."

Last week, Gov. Tom Wolf (D) claimed that the legislative-request audit was pointless.

Wolf said in a statement: "The Legislative Budget Finance Committee has no expertise or role in election administration and no statutory authority outside the fiscal realm, and it is inappropriate to pretend it does. An audit by the LBFC would be incomplete, duplicative and unreliable." Bry 4 hours ago

What are they afraid of?

94 Reply Share › Avatar Mason Buschkopf Bry 4 hours ago

The same thing all criminals are afraid of, being exposed, going to prison, dropping the soap, that sort of thing. R@bbit61 Bry 4 hours ago

That's exactly the point. If there's nothing to hide, if there's no evidence of fraud, if this was such an open and honest election, why are they so dead set against finding out? If you want to be seen as guilty of something, act like it and this is exactly what they're doing. John Wayne R@bbit61 2 hours ago

They are scared of all the skeletons that will be exposed under such scrutiny. Not Buying It R@bbit61 4 hours ago

34 cases tossed out and no fraud wins. They are afraid of lying in a court of law.

18 4 Reply Share › Avatar Rick Crosley Not Buying It 2 hours ago

democrat judges

20 2 Reply Share › Avatar kai savage Rick Crosley an hour ago

Not to mention, Vichy RINO's. dibbledobble1 kai savage 19 minutes ago

"Vichy" is a good descriptor for these cruds. I would go as far as "Quislings" too.

[Nov 23, 2020] Here Is The Evidence

Nov 23, 2020 | hereistheevidence.com
Significance Claim State URL Type Timestamp Admissibility
1 - Voting Legislation
4 PA court rules against post-election vote curing Pennsylvania Source Court Ruling 12/11/2020 07:30 PM 4
2 Voting machine vendors are without regulation or security standards Nationwide Source Court Ruling 14/11/2020 04:51 PM 1
1 45 day after election, federal official assess if foreign governments had any effect Nationwide Source Document 16/11/2020 06:46 PM 4
2 - Illegal Votes
4* 353 counties in 29 states have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens Nationwide Source Material 19/11/2020 09:53 AM 4
4 32.6% of 1706 sample received absentee ballots without their request Pennsylvania Source Material 17/11/2020 08:07 PM 3
4 Rejected absentee ballots: 3.5% in 2018 to 0.3% in 2020 despite 500% more votes Georgia Source Statistical 14/11/2020 07:08 PM 4
4 66% of dead registered voters, born between 1800 and 1899, voted Pennsylvania Source Material 15/11/2020 01:38 PM 4
4 3,000 instances of alleged voter fraud filed with AG by Nevada GOP Nevada Source Witness 16/11/2020 11:14 AM 4
4 18,000 mail-in ballots didn't have a "Mailed Date" only a return date after Nov 3rd Pennsylvania Source Material 16/11/2020 12:40 PM 4
4 PA DoS removed signature verification from all mail-in ballots Pennsylvania Source Court Ruling 16/11/2020 01:49 PM 4
4 132,000 "Change of Address" flags in single GA county Georgia Source Material 16/11/2020 02:03 PM 4
4 "X" used for signatures for in fraudulent voter registrations Pennsylvania Source Witness 16/11/2020 06:29 PM 3
4 9,626 vote error discovered by recount monitor Georgia Source Witness 18/11/2020 03:29 PM 4
4 6,000 illegal votes in NV, according to NV District Attorney Nevada Source Material 17/11/2020 05:11 AM 4
4 1,600+ voters born 1800 and 1900 voted by mail in NC North Carolina Source Document 17/11/2020 12:07 AM 4
4 8,000 voter application submitted by couple on behalf of homeless and the dead California Source Material 18/11/2020 06:33 PM 3
4 223,000 intractable mail-in ballots sent to wrong addresses Nevada Source Material 18/11/2020 07:23 PM 4
4 109,421 mail-in ballots were "returned" for counting before they were mailed Pennsylvania Source Material 18/11/2020 09:02 PM 4
4 15,000 Nevada voters suspected to have also voted outside state Nevada Source Material 18/11/2020 11:36 AM 3
4 Claim that Maiden name was used to vote in election Nationwide Source Witness 16/11/2020 11:21 PM 1
4 2,000 ballots found in single sweep, despite numerous prior sweeps Pennsylvania Source Material 18/11/2020 10:03 PM 4
4 9,500 dead people returned mail-in ballots Michigan Source Material 18/11/2020 10:17 PM 4
4 834 counts of mail-in voter fraud prosecuted by OAG since 2004 Texas Source Court Ruling 19/11/2020 12:40 AM 4
4 40 of CO's 64 counties have more voter registrations than voting-age citizens Colorado Source Material 19/11/2020 10:01 AM 4
4 40,875+ ballots were cast in the name of another voter without their concent Pennsylvania Source Statistical 20/11/2020 04:09 AM 4
4 Determining the legality of a ballot is "optional" for absentee counting boards Michigan Source Document 21/11/2020 12:54 PM 4
4 135 AVBC precincts have 0 registered voters, leaving 173k untraceable votes Michigan Source Document 21/11/2020 12:56 PM 4
3 1994: Judge rules Democrat stole State Senate election in Philadelphia scheme Pennsylvania Source Historical Context 14/11/2020 04:42 PM 4
3 95% registered voter turnout in Philadelphia Pennsylvania Source Statistical 15/11/2020 11:51 AM 4
3 Jill Stein contested the results in 3 states 2016 for similar irregularities Nationwide Source Historical Context 16/11/2020 12:09 PM 4
3 1,298 proven instances of voter fraud with 1,121 criminal convictions Nationwide Source Historical Context 16/11/2020 12:11 PM 4
3 500 absentee ballots missing, never delivered by postal service Minnesota Source Document 17/11/2020 05:56 PM 4
3 143,379 vote dump at 3:42am had a 93% leaning towards single candidate Wisconsin Source Statistical 18/11/2020 11:44 PM 4
2 US decried Ukraine election due to expelled observers, mail-in ballots and 90% turnout Nationwide Source Historical Context 12/11/2020 10:14 PM 4
2 PA Auditors Warned of Dead People, Duplicates on State Voter Rolls Pennsylvania Source Historical Context 12/11/2020 10:34 PM 3
2 NYT FLASHBACK: Error and fraud at issue as absentee voting rises (2012) Nationwide Source Historical Context 13/11/2020 08:31 AM 3
2 782 more votes than than registered voters in Detroit from 2016 election Michigan Source Historical Context 14/11/2020 04:32 PM 4
2 Biden's Mail-in votes dramatically fail Benford Test Atlanta, all others pass. Georgia Source Statistical 16/11/2020 11:00 AM 2
2 Statistical anomalies in multiple states have a time correlation Nationwide Source Statistical 16/11/2020 06:36 PM 2
2 95% of Bellwether counties break voting pattern, creating statistical anomaly Nationwide Source Statistical 18/11/2020 11:56 PM 2
2 Lowest recorded mail-in ballot rejection rate in swing states Nationwide Source Statistical 19/11/2020 12:50 AM 3
2 139 unexplainable discrepancies in Clark County Commission race Georgia Source Material 19/11/2020 12:55 AM 3
2 Benford Analysis shows irregular Nationwide Source Statistical 19/11/2020 07:50 PM 2
1 FL precinct reports more than 100% voter turnout due to UCF Florida Source Material 12/11/2020 10:47 PM 1
1 Joe Biden states he put together the most "extensive... voter fraud organization" Nationwide Source Photo/Audio/Video 16/11/2020 11:57 AM 1
1 19,888 counterfeit U.S. driver's licenses from China seized by authorities Illinois Source Document 16/11/2020 02:14 PM 1
1 Double mail-in ballot received by around 1000 voters Virginia Source Document 16/11/2020 09:18 PM 3
1 Double mail-in ballots received by serval dozen voters Virginia Source Document 16/11/2020 09:20 PM 3
1 GA Secretary of State withholds ballot image from public viewing Georgia Source Document 19/11/2020 12:02 AM 1
1 Campaign offical ask for volenteers to track down ballot in PA Wisconsin Source Photo/Audio/Video 20/11/2020 10:47 AM 2
3 - Polling Place Irregularities
4 500 sworn affidavits and 11,000 reports of irregularities Nationwide Source Witness 12/11/2020 12:47 PM 4
4 234 pages of sworn affidavits for election irregularities from single county Michigan Source Witness 12/11/2020 10:26 PM 4
4 Pre-canvassing ballots in some counties weeks early, violating election laws Pennsylvania Source Witness 14/11/2020 05:19 PM 4
4 Poll observers forced to use binoculars to watch voting process, despite court order Pennsylvania Source Photo/Audio/Video 16/11/2020 06:45 PM 3
4 Recount protocol breached by workers silently passing on ballots Georgia Source Witness 18/11/2020 03:27 PM 4
4 39% of 1137 Republican ballots never arrived for counting, despite being mailed. Pennsylvania Source Material 17/11/2020 08:11 PM 3
4 2,600 new votes found in county's recount Georgia Source Material 18/11/2020 04:43 PM 4
4 70% of Detroit's 134 absentee counting boards had unexplained counting errors Michigan Source Digital (aka Glitch) 17/11/2020 07:43 PM 4
4 72% of Detroit's absentee ballot counts were off, Canvassers discovers Michigan Source Digital (aka Glitch) 17/11/2020 07:44 PM 4
4 200,000 mail-in ballots cast with the unverifyable "indefinitely confined" status Wisconsin Source Material 18/11/2020 06:48 PM 4
4 Observers forced to stand 30 feet away from ballot counting, despite state laws Pennsylvania Source Witness 18/11/2020 09:42 PM 3
4 Polling place illegally handed out handed out gift cards for absentee ballots Nevada Source Photo/Audio/Video 18/11/2020 07:50 PM 3
4 Poll Challengers were kick out for challenging suspect ballots Michigan Source Photo/Audio/Video 18/11/2020 10:27 PM 3
4 Recount monitors unable to track multiple tables with constant recount errors Georgia Source Witness 19/11/2020 01:08 AM 3
3 State and Election Officials acted against ballot curing Court Order Pennsylvania Source Witness 12/11/2020 09:32 PM 4
3 NV whistleblower describes Biden van vote factory Nevada Source Witness 12/11/2020 10:03 PM 4
3 89% failure rate with verifying signatures in Clark county Nevada Source Statistical 14/11/2020 05:11 PM 3
3 Dems receive new election after affidavits show an absentee ballot scheme North Carolina Source Historical Context 15/11/2020 01:06 PM 4
3 Dominion IT worker submits affidavit describing poll workers signing ballots Michigan Source Expert Witness 16/11/2020 11:15 AM 4
3 List of poll watchers being denied entry Pennsylvania Source Unlawful procedures 16/11/2020 10:56 PM 2
3 9,000 ballot counting error caught by recount moderators Georgia Source Material 18/11/2020 10:53 PM 4
3 6 recount monitors witness batches of ballots appearing to be marked by machines Georgia Source Witness 18/11/2020 11:09 PM 4
3 GOP Reps certified election on as an attempted to protecting their families Michigan Source Witness 19/11/2020 09:38 AM 4
2 FEC chair believes there may be fraud since observers banned Nationwide Source Expert Witness 12/11/2020 09:02 PM 2
2 MI state senators request a full audit of the election Michigan Source Expert Witness 12/11/2020 09:56 PM 4
2 Memory sticks used to program Philly's voting machines, stolen from warehouse Pennsylvania Source Witness 14/11/2020 04:54 PM 4
2 1 monitor for 10 tables of counters in recount Georgia Source Document 14/11/2020 05:07 PM 2
2 Detroit contracted poll workers from firm owned by key figure in corruption case Michigan Source Material 14/11/2020 06:40 PM 2
2 Poll worker instructed to adjust the mailing date of absentee ballot packages Michigan Source Witness 16/11/2020 06:35 PM 4
2 2,349 undated ballots counted after Board of Elections voted 2-1 against Elections Code Pennsylvania Source Material 17/11/2020 08:33 AM 4
2 200,000 ballots counted without human verification Nevada Source Witness 18/11/2020 07:56 PM 2
2 Email from Election Official Stressing Issues with Voters Using Sharpies Arizona Source Document 18/11/2020 02:44 PM 4
4 - Discarded or Destroyed Ballots
2 Ballot envelopes visibly identify the voter's party affiliation Florida Source Material 19/11/2020 09:39 PM 2
1 Discarded Mail-in Ballots Found Outside ATM California Source Material 11/11/2020 10:16 PM 1
1 Found Navy ballot envelopes in the dumpster. Georgia Source Material 11/11/2020 10:20 PM 1
1 18 mail-in ballots stolen from mailboxes Arizona Source Material 16/11/2020 09:01 PM 3
1 1,314 pieces of mail discard in wood by USPS working New York Source Material 19/11/2020 09:33 PM 1
5 - Voting Machine Irregularities
4 Dominion manual states high risk vulnerabilities, remedy is invalidate election Nationwide Source Document 14/11/2020 06:22 PM 4
4 Computer scientist proves voting systems can be hacked to steal votes Nationwide Source Expert Witness 14/11/2020 06:35 PM 4
4 Electronic voting systems rely on abandoned operating systems in PA counties Pennsylvania Source Digital (aka Glitch) 14/11/2020 07:00 PM 4
4 Electronic voting unprotected, has little accountability and not transparent Nationwide Source Expert Witness 14/11/2020 07:33 PM 1
4 CISA only did a critical product evaluation (CPE) on some vendor supplied systems Nationwide Source Document 16/11/2020 10:55 AM 2
4 ES&S misrepresented their machines as EAC Certified to US officials Nationwide Source Document 16/11/2020 11:10 AM 4
4 15,000 ballots found on flash drive after first being rejection by software filters Virginia Source Digital (aka Glitch) 16/11/2020 08:51 PM 4
4 Scanning results incorrect and officials unsure if it was hardware or software Georgia Source Digital (aka Glitch) 18/11/2020 10:08 PM 4
4 2,755 ballots found on memory card by recount auditors Georgia Source Digital (aka Glitch) 18/11/2020 11:30 PM 4
3 6,000 unofficial votes incorrectly show as votes for other candidate Michigan Source Witness 11/11/2020 10:10 PM 3
3 TX Officials rejected Dominion due to security concerns Texas Source Expert Witness 12/11/2020 09:37 PM 4
3 CIA expert explains how most electronic voting isn't secure Nationwide Source Expert Witness 14/11/2020 06:42 PM 3
3 Voting machine firm used in US: Venezuela vote rigged "without any doubt" Nationwide Source Historical Context 14/11/2020 06:48 PM 4
3 Litigation Smartmatic "glitches" alleges impacted in two Philippine elections Nationwide Source Historical Context 14/11/2020 06:56 PM 4
3 Voting machine "glitches" in Toronto election in Canada Nationwide Source Historical Context 16/11/2020 11:08 AM 3
2 PA DoS requested a function from Dominion to re-mark and re-scan ballots Pennsylvania Source Document 12/11/2020 10:20 PM 3
2 Confidential: Smartmatic is web of holding companies, suspected of fraud Nationwide Source Document 16/11/2020 10:27 AM 4
2 Dominion Security Chief states he "made sure" Trump would not win Nationwide Source Witness 16/11/2020 11:47 AM 2
2 93% of errors go unnoticed by users of ballot marking devices security Nationwide Source Statistical 16/11/2020 06:03 PM 2
2 Dominion licenses it's software to Smartmatic Nationwide Source Photo/Audio/Video 17/11/2020 12:08 PM 4
2 Dominion and Smartmatic have had contracts outside of public knowledge Nationwide Source Historical Context 17/11/2020 12:14 PM 3
2 Votes erased from memory card and story withheld from press Maryland Source Historical Context 18/11/2020 08:19 PM 3
2 1,127 ballots wrongly labeled through technical glitch Michigan Source Digital (aka Glitch) 16/11/2020 10:15 PM 2
2 Vulnerabilities give access to change the "Official" Databases Nationwide Source Expert Witness 18/11/2020 09:28 PM 2
6 - General
4 30 times lower rejection rate for mail-in ballots than in 2016 Pennsylvania Source Statistical 16/11/2020 06:49 PM 2
2 Dem Rep intimidates GOP Rep by insinuating his kids will become a public target Michigan Source Photo/Audio/Video 18/11/2020 04:30 PM 3
2 84,108 mail-in ballots were not counted or invalidated New York Source Material 18/11/2020 07:35 PM 2
2 20 seniors voted for canidate under pressure Wisconsin Source Witness 16/11/2020 09:23 PM 3
1 2016: GA had evidence that DoHS IP address tried to hack voter database Georgia Source Historical Context 14/11/2020 06:12 PM 1
1 Google searches for 'election fraud punishment,' increased ahead of election Nationwide Source Statistical 16/11/2020 10:33 PM 1

[Nov 23, 2020] Anybody that looks at the rest of this is going to see that something happened, but no one is going to be able to figure it out. That's your objective, to make it so convoluted that anyone can have a theory, but no one's got the facts

Nov 23, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

JM Gavin , 22 November 2020 at 12:10 PM

A remarkably appropriate movie scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fbw4Fj-ax8

"Anybody that looks at the rest of this is going to see that something happened, but no one is going to be able to figure it out. That's your objective, to make it so convoluted that anyone can have a theory, but no one's got the facts."

-Jedburgh (that's Captain Jedburgh to you, Senator)
The Edge of Darkness, 2010

Eric Newhill , 22 November 2020 at 02:50 PM

This is extremely serious business, obviously. I expect massive social unrest being unleashed if it starts gaining legal traction/looks like the evidence is going to work.

Very dangerous times perhaps for all of us.

I too await the evidence.

blue peacock , 22 November 2020 at 02:55 PM

There are allegations and then there are requirements to provide irrefutable evidence to a state court that there is material fraud that would change the outcome of the election in the state. My money is not on the Honey Badger to meet the state courts test. Who believes that SCOTUS would be willing to buck the "realpolitik" of the situation and send the Democrat run cities into riots unless there is incontrovertible evidence that a fraud overturned the election results in many states? Why would they risk the media-driven hysteria that they are a partisan court?

The Republican party is not gonna back Trump all the way through the media hysteria. They've got what they wanted with a stronger position in the House and likely a majority in the Senate after the GA senate runoffs. They'll get back to "old-fashioned" partisan status quo horse-trading and prepare for the 2022 mid-terms. The oligarchy have been the big winner and they'll continue to press their advantage.

Trump is on his own. His MAGA soldiers have shown no propensity to create the mayhem that Antifa did. He'll have time to reflect on what may have been if he's unable to prevail in the courts. Should he have hired the Swamp in his term to all the key positions? Should he have used the powers of POTUS more aggressively with declassification? He still has a few weeks to give the Swamp a big FU by pardoning Snowden and Assange. His Twitter platform may very well be cancelled or throttled. How is he going to continue to suck up the media oxygen? The Democrats, could very well get him all on the defense with prosecutions for tax violations. A very interesting question is what happens to the 72 million people that voted for him? Will they remain loyal for another run in 2024 or will another more competent & ruthless candidate come along to capture their imagination?

[Nov 23, 2020] Trump Campaign Appeals Pennsylvania Mail-In Ballots Case as State on Verge of Certifying Election Results

Nov 23, 2020 | www.msn.com

The appeal, filed Sunday, came about 24 hours after District Court Judge Matthew Brann issued a ruling that tossed out allegations included in the Trump campaign's legal complaint. In his decision, Brann noted that attorneys failed to provide sufficient evidence supporting their insistent claims that misconduct on the part of elections officials gave Joe Biden his projected presidential win.

[Nov 23, 2020] 2 Charged With Voter Fraud, Allegedly Submitted 8,000 Fraudulent Registration Applications

Nov 23, 2020 | www.theepochtimes.com

2 Charged With Voter Fraud, Allegedly Submitted 8,000 Fraudulent Registration Applications BY JACK PHILLIPS November 17, 2020 Updated: November 18, 2020 Print

Two men were arrested and charged in Southern California on voter fraud charges after they allegedly submitted thousands of fraudulent voter registration applications on behalf of homeless people, said the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office on Tuesday.

Carlos Antonio De Bourbon Montenegro, 53, and Marcos Raul Arevalo, 34, were charged with one count each of conspiracy to commit voter fraud, eight counts of voter fraud, four counts of procuring and offering a false or forged instrument, and other charges, said the DA's office in a news release .

The office said Montenegro allegedly submitted more than "8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications between July and October 2020." He's also accused of falsifying names, signatures, and addresses on nomination papers "under penalty of perjury to run for mayor in the city of Hawthorne."

Montenegro also faces another 10 counts of voter fraud, seven counts of procuring and offering a false or forged instrument, two counts of perjury, and five misdemeanor counts of interference with a prompt transfer of a completed affidavit, the office said.

If convicted, Montenegro can face as many as 15 years and eight months in prison, while Arevalo could face seven years in prison, officials noted.

The FBI, District Attorney's office, the Los Angeles Public Integrity Division, and other agencies are investigating the case.

Other details about the case are not clear. It's also not clear if their alleged voter fraud scheme affected the presidential election in some way.

It's not clear if either Montenegro or Arevalo have lawyers.

According to local news outlet The Daily Breeze in a report in August, Montenegro, who was running for mayor in Hawthorne, had "turned in paperwork to run for mayor but failed to meet the required 20 signatures by Hawthorne residents."

Over the past two weeks, since the Nov. 3 election, President Donald Trump's campaign and other Republicans have raised questions about voter fraud and irregularities that may have tipped the presidential race to Democratic candidate Joe Biden. The president's team has filed several lawsuits in key states including Pennsylvania, Georgia, and other places, while citing sworn statements made by hundreds of witnesses.

The Department of Homeland Security's cyber-security division, in a statement last week, said the past election was the "most secure" in history. Meanwhile, secretaries of state have disputed Trump's claims of fraud.

However, the chairman of the Federal Elections Commission (FEC), Trey Trainor told Newsmax several days ago that he believes "that there is voter fraud taking place in these places." Trainor, in a tweet , said a recent claim from Trump lawyer Sidney Powell about his team being able to overturn the election with their cases should be taken seriously.

[Nov 23, 2020] Subverting verification of mail-in ballots signatures by political hacks is very easy

Nov 23, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Deap , 22 November 2020 at 04:20 PM

Our county in Calif which uses Dominion software admitted only 40% of the signatures can be validated by machine. The rest must be hand validated.

When you all the sudden have a massive number of "signed" mail in ballots to process, and the original envelopes got tossed, how does anyone get to observer or double check the mail-in ballots, once they have been severed from the signed envelope?

Known weaknesses like this can or will be exploited, so the burden falls on the election department to prove fraud or even incompetent handling of ballots could never take place. They cannot even claim any "mistakes" were in a reasonable margin of error.

There can never be a perfect election; but there are degrees of imperfect ones. This potential voting corruption was off the charts since this was such a heavy mail-in vote this year. When numbers of mail-in ballots, as in the past, do not rise to a material level then one can claim "mistakes" would not have affected the outcome regardless.

But this time? Whole different story.

[Nov 23, 2020] I I live in MA. My son lived in Philly briefly, but that was several years ago. On Nov 3 the DNC left multiple messages on my voicemail asking me to vote in PA.

Nov 23, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

I I live in MA. I have an old fashioned landline phone and have had my current number since the 1990s.

My son lived in Philly briefly, but that was several years ago.

On Nov 3 the

Richard W , 22 November 2020 at 11:32 AM


I I live in MA. I have an old fashioned landline phone and have had my current number since the 1990s.

My son lived in Philly briefly, but that was several years ago.

On Nov 3 the DNC left multiple messages on my voicemail asking me to vote in PA.

Posted by: Richard W | 22 November 2020 at 11:32 AM

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[Nov 23, 2020] Turning constituents into voters

Nov 23, 2020 | defyccc.com

There are those who always vote, those who never vote and those who may or may not vote. Maximizing voter turnout in the third group is the holy grail of the electoral official."

It is a holy grail of a leftist agitator. The US law recognizes a citizen's freedom not to vote as equal to the voting for a candidate of his or her choosing. Some people do not vote because they do not care, some because they do not know which candidate to choose, and some because they are angry at the society. Abstractly speaking, reluctant voters are not helpful to democratic process, just like reluctant jurors are not helpful for court proceedings. Practically, voter mobilization (from the word 'mob' ) is a tactic of the Left. People who do not care, or lack knowledge, or are angry, can be easily convinced to vote for the Left. Continue reading Dominion Voting Systems Corp →

[Nov 23, 2020] Dominion Voting Systems is Caught

Nov 23, 2020 | defyccc.com

November 13, 2020 -d , Big Tech , cybersecurity , dems , Dominion - , extra , long

Dominion Voting Systems' Democracy Suite has features that allow for election results manipulation. The back-end software has an elections results editor, called Results Tally and Reporting ( RTR ). Its users are election officials. RTR is an equivalent of Microsoft Excel, but for election results. The software allows its users to enter "election results" from removable memory cards, local file system, and network. It allows you to merge multiple election results files. It allows the users to manually edit election result files. It allows users to reject election results files. In other words, it allows arbitrary change of results.

RTR runs not on a voting machine, but on an ordinary Windows laptop, which can be connected to the Internet, and even controlled remotely.

The Dominion's training video ( https://www.dominionvoting.com/training/rtr/index.html ) has a subsection Flexible management of results after the election occurred (starting at 4:20). Look at a few screenshots from it: Continue reading Dominion Voting Systems is Caught →

[Nov 23, 2020] Shocking History of Dominion Voting

Nov 23, 2020 | defyccc.com

Technical Vulnerabilities of EVS Systems

The voting software developers can easily insert code, changing numbers in favor of or against one candidate. No hacking is necessary. The malicious code can be designed to pass tests and to be triggered only at the time of a real election, automatically or manually. Both case are possible even the the machine is disconnected from the internet and has no ordinary I/O devices. The malicious code can be activated manually in real time by inserting a ballot or another paper with a pre-defined QR or image code. An audit of the source code is necessary, but not sufficient. Dominion software runs on Windows, and the malicious code can be hidden in any part of the operating system. Malicious code can be hidden in the firmware, too.

If a state wants to take risks and to rely on testing and the source code audit, they should be conducted with the participation of technically competent representatives of both parties. If the system passes testing and auditing, the machine image must be securely stored. All supplied machines must have exactly the same hardware and the software as the audited system.

As far as I know, thorough tests and source code audits are conducted very rarely, if at all. Further, the vendors are not required to use only the audited image, and are allowed to update the software almost at will. That means that election commissions are forced to blindly trust the vendors. Blind trust is always wrong and invites abuse. But even "trust but verify" is applicable only to trustworthy vendors. Dominion Voting is the opposite of trustworthy.

The only real solution to the vulnerability of EVS is not to use them at all. Manual ballot counting has no software vulnerabilities, and is much cheaper. Virginia appears to be the only state that decided to use only manual ballots.

... ... ...

In August 2009 (corrected), the rough breakdown of the EVS market in the US was (per Brad Friedman ):

40% ES&S

30% Diebold/Premier

20% Sequoia/Smartmatic

10% Hart Intercivic

 0% Dominion Voting

Less than a year later, after the "antitrust" actions of Obama's DOJ, it became:

50% Dominion

40% ES&S (restricted in competing against Dominion)

10% Hart Intercivic

Thus, the DOJ's actions did the exact opposite of its words.

An elections system vendor should be non-partisan, in a demonstrable way. Dominion is not just partisan, but hyper-partisan in favor of the Democrat party, or even its pocket vendor.

Dominion has many more ties to the Democrat party and its prominent supporters in the US and abroad, which are not covered in this article.

Software Development in Serbia

Dominion develops much of its software in Belgrade, Serbia. Russia is a close friend to Serbia, if not its only one. If anybody sincerely thought that Putin wanted to hack American elections, their first location of interest would be the offices of Dominion Voting in Belgrade, rather than the Trump Tower in New York.

By the way, Serbian and Russian languages use the Cyrillic alphabet. Most letters have the same Unicode encoding in Serbian and Russian (the Basic Multilingual Plane, range 0410-04FF ). If any election officials found Cyrillic text on a Dominion voting machine in 2016, it was probably left by its developers in Serbia.

Remarks

This is the Agreement between Michigan & Dominion , including specs of many Dominion products (PDF, 161 pages). Wi-Fi connection and even a dial up modem are offered as an option.

Some of the companies referenced here as foreign based or foreign originating re-registered in the US.

Dominion Voting Systems Series
Part I
Part II (this)
Part III

Pekařová November 22, 2020 at 4:10 am

Just few thougts
Dominion develops much of its software in Belgrade, Serbia. Russia is a close friend to Serbia
At the time when ten SW was developing, Serbia had long beenin the hands of Germany and the EU. Which is the same as writing in the hands of Soros and his NGO. Written Serbian is more similar to neighboring Greek than Russian, and this also applies to Cyrillic.

[Nov 23, 2020] Eric Coomer and Dominions

Nov 23, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

eakens , 22 November 2020 at 11:40 AM

A previous head of Dominions software was one Eric Coomer. He is a member or avid supporter of Antifa, depending on how you view the group.

The same Eric Coomer was previously a skinhead when he was at Berkeley, based on ok'd message board posts.

Google Eric Coomer Skinhead and view some of what comes up online.

From skinhead to Antifa? He is now apparently nowhere to be found. Seems to me at least, that there may be a chance he may be CIA and that this may have been a domestic op to get rid of Trump.

eakens , 22 November 2020 at 12:00 PM

Here are some sources as well:

https://hereistheevidence.com/

[Nov 23, 2020] If we assume that Venezuela is somehow connected to Dominion,that makes deploying these machines in the US a electoral crime.

Nov 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Featherless , Nov 22 2020 18:18 utc | 26

An idea just occurred to me that might explain the "Dominion machines/Venezuela" connection :

If Venezuela is widely (bipartisanly) considered "electoral fraudsters", that taints these machines.

That makes IMPLEMENTING these machines a few years later in the US a WILLFUL electoral crime.


Featherless , Nov 22 2020 19:17 utc | 35

bevin, you're missing my point.

Here's an analogy : imagine the blues and reds both agree that I am a notorious thief, even if it's only a false narrative. Then they hire me as a security guard. That would be willfully, knowingly hiring a criminal, which would be criminal, not because of the facts, but because of the logic.

Stonebird , Nov 22 2020 19:37 utc | 38

A couple of thoughts about the Venzuela gambit. Evidently Tucker Carson wanted Sydney to tell him all about the "Dominion" vote flipping in a public interview. Which would have been tantamount to giving away all the potential Republican case, and given the Democrats prior knowledge of what to expect. A no-go. Mentioning "Venezuela-Cuba" could have the effect of heading off a direct civil war if the US Dems and Repubs have a" common enemy" to blame. (Too late for Russia, China too touchy, not many other major targets). Note that Venezuela has a paper trail created at the same time as the electronic vote...

[Nov 23, 2020] Interesting interview with Sidney Powell on Newsmax where she discusses voter fraud committed with Dominion

Nov 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 22 2020 17:58 utc | 22

Interesting interview with Sidney Powell on Newsmax where she discusses voter fraud committed with Dominion

https://youtu.be/Y68pEknYyCM

[Nov 23, 2020] HBO's John Oliver Called It 'Completely Insane' to Use Electronic Voting Machines in Nov. 2019

Nov 23, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

"They are very bad. If something goes wrong with one of them, you would basically never know, because you can't audit the results. And things have gone wrong," John Oliver said. "In one local New Jersey election, a husband and wife were both running for seats on their county's Democratic committee. The DRE machines said that they lost, but they were in the unusual position of actually knowing that that was a mistake."

Watch Below:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/svEuG_ekNT0?start=902&feature=oembed

"In one local New Jersey election, a husband and wife were both running for seats on their county's Democratic committee," Oliver continued. "The DRE machines said that they lost, but they were in the unusual position of actually knowing that that was a mistake."

The talk show host then played a news clip of the couple -- Ernest and Cynthia Zirkle -- explaining what had happened.

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"I knew 33 of the people that voted for us, and we lost 33 to 10, and I knew that that wasn't the case," said Cynthia Zirkle.

The results had been switched with those of their opponents.

"We started calling people that we thought we knew voted for us, because it was just a in this district of this township, and we know everybody in this district," added Ernest Zirkle.

Oliver noted it was true that Cynthia Zirkle had "literally went around and got signed affidavits from people saying that they had voted for her."

"The fact is, unless you happen to personally know everyone who votes for you on a paperless DRE machine, there is no way to know the results," he said. "It's a pretty good case against them, which makes it, frankly, completely insane that New Jersey not only still uses them, but plans to keep using them for the 2020 election."

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"And it's not just New Jersey, in 2016, 20 percent of voters voted on paperless DREs, and an estimated 12 percent will use them in 2020, meaning 16 million Americans, spread out across all these states, are set to be voting on machines that pretty much everyone agrees are deeply, deeply flawed," Oliver continued. "And if they malfunction, there could be no way of knowing, which is absolutely terrifying. What we have to do here is obvious, it's so obvious, in fact, even this guy understands it."

John Oliver then played a clip of President Donald Trump explaining why it is important to have a paper backup system with regards to voting.

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"He's right. That's it. He's just all the way, completely right," said Oliver.

Dominion Voting Systems -- which has faced scrutiny in the wake of the 2020 presidential election -- has an ImageCast X model, which can be deployed as either a Ballot Marking Device (BMD) or a Direct Recording Electronic Device (DRE), according to The Verified Voting Foundation .

While Oliver has made his case for why he believes DREs are dangerous, Verified Voting has also explained why it believes BMDs can be as well.

In 2019, Verified Voting clarified its position regarding the use BMDs in elections:

Verified Voting believes that voters should vote on paper ballots, but we recognize an important distinction between hand-marked and machine-marked ballots. Hand-marked paper ballots are not subject to inaccuracies or manipulation from software bugs or malicious code. In contrast, machine-marked paper ballots produced using BMDs might not accurately capture voter intent if the software or ballot configuration is buggy or malicious.

Verified Voting specifically opposes the purchase and deployment of new voting systems in which all in-person voters in a polling place are expected to use BMDs. The trustworthiness of an election conducted using BMDs depends critically on how many voters actually verify their ballots, and how carefully they do it. All voters who vote on BMDs should be made aware of the importance of carefully and conscientiously verifying their ballots before casting them, and should be actively encouraged to do so. However, empirical research thus far shows that few voters using BMDs carefully verify their printed ballots. Moreover, if voters do verify BMD-marked ballots and find what they believe are discrepancies, there is no reliable way to resolve whether the voters made mistakes or the BMDs did. For these and other reasons (such as cost) Verified Voting recommends that the use of BMDs be minimized.

Verified Voting appeared to have since wiped clean the section of its website clarifying its position on the usage of BMDs, but an Internet archive shows what was displayed on the page in August.

You can follow Alana Mastrangelo on Facebook and Twitter at @ARmastrangelo , on Parler at @alana , and on Instagram .

HalloweenGuy a day ago

It was and is insane.
Voter ID.
Vote in person.
Ballots only.
NOT negotiable.

78 Reply Share › Avatar Allen M. Ease HalloweenGuy a day ago

It is, indeed, completely insane to use electronic voting machines unless the whole idea is to be able to commit massive voter fraud and steal an election.
Some of these machines can be set to throw a set number of --- say Trump votes -- into a certain folder that can just be deleted making all of those votes disappear as if they never existed.
The first video below highlights the couple that John Oliver was talking about:
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A Hacker Shows Us How Easy It Is To Manipulate Voting Machines [2:16]
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On this next one, it shows how many voters are just trusting these machines with EVERYTHING and no paper trail, basically saying to the computer, "Please mark my ballot the way I say and I trust you to do so".
Dominion Voting Machines have the ability to mark a ballot [2:16]
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Electronic Voting Machine hacked by Computer Scientists (AcuVote-TS) [5:21]
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All electronic software can be made to cheat with voter fraud, especially if that is the OBJECTIVE ALL ALONG. ComradeAdam cageysea a day ago

It would depend on the voting machine, a machine can be built that has no real vulnerabilities and no way to change or input to voting data. And paper ballots are only as secure as the people that handle them and count them. The biggest problem with voting machines is that they keep processes of the machine secret so no one can trust what they are doing behind the scenes.
Personally, I think we need voter ID. Then the voting machines print out a paper ballot that you take from the machine over to a ballot box, present your ID for a second time and drop the ballot in the box.
The ballots must match the machines totals and the voter rolls and all partisan observers must agree.

2 Reply Share › Avatar Scottar ComradeAdam a day ago

And every voter gets a ballot copy to verify if election contested.

2 Reply Share › Avatar cageysea ComradeAdam a day ago

Excellent idea. Simple, elegant, and verifiable. The only people who would possibly stand against it are people with something to hide.

Share › Avatar dima dareios HalloweenGuy a day ago

in India, you have all that PLUS you affix your thumbprint to the ballot with indelible ink. The ink (apparently) is hard to wash off so that makes it harder for anyone to vote twice. A beautiful system.

1 Reply Share › Avatar AMD_Afficionado HalloweenGuy a day ago

Where I'm at, we had paper "Scantron" ballots and BMDs. Had a lot of older folk who did the BMD because they didn't think they could fill in the bubbles.

What I thought was odd was that the BMDs we had were designed for blind people but there was no way for blind people to verify their printout as it was just text, not braile.

Worst of all was that able-bodied younger people strideny thought that BMDs were electronic voting and that it was "more secure", so they would become irate when they discovered that they spent 15 minutes using a touch screen to print a ballot that they could've bubbled in 30 seconds by hand.

1 Reply Share › Avatar Southern Wolf HalloweenGuy 8 hours ago

Closing the barn door after the horse is stolen. Why weren't Trump voters and Trump himself anticipating just this sort of election theft before the election? ohn Law Gwynedd a day ago

"It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes."

Joseph Stalin

Share › Avatar Be Happy! Gwynedd a day ago

From John f'n Oliver of all people!

2 Reply Share › Avatar Gwynedd Be Happy! a day ago • edited

Yes. Did it slip out by accident? I've been critical, well more than critical, let's say completely objecting to the use of electronic voting machines for years. As somebody who worked in the tech industry, I realized that there is a belief in the minds of average people, that machines are objective and impersonal and cannot lie or make mistakes. Have you ever challenged somebody when there's an obvious data entry error and they rigidly stick by whatever the machine says versus what you're trying to tell them actually was the situation? Belief in the machine is almost a belief in an infallible oracle. Obviously data can be corrupted and falsified as anybody who has had their accounts hacked should realize. So voting systems that rely on electronics without some form of physical verification are subject to fraud, and any counting system that does not have oversight and is completely hidden from view electronically or otherwise is also subject to fraud or to quote Stalin, it's not who votes it's who counts the votes. Fraud in voting machines has been going on for decades. Even the very old paper punch systems used in the 40s through 80s could be gotten around by simply having certain precincts non-functional during the day and not tell the voters their votes would not be counted. I experienced this frequently in Philadelphia when I lived in a section of the city that did not like the mayor. doormouse a day ago

Where's Durham's report?

10 Reply Share › Avatar ricocat1 doormouse a day ago

Bill Barr did a great job, FOR THE DEMOCRATS, stalling the Durham Report. President Trump has hired a lot of traitors.

4 Reply Share › Avatar libsrnazi ricocat1 a day ago

Deep state is really, really deep...

Trump's mistake was trusting the experience of insiders...

He should have hired nothing but loyal people with no professional political experience, and not assumed those under the heels of the democrats weren't still beholden to them, (if not compromised), even if they publicly seemed to be enemies...

They had been in bed together for a century... Especially the petroleum industry, and Wall Street...

"Corrupted by wealth and power, your government is like a restaurant with only one dish. They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side. But no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen." - Huey Long

"The only difference I ever found between the Democratic leadership and the Republican leadership is that one of them is skinning you from the ankle up and the other, from the ear down." - Huey Long 101010011000 a day ago

Analog voting machines. No more digital!

3 Reply Share › Avatar oldlady 101010011000 a day ago

Why have machines at all? We have until Jan. 20 to seat new winners. What is the rush? Old fashioned hand counting may take longer but it is more secure with proper oversight. We can wait a few days or even weeks if it means honest elections. Networks will just not be calling winners before votes are all tabulated and certified. It is not a horse race and shouldn't be treated as such. Hold your tickets, please, we have a photo finish. We need voter ID and that number matched to each vote. caperick oldlady a day ago

You're right. Any machine is corruptible. Hand counting with verified observers from both parties is totally doable. mrminwnc oldlady a day ago • edited

people act like it's impossible to count 100 million+ votes, but it's not at all. it can be easily done precinct by precinct, then all it takes is an adding machine. the old-fashioned kind, with the paper tape. theresa 12 hours ago

Hay, Hay all you shift for brains!

"Federal Statute Law Title 52 USC 20511: Criminal penalties Text contains
those laws in effect on November 9, 2020

Title 52-VOTING AND ELECTIONS Subtitle
II-Voting Assistance and Election Administration CHAPTER 205-NATIONAL
VOTER REGISTRATION
Criminal penalties
A person, including an election official, who in any election for
Federal office-

(1) knowingly and willfully intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any person for-
(A) registering to vote, or voting, or attempting to register or vote;
(B) urging or aiding any person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register or vote; exercising any right under this chapter; or
(C) exercising any right under this chapter; or

(2) knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to
deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and
impartially conducted election process, by-
(A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the
laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held, shall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both." Thomas737 theresa 12 hours ago • edited

Good. Now let's see how it is applied. Crockett7 a day ago

SOROS, One of the owners of Dominion and SmartMatic too...
Any one of these articles should be good for "Evidence".
Democrat Senators Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden ALL
WARNED the USA about DOMINION being a Security Problem in the Elections!
Even the New York Times warned the US....

This is the DEFINITION of FOREIGN ELECTION INTERFERENCE that the
Democrats Complained about for the past 5 years!!!

https://defyccc.com/shockin ...

https://defyccc.com/shockin ...

https://opslens.com/eric-co ...

https://www.thegatewaypundi...
naughtysheep
a day ago

Paper ballots. On Election Day. In person. Valid ID. If it's that important to people, they will find a way. Limited exceptions (deployed military, etc). Otherwise, make it a PRIORITY. Gary Eaker a day ago

Our Voting Systems are antiquated and insecure.
Complete Makeover Desperately needed.

2 Reply Share › Avatar CFLAP Gary Eaker a day ago

Actually, we need to go backwards BC. Before computers.

[Nov 23, 2020] Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden

Nov 23, 2020 | www.rt.com

Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden win 23 Nov, 2020 00:58 / Updated 46 minutes ago Get short URL Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden win FILE PHOTO © REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst 15 Follow RT on RT Donald Trump's top lawyers disavowed Sidney Powell just three days after she joined them at a presser to help outline the president's election-fraud allegations, and hours after she lobbed fraud allegations at Georgia's governor.

"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," senior Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said on Sunday in a joint statement. "She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

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Giuliani and Ellis gave no explanation for the statement. Trump last week named Powell, a former federal prosecutor, among five well-known lawyers who would lead his legal team in challenging the results of this month's presidential election.

Powell was among three featured speakers when the Trump legal team held a press conference on Thursday to give an overview of its election-fraud cases in key states that the president apparently lost to Democrat rival Joe Biden.

ALSO ON RT.COM 'I'm going to RELEASE THE KRAKEN': Michael Flynn's attorney vows to expose Dem collusion behind prominent voting machine firm

Powell focused largely on accusations that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic election software were fraudulently manipulated to award thousands of fake votes to Biden. Her allegations went deeper, involving allies of the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez owning Dominion and having ties to Democrat billionaire donor George Soros.

But by Thursday night, Powell's story was being challenged by a conservative media superstar, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who said she had brushed off multiple requests to provide evidence of the Dominion-Smartmatic scheme for his show. She also was invited to be interviewed on his show, but "when we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her," Carlson said.

ALSO ON RT.COM Doubling down: Tucker claims other Trump legal team members yet to see evidence on rigged election software from Sidney Powell

Powell responded by saying she told Carlson not to contact her again because he was "very insulting, demanding and rude." She also provided him with an affidavit and referred him to a witness who could help him understand her statistical evidence. Carlson followed up the next night, saying he had heard from Trump sources, including other members of the president's legal team, who said that they hadn't seen Powell's evidence firsthand.

If Powell's allegations in the press conference seemed a little wild, her interview on Saturday night with conservative news outlet Newsmax took the case to another level. She accused Georgia's Republican governor, Brian Kemp, and the state's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, of receiving financial benefits to help Biden win the state's 16 electoral votes.

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"Georgia's probably going to be the first state I'm gonna blow up," Powell said of her planned fraud cases. "And Mr. Kemp and the secretary of state need to go with it because they're in on the Dominion scam." She added that her Georgia lawsuit, which she hopes to file this week, "will be biblical."

ALSO ON RT.COM 'KrakenOnSteroids': Sydney Powell says she 'understands' Trump's lawyers distancing themselves from her, vows to fight on

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pogohere 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:17 PM

Some teams are harder to play on than others. Look at the Flynn case. The US Dep. of Justice surrendered to Powell et. al. and requested that its own case against Flynn be dismissed following the disclosure by Powell's efforts that the DOJ was withholding evidence-- a "Brady rule violation"-- of Flynn's innocence from the defense and the court. Flynn's prestigious Wa DC law firm earlier had Flynn plead guilty. The judge is holding up the dismissal of that case, against all precedent. Powell most likely isn't finished. Neither is The Donald.
GoldMorgsCom 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:31 PM
Giuliani and Ellis intimidated and gearing down? Powell least nervous at the presentation. Usually fraud by (voting)computers escapes the possibility of external proof. But a peculiarity in the Michigan-elections enabled it. See on the site vashiva (Shiva) MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems. Its systematic fraud, save screenshots. Steven J. Miller Ph.D. published his testimony, that about 50'000 mail-in ballots of republicans have disapeared in Pensylvenia and 50'000 absentee ballots have been abused by others (in favor of Biden = +50000). It makes up about 150000 to the disadvantage of Trump in PA. Bidens surplus was about 75000. About Michigan and Pensylvenia it has been published that the number of fraud votes was sufficient for a fraud change of the outcome in favor of "the democrats". The signals are that the same happened in the other critical states . See also -- Trump lawyers allege 'MASSIVE' election fraud, point to sworn statements & efforts to threaten and silence them (VIDEO)-- 19 Nov, 2020 20:30 ( rt-search, on top at the right ) In the first ten minutes it is explained how the "democrat" bosses facilitated huge fraud with absentee ballots. In Pensylvenia 682'000 have been accepted without proper checks and with destroying the evidence of fraud. It is a federal offence not to store all election records (scans), even not collecting them, such as besiding mail-in envelopes and not checking them before opening them.
JingsGeordie 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:18 PM
Disavows? That's twisting the information (edit - they've now changed it to 'distances') From Gen. Flynn's twitter feed - ".@SidneyPowell1 has been suspended from Twitter for 12 hours. She understands the WH press release & agrees with it. She is staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed #WeThePeople of our votes for President Trump & other Republican candidates."
Thesheperd666 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:02 PM
Trump fired Sidney Powell ? That is a huge mistake and might coast him the presidency. Trumps team looks weak now ! Sidney look more confident and much more calmer than Rudy Giuliani. I really don't trust Rudy as much as Sidney, wondering if they are afraid of spoiling the Republic party before the 12th amendment goes to the house for votes ? Either side your on this makes Trumps team look bad, and are starting to make up stories. I think Trump did win by a landslide and this years vote was stolen from the US citizens. Demarcates can breath a little more easier now that Sidney is gone, she was the strongest one on the team. Trump needs more Sidney Powell's not less, I don't trust Rudy nor do I think he has what it takes to win. Trump needs better Lawyers, Rudy is just a celebrity lawyer that will keep his image no matter what ! Trump needs tigers not mice !
anastasia265 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:27 PM
It's not true. She was never a part of that team and had her own funding site. Their strategy was to keep the two matters separate
J_P_Franklin 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:49 PM
Majority of Republicans are and have conspired against Trump since 2016. America First Trumpism is the opposite of Republican open borders/free trade treason.
GoldMorgsCom 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:03 PM
Peculiar is that the German chamber of commerce does not reveal any registration of the Dominions, neither of Smartmatic neither of Scytl neither of Amazone. These have not registrated or their registrations are being hidden on request. So who's prosecution by the German state prosecutors is to be requested?
Gerald Newton 2 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 10:56 PM
Sidney Powell has not released her evidence yet but it is coming. She has an impressive record and probably will crush much of the federal justice system. That is what she does. Read her book, Licensed to Lie. It is about the way federal prosecutors lie to prosecute like they did to Senator Stevens of Alaska.
Swanster6450 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:56 PM
I guess Sidney Powell is finding what happens to people from outside the political loop when they seek to stick their nose in and point out a few inconsistencies. Chucked under a bus is the usual outcome. Julian Assange is also finding out the same thing and, incidentally, so too is Donald Trump. All shafted and all chucked under a bus for pointing out a few inconsistencies.
RTreaderCaribb 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:56 PM
I have one question and one question only: why would Sydney Powell who seems to be very bright and a good lawyer say something of which she would know will be exposed only in less than 14 days to be totally untrue? This makes no sense at all. And so I think we all should pray that this woman does not end up like Jeffrey Epstein. We should take our time. 14 days are nothing in comparison to the endless work she has to put in . And if she cant show any fact for her allegations then we can maybe say something went wrong with her. But right now let this woman work. All this prejudgment in the public court is irritating to me. And if Sidney Powell did the same then yes, she would be irritating to me too. And for Trump: If he can prove voter fraud then he should go to the supreme court. If he cant then at some point he must concede. I guess the latest is December 14th and until then he should just figure out what it is. That is his legal right. And for the American people: if you were so stupid to vote for Biden then please bear the consequences thereof because you will go down the tubes. The man is not well in his head.
allan Kaplan 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:43 PM
Sidney Powell's stamina, her defiance and her antipathy is so real that those who have faced injustice by the hands of the powerful know what it takes to get such bullies sweating. The house of cards of the Democrat commies will come tumbling down once Powell gets to the podium of naming names, dates, places, and their coconspirators et al. I love her tenacity, determination, perseverance and her unflinching boldness that most of the dems are sweating about! Thank you Ms. Powell for a great American tradition and go full speed... the dissenting maverick you are!
GoldMorgsCom 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:27 PM
They are so scared that the president Trump will conduct the great cleansing, to start with removing the authority on the dollar from the Federal Reserve to the usa federal state of the people. They are already blocking the president Trump during four years to keep him from that. They know they can now only keep the president Trump from the great cleansing by removing him from office. They will do more than the high treason of the fraud against the federal elections, to remove the president Trump from office. Eventually they will detonate a smuggled-in nuclear bomb and allegate Russia or fire a missile with a nuclear bomb from an unindentified submarine and allegate Russia. You believe the spread of Covid-19 this year was a coincidense? If Russia is being attacked any more (with allegations) it is a good reason for conducting the great cleansing in Russia. Those probably sly covered Khodorovski-types who are pressing forward (exports of) GMM-injections "against Covid-19" are probably backstabbing Russia; catastrophic future compensation claims on Russia and confiscation of all export-incomes. This is a good reason for conducting the great cleansing out of Russia of all Khodorovski-types. We hope that the reorganized government of Russia will cleanse out all Khodorovski-types, no matter the president Trump will continue office and conduct the great cleansing in the usa or not.
Marlin1091 12 minutes ago 23 Nov, 2020 01:06 AM
Google did and is helping biden. That is why I don't use google any more, I use Yandex and for fackrok I use vk

[Nov 22, 2020] Patrick in SC

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Patrick in SC says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 5:55 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago 400 Words

My gut feeling is that this election was stolen by old fashioned, street level, ballot stuffing in 5 or 6 "inner city" (black) locations, including Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, and two less black but equally corrupt locations in Maricopa County (Phoenix) and Las Vegas.

I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but I think the Dominion corruption angle is going to end up improvable and will just be further grist for the "debunking" articles in the MSM (liberal) media, along with the hoax about water marks on ballots.

"Occam's Razor" explanation:

At around the same time in all of these locations, with some adjustment for time zones, the voting ground to a halt. In Atlanta, they even came up with a now confirmed as false story about a pipe bursting. They sent the Republican poll watchers home, delivered the necessary 90,000 to 150,000 ballots needed to change the result, punched the totals into the machine, and that was it. Some Republicans actually caught them in the act, but they were physically threatened and ignored by the partisan media. Detroit was the most egregious, where they even saw boxes being delivered in the wee hours and they put up paper screens to hide what they were doing. None of these witnesses can really "prove" anything, of course.

I think Biden would have naturally closed the huge gap in PA just by virtue of the fact that the precincts around Philly genuinely were counted last (plus the mail in ballots, legitimate and fraudulent). This is why you see those weird, unprecedented spikes in Biden totals in the early morning hours: The boxes containing fraudulent and/or harvested ballots were dumped into the pot.

What enabled all of the above to really work was the "mail in" ballots.

And they're going to get away with all of this because it was predominantly blacks who were doing this and the fact that the media is the de facto Ministry of Information for the Democratic Party. In a country where blacks are permitted to loot, and in some areas get a misdemeanor citation if the stuff they steal is worth less than $1,000, and in other cases get away with murder when the victim is white, the media will simply not report this stuff. "If a tree falls in the forest and it's not on CNN or in the New York Times, did that tree really fall?"

[Nov 22, 2020] Dec 8 is the crucial day to decide the 2020 presidential elections

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Reg Cæsar , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 8:18 pm GMT • 3.9 days ago

@Brett Redmayne-Titley nce William Plumer in 1820. (Novelist and Humphrey elector James Michener wrote that he would have if necessary in 1968, as he much preferred Nixon to the House and Wallace.)

Inasmuch as the US -- and every state -- has a religious feast day like St Patrick's and St George's, it would be Dec 8. Perfect date for a "Hail Mary"!

*Seven of the ten deviant votes cast in 2016 were counted, the other three replaced. State law rules here.

[Nov 22, 2020] Though of Powell presentation: But, Venezuela ? Cuba ? Possibly China ? Sounds like a HUGE crock. I can't back that. It's just a bunch of commie-bashing.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Featherless , says: Next New Comment November 20, 2020 at 5:43 am GMT • 2.5 days ago

I watched the Sidney Powell video, hoping to root for " them ".

But, Venezuela ? Cuba ? Possibly China ? Sounds like a HUGE crock.
I can't back that. It's just a bunch of commie-bashing.

[Nov 22, 2020] The pattern and location of fraud in several states was very similar: Big cities controlled by Democrats where the vote was suddenly stopped with Trump far ahead, and in the dead of night, voila, a deluge of implausible or impossible Biden votes.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Robert Snefjella , says: Next New Comment

[Nov 22, 2020] Sidney Powell has a tighrope to walk. Her opponent is not the opposing campaign of Dem hacks. Her opponent is CIA. CIA stuffed all those ballots.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Wally , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 12:04 am GMT • 18.6 hours ago

@Brett Redmayne-Titley dney-powell-staggering-evidence-of-vote-fraud-dominion-machines-engineered-by-china-venezuela-cuba/
Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell Responds to Tucker Carlson: 'He Was Insulting, Demanding and Rude' : https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11/20/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-responds-to-tucker-carlson-he-was-insulting-demanding-and-rude/#
includes:

and more Powell interviews:

https://youtu.be/F5vndAmMqAM

anonymous [379] Disclaimer , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 12:20 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

BRT 207, agreed that the interview was less than cathartic, but Sidney has a tighrope to walk. Her opponent is not the opposing campaign of Dem hacks. Her opponent is CIA. CIA stuffed all those ballots. Unfortunately for Sidney, in US law and regulation, CIA crime is secret. The perps are secret under the IIPA. The facts are secret under the operational files exemption. The law is secret under COG procedures. Flynn explained the birds and bees to her. Remember DIA is JFK's creation.

Now Sidney has to find a way to puke up evidence of CIA crime in court.

CIA ratfucked Chavez with their electoral malware, albeit ineffectually.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06CARACAS2063_a.html (per that cheeky monkey PCR)

CIA put their Venezuelan proprietary through a couple of sheepdippings and turned it on Trump. Just like they used it on Kerry. Just like they do whenever you vote for the wrong guy. Honnête homme Hopsicker, offered a lifetime of hookers and blow to shut up, has the most synoptic take:

https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/11/15/short-history-election-fraud/

This is transnational organized crime by CIA. Sidney has to call CIA agents under oath. She has to protect them from DO's murderers. She has to explode everything you think about your bullshit fake democracy. I don't know if she can do it but I hope she can.

[Nov 22, 2020] -It Defies Logic-- Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data -

Highly recommended!
Nov 22, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"It Defies Logic": Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data by Tyler Durden Mon, 11/09/2020 - 13:30 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

A most interesting thread popped up on Twitter Sunday from a data scientist who wishes to remain anonymous, regarding mail-in ballot data which strongly suggests fraud occurred in the wee hours of election night, when several swing states inexplicably stopped reporting vote counts while President Trump maintained a healthy lead over Joe Biden.

Using time series data 'scraped' from the New York Times website, the data - comparing several states (swing and non-swing) - clearly illustrates what fraud does and does not look like, and how several anomalies in swing states left 'fingerprints of fraud' as Biden pulled ahead of President Trump.

Presented below via @APhilosophae :

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Continued...

This is based on their proprietary "Edison" data source which would ordinarily be impossible to access for people outside the press. The CSV is available here ( updated). And the script to generate it is here . I suggest that everyone back up both of these files , bc this is an extremely important data source, and we cant risk anyone taking it down.

What we are looking at will be time series analysis and you will see that it is extremely difficult to create convincing synthetic times series data. By looking at the times series logs of the ballot counting process for the entire country, we can very easily spot fraud.

One of the first things noticed while exploring the dataset is that there seems to be an obvious pattern in the ratio of new #Biden ballots to new #Trump ballots.

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As we can see on this log-log plot, for many of the counting progress updates, we see an almost constant ratio of #Biden to #Trump. It's such a regular pattern that we can actually fit a linear regression model to it with near-perfect accuracy, barring some outliers. How could this be possible? Is this a telltale sign of fraud? Surprisingly, as it will be shown, the answer is no! This is actually expected behavior. Also, we can use this weird pattern in the ballot counting to spot fraud!

Here is the same pattern for Florida . We see this linear pattern again.

And again (Texas)

And again (South Dakota)

And again all over the country. What appears to be happening is that points on the straight line are actually mail in votes . The reason they're so homogeneous across with respect to the ratio of #Biden vs #Trump votes is that they get randomly shuffled in the mail like a deck of cards. Since the ballots are randomly mixed together during transport, spanning areas occupied by multiple voting demographics, we can expect the ratio of mail-in #Biden ballots to mail-in #Trump ballots will remain relatively constant over time and across different reporting updates.

Lets dig a little deeper into this :

Here is a plot of the same Florida voting data, but this time it's the ratio of #Biden to #Trump ballots, versus time. What we see is that the initial ballot reportings are very noisy and "random".

The initial reporting represents in-person voting. These vote reports have such large variation bc in-person voting happens across different geographic areas that have different political alignments. We can see this same pattern of noisy in-person voting, followed by homogeneous mail-in reporting in almost all cases. What we see in almost all examples across the country is that the ratio of mail-in Dem to Rep ballots is very consistent across time, but with the notable drift from Dem to slightly more Rep.

This slight drift from D to R mail-ins occurs again and again, and is likely due to outlying rural areas having more R votes. These outlying areas take longer to ship their ballots to the polling centers.

Now we're getting into the really good stuff . When we see mail-in ballot counting where there isn't relatively stable ratios of D and R ballots that slightly drift R, we have an anomaly! Anomalies themselves are not necessarily fraud, but they can help us spot fraud more easily.

Now let's look at some anomalies:

This is the Wisconsin vote counting history log. Again, on the Y axis we have the ratio of D to R ballots in reporting batch, and on the X axis we have reporting time. Around 4am there, there is a marked shift in the ratio of D to R mail-in ballots . Based on other posts in this thread, this should not happen . This is an anomaly, and while anomalies are not always fraud, often they may point to fraud.

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By 4am the D to R ratio was all thrown out of whack. That is because these ballots were not sampled from the real Wisconsin voter population, and they were not randomized in the mail sorting system with the other ballots. They inherently have a different D to R signature than the rest of the ballots quite possibly bc additional ballots were added to the batch, either through backdating or ballot manufacturing or software tampering. This of this being kind of analogous to carbon-14 dating, but for ballot batch authenticity.

Lets look at another anomaly (Pennsylvania):

Here is Pennsylvania's vote counting history. For the first part of the vote counting process, we see the same pattern for mail-in ballots that we've seen in every other state in the country, which is relatively stable D to R ratio that gradually drifts R as more ballots. But then as counting continues, the D to R ratio in mail-in ballots inexplicably begin "increasing" . Again, this should not happen , and it is observed almost nowhere else in the country , because all of the ballots are randomly shuffled in the mail system and should be homogeneous during counting. The only exceptions to this are other suspect states that also have anomalies .

Again, this is evidence of ballot backdating, manufacturing of software tampering .

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Lets look at another anomaly:

In Georgia we see pretty much the same story as Pennsylvania: increasing fractions of mail-in D ballots over time even though it defies logic and we see this pattern no where else in the country.

In Michigan , we see a combination of Wisconsin strangeness, together with the GA/PA weirdness. We see both signs of contaminated ballot dumping, and ballot ratios drifting toward dems when they should not be.

Virginia:

Now in fairness, VA is the only state out of the 50 that has anomalies but has not had accusations of voter fraud, yet. I think this is the exception that proves the rule. Yet to figure out what causes this anomalous shift, but here it is so no one accuses me of holding it back.

Lets wrap this up: It appears Dems shot themselves in the foot bc making everyone do mail-in ballots actually makes it easier to catch mail-in ballot fraud . Bc all of the ballots go through the postal system, they get shuffled like a deck of cards, so we expect reported ballot return to be extremely UNIFORM in terms of D vs R ratio, but to drift slightly towards R over time bc some of those ballots travel farther. This pattern proves fraud and is a verifiable timestamp of when each fraudulent action occurred .

[Nov 22, 2020] Voter Fraud and Election Fraud has been around a long time. Read Vote Scam, a book taken out of the Library of Congress

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

anastasia , says: Next New Comment November 21, 2020 at 9:48 pm GMT • 20.9 hours ago

The system is set up for failure in proving election fraud. Firstly, the security agencies will not lift a finger unless there is "substantial evidence of voter fraud." This was as true in the past as it is now.

There is no way that a candidate can discover all the election fraud in the short time they have to do it, especially when there are obstacles in the fraud areas controlled by the other side.

The courts are reluctant to do anything unless you have substantial evidence that rises to the level of proof that would change an election. Cannot be based upon probabilities.

The overall concern of the government is for it not to appear illegitimate. This is a public policy reason for turning a blind's eye, by the government, by the media, by anyone who has the power to influence.

Voter Fraud and Election Fraud has been around a long time. Read Vote Scam, a book taken out of the Library of Congress. I am sure that there have been more than several candidates who have lost office because of it, but with the system in place, it's gonna be tough toogies for the candidate who lost..

[Nov 22, 2020] My gut feeling is that this election was stolen by old fashioned, street level, ballot stuffing in 5 or 6 "inner city" (black) locations, including Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, and two less black but equally corrupt locations in Maricopa County (Phoenix) and Las Vegas.

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Patrick in SC , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 5:55 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago

My gut feeling is that this election was stolen by old fashioned, street level, ballot stuffing in 5 or 6 "inner city" (black) locations, including Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, and two less black but equally corrupt locations in Maricopa County (Phoenix) and Las Vegas.

I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but I think the Dominion corruption angle is going to end up unprovable and will just be further grist for the "debunking" articles in the MSM (liberal) media, along with the hoax about water marks on ballots.

"Occam's Razor" explanation:

At around the same time in all of these locations, with some adjustment for time zones, the voting ground to a halt. In Atlanta, they even came up with a now confirmed as false story about a pipe bursting. They sent the Republican poll watchers home, delivered the necessary 90,000 to 150,000 ballots needed to change the result, punched the totals into the machine, and that was it. Some Republicans actually caught them in the act, but they were physically threatened and ignored by the partisan media. Detroit was the most egregious, where they even saw boxes being delivered in the wee hours and they put up paper screens to hide what they were doing. None of these witnesses can really "prove" anything, of course.

I think Biden would have naturally closed the huge gap in PA just by virtue of the fact that the precincts around Philly genuinely were counted last (plus the mail in ballots, legitimate and fraudulent). This is why you see those weird, unprecedented spikes in Biden totals in the early morning hours: The boxes containing fraudulent and/or harvested ballots were dumped into the pot.

What enabled all of the above to really work was the "mail in" ballots.

And they're going to get away with all of this because it was predominantly blacks who were doing this and the fact that the media is the de facto Ministry of Information for the Democratic Party. In a country where blacks are permitted to loot, and in some areas get a misdemeanor citation if the stuff they steal is worth less than $1,000, and in other cases get away with murder when the victim is white, the media will simply not report this stuff. "If a tree falls in the forest and it's not on CNN or in the New York Times, did that tree really fall?"

[Nov 22, 2020] Effect of Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election on 2020 Presidential election

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Skeptikal , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 9:47 pm GMT • 3.9 days ago

Brett, can you please comment on this?

Below is a comment from James Kunstler's blog (apologies if this breaks a rule):

"BOMBSHELL: The 2020 election took place under a Trump-declared "National Emergency" that set an Election Day trap for the "unauthorized accessing of election and campaign infrastructure"

** https://www.distributednews.com/474016.html **

Wow What a doozy . Could be the trap that folks have been commenting on, why Brennan seems to be coming unglued, maybe why Esper was fired and replaced, why some Democrats seem to be been freaking out even more lately

I have pasted 3 sections from the article:

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"This story begins with the little-known executive order signed into existence on September 12, 2018, by President Donald J. Trump. That order, available at Whitehouse.gov, is entitled, "Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election." In that executive order, which almost no one has covered since the day it was signed, President Trump declares a national emergency. That emergency is still in play to this day, and the 2020 election was conducted under this state of emergency, which is a crucial point to understand what's coming next."

And,

"Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) says the US military just raided the server farm of Scytl in Spain

Lest you think this is all speculation and rumor, we now get to the part where the rubber meets the road. According to a video interview with Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-TX) which aired earlier today, the US military has just conducted a raid on the server farm of the now-bankrupt Scytl company in Barcelona, Spain. The Gateway Pundit, which has been at the forefront of much of the bombshell reporting of the election rigging conspiracy that took place on November 3rd, reached out to its sources to confirm the military operations in Europe, as related to gathering evidence of election theft. Here's what TGP just reported: The US government, once they determined that this Dominion server was involved in switching votes, then the intelligence community began a search for the server and discovered that the server was in Germany. In order to get access to that server and have it available for use in a legal manner they had to have the State Department work in tandem with the Department of Justice. They had to request that the government of Germany cooperate in allowing this seizure of this server. The appropriate documents required to affect that kind of seizure were put in place, signed off on, and it appears there was also US military support in this operation. The US military was not in the lead. But this helps explain why Esper was fired and Miller and Kash Patel were put in place -- so that the military would not interfere with the operation in any way. By getting ahold of the server they now are going to have the direct evidence of when they were instructed to stop counting. They will also discover who gave the direction to stop counting and who initiated the algorithm that started switching votes. The CIA was completely excluded from this operation. Here's the interview with Rep. Gohmert, now on Brighteon.com , just in case YouTube tries to memory hole this video:"

Last, but not least:

"RECOUNTS no longer matter; the certification of votes is now irrelevant

The action plan to achieve all this is under way as you read this. Team Trump already has the full transaction logs of Dominion Voting Systems election alterations, and with raids taking place in Europe, more evidence of foreign interference is being secured. Importantly, this enormous cache of vote fraud evidence will be more than sufficient for President Trump to present this evidence to the American people, then declare an illegal insurrection attempt against the United States of America while deploying US Marshals or military police to arrest the treasonous actors in the United States who attempted to carry out this elaborate criminal fraud. No wonder John Brennan appears to be crapping himself every time he appears on live television. Once Trump's plan is fully activated, people like Brennan will need a lifetime supply of Depends. Once all the evidence is compiled and presented, President Trump merely needs to declare the entire election to be null and void as an artifact of a failed foreign coup attempt against the United States, aided by treasonous operators inside the Democrat party and certain dark corners of the intelligence community (CIA, FBI, etc.). As an immutable legal principle, any party that engages in a social contract (such as an election) and then cheats to try to unfairly "win" that contract, is disqualified by default. You cannot win an election by stealing it. There is overwhelming legal precedent for this in court decisions from both SCOTUS and Federal district courts. The recounts are irrelevant. The "certification" of the fraudulent votes is just theater. None of that matters once the overwhelming fraudulent nature of the entire operation is documented and revealed to all."

[Nov 22, 2020] Black box voting, a book by Bev Harriv

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Skeptikal , says: Next New Comment November 21, 2020 at 2:05 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

@Brett Redmayne-Titley Diebold?

Black Box Voting, Bev Harris, was in the forefront of that investigation, and alerted the public to the dangers inherent these machines and the scumbags who run the companies that make and program them. Harris's organization bills itself as nonpartisan.

And Jonathan Simon. Simon seemed like a very good guy, but he may be too partisan (high on the Trump-Hate-o-Meter) to throw his intellect and experience into the current fight. I don't know.

Harris's book:

https://read.amazon.com/kp/card?preview=inline&linkCode=kpd&ref_=k4w_oembed_HgpnGErXk44wLz&asin=1890916900&tag=kpembed-20

Some good info here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bev_Harris

[Nov 22, 2020] The wireless interface on these voting machines allows access by people sitting in automobiles outside.

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Ace , says: Next New Comment November 20, 2020 at 6:34 pm GMT • 2.0 days ago

@El Dato

The wireless interface on these voting machines allows access by people sitting in automobiles outside. I don't know if (some of) the machines are connected to the internet but there is no "air gap" such as would prevent outside electronic access:

It's not a question of "mystery software" that can "hack voting machines." Try to keep up.

[Nov 22, 2020] Which counties in Michgan use Dominion voating systems

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Reg Cæsar , says: Next New Comment November 19, 2020 at 1:38 am GMT • 3.7 days ago

@Robert Palmer

Also, some counties in Michigan use Dominion but most of them do not I believe.

Only about half the state. Of the top fifteen counties, Wayne, Kent, Ingham, Saginaw, St Clair, Jackson, and Berrien use Dominion. Oakland, Macomb, Genesee, Washtenaw, Ottawa, Livingston and Muskegon use Hart InterCivic, and Kalamazoo uses ES&S.


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[Nov 22, 2020] The claims made about Dominion voting alone would, if aggressively followed up, destroy the Democratic vote rigging infrastructure in several, perhaps most, states.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Anonymous [290] Disclaimer , says: Next New Comment November 19, 2020 at 11:19 pm GMT • 2.8 days ago

@Skeptikal ng all past Federal elections involving Dominion (and functionally identical) machines into question. The claims might, if aggressively followed up, significantly thin Democratic leadership. If the Democrats cannot quash this, it could be the end of the Democrats.

I have no particular objection to this, but the Democrats might (Who knows, ANTIFA might cheer.). If the Democrats were frightened before, they're much more frightened now. Frightened people act unpredictably. Unpredictable acts are particularly dangerous now because the Democrats still control the cities and several states. Remember that the Democrats, although visibly declining, are still immensely powerful. If a serious dispute arises, try not to get stepped on by the combatants. If you have any way to support Trump, this would be the time to support him.

[Nov 22, 2020] The role of Smartmatic software

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Loup-Bouc , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 11:25 pm GMT • 3.8 days ago

...Mr. Titley converts to mishmash much evidence and insight rendered by actual investigative journalists, competent attorneys', and expert data-analysts -- e.g. , one anonymous "data scientist's" prima facie credible argument respecting of the probability of election fraud, https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot

As in his first two articles concerning the 2020 election, in this third article, Mr. Titley utters false or questionable "facts" [ e.g. , misidentifies or fails to account accurately the voting apparatus or vote-tabulation software that particular counties or precincts used], and displays a deep, wide ignorance of pertinent law.

Mr. Titley's theme appears to misdirect attention to Dominion Voting Systems "voting machines" themselves. Dominion Voting Systems "machines" are not designed to be fraud-effecting devices. They were not devised to erase votes or create false votes or ballots -- though some experts argue that Dominion "machines" bear program-glitches that can cause tally-errors.

If (as seems to appear) massive fraud occurred with use of Dominion Voting Systems," either (a) individuals must have manually-manipulated or remotely-hacked the Dominion "machines" or (b) vote-count-altering software -- e.g. , "Smartmatic" -- must have been loaded into, and operated upon, particular Dominion "machine" systems.

According to Sidney Powell -- a previous Assistant United States Attorney and U.S. federal district Appellate Section Chief and now a private practitioner -- the problem is software named Smartmatic:

[S]oftware, dubbed Smartmatic, was designed for the sole purpose of shifting voting results.

"It was a feature of the system that was designed with a back door, so that people could watch in real time and calculate with an algorithm how many votes they needed to change to make the results they wanted to create."

https://www.oann.com/trump-attorney-sidney-powell-says-election-results-ready-to-overturn/
See also
(a) https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/14/the-lie-sheet-known-as-the-ny-times-claims-no-election-fraud/
(b) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/16/sidney-powell-lin-wood-promise-theres-ton-voter-fraud/
(c) https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/11/05/evidence-mounts-of-a-stolen-election/

Mr. Titley says Sidney Powell is Trump's lead attorney. She is not such, but a simply a Trump-legal-team member. Mr. Titley says Sidney Powell asserted:

"They need to investigate the likelihood that 3% of the vote total was changed in the pre-election voting ballots that were collected digitally by using the Hammer program and the software program called Scorecard. That would have amounted to a massive change in the vote."

But Mr. Titley does not link or cite any document or video in which Sidney Powell uttered such statement. And in several videos Sidney Powell has pressed the argument that Smartmatic software's use is the culprit. See, e.g. ,
(a) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_p1sonhp-k
(b) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpEnpUN6FQ4 [starting at 221
(c) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95WWSQFBVCo

Sidney Powell has said also: (a) Evidence indicates that Smartmatic software was used not only in Dominion Systems "machines", but also in electronic voting/vote-tabulating "machines" other than Dominion; and (b) Smartmatic software's election-fraud-effect requires human operation seeking to alter vote-outcomes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95WWSQFBVCo

Mr. Titley closes his article with this:

Criminal charges and indictments must be brought against one and all proved to be involved in the attempt to circumvent the American election process.

That indictment: Treason.

Surely, much flagrant criminal conduct explains the egregious state of the 2020 election. But "Treason" does not -- cannot :

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.

U.S. Constitution Article III, section 3, clause 1

Per Article III, section 3, clause 1, one cannot commit "Treason" against the United States unless either
(a) one wages war against the United States -- as by fighting for a foreign state attacking or attempting to attack the United States or by joining an armed insurrection (against the U.S. government)
or
(b) one adheres to -- adopts a supportive association with -- a foreign power engaged in open hostility against the United States AND renders ACTIVE aid or comfort to the troops or other belligerency-agents ( e.g. , spies, saboteurs) of that foreign power.

The Article III, section 3, clause 1 term "enemies,"applies only to troops or other belligerency-agents of a foreign power manifesting a state of open hostility against the United States; the term's denotation does not include U.S. domestic rebels engaged in insurrection against the U.S. government.

But if an insurrection's armed forces form a "body politic" (as did the Confederacy of the U.S. civil war), then such armed force's members are "enemies" per Article III, section 3, clause 1, since such belligerent body politic is effectively a "foreign" power. And if one adheres to such belligerent body politic and renders aid or comfort to its troops or other belligerency-agents, one commits "Treason." But such belligerent body politic is not an "enemy" unless its belligerency manifests as war (armed violent belligerence).

Article III, section 3, clause 1 applies only to disloyal acts committed during time of war or armed insurrection and in pursuit or support of such war or armed insurrection -- NOT to disloyal speech or anti-government conduct occurring in peacetime (rather than in war or armed insurrection).

Compare , e.g. ,
(a) pp.323-333 of https://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2589&context=ylj
(b) https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F.Cas/0026.f.cas/0026.f.cas.0018.2.pdf
(c) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/67/635/
(d) https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/article-iii/clauses/39
(e) https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-3/44-aid-and-comfort-to-the-enemy.html

Despite Democrats and their individual and corporate supporters appear to have tainted, criminally, this year's voting or other election processes, the Democrats and their supporters have NOT levied war or armed insurrection against the United States or given aid or comfort to the troops or other belligerency-agents of a foreign power. Hence, their likely crimes cannot be "Treason."

[Nov 22, 2020] The Scorecard potentially intercepts the data on the way to server and changes it. The NSA has access to all internet traffic and most likely a back door that allows them to defeat encryption in private virtual networks.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Dystopian , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 3:25 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

@Mish S

You misunderstand how scorecard works. It intercepts the data on the way to server and changes it. The NSA has access to all internet traffic and most likely a back door that allows them to defeat encryption. Recently, some hackers discovered a back door in RSA keys which are used to encrypt internet traffic. It was patched but I'm sure there was either another way in or a new one created. Since all data is transmitted to a known server they would intercept all traffic to the server and modify it. TCP/IP is a protocol that has nothing to do the originating operating system. By the way, although not necessary for scorecard to work, many voting machines are connected to the internet. In a recent independent audit the machines examined, which run Windows 10, were unpatched and open to many know vulnerabilities. Windows 10 a virus in it's own right, connects to Microsoft hundreds of times a day and transmits god knows what information. They also had unauthorized software installed indicating that local users had administrative rights to the system. Another little known fact is that modern Intel processors have their own cell modem. So even without an internet connection it is still possible to hack into a computer. Since the connection is low level, intrusion prevention software is unaware of the unauthorized entry.

Agent76 , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 7:09 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago

Apr 27, 2016 US elections, RIGGED Computer Programmer TESTIFIES Congressional Meeting.

If anyone can provide any details as exactly when this took place, where and any detail as to who the people are in this video please comment and I'll fill in the details.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/nafAbO5qRrU?feature=oembed

[Nov 22, 2020] Computer-based voting machines should be removed from the US elections

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Curmudgeon , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 5:47 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago

@AReply s, but not Trump's? Gore is every bit as much of a turd as Trump if not more so. The issue is the same regardless of who is behind it. It is wrong and has to stop.

It will not stop until electronics are removed. Who says that you have to know who has won the vote count before you go to bed? That is bullshit. More voting stations ensuring a voter is entitled to vote with paper ballots and the results counted where cast with observers signing off on the count will put a big screw into rigging. Elections ought not be instant gratification. Democracy is supposed to require work.

Yes, I am aware American style democracy is the best money can buy, but returning to hand counted paper is the first step of many, in re-claiming government.

Curmudgeon , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 5:54 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago
@Verymuchalive

From the site (emphasis added):

According to unconfirmed reports, the server of a Spanish company, which was used for large parts of the US election count, was in Frankfurt am Main.

[Nov 22, 2020] FLASHBACK- Hacker Demonstrates How Easily Voting Machines Can Be Forced To Change Votes

Highly recommended!
Although the machines hacked are old, nevertheless this an amazing, stunning example of incompetence or corruption of election officials all over the USA
Nov 22, 2020 | www.weaselzippers.us

R1 an hour ago ,

As anyone in computer security will tell you, once the attacker has physical access, it's game over.

Sentinel R1 42 minutes ago ,

And if the attacker is a contractor, you have bigger problems.

[Nov 22, 2020] Facebook's Zuckerberg funding election judges in Pennsylvania- 'What could go wrong-' – World Tribune- Window on the Real Wor

Nov 22, 2020 | www.worldtribune.com

Facebook's Zuckerberg funding election judges in Pennsylvania: 'What could go wrong?'

By World Tribune on November 6, 2020

by WorldTribune Staff , November 6, 2020

A federal lawsuit filed on Oct. 19 noted that Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg provided the funds to double the number of polling places in Philadelphia and that he is also paying for judges to oversee ballot counting.

Votebook: Turns out that Mark Zuckerberg has a heavy hand it what is transpiring in Philadelphia. / C-SPAN

The suit, filed in U.S. District Court, Middle District of Pennsylvania, highlights how a grant for $10 million from the Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL) explicitly requires the City of Philadelphia open no fewer than 800 new polling places – and failing to do so may require the City to forfeit the grant money. The funding from Zuckerberg also pays for judges to oversee ballot counts and the outcome of disputes that arise regarding the eligibility of ballots in the election.

The plaintiffs in the case, the Pennsylvania Voters Alliance and several officeholders and candidates, previously filed a complaint against Centre County, Delaware County, and the City of Philadelphia, and Secretary of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Kathy Boockvar.

"Municipal leaders have ceded their role as a local authority to CTCL with powers that rightfully belong to the people of Pennsylvania through their representatives in Harrisburg by effectively inviting this partisan billionaire into the ballot counting room," said Tom King, the legal counsel representing the plaintiffs in the case."

Washington Times reporter Rowan Scarborough noted: "They are still voting in Pennsylvania. Three days after Nov. 3. Dems tried that in other states but judges said no. Continued voting after election day would be considered fraud by UN observers. News reports said more ballots coming in. No post mark required. Or matching signature. UN observers would also consider that evidence of fraud."

Phill Kline, Director of the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society, which is supporting the litigation in Pennsylvania, said: "We are fighting Mark Zuckerberg around the country where he is using CTCL, a nonprofit founded and managed by Obama-affiliated operatives, to funnel hundreds of millions of dollars to leftist strongholds in several battleground states to determine the outcome of the election. This is a scheme engineered by partisan activists under the guise of COVID-related support. The privatization of the election undermines the integrity of the election."

Political commentator Mark Steyn noted: "So swing-state elections are now a subsidiary of Facebook: Votebook. What could go wrong?"

[Nov 22, 2020] America's "Color Revolution". For those readers who may be unfamiliar - by Marisol Nostromo - Medium

Notable quotes:
"... not on those issues ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... The Atlantic. ..."
"... New York Post ..."
"... Nota Bene: the author of this article was subsequently ..."
"... suspended from Twitter ..."
"... without explanation. Contact @TwitterSupport and ask them why. ..."
Nov 22, 2020 | marisol-nostromo.medium.com

For those readers who may be unfamiliar with the term "Color Revolution", it refers to what has now become the standard technique for promoting "regime change" in targeted nations.

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The term may have its origins in the works of Gene Sharp , who wrote some guidebooks on how to organize popular revolts using Madison Avenue-style marketing techniques. He recommended to the sponsors that rather than confusing or boring the participants with too much political theory, they should motivate their budding revolutionaries with pop culture, using catchy, content-free slogans, logos, and team colors.

Color R e volutions are expensive ( $5 billion in the case of Ukraine ) and are typically orchestrated by a public-private partnership comprised of government agencies such as the State Department and MI6 and/or CIA, combined with private funding and Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs).

The most famous organization of this sort is the National Endowment For Democracy, a curious entity that is funded by the US Government through USAID (as well as by donations from major neocon private foundations), and has two sub-organizations that disseminate the funds to various Regime Change projects: the International Republican Institute, affiliated with the Republican Party, and the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, affiliated with the Democrats. Both organizations carry out the same activity, which underscores the fact that on matters of subverting and bullying the rest of the world, there is a lot more bipartisanship in the US than people are inclined to think.

Another name associated with funding and orchestration is George Soros , whose various tax-exempt organizations such as the Open Society Foundations invariably pump money into the latest Color Revolutions, for reasons that are often more commercial than strictly political.

After the September 11 attacks in 2001, the neocons fanned the flames of indignation and xenophobia, and were able to exploit them in order to assume a dominant role in most American institutions, particularly the political parties and the media. Regime Change fever swept the foreign policy establishment, and anyone who looked cross-eyed at a neocon became a target.

Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama embraced the neocon ethos and gave them virtual carte blanche to carry out Color Revolutions around the world. The advent of social media, which fosters communication in the form of short, catchy slogans and images that can be made to "go viral," was particularly conducive to Gene Sharp's formula of organizing the masses around advertising copy and team colors. The Color Revolution techniques were used on a large scale in the former Soviet Union, such as in the 2003 Rose Revolution in Georgia or the 2005 Orange Revolution in Ukraine.

If the targeted populations can't be organized effectively to overthrow their leaders, there is always the fall back option of arming mercenary groups to seize power by violence, or if that fails, out and out military aggression by the US or NATO. The most reliable method seems to be a combination of non-violent and violent action, such as in the case of Ukraine's second Color Revolution in 2014 (a coup which was comically dubbed the "Revolution of Dignity" by its neocon sponsors, who know that a successful marketing campaign must never be understated.) A similar case was the 2019 protests in Hong Kong, where gang violence was deployed in hopes of provoking a crackdown by the state which could then be exploited for propaganda purposes.

But it was inevitable that these techniques would eventually be used on the US itself. Donald Trump campaigned on a platform of reducing US reliance on Regime Change wars and NATO "out-of-area deployments" as a centerpiece of foreign policy. This was anathema to the neocons. Once in office, Trump vacillated, bringing prominent neocons into his cabinet and allowing them to launch multiple Regime Change operations. However, Trump was not a doctrinaire neocon, and he angered them by advocating better relations with North Korea, Russia and China. And for the neocons, anything short of total allegiance to their ideology is tantamount to betrayal.

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The standard methodology was put into play the moment Trump was inaugurated. The team color was pink, in the form of the pink "pussy hats" (these ostensibly called attention to Trump's sexual vulgarity and libertine lifestyle, which lacked the charm of Bill Clinton's.) The buzzword was #Resistance, which was intended to conjure up images of the struggle by nations which had been conquered by Nazi aggression during World War II. Oddly enough, however, the aggressive moves by Trump against other nations were not #Resisted. In fact, those were the only instances where he received hearty praise from the corporate media.

But it's not possible to mobilize a population with hats and hashtags alone. There had to be some minimal political content, and herein lay the dilemma for the organizers of America's Color Revolution. There was widespread popular discontent with what has become known as the "forever war" policy, as well as the neoliberal economics which have produced an unprecedented income disparity between the 1% and the 99%, and this popular discontent was key in electing Trump. The neocons wanted discontent, but not on those issues , since they had no intention of changing those policies.

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Instead, they opted for a revival of the Cold War. Americans seem to have a particular susceptibility to jingoism, and the demonization of the former communist powers, which had already begun in 2014 with the neocon-sponsored coup in Ukraine, was cranked up to full volume in the corporate media, using all the imagery and sloganeering that had proved so effective during the 1950s.

This involved some spectacular feats of cognitive dissonance. Despite Trump's outbursts of bellicosity toward Russia and other neocon targets, Trump was portrayed as being "soft," an appeaser, or an outright enemy agent. The Democratic Party, which is considered to be the more liberal of the two parties and had in decades past expressed some nominal opposition to military adventures in Vietnam and elsewhere, swung way to the right of the Republicans in the jingoism derby.

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The secret police agencies and their pet journalists concocted what will be admired by historians as one of the most preposterous conspiracy theories in recorded history, the tale of Russia manipulating the 2016 election with a computer hack which somehow cannot be detected by the NSA , and puppy pages on Facebook .

There was also a big focus on Trump's personality, which is admittedly none too winsome. This is consistent with the neocon "Hitler of the Month Club" formula, where each new nemesis, from Manuel Noriega to Saddam Hussein to Muammar Gaddafi to Vladimir Putin, is depicted as the most brutish, authoritarian dictator ever to walk the face of the planet.

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They succeeded in impeaching Trump in December 2019, almost three years into his first term in office. They did not actually charge Trump with an impeachable crime, but rather offered the rationale that he had allegedly used the power of his office in ways that could benefit his re-election campaign (something that no other American president would ever dream of doing.) This was a far cry from the much sexier, hoped-for rationale of "collusion" with the Bolshevik Foe, which had been shot down by the Mueller Report. However, impeachment maven Adam Schiff managed to insinuate that this Collusion was the real basis for impeachment, every time he saw a TV camera. We faced the surreal spectacle of liberals begging John Bolton to testify, as the role of the neocons in orchestrating the #Resistance became ever more explicit.

The impeachment passed the House on purely partisan lines, and Senate voted not to convict on purely partisan lines as well. There has been much speculation that popular pushback to the whole spectacle may actually benefit Trump in this year's election. We shall see.

Meanwhile, with the massively FUBAR Iowa caucuses of February 2020, questions were once again raised once again about the Democratic nominating process. Bernie Sanders was emerging as a new threat to neocon dominance, this time from within the Democratic Party.

During the days leading up to Super Tuesday, there was a remarkable development. Every prominent neocon, from Bill Kristol to Max Boot to David Frum to Susan Rice, acted with synchronized, military precision to endorse Joe Biden. Several neocon-friendly Democratic presidential candidates abruptly withdrew from the race to endorse him as well. There was an immediate Pavlovian response from cable news pundits and other putative journalists. Russiagate was dusted off and started up again, this time for use against Sanders. On April 8, Sanders capitulated and withdrew from the race.

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No one in their right mind believed that the confused and incoherent Biden could defeat the also incoherent, but clever and confident Trump. But at this point, it was more important to the neocons that they keep control over at least one of the two parties, and a decision was made that it were better to throw the election to Trump rather than to allow Sanders' brand of left-populism to become ascendant in the Democratic Party.

But then the neocons saw a fresh opportunity, following the May 25 murder of African-American George Floyd by police in Minneapolis. Protest demonstrations by the Black community intersected the anxieties of a population frightened and frustrated by the one-two punch of economic collapse combined with public health isolation to contain the COVID-19 pandemic. Violent groups from the Antifa milieiu, predominately white and possibly assets of the FBI's COINTELPRO progam, initiated vandalism and looting. Neocons were salivating at the prospect of Maidan-style chaos.

The beleaguered Trump had already been showing signs of psychological fatigue, and there had been significant lapses in his already questionable judgement. In addition to mishandling the public health measures and the economic crisis, he had capitulated once more to the neocons and went on an anti-China tirade. Then, when the social unrest began in the wake of the George Floyd killing, all of Trump's political flaws came into play.

The neocons triumphantly hit the airwaves and the digital arena. Their great oracle, The Atlantic , published an article that serendipitously confirms the central theme of the article you are presently reading. Neocon high priestess Susan Rice suggested that the Russians were to blame for the rioting. Trump's every misstep was amplified by neocon pundits. Suddenly the idea of electing Biden was no longer so implausible, as long as he could be kept away from live microphones.

It's important to bear in mind that the neocons are not in the least concerned with Trump's mishandling of COVID-19 pandemic or civil unrest. They were delighted when he ranted against China. But when he advocated reducing U.S. troop deployments in Germany and Afghanistan, they were livid. On June 26, the New York Times published yet another story based on anonymous leaks from the "intelligence community". This one claimed that the Taliban needed some incentives after being occupied by a foreign power after 20 years and was now accepting "bounties" from Russia in exchange for fighting the US military. In mid-September, General Frank McKenzie, Commander of the U.S. Central Command, told NBC News that no evidence had been found to support this claim. Neocons continued to speak of it as established fact.

Although the corporate press continued to depict Trump as a fanatical right-winger in coverage intended for the rubes, within the citadels of neoconservatism he was regarded as something entirely different. On September 30, 2020, the Atlantic published another revelatory article entitled " What a Second Trump Term Would Mean for the World ." Author Thomas Wright drops a few bombshells like this one, likening Trump to the great Progressive leader Henry Wallace (who is regarded by neocons as a close relative of Satan):

Looking back on U.S. diplomatic history, one of the great counterfactuals is what would have happened if Franklin D. Roosevelt had not replaced his vice president Henry Wallace with Harry Truman in 1944. Wallace was sympathetic to the Soviet Union and became an ardent opponent of the Cold War. If he had become president when FDR died, in April 1945, the next half century could have gone very differently -- likely no NATO, no Marshall Plan, no alliance with Japan, no overseas troop presence, and no European Union.

The U.S. is now teetering on another historically important moment. With Trump, we would not only be deprived of our Truman. We would be saddled with our Wallace -- a leader whose instincts and actions are diametrically opposed to what the moment requires.

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The good news is that the neocons are not omnipotent. They are adept at conning the public and they have the full cooperation of the corporate media, but the public is volatile and increasingly skeptical of the official "narratives." This is why the neocons are growing more and more hysterical in their public proclamations about "conspiracy theories" and "disinformation." They are in fact strongly in favor of conspiracy theories and disinformation, provided that it is their own conspiracy theories and not someone else's.

Neocons are demanding censorship of social media , to drive everyone into the arms of CNN and The Atlantic. As the election approaches, these demands have become increasingly more vociferous, leading to a major controversy with the decision by both Facebook and Twitter to censor the New York Post coverage of leaked email correspondence between Joe Biden's son and executives of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma (which employed him at a rather remarkable salary). The rationale offered by the two social media giants, that the sourcing of the emails was unclear, did not impress media critics, who pointed out that if that policy were applied in an even-handed fashion, Russiagate could never have happened.

As long as the option is open, follow alternative news sources online. I recommend the Grayzone and Consortium News , both of which I have found to be quiet reliable. The neocons are frightened; they worry about what John Durham's investigation, or the declassification of documents ordered by Trump, may reveal about their methods of manipulation. Frightened people make tactical errors. We must keep our wits about us and find ways to turn those errors to our advantage.

Nota Bene: the author of this article was subsequently suspended from Twitter without explanation. Contact @TwitterSupport and ask them why.

[Nov 21, 2020] Blackwell: The Greatest Electoral Heist in American History

Nov 21, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

The pieces are finally coming together, and they reveal a masterpiece of electoral larceny involving Big Tech oligarchs, activists, and government officials who prioritize partisanship over patriotism.

The 2020 election was stolen because leftists were able to exploit the coronavirus pandemic to weaken, alter, and eliminate laws that were put in place over the course of decades to preserve the integrity of the ballot box. But just as importantly, it was stolen because those same leftists had a thoroughly-crafted plan, and because they were rigorous in its implementation and ruthless in its execution.

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Under the pretext of assisting election officials conduct "safe and secure" elections in the age of COVID, Zuckerberg donated $400 million -- as much money as Congress appropriated for the same general purpose -- to nonprofit organizations founded and run by left-wing activists. The primary recipient was the Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL), which received the staggering sum of $350 million. Prior to Zuckerberg's donations, CTCL's annual operating expenses averaged less than $1 million per year. How was Zuckerberg even aware of such a small-potatoes operation, and why did he entrust it with ⅞ of the money he was pouring into this election cycle, despite the fact that it had no prior experience handling such a massive amount of money?

Predictably, given the partisan background of its leading officers, CTCL proceeded to distribute Zuckerberg's funds to left-leaning counties in battleground states.

... Zuckerberg and CTCL left nothing to chance, however, writing detailed conditions into their grants that dictated exactly how elections were to be conducted, down to the number of ballot drop boxes and polling places. The Constitution gives state lawmakers sole authority for managing elections, but these grants put private interests firmly in control.

... Philadelphia County alone, for instance, projected that the $10 million grant it received from CTCL would enable it to increase turnout by 25-30 percent -- translating to well over 200,000 votes.

The left didn't put all of its eggs into the CTCL basket, though. High-ranking state officials simultaneously took significant steps to weaken ballot security protocols, acting on their own authority without permission or concurrence from the state legislatures that enshrined those protections in the law.

In Wisconsin, Democrat Secretary of State Doug La Follette allowed voters to claim " indefinite confinement " in order to avoid having to provide a photocopy of their ID when requesting an absentee ballot. The exemption was intended for legitimate invalids, but COVID offered a convenient excuse for circumventing the law, despite the fact that Wisconsin had no pandemic-related lockdown rules that would have rendered anyone "indefinitely confined." The impact was far-reaching. About 240,000 voters claimed the exemption in 2020, compared to just 70,000 in 2016.

In Michigan, Democrat Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson unilaterally voided the legal requirement that voters provide a signature when requesting an absentee ballot, establishing an online request form. She then took things a step further by announcing that she would "allow civic groups and other organizations running voter registration drives to register voters through the state's online registration website," granting partisan groups such as Rock The Vote direct access to Michigan's voter rolls.

In Pennsylvania, election officials in heavily-Democratic counties that received CTCL funding allowed flawed mail-in ballots to be "cured" -- that is, altered or replaced -- prior to Election Day.

... This was particularly egregious when it came to ballot "curing," a process that actually involves election workers filling out brand new ballots on behalf of voters whose ballots purportedly could not be read by machine. This could have been due to something the voter themselves did, such as spilling coffee on the ballot. It also could have been due to something that election workers themselves did, such as crumpling ballots to prevent the machines from receiving them, just as a vending machine rejects crumpled bills.

... These election workers, it should be noted, were paid directly by CTCL's grants . These supposedly impartial arbiters of our electoral process are supposed to work for the people, but they were on Zuckerberg's payroll.

Ken Blackwell, former Secretary of State of Ohio, is the Distinguished Fellow for Human Rights and Constitutional Governance, at the Family Research Council. He served as United States Ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Commission from 1990-1993.

Jeff Schroer 3 hours ago

Anyone with functioning grey matter knows that this election was a fraud! The question remains, are people going to just throw their hands in the air and say oh well or is this the line in the sand that patriots are drawing and saying no more it's time to take a stand for freedom and liberty! Stay tuned!

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The issue is auditing the votes.

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Millions of ballots aren't any good. That's the issue.

The remedy is the Electoral College via State legislatures . If the Republicans won't keep Trump in the White House via the Electoral College than this is a Republican coup against Trump.

We know it's a Republican coup because the Republicans who were supposed to lose like Susan Collins all won easily. They rode Trump's coattails to victory, but the coat lost.

That's not how that works. Anyone trying to explain that is part of the coup ag

[Nov 21, 2020] Georgia governor calls for 'sample audit' of ballot signatures after secretary of state certifies election for Biden

Nov 21, 2020 | www.rt.com

Georgia vote recount found 'unacceptable' errors, Governor Brian Kemp said, urging his secretary of state to conduct an audit of at least some mail-in ballots to ensure confidence in the upcoming US Senate runoff elections.

Kemp spoke on Friday evening, after Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger certified Democrat Joe Biden as winner of the state's 16 electoral votes in the November 3 election, following a recount of the ballots. Both Kemp and Raffensperger are Republicans.

Acknowledging the "record number of absentee ballots" which he said was due to the Covid-19 pandemic, Kemp said the audit revealed "significant errors" in a number of counties across the state, including Floyd, Fayette, Douglas and Walton.

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"It's quite honestly hard to believe that during the audit, thousands of uncounted ballots were found weeks after a razor-thin outcome in a presidential election," Kemp said.

[Nov 21, 2020] Sidney Powell Claims That Dominion Is 'Shredding Documents' by Cortney O'Brien

Nov 21, 2020 | townhall.com

O'Connor pushed her about her claims that computer software used in the election, particularly Dominion Voting Systems, has been tainted, and he wondered how she would prove it. For starters, Powell said that her legal team has pictures of votes being manipulated in real-time.

"It is terrifying, and it is a huge national security issue," Powell said. "Why the Department of Justice and FBI have not done something, Dominion is closing its offices and moving. No doubt they're shredding documents. God only knows what else. More than 100 Dominion people have wiped any connection with Dominion off the internet."

She also claims that they have testimony from witnesses opening military ballots and trashing them if they were for Trump, and substitute ballots were put in for Biden.

"I'm essentially staking my personal and professional reputation on these allegations, and I have no hesitation from what I've seen in doing so," she noted. "In fact, I think it would be irresponsible if not criminal of me not to come forward with it."

She also says she would LOVE for Dominion to sue her over her allegations so she can conduct civil discovery. Powell also reacted to Fox News host Tucker Carlson's criticism of her on his program on Thursday night.

You can listen to their full interview below.

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[Nov 21, 2020] It Looks As Though Dominion, Smartmatic Played a Part in DHS' Election Defense

Nov 16, 2020 | townhall.com

The Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued a statement last week defending the integrity of the 2020 election. The problem, however, is two of the main election software companies that have been called into question – Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic – sit on CISA. And that information was never disclosed, the Epoch Times reported.

Below is the the joint statement put out by the Executive Committee of the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC):

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

"When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

"Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission's (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

"While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections."

The two election software companies are members of the GCC's Sector Coordinating Council:

  • Amazon Web Services (AWS)
  • Arrikan, Inc./Chaves Consulting, Inc.
  • Associated Press (AP) Elections
  • BPro, Inc.
  • Clear Ballot Group
  • Crosscheck
  • DemTech Voting Solutions
  • Democracy Live
  • Democracy Works
  • DMF Associates
  • Dominion Voting Systems
  • Election Systems & Software (ES&S)
  • Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC)
  • Freeman, Craft, McGregor Group
  • Hart InterCivic
  • KNOWInk
  • Microsoft
  • Microvote General Corp.
  • NTS Data Services
  • PCC Technology Inc.
  • Pro V&V
  • Runbeck Election Services
  • SCYTL
  • SLI Compliance
  • Smartmatic
  • Tenex Software Solutions
  • The Canton Group
  • Unisyn Voting Solutions
  • Voatz
  • VOTEC
  • Votem
  • Voting Works
  • VR Systems

According to the Election Infrastructure Subsector Coordinating Council Charter , the goal of the group is to "advance the physical security, cyber security, and emergency preparedness of the nation's election infrastructure, in accordance with existing U.S. law" and "serve as the primary liaison between the election subsector and federal, state, and local agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), concerning private election subsector security and emergency preparedness issues."

CISA's goal , on the other hand, is to work "collaboratively with those on the front lines of elections -- state and local governments, election officials, federal partners, and vendors -- to manage risks to the Nation's election infrastructure

State and local election officials decide what voting software and programs to use and CISA has no control over that.

Interestingly enough, I received an email tonight from Dominion about "setting the record straight." They cited the above statement as reason to trust them but failed to disclose their CISA connection.

Here's some of the bigger points made in their email:

Dominion Voting Systems categorically denies false assertions about vote switching and software issues with our voting systems.

According to a Joint Statement by the federal government agency that oversees U.S. election security, the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity, & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA): "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised." The government & private sector councils that support this mission called the 2020 election " the most secure in American history ."

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3) Dominion is a nonpartisan U.S. company

Dominion has no ownership relationships with the Pelosi family, Feinstein family, Clinton Global Initiative, Smartmatic, Scytl, or any ties to Venezuela. Dominion works with all U.S. political parties; our customer base and our government outreach practices reflect this nonpartisan approach.

  • As reported by the Associated Press , "Dominion made a one-time philanthropic commitment at a Clinton Global Initiative meeting in 2014, but the Clinton Foundation has no stake or involvement in Dominion's operations, the nonprofit has confirmed." The meeting included bipartisan attendees focused on international democracy-building.
  • There have been no "raids" of Dominion servers by the U.S. military or otherwise, and Dominion does not have servers in Germany.

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7) Assertions of voter fraud conspiracies are 100% false

All U.S. voting systems must provide assurance that they work accurately and reliably as intended under federal U.S. EAC and state certification and testing requirements. Election safeguards -- from testing and certification of voting systems, to canvassing and auditing -- prevent malicious actors from tampering with vote counts and ensure that final vote tallies are accurate. Read more from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency .

This isn't the first time Dominion's software has been called into question. Democrats voiced concern over the software last December. The Denver Post warned about their election security earlier this year. The Michigan GOP said a software glitch caused 6,000 votes to flip from Trump to Biden, although the Michigan Secretary of State said that wasn't the case. It's one of the reasons Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said the legal process needs to play out in the courts.

[Nov 20, 2020] Will The Trump Team Prove A Global Conspiracy Or Will Dominion Sue For Defamation

The last thing Dominion probably wants is additional attention and deatiual do internals of voting machines discussed in public.
Nov 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Trump campaign counsel repeatedly accused Dominion and its officers of criminal conduct and business improprieties. Those are categories of "per se defamation" under the common law. No special damages must be shown in such per se cases. Individual officers could bring defamation claims and the company itself could bring a business disparagement action.

Businesses can be defamed like individuals if the false statement injures the business character of the corporation or its prestige and standing in the industry. In Dun & Bradstreet, Inc. v. Greenmoss Builders, Inc ., 472 U.S. 749 (1985) the Supreme Court allowed a business to sue a credit reporting agency for defamation where the agency mistakenly reported that the business had filed for bankruptcy.

Restatement Second § 561 Defamation of Corporations states:

"One who publishes defamatory matter concerning a corporation is subject to liability to it

(a) if the corporation is one for profit, and the matter tends to prejudice it in the conduct of its business or to deter others from dealing with it, or

(b) if, although not for profit, it depends upon financial support from the public, and the matter tends to interfere with its activities by prejudicing it in public estimation."

Dominion appears to be a company with a Colorado headquarters.

There could be lawsuits in Colorado or the place of the alleged defamation. The lawsuit would likely be filed under state law but moved to federal court under diversity jurisdiction arguments.

The press conference was an explosion of potentially defamatory claims by individuals or companies. The only clear defense is truth. The team insists that it can prove these allegations. It may have to do so. Not only can the individual lawyers face such lawsuits but the Trump campaign itself could be liable under the principle of respondeat superior, where an employer is liable for the conduct of his employees when they are acting within the scope of their employment. Ironically, the Latin term means "let the master speak." The President or his campaign could be forced to speak in a defamation case if they have not spoken in the promised court filings.

[Nov 20, 2020] 'Numbers don't lie'- Georgia secretary of state delivers bad news to Trump after recount, as state called for Biden

It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes
Nov 20, 2020 | www.rt.com

He had to send out a correction shortly thereafter, however, saying that the certification process was still ongoing but would be completed later on Friday.

Raffensperger's announcement dropped hours after the Associated Press officially called Georgia in Biden's favor, a move the Trump campaign slammed in a public statement from senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis, who claimed the state recounted illegal ballots in their audit.

"This so-called hand recount went exactly as we expected because Georgia simply recounted all of the illegal ballots that had been included in the total," she said.

President Trump has claimed he would have won in Georgia if not for voter fraud. Thousands of new votes were found in the recount, but they did not sway the outcome in his favor. Trump previously tweeted he did not have faith in Georgia's recount and slammed it as a "joke."

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Biden's victory in Georgia marks the first time a Democrat presidential candidate has won the state since 1992.

Trump continues to refuse to concede the race to Biden, claiming voter fraud occurred in multiple states, including Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

The president's lawyers, including Rudy Giuliani, presented their case for fraud during a Thursday press conference, citing numerous allegations, including Republican poll watchers not being allowed to properly observe counting, that Trump ballots were dumped, and thousands more fraudulent ballots were counted.

Mickey Mic 1 hour ago 20 Nov, 2020 12:22 PM

If the elections were fair and nobody cheated, we should have both sides counting the votes, as they live stream it on the internet so everyone in the world can observe the count in real time. Monitors are rejected only to cover up the biggest criminal heist of votes in US history as there is no other motivation to exclude the monitors from viewing the ballots. PS: Receipts can take away most fraud by paper on electronically !

[Nov 20, 2020] Can illiterate people vote in America

Nov 20, 2020 | www.quora.com

John Ohkuma Thiel , Never miss an opportunity to vote in an election. Answered August 31 · Author has 3.6K answers and 3M answer views

It's an interesting bit of history. When Black people gained the right to vote, a common voter suppression tactic was to require questions be answered correctly to qualify. So a White person would go to register and they would ask them a very simple question, like spelling their own name for example, but when a Black person tried to vote they would be asked something difficult like to exactly quote an amendment to the Constitution or the distance in kilometers to the Sun.

Literacy is fairly subjective. If you ask me most native English speakers are actually literate in their own language. They know the basics, but nothing more than that.

And yet they can vote. They can, they're permitted to vote, and obviously they do in great numbers. Richard Black , Ba Literature, Duke University (1974) Answered July 9, 2018 · Author has 4K answers and 1.1M answer views

Most illiterate voters (dropouts) vote democrat. Those simply ignorant of science vote republican. Other statistical likelihoods:

Mark Cascella , Licensed Professional Engineer at New Jersey Answered March 14, 2018 · Author has 276 answers and 186.7K answer views

Yes, they can and they do.

The question is- what kind of information do they get you from where?

[Nov 20, 2020] 6 Factors Which Point to a Rigged Election

Nov 20, 2020 | off-guardian.org

The US Election is still a burning issue almost two weeks after the people went to the polls, and though the race has been called for Biden by every mainstream media outlet in the world, the recounts are ongoing and irregularities manifest.

Trump's legal team, and many in the alternate media, are claiming the election was rigged. With one voice the mainstream media – and the entire political establishment – denounce these claims as "baseless", and scream there is "no evidence".

This is incorrect. There is plenty of evidence, both circumstantial and direct, which breaks down into six basic categories:

Precedent – It has happened before. Motive – Deep State/Military dislike of Trump's policies is widely known. Foreknowledge – Establishment voices predicted this exact situation. Opportunity – The voting system is highly susceptible to fraud. Voting Irregularities – Known software "glitches" & irregularities in the reporting of the results. Cover-up – Dishonesty in the reporting of the situation. 1. PRECEDENT

There is plenty of evidence that US elections have been rigged before.

Nobody is talking about it much, but US elections have been rigged before. Everyone is more than familiar with the 2000 election, which was called for Al Gore before Florida flipped to Bush and swung the election. The controversy over "hanging chads" and misplaced votes was all people talked about for weeks.

One noteworthy "error" with electronic voting machines, switched over 10000 votes from Gore to an obscure third-party candidate.

After weeks of legal battles, Gore eventually conceded. Within a year the "attacks" of 9/11 had happened, and the US was at war in Afghanistan and planning six more wars within 3 years .

More recently, it was revealed the DNC had gone out of its way to hand Hillary the presidential nomination over Sanders in 2016. Then in the 2020 primaries, despite embarrassingly lopsided losses in the first few primaries, Biden's presidential campaign had a "miraculous turnaround", thanks largely to irregularities in postal ballots in Ohio , Wisconsin and New Jersey .

This is evidence of precedent.

2. MOTIVE

The US Deep State has clear and publicly known motives for wanting to remove Trump from office.

It is no secret that many members of the US's political establishment oppose Trump and Trump's policies. This includes neo-con warmongers and chiefs of the military and intelligence agencies.

"The Resistance", billed as some voice of the progressive alternative, boasted former members of George Bush's cabinet as members.

The most strident opposition to Trump was on foreign policy – most specifically in the Middle East. Trump was committed to withdrawing from Syria, in direct opposition to the "Assad Must Go" crowd at the Pentagon and State Dept.

Just last week it was revealed that Department of Defense actually lied to Trump about their troop numbers in Syria , claiming to have pulled out almost everyone whilst they actually kept their covert war going.

Conversely, Biden has always been firmly in the establishment camp on Syria, and many warmongers are already predicting that Biden will want to "restore some dignity" to the Syrian people.

The US Deep State has carried out coups all around the world, many of them bloody and violent, in order to maintain Imperial ambitions and keep wars-for-profit going. They have every motive to want to remove Trump and put Biden in his place.

This is evidence of motive.

3. FOREKNOWLEDGE

Establishment voices have been predicting, and planning for, this exact situation for almost a year .

In January of this year – well before anyone could have predicted the effect the "pandemic" would have on the world – legal scholars were Wargaming the outcome of a disputed Presidential election based on postal ballots in Pennsylvania.

In August a group naming themselves the Transition Integrity Project published a document predicting a "disputed" election, that the counting would take much longer than usual and that it would not be certain who was President until January.

More generally, the outcome of the election was widely "predicted", with multiple press outlets claiming there would be a "red mirage" and a "blue shift". Meaning it would look like Trump would win, and then suddenly Biden would win at the last minute.

This is evidence of foreknowledge.

4. OPPORTUNITY

There is plenty of evidence that the US voting system is open to potential corruption.

Voting machines, for example, are owned and distributed by private companies . Many of which have political ties. An article in the Guardian, of all places, went into great detail about this just last year, when they were suggesting that Trump may have stolen the 2016 election.

Likewise, postal ballots are known to be susceptible to fraud. William Barr, the Attorney General, summed it up in a television interview in September, and written reports in 2007 and earlier this year , have gone into great detail about historical cases of postal vote fraud and possibilities of future occurrences.

This is evidence of opportunity.

5. VOTING IRREGULARITIES

There are plenty of irregularities in the results which suggest the possibility of something strange going on.

The story of the election by the numbers doesn't really make logical sense. The turnout is said to be 72%, the highest in 120 years, and the first over 60% for over 50 years.

In the process Joe Biden, we are told, shattered Barack Obama's popular vote record by almost 10 million votes.

Joe Biden?

This Joe Biden?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hkP9s4ISlpI

got more votes than Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton?

Meanwhile Donald Trump increased his own popular vote by over 10 million, whilst increasing his vote share in almost every ethnic demographic, as well as with women and LGBT voters .

Making him the first incumbent president to increase his popular vote but still lose in over a century, and the only one since all 50 states were part of the union.

Even if you believe that narrative is possible, there's more than enough evidence of voting irregularities to warrant at least questioning the result and investigating further.

In one Michigan county an error in the software configuration swung thousands of votes from Republican to Democrat and called a Congressional seat for the wrong party .

This error was only spotted because of the historically republican record of the county. In a more hotly disputed seat, this error could potentially never have been picked up.

Another Michigan county reported an error which switched 5,500 votes from Trump to Biden – a swing of 11,000 votes.

The software used in this county is used in 30 other states – including Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania, all of which were decided by less than 1% of the vote, and any two of which could swing the election to Trump.

In fact Dominion, the company which supplied the questionable voting software, was denied a contract by the state of Texas in 2019 when judges found there were "concerns" about "whether [it] is safe from fraudulent or unauthorized manipulation" .

A subsidiary of Dominion was kicked out of the Philippines for being too easy to hack .

This video clip appears to show CNN's coverage switching over 19,000 votes from Trump to Biden in Pennsylvania.

The graphed results of both Michigan and Wisconsin show decidedly odd jumps in Biden's vote.

The counting itself was also deeply suspect, with several states taking almost a week to count the last few percent of the vote, whilst managing to count over 90% of the vote on the first evening. In Wisconsin the National Guard were brought in to "transcribe" damaged ballots , whilst in Pennsylvania they were allowed to count postal votes with "no clear post mark" , fairly obviously

As Glen Greenwald wrote, the very fact the count was so arduous and complicated raises questions about the outcome .

6. THE COVER-UP

The media are engaging in lies and censorship.

To state there is "no evidence" of election rigging is a lie. There is plenty of evidence. Every news outlet, channel and website is singing from the same hymn sheet on this – even Fox News, so often Trump's supposed favourite channel.

Even before the election, as discussed above, all the mainstream media were running articles defending mail-in ballots, and claiming that they are not historically weak to voter fraud. This is totally untrue , as anyone who cared to research the topic would tell you.

In fact many countries have incredibly rigid controls on postal voting for exactly that reason.

And then, after the election, social media companies and mainstream media outlets censor the President of the United States .

So, why are all the media telling the same lies? Why are people being denied a platform?

This is evidence of a cover-up.

*

Ask yourself:

If, in 2016, some voting software used in 30 states had flipped 5500 from Hillary to Trump, and later been revealed to be financially tied to the Republican party, would that have been "just a glitch", or evidence of cheating? If the Brexit referendum had swung violently to Leave after dumps of suspect postal ballots were permitted into the count by a judge who was a known Brexit supporter, would the media have kept quiet? If, in Russia, the media denied a platform to the opposition to accuse Putin of voter fraud, would that be "responsible media practice", or evidence of bias and censorship?

We don't know exactly what happened, or how the election was result was controlled, but as of right now the specifics do not matter.

The point is there is plenty of evidence suggesting something happened, more than enough to warrant asking rational questions and expecting reasonable answers.

Every time the media ignores the evidence, or censors those seeking it, they only display further that there must be some fire behind all of this smoke.


John Ervin , Nov 18, 2020 3:57 AM

From the coda above: "The point is there is plenty of evidence suggesting something happened, more than enough to warrant asking rational questions and expecting reasonable answers."

Of course, but as Gore Vidal, no slouch as an historian and observer of the American scene, said on WBAI at this time of year in 2004: "our elections which are pretty much rigged from the get go."

I've spent thousands of hours on this American vote-rigging beat, and I will say straight up that historically, whatever vote tampering the Democrats have done in a retail capacity, the Republican Party owns many franchises on the wholesale end.

That's just a fact. I have too many thousands of now dusty pages on this to summarize, yet I have even been invited by Bev Harris back in the day to guest interview some of the principals, like Ion Sancho and Victoria Collier, though for now just two fun facts:

Sen. Chuck Hagel, hard core right wing Republican war hawk, is (or was) part OWNER of ES&S voting company, (out of Omaha, Nebraska, a frequent investment stop for Ken Lay, convict supervillain fraudster) which at one point has counted as much as 80% of the American "vote" -- and Hagel greatly benefitted by a 60% (SIXTY!) vote swing (cf. polls) thru his company's machines in his original race to unseat the incumbent Democrat.

The legendary Republcan huckster Wally O'Dell of Diebold in Ohio who "promised" the election to W.

Bob Ney, of Ohio, in cahoots with all this, was the Republican head of HAVA, and resigned a few years later in a thick fog of alcoholism and the Abramoff scandal and later confessed it was the drink that made him do it, too late to undo the very decisive damage to our voting process.

I could go on through literally hundreds of like scenarios, if not actually thousands –seriously–almost all of them by Republican perps.

Or, 99+%, like our Covid survival data.

And suddenly that has all shifted to the polar opposite, like the Mayan Calendar was purported to predict for the Earth's axis in 2012?

REALLY?

I can believe anything, as a chronic Conspiracy Realist, but seriously

Steve Rendall , Nov 18, 2020 12:02 AM

Gotta love the "Foreknowledge" section suggesting nefarious goings-on because people who followed the news knew that in-person election day votes favoring the GOP would be counted first, in most cases; and early and mail-in votes favoring Democrats would be counted later. Malice aforethought!

Seriously, this is stupid.

Sophie - Admin1 , Nov 18, 2020 9:48 AM Reply to Steve Rendall

Why would mail-in ballots be counted separately? And why would they necessarily favor democrats? You seem to be making big assumptions and using them to breezily dismiss a lot of actual data.

maxine , Nov 17, 2020 7:30 PM

The real rigging began way before the election when the Democratic National Committee rigged the primaries both in 2016 and 2020, making sure that Bernie Sanders (who was ahead in all the polls and whose goals matched those of the vast majority) lost .Instead they chose warmongering, corporate Neo-Liberals, Hillary Clinton & Joe Biden who cared nothing about the 99%.

I despise all these Neo-Liberal Democrats .I despise Donald Trump .But I get the feeling that you would have preferred a 2nd Donald Trump term .Could that be because he's on the same page as O-G regarding COVID? .Just wondering.

John Ervin , Nov 18, 2020 6:22 AM Reply to maxine

All that primary rigging stuff has been rendered suspect, and is almost surely false-flagging, like the Russky 2016 "hacks" are bufoonishly lame and easy to refute. Even guys at my gym who aren't even remotely afficionados saw how ridiculous the allegations were, and Dave Emory has broadcast chapter and verse exposing all that and its nonsensicality.

But now it's a canard firmly entrenched for years to come.

Right here, In the USA?! What a surprise.

Sophie - Admin1 , Nov 18, 2020 9:53 AM Reply to John Ervin

The DNC basically admitted rigging the primaries in 2016 for Hillary. The data is out there.

Ort , Nov 18, 2020 10:23 PM Reply to Sophie - Admin1

Indeed. In the lawsuit against the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz for rigging the 2016 Democratic primaries, DNC lawyers successfully argued that the Democratic Party is a non-profit corporation. As such, and more to the point, its charter permits party officials to secretly rig their internal selection processes (primaries) as they please– it's all strictly legit.

The DNC position prevailed, thus establishing that in the US, political party officials are perfectly entitled to craft secret plans to preserve their grip on power, and can engage in as much jiggery-pokery as they please; the party has no legal obligation to play fair in its internal procedures, much less disclose its self-serving scams and schemes to its loyal constituency.

Although it's virtually superfluous to state this, moral and ethical considerations are simply irrelevant and immaterial; business is business.

Paul Vonharnish , Nov 18, 2020 2:49 PM Reply to maxine

Hello maxine: You are right. The Democratic National Committee has been rigging elections for decades. "Democratic" voters refuse to wake up and notice the burnt coffee. The electoral college has also become a rigged stage, and acts in gross conflict with the original functions of the 8th Amendment.

Ask Tulsi Gabbard about effective DNC stone walling of her candidacy. Tulsi was the only vocal anti-war candidate in the primaries. The CIA and military contractors won the selection -- again

[Nov 20, 2020] Why Facebook, Twitter, Google, Fox News, CNN, and more giant corporations keep screaming at us that there was no election fraud

Because they are part of it ;-)
Pretty damning condemnation of fake news at 51:50
Nov 20, 2020 | www.nytimes.com
DNC PoliticalPrisoner 31 minutes ago Many wouldn't have believed there was election fraud except the media and Big Tech keep insisting that there wasn't. Facebook, Twitter, Google, Fox News, CNN, and more giant corporations keep screaming at us via notifications, messages, and broadcasts that there was no election fraud. Now, we're starting to think maybe there is something fishy going on.

[Nov 19, 2020] Trump Campaign Legal Team Exposes They describe a process of vote switching as well as "trashing" Trump votes through a simple drag and click process

If you mail-in vote and you own election board it does matter how people votes
Compressed coverage: Watch again- Trump's legal team holds press conference about the election - YouTube Pretty damning condemnation of fake news at 51:50
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQCdCSDWQQ&feature=emb_logo
Nov 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

During the presser, Giuliani also said there is a pattern in the voting data that suggests "a plan from a centralized place" to commit voter fraud in Democrat-run cities. Giuliani also said the Trump campaign will likely bring a lawsuit to Arizona.

They also said they have testimony from an insider who they say unearthed provable fraud regarding voting machines and software used in multiple states.

They describe a process of vote switching as well as "trashing" Trump votes through a simple drag and click process.

Additionally, they say this election involved a manipulation of the ballot count in a foreign country.

"This is a massive, coordinated, well-funded effort to deprive we the people of the United States of our fundamental right under the U.S. Constitution to preserve this Constitution republic we all cherish."

- Sidney Powell

And they describe multiple incidents where the number of votes cast far exceeded the population of the public in that county, including children.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

Democrats deny there is any evidence of "widespread fraud." They and the news media have broadly called the election for Joe Biden and urged President Trump to concede.

Surprise, surprise, not everyone was buying what Giuliani and Powell were selling.

"You are watching the last gasp of this legal effort by the president," Wendy Weiser, director of the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center for Justice, told ABC News .

"This has been a flailing legal effort that hasn't raised any real issues from the get-go. We all knew how this movie would end. If I was writing the screenplay I would end it here."

Below you can watch the entire news conference and hear the claims of evidence to make up your own mind as to what you think about it.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/buQCdCSDWQQ

* * *

As we detailed ahead of the press briefing, with many questioning where this going next, though J PM's Michael Cembalest admits there is still a chance , President Trump's legal team is holding a press briefing to outline their strategy.

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In one post in a stream of tweets, Trump said the legal team will give an "important news conference today" and that they will explain their plans for a "very clear and viable path to victory".

"Pieces are very nicely falling into place," the president tweeted.

By one count, Trump campaign legal efforts to overturn election results or force recounts have been successful just once and suffered 26 defeats... so for the 70 million-plus Trump voters, we hope that Giuliani has a trick or two up his sleeve.


Eyeroller , 2 hours ago

Whether Trump wins or loses, the Dominion grift of American elections is OVER!
All because they overplayed their hand when they had to stop the count and recalibrate the machines to overcome Trumps massive lead. If this election had been close we would have never known...

jim942 , 2 hours ago

The cat is definitely out of the bag on Dominion.

JimmyJones , 50 minutes ago

That was a refreshing press conference, everyone should watch it in it's entirety. I think Rudy G, has them by the "balls" Sidney Powells work on the Dominion side is huge with the inside whistle blower. The Dems are toast, be prepared for the Dems to unleash ANtifa and try to burn down the world once it hits the supreme court.

truth or go home , 40 minutes ago

Folks,

It is not enough to know that Dominion is bad and the next election will be fair. They will whitewash right over that company and it will appear again with another name before you can ever think about it.

I said it two weeks ago, and I will say it again now. This is not a won or lost election. This was a Coup. It is time for Trump to declare marshal law, send the military in and take this thing back, assuming he knows for a fact that they won in a landslide - which is pretty obvious now.

This is not going to end well in a legal battle - the other side obviously has zero respect for what is legal or fair - they don't care - they will pay off whoever or do whatever they have to to get their way.

The hill is right here, right now. Send the military into the media offices and shut them down, until a new staff can be arranged who will give a fair account of news.

Takeover Twitter, Facebook and Google - throw out the owners and the leaders, and install a group of folks who will abide by the law.

Take control of the CIA, the FBI and the Justice department, plus the CDC and the NIH, which have all participated in this Coup.

Then - set up a new, free and fair election, and allow Joe to win on his own merits. No cheating on any side. An election by the people.

GreatUncle , 26 minutes ago

@JimmyJones

I liked the bit when Powell confirmed the German raid ... WTF!!! It was true.

HungryPorkChop , 1 hour ago

I think we can say the cat is out of the bag for ANY computerized voting machine. They will never be viewed the same again.

I'm still bewildered why everyone which votes is not given a 12 digit code they can visit a secure website that will show the results. They enter in their 12 digit code and it pulls up who they voted for.. Credit card companies have had this ability for 30+ years. All major retailers use this system worldwide on a daily basis 24 hrs non-stop. Not sure why the election process cannot use 30 year old technology to help validate and make sure votes were counted and counted correctly. Something smells...

Mr. Bones , 1 hour ago

Anonymity

A voter couldn't be compelled to view a certain way. Granted, that all goes out the window with ballot harvesting or mail-ins so...

GreatUncle , 20 minutes ago

Fails mate ... they give you a 12 digit code so you can see your vote right?

AI will tell you what you want to know but run another set of books with the name of who the AI cast the vote for.

It is too the point ... any computerised electronic system is open to fraud that only voting in person at the box with a legitimate ID prevents.

Even then it is who the vote is finally applied too ... in this case we have found a machines can fraudulently apply votes a lot faster than a human.

jim942 , 2 hours ago

Trump is not a quitter. The fight will go on.

Herdee , 2 hours ago

If you think that it makes any difference who sits in the Chair as the stooge master and puppet then I've got a bridge to sell you. It's all propaganda for the dumbed down sheeple American population. Welcome to The New World Order.

Dangertime , 2 hours ago

By that blackpill logic we will never win.

eatapeach , 2 hours ago

Herdee is right. The circus is scripted. They are both AIPAC/MIC candidates and they both do as their masters dictate.

gmrpeabody , 1 hour ago

Just because you would rather rollover doesn't mean everyone else wants to...

Another Comment , 1 hour ago

No one is saying that. But you have to make sure you're fighting the right battle. Watch what the magician is doing, not showing.

Omnibrad , 56 minutes ago

The American people have already rolled over for decades now. Wake up. The same people own the D party and the R party, and Trump is no exception. They own the schools. They own the press. They own the civil institutions. They own TV. They own Google and other big corps. They own the public square and censor you. And what have you done during these decades besides roll over?

"It may be inferred again that the present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, Northern conservatism. This [Northern conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always when about to enter a protest very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its "bark is worse than its bite," and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance: The only practical purpose which it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it "in wind," and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy, from having nothing to whip."
-Robert Lewis Dabney

aiinvestor , 1 hour ago

Infrequent voters in precincts with high turnout. State says they voted early/abs, but told us they did not cast a ballot:

State/Counts/% of Sample (who answered the question)

AZ / 21 / 0.94%
GA / 24 / 0.85%
MI / 18 / 2.80%
NV / 25 / 2.22%
PA / 22 / 0.70%
WI / 23 / 0.66%

Source:

https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1329477772822065152

Absolutely nuts!

SDShack , 1 hour ago

Yep, that is what I can't figure out. It shows they are guilty because they are doing everything they can to hide it. Refusing repug poll watchers, refusing recounts, refusing absentee ballot signature matches, etc. and the list goes on and on. What ever happened to "it's the seriousness of the charge" that demorats said over and over when justifying all THEIR investigations even though they know they had NO EVIDENCE? In this case, there is REAL EVIDENCE of fraud that is being shown that has affected THOUSANDS of ballots, and the charge is this is just the tip of the iceberg. The potential for HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS or even millions of fraud ballots not only can change the election, but will change the demorat party forever. This is why they are fighting this. This is their Pickett's Charge.

ronin12 , 1 hour ago

Just the stuff Rudy is talking about in Philly and Detroit is INSANE.

It's crazy how corrupt these people are.

Shut. It. Down. , 59 minutes ago

Christopher Wray is too busy looking under rocks for non-existent "white supremacists" to be bothered with the theft of a presidential election.

Feel it Reel it , 1 hour ago

Biden/Harris barley ran a Campaign knowing full fell the voter fraud scam was in......Biden/Harris were just going through the motions to give the Illusion of a legitimate campaign when in fact it was a massive fraud......

Hoax Fatigue , 15 minutes ago

Yes. This is why they did the absolute minimum amount of campaigning. Zero sense of urgency against a guy drawing gigantic crowds because they deluded themselves into believing the fix was in.

Barnacles , 59 minutes ago

Holy wow. Sydney confirmed the Germany server was picked up by someone! Don't know if it's the good or bad guys.

Totally_Disillusioned , 23 minutes ago

Don't overlook Rudy's response to CNN using lack of FBI investigating in smearing Trump's campaign lawsuits...

"Where are you FBI? I don't know where the FBI has been for the last four years. our country has had its ballots counted, calculated and manipulated in a foreign country with a company controlled by friends of an enemy of the United States. What do we have to do to get the FBI to wake up? Maybe we need a new agency to protect us."

Perhaps a prescient statement of changes to come.

spyware-free , 1 hour ago

haha...Rudy doxxing Coomer now.

Pack your sh1t Eric. you're on the patriot radar now.

GreatUncle , 6 minutes ago

Yep ... bragged he was number one kingpin at Dominion on this.

I so like technology nowhere you can hide in this world too escape this.

Here is his deal ... give up your handler or get 100 years inside like on the movies no parole.

Then lets see how fast they kill him.

But then let the state execute him to get the dead mans handle of data of everything.

Nowhere too go but a coffin.

herbivore , 13 minutes ago

This was a powerful presentation that Giuliani and his legal team put on. As one of them stated, it was an overview of what they would present to a jury, not an evidentiary presentation. If they have the evidence that proves their charges, they win before a jury, but if they have to rely on a corrupt-to-the-core judiciary, they probably lose.

Nature_Boy_Wooooo , 46 minutes ago

So basically they used Nate Silver's crappy projections as a confidence interval for how many votes they assumed Trump would get. They then set the coefficient to adjust a certain amount of votes to Biden to move him slightly ahead of Trump without drawing attention to the fraud.

At 3 a.m. the number of Trump votes moved way outside of their projected confidence interval because Nate Silver's model sucks. At this point the 'educated' Democrats were soundly asleep and the stupid Democrats had to make adjustments to the vote adjustment coefficient..... that is when everything went wrong.

Nature_Boy_Wooooo , 30 minutes ago

It's most likely some type of linear regression machine learning algorithm that they were using.

They trained the model either on past data or fabricated data based on Nate Silver's crappy projections. The model was over fit with Nate Silver's crappy projections so in their simulations their model made good predictions and was able to adjust the votes to slowly move Biden into the lead.

But over fit models perform poorly on outliers. Trump was a big outlier and over performed Nate Silver's crappy projections.

Teamtc321 , 34 minutes ago

BOOM: Election Fraud Expert Russ Ramsland Files Affidavit Showing 'PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY' of Election Results in Michigan

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-election-fraud-expert-russ-ramsland-files-affidavit-showing-physical-impossibility-election-results-michigan/

[Nov 19, 2020] Trump Election Results- Tensions Rise as Allies Attack Process - The New York Times

Pretty damning condemnation of fake news at 51:50
Nov 19, 2020 | www.nytimes.com
DNC PoliticalPrisoner 31 minutes ago Many wouldn't have believed there was election fraud except the media and Big Tech keep insisting that there wasn't. Facebook, Twitter, Google, Fox News, CNN, and more giant corporations keep screaming at us via notifications, messages, and broadcasts that there was no election fraud. Now, we're starting to think maybe there is something fishy going on.

[Nov 19, 2020] Polls are a tool of voter supression

In a free society you need to convince citizens of the government legitimacy.
Nov 19, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Tucker: We heard you. It's hard to trust anything. Here's what we know.

[Nov 19, 2020] Tucker- Big Tech s coordinated suppression amounts to a censorship cartel

Nov 19, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Tucker Carlson exposes American corporations for teaming up to censor political opponents.

Clare Breanna , 8 hours ago

Seems like they want to isolate everyone. Makes us all vulnerable.

jim hall , 8 hours ago

Electing buying is like having a Trojan horse coming into this White House


Kirk Patrick
, 5 hours ago

Republican Senators to Big Tech: "Why are you censoring Americans?" Democrat Senators to Big Tech: "Why don't you censor Americans more?"

[Nov 19, 2020] In Shocking Reversal, Wayne County Election Board Republicans Rescind Certifications; Claim Family Threatened

Nov 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

In a stunning development out of Wayne County, Michigan - two GOP members of the Board of Canvassers have rescinded their certifications of the Nov. 3 vote, claiming they were bullied into approving the election results in the state's most populous county, which includes Detroit and surrounding areas.


yerfej , 58 minutes ago

I don't see how Biden could receive any votes as no one would be stupid enough to vote for a corrupt dementia addled bag man insider? Or are people on the left so desperate that they can't see through the con?

Ancient Handicapper , 43 minutes ago

yerfej, People agree with your description of Biden, perhaps, but TRUMP IS WORSE! That's why they voted for Mr. Biden. (Thank goodness!)

[Nov 18, 2020] The "Dominion" of Election Fraud- by Brett Redmayne

Nov 18, 2020 | www.unz.com

" The maintenance of Americans' constitutional rights should not depend on the good graces and sketchy ethics of a handful of well-connected corporations who have stonewalled Congress, lied to Congress, and have questionable judgment when it comes to security "

-Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore)

Barely two weeks ago allegations that the 2020 US Presidential election had been rigged on behalf of DNC presidential spawn Joe Biden were met with almost universal scepticism. This past week may have changed that.

In the article of Monday, Nov 9 the author examined the problems with the mail-in ballot totals in the five key swing states and the legal and legislative challenges to them including re-counts and the SCOTUS intervention of the PA Supreme Court.

The subject of alleged DNC election fraud has now shifted to an examination of the machines that count each ballot and render the results. The voter is supposed to believe that Joe Biden defeated Trump and at the same time lost seats in the US House and state legislatures. This is possible but highly improbable.

Today, Nov 17, in preparation for a multi-state legal challenge to results created by these voting machines, lead Trump attorney and former Assistant US Attorney Sidney Powell, said:

"They need to investigate the likelihood that 3% of the vote total was changed in the pre-election voting ballots that were collected digitally by using the Hammer program and the software program called Scorecard. That would have amounted to a massive change in the vote."

Here, begins that examination. As shown, there is reason for concern.

Numbers don't lie. Mounting evidence to date suggests that voting machines do, particularly the ones sold by Dominion Voting Systems Inc. As the third part of this chronology begins it has now become obvious that Trump's campaign operatives expected election fraud. They have since very quickly brought legal challenges to bear in AZ, GA, MI, PA, WI, and NV. However, most of this news first circled around only the mail-in ballots.

From Trump's perspective, as of this writing, 87,804 (WI-20,540; GA-14,045; PA- 53,219) are needed to flip the election. MI is the toughest and shows Biden up by a reported 146,123 votes.

Interestingly, regarding the numbers in each state- and AZ- the Dominion voting machine's results are in dispute in all. Whereas, the proceedings regarding the mail-in ballots may provide a switch of perhaps thousands of votes, issues with the Dominion machines, if proven, could be in the 100's of Thousands. Or More.

This past week, evidence is surfacing.

Before 2020: Warning Signs

Days before the 2020 election important news was buried. On September 30 a report in the Philadelphia Inquirer detailed that "a laptop and several memory sticks" used to program Dominion voting machines in Philadelphia had mysteriously vanished.

But concerns about Dominion had begun far earlier.

The U.S. Constitution leaves election management up to state and local officials, so voting systems and protocols vary across thousands of jurisdictions. Partly for this reason, a 2019 investigation was launched by senators Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), and other Democratic lawmakers into the three largest suppliers of US digital voting machines, Dominion Voting Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Hart InterCivic. Together they hold over 92% of all US distribution of voting machines.

In review, the Senate committee wrote to all three firms saying in part,

"(W)e have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment including the election technology industry -- an integral part of our nation's democratic process These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack."

The Committee revealed that the Dominion machines were vulnerable to internal and internet hacking. Because all these machines interface their ballot totals via wireless digital modem external interference is all too possible. Further concerns were provided by NBC news in very early 2020.

In the State of Texas , well before the 2020 election Dominion Voting Systems and their proprietary "Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5 " was rejected three times. From the summary:

"The reports identified multiple hardware and software issues that preclude the Office of the Texas Secretary of State from determining that the Democracy Suite 5.5-A system satisfies each of the voting-system requirements Specifically, [if] the system is suitable for its intended purpose; operates efficiently and accurately; and is safe from fraudulent or unauthorized manipulation."

A 2019 report by the Brennan Center for Justice highlighted a lack of vendor oversight, raising this Congressional concern about voting machines in general, according to The Associated Press

Previously, Federal regulation attempts on voting machines in 2018 were fruitless since this was opposed by some state election officials and the White House on the grounds that it would impose on states' rights.

A prudent measure that had some bipartisan support ( S. 2593 in the 115th Congress ) ended up going nowhere. Introduced by Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) this bill would have required voting machines to produce a printout to let election officials confirm electronic votes. Lankford and Wyden had said that they intended to reintroduce paper-trail bills. They did not.

The Penn Wharton Public Policy Initiative published a report that explored their attempts to look into Dominion and other voting companies:

"Part of the challenge is that it is difficult to compile even basic facts about it. The industry earns an estimated $300 million in revenue annually is dominated by three firms [and is] limiting the amount of information available in the public domain about their operations and financial performance."

Nonetheless, Republicans and Democrats agreed in a 2018 omnibus bill ( Public Law 115-141 ) to divide among the states $380 million for voting system upgrades. Georgia's legislature also approved a plan to spend as much as $150 million on equipment that cybersecurity researchers say is still hackable . Most of that equipment was supplied by Dominion.

According to Business Insider , Georgia "became the only state in the country last year to overhaul its entire election system, paying Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems $106 million for new voting machines, printers and scanners."

The NY Times reported that some Democrats in the Georgia Legislature opposed purchasing the Dominion system and there is "some evidence that heavy lobbying and sales tactics have played a role in their adoption in Georgia and elsewhere."

In hotly contested Georgia, during 2019's test run a now-deleted Atlanta Journal Constitution article detailed "a glitch" that surfaced when six counties tested the Dominion system. The problem occurred in at least four of the six counties where the new voting system was being tested before being used statewide during the March 24 presidential primary. The problems weren't rectified by primary date, which was moved to June due to the coronavirus pandemic. According to the New York Times :

"Georgia's statewide primary elections on Tuesday were overwhelmed by a full-scale meltdown of new voting systems Scores of new state-ordered voting machines were reported to be missing or malfunctioning, and hours-long lines materialized at polling places across Georgia. Some people gave up and left before casting a ballot Predominantly black areas experienced some of the worst problems.

Who is Dominion?

Dominion Voting Systems is a company from Toronto, Canada , that has headquarters in Denver, Colorado, and is one of the three major firms providing voting machines in U.S. elections. The others are Election Systems & Software, and Hart InterCivic with ES&C in the top spot and Dominion at number two.

A 2014 form filed with the State of California says Dominion was founded in 2003 in Canada and in 2009 moved to the U.S. Its principal officers were listed as John Poulos, CEO; Ian MacVicar, CFO; and James Hoover, vice president of product line management. Dominion Voting Systems , claims to work with 1300 voting jurisdictions including nine of the 20 largest counties in the nation.

Dominion produced the software used in MI , GA and all the remaining states in question.

Like many corporations, Dominion purchased influence in congress. Bloomberg reported in April of last year that Dominion hired lobbying firm, Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck. House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi's former chief of staff, Nadeam Elshami, is one of the lobbyists for that firm.

At the state level, Dominion employs eight registered lobbyists in GA alone. They include Lewis Abit Massey , a former Democratic Georgia Secretary of State, and Jared Thomas, former chief of staff for Republican Governor Brian Kemp.

ES&S also has its own lobbying effort recently adding Peck Madigan Jones to the lobbying firm Vectre Corp. ES&S paid Vectre $80,000 during the last three months of 2018 alone. According to the Washington Post, Dominion also reported donating in between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Why the Clinton Foundation?

Locations of US voting machines: Dominion is shown in Orange; ES&S in Blue. (Source: Penn Warton)

The news site, Truthout, reported that Dominion "was recently acquired by New York-based hedge fund Staple Street Capital." An executive board member of Staple Street Capital, William Earl Kennard , is a former ambassador to the EU who was appointed to that position by Barack Obama. In 2018, Dominion publicly announced it had been acquired by its management team and Staple Street Capital.

Interestingly, on November 6, Deadline reported that Kennard was named to the board of WarnerMedia parent company to AT&T, which owns CNN .

Long ago, Dominion earned $44 million in 2012. It listed its addresses for manufacturing and development as Toronto; Belgrade, Serbia; Denver; Plano, Texas; and Baldwin Park, California. A 2020 filing lists their registered agent as Cogency Global in Florida. Its directors were listed as Hootan Yaghoobzadeh of Staple Street Capital, Stephen Owens , also of Staple Street, and Benjamin Humphreys. Yaghoobzadeh and Owens both have past ties to the Carlyle Group investment firm. In 2015, Carlyle was the world's largest private equity firm.

" Glitches."

Beyond the reports of problems with the mail-in ballots, in the aftermath of the election two weeks ago, the independent reports of voting machine irregularities have in combination developed serious concerns about Dominion and their software that they feature as "Democracy Suite 5.5." All of these problems favored Biden, never Trump.

First, on Tuesday, in the wee hours of the morning Dominion machines erroneously gave Democratic candidate Joe Biden a 3,000 plus vote advantage in Antrim County, MI. After a manual recount of the votes, officials posted updated results showing President Trump won the county with 9,783 votes making up 56.46% of ballots cast. Joe Biden earned 7,289 votes or 42.07%. CNN "went blue" for Biden before the error was discovered.

With the machine results being utterly mathematically disconnected to the hand-count tally Antrim County officials have blamed the county's election software saying totals counted did not match tabulator tapes.

In Oakland County, Michigan, according to the Royal Oak Tribune another glitch in a completely different ballot counting system, Hart Intercivic, switched over 1,200 Republican votes to Democrat. The switch initially caused County Commissioner Adam Kochenderfer to lose. Once the glitch was found, and the votes were properly attributed, Kochenderfer went from losing by 100 votes to winning by over 1,100. Hart uses its proprietary system called Verity. Eleven Michigan counties use Hart's systems

Back in GA, voters were unable to cast machine ballots for a couple of hours in Morgan and Spalding counties after the electronic devices crashed, state officials said. In response to the delays, Superior Court Judge W. Fletcher Sams extended voting until 11 p.m.

The companies "uploaded something last night, which is not normal, and it caused a glitch," said Marcia Ridley, elections supervisor at Spalding County Board of Elections. Ridley said that a representative from Dominion called her after poll workers began having problems with the equipment Tuesday morning and said the problem was due to an upload to the machines by one of their technicians overnight. Said Ridley,

"That is something that they don't ever do. I've never seen them update anything the day before the election."

There is a reason for Ridley's observation. By GA law the machines are supposed to be certified for accurate use by the state before the election day. How was this possible with Dominion uploading data unknown during that night?

This matter may be far from over in GA. Trump has already filed for an injunction, per state statute, which cites, "These vote tabulator failures are a mechanical malfunction that, under MCL 168.831-168.839, requires a "special election" in the precincts affected." The keyword here is precincts. Plural.

In Oakland County Michigan, Dominion machine errors resulted in a Democrat being wrongly declared the winner of a commissioner's race by 104 votes – only to have their seat flip back to the rightful Republican candidate after the error was caught.

More importantly, Wisconsin reports came in that showed that the vote totals for Rock County appeared to be switched between President Trump and Joe Biden. 9,516 votes were eliminated from President Trump and moved to Joe Biden. If this one report is proved true, then the 19,032-vote shift would nearly wipe-out, of its own, Biden's reported 20,540 vote lead in Wisconsin and his electoral votes.

Pennsylvania and its twenty electoral votes are also hotly in contention. Dominion machines are being used in Armstrong, Carbon, Clarion, Crawford, Dauphin, Delaware, Erie, Fayette, Fulton, Luzerne, Montgomery, Pike, Warren, York counties.

State Sen. Kristin Phillips-Hill, R-York, says she started getting calls shortly after the polls opened Tuesday morning that the machines were jamming and causing delays.

Phillips also highlighted another problem. "If that ballot is rejected, for example, if they over-voted for county commissioner, and that ballot is rejected, then that person has no way of knowing that their vote has been invalidated. That's not acceptable," she said.

Due to Dominion machine delays, PA election officials admitted that if ballots could not be immediately scanned by the machines, those ballots were instead stored so they could be counted later in "emergency holding boxes will be scanned at the polling places."

Those "stored" ballots were not always scanned. The Pennsylvania GOP had to bring a lawsuit to ensure that all York County ballots were counted. These had been placed in suitcases quickly purchased by Dominion and none were scanned.

AZ is also reporting problems. Boasts Dominion's website: "Arizona: "Serving 2.2 million Maricopa County voters with Democracy Suite 5.5 "

Yep. Maricopa County. The contested county where this week, Arizona GOP Chair Rae Chorenky was been forced to resign after failing to sign the required Certificate of Accuracy for the Dominion voting machines.

Concerns Mount.

The key difficulty in examining potential election fraud by Dominion and possibly their counterparts is in going beyond isolated incidents and establishing a systemic fraud. One safety mechanism Dominion and other providers tout is that while voters might make their choices on a touchscreen machine, a paper ballot with a bar code is printed out where the voter can confirm their choices before inputting the paper ballot into a machine. Here's the problem, according to a US News story :

"[The machines] register votes in bar codes that the human eye cannot decipher. That's a problem, researchers say: Voters could end up with printouts that accurately spell out the names of the candidates they picked, but, because of a hack, the bar codes do not reflect those choices. Because the bar codes are what's tabulated, voters would never know that their ballots benefited another candidate."

These bar codes are vitally important to the subject of election fraud. They are also of great interest to Ray Lutz of California based Citizen's Oversight.

For those unfamiliar with Lutz and Citizen's, his organization has garnered great respect across the state for, among other examples, championing the successful closure of the San Onofre Nuclear Generation Station (SONGS) and next the exposure of demonstrative election fraud in the 2016 California primary that tipped the scales for Hillary Clinton rather than Bernie Sanders. Lutz is no stranger to using the courts effectively for the public good.

To this end, Lutz just a month before the election announced the launch of Citizen's new ballot checking software called AuditEngine . In reply to an inquiry for data, Lutz said,

"We are still gathering information at this time. We may have a lawsuit in NC to get poll tapes data. Also, we will be seriously looking at PA."

In a press release this week Lutz forewarned:

"Ballot images can thwart changes to paper ballots, magically losing or finding new ballots in the recount. Citizens' Oversight today sent a request to keep the images By preserving the ballot images, we can make sure the paper ballots recounted in Georgia match ballot images that were made on election night, and are not modified by any unscrupulous campaign operatives."

As Citizen's takes a closer look at GA and possibly PA while others examine the swing states, the likely hood of this showing a massive shift towards Trump in every state is a difficult proposition. However, in the era of the citizen investigator, the work of one anonymous source is picking up traction, so much so that many alternative media sources are quoting it, as is the Trump campaign.

The methodology of this investigation is thorough but needs corroboration by experts. However, the person releasing this analysis obtained the same data as was captured by the New York Times on election night from Edison Research. It is the same data that was used for election coverage by ABC News, CBS News, CNN and NBC News. The report provides a careful and plausible methodology and a state-by-state list of votes switched from Trump to Biden and of votes simply erased by Dominion machines. His results show discrepancies- some very large- in every state and particularly in GA and PA where, if proven, those states would flip for Trump.

Following the Dots Down the Rabbit Hole?

For the reader who cares to look beyond "Plausible Deniability" and connect the dots of possibility, days before the election of Nov 3 Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney (Ret.) cast his own suspicions that were in keeping with the charges levelled today by Sidney Powell.

McInerney stated he was warned in 2018 by Admiral James Aloysius "Ace" Lyons Jr., just before his death, that a plot to fix the 2020 election was in the works. Lyons served as Commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet from 1985 to 1987. He also wrote a column about Seth Rich being the one who leaked the 2016 DNC email tranche that blew HRC out of the water and which The Washington Times deleted.

McInerney, although previously discredited for his backing of the 2002 Iraq "weapons of mass destruction" claims, thus described the two US/ CIA covert operations called "Hammer" and "Scorecard." Both were designed for the CIA in the aftermath of 9/11.

The author has verified the existence of both programs.

" The Hammer" is a counter-intelligence surveillance program used to spy on activities carried out through protected networks (like voting machines) without detection. "Scorecard" is a vote-manipulation application that changes votes during data transfer.

Adding credence to the allegations of both men is a previous report by Alan Jones and Mary Fanning of the American Report that was published on March 17, 2017 . The claims in that report mirror those of Lyons and McInerney and refer to the information provided by the man who designed both Hammer and Scorecard, Dennis Montgomery, who has turned whistleblower.

Montgomery states that Hammer and Scorecard were designed by him under the supervision of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper and then CIA director John Brennan. In a subsequent article, The American Report connects the dots from Brennan and Clapper to Christopher Krebs, currently the head of the DHS's Cyber Security and Infrastructure Agency (CISA). It should be noticed that it is Krebs who has in recent days been the DHS point man for denying any and all allegations of election fraud as an MSM spokesperson on the matter.

[Breaking News: Moments ago, Trump fired Christopher Krebs effective immediately]

John Brennan, James Clapper and Krebs are all DNC disciples and have been vociferous in their public disdain for Trump over the past four years. With this and the week's aforementioned national news in mind, next came the news yesterday, that Sidney Powell considered the reports about Hammer and Scorecard credible, saying on Fox News, that,

" it explains a lot of what we're seeing All of those districts need to be checked for the software glitch that would change the vote for Michigan dramatically. The same thing is happening in other states. We've had hundreds of thousands of ballots appear for solely Mr Biden which is statistically impossible as a matter of mathematics. It can all be documented it is being put in files that we will file in federal court."

As if this all were not enough to create bi-partisan concern for the 2020 election, just moments ago it was revealed that a memory card was found during the audit in Fayette county GA with 2,755 votes, most of them for Trump. The news comes one day after 2,600 uncounted ballots were found on another memory card in Floyd County, GA – which were also mostly cast for President Trump.

The new margin total statewide in GA is now a 12,929 lead for Biden.

Observers might notice that there does not appear to be any sense of panic by the Trump campaign, nor their lawyers and that all have so far moved methodically via the courts and in announcing the steady stream of reported violations.

Certainly, Trump has lost in some court proceedings so far, but the big cases, such as the SCOTUS intervention with the rulings of the lower PA Supreme Court are still in play as are the states final vote certification, the results of which preclude further legal action.

[Breaking News: Officials in Wayne County, Michigan – home to the city of Detroit, have refused to certify the results of the Nov. 3 election.]

As suggested in the first article in this series, "Trump's (64Day) Election End Game" Trump continues to play the long game at least until the Jan 6 meeting of the Electoral College in Wash. DC. Since the time of that article, the subject of the Electoral College has been examined across the nation's news media and transformed from skepticism to probability.

What should become most important, if these many allegations come together as substantial truth, is that the issue of 2020 Election fraud must become a bi-partisan issue and quickly.

As was suggested in the previous article, "Of Color Revolutions, Foreign and Domestic," the advent of America's own color revolution may be at hand and become the most significant threat to America since the civil war. To view this only as an indictment of one party allows those loyal to that party to ignore consideration of facts. This will only split the country further.

To prevent a US color revolution, the one the Dems are already calling, "Purple," there must be a bi-partisan investigation by both sides of the aisle that transcends party loyalty to that of the priority of saving the country. Not Joe Biden. Not Donald Trump. Criminal charges and indictments must be brought against one and all proved to be involved in the attempt to circumvent the American election process.

That indictment: Treason.

About the Author: Brett Redmayne-Titley has authored and published over 180 in-depth articles over the past twelve years. Many have been translated and republished worldwide. He can be reached at: live-on-scene ((at)) gmx.com. Prior articles can be viewed at his archive: www.watchingromeburn.uk

[Nov 18, 2020] FEC Chairman- If Sidney Powell Says There Was Rampant Voter Fraud, 'I Believe Her'

Nov 18, 2020 | www.theepochtimes.com

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Dominion Voting Systems has denied several times to media outlets that its software and devices are not secure or that they were used to switch votes.

"Dominion Voting Systems categorically denies false assertions about vote switching issues with our voting systems," the company said in a statement . "Vote deletion/switching assertions are completely false."

"No credible reports or evidence of any software issues exist," the company stated, adding, "Human errors related to reporting tabulated results have arisen in a few counties, including some using Dominion equipment, but appropriate procedural actions were made by the county to address these errors were made prior to the canvass process."

A national coalition that includes the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and the National Association of State Election Directors said there is a lack of evidence supporting the claim that voting software deleted or switched votes in the election.

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised," a joint statement from the coalition said, and called the 2020 election "the most secure in American history."

Dominion Voting Systems is a member of CISA's Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council, one of two entities that authored the statement put out by CISA.

Trainor, in earlier remarks to Newsmax, said he believes locations where poll watchers were not allowed "meaningful access" to observe vote tabulation could be involved in voter fraud.

"I do believe that there is voter fraud taking place in these places," Trainor told the outlet . "Otherwise they would allow the observers to go in."

The official referred to a case in Pennsylvania, where a court ordered them to allow the Trump campaign to have poll observers watch from six feet away, but the order was defied.

"They have not been allowed that meaningful access," Trainor said, adding that if the law was broken in this regard, the election was "illegitimate."

[Nov 18, 2020] Stacey Abrams "My heart is full"; Probably the purse is full too

Stacey Abrams work for increasing turnout among minorities is all fake: the black share of Georgia's electorate fell to its lowest level since 2006
What is unclear whey it is considered a virtue to force people are not interested in politics and who do not want to vote to cast their votes
Nov 18, 2020 | thefederalist.com

The Huffington Post lauded Abrams's work driving up turnout among minorities.

"Experts say Black voter turnout in Georgia during the 2020 election likely broke records," read captions of a three-minute video, only for the unnamed "experts" to be shown completely off.

According to a subsequent analysis of updated voter data from The New York Times Tuesday, the black share of Georgia's electorate fell to its lowest level since 2006.

The race in Georgia, the Times explained, was decided primarily by demographic changes in the suburban ring surrounding Atlanta, where Biden outperformed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton among wealthy and well-educated suburbanites.

... "My heart is full," Abrams wrote as Biden took the lead the week of election day.

[Nov 18, 2020] In Nevada, A Corrupt Cash-For-Votes Scheme Is Hiding In Plain Sight

Nov 18, 2020 | thefederalist.com

The mass mailing of unsolicited ballots is of course a recipe for fraud, even more so in a state where the voter rolls contain tens of thousands of people who haven't voted or updated their records in more than a decade. This is how you get dead people voting, as we reported here at The Federalist and as Tucker Carlson noted last week .

But there's another, less sensational but perhaps more consequential election scandal in Nevada that hasn't yet made headlines, even though it's been hiding in plain sight for weeks now. Under the guise of supposedly nonprofit, nonpartisan get-out-the-vote campaigns, Native American voter advocacy groups in Nevada handed out gift cards, electronics, clothing, and other items to voters in tribal areas, in many cases documenting the exchange of ballots for "prizes" on their own Facebook pages, sometimes even while wearing official Joe Biden campaign gear.

Simply put, this is illegal. Offering voters anything of value in exchange for their vote is a violation of federal election law , and in some cases punishable by up to two years in prison and as much as $10,000 in fines . That includes raffles, free food, free T-shirts, and so on.

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There are about 60,000 eligible Native American voters in Nevada who make up about 3 percent of the state's total voting population. That's almost twice the current margin of Biden's current lead over President Trump in Nevada. So the Native American vote really does matter, it could even be decisive. It therefore matters how many Native American votes were influenced by an illegal cash-for-votes scheme, especially if funding for it came from American taxpayers via the NCAI.

It also matters because this didn't just happen in Nevada. Organizers there might have been more obvious about what they were doing, but there's evidence that similar efforts, including gift card and electronics giveaways, were undertaken in Native communities in South Dakota , Arizona , Wisconsin , Washington , Michigan , Idaho , Minnesota , and Texas .

All of this coordinated illegal activity, clearly designed to churn out votes for Biden and Democrats in tribal areas all across the country, is completely out in the open. You don't need special access or some secret source to find out about it. You just have be curious, look around, and report it.

Unfortunately, mainstream media outlets are not curious and refuse to report on any of this stuff. What's described above is an egregious and totally transparent vote-buying scheme in Nevada that was likely undertaken on a similar scale across nearly a dozen other states, but you won't read about it in The New York Times, or hear about it on CNN.

That's not because the story is unimportant, but because, for the media establishment, it's inconvenient. No wonder these groups didn't try to hide what they were doing.

[Nov 18, 2020] Several Georgia Recount Monitors Describe 'Odd Batches of Ballots' That Stood Out Pristine Sheets with Perfectly Marked Bubbles 100% For Joe Biden

Nov 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Teamtc321 , 1 hour ago

Several Georgia Recount Monitors Describe 'Odd Batches of Ballots' That Stood Out – Pristine Sheets with Perfectly Marked Bubbles – 100% For Joe Biden

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger recently ordered a statewide audit and hand recount amid overwhelming evidence of voter fraud.

The recount however appears to be rigged because elections officials are not checking signatures and now it is being revealed that the state is instructing officials to report original vote totals.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/several-georgia-recount-monitors-describe-odd-batches-ballots-stood-pristine-sheets-perfectly-marked-bubbles-100-joe-biden/

SirBarksAlot , 1 hour ago

Hold on there, Aquamaster. What about this televised shot of votes disappearing from the Trump Count and being added to the Biden count in Pennsylvania?

Pennsylvania Dominion transfers 20,000 votes from Trump to Biden on live TV.

https://streamable.com/b2ndze

Kentucky Dominion transfers Votes from Republican to Democrat for Governor:

https://welovetrump.com/2020/11/08/watch-election-fraud-caught-live-on-the-air-on-cnn-on-election-night-hammer-scorecard/?utm_source=website_link_trending1

[Nov 18, 2020] Georgia Recount Monitor Catches 9,626-Vote Error During Hand Recount -

Nov 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Georgia Recount Monitor Catches 9,626-Vote Error During Hand Recount by Tyler Durden Wed, 11/18/2020 - 14:35 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via the Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

A recount monitor in Georgia discovered a 9,626- vote error in the hand recount in DeKalb County, according to the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party.

"One of our monitors discovered a 9,626-vote error in the DeKalb County hand count . One batch was labeled 10,707 for Biden and 13 for Trump -- an improbable margin even by DeKalb standards. The actual count for the batch was 1,081 for Biden and 13 for Trump ," David Shafer wrote on Twitter on Nov. 18.

" Had this counting error not been discovered, Biden would have gained enough votes from this one batch alone to cancel out Trump's gains from Fayette, Floyd, and Walton ," Shafer added, referring to the three Peach State counties which discovered memory cards with uncounted votes on Monday and Tuesday.

Shafer said that two official counters signed off on the miscounted batch. GOP attorneys turned over an affidavit ( pdf ) on the incident to the Georgia secretary of state and requested an investigation.

" We were limited to one monitor for every 10 counting tables and we were kept some distance from the tables. There is no telling what we missed under these unreasonable restrictions," Shafer said.

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Fayette, Floyd, and Walton counties discovered uncounted votes on Monday and Tuesday with each batch favoring President Donald Trump. The discovered votes cut former Vice President Joe Biden's lead in the state by more than 1,400 votes.

Georgia's deadline to complete the recount is at 11:59 p.m. on Wednesday. The state is scheduled to vote on whether to certify the results of the 2020 election on Friday.

The recount in progress was initiated by Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger based on a new law that calls for an audit of one race after each election. The Trump campaign has challenged the recount process, asserting that it is meaningless unless it includes an audit of the voters' signatures .

The office of the secretary of state did not respond to a request for comment.

Georgia officials are probing the handling of the presidential election in the state's largest county. Officials are seeing "managerial sloppiness" and "chain of custody" issues in Fulton County, which has a population of about a million and includes Atlanta, Gabriel Sterling with the secretary of state's office told reporters on Tuesday.

Raffensperger said Tuesday that an audit of voting machines was completed with no signs of foul play. Voting systems testing company Pro V&V conducted the audit and "found no evidence of the machines being tampered."

The Trump campaign has alleged that voting machines and software by Dominion Voting Systems switched votes from Trump to Biden . Dominion denied the allegations.

Zachary Stieber contributed to this report.

Follow Ivan on Twitter: @ivanpentchoukov

[Nov 18, 2020] In 2006 George Soros Funded a Project to Elect Progressive Liberals to Secretary of State Offices -- Now You Know Why

Nov 18, 2020 | redstate.com

The "Secretary of State Project " was an American non-profit, progressive 527 political action committee focused on electing reform-minded progressive Secretaries of State in battleground states, who typically oversee the election process. The Project was funded by George Soros and members of the Democracy Alliance.

In 2008, Democrat House Organ Politico ran a story about the Obama campaign, calling the Secretaries of State the "Democrat firewall."

In anticipation of a photo-finish presidential election, Democrats have built an administrative firewall designed to protect their electoral interests in five of the most important battleground states .

The bulwark consists of control of secretary of state offices in five key states -- Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico and Ohio -- where the difference between victory and defeat in the 2004 presidential election was no more than 120,000 votes in any one of them.

With a Democrat now in charge of the offices, which oversee and administer their state's elections , the party is better positioned than in the previous elections to advance traditional Democratic interests -- such as increasing voter registration and boosting turnout -- rather than Republican priorities such as stamping out voter fraud.

Perhaps more important, in those five states Democrats are now in a more advantageous position when it comes to the interpretation and administration of election law -- a development that could benefit Barack Obama if any of those states are closely contested on Election Day.

The effort began in 2006 when a group of liberal California activists created an independent 527 group designed to elect secretaries of state.

The Secretary of State Project ran independent ads of its own and ensured that donors -- many of whom were affiliated with Democracy Alliance , a network of wealthy fundraisers that channels money to liberal causes across the country -- knew which candidates deserved donations.

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Members of the Democracy Alliance are required to contribute at least $200,000 a year to groups the Democracy Alliance vets and recommends. As of 2014, the Alliance had helped distribute approximately $500 million to liberal organizations since its founding in 2005. Members of the Democracy Alliance include billionaires George Soros and Tom Steyer. In 2017 and 2018 alone, Democracy Alliance Members spent $600 million on various liberal causes.

The President of Democracy Alliance is Gene LeMarche , a long-time Soros friend.

Before joining Atlantic in 2007, he served as Vice President and Director of U.S. Programs for the Open Society Foundations (OSF), launching the organization's pivotal work on challenges to social justice and democracy in the United States.

Here is a link to the Board of Democracy Alliance, the Chairman of which, John Stocks, is a Senior Advisor to the NEA -- the nation's largest union representing 3 million teachers.

The Secretary of State Project is said in some places to have folded, but the goal and efforts of groups like the Democracy Alliance went on unabated. Note that an early success of the Project was getting liberal Democrat Mark Ritchie elected as Minnesota Secretary of State in 2006. Ritchie then used his authority as Secretary of State to keep the vote count open in the razor-close contest between Norm Coleman and Al Franken in 2008. On November 14, 2008, two weeks after the election, with all the votes counted Coleman looked to be the winner by 215 votes. A mandatory hand-recount of all ballots then took place, and with a willing Ritchie overseeing the effort, canvassing boards in liberal Minnesota decided that nearly 1000 absentee ballots had been wrongly rejected as part of the initial vote count, and when those ballots were included, Al Franken, and not Norm Coleman, was certified as the winner by Ritchie.

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So let's pause to consider the two individuals who are the Secretaries of State in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

The Michigan Secretary of State is Jocelyn Benson, a 43-year-old Harvard educated attorney. Noteworthy is a professional life of liberal and progressive activism on voting rights issues.

Before going to law school, Benson earned a Master's at Magdalen College, Oxford, in the United Kingdom, conducting research into the sociological implications of white supremacy and neo-Nazism. Upon returning to the US, she lived and worked in Montgomery, Alabama, where she worked for the Southern Poverty Law Center as an investigative journalist, researching white supremacist and neo-Nazi organizations. She also worked as a summer associate for voting rights and election law for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

At Harvard Law School she was editor of the Harvard Civil Rights-Civil Liberties Law Review . From 2002–2004, she served as the Voting Rights Policy Coordinator of the Harvard Civil Rights Project, a non-profit organization that sought to link academic research to civil rights advocacy efforts.

When elected in 2018, she became the first Democrat to occupy the Secretary of State's Office in Michigan since 1994.

It was in Detroit where election observers were kept at a distance, and their ability to watch the vote counting was obscured by paper placed in windows.

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The Pennsylvania Secretary of State is Katherine Bookvar -- also elected in 2018.

The press wants Pres. Trump to put his trust in a "free and fair" election in Philadelphia in the hands of a woman who said the following about him only 6 weeks after he took office in 2017.

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I'm guessing there was a bottle of champagne in her office last night waiting for the "counting" in Philadelphia to finally get to the number needed.

From 2008 to 2011, Boockvar worked for Advancement Project, a non-profit organization focused on voting rights in Pennsylvania. During her tenure, she worked on voter rights education campaigns across the state. In March 2018, Boockvar was named Senior Adviser to the Governor on Election Modernization in the Pennsylvania Department of State by Governor Tom Wolf. She was appointed Acting Secretary of the Commonwealth on January 5, 2019, and confirmed by the Senate on November 19, 2019. In August 2019, she was named co-chair of the Elections Committee of the National Association of Secretaries of State.

Just like with Benson, Boockvar's professional life has not been directed at "free and fair" elections, but rather elections that draw in the absolute maximum number of votes whether valid or not.

This is the playbook now for how Democrat political machines will generate vote totals. The political leadership has no interest in respecting the legitimate right to vote, and they have no problem with validly cast votes being canceled out by invalidly cast votes.

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Standardization and transparency of election practices across all 50 states and the political subdivisions within each state make vote manipulation more difficult. You will not see any call for such legislation coming from any Democrat politician over the next four years in the lead-up to 2024.

[Nov 18, 2020] The question of foreign ownership

Nov 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

BugMan , 1 hour ago

Smartmatic electric voting systems was founded by three Venezuelan engineers and incorporated in Delaware . Smartmatic established its headquarters in Boca Raton, Florida.

The Miami Herald has reported that the Government of Venezuela may own up to 28% of Smartmatic, through an acquisition of another company named Bizta, and operated by two of the same owners of Smartmatic.

Other reports say Bizta has repurchased those shares from Smartmatic. Regardless, Smartmatic and Bizta partnered with Venezuela telephone giant CANTV to supply Venezuela with voting machines and software as far back as 2004.

Welcome AMERICA To the Venezuela Election Experience

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/welcome-america-venezuela-election-experience/

[Nov 18, 2020] McEnany -- There's 'Real Questions to Be Asked' About Election Results

Nov 18, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Wednesday on FNC's "Fox & Friends," White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany sounded off on the 2020 election and President Donald Trump's firing of Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Chris Krebs. Krebs' termination followed the CISA calling the 2020 election the most secure in the nation's history.

McEnany was not sure about Krebs' motivation for calling the election secure, but she highlighted some recounts finding uncounted ballots in Georgia and allegations of fraud in Michigan, and an attempt to cast thousands of votes for deceased people in California. She advised that "there are real questions that need to be asked" with all of the uncertainty in the election.

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"The president has pointed out that he made an inaccurate statement," McEnany said of Krebs. "He actually made a few if you look at his Twitter feed. But, look, if you say this was the most secure election in American history, as the president rightly pound pointed out, that may be true from the standpoint of foreign interference, but there were three tranches of ballots found uncounted in Georgia, amounting to nearly 6,000 votes, you have 234 pages of sworn affidavits in Michigan in one county alone alleging egregious misconduct by poll workers pushing back observers and even allegations of fraud in there, we have real questions in Pennsylvania. So, to say it's the most secure election in American history, it's just not an accurate statement, and it seems like a partisan attempt to just hit back at the president as he pursues important litigation."

She added, "I don't know if it was a partisan agenda, a personal grievance, what it was, but it definitely seems to be animated by something. And it seemed to go directly at this president and legitimate claims that he's pursuing in court."

Host Steve Doocy suggested the Department of Homeland Security could not find any wrongdoing.

"Yeah, well, look down in Georgia," McEnany replied. "We have one recount going on right now, just one. There are others that may or may not happen, but there's one going on, and you've found nearly 6,000 ballots not counted. Just yesterday, we heard about a California man who planned to cast 8,000 votes in the name of deceased people and others that LA is now looking at. And there's a good article in the LA Times about that. Maybe he should look around at just public news information that's out there, and he can find all the evidence he needs. But there are real questions that need to be asked because we need integrity in our election system."

Follow Trent Baker on Twitter @MagnifiTrent

[Nov 18, 2020] Michigan Democrat Doxxes Children Of Wayne County Election Official

Nov 18, 2020 | thefederalist.com

Michigan Democrat Doxxes Children Of Wayne County Election Official NOVEMBER 18, 2020 By Jordan Davidson

A Democratic Michigan State Representative-elect doxxed the chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers on a public Zoom meeting on Tuesday, revealing where her children attend school and claiming that she was enabling racism by refusing to certify the Wayne County Election.

"You, Ms. Monica Palmer from Grosse Pointe Woods, which has a history of racism, are deciding to enable and continue to perpetuate the racist history of this country and I want you to think about what that means for your kids," he said, name-dropping the name of their school and talking about the impact her decision would have on their black classmates.

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Abraham Aiyash, who was the only candidate in Michigan's fourth district, said his district was being personally attacked by Palmer's refusal to certify the election, and accused her of suppressing the black vote on purpose.

"You are standing here today, telling folks that black Detroit should not have their votes counted," he said. "You are certainly showing that you are a racist. You may say that you are not. You may claim that you are not. But let's be very clear, your words today, and your actions today made it clear that you are okay with silencing the votes of an 80 percent African-American city."

Aiyash's public doxxing of Palmer comes after the Wayne County Board of Canvassers voted 2-2 to deny certification of the Nov. 3 election votes after Palmer and the other Republican board member noted there were ballot discrepancies in Detroit that they refused to ignore. Palmer said she was open to certifying everywhere but Detroit.

"Palmer and others noted that some precincts in Wayne County were out of balance, meaning the number of ballots processed were different from the number who signed in," the Detroit Free Press reported.

Aiyash, however, did not accept Palmer's skepticism and instead continued to berate her for being a bigot and partisan.

"Know that we see what's happening now that there is nothing other than Jim Crowing that is going on right now and recognize the facts," he said.

"The Republican Party's major candidate has sued over 25 times across the country. Know the facts. You as a board of canvassers do not decide who are who is to be elected the voters to know the facts," he continued.

Shortly after Aiyash's verbal attack, both Republican board members changed their votes to certify the election. Jordan Davidson is a staff writer at The Federalist. She graduated from Baylor University where she majored in political science and minored in journalism.

[Nov 18, 2020] Uncounted votes found in Georgia; Michigan Official Threatens Republicans Who Refused To Certify Election

Nov 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

A second memory card with uncounted votes was found during an audit in Fayette County, Georgia, containing 2,755 votes according to WSBTV' s Justin Gray.

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Watch:

(921) Michigan Official Threatens Republicans Who Refused To Certify Election - YouTube

This is the Democrat Election Official LOSING IT, because they refuse to sign off on Fraudulent Votes...

[Nov 18, 2020] Watch election fraud LIVE on TV! Start the first video at 02:50 ...Second one is the very same thing.

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Zico the Musketeer , Nov 17 2020 19:18 utc | 11

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Ok this time I am posting the link of Sidney Powell's interview. I would really really like to see b write on that.

https://lbry.tv/@ebresztoemberek:4/Sidney-Powell-we-have-so-much-evidence:8

[Nov 18, 2020] Trump fires agency head who vouched for 2020 vote security

Nov 18, 2020 | www.msn.com

Trump fired Christopher Krebs in a tweet, saying his recent statement defending the security of the election was "highly inaccurate."

...A former Microsoft executive, Krebs ran the agency, known as CISA, from its creation in the wake of Russian interference with the 2016 election through the November election.

... CISA works with the state and local officials who run U.S. elections as well as private companies that supply voting equipment to address cybersecurity and other threats while monitoring balloting and tabulation from a control room at its headquarters near Washington. It also works with industry and utilities to protect the nation's industrial base and power grid from threats.

[Nov 18, 2020] I love it when they label things that are obvious to anyone with a brain, as conspiracy theories

Nov 18, 2020 | www.rt.com

MarleyChusonda 8 hours ago 17 Nov, 2020 01:11 PM

I love it when they label things that are obvious to anyone with a brain, as conspiracy theories.

The chances of biden (a man who can hardly form a coherent sentence without a teleprompter) even seeing out half his term, are unlikely.

Cornwhole 8 hours ago 17 Nov, 2020 01:10 PM
Optimist: the glass is half full.. Pessimist: the glass is half empty.. Feminist: the glass is full of sexual harassment

[Nov 18, 2020] Another collection of links

Nov 18, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

West [email protected] 29 minutes ago

Media continues to LIE that there is no evidence of VOTER FRAUD.

There is a MOUNTAIN of EVIDENCE of VOTER FRAUD.

Third Georgia County Finds Memory Card With Uncounted Votes
https://www.theepochtimes.c...

Pair Charged With Voter Fraud Allegedly Submitted Thousands of Fraudulent Applications on Behalf of Homeless People
https://www.nbclosangeles.c...

How a Philly mob boss stole the election -- and why he may flip on Joe Biden
https://buffalochronicle.co...

Project Veritas: Georgia Recount Auditors Call Multiple Ballots For Joe Biden That Were Actually Marked For President Trump (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Four Democrats, including Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobachar, were concerned in Dec 2019 and PBS were concerned in Oct 2020 about Dominion Votings Systems. Now you don't hear anything from these Democrats. Sydney Powell says she has a witness who can explain how the Dominion machines were built to cheat on elections. Chairman of Dominion Systems is on Biden's transition team.
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Mich Voter Fraud Witness Melissa Carone tells the Inside Story of Dominion Machines in Detroit
https://youtu.be/oF12gZ_mkHQ

Giuliani: 650K Illegal Ballots | New Voter Fraud Docs | 2020 Election Update (Day 10)
https://youtu.be/YAKqaWIR8IE

Caught Blue Handed
https://youtu.be/d3qshIdW-tA

Mich Voter Fraud Witness Jose Aliaga saw the 4am Biden Ballot Drop!
https://youtu.be/Pmv1DIDQhkI
200 Democrat watchers versus 60 Republican watchers. Democrat watchers didn't have to wear credentials. Law allows cell phones, but the election wouldn't let them pull out cell phones. Why? They didn't want fraud to be photographed?

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, shows that 69,000 were flipped from Trump to Biden in Michigan
https://twitter.com/kylenab...
https://youtu.be/Ztu5Y5obWPk

New York Times said that election officials see no fraud. But, FEC Chairman Trey Trainor: "I Do Believe There Is Fraud in These Places -- If The Law Is Not Followed It Makes This an Illegitimate Election"
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Poll Watchers in Wayne County File Lawsuit Alleging Detroit Officials Knowingly Committed Mass Voter Fraud
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Detroit City Elections Employee: Workers Coached Voters for Joe Biden, Changed Dates on Ballots
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

A pile of ballots are found in trash at closed polling station. All of them had votes for Trump, except for one.
https://rumble.com/vb0erd-w...

Video of vote worker explaining how he separates ballots and when he comes across one for Trump, he tears it up.
https://youtu.be/eH3cSFki20...

WATCH: RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel Says She Has 500 Sworn Affidavits on 11,000 Incidents of Voter Fraud
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

"This Felt Like a Drug Deal!" – Asian-American Ballot Observer in Detroit Describes Mysterious Van Dropping Off 61 Boxes of Ballots at 4 AM (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundi...
This poll observer worked from 10:00pm to 5:00am and saw 6,000 absentee ballots counted. They stopped counting before she left. After she left, they counted 100,000 ballots at 6:00am, eliminating Trump's lead.

Spoiled Bucks County Ballots Found in Trash; Top County Election Official: 'The Judge of Elections Didn't Do It Correctly;' Pennsylvania Law: Hold Spoiled Ballots for 22 Months
https://www.projectveritas....

Self-Described Dem Party Worker, Detroit Resident, Brags On Facebook: "I work for Wayne Co, MI and I threw out every Trump ballot I saw. Tens of thousands of them and so did all of my co-workers"
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

They found out in one county that Dominion ballot counting systems flipped 6,000 votes for Trump to Biden. Nancy Pelosi's Chief of Staff Is An Executive and Feinstein's Husband a Major Shareholder at Dominion Ballot Counting Systems
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Investigators Dispatched After Fulton County Discovers 'Issue' with Ballot Reporting
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

Affidavits: Detroit Ballot Tabulators Entered Names of Non-Voters During Count
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

Nevada Whistleblower Says He Witnessed Processing of Illegitimate Votes
https://www.breitbart.com/2...

Philadelphia GOP Alleges Dead People Voted in Pennsylvania
https://www.breitbart.com/p...
At least 840 dead people voted.

Report: Wisconsin Election Clerks May Have Illegally Altered Thousands of Ballots
https://www.breitbart.com/2...

Philadelphia GOP Poll Watcher: Election 'Not Fair at All'; 'We Were Kept Away from Everything'
https://www.breitbart.com/2...

Patty from 100% Fed Up Talks About Her Shocking Experience As a Poll Watcher at Detroit's TCF Center On Wednesday following the Election
https://www.thegatewaypundi...
Patty, a poll-challenger for 9 years said: Don't believe the media and social media. There is voter fraud and is always organized by Democrats. She described egregious and rampant voter fraud, including workers entering 1900 as birthdate for voters, ballots with non-registered voters, locking GOP poll-challengers out, hiding voter rolls, hiding signatures, 3 out-of-state cars dropped off ballots in the middle of the night.

Software that 'Glitched' in MI, GA, Incorrectly Gave Biden 1000s of Votes, Used in 28 States
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

Corrupted Software Used in Michigan County that Stole 6,000 Votes from Trump -- Is Also Used in ALL SWING STATES -- PA, GA, NV, MI, WI, AZ, MN!
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Nevada GOP Sends Criminal Referral to Justice Department About 'Instances of Voter Fraud'
https://www.breitbart.com/2...
"Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from NV."

Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots
https://nypost.com/2020/08/...
"A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he's been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades."

GOP Poll Watcher Alleges Fraud at Detroit Ballot-Counting Center
https://www.breitbart.com/2...

WATCH: Ballot Count Watcher Describes At Least 130,000 Ballots ALL FOR BIDEN Arriving in Three Vehicles in Detroit in Dead of Night
https://www.thegatewaypundi...
"It's about major fraud on a major scale that was very well organized,"

Michigan USPS 'Insider' Delivers Testimony Of 'Shady' Postmark Scheme To Handstamp 'Nov. 3' On Late Ballots
https://www.projectveritas....

Another One! Erie, Pa. USPS Insider Exposes 'Nov. 3' Postmark Voter Fraud Scheme
https://www.projectveritas....
BREAKING: PA USPS Whistleblower Richard Hopkins Goes Public; Confirms Federal Investigation
https://youtu.be/J-D-2GOswwA

138,000 Michigan Biden Votes that Appeared Out of Nowhere in the Middle of the Night
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Watch workers put up cardboard to stop you from seeing what they are doing. Watch ballot observer explain ballots with no names, or people who are born in 1921 and registered in 1900 (before they were born).
https://youtu.be/YcqSTOnLo6...

Court ordered PA election officials to allow Republican observers. But officials still will not let them, as they continue to count and increase Biden's votes:
https://www.theepochtimes.c...

Search for Philadelphia voter fraud and you will find cases and convictions:

South Philly judge of elections admits he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates
https://www.inquirer.com/ne...
Philadelphia's Horrible Record of Democrat Voter Fraud Hits New Low
https://thespectator.info/2...
Indictment of Former Democrat Congressman Widens Voter Fraud Case in Philadelphia
https://www.dailysignal.com...
Massive Vote Fraud Found In Philadelphia -- National Scandal Expands
http://www.capoliticalrevie...
"in New Hampshire, 5,000 residents of Massachusetts voted in the General Election in 2016 in New Hampshire -- defeating a Republican incumbent"
"Indiana and Virginia are prosecuting massive vote frauds from the 2016 election."
"Now we find hundreds of illegal voters in Philadelphia -- trying to take the State away from Trump. Voter fraud is easy in most States. In California register your dog online and the dog gets an absentee ballot."
"The Pennsylvania Department of State has a review underway; but has already reported that, since 1972, 1,160 voters statewide have requested their registrations be canceled because they were not citizens. There can be little doubt this is just the tip of the iceberg."

No, voter fraud isn't a myth: 10 cases where it's all too real
https://www.washingtontimes...
"3. Some Pennsylvania citizens voting twice.
4. Illegal voters uncovered in Philadelphia; half had previously voted.
10. Voter registration cards sent to illegals in Pennsylvania."

North Carolina Announced 100% of Precincts Were Reported On Election Night – But Never Called Trump Win – Now Claim Only 94% of Ballots Counted
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

'I Can't Believe What I'm Seeing – This is a Coup' – Registered Democrat and Poll Watcher Details Corruption at Philly Vote Counting Center (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Seven Kinds of Election Interference, from Fraud to Censorship
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

Democrats Challenge Court Order Allowing GOP Observers
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

Report: Democrat PA Officials 'Privately' Feeding Biden Campaign His Potential Margin of Victory
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

RIGGED ELECTION: TX 'Ballot Chaser' Illegally Pressures Voters To Change Votes; "I could go to jail"
https://youtu.be/WAhTVMikqgU

John James Campaign Claims Irregularities in Michigan Senate Race
https://www.breitbart.com/p...

Fmr NV AG Laxalt: 'No Question' Trump Would Have Won Nevada 'Convincingly' Without Mail-in Voting
https://www.breitbart.com/c...
" we are still not allowed to watch the signature-matching. We are not allowed to challenge any of those signatures. So, they switch us to this new system, and they give us no right to be sure that only legal voters count. As America knows, those that stayed up like me all night -- they dumped these at 3 a.m. They counted through the middle of the night."
"400,000 votes were cast last night, and there was no observation, no transparency. And you know, we're supposed to just trust but not be able to verify."
"We also know there are likely to be dead voters. There are likely to be people that have moved out of Las Vegas but found their ballots were still cast. So we're looking into all of this, but it's just astounding when you watch the news commentary last night about this. They keep acting these systems are foolproof, and there's no way that any improper voter can get through. And it is just simply not true.""

USPS Worker Charged After Being Arrested at Canadian Border With Stolen Ballots
https://www.theepochtimes.c...

Rudy Giuliani: With mail-in ballots, both parties are supposed to be able to observe the ballots. Republicans were not allowed:
https://youtu.be/tIs4y4ryDJ0

WATCH: Suitcases and Coolers Rolled Into Detroit Voting Center at 4 AM, Brought Into Secure Counting Area
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

MICHIGAN POLL WATCHER: Ballots Were Turned In With No Names On Them
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Michigan County Clerk Discovers Total Votes Counted by "Election Software" DID NOT MATCH Printed Tabulator Tapes!
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Detroit Precinct Chair Says Voting Irregularities, Poor Training
https://www.thegatewaypundi...
"We were instructed not to accept ballots that were not specifically marked as received, but I saw it happen," Kingen said. "I called the hotline they provided to us for problems, and the people there didn't know what to do. These people were claiming they never received their live ballots, but they could have just been lying and turned them in later, it's not possible for us to check those things at the polling places."

Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar Denied Entry Into Maricopa County Elections Center as Ballots Are Counted
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

What is Going On? Minnesota and Wisconsin BOTH had 89%-90% Turnout -- Something That Is Highly Unlikely
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

"Democrat Charged In Voter Fraud Scandal Proving Trump Right, Mail In Voting Is A Disaster"
https://youtu.be/uUwikbIaEMg

"Democrats Are Destroying Our Election On PURPOSE, Leftists Sending Out BUNK Mail In Voter Forms"
https://youtu.be/JaRdon4bfpU

"More Voter Fraud EXPOSED, Mailman Pleads Guilty, Cat Gets Voter Forms, 2020 Chaos Has ALREADY Begun"
https://youtu.be/n_yxlukbwqk

"Democratic City SLAMMED By Mail in Voter Fraud Charges, Experts Scared This Proves Trump RIGHT"
https://youtu.be/LXZLhxEVJic

"Ilhan Omar Connected Cash-For-Ballots Voter Fraud Scheme Corrupts Elections: 'These Here Are All Absentee Ballots...Look...My Car Is Full..." 'Money Is The King Of Everything'"
https://www.projectveritas....

"Clinton could have received 800,000 votes from noncitizens"
http://m.washingtontimes.co...

"Democratic Operative Explains Voter Fraud: We've Been Busing People In For Fifty Years"
https://www.realclearpoliti...

"HIDDEN CAMERA: NYC Democratic Election Commissioner "I Think There Is A lot of Voter Fraud""
https://www.projectveritas....
"there's thousands of absentee ballots [fraud]"
De Blasio gave out ID cards but didn't vet the people to see who they are.

Texas 'Ballot Chaser' Pressures Voter to Change Vote from Cornyn to Hegar: 'That's My Job' 'I Can Honestly Say I'm Bringing at Least 7,000 Votes to The Polls' Said Garza Gave Her $2,500 Gift Budget
https://www.projectveritas....

'Ballot Chaser' Raquel Rodriguez Boasts Judges, Legislators 'In My Pocket' 'I'm Getting the Biden Vote Out, But I Mean, I'm Not Going To Do It For Free'
https://www.projectveritas....

"Official CAUGHT Outlining Democrat VOTER FRAUD Playbook"
https://youtu.be/Mug0nLX4_kk

Veritas Voter Fraud Compilation - #VoterFraudIsReal
https://youtu.be/rCldQRaPXwo

"Voter Fraud Is Real. Here's The Proof"
http://thefederalist.com/20...

Study Claims Up to 2.8 million Non-Citizens Voted in 2008
http://dailycaller.com/2017...

"Hidden Camera: Hillary Campaign Using Photos of Trump to Illegally Register Voters"
https://youtu.be/O1TExzAXnFo

https://twitter.com/JamesOK...

3 Million Illegal Immigrants Voted, Claims Greg Phillips of VoteStand
http://www.inquisitr.com/37...

"O'Keefe Undercover Video Shows Hillary Campaign Skirting Election Laws"
https://youtu.be/LgHEClMxnpg

"Hidden Camera: Hillary Campaign Using Photos of Trump to Illegally Register Voters"
https://youtu.be/O1TExzAXnFo

[Nov 18, 2020] National Election Fraud- Evidence of National Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election - Zero Hedge -

Nov 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

National Election Fraud: Evidence of National Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election


by ammodotcom Mon, 11/16/2020 - 20:44 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Election fraud in the 2020 presidential race on a national scale? We've compiled a litany of facts and data here so that you can decide for yourself.

Below we explore the details and the data of what happened across the nation on Election Day, with flagrant and often sloppy irregularities occurring from coast to coast. Elsewhere we explore similar efforts in the key swing states of Pennsylvania , Wisconsin , Michigan , and Georgia

The General Landscape of American Election Fraud

The media is trying to weave a narrative with ever-shifting goalposts. They began by saying that not only did voter fraud not happen, but that it's impossible. Now, they have shifted their story to saying that there is always minor fraud, but that it never really matters much.

The Heritage Foundation has identified 1,200 elections where voter fraud made the difference in recent decades long after the era of Jim Crow when election theft was de rigueur. Of these, fully 15 were thrown out specifically because of cheating by mail-in ballot .

Mail-in ballots are largely banned in Europe, where voter ID requirements are likewise the norm . Florida has been recognized specifically as an offender.

Another narrative in the controlled media is that illegal aliens and other non-citizens don't vote. This is patently untrue. In fact, they vote at alarmingly high rates. A 2019 study found that approximately 2.2 percent of respondents admitted to voting illegally, which implies a little under a million ballots cast by non-citizens every year .

The counterargument is that respondents are either lying or misunderstood the question, but this is simply not true -- those who conducted the study verified their votes .

So we can see that electoral fraud is not only impossible, it is common. It is not negligible, it has determined elections in living memory. With this as our backdrop, we will now investigate voter irregularities throughout the nation during the 2020 Presidential election.

What Constitutes Evidence of Electoral Fraud?

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Before going further, it is worth discussing what constitutes evidence for electoral fraud. Well, the Carter Center has a set of standards that they use to determine whether or not there has been electoral fraud somewhere.

These are the standards used by globalists to determine whether or not elections they disapprove of have been conducted fraudulently. Several of them are present in the contested states:

Additionally, the Carter Center states that it is the right of dissidents to challenge and question the results of an election that they believe to be fraudulent. Harassing dissidents is considered evidence of chicanery in and of itself.

"Effective redress" is the term they use and it is considered by the Carter Center to be vital for establishing an election as legitimate. The resistance of the Democratic Party to recounts and audits should be a red flag in and of itself.

There are also mathematical anomalies that are worth looking into because, regardless of turnout and outcome, elections will follow certain patterns. One of these is that, because of mail sorting, mail-in ballots will consistently show the same ratio of support for each candidate. We did not see that, however -- there is a significant spike in support for Biden and fall off in support for President Trump as Election Night dragged on.

Indeed, in Wisconsin, this anomaly became massive around 4 a.m., the same time that the massive ballot drops without supervision began. The same phenomenon occurred in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Georgia, all four of these states with copious amounts of electoral chicanery and irregularity. Virginia was another state with similar mathematical irregularities.

Benford's Law is another area where we see mathematical irregularities. Put simply: When we have large datasets of numbers, there is a pattern we can find with regard to the final and penultimate digit of each number in this data set.

Benford's Law analysis is one of the first things run by forensic accountants looking for financial malfeasance or tax cheating.

Many of the electoral tallies in disputed states violate Benford's Law -- but only for Joe Biden , whose distribution more closely resembles the curve when people type "random" numbers in. President Trump, Jo Jorgensen, Howie Hawkins, and Kanye West's numbers do not violate this law, but former Vice President Biden's do in disputed areas.

The Wikipedia article about Benford's Law was altered and locked after several enterprising Twitter users began investigating this strand of the 2020 election theft.

The Glitch From Coast to Coast

One recurring theme throughout the 2020 election is the glitch. There have been a number of glitches, many detailed in our series on irregularities in different states. This, in and of itself might not be cause for concern -- however, in every case, these so-called "software glitches" favor former Vice President Biden at the expense of President Donald Trump.

Again, we have detailed these in our state series article, but we will mention some here just to give you a general idea of what has been going on with these "glitches."

One in Michigan sent 6,000 votes to Biden that were meant for Donald Trump. Another in Wisconsin, robbed Donald Trump of 19,500 votes . Another similar glitch in Georgia saw an unspecified number of votes go to Biden that were, once again, meant for the President.

There appears to be a pattern here. Were these all bona fide mistakes, we would likely find votes that were meant to go for Joe Biden going to Donald Trump before the situation was corrected. But we are unaware of any such error in favor of the President.

The common denominator? The voting software used to calculate the vote made by a company with deep connections to the DNC.

The Turnout That Wasn't

The DNC's victory in the 2020 Presidential election relies heavily upon a massively increased turnout, again centered around a handful of large cities controlled by the Democratic Party. One example of this is 90 percent turnout in the entire State of Wisconsin , which would not only be the highest level of turnout in American history, but also comes close to the 92 percent average in Australia where voting is mandatory. In the city of Milwaukee alone, the turnout was 84 percent.

Compare this turnout to Cleveland, a culturally comparable city not in a swing state, which had a comparatively scant 51 percent turnout. This is an important city to draw a contrast with because, while it is a Democratic stronghold, as are most large cities, and it has a similar minority population, it was not in a state that was considered in play this election. Democrats attempted to steal the election by fabricating astronomical turnout in urban areas they control in swing states.

The turnout gambit becomes even more laughable when one considers that Biden is one of the least invigorating Democratic candidates since John Kerry or Mike Dukakis. Yet somehow this candidate was able to increase his vote above what Barack Obama enjoyed, with some districts in Milwaukee putting up more votes than there are registered voters in the area .

A broad study conducted by Judicial Watch found that 353 counties across 29 states had turnout exceeding 100 percent of registered voters. Eight of these had turnout exceeding 100 percent across the entire state: Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont.

Perhaps more damning, the study was limited to 37 states publishing their voter registration data. This means that, of the 37 states that Judicial Watch had access to, 78 percent of them had turnout exceeding 100 percent.

Vetting of Mail-In Ballots

The American public was warned for months in advance that mail-in balloting, illegal throughout most of Europe, is inherently insecure and lends itself to the kind of mass voter fraud that we are seeing in action right now.

But the mail-in ballots that we are seeing in this election are not just nonspecifically "suspect." They are rife with irregularities and a lack of accountability that should cause them to be closely investigated, audited and, where appropriate, thrown out entirely.

Mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania are particularly questionable. This is a state where Biden enjoyed a 60.5 percent lead in mail-in voting . More damning is the fact that many of these ballots seem to have arrived before they were even sent, arrived the same day or arrived within one day of being sent. This is an abnormal amount of processing time, especially when we consider the surge in mail due to the election.

James O'Keefe found two whistleblowers at USPS, one of whom was willing to come forward, who told of backdating ballots. This whistleblower was intimidated by the feds and it was falsely reported that he recanted his report .

Vetting of mail-in ballots is particularly important because they are widely open to electoral fraud, as we have discussed above. So it is troubling that we have multiple reports, including in the form of sworn affidavits presented before the court, of poll watchers being thrown out, mocked, intimidated and even physically assaulted during the course of counting mail-in ballots.

Of special note is the strong resistance to poll workers in swing states to allow anyone to watch them. In Pennsylvania, poll workers were caught on video expelling poll watchers despite knowledge of a court order preventing them from doing so. Reports of expelled poll watchers were part of the lawsuit filed in Michigan and there were similar reports out of Georgia . This raises the obvious question -- why don't they want anyone watching them?

Biden Outperformed Obama

Biden's turnout when compared with Barack Obama is another area warranting special investigation. It is worth noting that Biden was generally viewed as a less-than-ideal candidate in no small part because he generated very little enthusiasm among Democratic Party voters. In contrast, Obama was a rock star candidate who had just defeated the party's presumptive nominee in a hard-fought primary. Biden, on the other hand, was largely foisted on the party through back room deals in an attempt to prevent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders from obtaining the nomination for President.

Biden also barely campaigned throughout the primary season. Most of the campaign was characterized by the candidate calling "lids," a term meaning that he was home for the day and would be doing no more press, with the occasional teleconference. Not only did he start with an unethusiastic base who would have preferred nearly anyone else, he did little to motivate his base throughout the course of the election.

Yet somehow, he outperformed Hillary Clinton who won a hard-fought primary against Senator Sanders and kept pace with numbers from Barack Obama's 2008 and 2012 campaigns, being able to boast that he has received more votes than any other candidate for President in American history . In some cases -- tellingly in areas crucial for winning the election -- Biden was able to outperform Barack Obama .

For example, in Chester, Cumberland, and Montgomery Counties in Pennsylvania, he outperformed Obama by approximately 25 percent . In Montgomery County, he was able to double Barack Obama's margin of victory. He increased the raw vote total there by fully 80,000 votes. The population of this county only increased by 22,000 in the years between Obama's victory and Biden's alleged one.

Not only should we be skeptical of the numbers, we should be skeptical of them because of where they came in from. Such dubious numbers were not coming in from places that we could assume were Democratic Party strongholds like New York, Chicago and Miami where Biden actually saw a decrease in voters relative to Hillary Clinton. So why is he putting up these high totals only in a handful of cities (Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia) controlled by Democrats in swing states?

Biden-Only Ballots

Another area of suspicion are the Biden-only ballots. Tens or hundreds of thousands of voters marked their ballots only for Joe Biden, with presumably no interest in down ballot races . While it's not unusual for people to take an outsized interest in the Presidential election, it is unusual for 450,000 people to have no interest in down ballot races and for this to be concentrated in a handful of swing states.

The strange dichotomy here is that people were far more likely to do this in alleged swing states with competitive Senate races like Georgia , while deep red states like Wyoming did not see a massive number of Biden-only ballots. In Georgia, there was only a difference of 818 votes between Trump and down ticket Senate races.

Biden, on the other hand, received over 95,000 more votes than either Senate candidate on the ballot in Georgia. In Wyoming there were a mere 725 more votes for Biden than the Democratic Senate candidate in the state.

Raheem Kassam reports on five states with anomalous Biden-only voting, all of which keep coming up with various irregularities: Pennsylvania (98,000), Georgia (80-90,000), Arizona (42,000), Michigan (69-115,000) and Wisconsin (62,836).

All told, Republicans won 28 out of 29 competitive House races as of November 8 and flipped three state legislatures, but were somehow unable to deliver the White House to the President. So we are expected to believe that not only did Joe Biden receive more votes than Barack Obama and that these came largely on the back of massive inner-city turnout, but that this massive turnout for Joe Biden was unable to flip a single state legislature .

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Biden-only ballots are a recurring theme in all of the states in question. While they are by no means a smoking gun, they do point toward significant irregularities that need to be investigated before Joe Biden can begin claiming victory.

Who Counts the Votes? Irregularities In Counting Systems

There is a quote often attributed to Joseph Stalin, but is probably apocryphal : It doesn't who votes, it matters who counts the votes. It doesn't really matter who, if anyone, actually said this. The point is that it doesn't matter what votes actually say if the votes are ignored or altered by the person doing the counting.

In the 21st Century most of our vote counting is done by machines which use proprietary software. Most states used systems supplied by Dominion Voting Systems. What's more, the irregularities in vote counting, in particular the "glitches" that universally favor Joe Biden, come from these voting systems.

First, we should note that there were 92 donations made by Dominion employees over the last year according to the FEC . Of these, 80 went to Democratic super PAC ActBlue, seven went to Senator Bernie Sanders, four to the Trump campaign and one went to the DNC. What's more, Dominion Voting Systems has a partnership with the Clinton Global Initiative as well as former employees of the Clinton Growth Initiative on staff, according to One America News Network .

Rudy Giuliani claims that the legal campaign to protect the election has whistleblowers from Dominion ready to go on record.

A bit in the weeds, but worth mentioning, is the allegation that intelligence software was used to change vote counts. There is a video on this subject here . As we say, this is a bit in the weeds, but worth mentioning for those who wish to go down that rabbit hole.

NOQ Report has been kind enough to do a deep dive on the topic of Dominion's role in the 2020 Presidential election. They found significant vote switching in Georgia (17,407, where Biden leads with 14,148 votes) and Pennsylvania (with over one million votes switched in favor of Joe Biden). The article is mostly just a list of switched votes and lost votes, but it bears reading because it sheds light on just how massive a role vote switching played in the 2020 election, further cementing the theory that Dominion played a role in the theft.

Fight Back to Save America

Don't let any of this get you down, because the fight is far from over. Both President Trump and Congressional Republicans are working hard, both in the public sphere and in the courts to make sure that the 2020 election is fair and transparent.

So what can you do to join in the fight?

First, you should call your elected representatives. That means calling your state rep, your state senator, your House Rep and your U.S. Senator. You should do this be they friend or foe -- either way, they need to know that you insist on having all legal votes counted. Insist on concrete steps to ensure the integrity of the vote. Do not settle for stock answers about the importance of democracy. A Twitter account has made what is actually a very good script for you to follow when you call in. Be firm, but polite.

If you want to take to the streets, there are opportunities. Stop The Steal is the movement dedicated to putting bodies in the streets of our nation's state capitals to let our elected officials know that we are not going to stand for seeing our elections stolen in a manner befitting Zimbabwe. There are almost daily rallies at the state capitol building and the TFC Center in Detroit. What's more, a nationwide rally in DC called the Million MAGA March is scheduled for November 14. The Democratic government of Washington, DC has responded with new COVID restrictions designed to cripple the march.

What can you do? Quite a lot. Nothing less than the future of the country is at stake. If they can steal this election, don't expect another one to be free and fair. But do expect a lot of gun grabs and speech laws.

National Election Fraud: Evidence of National Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election by Ammo.com 's lead writer, Sam Jacobs , originally appeared in Thought Grenades , the blog at LibertasBella.com globalintelhub , 13 hours ago

ammodotcom you are doing a great job covering this fraud as a ZH contributor. www.globalintelhub.com

Handful of Dust , 5 hours ago

Lots of filings will be available today 9Tuesday) only for every to read the detailed evidence. Bannon on his show and several others will review these filings.

Lin Wood's filings in Georgia federal court and Sydney Powell's filings in Pennsylvania federal court will also be available today or tomorrow.

Court orders will have to be issued since the Democrats counting the ballots are ignoring the State court order to allow observers watch the count and check the ballots. Remember, most of these judges at State court levels in these Demorat states are democrat partisans, NOT unbiased judges.

bahian , 5 hours ago

After being surprised in 2016 you can be sure the Dem. machines were leaving nothing to chance in 2020. Eric Coomer is Dominion's Director of Strategy and Security : "Oltmann explained that "Eric" was telling the Antifa members they needed to "keep up the pressure." When one of the caller's asked, "Who's Eric?" someone answered, "Eric, he's the Dominion guy." Oltmann said that as the conversation continued, someone asked, "What are we gonna do if F*cking Trump wins?" Oltmann paraphrased how Eric (the Dominion guy) responded, "Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" " https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/report-anti-trump-dominion-voting-systems-security-chief-participating-antifa-calls-posted-antifa-manifesto-letter-trump-online/

dbsbunker , 1 hour ago

Apparently missing from the GA recount is a a double-check of the counting numbers. What if, as was alleged, some Trump ballots were counted as going for Biden?

All ballots should be counted twice, by a different team. If the numbers don't come up exactly the same, someone lied.

koan , 2 hours ago

Rudy Giuliani claims that the legal campaign to protect the election has whistleblowers from Dominion ready to go on record.

Ready to go on record, but not on record...

CondZero , 4 hours ago

It would not be a stretch to suggest that when voting tabulation stopped in the Democratically controlled precincts, that voter registration rolls could be culled for people that didn't vote and these non-votes were manually or electronically cast for Biden in the wee hours, unsupervised, unregulated, nevermind switching Trump votes for Biden. If your a Dem you love this kind of nonsense because it favors your candidate. Unfortunately, this election is so mired in doubt, hardly any sane person can recognize it as fair and impartial.

Thought.Adjuster , 3 hours ago

If your a Dem you love this kind of nonsense because it favors your candidate.

The End justifies the Means.

LogicFusion , 1 hour ago

At least analysis and breakdown, true knowlege. Thanks.

In contrast, here is how our convicted felon and hindsight forecaster Martin Armstrong predicted a Trump victory. The prediction failed, but he still claims success and sells useless books and reports as described in ArmstrongEconomics - The Scam Business Model Exposé

In a YouTube interview with Greg Hunter he claims that

01:20
uh so it's the computer doesn't ask my opinion or anybody else's it just goes on the numbers from the economic data and it's never been wrong

He claims that the vote count fraud involves up to 38 million votes. Commenters of the video point this out here that his numbers are wrong by a whopping 1000%.:

In comments, Armstrong is NOT represented directly by any YouTube user. Only by his sock puppet fake accounts who claim to be super satisfied users while at the same time advertising his services.

We know that Martin Armstrong's videos are giant sock puppet shows after simply analyzing the messages - and we get to know the sock puppets!

So after the error is first pointed out by a real viewer

@Frank Scarfone 2020-11-16T02:40:16

Martin Armstrong is incorrect on 38 million votes stolen from President Trump. Actually, it is 3.8 million instead. Go to his website and look at the article which states 38 million. Inside the article, click on the blue highlighted "38 million votes" and you will be directed to the original article which states 3.8 million votes. Still, 3.8 million is a lot of votes.

One day later, Martin Armstrong via shill account still in denial / damage control:

@a _g 2020-11-17T05:30:14

up to 38 million votes? it?s so crazy it just might be

10 hours later:

@Greg Hunter 2020-11-17T15:14:25

Correction: Martin Armstrong mistakenly said as much as "38 million votes" were fraudulent of stolen. Armstrong meant to say as much as 3.8 million.

The video has 1,242 Comments as I write this. He needs a very high sock puppet activity to be effectively showing vibrant client interest and cult member activity. How does it work? With two different type of shill accounts. Individual as described and borrowed ones. I guess he uses borrowed accounts in bulk for 50 cents a message as covered in

Martin Armstrong The Hyper Shill

Here are some messages from Martin Armstrong's individual accounts:

@Mike V 2020-11-16T08:57:39

I certainly hope so...IF the Rule of Law prevails. We shall see. If not, we are in for a real mess.

@Mike V 2020-11-16T09:01:04

If you remove debt, there's no money. Money is debt. Deficits will never be paid back, precisely why Armstrong correctly illustrates that sovereign debt be converted into perpetual bonds that pay just 3%.

@Mike V 2020-11-16T09:04:59

Socrates is not a fantasy. It monitors more than 1,000 global markets on a daily basis. It's likely the only true Artificial Intelligence platform in existence. There's no bias in its coding.

@Mike V 2020-11-16T09:13:50

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/2020-the-cycle-of-war-electronic-edition-now-available/

@Mike V 2020-11-16T09:17

Absolutely critical interview. I've been following Martin Armstrong for years. Brilliantly insightful. Here's the link to a digital copy of what might be his greatest work: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/products/2020-the-cycle-of-war-electronic-edition-now-available/

@UncoverTruth 2020-11-15T13:27:47

Have followed him for over 10+ years. He used to be more cryptic. I believe he understands the seriousness of what we are up against right now and is so much more open and detailed now - which I appreciate!

@UncoverTruth 2020-11-15T13:44:42

He puts out a free daily blog at Armstrong economics.com . Very informative.

@UncoverTruth 2020-11-15T13:59:08

They sold out.

@UncoverTruth 2020-11-15T14:03:37

He puts out a free daily blog at Armstrong economics.com . Very informative

@UncoverTruth 2020-11-15T14:16:59

Completely agree!

And here comes his lie regarding his past criminal conviction:

@UncoverTruth 2020-11-15T14:21:58

He spent 11 years in prison because the government wanted the source code to Socrates and he wouldn't give it to them. They also framed him for this bogus charge (read the story on one of his blogs). They even tried to get someone to kill him when they held him in jail and he was in a coma for awhile and almost died. Like most people, if the MSM gives you the story, you believe it. Please research yourself.

I haven't had the time for now to print the messages of the borrowed accounts which are used to convey on-way messages that cannot be responded to. The number is much higher.

[Nov 18, 2020] Poll- 52% of Republicans Believe Trump 'Rightfully Won' the Election

Nov 18, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

A slight majority of Republicans believe that President Trump "rightfully won" the presidential election two weeks ago, a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released Wednesday found.

The survey, taken November 13-17 among 1,346 U.S. respondents, found 73 percent expressing the belief that Joe Biden (D) won the election, compared to five percent who chose Trump. However, 53 percent of Republicans, specifically, believe Trump "rightfully won," while less than a third, 29 percent, said the same for the former vice president:

According to Reuters, an even greater majority of Republicans expressed concern that the election was, in fact, "rigged":

Asked why, Republicans were much more concerned than others that state vote counters had tipped the result toward Biden: 68% of Republicans said they were concerned that the election was "rigged," while only 16% of Democrats and one-third of independents were similarly worried.

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Sooo, 48% of Republicans think the steal was legitimate?... hey gee [email protected] an hour ago

Any election using the Dominion electronic voter correction facility should be declared null and void QuidPro Joe Buddy McKenzie 13 minutes ago

We all know Reuters is at least 20 points off! SC [email protected] an hour ago

BB is in on the steal.. Im sure their sponsors or investors dictated them to ignore the steal.. just another 'conservative' betrayal. DreamKilla2.0 [email protected] 40 minutes ago

It's a Reuters poll -- definitely fake Incurablewound [email protected] 38 minutes ago

Social media censorship of anything that questions party line.
Protests are met with police oppression.
We are told when & where we can go & how many we can see.
Plans to prove health & vaccine status.
A reset no one voted for.
Is this enough for everyone to say NO? #NoGreatReset

4 ReplyShare › Avatar Olde_Brooklyn_Lantern [email protected] 42 minutes ago • edited

Using polls as proof of anything? After 2016 AND 2020!??? Absurd.
IndependentWhoShouldntBeBanned
Olde_Brooklyn_Lantern 30 minutes ago • edited

Olde, sadly it probably exceeds 52% bc we know some rightwing dishonesty to pollsters is still a big prob that needs fixing!! For how to correct these 52+ %, my idea is online training for a few things like mask use obs, and a sensitivity/civilty course, and also training could cover how elections are secure and legit. It wouldn't be totally mandatory, but anyone passing the quiz after it could receive rewards, maybe corporations would donate stuff?? And or maybe anyone whose social media accounts were suspended could have them restored provisionally???!? We need to unify the country somehow!!

[Nov 17, 2020] Jeff Carlson on Twitter- -This election has ripped the band-aid off the ridiculous claims from the Left that voting fraud is non-existent.- - Twitter

Nov 17, 2020 | mobile.twitter.com

This election has ripped the band-aid off the ridiculous claims from the Left that voting fraud is non-existent. Quote Tweet Heather Mullins - Real America's Voice (RAV-TV) @TalkMullins · 4h BREAKING! Floyd County, GA: Nearly 2600 votes discovered in hand count that weren't counted on election night. Most for Trump.

Election officials are working with Dominion Voting Systems to determine what happened.

@GaSecofState is sending an investigator tomorrow.


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It's being suppressed full-time by big tech, just like the hunter laptop stories. My skeptical self thinks this isn't going to mean a damn thing.

[Nov 17, 2020] Whistleblower Alleges Software Manipulated Votes to Change Venezuelan Election Results

Something fishy here. Usually voting machines are a CIA/NSA home playing field. Why Chavez wanted to play on other side field, wher he has huge disadvanrtage, in not very clear.
Another interesting question is why poor countries buy this expensive crap. Why they need voting machines at all?
Notable quotes:
"... "I was witness to the creation and operation of a sophisticated electronic voting system that permitted the leaders of the Venezuelan government to manipulate the tabulation of votes for national and local elections and select the winner of those elections in order to gain and maintain their power," the affidavit states. ..."
Nov 16, 2020 | www.theepochtimes.com
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WASHINGTON -- Trump campaign lawyer and former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell released an affidavit on Nov. 16, from an alleged whistleblower who claims to have witnessed how election software secretly manipulates votes without leaving a trace.

The whistleblower -- who says his or her background is with the Venezuelan military, including the national security guard detail of the Venezuelan president -- outlines an alleged conspiracy between Smartmatic software executives, former Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, and that country's election officials, to ensure Chavez won reelections and retained power for years. The whistleblower said he was present at multiple meetings.

The Epoch Times was not able to independently verify the claims.

"I was witness to the creation and operation of a sophisticated electronic voting system that permitted the leaders of the Venezuelan government to manipulate the tabulation of votes for national and local elections and select the winner of those elections in order to gain and maintain their power," the affidavit states.

"From that point on, Chavez never lost any election. In fact, he was able to ensure wins for himself, his party, Congress persons and mayors from townships."

The whistleblower claimed the "software and fundamental design of the electronic electoral system and software of Dominion and other election tabulating companies relies upon software that is a descendant of the Smartmatic Electoral Management System."

"In short, the Smartmatic software is in the DNA of every vote tabulating company's software and system, "the whistleblower said.

The affidavit alleges that Dominion is one of three major companies that tabulates votes in the United States. Powell said in a Nov. 15 interview, "We're getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states." She claimed that the U.S. election software switched "millions of votes" from Trump to Biden.

The whistleblower claims that Smartmatic created a system that anonymized the voters' choices inside the machine and then spat out the desired outcome by the end of the election day. No vote could be traced back to an individual voter.

In the April 2013 Venezuelan election, the affidavit states, the conspirators had to take the internet down for two hours to reset the machines, as Nicolás Maduro was losing by too many votes to Henrique Capriles Radonski.

The whistleblower alleged that Chavez eventually exported the software to Bolivia, Nicaragua, Argentina, Ecuador, and Chile.

A Dominion Voting Systems spokesperson said on Nov. 12 that the company "categorically denies any claims about any vote switching or alleged software issues with our voting systems."

"Our systems continue to reliably and accurately count ballots, and state and local election authorities have publicly confirmed the integrity of the process," the spokesperson said in a statement to the Denver Post .

This article and headline was revised at 10 p.m. on Nov. 16 to remove a section pending further verification.

Follow Charlotte on Twitter: @charlottecuthbo

[Nov 17, 2020] What CISA failed to disclose is that Dominion Voting Systems, along with Smartmatic, are members of CISA's Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council - one of the two entities that authored the statement

Dominion cited the CISA statement as exoneration but failed to disclose that the statement was written by a Council of which it was part.
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@themarketswork 4) The joint statement was issued through CISA by the Executive Committee of the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) https:// cisa.gov/news/2020/11/1 2/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election
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8) On Nov. 13, Dominion sent us an email titled "SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT" which cited the joint statement published by GCC and SCC. Dominion cited the CISA statement as exoneration but failed to disclose that the statement was written by a Council of which it was part.
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9) Additionally, while it remains unclear whether CISA and the GCC/SCC have evaluated concerns raised in the Georgia lawsuit, their public statements categorically deny any problems with the systems. 5 320 1K
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[Nov 17, 2020] Pre-Election Concerns Over Dominion Voting Systems Highlighted in Georgia Lawsuit

Nov 17, 2020 | www.theepochtimes.com

Pre-Election Concerns Over Dominion Voting Systems Highlighted in Georgia Lawsuit Cyber security expert raised concerns over integrity of system, including external vulnerabilities, in sworn statement BY JEFF CARLSON November 12, 2020 Updated: November 12, 2020 Print

Software and equipment from Dominion Voting Systems, used in this month's presidential election, has been the source of ongoing controversy, with one legal declaration made by a poll observer of Georgia 's statewide primary earlier this year highlighting multiple problems.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced the state's purchase of a $106 million election system from Dominion Voting Systems in July 2019. In a lawsuit, which originated in 2017, critics contend that the new system was subject to many of the same security vulnerabilities as the one it was replacing.

In an Oct. 11 order , just weeks prior to the presidential election, U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg agreed with the concerns associated with the new Dominion voting system, writing that the case presented "serious system security vulnerability and operational issues that may place Plaintiffs and other voters at risk of deprivation of their fundamental right to cast an effective vote that is accurately counted."

"The Court's Order has delved deep into the true risks posed by the new BMD voting system as well as its manner of implementation. These risks are neither hypothetical nor remote under the current circumstances," Judge Totenberg wrote in her order.

Despite the court's misgivings, Totenberg ruled against replacing the Dominion system right before the presidential election, noting that "Implementation of such a sudden systemic change under these circumstances cannot but cause voter confusion and some real measure of electoral disruption."

Concerns Over Election Systems

In an Aug. 24 declaration from Harri Hursti, an acknowledged expert on electronic voting security , provided a first-hand description of problems he observed during the June 9 statewide primary election in Georgia and the runoff elections on Aug. 11.

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Hursti had been "authorized as an expert inspecting and observing under the Coalition for Good Governance's Rule 34 Inspection request in certain polling places and the Fulton County Election Preparation Center."

Hursti summarized his findings as follows:

  1. "The scanner and tabulation software settings being employed to determine which votes to count on hand marked paper ballots are likely causing clearly intentioned votes not to be counted"
  2. "The voting system is being operated in Fulton County in a manner that escalates the security risk to an extreme level."
  3. "Voters are not reviewing their BMD [Ballot Marking Devices] printed ballots, which causes BMD generated results to be un-auditable due to the untrustworthy audit trail."

During observation at Peachtree Christian Church in Atlanta, Georgia, Hursti noted that the "scanner would vary in the amount of time that it took to accept or reject a ballot."

Hursti stated that a dedicated system should not experience variable delays and noted that "we are always suspicious about any unexpected variable delays, as those are common telltale signs of many issues, including a possibility of unauthorized code being executed."

Hursti observed varying processing times at different locations, further raising concerns as identical physical devices "should not behave differently while performing the identical task of scanning a ballot."

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Hursti stated in his sworn statement that his presence was requested by two poll watchers at the Fanplex polling location who were observing certain unexplained anomalies. Upon arriving, Hursti observed that for "reasons unknown, on multiple machines, while voters were attempting to vote, the ballot marking devices sometimes printed 'test' ballots."

As Hursti noted, "during the election day, the ballot marking device should not be processing or printing any ballot other than the one the voter is voting." Hursti stated that this was indicative of a "wrong configuration" given to the Ballot Marking Device.

The issue also raised other questions in his mind:

  1. "Why didn't the device print only test ballots?"
  2. "How can the device change its behavior in the middle of the election day?"
  3. "Is the incorrect configuration originating from the Electronic Pollbook System?"
  4. "What are the implications for the reliability of the printed ballot and the QR code being counted?"
Wholesale Outsourcing of Operation

During the runoff elections, on the night of Aug. 11, 2020, Hursti was present at the Fulton County Election Preparation Center to observe the "upload of the memory devices coming in from the precincts to the Dominion Election Management System [EMS] server." During this observation, Hursti noted that "system problems were recurring and the Dominion technicians operating the system were struggling with the upload process."

Hursti also noted that it appeared that Dominion personnel were the only ones with knowledge of, and access to, the Dominion server. As Hursti stated in his declaration, "In my conversations with Derrick Gilstrap and other Fulton County Elections Department EPC personnel, they professed to have limited knowledge of or control over the EMS server and its operations."

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Hursti noted that this wholesale outsourcing of the operation of voting equipment to the vendor's personnel was "highly unusual in my experience and of grave concern from a security and conflict of interest perspective." Hursti referred to Dominion's onsite operation and access as "an elevated risk factor."

Hursti also noted that the Dell computers running the Dominion server appeared not to have been "hardened" -- the process of "securing a system by reducing its surface of vulnerability." Hursti said that he found it "unacceptable for an EMS server not to have been hardened prior to installation."

A 'Major Deficiency'

In addition to the hardening problems, Hursti observed that computers used in Georgia's system for vote processing appeared to have "home/small business companion software packages" on them. This raised areas of significant concern for Hursti as he noted:

"[O]ne of the first procedures of hardening is removal of all unwanted software, and removal of those game icons and the associated games and installers alongside with all other software which is not absolutely needed in the computer for election processing purposes would be one of the first and most basic steps in the hardening process. In my professional opinion, independent inquiry should be promptly made of all 159 counties to determine if the Dominion systems statewide share this major deficiency."

In addition to the software packages noted above, Hursti discovered that one of the computers had an icon for a 2017 computer game called "Homescapes" which Hursti noted called into question whether "all Georgia Dominion system computers have the same operating system version, or how the game has come to be having a presence in Fulton's Dominion voting system."

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Hursti also found a troubling blend of old and new equipment which carried additional security risks due to a lack of patch updates:

"Although this Dominion voting system is new to Georgia, the Windows 10 operating system of at least the 'main' computer in the rack has not been updated for 4 years and carries a wide range of well-known and publicly disclosed vulnerabilities."

Hursti noted that the lack of "hardening" created security risks even for computers that were not connected to the internet. He observed that when flash drives were connected to the server, the "media was automounted by the operating system. When the operating system is automounting a storage media, the operating system starts automatically to interact with the device."

Hursti noted that the management of Fulton County's EMS server appeared to be an "ad hoc operation with no formalized process." This seemed particularly apparent in relation to the process of storage media coming in from various precincts throughout the night:

"This kind of operation i[s] naturally prone to human errors. I observed personnel calling on the floor asking if all vote carrying compact flash cards had been delivered from the early voting machines for processing, followed by later finding additional cards which had been overlooked in apparent human error. Later, I heard again one technician calling on the floor asking if all vote carrying compact flashes had been delivered. This clearly demonstrates lack of inventory management which should be in place to ensure, among other things, that no rogue storage devices would be inserted into the computer. In response, 3 more compact flash cards were hand-delivered. Less than 5 minutes later, I heard one of the county workers say that additional card was found and was delivered for processing. All these devices were trusted by printed label only and no comparison to an inventory list of any kind was performed."

Hursti also observed that "operations were repeatedly performed directly on the operating system." The election software has no visibility into the operations of the operating system, which creates additional auditing problems, and as Hursti noted, "Unless the system is configured properly to collect file system auditing data is not complete. As the system appears not to be hardened, it is unlikely that the operating system has been configured to collect auditing data."

https://958a8ec926e8ab0f87c5dff365f8d0b7.safeframe.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-37/html/container.html 'Complete Access'

Raising even greater concerns was the apparent "complete access" that Dominion personnel appeared to have into the computer system. Hursti observed Dominion technicians troubleshooting error messages with a "trial-and-error" approach which included access into the "Computer Management" application, indicating complete access in Hursti's opinion.

As he stated in his declaration, "This means there are no meaningful access separation and privileges and roles controls protecting the county's primary election servers. This also greatly amplifies the risk of catastrophic human error and malicious program execution."

During these attempts to resolve the various issues that were occurring in real-time, Hursti noted that it appeared as though Dominion staff shifted from on-site attempts at remediation to off-site troubleshooting:

"The Dominion staff member walked behind the server rack and made manual manipulations which could not be observed from my vantage point. After that they moved with their personal laptops to a table physically farther away from the election system and stopped trying different ways to work around the issue in front of the server, and no longer talked continuously with their remote help over phone.

In the follow-up-calls I overheard them ask people on the other end of the call to check different things, and they only went to a computer and appeared to test something and subsequently take a picture of the computer screen with a mobile phone and apparently send it to a remote location."

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Hursti stated that this "created a strong mental impression that the troubleshooting effort was being done remotely over remote access to key parts of the system."

Hursti also noted that a "new wireless access point with a hidden SSID access point name appeared in the active Wi-Fi stations list" that he was monitoring.

All of this raised material alarms for Hursti, who noted that "If in fact remote access was arranged and granted to the server, this has gravely serious implications for the security of the new Dominion system. Remote access, regardless how it is protected and organized is always a security risk, but furthermore it is transfer of control out of the physical perimeters and deny any ability to observe the activities."

Recount

On Nov. 11, 2020, Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced that there will be a full recount and audit of all ballots cast in the presidential election.

"With the margin being so close, it will require a full, by-hand recount in each county. This will help build confidence. It will be an audit, a recount and a recanvass all at once," Raffensperger said.

Dominion Voting Systems did not respond to a request for comment.

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[Nov 17, 2020] More about Dominion, Smartronics, Sequoia, UCSB Technology Security

Nov 17, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Deap , 16 November 2020 at 12:28 AM

More about Dominion, Smartronics, Sequoia, UCSB Technology Security, state of California and Venezuala and a whole cast of other characters - foreign and domestic in this 2018 Jenny Cohn article: https://medium.com/@jennycohn1/updated-attachment-states-have-bought-voting-machines-from-vendors-controlled-and-funded-by-nation-6597e4dd3e70

Trust, but verify. I was just searching UCSB and Dominion, and this interesting article popped up.

[Nov 17, 2020] 'Hammer' and 'Scorecard'- Lt. Gen. McInerney explains the election hack by Democrats - The Wentworth Report

Nov 17, 2020 | wentworthreport.com

'Hammer' and 'Scorecard': Lt. Gen. McInerney explains the election hack by Democrats . By JD Rucker.

The Democrats are either cheating or powers above them are cheating on their behalf. Either way, the election is in the process of being stolen if we're to believe Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney during his most recent interview with Two Mikes.

The General described "Hammer" and "Scorecard," a pair of programs initially designed for the CIA before being privatized by Deep State players from the Obama administration. We explained how they work in an article last week, but the gist is this:

" Hammer " or "THE HAMMER" is a counter-intelligence surveillance program used to spy on activities on protected networks (like voting machines) without detection

" Scorecard " is a vote-manipulation application that changes votes during transfer. It's the least detectable form of election manipulation because it works during data transfer between voting stations and data storage hubs. Unless both sides are looking for irregularities, it's impossible to catch. If nefarious forces had people on one side or the other (or both) during data transfer, it cannot be exposed.

What we're seeing happening in Michigan and Wisconsin have all of the trademarks of a "Hammer" and "Scorecard" operation.

Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney exposes 'Scorecard,' the Democrats' voter fraud superweapon . by Scott Boyd.

Voter fraud is happening right now. We all know it; one would be hard pressed to find a single American on either side of the aisle who would not acknowledge that it's taking place. Around half the country realizes (or is willing to admit) it's happening in favor of Democrats, but very few realize just how deep this particular rabbit hole goes.

A CIA program known as "Scorecard" allows its users to change voting outcomes by hacking into the transfer between local reporting stations and state or national data centers.

According to McInerney, it's a small amount, under 3%, to keep it from triggering any alarms. He would know. He served in top military positions under the Secretary of Defense and the Vice President of the United States.

Using software for elections is a grave error, if you want a honest and reliable count. Paper ballots filled in under supervision at a polling place after an ID check are relatively secure and can be recounted.

UPDATE: Sidney Powell discusses Hammer and Scorecard with Lou Dobbs here . Explosive.

UPDATE 12 Nov: Scorecard probably works via the "weighted race" feature of vote counting by computers, which allows fractional votes to be transferred from one candidate to another. See Michigan: MIT PhD Shows Trump's Margin Was Reduced by 138,000 Votes in Just Four Counties by a Counting Computer with the "Weighted Race" Feature Turned On, which Transferred Votes from Trump to Biden!

[Nov 17, 2020] PolitiFact - Debunking the 'Hammer and Scorecard' election fraud conspiracy theory by Jon Greenberg

What Dan Greenberg forgets is that the existence of Hammer was established by WikiLeaks, and can't be classified as a rumor.
I especially like "appeal to authority" argument: " The head of the government agency created by Trump to protect against cyber attacks called the Hammer and Scorecard theory, "nonsense.""
Nov 10, 2020 | www.politifact.com
See the sources for this fact-check

Some fans of President Donald Trump are sharing the theory that a package of CIA computer programs have hacked the 2020 election. One program, called Hammer, cracks into protected networks, while another, called Scorecard, changes vote totals.

Pamela Geller, a right-wing activist and Trump supporter, has posted more than one piece about Hammer and Scorecard. On Nov. 9, her website Geller Report offered an item headlined, " HAMMER / Scorecard Voter Software Fraud in Real Time ."

Geller offered a video clip taken from CNN's 2019 election coverage of the Kentucky governor's race that she called, "Vote switching right in front of your eyes."

Geller's post was flagged as part of Facebook's efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook .)

Before we dive in, let's be clear that independent election security researchers see no evidence that Hammer and Scorecard exist, and the head of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency , a government body created by President Donald Trump in 2018, has said this theory of election interference is " nonsense ."

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With that, let's look at the CNN evidence that Geller takes to be telling.

Dissecting CNN Kentucky election coverage

The video consists of a man giving a running commentary on shifting result totals in the 2019 Kentucky governor's race in which Democrat Andy Beshear defeated incumbent Republican Matt Bevin. At one key moment in CNN's live broadcast, the vote totals change inconsistently.

A large graphic shows Beshear with a total of 674,508, while a smaller running total at the bottom of the screen gives him 673,948. According to the man giving the commentary, the total at the bottom of the screen runs behind the more current one on the larger graphic. In that light, a difference of 560 votes makes sense. The one on the bottom has yet to catch up.

But at the same moment, Bevin's totals show 661,675 on the large graphic, while the one at the bottom shows 662,235. That's 560 votes less than the most up-to-date one on the big graphic. In the view of Geller and the man speaking on the video, the fraud is obvious.

"You have just seen 25% of the loss amount of this race happen in front of your very eyes," the man giving the commentary said.

In the final official tally , Beshear won by over 5,000 votes.

Is this proof of shenanigans?

Two election security experts we reached were unimpressed.

No sign of Hammer and Scorecard

"The broader issue here is that the election night results are not official," said Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor Charles Stewart III. "There's a post-election canvas period when results are checked and mistakes spotted and corrected."

Stewart said there's a key flaw in the theory that the purported software package of Hammer and Scorecard could intercept the digital transmission of vote results and change them. He said the states that do send data that way also keep the data tapes of votes from the original machines.

FEATURED FACT-CHECK Tweets stated on November 3, 2020 in a tweet "Only sign outside Bucks County voting place. Democrats shown, republicans blurred out. More scamming in Pennsylvania!" true false By Jon Greenberg • November 3, 2020

"The results only become official after the election department has compared the paper tapes -- which are immune to supposed hack -- to the initially transferred results," Stewart said.

The CNN election night results are "the sports aspect of elections, not the binding results," said statistics professor at the University of California-Berkeley Philip Stark.

Stark cautioned that no election system comes with 100% ironclad protection against hacking.

"Nothing is perfect, and they are all vulnerable," Stark said. He advocates for greater use of paper ballots and careful post-election audits.

But that said, Stark sees no evidence that any results have been altered in this election or past ones. Regarding the CNN inconsistencies, he noted that CNN contracted for the data feed from a third party vendor. That puts CNN's number even further removed from the official tally.

Stark said nothing in the CNN example holds up.

"That's not how anyone would hack an election," Stark said. "If you really wanted to change the total, you would not change it on election night, where everyone could see it. You would change it in the voting tabulation system."

And for those who think Hammer and Scorecard were deployed in the 2020 election, Stark said that raises the question of why skeptics look only at the presidential race.

"If the motivation was to put the Democrats in power, why didn't they flip the Senate?" Stark posed. "Biden will have a hard time without the Senate. Why would you leave the job half done?"

One of the main promoters of the Hammer and Scorecard theory is a discredited military contractor who claims to have created them.

We asked Geller to respond to the issues raised above. She didn't address the specific matters but said that she sees ample evidence of fraud, including "eyewitness accounts of tens of thousands of ballots coming in the back door (that) should give even you pause, despite your baked-in far-left bias."

We have debunked multiple claims of fraud, including 14,000 dead people voting in Michigan, and poll workers in Pennsylvania filling out ballots.

Our ruling

Geller said that a 2019 CNN video clip shows the work of purported CIA-built hacking software Hammer and Scorecard in action. The clip shows a momentary glitch in election night totals.

The head of the government agency created by Trump to protect against cyber attacks called the Hammer and Scorecard theory, "nonsense."

Election security experts said election night totals are distinct from official results, and post-Election Day vetting by state officials catches discrepancies between local results and totals calculated at the central office. They also noted that if someone truly wanted to steal an election, the example Geller cited makes no practical sense.

We rate this claim Pants on Fire.

CORRECTION: This report has been changed to correct the description of the narrator's discussion of the winning margin in the Beshear-Bevin race.

This fact check is available at IFCN's 2020 US Elections FactChat #Chatbot on WhatsApp. Click here , for more.

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Our Sources

Geller Report, HAMMER / Scorecard Voter Software Fraud in Real Time , Nov. 9, 2020

Geller Report, 'Hammer' and 'Scorecard': Lt. Gen. McInerney explains the election hack by Democrats , Nov. 7, 2020

Chris Krebs, tweet , Nov. 7, 2020

YouTube, video , Nov. 8, 2020

Reuters, TV news clip does not show 'live computerized fraud' on Election Day 2020 , Nov. 9, 2020

Lead Stories, Secret Super-Computer Is NOT Stealing Votes Through Voter Interface Contractor , Nov. 3, 2020

Daily Beast, Infamous 'Hoax' Artist Behind Trumpworld's New Voter Fraud Claim , Nov. 9, 2020

Commonwealth of Kentucky State Board of Elections, Official Nov. 5, 2019 results , accessed Nov. 10, 2020

Interview, Philip B. Stark, professor of statistics and associate dean of Mathematical and Physical Sciences, University of California-Berkeley, Nov. 10, 2020

Email exchange, Charles Stewart III, professor of political science, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Nov. 10. 2020

Email exchange, Pamela Geller, activist, Nov. 10, 2020

[Nov 17, 2020] These NSA/CIA toys were made to modify foreign elections, only now Brennan, Clapper and Mueller had turned them 180 degrees onto the US. Clever, modifying local vote tally files send upstream over Internet on the fly. A few percent from A to B usually does it as it doubles up.

Nov 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Antonym , Nov 17 2020 3:23 utc | 79

OR as Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney said live it were Hammer and Scorecard that flipped the vote tallies. These NSA/CIA toys were made to modify foreign elections, only now Brennan, Clapper and Mueller had turned them 180 degrees onto the US. Clever, modifying local vote tally files send upstream over Internet on the fly. A few percent from A to B usually does it as it doubles up.
https://rumble.com/vaz2ih-hammer-and-scorecard-from-the-censored-youtube-warroom-episode-470.html

That same trio was quite busy collecting leverage / compromat on the domestic who-is-who, including bankers, anchors etc. https://www.blxware.org/

[Nov 17, 2020] 'Hammer' and 'Scorecard'- Lt. Gen. McInerney explains the election hack by Democrats - Geller Report News

Nov 17, 2020 | gellerreport.com

What's happening with the election? As one might normally say, "it's anyone's guess." Except, it isn't. We have a very good idea of exactly what's happening. The Democrats are either cheating or powers above them are cheating on their behalf. Either way, the election is in the process of being stolen if we're to believe Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney during his most recent interview with Two Mikes .

The General described "Hammer" and "Scorecard," a pair of programs initially designed for the CIA before being privatized by Deep State players from the Obama administration. We explained how they work in an article last week, but the gist is this: "Hammer" or "THE HAMMER" is a counter-intelligence surveillance program used to spy on activities on protected networks (like voting machines) without detection while "Scorecard" is a vote-manipulation application that changes votes during transfer. It's the least detectable form of election manipulation because it works during data transfer between voting stations and data storage hubs. Unless both sides are looking for irregularities, it's impossible to catch. If nefarious forces had people on one side or the other (or both) during data transfer, it cannot be

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/02/lt-gen-tom-mcinerney-exposes-scorecard-the-democrats-voter-fraud-superweapon/embed/#?secret=FQuHx94PZ5

What we're seeing happening in Michigan and Wisconsin have all of the trademarks of a "Hammer" and "Scorecard" operation. As I noted earlier, the fix is in . The General talked today with Two Mikes once again to give an update and to call on the White House to act immediately before the election is fully stolen.

https://share.transistor.fm/e/3c1ea08f

This is the type of blockbuster information the left and even many on the right refuse to report. We see with our own eyes how "Hammer" and "Scorecard" are being used in Wisconsin and Michigan. Will the President let it fly?


exposed.

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/02/democrats-colluding-with-cia-to-launch-intelligence-operation-that-alters-voting-machine-results-report/embed/#?secret=jZ6TSE6DaH

The day before the election, General McInerney spoke to Two Mikes about the details surrounding "Scorecard" and called on the White House and the Trump campaign to take action before voting started.

[Nov 17, 2020] The category of US elections dirty tricks may be expanding.

Nov 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

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The category of US elections dirty tricks may be expanding.

One can debate about sabotaging vaccine announcements or the recovery plans. The second much more dirty because it's more than propaganda war, it really hurts a lot of people.

But maybe because he's Trump and not a good looser. Maybe because his plan was for post elections' mess all along. Maybe because he believes it's fair revenge.

Trump seems to be ready to deliver the likely Biden administration a welcoming gift in the form of a defining mess it will never get rid of. And that may just be one piece of it...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/us/politics/trump-iran-nuclear.html

[Nov 17, 2020] Dr.SHIVA LIVE- MIT PhD Continued Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals More Election Fraud. - YouTube

Nov 17, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Signal Detection of Election Fraud in Voting Systems Michigan 2020 Trump-Biden Analysis An Engineering Systems Approach Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD November 16, 2020 w: [email protected] e: Vashiva.com m: 617-631-6874

Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, the Inventor of Email, Scientist, Engineer calls for for an Engineering Systems Approach to Signal Detection of Election Fraud after recognizing the significant gap in understanding of current data scientists and "mathematicians."

He discusses and educates you on the field of engineering systems and pattern recognition as the foundation for building a framework for signal detection of election fraud.

Summary

Signals of election fraud clearly exist in Michigan First video shared the "signal" of fraud to raise alarm Need for election data systems engineers "Mathematicians" need some serious training This is not JUST math Need for domain expertise "Weighted race features" EXISTS Can we detect when the feature is enabled? Can we detect election fraud?

When the number of participating voters exceed the number of registed voters

Massachusetts US Primary Senate Races September 1, 2020

City/Town Number of Participating
Voters
Number of
Votes Cast
Number of Excess
Ballots
BOSTON 142,911 147,025 4,114
LAWRENCE 8,811 8,886 "75
NEW BEDFORD 8,914 13,725 4,811
PLYMOUTH 15,902 16,356 454
NEWTON 30,284 32,064 1,780
BARNSTABLE 13,675 13,734 59
ROCKLAND 1,644 3,931 2,287

Weighted Race

Algorithm - a Weighted Race allocation method Transfer % of votes from one candidate to another The % is a "Weighted" decimal value Weighted Race is a documented feature in election systems as early as 2001 All Major Vendors are believed to have this feature Diebold had the original feature

Can we deterct that Weighted Race was enabled

Research Aim: Pattern Analysis of Election Fraud

Specific Aim 1 - Signal Detection: Feature extraction - discover relevant features Specific Aim 2 - Signal Detection: Clustering - determine normal and abnormal states Specific Aim 3 - Modeling: Learning - build a repository of signals & developcausal models e.g. modeling

Path forward for Election Integrity • The Inputs and the Outputs to our voting systems ARE unverifiable • Need for: - Verifiable Inputs: e.g. Permanent Voter Registration Card - Open source software - Handmarked Paper ballots - Save ballot images pursuant to Federal Law - Publish ballot images publicly (allows for public recount) - Automatic audits - audit every election - Publish precinct level data ("poll tapes") on election night

[Nov 17, 2020] -No, This Is Trump-- Georgia Recount Auditor Claims Multiple Trump Ballots Fraudulently Called For Biden -

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Nov 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"No, This Is Trump": Georgia Recount Auditor Claims Multiple Trump Ballots Fraudulently Called For Biden


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A GOP recount observer in Georgia claims that several ballots recorded as Biden were actually votes for Trump , and workers conducting the recount became angry when he reported what was happening to elections officials.

The insider told Project Veritas , "The second person was supposed to be checking it right, three times in three minutes she called out Biden," adding "The second auditor caught it and she said, " No, this is Trump .""

"Now, that's just while I'm standing there. So, does the second checker catch it every time? But this lady in three times in three minutes from 2:09 to 2:12 she got three wrong."" he continued, adding "They were calling their bosses. They were pointing at me..."

Watch:

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Earlier in the day, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger hit back against claims that he facilitated an unfair, illegal ballot count . He's also been accused of trying to skip the manual recount altogether, and initially "wanted to just rescan the bar codes & be done with it."

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Welcome To America

Welcome To The Most Corrupt Nation On The Planet......Fact

Welcome To The Most Dumbest Naive Brainwashed Nation On The Planet....Fact

smellmyfingers , 3 hours ago

This is click bait for people who want Trump and and an honest election.

The evidence is overwhelming. They will do Nothing.

You reap what you sow, America better get ready for a totally lawless society because it's coming.

The First Rule , 1 hour ago

Fulton and Dekalb Counties are cesspools of Democrat Cheating (as is apparently areas of Cobb).

Brad Raffensperger knows this. He just doesn't care to make sure the votes are counted accurately there.

If he did, Trump would win GA. And Perdue would NOT be in a Run-Off.

But Brad's boss, George Soros, would frown upon that.

Normalcy Bias , 3 hours ago

This is exactly why they've made Republican Poll Watchers stand back 50'-100.'

Having spent over half of my life in or in a county next to Fulton, I'd wager that half of the Fulton County poll workers aren't even literate.


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Didymus , 3 hours ago

and gop allows it. they never fight, they always give in.

LetThemEatRand , 3 hours ago

Uniparty.

Sven Novgorod , 2 hours ago

The Uniparty = Deepstate.

It's been like this for a long time and when you look back in time with that point of view most of the unusual laws and decisions made by lawmakers over the years start to make sense, at least from the point of view of the Uniparty and it's associates.

Gerrilea , 2 hours ago

Psychotic question, seriously. Blame the victim.

The American public has been trained & conditioned like Pavlov's dogs to believe our government has our best interests at heart. Hell, I believed it for a very long time. Slowly I woke up to the Uniparty after the 2004 election.

We can't have endless wars & war profiteering by multi-national conglomerates like Halliburton without cannon fodder AND Pelosi giving her "men" in the White House, all the money and resources the American people can offer for the next 10 generations.

We've been continually sold a bill of goods that most did not realize was a poison pill. "The Crime Bill", "took a bite out of crime". When in reality it created the Prison Industrial Complex that initiated the New American Plantation and how we got a CANDIDATE for the VP position whom actually argued in court NOT to allow criminals out whom had done their time BECAUSE it would hurt the business model of the prison.

I could go on and on AND all we are left with is armed restoration of Constitutional Law and bringing the traitors before a military tribunal for execution.

Kan , 2 hours ago

98% of the counties are NOT corrupt, so you'd not see much just the software slowly without your knowledge moving the numbers over to the BLUE candidates and RHINO's.

That is why most of the map of counties is RED and not BLUE. You only need some of the most populous locations in the past because the news was setup to keep us around 50/50 all the time... But in this case its 30% more trump votes they have to overcome with cheating in the democrap cities.

slightlyskeptical , 32 minutes ago

The recount will give the answer on the machines. Thus far they haven't found any machine tabulating errors in the recounts.

DebbieDowner , 2 hours ago

Spent my time trying NOT to get into politics, because it's a waste of my talents and skills.

What a sham... there was never any way to WIN. The only option was/is all out war.

Peace_and_Love , 3 hours ago

So, they need to stop the whole effing process and start over, and have every damned vote verified by both parties, with video recording the damned process.

LetThemEatRand , 3 hours ago

The interesting question is whether Trump (a highly flawed candidate who brought us a bigger banker bailout than Bush/Obama by far) is going to finally wake up middle America to the fact that elections don't matter. If he accomplishes that, he won. Bigly.

[Nov 17, 2020] Wayne Dupree: Trump should stay on the job, remain confident keep going with his legal action all the way to the Supreme Court

Nov 17, 2020 | www.rt.com

If this does go to the Supreme Court, I don't think fraudulent ballots should have to be demonstrated, and here's why. What the Supreme Court should require is sufficient evidence that election laws were violated in a way that makes it impossible to assure voters in their state that the election was fair. If that's the case, the Court should seek a remedy.

To the extent that potentially fraudulent ballots are already mixed in with legally-cast ballots, the only remedies are a re-vote in the affected precincts, or a ruling that the result can't stand and let the state(s) involved work within the confines of the Constitution to select its representatives to go to the Electoral College.

It will also be interesting to see how the liberal justices react to evidence of obvious violations of election laws.

The key point here is that it is those violations that need to be proven. Fraudulent ballots have been mixed in with the legal ones. They can't be sorted out for the most part, which is why you'll be hearing a constant cry from Dems and the media to show them the fraudulent ballots, even while they ignore every bit of the growing pile of evidence that laws were violated.

Right now, we need to focus our efforts on making sure every legal ballot is counted, and the phony ones are tossed out with Fox News. We also need to focus our time and money on Georgia's runoff Senate elections in January because you know that Dems will flood that state with dark money and more shenanigans.

The fake news polls were supposed to have the intended effect of hindering fundraising for Trump and down-ballot GOP candidates. Who wants to donate to a campaign when the polls show a win is impossible? That's the whole point of these suppression polls: They discourage fundraising and discourage voting ('why bother, our candidate is going to lose!'). And Fox News had the worst polls now that we know how things turned out.

allan Kaplan 13 November, 2020 13 Nov, 2020 12:40 PM

On planet earth's history of the United States governments that came and gone none stood the unending battles of all kinds, all colors, all sizes with all conceivable deception that has been unleashed on America's single most embattled President than the President Donald Trump. History would testify how his national security apparatuses joined in a Game of Thrones between the armies of the evil NWO and their diehard soldiers of ultimate control of the masses of the United States. Donald Trump's legacy would write the history of America's total destruction of freedom of speech, freedom of choice, freedom of expression, and most of all, freedom of honest and impartial elections. And the worse of them all of the culprits would be the army of "checks and balances" that was the designated as "Free Press" that has incontestably and with total devotion to the destruction of its moral and ethical duties and responsibilities, joined the forces of the evil NWO!

New Chapters of the history of Post Donald Trump America would be written with the thicker ink of blood of the Americans that shall live forever in infamy for the rest of the nations of the world to read with disgust and dismay that the world has ever witnessed to have lived in a country once was known as the United States of America!

[Nov 17, 2020] US Coup d'Etat- Joe Biden -President-Selected- Not Elected. Evidence of Systemic Fraud

Nov 17, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

Election 2020 results key swing state Pennsylvania Trump won in 2016 were "fraudulent because they are nearly statistically impossible," adding:

On election night after polls closed, Trump led Biden/Harris "by nearly 700,000 votes," a virtually "insurmountable lead."

The next day, DJT lead by a 56% – 43% margin.

"According to Pennsylvania's election returns website, on election day Trump won nearly two thirds of all votes cast in the state" -- a landslide margin.

Yet Biden/Harris did the near-impossible. State election authorities claimed they won after an unreported number of mail-in ballots were counted.

For three days post-election, ballots arriving late were included in the count.

What happened defied "Pennsylvania's constitution which states that the voting process is to be determined by the legislature."

State law prohibits the procedure followed. Rules were changed for Election 2020.

Despite an election-day landslide for Trump, state authorities claimed he only won about 20% of mail-in votes.

It gets worse.

Gateway Pundit: Trump "won two thirds of the Election Day vote."

Except for "Philadelphia, (he) won around 80% of the (in-person) vote in each county in the state."

"In almost every county throughout the state, (he) was awarded a percent of votes 40% less than the percent (he) won on election day."

The pattern was almost the same in "every county (except) Philadelphia" where he only got "30%" of the election day total.

Consistent results in the state's 67 counties -- except for Philadelphia -- were "almost" statistically impossible.

It never happened before in the state, maybe never again. The pattern was unlike results in previous US presidential elections.

"It is clear that corrupt (Dems) in Pennsylvania did all they could to steal the 2020 presidential election for Joe Biden," said Gateway Pundit.

"There was no excitement for the Biden campaign and there still isn't."

He and Harris didn't win Pennsylvania. State election authorities stole it from Trump.

Note: Judicial Watch head Tom Fitton reported that "(i)n PA there are more people voting than are registered to vote," adding:

An "electoral coup" occurred on November 3.

According to Judicial Watch data, "many states report(ed) voter registration rates above 100%" of registered voter totals.

"(A)cross America voter (rolls) are filthy in terms of having more people on the(m) than are eligible to vote."

As of September 2020, "335 US counties had 1.8 million more registered voters than eligible voting-age citizens."

For Election 2020, "vote totals are changing because of unprecedented, extraordinary, illicitly secretive, and inherently suspect counting AFTER" polls closed.

In a follow-up report, Gateway Pundit said "WE CAUGHT THEM" in Michigan.

Dems "stole the battleground states," including Michigan. Fraud occurred there similar to what happened in Pennsylvania.

In "three major (Michigan) counties, Trump's margin was reduced by a minimum of 138,000 votes."

"The transfer was done by a computer algorithm that linearly transferred the votes from Trump to Biden."

The "vote transfer was greater in Republican precincts than" Dem ones.

"Tens of thousands of votes were transferred" this way -- from Trump to Biden/Harris.

Similar evidence is likely to surface in other swing states if independent analysis is conducted.

According to an AmericanThinker.com report, Georgia's recount is "being conducted with as little respect for transparency as the original vote count."

In Georgia and other states, millions of ballots were mailed "to anyone on the voter registers" -- including former state residents and deceased ones, maybe non-registered voters as well.

In Dem-run states, "voting became as easy and as vulnerable to fraud as going to a shopping mall, filling out names on slips of paper" for almost anything, including for someone else.

The Georgia recount is doing "nothing" to correct this fraud.

Most likely, the same is true in unknown numbers of other states.

The bottom line is that US elections lack legitimacy.

Ballots can be counted, discarded, or shifted to someone else -- including by electronic ease for in-person voting.

Swing states for Biden that Trump won in 2016 likely turned out this way.

When election procedures are suspect, legitimacy of results is absent.

In election 2020, Trump got more votes than any other GOP presidential candidate in US history, more than his own 2016 total -- including in unlikely places like New York city.

He drew huge crowds for campaign rallies compared to sparse ones for Biden.

Despite evidence of significant election fraud in key swing states as discussed above and in previous articles, establishment media across the board and DHS pretended that none occurred.

Do your own fact-checking. Judge for yourself.

Independent historians one day will likely explain that Biden/Harris were declared winners of Election 2020 they lost to Trump.

As things now stand, that's likely how the race for the White House will turn out.

Popular sentiment in most states, including key swing ones, and Trump both lost.

So did the notion of a free, fair, and open process.

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[Nov 17, 2020] Elections should be paper, pencil and cardboard boxes ONLY!

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Capt. MegaHash , 1 hour ago

I have 20 years plus in telecom and IT, project management. I can tell you that 80%+ of these people have a leftist-bent and a very snide attitude towards Conservatives and Libertarians. There is no way I would want these people to be in charge of anything related to voting at all!

On these grounds alone, I say that elections should be paper, pencil and cardboard boxes ONLY !

Woodley , 1 hour ago

With redundant counting, to be compared at the completion.

DieSocialJusticeWankers , 1 hour ago

Remember what the Dems have been doing to Trump for almost 5 years! Why wouldn't they commit fraud???

Seems like a 100% expectation that the Dems would do this. I would be confused if they didn't commit fraud.

They've been lying and scamming about Trump for 5 years! This is normal Dem behavior!

[Nov 17, 2020] CIA Head Gina Haspel 'Should Be Fired' Over Election Software 'Glitches', Trump Lawyer Says - Sputnik International

Nov 17, 2020 | sputniknews.com

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Earlier on Monday, President Donald Trump claimed he had "won the 2020 election", also publishing a series of tweets, in which he lambasted "radical left-owned Dominion voting systems". Although the official tally from the election is yet to be announced, Joe Biden has declared himself US president-elect.

The US president's attorney, Sidney Powell, has called for CIA Director Gina Haspel to be fired for disregarding warnings about voting software that Powell claimed was "designed to rig" the 3 November election.

"Why Gina Haspel is still there in the CIA is beyond my comprehension. She should be fired immediately", Powell told Fox News on Sunday, pointing to alleged problems with Dominion Voting Systems' software used in several of the key battleground states during Election Day.

She referred to an array of "whistleblowers" who she said may confirm that the Dominion software was ostensibly used to scrap "millions" of votes cast in favour of Trump.

When asked about evidence, Powell claimed that she had "lots of ways to prove it", but that she was "not gonna tell on national TV what all we have".

Her remarks echoed those made by President Donald Trump in his latest series of tweets, in which he specifically criticised what he described as "radical left-owned Dominion Voting Systems", also insisting that the US "cannot allow the fake results of the 2020 mail-in election to stand".

This followed the president tweeting that Joe Biden won "because the election was rigged", adding in a follow-up post that he "concedes nothing", as the Democratic contender only won "in the eyes of [the] fake news media".

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Dominion, in turn, claimed in a statement published on its website that it "categorically denies false assertions about vote switching issues with our voting system".

The Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency seemed to strike the same tone, insisting "there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised".

The statement came after Trump campaign attorney Jay Sekulow demanded recounts in every state using the Dominion software that he claimed wrongly gave 6,000 votes to Democrats in one Michigan county during the election.

"If 30 states have used the software that there's already proved to be a glitch of 6,000 votes in one balloting area [...] lawyers should be... demanding a manual recount. Post-election litigation is important to protect the integrity of the election process, as the president said, and to protect the constitution frankly", Sekulow asserted.

U.S. President Donald Trump walks down the West Wing colonnade from the Oval Office to the Rose Garden to deliver an update on the so-called Operation Warp Speed program, the joint Defense Department and HHS initiative that has struck deals with several drugmakers in an effort to help speed up the search for effective treatments for the ongoing coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic, at the White House in Washington, U.S., November 13, 2020. © REUTERS / CARLOS BARRIA Trump Says Georgia Vote Recount Should Stop as Matching Signatures Not Shown Trump has repeatedly accused the Dominion Voting Systems Corporation of being responsible for its vote-tallying machine software erroneously "flipping" votes to Democrats.

POTUS also suggested that the "glitches" in voting machines reported at some polling stations on Election Day was evidence of the Democrats trying to "steal" votes from him during vote counting in key states.

The president declines to concede the election to Biden , who earlier proclaimed himself president-elect and is currently involved in forming his transition team, despite the official tally not having been announced yet.

[Nov 16, 2020] Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell- -We're Getting Ready To Overturn Election Results In Multiple States

The worst think about Dominion software is that the fraud might be bipartisan and preapproved. Implemented along with the introduction of voting machine for specific purpose of controlling the results of the elections.
Otherwise it is "highly unlikely" that this Window based machines would be allowed by intelligence agencies to tally votes in national elections. S voting machines are about the control of population, not about counting votes.
Nov 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Jack Phillips via The Epoch Times,

Former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell , a Trump campaign lawyer, suggested in a Sunday interview that there is still more evidence coming out in President Donald Trump's claims of voter fraud and irregularities.

"We're getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states," Powell said, saying that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation.

"I don't make comments without having the evidence to back it up," she added, saying that elections software switched "millions of votes" from Trump to Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

Powell notably provided legal counsel to Gen. Michael Flynn in 2019. She was named to Trump's legal team in the past several days.

Powell said a whistleblower came forward and said the elections software was designed to "rig elections," saying that "he saw it happen in other countries," referring to voting systems Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, or perhaps other software and machines.

"We have so much evidence, I feel like it's coming in through a fire hose," Powell said, while noting that she won't reveal the evidence that she has.

"They can stick a thumb drive in the [voting] machine, they can upload software to it even from the Internet from Germany or Venezuela even," she said, adding that operations "can watch votes in real-time" and "can shift votes in real-time," or alleged bad actors can "remote access anything."

"We've identified mathematically the exact algorithm they've used -- and planned to use from the beginning" that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell remarked.

Powell also made reference to a 2019 investigation from Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), as well as other Democratic lawmakers into Dominion Voting Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Hart InterCivic. The senators had expressed concerns about the security of the voting systems.

"(W)e have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry -- an integral part of our nation's democratic process," wrote the lawmakers in their letters to the firms about a year ago.

"These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack."

Later in the Sunday morning interview, Powell said that her team has "detected voting irregularities that are inexplicable" in states where officials believe they have valid systems.

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, left, and President Donald Trump in file photographs. (Getty Images; Reuters)

During the election, Republicans in the House were able to flip at least 11 seats while the GOP is poised to maintain control of the Senate. Some conservatives have questioned how such a voting pattern is possible for Biden to win the presidential election, let alone receive more votes than any other presidential candidate in American history, including President Barack Obama's victory in 2008.

Companies Respond

The Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity agency issued a statement on Thursday calling the 2020 general election the "most secure in American history," despite multiple legal challenges alleging a variety of alleged voting irregularities across a number of battleground states.

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double-checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result," read the statement released by the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA).

Smartmatic, in a statement on Saturday, said that it has no ties with Dominion Voting Systems. Powell suggested that Smartmatic is operated by Dominion in the interview.

Dominion, over the past several weeks, has repeatedly denied its systems were compromised in some way.

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"In the aftermath of the 2020 general election, there has been a great deal of misinformation being circulated about Smartmatic and other companies that provide election technology to voting jurisdictions in the US. We would like to dispel these incorrect statements with facts," the firm wrote, adding that it "has never owned any shares or had any financial stake in Dominion Voting Systems."

Dominion also refuted allegations that its machines changed votes from Trump to Biden on Election Day and beyond.

"Dominion Voting Systems categorically denies any claims about any vote switching or alleged software issues with our voting systems," a company spokesperson said in a statement to The Denver Post. "Our systems continue to reliably and accurately count ballots, and state and local election authorities have publicly confirmed the integrity of the process."


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y_arrow 16 Billy the Poet , 3 hours ago

Sidney Powell Releases the Kraken on Sunday Morning Futures - She Has Proof of Fraud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINl15MPhuY

Sidney Powell with Eric Bolling on the accuracy of Dominion voting machines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNX1GpM8izs

Giuliani - Foreign Software That's Been Used To Steal Elections In Other Countries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k-lTPFLcR0

nmewn , 3 hours ago

The algorithm is documented here, which is what I believe she is talking about...

https://joannenova.com.au/2020/11/electronic-vote-fraud-equation-revealed-in-michigan-in-4-counties-138000-fake-votes-for-biden/

...as an aside, I'm willing to bet this will be memory holed very soon by Gawgle...however, the presentation has been copied and preserved for posterity.

Any takers? ;-)

Colonel Lingus , 2 hours ago

Used to be Globalist BS with the Diebol equipment before Dominion (had a backdoor bigger and nastier than a Kartrashian). Here's how you fix voting. Take it away from the States. Capital punishment if one even thinks about having anything like the "hanging chad" nonsense ever. Publicize the quick and brutal speedy trial, and burning at the stake for the perps...(Lots of libturd Dem's wouldn't be home for Christmas too bad)

skizex , 23 minutes ago

at least 28-30 states use the software.

philipat , 2 hours ago

IF (and that's a big if) electronic systems are to be used for elections, the software should be open-source and the systems should not be open to the internet. Given the importance of elections to our "democracy", the Federal Government should be capable of developing and publishing such software. If not, BUY a Company and do the same.Personally, I still believe that paper ballots, which can be checked and recounted at will, remain the best and least suspect method.

nmewn , 2 hours ago

"Personally, I still believe that paper ballots, which can be checked and recounted at will, remain the best and least suspect method."

Correct and agreed.

Also, the great thing about paper ballots is we can "see" which ballots only have one mark on them...that being...for President (which is another statistical anomaly).

I mean, what "real live legal voter" only votes for a Presidential candidate and nothing else on the down ballot selections? Like, who do you prefer being your Senator, your Representative?

There is a historical representation from past elections to compare that to in this one ;-)

Ms. Erable , 1 hour ago

Dunno why fed.gov hasn't used The Big .Gov Stick via the Federal Elections Commision to dictate the standards required of states to paticipate in a federal election. Your state doesn't meet the standards? Your results for any and all federal offices are null and void - possibly resulting in your state having zero representation at the federal level.

teutonicate , 3 hours ago

Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell: "We're Getting Ready To Overturn Election Results In Multiple States"

Once it becomes apparent that this scandal is busting wide open, expect a lot more "evidence" from rats jumping the corrupt ship - rather than being caught when the music stops.

Powell already says that she has evidence coming at her "like a fire hose". I bet, there has to be a lot of rats out their looking for an exit!

www.germanica.org

Bernout Sanders , 2 hours ago

According to Gateway Pundit the head of security for Dominion posted a pro-antifa manifesto.

MadameDeficit , 1 hour ago

Yup, Eric Coomer.

Oltman alleged that "Eric" was telling the Antifa members they needed to "keep up the pressure." When Oltman asked, "Who's Eric?" someone answered, "Eric, he's the Dominion guy." Oltman said that as the conversation continued, someone asked, "What are we gonna do if F*cking Trump wins?" Oltman paraphrased how Eric (the Dominion guy) responded, "Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!"

Dominion Voting Systems Security Chief Was Allegedly Anti-Trump Antifa Supporter Who Posted Antifa "Manifesto" Letter To Trump

Billy the Poet , 3 hours ago

Lots of evidence for those who are willing to see.

Whistleblower and Dominion Staffer Saw Detroit Voter Fraud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF12gZ_mkHQ&feature=emb_title

debtserf , 3 hours ago

As part of our attempts to investigate Antifa in Colorado, I have been logging onto Antifa "conference calls" (for lack of a better word). A few weeks ago, I was on one of those calls and heard a man named Eric Coomer, an executive at Dominion Voting Systems, reassure other leftists on the call that Trump could not win because he 'made sure of it.' As we investigated Coomer further, we found that he was rabidly anti-Trump and emphatically pro-Antifa. Not only was he rooting for Trump to lose, but he also wanted it to be by a huge margin so there would be "no recounts."

https://conservative-daily.com/2020/11/10/unbelievable-glitches-in-election-systems-may-have-changed-results/

Release the Kraken

Yamaoka Tesshu , 3 hours ago

How do we fix these machines, Beavis?

https://youtu.be/XchwE9zVdnw

DarthVaderMentor , 3 hours ago

In the computer quality control business we used to have a term for the process (first used on the Space Shuttle Transportation System Computers). It's called the "Forklift Upgrade". When there is any doubt, replace and remove the whole damned machine. The military and law enforcement use this technique on life critical systems. You got a glitch, you replace the whole damn machine. That's why we have modularization.

No fixing, no sudden arrivals of repair people in the middle of the night. You only replace with another sealed certified machine. After replacement, you have the poll managers run THEIR audit and visible to all parties that want to see it, maybe even post the audit on the wall so all voters can see it.

Poll managers make decision and they can actually do it themselves. No techies allowed on site except to vote.

No techies, no fraud.

[Nov 16, 2020] The Extremist at Dominion Voting Systems by DARRYL COOPER

Those companies rely on lobbying and are in the pocket of politicians. They depend on contracts and they spent a lot of money on lobbying. 2020 Election Security - C-SPAN.org
Nov 16, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Whether or not the company's machines were misused, it poses structural risks, and suppressing criticism will make Trump supporters even more dubious WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 09: (L-R) President and CEO of Election Systems & Software Tom Burt, President and CEO of Dominion Voting Systems John Poulos, President and CEO of Hart InterCivic Julie Mathis testify during a hearing before the House Administration Committee January 9, 2020 on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)

It is unlikely that many of the 73 million people who cast ballots for Donald Trump in 2020 will ever accept the legitimacy of his loss. Who could convince them? If the media sources demanding Trump's concession held any sway with Trump's voters, they would not have been his voters. They do not know for sure that the election was stolen, but they do know with apodictic certainty that the media would lie to them if it was. So if Donald Trump says the election was stolen, that's good enough for the Deplorables.

Yet even the President's most faithful must have flinched at his recent tweet accusing a leading manufacturer of voting machines of committing election fraud on a mass scale.

It is hard to overstate the irresponsibility of broadcasting such a serious accusation without proof. It shocked me, and my startle response has become pretty desensitized over the last four years. Sure, it turned out Trump was right when he accused the Obama administration of spying on his 2016 campaign, but this is different. Dominion Voting Systems is not staffed with Obama appointees, after all. I decided to poke around a bit to see what, if anything, could possibly be behind Trump's wild accusation.

A Twitter user named Joe Oltmann had tweeted a few screenshots of a Facebook user posting Antifa manifestos and songs about killing police. The Facebook account belonged to Eric Coomer, and Oltmann claimed it was the same Eric Coomer who is the Director of Product Strategy and Security for Dominion Voting Systems. Within hours of Oltmann posting the information, however, the Facebook page of Eric Coomer was taken down, so I was unable to verify that Antifa Coomer and Dominion Coomer were the same person. By the end of the day, Joe Oltmann's Twitter account was suspended as well. I had followed his feed throughout the day. I can say with certainty that he posted nothing remotely offensive or provocative. I have no doubt whatsoever that Twitter suspended him for posting the screenshots of Coomer's Facebook page. Interesting.

Searching around some more, I found that Dominion Coomer is an avid climber who used to post frequently on climbing message boards under his own name. He confirmed it himself in a post where he mentioned getting his nuclear physics Ph.D from Berkeley in 1997. Dominion's Eric Coomer received his nuclear physics Ph.D from Berkeley in 1997. In another post on the same message board, Coomer gave out his email address. It was his old campus address from the Berkeley nuclear physics department. I plugged that email address into the Google machine, and things got weird.

I found Eric Coomer had a long history of posting on websites for skinheads. He was a heavy user of a Google Group for skinheads, and seems to have possibly been a content moderator for papaskin.com. Only these aren't the neo-Nazis our mothers warned us about. These skinheads call themselves SHARPs, or Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice. Think of them as a sort of punk rock Antifa. In 2012, roughly 18 SHARPs attacked a smaller group of suspected racists in a Chicago restaurant with bats and batons. That same year, three neo-Nazis were charged for the 1998 double murder of two SHARPs in Nevada.

Given that Dominion's Director of Security and Strategy, Eric Coomer, was an enthusiast of a street fighting anti-racist skinhead culture going back at least into the 1990s, it seems very likely that Joe Oltmann was correct in identifying him as the Facebook user recently endorsing Antifa and posting anti-police rhetoric. I shared this information on a few message boards to let other people run with it. Within hours, Papa Skin, a skinhead website which had been up for over 20 years, was taken offline. (Whoever took it down missed the FAQ page, you can find it here http://www.papaskin.com/faq/faqs.html ).

Of course none of this proves any fraud took place, but we deserve some answers. One need only imagine if it was Joe Biden contesting the election results, and the Director for Strategy & Security at a major voting machine provider turned out to be a Proud Boy with decades of involvement in extremist, even violent, right wing political groups. Democrats would rightly point out that this person endorses engaging in illegal behavior to achieve political goals. They would ask how such a person ended up in such an important position of public trust, and what it might say about the procedures in place to ensure Dominion's responsibilities are handled in good faith.

Another reality of the Dominion fiasco, whether or not there was any fraud using its machines, is the structural risk created by having the same company run machines in more than two dozen states. If there were glitchy machines causing a dispute in one state, like Democrats' claims about Diebold machines in Ohio in 2004, and even if that dispute led to competing slates of electors, that is something the American political system has seen and withstood before. Having potentially tens of millions of people doubting results in a half-dozen different states thanks to the same company running machines in all of them is an unprecedentedly serious problem, whether or not their doubts are well-founded.

Moreover, platforms like Twitter and WordPress would do well to consider that censorship of people discussing Dominion and its employees is likely to have the opposite effect that they think it will: Twitter bans, site removals, and wiping of bios from websites are only going to make Trump's hardcore supporters think Dominion has something to hide. You can't make disagreements go away by banning one side and pretending there is unanimity.

Darryl Cooper is the host of the MartyrMade podcast.


Kiyoshi01 11 hours ago

This claim is fairly easy to check. The machine prints out a paper record that is viewable by the voter and saved for purposes of auditing.
JPH Kiyoshi01 8 hours ago
Actually voting is not audited as any accountant will be able to confirm.
RepublicanDon Kiyoshi01 3 hours ago
They also export data in JSON to media outlets. The JSON files showed interesting anomalies.
HistoryProf JPH an hour ago

Good summary of one of the pools, run by the Associated Press.

"How do news organizations count the vote returns on election night?

Votes are tabulated county by county by the Associated Press, a non-profit news agency which uses its national network of more than 4,000 reporters on election night to record the vote tallies from county clerks and other local officials. The AP also gathers information from state websites that post election returns. Reporters feed that information back to AP's vote counting operation, where analysts make decisions about which races are ready to be called.

What do reporters do with the local tallies?

AP reporters across the country phone the results to data entry people in specially set up election centers where they are entered into an electronic system. Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the election centers are virtual in 2020. All vote counts are subject to a series of checks and verifications, including computer programs that set off alerts if there are inconsistencies with the vote count because of previous voting history or other data."

https://www.voanews.com/202...

JPH HistoryProf an hour ago

Link provided is much appreciated. Gathering data from state websites is what I expected. Such website scraping is probably fully automated simply to be able to keep up. Keep in mind that State/county/precinct results in a truly enormous volumes of data. Of course AP is advertising its effort, but having that amount of data transferred through a human chain would result in far too many errors.

RepublicanDon HistoryProf 8 minutes ago

Nobody types data into JSON files. They are exported from databases.
If data was being corrupted by human error, the errors would be random and would benefit both sides.

HistoryProf 10 hours ago

So TAC is now reprinting stories from GatewayPundit? Infowars next?

bumbershoot HistoryProf 4 hours ago

Next stop, QAnon!

RepublicanDon HistoryProf 3 hours ago

The truth is where you find it. Since the legacy media has gone full propaganda mill, you have to start looking in new and exciting places.

stari_momak HistoryProf an hour ago

This story seems well researched. Perhaps show us where the writer is in error.

JPH =marco01= 8 hours ago

Yeah, Muller didn't even know who GPS was during his presentation.and his two year waste of money and 400 page report was a big dud. Didn't even interview Assange.
Recently the Director of National Intelligence revealed that mid 2016 Obama was briefed that Clinton instigated the Russiagate hoax. Still Obama not even let that run but requested Comey during the meeting 5th January 2017 to put the "right people" on it. Actually there is only Obamagate weaponizing of the intelligence services against the Trump campaign. Oh yeah do not overlook the kickback scheme with Ukraine and China of Biden so there is a Bidengate too.

JPH 8 hours ago

"It is hard to overstate the irresponsibility of broadcasting such a serious accusation without proof."

Actually this demonstrates the total lack intellectual curiosity and of really wanting to know what is going on.

You may note that the chairman of Smartmatic Peter Neffenger now has joined the Biden transition team. So he will be in charge of covering up this election fraud mess?

You know that Biden :

https://cdn.embedly.com/widgets/media.html?src=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2FWGRnhBmHYN0%3Ffeature%3Doembed&display_name=YouTube&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWGRnhBmHYN0&image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FWGRnhBmHYN0%2Fhqdefault.jpg&key=21d07d84db7f4d66a55297735025d6d1&type=text%2Fhtml&schema=youtube

disgustoo JPH 6 hours ago

yea, so it's not at all surprising that a high ranking military deep stater should be in a director's role at both warmonger Biden's transition team & a widely used automated voting system. Smartmatic's software was found to be faulty in elections in 2010 & 2013 in the Philippines & has been rejected three different times by the state of Texas for security problems. Smartmatic - which has had a working relationship with Dominion - also has been providing electoral services to Venezuela since 2004; & in 2017 was forced to admit that the results of the 2017 legislative election had been tampered with.Given that the Democratic(sic) Party here also aims for a socialist govt., that somehow seems alarmingly appropriate.

Woland JPH 2 hours ago

As another European, I have no problem believing that Dominion Voting Systems is attempting to steal the election for Biden. After all, DVS has acquired the voting machines division of Diebold, which we all know stole the 2000 and 2004 elections for W. Bush. The whole current mess just proves that DVS has been thoroughly infected by the Diebold virus, and cannot help but to tamper with election results. I believe that the software itself is designed to divine the political leanings of the company's executives, and alter the voting results accordingly.

This also explains the weird House and Senate results, as no matter how leftist the DVS bosses are, they like their Trump tax cuts too much to have them reversed by the unified legislative and executive branches the polls had predicted.

All this is so transparant even a bag of Deplorables can see it, and Trump, unlike those losers Gore and Kerry, is absolutely right to go golfing every day fight this electoral travesty in the most Rudyly way possible.

JPH Woland 2 hours ago

Somewhat ironic indeed that the color revolution is now coming home to the US. However given the amount of chaos the US is able to impose on the rest of the world I prefer Trump over a repeat of the Obama/Biden starting open and covert wars all over the globe. At least Trump never started any wars but only got tricked by the Pentagon/State Department in wrongful and misplaced "retaliations" which he then steadfastly refused to escalate into wars.

LgVt 7 hours ago

For those wondering what the actual source of this controversy is about--as opposed to the wild ad hominem tangent the author went on--sharp-eyed viewers on Election Night noted that literally between one minute and the next (from 10:07 to 10:08 PM CST) Trump's displayed vote total in Pennsylvania went from 1,690,589 to 1,670,631, while Biden's went from 1,252,537 to 1,272,495--a shift of exactly 19,958 votes in each direction.

From there, a blogger at Gateway Pundit (Yes. I said it. I'm also including the source they were using, so get over yourselves and do your own legwork--don't be a news snob, like the current top-rated comment on this post) analyzed what s/he claims is Dominion's Pennsylvania election data , from the New York Times (by way of Edison Research, which serves as a distributor for Dominion's election data to various media outlets). I have included the link here, for anyone who is interested in looking at the data for themselves.

S/he found the vote "switch" in question, and others besides--220,883 votes "switched" from Trump to Biden in Pennsylvania, as well as 941,248 "lost" votes--places where the total number of votes decreased during the counting. Analysis of other states using Dominion were claimed to have found similar results, though none so dramatic--the next-largest states with vote shifts were New Jersey (with 80,242) and Florida (21,422) neither of which were in doubt. The largest "lost vote" totals after PA were in Virginia (789,023) and Minnesota (195,650).

The total number of "lost votes" was roughly 2.7 million, which is where Trump gets his "deleted votes" claim from--the problem being that he erroneously assumes all the lost votes were for him, which I do not believe is backed up by the data.

The major problem with the story, assuming you accept the source, is that there is no analysis of whether votes were also shifted from Biden to Trump. It seems likely that there would be, which would make this merely an example of machine sloppiness rather than malicious vote-rigging.

However, even if the vote shifting did go both ways, you still have Dominion, for unknown reasons, shifting clumps of votes between the two candidates and deleting other clumps of votes altogether.

Even if there's a valid explanation for it--which there probably is--it's a very bad look. Dominion's people need to explain what their systems were doing, and why, ASAP.

disgustoo 6 hours ago

"Moreover, platforms like Twitter and WordPress would do well to consider that censorship of people discussing Dominion and its employees is likely to have the opposite effect that they think it will: Twitter bans, site removals, and wiping of bios from websites are only going to make Trump's hardcore supporters think Dominion has something to hide. You can't make disagreements go away by banning one side and pretending there is unanimity."

Word Press has now evicted ( https://theconservativetree... with short notice; who will be next?

JPH 6 hours ago • edited

Texas rejected Dominion because it was not secure:
https://www.sos.texas.gov/e...

So I guess that many states using Dominion have some explaining to do.

Sydney Powell has some explanation (and even RCP now covering this):
https://www.realclearpoliti...

Dominion was designed to manipulate elections.
https://www.clintonfoundati...

WilliamRD 4 hours ago • edited

This entire episode stinks to high heaven. In the early morning of November 4th Trump had a huge lead in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania. Michigan and Georgia. Instead of continuing to count votes Milwaukee, Detroit, Philly an Atlanta for some strange reason stopped counting. Atlanta told the media water pipe busted and flooded the counting area. Completely false. Republican poll watchers were kicked out and magically hundreds of thousands of votes were discovered for Biden

Of particular interest to me was something that Baris spotted as he compared former Vice President Joe Biden's performance with Hillary Clinton's in 2016. Baris noted that Clinton outperformed Biden in every U.S. city except for the following four: Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.

Baris wrote, "Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia."

https://bongino.com/pollste...

WilliamRD 4 hours ago

Democratic senators warned of potential 'vote switching' by Dominion voting machines prior to 2020 election

https://www.newsbreak.com/n...

HistoryProf WilliamRD 2 hours ago

If you dig into the actual source material for the article you posted, what you find is a rather unremarkable statement by Democratic senators that EVERY vendor of voting machines had potential risks that they should be aware of and guard against. The dishonest Washington Examiner, however, pulled out only Dominion.

WilliamRD HistoryProf an hour ago

That's strange. In Michigan for example a very red county that Trump carried big in 2016 strangely went Biden in 2020. Republican county officials investigated and found that over six thousand votes had been switched from Trump to Biden. They blamed it on a glitch with the software.

WilliamRD 3 hours ago

Republicans Have Good Reason Not To Trust The Election Results

https://thefederalist.com/2...

Nelson an hour ago

The only kind of machines that should be allowed are the "stupid" ones that can't do anything except count results from paper ballots. They're both cheaper and easier to audit.

Mario Diana an hour ago

It has to be almost 15 years now that computer security people have been crying for open-source software and hardware for electronic voting, and have been criticizing closed, proprietary systems as the greatest threat to our democracy. And, here we are. None of us can act surprised.

Lord Molloch an hour ago • edited

Preventing GOP observers which was done at the election count, and the recount, is alone enough, with a competent and fair judge, to win the election for Trump. Add to that the mail in fraud, 10's of thousands of people on the voter lists who have been verified as dead, off shore processing and data manipulation - its a shoe in. But lets not forget, even if all this fails, its GOP legislators who choose the electors, so Trump's return is practically certain. But lets assume a miracle happens and none of this take place, no results are returned, the EC is asked to vote, USC gives each state a vote, GOP controls most states - Trump is still returned. Its really is over, bar the shouting. Trump is just taunting his haters now, for fun, via tweets.

[Nov 16, 2020] Dominion also refuted allegations that its machines changed votes from Trump to Biden on Election Day and beyond

It is is in the intelligence agencies interest that voting infrastructure is electronic and vulnerable. There the source of their power.
Nov 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
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CosmoJoe , 3 hours ago

"Dominion also refuted allegations that its machines changed votes from Trump to Biden on Election Day and beyond."

What in the serious f(ck WOULD they say? "Yes, absolutely our machines switched votes to Biden."

[Nov 16, 2020] Once it becomes apparent that this scandal is busting wide open, expect a lot more "evidence" from rats jumping the corrupt ship - rather than being caught when the music stops.

Nov 16, 2020 | www.germanica.org
lay_arrow teutonicate 3 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell: "We're Getting Ready To Overturn Election Results In Multiple States"

Once it becomes apparent that this scandal is busting wide open, expect a lot more "evidence" from rats jumping the corrupt ship - rather than being caught when the music stops.

Powell already says that she has evidence coming at her "like a fire hose". I bet, there has to be a lot of rats out their looking for an exit!

www.germanica.org

[Nov 16, 2020] Senior DHS cybersecurity official Bryan Ware to step down

Nov 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Ophiuchus , 2 hours ago

https://www.cisa.gov/bryan-s-ware

Bryan S. Ware serves as the Assistant Director for Cybersecurity for the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). In this role, Ware leads CISA's mission of protecting and strengthening the nation's critical infrastructure against cyber threats.

https://www.cyberscoop.com/bryan-ware-cisa-dhs-resignation/

Senior DHS cybersecurity official Bryan Ware to step down

crudflow , 44 minutes ago

I willing to bet Ware is up to his eyeballs in this fraud. He is trying to cover it up, and he is running for the hills. Sounds pretty suspicious to me.....

[Nov 16, 2020] Sidney Powell with Eric Bolling on the accuracy of Dominion voting machines

Nov 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Billy the Poet , 3 hours ago

Sidney Powell Releases the Kraken on Sunday Morning Futures - She Has Proof of Fraud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINl15MPhuY

Sidney Powell with Eric Bolling on the accuracy of Dominion voting machines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNX1GpM8izs

Giuliani - Foreign Software That's Been Used To Steal Elections In Other Countries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k-lTPFLcR0

nmewn , 3 hours ago

The algorithm is documented here, which is what I believe she is talking about...

https://joannenova.com.au/2020/11/electronic-vote-fraud-equation-revealed-in-michigan-in-4-counties-138000-fake-votes-for-biden/

...as an aside, I'm willing to bet this will be memory holed very soon by Gawgle...however, the presentation has been copied and preserved for posterity.

Any takers? ;-)

SurfingUSA , 3 hours ago

If you haven't already read "Licensed to Lie" by Sidney Powell. She figured out all the wheels within wheels of both corporate fraud, those set up to take the fall for Enron / Andersen, and fed gov skullduggery starting with Andrew Weissmann, who connects dots between Enron & Mueller. This 2020 election is kind of cakewalk in comparison.

[Nov 16, 2020] Unraveling the Deep State Coup

Notable quotes:
"... evidence is being collected that will prove beyond reasonable doubt (i.e., the type of evidence required to obtain a criminal conviction) that the CIA had some sort of nefarious relationship with Dominion Software and that Dominion Software was being used abroad and in the United States to conduct voter fraud. ..."
"... I fully expect CIA officials to argue they had no idea that Dominion was engaged in such nefarious activity. Their denial carries as much weight as the claim by Captain Louis Renault in the iconic scene in Casablanca ..."
"... The coup attempt to dethrone Donald Trump continues. ..."
"... So why for 2020, suddenly the big push in the US to get everyone to vote electronically, after decades of failed practices elsewhere in the world. Purveyed by many of the same player foisted on the US election systems. ..."
"... This voting process was rejected elsewhere because it undermined trust in these country's election integrity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country ..."
"... I was involved in the early 2000's as a contractor in a project to create a system to allow DoD service personnel to vote digitally & replace the hard copy absentee ballots. After investing tens of millions of dollars & years, the DoD computer security folks said that there was no way that it could ever be assured that a digital voting system could not be hacked. They would not certify the security & integrity of a digital voting system & the project was scraped. ..."
Nov 16, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

When I saw this it did not make sense. Let me explain. I spent four years working at State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism (now it is the Bureau of Counter Terrorism). I was one of two officers who dealt directly with the FBI in the investigation of the terrorist bombing of Pan Am 103. I learned through this experience that US law enforcement cannot operate in other countries without the permission of those countries.

I also spent 22 years scripting terrorism exercises for U.S. military special operations. My job was to replicate State Department and Embassy communications that would occur during a terrorist crisis. So, I have a lot of experience in working real world with US law enforcement, US military and our Embassies in sorting out the issues that arise when the United States wants to pursue a law enforcement or military operation in a foreign country.

The U.S. Army did not conduct a raid in Germany on either Sctyl or Dominion offices or servers. They are foreign nationals and we must operate in accordance with German law. Moreover, the U.S. Army does not have law enforcement powers with respect to such entities. So what happened? I am reliably informed that a unit under the command of USEUCOM (i.e., United States European Command) did in fact conduct an operation to take control of computer servers. But these servers belong to the CIA, not Dominion or Sctyl. The U.S. military has full authority to do this because any CIA activity in the European theater is being conducted using military cover. In other words, CIA officers would be identified to the German government (and anyone else asking) as military employees or consultants.

Such an operation would have been carried out with U.S. law enforcement present to take custody of the evidence. That means that the evidence will be under the control of the Department of Justice through US Attorneys and can be used in court or other judicial proceedings.

This is not the first time that a military unit attached to EUCOM has compelled a CIA computer facility to hand over evidence. A dear friend of mine (a retired DEA officer) told me about an incident where he entered a CIA facility in Frankfurt backed up by the US Army to get info the CIA was withholding (this took place in the 1980s).

I also have confirmed what Jim Hoft reported the other night–the CIA's Gina Haspel was not informed in advance of this operation. Based on this fact, I think it is correct that action was taken in Germany on territory under U.S. control and that a CIA facility was targeted.

I also have learned that FBI Director Christopher Wray was excluded from this operation. Wray, more than Haspel, has been working aggressively to undermine and sabotage Donald Trump. This means that some other U.S. law enforcement agency (e.g., US Marshals, DEA, Secret Service, etc) had the lead in collecting the evidence.

Sidney Powell is a serious lawyer. She is not going to make a false claim. Period. She embodies honesty and integrity. Given her recent statements on Maria Bartoromo and Lou Dobbs and Eric Bolling, she clearly knows that evidence is being collected that will prove beyond reasonable doubt (i.e., the type of evidence required to obtain a criminal conviction) that the CIA had some sort of nefarious relationship with Dominion Software and that Dominion Software was being used abroad and in the United States to conduct voter fraud.

I fully expect CIA officials to argue they had no idea that Dominion was engaged in such nefarious activity. Their denial carries as much weight as the claim by Captain Louis Renault in the iconic scene in Casablanca:

Capt. Louis Renault: I am shocked, shocked that there is gambling going on in here .

Waiter: Sir here are your winnings

The coup attempt to dethrone Donald Trump continues.


eakens , 15 November 2020 at 11:48 PM

What are the odds that Soros' Tides foundation have offices in the same building as Dominion Voting Systems in Toronto?

Deap , 16 November 2020 at 12:28 AM

More about Dominion, Smartronics, Sequoia, UCSB Technology Security, state of California and Venezuala and a whole cast of other characters - foreign and domestic in this 2018 Jenny Cohn article: https://medium.com/@jennycohn1/updated-attachment-states-have-bought-voting-machines-from-vendors-controlled-and-funded-by-nation-6597e4dd3e70

Trust, but verify. I was just searching UCSB and Dominion, and this interesting article popped up.

Deap , 16 November 2020 at 01:25 AM

Germany, along with most other countries around the world prohibit or severely limit "electronic voting" Declared it was too vulnerable to fraud and hacking after trying this method - now paper ballots only.

So why for 2020, suddenly the big push in the US to get everyone to vote electronically, after decades of failed practices elsewhere in the world. Purveyed by many of the same player foisted on the US election systems.

This voting process was rejected elsewhere because it undermined trust in these country's election integrity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_by_country

We got sold a pig in a poke this year. Or a donkey's rear end.

walrus , 16 November 2020 at 02:40 AM

Treason.

LondonBob , 16 November 2020 at 05:17 AM

One of the financial markets commentators I follow, Peter Granduch, retweeted the following article and said a friend who used to be high up at DoJ said this article is broadly correct.

https://distributednews.com/474016.html

I thought of sharing this yesterday, but decided not, in light of this I think it is relevant.

Bill Hatch , 16 November 2020 at 05:46 AM

I was involved in the early 2000's as a contractor in a project to create a system to allow DoD service personnel to vote digitally & replace the hard copy absentee ballots. After investing tens of millions of dollars & years, the DoD computer security folks said that there was no way that it could ever be assured that a digital voting system could not be hacked. They would not certify the security & integrity of a digital voting system & the project was scraped.

Keith Harbaugh , 16 November 2020 at 07:05 AM

A number of videos from Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani that have been cited are collected in this YouTube playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZlQy6FlDBO0eaaFM_fIUKK5x7oXYDlWt

I will add videos to that playlist as appropriate.

Also, if you want a break from all this talk/talk/talk, here is a nice short (3 minute) mind-clearing piece from a 17C composer:

https://youtu.be/BmxvhBZkgFQ

For other worthy music from the same composer, Henry Purcell, see:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6WIWapSWYkcnwy7P1yn__z-hm5xLGFU8

U N Known , 16 November 2020 at 08:21 AM

Trump survived.

https://sputniknews.com/us-elections-2020/202011161081181430-cia-head-gina-haspel-should-be-fired-over-election-software-glitches-trump-lawyer-says/

I like the picture. Bid you farewell.
Tol

Fred , 16 November 2020 at 09:02 AM

Completely coincidental to your reporting is the de-platforming of The Conservative Treehouse, set for Wedenesday, due to the narrative there. Also coincidental is the ongoing targetted harrassment of Trump's lawyer's to get them to quit, a tactic harkening back to the '30s. If they were so certain Joe had won they would not be afraid of transparency.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/11/if-media-didnt-think-trump-could-win-it-wouldnt-be-daniel-greenfield/.

Also coincidental: allegations being floated that Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino's organization may have fabricated 300,000 ballots for Biden in Philly,
https://buffalochronicle.com/2020/11/14/exclusive-how-a-philly-mob-boss-stole-the-election-and-why-he-may-flip-on-joe-biden/

background on the mobster from a more reliable source, though it makes no mention of the ballot issue:
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-mobster-podcast-prison-20201029-fymnykjw3veaxopspz6tfrixci-story.html

From Rasmussen: "Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia in these big cities in swing states run by Democrats the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters."
https://twitter.com/rasmussen_poll/status/1327931164552802305
I'm sure we'll shortly be informed by all the usual suspects that this is Qanon level stuff here, nothing to see, nothing to report, now move along.....

Artemesia , 16 November 2020 at 10:26 AM

O/T
Increasingly I turn to SST first, for the information that, as my second source for information, Unz.com declares, offers ". . . Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media."

With this distinction: Unz is free-wheeling and as even its creator states, provides an outlet for "bizarre and insane" commentary, whereas SST is hosted and moderated by persons who have had education, experience and responsibilities at the highest levels of influence at the national international levels.

Hats off to Col. Lang and those contributors to whom SST provides a platform.

BillWade , 16 November 2020 at 10:27 AM

I think it's very beneficial that the MAGA folks were able to get a million people into DC on Saturday.

J , 16 November 2020 at 11:05 AM

Larry,

So what do you make of the meetings that Haspel had with Sen. McConnell, and Senate Intel Members last Tuesday? Did Haspel's meetings occur right after the seizures in Germany or not?

Do you know the date that the seizures occurred? Before or after last Tuesday? Germany is also 6 hrs ahead of D.C..

TV , 16 November 2020 at 11:14 AM

Unhinged citizen:
The GOP has no more use for Trump than the Democrat-media party does.
They are all parasites in the same swamp.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that McConnell voted for Biden.
It's not Dem vs. Republican, hasn't been for a long time.
It's fast becoming America vs. the swamp (and their allies in various state outposts - like Governor "hairdo" in California and the vicious little bridge troll in NY.)

Polish Janitor , 16 November 2020 at 11:19 AM

I am getting the feeling that Donald Trump is saving the best for the last, i.e. pulling the rug out from under the IC. Another indication for me has been Sidney Powell and her insistence on seeing this whole election fraud incident through. Judging from her record as a reputable Texas attorney with a ton of success and the severity of this ongoing situation, I don't believe she would put her reputation and career in jeopardy for something that is not serious and is not going to be a major revelation.

I also would like to applaud Trump for finally appointing Col. Doug McGregor (a true non-interventionist) to the DoD as an advisor and committing to what he had promised back in '16, i.e. pulling troops out of the ME and putting a stop to endless wars of nation-building there.

TV , 16 November 2020 at 11:19 AM

Deap:
It's a no lose for the Democrats.
If they couldn't somehow cheat to a win using computerized voting, then they scream "voter suppression."
If they do cheat their way in (as they did), then computerized voting is fine and dandy and the model for future elections.

Leith , 16 November 2020 at 12:03 PM

It was the Lincoln Project, a Republican PAC against Trump, that doxed Jones Day lawyers and subtly threatened them with future loss of business. They were joined by other Republicans such as the 43 Alumni for Biden and REPAIR.

Skinny Joey used to be Trump's fixer in Atlantic City.

Rasmussen also predicted that 33% of black voters would vote for Trump. He got what? Maybe eight percent? All men, no black church ladies.

Deap , 16 November 2020 at 12:06 PM

RE: "Voter suppression" is a non-argument.

Every illegally cast vote suppresses the legal vote cast by another voter. Insufficient risk to benefit ratio to allow imposition any system as subject to fraud as "electronic voting" has proven to be world wide.

james , 16 November 2020 at 12:23 PM

ditto Artemesia's comment...

Deap , 16 November 2020 at 12:37 PM

Lieth, cite your source for black vote totals - AP projections, exit polls, or certified state vote counts. Numbers are all over the place right now, or else you are intentionally running a disinformation campaign.

All of the above state significant increases in the black vote, including what you dismissively label "black church ladies" - black women Trump vote doubled over 2016. Trump definitely broadened the diversity the GOP tent - kudos to him for that alone, and to Blexit efforts which were gaining momentum as well, for all the right reasons.

Deap , 16 November 2020 at 01:15 PM

The story about the US election computer server raid in German gains traction in the wider media - but obvious details still missing: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/donald_trump_the_loneliest_man_on_the_planet.html

We have your back, President Trump.

[Nov 16, 2020] Michigan certified vote watchers testimony that they witness the 3:30 AM NOV 4th ballot dump when Michigan shut down.

Nov 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


xxx 1 hour ago (Edited)

Michigan certified vote watchers testimony that they witness the 3:30 AM NOV 4th ballot dump when Michigan shut down.

https://youtu.be/oF12gZ_mkHQ

They say there are over 20 Vote watchers who have testified.

This all happened in Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta and Phoenix.

[Nov 16, 2020] The Lie Sheet Known as the NY Times Claims "No Election Fraud" by Paul Craig Roberts

Nov 16, 2020 | www.paulcraigroberts.org

Election Data Team finds that in Georgia 17,877 people voted by mail who had previously filed National Change of Address forms with the US Post Office that they had changed their state of residence from Georgia. That number alone is more than Biden's margin of victory.

So far the team has found out of state move forms filed by 7,426 people who nevertheless were voted in Pennsylvania, 6,254 in Wisconsin, 5,145 in Nevada, 5,084 in Arizona, and 1,688 in Michigan. Obviously, many people filed false out-of-state address changes or we have a clear picture of organized vote fraud.

The team already has a list of 1,250,000 voters with anomalies in the 6 contested states.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/election-data-team-to-call-1-25-million-voters-over-anomalies-in-6-contested-states_3578114.html

There are numerous reports, such as this one, from poll watchers who were intentionally prevented from watching. Many have had the courage to go public:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/poll-watchers-say-they-were-monitored-forced-to-leave-nevada-election-center_3578329.html

The presstitutes steadfastly refuse to investigate any whistleblower's report and keep repeating "no evidence of fraud." Social media takes down whistleblower's reports. This intense censorship itself indicates that the election was stolen and that those involved in the theft intend to keep the evidence of the theft suppressed:

http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/11/stunning-testimony-michigan-election.html

If the election was not stolen, investigation would bear that out, so why suppress information that should be investigated?

THE HAMMER & SCORECARD were used by the Democrats to alter votes: In February 2009, the Obama administration commandeered a powerful supercomputer system known as THE HAMMER. THE HAMMER includes an exploit application known as SCORECARD that is capable of hacking into elections and stealing the vote, according to CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who designed and built THE HAMMER.

https://theamericanreport.org/2020/11/05/lt-gen-thomas-mcinerney-usaf-ret-and-the-american-reports-mary-fanning-discuss-scorecard-and-the-hammer-election-hack-on-worldview-weekend-with-brannon-howse/

Sidney Powell, former federal prosecutor, reports that election theft technology used by US intelligence in foreign countries was used against Trump. Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, says state legislatures in the vote fraud states have the power to correct the situation as does Congress which can refuse to accept an uncorrected corrupted process.

https://phibetaiota.net/2020/11/video-lou-dobbs-with-sidney-powell-tom-fitton-836-plus-supporting-article-on-hammer-scorecard/

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[Nov 16, 2020] The Most Secure Election in US History by Stephen Lendman

Absence of 24x7 secure video recoding is an invitation to fraud on local level. Add to this electronic fraud based on the use of voting machines and "Houston we have a problem"
Nov 14, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

Election 2020 is clear testimony to how fantasy US democracy works -- ordinary Americans with no say over how the nation is run and by whom.

It's also more evidence of dominant media mass deception, supporting election fraud over a free, fair and open process.

Since last weekend, a Great Lakes Justice Center lawsuit filed in Michigan claims that Detroit election officials allowed "tens of thousands" of fraudulent ballots to be added to Biden/Harris' vote count, along with other Wayne County irregularities.

Based on the lawsuit, they included "eyewitness accounts and direct evidence" that "approximately 40,000" unsecured, irregular ballots arrived in vehicles with out-of-state license plates in Detroit.

The vote tally went entirely for Biden/Harris and other Dems on the ballot.

The lawsuit also alleges that after GOP challengers discovered evidence of fraud, they were locked out of the counting room -- after which tens of thousands more ballots were counted.

County election officials also "allowed ballots to be duplicated by hand without allowing poll challengers to check if the duplication was accurate," according to the lawsuit.

There's more about dubious practices in Detroit that smacks of election fraud.

On Wednesday, GOP attorney generals in 10 states filed an amicus brief with the US Supreme Court -- challenging the illegality of counting late mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania, ignoring state laws banning the practice.

According to Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter "actions taken by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court (on this issue) are one of the most breathtaking abuses of judicial authority that I've seen in my four-plus years as attorney general."

On Monday, US Attorney General William Barr authorized DOJ officials to investigate alleged election irregularities.

At this time, results of Election 2020 are undecided. Joe Biden is NOT president-elect until these issues are settled and the election process is officially completed.

According to Trump campaign attorney Sidney Powell , significant statistical evidence of improper ballot counting hasn't yet been revealed, adding:

Many states breached their own elections laws, including "pallets of ballots" entering through "the back door" of counting centers in the middle of the night.

"There is tons of evidence that hundreds of thousands of ballots are going to have to be discarded and they're all for Biden."

Dominion Voting Systems software used in various states swapped, padded, and in other ways altered vote tallies, said Powell.

"There is a substantial problem with the Dominion system," Powell stressed. "We are reviewing all of that and connecting the dots."

"There are stacks of evidence and testimony from any number of witnesses – I've lost count of how many they have (because) more pour in every day."

According to Nevada Attorney General Adam Laxalt , "(i)t's important to understand first and foremost how insecure this system is," adding:

"We have over 600,000 mail-in ballots that have been counted."

"Those are votes that are official in our system."

"We also know that we have unclean rolls – ballots that have been mailed to dead people, to people who have moved out of state, and people that got a dozen ballots in their homes, etc."

At most, signature verification of mail-in ballots was 40%, he said. Most Nevada mail-in ballots are unverified.

Trump may lead Biden/Harris in the state instead of the other way around as reported by major media.

According to Project Veritas, "an anonymous (Pennsylvania) USPS whistleblower claims t hat higher-ups ordered postal workers to discard pro-Trump and pro-Republican mail, and only deliver pro-Biden mail from now on," adding:

"This is the third Pennsylvania USPS insider to blow the whistle on election malfeasance in the last week."

"There is something going on with USPS and we must get to the bottom of it immediately," Project Veritas head James O'Keefe said, stressing:

"It's very concerning that every USPS whistleblower coming forward is telling stories that put our election integrity in serious doubt."

Election fraud occurred many times throughout US history at the federal, state and local levels.

Election 2020 may one day be remembered as one of the most brazen examples.

Election 2020 the "most secure" in US history? Make your own judgment.

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[Nov 16, 2020] Trump Campaign Files Suit, Urges Judge to Block Pennsylvania From Certifying Election Results

Nov 16, 2020 | www.theepochtimes.com

Trump Campaign Files Suit, Urges Judge to Block Pennsylvania From Certifying Election Results BY JACK PHILLIPS November 15, 2020 Updated: November 15, 2020 Print

The Trump campaign on Nov. 15 called on a judge in Pennsylvania to block the state from certifying Democratic nominee Joe Biden as the winner of the election , saying there's evidence that voters were allowed to "cure" their ballots.

"Unless Bush v. Gore was much ado about nothing, presidential candidates of course have an interest in having lawful votes for them counted and unlawful votes for their opponent invalidated," the filing said . "That's particularly true in Pennsylvania, one of a few swing states where recounts or other litigation is ongoing and where the vote margin is close."

Campaign lawyer Linda Kerns made the filing in a federal court. It named about six counties in the Keystone State, alleging that those county officials illegally allowed voters to use deficient ballots to cast replacement absentee mail-in ballots ahead of the Nov. 3 election or provisional ballots cast on Election Day to "cure" errors.

Bloomberg News first reported on the suit on Nov. 15.

The campaign is attempting to block the state from certifying nearly 700,000 mail-in votes from the most populous counties, including Pittsburgh and Philadelphia -- which lean heavily Democratic.

A hearing on the motion to dismiss the lawsuit is slated for Nov. 17. A separate evidentiary hearing is scheduled for Nov. 19, and U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann -- an appointee of former President Barack Obama -- will decide the case.

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Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar's office didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. Bloomberg reported that it was unable to obtain a comment from Democratic Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro's office.

In a previous statement regarding another one of Trump's lawsuits, Boockvar denied there were any irregularities.

"The voters of Pennsylvania have spoken," Boockvar's lawyers wrote. "The Court should deny Plaintiffs' desperate and unfounded attempt to interfere" with the vote-counting process, they claimed.

The lawsuit that was filed Nov. 15 made reference to Lancaster County and several others, saying the county was an example of how an election should be carried out.

"Lancaster, York, Westmoreland, and Berks Counties, for example, did not contact voters who submitted defective ballots or give them an opportunity to cure. They simply followed the law and treated these ballots as invalid and refused to count them," the suit reads. Those four counties went for Trump over Biden.

"Because the counties that followed state law and did not provide a cure process are heavily Republican (and counties that violated state law and did provide a cure process are heavily Democratic), Defendants' conduct harmed the Trump Campaign. It deprived the President of lawful votes and awarded his opponent with unlawful votes."

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A plaintiff in the case, John Henry, described as a voter, said his defective vote was considered different than that of voters in other counties. He alleged that it violated the U.S. Constitution's Equal Protection Clause.

"In other words, Henry cast a defective ballot that was not counted, but another Pennsylvania voter in another county could cast the same defective ballot and have his vote counted -- solely based on place of residence," the campaign said. "The Defendant counties' insistence upon counting illegal ballots disparately favored Democratic-leaning counties over Republican-leaning counties."

The suit also alleged that poll watchers and canvass representatives were treated unfairly or were not allowed to be present "when the required declarations on envelopes containing official absentee and mail-in ballots are reviewed for sufficiency, when the ballot envelopes are opened, and when such ballots are counted and recorded."

In some areas, it was "physically impossible" to view ballots or envelopes, the campaign said.

Trump's campaign then called on the judge to issue an emergency order to prohibit defendants from certifying the results of the election over the irregularities and discrepancies.

The suit added, "Plaintiffs seek an emergency order prohibiting defendants from certifying the results of the General Election. In the alternative, Plaintiffs seek an emergency order prohibiting Defendants from certifying any results from the General Election that included the tabulation of absentee and mail-in ballots which do not comply with the Election Code, including, without limitation, the tabulation of absentee and mail-in ballots Trump Campaign's watchers were prevented from observing or based on the tabulation of invalidly cast absentee and mail-in ballots."

All 67 counties in Pennsylvania have to certify their election results by Nov. 23. Last week, Boockvar said she won't order a recount.

The lawsuit is part of the case Donald J. Trump For President Inc. v. Boockvar, 4:20-cv-02078, U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania (Williamsport).

[Nov 16, 2020] The American Coup d' tat Against President Donald Trump- - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Notable quotes:
"... If Biden steals this election, it will be Obama 2.0. If Biden's mental health declines, Vice-President-Elect Kamala Harris, one of the most unpopular democrats in modern history will be the President at least for the short term. The question is who will be her vice-president? ..."
"... "only votes for Biden and no down-ballot selections, which she regarded as suspicious" ..."
"... New York Post article ..."
"... "two pieces of software called Hammer and Scorecard were used to flip votes from Trump to Biden in some pre-election voting ballots." ..."
"... "declaring that trespassers will be removed from the White House." ..."
"... Timothy Alexander Guzman writes on his blog site, Silent Crow News, where this article was originally published. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research. ..."
Nov 16, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

If Biden steals this election, it will be Obama 2.0. If Biden's mental health declines, Vice-President-Elect Kamala Harris, one of the most unpopular democrats in modern history will be the President at least for the short term. The question is who will be her vice-president?

Both of the US political parties, the Democrats and the Republicans are a one-party system controlled by special interests no matter who is president .

It's fair to say that Trump's foreign policy was heading towards a dangerous path to a world war as I have written about in the past.

Many of Trump's foreign policies are similar to past administrations whether they were Democrats and Republican, the only difference that I can say is that he did not start any new wars, he continued ongoing wars that was launched by his predecessors.

Trump's domestic policies are mixed at best with an economy built on debt through its Federal Reserve's printing press that can never be repaid jeopardizing the US economy and it's US dollar-based hegemony which are already in a steady decline. However, on a good note about the Trump presidency is that he secured America's 2nd amendment rights (an important right to have during uncertain times), expanded school choice for families and he cut taxes for individuals' and small businesses. Despite a handful of successes on the domestic front, his foreign policy is dangerous for world peace . However, it's fair to say Trump is a different type of politician, one who openly expressed how he felt about certain people in politics or in Hollywood and the mainstream-media (MSM) hated all of it, they despised Trump. The Democratic party has been planning this scenario the day after Hillary Clinton lost the elections to Donald Trump in 2016 with the Russia-Gate Hoax, allegations of sexual assaults, racism and other anti-Trump shenanigans to remove the President. The Democrats were going to steal the 2020 elections no matter what with help from the MSM. If the Supreme court reverses Biden's election win to a loss, giving Trump the victory by January 20th,violence will erupt on US streets leading to a civil war among the American people, and that is certain.

Continuity Follows All US Elections. Despite Evidence, Trump's Legal Challenges are Likely to Fail

Stolen Elections and Biden's Voter Fraud Organization

This election was rigged by the Democratic party, plain and simple. The so-called "President-Elect" Joe Biden has admitted unconsciously that they put together an extensive "voter fraud" organization in U.S. history:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/WGRnhBmHYN0

One of Trump's lawyers fighting the election fraud, Sidney Powell, said that 450,000 ballots was found in several key states with "only votes for Biden and no down-ballot selections, which she regarded as suspicious" according to a recent New York Post article who also said that Powell claimed that "two pieces of software called Hammer and Scorecard were used to flip votes from Trump to Biden in some pre-election voting ballots."

In Michigan, the vote had increased at one point to over 130,000 votes for Biden in the middle of the night, without a single new vote for Trump while most people were asleep:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wLRITa1jHHw

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3P36qnU-Ozc

In Pennsylvania, former New York City Mayor and Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani made a press statement on the fact that dead people were voting in Philadelphia:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/__fR2H_Bsu4

There will be many more whistleblowers, pollsters that were denied the access to observe the vote count and average voters who will be exposing Biden's election as a fraud in the coming days, weeks and months. This is just the beginning.

Mainstream Media Censorship In Your Face

This is perhaps the most in your face evidence that media censorship has been legitimized against President Trump. The MSM now is fact-checking Trump in real-time claiming that he is stating false-facts:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/F74MfjZWjI4

A Coming American Coup D'état?

The Biden regime had issued a warning to President Donald Trump "declaring that trespassers will be removed from the White House." Former sportscaster Keith Olbermann has even called for a coup against President Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q_7f-DfmNNQ

The 2020 election was stolen from Trump, no doubt about that,

However, Trump and his administration knew that the Democrats were going to commit fraud through mail-in ballots.

The US just became a banana republic, a dictatorship with Orwellian overtones that will ensure a Democratic and the Neocon Republican establishment that will move forward with an American-style scientific based-dictatorship.

Biden has prematurely announced a Covid-19 task force that will include planned lockdowns, vaccine mandates and mandatory facemasks due to an increase in Covid-19 cases. The US is surely heading towards what George Orwell has warned the world about. Make no mistake about it, there will be a resistance, a human resistance that will ultimately prevail, and that I can say with certainty.

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[Nov 16, 2020] EXCLUSIVE- How a Philly mob boss stole the election -- and why he may flip on Joe Biden - The Buffalo Chronicle

Highly recommended!
It's alleged that Skinny Joey Merlino manufactured more than 300,000 ballots for Joe Biden, and then transported them in nondescript cardboard boxes to a backroom at the Philadelphia Convention Center. From there, the ballots were scanned into ballot boxes and were then co-located with actual election ballots being prepared for processing, according to an associate who was made familar with the operation.
Nov 16, 2020 | buffalochronicle.com

The innermost circles of the American mafia are abuzz. The Boss of the Philly mob -- 'Skinny Joey' Merlino -- is taking a victory strut, hobnobbing around the highest echelons of old-time mafia folk, mostly in Florida, describing what may have been the heist of the century: the 2020 presidential election.

The feat is drawing praise from far-flung corners of the Italian American business community, which sees the thanks of a grateful administration as key to the revival of the community's political influence.

But an associate says that Merlino might just be willing to flip on Joe Biden and the Pennsylvania political operatives who ordered up some 300,000 election ballots marked for Biden. The source alleges that Merlino and a lean team of associates manufactured those ballots at a rate of $10 per ballot -- a whopping $3 million for three days of work. They were then packaged into non-descript cardboard boxes and dropped off outside the Philadelphia Convention Center.

Sources who spoke to The Chronicle on the condition of anonymity say that Merlino picked up those ballots from two private households where a trusted handful of associates were busily marking ballots with Sharpie markers. They were paid more than $1,000 per hour, often producing thousands of ballots every hour for more than 60 nearly-consecutive hours.

The ballots were purchased in cash.

It's thought that Democratic Party operatives working inside Philadelphia's election office provided Merlino with crates of raw ballots just hours before polls closed on election night, which he transported to two private households in South Philadelphia. By 10 p.m. that night Merlino's operation was already generating more than 3,000 ballots per hour, which quickly scaled to more than 6,000 ballots per hour before midnight.

But now, Merlino might just be willing to flip on Biden -- in primetime Congressional testimony -- if President Donald J. Trump is willing to issue the longtime mobster a full expungement of his decades-long criminal record. And, of course, Merlino wants to be pardoned for the election fraud itself and any crimes to which he may incriminate himself during his testimony.

"He wants a clean record. He wants to fish and hunt on federal lands. He'd really like a job with the National Parks Service. You need a clean record to get those things," explains one confidant. "But most of all he wants the thanks of a grateful nation for coming forward." TheStoneOfSisyphus says: NOVEMBER 15, 2020 AT 4:34 AM

Biden has had mob ties since the 70's. In fact, if it wasn't for the mob, Biden would have lost in 1972.

[Nov 16, 2020] Former Michigan Secretary of State Calls for Audit on Election Results in Voter Fraud Lawsuit

Nov 16, 2020 | www.theepochtimes.com

Former Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson said the election fraud allegations made in a recent lawsuit would warrant an independent audit to ensure the accuracy and integrity of the election, according to a sworn affidavit.

Johnson, who is currently a Republican state senator, attested in an affidavit filed on Wednesday that she believes "court intervention" was necessary after reviewing allegations of election fraud detailed in a lawsuit filed earlier this week.

That lawsuit alleges election officials allowed various fraudulent processing of votes, including telling poll workers to backdate ballots, not verify signatures on absentee ballots, to ignore signature mismatches, and to push through ballots despite questionable validity.

"The allegations and issues raised by Plaintiffs are very concerning to me and, in my opinion, require court intervention," Johnson said in her sworn affidavit ( pdf ).

"In particular, I am concerned about the illegal activity alleged by Plaintiffs regarding voter coaching at polling places, election staff being instructed not to request photo identification or an affidavit from persons coming to vote, and Mr. [Zachary] Larsen's allegation that ballots were being assigned to random persons on the voter list," she said.

Johnson, who served as Michigan's Secretary of State from Jan. 1, 2011, to Jan. 1, 2019, added that she believes it would be proper for the court to order an independent audit on the election results.

The lawsuit includes sworn affidavits from several witnesses detailing instances of alleged election fraud . Among the witnesses is Jessy Jacob, a City of Detroit election worker, who said that she was instructed to backdate mail ballots and not to look for any deficiencies with the ballots. She also claimed she was told not to ask for identification when voters arrived to vote in person.

"On November 4, 2020, I was instructed to improperly pre-date the absentee ballots receive date that were not in the [Qualified Voter File (QVF)] as if they had been received on or before November 3, 2020. I was told to alter the information in the QVF to falsely show that the absentee ballots had been received in time to be valid. I estimate that this was done to thousands of ballots," Jacob stated in her affidavit.

Jacob also alleged that she witnessed election workers coaching or encouraging voters to vote for Democratic nominee Joe Biden and the Democratic Party.

"I directly observed, on a daily basis, City of Detroit election workers and employees coaching and trying to coach voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. I witnessed these workers and employees encouraging voters to do a straight Democrat ballot. I witnessed these election workers and employees going over to the voting booths with voters in order to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote," she attested.

Another witness, Andrew Sitto, said in his affidavit that he witnessed tens of thousands of unsealed, unsecured ballots arriving in vehicles with out-of-state license plates in Michigan's Wayne County at 4:30 a.m. on the morning after Election Day.

"At approximately 4:30 a.m., tens of thousands of ballots were brought in and placed on eight long tables. Unlike the other ballots, these boxes were brought in from the rear of the room," Sitto said. "The same procedure was performed on the ballots that arrived at approximately 4:30 a.m., but I specifically noticed that every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden."

"While counting these new ballots, I heard counters say at least five or six times that all five or six ballots were for Joe Biden. All ballots sampled that I heard and observed were for Joe Biden," he added.

Sitto said the election official subsequently blocked the windows of the room he was in with cardboard and refused to let him reenter after he left for a break.

The lawsuit is brought by two poll challengers -- Cheryl Costantino and Edward McCall. Their lawyer, David Kallman, senior counsel of Great Lakes Justice Center, during a Wednesday hearing told the judge from the Circuit Court for the County of Wayne that voters are "entitled to [an] audit" of the results of an election under a constitutional amendment of Michigan's Constitution .

Meanwhile, lawyers for the City of Detroit and election officials argued that the case was "not ripe for adjudication" because there is no remedy at law until the votes have been certified.

"The courts are not supposed to get involved in the middle of an election, in the middle of a count," David Fink, a lawyer for the City of Detroit, told the judge .

He said the plaintiffs were asking the court to read the audit requirement under the state constitution as an "open-ended opportunity" for the court to order defendants to conduct an audit.

"But the court doesn't have to do that," Fink said while pointing out that the constitution only allows audits that are prescribed by law.

Fink said the only situation when that can occur, citing another statutory provision, is after the election when initiated by the Secretary of State.

In response, Kallman told the judge that "you can't have an audit if the results are certified."

"That's the point because again the [defendants] are going to be arguing that the only remedy is a recount at that point," Kallman said. "That's why this is so critical."

The judge said that he will issue a ruling on the motion by noon on Friday.

This case is cited Cheryl A. Costantino and Edward P. McCall, Jr. v. City of Detroit (20-014780-AW).

Zachary Stieber and Ivan Pentchoukov contributed to this report.

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[Nov 16, 2020] 2020 Election Security - C-SPAN.org

Looks how they all bypass the issue of Windows security. Replace in their discussion Russian hackers with CIA and NSA and you get some insights.
Notable quotes:
"... Important presentation ..."
Jan 09, 2020 | www.c-span.org

2020 Election Security

Voting system vendors, local election officials and computer science professors testified on 2020 election security before the House Administration Committee. Among the witnesses were Election Systems and Software CEO Tom Burt and U.S. Election Assistance Commissioner Donald Palmer. Election vendor CEOs told lawmakers they had not seen any evidence of election system tampering. Other topics discussed included election infrastructure and supply chain security, voting equipment testing and election system modernization efforts.

[Nov 15, 2020] False reports claim election servers were seized in Germany

Allegations are probably false as US military has no jurisdiction to operate this way in Germany, but they really put this shady company and its role in 2020 elections in the spotlight
The real questions are: why Spanish company was involved at all. Is this this company a front for CIA, or MI6? Why the US lawmakers agreed to such a huge risk as electronic infrastructure the US national elections, essentially giving intelligence services full control over vote counting? Why bribed key lawmakers? Was neoliberal MSM hysteria that Russian hacked the US election system a project?
Nov 15, 2020 | apnews.com

CLAIM: The U.S. Army raided the Frankfurt office of the Spanish election software company Scytl to seize servers that had evidence of voting irregularities in the Nov. 3 U.S. election.

AP'S ASSESSMENT: False. Both the Army and Scytl told The Associated Press the claim is not true. Furthermore, Scytl does not have offices or servers in Frankfurt, Germany.

THE FACTS: Social media users Saturday were sharing reports published by conservative websites claiming servers that would reveal wrongdoing in the U.S. election had been confiscated by U.S. military forces in Germany. Most posts said the servers belong to the software company Scytl, which is based in Barcelona, and some suggested the servers housed information from Dominion Voting Systems.

The false claims followed a Zoom call this week that featured Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert, of Texas, suggesting that "U.S. Army forces" had seized servers from a Frankfurt office of the software company Scytl.

In his remarks, which were widely shared on social media, Gohmert acknowledged that the information about the alleged raid only came from a "German tweet in German," and had said, "I don't know the truth."

The Associated Press reached out to Gohmert's spokesperson but did not hear back.

In his recorded remarks, Gohmert said he had heard from "former intel people" that Scytl maintained data that could be "gleaned" to prove Republican votes had been changed to Democrat in the Nov. 3 election.

But, according to the company, Scytl does not tally votes. Nor is there credible evidence Republican votes were changed to Democratic votes in the election.

George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign adviser who pleaded guilty in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe, tweeted on Friday afternoon: "Breaking: Congressman Louie Ghomert has stated that The U.S. Army has seized servers for Dominion in Germany."

When asked by The Associated Press if the Army had engaged in an operation to recover servers in Germany, an Army spokesperson responded Saturday, "Those allegations are false."

Scytl also refuted the claim. As the false conspiracy spread online, the company released a statement Friday titled, "Fact Checking Regarding US Elections: Debunking Fake News."

In the statement Scytl said: "We do not have servers or offices in Frankfurt" and "The US army has not seized anything from Scytl in Barcelona, Frankfurt or anywhere else." It also says Scytl does not "tabulate, tally or count votes in the US."

Jonathan Brill, the president and general manager for Scytl's U.S. division told the AP, "Scytl products sold to US customers are fully housed in the US, utilizing Amazon Web Services and have never been housed in Germany."

The company provided four election-related products to city, county and state clients for the Nov. 3 U.S. election, including an interface to train election workers, online tools to educate voters, an online platform for voters to request absentee ballots and an online platform to display real-time election results tabulated by local election officials.

Scytl and Dominion do not have ties to one another, according to statements from both companies.

"There is no truth whatsoever to the claims," a Dominion spokesperson wrote in an email when asked if the company stored data on servers in Germany and if it was aware of a U.S. military operation to seize those servers.

The claim is the latest in a series of false information that has circulated about Dominion Voting Systems since the election, including the meritless theory that the company's voting machines deleted or switched Trump votes.

There is no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election. In fact, election officials from both political parties have stated publicly that the election went well and international observers confirmed there were no serious irregularities.

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This is part of The Associated Press' ongoing effort to fact-check misinformation that is shared widely online, including work with Facebook to identify and reduce the circulation of false stories on the platform.

Here's more information on Facebook's fact-checking program: https://www.facebook.com/help/1952307158131536

[Nov 15, 2020] RUMOR - US Military Raided Scytl Servers In Germany For Evidence After Vote Switching Scandal - GreatGameIndia

Again, while the post contain valuable information about Scytl, please understand that this is a rumor. I no way US military are allowed to operate this way in Germany. This would be a diplomatic scandal. George Papadopoulos twit can well be a fake.
Nov 15, 2020 | greatgameindia.com

According to intelligence sources US Military raided voting machine company Scytl servers in Germany for evidence of manipulation in 2020 US Elections after it was exposed in vote switching scandal by GreatGameIndia . Scytl has a long history of election fraud in various nations including injecting backdoors in its election software. The issue has prompted experts to question why the sensitive job of counting votes was outsourced to a foreign company? How could a bankrupted Spanish company Scytl count American votes in Spain ? George Papadopoulos @GeorgePapa19 · Nov 13 Breaking: Congressman Louie Ghomert has stated that The U.S. Army has seized servers for Dominion in Germany.

According to Congressman Louie Gohmert, Texas there is "compelling evidence" of vote switching in the 2020 presidential election compiled by the Spanish electronic voting machine company Scytl.

The Texas lawmaker said in an interview with Newsmax TV that US military forces seized the company's server in Frankfurt, Germany. Gohmert said there are some who believe it's U.S. intelligence "that manipulated all this" to cover themselves.

In a Facebook conference call, Gohmert elaborated that he received the information Sunday from "some of our former intel people that there was extremely compelling evidence that could be gleaned from Scytl," the Barcelona company that was "responsible for aggregating all the information from all the machines."

[Nov 15, 2020] Is Scytl connected to CIA

Nov 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

Lee , says: November 14, 2020 at 10:31 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago

@anon

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Ha. Gomert goes there. Scytl is a CIA proprietary.

https://greatgameindia.com/us-military-raided-scytl-germany/

[Nov 15, 2020] Las Vegas Columnist Ran A Test And County Officials Accepted Fake Signatures On 8 Different Ballots -

Nov 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Las Vegas Columnist Ran A Test And County Officials Accepted Fake Signatures On 8 Different Ballots by Tyler Durden Sat, 11/14/2020 - 08:33 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Victor Joecks via The Las Vegas Review Journal,

Clark County election officials accepted my signature on eight ballot return envelopes during the general election. It's more evidence that signature verification is a flawed security measure.

For months, election officials have told Nevadans not to worry about ballots piling up in apartment trash cans or sent to wrong addresses.

"Discarded mail ballots cannot just be picked up and voted by anyone," a fact sheet from the secretary of state's office says .

"All mail ballots must be signed on the ballot return envelope. This signature is used to authenticate the voter and confirm that it was actually the voter and not another person who returned the mail ballot."

I wanted to test that claim by simulating what might happen if someone returned ballots that didn't belong to him or her. Plenty of people had this opportunity. Billy Geurin, a 10-year Las Vegas resident, found five loose ballots in his apartment mailroom . A reader emailed me a picture of a pile of mail on the side of the road, which included loose ballots. There are numerous pictures of similar examples on social media .

Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They then copied my version of their name onto their ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary to ensure no laws were broken.

On Monday, I asked Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria about this scenario. If ballots signed by someone else "came through, we would still have the signature match to rely on for identity," he said. Asked if he was confident the safeguard would identify those ballots, he said, "I'm confident that the process has been working throughout this process."

He was wrong. Eight of the nine ballots went through. In other words, signature verification had an 89 percent failure rate in catching mismatched signatures.

This could explain how a ballot "signed" by Rosemarie Hartle, who died in 2017, made it through signature verification, as reported by 8 News Now. It could explain how Jill Stokke, a longtime Las Vegas resident, was told the signature on her ballot matched, even though she said she never received it .

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County officials aren't working proactively to determine whether unscrupulous actors abused this vulnerability in a widespread fashion. Gloria's office doesn't "have an investigatory team." He said his office catches fraudulent votes "when they're reported to us." So if a criminal doesn't admit he committed voter fraud, Clark County is unlikely to find out about it. Willful ignorance isn't an election security strategy.

Leave aside the presidential race. Fewer than 200 votes separate the leading candidates in Senate District 5. In 2018, state Sen. Keith Pickard won his race by 24 votes . Even small amounts of fraud can swing results.

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It's unclear how much voter fraud took place in Nevada. But it's clear signature verification isn't the fail-safe security check elections officials made it out to be.

[Nov 15, 2020] Wisconsin Clerks May Have Unlawfully Altered Thousands of Absentee Ballots - News-Talk 1130 WISN - Dan O'Donnell

Nov 15, 2020 | newstalk1130.iheart.com

County and municipal clerks and poll workers across Wisconsin may have unlawfully altered witness statements on thousands of mail-in ballots across the state, "The Dan O'Donnell Show" has learned.

Wisconsin Statute 6.86 provides that an absentee ballot must be signed by a witness, who is also required to list his or her address. If a witness address is not listed, then the ballot is considered invalid and must be returned to the voter to have the witness correct.

Instead, multiple sources tell "The Dan O'Donnell Show," municipal clerks and vote counters across the state simply filled out witness signatures themselves. Acting on false and unlawful advice from the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC), these clerks may have inadvertently invalidated thousands of absentee votes.

"The statute is very, very clear," said retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who worked as a poll watcher in Milwaukee on Election Day. "If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it's not valid. That ballot is not valid."

The WEC sent uniform instructions to voters with their mail-in ballots that informed them that "your witness must sign and provide their full address (street number, street name, city) in the Certification of Witness section" and warned that "if any of the required information above is missing, your ballot will not be counted."

However, on October 19th, the WEC sent instructions to clerks that they can simply fill in the witness address themselves so that the ballot would not be invalidated.

"Please note that the clerk should attempt to resolve any missing witness address information prior to Election Day if possible, and this can be done through reliable information (personal knowledge, voter registration information, through a phone call with the voter or witness)," WEC wrote. "The witness does not need to appear to add a missing address."

"In defiance of and direct contradiction to the statute, the Wisconsin Elections Commission gave guidance--that is, cover--to all 72 county clerks and turned the statute on his head," Gableman said. "They said, 'Gee, we know the law says an absentee ballot without the witness address is not valid, but county clerk, you have a duty to go ahead and look up on your own the witness' address if there's no address on the absentee ballot."

Anticipating a legal challenge to this seemingly highly unlawful advice, the WEC instructed clerks to write in these witness addresses in red pen so that they would be easy to find during a recount or audit of the vote.

The Republican Party of Wisconsin estimates that thousands of witness addresses may have been changed, thus invalidating the ballots on which they appeared. The statutory remedy for this is to subtract a commensurate number of votes for the candidates for whom those ballots were cast, meaning that vote totals may substantially change.

President Trump's campaign is investigating the scale to which clerks and election workers were altering ballots as well as several other incidents that it has termed "irregularities." President Trump has also publicly called for a recount of Wisconsin's vote.

Former Vice President Joe Biden won the state by roughly 20,000 votes, a margin of less than one percent.

[Nov 15, 2020] Martin Armstrong- This Is The Most Corrupt Election In American History -

Nov 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Martin Armstrong: This Is The Most Corrupt Election In American History


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Via Greg Hunter's USAWatchdog.com,

Legendary financial and geopolitical cycle analyst Martin Armstrong said his computers picked up massive fraud coming in the 2020 Election years ago.

Armstrong explains, "The computer doesn't ask my opinion, or anybody else's, it just goes on the numbers from the economic data. It's never been wrong ..."

"Besides 2016 (predicted Trump win) and for this one, it said it would be the most corrupt election in American history. I published this out at least two years ago. People have to understand, this isn't my opinion. This has gone far beyond anything I would have anticipated. Every election you have had dead people voting. That's pretty standard, and that's not something new. . . . This is just off the charts. This is the Left, and they are so desperate to take over the United States ."

If the cheating is "off the charts," then how bad was it in terms of fraudulent votes, including votes taken from President Trump and votes given to Joe Biden? Armstrong contends,

"The cheating is in the millions, definitely millions, and perhaps as much as 38 million . This is some of the information I am getting from behind the curtain."

Martin Armstrong also warns, "They (Democrats/communists) want to eliminate the Supreme Court -- period. This is outrageous what they are doing..."

" That's why I have said this is not a simple election between Republican and Democrat. This is something much more sinister. . . . You will own nothing, and you will be happy. Their idea is to strip everybody of all property -- period. That's communism. Then you are going to give guaranteed basic income. If you don't do what the government tells you to do, like get a vaccine or whatever, then, oh, your guaranteed basic income will be suspended. Then how are you going to eat? This is what they are doing. . . . In communism, they take all assets away from everybody."

Armstrong also says, "They are using CV19 and climate change to set an agenda for control."

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In closing, Armstrong says, "We are getting into a situation where it is a war against us. .."

" I hope Trump wins because . . . he's our last defense against some of these people, and that's why they have been trying to steal this election . . . . They are promoting this great reset–and it's communism. These people think this is good for the climate, but they are going to find out they are selling out, not just themselves, but their families and all posterity."

Join Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com as he goes One-on-One in this in-depth interview (40 mins. in length) with Martin Armstrong of ArmstrongEconomics.com.

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Martin Armstrong says he likes gold but is more bullish on physical silver. He says you can make small transactions with it. Silver will probably not be confiscated by the government, and it is also not tracked by government, at least for the time being.
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This headline is the truth.

Official who backed fake Obama wiretapping theory promoted to key Pentagon post

https://www.timesofisrael.com/official-who-backed-fake-obama-wiretapping-theory-promoted-to-key-pentagon-post/

tion , 1 hour ago link

He was trained by the CIA but gives his primary loyalty elsewhere. Who do you think he really works for.

Discern. Understand the implication of the depths of the Psychological Operations you've been subjected to see where you're being lead to.

Deck , 1 hour ago link

"Deep state", "mysterious vans", "stolen election", whatever. Trump has been spewing these accusations of voter fraud for months leading up to the election (even though he voted by mail himself many times - both as a private citizen and as potus).

If he was so worried about fraud he should have used the most powerful legal team in the world, the DOJ, to dig into these battleground states and find the means and methods of corruption and stop it before it ever happened. If he had bad lawyers in the DOJ he should have fired them 4 years ago, rather than goofing around with Obama holdovers.

But like everything else, trump tweets and then turns into a lazy bum. If there was mass fraud, republicans have only themselves to blame - putting their trust in a " do nothing" carny barker.

tion , 1 hour ago link

Ezra was embedded into Jeff Sessions' DOJ to keep an eye out for anything that might hit too close to (((home))). Jeff Sessions was then fired and replaced with long time CIA operative Bill Barr, whose father gave operative Jeffrey Epstein his first job at Dalton School.

LetThemEatRand , 1 hour ago link

It's a full court press to hide the fraud. Drudge? Sold and now propaganda. Fox News? Not even trying to pretend anymore. Twitter censoring the President of the United States. Was watching the local news last night, direct quote: "President Trump's claims of election fraud, which are false, ...." And then there's the global response to COVID.

Whatever they have in mind, it's not limited to this election or this country.

Obamaroid Ointment , 1 hour ago link

The Hammer and Scorecard smoking gun: 150,000 Michigan presidential 'voters' didn't vote for Senate

If you want to see how poorly the Democrats planned their theft of the election, just look at their botched math in Michigan.

littlewing , 1 hour ago link

Rudy tweeted the he and Sidney have Dominion in their hands, massive fraud will report tomorrow.

gro_dfd , 56 minutes ago link

hugin: Link to today's interview with Sidney Powell. She says she has evidence for massive fraud:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/15/sidney-powell-were-fixing-to-overturn-the-election-results-with-new-evidence-n2580118

rlouis , 1 hour ago link

And it keeps getting worse/better/popcorn (go team!!)

November 15, 2020

The Dominion software story keeps getting worse https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_dominion_software_story_keeps_getting_worse.htmlhttps://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_dominion_software_story_keeps_getting_worse.html

By Andrea Widburg

Dominion software's reputation for reliability may have taken another hit with the claim that Eric Coomer, a vice president and dominion, and the person in charge of the software's security, is an Antifa supporter and Trump hater. This information is disturbing when added to the way in which the software churned out impossible pro-Biden results in the wee hours of November 4 in Democrat-run states following a Trump wave.

Wikipedia has deleted most of Dominion's history. I visited the page a few days ago and read about its origins in Venezuela. If you go to the Wikipedia page today, that history is gone and, in its place are accusations against QAnon. At the "view history" page, you can see dozens of recent changes since the election. The primary editor – Molly White – is a recent college grad and bisexual leftist.

Obamaroid Ointment , 1 hour ago link

from https://pandemic.warroom.org/ :

● "Revolver: Contaminated Vote Means States Must Appoint Electors"
● USPS Worker Caught at Canadian Border With Stolen Ballots In Car Trunk
● Veritas: "PA USPS Insider Exposes 'Nov. 3' Postmark Voter Fraud Scheme"
● Veritas: "Vegas Mailman Agrees To Pass On 'A Nice Handful'" of Ballots
● Veritas: "Michigan USPS 'Insider' Delivers Testimony Of 'Shady' Postmark Scheme"
● Michigan GOP Senate Candidate John James: "Elections Must Be Fair and Honest"
● PA Dems Accused of Violations, Offering Ballot Info to Party Operatives
● No, Dems and Media, We Aren't Taking Your Word for It This Election
● Pollak: "7 Kinds of Election Interference, from Fraud to Censorship"
● Georgia Election Officials "Uncounted" Ballots Rising?
● Ken Starr Explains Trump Camp Legal Challenges in NV, PA
● Paging Bernie: Socialist Website Notices Google Admits to Censoring Them
● MSNBC Cuts Off Live Broadcast of Trump Speech
● Half of President's Twitter/Facebook Post-Election Posts Censored
● Adriana Cohen: Big Tech Using Censorship to Tip Elections
● PARLER CEO Slams Twitter's Censorship of President Trump
● " Peaceful Protests:" Ex-Nadler Intern Charged with Spitting on Officer
● " Peaceful Protests:" Man Tries to Strangle NYPD Cop With Chain
● 2015: 18 Ex-ACORN Workers Convicted or Admitted Guilt in Election Fraud
● Olbermann: Trump Must Be Removed from Office and Arrested Tonight
● Letter in Gen. Washington's Hometown Paper: "Media Censorship is Indoctrination"
● Gun Sales Climb Among Black Men & Women (Good, 2nd Amendment is for All)
● American Mind: "What We Saw Coming"

Obamaroid Ointment , 1 hour ago link

Wisconsin Clerks May Have Unlawfully Altered Thousands of Absentee Ballots

[Nov 15, 2020] GOP Rep. Jordan- Democrats Spent Four Years on 'Russia Hoax,' Don't Want to Spend Four Weeks on 2020 Election

Nov 15, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

"We need to investigate," he said. "Look, the Democrats spent four years investigating the Russian hoax, but they don't want to take four weeks investigating the integrity of this election when you have all these affidavits, you have all these concerns? You had this situation in Michigan where 6,000 votes went for Biden, but they were actually supposed to go for President Trump. So we need to investigate. I love your opening, Judge, because you asked so many 'why' questions. Any time you do an investigation -- I'm involved with lots of investigations in the Congress. You always ask the why question because it gets to motive."

"Why didn't Democrats want Republicans to observe the count?" Jordan continued. "Why did it seem like on election night that all the important swing states that kept counting the president won. But the swing states that took a several-hour pause in the count, the president ended up losing? Why did that happen? Why don't the Democrats want to know? And frankly, in the state of Pennsylvania, which I spent five days in after the election -- why were some counties allowed to cure their ballots -- let voters in those counties cure their ballots but other counties couldn't? Why did some counties allow a pre-canvas of ballots, but other counties didn't? And why did some counties set up temporary satellite voting places, but other counties didn't? You can imagine which counties did those things and which counties didn't -- all those important 'why' questions. Why don't Democrats want to know? Again, they spent four years investigating this fake Russian thing. But they can't spend four weeks to get at the integrity of the American elections system and figure out what exactly took place? That's why Americans want this to continue and want to get the truth."

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[Nov 15, 2020] Why doesn't Biden camp want to know truth about voting irregularities

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Why most republican won, Trump recied more votes then even and Biden is on the top? This is not irregularities, this is frud, possibly including the use of electronic machines, but definitely mass scale mail-in votes fraud. This also put a bug question mark on how Biden derail Sanders in primaries. Biden has no voting base of his own. He is just DNC marionette. Looks like the same players were involved, the same mechanisms were used both in Dems Primaries and in general election.
Democratic lawyers maneuvers directly toward weakening of any safeguards for mail-in votes before the election now make much more sense.
Nov 15, 2020 | video.foxnews.com

Fox Business Videos Why doesn't Biden camp want to know truth about voting irregularities?

House Judiciary Committee ranking member Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, addresses investigations into alleged election voter fraud on 'Sunday Morning Futures.'

[Nov 15, 2020] The Democrats cheat every election. Every single one. This one more than ever. Brazenly

That's how neoliberal Trotskyite operate. They "spread democracy" in various countries since 1991. Not the turn came to the USA. Nothing new nothing interesting.
Nov 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

Twodees Partain , says: Next New Comment November 14, 2020 at 11:38 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago

@DanFromCT

I think that democrat vote fraud goe

GazaPlanet , says: November 14, 2020 at 8:46 pm GMT • 6.1 hours ago
@Harold Smith

He had plenty of "help" out the door, and I didn't know "peacenik" was an insult.

The Democrats cheat every election. Every single one. This one more than ever. Brazenly.

The idea that they don't cheat is ridiculous. To be against them cheating is "racist." Just like having poll observers watching what they're doing, it's like glass over the ethnic products. RACIST.

If you can't admit the Democrats cheat, you're likely to be some sort of Left-wing ideologue.

Rogue , says: November 14, 2020 at 5:37 pm GMT • 9.3 hours ago
@N30rebel the media and the loony lefties keep saying he is.

And the alternative to him is a creepy grandpa with early dementia. And his running-mate is deep into identity politics (which is just another way of saying "screw you straight White man").

At least Mike Pence is a Christian man with actual principles. If something happened to the Donald I would not feel bad about Pence taking over. However, the Kamala cackler taking over from sleepy, creepy Joe is quite something else.

And bear in mind, if this was an election in Guatemala or Swaziland, it wouldn't matter and be none of my concern. But who takes power in the USA, Russia etc is the whole World's concern.

Priss Factor , says: Website November 14, 2020 at 3:38 am GMT • 23.3 hours ago

A real hope -- although one that probably won't materialize as most 'conservatives' are stupid -- is that all the many people who voted for Trump will finally wake up and realize the the Big Capitalists, Deep State, and Military-Industrial-Complex are their enemy. The great contradiction of US politics has been that right-wing conservative types have been reliably supportive of the authoritarian elements of society. Too often, they supported the military-industrial-complex on grounds of 'patriotism' and 'support the troops'. They supported the Deep State in the name of National Security and stability-and-order. They supported the rich on the basis of free capitalism vs oppressive socialism. So, even as the forces of the military, money, and management have become increasingly anti-conservative, anti-white, anti-rural, and anti-nationalist over the years, too many conservatives could be counted on to support the Powers-that-be in the name of USA-USA-USA patriotism, national security, respect for authority and law & order.

Well guess what? The powers-that-be pulled every dirty trick in the book to bring about the 'new cold war' with Russia, endless wars in the Middle East(in which rural Americans kill and get killed), the Covid economy, anti-white vitriol in media/academia, the Summer of Floyd, and a stolen election. Will conservative America finally wake up to the fact that the Big Money, Military-Industrial Complex, and the National Security apparatus(that should now be called the Global Hegemony machine) are totally against them?

Imagine what would happen to US politics and power dynamics if most conservatives were to become anti-authoritarian and quasi-leftist and quasi-radical in their attitude about the ruling class? What if they began to realize that they are the New Palestinians under Jewish Supremacist Control? After Jewish Power gave them the horrible year of 2020, will they still shill for 'Muh Israel'?

The funny thing about US politics is the Powers-that-be depend heavily on conservatives who blindly, childishly, and knee-jerkedly support the systems of power. Conservatives have a natural inclination to turn mushy before social superiors, the powerful, the rich, the order, and etc. They are more likely to be trusting, respectful, and supportive of the Power. Now, this might be okay in a system that is pro-conservative. But does it make sense to support the power in a system that's anti-conservative?

If mainstream conservative types become like Justin Raimondo and Abby Martin in their view of the Power, then the Power will suffer. Even though the current Power has the support of 'liberals', it's a shaky relationship because liberal-types like to see themselves as the critics of Power. So, even though most 'liberals' today are useless, there is still something within left-leaning thought that is distrustful of power. It's like Michael Moore sucks up to Hollywood and rubs shoulders with the Liberal Rich but still stands for sticking it to the Man. In contrast, Rush Limbaugh has been about sucking up to the rich as the best of the best and support the troops in more wars, or Trust the Power. Even though Wall Street favored Biden 5 t0 1, you hear conservatives yammer about 'the danger of socialism'. And even though Jews destroyed Trump, conservatives fret about 'Biden will throw Israel under the bus'. Never mind weasel Netanyahu was the first one to congratulate Biden.

But imagine a new kind of American Right consciousness that is conservative in values but 'radical' in opposition to the power. Closer in values to Pat Buchanan but closer in attitude to Michael Moore.

American Right has been like the mule in American Politics. Much abused and maligned by the Power but dutifully serving it without much complaint. It's in the nature of the Right to respect power and authority. But after 2020, isn't it about time for real change? When the super-rich, the military industrial complex, and almost all figures of authority imposed Biden/Harris as the leaders of America, it's about time for the Right to wake up and smell the coffee. Stop being a dumb mule. Learn to kick and disobey.

But more likely, craven conzo types will get on their knees and plead, "You guys acted real bad in 2020. Will you please oh please promise you won't act that again? Pretty please with cherry on top? And then, we will support your power, privilege, and wealth cuz we on the Right are natural ass-kissers of the Power." Beyond pathetic.

GazaPlanet , says: November 14, 2020 at 2:26 am GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Harold Smith

It's certainly likely that Trump lost some votes among so-called "peaceniks." I didn't vote for him. He received a lot more votes than last election.

Let's get real, if those Sanders crossover voters turned out for Trump this time, there would no be trouble producing enough fraudulent ballots to outnumber them. There would have been as many votes as necessary. Do you really doubt that they tried to steal 2016? Hillary was no mood to concede.

[Nov 15, 2020] Existence of many mail-in ballots in which only presidential candidate was selected suggests that Dems plan was if they didn't have enough votes, stop the count and then add the thousands of legitimate Biden Ballots

Nov 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

headless blogger , 53 minutes ago

And this is EXACTLY how they did the fraud.

The thousands of Valid Biden Ballots that showed up in the wee morning hours of 11-4 had all been dumped in.

The INVALID ballots were already, for the most part, counted in, making it almost impossible to get this sorted, save for the entire state being declared invalid and a new date to vote set (would need to be in person).

Their plan was if they didn't have enough votes, stop the count and then add the thousands of legitimate Biden Ballots, which would be highly scrutenized.

headless blogger , 48 minutes ago

This election fraud method will set a precedent for future election fraud by the corrupted DNC.

Use mail in ballots, thousands of which will be illegal (but impossible to correct once they've been counted). Then, keep a large batch of legitimate votes for the DNC candidate in case their guy is losing and then dump them after closing the count for the night. If the opposition demands investigations all the dumped in ballots will of course show as legitimate.

They will be left to explain how the dumped in votes in middle of night were all for their candidate only. They will just scream: Circumstantial.

[Nov 15, 2020] Criminal naivety in Massachusetts

We need to introduce voter test, similar to citizenship test, which should be taken in person before each election
Nov 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

This is as serious a constitutional crisis as our nation has ever faced. We will only be the beacon of hope for the world if we are willing to stand with courage and integrity & defend our republic

@SidneyPowell1


adr , 2 hours ago

Let's say I was given a list of 50 people who the Democrats registered to vote. Senile 90 year olds, people that moved out of the state, etc.

Do you think that there is anything stopping me from voting 50 times in person during the election with early voting?

What about 1000 times with mail in ballots?

To vote in Massachusetts, all I need to do is show up and say my name and address. I don't need any proof of who I am. Not even a signature. After I say my name and address, they check me off in the book. If I say a name other than my own, they would simply check off that other name.

The integrity of our election is based on the idea that even with the absolute ability to commit fraud and virtually no way of getting caught, nobody will do it.

That is criminal naivety.

SDShack , 1 hour ago

3rd world countries use Paper Ballot, Voter Roll, Voter ID, Purple finger dye. Not fancy, but effective. Here we have to have a collection of Rube Goldberg election devices so everyone can get their cut from manufacturers, make it so complicated that only "election officials" can sort it out...thus preserving their job security, and finally make it so ripe for fraud that the elites are assured of getting the result they need to keep the swamp going. The function of elections now is job security for the state, not representing the will of the people.

Democrycy , 1 hour ago

That travesty should not be called "election" then. The US election system is a joke, even 3rd world countries don't do such blatant rigging. What is even more frightening is that nobody seems to be able to do anything. If elections are a joke so is the US judicial system. The Soviet Union and China doctatorships are prime examples of the complete control.

Obamaroid Ointment , 2 hours ago

from https://pandemic.warroom.org/ :

● "Revolver: Contaminated Vote Means States Must Appoint Electors"
● USPS Worker Caught at Canadian Border With Stolen Ballots In Car Trunk
● Veritas: "PA USPS Insider Exposes 'Nov. 3' Postmark Voter Fraud Scheme"
● Veritas: "Vegas Mailman Agrees To Pass On 'A Nice Handful'" of Ballots
● Veritas: "Michigan USPS 'Insider' Delivers Testimony Of 'Shady' Postmark Scheme"
● Michigan GOP Senate Candidate John James: "Elections Must Be Fair and Honest"
● PA Dems Accused of Violations, Offering Ballot Info to Party Operatives
● No, Dems and Media, We Aren't Taking Your Word for It This Election
● Pollak: "7 Kinds of Election Interference, from Fraud to Censorship"
● Georgia Election Officials "Uncounted" Ballots Rising?
● Ken Starr Explains Trump Camp Legal Challenges in NV, PA
● Paging Bernie: Socialist Website Notices Google Admits to Censoring Them
● MSNBC Cuts Off Live Broadcast of Trump Speech
● Half of President's Twitter/Facebook Post-Election Posts Censored
● Adriana Cohen: Big Tech Using Censorship to Tip Elections
● PARLER CEO Slams Twitter's Censorship of President Trump
● " Peaceful Protests:" Ex-Nadler Intern Charged with Spitting on Officer
● " Peaceful Protests:" Man Tries to Strangle NYPD Cop With Chain
● 2015: 18 Ex-ACORN Workers Convicted or Admitted Guilt in Election Fraud
● Olbermann: Trump Must Be Removed from Office and Arrested Tonight
● Letter in Gen. Washington's Hometown Paper: "Media Censorship is Indoctrination"
● Gun Sales Climb Among Black Men & Women (Good, 2nd Amendment is for All)
● American Mind: "What We Saw Coming"

[Nov 14, 2020] Jared Thomas, a lobbyist for Dominion Voting Systems, was Georgia Governor Brian Kemp's chief of staff and press secretary from 2012 to 2015.

Nov 14, 2020 | twitter.com

Praying Medic @prayingmedic

Jared Thomas, a lobbyist for Dominion Voting Systems, was Georgia Governor Brian Kemp's chief of staff and press secretary from 2012 to 2015.

[Nov 14, 2020] This might mean the end of the company

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Teamtc321 , 53 minutes ago

Pennsylvania : Switched : 220,883 Lost Votes : 941,248

New Jersey : Switched : 80,242 Lost Votes : 20

Florida : Switched : 21,422 Lost Votes : 456

Michigan : Switched : 20,213 Lost Votes : 21,882

New York : Switched : 18,124 Lost Votes : 623,213

Georgia : Switched : 17,407 Lost Votes : 33,574

Ohio : Switched : 14,965 Lost Votes : 5,102

Virginia : Switched : 12,163 Lost Votes : 789,023

California : Switched : 7,701 Lost Votes : 10,989

Arizona : Switched : 4,492 Lost Votes : 0

Minnesota : Switched : 2,766 Lost Votes : 195,650

Tennessee : Switched : 2,330 Lost Votes : 0

Louisiana : Switched : 2,322 Lost Votes : 0

Illinois : Switched : 2,166 Lost Votes : 54,730

Wisconsin : Switched : 2,078 Lost Votes : 3,408

Colorado : Switched : 1,809 Lost Votes : 0

Utah : Switched : 1,627 Lost Votes : 0

New Hampshire : Switched : 973 Lost Votes : 116

Iowa : Switched : 938 Lost Votes : 477

New Mexico : Switched : 268 Lost Votes : 4,610

Missouri : Switched 0 : Lost Votes : 20,730

Nevada : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0

Alaska : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0

Washington : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0

Hawaii : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0

Kansas and Texas use Premier Election Solutions, owned by Dominion Voting Systems.

Texas : Switched : 14,954 Lost Votes : 30,557

Kansas : Switched : 1,674 Lost Votes : 2,154

Election Systems & Software :

Nebraska : Switched : 30,086 Lost Votes : 50

Kentucky : Switched : 8,129 Lost Votes : 23,849

Arkansas : Switched : 3,664 Lost Votes : 20,748

South Carolina : Switched : 2,779 Lost Votes : 2,119

Montana : Switched : 2,330 Lost Votes : 1,276

South Dakota : Switched : 1,347 Lost Votes : 1

North Dakota : Switched : 234 Lost Votes : 681

Maryland : Switched : 203 Lost Votes : 0

North Carolina : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 15

District of Columbia : Switched : 0 Lost Votes : 0

DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-trump-tweets-report-dominion-deleted-2-7-million-trump-votes-nationwide-data-analysis-finds-221000-pennsylvania-votes-switched-president-trump-biden/

Joe Biden is a fraud and a liar.

[Nov 14, 2020] Trump is up to something: the Dominion machines used in Maricopa County never published technical reviews then they might have been BLACK BOX VOTING MACHINES!

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

@realDonaldTrump

, you might want to look into this issue. If the Dominion machines used in Maricopa County never published technical reviews then they might have been BLACK BOX VOTING MACHINES! What are they hiding by not publishing? Is it legal to not publish?

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[Nov 14, 2020] GOP Rep. Gaetz- 'Those Dominion Software Systems -- They Changed More Votes than Vladimir Putin Ever Did'

Nov 14, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Thursday on Fox News Channel's "Hannity," Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) was critical of how votes were counted in last week's presidential election.

Gaetz pointed to the unlikely demographic of recently registered voters and potential flaws in voting systems manufactured by Dominion to bolster his claim.

"Here's what we know: The chairman of the Federal Election Commission said there was fraud in this election, and when you take the mail-in ballots and balance them against the registry of people who changed their addresses, you see there are tens of thousands of people, 17,000 alone in Georgia who actually moved and then voted in the state that that they moved from," he said. "You know, Reince mentioned these nursing home mystery votes coming in, and the state of Pennsylvania, more people over the age of 90, registered to vote in 2020 than in like the prior four years combined. I call it the Dorothy effect, this notion that there was an immediate interest and surge of voters over the age of 90 during a pandemic. We have yet to find one nursing home where these Democratic registrations were occurring in mass that seems to suggest that those ballots may have been turned in by someone other than the person they were addressed to."

"Now, this isn't impossible to fix. In Florida, we have a standard that requires a review of those mail-in ballots before Election Day. That way, you're able to give them greater scrutiny and ensure a proper scrutiny. But here's one thing I know, Sean, those Dominion software systems, they changed more votes than Vladimir Putin ever did, and we spent four years and tens of millions of dollars over this fiction of Russian collusion with a Trump campaign. I'd say a few more weeks ensuring we had a fair election in 2020 is worth this great nation's time."

Follow Jeff Poor on Twitter @jeff_poor

ThisReallySucks a day ago • edited

When you add up all the various methods of fraud used to sway this election towards Biden we are not talking just a few dead people voting, we are talking millions of votes either taken from Trump and given to Biden or just outright deleted from Trump.

There is no way Biden received enough legal votes to beat Trump. It's just not possible under the circumstances.

134 3 ReplyShare › Avatar Schrödinger's cat ThisReallySucks a day ago • edited

How a Stolen Election has been set aside inside just one week:
A Judge rules that PA Secretary of State, Kathy Bookvar, lacked statutory authority to issue the guidance she did on November 1, which resulted in all Republican observers being excluded from counts. This rules out hundreds of thousands of fake votes and the case moves to SCOTUS. TRUMP WINS.

The investigation of the Dominion foreign owned machines led by Pelosi former chief of staff, Nadeam Elshami continues. Smartmatic owns Dominion was number 2 or 33 in Soros's Change the World Fake Charity.
The servers for these machines are owned in Canada or Spain - they won't allow inspection. Thus it will end up with full audit of all these states, no matter how long that may take. Only then will the complete depth of this heist be realised. For now, it is enough to win the election for TRUMP but it cannot stop there. In Michigan, Philadelphia, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin... 30 states in all used this system. A complete audit is required (is already happening in Georgia). Eventually as many as 30 million votes may have been tampered with. As many as 10 million may have been destroyed for TRUMP alone !!! They didn't know that there were eyes watching this scam, all prepared. Millions of votes being driven in, from out of state, to shore up their losing counts ??? Never before in history have they sunk so low.
Even now another attempted cheat: the USPS has ordered that all TRUMP /Republican will be suppressed whilst all mailings will be delivered for Biden...
See Rudy here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/...

Biden will never be President - instead he will be an inmate !!! Lin Wood, lawyer
He may even share a cell with someone called Murdoch !!!

TRUMP WINS !!! see more

66 ReplyShare › Avatar Deplorable Texan Schrödinger's cat a day ago

Even the Chairman of the Fed Election Commission agrees!

19 ReplyShare › Avatar jedbutler Deplorable Texan a day ago

Looks like the Pretend PresElect and his blackmailing co-conspirators are making their pressure count: Porter Day pulls out of PA and now this:

Newsmax is reporting that Benjamin Hovland, who chairs the U.S. Election Assistance Commission,
and Bob Kolasky, the assistant director of the Cybersecurity and
Infrastructure Security Agency, part of the Department of Homeland
Security along with 10 others are reporting that this election is "the most secure in US history".
WTF? Those threats about shunning apparently involve more than just cocktail parties.

13 ReplyShare › Avatar James Madison jedbutler a day ago

I read the Newsmax article and it's from Bloomberg -- you know, Mike Bloomberg's personal propaganda outlet.

12 ReplyShare › Avatar jpatriot18 James Madison a day ago

Bloomberg Media--an never ending globalist propaganda wellspring.

7 ReplyShare › Avatar jedbutler James Madison a day ago

thanks for the clarification .. I've only started reading there and didn't know they sourced from news groups like that. Much appreciated

3 ReplyShare › Avatar Chalo_lozano jedbutler a day ago

Seems like the swamp is bigger that anybody thought.....

6 ReplyShare › Avatar jedbutler Chalo_lozano a day ago

yep even Trump said it surprised him and that's hard to do

2 ReplyShare › Avatar jpatriot18 jedbutler a day ago

The swamp's Soviet style bureaucratic apparatus is every bit as toxic to those that fall out of line as found in every totalitarian state in the history of the planet.

3 ReplyShare › Avatar jedbutler jpatriot18 a day ago

I think they're more Maoist but maybe that really doesn't matter? For some reason the Chinese seem more brutal and single minded. They have definitely run God out of their culture in ways the Soviets never did

1 ReplyShare › Avatar GMBurns jedbutler a day ago

The Obammunists with the weight in the Dem Party are indeed Maoist or some close variation.

Valerie Jarrett was told that new-hire Van Jones was a 'former' communist. She only asked "What kind?"
When the answer was "Maoist", she replied with one word: "Good".

ReplyShare › Avatar Vandyman63 jedbutler a day ago

Any guess what Party they belong to?
Bingo!!

4 1 ReplyShare › Avatar John F. Deplorable Texan a day ago

Most of the members of the FEC disagree. You should find that story.

ReplyShare › Avatar Deplorable Texan John F. a day ago

Post it.

ReplyShare › Avatar John F. Deplorable Texan a day ago

https://disq.us/url?url=htt...

ReplyShare › Avatar Deplorable Texan John F. a day ago

LOL

ReplyShare › Avatar mutantbeast Schrödinger's cat a day ago

Ga has already found 98,000 "Xiden only" "votes" in just the first day of the recount. Those are likely to end up getting thrown out.

17 ReplyShare › Avatar tjsbudster77 mutantbeast a day ago

I looked for myself county by county. Repub. Votes for president, house and senate were about the same in almost every county. But biden got 100,000 more than his fellow dems. Not possible. Especially with 2 senate seats.

3 ReplyShare › Avatar James Madison mutantbeast a day ago

How do you know this? Can you link it?

1 ReplyShare › Avatar tom mutantbeast a day ago

Keep us posted on that , can't get real news any where.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar GMBurns tom a day ago

Local sources are often more complete, but national news is hiding a lot. And one-horse operations like BB don't have the posse needed to track everything down.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar tom GMBurns a day ago

Got ya thanks

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Fiodora Fyodora Schrödinger's cat a day ago

That's right!
Pedo-beijing-joe will never be a president.
AMERICA FIRST/TRUMP ELECT PRESIDENT OF THE GREAT U.S.A.

11 ReplyShare › Avatar liberal detestor Schrödinger's cat a day ago

Biden won't sit a day in prison. He'll keel over first. His son is another story. Anyone higher up the "food chain" (Obama -Hillary etc.) will never serve time either. They're "untouchable" because of the politicians in this country wouldn't want to start a trend.!

11 2 ReplyShare › Avatar Fiodora Fyodora liberal detestor a day ago

We caught them all!
AMERICA FIRST/TRUMP PRESIDENT ELECTED OF THE U.S.A.

6 ReplyShare › Avatar GMBurns liberal detestor a day ago

No. They have gone too far this time. They must and will be run to earth and then dug up.

ReplyShare › Avatar liberal detestor GMBurns a day ago

I'd like to see them hang.!

2 ReplyShare › Avatar GMBurns liberal detestor a day ago

Emotionally, sometimes I feel that way.

But if we manage to save law and Constitution, then let's follow them. Twenty years in prison would give us a chance to send them postcards from all the places they wish they were.
Of course, if we can't save the Constitution, then there are no rules at all, and all kinds of things would happen, for a state of "nature, red in tooth and claw" would prevail.

I don't think they will pull this off. The threats they are throwing around are a way of saying "Don't you dare check the vote!"

It shows they know the fraud is massive, and think it will be caught if our agents don't give up.

The course for us is to keep up the pressure on the people who do the checking, and soon enough, the prosecuting and judging.

And then get busy making sure they cannot try again.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Aicha Wallaby Schrödinger's cat a day ago

"Biden will never be President - instead he will be an inmate"

Well, as long as he gets his jello, he'll be happy. His puppetmasters - not so much

4 ReplyShare › Avatar GMBurns Aicha Wallaby a day ago

He won't usually even know what basement he is in.

2 ReplyShare › Avatar Judith Kuhlman Schrödinger's cat 15 hours ago

thanks for sharing! You have reassured me. I'm not so depressed now. We all knew TRUMP WON. How do we get rid of the socialist, fascists?

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Schrödinger's cat Judith Kuhlman 11 hours ago

We still have to fight and not give an inch. You are right, though. We shall win. Even if you don't live in Georgia, you are perfectly entitled to write to the authorities in Georgia and insist they stop limiting Republican observers to one every 10 tables. Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger awarded a $107m contract to them to provide their technology. Elections security is my top priority , he said at the time. My suspicion is that he took a commission from them (or their associates) as well so has a deep conflict of interest. He needs to be audited financially.

Fight for open access for observers !!!

3 ReplyShare › Avatar Balder The Brave Schrödinger's cat a day ago

Trump Wins! Trump Wins! Trump Wins!

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Tumbleweed7 Schrödinger's cat a day ago

IF President Trump wins, America wins. If joe biden is declared to have won, all of America looses.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Squarepeg Roundhole Schrödinger's cat a day ago

😆 🤣 😂 keep telling yourself that 🤡. You're so delusional just like the rest of the beta cucks on breitbart. Can't wait to see you eat your asinine post come January when Biden is sworn in... you'll be crying the blues while the world moves on.

3 33 ReplyShare › Avatar yak_disqus Squarepeg Roundhole a day ago

Oh boy! freshly minted troll here: 6 comments and 4 upvotes (he has more than one account).

15 1 ReplyShare › Avatar Will Hunt yak_disqus a day ago

It upvotes itself. LOL.....

10 ReplyShare › Avatar Fiodora Fyodora Will Hunt a day ago

LOL

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Theo Cage yak_disqus a day ago

Everyone who adds a comment you don't like is a troll and everyone who agrees is your bunker buddy. What a tired old line.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar yak_disqus Theo Cage a day ago

Actually, that is not my criterion. I'm sure you could do an online search (for yourself) on how to "spot" a troll. Heck, there are even sometimes folks that look like conservative "trolls" of a sort, and there are also accounts that are used for other purposes -- like giving upvotes to others. Thing is, folks who come here to spew insults without giving anyone any thought-oriented viewpoints or reactions to articles are typically trolls.
Folks who get too emotionally charged in the insults -- much the same --
Screen names also have histories and are recognizable.
Here's one pattern:
New guy + insults + nonsense = troll
"nonsense" often indicates an automated mechanism is being employed for posts.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar GMBurns yak_disqus a day ago • edited

We need a new academic field: Troll Studies.
Some (not all) of those who pretend to be 'friendlies' can be called 'concern trolls'. That term has been around for a while. I contrast them with 'nuisance trolls'.

People who actually attempt to persuade the audience without dishonesty I don't classify as trolls at all.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Fiodora Fyodora Squarepeg Roundhole a day ago

soy-boy your lack of mental agility is evident.
please wear your mask before toying with your biden doll.

5 ReplyShare › Avatar mutantbeast Fiodora Fyodora a day ago

or his Soros blow up toy.

4 ReplyShare › Avatar Fiodora Fyodora mutantbeast a day ago

LOL
I'm stealing that

2 ReplyShare › Avatar taxpayer Squarepeg Roundhole a day ago • edited

Either way I will be laughing because if Biden, whoops, Harris I mean, is elected you'll be crying yourself later on.

3 ReplyShare › Avatar nikondvr taxpayer a day ago

God help us all if that happens but at least we will get a smidgen of satisfaction watching them go "what? But we were on your side. Why do we have to eat dirt and lose freedom too?Waaaaa!!"

ReplyShare › Avatar tom taxpayer a day ago

Or getting ready to fix this corruption.

ReplyShare › Avatar ib4x4n Squarepeg Roundhole a day ago

Words of a puffy eyed "alpha"poll puffer, been crying for four ? or is it five years now.
LMFAO
What you gonna burn down if this attempted theft get righted?
Make sure it's not your two moms basement🤣

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Cheryl Danver Squarepeg Roundhole a day ago

"Beta cucks"

Honestly, can't you people even come up with your OWN insults? I'm sick to death even of CONSERVATIVES using "beta cuck", "snowflake", "soy boy" and "Mama's basement."

We need fresh material here!

[Nov 14, 2020] Top Democrats Raised Concerns About Dominion Voting Technology in 2019

Nov 14, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., speaks to the media outside her home Thursday, March 5, 2020, in Cambridge, Mass., after she dropped out of the Democratic presidential race. (AP Photo/Steven Senne)
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ASHLEY OLIVER 13 Nov 2020 450 4:00

Democrat leaders, including Sens. Elizabeth Warren (MA), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Ron Wyden (OR), wrote a letter in December 2019 to the private equity firms controlling the United States' three leading voting technology companies, expressing concern in the letter about the voting technology industry's "vulnerabilities" and "lack of transparency."

The letter was sent on December 6, 2019, to three private equity firms, taking issue with "vulnerabilities and a lack of transparency in the election technology industry and the poor condition of voting machines and other election technology equipment," Warren's office said of the letter. The letter sought information about what role the firms had in perpetuating the technology issues.

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The letter was sent to the following:

H.I.G. Capital, investing in Hart InterCivic McCarthy Group, investing in Election Systems & Software Staple Street Capital, investing in Dominion Voting Systems

At the time, those three voting technology companies facilitated 90 percent of voters, the letter noted, citing the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

Today, Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems facilitate more than three-quarters of voters, while Hart InterCivic was "quietly sold" by its owner, H.I.G. Capital, in April of this year, according to an October 28, 2020, report from the Wall Street Journal , which also cited Wharton School.

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Dominion entered the spotlight in the days following the election after unofficial results were reported erroneously in Antrim County, Michigan -- one of many locations that utilizes Dominion's software for its elections. The results attracted attention late on election night after showing presidential candidate Joe Biden (D) leading President Donald Trump in the heavily red county. A statement from Michigan's secretary of state explained the error was an "isolated user error" and not a software error.

Gwinnett County, Georgia, which also utilizes Dominion's software, experienced a delay in vote counting because of an unknown issue with the software. The county reported that Dominion technicians had resolved the issue by November 8 and that the county was able to count its remaining ballots that day.

Trump's campaign and many Republican pundits have sounded alarms over the voting technology, but the letter from leading Democrats in 2019 indicates concerns may be bipartisan.

The Democrats' letter identified a multitude of issues, at one point referencing a Vice report, saying, "In 2018 alone 'voters in South Carolina [were] reporting machines that switched their votes after they'd inputted them, scanners [were] rejecting paper ballots in Missouri, and busted machines [were] causing long lines in Indiana.'"

The letter also noted that around 20 election technology vendors had competed in that market in the early 2000s but that the vendors have since consolidated to where only a few control the "vast majority of the market."

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Warren told the Journal in an email, "Private-equity firms 'have taken over nearly all of the nation's election technology -- and how they do business is clouded in secrecy.'" Staple Street Capital, which purchased Dominion in 2018, reportedly partially responded to the Democrats' letter at the time, while the other two firms did not respond.

Dominion issued a vehement statement Friday fully rejecting various accusations that have been circulating about the company since the election. Dominion said that it "categorically denies false assertions about vote switching issues with our voting systems," that the company is nonpartisan, and that "assertions of voter fraud conspiracies are 100% false."

Write to Ashley Oliver at [email protected] .

[Nov 14, 2020] Sidney Powell says she has evidence of Dominion and that is was used on November third

Highly recommended!
Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

TommyLimey , 3 hours ago

Maxx99 , 1 hour ago

This just in. Sidney Powell says she has evidence of Dominion and that is was used on November third. She also says that she has evidence the governors were involved. Release the Kraken!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgW3XR7KLPs

[Nov 14, 2020] Sidney Powell says that they are also looking into which governors and Secretary of state's were INVESTED in Dominion. Apparently we have these idiots also caught trying to make money off of voter fraud

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


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chubbar , 1 hour ago

Here's some potentially interesting information.

https://youtu.be/qxGe3Nfnrgo

It's an interview of Sidney Powell by Lou Dobbs. At the 1:14 mark Sidney says that they are also looking into which governors and Secretary of state's were INVESTED in Dominion. Apparently we have these idiots also caught trying to make money off of voter fraud.

Wasn't Brian Kemp, the GOP governor of GA, the SOS of GA before becoming Governor? Isn't he the guy who won't call on the legislature to address these voting irregularities? Is he the guy in charge of this fake recount?

Is it possible this guy is also a Trojan horse, never Trumper? This recount is a sham, the Governor is GOP, looks like to me that another traitor has been uncovered!

[Nov 14, 2020] RUMOR -- US Army Seized Servers in Germany Tied to Dominion Voting System

This is a false rumor, but information about this shady and probably controlled by intelligence agencies company is interesting.
Notable quotes:
"... Andrea Widburg at American Thinker earlier reported that Scytl has (or had) connections to Soros and the Democrat party. Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen' s Vulcan Capital has invested $40 million in Scytl , and other source points out that Bill Gates also owns stock in Scytl . ..."
Nov 14, 2020 | gnews.org

In spite of the mainstream media and Big Tech continue flagging and suppressing the information that regarding the electoral fraud, enormous evidence just keep flooding in.

Earlier today Rep. Louie Gohmert has confirmed on Newsmax that a software company called Scytl , has been improperly collecting the election data through Spain was raided by a large US army force and its servers were seized in Frankfurt, Germany.

Scytl is a Barcelona-based software company that sells election software in more than 20 countries, including the USA, Mexico, France, Norway, Switzerland, Austria, BiH, and India.

As it shows on the company's website:

Scytl has successfully delivered election modernization projects in the US since 2008, and most recently for the 2018 Midterm Elections when over 70M voters from more than 900 U.S. counties successfully leveraged Scytl's technology. Also, during the 2016 US Presidential Election Scytl's technology provided over 53 million registered voters and thousands of election staff across 28 states the benefits of more efficient, scalable, and accessible election processes, consolidating Scytl as the leading election modernization provider in the United States.

According to a report by Forbes in 2017:

Scytl applies end-to-end encryption, vote return cords, and a bulletin board audit service. Scytl's customers include France's Ministry of Foreign Affairs , the European Green Party, the Parliament of the European Union, and the Swiss Canton of Fribourg . In January 2012, the company bought SOE Software. Scytl also holds more than 40 patents and patent applications.

However, the company was declared bankrupt in June this year. The company filed for bankruptcy as part of a broader analysis of security vulnerabilities associated with digital voting.

Andrea Widburg at American Thinker earlier reported that Scytl has (or had) connections to Soros and the Democrat party. Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen' s Vulcan Capital has invested $40 million in Scytl , and other source points out that Bill Gates also owns stock in Scytl .

When the U.S. government confirmed that the Dominion Voting System is involved in the electoral fraud, the intelligence community was instructed to search for its servers and found out that they were in Germany. However, the CIA was totally excluded from this operation.

By obtaining the servers, the US government, on the other hand, will have direct evidence of this electoral fraud: when was the ballot-counting stopped; who gave the instruction to stop ballot-counting; and who initiated the algorithm which enabled to switch votes

Sources:

[Nov 14, 2020] Scytl Denies That The US Military Raided And Seized Their Servers In Germany That Have "Extremely Compelling" Data Detailing Vote Switching

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

xxx 5 hours ago remove link

If true who got the servers the good guys(MAGA team) or the bad guys (Deep State)

Video: Scytl Denies That The US Military Raided And Seized Their Servers In Germany That Have "Extremely Compelling" Data Detailing Vote Switching

https://redstatenation.com/video-scytl-denies-that-the-us-military-raided-and-seized-their-servers-in-germany-that-have-extremely-compelling-data-detailing-vote-switching/

[Nov 14, 2020] In view of BLM and Antifa riots the idea that Trump lost while working class vote looks very questionable

Nov 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:42 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

@TheTrumanShow votes and that fake story was given as the reason why.

They went for a softer approach in KY in 2019. The first-term Repub Gov had a Yankee's forthrightness so they just latched onto comments he made regarding the underfunded teachers pension program and amped-it to high heaven getting teachers all in a frightful frenzy.

In that solidly Red state, with all other prominent offices on the ballot (AG, SoS, etc.) going overwhelmingly Repub , somehow the Repub Gov loses to the Dem by around 5000 votes. The "teachers pension" narrative was rolled-out as the reason. (Btw, it seems that Dominion, or another type, software was used to switch the votes in that race. I've seen video about it.)

[Nov 14, 2020] US election- Georgia burst pipe story called into question

Nov 14, 2020 | news.com.au

Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a "burst pipe" at Atlanta's State Farm Arena that was blamed for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night.

The only evidence for the burst pipe, released under freedom-of-information laws, was a text message exchange in which one senior employee at the stadium described it as "highly exaggerated a slow leak that caused about an hour and a half delay" and that "we contained it quickly – it did not spread".

"Beyond the lack of documentary evidence of the inspection or repair of a ruptured pipe, we are being asked to believe that there is not one single picture of this allegedly ruptured pipe, at a time and in a place where virtually everything is recorded and documented," Georgia lawyer Paul Dzikowski, who obtained the text messages, told news.com.au in an email on Wednesday night.

The right-wing Gateway Pundit website first reported the story on Wednesday.

President Donald Trump mentioned the burst pipe in his speech last Friday , where he claimed key battleground states where he was leading Mr Biden suspiciously stopped counting on Tuesday night.

"In Georgia, a pipe burst in a far away location, totally unrelated to the location of what was happening and they stopped counting for four hours," he said, in a claim that was disputed by fact checkers .

On Monday, Mr Dzikowski sent an open records request concerning the burst pipe to the Atlanta-Fulton County Recreation Authority – the state authority that owns State Farm Arena.

"Please produce all 'public records' related to the burst pipe at State Farm Arena that occurred on or about November 3, 2020, which impacted the counting of ballots by Fulton County authorities, including and not limited to internal and external communications with any person(s), communications with Fulton County Board of Registrations and Elections, memoranda, notes, work orders, requisitions, invoices, repair records, and all other public records," Mr Dzikowski wrote.

AFCRA executive director Kerry Stewart responded less than half an hour later attaching "the only document responsive to your request" – a text message exchange between an unidentified person and Geoffrey Stiles, vice president of facilities for the Atlanta Hawks NBA team.

"I just heard a water pipe burst at SFA that will cause vote count delay. Has this affected the AFCRA office? I think they were counting votes next door," the sender, believed by Mr Dzikowski to be Mr Stewart, wrote at 7.42pm.

"No sir – it was highly exaggerated – it was a slow leak that caused about an hour and a half delay," Mr Stiles replied at 7.43pm. "We contained it quickly – it did not spread – we just wanted to protect the equipment."

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There is no suggestion that the confusion around the pipe bursting story is linked to any claims of widespread voter fraud or other conspiracy theories.

State Republicans have also raised concerns about the election, particularly the vote counting process in Fulton County, which takes in the state capital and most populous city, Atlanta.

"Fulton County elections officials told the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation centre at State Farm Arena at 10.30pm on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1am," Georgia Republican Party Chairman David Shafer said on Twitter earlier this week .

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"No one disputes that Fulton County elections officials falsely announced that the counting of ballots would stop at 10.30pm. No one disputes that Fulton County elected officials unlawfully resumed the counting of ballots after our observers left the centre."

It comes after Georgia, a key battleground state where Joe Biden narrowly defeated Mr Trump by just 0.3 percentage points, ordered a full hand recount and audit of the vote.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced on Wednesday that so far 97 counties had sent their final numbers, with Mr Biden leading Mr Trump by 14,111 votes out of just under 4.93 million in the state.

The Republican official, who has come under heavy fire from his own party over his handling of the election, said he would implement a "risk-limiting audit" of the presidential race after the final county certifications.

"With the margin being so close, it will require a full, by-hand recount in each county," Mr Raffensperger said. "This will help build confidence. It will be an audit, a recount and a recanvass, all at once."

[Nov 14, 2020] The Georgia Recount May Be As Corrupt As The Election Itself -

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Authored by Andrea Widburg via AmericanThinker.com,

On Friday morning, Georgia began to recount the votes it received on November 3. However, within a short time, reports came in that the recount process was being conducted with as little respect for transparency as the original vote count. Without that transparency, this recount is a waste of taxpayer time and money.

Before getting to the problem with the recount itself, we need to be sure we're all on the same page about what's happening in Georgia, so some background is necessary. In my post about the two different types of election fraud , I explained that the first type of fraud goes to ballot legitimacy .

That is, was the piece of paper that got fed into the counting machine from a duly registered voter? If not, that vote cannot be counted.

We know from the affidavits flooding in from across the country that the Democrats used the Wuhan virus to justify mailing out millions of ballots to anyone on the voter registers, whether that person had since died, moved on, or lost interest in voting. Because voter rolls are chock-full of such voters, mass mailings meant that thousand, tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of ballots were floating around in mail-in states, free for anyone to grab and submit.

Democrats made this fraud possible because they have steadily chipped away at other election legitimacy gatekeepers, such as identification checks and signature matches. In Democrat-run states, voting became as easy and as vulnerable to fraud as going to a shopping mall, filling out names on slips of paper, and sticking them in a big bucket for a promotional "drawing" for a bike or car. Or, even better, mailing hundreds of completed slips of paper to your buddy at the car dealer for him to put in the bucket. That's how Democrat states ran their elections in 2020.

So here's what's important to know about Georgia's recount: the recount will do nothing to correct this first type of fraud. The process of vetting voters was wholly corrupt, and there is no way to disentangle the illegitimate from the legitimate ballots during the recount.

The second type of fraud involves counting. Data-crunchers have produced powerful evidence that electronic voting machines in contested states were set to switch votes from Trump to Biden. Jay Valentine has an accessible rundown of that type of fraud here . What's good about computer fraud is that, while it can be hidden on a small scale, on a large scale, it leaves unmistakable clues. (You can read more about these clues here and here .) There's strong evidence that the same pro-Biden code that showed up in Michigan also affected votes in Georgia .

In theory, while it won't winnow out illegitimate ballots, a hand recount will at least prevent a repeat of the computer counting fraud. However, that works only if the humans doing the counting don't cheat.

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The best way to prevent humans from cheating is to watch them. Indeed, those of you old enough to remember the Florida recount in 2000 will also remember that the media wandered freely through the counting rooms, getting close-ups of people carefully examining each ballot for those infamous hanging chads. Everyone understood that the point was to get it right.

What happens, though, when the people in charge of the recount, in place of transparency, once again refuse to allow representatives of the parties to audit their work? What happens is this:

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In a brief video that I can't embed but that you can view here , Dick Morris explains that there is more going on than just barring Republicans from observing the vote. In addition, to the extent there are still available envelopes from the mailed in (absentee) ballots, secretary of state Brad Raffensperger stated that the counters would not attempt to match the signatures.

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The refusal to check signatures or otherwise try to validate mail-in ballots has created hugely anomalous rejection rates. Typically, Georgia rejects 3.5% of absentee ballots because they cannot be validated. This year, says Morris, the rejection rate is 0.002%. As Morris said, with nothing more, that discrepancy points to vast fraud.

Not content with removing these fraud controls, Raffensberger also ordered the counties to finish the process by 3 P.M. on Saturday. Georgia received roughly 5 million votes. It's ludicrous to believe they can properly be recounted in one and a half days. This isn't a recount; it's fraud theater.

For more information about what's going on in Georgia, including the Senate runoff, be sure to check out VoterGA.com . That site is all over Georgia's election fraud.

[Nov 14, 2020] Pennsylvania Election Fraud- Evidence of Keystone State Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Regardless of where one falls politically, the sanctity of the vote is a bedrock of a functioning representative democracy. Voters have to believe their vote matters. And that the vote is free, fair, and accurate.

Below we explore the details and the data of what happened in Pennsylvania, nicknamed " The Keystone State ", on Election Day. Elsewhere we explore similar efforts in the key swing states of Wisconsin , Michigan , and Georgia .

Mail-In Ballots in Pennsylvania

Voter turnout was up everywhere. This was expected due to the highly partisan and hotly contested nature of the election. However, there is something worth taking a closer look at in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania -- namely the incredibly lopsided impact that mail-in ballots had on the election.

We're not sure how many mail-in ballots went for Biden in Wisconsin because the data has not been released. However, despite what we were told about how Biden would dominate in mail-in ballots, Pennsylvania is the only place of which we're aware that this was actually true. Biden tended to be up single digits where he was ahead through mail-in ballots. The only places where Biden enjoyed a significant lead with mail-in balloting was Pennsylvania and Michigan . And, indeed, in the Keystone State, former Vice President Joe Biden enjoyed a 55.7 percent advantage in mail-in ballots.

Such a lead might not be noteworthy if it were not so anomalous and indeed, it is -- Michigan , the other state where Biden had a lopsided mail-in ballot victory, had him leading by only 37.9 percent. The next biggest advantage was in Ohio with a comparatively paltry 15.3, the next Arizona at 8.1, with other swing states putting up only single digits.

What's more, Pennsylvania was another state where vote-counting was paused with the Vote Fairy showing up in the middle of the night to drop obscene amounts of ballots, all marked for former Vice President Joe Biden.

Two examples of such dumps were reported on by left-leaning FiveThirtyEight on their Twitter feed: 23,277 votes came in from Philadelphia, all of them for Biden. 5,300 votes in Luzerne County, which includes Wilkes-Barre, with nearly 4,000 of them for Biden. This was on November 4, the day after the election, when the number of outstanding ballots miraculously increased throughout the day.

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Another vote dump went for Joe Biden by a 92-8 margin , something that might have been plausible in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, but not so much in the United States.

Pennsylvania law does not allow for mail-in ballots to be counted in advance, which is rather convenient for anyone seeking to rig an election. Simply wait for the other side to count their ballots, then fabricate as many as you need to put your candidate slightly over the top.

Pennsylvania's Secretary of State, Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat, has stated in the lead up to the election that votes arriving late will be counted and that they don't even require a postmark to do so.

This means that the "ballots" could be sent at any time, from anywhere in the world, but will count for the purposes of tabulating the final vote. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court upheld this decision, which is a flagrant rewriting of state election law from the bench.

James O'Keefe of Project Veritas has found at least two whistleblowers from the United States Postal Service, one of whom was willing to come forward with his real name and work with federal investigators

The whistleblower who came forward with his name is from Pennsylvania and claims that postal workers were instructed to illegally and fraudulently postmark ballots sent after the election so that they could be counted when the ballots arrived.

Philadelphia is known as a bit of a poster child for election fraud in America. As in Michigan, the dead are voting by mail-in ballot. This is nothing new : Joe Frazier "voted" in 2018, while Will Smith's grandfather voted in both 2017 and 2018. We are already receiving reports that the practice of the dead voting in Philadelphia is, pun intended, alive and well in 2020 .

Fully 98,000 people voted for Joe Biden and no one else in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Allegheny County, home of Pittsburgh is home to a rather shocking "irregularity." Full ballots, with the appropriate markings to be read by machines, were available for download for anyone . There was a similar situation in Bucks County .

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito ordered Pennsylvania to segregate late-arriving mail-in ballots, which are currently at the center of a legal controversy in the state. Pennsylvania refused to do so .

Mike Roman, a Trump advisor and election security expert, claims that ballots were being processed and duplicated away from the watchful eyes of Republican observers -- who were notified at 1 a.m. that this process would begin at 7 a.m.

Mail-in balloting is not secure. In fact, it was banned in France in the 1970s for this reason. In the Blockchain era, there is no reason to rely upon such primitive means of voting when one can't make it to a polling station. But Pennsylvania Democrats are using the technological limitations of traditional, mail-in paper balloting for their own political gain.

Watching the Pennsylvania Ballot Counters

Pennsylvania was likewise one of several states where those seeking to watch the vote count, as is their legal right, were chased off by poll workers who preferred to do their work in secret. Indeed, the state Democratic Party went as far as to try and get courts to uphold their expulsion of Republican poll watchers from the counting.

Not that court orders stopped them -- they were caught on camera expelling poll watchers in open defiance of a court order. Likewise, they continued to count undated ballots in defiance of a court order .

Pennsylvania is perhaps in need of poll watchers more than most. As recently as 2015, there was a massive vote-fixing scheme in the city of Philadelphia , orchestrated by the Democratic Party.

It would be naive to expect that elements in the Democratic Party would rig a vote to control property taxes and municipal bond issues, but would not do so to help tip the scale to elect a Democrat to the White House, with all that entails.

There are numerous examples of poll watchers being cordoned off many yards away and having to use binoculars to observe the count , as well as being outright chased off during the ballot counting process .

Indeed, Ron Coleman has done yeoman's work documenting this on his Twitter . Here are three posts in particular that are worth looking at where he summarizes what direct observers and citizen journalists have uncovered with regard to Pennsylvania election shenanigans.

This viral video details how poll workers worked to obstruct legal poll watchers in the state. Jack Posobiec, one of the main forces on the ground for the #StopTheSteal movement likewise has a video of poll workers illegally expelling poll watchers . Poll workers -- the ones who don't want anyone seeing what they're doing -- are involved in the vote "curing" game. This is a process whereby poll workers take ballots and attempt to divine what their intent was to "correct them." The Trump campaign won an injunction against admitting such ballots on November 5, 2020 .

Aaron J. Carpenter, a conservative elected official from Ohio, reported that some 300,000 ballots were counted without a Republican poll watcher present at the time. This brings into question a massive number of votes in Philadelphia alone.

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President Trump has filed suit in Pennsylvania to fight fraud and protect the integrity of the vote in the Keystone State. The suit alleges that a whopping 2.5 million votes might have been fraudulent in Pennsylvania. The suit alleges that:

The Silver Lining: How You Can Fight Back

This is a very grim topic and you are right to be outraged and maybe even a little scared. But we're here to tell you that you don't have to take this lying down. The President isn't and the Congressional Republicans are quickly falling in line. The Utah Attorney General has even taken a temporary leave of absence to join the President's fight to ensure the integrity of American elections.

So what can you, an average citizen do to stop the greatest election fraud in American history?

First, call your elected representatives be they friend or foe. Emails are great, but phone calls are much, much better. You should call your state rep, your state senator, your House Rep and your U.S. Senator. You should also call your state Speaker of the House. This is particularly important if you live in a state like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Michigan or Georgia where there is ample reason to demand greater transparency and a full auditing of all votes.

Be respectful, but firm. Let them know you're not interested in talking points and boilerplate: You want to know what they're doing right now to ensure the integrity of the vote in your state. Let them know that if they want your vote you expect concrete action to ensure that all legal votes are counted -- and absolutely none that aren't.

For those interested in taking to the streets, there is the Stop The Steal movement. In Pennsylvania, this is being headed up by Jack Posobiec of One America News Network and Scott Pressler of #ThePersistence. The movement holds rallies at state capitols and places where votes are being counted to let your elected officials know that you're holding them accountable. What's more, a nationwide rally in DC called the Million MAGA March is scheduled for November 14. The Democratic government of Washington, DC has responded with new COVID restrictions designed to cripple the march.

Pennsylvania Election Fraud: Evidence of Keystone State Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election by Ammo.com 's lead writer, Sam Jacobs , originally appeared in Thought Grenades , the blog at LibertasBella.com .



play_arrow Chuck Walla , 8 minutes ago

"Pennsylvania's Secretary of State, Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat" and bought and paid for Soros stooge.

qdone , 1 hour ago

..... so what ? sure seems like they're getting away with it.

[Nov 14, 2020] It's important for people to realize that media NARRATIVES are created ahead of time to support some of these elections outcomes. They're as fake as the election totals

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The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:42 pm GMT • 22.3 hours ago

@TheTrumanShow 0 votes and that fake story was given as the reason why.

They went for a softer approach in KY in 2019. The first-term Repub Gov had a Yankee's forthrightness so they just latched onto comments he made regarding the underfunded teachers pension program and amped-it to high heaven getting teachers all in a frightful frenzy.

In that solidly Red state, with all other prominent offices on the ballot (AG, SoS, etc.) going overwhelmingly Repub , somehow the Repub Gov loses to the Dem by around 5000 votes. The "teachers pension" narrative was rolled-out as the reason. (Btw, it seems that Dominion, or another type, software was used to switch the votes in that race. I've seen video about it.)

[Nov 14, 2020] FEC Chairman Says He Believes 'There Is Voter Fraud' In Key States -

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FEC Chairman Says He Believes 'There Is Voter Fraud' In Key States


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The chairman of the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) stated that he believes there is evidence of voter fraud and other alleged irregularities.

In a recent interview, FEC Chairman Trey Trainor said reports of fraud in some battleground states are credible "otherwise they would allow the [poll] observers to go in," referring to reports of some polling areas refusing to allow GOP observers to check on the process on Election Day and the days after.

"When you have claims of, you know, 10,000 people who don't live in the state of Nevada having voted in Nevada, you have the video... they're (poll workers) either duplicating a spoiled ballot right there or they're in the process of just marking a ballot that came in blank for a voter," Trainor told Newsmax .

"That's a process that needs to be observed by election observers."

In the interview, he agreed with Trump's campaign lawsuits, while saying that questionable actions by elections officials in several states could make the election illegitimate.

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Trainor, an appointee of President Donald Trump, noted that state laws allow those observers to be there, and "if they're not," then it's an "illegitimate election."

"Our whole political system is based upon transparency to avoid the appearance of corruption," he said the interview while alleging that Pennsylvania and other states have not been transparent. "I do believe that there is voter fraud taking place in these places," he added .

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Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat who is in charge of the state's elections, has denied claims there is fraud or irregularities in her state.

"I swear an oath that I am here to represent, to oversee elections -- fair, free, safe, secure, and accessible elections," Boockvar told the Morning Call newspaper.

"I don't care who is on the ballot. I don't care who is running against them. I want to make sure every candidate has an opportunity to run and win and make sure that every vote for or against them is counted accurately." She added: "And I will fight to the end on behalf of any candidate. I don't care whether I agree with them or I don't agree with them."

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Joe Gloria, the registrar of Clark County in Nevada, rejected the Trump campaign's allegations of voter fraud as well as the claim that 10,000 people voted out-of-state in a news conference last week.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS)'s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency on Thursday concluded that the Nov. 3 election "was the most secure in American history," saying that "election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result." Lt. Frank Drebin , 5 hours ago

The only thing this whole episode has taught me is that there really isn't much of an America, not anymore.

The corruption is so deep and pervasive that it's simply unrecognizable.

Hugh_Jorgan , 5 hours ago

Yeah... in a normal world the FEC saying this would mean all-stop, audit all states with credible irregularities. Today it is just another story for the MSM to ignore, Social Media to censor and the apparatus of the Federal Government to shun.

E5 , 4 hours ago

Creedence is given to former CIA officials who lied to us about Saddam. These "former" intelligence agents who don't have clearance anymore are more credible to the press than acting authorities.

If it barks like a coup, wags a tail like a coup, and ****s on your lawn like a coup... well, it's a coup.

Democrycy , 4 hours ago

Just a quick reminder where you're:

EXCLUSIVE: Twitter's Jack Dorsey and a shirtless Sean Penn take a walk on the beach in Hawaii after testy few months for tech CEO

The mafia octopus is more integrated than you could ever dream of.

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I would suggest to watch the La Piovra series ; English: The Octopus, referring to the Mafia.

Very tragic but must see masterpiece. The story of the series at first follows Commissar Cattani and his relentless fight against the Italian mafia and the corrupt bureaucracy and state mafia in Sicily.

[Nov 14, 2020] The question is: why do neither of the two parties care about election fraud, especially computer-related fraud? Democrats were quick to accept the results in 2000 and 2004 and not raise a stink or demand a transparent, auditable process afterwards. And Republicans haven't cared either.

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JohnH , 12 November 2020 at 11:49 AM

It has been obvious that the US voting system has been an unverifiable black box ever since Bush vs. Gore and Bush vs. Kerry. Voting machines are produced by companies whose ownership is not public knowledge and whose agenda is unknown. And There could well be people or groups outside of these companies with technical skills, access to the software, and the motivation to create mischief.

By design of the system we cannot know if the system has been rigged. Nor can we tell if there are single, centralized manipulators or multiple, localized manipulators, each jockeying for advantage with the machines they have access to or with all the software for a given manufacturer.

The question is: why do neither of the two parties care about it? Democrats were quick to accept the results in 2000 and.2004 and not raise a stink or demand a transparent, auditable process afterwards. And Republicans haven't cared either.

Curious!!! Has each been coopted by a promise to get their share of the spoils?

Verifiable systems are clearly possible. Curiously, it is Venezuela that uses one. Each electronic ballot produces a receipt , which each voter verifies and places in a receptacle where it can be counted. In a large, randomly selected number of precincts, paper receipts are publicly tallied and compared with machine results in the presence of representatives of the candidates. Tallies of the precincts are made public and sent to a central vote tabulation center, which publishes vote counts from each precinct.

Venezuela's system was created as a reaction to a system that had been designed to give the appearance of democracy when in fact the two major parties had colluded to alternate years in power. We have no way of knowing if this is what happens in Washington, or whether outside, covert forces manage the results, or whether the will of the people is actually being reflected by the results.

In any case, it a shameful situation for a country with the audacity to declare itself the world's greatest democracy.

SteveF , 12 November 2020 at 12:46 PM


I'm not a maths nerd, just a computer programmer.

This looks like an algorithm that is in place to trigger after a certain Republican lead is achieved (they don't want to make it too obvious). Once triggered the algorithm transfers some individual votes from Trump to Biden.
As the Republican lead increases, the number of votes transferred also increases.

It's a sort of feedback loop that punishes trump as the Republicans do better.

One of the effects of the loop is to show Biden as an individual having significantly more votes than the democrats as a party.

Another possible effect is (I'm not certain on this one) is that it tends to push the votes for individuals towards a 50/50 split, because you can't take more from Trump than he's actually got. So in heavy Republican states, Trump individual votes can all be skewed to Biden, and Biden get's his own votes.

As I said, I'm not absolutely certain on this second effect, I may be wrong but it certainly looks like that.

Eric Newhill , 12 November 2020 at 01:16 PM

... As a professional analyst of "big data" I can tell you that it is extremely rare in nature/social sciences - like the never happens kind of rare - to see such a tight correlation as we do in the data he presents (the negative correlation between a district's % republicans and % of Biden votes).

It is also rare to the point of being just about impossible for such a phenomenon to begin to abruptly (at the point where a district's republic constituency hits 30%).

I further agree that it looks exactly like someone programmed the counting machines to use the same vote switching logic in all of the districts. This would be easy logic to code. I could do it myself in an afternoon in SQL or SAS and I'm not a professional coder, just a dilettante that has learned to code analytical software. I know my IT guys could do it easily in various coding languages.

So the mail-in voting things was always a red herring and good old fashioned counting machines were always the game.

Do the actual ballots still exist. Should be easy enough for the courts to assess the merits of Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai's analysis and then order a recount on "clean" machines.

Finally, I note that one district in MI has already admitted to counting issues that favored Biden. They said it was a "glitch" in the software. Software doesn't just develop glitches. Code is a physical thing; a script. It can't re-write itself. The glitch explanation is insulting.

Horace , 12 November 2020 at 02:11 PM

Why would anyone NOT cheat?

1) respect for rule of law
2) respect for constitutional governance of rule of law
3) respect for a quarter millennium of American tradition
4) fear of God's judgement
5) fear of legal punishment

The globalists and their socialist handmaidens have none of these. There might be a handful of low-level drones who fear #5, but those fears are overblown. Brenda Snipes was cheating down in Broward for 15 years (thanks Low Energy Jeb!) and merely got fired (finally).

IF they had the means, THEN they did cheat. Democratic forms of governance can produce good governance only when the electorate has a sufficient degree of shared political culture. The culture of most of the world (most Europeans included) is "not cheating outgroups when you can is morally equivalent to stealing from your own group and is therefore wrong."

Harlan Easley , 12 November 2020 at 02:39 PM

I haven't watched the video yet. However, I do a little coding on the side as a side hustle.

The guys I respect say that there is no such thing as a Software Glitch. That software performs as coded or indicated and it is extremely easy to code for counters +1. A caveman could do it.

Any glitch is a red flag for fraud. Also, uploading an update the night before is a huge red flag since there will not be time to real time test for errors.

And last one guy was mocking the pay for a job advertised for Election Software job per hour as insultingly low.

My impression is the experts in the field of coding have little respect for the security of software in the electoral field. This is non-partisan viewpoint from what I can tell.

Patrick Armstrong , 12 November 2020 at 04:10 PM

I have seen the following families of evidence of fraud
1) anecdotes
2) probabilities (Biden getting more votes than Obama only where he needed them, down ballot differences et al)
3) statistical analysis like this, Benford and some others
4) computer nerds looking at the machines (just beginning)
They all point the same way and they all occur in the necessary places.
BUT
1) can you convince objective judges?
2) are there any objective judges?
3) if the judges conclude there was fraud, what to do?

Whatever happens. half the country will be convinced the election was stolen. Then what?

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Fred , 12 November 2020 at 12:25 PM

"hate doesn't go in a straight line" An apt comment by Dr. Shiva's colleague. The Wayne County data is an eye opener. It would be interesting to see them do this same analysis to Washtenaw County.


Sylvia1, That's precisely what they are showing, the heavier the Republican district, the more the algorithm swaped votes. watch the intro of that video again, their explanation and example are pretty good.

Eric Newhill , 12 November 2020 at 01:16 PM

... As a professional analyst of "big data" I can tell you that it is extremely rare in nature/social sciences - like the never happens kind of rare - to see such a tight correlation as we do in the data he presents (the negative correlation between a district's % republicans and % of Biden votes).

It is also rare to the point of being just about impossible for such a phenomenon to begin to abruptly (at the point where a district's republic constituency hits 30%).

I further agree that it looks exactly like someone programmed the counting machines to use the same vote switching logic in all of the districts. This would be easy logic to code. I could do it myself in an afternoon in SQL or SAS and I'm not a professional coder, just a dilettante that has learned to code analytical software. I know my IT guys could do it easily in various coding languages.

So the mail-in voting things was always a red herring and good old fashioned counting machines were always the game.

Do the actual ballots still exist. Should be easy enough for the courts to assess the merits of Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai's analysis and then order a recount on "clean" machines.

Finally, I note that one district in MI has already admitted to counting issues that favored Biden. They said it was a "glitch" in the software. Software doesn't just develop glitches. Code is a physical thing; a script. It can't re-write itself. The glitch explanation is insulting.

[Nov 14, 2020] Some anomalies

Nov 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

kleptomistic , 3 hours ago

Michigan

2,649,063 Trump
2,640,672 John James, Republican for the Senate

8,391 people voted Trump but not James?

2,795,184 Biden
2,725,692 Gary Peters Democrat for the Senate

69,492 voted for Biden but not for the Democrat Senate candidate?


WTH?

In what reality does that make sense?

2020 minus 2016

2,649,063 – 2,279,543 = 369,520 increase for Trump = 16.2% increase.
2,795,184 – 2,268,839 = 526,345 increase for Biden = 23.2% increase!

Did the Libertarians shift to Biden?

172,136 voted Libertarian in 2016
60,344 voted Libertarian in 2020

172,136 – 60,344 = 111,792 fewer Libertarian votes; 65% decline.

526,345 (Biden increase) minus 111,792 (Libertarian decrease) = 414,553 increase for Biden = 18% increase which is not too far off Trumps increase which is more believable.

Again, did the Libertarians vote Biden?

None of this makes any sense.

https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html

https://mielections.us/election/results/2016GEN_CENR.html


[Nov 13, 2020] First Dominion Whistleblower Goes Public, Exposes Illegalities in Michigan

Nov 13, 2020 | welovetrump.com

daniel 12 hours ago 12 hours ago 41.5k views

It's happening!

We know that multiple Dominion whistleblowers are coming forward to the Trump campaign.

Dominion is the software used in Michigan and at least 33 other states.

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The software is alleged to have changed Trump votes to Biden votes.

Rudy Giuliani has confirmed that multiple Dominion whistleblowers are helping with Trump's lawsuits.

Now

At least one whistleblower has gone public with her claims!

Her name is Ms. Mellissa Carone and she is a contractor for Dominion.

Carone was sent to Detroit, Michigan to provide technical support.

She has confirmed that ballots were re-scanned and re-counted at least 4 to 5 times before being discarded.

In this case, the "re-scans" are different from simply trying to get the machine to re-read the ballot.

She appears to allege that this was done purposefully to inflate Biden's vote count in Michigan!

She was reportedly scheduled to appear on Fox News as well.

However, it is rumored that Fox News CANCELED her appearance!

So instead, she made an appearance on a YouTube and podcast channel.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1326621044531204101

Of course, the mainstream media is working overtime to cover up this story.

However, even the New York Times has confirmed that Rudy Giuliani is saying that Dominion whistleblowers are coming forward:

Many of those people have said, contrary to evidence, that Dominion software was used to switch votes. Some people even suggested that the company was doing the bidding of the Clintons, a conspiracy theory that was shared on Twitter by President Trump. On Wednesday, Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president's lawyer, said he was in contact with "whistle-blowers" from Dominion, though he did not provide evidence.

Dominion, originally a Canadian company that now has its effective headquarters in Denver, makes machines for voters to cast ballots and for poll workers to count them, as well as software that helps government officials organize and keep track of election results.

Georgia spent $107 million on 30,000 of the company's machines last year. In some cases, they proved to be headaches in the state's primary elections in June, though officials largely attributed the problems to a lack of training for election workers.

Dominion did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In Antrim County, Mich., unofficial results initially showed President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. beating Mr. Trump by roughly 3,000 votes. But that didn't seem right in the Republican stronghold, so election workers checked again.

It turned out that they had configured the Dominion ballot scanners and reporting software with slightly different versions of the ballot, which meant that the votes were counted correctly but that they were reported incorrectly, state officials said. The correct tallies showed Mr. Trump beat Mr. Biden by roughly 2,500 votes in the county.

In Oakland County, Mich., election officials also spotted an error after they first reported the unofficial counts. They realized they had mistakenly counted votes from the city of Rochester Hills, Mich., twice, according to the Michigan Department of State.

The revised tallies showed that an incumbent Republican county commissioner had kept his seat, not lost it. Oakland County used software from a company called Hart InterCivic, not Dominion, though the software was not at fault.

Both errors, which appeared to go against Republicans, spurred conspiracy theories in conservative corners of the internet. That drew a response from Tina Barton, the Republican clerk in Rochester Hills, Mich., the city that had its votes briefly counted twice.

Democrats investigated Russia for four years.

Why won't they commit to a few weeks to verify the integrity of our election?

We need transparency in our election process!

But Democrats appears to be fighting against that transparency that voters desire!

Trump's latest lawsuit could potentially flip the battleground state of Michigan.

It is requesting that 1.2 million incorrectly filled out ballots be tossed.

If approved, this would be groundbreaking news.

Local Michigan Live news confirms:

Four voters filed a federal lawsuit seeking to exclude presidential election results from three Michigan counties due to allegations of fraud, echoing several other legal challenges brought forward since President Donald Trump refused to concede defeat.

Trump earned 147,000 fewer votes than Democrat Joe Biden in Michigan, according to unofficial election results that are being certified this month by county canvassing boards. The new lawsuit seeks to eliminate ballots cast in Wayne, Washtenaw and Ingham counties, which would amount to 1.2 million votes, giving Trump the lead in Michigan.

Birmingham attorney Maxwell Goss and Indiana attorney James Bopp Jr. are representing plaintiffs in the lawsuit. Bopp serves as a campaign adviser to Trump. He was an Indiana delegate for Trump in 2016 and served as a legal adviser for George W. Bush and Mitt Romney.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan, cites an assortment of allegations made by the Trump campaign, Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel, right-wing media organizations and ongoing lawsuits filed since the election.

Plaintiffs also cite ongoing investigations launched by the Michigan Legislature and a variety of other claims that have been debunked. The allegations include charges of Republican ballot challengers being harassed and illegal tampering with ballots.

Plaintiffs conclude that "this evidence suffices to place in doubt the November 3 presidential election results in identified counties and/or the state as a whole." However, the group of voters also claims to have additional evidence of illegal ballots being included in unofficial results, based on "expert reports" and data analysis.

"Upon information and belief, the expert report will identify persons who cast votes illegally by casting multiple ballots, were deceased, had moved, or were otherwise not qualified to vote in the November 3 presidential election, along with evidence of illegal ballot stuffing, ballot harvesting, and other illegal voting," the lawsuit states.

At least one of several other Michigan lawsuits making similar allegations has been thrown out for lack of evidence and other flaws.

Oakland County residents Lena Bally and Gavriel Grossbard, Eaton County resident Carol Hatch and Jackson County resident Steven Butler are listed as plaintiffs in the new federal lawsuit. Grossbard was a Republican candidate for Michigan's 9th Congressional District, but lost in the August primary.

The lawsuit names as defendants Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and members of the Michigan State Board of Canvassers, Wayne County Board of Canvassers, Washtenaw County Board of Canvassers and Ingham County Board of Canvassers.

Plaintiffs are seeking to exclude votes from Wayne, Washtenaw and Ingham counties. They argue that including results from counties "where sufficient illegal ballots were included" would unconstitutionally cause legal votes to be "diluted."

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[Nov 13, 2020] Some additional information about Scorecard

Nov 13, 2020 | www.woolstangray.eu

Gen McInerney first broke the story on March 19th, 2017 on Dr Dave Janda's Operation Freedom podcast, including the fact that John Brennan, James Clapper, Robert Mueller and James Comey were directly involved with Barack Obama in operating The Hammer as a means of leverage and blackmail their targets. Within moments of this broadcast, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were texting each other about it, as seen in their declassified texts!

The following day, on March 20, 2017, Comey perjured himself when he testified before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that the FBI Counterintelligence Division had "no information" to support Trump's tweet claiming that President Obama had "wiretapped" him.

The Deep State is completely desperate to keep a lid on The Hammer. Since November 2019, former CIA officer, Kevin Shipp has been using platforms like Greg Hunter's USA Watchdog to claim that The Hammer is a fraudulent psyop that pushed its way up to Gen Michael Flynn's the defense team, with the potential of jeopardizing the credibility of his case.

Also, Shipp recently started telling everybody that Q is a nefarious psyop, coinciding with the exact moment when Congress voted to condemn QAnon and its believers – and at just the same moment that YouTube de-platformed dozens of our favorite creators and that Twitter and Facebook terminated thousands of users' accounts.

Here's how nuclear it is on Facebook: When someone asked me about QAnon, I answered with 3 words: "Q is real" and I was instantaneously locked out of my account for 12 hours for making a post associated with "domestic terrorism"!

I always liked Shipp but sadly, I can only conclude that he is a disinformant. Maybe they used The Hammer on him

On September 21, 2020, 30-year NSA veteran, Bill Binney tweeted, "@Kevin_Shipp posted a message today implying I changed my mind about the Hammer program. he did this without talking to me. point is I have not changed my mind on this subject. it still needs to be investigated by AG Barr and Durham."

As for James Comey, we know that he's been aware of The Hammer since at least August 19, 2015, when Montgomery gave 47 hard drives containing over 600 million pages of documents to his office. Montgomery had become a whistleblower upon seeing firsthand how the Obama administration had turned The Hammer against Americans. He received two limited immunity agreements in exchange for evidence production and testimony.

Montgomery says the Obama White House provided 1,200 preloaded Blackberry devices to trusted Obama insiders, including to Hunter Biden and that the FBI and DOJ are in possession of this body of evidence. This would indicate that they have long been aware of Hunter and Joe Biden's espionage activities, such as the sale of a US military technology manufacturer to the CCP via Hunter's private equity company, Bohai Harvest.

Montgomery says the 1,200 BlackBerry devices, similar to those used by Obama and Hillary communicated over a closed encrypted secure network, known as PIN-to-PIN messaging that did not traverse the Internet, operating directly off The Hammer network. Each of those devices could access The Hammer Vault, a secret database of The Hammer's illegally-collected data, including corporate and military intellectual property and US Defense secrets, accessible only to Obama team insiders.

Montgomery's 600 million pages of documents show that for more than four years before the 2016 election, four contractors working for the Obama Administration's FBI illegally surveilled American citizens. Moreover, the FISA court was made aware of this and has communicated its findings to the Justice Department.

SCORECARD

Yesterday on the War Room, Gen McInerney revealed that the Obama administration added an application to The Hammer called Scorecard, which he says, "Changes votes at a certain point in the voting stream – and by the way, the Obama administration used it in the 2012 Elections in Florida and both Obama and Biden are very familiar with this.

In their article published at TheAmericanReport.org on October 31, 2020, Mary Fanning and Alan Jones report :

"The Obama administration illegally commandeered The Hammer and Scorecard. They moved The Hammer to Fort Washington, Maryland on February 3, 2009. The Obama White House had an encrypted VPN in order to access The Hammer at will.

"On December 20, 2015, as part of a summary of information disclosed in The Whistleblower Tapes, The American Report revealed the following on The American Report's official Facebook page:

"Florida voter registration disk removed and new disk inserted for redistricting via "The Hammer" computer system in Fort Washington Maryland via Navy Intel cover (they stole the Florida election via re-districting in Florida? How many other states did Brennan and Clapper do this?)"

Gen McInerney continues, "They used [Scorecard] in the Primaries and Bernie lost to Biden So, it is ready to go. I just found out about this yesterday. Sidney [Powell] played a very important role in assisting me and [journalists] Mary Fanning and Alan Jones in trying to get the word out, so the American people know all this enthusiasm you're talking about in Pennsylvania gets changed very quickly with this software program [Scorecard] that switches 3% of the votes."

McInerney was in the US Air Force for 35 years, where he had an extensive operational career and retired as the Number Three man. He says, "I'm currently in the cloud business now and that's why I'm so intimately familiar with what Hammer and Scorecard can do. And nobody knows it."

Bannon then says, "Hammer was the single most important and the single most sophisticated, basically system that came up after 9/11 for intelligence or really counterintelligence about Radical Islamic jihad and the ability to monitor that. Is that the beginning of how this started? It was a foreign surveillance system that allowed the National Security and intelligence apparatus to watch our enemies. Is that how this thing started?"

McInerney replies, "That's how it started, Steve. Very sophisticated. Very, very capable. It was then adopted with the software packages, like on your iPhone, to the voting business. And it was used in foreign countries. It was then moved over to the CIA and they started looking at US Citizens. That is illegal. The CIA cannot look at US Citizens. Only the FBI, with the proper FISA warrants, etc. Sidney knows all about this. You know all about this.

"And it is extremely important, that this was taken out of the CIA when the Obama administration left. They used some kabuki to get it out. They still have it up and running. We know where it is located. It's active tonight, it's active, they've been looking at a whole host of things – as has the DNC, using false IPs – and they are looking around and they are trying to set up this voting thing that happens on Tuesday night.

"It's gonna look good for President Trump but they're gonna change it. And that's the danger that America and everybody must realize."

Bannon asks Gen McInerney, "Dennis Montgomery he was being rounded up at his house. He had 47 hard drives I think, he had taken from Fort Meade. How does Dennis Montgomery fit into the story?"

"He's a genius," Gen McInerney responds. "And he loves America. Dennis invented The Hammer. Dennis invented Scorecard. He's the programmer that made all of this happen. And he's on our side, at great personal risk, as well as he hasn't benefited financially from it. He's an absolute genius. So, he's extremely important to what's going on.

"It would have happened in 2016, Steve, except something happened to it that night, when the Obama crowd and the Democrats tried to use it. I can't talk about that."

Bannon responds that when he first heard of it, Project Hammer was so compartmented that just the name of the project, itself was classified. He says, given that Gen McInerney is claiming, two days before the 2020 Election, that the DNC is going to try to steal it and given the large amount of Left Wing media watching the podcast, he asks Sidney Powell why this isn't a 'tinfoil hat conspiracy theory'?

Sidney replies, "Well, Gen McInerney has been talking about it for at least three years. A separate source came to me, completely unconnected out of Dallas, that had identified computer replacement of votes and there's a story out about that, from more than a year ago. And then, now, it's coming up again. We've got more verification.

"The point is, the reason this is all happening is because there are trillions of dollars at stake. The Globalists, the Communists, the Marxists, the Chinese Communist Party want to control the world and the power and the dollars that go with it. And hey have to destroy the independence of We, the People and the freedom and leadership of the United States to do that. That's their last big target. We are the end of the line for liberty and freedom and any semblance of justice.

"They will spend any amount of money. They are willing to do absolutely anything to try to continue the graft and corruption that all of the evidence that's now just coming out against Joe Biden exemplifies. It wasn't just Joe Biden. It's probably 80% of our public officials, at least in the Federal Government and many in the States, too

"Look at General Flynn's Twitter feed and look at the articles he's written recently, about how important this election is. And it's not just to this country, it is to the entire world. It is anybody who has any hope for freedom anywhere."

Bannon comments that when Dennis Montgomery gave 47 hard drives with over 600 million pages of documents to James Comey's office at the FBI and he asks Gen McInerney "What was he trying to expose? What should the American people know today on the eve of this election that 250 Flag Officers sent a letter to President Trump, including my old boss, Tom Hayward, that said, 'It's the most important election in the history of the Republic.'

"What is Montgomery trying to tell us? What is the message we need to hear today?"

"Well, he's telling us right now, Steve that we are on the verge of being compromised through cyber warfare. Which he is a master of, he's the most brilliant person in our country on cyber warfare and they have used this. They moved it from the intelligence – a very highly-secure program – and they've moved it from there over to political treachery. And that's what it is.

"When they moved it out of the CIA, they moved it for their political use, as they have politicized the intelligence community, as we saw in the Russia Hoax and what they've done to General Flynn. All these things that you and Sidney have been talking about, that want to change America from what it is. It goes back to the Electoral College, to the Supreme Court. All these things are bundled to change America from being a Democratic Republic to a Totalitarian regime.

"That means a Socialist country, the next step is Communism. That's why there can be no agreement between this Democratic Party and the Republican Party. One choice is freedom. One choice is Communism. It's that simple It is an either-or. If we don't win the election, that will be the last free election this country ever has."

Bannon then says, "Just want the DNC to know that we're going to pull the plug on Scorecard. You're not going to use cyber warfare to steal this election They're not going to steal it because we've got Patriots, like Gen McInerney, Sidney Powell and others, that are on watch, that are on the ramparts 24/7, OK? And we're going to be relentless in this We're gonna get the plug pulled on Scorecard and Hammer. Sorry Brennan, sorry Comey, sorry DNC, sorry President Obama, sorry – not sorry!

" This is the fight of a lifetime. This is the inflection point of the Republic. McInerney's right. We lose this. It's over."

Bannon asks Sidney Powell again, why The Hammer is not a woo-woo conspiracy theory.

She replies, "Well, there's multiple sources that this exists – an absolute confirmation of it. It's even moved off its original site into a private company But Obama, Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Mueller – all know about it; helped create it and know how to use it against the American people.

"There's evidence that any number of judges, I think over 100 judges they collected information on. A lot of lawyers. Thousands of lawyers, including me, I'm told was collected on by it. And businesses, particular businesses, churches. They've gotten names and addresses of people from certain churches, anti-abortion groups. They're using it for their social and political issues."

Bannon asks, "When you're FBI Director, you're gonna clean all this up? Can the American People get your commitment that you're gonna do this?"

"Yes. Regardless of political party. I will be a very Equal Opportunity offender."

"Sidney Powell. You heard it here first."


[Nov 13, 2020] "Scorecard" was developed using the intrusion capabilities of Hammer to focus upon election software.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Joe Pete KaZAamM 2 days ago ,

Dennis Montgomery Developed Hammer after 9/11. Hammer and Scorecard were used in 2012 for Biden and Obama. Just as you say and also used to STEAL from Bernie Sanders this year. Complete Election Fraud

"This software is a CIA spy program designed to use on protected networks
(like voting machines) without detection. It is important to note that
Montgomery claims that in 2009, under then-President Barak Obama, this
software was "commandeered and repurposed" by John Brenan and James
Clapper into a "private and parallel domestic surveillance system."

KaZAamM Joe Pete 2 days ago ,

Brilliant Joe!

Dennis Montgomery is a genius, a real prodigy who worked with the NSA to develop "Hammer".

"Scorecard" was developed using the intrusion capabilities of Hammer to focus upon election software.

It definitely appears that the Dominion computers all had this program running.

Vote switching is its primary feature. The sure-fire telltale signs of Republican totals DECREASING is rampant. It's an impossibility for votes to decrease for any candidate.

The fact that the totals at that given point in time, are universally decreasing for Republicans ONLY and given to Democrats with identical totals is truly alarming.

Many videos are circulating showing these vote switches in real-time. All these videos are proofs. Irrefutable evidence that votes were manipulated to swap votes from Republican votes to Democrats.

Impossible to deny.

Scorecard was used in many elections and Democrat primaries.

Joseph Mack KaZAamM 2 days ago ,

Wish someone would post at least part of the actual malware code. If written properly,the vote tally for the victim would continue to increase, just switching an occasional 'random' vote to the opponents' tally. There would never be an actual decrease in the tally, and there would be no real 'pattern' to discern - very hard to detect by itself unless the actual code was available. I could write more, but there might actually be a 'Non-brain-dead' liberal reading these comments!

Glen Batterham yak_disqus 12 hours ago ,

Would that mean any legislation that those elected by fraudulent means would be put to review?
I mean that if this software fraud investigation goes retrospective and it's found that over time local, state and the federal government's have had illegal candidates sitting will the votes of the illegal candidates be struck from any legislation that they voted on?
Everything should undergo a review. Especially any act that passed by a narrow margin. If say 3 ineligible candidates sat in any particular legislature all bills that passed by 3 or less votes during their term should be reviewed.
Any legislation which only passed because of the addition of ineligible votes could be deemed null and void.


KaZAamM
grizzle 2 days ago
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I've seen those videos. Showed them to many people personally.

I have a couple co-workers who are hardcore Democrats that always call my arguments as being; "conspiracy theories".

Not this time. They were literally floored. Undeniable, irrefutable evidence tends to do that.

It's real. It's definitely hard-core.

Nothing is going to prevent this from going mainstream.

Nothing.

America's Voice Fan DeplorableWoman 2 days ago • edited ,

Seems to be a theme by the "serious conservatives" at Fox News: downplaying the scope and severity of the election fraud. Solomon actually said there was only one glitch in MI and it was resolved in a friendly manner with the county officials. He said there were no other problems with Dominion software as far as he was aware, WHILE Sidney Powell was reporting the same thing as Gateway Pundit - that it was across the country and there is evidence of millions of votes impacted positively for biden because of the software. Hannity didn't challenge him either when the opposite was being reported in other outlets.

5MMs DeplorableWoman 2 days ago ,

He seems to be taking the paper ballot used to stuff the ballot box route based on the statistics along with the data showing large numbers of ballots cast by people who had previously submitted change of address requests yet had not been removed from voter rolls. Seems those type of people would be ripe for targeting for submitting an illegal ballot in their name. Those number is the 100's of thousands....

[Nov 13, 2020] THE HAMMER is the Key to the Coup -The Political Crime of the Century-- How Obama, Brennan, Clapper, and the CIA spied on President Trump, General Flynn ... and everyone else, by Fanning, Mary, Jones, Alan

The book is mixed. Good information often is intermixed with absurd statements. And often authors overplay their hand.
Still if read with a grain of slat one can find interesting, systematized information about Flynn prosecution and Russiagate gaslighting. This information is presented via the prism of Hammer, the newer surveillance system similar to Prism, that supposedly was used by Obama administraqtion to spy on the US citizens including General Flynn, supreme court judges and even members of FICA court.
In February 2009, the Obama administration commandeered a powerful supercomputer system known as THE HAMMER. THE HAMMER includes an exploit application known as SCORECARD that is capable of hacking into elections and stealing the vote, according to CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who designed and built THE HAMMER.
This is a blatant attempt of CIA to steal functions of NSA. Which strongly suggests that Obama was a CIA-democrat.
Nov 13, 2020 | www.amazon.com
On March 19, 2017, General Mclnerney and Admiral Lyons dropped The American Report's expose 011 The HAMMER, the illegal surveillance operation overseen by Obama, Brennan, and Clapper with which they spied 011 Americans and targeted their political adversaries. The radio show is a Live show, and fifteen minutes before General Mclnerney's segment he emailed me that he would be coming forward with time-sensitive information provided with the support of Admiral Lyons.

The information focused 011 an illegal surveillance operation which utilized a platform, THE HAMMER, developed by Dennis Montgomery, which Obama, Brennan and Clapper, with the support of Comey and Mueller, had "privatized" to illegally-surveil political opponents. Their "operation" violated the rights of many hundreds of Americans, including citizen Donald Trump, General Flynn, government officials, and Supreme Court and District Court Judges. General Mclnerney then came on the Live show and delivered the information noted above to the American public. This was the first time this information was presented 011 Radio or TV. I would like to say that the information of the illegal "operation" shocked me .... however, having been involved in health care policy for years and having had "time in the swamp".... it angered me but did not shock me.

The credit for exposing the illegal "operation" THE HAMMER and bringing it to the attention of General Mclnerney and Admiral Lyons should go to investigative journalists Mary Fanning and Alan Jones of The American Report and military intelligence officials who confirmed the illegal "operation." Mary Fanning and Alan Jones have presented information in at least two dozen well researched, well sourced, and very thorough investigative articles on the illegal surveillance parallel platform.

The reaction to the segment was significant. The listening audience demanded that the illegal "operation" be investigated, Deep State operatives expressed displeasure over the information being made public, and for some "reason," my computer immediately after the show malfunctioned and would not allow me to send emails. The screen repeatedly seized. This was not a common occurrence -- this was rare.

Of note, several years after the segment, the Department of Justice released text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, which Tire American Report exposed and built a timeline around. Included in those texts were messages between Strzok and Page on the evening of March 19, 2017 referencing the information General Mclnerney brought forward on the show. Over the ensuing years, there have been those who thoroughly researched the illegal "operation" who are also well-versed and experts in information technology.

The two most well-respected surveillance experts in the world, Bill Binney and Kirk Wiebe, have been supportive of the existence of the illegal parallel platform of THE HAMMER and they in fact have come forward stating that they had also participated in parallel platforms.

Admiral Lyons was an incredible Patriot and a friend who also regularly appeared 011 my show. From March 19, 2017 until his death in December of 2018, he repeatedly told me .... "David, continue to focus on the Hammer surveillance .... it is the key to the coup, the key for General Flynn's Freedom, and the key to Save Our Country.

-- David H. Janda M.D. Host, Operation Freedom

... ... ...

(7) Brennan and Clapper ran THE HAMMER computer system out of a secret Fort Washington, Maryland facility beginning on February 3, 2009, after President Barack Obama took office;

(8) Florida voter registration disks were removed, and new disks inserted by Brennan and Clapper via THE HAMMER supercomputer system, whereby they stole the Florida election via redistricting;

[Nov 13, 2020] The 2020 election- -Scorecard-, Veritas, fraud and coming coup-

Nov 13, 2020 | www.commdiginews.com
Operation "Scorecard" reveals shadowy interference at the polls.According to According to NOQ Report , Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney exposed "Scorecard." The Dems' alleged superweapon for voter fraud. "A CIA program known as "Scorecard" allows its users to change voting outcomes by hacking into the transfer between local reporting stations and state or national data centers. According to McInerney, it's a small amount, under 3%, to keep it from triggering any alarms. He would know. He served in top military positions under the Secretary of Defense and the Vice President of the United States," says QMN.The covert technology "was built by the CIA to surreptitiously steal elections in targeted countries. Now, that technology is being turned against the United States of America and is about to be activated on Tuesday to steal the election for Biden," The covert technology "was built by the CIA to surreptitiously steal elections in targeted countries. Now, that technology is being turned against the United States of America and is about to be activated on Tuesday to steal the election for Biden," McInerney boldly claimed . "This might also help explain why Joe Biden told voters at a recent (small) rally that he didn't "need their vote" to become President, and why Nancy Pelosi says Biden will win no matter what the votes say on Nov. 3rd." Operation Texas Scorecard.Project Veritas is at it again with undercover work to show ballot harvesting. Project Veritas is at it again with undercover work to show ballot harvesting. Newly released footage reveals an operation in San Antonio, Texas, collecting votes for Democrats, a pollster saying to a voter,

Dems' ballot harvesting Minnesota.

In the first of a series of reports, Project Veritas investigators reveal a ballot-harvesting racket in Rep Ilhan Omar's (D) Minneapolis district involving her campaign workers and political allies, In the first of a series of reports, Project Veritas investigators reveal a ballot-harvesting racket in Rep Ilhan Omar's (D) Minneapolis district involving her campaign workers and political allies, reports QMN News . "Whistleblower Jamal Osman, a Minneapolis community leader and chair of the city's Somali Watchdog Group, alleges Omar's involvement, and says that his brother, Liban Mohamed, is one of Omar's "many people." "It's an open secret. She [Omar] will do anything that she can do to get elected and she has hundreds of people on the streets doing that," he told Veritas in an on-camera interview last Tuesday. "Whistleblower Jamal Osman, a Minneapolis community leader and chair of the city's Somali Watchdog Group, alleges Omar's involvement, and says that his brother, Liban Mohamed, is one of Omar's "many people." "It's an open secret. She [Omar] will do anything that she can do to get elected and she has hundreds of people on the streets doing that," he told Veritas in an on-camera interview last Tuesday. "Whistleblower Jamal Osman, a Minneapolis community leader and chair of the city's Somali Watchdog Group, alleges Omar's involvement, and says that his brother, Liban Mohamed, is one of Omar's "many people." "It's an open secret. She [Omar] will do anything that she can do to get elected and she has hundreds of people on the streets doing that," he told Veritas in an on-camera interview last Tuesday. "It's an open secret. She [Omar] will do anything that she can do to get elected and she has hundreds of people on the streets doing that," he told Veritas in an on-camera interview last Tuesday. "It's an open secret. She [Omar] will do anything that she can do to get elected and she has hundreds of people on the streets doing that," he told Veritas in an on-camera interview last Tuesday. Dems deceit fracks election in Pennsylvania.

Rosa:

My polling place in Philly was handing these out. And no, no one handed out a GOP or any other party option. pic.twitter.com/LZ9C2ZYl5w

-- Rosa (@rebellions) November 3, 2020

James Woods:

An individual holding this Certificate was turned away physically at a Philadelphia polling place. That is a crime. pic.twitter.com/dmzBmVtP83

-- James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) November 3, 2020

Terrance K. Williams:

LOOK AT THIS!

ILLEGAL Democrat ballot sign has been taken down in Pennsylvania.

This is why we fight for President @realDonaldTrump #Election2020 #ElectionDay #ElectionNight #Trump2020 pic.twitter.com/L9FQD5RuFk

-- Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) November 3, 2020

TIPers knew the groundwork was in motion with mail-in ballots and all the other tricks that would tip close states to the candidate with no chance of winning on his own. That would be Joe Biden. They don't know Trump, America's top warrior, yet.

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[Nov 13, 2020] Arizona secretary of state rejects GOP lawmaker's request for tests of voting machines

Anybody who believe the Dominion machines (used in Arisona) can't be hacked is iether partisan stooge or an idiot/
Does she own Dominion stock?
Nov 11, 2020 | tucson.com

Karen Fann, Senate president, has asked the state to test voting machines.

Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs said the election was run using laws established by the Republican controlled Legislature. She rejected request to test voting machines.

By Howard Fischer Capitol Media Services

PHOENIX – Senate President Karen Fann is seeking an independent analysis of the testing of Arizona voting machines.

In a letter to Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, the Prescott Republican said she is not claiming there was fraud in the just-completed election.

"But many others are making that claim," Fann said. And she contends that the outside review will put the "current controversy" to rest. Watch now: Ballots processing in Pima County Play Video

But Hobbs said Fann, while professing no belief in fraud, is herself trafficking in conspiracy theories by even suggesting that an extra – and legally unrequired – step is necessary to quell rumors.

"It is patently unreasonable to suggest that, despite there being zero credible evidence of any impropriety or widespread irregularities, election officials nonetheless have a responsibility to prove a negative," she wrote Tuesday in a response to Fann.

"To be clear, there is no 'current controversy' regarding elections in Arizona, outside of theories floated by those seeking to undermine our democratic process for political gain," Hobbs said. "Elected officials should work to build, rather than damage, public confidence in our system."

And the secretary left no doubt about what she intends to do.

"I respectfully decline your request to push aside the work that remains to be done to ensure an orderly completion of this election and instead launch and fund with taxpayer dollars a boundless 'independent' evaluation of 'all data related to the tabulation of votes in the 2020 General Election,"' Hobbs wrote.

Fann told Capitol Media Services there's nothing improper about her request, even absent any proof of fraud.

"There are a lot of questions that the voters have," she said. "And for the integrity of our democracy, why wouldn't we want to get to the bottom of these questions?" Quality journalism doesn't happen without your help.

Support local news coverage, and the people who report it, by subscribing to the Arizona Daily Star .

And if there's nothing there, Fann said, "let's find out what they are and either put them to bed or get those questions answered."

Hobbs said everything being done follows the election laws as established by the Republican-controlled Legislature.

She pointed out the equipment used to tabulate votes can be used only if first certified by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission and her own office, after review by a special State's Equipment Certification Advisory Committee.

Then there are "logic and accuracy" tests on each piece of equipment – tests that need to be done in public – both before and after the election to ensure the machines are properly recording votes.

And there even is a law that requires that 2% of the ballots from select precincts be counted by hand to ensure the tally matches what the machine has spit out. And that is open to party officials who even can video record the process.

All that, Hobbs said, was made public for months before the election.

[Nov 13, 2020] BREAKING EXCLUSIVE- Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems

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BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems By Joe Hoft
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Jimi Headstone Biden is a FRAUD 2 days ago ,

So despite the help from the massive software "glitch", Biden fraud machine had to dump late night dump ballots all for Biden only in a hurry. How bad did he lose? It almost looks like most of his votes are fabricated. I would not be surprised if he were 20 points behind in legal votes.

forgivn73 Jimi Headstone 2 days ago ,

I think the ballot dumping was the side show to keep us from finding out about the vote switching and deleting. How can this be verified, and how can this be seen on the machines now?

Marchioness forgivn73 2 days ago ,

There is a lawsuit by the guy who invented email (not Gore), but the PhD at MIT who invented it is suing for the ballot images...

Ricke Floyd Marchioness 2 days ago • edited ,

Dr Shiva, badass brown guy

TheMarshall Ricke Floyd 2 days ago ,

Badass American of Indian decent (actually was born in India I believe but family came here legally when a young child). Ran for senate in Massachusetts as a Republican and was/is a big Trump supporter. Blew the doors off the Covid 19 scam, not that it wasn't real but how it was being treated and handled by MSM and the Socialist Democratic Party, ie, by those who hyped the whole thing.

Ricke Floyd TheMarshall 2 days ago • edited ,

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Tom Davis Ricke Floyd 2 days ago • edited ,

EventBrite just told everyone that "March for Trump" was cancelled. It is NOT Cancelled.
The Elites / Big-Tech / MSM (including Fox) are TERRIFIED We Will Show Up - doing everything possible to shut us down.
Don't let them. Break their Narrative.
Get to DC or the nearest contested state-house This Weekend, or we hand Biden the WH.

realvoter2012 Tom Davis 2 days ago ,

Million MAGA March is on Twitter use @milionmagamarch. Type only one "l" for million – they have to trick Twitter for censoring them.

Snorpheus realvoter2012 21 hours ago ,

People are using parler. I nuked my Twitter, as have many.

realvoter2012 Snorpheus 19 hours ago ,

I'm already on Parler, will dump Twitter soon.

MikeR Snorpheus 16 hours ago • edited ,

🤷‍♂️ Remember "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN."

I've never used Twitter, Facebook, nor Instagram. I never intend to. I do not have a television in my house. I don't miss it, either.

"People who like to waste hours of their time yakking with people they've never actually met" are an easy-to-reach demographic. But, nothing more.

Santiago Matamoros MikeR 5 hours ago ,

Even if you don't persuade the opposition, you can at least encourage those who need it.

42comment MikeR 10 hours ago ,

Gore wins over Bush

Joseph Mack Tom Davis 2 days ago ,

CORRECTION!! We hand the WH to Kamala, the most leftist (socialist) senator in the Senate! She falls right in line with Hugo Chavez and Nicolás Maduro, Fidel,Stalin and other (in)famous dictators politically. If you are a veteran, have a CFL, have made a firearms purchase from a dealer, etc. - your personal information WILL be found and used to confiscate your arms if these socialists gain enough power. They have already stated that they will rejoin the 'climate accords,' restart 'fair trade' with China, move our embassy out of Jerusalem, restart nuclear 'cooperation' with N. Korea, pass 'common sense' gun laws to protect our citizens (never mind the THOUSANDS of gun laws now on the books that are NOT ENFORCED,) tear down 'Orange Man Bads' border fence, open up our borders to all comers, and amnesty all illegals now in the nation - and that's just for a start.

Michael Hennesy Joseph Mack a day ago ,

You are so right ....but the Marxists better ask the British what happened when General Gage sent British regulars to DISARM AMERICANS at CONCORD . THAT is when the Revolutionary War turned into a REAL SHOOTING WAR .

GenEarly Joseph Mack a day ago • edited ,

Avoidance of War is Not Peace. While I am praying for Honest Election Results that = Trump Victory, the NWO Deep State must be stopped Now.
Marxist democRats and Quisling repubs are Bought and Paid for by their NWO Oligarch Masters.
Never Submit, Never Surrender.
If they mean to have CW, then let it begin with this Coup if it is accomplished in Jan of 21

Second Lite GenEarly 2 hours ago ,

When things go dark, know what to do.

sammi42 TheMarshall a day ago ,

And it is still being hyped big time all for political reasons pro-Biden.

Marianne TheMarshall 2 days ago ,

He also doesn't believe AIDS is caused by HIV... really?! And that we should expand the USPS by having them set up and regulate a national email service. Broken clock, twice-a-day, etc.

Watchman Marianne 2 days ago ,

H.I.V was found to be nothing more than Biologically Inactive Gunk by Nobel Laureate Professor and Cancer specialist Doctor Peter Duesberg and his work was backed up by Nobel Laureate Doctor Carey Mullin. The H.I.V hypothesis proposed by the Fraudulent Doctors Gallo and Anthony Fao-Chi[ yes! That Fao-chi] never passed the Koch Postulates, so they turned to the MSM to pressure the Reagan administration into acceptance of their Hypothesis and that is the most important part of the H.I.V Hypothesis...

42comment Watchman 10 hours ago ,

Wow, I hadn't heard that. Thank you.

America's Voice Fan Marianne 2 days ago • edited ,

Yesterday on hannity's radio show, John Solomon was severely downplaying the software problems. Never trusted that guy. Does anyone ever say, "hey, you have to check out Just the News?!". NOPE.

Nukecell America's Voice Fan 11 hours ago ,

John Solomon was an integral part of uncovering the SpyGate scandal. Just because he says something you disagree with does NOT make him a partisan hack.. He's one of the last investigative reporters left in the U.S.

aaron ortwein Nukecell 10 hours ago ,

He speaks the truth and the truth is that as of now we have zero evidence of wrongdoing other than hearsay. "Data passed around" analyzed by some guy does not cut the mustard in court. Actual proof is needed and as of now we are just spouting BS. I am not delusional as most of you and understand that as we sit we are losing big time. He does not say everything I need to hear......WAAAAAAAA.

America's Voice Fan Nukecell 11 hours ago • edited ,

I don't really trust him after watching him on Lou Dobbs A LOT. He squirms out of tough questions. I agree about the investigation into obamagate with Sara Carter. Why is he now putting a liberal (UNTRUE) spin on the software problems?

aaron ortwein America's Voice Fan 10 hours ago ,

No spin, Just the truth. The evidence as of now would get thrown out of court as it is hearsay. Get the data looked at by a real analytics team not some random guy sitting in his basement.

DadintheBurbs Ricke Floyd 2 days ago ,

He ran hard against Pocahontas up here in MA. Brilliant man! Someone had to step up with indisputable proof and stop this charade now! OT: Watched a bit of Tucker Carlson tonight...the bosses got to him. He's talking about senile Biden's virus response. No Tucker, President Trump is in charge.

DG Canelli DadintheBurbs 2 days ago ,

I agree! Tucker was singing the praises of FNC several nights ago about their truth telling...what garbage! Tucker can go too with FNC, I'm done with them!

JONES DG Canelli 2 days ago ,

That was before election night. Before the election panel showed their a$$.

gi joe DG Canelli 2 days ago ,

Lets not forget that Tucker even stated himself that Hunter Biden was a good friend of his ... Did you guys

miss that statement he made ? and then stated that he would no longer discuss the laptops that were

discovered. And by the way, don't hear a word about that anymore !

Second Lite gi joe 2 hours ago ,

I don't hear a word from Fox anymore. I must be fickle.

America's Voice Fan gi joe 11 hours ago ,

I read an email on the laptop from Tucker to Hunter the day after he said that on his show. It was just thanking Hunter for writing a letter of recommendation to Georgetown for someone. Nothing bad, but Tucker would not touch the photos on the laptop of incest with underage family members.

[Nov 13, 2020] Basically, Barr cut Pilger and Election Crimes Branch out of the picture as "gatekeepers" to starting investigations in places like Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Atlanta.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Lee , says: Next New Comment November 10, 2020 at 11:44 pm GMT • 2.3 days ago

@annamaria p>

What happened today, and what prompted Pilger to "quit" was that AG Barr said to US Attorneys – "If you have substantial allegations of election fraud in your district, you have authority to investigate that." Basically, Barr cut Pilger and Election Crimes Branch out of the picture as "gatekeepers" to starting investigations in places like Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Atlanta.

https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/10/pay-not-attention-to-the-drama-queen-at-doj-who-resigned-after-barr-authorized-us-attorneys-to-investigate-fraud-n277710

[Nov 13, 2020] One possible reason for stoiing the counting on election night

Nov 13, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Aloha_Snackbar , 3 hours ago

And all the strange ballot dumps after the election including a single batch in Philly with 23,277 votes all going to Joe Biden.


They stopped counting on election night so they could look at the voter rolls to see who hadn't voted; they then used this information to create a bunch of fraudulent ballots for many of the real people who didn't actually vote including dead people and people living out of State. They had the post office backdate these fraudulent ballots created after the election.

[Nov 13, 2020] Who were the people in control of these ballots? What is their paper trail? Where did they come from? Who signed for them and took control of them?

My take is that the whole matter was thus engineered at the highest possible levels working through agencies of the Deep $tate
Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Tony Hall , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:54 am GMT • 4.1 days ago

This Corona-facilitated criminal conspiracy in the 2020 elections might be of even larger proportions than the awkwardly covered up (Hunter) Biden Crime Family saga. The filthy corruption of the lying mainstream media is, in a way, a non-partisan story. The media misrepresentation of the most obvious truths in our midst does great damage to everyone including Republican and Democrats. Its the Big Media/Big Tech dissemblers of decent reporting on the real human condition that menaces average people the most; that puts our very lives at wrongful risk; that calls most urgently for the enforcement of provisions outlawing the serial frauds of the most guilty parties. The biggest story of our times is that media venues regularly deceive its viewers to serve and facilitate organized crime.

Wally , says: November 9, 2020 at 6:01 am GMT • 4.1 days ago

Some important & additional sources of information on the obvious fraud:

VIDEO: The President's lawyer, Sydney Powell, explains the massive, historical vote fraud that has occurred and predicts that Trump will win the election in the end .

https://www.bitchute.com/embed/91a5pmm4xylL/

Election Fraud Evidence Piles Up / handy links to numerous sources:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/election-fraud-evidence-piles-up/
plus:

"Who were the people in control of these ballots? What is their paper trail? Where did they come from? Who signed for them and took control of them? What Trump/Biden split did they convey? Was it statistically probable or improbable? Had they already been counted? Has their legitimacy been established? Did observers have access to them before delivery and after delivery? Why were they delivered at that time? Did this delivery coincide with deliveries elsewhere in other states?"

How They Stole the Election : https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/vasko-kohlmayer/how-they-stole-the-election/
There is Undeniable Mathematical Evidence the Election is Being Stolen :
https://theredelephants.com/there-is-undeniable-mathematical-evidence-the-election-is-being-stolen/

Tor597 , says: November 9, 2020 at 10:28 am GMT • 3.9 days ago
@AReply You are what's called a usefull idiot. The GOP doesn't care about anyone but Isreal and the elites on Wallstreet. Every 4 years the GOP pretends to care about poor white people and they show some colored people to show "look we are not racist."

But to say the GOP really cares what everyone thinks and is inclusive to a fault is ridiculous. How brainwashed are you?

The problem with Magatards like you is the inability to separate fantasy with reality. You really think Trump is the god emperor who is fighting pedophiles and you will believe anything other Trumptards throw up on YouTube.

Lol at the GOP by definition being conservative. Trump is a liberal who grew the size of the government.

No Friend Of The Devil , says: November 9, 2020 at 10:39 am GMT • 3.9 days ago

My feeling on election fraud is two-fold, first – Politicians have been cheating and lying in Everything that they have done, so to have the election being the sole thing that they do not cheat and lie about, particularly when the stakes for them are at the highest point, would be clear signs of a delusional individual, or at least a fool with clouded judgement, and secondly – I have no stake in this election since both candidates have violated and have committed to violatimg my constitutional rights, in addition to violating the rights of others around the world through wars and sanctions based on outright lies. It is of no benefit for me to try to claim that the results of the election were in violation of democracy if that democracy has democratically and illegally decided to violate my constitutional rights, and if that democracy has also democratically decided to wage war and sanctions on others based on lies, it can then be equated with a democratically decided gang rape, of which I happen to be one of the many victims, and choosing one group of gang rapists over another group of gang rapists is something that would not be in my best interests.

Andrea Iravani

AndrewR , says: November 9, 2020 at 10:56 am GMT • 3.9 days ago
@Anatman

At least in corrupt third world societies, no one has any illusions about what their society and government are.

Sally , says: November 9, 2020 at 11:32 am GMT • 3.8 days ago

Brett Titley nails it.. The purpose of allowing a private media to control the discourse space of the public is "to circumvent the intelligence of the voter..".. but there is more its purpose is to trick, fool, subvert and divert and so forth .. the sensory inputs that allow the voter to use his or her intelligence..

skeptic23 , says: November 9, 2020 at 11:36 am GMT • 3.8 days ago

As stated above, there is no longer any pretense of a "fair election" in the USA or that the USA is a "democracy".

I believe that was the most important message they wanted to send to us and why the fraud was so blatantly obvious and the media censorship so heavy-handed.

Combine the above with their "Antifa" thugs and "covid19" lockdowns and you have the totalitarian state for all to see.

skeptic23 , says: November 9, 2020 at 11:46 am GMT • 3.8 days ago

What this author may have failed to consider is that all "judges", by whomever appointed, are members of the USA establishment and have a stake in the perpetuation of a myth that there is not and could not exist systemic and systematic voter fraud in the USA.

put this myth next to the myth that the USA is not a massive and ongoing global war crime operation no member of the establishment will ever utter that equally blatant truth.

GMC , says: November 9, 2020 at 12:09 pm GMT • 3.8 days ago

Everything is done for the Deep State dba MIC, Globalist Corps. Wall Street, International Banking , Intel Agencies etc. not for the populace. Forget Democrat or Republican – there are none – only a pigment of your imagination. Name 50 politicians who haven't been recruited or Allowed to stay in office, if they didn't pledge allegiance to Israel, the NWO , the MIC etc. You can't because there is no peoples Government . If there was an Honest peoples Gov. the FCC would have yanked all the MSM licenses – long ago , Wall Street, the Banks and the Pentagon would have been neutered , with the Federal Reserve on probation. The movie Matrix is more real than most think – without the special effects. The Covid virus is just another Government induced 08 and on Depression – and guess who is back in the WH , to make sure things go smoothly for the NWO – Obama, Killary , Biden and Company. How many " Democrats" did this for the good of their " Country " ? And how many did it for Themselves ?

The Spirit of Enoch Powell , says: November 9, 2020 at 12:47 pm GMT • 3.8 days ago
@Tor597 nal guy but he is really losing it with the election fraud narrative. Leaving aside whether or not this was indeed a fraudulent election or not, what even it there to gain for Whites? Trump hasn't done diddly squat in relation to things like affirmative action, social media overreach into politics (via partisan banning and censorship) and immigration.

The only real benefit to Trump was that he radicalised the rank-and-file of the White voter base, the problem is that much of the radicalisation was towards absolutely destructive ideologies like the QAnon theory.

The only thing that will be lost will be Trump's politically incorrect statements, but we will have Biden's senile gaffes to make up for that I guess.

sonofman , says: November 9, 2020 at 12:53 pm GMT • 3.8 days ago

Question: As in most other cases of election fraud, if the obvious mail-in and software evidence is accepted as proof in the swing States being contested, can the Supreme Court overturn the entire 2020 results and order a new election that would also include the Senate and House elections in all States?

That would really doom the Democrats.

trickster , says: November 9, 2020 at 1:21 pm GMT • 3.8 days ago

Its always entertaining to see how people get a dose of their own medicine. The US has been active for the past 100 years or more cocking around with rigging elections and supporting dictators in other parts of the world. Not only putting them in power but supporting these fucks with taxpayer money. How many millions of people have been most unhappy to see some scumbag they hate propped up as Leader Maximus courtesy of Uncle Sam.

The chickens have been circling for a long time and finally come home to roost. How do US citizens now like the taste of their own cough syrup ?

And all thos immigrants flocking to the US courtesy of the puppet masters in DC, here is a news flash. The golden years of the US are done. If you expect to make it here and attain the American dream let me assure you that you are the wrong person, in the wrong place at the wrong time and under the control of the wrong people.

How stupid can these immigrants be coming to the US to be flunkies, gophers and virtual slaves to the Corporate world. Stay where you are people. We already have enough pizza delivery boys and the coffee shops are already filled to capacity by unemployed dubs names Abdul, Mbongo and LeMArco.

Even bloggers with Russian names, mushroom level intelligence and brandishing big swords are barely making ends meet and have to shack out in West Coast tents living hand to mouth.

How are you going to make it here ??

The Alarmist , says: November 9, 2020 at 1:22 pm GMT • 3.8 days ago
@Wizard of Oz

I'd be surprised if Trump doesn't feel the need to flee the jurisdiction, since he and his family, regardless of rightfully or not, will be the first Presidential family pursued in the criminal courts after leaving action to settle a political score. The message being sent is that those not welcomed into the club enter at their own peril.

Brett Redmayne-Titley , says: Website November 9, 2020 at 1:33 pm GMT • 3.7 days ago
@God's Fool

Indeed. You point out the lynch pin in whether opposition to this election fraud will be successful, money and Trump's character. Although this is now the perfect situation for Trump to do what he promised four years ago "drain" of at least "expose" the swamp, Trump is first and foremost a selfish opportunist.

Trump however has a massive ego and I witnessed this when I was in the press corp. for many Trump campaign stops. It is this ego that Americans on the side of America are betting on, since Trump will absolutely hate the prospect of flying off into the blue just before the inaugural.

Cheers!! B.R-T.

[Nov 13, 2020] This was a few months back but a judge in New Jersey ordered a new election over main in voter fraud. So it may yet happen here.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:33 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago

This was a few months back but a judge in New Jersey ordered a new election over main in voter fraud. So it may yet happen here.


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/cbjQTIABIbVM/

[Nov 13, 2020] EXCLUSIVE- Based on Reports By Auditors, IT Specialists, Data Analysts, and Statisticians - The Number of Illegitimate Votes Identified In Four Swing States Are Enough to Overturn Election

Nov 13, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

In a little over a week, groups of volunteer IT specialists, Data Analysts, Auditors and more, have uncovered enough potential fraud to overturn the 2020 Election.

Over the past week, groups of professionals have gathered to ensure election integrity was present in the 2020 election. These groups of Trump and America loving patriots are working on their own time and digging into election data to identify potential evidence of fraud. Despite the MSM promoting a group of 'experts' claiming this was 'the most secure election ever ', the real evidence indicates a total different story.

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In just a week we have uncovered enough potentially fraudulent activities and votes to overturn the 2020 election.

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Shockingly, Pennsylvania may have been worse. (See the Trump team complaint in Pennsylvania for proof.)

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There are enough legal issues identified to date to indicate this was the most corrupt election in US history.

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Today we can say that there is enough information presently available on the potential fraudulent activities that when quantified would overturn the election.

The biggest potential fraud identified to date is related to the data coming from the voting machines themselves.

After we had identified a number of anomalies where votes appeared to be 'switched' from President Trump to Joe Biden, a group of experts dug into election data and found this was not an innocent mistake. By using election day data, this group found millions of votes removed from President Trump and placed in the Biden column. (This data is now being reviewed but our initial results are consistent with the group's reporting.)

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The President took note of our report on this matter yesterday:

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There are other items already identified and quantified by others. One report isolated Biden only votes from the election which were so large and outside of expectations that they clearly are not reasonable and should at least be reviewed for signatures:

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Another group identified more than 43,000 invalid out of state voters in key swing states:

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When only accounting for these votes, there are enough votes to overturn the results in four key states and ultimately overturn the election:

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These votes have not been confirmed by the Trump team or the states, so they are not final. There is also ongoing work on dead people who voted, felons who illegally voted, and more. Democrats have a history of committing voter fraud, so there is more to do.

Don't listen to the corrupt and dishonest media which never praises the President's efforts or reports on his successes and always sides with corrupt perpetrators. Already there is enough information to overturn this election. Skip in 5

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[Nov 13, 2020] Dr. Dave chats with Gen. Tom McInerney about recently discovered information regarding voter fraud

Possibility of hacking into and changing voters counts in the US electronic election system does exist. To what extent CIA penetrated it remains unclear, but judging from some presentation the system is deliberately kept very vulnerable to exploits via patchwork of shady private companies involved. Yes you got it right, the equipment for the USA election is not run by the USA government, it is run by private companies, including Amazon.
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I wish they'd stop with the Hammer and Scorecard BS. Unless they have proof, trying to suggest that the CIA swayed the election just makes all the other more legitimate claims sound like more nonsense.

There are real issues already here, like crates of ballots being brought in and opened in sealed rooms, observers being banned, voter count and patterns being way off normal, ballots being found in garbage or burned, etc. Dozens of reports.

Why would they do all that other stuff when some CIA puke can fire up a program that just alters the counts on the fly? Trump's people need to focus on the real issues, trying to blame everything under the sun just makes them look exactly like the sore losers the left is saying they are.

This really is about more than just Trump. If the media and Democrats aren't willing to stand for fair elections, the rest of the country needs to see it and do something about it.

CherokeeRose Not Woke Yet, But I'm Hoping Link Posted: 11/10/2020 1:43:19 AM EST Originally Posted By IronBalaclava:
JUST IN(11/8/2020):

Absolutely excellent podcast with Lt Gen. Tom McInerney a couple days BEFORE the election, regarding the use of Project Hammer's Scorecard application to steal votes:

In this expedited upload edition of the Operation Freedom Radio Show [November 1 2020] Dr. Dave chats with Gen. Tom McInerney about recently discovered information regarding voter fraud:

For those with short attention spans, it's only 23 minutes. Please listen in, copy, paste and spread the word:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7x7ypu

Original link with article:

THE HAMMER BACKSTORY Gen McInerney first broke the story on March 19th, 2017 on Dr Dave Janda's Operation Freedom podcast, including the fact that John Brennan, James Clapper, Robert Mueller and James Comey were directly involved with Barack Obama in operating The Hammer as a means of leverage and blackmail their targets. Within moments of this broadcast, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were texting each other about it, as seen in their declassified texts!

Steve Bannon & Lt. Gen Thomas Mcinerney on the CIA/NSA Hammer ScoreCard SIGINT Program:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTtC2TRytV4

In February 2009, the Obama administration commandeered a powerful supercomputer system known as THE HAMMER. THE HAMMER includes an exploit application known as SCORECARD that is capable of hacking into elections and stealing the vote, according to CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who designed and built THE HAMMER.

THE WHISTLEBLOWER TAPES, confidential audio recordings released by U.S. DIstrict Judge G. Murray Snow's courtroom in November 2015, revealed that SCORECARD was deployed by the Obama team against Florida election computers to steal the 2012 presidential election on behalf of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

SCORECARD is now being activated to steal the vote on behalf of Joe Biden once again.

Biden utilized THE HAMMER and SCORECARD while running for Vice President in 2012. Votes are again being stolen on Joe Biden's behalf as he runs for President of the United States in 2020. This time, SCORECARD is stealing votes in Florida, Georgia, Texas, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, and Arizona, according to Montgomery.

https://www.kdrtv.co.ke/usa/trump-and-gop-allege-hammer-and-scorecard-software-use-to-rig-elections-in-usa/

[Nov 13, 2020] Timeline for Hammer - The American Report by Mary Fanning and Alan Jones

Nov 10, 2019 | theamericanreport.org

"THE HAMMER is the key to the coup" U.S. Navy Admiral James A. "Ace" Lyons (Ret.) proclaimed to U.S. Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas Mclnerney (Ret.). Admiral Lyons, who led the largest military command in the world as Commander of the U.S. Navy Pacific Fleet, spoke those words to General Mclnerney one final time as General Mclnerney sat beside Admiral Lyon's deathbed.

Dennis Montgomery designed and built THE HAMMER foreign surveillance supercomputer to keep America safe after 9/11. Montgomery is a software designer and computer expert who worked as a government contractor for the CIA, FBI, NSA, and Defense Department.

According to military sources, THE HAMMER was a powerful foreign surveillance tool intended to monitor terrorists and other foreign adversaries.

On February 3, 2009, at the beginning of President Obama's first term, John Brennan and James Clapper illegally commandeered the foreign surveillance tool known as THE HAMMER and transformed it into a domestic surveillance system that went operational at a secret government facility at Fort Washington, Maryland.

Montgomery became a whistleblower to expose Brennan and Clapper's illegal use of THE HAMMER for domestic surveillance.

Brennan and Clapper illegally spied on Americans, including President Obama's political enemies, using that domestic surveillance data for "blackmail" and "leverage," as disclosed in "The Whistleblower Tapes" and by Montgomery.

Robert Mueller's FBI supplied the computers for THE HAMMER, according to The Whistleblower Tapes and according to Montgomery.

Brennan and Clapper used THE HAMMER to spy on Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, 159 Article III
judges, FISA Court Presiding Judge Reggie Walton, members of Congress, Wall Street executives, Rudy Giuliani, Lt. General Michael Flynn, Donald
Trump, Trump Tower, multiple Trump businesses, and members of the Trump family, according to Montgomery. Montgomery asserted that Brennan
spied on Donald Trump because the CIA feared Trump. According to The Whistleblower Tapes, Brennan and Clapper wiretapped Donald Trump "a
zillion times."

In an interview with his attorney Montgomery said, "There has been a wiretap on Trump for years.

August 2015, FBI Director Comey took possession of 47 hard drives of illegal surveillance from Dennis Montgomery under two limited immunity
agreements. According to Montgomery, the 47 hard drives proved Brennan and Clapper had Donald Trump under illegal surveillance.

December 2015, after the FBI verified the 47 hard drives, Montgomery received greater immunity. Montgomery provided testimony inside a
Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) at the FBI Washington DC Field Office while under oath and being videotaped, for three and
one half hours, before Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Curtis and FBI Special Agents Walter Giardina and William Barnett.

March 4, 2017, President Trump on Twitter accused President Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower.

March 7, 2017, WikiLeaks dumped CIA Vault 7 that confirmed the existence of THE HAMMER (HAMR).

[Nov 13, 2020] Why Did Six Battleground States with Democrat Governors (Except One) ALL Pause Counting on Election Night- And How Was This Coordinated by Jim Hoft

Nov 13, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

There are several reports on Election night that five battleground states quit counting on Election night. NewsMax pointed out the coincidence of it happening in those five states with Democratic governors (except for Georgia) with Trump ahead before the "pauses." Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia and Nevada mysteriously quit counting after midnight.

We reported on this late at night on election night!

00:56 01:30 TRENDING: EXCLUSIVE: Based on Reports By Auditors, IT Specialists, Data Analysts, and Statisticians - The Number of Illegitimate Votes Identified In Four Swing States Are Enough to Overturn Election

The liars at Far Left Politifact later came out and said the counting did not stop in these states. As usual Politifact is only telling half the story. It's what they do. Fact-check that! In Georgia and several states on election night the officials announced they would resume counting in the morning. It was a head fake. In Fulton County Georgia elections officials told the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.

This happened over and over again. Why? Why did this happen at 11 PM on Election night? Democrats knew they were getting trounced. Who organized the call? Americans have a right to know this.

[Nov 13, 2020] I think those fake polls are meant to add some plausible deniability to the election fraud so that no reasonable person would question a result that conform exactly to what the polls said we should expect.

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Nicolas , 12 November 2020 at 10:08 AM

"Methodological error? No. A deliberate information operation designed to discourage Trump voters."

I think those fake polls are meant to add some plausible deniability to the election fraud so that no reasonable person would question a result that conform exactly to what the polls said we should expect.

[Nov 13, 2020] Michigan Election Fraud- Evidence of Wolverine State Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election - Zero Hedge -

Nov 13, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Michigan Election Fraud: Evidence of Wolverine State Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election


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Regardless of where one falls politically, the sanctity of the vote is a bedrock of a functioning representative democracy. Voters have to believe their vote matters. And that the vote is free, fair, and accurate.

The basic facts of the 2020 American Presidential election are concerning because mounting evidence indicates there's been a concerted effort by state Democratic Parties to flip the election from President Donald Trump to former Vice President Joe Biden in a number of key swing states with the help of notoriously corrupt Democratic Party machines in at least five American cities -- Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, and Atlanta.

Here are the basic facts of the case: On Election Night when America went to bed, President Trump had a commanding lead in virtually every swing state, as well as Virginia, which no one expected him to win.

However, when America woke up the next day, we found that he'd lost these leads, largely on the basis of mail-in ballots found in the middle of the night and out from under the watchful eye of legal election monitors.

What's more, these massive caches of votes – almost all of which were for former Vice President Biden – came via large dumps primarily from the five aforementioned cities in states predominantly run by Democratic governors.

When one looks at the statistical likelihood of the reported turnout, the numbers are so improbable they're more at home in a one-party state like Saddam Hussein's Iraq or North Korea.

At the national level, there are some discrepancies worth looking at: Republicans won 28 of 29 competitive House seats and Democrats were unable to flip a single state legislature . Joe Biden secured a scant three of the so-called "Bellwether Districts" that almost always choose the winner, one of which was in Delaware. Judicial Watch found 353 counties in 29 different states who had higher than 100 percent turnout .

Evidence of chicanery has poured in from a variety of states -- Pennsylvania , Michigan , Georgia , Wisconsin , North Carolina , Texas , New Jersey , Nevada , and Arizona . This evidence could easily be dismissed as simply weird if one is being generous or naive.

However, it is our belief that this mountain of data, much of it dissolute and unconnected to one another, when taken in toto paints a clear picture of voter fraud on a scale so large that it is unthinkable that it happened in the United States.

Below we explore the details and the data of what happened in Michigan, nicknamed " The Wolverine State ", on Election Day, which had some of the most flagrant and sloppy irregularities of any of the swing states, largely centering around Wayne County, the place where Detroit is located – a city notorious for voting irregularities favoring Democrats. Elsewhere we explore similar efforts in the key swing states of Pennsylvania , Wisconsin , and Georgia .

All of the posts in this series will be updated as more credible information is uncovered.

Is Michigan the Most Corrupt State in America?

Michigan might take the dubious honor of having the most corrupt elections in America in 2020. As of November 9, the FBI has opened up two investigations into voter fraud in the state. Affidavits have been filed alleging a scheme to backdate mail-in ballots . It is the land of massive vote dumps that go 100 percent for Joe Biden (which the controlled media has attempted to retcon as a "glitch" or "clerical error") , of thousands of dead people voting , of United States Postal Service officials coercing postal employees into backdating the postmark on ballots . And, of course, remember that this is the state that was shut down by executive fiat by Gretchen Whitmer, who eventually had her executive overreach invalidated by the state Supreme Court .

A single computer "glitch" awarded 6,000 votes to Biden and the Democrats that were supposed to go to President Trump and other Republican candidates. With 47 Michigan counties using this software, similar glitches might yield a discrepancy of hundreds of thousands of ballots -- or even more. Perhaps this "glitch" was one of the more innocuous ones. Another glitch returned a Republican incumbent to office after he "lost" to his Democratic challenger.

We use "glitch" in quotes because these types of things seem to be a running pattern in the state and appear to always benefit the Democrat candidate. One other, and far more important, example of this was the "glitch" that awarded 138,000-plus votes to Joe Biden . It was one of these monolithic vote dumps we keep talking about.

Over 138,000 votes tabulated and not a single one of them went for the President (or, for that matter, Jo Jorgensen or Howie Hawkins or Kanye West), a statistical impossibility. It was later corrected when hordes of Internet denizens found the vote dump and wondered how it was possible, even under the basic laws of statistics.

This is hardly the only example of "mistakes" benefitting Biden or suspicious reported totals in the State of Michigan. Take, for example, Antrim County , where President Trump beat Hillary Clinton by 30 points in 2016 but had now swung back to Biden by 29 points. County officials vowed to investigate what they called "skewed" results.

Even prior to the 2020 election back in October, city officials in Muskegon found that there were registration irregularities .

A suit has been filed in the state of Michigan based on a sworn affidavit from a Michigan poll worker -- not an observer. Among other things, this suit alleges that poll workers processed ballots with missing signatures, coached voters on who to vote for (Joe Biden), and were instructed to backdate ballots.

How deep is the rabbit hole of "computer error" in Michigan? Sidney Powell, counsel for one General Michael Flynn, appeared on Lou Dobbs' Fox Business News program and explained that she believes that programs like HAMMER or SCORECARD were used to change as much as 3 percent of the result . While this is merely speculation at this point, it is worth noting that Steve Bannon also floated this possibility on his show, War Room.

The final results of the city of Detroit are worth looking at: Joe Biden was able to receive a whopping 93 percent of the vote in a year when Donald Trump doubled his share of the vote among the black population. Again, this is a normal amount of the vote to receive if your name is Joseph Stalin or Saddam Hussein or Idi Amin. It is not normal by any standard in the United States, especially in large metropolitan areas.

For context: In 2016 Hillary Clinton received 519,00 votes in Wayne County . In 2012, Barack Obama received 595,000 votes . Joe Biden, one of the least exciting candidates in modern history, received 587,000 votes , despite there being fewer people in Wayne County. This despite significant minority turnout for Trump in 2020 .

Somewhere between 69,000 and 115,000 voted for Joe Biden and no one else in the State of Michigan.

Such things don't pass the smell test, much like the dramatic difference between the vote tallies in similar rural counties in Ohio and their Michigan counterparts. These were uncovered, once again, by the watchful eyes of citizen journalists and Twitter denizens, not the government officials who are supposed to be safeguarding our elections.

Michigan, like Wisconsin and other states that have seen electoral chicanery, prohibits the counting of mail-in ballots prior to Election Day. This is a convenient fact of life for those who want to steal an election. They can simply allow the votes to be counted, then tabulate how many they can fabricate for the purpose of putting their candidate over the top.

Florida does not have this feature and Donald Trump was able to win it comfortably. When Florida goes right, the upper Midwest generally does as well. It is the true bellwether state, having selected every President since 1996 . Indeed, 1996 is the only time it hasn't since 1960.

As we mentioned, the dead seem to be voting in Michigan. One Twitter user kicked off a trend of people checking to see if their dead relatives had voted via absentee ballot in the state. Many users reported that, in fact, their relatives who had been dead for 20 years or so had somehow requested absentee ballots, then filled them in. This is not a case of someone who died during Coronavirus having their ballot received. This is about 118-year-olds voting. One enterprising individual was kind enough to compile an entire list of dead voters in Michigan in 2020 . It is voluminous. The Michigan Secretary of State has stated that such ballots will be thrown out at counting -- but are they? And how many are there?

Michigan is one of several states with a voluminous amount of ballots that went for Biden only -- no one was interested in the down ticket races. Michigan found a difference of just 7,131 votes between Trump and GOP Senate candidate John James, but the difference between former Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Gary Peters was a staggering 69,093. This was not the case in non-swing states .

Finally, there is the small matter of postal workers being ordered to backdate ballots so that they could be processed as if they were legitimate. This occurred both in Michigan and in Pennsylvania, according to whistleblowers working with James O'Keefe of Project Veritas. The Michigan whistleblower has not, at present time, been contacted by federal authorities, though the one in Wisconsin has been.

Watching Michigan Poll Watchers

Another dubious honor taken by the Wolverine State is being the most aggressive anti-poll watcher state . Poll watchers were denied access at a number of polling locations . Ballot counters boarded up windows and obscured them with pizza boxes when the poll watchers attempted to watch through windows.

Finally, a state health official was unleashed to use (what else?) public health concerns related to the Chinese Coronavirus to disperse the crowds. Most of this happened in Detroit, a city firmly under the control of a Democratic Party machine. Another viral video showed poll workers cheering every time a Republican was ejected . Poll workers then attempted to intimidate a woman who had been filming these events . At least one poll worker even bragged on Facebook about throwing out Trump ballots.

It's no wonder the poll workers in Detroit don't want to be watched. There are a number of highly egregious irregularities with regard to the handling and delivery of ballots in the state. One Twitter user documented the arrival of 130,000 ballots in the dead of night , all of which just so happened to be for former Vice President Biden.

Steven Crowder reported on strange behavior around polling stations where unmarked vans pull up, drop off boxes and suitcases of votes into secure areas, then disappear into the night. Perhaps the worst part of this is that the integrity of all of the votes of this district has now become compromised -- it will be very difficult to tell the illegally dropped ballots from the legitimate ones. Chuck Woolery likewise reported on a 38,000 vote drop in Detroit in the dead of night .

Michigan is no stranger to getting ballot counts wrong when counting lots of mail-in ballots: In August 2020 it was found that 72 percent of all of Detroit's absentee ballots were counted incorrectly . Whether this is an honest mistake or outright fraud is unimportant for our purposes. What is important is that, without independent auditing, we cannot trust the results of the election in Wayne County, Michigan.

All of these irregularities are even more damning in light of revelations that vote-counting machines in Michigan and several other states were connected to the Internet during the election . This means they are inherently insecure.

We did, however, get one piece of welcome news from the Mitten: The Attorney General of the state had to officially request that protesters stop telling poll workers to stick Sharpie markers up their butts. She later used her office to threaten citizen journalists documenting the election theft.

The Lawsuit: Michigan Voters Fight Back

A lawsuit was filed in the State of Michigan to protect the integrity of the vote. There are a number of shocking allegations in the lawsuit, testified to under sworn affidavits. You will be hearing a lot of talk in the coming weeks about how sworn affidavits aren't evidence, but this is, strictly speaking, not true. These types of affidavits are used in court proceedings all the time.

Some of the allegations in the lawsuit include:

One of the sworn affidavits in the suit corroborates stories of tens of thousands of unverified ballots showing up through unofficial channels in the dead of night. Additionally, Attorney General Bill Barr has begun an investigation into widespread voter fraud across the nation at the federal level.

Richard Pilger, director of the elections crimes branch in the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section, has resigned in protest , something he didn't do when he was gladly helping Lois Lerner harass the Tea Party and other conservative organizations with the IRS .

Despite the claims that there is "no evidence" for voter fraud in the Wolverine state, Ronna McDaniel has presented 131 affidavits alleging over 5,000 individual actions of voter fraud .

Take Action Today and Save America

While all of this is a bit scary and disheartening, the fight is far from over. President Trump hasn't given up the fight and Congressional Republicans are starting to fall in line to support him. A number of figures in conservative media are circling the wagons to denounce this obvious fraud.

That's all great, but what can you do to stop the theft of the election and the end of the American republic that will result from it?

As it turns out, the average person can do quite a lot. First, you should call your elected representatives. That means calling your state rep, your state senator, your House Rep and your U.S. Senator. You should do this be they friend or foe -- either way, they need to know that you insist on having every legal vote counted.

You should likewise insist on them telling you what concrete steps they are taking to ensure the integrity of the vote. Do not settle for boilerplate. A Twitter account has made what is actually a very good script for you to follow when you call in. Be firm, but polite.

The Michigan State Legislature is taking action to ensure the integrity of the vote there . However, they have to continue to feel the pressure from their constituents. Let them know that you're not going to be satisfied with formalities and half-measures.

For those who want to take to the streets, there are opportunities for that as well. Stop The Steal is the movement dedicated to putting bodies in the streets of our nation's state capitals to let our elected officials know that we are not going to stand for seeing our elections stolen in a manner befitting Zimbabwe. There are almost daily rallies at the state capitol building and the TFC Center in Detroit. What's more, a nationwide rally in DC called the Million MAGA March is scheduled for November 14. The Democratic government of Washington, DC has responded with new COVID restrictions designed to cripple the march.

What can you do? Quite a lot. Nothing less than the future of the country is at stake. If they can steal this election, don't expect another one to be free and fair. But do expect a lot of gun grabs and speech laws.

Michigan Election Fraud: Evidence of Wolverine State Chicanery During America's 2020 Presidential Election by Ammo.com 's lead writer, Sam Jacobs , originally appeared in Thought Grenades , the blog on LibertasBella.com

, 8 hours ago

So nice to see people not discouraged by the relentless gaslighting from MSM.

Stand up and fight, shoulder to shoulder. We have kids, maybe they even have kids!

I am old enough to duck, but I won't bend my neck to these bastards.

Not in my lifetime!

qdone , 8 hours ago

..... very happy with your comment.

The First Rule , 5 hours ago

PA, MI, WI, NV, have experienced Off-The-Charts Vote Fraud.

AZ and GA to a lesser extent.

The reality is that your vote doesn't matter (due to cheating). And that the vote is FAR FROM free, fair, and accurate.

Boing_Snap , 5 hours ago

Not in my lifetime either.

Here's an interesting panel that proves the electronic counters manipulate data.

Led by an MIT Phd and software engineer, a panel of experts give a layman's description of the Michigan fraud.

They prove that an algo was introduced with very obvious diagrams of plotted data.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ORYcBEIpY4ni/

Gunga , 7 hours ago

We are at an inflection point in the history of America. If we do not correct the voter fraud we have seen in this presidential election we will not have another honestly counted election. The democrats have told us they will stack the supreme court with political hacks, do away with the electoral college, use COVID as an excuse to take away our Constitutional rights and use climate change to regulate everything not otherwise controlled. Joe Biden said "We are going into a long, dark winter." I do not think he was talking about this winter season. He was talking about this period in American history. It is delusional to think any election will be honestly counted if we do not resolve the fraud in this presidential election. The fight is now. Future generations will curse our laziness and stupidity if we do not begin to fight for our Constitutional Republic now.

The First Rule , 5 hours ago

"If we do not correct the voter fraud we have seen in this presidential election we will not have another honestly counted election."

+1000000 VOTES

Chupacabra , 4 hours ago

"Correct" the voter fraud. Yeah, we definitely need to make some "corrections" in this country. If you know what I mean.

Savagegrace , 2 hours ago

see my comment.....

chubbar , 8 hours ago

IT Contractor for Dominion Ballot Counting Software Co. Exposes Massive Ballot Fraud in Detroit Michigan

Posted on November 12, 2020 by sundance

If what Ms. Mellissa Carone outlines is true, this would explain how the ballots in Michigan were manipulated. Ms. Carone was a contracted worker for Dominion a company providing software services for ballot counting machines in Detroit.

Carone was sent to Detroit, Michigan, to provide technical support for the ballot counting process. While she was there she noted poll workers repeatedly double scanning ballots to generate multiple votes from the same batch of ballot sheets. When she reported this to her employer, Mr. Nick Ikonomakis of Dominion, Carone was told it was not her role to review what the poll workers are doing; essentially to ignore it.

Ms. Carone also witnessed election workers filling out ballots, fraudulently signing ballots, as well as the unloading of vans in an area of the Detroit election tabulation facility she was not permitted to inspect. Ms Carone was on Fox Business with Lou Dobbs to explain part of what she witnessed.

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Ms. Carone gave a longer interview – see here – which has more information. It is always challenging to interpret the validity of whistleblowers; however, Mellissa Carone has some specific details that provide credibility

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baloo , 6 hours ago

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Donald J TRUMP won it by a landslide!!!

TheRapture , 5 hours ago

Good! The more lawsuits, recounts and audits, the better. Healthy for America. Let's make sure Trump gets his day in court. There is a 6 to 3 Republican majority on the U.S. Supreme Court, and three of the justices were appointed by Trump. Let's hope Trump challenges vigorously, demands recounts and files plenty of lawsuits. After it's over, of course, if Trump is not the winner, then he should gracefully accept defeat.

SumTing Wong , 5 hours ago

And two of them are Obama appointees (the least qualified of all the justices and biggest political hacks.) See where all of this is heading?

Chupacabra , 4 hours ago

I would just point out that the entire concept of "Republican" vs. "Democrat" or "liberal" vs. "conservative" Supreme Court justices would be anathema to the Founding Fathers and the fact that it has been internalized and accepted as normal is Exhibit 187 in my peition to dissolve the United States. Divorce is inevitable, might as well man up and get it over with.

Savagegrace , 2 hours ago

unfortunately, I also believe that is coming.

This nation is only a sick shadow of what we were in the early 20th.

The new great depression is nigh upon us, Be Prepared!

the Boy Scout Motto...

CheapBastard , 7 hours ago

<<< Judicial Watch found 353 counties in 29 different states who had higher than 100 percent turnout . >>>

Dead people helped Biden win. No doubt about that.

I already emailed and called both my senators and told them to get off their asses and get involved in supporting the investigation and supporting Trump. One is a lazy MOFO. The other one is already helping out.

The Mystic Seer , 8 hours ago

Dem's aren't concerned, and the MSM IS BURYING IT as long as their guy is ahead. SO CLEAR and that's terrifying.

Justapleb , 35 minutes ago

So stupid of dems to think that "they" won.

Totalitarians, once in, will put them under the boot heel just the same. They "won" nothing but making slaves of us all.

mtl4 , 6 hours ago

If you don't have fair elections you end up with a banana republic, the US is truly at a crossroads......bend but don't break!

tlnzz , 7 hours ago

Election integrity is gone. Where do you go to get that back?

SmedleyButlersGhost , 1 hour ago

Cabelas?

Arch_Stanton , 7 hours ago

Do the people of Flint have potable water, yet?

rkoen , 7 hours ago

I'm sure they still voted for Biden...one way or another.

Chupacabra , 4 hours ago

Stupid is as stupid does. Didn't that Jabba the Hut looking guy who makes movies about Orange Man Bad grow up there?

BulkBeing , 7 hours ago

Excellent article! There is an abundance of evidence that Trump was re-elected.

We need to make sure the ones prosecuting these lawsuits are not sabotaged.

rkoen , 7 hours ago

Outside of SCOTUS nullifying the election and requiring standards by each state before proceeding with a new election, there is no way to correct such massive corruption--democracy is dead in America.

sweet-but-sour-saucy , 7 hours ago

Its quite clear now that the Dems are in it for themselves. The evidence is everywhere.

President Trump has awakened the 'America Firs't mantra. Thinking people voted Republican.

The ballot needs to have integrity - but it has now been found sorely lacking.

Michigander , 8 hours ago

What a sad state if affairs we have in here in Michigan. Whitmer is a Democrat Hack and will do anything, say anything, and offer up her constituency to the gods of the mask. I don't want to wish what little of my life is left for me, but two years from now cannot come quick enough.

Savagegrace , 2 hours ago

I feel your pain, as a new Hoosier, and former lifelong Michigander,

I'm happy that I made to move out of there to relative freedom in Indiana.

My car insurance was cut in half! And that just for starters.

elctro static , 47 minutes ago

Sydney Powell is one kick-butt attorney. If anybody can get justice for Trump, she can.

I wonder what Tom Fitton is up to.

The Donald should de-classify everything now, and get Assange out of the torture chamber.

Mareka , 1 hour ago

Not fond of the headline term "Chicanery".

Like "Shenanigans", "Mischief" or "Antics" it fails to convey the sinister, criminal activity that took place.

Let it Go , 3 minutes ago

Good point! Just because some participants viewed it all as fun does not change the fact it is extremely illegal.

Let it Go , 7 minutes ago

The mass media continues to claim there is no proof of "rampant voter fraud" but fail to point out that in a close election a few votes matter.

The Democrats picked where to attack and attack they did. In these areas one or two percent makes the difference between winning and losing.

overmedicatedundersexed , 25 minutes ago

mega march on DC this Saturday...be there if at all possible

gorghast , 2 hours ago

This systemic fraud destroyed itself in the trust & soul of AMERICA at that moment when pizza boxes started to exclude observers‼

Who gave the pizza box order!?

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One crack in the system, is all it takes.

Like a leak in a pipe it is impossible to determine exactly how much water washes away! Suffice it to say that merely EVIDENCE of the leak (not the amount of water leaked¹) is enough to nullify the voracity of a count!

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¹water leaked = impossible to determine!

Olebole , 2 hours ago

Zimbabwe

Aireannpure , 10 minutes ago

Make it a peaceful protest for Christ's sake!!

Thought.Adjuster , 24 minutes ago

one poll worker even bragged on Facebook about throwing out Trump ballots.

I threw out some Trump ballots too!

You now need to add this comment and ZeroHedge to your " evidence ".

Waiting On Godot , 56 minutes ago

Best video illustrating hard evidence of voter fraud- via Dominion algorithm.

https://youtu.be/Ztu5Y5obWPk

Savagegrace , 2 hours ago

Heads must roll........................

panhead20 , 3 hours ago

tRump lost too many of his supporters to COVID-19. There was no fraud that changed the outcome of the election. The only fraud is tRump.

Savagegrace , 2 hours ago

your handle aptly describes your intellectual capability.

sweet-but-sour-saucy , 7 hours ago

But wait..

Pennsylvania matters too...

[Nov 13, 2020] Processing includes the verification of signatures and postmarks, removing the inner envelope from the outer envelope and removing the ballot from the inner envelope. Ballots are typically secured with numbered seals and a log is kept of the seal numbers to detect any inappropriate access

An interesting question is how many ballots that were not returned can be faked and submitted for the chosen candidate. You need just a couple of people to bypass all security checks and after ballot is anonimized there is not any chance to detect that it was fraudulent.
There is not special box like in case of human voting with paper ballots that is opened by commission.
But with voting machine so insecure the jury and so hackable is out on which form of votes is less secure. At lest here is some paper trial. Also hacking can occur downstream when votes are redistributed before entering into the database.
Nov 13, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com
garry.brewster 19 June, 2020 cont - Ballots must be postmarked no later than Election Day or returned to a ballot drop box by 8 p.m. on Election Day.

If you fail to sign the ballot declaration, or the signature on the ballot declaration does not match the signature in your voter registration record, your county elections department will contact you.

Ballots are typically secured with numbered seals and a log is kept of the seal numbers to detect any inappropriate access. All vote-by-mail ballots (also known as absentee) are kept in secure storage while not being processed. ALL ballots are counted including Absentee and Military!

Processing includes the verification of signatures and postmarks, removing the inner envelope from the outer envelope and removing the ballot from the inner envelope. Ballots are typically secured with numbered seals and a log is kept of the seal numbers to detect any inappropriate access.

Most counties allow you to track your ballot each step of the way: Has it been mailed to you? Has the county received it back? Has the signature been verified and the ballot counted? Just as in 'early voting' allowed in some states ..... mail in ballots start coming in soon after mailing and peak right before the election.

Election results are NOT delayed by VOTE by MAIL!

In the 2012 General Election, 23.3 million cast civilian or military absentee ballots . in 2016 24.8 million absentee ballots were cast ..... that is VOTE by Mail Snikkerz 26 April, 2020 Would it surprise anyone if they learned that the ballots harvested from GOP households were unceremoniously destroyed, with only Democrat ballots being turned in to be counted? rjbell 12 May, 2020 In the article, "California legalized ballot harvesting" is a hyperlink which goes to a broken link ( https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-what-is-ballot-harvesting-in-california-election-code-20181204-htmlstory.html)

[Nov 13, 2020] 28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections by Mark Hemingway

Apr 24, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

Between 2012 and 2018, 28.3 million mail-in ballots remain unaccounted for, according to data from the federal Election Assistance Commission. The missing ballots amount to nearly one in five of all absentee ballots and ballots mailed to voters residing in states that do elections exclusively by mail.

States and local authorities simply have no idea what happened to these ballots since they were mailed – and the figure of 28 million missing ballots is likely even higher because some areas in the country, notably Chicago, did not respond to the federal agency's survey questions. This figure does not include ballots that were spoiled, undeliverable, or came back for any reason.

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Although there is no evidence that the millions of missing ballots were used fraudulently, the Public Interest Legal Foundation, which compiled the public data provided from the Election Assistance Commission , says that the sheer volume of them raises serious doubts about election security.

These questions are particularly relevant as the COVID-19 pandemic is forcing states across the country to rapidly expand vote-by-mail operations in an election year. Democratic Sens. Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden have proposed the Natural Disaster and Emergency Ballot Act of 2020 , a bill that would allow every eligible voter the opportunity to vote by mail, regardless of state laws governing mail-in ballots.

A significant increase in mail-in voting this fall could greatly incentivize "ballot harvesting," where third parties collect mail-in ballots on behalf of voters and deliver them to election officials. There's long been a consensus that such a practice incentivizes fraud, and ballot harvesting is illegal in most of the country. Public debate over the issue has intensified in recent years after a GOP operative in North Carolina was indicted for crimes related to ballot harvesting in 2018.

That same election cycle California legalized ballot harvesting , and observers say the practice played a key role in ousting several Republican congressmen in Orange County in 2018, a longstanding GOP stronghold in a state that has become very liberal in recent decades.

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The fact that millions of unused mail-in ballots are floating around in every election cycle "is not a secret type data here – it's sitting there on the Internet, and you're paying for the server cost," notes Logan Churchwell, a spokesman for PILF. "So what do people that really focus on the election process do about that? They go into ballot harvesting. If there's so many ballots out there in the wind unaccounted for by election officials, surely some manpower could be dedicated to go bring them in. And that's another part of the system where you have weaknesses and risk."

To illustrate the risk, Churchwell notes that in 2016 Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by garnering over 2.8 million more votes than Donald Trump. But nearly 6 million unaccounted mail-in ballots were never counted in 2016, more than twice her margin in the popular vote. The potential to affect elections by chasing down unused mail-in ballots and make sure they get counted – using methods that may or may not be legal – is great.

There's little doubt that as the number of mail-in ballots increases, so does fraud. A 2012 report in The New York Times noted that voter fraud involving mail-in ballots "is vastly more prevalent than the in-person voting fraud that has attracted far more attention, election administrators say. In Florida, absentee-ballot scandals seem to arrive like clockwork around election time." According to a Wall Street Journal report on voter exploitation in Hispanic communities in Texas, mail-in ballots have "spawned a mini-industry of consultants who get out the absentee vote, sometimes using questionable techniques." Poor, elderly, and minority communities are most likely to be preyed upon by so-called ballot "brokers."

Concerns about fraud in mail-in ballots were serious enough that a 2008 report produced by the CalTech/MIT Voting Technology Project recommended that states "restrict or abolish on-demand absentee voting in favor of in-person early voting."

"The convenience that on-demand absentees produces is bought at a significant cost to the real and perceived integrity of the voting process," the report added. "On the face of it, early voting can provide nearly equal convenience with significantly greater controls against fraud and coercion." Similarly, another academic study done in 2008 from Reed College flagged various concerns related to absentee voting and conceded there is a "great deal of literature on turnout" but when it comes to mail-in ballots there is "a dearth of research on campaign effects, election costs, ballot quality, and the risk of fraud."

Despite these concerns, five states – Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Utah, and Hawaii – now do all elections exclusively by mail. Supporters point to smooth elections in these states as proof that it works. But PILF obtained voter data from Oregon, the first state to adopt voting by mail exclusively, for the 2012 and 2018 elections and checked it against census data. Of the 7 million ballots the state sent out in those two elections, some 871,000 ballots are totally unaccounted for.

Losing only one of eight ballots, as opposed to the national average of one in five, may be the result of Oregon having a more accurate listing of voters' addresses than many other states, but that's still a very high percentage of missing ballots, and Oregon would not reveal its data for the 2014 and 2016 elections for reasons the state would not disclose.

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Regardless, U.S. Census data confirms that 11% of Americans move every year, and voters on the lower end of the economic scale are especially transient. Without implementing some extensive, and likely problematic, government surveillance program, there's no way for election administrators to reliably get ballots to tens of millions of Americans every election cycle without a large percentage of ballots going to the wrong address. This problem is compounded by states that mail ballots automatically. (The author of this piece is from Oregon, where ballots with his name on them were sent to his parents' address for years after he graduated from college and moved out of state -- despite repeated contacts with the county clerk telling them he had moved.)

The inherent problems of mail-in voting are being widely ignored, however. Use of mail-in ballots more than doubled from 24.9 million in 2004 to 57.2 million in 2016, and around 40% of U.S. votes are now done by mail. Along with this dramatic increase there have been virtually no new safeguards, scrutiny, or additional research on the risks of vote by mail. If the current pandemic is going to force the issue during a presidential election, proponents of voting by mail may have to address obvious risks that come with proposing that more than 200 million ballots be mailed out this fall.

"I really think the only reason vote-by-mail problems are not getting more attention on a regular basis, is that it's kind of an embarrassing problem and people just aren't paying attention," says Churchwell. "These numbers of missing ballots demonstrate large voter list maintenance failures and security gaps within the broader mail voting process."

Mark Hemingway is a writer in Alexandria, Va. You can follow him on twitter @heminator. Brian in Arizona 24 April, 2020 Having lived in CO for five years, I voted by mail in a couple of elections. It was simple to do, but I was always left with two nagging questions:
  1. Was my vote ever counted at all?
  2. What administrative controls are in place to insure that all votes are counted "accurately? How does the election commission insure that errors or deliberate mistakes are not made? To protect voter privacy, ballots are separated from the identifying outer cover so no one can ever know how someone voted. But this opens the door to errors and fraud within the vote count process.
Rosa1984 24 April, 2020 The focus should be on proving the Legitimacy of mail-in & absentee votes. Every mail-in and absentee vote should be SCRUTINIZED. Pollworkers have been arrested, charged, even jailed.....for filling-out multiple absentee ballots. That's already been an issue. Blank Ballots should NOT be handed-out like candy. All ballots should be numbered and cross-referenced with a registered voter, and accounted for.

Vote harvesting should NOT be allowed at all.
CrazyHungarian 24 April, 2020 Mail in voting is only as accurate as the accuracy of the voter registration list complete with accurate addresses. We all know that voter registration lists are fire with errors, dead people, duplicates, moved out of state, etc. JamminToTheTruth 25 April, 2020 The article talks about two different things as if they're both problems. Only one of them is. Ballot harvesting is a problem which needs to be stopped. But "unreturned ballots" in itself is not a problem. In fact, an 80% return rate is actually EXTREMELY GOOD. Also, ballots are generally only good for one specific election. Having millions of expired ballots out there is not a problem. Seems like someone trying to manufacture a crisis. Unfettered_Reason 24 April, 2020 Mail in voting is a joke. Just another manufactured crisis by democrats to distract from real issues affecting the American Public. The whole notion of Voter Suppression was just debunked by a lengthy Harvard Study proving Voter ID has no impact on turnout. Everyone should be required to vote in person, military excluded, show a picture ID, and vote only on election day. It worked pretty well for a couple hundred years....Just sayin' Rosa1984 24 April, 2020 That's not the problem. Boxes of absentee ballots have been found in trunks of cars and in backrooms, after elections. NEVER cast, NEVER counted. The other problem with absentee-ballot and mail-in voting is how long it can take to receive the ballot. My husband requested absentee ballot in a recent election and it took 3 weeks from the time he requested it-- until he actually received it. Keep in mind, too, your mailman knows whether you're Republican or Democrat, by the mail you receive PC is fascism 24 April, 2020 Anyone who will not generate a bit of effort to get to the polls in timely fashion probably should not vote anyway. The same imbeciles who camp out in front of a store overnight waiting for Black Friday sales or spend three days on line waiting to buy concert tickets, are often the ones who claim that getting to the voting booth is too great an inconvenience. We ought to have accommodations for seriously disa

[Nov 13, 2020] What Is Bill Barr Going to Do by Larry C Johnson

Mail-in votes is rampant with fraud.
Nov 13, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

There are a lot of Trump supporters who are very frustrated, even angry, with the silence of Attorney General Bill Barr in the wake of last Tuesday's attempted Democrat heist of the Presidential election. But there are indications that Barr, who understands what it takes to fight the entrenched bureaucracy that is aligned with a conspiracy that involves the media, tech companies and computer software companies supplying voting machines, is preparing to move in a dramatic, far reaching strike to expose this fraud.

Let us start with Barr's contentious interview with Wolf Blitzer.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/bWGOu3WV3Mk?feature=oembed

I have a dear friend who knows Barr very well. Rarely does he show this kind of visceral anger. I find it difficult to believe that in the ensuing two months, Barr has decided to curl up into a fetal position and allow the Republic to be eviscerated.

Now look at the actions on Monday. Barr, following DOJ protocol, sent a letter authorizing federal prosecutors across the U.S. to pursue "substantial allegations" of voting irregularities. That same day, the DOJ official in charge of voter fraud investigations, Richard Pilger, resigned .

Pilger is a compromised deep stater. I believe his resignation was, at a minimum, encouraged by Barr. In tandem with the DOJ moves, President Trump fired Secretary of Defense Espers. The reason, I believe is simple–Trump wanted to ensure he had someone running the DOD who was not going to meddle in domestic politics. Trump followed up by installing Kash Patel , a National Security Council official and former congressional aide as chief of staff to new acting Defense Secretary.

Trump and Barr are not rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. They are making sure that loyal people are in place who will ensure that the orders of the President are enforced.

To understand what Barr is preparing to confront you must understand the following. I will put it simply–there was an organized conspiracy to interfere in the Presidential election and thwart the will of the voters.

First, six states stopped counting the votes on election night at approximately the same time. Five of the six are ruled by Democrat Governors.

Second, millions of dollars flowed to Black Lives Matter and then were re-routed to Act Blue, which in turn deposited this money into the coffers of the Democrats. This was not legal. It is criminal for a "charitable" organization to divert those funds to political campaigns. This is a money laundering charge.

Third, hundreds of thousands of ballots suddenly appeared in the middle of the night in several of the contested states where Trump was ahead. In Michigan , for example, over 200,000 ballots for Biden appeared magically. Pennsylvania's mail in ballots show similar problems :

More than 20,000 absentee ballots in Pennsylvania have impossible return dates and another more than 80,000 have return dates that raise questions, according to a researcher's analysis of the state's voter database.

Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out -- an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date.

Fourth, ballots also were filled out for voters without their knowledge and did not reflect their true choice:

A number of Pennsylvania voters were furious last week they they found that their mail-in ballots had already been filled in for Democrats when they got them. Bower said the ballots that were already filled out and arrived at homes 40 miles apart, which he says means they are not isolated incidents. "They literally stole my vote," said Delmas Fike. Fike said when his mail-in ballot arrived, each Democrat was already selected.

Fifth, the voting machines were controlled by entities closely tied to Democrats and the far left :

Lord Mark Malloch Brown, a George Soros lieutenant, whose company Smartmatic , is intimately tied to Dominion Voting Systems who flipped votes from Trump to Biden. His machine was used in all the swing states. This would explain the MICHIGAN 200,000 vote sudden dump of Biden ballots , while WISCONSIN got a 100,000 Biden vote dump late night delivery.

Dominion Voting Systems is equally compromised:

Dominion Voting Systems has ties to prominent Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Bloomberg reported in April of last year that Dominion Voting Systems hired a high-powered lobbying firm that includes a longtime aide to Pelosi. They hired Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck. Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi's former chief of staff, is one of the lobbyists on the account.

In 2014, Dominion was listed in the Washington Post table as having donated between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

Sixth, the media and social media companies made no pretense of opposing Trump and favoring Biden. The major media polls falsely and wrongly claimed Joe Biden had an enormous lead over Donald Trump :

In his latest podcast with son and pollster Jeremy Zogby, John Zogby said that polls showing a bigger Biden lead are using a bad model, one that includes far too many Democrats.

His model follows the partisan turnout in 2016 that was about 34% Republicans and about 38% Democrats.

"We believe that is a more accurate reflection of the turnout model," he said.

But others showing a big Biden lead over-weigh Democrats. "Now some of the polls that have come out, I find troubling," he said, citing CNN, Fox, and YouGov. They give an average 15-point advantage to Democrats. CNN had it a 16-point lead.

Most of the polls, especially those used by Fox, CNN and MSNBC and the rest of the media, were absurdly wrong. Methodological error? No. A deliberate information operation designed to discourage Trump voters. Fortunately, the Trump crowd ignored this propaganda.

Twitter and Facebook dropped all pretense of providing a free forum for discussion. They clamped down, and continue to do so, on any one who dares challenge the social media meme that the vote was fraud free or tries to present information not favorable to Joe Biden.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Wednesday was locked out of her personal Twitter account for sharing The Post's bombshell cover story on Hunter Biden's alleged hard drive and an email linking Joe Biden to his son's job at a Ukrainian energy company. "Your account has been locked," a message from the social media network informed McEnany, whose account has more than 1 million followers.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/kayleigh-mcenany-locked-out-of-twitter-for-sharing-posts-hunter-biden-story/

Twitter said that it locked President Trump's account on Monday after the commander-in-chief violated company policies by sharing the email address of a New York Post columnist in a chirp. The social media giant confirmed to the Daily News on Tuesday that the coronavirus-stricken President's account was locked until the post was removed.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-president-trump-twitter-locked-ny-post-20201006-gnv5wacehfd5fantuv4hiv2rpm-story.html

And Twitter even blocked the fourth largest newspaper in the United States, the New York Post, for having the audacity to do some actual reporting:

Both Twitter and Facebook took extraordinary censorship measures against The Post on Wednesday over its exposés about Hunter Biden's emails -- with Twitter baselessly charging that "hacked materials" were used.

The suppression effort came despite presidential candidate Joe Biden's campaign merely denying that he had anything on his "official schedules" about meeting a Ukrainian energy executive in 2015 -- along with zero claims that his son's computer had been hacked.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/facebook-twitter-block-the-post-from-posting/

If you believe these are isolated, unrelated events, you are a moron and beyond the reach of reason. Set aside your partisan views and at least have the honesty to admit that there is something rotten afoot. At a minimum, the suppression of dissenting views is an act worthy of Joseph Stalin. I am shocked to discover that such a large number of Democrat partisans have gleefully embraced a fundamental attack on the First Amendment. The very people who try to tell us that Donald Trump is a dictator are the very people promoting and supporting quashing any voice that dares to protest the media narrative. This is very dangerous territory.

So back to Bill Barr. What can he do? One option is to arrest and charge people for Conspiracy to Defraud the United States. I am talking about USC 18 section 371.

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:18%20USC%20section:371%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title18%20USC-section371)&f=treesort&edition=prelim&num=0&jumpTo=true

The evidence I have outlined above is an indicia of criminal conspiracy. It provides sufficient predicate for criminal investigations. These were not isolated acts or mere human error. The evidence is being accumulated. I do not know what the Attorney General is going to do. But, he is not going to ignore evidence. Based on his emotional defense of the voting system when interviewed by Wolf Blitzer, I do not believe he is going to let this slide. Stay hopeful.


TV , 12 November 2020 at 09:51 AM

Major problem:
Who is going to do the investigating?
The wholly corrupt (and generally incompetent) FBI?

Fred , 12 November 2020 at 09:56 AM

Larry,

In addition of Facebook and Twitter add LinkedIN, the business networking site. The amount of partisanship, especially post election narrative framing of 'president elect' and 'first woman VP' has grown exponentially. There's plenty of coercion within companies too, especially those with female dominated HR departments.

In regards to USC 18 section 371, two ovservations/questions: how many of the violators are H1B visa holders working for social media companies? How does the concisous decision of the FDA and Pfizer apparently knew Pfizer's potential vaccine was reliable months ago but the company withheld submitting the samples until timing of results would only come out after the election. That impacted not just stock price - by delaying the inevitable jump (which has financial ramifications for those investing or considering investing in that company) - but affected government policies regarding Covid restrictions. Not to mention public opinion (fear) and their potential votes.

blue peacock , 12 November 2020 at 09:59 AM


Larry,

From Barr's handling of Russia Collusion hoax where not one of the major coup plotters has been indicted and where none of Rosenstein, Yates, Comey, et al who have demonstrably signed under penalty of perjury a false FISA application been indicted, it should be clear that placing any faith that Barr is going to take on the corrupt institutional framework is misplaced.

It must be acknowledged that Trump failed in many ways in the execution of his office. He nominated Sessions, Barr, Wray, Rosenstein, Bolton, Mattis, Kelly, et al. Blaming these people is essentially saying the buck doesn't stop at his desk and he has no agency. A few days ago Don Jr. tweeted "Declassify everything". He should have called his Dad and asked him why he hasn't done that for 4 years. Other than cry on Twitter, Trump did nothing tangible personally, using the power of declassification that Col. Lang has noted many times is the prerogative of a POTUS, to expose the Russiagate coup plotters. Trump did not take the fight to the Swamp when he had a chance. And he had 4 years to do that. Why not?

Nicolas , 12 November 2020 at 10:08 AM

"Methodological error? No. A deliberate information operation designed to discourage Trump voters."

I think those fake polls are meant to add some plausible deniability to the election fraud so that no reasonable person would question a result that conform exactly to what the polls said we should expect.

Bill H , 12 November 2020 at 10:14 AM

Yeah, it sounds good, but the Durham report sounded good too. He kept us dangling with his righteous indignation on that one for months, and then said he would close it without indictments because he didn't want to affect the election. Why would he be willing to affect the election now when he was not then? Barr is sounding brass, filled with noise and fury, signifying nothing.

fakebot , 12 November 2020 at 10:28 AM

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/durham-investigation-how-trumps-october-surprise-went-bust.html

On September 10, Nora Dannehy resigned as the deputy to John Durham, the federal prosecutor investigating the government's probe into the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Dannehy left her post and the Justice Department in part because of Attorney General William Barr's pressure on Durham to release a report on his investigation's findings before Election Day, according to a person familiar with her thinking.

[...]

Durham, who is the U.S. Attorney for Connecticut, and Dannehy were also troubled that Barr had purposely misrepresented their work in numerous public comments, the two people said. According to two sources familiar with the probe, there has been no evidence found, after 18 months of investigation, to support Barr's claims that Trump was targeted by politically biased Obama officials to prevent his election.

This is what Barr and Trump have to go up against, time and again. If they plan on fighting this and winning, they need to find better people.

akaPatience , 12 November 2020 at 12:31 PM

Computer chicanery seems the likelier, more easily-provable election fraud to me, especially to account for the huge Ballot Fairy drop of tens of thousands of Biden votes that occurred in the wee hours of Nov. 4th, when counting had ostensibly halted in battleground states. Now, some may argue that fraudulent votes couldn't be added randomly because they would require corresponding registered voters, like a credit/debit function in accounting. Well, any claims of this sort seem either naive or disingenuous to me as an IT person with administrative access could assign votes erroneously, if not create numbers out of thin air. Unless a thorough audit would ensue, who would be the wiser?

Besides, the fact that only Republican oversight was hindered at counting centers is a HUGE red flag and should be telling. I'm trying to keep faith in AG Barr but it's challenging. POTUS is the Ultimate Outsider and this alone puts him at odds with a bi-partisan club of entitled, elitist antagonists.

TV , 12 November 2020 at 12:38 PM

How long did Durham take for his so-called "investigation?"
A little longer than he has taken, no doubt, to negotiate a lucrative partnership in a major swamp law firm.
Anyone has spent any time at all at the DOJ should be automatically regarded as a swamp creature for whom "justice" is protection of the swamp and their own ultimate self-enrichment.
And Trump?
Trump had the right ideas, but he spent 4 years tripping over his own dick.
Terrible appointments, not declassifying pertinent information, no attention to detail and stupid tweeting.
Some of the tweets were clever, but a lot more just sounded like an emotional teenager.
Remember, his background is a salesman and deal maker, not management especially hiring and firing.

Eric Newhill , 12 November 2020 at 01:40 PM

Barr will do nothing. No one is going to trial for any of what has happened. Ever.

Keith Harbaugh , 12 November 2020 at 02:21 PM

BP wrote:

"Trump did not take the fight to the Swamp when he had a chance.
And he had 4 years to do that. Why not?"

The answer seems clear to me.
Trump was well aware of how the forces working against him would characterize an across-the-board declassification.

When the SCO operation wa tos on-going, declassification would have been characterized as an "obstruction of justice".
Is that accurate? Of course not. But that would have been the line.

After the SCO ended, and even before, IC potentates would have screamed
"Revealing sources and methods."
That may be an accurate charge; I don't have the specifics.
See, e.g., among many,

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-intelligence-idUSKBN26M7JO

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/11/politics/trump-russia-investigation-declassification-battle/index.html

BP, have you ever held a TS/SI or SCI clearance? Just wondering. (I have, and know the importance of not divulging sources and methods.)

Deap , 12 November 2020 at 02:38 PM

Maybe the Russian pee-pee tapes were a false flag, It was the FBI/CIA itself who had compromat tapes on Trump, and they held this over his head from Day One.

Dump everything and let historians plow through the entire set of "classified" documents for years to come. Or transfer them to the Trump Presidential Library for full public viewing. Good way to unload a Trump resort property - turn it into a Presidential Library.

sbin , 12 November 2020 at 03:57 PM

Barr the sargent Schultz of the DOJ.
I see nothing NOTHING!
He did even less.Ran out the clock and tied up lose ends.

[Nov 13, 2020] Dead people tend to vote more often, if you make it more convenient for them

Nov 13, 2020 | parler.com

Here is alternative BitChute's posting as a backup to Parler: https://www.bitchute.com/video/oV2Bp07vvWxw/

[Nov 13, 2020] Hannity: A deep dive into the voting machines at center of controversy

Dominion software is used in 28 states. The are used in all Georgia 158 counties. "The Dominion Voting Systems... was rejected three times by data communications experts from the Texas Secretary of State and Attorney General's Office for failing to meet basic security standards."
A quote from DESIGN FLAW IN DOMINION IMAGECAST EVOLUTION VOTING MACHINE ANDREW APPEL OCTOBER 16, 2018: ""The Dominion ImageCast Evolution looks like a pretty good voting machine, but it has a serious design flaw: after you mark your ballot, after you review your ballot, the voting machine can print more votes on it!." pretty good voting machine, but it has a serious design flaw: after you mark your ballot, after you review your ballot, the voting machine can print more votes on it!."
FLASHBACK: DR. ANDREW APPEL TESTIFIES TO CONGRESS ON THE POSSIBILITY OF VOTING MACHINES BEING HACKED
Nov 13, 2020 | www.msn.com

Sean Hannity highlights voting irregularities, calls on lawmakers to preserve election integrity

[Nov 13, 2020] WATCH Election Fraud Caught LIVE on the Air on CNN on Election Night! Hammer-Scorecard

Nov 13, 2020 | welovetrump.com

Trust your eyes!

Trust you eyes about the rallies, and trust your eyes about what was caught on camera live on the air with CNN.

Here you go folks:

https://www.bitchute.com/embed/3PUpbMyrOtjF

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[Nov 13, 2020] Computer chicanery seems the likelier, more easily-provable election fraud to me, especially to account for the huge Ballot Fairy drop of tens of thousands of Biden votes that occurred in the wee hours of Nov. 4th, when counting had ostensibly halted in battleground states

Nov 13, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

akaPatience , 12 November 2020 at 12:31 PM

Computer chicanery seems the likelier, more easily-provable election fraud to me, especially to account for the huge Ballot Fairy drop of tens of thousands of Biden votes that occurred in the wee hours of Nov. 4th, when counting had ostensibly halted in battleground states. Now, some may argue that fraudulent votes couldn't be added randomly because they would require corresponding registered voters, like a credit/debit function in accounting. Well, any claims of this sort seem either naive or disingenuous to me as an IT person with administrative access could assign votes erroneously, if not create numbers out of thin air. Unless a thorough audit would ensue, who would be the wiser?

Besides, the fact that only Republican oversight was hindered at counting centers is a HUGE red flag and should be telling. I'm trying to keep faith in AG Barr but it's challenging. POTUS is the Ultimate Outsider and this alone puts him at odds with a bi-partisan club of entitled, elitist antagonists.

[Nov 13, 2020] Banana Republic USA. Dirty Politics and Rigged Elections- Evidence of Fraud in Swing States by Stephen Lendman

Nov 09, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

Time and again throughout US history since the early 19th century, elections were stolen, not won -- at the federal, state, and local levels. My own city of Chicago is notorious for dirty politics, rigged elections a longstanding tradition, things controlled by the Dem machine. "Big Bill" Thompson was the city's last GOP mayor -- from 1927-1931. For nearly the past 90 years, Chicago's Dem machine controlled city politics.

Longtime University of Illinois Political Science Professor Dick Simpson explained that Chicago's dirty politics "reputation is true." In 1931, Mayor Anton Cermak created the Dem machine, winning elections the old-fashioned way by stealing them how it operated. Machine election rigging discouraged politicians from rival parties to run for mayor and aldermanic offices. During his 1955 – 1976 tenure as mayor, Richard J. Daley fine-tuned machine politics in the city. His son Richard M. was Chicago major from 1989 – 2011. Between them, father and son Daley ran the city for a near-half century. They in their time and Dems today are automatic winners when mayoral elections are held.

In the 1960 US presidential election, the Daley machine manufactured large numbers of votes for JFK. According to Simpson, he would not have carried Illinois without Chicago shenanigans in his favor. Electoral dirty tricks in Chicago included keeping deceased city residents on voter rolls, even filling out voter registration cards with names from tombstones.

According to Simpson and former former political reporters, city residents were promised a few dollars, a good meal, and drinks at a local pub if voted on election day for the "right" candidates. Dem precinct captains notoriously filled in ballots for city residents, doing the same thing for others who didn't show up to vote. Ward committeemen filled in ballots for nursing home residents who were unable to show up at polling stations. Things today are different from Daley era politics but still suspect.

"Vote early and often" once said in the city is largely true today for legitimate absentee-ballot early voting alone. The 2020 race for the White House one day will be remembered as one of the most flagrant examples of US election rigging.

"Fantasy Democracy": US Election 2020. Electoral Fraud??

Pre-dawn Wednesday morning, six-digit vote dumps in Wisconsin and Michigan -- a 7-digit one in Pennsylvania -- went 100% for Biden, erasing Trump's lead in these states. In the above ones, Georgia, Nevada, and likely others, votes from former state residents -- now deceased -- and others no longer residing in various states were counted for Biden over Trump. So were un-postmarked mail-in ballots and others received after the voting deadline. Countless numbers of ballots in swing states that should have been tossed out were added to the Biden count.

In at least Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, Dems controlled ballot counting, GOP monitors prevented from watching it close-up for most of the process.

When significant leads for one candidate evaporate overnight, shenanigans are likely responsible. That's precisely what happened for Biden over Trump in key swing states DJT likely won -- Dem state officials falsely claiming otherwise. According to the Federalist.com, "evidence (of) fraud (in key swing states) is rapidly piling up," adding:

"(E)yewitness testimon(ies)" tell a tale of "falsif(ied) postmarks (or none at all) on late mail-in ballots. GOP election observers were being harassed and kept away from the counting tables in Detroit. Software glitches have been discovered switching votes from Trump to Joe Biden in Michigan, and the same software is being used in other battleground states

Near-90% turnout in Wisconsin raises automatic red flags.

Near-unanimity among establishment media for Biden over Trump throughout the campaign and its aftermath -- notably calling it for the challenger on Saturday while vote-counting continued -- begs the question.

Was the above planned well in advance -- establishment media in cahoots with Dems claiming Biden won, drowning out alternative views?

On Thursday during Trump's post-election press conference, ABC, CBS, NBC, and MSNBC cut away from it in progress when he justifiably claimed election fraud in key swing states.Trump reportedly won't concede. He intends to challenge "voter fraud" through the judicial process.

Nine Supreme Court justices will likely have final say, a repeat of Election 2000 in new form. Banana republic USA is clear from Election 2020 alone. The notion refers to a repressive nation, an undemocratic one, at times politically unstable. It's a country where a small percent of the population has a disproportionate share or wealth and power. It's where ordinary people are exploited, not served. It's where profits are privatized, working households bearing the burden of debt.

It's a kleptocracy run by dark forces -- complicit with monied interests, benefitting at the expense of most others. In the US, it's wrapped in the American flag, dominant media supporting what demands exposure and denunciation. Elections when held are farcical. Powerful interests run things. Ordinary people have no say. Election 2020 is one of many examples. Deep state interests alone decide things.

If they're for Biden/Harris over Trump, what seems likely, the incumbent will be a one-term president. The process works the same way in all banana republics, including ones masquerading as democracies -- notably the USA from inception to the present day.

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Award-winning author Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at [email protected] . He is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: US Drive for Hegemony Risks WW III."

[Nov 13, 2020] TUCKER CARLSON PROVIDES COMPLETE TOTAL PROOF OF WIDESPREAD DEMOCRAT VOTE FRAUD THAT STOLE THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Nov 12, 2020 | www.paulcraigroberts.org

TUCKER CARLSON PROVIDES COMPLETE TOTAL PROOF OF WIDESPREAD DEMOCRAT VOTE FRAUD THAT STOLE THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Paul Craig Roberts

Tucker Carlson is the ONLY honest media figure in the United States. No wonder the presstitutes want him arrested. I am concerned that the criminal Hillary DNC will have him assassinated. You are simply not permitted to tell the truth in the United States. To tell the truth in the American media is a capital offense.

This had to be posted on Parler because Twitter, FaceBook, and YouTube will not permit the Fox News report on Vote Theft to be posted. What more evidence do you need that there is a conspiracy to steal the presidential election from Trump? If the treasonous and criminal Democrats get away with their coup against democracy, the United States is finished as a country. No Trump voter will ever again think of the US as his/her country.

https://parler.com/post/f4b23b8551d34921ab7cf9f2833709e0

Here is BitChute's posting as a backup to Parler: https://www.bitchute.com/video/oV2Bp07vvWxw/

Some browser's refuse to open these alternative sites. It shows how tight the tech conspiracy against truth is.

[Nov 13, 2020] Rod Blagojevich thinks there is a 'treasure trove of fraudulent ballots' - Just The News

Nov 13, 2020 | justthenews.com

Former governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich believes there is an "unprecedented" amount of voter fraud in this election cycle.

Blagojevich joined David Brody on Just the News AM to explain how the current presidential election is as he says being "stolen." Blagojevich believes that there will be a "treasure trove" of fraudulent ballots found at the end of the current investigations into voter fraud.

Right now, there is an ongoing lawsuit in Michigan with city workers, and a former state attorney general, swearing that they witnessed voter fraud at the polls.

[Nov 13, 2020] I would find it extremely hard to believe the linear movement to be a mere artifact of counting.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Nov 12 2020 3:02 utc | 158

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Thank you, that saker video is an astounding presentation and I would find it extremely hard to believe the linear movement to be a mere artifact of counting. I will be interested to see the continuing debate around this. Some equivalent data mapping needs to be shown for numerous hand counted counties. I would like to see a refutation or even a second analysis.

The pattern of repetition by machine counting needs a much greater sample of comparison with Hand counting.

[Nov 13, 2020] Flashback- U.S. once decried an election with expelled observers, absentee boxes and 90% turnout - Just The News

Nov 13, 2020 | justthenews.com

Flashback: U.S. once decried an election with expelled observers, absentee boxes and 90% turnout

Though a far cry from America, the 2004 Ukrainian election showcased some behavior that today makes U.S. conservatives distrustful. By John Solomon

Updated: November 12, 2020 - 9:09am

Sixteen years before the 2020 presidential contest in America, the U.S. government decried as corrupt an earlier election where special voting boxes were created to help citizens vote from home, election observers were expelled from vote counts, pre-election polls were wildly off, and voter turnout in certain communities exceeded 90%.

The 2004 presidential election in Ukraine saw suspiciously high turnout rates that "even Stalinist North Korea would envy," the State Department declared in 2004 after an election in the former Soviet republic infuriated the administration of President George W. Bush.

The famously and endemically corrupt Ukraine under then-Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych is, of course, a far cry from the United States when it comes to election integrity. But the story of that Ukrainian election as recounted by then-Ambassador John Tefft to a Senate committee in December 2004 raises a tantalizing question for conservatives distrustful of the Nov. 3 elections here: If tactics and outcomes in the Ukrainian election back then were enough to cry foul, why can't Americans debate similar concerns here?

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After all, a record number of Americans were allowed to vote from the comfort of their homes in 2020, GOP election observers have claimed they were kept from observing vote counts, pre-election and exit polls were wildly wrong when compared to actual vote, and there are some city wards and precincts where voter turnout was, well, historically high.

Take, for instance, Wisconsin's largest urban area, Milwaukee County, where more than 90 of the 400-plus wards reported a final turnout of 90% or greater. It may very well turn out to simply be a record of civic engagement.

But back in 2004, the U.S. State Department saw such turnout in any area of Ukraine as preposterous.

"Turnout in the pro-Yanukovych eastern oblasts was unnaturally high," Tefft testified. "In several electoral districts, turnout for the run-off round increased by 30 to 40 percent over the first round. In Luhansk oblast, the reported turnout rate hit nearly 96 percent -- a number that, to quote the OSCE, even Stalinist North Korea would envy. A similar turnout rate was reported in Donetsk oblast, where 98 percent of the votes went to hometown candidate Prime Minister Yanukovych."

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State officials were also concerned by the high number of Ukrainians who were allowed to cast absentee ballots into special boxes placed outside unmonitored locations, a phenomenon that many communities enabled in America in 2020.

"In the second round of the election, the number of voters who supposedly cast ballots at home using mobile ballot boxes was double that of the first round," Tefft told the senators. "Much of this voting occurred without observers being present and was massively fraudulent. In Mykolayiv oblast, for example, nearly 35 percent of the oblast's voters purportedly cast their ballots at home."

One of the Bush administration's biggest complaints about the Ukraine election of 2004 was that opposition party observers were expelled from ballot-counting locations or left unable to meaningfully observe the count. Many Republican vote observers have made similar claims in cities like Philadelphia in the recent U.S. election.

"Observers from Our Ukraine and other opposition groups were expelled from most polling stations in eastern Ukraine on Election Day," Tefft recounted at the time. "For example, in Territorial Election Commission (TEC) district number 42 in Donetsk oblast, Our Ukraine observers were kicked out of all but a few polling stations."

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Finally, State Department officials raised concerns that the final votes counted in Ukraine were far different than the pre-election and exit polls, which had predicted a different outcome than a Yanukovych victory. That too mirrors the Americans election, where President Trump outperformed by a statistically significant margin nearly all the pre-election polls, including one by ABC News and The Washington Post that showed him down 17 points in a Wisconsin race he lost by just 20,000 votes, or less than 1%.

The 2004 Ukrainian election also featured some misconduct far beyond anything proven or even alleged in the Nov. 3 election here, including allegations that election computers were hacked to change vote totals and eyewitness accounts of election workers with their "pockets stuffed with blank absentee ballots that they were using to vote at multiple polling stations."

Again, Ukraine ranks far below the U.S. when it comes to election integrity. But Tefft's testimony nonetheless raises an important point: Should the greatest democracy of America share any of the shamed attributes of a Ukrainian election? The answer for most Americans is probably a resounding "No.

[Nov 13, 2020] This complete collapse of the post-Election Day count is the DNC's fault. They got over-excited by the 70 million actual American voters and panicked. YOUR GOONS BROKE IT. NOT US.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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No_Pretzel_Logic , 6 hours ago

GREAT VIDEO describing how the electronic vote fraud works.

Shows two recent prime examples in TX in 2018 and KY in 2019. This guy is a patriot ....he and his partners spent their own money and mountains of time tracking all this down and putting it together. https://www.bitchute.com/video/dohtOkDixFsD/

Yog Soggoth , 34 minutes ago

More evidence of fraud. https://twitter.com/A_Blossom4USA

Fireman , 3 hours ago

It comes down to just one question; will the pigs, bulls and Pentacon "patriots" continue to "serve their country" (i.e the Zero 1% war mongering predatory scum) by slaughtering homegrown malcontents, deplorables and trumpites for the filth that owns USSA lock,stock and barrel?

Anyone who expects the militarized state controlled goons to not crush the skulls of those that contest and decry this election farce has not been paying attention to the same pigs and bulls brutally enforcing the cov ID 1984 agenda on a global scale.

If USSA is up to the job of a worthwhile revolution with all the necessary eradication of bolshevik garbage then the time is clearly at hand or will the "few good men" continue to procrastinate until the minute before the corpofascist owned goons kick down their doors?

We arrived long ago but many are those that will never see that blatant fact.

Ah don't ya love the stench of a dead "democracy" ....in the morning!

Onward to the burnin'

We have arrived....

Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost.

Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost.

Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost.

Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost.

Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in "the goodness of humanity" is lost.

https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/p/the-five-stages-of-collapse.html

fbazzrea , 5 hours ago

you are right, most people do not understand the gravitas of current events and our forced march towards totalitarianism. it IS time to shut this color revolution down. it's getting out of hand and our entire culture and way of life is on life support.

crunch time...

Jim in MN , 5 hours ago

Seems like a minor troll problem around here.

NOW HEAR THIS

This complete collapse of the post-Election Day count is the DNC's fault. They got over-excited by the 70 million actual American voters and panicked. YOUR GOONS BROKE IT. NOT US.

So STFU and get to the sidelines if you can. You DO NOT want to be on the wrong side of this now.

Just blame the right people.

The SAME people you should have dealt with after 2016.

Any questions???

Arch_Stanton , 3 hours ago

The problem for the Democrats is they were stunned on election night with the amount of fraud that was needed.

The Trump lead was so large they had to hurriedly devise a Plan B.

So they stopped the counting until they manufactured hundreds of thousands of phony votes.

This was where the large, sloppy, easily detected fraud came in

LickItUp , 5 hours ago

If I'm not mistaken, the Supreme Court can rule that a state's election was conducted so improperly as to be invalid rendering that state a non-participant in the election such as to leave neither candidate with the necessary majority of electoral votes. Then it goes to the House for a vote where each state gets one vote based on the majority party in the state's legislature. Presently there are 30 legislatures with republican majorities. SWEET!!!

It's like the Founding Fathers knew this day would come.

Jim in MN , 5 hours ago

Pretty much. In fact the Constitution gives the state legislatures the SOLE AND ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY to send electors.

Now in general current practice is to have preset elector slates for each candidate, triggered by the state certification.

But, and this actually has ZERO to do with courts, if the legislature decides for any reason that they should change that process they can.

In this case, with a busted system thanks to DNC goons, ALL of these swing state legislatures not only CAN, but MUST vote bills sending electors based on the Election Day vote count.

Everything after midnight Election Day is BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR.

That is not a legal/court determination. It is a political determination.

WE THE PEOPLE along with the state legislatures can end this simply, and peacefully in this way.

Jim in MN , 5 hours ago

DC is a distraction now and so is the Georgia Senate runoffs.

State capitols are all that matters now.

December 14, either legitimate electors vote the President back in based on Election Day results, or it's over.

State legislatures need to ensure that illegitimate electors are NOT appointed.

And We The People need to ensure that the legislatures know that.

This Saturday in DC is great, but its main purpose should be to spread the word to hit Harrisburg, Richmond, Lansing, Madison, Atlanta, Saint Paul and Raleigh.

Arch_Stanton , 4 hours ago

The onus is Democrats to show that votes are legitimate.

If they destroyed evidence related to ballots to hide fraud, those ballots will be disallowed.

That's literally hundreds of thousands of ballots in several states.

If they violated procedure by denying Republican poll workers access, more ballots get thrown out.

If a voting system can be shown to be insecure (hello, Dominion), those votes get thrown out.

If votes get counted in violation of the state constitution (hello, PA), those votes get thrown out.

If the state head of elections gives unconstitutional instructions to local election officials (hello, WI), ballots get thrown out.

Duplicate ballots get thrown out.

Improperly signed ballots get thrown out.

Groups of votes that fail statistical analysis get adjusted.

Votes from dead people, from aliens (illegal or otherwise) or votes from out of state residents who voted elsewhere get thrown out.

JackOliver4 , 5 hours ago

Someone on this thread mentioned Slobodan Milosevic - Milosevic was a hero who stood up against the NATO backed terrorist group KLA ( always called a 'liberation' army when created by the WEST) who went on their murderous rampage - fully backed by the Rothschild's army - NATO !!

This is the powerful ***T Trump is up against - there is NO way Trump installed Pompeo OR Bolton - they were 'installed' for him !!

Milosevic was 'suicided' while awaiting 'trial' at a holding cell in the HAGUE !!

Imagine his last moments ??

These people are **KING evil and have cost millions of innocent lives - the TIME to get rid of this global cancer is NOW !!

There will never be another CHANCE !!

JackOliver4 , 5 hours ago

Someone on this thread mentioned Slobodan Milosevic - Milosevic was a hero who stood up against the NATO backed terrorist group KLA ( always called a 'liberation' army when created by the WEST) who went on their murderous rampage - fully backed by the Rothschild's army - NATO !!

This is the powerful ***T Trump is up against - there is NO way Trump installed Pompeo OR Bolton - they were 'installed' for him !!

Milosevic was 'suicided' while awaiting 'trial' at a holding cell in the HAGUE !!

Imagine his last moments ??

These people are **KING evil and have cost millions of innocent lives - the TIME to get rid of this global cancer is NOW !!

There will never be another CHANCE !!

[Nov 13, 2020] Multiple Michigan residents swear they witnessed widespread voter fraud in Detroit - Just The News

Nov 13, 2020 | justthenews.com

he media mantra that there is no evidence of voter fraud in the Nov. 3 election for the first time faces a real challenge. Several Michigan residents -- ranging from a city worker to a former state assistant attorney general -- swear under penalty of perjury they witnessed significant and widespread election tampering in the city of Detroit.

And by significant, they insist thousands of ballots were involved.

Rudy Giuliani: 'I have never seen an election case with half this evidence of fraud'

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Take, for instance, longtime city of Detroit employee Jessy Jacob, who provided among the most startling accounts.

Jacob stated in an affidavit she personally witnessed -- and in some cases was instructed -- to backdate thousands of absentee ballots the day after the election to make them appear legal even though they were not in the Qualified Vote File and had not arrived by the deadline.

"On November 4, 2020, I was instructed to improperly pre-date the absentee ballots receive date that were not in the QVF as if they had been received on or before November 3, 2020," she testified. "I was told to alter the information in the QVF to falsely show that the absentee ballots had been received in time to be valid. I estimate that this was done to thousands of ballots."

File JessyJacobAffidavit.pdf

Jacob's claim is stunning. Not only does she risk perjury if she lied, she could lose her livelihood as a city worker.

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Just the News reviewed more than a dozen affidavits filed in various election challenge lawsuits in Michigan. All witnesses, like Jacob, signed the affidavits and had them notarized, making them subject to Michigan's perjury law.

Jacob described how she was assigned to work the city's election back in September and for weeks witnessed systemic election fraud and tampering with voters at multiple locations.

"I processed absentee ballot packages to be sent to voters while I worked at the election headquarters in September 2020 along with 70-80 other poll workers," her affidavit stated. "I was instructed by my supervisor to adjust the mailing date of these absentee ballot packages to be dated earlier than they were actually sent. The supervisor was making announcements for all workers to engage in this practice.

"I directly observed, on a daily basis, City of Detroit election workers and employees coaching and trying to coach voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. I witnessed these workers and employees encouraging voters to do a straight Democrat ballot. I witnessed these election workers and employees going over to the voting booths with voters in order to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote."

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Officials for the city election clerk's office did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Alexandra Seely, a Michigan voter who worked as a GOP poll challenger, recounted in a handwritten affidavit how her challenges to suspect ballots were summarily ignored and she was "harassed and threatened" for raising concerns.

"I challenged 10 votes at table 23, they would not take out the log to record my challenges," Seely's affidavit stated. "I had to write names and ballot numbers on my own. I asked to make incident reports. They would not allow me, and said they will make a note in the computer. They did not and proceeded to keep counting."

File SeelyAffidavit.pdf

Zachary Larsen, a GOP lawyer who until earlier this year worked for the state of Michigan as an assistant attorney general, swore in his affidavit he witnessed poll workers violating the secrecy of ballots, apparently peeking to see whom a voter had supported before deciding whether to put them in a pile of problematic ballots that might not count. A fellow poll watcher joined him for part of the observations

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"Beyond the legal requirements for maintaining ballot secrecy, both of us were concerned that the violations of the secrecy of the ballot that we witnessed could be or were being used to manipulate which ballots were placed in the 'problem ballots' box," his affidavit alleged.

Larsen also stated he saw evidence the ballots were being approved for non-eligible voters.

"I was concerned that this practice of assigning names and numbers indicated that a ballot was being counted for a non-eligible voter who was not in either the poll book or the supplemental poll book," his affidavit stated.

"From my observation of the computer screen, the voters were certainly not in the official poll book," Larsen stated. "Moreover, this appeared to be the case for the majority of the voters whose ballots I had personally observed being scanned."

File ZachLarsenAfifdavit.pdf

Robert Cushman, another poll observer in Detroit, submitted an affidavit that described behavior almost identical to that which the city worker Jacob said she engaged in. Cushman said he saw large swaths of ballots being counted the day after the election for voters who were not in the authorized list of names. In some cases, he added, fake birth dates were being used to fill in birth dates.

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"I challenged the authority and the authenticity of all of these ballots that were being processed late with absolutely no accompanying documentation, no corresponding name in the QVF, and no corresponding name in the Supplemental List," Cushman's affidavit stated.

"Every ballot was being fraudulently and manually entered into the Electronic Poll Book (QVF), as having been born on January 1, 1900," Cushman continued. "This 'last' batch of ballots was processed in the 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. time frame. When I asked about this impossibility of each ballot having the same birthday occurring in 1900, I was told that was the instruction that came down from the Wayne County Clerk's office."

File CushmanAffidavit.pdf

The Washington Post and many other news organizations have published stories stating there was no widespread voter fraud. Such stories ignore the sworn accounts of these Michigan citizens -- some who were civil servants, some who were Republican poll watchers -- whose accounts implicate thousands of ballots.

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The question now is will the Justice Department and state authorities investigate and corroborate these claims.

[Nov 12, 2020] Dominion Voting Systems denies financial relationship with Dianne Feinstein husband

Notable quotes:
"... It confirmed that Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi's former chief of staff, is a lobbyist for Dominion ..."
Nov 12, 2020 | www.msn.com

Dominion Voting Systems rebuked claims that the company has a financial relationship with the husband of Sen. Dianne Feinstein and that the company manipulated the results of the 2020 election.

"The company has no financial relationship with Mr. Blum ," Kay Stimson, Dominion's vice president of government affairs, told the Dispatch . "This is a false claim spread on social media."

Trump legal adviser Sidney Powell said Democrats, including Feinstein's husband, Richard Blum, invested in the voting system company to "steal" elections not only from Republicans but from other Democrats.

Fox News's Maria Bartiromo said that she had seen reports that Blum was a "significant shareholder" in Dominion and that a former chief of staff for Nancy Pelosi is a "key executive."

"They have invested in it for their own reasons and are using it to commit this fraud to steal votes," Powell told Bartiromo during an interview. "I think they've even stolen them from other Democrats in their own party, who should be outraged about this also."

Powell said that Democrats "had this all planned" and that they inserted ballots filled out only for apparent President-elect Joe Biden when President Trump's vote tally went too high.

Apart from sworn affidavits, at least one of which has been recanted , no evidence of widespread voter fraud has yet been found.

Claims of Democrats being involved in Dominion are misleading, the Dispatch reported. It confirmed that Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi's former chief of staff, is a lobbyist for Dominion and reported that Bartiromo "fails to mention that a number of Republican staffers are as well."

There is also no evidence to suggest that Blum ever had a financial stake in Dominion. At one point, Blum Capital Partners, a firm chaired by Blum, held a 16.7% stake in Avid Technology, which viral posts alleged developed voting software that was used in Michigan.

Those claims are also false, according to a spokesman who told the Dispatch that Avid produces software "to produce music, movies, TV news, and shows," not voting software. The representative also said that Blum Capital Partners "has no holdings in Avid today."

Avid is also not connected to Dominion.

The Washington Examiner reached out to Dominion for further comment.

Tags: News , Voting , 2020 Elections , Dianne Feinstein , Election Lawsuits

[Nov 12, 2020] Rundown of every single election fraud red flag

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com
Wally says: November 10, 2020 at 6:53 am GMT • 14.5 hours ago 300 Words ↑ @gay troll

Get out more often.

recommended:

Rundown of every single election fraud red flag:
https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/05/the-2020-election-fuckery-is-afoot/

It Defies Logic": Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data: : https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot
exc.:

"It appears Dems shot themselves in the foot because making everyone do mail-in ballots actually makes it easier to catch mail-in ballot fraud. Because all of the ballots go through the postal system, they get shuffled like a deck of cards, so we expect reported ballot return to be extremely UNIFORM in terms of D vs R ratio, but to drift slightly towards R over time because some of those ballots travel farther. This pattern proves fraud and is a verifiable timestamp of when each fraudulent action occurred."

In 30 states, a computer system known to be defective is tallying votes
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/in_30_states_a_computer_system_known_to_be_defective_is_tallying_votes.html

All statistical anomalies in Pennsylvania favor Biden : https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies/
Like Flipping a Coin and Getting Heads 100 Times': Stats Boffs Scrutinize Biden 'Victory' Numbers

How the Presidential Election Was Stolen : https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/no_author/how-the-presidential-election-was-stolen/

Evidence Mounts of a Stolen Election , by Paul Craig Roberts: https://www.unz.com/proberts/evidence-mounts-of-a-stolen-election/

The President's lawyer, Sydney Powell, explains the massive, historical vote fraud that has occurred and predicts that Trump will win the election in the end.
Including the Pelosi, Feinstein connection to Dominion software manipulation


[Nov 12, 2020] How Trump Might Still Win

Notable quotes:
"... This whole thing has a chance of spiraling out of control across many levels. Anyone who believes the MSM narrative at this point needs cat scan of their brain. ..."
"... Finally, one more comment: over 71 million voted for Trump, many, if a not a majority, not out of undying love for the man, but out of conviction that he was the "lesser evil". They were presented with a partly demented, likely illegitimate candidate in Biden and a severely unattractive VP who failed to make a dent in the primary and withdrew early. ..."
Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jackrabbit , Nov 11 2020 18:33 utc | 11

There are several more steps and deadline in the elaborate election process for the presidency.

Trump could, even without finding the necessary votes, (ab-)use the Electoral College process to shift the result to his side. He can try to block or delay certifications in certain states and/or he can push Republican state legislators to appoint Trump electors.

There is precedence for that from the 1876 election:

Then as now, each state must decide on a group of electors to meet with a joint session of Congress on January 6 where the winner of the presidential election is declared. The normal practice in a state where Biden won the popular-vote total would be for state election officials to certify the results and send a slate of electors to Congress. But state legislatures have the constitutional authority to conclude that the popular vote has been corrupted and thus send a competing slate of electors on behalf of their state.
The 12th Amendment to the Constitution specifies that the "President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted." That means that in the case of disputes about competing electoral slates, the President of the Senate -- Vice President Pence -- would appear to have the ultimate authority to decide which to accept and which to reject. Pence would choose Trump. Democrats would appeal to the Supreme Court.

Alternatively, if at that point, no candidate has the required 270 electoral votes, the 12th Amendment stipulates, "the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote." Currently, Republicans have a state delegation majority with 26 of the 50 states and they appear almost certain to keep that majority in the new Congress. A vote of the states would then elect President Trump for a second term. And again, Democrats would appeal that outcome to the Supreme Court.

... ... ...

Meanwhile we all, as bystanders, will have to up our popcorn supplies to sustain the next two month.

Posted by b on November 11, 2020 at 17:36 UTC | Permalink

he has a Constitutional challenge in Pennsylvania and a recount of the very close race in Georgia. If he could manage to win in these two states (plus North Carolina where he has a comfortable lead), Biden would have only 270 electoral votes and a single faithless elector (selected by one of the Republican legislatures) could throw the race to the House of Representatives where Trump would win. Such an outcome would avoid direct manipulation by Trump/Trump Administration.

!!


alaff , Nov 11 2020 18:37 utc | 14

There have already been many predictions and opinions, some have come true, some have not. My guess is that Biden's inauguration will take place, and it is entirely possible that Trump will be present, thereby voluntarily agreeing to transfer power. A "civil war" between supporters of Republicans and Democrats, too, most likely will not happen.

Either way, Biden is apparently the first American quasi-legitimate president.
Of course, there can be no question of the legality, transparency and democracy of the past elections. The winner in such "elections" a priori does not have full legitimacy. Even Lukashenko is more legitimate than Biden.

dh-mtl , Nov 11 2020 18:38 utc | 15

Three things are clear at this point.

1. Statistical analysis and factual testimony show that there was massive fraud in several key states.

2. This fraud has been organized for months by the democratic party and their oligarchic bosses.

3. If the fraud is allowed to stand, it sets a precedent. All future elections will now be determined by fraud.

It's now up to the supreme court to either oversee the preservation or the destruction of democracy in the U.S.

Norwegian , Nov 11 2020 18:45 utc | 21

@dh-mtl | Nov 11 2020 18:38 utc | 15

I agree. This is existential. If this fraud stands, elections are no more in the west. Not that they have been meaningful the last 20 years, but the illusion is gone, and Biden's "Dark Winter" follows. I am assuming that it is indeed the goal.

g kaiser , Nov 11 2020 18:59 utc | 28

I am certainly more inclined to trust a hand recount done in searching light and impartially supervised. In that sense I trust the system. Let's see what that brings. A significant change, and there is a problem. Maybe then systematic.

Matthias , Nov 11 2020 19:01 utc | 33

It amazes me how otherwise critical thinkers will absolutely buy into this MSM bullshit of "no evidence of widespread fraud" trumpeted in unison.
I have seen dozens of videos where actual fraud and criminal conduct was captured unmistably.
The election fraud was done so blatantly and in-your-face that it is damn easy to track and prove. Just look at this:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-analysis-election-night-data-states-shows-millions-votes-either-switched-president-trump-biden-lost/
While some of this fraud may have been prepared well in advance, some of it can only be explained by sheer panic on election night when the Dems noticed how strong Trump's lead was.

What strikes me though is the fixation of commentators even in this forum that just to get rid of Trump is worth literally any and all collateral. Even if it means shattering credibility of the voting process itself - just don't investigate, don't prosecute, Orange Man still BAD and to hell with the fact that half of the country - or more - will consider Biden illegitimate. As if you haven't seen over four years just how toxic that situation is. This is not about Trump, folks, this is about the foundation of democracy. This is about whether our votes still have any meaning.

Hoarsewhisperer , Nov 11 2020 19:04 utc | 35

Nice explanation of the results of some diligent research, b.
ABC.net.au/PlanetAmerica pointed out a puzzling anomaly in the election stats in this evening's episode, which Xymphora has also hilighted...
The contest for House and Senate seats favoured the Republicans over Dems whereas the Presidential contest did not. So that's mildly peculiar.

I would like to quibble with one of your observations...

"There is only one person that could stop Trump from being successful with a 'dirty' Electoral College strategy. That is of course he himself. Over the last four years he has failed to select competent advisors."

In Trump's previous life as a property developer, he was a gifted talent-spotter, one example being the woman he chose to project-manage the construction of Trump Tower and the woman he appointed to oversee the sale/lease of the completed project. I never watched The Apprentice so can't comment on the quality of the "winners" who emerged from that TV spectacle, but I'd be surprise if they were mostly duds.

So I was always confident that President Trump's 'failures' in selecting advisors were intentional, and certainly helped to breathe life into the Conspiracy Theory that the Swamp is a collection of utter assholes which runs America from the shadows.

EoinW , Nov 11 2020 19:11 utc | 41

Have to give President Trump credit. With everyone lined up against him - Dems, media, Deep State & half the Republican party - they still needed massive voter fraud to "win" the election. So massive that it can't be covered up. Question is: will the justice system want to find the fraud? Bill Barr is as Deep State as they come. With him leading the DOJ investigation it seems likely he's be sure not to find anything. It seems the entire system is so corrupt that President Trump doesn't have a chance.

What I'm curious about is why they would all support a corrupt, senile politician leading a party with a history of rigging elections. Obviously they REALLY don't like Trump. Ironic as all these lifetime DC types have as big an ego and are as selfish and amoral as the guy they hate. A bigger factor would be the perception that Biden's win was inevitable. Thus they all jumped on board as they need to be on the winning side to have any future in Washington. I'm sure they were all patting themselves on the back last weekend for a job well done. That, however, was the high point for the Fraudsters. From now on they are playing defence, trying to protect what they think they've won.

Will it work? Like working the four corner offence, can they run out the clock and claim victory? I doubt there is a Dean Smith amongst them with the intelligence to pull this off. Instead we have a bunch of brown nosers who have gotten everything by kissing ass. They supported the fraud to be on the winning side. What will they do if perceptions change and it appears they aren't on the winning side? Like rats leaving a sinking ship?

This was a once in a lifetime thing, building this Coalition of Fraud and getting so many selfish people to all support the same cause. Coalitions do not last forever. Selfish people will opt for their selfish interest when the pressure is on. President Trump has many options to turn that pressure on. Just seeing Rudy Giuliani in prime 9/11 form would have me hiding under my bed. The most important advantage is that the election was stolen and the evidence is there. Simply a question of who chooses to reveal it.

I can understand the behavior of the DC denizens. Why would average Americans, mostly liberals, support such shenanigans? They've nothing to gain from it. How do they benefit from helping the dirtiest political party in US history back into power? What's to be gained by undermining their own democracy? Trump said something to hurt your feelings? Go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face.

Good advice from B, Popcorn stock is on the rise! I'm looking forward to the hysterics from the MSM as their fraud unravels and they become more panicked.

H.Schmatz , Nov 11 2020 19:15 utc | 43

@Posted by: Ernesto Che | Nov 11 2020 18:08 utc | 6

Not to mention, Che, the war he ignited in the Middle East by unilateraly, along Netnayahu, declaring Israel capital in Jerusalem, plus the economic war on Lebanon and one of its main politcla parties, Hezbollah. The wars on Hong Kong, Venezuela and Belarus which not becuase of unsuccessfull are not wars...

Then, there are the multiple proxy and civil wars started, and developing, in the African continent, like in Mozambique ( where 50 people were beheaded by IS in an stadium just yesterday..) and also just yesterday already declared civil war in Ethiopia, between central government and Tigray Region rebels...just coincidentally with the inauguration of a Russian base in South Sudan...

Well, Trump as peacenik debunked at least for anyone not only reading MoA, The Saker, and Voltairenet.

lysias , Nov 11 2020 19:26 utc | 45

Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution, on the selection of electors, makes no mention of the popular vote. It does, however, give state legislatures the power to determine how electors are to be chosen.

lysias , Nov 11 2020 19:52 utc | 52

If enough of the public believes that the Dems are trying to steal the election and nullify a Trump landslide they won't believe that turning over the choice of electors to (elected) state legislatures amounts to saying that votes don't matter.

dh-mtl , Nov 11 2020 20:10 utc | 56

David | Nov 11 2020 18:51 utc | 23; Posted by: Jay | Nov 11 2020 19:09 utc | 38

You want references to evidence:

Statistical evidence: www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot

This an excellent analysis. The conclusion:
'It appears Dems shot themselves in the foot bc making everyone do mail-in ballots actually makes it easier to catch mail-in ballot fraud.' 'This pattern proves fraud and is a verifiable timestamp of when each fraudulent action occurred.'

Factual evidence: 'Trump Files Emergency Injunction In Michigan Alleging Fraud; Demands Recounts Over 'Malfunctioning' Dominion Machines'

More than "more than one hundred credentialed election challengers" who have provided "sworn affidavits". I don't think that these people would provide sworn affidavits to the court without being truthful. This is from just one legal action.

Then of course there is the circumstantial evidence. The Dems have been telegraphing the whole scenario for months in order to prepare the sheeple for just such an outcome.

circumspect , Nov 11 2020 20:26 utc | 60

The Democrats tried a faithless elector strategy after Trump won and before he took office. They went after Trump electors in 2016 like they plan to go after Trump supporters post Trump.

We will know in December how this plays out. Most likely Trump loses but there are some valid complaints yet to be settled.

This whole thing has a chance of spiraling out of control across many levels. Anyone who believes the MSM narrative at this point needs cat scan of their brain.

uncle tungsten , Nov 11 2020 20:31 utc | 62

Richard Wolf has a good post election commentary - ten minutes. Wolf promises a comprehensive analysis in a week.

Norwegian , Nov 11 2020 20:35 utc | 64

@Glen Batterham | Nov 11 2020 20:29 utc | 61

Indeed.
2016+4: Russia rigged the election !!!
2020 : Elections can't be rigged !!!

ptb , Nov 11 2020 20:41 utc | 66

Regarding Trump being able to reverse the preliminary election results: I doubt it.

Unlike 2016, when there was a degree of panic within the Republican party still fresh off the internal struggle of the Tea Party, Republicans are set up do do well enough for the next 2-4 years without Trump (or at least that seems to be the view that's expressed in public).

On the other hand, I'd expect Republicans are willing to go pretty far to contest the GA election results, for the possibility of taking back one of the two Senate seats, and thus formal control of the Senate (ability to set agenda). Republicans will have a de-facto voting majority either way because of the DINO Joe Manchin.

uncle tungsten , Nov 11 2020 21:10 utc | 73

dh-mtl #15

3. If the fraud is allowed to stand, it sets a precedent. All future elections will now be determined by fraud.

It's now up to the supreme court to either oversee the preservation or the destruction of democracy in the U.S.

The fraud has been standing for many years if not decades. It is precedent, it is documented see Greg Palast, see Bernie Sanders in California 2020, see Whitney Webb Suspect AI Software Verified Mail-In Ballots With Little Human Oversight in Key Battleground States/

Nah the Supreme Court is incapable of that task. If the issues are critical and so earth shattering they can simply pass the entire steaming pot of turds back to the legislature and suggest rerun of election or draw straws in a combined sitting of the Senate and Congress. THAT is the measure of the rot in the USA.

To expect anything more is delusion.

Merlin 2 , Nov 11 2020 21:18 utc | 74

...Also, I have the links both to the two first rate Election integrity studies from 2016 (these are really the gold standard now for how elections can be stolen and rigged when the will is there and the means are secured, while the cover-up is sustained by enormous lust for power). I also have somewhere an excellent link to the sordid history of ES&S (though it can be found through Google with some effort). Yes, I am lazy but can be rattled from it......if needed.

Finally, one more comment: over 71 million voted for Trump, many, if a not a majority, not out of undying love for the man, but out of conviction that he was the "lesser evil". They were presented with a partly demented, likely illegitimate candidate in Biden and a severely unattractive VP who failed to make a dent in the primary and withdrew early. These people, these 71+ M (some of whom may even be progressives, as I hinted above) will NOT accept the greater evil which will include even more heavy-handed censorship than we have seen so far. They - and I (however I voted) fear an Orwellian future for this country, complete with suppression of free speech (yes, it can be suppressed even more than it is already).

The majority of these voters will NOT accept a verdict that they believe is illegitimate, whether trump's lawyers can come up with a clever ploy or not. They WILL regard a dem administration as illegitimate and they WILL resist, if passively at first.

A country requires at least some good will among a majority of its citizens to hold together. IF much of that good will is withdrawn, the center will not hold and we'll be seeing some truly hostile actions and reactions that will prove "we are NOT in this together".

Perhaps some of you look forward to the decline of the Empire through domestic strife (I kind of do). Yet, we should always remember that no Empire went down quietly without first inflicting countless damage on its own as well as those out there. It is simply not a pretty sight, and that is something to dread.

uncle tungsten , Nov 11 2020 21:18 utc | 75

Top analysis prize:- perfectly stated. Putin is off the hook and Xi can breath a sigh of relief.
This USAi performance is downhill all the way. We all need a drink or a joint - f*k the popcorn.

@Glen Batterham #61

Indeed.
2016+4: Russia rigged the election !!!
2020 : Elections can't be rigged !!!

Posted by: Norwegian #64

lysias , Nov 11 2020 21:21 utc | 77

If the Supreme Court decides no Electoral College vote is reliable, they don't have to order a new election. They can just follow the Constitution and turn the choice of the new president to the House of Representatives and of the new vice president to the Senate.

Stonebird , Nov 11 2020 21:22 utc | 78

There is claimed proof. (Examples below and part of McENanay's statement). OK, these will now be followed through. So we will see if they are enough to cause any changes in the final outcome.

In more news, Twitter censored 12 of trumps Tweets today.

The amount of newcomers trying, rather desperately, to decry anything about the voting fraud that may have happened is a sign that a bit of "hot-under-the-collar-desperation is setting in.

The "Intelligence" community is openly calling for a "coup" by VP Pence. They are in the process of really panicking as many of the originators of Russiagate, Pizzagate would face real prison terms if Trump wins. (Brennans statements to the Press) (I would love to add "billsgate" but that would be off topic)

Quote;
"We keep hearing the drumbeat of 'where is the evidence?' Right here, Sean, 234 pages of sworn affidavits, these are real people, real allegations, signed with notaries," McEnany said.

"They're alleging - this is one county, Wayne County, Michigan - they are saying that there was a batch of ballots where 60 percent had the same signature," she told host Sean Hannity.

"They're saying that 35 ballots had no voter record but they were counted anyway, that 50 ballots were run multiple times through a tabulation machine."

There were a lot more.

Kaiama , Nov 11 2020 21:41 utc | 87

Apologies if these links already exist:-

https://everylegalvote.com/country

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Dr.ShivaAyyadurai

It is clear that all US elections are just chicanery and attorneys. Their criticism of Crimea, Belarus, Venezuela and others will now disappear down the plughole. They have no authority to lecture anyone on democracy.

[Nov 12, 2020] A PHD from MIT (Dr.Shiva) explains why the voting pattern in Michigan is an algorithm set to take votes away from Trump and give them to Biden. Dr. Shiva shows charts by counties that clearly reveals corruption and how the software was programmed so it would be impossible for Trump to win

Nov 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Maxx99 , 1 hour ago

Trump did not lose, he was cheated out of a second term by the democrats.

This is the most enlightening video I've seen over the past week. A PHD from MIT (Dr.Shiva) explains why the voting pattern in Michigan is an algorithm set to take votes away from Trump and give them to Biden. Dr. Shiva shows charts by counties that clearly reveals corruption and how the software was programmed so it would be impossible for Trump to win. If this video already hasn't been sent to Rudy and the Trump team, it needs to be. here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk

If you don't have time to watch the whole video, start it at 31:07 and you'll see the charts that show how Trump was cheated.

LVrunner , 1 hour ago

Excellent video, watched it last night. I knew when everything came to a complete halt in AZ then the east coast, it had to be computer generated. This video proved just that. Also, fb is trying to sensor it so that's the answer right there.

Sebastion , 1 hour ago

Oh boy you have charts!

Bay of Pigs , 1 hour ago

It's called real data.

Are you really this stupid or just a ****bag troll? Both?

[Nov 12, 2020] Texas Lt. Gov. for $1 Million Voter Fraud Reward

Nov 12, 2020 | www.msn.com

Whistleblowers and tipsters should turn over their evidence to local law enforcement. Anyone who provides information that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000," Patrick said in the press release.

[Nov 12, 2020] Dr.SHIVA LIVE- MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems. - The Vineyard of the Saker

Nov 12, 2020 | thesaker.is

Larchmonter445 on November 11, 2020 , · at 12:37 pm EST/EDT

The those who have short time available, roll to :25 minutes if you have some understanding that within the software used in 30 states and Michigan in particular there is a weighty system to alter vote totals.

This is demonstrated by the analysis.

Irrefutable evidence seems to be the result of this presentation.

Hopefully, the court challenge uses this analysis

Best of all, consume the entire video. Then you will have the education to understand the fraud perpetrated.

SteveF on November 11, 2020 , · at 2:11 pm EST/EDT

I watched this earlier today. As soon as I saw the tilted scatter graph, it became absolutely obvious that something was skewing the results into a biased direction. I didn't need the orange lines to see it.
Basically it's a feedback loop that ensures that as the republican vote gets higher, the Biden vote gets an increased proportion of the Trump vote.
This would surely explain the questions that people raise about why the Senate and Congress votes aren't following the Presidential vote trend.
I haven't researched it further, but I feel that the nature of a feedback loop is also partly responsible for results being so close.

Belisarius on November 11, 2020 , · at 2:14 pm EST/EDT

This was one fantastic presentation; not only did the MIT professor an excellent job making semi-arcane concepts accessible to the wider audience, but he also presented irrefutable evidence that fraud was conducted on an industrial scale in cahoots with the companies making the ballot machines and the global finance oligarchs.

I totally agree with Larchmonter, this is a must see, on so many levels!

Norwegian on November 11, 2020 , · at 3:15 pm EST/EDT

Yes, after seeing this you have to ask: How far does is the fraud go? I don't have proof, but this stuff has most likely been happening in lots of places, so the numbers could be anything, even more than a million. You get the clear impression that it is systemic, the fraud is built into the system and tuned so that the outcome would be a narrow win for Biden no matter what. I will never trust a narrow victory in an election again.

The presentation was excellent indeed.

When we saw the demented Biden in front of nobody but empty cars, we are supposed to believe he won the majority? The guy who says he organised the largest voter fraud in the US history? The guy who sat in his basement? The guy who wears a black mask like a criminal? The guy who's son provided him with illegal money from Ukraine? The guy who threatened the Ukrainian president to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor for investigating his corrupt son, and then bragging about it in front of cameras? It goes on and on.

I don't like Trump, I condemn his murder of Soleimani and crimes against Iran, Syria, Yemen. But this is not about Trump, it is all about whether there will ever be elections again.

Anonymous on November 11, 2020 , · at 8:08 pm EST/EDT

"I don't like Trump, I condemn his murder of Soleimani and crimes against Iran, Syria, Yemen. But this is not about Trump, it is all about whether there will ever be elections again."

Amen.
Because I say things sort of like this, family members won't talk to me!!
I guess I'll have Thanksgiving by myself (sob!) ((:-))

Katherine

Anonymous on November 11, 2020 , · at 8:11 pm EST/EDT

"I don't like Trump, I condemn his murder of Soleimani and crimes against Iran, Syria, Yemen. But this is not about Trump, it is all about whether there will ever be elections again."

Amen.
Because I say things sort of like this, family members won't talk to me!!
I guess I'll have Thanksgiving by myself (sob!) ((:-))

BTW. was unable to watch the video myself. I got this message:
"An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: ifMdcKbpCAEFAPjm)
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Katherine

sandinED on November 11, 2020 , · at 5:35 pm EST/EDT

This is clearly far more compelling evidence than any talk of dead voters or observers being denied access.

It makes me wonder if both parties are colluding and we're actually watching a choreographed dance / a divide and conquer operation designed to run and run.

Perhaps I'm just too suspicious, but if this irrefutable evidence is ignored / goes nowhere and instead there's a continuing pantomime about dead voters, then there is clearly no intention to uncover the truth.

PokeTheTruth on November 11, 2020 , · at 6:15 pm EST/EDT

Here is a 2 minute 20 second video that explains how some ballots are counted

See: https://www.essvote.com/blog/video/video-how-are-ballots-counted/

Pay attention to the 1 minute 19 second mark, which shows how a voter's choice is translated to a candidate.

The video suggests each machine has a master table that lists all the candidates on the ballot associated with the intersection of the two coordinates on the ballot that translates to a candidate's matching number. The machine then tallies the vote based upon the matching number.

This tells me at some point prior to election night, the hundreds of electronic voting machines have their master table updated with all the candidates and the location of their name on the ballot identified by the intersecting coordinate matching process.

In my opinion, this design lends itself to software fraud and here is why.

For example, if the machine knows that 091511 corresponds to Donald Trump's name on the ballot, it could have a malicious algorithm that examines the trend of the votes tallied and reassign a portion of the tally to another candidate's number. It it a technological form of ballot stuffing.

The software must be re-designed to eliminate the master table and only tally the count of the intersecting coordinate on the ballot. At the end of the election day, the counts for each of the intersecting coordinates on the ballot are electronically uploaded to a central server that matches the candidate's name on the ballot.

That means the position of a candidate's name on a ballot must be kept confidential until they are handed out on election day to the voters and no software upgrades for the voting machines must be allowed.

The potential for fraud at the central server does exist but an audit of all the polling place results should catch that during a recount.

Anonymous on November 11, 2020 , · at 8:17 pm EST/EDT

I think I have found the video on Bitchute:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XAmigqBh8zAK/

Google/Youtube seems to be suppressing.

Katherine

kapimo on November 11, 2020 , · at 8:18 pm EST/EDT

This work graphically exposing the fraud is excellent and very educative.
Each passing day, I see a new analysis exposing statistical incoherence in swing states results.
I hope Sydney Powell & Co have the team and the time to prepare all this for use in court.

I was also happy to learn about a Rockefeller sponsored non profit organization dedicated to elections (fraud). Does that mean Trump was the chosen one in 2016? I still doubt it, I think they miscalculated.

[Nov 12, 2020] In Pennsylvania, about 3 years ago, the PA Secretary of State, Pedro Cortes, resigned abruptly without explanation. It turned out that legal residents but non citizens upon renewing their driver's licenses were asked if they wanted to register to vote. No one knows how many non citizens actually registered.

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

TGD , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:44 pm GMT • 6.9 hours ago

@A123

Re Pennsylvania, about 3 years ago, the PA Secretary of State, Pedro Cortes, resigned abruptly without explanation. It turned out that legal residents but non citizens upon renewing their driver's licenses were asked if they wanted to register to vote. No one knows how many non citizens actually registered.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2017/10/11/Pedro-Cortes-Pennsylvania-secretary-of-state-resigns/stories/201710110161

[Nov 12, 2020] Going forward the GOP needs to push hard for a Voting Integrity Act that mandates all voter registration must be approved by social security office to verify citizenship status.

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:50 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago

I think Tucker Carlson is wrong. I believe there are enough fraudulent votes to change the result -- if the recount is done honestly. WI, MI, GA, PA could all flip, even AZ and NV. The DNC is run by End Justifies Means people who believe everything they do is justified due to Holocaust, Slavery, yada yada.

MSM is working hard to try to make this a foregone conclusion. Each day we hear about Biden this Biden that, Biden's Transition Team, Biden's New Cabinet, Biden's Foreign Policy, Biden's Trade policy Instead of feeling discouraged, I hope this actually gets Trump and his lawyers fired up to push for recounts. He just filed a new lawsuit in MI. There is no reason why the recounts have not started in WI, GA and PA. It's total BS. The longer this drags on, the harder it'll be to overturn the results. They need to press on.

Going forward the GOP needs to push hard for a Voting Integrity Act that mandates all voter registration must be approved by social security office to verify citizenship status. I suspect a high number of voters esp. in blue states like CA and WA are non-citizens, from tens of thousands to millions, since the DMV asks everyone to register to vote and never check their citizenship status. In WA the ballot used to ask people to confirm they are US citizens before signing the ballot with indication of fines/jail time for non-citizens who vote, but they've removed that warning entirely in all ballots since 2016.

The Voting Integrity Act should include a mass audit of the voter registration in every state, with a national database that detects people who are registered to vote in more than one state. Even if Trump doesn't prevail due to mass cheating in the recounts, the GOP needs to put this Voting Integrity Act in place or they will never win another election.

[Nov 12, 2020] I Was In Philadelphia Watching Fraud Happen. Here's How It Went Down

Nov 12, 2020 | thefederalist.com

Legacy media are lying when they claim that all of President Trump's allegations of voter fraud are baseless. I know, because I argued a case on the president's behalf in federal court in Philadelphia.

At issue was President Trump's request for an order changing the way Pennsylvania absentee and mail-in ballots are being reviewed at the Philadelphia Convention Center. CNN and others claim he "lost." That's false: he won. As I made that argument on behalf of the president's campaign, I can tell you what really happened.

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President Trump went to court about two problems: First, only a handful of Republican observers -- substantially fewer than the Democrats had there -- were being admitted to the room at the Philadelphia Convention Center where inspections were being conducted. Second, the few who could get in weren't permitted to get close enough to see what was actually happening. The most important questions all have to ask are: Why all the hiding? What's being hidden?

At the Convention Center counting location, I personally observed dozens of Trump campaign volunteers being barred from the counting room even though they'd been properly registered as observers. That's why I urged Pam Bondi and Corey Lewandowski, who were on the scene, to authorize the filing of a request that a federal court order the Board of Elections to stop this nonsense.

More hiding: despite a binding order of the state's Commonwealth Court, the handful of Republican observers who could get into the room weren't being allowed up to the barrier set at six feet from the closest tables where work was being done. So even though they were in the room where it was happening, they had no way to tell what was happening. If there's no fraud, why is the Democrat-controlled Board of Elections unwilling to let people get close enough to actually see what its people are doing?

So on a borrowed laptop at around 2 p.m. on election day, I typed up a very short document to start a federal lawsuit and to request that the federal court intervene to prohibit these unfair practices. At about 4:30 p.m., its filing was authorized by the campaign.

https://14ff6f8a1fb4c0204beb59946dcb1d3d.safeframe.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-37/html/container.html

The federal judge ordered a hearing that began at 5:30 p.m. and went for two hours. In open court, the judge compelled the Board of Elections to agree that the Republicans could have up to 60 representatives in the room. That was a huge victory, not only for Republicans but for anyone who actually wants to have a vote tabulation worthy of belief.

He also compelled the board to agree that all observers, Democrat or Republican, could get up to the six-foot barrier. While the Democrats claimed that of course, of course, they had always been letting people in and letting them up to the barrier, I had a long list of witnesses who were prepared to testify that this was false. The judge told the defendants pointedly that if they didn't do what they'd promised in his courtroom they would, he had plenty of authority to make them keep their word.

Having secured this agreement from the Board of Elections, the court dismissed the president's motion for court-ordered relief as moot. Courts often do that when they secure an agreement between the parties. It means the court doesn't have to issue an order, which would be appealable, granting or denying the motion, and it means the court doesn't have to write an opinion. What it doesn't mean is that the request made on behalf of President Trump to stop the election fraud was moot, despite the false spin CNN and other mainstream media put on it. All of this was a victory for President Trump and anyone else who believes in open government.

I'm no longer surprised by anti-Trump non-news coming from the likes of CNN. But I cannot imagine why Pennsylvania Republican leaders have suggested there's no reason to think that anything wrong or fraudulent is going on in the counting of Pennsylvania's votes.

https://14ff6f8a1fb4c0204beb59946dcb1d3d.safeframe.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-37/html/container.html

If that were true, why in the world would the Democratic-controlled city government be working so hard to keep Republicans out of the room where those votes are being counted? In a world where every car that drives down the street is on video, why isn't all of this counting being conducted in broad daylight, under watchful eyes? What do they have to hide?

Other people have gathered substantial evidence that there are indeed things to hide, including this video showing, among other things, footage of government officials wearing Joe Biden facemasks filling in blanks in already-submitted mail-in votes. The hearing I attended wasn't about that, but it was about the conditions that make that possible.

No one who wants a legitimate vote count should be working to keep observers out of the room where the votes are counted. Yet for some reason the City of Philadelphia sent three lawyers, including the city solicitor himself, to a hearing to try to persuade a federal judge that he shouldn't even bother addressing President Trump's request.

Fortunately, the federal judge didn't take that advice, and he forced the Board of Elections to do the right thing. I call that a solid victory for everyone -- except for those with something to hide. For some reason, all of this hiding was being done by Democrats, for Biden. Jerome M. Marcus is an attorney in private practice in Philadelphia

[Nov 12, 2020] There is strong indication of widespread systemic fraud

Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Norwegian , Nov 11 2020 18:06 utc | 4

There is strong indication of widespread systemic fraud. Those who say otherwise are speaking against their own knowledge. If you are so sure about the opposite, all you have to do is investigate the main allegations and prove you are right, but not just dismiss it.

An important analysis showing systemic fraud
MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk

Just a couple of other random samples

Woman Who Voted For Trump In Texas Shocked To Find She Also 'Voted' Via Mail-In-Ballot In California

Nevada Whistleblower: Workers Instructed to Process Illegitimate Ballots

The list goes on and on.

I agree with g kaiser. Let the process take it's course.

[Nov 12, 2020] If this obvious fraud is allowed to stand, the Empire is doomed

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Rurik , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:14 pm GMT • 6.4 hours ago

@AnonFromTN

If this obvious fraud is allowed to stand, the Empire is doomed.

perhaps the best argument I've heard yet for this coup

[Nov 12, 2020] Computers only do what they are programmed to do

Nov 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

VZ58 , 50 minutes ago

Computers only do what they are programmed to do. There is no such thing as a "glitch"! Code is code and it is in-putted by a human.

It is fraud, plain and simple...

jammyjo , 38 minutes ago

Working as designed too. Must have been some H1-Bs coding to spec. Otherwise, they would have taken into account the effect of coattails in presidential elections. Oh well, they'll fix that in Dominion 2.0.

[Nov 12, 2020] Rudy Giuliani on contact with CIA relating to election irregularities- I don t think I can comment - YouTube

Nov 12, 2020 | www.youtube.com

G C , 7 hours ago

We all know the CIA and the technocracy are behind the entire election fraud in the first place, Pelosi and Pals and their Dominion Counting Software. Its disgusting, the entire world is disgusted.

None Ofyourbusiness , 6 hours ago

Trudeau in Canada is anti-Trump and anti-democracy. Dominion software is from Canada, is it not? Shake that tree and see what falls out.

Edilberto Parsons , 6 hours ago

You vote in person with an ID. Exemtions given to the disabled and those who are 67 and older. Continue to control elections at the state level in keeping with the constitution. Set a national database that all votes can be verified through social security numbers. Federal law mandating all counties report deaths to the registry so they can be removed from the database. Idk but the current system is garbage. If you want a fare election regardless of political affiliation something would have happened along time ago. And yes there has been fraud. I'm not saying a Democrat rep. contacted every election official. I'm saying these individuals overseeing these counts had the mentality of "by any means necessary". Why? Because orange man evil, so they feel it's justifiable.

8 80 , 3 hours ago

Such an irony: The Constitution of the United States and the Declaration of Independence were signed in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And today the state of Pennsylvania just desecrated our Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. What a shame.

Linda Nitzschke , 1 hour ago

Having been a computer programmer, I've never understood why everyone just went along with trusting the voting machines to be accurate...to have not been purposely compromised by the left.

S. Mesut , 1 hour ago

Why is this CRITICAL ?? Because the last UN-RIGGED election Turkey had was in 2000. After 2002 every election was rigged like this one. GAME OVER and one party rule !

S. Mesut , 1 hour ago (edited)

This is a Turkish style coup by the dems !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No mistake about it.

Way toGo , 4 hours ago

The New York Times reported problems with the Dominion machines back in June. So there is a history of performance issues with the Dominion system.

[Nov 12, 2020] Interview with Source on Electronic Vote Fraud

YouTube video
In 2020 Bush-Cheney administration was in power.
Nov 12, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Summary of Findings

As a result of the 2002 HAVA Act, most counties don't run elections anymore. Private Co/s with Private Shareholders under contract to counties run our elections. And these companies do it with virtually NO Transparency or Supervision.

The entire election system infrastructure is a complex patchwork of various private companies doing various parts of it. ALL of it is exposed to the internet, the idea of it being air-gapped is a myth. The voting companies own manuals show this. Some of these companies conduct elections all over the world, effectively being in a position to control some of the outcomes

Some of the companies are foreign owned with servers outside this country, and they are the last ones to actually control the so-called "unofficial" votes. BUT, it is the "Unofficial" votes that eventually control "Official" votes.

There are no security standards, similar to NIST, for election software. Hence any certifications are largely just agreed on an ad hoc basis between the certifying company and the election company and therefore don't mean much.

Most State SoS offices fail to grasp the extent and vulnerabilities within their systems, and so they grant waiver to their State law and voting code to counties and election companies that exacerbate the problem.

Our investigation revealed at least a dozen or more entry points where votes can and are being switched and the audit trails changed or erased so that a forensic investigation finds no trace. It has to be caught in real time. Even the operator of the election system can change votes undetected.


Jenna Side , 3 days ago

The AP does not have the authority to "Call a presidential race" why are they trying to pretend they can, there is massive evidence of voter fraud

Strut N Seduce , 3 days ago

As an attorney and forensic technologist, the DB reset is what triggered me to watch the whole thing - This is amazing. Why do we never hear more of these things???????? DB reset totally cuts the chain of custody and invalidates the whole election. INSANE - and that's just at 10 minutes in!!!!!

Chiquita , 4 days ago (edited)

According to the US Constitution the election was scheduled for the 1st Tuesday after the 1st Monday in November. Nothing else matters (fraud, counting votes next day etc..) Election ended that day. Federal Law over-rules all these illegal state laws. TRUMP won constitutionally. Time to go to Supreme Court of the United States

[Nov 12, 2020] Here's One Report on Dominion Vote Flipping

Giuliani has an Outstanding Reputation as a Federal Prosecutor
Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
IronForge , Nov 11 2020 21:54 utc | 91

Here's One Report on Dominion Vote Flipping.
https://www.minds.com/media/1172915702746034176

Also, Mayor Giuliani has claimed mamy Cases of Fraud and is Filing Lawsuits as Trump's Lawyer.

Also, Tucker Carlson has also claimed that his Team have verified a good number of Reported Incidents.

Statistical Analyses Claimants are coming forward as well.

Those who claim that there were none or not enough - including you, B - need to read around a bit more and wait before making presumptive assessments when we don't have All the Claim Cases, related Data, and Votes Affected.

Personally, I've seen enough to believe this Election is Compromised. Dominion are allegedly vested by the Pelosis (which alone raise a few Red Flags for a RICO Investigation).

It may be Prudent to Not only Hold Audits; but Redo the Federal Election Seats (WH and Congress) again with Federal Ballots Monitored by Federal Personnel.

Biden should have been sent to Bethesda/Walter Reed/Hopkins for an Alzheimer's/Dementia Review Panel (put my Own Mother through the Drill every several years prior to her going to her Nursing Home); and Hunter should have been Arrested for Crack/Child Molestation while being further investigated for MoneyLaundering/RICO with Pops.

Giuliani is Confident Here As Well. One thing for Certain, B, is that Giuliani has an Outstanding Reputation as a Federal Prosecutor; and Does. Not. Bπ££$#!+. Around. When it comes to Criminal Cases.

I'll rely on Giuliani's Assessments more than anyone else's on this Matter.

V/r,

[Nov 12, 2020] If the CIA was involved, which is very likely .Trump is asking his enemies to help him

Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

Robert Dolan , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:36 pm GMT • 6.1 hours ago

@anon also sat on Hunter Biden's laptop and did nothing.

Trump should fight this travesty of an election but it's hard to see how he can prevail when most of the government and all of the Jmedia have always been against him.

I feel bad for Trump but I feel even worse for our country. If the deep state can use "Hammer" and "Scorecard" to alter elections, then trust in the election process is over.

Barr has done nothing about the ongoing criminality of the left so it's not likely that he will actually do anything about the fraudulent election. Barr will oversee the recounts and claim that everything is kosher and he will follow the Jmedia narrative.

Whites are officially disenfranchised forever ..

No Friend Of The Devil , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:54 pm GMT • 5.8 hours ago

In 1975, the Church Committee hearings exposed the illegal CIA MKULTRA program and formally illegalized it.

Transferring the same program to EO12333 and to DARPA is equally illegal and is a confession of high crimes and is in total violation of the Supreme Law Of The Land, The Constitution sworn to be upheld under oath and affirmation by every president and person in the military, which also makes them guilty of Treason.

It was not the fact that it was the CIA that was doing it that made it illegal. It was illegal in and of itself for the barbaric nature of it being a crime against humanity.

Congress never said that they wanted to transfer the program to the president and the military.

To insinuate that the same concept would be illegal by the CIA, but not illegal by the president and the military is an asinine assumption that defies all logic.

Unfortunately, we do not have a government in America. We have an organized crime ring of corrupt, retarded, sadistic, criminal psychopaths running the country.

America is not a country. It is a crime against humanity!

Andrea Iravani

[Nov 12, 2020] Rudy Giuliani was saying that there are witnesses stating that at least in Pennsylvania and Michigan the big batches of extra ballots that came in the following morning from the election and while the counts were frozen were only marked for Biden, with no other down-ticket candidates being marked on those ballots.

Nov 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Nov 11 2020 21:49 utc | 89

"No Trumper doubts about the Senators and house members Elected trough the same Ballots the Dimwits denounce as Fake" --TDS victim

This is one of the things I am interested in hearing more details on. Rudy Giuliani was saying that there are witnesses stating that at least in Pennsylvania and Michigan the big batches of extra ballots that came in the following morning from the election and while the counts were frozen were only marked for Biden, with no other down-ticket candidates being marked on those ballots. This would explain how Biden got more votes than Trump while the down-ticket Republicans still won the rest of the races. More importantly, if this is accurate, then it is a massive and obvious screw-up by the people cooking the election results. This is going to stand out with mammoth improbabilities in any statistical analysis, and while the PMCs in the corporate mass media are not very bright (they are business and journalism majors, after all, whose math skills plateaued at basic arithmetic), even they can see how awkward this is going to look if those ballots have to face close public scrutiny. That is why they are doing the full court press to get Trump to concede. With a concession the establishment will be able to memory hole the details of the election and gaslight into silence anyone who doubts the establishment narrative about it.

Fun stuff!

[Nov 12, 2020] Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out -- an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date

Look either way the Banker Oligarchs win. Why fight over the scraps, neither one party or leader represents the little guy (defined these days as those with less than 100m USD in assets).
Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

A123 , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:19 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

A new issue has turned up in Pennsylvania putting another 100,000+ ballots in line for exclusion: (1)

Over 51,000 ballots were marked as returned just a day after they were sent out -- an extraordinary speed, given U.S. Postal Service (USPS) delivery times, while nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out. Another more than 23,000 have a return date earlier than the sent date. More than 9,000 have no sent date.

"Since October 1, the average time of delivery for First-Class Mail, including ballots, was 2.5 days," USPS said in an Oct. 29 release.

Impossible and improbable return dates indicate there's something wrong with either the database or the ballots.

Objective facts show that Trump won Pennsylvania.

-- Will the system work?
-- Or, will the Blue Coup cause the Constitution to collapse?

Biden has no legitimate way to claim victory.

PEACE

shylockcracy , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:50 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

In today's episode of America's Next Zionist President, we have an insider giving us all an accurate description of our beloved US constitutional republic and democracy which we must fight to protect:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qfrhATD4nM0?feature=oembed

JimDandy , says: November 11, 2020 at 5:52 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Max Boot, Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, Jake Tapper, et al. are so confused right now.

Roacheforque , says: Website November 11, 2020 at 5:55 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

For rational people, the media's outlandish bias and presumptive misinformation will not end well for their handlers. True, in a fake new soylent green economy, businesses don't need customers and politicians don't need constituents – you can just manufacture them, and pay yourself with your own money by decree. But reality has a way of eventually creeping in (as you gag on your fake beyond meat burger).

The reality here is that we need to take a step back from the media frenzy and recognize rule of law. Concession cannot even be legally possible for several weeks as it stands today. And the only excuse for Biden falsely claiming victory is that he is too senile to observe Constitutional law.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-11-09/us-presidential-election-not-over-heres-where-things-stand-right-now

Clay Alexander , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:24 am GMT • 17.3 hours ago

The Don is done. Lindsey and Mitch and their Dem co-conspirators will be thrilled to get back to business as usual. Motives aside he did change things a bit in between hiring and firing everyone in sight.

To much of a rocky ride Washington doesn't like that no criminal enterprise does.

Don't cry for Don he'll bounce back this is a man who lost three casinos then went on to hawking steaks and finally ended up as President. A real life 21st. century Jack Armstrong. He can write a book play some golf, Melania can go on doing her Eva Gabor impersonation and Don Jr. and Eric can do whatever it is they do. And as for us we're all on a slow boat to China most likely to work at one of those Sino-Ivanka Fashion Inc. factories.

MorningStar , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:15 am GMT • 16.4 hours ago

Big Brother has spoken. Even Fox News has kicked Trump's ass into the shithole and called the election for Biden. Tucker Carlson may also be looking for the exit or he has been instructed to change his tune if he wants to keep his job which in all likelihood he will comply. Trump lovers and sympathisers better face up to the bitter reality and take to the hill to prepare a defense against brutal persecution by their enemies who will come after them with unimaginable passion right after Jan 20, 2021. They already have THE LIST and names are being added to it fast and furious. Bread and circus, people!

Justsaying , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:20 am GMT • 16.3 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Come on, get real. American voters were presented with two donkeys and puppets of Israel as candidates. Millions voted for one or the other of two donkeys both of whom dance to the beat of Jewish drums. Come to think about it, which American president in recent memory has not outfawned his predecessor on Israel? Jewish power owns us. End of.

Meimou , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:32 am GMT • 16.1 hours ago

@All trumpers

This fiasco is scripted....

Ray Caruso , says: November 11, 2020 at 8:53 am GMT • 14.8 hours ago

Tucker Carlson said, " At this stage , the fraud that we can confirm does not seem to be enough to alter the election result." That's a far cry from, "There's not enough fraud to change the election results." Newsweek's paraphrasing is, therefore, itself fraudulent and part of the gigantic Democrat gaslighting campaign to convince the nation Joe Biden is the legitimate winner. It should not be repeated here without the actual quote and a caveat.

This also goes to the wider issue of trying to be reasonable and fair when dealing with Democrat cockroaches who are anything but. They will unfailingly distort measured and diplomatic language. It's best to make no concessions to them.

gotmituns , says: November 11, 2020 at 9:38 am GMT • 14.0 hours ago

I don't give a rat's butt about trump or biden. As far as I'm concerned they'll always be two draft dodger/shirkers and nothing more. Interesting how both of them hid in college in the 60's and refused to serve as privates in the army but think they should be able to have the power to send men in harms way.

Verymuchalive , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:06 am GMT • 12.6 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Actually, the Zionists and the Jewish vote generally were overwhelmingly for Biden. They were very hostile to Trump. Why would they do this if Trump were a Zionist minion ? Because he's not.

Trump wants to normalise relations with Russia and pull US troops out of the Middle East, including Syria. These moves are very much opposed to Zionist aims and the interests of Israel. Unsurprisingly, Netanyahu was very quick to recognise Biden as the winner. That's because Biden really is a Zionist minion.

Timur The Lame , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:16 am GMT • 12.4 hours ago
@Roacheforque every TDS normie discussed it like it had a real chance of occurring despite not having thought out how exactly how such a ridiculous event would take place on a practical level. Added to which the 'homey' comments coming from diaper Bill and Kameltoe Harris have a overly saccharine flavour to them, more likely scripted with great thought put in as opposed to spontaneous quotes from some gosh darn nice people who want to heal the nation such that anyone trying to prevent them from doing so necessarily must be evil.

If the Zerohedge article is accurate, thank you for posting it. If it has weaknesses perhaps some poster could point them out. It is the most sane thing that I have read on the topic since the 3rd.

Cheers-

Tommy Thompson , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:24 am GMT • 12.3 hours ago

No Surrender! President Trump Should Not Concede -- No Matter What

Sure just like Hillary should not have conceded in 2016, when they had strong evidence of electronic vote rigging.

Look either way the Banker Oligarchs win. Why fight over the scraps, neither one party or leader represents the little guy (defined these days as those with less than 100m USD in assets).

The Zio Banking elite wins hands down right now Biden or Trump. At least Biden might keep some social services like Soc Sec, Medicare, and Obama Care!!!! Yes the public deserves to get something for paying all these taxes not just the Oligarchial super rich who were openly looting the Fed budget under Trump. The unthinking and unemployed working/middle class, especially the Whites amongst them seem to put their crisis of identity ahead of their well being. Daaah.

What did Trump (led by his handlers Kushner/Ivanka) do for the little guy except fill their heads with racial antagonisms and anti-government innuendo (some true but most false). For sure he fulfilled every Zio-Israeli fantasy at the expense of US interests. Yes, no problem for the unquestioning MAGA types, but where did he lead America to, to the precipice of a pending national disaster?

So stop tearing down the constitutional republic, preserve what the general public still has left to protect their individual rights and economic well being. Obviously the elite is pushing for civil unrest so they can bring on a military and dictatorial regime, where all sorts of new control straps can be implemented.

Kirkpatrick you are shameful for stoking the embers of civil unrest! Nobody is calling for unity and statesmen like leadership these days on RU report. Biden is looking much more leader like than cry baby Trump. Trump as you like to say -- -- -- -- – YOUR FIRED!!!!! Man-up and get out and move on and get a life.

Only idiots and fools still want to carry Fake and Slimy Politicians on top of their shoulders. Find some brains and lobby for your own interests, no politician in this system will work for you unless forced to by their electorate.

GeeBee , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:35 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago

[Reflections on the late election, by Curtis Yarvin, Gray Mirror, November 8, 2020].

Because I began my journey to 'red-pilled' awareness thanks to Curtis 'Mencius Moldbug' Yarvin, I naturally clicked on the link and read his piece. One has travelled far since reading his 'Unqualified Reservations' blog way back on 2007-08, and I now agree with much of Andrew Joyce's recent critique of Yarvin ( https://www.unz.com/article/jews-in-the-cathedral-a-response-to-curtis-yarvin/ )

However, I frequently chuckled while reading Yarvin's piece linked by James Kirkpatrick, and marvelled anew at the quality and brilliance of his insights. In this regard it rather took me back in time twelve or so years.

A sample or two:

After describing how Trump could legally take full and absolute personal power for the length of his second term, Yarvin points out that what is required amounts to nothing less than 'regime change', and states that 'A true regime change must be a revolution in every sense of the word Of course, since the right is order and the left is chaos, the left-wing revolution is a butcher and the right-wing revolution is a surgeon. If ours needs to keep its bandages on for a few days, theirs can barely be sold as hamburger. And even before her stitches are out, America feels and looks better than ever.'

He goes on:

'One lesson that should be appreciated by all sides in all civic conflicts is that force is not another word for violence. Force is the opposite of violence. Violence is bad, and force is good. Violence is chaos, and force is order. Violence is slow and force is fast.

'If you can win by force, what are you waiting for? Do it immediately. If you can't win without violence, you probably can't win at all, and you probably shouldn't try. Much bloodshed could be saved if all young persons were educated with these simple and timeless Machiavellian principles'.

And earlier, he explains the role of elections in a 'democracy' as being to assess the power of each side's support, and that this power ought to reflect actual physical strength and or courage, remarking:

'The fundamental purpose of a democratic election is to test the strength of the sides in a civil conflict, without anyone actually getting hurt. The majority wins because the strongest side would win. Better to measure that by counting heads, than knocking heads; and counting heads produces a reasonable guess as to who would win a head-knocking contest. Same outcome, fewer concussions: a Pareto optimization.

'But this guess is much better if it actually measures humans who are both willing and able to walk down the street and show up. Anyone who cannot show up at the booth is unlikely to show up for the civil war. This is one of many reasons that an in-person election is a more accurate election. (If voters could be qualified by physique, it would be even more accurate.)

'My sense is that in many urban communities, voting by proxy in some sense is the norm. The people whose names are on the ballots really exist; and almost all of them actually did support China Joe. Or at least, preferred him. The extent to which they perform any tangible political action, including physically going to the booth, is very low; so is their engagement with the political system. The demand for records of their engagement is very high, because each such datum cancels out some huge, heavily-armed redneck with a bass boat.'

Great stuff!

God's Fool , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:40 am GMT • 12.0 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Even with the gift of Jerusalem they're out to get him you simply can't trust them!

Emslander , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:44 am GMT • 11.9 hours ago

He governed like a conventional Republican while talking like a nationalist, the worst of both worlds

Precisely. Still, Biden didn't win. Time for it all to come down anyway, if only because of the financial collapse looming.

Emslander , says: November 11, 2020 at 11:46 am GMT • 11.9 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Your obsession with Jews is really misplaced here. As soon as anyone starts blaming the Jews, that person has immediately branded himself unfit for further comment.

potemkin villiage bank , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:09 pm GMT • 11.5 hours ago

The purpose of Main Scream Media fake polls

was

to disguise massive ballot rigging on the day of the zombie apocalypse election

Had it not been for President Trumps massive rallies in Pennsylvania the stitch up might have worked

The demobrats wish to turn the USA into a soddem and gomocracy with male in voting for themasses

AKINDLE , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT • 11.3 hours ago

Trump had four years to do something about election fraud. Didn't do a thing. Kinda funny Trump and those Senator Georgians that sucked up to blacks thought blacks would actually vote for them. Georgia and trump lost! Maybe taught them a lesson! I doubt it. Georgia has been overrun with Hispanics and absolutely flooded with H-1B Indians for years too . The GOP has committed suicide and taken the rest of America down with it. But hey, they made a few bucks doing it! Maybe trump can do another publicity stunt with a rapper to save his campaign.

Katrinka , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:33 pm GMT • 11.1 hours ago

The problems with the election are just a mirror image of the problems with this country. Fake money, fake border, fake pandemic, fake scholarship, fake news, fake food, fake votes. Did I miss anything?

sally , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:41 pm GMT • 11.0 hours ago
@TheTrumanShow ll decide. and failing that, the congress shall decide.. If a candidate interferes with that constitutional process, changes or alters it to suit a personal circumstance, he or she invites the crowd operated guillotine, i fear.

I agree the election process in many states is subject to corruption.. but Trump had four years to change that process. like most things he did not provide the leadership needed to get the masses to help him do just that.. Now Trump complains ..to the very people who expected more from him .. and seeks to circumvent their intentions. I hope not?

I learned long ago: the pilot that does not pay the mechanic, pays the undertaker, when the engine quits at 15000 feet.

Adrian , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:44 pm GMT • 10.9 hours ago

I am an Australian living in an Australian country town. My email address is recognisably Australian. I have never lived in the US. I have never even been there in fact.

Yet I have been inundated with election propaganda from the Democrats (from the other side nary a peep).

Recently an organisation that goes under the name "Fight for Reform"invited me, as a "Top Democrat in your state", to sign a card to congratulate "Joe and Kamala" testyifying that I too had been crying "tears of joy" about their election.

When I didn't react I was asked, virtually the day after, why I hadn't done so. They were "running low on support from"registered Democrats" "so please

Jake , says: November 11, 2020 at 12:59 pm GMT • 10.7 hours ago
@Greatequalizerr

Well, if you think that Biden and Harris will serve Israel any less than Trump, then you should be willing to purchase my Jewless estate of 500,000 acres in NY, which comes with 6000 square foot fully restored 19th century house, a 2500 square foot guest house, and a horse barn. It also comes with both a real pond and a ce- ment pond. I'm asking only $600,000. It's a steal of a bargain.

Frankie P , says: November 11, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@Emslander

In other words, according to you, the Jews as individuals, organizations, or as a people may never be blamed for anything. Methinks it is YOU wearing the brand that says "unfit for further comment".

geokat62 , says: November 11, 2020 at 2:16 pm GMT • 9.4 hours ago

Ultimately, the entire battle is about who is sovereign in this country -- American citizens or

LOL! I haven't seen the words "sovereignty" and "American people" in the same sentence for quite some time. Unfortunately, this phenomenon is not simply restricted to American people, as it applies to all peoples of the West.

We must muster the will to shift this balance of power.

Old and Grumpy , says: November 11, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT • 8.7 hours ago
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Whining about jail time over tax laws is why Trump has to fight? He can tell us deplorables it is for us. Its not. It will be about preserving his empire. As much as I want the corrupt PA democrats to finally get theirs in this legal process, I support Trump in his fight for himself. If you twerps are allowed to destroy someone like a President Trump, just imagine what you will do to a mere lunch lady for using the wrong pronoun. Please for once in your miserable life admit your side is not made up of good people but rather a whole bunch of totalitarian dictatorial wannabes. Scarily you keep moving the goalposts of your endgame because every victory is never enough to satiate the rumble in your hollow souls.

[Nov 12, 2020] Saw the Lt. Gov. of PA on YahooNews and he is in complete denial

Nov 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Jim in MN , 1 hour ago

Saw the Lt. Gov. of PA on YahooNews (? I guess it's a channel), complete POS in complete denial. Complete with condescending BS and 'refusing to even accept that question' when the reasonably nice reporter asked him how he could govern with half the people not trusting him .

LVrunner , 1 hour ago

Was Wolf elected in 2018?

Lie_Detector , 2 hours ago

Every transaction needs to be video recorded in DETAIL! The cost of video recording NATION WIDE would be no more than a billion dollars. Cameras above the ballot counters would be used to VALIDATE ANY ballot. The video feeds would be saved for future challenges. It would be the BEST investment ever made. The trouble is getting the dems on board. That is because it would make cheating hard. They are a fraud, evil and enemies of America and the constitution.

radical-extremist , 2 hours ago

The trouble is privacy. You can bet the ACLU would have that in front of the Supremes in a week.

We'd have to agree to public ballots.

[Nov 12, 2020] McEnany Unveils 234 Pages Of Affidavits Alleging Election Irregularities In Michigan -

Nov 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Mimi Nguyen Ly via The Epoch Times,

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany late Tuesday announced 234 pages of what she said were sworn affidavits alleging election irregularities in a county in Michigan .

McEnany appeared alongside Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel on Fox News' "Hannity," where she shared several allegations listed in the affidavits -- statements made under penalty of perjury - from Wayne County.

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"We keep hearing the drumbeat of 'where is the evidence?' Right here, Sean, 234 pages of sworn affidavits, these are real people, real allegations, signed with notaries," McEnany said.

"They're alleging - this is one county, Wayne County, Michigan - they are saying that there was a batch of ballots where 60 percent had the same signature," she told host Sean Hannity.

"They're saying that 35 ballots had no voter record but they were counted anyway, that 50 ballots were run multiple times through a tabulation machine."

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McEnany also shared details of another affidavit where a woman alleged that "her son was deceased but nevertheless somehow voted."

"These are one of many many allegations in one county, and a county no less, where poll watchers were in many cases threatened with racial harassment, they were pushed out of the way, and Democrat challengers were handing out documents, how to distract GOP challengers," she continued.

"These are real, and anyone who cares about transparency and the integrity of the system should want this to pursue to the discovery phase."

On Monday, President Donald Trump's reelection campaign filed a suit in Wayne County Circuit Court alleging voter fraud in ballot-counting procedures. The suit alleges county election officials allowed various fraudulent processing of votes, including telling poll workers to backdate ballots and not verify signatures on absentee ballots. Several witnesses have filed sworn affidavits attesting to alleged election fraud. The plaintiffs, two poll challengers, are seeking a temporary restraining order on ballot counting. The case is pending.

Late Tuesday, the Trump campaign announced the filing of a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court in the Western District of Michigan that alleges pervasive election irregularities and violations in Wayne County and seeks a review of the Dominion Voting software which caused glitches in several states.

A number of media outlets declared Democratic nominee Joe Biden president-elect on Nov. 7 after they projected victories for him in Pennsylvania and Nevada, putting him over the 270 electoral vote threshold, although the vote counts have not been completed in those states. Vote counts also continue in Georgia and Arizona. Georgia and Wisconsin will have recounts of the votes, where results initially yielded a Biden lead.

Trump has alleged voter fraud and said any declarations of victory are premature, with his campaign having launched multiple legal challenges in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and Michigan. The president said on Tuesday that his campaign is making progress and said that he will ultimately be declared the winner of the 2020 election .

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RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel speaks during a press conference at the Republican National Committee headquarters in Washington on Nov. 9, 2020. (Samuel Corum/Getty Images)

McDaniel told Hannity that the Trump campaign has received 11,000 incident reports and has compiled at least 500 affidavits from witnesses across various states.

"It is a long process and people need to be patient. The media keeps saying 'where's the evidence, where's the evidence,' because they're not giving us time to show it," she said.

"But even the evidence we're putting forward they're deciding 'oh we're not going to report it' or 'we're going to break away from press conferences' and we don't want to hear from these 500 people who have signed affidavits talking about what they saw with this election."

McDaniel's comments come after Fox News late Monday swiftly cut away from airing a briefing by the Trump campaign , after McEnany appeared to allege that the Democrat Party had been involved in election fraud. The outlet claimed that McEnany did not have details to back up her allegations.

The Epoch Times isn't calling the race until the legal battles are resolved , all results are certified, and the Electoral College votes are cast.

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Maxx99 , 1 hour ago

Trump did not lose, he was cheated out of a second term by the democrats.

This is the most enlightening video I've seen over the past week. A PHD from MIT (Dr.Shiva) explains why the voting pattern in Michigan is an algorithm set to take votes away from Trump and give them to Biden. Dr. Shiva shows charts by counties that clearly reveals corruption and how the software was programmed so it would be impossible for Trump to win. If this video already hasn't been sent to Rudy and the Trump team, it needs to be. here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk

If you don't have time to watch the whole video, start it at 31:07 and you'll see the charts that show how Trump was cheated.

Arthor Bearing , 11 minutes ago

Dr. Shiva! You know a guy is trustworthy when he repeats his credentials at the beginning of every single video of his. He insinuates a lot but the votes are subject to audit and hand-counting if Trump and his team decide to do so, something Shiva glosses over.

Also, on the article above, sworn affadavits aren't admissible into evidence when they are arguing "facts that are in issue," because in order to be admissible, evidence has to be subject to cross-examination. That's a foundational rule of evidence. So McEnany saying "here's your evidence right here" is just her spouting more ********. None of that will be admissible in court. Depositions, where opposing counsel is present and can cross-examine, are admissible for facts in issue.

[Nov 12, 2020] Georgia announces a hand recount of the state's presidential election results - Twitter

Nov 12, 2020 | twitter.com

On Wednesday, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced that the state will conduct a full hand recount of the state's 2020 presidential election results amid claims of voter fraud from President Trump's reelection claim.

What you need to know – Raffensperger announced on Wednesday that Georgia will conduct a full audit and by-hand recount of the state's presidential election results – The secretary of state anticipates the recount to conclude by the state's November 20 election certification deadline – Raffensperger urged Georgians to report instances of alleged voter fraud, adding that his office needs "something that we can actually investigate"

[Nov 11, 2020] In 2016 Wayne county Michigan (Detroit) couldn't duplicate their results during the Jill Stein ordered recount. 37% of the precincts demonstrated that they double-counted ballots by running them through the scanners multiple times.

Nov 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

otschelnik , 2 hours ago

In 2016 Wayne county Michigan (Detroit) couldn't duplicate their results during the Jill Stein ordered recount. 37% of the precincts demonstrated that they double-counted ballots by running them through the scanners multiple times.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/

Robert De Zero , 1 hour ago

Biden has 47 years of practice, he's gotten used to it...

LVrunner , 1 hour ago

I don't think they care. They are delusional psychopaths and only care about power and greed.

Robert De Zero , 1 hour ago

As usual, right on target LVrunner. Psychopath's believe in some ordained right that justifies any action, without guilt. The ends always justify the means, for a psychopath. They are OWED it.

LVrunner , 1 hour ago

I'm still surprised the Bernie bro's accepted being cheated twice. What were they promised? That if Bernie backed out he would be pulling the strings from behind? With the push of the green new deal it sure looks that way. It's all too surreal.

[Nov 11, 2020] Dems in 2016 vs Dems in 2020

Nov 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

aliens is here , 2 hours ago

Dems in 2016: We don't need evidence to show Trump colluded with Russia.

Dems in 2020: Biden won. There is no evidence of voter fraud.

[Nov 11, 2020] People voting from the grave

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@KDKA look at these 200 years old people that voted smh. This is all types of fraud, and they put it out for the public to see! And this is only a small amount of them, the list goes on ..... how ya'll cant see this is beside me
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[Nov 11, 2020] The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity - National Crack-Up- US Attorney General Barr To Investigate Vote Fraud!

Nov 11, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

The announcement that the US Justice Department would be looking into some aspects of last week's election has elicited screaming and wailing from those convinced that Biden's win is a slam-dunk. Would the mainstream media resistance to investigating possible fraud be the same had Trump appeared to pull off a second term? Also today, is Biden breaking the law by speaking with foreign leaders about what a Biden Administration foreign policy would look like? The answer might surprise you. Watch today's Liberty Report:

[Nov 11, 2020] Rep. Guy Reschenthaler to Newsmax TV- 'Fraud' Was Involved in Pa. Vote Count - Newsmax.com

Nov 11, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

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"Fraud" was definitely at play in Pennsylvania's vote count, and Republicans have the facts to back that up, according to Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., on Newsmax TV.

"We know that there are facts in place that show there was fraud," Reschenthaler told Tuesday's " American Agenda ." "How much fraud? That's a questions that needs to be fought out in the court. But it's irrefutable that there was fraud that took place. We have sworn affidavits.

"A sworn affidavit is the definition of evidence."

"We have evidence at play that says supervisors in Erie [Pennsylvania] at the Post Office were told to backdate ballots that were coming in," he continued, adding in Philadelphia, "we as Republicans were kept out of the count of those absentee ballots.

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"You had what Democrats referred to as treasure troves that were found in Western Pennsylvania in the Pittsburgh area," he said. "Those ballots were predominately straight-party votes for the Democrats. It is statistically, incredibly improbable, that all those ballots that the Democrats were finding went with that large of a margin for Biden and the straight-party ticket."

[Nov 10, 2020] Ted Cruz Calls for Investigation of Voting Machine Software - CauseACTION Clarion

Nov 10, 2020 | clarion.causeaction.com

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas.) said in an interview that aired Sunday that he believes an investigation should be launched into software used to count ballots amid concerns of election irregularities.

The Republican senator told Fox News that the same software that was linked to an incident in which votes were switched in a county in Michigan should be investigated to rule out potential vote tabulation issues elsewhere in the country.

Antrim County in Michigan, which uses voting machines by Dominion Voting Systems, flipped from Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden to President Donald Trump after over 5,000 votes were found to have been incorrectly registered for Biden.

"That same software is used in 47 counties throughout Michigan," Cruz said . "That needs to be examined to determine that there isn't a problem counting the votes. And the legal process is how you resolve those questions."

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson said in a statement that the problem ballots in Antrim County were due to human error, not a software malfunction.

"The erroneous reporting of unofficial results from Antrim county was a result of accidental error on the part of the Antrim County Clerk," she said. "The equipment and software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. However, the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results."

Dominion Voting Systems didn't immediately respond to a requests for comments from The Epoch Times.

Benson added that even if the incident of incorrectly tabulated votes hadn't been quickly flagged, it would have been noticed during the county canvass.

"As with other unofficial results reporting errors, this was an honest mistake and did not affect any actual vote totals," she said. "Election clerks work extremely hard and do their work with integrity. They are human beings, and sometimes make mistakes. However, there are many checks and balances that ensure mistakes can be caught and corrected."

Cruz, in his interview, said the software should be examined in order to definitively rule out any possibility of vote tabulation problems and to allay concerns of voters amid an election that is facing claims of fraud.

"If there is a glitch that's built into the software system, it'll be shown and it's easy to define that," Cruz said. "I think this is a great exercise to get back the trust of the American people."

"You know, one of the frustrating things just as an American watching this, you hear all these allegations of what's going on, it's hard to know what the facts are, what the truth is," Cruz said, adding that allegations of voter fraud "could easily end up in the Supreme Court."

Biden was declared by a number of media outlets as president-elect on Saturday and has claimed victory in the presidential race.

Trump has alleged voter fraud and said any declarations of victory are premature, with his campaign announcing a raft of legal challenges.

"The simple fact is this election is far from over," Trump said in a statement. "Joe Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor."

"Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media," Trump added.

The Epoch Times is not calling the race until all legal challenges are resolved .

Rep. Paul Gosar Calls on Arizona Officials to 'Investigate the Accuracy' of the Dominion Ballot Software After Reports of 'Glitches' November 7, 2020 In "Breitbart News"

Georgia Counties Using Same Software as Michigan Counties Also Encounter 'Glitch' November 7, 2020 In "Breitbart News"

Software that 'Glitched' in MI, GA, Incorrectly Gave Biden 1000s of Votes, Used in 28 States November 7, 2020 In "Breitbart News"

[Nov 10, 2020] How many Republican challengers to democrat Senators and House seats were cheated by the Dominion software that was used in over 30 states???

Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

DeplorableChump/sarc... Deplorable Texan 6 hours ago

...How many Republican challengers to democrat Senators and House seats were cheated by the Dominion software that was used in over 30 states???

[Nov 10, 2020] The explanations of the "glitches" are ridiculous, and the "glitches" were detected in one county but apply to software used in 47 counties plus the entire state of Georgia.

Nov 10, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
Annie from Alaska Paul's Letters 12 hours ago

The explanations of the "glitches" are ridiculous, and the "glitches" were detected in one county but apply to software used in 47 counties plus the entire state of Georgia.

The way the "glitches" were detected was luck, or a huge mistake on the part of the fraudsters.

You may be right. Or it may all come crashing down in the automatically-triggered recount. Or the political machine may succeed in doing a fake recount without observers and shutting the book on this. We'll see.

[Nov 10, 2020] One Dominion unit having a glitch is a glitch. Multiple Dominions across multiple states and scores of counties having glitches all in favor of the same candidate is corruption. Pure and simple.

Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Casio 16 hours ago

One Dominion unit having a glitch is a glitch. Multiple Dominions across multiple states and scores of counties having glitches all in favor of the same candidate is corruption. Pure and simple.

On zero evidence, a manufactured dossier, and a frenzied TDS media, Trump was hounded for almost 3 years with investigations. Now in 2020, with a mountain of evidence, we're about to have a true investigation of true election interference.

RIP Alex Trabek, 1940-2020. 80 years old. A great life.

Congressman Sims (D-PA) 7 hours ago

Dominion disagrees with these findings, stating that multiple large local governments across the country -- such Cook County, Illinois, which includes Chicago, and San Francisco and San Diego counties in California -- have purchased their system.

HA! That's damning right there!

Bug In A Jar 8 hours ago • edited

Why do the same names keep popping up, wherever controversy is? Feinstein, Pelosi and the Clinton Global Initiative

1) Dianne Feinstein's husband owns 60% percent of the Dominion Voting company
2) Nancy Pelosi's longest serving aide is now a Lobbyist for the Dominion Voting company
3) Dominion Voting makes philanthropic contributions to the CGI (Clinton Global Initiative)

Posted by "The Gateway Pundit" on November 8, 2020:

https://www.thegatewaypundi... notanostrich 9 hours ago

Stop calling it a "glitch." Computers do what they are programmed to do...this is fraud.

[Nov 10, 2020] Software engineers were stunned that Dominion updated the system the night before. Stunned.

Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Daisiemae Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 7 hours ago

My husband was a mainframe IT professional for 40 years. His department maintained 401k systems for BOA's corporate clients.

He said you NEVER implement a system at the last minute. You do system testing repeatedly over a long period of time to make sure the program is working correctly.

He was stunned when I told him they updated the system the night before. Stunned.

When they did system updates at Merril Lynch/BOA, they worked on it for months and did numerous test runs before putting it into operation.

onemad scientist Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 3 hours ago • edited

If they had access to update the software the night before the vote, they had access during the voting process, as well as after. Changes could be made in real-time. How secure was the VPN access?

Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable onemad scientist 2 hours ago

VPN access is secure. But that assumes someone without authorization to VPN in to the machines (like the manufacturer) will have access to each machine no matter what. A VPN only stops or slows down an unauthorized access.

Deplorable Texan Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable7 hours ago

And Texas rejected Dominion,

BugBite Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 9 hours ago • edited

It also "updated" DURING the election as well. You cannot say the software is fine, while also saying that votes were SWITCHED by :glitches".

If there are glitches, then the software is NOT working correctly.

Also notice the states they claim it has been working just fine in, Ca and Il, two totally DEMOCTAT controlled states.

From what we have now seen, we may now also know WHY they are democrat control states!

[Nov 10, 2020] An interesting definition of the "new normal": having very suspecious Dominion software in voting machine , corporate media doing a witch hunt on Trump for 5 years

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

c.d. Peric , says: November 10, 2020 at 10:27 am GMT • 10.9 hours ago

@gay troll

Joe won because of our "new normal".

"New normal" as in: having Dominion software flip votes from Trump to Biden, corporate media doing a witch hunt on Trump for 5 years, MSM lying about everything from George Floyd not dying from a drug overdose, MSM literally fanning the flames to incite a race war? I could go on.

You're a sick minded troll I give you that.

[Nov 10, 2020] The NYT article on Barr's salvo reveals the Democrats and their Allied Media shift from the no longer defendable "No evidence of voter fraud," to no evidence that the fraud was "widespread."

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

MLK , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 7.2 hours ago

@MLK

By the way, the NYT article on Barr's salvo reveals the Democrats and their Allied Media shift from the no longer defendable "No evidence of voter fraud," to no evidence that the fraud was "widespread."

In other words, "Forget about PA. We don't need it." But while their Allied Media will of course dutifully abide, Trump pulled the lawsuit trigger yesterday. More are coming soon. Including WI and MI.

Thus it's a mistake to think that Biden being declared the winner in AZ and GA, with the attendant "both controlled by Republicans!" shouting, will abort the process now in motion.

[Nov 10, 2020] James O'Keefe Releases Video Exposing Ballot Destruction in Pennsylvania, Immediately Gets Censored by Twitter - Big League Politics

Nov 10, 2020 | bigleaguepolitics.com

Project Veritas founder James O'Keefe has been censored again by Twitter shortly after releasing a video of a whistleblower attesting to voter irregularities in Pennsylvania. The video can still be accessed on Facebook at the present time.

The video pertains to spoiled ballots being handled in an unlawful manner with their destruction by Pennsylvania elections workers against protocol. Pennsylvania Board of Elections Director Tom Freitag confirmed in the video that the law was not followed.

The video opens with an ominous quote: "During this very important time, those involved in the voter count PA investigation should know that they won't have all their spoiled ballots to use in their official recount."

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A Project Veritas journalist rummaged through a couple of garbage bags from the Bucks County Board of Elections. They had been thrown into a dumpster and contained pieces of ballots that appeared to be spoiled and discarded against regulations. Freitag ensured that the ballots were authentic, blaming the rule-breaking activity on "ignorance" of the "brand new law."

"Whoever was the judge of elections didn't do it correctly," Freitag said to confirm that the law had not been followed by certain Pennsylvania election workers.

"The poll worker should have not thrown it in the garbage," he added. Freitag said that these spoiled ballots should have been retained for years and then shredded.

Big League Politics has reported on the censorship that O'Keefe is receiving for merely exposing abnormalities with regards to the election process:

Project Veritas founder James O'Keefe was recently locked out of his Twitter account for a nine-month-old tweet that supposedly violated a copyright shortly after he uncovered a Democrat ballot harvesting scheme operating out of Minneapolis, Minn. tied to Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN).

The revelations demonstrated how the Somali-dominated areas of Minneapolis are rife with fraud, showing how importing the third world can negatively impact electoral integrity in the U.S.

O'Keefe was temporarily locked out of his account and unable to promote the ballot harvesting story for a short period. However, he eventually had functionality restore to his Twitter account. He believes the censorship is proving what a massive impact he is having in exposing the globalist establishment.

"They couldn't even provide proof of a legitimate reason and point to the tweet in question!" O'Keefe wrote in a Tweet after returning to the social media platform.

"Some "copyright violation" and they wouldn't even show the tweet in question," he continued.

"[Project Veritas] has the tech overlords rattled we're winning," O'Keefe added

Big Tech is heavily invested in the Democrat vote steal against President Trump. These powerful globalist interests hope to pull off their anti-Trump color revolution in broad daylight and rape U.S. democracy in the process.

O'Keefe's journalism is necessary to hold this corrupt process in line. His work may be relevant in the upcoming court battle that will decide the future of the presidency.

[Nov 10, 2020] Sidney Powell says they sued Hammer and Scorecard to alter the numbers digitally: Isn't it odd that none of that deluge of mail-in ballots for biden translated into votes for the senatorial candidate on the same ballot.

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

Robert Dolan , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:47 pm GMT • 6.6 hours ago

No doubt many of the mail in ballots were illegitimate, but it's even worse ..

Sidney Powell says they sued Hammer and Scorecard to alter the numbers digitally.

She says the CIA/military have used these methods to wreck elections all over the world.

The takeaway is that there is no way to tell if an election is on the up and up.

Elections can never again be trusted. A number of goofballs like to mention that voter fraud has always been done, but .it has never been done so brazenly and on such a huge scale ..
this was in your face fraud ..this is to inform us that we no longer have ANY say in what happens to our country.

Hell, the Covid hoax is the same kind of clue ..they can do whatever they want to us .and for the most part people will take it.

Schumer is bragging that he intends to take the Senate, add two states, pack the supreme court, end the filibuster one party rule FOREVER.

FoSquare , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:53 pm GMT • 6.5 hours ago
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Isn't it odd that none of that deluge of mail-in ballots for biden translated into votes for the senatorial candidate on the same ballot. Apparently in Georgia biden received nearly 100,000 more votes than the senatorial candidate on the same ticket, an extraordinary discrepancy. Trump is said to have received fewer than 1,000 more votes than the senatorial candidate on the same ticket, more or less in line with historical norms. In Michigan, biden received 69,000 more votes than the senatorial candidate – again, extraordinarily disproportionate.

No, a lot more is at play here than the mail-in vote favoring the democratic candidate.

El Dato , says: November 10, 2020 at 4:52 pm GMT • 4.5 hours ago
@Robert Dolan

Sidney Powell says they sued Hammer and Scorecard to alter the numbers digitally.

She says the CIA/military have used these methods to wreck elections all over the world.

Software is not magic. Unlike shown in "Independence Day", it has to actually interface with the remote system.

"One software to control them all" doesn't exist. Or if it does, it takes the form of the guy in charge entering fresh numbers into the database by hand.

[Nov 10, 2020] Flynn's attorney Sidney Powell has been put in charge of Trump's legal team investigating the irregularities during the election

Nov 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 9 2020 9:21 utc | 116

Flynn's attorney has been put in charge of Trump's legal team investigating the irregularities during the election:

Sunday Talks – Sidney Powell Discusses Election Fraud: "We have identified 450,000 ballots in key states, that magically only voted for Biden"

Interview with Sidney Powell

Despite the best efforts of some here to put everyone back to sleep it looks like things are going to hot up this week,

[Nov 10, 2020] This Election Is Not Over... And The Media Knows It -

Nov 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

This Election Is Not Over... And The Media Knows It


by Tyler Durden Sun, 11/08/2020 - 22:50 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Jay Valentine via AmericanThinker.com,

Like many, I spent the last few nights waking up at 2:03 A.M., no reason, then looking at my phone for news, any news, that might be positive for President Trump. I survived on Rush, Bongino, Mark Levin. When the news continued to be ugly, I even checked in on ridiculous bloggers promising that ballots were watermarked and D.J. (our household name for a president we love) was actually launching a sting on the Deep State.

Enough already. Stop the madness.

Hey, I have a degree in statistics, and I have some level of critical thought. If there is such pessimism in my tribe, I am not going along.

So today, I started to dig into the numbers, and as I did, I fought my confirmation bias at every step.

I realized that I, like millions of others, had been numbed into despondency by the overwhelming press, media, social media push to certify President-Elect Biden. (I put that in there so you can see how repellent it is.)

Hey guys, this thing is not only not over; it is scary for Biden. I mean really scary, and most of all, the media know it. Thus, the rush to get everyone in line with the narrative that a 78-year-old, early-dementia former V.P., who could not draw a crowd larger than a dozen, just beat D.J. in a fair election.

Process that for a moment.

Start with Pennsylvania . Biden, as of this writing, is at 290 electoral votes. Pennsylvania is 20.

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I read the Justice Alito opinion, and it is pretty clear that he wants the after election night at 8:00 P.M . votes separated for a reason. Biden is going to lose at the Supreme Court, and they know it. Four justices already said the Pennsylvania Supreme Court cannot adjust voting rules. A new arrival, Justice Barrett, says she is there to apply the rules in the Constitution. OK, wanna bet she does?

Remove the after 8:00 P.M. ballots, and Biden loses Pennsylvania. Biden 270.

Let's visit Nevada . I have lots of friends in California who have condos in Nevada to evade state taxes. There are not a couple of people doing this; there are tens of thousands. Everyone knows it, and California seeks them out.

Our old pal Harry Reid knows it as well, and he apparently has them voting in droves in this election. Probably not a big D.J. constituency. Within 72 hours of the election, the Trump team found, validated over 3,500 of them. I do not suspect that Trump's people stopped counting.

Every one of these is a ballot reduction for Biden

Nevada, as of now, is well within reach for DJ and the Trump team -- particularly when the California crowd is reduced. And a few of them may testify since a false vote is a very bad thing, with jail time if convicted. Maybe a bigger story here.

Remember where we are, people. Biden is at 270 after a highly probable Supreme Court decision (read Alito and concurring opinions).

Lose Nevada, lose the election.

But wait: it gets better.

Let's visit Wisconsin . Right now, it is 20,000 votes in Uncle Joe's direction. Lots of stories out there, well below the Google fold, that there are way more Wisconsin votes than there are registered voters. OK, maybe the dead can vote up there -- probably a Midwest thing.

Well, last night, we found that Wisconsin election clerks were told, and followed the direction, to modify mail-in ballots and fill in the blanks where witnesses left out critical info.

I am sure it was just a good customer service thing and they meant no harm. The problem is every such ballot is now toast .

There were "thousands" of such prima facie wrongful votes. Oops. Biden up 20,000 -- now that number is in question. No more truckloads of votes coming in, so every ballot D.J.'s team eliminates gets President-Elect Biden on step closer to former V.P. Biden who lives in a basement. Not good here.

North Carolina . That one pretty much looks like as though it is over and D.J. won it. Fox News is rumored to call it for Trump around April 2021.

Remember where we are here. Biden is probably going to lose Pennsylvania, so if he loses even one state, even one Electoral College vote, ouch!

Either D.J. wins outright, or it goes to the House, which means that D.J. has four more years.

We're not done yet.

Michigan . Oh, yes, the land of the "glitches" in the voting machines. Six thousand votes for Trump given to Biden in one of 47 counties where that software is used. About 150,000 votes in Biden's favor right now.

Google the 130,000 Biden votes that showed up in the middle of the night, and you can see how the wonderful people at Google are fact-checking this "debunked" story. In fact, for fun, Google "Michigan voter fraud," and you get literally three pages of "this was fact checked and proven to be false." Why would Google be so assiduous?

They too see that if Amy votes with the four, Biden is one vote away from the basement.

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Lawsuits in Michigan and the other states are being launched, and discovery will take place. Google will not be there.

Voter fraud is kind of like larceny. A little is OK. It is even kind of entertaining.

Dead people have been voting for a hundred years in Democratic cities. It is such a constant that one would think the Republican Party would consider a Dead Voter Outreach program to get their share.

But voter fraud on this scale is just not sustainable. It does not pass the common sense test.

We have bloggers with lots of time on their hands going through voter rolls and showing that person after person who voted in a swing state also fought in the Civil War or maybe the War of 1812. It was funny at first, but the overwhelming number now goes beyond humor and rubs our faces in it.

I think D.J. has to swing one state. Actually, one electoral vote. Not only is this thing not over, but the Biden team must be sweating bullets.

Voter fraud at scale seemed like a really cool idea until D.J. went to the mattresses. Now that he is fighting it out one voter at a time, with the Supreme Court likely to create the starting point at Biden 270, Biden has everything to lose.

Perk up! Arch_Stanton , 1 day ago

130K ballots getting thrown out in Fulton county. GA goes to Trump.

The First Rule , 1 day ago

CIA's Hammer/Scorecard in Action-

SMOKING GUN: ELECTRONIC VOTE FRAUD CAUGHT LIVE ON CNN! #TheHammer #Scorecard (bitchute.com)

2:40 in the Video.

mvsjcl , 1 day ago

That link goes to a SGT Report video that's slightly misleading in that the video description states that the fraud depicted on the video occurred during this most recent election, when rather it happened in November of last year. Doesn't change the fact that apparently some kind of software exists which has the ability to switch votes from one candidate to another, as this is what appears to happen in real time on a CNN newscast captured in that video. Illuminating.

Roacheforque , 1 day ago

Without a doubt, Ga goes to Trump, and NC. He needs Pa to win, and he will get that one too. It's not like he hasn't described the attempted Coup, the Russian interference BS, the "impeachment" lunacy for 4 years of endless harassment, censorship and mainstream bias. Massive election fraud is just par for the course.

All so a bunch of greedy whores can get back to the business of being wined and dined by special interests to approve legislation designed to screw the US middle class (as usual).

And as for the "woke" idiots who don't have a ****in clue? There's no hope for those walking dead and their lockdown fantasy.

But Justice needs to root out the "blue wave" of evil and it's enablers in the borg technocracy.

[Nov 10, 2020] Pollak- The Republican Party Needs to Tackle Its Vote-by-Mail Problem

Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Vote-by-mail is the story of the 2020 election.

Republicans ran the most aggressive get-out-the-vote operation in U.S. history, bringing nearly 72 million voters to the polls. Despite that effort, they were swamped by mail-in-ballots that brought the Democrats nearly 76 million votes.

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Mass vote-by-mail was a change Democrats sought precisely because they knew it would give them the advantage. Republicans turned out the voters, and Democrats turned out the envelopes, and envelopes counted.

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The result highlights the fact that the two parties have fundamentally different approaches to voting.

Republicans consider voting to be a civic ritual, defined by a particular day and place, requiring some degree of personal commitment from voters.

Democrats consider voting to be away of registering a preference, no matter how subtle, and anything that makes expressing that preference more difficult -- including being able to prove that you are who you say you are -- is regarded with suspicion.

It should be noted that the Republican idea is closer to the international standard.

In most countries -- including poor, Third World countries -- voting happens on one day, and requires that voters be physically present in polling places, with photo ID. Absentee voting is restricted and must happen under similar conditions.

That is not "racist"; it is just realism. The potential for fraud is simply too great to allow people to vote by mail, or to trust their word when they say they are on the voter rolls.

The irony is that Republicans tend to believe the U.S. should follow its own standards, not those of some international body. But the U.S. has actually incorporated some global standards by ratifying the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). Article 25 says elections must be held by "secret ballot, guaranteeing the free expression of the will of the voters." Vote-by-mail violates this provision, because the name of the voter must at some point accompany the ballot itself.

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Democrats pushed vote-by-mail in 2020 because they argued that the coronavirus pandemic made voting in person riskier. Though the scientific evidence on that question is mixed, Republicans agreed that there should be more options for voting remotely.

But Republicans objected to mass, "automatic" vote-by-mail. Democrats sued in more than a dozen states to force the issue, and to lower the standards for mail-in-ballots. Judges, fearful of the pandemic, often acquiesced.

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Never before have the rules of voting changed in the middle of an election.

It was a change Democrats knew would benefit them. In states that already voted largely or wholly by mail -- California and Oregon, for example -- Democrats have controlled state politics for years.

This year, the party ran an experiment in a Wisconsin judicial election. It worked, and Democrats exported it elsewhere, aided by massive investments from Silicon Valley that built a large, urban vote-by-mail infrastructure.

Breitbart News had warned for months that vote-by-mail would become a major problem for Republicans, and for public trust in the election itself. Notably, the election lawyer leading many of Democrats' vote-by-mail cases, Marc Elias, is notorious for overturning elections that Republicans appear to have won, and for his role in the "Russia collusion" hoax. It was Elias and his firm, Perkins Coie, who hired Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele to dig up dirt against Trump in 2016.

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U.S. Attorney General William Barr also sounded the alarm. "[W]hen government, state governments start adopting these practices like mail-in ballots that open the floodgates of potential fraud, then people's confidence in the outcome of the election is going to be undermined," he predicted in June. He listed vote-by-mail along with creeping censorship as factors that were making the 2020 election worrisome.

He was right: 70% of Republicans say the election was not "free and fair."

Democrats also tried to make "ballot harvesting" -- the mass collection of ballots by party operatives -- legal nationwide, hiding it inside coronavirus relief legislation. They legalized the practice in California in 2016 -- long before coronavirus -- and used it to flip Republican seats in the 2018 midterm elections.

The federal bill never passed, but Democrats carried out what looked like "ballot harvesting" under another name -- mass vote-by-mail applications in nursing homes, for example.

Some Republicans were happy to vote by mail. But many were not, and for the same reason that experiments with "ballot harvesting" among Republicans have failed: Republican voters do not part easily with their ballots.

They distrust the U.S. Postal Service, for example, whose employees endorsed Democrat Joe Biden. More Republicans than Democrats also fear retribution if their political views are known, given the growing "cancel culture." To Republicans, the secret ballot is about personal safety.

President Donald Trump opposed vote-by-mail -- predicting , correctly, that it would help Democrats, and create confusion on Election Day. Early efforts by states like Nevada, which never used vote-by-mail before, were a disaster.

Later, realizing that he risked losing votes among frightened seniors, Trump encouraged people to vote by mail and verify their vote in person, if possible.

Some Republicans felt he made a strategic mistake by opposing vote-by-mail. Arguably, Trump had no choice.

When the votes were counted, Trump led by wide margins on Election Day, only to see those leads disappear as mailed-in ballots were counted -- a familiar experience for California Republicans. (Kamala Harris won her race for Attorney General that way.)

Experts were pleased that fewer vote-by-mail ballots were rejected than normal -- but that was at least partly the result of Democrats' lawsuits to lower standards. Republicans also claim that Democrats kept observers at an unfair distance.

The question is what to do next.

Republicans are going to court, and it is possible that the result will be overturned in one state, and perhaps more. But vote-by-mail is going to be a problem in the next election.

Republicans have two choices. One is to prohibit vote-by-mail nationwide, except for absentee ballots, perhaps citing U.S. treaty obligations under the ICCPR.

The other option is to accept vote-by-mail and find ways Republicans can use it to their advantage, or at least narrow the gap.

Shawn Steel, the Republican National Committeeman for California, pointed out to Breitbart News on Sunday that while the GOP was taken by surprise the first time "ballot harvesting" was used in his state, the party was far better prepared in 2020.

Instead of asking individual voters for their ballots, for example, Republicans put ballot collection boxes in churches, party offices, and businesses -- in institutions their voters trusted. Democrats threatened prosecution, but it was perfectly legal.

The result: Republicans did well in congressional elections in California, taking back two seats in Orange County and -- thus far -- defending seats elsewhere. Steel's wife, Michelle Steel, is heading to Congress from the 48th district, as is former state legislator Young Kim. They will be the first two Korean-American women in the U.S. House of Representatives -- and they are both Republicans. Moreover, while Democrats remained dominant statewide, they also lost several key ballot initiatives.

Vote-by-mail remains deeply problematic. In effect, it turns elections over to party operatives.

In the long term, the U.S. needs a system that satisfies Republican concerns about the secret ballot and voter fraud, on the one hand, while also satisfying Democratic concerns about access and voting rights, on the other.

In the meantime, the only answer is for Republicans -- and their donors -- to study California's example and exploit vote-by-mail in the upcoming Georgia Senate runoff, and beyond.

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News and the host of Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot on Sunday evenings from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. ET (4 p.m. to 7 p.m. PT). His newest e-book is The Trumpian Virtues: The Lessons and Legacy of Donald Trump's Presidency . His recent book, RED NOVEMBER , tells the story of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary from a conservative perspective. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak .

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FROM THE HOMEPAGE Andrew Cuomo: 'If I Wasn't Governor of New York, I Would've Decked' President Trump Andrew Cuomo: 'If I Wasn't Governor of New York, I Would've Decked' President Trump 1,899 Pompeo: 'There Will Be a Smooth Transition to a Second Trump Administration' Pompeo: 'There Will Be a Smooth Transition to a Second Trump Administration' 218 Watch: Footage Shows FNC's Sandra Smith Grimacing as Guest Questions Legitimacy of Election Watch: Footage Shows FNC's Sandra Smith Grimacing as Guest Questions Legitimacy of Election 1,402 Pollak: The Republican Party Needs to Tackle Its Vote-by-Mail Problem Pollak: The Republican Party Needs to Tackle Its Vote-by-Mail Problem 222 Texas Gov. Greg Abbott Doesn't Acknowledge Joe Biden Win, Calls for Recounts to Continue Texas Gov. Greg Abbott Doesn't Acknowledge Joe Biden Win, Calls for Recounts to Continue 144 GOP Sen. Ron Johnson: There Is 'Nothing' to Congratulate Joe Biden For GOP Sen. Ron Johnson: There Is 'Nothing' to Congratulate Joe Biden For 147 McConnell Stands Firm with Trump: Democrats Spent 'Four Years Refusing to Accept the Validity of the Last Election' McConnell Stands Firm with Trump: Democrats Spent 'Four Years Refusing to Accept the Validity of the Last Election' 119 Graham: We Don't Need Permission from Liberals, Media to Investigate Allegations of Voting Irregularities Graham: We Don't Need Permission from Liberals, Media to Investigate Allegations of Voting Irregularities 91 Deeply Blue New England Disrupted by Republican Wins in Down-Ballot Races Deeply Blue New England Disrupted by Republican Wins in Down-Ballot Races 47 Republicans Emerge from Election Controlling New Hampshire Governorship, House, and Senate Republicans Emerge from Election Controlling New Hampshire Governorship, House, and Senate 166 Ex-Mueller Deputy Andrew Weissmann Compares President Trump to Hitler Ex-Mueller Deputy Andrew Weissmann Compares President Trump to Hitler 251 Business Hiring Jumped Higher in September, Indicating a Strengthening Labor Market Business Hiring Jumped Higher in September, Indicating a Strengthening Labor Market 6

[Nov 10, 2020] Republicans Should Probe Mail-In Voting If They Keep the Senate- Sen. Lindsey Graham

Nov 10, 2020 | clarion.causeaction.com

https://www.theepochtimes.com/republicans-should-probe-mail-in-voting-if-they-keep-the-senate-sen-lindsey-graham_3572135.html

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said on Monday that he will ask Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to create a joint committee to probe mail-in voting if the Senate remains in Republican hands next year. "This election is by no means over," Graham said during an interview with Fox News Radio's Brian Kilmeade. "What I'm going to tell Mitch McConnell today when we get back, if we keep the Senate, we need to do a joint committee in the Senate to analyze mail-in balloting and how it worked in 2020." "All I'm asking people to do is run down every credible allegation of misconduct, look at the computer systems, look at the provisional ballots, then we'll make a decision, go to court, then we'll make a decision about who won the presidency. It would be insane for President Trump not to look at all this stuff," Graham said. With four

[Nov 10, 2020] The Awful Reckoning -- Plus Thursday a.m. Election Update - Kunstler

Notable quotes:
"... Election update, 9:50 am Weds Nov 4 ..."
Nov 10, 2020 | kunstler.com

Election update, 9:10 am Thurs Nov 4

Thursday morning and the election remains unresolved with the prospect of a long legal battle ahead. The most striking feature of all this is America's failure to arrange a fair, honest, and coherent election system. Instead, we add layers of complexity that only increase the likelihood of failure and opportunities for cheating. But remember, one of the hallmarks of the long emergency is the federal government's growing impotence and incompetence to deal with anything.

As for red flags, we have the 4 a.m. Wednesday morning dump of 131,000 votes, all for Mr. Biden, none for Mr. Trump, emanating out of Shiawassee and Antrim Counties, Michigan, populations respectively 68,000 and 23,000. Some person in the chain there declared it was "a typo," but the returns don't reflect that the false number was retracted. A similar dump of 27,000, all for Biden, came out of Philadelphia, no explanation. And that was only the beginning of a Democratic Party wholesale mail-in ballot manufacturing effort that continues to this writing.

The Democrats have established a Biden "transition team" to lay on a veneer of legitimacy to their scheme, with the expectation that the mainstream media will amplify the idea that it's over but it's not over. The Trump campaign has also declared victory in PA, Michigan, and other states that are supposedly still reporting. All of this is tending to the Supreme Court where some people are gonna have to do some 'splainin'.

The chances are pretty good for all this to enter an ugly stage of violent intransigence, with Antifa / BLM mobs of Dem "allies" busting things up in Philadelphia and Detroit, to distract from what's going on in the election district counting rooms.

The legal battles could stretch out into December when states have to certify electors, and if that can't be resolved, it's on to the House of representatives for the first time since 1876 (Hayes-Tilden).


Election update, 9:50 am Weds Nov 4

The election has rolled out as expected here – that is, not resolved the morning after, with Antifa and BLM rioters already moiling in the streets of Washington D.C.

Portland, Oregon, remains in continual uproar after four months of violence and destruction, and Mayor Ted Wheeler won reelection against "Antifa candidate" Sarah Iannarone. Lucky Portland.

Outside the swing states still in play, the margins were strikingly lopsided. Joe Biden's radiant charisma worked in the usual blue coastal states -- Cal 65% to 33%, NY 55% to 33% -- but Mr. Trump's margins were equally lopsided in the flyover red states -- OK 65% to 32%, TN 60% to 37%, MO 56% to 41%. Mr. Biden won thumpingly in VA once the Deep State bedroom counties next to DC came in late at night. But the president won convincingly in FLA, OH, and TX.

For now, at 9 a.m. Weds, the race hinges on the usual suspects. Mr. Trump is up a half a percent in Michigan with 91% of votes counted; Mr. Biden is seven-tenths up in Wisconsin, with 95% in awaiting Green Bay results (delayed, apparently, because a vote-processing machine ran out of ink (!). Similar close margins in NC not so close in GA, with the president ahead a healthy 2 percent, and finally the dark maw of mischief, PA, where Mr. Trump was up by more than ten full percentage points (@700,000 votes) this morning, but awaiting more than a million mail-in ballots.

Let's not forget the rather reckless remark made by PA Attorney General Josh Shapiro on Halloween night that "if all the votes are added up, Mr. Trump is going to lose." Sounded pretty sure of himself. Now, as I understand it, the PA state supreme court ruled recently that counties could continue to process mail-in votes until Friday, and, more importantly, that they did not require postmarks or signature authentication -- which would appear an easy invitation to simple ballot fraud.

The president vowed late Tuesday night to take a case to the US supreme court where, I expect, that PA ruling will be tossed out as self-evidently unsound. Can the forces of Dem Lawfare work around that? I don't see how, but I'm not a constitutional lawyer. The Dems have worked hard in recent years to manufacture the inane and false narrative that any kind of voter-ID procedure amounts to "suppression." America needs to get its mind right about that.

Does Lawfare have other tricks up its sleeve? I rather expect so, but the president has had months to plan his own defense against the threat of a Lawfare coup, so now we will see the game play out. Meanwhile, we await mayhem in the streets, condoned and encouraged by Joe Biden's party, as though that will endear him to nation.

[Nov 10, 2020] Accusations of Dems of voting fraud are much more serious then nonsense that Dems spread for 4 years that Trump colluded with Russia

Those accusation do deserve creation of the position of a special Prosecutor and Mueller style investigation
The Dominion "glitch" occurred in more than one state, which equates to Interstate voter manipulation !
Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com
Avatar Joe "Bought in China" Biden BleakOutlook 15 hours ago

You mean like 4 years of Trump colluded with Russia and all the other non-sense you idiots spewed.

It's not a 'conspiracy theory' that ballots arrived late, outside the window of when they were legally allowed, even PA admits to it, and the SCOTUS ordered them separated.

Pretty sure you don't know what the word "theory" means. Shimarin 14 hours ago

Sorry Jamiester, That isn't how the US operates in any investigation of wrongdoing. Even serial killers only get punished for the bodies found not for the ones we think they did. If trump's very expensive lawyers and investigators, with the help of any GOP state officials, cannot find enough fraudulent votes to change the outcome, then we have no other number we can use. Historically, the averages caught have been low and were more accidental than criminal so we can't even use those averages.

Remember, in 2016, many trump family members, spicer, bannon, miller and others were caught having been registered to vote in multiple states at the same time. Everyone knows it was clerical and not criminal.

Trump and team are tasked with finding the evidence and trump has already said he has it. We'll find out if he is blustering or not soon enough.

1 1 ReplyShare › Avatar Billie Day Shimarin 13 hours ago

maybe no exact number can be produced for the voting computer fraud.

ReplyShare › Avatar coolercoleman 11 hours ago

The biggest problem is the ignoring voter fraud election after election until now where we have voter fraud equal to a third world dictatorship. We are talking millions of fraudulent votes in Pennsylvania alone. ShawnNJ ✓Swamp Drainer 7 hours ago

Joe Biden Says Democrats Created 'The Most Extensive And Inclusive Voter Fraud Organization' In American History

https://thefederalist.com/2...

13 ReplyShare › Avatar obamediawatcher ShawnNJ ✓Swamp Drainer 7 hours ago

When the election is overturned will the media still be calling for unity?

7 ReplyShare › Avatar ShawnNJ ✓Swamp Drainer obamediawatcher 7 hours ago

First we must get the very hard evidence needed to make sure it's a slam dunk in court. Then we can embarrass them to no end.

8 ReplyShare › Avatar RobinthebruceII ShawnNJ ✓Swamp Drainer 7 hours ago

Did you watch Levin this weekend? Apparently democrats brought hundreds of lawsuits in all 50 states to loosen election laws, to enact ballot harvesting in the state level, to allow earlier and later voting. If that isn't enough evidence of their plan to cheat, I don't know what is.

What Peen did is unconstitutional. State Supreme Court cannot change law. It had to be voted on by the legislature. 34 states have the same voting software that "glitched" and changed votes and Nancy Pelosi abd Feinstein's husband are major shareholders. A poll watcher decided to stay after the polling place "closed" abd filmed two cars and a truck drop off ballots. I think there is more evidence than we can imagine.

10 ReplyShare › Avatar Floyd-19 RobinthebruceII 4 hours ago

Amen Sister!!! SC CANNOT MAKE LAW!!!

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Deplorable Spartan RobinthebruceII 7 hours ago

Most of those changes were made outside the legislative process as prescribed in the Constitution. The changes they made were the same as what Pelosi tried to jam through in HR-1 in 2019 when the new Congress was seated.

ReplyShare › Avatar RobinthebruceII Deplorable Spartan 5 hours ago

Wouldn't that mean those changes like the ones Penn made are illegal? Do you know how many states changed their voting through these lawsuits?

5 ReplyShare › Avatar Deplorable Spartan RobinthebruceII 3 hours ago

Yes, Penn is illegal. In fact the "judge" that reviewed the case about the changes that the Democrats wanted and ADDED more illegal verbiage.

It also happened here in AZ where the clerk sent out instructions against a court order that allows someone to cross out a mis-vote.

So, in my case, I voted early. My ballot was put in an envelope, sealed and sent off to be counted. It would have been opened by a person who looks at the ballot....what's to say that person didn't draw a line through my vote and vote for the other person? That makes me concerned my vote could have been changed. This is how they sow doubt into elections.

ReplyShare › Avatar obamediawatcher ShawnNJ ✓Swamp Drainer 7 hours ago

They already have some juicy targets.

ReplyShare › Avatar Pantheon12 obamediawatcher 7 hours ago

No

2 ReplyShare › Avatar Mayflower Society-DAR member. obamediawatcher 7 hours ago

Hopefully the media will lose their broadcast licenses and be shut down.

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Tim 7 hours ago

The Dominion "glitch" occured in more than one state, which equates to Interstate voter manipulation ! SCOTUS needs to order all states with Dominion systems completely audited !

11 ReplyShare › Avatar 2EdgedSword Tim 7 hours ago

Each glitch was a manual interruption to falsely add Harris votes to obtain a false slight lead. It was not a glitch. Sytl manages the IT maintenance of the voting software systems for the guilty counties, i.e., they have a back door to manually stop displayed totals and insert false totals.

3 ReplyShare › Avatar Pantheon12 Tim 7 hours ago

I believe two republicans have won once it was flipped back so far

3 ReplyShare › Avatar Occam's Razor Pantheon12 7 hours ago

Who, where?

ReplyShare › Avatar Pantheon12 Occam's Razor 7 hours ago

This is one - https://www.thegatewaypundi...

1 ReplyShare › Avatar Occam's Razor Pantheon12 6 hours ago

Great, thanks!

ReplyShare › Avatar Pantheon12 Tim 7 hours ago

💯

2 ReplyShare › Avatar Secret Squirrel 16 hours ago

The ballot machine company is owned by Sen. Feinstein's husband. That's all you need to know.

11 ReplyShare › Avatar D L Secret Squirrel 16 hours ago

Feinsteins husband is an investor, not owner. The CEO is a former Pelosi staffer.

6 ReplyShare › Avatar J.Moore citizenfreepress.com D L 16 hours ago

He's a 60% investor. That's pretty close to 'ownership'.

[Nov 10, 2020] Traditionally, Republican in person vote outpaces Democrats by a 60-40 margin. Georgia numbers just do not add up

Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

CoolHandLuke 3 hours ago

Here are some numbers from Georgia to contemplate.

There were 4 million mail and early ballots cast.

50% registered Republicans (2,000,000)
42% Democrats (1,680,000)
8% independents (320,000)

At that point President Trump lead should have been about 300,000 votes, indeed we saw early in the evening an 6-8% margin in favor of President Tump

There have been about 1 million more ballots cast on election night in person. That would require Joke Biden to receive 75% of the in person votes with a nearly 90% turnout to overcome Trumps lead. For reference 2016 turnout was less than 70%.

Yet traditionally, Republican in person vote outpaces Democrats by a 60-40 margin.

The numbers Just don't add up

[Nov 10, 2020] Of Color Revolutions: In a further attempt to circumvent the intelligence of the voters, the American media machine has arbitrarily declared Joe Biden president by Brett Redmayne-Titley

Nov 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

BRETT REDMAYNE-TITLEY NOVEMBER 8, 2020 3,300 WORDS 104 COMMENTS REPLY

In a further attempt to circumvent the intelligence of the voter, the American media machine has, this past Saturday, Nov 7, 2020, arbitrarily declared Joe Biden president. There are many problems with this report being accurate. The largest problem is that of the media itself.

In declaring Biden the winner, this media ignores very credible accusations of Biden campaign election fraud, substantiated problems with the mail-in ballots, successful legal challenges and, more importantly, that at least three of the states in question will be available to Trump, by state law, to perform a recount. When these recounts do occur, they will likely be under court order and also allow all Republican vote watchers to view the millions of mail-in ballots of which thousands are already in question.

To begin this presentation of the first 72 hours since election night Nov 3, it would serve the voter well to remember: This is same media which first spent more than two years championing, like Biden himself, the utterly debunked Russia Gate allegations and next the Democrat's very flawed and deliberately tepid Impeachment attempt against incumbent Trump.

More to the point, as of Election Day of this past Tuesday, that media had worked a blanket media censorship of the very credible allegations of a Biden family influence-peddling operation while their candidate was, then, Vice President.

It must be now also be recalled that Biden, during a campaign stop Q&A presser on Oct 25, stated very clearly, that

"[W]e have put together and you guys did it for President Obama's administration before this, we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."

While his statement may also prove the upcoming need for the 25 th Amendment, if it is not an admission of complicity, it is certainly an indictment of the media.

These past seventy-two business hours are already the stuff of American history and a good reason for a journalist to stay up all night to follow and report this ongoing daily history. Unless Trump concedes, this election has many more days to go. This reporter, thus sleep-deprived and objectively irritable, will in the days to come update the proceedings within the body of this series.

To the student of history and American backed Color Revolutions, when MSM divisively anointed Biden far too early as US president- after a two-and-a-half-year quest to do so- their candidate, Joe Biden, became, instead, America's own Juan Guaido.

It has become apparent that the Trump campaign's concern about the Dems use of mail-in ballots was justified since all allegations begin here. Trump strategists were expecting this. What was not expected was that the DNC would be so brazenly obvious in using the mail-in ballots to Biden's advantage.

The chronology of questionable vote counting began in the wee hours of election night morning.

Still barely awake and by then cross-eyed, news hit the screen at approx. 2:30 AM EST that despite the national back and forth of the vote count, suddenly that vote count had been suspended for the night in NV, AZ, MI, Wi, PA, GA and NC. These were the last of the swing states that were still key to any victory. All but two (GA and AZ) are under a democratic governor's control. This stoppage seemed very strange. Brief research did not reveal a precedent to this, at which time the vote favored Trump in all but AZ and NV.

Interestingly, on that night several hours before every network had already called AZ for Biden with only 75% counted. This early declaration came despite the Trump campaign's protests and AZ governor, Doug Ducey saying,

" I encourage media outlets, cable news and national pundits to avoid the temptation to declare a winner until our Arizona election officials have finished their jobs."

A look at the converse is also enlightening.

As of this Sunday morning, despite NC reporting, a 99% tally and a recount proof 1.3 % lead all weekend for Trump, not one media source has, as they did so quickly for Biden in AZ, NV, WI, PA, GA, declared that state and NC's fifteen delegates for Trump's total.

Deliberately, this action continues to deceive the uneducated voter that there is a much larger, and presumably insurmountable electoral lead for Biden. The intent is to sow disinterest and make the allegations irrelevant to the win.

Before pursuing some much-needed strong tea and a walk, I wrote down the existing vote counts in all these states as a reference for the restart of the media's count beginning the next day.

Revitalized, I took a quick look at tabulations on my screen merely out of habit. What I saw sent me scrambling for my notes. Suddenly Biden was up in MI. This had happened while the count was reportedly suspended!

A quick search provided a graph comparing the Biden to Trump vote count, minute-by-minute per state. Looking back in time, the graph had spiked straight up, not diagonally, for Biden during my few minutes of absence. This sudden upward tick was so large that it had put Biden in the lead. The same graph showed no uptick for Trump at the same moment at all. All Biden votes. No Trump votes?

As dawn broke, Michigan's "Decision Desk HQ" attempted to explain away too easily this discrepancy:

" The data showing Biden receiving 100% of the newly counted votes was released at 5:04 a.m. by Decision Desk HQ which showed Biden with 2,130,695 votes at Trump with 2,200,902 votes. But that data was not correct Once we identified the error, we cleared the erroneous data and updated it with the correct data as provided by officials. We stand by our data as reflected "

Sure.

Since that morning's reawakening, many more questions have been buried by the media. N ot in these pages.

This day, news surfaced of Trump's observers being barred from their duties by the vote counters in many locations in many states. This, at the least, called into question the workers neutrality.

Hindsight would recall that before the election there were successful efforts by Democrats to loosen electoral administration standards. This did legalize ballot harvesting, where, such as in Texas, partisan "volunteers" went out and collected ballots, sometimes after helping voters fill them out. The same laws facilitated same-day voter registration and mass mail-in voting.

At the same time, the DNC decried efforts by the RNC to require ID or proof of citizenship to vote.

After the early morning irregularities of November 4, there continued the mysterious discoveries of huge tranches of ballots that were overwhelmingly, if not exclusively for Biden. This turned out not to be surprising.

It was reported that US District Judge Emmet Sullivan was outraged at Postmaster General Louis DeJoy for not following his specific court order to "sweep " all USPS facilities for any possible stashes of ballots before 3 PM on Election Day. Prudently, Sullivan's order was crafted to prevent ballots surfacing for counting after the close of the polls at 8 PM. Of course, this, in part, was exactly what happened. Said Sullivan , "At some point, the postmaster is either going to have to be deposed or appear before me and testify under oath," adding, "The court has been very clear that it expects full compliance," while excoriating the US Postal Service's legal team for failing to promptly notify him after the agency supposedly realized it couldn't meet his deadline.

Naturally, it was then confirmed by the vote counters in many districts that "glitches" with the digital voting machines had flipped Republican votes into the Democrats' column as was documented.

As Wednesday continued, next were reports from people who showed up to vote in person but were told by poll workers that they had already voted as absentees, despite not having requested an absentee ballot. This was confirmed by a voter, Eugene R. who contacted the author through his website, stating that this happened to both he and his wife in Allentown, PA.

In many of the Democrat-controlled precincts in PA reports coming in regarding vote counters limiting access to Republican observers, in defiance of court orders, were frequent.

Combined, these individually insignificant reports began to quickly add up to suspicion. However, next came a very large statistical anomaly, in both Georgia and Michigan.

In Michigan for example, by using the old screenshots provided, there showed a minimal mathematical difference of just 7,131 votes between Trump and GOP Senate candidate John James. This was as expected since, as PEW research agreed, the vote for senator almost always closely follows that of the presidential vote and adheres to party preference.

However, the difference between Joe Biden and Democrat candidate Gary Peters was, very strangely, 69,093.

In Georgia, as of 6:05 AM EST Wed the difference between Trump and GOP offering Senator David Purdue was also in line with party preference. However , in checking the difference between Biden and the Democrat candidate for Senator, Jon Ossoff, it was 98,501. (Biden: 2,414,651 Jon Ossoff : 2,318,850)

This math is worthy of further scrutiny and explanation, but on the first examination can only be explained by either a lot of dyed in the wool republicans not voting the party line for Trump and Biden instead. Or .?

Certainly, this report from the first full day of post-election 2020 should pique the interest of any concerned voter, democrat and republican and demand their further personal scrutiny of the ongoing events. However, in anointing Biden as the winner already, the goal of America's media is to suggest via its cover-up, that these current allegations, just like those of influence peddling, are now over and done with.

A review of the states that remain in play show, that unless Trump concedes, both sets of allegations will remain very much in play in each of these contested states and then, likely, in the Electoral College's " Certification of Attainment" on Dec 14.

There is much penny ante finger-pointing by the GOP and combined these smaller allegations, such as restrictions of Republican observers, may turn into a playable hand. However, it is the legislative law and violations thereof that are the serious political chess moves that will, this week, be revealed by Trump.

Before looking at the main legal challenge, the easier subject is per state recounts.

Recounts can be required or commissioned by state law in WI, GA, MI and PA. While it is true that recounts rarely change a previous outcome, one might well remember the Florida recount of 2000 and the strength of the allegations that seem to favor Trump. Should there be a recount, it will certainly be done under direct scrutiny, no matter what, by the GOP state operatives and the supervision of the courts.

At this time the margin for Biden-reportedly– is GA: 10,195; MI: 46,113; PA: 19,423 and WI: 20,510. This is a total of 96,241. Considering the cumulative total of allegedly illegal votes, this number, subject to a recount and the courts, would seem to be plausible.

Of, Recounts.

Already the Trump campaign has informally requested a recount in WI, but cannot as yet do so per WI statute.

Under Wisconsin election law, there is no automatic recount, even if the unofficial results are extremely close; a candidate must request one. According to the state's manual outlining the process, candidates can request a recount if they are within the 1% margin of victory. Biden currently has a lead of just 0.7 percentage points with 99% of votes tallied. The request cannot be filed before the initial counting is complete, so that news is pending.

During a WI recount, it must be open to the public, and the Board of Canvassers has the option of a hand-count or to use voting equipment to re-tabulate the ballots, unless a court orders otherwise.

In Pennsylvania, where the margin is less than or equal to 0.5% of the total vote, an automatic recount may be required in the event of certain discrepancies as described here . At this time, Joe Biden has 49.608 percent of the vote, and Donald Trump has 49.098 percent of the vote, a margin of 0.51 percent.

Regardless of percentage difference, the recount can be requested, if filed, and subsequently paid for by the complainant, within five days of the election or five days after the computational canvass and must be requested through the Court of Common Pleas. If error or fraud is found, an additional five days is provided to make additional requests elsewhere, like the courts.

Georgia does not automatically initiate a recount. However, if a candidate falls with a 0.5% margin or less, a recount can be requested. Georgia law also states that a recount must be requested within two business days following the certification of results. State law does not specify who pays for the recount, but like PA percentage difference is not a requirement.

Michigan sets five criteria for requesting a recount: 1) The candidate ran for president. 2) The request "alleges that the candidate is aggrieved on account of fraud or mistake in the canvass of the votes." 3) the request "shall contain specific allegations of wrongdoing only if evidence of that wrongdoing is available to the petitioner." 4) The request "sets forth the nature and character of the fraud or mistakes " 5) The request "specifies the counties, cities, townships, and precincts in which the recount is requested."

Presumably, Trump's legal army have checked-off all five boxes.

It is true that in all four states Trump is losing, and in states like MI, PA, WI, is at the moment slightly over the threshold for an automatic recount. But it is the allegations of fraud that may put Trump within those limits for a recount, or possibly swing the state in his favor afterwards. With all these states still a day or more from final results, the term, "Re-count," will soon hit the news on four separate fronts.

Pennsylvania, SCOTUS and the Re-Count.

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito late Friday ordered Pennsylvania election officials to segregate and separately count ballots that arrived after Election Day.

Alito ordered ( pdf ) that those segregated ballots must be kept "in a secure, safe and sealed container separate from other voted ballots."

The justice, however, did not order the counties to stop counting but instead ordered those ballots to be counted separately pending review of their legitimacy. Here, Trump won a significant, although partial victory as to the segregation of these challengeable ballots and possible reduction of the Biden total.

This ruling and Alito's words may be a forewarning of SCOTUS decisions to come.

In 2019, the PA legislature passed a law called Act 77 that permitted all voters to cast their ballots by mail but, in Justice Alito's words, "unambiguously required that all mailed ballots be received by 8 p.m. on election day ."

Indeed, the exact text from 2019 Pa. Leg. Serv. Act 2019-77 , reads, "No absentee ballot under this subsection shall be counted which is received in the office of the county board of elections later than eight o'clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election."

Even more prohibitively, Act 77 also provided that if this portion of the law was ever invalidated, that the rest of Act 77, including its liberalization of mail-in voting, would also be void.

Pretty clear so far, except if you're on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

After a four to three party-line vote, this court very strangely ruled that, first, mailed ballots don't need to be received by election day and that ballots can be accepted if they are postmarked on election day or received within three days thereafter. Next, the court got creative allowing that, a mailed ballot with no postmark, or an illegible postmark, must be regarded as timely if it is received by that same date.

Of course, to most who read English this court's rulings were not in keeping with Act 77.

Before Friday's order, Alito had already assessed that,

" The provisions of the Federal Constitution conferring on state legislatures , not state courts , the authority to make rules governing federal elections would be meaningless if a state court could override the rules adopted by the legislature simply by claiming that a state constitutional provision gave the courts the authority to make whatever rules it thought appropriate for the conduct of a fair election." [Emph.added]

When bringing suit the Republicans also raised concerns that PA Secretary of the Commonwealth, Kathy Boockvar, had issued new guidance on Nov. 1 ( pdf ) directing county election boards to count late-arriving ballots.

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Alito said in his order that he had not been informed that his guidance issued on Oct. 28, "which had an important bearing on the question whether to order special treatment of the ballots in question," had been modified. Alito suggested that segregating the ballots would be necessary because, "if the State Supreme Court's decision is ultimately overturned, a targeted remedy will be available."

This means Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch (who joined Alito's apparent skepticism on the Pennsylvania ruling) are open to legal challenges brought by Trump regarding post- Election Day fraud. That one decision will, after a full hearing, very likely invalidate thousands of votes cast illegally in Pennsylvania. However, with new allegations surfacing, more illegal ballots could add up. Or at the very least legitimize a recount.

This willingness by SCOTUS to already provide certiorari to actions brought to it regarding 2020 election fraud may foreshadow consequences in other states soon.

Case in point may be the news of the last hour that the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) told poll workers to 'add a missing witness address' to any deficient ballot and that some poll workers allegedly took it one step further by signing for non-existent witnesses. If true, in doing so, the workers may have invalidated thousands of more ballots, committed a felony offense and necessitated further SCOTUS intervention.

Wisconsin Statute 6.86 provides that

" an absentee ballot must be signed by a witness, who is also required to list his or her address. If a witness address is not listed, then the ballot is considered invalid and must be returned to the voter to have the witness correct."

" The statute is very, very clear," said retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, a Milwaukee poll watcher on Election Day. "If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it's not valid."

With Alito's words and Thomas' and Gorsuch's concurrence in mind, WI may have just come back into play; re-count pending.

The former ambassador to Russia under the Obama Administration, Michael McFaul, presumably knows a lot about Color Revolutions, since his boss used him in Ukraine in 2014. McFaul, who was also instrumental in the Russia-Gate disinformation campaign against Trump, also authored, "7 Pillars of Color Revolution,"

As this historic election continues, reporting and further analysis will highlight daily events and their parallels that already warn that these seven pillars are seemingly right in place here in America, as they were in the examples Ukraine, Bolivia and Venezuela, at least.

The initial step in each example has been to use a national election as the reason for a razor-thin and disputed vote result, one that the media stirs into a frenzy on both sides: A frenzy so viscous that the result becomes massive civil unrest followed next by violence.

And then military intervention.

In this, the first seventy-two hours of news from the election battleground of America 2020, this first step of a media fabricated victor, of which the other side detests and alleges criminal behavior, would seem in play.

Unless Trump concedes.

As this report continues to delve into the hard allegations of equally outrageous American election fraud, like its funded Color Revolutions past, America's color may turn out to be, here in the homeland, " Pale Blue."

Good night

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[Nov 10, 2020] Barr OK for election-fraud investigations roils Justice Department - POLITICO

Nov 10, 2020 | www.politico.com

Attorney General William Barr appeared Monday to make a bid to reassure backers of President Donald Trump who have complained bitterly in recent days that the Justice Department was not taking action to combat alleged voter fraud and other election irregularities.

In a memo to U.S. attorneys , Barr authorized them to open election-fraud investigations "if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State."

... "While serious allegations should be handled with great care, specious, speculative, fanciful or far-fetched claims should not be a basis for initiating federal inquiries," Barr wrote. "Nothing here should be taken as any indication that the Department has concluded that voting irregularities have impacted the outcome of any election."

[Nov 10, 2020] At a news conference with White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany and Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel, after McEnany claimed the Democratic party "welcomed fraud."

Nov 10, 2020 | www.politico.com

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Employees were summoned to campaign headquarters in Virginia for a meeting led by Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien and lawyer Justin Clark to talk about the next steps, according to a campaign official at the meeting.

Clark told staff not to mistake a "lack of motion for lack of progress," as the campaign pursues legal action in all critical states, with the exception of Georgia, called for Biden.

...senior Trump campaign adviser Jason Miller said on Fox Business that the campaign does believe there is a pathway toward Trump remaining president.

"We're going to go and pursue all these legal means, all the recount methods," he said. "We're going to continue exposing and investigating all these instances of fraud or abuse, and make sure [that] the American public can have full confidence in these elections."

Miller said the campaign is pulling together evidence of alleged fraud, and he believes it has enough to change the outcome in Pennsylvania. He added that he expects recounts in Georgia and Arizona, and legal action in Michigan and Wisconsin, both states that Biden carried.

The word "concede" he said, "is not even in our vocabulary right now."

[Nov 10, 2020] Here's a video showing a live broadcast feed of election results as the AC360 is rolling in the Kentucky Gubernatorial race.

Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Odyessy an hour ago

Here's a video showing a live broadcast feed of election results as the AC360 is rolling in the Kentucky Gubernatorial race. It represents the flip of votes in small increments at a time.

Almost imperceptible to anyone.

But it's caught on live digital television, and a frame by frame examination shows it. https://youtu.be/VQvLZ0aGYRs

[Nov 10, 2020] Wisconsin Election Clerks Tampered with Thousands of Ballots.

Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

DemocratsHateAmericans 7 hours ago

REPORT: Wisconsin Election Clerks Tampered with Thousands of Ballots.
Eye-witness reports of numerous acts of ballot tampering and vote fraud pour in from the battle ground states including Wisconsin where poll workers altered absentee ballots.
Poll workers handling absentee ballots in Wisconsin received direction from election authorities to illegally alter ballots with missing information. The missing information – by law – made those absentee ballots invalid and ineligible to be included in tabulation.
But a report coming out of Wisconsin reveals that poll workers and ballot counters were given instruction by the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) to write in missing absentee ballot witness information on ballots that were missing that information.
https://nationalfile.com/re...

Share › Avatar distant voices 7 hours ago

Thank God TX did not go with that software.

7 ReplyShare › Avatar caddothegreat . distant voices 7 hours ago • edited

Not quite right. It was found by a Dallas Security firm that Dallas County used DS-200 Ballot Tabulator, and they were hacked in 2018.
Simply amazing why our officials have allowed this to gone on for so
long. election vote servers are in Spain and Germany for 28 states ! 28
isn't that the number using Dominion Voting machines ?

.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=youtube Mitch USA 14 hours ago

Software is really stupid stuff. It does not go off on its own, has no mind of its own, and there is no intelligence anywhere in code. It performs instructions and does them over and over, exactly the same every time, no matter what. Until something changes.Something changing is not a "glitch." It is a change.

Software does not wake up in the morning and suddenly shift 6,000 votes from candidate A to candidate B, as in Biden. An electrical impulse hitting from that outdoor lightning strike does not make code do something different. It may fry a hard drive, but it does not change vote counts.

Software leaves tracks. These are called log files

[Nov 10, 2020] There is a numerical analysis method called "Benford's Law" that has been used in the past to show instances of voter fraud in Iran. If applied to the result of elections in swing state there are redflags

See Benford's law - Wikipedia
Nov 10, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Stephen Dutton plagar3 12 hours ago

I don't think I'd go that far. There is a numerical analysis method called "Benford's Law" that has been used in the past to show instances of voter fraud in Iran. When applied to voting patterns for candidates other than Biden it shows no problems in any states. Apparently it does not show problems for Biden either in states where he lost or those obviously liberal ones that were almost bound to support him. However, when the analysis is performed on the results coming in from swing states where we are being told he pulled off some very lucky victories the picture becomes different. So different that big tech are pulling down posts about it.

[Nov 09, 2020] It s possible that CIA was able to monitor and change to votes on election night

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Doug Sweetman an hour ago

Since the CIA wrote Scorecard and Hammer, and since there are a few computer forensics folks working for Trump, it's possible they were able to monitor and log changes to votes on election night and beyond.

If Trump was smart enough to catch these activities and proves fraud to reverse the States he needs to win, he deserves another term.

If he was not smart enough, he'll lose due to the lack of evidence.

There would be a good reason for Trump not to mention any of this yet. They still might be using the software to change votes in some States.

In the words of Sun Tze: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Founders_1791 an hour ago

Dominion must be compelled under oath to divulge what updates, when, and what they entailed (logs) for all election machines in states under suspicion

Dominion must surrender source code used in machines for analysis

Dominion must divulge the names of all donors in their organization to campaigns

[Nov 09, 2020] Hammer is a machine in the CIA, perhaps a server unit, and Scorecard is one of the programs. The system was designed to hack into and interfere with foreign country voting elections results.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Greene Cynicles 14 hours ago

Hammer is a machine in the CIA, perhaps a server unit, and Scorecard is one of the programs. The system was designed to hack into and interfere with foreign country voting elections results. Expect more to be reported on it this week.

[Nov 09, 2020] Another rumor out there is during the 2 hours 3 states stopped counting it was due to a software update . Just a rumor. Hope it gets checked out.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

JSnake Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 16 hours ago

Another rumor out there is during the 2 hours 3 states stopped counting it was due to a "software update". Just a rumor. Hope it gets checked out.

18 ReplyShare › Brett JSnake 14 hours ago

Software update, meaning the IT Techs from the DNC were involved.

[Nov 09, 2020] Salon reported on the reliability of these election machines in 2019 and they are a generally liberal leaning site.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Egfrow PenobScot 7 hours ago • edited

Salon reported on the reliability of these election machines in 2019 and they are a generally liberal leaning site.

https://www.salon.com/2019/...

[Nov 09, 2020] QR code readers on our phone would solve the matching of the text for Dominion voting mashines

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com
ExplainItAgain an hour ago

Qr code readers on our phone would solve the matching of the text. Scanners and to the tabulation databases still could be vulnerable, but one the paper copy is verified by the voter and archived it can be audited.

Doug Sweetman an hour ago

The question is whether Scorecard, Hammer and all of the Internet connections between Dominion and the various State voting servers were used to change votes on Super Tuesday when Joe Biden unexpectedly blew out Bernie Sanders in one shot for the nomination, just after several other candidates ducked out.

Southpaw an hour ago

Here is a lengthy video by a Dallas company that specializes in cyber security it's extremely detailed and will make you sick when you realize this is a cluster that will never get unraveled. And worse, the FBI isn't interested.

https://youtu.be/ficae6x1Q5A

[Nov 09, 2020] Voting Machine Laptop and Memory Sticks Stolen in Philadelphia from a city warehouse in East Falls by Joe Hoft

Oct 01, 2020 | thegatewaypundit.com
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The City of Brotherly Love is notorious for Democrat voter fraud. Now the situation just got worse – this is an emergency.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported yesterday:

A laptop and several memory sticks used to program Philadelphia's voting machines were stolen from a city warehouse in East Falls, officials confirmed Wednesday, setting off a scramble to investigate and to ensure the machines had not been compromised.

Though it remains unclear when the equipment was stolen, sources briefed on the investigation said the items vanished this week. The laptop belonged to an on-site employee for the company that supplies the machines. It and the USB drives were the only items believed to have been taken.

TRENDING: HUGE BREAKING NEWS IN GEORGIA - 132,000 Ballots in Fulton County, Georgia Have Been Identified Which Are Likely Ineligible

Two days ago we reported that Republican poll watchers were being turned away from Philadelphia voting stations:

There was reportedly a problem with the state's voter database.

Trump observers were being blocked entry to satellite voting locations in Philly, according to President Trump's 2020 election security staffer and GOP advisor Mike Roman.

Philadelphia is notorious for Democrat voter fraud. In May of this year a South Philadelphia judge of elections was found guilty of taking thousands in bribes to inflate vote totals for Democrat candidates. In July former Rep. Michael "Ozzie" Myers , 77, was indicted on multiple counts, including conspiracy to violate voting rights by fraudulently stuffing ballot boxes.

In 2012, the results in Philadelphia showed rampant voter fraud which helped the Democrats win the Presidential election:

In Philadelphia, voter turnout in 20 of the wards was 97 percent and greater. That is 97 percent of the bloated voter rolls that probably include dead people. Zombies are in these days, and in Philadelphia, they vote.

In 59 Philadelphia precincts, Mitt Romney received no votes . Zero. If you total up just those precincts, Obama won with over 19,000 votes to nothing for Romney.

In 2017 in the US as a whole there were more people eligible to vote than there were eligible voters. Per National Review:

The Election Integrity Project of Judicial Watch -- a Washington-based legal-watchdog group -- analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau's 2011–2015 American Community Survey and last month's statistics from the federal Election Assistance Commission. The latter included figures provided by 38 states. According to Judicial Watch, eleven states gave the EAC insufficient or questionable information. Pennsylvania's legitimate numbers place it just below the over-registration threshold.

My tabulation of Judicial Watch's state-by-state results yielded 462 counties where the registration rate exceeded 100 percent. There were 3,551,760 more people registered to vote than adult U.S. citizens who inhabit these counties.

We are unaware if any of this has been addressed in Philadelphia or across the nation. Now Philadelphia has its voting machine keys stolen. What is next?

The Feds need to step in in Philadelphia and all the other big cities and ensure voter integrity. These Democrat cities are where elections are stolen.

[Nov 09, 2020] Forget about the Chinese and the Russians, this fraud was carried out by the douchebags at our very own, CIA. Those people are the most arrogant bunch of low life's that you will ever meet. I had to deal with a bunch of them while overseas.

Notable quotes:
"... Well they're holding Cook County, Illinois, which includes Chicago, and San Francisco and San Diego counties in California as examples of their satisfied customers. Every one of them a pillar of election fraud for decades. ..."
Nov 09, 2020 | disqus.com

Secret Squirrel Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 15 hours ago • edited ,

Forget about the Chinese and the Russians, this fraud was carried out by the douchebags at our very own, CIA. Those people are the most arrogant bunch of low life's that you will ever meet. I had to deal with a bunch of them while overseas.

PenobScot Secret Squirrel 15 hours ago • edited ,

They used CIA's Hammer and Sickle. I'm sorry I meant to say Hammer and Scorecard. I think the fact that our loudmouth neanderthal ex-CIA director John Brennan voted for commie Gus Hall was on my mind.

Kris Liar liar pant suits on fire 9 hours ago ,

Well they're holding Cook County, Illinois, which includes Chicago, and San Francisco and San Diego counties in California as examples of their satisfied customers. Every one of them a pillar of election fraud for decades.

Alan Ng Kris 8 hours ago ,

Yes I'm from San Diego and shocked as to how the Democrats won so many local seats when my friends and I voted straight Republican

[Nov 09, 2020] Pelosi: "we have more arrows in our quiver. Does this include shares of Dominion software?

Notable quotes:
"... Pelosi's former Chief of staff is a lobbyist for Dominion Voting Systems! ..."
"... "Pelosis Take a Big Stake in CrowdStrike, Democrat-Connected Linchpin of Russia Probe." https://www.realclearinvest... ..."
Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

scsparty Liar liar pant suits on fire 4 hours ago • edited

As Pelosi recently said, " we have more arrows in our quiver". Nothing could bring this country to its knees more than massive voter fraud, other than total nuclear annulation.

Blakesly Liar liar pant suits on fire an hour ago

Dianne Feinstein's husband is also a huge stockholder in the Dominion company.

Liar liar pant suits on fire dmayl 2 hours ago

So it is true. Pelosi's former Chief of staff is a lobbyist for Dominion Voting Systems!

Bullet2354 Schrödinger's catan hour ago

"Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein Linked To Software Behind Voting Machine "Glitches" - https://www.rightcountry.co...

And what is even more stunning is -

"Pelosis Take a Big Stake in CrowdStrike, Democrat-Connected Linchpin of Russia Probe." https://www.realclearinvest...

[Nov 09, 2020] Question why five key states stopped counting votes at the same time at 2:00a.m. when Trump was ahead ,then resumed 3 hours later when votes turned ALL to Biden, none for Trump. Seriously?

Notable quotes:
"... In 2014, Dominion was listed in the Washington Post table as having donated between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation. ..."
Nov 09, 2020 | disqus.com
Gardenluver -> Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 9 hours ago

Question why five key states stopped counting votes at the same time at 2:00a.m. when Trump was ahead ,then resumed 3 hours later when votes turned ALL to Biden, none for Trump. Seriously?


William Carvalho Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 9 hours ago ,

It's worst than that. Dominion is the new brand name if Smartmatic, a Venezuelan "entreprise". Here in Brazil our elections are being cheated extensively for decades because the entire national voting process are based upon these machines. Over here the machines doesn't print a copy of the ballot in paper at all. It's a disgrace.

Bobbyt Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 13 hours ago ,

This story left out a KEY detail

Dominion Voting Systems has ties to prominent Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Bloomberg reported in April of last year that Dominion Voting Systems hired a high-powered lobbying firm that includes a longtime aide to Pelosi. They hired Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck. Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi's former chief of staff, is one of the lobbyists on the account.

In 2014, Dominion was listed in the Washington Post table as having donated between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

Israel_Reconquista Bobbyt 12 hours ago ,

We're learning more and more about that "largest voter fraud organization in the world

Scott L Bobbyt 12 hours ago ,

Also 60% stakeholder of Dominion is Finsteins husband. Nothing to be concerned about at all.

I mean why should we worry about Clinton hyping the Russia interference story to scare people both about Trump and the vulnerability of old voting machines and simultaneously working with a foundation partner to provide 'reliable' ones...

Oh, and of course Pelosi's chief of staff is also chief executive of Dominion voting systems... cozy no?

Tim Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 9 hours ago ,

What is the Clinton connection to Dominion? There has got to be one somewhere.

[Nov 09, 2020] The entire mail-in voting thing is a fraud and you know it.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Billie Day Shimarin 13 hours ago • edited

the entire mail in thing is a fraud and you know it. people can go to the market and buy food, they can dance in the street after they think Trump lost, but they can't vote in person because of the virus?

this was an operation to steal the election and everybody knows it

[Nov 09, 2020] They ALWAYS pretend it's incompetence. ALWAYS. The first thing a criminal does is play dumb and pretend like they didn't know what they were doing. They knew exactly what they were doing.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Waitaminute Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 16 hours ago

Let's not forget that Dominion is a Clinton donor to the tune of $50,000 in 2015 ....

Cynicles Pelosi = 💩! ✓ Deplorable 16 hours ago • edited

Unfortunately the T-2 was flawed, but rest assured, the T-800 will be ready for the recount and future election.

Jon Cynicles 15 hours ago • edited

Every vote counted by an old dominion machine needs to be recounted/audited.

Our election systems have been poorly designed on purpose so they could be hacked. They ALWAYS pretend it's incompetence. ALWAYS. The first thing a criminal does is play dumb and pretend like they didn't know what they were doing. They knew exactly what they were doing. Russia Russia Russia was BS and they knew it. They needed easily hackable machines for a different outcome, so they changed them. It's that simple.

These electronic machines updated 50 year old punch card tech. The reason it wasn't updated in the past 50 years? Potential for hacking and fraud. So of course our politicians rolled these out in states all over the country. This started around 2012, but expanded mainly after 2018. They are very easy to hack, see:

https://www.wsj.com/article...

All you need to do is change a few lines of code in the memory card. THESE ARE NOT GLITCHES!!!

And in terms of implementation all you need to do is send out a few repair men to swap out memory cards every so often. Swap to the hacked one and then back so people won't notice or discover it later. Voting machines were open in most places for a month. It's super easy to do this, the repairmen don't even need to know what they're swapping in and out. It's extremely simple and would only need to involve a few memory cards per state. This is so easy to do it's absurd.

[Nov 09, 2020] Have to love the software used in all the swing states

Nov 08, 2020 | principia-scientific.com

XXX, November 8, 2020 at 4:53 pm | #

Have to love the software used in all the swing states.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-corrupted-software-used-michigan-county-stole-6000-votes-trump-also-used-swing-states-pa-ga-nv-mi-wi-az-mn/

An Honest election NOT!!!.

[Nov 09, 2020] How Pennsylvania Democrats Deliberately Stoked Election Chaos

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Republicans and Democrats have long understood the problems with mass mail-in ballots. The usual stages of ballot security are lost: unlike absentee ballots, some people are claiming they received unsolicited mail-in ballots , a practice Pennsylvania does not allow. Could it be ballots are being illegally sent or is it simply that voters forgot they signed up to get them? ..."
"... Worse, it's impossible to ensure the ballot is filled out by the voter or with her approval. And when the ballot is submitted, the chain of custody observing that ballot is broken. It's a recipe for contested election results. ..."
"... Wolf's administration then asked the state's elected Supreme Court, which is 5-2 Democratic-majority and has become notorious for partisan rulings , to grant all the Democrats' requests -- and they did on Sep. 17. The court went further than expected, granting the Democrats' deadline extension , approving drop boxes and satellite "election offices" for ballot collection, and even ruling that postmarks could not be used to verify when ballots had been mailed. ..."
"... It got worse. Sensing an opportunity, the Wolf administration pronounced that county officials "are prohibited from rejecting absentee or mail-in ballots based on signature comparison." On Oct. 23, not long before Election Day, the court approved this last nail in the coffin of election integrity. ..."
"... To prevent a future election debacle in Pennsylvania, we need election integrity reform through the normal legislative process. Only legal votes should be counted, and controls should be put in place -- like polling place verification and absentee ballot chain-of-custody at every stage. ..."
Nov 09, 2020 | thefederalist.com

I can't tell you how many texts I've received this week from friends and acquaintances across the country asking -- usually in all-caps and peppered with profanity -- what is going on in Pennsylvania? As a native Philadelphian, and from my current vantage in politically coveted Bucks County, I can see why Americans are demanding answers.

Ballots can be counted up to three days after Election Day? Mailed ballots with no postmark still qualify? Unsupervised drop boxes scattered across cities are entrusted to secure tens of thousands of votes?

Sadly, it's all true. None of these practices inspires confidence that the standard of "one person, one vote" is being upheld. Nor were these practices valid in any prior general election in Pennsylvania.

Scratching your head as to why we chose the most consequential election in our lifetimes to run an experiment? Here's what I've told my friends: the experiment was a wild success -- once you understand that the chaos we're witnessing was the plan all along, carefully orchestrated by Pennsylvania Democrats, including the governor, party activists, and the state Supreme Court. Here's how it happened.

In Pennsylvania, Democrat Gov. Tom Wolf used the COVID-19 pandemic as cover for hurrying through new voting rules that bypassed reasonable deadlines or restrictions. The result? Many voters now have deep suspicion about wide-scale voter fraud in Philadelphia.

Republicans and Democrats have long understood the problems with mass mail-in ballots. The usual stages of ballot security are lost: unlike absentee ballots, some people are claiming they received unsolicited mail-in ballots , a practice Pennsylvania does not allow. Could it be ballots are being illegally sent or is it simply that voters forgot they signed up to get them?

Worse, it's impossible to ensure the ballot is filled out by the voter or with her approval. And when the ballot is submitted, the chain of custody observing that ballot is broken. It's a recipe for contested election results.

The seeds of public distrust were sowed in June, when Wolf decreed by executive order that mail-in ballots in the primary election could trickle in from certain counties for an extra week. The state Democratic Party followed up in July by suing to similarly extend the general election deadline for mail-in ballots. Their suit also sought to allow unprecedented "drop boxes" to collect mail-ins and to limit the number of election observers.

Wolf's administration then asked the state's elected Supreme Court, which is 5-2 Democratic-majority and has become notorious for partisan rulings , to grant all the Democrats' requests -- and they did on Sep. 17. The court went further than expected, granting the Democrats' deadline extension , approving drop boxes and satellite "election offices" for ballot collection, and even ruling that postmarks could not be used to verify when ballots had been mailed.

In addition, the court removed the Green Party presidential candidate's name from the state ballot over a technicality, a move that may have shifted Green Party votes to Joe Biden's camp. In their decision, the justices acknowledged that the new deadline violated state law but claimed that "in light of the current COVID-19 pandemic" such laws could be dismissed.

It got worse. Sensing an opportunity, the Wolf administration pronounced that county officials "are prohibited from rejecting absentee or mail-in ballots based on signature comparison." On Oct. 23, not long before Election Day, the court approved this last nail in the coffin of election integrity.

On Thursday, Republican Sen. Pat Toomey expressed concern about these unprecedented rule changes that fueled this week's chaos, making clear that free and fair elections aren't a partisan issue. Now, the U.S. Supreme Court will have to rule.

But on Oct. 28, the Supreme Court postponed any decision with a 4-4 ruling -- excluding newly appointed justice Amy Coney Barrett -- that returned the case to its court of origin. At the time, Justice Samuel Alito noted that it is likely "that the state Supreme Court decision violates the Federal Constitution," opening a possibility that the justices will review the case post-election, with the potential outcome of eliminating thousands of illegal ballots.

On Friday, GOP state House Speaker Bryan Cutler, who noted that the election "confusion is a direct result of the court decisions," called for a full audit before any certification of the results. Cutler also cited Pennsylvania's 100,000 provisional ballots -- cast when a voter's eligibility is in question -- that further indicated problems with the mail-in system.

Elections decided by the courts is a nightmare scenario for either political party. But Wolf refused to reform the state's election procedures in concert with the legislature. In October, GOP lawmakers proposed compromise legislation, House Bill 2626 , that included several, but not all, of the governor's proposed changes to Pennsylvania voting laws. Wolf threatened to veto their bill in an all-or-nothing negotiation standoff.

To prevent a future election debacle in Pennsylvania, we need election integrity reform through the normal legislative process. Only legal votes should be counted, and controls should be put in place -- like polling place verification and absentee ballot chain-of-custody at every stage.

But Democrats have resisted these reforms for years, creating the present chaos. The U.S. Supreme Court must respond accordingly and assure Pennsylvanians that their election was fair -- regardless of the presidential outcome. Jennifer Stefano is chief innovation officer and vice president at the Commonwealth Foundation, Pennsylvania's free market think tank.

[Nov 09, 2020] New report argues perils of mail-in voting go beyond fraud

Nov 09, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

The report warns that sweeping national change to voting would be costly and dangerous

A new report from a conservative group on the potential problems with large-scale mail-in voting argues that a recent push from states to send ballots to all registered voters for November's election would not only expose them to possible fraud but could likely result in a significant waste of taxpayer dollars.

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The report, by the Honest Elections Project, cites problems that have already arisen in a number of states showing that including inactive voters – including those who have changed addresses or died – would result in money being spent on ballots that would never reach their intended recipients.

TRUMP SAYS ABSENTEE VOTING SAFER THAN UNIVERSAL MAIL-IN BECAUSE OF 'PROCESS' INVOLVED, FOLLOWING NJ ARRESTS IN FRAUD SCANDAL

"At the very least, mailing ballots to every registration on file – knowing that a significant number of registrations are erroneous or outdated – is a significant waste of scarce resources," the report says, noting that a recent estimate from Clark County, Nevada predicted it would cost at least $323,000 to mail ballots to inactive registrants.

When ballots were sent to inactive voters in Nevada's May primary, ballots were found piled up in post office trays, outside apartment complexes, and on community bulletin boards in and around Las Vegas. One report said ballots were even found in a trash can.

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"Taxpayers' dollars are literally being thrown away because of ill-conceived vote-by-mail schemes," the Honest Elections Project report says.

In addition to the waste of money, the group warns that fraud is a real concern, citing past examples of how mailed ballots have been used improperly, such as voting on behalf of dead people or submitting votes in multiple states in the same election.

NEVADA'S VOTE-BY-MAIL PRIMARY STIRS FRAUD CONCERNS, AS UNCLAIMED BALLOTS PILE UP: 'SOMETHING STINKS HERE'

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Earlier this year up to 800 ballots were disqualified in Paterson, N.J., after hundreds of ballots were found in the mail bundled together, despite a state law forbidding anyone from handling or sending more than three mail-in ballots together. Several individuals – including a councilman-elect – are now facing criminal charges for alleged election fraud.

This was the first time New Jersey had done an all mail-in election, and the Honest Election Project warns that any state attempting an all new system with November's presidential election is putting itself at risk for complications, fraudulent or otherwise. While some states already have mail-in voting, Washington State Secretary of State Kim Wyman told The New York Times in April that while her state has security measures in place to prevent and punish voter fraud, hers is a system that has been developed over the course of a years-long process.

HOW BALLOT HARVESTING HELPED DEMS ROUT GOP IN CALIFORNIA

Wyman said it was unlikely that national mail-in voting would be feasible this November.

"You can't just flip a switch and go from real low absentee ballots to 100 percent vote-by-mail," she told the Times.

Democrats are accusing Republicans of attempting to suppress votes by requiring in-person voting during a pandemic, claiming that such a move would force voters to choose between exercising their rights and protecting their health.

New Jersey, Delaware prepare to hold primaries

More states are adopting a hybrid system of mail-in and in-person voting; William La Jeunesse reports.

The Honest Elections Project suggests that this does not have to be an either/or situation if proper measures are taken. This would include expanding absentee voting for vulnerable populations, sending applications for mail-in ballots which would at least require individuals to provide personal information to confirm their identities prior to receiving ballots, and social distancing measures for in-person voting.

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The Project's director Jason Snead said that recent incidents support the findings of a commission from 15 years ago that warned of the problems posed by mail-in voting.

"In 2005 former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker co-chaired a commission on election reform that found serious problems and risks with mail-in voting. Today in 2020, four people - including a sitting city councilman and a councilman-elect - face criminal charges for trying to rig an all-mail election in Paterson, New Jersey," Snead said in a statement.

He added: "Automatically mailing ballots, weakening election safeguards, and trying to impose a national mail-in election on an entire country in four months is a recipe for disaster. We need to ensure it is easy and safe to vote this November, but not at the expense of the credibility of our democracy."

[Nov 09, 2020] Political insider explains voter fraud with mail-in ballots

Nov 09, 2020 | nypost.com

Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

By Jon Levine

August 29, 2020 | 5:24pm | Updated

Enlarge Image Mail-in ballot AP MORE ON: VOTER FRAUD First lady echoes president's claim of 'illegal' votes Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani teases up to 10 new election lawsuits South Dakota gov spars with anchor over election results Panic-stricken Trump Jr. calls for 'total war' in clueless tweet

A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he's been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades.

Mail-in ballots have become the latest flashpoint in the 2020 elections. While President Trump and the GOP warn of widespread manipulation of the absentee vote that will swell with COVID polling restrictions, many Democrats and their media allies have dismissed such concerns as unfounded.

But the political insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he fears prosecution, said fraud is more the rule than the exception. His dirty work has taken him through the weeds of municipal and federal elections in Paterson, Atlantic City, Camden, Newark, Hoboken and Hudson County and his fingerprints can be found in local legislative, mayoral and congressional races across the Garden State. Some of the biggest names and highest office holders in New Jersey have benefited from his tricks, according to campaign records The Post reviewed.

"An election that is swayed by 500 votes, 1,000 votes -- it can make a difference," the tipster said. "It could be enough to flip states."

The whisteblower -- whose identity, rap sheet and long history working as a consultant to various campaigns were confirmed by The Post -- says he not only changed ballots himself over the years, but led teams of fraudsters and mentored at least 20 operatives in New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania -- a critical 2020 swing state.

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"There is no race in New Jersey -- from city council to United States Senate -- that we haven't worked on," the tipster said. "I worked on a fire commissioner's race in Burlington County. The smaller the race, the easier it is to do."

A Bernie Sanders die-hard with no horse in the presidential race, he said he felt compelled to come forward in the hope that states would act now to fix the glaring security problems present in mail-in ballots.

"This is a real thing," he said. "And there is going to be a f–king war coming November 3rd over this stuff If they knew how the sausage was made, they could fix it."

Mail-in voting can be complicated -- tough enough that 84,000 New Yorkers had their mailed votes thrown out in the June 23 Democratic presidential primary for incorrectly filling them out.

But for political pros, they're a piece of cake. In New Jersey, for example, it begins with a blank mail-in ballot delivered to a registered voter in a large envelope. Inside the packet is a return envelope, a "certificate of mail in voter" which the voter must sign, and the ballot itself.

That's when the election-rigger springs into action.

Phony ballots

The ballot has no specific security features -- like a stamp or a watermark -- so the insider said he would just make his own ballots.

"I just put [the ballot] through the copy machine and it comes out the same way," the insider said.

But the return envelopes are "more secure than the ballot. You could never recreate the envelope," he said. So they had to be collected from real voters.

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He would have his operatives fan out, going house to house, convincing voters to let them mail completed ballots on their behalf as a public service. The fraudster and his minions would then take the sealed envelopes home and hold them over boiling water.

"You have to steam it to loosen the glue," said the insider.

He then would remove the real ballot, place the counterfeit ballot inside the signed certificate, and reseal the envelope.

"Five minutes per ballot tops," said the insider.

The insider said he took care not to stuff the fake ballots into just a few public mailboxes, but sprinkle them around town. That way he avoided the attention that foiled a sloppy voter-fraud operation in a Paterson, NJ, city council race this year, where 900 ballots were found in just three mailboxes.

"If they had spread them in all different mailboxes, nothing would have happened," the insider said.

Inside jobs

The tipster said sometimes postal employees are in on the scam.

"You have a postman who is a rabid anti-Trump guy and he's working in Bedminster or some Republican stronghold He can take those [filled-out] ballots, and knowing 95% are going to a Republican, he can just throw those in the garbage."

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In some cases, mail carriers were members of his "work crew," and would sift ballots from the mail and hand them over to the operative.

In 2017, more than 500 mail-in ballots in New York City never arrived to the Board of Elections for races that November -- leaving hundreds disenfranchised. They eventually were discovered in April 2018. "For some undetermined reason, some baskets of mail that were bound to the New York City Board of Elections were put off to the side at the Brooklyn processing facility," city elections boss Michael Ryan said at the time of discovery.

Nursing homes

Hitting up assisted-living facilities and "helping" the elderly fill out their absentee ballots was a gold mine of votes, the insider said.

"There are nursing homes where the nurse is actually a paid operative. And they go room by room by room to these old people who still want to feel like they're relevant," said the whistleblower. "[They] literally fill it out for them."

The insider pointed to former Jersey City Mayor Gerald McCann, who was sued in 2007 after a razor-thin victory for a local school board seat for allegedly tricking "incompetent and ill" residents of nursing homes into casting ballots for him. McCann denied it, though he did admit to assisting some nursing home residents with absentee ballot applications.

Voter impersonation

When all else failed, the insider would send operatives to vote live in polling stations, particularly in states like New Jersey and New York that do not require voter ID. Pennsylvania, also for the most part, does not.

The best targets were registered voters who routinely skip presidential or municipal elections -- information which is publicly available.

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"You fill out these index cards with that person's name and district and you go around the city and say, 'You're going to be him, you're going to be him,'" the insider said of how he dispatched his teams of dirty-tricksters.

At the polling place, the fake voter would sign in, "get on line and vote," the insider said. The impostors would simply recreate the signature that already appears in the voter roll as best they could. In the rare instance that a real voter had already signed in and cast a ballot, the impersonator would just chalk it up to an innocent mistake and bolt.

Bribing voters

The tipster said New Jersey homeless shelters offered a nearly inexhaustible pool of reliable -- buyable -- voters.

"They get to register where they live in and they go to the polls and vote," he said, laughing at the roughly $174 per vote Mike Bloomberg spent to win his third mayoral term. He said he could have delivered the same result at a 70 percent discount -- like when Frank "Pupie" Raia, a real estate developer and Hoboken nabob, was convicted last year on federal charges for paying low-income residents 50 bucks a pop to vote how he wanted during a 2013 municipal election.

Organizationally, the tipster said, his voter-fraud schemes in the Garden State and elsewhere resembled Mafia organizations, with a boss (usually the campaign manager) handing off the day-to-day managing of the mob soldiers to the underboss (him). The actual candidate was usually kept in the dark deliberately so they could maintain "plausible deniability."

With mail-in ballots, partisans from both parties hash out and count ballots at the local board of elections -- debating which ballots make the cut and which need to be thrown out because of irregularities.

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The insider said any ballots offered up by him or his operation would come with a bent corner along the voter certificate -- which contains the voter signature -- so Democratic Board of Election counters would know the fix was in and not to object.

"It doesn't stay bent, but you can tell it's been bent," the tipster said. "Until the [certificate] is approved, the ballot doesn't matter. They don't get to see the ballot unless they approve the [certificate.]"

"I invented bending corners," the insider boasted, saying once the fixed ballots were mixed in with the normal ones, the bed was made. "Once a ballot is opened, it's an anonymous ballot."

While federal law warns of prison sentences of up to five years, busted voter frauds have seen far less punishment. While in 2018 a Texas woman was sentenced to five years, an Arizona man busted for voting twice in the mail was given just three years' probation . A study by the conservative Heritage Foundation found more than 1,000 instances of documented voter fraud in the United States, almost all of which occurred over the last 20 years.

"There is nothing new about these techniques," said Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow at Heritage who manages their election law reform initiative. "Everything he's talking about is perfectly possible."

The city Board of Elections declined to answer Post questions on ballot security.

[Nov 09, 2020] Explainer- Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it - Reuters

Nov 09, 2020 | www.reuters.com

Explainer: Fraud is rare in U.S. mail-in voting. Here are the methods that prevent it

By Andy Sullivan

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - With the number of Americans voting by mail on Nov. 3 expected to nearly double due to COVID-19, election experts see little reason to expect an increase in ballot fraud, despite President Donald Trump's repeated claims.

In fact it Formed nearly a quarter of Voters

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Voting by mail is not new in the United States -- nearly 1 in 4 voters cast 2016 presidential ballots that way. Routine methods and the decentralized nature of U.S. elections make it very hard to interfere with mailed ballots, experts say.

While mail balloting has its drawbacks, it can help minimize the long lines, faulty voting machines and COVID-19-induced staffing shortages that have plagued some elections this year.

HOW SECURE IS IT?

Election experts say it would be nearly impossible for foreign actors to disrupt an election by mailing out fake ballots, a scenario floated by Attorney General William Barr.

For one thing, voters won't just be selecting a president: They might be choosing candidates for city council, school board and weighing in on ballot initiatives. That can require hundreds of different ballot designs in a single county and the United States has more than 3,000 counties.

Ballots aren't counted if they aren't printed on the proper type of paper and don't include specific technical markings.

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States also require voters to sign the outside of their envelope, which they match to a signature on file.

Some 29 states and the District of Columbia allow voters to track their ballots to ensure they are received, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Fourteen states and D.C. also allow voters to return their ballots by hand if they don't trust the mail.

Those envelopes are typically opened by a different group of workers than those who scan the ballots. Outside observers are allowed to monitor the process to ensure voter privacy.

IS FRAUD A PROBLEM?

As with other forms of voting, documented cases of mail-ballot fraud are extremely rare.

The conservative Heritage Foundation, which has warned of the risks of mail voting, found 14 cases of attempted mail fraud out of roughly 15.5 million ballots cast in Oregon since that state started conducting elections by mail in 1998.

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The most prominent cases of mail fraud have involved campaigns, not voters. North Carolina invalidated the results of a 2018 congressional election after state officials found that a Republican campaign operative had orchestrated a ballot fraud scheme.

Experts say those scenarios can be minimized by nixing requirements -- currently in place in 11 states -- which instruct voters to get at least one witness to sign their return envelopes.

"All of these policies remove the need to hand over your ballot to someone you don't know," said Tammy Patrick, a former election official in Maricopa County, Arizona.

DOES IT HELP TURNOUT?

Turnout rates tend to be higher in states that conduct elections by mail. A Stanford University study found that participation increased by roughly 2 percentage points in three states that rolled out universal voting by mail from 1996 to 2018. It had no effect on partisan outcome and did not appear to give an advantage to any particular racial, economic or age group.

In Colorado, 77% of voting age citizens cast ballots in the 2016 presidential election, the highest figure in the country, according to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. In Oregon, that figure was 72% and in Washington it was 68%, well above the national rate of 63%.

[Nov 09, 2020] From Chads To Ballot Creep, Democrats Are Perfecting Election Heists

Nov 09, 2020 | thefederalist.com

Each day we have watched the vote tallies in a half-dozen key states drift inexorably toward blue, many of which were heading solidly red on election night. Is it possible to elect the leader of the free world in this way, in a closed-door system that reeks of possible corruption?

The legality of ballots must be determined first. The count comes second. As significant as the "hanging chads" were in 2000, ballot creep has emerged as the determining issue in 2020. It's a skill that Democrats perfected in past elections.

Back in 2008, incumbent Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman seemed on his way to re-election against comedian Al Franken. After the ballots were counted, Coleman had a 725-vote lead. But then the post-Election Day vote-gathering kicked into high gear. By the time it was over, an exhausting eight months later, Coleman was cleaning out his Capitol Hill office and Franken was moving in. His margin of victory: 312 votes.

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The process by which it all happened is instructive as to how Democrats operate. The initial canvass in Minnesota had resulted in a 206-vote lead for Coleman. Democrats were just getting started, though, as a phalanx of attorneys descended on the blue state. Caches of ballots began to appear, starting with 200 that had not been counted on election night.

An envelope with ten absentee ballots was found in a Democratic stronghold. And 953 previously rejected absentee ballots were included in the second recount, yielding a net pickup of 176 votes for Franken. Nineteen precincts in Democrat-friendly Minneapolis ended up reporting more votes than voters . By January, the State Canvassing Board certified Franken as the winner.

Just a few years prior in Washington state, Republican Dino Rossi lost by 129 votes in the closest gubernatorial election in the history of the United States. He had led Democrat Christine Gregoire in both the initial count (261 votes) and the machine recount (42 votes). Consideration of 573 previously rejected ballots had only added to his lead, then up to 74 votes.

But then a tray of 162 "misplaced" absentee votes was suddenly discovered in a warehouse in Democrat-heavy King County, and by the end of December Gregoire was ahead by 130 votes . Litigation followed but was never successful in unseating her.

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Before, there was Lyndon Johnson's election to the Senate in 1948 via a batch of 202 ballots found six days after polls closed in a small town in south Texas, and John Kennedy's election to the presidency in 1960 via fake voter registrations (names found on cemetery tombstones and an empty house with 56 votes tied to it).

The lesson is clear: Democrats believe in finding votes, until they're ahead. Then it's game over. It's a sport Democrats know well, but Republicans seem to instinctively fail to understand. As Coleman commented , "I've watched this drama before. The other side is very good at this. if you have an accounting process that simply allows unlimited ballots to kind of come in without being checked, without being verified, without having timestamps, who knows what you get in the end?"

Democrats will argue that Al Gore was cheated out of victory in 2000, but the simple truth is that, for once, they were stopped from perpetual recounting in accordance with the law. There had already been an initial count (1,784 Bush margin), and then a state-mandated machine recount which again yielded a Bush win (327 votes).

It should've ended there, but Gore's team then sought a manual recount in four selected counties, and eventually the Florida Supreme Court ordered a state-wide manual recount that threatened to go on forever. Four days later, on December 12, 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court stopped it on the grounds that different counting methods were being used, a violation of the Equal Protection Clause, and the fact that the state's electoral deadline was at hand.

The decision ended Democrats' attempts to continue counting "hanging chads" ad infinitum. Writing in support of the ruling, Justice Antonin Scalia warned of "irreparable harm" by "the counting of votes that are of questionable legality." With words that could be called upon today, he noted that, "Count first, and rule upon legality afterwards, is not a recipe for producing election results that have the public acceptance democratic stability requires."

The Supreme Court must soon hear these arguments in another presidential race. More important than whether the person who takes the oath of office in January is Republican or Democrat is the confidence of the American people in the validity and fairness of the process. We may be witnessing the end of election integrity -- and nations do not long stand when the foundation of democracy is shattered. Bob Anderson is a partner and CFO of a hotel development company and a former aerospace engineer who worked on the International Space Station and interned in Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) at the Pentagon. He is also a licensed commercial pilot. Photo WTF Colorado / Flickr

[Nov 09, 2020] Trump Campaign Files First Election Fraud Lawsuit; Ohio AG Asks Supreme Court To Overturn PA Ballot Ruling -

Nov 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Trump Campaign Files First Election Fraud Lawsuit; Ohio AG Asks Supreme Court To Overturn PA Ballot Ruling

by Tyler Durden Mon, 11/09/2020 - 18:09 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Update 1810ET: The Trump campaign has filed a 105-page lawsuit in the US District Court in Pennsylvania alleging that the state operated an illegal 'two-tiered' voting system for the 2020 general election , and has sought to block the state from certifying the count.

As LawandCrime.com reports, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat, and seven Keystone State county boards of elections are listed as defendants . These boards come from Allegheny, Centre, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, Northampton, and Philadelphia counties.

The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann, a Barack Obama appointee.

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Update 1635ET: Monday just keeps getting more and more interesting. As claims of fraud and invalidated ballots pile up, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) threw their support behind election challenges (implying there's a 'there' there).

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For starters , Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost has filed a 'friend of the court' brief with the Supreme Court in support of Pennsylvania Republicans, who want the USSC to overturn the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's late October ruling allowing absentee ballots which arrived up to three days after election day .

"The States need an answer to that question, which is certain to arise again in future elections. And it is important to provide that answer now because, without a ruling from this Court, doubts will continue to linger about whether the vote count in Pennsylvania was performed in conformity with the Constitution," reads the filing by Yost, which was also signed by Ohio Solicitor General Benjamin Flowers and Chief Deputy Solicitor General Michael Hendershot. (source: cleveland.com .

Read the filing here .

Next, two GOP Senators from Georgia have called on the state's Republican Secretary of State to resign over his alleged failure 'to deliver honest and transparent elections.'

And as we noted earlier:

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The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has agreed to consider a GOP challenge claiming that Republican observers were unable to oversee ballot counting, thereby invalidating hundreds of thousands of votes, according to Reuters .

The decision to hear the case is separate from a challenge to the PA Supreme Court's ruling regarding ballots received after election day.

The news comes as Rudy Giuliani says at least 50 GOP witnesses say they were 'corralled' by Philadelphia election officials on election day and 'weren't able to see a single ballot' counted behind closed doors. He claims that the roughly 800,000 votes counted after that ' are invalid .'

Giuliani detailed the claims in an interview with Newsmax - where he announced that the first of five lawsuits will be filed on Monday in Pennsylvania 'challenging the entire vote on a number of grounds. '

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"In this lawsuit we have over 50 witnesses who will say that the vote count, particularly once the election ended that night and President Trump was ahead by 800,000 votes in Pennsylvania, the count thereafter was unlawful ," said Giuliani, adding: "It was counted behind closed doors. Republicans were not given an opportunity to see any of the mail-in ballots as required by Pennsylvania law. Pennsylvania law requires that for a ballot to be valid, a mail ballot to be valid, it has to be observed by both sides."

"We have 55 Republicans ready to testify that they were uniformly corralled and weren't able to see a single ballot . They saw a lot of activity, but no ballot. Every one of those ballots that was cast that was not examined, is now an illegal ballot - an unlawful vote. -Rudy Giuliani

Giuliani continued: "Not just in Philadelphia, however, precisely the same thing was done in Pittsburgh. The only difference is - when a court intervened in Philadelphia they didn't follow the court order, and our people were threatened with arrest if we tried to look at the ballots . Whereas in Pittsburgh, halfway through, they allowed some observation. So the numbers of unlawful ballots in Philadelphia are about twice the number in Pittsburgh."

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Over the weekend, Giuliani told Fox News host Maria Bartiromo " This is documented on videotape. There are upwards of 50 witnesses. And this will be the subject of a lawsuit that we file tomorrow for violating civil rights, for conducting an unfair election, for violating the law of the state, for treating Pittsburgh and Philadelphia different than the rest of the state, which is an equal protection violation, which goes under Bush vs. Gore. "

Meanwhile in Nevada , a Clark County poll worker has claimed in a sworn affidavit that proof of residence data was fabricated for illegal voters , among other claims.

The whistleblower claims that they worked 13 out of 14 days during early voting 'from October 17th - 30th,' where they 'had concerns over election polling place intimidation and voter fraud.'

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Among the whistleblower's claims:

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"We were told by [redacted] (my team leader), and two other assistants to advise people who wanted to register to vote and did not have the proper Nevada ID/Driver's license that they could go out in the parking lot and make an appointment with the DMV to get a Nevada ID/Driver's License, and then bring in proof of their appointment confirmation (either a paper copy or show it on their phone to us) and then they would be registered."

"We were told to add two zeroes ("00") to the DMV confirmation number and put it where the Driver's License/ID number was supposed to go when we filled in the registration form on line."

"Our team leader [redacted] had to go out several times a day to tell the Biden/Harris team they had to stay 100 feet from the location doors . As they would give folks signs to carry up to the door coming to vote. The Biden/Harris bus and/or van was there 7-8 days out of the 14 days."

"I personally witnessed two people handing multiple unopened mail in ballot envelopes to two other people who then opened and filled out the ballots against the side of the Biden/Harris van . The same two people who marked the ballots then put the marked ballots in official pink and white envelopes. These individuals were not poll workers."

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"By my final walking lap, there were 5 or 6 additional people who formed a human wall , which moved as I walked by, apparently in an attempt to block my view of the four people who were opening envelopes, marking ballots, and placing those ballots in the pink and white return envelopes ."

On Saturday, the Clark County Registrar of Voters, Joe Gloria, acknowledged that his office had received reports of potential voter fraud , but that they wouldn't investigate them until after the election is completed.

"We do have some reports that have come in that we're logging for reporting. But we're definitely going to do an investigation, and we'll deal with them once the canvass is finished," said Gloria. "The votes are in the system at this point, so we'll have to after the election, post-election, go after anything that's been reported at this time."


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800K unmonitored ballots?

Naw...that doesn't smack of possible fraud at all.

[Nov 09, 2020] Any legal effort to show the Election Process was above-board or corrupted would require substantially more information, timelines to be established, data to verify and trend, witnesses to identify interview, affidavits to collect, and legal arguments to present.

The USA has CIA, DIA and NSA and can't create reliable voting machines. something is really fishy here. Some clearly amateurish solutions are in place. May be this is by design.
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Consider:

Dominion Voting Systems were used in Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and other states.

"Voting System Examination of Dominion Voting Systems Democracy Suite 5.5" - Brian Mechler, Technical Examiner, February 15, 2019
https://www.sos.texas.gov/e...

Conclusion: " I do not recommend the EMS Express [ or EMS Standard electronic voting systems by Dominion ] for use in elections in the State of Texas."

"If a ballot has to be removed from the underside of the scanner to clear the jam, the privacy of the vote is not maintained "

"The voting UI does not allow a voter to crossover vote from straight party to no selection in a partisan contest."

"Another major concern is the quality of the scanned ballot images. Write-in selections written in ballpoint pen were illegible. Even the scanned images of ballots generated by Dominion's own ballot marking devices were of poor quality ."

" If a USB device was added while the [ voting ] tablet was powered down, no warnings appeared at startup and the poll worker could open the polls unaware of any change. "

" The ICX Prime BMD [voting system by Dominion] is not safe from fraudulent or unauthorized manipulation ..."

"Voters could end up with printouts that accurately spell out the names of the candidates they picked, but, because of a hack, the bar codes do not reflect those choices. Because the bar codes are what's tabulated, voters would never know that their ballots benefited another candidate."
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Huh. What do you know.

And, that's only for the Dominion Voting System machines.

Philadelphia, for example, also uses over 37,000 ExpressVote XL paper ballot voting machines, manufactured by Election Systems & Software of Omaha, Nebraska:

"...plaintiffs led by ex-Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein recently asked a federal judge to enforce the settlement terms. They claim the Pa. Department of State hasn't upheld the agreement's parameters for upgrading voting systems statewide by the end of the year. And they've asked U.S District Court Judge Paul S. Diamond to order DoS to decertify the ExpressVote XL voting machine, the pick in three Pa. jurisdictions (Philadelphia, Northampton and Cumberland counties)."
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Seems the GOP aren't the only ones raising concern over voting machines. The only ones who aren't concerned are the self-declared "winners" using them.

People might recall that President Trump won Pennsylvania by only 44,000 votes back in 2016, and may also recall during the 2912 Election 59 precincts in the Philly area had 100% of their votes go to Mitt Romney despite the fact Philly had only about 73% registered Democrats.

So, a fair, open, honest, and transparent election process would be important in Philly.

Now, before anyone provides a knee-jerk reactions like "conspiracy theory", "certifiable", "sour grapes", etc. and proclaims I may be wearing a possibly-too-tight tin-foil hat, consider the information above is just the tip of any legal process: Any legal effort to show the Election Process was above-board or corrupted would require substantially more information, timelines to be established, data to verify and trend, witnesses to identify & interview, affidavits to collect, and legal arguments to present.

Finally, to satisfy the Liberal naysayers, let me finish with: Why, I'll bet that to date there's more evidence showing fraud in the 2020 Election Cycle than there was to justify the claims of "Man-made, irreversible global warming". Hayte to see all those knee-jerk reactions and donations of tin-foil go to waste.

Just saying.

[Nov 09, 2020] Richard J Daily pulled the same stunt and waited until all the votes were in. Then delivered just enough from Chicago to give the victory to JFK over Nixon.

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Richard J Daily pulled the same stunt and waited until all the votes were in.. Then delivered just enough from Chicago to give the victory to JFK over Nixon.

When Trump beats this fraudulent election. First on the list Voter ID and hardening of the ballot process.

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Without control of both houses of CONgress, no such thing will pass on a federal level.

The party that filed 300 lawsuits to remove state election laws & legalize ballot harvesting will simply never do so & 💋-asses like Grahamnesty, Pierre Delecto & many there are only too happy to compromise the nation away.

[Nov 09, 2020] The Fight for The Soul of Our Republic Has Begun by Larry C Johnson

Nov 09, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

If Joe Biden had run a real campaign and generated genuine enthusiasm, Trump voters would be unhappy with his victory but would acknowledge he had won. But Biden did not win. This election was stolen. And the fury and bitterness among Trump's base is real and pervasive. So far, Trump supporters are keeping their powder dry–literally and figuratively. They are going to give the institutions, particularly the Justice Department, the opportunity to set things right in accordance with the law. But there is a limit to their patience. I know that Donald Trump understands this point, it remains to be seen if Attorney General Bill Barr grasps the situation. From what I know of Bill Barr, especially from friends who are close with Barr, he understands the danger and the implications perhaps even better than President Trump.

The latest coup attempt is a mixture of audacity and sloppiness. On the audacious side we see a coordinated effort in key battleground states to stop counting votes when it was clear that Trump was in the lead and headed to a second term. The reason to stop counting was to bring in the thousands of votes that would make it appear that Trump lost. But for those of us in Florida, we saw the Democrat plans thwarted and the true depth of Trump's victory.

Here is where we see the sloppiness of the Democrat plot against Trump–the Dems foolishly forgot to cook the books on the House and the Senate. Trump's coat tails brought significant gains in the House of Representatives and prevented a wipeout in the Senate. It is historically and statistically improbable that Republicans win back seats in House and hold the Senate while Trump allegedly loses. Trump did not lose. He garnered the most votes ever for a Republican but could not control the Democrat Governors who opted to stuff ballot boxes with bogus ballots. There is a legal, lawful remedy to this.

I got my start at the CIA as the Honduran analyst during the height of the war in Central America. Part of my duties required me to keep tabs on political chicanery that was rampant among Honduran political, business and military leaders. I am now stunned to witness that this Republic–thanks to the craven and corrupt actions of politicians, business leaders and the media–behave like a shithole banana republic. The days of America pretending to instruct other countries on how to conduct free, fair elections is over.

So, what are we to do? First, Trump supporters in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada must demand action by their state legislators. Those men and women must stand up and be counted and must fight this outrage.

Second, turn off the media and cancel subscriptions to those publications that have facilitated this evil farce. This means Fox. Only News Max and OAN can be relied on now to report what is going on. An honest media would be reporting on the growing mountains of evidence that the will of the voters was thwarted. Our so-called media, for the most part, is mute or insisting that we did not see what we very clearly saw–i.e., votes for Biden magically appearing in the middle of the night, Republican observers being barred illegally from doing their job, Trump supporters showing up to vote and being informed that they had already voted, and long lists of dead people who were resurrected from their graves to cast a vote for Sleepy Joe.

Third, shutdown your Facebook and your Twitter accounts. Create fake accounts and do not post any personal information about your activities or those of your family. Only support genuine social media that allow full, unfettered discussion. Sign up for Parler, for example.

Fourth, vote with your dollars. Make sure you are not supporting the tech giants that are continuing to play a hand in trying to quash dissent and drown out the truth.

Fifth, if you own a firearm make damn sure you know how to use it. You must know without a doubt how to safely load, unload, fire and clean your weapon. There are thousands of NRA instructors ready to assist.

Sixth, change your viewing habits. Give up your Netflix account. Don't support Hollywood. If you don't watch their movies and buy their products you will hit them where it really hurts–the pocketbook.

Seventh, Do the Math! Trump supporters in every state must obtain official state registered voter counts on Nov 2. Compare those totals to the numbers put up at the end of November 3rd. Why? You couldn't have voted if you weren't registered. Next, compare the addition of Nov 2 voters to those added on Nov 3 TO the total votes for a state. If total votes / nov 2 plus add ons is greater than the 5 year average of same comparison in 2016, ie percent of voters who voted THEN, there is clear probable cause to show that ballot stuffing occurred.

Last, pray. We are not in a battle with mere mortals. This is at root a war against evil. The constant drumbeat of propaganda proclaiming Donald Trump as a racist, as homophobic and a liar is but one manifestation of this demonic plot. The very people leveling those charges are the ones who have allowed millions of black Americans to wallow in misery in crime ridden neighborhoods. They are the ones who celebrate aborting black babies as a fundamental human right. They are the ones who will gladly sell out to China and sacrifice American jobs in order to rake in millions of dollars.

I understand the gut churning fear that many of you feel. I also understand the seething rage that has yet to manifest itself. Here the radical left, masquerading as Democrats, have made a fatal mistake. They assume we will go quietly into the Gulag. They don't know America.

[Nov 09, 2020] "It Defies Logic": Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data

Nov 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

by Tyler Durden Mon, 11/09/2020 - 11:25 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

A most interesting thread popped up on Twitter Sunday from a data scientist who wishes to remain anonymous, regarding mail-in ballot data which strongly suggests fraud occurred in the wee hours of election night, when several swing states inexplicably stopped reporting vote counts while President Trump maintained a healthy lead over Joe Biden.

Using time series data 'scraped' from the New York Times website, the data - comparing several states (swing and non-swing) - clearly illustrates what fraud does and does not look like, and how several anomalies in swing states left 'fingerprints of fraud' as Biden pulled ahead of President Trump.

Presented below via @APhilosophae :

Continued...

This is based on their proprietary "Edison" data source which would ordinarily be impossible to access for people outside the press. The CSV is available here . And the script to generate it is here . I suggest that everyone back up both of these files , bc this is an extremely important data source, and we cant risk anyone taking it down.

What we are looking at will be time series analysis and you will see that it is extremely difficult to create convincing synthetic times series data. By looking at the times series logs of the ballot counting process for the entire country, we can very easily spot fraud.

One of the first things noticed while exploring the dataset is that there seems to be an obvious pattern in the ratio of new #Biden ballots to new #Trump ballots.

As we can see on this log-log plot, for many of the counting progress updates, we see an almost constant ratio of #Biden to #Trump. It's such a regular pattern that we can actually fit a linear regression model to it with near-perfect accuracy, barring some outliers. How could this be possible? Is this a telltale sign of fraud? Surprisingly, as it will be shown, the answer is no! This is actually expected behavior. Also, we can use this weird pattern in the ballot counting to spot fraud!

Here is the same pattern for Florida . We see this linear pattern again.

And again (Texas)

And again (South Dakota)

And again all over the country. What appears to be happening is that points on the straight line are actually mail in votes . The reason they're so homogeneous across with respect to the ratio of #Biden vs #Trump votes is that they get randomly shuffled in the mail like a deck of cards. Since the ballots are randomly mixed together during transport, spanning areas occupied by multiple voting demographics, we can expect the ratio of mail-in #Biden ballots to mail-in #Trump ballots will remain relatively constant over time and across different reporting updates.

Lets dig a little deeper into this :

Here is a plot of the same Florida voting data, but this time it's the ratio of #Biden to #Trump ballots, versus time. What we see is that the initial ballot reportings are very noisy and "random".

The initial reporting represents in-person voting. These vote reports have such large variation bc in-person voting happens across different geographic areas that have different political alignments. We can see this same pattern of noisy in-person voting, followed by homogeneous mail-in reporting in almost all cases. What we see in almost all examples across the country is that the ratio of mail-in Dem to Rep ballots is very consistent across time, but with the notable drift from Dem to slightly more Rep.

This slight drift from D to R mail-ins occurs again and again, and is likely due to outlying rural areas having more R votes. These outlying areas take longer to ship their ballots to the polling centers.

Now we're getting into the really good stuff . When we see mail-in ballot counting where there isn't relatively stable ratios of D and R ballots that slightly drift R, we have an anomaly! Anomalies themselves are not necessarily fraud, but they can help us spot fraud more easily.

Now let's look at some anomalies:

This is the Wisconsin vote counting history log. Again, on the Y axis we have the ratio of D to R ballots in reporting batch, and on the X axis we have reporting time. Around 4am there, there is a marked shift in the ratio of D to R mail-in ballots . Based on other posts in this thread, this should not happen . This is an anomaly, and while anomalies are not always fraud, often they may point to fraud.

By 4am the D to R ratio was all thrown out of whack. That is because these ballots were not sampled from the real Wisconsin voter population, and they were not randomized in the mail sorting system with the other ballots. They inherently have a different D to R signature than the rest of the ballots quite possibly bc additional ballots were added to the batch, either through backdating or ballot manufacturing or software tampering. This of this being kind of analogous to carbon-14 dating, but for ballot batch authenticity.

Lets look at another anomaly (Pennsylvania):

Here is Pennsylvania's vote counting history. For the first part of the vote counting process, we see the same pattern for mail-in ballots that we've seen in every other state in the country, which is relatively stable D to R ratio that gradually drifts R as more ballots. But then as counting continues, the D to R ratio in mail-in ballots inexplicably begin "increasing" . Again, this should not happen , and it is observed almost nowhere else in the country , because all of the ballots are randomly shuffled in the mail system and should be homogeneous during counting. The only exceptions to this are other suspect states that also have anomalies .

Again, this is evidence of ballot backdating, manufacturing of software tampering .

Lets look at another anomaly:

In Georgia we see pretty much the same story as Pennsylvania: increasing fractions of mail-in D ballots over time even though it defies logic and we see this pattern no where else in the country.

In Michigan , we see a combination of Wisconsin strangeness, together with the GA/PA weirdness. We see both signs of contaminated ballot dumping, and ballot ratios drifting toward dems when they should not be.

Virginia:

Now in fairness, VA is the only state out of the 50 that has anomalies but has not had accusations of voter fraud, yet. I think this is the exception that proves the rule. Yet to figure out what causes this anomalous shift, but here it is so no one accuses me of holding it back.

Lets wrap this up: It appears Dems shot themselves in the foot bc making everyone do mail-in ballots actually makes it easier to catch mail-in ballot fraud . Bc all of the ballots go through the postal system, they get shuffled like a deck of cards, so we expect reported ballot return to be extremely UNIFORM in terms of D vs R ratio, but to drift slightly towards R over time bc some of those ballots travel farther. This pattern proves fraud and is a verifiable timestamp of when each fraudulent action occurred

takeaction , 28 minutes ago

Somebody just sent me this over my phone...Is this correct?

This is going to the Supreme Court where they will rule the election is invalid due to fraud or mistakes on a country wide scale. It will go one of two ways, either they will rule that all the unconstitutional mail in ballots will be removed and the states ordered to recount without them or they will simply rule the election is invalid due to mass voter fraud and at that point it will be sent to the congress and senate for a vote.

This is where it gets good. The House/Congress votes on who the President will be. It has nothing to do with what party that has power. Every state gets one vote and 30 states are held by Republicans / 19 by Democrats.

They have to vote down party lines, they have no choice due to the 12th Amendment of the Constitution and the Senate votes for the Vice President where a similar event will take place. This is The Law. This is why the Democrats are so mad at Nancy Pelosi. This will happen in January. The only way President Trump won't be president is if he concedes the election and that will never happen.

So stop watching the fake news and don't let your heart be troubled and live your life knowing this will all work out. Another fun fact is when they called Gore the President elect back in 2000 until the courts ruled against him and declared Bush the winner –– the two people that were part of that decision was none other than new Supreme Court Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Why do you think the Democrats tried so hard to keep them from being confirmed. :)

Perseus-Reflected , 22 minutes ago

The globalist Dems premature rush to claim victory is so that the MSM narrative can claim Trump 'stole' it from them after working it's way thru the legal system, thereby justifying their riots/chaos/violence against Trump & the Supreme Court's "illegitimacy".

spyware-free , 14 minutes ago

Wrong. If the election is shown to be invalid the results of the electoral college are voided. The SCOTUS under the constitution can and will direct the House of Representatives to resolve the election with a one vote per state basis.

The other less likely option under the constitution is the recount without the ineligible ballots or redo the election. Neither will be done as it can be argued the integrity of the election system has been compromised.

Mr. Bones , 17 minutes ago

The ballots would be invalidated due to ' spoilation ' if that's how it went.

The Democrats would pitch an absolutely epic fit and cry voter disenfranchisement for the next forever.

I'm also not certain that the republican electors would go for it.

LEEPERMAX , 19 minutes ago

Media-Wagons circle Biden . . .

Media Deleting Their Election Night Coverage? NBC News, ABC News, and CBS News Election Night Videos Currently Down

Stay tuned . . .

whateverittakes , 20 minutes ago

The Democrat swing states were using ballot tabulating software made by Democrat partisan activists called "Dominion". They obviously built back doors in the code were votes could be switched or created.

That is why they stopped the counting - changing votes through the back door. Like with your own computer when you are updating or downloading the operating system "exit all other programs"

sleigher , 11 minutes ago

http://199.101.49.110/votedelete-Beshear-Bevin-voteswap.mp4

It was recorded.

"I caught them all" - Donald Trump

Totally_Disillusioned , 11 minutes ago

The most stunning election fraud was more votes for Biden than Obama - BUT ONLY IN MICHIGAN AND PENNSYLVANIA.

Not only are the Dimwits unable to tell the truth they are also unable to effective cheat!

spyware-free , 22 minutes ago

Look up Benfords Law of statistical distribution and how it applies to elections. And then look at the results in key Dem controlled cities.

Self-explanatory what happened and how the fraud was committed as the counting was stopped and new ballot dumps came in.

https://gnews.org/534248/

Totally_Disillusioned , 9 minutes ago

CNN vote totals board is direct feed from election computers. As the election computers are fed tabulations by precincts and counties changes within seconds on CNN. There are now TWO videos people have captured that show Trump's vote totals decreasing and Biden vote total increasing in the election computers. it happens so fast CNN is not always covering them over by changing to other shots. Here's one of those videos. Watch it closely - you will see:

https://twitter.com/A_Blossom4USA/status/1325500457331138567?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1325621840870567936%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F11%2Fbreaking-huge-another-system-glitch-captured-live-cnn-election-night-20000-votes-swapped-trump-biden-video%2F

jim942 , 2 minutes ago

Otherwise known now as Hammer and Scorecard.

Kirk Patrick , 22 minutes ago

Statistician here. I could see this pattern happening in real time in Georgia and knew it was proof of fraud but didn't have all the terminology. Limits make straight lines. Limits don't lean by definition. Great article.

mendigo , 9 minutes ago

I completely support President Trump and his effort to verify and address issues of voting integrity - investigation and court action and corrective measures as warranted.

It's all part of draining the swamp. There remains work to be done.

No time for pleasantries and playing nice.

LEEPERMAX , 10 minutes ago

This is HUGE!

Donald Trump may win the state of Georgia after 132,000 ballots may be ineligible Over 600,000 mail-in -Nevada with NO voter roll signature or envelope signature Michigan counted 149,772 votes in 5 seconds, and less than 6,000 of them were for Trump.

jetsly , 2 minutes ago

Not a statistician, so can't comment on this. Don't have to. Sidney Powell has uncovered the big tell: at least 450,000 ballots with a vote for Biden, and no one else.

It's understandable. In the counting rooms, they had to process tens of thousands of fake ballots in a very short period of time, so they had to cut corners. This was one of them.

EuroPox , 27 minutes ago

There IS a problem in Virginia! 169,000 votes just vanished into thin air:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/captured-real-time-moment-virginia-512-took-169000-votes-off-state-totals/

LEEPERMAX , 20 minutes ago

BREAKING: Donald Trump may win the state of Georgia after 132,000 ballots may be ineligible.

This is HUGE! t.co/3HZJZuzK5Z

-- Ryan Fournier (@RyanAFournier) November 9, 2020

BREAKING: Donald Trump may win the state of Georgia after 132,000 ballots may be ineligible.

This is HUGE! t.co/3HZJZuzK5Z

-- Ryan Fournier (@RyanAFournier) November 9, 2020

NYC_Rocks , 22 minutes ago

Check this out. It was removed on another channel. Watch or download while you can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRV1j5aLxZ0

Cautiously Pessimistic , 5 minutes ago

Just listened to it. Very disturbing and whoever that lady was leading the class/briefing should be arrested and prosecuted. Then every vote that came through her precint/s should be invalidated on grounds that it is fruit from the poisonous tree.

Totally_Disillusioned , 31 minutes ago

Believe the Science!!!

Here's an excellent article that explains some of the statistical anomolies in Biden's votes. These anomolies and expert testimony are real evidence of election fraud.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/statistical-anomalies-in-biden-votes-analyses-indicate_3570518.html

Also lawsuits are proliferating - discovery has begun ! Attorneys general in Missouri and Kentucky have joined a Republican lawsuit challenging PA mail-in ballots before the U.S. Supreme Court

B52Minot , 19 minutes ago

The Goggle searches within these select battleground States for punishment for voter fraud a week BEFORE the election was off the wall...and anyone with a brain know that the typical voters does not normally do that...people who are going to do this fraud are looking at how much they would now be sent to jail for.....BUT FOR ONE THING....several AGs in these battle ground States were Dems and would not prosecute these crimes if discovered...EXCEPT FOR ONE THING....THE FEDS will not provide you protection from prosecution unless you come forward and expose it. Their computers have been ID as who did this search....and cross referencing to who worked doing the counts are KNOWN...YOU have been ID'd.

SO if you are the one who did such fraud better think about that now....discovery is coming as are the FEDS.....There is AMPLE evidence of WIDE-SPREAD FRAUD...in multiple States doing the exact same thing.....which makes it a conspiracy to deceive the USA....that will get people put into jail....and Biden will NOT be certified and the Dems attempt to get control of the USA via fraud will FAIL...and the longer Trump keeps this up the greater the involvement of Biden in this whole thing.....call 1 615 747-1500 and/or contact election2020unmasked.com to provide info on any fraud you did as part of vote counting or similar activity...better do it now.

Canoe Driver , 21 minutes ago

The vote fraud is very obvious. The Biden camp has NOT gambled that no one will be able to detect the fraud. Not at all. Their gamble is that the fraud will NOT be acknowledged publicly, because the risk of discrediting the election system is too great. Many people in positions of responsibility and authority are already saying the rioting would be unstoppable if the Biden campaign fraud were exposed.

[Nov 09, 2020] Joe Biden's votes violate Benford's Law (Mathematics) - Principia Scientific Intl-

Nov 09, 2020 | principia-scientific.com

However, in the Milwaukee County of Wisconsin, which is in one of the key swing states, Joe Biden's votes violate Benford's Law while other candidates' don't. (Joe Biden 69.4%, Donald Trump 29.4%, Jo Jorgensen 0.9%. Source: theguardian.com)

And in Chicago of Illinois, Joe Biden's votes are abnormal.

So does that of Allegheny of Pennsylvania which includes Pittsburg. (Joe Biden 59.0%, Donald Trump 39.9%, Jo Jorgensen 1.2%. Source: theguardian.com)

It looks like maybe Biden had lost big cities like Chicago and Pittsburgh, which is why the fraudulent votes need to be brought in, which skew his curve away from a normal looking one.

For those who are interested to reproduce the analysis, you can follow the instructions here and give it a go.

Read more at gnews.org

[Nov 09, 2020] Benford's Law and the Detection of Election Fraud

Notable quotes:
"... This essay, however, argues that, despite its apparent utility in looking at other phenomena, Benford's Law is problematical at best as a forensic tool when applied to elections. ..."
"... It is not simply that the Law occasionally judges a fraudulent election fair or a fair election fraudulent. Its "success rate" either way is essentially equivalent to a toss of a coin, thereby rendering it problematical at best as a forensic tool and wholly misleading at worst. ..."
Jan 04, 2017 | www.cambridge.org
Abstract

The proliferation of elections in even those states that are arguably anything but democratic has given rise to a focused interest on developing methods for detecting fraud in the official statistics of a state's election returns. Among these efforts are those that employ Benford's Law, with the most common application being an attempt to proclaim some election or another fraud free or replete with fraud.

This essay, however, argues that, despite its apparent utility in looking at other phenomena, Benford's Law is problematical at best as a forensic tool when applied to elections.

Looking at simulations designed to model both fair and fraudulent contests as well as data drawn from elections we know, on the basis of other investigations, were either permeated by fraud or unlikely to have experienced any measurable malfeasance, we find that conformity with and deviations from Benford's Law follow no pattern.

It is not simply that the Law occasionally judges a fraudulent election fair or a fair election fraudulent. Its "success rate" either way is essentially equivalent to a toss of a coin, thereby rendering it problematical at best as a forensic tool and wholly misleading at worst.

[Nov 09, 2020] Do vote counts for Joe Biden in the 2020 election violate Benford's Law

Jan 01, 2020 | skeptics.stackexchange.com

I'll address just the second charts, because they are straight out of How To Lie With Statistics .

As commenters have noted , the vertical scales are different. Narrow vertical scales make changes look larger. While wide vertical scales smooth out changes. Biden's graph is using a more narrow scale than Trump's.

Put them all together in one graph with the same scale and they don't look so different anymore.

I had to eyeball the numbers from the graphs, but more precise numbers won't change the outcome. I don't even know if the numbers are correct. I can say with some certainty that the graphs are deliberately constructed to sell a lie. One or the other scale is a natural choice, either 0 to max or min to max. Someone had to choose to use different vertical axes for each graph.

Disclaimer: I have not looked at the actual data.

In general, the biggest problem with applying Benford's law to district level election data is, that precincts are usually small and similar in size. For example, if all the precincts have around 800 voters and one candidate consistently takes 40-50% of votes, then it is expected, that the most frequent first digits will be 3 and 4.

Benford's law works better in cases where the values span multiple orders of magnitude, which is not the case here.

For concrete examples, it is worth looking at the several Github issues on the source of the analysis:

The disappearance of Benford's law in Milwaukee is a function of voter preference alone. If one candidate has between 60% and 80% average chance of receiving a vote, then the sizes of the wards in Milwaukee are too small to accommodate Benford's law.

More generally, several papers question the usefulness of Benford's law applied to election data:

Does the Application of Benford's Law Reliably Identify Fraud on Election Day?

Unfortunately, my analysis shows that Benford's Law is an unreliable tool. And, as one applies more sophisticated methods of estimation, the results become increasingly inconsistent. Worse still, when compared with observational data, the application of Benford's Law frequently predicts fraud where none has occurred.

Benford's Law and the Detection of Election Fraud

It is not simply that the Law occasionally judges a fraudulent election fair or a fair election fraudulent. Its "success rate" either way is essentially equivalent to a toss of a coin, thereby rendering it problematical at best as a forensic tool and wholly misleading at worst.

Looking at the actual Chicago data at https://www.chicagoelections.gov/en/election-results-specifics.asp by precinct as of late November 7, the charts for Chicago look credible but the assumption that Benford's law should apply do not, at least for Biden/Harris or the minor candidates.

Of the 2069 precincts (most of which are of broadly similar size), Biden/Harris won fewer than 100 votes in 12 precincts, and more than 999 votes in 4 precincts. All the rest (more than 99%) had three digits for their votes, violating the requirement that natural data satisfying Benford's law should span several orders of magnitude . More than half the precincts (1100) gave Biden/Harris from 300 through to 499 votes, making 3 and 4 the most common first digits (the chart reflects this and is close to showing the actual frequencies by hundreds of votes, so 300-399 was the most common).

For Trump/Pence, votes were more widely dispersed: 99 precincts with 1-9 votes, 1339 precincts with 10-99, and 633 precincts with 100 or more votes. This dispersion over orders of magnitude allowed a greater chance of coming closer to matching Benford's law.

For the minor candidates, they only reached double digits in a very small number of precincts (and got 0 votes in hundreds of precincts - not shown on the charts) so the charts are close to showing their actual vote distribution with censoring of 0 and 10+; again you would not expect Benford's law to apply.

Chicago was an odd choice to investigate for suspected cheating in 2020 where the gap in Illinois was 12 percentage points (1960 when it was 0.2 percentage points might have been more interesting). I suspect it was chosen simply because the data is publicly available and the distortions caused by similar precinct size led to this non-Benford law result. You will see this elsewhere for similar reasons: in 2019 very few British MPs won a number of votes starting with 5-9, as their constituencies are of broadly similar sizes and the winners usually got in the range from 10,000 to 49,999 votes, again failing the spanning several orders of magnitude requirement. share improve this answer follow answered yesterday Henry 12.9k 1 1 gold badge 51 51 silver badges 57 57 bronze badges


user3570982 ,

That's a good explanation, though not entirely accurate: There is no requirement for spanning several orders of magnitude, and Benford's Law can be observable even when there is not a wide span of magnitudes. If there is a wide span, Benford's Law tends apply more accurately, but it's not a requirement. What's required is that there not be a cutoff of possible leading digits (a bounding requirement). – user3570982 yesterday

Acccumulation , 2020-11-09 01:58:10

According to Wikipedia:

Benford's law, also called the Newcomb–Benford law, the law of anomalous numbers, or the first-digit law, is an observation about the frequency distribution of leading digits in many real-life sets of numerical data. The law states that in many naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small.
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It tends to be most accurate when values are distributed across multiple orders of magnitude, especially if the process generating the numbers is described by a power law (which is common in nature).

Beford's Law is not some universal phenomenon, and it failing to hold is not "proof" of fraud. For instance, we can play this game with the vote percentages that Donald Trump received in 2016: 11 first digit of 3, 19 first digit of 4, 16 first digit of 5, 9 first digit of , and 1 first digit of 7 (yes, this adds up to 56; some states don't assign electors based on state-wide totals, and there's also DC). Clearly, Trump's vote percentages were fraudulent! In the reddit thread, u/Three-Twelve says

In the case of the Milwaukee data and Detroit cited in the pictures above, the number of votes per voting area does not span over several orders of magnitude, so Benford's Law is not applicable.

The size of a precinct is likely a stronger predictor of the number of votes for Biden, than Biden's support is. If these people want to claim that this is evidence that the number of voters per precinct is not random, that would be more supported by the evidence, but also much more vacuous (it's hardly earth shattering news that some precinct sizes are preferred over others).

The amount by which a candidate's level of support predicts their vote count, compared to how well precinct size does, will increase the more that level of support varies (as a percentage of that support). Thus, if Biden's support varies between 90% and 95%, and Trump's varies from 5% to 10%, Biden's support is varying by a bit more than 5% (the math is a bit confusing, as this is a percentage of a percentage; 5% is a bit more than 5% of 90%), and Trump's support is varying by 100% (5% is 100% of 5%). So Trump's vote totals will vary more than Biden's, and thus Trump's totals will have more variance across orders of magnitude, and Beford's Law will be more applicable (note that Jo Jorgensen, who has even less support than Trump, has a distribution that is also closer to Benford). For an apples to apples comparison, we'd want to compare to places where Trump was the favored candidate, but those are rural areas, and I would expect precinct sizes to vary more in rural areas than in cities.

The Wikipedia article further says:

Based on the plausible assumption that people who fabricate figures tend to distribute their digits fairly uniformly, a simple comparison of first-digit frequency distribution from the data with the expected distribution according to Benford's law ought to show up any anomalous results.

Biden's distribution is consistent neither with Benford, nor with a uniform distribution. It is, however, a very good fit for a Poisson or lognormal distribution.

Whenever you have a statistical analysis, it's important to remember that the what it can tell you is that the observed data is unlikely given your null hypothesis. Going from that to that the null definitely is false requires further justification, and assuming that because the null is false that means that your favored alternative is true is a false dichotomy. If someone has a model in which this voting data is unlikely, all that is an argument for is that their model is false. Democrats engaging is fraud is just one possible way the model could be false. share improve this answer follow edited 20 hours ago answered 20 hours ago Acccumulation 2,003 1 1 gold badge 10 10 silver badges 14 14 bronze badges

KT,

Do vote counts for Joe Biden in the 2020 election violate Benford's Law?

Simple, uninformative answer: They apparently considerably deviate from it, at least on one of the presented charts.

Caveat: This observation alone is not sufficient to jump to any conclusions yet. Two additional questions need to be answered before attempting any jumps:

  1. How (im)probable is this observation under our "normal worldview"?

    Although a commonly observed pattern in election datasets, there are no guarantees for Benford's law to necessarily always emerge. It is therefore important to understand when it is expected to emerge and how far can we expect a given district to deviate from it. This can be done by, for example, analyzing previous elections ( assuming those represent "normal voting"). We can model each district's vote distribution based on historical data and measure the expected degree of deviation from Benford's law. Once this is done, we may assess the probability of seeing the observed deviations under these "normal conditions" (a.k.a. the "p-value"). If this probability ends up being low, we will be able to say that "we are very surprised" by our observations.

  2. What is the cause of the deviation?

    If the analysis in step 1 happens to result in a "sufficietly low" p-value, i.e the data does not match a "normal" worldview, our next order of business is to come up with an explanation - a model of a "new" worldview, which fits the data better (e.g. by including a particular voting fraud process). Only then we can try to jump to any conclusions.

Metacaveat: Although this all would be pretty standard, textbook-approved methodology of data analysis, give up your hopes that this could help anyone "learn the Truth". Both steps include enormous amounts of subjective judgement and, in the end, it is still one's own beliefs that determine which conclusion to jump towards.

The first step ("modeling normality"), despite relying on mathy techniques and bearing resemblance to hard science, is, none the less, a form of art. Depending on which historical data one picks and how one processes it, it may be possible to end up with the p-value estimate ranging between "unbelievable" to "totally expected".

The second step ("modeling abnormality") is even more subjective - one can usually find hundreds of valid explanations, ranging from data errors to seasonal abnormalities to various types of fraud, and the final decision will be determined by one's prior beliefs as to which of these explanations "seem more plausible".

Given how politically charged the question is, convincing someone else in any chosen judgement's "objectivity" here is probably hopeless. However, I would be extremely interested if anyone actually attempted a systematic analysis and suggested a tentative p-value estimate for the observations. share improve this answer follow edited 23 hours ago answered yesterday KT. 153 2 2 bronze badges New contributor

user1781498 ,

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The charts for this question are from this repo . I created a fork of the repo here . I did chi-squared statistics tests on all the counties and all the counties have in the repo have statistically significant data for deviations from Benford's law.

My understanding is that the chi-squared test should be valid for sample sizes over 50. Which is what the benford statistical testing module I'm using says. They use Donald Trump's 2016 election vote data as an example. It did not violate Benford's law. Quote from the module's README:

Dataset should preferably cover at least 1000 samples. Though Benford's law has been shown to hold true for datasets containing as few as 50 numbers.

I think the graphs' weird proportions are mostly just to make the text display correctly. I think it's mostly due to laziness and not thinking about the weird proportions.

There's discussion in the main repo's issues page on how accurate Benford's law is or is not for detecting election fraud. There's also people saying in the issues saying that using the second digit instead of the first is more accurate for detecting election fraud. I don't know whether that's true or not. share improve this answer follow edited yesterday answered yesterday user1781498 33 2 2 bronze badges New contributor

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Such a naive approach is probably misleading. You might want to read this: researchgate.net/publication/BKE 23 hours ago

[Nov 09, 2020] Benford's Law catches Biden red handed- a repost

Nov 09, 2020 | www.tigerdroppings.com

Benford's Law catches Biden red handed: a repost Posted on 11/6/20 at 8:59 pm 63 6 Look at these fricks in Milwaukee. Trump "lost" by 20,000 votes when there was a 100,000+ only Biden vote dump at 4 in the morning.

This post was edited on 11/6 at 9:01 pm

[Nov 09, 2020] Two Statistical Curiosities That Allowed Biden To Pull Ahead In PA- A Limerick and more. Len Bil n's blog, a blog about faith, politics and the environment-

Nov 09, 2020 | lenbilen.com

Two Statistical Curiosities That Allowed Biden To Pull Ahead In PA: A Limerick and more.

The votes that was tallied in Philly

were not added up willy-nilly.

For the fraud is state-wide

leaving no place to hide.

It's treason; deny it is silly.

Two Statistical Curiosities That Allowed Biden To Pull Ahead In PA:

A brief note. I've been asked to examine the Pennsylvania votes. That work is ongoing. Update See below for a serious critique of Benford's law.

I'm showing here (with permission) the one analysis I found most curious.

This is official county-level timed voting data that started at 2020-11-04 11:00:00, a day after the election, to 2020-11-07 11:29:00 which is Saturday night. That is, these are all late vote counts. They start, county by county, where the vote left off on election night.

This is a picture of the running totals by the time the votes were added, summed across all counties, during those time periods. They do not start at 0, but at the totals given after election night.

The early gains for Biden are from, mainly, Philadelphia, Allegheny, Montgomery, Chester and Berks counties. A simple plot

shows the size of vote additions for both candidates, when new vote totals (greater than 0) were added by county (and not all counties added votes after election day).

All goes well for Trump until 2020-11-04 21:15:00 when he loses just under 10,000 votes, but curiously from three different counties simultaneously: -1,063 Allegheny; -2,972 Bucks; -7,135 Chester. Biden never lost any votes (at least, in this late voting).

Understand that this does not mean the decreases happened at this time, but that they were recorded in the official data as happening at that time. And the same is true for our next observation.

Biden's next curiosity was the big increase of 27,396 votes at 2020-11-06 08:53:00 over one consecutive reporting period. This bump is just like the blue-red F-memes you have seen: this only seems more spread out because of the finer time scale used.

These two curiosities account for a 37,263 vote swing for Biden. Biden's total, as of the end of this data, was 3,344,528, and Trump's 3,310,326. Biden therefore "won", in this dataset anyway, by 34,202 votes.

Biden could not have pulled ahead without the curiosities noted above.

There is more to come. Stick around.

Update Benford's law is only useful in uncovering multiple and on-going instances of cheating. As in somebody consistently cooking financial books. As I showed above, assuming the curiosities are cheats, it only took two instances to tip the balance. Benford's law will never pick this up: never.

I'm skeptical of what I'm seeing in other analyses, because if somebody turns something up with Benford, it implies that many, many vote totals were tampered with, which increases the possibilities of getting caught. And you don't need to tamper with many. Only a few.

[Nov 09, 2020] Benford's law and the 2020 election. A Limerick on fraud. Len Bil n's blog, a blog about faith, politics and the environment-

Nov 09, 2020 | lenbilen.com

his is a map of the extent to which Dominion voting machines software is presently used. When votes are tallied it produces results that are not credible according to statistical science.

Joe Biden's votes violate Benford's Law, President Trump's do not.

Benford's law or the first-digit law, is used to check if a set of numbers are naturally occurring or manually fabricated. It has been applied to detect the voting frauds in Iranian 2009 election and various other applications including forensic investigations.

Benford's Law , also called the Newcomb–Benford law, the law of anomalous numbers, or the first-digit law, is an observation about the frequency distribution of leading digits in many real-life sets of numerical data. The law states that in many naturally occurring collections of numbers, the leading digit is likely to be small. For example, in sets that obey the law, the number 1 appears as the leading significant digit about 30% of the time, while 9 appears as the leading significant digit less than 5% of the time. If the digits were distributed uniformly, they would each occur about 11.1% of the time. Benford's law also makes predictions about the distribution of second digits, third digits, digit combinations, and so on.

Plots of the first digits of counts in various precincts and wards for selected counties/cities.

This is Pittsburgh.

But even cities where we know the outcome, the numbers have been manipulated such as

When this fraud is corrected the electoral map will look quite different, and may even swing a few house and senate votes.

[Nov 09, 2020] Does Benford's Law Prove Election Fraud in Biden Votes- - Truth or Fiction-

Nov 09, 2020 | www.truthorfiction.com

Hoft linked to a November 7 2020 GNews.org item with the headline "Joe Biden's votes violate Benford's Law (Mathematics)," which began with a cascade of pseudointellectual lies:

As the vote counting for the 2020 Presidential Election continues, various facts suggest rampant frauds in Joe Biden's votes. So does mathematics in terms of the votes from precincts.

Benford's law or the first-digit law, is used to check if a set of numbers are naturally occurring or manually fabricated. It has been applied to detect the voting frauds in Iranian 2009 election and various other applications including forensic investigations.

On Gab , a blog post written by Hoft was atop its list of trending topics, featuring the following headline:

UPDATE: Facebook and Twitter Suspend Accounts That Posted on Benford's Law Showing Biden's Implausible Vote Totals -- LABELING IT "SEXUAL EXPLOITATION"

This part appears to be legitimate; we are contacting Facebook for details. However, that warning appears to be more a reaction to previous claims made by Hoft and his ilk. We have contacted Facebook for comment.

In that November 8 2020 post, Hoft primarily accused Facebook and Twitter of censoring shares of his tweet and the GNews.org post, writing:

We have heard from many readers who told us once they retweeted this tweet or tried to post it on Facebook their account was suspended! The social media giants are preventing Americans from posting this mathematical evidence that proves Joe Biden's numbers violate the Benford Law of normal distributions!

In a prescient November 6 2020 analysis by the Election Integrity Partnership ("Vote Data Patterns Used to Delegitimize the Election Results"), claims about Benford's Law were one of several topics discussed in relation to potential efforts to delegitimize the final vote tallies with social media-enabled election interference.

The Election Integrity Project also displayed two charts, one called "Vote Tallies Projected against Benford's Law," and the other, "Final Vote Tallies Projected against Benford's Law." Contrasting the two, they wrote:

The figure above ["Vote Tallies Projected against Benford's Law"] shows the leading digit of reported vote tallies across select counties. For instance, the final tally in Dane County, Wisconsin was 338,946. This would count for one county in the 3 column. But why would anyone care to look at this kind of frequency distribution? Data forensic experts use these distributions to investigate fraud. They look at whether empirical distributions of leading digits deviate from a special distribution described by Benford's Law. The law posits that leading digits of numbers are more likely to be smaller numbers (e.g., 1) than larger numbers (e.g., 9).

Armchair investigators during the election have already begun to argue that too many of the submitted vote totals begin with larger single digit numbers (7 or 8 for example), which is being spun as evidence of voter fraud. We caution against this conclusion. Having the distribution of leading digits stray from the expected percentages predicted by Benford's Law can happen by chance, though it is more common when the law's assumptions are violated, as they often are with vote tallies. Benford's Law, and other math-based inquiries, can be used to detect voter fraud, but the vast majority of these violations are not conclusive evidence of fraud.

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Returning to our voting tally in Figure 1, you will see that the tallies deviate from the line of expectation. So, does this mean fraud? Does it mean that vote counters were up to something nefarious? In this case, absolutely not. First, the example above is a simulation based on a computer script, rather than one based on real voter data. If we consider the final output of this 72 county simulation, it ends up looking like Figure 2 ["Final Vote Tallies Projected against Benford's Law"]:

These final results are more predictable and follow the expected counts more closely, but still exhibit expected deviations. These same deviations are occurring in the voting counts currently being reported in the 2020 election. Our aim in this post is to prepare the public and journalists for these misleading arguments and to provide context for the claims already being made online.

In their conclusion, the Election Integrity Partnership noted that claims about Benford's Law "proving" election fraud were based on early, incomplete data -- not to mention a fundamental misunderstanding of how it works. Essentially, claimants citing Benford's Law were cherry picking early or incomplete results to stake their claim:

At this stage, the assumptions that lead to Benford's law are violated leading to the patterns generated in the Figure 1 above. Only once all counties have been counted does the distribution approach something consistent with Benford's law, seen in Figure 2. Even at this stage, the distribution of county sizes still makes it unlikely to exactly match expectations. A more complete model might include non-random voting patterns whereby rural counties lean a different direction than urban ones. This, compared with the relationship between the rate of vote counting and county or precinct size would probably cause more drastic violations of assumptions. As this is a rapid response, incorporating this complexity was impractical.

Unsurprisingly, a spike in interest involving one particular mathematical principle (Benford's Law) led to drama over on the topic's Wikipedia page. On the "Talk" page for "Benford's Law," one section ("Benford, QAnon, and the 2020 election") began:

Following the 2020 United States presidential election result, a number of QAnon folks have been promoting a theory on social media that the failure of voting numbers for Biden to match Benford is a demonstration of likely electoral fraud. This is likely why there has been a big increase in interest in this page, and in particular the electoral fraud section. The short answer is no. These claims are baseless, and come from a misapplication of Benford's law to particular cities in a county, or wards in a city, as opposed to all counties/cities in the US (which is how Benford detected possible fraud in Iran. If you do this analysis in the US you find that yes, all the numbers fit Benford perfectly). Of course, this cannot be posted in the article as it would constitute original research, but it is worth keeping a close eye on the article as there may be misleading edits made in support of the conspiracy theory over the next few days. Awoma (talk) 09:46, 8 November 2020

Application (or misapplication) of Benford's Law to the 2020 election eventually made an appearance in a massive , regularly updated Twitter thread by political reporter Isaac Saul cataloging disinformation around the results of the 2020 election:

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On November 5 2020, Saul first mentioned Benford's Law, noting that he was not initially familiar with the principle nor its purported relation to current election fraud claims:

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Saul eventually cited a 2011 paper ("Benford's Law and the Detection of Election Fraud") from Political Analysis , vol. 19, no. 3. Its abstract explained:

The proliferation of elections in even those states that are arguably anything but democratic has given rise to a focused interest on developing methods for detecting fraud in the official statistics of a state's election returns. Among these efforts are those that employ Benford's Law, with the most common application being an attempt to proclaim some election or another fraud free or replete with fraud. This essay, however, argues that, despite its apparent utility in looking at other phenomena, Benford's Law is problematical at best as a forensic tool when applied to elections. Looking at simulations designed to model both fair and fraudulent contests as well as data drawn from elections we know, on the basis of other investigations, were either permeated by fraud or unlikely to have experienced any measurable malfeasance, we find that conformity with and deviations from Benford's Law follow no pattern . It is not simply that the Law occasionally judges a fraudulent election fair or a fair election fraudulent. Its "success rate" either way is essentially equivalent to a toss of a coin, thereby rendering it problematical at best as a forensic tool and wholly misleading at worst.

A 2006 paper [ PDF ] presented at a political methodology conference addressed the application of Benford's Law alone to evidence claims of election fraud:

Another important issue concerns whether Benford's Law should be expected to apply to all the digits in reported vote counts. In particular, for precinct-level data there are good reasons to doubt that the first digits of vote counts will satisfy Benford's Law. Brady (2005) develops a version of this argument. The basic point is that often precincts are designed to include roughly the same number of voters. If a candidate has roughly the same level of support in all the precincts, which means the candidate's share of the votes is roughly the same in all the precincts, then the vote counts will have the same first digit in all of the precincts. Imagine a situation where all precincts contain about 1,000 voters each, and a candidate has the support of roughly fifty percent of the voters in every precinct. Then most of the precinct vote totals for the candidate will begin with the digits '4' or '5.' This result will hold no matter how mixed the processes may be that get the candidate to roughly fifty percent support in each precinct. For Benford's Law to be satisfied for the first digits of vote counts clearly depends on the occurrence of a fortuitous distribution of precinct sizes and in the alignment of precinct sizes with each candidate's support. It is difficult to see how there might be some connection to generally occurring political processes. So we may turn to the second significant digits of the vote counts, for which at least there is no similar knock down contrary argument.

On skeptics.stackexchange.com, one reader asked about the Benford's Law and Biden votes rumor. Another commenter reiterated that such claims were predicated on cherry-picked early numbers, and promoters of the claim were lying with graphs :

I'll address just the second charts, because they are straight out of How To Lie With Statistics.

As commenters have noted, the vertical scales are different. Narrow vertical scales make changes look larger. While wide vertical scales smooth out changes. Biden's graph is using a more narrow scale than Trump's.

Put them all together in one graph with the same scale and they don't look so different anymore.

[Graph]

I had to eyeball the numbers from the graphs, but more precise numbers won't change the outcome. I don't even know if the numbers are correct. I can say with some certainty that the graphs are deliberately constructed to sell a lie. One or the other scale is a natural choice, either 0 to max or min to max. Someone had to choose to use different vertical axes for each graph.

Rumor's that Biden's victory was impossible because it somehow "violated" Benford's Law gained further traction after Biden's victory was called on November 7 2020, promoted by disinformation purveyors like Jim Hoft. Under even the slightest scrutiny, the claims dissolved for a number of reasons -- such as their basis on early or single-district results, and general existing indications that Benford's Law was a poor model with which to "prove" election fraud across the board.

[Nov 09, 2020] There has never been a more urgent constitutional crisis in our country except maybe during the civil war (the 1st one).

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Allen M. Ease DeplorableChump/sarc... 6 hours ago

Not only that, but all the dead voters need to be expunged, and all the crooked voter fraud schemers like those recorded in the following video should be questioned and/or charged with a felony.
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[Recorded] Voter Fraud -- Michigan -- Detroit [11:38]
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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There has never been a more urgent constitutional crisis in our country except maybe during the civil war (the 1st one).

3 ReplyShare › − Avatar Deplorable Texan Allen M. Ease 6 hours ago

I can't watch that. My blood pressure, oi vey!

[Nov 09, 2020] The Democrats all stopped counting in numerous states on election night to give them time to "create" some extra mail-in Biden votes.

Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Rob TheDrewtho 2 days ago • edited

The GOP will stand with Trump, and Trump will be legally reelected. The Michigan Legislature just convened a special session to consider the widespread ballot stuffing, technical "glitches," and other suspicious activity in their election. Everyone in Michigan knows that Trump and James won that election in a landslide.

The Democrats all stopped counting in numerous states on election night to give them time to "create" some extra mail-in Biden votes.

The legislature, controlled by the GOP, will invalidate the election if there is evidence of fraud. They have the Constitutional right to instruct the electors. America will not let the Democrats steal an election the way they do in Venezuela. THIS JUST IN: The Wisconsin legislature, controlled also by the GOP, has been called to investigate voter fraud too!! Milwaukee had an unprecedented 91% return rate, more than any precinct in history by 20 points. No fraud? We'll see. TruLogix Dennis Mastin 2 days ago

Yeah good luck. The work has been done. The ballots removed are long gone. GOP is to blame this was obvious and they put nothing in place to stop this knowing it was most likely part of the plan with all of the dems fighting tooth and nail for mail in. Bullet2354 Avery Bierce 2 days ago • edited

In places like Michigan, more republicans requested Absentee Ballots than Democrats...

And More republicans returned their Absentee Ballots than Democrats....

This data is public information; reported by the state. Bullet2354 trackrunner11 . a day ago

Vote Integrity will prevail.
https://www.youtube.com/wat... Bullet2354 Avery Bierce 2 days ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...

Click "MI"

then Absentee voters...

It is State Data.
Bullet2354
Avery Bierce a day ago

The 20% could be mostly Biden... but 80-20%. Dems did pick up votes... but so did Trump!

And while I know you feel some republicans did not like Trump... all polling done this year shows 89-94% of Republicans were supporting Trump - actually much higher than Dem support for Biden...
- the Trump 'Voter Enthusiasm was off the charts"..... Biden had historic LOW 'voter enthusiasm most of the summer.

Also - many Bernie People (about 25% in spring) stated they would never vote Democrat after what the DNC did to Bernie in 2016 and 2020. Maybe the came back to Biden - but I don't know... I did not see Bernie people rallying for Joe at all.

I think the "ILLEGAL BALLOT ISSUE" IS NOW WHAT THE FOCUS is moving too...

Voting Laws were abused... Late ballots, fake registrations, 'the dead,' ghost mail in ballot.... -and intentionally and illegally manipulated ballots - even poll workers admitting they tossed Trump votes because they hate him so much...

I think this flipped states.... Avery Bierce Bullet2354 a day ago

Of course, support for Biden isn't in issue. Exasperation with Trump is clearly the issue.
Independents don't generally support Trump this year.
I don't think many Bernie people would vote for Trump. That doesn't make much sense.
Yes, clearly Trump wants lawyers to argue about ballots being illegal. I guess he thinks they might be able to show enough ballots were illegal, and that most of the illegal ballots were for Biden. Ball is in their court on that, I guess. But in court, Trump won't be able to argue in the form of tweets that say "we've been hearing about so much fraud." Time to put up.

ReplyShare › − Avatar Bullet2354 Avery Bierce 20 hours ago

Court challenges are coming.... that is for sure...
Supreme Court already has the PA rulings and is looking at that.

I do think overall Election Integrity has been compromised... at almost every level and every step of the process. Ghost ballots sent out, Mail in ballots sold for cash, 'the dead,' Fake Ids', out of state voters voting multiple times, dates and signatures altered, ballots trashed by partisan poll workers, ballots altered, software 'errors' (that seem to favor one party about 100% of the time) ...

It is too much.... I have seen a few poll workers arrested for trying to slide multiple votes through a machine - and I though 'well just few votes won't matter' - but now... the Trust is broken...

If anything good can come of all this - I hope the "Voting Process" is overhauled 100%... maybe even to the level of BlockChain.... Bullet2354 Mike a day ago

My concern is not the actual count... however.

My concern is that Voter Laws were abused... significantly.

illegal votes counted, illegal processes used - a really corrupted vote system..... The Law was not followed.

2016 MI was bad enough with the failed RECOUNT.... Detroit has always had massive counting errors, bribery scandals, constant inconsistencies, pay to vote schemes, 'walking around money' - and the STATE has know this for 60 years! ... yet never moved to fix it. I think it has grown 'out of control' in 2020.

I used to 'give a little' for a few fraudulent votes here or there.... a few Dead people get a ballot... a few data base errors.

This year - the Fraud has crossed the line.

I don't trust the count. - VOTE INTEGRITY HAS COLLAPSED.

[Nov 09, 2020] We have no election integrity at this point. None. It's gone

If so that is clearly constitutional crisis
Nov 09, 2020 | www.breitbart.com
tilda 7 hours ago

This article means there's no paper ballot for recounts and the voter can't verify his ballot. This is not good, and NO ONE should be using a system where the voter cannot verify his own choices and that his vote was counted. These issues must be figured out for now and future elections, even if some states have to throw out the results and vote all over again.

9 ReplyShare › Avatar Desert cowboy 8 hours ago

Unless you are too dumb to realize it the American public has witnessed the most rigged election in American history....If Biden would have drawn anywhere nearly the crowds that Trump did at his rallies I would say maybe it's legit but Biden couldn't draw more than a dozen people....What's wrong with this picture?

9 ReplyShare › Avatar ShawnNJ ✓Swamp Drainer Desert cowboy 7 hours ago

Absolutely!

8 ReplyShare › − Avatar Conservative Think Tank 9 hours ago

We have no election integrity at this point. None. It's gone.

[Nov 08, 2020] AuditTheVote movement emerged

Locally, hundreds took to the streets in places like the South Side and Squirrel Hill once the news broke. A large crowd marched to the City-County Building, causing rolling road closures and disrupting public transit.
Nov 08, 2020 | #ThePersistence @ScottPresler Nov 7
Massive turnout of Americans demanding an #AuditTheVote at the Harrisburg Capitol Building!

[Nov 08, 2020] Consider what a 2012 New York Times piece on mail-in ballots had to say

Nov 08, 2020 | www.nytimes.com

Election administrators have a shorthand name for a central weakness of voting by mail. They call it granny farming.

"The problem," said Murray A. Greenberg, a former county attorney in Miami, "is really with the collection of absentee ballots at the senior citizen centers." In Florida, people affiliated with political campaigns "help people vote absentee," he said. "And help is in quotation marks."

Voters in nursing homes can be subjected to subtle pressure, outright intimidation or fraud. The secrecy of their voting is easily compromised. And their ballots can be intercepted both coming and going.

The problem is not limited to the elderly, of course. Absentee ballots also make it much easier to buy and sell votes. In recent years, courts have invalidated mayoral elections in Illinois and Indiana because of fraudulent absentee ballots.

[Nov 08, 2020] Some evidence of potential fraud emerges

Nov 08, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Guest Evert Meager a day ago

• 97,000 Biden voters in Georgia who did not vote for Ossoff (or Perdue). They just voted for Biden, did not vote for a senator. (Did not have enough time overnight to fill in the bubbles for Ossoff?) Same phenomenon in Michigan.
• 4 am data dumps of 100,000 votes, all for Biden. That happened in several states, all the same time. They stop counting for the night. Poll watchers go home. But then, actually, they were counting all night after all. Counting ballots that were delivered after the poll watchers left.
• 27,000 vote data dump, 100% for Biden. Statistically impossible. Called a "correction."
• Ca. 90% turnout in Wisconsin. Did 900,000 new voters do same-day registration in Wisconsin?
• Vicious behavior by Wayne County and Philadelphia vote counting crews--poll watchers were not allowed in, or kept too far away to see what was going on.
• Polling stations in R districts of Philly kept closed until 10 am on election day.
• Several hundred affidavits from whistleblowers have been collected but not released yet.
• USPS employees told to backdate postal marks on mail-in ballots to election day. On video.

BanBait 2 days ago

Greater than 100% turnout in multiple Milwaukee precincts, massive vote dumps for Biden with zero for Trump, but everything is just peachy. This election is obviously, blatantly, in-our-face corrupt and illegitimate and if it is allowed to stand, this Republic is finished. Beijing Biden will throw open the borders, tens of millions of illegals would flood in and it's Game Over. There would never be a fair national election ever again and there sure as hell would NEVER be another conservative president. But yes, do continue to lecture us peasants about "civility" and "muh norms". Maybe the traitors at the Lincoln Project could write a guest editorial to get our minds right.

Mark Taylor Slenderman2008 2 days ago

Right but you spent three years looking for Russians under your bed that stole the election.
Backdated ballots
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Dead voters
https://thefederalist.com/2...

https://www.breitbart.com/p...

100% of precincts reported. Then more votes come in.
https://www.thegatewaypundi...

Vote counter filling out ballots and stamping them.
https://gab.com/CasimirTG/p...

Software that switched Republican votes to democrat was used in 30 states.

Observer not allowed near ballots.

[Nov 08, 2020] The Nevada GOP just sent a criminal referral to the Attorney General, referencing 3,062 documented cases of potential voter fraud discovered thus far, with that number "expected to grow substantially."

Nov 08, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

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LgVt 2 days ago

Here's something that's not an innuendo: The Nevada GOP just sent a criminal referral to the Attorney General, referencing 3,062 documented cases of potential voter fraud discovered thus far, with that number "expected to grow substantially."

Certain trolls in these parts have been demanding evidence of fraud, in the obvious expectation that said evidence will never come. As the method the Nevada GOP used--cross-referencing voter names/addresses against the National Change of Address database, to identify voters who apparently cast fraudulent ballots in Nevada after moving out of state--is easily replicable elsewhere, this is likely to be merely the first domino.

Annie from Alaska LgVt a day ago

James O'Keefe has an on-the-record postal worker witnessing his supervisor instructing people to post-date ballots.

There may have been backdating of late ballots in Detroit https://t.co/e894fQdAl8

GOP Party Chairperson Ronna McDaniel collected >100 affidavits from poll employees whistle-blowing on fraud in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

6000 votes in Michigan flipped in 1 county by electronic voting software, software that's used in 47 counties

Aetius LgVt 11 hours ago

We're trolls because we demand evidence instead of blindly accepting claims made by the losers? Voter fraud is a concern for all Americans. If Trump was cheated he should prove it in court. But he can't, and he won't. If he does, I'll admit I'm wrong and accept the results. I'm sure there were some isolated instances, but it won't change the outcome of the election. Y'all are going so crazy because your paranoid delusions are finally hitting the wall of reality. It's not trolling to want more than a bunch of innuendo and baseless claims. I mean you're all now saying even fox is biased against him. Where does it end? Every world leader and major news organization throughout the world thinks he won. Only the Russians have been pushing it's a fraud. Doesn't that say enough? Could it be possible you're being manipulated, not those libs you hate?

EliteCommInc. 2 days ago

" But coming on the heels of decades of bipartisan bloodsport, from impeachment to birtherism to Russiagate and back again, baseless delegitimization of election results is dangerous."

I m not sure who is calling the election issue a coup. But you have missed one or two in your comments and they had nothing to with this election. Election fraud is generally hard to prove, especially a large bucket of votes or perhaps buckets is a better word.

You remind me of the kid who was struck in head more than a few wild pitches and when the fifth hit he spoke up and was boo'd off the field for whining. It is not this election issue. It has been a sting of peculiar and incomprehensible behaviors by the democrats and liberals to unseat the current executive and malign anyone who voted for him. And in all ways the election scenario plays out as so many issues with liberals and democrats in general. This business of changing the rules because of COVID

And I am ever astonished given the performance of the democrats and their liberal supporters that were in the race at all. At every turn save one they were turned back repeatedly and decidedly. And then enduring their campaign . I am not on the economic great band wagon, but reports were until the COVID matter, people were actually getting back to work and in some areas among middle and lower incomes, the wages increased. For the first time in quite some time, an executive was actually challenging how the US was spending its resources regarding the international policy. That it ruffled the feathers of some or many in the international community made sense. After all the US had been doing their bidding since the end of the WWII and the cold war (a retraction more than an end).
Not a single prediction made by the democrats and those "republicans" that opposed him came to the fore -- they were wrong on every front except one: it would ruffle the feathers of our international partners to ask them to do more pay more or both on the question of security. One of the most astute presidents the US ever had on foreign policy managed to develop relations with the Russians and the Chinese and no one sought to embroil him in intrigues or Russian or Chinese spying. Though interestingly enough they had temper tantrums during his admin and went after him, his wife (though they did leave his dogs and his daughters alone). oddly enough as with the current executive, some member of the FBI funneled incorrect information in haze of accusations, that became Watergate. And as it turns out his crime, not ordering a break-in, but attempting to protect his presidency, under seige the his entire tenure. Though its nice to recall that these same children destroyed President Johnson's tenure as well.

These are the same individuals who made their bones on Vietnam and got it completely backwards in every way oddly enough these are the same architects of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. But unlike Pres Johnson one of their own and like the current executive, President Nixon beat them repeatedly. - he even trounced them at their environmental assail.

While more sophisticated than the 1970's. The same tactics of rhetoric and control are in play. Antagonize, change the rules, instigate fights, make false accusations, intimidate and threaten -- it the 1973 APA conference on a larger scale.

It's not one election, it's a boat load of wild pitches .

[Nov 08, 2020] Who pushed to states election voting machines instead of paper ballots?

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Deap , 07 November 2020 at 11:53 PM

From Townhall: ........"One of the most interesting aspects of this, as pointed out by NOQ Report, is that Dominion Voting Systems has machines in more than one-third of the United States. They never had a lobbyist in Washington, D.C., until last year when they hired Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck, a lobbying firm. One of the account's main supervisors is Nadeam Elshami, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA) former chief of staff.

Whether or not this was a glitch should be investigated, especially when it comes down to swing states. Areas in which this system was used should have a hand recount so voters know their votes were tabulated correctly. A glitch in one county is probable. A glitch in multiple counties in multiple states sounds like it could potentially be a bigger systemic problem. ......."

Reason this caught my eye is this law firm has a branch in my little Calif town, far from DC or LA or SF or Sacramento. Why are they here?

Deap , 08 November 2020 at 12:04 AM


Reminder from RedState, who the Dems started out with and who they actually ended up with:

Tom Steyer, Deval Patrick, Andrew Yang, Marianne Williamson, Elizabeth Warren, Eric Swalwell, Joe Sestak, Bernie Sanders, Tim Ryan, Beto O'Rourke, Wayne Messam, Jay Inslee, Kamala Harris, Tulsi Gabbard, John Hickenlooper, *** Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, Mike Gravel, John Delaney, Julián Castro, Pete Buttigieg, Steve Bullock, Cory Booker, Joe Biden, Bill de Blasio, Michael Bennet, and Michael Bloomberg

***Hickenlooper now also associated with the DC lobbying Law Firm - Brownstein, Farber, Hyatt and Schreck, which is now also linked to the widespread use of certain voting data machines.

What is that line about "no coincidences in politics"?

Deap , 08 November 2020 at 01:03 AM

I am waiting to see what Crowdstrike has to say about computer voting glitches. After they don't investigate the actual machines.

Seamus Padraig , 08 November 2020 at 06:10 AM
The latest coup attempt is a mixture of audacity and sloppiness.

That latter part, the sloppiness, is what bothers me. It's almost as if they wanted us to know. I mean, they coulda just stolen the election the usual way, with the Diebold machines. As long as the popular vote count difference is within the margin of error, Diebold could change the exact count at the touch of a button--and nobody would ever know!

So why this blatant, in-your-face fraud instead of the low-key approach? Well, I can think of only two possible explanations:

1.) Trump's margin of victory in these states was so big that is was outside the margin of error, and the Democrats' internal polling told them that long before election day (even as their media continued to push the bogus external polls on us). Or ...
2.) They actually do want us to notice the fraud. It's a deliberate provocation on their part, and they're hoping we do something dumb in response so that they can declare all of us deplorables to be 'terrorists'.

Absent more evidence, right now I'm leaning towards explanation #2.

[Nov 08, 2020] There are simply too many irregularities in this election for me to trust the results

Notable quotes:
"... Trump won Michigan by only 11,000 votes, yet Michigan was CALLED FOR TRUMP ON ELECTION NIGHT. Trump won Wisconsin by only 23,000 votes, yet Wisconsin was CALLED FOR TRUMP ON ELECTION NIGHT. Trump won Pennsylvania by only 45,000 votes, yet Pennsylvania was CALLED FOR TRUMP ON ELECTION NIGHT. ..."
"... Republicans have been nearly AWOL in terms of getting control of election security, other than fighting Democrats tooth and nail over voter ID. ..."
"... If Trump lost the election – massive vote fraud operation not withstanding – it's his own damned fault. If one is deluded enough to believe the rigged system in the banana-republic which has taken the name of the USA is somehow legitimate, the loss is entirely thanks his adopting Kushner's wormtongue strategy – one guaranteed to lose. ..."
"... There is simply no way Biden got that many votes .90/100% turnouts in districts where the norm is 65% 100% of mail ins going to Biden ..more votes than registered voters ..more votes than Obama ..pathetic campaign ..Biden sat in the basement because he knew the fix was in. ..."
"... Yes, Kushner is a little cunt and he's taken a lot of heat. But Trump isn't stupid ..he chose to suck up to non-whites and neglect his white base. I agree with that totally but I do not think that explains his "loss" because I do not think he actually lost ..I think the numbers are sheer bullshit. Trump won the election and they are trying to steal it. ..."
"... Just because they declared Trump was a Russian agent, didn't make him a traitor to his country or a Russian agent. Mueller later admits he had ZERO evidence. Over three years of hysteria for nothing. ..."
"... Similarly, just because the MSM declares Biden the winner doesn't mean he is. He's probably not and you just need to avoid making baseless pronouncements of your own. Wait and give justice a chance to work. There's a long time between now and January 20th. ..."
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GoodTwin , says: November 8, 2020 at 2:31 am GMT • 20.3 hours ago

There are simply too many irregularities in this election for me to trust the results. Mail-in voting is inherently fraud prone and has been something the Dems in PA, MI, and elsewhere have been seeking and using to steal elections for many years. I will have to see quite a bit more analysis of the data before I accept this new system of voting that requires me to trust the moral rectitude of thousands of Black women in the Dem machine, fueled by an infusion of 350 million thanks to Zukerberg a couple of months ago. This election stinks.

prime noticer , says: November 8, 2020 at 2:32 am GMT • 20.3 hours ago

it's possible Trump simply lost a close election because he ran a bad campaign. that's totally believable, going into election day. indeed, that's what i called for, for about 2 years out. for the Democrat to comfortably win. but that's not believable after what happened on election day.

in 2016 this happened:

Trump won Michigan by only 11,000 votes, yet Michigan was CALLED FOR TRUMP ON ELECTION NIGHT. Trump won Wisconsin by only 23,000 votes, yet Wisconsin was CALLED FOR TRUMP ON ELECTION NIGHT. Trump won Pennsylvania by only 45,000 votes, yet Pennsylvania was CALLED FOR TRUMP ON ELECTION NIGHT.

something, ahem, rather different happened on election day in 2020. things that have never happened in 200 years of voting.

Republicans have been nearly AWOL in terms of getting control of election security, other than fighting Democrats tooth and nail over voter ID. they do put up some of a fight there. on other election stuff, they're comfortable losing gracefully, over and over. even US Supreme Court justices will allow the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which has been acting illegally for a while now since it accrued a Democrat majority, to do stuff like count ballots 3 days after election day.

a lot of DC Republicans also want Trump gone, so they won't even say anything. but we'll see what happens in Georgia later, because Democrats are going to use the same tactics on McConnell's guys.

Exalted Cyclops , says: November 8, 2020 at 2:56 am GMT • 19.9 hours ago

If Trump lost the election – massive vote fraud operation not withstanding – it's his own damned fault. If one is deluded enough to believe the rigged system in the banana-republic which has taken the name of the USA is somehow legitimate, the loss is entirely thanks his adopting Kushner's wormtongue strategy – one guaranteed to lose.

BG has covered this extensively on his own website. Though he at least did not launch a major war with either China, Russia or Iran, Trump has spent much of his first term fellating Jewish donors and pandering to negroes while tossing the whites who put him over the top in 2016 under the Church of Woke's speeding bus. Tossing the largest segment of your voter base under the bus – be it the Church of Woke's anti-racist one or Goldman-Sachs Mnunchin's usury-racketeering model – is not a winning strategy. Many white men stayed home or voted for the Alzheimers-Murikan. He should have followed Steve Sailer's strategy instead of his me-too denunciations of "white supremacy" (38 times!).

As for the fraud, the evidence is quite overwhelming that there has indeed been an unprecedented level of fraud. This has been a trend building for some time. There was also massive vote fraud in 2018, even in BG's home state of Alabama where the D-jerseys literally bused in voters from out of state to put Doug Jones in the senate. The fraud's expansion is also thanks Trump's own fecklessness. Instead of spending his days on Twitter, he could have been doing something to clean up the ongoing criminal enterprises in the DOJ, FBI and every other federal agency. Instead, he hired one swamp-creature after another to "drain the swamp". His latest AG, William Barr, was born, raised and elevated in the swamp – truly a creature 'of the swamp, by the swamp, and for the swamp'. According the Barr (who did pro-bono legal work for FBI assassin Lon Horiuchi), Epstein hanged himself – something even most of the clueless normies doubt.

Yet the MAGA faithful believe that this greasy swamp monster is somehow going to take the drastic action to destroy the swamp because of some secret 666-D chess plan with NSA spooks. I wonder what the "plan" will be if Biden is sworn in on January 20? Will they be tired of "winning" by then?

As for the q-anon theory, yes the evidence is significant that pedophiles dominate the ruling oligarchy. This is not that much of a surprise if one takes some time to read up on Satanism and the practices thereof, not to mention the Bible. Christ rejected Satan's offer of world dominion but there have been many men and women who've taken it since his rejection.

It makes little difference what branch of Satanism is in play, be it Kang Jared and Queen Esther's Chabad Talmudism or the various Masonic flavors or even flat-out Church of Satan. Crowley provided the shortest summary: "Do what thou wilt." Pedo activity is the highest form of Satanic worship and does seem to be the required ticket to be elevated to great levels of wealth and power. (Did Trump take the ticket himself?)

So if Biden is sworn in on January 20 by Roberts (on the Lolita express passenger list) he will be the next pedophile to preside over the banana-republic (it's very unlikely he's the first). There are many others worldwide of course, with even a Pedo-Pope now ruling over the sad wreck of Catholicism. (This was inevitable with the apostasy of Vatican II).

Solzhenitsyn's 'old ones' were correct: When the question was asked "Why has all of this (disaster) happened?" the old ones would answer "Men have forgotten God, that's why all of this has happened". Like the USSR, the Rotten Banana Empire will one day collapse under the weight of its own evil and corruption. Today, when the (((fake news))), designated the senile old pedophile as its president-elect, happens to be the 103rd anniversary of the disaster which Solzhenitsyn referred to. Given his decrepit state, Biden will likely be removed soon after assuming office. The Hindoo-Dindoo is the one who the overlords want to stamp the Orwellian boot onto the white man's face forever. She'll do it gladly too.

Anon [226] Disclaimer , says: November 8, 2020 at 2:56 am GMT • 19.9 hours ago

I think at least part of the decline in white male support this time around is simple reversion to the mean.

In 2016, Trump ran against Hillary, who is unique in being almost universally disliked or loathed by white men. Anyone who grew up or lived through the 90s remembers how she became a national figure and household name during that decade and an entire industry on talk radio and other media based on hating her developed. And not just right wingers and conservatives, but centrist and left leaning white men generally disliked or loathed her. White men can't stand Hillary.

This time around, without Hillary, at least some of the white male vote reverted back.

Wally , says: November 8, 2020 at 5:32 am GMT • 17.3 hours ago
@GoodTwin ave necessarily made any other supposedly derived election numbers fraudulent.

In 30 states, a computer system known to be 'defective' is tallying votes :

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/in_30_states_a_computer_system_known_to_be_defective_is_tallying_votes.html

Rundown of every single election fraud red flag : https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/05/the-2020-election-fuckery-is-afoot/

Robert Dolan , says: November 8, 2020 at 5:41 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago

Massive fraud. The election was not legitimate. And I had given up on Trump long ago for his failures on immigration .. still, I felt he'd be better than Biden so I voted for him.

There is simply no way Biden got that many votes .90/100% turnouts in districts where the norm is 65% 100% of mail ins going to Biden ..more votes than registered voters ..more votes than Obama ..pathetic campaign ..Biden sat in the basement because he knew the fix was in.

Trump had huge rallies and massive support even if he did lose a few whites for pandering to non-whites.

He pissed me off for sure but I still voted for him because Biden/Harris are scum.

There are far too many red flags and irregularities to believe the election was fair. The color revolution theory makes sense to me. The jews saw Trump as an autocrat .faked polls to favor Biden ..prepared their army of Antifa/BLM scum to riot ..sent out a zillion mail in ballots that have no verification readied an army of lawyers to fight, etc.etc.etc.

Yes, Kushner is a little cunt and he's taken a lot of heat. But Trump isn't stupid ..he chose to suck up to non-whites and neglect his white base. I agree with that totally but I do not think that explains his "loss" because I do not think he actually lost ..I think the numbers are sheer bullshit. Trump won the election and they are trying to steal it.

A Competent Physicist , says: November 8, 2020 at 6:01 am GMT • 16.8 hours ago

Everything you say is still far too early to call. What does it mean that the MSM declared themselves the official appointed people to declare the winner of an election? NOTHING. That's right. Just because they say they can, doesn't mean they can. Why does everyone fall for this illusion? The law is the law. Every legal ballot will be counted and the real winner will prevail. If there's vote fraud it will be uncovered. Twitter, MSNBC, CNN etc. can't declare a winner and make it binding. They can mislead their viewers, make people very very upset if things are ultimately different than they expected but they have NO LEGAL AUTHORITY. Quite honestly, it's pretty obvious there was significant fraud. Give the law a chance to work.

Just because they declared Trump was a Russian agent, didn't make him a traitor to his country or a Russian agent. Mueller later admits he had ZERO evidence. Over three years of hysteria for nothing.

Similarly, just because the MSM declares Biden the winner doesn't mean he is. He's probably not and you just need to avoid making baseless pronouncements of your own. Wait and give justice a chance to work. There's a long time between now and January 20th.

Just remember people making up a hoax and lying doesn't overturn reality. Fake votes don't win elections, only real votes. Someone is going to get the record straight like Mueller did and people will be pissed, It's their problem, not ours.

[Nov 08, 2020] Election Summary Report for Gwinnet County, Georgia.

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Flubber , says: November 8, 2020 at 6:57 am GMT • 15.8 hours ago

Election Summary Report for Gwinnet County, Georgia.
Total Population: 936,250
Total Registered Voters: 581,467
Voter Participation: 408,268 (70.21%)
Ballots Cast?

811,836.

1.36 ballots per registered voter.
1.99 ballots per participating voter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/slavtrapgod/status/1325301932408229889

[Nov 08, 2020] This Election was a perfect example of what America has become. A dog eat dog society that has Zero Class , and even less morals with no honor left anywhere

Side effect of neoliberalislization?
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GMC , says: November 8, 2020 at 7:22 am GMT • 15.4 hours ago

This Election was a perfect example of what America has become. A dog eat dog society that has Zero Class , and even less morals with No honor left – anywhere. Dissect it anyway you wish – It's going to be a very very hard lesson to learn from – that is If there's anybody left – to teach or comprehend.

[Nov 08, 2020] Last election, the left screamed blue murder that every vote for Trump came straight from Putin's mouse click, beginning the full delegitimisation of the already shoddy voting process

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Ilya G Poimandres , says: November 8, 2020 at 6:51 am GMT • 15.9 hours ago

It led to the Russiagate coup, delegitimising the peaceful hand over of power. For 3 years the left screamed 2016 was rigged, with 0 verifiable evidence.

[Nov 08, 2020] Patty from 100% Fed Up Talks About Her Shocking Experience As a Poll Watcher at Detroit's TCF Center On Wednesday following the Election by Jim Hoft

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Patty from 100% Fed Up was called down to the TCF Center in Detroit, Michigan on Wednesday morning after the election.

Patty has been a poll challenger for nine years in the Detroit area.
She can assure you that voter fraud is alive and well in Michigan.

Patty told The Gateway Pundit she could not believe what she was witnessing at the center that day. Patty was there for hours to witness the lawlessness of the Democrat operatives as they went to work to steal the election in Michigan.

Democrats were STUNNED on Election night by the record setting numbers of President Donald Trump. They had to work fast in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina and Wisconsin. So they went to work manufacturing ballots.

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Patty told the 100% Fed Up audience, "Last night, after watching the media, tech giants, Democrats, and back-stabbing Republicans attempt to convince Americans that voter fraud is a myth, and that mass voter fraud is simply not a thing, I decided to go live on our 100 Percent Fed Up Facebook page and explain what I saw or didn't see, thanks to Democrat operatives and Detroit election workers, at the TCF Center with my own two eyes."

Here is Patty's full video on her day at the TCF Center in Michigan.
This lawlessness cannot stand. If Americans value their freedoms they better wake up and speak out now.

There are no second chances when one corrupt party is allowed to steal elections.

[Nov 08, 2020] Pennsylvania Election 2020 LIVE UPDATES

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UPDATE 3:58 p.m.: Pennsylvania GOP Congressional members have issued a letter to Gov. Wolf, Attorney General Josh Shapiro and Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar:

"Dear Governor Wolf, Attorney General Shapiro, and Secretary Boockvar:

As Members of the Pennsylvania Congressional Delegation, we greatly understand that when a legislative body creates law, the duty of an administration is to faithfully execute these laws. However, we are deeply concerned with how the Commonwealth has handled the general election.

From last minute guidance provided to the counties on the eve of the election, to the Attorney General playing dual roles as a political candidate and legal arbiter with a vested personal interest, to volunteer legal observers being prevented from having access to vote counting locations, we believe these conflicts and irregularities have greatly eroded public trust in the Commonwealth's electoral system.

The citizens of the Commonwealth do not just expect free and fair elections, they deserve free and fair elections.

We believe that every legal vote should be counted, and it is compulsory for the Secretary of the Commonwealth to discount any votes that do not meet the letter of the law. On Friday, November 6, United States Supreme Court Justice Alito issued a temporary order requiring election officials to segregate ballots received after 8 p.m. on election day. While Secretary Boockvar has indicated this has already been occurring in Pennsylvania's 67 counties, there has been little evidence to support these statements.

This uncertainty follows guidance issued to the counties on the eve of the election instructing them to disclose to party operatives individual information associated with rejected mail-in ballots, in an attempt to have corrections made, which is in direct conflict with Pennsylvania election law. We believe that in order to faithfully execute the duties of the office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth it is incumbent upon Secretary Boockvar to follow the law.

Statements made by Pennsylvania's Attorney General, including social media posts calling the outcome of the election, prior to the tabulation of a single vote are troubling and highlight the Attorney General's inability to maintain impartiality and to separate his sworn duties from his political desires. We believe that due to this conflict, the Attorney General must recuse himself from all future election proceedings and appoint an impartial designee moving forward.

As many of these issues will now be addressed by the United States Supreme Court, we remain concerned about the integrity of the election and continued attempts by the administration and its officials to put their thumbs on the scale in pursuit of what they believe should be a preordained outcome. These actions continue to chip away at the foundation of our representational democracy and challenges the citizens of Pennsylvania's faith in their government. We implore you to put politics aside and provide these requests all due consideration."

UPDATE 3:40 p.m.: Representative Mike Kelly has issued a statement following the news of media outlets declaring the election in favor of Joe Biden.

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President Trump released the following statement:

"We all know why Joe Biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner, and why his media allies are trying so hard to help him: they don't want the truth to be exposed. The simple fact is this election is far from over. Joe Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor. In Pennsylvania, for example, our legal observers were not permitted meaningful access to watch the counting process. Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media.

"Beginning Monday, our campaign will start prosecuting our case in court to ensure election laws are fully upheld and the rightful winner is seated. The American People are entitled to an honest election: that means counting all legal ballots, and not counting any illegal ballots. This is the only way to ensure the public has full confidence in our election. It remains shocking that the Biden campaign refuses to agree with this basic principle and wants ballots counted even if they are fraudulent, manufactured, or cast by ineligible or deceased voters. Only a party engaged in wrongdoing would unlawfully keep observers out of the count room – and then fight in court to block their access.

"So what is Biden hiding? I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve and that Democracy demands."

UPDATE 5:17 p.m.: Rep. Bob Brooks (R-Allegheny/Westmoreland) sent Channel 11 a statement Friday:

"Our electoral process must be protected to ensure that every vote legally cast is counted. Pennsylvania's mail-in ballot system is plagued with problems. Allegheny County disqualified 22 ballots because those people were declared deceased. I am pleased with how our Westmoreland and Allegheny county poll workers handled this very difficult process.

Today, Pennsylvania Speaker of the House Bryan Cutler (R-Lancaster) sent a letter to Gov. Tom Wolf requesting a full audit be completed before the certification of any results. In the letter Cutler cites actions taken by the state Supreme Court and the Department of State that have created confusion for county election officials, and actions believed to be in violation of the federal Constitution.

"There were an unprecedented number of provisional ballots in this year's election. My office has been inundated with constituents frustrated with how our state has handled the process as the counting of ballots is continuing, especially in Philadelphia. My House Republican colleagues and I are investigating their practices.

"In-person voters were turned away and told they had to use the mail-in system. Let's face it, mail-in ballots are less secure. The focus of this election was on the mail-in ballots; however, millions was spent on voting machines and security to enhance the safest election possible.

"I am happy to report that all House Republican incumbents in the southwest region of the state are leading in their respective races. Also, three new Republican House legislators in the region and two new Senate Republicans are leading in their races.

"The Commonwealth's Democratic Supreme Court has exterminated the integrity of our election with its ruling to allow mail-in ballots to be counted up to three days after election day. Pennsylvanians from every political party should have the full confidence that the final vote tally reflects the will of the voters. I will do everything in my power to continue to fight for a fair vote count in Pennsylvania where every legal ballot is counted in a transparent manner."

UPDATE 2:10 p.m. : A state court has ordered provisional ballots cast at the polls on Election Day in Pennsylvania by voters who submitted mail-in ballots that were rejected be segregated.

Also, President Trump has issued a statement:

"We believe the American people deserve to have full transparency into all vote counting and election certification, and that this is no longer about any single election. This is about the integrity of our entire election process. From the beginning we have said that all legal ballots must be counted and all illegal ballots should not be counted, yet we have met resistance to this basic principle by Democrats at every turn. We will pursue this process through every aspect of the law to guarantee that the American people have confidence in our government. I will never give up fighting for you and our nation."

UPDATE 5:20 a.m.: With three lawsuits filed in Pennsylvania by the GOP, here is a recap of what they are:

[Nov 08, 2020] Giuliani says Philadelphia Democrats voted foe biden from the grave

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...the Trump campaign has alleged that droves of dead people voted in Philadelphia, and that staff there illegally counted late-arriving mail ballots.

Giuliani called the "Philadelphia Democrat machine" "brazen," and claimed that the late heavyweight boxer Joe Frazier and actor Will Smith's grandfather both voted in previous elections in the city after their deaths.

"I bet Biden dominated this group," he tweeted. "We will find out."

[Nov 08, 2020] Exit pools contradict the ecelction results

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Noirette , Nov 8 2020 17:35 utc | 40

'Exit polls' are not trustworthy, viable, etc. is a meme running about. In fact exit polls are good; of course all polls are subject to some margin of error.

Newsweek published the results of the Edison exit poll*:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-increases-share-black-hispanic-vote-1544698

The fact that Trump made gains amongst Black, Hisp. etc can be read all over the MSM, twitter, blogs, with Dems sometimes saying 'that can't be right!' - minorities are expected to vote Dem - a white racist can't 'make gains.' (One can increase votes in one category and still lose the / an election.)

Imho particularly many Hispanics are attached to law and order (see "Defund the Police") and many established immigrants are against uncontrolled immigration. I also suspect that quite a few Blacks, probably specially women strongly disaprove of Antifa - etc. Much more could be said, at least some Blacks see through the Dem. condescension and Obama fakery. Important factor: the economy, which was the no. 1 concern of Trump voters (see Pew polls, 80% about, posted previous), which pre-covid did put a little more money into many poorer pockets. Chart at link, the visible uptick is small but steady.

Using the exit poll to 'extrapolate' the overall result:

Ethnicity || voted for DT according to poll || % of electorate || equals * out of 100 voters

White 57% . 67% . 39.18
Black 12% . 13% . 1.56
Asian 31% . 4% . 1.24
Hisp 32% . 13% . 4.16
Other 40% 3% 1.2

Total = 46.35

This makes sense: a 'good, fair' majority of whites voted for DT. A small minory of blacks did so. Just under a third of Asians and Hispanics voted for DT, and 'other' did so somewhat under half.

If we award all the other votes to Biden, that makes 53.75 for JB.

Tricky. How many votes were for for 3rd party candidates ? Vox estimates 2% 3rd cand. 2020. Jill Stein got 1% plus, Gary Johnson 3.28% in the past. Maybe 3% is a good guess. Of course on the intertubes ppl saying they voted 3rd cand. proliferate - you'd think it was 15%! Certainly there were many other candidates.

Then, the non conforming ballots, mistakes, spoiled / blank ones, etc. About 2% is standard in the EU so let's say (conservatively) 5% NOT for DT or JB. With 5%, Total:

46.35 For DT
5.00 for 3rd party, write-ins, invalid
51.35 accounted for

48.65 for JB is the remainder, he is the winner.

If 10% of ballots were for 3rd party / other fanciful / rejected, DT got 46% and JB 44%, DT win.

Tight race, with many imponderables. Extrapolating from that one exit poll.

third parties 2020 wiki

https://bit.ly/357oOyX

household income

https://bit.ly/2GF9eB8

ethnic compo of electorate

https://pewrsr.ch/3n5wOqa

*15,590 voters outside polling stations, early voting sites, and over the phone. The number is large enough. *poll distinguishes Latino/Hispanic but that is the same category in census.


[Nov 08, 2020] Your reporting that 100,000 votes arrived on a single flash drive, with all votes for Biden, is perhaps an effort at hyperbole. It appears to also to be quite incorrect.

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Michael Cohen , Nov 8 2020 14:45 utc | 11

Your reporting that 100,000 votes arrived on a single flash drive, with all votes for Biden, is perhaps an effort at hyperbole. It appears to also to be quite incorrect. I refer you to this reporting by Jeramey Jannene, a Milwaukee journalist reporter, https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/11/04/absentee-ballots-give-biden-lead-in-wisconsin/ Mr. Jannene reports the story quite differently. Nothing sinister seems to have occurred. Just the counting of mailed-in ballots, which could not by law begin until after the walk-in polls were all closed.


Richard Steven Hack , Nov 8 2020 17:17 utc | 35

"That seems to have happened in Wisconsin, where over 100,000 Biden votes appeared seemingly out of nowhere on a flash drive delivered by hand from a Democratic district. "

Bullshit. So b appears to have been suckered in by general cynicism (which he's welcome to since it's usually right) to believe an already debunked conspiracy theory.

Fact-checking the avalanche of Wisconsin election misinformation


CLAIM: "Wisconsin took a break, and when they returned, Biden coincidentally came back ahead by 100k."

This is one of several viral claims that key states took a break from counting in some form on election night.

And it's simply not true.

Election officials worked through the night in Wisconsin to tally the unprecedented numbers of mail-in ballots, which under state law they were not allowed to start counting until Election Day.

"Our municipal and county clerks have worked tirelessly throughout the night to make sure that every valid ballot is counted and reported accurately," Meagan Wolfe, the director of the state Elections Commission, said in a news conference the morning after the election.

The jump in Biden's tally came when the central count facility in Milwaukee completed its tally of the mail-in votes around 3:30 a.m., reporting those all at once. That led to a long-predicted spike in Biden's favor since Democrats are more likely to use vote absentee and Milwaukee is a heavily Democratic area.
CLAIM: Wisconsin "found" or "dumped" 100K ballots around 4 a.m. the morning after the election.

A chart from FiveThirtyEight.com showing how the Wisconsin race changed as results were reported sparked an array of unfounded conspiracy theories. It showed a sharp uptick in Democratic votes at around 4 a.m. on the morning after the election.

A conservative website trumpeted this as "Voter Fraud in Wisconsin." One widely shared Facebook post called it a "ballot dump," while another referred to the votes as being "found." President Donald Trump followed the same narrative when he tweeted about 9 a.m. that his lead in key states "started to magically disappear as surprise ballot dumps were counted."

These claims are ridiculous. This jump was expected and explainable.

"We are not finding ballots," Julietta Henry, director of elections for Milwaukee County, told PolitiFact National. "Ballots are being counted."

The increase in the chart simply shows when the City of Milwaukee reported its absentee ballot results. We knew well before the election that Democrats were much more likely than Republicans to vote absentee, that it takes longer to count such ballots, and that Milwaukee is a Democratic stronghold.

So, predictably, the mail-in results from that area led to a spike in the number of Democratic votes when the Associated Press added that count -- reported all at once -- to its vote tally about 3:30 a.m.

From 3:26 to 3:44 a.m. in the Associated Press election reporting stream, the vote for former Vice President Joe Biden jumped by 149,520 (9.2% of Biden's total votes) and Trump's vote jumped by 31,803 votes (2% of his total votes). Milwaukee County accounted for most but not all of that jump.

These votes were all reported together because Milwaukee and 38 other communities used a central count location. Other communities counted absentee ballots at the polling places, and reported them along with their in-person vote totals.

The city of Green Bay reported its results in bulk shortly after. It also had a central count facility for absentee ballots.

In other words, it's not fraud, that's just the time officials finished counting those legitimate votes.

Milwaukee County absentee ballots help flip Wisconsin red to blue Wednesday morning


At around 4 a.m., county election officials were able to confirm that 100% of the county's votes had been accounted for and recorded for this election.
That was also the moment Wisconsin flipped from red to blue.

After counting absentee ballots for nearly 20 hours, the data from the City of Milwaukee's Central Count Location was loaded onto flash drives and escorted, by police, to the Milwaukee County Courthouse. Executive Director of the City of Milwaukee Election Commission, Claire Woodall Vogg, walked in the front doors and handed the data over to the county clerks office. On those flash drives, 169,519 absentee ballots that were counted in the City of Milwaukee. Those votes were added to the rest of the votes in Milwaukee County, which brought the total number of ballots cast to 460,300.

The county reports an 83.67% voter turnout, which election officials said was "very good for a presidential election."

When all of the votes were counted, just over 69% of Milwaukee County's vote went to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Just over 29% of the vote was for President Trump and Vice President Pence.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 8 2020 15:06 utc | 16 - Legal challenges in PA (and elsewhere) - Recount in GA

Not going to happen. Reversing Georgia was always in the cards since the race was so close. But a recount there won't change the outcome of the election.

And Pennsylvania is not going to be flipped for Trump either. And every report on his legal options I've read indicate they go nowhere. That's why he's reportedly bitching about how his lawyers have failed him, as I reported in an earlier thread.

[Nov 08, 2020] Here's Every Trump Campaign Lawsuit Filed Since Election Day

Nov 08, 2020 | time.com

Pennsylvania

Multiple legal battles over the Keystone State's election laws were underway well before Election Day, but this week, the Trump campaign upped the ante. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro said in an interview that "there has been a lot of noise about litigation" but it has had "zero material impact" on the electoral process. "The count has continued. Legal votes are being tallied and soon the commonwealth will respect the will of the people and certify a vote," he said. Since Tuesday, the campaign has filed at least five separate lawsuits, with mixed results:

1. To compel Philadelphia election officials to stop counting ballots.

A federal judge dismissed the request.

2. To compel state election officials to allow Trump campaign officials closer observation of the counting process.

A state judge ruled in the campaign's favor , allowing campaign officials to observe the Philadelphia process from a six foot distance. Philadelphia election officials appealed the decision to the state Supreme Court, and the outcome of that appeal is pending.

Levitt says this ruling will likely affect the pace of the count, rather the outcome. "Imagine a gymnasium, with observers lining the walls: to let the observers get closer, they've got to move the count closer to the walls and not be counting in the center," he writes. Since people can no longer count in the center of the gym, "the count is going to move more slowly."

3. To compel Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and all 67 counties to impose an earlier date for voters to show proof of identification if it was not on their initial ballots.

Litigation is ongoing . The presiding judge ordered all counties to segregate ballots if the voters do not provide supplemental identification by Nov. 9. The ballots with supplemental identification provided after Nov. 9 cannot be counted until approved by the court.

Local Republicans filed a separate suit against Boockvar in state court, alleging she subverted state law when she issued guidance telling voters with deficiencies on their mail-in ballots to cast provisional ballots, and trying to prevent those provisional ballots from being counted. A state judge denied that request, but ordered officials to segregate provisional ballots from voters who submitted deficient mail-in ballots before election day.

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4. To compel the Montgomery County Board of Elections to stop counting mail-in-ballots

The campaign and Republican National Committee filed suit to halt the process of counting mail-in ballots in Montgomery County, one of the counties in suburban Philadelphia, alleging that the board of elections was counting 600 ballots that had not been placed in secrecy envelopes and was therefore not complying with requirements. Pennsylvania election data shows Montgomery county overwhelmingly voted for Biden.

The litigation is ongoing .

5. To intervene in an already existing dispute before the U.S. Supreme Court about whether ballots the state received after 8 p.m. on Election Day should count.

The litigation is ongoing . Some legal experts are skeptical SCOTUS will take the case, while others say that even if the Justice do, their ruling is unlikely to change the outcome of the Presidential election.

"I think that the court is going to be very hesitant to involve itself in the process in the most politically contentious context possible," says Michael Dimino, an election law expert at Widener University in Pennsylvania. Joshua Geltzer, executive director of the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at Georgetown Law, notes that the number of ballots that may fall in this category "appears increasingly irrelevant to the election outcome given the sheer vote numbers in that state regardless of those ballots."

The backstory: After Pennsylvania's Supreme Court extended the ballot receipt deadline to Nov. 6, state Republicans twice appealed the case to the U.S. Supreme Court. The first time they were unsuccessful, and the second time the court declined to expedite the decision before the election, but left open the possibility of hearing it afterwards. On Friday, Supreme Court Justice Alito, in response to a motion from Pennsylvania Republicans, ordered state election officials to segregate any ballots that arrived after election day. State officials had already ordered counties to segregate any ballots that arrived after Election Day, likely anticipating a future challenge.

Nevada

With Trump narrowly trailing Biden in the state, the Trump campaign has backed two cases to impact the counting of ballots:

1. To impose an injunction on the automated signature-verification machines used in Clark County as ballots continue to be counted.

A federal judge rejected the request on Nov. 6, ruling that federal judges should not be involved in state election administration and there is no evidence Clark County is doing anything unlawful.

The backstory: The Trump campaign held a press conference on Nov. 5 introducing Jill Stokey, a Nevada voter who claimed that when she tried to cast a ballot, she was told someone had already cast a mail-in ballot in her name. She alleged that the signature verification technology used in Clark County, the most populous county in the state, enabled someone to cast a mail-in ballot in her name. Her lawsuit asserted, without evidence, that "lax procedures for authenticating mail ballots" had resulted in "over 3,000 instances of ineligible individuals casting ballots."

Aaron Ford, Nevada's Attorney General, called Stokey's allegations "absurd." "While the Attorney General's Office normally does not comment on pending litigation, I feel compelled to dispel the misinformation being circulated to undermine the public's trust in our election," he said in a statement.

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2. To compel state election officials to allow the public closer observation at a Clark County ballot-counting facility.

The Trump campaign, Republican National Committee, and a plaintiff, Fred Krause, filed a lawsuit before election day in state court seeking to halt the counting process in Clark County until they could observe the process.

A district judge rejected the lawsuit, ruling they lacked standing to bring the claims and had no evidence to back up their arguments. The plaintiffs appealed to the state Supreme Court, which accepted the request to expedite the case, but denied the request for immediate relief. In a November 5 order, the State Supreme Court said the campaign and state Republicans had reached a settlement. According to local news, the settlement included expanding observation access, so that all counting tables would be visible to the public.

Michigan

While the Associated Press called Michigan for Biden on Nov. 4, the Trump campaign and Republicans have continued to file lawsuits attempting, unsuccessfully, to stop the state ballot count. The state has seen two cases since Election Day:

1. To halt the counting of absentee ballots, on the grounds that campaign officials had not been given access to observe the process as required by state law.

Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens denied the campaign's request on Nov. 6.

2. To halt the certification of election results in Detroit, Michigan's largest city and a Democratic stronghold.

Judge Timothy Kenny denied the motion for injunctive relief on Nov. 6, saying there was no evidence that oversight procedures had not been followed.

"Chief Judge Kenny's quick decision mirrors a decision yesterday by Court of Claims Judge Stephens – specifically, that, once again, the allegations are mere speculation," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel's Press Secretary Ryan Jarvi said in a statement. "The swift, clear and decisive opinion should put to rest the meritless claims that have been made in Michigan and other states around the country."

The backstory: The case was not brought by the Trump campaign, but by a conservative group, the Election Integrity Fund, and sought to stop election workers in Detroit from "curing" absentee ballots that could not initially be read by a machine, a normal part of the ballot counting process. The case alleged that the work had not always been overseen by election inspectors from both major political parties, and that certification should be delayed until inspectors could review the process.

Georgia

In Georgia, where the on-going count suggests an extremely tight race, the Trump campaign has filed one suit:

1. To disqualify about 53 ballots.

A poll watcher in Chatham County reported seeing a stack of late ballots that may have arrived after the 7 p.m. Election Day deadline get mixed in with ballots that had arrived on time.

A Superior Court judge in Chatham County rejected the suit on Nov. 5 after hearing testimony from county officials that the ballots had, in fact, arrived on time. "There is no evidence that the ballots referenced in the petition were received after 7:00 p.m. on Election Day," the court found.

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Arizona:

Fox News and the Associated Press have declared Biden won the state, but other networks have held off, deeming the race too close to call. On November 7, the Trump campaign and Republican National Committee filed a lawsuit in state court alleging voters' ballots had been rejected because they contained "bleeds," splotches" and "stray marks." These allegations appear similar to claims circulating on social media that ballots would not be counted if voters filled them out using a Sharpie marker. Election officials have said these claims are false. A lawsuit with similar allegations was filed in the same court system by a group of voters who were represented by a conservative legal fund on Nov. 4; plaintiffs dropped the lawsuit on Nov. 7. They did not provide a reason for dismissing the case.

[Nov 08, 2020] Flashback- Philadelphia Judge Admitted Stuffing Ballots for Cash - Newsmax.com by Eric Mack

Nov 08, 2020 | www.newsmax.com

President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani has frequently referenced Philadelphia's history of election fraud on behalf of Democrats, as the mainstream media has mostly discredited his 2020 fraud claims as lacking evidence.

But it was not too far back in history, just this past May, a South Philadelphia judge of elections admitted to taking bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democrat candidates, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer.

"Our election system relies on the honesty and the integrity of its election officials," U.S. Attorney William M. McSwain.said in a video statement, per the report. "If they are corrupt, the system is corrupt, which creates opportunities for election fraud and for the counting of fake votes."

Domenick J. DeMuro, 73, pleaded guilty to conspiracy, having deprived Philly voters of their civil rights by stuffing ballot boxes for judicial and other candidates in the 2014 and 2016 primary elections.

DeMuro was a former South Philly judge of elections and a Democrat operative, accepting thousands of dollars in bribes from a"political consultant," from $300 to $5,000 for each election, according to McSwain.

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"DeMuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear," McSwain's statement continued. "This is utterly reprehensible conduct. The charges announced today do not erase what he did, but they do ensure that he is held to account for those actions."

The consultant, unnamed by prosecutors, was a former elected official who took fees from Democrat candidates and used part of the money to pay DeMuro, judge of elections in the 36th Division of the 39th Ward, for votes.

The scope of the scandal was few fewer votes than the Trump campaign would need to prove corruption to show "determinative" impact on Trump's presidential race. DeMuro stuffed votes on the scale of 27, 40, and 46 votes, according to the report.

"It was pretty flagrant, and it was repeated again and again," Al Schmidt, vice chairman of the Office of Philadelphia City Commissioners, which runs elections, told the Inquirer. "It was a source of frustration for me because it kept occurring again and again.

"We take election integrity seriously. That's why we've been referring these cases since I first came into office in 2012."

The FBI was conducting the investigation and special agent Michael J. Driscoll called out the "election inference" corruption this past spring.

"Domenick DeMuro put a thumb on the scale for certain candidates, in exchange for bribes," Driscoll told the Inquirer. "As public trust in the electoral process is vital, the FBI's message today is clear: election interference of any kind, by hostile foreign actors or dishonest local officials, won't be tolerated."

The FBI had vowed to continue the corruption probes in Philadelphia and was asking for whistleblowers to come forward to aid the investigation.

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[Nov 08, 2020] The subtle difference between "stolen" and "not-quite-stolen" election

Nov 08, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

JM Gavin , 08 November 2020 at 10:28 AM

NancyK,

Are you asserting that no criminal action occurred, or that the criminal action that did occur had no effect on the outcome?

There is substantial clear and concrete evidence of criminal action. Are you denying that? Denying that undeniable fact makes you appear either hopelessly partisan or easily duped. More on that later.

Did the criminal action which undeniably occurred affect the outcome of the election? That is a logical question, the answer of which remains unknown. If the answer is "yes," then the "election was stolen." If no, then it wasn't "stolen."

We don't yet know the answer to that question. If you want to remain credible, you should wait until the answer is known. If the answer is never know (as now appears may be the case), so be it. You should refrain from making bold assertions about things that aren't known.

I don't really care that much about Trump or Biden. I do care deeply about the integrity of elections. I'd rather have President Biden than see Trump re-elected through fraud. While my personal politics are closer to Trump's policies than the Democrats' (as Biden has no policies), my respect for the system is far greater than my concern for the politics. I find both men boorish and uninteresting.

This is a very dangerous point in our history. If you don't understand that, understand this: There are two kinds of people in the world, predators and prey. Our system of checks and balances is all we have to keep us from being nothing more than predators and prey. If you choose not to see this, understand that you are lunch, nothing more.

And, yes, I am a predator.

JMG

[Nov 08, 2020] Several Arrests Made, Felonies Charged in Texas Vote Harvesting Scheme by Ellie Bufkin

Sep 24, 2020 | townhall.com

While the Democrats continue to stick to their narrative that incidents of ballot harvesting and rampant voter fraud are just a bogeyman conjured up by Republicans to disenfranchise people (or something), more evidence continues to prove just how wrong they are. In Texas, four people have been arrested in a ballot harvesting scheme, including a Gregg County commissioner.

That commissioner, Shannon Brown, 49, was arrested along with Marlena Jackson, 50, Charlie Burns, 84, and DeWayne Ward, 58, according to the Longview News-Journal. Brown alone was charged with 23 felonies including fraudulent use of mail ballot application, tampering with a governmental record with intent to harm or defraud, and good ole election fraud.

The elderly member of the crime group, Burns, was charged with eight felonies. Brown racked up six felony charges, but Jackson took the cake with 97 felony charges of organized election fraud and illegal voting.

The charges stem from activity during the 2018 Democratic primary in Texas when Brown won his contest against former Longview City Councilwoman Kasha Williams by just five votes. His victory was secured only after a tie was broken by counting provisional ballots, giving him the five-vote advantage. A recount confirmed his win. Williams challenged the results with a lawsuit.

Gregg County Elections Administrator Kathryn Nealy raised suspicions about the election saying that, for years, a disproportionate number of mail-in ballots came into the South Longview voting precinct. Things got stranger still when more than 230 mailed in ballots bore the signature of just five different people who claimed to have assisted the person casting the ballot.

The office of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton detailed the alleged intent of the defendants to fraudulently steal elections.

To increase the pool of ballots needed to swing the race in Brown's favor, the group targeted young, able-bodied voters to cast ballots by mail by fraudulently claiming the voters were "disabled," in most cases without the voters' knowledge or consent. Under Texas election law, mail ballots based on disability are specifically reserved for those who are physically ill and cannot vote in-person as a result.

In total, the state filed 134 felony charges against the four defendants, including engaging in organized election fraud, illegal voting, fraudulent use of an application for a mail-in ballot, unlawful possession of a mail-in ballot, tampering with a governmental record, and election fraud. Penalties for these offenses range from six months in state jail to 99 years in prison.

Paxton himself praised the work of investigators and underscored the importance of election integrity.

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"It is an unfortunate reality that elections can be stolen outright by mail ballot fraud. Election fraud, particularly an organized mail ballot fraud scheme orchestrated by political operatives, is an affront to democracy and results in voter disenfranchisement and corruption at the highest level," said Attorney General Paxton. "Mail ballots are vulnerable to diversion, coercion, and influence by organized vote harvesting schemes. This case demonstrates my commitment to ensuring Texas has the most secure elections in the country, and I thank the Gregg County Sheriff and District Attorney for their continued partnership. Those who try to manipulate the outcome of elections in Texas must be held accountable."


[Nov 08, 2020] Massive Mail-In Voter Fraud Identified in New Jersey -- Democrats Caught Harvesting Ballots in Bundles, Refuse to Step Down from Office

Nov 08, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Massive Mail-In Voter Fraud Identified in New Jersey -- Democrats Caught Harvesting Ballots in Bundles, Refuse to Step Down from Office By Joe Hoft
Published June 29, 2020 at 9:29am
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Democrats were caught cheating again. This time it was in New Jersey. Another day another Democrat fraud committed.

The New Jersey Democrats were caught harvesting ballots and mailing them in bundled packs. Voter harvesting is illegal in New Jersey and most states.

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The Democrats who were caught in the illegal scheme refuse to step down.

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All four men face multiple voting fraud charges. In addition to Jackson and Mendez, 51-year-old Shelim Khalique -- the brother of Paterson councilman Shahin Khalique -- and Abu Razyen, 21, were charged with vote-fraud counts.

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"Today's charges send a clear message: if you try to tamper with an election in New Jersey, we will find you and we will hold you accountable," said Attorney General Grewal on Thursday. "We will not allow a small number of criminals to undermine the public's confidence in our democratic process."

The Board of Elections previously said about 800 votes would be set aside and not counted, amid charges they were found improperly bundled in mailboxes in Paterson as well as at a drop box in nearby Haledon.

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Jackson is accused of approaching voters in his district and collecting their mail-in ballots to deliver to the city's Board of Elections himself, a violation of state election laws. The councilman allegedly had more than three ballots on him, none of which were his, and also received a voter's ballot without it having been filled out or sealed. It was then handed over to the elections board sealed, the attorney general said in the charges.

"Jackson is a public servant and has a distinct record of public service for many years," Jackson's attorney, Theodrore Kyles, said.


[Nov 08, 2020] We'll likely get some recounts which will not change the outcome because there isn't a problem with the counting of the ballots, it is the ballots themselves

Nov 08, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


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Evolution of Ballot Farming and Harvesting 101.

1: Find a senior for example, drive her to get registered. She has no idea why or for which party, but happy to help "this nice young fella". Then later pick her up and drive her to the polls with "instructions" on who to vote for.

2: Implement motor-voter registration. Increases the farm and therefore the harvest and also the number of non-residents registered and therefore voting by accident or intentionally. Credible estimates are as high 30 to 60 million non-citizens on US soil. Even Yale recently estimated 22 million.

3: No Voter ID even though most other countries require it. Voter ID is adamantly opposed by Democrats. Why?

4: Implement same day registration, another Democrat idea. Makes 1 above easier.

5: Implement early voting, another Democrat idea, since Step1 doesn't have a real high ROI. Vote weeks or months in advance, before the debates?

6: Implement vote-by-mail, ballots sent upon request. Another Democrat idea. Now some real possibilities for fraud and irregularities.

7: Implement vote-by-mail, ballots sent unsolicited! Another Democrat Party idea. Wow!

8: Democrat votes are concentrated in a few densely populated urban areas which makes harvesting easy in large numbers.

Why are most large urban areas Deep Blue? The folks there are often relatively poor, relatively majority minority. The areas often have high crime indexes. Those folks are just naturally politically engaged and civic minded and all vote-by-mail?

LBJ for example said, "I will have them voting Democrat for the next 200 years"


Who is "them"? How did he know? How did he do it?

The king of ballot harvesting. Just Philly alone beat Trump this year. How? lay_arrow


zeropopulationgrowth , 7 hours ago

Maybe the gop could write a bill requiring id and no electronic voting machines?

LeftandRightareWrong , 7 hours ago

In person only. Period.

The comets are coming , 7 hours ago

That's obvious, because they don't want secure voting. If this was in person only, trump would have been declared president Tuesday night

LeftandRightareWrong , 8 hours ago

"Once you have received your ballot, under no circumstances permit any campaign workers to fill in your choices or attempt to influence the way you vote."

Each mailed-in ballot NOT filled-out by the assigned registered voter is invalid for just that reason alone unless they have a proxy agreement on file. Basic election law. Ballot harvesting 101.

But how does the counter know who filled out the ballot? Do some simple audits, make a few phone calls.

The following scenarios are mentioned many times on line. Many know of it, maybe even do it. Most likely never think they are doing anything wrong.

"I never vote, but I am registered and don't even remember when or how. This year I received a ballot in the mail that I never even asked for. A nice young man knocked on my door and asked if he could help me with my ballot. I just gave it to him to fill out."

"There are five people living in my house. Four never vote, but I do, we are all registered, motor voter probably. When I voted in person, that was one vote from my entire household. Now with vote-by-mail, I just pick-up the ballots from the other four in my house and fill them in. Now there are five votes from my house alone instead of just one".

This could be for one or the other candidate. But for some still unexplained reason(s), one political party overwhelmingly uses vote-by-mail. 3 or 4 to 1! Why? The other party never mails anything? The other party prefers to drive and stand in line?

Now, this year, there were 10's of millions of blank ballots floating around the country.
Ballot harvesting could easily tip many elections that are somewhat close, even for POTUS which was razor close.

As Ted Cruz is fond of saying, "inference".

The variations of ballot harvesting are numerous.

Zorch , 6 hours ago

There is unfortunately no constitutional provision for a runoff and no time to do it by the mandated deadlines even if there were.

The various state legislatures could declare the election fraudulent and appoint electors themselves; the Supreme Court could void the choice of electors in one or more states. I don't think either of those is likely but I hope I'm wrong.

We'll likely get some recounts which will not change the outcome because there isn't a problem with the counting of the ballots, it is the ballots themselves.

[Nov 08, 2020] Gridlock -- Biden May Or May Not Win, But Trump Remains 'President' Of Red America by Alastair Crooke

Notable quotes:
"... Mike Lind, the American academic and author has observed , around the idea of America moving toward a 'managed' society -- based on 'science' -- that would be essentially finessed and controlled by a managerial, expert class. ..."
"... The notion however, of what America -- as Idea -- now constitutes, has fractured into two tectonic plates, moving apart in very different directions -- and likely to move even further apart as each 'plate' remains convinced that 'it won' -- and the sweetness of victory has been stolen. ..."
"... The fact remains that the election has produced a result in which it is abundantly clear that one half of the American electorate precisely voted to oust the other half. ..."
"... A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. ..."
Nov 08, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Alastair Crooke via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

One clear outcome of the U.S. election was the collapse of the promised 'Blue Wave' -- an implosion that marks the 'beginning of the end' to a powerful spell enthralling the West. It was the delusion which Ron Chernow, the acclaimed U.S. presidential historian, gave credence, as he contemptuously dismissed America's "topsy-turvy moment" as purely ephemeral, and a "surreal interlude in American life": No longer can it be said that there is one 'normal'. Win or lose the White House, Red Trumpism remains as 'President' for half America.

Biden, by contrast, served as the prospect for Restoration -- a return to a hallowed consensus in American politics -- to a reassuring 'sanity' of facts, science and truth . Biden, it was hoped, would be the agency over-lording a crushing electoral landslide that would terminate irrevocably Trump's rude interruption of the 'normal'. Biden supporters were rallied, Mike Lind, the American academic and author has observed , around the idea of America moving toward a 'managed' society -- based on 'science' -- that would be essentially finessed and controlled by a managerial, expert class.

Over time, Lind suggests, American society would begin to depart more, and more easily, from its republican roots, through a process already underway: via attempts to alter the Constitutional order, and other rules, to bring about a change in the way America is governed.

The notion however, of what America -- as Idea -- now constitutes, has fractured into two tectonic plates, moving apart in very different directions -- and likely to move even further apart as each 'plate' remains convinced that 'it won' -- and the sweetness of victory has been stolen.

The fracturing of the 'One Normal', by contrast, provides some kind of respite to much of the globe.

The fact remains that the election has produced a result in which it is abundantly clear that one half of the American electorate precisely voted to oust the other half. It is gridlock -- with the Supreme Court and Senate in the hands of one party, and the House of Representatives and White House (possibly) in the hands of the other. As Glenn Greenwald warns :

No matter what the final result, there will be substantial doubts about its legitimacy by one side or the other, perhaps both. And no deranged conspiracy thinking is required for that. An electoral system suffused with this much chaos, error, protracted outcomes and seemingly inexplicable reversals will sow doubt and distrust even among the most rational citizens.

Though the maths and maps suggests Biden will likely reach 270 Electoral votes, the old saying 'It ain't over 'till it's over', holds true. The electoral vote scenarios in the key 'swing states' would only apply if there is no litigation, fraud or theft. However all three are in play -- If you are stuffing the ballot box, you first wait to see what the regular vote is, so that you know how many votes you 'need' ( mathematical anomalies aside) to push your candidate over the top. Trump, somewhat rashly, gave out the GOP vote calculations at 02.30 on Wednesday, and hey-presto, loads of absentee ballots suddenly arrived at certain polling stations at around 04.00. That seems to have happened in Wisconsin, where over 100,000 Biden votes appeared seemingly out of nowhere on a flash drive delivered by hand from a Democratic district. That put Biden ahead in Wisconsin -- but litigation is in process. Likewise, it appears that a huge "absentee ballot" dump appeared in Michigan that heavily favored Biden.

This is just the beginning of a new and more uncertain phase that could go on for weeks . It may be that ultimately Congress will have to certify and make the final determination in late January. Meanwhile, there are some things we know with much higher certainty: The Republican majority in the Senate may hold until the 2024 election. So, even if Biden wins, his agenda will not hold through 2024.

A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. Whomsoever is certified by Congress cannot truthfully say they represent 'the nation'. Consensus is fractured, and it is difficult to see any leadership that can bring Americans together as a 'united people'.

"There is not a single important cultural, religious, political or social force that is pulling Americans together more than it is pushing us apart," David French notes in a new book Divided We Fall: America's Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation . French -- an anti-Trump conservative -- argues that America's divisions are so great, and the political system so poorly designed to handle them, that secession may eventually be the result: "If we keep pushing people and pushing people and pushing people, you cannot assume that they won't break", he writes. (A 2018 poll found that nearly a quarter of each party -- Democrat and Republican -- characterized the opposing party as "evil").

An ideological split, and the concomitantly contested America as Idea has huge geo-political implications, reaching well beyond America itself -- and principally for Europe's élites . European leaders did not see it coming when Trump was elected in 2016. They misjudged Brexit. And this year, they misread U.S. politics once again. They yearned for a Biden win, and they (still) fail to see the connection between the popular rebellion of Red under Mr. Trump, and the angry protests occurring across Europe against lockdown.

Separating tectonic plates -- more strategically -- usually signal a kind of dualism that betokens civil conflict. In other words, their separation and moving apart turns into an ideological struggle for the nature of society and its institutional fabric.

Historian, and former War College Professor, Mike Vlahos warns (echoing Lind), that, "there is, here: more of a hidden -- and thus in a sense, occult struggle -- by which over time, societies begin to depart more, and more easily, from their roots. The western dominant élites presently are seeking to cement their hold over society [moving towards a 'managed' society]: To have full control over the direction of society, and, of course, a framework of rule that protects their wealth."

"Quite to the surprise of everyone, and given that the Republicans are being represented by a billionaire who has a great many friends in Manhattan -- the Wall Street donors to the two campaigns, outnumber Trump's donors for Biden by 5-to-1".

Why, Vlahos asks, would Wall Street invest in a man -- Biden -- and in a Party, ostensibly seeking to move America toward this 'managed' progressive society? Is it because they are convinced of a need radically to restructure the world's economy and geopolitical relations? Is this then Vlahos' occult struggle?

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Many of the élite hold that we are at that monumental inflection point at this moment -- In a nutshell, their narrative is simply this: the planet is already economically and demographically over-extended; the infinite economic expansion model is bust; and the global debt and government entitlement expenditure bubble too, is set to pop at the same moment.

Mike Vlahos notes that in a curious way this American story mirrors that of ancient Rome in the last century of the Republic -- with on the one hand, the élite Roman class, and on the other, the Populares , as Red Americans' equivalent:

"This is in fact the dual story of Rome in the last century of the Republic, and it tracks very well -- with the transformation going on today [in the U.S.] -- and it is a transformation The society which emerged at the end of the Roman Revolution, and civil war had too, a totally dominant élite class.

"This was a new world, in which the great landowners, with their latifundia [the slave-land source of wealth], who had been the 'Big Men' leading the various factions in the civil wars, became the senatorial archons that dominated Roman life for the next five centuries -- while the People, the Populares, were ground into a passive -- not helpless -- but generally dependent and non-participating element of Roman governance: This sapped away at the creative life of Rome, and eventually led to its coming apart.

" today American inequality is as great as in the period right before the French Revolution, and is mirrored in what was happening to Rome in that long century of transformation. The problem we have right now, and which is going to make this revolution more intense, is I think, the cynical conclusion and agenda of Blue to just leave behind the Americans they do not need [in the New Economy] -- which is to say all of Red America, and to put them into a situation of hardship and marginalization, where they cannot coalesce, to form a rival -- as it were -- Popular Front.

"What I think what we are seeing here [in the U.S.] is profound: American society -- emerging from this passage, is going to be completely different. And frankly, it already feels different. It already feels -- as it has felt for the past four years -- that we are in a rolling civil war norm now, in which deep societal strife is now the normal way in which we handle transfers of power. Issues will be [momentarily] resolved, with the path of society [painfully] staked out through violent conflict. That is likely to be our path for decades ahead.

"The problem with that in the shorter term, is that there is still enough of the nation aroused and ready to fight this process. The problem: Can the last energies of the Old Republic still be harnessed against this seemingly inevitable, transformation?"

A 'fourth industrial revolution' is the only way by which to 'square this circle', according to this mindset. The Reset is purposefully aimed to disrupt all areas of life, albeit on a planetary scale. Shock therapy, as it were, to change the way we humans think of ourselves, and our relationship with the world . The Great Reset looks to a supply-side 'miracle', achieved through full-spectrum automation and robotics. A world where the money is digital; the food is lab-grown; where everything is counted and controlled by giant monopolies; and everyday existence is micromanaged by ever-monitoring, ever-nudging AI that registers thoughts and feelings before the people even get a chance to make those thoughts.


LVrunner , 2 hours ago

Traitorous Mittens Romney took to Twitter to congratulate sleepy joe today. He’s such an epic douchebag!

PGR88 , 2 hours ago

He reminds me of some kind of aging gay Mormon **** star

LVrunner , 2 hours ago

His kid was in business with bidens, not much of surprise. Just disgusted.

Roacheforque , 1 hour ago

I find it amazing that pundits can describe the detailed evidence of the fraudulent activities of democratic operatives, along with the understanding that no such activities took part on the republican front, and simply dismiss this legal and moral contrast with a broad stroke finding that "the nation is divided".

Simply. *******. Amazing.

Who writes this ****?

I am no Trump sycophant, but the contrast in "division" is law abiding vs. fraudulent, anarchy vs civilized order, constitutional vs. totalitarian. Trump's personality flaws are immense, but I contend that a solid majority of Americans voted for president in accordance to the red wave downvote, and that a gross misrepresentation of living human Biden voters does not constitute an equal division.

Thank God!

Fizzy Head , 2 hours ago

Funny how there is no evidence of fraud with the Dems, but it was all Russian meddling in the last election...

#palletsofballotsisfraud

Chemical_Engineer_IT_Analyst , 2 hours ago

Remember Republicans you are the ones who have the real power!

It's not a good idea to bully the productive class. Without the conservative workers the country would starve in the cold and dark. Who are not needed are the parasitic class of politicians, bureaucrats, lobbyists, Deep State workers, incompetent teachers and Marxist professors. And we would all be better off without Facebook and Twitter. We also don't need NBC CNN, ABC, and other alphabet media, Washington Post, New York Times and other propaganda outlets.

SurfingUSA , 2 hours ago

Biden, by contrast, served as the prospect for Restoration – a return to a hallowed consensus in American politics – to a reassuring ‘sanity’ of facts, science and truth .

Give me a break. He served as a prospect of a Chinese sock puppet.

not dead yet , 1 hour ago

Selected facts, selected science, selected truth. Better known as cherry picking. If that isn't working turn fiction into fact and truth to legitimize junk science. Better known as man made climate change.

tk8565 , 2 hours ago

If you like your fraud, you can keep your fraud.

This will happen repeatedly from every election on, as they learn and improve.

If it isnt fixed now in court it will never be.

Election laws must be fixed.

If unsuccessful the only plan left is to ((censored))

ClusterF , 2 hours ago

No thank you, and yes I care damn well enough to fight about it. The founders rebelled over a miniscule tea tax for gods sake!!!! This is about subversion of the entire race to a globalist over class.

pluto the dog , 1 hour ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=730452901154616&_rdr

George Galloway says it's a COUP.

This will upset a lot of leftards

Barnacles , 1 hour ago

the idea of America moving toward a ‘managed’ society – based on ‘science’ – that would be essentially finessed and controlled by a managerial, expert class.

Managed society sounds a heck of a lot like communism. That is, one-party "management" of people and resources by elites unaccountable to the people via free and fair elections.

ChetRoman , 2 hours ago

"Biden, by contrast, served as the prospect for Restoration – a return to a hallowed consensus in American politics – to a reassuring ‘sanity’ of facts, science and truth "

Who writes this horse****? Biden was a senile placeholder for the next puppet of the "ruling class" or "deep state" that has only contempt for working Americans, the deplorables. Biden will formalize Big Tech's and MSM domination of what we can say and think. They have censored 95% of the media to keep the public from seeing how thoroughly corrupt and incompetent Biden is. Trump has his faults but he is the only one, in at least the last 30 years, that even mentioned the downward spiral of the working Americans. What we have is a Color Revolution and the Bolsheviks are a major part of it.

Patmos , 1 hour ago

Technocracy is just another form of tyranny, and once the global economy inevitably collapses technocracy will only end up proving the saying that when the blind follow the blind they both end up in a ditch.

Deplorable , 1 hour ago

I'm actually happy that Biden won and will continue with the lockdown ********. It keeps me working from home until I decide to officially retire. As a govt contractor I can get away with working less than half the time while still getting paid for a 40 hour workday.

Added bonus, I can drink beer all day long and day trade on the side.

hoytmonger , 2 hours ago

Nothing will change with Biden as President,

Except for the rhetoric.

Nexus789 , 2 hours ago

They will spend their time enriching themselves. Biden, according to Forbes is worth ten million. How does a career politician do that.

RozKo , 2 hours ago

A world where the money is digital; the food is lab-grown; where everything is counted and controlled by giant monopolies; and everyday existence is micromanaged by ever-monitoring, ever-nudging AI that registers thoughts and feelings before the people even get a chance to make those thoughts.

Oh boy, lots of fun, maximum security prison with a twist, you'll be getting screwed by robot bubba and he be in your head too.

Onthebeach6 , 2 hours ago

Rupert Murdoch said a couple of months ago that he expected Trump to lose in a landslide.

Looks like he worked overtime to achieve this outcome.

3-fingered_chemist , 2 hours ago

Trump should just give the Left what it wants. Total lockdown of the country until we have 6 months straight of zero cases of coronavirus. That means no new President can be sworn in until that time is reached. Have fun! The next two years will be hilarious as the Dems further implode. You already can see it with Pelosi wanting to be Speaker again. The Progressives will think that they have some mandate, but the Old Guard is going to throw them under the bus yet again. ANTIFA and BLM will be burning down the Dem cities not because of Trump but because they aren’t getting their way. Biden won’t even be allowed to make decisions, but the Progressives won’t be calling the shots either. This will be the de facto Hillary Presidency. The irony is that Mitch is likely to be the most powerful person in Washington.

monero_123 , 2 hours ago

Even though I do agree with some conservative principals, I probably lean more blue than red overall.

Unfortunately, I still don't get the opinion on getting mad at the "blue" states for making some of these very commentators' life worse. The computer you are using, the phone you have in your pocket, the internet you are browsing, the webhost that hosts Zerohedge, etc, etc is all from the advancements of companies/talent that are in those states.

But, at the same time, the more people are angry at the invisible boogeyman, the easier it is for myself to advance in society while others just sit and complain.

OK Boomer , 16 seconds ago

It's not that complicated. The US has had for many decades an entrenched "Deep State" running much of the govt. Republican and Democrat parties are the two hands of this Deep State. When an establishment Democrat president replaces an establishment Republican (or vice versa), no actual power is transferred. It's just the Deep State passing the baton from one hand to the other. The enduring power is in the un-elected govt. The process of electing a president is normally just a symbolic ritual which serves to generate consent by allowing the masses to feel as though they actually chose their govt.

Trump was the unicorn president. He was never supposed to be elected. And even as president his power has been very limited. The Justice Dept, CIA, FBI, all conspired against him. The only prosecutions by "his" Justice Department were against members of his own administration. The purpose of the US president is to act as a figurehead and a rubber stamp for the wishes of the dominant un-elected govt. Biden fits the bill perfectly--a complete non-entity.

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Frozen BlueScreen , 8 hours ago

It's time for the sore loser crying to end. Trump lost because he didn't deliver on his promises. Hillary is not locked up. Illegals and H1Bs are still being employed. There is very little wall. O-care wasn't repealed/replaced. For the pandemic we got useless vaccines and vents, instead of HCQ for anyone who wants it.

The GOP is all RINO. There is only 1 party. Their job is to sell our representation to the highest bidder. We are the product and we are royally sold out.

Bananamerica is done unless some state secedes. I would suggest that it be a very poor state, because if done correctly it will become the richest. A hard currency that cannot be debased. Very low tax on businesses. No property tax. No civil forfeiture. It would instantly become like Singapore or the Caymon Islands. Every wealthy corp would want to be there. Wall Street and silicon valley would want to move there. Lousiana, Missisipi or Alabama w/b great choices.

gonediving , 7 hours ago

Stupid lame lies and spin....Trump did not run on locking hillary up! He did as much as he could with obamacare and is putting in place a new policy that will be about a new healthcare plan which i am sure biden will stop. Trump is not God and is not responsible for covid. he did ALL that was asked of him by governors. But yes, voting in another clinton, obama, bush and biden is handing it all back to the globalists! Trump was protecting what was left of america that seems to want to be Canada or Britain and not independent!

Kirk Patrick , 7 hours ago

I was waiting for Frozen BlueHairedWoman to say she has a pickup truck and loaded all her clips.

Covidiot Lvr , 7 hours ago

Trump also lost because he's a liar. He said the trade deficit would be reversed. (Instead, it got worse.)

Trump said he'd pay back our national debt in 8 years. Instead he added $7 trillion to it, much of it pre-Covid.

Trump said he'd build the wall and make Mexico pay for it. Only a few measly miles were built, none of it paid by Mexico.

In a nutshell, Trump is full of ****.

a false profit , 7 hours ago

He replaced 400 miles of run down fence with new fence. he wasn't able to do more because Dems and environmentalists prevented the construction of new wall

ClusterF , 5 minutes ago

8ft playground fence with 18-30ft sheet steel security barricade. We dont live in the 1200s where it has to be a castle wall to be effective.

ZeroTruth , 7 hours ago

Chump didn't fulfill a single campaign promise and commanded nothing. He was a political eunich.

No wall. No end to daca. No end to obamacare. No bringing home the troops. No locking up Hilldog or anyone else unless they were close to Trump himself. No draining the Swamp. Nepotism, cronyism and trillions of dollars in bailouts to the cronies will be his legacy. Only idiots would applaud these actions.

apple_orange , 5 hours ago

When I heard Trump's fabulous inaugration speech my first thoughts were that he will not pull this off without (coughs nervously) "removing" at least two hundred of his opponents. He of course failed to do this and he even appointed some of his opponents into the administration or took money from them.

Dash8 , 5 hours ago

Proof of taking money?

artichoke , 5 hours ago

Son of a bitch! (moderator, this is a direct quote from the presidential candidate who won according to the media.)

apple_orange , 4 hours ago

OK he let the likes of Sheldon Adelson influence him. It seems odd to me that he would trash the Iran deal. Why was it so bad? Secondly, backing Brexit was also dumb. He should have stayed clear of this foreign stuff and put America first. Why p1ss off Irish Americans over Brexit for example? America needs to improve trade with EU not the City of fooking London.

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Anyone saying that what is happening right now in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan etc. is not a conscious effort to rig an election is either a victim of propaganda or being willfully obtuse.

Because they told us this is what would happen. Through the Transition Integrity Project and bread crumbs left throughout the campaign, we knew it would come to this.

For weeks I've been saying I hope Trump's performance is strong enough and his coattails long enough to preclude the Democrats and The Davos Crowd from trying to pull off the theft of the election.

That they would see the magnitude of the problem in front of them and be stopped short by little things like math.

And then realize that even if they did try and cheat it would be so transparent that nothing good for them would be gained by it. But they didn't listen.

Trump almost pulled it off. His numbers across the board were excellent, stunning even given everything that's happened.

He may yet pull this out and I support any and all efforts to do so, but it is looking quite grim today.

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The potential is there for the Republicans to pick up as many as twelve seats in the House while holding the Senate if not picking up a seat, depending on how the courts rule on the already well-documented fraud.

Coattails that long are prima facia evidence that what's happening with the presidential election is fraud. I won't go into the list of red flags here, others have done a far better job (and are, frankly, more entertaining), but they are big enough and red enough to get even the laziest, porn-besotted bull in the world angry.

And that's what should be scaring the crap out of everyone on 'the Left' today. Because as we heard yesterday, with coattails that long and the amount of obscene behavior on display, the remaining members of the Democratic caucus in the House are scared and not just for their political lives.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi was in damage-control mode, saying "but we held the House" -- which they were supposed to expand their majority in -- and are "on track to win the presidency," which no one will take even remotely seriously.

I've had visions of seeing Pelosi dragged out of the Capitol by her expensive dyed hair choking on her dentures while being arraigned for sedition, but her getting beaten with the 'awesome power of the Speaker's gavel' and lynched by her own caucus for incompetence will be even more delicious.

At around 2am Tuesday evening I realized that they were actually going to do this and I texted a friend the next morning. His response?

"Civil war it is then."

There can be no other response to this from men and women of character. Exhaust every legal means possible, certainly, but remember that the courts are as corrupt as the county governments. Fear of reprisal makes men weak.

The one thing Trump said in his post-election remarks that rang so true and with me and should ring true with every libertarian-leaning person (left or right) alive, that the process itself is corrupting. It corrupts everything it touches.

Four years of the Democrats and the Media screaming about Russian collusion and undermining the legitimacy of Donald Trump inspired thousands of people to become corrupt poll workers, mailmen, supervisors of elections, party operatives and the like.

And they obviously feel justified in this. They are, after all, the heroes of their own stories whose motives are pure and whose hearts are in the right place.

If we just get rid of Orange Man Bad, everything wrong with America will be gone. Scapegoating is as old as mankind but it doesn't work anymore now that we've internalized the story from the scapegoat's point of view, Christ.

So, all they have now is the unquenchable envy of Marxism which burns until it consumes everyone in retribution or they are put down like rabid dogs. That's what is on display in these counting centers.

On the other hand, even Trump's detractors had to admit the guy did inspired work to try and bring as many people under his tent as possible. To right the wrongs they see in the most non-violent way possible, voting.

But if that's not good enough, if the message sent wasn't strong enough through the ballot box, then that lesson will be taught in a far uglier way.

This is why I excoriated the libertarians the other day. I could see this coming. Either cooler heads prevail or the grievances get settled with violence. It's our job to be the voice in between, not sit on the sidelines like high school band nerds sitting through a football game.

From a market perspective the threat of a marginally-empowered Harris presidency with he slimmest House majority any party has held in decades and a divided Senate means nothing gets done until the mid-terms.

And any attempt by Harris and Obama to legislate through Executive Order will result in even more dramatic events than we've seen to date, including secession.

This is why Bitcoin, gold, silver and U.S. Treasuries exploded to the upside. Big money moved into the most liquid assets, UST's, while the marginal flow piled into safe havens and those worried about cross-border capital controls are running into Bitcoin and cryptos.

Everyone is holding their collective breath while we grind towards the Great Reset with most of the first world either under lockdown over last year's flu or paralyzed by political shenanigans which makes the U.S. look like Venezuela.

The rising euro is a function of the lockdowns and the local need for liquidity. The spasming bonds markets blew out a lot of carry and interest rate trades this week. While the dollar looks like it's getting killed, what's really happening is trades betting on Harris destroying capital have reversed.

And the focus now turns to the wholesale destruction of European economies. Oh well, Europe was a good thing while it lasted. Enjoy the return of feudalism, folks, maybe there will be something left for me to visit before I die.

We still have our guns, FYI.

And this is why Trump isn't going anywhere. The Deplorables now have to become The Ungovernables. No more negotiations, discussions, turning the other cheek, etc.

Ungovernable. Just say no to Commies.

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What's the point of voting or even democracy at all if a few dozen angry black election officials in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta can decide the entire thing?

-- Roosh (@rooshv) November 6, 2020

Hey man, don't let the midwit, white women off the hook there in this Civil War race has nothin' to do with it.

Because no matter what vote totals you manufacture or political/judicial arms you twist no one can rule for long without the consent of the governed.

This is not a LARP nor a drill. It is a simple statement of fact.

If the men who keep the engine of the world running refuse to show up one day, the God of Power the Marxists all worship will vanish like Hillary's emails.

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This is particularly true when nearly all of those men are armed and are the ones that grow the food, treat the water, patrol the streets and keep the lights on.

The legal case is being built now to go to the State Legislatures, who are the ones who actually decide whose electors go to the Electoral College, and invalidate the votes in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin and Michigan, at a minimum.

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Getting those Republican-controlled legislatures to throw out the suggested results of a tainted election is exactly why the Electoral College exists. It is the last defense against mob rule and the corrupting nature of politics. The commies in the DNC and The Davos Crowd don't like to hear that and frankly don't care but that is the reality of it.

That's Trump's path to the presidency at this point, because the votes will be tallied to ensure that he not only loses but lose by a large enough 'electoral vote' majority to nullify any rulings by the Supreme Court.

Pelosi is prepared to invoke the 20th Amendment if there is no resolution on Inauguration day, January 20th through an act of Congress. This is why many House seats have not been called even though they are over.

She made her choice. So did the all the people currently engaged in this theft. Now the nature of the State is clear for a majority of people to see.

Civil War it is, then. Molon Labe.

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Thucydides , 7 hours ago

What is now set into motion is unstoppable. I am not saying it will erupt tomorrow, but it will erupt. The seething anger that begins the day the corrupt political class resumes business as usual will not abate. It will build and build. Only in retrospect will people understand what has transpired. History is always 20/20 in hindsight. The corrupt political class is myopic to its own weaknesses and arrogant in its methods. They are only focused on money and power. What they think the unwashed are capable of flies in the face of history. What happened to the French aristocracy in 1789 or the Tsarist Russians in 1917? Two wars have been fought already in this country and they were both between people who had very little differences between them. This war is between people with a Grand Canyon between them. There is no going back once it starts. God help us all.

ZeroTruth , 7 hours ago

Nah. All that **** requires conviction and courage, values Americans sorely lack. It's just gonna be four more years of tough talk by keyboard warriors while the idiot antifa LARPers run around with wooden shields in Portland like extras at Medieval Times.

Send in the clowns.

Zeitgeist Nomad , 6 hours ago

In all seriousness America, your governments have been messing with elections in other countries for decades.

Trump even acknowledged this in the first campaign.

Is it really such a surprise to you that the same organizations wouldn't ( and haven't already) done such things at home?

Whether or not this is some elaborate plot to reveal these type of misdeeds remains to be seen.

I hope Trump does win, and I hope the nefarious actors are revealed and punished.

However, the selective approach to this type of malfeasance carried out in other countries in the "name" (only) of the American people is the slippery slope that allowed the fundamental corruption of the electoral process that now besets you.

Argon1 , 43 minutes ago

Apparently Trump had election monitors and for some reason the fact that Nanci Pelosi is the majority stakeholder in the crooked ballot machines - Dominion has been released to the public...

CatInTheHat , 7 hours ago

"If we just get rid of Orange Man Bad, everything wrong with America will be gone. Scapegoating is as old as mankind but it doesn't work anymore now that we've internalized the story from the scapegoat's point of view, Christ."

Ah yes and thats the crux of it all isn't it?

The Democrats THEFT of this election is as obvious as their theft of the 2016 and 2020 primaries for their preferred candidate and people even LIBERAL VOTERS, KNOW IT.

Democrats over played their hand. To promote this pedophile sociopath who campaigned from his basevent and whose rallies couldn't fill a broom closet, won more votes than Obama????

THAT. IS. LAUGHABLE..

People are seeing that this is not even statistically possible and that the Rona was the EXCUSE for mail in ballots, making it far easier to CHEAT. But that counting all of a sudden stopped then resumed was also a huge red flag. And now whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork, including a dude who works for the post office where workers were told to back date ballots.

I don't give one phuck what you think of ORANGE MAN BAD but this election is fraudulent and Biden has won nothing fair and square. And if you did vote for Biden because ORANGE MAN BAD then you are a MORON.. Biden and Obama were WHY we got a Trump in the first place.

If the globalist thought they would get away with THEFT of the election without consequence they are WRONG..

Biden is ILLEGITIMATE and will be seen that way by hundreds of millions of Americans who will FIGHT AND RESIST THE GLOBALIST MANDATED GREAT RESET.

elec9999 , 6 hours ago

Let's see, America was responsible for:

Coup d'etats in:

Iran, Ukraine, libya, haiti, chile, much more.

Attempted: Venezuela (twice), Syria

Color revolutions in:

Hong kong, Arab spring, belarus, ukraine, much more.

Outright regime change: Iraq

Now we know how it feels.

Aloha_Snackbar , 6 hours ago

Biden lost all the top bellwether counties in America except for the one in his home State which he only got by a very small margin; the odds of this happening in a fair election are astronomically small but Sleepy Joe can pull off miracles! It's also a miracle that a batch of 23,277 Biden ballots were "found" after the election in Philly; not a single one of them contained a vote for any other candidate! Incredible!

Admit it. This election was won fair and square. Ignore the computer glitches, the dead voters, the backdated ballots, and the blatant violation of election laws by kicking out poll observers and covering up windows at counting centers among other things. Claims of voter fraud are just baseless and stupid. Twitter and the mainstream media said so.

Onthebeach6 , 1 hour ago

Trump got so many votes that the fraudsters had to create such a quantity of false votes for Basement Biden - of the lid - that he ended up with millions more votes than Obama got in 2008. In fact Basement got more 'votes' than any presidential candidate in history.

The candidate who couldn't attract 50 supporters to a 'rally' got more votes than any Presidential candidate in history.

Add to this his selling of his influence whilst on official government business and you can see why Basement shouldn't ever be inaugurated as President.

pluto the dog , 7 hours ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=730452901154616&_rdr

George Galloway says it's a COUP. He is a full on leftist but here he sounds half approving of Trump

Morphic , 6 hours ago

Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media. Joe Biden is not the president-elect just because media declares him so. Media coordinated efforts are attempting to simply declare Joe Biden the president and ignore the rule of law. There is no official winner until every legal vote is counted accurately, the states certify results, and all legal challenges are resolved. As a reminder, here are the official dates that matter (as opposed to what CNN et al. think).

December 8: States are expected to resolve controversies at least six days before the meeting of electors.

December 14: Electors meet in respective states to certify their votes for President and Vice President.

Nature_Boy_Wooooo , 7 hours ago

My take here is that the pollsters made them think that Biden was going to win and they were just going to push him over the finish line as necessary.

But then the pollsters were wrong......and that's where the cheating became blatantly obvious as they were committed to cheating the count. The line graph from Michigan that night was the most appalling thing that I have ever seen which suggests that nobody with a statistical background was on board at 3 a.m. because allowing that pattern on a chart was moronic.

This is why they are so angry at the pollsters for being wrong. They were so wrong that the entire game plan was destroyed.

Chadwick , 1 hour ago

If you read the wording carefully, it says the AP Projects that Biden will be the next president. Ultimately, they have no say in the issue. The election has to be certified, and if you have been listening to anyone outside of the MSM you should know there are all sorts of issues going on. "glitches"

Consider 100,000 ballots just showing up. How does that happen? Not one Trump vote within the stack. Did you go and vote? Were you with 99,999 other democrats? See, the logical fact is, ballots are commingled together just how voters are. It is impossible to separate 100,000 votes to one candidate with out some illegal effort. It's like a kid having choclate icing on his face and saying he didn't eat any cake.

Vivekwhu , 3 hours ago

To all US voters: note that in every other democracy the media do not "call" the election, they merely make projections and predictions until the votes are certified, counted and certified, and if needed several re-counts and challenges are complete, and the results then announced by a electoral commission/board.

Do not let the media Demfarts get in the way of the counting and certification of all legal votes and legal challenges, or the credibility and acceptance in the whole electoral process will be shattered.

watamess , 6 hours ago

Remember Pelosi ripping the State of the Nation speech in front of the world... These corrupt assclowns hate Trump with a passion, and they are powerful. Pelosi is the mob and is involved in the election counting machines business with her husband... She said a week prior "no matter what the count is, BIden will be sworn in on January 20"... No one said anything. THat alone should have landed her at FBI for questioning at the very least.

SmokeyBlonde , 6 hours ago

Except the FBI is in on the coup attempt.

The Continental , 3 hours ago

A clarion call to all patriots: please go to Rudy Giuliani's Youtube channel Common Sense ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-9J07yyuXQTx_uZQchtwsg ) where he details the high crimes and misdemeanors of Joseph Biden and the Biden family including full documentation garnered from Hunter Biden's hard drive and an insider whistleblower. Folks this is deadly serious. If Biden obtains the presidency, he will be a veritable puppet of the chinese communist government and utterly blackmailable. Biden as president will put every American life at risk, especially our military and intelligence folk. Please spread this information far and wide because the MSM has sold the American people out and suppressed this knowledge per Mr. Giuliani.

Vivekwhu , 4 hours ago

Gee, there are 17 US intelligence agencies, the finest law enforcement agency in the FBI and none of them have the ability to protect the integrity, credibility and trust in the US electoral process? Perhaps Trump has already ordered the gathering of EVIDENCE since the postal ballot fraud was signalled months ago? Perhaps Trump gave the orders and none of them bothered to do anything as they were already working with Biden (laptopgate)?

TRUMP HAS BEEN IN OFFICE BUT NOT IN POWER.

DARK DAYS FOR US/us!

ponchoramic , 4 hours ago

Trump has been in office but not in power. Sorta but he was more in power than any other President who has bent over to these criminals. He got a lot done dispite them. He will have four more years when this is over.

dogsbollocks , 5 hours ago

Dems are being very gracious celebrating their legally challenged fraudulent election victory..Lapping in all the adulation from their Globalist NWO controlled MSM sycophants.

If there is one thing i have learned from this election.It is how badly compromised by third parties western MSM has become..Calling it Orwellian is understating the problem.

Anything insinuating Kosher Nostra involvement and you likely see the results immediately.

[Nov 08, 2020] A lot of conservatives are either afraid of or angry about the changes that are happening in the country, both culturally and economically.

Nov 08, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Random Thoughts Kiyoshi01 10 hours ago

What I see, and it is anecdotal only, is that a lot of conservatives are either afraid of or angry about the changes that are happening in the country, both culturally and economically. These changes even since the 80s and 90s are putting us in greater contact with other Americans, and for rural Americans especially, it's too much to handle.

Trump gave some promise to the idea that he would work to separate that back, maybe to a 1960s era, with soft segregation, even if not directly saying so, and also have factories and farms thriving again. It sounded good to a lot of conservatives, but it really has no chance of actually happening.

The sad part of all of it, from my point of view as center left, is that Trump could have potentially accomplished a few things that would have mitigated the damage for those conservatives, but he wound up with republicans in control of both the House and Senate. He really doesn't have much in the way of actual principles, himself, so he went along with the republican agenda, all tax cuts and judges, all the time. Two years in, all he had to show were the tax cut bill and the judges, since then only judges. But that effectively baked the cake that has now got us as divided as we are. So now, the conservatives look at themselves as being constantly under attack, Biden is either a devout Stalinist style communist, or close to dementia taking over, and giving the country to Harris, who will be even worse.

Kiyoshi01 Random Thoughts 10 hours ago

You're probably right. I think that fear of cultural diversity is also what keeps many people in those places. They'll choose to stay in decaying towns that are never going to rebound instead of moving a couple of hours away to a place where they may have Guatemalan neighbors.

OrthoAnabaptist Random Thoughts 8 hours ago

You are so right and it's the reason I can't "hate/"despise" the trump base too much. I feel sadness. They have some legitimate pains, but they run after the wrong medicine and trump is a terrible pill... all talk and no policy substance. One of the only things he did for his rural base was a handout to farmers (hurt by his policy) and all the other promises? (awesome health care, return of manufacturing) Nada. Not one inch of help or real problem solving for them. Now if only independents or the other party could figure out how to actually do something of substance for these people. And taking some responsibility for their situation and opening up a little to the Other would help them too. Their towns might grow again, might experience some revitalization... if they allowed refugees/legal immigrants to come; if they allowed someone other than the good ol boy town club to run some things.

Random Thoughts OrthoAnabaptist 7 hours ago

If they had focused on infrastructure, that could be a huge benefit to those areas. And that applies to the Biden administration as well. Infrastructure covers a lot of different areas, roads, electricity, internet services, and so on. And a lot of what is needed has to be manufactured. Factories could be set up to make what is needed, and I would go so far as to make most of the factories employee owned, to get them away from Wall Street. That could be decades worth of real economic growth in small towns.

Night King Kiyoshi01 10 hours ago

I've never understood the "cruel and evil" aspect of supporting Trump. Trump, his accomplishments, his supporters, and his opponents and their supporters do not exist in a vacuum. I see far more cruelty and evil on the left and do not understand how anybody can support it; but I don't call leftist supporters cruel and evil. I don't know them. You don't know me or us.

kalendjay Kiyoshi01 4 hours ago

Trump correctly pointed out at the last debate that the separation and actual caging of migrant children originated under Obama. Pelosi politicized COVID by denouncing Trump and urging everyone to "come to Chinatown" when a lockdown was underway. So where were you while you were getting high? In a champagne supernova in the sky?

Annie from Alaska Ken Osborne 8 hours ago

Why not vote outside?

Most countries in Europe did not allow ad hoc massive increases in mail-in voting even though they were also hit by the deadly coronavirus: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol...

Your point is still a fair one to make in the comments. I just don't think it's shocking to leave it out of the article as you do, and for me personally it doesn't carry the day.

RAF 9 hours ago

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SteezyMcFly 9 hours ago

I hope they not only find cases of election fraud but at such a massive amount that they have no choice but come up with a better and updated system. We do our elections in such a outdated way that fraud is not only easy to pull off (Election, voter or otherwise) it renders the system obsolete. We need a truly bipartisan committee to set up new standards for the age we are in and focus on technology and cyber security. With the new Spaceforce and the vision of moving beyond our single planet race, we can't expect to be using primitive methods of choosing representatives or leaders. jmo

Jessica Ramer 9 hours ago

I personally doubt that there was ballot fraud but the fix was in against Trump from the beginning--the media not covering Biden corruption stories, taking Trump quotes out of context, largely ignoring the good things Trump did--not starting another war, sentencing reform--and ignoring the problems with Biden--his votes for the Iraq war and the 1994 crime bill, the foreign policy disasters under the Obama-Biden administration.

Whenever I heard yet another "Trump is the spawn of Satan" story, I always wondered how Bush--who started a WAR based on lies, killing untold numbers of people and orphaning nearly a million kids--got away with so little scrutiny and is being repackaged as an elder statesman.

Gary Bebop 8 hours ago

The prestige media and their Big Tech accessories never gave credence to Trump's accomplishments and never ceased to drum for his ejection during the past four years. We have endured four years of a demonic-inspired fury and lies about Trump, a campaign abounding in deceit, vilification of the president's family, glittery celebrity scorn, disinformation of spellbinding proportion, pejorative auguries, and malevolent plottings. We didn't believe the frame-up then, why should we believe it now?

Time4Truth johnhenry 6 hours ago

It was successful in 2000.

Most people don't know about the fraud and the real reason Gore didn't win Fla. The RNC, Florida elections officials and others paid almost $4 million for a voter list that kept thousands of mostly Black voters from casting their ballots.

Florida was the only state that paid a private company to purge the voter file of ineligible voters, in effect allowing a private company to make the administrative decision of who is not eligible to vote.

The first firm hired in 1998 to purge the voter rolls was Professional Service Inc., which charged $5,700 for the job. Later the same year, the state placed an open request for tenders to bid for the job. The contract was assigned to DBT Online, despite the fact that its bid had the highest price. The state gave the job to DBT for a first-year fee of US $2,317,800; total fees eventually reached US $4 million.

At first, Florida specified only exact matches on names, birthdates and genders to identify voters as felons. However, state records reveal a memo dated March 1999 from Emmett "Bucky" Mitchell, a lawyer for the state elections office who was supervising the felon purge, asking DBT to loosen its criteria for acceptable matches. When DBT representatives warned Mitchell that this would yield a large proportion of false positives, Mitchell's reply was that it would be up to each county elections supervisor to deal with the problem. In a February 2001 phone conversation with the BBC's London studios, ChoicePoint vice-president James Lee said that the state "wanted there to be more names than were actually verified as being a convicted felon"

On 17 April 2001, James Lee testified before the McKinney panel that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons). His testimony indicates the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match and also include name reversals (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.

"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, the state's response to the company′s suggestion was "Forget about it".

"The people who worked on this (for DBT) are very adamant ... they told them what would happen", said Lee. "The state expected the county supervisors to be the fail-safe." Lee said his company will never again get involved in cleansing voting rolls. "We are not confident any of the methods used today can guarantee legal voters will not be wrongfully denied the right to vote", Lee told a group of Atlanta-area black lawmakers in March 2001

In February 2002, the NAACP and four other groups filed suit against Harris (NAACP v. Harris), the county elections supervisor and a former state election chief. The lawsuit cites the state, several counties and the contractor over procedures for voter registration, voter lists and balloting. The suit charges that Black voters were disenfranchised during the 2000 presidential election, and argued that Florida was in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the US Constitution's 14th Amendment. The parties reached a settlement wherein ChoicePoint will reprocess the voter file on the plaintiffs' terms and donate $75,000 to the NAACP

https://www.usccr.gov/pubs/...

Siarlys Jenkins 6 hours ago

This is a fantasy, pure and simple. The notion that Milwaukee is dominated by a Tammany style machine is ludicrous. The mayor has to run as an individual candidate, and the city council has no political cohesion. The voting process has multiple safeguards, is utterly transparent and open, and everybody who wants to observe has ample opportunity to do so.

You are indulging in sour grapes, pure and simple. "Wah, my man lost, no fair, cheater, cheater, cheater." Well, you're a good match for your failed champion.

I don't like Biden or Harris, but I'd vote for a yellow dog to get Trump out. The Dems should shuffle off stage right over the next four years with the shame that this squeaker is the best they could pull off against a dream opponent like Donald Trump. It should have been a blow-out, but the Dems didn't have it in them.

michael Lavine 6 hours ago

you are really grasping at straws here man. The chances of finding any substantial election fraud are nil and would be inconsequential, not to mention that you are assuming that this unsubstantiated, alleged "fraud" is done only by democrats.

Biden won with over 4 million more votes than Trump. and more than enough electoral votes. This so called fraud would have to been orchestrated over multiple states. You should be happy, the Republicans actually did quite well this election. but instead you scream "you cheated" like a child as your fascist fantasy disintegrates like the wicked witch of the west.

northernobserver michael Lavine 6 hours ago

At a minimum the software thing needs to be verified. Even a democratic socialist wants legitimacy and transparency. No?

michael Lavine northernobserver 5 hours ago

Trump has every right to pursue all the legal challenges that he can come up with, and knowing him, Im sure he will, but he lost by a significant margin and his chances of unearthing some huge game changing bag of ballots are slim to none, and you know the joke, slim just left town. His whole strategy is centered around delegitimizing the voting process and its very effective. And by the way, I am not a socialist. I've run my own business for over 30 years and I hate paying taxes as much as the next guy. It's freaky that the core republican strategy is to label all democrats "socialists".

[Nov 08, 2020] The democrats apparently used COVID as the way to change the rules.

Nov 08, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

EliteCommInc. Gary Rosenberg 14 hours ago

Laugh. It is entirely possible that one sees and smells something foul while at the same time not being an "acolyte".

This was as the democrats apparently have been spouting since they hit the books to use COVID as a means to change the rules. I am not prone to conspiracies. But after the Russia Impeachment attempt, the Ukrainian Impeachment attempt, the near public hysterics that have fed both of those investigations, accusations that the executive threatened a woman to keep silent that also fell apart and backfired, the response to Justice Kavenaugh . . . the machinations at the behavior at the border and most peculiar that the people of Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia would support planned riots . . .

And then recalling how the system went down in Iowa --- there's plenty of reason to be suspicious. But overall, the response here has been reasonable. And if no case is evident, so be it.

But one this is clear, people do conspire to engage in getting there way. Who would have thought that they the Russians could actually implant a chess board center piece in Washington's capitol, in the white house no less . . . based on uncorroborated accusations by members of the FBI, CIA, State department and Sec Clinton and her allies -- who would have thought it . . . .

-- apparently democrats and lots of liberals.

Even some writers here at TAC believed it. You are a humorous fellow. Election fraud and error is not a myth in the US, and usually, one shrugs it off at least republicans generally -- say next time.

But after fours years of actual conspiracy by the opposition, it might be a good idea to check if the same machines tested in Iowa that suggested a first husband was in order after voting there . . . . made there way around the country.

Wydra 13 hours ago

If the Democrats were capable of cheating and rigging elections as you are baselessly speculating why would they stop at the Presidential race and not swing the Senate leftward as well? There are two very close races in Georgia that are heading for a runoff in January.
Trump and his legal team are frantically throwing spaghetti against the wall and hoping something sticks.
Poorly researched.

butseriouslynow 12 hours ago

This was really not this author's best effort.

The fact that Republicans either won or advanced in practically every race except for President/VP should raise some questions in their minds.

kouroi 12 hours ago

I am surprised to not see any allegation that China somehow is interfering...

Blood Alcohol kouroi 12 hours ago

Or the "Iranians" sending messages to the people to urge them to "vote for" the gangster in the WH!!!

Argon kouroi 10 hours ago

That was last week. They moved on to the next shiny thing.

Scott Hanley 11 hours ago

A note from that pesky reality:

[Nov 08, 2020] Was it an election, or a coup detat?

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Moreover, Biden administration probably will quickly abandon all its election promises in domestic policy area and will kick the neoliberal can down the road. After all Biden is a classic neoliberal and he is as far from Warren and Sanders, as one can get. ..."
"... And legitimacy of election is much bigger question than the silly question about who among two factions of neoliberal oligarchy won. Because this is an important factor that holds the society together. ..."
"... A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. Whomsoever is certified by Congress cannot truthfully say they represent 'the nation'. Consensus is fractured, and it is difficult to see any leadership that can bring Americans together as a 'united people'. ..."
"... If Dems really abuse ballot harvesting to the extent Trump supporters suspect, that will be very detrimental to the USA as a society. And that's much bigger negative factor than any positive effect from Biden's victory. ..."
"... Marc Elias , the lawyer for Dems in Nevada, efforts to expand mail-in voting and revoke prohibition of ballot harvesting in Nevada look really suspicious. ..."
"... Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was some kind of a "Plan B" already decided on before the election. ..."
"... When you fill up the mail in ballot for your demented grandmother this is a fraud though on a micro scale. But multiply it by thousand. Do it in nursing homes. Then do it in community centers in minority areas and ghettos for people who would never vote. You incentivize them and twist their arms. This is no different than ballot stuffing but impossible to be proven as a fraud, yet everybody knows about it... ..."
"... While I do not believe that election fraud changed the outcome (see above), the real question now is "Was it an election, or a coup detat?" ..."
Nov 08, 2020 | angrybearblog.com

likbez,

Run75441,

You are simply naive.

I am firmly in "anybody but Trump" camp. IMHO Trump lost 5% of his share among white male voters. Because he betrayed his election promises to them. That's why he lost. As for Trump personally, all else are details.

But I see huge issues with how 2020 elections was conducted. And not only I.

You need also to understand that the actual difference between Biden administration and Trump administration will be positive, but pretty small. Meet the New Boss. Same as the Old Boss And in some areas on foreign policy (Ukraine) Biden will be definitely worse. Another negative factor is that Biden victory legitimized Russia-gate. Which means that his win legitimized neo-McCarthyism.

Moreover, Biden administration probably will quickly abandon all its election promises in domestic policy area and will kick the neoliberal can down the road. After all Biden is a classic neoliberal and he is as far from Warren and Sanders, as one can get.

But all this are gory details.

What really matter now is whether the elections legitimized the return to power of globalists, or this is yet another scam similar to Russia-gate.

And legitimacy of election is much bigger question than the silly question about who among two factions of neoliberal oligarchy won. Because this is an important factor that holds the society together.

That's why all color revolutions start with the frontal assault on the legitimacy of elections in the first place. Now Trump campaign will be doing that. And this is hugely negative. As Alastair Crooke noted:

A President may emerge, but it will not be, as it were, a settled one: He or she cannot make claim to the 'will of the majority'. Whomsoever is certified by Congress cannot truthfully say they represent 'the nation'. Consensus is fractured, and it is difficult to see any leadership that can bring Americans together as a 'united people'.

If Dems really abuse ballot harvesting to the extent Trump supporters suspect, that will be very detrimental to the USA as a society. And that's much bigger negative factor than any positive effect from Biden's victory.

For example in Nevada many workers moved out of state due to the collapse of casino industry. But formally you cannot vote if you moved out of the state over 30 days prior to the balloting. Absent of a system of authentication of residency and identification, we have essentially a honor system – an approach that no casino would allow even at the nickel slots section. In this sense Marc Elias , the lawyer for Dems in Nevada, efforts to expand mail-in voting and revoke prohibition of ballot harvesting in Nevada look really suspicious.

Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was some kind of a "Plan B" already decided on before the election.

When you fill up the mail in ballot for your demented grandmother this is a fraud though on a micro scale. But multiply it by thousand. Do it in nursing homes. Then do it in community centers in minority areas and ghettos for people who would never vote. You incentivize them and twist their arms. This is no different than ballot stuffing but impossible to be proven as a fraud, yet everybody knows about it...

Charges of ballot harvesting are extremely difficult to prove, but indirect signs suggests that it did have place much in Chicago major Daley fashion.

While I do not believe that election fraud changed the outcome (see above), the real question now is "Was it an election, or a coup detat?"

[Nov 08, 2020] Trump campaign claims Nevada whistleblower witnessed 'intentional criminal conduct' during vote processing in Clark County -- RT USA News

Nov 08, 2020 | www.rt.com
Get short URL Trump campaign claims Nevada whistleblower witnessed 'intentional criminal conduct' during vote processing in Clark County An election worker is shown at the Clark County Election Center in North Las Vegas, Nevada, US November 6, 2020. © REUTERS/Steve Marcus 28 Follow RT on RT Lawyers for the Trump campaign say an election worker in Clark County, Nevada was instructed to process ballots he suspected were invalid, describing his sworn affidavit as evidence of criminal conduct.

The unidentified poll worker blew the whistle after claiming he was told by a supervisor to tabulate votes he believed needed signature verification, According to Fox News, he also claims that higher-ups said he should ignore any discrepancies with addresses while validating ballots.

The election worker provided a sworn affidavit, which has been forwarded to the Department of Justice. Fox reported that a lawyer for the Trump campaign said the worker's testimony was damning.

The affidavit makes clear that we're not dealing with oversights or sloppiness. This was intentional criminal conduct.

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The incendiary allegations come after a federal judge shot down a lawsuit brought by Republican lawyers that claimed Clark County was "improperly" using its signature-verification machines to check votes. In its ruling, the court said there was scant evidence to suggest the machines were malfunctioning, and questioned whether a human poll worker could do a better job, local media reported .

Nevada is one of many states in which Donald Trump supporters have claimed they were disenfranchised at the voting booth. Media outlets called the state for Joe Biden on Saturday, hours after the Democrat was crowned the projected winner of the election.

ALSO ON RT.COM Trump files lawsuit alleging in-person votes in Arizona might have been 'incorrectly rejected' due to poll workers' actions

In a statement issued on November 4, the Nevada Republican Party said it had received "thousands" of complaints regarding issues that occurred during Election Day. It also claimed there had been "a number of mail ballots turned in to Clark County Department of Elections that are being processed without meaningful observation."

As of Sunday, the state has tallied around 92 percent of cast ballots, according to the Associated Press.

Donald Trump continues to maintain that alleged invalid mail-in votes tipped the scales in Biden's favor. His campaign has filed a series of lawsuits to challenge the processing and counting of ballots in several battleground states.

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[Nov 08, 2020] Questions, questions

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J J Pettigrew , 19 minutes ago

* Pelosi was warning a month agoTrump wouldnt leave office without a fight.....what did she know? The polls suggested it was no contest. The election was to be cut and dried. Clear mandate. Did she know the polls were rigged? Did she know the 11th hour ballot deluge would be delivered "if needed" in the key states?

* Why was Biden not interested in the vote counting procedures on the night of Nov 3 when he was behind in key states? Wouldnt he be calling for audits and recounts? Or did he know the "posse" was coming?

* If clear cut fraud is discovered and in necessary levels to recount and maybe alter the results, then the civil unrest dogs will be released in Soros funded levels never seen before.

[Nov 08, 2020] Big rally of STOP THE STEAL activists considering it happened at short notice. Took place in Michigan's capitol, Lansing, Saturday, Nov. 7

Nov 08, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


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Urfa Man , 7 hours ago

Big rally of STOP THE STEAL activists considering it happened at short notice. Took place in Michigan's capitol, Lansing, Saturday, Nov. 7

3 minute Ruptly news Video

USA: Hundreds of Trump supporters call election fraud before Lansing protests turn violent
https://youtu.be/dxFkhsr_iOU

[Nov 08, 2020] Michigan Vote Fraud Overturned by Hand Count Social Media Suppresses Vote Fraud Information

November 7, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Democrat Election Fraud in Michigan Overturned by Hand Count

The Fraud was possibly the work of the vote-altering technology but is being called "human error"

https://www.rt.com/usa/505967-michigan-antrim-county-error-trump-biden

Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube are preventing any mention of the widespread Democrat vote fraud -- a complete flip from Russiagate that social media hyped for years

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/505911-social-media-election-integrity-russiagate

[Nov 07, 2020] US elections, for decades, have been about which competing faction of the corporate uni-party in Congress gets to call the shots. Trump is his own corporate party, which stunned both the Demicans and Republocrat mafias. He has cut in on their territory and will pay the price

Highly recommended!
Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Curmudgeon says: November 7, 2020 at 11:34 pm GMT • 1.2 hours ago 200 Words ↑ @Carlton Meyer

A little tidbit for you. A couple of weeks ago, a Facebook (on which I seldom post) "friend" shared a TDS video about Trump "conspiracy theories". I replied saying conspiracies exist, identifying them is the problem. His response basically challenged me to "prove it". I provided several links, including a couple of court cases, showing that the media ignores what does not fit their narrative. I closed by saying the TDS crowd is delusional. Trump is different in kind, not substance.

Today, I was notified that a different "friend" had shared a video. It was another mindless rant about Trump and his lies about election fraud. Facebook has blocked my ability to comment. But hey, there's no such thing as Big Brother. I wasn't "supporting" Trump, only pointing out the narrative is managed.

I really don't understand either side of the Trump thing. US elections, for decades, have been about which competing faction of the corporate uni-party in Congress gets to call the shots. Trump is his own corporate party, which stunned both the Demicans and Republocrat Inc.s. He has cut in on their territory and will pay the price for not being compliant. To return to the vernacular of my misspent youth – same shit, different pile.

[Nov 07, 2020] Dems clearly pushed states for main-in voting and to allow votes harversting

Notable quotes:
"... "We ask that your office and the office of the Nevada Attorney General immediately announce a suspension of prosecutions under this statute for all elections for which mail-in balloting will be the primary means of voting in the state," Elias said. ..."
"... At the same time, Elias called for Nevada to stop throwing out ballots when signatures on voters' ballots appear different from those on voters' registrations, saying "lay election officials have never had the necessary expertise" to make an accurate determination. ..."
"... Elias also demanded that Nevada "require mail-in ballots be sent to all registered voters in Nevada, not just those in an active status." Elias asserted that state election law doesn't distinguish between the two categories of voters. ..."
Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

ThreeCranes , says: November 7, 2020 at 10:27 am GMT • 7.2 hours ago

From the NYPost,

"A prominent Democratic lawyer who represented Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign is threatening to sue the state of Nevada unless it immediately suspends prosecutions for ballot harvesting before the June 9 primary, among a slew of other demands, according to a letter obtained by Fox News on Tuesday.

Marc Elias, now representing the Nevada Democratic Party, also called for a substantial expansion to in-person voting access in the upcoming primary -- though just days ago, he said it was a "national disgrace" that Wisconsin was moving ahead with in-person voting amid the coronavirus pandemic. In both cases, he cited health concerns.

Democrats had feared that low turnout in Wisconsin would hurt their chances, while they have a more optimistic outlook in Nevada.

READ ELIAS' FULL LETTER . HOW BALLOT HARVESTING HELPED DEMS ROUT GOP IN CALIFORNIA

Writing on April 10 to Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, Elias first took aim at Nevada Revised Statutes section 293.330(4), which prohibits ballot harvesting and permits only certain individuals, like family members, to return ballots. Ballot harvesting, or the practice of allowing political operatives and others to collect voters' ballots and turn them in en masse to polling stations, has drawn bipartisan concerns of fraud from election watchers.

In his letter, Elias argued that "many Nevada voters will not be able to return their mail-in ballots themselves and do not have family members – or are separated from these family members because of social distancing – who can do so for them."

"We ask that your office and the office of the Nevada Attorney General immediately announce a suspension of prosecutions under this statute for all elections for which mail-in balloting will be the primary means of voting in the state," Elias said.

At the same time, Elias called for Nevada to stop throwing out ballots when signatures on voters' ballots appear different from those on voters' registrations, saying "lay election officials have never had the necessary expertise" to make an accurate determination.

"In an environment where the vast majority of Nevada voters will be casting a mail-in ballot for the first time, there is the real possibility that hundreds of thousands of Nevada voters could be disenfranchised due to the arbitrary determinations of these untrained officials," Elias wrote. In the alternative, Elias said that those found to have mismatched or missing signatures should be given an additional two weeks, instead of the normal one-week deadline, to clarify the matter.

Elias also demanded that Nevada "require mail-in ballots be sent to all registered voters in Nevada, not just those in an active status." Elias asserted that state election law doesn't distinguish between the two categories of voters.

Republicans have argued that many states fail to adequately clean up their voter rolls. Last year, California was forced to remove 1.5 million ineligible voters after a court settlement last year when California's rolls showed a registration of 112 percent.

Further, Elias urged that Nevada "require more than just one in-person vote center per county in the State's most populous counties as well as those with geographically distant population centers."

"Nevada voters have a proud tradition of voting in person either during the early voting period or on election day," Elias wrote. "Having only a single in-person location in each county poses certain risks and hardships to voters in various circumstances -- voters in dense urban communities, for example, will be forced into dangerously overcrowded polling places, while rural voters will have to travel unreasonable distances just to cast their ballots."

On April 6, though, Elias called it a "national disgrace" that "may well cost lives" when the Wisconsin Supreme Court blocked an order to shut down in-person voting there. "No one should have to chose between voting and their health," Elias wrote on Twitter.

Elias, among other things, is known for his role hiring private research firm Fusion GPS to probe Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign – efforts which resulted in the discredited anti-Trump dossier. (my bold)

Elias did not respond to a request for comment from Fox News ..

WHAT'S BALLOT HARVESTING?

Elias did appear to be citing health concerns in both cases, however -- first by criticizing Wisconsin for having in-person voting at all, and later by arguing that limited polling locations In Nevada would force voters into overcrowded spaces.

But Walters pointed to the ballot-harvesting request as part of a bigger scheme.

Walters added: "Democrats' entire strategy is to legalize ballot harvesting nationwide, and this letter proves it. Sending far-left activists door-to-door to collect ballots not only jeopardizes people's health, it threatens the security of their ballot. The last thing our country needs during a time of crisis is to weaken confidence in our elections, but that is exactly what would happen if Democrats get their way."

In 2018, despite holding substantial leads on Election Day, many Republican candidates in California saw their advantage shrink, and then disappear, as late-arriving Democratic votes were counted in the weeks following the election. Many observers pointed to the Democrats' use of ballot harvesting as a key to their success in the elections. (my bold)

"Anecdotally there was a lot of evidence that ballot harvesting was going on," Neal Kelley, the registrar for voters in Southern California's Orange County, told Fox News.

In Orange County – once seen as a Republican stronghold in the state – every House seat went to a Democrat after an unprecedented "250,000" vote-by-mail drop-offs were counted, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

"People were carrying in stacks of 100 and 200 of them. We had had multiple people calling to ask if these people were allowed to do this," Kelley said.

California had recently legalized ballot harvesting ahead of the election. In 2019, a GOP operative in North Carolina was arrested related to alleged ballot harvesting, which is prohibited in that state.

"GET RID OF BALLOT HARVESTING, IT IS RAMPANT WITH FRAUD," President Trump wrote on Twitter on Tuesday morning. "THE USA MUST HAVE VOTER I.D., THE ONLY WAY TO GET AN HONEST COUNT!"

ThreeCranes , says: November 7, 2020 at 11:45 am GMT • 5.9 hours ago

From Wiki,

"Marc Erik Elias (born February 1, 1969) is an American attorney specializing in election law, voting rights and redistricting. He is a partner at Perkins Coie and head of the firm's Political Law practice. He served as general counsel for the Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign and John Kerry 2004 presidential campaign.

Early life and education
Born to a Jewish family in New York City "

[Nov 07, 2020] Twitter and Facebook are smacking down all questioning of US election integrity. What about 4 years of Russiagate by Helen Buyniski

Notable quotes:
"... Social media is clamping down on posts questioning US election results' "integrity," despite troubling anomalies. Yet questioning election integrity defined the establishment narrative for four years of relentless Russiagating. ..."
"... Twitter has been steadily tightening its " election integrity " policy since 2016 in response to allegations that social media had served as a breeding ground for " Russian bots " and trolls who somehow convinced a massive swathe of the American electorate to vote for Republican candidate Donald Trump in that year's election. The platform now vows to remove " unverified claims " about election fraud or meddling, now that four years of unverified claims about Russian meddling have succeeded in making many ordinary Americans fearful of what would happen to their precious vote if censors weren't waiting in the wings to smother wrongthink. ..."
"... Facebook, too, has refashioned itself as an election integrity crusader using the Russian meddling claims as a springboard. In a plot twist that would be rejected from a Hollywood script for being too on the nose, its "election integrity" expert Anna Makanju previously worked as a special policy adviser for Europe and Eurasia to former Vice President (and current Democratic presidential challenger) Joe Biden. She's also a senior nonresident fellow at the pro-war NATO-backed think tank the Atlantic Council, which has partnered with Facebook since 2018 to "defend democracy" – again, based on unfounded allegations that the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. ..."
Nov 07, 2020 | www.rt.com

Social media is clamping down on posts questioning US election results' "integrity," despite troubling anomalies. Yet questioning election integrity defined the establishment narrative for four years of relentless Russiagating.

Twitter, Facebook and YouTube's crackdown on speculation about voter fraud, " election meddling ," and other " information intended to undermine public confidence in an election or other civic process " (as Twitter put it ) represents a stunning about-face from the way they fostered – even bolstered – speculation about alleged Russian interference in the 2016 vote.

ALSO ON RT.COM FBI director says Russia is engaged in 'very active efforts' to sink Biden & rehashes 2016 claims but provides no evidence

In what is perhaps the ultimate irony, the current level of election meddling by the social media establishment – which outstrips anything the troll farm Internet Research Agency pulled off in 2016 by several orders of magnitude – would be impossible without the hysteria ginned up on these platforms by journalists casting doubt over the integrity of that year's election. If not for four years of Russiagate, social media platforms would never have gotten away with choking off the flow of information about 2020's election on the level they are.

Twitter has been steadily tightening its " election integrity " policy since 2016 in response to allegations that social media had served as a breeding ground for " Russian bots " and trolls who somehow convinced a massive swathe of the American electorate to vote for Republican candidate Donald Trump in that year's election. The platform now vows to remove " unverified claims " about election fraud or meddling, now that four years of unverified claims about Russian meddling have succeeded in making many ordinary Americans fearful of what would happen to their precious vote if censors weren't waiting in the wings to smother wrongthink.

Narrative control tightens as panicked anti-Trump aristocrats crank up media gaslight machines

Facebook, too, has refashioned itself as an election integrity crusader using the Russian meddling claims as a springboard. In a plot twist that would be rejected from a Hollywood script for being too on the nose, its "election integrity" expert Anna Makanju previously worked as a special policy adviser for Europe and Eurasia to former Vice President (and current Democratic presidential challenger) Joe Biden. She's also a senior nonresident fellow at the pro-war NATO-backed think tank the Atlantic Council, which has partnered with Facebook since 2018 to "defend democracy" – again, based on unfounded allegations that the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election.

YouTube has acted in a similar vein, forcing " authoritative sources " down users' throats (when if they wanted to watch CNN, they would turn on their TV, not log on to YouTube) and slapping thought-babysitting warning labels on content related to controversial issues.

All three outlets have labeled " state-run media " and suppressed its reach – in many cases making loopholes for media run by the US or its client states, and making bogus claims about " editorial independence " as if the heads of state of Russia, Iran, China, and other wrongthink-generating states are breathing down the necks of individual writers. Yet even privately owned US media outlets are now muzzled when the stories they publish purport to tell unwanted truths about the anointed one – Biden – or his son, whose laptop initiated the most shockingly heavy-handed censorship episode of the pre-election season. The coverup, as they say, is always worse than the crime.

Thanks to a cross-platform clampdown on questioning election results, no matter how dodgy they may seem, the president of the US himself cannot call the attention of his millions of followers to allegations of voter fraud in states that have become key battlegrounds in the 2020 contest: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Half of his last dozen tweets are hidden behind a 'warning' that prevent users from commenting on or retweeting them. Even a three-word caps-lock outburst like " STOP THE FRAUD " has been declared too sensitive for users' eyes.

Twitter, Facebook and YouTube declared it their mission to fight " misinformation " amid the fog of doubts about election integrity that ensued following Trump's 2016 upset. Their drift in the past four years has made it abundantly clear – as has the revelation that upwards of 95 percent of political contributions made by employees of all three companies went to Democrats – that they are not neutral, nonpartisan onlookers, but willing soldiers in the Democratic Party's information war. The obviousness with which they go about fighting it only inflames the president's supporters, who – after days of having tweets deleted, being locked out of their accounts, and otherwise being suppressed – are ready to go to war themselves.

Trump's reign has proved the US president is merely a figurehead. Does it really matter who wins the vote?

And that's the point. Given how little daylight there really would be between the policies of the two presidents, it's clear all this divide-and-conquer pageantry is aimed more at the candidates' supporters – many of whom have divergent views on where the US should go. Nevertheless, if those supporters were to peacefully compare notes on what they see as the problems with American society, they might realize they have more in common with each other than they do with the leaders of their respective parties. Therefore, they must be kept at each other's throats if the ruling establishment is to survive. And, given the looks of 2020's election results, that ruling class will enjoy a long, healthy life.

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Kiro919 7 hours ago

No-one would vote for Dorsey or Zuckerbum - yet they have incredible power and influence. Close them down and punish them.

Daniel Fernald Kiro919 5 hours ago

Boycott, divest, sanction (BDS).

Count_Cash Kiro919 5 hours ago

Tech dictators - we know what is going to happen to them really. US is closing mouths now, censoring even their president. Free speech is dead in the US. No allegations allowed, every dissenting voice labelled as not to be listened to, every search result censored, every non conforming view attacked - everyone with a mind knows they are looking at a US which is an oppressive regime only permitting a single party view. They have run a fraudulent election to protect that regime!

UshouldKnow 3 hours ago

Google, Facebook and Twitter are public forums and as such should not be allowed to censor free speech which is guaranteed in our constitution. This should be taken up by the Supreme Court.

Jack the Beanstalk 7 hours ago

just a few years ago Maduro was almost ousted in a coup by Guaido and special interests in USA. The same thing is happening now its a failed coup attempt again sponsored by richest 1%

a325 6 hours ago

"Social media is clamping down on posts questioning US election results' "integrity," despite troubling anomalies. Yet questioning election integrity defined the establishment narrative for four years of relentless Russiagating." The hypocrisy is right there

Jimmy_The_Cop 3 hours ago

Donald Trump should be congratulated for saving us from Hilary Clinton and staying alive for nearly four years (with his own private security of course). Well Done Donald! Now have some fun in the next couple months and pardon everyone under sun! By the way, censorship is not new in America. Read the Warren Report, the 9-11 Commission Report and countless other "official" narratives during the Great American Century.

shadow1369 5 hours ago

It's everywhere. The bbc never fails to describe reports of ballot fraud as 'unsubstantiated' despite never once having used the word when reporting endlessly on he Russaiagate hoax. As for Biden corruption, they simply refused to mention that at all.

Ivan DeGaulle shadow1369 1 hour ago I love the 'false rumours' line.. because, if it was false? it's not a rumour but a lie! Reply SavantMan 3 hours ago

I don't know why it's so hard for people to simply stop using these platforms. The more people use them, the more empowered these corrupt platforms are. I just don't get it. Why would anyone still use such corrupt and biased platforms is truly mind boggling.

UshouldKnow SavantMan 3 hours ago

The people are brainwashed by the MSM and the alphabet agencies which have a monopoly on the "news." As a result the masses have no idea what's really going on. Many are addicted to Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al just as they are to sports and other distractions. And what are the alternatives? The 3 platforms referenced above are so ubiquitous they have no competition. I agree people should wean themselves away from them but it isn't easy. That being said, "My Space" is not a thing anymore, so it is possible, but first people have to wake up.

Avaron 3 hours ago

Trump's worst mistake was staying with Twitter. Now they keep on censoring his tweets. He should have moved to a different platform when he became the president, then advertised it on twitter. So people would come to that platform instead of twitter.

muahaha 4 hours ago

Maybe, but anyway, he's done after the evil things he did, not before. And everyone knew what he was doing. That's the pity.

Daffyduck011 7 hours ago

We dont need anymore examples. Facebook Twitter YouTube Google and the MSM have an agenda. It is globalism. Trump was a nationalist and a Republican. So if you are a socialist and a globalist you should use these entities. If you are not you must boycott these entities.

Daffyduck011 3 hours ago

It's not socialism, you need to crack a book. What this is: Bolshevism (Zionist-sponsored)

shadow1369 Daffyduck011 5 hours ago

US tech giants are corporate fascists, the exact opposite of socialists.

[Nov 07, 2020] What Happens In Vegas May Not Stay In Vegas- Why The Nevada Challenge Could Be Important To The Presidential Election by Jonathan Turley,

Notable quotes:
"... The referral is substantially less than the "10,000" referenced earlier but the underlying allegation is still important. The early concern for many of us was that the system established in Clark County would be difficult to review for violations due to how the tabulation was handled and the record preserved. ..."
"... Many states like Nevada are relying on notoriously outdated voter lists and applying fairly lax standards for confirming the identity of voters for mail-in ballots. In Nevada, this is a particular concern because many workers moved out of the state due to the pandemic's impact on the casino industry. ..."
"... "Gonzo reporter" Hunter S. Thompson once said that "For a loser Vegas is the meanest town on earth." The question for a court may be whether it is equally unkind to a winner if he cannot prove what he won. ..."
Nov 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Jonathan Turley,

It turns out that some things that happen in Vegas may not stay in Vegas . . . like voting.

The Republican Party in the Silver State is now arguing that thousands of votes in the close presidential election were cast by workers who moved out of the state or even by deceased individuals. Various voters reported their deceased relatives receiving live ballots in the mail. Now, the Nevada Republican Party has sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department alleging at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud in the battleground state. The referral is substantially less than the "10,000" referenced earlier but the underlying allegation is still important. The early concern for many of us was that the system established in Clark County would be difficult to review for violations due to how the tabulation was handled and the record preserved.

The allegations over ineligible voting were raised before Election Day. Many states like Nevada are relying on notoriously outdated voter lists and applying fairly lax standards for confirming the identity of voters for mail-in ballots. In Nevada, this is a particular concern because many workers moved out of the state due to the pandemic's impact on the casino industry.

You cannot vote if you moved out of the state over 30 days prior to the balloting. The problem is the accuracy of state voting and residency records in showing such changes shortly before an election. Absent a system of authentication of residency and identification, it would be a system based on the honor system – an approach that no casino would allow even at the nickel slots section.

As courts deal with a flurry of lawsuits in various states, I have been focusing on the allegations in Nevada of thousands of ineligible or even deceased voters. That is the type of systemic failure that could cloud results in not just the Silver State but other states. Nevada was one of the states that I identified before the election as one of three states that I was watching the most closely for election challenges. However, the problems raised in Nevada could raise concerns with shared elements to various states from Michigan to Pennsylvania. The reliance on questionable voter lists and the lack of authentication systems were raised months ago. The legal problem is not simply that such systems may allow for large numbers of ineligible votes but that they would not allow sufficient review of ballots to resolve such questions.

The criminal referral is substantially less than the "10,000" referenced earlier but the underlying allegation is still important. The early concern for many of us was that the system established in Clark County would be difficult to review for violations due to how the record was being preserved.

The Republicans are claiming that this is just the first set of identified voters with alleged ineligibility. Conversely, Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak, a Democrat, issued a statement arguing the state was "widely recognized as being a leader in election administration," and that he had "the utmost confidence in the abilities of Nevada's local election officials and Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske to accurately count every eligible vote cast in the Silver State." We have no basis to rule in or rule out either claim.

I have repeatedly stated that we must not make assumptions on either side. My concern is that it is not clear how a court could review these ballots in Clark County if it agrees that there appears to be systemic problems. If the court believes that thousands votes illegally, that lack of a record could prove the undoing of the state officials. At some point, the burden can shift and courts demand proof that a problem was not systemic. If they cannot, the question will be raised whether the same vulnerability existed in other states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Georgia. A court could be presented with a decision of when the unknowable becomes the unacceptable. If the court believes that thousands of unlawful votes were cases and the ultimate number impossible to confirm, the only certain way to address a systemic failure would be a special election – a prospect that few judges would relish and even fewer would seriously consider.

What we know is that we are rapidly running out of runway to deal with this problem. The options range from a detailed review of ballots to the remote possibility of a new election. All of those options take time as we saw in 2000 with the Florida recount. If the time runs out, we could have an election with lingering doubt over the legitimacy of the vote count in states like Nevada – a poisonous prospect for any democratic process.

"Gonzo reporter" Hunter S. Thompson once said that "For a loser Vegas is the meanest town on earth." The question for a court may be whether it is equally unkind to a winner if he cannot prove what he won.

[Nov 07, 2020] The folks who firmly believe that Putin rigged the 2016 election now would have us believe that Democrats would not do anything to cheat.

Notable quotes:
"... There's huge uncertainty about how the election will turn out. What looked like a certain Trump victory when I went to bed on Tuesday night suddenly turned in Biden's favor in Democrat-run swing states where there appears to have been massive fraud -- unprecendented stopping of vote counting on Tuesday night, vote-dumps in the middle of the night in Wisconsin and Michigan in which 100% of the votes went to Biden, preventing poll watchers from actually seeing what was going on in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Nevada, and I am sure much more. ..."
"... ... Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was a Plan B already decided on before the election. ..."
Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

There's huge uncertainty about how the election will turn out. What looked like a certain Trump victory when I went to bed on Tuesday night suddenly turned in Biden's favor in Democrat-run swing states where there appears to have been massive fraud -- unprecendented stopping of vote counting on Tuesday night, vote-dumps in the middle of the night in Wisconsin and Michigan in which 100% of the votes went to Biden, preventing poll watchers from actually seeing what was going on in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Nevada, and I am sure much more.

The folks who firmly believe that Putin rigged the 2016 election and studiously ignore how supposedly neutral platforms like Google, Twitter, and Facebook have tilted their coverage in favor of the Democrats, now would have us believe that Democrats would not do anything to cheat.

... Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was a Plan B already decided on before the election.

[Nov 07, 2020] No Surrender -- At Least Not Yet by DECLAN LEARY

Nov 07, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The old guard wants us to lay down and take it, but this election is far for over. It's time to fight, and Trump is our man.

Mitt Romney would have conceded by now. John McCain would have conceded Tuesday night. George Bush would have called it quits, and then invaded Iraq for good measure. Thank God in heaven for Donald J. Trump.

Speaking late Thursday from the White House, President Trump predicted that, if all legal votes (and only legal votes) were counted, they would show that he has won the election. Over the past few days, former Vice President Biden has consistently made similar claims, without the caveat that votes must be legally cast. As has become the norm when conservatives voice concerns over a questionable election, the president's observations and forecast were quickly "fact-checked" by the mainstream media and censored by Big Tech platforms -- while Biden's went unchecked.

The facts, we are told, show a clear Biden victory. Any suggestion to the contrary, any attempt to investigate reports of Democratic misconduct, is dismissed as right-wing conspiracizing, or the petulant protestations of a sorry bunch of sore losers. (Russiagate, it seems, has been memory-holed.) The decent thing, they say, would be concession -- take the numbers at face value and call it a day. To his great credit, it looks like Trump will do no such thing.

This election has essentially come down to six states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Of these six, only Arizona and Nevada really remain question marks. Michigan and Wisconsin have already been called for Biden by most sources, and Pennsylvania and Georgia are expected to follow close behind. Even if Arizona and Nevada both went for Trump in the end -- the latter seems likely, while the former is a long shot -- victory in the other four would secure Biden a comfortable electoral college win at 289. It can hardly be ignored that the major blue cities in each of these states -- Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee -- are all dominated by strong, old-school, Tammany-style machines. It can hardly be forgotten that urban Democratic machines are not exactly known for the integrity of their elections.

This is the question being asked by Trump and other right-wingers: not whether some massive conspiracy has been orchestrated at the national level, with Biden pulling the strings from a basement in Delaware, but whether the substantial misconduct that has long defined city political machines is influencing outcomes in these four key locations. This is not a question on which we can play it safe and civil. We need a full court press to get answers from people who have shown themselves unwilling to provide them.

Pay attention to the mainstream argument: Trump's claims have not been conclusively proven, and so the mere suggestion is considered far beyond the pale. For many, the president's assertion that 1) misconduct has been observed on a large scale in all of these key locations and 2) this misconduct will be challenged in court, is the conclusive proof they need that we are sliding into the dictatorship they predicted four years ago. The concerns are rebuked with the usual dismissals -- unfounded, unproven, unsubstantiated, "without evidence" -- and the narrative that Biden is the clear winner tightens its grip with every word out of every anchor's mouth. But more than enough preliminary evidence has been provided in each of these places to justify -- no, demand -- investigation.

The fundamental reason all these claims remain "unsubstantiated" is that the very people who reject them on this basis are the ones who are supposed to be substantiating them -- and they have absolutely, entirely abandoned this basic duty. Anyone who tries to look into the evidence is denounced as a kook or (in Trump's case) a caudillo. We can hardly expect an honest accounting of what's happened in the blue cities when talking about what's happened in the blue cities has suddenly become the eighth deadly sin.

This is why -- besides his unique perspective and approach drawing together the broadest coalition a Republican has built in sixty years -- Trump is actually the perfect man for the moment. The entire media establishment is aligned to declare a Biden victory prematurely, with no intention of investigating election inconsistencies. Local and state governments in the places that matter are hardly more reliable -- Michigan Attorney General Jocelyn Benson is an alumna of the SPLC, and Pennsylvania AG Josh Shapiro promised four days before the election that Trump would not win the state. The docile functionaries and milquetoast figureheads of the pre-Trump GOP could not have handled the fight ahead -- and likely would have run from it.

In fact, we know that they would have, because that's exactly what they're urging Trump to do now. If you Google "trump+thursday+speech" or any similar query, it's going to take a whole lot of digging to actually find the speech Trump delivered on Thursday. What you will find instead are abundant "fact-checks" of the speech that don't actually check any of the facts, and page upon page of ritual denunciations by the chattering classes.

These denunciations are hardly limited to the left-wingers behind the anchors' desks at every major network. CNN is proudly touting a clip of Rick Santorum, former Republican senator from PA and current senior political analyst at that esteemed news source, expressing his shock and disappointment that the president would call into question certain aspects of the election. Santorum voiced his hope that "Republicans will stand up at this moment and say what needs to be said about the integrity of our election." (The irony is apparently lost on him.)

Similarly, Scott Walker, who was one of the first to exit the Republican primary field in 2016 and lost his reelection bid for governor of Wisconsin in 2018 to Democrat Tony Evers, has issued a number of tweets insisting that a recount -- which the Trump campaign has already called for -- would be pointless. He has observed that, in normal elections, recounts have done very little to alter tallies. There's no sense to this line: this is not a normal election. Delays in ballot counting alone are enough to cause concern. Add to that the occasional full stops, after which huge quantities of Biden ballots conveniently appear. Add to that Wisconsin's level of voter turnout -- not over 100%, as some online rumors earlier suggested, but still near unbelievably high. It would be the farthest thing from a surprise if a more careful inspection really did shake things up this time around.

The same is true in Michigan, where Biden has made similarly stunning gains in witching-hour ballot dumps. On top of that, the transposition of a few thousand Trump votes to Biden in Antrim County has now been chalked up to a glitch in the tabulation software -- software that happens to be used in 46 other counties. We now know there is a problem with the way the votes are counted, and even the slightest chance that even the smallest repetition of that glitch has occurred elsewhere demands the strictest scrutiny be applied to the Michigan vote.

All this and more can be said for Pennsylvania and Georgia, the two states most vital to the president's reelection. Pennsylvania in particular is playing fast and loose with mail-in ballots, and dubious rules changes need to be challenged in court. Philadelphia has a reputation for machine-style corruption that puts Daley-era Chicago to shame. Election workers there have also repeatedly blocked GOP poll watchers from observing the process they are legally entitled to oversee. The same thing is happening in Detroit, where cardboard has actually been placed over the windows to prevent people from seeing inside the central counting location. If you have nothing to hide, right?

The president has every reason not to take the narrative at face value. This doesn't mean we throw out the election, and it doesn't mean we're undermining democracy. It means we need to exhaust every avenue and turn over every stone. Everything that can be brought before a court needs to be, and every ballot that raises red flags needs to be explained. Put the screws to every machine operative from Milwaukee to Atlanta, and make sure every word holds up.

Somebody needs to give a very good answer as to why the number of ballots left to count in Fulton County keeps changing every time we go to sleep -- and changing by margins that boggle the mind. Force the people who run the machines to speak, and see how long their story lasts. ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Declan Leary is the Collegiate Network Fellow at The American Conservative and a graduate of John Carroll University. His work has been published at National Review , Crisis, and elsewhere.


Matthew Maheras a day ago • edited

The fundamental reason all these claims remain "unsubstantiated" is that the very people who reject them on this basis are the ones who are supposed to be substantiating them -- and they have absolutely, entirely abandoned this basic duty.

This is such a bizarre sentence. Why would government officials, investigators or journalists or whoever be duty bound to substantiate the existence voter fraud. They've basically done the opposite actually, and debunked the claims. Nearly every single case of claimed voter fraud has been shown to be inaccurate, a lie, simply misleading and/or a misunderstanding.

"Suitcases" of ballots? Actually it's photography equipment of local news broadcasts. Poll watchers getting "pushed out" of wards? Because PA law says you are legally only allowed a set amount of pre-certified watchers in each precinct, who must wear face masks. "Dead voters" appearing in ballot rolls? Could exist, doesn't matter though because votes are crosschecked with databases, and even if you died on the way home from dropping off your mail-in ballot , your vote will be deleted, let alone if you're some potential fraud voter who died 30 years ago.

In fact, here's a good nice long Twitter thread explaining most of the major accusations flying around social media:

November 5, 2020
Matthew Maheras Matthew Maheras a day ago • edited

I'm just going to reply to my own very long post with an addendum:

The example of Detroit is given in the article as if papering the windows over was some heinous thing. The reason why we have to protect the identity of poll workers is intimidation. We already have a situation in Fulton County, GA where some enterprising conservatives have doxxed a poll worker and actually sent the poor man into hiding.

His license plate number was posted onto Twitter, and he is now hiding at a friend's house, because conservative activists falsely accused him of throwing out ballots.

November 6, 2020
faithandhonor Matthew Maheras 7 hours ago • edited

You are a liar. You obviously have never actually WORKED an election. I have. Several, in fact.

I have personally witnessed ballot fraud on a large scale, coupled with utter incompetence. Palm Beach county, 2012.

I oversaw the correction of 60,000 "defective" absentee ballots. Each correction table was to be staffed with 1 Dem, 1 Repub, who cross-checked each others work. The corrupt Supervisor of Elections harassed and threatened Republican workers and monitors. Nasty as hell. Corrupt as hell. AND SHE NEVER FOLLOWED HER OWN INSTRUCTIONS, AND WHEN CHALLENGED POLITELY, SHE THREATENED TO THROW ALL REPUBLICANS OUT OF THE ELECTIONS SITE.

I PERSONALLY witnessed CORRECTED ABSENTEE BALLOTS taken to the back where the voting TABULATORS were, and watched as each ballot was removed from the box, examined, and some were thrown in the trash can. And I had seen a lot of ballots with Romney marked for President, with a straight Dem ticket down-ballot races all Dem. This is a BLUE county.

I reported this, and nothing was done. Cowardly Republicans do this... Nothing. I often wonder how many other blue cou ties have threatened Republican poll watchers & workers.

Your slander of decent people means NOTHING, except that you are a liar of gigantic proportions. Go over to Daily Kos, where you can fellowship with your vile compatriot scumbags.

Ammo Alamo Matthew Maheras 21 minutes ago

I support the view that it is entirely possible for a county full of good people to lean hard against the "other side" in a hot disputed election. In 2014 and 2016 the polling place was a strange church miles away; the workers there had a hand-lettered sign posted that demanded driver licenses as ID, even though State law did not demand that form of ID alone. This year I was one of the people who were locked out of the voting process; the details do not matter, but it happened, and I refused to kowtow to the system to get my registration card renewed. My county went 80% for Trump, so in fact my lone vote would not have mattered for much anyway.

No doubt some people were denied the right to vote. Historically, the right to vote is denied blacks and latinos more often than whites. But to make a blanket claim of a stolen election, just the President, mind you, is an extraordinary claim that demands extraordinary proof. Trump does not even claim that any of those down ballot Repubs, candidates who did just fine for themselves, were denied votes. Just him.

It's a perfect storm of narcissism denied.

sdkeller72 faithandhonor 2 hours ago

If the democrats rigged the election then why didn't they give themselves the Senate? Why did they lose seats in the House? And why did they not take back a single statehouse?

Trump lost because the DNC opened their arms to the Bush-era neocons from the Lincoln Project. They're all republicans that voted for Biden and down ticket republicans and now Biden will be putting them in his cabinet. If the election was rigged then you can thank the those republicans for betraying their party, but the DNC is incapable of rigging anything without help from the other side.

Brother John the Deplorable sdkeller72 an hour ago • edited

Your mistake is conflating "Republicans" and "republican voters." Not the same thing. Trump was sent to DC to deal, among other things with the "Republicans."

Why didn't they give themselves the senate? A couple of hundred thousand ballots with a 100% tally for one side were manufactured to influence one election. Only one really mattered. Several million Americans were impoverished and terrorized all year long to ensure this result.

In any case, they don't need the Senate -- the "Republicans" will simply roll over. They always do. Cocaine Mitch is already signaling his intent to do so.

sdkeller72 Brother John the Deplorable 43 minutes ago

I saw his spokesperson the other day said any Biden cabinet picks will have to be approved by him. Doesn't sound like Mitch is rolling over at all. We're going to see the Lincoln Project repugs (Bush era neocons) in his cabinet and giving the MIC a seat at the table again.

Just another 4 years of Bush/Obama policies. I think we can agree that both sides lost this election and that's sadly not new either.

Maybe its time the for "fringes" to unite against the center.

sdkeller72 Brother John the Deplorable 18 minutes ago

Speaking as a progressive myself, I dont feel like we united as much as we stayed home. No one in the 2016 election was representing anything we wanted. The only thing that united us was our hatred of Hillary. ;) hahaha

We can't unify under either established party. I'm talking about really uniting and taking both out with a real populist platform (healthcare, ending our wars and getting money out of politics), all things most Americans are in favor of. What do we have to lose at this point? There's something horribly broken with our government when every 4 years both sides are left frustrated when the will of the people is never represented in our supposed representative democracy. We gotta try something different.

SJE Matthew Maheras a day ago

Fox News has aired video of certified poll observers in philly being prevented from entering polling places. but keep running interference- its obvious you wouldn't care if you KNEW fraud had taken place...

George Annie from Alaska 10 hours ago

Other Murdoch-owned news companies have done much worse! In England, his reporters spoofed a call from a dead girl's phone, giving her parents false hope. They bugged and bribed politicians, pretty ugly stuff. Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

tz SJE an hour ago

Fox News is a subsidiary NewsCorp, peddler of tabloid propaganda , promulgated by an Australian plutocrat Rupert Murdoch, who is no friend of the USA. He has been ripping us apart now for decades for his profit, power, and ego. He has made the GOP his b**ch. Note how recently he has turned on Trump (not that I mind).

Brother John the Deplorable Matthew Maheras 3 hours ago
Why would government officials, investigators or journalists or whoever be duty bound to the existence voter fraud.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Those who claim to "speak truth to power" have as their function the investigation and reporting of charges of voter fraud.

Instead, they are nothing but rank partisans, licking the government hand that feeds them, and simply memory-holing anything that might damage their boy or be thought helpful to their opponents. Liars and frauds, every last one.

Matthew Maheras Brother John the Deplorable 2 hours ago • edited
simply memory-holing anything that might damage their boy or be thought helpful to their opponents.

Whatever you want to claim about lefties with "TDS" or whatever you want to label them, this sentence is literally a word-for-word description that applies to Trump supporters.

Just endless ranks of simpletons who will thrust off every piece of evidence and correction to their accusations.

Write out a comment to debunk things being misconstrued, twisted or lied about, and Trumpists will waste your time blathering and ranting on about "rank partisans" without even a hint or lick of irony and self-reflection about how their entire post is actually about themselves.

Brother John the Deplorable Matthew Maheras an hour ago

I can just as easily dismiss you the same way, but the idea that FB, Twitter, CNN, and yes -- even Fox -- aren't nakedly partisan is ridiculous nonsense. The least you could do is pretend to understand what got Trump elected in the first place.

sdkeller72 Brother John the Deplorable an hour ago

Wall St and the MIC work hand and hand with our corporate media, an industry that's dominated by 6 corporations. They're not liberal nor conservative, they are only motivated by money and power and keeping the population divided so that they dont unite and come for them all.

Ammo Alamo sdkeller72 6 minutes ago

One only has to look at the Citizens United Supreme Court decision to see how far down the US has fallen. Now a corporation is a person? If that is so, can't they get 20-to-life when they kill someone? Can't they get the death penalty? NO, they can't; but they can get all the good things that come from that ruling, without any of the negatives at all.

Ammo Alamo Brother John the Deplorable 9 minutes ago

Not every last reporter is a rank partisan, but many of them prefer the easy route to a paycheck. Look up Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Tom Engelhardt, and others like them. There are honest historians like Howard Zinn and Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz. There are also honest whistleblowers who get a bad rep, like Chelsea Manning, Eric Snowden and Julian Assange. There are still a few journalists of the old school in the world. But they have to be careful less they find themselves charged with treason under an old law, and spend the balance of their lives locked down 23 1/2 hours per day in a tiny cell in a US SuperMax prison.

Christine a day ago • edited

Excellent article. I am very happy Trump is pushing to open up this election to legal review, public inspection, recounts, bipartisan review of the ballots, process violations. We were supposed to be patient and wait for the count, why not the recount. What is the hurry. If he lost, fine, I want to know that, not just trust anti-Trump, Democratic activist officials telling me that. There are so many oddities - the Biden surges coming after down time, always so conveniently. Software turning Republican votes into Democrat votes. The dead voting. Blocking access to GOP observers. Given the closeness of the results in the key states that are determining the outcome, it is not that hard to turn things one way or the other.

dstraws Ammo Alamo 6 hours ago

The state legislators decide when the mail in ballots are counted. For Florida, Oregon, Colorado they are counted when they come in and are verified as legal votes. For Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin the legislature decided they could not start processing the ballots until election day, thus it is impossible get a count of those ballots before the in person voting was counted.

Annie from Alaska Pete Barbeaux 13 hours ago

Barr is asking, "how many people who sent late-arriving mail-in ballots also showed up to vote on election day?"

It matters because it's the law we all agreed to, and you need to respect the process to retain the other side's confidence, which your side has not done.

But one thing which may be behind the law is these 100%-Biden ballot dumps that don't vote for congress. Do you see what's behind Barr's question? Mail-in ballots make ballot stuffing almost trivial because you can just dump them into the mail. The one problem is that each envelope has to have a registered voter's name on it, and that name is compared to who voted in person. To get the mail-in vote counted, and to avoid suspicious patterns, you need to put a name on there that didn't vote in person. That's much easier to do after the polls close, and you have collected all the signature books to start doing the mail-in count.

Kerr Avon Annie from Alaska 13 hours ago

Well Barr then needs to turn these questions into official DOJ actions doesn't he - When do we think the DOJ is going to start ?

IanDakar SJE 20 hours ago

Georgia goes a step farther. Even if it's post marked before election, if it gets to the office after election day it's STILL not counted.

So what's left? Just tell everyone to count what they can in 4 hours then torch the rest?

Annie from Alaska IanDakar 13 hours ago

This rule makes it harder to conspire with someone in USPS to "find" a bundle of ballots "lost" inside USPS, and stuff the ballot box that way.

gnt Annie from Alaska 7 hours ago

So if the Post Office managers intentionally lose a box of ballots, it should just stay lost, because that's not tampering with votes.

faithandhonor Annie from Alaska 7 hours ago

There was a 300,000 ballot discrepancy between ballots mailed and those received, and USPS can't account for the difference.

The postal Mail Covers Service should able to prove several things, and the fraud as well. There are several ways to prove the fraud.

And the PA vote processes that were handed down by the PA corrupt court are invalid.

ONLY THE PA LEGISLATURE IS AUTHORIZED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE VOTING LAWS.

Matthew Maheras faithandhonor 7 hours ago
There was a 300,000 ballot discrepancy between ballots mailed and those received, and USPS can't account for the difference.

Yes they can, the USPS explained this two days ago. Many ballots don't show delivery or tracking scans because the policy was to have them hand-picked by postal workers to expedite their arrival.

Maybe they wouldn't have had to skip steps in the process if Trump should have appointed someone better than DeJoy, and maybe Congress (Republicans in particular) shouldn't have spent the better part of the last two decades screwing with the USPS.

Alex (from SF) a day ago

Delays in ballot counting alone are enough to cause concern. Add to that the occasional full stops, after which huge quantities of Biden ballots conveniently appear. Add to that Wisconsin's level of voter turnout -- not over 100%, as some online rumors earlier suggested, but still near unbelievably high. It would be the farthest thing from a surprise if a more careful inspection really did shake things up this time around.

Yeah, what kind of insane ballot-counting system would allow the poll workers to sleep ? They should be legally required to mainline stimulants until their work is done! And the only honest way to deliver counts is to transmit each individual ballot one by one to the state: sending counts in batches must be evidence of fraud! And how is it possible that after vocally discouraging his voters from voting by mail, there are relatively few Trump mail-in votes? Very suspicious! Oh and by the way, turnout in Wisconsin was quite normal:

https://www.nationalreview....

Does anyone fact check these articles? Are there editorial standards here at all?

Matthew Maheras SJE 21 hours ago • edited
jeez, it is amazing how uncurious everyone has become...

Uncurious? The uncurious are the people who take videos shared by Steven Crowder, or whatever right-wing grifter they like, and believe them as gospel truth without verifying it.

I have literally spent the better part of my precious Friday evening reading and watching a trove of claimed voter fraud incidents, and I have yet to find a substantially supported example.

1) Jill Stokke spoke at a Trump rally in Nevada, claimed her mail-in vote never came and that they had a ballot with her signature on it. Except it turns out the County Elections department went to her house, offered to let her cast a new ballot with a written statement about the supposedly falsified ballot , and she refused. Then she went to the media and claimed she had been wronged...for something she refused to rectify when given the chance!

2) Sharpiegate claimed that people were given Sharpies to invalidate Republican ballots. On the one hand, there's zero evidence this happened other than unverified claims by a few people on social media. On the other hand, it doesn't matter. Sharpies are compatible with Maricopa County's ballot scanners, and to boot, even if they weren't, the ballot would still be accepted! If you use a pen incompatible with the machine (say a red pen), especially if you send it from home, even if the machine rejects your ballot, it will simply be hand-counted afterwards.

3) Wagongate, which was perpetrated by Steven Crowder alleged that a man was secretly bringing in ballots in a wagon. Except guess what, it's actually the cameraman for WXYZ, the local ABC affiliate, bringing in his team's equipment.

4) 118-year old dead man votes was another pet theory. Again, no. What happened was the man's son, who has the same name, voted and his vote was incorrectly logged (logged not counted!) upon receipt as belonging to his father. And in Michigan, what happens if a dead person does actually try to vote? The system will flag the vote and delete it. Even if you cast your ballot before Election Day and die before Election Day, the county will know and your vote will be deleted. From the Michigan Secretary of State website:

Ballots of voters who have died are rejected in Michigan, even if the voter cast an absentee ballot and then died before Election Day.

5) Then there was this video of some guy who Eric Trump (and others) claimed was throwing Republican ballots out.

But...duh? You absolutely do have some ballots thrown out in every election, because they're improperly marked or otherwise somehow invalid. That's not a conspiracy, that's literally what poll workers have to do. I don't get it, if we think there are dead people voting (per the above conspiracy) wouldn't we want the workers to throw them out? Or do we not want them throwing them out? Can't have it both ways!

6) As a final example, last night I saw a video going around of two election workers sitting across from each other, with one filling out a ballot, and the person recording the video is claiming that they're filling out fake ballots.

It doesn't exactly take a brainiac to realize what's happening in the video. The man on the right is holding a damaged ballot, and reading off the marked selections to the woman on the left so that she can transcribe the damaged information to a new, undamaged ballot. You then mark the serial number for the new ballot onto the original, damaged ballot to keep them together.

And of course, as an extra bonus, the video is zoomed in purposefully to crop out the bipartisan poll-watchers that are standing right by this duo to make sure that they're properly transcribing the votes.

This is literally election 101 stuff, but apparently people don't know how it works.

BanBait Matthew Maheras 16 hours ago

Uh huh. 200% turnout in a Milwaukee precinct. 138,399 votes turning up for Biden and zero for Trump. Nothing to see here!!

massappeal BanBait 16 hours ago

Got a link to any of that?

Matthew Maheras BanBait 12 hours ago • edited
200% turnout in a Milwaukee precinct.

Come on, you can literally verify or debunk this on the County website. Yes, one claim going around is that Wards 273 and 274, which was located at the Spanish Immersion School reported 200% turnout.

Well, we can quickly verify this on the Milwaukee County Clerk website , and what does it tell us?

Ward 273 had 671 registered voters, and 612 actual voters; Ward 274 had 702 registered voters and 611 actual voters.

So congratulations, you bought into another easily disprovable lie. I've also seen claims that the 272nd, 277th, 269th, 234th and 312nd Wards overrated, but you can check and see that none of that is true either.

And, all of these claims are leaving out an important detail anyways: Wisconsin has same-day voter registration. It is possible , albeit perhaps unlikely, to have higher voter counts than number of pre-registered voters because of that.

RBH Matthew Maheras 15 hours ago • edited

Ballot harvesting is real: https://dfw.cbslocal.com/20... This is but one example in my state, and we're also aware of certain places sending out unrequested ballots. They all deserve jail time.

Matthew Maheras Connecticut Farmer 12 hours ago

Let's say I was. Would that make any of the proof I linked untrue? Or is truth only something that comes out of a party-flag waving conservatives' mouth?

And no, I'm not. I've pretty openly stated multiple times that I voted ASP in the Presidential race, and both R/D in various spots down the ballot.

Oh, and just in the interest of fairness, there were some conspiracies going around on the left too on election night. One that I saw was that 300,000 ballots were undelivered. While yes, many thousands of ballots were likely undelivered, what was happening wasn't that they were undelivered, it was that the USPS was skipping scanning the ballots to expedite delivery. That's why DeJoy likely won't actually get in trouble, because postal branches were specifically going out of their way to hand-pick ballots and expedite their delivery.

LgVt 18 hours ago

The reason a recount doesn't change anything is because it's just that--a recount. They take all the ballots that were counted before, and count them again. They're not looking at whether any ballots should have been thrown out. Fraudulent ballots that were counted the first time around are counted again.

A recount won't do anything about what the Democrats pulled in Milwaukee.

Annie from Alaska LgVt 13 hours ago

I also don't understand it. Hasn't the mail-in envelope with the signature and the voter's name already been thrown away? How will they remove the votes by dead people?

I have heard they're using some procedure intended for ballots that won't scan to conceal ballots with missing or invalid signatures by copying them at desks that are supposed to have bipartisan teams. I guess they throw out the original ballot when they do that to prevent the recount from checking signatures properly?

Ken T Annie from Alaska 10 hours ago
I guess they throw out the original ballot when they do that to prevent the recount from checking signatures properly?

No, they do that to prevent any possibllity of the original being mistakenly counted twice.

As you yourself pointed out, the copying takes place in front of a bipartisan team of watchers. So for your fantasy to have any validity, you have to believe that BOTH parties are conspiring together to rig the vote. In which case, your vote is irrelevant, anyway, right?

If you really care about this, then instead of believing all of these ridiculous conspiracy theories, why don't you try to actually become educated about how the process works, and next time volunteer yourself to become a certified poll watcher? Then you will KNOW the truth.

dstraws Annie from Alaska 7 hours ago

Those checks were made before the ballot was accepted and counted. They include checking that it was a legal ballot sent to a specific person. And that the signature matched that of the registered voter. Only after those checks is the ballot removed from its envelop. While there may be a few mistakes there aren't anywhere enough to be material to the final results. The ballots from in person voting are similarly dissociated from the voters' information.

stephen pickard 17 hours ago • edited

A big thank you to Mr. Maheras commenting below. Listen to him. He is our savior.

I am close to 80 years old. Old conspiracy advocates began to make extraordinary claims about most everything when photographs would appear in newspapers. Rorschach tests. Then came videos , or movie clips on TV. Think the Kennedy tape. Pretty soon we had personal video equipment. And now cell phones. All Rorschach tests. But those crazy conspiracies were the fringe long time ago. True belivers. Ideologues. But not the Republican party leaders.

About 30 years ago the new world order, illuminati, the Bilderbers, now the Davos all became the subject of the go to conspiracy advocates. Take your pick. One or all . But one thing for sure, a cabal is taking over the world. Throw in a few Clinton, or Obama conspiracies. Catch a sighting of Elvis for good measure.

Now all rolled into the Qanon cabal. Democratic pedophilia scum raping children. What they all have in common is that they are right wing conspiracy advocates. And they all are foolish.

This article fits in with those conspiracies. And by right wing
advocates naturally. When Clinton lost , her margin of defeat was similar to Trump's projected defeat. Clinton and the Democrats never asserted fraud. Nor suggested conspiracies. The political system worked, Trump won.

Now we have a reputable magazine publishing similar outlandish conspiracy theroies to the ones mentioned above. All without a scintilla of proof. The President of the United States for months has been setting his base up to claim fraud. And he has. And they have blindly bought into it.

Long way to tell you that the greatest disappointment of my lifetime is the validation by conservatives of these kooky ideas. 30 years ago even conservatives would call these conspiracy peddlers nut jobs.

Now we have a nut job in the white house. The birther in chief. And he just gets worse. But no one in the Republican party, except for a few tepid critics, will call the Predident out.

This is the same guy who saw videos of Muslims dancing on 9/11. Or an inaugural crowd rivaling the largest gathering of human beings ever assembled in the whole history of mankind. The greatest. The most perfect and strongest

I have never been so disappointed in my President. He has enabled Mr. Leary to peddle his nonsense. And tragically Leary believes his blather. This is truly heartbreaking. But it is the world that Leary and his ilk will have to live with.

Me, l'll be gone. Forgetting my own name soon. Someone tell me that what I just read is a part of my onset dementia.

OfficerSudsy28 CE in CA 8 hours ago

Lifelong stutterer? What a load of crap. Just watch some old videos of Joe in his arrogant days on the senate judiciary. He and his good buddy Ted Chappaquidick Kennedy didn't stutter when they were trashing Clarence Thomas and Judge Bork. Hey it's your right to vote for a lifer politician who's way past his prime and suffering from a tragic disease. Climate change - right. More likely God's judgement on a godless nation.

Ken T stephen pickard 10 hours ago
Now we have a reputable magazine publishing similar outlandish conspiracy theroies

As someone who started reading TAC a long time ago when it really WAS a reputable magazine, I'm afraid that particular ship started sailing several years ago, and is almost out of the harbor by now. There was a time when you could come here to find intelligent, educated, and thoughtful conservatives setting out their views and being unafraid to engage with responses from all across the entire political spectrum. Now, Larison is the only one left who consistently meets that description, a couple of others dabble in reality once in a while, and the rest are descending into Breitbart levels of paranoid lunacy.

KevinS 17 hours ago • edited

I look forward to seeing the evidence of fraud in a court of law rather than just circulating on twitter where the standards are somewhat less stringent.

And the president said BEFORE the election that any election he lost would necessarily be rigged/corrupt. So of course that evidence was going to be found if he lost.....

Victor_the_thinker KevinS 13 hours ago

You can put this is the same category as all these white guys who lost a job because they were white men. Of course the couldn't possibly make these claims in a court where discovery could happen and their BS would be exposed.

longlance 17 hours ago

Though loud, loutish, bumptious & bombastic, Trump is weak, shallow, superficial & hollow at his core. As Georgia goes, so goes the nation.

[Nov 07, 2020] Philadelphia has a reputation for machine-style corruption that puts Daley-era Chicago to shame

Pretty weak counterarguments. People who run Russiagate are capable of much more widespread election fraud that anybody suspect.
Nov 07, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Ammo Alamo an hour ago

"Philadelphia has a reputation for machine-style corruption that puts Daley-era Chicago to shame."

You talk about convenient actions, convenient facts, then conveniently bring this shameless charge without any supporting evidence. One could easily say "Trump has been a crook since the days when he and his siblings cheated Mary Trump and family out of her legal share of patriarch Fred Trump's fortune".

Except, there is substantial evidence that the Trumps did cheat the niece and nephew out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and there is no evidence of "machine-style corruption" in Philadelphia during this election, which is the pertinent point – during this election.

If there was corruption in Philadelphia four, eight, or eighty years ago it has no bearing; only if it happened during this election. But the Trump transgressions stands for all time rather than just for this election, because it reveals his personal willingness to engage in unlawful activity for personal profit, a shameful mark on any claim to personal integrity.

"Election workers there have also repeatedly blocked GOP poll watchers from observing the process they are legally entitled to oversee"

One authorized observer was temporarily denied entry, a mistake that was corrected by the elections board fairly quickly. It was one and only one. It was due to a mis-interpretation of a change in the law that happened recently. Once the directive to allow entry came down, the observer entered and did his work without obstruction. No other authorized observer was challenged or blocked from observing the process at any time for any length of time. Maybe unauthorized observers were blocked, or observers who wanted to enter locations where no observers were authorized at all.

"The same thing is happening in Detroit, where cardboard has actually been placed over the windows to prevent people from seeing inside the central counting location"

People who were not authorized observers were attempting to film the activities of the authorized vote counters, tabulators, and observers inside a facility. That video is illegal because of a law designed to promote fairness in elections by making sure authorized vote counters, tabulators, and observers can be anonymous, and not outed to the press and public.

The windows were blocked to prevent further filming of the activities inside; those activities already had a full compliment of observers from both sides, and did not need the press of untrained, angry humanity attempting to push their way inside, which was sure to end in injury if those in back continued to press against those at the front who were stuck up against plate glass windows.

The possibility of vote workers being publicly identified then followed to their homes and families was a threat that deserved protection from. It happened to at least one worker, and he had to temporarily move in with a relative to protect himself, plus keep off the streets because his car license was published. The proper legal solution was to continue to allow the workers their anonymity, and simple cardboard did the trick.

"If you have nothing to hide, right?"

"If there is smoke there must be fire" does not always pertain. When angry, or frustrated at being unable to get 'their guy' elected, people can imagine all sorts of scenarios. But imagination does not equal truth. Adults know this without even thinking about it.

"Put the screws to every machine operative from Milwaukee to Atlanta"

There should be operatives and procedures in place from well before the election just to make sure no one has to come back later and "put the screws to every machine operative." And there are just such laws in place everywhere in the US. Do these people writing on this American Conservative website think the election laws and procedures were made up on the morning of the election, and made up with no input from any Republicans? Don't be ridiculous.

" why the number of ballots left to count in Fulton County keeps changing "

The people writing on this American Conservative website have such vivid imaginations when thinking up ways they could be receiving a wrong vote count. Why can they not use that same imagination here? Perhaps the reason that numbers change is that they are changing TV channels and listening to different pundits.

Perhaps it could be because there is no God of Remaining Votes to make sure nobody gives out a number that confuses a Republican. Perhaps it could be because there is no validity to a count of uncounted votes – it is only the counted and validated votes that matter in an election, not the uncounted ones.

Simply put, an uncounted ballot is just that, a ballot that does not (yet) count. They are acting like there is an endless supply of Biden ballots out there that can be put in play on demand. Show me. Just show me.

The entire notion is frivolous, and silly, and worthy of someone running an election in 1820 or 1850, where a man might make his X on a ballot on Election Day, in return for a slug of whisky or plug of tobacco, then try to come back an hour later to get another drink, and another

"Force the people who run the machines to speak, and see how long their story lasts."

Would that include waterboarding the machine operators? Would the Republican observers be waterboarded, too? How about elected officials, Dem or Repub? Maybe hot irons would get to the truth better, or bringing in a worker's child and beating them or raping them until the worker "freely" swore to the desired testimony?

It is a well-known fact in science that eyewitnesses are unlikely to get events exactly correct when tasked with describing them later. If some poll worker fails to get their details exactly as another sworn witnesses' testimony, which is the most likely outcome for eyewitnesses reporting an event, does the second person get charged with perjury, and go to prison for years? Look back to Susan McDougall, a woman who chose years in prison rather than put herself on the witness stand under oath, because she knew full well her honest account was the exact opposite of the people who testified before her. Those guys were a pack of self-serving liars who created lying accounts that fit the story the prosecutors' favored. They got themselves sweet plea bargains, or sweet freedom, just by telling the politically correct lie.

Put the screws to every machine operative from Milwaukee to Atlanta was an earlier threat. Why make such a threat? Is violence against innocent-until-proven-guilty workers, the low-wage peasants of modern society, your only and best option? Do you think so little of people as to threaten thumb screws, a torture straight out of the worst of the Spanish Inquisition and the Middle Ages? I guess so; it's right there in the article you wrote and the editors approved.

That last sentence in the essay, with its serious threat to hurt and destroy the lowest level of poll worker, to cause them harm until they testify the way you want them to testify, is straight out of the playbook of the Russian Communist Lubyanka Prison in the days of Stalin. I did not expect to see a card-carrying Commie on this website, but there it is. I didn't write that last sentence, the author did, and the editors of American Conservative passed it.

Shame, for shame. Oh wait, the editors have a disclaimer in the fine print. Sure, that makes it right. For sure.
No, for shame, still.

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump Campaign To Challenge Mail-In Ballots Counted In Absence Of GOP Observers In Battlefield States by Allen Zhong

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Allen Zhong via The Epoch Times,

President Donald Trump's reelection campaign will launch a lawsuit in Pennsylvania to challenge the mail-in ballots that have been counted without Republican poll watchers onsite.

Rudy Giuliani, Trump's attorney announced Saturday the lawsuit during a press conference in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, with several Republican poll watchers who were prevented from entering the poll sites or the rights of poll-watching were blocked.

A federal lawsuit will be filed on Monday in Pennsylvania and more expected in other states.

"We're going to file a federal lawsuit that will cover here [Philadelphia] and Pittsburgh, and we will have as many witnesses as the court needs. Right now, it could be as many as 90 witnesses," Giuliani said.

Several witnesses joined Giuliani during the press conference, all are local Philadelphia residents.

Lisette Tarragano, one of the witnesses, said she was never allowed to enter the polling site along with other five to six Republican poll watchers.

"I was never brought in. Actually, I never got past the first identification stage, they kept saying that mine as well as five or six other Republicans, their names hadn't been entered into the system," she said.

Two other poll watchers, Darrell Brooks and Matt Silver said they were kept 15 to 20 feet away from the ballots.

Silver also alleged that some unusual ballot boxes were witnessed inside the polling site.

"There seem to be at least certain boxes seem to be in the same unusual pen, and seem to have very similar handwriting. Some boxes were normal, some boxes were like that," he said.

The Biden campaign, the Office of Philadelphia City Commissioners, the election division of Allegheny county government, and the Pennsylvania Department of State didn't immediately respond to requests for comment from The Epoch Times.

It was reported that a Republican poll watcher was temporarily blocked on Election Day in Philadelphia.

Kevin Feeley, a spokesman for the Philadelphia City Commissioners, admitted that the one poll watcher was prevented from entering the polling site on Nov. 3.

"The mistake was corrected, and the guy was admitted," he said, claiming it was an isolated incident.

During the election night, Trump led when the ballot canvassing started in several swing states including Pennsylvania. But the lead was diluted by the lately-counted mail-in ballots. In Pennsylvania, Democratic party presidential candidate Joe Biden took a slight lead after the mail-in ballots were counted.

Because the results are very close and several lawsuits are ongoing over the election outcome in several battlefield states, it's more and more clear that this election will be settled through the judicial system.

The expected lawsuit by the Trump campaign will start another battle line over the outcome of the election in some swing states: mail-in ballots counted without Republican observers.

Over the past few days, Trump has been vocal over the need to protect the sanctity of the ballot box while claiming that Democrats are trying to "steal" the election from him due to efforts to count late-arriving ballots, which he alleges are "illegal." He and his legal teams have been arguing that mail-in ballots postmarked by Nov. 3 but received after election day should not be counted and that votes that were counted without Republican observers present in the ballot-counting centers should also be considered "illegal votes."

The U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito late Friday ordered Pennsylvania election officials to segregate ballots that arrived after Election Day.

sixsigma cygnusatratus , 29 minutes ago

Listen. Now is not the time to take a defeatist approach. Dropping out from politics would only achieve exactly what the left wants. Everyone needs to be doing exactly the opposite.

Whenever we were attacked, our forefathers did not stomp around and say they were fed up. They dusted themselves off, rolled up their sleeves, organized and kicked @ss.

Biden is the epitome of corruption. Large corporations that want access to either Chinese labor or Chinese markets or both will now feel victorious in a Biden win. The "flyover" states will suffer even more than under Obama.

You are not an army. But if you organize, you can be just as effective. Pick a target. Just one target that you know you can win. Whether it's canceling Netflix, canceling your Amazon account, not buying that thing you were thinking of buying, canceling social media, etc. Now stay on target, no matter what. Tell everyone to do the same. Find alternatives.

Our forefathers sacrificed a lot to keep this country free. President Trump, his businesses and his family have sacrificed a lot. You can cancel Netflix.

#IAintBuyinIt

[Nov 07, 2020] I voted in person in Las Vegas, yet the Nevada Secretary Of State's website says I voted in person AND through mail in ballot.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.youtube.com

JOE , 6 hours ago

I voted in person in Las Vegas, yet the Nevada Secretary Of State's website says I voted in person AND through mail in ballot.????? They demanded any blank mail in ballots from the voters at the polling place be turned in.

Reece Allred , 2 hours ago

contact the trump administration

Patty Walpole , 2 hours ago

So it shows you voted twice ? For sure report this.

Aura Abjure , 2 hours ago

Such corruption should be reported. Thank you very much.

Brooke McQuale , 1 hour ago

No you didn't, you're a liar and always have been and always will be, at least that's what everyone is saying. I voted 12 times, it's no big deal. In fact, my 95yo momma is still voting, I just can't get her to stop, besides, she really is enjoying herself. Oop, there she goes, she just voted for Nixon, and and she hated Nixon. Well, what are you gonna do, she's 95.

[Nov 07, 2020] Nevada non-resident voters

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Sequitur , 14 minutes ago

Zero evidence of a fraudulent election. Zero. Lawsuits are a laughable farce.

Trump lawyers complained about thousands of "non-residents" voting in Nevada. Yeah -- those "non-residents" were military serving overseas, they have an absolute legal right under Federal and state law to vote in the Nevada election.

Just one of many ******** legal claims thrown against the wall by Trump. All baseless. Election = over.

LVrunner , 11 minutes ago

Not a smidge of corruption I tell ya! 🤣 and I live in Nevada douchebag, the non residents are the thousands who have dual residences that received unlawful mailed ballots.

[Nov 07, 2020] In 30 States, A Computer System Known To Be Defective Is Tallying Votes -

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Kyle Becker @kylenabecker "Securing our elections should not be a partisan issue."

Early in 2020, Dems held a hearing with 3 major private election vendors, including DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS.

The Dem. Chair revealed voting components from China, widespread Internet & hacking vulnerability & WORSE.

12:46 AM · Nov 7, 2020

[Nov 07, 2020] Twitter and Facebook are smacking down all questioning of US election integrity. What about 4 years of Russiagate by Helen Buyniski

Nov 07, 2020 | www.rt.com

Social media is clamping down on posts questioning US election results' "integrity," despite troubling anomalies. Yet questioning election integrity defined the establishment narrative for four years of relentless Russiagating.

Twitter, Facebook and YouTube's crackdown on speculation about voter fraud, " election meddling ," and other " information intended to undermine public confidence in an election or other civic process " (as Twitter put it ) represents a stunning about-face from the way they fostered – even bolstered – speculation about alleged Russian interference in the 2016 vote.

ALSO ON RT.COM FBI director says Russia is engaged in 'very active efforts' to sink Biden & rehashes 2016 claims but provides no evidence

In what is perhaps the ultimate irony, the current level of election meddling by the social media establishment – which outstrips anything the troll farm Internet Research Agency pulled off in 2016 by several orders of magnitude – would be impossible without the hysteria ginned up on these platforms by journalists casting doubt over the integrity of that year's election. If not for four years of Russiagate, social media platforms would never have gotten away with choking off the flow of information about 2020's election on the level they are.

Twitter has been steadily tightening its " election integrity " policy since 2016 in response to allegations that social media had served as a breeding ground for " Russian bots " and trolls who somehow convinced a massive swathe of the American electorate to vote for Republican candidate Donald Trump in that year's election. The platform now vows to remove " unverified claims " about election fraud or meddling, now that four years of unverified claims about Russian meddling have succeeded in making many ordinary Americans fearful of what would happen to their precious vote if censors weren't waiting in the wings to smother wrongthink.

Narrative control tightens as panicked anti-Trump aristocrats crank up media gaslight machines

Facebook, too, has refashioned itself as an election integrity crusader using the Russian meddling claims as a springboard. In a plot twist that would be rejected from a Hollywood script for being too on the nose, its "election integrity" expert Anna Makanju previously worked as a special policy adviser for Europe and Eurasia to former Vice President (and current Democratic presidential challenger) Joe Biden. She's also a senior nonresident fellow at the pro-war NATO-backed think tank the Atlantic Council, which has partnered with Facebook since 2018 to "defend democracy" – again, based on unfounded allegations that the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election.

YouTube has acted in a similar vein, forcing " authoritative sources " down users' throats (when if they wanted to watch CNN, they would turn on their TV, not log on to YouTube) and slapping thought-babysitting warning labels on content related to controversial issues.

All three outlets have labeled " state-run media " and suppressed its reach – in many cases making loopholes for media run by the US or its client states, and making bogus claims about " editorial independence " as if the heads of state of Russia, Iran, China, and other wrongthink-generating states are breathing down the necks of individual writers. Yet even privately owned US media outlets are now muzzled when the stories they publish purport to tell unwanted truths about the anointed one – Biden – or his son, whose laptop initiated the most shockingly heavy-handed censorship episode of the pre-election season. The coverup, as they say, is always worse than the crime.

Thanks to a cross-platform clampdown on questioning election results, no matter how dodgy they may seem, the president of the US himself cannot call the attention of his millions of followers to allegations of voter fraud in states that have become key battlegrounds in the 2020 contest: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Half of his last dozen tweets are hidden behind a 'warning' that prevent users from commenting on or retweeting them. Even a three-word caps-lock outburst like " STOP THE FRAUD " has been declared too sensitive for users' eyes.

Twitter, Facebook and YouTube declared it their mission to fight " misinformation " amid the fog of doubts about election integrity that ensued following Trump's 2016 upset. Their drift in the past four years has made it abundantly clear – as has the revelation that upwards of 95 percent of political contributions made by employees of all three companies went to Democrats – that they are not neutral, nonpartisan onlookers, but willing soldiers in the Democratic Party's information war. The obviousness with which they go about fighting it only inflames the president's supporters, who – after days of having tweets deleted, being locked out of their accounts, and otherwise being suppressed – are ready to go to war themselves.

Trump's reign has proved the US president is merely a figurehead. Does it really matter who wins the vote?

And that's the point. Given how little daylight there really would be between the policies of the two presidents, it's clear all this divide-and-conquer pageantry is aimed more at the candidates' supporters – many of whom have divergent views on where the US should go. Nevertheless, if those supporters were to peacefully compare notes on what they see as the problems with American society, they might realize they have more in common with each other than they do with the leaders of their respective parties. Therefore, they must be kept at each other's throats if the ruling establishment is to survive. And, given the looks of 2020's election results, that ruling class will enjoy a long, healthy life.

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Kiro919 7 hours ago

No-one would vote for Dorsey or Zuckerbum - yet they have incredible power and influence. Close them down and punish them.

Daniel Fernald Kiro919 5 hours ago

Boycott, divest, sanction (BDS).

Count_Cash Kiro919 5 hours ago

Tech dictators - we know what is going to happen to them really. US is closing mouths now, censoring even their president. Free speech is dead in the US. No allegations allowed, every dissenting voice labelled as not to be listened to, every search result censored, every non conforming view attacked - everyone with a mind knows they are looking at a US which is an oppressive regime only permitting a single party view. They have run a fraudulent election to protect that regime!

UshouldKnow 3 hours ago

Google, Facebook and Twitter are public forums and as such should not be allowed to censor free speech which is guaranteed in our constitution. This should be taken up by the Supreme Court.

Jack the Beanstalk 7 hours ago

just a few years ago Maduro was almost ousted in a coup by Guaido and special interests in USA. The same thing is happening now its a failed coup attempt again sponsored by richest 1%

a325 6 hours ago

"Social media is clamping down on posts questioning US election results' "integrity," despite troubling anomalies. Yet questioning election integrity defined the establishment narrative for four years of relentless Russiagating." The hypocrisy is right there

Jimmy_The_Cop 3 hours ago

Donald Trump should be congratulated for saving us from Hilary Clinton and staying alive for nearly four years (with his own private security of course). Well Done Donald! Now have some fun in the next couple months and pardon everyone under sun! By the way, censorship is not new in America. Read the Warren Report, the 9-11 Commission Report and countless other "official" narratives during the Great American Century.

shadow1369 5 hours ago

It's everywhere. The bbc never fails to describe reports of ballot fraud as 'unsubstantiated' despite never once having used the word when reporting endlessly on he Russaiagate hoax. As for Biden corruption, they simply refused to mention that at all.

Ivan DeGaulle shadow1369 1 hour ago I love the 'false rumours' line.. because, if it was false? it's not a rumour but a lie! Reply SavantMan 3 hours ago

I don't know why it's so hard for people to simply stop using these platforms. The more people use them, the more empowered these corrupt platforms are. I just don't get it. Why would anyone still use such corrupt and biased platforms is truly mind boggling.

UshouldKnow SavantMan 3 hours ago

The people are brainwashed by the MSM and the alphabet agencies which have a monopoly on the "news." As a result the masses have no idea what's really going on. Many are addicted to Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al just as they are to sports and other distractions. And what are the alternatives? The 3 platforms referenced above are so ubiquitous they have no competition. I agree people should wean themselves away from them but it isn't easy. That being said, "My Space" is not a thing anymore, so it is possible, but first people have to wake up.

Avaron 3 hours ago

Trump's worst mistake was staying with Twitter. Now they keep on censoring his tweets. He should have moved to a different platform when he became the president, then advertised it on twitter. So people would come to that platform instead of twitter.

muahaha 4 hours ago

Maybe, but anyway, he's done after the evil things he did, not before. And everyone knew what he was doing. That's the pity.

Daffyduck011 7 hours ago

We dont need anymore examples. Facebook Twitter YouTube Google and the MSM have an agenda. It is globalism. Trump was a nationalist and a Republican. So if you are a socialist and a globalist you should use these entities. If you are not you must boycott these entities.

Daffyduck011 3 hours ago

It's not socialism, you need to crack a book. What this is: Bolshevism (Zionist-sponsored)

shadow1369 Daffyduck011 5 hours ago

US tech giants are corporate fascists, the exact opposite of socialists.

[Nov 07, 2020] If they can do the three year long Russia-gate conspiracy, they can certainly do a three day long vote conspiracy.

Highly recommended!
Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Athletic and Whitesplosive , says: Next New Comment November 7, 2020 at 6:20 pm GMT • 14 minutes ago

@Anatoly Karlin ps would rather have more influence in governing than less, but they aren't particularly troubled by dem victory (principled defeat forms a big part of their rhetoric and the basis of many rep careers). Both the senior and junior members of the ruling class would truly like to see Trump gone, the faction that Trump represents is a very small minority in American government, without much institutional influence. And in this election in particular they made out like bandits, flipped a lot of seats to their side, and got rid of the primary opponent of principled cuckservatism, win-win! Seems to me when the defense and the prosecution both want the same thing, arguments in favor of a "fair" process should be viewed with extreme suspicion.
Bill Jones , says: November 7, 2020 at 6:20 pm GMT • 14 minutes ago

But to have large scale fraud, you need a conspiracy, which is hard because leakage is possible

Grow up.
If they can do the three year long Russia-gate conspiracy, they can certainly do a three day long vote conspiracy.

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump did well with the Black vote everywhere except Milwaukee, Detroit and the surrounding counties, Philadelphia and Atlanta. Oddly all the places voting was halted and votes were dumped.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

LondonBob , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:38 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago

@ThreeCranes

Trump did well with the Black vote everywhere except Milwaukee, Detroit and the surrounding counties, Philadelphia and Atlanta. Oddly all the places voting was halted and votes were dumped.

LondonBob , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago
@Shortsword he incumbent next election, like with Reagan. Polling showed Trump picked up the Mormon and pearl clutchers this time.

Amusing to read the Isaac Saul gibberish purporting to debunk the dead people voting in Michigan, he claims the blacks there check and discount any votes from dead people, no doubt quickly and efficiently. They presumably then do exhaustive investigations of why dead people are requesting absentee ballots and returning them.

Nothing to worry about, dead people often vote accidently after requesting absentee ballots, they definitely aren't counted and this practise is clearly investigated.

Johnny Walker Read , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:48 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

If you know not of which you speak, you probably shouldn't speak at all..

A gaming exercise of the perfect, indigenous color revolution, code-named Blue, was leaked from a major think tank established in the imperial lands that first designed the color revolution concept.

Blue concerns a presidential election in the Hegemon. In the gaming exercise, the incumbent president, codenamed Buffoon, was painted Red. The challenger, codenamed Corpse, was painted Blue.

Blue – the exercise – went up a notch because, compared to its predecessors, the starting point was not a mere insurgency, but a pandemic. Not any pandemic, but a really serious, bad to the bone global pandemic with an explosive infection fatality rate of less than 1%.

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/banana-follies-the-mother-of-all-color-revolutions/

Jtgw , says: November 7, 2020 at 1:01 pm GMT • 4.6 hours ago

I'm not convinced there wasn't fraud. However, fraud only works where the election is very close, which in a way means it's a statistical toss up whether a state goes for one candidate over the other. Whoever wins will not have a clear democratic mandate to govern.

Johnny Walker Read , says: November 7, 2020 at 1:08 pm GMT • 4.5 hours ago

As Paul Harvey used to say: "And Now For The Rest Of The Story"

Countdown to magic voting

Election Day comes. Vote counting is running smoothly – mail-in count, election day count, up to the minute tallies – but mostly favoring Red, especially in three states always essential for capturing the presidency. Red is also leading in what is characterized as "swing states".

But then, just as a TV network prematurely calls a supposedly assured Red state for Blue, all vote counting stops before midnight in major urban areas in key swing states under Blue governors, with Red in the lead.

Blue operators stop counting to check whether their scenario towards a Blue victory can roll out without bringing in mail-in ballots. Their preferred mechanism is to manufacture the "will of the people" by keeping up an illusion of fairness.

Yet they can always rely, as Plan B, on urban mail-in ballots on tap, hot and cold, until Blue squeaks by in two particularly key swing states that Red had bagged in a previous election.

That's what happens. Starting at 2 am, and later into the night, enter a batch of "magic" votes in these two key states. The sudden, vertical upward "adjustment" includes the case of a batch of 130k+ pro-Blue votes cast in a county alongside not a single pro-Red vote – a statistical miracle of Holy Ghost proportions.

Stuffing the ballot box is a typical scam applied in Banana Republic declinations of color revolution. Blue operators use the tried and tested method applied to the gold futures market, when a sudden drop of naked shorts drives down gold price, thus protecting the US dollar.

Blue operators bet the compliant mainstream media/Big Tech alliance will not question that, well, out of the blue, the vote would swing towards Blue in a 2 to 3 or 3 to 4 margin.

They bet no questions will be asked on how a 2% to 5% positive ballot trend in Red's favor in a few states turned into a 0.5% to 1.4% trend in favor of Blue by around 4am.

And that this discrepancy happens in two swing states almost simultaneously.

And that some precincts turn more presidential votes than they have registered voters.

And that in swing states, the number of extra mysterious votes for Blue far exceeds votes cast for the Senate candidates in these states, when the record shows that down ticket totals are traditionally close.

And that turnout in one of these states would be 89.25%.

The day after Election Day there are vague explanations that one of the possible vote-dumps was just a "clerical error", while in another disputed state there is no justification for accepting ballots with no postmark.

Blue operators relax because the mainstream media/Big Tech alliance squashes each and every complaint as "conspiracy theories".

Thanks to PEPE ESCOBAR for what I feel is the most honest look at the latest attempted election theft you will find.
https://www.unz.com/pescobar/banana-follies-the-mother-of-all-color-revolutions/

[Nov 07, 2020] When you fill up the mail in ballot for your demented grandmother this is a fraud though on a micro scale. But multiply it by thousand. Do it in nursing homes. Then do it in community centers in minority areas and ghettos for people who would never vote.

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... When you fill up the mail in ballot for your demented grandmother this is a fraud though on a micro scale. But multiply it by thousand. Do it in nursing homes. Then do it in community centers in minority areas and ghettos for people who would never vote. You incentivize them and twist their arms. ..."
"... A well oiled (with money) political party machine with motivated workers do it naturally; they can do it in their sleep. ..."
"... Fake polls were very important to demoralize and demotivate Republican voters, donors and, most importantly, on the ground election workers. ..."
"... I think you’re right that fraud was done at the micro-level. Easy to do and probably impossible to counter legally. ..."
Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

utu , says: November 7, 2020 at 3:45 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

@HyperDupont

“The most probable fraud would be ballot harvesting facilitated by the fact that millions of ballots were sent unsolicited based on lists including a significant proportion of people who have moved or are dead. “

When you fill up the mail in ballot for your demented grandmother this is a fraud though on a micro scale. But multiply it by thousand. Do it in nursing homes. Then do it in community centers in minority areas and ghettos for people who would never vote. You incentivize them and twist their arms. This is no different than ballot stuffing but impossible to be proven as a fraud, yet everybody knows about it:

Democrats return nearly three times as many mail-in ballots as Republicans in Pennsylvania
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/03/democrats-more-mail-in-ballots-pennsylvania-433951

Did it require conspiracy which both A. Karlin and New York Times

Republicans Claim Voter Fraud. How Would That Work

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/opinion/trump-voter-fraud-pennsylvania.html

claim is impossible because it would require too much of planning, coordination, secrecy? Absolutely not. A well oiled (with money) political party machine with motivated workers do it naturally; they can do it in their sleep.

How do you get the motivated workers and why it was for Republicans harder to emulate Democrats’ shenanigans? Very simple. The full spectrum dominance in media; creation of Trump derangement syndrome that removes any inhibition to win; most importantly the sense of doom for Trump supporters by fake polls predicting two digit Biden’s win.

The meme of ‘shy Trump supporters’ is a fake invented in 2016 to explain away the fake poll results.

Fake polls were very important to demoralize and demotivate Republican voters, donors and, most importantly, on the ground election workers.

This article is another example of author’s psychopathology. A cowardly bully who position himself on the side of the winner and takes a pleasure in rubbing it in to the losers.

Bert says: November 7, 2020 at 4:02 pm GMT

@utu I don’t have an opinion about AK’s personality, but otherwise I think you’re right that fraud was done at the micro-level. Easy to do and probably impossible to counter legally.

[Nov 07, 2020] Election fraud is part of Oligarch privately owned government scenario

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

sally , says: November 7, 2020 at 3:41 pm GMT • 2.9 hours ago

Election fraud is part of Oligarch privately owned government scenario.. Ho hum.. '

Defending the Republicans when they had a reputaturd congress and a reputaturd president and still did not fix the major frauds.. perpetrated by the private interest that own the USA that governs innocent Americans.

Its like media fraud, both parties condone it because they are both guilty. Last night I my os provider uploaded to every file in my browser and on my computer crhoms disease spyware..

what's the different if its search engine fraud or select the information you are allowed/not allowed to see fraud or denial of service fraud, or break and enter fraud. And even when some whistleblower points it out the USA prosecutes him or her.

Its private parties doing their USA assisted frauds designed to bilk the America public. Time for a change we need a different government, one that responds only to the governed.

No more voting districts, vote by state, or electoral college, no more laws passed without approval from the governed.. no more government agencies to license a few to bilk the many.. its time for a change..

[Nov 07, 2020] Biden had about as much chance of winning Georgia legitimately as he has of running the 40 in 4.3 or hitting a ball out of Yankee stadium.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Trinity , says: November 7, 2020 at 1:36 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago

@E. Harding

... I know this state like the back of my hand, and despite the influx of Yankees to metro Atlanta and the Georgia mountains, hell, many of them were Trump supporters, and despite Brown Mexican and El Salvadoran factory workers, and the abundance of Africans In America, Georgia is still red as in redneck. The only thing blue in Georgia is a Pabst Blue Ribbon beer. Rednecks, white socks and Blue Ribbon beer, yawl. hehe.

Biden had about as much chance of winning Georgia legitimately as he has of running the 40 in 4.3 or hitting a ball out of Yankee stadium.

[Nov 07, 2020] Harvesting black votes as a fraud

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

ThreeCranes , says: November 7, 2020 at 10:06 am GMT • 7.6 hours ago

Anatoly, the fraud in this election was of a kind you did not address. To understand American election fraud you must go back in time to see context.

Historically, American blacks showed the least interest in voting of any ethnic group. This gave them zero impact in politics. Jewish activists decided to reverse this trend and tap into this vein of unexploited Democratic power. "Community Organizers" were charged with encouraging black vote in the inner city ghettos. One such became president.

When this failed to produce the desired results they upped their game by actually providing vans to drive people to polling places. But this proved to be too much trouble and still wasn't efficient enough so they refined the technique by pushing for absentee balloting which allowed blacks to vote from the comforts of home. Also, Jewish legal activists pushed for proxy voting, which allowed third parties to cast the vote for registered voters.

It is relatively easy to organize this type of thing in large public housing blocks. Everyone is in one place, mailing lists are available etc.

This is how the "cheating" took place. The percentage of blacks who voted in this election is unprecedented. Now some may argue that this is a good thing, representative democracy and all. But the counter argument is that if a person is too lazy to get to the polls under his own power then they don't deserve representation.

But more importantly, ballot harvesting allows votes to be purchased and this doesn't seem to embody the proverbial spirit of democracy.

It would be easy to refute my theory. Just show that blacks districts in America did not turn out in greater numbers in 2020 than they had, proportionately, eight, twenty or forty years ago.

"Ballot harvesting is the process where organized workers or volunteers–people you don't know–collect absentee ballots from voters and drop them off at a polling place or election office."

ThreeCranes , says: November 7, 2020 at 10:16 am GMT • 7.4 hours ago

From the NYPost

"A ballot-harvesting racket in Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar's Minneapolis district -- where paid workers illegally gather absentee ballots from elderly Somali immigrants -- appears to have been busted by undercover news organization Project Veritas.

One alleged ballot harvester, Liban Mohamed, the brother of Minneapolis City Council member Jamal Osman, is shown in a bombshell Snapchat video rifling through piles of ballots strewn across his dashboard.

"Just today we got 300 for Jamal Osman," says Mohamed, aka KingLiban1, in the video. "I have 300 ballots in my car right now . . .

"Numbers don't lie. You can see my car is full. All these here are absentee ballots. . . . Look, all these are for Jamal Osman," he says, displaying the white envelopes.

"Money is the king in this world . . . and a campaign is driven by money."

The video, posted on July 1, was obtained by Project Veritas and included in a 17-minute video expose released Sunday night.

Under Minnesota law, no individual can be the "designated agent" for more than three absentee voters. The allegations come just five weeks before a presidential election plagued with predictions of voter fraud. Both President Trump and Attorney General Bill Barr have warned that the increased use of mail-in ballots, due to COVID-19 concerns about in-person voting, is vulnerable to fraud, especially when unsolicited ballots are mailed to all voters in certain states.

Project Veritas' investigation in Minneapolis will pour gasoline on the fire, only 48 hours before Trump debates Joe Biden in the first presidential debate Tuesday, addressing topics including election security."

[Nov 07, 2020] Well as long as there are excuses for all the horse shit, then I'm satisfied. Especially since those excuses are coming from the same power structure that gave us weapons of mass destruction and Trump is a Russian asset.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Gleimhart Mantooso , says: November 7, 2020 at 7:41 am GMT • 10.0 hours ago

Well as long as there are excuses for all the horse shit, then I'm satisfied. Especially since those excuses are coming from the same power structure that gave us weapons of mass destruction and Trump is a Russian asset.

Quick! Gaslight me some more!

[Nov 07, 2020] 'The Hammer' And 'Scorecard': Weapons Of Mass (Vote) Manipulation?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Johnny Walker Read , says: November 7, 2020 at 4:00 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago

'The Hammer' And 'Scorecard': Weapons Of Mass (Vote) Manipulation?

In February 2009, the Obama administration commandeered a powerful supercomputer system known as THE HAMMER.

THE HAMMER includes an exploit application known as SCORECARD that is capable of hacking into elections and stealing the vote, according to CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who designed and built THE HAMMER.

https://www.technocracy.news/the-hammer-and-scorecard-weapons-of-mass-vote-manipulation/

Anonymous Jew , says: November 7, 2020 at 4:56 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago
@Rosie

Because they're in power and power corrupts. Plus the general arrogance of Leftist ideology. Look at Hunter Biden. They just don't even care to pretend anymore.

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump actually got 10% more of votes, in absolute numbers, than in 2016. So Biden surpassing him is an extreme anomaly. In some places supposedly there was a turnout of 90%. Very unusual with optional voting and in an extreme period.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Dumbo , says: November 7, 2020 at 7:22 am GMT • 10.3 hours ago

There was fraud for sure. No need to dig into the county numbers. Just the fact that Crazy Uncle Biden became the most popular candidate in the history of presidential elections is suspicious. Trump actually got 10% more of votes, in absolute numbers, than in 2016. So Biden surpassing him is an extreme anomaly. In some places supposedly there was a turnout of 90%. Very unusual with optional voting and in an extreme period. Also, there was always fraud (in limited numbers). It's so easy to fraud votes in the U.S., it's not even funny. It's harder to fraud votes in one of those "3rd world countries" that followers of the "HBD cult" tend to disparage.

My reading:
1. The Chinese in collusion with Dems create "Covid" Lockdown operation
(more info at https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1324079045072556034.html )
2. The "Lockdown" benefits Dems in at least two ways: an artificial crisis is created, and people are forced to vote by mail, which is easier to fraud. (not to mention of course the possibilities of control, so that it is likely it will continue for a while, even after fulfilling its initial function).
3. Fraud, fraud, fraud.
4. Biden "wins", and becomes the "most voted candidate ever." Everybody laughs and has a good time.

[Nov 07, 2020] So just the same, regarding the Kennedy assasinations, Iran-Contra, 9/11/ the fake Arab spring etc the official line is true, because the conspiracy theorists were never allowed to read their versions in the accepted News outlets? It is not the case that whistleblowers were threatened and witnesses killed?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Refl , says: November 7, 2020 at 8:45 am GMT • 8.9 hours ago

@Dave Pinsen tly executed conspiracy, yes, but Ukrainegate was deranged idiocy from day one. And – hold your breath – Covid19 is a deranged idiocy on an astronomical scale.

The theory of the useless, toasted conspirationalist that I am is, that we are witnessing a large scale operation of psychological warfare: The point is to dump down the people and to have them believe in ever more stupid BS. The more intelligent ones – above all those in relevant positions in society – are being willfully demoralized.

The endgame will be the abolishment of functional modern society as we know it.

Greta forever!

[Nov 07, 2020] They don't print money these days, they punch a value into a computer. Same with votes.

Notable quotes:
"... Trump did what he really wanted to do: tax cuts (mainly corporate taxes), deregulation, anything Netanyahu wanted, and not starting a new war. People always manage to do what they put first. Clearly helping the white male workers has not been a priority. So he lost. ..."
"... that being said, all Trump had to do was deliver for his voters, but instead he decided to spend 4 years going after the votes of people who will never vote for him. so this situation is partly of his own making. instead of going -5 with european men, he should have been +3 at least. maybe +5. that would have produced a big electoral college win. ..."
Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Max Payne , says: November 6, 2020 at 11:45 pm GMT • 17.9 hours ago

You people seriously expect that level of competence from inner city Dems?

Not so naive. More like cabals in NSA/SiGINT. Nothing crude like driving a probable-cause van with mail-in votes .its 2020 . They don't print money these days, they punch a value into a computer. Same with votes. Shiiieeeeettttt for enough money I'd do it. Find like-minded individuals in the organization to help me for a cut. You underestimate greed son. And crime obviously has an element of risk. Whats your point? If it goes belly up I know I'll be Oswalded like the patsy I am but hey . No one said it was easy.

Not like CIA is going to let anyone know they rooted out members of signal intelligence abusing their positions. Imagine the embarrassment. Hell RT reported an election bug in Michigan already.

Besides Biden just needs to be off his meds for 3 days and he'll forget everything. Manchurian candidate style. Now that I think about it

E. Harding , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:27 am GMT • 17.2 hours ago

Indeed, Anatoly.

Two basic facts:

1. Trump lost three urban counties in Florida he won in 2016 (Seminole, Pinellas, Duval)

2. The only states with reasonably completed vote counts that show better Trump margins in 2020 than in 2016 are Hawaii (always a pro-incumbent state), Florida (LATINOS), Arkansas (Clinton home state reversion effect -its rural areas were notably more Democratic than those just across the border in Missouri in 2016; this has been rectified), and Utah (McMullin reversion effect). Other than these four demographically unusual states, there is no sign Trump has gained net support in any state since 2016. NV, NY, MS, IL, OH, and AK are nowhere close to done counting. Given that he won by three quarters of a percentage point in 2016, it's no surprise that a two point swing against him resulted in a loss, especially when the losses were concentrated in major metros. It's not fraud, folks, the candidate was just unpopular due to his COVID response. Luis Lacalle Pou would have won in a massive landslide.

Interestingly, I'm sort of surprised the allegations of election stealing were all from the Democratic side last time in Florida and especially Georgia (even though Florida's result was more shaky, Abrams had more bioleninist pokemon points than poor old Nelson). No Republicans tried to challenge Scott Walker's narrow loss as fraudulent.

Julius Branson , says: Website November 7, 2020 at 12:40 am GMT • 17.0 hours ago
@Anatoly Karlin

Fraud deniers are fucking retarded. You think you're subtle and sophisticated when really you're just a Ptolemyist adding more epicycles. Benford's law provesfraud happened and it stole the Great Lake states from Trump. This is comming from someone with a track record of criticizing Trump for being anti-white. Why? Because fraud happened, period.

E. Harding , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:51 am GMT • 16.8 hours ago

Why should we expect pro-Democratic fraud in Wisconsin? If anything, judging from the vote numbers in neighboring (and uncompetitive) Minnesota and Indiana, Wisconsin's vote numbers look too Republican . Indiana currently shows up as swinging against Trump by 3.42 points, Minnesota by 5.6 points, Wisconsin by only 1.39 points. Trump won Wisconsin in 2016 by only .76 points. The Antrim County error is obvious and currently shows up like a major splotch on the swing map; it is nowhere near large enough to affect the outcome of any statewide election. Antrim County contains 17K voters; Biden is leading in MI by a margin of 146K votes. The real trouble for Trump is in Michigan's South, in the metropolitan belt between Oakland County and Ottawa County. This region is filled with those college-educated White men who voted for Trump in 2016, but, seeing the disaster his presidency imposed on the economy, decided to vote for Biden in 2020. There is no pro-Dem fraud here, just MAGA cope that America hasn't been made great again, and never will be made great again.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmLZLLAWMAIfA3k?format=png&name=360×360

Note the red splotch in Antrim County up top; it will be fixed soon. All numbers are from the U.S. Election Atlas.

Rosie , says: November 7, 2020 at 1:02 am GMT • 16.6 hours ago
@Dave Pinsen

Update: looks like GoFundMe took down that analyst's fundraiser to raise money for the data costs:

Damn that's suspicious. Why do they do things like that?

Julius Branson , says: November 7, 2020 at 1:53 am GMT • 15.8 hours ago
@E. Harding

You sound like a sniveling little nerd demanding that I work my ass off to prove the obvious. Cringe.

Beckow , says: November 7, 2020 at 1:59 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago

Trump lost 5% of his share among white male voters. That's why he lost. All else were details.

Why he lost the %5? Trump run a campaign heavily promoting bulls..t optimism about the economy, boasting about the ' lowest black unemployment ', and failing to deliver Phase II of the stimulus. Plus he has done close to nothing about the continuing massive importation of migrant cheap workers, from service workers to H1B's from India. Why the hell should white males vote for him after 4 years of promises? On a remote chance that he would actually make their concerns a priority in his 2nd term?

Trump did what he really wanted to do: tax cuts (mainly corporate taxes), deregulation, anything Netanyahu wanted, and not starting a new war. People always manage to do what they put first. Clearly helping the white male workers has not been a priority. So he lost.

E. Harding , says: November 7, 2020 at 2:13 am GMT • 15.4 hours ago

Also, funny thing, but Trump actually did better in the actual untrustworthy urban areas (inner city Philly, Chicago, Essex and Hudson Counties) than he did last time. His losses were among college-educated White men, not among inner-city minorities.

@Beckow

The annoying thing is that Trump actually won Mahoning County, Ohio, this time. So he actually did pretty well in 2020 among the more vatnik portions of the WWC. Among the more Puritan portions (e.g., in New England, the UP, and parts of Wisconsin), he obviously did worse.

@nickels

Trump doing better in only four-five states is not "mathy bullshit".

Hardy , says: November 7, 2020 at 3:03 am GMT • 14.6 hours ago

Seems obvious that moderates turned against Trump. With the extreme polarization, that explains most of these cases that people believe to be anomalies. Trump's republican turnout was huge, but he lost the moderates, so he lost the election. Republicans simply cannot win the presidency on Reagan era talking points anymore.

prime noticer , says: November 7, 2020 at 4:00 am GMT • 13.7 hours ago

nah. democrats clearly cheated. and this time, they went all out, and why not? it's a coup. all they have to do is win this one last time, and they'll never have to worry about republicans ever again. they won't be investigated once democrats are in control of the government, and now they'll be in control of the government forever. amnesty coming up next, to lock in the permanent democrat monopoly.

so yeah. they cheated by historical, ludicrous margins. they were committed to the steal, and succeeded, with their allies in the media.

that being said, all Trump had to do was deliver for his voters, but instead he decided to spend 4 years going after the votes of people who will never vote for him. so this situation is partly of his own making. instead of going -5 with european men, he should have been +3 at least. maybe +5. that would have produced a big electoral college win.

Yevardian , says: November 7, 2020 at 5:24 am GMT • 12.3 hours ago
@Hardy 2016 election, and spent this campaign running a boilerplate Republican campaign of tax cuts, Israel first, socialism-for-the-rich, and utterly shameless pandering to blacks, whilst entirely ignoring his blue-collar base (which, if he actually pursued, probably would have picked a significant Hispanic vote, alongside the Midwest).

His Presidency will go down as a failure. But most of all, a massive wasted opportunity, he totally squandered his mandate in the most stupid and self-destructive manner possible (appointed dozens of his sworn-enemies, for starters) almost immediately after getting elected.

El Dato , says: November 7, 2020 at 6:52 am GMT • 10.8 hours ago
@Blackjack2826 ef="https://www.rt.com/op-ed/505945-america-election-system-mistrust/"> The US political system is the last thing holding the country together; the 2020 election is about to destroy it

Research has shown that revolutions tend to happen not when things are bad, but when there are "rising expectations" and people believe things aren't improving quickly enough. Whether these revolutionaries will really "settle" for President Biden or President Harris, or will they push for their utopia even harder, is a question no one seems to be asking, much less trying to answer.

RichardTaylor , says: November 7, 2020 at 7:15 am GMT • 10.4 hours ago

What are the prospects of more friendly relations between the White people of America who aren't self-hating and the Russian people? Could there be a way to build bonds?

And would Russia consider creating a platform that White Americans and Europeans could use, since it looks like authentic voices are all shut down in the West?

[Nov 07, 2020] The frauds that happened in these elections are normal, inherent to the system and happen in every elections. I don't see the results overall as fake.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Nov 7 2020 14:44 utc | 48

7) The frauds that happened in these elections are normal, inherent to the system and happen in every elections. I don't see the results overall as fake. Biden did receive more votes than Trump, and he deserves to be the new POTUS. That's who the American people are - look yourself in the mirror.

[Nov 07, 2020] In Michigan, alone, 47 counties effected beside Antrim county

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Contagion Deleverage , 23 minutes ago

In Michigan, alone, 47 counties effected beside Antrim county:

- 6,000 votes taken FROM Trump

- while 6,000 votes GIVEN to OBiden ben Hidin' (demBallots).

- the difference in the vote swing: 12,000 votes PER COUNTY

- 48 counties times 12,000 votes PER COUNTY

- 504,000 VOTES ARE ON THE TABLE AND OFF THE TABLE

THE REAL DIFFERENCE IN THE VOTE IS

252,000 VOTES IN FAVOUR OF TRUMP

AND 252,000 VOTES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN FROM BRIBEM OBIDEN ben HIDIN' (demBallots).

Trump won the Popular vote, by a landslide!

Cock Strong , 22 minutes ago

Not every county is the same population but I get your drift.

The First Rule , 3 minutes ago

Its even worse than you know:

Sidney Powell -- Hammer and Scorecard were used to steal election – CITIZEN FREE PRESS

This is how Biden is getting 100,000 or so EXTRA VOTES than the Democrat Senate Candidate in Each SWING STATE, and only in Swing States. ZH noticed this exact thing the other day.

[Nov 07, 2020] Factors that increased plausibility of the hypothesis that Dems fixed 2020 elections

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

Bob P , says: Next New Comment November 7, 2020 at 6:09 pm GMT • 25 minutes ago

Sure: First set up the expectation that Trump will lose with biased polls and massively biased MSM and social media; then use the China virus to push for mail votes, which opens the door to massive fraud; then slant news coverage so Biden is always leading – keep that narrative going – to such an extent that the Pacific states were called for Biden within a few minutes of the polls closing while Florida still wasn't called when Trump had had an insurmountable lead for hours;

Then when Trump was about to surge ahead anyway, they stop the count; that gave the Democrats the time they needed to determine how many phony ballots they needed, which were duly delivered at 4 in the morning

Huge jumps from Biden-only votes occur out of the blue in two states (two typos at once!); then expel observers–in some cases only Republican–who were supposed to be afforded access, even defying court orders, so that any cheating could not be observed; then ignore red flags such as Biden winning the state but Republicans taking the Senate and House seats

Ignore evidence of postal workers backdating vote receipt; ignore discrepancies between Biden's performance in swing state cities–with huge percentages in his favour–as opposed to other states where Biden only marginally outperforms Trump in cities

Ignore the precincts–all Democrats strongholds–where votes exceed registered voters; ignore clear evidence of dead people voting; ignore evidence of people voting in states where they no longer live; ignore the vast increase in voter participation where Democrats take the vast majority of votes; ignore bunches of votes going to Biden when they were actually meant for Trump, then labeling them glitches–notice all the typos, errors, and glitches go against Trump.

Finally, have MSM ignore all the above or issue laughable excuses, and delete any references to any of it on social media, going as far as deleting Tweets from the President of the United States!

Sure, Anatoly, it's all above board.

[Nov 07, 2020] Granny farming and other forms of mail-in votes abuse

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Richard Steven Hack , Nov 7 2020 13:16 utc | 16

MAIL-IN VOTING: Sifting through the misinformation

The article is specific to Reno, Nevada, but the discussion is applicable to other states.


False Claim 4: Ballot harvesting and 'granny farming'

In August, Nevada passed AB4, which clarifies who can collect ballots. According to language in AB4, "a person authorized by the voter may return the mail ballot on behalf of the voter by mail or personal delivery to the county or city clerk." There are strict regulations against any unauthorized person interfering with the return of mail-in ballots.

Yet, there have been misleading claims from critics of mail-in ballots that this would lead to ballot harvesting. The accusation is that dishonest people will go to assisted living homes and manipulate grandmas into giving away their ballots for harvesting.

Lately, ballot harvesting is being talked about as a malpractice. But this has been a common, legal practice of collecting and submitting the ballots by specified agents such as family members, authorized legal guardians and, in some states, paid staff where harvesting is legal, such as in California and Colorado. Some states have limitations in place on how many ballots a paid agent can collect.

In the current political climate, politicians have painted a picture of an agent running off with someone else's ballot or "one of the post guys" delivering a "handful of" ballots "to some Democratic political operative," as President Trump claimed at his September rally in Minden. Comments like these create an image of lawlessness, incompetency and chaos and can scare law-abiding citizens. However, the checks and balances embedded in AB4 make it nearly impossible for anyone to collect ballots without authorization.

In parts of rural and frontier Nevada, some voters have said ballot collection is a lifeline.

And this article comments:


And yes, The New York Times published a report in 2012 suggesting that mail-in voting would lead to fraud. As I wrote at the time, the story quoted a former county attorney in Florida, who was concerned about "granny farming." This is where fraudsters allegedly go into nursing homes and "help" elderly people vote by more or less filling out their ballots for them and mailing them in.

Related
Why Trump supports mail-in voting in Florida and not in Nevada

But the story never attempted to document this happening. In any event, it would be a slow and laborious way to alter an election, and easily detectable by nursing home officials who, especially in today's pandemic, ought to monitor visitors carefully.

Back then, the Times noted, mail-in voting was seen as a way to help Republicans win. "In the 2008 general election in Florida," the story said, "47% of absentee voters were Republicans and 36% were Democrats."

Today, President Donald Trump seems worried it will help Democrats.

The vote-by-mail bogeyman, it seems, can be a convenient tool for whichever party feels the need to use it.

Credible evidence suggests all this is overblown. A study earlier this year by Daniel Thompson, Jesse Yoder, Jennifer Wu and Andrew Hall of Stanford University concluded, "In normal times, based on our data at least, vote-by-mail modestly increases participation while not advantaging either party."

Part of that data came from Utah, one of five states that conduct all mail-in voting. Utah has phased this in since 2012. As a Deseret News story this week suggested, the Beehive State knows how to do it right. It has safeguards in place. No one has alleged widespread fraud here.

It's one thing to wave hands and speculate on various forms of vote fraud. It's another to produce actual evidence of any widespread use - and yet another to produce actual evidence that it has happened over the last few days in this election. b has elected to not do so, but rely on the same innuendo and speculation the Trump supporters do.

However, I do agree with the rest of b's analysis. The Biden-Harris administration will be a nightmare just as much as Trump's was. And yes, I expect them to start a war with Iran once Biden's fake attempt to restart the JCPOA is rejected by Iran due to demands over Iran's ballistic missile program. And I expect "Trumpism" - as they are calling the populist movement - to continue going forward with negative results for the country.

But it's ridiculous to start eulogizing Trump as if he wasn't the worst President in US history - which he was. He was certainly the biggest joke President in US history. Even Clinton's blue dress didn't rise to the level of Trump.


librul , Nov 7 2020 13:51 utc | 27

@Posted by: visak | Nov 7 2020 13:39 utc | 23

The NYT is not trying to "lie", they are trying to serve a narrative.

In 2012 when the NYT addressed mail-in ballots they did not know at that time
what narrative they would be selling in 2020.

visak , Nov 7 2020 13:58 utc | 31

librul@27 "The NYT is not trying to "lie", they are trying to serve a narrative."

The track record of the NYT is indisputable concerning their history of lying.

You exhibit olympic level gymnastics here. What is the difference between lieing and serving a narrative?

Perhaps if I could figure out how your brain is able to do this I would have the answer to my question.

librul , Nov 7 2020 14:19 utc | 35

@Posted by: visak | Nov 7 2020 13:58 utc | 31

The NYT does not **set out** to lie, they lie, lie, lie
and then lie again; but they **set out** to serve a narrative.

If the truth serves that narrative then the NYT will tell the truth.
They did not **set out** to tell the truth, the truth just **happened** to
serve a narrative.

"What is the difference between lying and serving a narrative?" - visak
When someone serves a narrative they are not necessarily lying it might just
serve the narrative to tell the truth. When someone is lying then they are lying, period.

[Nov 07, 2020] Who is against re-counts?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

lizzie dw , Nov 7 2020 14:02 utc | 33

Who is against re-counts? If 133,000 votes had been dumped at 4 o'clock in the morning ALL for Trump, the Dems. would have had a court case going for a re-count 15 minutes later. What is sauce for the goose...... I am all for re-counts. If it was right the first time it will be right the second.

vig , Nov 7 2020 14:12 utc | 34

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 7 2020 13:16 utc | 16

I am getting so tired of the US and US politics and the US election circus ...

But concerning Nevada, you may want to check Jonathan Turley:
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/11/06/what-happens-in-vegas-may-not-stay-in-vegas-why-the-nevada-challenge-could-be-important-to-the-presidential-election/

[Nov 07, 2020] Anyone surprised the same neoliberal MSM who protected and worked for the Biden campaign, now are working with him to claim a victory?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Your account is currently banned , 14 minutes ago

Here's a thought exercise tards:

So how many times has Donnie said he was going to do something and then didn't follow through? ICE raids, wall, border security, Hillbags in prison, Russiagate investigations, etc., etc., etc.

So now Donnie is going to fight this election fraud (which BTW he created a task force in 2017 and then quickly disbanded). And you actually believe it.

LOL.

fxrxexexdxoxmx2 , 20 minutes ago

Anyone surprised the same media who protected and worked for the Biden campaign are working with him to claim an ilegall victory?

[Nov 07, 2020] They have been "caught", it just doesn't matter. Remember Russiagate hoax? Is anybody of organizers in jail now?

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

TheMann , says: November 7, 2020 at 12:35 pm GMT • 5.1 hours ago

So let me get this straight-

You acknowledge that there is a systematic and organized effort, a conspiracy, dare I say, on the part of the Media, Tech giants, and Democratic Party to systematically censor, basically, the entire Country, BUT .

The very same actors couldn't organize a massive vote fraud because they would get caught.

You have managed a twofer, logically inconsistent, and wrong. They have been "caught " it just doesn't matter.

[Nov 07, 2020] Processing Center Percentages are "Not" On Time Delivery Percentages

Nov 07, 2020 | angrybearblog.com

November 7, 2020 11:24 am

The daily numbers being reported do not indicate how much of the mail was delivered on time, i.e., within the service standard of two or three days. These numbers are processing scores, i.e., the percent of the ballots that went through the processing network on time. They do not encompass

Does not matter. As long as mail arrived to the post office after the deadline this should be registered as late in the database and returned to the sender as late. Otherwise you enter "flexible deadline" regime which invites abuse, as in 24 hours preliminary results are known.

What is important is to make obligatory presence of at least two observers from each party during counting of votes. all the time. And 100% time videotaping of the process.

Also mail ballots historically were the source of blatant abuse (it is much easier to bribe a person and fill the ballot for him than force him to go to the voting booth and enter names that you want).

The fact that in some places we have abnormally high, close to the USSR levels percentages of voters participation is a red flag.

Anything above 60 percent or ten year average (whatever is higher) in the USA is highly suspect of manipulation by one or another party and should invite investigation and possibly recounting.

Few people were exited by this election (and especially by Trump or Biden personalities -- Buffoon vs Corpse as one think talk named them in their simulation of 2020 elections ).

Most votes were perverted version of lesser evilism -- people voted for the candidate they hated less, while they hated both.

And this is a part and parcel of the Crisis of neoliberalism which we experience which involved de-legitimization of neoliberal elite and PMC -- professional, managerial class -- intelligentsia as French call them )

And such cases, unfortunately, easily can be played to de-legitimize elections (which is a typical tactic of color revolutions for those who do not know the term). Which is what happening now as a replay of 2016 but from Repug side.

Historically Democratic Party specialized in election rigging via party machine mechanisms. They have been doing it since the 1790s. They were the party of political machines -- Tammany, Pendergast, Cook County.

BTW clear glass ballot boxes were invented in the USA to prevent abuse (including use of hidden pockets pre-staffed with ballots )

Here are some warning signs listed by Ron Paul:

Every state that has had a delay has seen Biden has overtaken trump AFTER the delays were announced – Red flag

Florida counted 10.5M votes in less than 24 hours, Georgia couldn't count 4.8M in 48 hours, why? – Red Flag

In PA, the courts have barred all accredited observers from observing the vote – Red Flag

In Detroit, the ballot counting centers barred windows and expelled observers, why? – Red Flag

David Lim (Obama's former speech writer) sent a tweet out on Nov 4 (AFTER the election) asking for volunteers in Georgia to help people fix their mail in ballots so that they count, why? – Red Flag

Participation in one PA county reached 90% turn out, beating the prior record that had stood for more than 100 years and almost 30% higher than the last election in 2016. Other PA counties saw voter numbers exceed 100% of registered voters compared to the last election, even accounting for same day registration this is statistically improbable- Red Flag

[Nov 07, 2020] Nevada GOP Sends Criminal Referral to DOJ for 'Instances of Voter Fraud'

Nov 07, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

The Nevada Republican Party announced Thursday evening that its legal team has sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department regarding alleged voter fraud in the Silver State's 2020 presidential election and predicted the number of instances of fraud will grow in the coming days.

"Our lawyers just sent a criminal referral to AG Barr regarding at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud," the Nevada GOP's official account wrote on Twitter. "We expect that number to grow substantially. Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from NV."

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The announcement comes hours after the Trump campaign filing a federal lawsuit in Las Vegas in an effort to halt the counting of what it described was "illegal votes" in Nevada. The campaign alleges deceased individuals and nonresidents cast ballots in the state's election.

Fox News reports: "The Trump campaign alleges there are "tens of thousands" of people who voted in Nevada who are no longer state residents. The campaign said it is not seeking to stop the vote but rather ensure that every "legal" vote is counted and that no "illegal" votes are counted."

"We are confident that when all legal votes are tallied -- and only legal votes are tallied -- President Trump will win the state of Nevada," Former Director of National Intelligence Ric Grenell said in a statement to Fox News.

Grenell and other Trump campaign surrogates such as former Nevada Attorney General Adam Laxalt and chairman of the American Conservative Union Matt Schlapp, said in a press conference that "transparency is not political."

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"Ballots are not automatically legal votes until they are checked," stated Grenell. "We are not being allowed to check."

"If you haven't been in the state for 30 days, it is illegal to vote," the former Trump administration official continued. "The fact is, we are filing this federal lawsuit to protect legal voters."

"It is unacceptable in this country to have illegal votes counted, and that's what's happening in the state of Nevada," he added.

BelieveMe Rawrane an hour ago • edited

Federal standards for Federal elections. NO ballot harvesting! NO mass mailings of ballots! NO non-citizen voting! Poll watchers MANDATORY! We are a Banana Republic thanks to Democrats! Tonopah Raptormann 3 hours ago

Electors can be picked by state legislators without a vote from the people if they set it up that way as some early states did that. Back when state also picked their senators. Regardless of all else only the state legislature can say how their electors are picked, not AG's or voting committees. Kathleen brand-x 10 hours ago

California lets anyone vote who wants to vote. They never remove dead voters from the rolls. When I worked at the LA County Fair, people complained all the time that their dead relative was still getting a ballot even though they had notified the Registrar of Voters. When I poll watched four years ago, I checked the list of registered voters in my condo complex. I noticed that many dead residents were still registered to vote. Residents who had sold their condos and moved, were still registered to vote. CA doesn't require Voter ID. When I poll watched this year, there was no posted list of registered voters because people in LA County can vote at any polling place in the county. This year, people could drop their ballots in special mail boxes marked " Mail In Votes." There was early voting for both mail in and walk in voting. Why bother to count the actual ballots when the system is so corrupt. Just call it any way you want, like Fox News. Zero Kelvin Cletus Roscoe Jr. 11 hours ago

Every western countries in the world require ID when you go to vote in person. Only in banana republic America where ID is not require to vote. In Canada, you can vote early, 3 or 4 weeks before Election Day, but you have to bring ID to vote. So the whole notion that voter ID is voter suppression is garbage.
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Cletus Roscoe Jr. 11 hours ago

Support Election Reform, by 2024:
1. Ballots should be like communion. Given ONLY to people who claim to be worthy AND actually request a ballot for the upcoming election. No mass mailings of communion, OK?
2. Voter ID is a must, and since Social Security chip-enabled cards are way overdue-- issue everybody a new high tech SS card that can easily double as a national voter ID card for 2024.
3. A thumbprint scan is taken using the Social Security card to get the ballot EVERY election. Clearly, this doesnt help much in the first election (but it would prevent one person from submitting multiple ballots) but in future elections the thumbprint could be forever matched to one's chip-enabled Social Security card.
Feel this is too intrusive? Then, dont vote.

[Nov 07, 2020] Evidence Mounts of a Stolen Election by Paul Craig Roberts

Nov 07, 2020 | www.unz.com

United States Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney explains a special software developed by the National Security Agency that can be used to alter vote counts in elections. He explains the software and its use in this 7 minute video: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-cia-ability-to-hack-the-vote/

In this article, the Off-Guardian explains the use of the software to alter the outcome of the vote in Wisconsin and Michigan: https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/03/discuss-election-day/

In this article the Fake News Site, CNN, attempts to explain away the obviously altered vote: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/why-mail-in-ballots-were-counted-late-in-states-like-pennsylvania-and-michigan/index.html

Voting by mail greatly facilitates the use of the vote-altering software and the use of ballot dumps. One reason for the mask mandate and Covid fear was to justify mass voting by mail.

The media speaks with one voice. The print, TV, NPR, social media, and the anti-Trump Internet sites exercise censorship and control the explanations.

We are experiencing a well designed and successful coup against American democracy and accountable government.

No, this is not a conspiracy theory. It is a revolution against red state America.

Republicans are too establishment to effectively fight back. They fear that exposing and resisting a stolen election would discredit American democracy. In effect, patriotism makes them impotent.

Republicans should think instead what it means to be governed by a President covered in criminal scandal who also seems to be suffering mental confusion and is likely for one or both of these reasons to be moved aside. If Kamala Harris becomes president, we will have in the Oval Office a female of color who hates white people and is vindictive against them.

The Democrat Party is now in the hands of indoctrinated leftists who despise the working class and champion "oppressed minorities." Immigration floodgates will be thrown open. Red states will be cut out of the federal budget. Gutsy Republicans such as Devin Nunes and Jim Jorden will be falsely investigated, and Trump will be falsely prosecuted. The rest of us will be silenced in one way or the other.

Think about how unlikely the Biden/Harris ticket is for success. Everyone knows that Biden suffers mental confusion. His campaign events were barely attended. Harris had so little support in the Democrat primaries that she was the first to drop out. Even the Democrats didn't want her; yet she ends up the Democrat VP choice. Americans watched as Democrat regimes in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, and other cities responded to rioting and looting by hampering and defunding the police.

How can such an unattractive party whose elected officials refused to enforce law and order win the presidential election?

The answer is fraud.

Whether or not you believe this report from a US Postal Service employee that he was ordered to backdate late mail-in ballots in Michigan, it serves as an example of how easy voting by mail makes vote fraud: https://www.rt.com/usa/505653-project-veritas-whistleblower-mailin-ballots/

The threat posed to democracy by the software described by General McInerney is devastating. With such software in the hands of intelligence services, every election in every country can be decided behind the scenes.

This makes it easier for elites to rule. The vote altering software turns democracy into a cover for self-interested rule. Yes, elites have always tried to purchase elections, but now they can program them.

I have often written that the digital revolution was the greatest threat humanity faces. Proof piles up every day.

Press Prostitutes Make Fools of Themselves Trying to Cover Up Vote Fraud for Democrats

It is amusing to watch the press prostitutes try to cover-up vote fraud for the Democrats. Here is an example from the bought-and-paid-for BBC whose "Reality Check Team" has undertaken to "fact check" the "rumor" of a 138,000 sudden ballot dump for Biden in Michigan during the early hours of morning when no one was watching: https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

The BBC claims this was a "data entry error" that was corrected. The "data entry error" was not corrected, if it was, until it became an issue. How does the BBC know that the sudden jump in votes for Biden wasn't fraud that when exposed was explained away by crooked officials as a "data entry error."

Note also that the exact same thing occurred in neighboring Wisconsin at about the same time. So we had two simultaneous "data entry errors" in two critical contested states that wiped out Trump's lead? How likely is that?

Note also that correcting the "data entry error" did not result in the reappearance of Trump's lead. So how was the error corrected?

It shows how utterly stupid the presstitutes are that they report that a data entry error that erased Trump's lead was "corrected" but the lead remained erased!

Why does a British news service have a "Fact Check Team" to protect an American political party? Is the campaign against red state America organized globally?

Note two other anomalous vote patterns. In the critical swing states, the Democrat votes for senators do not match the votes for Biden, and despite what seems to be a record Democrat turnout the Democrats lost house seats in the election! What explains the absence of "down the ticket" voting in Democrat House and Senate voting? Fraud in the Biden vote is an obvious answer. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-does-biden-have-so-many-more-votes-democrat-senators-swing-states

Further reading:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/trump-legal-adviser-jenna-ellis-discusses-magical-138000-michigan-biden-votes-appeared-nowhere-middle-night-video/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-michigan-county-discovered-omitting-votes-trump/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/going-minnesota-wisconsin-89-90-turnout-something-highly-unlikely/


Dumbo , says: November 5, 2020 at 6:46 pm GMT • 18.6 hours ago

Just the order in which things happened (are happening) is very weird. First one candidate clearly winning, then another And such a turnout for Biden? Sometimes of 90%? I don't know

Increasingly the modern world feels like a play at a theatre First the ongoing Covid farce, now this elections farce And in the meantime of course some more "normal" terrorist psy-ops.

Dreams inside dreams

Begemot , says: November 5, 2020 at 7:28 pm GMT • 17.9 hours ago

For months Trump and his people have been claiming that mail-in ballots will be corrupt, bogus, unreliable. This idea has gained considerable traction among Trump partisans.

For months Trumps and his people have been claiming that the polls showing Biden having a lead over Trump are wrong, that they are actually lying. This scenario asserts that Trump in fact enjoys majority support among voters.

These two notions have created an expectation of victory at the polls for Trump. Thus, if victory does not come, then it can only be because the Democrats stole the election. It couldn't be because the preceding claims are false.

One of the techniques of the color revolutions carried out by the US government abroad has been to put forth claims prior to an election that will serve to deligitimize the outcome, unless the desired candidate wins.

Do we have a scenario here that Trump is using to delegitimize a vote that does not give him victory, thereby trying to shift the decision into venues where he thinks he has a better chance of remaining in power?

Is the coup that Roberts claims is being carried out in fact coming from the Republican side?

As an aside, consider:

Trump won Michigan in 2016 by 10,704 votes over Clinton ( https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/michigan-president-clinton-trump ). Trump considers this a legitimate count.

Today the vote count in Michigan shows Biden leading Trump by 149,388 votes ( https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/michigan/ ). Trump considers this an illegitimate count.

Do we conclude therefore that the bigger the lead, the bigger the fraud? Or, is it possible not so many people voted for Trump this year?

Abolish_public_education , says: November 5, 2020 at 9:26 pm GMT • 15.9 hours ago
@Begemot become disappointed in him and stayed home this time.

But the large, record-setting turnout statistic is obviously a result of DEMs pushing ballots into the hands of lots of registereds who otherwise would not have participated.

Foul!

Someday the DEMs will legislate vote by proxy. A registered partisan will have his e-ballot automatically pre-filled according to the party's recommendations, and cast.

For each election, e.g. several per year, in some states.

If the voter chooses to show up at the polling station, the automatic casting feature, for that election, will be disabled (though the ballot presented will still come pre-filled out).

roonaldo , says: November 5, 2020 at 10:35 pm GMT • 14.8 hours ago

Recall the 2016 election, their tool Jill Stein, the cynical harassment of electors, and attempts to prevent states from certifying their vote by the constitutional deadline.

The Democrat fraud squads have come a long way since their Cook County shenanigans in 1960 gave them Illinois and thus the win. Democrat control of the big cities gives their fraud machinery a huge advantage. The Republicans got one back in 2000 when the Supreme Court thwarted the jurisdiction of the election laws of Florida. Nowadays, we're all masked-up in our new Bandana Republic.

ThreeCranes , says: November 5, 2020 at 10:55 pm GMT • 14.5 hours ago

Mail in ballots lend themselves to fraud via this: (from Fox)

"Ballot harvesting, or the practice of allowing political operatives and others to collect voters' ballots and turn them in en masse to polling stations, has drawn bipartisan concerns of fraud from election watchers.

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Several states have enacted some restrictions on the practice, while others have expressly allowed it or failed to regulate it at all. According to a 2019 analysis by Ballotpedia, 24 states and the District of Columbia permit someone chosen by the voter to return mail ballots on their own, with nine of those states adding some specific exceptions.

Twelve states outline who specifically can return ballots (i.e., family members or caregivers); and one state explicitly requires only voters can return their ballots. Eleven states establish a limit on the number of ballots that a so-called "harvester" can return.

Imposing restrictions on the practice has led to legal challenges. In Arizona, a federal appeals court upheld a ballot harvesting prohibition, despite a claim that it unfairly discriminated against minorities who might need help filling out their ballots.

Some prominent examples of ballot harvesting have already impacted national politics. In 2016, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law AB1921, which legalized ballot harvesting. Previously, only a family member or someone living in the same household was permitted to drop off mail ballots for a voter, but the new allowed anyone -- including political operatives -- to collect and return them for a voter.

HOW BALLOT HARVESTING HELPED DEMS ROUT GOP IN CALIFORNIA

The move apparently led to results. In 2018, despite holding substantial leads on Election Day, many Republican candidates in California saw their advantages shrink, and then disappear, as late-arriving Democratic votes were counted in the weeks following the election. Many observers pointed to the Democrats' use of ballot harvesting as a key to their success in the elections.

Richard Kaufman, right, a volunteer election official in Superior Wis., helps Betty Bockovich cast a vote at a curbside voting station set up outside the Government Center in Superior, Wis., Tuesday, April 7, 2020. Voters could ring a doorbell and poll workers would come outside to help them vote in the state's presidential primary election if they didn't want to go inside to cast their ballots because of the COVID-19 outbreak. (Dan Kraker/Minnesota Public Radio via AP)
Richard Kaufman, right, a volunteer election official in Superior Wis., helps Betty Bockovich cast a vote at a curbside voting station set up outside the Government Center in Superior, Wis., Tuesday, April 7, 2020. Voters could ring a doorbell and poll workers would come outside to help them vote in the state's presidential primary election if they didn't want to go inside to cast their ballots because of the COVID-19 outbreak. (Dan Kraker/Minnesota Public Radio via AP)
"Anecdotally, there was a lot of evidence that ballot harvesting was going on," Neal Kelley, the registrar for voters in Southern California's Orange County, told Fox News at the time.

In Orange County -- once seen as a Republican stronghold in the state -- every House seat went to a Democrat after an unprecedented "250,000" vote-by-mail drop-offs were counted, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

"People were carrying in stacks of 100 and 200 of them. We had had multiple people calling to ask if these people were allowed to do this," Kelley said.

Orange County Republican Chairman Fred Whitaker said the ballot harvesting "directly caused the switch from being ahead on election night to losing two weeks later."

EX-CLINTON LAWYER THREATENS TO SUE NEVADA UNLESS IT RESTRICTS BALLOT HARVESTING

Later, in 2019, a GOP operative in North Carolina was arrested related to alleged ballot harvesting there.

"The evidence that we will provide today will show that a coordinated, unlawful and substantially resourced absentee ballot scheme operated in the 2018 general election" in parts of North Carolina's 9th Congressional District, former state elections director Kim Strach remarked at the time.

The results in the race were eventually thrown out amid concerns of ballot harvesting and other fraud. Republican Dan Bishop won a September 2019 special election for the seat.

RealClearInvestigations has found ballot harvesting is common in other states, including Florida, where harvesters are known as "boleteros," and Texas, where they're called "politiqueras."

The issue was again thrown into focus in March, when an ex-Clinton lawyer threatened to sue Nevada unless it relaxed its ballot harvesting rules amid the coronavirus pandemic.

"GET RID OF BALLOT HARVESTING, IT IS RAMPANT WITH FRAUD," President Trump wrote on Twitter on Tuesday. "THE USA MUST HAVE VOTER I.D., THE ONLY WAY TO GET AN HONEST COUNT!"

the grand wazoo , says: November 5, 2020 at 11:27 pm GMT • 13.9 hours ago

There's much precedent for calling for a new election. The US agenicies have used it many times in countries to change an outcome that didn't go their way. If there's evidence of wide spread fraud then the way to go forward would be this: present the case to the SCOTUS, and plead it.

the grand wazoo , says: November 5, 2020 at 11:33 pm GMT • 13.8 hours ago

Trump did not cover his ass. He should have fired a few thousand military generals, and promoted his own, ones he can count on. Obama did it.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 6, 2020 at 4:54 am GMT • 8.5 hours ago
@Begemot ntested states, shows without any doubt that smoke and mirrors are in play behind the curtain.

Plus a bucketload of other shady stuff being reported by postal workers etc, and even being filmed and posted on the web.

Like I said, it's nothing to do with me – it's your country, so go spastic. I do have to wonder, though, are people really that dumb that they can't see what's happening – or are they choosing not to see it, or are they so bloody-minded that they are willingly complicit or otherwise just don't care?

The university study has already been done which scientifically demonstrates that the USA is an oligarchy, not a democracy. Is this the election in which the American people finally capitulate to the reality and abandom any pretence of egalitarianism?

Mike_from_Russia , says: November 6, 2020 at 5:12 am GMT • 8.2 hours ago

From Russian point of view

https://yt3.ggpht.com/msKH_Tawct2hbbXGQ_gSUD4WLc3lFdYvJWJTPpqSM3NNedzUfiiH88FR2bWdRRp5qxkrT66IpLVVmg=s800-nd

The Real World , says: November 6, 2020 at 6:07 am GMT • 7.3 hours ago

I would urge everyone to give this a read; it's an eye-opener. It's a detailed account about how some types of election fraud are executed from a guy who was paid to do it.

First paragraph: A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he's been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

There's no telling how many politicians, around the country and over decades, were never legitimately elected.

Rahan , says: November 6, 2020 at 6:52 am GMT • 6.5 hours ago

Why does a British news service have a "Fact Check Team" to protect an American political party? Is the campaign against red state America organized globally?

Why did Brit secret service operatives provide the initial impulse of the "Russia collusion" thing?

You've got serious Brit, Israeli, and Saudi interference in the modern US, deflected into "Russian, Chinese, and Iranian interference". Is this sutainable?

EatMyHeart , says: November 6, 2020 at 7:40 am GMT • 5.7 hours ago

Think Next Level. Remember MSM is a manipulative propaganda machine. The elections are rigged and the winner is predetermined. Why the show off slow counts, sudden jumps and inexplicable overtakes which may prove critical in determining who wins? Could they really not manipulate the numbers more smoothly, or do we need to seek another intent?

Are they leaving clues of fraud on purpose is my concern.. fuel the fires of civil unrest in the hopes of grabbing even more control when things go pear shaped?

Whitewolf , says: November 6, 2020 at 8:23 am GMT • 5.0 hours ago

US elections are looking distinctly 3rd world at the moment. Biden has a bigger voter turnout than Obama did despite Trump gaining Black and Hispanic support? On what planet is this even remotely credible?

The guy who's been hiding in his basement the last few months and speaking(mostly incoherently) to a dozen or so people beats a guy who holds several rallies a day to thousands of supporters. Nothing to see here folks. Just par for the course in the new Banana States of America.

Ilya G Poimandres , says: November 6, 2020 at 8:29 am GMT • 4.9 hours ago

For me, even Trafalgar Group was conservative in their projections for the shy Trump voter in states like Texas, Florida, and Ohio, where they were 3-5% off the mark for Trump support. And Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were all following that pattern before the voting 'not-pause' (it was not a stop, they counted a thousand votes here and a thousand there so the MSM could parrot the lie that the voting continued, which it really didn't – I had to miss a night's sleep out of frustration, watching the ticker grow ever slower).

After the pause, the situation flipped PA which was 12.7% for Trump at 75% of the vote counted went to 2.6% for Trump at 89% counted the next day. Now it's neck and neck. USPS endorsed Biden, and postdating envelopes is not difficult if you managed to run an operation like Russiagate. DNC also has a track record with fraud with both of Bernies runs, so it's not like they can claim vestal purity.

They created a system that was specifically grey – no need to allow votes after Nov 3rd, people had weeks, months to send the envelope. And if they were too lazy or slow, well then, too bad, act faster next time. Now instead there is a grey zone where fraud is simple to commit, and hard to disprove.

It is a simple delegitimisation of the voting process. Another case of the Dems doing exactly what they screeched Trump was doing. So now a peaceful handover has been delegitimised, voting has been delegitimised, the impeachment process has been delegitimised.. the system is cracking at the seams.

Pure Coincidence , says: November 6, 2020 at 8:41 am GMT • 4.7 hours ago

Benford's Law -- VERY IMPORTANT FRAUD DETECTION

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XXjlR2OK1kM?feature=oembed

All presidential candidates' vote tallies follow Benford's Law nationwide except Biden/Harris, indicating likely fraud.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/288027969/#288027969

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/288025899/#288025899

padre , says: November 6, 2020 at 8:42 am GMT • 4.7 hours ago
@Christophe GJ

Do you think, they didn't alter Trump votes,before they "came in", if there is a fraud?

Vojkan , says: November 6, 2020 at 8:46 am GMT • 4.6 hours ago
@Begemot

Everything is possible. But the possibility that a lead of ~10k one way turns into a lead of ~150k the other way overnight and with independent oversight forbidden is so statistically improbable that it appears in real life as very close to impossible without some artificial help. What is even more improbable is that similar things happen in different places at the same time.
I don't know by heart the probability of a comet hitting the Earth tomorrow but I'm confident that the number of zeros behind the comma is not worlds apart from that of the probability for a fair Biden's win.

Hiram of Tyre , says: November 6, 2020 at 9:35 am GMT • 3.8 hours ago
@anonymous

Looks an awful lot like 1884

Mail-in ballots were part a of a plot to deny Lincoln reelection in 1884.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/08/22/mail-in-voting-civil-war-election-conspiracy-lincoln/

dually , says: November 6, 2020 at 9:43 am GMT • 3.7 hours ago

The election hasn't been "stolen". Trump already won. Federal law stipulates that the votes must be counted by Nov. 4

https://www.youtube.com/embed/H6T6MILIDjA?feature=oembed

Tommy Thompson , says: November 6, 2020 at 9:45 am GMT • 3.6 hours ago

Evidence Mounts of a Stolen Election

Really? Does every sore loser always have to go and claim election fraud. Such claims need solid and material proof, not saying their is a certain electronic program out there. Most states have worked hard to secure their votes against manipulation, though a lot more needs to be done.

Most polls gave Biden a bigger voter margin than he achieved and they are are rarely wrong when the polls are summed and averaged.

Listening to his speech last night, it came across as an adolescent with an overtly Narcissistic and fully Self Centered character that has now been put on full display. Most Republicans ran for cover. Sorry, but maybe PCR should have done the same rather than jump with DT into his dark pit of self-delusion. Better for PCR to have not wasted his integrity ammo on such a ridiculous and fraudulent claim.

Sorry, but Trump has probably lost fairly and squarely. White Americans, whether Working or Middle Class, do not have more rights than others in the selection of any political leader or national President. Other views exist and must be accounted for and debated and integrated into the windstorm of politics.

Just get over it, and focus on keep the new President, whoever the maybe, that he act as a loyal America First and Constitution First President.

yurivku , says: November 6, 2020 at 10:02 am GMT • 3.3 hours ago

For Biden and Trump are the slightly different kind of shit – for methe best result is the most possible chaos which is seemed to exist.

Please not stop rioting and looting. Thank you.

GMC , says: November 6, 2020 at 10:03 am GMT • 3.3 hours ago

This time – the Russians didn't commit US Election fraud or tampering – well, at least they haven't been accused – yet. lol So, we are now looking at members of the Democratic party and members of the USGov. – again. And the evidence looks pretty good and pretty damned easy to see. Two or three swing states and a stupid consecutive drop of hundreds of thousands of votes for only one party at least. Will they get away with it again ? Probably.

GMC , says: November 6, 2020 at 10:10 am GMT • 3.2 hours ago
@Christophe GJ

The difference, is that they blamed Russia and Russia payed a heavy price for those lies. Will the perpetraitors that are American citizens, get away with it, or should they pay 10Xs more than – what Russia had to pay – without even a trial ? Are the American citizens going to be the continuous Huckleberries – for the USG corruption ? Or they going to finally Cowboy up and do something .

Richard B , says: November 6, 2020 at 10:14 am GMT • 3.1 hours ago
@Begemot onary atmosphere, thereby validating their revolution so that id doesn't look like the coup that it is.

But above all, governments, like that run by the hostile elite who are intersted in imposing a top-down authoritarian regime that will last indefinitely, routinely accuse the accuser, victim-blame, and project on their target exactly what it is they are doing.

And now we're back to The Dark Triad.

P.S. Begemot gave an excellent demonstration of the circular reasoning and tautalogical assumptions common among online trolls. Of course, he thought he was doing something else.

Miro23 , says: November 6, 2020 at 10:17 am GMT • 3.1 hours ago

It is amusing to watch the press prostitutes try to cover-up vote fraud for the Democrats. Here is an example from the bought-and-paid-for BBC whose "Reality Check Team" has undertaken to "fact check" the "rumor" of a 138,000 sudden ballot dump for Biden in Michigan during the early hours of morning when no one was watching: https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

The BBC claims this was a "data entry error" that was corrected. The "data entry error" was not corrected, if it was, until it became an issue. How does the BBC know that the sudden jump in votes for Biden wasn't fraud that when exposed was explained away by crooked officials as a "data entry error."

I would guess that we'll hear a lot more about all of this. Trump supporters aren't going to wait to come forward with evidence. Also, voting in a democracy is so important that every avenue for fraud needs to be shut down.

The motive for fraud is always going to be there so digitalization was a vastly stupid thing to do. That 138.000 votes can appear/disappear is grounds for suspending the whole failed operation. Paper ballots with voters visiting voting booths in person and counting by hand is relatively safe. And it's easier to do a recount than go to the Supreme Court.

Syd Walker , says: Website November 6, 2020 at 10:21 am GMT • 3.0 hours ago

"How can such an unattractive party whose elected officials refused to enforce law and order win the presidential election?

"The answer is fraud."

That's possible, but this inflammatory article completely fails to prove the case.

Equally plausible is a rather obvious explanation that Paul Craig Roberts deftly avoids mentioning: Trump is a crude, narcissistic and deeply unattractive plutocrat who may have established a cult-like following but who's disliked by a majority of Americans (along with his billionaire-friendly economic policies). Among other possible factors are the fact that Trump's environmental policies are so appalling they'd embarrass Richard Nixon and his America-alone approach to global politics is puerile and seen to be such by a majority of Americans?

But all these are speculations and opinion – like Paul Craig Robert's article,

What's deeply disturbing to me is that a commentator I've long respected for his courage over issues such as 9/11 has now seemingly lost the plot. Yes, the Democratic leadership are a bodgy lot – but so are the Republicans, FFS! Both sides of the USA's major party duopoly seem beholden to the Military Industrial Complex and Zionist Lobby. Neither are treating the environmental crisis with anything like the requisite urgency.

The electoral system in the USA – fragmented as it is into a myriad of local systems, each of differing reliability and fairness – is an international joke. The nation that purports to export democracy doesn't have a grown-up democracy at home. Tulsi Gabbard's proposed legislation on electoral reform would have largely fixed that problem, but like so much else that's sane in the USA it barely got a mention in mainstream discourse.

So here we are.. with a electoral system that hasn't been fit for purpose for decades (if ever?). and two unpleasant, untrustworthy leadership options. We need to recognise we're knee deep in mire and keep our heads high. The last thing we should think of doing is slinging mud at each other, like opposing tribes each hollering for their own preferred Big Chief.

This tribalistic, one-eyed, pro-Trump article by Paul Craig Roberts may be the worst he's ever written. I hope he recovers soon.

Sick of Orcs , says: November 6, 2020 at 11:39 am GMT • 1.7 hours ago

There are plenty of people exposing shitlib criminals but no one arresting them.

(((globohomo))) probably struck a deal with Trump, promising not to go after Trump Family Inc. in exchange for a few token tweets of resistance before he slinks off to create "Trump TV." (For betraying us and surrendering I hope they do lock him up.)

Even if not, Orange Bluster has a history of never using the lawful powers of the presidency to their full potential.

* Weak-ass "muslim ban" which wasn't

* Shitty rebuilt fence rather than wall

* No mass deportations

* Had the gall to tweet he would find a way to keep the illegals if the Supreme Joke ruled DACA illegal (which it is)

* Israel First

Recucklicans hate Trump even more than commiecrats. They are classic cowards, it's their role in the Uniparty. We have no one, and in a sense never did.

Secession is no longer an amusing meme. It cannot be worse than what globohomo has planned for you and yours.

McDonald's Grimace voice: "Duhhhh, secession is illegal!"

So is rigging an election.

God's Fool , says: November 6, 2020 at 11:41 am GMT • 1.7 hours ago

From where does the Republican establishment impotence come? Not out patriotism as you have suggested but from fear of losing their privileges emanating from Jewish controlled finance

Jake , says: November 6, 2020 at 12:10 pm GMT • 1.2 hours ago
@Christophe GJ

The Deep State rigged the 2016 Democrat primary race for Hillary. It then rigged the 2016 general election for Hillary, but not enough to win. This time the Deep State counted better.

The billionaires behind the scenes calling shots for the Anglo-Zionist Empire are an evil group, an evil class, as are their well paid loyal servants.

Fred777 , says: November 6, 2020 at 12:17 pm GMT • 1.1 hours ago
@anonymous

Whatever Trump's faults may be, he is far less dangerous than Bolshevik scum like yourself. Congratulations moron, as Jack warned, your ilk made peaceful revolution impossible.

Jake , says: November 6, 2020 at 12:20 pm GMT • 1.0 hours ago
@God's Fool was summed in the slogan of things they opposed to the death: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion: meaning, non-Elite whites they saw as Trash, Catholics, and Southerners.

What you see today as impotence is a large segment of the Republican Party power brokers who are original Republicans at heart. So they despise the Deplorables just like Hillary despises the Deplorables. Hillary's parents, like Obama's white grandparents, were that kind of original Republican. George Will was that kind of Republican.

Jews did not invent that. They simply latched onto it and then became its major financial backer by the ned of the Reagan years.

eggplant , says: November 6, 2020 at 12:32 pm GMT • 51 minutes ago

A senile old party hack who couldn't muster 100 people at a rally, along with a hideously insincere veep who even the democrats despised in the primaries suddenly gets 70 million votes?
I actually feel sorry for people who believe this fiction – as well as despising them.
It's invariably the same morons who spent the last 4 years believing every ludicrous piece of drip-drip information about "the Russians".

Greg Bacon , says: Website November 6, 2020 at 12:35 pm GMT • 48 minutes ago
@anonymous lots in trash, Pennsylvania county officials say

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/temporary-contractor-threw-trump-mail-ballots-trash-pennsylvania/story?id=73251533

Arizona Voters File Suit to Restore Their Ballots Cancelled Over Sharpies

https://trends.gab.com/item/5fa3ed5cd4322adc31c977f4

If that's not enough, there's this tidbit!

Joe Biden Says Democrats Created 'The Most Extensive And Inclusive Voter Fraud Organization' In American History

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BRZEs9BRGK4?feature=oembed

[Nov 07, 2020] The color revolution is being televised

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Dragonlord , 23 minutes ago

After first night, the next day, Wisconsin flips over to Biden

After second night, the next day, Michigan flips over to Biden

After third night, the next day, Georgia flips over to Biden

After fourth night, the next day, Pennslyvania flips over to Biden?

Anyone see a pattern here?

youarelost , 22 minutes ago

The color revolution is being televised. The orange revolution is underway. Just like Obama and the Cia pulled off in the Ukraine. We all know. We all see it. Many have stood against it. Only the fools of the free crap army think their communist overlords will deliver

Perseus-Reflected , 14 minutes ago

Do you think Trump expected this to happen?

Is Trump a fighter?

Do you think Trump would have planned a counter response for this to happen?

This site is pure propaganda. Whether Chi-com or Zio, I'm not sure.

But ask yourself, do you really think this is over?

Why are so many on here & in the MSM in a rush to convince you Trump is defeated?

STOCK UP & GRAB YOUR ******* POPCORN, THIS THING IS FAR FROM OVER.

Mr. Apotheosis , 2 minutes ago

I concur with your assessment. The evidence of fraud is now so overwhelming, no amount of chicanery can overcome it. This election is null and void. If Biden were to legitimately win, I would have no problem with it as people should get what they ask for. But to have the entire deep state establishment fake the results is absolutely unacceptable.

Dragonlord , 25 minutes ago

I called it last week that Trump will hit more than 70 millions votes, looks like he is on his way to do just that.

As of now, Trump has beaten all historical presidents in terms of number of votes earned. Even if Obama from 2008 comes and contest against Trump, the former would lose the election in terms of sheer numbers of the popular votes.

And even that is not enough to beat the most corrupted candidate in history, Biden....

ThaBigPerm , 21 minutes ago

No postmark, no signature and can arrive after election day. They can literally whip up as many as they want.

not-me---it-was-the-dog , 22 minutes ago

why?

trump told his supporters to vote in person, biden told his to mail their ballots.

trump gets a higher percentage of in person votes, but then the mailed in ballots are counted.

it wouldn't look like this if the republicans had allowed the penn voting officials to begin pre-canvassing the mail in ballots before the polls closed. nope, they demanded that begin only after polls closed..........so we start counting millions of ballots, an overwhelming majority for biden, after the majority of trump votes have been counted.

otschelnik , 15 minutes ago

Yea, yea the "red mirage," just like Podesta and the Transition Integrity Project predicted.

TruthFreedomPeace , 33 minutes ago

Hope that more people start cancelling cable TV and boycotting companies like Twitter,Facebook,Microsoft,Apple,Google,Netflix and Amazon which all pander to the DNC and their cronies and some try to cover up their crimes.

ACTION PLAN FOR IMMEDIATE CHANGE to counter the corruption , censorship and surveillance by media/tech/finance giants and politicians:

1)Cancel Cable TV (All channels should be made available individually so consumers don't have to give money to channels they don't want to)

2)Do Not donate money to politicians & consider boycotting companies that give them money or pay them for speeches.
Some might decide to boycott Facebook,Twitter,Apple,Amazon,Microsoft, Google and Netflix for censorship or corruption issues alone.

3)Bank with small local banks & invest with small brokerages & insist your employer/pension fund do the same.

4)Support a pardon for Julian Assange & Edward Snowden and other whistleblowers/truthtellers

5)Join Pro freedom social network MINDS ,where freedom of speech and truth are respected and users earn crypto tokens for their contributions to the site.
Follow Zero Hedge and Project Veritas for pro truth/freedom news.

6)Use web browsers like Dissenter,Tor or Brave rather than Chrome or Safari when you surf the web.
Use search engines like Quant or DuckDuckGo rather than Google or Bing for web searches.
Use an email service like ProtonMail rather than Gmail.
Save important online videos/articles/posts to your PC hard drive or phone.
Post videos to Bitchute and LBRY rather than youtube
Shop online at Overstock and smaller independent retailers rather than Amazon/Wayfair

7)Use Linux operating systems like Linux Mint,Debian or others on your computer rather than Windows, Mac or Chrome OS (Almost any PC can be switched to Linux).
Use a Linux based smartphone like PINEPHONE or a "dumbphone" rather than Google Android or Apple iPhone.
Avoid buying a "smart" TV as it is smarter to buy a "dumb" TV with no operating system pre-installed.
Use an Atari VCS or Linux mini PC on your TV for web browsing/computing/gaming/video streaming rather than amazon fire tv/roku/google chromecast/apple tv/microsoft xbox/nvidia shield.

8) Do NOT support the "War on Drugs" which causes more crime,death,murder,gang violence,incarcerations,enriching criminals while millions of people still use illegal drugs anyway.

9) Support a new foreign policy where We The People worldwide unite behind and promote the principles of truth/freedom/goodwill/integrity/humility/Non-Aggression Principle/Golden Rule and focus on winning hearts and minds.

10) Support a worldwide effort to voluntarily help others in the hope that it will win over more people to these principles.

Please share this plan of action with others via text,email & social media if you agree.Here is the link to share this message.Thank You https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/943148464663228416?referrer=truthfreedompeace

BTW,if Trump would simply join a free speech social media site and endorse some of the other big tech rivals and announce it,he could instantly make a big dent in the dominance of facebook/twitter/google/amazon/apple/microsoft/netflix.

Notveryamused , 31 minutes ago

Huge increases in specific Democrat areas vs. 2012 & 2016 with nearly 100% of the new increase going to Biden. Check those ballots.

In the large Democrat areas surrounding Atlanta, Georgia (Fulton/DeKalb/Cobb/Gwinnett) there was in 2012 and 2016, 1.27 million and 1.3 million total votes cast respectively for republicans and democrats.

In 2020 there were 1.6 million votes & nearly 100% of that increase went to Biden 🤨 (That 300k potentially wins him Georgia.)

In Dane County, Wisconsin there were 298k total votes in 2012, 288k total votes in 2016 for republicans and dems but in 2020 there were 340k votes, nearly 100% of that increase went to Biden 🤨 (That 40k wins him Wisconsin.)

In Pima, Arizona there were 351k votes in 2012 & 343k total votes in 2016. In 2020 there were 486k votes and Biden got 100k votes more on average than Hillary/Obama 🤨 (That 100k might win him Arizona)

Revolution_starts_now , 31 minutes ago

We know what they want, they want more for themselves and less for you, and they will get it.

George Carlin.

Max21c , 17 seconds ago

Could be contractors for the alphabet agencies as the coup d'etat is clearly well underway.

This is the second successful coup d'etat in America. The first successful coup d'etat being by the assassination of a President per JFK assassination & murder on November 22nd 1963 in Dallas. The second successful coup d'etat being the stealing of the election and the fraudulent election of 2020. They tried several times to overthrow Trump and this time the coup plotters may have succeeded through a fraudulent election and by stealing the election.

d_7878 , 17 minutes ago

Biden 50.5% 73,488,248

Trump 47.8% 69,622,407

[Nov 07, 2020] The 1876 Presidential election was so completely corrupted by Democratic Party cheating across the South that the Electoral College was defeated. No normal ballot was possible in the Electoral College, because there were competing slates of Electors.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Mark Thomason , Nov 5 2020 23:05 utc | 174

The 1876 Presidential election was so completely corrupted by Democratic Party cheating across the South that the Electoral College was defeated. No normal ballot was possible in the Electoral College, because there were competing slates of Electors.

Instead of picking the President by a vote of the House, as provided in the Constitution for such instances, Congress created a Commission. The Commission picked the President, by a vote of 8-7.

That is the only time a Commission has been done.

It is also the only time an election had been so comprehensively corrupted across so many states.

The (Northern) Republicans got their candidate elected, which was likely the honest outcome before all the cheating, as near as we can really know.

However, to get that they had to give up Reconstruction, and permit the start of Jim Crow across the South.

It was a high price to pay. It was paid. Who suffered? Black people were thrown to the wolves.

[Nov 07, 2020] I forgot to mention that counting the remaining votes in PA works like a clockwork

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Piotr Berman , Nov 5 2020 21:42 utc | 160

I forgot to mention that counting the remaining votes in PA works like a clockwork. With each 1% counted (ca. 70k), Trumps lead decreases by 0.5%, not 8% votes left, the remaining lead is under 2%. Will the strategic bombers that were recently deployed to Russian borders be sent onto Philadelphia?

[Nov 07, 2020] There will be no media coverage of any investigations of irregularities.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Nov 6 2020 16:49 utc | 82

Kiza @72

It doesn't have to make sense. Dorsey and Zuckerberg will keep discussion of how suspicious it all is out of social media and the stenographers in the mass media are so desperate to get back to writing about Kardashian ass that they will never draw public attention to "irregularities" in the election. When you tell a lie then you usually have to follow it with more lies to back up the previous one, and then yet more lies to support each previous wave of lies. The stenographers in mass media have had four years of that and cannot take it anymore. That is just too many lies for them to try and keep straight in their heads and they want to start off on some new, like Lukashenko using novichok on ducks and kids or something like that. They just want these last four years of their own self-inflicted nightmare to go away as soon as possible.

There will be no media coverage of any investigations of irregularities. The only attention the media will give the matter is to dismiss the whole thing as conspiracy theory.

[Nov 07, 2020] Surging votes for Biden in the swing states yet no such surge in votes for the Democrats' senate candidate accompanying Biden on the ticket

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Scotch Bingeington , Nov 5 2020 21:08 utc | 152

Some guy on Twitter claims to have found something weird - surging votes for Biden in the swing states yet no such surge in votes for the Democrats' senate candidate accompanying Biden on the ticket. "Down ticket votes" is what he calls it, normally a supposed link in preferences.

He gives Michigan as an example.

Trump: 2,637,173 votes
GOP Senator: 2,630,042 votes
difference: 7,131 votes

That's supposed to be a regular pattern, only a slight difference between the two. The picture with Biden is different...

Biden: 2,787,544 votes
Dem Senator: 2,718,451 votes
difference: 69,093 votes

A much larger difference. What do you make of this?

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump saw the perennial election stealing tactics of the DNC in primaries, in Florida (remember Brenda Snipes/Broward Co. 2018?) Detroit 2018, Philly (forever), as well other dem-controlled states (WI, Mn etc) in play in 2020.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

gm , Nov 6 2020 23:32 utc | 165

First of all, Biden has not "won", and won't, unless/until Trump concedes-- or gets JFK'd [or rather more likely, these days; 'brain-cancered' (ie poisoned/incapacitated by some 'plausibly deniable' means)].

The collective efforts of an array of interests (the well-entrenched, many-tentacled US deep state [writ large] power base, with its nearly total media saturation/message control thru the 'Beyond Mockingbird' silicone valley social media/traditional media monopolies, corrupt/compromised elected dems and repugs and their respective party infrastructures, and probably some extra-national players vested in the outcome), are being applied right now to attempt to drag across the finish line the 'Dead Man Walking' candidate Biden, pumped up with nootropics , and propped up by ever-present handlers during the campaign. Many agree Biden functions merely as a placeholding marionette, soon to be replaced, should their election theft coup succeed.

Furthermore, ' he [Biden] was *not* a lot less hated than Trump'. I believe most honest observers would acknowledge, at least privately, that the vast 'MiniTruth' electronic social/traditional media propaganda/censorship complex has been weaponized since 2016 to engage in a transparently biased and unrelenting effort to smear and demonize Trump, while it is simultaneously engaging during the recent period of the 2020 election in nearly total suppression, distortion and even outright banning of open honest reporting of news, negative facts or public free speech unfavorable to Biden or negative to his campaign.

I believe I replied to one of Bemildred's previous post-Nov 3 comments, by pointing out that the deep state/DNC/never-Trumper coalition has been trying continuously, "six ways from Sunday", to destroy Trump since the lead-up to 2016 election, but he's been beating them down, and learning from the experience, on how to plan a defense for their likely actions in the 2020 race.

Trump saw the perennial election stealing tactics of the DNC in primaries, in Florida (remember Brenda Snipes/Broward Co. 2018?) Detroit 2018, Philly (forever), as well other dem-controlled states (WI, Mn etc) in play in 2020.

And he recognized the corrupt behavior pattern of Brian Kemp(R) Gov, and tangled with Kemp over Kemp's appointment of who appointed Kelly 'no-political-resume' Loeffler ( shiksa trophy wife of NY Stock Exchange chief Jeffrey Sprecher) to Isakson's vacated senate seat, ignoring over Trumps recommendation of the experienced and effective Rep Doug Collins (R-Ga) to fill it).
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-set-tap-kelly-loeffler/story?id=67444665

Kemp was also the previous shady SoS (head of elections) for Georgia. In short and Trump had his number as a self-serving RINO going into the 2020 prez voting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Kemp#Georgia_Secretary_of_State

I have little doubt Trump anticipated the massive dirty vote counting and fraud that are coming to pass now in these States and has taken measures in advance to nail them cold with hard evidence on election fraud.

I noticed how smooth, confident and direct he was during his ~17 min WH press room address yesterday (Nov 5). https://www.c-span.org/video/?477858-1/president-trump-challenges-latest-election-results-claims-voter-fraud

I do not think it is only because he is a good poker bluffer. I suspect feels he is holding a strong hand to play and likes his odds of winning this fight.

[Nov 07, 2020] For several decades now the US political system has been becoming more corrupt, undemocratic, unrepresentative and oligarchical. Election fraud come natiuoally.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kadath , Nov 5 2020 19:03 utc | 132

More and more evidence of voting fraud is piling up (barring outside observer from voting counting, 89% voter turn out, refusal of states to update their vote totals, discarded trump votes found in dumpsters, vote counts being stopped for hours at a time). Textbook example of votes being manipulated, they are counting some, stopping, estimating how many Biden votes need to manufactured to reach the desired total, stuffing the ballot boxs, then restarting. Will almost certainly go to the US Supreme Court (unless the supreme court declines to hear the cases, which I think is unlikely). Regardless of how this turns out I think some things can be agreed upon

1. Trump supporters are furious, far more angry then Gore supporters in 2000, they are mobilizing to defend Trump's political future and his legacy. If Trump loses, I suspect their first target will be the Republican establishment who they regard as having been half-hearted in defending Trump. They will probably succeed in making Trump-style populism the new ideology of the Republican Party (comparable to Goldwater's influence on the Republican Party of the 60s-80s)

2. Biden is a lame duck already, his political capital has been wholly spent and with a Republican senate and a Republican base baying for blood he won't be able pass anything of note that doesn't have bipartisan support (he'll probably stir up some new wars in the Middle East, Africa and Eastern Europe - always bipartisan support for MOAR war). We will probably stand down within 18 months (he'll try to last at least a full year). As a political figure he is tarnished beyond repair and his calls for "coming together" will mean nothing to the Trump supporters who are convinced he stole the election.

3. The Democrats are no longer the party of minorities as they originally assumed themselves to be. Though the majority of blacks and hispanics continue to support the Democratic party, Trump grew his support in both groups (around 20%, almost double what it was last election). "IF" the Republicans continue with a populist message they will be able to continue this growth, this is significant because the Democratic rainbow coalition strategy is based around getting 80%+ of the minority vote, this will force the Democrats to look at strategies at getting elected

4. For several decades now the US political system has been becoming more corrupt, undemocratic, unrepresentative and oligarchical. Regardless of outcome, this looks like a crossing of the Rubicon moment, where a huge segment of the population refuses to accept the legitimacy of an election. This doesn't mean a civil war is on the table now, but many people (on both sides) will adopted a turn-a-bout is fair play attitude - expect future elections to be even more disputed, courts to be more politicized and prosecutions to be more arbitrary.

[Nov 07, 2020] The same pause with counting votes happened in Broward County, Florida, in 2018, when a dodgy Democratic election official appeared to be intervening, illicitly, on her party's behalf. T

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

gm , Nov 7 2020 2:22 utc | 203

I think this piece fits well with the topic:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/game-coup

National polls consistently predicted a huge Biden blowout. That they were wrong (again) is demonstrated by the facts that (a) the 2020 popular vote is, so far (California is not fully counted), a mere two-point spread, hardly a blowout; (b) Trump got a higher share of the vote than last time; and (C) Trump received far more total votes than last time.

But it's the swing states that matter. Here (again) Trump was supposed to lose - if not necessarily bigly in every case, at least widely.

But throughout election day, the president consistently outperformed the polls. He crushed his 2016 performance in Florida. He also outperformed in Iowa, Ohio, South Carolina, and Texas. Senators he was supposed to drag down with him, including Joni Ernst, Lindsey Graham, and Mitch McConnell, won handily. Even Susan Collins, who was supposed to be sure goner and lose by at least three, won by nine. A party that was "certain" to lose the Senate has kept it and gained (so far) six seats in the House.

Looking at states no one expected Trump to lose, his overperformance is even more stark. The polling average for West Virginia was Trump +17; he won it by 39. Kansas was estimated at +9; the result was +15.

Throughout the day the president was also outperforming his expected result in key states such as Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. He even, for a time, looked like he was within striking distance in Virginia, a state Hillary Clinton won by five points in 2016. At one point the New York Times's "meter" had Trump's chances in North Carolina at 92%. The needle was also sliding in the president's direction in Arizona and Georgia, among others.

And then, suddenly, the counting stopped in at least five states (or parts of states): Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin; all but one with a Democratic governor (coincidence, surely!). When has that ever happened? Well, it happened in Broward County, Florida, in 2018, when a dodgy Democratic election official appeared to be intervening, illicitly, on her party's behalf. The process only got back underway when the state's (Republican) governor intervened and had her removed from the process.

[Nov 07, 2020] The Buffalo mailman, who was caught with over 800 pieces of mail inside his trunk that he had failed to deliver

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 6 2020 15:21 utc | 43

An upstate USPS employee was arrested Tuesday while crossing the US-Canada border with hundreds of envelopes and other undelivered mail -- including several absentee ballots.

The Buffalo mailman, who was caught with over 800 pieces of mail inside his trunk that he had failed to deliver, said he had ended up on a bridge between the US and its neighbor to the north by accident, the Buffalo News reported.

Customs and Border Protection found a huge bin of mail spanning several zip codes in the vehicle. Among them were three absentee ballots from the Erie County Board of Elections, authorities told the newspaper.

Brandon Wilson, 27, told CBP agents he was in the wrong lane while traveling on Interstate 190 and accidentally wound up on the bridge. When pressed, Willson claimed that the mail was for his mother, though he was unable to explain why the names on the packages did not match.


https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/usps-worker-arrested-at-canadian-border-with-undelivered-ballots/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Nov 07, 2020] Escobar- Banana Follies - The Mother Of All Color Revolutions -

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Escobar: Banana Follies - The Mother Of All Color Revolutions


by Tyler Durden Fri, 11/06/2020 - 23:40 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Pepe Escobar via The Asia Times,

A gaming exercise of the perfect, indigenous color revolution, code-named Blue, was leaked from a major think tank established in the imperial lands that first designed the color revolution concept.

Not all the information disclosed here about the gaming of Blue has been declassified. That may well elicit a harsh response from the Deep State, even as a similar scenario was gamed by an outfit called Transition Integrity Project.

Both scenarios should qualify as predictive programming – with the Deep State preparing the general public, in advance, for exactly how things will play out.

The standard color revolution playbook rules usually start in the capital city of nation-state X, during an election cycle, with freedom fighting "rebels" enjoying full national and international media support.

Blue concerns a presidential election in the Hegemon. In the gaming exercise, the incumbent president, codenamed Buffoon, was painted Red. The challenger, codenamed Corpse, was painted Blue.

Blue – the exercise – went up a notch because, compared to its predecessors, the starting point was not a mere insurgency, but a pandemic. Not any pandemic, but a really serious, bad to the bone global pandemic with an explosive infection fatality rate of less than 1%.

By a fortunate coincidence, the lethal pandemic allowed Blue operators to promote mail-in ballots as the safest, socially distant voting procedure.

That connected with a rash of polls predicting an all but inevitable Blue win in the election – even a Blue Wave.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

The premise is simple: take down the economy and deflate a sitting president whose stated mission is to drive a booming economy. In tandem, convince public opinion that actually getting to the polls is a health hazard.

The Blue production committee takes no chances, publicly announcing they would contest any result that contradicts the prepackaged outcome: Blue's final victory in a quirky, anachronistic, anti-direct democracy body called the "electoral college".

If Red somehow wins, Blue would wait until every vote is counted and duly litigated to every jurisdiction level. Relying on massive media support and social media marketing propelled to saturation levels, Blue proclaims that "under no scenario" Red would be allowed to declare victory.

Countdown to magic voting

Election Day comes. Vote counting is running smoothly – mail-in count, election day count, up to the minute tallies – but mostly favoring Red, especially in three states always essential for capturing the presidency. Red is also leading in what is characterized as "swing states".

But then, just as a TV network prematurely calls a supposedly assured Red state for Blue, all vote counting stops before midnight in major urban areas in key swing states under Blue governors, with Red in the lead.

Blue operators stop counting to check whether their scenario towards a Blue victory can roll out without bringing in mail-in ballots. Their preferred mechanism is to manufacture the "will of the people" by keeping up an illusion of fairness.

Yet they can always rely, as Plan B, on urban mail-in ballots on tap, hot and cold, until Blue squeaks by in two particularly key swing states that Red had bagged in a previous election.

That's what happens. Starting at 2 am, and later into the night, enter a batch of "magic" votes in these two key states. The sudden, vertical upward "adjustment" includes the case of a batch of 130k+ pro-Blue votes cast in a county alongside not a single pro-Red vote – a statistical miracle of Holy Ghost proportions.

Stuffing the ballot box is a typical scam applied in Banana Republic declinations of color revolution. Blue operators use the tried and tested method applied to the gold futures market, when a sudden drop of naked shorts drives down gold price, thus protecting the US dollar.

Blue operators bet the compliant mainstream media/Big Tech alliance will not question that, well, out of the blue, the vote would swing towards Blue in a 2 to 3 or 3 to 4 margin.

The day after Election Day there are vague explanations that one of the possible vote-dumps was just a "clerical error", while in another disputed state there is no justification for accepting ballots with no postmark.

Blue operators relax because the mainstream media/Big Tech alliance squashes each and every complaint as "conspiracy theories".

The Red counter-revolution

The two presidential candidates do not exactly help their own cases.

Codename Corpse, in a Freudian slip, had revealed his party had set up the most extensive and "diverse" fraud scheme ever.

Not only Corpse is about to be investigated for a shady computer-related scheme. He is a stage 2 dementia patient with a rapidly unraveling profile – kept barely functional by drugs, which can't prevent his mind slowly shutting down.

Codename Buffoon, true to his instincts, goes pre-emptive, declaring the whole election a fraud but without offering a smoking gun. He is duly debunked by the mainstream media/Big Tech alliance for spreading "false claims".

All this is happening as a wily, old, bitter operator not only had declared that the only admissible scenario was a Blue victory; she had already positioned herself for a top security job.

Blue also games that Red would immediately embark on a single-minded path ahead: regiment an army of lawyers demanding access to every registration roll to scrub, review and verify each and every mail-in ballot, a process of de facto forensic analysis.

Yet Blue cannot foresee how many fake ballots will be unveiled during recounts.

As Corpse is set to declare victory, Buffoon eyes the long game, set to take the whole thing all the way to the Supreme Court.

The Red machine had already gamed it – as it was fully aware of how operation Blue would be played.

The Red counter-revolution does carry the potential of strategically checkmating Blue.

It is a three-pronged attack – with Red using the Judiciary Committee, the Senate and the Attorney General, all under the authority of codename Buffoon until Inauguration Day. The end game after a vicious legal battle is to overthrow Blue.

Red's top operators have the option of setting up a Senate commission, or a Special Counsel, at the request of the Judiciary Committee, to be appointed by the Department of Justice to investigate Corpse.

In the meantime, two electoral college votes, one-month apart, are required to certify the presidential winner.

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These votes will happen in the middle of one and perhaps two investigations focused on Corpse. Any state represented at the electoral college may object to approve an investigated Corpse; in this case it's illegal for that state to allow its electors to certify the state's presidential results.

Corpse may even be impeached by his own party, under the 25th Ammendment, due to his irreversible mental decline.

The resulting chaos would have to be resolved by the Red-leaning Supreme Court. Not exactly the outcome favored by Blue.

The House always wins

The heart of the matter is that this think tank gaming transcends both Red and Blue. It's all about the Deep State's end game.

There's nothing like a massive psy ops embedded in a WWE-themed theater under the sign of Divide and Rule to pit mob vs. mob, with half of the mob rebelling against what it perceives as an illegitimate government. The 0.00001% comfortably surveys the not only metaphorical carnage from above.

Even as the Deep State, using its Blue minions, would never have allowed codename Buffoon to prevail, again, domestic Divide and Rule might be seen as the least disastrous outcome for the world at large.

A civil war context in theory distracts the Deep State from bombing more Global South latitudes into the dystopian "democracy" charade it is now enacting.

And yet a domestic Empire of Chaos gridlock may well encourage more foreign adventures as a necessary diversion to tie the room together.

And that's the beauty of the Blue gaming exercise: the House wins, one way or another.
play_arrow palmereldritch , 2 minutes ago

So many snakes with heads.

yojimbo , 25 minutes ago

Well, a leftie spots the cheat.

I love the dissonanse for most of them though - 2016, every Trump vote was a Putin fake, this time no Biden vote is a lie, and how dare you even question the democratic system!

Sammy Adams , 27 minutes ago

Three Branches of the Deep State: 1. Corporate/Social Media, 2. CIA/MI6, 3. Federal Reserve/Bank of England

Know Your Enemy: sonsoflibertyso.com

BGen. Jack Ripper , 23 minutes ago

America has become the world's largest mafioso

joego1 , 13 minutes ago

I think Trump has the goods on these goofs, I'm mean it is circumstantially obvious of organized fraud coming directly from the top of the DNC on this caper. They even announced the game plan before they started. What a bunch of morons, these people are really stupid.

joego1 , 15 minutes ago

It might have helped if the corpse didn't come out and brag about putting together the best voting fraud operation in history.

Ms No , 28 minutes ago

A lot of that is true but predictive programming isnt real. There is zero motive or incentive to do such. Its a bad theory with no real evidence. They are just incompetent or too brazen and full of hubris to hide. The other stuff is creative writing clairvoyance. That actually has over 100 years of data. Predictive programming just sounds good.

Boiling frog tactic isnt predictive programming either. People are just trying to figure out why the future shows up in arts and insider discourse prior to it becoming a reality, even in minute specific detail. This really is no mystery though. Both reasons I gave are actually following Occam's razor.

[Nov 07, 2020] Election glitch in Michigan county accidentally hands Democrat a win, flipping it to Republican once fixed -- RT USA News

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Michigan's Oakland County has discovered a computer glitch that erroneously gave a victory to a Democratic candidate for commissioner. Her rival is breathing a sigh of relief, and worrying about where else such errors lurk.

Democratic candidate for county commissioner Melanie Hartman appeared to have won the election on Wednesday by a razor-thin 104-vote margin, according to Detroit Free Press . However, red-faced county officials have revealed that a computer glitch led them to actually count votes for seven precincts twice, and the Republican incumbent Adam Kochenderfer was declared the winner on Friday.

[Nov 07, 2020] Every state that has had a delay has seen Biden has overtaken trump AFTER the delays were announced

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Kadath , Nov 7 2020 1:18 utc | 186

the evidence is growing and you can watch the recent Ron Paul Liberty report where Daniel McAdam (an actual elections observer)listed off a huge list of red flags. In case your too busy to watch I will provide a brief list
1. Every state that has had a delay has seen Biden has overtaken trump AFTER the delays were announced - Red flag
2. Florida counted 10.5M votes in less than 24 hours, Georgia couldn't count 4.8M in 48 hours, why? - Red Flag
3. In PA, the courts have barred all accredited observers from observing the vote - Red Flag
4. In Detroit, the ballot counting centers barred windows and expelled observers, why? - Red Flag
5. David Lim (Obama's former speech writer) sent a tweet out on Nov 4 (AFTER the election) asking for volunteers in Georgia to help people fix their mail in ballots so that they count, why? - Red Flag
6. Participation in one PA county reached 90% turn out, beating the prior record that had stood for more than 100 years and almost 30% higher than the last election in 2016. Other PA counties saw voter numbers exceed 100% of registered voters compared to the last election, even accounting for same day registration this is statistically improbable- Red Flag

If you put in the effort to investigate this issue with an open mind you will find more evidence of suspicious activity during this election.

On a unrelated note, I have been a commenter on this website for several years and I have never insulted a fellow commenter as you have done. this website supports the free exchange of views, information and dialogue, not crass and churlish name-calling. Vulgar and unprofessional conduct does a disservice to this website, your fellow commenters and yourself.

[Nov 07, 2020] This is not in any way an ordinary usual election so widespead and coordinated election fraud is a possibility

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jinn , Nov 6 2020 22:05 utc | 148

Despite the unfounded protestations I've seen here over the past few days, the type of operation with designs to selectively throw away, not deliver, or otherwise void Trump ballots/votes would require a mind boggling degree of coordination and communication and at some point someone would get caught and investigated
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I think that is usually correct
but...

This is not in any way an ordinary usual election. There are a lot of deranged people out there that are extremely agitated so it would not be surprising if somebody took it upon themselves to save the world from what ever they think they are saving the world from and they did something to alter the election. And if that did happen they will be caught because this will also be the most scrutinized election.

I'm still thinking trump will win in the end. We have seen this movie so many times before where the left wing media is telling everybody over and over and over that trump is toast and is going to be run out of town and it always turns into a nothing burger. Why would it be different this time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppGj5FOFckM

[Nov 07, 2020] I would love for someone to explain why the Democratic voters vote so much more by mail than the Republican voters, like at least 2:1? This is a serious question.

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Kiza , Nov 6 2020 16:25 utc | 72

I used to work with demographic data professionally. Yet, I would love for someone to explain why the Democratic voters vote so much more by mail than the Republican voters, like at least 2:1? This is a serious question. There are all kinds of differences between which can cause one group to be higher. But it requires an extremely high correlation with some unknown factor to cause such dominance of one group of registered voters in one type of voting. Without arriving at a good explanation, obviously fraud is the next best one.

This is on top of the issue of so many Republican senators apparently receiving winning votes where Biden "won" through newly discovered bags of mail in votes.

[Nov 07, 2020] The election is in the courts. The judges were all elected. Or appointed by elected politicians. Should be pretty plain how hermetically sealed that system is.

Highly recommended!
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oldhippie , Nov 6 2020 13:38 utc | 23


The election is in the courts. The judges were all elected. Or appointed by elected politicians. Should be pretty plain how hermetically sealed that system is.

Judges are politicians first, jurists second. They are going to decide for Biden. Biden is better connected. Biden is sure to reward them while Trump is mercurial. There will be no determination of facts, probably impossible to do that in any case, more importantly no one wants to know.

Mark2 said something I can agree with! His photo file of Trump with Epstein is damning. Bigger photo file of Clintons with Epstein. Even bigger photo file of Clintons with Trump. And then we have the photo file of Biden pawing young girls. And of course the photo files of his son with children. They all stink. But half of us cheer on one and half of us cheer on the other. They stink.


bevin , Nov 6 2020 14:13 utc | 28

b is entirely correct in suggesting that the Democrats steal elections. Their entire history is of doing so. They have been doing it since the 1790s. They are the party of machines- Tammany, Pendergast, Cook County. The party of the Solid South in which the entire section, larger than the Confederacy, vored Democrat for the better part of a century when the only elections were the White Primaries.

But there is no need to go back so far: Biden stole this year's primaries, just as Clinton stole those in 2016. Stealing elections is what Democrats do. It is also what Republicans, particularly since the South switched from Democrat to Republican, do. It is the American way-fixing elections to make sure that the popular will is never imposed on the rich and powerful.

Those who think that Biden represents anything more enlightened than the appalling Trump have not been paying attention, something which is hard to do when your head is buried in the sand and full of fantasies in which great men (or women) rescue the Republic.

The problem in the United States and most of the 'western' world, is that people just enjoy being told what to do, what to think, who to applaud. It has reached the stage at which the most basic sexual attraction is held to be perverse and large numbers of people adjust themselves to conformity with the tawdriest gender stereotypes by demanding to be castrated. You really couldn't make this up!

William Gruff , Nov 6 2020 14:16 utc | 29

Down South @26

Votes will continue to be "found" until they have enough.

The establishment needs to get "back to normal" . They don't have the strength for four more years of hysteria, so the election will be flipped regardless of the difficulty.

EoinW , Nov 6 2020 14:54 utc | 35

We are an "end justifies the means" society. I understand that some people here hate Trump so much that seeing him beaten - at any cost - is all that matters. People are entitled to their opinion. The election is clearly being stolen from Trump. One can recognize that reality regardless of which side they are on. Don't you think the Dems and media can handle all the fraud on their own? Why must you insult everyone's intelligence by taking part in the lies? Have you no self respect?

[Nov 07, 2020] Here are two examples of the alleged manipulations. Whom they fall in favour of is fairly obvious.

Nov 07, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

MARK CHAPMAN November 6, 2020 at 11:40 am

I believe this is the probable outcome as well, that Trump will win a further term by a narrow margin. But it is the narrowness of that margin that is the story – a closely-contested vote is the easiest to rig, since it requires a comparatively-small amount of fakery, but it risks an explosion of public fury when the losing half sees their candidate 'cheated' right at the post. Here are two examples of the alleged manipulations. Whom they fall in favour of is fairly obvious.

https://www.anti-empire.com/seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters/

https://www.anti-empire.com/stealing-pennsylvania/

[Nov 07, 2020] If a city send out 100,000 vote by mail ballots, there is great chance more than a quarter are returned due to bad address and federal law does not allow the forwarding of ballots.

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Jose , 06 November 2020 at 01:54 PM

If a city send out 100,000 vote by mail ballots, there is great chance more than a quarter are returned due to bad address and federal law does not allow the forwarding of ballots.

The easiest way to cheat, is to use the return-to-sender ballots.

This story is probably not true.

james , 06 November 2020 at 02:04 PM

what i find interesting is how quick many are to claim fraud in this election... i am not saying fraud doesn't happen, but i don't know that it is a one way street and only happens in a one sided way..

it is almost like all the allegations of fraud in foreign countries elections is coming home to roost in the usa.. this is ironic as the usa has always been held up as a type of gold standard for fair elections... that many americans are now projecting onto their own country what has normally been projected only onto other countries ( 3rd world type countries?) only, is quite interesting at this juncture...

[Nov 07, 2020] The same civil servants counted the votes 4 years ago across all of these states...is anyone SERIOUSLY believing (can't say thinking) that all these folks conspired this year and not 4 years ago?

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Laura Wilson , 06 November 2020 at 01:32 PM

In 2016, Trump won:
AZ by 91,234 votes
GA by 211,141 votes
PA by 44,292 votes
WI by 22,748 votes
MI by 10,704 votes

The same civil servants counted the votes 4 years ago across all of these states...is anyone SERIOUSLY believing (can't say thinking) that all these folks conspired this year and not 4 years ago?

It's an election....sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

[Nov 07, 2020] 200,000 New York City voters" -- many in pro-Sanders precincts -- "had been illegally wiped off the rolls and prevented from voting in the presidential primary by Glenn Greenwald Question Everything! Question Everything!

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Purpose and Intent of this website:

The U.S. Inability To Count Votes is a National Disgrace. And Dangerous.

Nations far poorer and less technologically advanced have no problem holding quick, efficient elections. Distrust in U.S. outcomes is dangerous but rational.

By Glenn Greenwald

November 04, 2020 " Information Clearing House " - The richest and most powerful country on earth -- whether due to ineptitude, choice or some combination of both -- has no ability to perform the simple task of counting votes in a minimally efficient or confidence-inspiring manner. As a result, the credibility of the voting process is severely impaired, and any residual authority the U.S. claims to "spread" democracy to lucky recipients of its benevolence around the world is close to obliterated.

At 7:30 a.m. ET on Wednesday, the day after the 2020 presidential elections, the results of the presidential race, as well as control of the Senate, are very much in doubt and in chaos. Watched by rest of the world -- deeply affected by who rules the still-imperialist superpower -- the U.S. struggles and stumbles and staggers to engage in a simple task mastered by countless other less powerful and poorer countries: counting votes. Some states are not expected to finished their vote-counting until the end of this week or beyond .

The same data and polling geniuses who pronounced that Hillary Clinton had a 90% probability or more of winning the 2016 election, and who spent the last three months proclaiming the 2020 election even more of a sure thing for the Democratic presidential candidate, are currently insisting that Biden, despite being behind in numerous key states, is still the favorite by virtue of uncounted ballots in Democrat-heavy counties in the outcome-determinative states. [One went to sleep last night with the now-notorious New York Times needle of data guru Nate Cohn assuring the country that, with more than 80% of the vote counted in Georgia, Trump had more than an 80% chance to win that state, only to wake up a few hours later with the needle now predicting the opposite outcome; that all happened just a few hours after Cohn assured everyone how much "smarter" his little needle was this time around].

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NYT's predictive needle for Georgia at 8:40 pm ET, Tuesday night.

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NYT's predictive needle for Georgia less than four hours later, at 12:12 a.m., early Wednesday morning.

Given the record of failures and humiliations they have quickly compiled, what rational person would trust anything they say at this point? A citizen randomly chosen from the telephone book would be as reliable if not more so for sharing predictions. And the monumental failures of the polling industry and the data nerds who leech off it, for the second consecutive national election, only serve to sow even further doubt and confusion around the electoral process.

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A completely untrustworthy voting count is now the norm. Two months after the New York state primary in late June, two Congressional races were in doubt by what The New York Times c alled "major delays in counting a deluge of 400,000 mail-in ballots and other problems." In particular:

Thousands more ballots in the city were discarded by election officials for minor errors, or not even sent to voters until the day before the primary, making it all but impossible for the ballots to be returned in time.

It took a full six weeks for New York to finally declare a winner in those two primary races for Congress.

The coronavirus pandemic and the shutdowns and new votings rules it ushered in have obviously complicated the process, but the U.S. failure to simply count votes with any degree of efficiency, in a way that inspires even minimal confidence in the process, pre-dates the March, 2020 nationwide lockdowns. Even if one dismisses as aberrational the protracted, Court-decided, and still-untrusted outcome of the 2000 presidential election -- only four national election cycles ago -- the U.S. voting process is rife with major systemic failures and doubt-sowing inefficiencies that can be explained only as a deliberate choice and/or a perfect reflection of a collapsing, crumbling empire.

Recall the mass confusion that ensued back in January, in the very first Democratic Party primary election in the Iowa caucus, where a new app created and monetized by a bunch of sleazy Democratic operatives caused massive delays, confusion and an untrustworthy outcome . Later in the process, many Super Tuesday states -- including California -- were still counting votes weeks or even longer after the election was held (more than a week after the Democratic primary, California had still only counted roughly 75% of the ballots cast, depriving Bernie Sanders of a critical narrative victory on election night).

The 2018 midterm elections were also marred by pervasive irregularities. The Washington Post noted "thousands of reports of voting irregularities across the country . with voters complaining of broken machines, long lines and untrained poll workers improperly challenging Americans' right to vote."

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And the full extent of the "irregularities" and treacherous outright cheating by the Democratic National Committee in the 2016 primary race between Clinton and Sanders was never fully appreciated given how pro-Clinton the press was. As just one example, "200,000 New York City voters" -- many in pro-Sanders precincts -- "had been illegally wiped off the rolls and prevented from voting in the presidential primary" (for one of the best-documented histories of just how pervasive were the shenanigans and cheating in the 2016 Democratic primary across multiple key states, listen to this TrueAnon episode ).


[Nov 07, 2020] The key problem for Trump is that he a fake/fraudulent populist: look at Trump tax cut and that might explain why less voters supported him in 2020 . And Biden with all his warts is IMHO better choice then Trump with this bulling and "national neoliberalism" stance along with aggressive "might is right" foreign policy (just

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As Bernie Sanders pointed out in a video that went viral, initial results were always going to favour the Republicans because Republicans were more likely to vote in person, whereas Democrats were more likely to use mail-in ballots which take time to
count, so this is precisely what was anticipated, this was always going to happen, there's nothing untoward or unexpected happening here. As the count continues the 'process' begins to inexorably favour the Democrats.

First of all, the election fraud is not something exceptional. It small dozes it is present in any of US election. More in the past (Kennedy-Nixon), then currently. See
A Brief History of Mail-In Vote Fraud

I do not think that fraud alone is capable of flipping the states. The key problem for Trump is that he a fake/fraudulent populist: look at Trump tax cut and that might explain why less voters supported him in 2020 . And Biden with all his warts is IMHO better choice then Trump with this bulling and "national neoliberalism" stance along with aggressive "might is right" foreign policy (just
look at Pompeo)

But at the same time some facts require careful analysis. Among them

Kyle Becker@kylenabecker

Swing state voting irregularities:

  • Biden outperforms [Dem] Senators in swing states, underperforms in VA, NH, RI

  • Biden underperforms Hillary/Obama in cities, except in MI, PA, GA, WI

  • Biden mail-in dumps with 100% margins

GOP lose ZERO House races

[Nov 07, 2020] A Brief History of Mail-In Vote Fraud - News-Talk 1130 WISN - Dan O'Donnell

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In the 1982 Illinois gubernatorial election , more than 100,000 votes were fraudulently cast in Chicago. The Justice Department found that Democratic Party officials there had set up an extensive vote fraud ring that very nearly stole the governorship from Republican Jim Thompson, who won re-election over Adlai Stevenson III by just 5,074 votes out of 3.67 million cast.

Following an extensive federal investigation, a total of 63 people were convicted on vote fraud charges. Prosecutors found that they had bought votes, registered illegal immigrants and imaginary voters, and even had voting precinct captains physically change their vote counts. But by far their most common trick was casting fraudulent absentee ballots. The corrupt precinct captains who were in on the fraud had their workers "encourage voters to apply for absentee ballots whether or not they had a valid reason to do so and to turn the blank ballots over" to the election workers, who would then vote for them.

The investigation found that "although the [vote] canvass disclosed that a number of persons who were registered to vote in the precinct had died, moved away, or for some other reason had become ineligible to vote, these persons were not struck from the list of eligible voters. Finally on election day the defendants, either personally or by acting through others, caused numerous false ballots to be cast for the straight Democratic ticket."

The conspirators preyed on the elderly and infirm, because they "would be the most unlikely to challenge the theft of their franchise."

12 years later, in Greene County, Alabama, eleven people were convicted of widespread vote fraud through the use of phony absentee ballots.

"The defendants included Greene County commissioners, officials, and employees; a racing commissioner; a member of the board of education; a Eutaw city councilman; and other community leaders," a White House report concluded . "The conspiracy included using an assembly line to mass produce forged absentee ballots meant to swing elections in favor of preferred candidates."

That "assembly line" involved the conspirators filling out ballots that they had fraudulently mailed to them and then sending them back on Election Day. Some of those involved in the scheme even went so far as to steal ballots out of people's mailboxes!

That same year, the mayor's race in Hialeah, Florida had to be re-run because "so many forged absentee ballots were cast...that the results were void." Incumbent Mayor Raul Martinez (a convicted felon who was allowed to run while awaiting sentencing on corruption charges) had his win reversed. The Los Angeles Times reported at the time that "Circuit Judge Sidney Shapiro found that the mayor's 2-to-1 advantage in absentee ballots may have come from the efforts of 'overzealous' campaign workers at a retirement home, where many voters suffer from schizophrenia and drug addiction."

In other words, members of the mayor's campaign simply filled out ballots for those residents and mailed them back in.

Three years later, the 1997 Miami mayoral election also had to be re-run after 36 people were arrested for cheating the absentee ballot process. As the Miami Herald noted , "numerous absentee ballots were cast in the primary by people who live outside of the City of Miami. Some voters were unaware they had voted at all. One ballot was cast by Manuel Yip, who has been dead for four years."

When the fraud was discovered and the election was held again, a different candidate won.

In 2003, a member of East Chicago Mayor Robert Pastrick's campaign was found guilty of casting fraudulent ballots by promising jobs to people in exchange for letting him vote for them in the primary. Because of this widespread fraud, the primary was re-run and Pastrick lost.

Five years later, community activist group ACORN engaged in what Washington's Secretary of State called "the worst case of voter registration fraud in the history of the state" by submitting nearly 2,000 fake voter registration forms. According to CNN , the group "took addresses from homeless shelters, used fake birthdays and Social Security numbers and took names from baby books to create voters out of thin air."

Clifton Mitchell, the ringleader of the scheme, spent three months in prison, and four of his co-conspirators were sentenced to jail time. ACORN itself was fined $25,000. The group was under investigation for fraud in 10 different states for its activities ahead of the 2008 presidential election.

The following year, The Wall Street Journal reported:

Nevada officials charged ACORN, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of ACORN's forms "are clearly fraudulent." Prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year's general election.

In 2012, Martin, Kentucky Mayor Ruth Thomasine Robinson ran a mail-in ballot scheme that preyed on people who lived in properties she either owned or supervised. The FBI said in a press release :

According to evidence at the trial, Thomasine Robinson and her co-conspirators intimidated poor and disabled citizens in order to gain their votes during Robinson's 2012 campaign for re-election. For instance, members of the conspiracy directed residents of public housing to vote by absentee ballot under the supervision of Thomasine Robinson or another member of the conspiracy. The conspirators also targeted residents of private housing owned and leased by Thomasine Robinson.
Trial testimony established that the conspirators completed absentee ballots, marking their choice of candidates, and instructing the voters to sign the pre-marked ballots. Voters who complied by voting for Thomasine Robinson received promises of better living arrangements and other considerations. Voters who did not comply faced eviction or the loss of priority for public housing. In addition, the evidence established that the defendants offered to pay several voters to vote for Thomasine Robinson.

She was convicted on vote fraud and civil rights violation charges and sentenced to 90 months in federal prison.

In 2017, investigators found widespread mail-in fraud in Dallas City Council elections. Dallas Magazine explained the "harvesting operation" in a lengthy profile of the man who discovered it :

It starts with a knock. Someone in your family opens the door, because you're old, most likely over 80, certainly poor, possibly infirm, probably a minority. You see a familiar face. She is a community organizer, young, passionate. She has come by often, campaigning for Obama or Wendy Davis. Today she comes bearing a fruit basket, because she wants to help. She's also kind enough to carry in your mail.
It just so happens that today's mail brings a large envelope. The envelope contains a letter from the Secretary of State, who thanks you for doing your civic duty. There are pages of instructions in English and Spanish. There is a mail-in ballot for early voting. There is a carrier envelope that must be signed and used to deliver the ballot. The nice woman with the fruit asks if you'd like some help filling out your ballot. Of course you would. It's all very confusing. She asks you to sign on the envelope and says she'll take care of the rest.
That's one scenario. The details can change. The harvesters who show up just as your ballot is delivered, maybe they have to ask you if you've already brought your ballot inside. Maybe they find the package in the mailbox, put it on a clipboard, and ask you to sign your name to the carrier envelope for some bogus reason. Maybe you never vote, so these harvesters just take your ballot out of the mailbox for themselves -- and you never miss it.
Why are these big envelopes being sent to many people who didn't even request a mail-in ballot? Because before these ballots were harvested, these precincts were "seeded." Large batches of applications for ballots, stuffed in manila envelopes, had arrived at the county elections office, each request with a name from voter lists that had also been requested from said office. That elections office alerted harvesters to when the precincts would receive their ballots by mail, so the nice woman with the fruit would know when to have her basket ready.
This is, broadly speaking, how the mail-in ballot game works across Texas and how it has worked in Dallas County for decades.

The following year, in what is perhaps the best known vote fraud case since the 1982 Chicago election, a Congressional race in North Carolina was upended over massive mail-in vote fraud . After Republican Mark Harris beat Democrat Dan McCready by just 905 votes, it became clear that a Harris operative named L. McCrae Dowless, Jr. was running a fraud scheme. He requested more than 1,200 absentee ballots on behalf of unsuspecting voters. When the ballots arrived at their homes, Dowless picked them up and had assistants fill them out.

Dowless and four people who worked for him were criminally charged and the race was re-run. The Republican Party rescinded its support for Harris and he announced that he wouldn't run. Instead, Republican Dan Bishop beat McCready to win the seat.

The next year, Sherikia Hawkins, the Democratic City Clerk of Smithfield, Michigan, was charged with fraud for altering 193 ballots that were mailed to her office ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

As if nearly 40 years of continual fraud associated with mail-in balloting weren't enough, on the exact same day that Twitter fact-checked President Trump's claims, a mail carrier in West Virginia was charged with attempted vote fraud.

Thomas Cooper allegedly changed party affiliations of eight voters on their requests for mail-in ballots. According to an affidavit, he admitted to the crime but claimed that he did it "as a joke" and was "just being silly."

Such widespread vote fraud, of course, is no joke--especially when it spans four decades. And mail-in balloting makes fraud easier. If Twitter is looking for a fact-check, it might ask former President Jimmy Carter and Secretary of State James Baker, who co-chaired the 2005 Commission on Federal Election Reform . One of its primary conclusions was definitive: "Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud."

[Nov 07, 2020] GOP Analyst Raises $170K To Purchase Data, Conduct Deep Dive On Voter Fraud -

Nov 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

GOP Analyst Raises $170K To Purchase Data, Conduct Deep Dive On Voter Fraud


by Tyler Durden Fri, 11/06/2020 - 12:25 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

GOP political analyst and former Trump Data Chief Matt Braynard believes he can detect voter fraud by comparing absentee ballots and early voters to the Social Security Death Index and the National Change of Address Database .

Braynard - former analyst for pollster Frank Luntz - is the president of Braynard Group, which provides services for voter targeting, polling and fundraising.

In order to accomplish this, Braynard will need up to $100,000 to purchase databases from data vendors. In a Thursday Twitter thread, he outlined his plan to audit the election in key states and launched a GoFundMe page which is currently under review ("Getting nuked still a possibility," he says).

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As of this writing, Braynard's GoFundMe is up to just under $170,000 . And in a Friday update, he says he's been in touch with the Trump campaign ("but nothing more to say on that now"), has vendors lined up for Social Security and the Change of Address data, and is "Tracking down source data on Early Voters/ABS [absentee ballots] " adr , 28 minutes ago

All you have to do to prove voter fraud is walk on the street in Milwaukee and find ten people that didn't vote in the election.

Because apparently 9 out of 10 people who live in Milwaukee voted.

kleptomistic , 9 minutes ago

WISCONSIN

Between 4:24AM (Trump winning) and 4:40AM (Biden now winning)

Biden gained 145,870 Votes
Trump gained 27,385 Votes

The % went up 1% while the vote total went up 173,255

If 1% = 173,255 votes, then 100% = 17,325,500 votes


The population of Wisconsin is 5.81 Million!

In 2016, only 2,787,820 people voted!

173,255 = 6.2% of the vote (using 2016) reported in 16 minutes?


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https://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZLBR&pc=MOZI&q=wisconsin+population

bigloser , 17 minutes ago

I did some analysis earlier today and discovered that if you took Hennepin county in Minnesota, which contains the city of Minneapolis, and subtracted those votes from the state total, Trump would win the state by more than 100,000 votes.

This was a true ****show of anti-Democratic proportions.

He's a link to my blog, which has the breakdown, plus other stuff which may be of interest to people.

The Gloves Are Off: Networks Cut Off President Trump During Broadcast; Georgia Flips To Biden

JoePesci , 21 minutes ago

You don't get it, they perpetrated fraud in broad daylight. There is no secrecy. You don't need to study it. It is a brazen seizure of power, message of intimidation, and demonstration that the general populace is too mentally and physically weak to put up any resistance, and that they system is so rotten no one would risk anything to defend it. This is a classic socialist takeover. Our species repeats itself over and over. Go read about the October Revolution, French Revolution, Red Revolution, or a dozen other Revolutions. What follows is equally predictable. Redistribuion. Angry retributive terror. 5 year brutal civil war. Political infighting. Power struggle. Totalitarianism. Total enslavement of 99.999% of people. The answer....i dont know. The right wing resistance loses the civil war, not that it shouldn't be fought, but that is what will happen. No matter how armed or well trained militarily they are. If you have any creative ideas to resist this movement, you could save humanity and change it forever by stopping this repetitious cycle.

Murky Mook , 28 minutes ago

Wow! $170,000. That's a lot of money.

in 2016, Jill Stein, for a recount in two states, raised $7,000.000 in two days on Gofundme.

[Nov 07, 2020] Matt Braynard on Twitter- -the National Change of Address Database. Matches of the ABS-EV voters against the SSDI-NCOA list would indicate fraud. However, I've had zero luck either penetrating the Trump campaign or the RNC, or otherwise getting the suppor

Nov 07, 2020 | mobile.twitter.com

Kyle Becker@kylenabecker

Swing state voting irregularities:

Biden outperforms Senators in swing states, underperforms in VA, NH, RI Biden underperforms Hillary/Obama in cities, except in MI, PA, GA, WI Biden mail-in dumps with 100% margins GOP lose ZERO House races

Something is definitely off.

[Nov 07, 2020] Trump is right to ask the high court to protect the system set up under the Constitution and to stop the Democratic Party's legal maneuvers.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 6 2020 12:36 utc | 9

Interesting take by the former Lieutenant Governor of New York

Don't be fooled by the Biden team's rhetoric that every ballot must be counted and all it takes is patience. Only valid, legally cast ballots should count.

Trump is right to ask the high court to protect the system set up under the Constitution and to stop the Democratic Party's ­legal maneuvers. The Democrats have already used the courts to create pandemonium. They've stolen Election Night. They mustn't be permitted to steal the election, too.>/BLOCKQUOTE>
https://nypost.com/2020/11/04/president-trump-is-simply-suing-to-stop-the-counting-of-bogus-votes/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Nov 07, 2020] I call for a delegation from Bolivia to come and watch the elections in the USA and make sure they go as planned because clearly no one in the USA is capable of handling this

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

DG , Nov 6 2020 10:53 utc | 1

Irony is dead

"The U.S. urged leaders in Ivory Coast to stick to a "democratic" election process hours after President Trump prematurely declared victory."

I call for a delegation from Bolivia to come and watch the elections in the USA and make sure they go as planned because clearly no one in the USA is capable of handling this

[Nov 07, 2020] If Latinos turned out for Trump in record numbers, Biden can be consoled by the fact that dead people seem to have turned out for him in record numbers. Incredible turnout

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 6 2020 10:57 utc | 2

This tweet pretty much sums up the dysfunctionality of the election:

Dinesh D'Souza
@DineshDSouza
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17h
If Latinos turned out for Trump in record numbers, Biden can be consoled by the fact that dead people seem to have turned out for him in record numbers. Incredible turnout! #ElectionResults2020

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But hey, they found another bag of 'mailed in' ballots.

LOL. It's ok, Biden took the lead no need to "find" any more mail-in ballots.

[Nov 07, 2020] Mature mailin ballots often play around with the other ballots, and they produce an offspring of over a thousands baby ballots, and baby ballots take longer to count; so please just be patient.

Nov 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

snake , Nov 6 2020 13:09 utc | 15

they found another bag of 'mailed in' ballots.

Mature ballots often play around with the other ballots, between them, they produce from one to over a thousands baby ballots, and baby ballots take longer to count; so please just be patient.

[Nov 06, 2020] The elites may control who gets nominated but no matter how flawed or repugnant their candidate is or how obvious that the candidate was chosen for them the flocks that follow the candidates act as if they did the choosing.

Nov 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

jinn , Nov 5 2020 13:48 utc | 27

The elites may control who gets nominated but no matter how flawed or repugnant their candidate is or how obvious that the candidate was chosen for them the flocks that follow the candidates act as if they did the choosing.

Trump was given 10 times the free advertising than all the other primary candidates combined and yet his followers think they picked him.

And Biden will go down in history as the candidate who got more popular votes than any other candidate ever has and yet he is about as popular as a hemorrhoid.

[Nov 06, 2020] Stories began circulating last night about the official ballots being watermarked.

Nov 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

blueseas , 40 minutes ago

https://youtu.be/rSGiepYfMy0

Stories began circulating last night about the official ballots being watermarked. This looks like it is true! The watermark is detectable under 640nm wavelength and also the individual printers of the ballots have the same micro dot signature so fraudulent ballots will be easy to detect and investigate. All printers have a micro dot signature that is like a fingerprint for that specific printer. Every ballot, real or fake, can be traced back to the source. This could get very interesting

ibb.co/QfBwRjF

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/trap-set-dept-of-homeland-security-controlled-official-ballots-production-dems-print-extras-not-knowing-about-non-radioactive-isotope-watermarks-on-official-ballots/

https://banned.video/watch?id=5fa480cc65f2d419a08b54e2

Omega Point , 31 minutes ago

One of the best articles on ZH in a while. The elites are so full of hubris, they behave as if the state of affairs since the post-WWII era has always been the state of affairs throughout history and are immutable. They believe that they are cause of America's dominance, not the individuals who built this country on whose goodwill they are now quickly draining.

I think we're like Rome. Currency debasement, no border security, massively corrupt politicians, most of population on welfare, and games and circuses to distract from the rot.

The elites will soon be surprised how quickly things will decline, just as shocked as the Romans when the Visigoths came through the city walls and looted the Imperial City in 410 AD.

Max21c , 45 minutes ago

It's a mix between Nazi Germany and its criminality and thievery and persecution machinery, and Bolshevist Russia and its criminality and thievery and persecution machinery and many third world banana republics and their criminality and thievery and political persecution machinery.

Face it Washingtonians are evil.

ZeroTruth , 5 minutes ago

I had a few drinks in Vegas years back with a guy that said he was some variety of congress critter. The two things I remember him saying was that his entire time in office was spent drumming up money for PACs and chasing personal wealth. He also told me DC was Hollywood for ugly people.

sbin , 35 minutes ago

CCCP is similar in decrepit old party hacks ruining everything.

Unfortunately American exceptional lunatics will try to destroy the world before excepting reality.

Never been a group so corrupt and delusional with so much destructive weaponry.

Dr Strangelove is more appropriate.

goatsman , 42 minutes ago

Tsarist Russia, 1917?

ZeroTruth , 23 minutes ago

Oceania.

I'll tell you exactly how this all plays out:

The US petrofiat is backed solely on our reputation and a fleet of aging nukes that may or may not work. Americucks look like complete idiots abroad and have lost the respect of nearly every nation on Earth. The dumping of the US petrodollar is an imperative to China, Russia and damn near everyone else. A new currency will rise up to take its place soon and then its open season on Americuck, which will have already been destroyed internally by economic collapse, massive homelessness, poverty, starvation and crime. The true owners of the US will want their property and will come and claim it with little to no fight as the Americuck people will be so beat down and demoralized they will have lost the will to do anything, which has already happened as the Americuck people refuse to take up arms against the government that oppressed them and the domestic terrorists that now control major US cities. Americucks will be eliminated en masse and a new nation will be formed, probably a mix of south Americans and Chinese. Whites will be eradicated and remembered by history as trash that was removed by the new heroes of history. The entirety of the MIC will abandon the US, as it has already done...the invasion over our wide open southern border is ample evidence of the oath breakers intent. I suspect the MIC will form its own nation, in league with technocrats.

You will most likely see friends and loved ones perish before your very eyes, see our once great cities burn and foreign troops eliminate Americuck sheeple.

That's the future, all because the Americuck sheeple refuse to take up arms against their lords and masters: Goldman Sachs, JPM Chase and Morgan Stanley.

Americuck...land of the fee and home of the slave.

Is-Be , 15 minutes ago

Imagine a world without Anglo-Saxons; It's easy if you try. Look at Zimbabwe.

RKKA , 4 minutes ago

In the summer of 1941, the 4th Panzer Division of Heinz Guderian, one of the most talented German tank generals, broke through to the Belarusian town of Krichev. Parts of the 13th Soviet Army were retreating. Only one gunner, Nikolai Sirotinin, did not retreat - very young, short, thin.

On that day, it was necessary to cover the withdrawal of troops. "There will be two people with a cannon here," said the battery commander. Nikolai volunteered. The second was the commander himself.

On the morning of July 17, a column of German tanks appeared on the highway.

Nikolai took up a position on the hill right on the field. The cannon was sinking in the high rye, but he could clearly see the highway and the bridge over the river. When the lead tank reached the bridge, Nikolai knocked it out with the first shot. The second shell set fire to the armored personnel carrier that closed the column.

We must stop here. Because it is still not entirely clear why Nikolai was left alone at the cannon. But there are versions. He apparently had just the task - to create a "traffic jam" on the bridge, knocking out the head car of the Nazis. The lieutenant at the bridge and adjusted the fire, and then, disappeared. It is reliably known that the lieutenant was wounded and then he left towards the withdrawing positions. There is an assumption that Nikolai had to move away, having completed the task. But ... he had 60 rounds. And he stayed!

Two tanks tried to move the lead tank off the bridge, but they were also hit. The armored vehicle tried to cross the river not across the bridge. But she got stuck in a swampy shore, where another shell found her. Nikolai shot and shot, knocking out tank after tank ...

Guderian's tanks rested on Nikolai Sirotinin, like the Chinese wall, like the Brest fortress. Already 11 tanks and 6 armored personnel carriers were on fire! For almost two hours of this strange battle, the Germans could not understand where the gun was firing from. And when we reached the position of Nikolai, he had only three shells left. The Germans offered him to surrender. Nikolai responded by firing at them with a carbine.

This last battle was short-lived ...

11 tanks and 7 armored vehicles, 57 soldiers and officers were lost by the Nazis after the battle, where they were blocked by the Russian soldier Nikolai Sirotinin.

The inscription on the monument: "Here at dawn on July 17, 1941 entered into combat with a column of fascist tanks and in a two-hour battle repulsed all enemy attacks, senior artillery sergeant Nikolai Vladimirovich Sirotinin, who gave his life for the freedom and independence of our Motherland."

"After all, he is a Russian soldier, is such admiration necessary?" These words were written down in his diary by Chief Lieutenant of the 4th Panzer Division Henfeld: "July 17, 1941. Sokolnichi, near Krichev. An unknown Russian soldier was buried in the evening. He alone stood at the cannon, shot a convoy of our tanks and infantry for a long time, and died. Everyone was amazed at his courage ... Oberst (Colonel) before the grave said that if all the soldiers of the Fuehrer fought like this Russian soldier, they would have conquered the whole world! Three times they fired volleys from rifles. After all, he is a Russian soldier, is such admiration necessary? "

Ordinary people were ready to defend and die for the USSR. And who is Gorbachev, who destroyed the USSR. A traitor who betrayed everything and everyone. A stupid dilettante who imagines himself a world-class politician. The main drawback of the USSR was that the power was too concentrated in the hands of one person, who was trusted without question. But when people realized where he was leading the country, it was too late.

DeeDeeTwo , 45 minutes ago

The elites, Big Tech, Media and Deep State threw the kitchen sink at this election and did not move the needle. Regardless of who is next President, nothing changes. This is a tribute to the stability of the American system. In fact, the pendulum is swinging against the subversives who are becoming increasingly reckless and discredited.

TBT or not TBT , 46 minutes ago

What did Huxley call the future country depicted in Brave New World?

[Nov 06, 2020] WHY ARE ELECTION WORKERS FILLING OUT BALLOTS??? CAUGHT!!

Nov 06, 2020 | youtu.be

takeaction 1 hour ago (Edited)

WHY ARE ELECTION WORKERS FILLING OUT BALLOTS??? CAUGHT!!

https://youtu.be/XWLPkuczMHA

blueseas 1 hour ago

https://youtu.be/rSGiepYfMy0

Stories began circulating last night about the official ballots being watermarked. This looks like it is true! The watermark is detectable under 640nm wavelength and also the individual printers of the ballots have the same micro dot signature so fraudulent ballots will be easy to detect and investigate.

All printers have a micro dot signature that is like a fingerprint for that specific printer. Every ballot, real or fake, can be traced back to the source. This could get very interesting

ibb.co/QfBwRjF

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/trap-set-dept-of-homeland-security-controlled-official-ballots-production-dems-print-extras-not-knowing-about-non-radioactive-isotope-watermarks-on-official-ballots/

https://banned.video/watch?id=5fa480cc65f2d419a08b54e2

[Nov 06, 2020] Just so everyone knows, large numbers of electronic voting machines in the US can only be audited and verified electronically, which is to say they cannot be audited or verified at all.

Nov 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

William Gruff , Nov 5 2020 14:39 utc | 43

The "peaceful but fiery protests" in Portland are just a small taste of the delightful entertainment that we will get to enjoy if somehow Trump's election fraud prevails over the establishment election fraud. Who is so dull that they don't want more of that?

Riots are good for Americans. Gets them off their couches for a few hours.

augusto , Nov 5 2020 14:48 utc | 44

Jinn, ''the most valuable to TPDB, will still win, who can handle the herd''...

i would just take this pen and flatly say that everything you say is pure immaculate BS but then I realized I actually didn't catch what you mean.
Please what you mean?

William Gruff , Nov 5 2020 14:49 utc | 45
JaimeInTexas @42: "The Antrim County Clerk's Office has been working around the clock to identify what caused the inaccuracies."

Circe: "It was the Russians!"

Just so everyone knows, large numbers of electronic voting machines in the US can only be audited and verified electronically, which is to say they cannot be audited or verified at all.

[Nov 06, 2020] Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States

Nov 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

In most elections, the majority of votes are cast "down the ticket" - meaning, a voter supports both party's presidential nominee and state Congressional candidates. In fact, according to Pew Research , "overwhelming shares of voters who are supporting Trump and Biden say they are also supporting the same-party candidate for Senate."

Typically, this means that that the number of votes for a presidential candidate and that party's Senate candidates are relatively close.

Twitter user "US Rebel" (@USRebellion1776), however, found that the number of votes cast for Joe Biden far exceeds those cast for that state's Senate candidates in swing states , while those cast for Trump and GOP Senators remains far closer.

In Michigan , for example, there was a difference of just 7,131 votes between Trump and GOP candidate John James , yet the difference between Joe Biden and Democratic candidate Gary Peters was a staggering 69,093 .

In Georgia , there was an 818 vote difference between Trump and the GOP Senator, vs. a 95,000 difference between Biden and the Democratic candidate for Senator.

Yet, in two non-swing states , there was "no massive flood of mysterious empty Biden votes," leading US Rebel to suggest "It's fraud."

In Wyoming, the difference on the Democratic side is is just 725 votes, while in Montana the difference is 27,457.

What's going on here? If it were "never-Trumpers" pairing Biden with their GOP Congressional picks? If so, we would expect fewer votes for Trump than GOP Senators. We're open to suggestions. Biff says: November 5, 2020 at 1:01 am GMT • 1.1 days ago • 100 Words

and it's suspicious that the president was leading in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states when the authorities decided they couldn't finish counting votes until tomorrow.

Well, they needed time to put the fix in. This is exactly as expected – Trump rolling to a clear victory, and then an abrupt stop of the counting process.

As I predicted many months ago – the tamper happy voting machines will selecting a President Biden. SurfingUSA says: November 5, 2020 at 1:42 am GMT • 1.1 days ago ↑

If by "good" election you mean a colossal nightmare that revealed the fatal fractures between the vote-rigging by the left and the honest and sincere support for our Constitutional Republic by traditionalists, why yes. anon [773] • Disclaimer says: November 5, 2020 at 5:23 am GMT • 22.0 hours ago ↑

I'm not sure how anyone can call a massive fraud a "Good Election". A Biden win will be the shame of America, it'll mean we are now officially a massively corrupt third world country that can't even run a legitimate election.

A TrumpTV cable channel would be great, but he might have a hard time attracting advertisers. Which means he'd probably have to launch a YouTube channel, or just hosts it on his own website, which would make it hard for him to attract broadcasting talent.

[Nov 06, 2020] Interesting case study on vote fraud occurs at the local level

Nov 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Nov 5 2020 13:55 utc | 28

Interesting case study on vote fraud occurs at the local level. I posted it on an earlier thread. What is staggering is how many people were involved.

Chicago, however, is known for its fires, and there was a roaring one there in 1982 that resulted in one of the largest voter fraud prosecutions ever conducted by the U.S. Department of Justice. The telltale smoke arose out of one of the closest governor's races in Illi­nois history; and as for the fire, the U.S.

Attorney in Chicago at the time, Daniel Webb, estimated that at least 100,000 fraudulent votes (10 percent of all votes in the city) had been cast.[2] Sixty-five individuals were indicted for federal election crimes, and all but two (one found incompetent to stand trial and another who died) were convicted. [3]

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-chicago

[Nov 06, 2020] Miranda Devine- Biden may steal 2020 election for the elitists, but Democrats will live to regret it by Miranda Devine

Notable quotes:
"... Trump's campaign claimed Wednesday he still had a path to victory if he keeps Pennsylvania and somehow Arizona comes back to him. But even if Trump does lose, it may be a blessing in disguise for Republicans. ..."
"... The result has crushed Democratic expectations of a clean sweep. It wasn't a landslide win against an unpopular president, as we had been told so confidently for months. ..."
"... If Biden wins, it will be by the narrowest margin. And all the hundreds of millions spent on retaking the Senate came to nothing, with the Republicans looking to hold onto their lead. The top targets, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. Lindsey Graham, survived easily. ..."
"... The failure means that in 2022, the House is more likely to revert to Republican control, setting up a lame-duck presidency. ..."
"... Unfortunately, nothing can be done to stop a President Biden-Harris repeat of the geopolitical errors of the Obama presidency, such as appeasing China and Iran's mullahs and signing onto the Paris climate accord. But a President Biden in cognitive decline will sooner or later be replaced by his unpopular, untested vice president, Kamala Harris. Saddled with a recession and policies that will only exacerbate economic decline, the next four years will hobble Democrats. ..."
"... Whoever wins this election, the result is a humiliation for the Trump-deranged media and the tame pollsters who provide them with the justification for their dishonest political narrative. ..."
"... Whoever wins, this election has exposed the frauds and liars who pose as our elites, and half of America won't forget it. ..."
"... In a press conference in Philadelphia Wednesday, Giuliani laid out one clear anomaly in which, contrary to Pennsylvania law, Republican election observers were denied the right to oversee the counting of 120,000 ballots by being forced to stand 20 to 30 feet away from where they were being counted. ..."
"... In one case, a woman claiming to be an election volunteer in Michigan's Clark County claimed on video she had discovered a box of 500 ballots outside the counting facility from people who were not on the voter rolls. ..."
Nov 06, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

The president has every right to ensure electoral laws are enforced to prevent fraud. In fact, he owes it to the 68 million deplorables who voted for him. Let's be real. Goliath was never going to let David breeze through the rematch .

The provinces, for whom President Trump is an instrument, not an end in himself, were never going to have an easy time winning the 2020 election against the amassed might of the Democratic Party, the "Fake News" media and allied pollsters, Big Tech, woke billionaires and the celebrity class, who united to stamp out the barbarian orange emperor.

The "chumps" and "ugly folk," as Joe Biden calls them, came out in their glorious millions from the American heartland on Election Day and now we will see if people power prevails, if the nationalist populist movement enabled by Donald Trump, but not defined by him, lives to fight another day against the corrupt globalists represented by the sad husk of Biden.

It boils down to Trump's belief that the Democrats perpetrated widespread voter fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and elsewhere to steal the election.

TUCKER CARLSON: THE ELECTION THAT NARROWLY SAVED AMERICA

While even those in his own party are urging him to lose gracefully, the president has every right to ensure electoral laws are enforced to prevent fraud. In fact, he owes it to the 68 million deplorables who voted for him. To that end, Trump has turned to an old ally, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, to lead a heroic legal challenge .

In Wisconsin, 300 ballots went missing when the Willow Township municipal clerk went home sick and no one could find her, the Washington Post reported. The ballots eventually turned up yesterday, with 157 votes for Trump and 114 for Biden.

In Arizona -- which was called early for Biden on election night, but the Trump campaign still says they can win -- a "data error" claimed that 95 percent of votes had been counted yesterday when only 86 percent had been, and the remainder reportedly were from Trump-heavy counties.

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So you can see that, in such a close election, Trump's concerns are not frivolous. Fraud is corrosive, but so is claiming fraud where there is none. We will see where the lawsuits land. In any case, Biden as much as declared victory yesterday, saying that by the time the count is finished, "I believe I will be the winner . . . we are winning in enough states to reach the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency."

Trump's campaign claimed Wednesday he still had a path to victory if he keeps Pennsylvania and somehow Arizona comes back to him. But even if Trump does lose, it may be a blessing in disguise for Republicans.

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The result has crushed Democratic expectations of a clean sweep. It wasn't a landslide win against an unpopular president, as we had been told so confidently for months.

If Biden wins, it will be by the narrowest margin. And all the hundreds of millions spent on retaking the Senate came to nothing, with the Republicans looking to hold onto their lead. The top targets, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. Lindsey Graham, survived easily.

More from Opinion Ben Shapiro: 2020 election's one big message -- voters refuse to accept woke media's narrative on race Dan Gainor: NY Times columnist tells truth -- says paper 'not good at capturing rightward half of the country'

The fatal miscalculations of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in cynically refusing to negotiate on the latest stimulus bill have cost the Democrats dearly in the House, where they have gone backward by at least six seats. They did not manage to get rid of a single Republican. So much for the blue wave.

The failure means that in 2022, the House is more likely to revert to Republican control, setting up a lame-duck presidency.

The Democrats won't be able to pack the Supreme Court, abolish the Electoral College or make DC and Puerto Rico states. They will struggle to impose the Green New Deal.

Unfortunately, nothing can be done to stop a President Biden-Harris repeat of the geopolitical errors of the Obama presidency, such as appeasing China and Iran's mullahs and signing onto the Paris climate accord. But a President Biden in cognitive decline will sooner or later be replaced by his unpopular, untested vice president, Kamala Harris. Saddled with a recession and policies that will only exacerbate economic decline, the next four years will hobble Democrats.

Their flaws and hypocrisy will be on full display, with a good chance of the 2024 presidential race being won by one of the new generation of Republican heirs to Trumpism.

Whoever wins this election, the result is a humiliation for the Trump-deranged media and the tame pollsters who provide them with the justification for their dishonest political narrative.

Let history record that on the Sunday before the election, the New York Times declared that "all 15" of their columnists suffer from mandatory Trump Derangement Syndrome.

"All 15 of our columnists explain what the past four years have cost America" was the introduction to a carnival of wokesplaining.

That's what you get when you fire opinion editors who publish conservatives. Whoever wins, this election has exposed the frauds and liars who pose as our elites, and half of America won't forget it.

In a press conference in Philadelphia Wednesday, Giuliani laid out one clear anomaly in which, contrary to Pennsylvania law, Republican election observers were denied the right to oversee the counting of 120,000 ballots by being forced to stand 20 to 30 feet away from where they were being counted.

"They were never able to see the ballot itself, never able to see if it was properly postmarked, properly addressed, properly signed on the outside . . . this went on for 20 hours. While all of you thought there was some kind of legitimate count going on here in Philadelphia, it was totally illegitimate."

Giuliani's team has also launched a lawsuit in Wisconsin , where he says that, after election observers had gone home, "at 3 or 4 in the morning about 120,000 ballots appeared . . . and they all got counted."

The Trump campaign also filed a lawsuit in Michigan Wednesday, with campaign manager Bill Stepien claiming Republican observers were denied "meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots and the counting process, as guaranteed by Michigan law."

There are other allegations of fraud or irregularities, late-counted votes and suspected vote harvesting being reported around the country.

In one case, a woman claiming to be an election volunteer in Michigan's Clark County claimed on video she had discovered a box of 500 ballots outside the counting facility from people who were not on the voter rolls.

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[Nov 05, 2020] Maybe Trump and Biden could publicly draw straws to get over with it

Most people find it rather hard to believe that the miraculous turn-around in the votes for Biden was due to anything other than fraud.
Nov 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

It seems that we all will have to fill up our popcorn supplies as the rather comical and disgraceful process of U.S. vote counting is likely to continue until maybe December 8, the safe harbor date on which the states will have to certify their electors.

The race is nowhere near where the Democrats and their supporting media had expected it to go. Just last week polls claimed that Biden would lead in Wisconsin by 17 percent . The current margin is a rather dubious 0.6 percent which upcoming recounts may well eliminate.

That the Democrats lose House seats, do not win the Senate and barely manage to drag their demented presidential candidate towards a stalemate tells a lot about their lack of sane policies. A donor party completely disinterested in what the people really want - medicare for all, no fracking etc. - will have little chance to survive a future onslaught of conservatives with a more competent figure head than Donald Trump.

There will be protests, probably violent ones, and more legal action from either side. I see no comprise possible that would satisfy both parties. I fear that, should Trump lose this election. Trumpism will only grow and make the U.S. ungovernable.

Maybe Trump and Biden could publicly draw straws to get over with it.

[Nov 05, 2020] Election Fraud is real. Time to #DemExit

Mar 11, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Steven D on Tue, 03/10/2020 - 9:48pm

I did not support #DemExit before tonight. But I just got off the phone with my 24 year old daughter. She's depressed as hell by what we all see, because they are not bothering to hide it anymore. I could not promise her things will get better, because they won't.

We do not have a democracy, we have an #oligarchy and when shit hits the fan (as it will sooner than later), our nation will become another dictatorship or military junta.

So, I'm done with the party system, because we only have one party - the party for and by the rich. I'm abandoning the Democratic party because it abandoned us for corporate cash decades ago. That's all I have to say. End of story.

snoopydawg on Tue, 03/10/2020 - 9:52pm

I hope people do it

Democrats just told us to bend over and hold the Vaseline. But if these polls are true then my sigline is true more than ever.

So, with lines of Voters still in Michigan, the stupid fvcking media calls it for Biden.

Don't leave. They are still recounting parts of Texas and California.

YOUR VOTE COUNTS. #PrimaryElection #SuperTuesday pic.twitter.com/oi9rwiKEUr

-- Biden's (@BernieWon2016) March 11, 2020

Hey people your candidate dropped out over a week ago.

boriscleto on Tue, 03/10/2020 - 9:55pm
The Michigan SoS

@snoopydawg Said results won't be available until tomorrow. We still don't have full results from California...

Democrats just told us to bend over and hold the Vaseline. But if these polls are true then my sigline is true more than ever.

So, with lines of Voters still in Michigan, the stupid fvcking media calls it for Biden.

Don't leave. They are still recounting parts of Texas and California.

YOUR VOTE COUNTS. #PrimaryElection #SuperTuesday pic.twitter.com/oi9rwiKEUr

-- Biden's (@BernieWon2016) March 11, 2020

Hey people your candidate dropped out over a week ago.

Shahryar on Tue, 03/10/2020 - 10:54pm
I've looked at the California numbers

@boriscleto

reporting that 82% is in. If so then Biden would need to get 67% of the remaining votes. He's currently at 27%. What are the odds that such a huge number of Biden votes would now come in? Zero, of course. There's no chance of it and Bernie has won California. But CNN, for one, is still refusing to call it for him. They had no problem calling Michigan, though, with something like 18% in.

Perhaps Bernie will hold on and win Washington. We'll see. Tulsi has over 8,500 votes so far. If we were to emulate the Hillbots we'd be screaming at her, saying she hurt Bernie!!! ! But we don't do that because we're more aware.

#2 Said results won't be available until tomorrow. We still don't have full results from California...

tle on Wed, 03/11/2020 - 8:16am
I was surprised to see Tulsi get .4% in Mississippi.

@Shahryar @Shahryar Meanwhile, Bernie shows at 14.8%, below the 15% threshold.

I did not have an instant of anger at Tulsi, only sadness.

Sadness that the mockery of democracy that holds sway in this country would repeatedly set us up for those ridiculous attacks that someone has been a "spoiler".

[Nov 05, 2020] Trump Claims Election Fraud, Says He Has Won

Nov 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Ilya G Poimandres , Nov 4 2020 9:26 utc | 16

WaPo :

With millions of votes yet to be counted, President Trump falsely asserted election fraud, pledged to mount a legal challenge to official state results and made a premature claim of victory.

Weird to have popcorn for breakfast ...

Thing is they just stopped counting. As soon as it looked like Trump was going down the path Trafalgar Group predicted, and then some, boom, nothing. 100 votes added every 5 minutes on the New York Times map of the country. What's the excuse - sleep? When has that ever been an issue? The votes were paused so that Trump didn't get his 270 on the day, before the mail in votes were counted. Then Trump would Supreme Court and the battle would be fought there. Now it's gonna be a lot messier. The pause looks like a trick to stuff ballot boxes, from afar at least.


Matthias , Nov 4 2020 10:44 utc | 25

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
We do not have a decision. Right now it looks as if Biden may win by a slim margin. However, when you look at what happened, the states that would tip the scale in Trump's favour just stopped counting and handing in their results. This reeks of fraud. We may see that election night allowed the FBI to gather sufficient concrete evidence of voter fraud by the Dems in order to provide Trump with the ammo to totally tank them in court. If the fraud can be proven - and I believe it can - then all Dem operatives will go to jail and the election gets decided without competition.

Bemildred , Nov 4 2020 10:49 utc | 26

Posted by: Ilya G Poimandres | Nov 4 2020 10:37 utc | 24

Any system in which employees have to vote on a working day is bad, disadvantages employees vs employers. Employers have power over workers, they are not "equals" at work, and they use it.

Any system in which everybody has to assemble to vote is bad, unless you are going to pay to get them all there.

You are quite right about the problem of literacy, but nobody is saying you cannot vote in person if you need to or choose to.

Internet voting can also be made at least as secure as your bank account, eh?

The crooks are going to cheat regardless, that's who they are. The question is do the non-crooks have a fast, secure way to get their views counted or not? Right now we have "deliberately not" as the answer here.

oldhippie , Nov 4 2020 11:06 utc | 30

Trump is not serving himself well. No surprise there. Any American election has ambiguities built in and infinite openings for lawyers. Right now Trump's attorneys are asking themselves if the fix is in and if they want this guy for a client.

If Biden can get as far as repeating the words of the oath of office he faces 46 or 48% of the electorate just not believing it. Some of those would, in better times, relax about it after a while. They would entertain doubts and get on with life. With the Democrats thinking of them all as Demons from Hell and Mark2 demanding death for the infidels the wound remains open. Biden couldn't even lead the Senate Judiciary Committee. He will not reduce the national rancor. Kamala can only do worse.

Whoever is rigging this election is wondering what they got into. Nobody wins. Everybody loses

Steve , Nov 4 2020 11:19 utc | 32

I'm starting to believe that karma is real. The way the USA often disrupt democracy abroad is now happening on its soil. I hope it gets dirtier. Hopefully some moderate rebels among them would now declare war on the state.

EoinW , Nov 4 2020 11:45 utc | 36

Uncle Tungsten @ 18

The problem with mail in voting is that it increases the opportunity for fraud. Are these democracies with mail in voting really functioning democracies or does mail in voting allow them to fix elections and maintain the status quo? Nothing ever changes in Canada, even on the rare occasions Conservatives(CINO) win. The status quo is a wonderful thing for the ruling elite. You better believe they love mail in voting too. No surprise that Trump - not a career politician - is against mail in votes.

Zanon , Nov 4 2020 11:46 utc | 37

Result past elections in the states that are now focused upon:

Georgia
2004 Republican
2008 Republican
2012 Republican
2016 Republican

Michigan
2004 Democrat
2008 Democrat
2012 Democrat
2016 Republican BUT close call

Wisconin
2004 Democrat BUT close call
2008 Democrat
2012 Democrat
2016 Republican

Pennsylvania
2004 Democrat
2008 Democrat
2012 Democrat
2016 Republican

North Carolina
2004 Republican
2008 Democrat BUT close call
2012 Republican
2016 Republican

Nevada
2004 Republican
2008 Democrat
2012 Democrat
2016 Democrat

Norwegian , Nov 4 2020 11:49 utc | 39
@Matthias | Nov 4 2020 11:07 utc | 31
Watching current electoral college:
Biden 238 with potential for 16 more if the current lead remains => 254 and Biden's lead is < 1% in NV and WI
Trump 213 with potential for 70 more if the current lead remains => 283 and Trump's lead is clear in MI and PA, > 2% in GA and NC
I really don't understand why most of you act as if Trump lost.

Haven't you noticed that truth and reality does not matter anymore? We live in a post truth world, where ideology trumps everything. Other than that, you are 100% correct.

Elections are nothing more than convenient launch pads for a color revolutions these days.

blues , Nov 4 2020 11:56 utc | 40
Political power is the most addictive drug that was ever created. Many millions of addicts will do anything to obtain their fix. This is why political voting ballots must be paper and publicly and openly hand counted at an extremely local level. Single points of failure will wreck democracy.

I do not trust my computer with my money! I have a whole 'separate' bank that I use only for necessary computer transactions. I do not have Microsoft Windows! You can probably install PCLOS Linux yourself, or have a geek kid install Salix Linux. These are mostly free of something insecure known as systemd infestation, which all the rest have, making them almost as bad as Windows. The Internet has baked-in insecurity simply because the people who invented it were oblivious to the possibility that some bad actors would use it to cheat innocent users.

Ranked choice (RCV/IRV) voting was also invented by people who didn't consider tampering by bad actors. That's why the simple score (aka 'range') voting is needed. Americans are oblivious to the fact that there do exist people who will gladly cheat them (especially political party operatives).

Tobin Paz , Nov 4 2020 12:48 utc | 42

A few things people seem to forget:

The United States is an oligarchy

The U.S. government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern universities has concluded.

People will not get access to healthcare, Wall Street will continue to be bailed out at the expense of Main Street, and the war machine will march on.

The Unites States ranks last in fair elections in the West

According to the EIP, U.S. elections scored lower than Argentina, South Africa, Tunisia, and Rwanda -- and strikingly lower than even Brazil. Specifically compared to Western democracies, U.S. elections scored the lowest, slightly worse than the U.K., while Denmark and Finland topped the list.

The electronic voting system of the United States is is corrupt as f@#ck

ES&S, which by itself accounts for 44 percent of US election equipment, received its initial financing from the families of Nelson Bunker Hunt and Howard Ahmanson, Jr., right-wing billionaires who also contributed substantially to the Chalcedon Foundation, Christian Reconstruction's main think tank.

Hunt and Ahmanson were also prominent early members of the Council for National Policy, a networking group for the Religious Right and billionaires whose recent members have included Kelly Anne Conway, Steve Bannon, Mike Pence, Richard DeVos, Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, Robert and Rebekka Mercer, and Bob Dallas, a convicted embezzler whose nonprofits have been closely linked to massive voter data leaks.

22% of mail-in ballots don't get counted

It begins with a stone-cold fact: Mail-in ballots are lost by the millions -- especially the ballots of low-income young and minority voters, those folks often called, "Democrats."

The seminal MIT study, Losing Votes by Mail, warns that 22% – more than one in five ballots – never get counted.

Zanon , Nov 4 2020 13:09 utc | 46

This is a bit shady, Pennsylvania:

In addition to whatever ballots have come in on Election Day, Pennsylvania poll workers will be able to count mail-in ballots that arrive in the next three days -- even if there is not a clear postmark and even if the signature on the ballot does not match voter rolls.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/04/pa-governor-pledges-to-count-one-million-outstanding-ballots/

[Nov 05, 2020] Battered divided America awaits vote count in presidential race

Nov 05, 2020 | www.rt.com

04:43 GMT

A self-professed whistleblower who claims to work for the US Postal Service told Project Veritas mail carriers in Michigan have been instructed to retrieve absentee ballots from general mail circulation so they can be stamped with Tuesday's date and counted as legitimate votes. Project Veritas founder James O'Keeffe said the Postal Service's internal investigation body contacted him and is considering looking into the matter. Michigan was sued by the Trump campaign after an unusual last-minute spike in Biden votes.

[Nov 05, 2020] Don't Forget LBJ's Election Theft by jacob g. hornberger

Nov 05, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

The mainstream pro-Biden media is poking fun at Donald Trump's suggestion that there could be fraud involved in the post-election receipt of mail-in ballots. Apparently they're not familiar with the election-theft case of Lyndon Johnson, who would go on to become president of the United States.

The entire matter is detailed in Robert Caro's second book in his biographical series on Johnson. The book is entitled Means of Ascent .

Johnson election theft took place in 1948, when he was running for the Democratic nomination for US Senate against Texas Governor Coke Stevenson, one of the most admired and respected governors in the history of the state.

In the primary election, Stevenson led Johnson by 70,000 votes, but because he didn't have a majority of the votes, he was forced into a run-off. The run-off was held on a Saturday. On the Sunday morning after the run-off, Stevenson was leading by 854 votes.

As a New York Times review of Caro's account stated, the day after the run-off election it was "discovered" that the returns of a particular county had not yet been counted. The newly discovered votes were overwhelmingly in favor of Johnson. Then, on Monday more returns came in from the Rio Grande Valley.

Nonetheless, on Tuesday, the State Election Bureau announced that Stevenson had won by 349 votes. Nothing changed on Wednesday and Thursday after the election. On Friday, precincts in the Rio Grande Valley made "corrections" to their tallies, which narrowed Stevenson's lead to 157.

But also on Friday, Jim Wells County, which was governed as a personal fiefdom by a powerful South Texas rancher named George Parr, filed "amended" returns for what has become famous as "Box 13" that gave Johnson another 200 votes. When all was said and done, Johnson had "won" the election by 87 votes.

It was later discovered that one of Parr's men had changed the total tally for Johnson from 765 to 965 by simply curling the 7 into a 9.

Where did the extra 200 votes come from? The last 202 names on on the election roll in Box 13 were in a different color ink from the rest of the names, the names were in alphabetical order, and they were all in the same handwriting. When Caro was researching his book, he secured a statement from Luis Salas, an election judge in Jim Wells County, who acknowledged the fraud and confessing his role in it.

As the Washington Post reported , to investigate what obviously appeared quite suspicious Stevenson employed the assistance of Frank Hamer, the Texas Ranger who had trapped and killed Bonnie and Clyde. It was to no avail. Johnson got a friendly state judge to issue an injunction preserving the status quo, after which the Democratic executive committee, by one vote, declared Johnson to be the winner.

Stevenson took the matter to federal court but the Supreme Court punted, declaring that it had no right to interfere with a state election.

So, Lyndon Johnson stole the election and ended up going to Washington as Texas' US Senator. Ironically, if Stevenson had become the state's senator instead, Johnson would never have been selected to be John Kennedy's vice-presidential running mate and, consequently, would never have been president.

No wonder Donald Trump is worried about those Democrats! For that matter, those Democrats should be just as worried about those Republicans!

Reprinted with permission from Future of Freedom Foundation .


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[Nov 05, 2020] Chaos! Mystery Votes Cast Doubt On US Election

Nov 05, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

written by daniel mcadams wednesday november 4, 2020
The introduction and legalization of "ballot harvesting," where operatives can collect and submit boxes of ballots without proof of identity, has thrown a huge monkey wrench into last night's presidential vote tally.

States are wavering wildly as hundreds of thousands of votes are suddenly "discovered."

Hillary Clinton's former lawyer is behind the mass legalization of this questionable process. Is this the worst run election in US history? Watch today's Liberty Report:

https://youtu.be/Lzum7yzjlbQ

[Nov 05, 2020] What matters and what does not

Nov 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

snake , Nov 5 2020 3:32 utc | 299

300 election don't count comments not one comment about the future of America? All I see here is who shall be king of the mountain. What is it that our leader (whoever it is, should do)?

1. Reduce military spending by 50% per year for each of the next four years.
2. Close 50% of the military bases each year, over each of the next four years
3. Standardize national examinations for high school and undergraduate degrees pass the examination
receive the BS or BA.. degree.. eliminate any all accreditation requirements, people can study wherever
whenever and how ever they wish. Tutorials not bureaucratic institutions will prepare the students for
the examinations.
4. eliminate copyright and patent laws so as to reduce the wealth gap and so as to return America to
from monopolism to capitalism.
5. fix the constitution so the governed have a powerful, meaningful say in not just in how uses the
government to govern, but also so the governed have a powerful say in what it is those who are elected
to the government must accomplish why they are in the employee of our elected government.
6. Find a way to get the USA activities subject to human rights courts.
7. Paint all of the white people black in order to eliminate race as condition of life.

A list of goals and objectives should be put forth on what the elected are supposed to accomplish in the next four years. In that way, it will not matter who is the President, what will matter is did he or she accomplish what it was they were elected to do?


uncle tungsten , Nov 5 2020 3:34 utc | 301

H.Schmatz #255

your quote from Rafael Poch, US´Qing Syndrome:-

There is nothing in China like the military-industrial complex of the United States that structurally fosters militarism and imperialism with its powerful "lobbies" and think tanks. The mandarins of the United States are prisoners of a network that greatly complicates their adaptation to the new world. Its powerful and efficient propaganda apparatus ("information & entertainment") presents the United States' two-headed, single-party political regime based on the money aristocracy as a democracy.

That is really well put.

"The mandarins of the United States are prisoners of a network that greatly complicates their adaptation to the new world"


Exactly that!

Nick , Nov 5 2020 3:38 utc | 303

Nevada will put Joe Biden over for the Presidential win..
Tonight.. Now the question is. How long will Biden last until Harris becomes the Queen of Spades of Pentagon?

gm , Nov 5 2020 4:57 utc | 316

RE: gm | Nov 5 2020 4:14 utc | 312


See? Twitter is cool with allowing this posting by David Litt, former Obama speechwriter, *today* 5:34 pm Nov 4 of a democrat ballot "curing" (post Nov 3 ballot harvesting) assistance operation in Georgia over the next three days (Wed, Thurs and Fri)

https://twitter.com/davidlitt/status/1324117440297639940

"About this event

Attention everyone in or near Georgia: We need YOUR help today! This race is not over and we need every single vote to be counted.

It is all hands on deck and all eyes on Georgia!

Join us today for a virtual training to learn how to knock doors to help voters cure their ballots. We need you in this fight with us today and tomorrow and Friday. We've come so far, this is how we bring it home. See you in the virtual training room and out knocking doors soon!"

And this is legal??? Under Georgia law?

gm , Nov 5 2020 5:35 utc | 317

"The guy at the source of the whole kerfluffle acknowledges that the 130,000 magical votes Tweet was based on incorrect data"

-Posted by: _K_C_ | Nov 5 2020 3:50 utc | 306

I'm not so sure about this, _K_C. His explanation for the late night MI Biden vote bump "kerfluffle" still smells sketchy to me. Given the stakes, could someone have gotten that guy to "flip" his statement after the fact?

See this from tonight's Tucker Carlson show:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/trump-legal-adviser-jenna-ellis-discusses-magical-138000-michigan-biden-votes-appeared-nowhere-middle-night-video/

PS: you will note that all the Twitter post links to the data/details in the story were evaporated by Twitter.


[Nov 05, 2020] Trump didn't hold onto his 2016 white male base. Had he kept them, he would have won despite Democrat (or is it intelligence agencies?) shenanigans.

Nov 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Old and Grumpy , Nov 4 2020 20:44 utc | 210

I live in PA, Democrats cheat. Republicans let them. It is a very corrupt state. Having said all that, Trump didn't hold onto his 2016 white male base. Maybe it is just me, but I think that is huge. Had he kept them, he would have won despite Democrat (or is it intelligence agencies?) shenanigans. From what I read Jared told Ivanka's daddy they would vote for him. They had no other choice. I haven't stopped laughing all day over that Kushner fail.


v , Nov 4 2020 21:00 utc | 215

Posted by: _K_C_ | Nov 4 2020 20:36 utc | 206 with the Glenn Greenwald quote

No matter what the final result, there will be substantial doubts about its legitimacy by one side or the other, perhaps both. And no deranged conspiracy thinking is required for that. An electoral system suffused with this much chaos, error, protracted outcomes and seemingly inexplicable reversals will sow doubt and distrust even among the most rational citizens.
The next time Americans hear from their government that they need to impose democracy in other countries -- through wars, invasion, bombing campaigns or other forms of clandestine CIA "interference" -- they should insist that democracy first be imposed in the United States. An already frazzled, intensely polarized and increasingly hostile populace now has to confront yet another election in the richest and most technologically advanced country on earth where the votes cannot even be counted in a way that inspires even minimal degrees of confidence.

My analysis of the election itself, and the ongoing, systemic failures of the Democratic Party no matter the outcome, will be posted later today.


The bold text is some odd framing. So according to Greenwald it's ok for the CIA to overthrow other governments as long as democracy is installed within the Empire?!

exiled off mainstree , Nov 4 2020 21:09 utc | 218

It all boils down to Joe Stalin's statement that it is more important who counts the votes than who casts them. The states with all of the doubtful postal votes created by methods such as forging the names of mental incompetents living in rest homes are controlled by democratic political machines.

Two of them, Minnesota and Wisconsin, apparently cast more votes than registered voters.

Even if they allow same day registration, 90% turnout appears fraudulent based on the history and the quality of the candidates running, a mental incompetent with a proven record of corruption covered up by the propaganda media, and a blustery self-promoter who, even if he may have meant well in some of his pronouncements, proved inadequate to liquidate the deep state as promised because he kept appointing denizens of this establishment to key positions. His biggest mistake was his failure to achieve control over the Justice apparatus of the yankee state.

Zanon , Nov 4 2020 21:39 utc | 226

More Ballots were found in Pennsylvania and every vote goes to...Biden

Two more batches of Pennsylvania vote were reported:

-23,277 votes in Philadelphia, all for Biden

-about 5,300 votes in Luzerne County, nearly 4,000 of which were for Biden

*With 83% of the expected vote in, Trump's lead in PA is now just below 6 points.

https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1324093784452403202

james , Nov 4 2020 21:41 utc | 227

craig murrays view American Presidents

Zanon , Nov 4 2020 22:00 utc | 233

Found this on Philadelphia, so fraud itself is not some made up conspiracy claim that never occur, thats for sure.


South Philly judge of elections admits he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates
https://www.inquirer.com/news/voter-fraud-philadelphia-ward-leader-judge-of-elections-domenick-demuro-guilty-plea-20200521.html

Former congressman indicted on voter fraud, bribery charges
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/23/former-congressman-indicted-voter-fraud-bribery-charges-379935

cal , Nov 4 2020 22:43 utc | 242

What we're seeing happening in Michigan and Wisconsin is nothing short of election theft. That is unambiguous to anyone who is paying attention. But they're having trouble revealing it to other Americans because, on cue, it's being censored across the board. The President's Tweets are being hit. Prominent conservatives' Facebook and Twitter posts are being suppressed.

For those who are just coming in on the topic I'm conspicuously dancing around, it appears that the election really is being stolen right before our eyes. Michigan and Wisconsin are seeing voting totals materialize overnight that make it clear the fix is in. And they're not even trying to hide it. In Michigan, an overnight vote update added 138,339 votes to Vice President Joe Biden's totals. That same updated yield wait for it ZERO votes for President Trump.

Josh , Nov 4 2020 22:46 utc | 243

If truth cannot be determined, or proven, in the election process, then the election process is null and void in reality.

H.Schmatz , Nov 4 2020 23:31 utc | 255

Anyway, the MIC wins...

From an article by Rafael Poch, US´Qing Syndrome , commenting on last book by political scientist Kishore Mahbubani Has China Won?

If the last electoral campaign in the United States has made something clear, it is to confirm that that country does not have a strategy for the new world of the 21st century. The only clear recipe to prevent decline is war, commercial and technological, and the military threat with an increasingly nuclear diplomacy . Trump has divided his country on almost everything except his trade and technology war against China. This belligerence is something that is taken for granted in the presidential candidates who compete with each other to show who pampers the military and the military-industrial complex the most and who is more anti-Chinese, fleeing like the plague from any fickleness of laziness before the adversary. It is not just an ideological "sacred cow" emerging from the inertia of a century of world domination, but a structural defect .

Spending on weapons and wars is not something that in the United States is decided within the framework of a rational national strategy that assesses what weapons systems are needed for the current and specific geopolitical situation, says Mahbubani. "Guns are bought as a result of a complex system of lobbying by manufacturers who cleverly located their industries in every congressional constituency in America, thereby allowing politicians who want to keep jobs in their territories (and their own positions in Congress) are the ones who decide what weapons will be produced for the army" .

Advantages of the adversary

There is nothing in China like the military-industrial complex of the United States that structurally fosters militarism and imperialism with its powerful "lobbies" and think tanks. The mandarins of the United States are prisoners of a network that greatly complicates their adaptation to the new world. Its powerful and efficient propaganda apparatus ("information & entertainment") presents the United States' two-headed, single-party political regime based on the money aristocracy as a democracy


Debsaredead , Nov 5 2020 0:36 utc | 266

Vote fraud happens at state level by state politicians purging voter lists (Ga) sending out incorrect ballots (Ca) or intimidating potential voters by sending out threatening or false information about voting procedures (Wi).
And of course that doesn't include the scam guaranteed by SCOTUS in Florida 2000 where the State secretary of state can just decide to order a halt to counting. Several million votes every prez beauty contest never get counted.
Plus the old trick of only have one election station in areas that contain hundreds of thousands sometimes millions of poor people.
Dems purge black voters too, apparently because they are concerned about the chance of a 'black party' being formed.

arby , Nov 5 2020 0:38 utc | 267

James
That article by Murray was very good but I give an honourable mention to his paragraph on the Jihadis.

"I pause to note that the terrorist in Vienna had attempted to go as a jihadist to Syria and fight against Assad. If he had not been prevented from doing that, he would have been financed by the Saudis, fed and clothed by the Turks, armed by the CIA, trained by the SAS and given air support by the Israelis. He might even have got to be a TV star posing in a White Helmet, or employment artfully placing chlorine bottles on beds for pictures by Bellingcat. Unfortunately, having been prevented from joining the western sponsored insurgency, he ended up killing Austrians instead of Syrians and now is a "terrorist", whereas jihadist killers of Syrians are "heroes". A strange world. The Manchester Arena bomber was of course physically brought in to the UK by the British military after fighting for "our side" in Libya. You do indeed reap what you sow."

uncle tungsten , Nov 5 2020 0:42 utc | 268

vinnieoh #249

Thank you for your post. I am with you on the diabolical fraud that is the Diebold machines and have been aware of their disgraceful product for many years. There can be no integrity or trust in any process or machine that is audited behind closed doors. It is simply a fraud and the practice is nothing other than a slap in the face to any decent person.

Your experience and expression of despair is why I contend that the USAi is in a pre-revolutionary condition. Greg Palast confirms all that you say and more and thankfully has been doing so for many years.

If the Demonazis do anything about 'reforming' the electoral system that should immediately ring alarms.

Glad to hear you passed through the West Point system with integrity intact. I am sure many did or found their way back to integrity. I never cease to be amazed at the all enveloping embrace of the military in US affairs both political and civil. THAT has to be broken.

gm , Nov 5 2020 1:10 utc | 273

I guess people are referring to these two graphs. (Disclaimer: I have no idea where these graphs originate from, whether they have been tampered with, whether they show correct information, etc.)"

-Posted by: S | Nov 4 2020 23:17 utc | 251

The sources printed(faintly) on the bottom of that that second (Wisconsin) are "FiveThirtyEight" and "ABC News"

This story shows that same Wisconsin graph with the 4am 100K Biden bump:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/seven-milwaukee-wards-report-presidential-votes-registered-voters-state-voter-turnout-nearly-90-virtually-impossible/

The graph was sourced from a twitter post by a Derek Duck:

I mean LOOK at this graph for Wisconsin

I'll zoom in just so you can see the part where Biden votes came out of NOWHERE pic.twitter.com/MPVxTWxjcZ

-- Derek Duck (@duckdiver19) November 4, 2020

Interestingly Twitter has blocked Derek Duck's twitter post.

Twitter also blocked DC Corruption's post on same subject/same GP article:

DC Corruption
@CorruptionDC
This is literally 5+ standard deviations from the mean. That actually = statistically practically impossible https://twitter.com/nobbins2001/status/1324078983923658752
4:02 PM · Nov 4, 2020
4.5K
2K people are Tweeting about this

If Twitter is blocking it, tells me it is probably true, and hurts Biden...


Peter AU1 , Nov 5 2020 2:01 utc | 280

yankistan having a full on color revolution.

"(Reuters) - An Australian bookmaker said on Thursday it has paid out A$23 million ($16.5 million) to people that had bet on Joe Biden becoming the next U.S. president though the official result is still to be determined"
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-australia/australian-bookmaker-pays-out-17-million-on-biden-victory-ahead-of-official-result-idUSKBN27L05L?il=0


Why would they be paying out before official results are in? Perception management? 17 million is chicken shit percentage of the billions yanks spend on crowning their new kings.
When Trump calls on the militias will be time for popcorn. Hopefully the yankistan arseholes will end up nuking themselves.

Richard Steven Hack , Nov 5 2020 2:07 utc | 281

Posted by: gm | Nov 5 2020 1:50 utc | 279 a Dem-leaning polling web site run by Nate Silver and owned by ABC (Disney) News?

So what? We're not talking about polls. We're talking about results - on a graph with no provided source data and even much of a legend. I mean, seriously? What exactly is the point that the graph *proves*? All it shows is someone's notion of the results at a given time - with *no* context as to which places have reported, which have not reported, what was the breakdown by county, etc., etc.

It's literally meaningless. Don't bother with the ad hominem, it's irrelevant to the point.

ALL: Just watched the Jimmy Dore interview with Greg Palast. Everyone needs to watch it. Seriously. It will blow your mind. Compared to these stupid graphs, it's like a nuclear bomb compared to a match.

Perimetr , Nov 5 2020 2:14 utc | 283

A Stolen Election?

I agree with PCR

Piero Colombo , Nov 5 2020 2:47 utc | 291

Can someone explain why all the excitement? Nothing is happening. Nothing.
Slightly more CIA and war-peddler support for the war party with the gangster boss clinically demented to the point of boasting on TV of successfully blackmailing his own puppet installed by a US-Zionist putsch. Slightly more bloodsucker support for the showman. It's a wash any way you slice it. Why isn't everybody in bed with a good book? I'm not only addressing the likes of Circe and Jimmy: where is the fun in watching this?

_K_C_ , Nov 5 2020 3:26 utc | 297

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 5 2020 2:14 utc | 283

I generally appreciate and agree with PCR on many issues, but the logic in that piece is pretty gnarly. This is where he lost me:

It really makes no sense for people in Michigan, who have severely suffered from the American Establishment's offshoring of their manufacturing jobs to Asia, thereby destroying the economic wellbeing of people in Michigan, to prefer Biden, the Establishment's candidate over Trump, their champion. I wondered if this was yet another example of dumbshit insouciant Americans being unable to act in their own interest. But I dismissed this thought and looked for other explanations.

What I found was astonishing. During the early hours of November 4 in both Wisconsin and Michigan there was a sudden vertical upward adjustment to Democrat votes, and every one of the approximately 150,000 newly found votes was for Biden. This sudden ballot dump accounts for the lost of Trump's lead in Michigan and Wisconsin: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61890

It is possible that shifts of vote counters in the two states finished their shifts and went home, and that when the new shifts arrived they found that Biden had jumped even or ahead in Michigan and Wisconsin. This would be plausible except that all the vertical shift in votes were for Biden. Not a single vote in the suddenly changed situation was for Trump. How likely is this?

So he's basing the entire piece on a typo (and apparently I was not 100% correct and 538 DID generate a graphic that was created using DecisionDeskHQ mistaken numbers). For a discussion of that, see all the back and forth between RSH and gm as well as my posts about it in this thread. An election data aggregator that feeds the AP (and apparently 538 in some fashion) its numbers screwed up and the erroneous graphic was Tweeted out by a Republican in Texas who later deleted the Tweet. Guess 538 picked up the wrong version and created their own graphic.

Mackowiak acknowledged the posts were inaccurate. He has since deleted the tweet, explaining, "I have now learned the MI update referenced was a typo in one county."

It was big nothing burger from the very beginning and PCR is starting from a completely incorrect premise. (and now I see that others also used the 538 version). Also, buried in PCR's source link is the exact same deleted Tweet that I've been talking about. Someone named Derek Duck started re-tweeting it (the 538 version) AFTER the first guy deleted his (which I think was based on the AP's version but not sure) and apparently insisted on doing so despite the fact that it had been debunked (his Twitter account is now suspended - big surprise). BUT the link to the article that PCR based his own on is still there, and it has been [UPDATED] to include the quoted text I just pasted. So I wonder why PCR hasn't [UPDATED] his own story yet.....

The other thing about that article is his seeming endorsement of Trump as someone who is actually going to bring manufacturing jobs back. He's no more likely to than Biden is.

[Oct 30, 2020] Is this what democracy looks like- Rich donors pack Biden's campaign chest to seduce poor spurned by Trump and both parties

Oct 27, 2020 | www.rt.com

Helen Buyniski is an American journalist and political commentator at RT. Follow her on Twitter @velocirapture23 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's campaign is using a vast reserve of donations from the usual plutocratic suspects to pry even deep-red states away from an incumbent who's done little to help the working class.

The Biden campaign broke all-time records for TV ad spending over the weekend, leveraging Wall Street donors' unprecedented largesse in its effort to woo ordinary Americans back into the establishment fold.

Given how Trump's record bristles with policies so 'pro-business' they can be seen as anti-working-class, it's a strategy just crazy enough to work. Voters need only be reminded how the incumbent cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations while printing trillions of dollars to be diverted directly into the pockets of big banks and big companies during the pandemic. The media is encouraged to do its part by hyping up Trump's " divisiveness. "

ALSO ON RT.COM Woman says her DYING pro-Trump dad voted for Biden because 'it matters to his girls,' but not everybody feels the inspiration

The same corporate-friendly policies that alienated many in Trump's 2016 base have somehow failed to keep the .01 percent in the Republican camp, and Wall Street has poured $50 million into the Biden campaign, CNBC reported on Monday, holding up former Goldman Sachs president Harvey Schwartz as a typical contributor. Schwartz made his largest-ever political donation earlier this month to the Biden Action Fund, a $100,000 gift that was also one of the biggest donations the Fund received during that period.

And it's not just Wall Street - aside from hardcore Republican Zionists like casino mogul Sheldon Adelson and vulture capitalist Paul Singer, the US oligarchy is firmly and vocally in the Biden camp. Former New York City Republican-turned-Democrat mayor Mike Bloomberg announced a $15 million ad buy in Texas and Ohio on Monday, two states where Trump won by a healthy margin in 2016 but where the failed presidential candidate apparently smells weakness. That hefty sum is in addition to over $100 million Bloomberg spent in the critical swing state of Florida, where he also raised millions of dollars to pay off the court fees of black and Hispanic ex-cons - whose votes the businessman believes will reliably land in the Biden camp, never mind the candidate's history of supporting the kind of laws that probably landed them in prison in the first place.

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Overwhelming support for Biden among the ruling class is also amplified by wealthy celebrities. From Cher's cringe-inducing ditty " Happiness is just a thing called Joe ," recently performed at a Biden benefit concert, to Taylor Swift's insistence that 2020's election is " more important than I could even possibly say ," to questionable statements from one-time anti-establishment stalwarts like Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys, Americans are being cajoled, shamed, and pushed into the voting booth to deliver their support to candidates who have never cared less about average Americans.

Working class people whose lives have been torn asunder by the coronavirus shutdowns Biden has essentially pledged to expand aren't left with many options. While Trump resisted calls to lock down the nation, his self-presentation as an anti-establishment maverick contrasts with four years spent racking up debt and bombing Middle Eastern civilians. Recent polls suggest that even the " poor and uneducated " - groups whose support for Trump has long been the butt of liberal jokes - are defecting.

While a New York Times analysis on Sunday showed Trump continuing to outperform Biden in low-income areas and Biden's support remains concentrated in traditional liberal bastions on the East and West Coasts, it showed middle-class suburban voters bailing out of the " Trump train " in droves. Meanwhile, wealthy and college-educated voters have coalesced around Biden more firmly than in the past, with even big-money establishment Republican types drawn to Biden's promise of a return to the Obama-era status quo.

Where does that leave the poor, or those who lost their middle-class status in the last crash? Trump's detractors have pointed out the irony of the man surrounded by gold presenting himself as the people's champion, and the Biden campaign is spending relentlessly to poach wavering Trump supporters, with ads and opinion pieces featuring self- described " Christian Republicans " embracing the Democrat.

ALSO ON RT.COM Slavoj Zizek: Biden's just Trump with a human face, and the two of them share the same enemy

Short of voting for a third party - described by the media establishment as something akin to a war crime, especially for swing state residents - the working class is caught in an unenviable bind. More than a few must be wondering if voting is merely a long con aimed at drafting Americans into participating in their own oppression. Driving through rural western Pennsylvania, a state polls insist Biden has bagged, a bumper crop of Trump signs - more than a few of them handmade - has blossomed, suggesting the small farmers of the Rust Belt really are expending their meager resources to re-elect the man with the gold-plated bathroom . But if this is, indeed, what democracy looks like, it's no wonder the system is losing support among the younger generation.

If you like this story, share it with a friend! Jojo jordan 1 day ago Sorry Helen but you lost me where you claimed Trump didn't help the working class. Also, the Big companies got rich during the pandemic due to Democrat Governors and Mayors shutdowns of small businesses. Biden is THE definition of swamp creature. Trump is for the people. He's a realist. Reply 10 2 Zogg Jojo jordan 1 day ago Nope, Trump heavily damaged the working class when signed the law having the corporate taxes halved and not halving the working class taxes. tracie72 1 day ago "It's one big party, we aren't invited." George Carlin J_P_Franklin 1 day ago "wondering if voting is merely a long con aimed at drafting Americans into participating in their own oppression" Democracy is the problem. "Voting only encourages them." - Gore Vidal Juan_More J_P_Franklin 1 day ago Actually it is the reverse. The more the people vote the more it scares the politicians. It is usually non-aligned voters that make up the vast majority of those who do not vote. That way the parties count on the party faithful to get out and vote. With all those independent voters voting it makes those sure thing seats a lot less sure. Why are you trying to discourage people from voting. From the number of comments like yours I've seen in social media there would appear to be move to suppress people from voting. Lastly everyone should keep in mind, there may not be anything worth voting for but there is always something to vote against.

[Oct 30, 2020] Billionaires want not only more money, but more power. In their minds, power is essentially infinite.

Notable quotes:
"... It is indeed more likely that an authoritarian regime can last longer than the current one, and they can more easily push the things they want this way. "Democracy" and "free speech" served their purpose for a time, now it's time to try something else. ..."
Oct 30, 2020 | www.unz.com

animalogic , says: October 28, 2020 at 8:23 am GMT

@romanempire ionaires.
"How to consume the surplus capital? " I suspect you maybe confusing money/debt with capital ["-The latter [capital] is so cheap these days it costs nothing to a qualified borrower. "] which is the capacity to use labour productively, usually combination with technology.
"surplus" capital then is non/under utilised factories etc & labour.
As to the vast inflation of debt/money .as Dr Hudson says, debts that can't be paid, won't be paid. The easiest way to rid the world of the trillions that elites have, is to liquidate the elites themselves. Either that, or like Samson, pull the whole shithouse down around you .
Dumbo , says: October 28, 2020 at 11:20 am GMT
@romanempire e. the economy/dollar will collapse), or they realize that the global democratic neo-liberal order is on its last legs, and can't last, so they are anticipating things.

It is indeed more likely that an authoritarian regime can last longer than the current one, and they can more easily push the things they want this way. "Democracy" and "free speech" served their purpose for a time, now it's time to try something else.

The final push will be when they make people complete slaves by embedding our bodies with technology (i.e. Musk's project for a microchip in the brain, among other things). The Unabomber wrote about that in his Manifesto.

Stick , says: October 28, 2020 at 2:36 pm GMT
@animalogic

They, like all aristocrats, want to be Too Big To Fail. This is what drives all the New World Order Wankers.

[Oct 28, 2020] Wall Street Banks, And Their Employees, Now Officially Lean Democrat

Highly recommended!
They understand who will serve them better... After all they are dependent on the continuation of neoliberal globalization.
Oct 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

You'd think that voting Republican would be an easy decision if you work on Wall Street, especially given the lower taxes and the removal of burdensome regulations. But Democrats have entangled themselves so deeply in the web of Wall Street, that the industry is now leaning to the left, according to a new report from Reuters .

The Center for Responsive Politics took a look at how the industry, and its employees, break down for the 2020 election cycle.

It has been obvious that Democratic candidate Joe Biden has been outpacing President Trump when it comes to fundraising, and this is also true of "winning cash from the banking industry," Reuters notes.

Biden's campaign has been the beneficiary of $3 million from commercial banks, compared to the $1.4 million Trump has raised. This is a far skew from 2012, where Mitt Romney was able to raise $5.5 million from commercial banks, while Barack Obama only raised $2 million. In 2012, Wall Street banks were among the top five contributors to Romney' campaign.

In 2020, campaign contributions to congressional races from Wall Street banks are about even. Republicans have raised $14 million while Democrats have brought in $13.6 million. About four years ago, Republicans pulled in $18.9 million, which was about twice as much as the Democrats raised. In 2012, Republicans raised about 61% of total bank donations.

Interestingly enough, when Biden and Trump are removed from the equation, the highest recipient from Wall Street is none other than Bernie Sanders, who has raised $831,096. Sanders often tops contributions in many industries due to his grassroots following.

When you remove the employees from the equation and only look at how the bank's political arms donate, the picture turns more Republican-friendly.

House of Representatives lawmaker Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri, one of the senior Republicans on the House Financial Services Committee, which is key for the banking industry, tops the list, hauling in $226,000. Next up is Patrick McHenry of North Carolina, the top Republican on that panel, with $185,500 in cash from bank political committees.

The top 20 recipients of bank political funds comprise 14 Republicans and six Democrats. Representative Gregory Meeks of New York, a senior member of the House banking panel, received the most among Democrats, with $140,000.

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The shift in data shows that while Wall Street's top brass may still understand the value of Republican leadership, bank employees themselves may overwhelmingly favor progressives.

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tonye , 3 hours ago

It's obvious. Wall Street is part of the Deep State...

Le SoJ16 , 3 hours ago

How can you hate capitalism and work for a Wall Street bank?

tonye , 3 hours ago

Because Wall Street is no longer capitalist.

Main Street is capitalist, they create the GNP.

Wall Street is a casino owned by globalists and bankers. They don't create much anymore.

Macho Latte , 2 hours ago

It has nothing to do with ideology. The Biden is FOR SALE!

Any questions?

Lord Raglan , 2 hours ago

It is because the majority of Wall Street are Jewish and **** overwhelmingly support Democrats.

David Horowitz has said that 80% of the donations to the Democrat Party come from ****.

KashNCarry , 2 hours ago

What a bunch of ****. Wall St. elites are in it up to their necks casting their lot with the globalists who want total control NOW. Trump is the only thing in their way....

artvandalai , 3 hours ago

Wall street people don't know much about the real economy. They also know little, nor do they care about, the real problems faced by business people who have to work everyday to overcome the policies put in place by liberals.

They do understand finance however. But all that requires is the ability to push paper around all day.

But let them vote for the Libotards and have them watch Elizabeth Warren take charge of the US Senate Financial Institutions and Consumer Protection Committee. They'll be jumping out of windows.

FauxReal , 3 hours ago

Wall Street favors free money?

sun tzu , 1 hour ago

Wall Street wants bailouts. 0bozo gave them a yuge bailout

American2 , 2 hours ago

Based on the massively coordinated MSM suppression of the Biden corruption scandal, now I know why these folks back Biden.

CosmoJoe , 2 hours ago

Democrats as the party of the big banks,

bgundr , 2 hours ago

Of course banksters favor policies that make the average person a slave with less agency

Homie , 2 hours ago

Especially if you like the endless bailouts, give-aways, and freedom from those pesky rules limiting the Squid's diet

You'd think that voting Republican would be an easy decision if you work on Wall Street, especially given the lower taxes and the removal of burdensome regulations.

mtl4 , 2 hours ago

The shift in data shows that while Wall Street's top brass may still understand the value of Republican leadership, bank employees themselves may overwhelmingly favor progressives.

The banks are big on corruption and that's one poll the Dems are definitely leading by a longshot.......thick as thieves.

tunetopper , 2 hours ago

Wall St youngsters dont realize their job is to whore themselves out as much as possible to the few remaining classes of folk they dont already have accounts with. The few Millennials and Gen Xers that have enough capital saved up are their target market. Ever since the take-down of Bear Stearns and Lehman, and the exit of many others from their Private Client Groups- the Whorewolves of Wall St are very busy pretending to be Progs and Libs.

And like this post says: " who really cares, they all live in NY, NJ and CT which are guaranteed Dem states anyway"

So in essence- they have nothing to lose while pretending to be a Prog/Lib. in order to ge the clients money.

radar99 , 36 minutes ago

I arrived to wall st in 2010. My female boss at a large investment bank hated me from the moment I criticized Obama. I was and still am absolutely amazed you can work on wall st and be a democrat

moneybots , 59 minutes ago

"The shift in data shows that while Wall Street's top brass may still understand the value of Republican leadership, bank employees themselves may overwhelmingly favor progressives."

So 50 Cent alone went Trump after finding out NYC's top tax rate would be 62% under Biden?

Flynt2142ahh , 1 hour ago

also known as MBNA Joe Biden friends, you mean the privatize profits but liberalize losses crowd that always looks for gubment money to bail out failures - Shocking !

invention13 , 1 hour ago

Wall St. just knows Biden is someone you can do business with.

Loser Face , 1 hour ago

Wall Street leans towards anyone who passes laws that benefit Wall Street.

Obamaroid Ointment , 1 hour ago

The Wally Street crowd has always been a bunch Globalist Mercedes Marxists and Limousine Liberals, this article is ancient history.

Sound of the Suburbs , 2 hours ago

US politicians haven't got a clue what's really going on and got duped by the banker's shell game.

When you don't know what real wealth creation is, or how banks work, you fall for the banker's shell game.

Bankers make the most money when they are driving your economy towards a financial crisis.

On a BBC documentary, comparing 1929 to 2008, it said the last time US bankers made as much money as they did before 2008 was in the 1920s.

Bankers make the most money when they are driving your economy into a financial crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAStZJCKmbU&list=PLmtuEaMvhDZZQLxg24CAiFgZYldtoCR-R&index=6

At 18 mins.

The bankers loaded the US economy up with their debt products until they got financial crises in 1929 and 2008.

As you head towards the financial crisis, the economy booms due to the money creation of bank loans.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf

The financial crisis appears to come out of a clear blue sky when you use an economics that doesn't consider debt, like neoclassical economics.

That's what the banker's shell game does to your economy.

Bankers are playing a shell game, which you can't see if you don't know how banks actually work like today's policymakers.

The real estate shell game.

Watch this video of the S&L crisis to refresh your memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwFXvc1rJDw

They were just cutting their teeth messing about transferring financial assets around in those days.

It's all pretty straight forward.

Bank loans create money out of nothing.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf

Money and debt come into existence together and disappear together like matter and anti-matter.

It's a shell game; you have to keep your eye on the money and the debt.

The speculators pocket the money, and the debt builds up in the S&Ls until the ponzi scheme collapses.

US taxpayers then bail out the bust S&Ls.

The shell game only works when no when is looking at the debt building up in the financial system like the UK from 1980 – 2008.

https://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/uploads/monthly_2018_02/Screen-Shot-2017-04-21-at-13_53_09.png.e32e8fee4ffd68b566ed5235dc1266c2.png

Money and debt come into existence together and disappear together like matter and anti-matter.

The money flows into the economy making it boom.

The debt builds up in the financial system leading to a financial crisis.

Banks – What is the idea?

The idea is that banks lend into business and industry to increase the productive capacity of the economy.

Business and industry don't have to wait until they have the money to expand. They can borrow the money and use it to expand today, and then pay that money back in the future.

The economy can then grow more rapidly than it would without banks.

Debt grows with GDP and there are no problems.

The banks create money and use it to create real wealth.

Caliphate Connie and the Headbangers , 2 hours ago

https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs Democrat President, Republican Senate, Democratic House equals Deflation

medium giraffe , 3 hours ago

The banks and corporations of America have been welfare queens since 2008. Regardless of who wins, they will be the beneficiaries of moar US-style corporate welfare socialism.

Victory_Rossi , 3 hours ago

Wall Street loves globalism and hates the entire ethos of "America First". They're people with dodgy loyalties and grand self-interests.

FreemonSandlewould , 3 hours ago

What a surprise. The Banking Cartel faction of the Jish Control Grid sent Trotsky and company to Russia to implement the Bolshevik revolution. Should I be surprised they lean left?

Well I guess not. But they are at base amoral - that is to say with out moral philosophy. Their real motto is "Whatever gets the job done".

I know you human fungus in Wall St banks read Zh.

[Aug 23, 2020] Unconstrained Economic-Elite Domination under neoliberalism

Aug 23, 2020 | www.unz.com

james charles , says: Next New Comment August 23, 2020 at 11:12 am GMT

Hands up those who think the election will only have a 'marginal' effect?

"Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens

Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics -- which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism -- offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented. A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism. "

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

[Aug 19, 2020] People vs money: oligarchy almost always wins

Notable quotes:
"... Are you arguing that sociopaths have an inalienable right to hold office, even though they will inevitably use that office to aggrandize themselves at the expense of everyone else, and could spark a general war just for their own enjoyment and to gather yet more power to themselves? ..."
"... How do people who don't share your beliefs get represented if you rig the system to exclude them? People unlike you are sociopaths? It isn't even tempting. Your cost benefit study benefits you. The world is destabilized if your guys don't get in? No surprise. ..."
"... The under-employment rate is also very informative. People working less hours or in lower positions than their investment in education should have returned to them. They are working, but not enough to be able to independently sustain themselves, which makes them insecure in variety of ways. ..."
"... It all depends on what the penalties are. Confiscation of hidden assets would chill that behavior, strike one. Loss of the privilege to conduct business with federal and state entities would also chill such behavior, strike two. Finally, for persistent violations of the cap, loss of citizenship and expulsion form the country, three strikes and you are literally out, would be the ultimate penalty. ..."
"... The United States is actually both a federation (hardly unique by the way) and a representative democracy. Whether you call them members of Parliament or members of Congress, their representatives are elected by the people. ..."
Jan 11, 2020 | www.theguardian.com

apacheman -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 23:32

Excuse me?

Huge numbers of people who disagree with me and don't share my particular beliefs are not sociopaths, nothing would stop them from running or holding office, and I've no problem with that.

Are you arguing that sociopaths have an inalienable right to hold office, even though they will inevitably use that office to aggrandize themselves at the expense of everyone else, and could spark a general war just for their own enjoyment and to gather yet more power to themselves?

THAT I'm not ok with, are you?

DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> apacheman , 7 Jul 2018 21:12
How do people who don't share your beliefs get represented if you rig the system to exclude them? People unlike you are sociopaths? It isn't even tempting. Your cost benefit study benefits you. The world is destabilized if your guys don't get in? No surprise.
HauptmannGurski -> Aseoria , 7 Jul 2018 20:26
I know, and Bush I was head of the CIA. Strange that one matters and the other does not.
Sisyphus2 -> Byron Delaney , 7 Jul 2018 20:05
Love this line: "the gig economy combined with record debt and astronomically high rent prices cancel out any potential economic stability for millions of people."

The under-employment rate is also very informative. People working less hours or in lower positions than their investment in education should have returned to them. They are working, but not enough to be able to independently sustain themselves, which makes them insecure in variety of ways.

Aseoria -> ildfluer , 7 Jul 2018 19:52
Do you think the interpreters might turn out to be agents, or perhaps even assassins, from other governments? Or maybe everybody will be knocked out with fentanyl gas at dinner. In the dining room.
Aseoria -> consumerx , 7 Jul 2018 19:47
Typical Good-Cop Bad-Cop from here in the vaunted "Two-Party" system of the USA gov
Janaka77 -> petersview , 7 Jul 2018 19:05
I like the way the Republic of Ireland puts strict restrictions on political spending for their elections - including their presidential elections.
apacheman -> memo10 , 7 Jul 2018 19:02
1. It all depends on what the penalties are. Confiscation of hidden assets would chill that behavior, strike one. Loss of the privilege to conduct business with federal and state entities would also chill such behavior, strike two. Finally, for persistent violations of the cap, loss of citizenship and expulsion form the country, three strikes and you are literally out, would be the ultimate penalty.

The alternative, continuing to allow unlimited wealth accumulation will ultimately destroy democracy and end in a dictatorship nearly impossible to remove without massive casualties. Is that preferable to trying to control the behavior of wealth addicts? Make no mistake: billionaires are addicts, their uncontrollable addiction to more is an extreme form of hoarding dysfunction, one that, like all uncontrolled addictions, has had disastrous consequences for everyone but them.

3. Fewer Representatives means you are concentrating power rather than dispersing it. More means smaller districts, which in turn means more accountability, not less. As it stands now, Congresscritters can safely ignore the wishes of the public, because when someone "represents" nearly a million citizens, it means they actually represent only themselves. If taken in conjunction with item #2, more citizens would be invested in the political process and far more likely to pay attention.

4. The Hare test is a standard written exam that is difficult to cheat. Getting caught at cheating or attempting to cheat would mark one automatically as a sociopath. The latest studies of brain structures show that sociopaths have physically different brains, and those physical differences are detectable. Brain activity as shown by fMRI also clearly marks a sociopath from a normal, since while they can fake emotional responses very well, their brain activity shows their true lack of response to emotionally charged images, words, etc. Using a three-layer test, written>fMRI>genetic should be robust enough to correctly identify most. The stakes are too huge to risk a set of sociopaths and their lackeys control of the machinery of government. The genetic test is the most likely to give problematic results, but if the written is failed, the fMRI would then be done to confirm or reject the written results, while the genetics would be a supplementary confirmation. Widespread genetic testing of politicians and would-bes would undoubtedly advance research and understanding dramatically.

When you do even a casual cost-benefit study, the answer is clear: test them. Ask yourself: is the thwarting of an individual's potential career in politics really that great a cost compared to preventing unknowingly electing a sociopath who could destabilize the entire world?

Janaka77 -> scotti dodson , 7 Jul 2018 18:55

Another big difference of course is a little thing called the law.

Are you under the impression the British don't have rule of law? Their elected representatives make their laws, not their ceremonial royal family. Their royal family's job is to abide by the same laws as every other UK citizen, stay out of politics and promote British tourism and gossip magazines.

Janaka77 -> Ben Groetsch , 7 Jul 2018 18:15

The United States is actually a federal republic, not a democracy.

The United States is actually both a federation (hardly unique by the way) and a representative democracy. Whether you call them members of Parliament or members of Congress, their representatives are elected by the people.

WillisFitnurbut -> Byron Delaney , 7 Jul 2018 17:57

If we move the cheap manufacturing to the US, and wages are lower due to a depression, people will take the jobs, and the job numbers will improve. And China will be toast.


We will never beat China at manufacturing cheap and efficient products using human labor. Robotic labor maybe, but that might not happen for a decade or more at least--if they or another country doesn't beat us to retooling our factories.
Labor and manufacturing will never return in the US--unless we have another world war we win, in which all global production is again concentrated in the US because the rest of the worlds factories are bombed to rubble. Besides, they have the most central location for manufacturing in the world and a cheap source of endless labor.

What they don't have is innovation, tech and freedom to try products out on a free market. We are squandering those advantages in the US when we cut education and limit college education to the masses.

memo10 -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 17:48

The system is not crooked,

Are Americans the most immoral people on earth? I don't think so. Do we have the strictest code of laws on earth? I don't think so either. Yet we have the highest incarceration rate on earth. Higher than authoritarian countries like China & Russia.

This alone should tell you something is wrong with our system. Never mind the stats about differing average sentences depending on race & wealth.

WillisFitnurbut -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 17:42
Doubt implies a reason behind the wrong, where uncertainty implies an unknowing trait--a mystery behind the wrong.

The right, what with all its fake news scams, deep state BS and witch hunt propaganda, is uncertainty at best, a mystery of sorts--it provides us with a conspiracy that can neither be proved or unproven--an enigma.

Doubt, about if Russia meddled in the US election in collusion with the president or at the least his advisors, surely implies something is wrong, especially in the face of criminal charges, doubt is inherent and well intentioned, but not always true and can be proven false in the face of doubt.

Byron Delaney -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 17:00
At one time the US was agrarian and one could subsist via bartering. Consider reliance on for-profit healthcare, transportation systems, debt, credit cards, landlords, grocery stores, and the lack of any ability to subsist without statewide and nationwide infrastructure. Right now, people in the US already die prematurely if they can't afford healthcare. Many are homeless. And this is when things are better than ever? What will happen here is what happened in Europe during WWII. People will suffer, and they will be forced to adopt socialist practices (like the EU does today). People in Europe really did starve to death, and people in India, Africa, and other countries are starving and dying today. China doles out food rations because they practice communism. That's why they have cheap, efficient labor that serves to manufacture products for US consumers. Communism and socialism help American corporations big time.
DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> kmacafee , 7 Jul 2018 16:51
Citizens United is a First Amendment decision. Which part of the First Amendment do you want moot? What gives any government the right to decide which assemblies of citizens have no free speech rights?
DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> WillisFitnurbut , 7 Jul 2018 16:47
Doubt is everybody's political currency.
DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> Byron Delaney , 7 Jul 2018 16:46
You are aware, I imagine, that the US can adjust its money supply to adapt to circumstances? We can feed ourselves. We have our own power sources. We can improvise, adapt, and overcome. Prices go up and down. No big deal. Scaring people for political gain doesn't have the clout it onvce did.
DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> tjt77 , 7 Jul 2018 16:40
Are you opposed to people deciding who moves across their nation's borders?
DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> Elephantmoth , 7 Jul 2018 16:38
Open Secrets Top Donors, Organizations.
DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> memo10 , 7 Jul 2018 16:35
Too many virtue signalers seem to think that only the innocent are ever convicted.
The system is not crooked, but if you can set up a better one that doesn't bankrupt every community, have at it.
DeltaFoxWhiskyMike -> WillisFitnurbut , 7 Jul 2018 16:29
You really, really, really like screaming racist, don't you? And slide in a Godwin. Wow. The concept that black pastors would be negatively impacted by financial attacks on their churches never ever occurred to you, did it? You get off on pretending to care about people that you have no direct, routine connection to. How virtuous of you. Wouldn't deliberately harming black churches make you the racist storm trooper?
Byron Delaney -> WillisFitnurbut , 7 Jul 2018 16:08
Violence will break out when credit cards stop working. Can't even imagine what will happen if people are starving. No problem in a socialistic country like Finland, but a big problem here. My guess is that Trump knows the economy is hanging by a thread, so needs to create an alternate reason (trade wars). Or he figures he might as well have a trade war if it's all going to pieces anyway. Of course China manufactures just about everything for the US. If we move the cheap manufacturing to the US, and wages are lower due to a depression, people will take the jobs, and the job numbers will improve. And China will be toast.
WillisFitnurbut -> Byron Delaney , 7 Jul 2018 15:49
Don't forget as the Trump trade war heats up and China decides to sell off US bonds en-masse (they own 1.17 trillion in US debt). That's gonna put a hurt on the already low US dollar and could send inflation soaring. China could also devalue its currency and increase the trade deficit. Combine those with all the things you've pointed out and you've got financial troubles the likes of which no large government has ever dealt with in human history.
Starving people--China can handle in droves; not so much the US. We're talking nasty violence if that kinda stuff happens here.
Melty Clock -> happylittledebunkera , 7 Jul 2018 15:43
True, but the POTUS is a head of state and the PM is not, so there's a limit to how far we should take comparisons.
WillisFitnurbut , 7 Jul 2018 15:05
Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.
Byron Delaney , 7 Jul 2018 15:02
Occupy Wall Street began due to income inequality when the worst effects of the Great Recession were being felt by the population. Wealth inequality has only increased since then.


Right now, the population is held at bay because the media and politicians claim that the economy is so incredibly hot it's overheating. But we know that's a lie. For one, the gig economy combined with record debt and astronomically high rent prices cancel out any potential economic stability for millions of people. This year, 401(k) plans have returned almost nothing (or are going negative). This was also the case in 2016. Savings accounts have returned almost nothing for the last decade (they should be providing approximately 5% interest).

The worker participation rate today is 3.2% below what it was in 2008 (during the Great Recession). The US population, meanwhile, has increased by approximately 24,321,000. That's a 7.68% increase. The labor force has increased by 5% during this time (unemployment rate was relatively similar, 5.6% vs 4%). From June 2008 to June 2018, the labor force increased by approximately 8 million. However, if the worker participation rate was the same now as it was then, there would be approximately 8 million more people in the labor force. If you add 8 million people to the current number of people who are counted as unemployed by the BLS, the unemployment rate is approximately 9%. This is about as high as the unemployment rate got during the depths of the Great Recession, right when Occupy Wall Street was born.

Now, OK, sure, the economy has REPLACED lost jobs, but it has not ADDED jobs for the last decade. The unemployment rate is false. It should be at least 8%. There's many millions of Americans who do not have steady, gainful employment - or any employment - and they are not counted.
The billionaires and their bought politicians are responsible for fixing this. They can fix it and should fix it. Otherwise, the economy and their profits are going to fall off a giant cliff any day now. The next recession has basically already begun, but it can still be alleviated. If things continue as they are, unemployment could be 16% by 2020, with the U6 measure approaching or exceeding 25%. If stocks drop enough, people may starve to death.

kmacafee , 7 Jul 2018 14:11
Who supported Citizen's United? All cons and republicans

Who supports campaign finance reform and legislation that would make Cititzen's United moot? Democrats and progressives

Really tired of the false equivalencies. Republicans are now the polar opposite of Democrats in policy and principles. Vote Blue this November and get rid of the republicans; every single one of them. It can be done if people get out and vote.

memo10 -> apacheman , 7 Jul 2018 14:10
1. Anything is possible but I don't think this is practical. The rich can just cheat on the definition of ownership, pass it around between family members, offshore it, sink it into their businesses in token ways, etc. When you try to take wealth (power) away from the most powerful people in the country they will start devoting SERIOUS resources to getting around it.

3. I'm not saying we need fewer people doing congress's job in total. But we should be electing fewer of them, and letting those fewer people do more hiring/delegating. The way things are now, most of the public only knows much about the president. Everyone else is mostly just a vote for a party. But if the country only voted for 50 Congressmen in total - or even fewer - then we would all have a more careful eye on them. We would know them better and see them more individually. They would have less pressure to toe the party line all the time.

4. As long as there's a written test then it will get cheated. Right now the testing is rarely given and the specific consequences don't determine powerful people's careers. Make it a widespread & important thing and people will learn to cheat it.
The genetic + fMRI research is interesting but the whole thing opens up serious cans of worms. We're talking about DQ'ing somebody from an important career based partially on the results of a genetic screening for a character trait. That's a dangerous business for our whole society to get into. Although I do realize the payoff for this specific instance would be very big.

apacheman -> memo10 , 7 Jul 2018 13:34
1. Why do you think that? Using teams of forensic accountants and outlawing secret accounts would go a long way towards increasing enforceability. But you are viewing it as a legal problem rather than a cultural problem. If an effective propaganda campaign aimed on one level at the public and another level at the billionaires, it could work. Many billionaires are already committed to returning their fortunes to the economy (mostly after they are dead, true). Convince a few and the rest will follow. Give them the lure of claiming the title of the richest who ever were and some would be eager for that place in history.

Anything can be done if the will is there.

2. Income taxes are just a portion of the federal revenues, ~47%. Corporate taxes, parkland fees, excise taxes, ~18% taken together and Social Security make up the rest. Revenues would increase as taxpayers topped off step amounts to keep control. The beauty of it is that Congress would see very clearly where the nation's priorities were. Any politician trying to raise fines so that they had more money under their control would soon find themselves out of office. Unpopular programs would have to be financed out of the 18%, and that would likely make them increase corporate taxes. But most importantly, it would cut the power of politicians and decrease the effectiveness of lobbyists.

3. Actually, we have too few, not too many. The work of governance suffers because there is too much to be done and too few to do it. Spreading the workload and assigning responsibility areas would increase efficiency. Most importantly though, it would break up the oligarchic duopoly that keeps a stranglehold on the nation's politics, and bring more third party candidates into office giving Congress a more diverse culture by adding viewpoints based on other things than business interests.

4. Actually, advances in fMRI equipment and procedures, along with genetics and written testing can prove beyond a reasonable doubt whether or not someone is a sociopath, do some research and you'l see it is true. False positives in any testing regime are always an issue, but tens of millions of workers submit to drug tests to qualify for their jobs, and their jobs don't usually run the risk of plunging the world into war, economic or environmental disasters. False positives are common in the workplace and cost many thousands their jobs.

And there's an easy way to prove you aren't really a sociopath: be honest, don't lie, and genuinely care about people...things sociopaths cannot do over time.

Seriously, it is a societal safety issue that demands to be done, protecting the few against false positives means opening the floodgates for the many sociopaths who seek power over others.

WillisFitnurbut -> ConBrio , 7 Jul 2018 13:25
Not just eliminate--alter and add to it, but since it takes 2/3 majority of the house and senate to amend the constitution--it's not an easy feat--that's why there has only been 17 amendments altogether and two of them are there to cancel each other out!
You see, the beauty behind the National Popular Vote Bill is that it's done on a state by state basis and will only work when the required 270 electoral votes are gained with the bill--this means all voters would have their votes tallied in a presidential election and it eliminates swing states with a winner takes all approach. The electoral college and state control of elections are preserved and every one is happy.
I feel like you've not read up on any of this even though I provide a link. 12 of these bills have been enacted into state law already, comprising of 172 electoral votes and 3,112 legislative sponsors. That's more than halfway there.
To continue to say that changing the way we vote by altering the EC is a fantasy is in itself a fantasy because obviously it is gaining traction across the country.
tjt77 -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 12:51
Which 'side' do you imagine I'm on Mike ? FYI.. Im not a member of any tribe especially regarding the republican or democrat parties... you may have noticed that as part of the progress towards a globalized economy, 'Money' now has open borders...but the restrictions of movement for people are growing as nationalism rises and wealth and the power it yields, becomes ever more concentrated in fewer hands...this is a dangerous precedent and history repeats if lessons of the past are not learned.
I can well recall when humanity and the ability of the individual to attain freedom and liberty based upon the merit of the individual was once celebrated.
What really irks me and causes me to voice my opinion on this forum, ( thank you Guardian for your continued efforts at informing us all and especially for promoting participation) is how easily people are duped .. when 'others' can easily see that they are being lied to. My parents fought for freedom and liberty against vicious tyranny in Europe and paid a HUGE price..by the time the scales had tipped the balance towards fascism, it was far too late for anything other than all out war... the fact that they survived the required sacrifice to pitch in to protect democracy, and the freedom and liberty which comes with it, still seems miraculous..
Gary Daily , 7 Jul 2018 12:20
Billionaires on the left should put some of that money into paying for and distributing subscriptions to newspapers and magazines which live up to the standards of professional journalism. These papers should be made available, free, at high schools, colleges, libraries, and commercial centers of loitering and "neighborly" discussions. May I suggest the NYT, WP, The Guardian, and The Economist.
ConBrio -> WillisFitnurbut , 7 Jul 2018 12:16
The "fact" that there have been 700 attempts to eliminate it should tell you that in all likelihood the The Electoral College will continue.

Whether or not a group of states can effectively circumvent the Constitution is an open question.

aquacalc -> ghstwrtrx7 , 7 Jul 2018 12:01
"What the country sorely needs is a new constitution."

No thanks! The Founders were quite a bit more intelligent than the current national 'brain trust' -- on the both sides of the Aisle -- that would be charged with writing a new Constitution.

memo10 -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 11:48

A defense attorney once told me that his job was one of the toughest out there because an astonishing percentage of defendants are guilty as charged.

That's true. But it doesn't excuse the crooked system whatsoever. It doesn't make the innocent poor people any less innocent.

Dorthy Boatman -> scotti dodson , 7 Jul 2018 11:36
Since when have politicians and rich people ever followed the law? And what recourse would that be exactly?
WillisFitnurbut -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 11:17
I like how you immediately expose your racism, right out of the gate. Haven't you got a storm trooper meeting to head out to soon?
Elephantmoth -> DeltaFoxWhiskyMike , 7 Jul 2018 11:14
Sorry I forgot the link: http://www.http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/318177-lobbyings-top-50-whos-spending-big
Sisyphus2 -> NYbill13 , 7 Jul 2018 10:41
Back to the days of Dickens, workhouses, indentured slaves, etc.

[Aug 19, 2020] People who strive for "democracy" have two choice and that most common is "managed democracy" on behalf of neoliberal financial oligarchy, which strip mining your "resources"

Dec 13, 2019 | www.unz.com

G. Poulin , says: December 11, 2019 at 9:37 pm GMT

So if propaganda is so easy and effective, remind me again why democracy is such a great idea?
El Dato , says: December 12, 2019 at 6:00 am GMT
@G. Poulin You have two choices:

1) Democracy with a population that is at least minimally engaged and angrily stays that way (including removing powerful special interests from premises with pitchforks)
2) Being "managed" on behalf of various power centers. This can be liveable or can turn into strip mining of your "resources".

Sadly, there is no algorithm that allows you to detect whether your are engaged or are being engaged on behalf of others. That would be easy. But one should start with a minimal state, hard money and the sons of the upper crust on the front lines and forbidden from taking office in government.

That being said, this article is a bit meandering. Came for Bellingcat but was confused.

Who presented the Emmy Award to the film makers, but none other than the rebel journalist Chris Hedges.

Maximum Clown World.

Johan , says: December 12, 2019 at 11:49 pm GMT
@El Dato "1) Democracy with a population that is at least minimally engaged and angrily stays that way (including removing powerful special interests from premises with pitchforks)"

There are no revolutions by means of pitchforks in a democracy, everything is weakened by compromise, false promises, infiltration, manipulation, etc. You cannot stay angry all the time too, it is very bad for your health, it needs to be short and intense to be effective, which is exactly what democracy prevents.
Democracy turns you into a petted animal.

[Aug 19, 2020] GOP Donors Vs. GOP Voters

Feb 17, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

From J.D. Vance's appearance last night on Tucker Carlson Tonight Vance has just said that the donor elites of the GOP are out of touch with the party's base. More:

CARLSON: But more broadly, what you are saying, I think is, that the Democratic Party understands what it is and who it represents and affirmatively represents them. They do things for their voters, but the Republican Party doesn't actually represent its own voters very well.

VANCE: Yes, that's exactly right. I mean, look at who the Democratic Party is and look, I don't like the Democratic Party's policies.

CARLSON: Yes.

VANCE: Most of the times, I disagree with them. But I at least admire that they recognize who their voters are and they actually just as raw cynical politics do a lot of things to serve those voters.

Now, look at who Republican voters increasingly are. They are people who disproportionately serve in the military, but Republican foreign policy has been a disaster for a lot of veterans. They are disproportionately folks who want to have more children. They are people who want to have more single earner families. They are people who don't necessarily want to go to college but they want to work in an economy where if you play by the rules, you can you actually support a family on one income.

CARLSON: Yes.

VANCE: Have Republicans done anything for those people really in the last 15 or 20 years? I think can you point to some policies of the Trump administration. Certainly, instinctively, I think the President gets who his voters are and what he has to do to service those folks. But at the end of the day, the broad elite of the party, the folks who really call the shots, the think tank intellectuals, the people who write the policy, I just don't think they realize who their own voters are.

Now, the slightly more worrying implication is that maybe some of them do realize who their voters are, they just don't actually like those voters much.

CARLSON: Well, that's it. So I watch the Democratic Party and I notice that if there is a substantial block within it, it's this unstable coalition, all of these groups have nothing in common, but the one thing they have in common is the Democratic Party will protect them.

VANCE: Yes.

CARLSON: You criticize a block of Democratic Voters and they are on you like a wounded wombat. They will bite you. The Republicans, watch their voters come under attack and sort of nod in agreement, "Yes, these people should be attacked."

VANCE: Yes, that's absolutely right. I mean, if you talk to people who spent their lives in D.C. I know you live in D.C.

CARLSON: Yes.

VANCE: I've spent a lot of my life here. The people who spend their time in D.C. who work on Republican campaigns, who work at conservative think tanks, now this isn't true of everybody, but a lot of them actually don't like the people who are voting for Republican candidates these days.

[Aug 19, 2020] Some Shocking Facts on the Concentration of Ownership of the US Economy

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the world has not seen these levels of concentration of ownership. The Soviet Union did not die because of apparent ideological reasons but due to economic bankruptcy caused by its uncompetitive monopolistic economy. Our verdict is that the US is heading in the same direction. ..."
"... In a future instalment of this report, we will show that the oligarchization of America – the placing it under the rule of the One Percent (or perhaps more accurately the 0.1%, if not 0.01%) - has been a deliberate ideologically driven long-term project to establish absolute economic power over the US and its political system and further extend that to involve an absolute global hegemony (the latter project thankfully thwarted by China and Russia). ..."
"... In present-day United States a few major investors – equity funds or private capital - are as a rule cross-owned by each other, forming investor oligopolies, which in turn own the business oligopolies. ..."
"... A study has shown that among a sample of the 1,500 largest US firms (S&P 1500), the probability of one major shareholder holding significant shares in two competing firms had jumped to 90% in 2014, while having been just 16% in 1999. (*2). ..."
"... Institutional investors like BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, Fidelity, and JP Morgan, now own 80% of all stock in S&P 500 listed companies. The Big Three investors - BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street – alone constitute the largest shareholder in 88% of S&P 500 firms, which roughly correspond to America's 500 largest corporations. (*3). Both BlackRock and Vanguard are among the top five shareholders of almost 70% of America's largest 2,000 publicly traded corporations. (*4). ..."
May 19, 2019 | russia-insider.com

A close-knit oligarchy controls all major corporations. Monopolization of ownership in US economy fast approaching Soviet levels

Starting with Ronald Reagan's presidency, the US government willingly decided to ignore the anti-trust laws so that corporations would have free rein to set up monopolies. With each successive president the monopolistic concentration of business and shareholding in America has grown precipitously eventually to reach the monstrous levels of the present day.

Today's level of monopolistic concentration is of such unprecedented levels that we may without hesitation designate the US economy as a giant oligopoly. From economic power follows political power, therefore the economic oligopoly translates into a political oligarchy. (It seems, though, that the transformation has rather gone the other way around, a ferocious set of oligarchs have consolidated their economic and political power beginning from the turn of the twentieth century). The conclusion that the US is an oligarchy finds support in a 2014 by a Princeton University study.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the world has not seen these levels of concentration of ownership. The Soviet Union did not die because of apparent ideological reasons but due to economic bankruptcy caused by its uncompetitive monopolistic economy. Our verdict is that the US is heading in the same direction.

In a later report, we will demonstrate how all sectors of the US economy have fallen prey to monopolization and how the corporate oligopoly has been set up across the country. This post essentially serves as an appendix to that future report by providing the shocking details of the concentration of corporate ownership.

Apart from illustrating the monopolization at the level of shareholding of the major investors and corporations, we will in a follow-up post take a somewhat closer look at one particularly fatal aspect of this phenomenon, namely the consolidation of media (posted simultaneously with the present one) in the hands of absurdly few oligarch corporations. In there, we will discuss the monopolies of the tech giants and their ownership concentration together with the traditional media because they rightfully belong to the same category directly restricting speech and the distribution of opinions in society.

In a future instalment of this report, we will show that the oligarchization of America – the placing it under the rule of the One Percent (or perhaps more accurately the 0.1%, if not 0.01%) - has been a deliberate ideologically driven long-term project to establish absolute economic power over the US and its political system and further extend that to involve an absolute global hegemony (the latter project thankfully thwarted by China and Russia). To achieve these goals, it has been crucial for the oligarchs to control and direct the narrative on economy and war, on all public discourse on social affairs. By seizing the media, the oligarchs have created a monstrous propaganda machine, which controls the opinions of the majority of the US population.

We use the words 'monopoly,' 'monopolies,' and 'monopolization' in a broad sense and subsume under these concepts all kinds of market dominance be it by one company or two or a small number of companies, that is, oligopolies. At the end of the analysis, it is not of great importance how many corporations share in the market dominance, rather what counts is the death of competition and the position enabling market abuse, either through absolute dominance, collusion, or by a de facto extinction of normal market competition. Therefore we use the term 'monopolization' to describe the process of reaching a critical level of non-competition on a market. Correspondingly, we may denote 'monopoly companies' two corporations of a duopoly or several of an oligopoly.

Horizontal shareholding – the cementation of the oligarchy

One especially perfidious aspect of this concentration of ownership is that the same few institutional investors have acquired undisputable control of the leading corporations in practically all the most important sectors of industry. The situation when one or several investors own controlling or significant shares of the top corporations in a given industry (business sector) is referred to as horizontal shareholding . (*1). In present-day United States a few major investors – equity funds or private capital - are as a rule cross-owned by each other, forming investor oligopolies, which in turn own the business oligopolies.

A study has shown that among a sample of the 1,500 largest US firms (S&P 1500), the probability of one major shareholder holding significant shares in two competing firms had jumped to 90% in 2014, while having been just 16% in 1999. (*2).

Institutional investors like BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, Fidelity, and JP Morgan, now own 80% of all stock in S&P 500 listed companies. The Big Three investors - BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street – alone constitute the largest shareholder in 88% of S&P 500 firms, which roughly correspond to America's 500 largest corporations. (*3). Both BlackRock and Vanguard are among the top five shareholders of almost 70% of America's largest 2,000 publicly traded corporations. (*4).

Blackrock had as of 2016 $6.2 trillion worth of assets under management, Vanguard $5.1 trillion, whereas State Street has dropped to a distant third with only $1 trillion in assets. This compares with a total market capitalization of US stocks according to Russell 3000 of $30 trillion at end of 2017 (From 2016 to 2017, the Big Three has of course also put on assets).Blackrock and Vanguard would then alone own more than one-third of all US publicly listed shares.

From an expanded sample that includes the 3,000 largest publicly listed corporations (Russell 3000 index), institutions owned (2016) about 78% of the equity .

The speed of concentration the US economy in the hands of institutions has been incredible. Still back in 1950s, their share of the equity was 10%, by 1980 it was 30% after which the concentration has rapidly grown to the present day approximately 80%. (*5). Another study puts the present (2016) stock market capitalization held by institutional investors at 70%. (*6). (The slight difference can possibly be explained by variations in the samples of companies included).

As a result of taking into account the common ownership at investor level, it emerges that the US economy is yet much more monopolized than it was previously thought when the focus had been on the operational business corporation alone detached from their owners. (*7).

The Oligarch owners assert their control

Apologists for monopolies have argued that the institutional investors who manage passive capital are passive in their own conduct as shareholders as well. (*8). Even if that would be true it would come with vastly detrimental consequences for the economy as that would mean that in effect there would be no shareholder control at all and the corporate executives would manage the companies exclusively with their own short-term benefits in mind, inevitably leading to corruption and the loss of the common benefits businesses on a normally functioning competitive market would bring.

In fact, there seems to have been a period in the US economy – before the rapid monopolization of the last decade -when such passive investors had relinquished control to the executives. (*9). But with the emergence of the Big Three investors and the astonishing concentration of ownership that does not seem to hold water any longer. (*10). In fact, there need not be any speculation about the matter as the monopolist owners are quite candid about their ways. For example, BlackRock's CEO Larry Fink sends out an annual guiding letter to his subject, practically to all the largest firms of the US and increasingly also Europe and the rest of the West. In his pastoral, the CEO shares his view of the global conditions affecting business prospects and calls for companies to adjust their strategies accordingly.

The investor will eventually review the management's strategic plans for compliance with the guidelines. Effectively, the BlackRock CEO has in this way assumed the role of a giant central planner, rather like the Gosplan, the central planning agency of the Soviet command economy.

The 2019 letter (referenced above) contains this striking passage, which should quell all doubts about the extent to which BlackRock exercises its powers:

"As we seek to build long-term value for our clients through engagement, our aim is not to micromanage a company's operations. Instead, our primary focus is to ensure board accountability for creating long-term value. However, a long-term approach should not be confused with an infinitely patient one. When BlackRock does not see progress despite ongoing engagement, or companies are insufficiently responsive to our efforts to protect our clients' long-term economic interests, we do not hesitate to exercise our right to vote against incumbent directors or misaligned executive compensation."

Considering the striking facts rendered above, we should bear in mind that the establishment of this virtually absolute oligarch ownership over all the largest corporations of the United States is a relatively new phenomenon. We should therefore expect that the centralized control and centralized planning will rapidly grow in extent as the power is asserted and methods are refined.

Most of the capital of those institutional investors consists of so-called passive capital, that is, such cases of investments where the investor has no intention of trying to achieve any kind of control of the companies it invests in, the only motivation being to achieve as high as possible a yield. In the overwhelming majority of the cases the funds flow into the major institutional investors, which invest the money at their will in any corporations. The original investors do not retain any control of the institutional investors, and do not expect it either. Technically the institutional investors like BlackRock and Vanguard act as fiduciary asset managers. But here's the rub, while the people who commit their assets to the funds may be considered as passive investors, the institutional investors who employ those funds are most certainly not.

Cross-ownership of oligarch corporations

To make matters yet worse, it must be kept in mind that the oligopolistic investors in turn are frequently cross-owned by each other. (*11). In fact, there is no transparent way of discovering who in fact controls the major institutional investors.

One of the major institutional investors, Vanguard is ghost owned insofar as it does not have any owners at all in the traditional sense of the concept. The company claims that it is owned by the multiple funds that it has itself set up and which it manages. This is how the company puts it on their home page : "At Vanguard, there are no outside owners, and therefore, no conflicting loyalties. The company is owned by its funds, which in turn are owned by their shareholders -- including you, if you're a Vanguard fund investor." At the end of the analysis, it would then seem that Vanguard is owned by Vanguard itself, certainly nobody should swallow the charade that those funds stuffed with passive investor money would exercise any ownership control over the superstructure Vanguard. We therefore assume that there is some group of people (other than the company directors) that have retained the actual control of Vanguard behind the scenes (perhaps through one or a few of the funds). In fact, we believe that all three (BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard) are tightly controlled by a group of US oligarchs (or more widely transatlantic oligarchs), who prefer not to brandish their power. It is beyond the scope of this study and our means to investigate this hypothesis, but whatever, it is bad enough that as a proven fact these three investor corporations wield this control over most of the American economy. We also know that the three act in concert wherever they hold shares. (*12).

Now, let's see who are the formal owners of these institutional investors

In considering these ownership charts, please, bear in mind that we have not consistently examined to what degree the real control of one or another company has been arranged through a scheme of issuing different classes of shares, where a special class of shares give vastly more voting rights than the ordinary shares. One source asserts that 355 of the companies in the Russell index consisting of the 3000 largest corporations employ such a dual voting-class structure, or 11.8% of all major corporations.

We have mostly relied on www.stockzoa.com for the shareholder data. However, this and other sources tend to list only the so-called institutional investors while omitting corporate insiders and other individuals. (We have no idea why such strange practice is employed

[Aug 19, 2020] Smash the Oligarchy by JOSIAH LIPPINCOTT

Oligarchy owns the USA political system and tune it to their needs. Proliferation of NGO is one such trick that favor oligarchy.
That kind of influence over expert opinion is immense—and it yields results. In April, Gates called for a nationwide total lockdown for 10 weeks. America didn’t quite sink to that level of draconian control, but the shutdowns we did get absolutely crushed small businesses. Massive tech firms, however, made out like bandits. Microsoft stock is at an all-time high.
Notable quotes:
"... Non-profit activity lets super-elites broker political power tax-free, reshaping the world according to their designs. ..."
"... The American tax code makes all of this possible. It greases the skids for the wealthy to use their fortunes to augment their political power. The 501(c)(3) designation makes all donations, of whatever size, to charitable nonprofits immune from taxation. ..."
"... For the super-wealthy, political power comes tax-free. ..."
"... No one ever elected Bill Gates to anything. His wealth, and not the democratic process, is the only reason he has an outsized voice in shaping coronavirus policy. The man who couldn't keep viruses out of Windows now wants to vaccinate the planet. That isn't an unreasonable goal for a man of his wealth, either. Gates's foundation is the second largest donor to the World Health Organization, providing some 10 percent of its funds . That kind of influence over expert opinion is immense -- and it yields results. In April , Gates called for a nationwide total lockdown for 10 weeks. America didn't quite sink to that level of draconian control, but the shutdowns we did get absolutely crushed small businesses. Massive tech firms, however, made out like bandits. Microsoft stock is at an all-time high . ..."
"... Eliminating the tax exemption for charitable giving would make it simple to heavily tax the capital gains that drive the wealth of America's richest one thousand people. One could also leave the exemption in place for most Americans (those with a net worth under $100 million), while making larger gifts, especially those over a billion dollars, taxable at extremely high rates close to 100%. Bill Gates wants to give a billion dollars to his foundation? Great. But he should pay a steep fee to the American people to purchase that kind of power. ..."
"... There is nothing socialist in these or similar tax proposals. We are not making an abstract commentary on whether having a billion dollars is "moral." These are simply prudential measures to put the people back in charge of their own country. Reining in billionaires and monopolists is a conservative free market strategy. ..."
"... An America governed by Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, and George Soros will be -- arguably, already is -- a disaster for the middle class and everyday Americans. Cracking down on their "selfless" philanthropy, combined with antitrust enforcement and higher progressive tax rates, is a key way for Americans to leverage the power of the ballot box against the power of the banker's vault. ..."
"... The rotting edifice that is the United States is coming down one way or another. Just accept it. ..."
"... I would end tax exempt status for organizations. When everyone pays taxes we all become better stewards of how that money is used. ..."
"... To think both Mr. Dreher and Mr. Van Buren just recently posted about the superwealthy leaving the big cities, citing as the main reasons the Covid thing on the one hand, and "excessively high" income taxes on the other. Most comments that followed were in the line of "that's what happens when you let socialists run things" and "stop giving money to the poor, then they'll work and get rich." And here we have someone proposing more and higher taxes on the wealthy to bust their political nuts. ..."
"... It's an interesting proposal, but it seems that if you're worried about super-elites brokering political power tax-free, you might focus on direct brokering of political power. For example, we could pass a law requiring full disclosure of all sources of funding for any political advertising. ..."
Aug 19, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Non-profit activity lets super-elites broker political power tax-free, reshaping the world according to their designs.

America's super-wealthy have too much power. A republican regime based on the consent of the governed cannot survive when a few hands control too large a sum of money and too much human capital. A dominion of monopolists spells ruin for the common man.

The Federal Reserve calculates that, at present, America's total household wealth equals $104 trillion . Of that, $3.4 trillion belongs to America's 600 billionaires alone. Put another way, 3% of the nation's wealth belongs to 0.0002% of the population. Those 600 names control twice as much wealth as the least wealthy 170 million Americans combined . This is a problem. Economic power means political power. In an era of mass media, it has never been easier to manufacture public opinion and to manipulate the citizenry.

Look no further than the consensus view of Fortune 500 companies as to the virtues of Black Lives Matter. That movement's incredible cultural reach is, in large part, a function of its cachet among American elites. In 2016, the Ford Foundation began a Black-Led Movement Fund to funnel $100 million into racial and social justice causes. George Soros' Open Society Foundation immediately poured in $33 million in grants.

Soros and company received a massive return on investment. The shift leftward on issues of racial and social justice in the last four years has been nothing short of remarkable. Net public support for BLM , at minus 5 percent in 2018, has surged to plus 28 percent in 2020. The New York Times estimates that some 15 to 26 million Americans participated in recent protests over George Floyd's death.

And the money keeps flowing. In the last three months, hundreds of millions of dollars have poured into social and racial justice causes. Sony Music Group , the NFL , Warner Music Group , and Comcast all have promised gifts in excess of $100 million. MacKenzie Bezos has promised more than a billion dollars to Historically Black Colleges and Universities as well as other racial and social justice organizations. Yet, as scholars like Heather MacDonald have pointed out -- America's justice system is not racist. Disquieting anecdotes and wrenching videos blasted across cyberspace are not the whole of, or even representative of, our reality. But well-heeled media and activism campaigns can change the perception. That's what matters.

The American tax code makes all of this possible. It greases the skids for the wealthy to use their fortunes to augment their political power. The 501(c)(3) designation makes all donations, of whatever size, to charitable nonprofits immune from taxation.

A man can only eat so much filet mignon in one lifetime. He can only drive so many Lamborghinis and vacation in so many French chalets. At a certain point, the longing for material pleasures gives way to a longing for honor and power. What a super-elite really wants is to be remembered for "changing the world." The tax code makes the purchasing of such honors even easier than buying fast cars and luxury homes.

For the super-wealthy, political power comes tax-free.

No one ever elected Bill Gates to anything. His wealth, and not the democratic process, is the only reason he has an outsized voice in shaping coronavirus policy. The man who couldn't keep viruses out of Windows now wants to vaccinate the planet. That isn't an unreasonable goal for a man of his wealth, either. Gates's foundation is the second largest donor to the World Health Organization, providing some 10 percent of its funds . That kind of influence over expert opinion is immense -- and it yields results. In April , Gates called for a nationwide total lockdown for 10 weeks. America didn't quite sink to that level of draconian control, but the shutdowns we did get absolutely crushed small businesses. Massive tech firms, however, made out like bandits. Microsoft stock is at an all-time high .

No one ever voted on those lockdowns, either. Like the mask-wearing mandates, they were instituted by executive fiat. The experts , many of them funded through donations given by tech billionaires like Gates , campaigned for policies that radically altered the basic structure of society. Here lies the danger of billionaire power. Without adequate checks and balances, the super-wealthy can skirt the normal political process, working behind the scenes to make policies that the people never even have a chance to debate or vote on.

A republic cannot be governed this way. America needs to bring its current crop of oligarchs to heel. That starts with constraining their ability to commandeer their massive personal fortunes to shape policy. Technically, the 501(c)(3) designation prevents political activities by tax-exempt charities. Those rules apply only to political campaigning and lobbying, however. They say nothing about funding legal battles or shaping specific policies indirectly through research and grants. America's universities, think tanks, and advocacy organizations are nearly universally considered tax-exempt nonprofits. Only a fool would believe they are not political.

One solution to the nonprofit problem to simply get rid of the charitable exemption all together. If there is no loophole, it can't be exploited by the mega-wealthy. Most Americans' charitable giving wouldn't be affected. The average American gives between $2,000 and $3,000 per year . That is well under the $24,800 standard tax deduction for married couples. Ninety percent of taxpayers have no reason to use a line-item deduction. Such a change likely wouldn't affect wealthy givers either. In 2014 , the average high-income American (defined as making more than $200,000 per year or having a million dollars in assets) gave an average of $68,000 to charity, and in 2018 93 percent said their giving had nothing to do with tax breaks.

Eliminating the tax exemption for charitable giving would make it simple to heavily tax the capital gains that drive the wealth of America's richest one thousand people. One could also leave the exemption in place for most Americans (those with a net worth under $100 million), while making larger gifts, especially those over a billion dollars, taxable at extremely high rates close to 100%. Bill Gates wants to give a billion dollars to his foundation? Great. But he should pay a steep fee to the American people to purchase that kind of power.

There is nothing socialist in these or similar tax proposals. We are not making an abstract commentary on whether having a billion dollars is "moral." These are simply prudential measures to put the people back in charge of their own country. Reining in billionaires and monopolists is a conservative free market strategy.

Incentives to make more money are generally good. The libertarians are mostly right -- people are usually better judges of how to spend and use their resources than the government.

But not always. The libertarian account does not adequately recognize man's political nature. We need law and order. We need a regime where elections matter and the opinions of the people actually shape policy. Contract law, borders, and taxes are all necessary to human flourishing, but all impede the total and unrestricted movement of labor and money. At the very top of the wealth pyramid, concentrated economic power always turns into political power. An economic policy that doesn't recognize that fact will create an untouchable class that controls both the market and the regime. There's nothing freeing about that outcome.

An America governed by Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, and George Soros will be -- arguably, already is -- a disaster for the middle class and everyday Americans. Cracking down on their "selfless" philanthropy, combined with antitrust enforcement and higher progressive tax rates, is a key way for Americans to leverage the power of the ballot box against the power of the banker's vault.

Josiah Lippincott is a former Marine officer and current Master's student at the Van Andel School of Statesmanship at Hillsdale College.


Kent13 hours ago

I'd like to thank the author for actually discussing policy proposals that actually make sense. That's a rarity on TAC. However, he needs to keep a couple of things in mind:

1. You can't just say something isn't socialist on a conservative website. Conservatives have been conditioned for decades to believe that anything the GOP considers to be bad is called by the name "socialism". And taxes are bad. Therefore socialist. To bring any nuance to that word will be devastating to long-term conservative ability to argue points.

2. This proposal won't just hurt the ability of left-leaning tech giants, but also right-leaning oil and defense industry barons. A double-edged sword.

AlexanderHistory X12 hours ago

This is an interesting idea that might have had a shot, big maybe, 50 plus years ago. America is too far gone to fix with political changes, not that you could make any major changes like this in the current political environment.

The rotting edifice that is the United States is coming down one way or another. Just accept it.

joeo12 hours ago

I would end tax exempt status for organizations. When everyone pays taxes we all become better stewards of how that money is used.

bumbershoot joeo10 hours ago

Certainly! Just so long as the word "organizations" encompasses churches as well, I think lots of people on all sides of the political spectrum would agree.

Ted joeo10 hours ago

Starting with the Roman Catholic Church.

YT14 joeo7 hours ago • edited

Complicated argument. Basically, charitable people will always give charity, even from taxed income. However, if people give charity from taxed income, the state can no longer control what the institutions given money do with that money as long as salaries and surplus are taxed.

YT1412 hours ago • edited

Interesting proposal. Removing tax deduction should of course throw IRS out of monitoring charitable giving. So less power to Lois Lerner and colleagues.

Woland11 hours ago

To think both Mr. Dreher and Mr. Van Buren just recently posted about the superwealthy leaving the big cities, citing as the main reasons the Covid thing on the one hand, and "excessively high" income taxes on the other. Most comments that followed were in the line of "that's what happens when you let socialists run things" and "stop giving money to the poor, then they'll work and get rich." And here we have someone proposing more and higher taxes on the wealthy to bust their political nuts.

Note that the author carefully left out any mention of conservative megadonors shaping public policy. Must be the quiet part, to avoid tarring and feathering by his own side.

bumbershoot10 hours ago
Reining in billionaires and monopolists is a conservative free market strategy.

It certainly never has been one before, but we on the left welcome this new appreciation of the perils of growing inequality.

Now all you have to do is convince the entire Republican Party that this isn't "socialism." Good luck!

AdmBenson10 hours ago

Say you like the game of Monopoly so much that you want it to last longer than the few hours it takes for one player to dominate and beat the others. Well, you could replace $200 as you pass Go with progessive taxation on income, assets, or a combination thereof. If you do it right, you can make the game last into perpetuity by ensuring that the dominance of any one player is only temporary.

gnt8 hours ago • edited

It's an interesting proposal, but it seems that if you're worried about super-elites brokering political power tax-free, you might focus on direct brokering of political power. For example, we could pass a law requiring full disclosure of all sources of funding for any political advertising.

If we wanted to be aggressive, we could even pass a constitutional amendment to specify that corporations are not people. It seems odd to worry about the political power exercised by institutions with no direct control over politics, and ignore the institution whose purpose is politics.

Another approach to deal with the direct influence of the super-elite would be to make lobbying expenses no longer tax deductible. I'm sure you could find support for that.

YT14 gnt7 hours ago

You are aware that this way IRS will lose control? Lois Lerner will be able no more to go after conservative non-profits?

Pete Barbeaux4 hours ago

This is the 5th TAC article since May to take something word-for-word from a Bernie Sanders-esque Leftist platform and call it something "Conservatives" want. GTFOOH.

GeorgeMarshall653 hours ago

Mr. Lippincott: That kind of influence over expert opinion is immense -- and it yields results. In April, Gates called for a nationwide total lockdown for 10 weeks. America didn't quite sink to that level of draconian control, but the shutdowns we did get absolutely crushed small businesses. Massive tech firms, however, made out like bandits. Microsoft stock is at an all-time high.

So the argument here is that the experts were not going to call for a lockdown, but Mr. Gates' outsized influence made them do it? The experts weren't going to do it anyway? Did that outsized influence extend to every other country in the world which imposed lockdowns? Was there a secret communique between Mr. Gates and the NBA so they suspended their season in mid-March? In the US, CA, Clark Cty in NV, Illinois, Kansas City, MA, MI, NY, OR, and WI all began lockdowns in March. Around the world, 80 countries began lockdowns in March. No matter what Mr. Gates said, lockdowns were deemed to be appropriate. Plus, Mr. Lippincott admits that Mr. Gates' proposal was not followed. In terms of "massive tech firms making out like bandits" v small businesses, might that have anything to do with their value?

L RNY2 hours ago

I very much agree with this article and I think we need another Teddy Roosevelt Monopoly (oligarchy) buster but much has changed in the 100 years since Teddy Roosevelt was President. The first thing that comes to mind is that the aristocracy was mostly protestant and the business class was mostly domestic with high tariffs keeping foreign competitors out so we could break up these companies without a foreign country purchasing them and possibly creating a national security risk.

Today's aristocracy is much more diverse. Its more Jewish and it has much more minority representation from African Americans, Asians, Hispanics, etc so that creates the first problem in breaking up a monopoly or an oligarchy which would be the accusation of targeting minorities for discrimination. The second problem is that many of the aristocratic class in the US consider themselves global citizens and have dual citizenship. They can live anywhere anytime they choose so if you target them the way say Cuomo and DiBlasio and Newsom do then they will leave. Third problem is our global society particularly the digital / virtual society. If you break that up without safeguards then you will only be inviting foreign ownership then you will have a national security issue and even less influence.

The biggest problem is the NGOs, nonprofits that the rich set up to usurp the government on various issues from immigration to gender identity to politics. These NGO nonprofits arent your harmless community soup kitchen doing good works. The anarchy, arson, looting, rioting in Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NYC, Baltimore these are paid for by NGO nonprofits and they have the money to threaten local government, state government and federal government. Trump was 100% correct when he started to tax college endowments but he didnt go far enough. The tax laws have to be rewritten with a very strict and narrow interpretation of what exactly constitutes the public good and is deserving on non-profit status. If you say education then I will say you are correct but endowments are an investment vehicle under the umbrella of an educational nonprofit. Thats like a nonprofit hospital buying a mutual fund company or a mine or a manufacturing plan and claiming its non-profit. For me its relatively simple unless someone has a some other way. If you look at the non-profit community good...what are the budgets for say hospitals, schools, orphanages, retirement homes, etc. Put monetary limits on nonprofits which can vary depending on industry and the rest is taxed at a high rate. We simply cannot have NGOs (nongovernmental organizations) using a nonprofit status to bring down a country's financial system, over-throwing a country, financing civil strife and civil war, usurping the government on things like immigration, etc.

[Aug 19, 2020] Why the Superrich Keep Getting Richer by Grace Blakeley

Aug 19, 2020 | www.defenddemocracy.press

July 25, 2020

Billionaires like Jeff Bezos aren't obscenely wealthy because they work harder than everyone else or they're more innovative. They're obscenely wealthy because their corporate empires drain society's resources -- and we'd all be better off without them.

This week, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos saw the largest single-day increase in wealth ever recorded for any individual. In just one day, his fortune increased by $13 billion. On current trends, he is on track to become the world's first trillionaire by 2026.Those on the right wing of politics argue that extreme wealth is a function of hard work, creativity, and innovation that benefits society. But wealth and income inequality have increased dramatically in most advanced economies in recent years. The richest of the rich are much wealthier today than they were several decades ago, but it is not clear that they are working any harder.

Mainstream economists make a more nuanced version of this argument. They claim that the dramatic increase in income inequality has been driven by the dynamics of globalization and the rise of "superstars." Firms and corporate executives are now competing in a global market for capital and talent, so the rewards at the top are much higher -- even as competition also constrains wages for many toward the bottom end of the distribution.

According to this view, high levels of inequality are a reward for high productivity. The most productive firms will attract more investment than their less productive counterparts, and their managers, who are performing a much more complex job than those managing smaller firms, will be rewarded accordingly.

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But here again the narrative runs aground on contact with reality. Productivity has not risen alongside inequality in recent years. In fact, in the United States and the UK productivity has flatlined since the financial crisis -- and in the United States, it has been declining since the turn of the century.

There is another explanation for the huge profits of the world's largest corporations and the huge fortunes of the superrich. Not higher productivity. Not simply globalization. But rising global market power.

Many of the world's largest tech companies have become global oligopolies and domestic monopolies. Globalization has played a role here, of course -- many domestic firms simply can't compete with global multinationals. But these firms also use their relative size to push down wages, avoid taxes, and gouge their suppliers, as well as lobbying governments to provide them with preferential treatment.

Jeff Bezos and Amazon are a case in point. Amazon has become America's largest company through anticompetitive practices that have landed it in trouble with the European Union's competition authorities. The working practices in its warehouses are notoriously appalling . And a study from last year revealed Amazon to be one of the world's most "aggressive tax avoiders."

Part of the reason Amazon has to work so hard to maintain its monopoly position is that its business model relies on network effects that only obtain at a certain scale. Tech companies like Amazon make money by monopolizing and then selling the data generated from the transactions on their sites.

The more people who sign up, the more data is generated; and the more data generated, the more useful this data is for those analyzing it. The monetization of this data is what generates most of Amazon's returns: Amazon Web Services (AWS) is the most profitable part of the business by some distance.

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Far from representing its social utility, Amazon's market value -- and Bezos' personal wealth -- reflects its market power. And the rising market power of a small number of larger firms has actually reduced productivity. This concentration has also constrained investment and wage growth as these firms simply don't have to compete for labor, nor are they forced to innovate in order to outcompete their rivals.

In fact, they're much more likely to use their profits to buy back their own shares, or to acquire other firms that will increase their market share and give them access to more data. Amazon's recent acquisition of grocery store Whole Foods is likely to be the first of many such moves by tech companies. Rather than the Darwinian logic of compete or die, the tech companies face a different imperative: expand or die.

States are supporting this logic with exceptionally loose monetary policy. Low interest rates make it very easy for large companies to borrow to fund mergers and acquisitions. And quantitative easing -- unleashed on an unprecedented scale to tackle the pandemic -- has simply served to raise equity prices, especially for the big tech companies.

As more areas of our lives become subject to the power of big tech, the fortunes of people like Bezos will continue to mount. Their rising wealth will not represent a reward for innovation or job creation, but for their market power, which has allowed them to increase the exploitation of their workforces, gouge suppliers, and avoid taxes.

The only real way to tackle these inequities is to democratize the ownership of the means of production, and begin to hand the key decisions in our economy back to the people. But you would expect that even social democrats, who won't pursue transformative policies, could get behind measures such as a wealth tax.

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"Building back better" after the pandemic will be impossible without such a tax -- and the vast majority of both Labour and Conservative voters support such an approach, according to a recent poll. And yet it appears that Labour's leadership are retreating from the idea.

In an interview the other day, I was asked why we should care about Jeff Bezos's wealth if it makes everyone else better off. But the extreme inequalities generated by modern capitalism are making obvious something that Marxists have known for decades: the superrich generate their wealth at the expense of workers, the planet, and society as a whole.

In a rational and fair society, the vast resources of a tiny elite would be put to use solving our social problems.

[Aug 19, 2020] The pendulum swings back to sensible taxation rates for the ultra wealthy

Wishful thinking. The neoliberal oligarchy is in conrol of all political power centers. Looks like neoliberal ideas became completely discredited. Even Krugman abandoned them.
Notable quotes:
"... In the age of AI the US needs a grand rebuilding of our infrastructure including electrical grids, bridges, highways, mass transit systems, and conversion to renewable energy. ..."
"... Elizabeth Warren showed her chops years ago when she was a guest on Bill Moyer's PBS show, and I've been a fan ever since. But - we don't just need more of Teddy Roosevelt - we need a good dose of Franklin Roosevelt, too ..."
"... In Senator Warren we finally have a politician who understands the difference between wealth and income and is willing to start taxing wealth. This is especially important as the truly wealthy receive very little of their money in the form of income and are therefore taxed on far less than they are actually worth. This only serves to exacerbate our inequality problem. ..."
"... Extreme income inequality is damaging to social capital and to public health - and thus in the long run to sustainable prosperity. The American epidemic of depression, opioid abuse and suicide is is correlated with the acceleration of income inequality. ..."
"... Finally, Senator Warren's proposal seems like an acceleration of the estate tax. ..."
"... Having worked in trusts and estates law for decades, I suspect that this proposal will invite use of the same techniques used by estate planners, lawyers, and accountants to drive down the fair market value of assets. Her proposal may work, if it is ever enacted, but the devil, as usual, will be in the details. This is a very complex concept, simple as it may seem at first blush. That is not an argument for not trying, but for being very careful in the implementation, beginning with the statutory language. ..."
"... This tax will require staffing up the IRS and that will require dems control over both houses of Congress as the GOPers have defunded the IRS. ..."
"... Pretax income concentration at the top increased starting in the 1980s as a direct result of the large reductions in the top marginal income tax rates. ..."
"... Even if a 70% top marginal tax rate did not raise a penny more in tax revenue it would still be justified on the grounds of preventing extreme concentration of wealth and income. Recent economic research has shown that in a purely capitalistic society in which there is no taxation nor redistribution all wealth in the whole society will ultimately be owned by a single household. https://voxeu.org/article/what-would-wealth-distribution-look-without-redistribution ..."
"... I applaud Elizabeth Warren and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez for espousing Teddy an Franklin Roosevelt's ideas about reducing the concentration of 90% of wealth in the upper 1/10th of 1 per cent (0.1%). That is the situation which can lead to major social unrest, widespread crime, and ultimately, civil war as happened in England in the 17th century, in Russia in 1917, and in the French Revolution that beheaded Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette - along with thousands of other members of the nobility. ..."
"... "wealthiest 0.1 percent of Americans almost equal to that of the bottom 90 percent combined." The corrupt neoliberalism of the 1% is unsustainable but is reflective of a downward spiral of decline. While we experience continuous political campaigning the U.S. is, in reality, a criminal and corrupt corporate state enriching the 1% and masquerading as a democracy, an Inverted Totalitarianism. ..."
"... Great. The pendulum swings back to sensible taxation rates for the ultra wealthy. Hard to feel sorry for hedge fund managers. I can just see Sean Hannity railing against it now. He would have to cough up. ..."
"... Fascinating article. Thanks for sharing. Her Accountable Capitalism Act also addresses the root causes of inequality, although some critics have stated that it would lead to the semi-nationalization of business. ..."
Feb 04, 2019 | www.nytimes.com
Grindelwald Boston Mass Jan. 29

@Horsepower the tax bill has, as predicted by almost everyone but the GOP lawmakers, caused the deficit to balloon. Currently, the resulting debt must be paid by the descendents of all of us but the ultra-wealthy. The alternative to that approach, openly proposed by the GOP, was to take away vital services from most of us, like medical care, public education, and retirement support. I'm surprised that you don't find those things "consequential to the life of most Americans".

Doug Johnston Chapel Hill, NC Jan. 29

There is no reason -- economic, social or moral -- why anyone needs a personal fortune above $500 million dollars.

Eddie Cohen M.D ecohen2 . com Poway, California Jan. 29

In the age of AI the US needs a grand rebuilding of our infrastructure including electrical grids, bridges, highways, mass transit systems, and conversion to renewable energy.

It also needs a medical care system that provides a high level of to all of our citizens including the poor and those with pre-existing conditions. What better down payment on these costly necessities than a tax on the ultra rich.

Mary Ann Seattle, WA Jan. 29

Elizabeth Warren showed her chops years ago when she was a guest on Bill Moyer's PBS show, and I've been a fan ever since. But - we don't just need more of Teddy Roosevelt - we need a good dose of Franklin Roosevelt, too.

Given where this country is at, taxing the uber-rich alone isn't going to be enough to solve our problems. We need a jobs program - good, family wage jobs - that have been chipped away at for decades by both automation and off-shoring.

Taxing will help fund much needed gov't infrastructure problems, but it's purchasing power that drives the economy - and we can't have one without a vibrant middle class that's actually making and doing stuff. Since the Clinton years, the USA has spawned a bloated investor class, making a lot of money shuffling paper, but what do they produce that drives this country forward? Our infrastructure is fast becoming 3rd world.

John Murphysboro, IL Jan. 29

In Senator Warren we finally have a politician who understands the difference between wealth and income and is willing to start taxing wealth. This is especially important as the truly wealthy receive very little of their money in the form of income and are therefore taxed on far less than they are actually worth. This only serves to exacerbate our inequality problem. The big banks, in particular, are very worried about what would happen should Warren become president. Like that other Roosevelt - Franklin - she welcomes their hatred. Good for her.

Barry Fogel Lexington, MA Jan. 28

Extreme income inequality is damaging to social capital and to public health - and thus in the long run to sustainable prosperity. The American epidemic of depression, opioid abuse and suicide is is correlated with the acceleration of income inequality.

Worldwide, countries with high income inequality have more depression, more suicide and less happiness, even when their per capita GNP is higher than their neighbors'. The toxic effects of inequality are especially great in a nation like the US where children are taught that anyone can make it if they work hard enough. In fact, there's a lot more upward mobility in those awful socialist Nordic countries, where teaching public school is a prestigious and well-paid job, college and vocational training are taxpayer-funded (not 'free'), and no one goes bankrupt from a serious illness or injury.

Steve Tripoli Hull, MA Jan. 29

Without endorsing anyone's proposals here, a couple of examples from recent history on what's actually possible, despite what people may think: -- Six weeks before the Berlin Wall fell and reunited Germany, the then-West German government issued a report projecting that German reunification was at least 20 years away. -- Japan went from a highly-nuclear power dependent country, with no prospect of changing, to one that drastically cut its dependence on nuclear in just one year after the Fukushima disaster. -- One of my favorites: FDR sits down with the leaders of General Motors at the dawn of WWII and says I need so many tanks, so many trucks etc etc for the war effort. A GM exec responds on these lines: "Mr. President, we can't fulfill those needs and still produce X-hundred-thousand cars a year." FDR: "You don't understand. You're no longer a car company." So the lesson is, no one knows what's possible in a society till you try.

Silas Greenback Guilford, CT Jan. 28

Eliminating carried interest seems perfectly rational. Compensation by any other name is compensation and taxable as ordinary income as it is for everyone else in this country. Once upon a time, capital gains were taxed at 15% and ordinary income at rates as high as 91%. That led to all sorts of devices to game the system, including the infamous collapsible corporation.

But with the difference down to around 10-15%, we may as well bite the bullet and tax income from capital at the same rate we tax income from work. I doubt this will hurt savings, investment, or capital formation.

It is still nice to have money, and owning capital assets will still beat the alternative.

Finally, Senator Warren's proposal seems like an acceleration of the estate tax.

Having worked in trusts and estates law for decades, I suspect that this proposal will invite use of the same techniques used by estate planners, lawyers, and accountants to drive down the fair market value of assets. Her proposal may work, if it is ever enacted, but the devil, as usual, will be in the details. This is a very complex concept, simple as it may seem at first blush. That is not an argument for not trying, but for being very careful in the implementation, beginning with the statutory language.

Lisa Bay Area Jan. 28

@Taz Bernie talks in bumper-sticker slogans; Elizabeth talks substance.

Tom New Jersey Jan. 28

@Steve B People receiving Social Security only pay taxes on the benefits if their income exceeds the same thresholds that apply to people who go out and work for a living, and pay Social Security taxes that go to the elderly. Ellen, stop treating Social Security like it's a savings bank.

Your Social Security taxes paid for the generation before you, and the Social Security taxes raised now are paying for you. The average Social Security recipient today will receive twice as much as they paid into the system during their earning years.

So please give the "I'm just getting back the money I paid into the system" routine a rest. It's a fiction. The wealth of the over 65s is growing faster than any other age group in our society, and the fraction of government spending on over-65s is the only part of government that has grown in decades.

If you're making enough to pay income taxes, pay your taxes and stop complaining. That means you're doing OK. You'd better hope young people don't wake up and realize just how much of their hard-earned pay is going to pay for retirees.

Kodali VA Jan. 29

The seriousness in her policies is in her work ethics and brilliance. She means what she says and works her heart out to achieve those goals. There isn't anyone out there that matches those qualities.

RobertF Acton Ma Jan. 28

This tax will require staffing up the IRS and that will require dems control over both houses of Congress as the GOPers have defunded the IRS.

The ultra right, ultra rich will be paying more and more of their fortunes to their already privately-owned senators to defeat this and any other progressive tax proposals. We need more, more and more people to get into the democratic process and VOTE to recapture the nation's leadership in 2020!

Doug Rife Sarasota, FL Jan. 28

Pretax income concentration at the top increased starting in the 1980s as a direct result of the large reductions in the top marginal income tax rates. Those who complain that a 70% top marginal tax rate is confiscatory need to understand that's the whole point.

When top marginal tax rates are confiscatory that leads to lower pre-tax income inequality because tax aversion of the wealthy leads they to pay themselves less income to avoid paying the government so much in taxes.

Unlike most workers, corporate executives can easily arrange for their boards to pay them far more than their marginal product would justify.

Furthermore, wealth tends to concentrate automatically when top marginal tax rates are low. This is simply due to the math of compound interest. When investment returns are not taxed sufficiently by the estate tax or by capital gains taxes, they will be reinvested leading to extreme wealth accumulation over generations that is automatic and not the result of any kind of investing skill.

Even if a 70% top marginal tax rate did not raise a penny more in tax revenue it would still be justified on the grounds of preventing extreme concentration of wealth and income. Recent economic research has shown that in a purely capitalistic society in which there is no taxation nor redistribution all wealth in the whole society will ultimately be owned by a single household. https://voxeu.org/article/what-would-wealth-distribution-look-without-redistribution

Ana Luisa Belgium Jan. 28

@Baldwin Actually, it's 2% on what is on top of those 50M, so 2% on 100M, if you have a net worth of $150M. That being said, nobody with $150M net worth just "sits" on his money for 35 years. To get there in the first place, in the 21st century you usually have to pay an expert and engage in financial speculation (= speculation about financial transactions, not an investment in the "real" economy), and of course you won't stop paying that expert once you reach $150M, so you continue to add millions to your wealth anyhow. On the other hand, if you belong to the middle class, you easily pay $30,000 taxes a year.

After ten years, that's $300,000, and after 33 years that's a million dollars paid in taxes. Seen in this way, even having the middle class paying taxes seems "unfair", because when they only earn $75,000 a year, why should they pay a million in taxes over 33 years ... ?

Conclusion: taxes are paid year after year not in function of how many you will have paid in total at the end of your career, but in function of what we collectively need to run this country smoothly (military, government, education, roads and bridges, EPA, ...).

A "fair" tax code is a tax code that allows anyone who works hard to live comfortably, weather your a hedge fund manager or teacher. And in order to get there, we can't continue the GOP's constantly lowering taxes for the wealthiest all while cutting services to the 99%. NO one with $150M will suffer by paying $2M in taxes a year ...

San Francisco Voter San Framcoscp Jan. 28

I applaud Elizabeth Warren and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez for espousing Teddy an Franklin Roosevelt's ideas about reducing the concentration of 90% of wealth in the upper 1/10th of 1 per cent (0.1%). That is the situation which can lead to major social unrest, widespread crime, and ultimately, civil war as happened in England in the 17th century, in Russia in 1917, and in the French Revolution that beheaded Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette - along with thousands of other members of the nobility.

We see this anger and violence today in the United States - in mass shootings, in failing public schools (the salaries are not sufficient to attract qualified teachers who instead will work in more remunerative fields, like law and computer technology. What works better is to reduce the concentration of wealth so people in the lower 90% can have more prosperity and social stability in their lives.

All people need a reliable source of food, healthcare, and a place for them and their families to live. All people need access to good education, family planning, and higher education sufficient to alllow them to work. With so much reliance on mechanical work, we also need for all people to have a minimum income - something that no one talks abou yet - but enough to live safely.

There is support for this not only among Democrats but also among Republicans. The help should be for everyone, not based on need (Marxism). This is common sense not socialism.

Dadof2 NJ Jan. 29

It was hilarious to read that Rush Limbaugh is SO terrified of AOC and Liz Warren that he, the grandmaster of Goebbels-like mis-information, is calling them "hitlerian" as he and Hannity push Trump every day to emulate Mussolini! But why is simple: I read that Limbaugh makes about $100 million a year, which puts him in the super-rich category. I doubt highly that he's paying the maximum 37(?)% on his income and if he is he needs better accountants and tax lawyers! But AOC's proposal means that $90 million of his $100 million would be taxed at 70%, leaving him "only" a measly $27 million a year to try not to starve on. Along with whatever millions are left after taxes on the first $10 million, say, $5 million (again, needs better tax advice). So he's stuck trying to survive on $32 million! (BTW, Hannity only makes about $29 million before taxes, Oh! The Humanity!--Or is it "Oh! The Hannity"?) That's really why they are vitriolic. Taxes are for the "little people", the suckers who call in and rant, who watch Fox and believe, no matter how illogical their logic. Rush and Sean see a REAL movement to tax their excessive income and will fight it tooth and nail, with fact and fiction (mostly fiction) to protect themselves and their wealth.

Mike L NY Jan. 29

Interesting how it is almost exactly a hundred years since this problem was dealt with in the last Gilded Age. Enough time so that the generations that remember are long gone and so the problem came back.

The Uber rich did this to themselves with their complete disconnect from the economic realities facing the 99%. TARP was the kicker - we gave a trillion dollars to the 1% while the 99% were left to fend for themselves. Despite the protestations of the 99%. Now that's political power in the hands of the few for the benefit of the few. Time to stop it now.

Ken McBride Lynchburg, VA Jan. 29

"wealthiest 0.1 percent of Americans almost equal to that of the bottom 90 percent combined." The corrupt neoliberalism of the 1% is unsustainable but is reflective of a downward spiral of decline. While we experience continuous political campaigning the U.S. is, in reality, a criminal and corrupt corporate state enriching the 1% and masquerading as a democracy, an Inverted Totalitarianism.

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." Louis D. Brandeis

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Henry's boy Ottawa, Canada Jan. 29

Great. The pendulum swings back to sensible taxation rates for the ultra wealthy. Hard to feel sorry for hedge fund managers. I can just see Sean Hannity railing against it now. He would have to cough up.

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Fran B. Kent, CT Jan. 29

This column makes a good case for Elizabeth Warren as Secretary of the Treasury, or head of the Consumer Protection Bureau which she invented following Dodd Frank legislation. But the best way to reach the widest audience is a Presidential campaign. Most of the responses here focus on enough wealth, extreme wealth and self-interest. Beyond their tax liabilities is the reality of the power the the rich wield through lobbyists, campaign contributions, corporate takeovers, and tax dodges over our politics, governments, and over us, the people. It's a pity that any proposed tax fairness adjustments are reduced to epithets against socialism.

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David Dyte Brooklyn Jan. 28

The problem is that the big money against this will say (ie: fund ads saying) anything (true or false) about any other subject to swing votes against any candidate who's a serious chance of pushing such a tax increase. One can only hope I am wrong.

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Seabiscute MA Jan. 29

@Socrates, another trenchant and witty comment! Thank you.

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Cindy California Jan. 29

Fascinating article. Thanks for sharing. Her Accountable Capitalism Act also addresses the root causes of inequality, although some critics have stated that it would lead to the semi-nationalization of business. I think its effect would be commonsense regulation of the economic playing field so that excesses do not occur in how rewards are distributed. It has the potential to address issues early enough to prevent problems.

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Steve Scaramouche Saint Paul Jan. 29

@George Thanks to the Republican budget busting tax holiday for rich folks we will need every penny of revenue just to keep our fiscal boat afloat. We should add AOC's 70% rate just to patch our leaks in infrastructure, healthcare, education and social security for the retirees who were gutted by the 2008 Republican Great Recession.

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cslaftery NY, NY Jan. 29

Since the super-rich are already paying 2+20 for their wealth management, paying another 2 to the government hardly seems like it would kill incentive...

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Gary Upper West Side Jan. 28

Throughout most of the history of civilizations, governments have been funded by a wealth tax. This was in the form of property tax, as that was the only wealth there was. Somehow when financial wealth started to build, it was made largely exempt. Proposals to close this loophole are well overdue. It's not so radical as it is just restoring traditional funding methods.

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texsun usa Jan. 29

A sure sign of health when Warren, a veteran politician and Ocasio-Cortez, a first term member of Congress publish ideas early in the election cycle. The next steps are laws that dismantle Citizens United and protect voting rights.

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Wayne Campbell Ottawa, Canada Jan. 28

Elizabeth Warren had better take care. If she doesn't tread softly on these plans to progressively tax the rich and make them spread the wealth to all those millions of people out there who have had a hand in generating their economic success, she'll be called something equally invidious to a 'socialist' -- a 'Canadian'.

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stu freeman brooklyn Jan. 29

Prof. Krugman is speaking truth to power but power tends to speak back, telling our citizens that progressives like Sen. Warren are aiming to increase taxes across the board. Never EVER do they narrow the stated target of such projected increases to the uppermost economic stratum. And progressives always manage to let them get away with this. Democratic candidates for political office need to assign members of their campaign staffs to Republican events and arm them with bullhorns for the expressed purpose of shouting out the words "for the rich" every time a typically disingenuous Republican opponent announces that a specific Democrat has a plan to raise Americans' taxes.

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Andrew Michigan Jan. 29

"More important, my sense is that a lot of conventional political wisdom still assumes that proposals to sharply raise taxes on the wealthy are too left-wing for American voters." It's just shocking to me that conservative voters supposedly hate liberal elites, yet refuse continuously to tax the mega rich and/or ignore the tax cuts for those households. Do they not see the hypocrisy they're being fed by Fox News?

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Tom Pauloski Highland Park, IL Jan. 29

I know that it's inconvenient, but the US Constituion prohibits a direct tax that is not apportioned among the states on the basis of population. Hard to see how Ms. Warren's "plan" meets this standard. Serious presidential candidates need to propose plans that actually have a chance to work. After what we're experiencing now, we don't need four additional years of bombast.

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Kem Phillips Vermont Jan. 29

@Mkm Can you give any arguments as to why this is unconstitutional, or a source as to when it was declared so? Note that once (ie, just a few generations ago) abhorrent laws concerning voting rights and segregation were considered just fine.

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Ana Luisa Belgium Jan. 28

@Paul Wortman We indeed tend to believe that the poor and lower middle class must be (more) ignorant, and as such easier victims of the GOP's massive fake news campaigns. Studies show however that a majority of those earning less than $100,000 a year voted for Hillary, whereas a small majority of those earning more than that voted for Trump. That's because her platform included VERY clear and urgent, fact-based measures that would have helped the poor and middle class, after Obama already made serious progress on these issues (a public option added to Obamacare, and many other things). So imho the only ones risking "forgetting" about the needs of the 99% when it comes to voting, are those who don't carefully fact-check politicians' achievements and campaign agenda, before voting (or deciding not to vote) ...

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CA CA Jan. 29

@BC The current standard deduction of $12K for single people means that the first $12K is not taxed ($24K joint) which means that your wish has already come true.

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Paul Rogers Montreal Jan. 29

@Socrates Please run for office.

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boourns Nyc Jan. 29

Fundamentally, a fallacy of modern American society is a perversion of the golden rule. Let's call it "tax not lest ye be taxed." Even though the electorate will never in their wildest dreams make this kind of income, their wildest dreams persist. And thus they will not permit the thought of "unfair" taxation on the ultra-rich, using all the talking points the richest 1% have lobbied deep into our political system at every level.

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Doug Lowenthal Nevada Jan. 29

At this stage in our history when wealth hasn't been more concentrated, raising taxes on the ultra-rich is exactly what populism is about. Think TR and FDR, not DJT.

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pjahwah Iowa Jan. 29

@Socrates Oh Socrates, you do have a way with words! Your first and second paragraphs are lol gems! I hope you keep coming back.

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michaeltide Bothell, WA Jan. 29

@Ronald B. Duke, I think I remember people saying that during the civil rights movement too. Be patient. You'll get what you want by'n'by. Waiting for dynastic fortunes trickle away is sort of like waiting for the mountain to be worn away by the wind. It's not gonna happen in our lifetime. There's always a reason for not depriving the wealthy of any part of their fortunes. Each time we fail to do that, the need to do it becomes more dire. Things just don't get better by waiting for someone to voluntarily or even accidentally, divest themselves of money or power. It can be done by legislation, and that's better than by revolution. And, you know, the wealth accumulation has already begun. What has to happen now is to keep it from falling over and crushing all of us (Make that almost all of us).

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Tom Maguire Darien CT Jan. 28

@Rockets Pual Krugman is almost surely right about incentives on the individual level since few of us will hold off just because the second $50 MM is slightly less lucrative. Buts its funny how he ignores the macroeconomic effect. If the Bezos tax bill was $1 billion, I think we agree it would come exclusively out of savings. *IF* the government simply used the proceeds to reduce spending (below some credible prior baseline) then the net effect on national savings is zero; interest rates unchanged, economic activity unaffected, and so on. But if the government spends the money (as seems likely under President Warren) then national savings is reduced and the fed will (in the current environment) probably feel obliged to push back against a stimulative fiscal policy with a restrictive monetary policy: higher rates, less investment, less consumer spending, etc. So Bezos has no incentive to invest less but as a nation we will do just that. Is that good? Maybe - it would have been great in 2009. Seems to merit a discussion.

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Harold Winter Park, Fl Jan. 29

The 2020 campaign for POTUS is shaping up to be very interesting. That is, if Trump makes it. Combine Warren and Harris we would have a great team. Warren adds specifics with intellectual heft and Harris inspires us with her open, honest and intelligent persona. Just need to find room for Amy K. on that team.

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DJS New York Jan. 29

@FunkyIrishman Your "radical plan " has been tried, and has failed.

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Native Tarheel Durham, NC Jan. 29

This is far better than changing the rate on capital gains, which would tend to punish middle class retirees for having invested over the years (Mr. Rattner's proposal today) and, I think, would be difficult for the uber-wealthy to avoid. I'm not sure that $50 million is the correct starting point (perhaps a meager $25 million of net worth should be taxed) but this is a brilliant new concept that offers promise of slowing wealth inequality while not terribly constraining the wealthy.

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Henry Crawford Silver Spring, Md Jan. 29

"We seem to be heading toward a society dominated by vast, often inherited fortunes." Welcome to kingship, 21st Century style.

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Mathman314 Los Angeles Jan. 29

In reading this column and the associated comments, there seems to be one glaring omission: the necessity of overturning the Citizens United decision which provides the ultra-rich avenues to continually push their lower taxes agenda by hiring hoards of lobbyists, by "buying" politicians with campaign contributions, by funding misleading and excessive political advertising, and by controlling various media outlets that are little more than propaganda mills. Until Citizens United is overturned much-needed, rational progressive taxation reforms have little chance of becoming reality, and with the current composition of the Supreme Court overturning this decision is unfortunately extremely unlikely.

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stan continople brooklyn Jan. 29

@Yabasta Yeah, Dr. Krugman must have sustained a hit to the head since 2016 and would not recognize a photo of Hillary Clinton if it was flashed before him. His incessant savaging of Bernie was positively embarrassing to witness and never adequately explained. Only goes to show you that our much vaunted reason is designed to justify our emotions and that even Nobel laureates have deep subconscious axes to grind.

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Rosebud NYS Jan. 29

Under Eisenhower marginal tax rates were approximately 90%. This "Greatest Generation" built the interstate system. We can't even maintain the interstate system we have let alone build a new one. Our national-level political system is dominated by the rich. Our economic policies are totally skewed towards the rich. Our educational system is biased towards the rich. We've let capitalism trump democracy. If making America Great Again means taxing the rich back into reality, I have no problem with that. My only annoyance with Mr. Krugman's essay is his monomaniacal avoidance of saying the word, "Sanders." What's that about?

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Steve NJ Jan. 29

This makes perfect sense to me. Under Senator Warren's plan households with more than $50 million of annual income would pay a 2% wealth surcharge. I can't imagine this would have any significant effect on any of the 75,000 wealthiest U.S. households. I'd much rather see Michael Bloomberg and his financial peers support broader efforts to make college free or reduce student debt levels than make more lavish gifts to elite institutions like John Hopkins.

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Rima Regas Southern California Jan. 28

cks, broken promises, scandal. and a presidency in trouble – all pushed Bill Clinton into taking a brand new tack: triangulation. In addition to the definition of triangulation offered by Dick Morris in his Frontline appearance on PBS, here is a quote from his book: "The idea behind triangulation is to work hard to solve the problems that motivate the other party's voters, so as to defang them politically The essence of triangulation is to use your party's solutions to solve the other side's problems. Use your tools to fix their car." The problem with that is that triangulation has not quite worked out that way. "Their car" wasn't what was actually being fixed. What the "tools" did address, however, were the goals of the Republican party. https://www.rimaregas.com/2017/09/04/triangulation-when-neoliberalism-is-at-its-most-dangerous-to-voters-updated-dem-politics-on-blog42 /

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Schrodinger Northern California Jan. 28

@Jonathan....Current S+P 500 dividend yield is 2.02%. That would provide cash to cover most of the wealth tax. A wealth tax might impact the market for high end art and collectibles, but that is probably a very small fraction of total wealth.

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Peter Wolf New York City Jan. 29

@Duane McPherson I realize Warren may have some limitations re emotional appeal (also re men not wanting to vote for a woman), which is why I said I put her "at the top of my list for Dems, SO FAR." I'll see how this plays out on the campaign trail. Someone else may emerge who has both the smarts and the charisma- or Warren may find an emotional niche. Time will tell.

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skier 6 Vermont Jan. 29

@George Warren Buffet has said, "There's class warfare all right. But it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."

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mrpoizun hot springs Jan. 28

@Phyliss Dalmatian I'm afraid Sherrod is not liberal enough. Nowadays, if you talk about bi-partisanship and reaching across the aisle, you're talking about making a deal with the devil.

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faivel1 NY Jan. 29

@Yuri Asian Very passionate and authentic comment!

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UtahSteve 1953 Gardiner, NY Jan. 29

This is a pie pie-in-the-sky comment, but I'll stand by the overall premise based on our history. It's all about the velocity of money and resources. You have to spend it to grow it. Infrastructure also includes 100% healthcare cradle to grave, baseline living standards, Social Security clean water, clean air, clean power, full education, etc. Infrastructure is the key to everything throughout history, period. Close all tax loop holes. Reduce all business taxes by at least half or more. Create a progressive tax rate starting at 0% raised all the way to 80% up the ladder. If you don't like it, renounce your citizenship with all of what that entails and leave. Completely get rid of the cap on Social Security. Everyone except those at the 0% tax rate pays in 7%. That is fair. Make the business contribution 3% of the first $100,000 Reinstate a stronger set of anti-trust guard rails. Re-instate a stronger form of Glass/Steagle. Reinstate a stronger Fairness Doctrine Realize that a corporation is NOT a person and if we think they are, subject them to the 13th amendment regarding one person owning another. They also are not allowed participate in anything of a political nature, in any way shape or form. Period. Full stop. Invest in the poor and middle classes in all ways. Raising standards from the bottom up raises all boats. It's not "trickle down" it's "trickle up". It's all about the velocity of money. You have to spend it to grow it. We can do this in this country.

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James Ricciardi Panama, Panama Jan. 28

Why do by indirection what is better done directly? Income tax rates should be adjusted to push the marginal rate to a percentage needed to produce the estimated revenue from Warren's proposal. This would (1) not require creation of a new beauracracy and a new wealth tax code to administer the new wealth tax, (2) not create incentives for lawyers and accounts to redefine net worth and would (3) not change incentives for investments by wealthy individuals, with unknown and unknowable side effects. If we also want to reduce fortunes directly, enact a truly functional estate tax, not the joke which we have now.

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Truthbeknown Texas Jan. 29

One other thought, the high tax rates of the 1950s and 1960s carried with them many, many deductions which are no longer available -- -which were surrendered politically in exchange for lower overall ages. Maybe something additionally to be considered would be combing through the tax code and addressing the special interest provisions which conflate social policy about certain companies/products/goals with tax policy.

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Tom Maguire Darien CT Jan. 28

@A P As you note, simply giving the money to their foundation can spare them the tax bill. They don't actually need to have the foundation disburse that much of it. And my casual impression is that Bill Gates' ability to direct billions through his foundation has preserved his "social capital" - he is still invited to Davos, can tour Africa with Bono or the Pope, get his phone calls returned by Important People, get his kids into whatever college he chooses to endow, hop on private jets to wherever, and so on. As punishments go forcing him to chair a major foundation is not much.

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John Coctosin Florida Jan. 29

The government has never proven itself to be a good steward of capital. They will tax and spend, tax and reallocate, tax and waste. No thanks. Would rather the incentives remain and America push back against socialist notions. So expected from Krugman.

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Jonathan Lincoln Jan. 28

@CDN Eh? Real estate is already valued every year and taxed accordingly, it's called property taxes. Art and antiquities are already valued for insurance purposes. It's not difficulty at all.

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b fagan chicago Jan. 28

@Shiv "I'm completely unable to determine how Jeff Bezos's work building Amazon has caused me or anyone else to be worse off. In fact, we're all better off." So you know nobody who had been making a decent living with a bookstore - or in publishing - or in many other small businesses that have been priced into oblivion by Amazon if they'd been lucky enough to survive the WalMart effect that came before. Robert Reich in "Supercapitalism" was right. The consumer side of a person can so easily derange the thinking of the rest of the person. Not following me? Than picture the dream world of big tech companies with their dreams of stupendous individual wealth by "disrupting" something where people have been making their livings. Each wave of disruption leaves people without their jobs. And these days, the chance of getting into a better-paying job after being disruptive aren't all that terrific if you look at the statistical outcomes. So is your view of morality served by the relentless push to undercut older businesses that provided employment, simply because the disrupting model is "more efficient"? Reconsider what "efficiency" is supposed to accomplish in the bigger picture of society rather than just shareholder (and top executive) financial reward.

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usa999 Portland, OR Jan. 29

As an authentic Republican, not one of the brigands who hijacked the party as a means to plunder and pillage, I heartily endorse the Warren proposal. To make it somewhat more palatable for voters I would suggest it earmark 50% of the revenue generated go to starting to pay down the national debt. That would mean, using the 2.75 trillion estimate, that in the first decade we would reclaim from the wealthiest approximately what Republicans gave away in the deficit-financed tax cuts of 2017. In effect having had an interest-free loan from us for a decade they would return the cash we have been paying interest on. Would be quite big of them, actually.

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WAXwing01 EveryWhere Jan. 30

Excellent!

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Ana Luisa Belgium Jan. 28

@Alice It's not as if we ignore which tax loopholes for the wealthiest have to be closed and how to do so, you know. Democrats have been trying to do this for quite some time already, but the GOP blocks it. And Obamacare already includes a tax increase for the wealthiest - that's one of the reasons why it cuts the deficit by $100 billion, rather than adding to it. That proves that the wealthiest DNC donors and Democrats (such as Obama himself, and Pelosi) FULLY agree to increase their own taxes. Conclusion: cynicism never helped us move forward, fact-checking does ... ;-)

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stan continople brooklyn Jan. 29

@Vink Why do you think they all own a dozen sprawling properties scattered around the globe? They are all Bond villain wannabes never far from a secret citadel. I hope they've got plenty of toilet paper on hand for the siege.

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Jeoffrey Arlington, MA Jan. 28

@Michael Blazin You think that... why? It's not at all clear. But it is clear that the law could be written so that any transaction could be taxed. So unless the billionaires want to hide their money under their mattresses.....

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Joe Sneed Bedminister PA Jan. 29

A progressive wealth tax is an"idea whose time has come". See Piketty, Thomas. Capital in the Twenty-First Century . Harvard University Press. Use the revenue generated for infrastructure repair.

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Jim Gordon So Orange,nj Jan. 29

@carl bumba You'll need to visit those other countries to see how wrong you are and how right Socrates is.

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John Homan Yeppoon - Australia Jan. 29

@Rajiv The discussion is not about 'attacking' income, but taxing wealth.

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mrpoizun hot springs Jan. 28

@Blue Moon As far as Social Security and Medicare, all we have to do to fix that is tax the millionaires' income the same as we do the peon- every dime that goes in their overseas accounts should be taxed, same as the rest of us.

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Zdebman Central US Jan. 29

There are numerous holes in this proposal, none of which have anything to do with "greed". 1. What Krugman, Saez and Zucman fail to mention is that Denmark repealed its wealth tax in 1996 and Sweden repealed its wealth tax more than a decade ago. Not hard to understand why -- it is ultimately a self-defeating tax policy that just drives wealth out of your economy. Krugman doesn't mention that Saez and Zucman's basic premise is that every country has to implement a wealth tax for it to work, which is never going to happen. 2. Warren's proposal is blatantly unconstitutional as a direct tax, so she would need to garner the political support not just to pass the tax but amend the constitution similar to what was done for the income tax. Highly unlikely. The bottom line is that the only way to actually pay for all of the middle-class goodies that Democrats want to be provided by the Federal government (free college, Medicare for all, free daycare, paid leave) is to tax the middle-class like what they do in Sweden and Denmark through VAT and much lower income tax thresholds. Of course, once everyone figures that out, those proposals won't poll nearly as well, which is why AOC is now claiming that it will be magically paid for through the hocus-pocus of Modern Monetary Theory.

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PV Wisconsin Jan. 29

For Warren's tax proposal that "wouldn't lead to large-scale evasion if the tax applied to all assets and was adequately enforced ..." the IRS needs more staff and a bigger budget. Past Republican congresses have purposely gutted the agency's audit and enforcement capabilities at the direction of the very interests Warren's proposal targets.

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Charlesbalpha Atlanta Jan. 29

"Would such a plan be feasible? Wouldn't the rich just find ways around it?" The most likely way around it would be to bribe Congress not to vote for it. Isn't that why they

[Aug 08, 2020] Voting Fraud Is Real- The Electoral System Is Vulnerable -

Aug 08, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Voting Fraud Is Real: The Electoral System Is Vulnerable


by Tyler Durden Thu, 08/06/2020 - 21:05 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Philip Giraldi via The Strategic Cultuire Foundation,

The United States national election is now only three months away and it should be expected that the out-and-out lies emanating from both parties will increase geometrically as the polling date nears. One of the more interesting claims regarding the election itself is the White House assertion that large scale voting by mail will permit fraud, so much so that the result of the voting will be unreliable or challenged. To be sure, it is not as if voter fraud is unknown in the United States. The victory of John F. Kennedy 1960 presidential election has often been credited to all the graveyards in Mayor Richard Daley's Chicago voting to swing Illinois into the Democratic camp.

The Democrats are insisting that voting by mail is perfectly safe and reliable, witness the use of absentee ballots for many years. The assertions by Democratic Party-affiliated voting officials in several states and also from friends on the federal level have been played in the media to confirm that fraud in elections has been insignificant recently. That may be true, up until now.

The Democrats, of course, have an agenda. For reasons that are not altogether clear, they believe that voting by mail would benefit them primarily, so they are pushing hard for their supporters to register in their respective states and cast their ballots at the local mail box. Nevertheless, there should be some skepticism whenever a major American political party wants something. In this case, the Democrats are likely assuming that people at lower income levels who will most likely vote for them cannot be bothered to register and vote if it requires actually going somewhere to do it. They have spoken of "expansion of voting," presumably to their benefit. The mail is a much easier option.

A Fox News host has rejected the impelling logic behind the mail option, saying "Can't we just have this one moment to vote for one candidate every four years, and show up and put a ballot in without licking an envelope or pressing on a stamp? If you can shop for food, if you can buy liquor, you can vote once every four years."

The fundamental problem with the arguments coming from both sides is that there is no national system in the United States for registering and voting. Elections are run at state level and the individual states have their own procedures. The actual ballots also differ from voting district to voting district. To determine what safeguards are actually built into the system is difficult as how electoral offices actually function is considered sensitive information by many, precisely because it might reveal vulnerabilities in the process.

To determine how one might actually vote illegally, I reviewed the process required for registering and voting by mail in my own state of Virginia. In Virginia one can both register and vote without any human contact at all. The registration process can be accomplished by filling out an online form, which is linked here . Note particularly the following: the form requires one to check the box indicating U.S. citizenship. It then asks for name and address as well as social security number, date of birth and whether one has a criminal record or is otherwise disqualified to vote. You then have to sign and date the document and mail it off. Within ten days, you should receive a voter's registration card for Virginia which you can present if you vote in person, though even that is not required.

But also note the following: no documents have to presented to support the application, which means that all the information can be false. You can even opt out of providing a social security number by indicating that you have never been issued one, even though the form indicates that you must have one to be registered, and you can also submit a temporary address by claiming you are "homeless." Even date of birth information is useless as the form does not ask where you were born, which is how birth records are filed by state and local governments. Ultimately, it is only the social security number that validates the document and that is what also appears on the Voter's ID Card, but even that can be false or completely fabricated, as many illegal immigrant workers in the U.S. have discovered.

In a state like Virginia, the actual mail-in ballot requires your signature and that of a witness, who can be anyone. That is also true in six other states. Thirty-one states only require your own signature while only three states require that the document be notarized, a good safeguard since it requires the voter to actually produce some documentation. Seven states require your additional signature on the ballot envelope and two states require that a photocopy of the voter ID accompany the ballot. In other words, the safeguards in the system vary from state to state but in most cases, fraud would be relatively easy.

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And then there is the issue of how the election commissions in the states will be overwhelmed by tens of thousands of mail-in ballots that they might be receiving in November. That overload would minimize whatever manual checking of names, addresses and social security numbers might otherwise take place. Jim Bovard has speculated how :

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"The American political system may be on the eve of its worst legitimacy crisis since the Civil War. Early warning signals indicate that many states could suffer catastrophic failures in counting votes in November Because of the pandemic, many states are switching primarily to mail-in voting even though experiences with recent primaries were a disaster. In New York City, officials are still struggling to count mail-in ballots from the June primary. Up to 20% of ballots 'were declared invalid before even being opened , based on mistakes with their exterior envelopes,' the Washington Post noted, thanks largely to missing postmarks or signatures. In Wisconsin, more than 20,000 ' primary ballots were thrown out because voters missed at least one line on the form, rendering them invalid.' Some states are mailing ballots to all the names on the voting lists, providing thousands of dead people the chance to vote from the grave."

Add into the witch's cauldron the continued use of easily hacked antiquated voting machines as well as confusing ballots in many districts, and the question of whether an election can even be run with expectations of a credible result becomes paramount. President Trump has several times claimed that the expected surge in mail-in voting could result in " the most corrupt vote in our nation's history ." Trump is often wrong when he speaks or tweets spontaneously, but this time he just might be right. gcjohns1971 , 8 hours ago

This was why the founders required voters to be property owners. You have to have a stake in the system to have a vote in the system or you will only vote for the property owners' wealth to be given to you.

joego1 , 8 hours ago

Pretty soon that would mean only Black Rock could vote.

rent slave , 7 hours ago

Some people pay taxes and have wealth without owning property.Plus ,some property owners are nearly indigent and dependent on government handouts.

Chocura750 , 7 hours ago

Voting by mail gives the elderly and shutins the ability to vote. These are usually Republican leaning which makes me wonder why the Republicans oppose it. Mail in voting has been done for years without any problems.

Wild Bill Steamcock , 8 hours ago

I had recently come to the conclusion, and in hind sight its a fairly obvious one that mail-in voting is no more prone to fraud than the electronic voting machines. Hell, it's easier to manipulate those, at least with the mail in ballots there is a paper trail.

Glad to see the article points this out.

But, the election outcome will be what TPTB want it to be. Voting and elections are too important to be left to us commoners. ay_arrow

Billy the Poet , 8 hours ago

One would have to have access to electronic voting equipment in order to manipulate the data. Mail in voter fraud involves nothing more than getting ahold of ballots and sending them in which sounds like a lower bar. No special access or skills necessary. It could end up like "we found a box of ballots in the truck of my car" on steroids.

NoDebt , 8 hours ago

Any system run by the corrupt will be compromised.

Let me explain how I see this going down with new mail-in voting this cycle:

Lots of mail-in ballots will come in that are rejected for one reason or another (arrived too late, had no postmark, signature didn't match, whatever). The Ds will already have favorable judges lined up ready to overturn those rulings. While those rulings are waiting to be overturned, thousands more in a similar circumstance will keep mysteriously piling up. The hand-picked judge will rule them all valid and they will be counted.

HERE IS THE TRICK WHICH WILL BE EXPLOITED:

Remember when Trump won in '16 they simply stopped reporting results for about 6 hours from any state anywhere in the US? Went on from about 10pm (when it became obvious Trump was about to pull off his upset) to about 4am, give or take.

What were they doing in those hours? LOOKING FOR MORE VOTES FOR HILLARY. They couldn't find or manufacture enough in that time period.

But what if you were to stretch that period of time out not just for hours, but days or even weeks? Plenty of time to "find" the votes needed to tip the election so that once the judge rules in their favor, all of the rejected mail-in ballots, plus the number needed to tip the outcome are in. And once the judge rules, they are ALL in. Not just the technically questionable ones, but the outright fraudulent ones that were added after the fact.

ALL THEY NEED IS TIME. AND MAIL-IN VOTING GIVES THEM THAT TIME.

Billy the Poet , 8 hours ago

It would also be easier to make sure that your loyal constituents remained loyal by watching them fill out ballots (or filling out ballots for them), rewarding them on the spot and mailing in the votes.

Much easier than dragging people to the polls and hoping that they stick around long enough and manage to pull the right lever.

You could go door to door and buy blank ballots and do the same thing. If people are willing to sell EBT cards they'd probably be willing to sell their ballot.

bIlluminati , 5 hours ago

Even easier. See that ballots from known Republican strongholds don't get postmarked, or, if postmarked, never make it to their destination. Or Demonrat votes. Or open envelopes to see how they voted, and replace the ones that voted "the wrong way". President Trump could get as few as 50 million votes if the Dims want a landslide, and blame it on corona.

GoozieCharlie , 6 hours ago

In 2016 I was amazed (but not surprised) at the school buses full of adult coloreds tooling around on secondary roads near the triple point where OH, MI, and IN come together, on the Monday before election day. Also, i'd never seen so many coloreds in the convenience stores in that very lily white area.

NeitherStirredNorShaken , 8 hours ago

The entire voting process including electorate is one massive fraud. Are people that vote and participate pretending they live in some kind of Democracy really believing the delusion?

And you're making fun of the of so called woke retards?

Here's what happens in a rigged vote when a recount is ordered. 10,000 voting machines burn in a warehouse fire the same night the recount is court ordered.

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/us/politics/11voting.html

Observer 2020 , 7 hours ago

Anyone who militates against the integrity of the electoral process is a traitor, nothing less.

The disloyal opposition's efforts to render this nation's electoral system a Third World burlesque, by qualifying to vote millions, if not tens of millions, of illegals and by advocating the wanton distribution of mail in ballots, constitutes the felonious disenfranchisement of natural born citizens - an act of treason.

CatInTheHat , 6 hours ago

Blatant election fraud in Broward county Florida..

Tim Canova vs. Wasserman Schulz

[Aug 03, 2020] How The Billionaires Control American Elections by Eric Zuesse

Notable quotes:
"... Greenwald went on, after that, to discuss other key appointees by Nancy Pelosi who are almost as important as Adam Smith is, in shaping the Government's military budget. They're all corrupt. ..."
"... Numerous polls (for examples, this and this ) show that American voters, except for the minority of them that are Republican, want "bipartisan" government; but the reality in America is that this country actually already does have that: the U.S. Government is actually bipartisanly corrupt, and bipartisan evil. In fact, it's almost unanimous, it is so bipartisan, in reality. ..."
"... That's the way America's Government actually functions, especially in the congressional votes that the 'news'-media don't publicize. However, since it lies so much, and its media (controlled also by its billionaires) do likewise, and since they cover-up instead of expose the deepest rot, the public don't even know this. They don't know the reality. They don't know how corrupt and evil their Government actually is. They just vote and pay taxes. That's the extent to which they actually 'participate' in 'their' Government. They tragically don't know the reality. It's hidden from them. It is censored-out, by the editors, producers, and other management, of the billionaires' 'news'-media. These are the truths that can't pass through those executives' filters. These are the truths that get filtered-out, instead of reported. No democracy can function this way -- and, of course, none does. ..."
"... The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society , and we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings . ..."
"... But we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding it's fear of influence, on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections , on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. It's preparations are concealed, not published. It's mistakes are buried, not headlined. It's dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned. No rumor is printed. No secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War in short with a wartime discipline, no democracy would ever hope or wish to match. ..."
Aug 03, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

How The Billionaires Control American Elections


by Tyler Durden Sun, 08/02/2020 - 23:40 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Eric Zuesse via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

The great investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald gave an hour-long lecture on how America's billionaires control the U.S. Government, and here is an edited summary of its opening twenty minutes, with key quotations and assertions from its opening -- and then its broader context will be discussed briefly:

"How Congress Maintains Endless War – System Update with Glenn Greenwald" - The Intercept, 9 July 2020

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ejqYrzEX14E

2:45 : There is "this huge cleavage between how members of Congress present themselves, their imagery and rhetoric and branding, what they present to the voters, on the one hand, and the reality of what they do in the bowels of Congress and the underbelly of Congressional proceedings, on the other. Most of the constituents back in their home districts have no idea what it is that the people they've voted for have been doing, and this gap between belief and reality is enormous."

Four crucial military-budget amendments were debated in the House just now, as follows:

  1. to block Trump from withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.

  2. to block Trump from withdrawing 10,000 troops from Germany

  3. to limit U.S. assistance to the Sauds' bombing of Yemen

  4. to require Trump to explain why he wants to withdraw from the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty

On all four issues, the pro-imperialist position prevailed in nearly unanimous votes - overwhelming in both Parties. Dick Cheney's daughter, Republican Liz Cheney, dominated the debates, though the House of Representatives is now led by Democrats, not Republicans.

Greenwald (citing other investigators) documents that the U.S. news-media are in the business of deceiving the voters to believe that there are fundamental differences between the Parties. "The extent to which they clash is wildly exaggerated" by the press (in order to pump up the percentages of Americans who vote, so as to maintain, both domestically and internationally, the lie that America is a democracy -- actually represents the interests of the voters).

16:00 : The Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee -- which writes the nearly $750B annual Pentagon budget -- is the veteran (23 years) House Democrat Adam Smith of Boeing's Washington State.

"The majority of his district are people of color." He's "clearly a pro-war hawk" a consistent neoconservative, voted to invade Iraq and all the rest.

"This is whom Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats have chosen to head the House Armed Services Committee -- someone with this record."

He is "the single most influential member of Congress when it comes to shaping military spending."

He was primaried by a progressive Democrat, and the "defense industry opened up their coffers" and enabled Adam Smith to defeat the challenger.

That's the opening.

Greenwald went on, after that, to discuss other key appointees by Nancy Pelosi who are almost as important as Adam Smith is, in shaping the Government's military budget. They're all corrupt. And then he went, at further length, to describe the methods of deceiving the voters, such as how these very same Democrats who are actually agents of the billionaires who own the 'defense' contractors and the 'news' media etc., campaign for Democrats' votes by emphasizing how evil the Republican Party is on the issues that Democratic Party voters care far more about than they do about America's destructions of Iraq and Syria and Libya and Honduras and Ukraine, and imposing crushing economic blockades (sanctions) against the residents in Iran, Venezuela and many other lands. Democratic Party voters care lots about the injustices and the sufferings of American Blacks and other minorities, and of poor American women, etc., but are satisfied to vote for Senators and Representatives who actually represent 'defense' contractors and other profoundly corrupt corporations, instead of represent their own voters. This is how the most corrupt people in politics become re-elected, time and again -- by deceived voters. And -- as those nearly unanimous committee votes display -- almost every member of the U.S. Congress is profoundly corrupt.

Furthermore: Adam Smith's opponent in the 2018 Democratic Party primary was Sarah Smith (no relation) and she tried to argue against Adam Smith's neoconservative voting-record, but the press-coverage she received in her congressional district ignored that, in order to keep those voters in the dark about the key reality. Whereas Sarah Smith received some coverage from Greenwald and other reporters at The Intercept who mentioned that "Sarah Smith mounted her challenge largely in opposition to what she cast as his hawkish foreign policy approach," and that she "routinely brought up his hawkish foreign policy views and campaign donations from defense contractors as central issues in the campaign," only very few of the voters in that district followed such national news-media, far less knew that Adam Smith was in the pocket of 'defense' billionaires. And, so, the Pentagon's big weapons-making firms defeated a progressive who would, if elected, have helped to re-orient federal spending away from selling bombs to be used by the Sauds to destroy Yemen, and instead toward providing better education and employment-prospects to Black, brown and other people, and to the poor, and everybody, in that congressional district, and all others. Moreover, since Adam Smith had a fairly good voting-record on the types of issues that Blacks and other minorities consider more important and more relevant than such things as his having voted for Bush to invade Iraq, Sarah Smith really had no other practical option than to criticize him regarding his hawkish voting-record, which that district's voters barely even cared about. The billionaires actually had Sarah Smith trapped (just like, on a national level, they had Bernie Sanders trapped).

Of course, Greenwald's audience is clearly Democratic Party voters, in order to inform them of how deceitful their Party is. However, the Republican Party operates in exactly the same way, though using different deceptions, because Republican Party voters have very different priorities than Democratic Party voters do, and so they ignore other types of deceptions and atrocities.

Numerous polls (for examples, this and this ) show that American voters, except for the minority of them that are Republican, want "bipartisan" government; but the reality in America is that this country actually already does have that: the U.S. Government is actually bipartisanly corrupt, and bipartisan evil. In fact, it's almost unanimous, it is so bipartisan, in reality.

That's the way America's Government actually functions, especially in the congressional votes that the 'news'-media don't publicize. However, since it lies so much, and its media (controlled also by its billionaires) do likewise, and since they cover-up instead of expose the deepest rot, the public don't even know this. They don't know the reality. They don't know how corrupt and evil their Government actually is. They just vote and pay taxes. That's the extent to which they actually 'participate' in 'their' Government. They tragically don't know the reality. It's hidden from them. It is censored-out, by the editors, producers, and other management, of the billionaires' 'news'-media. These are the truths that can't pass through those executives' filters. These are the truths that get filtered-out, instead of reported. No democracy can function this way -- and, of course, none does.

Patmos , 8 hours ago

Eisenhower originally called it the Military Industrial Congressional Complex.

Was probably still when Congress maybe had a few slivers of integrity though.

As McCain's wife said, they all knew about Epstein.

Alice-the-dog , 2 hours ago

And now we suffer the Medical Industrial Complex on top of it.

Question_Mark , 1 hour ago

Klaus Schwab, UN/World Economic Forum - power plant "cyberattack" (advance video to 6:42 to skip intro):
please watch video at least from minute 6:42 at least for a few minutes to get context, consider its contents, and comment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOvz1Flfrfw


source for UN/WEF partnership:
https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/06/world-economic-forum-and-un-sign-strategic-partnership-framework/

EngageTheRage , 9 hours ago

How jewish billionaires control America.

NewDarwin , 9 hours ago

Vot3 for trump but don't waste too much energy on the elections. All Trump can do is buy us time.

Their plan has been in the works for over a century.

1) financial collapse with central banking.

2) social collapse with cultural marxism

3) government collapse with corrupt pedophile politicians.

EndOfDayExit , 7 hours ago

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." -Thomas Jefferson

Humans are just not wired for eternal vigilance. Sheeple want to graze and don't want to think.

JGResearch , 8 hours ago

Money is just the tool, it goes much deeper:

The Truth, when you finally chase it down, is almost always far
worse than your darkest visions and fears.'

– Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear
'The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes' *

- Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

This information helps understand the shift to the bias we are witnessing at The PBS Newshour and the MSM. PBS has always taken their marching orders from the Council on Foreign Relations.

Some of the mebers of the CFR:

Joe Biden (47th Vice President of the United States )

Judy Woodruff, and Jim Lehrer (journalist, former anchor for PBS ) is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. John McCain (United States Republican Senator from Arizona , 2008 Republican Party nominee for the Presidency), William F. Buckley, Jr (commentator, publisher, founder of the National Review ), Jeffery E Epstein (financier)

https://www.cfr.org/membership/roster

The Council on Foreign Relations has historical control both the Democratic establishment and the Republican establishment until President Trump came along.

Until then they did not care who won the presidency because they control both parties at the top.

FYI: Hardly one person in 1000 ever heard of the Council on Foreign Relations ( CFR ). Until Trump both Republicans and Democrats control by the Eastern Establishment.There operational front was the Council on Foreign Relations. Historically they did not care who one the election since they controlled both parties from the top.

The CFR has only 3000 members yet they control over three-quarters of the nation's wealth. The CFR runs the State Department and the CIA. The CFR has placed 100 CFR members in every Presidential Administration and cabinet since Woodrow Wilson. They work together to misinform the President to act in the best interest of the CFR not the best interest of the American People.

At least five Presidents (Eisenhower, Ford, Carter, Bush, and Clinton) have been members of the CFR. The CFR has packed every Supreme court with CFR insiders.

Three CFR members (Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and Sandra Day O'Connor) sit on the supreme court. The CFR's British Counterpart is the Royal Institute of International Affairs. The members of these groups profit by creating tension and hate. Their targets include British and American citizens.

The CFR/RIIA method of operation is simple -- they control public opinion. They keep the identity of their group secret. They learn the likes and dislikes of influential people. They surround and manipulate them into acting in the best interest of the CFR/RIIA.

KuriousKat , 8 hours ago

there are 550 of them in the US..just boggles the mind they have us at each others throat instead of theirs.

jmNZ , 3 hours ago

This is why America's only hope is to vote for Ron Paul.

x_Maurizio , 2 hours ago

Let me understand how a system, which is already proven being disfunctional, should suddenly produce a positive result. That's craziness: to repeate the same action, with the conviction it will give a different result.

If you would say: "The only hope is NOT TO TAKE PART TO THE FARCE" (so not to vote) I'd understand.
But vot for that, instead of this.... what didn't you understand?

Voice-of-Reason , 6 hours ago

The very fact that we have billionaires who amass so much wealth that they can own our Republic is the problem.

Eastern Whale , 8 hours ago

all the names mentioned in this article is rotten to the core

MartinG , 5 hours ago

Tell me again how democracy is the greatest form of government. What other profession lets clueless idiots decide who runs the business.

Xena fobe , 4 hours ago

It isn't the fault of democracy. It's more the fault of voters.

quikwit , 3 hours ago

I'd pick the "clueless idiots" over an iron-fisted evil genius every time.

_triplesix_ , 8 hours ago

Am I the only one who noticed that Eric Zuesse capitalized the word "black" every time he used it?

F**k you, Eric, you Marxist trash.

BTCtroll , 7 hours ago

Confirmed. Blacks are apparently a proper noun despite being referred to as simply a color. In reality, no one cares. Ask anyone, they don't care expert black lies matter.

freedommusic , 4 hours ago

The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society , and we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings .

And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

Our way of life is under attack.

But we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding it's fear of influence, on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections , on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. It's preparations are concealed, not published. It's mistakes are buried, not headlined. It's dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned. No rumor is printed. No secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War in short with a wartime discipline, no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

...I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to re-examine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self restraint, which that danger imposes upon us all.

It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation and obligation which I share, and that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people, to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need and understand them as well, the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program, and the choices that we face.

I am not asking your newspapers to support an administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people, for I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens, whenever they are fully informed.

... that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment. The only business in America specifically protected by the constitution, not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply give the public what it wants, but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises, and our choices, to lead, mold, educate, and sometimes even anger, public opinion.

-- JFK

[Aug 02, 2020] Mail voting is a golden opportunity for the USA to return to paper ballots

Aug 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

juliania , Aug 1 2020 14:44 utc | 105

Mao @ 68

This is a golden opportunity, universal mail-in ballots, for the US to transition back to hand written ballots, counted by hand in public (masked, gloved and shielded, open air, social distancing) and accepting of all writeins for the top position, then safely held for any future recounts. This could be done precinct by precinct, or via appropriate other groupings, in a gradual manner, with no deadline as to when the final count would be tallied (It's the virus, you know; we the public shall be patient). It's doable! Observers could be chosen by lot (also out in the open). Twelve ought to do it, for each count. No Brooks Brothers are eligible.

I can't see where this would be anything but simple. A worthy matter to be decided publicly. You want to protest? This is worth protesting about! Organized by the people, for the people. And not any private firm picking up the ballots. Our long suffering public postal service is all we need, thank you!


juliania , Aug 1 2020 14:53 utc | 107

Grieved @ 72 and psychohistorian above that, I hadn't read your two excellent posts when I gave my bit on mailin ballots, but the same 'weltgeist' seems to be in play.

With the electoral vote being such a bone of contention ever since 2000 in the US, that top-down orchestration is even in play there, with core freedoms having been usurped as the power shifts were undertaken.

I would volunteer for this, and I would march for it also. I'm 80 this month - time to roll up my sleeves!

juliania , Aug 1 2020 15:40 utc | 115

This is from Lambert's Water Cooler yesterday at nakedcapitalism.com:-

• Imagine the timeline if Democrats had supported hand-marked paper ballots, hand-counted in public after the 2000 debacle. Now we have a system that's broken because both parties want the capacity to steal elections. They made their bed .

Also there is a podcast from Barack and Michelle Obama, both pictured. I would not have recognized her. (The picture of Dorian Grey does come to mind.)

Once again, weltgeist. I only just started reading the Watercooler. Lambert even sadly mentions the ailing Post Office, after paying appropriate attention to UPS. All other attention is on Red and Blue: up, up, up. TINA...

juliania , Aug 1 2020 15:53 utc | 117

This is indeed a very cool thing (kudos to Lambert again):

"...we have two types of immunity: innate immunity, which jumps into action within hours, sometimes just minutes, of an infection; and adaptive immunity, which develops over days and weeks . That antibodies decrease once an infection recedes isn't a sign that they are failing: It's a normal step in the usual course of an immune response. Nor does a waning antibody count mean waning immunity: The memory B cells that first produced those antibodies are still around, and standing ready to churn out new batches of antibodies on demand." • So, even if the bloodstream isn't full of antibodies, the body retains the recipes for them. That is extremely cool." [my bold]

And from the NYT this comes, so I guess Times readers profit from being mostly 'up'.

[Jun 16, 2020] The American elites wanted and, after the revolution got, the power to enrich themselves. Hence the birth of lobbyists simultaneous with the birth of the American nation state. IMO the constitution was about as meaningful to the leaders of the revolution as campaign promises are to contemporary politicians

Notable quotes:
"... The objective of the elites was to wrest control of resources eg land and/or timber plus so-called royal warrants that controlled who was allowed to produce, sell export products to who, grab allocation out of the control of the mobs of greedy royal favorites, then into the hands of the new American elites. ..."
"... The bagmen & courtiers grew fat at the expense of the colonists and generally the bagman, who also spied on the locals for obvious reasons, would go back to England once he had made his stash. ..."
"... The American elites wanted and, after the revolution got, the power to control economic development for themselves.Hence the birth of lobbyists simultaneous with the birth of the American nation state. ..."
"... IMO the constitution was about as meaningful to the leaders of the revolution as campaign promises are to contemporary politicians.That is, something to be used as self protection without ever implementing. ..."
Jun 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

A User , Jun 16 2020 3:36 utc | 87

I'm always amused, nah that is a little harsh - dumbfounded is more reasonable, when Americans express dismay that 'their' constitution is not being adhered to by the elites.

The minutiae of American political history hasn't greatly concerned me after a superficial study at high school, when I realized that the political structure is corrupt and was designed to facilitate corruption.

The seeming caring & sharing soundbites pushed out by the 'framers' scum such as Thomas Jefferson was purely for show, an attempt to gather the cannon fodder to one side. This was simple as the colonial media had been harping on about 'taxation without representation' for decades.

It wasn't just taxes, in fact for the American based elites that was likely the least of it. The objective of the elites was to wrest control of resources eg land and/or timber plus so-called royal warrants that controlled who was allowed to produce, sell export products to who, grab allocation out of the control of the mobs of greedy royal favorites, then into the hands of the new American elites.

A well placed courtier would put a bagman into the regional center of a particular colony (each colony becoming a 'state' post revolution), so that if someone wanted to, I dunno, say export huge quantities of cotton, the courtier would charge that 'colonial' for getting the initial warrant, then take a hefty % of the return on the product - all collected by the on-site bagman then divvied up.

The bagmen & courtiers grew fat at the expense of the colonists and generally the bagman, who also spied on the locals for obvious reasons, would go back to England once he had made his stash.

The system was ponderous inaccurate & very expensive. Something had to be done, but selling revolutionary change to the masses on the basis of the need to enrich the already wealthy was not likely to be a winner. Consequently the high faulting blather.

The American elites wanted and, after the revolution got, the power to control economic development for themselves.Hence the birth of lobbyists simultaneous with the birth of the American nation state.

IMO the constitution was about as meaningful to the leaders of the revolution as campaign promises are to contemporary politicians.That is, something to be used as self protection without ever implementing.

[Jun 11, 2020] The nearly complete corruption of the U.S. republican form of government has largely come about due to the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court in January 2010 that basically permitted unlimited donor-spending on political campaigns based on the principle that providing money, normally through a political action committee (PAC), is a form of free speech

Notable quotes:
"... No one has benefited from the new rules more than the state of Israel, whose hundreds of support organizations and principal billionaire funders euphemized as the "Israel Lobby" have entrenched pro-Israel donors as the principal financial resources of both major political parties. ..."
Jun 11, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Mao , Jun 11 2020 10:10 utc | 100

The nearly complete corruption of the U.S. republican form of government has largely come about due to the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court in January 2010 that basically permitted unlimited donor-spending on political campaigns based on the principle that providing money, normally through a political action committee (PAC), is a form of free speech. The decision paved the way for agenda-driven plutocrats and corporations to largely seize control of the formulation process for certain policies being promoted by the two national parties.

No one has benefited from the new rules more than the state of Israel, whose hundreds of support organizations and principal billionaire funders euphemized as the "Israel Lobby" have entrenched pro-Israel donors as the principal financial resources of both major political parties.

https://ahtribune.com/us/israelgate/4206-ilhan-omar-surrenders.html

[Jun 09, 2020] Without proper Debate system there can be no democracy

But how it can be any, when big money controls everything ?
Jun 09, 2020 | www.unz.com

Robjil , says: June 8, 2020 at 12:03 pm GMT

The western world's biggest problem is the lack and the fear of Athenian Debate.

The west touts the word "Democracy" like crazy. It came from the ancient Greeks.

Yet, the west forgets the biggest part of Athenian Democracy. It is Athenian Debate.

Without Athenian Debate in the west, there are no Democracies in the west.

anonymous coward , says: June 8, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT
@Robjil

The western world's biggest problem is the lack and the fear of Athenian Debate.

Pretty sure there's quite a few ones bigger.

[Apr 19, 2020] Plutocratic Primary Challenger

Apr 19, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

shinola , April 16, 2020 at 3:34 pm

From The Intercept article "Wall Street Titans Finance Democratic Primary Challenger To Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez"

"Freedom and democracy are best secured when banking secrecy and tax havens exist," Caruso-Cabrera wrote.

"Plutocratic Primary Challenger" would be more apropos.

edmondo , April 16, 2020 at 7:23 pm

MCC is married to a VC multi-millionaire. To have hubby's business friends throw a couple hundred grand at her is unsurprising. It's kind of like when your kid has to sell chocolate bars so the marching band to go to the Thanksgiving Day parade. I doubt she'll get a thousand votes. It's a lark and great fun to talk about over cocktails with the other Masters of the Universe.

But then again Claire Booth Luce was a Congressperson but she had the good taste to run in Connecticut not the Bronx.

[Apr 17, 2020] "Neofeudalism by design" is what I call the Money Power which the Central Bank and the Princely Class of banksters

Notable quotes:
"... the Money Power, which is the collective term for the Central Bank and the "Princely Class" within the Outlaw US Empire. And their critique about Sanders, Biden and "Progressives" I agree with 100%. ..."
Apr 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Apr 15 2020 23:23 utc | 76

teatree @71--

I see you're busy spreading BigLies. Please, jump out of your tree onto your head. Thanks.

"Neofeudalism by design" is today's Keiser Report Mantra --Max and Stacy present an excellent argument that tries to inform people about what I call the Money Power, which is the collective term for the Central Bank and the "Princely Class" within the Outlaw US Empire. And their critique about Sanders, Biden and "Progressives" I agree with 100%.

Become enlightened and watch at the link.

[Apr 10, 2020] On Biden winning primaries

Apr 10, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Doug Boone , 19 hours ago

8 out of 10 Voting Machines, prefer Oligarchy.

[Mar 17, 2020] Biden Wins! Illinois News Station Airs Election Results Day Before Primary

Mar 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (2030ET) : Surprise! AP is reporting that Joe Biden has won the Illinois Democratic Primary ... just as WCIA reported... yesterday

* * *

An Illinois news station accidentally aired election day results on Monday showing former Vice President Joe Biden winning Tuesday 's primary election .

Station WCIA aired the results during a Monday showing of The Price Is Right , indicating Biden defeating Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) by over 93,000 votes.

"While watching The Price is Right our station accidentally runs tomorrow's election results its [sic] Monday our election in Illinois is tomorrow," said Sherry Daughtery, who posted a video of the incident. Station Bureau Chief Mark Maxwell said that it was nothing more than a "routine test" rehearsal, and that airing the dry run was an error, according to Breitbart News .

We do routine test rehearsals before every election to make sure the graphics work properly and to give directors some practice. The error was in putting the dry run on air. That shouldn't have happened and we're looking into it. Obviously, we never intended to give the wrong information or wrong impression . None of those numbers were based on any real polling returns. Since your post is being widely shared, I'd appreciate it if you would consider updating the original post so people don't get the wrong idea. -Mark Maxwell via Sherry Daughtery

Why does this seem to happen just about every election?

[Mar 16, 2020] Half Of Young American Democrats Believe Billionaires Do More Harm Than Good

Notable quotes:
"... Wealth concentration is extreme to say the least... ..."
"... "The billionaire class is 'up there' because they are standing on our backs pinning us down." ..."
Mar 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Half Of Young American Democrats Believe Billionaires Do More Harm Than Good by Tyler Durden Sun, 03/15/2020 - 21:25 With income inequality the political hot potato du-jour and wealth concentration at its most extreme since the roaring twenties, is it any wonder that even Americans' view of what used to be called 'success' is now tainted with the ugly taste of partisan 'not-fair'-ism.

Income inequality is roaring...

Wealth concentration is extreme to say the least...

But still, according to Pew Research's latest survey , when asked about the impact of billionaires on the country, nearly four-in-ten adults under age 30 (39%) say the fact that some have fortunes of a billion dollars or more is a bad thing...

...with 50% of young Democrats.

"The recent reigning conventional wisdom over the last several decades of what I call the 'Age of Capital' is that [billionaires] are 'up there' because they are smarter than us," said Anand Giridharadas, author of "Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World."

But the Pew data, he says, suggest that young Americans are concluding that billionaires have amassed their wealth "through their rigging of the tax code, through legal political bribery, through their tax avoidance in shelters like the Cayman Islands, and through lobbying for public policy that benefits them privately. "

"Bernie Sanders taught a lot of people [about wealth inequality], including people who did not vote for him," Giridharadas said.

"The billionaire class is 'up there' because they are standing on our backs pinning us down."

The good news - for the rest of America's "capitalists" - is that a majority (58%) say the impact of billionaires on America is neither bad nor good.

Finally, one quick question - where were all these under-30s when Bernie needed them the most in the Primaries? Was it all just virtue-signaling pro-socialist bullshit after all?

[Mar 16, 2020] Change is not acceptable to a democratic party joined at the hip to the republican party, both completely subservient to monied interests

There seems to be a faction that insists on getting Sanders out of the race. The interesting thing is who is not supporting this
Mar 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Noah Way , Mar 15 2020 23:48 utc | 44
Sanders never had a chance because he represents the majority on almost every issue. That is not acceptable to a democratic party joined at the hip to the republican party, both completely subservient to monied interests.

Exits polls in SC, CA, and MA showed large discrepancies in Biden's favor, well out of the margin of error. If the vote count reflected the exit polls Sanders would be well ahead in delegates. The US uses exit polls as a test of validity of foreign elections, but for some reason does not apply that methodology here. Duh.

Nothing new here. In 2006 Clinton Curtis testified in congress about election hacking in Ohio in 2004 where exits polls were wildly different than the final count. The Iowa caucus app debacle was a more visible demonstration of the hacking. No need for superdelegates now, Sleepy Joe has been selected to assure another 4 years of Trump or Trump-like policies.

[Mar 12, 2020] How 'Bernie Bros' Were Invented, Then Smeared as Sexist, Racist and unAmerican as Borscht by Jonathan Cook

Looks like DNC run a pretty sophisticated smear campaign against Sanders ...
Notable quotes:
"... It really isn't about who the candidates are – hurtful as that may sound to some in our identity-saturated times. It is about what the candidate might try to do once in office. In truth, the very fact that nowadays we are allowed to focus on identity to our heart's content should be warning enough that the establishment is only too keen for us to exhaust our energies in promoting divisions based on those identities ..."
"... The Republican and Democratic leaderships are there to ensure that, before a candidate gets selected to compete in the parties' name, he or she has proven they are power-friendly. Two candidates, each vetted for obedience to power. ..."
Mar 12, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org

The Democratic presidential nomination race is a fascinating case study in how power works – not least, because the Democratic party leaders are visibly contriving to impose one candidate, Joe Biden, as the party's nominee, even as it becomes clear that he is no longer mentally equipped to run a local table tennis club let alone the world's most powerful nation.

Biden's campaign is a reminder that power is indivisible. Donald Trump or Joe Biden for president – it doesn't matter to the power-establishment. An egomaniacal man-child (Trump), representing the billionaires, or an elder suffering rapid neurological degeneration (Biden), representing the billionaires, are equally useful to power. A woman will do too, or a person of colour. The establishment is no longer worried about who stands on stage – so long as that person is not a Bernie Sanders in the US, or a Jeremy Corbyn in the UK.

It really isn't about who the candidates are – hurtful as that may sound to some in our identity-saturated times. It is about what the candidate might try to do once in office. In truth, the very fact that nowadays we are allowed to focus on identity to our heart's content should be warning enough that the establishment is only too keen for us to exhaust our energies in promoting divisions based on those identities. What concerns it far more is that we might overcome those divisions and unify against it, withdrawing our consent from an establishment committed to endless asset-stripping of our societies and the planet.

Neither Biden nor Trump will obstruct the establishment, because they are at its very heart. The Republican and Democratic leaderships are there to ensure that, before a candidate gets selected to compete in the parties' name, he or she has proven they are power-friendly. Two candidates, each vetted for obedience to power.

Although a pretty face or a way with words are desirable, incapacity and incompetence are no barrier to qualifying, as the two white men groomed by their respective parties demonstrate. Both have proved they will favour the establishment, both will pursue near-enough the same policies , both are committed to the status quo, both have demonstrated their indifference to the future of life on Earth. What separates the candidates is not real substance, but presentation styles – the creation of the appearance of difference, of choice.

Policing the debate

The subtle dynamics of how the Democratic nomination race is being rigged are interesting. Especially revealing are the ways the Democratic leadership protects establishment power by policing the terms of debate: what can be said, and what can be thought; who gets to speak and whose voices are misrepresented or demonised. Manipulation of language is key.

As I pointed out in my previous post , the establishment's power derives from its invisibility. Scrutiny is kryptonite to power.

The only way we can interrogate power is through language, and the only way we can communicate our conclusions to others is through words – as I am doing right now. And therefore our strength – our ability to awaken ourselves from the trance of power – must be subverted by the establishment, transformed into our Achilles' heel, a weakness.

The treatment of Bernie Sanders and his supporters by the Democratic establishment – and those who eagerly repeat its talking points – neatly illustrates how this can be done in manifold ways.

Remember this all started back in 2016, when Sanders committed the unforgivable sin of challenging the Democratic leadership's right simply to anoint Hillary Clinton as the party's presidential candidate. In those days, the fault line was obvious and neat: Bernie was a man, Clinton a woman. She would be the first woman president. The only party members who might wish to deny her that historic moment, and back Sanders instead, had to be misogynist men. They were supposedly venting their anti-women grudge against Clinton, who in turn was presented to women as a symbol of their oppression by men.

And so was born a meme: the "Bernie Bros". It rapidly became shorthand for suggesting – contrary to all evidence – that Sanders' candidacy appealed chiefly to angry, entitled white men. In fact, as Sanders' 2020 run has amply demonstrated, support for him has been more diverse than for the many other Democratic candidates who sought the nomination.

So important what @ewarren is saying to @maddow about the dangerous, threatening, ugly faction among the Bernie supporters. Sanders either cannot or will not control them. pic.twitter.com/LYDXlLJ7bi

-- Mia Farrow (@MiaFarrow) March 6, 2020

How contrived the 2016 identity-fuelled contest was should have been clear, had anyone been allowed to point that fact out. This wasn't really about the Democratic leadership respecting Clinton's identity as a woman. It was about them paying lip service to her identity as a woman, while actually promoting her because she was a reliable warmonger and Wall Street functionary . She was useful to power.

If the debate had really been driven by identity politics, Sanders had a winning card too: he is Jewish. That meant he could be the United States' first Jewish president. In a fair identity fight, it would have been a draw between the two. The decision about who should represent the Democratic party would then have had to be decided based on policies, not identity. But party leaders did not want Clinton's actual policies, or her political history, being put under the microscope for very obvious reasons.

Weaponisation of identity

The weaponisation of identity politics is even more transparent in 2020. Sanders is still Jewish, but his main opponent, Joe Biden, really is simply a privileged white man. Were the Clinton format to be followed again by Democratic officials, Sanders would enjoy an identity politics trump card. And yet Sanders is still being presented as just another white male candidate , no different from Biden.

(We could take this argument even further and note that the other candidate who no one, least of all the Democratic leadership, ever mentions as still in the race is Tulsi Gabbard, a woman of colour. The Democratic party has worked hard to make her as invisible as possible in the primaries because, of all the candidates, she is the most vocal and articulate opponent of foreign wars. That has deprived her of the chance to raise funds and win delegates.)

. @DanaPerino I'm not quite sure why you're telling FOX viewers that Elizabeth Warren is the last female candidate in the Dem primary. Is it because you believe a fake indigenous woman of color is "real" and the real indigenous woman of color in this race is fake? pic.twitter.com/VKCxy2JzFe

-- Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard) March 3, 2020

Sanders' Jewish identity isn't celebrated because he isn't useful to the power-establishment. What's far more important to them – and should be to us too – are his policies, which might limit their power to wage war, exploit workers and trash the planet.

But it is not just that Democratic Party leaders are ignoring Sanders' Jewish identity. They are also again actively using identity politics against him, and in many different ways.

The 'black' establishment?

Bernie Sanders' supporters have been complaining for some time – based on mounting evidence – that the Democratic leadership is far from neutral between Sanders and Biden. Because it has a vested interest in the outcome, and because it is the part of the power-establishment, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) is exercising its influence in favour of Biden. And because power prefers darkness, the DNC is doing its best to exercise that power behind the scenes, out of sight – at least, unseen by those who still rely on the "mainstream" corporate media, which is also part of the power-establishment. As should be clear to anyone watching, the nomination proceedings are being controlled to give Biden every advantage and to obstruct Sanders.

But the Democratic leadership is not only dismissing out of hand these very justified complaints from Bernie Sanders' supporters but also turning these complaints against them, as further evidence of their – and his – illegitimacy. A new way of doing this emerged in the immediate wake of Biden winning South Carolina on the back of strong support from older black voters – Biden's first state win and a launchpad for his Super Tuesday bid a few days later.

It was given perfect expression from Symone Sanders, who despite her surname is actually a senior adviser to Biden's campaign. She is also black. This is what she wrote: "People who keep referring to Black voters as 'the establishment' are tone deaf and have obviously learned nothing."

People who keep referring to Black voters as "the establishment" are tone deaf and have obviously learned nothing.

-- Symone D. Sanders (@SymoneDSanders) March 3, 2020

Her reference to generic "people" was understood precisely by both sides of the debate as code for those "Bernie Bros". Now, it seems, Bernie Sanders' supporters are not simply misogynists, they are potential recruits to the Ku Klux Klan.

The tweet went viral, even though in the fiercely contested back-and-forth below her tweet no one could produce a single example of anyone actually saying anything like the sentiment ascribed by Symone Sanders to "Bernie Bros". But then, tackling bigotry was not her real goal. This wasn't meant to be a reflection on a real-world talking-point by Bernie supporters. It was high-level gaslighting by a senior Democratic party official of the party's own voters.

Survival of the fittest smear

What Symone Sanders was really trying to do was conceal power – the fact that the DNC is seeking to impose its chosen candidate on party members. As occurred during the confected women-men, Clinton vs "Bernie Bros" confrontation, Symone Sanders was field-testing a similar narrative management tool as part of the establishment's efforts to hone it for improved effect. The establishment has learnt – through a kind of survival of the fittest smear – that divide-and-rule identity politics is the perfect way to shield its influence as it favours a status-quo candidate (Biden or Clinton) over a candidate seen as a threat to its power (Sanders).

In her tweet, Symone Sanders showed exactly how the power elite seeks to obscure its toxic role in our societies. She neatly conflated "the establishment" – of which she is a very small, but well-paid component – with ordinary "black voters". Her message is this: should you try to criticise the establishment (which has inordinate power to damage lives and destroy the planet) we will demonise you, making it seem that you are really attacking black people (who in the vast majority of cases – though Symone Sanders is a notable exception – wield no power at all).

Symone Sanders has recruited her own blackness and South Carolina's "black voters" as a ring of steel to protect the establishment. Cynically, she has turned poor black people, as well as the tens of thousands of people (presumably black and white) who liked her tweet, into human shields for the establishment.

It sounds a lot uglier put like that. But it has rapidly become a Biden talking-point, as we can see here:

NEW: @JoeBiden responds to @berniesanders saying the "establishment" is trying to defeat him.

"The establishment are all those hardworking, middle class people, those African Americans they are the establishment!" @CBSNews pic.twitter.com/43Q2Nci5sS

-- Bo Erickson CBS (@BoKnowsNews) March 4, 2020

The DNC's wider strategy is to confer on Biden exclusive rights to speak for black voters (despite his inglorious record on civil rights issues) and, further, to strip Sanders and his senior black advisers of any right to do so. When Sanders protests about this, or about racist behaviour from the Biden camp, Biden's supporters come out in force and often abusively, though of course no one is upbraiding them for their ugly, violent language. Here is the famous former tennis player Martina Navratilova showing that maybe we should be talking about "Biden Bros":

Sanders is starting to really piss me off. Just shut this kind of crap down and debate the issues. This is not it.

-- Martina Navratilova (@Martina) March 6, 2020

Being unkind to billionaires

This kind of special pleading by the establishment for the establishment – using those sections of it, such as Symone Sanders, that can tap into the identity politics zeitgeist – is far more common than you might imagine. The approach is being constantly refined, often using social media as the ultimate focus group. Symone Sanders' successful conflation of the establishment with "black voters" follows earlier, clumsier efforts by the establishment to protect its interests against Sanders that proved far less effective.

Billionaires should not exist. https://t.co/hgR6CeFvLa

-- Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) September 24, 2019

Remember how last autumn the billionaire-owned corporate media tried to tell us that it was unkind to criticise billionaires – that they had feelings too and that speaking harshly about them was "dehumanising". Again it was aimed at Sanders, who had just commented that in a properly ordered world billionaires simply wouldn't exist. It was an obvious point: allowing a handful of people to control almost all the planet's wealth was not only depriving the rest of us of that wealth (and harming the planet) but it gave those few billionaires way too much power. They could buy all the media, our channels of communication, and most of the politicians to ringfence their financial interests, gradually eroding even the most minimal democratic protections.

That campaign died a quick death because few of us are actually brainwashed enough to accept the idea that a handful of billionaires share an identity that needs protecting – from us! Most of us are still connected enough to the real world to understand that billionaires are more than capable of looking out for their own interests, without our helping them by imposing on ourselves a vow of silence.

But one cannot fault the power-establishment for being constantly inventive in the search for new ways to stifle our criticisms of the way it unilaterally exercises its power. The Democratic nomination race is testing such ingenuity to the limits. Here's a new rule against "hateful conduct" on Twitter, where Biden's neurological deficit is being subjected to much critical scrutiny through the sharing of dozens of videos of embarrassing Biden "senior moments".

Twitter expanding its hateful conduct rules "to include language that dehumanizes on the basis of age, disability or disease." https://t.co/KmWGaNAG9Z

-- Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 5, 2020

Yes, disability and age are identities too. And so, on the pretext of protecting and respecting those identities, social media can now be scrubbed of anything and anyone trying to highlight the mental deficiencies of an old man who might soon be given the nuclear codes and would be responsible for waging wars in the name of Americans. Twitter is full of comments denouncing as "ableist" anyone who tries to highlight how the Democratic leadership is foisting a cognitively challenged Biden on to the party.

Maybe the Dem insiders are all wrong, but it's true that they are saying it. Some are saying it out loud, including Castro at the debate and Booker here: https://t.co/0lbi7RFRqG

-- Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) March 6, 2020

Russian 'agents' and 'assets'

None of this is to overlook the fact that another variation of identity politics has been weaponised against Sanders: that of failing to be an "American" patriot. Again illustrating how closely the Democratic and Republican leaderships' interests align, the question of who is a patriot – and who is really working for the "Russians" – has been at the heart of both parties' campaigns, though for different reasons.

Trump has been subjected to endless, evidence-free claims that he is a secret "Russian agent" in a concerted effort to control his original isolationist foreign policy impulses that might have stripped the establishment – and its military-industrial wing – of the right to wage wars of aggression, and revive the Cold War, wherever it believes a profit can be made under cover of "humanitarian intervention". Trump partly inoculated himself against these criticisms, at least among supporters, with his "Make America Great Again" slogan, and partly by learning – painfully for such an egotist – that his presidential role was to rubber-stamp decisions made elsewhere about waging wars and projecting US power.

I'm just amazed by this tweet, which has been tweeted plenty. Did @_nalexander and all the people liking this not know that Mueller laid out in the indictments of a number of Russians and in his report their help on social media to Sanders and Trump. Help Sanders has acknowledged https://t.co/vuc0lmvvKP

-- Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) December 8, 2019

Bernie Sanders has faced similar smear efforts by the establishment, including by the DNC's last failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton – in his case, painting him as a "Russian asset". ("Asset" is a way to suggest collusion with the Kremlin based on even more flimsy evidence than is needed to accuse someone of being an agent.) In fact, in a world where identity politics wasn't simply a tool to be weaponised by the establishment, there would be real trepidation about engaging in this kind of invective against a Jewish socialist.

One of the far-right's favourite antisemitic tropes – promoted ever since the publication of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion more than 100 years ago – is that Jewish "Bolsheviks" are involved in an international conspiracy to subvert the countries they live in. We have reached the point now that the corporate media are happy to recycle evidence-free claims, cited by the Washington Post, from anonymous "US officials" and US intelligence agencies reinventing a US version of the Protocols against Sanders. And these smears have elicited not a word of criticism from the Democratic leadership nor from the usual antisemitism watchdogs that are so ready to let rip over the slightest signs of what they claim to be antisemitism on the left.

But the urgency of dealing with Sanders may be the reason normal conventions have been discarded. Sanders isn't a loud-mouth egotist like Trump. A vote for Trump is a vote for the establishment, if for one of its number who pretends to be against the establishment. Trump has been largely tamed in time for a second term. By contrast, Sanders, like Corbyn in the UK, is more dangerous because he may resist the efforts to domesticate him, and because if he is allowed any significant measure of political success – such as becoming a candidate for president – it may inspire others to follow in his footsteps. The system might start to throw up more anomalies, more AOCs and more Ilhan Omars.

So Sanders is now being cast, like Trump, as a puppet of the Kremlin, not a true American. And because he made the serious mistake of indulging the "Russiagate" smears when they were used against Trump, Sanders now has little defence against their redeployment against him. And given that, by the impoverished standards of US political culture, he is considered an extreme leftist, it has been easy to conflate his democratic socialism with Communism, and then conflate his supposed Communism with acting on behalf of the Kremlin (which, of course, ignores the fact that Russia long ago abandoned Communism).

Sen. Bernie Sanders: "Let me tell this to Putin -- the American people, whether Republicans, Democrats, independents are sick and tired of seeing Russia and other countries interfering in our elections." pic.twitter.com/ejcP7YVFlt

-- The Hill (@thehill) February 21, 2020

Antisemitism smear at the ready

There is a final use of weaponised identity politics that the Democratic establishment would dearly love to use against Sanders, if they need to and can get away with it. It is the most toxic brand – and therefore the most effective – of the identity-based smears, and it has been extensively field-tested in the UK against Jeremy Corbyn to great success. The DNC would like to denounce Sanders as an antisemite.

In fact, only one thing has held them back till now: the fact that Sanders is Jewish. That may not prove an insuperable obstacle, but it does make it much harder to make the accusation look credible. The other identity-based smears had been a second-best, a make-do until a way could be found to unleash the antisemitism smear.

The establishment has been testing the waters with implied accusations of antisemitism against Sanders for a while, but their chances were given a fillip recently when Sanders refused to participate in the annual jamboree of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a prominent lobby group whose primary mission is to ringfence Israel from criticism in the US. Both the Republican and Democratic establishments turn out in force to the AIPAC conference, and in the past the event has attracted keynote speeches from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

But Sanders has refused to attend for decades and maintained that stance this month, even though he is a candidate for the Democratic nomination. In the last primaries debate, Sanders justified his decision by rightly calling Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu a "racist" and by describing AIPAC as providing a platform "for leaders who express bigotry and oppose basic Palestinian rights".

Trump's Vice-President, Mike Pence, responded that Sanders supported "Israel's enemies" and, if elected, would be the "most anti-Israel president in the history of this nation" – all coded suggestions that Sanders is antisemitic.

But that's Mike Pence. More useful criticism came from billionaire Mike Bloomberg, who is himself Jewish and was until last week posing as a Democrat to try to win the party's nomination. Bloomberg accused Sanders of using dehumanising language against a bunch of inclusive identities that, he improbably suggested, AIPAC represents. He claimed :

"This is a gathering of 20,000 Israel supporters of every religious denomination, ethnicity, faith, color, sexual identity and political party. Calling it a racist platform is an attempt to discredit those voices, intimidate people from coming here, and weaken the US-Israel relationship."

Where might this head? At the AIPAC conference last week we were given a foretaste. Ephraim Mirvis, the chief rabbi of the UK and a friend to Conservative government leader Boris Johnson, was warmly greeted by delegates, including leading members of the Democratic establishment. He boasted that he and other Jewish leaders in the UK had managed to damage Jeremy Corbyn's electoral chances by suggesting that he was an antisemite over his support, like Sanders, for Palestinian rights.

His own treatment of Corbyn, he argued, offered a model for US Jewish organisations to replicate against any leadership contender who might pose similar trouble for Israel, leaving it for his audience to pick up the not-so-subtle hint about who needed to be subjected to character assassination.

WATCH: "Today I issue a call to the Jews of America, please take a leaf out of our book and please speak with one voice."

The Chief Rabbi speaking to the 18,000 delegates gathered at the @AIPAC General Session at their Policy Conference in Washington DC pic.twitter.com/BOkan9RA2O

-- Chief Rabbi Mirvis (@chiefrabbi) March 3, 2020

Establishment playbook

For anyone who isn't wilfully blind, the last few months have exposed the establishment playbook: it will use identity politics to divide those who might otherwise find a united voice and a common cause.

There is nothing wrong with celebrating one's identity, especially if it is under threat, maligned or marginalised. But having an attachment to an identity is no excuse for allowing it to be coopted by billionaires, by the powerful, by nuclear-armed states oppressing other people, by political parties or by the corporate media, so that they can weaponise it to prevent the weak, the poor, the marginalised from being represented.

It is time for us to wake up to the tricks, the deceptions, the manipulations of the strong that exploit our weaknesses – and make us yet weaker still. It's time to stop being a patsy for the establishment. Join the debate on Facebook More articles by: Jonathan Cook

Jonathan Cook won the Martha Gellhorn Special Prize for Journalism. His latest books are " Israel and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the Plan to Remake the Middle East" (Pluto Press) and " Disappearing Palestine: Israel's Experiments in Human Despair " (Zed Books). His website is http://www.jonathan-cook.net/

[Mar 12, 2020] Will the DNC ever acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard exists?

Notable quotes:
"... One almost feels sorry for Bernie Sanders, who, even at this late stage, still seems to believe that he can drag Joe Biden to the 'left' and secure something/anything? for all those millions of ordinary Americans who supported Bernie's dream of a more just and equal America. ..."
"... Poor Bernie and poor ordinary Americans. It ain't gonna work. Bernie knows that the Demorcratic party has chosen Biden, not him and his political dream is over, once again. ..."
"... With Joe having these " miraculous " wins in the primaries yet bringing nothing new to the table I can only conclude we are set for another 4 yrs of Trumpelstiltskin and his money grubbing ways. ..."
"... Tulsi is inspirational. I'm not talking 'politics' but regarding her willingness to speak truth to corruption. ..."
"... The self-evident externalities of 40 years of unfettered neoliberalism (war, lies, injustice, extreme wealth inequality, etc) now seem to be approaching some sort of explosive end-point. ..."
"... These problems are too entrenched for real politicians to sort out, so what we have instead is a form theatre, albeit a third-rate form of theatre with abysmal actors taking on roles that are far too difficult for them: Trump vs Biden would be the apotheosis this morass. ..."
"... As it turned out, the security state's narrative was easy to pull off because Sander is weak, lacks courage, and was never in it to win it. He never fought back against the DNC. ..."
"... He never called out the cheating in Iowa. There were thousands of volunteers that would be willing to protest on his behalf. Timid Bernie just let it go. ..."
"... Instead Bernie, kept saying "Biden is my good friend" or "Biden can beat Trump." WTF, if Biden can beat Trump then why are you running? Are you campaigning for Biden? ..."
"... The final nail was Tulsi's tweet asking for Biden and Bernie's support for her to right to participate in the next debate. Yang and Marianne Williamson tweeted yes of course, but Bernie was silent. On subsequent mainstream media news appearances Bernie totally ignored Tulsi's candidacy. That was it – Bernie is a lackey – completely intimidated by the DNC. ..."
"... "Former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg is a top contender to head up the World Bank. Bloomberg endorsed Biden immediately after dropping out of the 2020 race. ..."
"... Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts as Treasury secretary. Warren dropped out of the race last week after disappointing losses on Super Tuesday but hasn't yet made an endorsement. Axios reported that Warren's name had been floated as part of an effort to unite the fractured Democratic Party around Biden. Some of Biden's advisers have also suggested Warren as a vice-presidential candidate for that reason. ..."
"... Seems Bernie has reprised his role as sheep dog. Probably the reason the Orwellian DNC unpersoned Tulsi is that she probably refused to play. ..."
"... Hundreds of thousands of ballots in California and Texas were discarded. Warren purposely stayed in the race to screw Bernie in Minnesota and Massachusetts, while Klobuchar and Buttigeg dropped out to prop-up Biden. ..."
"... And as I mentioned, Bernie is his own worst enemy, or as I also speculated he was never in it to win it. ..."
"... Blackmail ? The Clinton campaign exercising leverage over Sanders during the election – Podesta/wikileaks emails. 'This isn't in keeping w the agreement. Since we clearly have some leverage, would be good to flag this for him'. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/47397 ..."
"... Unfortunately. Trump may end up botching the corona crisis and lose, but whoever wins it's going to be four more years of everything getting worse. ..."
"... Some research on 'possible' fraudulent hidden computer counting from first super Tuesday. http://tdmsresearch.com/ ..."
Mar 12, 2020 | off-guardian.org

The handful of American citizens who have by some miracle escaped the wave of death caused by the coronavirus will be braving the toilet-paper maddened crowds to vote in the latest round of Democratic primaries today.

There's several more rounds of voting before the convention in July, but this is the last before the next debate on March 15th.

The process is kinda moot at this point.

The weight of the establishment has thrown itself – for some reason – behind Joe Biden.

Since his "miraculous" wins on Super Tuesday we've been treated to dozens of stories praising his "decency", happy that "angry politics" lost, and calling for the party to "unite behind" Biden . And that's just The Guardian .

Jonathan Freedland, in his special brand of smug establishment boot-licking, suggested that Biden being a long-term establishment democrat is his strength in these times of crisis. You have to wonder if that crisis wasn't awful convenient for Joe, in that instance.

None of the mainstream media have questioned the validity of results or the fairness of the electoral process, although given the DNC's history you'd be forgiven for doing so.

After Biden's win, Trump immediately went on the offensive (so to speak), questioning Biden's mental acuity . This is likely just a taste of things to come.

It has to be said, Biden is vulnerable in this area. Seeing as he seemingly can't go a single public appearance without forgetting what day it is , what position he's running for , the words of the Declaration of Independence , who his wife is , or his own name .

Given this, you have to wonder what the point of the exercise is. Biden will likely be mauled by Trump, so are the Democrats even trying to win? Is the plan for Biden to have "health problems" before the convention, forcing the DNC to pick its own candidate? Or is the plan to have him run, win and then get Ned Starked by his vice-president whoever he or (more likely) she may be?

Whatever the plan turns out to be, progressives and leftists all over America will likely be disappointed in Bernie. If last time is anything to go by, no matter how obviously he (and more importantly his voters) get screwed over, Sanders will just let it happen.

It seems like Bernie is a serial offender here. Setting up hope only to fold faster than Superman on laundry day when the pressure is on. You wonder if he's being used as a tool to engage the youth vote, or just a puppet designed to funnel all real leftist thinkers into a political cul-de-sac.

The other Great White Hope of American leftists – or should that be "Great Native American hope"? – Elizabeth Warren, dropped out last week but is yet to endorse her fellow "progressive", Bernie Sanders. This could mean she's spiteful, or it could mean she's angling to be Biden's VP nominee. Either way, no real surprise and no real loss. Warren always talked a better game than she played and she didn't talk all that well.

Oh, and the DNC changed their debate eligibility rules to exclude Tulsi Gabbard . Something both the other candidates and the vast majority of the mainstream media have been quiet about.

Questions arise

Are the democrats really rallying behind Joe Biden? why?! Are they planning to throw the race? Is Joe Biden going senile? Who will each candidate pick as a running mate? Will the DNC ever acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard exists?

NOBTS ,

If Bernie is real; ie. not sheep-dogging for Hillary again, he can prove it by dropping out immediately and throwing his delegates to Tulsi so she can debate Joe Biden on Sunday; then watch the fur fly. .last chance for the left.
Seriously, the only positive play left for Bernie, (if positive change is his intent )would be to immediately drop out and throw a "Hail Tulsi Pass" downfield ahead of the Sunday debate.

michaelk ,

One would imagine that Tulsi Gabbard would tick all the liberal/left boxes and virtues the Guardian pretends to adore and aspire to. She seems almost too perfect in my eyes another story perhaps? Anyway, one wonders what all those politically correct and so obvioulsy woke feminist ladies at the Guardian have against Tulsi? The Guardian seems to have decided that its future lies overseas, in America, which is very odd for a newspaper/platform based in the UK? Consequently, they are increasingly obsessed with moving closer and closer to the Democrat party in the US.

This is like the BBC that keeps talking to Americans about absolutely everything of importance that happens in the world and seeking their insights and opinions to a truly remarkably degree, considering how little they know and understand about the rest of the world and how poor they are at foreign languages and historical knowledge. Christ they know next to nothing about their own history, let alone the rest of the world! The idea that all these Americans are authorities on the world is ridiculous.

Harry Stotle ,

The ghosting of Gabbard illustrates how the MSM act in concert, and how they look after their own, i.e. backing those understand their role as puppets for corporate backers.

It also illustrates how the likes of the Guardian turn identity politics off and on like a tap, but more importantly how even shibboleths like identity politics are still secondary to an economic model that has placed us on the road to armegeddon.

Maxine ,

Well, Tulsi is FAR from "too perfect" .She voluntarily took part in the Bush/Cheny invasion of Iraq .How could anybody with a working mind have believed the lies of these nortorious criminals? .And what sort of judgement did this show? .Just as bad, she is a big fan of India's monstrous Right-Wing leader, Modi .Nevertheless, the DNC's throwing her out of the debate is another hideous sign of its corruption .Like her or not, she should have her opinions heard by the public.

Maxine ,

Don't get me wrong, I find the Gaurdian as despicable as CNN, MSNBC, FOX, the NYT and the rest of the American MSM .OffG is a god-send.

Admin2 ,

Thanks Maxine!

michaelk ,

One almost feels sorry for Bernie Sanders, who, even at this late stage, still seems to believe that he can drag Joe Biden to the 'left' and secure something/anything? for all those millions of ordinary Americans who supported Bernie's dream of a more just and equal America.

Poor Bernie and poor ordinary Americans. It ain't gonna work. Bernie knows that the Demorcratic party has chosen Biden, not him and his political dream is over, once again.

Now it's all about stopping the 'monster' Trump first and foremost. The coming election won't actually be about anything of real substance, nothing like Bernie's political ideas about healthcare and education; but it'll be a crass referendum about Trump's personality. Biden, of course, doesn't really have a personality anymore, that's going fast, along with his mental capacity.

Trump will smash him to pieces and be re-elected again. Four more years, at least.

Maxine ,

I would have voted for Bernie in 2016 if the DNC hadn't rigged the primary on behalf of Hillary .But I was overwhelmingly disappointed that he in the end supported her .Sadly, I am appalled that once again he announced he would support Biden if the latter won the primary this time. How could he?. Hillary and Biden are diametrically opposed to every one of Sander's professed principles!

Andy ,

With Joe having these " miraculous " wins in the primaries yet bringing nothing new to the table I can only conclude we are set for another 4 yrs of Trumpelstiltskin and his money grubbing ways.

As for Michelle Obama coming into the fight , I can only laugh and carry on with my life. I fail to see what she has to offer, other than being Barry's wife. Not really awe – inspiring stuff. Young Hilary must be turning in her coffin at the thought of being pipped to the post, as the first female President by another ex presidents wife.

We truly are living in bizarro times. The men behind the curtain must be laughing their collective arses off at the results of this circus they have created.

binra ,

Tulsi is inspirational. I'm not talking 'politics' but regarding her willingness to speak truth to corruption.

harry stotle ,

America dispensed with the idea of democracy some time ago.

The self-evident externalities of 40 years of unfettered neoliberalism (war, lies, injustice, extreme wealth inequality, etc) now seem to be approaching some sort of explosive end-point.

There may be a full blown international conflict, rather than asymmetrical power used to intimidate weaker states (led by the USA, and backed to the hilt by Britain, Israel, and KSA).

These problems are too entrenched for real politicians to sort out, so what we have instead is a form theatre, albeit a third-rate form of theatre with abysmal actors taking on roles that are far too difficult for them: Trump vs Biden would be the apotheosis this morass.

Pity more citizens in America fail to understand what has been done to them, or what this corrupt regime has inflicted on rest of the world.

Britain is no better – to expose what is happening we need a functioning MSM but what we have instead is the Guardian and BBC: platforms that are now infamous for churning out low calibre, or fake news.

different frank ,

https://twitter.com/i/status/1237466070145007617

Seamus Padraig ,

Is the plan for Biden to have "health problems" before the convention, forcing the DNC to pick its own candidate?

That's my theory. I think they're going to suddenly 'discover' that Joltin' Joe has 'health problems' and then roll out their real candidate on the second ballot at the convention this summer–probably Michelle Obama.

Will the DNC ever acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard exists?

I think our only hope now is that the Corona Virus kills all other politicians in the US, leaving only Tulsi alive. Of course, the DNC would probably still find some way to deny her the nomination somehow

michaelk ,

The DNC's election tactics were superb. Corrupt, rotten, foul and manipulative as well, but they worked. The swathe of candidates at the start gave the impression of a democratic and fair race, whilst deflecting people away from the stark choice of supporting Biden or Sanders from the beginning.

Whilst Trump succeeded by first capturing the Republican party and then going on to win the presidential election; Sanders chose not to follow that strategy, apparently believing, though it's an extraordinary thing to believe, that the leadership of the party was going to allow him to win the nomination 'fairly.'

Biden against Trump is going to be the worst, most grotesque, election contest, ever seen in the United States. Two totally unworthy candidates battling it out over the rotting corpse of a dying democracy. Probably the best result would be if most people just stayed at home on election day and boycotted the entire ghastly event.

wardropper ,

Yes. People should just stay home. But of course there is a regular percentage of observers who are incensed by the idea that people will realize how little effect their vote truly has.

"It's treason not to vote", they rage, quite oblivious to the really treasonous system which manipulates votes according to something quite different from the interests of democracy.

wardropper ,

It would be interesting to see, (although it's not going to happen) how the media, faced with an absolute zero voting turnout, would still manage to yap on about a "neck and neck race", with the most corrupt party emerging the clear winner after all

Gary Weglarz ,

The Democratic Party candidate selection process continues to roll along providing all the tension and suspense of an impending colonoscopy – sans anesthetic. It has been clear since 25 (yes 25) Democratic Party challengers have already "dropped out" of the race – that divide and conquer would be the order of the day. Spread the electorate out among a ridiculous number of mainstream centrist candidates and then throw all that support to one candidate – Joe Biden. Why would the party establishment choose Biden? Perhaps the following recent quote from Joe might shed some light. In trying to reference the Declaration of Independence Biden had the following to say to a crowd at a campaign rally:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women created by -- you know, you know . . . the thing."

Since we all know "the thing" is said to "work in mysterious ways" – one can deduce that the Democratic Party elites are perhaps depending upon "the thing" to work some sort of a miracle for them. At any rate it is all rather "mysterious" indeed.

Since Tulsi Gabbard has had the temerity to not join the 25 brain-dead placeholders and to "drop out" herself, and since she has further shown the very bad form of continuing to speak to anyone who will listen about America's illegal amoral regime-change wars – she has sadly had to be simply – "disappeared." Yes, I know, this term is usually associated with the death-squad democracies my government supports endlessly and shamelessly in Latin America, but if nothing else our American MSM have shown that you don't need death squads when they are on the job. They are quite capable of completely and entirely "disappearing" anyone sharing a message that has not been – "oligarchy approved." Trying to find reference to Tulsi in MSM is like trying to get through a day without being brutally reminded of Joe Biden's blinding dementia problem – pretty much impossible.

As the author suggests the Democratic Party establishment surely must have some plan other than simply sabotaging Sanders and then throwing a demented Biden to the Orange One to act as a pinata during the presidential debates. We American's do love "reality TV," but this I fear would be about as crass and horrific a spectacle as watching someone drown puppies on live television. Surely we must assume that the DNC and party oligarchy plan to use Biden as yet another "place-holder" to be replaced between now and fall presidential debates. The name "Hillary 'the rot' Clinton comes to mind – and suddenly one is reminded that there are worse things in life than a colonoscopy.

Of course the actual credibility of all of this spectacle to date depends upon one actually believing that both the polling numbers, and the voting processes, are honest and ethical and accurate, which seems to me to be about as likely as "you know, you know . . . the thing," performing some sort of a "miracle" on behalf of the Democratic Party so that it can valiantly vanquish the Orange One – using of all things – a dementia sufferer.

From my limited vantage point here in southern California it would appear that America is very much like a runaway train speeding toward a very very thick brick wall while gaining speed minute by minute. This train of course has no "driver" – save the inexorable laws of history as they pertain to crumbling "empires."

With that in mind I think I'll go shopping again so I can pretend none of this is happening – while joining with my neighbors in "hoarding" as much toilet paper as I possibly can! Actually, truth be told, the local toilet paper supply is now long gone and people are now hoarding paper towels – (I kid you not) – which of course portends a lot of very very sore bottoms by the time this is all over.

Seamus Padraig ,

You can have a dogshit sandwich or a catshit sandwich, just so long as its kosher.

So true! +1000

Charlotte Russe ,

Unfortunately, for all of Bernie's enthusiastic supporter 2020 was a redux of 2016. Amnesia, initially sets in caused by the initial excitement. Bernie's campaign overwhelms those yearning for change. Sanders is cognizant of how young voters and the marginalized are economically suffering. He knows exactly what to say to arouse an audience of thousands.

Devoted crowds eagerly rally around Bernie anticipating the upcoming primaries, believing he'll win everyone of them. After all, how could anyone be against a message promoting social justice.

And lo and behold, right out of the box the security state shenanigans begin. A "Shadow app" surfaces in Iowa, followed by a narrow win in New Hampshire. And although Bernie won the popular vote in the first two primaries he still comes out the loser to CIA Pete. However, not to be deterred Bernie won the Nevada caucus in a landslide. That was the moment when security state needed to make its move. It was now or never. These ghouls could not let Bernie pick up any more momentum. If they did, it would be too late to stop him–Milwaukee could turn into a bloodbath. It was time for the intelligence agencies to take a stand.

Clyburn a sellout bourgeois conservative black was called upon to do his duty. You don't get to be a "misleader" of the poor and the dejected if you won't convince them to smile while jumping off a cliff.

Slick Clyburn, gathered all the other crooked black politicians and they united in force behind brain dead Biden. When misleader Clyburn speaks his downtrodden constituency listens. South Carolina was a wipeout–Biden overwhelmingly won. And that's all the security state needed. Using the state-run mainstream media news propaganda machine in 72 hours Biden's campaign was raised like Lazarus from the dead.

Drooling Joe, received a slew of slick endorsements from all the longtime party hacks. A narrative was easily generated– Sanders was a loser and only Biden could beat Trump. At the end of day, don't you dumbasses want to beat Trump. So let's unite behind alzheimer Joe–he's our best chance.

As it turned out, the security state's narrative was easy to pull off because Sander is weak, lacks courage, and was never in it to win it. He never fought back against the DNC.

He never called out the cheating in Iowa. There were thousands of volunteers that would be willing to protest on his behalf. Timid Bernie just let it go. There were other things showing Bernie's lack of interest in winning. He stupidly embraced the Russiagate concocted narrative and then was victimized by it himself. He refused to tear into Biden describing in detail how every piece of reactionary legislation Joe passed was based on payoffs he'd received for either his son or his brother. In South Carolina, Bernie never used the millions donated to play video clips proving Biden is a warmongering racist.

Instead Bernie, kept saying "Biden is my good friend" or "Biden can beat Trump." WTF, if Biden can beat Trump then why are you running? Are you campaigning for Biden?

The final nail was Tulsi's tweet asking for Biden and Bernie's support for her to right to participate in the next debate. Yang and Marianne Williamson tweeted yes of course, but Bernie was silent. On subsequent mainstream media news appearances Bernie totally ignored Tulsi's candidacy. That was it – Bernie is a lackey – completely intimidated by the DNC.

Naturally the DNC didn't want Tulsi near the debate stage–she's the bravest of the lot. Tulsi would have proved Biden was a crook and a war criminal. Tulsi presence would be a boom for bernie, but Bernie didn't want that since he was in cahoots with the DNC.

And in the end, that's what it was always all about NOTHING. Bernie is the Tammy and Jim Baker of politics a prophet of false hope. He gathers up all the guiless and guillibe and then tosses them into the lion's den.

In Biden's case it's easy to know why the slithering DC establishment gang embraced him with open arms -- they all wanted to come back home

Here are some of the people Biden is considering for senior positions, per Axios:

Every loathsome contemptible neoliberal military interventionist is waiting in the wings to continue where Obama left off ..

Gall ,

Super Tuesday was so obviously rigged. The vote in California deviated from exit polling by over 15% and don't get me started on that Shadow app used for the Iowa caucus. The only difference wasn't as blatantly obvious as the last Primary.

Seems Bernie has reprised his role as sheep dog. Probably the reason the Orwellian DNC unpersoned Tulsi is that she probably refused to play.

Charlotte Ruse ,

Hundreds of thousands of ballots in California and Texas were discarded. Warren purposely stayed in the race to screw Bernie in Minnesota and Massachusetts, while Klobuchar and Buttigeg dropped out to prop-up Biden.

In avid Bernie locations polling centers were closed. And when all else failed voting machines are hacked. No one should underate the power of state-run mainstream media propaganda they hammered Sanders and launded the creep Biden.

And as I mentioned, Bernie is his own worst enemy, or as I also speculated he was never in it to win it.

The elections are more democratic in Afghanistan. When I previously commented on several posts the Democratic Party Primaries need to be monitored by a UN Raconteur many found it amusing.

Maxine ,

Why did Bernie become a candidate if he were not in it to win? .I can't figure that one out.

Eric McCoo ,

Blackmail ? The Clinton campaign exercising leverage over Sanders during the election – Podesta/wikileaks emails. 'This isn't in keeping w the agreement. Since we clearly have some leverage, would be good to flag this for him'. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/47397

RealPeter ,

There is a lot in what Charlotte says. Unfortunately. Trump may end up botching the corona crisis and lose, but whoever wins it's going to be four more years of everything getting worse.

Andy ,

Some research on 'possible' fraudulent hidden computer counting from first super Tuesday. http://tdmsresearch.com/

Ken ,

The fix is in for the status quo, and it's quite likely another 4 years of the orange asshole.

RobG ,

The real left in America was destroyed in the early 20th century. What goes now is a complete joke. https://www.youtube.com/embed/LehcJeNbFBw?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

Geoffrey Skoll ,

Everybody knows (listen to Leonard Cohen) Tulsi Gabbard does not exist, just like everybody knows Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction, Assad, that Putin Nazi, spread some kind of Bad Gas in Douma, repeatededly over several years since 2014, which the Intrepid White Helmets made better–just watch their Hollywood, Oscar winning movie. Of course Joe Biden is senile, else why would he challenge our carrot-topped Fearless leader, and everybody knows that Putin-Nazi Boris and Natasha tried to rig the 2016 election but were thwarted by Moose-Squirel, and other CIA assets.

[Mar 11, 2020] Election results from the computerized vote counts of the 2020 California Democratic Party presidential primary differed significantly from the results projected by the exit poll conducted by Edison Research and published by CNN at poll's closing.

Mar 11, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Peter Fenton , Mar 10 2020 18:18 utc | 9

Election results from the computerized vote counts of the 2020 California Democratic Party presidential primary differed significantly from the results projected by the exit poll conducted by Edison Research and published by CNN at poll's closing.

According to the exit poll Sanders won big in CA (by 15%). The unobservable computer counts cut his lead by half (to 7.3%).

In the total delegate count to date, substituting the estimated California and Texas exit poll delegate apportionments for the apportionments derived from the computer counts, results in candidate Sanders currently leading candidate Biden by 42 delegates instead of trailing by 45.

The possibility exists that massive voter suppression is currently occurring during the extended unfinished count of California ballots.


information_agent , Mar 10 2020 18:20 utc | 10

@Peter Fenton

As soon as electronic voting machines were introduced, exit polls stopped being accurate. Weird, isn't it?

ben , Mar 10 2020 22:17 utc | 21

US POLITICSMarch 9, 2020
"The Grayzone and CODEPINK demand emergency OAS election observers in 2020 Democratic presidential primary"

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/09/grayzone-codepink-international-election-observers-oas-2020-democratic-primary/

ben , Mar 10 2020 22:23 utc | 22
An excerpt from my article posted @ 21;

"In light of clear irregularities in voting results in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary and structural barriers to voter participation, The Grayzone and CODEPINK call on the Organization of American States (OAS) to provide emergency international election monitors in the primary contest."

"The OAS must send an emergency election monitoring team to the United States to ensure independent scrutiny of a presidential primary that has been marred by clear irregularities and the systematic and highly discriminatory obstruction of citizens' right to vote," Grayzone editor Max Blumenthal stated. "

Jackrabbit , Mar 10 2020 23:49 utc | 34
Merlin2 @27: ... where's Circe?

ben @22 has already informed us that he's busy trying to get election monitors:

"The Grayzone and CODEPINK call on the Organization of American States (OAS) to provide emergency international election monitors ..." Grayzone editor Max Blumenthal stated."

!!

Copeland , Mar 10 2020 23:59 utc | 35
There is nothing subtle about paring down the number of polling stations in populous areas, or having malfunctioning voting machines, or the surprise of buggered up voter lists, scrambled with typos, that keep people from getting hold of a ballot.
Morbidist , Mar 11 2020 0:34 utc | 36
As much as I'm sure election interference is a factor, I think the biggest story of the primary is the credulity and submissiveness of the average Democratic voter. Republican voters gave the middle finger to their establishment and hoisted Trump into the presidency.

Democrats were stampeded into the arms of a demented old segregationist by a pork-fattened Uncle Tom (Clyburn) and the pansies at MSNBC and the Washington Post. It's a true sight to behold---Super Tuesday may have been a self inflicted deathblow for the old jackasses; I will watch the party die with glee.

[Mar 10, 2020] Once sheep dog, always sheep dog

9 March 2020
Notable quotes:
"... The consolidation of the Democratic Party behind Biden is a damning exposure, not merely of the politically reactionary character of this organization, but of the contemptible falsification on which the Sanders campaign has been based: that it is possible to transform the Democratic Party, the oldest American capitalist party, into the spearhead of a "political revolution" that will bring about fundamental social change. ..."
"... It is evident that the Democratic Party leadership in Congress, as well as the Biden campaign and the Democratic National Committee, aims to run the 2020 campaign on the exact model of Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016: portraying Trump as personally unqualified to be president and as a Russian stooge, while opposing any significant social reform and delivering constant reassurances to the ruling financial aristocracy that a restored Democratic administration will follow in the footsteps of Obama, showering trillions on Wall Street and doing the bidding of the military-intelligence apparatus. ..."
"... One could ask of the nine ex-candidates who have now endorsed Biden, why they were candidates in the first place? Why did they bother to run against the former vice president, clearly the preferred candidate of the party establishment? None of them voices any significant political differences with Biden. All of them hail the right-wing political record of the Obama-Biden administration, even though that administration produced the social and economic devastation that made possible the election of Donald Trump. ..."
"... African American Democratic Party leaders, including Representative James Clyburn in South Carolina and hundreds of others, represent one of the most right-wing and politically corrupt sections of the party. ..."
"... The thinking of this layer was summed up in a column Saturday in the Washington Post ..."
"... What the Washington Post ..."
"... the entire black Democratic Party establishment has lined up behind Biden -- including, most recently, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot and Senator Kamala Harris. ..."
"... Sanders seeks to counter this all-out Democratic Party campaign for Biden by seeking to woo sections of the trade union bureaucracy with appeals to economic nationalism. ..."
"... More than 13 million people, mainly workers and youth, voted for Sanders in 2016 in the Democratic primaries and caucuses. Millions more continue to support him this year, with the same result. Sanders will wrap up his campaign by embracing the right-wing nominee of the Democratic Party and telling his supporters that this is the only alternative to the election, and now re-election of Trump. ..."
Mar 10, 2020 | www.wsws.org

The campaign of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders is making a last-ditch stand in the Michigan primary Tuesday, amid mounting indications that the Democratic Party as a whole has moved decisively into the camp of his main rival, former Vice President Joe Biden. Sanders cancelled rallies in Mississippi, Missouri and Illinois -- all states where he trails Biden in the polls -- in order to concentrate all his efforts in Michigan, where he won an upset victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016.

On Sunday, Senator Kamala Harris endorsed Biden, the latest of nine former presidential contenders to announce their support for their one-time rival, joining Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Michael Bloomberg, Beto O'Rourke, John Delaney, Seth Moulton, Tim Ryan, and Deval Patrick. Harris is to join Biden for a campaign rally in Detroit Monday.

The consolidation of the Democratic Party behind Biden is a damning exposure, not merely of the politically reactionary character of this organization, but of the contemptible falsification on which the Sanders campaign has been based: that it is possible to transform the Democratic Party, the oldest American capitalist party, into the spearhead of a "political revolution" that will bring about fundamental social change.

Former Vice President Biden is the personification of the decrepit and right-wing character of the Democratic Party. In the past 10 days alone, Biden has declared himself a candidate for the US Senate, rather than president, confused his wife and his sister as they stood on either side of him, called himself an "Obiden Bama Democrat," and declared that 150 million Americans died in gun violence over the past decade. This is not just a matter of Biden's declining mental state: it is the Democratic Party, not just its presidential frontrunner, that is verging on political senility.

It is evident that the Democratic Party leadership in Congress, as well as the Biden campaign and the Democratic National Committee, aims to run the 2020 campaign on the exact model of Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016: portraying Trump as personally unqualified to be president and as a Russian stooge, while opposing any significant social reform and delivering constant reassurances to the ruling financial aristocracy that a restored Democratic administration will follow in the footsteps of Obama, showering trillions on Wall Street and doing the bidding of the military-intelligence apparatus.

One could ask of the nine ex-candidates who have now endorsed Biden, why they were candidates in the first place? Why did they bother to run against the former vice president, clearly the preferred candidate of the party establishment? None of them voices any significant political differences with Biden. All of them hail the right-wing political record of the Obama-Biden administration, even though that administration produced the social and economic devastation that made possible the election of Donald Trump.

Even more revolting, if that is possible, is the embrace of Biden by the black Democratic politicians. The former senator from Delaware is identified with some of the most repugnant episodes in the history of race relations in America: the abusive treatment of Anita Hill, when she testified against the nomination of Clarence Thomas, before Biden's Judiciary Committee; an alliance with segregationist James Eastland on school integration in the early 1970s, highlighted at a debate by Kamala Harris, eight months before she endorsed Biden; and the passage of a series of "law-and-order" bills that disproportionately jailed hundreds of thousands of African Americans, all of them pushed through the Senate by Biden.

How did a politician who boasted of his close relationships with Eastland and Strom Thurmond become the beneficiary of a virtual racial bloc vote by African Americans in the Southern states? Because African American Democratic Party leaders, including Representative James Clyburn in South Carolina and hundreds of others, represent one of the most right-wing and politically corrupt sections of the party.

The thinking of this layer was summed up in a column Saturday in the Washington Post by Colbert King, a former State Department official and local banker, a prominent member of the African American elite in the nation's capital, who wrote in outrage, "America's black billionaires have no place in a Bernie Sanders world."

King denounced the suggestion that black CEOs and billionaires are "greedy, corrupt threats to America's working families or the cause of economic disparities and human misery." Voicing the fears of his class, he continued, "I know there are those out there who buy the notion that America consists of a small class of privileged, rapacious super-rich lording over throngs of oppressed, capitalist-exploited workers. You can see it in poll numbers showing the share of Americans who prefer socialism to capitalism inching upward."

What the Washington Post columnist reveals is what Bernie Sanders has done his best to cover up: the Democratic Party is a party of the capitalist class. It can no more be converted to socialism than the CIA can become an instrument of the struggle against American imperialism.

True, Sanders can dredge up Jesse Jackson for a last-minute endorsement, proof that demagogues engaged in diverting mass left-wing sentiment into the graveyard of the Democratic Party recognize and embrace each other across the decades. But with that exception, the entire black Democratic Party establishment has lined up behind Biden -- including, most recently, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot and Senator Kamala Harris.

Harris's statement is worth quoting. "I have decided that I am with great enthusiasm going to endorse Joe Biden for president of the United States," she said. "I believe in Joe. I really believe in him, and I have known him for a long time." The senator was no doubt responding to the incentives dangled in front of her by Biden after she left the race last December, when he gushed, "She is solid. She can be president someday herself. She can be the vice president. She can go on to be a Supreme Court justice. She can be an attorney general."

Sanders seeks to counter this all-out Democratic Party campaign for Biden by seeking to woo sections of the trade union bureaucracy with appeals to economic nationalism. New Sanders television ads in Michigan feature a United Auto Workers member declaring that his state "has been decimated by trade deals," while Sanders declares that Biden backed NAFTA, drawing the conclusion, "With a record like that, we can't trust him to protect American jobs or defeat Donald Trump." The Vermont senator will find that very few auto workers follow the political lead of the corrupt gangsters who head the UAW.

More than 13 million people, mainly workers and youth, voted for Sanders in 2016 in the Democratic primaries and caucuses. Millions more continue to support him this year, with the same result. Sanders will wrap up his campaign by embracing the right-wing nominee of the Democratic Party and telling his supporters that this is the only alternative to the election, and now re-election of Trump.

Indeed, in appearances on several Sunday television interview programs, Sanders went out of his way to repeat, as he said on Fox News, "Joe Biden is a friend of mine. Joe Biden is a decent guy. What Joe has said is if I win the nomination, he'll be there for me, and I have said if he wins the nomination, I'll be there for him "

[Mar 08, 2020] How is it that Biden won so many states based on endorsements alone? No field offices, no real money, he barely visited some states, if at all and yet he won

Notable quotes:
"... How is it that Biden won so many states based on endorsements alone? No field offices, no real money, he barely visited some states, if at all and yet he won. ..."
"... Hillary had tons of endorsements everywhere, a field office in every state and major city, lots of cash, and she didn't win as many. This does not compute. ..."
"... The only difference is Biden is personally more appealing and approachable than Hillary. But still. Something fishy here. I'm wondering how many of those states had audit trails like hand-marked paper ballots and how many did not? ..."
"... The wide discrepancy between exit poll numbers and vote total percentages in some states seems a little fishy, too. Electronic voting machines: progress! (removing my foil bonnet now) ..."
Mar 08, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

David Carl Grimes , March 6, 2020 at 4:39 pm

How is it that Biden won so many states based on endorsements alone? No field offices, no real money, he barely visited some states, if at all and yet he won.

Hillary had tons of endorsements everywhere, a field office in every state and major city, lots of cash, and she didn't win as many. This does not compute.

The only difference is Biden is personally more appealing and approachable than Hillary. But still. Something fishy here. I'm wondering how many of those states had audit trails like hand-marked paper ballots and how many did not?

flora , March 6, 2020 at 4:50 pm

The wide discrepancy between exit poll numbers and vote total percentages in some states seems a little fishy, too. Electronic voting machines: progress! (removing my foil bonnet now)

Tvc15 , March 6, 2020 at 5:14 pm

I'll put the foil bonnet on Flora. DCG, the fishy smell is election fraud courtesy of the DNC. Unless we have paper ballots hand counted in public, I don't buy the miraculous Biden resurgence narrative from his supposed silent majority. Give me a family blogging break.

Cuibono , March 6, 2020 at 6:42 pm

I absolutely fail to understand why anyone would consider this idea tin foil. Who do we think we're dealing with here? These folks are playing to win and they will do anything and everything in their power to do so. The system is set up perfectly to support psychopaths

lyman alpha blob , March 6, 2020 at 10:01 pm

Me neither. That fact that the Democrat party has never even tried to address the problems with election integrity, even when they've had the presidency stolen from them, speaks volumes.

They allow a phony riot to stop the count in FL, then hardly make a peep when the Supremes anoint Bush in 2000 in a decision not meant to set precedent, and their response is the Help America Vote Act which foisted these easily hackable machines on us as a solution? The only reason you do that is if you want to be able to rig elections yourself.

After the debacle of the Iowa caucus this year and the unheard of swing to Biden this week, it sure looks like the fix is in.

Carolinian , March 6, 2020 at 6:31 pm

Please educate me–no seriously!–as to how hand marked paper ballots are so very different from machine marked paper ballots. If you assume that machine marked ballots–marked with the candidate's name (written in human readable English) and securely stored for a potential hand recount–are crooked then aren't you assuming that the entire election machinery is crooked and not just a vote tabulating machine? After all long before computers were invented there was that thing called ballot box stuffing.

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flora , March 6, 2020 at 7:45 pm

Machine marked ballots have a middleman. Said machines 'phone home' to a central server, which may well be running a program that fractionally 'shifts' votes as needed to edge out a win for the estab preferred candidate (of either party). The 'red shift' in vote results after electronic voting has been noted by statisticians.

One interesting coincidence here is that I was going to link to some statisticians' work I know of, work that was easily available online as late as early January this year. When I search for the links now they are either gone or the links are warned off as 'suspect'.

flora , March 6, 2020 at 7:53 pm

Info easily found online. Here's one very recent story's take away:

"Some of the most popular ballot-marking machines, made by industry leaders Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems, register votes in bar codes that the human eye cannot decipher. That's a problem, researchers say: Voters could end up with printouts that accurately spell out the names of the candidates they picked, but, because of a hack, the bar codes do not reflect those choices. Because the bar codes are what's tabulated, voters would never know that their ballots benefited another candidate.

"Even on machines that do not use bar codes, voters may not notice if a hack or programming error mangled their choices. A University of Michigan study determined that only 7 percent of participants in a mock election notified poll workers when the names on their printed receipts did not match the candidates they voted for."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/vendors-push-risky-new-voting-machines-over-safe-paper-ballots/

Read the whole story.

Carolinian , March 6, 2020 at 8:10 pm

In the just past election are there any reports of ballots being printed out that had a different name than the one the voter selected to be printed? And if that did happen would it be anything other than accidentally pressing the wrong button? Surely if this "voters didn't look at the ballot" (which personally I greatly doubt) idea was really the cheating scheme then it would be highly likely to be exposed.

flora , March 6, 2020 at 8:14 pm

Re-read the part about the 'computer reads and tabulates the barcode information, not the english text printout'. A hack or middleman could fiddle the barcode printout/information (unrecognized by the human eye) , not the text printout.

flora , March 6, 2020 at 8:24 pm

Also consider that the fiddle works best if it's only a few percentage points different than expected, one way or the other. People then say of unexpected results, 'oh, it was really close, but that's how it goes, elections can be unpredictable', and accept the election results as 'the will of the people.' It's called "electronic fractional vote shifting". Really. It's called that. Fractional vote shifting.

Carolinian , March 6, 2020 at 8:35 pm

Right–without a doubt. But the reason it prints that piece of paper is for a later human audit by eye should a recount be demanded. In that case the barcode would become irrelevant. There is a paper trail.

That said, I would agree there could be secret ballot concerns about the way I voted. You feed the ballot into the counter right side up and unfolded with an election "helper" standing nearby.

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flora , March 6, 2020 at 9:00 pm

One reason both parties prefer 'close elections'. A few points either way won't raise eyebrows. Won't raise a demand for a recount. (And, like compound interest, a 'few points' one way or the other in various elections, over time, can add up to large effects in political direction. imo.)

lyman alpha blob , March 6, 2020 at 10:12 pm

The problem is getting to the recount. My state does not allow recounts unless the machine tally is extremely close. So if you want to rig an election, just make sure your candidate wins by enough and there will never be a recount of those machine counted paper ballots.

I asked city officials for a few years to do recounts just to audit the machines, and was told it was not allowed under state law unless there was a close enough race – I believe the threshhold is in the low single digits. My wife later ran for office and lost by about 1% and I was finally able to get a recount. We counted all the ballots by hand and while the final outcome didn't change, what we found was that the hand recount tallied about 1-2% more votes than the machines had.

flora is right about the close elections. I find it very odd that in my younger days we had landslides fairly often and now every presidential election goes right down to the wire.

Tom Bradford , March 6, 2020 at 8:04 pm

OK. This is my experience as a counter in a UK General Election, where hand-marked ballot-papers are counted in public.

Each voting station has a sealed tin box. Arriving to vote your name is checked against the electoral role and you are handed a ballot paper. You go into a curtained booth with a stand-up desk and a pencil in a string and put a X in a box opposite the candidate you vote for. Outside the booth you fold your ballot paper and post it into the box through a narrow slot. When the election closes the box is delivered to – in our case – the town-hall – where the counters sit at tables three to a side with a team-leader at the head. One of the boxes is brought to each table, unsealed and the contents dumped into the middle of it. Each counter then snags a pile of marked votes and sorts them into piles as voted. Any uncertainties – where the vote isn't obvious – is passed up to the team leader for assessment. When all the votes are tallied – including the uncertainties – the total is compared with the note from the polling station stating the number of votes cast there, and if they don't agree the count for that box is done again.

All this is done under the eyes of representatives of the candidates who are free to move around the tables at will, and who in particular can watch over the team-leaders dealing with the uncertain ballot papers, but who are free to challenge any counter's tally.

Ballot boxes could be 'switched' between the voting station and the count, but that would only work if you knew how many papers were in the box per the count or could also substitute the tally signed off by the polling-station superintendent. Ballot-box stuffing wouldn't work as again the votes cast and counted for that box/station would not align.

Could it be gamed? I suppose, but it would take a massive effort and conspiracy – mostly at the polling-station/transit stage, tho' again the candidates can have observers there. The whole system is run by the local authority and most of those involved in the polling-station/count are local authority workers with their own political preferences so finding enough to suborn to fix the count would be a difficult, and politically dangerous operation. Even if one polling-station's box was corrupted in some way it would have little effect on the overall result, and if it stood out as atypical could invite investigation.

So no, it's not perfect, but I can't think of a better way of doing it.

Tom Bradford , March 6, 2020 at 8:15 pm

Ps. Each voting paper is numbered and taken from a book leaving a stub with the same number. So to 'stuff' or otherwise tamper with the voting papers in the box you'd also need to swap the actual voting paper book with a substitute bearing the same number system and I think, tho' don't quote me on this, books of ballot papers for the various polling stations are only issued on election day and at random.

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flora , March 6, 2020 at 9:24 pm

Could it be gamed? I suppose, but it would take a massive effort

The 'massive effort' part is where computer voting can eliminate so much effort (when properly coded or uplinked), if you take my meaning.

Watt4Bob , March 6, 2020 at 8:40 pm

IIRC, in a nut-shell, some of the systems used have a bar code printed on the ballot at the time they are scanned into the system.

That bar code ' marks ', the ballot, and supposedly communicates the voter's intentions to the tabulating software that counts the votes.

The rest of the ballot looks proper to the voter, but the voter has no way of telling what the bar code means.

And from any IT professional's point of view, who cares what the ballot looks like, if the mark on your ballot, (the one that is counted) was not made by your hand (say, a bar code printed by a scanner), and/or, if there is a computer used to count the votes, that system is intended to allow falsification of election results.

Due to the lack of legal action on the part of either of our political parties, to refute the results of elections stolen by wholesale electronic election fraud, I can only conclude that election fraud is a wholly acceptable tool in their bi-partisan toolbox?

And yes, you're right, they've always stuffed the ballot box, think of electronic vote tabulation as the newest twist on an old trick.

The invention of electronic voting was intended to insure that voters can never vote their way to freedom.

Carolinian , March 7, 2020 at 8:45 am

So your argument is that we must have hand counted ballots because the machine marked version won't work because the recounters would have to hand count the ballots. Just to repeat, yet again, when I voted a ballot shaped piece of plain paper was printed with my candidate choice clearly printed along with a bar code, not qr. This then becomes the vote itself and it can be read by a scanner or by a human. If done by a human then it is utterly no different than if I had checked a box on a pre printed ballot.

And for all the objections cited by those above there are valid reasons for states to want such a system. Obviously an all manual system is very labor intensive and also subject to human error unless double checked by still more labor. You'd also have to print lots of ballots before every election while not knowing exactly how many will be needed.

If there are suspicions of vote machine companies–and there should be–a more logical approach might be to insist that all software is open source and that no machines are connected directly to the internet or have usb ports. Signs in the precincts should advise voters to check their paper ballot to make sure the correct choice is printed.

[Mar 07, 2020] Democrat Establishment deliberatly hands control over the nomination to the political establisment in states they will never win in the general elections

So sellout by Clinton of the Democratic Party to Wall Street proved to be durable and sustainable...
Bernie again behaves like a sheep dog with no intention to win... "Let's be friends" is not a viable strategy...
Notable quotes:
"... the same character traits that make him an honorable politician also make him fundamentally unsuited for the difficult task of waging a successful outsider campaign for the nomination of a major political party. ..."
"... Why hasn't Sara Nelson, head of the Flight Attendants' Union, endorsed Bernie? (Personally I have always thought she'd be a good VP.) ..."
"... Robinson is dreaming if he thinks Non-Profit Industrial Complex entities like EMILY's List and Planned Parenthood will lift a finger to help Sanders, or busines unionists like Randi Weingarten. To his credit, though, Ady Barkan switched immediately. External support, though is correct: IIRC, there are plenty of union locals to be had; the Culinary Workers should be only the first. ..."
"... "Corporate Lobbyists Control the Rules at the DNC" [ ReadSludge ]. "Among the 447 total voting DNC members, who make up the majority of 771 superdelegates, there are scores of corporate lobbyists and consultants -- including many of the 75 at-large DNC members, who were not individually elected . ..."
"... The 32-member DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee contains the following 20 individuals: a health insurance board member co-chair, three surrogates for presidential campaigns (two for Bloomberg, one for Biden), four current corporate lobbyists, two former corporate lobbyists, six corporate consultants, and four corporate lawyers." ..."
"... "Joe Biden is a friend of mine" is the 2020-updated version of "enough about the damn e-mails, already". No amount of ground-level organizing can make up for a candidate willing to publicly overlook what should be high-office-disqualifying fundamental character traits in his opponents out of "niceness". ..."
"... It's easy to do a post Super Tuesday defeat analysis of Sanders but remember, everything seems to work before SC where I think the Democrats fixed the election and the same holds for Super Tuesday. ..."
"... post-dial-up-modem ..."
Mar 07, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Sanders (D)(1): "Bernie Sanders needs to find the killer instinct" [Matthew Walther, The Week ]. I've heard Useful Idiots, Dead Pundits, and the inimitable Jimmy Dore all make the same point, but Walther's prose makes the point most forcefully (as prose often does). The situation:

There is no greater contrast imaginable than the one between the popular (and frequently exaggerated) image of so-called "Bernie bros" and the almost painfully conciliatory instincts of the man they support.

This was fully in evidence on Wednesday afternoon when Sanders responded to arguably the worst defeat of his political career by chatting with journalists about how " disgusted " he is at unspecified online comments directed at Elizabeth Warren and her supporters and what a " decent guy " Joe Biden is.

He did this despite the fact that Warren, with the connivance of debate moderators, recently called him a sexist in front of an audience of millions, effectively announcing that she had no interest in making even a tacit alliance with the only other progressive candidate in the race and, one imagines, despite thinking that the former vice president's record on virtually everything -- finance, health care, race relations, the environment, foreign policy -- should render him ineligible for office.

It should go without saying that offering these pleasantries will do Sanders few if any favors.

Lambert here: This is a Presidential primary, not the Senate floor. There is no comity. Walther then gives a list of possible scorched earth tactics to use against Biden; we could all make such a list. But then:

Sanders's benevolent disposition does him credit. But the same character traits that make him an honorable politician also make him fundamentally unsuited for the difficult task of waging a successful outsider campaign for the nomination of a major political party.

Corbyn had the same problem...

Sanders really must not let Biden and the Democrat Establishment off the hook. He seems to have poor judgment about his friends. Warren was no "friend." And neither is Joe Biden.

If Sanders wants friends, he can buy a dog .

He should forget those false friends, go into the next debate, and slice Joe Biden off at the knees. Trump would. And will, if Sander loses.

His canvassers and more importantly his millions of small donors deserve no less. The race and the debate is now between two people, and only one can emerge the winner. Sanders needs to decide if he wants to be that person, and then do what it takes . (If the outcome of the Sanders campaign is a left that is a permanently institutionalized force, distinct from liberal Democrats, I would regard that as a net positive. If that is Sanders' ultimate goal, then fine. He's not going to achieve that goal by being nice to Joe Biden. Quite the reverse.)

UPDATE Sanders (D)(2): "Time To Fight Harder Than We've Ever Fought Before" [Nathan J. Robinson, Current Affairs ].

"Biden now has some formidable advantages going forward: Democrats who no longer see him as a failed or risky bet will finally endorse and campaign for him. He will find it easier to raise money. He will have "momentum." Bloomberg's exit will bring him new voters.

Sanders may find upcoming states even harder to win than the Super Tuesday contests. But the one thing that would guarantee a Sanders loss is giving up and going home, which is exactly what Joe Biden hopes we will now do."

Here follows a laundry list of tactics. Then: "The real thing Bernie needs in order to win, though, is external support. Labor unions, activists, lawmakers, anyone with a public platform: We need to be pressuring them to endorse Bernie.

Why hasn't Sara Nelson, head of the Flight Attendants' Union, endorsed Bernie? (Personally I have always thought she'd be a good VP.)

Now that Elizabeth Warren is clearly not going to win, will organizations like the Working Families Party and EMILY's List and people like AFT president Randi Weingarten and Medicare For All advocate Ady Barkan switch and endorse Sanders?

Where is the Sierra Club, SEIU (Bernie, after all, was one of the first national figures to push Fight for $15), the UAW, Planned Parenthood? Many progressive organizations have been sitting out the race because Warren was in it."

Good ideas in general, but Robinson is dreaming if he thinks Non-Profit Industrial Complex entities like EMILY's List and Planned Parenthood will lift a finger to help Sanders, or busines unionists like Randi Weingarten. To his credit, though, Ady Barkan switched immediately. External support, though is correct: IIRC, there are plenty of union locals to be had; the Culinary Workers should be only the first.

Warren (D)(1): "Why Elizabeth Warren lost" [Ryan Cooper, The Week ]. "Starting in November, however, she started a long decline that continued through January, when she started losing primaries . So what happened in November?

It is hard to pin down exactly what is happening in such a chaotic race, but Warren's campaign certainly made a number of strategic errors. One important factor was surely that Warren started backing away from Medicare-for-all, selling instead a bizarre two-step plan.

The idea supposedly was to pass universal Medicare with two different bills, one in her first year as president and one in the third year. Given how difficult it is to pass anything through Congress, and that there could easily be fewer Democrats in 2023 than in 2021, it was a baffling decision. Worse, Warren then released a plan for financing Medicare-for-all that was simply terrible.

Rather than levying a new progressive tax, she would turn existing employer contributions to private health insurance plans into a tax on employers, which would gradually converge to an average for all businesses but the smallest. The clear objective here was to claim that she would pay for it without levying any new taxes on the middle or working classes. But because those employer payments are still part of labor compensation, it is ultimately workers who pay them -- making Warren's plan a horribly regressive head tax (that is, an equal dollar tax on almost all workers regardless of income).

All that infuriated the left, and struck directly at Warren's branding as the candidate of technical competence. It suggested her commitment to universal Medicare was not as strong as she claimed, and that she would push classic centrist-style Rube Goldberg policies rather than clean, fair ones. (Her child care plan, with its complicated means-testing system, had a similar defect).

Claiming her plan was the only one not to raise taxes on the middle class was simply dishonest. In sum, this was a classic failed straddle that alienated the left but gained no support among anti-universal health care voters. More speculatively, this kind of hesitation and backtracking may have turned off many voters." • On #MedicareForAll, called it here on "pay for" ; and here on "transition." Warren's plans should not have been well-received, and they were not. I'm only amazed that these really technical arguments penetrated the media (let along the voters).

Warren (D)(2): "Warren Urged by National Organization for Women Not to Endorse Sanders: He Has 'Done Next to Nothing for Women'" [ Newsweek ]. • Establishment really pulling out all the stops.

* * *

"Why Southern Democrats Saved Biden" [Mara Gay, New York Times ]. (Gay was the lone member of the Times Editorial Board to endorse Sanders .) "Through Southern eyes, this election is not about policy or personality. It's about something much darker. Not long ago, these Americans lived under violent, anti-democratic governments. Now, many there say they see in President Trump and his supporters the same hostility and zeal for authoritarianism that marked life under Jim Crow .

They were deeply skeptical that a democratic socialist like Mr. Sanders could unseat Mr. Trump. They liked Ms. Warren, but, burned by Hillary Clinton's loss, were worried that too many of their fellow Americans wouldn't vote for a woman."

Well worth a read. At the same time, it's not clear why the Democrat Establishment hands control over the nomination to the political establishment in states they will never win in the general; the "firewall" in 2016 didn't work out all that well, after all. As for Jim Crow, we might do well to remember that Obama destroyed a generation of Black wealth his miserably inadequate response to the foreclosure crisis, and his pathetic stimulus package kept Black unemployment high for years longer than it should have been. And sowed the dragon's teeth of authoritarian reaction as well.

"Corporate Lobbyists Control the Rules at the DNC" [ ReadSludge ]. "Among the 447 total voting DNC members, who make up the majority of 771 superdelegates, there are scores of corporate lobbyists and consultants -- including many of the 75 at-large DNC members, who were not individually elected .

The 32-member DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee contains the following 20 individuals: a health insurance board member co-chair, three surrogates for presidential campaigns (two for Bloomberg, one for Biden), four current corporate lobbyists, two former corporate lobbyists, six corporate consultants, and four corporate lawyers."


ewmayer , March 6, 2020 at 6:03 pm

"Joe Biden is a friend of mine" is the 2020-updated version of "enough about the damn e-mails, already". No amount of ground-level organizing can make up for a candidate willing to publicly overlook what should be high-office-disqualifying fundamental character traits in his opponents out of "niceness".

Lambert Strether Post author , March 7, 2020 at 1:57 am

> Bernie is thinking like an organizer

That's fine, but if his organization is then put at the disposal of Joe Biden, I don't see how the organization survives. (That's why the DNC cheating meme* is important; it provides the moral cover to get out of that loyalty oath (which the Sanders campaign certainly should have had its lawyers take a look at)).

NOTE * Iowa, Texas, and California have all had major voting screw-ups, all of which impacted Sanders voters disproportionately. The campaign should sue. They have the money.)

dcblogger , March 6, 2020 at 2:15 pm

I once met an union organizer and he said he could go back to any site he had worked and be on friendly terms with everyone. Bernie is thinking like an organizer. I think that making this about Social Security is his best bet. It demolishes Biden in a way that makes the election about the American people.

pretzelattack , March 6, 2020 at 2:25 pm

he needs to go after biden on the issues in a much more forceful manner than he typically does, with lots and lots of specifics. did i mention lots of specifics? and lots of pointed references to biden's past positions, and a focus on pinning him down on his position now. he needs to ask questions biden will not be prepared for with easy scripted responses.

JohnnyGL , March 6, 2020 at 2:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcEljDeFEI

Well, he's baited Biden into a spat about SS for now, so that's a positive sign.

drumlin woodchuckles , March 6, 2020 at 7:10 pm

Perhaps if Sanders can keep successfully baiting Biden with hooks baited with Biden's own past statements over and over and over again, that Sanders can then go on to practice some very well disguised passive-aggressive pointing/not-pointing to Biden's mental condition by asking Biden at every opportunity: " don't you remember that, Joe? You remember saying that, don't you Joe? Don't you remember when you said that, Joe?"

Titus , March 6, 2020 at 3:31 pm

Except 70% of Women according to Stanford finding these kind of confrontations distressing to very distressing. Tricky. One changes emotions by using emotions so the trick here is "allowing" Biden to act deranged and expressing sorrow over it. For 70% of guys they won't get the emotional content, but will understand the logic of the questions and lack of answers. It can be done, Bill Clinton and Obama were very good at this. Look you want to be president you got to play the game at the highest level. Good practice for dealing with trump.

Oh , March 6, 2020 at 3:51 pm

Timing was right for both Obama and Clinton. After the GFC voters would have gone for any Democrat because Republicans were toxic. Similarly, it was fortuitous for Clinton because Perot was running and he quit the race a couple of months before the election.

Obama got loads and loads of money from Wall Street. Neither of these guys would stand a chance in an election year when the economy was doing well.

It's easy to do a post Super Tuesday defeat analysis of Sanders but remember, everything seems to work before SC where I think the Democrats fixed the election and the same holds for Super Tuesday.

I didn't see anyone pointing out that Bernie had to be confrontational when he seems to be winning.

Mo's Bike Shop , March 6, 2020 at 8:59 pm

Wait. How many days ago was the field of candidates wide open?

If Bernard does not roast Biden on Social Security I will be disappointed. If Smokin' Joe doesn't lash out with his typical aplomb, I'll be disappointed. I'm saving myself up for bigger disappointments.

I'll be happy with the Vermont interpretation of Huey Long. I'm glad that people are finally noticing we have one Socialist Senator.

Idea for an 'own the slur' bumper sticker: "I'm tickled pink by Bernie" -- Although I don't know how the post-dial-up-modem crowd might misinterpret that?

foghorn longhorn , March 6, 2020 at 2:56 pm

This is such bs.
Trump insulted the f*ck out of mccain, mittens, jeb, cruz, pelosi, schumer and the rest of the clown posse and what did they do?

Passed every gd thing he sent to them.

Are we gonna fight or dance, it's past time to get it on.

Zagonostra , March 6, 2020 at 6:01 pm

"I admittedly don't even know what to call Pelosi and Schumer at this point, besides a simple "past their sell date".

How about corrupt, immoral dishonest, greedy, sociopaths for starters (for more accurate adjectives I recommend viewing Jimmy Dore)

Glen , March 6, 2020 at 5:22 pm

Bernie cannot say it, but I can.

I support Bernie because Bernie supports the polices I think we need to save the country: M4A, GND,$15/hr min, free college, etc. To me, being an FDR Dem like Bernie is the moderate position, we've done it before, we know it works. Biden's support of neoliberal polices that have wrecked America is the extreme position.

But the DNC does not support FDR's Democracy. They have ended up to the right of Ronald Reagan. Pelosi could have pushed a M4A bill but did not. Pelosi could have pushed any number of polices to show how Trump is failing the working and middle class, but she did not.

So if Bernie is not picked for the general, I no longer have a reason to support the Dems, and will stay home. Actually, I will probably not stay home, I will work to get Dems out of office, and in general, work to burn the party to the ground. Why? Because it is in the way, and does not support the working class or the middle class.

The Dem party has to decide – do they really support the working and middle class or not. Because only Bernie supports those polices, and the rest of the Dems running for President do not.

[Mar 04, 2020] Donna Brazile who among other things gave Hillary the question for presidential debate in advance just told the @GOPChairwoman to "go to hell" for suggesting that the Democratic establishment was once again worked to manipulate a nominee into frontrunner status

Mar 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Former DNC chairman who gave Hillary Clinton debate questions in advance during the 2016 election, exclaimed on Fox News that Biden's victory was "the most impressive 72 hours I've ever seen in U.S. politics," and told another analyst to " go to hell " for suggesting that the Democratic establishment was once again working to manipulate a nominee into frontrunner status.

The Democrats are in chaos and melting down on live TV.

Donna Brazile just told the @GOPChairwoman to "go to hell" when asked about the chaos.

Best of luck, Donna! Meanwhile, Republicans are more unified than ever! pic.twitter.com/hCwotuF9tx

-- Trump War Room - Text EMPOWER to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) March 3, 2020

[Mar 03, 2020] Your Super Thursday, err Tuesday Cheat Sheet by Larry C Johnson

Note minuscule amount of voters in each state. This is were election fraud resides.
Mar 03, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

I will be very interested to see what happens in the states with closed or semi-closed primaries. That should be a true test of Bernie enthusiasm compared to 2016.

Enjoy.

Alabama: Open primary , with 52 pledged delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

American Samoa: Open caucus, with the territory awarding six delegates on the basis of the results of the caucuses.

Arkansas: Open primary , with 31 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

California: Semi-closed primary -only Democrats and unaffiliated voters can cast a ballot- with the 415 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Colorado: Semi-closed primary –only Democrats and unaffiliated voters can cast a ballot- with 67 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Democrats Abroad: Open primary in which any U.S. citizen living abroad who is a member of Democrats Abroad can participate, with the 13 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Maine: Closed primary –only Democrats can cast a ballot- 24 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Massachusetts: Semi-closed primary –only Democrats and unaffiliated voters can cast a ballot- 91 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Minnesota: Open primary , 75 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

North Carolina: Semi-closed primary –only Democrats and unaffiliated voters can cast a ballot- 110 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Oklahoma: Semi-closed primary –only Democrats and unaffiliated voters can cast a ballot- 37 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Tennessee: Open primary , 64 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Texas: Open primary , 228 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Utah: Open primary , 29 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Vermont: Open primary , 16 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

Virginia: Open primary , 99 delegates being awarded on a proportional basis.

[Mar 03, 2020] The Catfood Democrat Party themSELVES engineered Super Tuesday in order to prevent a McGovern figure from winning the most delegates ever again ever.

Mar 03, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

John , March 3, 2020 at 7:45 pm

The Blue states need to move their primaries up to Super Tuesday or before.

It's way past time to stop letting Red states decide our candidates.

drumlin woodchuckles , March 3, 2020 at 8:52 pm

Super Tuesday is a Catfood Democrat conspiracy. The Catfood Democrat Party themSELVES engineered Super Tuesday in order to prevent a McGovern figure from winning the most delegates ever again ever.

[Mar 03, 2020] The long shadow of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz over 2020 elections

Mar 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

MentalcaseToday , Mar 3 2020 18:14 utc | 28

What's the mystery? Lock Assange in solitary for months and gee golly, suddenly no one to expose how SCarolina was fixed for Joe Biden. Just like Debbie Wasserman screwed Bernie in 2016. Media "explains" it was the "black vote." You bet. Sure Joe got 51pc. I guess so.

[Mar 03, 2020] I just voted in California, lots of "new tech", with touchscreens. Quite buggy. Be sure to wash your hands too

Mar 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Bemildred , Mar 3 2020 20:31 utc | 45

I just voted in California, lots of "new tech", with touchscreens. Quite buggy. Be sure to wash your hands too. /sarc

Took about an hour and a half starting at 10:00 AM to get in, about 10-15 to get through the voting process. Bazillions of people standing in line, half the voting booths empty. The big rollout. I predict a big mess tonight, lots of mistakes, lots of voters who give up and no "verified" results any time soon ...

And all those touchscreens will be junk in five years. $$$

[Mar 03, 2020] The Democratic Party oligarchy are the world champions at every sort of electoral malfeasance

Mar 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Mar 3 2020 18:04 utc | 25

The thing to watch today will be the vote stealing by the Democrat oligarchy. They are the world champions at every sort of electoral malfeasance. Remember in 2016 how Bernie almost won New York until Brooklyn, his hometown, was counted and more than 20,000 voters disappeared? Then there was California where millions of votes went uncounted and Hillary was called the winner.


The Democrats are not really a political party in the sense that europeans understand the term, more like an agglomeration of electoral machines, controlled by politicians owned by vested interests, making up the rules as they go along.

With both Biden and Warren desperate for anything that can be portrayed as momentum expect the unexpected: repeats of the sort of nonsense we saw in Iowa and local precincts in which 110% of the electorate give unanimous support to the candidate most likely to take away their social security and wave 'bye-bye' as they die untreated of diseases. Or malnutrition.
A
nd the cherry on top of the electoral sundae in today's primaries will be the near unanimity with which the most glaring irregularities are ignored by the media, and anyone suggesting that 2+2= anything as predictable as 4 will be called a conspiracy theorist, working for Putin and the KGB.

[Mar 01, 2020] How neoliberal centrists became far right: Dems it seems likely that the instinct for neoliberal globalist "normalcy" is kicking in, and so Dems are proposing to go with an oligarch billionaire -- just yesterday the worst thing on earth -- who has many times the wealth of Trump, and who represents the ugliest sector of globalist capital.

Mar 01, 2020 | off-guardian.org

Anything can happen, but it seems that both Warren and Biden are going down the tubes, and without yet having been able to stop Bernie. Buttegieg seems to be doing well, but the only reason to expect that to last is that he is a Deep State/CIA-creation like Obama was.

Just as Democrat-supporters have had to find the path to accepting -- or embracing–whatever they are told is necessary to defeat Trump (the CIA, the defiant heroism of Nancy Pelosi in tearing up Trump's speech, the "principled stands" of militarist reactionaries such as John Bolton, Alexander Vindman, and Mitt Romney, and deep hatred and contempt for ordinary people in general -- is there any doubt that there is no limit to how reactionary Democrats and "the Left" can get?), now they will have to accept Michael Bloomberg as the "alternative."

My own view is that Trump is not an "oligarch," because oligarchs exist among other oligarchs; that's a subject for further exploration, but it is clear that Bloomberg is, in fact, such an oligarch.

A thesis regarding the postmodern spectacle: What one might accept, even minimally, at one point, perhaps as necessary in a purely tactical sense ("the Left," broadly speaking), one can come to embrace at a later moment (confirmed OP Democrats who will vote "BNMW"). This is the moving line of bullshit as it moves around what stands in as a "principle" in this scene: "Because Trump."

The moving line really does some fantastic work for the neoliberal-globalist forces who want a "return to normalcy." What people who think of themselves as some kind of "resistance" at first grudgingly accept will later come to embrace.

In the wake of Iowa, and now New Hampshire, there are already good liberals talking up Bloomberg as the best chance for beating Trump -- this includes people who claim they would prefer Bernie. Somehow they are getting past the fact that only Bernie is given a realistic chance of beating Trump in an election. Certainly, things can change, but what is really going on here?

Among OP Dems it seems likely that the instinct for neoliberal globalist "normalcy" is kicking in, and so Dems are proposing to go with an oligarch billionaire -- just yesterday the worst thing on earth -- who has many times the wealth of Trump, and who represents the ugliest sector of globalist capital.

Will those supposedly in the left, and those supposedly to the left, of the Democratic Party, remain dutiful and accept (and then enthusiastically embrace -- again, any- and everything is possible here) this "alternative"?

They have failed every test thus far, but perhaps Sanders can turn them around. As I argued previously, this will take a movement of great strength and depth. Even if Sanders cannot win the general election, he would be doing the world a great favor in defeating Bloomberg. Despite serious reservations, I wish him well in this pursuit.

Of course, if Sanders were to win the nomination but not the general, those who despise him now would despise him that much more, and very likely even many who like him now would turn against him. It is hard not to see the maneuverings of the Clintons here, and even more the Clintonist mainstream of the Democratic Party, and just in recent days trial balloons are floating around with the proposal that Hillary could be Bloomberg's VP pick. No one should be surprised if things turn out the other way 'round.

When one considers this whole mess, and adds to it the way that Identity Politics, at least in its current predominant form as woke ideology for resistance LARPers, fits hand in glove with globalist economic and military agendas, I find it difficult to see how the Trump Disruption, Clarification, and the bits of Experiment that have gained traction are not qualitatively superior.

Of one thing we can be sure, however, namely that the circumnavigations and circumlocutions of those who claim to the contrary will continue to kick into ever-higher gears.

Bill Martin is a philosopher and musician, retired from DePaul University. He is completing a book with the title, "The Trump Clarification: Disruption at the Edge of the System (toward a theory)." His most recent albums are "Raga Chaturanga" (Bill Martin + Zugzwang; Avant-Bass 3) and "Emptiness, Garden: String Quartets nos. 1 and 2 (Ryokucha Bass Guitar Quartet; Avant-Bass 4). He lives in Salina, Kansas, and plays bass guitar with The Radicles.

[Feb 27, 2020] Being Honest About U.S. Foreign Policy by Daniel Larison

Feb 27, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

There was a statement that Sanders made at the debate last night that deserves more attention, because it gets at the heart of the manufactured controversy over Sanders' own past statements and the glaring hypocrisy that defines so many of our foreign policy discussions. Sanders said this:

Excuse me, occasionally it might be a good idea to be honest about American foreign policy [bold mine-DL], and that includes the fact that America has overthrown governments all over the world in Chile, in Guatemala, in Iran. And when dictatorships, whether it is the Chinese or the Cubans do something good, you acknowledge that. But you don't have to trade love letters with them.

Several of Sanders' opponents last night were not interested in being honest about U.S. foreign policy. If they had been interested, they would have to admit that U.S. politicians acknowledge positive developments that take place under authoritarian regimes all the time, and most of the time they do this to justify U.S. support for those governments. The fact is that both Bloomberg and Biden have sometimes said very positive things about repressive authoritarian states without any caveats. They haven't prefaced their praise by saying that this is an oppressive government that violates human rights. They didn't say anything that could be construed as a criticism. Biden touted Mubarak as an ally and refused to call him a dictator just weeks before his ouster. Bloomberg praised the Saudi crown prince and his Vision 2030 plan last year without qualification:

But Bloomberg has praised another murderous dictator – Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, known as MBS – as recently as last year, long after he was implicated in the murder of Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

In a September 2019 interview with Arab News, Bloomberg praised Mohammed bin Salman's "Saudi Vision 2030" plan, focusing especially on its loosening of some restrictions on Saudi women. "I have had a number of women come up to me and say you don't understand this is the best thing that has ever happened to Saudi Arabia because half the population was cut out and now they are going in the right direction," Bloomberg said. He lauded King Salman and MBS for their efforts "to take that country into the new world," saying, "They have made progress going in the right direction."

He didn't acknowledge that MBS had jailed and tortured some prominent Saudi women activists. And Bloomberg didn't mention that 11 months earlier, U.S. permanent resident and Saudi journalist Khashoggi was murdered and dismembered by MBS's own henchmen. International investigators and the CIA later concluded that the killing was a premeditated crime ordered by MBS himself.

This wasn't just a case of Bloomberg letting optimism get the better of him. By the time he said these things, the increasingly repressive nature of the Saudi government under Mohammed bin Salman was well-known. The many war crimes and atrocities committed by his government in Yemen had been in the news for years (and they continue to happen ), Khashoggi's murder had happened almost a year earlier, and he could not have missed the stories about the ongoing detentions and torture of political activists, including Loujain al-Hathloul , who is still imprisoned to this day. As far as political rights are concerned, Saudi Arabia has clearly been moving in the wrong direction, but Bloomberg chose to ignore all of that.

It would be fair to acknowledge that there have been some positive changes in Saudi Arabia over the last few years at the same time that the crown prince has been cracking down on dissent, killing critics, and consolidating power, but if you're going to talk about those changes it would be important to state opposition and condemnation of the Saudi government's myriad abuses. On that occasion, Bloomberg only offered praise, and there is no evidence that he expressed any concern about Saudi government crimes and abuses until he was starting to run for president. The Saudi Arabia example is a telling one, because for the last several years many American politicians and media outlets embarrassed themselves by lavishing nothing but praise on the Saudi crown prince for his "reforms."

As a matter of U.S. policy, Saudi Arabia has been given a pass for the many atrocities it has committed in Yemen because the current administration places more value on selling them weapons and the previous administration wanted to "reassure" them of our support. The issue here is not just the double standard applied to U.S. clients, but that many of our leaders give these governments a pass on their human rights violations and war crimes in order to justify U.S. policies of support for those clients that cause even more death and destruction. In other words, when U.S. politicians praise authoritarian clients, it is usually part of an effort to whitewash the client government's record and to justify providing them with more weapons and aid. There are real consequences and human costs when politicians turn into cheerleaders for these governments.

Biden was vice president when the shameful policy of supporting the war on Yemen began, and when he was part of the Obama administration there is no evidence that he opposed this policy or spoke against it at any point. He has since turned against that policy, but he had nothing to say about it when he could have done something about it. While Bloomberg was singing the crown prince's praises, Sanders has been one of the leading critics of the Saudi government's crimes and an opponent of U.S. enabling of those crimes. Which one would you rather have making foreign policy decisions as president: Mohammed bin Salman's cheerleader or one of his most vocal critics?

[Feb 26, 2020] Should Bloomberg be prosecuted for election fraud?

Feb 26, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Boxed Merlot , 6 hours ago

Twenty-one of those were people that I spent $100 million ...

Names? I mean after all, if a guy's gonna bet frn100m on a hand of black jack, maybe he's in a different class than me. I wonder if he has those folks punching his clock, from the reports of his management style, it sounds like he's more interested in controlling people's lives than in getting things done efficiently.

Akzed , 5 hours ago

That's $4.7M apiece. I forget, what are the limits for individual donations?

Bill of Rights , 6 hours ago

So is the FBI going to investigate Bloomturd for admitted. election fraud?

Laughter fills the room.

waspwench , 5 hours ago

Agreed. Mini-Mike is a control freak.

I would never have thought I would ever even contemplate such a thing but I am concluding that there should be limits on any one person's wealth. Mike has $57 billion and we cannot prevent him from using it to buy the government. There is something seriously wrong with such a scenario.

GreatUncle , 6 hours ago

So Bloomberg just admitted he has been positioning himself to become king.

[Feb 26, 2020] With Neoliberal Democrats like with Trotskyites , the only reality is power

The content was slightly edited for clarity
Notable quotes:
"... With Neoliberal Democrats like with Trotskyites , the only reality is power. For everything else, in any conflict between reality and fantasy, fantasy wins every damn time. ..."
Feb 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

Monotonous Languor , says: Show Comment February 26, 2020 at 3:39 am GMT

in the wake of Sanders' landslide victory in Nevada, a brokered convention would mean the end of the Democrat Party pretense to represent the 99 Percent.

as if it really mattered. Neoliberal Democrats policies are built on manufactured memes, anecdotal narratives, hyperbolic delusions, ephemeral boogeymen, sweeping generalizations, logical fallacies, and bloated definitions. In other words it's lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, all the way up and down the chain.

With Neoliberal Democrats like with Trotskyites , the only reality is power. For everything else, in any conflict between reality and fantasy, fantasy wins every damn time.

[Feb 26, 2020] What brokered convention would mean for candidates and the Dem party

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... But in the wake of Sanders' landslide victory in Nevada, a brokered convention would mean the end of the Democrat Party pretense to represent the 99 Percent. The American voting system would be seen to be as oligarchic as that of Rome on the eve of the infighting that ended with Augustus becoming Emperor in 27 BC. ..."
"... Last year I was asked to write a scenario for what might happen with a renewed DNC theft of the election's nomination process. To be technical, I realize, it's not called theft when it's legal. In the aftermath of suits over the 2016 power grab, the courts ruled that the Democrat Party is indeed controlled by the DNC members, not by the voters. When it comes to party machinations and decision-making, voters are subsidiary to the superdelegates in their proverbial smoke-filled room (now replaced by dollar-filled foundation contracts). ..."
"... I could not come up with a solution that does not involve dismantling and restructuring the existing party system. We have passed beyond the point of having a solvable "problem" with the Democratic National Committee (DNC). That is what a quandary is. A problem has a solution – by definition. A quandary does not have a solution. There is no way out. The conflict of interest between the Donor Class and the Voting Class has become too large to contain within a single party. It must split. ..."
"... A second-ballot super-delegate scenario would mean that we are once again in for a second Trump term. That option was supported by five of the six presidential contenders on stage in Nevada on Wednesday, February 20. When Chuck Todd asked whether Michael Bloomberg, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar would support the candidate who received the most votes in the primaries (now obviously Bernie Sanders), or throw the nomination to the super-delegates held over from the Obama-Clinton neoliberals (75 of whom already are said to have pledged their support to Bloomberg), each advocated "letting the process play out." That was a euphemism for leaving the choice to the Tony-Blair style leadership that have made the Democrats the servants' entrance to the Republican Party. Like the British Labour Party behind Blair and Gordon Brown, its role is to block any left-wing alternative to the Republican program on behalf of the One Percent. ..."
Feb 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

To hear the candidates debate, you would think that their fight was over who could best beat Trump. But when Trump's billionaire twin Mike Bloomberg throws a quarter-billion dollars into an ad campaign to bypass the candidates actually running for votes in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada, it's obvious that what really is at issue is the future of the Democrat Party. Bloomberg is banking on a brokered convention held by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in which money votes. (If "corporations are people," so is money in today's political world.)

Until Nevada, all the presidential candidates except for Bernie Sanders were playing for a brokered convention. The party's candidates seemed likely to be chosen by the Donor Class, the One Percent and its proxies, not the voting class (the 99 Percent). If, as Mayor Bloomberg has assumed, the DNC will sell the presidency to the highest bidder, this poses the great question: Can the myth that the Democrats represent the working/middle class survive? Or, will the Donor Class trump the voting class?

This could be thought of as "election interference" – not from Russia but from the DNC on behalf of its Donor Class. That scenario would make the Democrats' slogan for 2020 "No Hope or Change." That is, no change from today's economic trends that are sweeping wealth up to the One Percent.

All this sounds like Rome at the end of the Republic in the 1st century BC. The way Rome's constitution was set up, candidates for the position of consul had to pay their way through a series of offices. The process started by going deeply into debt to get elected to the position of aedile, in charge of staging public games and entertainments. Rome's neoliberal fiscal policy did not tax or spend, and there was little public administrative bureaucracy, so all such spending had to be made out of the pockets of the oligarchy. That was a way of keeping decisions about how to spend out of the hands of democratic politics. Julius Caesar and others borrowed from the richest Bloomberg of their day, Crassus, to pay for staging games that would demonstrate their public spirit to voters (and also demonstrate their financial liability to their backers among Rome's One Percent). Keeping election financing private enabled the leading oligarchs to select who would be able to run as viable candidates. That was Rome's version of Citizens United.

But in the wake of Sanders' landslide victory in Nevada, a brokered convention would mean the end of the Democrat Party pretense to represent the 99 Percent. The American voting system would be seen to be as oligarchic as that of Rome on the eve of the infighting that ended with Augustus becoming Emperor in 27 BC.

Today's pro-One Percent media – CNN, MSNBC and The New York Times have been busy spreading their venom against Sanders. On Sunday, February 23, CNN ran a slot, "Bloomberg needs to take down Sanders, immediately." Given Sanders' heavy national lead, CNN warned, the race suddenly is almost beyond the vote-fixers' ability to fiddle with the election returns. That means that challengers to Sanders should focus their attack on him; they will have a chance to deal with Bloomberg later (by which CNN means, when it is too late to stop him).

The party's Clinton-Obama recipients of Donor Class largesse pretend to believe that Sanders is not electable against Donald Trump. This tactic seeks to attack him at his strongest point. Recent polls show that he is the only candidate who actually would defeat Trump – as they showed that he would have done in 2016.

The DNC knew that, but preferred to lose to Trump than to win with Bernie. Will history repeat itself? Or to put it another way, will this year's July convention become a replay of Chicago in 1968?

A quandary, not a problem

Last year I was asked to write a scenario for what might happen with a renewed DNC theft of the election's nomination process. To be technical, I realize, it's not called theft when it's legal. In the aftermath of suits over the 2016 power grab, the courts ruled that the Democrat Party is indeed controlled by the DNC members, not by the voters. When it comes to party machinations and decision-making, voters are subsidiary to the superdelegates in their proverbial smoke-filled room (now replaced by dollar-filled foundation contracts).

I could not come up with a solution that does not involve dismantling and restructuring the existing party system. We have passed beyond the point of having a solvable "problem" with the Democratic National Committee (DNC). That is what a quandary is. A problem has a solution – by definition. A quandary does not have a solution. There is no way out. The conflict of interest between the Donor Class and the Voting Class has become too large to contain within a single party. It must split.

A second-ballot super-delegate scenario would mean that we are once again in for a second Trump term. That option was supported by five of the six presidential contenders on stage in Nevada on Wednesday, February 20. When Chuck Todd asked whether Michael Bloomberg, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar would support the candidate who received the most votes in the primaries (now obviously Bernie Sanders), or throw the nomination to the super-delegates held over from the Obama-Clinton neoliberals (75 of whom already are said to have pledged their support to Bloomberg), each advocated "letting the process play out." That was a euphemism for leaving the choice to the Tony-Blair style leadership that have made the Democrats the servants' entrance to the Republican Party. Like the British Labour Party behind Blair and Gordon Brown, its role is to block any left-wing alternative to the Republican program on behalf of the One Percent.

[Feb 26, 2020] Ironically the DEM party has become the Oligarchs party

Notable quotes:
"... This is the PLAN for all WHITE anglo saxon deplorables goyim Illiterate, Unemployed, violent and give them all the (tax subsidized) drugs opiods, pornography, that their subhuman hallow souls desired white genocide/ ..."
"... There is no quandary. The US democracy has long become "one dollar – one vote". Those who still believe that Dems represent working people should not take IQ test to avoid being deeply disappointed. ..."
Feb 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

anonymous [284] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment February 26, 2020 at 10:19 pm GMT

Ironically the DEM party has become the Oligarchs party the DEMs debased themselves abandoning the WORKING class long time ago. The DEM recipe for WHITE conservative deplorables is something like DETROIT model a former city the cradle of the Auto/industrial manufacturing is now a desolated city bankrupt, violence, dilapidated etc.

This is the PLAN for all WHITE anglo saxon deplorables goyim Illiterate, Unemployed, violent and give them all the (tax subsidized) drugs opiods, pornography, that their subhuman hallow souls desired white genocide/

AnonFromTN , says: Show Comment February 26, 2020 at 11:17 pm GMT
There is no quandary. The US democracy has long become "one dollar – one vote". Those who still believe that Dems represent working people should not take IQ test to avoid being deeply disappointed.

[Jan 30, 2020] There is no shortage of people with Visions. I am keeping an eye on this bunch:

Notable quotes:
"... It was no accident that Davos, the promoter of globalization, is so strongly behind the Climate Change agenda. Davos WEF has a board of appointed trustees. Among them is the early backer of Greta Thunberg, climate multi-millionaire, Al Gore, chairman of the Climate Reality Project. WEF Trustees also include former IMF head, now European Central Bank head Christine Lagarde whose first words as ECB chief were that central banks had to make climate change a priority. Another Davos trustee is outgoing Bank of England head Mark Carney, who was just named Boris Johnson's climate change advisor and who warns that pension funds that ignore climate change risk bankruptcy (sic). ..."
"... Of note: Mark Carney upon leaving his position of Governor Bank of England will serve as global warming adviser to Boris Johnson. Who knew Carney was a scientist? ..."
Jan 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Likklemore , Jan 30 2020 15:21 utc | 24

There is no shortage of people with Visions.

'Greta, bonnie Prince Charles and the pirate billionaires and trillionaires'- In another post I queried how did Greta go to Davos? Silly me; Greta was invited the keynote speaker. "Stop Climate change" was this year's theme: the Vision - 'stop the natural cycle of the universe' -
Now she intends to Trademark 'How Dare You' and set up a Foundation Indeed, Greta found her sugar daddies. Adults who encourage truancy.

my grandpa was a wise bloke and admonished "when politicians and do gooders are in the same room, keep an eye on your money."

William F. Engdahl names the pirates in the "Stop Climate" (cycles) Money Trail.
Follow the "Real Money" Behind the "New Green Agenda"

[.] Davos trustees

It was no accident that Davos, the promoter of globalization, is so strongly behind the Climate Change agenda. Davos WEF has a board of appointed trustees. Among them is the early backer of Greta Thunberg, climate multi-millionaire, Al Gore, chairman of the Climate Reality Project. WEF Trustees also include former IMF head, now European Central Bank head Christine Lagarde whose first words as ECB chief were that central banks had to make climate change a priority. Another Davos trustee is outgoing Bank of England head Mark Carney, who was just named Boris Johnson's climate change advisor and who warns that pension funds that ignore climate change risk bankruptcy (sic).

The board also includes the influential founder of Carlyle Group, David M. Rubenstein. It includes Feike Sybesma of the agribusiness giant, Unilever, who is also Chair of the High Level Leadership Forum on Competitiveness and Carbon Pricing of the World Bank Group. And perhaps the most interesting in terms of pushing the new green agenda is Larry Fink, founder and CEO of the investment group BlackRock.[.]

TCFD and SASB Look Closely

As part of his claim to virtue on the new green investing, Fink states that BlackRock was a founding member of the Task Force on Climate-related Financial Disclosures (TCFD). He claims, "For evaluating and reporting climate-related risks, as well as the related governance issues that are essential to managing them, the TCFD provides a valuable framework."[.]

TCFD was created in 2015 by the Bank for International Settlements, chaired by fellow Davos board member and Bank of England head Mark Carney. In 2016 the TCFD along with the City of London Corporation and the UK Government created the Green Finance Initiative, aiming to channel trillions of dollars to "green" investments. The central bankers of the FSB nominated 31 people to form the TCFD. Chaired by billionaire Michael Bloomberg, it includes in addition to BlackRock, JP MorganChase; Barclays Bank; HSBC; Swiss Re, the world's second largest reinsurance; China's ICBC bank; Tata Steel, ENI oil, Dow Chemical, mining giant BHP and David Blood of Al Gore's Generation Investment LLC. Note the crucial role of the central banks here.[.]

Of note: Mark Carney upon leaving his position of Governor Bank of England will serve as global warming adviser to Boris Johnson. Who knew Carney was a scientist?

Pre-alert:

Tax on Excessive garbage output is coming to your town. You will be restricted to xxxKGs/LBS annually. Your garbage will be weighed and at December 31st any excess above the permissible will attract additional tax.
Anyone see the unintended consequences?

[Jan 23, 2020] An incredible level of naivety of people who still think that a single individual, or even two, can change the direction of murderous US policies that are widely supported throughout the bureaucracy?

Highly recommended!
The deep state clearly is running the show (with some people unexpected imput -- see Trump ;-)
Elections now serve mainly for the legitimizing of the deep state rule; election of a particular individual can change little, although there is some space of change due to the power of executive branch. If the individual stray too much form the elite "forign policy consensus" he ether will be JFKed or Russiagated (with the Special Prosecutor as the fist act and impeachment as the second act of the same Russiagate drama)
But a talented (or reckless) individual can speed up some process that are already under way. For example, Trump managed to speed up the process of destruction of the USA-centered neoliberal empire considerably. Especially by launching the trade war with China. He also managed to discredit the USA foreign policy as no other president before him. Even Bush II.
Jan 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Trailer Trash , Jan 23 2020 18:30 utc | 44
>This is the most critical U.S. election in our lifetime
> Posted by: Circe | Jan 23 2020 17:46 utc | 36

Hmmm, I've been hearing the same siren song every four years for the past fifty. How is it that people still think that a single individual, or even two, can change the direction of murderous US policies that are widely supported throughout the bureaucracy?

Bureaucracies are reactionary and conservative by nature, so any new and more repressive policy Trumpy wants is readily adapted, as shown by the continuing barbarity of ICE and the growth of prisons and refugee concentration camps. Policies that go against the grain are easily shrugged off and ignored using time-tested passive-aggressive tactics.

One of Trump's insurmountable problems is that he has no loyal organization behind him whose members he can appoint throughout the massive Federal bureaucracy. Any Dummycrat whose name is not "Biden" has the same problem. Without a real mass-movement political party to pressure reluctant bureaucrats, no politician of any name or stripe will ever substantially change the direction of US policy.

But the last thing Dummycrats want is a real mass movement, because they might not be able to control it. Instead Uncle Sam will keep heading towards the cliff, which may be coming into view...


Per/Norway , Jan 23 2020 19:31 utc | 62

The amount of TINA worshipers and status quo guerillas is starting to depress me.
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE to believe A politician will/can change anything and give your consent to war criminals and traitors?
NO person(s) WILL EVER get to the top in imperial/vassal state politics without being on the rentier class side, the cognitive dissonans in voting for known liars, war criminals and traitors would kill me or fry my brain. TINA is a lie and "she" is a real bitch that deserves to be thrown on the dump off history, YOUR vote is YOUR consent to murder, theft and treason.
DONT be a rentier class enabler STOP voting and start making your local communities better and independent instead.

Per
Norway

Piotr Berman , Jan 23 2020 20:19 utc | 82
The amount of TINA worshipers and status quo guerillas is starting to depress me. <- Norway

Of course, There Is Another Way, for example, kvetching. We can boldly show that we are upset, and pessimistic. One upset pessimists reach critical mass we will think about some actions.

But being upset and pessimistic does fully justify inactivity. In particular, given the nature of social interaction networks, with spokes and hubs, dominating the network requires the control of relatively few nodes. The nature of democracy always allows for leverage takeover, starting from dominating within small to the entire nation in few steps. As it was nicely explained by Prof. Overton, there is a window of positions that the vast majority regards as reasonable, non-radical etc. One reason that powers to be invest so much energy vilifying dissenters, Russian assets of late, is to keep them outside the Overton window.

Having a candidate elected that the curators of Overton window hate definitely shakes the situation with the potential of shifting the window. There were some positive symptoms after Trump was elected, but negatives prevail. "Why not we just kill him" idea entered the window, together with "we took their oil because we have guts and common sense".

From that point of view, visibility of Tulsi and election of Sanders will solve some problems but most of all, it will make big changes in Overton window.

[Jan 23, 2020] Incredible level of naivety of people who still think that a single individual, or even two, can change the direction of murderous US policies that are widely supported throughout the bureaucracy?

Elections now serve mainly the legitimizing of the deep state rule function; election of a partuclar induvudual can change little, althouth there is some space of change due to the power of executive branch.
Jan 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Trailer Trash , Jan 23 2020 18:30 utc | 44

For example, Trump managed to speed up the process od destruction of the USA-centered neoliberal empire considerably. Especially by lauching the trade war with China. He also managed to discredit the USA foreign policy as no other president before him. Even Bush II.

>This is the most critical U.S. election in our lifetime
> Posted by: Circe | Jan 23 2020 17:46 utc | 36

Hmmm, I've been hearing the same siren song every four years for the past fifty. How is it that people still think that a single individual, or even two, can change the direction of murderous US policies that are widely supported throughout the bureaucracy?

Bureaucracies are reactionary and conservative by nature, so any new and more repressive policy Trumpy wants is readily adapted, as shown by the continuing barbarity of ICE and the growth of prisons and refugee concentration camps. Policies that go against the grain are easily shrugged off and ignored using time-tested passive-aggressive tactics.

One of Trump's insurmountable problems is that he has no loyal organization behind him whose members he can appoint throughout the massive Federal bureaucracy. Any Dummycrat whose name is not "Biden" has the same problem. Without a real mass-movement political party to pressure reluctant bureaucrats, no politician of any name or stripe will ever substantially change the direction of US policy.

But the last thing Dummycrats want is a real mass movement, because they might not be able to control it. Instead Uncle Sam will keep heading towards the cliff, which may be coming into view...

[Jan 21, 2020] Money Talks, Bullshit Walks on Cable News by Paul Street

Notable quotes:
"... they promote the nauseating center-right candidacies of the bewildered racist and corporatist Joe Biden, the sinister neoliberal corporate-militarist Pete Butiggieg and even the marginal Wall Street "moderates" Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris? ..."
"... "Follow the money" is the longstanding mantra in campaign finance research and criminal prosecution. ..."
"... At the same time, both U.S. corporate media managers and the advertisers who supply revenue for their salaries are hesitant to produce content that might alienate affluent folks – the people who hire pricey investment advisors, go to Caribbean resorts and buy Jaguars and Mercedes Benzes and count for an ever-rising share of U.S. consumer purchases. It is those with the most purchasing power who are naturally most targeted by advertisers. ..."
Oct 30, 2019 | www.counterpunch.org

Is it any wonder that the nation's "liberal" cable news stations CNN and MSNBC can barely contain their disdain for Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign and even (to a lesser degree) for that of Elizabeth Warren while they promote the nauseating center-right candidacies of the bewildered racist and corporatist Joe Biden, the sinister neoliberal corporate-militarist Pete Butiggieg and even the marginal Wall Street "moderates" Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris?

Next time you click on these stations, keep a pen and paper handy to write down the names of the corporations that pay for their broadcast content with big money commercial purchases.

I did that at various times of day on three separate occasions last week. Here are the companies I found buying ads at CNN and MSDNC:

American Advisors Group (AAG), the top lender the American reverse mortgage industry (with Tom Selleck telling seniors to trust him that reverse mortgages are not a rip off)

United Health Care, for-profit "managed health care company" with 300,000 employers and an annual revenue of $226 billion, ranked sixth on the 2019 Fortune 500.

Menards, the nation's third largest home improvement chain, with revenue over $10 billion in 2017.

CHANITX, a drug to get off cigarettes ("slow Turkey") sold by the pharmaceutical firm Pfizer, 65th on the Fortune 500.

Tom Steyer (billionaire for president)

Lincoln Financial, 187 th on the Fortune 500, an American holding company that controls multiple insurance and investment management businesses.

Liberty Mutual, an insurance company with more than 50,000 employees in more than 900 locations and ranked 68 th on the Fortune 500 two years ago.

Allstate Insurance: 79 th on the Fortune 500, with more than 45,000 employees.

INFINITI Suburban Utility Vehicle (new price ranging from 37K to 60K), produced by Nissan, the sixth largest auto-making corporation in the world.

RCN (annual revenue of $636 million) WiFi for business

Jaguar Elite luxury autos.

Porsche luxury autos, selling new models priced at $115,000, $145,000, and $163,00, and $294,000.

Mercedes Benz luxury auto, including an SRL-Class model that starts at $498,000

Capital Group, one of the world's oldest and biggest investment management firms, with $1.87 trillion in assets under its control.

Otezla, a plaque psoriasis drug, developed by the New Jersey drug company Celgene and owned by Amgene, a leading California-based biotechnology firm with total assets of $78 billion.

Trelegy, a CPD drug produced by the British company GSK, the world's seventh leading pharmaceutical corporation, with the fourth largest capitalization of any company on the London Stock Exchange.

HunterDouglass – elite windows made by a Dutch multinational corporation with more than 23,000 employees and locations in more than 70 countries.

Humira – drug for Crohn's disease and other ailments, manufactured by Abbvie, with 28,000 global employees and total assets of $59 billion.

Primateme Mist – for breathing, produced by Amphastar Pharmaceuticals.

Glucerna – drug for diabetes, produced by Abbot Laboratories, an American medical company with more than 100,00 employees and total assets of $67 billion.

Prevagen – a controversial drug for brain health produced by Quincy Bioscience

DISCOVER Credit Card, the third largest credit card brand in the U.S., with total assets of $92 billion.

Fidelity Investments, an American multinational financial services corporation with more than 50,000 employees and an operating income of $5.3 billion.

Cadillac XT-6 high-end SUV, starting at $53K, made by General Motors (no. 10 on the Fortune 500 for total revenue), which makes automobiles in 37 countries, employees 173,000 persons, and has total assets $227 billion.

Comfort Inn, owned by Choice Hotels, one of the largest hotel chains in the world, franchising 7,005 properties in 41 countries and territories.

Audible/Amazon – books on tape from the world's biggest mega-corporation Amazon, ranked fifth on the Fortune 500, with 647,000 employees and total assets of $163 billion.

Ring Home Security, owned by Amazon

Coventry Health Insurance, no. 168 on the Fortune 500

SANDALS Resorts International, with 16 elite resort properties in the Caribbean.

Cigna Medicare Advantage, owned by the national health insurer Cigna, no. 229 on the Fortune 500

SoFi Finance, an online personal finance company that provides student loan refinancing, mortgages and personal loans.

Ameriprise Finance, an investment services firm, no. 240 on F500.

It's not for nothing that bit Fortune 500 firms are represented in my anecdotal sponsor list above. Last summer, SQAD MediaCosts reported that a 30-second commercial during CNN's prime-time lineup (Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo, and Don Lemon), cost between $7,000 and $12,000. The price has certainly gone up significantly now that Trumpeachment is bringing in new eyeballs.

The three most prominent and recurrent advertising streams appear (anecdotally) to come from Big Pharma (the leading drug companies), insurance (health insurance above all), and finance (investment services/wealth management). These giant concentrated corporate and industry sectors are naturally opposed to the financial regulation and anti-trust policy that Senator Warren says she wants to advance. Amazon can hardly be expected to back the big-tech break-up that Warren advocates.

Big corporate lenders certainly have no interest in making college tuition free, a Sanders promise that would slash a major profit source for finance capital.

The big health insurance firms are naturally opposed both to the Single Payer national health insurance plan that Sanders puts at the top of his platform and to the milder version of Medicare for All that Warren says she backs. Warren and especially Sanders pledge to remove the parasitic, highly expensive profit motive from health insurance and to make publicly funded quality and affordable health care a human right in the U.S. The corporate insurance mafia is existentially opposed to such human decency.

Both of the "progressive Democratic candidates" (a description that fits Sanders far better than it does Warren) loudly promise to slash drug costs, something Pfizer, Abbvie, Amgene, Amphastar, and Abbot Labs can hardly be expected to relish.

None of the big companies buying advertising time on CNN and MSNBC have any interest in the progressive taxation and restored union organizing and collective bargaining rights that Sanders advocates.

The big financial services firms paying for media content on "liberal" cable news stations primarily serve affluent clients, many if not most of whom are likely to oppose increased taxes on the well off.

The resort, tourism, luxury car, and business travel firms that buy commercials on these networks are hardly about to back policies leading to the real or potential reduction of discretionary income enjoyed by upper middle class and rich people.

So, gosh, who do these corporate and financial interests favor in the 2020 presidential election? Neoliberal Corporatists like Joe Biden, Pete Butiggieg, Kamala Harris, and Amy Klobuchar, of course. Dutifully obedient to the preferences and commands of the nation's unelected dictatorship of money, these insipid corporate Democrats loyally claim that Sanders and Warren want to viciously "tax the middle class" to pay for supposedly unaffordable excesses like Medicare for All and the existentially necessary Green New Deal.

In reality, Single Payer and giant green jobs programs and more that We the People need and want are eminently affordable if the United States follows Sanders' counsel by adequately and progressively taxing its absurdly wealthy over-class (the top tenth of the upper 1% than owns more than 90% of U.S. wealth) and its giant, surplus-saturated corporations and financial institutions. At the same time, as Warren keeps trying to explain, the cost savings for ordinary Americans will be enormous with the profits system taken out of health insurance.

Sanders reminds voters that there's no way to calculate the cost savings of keeping livable ecology alive for future generations. The climate catastrophe is a grave existential threat to the whole species.

These are basic arguments of elementary social, environmental, and democratic decency that the investors and managers behind and atop big corporations buying commercials on CNN and MSNBC don't want heard. As a result, CNN and MSDNC "debate" moderators and talking heads persist in purveying the, well, fake news, that Sanders doesn't know how to pay Single Payer, free public college, and a Green New Deal.

It's not for nothing that CNN and MSNBC have promoted the hapless Biden over and above Sanders and Warren – this notwithstanding the former Vice President's ever more obvious and embarrassing inadequacy as a candidate.

It's not for nothing that MSNBC and CNN have habitually warned against the supposed "socialist" menace posed by the highly popular Sanders (a New Deal progressive at leftmost) while refusing to properly describe Trump's White House and his dedicated base as pro-fascists. MSDNC has even get a weekly segment to the silver-spooned multi-millionaire advertising executive Donny Deutsch after he said the following on the network last winter:

"I find Donald Trump reprehensible as a human being, but a socialist candidate is more dangerous to this company, country, as far as the strength and well-being of the country, than Donald Trump. I would vote for Donald Trump, a despicable human being I will be so distraught to the point that that could even come out of my mouth, if we have a socialist [Democratic presidential candidate or president] because that will take our country so down, and we are not Denmark. I love Denmark, but that's not who we are. And if you love who we are and all the great things that still have to have binders put on the side. Please step away from the socialism."

It's not for nothing that the liberal cable networks go out of their way to deny Sanders remotely appropriate broadcast time. Or that they habitually and absurdly frame Single Payer health insurance not as the great civilizing social and human rights victory it would be (the long-overdue cost-slashing de-commodification of health care coverage combined with the provision of health care for all regardless of social status and class) but rather as a dangerous and authoritarian assault on Americans' existing (and unmentionably inadequate and over-expensive) health insurance.

Dare we mention that the lords of capital who pay for cable news salaries and content are heavily invested in the fossil fuels and in the relentless economic growth that are pushing the planet rapidly towards environmental tipping points that gravely endanger prospects for a decent and organized human existence in coming decades?

It's not for nothing that the progressive measures advanced by Sanders and supported by most Americans are regularly treated as "unrealistic," "irresponsible," "too radical," "too idealistic," "impractical," and "too expensive."

It's for nothing that Sanders is commonly left out of the liberal cable networks' campaign coverage and "horse race" discussions even as he enjoys the highest approval rating among all the candidates in the running.

With their preferred centrist candidate Joe Biden having performed in a predictably poor and buffoonish fashion (Biden was a terrible, gaffe-prone politician well before his brains started coming out of his ears) falling back into something like a three-way tie with the liberal Warren and the populist progressive Sanders, the liberal cable talking heads and debate moderators have naturally tried to boost "moderate" neoliberal-corporatist "second" and "third tier" Democratic presidential candidates like Butiggieg, Klobuchar and the surprisingly weak Kamala Harris. It's not for nothing that these and other marginal corporate candidates (e.g. Beto O'Rourke) get outsized attention on "liberal" cable stations regardless of their tiny support bases. Even if they can't win, these small-time contenders take constant neoliberal jabs at Sanders and even at the more clearly corporate-co-optable Warren (who proudly describes herself as "capitalist in my bones").

Thanks to Harris's curiously weak showing, Biden's dotard-like absurdity, and the likely non-viability of Butiggieg (the U.S. is not yet primed for two men and a baby in the White House), the not-so liberal cable channels are now joining the New Yok Times and Washington Post in gently floating the possibility of a dark-horse neoliberal Democratic Party newcomer (Michael Bloomberg, John Kerry, Michelle Obama, Sherrod Brown, and maybe even Hillary Clinton herself) to fill Joke Biden's Goldman-and Citigroup-approved shoes in the coming primary and Caucus battles with "radical socialist" Bernie and (not-so) "left" Warren.

So what if running an establishment Obama-Clinton-Citigroup-Council on Foreign Relations Democrat in 2020 will de-mobilize much of the nation's progressive electoral base, helping the malignant white nationalist monster Donald Trump get a second term?

As the old working-class slogan says, "money talks and bullshit walks."

"Follow the money" is the longstanding mantra in campaign finance research and criminal prosecution. It should also apply to our understanding of the dominant media's political news content. U.S. media managers are employed by giant corporations (MSNBC is a division of Comcast NBC Universal, no. 71 on the Fortune 500 and CNN is owned by Turner Broadcasting, no, 68 on the Fortune 500) that are naturally reluctant to publish or broadcast material that might offend the wealthy capitalist interests that pay for broadcasting by purchasing advertisements. As Noam Chomsky has noted, large corporations are not only the major producers of the United States' mass commercial media. They are also that media's top market, something that deepens the captivity of nation's supposedly democratic and independent media to big capital:

"The reliance of a journal on advertisers shapes and controls and substantially determines what is presented to the public the very idea of advertiser reliance radically distorts the concept of free media. If you think about what the commercial media are, no matter what, they are businesses. And a business produces something for a market. The producers in this case, almost without exception, are major corporations. The market is other businesses – advertisers. The product that is presented to the market is readers (or viewers), so these are basically major corporations providing audiences to other businesses, and that significantly shapes the nature of the institution."

At the same time, both U.S. corporate media managers and the advertisers who supply revenue for their salaries are hesitant to produce content that might alienate affluent folks – the people who hire pricey investment advisors, go to Caribbean resorts and buy Jaguars and Mercedes Benzes and count for an ever-rising share of U.S. consumer purchases. It is those with the most purchasing power who are naturally most targeted by advertisers.

Money talks, bullshit talks on "liberal" cable news, as in the legal and party and elections systems and indeed across all of society.

Watch the wannabe fascist strongman Trump walk to a second term with no small help from a "liberal" corporate media whose primary goal is serving corporate sponsors and its own bottom line, not serving social justice, environmental sanity, and democracy – or even helping Democrats win elections.

[Dec 13, 2019] Verified Voting, the national advocacy group seeking accountable election results, has been "providing cover" for untrustworthy new voting systems

Dec 13, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

"Why this expert warns that a voting watchdog has 'lost its way' -- and our elections are at risk" [ Alternet ]. "Verified Voting, the national advocacy group seeking accountable election results, has been "providing cover" for untrustworthy new voting systems and the public officials buying them, according to an esteemed academic board member who has resigned in protest

To be accused by the inventor of its "gold-standard" audit solution of selling out while states and counties are buy voting technology that will be used into the 2030s is remarkable .

Stark and other critics say that the cards produced by a so-called ballot-marking device (BMD) may not be accurate because potentially insecure software sits between a voter's fingers and the printout.

Thus, Stark contends that his audit tool cannot assess if the reported result is correct. Also, BMD systems are far more costly than hand-marked ballot systems, he and other critics have said.

They note that the acquisition costs are followed by per-machine service agreements designed to generate millions in annual revenues for vendors." • On BMDs, see NC here .

[Dec 06, 2019] The top .01 percent of all income earners in the United States accounted for 29 percent of all political committee fundraising.

Dec 06, 2019 | www.nbcnews.com

It has long required the support of the wealthy -- and a certain level of personal wealth -- to run for president of the United States. In 2016, billions of dollars were raised by Donald Trump's and Hillary Clinton's presidential campaigns. But the rich control much of this cash flow . In 2014, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, the top .01 percent of all income earners in the United States accounted for 29 percent of all political committee fundraising.

There are many reasons why this is a dangerous thing. But a big one is accountability.

[Nov 03, 2019] On seeing Astra Taylor's What is Democracy

Notable quotes:
"... At a first approximation, democracy is the alliance of the city dwellers for the power of the city, ignoring tribes and rural aristocrats, carefully contained so the landowners keep their land, and the slaves are kept under control. Or, to update it, the class collaboration of the wealthy (nowadays some sort of capitalist,) the middling strata and the common people for the power of the nation, carefully arranged so the people with great property make the decisions about the economy. ..."
"... As an example, it's only in the last few years I've wakened up to the extraordinary tendency to people to ignore either the progressive content of bourgeois revolutions, such as in pretending that destroying a national secular state in Iraq or Syria and replacing it with a cantonal confederation is a step backward. Or in surreptitiously pretending that democracy has nothing to do with the democratic state needing fighters against other states. Like most people on the internet, i do tend to get a little trendy, and repetitive. But apparently I'm too socially backward to get the memo on the correct trendy, and repetitive. ..."
"... The classic model of course was the Roman Republic. By coincidence I was reading Livy's first five books and the relationship between rights for the plebs and the need for them in war, stands out. Macchiavelli's Discourses on Livy makes this even plainer. In the US much of this was conveyed to the Americans via Algernon Sidney's Discourses on Government as refracted through Cato's Letters. (I hope to live long enough to read Discourses on Davila by John Adams, solely because of the title.) ..."
"... It would seem to me that the answer to the question "what is democracy" is best answered by another question: who gets (and doesn't get) the franchise? ..."
Nov 03, 2019 | crookedtimber.org

I went to see occasional Timberite Astra Taylor's remarkable film What is Democracy? last night. It takes us from Siena, Italy to Florida to Athens and from Ancient Athenian democracy through the renaissance and the beginning of capitalism to the Greek debt crisis, occupy and the limbo life of people who have fled Syria and now find themselves stuck. It combines the voices of Plato and Rousseau with those of ordinary voters from left and right, Greek nationalists and cosmopolitans, ex-prisoners, with trauma surgeons in Miami, Guatemalan migrants in the US, with lawmakers and academics, and with refugees from Syria and Afghanistan. All the while it poses the questions of whether democracy is compatible with inequality and global financial systems and the boundaries of inclusion.


steven t johnson 10.23.19 at 3:05 pm (no link)

At a first approximation, democracy is the alliance of the city dwellers for the power of the city, ignoring tribes and rural aristocrats, carefully contained so the landowners keep their land, and the slaves are kept under control. Or, to update it, the class collaboration of the wealthy (nowadays some sort of capitalist,) the middling strata and the common people for the power of the nation, carefully arranged so the people with great property make the decisions about the economy.

It doesn't sound like this is very informative or useful, so I will wait until I have a cheaper way to see it.

Z 10.23.19 at 8:38 pm (no link)
In my opinion, democracy as an actually existing property of a society is only imperfectly described in terms of institutional arrangements, philosophical constructs, political system or (as steven t johnson would have it) power relations between social groups. In addition to all that, but probably prior to all that, democracy relies on principles which are anthropological in nature, that pertains to the particular way human beings relate to each other on a given territory.

This means that I absolutely believe in the necessity of a "we" to underlie democracy but I doubt that this "we" needs to be (or indeed is ever) constitutive, it exists primarily if not exclusively as a matter of human relations not as a constitutive abstraction. This also means that I'm not surprised by the general absence of convergence in democratic forms around the world (much to the bemusement of English-speaking political philosophers, or in the last 20 years, German and Flemish politicians) and that I believe that global citizenship is under present circumstances a meaningless concept with respect to democracy. Some people understand this to be arguing for a national, ethnic or cultural definition of democracy, in which only people with a specific national identity, or a particular ethnicity, or specific cultural practices or (in the contemporary American libertarian version) specific personality traits may participate, as a matter of normative or positive judgment, depending on various proponents of this theory. This seems to me to be a rather ironic analytical error: if indeed a core property of democracy is rooted in the characteristic ways people relate to each other, it is highly implausible that this could change under the influence of even a substantial minority (in one direction or the other).

Incidentally, the idea that democracy is originally native to North-America is somewhat classical (Voltaire championed it, but as usual with him, it is hard to vouch for his seriousness). Since then it has resurfaced periodically for instance in William James Sidis (disturbed) book The Tribes and the States or in the works of Bruce Johansen. Serious discussions of this question lead, I believe, to the seemingly paradoxical observation that English and Dutch settlers came to adopt the democratic principles of the Haudenosaunee because they were themselves rather primitive (temporally speaking), and hence democratic, in their anthropological values. Suc discussion would also lead to the far more pessimistic conclusion that beyond their political models, native people in North-America facilitated the establishment of a political democracy by providing a large neighboring group to exclude out of humanity.

steven t johnson 10.23.19 at 8:49 pm ( 12 )
LFC@10 uses a reason for waiting as an excuse for a rhetorical question meant as a taunt. The reason I might see it, if it's cheap enough, is because new facts and the (rare) new perspective, if any, would seep into my thinking. The idea that my thinking doesn't change is unfounded. It changes, it just doesn't change by conversion experience. The cogent arguments of the wise on the internet are like Jesus on the road to Damascus, not quite able to be described consistently, but still irrefutable.

But, try as I may, continual reworking of old ideas by new -- to me -- information inevitably leads to the change. The process usually goes A Is that really true? B My old ideas get a parenthesis added. C The parenthesis gets worked into the rest of the paragraph so that I'm more consisten. D I've always believed that. The step where I abjectly plead for forgiveness for being a moron is never there, any more than actually being consistent.

As an example, it's only in the last few years I've wakened up to the extraordinary tendency to people to ignore either the progressive content of bourgeois revolutions, such as in pretending that destroying a national secular state in Iraq or Syria and replacing it with a cantonal confederation is a step backward. Or in surreptitiously pretending that democracy has nothing to do with the democratic state needing fighters against other states. Like most people on the internet, i do tend to get a little trendy, and repetitive. But apparently I'm too socially backward to get the memo on the correct trendy, and repetitive.

For a less contentious example, as part of the process I've realized that ancient Sparta was on the democratic spectrum, not least because of two kings which is definitely not twice the monarchy. This may seem counter-intuitive, but it is still true, despite authority. But a true expert who actually cared could revise the elementary insight into a much more sophisticated, much superior way that might not even seem controversial. It might even seem just like the answer to the questions: Why did Sparta ever ally with Athens in the first place? Why did both Athens and Sparta ally (at different times) with Persia?

I will admit to a general prejudice against every historical discovery that a particular place etc. was the birth of virtue.

steven t johnson 10.24.19 at 3:20 pm (no link)
Re the Haudenosaunee as exemplars of democracy, this is as I recall long known to be true of Benjamin Franklin, one of the disreputable founders, nearly as disgraced as Tom Paine. (Indeed, the notion that the revolutionaries weren't the founders, but Philadelphia lawyers' convention was, is remarkable, though unremarked on.) But, what did Franklin admire about the Iroquois League? I think it was the power through unity of different "tribes." The league essentially genocided the Hurons to control the fur trade; launched long distance military expeditions to drive away many other peoples from large areas in the Ohio valley to free up hunting grounds; when it was convenient, they sold their rights, lands, there to the US. (The treaty of Fort Stanwix) was later repudiated, verbally at least, by other.

The classic model of course was the Roman Republic. By coincidence I was reading Livy's first five books and the relationship between rights for the plebs and the need for them in war, stands out. Macchiavelli's Discourses on Livy makes this even plainer. In the US much of this was conveyed to the Americans via Algernon Sidney's Discourses on Government as refracted through Cato's Letters. (I hope to live long enough to read Discourses on Davila by John Adams, solely because of the title.)

eg 10.25.19 at 2:35 am ( 17 )
It would seem to me that the answer to the question "what is democracy" is best answered by another question: who gets (and doesn't get) the franchise?

[Sep 24, 2019] The greatest single hold of "the interests" is the fact that they are the "campaign contributors"

That's to who political power belongs under late capitalism and neoliberalism: financial oligarchy. He who pays the piper calls the tune: " Do you imagine those who foot those huge bills are fools? Don't you know that they make sure of getting their money back, with interest, compound upon compound? "
Notable quotes:
"... Here we all are, piddling around with why Nancy Pelosi won't release the hounds in the House of Representatives, and waiting for some poor bastard in intelligence to come forward with what he really knows, and with a vulgar talking yam still in office. Meanwhile, Bill Weld has cut right to the heel of the hunt. You think you can't scare this guy? Put the gallows in his eyes. I mean, wow." ..."
"... " The greatest single hold of "the interests" is the fact that they are the "campaign contributors" -- the men who supply the money for "keeping the party together," and for "getting out the vote." Did you ever think where the millions for watchers, spellbinders, halls, processions, posters, pamphlets, that are spent in national, state and local campaigns come from? Who pays the big election expenses of your congressman, of the men you send to the legislature to elect senators? ..."
Sep 24, 2019 | economistsview.typepad.com

EMichael , September 23, 2019 at 08:55 AM

Kudos to at least one Republican.

"Well, Bill Weld, former governor of the Commonwealth (God save it!), really shot the moon to begin the week. Appearing on MSNBC, Weld made it plain. From the Washington Post:

"Talk about pressuring a foreign country to interfere with and control a U.S. election," Weld said during an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"It couldn't be clearer, and that's not just undermining democratic institutions. That is treason. It's treason, pure and simple, and the penalty for treason under the U.S. code is death. That's the only penalty...The penalty under the Constitution is removal from office, and that might look like a pretty good alternative to the president if he could work out a plea deal.""

Well, all right, then.

Here we all are, piddling around with why Nancy Pelosi won't release the hounds in the House of Representatives, and waiting for some poor bastard in intelligence to come forward with what he really knows, and with a vulgar talking yam still in office. Meanwhile, Bill Weld has cut right to the heel of the hunt. You think you can't scare this guy? Put the gallows in his eyes. I mean, wow."

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29191267/president-trump-treason-bill-weld/

EMichael -> EMichael... , September 23, 2019 at 08:58 AM
Also from that link:

" The greatest single hold of "the interests" is the fact that they are the "campaign contributors" -- the men who supply the money for "keeping the party together," and for "getting out the vote." Did you ever think where the millions for watchers, spellbinders, halls, processions, posters, pamphlets, that are spent in national, state and local campaigns come from? Who pays the big election expenses of your congressman, of the men you send to the legislature to elect senators?

Do you imagine those who foot those huge bills are fools? Don't you know that they make sure of getting their money back, with interest, compound upon compound? Your candidates get most of the money for their campaigns from the party committees; and the central party committee is the national committee with which congressional and state and local committees are affiliated. The bulk of the money for the "political trust" comes from "the interests." "The interests" will give only to the "political trust."

Our part as citizens of the republic is plain enough. We must stand our ground. We must fight the good fight. Heartsick and depressed as we may be at times because of the spread of graft in high places and its frightfully contaminating influence, we must still hold up our heads. We must never lose an opportunity to show that as private citizens we are opposed to public plunderers."

Written in 1906

[Sep 15, 2019] Politics in America is a function of those who control the public forum via the MSM

Those who control the public forum, as Spengler pointed out, obviously use their control to further their own interests and no others. Why in the world would an American-hating MSM give Americans an equal voice?
Notable quotes:
"... These educated lemmings believe what they're spoon fed by CNN or Fox News. They cannot possibly accept that they're immune to facts and disproof of their cherished assumptions because they've been emotionally conditioned on a subconscious level, after which facts and reasoning are emotionally reacted to like they were personal attacks. ..."
"... A newly scripted financial crisis will complete transfer of much of America's corporate assets to the government when the $7 trillion in private retirement assets is appropriated in emergency legislation, immediately conceded by the Republicans amid the usual handwringing and crocodile tears. In exchange Americans will receive rapidly deflating gov bonds that will be accepted as the new store of wealth, which it will be for the elites who own American as surely as they do in Venezuela. ..."
Sep 15, 2019 | www.unz.com

DanFromCT , says: September 14, 2019 at 1:37 pm GMT

Politics in America is a function of those who control the public forum via the msm. Those who control the public forum, as Spengler pointed out, obviously use their control to further their own interests and no others. Why in the world would an American-hating msm give Americans an equal voice?

The msm aren't merely some unfortunate artifact of the First Amendment we have to live. The msm control the formation of men's minds. As Jacques Ellul points out in his masterpiece on propaganda, it's those among us who're most educated and most inclined to closely follow the "news" who are most susceptible to brainwashing. These educated lemmings believe what they're spoon fed by CNN or Fox News. They cannot possibly accept that they're immune to facts and disproof of their cherished assumptions because they've been emotionally conditioned on a subconscious level, after which facts and reasoning are emotionally reacted to like they were personal attacks.

This explains why college educated white women are the Dems' winning edge, trading empty moral posturing for condemning their own children and grandchildren to die hounded and dispossessed in their own land. But there are never any consequences when they insist they have the best of intentions. These women whose thoughts are authored by their own people's enemies will probably put a Warren or one of the other Marxists over the top in 2020.

A newly scripted financial crisis will complete transfer of much of America's corporate assets to the government when the $7 trillion in private retirement assets is appropriated in emergency legislation, immediately conceded by the Republicans amid the usual handwringing and crocodile tears. In exchange Americans will receive rapidly deflating gov bonds that will be accepted as the new store of wealth, which it will be for the elites who own American as surely as they do in Venezuela.

[Aug 15, 2019] Legitimacy of elections

Paper ballot with both parties reps participating in counting them is the only 100% secure method. Addition of electronics always lessen security.
Aug 15, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

"Judge: Georgia must scrap old voting machines after 2019" [ Associated Press ]. "U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg's order on Thursday prohibits the state from using its antiquated paperless touchscreen machines and election management system beyond this year. She also said the state must be ready to use hand-marked paper ballots if its new system isn't in place for the March 24 presidential primary election."

[Aug 11, 2019] Critical U.S. Election Systems Have Been Left Exposed Online Despite Official Denials

Aug 11, 2019 | www.vice.com

"The top voting machine company [Election Systems & Software] in the country insists that its election systems are never connected to the internet. But researchers found 35 of the systems have been connected to the internet for months and possibly years, including in some swing states." • The only reason I can imagine, besides corruption, for election officials to buy these things is that they want the capability to fix elections, and that goes for both parties.

[Jun 18, 2019] Are Microsoft The Pentagon Quietly Hijacking US Elections

Presence of two opposing parties during counting of votes and communicating the results up is the necessary prerequsite. Paper ballots should be mandatory. Internet translation of voting like they do in Russia is helpful. So voting can easily be improved and make tampering proof.
The real problem is the selection of candidates for which you votes (two in two-party system). Here we have a real problem because this process is controlled by ruing oligarchy.
Notable quotes:
"... The ruling elite have no interest in making sure our voices are heard ..."
"... If they sought to have our voices heard, we would have paper ballots, ranked choice voting, real exit polls and a president who doesn't look and act like an over-cooked ham-and-cheese sandwich. ..."
"... It's time to demand real elections. ..."
"... Paper ballots should be mandatory, in triplicate, with the voter depositing copy A in the ballot box, mailing copy B to one of any approved secondary processing centers, chosen by the voters, retaining copy C for ones records and online verification that copies A and B remain true. ..."
Jun 18, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Election forensics analyst Jonathan Simon said , "The great irony, and tragedy, here is that we could easily go the opposite direction and quickly solve all the problems of election security if we got the computers out of the process and were willing to invest the modicum of effort needed for humans to count votes observably in public as they once did."

Jonathan Simon, god bless him, has used 55 words to say 11: We could easily fix our fraudulent election system, but we won't.

The answer is not to hand it over to Microsoft and the Pentagon and the ass clowns who make robotic death machines. The Pentagon can't keep track of $21 TRILLION DOLLARS over the past 20 years -- what makes us think they can keep track of hundreds of millions of votes?

The ruling elite have no interest in making sure our voices are heard. They want that as much as they want nunchucks to the balls. If they sought to have our voices heard, we would have paper ballots, ranked choice voting, real exit polls and a president who doesn't look and act like an over-cooked ham-and-cheese sandwich.

It's time to demand real elections.


SybilDefense , 1 hour ago link

I thought George Soros owns (controlling interest) %56 of all voting machines

Soros linked to voting machine mfrs

Now with Microsoft providing the lib-genda software...what could go wrong?

All this whiz bang gadgetry for unimportant things, like elections but when the Gov really wants info it's "fill this out in triplicate Mr Smith"!

Paper ballots should be mandatory, in triplicate, with the voter depositing copy A in the ballot box, mailing copy B to one of any approved secondary processing centers, chosen by the voters, retaining copy C for ones records and online verification that copies A and B remain true.

I see no reason why states couldn't swap ballots, allowing state 2 to "grade state 1's homework". At the end of the day, the state 1 opens a lottery drawn code telling them who will be grading their papers. For Example, at poll close, CA opens the supersecret envelope (reminiscient of Karnac the Great on Johnny Carson), revealing that TX will be in charge of processing CAs validation count. If it's off by a statistical significance...no fed money for the offending state until corrected)

There has to be a better way, and Microsoft/Soros/DARPA isn't going to enstill the confidence this country needs to survive. A #2 pencil, a few black dots and independent verification with (voter retained) proof is so simple it just may work. If the voter isn't intelligent enough to color the circle, they shouldn't be voting.

Ballot box computers should be reserved for researching the candidates, not for harboring the only copy of your choices...

Here's hoping Brenda Snipes isn't in charge of counting your 2020 Trump vote!

darktideac , 1 hour ago link

Yep, the US election system is the most stupid system I know. Why not just use paper votes or block-chain voting over the internet?

schroedingersrat , 2 hours ago link

The funny thing is.. even if they tamper with elections. Your vote never mattered anyway!

Yars Revenge , 5 hours ago link

Now we know the deep state purpose of "Russian meddling" and "interfering in our elections.

Its to justify installing security software on voting machines to "protect us."

platitudipus , 5 hours ago link

If you think the 2016 elections were a ****-show, wait until you see the fireworks we have planned for 2020.

emmanuelthoreau , 6 hours ago link

Technology is destroying most if not all of western civilization's institutions, and replacing them with nothing but mobocracy. The feedback effect means that every 3-4 years the power of the loudest and most popular -- and hence the lowest common denominator -- gets amped up another few degrees. It is not abating. The phones are everywhere, everywhere , in public. Necks bent over everywhere. When they can get these things synced up to eye movement on a headset or pair of glasses for mass consumption (meaning, really, really easy to use), look out. Silence, baby. Human race goes under.

If you were raised in an oddball environment before computers -- and then smartphones -- infested every corner of the human imagination, it's obvious what's happened. 40 years ago people didn't behave this way. They had tons of problems, sure, and those were fucked up times, but at least there was still some fight left in them. I just see a bitter, aggrieved, very small-minded set of people out there now, absorbed in themselves, their genitalia/identity/skin color, who have nothing to offer this planet except destruction. I have come to believe they will succeed. I could walk away from all this tech tomorrow and wouldn't blink an eye. But I realize that for many, that would be an event akin to becoming a quadruple amputee.

We've always been cynical about how much a single vote can mean, but for the most part, people have believed that their vote showed up somewhere, numerically, in a digit in a column in a newspaper every other November. If nothing else. Once that belief goes out the window, forget it. What, then, will tie you to the land or the people around you? The law? Ha. Only force, and that means outright tyranny. Which is what democracy, Socrates argued in The Republic, always leads to.

And all to serve these ******* computers instead of ourselves.

Overdrawn , 7 hours ago link

In UK we have paper ballot papers and postal voting, both have been abused recently by the Labour Party.

One man boasted on Twitter than he burnt over 1,000 votes for the Brexit Party, so effectively they would have won the election had this crime against democracy not been committed.

Police Investigating Mystery Man Who Claims He 'BURNED' Brexit Party Votes

https://www.politicalite.com/peterborough-by-election/exclusive-police-investigating-mystery-man-who-claims-he-burned-brexit-party-votes/

Fraud, Convicts, And Ethnic Exploitation – How Peterborough Was REALLY Won

https://www.politicalite.com/election-2019/exclusive-fraud-convicts-and-ethnic-exploitation-how-peterborough-was-really-won/

stopEUSSR , 7 hours ago link

Why bother hijacking an election, when the deep state choose both candidates? And just because you use paper ballots doesn't mean it still can't be rigged. We use paper ballots in the UK, but elections can be rigged through the postal voting system amoungst other things.

CosineCosineCosine , 7 hours ago link

Now THIS is cathartic journalism :))

Why do we need an answer? Well, our election system is... how do you say... a festering rancid corrupt needlessly complex rigged rotten infected putrid pus-covered diseased dog pile of stinking, dying cockroach-filled rat **** smelling like Mitch McConnell under a vat of pig farts. And that's a quote from The Lancet medical journal (I think).

But have no fear: The most trustworthy of corporations recently announced it is going to selflessly and patriotically secure our elections. It's a small company run by vegans and powered by love. It goes by the name "Microsoft." (You're forgiven for never having heard of it.)

😊

Also - unless these voting machines are Faraday caged AND have Mu metal layers, they could be monitored or interfered with in real time, even if air gapped.

E.g. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/a-faraday-cage-or-air-gap-cant-protect-your-device-data-from-these-two-cyberattacks/

Know the basics of this and you're already a 1 in 100,000 tech red piller ;)

Passport ID, Paper system with a duplicate receipt ... ironically like Venezuela's system (the one thing they got right it seems) and monitoring of voting areas and counting streamed to the net of every polling station (ironically like the newish Russian system) make it close to foolproof and certainly verifiable if questioned and accountable.

runningman18 , 7 hours ago link

The elites hijacked elections a long time ago using the false left/right paradigm. Just look at the banksters in Trump's cabinet to see the proof.

Baron Samedi , 7 hours ago link

Auditable paper ballots for voters with verifiable identity - preferably with receipts - and dye-marking the hands of the voters.

We are a long way from secure elections. Our (((oligarchy))) wouldn't have it any other way!

Remember the old refrains: "If voting could change anything it'd be illegal." -- Emma Goldman, and "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do." -- Joseph Stalin

wkirkpa , 7 hours ago link

Wow. Dude just climbed out from under his favourite rock and met the reality gnome. Good for him.

I'm good with technology. I wasted whole moments of my life pondering electronic elections. Here's the thing. There is NO manner of electronic election process that does not forfeit one, or more, mandatory elements required of a free and fair election process. None. At all. Can't be done.

Mike Rotsch , 7 hours ago link

Meanwhile, as we approach election time, we have cyber-operations taking place without Trump's knowledge.

He–Mene Mox Mox , 8 hours ago link

This article is nuts and full of BS! The Pentagon could care less who is president, since they only have to worry about congress funding them. Also, Microsoft is more worried about profits than people. Just ask anyone who works there.

The hijacking of American elections has been going on for 165 years. That is why almost every state has Ballot Access Laws, and why practically every district in the U.S. are gerrymandered by the two parties. And, you never had any truly free elections either, since the parties chose the candidates for you in the primaries, and all you do is ratify their selections. Your vote is rather meaningless.

GreatUncle , 8 hours ago link

I went to bed after having voted for BREXIT and through all the propaganda thought BREMAIN had won. I woke up the next morning and BREXIT had won. Those in tears were all BREMAIN as they thought they would win because the propaganda was so complete against the people.

SO NOW THEY ARE GOING TO FIX THE RESULT TO MAKE THE VOTES REFLECT THE PROPAGANDA.

One more step put in place the next step has to be to close down all channels of objection or certainly throttle it back to prevent people discussing it - the scrutiny of those being fit for public office removed.

[May 15, 2019] CNN MSNBC Caught Meddling in US Democracy by Joe Giambrone

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Notable quotes:
"... How could it not? Comcast owns NBC. ..."
"... MSNBC is also that bastion of journalistic integrity that hired an exposed CIA mole, Ken Dilanian, to feed its viewers propaganda about "national security ..."
"... Now, the parties truly "meddling in America's democracy" should be very clear, although I can only scratch the surface here concerning the long history of media corruption and outright lies broadcast all the time. ..."
"... The criminal behaviour continues unabated. Lies and fraud abound. American behaviour worldwide is an embarrassment to any free thinking individual. They are a danger to all of us. ..."
"... Organisations like the BBC and all the rest of the corporate media are a greater threat to democracy than any foreign army or terrorist organisation. ..."
"... As Trump might say, 'Fake News!' ..."
May 15, 2019 | off-guardian.org

CNN rigged a poll to censor out nearly everyone under 45 years of age. Based on this nonsensical false sampling they claim Biden is now in the lead.

MSNBC was caught making up false numbers to report, increasing Biden from an actual 25% approval to a magical 28%, just enough to edge out Bernie Sanders. But this is a fraud, deliberate journalistic malfeasance at the highest levels. How could such a thing happen?

How could it not? Comcast owns NBC.

Comcast executive to host Joe Biden fundraiser"
CBS News 24/04/19

MSNBC is also that bastion of journalistic integrity that hired an exposed CIA mole, Ken Dilanian, to feed its viewers propaganda about "national security."

MSNBC also made hysterical, highly dangerous, and false claims about the Russians' ability and intention to shut down America's electrical grid, a completely false story that was retracted as soon as it went out by the Washington Post. This kind of unhinged war propaganda could lead the world straight to Armageddon.

Now, the parties truly "meddling in America's democracy" should be very clear, although I can only scratch the surface here concerning the long history of media corruption and outright lies broadcast all the time.

Grafter

The criminal behaviour continues unabated. Lies and fraud abound. American behaviour worldwide is an embarrassment to any free thinking individual. They are a danger to all of us. We can start by removing them from Europe along with their so called "allies". Here in the disunited UK T.May and her little gang of Tory millionaires should be top priority for political oblivion. People worldwide urgently need to wake up to the sick joke that goes under the name of "American democracy".

mark

Organisations like the BBC and all the rest of the corporate media are a greater threat to democracy than any foreign army or terrorist organisation.

They need to be constantly exposed for what they are rather than actually suppressed or controlled. They can be safely left to wither on the vine and decline into irrelevance. Social media and sites like this are a powerful antidote.

Seamus Padraig

As Trump might say, 'Fake News!'

[Apr 26, 2019] Biden Campaign Brings In $6.3 Million During First 24 Hours

That's the advantage of being establishment candidate. Money flow to you automatically. It is a part of being bought.
Apr 26, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com
launching his campaign on Thursday , even pulling in $700,000 during a Philadelphia fundraiser hosted by a Comcast executive.

Befitting of his status as a former VP and the leader in most national polls, Biden managed to beat out Bernie Sander's day-one haul of $5.9 million, despite the still-simmering controversy over 'gropegate' and the backlash over his treatment of Anita Hill, a young black female lawyer who accused Supreme Court nominee (now Justice) Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment. Hill rejected a personal apology from Biden earlier this week, even as Biden clarified during an interview on ABC's "the View" that he wasn't apologizing for his personal behavior, but rather for the treatment she was subjected to during a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which he led at the time.

Biden's day-one haul also beat out the $6.1 million raised by Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke during his first day, though recent polls show that enthusiasm for O'Rourke among Democrats has waned as South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg has benefited from a media blitz of fawning coverage.


Creative_Destruct , 45 minutes ago link

After all the manipulated outrage, the electoral choices will most likely still be between about whom it can essentially be said "meet the old boss, same as the old boss." Underneath the thin layers of standard rhetorical ******** the same strings connect the puppets to the puppet masters.

tonye , 23 minutes ago link

Yeah, Biden is an "old school" Democrat alright.

Complete Uniparty.

Just ask him about Ukraine.

Taras Bulba , 3 hours ago link

In case anyone is wondering what kind of thug Kolomoisky (Hunter biden's sponsor at burisma), here is a run down of the murder of Russians in Odessa on 2 May 2014 and kolomosky's close involvement.

https://washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/key-man-behind-may-2nd-odessa-ukraine-trade-unions-building-massacre-many-connections-white-house.html

Anunnaki , 4 hours ago link

Biden-Weinstein 2020. #MeToo wing of the Democrap Party

Anunnaki , 4 hours ago link

All he offers is TDS and lazy platitudes. He thinks people love his “Everyman” shtick. He is a legend in his own mind

CatInTheHat , 4 hours ago link

BIDEN is a corrupt douche bag.

If Biden is Democrats anointed one They will get a repeat of 2016 in 2020.

Biden has ZERO charisma and comes across as a complete phony

dustinwind , 4 hours ago link

What I read was "Biden is a typical American politician." All the career politicians depend on big checks from the rich and corporate elites who greatly appreciate their services rendered. America is pay to play. It has been for a long time.

CatInTheHat , 4 hours ago link

Biden is Hillary Clinton in male form.

If he runs an anti Trump campaign, which he is likely to do, because he has ZERO to offer Americans, he will LOSE.

John Hansen , 4 hours ago link

No big deal, this is America, we are used to phonies, and false promises, just look at our border and demographic decline.

[Apr 25, 2019] Historical info on stolen votes in the USA: Johnson victory in Texas senator race was due to election fraud

Apr 25, 2019 | irrussianality.wordpress.com

. The New York Times reports how 40 years later Robert Caro tracked down Luis Salas, 'the election judge who, under oath, had certified 200 disputed votes for Johnson in the notorious Ballot Box 13.' As the Times says :

He [Caro] knocked on the door of a mobile home near Houston, and the frail old man of 84 who answered was only too pleased to fish out from a trunk a 94-page history titled "Box 13," which described how he had switched votes from Stevenson to Johnson. He was proud of deceiving everyone. "We put L. B. Johnson as senator for Texas, and this position opened the road to reach the presidency."

Never again would Caro have to equivocate, "No one will ever be sure if Lyndon Johnson stole it." Now, in [his book] "Working," he writes yet another definitive sentence: He stole it.

Electoral corruption takes rather different forms nowadays. Corporate lobbying, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the like are far more common than ballot stuffing LBJ-style. But regardless of the form these abuses take, the idea that we have some type of pristine process which is pure and 'democratic' until defiled by 'foreign meddling' is rather naïve. That doesn't mean, of course, that we shouldn't be doing all we can to make matters better, or that we shouldn't be wary of things which might make them worse. But in doing the latter, we need to keep a sense of proportion and not to over-idealize existing systems or over-exaggerate the scale of the dangers.

The likes of Timothy Snyder would have us believe that democracy is on the verge of collapsing into tyranny. In reality, the choices are between various forms of democratic imperfection. Some are better than others, but all are inevitably flawed. A little bit more imperfection here and there isn't the end of the world.

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[Feb 04, 2019] Progressive tax is not about taxing wealth. It's about taxing power, privilege and greed. This isn't about punishing oligarchy. This is about saving democracy

That's why it will never be adopted in the USA
Notable quotes:
"... This isn't about taxing wealth. It's about taxing power, privilege and greed. This isn't about punishing oligarchy. This is about saving democracy. ..."
"... The concentration of wealth parallels the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere: it is economic climate change with consequences equally as dire as global warming on all lifeforms. The challenge will be no less difficult, replete with a powerful lobby of deniers and greed-mongers ready for war against all threats to their power and position. Their battle cry is apres moi, le deluge -- as if taxing wealth and privilege is barbarians at the gate and the demise of civilization rather than curbing cannibals driven not by hunger but voracious greed. ..."
"... Likewise, the same majority now sees the rising tide of inequality and social dysfunction and what that means for the future as a global caste system condemns nearly all of us -- but mainly our progeny -- to slavery in servitude to our one percent masters. ..."
Feb 04, 2019 | www.nytimes.com

Yuri Asian Bay Area Area

This isn't about taxing wealth. It's about taxing power, privilege and greed. This isn't about punishing oligarchy. This is about saving democracy.

The concentration of wealth parallels the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere: it is economic climate change with consequences equally as dire as global warming on all lifeforms. The challenge will be no less difficult, replete with a powerful lobby of deniers and greed-mongers ready for war against all threats to their power and position. Their battle cry is apres moi, le deluge -- as if taxing wealth and privilege is barbarians at the gate and the demise of civilization rather than curbing cannibals driven not by hunger but voracious greed.

Everywhere climate change deniers are being drowned out by a rational majority who now see the signs of global warming in every weather report and understand what this means for their children if we continue to emulate ostriches.

Likewise, the same majority now sees the rising tide of inequality and social dysfunction and what that means for the future as a global caste system condemns nearly all of us -- but mainly our progeny -- to slavery in servitude to our one percent masters.

Elizabeth Warren is no nerd. She's our Joan of Arc. And it's up to us to make sure she isn't burned alive by the dark lords as she rallies us to win back our country and our future.

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[Feb 04, 2019] Opinion Elizabeth Warren Does Teddy Roosevelt - The New York Times

Feb 04, 2019 | www.nytimes.com

Debra Petersen Clinton, Iowa Jan. 28

"The net worth of the wealthiest 0.1 percent of Americans is almost equal to that of the bottom 90 percent combined." This describes a truly radical concentration of wealth that should raise red flags for anyone who genuinely cares about the future of this country. How long can such a situation last...or grow even worse...without resulting in social upheaval on a massive scale, such as happened in France in the late 1700's or Russia in the early 1900s? And exactly what do those 0.1 percent want so much wealth for anyway? While some people of great wealth do try to use it to make the world a better place, far too manty of them seem not to know what to do with it, except to let it pile up to gloat over or use it to influence politicians to create policies that will give them even more. Proposals for higher taxes on the very wealthy are derided as too radical. But the economic chasm that exists in this country between the very wealthiest and everyone else represents a radical challenge that must be addressed.

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carlyle 145 Florida Jan. 28

All you smarties ignored us when your Globalism took away all our jobs. Prez Clinton aimed for middle with his love of approval. Our situation became worse so in desperation we believed the Huckster Trump and called him our "NEW DEAL" Trump has failed us and there is a chance for Dem government in two years. A cautious, donor friendly, middle of the road Democratic administration just like the last one will send us on the hunt again for a leader to save us from peonage.

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EJ NJ Jan. 29

@Charlie As enticing as is your suggestion, let's not lower ourselves that far down to Tweety's "standards of behavior". Pinocchio redeemed himself in the end; Tweety never will, and many hope he ends up sharing a cell with Bernie Madoff.

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DS Georgia Jan. 28

Thank you for this review of reactions from the experts -- and for the list of experts who focus on this topic. And thank you for sharing your views. The challenge with Warren's proposal isn't devising a good policy. The challenge will be explaining it to voters who don't understand economics or Piketty's book. It's a voter-education problem more than an economics problem. I wish Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez well in their efforts to explain their proposals. It seems a tall order, but it's just the kind of medicine we need.

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stan continople brooklyn Jan. 28

Thanks to Trump we, as a nation, got to see that even Federal workers can barely get by. This was quite a revelation for many. There has long been a stigma in this country about sharing the truly dismal state of one's economic affairs. It's why we've made so little progress along the lines discussed here. It's also the reason once-middle class people place themselves in a debt spiral, to compete with others who, unbeknownst to them, are doing likewise. There will be much more discussion now of just how unequal and insecure this society is. The powers that be have tried to muffle the conversation for long enough. And kudos to Wilbur Ross for opening his fat mouth and provoking everyone's ire!

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Flora Maine Jan. 29

@dajoebabe Another sign that ours is "a system that is the only one in the world where such vast sums can be accumulated with so little being required in return" is the way foreign capital is swamping our property markets because people from un-free countries are trying to buy access to the rule of law. There aren't that many places in the world for the rich to flee where public infrastructure and the rights of citizenship are quite as robust as here in the US.

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OgataOkiOwl Okinawa, Japan Jan. 28

@Ana Luisa Amen!! Very well said. I hope you're correct in projecting that the U.S. "will finally become an entirely civilized country too." I fear that the 'Kochtopus' will strangle the initiatives proposed by Warren and other progressives before they can be enacted. But I won't roll over and give up. Dr. Krugman's columns and the comments from others such as yourself inspire me to continue to push back against the Repubs and support candidates such as Sen. Warren. Bravo Zulu to you and all the other NYT readers who speak up to state that the United States can strive to be the shining example of equality and fairness that does truly function to promote governance that works for the common good of ALL U.S. citizens.

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CPMariner Florida Jan. 28

Dr. Krugman uses the argument of "marginal utility value" as the crux of one of his statements. Marginal utility, briefly described, is the value one might put on he first milkshake he's had in years. Probably very high. But what about the 10th milkshake in the same day? ("Yuck" would do nicely.) So it is with "the second $50 million", as Dr. Krugman argues. Quite right. After a given point - depending on the individual - wealth ceases to play an important part in one's life. Would a billionaire miss a million?... one thousandth of his net worth? Hardly. But when arguing such a point, beware the Slippery Slope argument (a classic fallacy). "Yeah, maybe just a million today; but tomorrow? Maybe TEN million!!

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Blue Moon Old Pueblo Jan. 28

"Taxing the superrich is an idea whose time has come -- again." Let's hope Democrats have their ducks in a row with this legislation when they regain the presidency and full control of Congress in 2020. And if we want to get even more radical with the "swollen" wealthy, we could rescind their recent trillion-dollar tax cut. Perhaps that will start acclimating them to what needs to be our new normal. We should consider cuts to our bloated defense budget as well. We can use all of this money to shore up Social Security and Medicare, in addition to Medicaid, and to promote more affordable public education, infrastructure to fight climate change, and universal health care. This additional revenue is not just something we should see as a windfall for society. In the end, it may prove to be what saves what's left of our society.

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Maryellen Simcoe Baltimore Jan. 28

@Registered Repub. Again, Warren is not a socialist. You may not know what a socialist is.

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thewriterstuff Planet Earth Jan. 28

@Mike Rowe The only people that this would effect are the people who can't afford lawyers and accountants. I have been audited twice. Both times it turned out the government owed me money, but the money I was owed, was eaten up because I had to pay and accountant to defend me. Trump still has not put forward his tax documents, do you really think that adding a few more IRS agents would change that.

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Tom New Jersey Jan. 28

@Orthoducks Let's be honest: every society that has taken away the wealth of individuals and handed it to the government to allocate has been ruled by tyrants and has reduced their citizenry to penury at the point of a gun. Wealthy people reinvest their money in economic ventures that grow their wealth, which generates greater productivity while creating jobs and wealth for the society. If there is too much concentration of wealth (there is), let's tax it back down, but don't ever suggest that we should just take all the money from individuals because we can. That's the route Lenin and Mao went down; I thought we had learned that lesson.

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John Hartford Jan. 29

Whether you agree with Warren's proposal or not it's a good thing that this issue is being put out in the public domain because we've now reached the stage where income and wealth inequality is eroding the effectiveness of the open and dynamic capitalist economy that we all need. Some of the more perceptive of the super rich like Warren Buffett and Michael Bloomberg have recognized this and the dangers it threatens. It was a problem recognized in the 30's by J. M. Keynes speaking in America when he said "If the new problem of inequality is not solved the existing order of society will become so discredited that wild, foolish and destructive changes will become inevitable." It's worth remembering that Maduro and Chavez before him were the products of the vast inequalities in Venezuelan society. And there are plenty of other examples of a similar dynamic at work.

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nora m New England Jan. 29

The people who don't like a wealth tax are a) very wealthy, or b) corrupt politicians, or c) pundits who like to sound like they know everything. Yes, tax the wealthy. Even Willie Sutton could tell you that if you want money (tax revenue) go where it is. The time is right. They can choose: higher taxes or the guillotine.

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RMS Jan. 28

@Shiv Taxes were at this rate in the 50's and inequality was nowhere as bad as it is now. Undertaxing Bezos and his ilk (and the way our tax system is now set up, generally), directs money to the CEOs and other muckety mucks, not to their employees. Republicans seem to think that there's a "natural" (as in, arising out of nature) situation where money goes to the person who has "earned" it. That's simply not true. The economy is a construct, created by law and custom. And right now, the law makes sure that Bezos gets a whole lot more than he should be getting, while his hapless employees (the folks who do the actual work) get way less than they should.

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PATRICK G.O.P. is the Party of "Red" Jan. 28

I have admired Warren since she entered the political spectator sport. She has a lot of guts for a woman. I gathered from your essay that only 75,000 or so Americans hold as much wealth as the lower 90 percent of the entire population of 320,000,000 Americans. Decades have passed since Eisenhower rightly paid down the debt of the great war. In that time, fairly dispersed wealth trickled up to a few who employed "Trickle Down" propaganda and political manipulation, all too often agreed to, to reduce their tax burden thereby heaping all responsibilities of maintaining the nation on everyone but the rich. "Trickle Down Economics" was always a lie we all saw through. Party politics, bought and paid for, happily accepted wealthy dollars in exchange for legislation outlined by the wealthys' lobbyists. The reality has always been "Trickle Up" and "Trickle Out" economics as American wealth is grossly concentrated at the top. I like the taxation plan as presented. It still leaves the filthy rich, well, filthy rich. It started as our money they now have amassed. Decades of lies and corruption justify any new taxes on the wealthy who need to be convinced their absent patriotism should be reestablished by law. If the wealthy are going to "Crowd Source" America, let's make them "Crowd Pleasers". It's a great way to keep the peace. We do want peace, don't we?

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RMS Jan. 29

@DJS Ummm, wealthy people, no matter how well meaning or even well-acting (and there are many who are neither), do not (or should not) be in charge of infrastructure, public health, national defense, public education and so on. As far as "helping needy people, who never see it," I wonder what you are thinking. I assure you that the recipients of food stamps, unemployment, social security, medicare and medicaid benefits certainly "see" it. As do the rest of us when we have clean air and water (currently under attack by Republicans), safe air flight (ditto), and well-maintained roads (also ditto).

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Ana Luisa Belgium Jan. 28

@Registered Repub (Reply to your reply to FunkyIrishman) Could you please explain how American workers can be simultaneously 30-40% more productive than Scandinavian workers, and all American "socialists" (which for you seems to be a synonym with Democrats, and as a consequence refers to the majority of the American people) "lazy" ... ? And of course America hasn't a 40% higher productivity rate than Scandinavian countries. In 2015, the US ranked merely fifth on the OECD's productivity list - after Luxemburg, Ireland, Norway and Belgium. A US workers adds $68 per hour to the GDP, a Danish worker half a dollar less, and a Swedish worker $9 dollars less. And maybe Americans "own more cars and live in bigger houses", but Norwegians are FAR happier, as all studies show. Producing tons of money as a country's highest ideal is clearly not the best way to have a happy, healthy and well-educated population and economy that works for all citizens. And funny enough, in the US it's precisely the party that loves to call itself "the party of values" that indeed systematically sees money as its main value ... http://time.com/4621185/worker-productivity-countries /

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Yuri Asian Bay Area Jan. 29

@Paul Rogers Agree except for abolishing propaganda, which offends the First Amendment. Better to help others recognize political manipulation and reject irrational or emotional appeals. Thanks for your reply.

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Ockham9 Norman, OK Jan. 29

It doesn't matter whether large majorities of Americans or economists or tax experts support a wealth tax or higher marginal rates. The only poll that matters limits itself to 535 people, the members of the House and Senate. And the net worth of those 535 people is on average 5 times larger than that of the rest of America. Fourteen have net worths larger than the $50 million of the proposal. Will they vote to tax themselves more? Though the number may be small, in a contentious matter and a highly partisan and divided body, every vote matters.

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Manish Seattle Jan. 29

Let's start simple: close the carried interest loophole. For all the talk of Obama being about the working class, he didn't get this done. Hedge fund guys had his administration and Dems lobbied up to prevent closing this. So it's not just the Republicans supporting the oligarchy. Democrats are guilty too.

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SamwiseTheDrunk Chicago Suburbs Jan. 28

Us Americans need to stop seeing ourselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires, that's the problem. I don't care how we do it, either by raising rates, closing loopholes, or both, but the 1%, the 0.1%, and the 0.01% need to take home less money. They don't "work harder" than the rest of us, that's complete garbage. Maybe we pass a tiered law stipulating an allowed pay ratio between the CEO and lowest level employee, based on either company size as the number of people, or revenue, or some other formula. Or maybe we say you get a lower tax rate if you meet that ratio, and higher taxes if you don't. I'm glad people are moving the overton window though.

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Buddy Badinski 28422 Jan. 29

@JW Maybe she should. Bernie does and it clearly demonstrates his conviction to the wealth inequality situation.

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Len Charlap Princeton NJ Jan. 28

"Denmark and Sweden, both of which USED to have significant wealth taxes" Why don't they have them today?

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mrpoizun hot springs Jan. 28

@Taz Obama was also a moderate Republican. This time, we need a liberal. Who was the last president to be nearly universally popular? (Except with the mega-rich) FDR. And remember what he said about his wealthy enemies? "I welcome their hatred!"

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Phil Las Vegas Jan. 28

Existing US infrastructure is so degraded, the ASCE (American Society of Civil Engineers) estimates it will cost $2 trillion just to bring it back up to code. President Trump cut taxes on the 1%, which will cost about that much in increased debt over ten years. Candidate Trump floated the idea that this imminent infrastructure cost should be born by the 'little people' via toll booths, as they schlep themselves to work and back each day just trying to make their rent money. Americans need to realize something about our government: it costs money, and that money is not in question. Someone is going to pay that bill: 'nothing is certain but death and taxes'. As the infrastructure debate illustrates, we can either make the wealthy pay that cost, or they will make us pay it. But somebody is going to pay it, of that you can be sure. (Just a suggestion: that $2 trillion is just for delayed maintenance on existing infrastructure. But that infrastructure was originally constructed, i.e. out of nothing, back at a time when the maximum marginal income tax was over 90%).

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Kelly McKee Reno, NV Jan. 28

Benjamin Franklin founded the first communally funded public hospital and library, and Jefferson the the first communally funded public school. Both also touted the benefits of capitalism, including Franklin in his autobiography, stressing self discipline and creativity in business; and Jefferson famously said, paraphrasing here, that he 'admired industry and abhorred slavery' while they touted science and technologies' advances and natural law. Therefore, they believed in and instantiated a mixed economics plan for the future of the nation, with both capitalist and socialist dimensions. This was over the objections and boos of men of lesser ideals, at the time. But the founders became Founders, and the other men of lesser ideals did not. Therefore, it is the ideals of the founders that should live on in our country, not other ideals. We can all take a simple pride in the American Exceptionalism that led Ben Franklin to maneuver against powerful loyalist-capitalists in the 1750's in Pennsylvania colony, and found the first hospital in Philadelphia above their private disbelief that it would ever work; the hospital would unquestioningly take in any and all from off of the streets who needed assistance. The combined ideal vision of America's founding fathers broke the mold of two-tiered monarchy capitalism, and established mixed capitalism on the new plateau of democracy. There's no need to apologize, if we aim to fulfill this vision in a now more pluralist America.

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Bruce Wheeler` San Diego Jan. 28

Simply: the USA has perhaps the largest set of overpaid, underperforming rich people the world has ever seen. Yes, there are always rich people ... but ... at some point they realize the only significant remaining goal is to make humankind ... well, more human. Teddy R and Franklin R "got it", even Dwight. But certainly not Saint Ronald. Without implementation of the Warren or other plans, we will let the rich destroy the fundamentals of society which allowed them to become rich. Rich includes: law and order, free speech, little corruption among police, ... children who will grow up and support the rich in their dotage.

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White Buffalo SE PA Jan. 29

@Vink FDR, who was infinitely more canny and wise than Trump, understood this in no uncertain terms.

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just visiting USA Jan. 29

To me the current trend in concentration of income at the top looks like inflation. In places like San Francisco you have to earn 7 digit incomes to be able to afford housing. In response housing gets more expensive, and Google will have to increase your salary to make your ends meet. So now houses will get more expensive... Of course, if you are a school teacher, or a baker or a cashier at the supermarket, your goose is cooked. If a hedge fund manager can afford to pay $200+ million for a penthouse where you used to live, you are going to be homeless

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Lawrence Zajac Williamsburg Jan. 29

The real justice of such a plan is that money could be made to move throughout the system stimulating the economy and shared prosperity. What should be obvious to all and hopefully will before the next election cycle is that the Dems are imaginatively searching for solutions and coming up with great ideas.

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Betaneptune Somerset, NJ Jan. 28

@Baldwin - How about property tax? Tax on your same home over an over again, with the home itself paid for with money that was already taxed. T'would be no worse than that.

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J. Cornelio Washington, Conn. Jan. 29

We have no hesitation in shaming those who get a dopamine rush from alcohol or from drugs or from sex or (occasionally) from an obscene accumulation of power. But as the saying goes, you can never be too rich or too thin. Well, that's a cultural meme not a Platonic truth, one probably dating back to at least Freud (if not Augustine) who preferred we "sublimate" our sexual lust for money/power lust because the latter is, at least theoretically, more "productive" for society. Except when it isn't. And when dopamine (a/k/a/ greed) driven plutocrats use their wealth to corrupt the system so that they can continue to accumulate more wealth and power, it isn't. Neuter them.

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JohnH Rural Iowa Jan. 29

It's time we ask ourselves this: What happens if we do nothing versus if we do something? If we do nothing, we continue with a small group of family dynasties that owns everything, whose primary commitment is only to amassing more wealth. We have a precedent for this in the robber barons of the late 1800's. The outcome? They drove the U.S. economy off the cliff in the 1920's. (Yes, simplified, but not much.) What happens if we do what Warren proposes -- or something similar? More tax money to solve problems, and we need the money. We just gave these people around $1.5 trillion in tax breaks, and the data clearly show they will not trickle down on us. And we're not remotely addressing climate change or crumbling infrastructure -- situations that will strain our social and economic capacity for perhaps a century. But just as important, it would cap the capacity of 75,000 people to make all the de facto decisions for our society. Democracy would be reinvigorated. Throw in the destruction of Citizens United, and it would usher in a new era in America. Of course, it is guaranteed that the ultra-rich, their super-rich pals, and the politicians they buy through Citizens United will fight this tooth and nail. For them it would be: to the barricades! Just like corporations, their loyalty is to themselves and their wealth, not to their country.

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Miguel Valadez UK Jan. 29

Wealth Redistribution is only one of the four legs of the stool of an inclusive society. Prof Krugman, AOC and Democrats would do well to expand the narrative to address right wing concerns: 1. Effective government spending on public services that improve welfare and national wealth and risk taking and knowledge generation (eg NASA) that the private sector just wont do - root out inefficiencies in the system, ensure incentives for productivity are maximized and keep operations lean and accountable to society. 2. Campaign finance reform: mandate air time for election coverage as a public good and give parties public funds and budget ceilings to ensure a level playing field. Also ensure redistricting makes all races competitive scross party lines as the preeminent rule. Eliminate the electoral college and moderately shift senate power to more populous states. 3. Equalise access to educational opportunities by removing the link between geography and housing and education quality and massively supporting early education programmes across the board. Improve educational outcomes to ensure the majority of society is capable of critical thinking. 4. Redistribute wealth and limit the power of elites to tilt the system in their favour: both in government policy and in how the judicial system operates (no more a la carte legal representation quality based on ability to pay).

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John Hartford Jan. 29

@Michael Who says it will be changed? You? Progressive taxation is not seizing assets. Without it a modern state cannot function. And the AMT came into existence because of the efforts of people like Donald Trump to evade taxation.

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Paul Wortman Providence Jan. 28

Income inequality along with climate change are the two BIG issues that need to be addressed. The rollback in the progressive income tax that began with Ronald Reagan needs to be reversed. The proposals by Sen. Warren, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Steven Rattner in today's Times need to be debated and carefully evaluated. But, there are related issues that are relevant to this debate concerning how to cope with automation and artificial intelligence that will dramatic effect the labor market for those still struggling for decent paying jobs. Democrats must not lose sight of their base--blue-collar, lower- and middle-class voters still struggling with wage stagnation and the loss of manufacturing jobs. That's where Hillary Clinton lost the last election, and while Democrats may feel good about taxing the rich, they must not forget the 99 plus percent who are still in need of help.

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heysus Mount Vernon Jan. 28

I feel this is exactly what this country needs. The rich have become richer and seem to demand more and more. Time to stop this incredible greed and put some of those dollars back to work in the country. Hopefully all of the Dems will agree with this.

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Karl Hoaglund Milwaukee, WI Jan. 29

Excellent article and kudos to Elizabeth Warren. On top of her and AOC's proposals I would add a 100% inheritance tax on estates over $1M. This isn't my idea but that of my favorite law school professor: the taxee doesn't care because s/he's dead; any money passed on to children is a complete windfall to them. Let's end the aristocracy.

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New Haven CT New Haven Jan. 29

The time has got to be ripe for these kinds of proposals. The primary source of unhappiness in the working class throughout the western world is the feeling of being left behind and not having their problems addressed. In the US we need to fix our crumbling infrastructure, provide a livable minimum wage and universal health care. These goals can easily be achieve by addressing the outrageous accumulation of wealth by the top 1%. Implement Warren's plan, AOC's 70% tax, tax capital gains the same as income, and add a 1% fee on all stock trades. The money the rich are hoarding needs to be invested in the betterment of society. That would truly make America great again.

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Schrodinger Northern California Jan. 28

@Alice...Inflation has been low and stable for 20 years and quantitative easing has had no effect on it, despite the forecasts of most right-wing economists. If you knew anything about macroeconomics you would be aware that in the past some governments have had serious struggles with the control of inflation.

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Ana Luisa Belgium Jan. 28

It's a sad, very sad day, when in order to have a very brief but concrete idea about what Warren just proposed, you have to read an op-ed, not a NYT article, as that article just skips the very content of her speech and instead focuses on what most MSM constantly focus on: a politician as an individual wanting a career in DC, and whether this or that will advance or hurt that career (supposedly based not on policy but "likability"). MSM, I really hope that this time you will do your job! That Trump and the lying GOP won the 2016 elections is as much due to Fox News constant barrage of fake news as to MSM's tendency to systematically silence the most relevant facts (most of the time not in order to distort the truth, as Trump falsely claims, but simply because of their "small" concept of political journalism, which often seems closer to a sports match report than to a way to build a truly informed and engaged democratic civil society, even though that's precisely the crucial job of the fourth branch of government, in a democracy).

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Bill Belle Harbour, New York Jan. 29

@Linda Helping the poor seems to be your prescription for salvation. But what hope is there for those who don't help the poor when they actually made and continue to make people poor?

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EAK Cary NC Jan. 29

It's the T word that hangs people up. On any given day, the paper wealth of billionaires can gain or lose one or two percent based on the fluctuations of the stock market. They happily play the numbers to stabilize -- and hopefully improve -- their portfolios, but they manage to take the lumps without having to alter their lavish lifestyles. They're fixated on control, which they believe is stolen from them by big government. But in the long run, they really don't feel the pain on a personal level. Let 'em be taxed.

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rtj Massachusetts Jan. 28

@Tom Maguire "If Ms. Warren is this generation's Teddy, what companies does Prof. Krugman see her breaking up?" Insurance, Drugstores, Cable/ISPs, Tech, Big Box stores for starters. https://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/2016-6-29_Warren_Antitrust_Speech.pdf

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Doc Who Gallifrey Jan. 29

Bully for Elizabeth Warren! Take the time to read or skim the engaging books she has written about the economic plight of the American family---available on Amazon, and in your local library.

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Simon Lyon Jan. 29

If her bid for the nomination fails the winning candidate should commit to her being their Treasury secretary. She knows how to reform and tame finance.

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Paul Wortman Providence Jan. 28

@Ana Luisa Hillary totally ignored the blue-collar voters in the Midwest "blue wall" states and did not advocate for stronger unions. In fact, she never agreed with the progressive proposal for a $15/hr. minimum wage. She was a centrist, establishment, Wall Street candidate who picked a center-right running mate rather than uniting the party by picking a progressive like Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio. The election NEVER should have been close, but Clinton was out-of-touch with the working class and most Sanders progressives--and it cost her.

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Hugh Massengill Eugene Oregon Jan. 29

Well, the first Democrat who takes after FDR sure has my vote. Hugh

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Ana Luisa Belgium Jan. 28

@carlyle 145 This has nothing to do with globalism, and everything with the fact that for too long, many people didn't vote, allowing the GOP to fire up their base with fake news and as such force Democrats in DC to move more and more to the right, each time they had to compromise with the GOP because "we the people" didn't give them the votes to control DC. And in a democracy, ALL real, radical, lasting, democratic progress is step by step progress. So as long as progressives don't see that Democrats' are their natural allies and simply wait until someone comes along who claims to be able to single-handedly change everything overnight, it's the lying GOP and their Big Money corruption that will continue to destroy the country. Conclusion: stop "hunting for a leader to save us", in a democracy only "we the people" can save us. So instead of standing at the sidelines yelling "not enough!" to those fighting in the mud each time they managed to get us one step closer to the finish line, start focusing on that finish line too, then roll up your sleeves and come standing in the mud too, and then the next step forward will be taken much faster

[Nov 07, 2018] America's Vote of No Confidence in Trump by Daniel Larison

Highly recommended!
The typical scheme of politic life in US under neoliberalism is as following:: candidate for President promises something reasonable, like to end foreign wars and improve the sliding standard of living of the middle class and/or cut outsourcing and offshoring. Gullible voters elect him. He governs as worst of his predecessors and start cutting benefits for the middle class and workers. . In two years voters start realizing that they were deceived and elect House or Senate or both from another party, not realizing that the difference is minimal, if exists at all.
This cycle of election fraud can continue indefinitely.
Notable quotes:
"... "and with those gains voters have delivered a sharp rebuke to the president and his party." ..."
"... The problem with health care in America is not the cost of insurance, it's the cost of health care services. Moving the "who pays" food around the plate accomplishes nothing. A "Medicare for All" plan under the existing fee for service model will only increase the pathological per capita health care cost in the U.S. ..."
"... Forget what Trump said as a candidate. Every winning candidate since arguably 1988 ("kinder, gentler America") has run as a non-interventionist and promised to restore jobs, then immediately morphed into John McCain the moment they took the Oath of Office. Instead, watch what Trump has done since getting elected. From that perspective, it is obvious that there is no such thing as "Trumpism", only a meaner, more dysfunctional, more reckless version of Dubya. ..."
Nov 07, 2018 | www.theamericanconservative.com
won control of the House again, ending an eight-year stint in the minority:

The US Democrats have taken control of the House of Representatives in the mid-term elections, dealing a serious blow to President Donald Trump.

While the GOP is poised to add to its Senate majority, yesterday's election was the best midterm result for the Democrats since 2006. They flipped dozens of Republican-held seats, including some that they were not expected to win (e.g., IL-06, OK-05), and with those gains voters have delivered a sharp rebuke to the president and his party. It is normal for the president's party to lose seats in the first midterm following a presidential election, and Democratic gains were in line with pre-election predictions. The striking thing about this year's result is that the president's party has lost so much ground despite relatively good economic conditions. Republicans had an extremely favorable Senate map, and despite that they barely managed to eke out a win in Texas of all places. It was not as thorough of a repudiation as the GOP deserved, but it was a significant rejection all the same.

The president's poor approval ratings and his unimpressive record to date have further dragged down a Republican Party that wasn't very popular to begin with. Americans seem to lose patience with unified government fairly quickly. Yesterday voters gave the Democratic Party an opportunity to put the president in check and hold him accountable for his overreaching and illegal wars. Trump and his officials should expect to face much more rigorous oversight and scrutiny from relevant Congressional committees, and Trump's haphazard and incompetent conduct of foreign policy should run into much stronger resistance from the Foreign Affairs and Armed Services Committees. Trump won't be able to count on the leadership in the House to roll over for him over the next two years, and he and his Cabinet members are likely to be facing one investigation after another.

Losing control of one house of Congress under current circumstances is a huge vote of no confidence in Trump and the GOP, and it could not have come a moment too soon.



Two More Years November 7, 2018 at 9:15 am

I voted for him in 2016, but I lost confidence in him as he started doing favors for Wall Street, Israel, and Saudi Arabia instead of doing the job we hired him for, the job he promised to do during the campaign: deport the illegals, stop immigration and foreign work visas, get us out of the Middle East, rebuild US infrastructure, i.e. "America First".

Yesterday I voted against the only national GOP politician I could get my hands on. He lost, and I'm glad, especially because he was a Tea Party Republican who betrayed our Tea Party principles by voting for Trump's out of control deficit spending and for more stupid Mideast wars.

We've got a lady Democrat now, but she looks fairly sane. We'll see. The problem with Democrat politicians is that a lot of them only pretend to be normal until they get to Washington.

bkh , , November 7, 2018 at 9:23 am
I am no Trump fan, but what is going to change? It will still be a do nothing Congress. The wars will still go on and the health-care dilemma will still be ever-present. It is sad that the past 2 years have been wasted. Even if the Republican Congress could not do something about health-care due to the size of the problem, they could have at least done something about infrastructure, immigration, and these dumb wars. The failure is just as much Paul Ryan's fault as it is Trump's. I watched last night with far more interest than 2016 and am amazed that so many old Boomers were elected given the supposed youth movement. It never occurred to me that there are alot of Septuagenarian war-mongers who should have retired a decade ago still receiving votes. The Democrats took the House, but what is left of this nation is toast regardless.
EliteCommInc. , , November 7, 2018 at 9:32 am
"Losing control of one house of Congress under current circumstances is a huge vote of no confidence in Trump and the GOP, and it could not have come a moment too soon."

How much of this was national in nature is unclear. Many of the republicans that lost were "Never Trump" advocates or very "lukewarm" at best. I think this reflects more failure on the local level to turn or translate the positives into something beneficial locally.

I am just surprised the Republicans managed to lose the house given the economic numbers (though I remain deeply distrustful of them -- given exports) and what has been repeated stumbles by democrats.

Texas, is a perfect example. While Sen Cruz was not a never Trumper, he was mild fair in the president's corner. His election was about him, not the president. And I think the vote reflected less confidence in his leadership. Neither Texas nor Sen Cruze are as conservative as believed or at least not as they once were considered. Unfortunately, what carried him over the top was ethnicity, not his leadership.

It's probably too early to tell, just how big a factor the president was in the election or how much change will result. Thus far, the establishment that existed previously remains despite the presidential election that was intended to reshape or at least curb its self serving appetite --

Given the the money at play -- it is doubtful that that things are going to change much. Now that I put at the admin door step. Because his folded a lot against the reasons he was elected, during the last two years.

SteveM , , November 7, 2018 at 9:33 am
Re: "and with those gains voters have delivered a sharp rebuke to the president and his party."

And with what promises did the Democrats win those votes? Why with the bogus "Medicare for All" and the equally bogus "Free College Education for All".

The problem with health care in America is not the cost of insurance, it's the cost of health care services. Moving the "who pays" food around the plate accomplishes nothing. A "Medicare for All" plan under the existing fee for service model will only increase the pathological per capita health care cost in the U.S. Too bad the MSM in love with Nitwit Newbie Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is too stupid to connect the dots.

And higher ed is unaffordable simply because it's also over priced. Using government subsidies to sustain a bankrupt higher ed model amounts to re-arranging even more deck chairs on the Titanic.

The Democrats are the Party of Free Lunch and Free War. While the Republicans are the Party of Free War and Free Lunch.

Pick one

rayray , , November 7, 2018 at 10:44 am
@SteveM
The fact is that any "solution" to health care that has any integrity to it is a single payer solution. That's also probably the only solution that reduces, as you accurately state, the pathological per capita health care cost.

And to be clear, in terms of fiscal viability, the party of reducing taxes and raising budgets is currently and has been historically the GOP. The current administration has picked up that baton as well.

One final thing, I wouldn't count out Ocasio-Cortes as a nitwit. I've been reading her white papers and following her evolution and she makes 95% of the current GOP crop seem like toddlers. Yes, her idealism will backfire hard as it always does. But what's the other option? Endless corrupt cynicism? She's impressive. I'm pulling for her to stay focused and do well.

Sid Finster , , November 7, 2018 at 10:46 am
Forget what Trump said as a candidate. Every winning candidate since arguably 1988 ("kinder, gentler America") has run as a non-interventionist and promised to restore jobs, then immediately morphed into John McCain the moment they took the Oath of Office. Instead, watch what Trump has done since getting elected. From that perspective, it is obvious that there is no such thing as "Trumpism", only a meaner, more dysfunctional, more reckless version of Dubya.
Oblomov , , November 7, 2018 at 11:06 am
The alternative to Ocasio-Cortez style state worship is the simple wisdom that governments are neither efficient nor effective at delivering what she proposes.

[Nov 06, 2018] The election fraud is sophisticated form of the neoliberal status quo: The 1% control the world now, and they make sure that their freedom to use their money to dominate democracy is unrestricted

It would be better to return to paper ballots to exclude the possibilities of "electronic" voting frauds.
Nov 06, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

a , Nov 6, 2018 1:33:39 AM | link

While this and the previous post on the US elections may well be right that the republicans and trump will retain their majorities, the posts omit major factors playing a determining role in these ev
While this and the previous post on the US elections may well be right that the republicans and trump will retain their majorities, the posts omit major factors playing a determining role in these events..

1. Gerrymandering.. supposedly creates about a 5% advantage to the republicans. 5% in a 2-party system is almost a landslide. even this article downplaying the role of gerrymandering includes this line,

"All that said, it's still the case that analysts estimate that Democrats will have to win the overall House vote by some 5 to 10 percentage points in order to win a House majority. "
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-07-23/gerrymandering-effects-are-probably-overrated

2. Voter-suppression. indications are that this may create and even bigger bias than gerrymandering. it includes numerous tactics, in florida the felon-dienfranchisement tactic alone suppresses 1.4 million majority black voters. it may be difficult for naive people like me to imagine the mindset of the vote-suppressors, this excellent short article by meghan tinsley, sketches the historical origins of these tactics, e.g.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/meghan-tinsley/civil-rights-and-voter-suppression-in-us
" The end of federal support for Reconstruction in 1877 ushered in the Jim Crow era, wherein southern states waged a relentless campaign of racial terror against empowered black citizens. From the outset, disenfranchising black citizens was a priority: the Black Codes enforced severe penalties for minor 'crimes', such as vagrancy, and permanently barred convicted felons from the vote. As these tactics spread, those who imposed them became increasingly brazen about their purpose: in 1884, the Alabama Supreme Court upheld felon disenfranchisement as an effective means to "preserve the purity of the ballot box".

With the entrenchment of segregation in the late nineteenth century, felon disenfranchisement, combined with poll taxes, literacy tests, and grandfather clauses, effectively disenfranchised virtually all African-Americans in Southern states...

In 1965, Congress passed the Voting Rights Act, hailed as the single most important legislative achievement of the Civil Rights Movement...
The effects were immediate and wide-reaching: whereas only seven percent of eligible African-Americans in Mississippi were registered to vote in 1964, the number had jumped to sixty-seven percent by 1969. Ostensibly colourblind policies, including laws that would require citizens to present state-issued photo identification before voting, were blocked because they would disproportionately prevent African-Americans from voting."


3. The sheer tidal force of money. The 1% control the world now, and they make sure that their freedom to use their money to dominate democracy is unrestricted cf. 'citizens united' etc. Thomas Fergusons work indicates that the number of votes follows the amount of money spent linearly... e.g.
https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/big-money-not-political-tribalism-drives-us-elections

and other work suggests US policy reflects the interests of the 1% and not that of the people at large, when they differ,
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

4. Electronic vote flipping. this has the least hard evidence, but there are anecdotes, even in this election, of voters in texas ticking straight democratic slate options but finding that the machine had entered their senate vote for ted cruz. There are also anecdotes in earlier elections of vote tallies flipping suddenly, of electronic data not being recorded or being erased before it could be checked and analysed etc. For those inclined to pooh-pooh such reports, here is a troubling article on the 2012 mexican elections,

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-how-to-hack-an-election/

[Jul 03, 2018] Secure transaction histories provided by blockchain (same technology as Bitcoin) allows for internet-based direct democracy

Notable quotes:
"... Obviously, redistribution is the main problem for neoliberal capitalists. In the 50's and 60's the west had the redistribution capitalist formula with capital controls and high taxes on the very rich which forced them to spend profits on expanding productive enterprises that produced jobs and benefits/wages that reduced corporate profits and corporate taxes, and a healthy middle class with spending power allowed their businesses to grow. ..."
Jul 03, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

Peter AU 1, dh-mtl

Secure transaction histories provided by blockchain (same technology as Bitcoin) allows for internet-based direct democracy.

Under such a system, there will still be the need for government services like police, fire, inspection, schools, etc. but many (all?) of these can be outsourced. Auditors can report on their compliance/progress. Auditors can be themselves be audited, and a "government" that is responsive to the people would also support whistle-blowers instead of f*cking them over.

Direct democracy could greatly increase efficiency of public services and make government respond to the people instead of oligarchs and industry groups.

Defense? LOL! What is popularly termed "Defense" is offensive to the intelligence of any critical thinker.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 29, 2018 9:49:10 PM | 46


Peter AU 1 , Jun 29, 2018 9:58:40 PM | 47

Jackrabbit'I don't know much about blockchain but blockchain democracy sounds good.
Defense as in a force that only defends a country's sovereign territory, not this so called defending a country's interests which is no more than a politically correct term for aggression.
Diplomacy as a first line of defense.
Pft , Jun 30, 2018 3:39:27 AM | 62
Ramn Mazaheri from a link from kalrof 1 says

"Socialism is clearly based on two fundamental precepts: empowering the long-oppressed with democratic rights, and massive state-organised economic redistribution, which is anathema in capitalism. Thus, socialism is both a structure of government and an economic policy. Therefore, Iran certainly has socialism."

This might be the clearest definition of socialism I have read.

Obviously, redistribution is the main problem for neoliberal capitalists. In the 50's and 60's the west had the redistribution capitalist formula with capital controls and high taxes on the very rich which forced them to spend profits on expanding productive enterprises that produced jobs and benefits/wages that reduced corporate profits and corporate taxes, and a healthy middle class with spending power allowed their businesses to grow.

Globalism coupled with neoliberalism ended the Golden Age and those countries who try and reproduce social justice and reject globalism and free trade are sanctioned as enemies, or even worse, attacked or subject to regime change

dh-mtl , Jun 30, 2018 8:34:19 AM | 74
Some thoughts on 'Government'

1.Human societies are complex abstract systems.
2.The system is a set of rules (thus abstract) that govern how members of the society interact with each other, in order to collectively provide the necessities of life.
3.Government is the body (i.e. group of people) accepted by the members of the society at large to tend the system (i.e. to develop it, manage it, operate it, change it as required, etc.). Without a government there is no system, and no society.
4.Societies work best when the rules are set up to maximize the aggregate benefit of all members. This is best achieved when the members of the society collectively (i.e. democratically) choose the people (i.e. government) who develop and manage the rules that govern them.
5.Large societies require large complex systems. High societal performance requires high levels of complexity.
6.To function effectively, very large, highly complex abstract systems requires that authority be distributed throughout the system, and be based on the person's role within the system.
7.The most important function of societal governance is to organize the production and distribution of the necessities of life for the society's members, i.e. the economic system.
8. For those parts of the economic system that are not natural monopolies, markets are very effective tools for economic planning and organization.
9.Markets are, by definition, a set of rules. Markets work best when the rules are set by in an unbiased fashion to provide a fair playing field for all participants.

Some thoughts on what has gone wrong in the U.S.
1.The members of the U.S. society no longer collectively choose their leaders. Because the democratic system has been corrupted by money, a very small, very wealthy elite (many of them not even American), limit the choice to those who will serve the interests of the elite. The U.S. has turned into an 'Oligarchic Dictatorship'. The turning point was the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980.
2.This 'Oligarchic Dictatorship' works for the benefit of the elites, not the aggregate benefit of the society as a whole. Thus the system (while optimized for the few) is, in aggregate, sub-optimized.
3.Dictatorships are based on centralized authority, where as complex systems require distributed authority. The U.S.' oligarchic dictatorship, unable to handle complexity, tries to simplify the entire political-economic system. The result of trying to simplify the system, in order to make it compatible with centralized authority, is a system that increasingly fails to meet the needs of the people and is unable to effectively change and adapt as required to changing circumstances.
4.Market deregulation has not changed the fact that the markets are, by definition, a set of rules. It has only changed who makes the rules, from the government to market participants themselves. And in this case, as always, the 'Golden Rule' applies - he who has the gold makes the rules. And when market participants make the rules themselves, for the benefit of themselves, markets always tend towards monopoly. The U.S. economy is no longer a 'Market Economy' but rather a system of serial monopolies.

What can be done to redress the problems?
Until the people of the U.S. reclaim their democracy – Nothing!
The U.S.' system of government is not the problem. The problem is that the system has been hi-jacked and turned from a democracy into an 'Oligarchic Dictatorship'.

Geoff , Jun 30, 2018 9:00:34 AM | 75
How much time and study have gone into the observations posted just in this one thread. Many Americans I meet just aren't able to investigate that much. I find most people in the small american town that I live in, are just intersted in exchanging banal pleasantries, which isn't too bad in its own way, but provincial perhaps at best.

And amongst all the current epoch's american instiutionally educated I feel there is a lack of some indefineable quality of "experience," which I just don't have the wisdom to grasp in its entirety, but I kind of think of it as some people, if they can't see it directly, they just aren't capable of comprehending it. If you were to try to explain it to them, in the manner of these posts, they would become irriated or bewildered, or think you were eccentric .

Unfortunately, it's this same principal used by individuals and corporations, governments, which is, if they don't tell you, it won't harm you and you won't ever know. It's here where there's a problem I think, because it's been my experience that to be kept in the dark, is far more harmful, then it is to have delusions upended, as painful as that might be.

Curtis , Jun 30, 2018 9:50:17 AM | 78
PS
The US is at 16 on the CPI Corruption Perception Index for 2017. But keep in mind perception is something that can be manipulated. I think the US should be lower and and cheer when it moves lower because it could mean more are getting the idea of the nature of the beast.
https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2017
Curtis , Jun 30, 2018 9:50:17 AM | 78 b4real , Jun 30, 2018 10:02:35 AM | 79
@55 Peter

"It is not so much a delegating of authority but having someone to mediate between views and find a solution that is acceptable to all."

Respectfully, it is absolutely a delegation of authority. When that delegation is not tightly constrained to one particular issue it will be usurped by corrupt individuals. IMO elections are good for one purpose only and that is to identify the psychopaths among us who should not ever be allowed near the reins of power.

@57 Jen

"A national government is needed to approve going to war (or using diplomacy instead of war...

Your premise is based upon what I am arguing against, the existence of an entrenched government. While I fully concede that genie will not be put back in the bottle any time soon, it is government that allows the greed and evil of a few to disrupt and complicate the lives of the many.

All individuals are ultimately responsible for their own well being and safety. To depend upon the actions of others when your life or livelihood is threatened is foolish.

It is not possible to dismiss my argument using examples that exist today under an entrenched government.

Criminals are released from prison every day and relocate to new communities (or not) and continue their crimes. Vendettas between families are commonplace everywhere today. Crips, bloods, the mexican mafia, ms13, etc are present in almost every city in the usa. Just an FYI, but I have found that beating the shit out of people who invade my space has been very effective. It also dissuades others from trying the same. I live in a rough neighborhood, and this is simply a fact of life for me.

It is the laws of the 24/7 rule makers which allows them to strengthen and prosper.

A 'new' bridge recently collapsed in Miami killing and I can guarantee you, "No one could have foreseen" and there will be no consequences for those whom profited in its construction. This under existing government.

I appreciate your response, (you are one of my favorite posters) but I believe you along with the majority are too dependent on a structure that does not ever have your best interests at heart.


@59 Ashley

"When I talk to Anarchist friends they ALWAYS go silent when I mention railways and..."

I would say to you I have no problem with people who want railways building them and maintaining them. Should I choose to ride one, I would gladly purchase a ticket. I see no contradiction or hypocrisy in such. What I would object to is people who have no intention of utilizing it, being forced to subsidize it, lose their homestead in its construction and again being forced to subsidize it when the inevitable mismanagement of said train (due to greed) causes it to become unprofitable.

Hillary 'lost' six BILLION during her stint at state.
The Pentagon cannot account for between 6.5 and 21 TRILLION dollars of taxpayer money. Americans are subject to prison should they decide the government has not been a good custodian of their funds and decline to contribute any longer. They will take everything you have acquired and everything you may acquire in the future should any "free" american take this decision and act upon it.

@69 Russ

"Thomas Paine was right in the first place when he pointed out that the vast majority of people would be better off without governments and other trappings of centralized civilization, which of course are designed to subjugate the many to concentrate wealth, power, and luxury for the few."

This.

@71 Lysias
(another of my favorite posters)

" Most state positions were occupied by citizens chosen by lot for limited terms"

This would only slow the corruption not curtail. Now if "violation of the public trust" became a capital offense with public execution becoming mandatory upon conviction a democracy might have a chance to succeed. It really is that simple. I think Thomas Jefferson may have mentioned something about that...

@all

It was not my intent to hijack this thread.

To get back on topic, it should have been apparent to any thinking individual that Obama and Congress failure to prosecute the bush/cheney regime would lead to a continuation of the war crimes they unleashed. It is called precedent, and when Obama decided to look forward rather than reinforce the rule of law, he left the door open for a recurrence of torture by American soldiers. I can assure you that the full story is not being told, in regard the torture and disappearance of people in Yemen. Especially with trump stating that he has no qualms about using such means.

In a similar instance, congress voted to retroactively legalize illegal warrantless surveillance by the telecoms in 2007. I was not surprised when Snowden revealed the extent to which this process had grown. It is the same with the torture of Yemen people. It is the corruption that is inherent in people which gravitate to these positions. Hillary not being prosecuted for running her private server, (too many people do not understand the difference between using a personal email address and running a personal server) and I am certain that there is some other (non) surprise coming in the future by another government official for doing something similar or more extreme. Comey has already been found to have been using a gmail addy for government business.

It is their nature and will be proven time and time again. Also people, these are only the things they do which become known. Can you imagine what they are doing and have done that remains secret?

b4real

PeacefulProsperity , Jun 30, 2018 11:45:16 AM | 80
All roads of evil in this world lead to the City of London, as some of the commenters have already pointed out here on many occasions. The US is only the muscle man taking orders from the Brutish Crown Corporation and its peado-satanic "elites".

The butcher of Iraq, with Nazi family roots, gen. Schwarzkopf was knighted by Her fucking "Majesty" for his services for the global empire in destroying that ME country, just as many US commanders, officials before him and after him. Iran's P Mossadegh was removed by the CIA on orders by the BP, one of the most evil companies in the world. Much more sinister, dark company is SERCO, a name that only few people hear from the MSM:

http://www.theeventchronicle.com/study/serco-corporate-octopus-tentacles-wrapped-around-globe/

http://www.abeldanger.org/kelly-226-sercos-marine-corps-bleeding-patents-con-air-bridge-of-drew-clintons-wagering-buck/

At the same time the US is being managed by the British agents who monitor and influence, often shape, manage, distract the public opinion as needed: Frost, John Oliver, Simon Cowell, any more.

London have always been a cozy, safe home for many "divide and conquer" radical propaganda agents of the Empire: SOHR, Chowdhary, Qardawi, Osama bin Laden, Khomeini, Muslim Brotherhood, many more...

The most densely populated by millionaires, billionaires and security cameras.

That's were global trade of oil, finance "engineering", gold manipulation have been taking place.

Rooted in John Dee necromancy, Jewish Kabala, Francis Bacon group (aka "William Shakespeare") created anglosphere, in opium wars,...

Another interesting recent read:

NEOCONS Part 4: How Safari Club became real CIA - The Sordid History of British Manipulation of American Democracy Series: Read it and weep!


Trump will end this Brutish anti-human global empire, that's why they are so hell-bent on destroying him...

Kudos for great reporting and comments!

PS Germany lost the last game in World Cup on purpose, they did not want to win, look carefully again - something's up on the global geopolitical stage...

Noirette , Jun 30, 2018 11:55:35 AM | 81
astonishing .. the "liberal" media MSM or the corporate establishment press has always gone along with all the coverups. Babyl-on. on torture.

.. a recent poll showing US citizen support for torture that proved the misinformed nature of the public responding to the poll..... karlof, 30.

MSM (W, particularly Anglo, but not only..) is 100% on the side of the most hateful and sadistic parties / entities / orgs. / crowd. Simultaneously, a driver, motivator and a mirror.

This stance has infected and brainwashed USA citizens, who per their history and mind-set -- free market, revanchard immigrants, genocide, slavery, opportunities for incredible exploitation - have lost what one might call an 'integrative' mind set, where 'integrating' ppl in to *join* (as in the original touted melting-pot which wasn't what it was purported to be) is no longer of any value, interest.

Concurrently, collectivism (might be called community solidarity or other friendly terms, not argh communism!) is reduced to local contact on specific issues (protecting a park), p-to-p efforts (food bank, donations to charity) or very weak and useless pol moves.

Individualism and tribalism (the two actually go together) leave no room for any general societal schemes - including anarchism! weird.. -- > empathy becomes limited to close friends and family accompanied by the adoption of purely functionalist reasoning, very reductive, sketchy, as all other view-points are eliminated, scotched.. (A leads to B to C etc.)

Torture is good because it forces confessions that can save other lives. Separating families is necessary, it deters others from coming. Prisons need to be expanded, evil violent robbers, rapists shouldn't freely roam the streets, etc. Yes and even family bonds are subject to exclusion, blame, hate, violence

I upped the traits to make a point. You all get the picture.

Guerrero , Jun 30, 2018 12:07:37 PM | 82
"Third world people look to the government hoping
to able to apply for a benefit and, of course, they do receive certain benefits of the government.

Really? That's funny, everywhere I've looked throughout my adult life I've seen the rich and big corporations looking to the government for benefits, and hoo boy do they get them.

Guerrero , Jun 30, 2018 12:18:44 PM | 83
"Third world people look to the government hoping to able to apply for a benefit and, of course, they do receive certain benefits of the government. Really? That's funny, everywhere I've looked throughout my adult life I've seen the rich and big corporations looking to the government for benefits, and hoo boy do they get them.

I certainly agree that the richies have increasingly had the inside track on government economic support, however the poor people in Mexico still hope and expect that the government will provide them with benefits, as it has in the past.

"The education policy of President Lázaro Cárdenas's six-year term originated scholarships and opportunities to underprivileged youth, underscoring an implicit belief that the last Indian in the sierra is a Mexican as well, and that a person of humble origens might become President of the Republic, or a great man or woman of letters, or a creator or a collaborator of enormous importance to the Mexican nation.
The rural normal schools were founded to help the poorest among the poor to gradually rise from the miserable pains of marginalization to better living conditions for themselves and their families. The mission of these schools was the instruction of their students in theoretical-practical knowledge of biology, literature, history, mathematics, and pedagogy, to train and prepare the normalists to alphabetize the population; so to speak: to liberate it. In those years, wherever a normal school was opened, it became a modernizing agent, it's mission was to teach future teachers to plant the alphabet and other basic forms of social knowledge in the arable population, with the expectation that their future students might become morally free."

Hoarsewhisperer , Jun 30, 2018 12:31:30 PM | 84
...
What can be done to redress the problems?
Until the people of the U.S. reclaim their democracy – Nothing!
The U.S. system of government is not the problem. The problem is that the system has been hi-jacked and turned from a democracy into an 'Oligarchic Dictatorship'.
Posted by: dh-mtl | Jun 30, 2018 8:34:19 AM | 74

I agree with much of what you wrote to support this conclusion however, it seems that The People in AmeriKKKa would rather whinge about their govt than take action to reform it. The fact that they swallowed the indigestible trope that McCain is a War Hero, without a whimper of protest, suggests that Wimpiness is alive and well in the US of A.

The UK's victims of Oligarchical Dictatorship (and the subject of this thread) on the other hand, don't take kindly to being treated like docile obedient morons. And this latest example of Criminal Executive Malfeasance will be angrily discussed and added to a growing list of similar outrages.

If revolution comes to AmeriKKKa it is more likely to come from without, rather than within. If the Brits kick up a big enough stink about what their govt thinks it can get away with then AmeriKKKans will notice and begin to realise they are in the same boat. When Americans wanted Britain's jackboot removed from their neck, the Revolutionary French were happy to oblige. Funnier things have happened than the looming prospect that AmeriKKKans will be inspired, by Brit efforts to remove a home-grown jack-boot, to do likewise to relieve their own frustration.

Revolution doesn't have to be violent. It can be achieved by citizens uniting behind an effort to 'encourage' the govt to adopt a shortlist of reforms which will grant citizens the right to have grievances considered, acknowledged, and rectified by govt.

Switzerland has such a system. Here's a brief summary...

Switzerland has a tradition of direct democracy. For any change in the constitution, a referendum is mandatory. For any change in a law, a referendum can be requested by the people. In addition, the people may present a constitutional Popular Initiative to introduce amendments to the federal constitution. The people also assume a role similar to the constitutional court, which does not exist, and thus act as the guardian of the rule of law."

Jackrabbit , Jun 30, 2018 12:47:18 PM | 85
Reality check:

"Defense" becomes a racket as soon as it prompts others to increase THEIR "defense". The only answer to guns is more guns. It is a self-licking I've cream cone that is exploited by neocons, Zionists, MIC, and others to the detriment of everyone else.

Security forces are, by their nature, non transparent and therefore subject to corruption. Proper governance would REMOVE incentives for corruption. Examples: legalize drugs, prostitution, and gambling; create strong, respectful alliances, and deal fairly with other countries.

Absent adequate safeguards, security forces will quickly grow to a size where they serve themselves FIRST. Serving powerful elites is part of that.

We now have the technology to fundamentally change how we are governed. The establishment will fight that change tooth and nail.

PS Even the Judeo-Christian religious tradition is a protect racket. You must believe (as proved by donations and other visible support) or you will go to hell or be accused of being a witch or devil worshipper.

Jackrabbit , Jun 30, 2018 1:03:32 PM | 86
We have to understand and come to grips with the fact that we are now ruled by a corrupt establishment. It is composed of many groups that have gotten cozy with each other: mafia, "cartel", industry groups whose foot soldiers are "lobbyists", CIA, MIC, neocons, oligarchs, etc. each has a grip that is reinforced by the others.

AFAICT, Direct Democracy offers the only way to break the pervasive, pernicious grip that they collectively hold on society.

Jackrabbit , Jun 30, 2018 1:24:28 PM | 87
Of course, the main political parties, their faux "ground roots" propaganda ops and partisan media "assets" should be added to the list.
Jackrabbit , Jun 30, 2018 1:28:10 PM | 88
George Carlin was right: It's one big club - and you ain't in it!
juliania , Jun 30, 2018 2:46:46 PM | 89
I thought the biggest club was the disenfranchised, Jackrabbit@88.

According to some comments above only the very few enlightened atheists rise above the fray, us dumb unwashed peons who believe everything we hear, see, read. Well, good for you, but good for the rest of us as well. We are not so dumb as you make out. We are not as you have characterized us. We actually think! We actually make up our own minds, and lots of what we think and decide for ourselves comports with what you think and decide! And in addition, for goodness sake, some of us have faith. I know it's hard for you to fathom, but I assure you it is so.

The few are those currently in control, who have wrested power away from the people and do not serve them, the ones who refuse to let the truth be told, such as the PM in the UK, as the report makes Some folk suppose Americans are brain washed, revealing their own shortsightedness. One might say that about the citizens of any country, if all you see is what the media of that country presents to you.clear. It really has nothing to do with religion or the lack thereof, or even with the mass media.

juliania , Jun 30, 2018 2:50:06 PM | 90
Sorry, should have been "as the Report makes clear." And erase the 'clear' at the end of the penultimate sentence. (Hiccup occurred with copy and paste.)
ben , Jun 30, 2018 2:57:55 PM | 91
b4real @ 79 said:"It was not my intent to hijack this thread."

Then don't:)

For Libertarian b4real:

https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/

Krollchem , Jun 30, 2018 3:23:47 PM | 92
Hoarsewhisperer@11

You may also appreciate the following article:
Empire's Double Edged Sword: Global Military + NGOs
Tearing down sovereign nations & replacing them with global system administrators.
by Tony Cartalucci
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/02/empires-double-edged-sword-global.html

Interesting that even Western states are being replaced by "system administrators" The system is now feeding on itself...

Hausmeister , Jun 30, 2018 4:50:35 PM | 93
@ PeacefulProsperity | Jun 30, 2018 11:45:16 AM | 80

OT:

"PS Germany lost the last game in World Cup on purpose, they did not want to win, look carefully again - something's up on the global geopolitical stage..."

Sounds interesting. I looked carefully again but could not see anything mentionable. could you please be a bit more specific?

b4real , Jun 30, 2018 8:51:56 PM | 94
@91

Libertarian?

You've got some reading to do...

Did you even read the article you linked to?


b4real

Daniel , Jun 30, 2018 9:04:43 PM | 95
Decades back, the KUBARK Manuael from 1963 a CIA torture training manual, was made public. It includes all the techniques that so "outraged" the US Congress when CIA torture was revealed during the Bush II regime, and are now "outraging" the British Parliament today.

But of course, not only were these torture techniques not new in 2005, they were not knew in 1963 either. The "arts" of torture extend back to prehistory, but can fairly be described as having become a science during the Nazi era.

Which brings me to some news in today's British press.

A woman named Gudrun Burwitz recently died at age 88. If the name doesn't ring a bell, perhaps it would help if we referred to her by her father's family name. For she was the daughter of top Nazi, Heinrich Himmler, Commander of the SS (Schutzstaffel), and claimed to be the author of the entire racial cleansing, "Final Solution," Holocaust program.

We are also told that Himmler somehow took a poison pill while in prison awaiting his execution, thereby "cheating justice." But this is about his daughter and the thread that leads to the Report on British torture.

Ms. Burwitz never disavowed Nazism and defended her father's reputation. She remained prominent in far-right politics throughout her life. She was reported to be a prominent member of Stille Hilfe (Silent Help), a secretive group known to provide legal and financial support to former SS members. She was also known to attend other neo-Nazi events and rallies before her death.

Oh, and she did hold jobs, too. She worked at BND (West German Secret Police/Intelligence) headquarters during the time the organisation was under the control of Reinhard Gehlen. Nazi General Reinhard Gehlen, of course, had headed the Russia Desk in the Oberkommando der Wermacht (OKW - Hitler's Supreme Headquarters). Later, he had been recruited by OSS/CIA Director Allen Dulles in the closing days of WW II and brought to service in the US.

This is a "rabbit hole" of considerable depth. I recommend reading "NATO's Nazi Beginnings: How the West implemented Hitler's goals" by Robert S. Rodvik.

psychohistorian , Jun 30, 2018 9:04:46 PM | 96
@ b4real with his call for some level of anarchism

Do you agree that humans are community oriented beasts at some level? What do you call that level of organization and how does one scale it...or is that a bad idea to you?

Is it anarchy all the way down?

I am fine to move this to the next open thread and feel some responsibility for my ongoing contextualization of stuff.

Daniel , Jun 30, 2018 9:22:23 PM | 97
Peter AU1 @27.

I agree that the Internet provided an awesome medium for the spread of information, much of which had only been available to readers of low-circulation alternative sources. We were witness to a "Golden Age" of largely unrestricted information flow.

And that is why the Internet in Europe and the US is being clamped down. Private companies people relied on, like youtube and facebook are deleting accounts and "throttling" traffic. Google is "deranking" sites such that some have seen traffic drop by 75%. "Net neutrality" has been overturned, so all of this and more is about to become much worse in the US.

A reminder for those who sometimes fall into a Pollyanna hopefulness.... as bad as our Western internet censorship is becoming, it's still a beacon of freedom compared to what China already has.

Daniel , Jun 30, 2018 9:58:02 PM | 98
Jen @57. Thanks for interjecting some real world examples into the theoretical "utopian" government/no government ideas being floated.

I'd add that internet voting has not shown itself to be trustworthy. Right now Estonia (or e-Estonia as it's now calling itself) is establishing an entirely internet-based life way. Everyone gets a bio-ID card. All financial transactions will go through that card, as is voting, medical records, education, etc. etc. etc.

Is this really "hack-proof?" If/when someone's entire life is hacked, will we even be allowed to know it happened?

China is developing their "social score" system similar to e-Estonia. In their case, they're bragging that whatever black box is keeping score will have the authority to prevent people from purchasing property, or boarding a train, or going to school, or voting or really anything at all.... all based on some algorithms programmed by some faceless bureaucrats.

Back to the "Venus Project" which someone linked earlier, such high-tech autocratic societies may be a big improvement for most people's lives. Maybe I'm some sort of Luddite to prefer things like paper ballots, filled out in ink and hand counted multiple times with observers from any interested parties.

But that still looks like a technology that isn't broken, and so doesn't need to be "fixed."

Peter AU 1 , Jun 30, 2018 10:01:09 PM | 99
@ Daniel
When in China I could not access anything google. Google browser, google search, google blogs. As I mostly used yandex everything else was fine. I could access all western propaganda and alternative news/blogs that were not on a google platform. I take it google was blocked because they were heavily involved in color revolutions and regime change operations.
Daniel , Jun 30, 2018 10:13:49 PM | 100
Peter AU 1. I think you're reading too much literalism into the folk tales written down by bronze age nomads as they took up an agrarian lifestyle. You might enjoy the book, "The Evolution of God" by Robert Wright. He is a bit too "evo/psych"" for my tastes, but overall his description of the current understanding of the archaeological, anthropological, paleographical and historical evidence is quite well presented.

[Nov 15, 2017] Hand-Marked Paper Ballots and Virginia's 2017 Elections

Notable quotes:
"... By Lambert Strether of Corrente . ..."
"... there should be no digital determination or intermediation of voter intent whatever ..."
Nov 15, 2017 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Posted on November 15, 2017 by Lambert Strether By Lambert Strether of Corrente .

As readers know, I'm a big fan of paper ballots[1], and the recent Election in Virginia gives me a chance to explain why. (The "recount" phase -- erroneously named, as what's been happening is resolving absentee and provisional ballots -- seems to have culminated with the Republicans keeping control of the Virginia House by a whisker, 49-51 .) First, I'll do that, and set up two requirements that any system for counting votes in a democracy should meet. Then, I'll look at Virginia's "Back to the Future" transition from digital voting to paper ballots.

From Brad Friedman's essay on " Democracy's Gold Standard" (with numbering added), a set of requirements for voting systems suitable for a democracy:

Last March, the country's highest court found that secret, computerized vote counting was unconstitutional. Unfortunately, the country was Germany, and the Constitution violated by e-voting systems was the one that the U.S. wrote and insisted Germans ratify as part of their terms of surrender following WWII.

Paul Lehto, a U.S. election attorney and Constitutional rights expert, summarized the German court's unambiguous, landmark finding :

"No 'specialized technical knowledge' can be required of citizens to vote or to monitor vote counts." There is a "constitutional requirement of a publicly observed count." "[T]he government substitution of its own check or what we'd probably call an 'audit' is no substitute at all for public observation." "A paper trail simply does not suffice to meet the above standards. "As a result of these principles, 'all independent observers' conclude that 'electronic voting machines are totally banned in Germany' because no conceivable computerized voting system can cast and count votes that meet the twin requirements of being both 'observable' and also not requiring specialized technical knowledge.

If you go through this set of requirements, you'll see that hand-marked paper ballots, hand-counted in public, meet every one of them. You will also see that digital voting systems, no matter how designed or implemented, cannot. They cannot, especially, meet requirements #1 ("no specialized technical knowledge to monitor") and #2 ("a publicly observed count"). The first requirement ensures that the voting process is not riggable by insiders with technical expertise (native, or hired); the second ensures that the actual voting is not rigged on election day. These are important requirements for a functioning democracy.

And that is how Germany conducts its voting today, from Deutsche Welle ( "German election: Volunteers organize the voting and count the ballots") .

Public observation:

On September 24, hundreds of thousands of volunteers will be handing out ballots, checking voters' names against lists, and counting votes once the polling station closes. The entire process is open to the public Every citizen is allowed to watch and monitor the entire counting process; and in effect, the volunteers monitor each other.

No specialized technical knowledge

[T]he volunteers open the ballot box, take out the envelopes and remove the ballot slips. They sort the ballots according to a pre-arranged system, decide on whether the votes are valid or invalid, and count the votes – reading out each vote aloud, which is noted in writing in a log.

At the end, the number of ballots is compared with the number of people who voted in that particular polling station.

Does that sound technical to you? The United Kingdom and Canada [3] also use handmarked paper ballots, counted in public, as do most [4] other countries. Many nations have -- I don't want to use the word "reverted" -- come home to paper ballots after experimenting with digital systems and finding them wanting; so have some states in this country.

Now, let's turn to Virginia. It's worth noting that Virginia's move back to paper is being applauded across the political spectrum . From the centrist Daily Banter , a summary of the history:

It wasn't until 2014, when the state experienced a myriad of problems on Election Day, that Governor Terry McAuliffe proposed an overhaul of the state voting system. By 2015, the Virginia Board of Elections decertified the use of WINVote, but they were still stuck with other DRE (Direct Recording Electronic) systems. This past summer, at a DefCon conference in Las Vegas, computer scientists staged a "Voting Machine Hacking Village" to prove the instabilities of DRE, which included a single password for all machines, physical ports to insert malware, and reliance on outdated software that had not been updated since the mid-2000s.

(Kudos, amazingly enough, to McAuliffe, who also managed to restore the franchise to felons .) The Richmond Times-Dispatch explains the Board of Elections' reasoning:

In emergency meeting, Virginia elections board votes to scrap all touch-screen voting machines

The Virginia State Board of Elections voted Friday to discontinue use of all touch-screen voting machines throughout the state because of potential security vulnerabilities, forcing 22 cities and counties to scramble to find new equipment just weeks before voting begins for the November gubernatorial election.

Behind closed doors at an emergency meeting in Richmond on Friday afternoon, the board heard about specific vulnerabilities identified after a cybersecurity conference this summer in Las Vegas, where hackers showed they could break into voting machines with relative ease.

In an interview, Elections Commissioner Edgardo Cortés acknowledged that the short time frame could put localities under the gun. However, 10 of the 22 localities that still use touch screens, either as their primary voting method or for more limited uses, have already begun buying new equipment, Cortés said. That leaves 12 that will have to start from scratch, but Cortés said the rapid swap is "doable" and worth the "hiccups" that may come with new equipment.

(The Banter points to "Russian targeting of last year's presidential election" (whatever that means) as do others , but if the threat of Russia hacking was a necessary cause for the Board's decisionl, it was certainly the DefCon that was the proximate one).[2] In any case, the Board's decision was taken September 8, and by Election Day, November 7, the transition was complete with no reported problems, which shows you the advantages of adopting simple, rugged, and proven systems. Here is how the system works, as described in a press release from Albemarle County :

The Albemarle County Department of Voter Registration and Elections wants to alert voters that a new, digital scan voting system will be used in all County voting precincts in the upcoming November 3, 2015 general election. The previously used "touchscreen" voting machines have been replaced by the new voting systems as a result of the Commonwealth of Virginia's mandate which requires jurisdictions move toward the use of digital scan technology.

With the new system, voters will mark paper ballots at marking booths, and then deposit the marked paper ballots into a digital ballot scanning machine, which will read the ballots, and drop them into a secure ballot storage bin. When the polls close on Election Day, at 7 PM, the election officers at the voting precincts will obtain the tabulated totals of votes from a results report that will be printed by the digital scanning machine. After the election, the paper ballots will be kept in secure storage for a period of one year, to ensure a voter-verified paper trail in the event of a recount.

Recall our two requirements. Can the Virginia System be said to meet them?

1) Public observation. Yes and no. Yes, because the ballot is handmarked, and dropped in the box in public. No, because the ballots are counted in the innards of the optical scanner. (This can be mitigated by storing the ballots for recounts later, if needed.) And no, because the actual running of the count from the scanners does not take place in public, nor (AFAIK) the integration into the totals of provisional and absentee ballots.

2) No specialized technical knowledge. Yes and no. Yes, because clearly paper ballots are an improvement in every way from the horrid touch screens. No, in the same that once again, the innards of the optical scanner must be relied upon. (This could be mitigated, depending on the choice of vendor, by dealing with an actual scanner industry, as opposed to a bunch of tiny, sketchy outfits purveying custom, proprietary software.)

In summary, and IMNSHO, there should be no digital determination or intermediation of voter intent whatever ; why should we trust the scanner software engineers, or those who run them? There's no reason to, any more than there's reason to trust the engineers or operators of mechanical voting machines.) Virginia's ballots are indeed hand-marked, but they are not hand-counted in public.[5]

With these strong caveats, Virginia's hand-marked paper ballots were well-received by the public, and that's progress. WAVY :

At a voting precinct at the Chrysler Museum in Norfolk, voters said they had no issues going back to pen and paper.

"It goes back to the old days, you know, we've been voting a long time, so we remember when they didn't have anything but paper ballots," said voter Winston Whitehurst.

Voter Kevin Rafferty said he enjoyed the switch.

"It works. I understand. At least if we're having to spend some time on it, we're the only ones in control, perhaps is the idea. Nobody else hacking on in I guess is their theory so hopefully it's safe," he said.

And WTVR :

"You can't hack paper," a man training a group of Hopewell poll workers on the new [optical scanning] machines said.

(But you can hack the scanners -- using "specialized technical knowledge" --
and you can social engineer any process where the ballots are not hand-counted in public.)

Conclusion

Of the two requirements, the ability to monitor election results without technical expertise is needed to prevent chicanery by those who structure the voting process. And the public count is needed to prevent chicanery on election day by those who inspect and count the ballots. Paper ballots can and do meet these requirements. That's why most Western countries use them, and why many other countries have returned to them, after experimenting with digital systems. Virginia's re-adoption of hand-marked paper ballots is a step forward, not backward.

NOTES

[1] For those who are concerned that paper ballots prevent ranked choice voting, Maine advocates disagree : "Ranked choice voting is designed to work with paper ballots."

[2] The idea that "foreign invaders" (as the Christian Science Monitor puts it) are the main threat for election theft seems very odd to me. Surely domestic operatives are, or at least should be, the main concern?

[3] I vividly recall a Quebec referendum where the Quebec "scrutineers" rejected a seemingly overlarge number of "No" ballots. But because the process was public, and not part of an algorithmic black box, the scrutineers could be called out. Although Canada does use electronic voting at the municipal level, the stakes are lower.

[4] Hilariously, a Google search on "How many countries use paper ballots" directs me to a WikiPedia page on "Electronic voting by country." 26 are listed. There are 195 countries.

[5] The convenience of election officials seems to bulk large in these disucussions; they don't want to be "up all night counting paper." Well, if the Germans (and the Canadians (and the Brits)) can make that investment in democracy, why can't we?

PlutoniumKun , November 15, 2017 at 6:50 am

Just an added note here to say that in Ireland, which uses Single Transferable Vote, the law states that the election candidates can appoint Counting Agents , known as Tallymen during the vote. They observe the opening of voting boxes and keep a tally during the count. As this allows them to get a good feel for voting patterns, it eliminates another potential source of fraud, box stuffing during or after the vote.

The Tallymen are so skilled they can often provide a very accurate result hours before the final result (vote counting is much more complex for STV). There is no interest at all from political parties for electronic voting because tally information is more fine grained than final totals (as it is box by box rather than district by district) and so provides each party with very valuable statistical information.

Anonymized , November 15, 2017 at 12:06 pm

Same in Canada but we call them "scrutineers" or monitors (at least in Ontario). I worked as an election official a while back (I think it was at the last provincial election) and one of the scrutineers raised a big stink because the number of votes were not the same as the number of people who voted. I left around 10 pm and I heard they were there until midnight trying to resolve this. It was pure schadenfreude for me because I wasn't selected as one of the vote-counting electoral officials but was just a lower-paid electoral assistant who barred people from entering the building from the wrong door and gave directions to the correct entrance. "Serves those idiots right for not picking me" was what I was thinking when I left.

Frenchguy , November 15, 2017 at 6:51 am

In France, the process is basically the same as in Germany. An interesting note, that I don't see mentionned, is that once the public count is done and the number of votes matches the number of voters, ballots are destroyed (except blank votes). A very sensible step as the whole process is fraud-proof and ballots could be tampered with afterwards.

In this sense, there are no recounts (except the basic maths check). You can only report to the courts irregularities in the process and there will be a new election if enough polling station were affected to swing the election.

And the process is generally not too long. The average seems to be between one and three hours so it's almost always done way before midnight (British seems to take a very long time, if anyone cares to explain to me why ?). Of course, it helps a lot that we don't elect a whole bunch of people on the same night (no lieutnant-governor, judges, sheriffs ), it's always one election at a time with a dozen choices at most (and half the time it's only two because of the two-round system).

Jim A. , November 15, 2017 at 8:12 am

Having used a number of different systems as I moved around the state of Maryland*, my favorite system was hand marked ballots that were scanned by machine at the voting place. My observations follow.

Old fashioned lever machines: They haven't made them for years, so there was always a shortage of machines which led to long lines. Despite the fact that people are familiar with them, they are an un-auditable black box like electronic voting machines.

Punched card machines. They always seemed physically a little difficult to operate and a slight misalignment could result in a miscast vote. But there is a recountable paper trail and only one or two scanners is required for each polling place.

Electronic voting machines. They're a completey un-auditable black box. They DO have the advantage of being easier to adjust for people with limited vision and other handicaps. Each voting station requires a separate machine, which means either greater expense or longer lines compared to other systems. My guess is that programming the ballots into them probably costs almost as much printing ballots and is more difficult to spot errors or fraud.

Hand counted ballots: The difficulty with hand counting ballots is that it is error-prone and slow.

Paper ballots and digital scanners would seem to be the best system that I have used with several caveats. You have to manually recount a random sampling of polling places to check for systemic fraud in the setup of the scanning machines. You have to have a good system to deal with errors and complications. How do you void ballots that have been mis-marked by accident? You have to make SURE that they aren't added to the tallys. You have to have a system for contested/contingent voting, a way to segregate and maintain those ballots until the eligibility of the voters is determined.

*It used to be that every county chose the vote system separately

lyman alpha blob , November 15, 2017 at 1:35 pm

You have to manually recount a random sampling of polling places to check for systemic fraud in the setup of the scanning machines.

That is an excellent suggestion however getting officials on board is not so easy. Our state got new optical scan machines in all larger precincts a few years ago and since they had never been used I made the same suggestion you did to our city council and asked for a random audit. They refused and told me that by state law the city was not allowed to do an audit just because they felt like it and the only way a recount could be done was if an election was close enough to be within the mandated threshold needed to trigger one. If they were correct about our state law, the state has actually made it illegal for cities to check the accuracy of the machines they use. That would need to be changed in order for your proposal to work.

I do still prefer handcounted paper ballots – I did get to participate in a hand recount eventually and it was a LOT quicker than you might expect.

The other issue is cost – it would be a LOT cheaper to pay people to count by hand than to replace millions of large pieces of aging machinery every decade or so.

lyman alpha blob , November 15, 2017 at 8:13 am

"You can't hack paper"

Maybe, but machines can't determine voter intent on paper ballots nearly as well as humans can. Our city uses these optical scanners and as noted last election season, we had a close race that triggered a recount that I participated in. The human beings actually counted more ballots than the machines did, as the machines didn't count those that were filled out improperly (circles not completely filled out, or checked rather than filled in, etc). Rough estimate, we were able to count approximately 2% more votes then the scanner did.

If we're going to keep pretending we still have a democracy here in the US, everybody's vote deserves to be counted in every election. The only way to do that is count paper ballots by hand.

Barry Fay , November 15, 2017 at 8:14 am

The FIRST TIME I heard that they were going to use IT technology for voting I thought they must be kidding. It is so obviously wrong ON THE FACE OF IT that I have always suspected the motives of those making that decision (although I suppose I should´t be too surprised at human laziness being a motivating force!). Anyway, it is to me just another sign of the dumbing down of America that this whole topic needs any discussion at all!!

nonclassical , November 15, 2017 at 11:55 am

Voltaire would have loved political position that the machines were perfect and unable be hacked until Chavez-Venezuela bought voting machine manufacturer

suddenly voting machines were suspect

Tom , November 15, 2017 at 9:15 am

Clinton conflates Virginia's switch to paper ballots with her claims that Russia hacked into voter rolls and possibly went even further. This is Clinton speaking about it on Monday at the Atlanta stop on her book tour.

Vatch , November 15, 2017 at 10:16 am

So maybe we're finally getting some benefit from the claims that the Russians were able to manipulate the election results in the United States! In reality, it's Republicans and Democrats who manipulate election results in the U.S., but I'll accept a victory, even if it's for the wrong reasons.

Tom , November 15, 2017 at 12:53 pm

Exactly! Clinton applauds the reduced risk of paper ballots, but of course has to muddle it all up with the dreaded Russian threat. I swear, Clinton can't help but link almost everything to Russia now -- listening to her is like plaing a constant game of 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, except it's 3 degrees and its Russia.

wilroncanada , November 15, 2017 at 7:33 pm

She'll continue to play six degrees of Kevin Bacon for the rest of her life–with egg on her face the whole time.

EoH , November 15, 2017 at 9:48 am

One would think that governments would require that any software to be used in a public election must be open source – not proprietary – and that it and its application be open to public audit.

Vendors unwilling to comply can take their sales people elsewhere. If vendors are hard to find, governments could join together in providing seed money for any number of parties to develop and maintain the necessary code.

This is the sort of change that should be part of any elections improvement commissions, not that the likes of Kris Kobach and his commission have in mind anything but voter suppression. The use of proprietary software in a public election is as appropriate as a cordon of watch dogs, lighted torches, or police cars outside a voting center.

PaulHarvey0swald , November 15, 2017 at 11:42 am

This. And why don't we turn the students at state run universities loose on it?

XXYY , November 15, 2017 at 12:06 pm

Long time software engineer here.

"Making the source code available" for a critical system makes a good sound bite, but in reality has a number of substantial problems:

o There is no guarantee that the compiled code in the box is the same as the purported source code made public. Even technical experts would have a very hard time confirming this, since the code in the box has been compiled down to machine instructions whereas the source code is normally in a high level language.

o The process of building (compiling and linking) the code introduces myriad opportunities for bad actors. E.g., code can include conditional sections or definitions that can be built in various ways. The build process itself invokes other programs that themselves can be hacked. Building also normally brings in third-party libraries of uncertain provenance, and for which the source is typically unavailable.

o Inspecting realistic industrial software for *inadvertent* problems, called a code review, is a big effort (many man weeks) and requires people with the requisite skills (often arcane) and expertise in the problem domain. Inspecting code for *deliberate hacks* would be much harder, and could well miss hacks anyway depending on the skill of the hacker.

Relying on public source code for security is a very weak reed and should be avoided altogether if at all possible.

PaulHarv3y0swald , November 15, 2017 at 4:40 pm

Fair enough. But why would proprietary code be better? I mean what stops a private vendor from doing this, but without public oversight? I mean to say "public code" in what ever form could be a start.

Synoia , November 15, 2017 at 5:19 pm

XXYY was not supporting proprietary code. I believe he was pointing out that "open source" does not have sufficient integrity for e;ections, thus closed source (proprietary code) is worse.

bsg , November 15, 2017 at 10:46 am

After the 2000 election, congress passed the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). Among the provisions of the bill, money was given to states and counties to upgrade their voting systems. Most of these new systems came online in the mid 00's.

Now that it has been around a decade, the generation of machines purchased with the help of federal money are getting long in the tooth. The average person changes their cell phone every 2-3 years, so a touch screen machine machine over a decade old feels especially ancient to a technophile.

There will be a trend toward paper ballots with this next generation. More states have added tougher paper trail requirements on DRE (touch screen) voting machines. and there is a lack of federal HAVA money available to states and counties to buy top-of-the-line DRE machines with paper trails. Vendors for this generation are pushing hybrid systems that allow a voter to input their choices onto a touch screen, then the machine prints out a paper ballot which (theoretically) removes ambiguous choices and allows disabled people to vote without assistance. But ultimately, if a jurisdiction is going to a paper system anyway, why spend more money on expensive hybrid machines that will break down in another ten years? I anticipate a push to paper ballots with optical scanning tabulation machines in the medium future.

nonclassical , November 15, 2017 at 11:52 am

and states can – do take away driver licenses – I.D. "legally" determining who gets to vote, by the hundreds of thousands, even over issues having nothing to do with driving, and primarily affecting the poor:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/10/22/4935/?utm_term=.604ea869bedb

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/10/america-punish-poor-debtors-drivers-license-suspension

http://www.jwj.org/these-two-states-will-revoke-your-license-if-you-cant-pay-back-your-student-loans

http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-services/license-restrictions-for-failure-to-pay-child-support.aspx

UserFriendly , November 15, 2017 at 12:50 pm

Minneapolis uses ranked choice with hand marked paper ballots that get scanned just like VA. But as I've said a million times ranked choice voting is bad for 3rd parties . Approval, range, or 3-2-1 are all much better options.
http://electology.github.io/vse-sim/VSEbasic/

ken , November 15, 2017 at 2:33 pm

The convenience of election officials seems to bulk large in these disucussions; they don't want to be "up all night counting paper."

What is the rush? Why not start counting at 8 am the next morning? The all night vote count thing serves no functional purpose. Get some sleep.

Joel , November 15, 2017 at 3:26 pm

What is the rush?

In my town, we have big election night parties at the downtown bars while volunteers go to the polling stations and phone back the preliminary results which are posted in the front windows or on the front doors.

A lot of politically connected people would have trouble sleeping the night of the election if they didn't have the results.

Grebo , November 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm

That was my initial reaction too. Then I wondered: who will be guarding the ballot boxes overnight?

Joel , November 15, 2017 at 3:23 pm

In my town's municipal election last week, it seems almost a tenth of voters were confused by the design of the ballot and circled their choice rather than filling in the bubble.

Since we're in Massachusetts and all elections use Scantron ballots and tabulating machines, any circled ballot was marked "blank" the same as ballots where no notation was made.

A lot of people, including quite a few first-time and infrequent voters, and voters with eyesight issues, were disillusioned by the fact that their votes would not be counted. Some were shocked the ballots are not in fact counted by hand.

[Oct 17, 2017] The Lobby British Style by Philip M. Giraldi

Maybe, instead of Russia-Gate, we have is Israel-Gate. This time Netanyahu discreetly interfering in US Presidential Election ..Chilling thought though!
Notable quotes:
"... casus belli ..."
"... To be sure, my observations are neither new nor unique. Former Congressmen Paul Findley indicted the careful crafting of a pro-Israel narrative by American Jews in his seminal book They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby , written in 1989. Professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt's groundbreaking book The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy said much the same thing nine years ago and discussions of Jewish power do emerge occasionally, even in the mainstream media. In the Jewish media Jewish power is openly discussed and is generally applauded as a well-deserved reward bestowed both by God and by mankind due to the significant accomplishments attributed to Jews throughout history. ..."
"... That many groups and well-positioned individuals work hand-in-hand with the Israeli government to advance Israeli interests should not be in dispute after all these years of watching it in action. Several high level Jewish officials, including Richard Perle , associated with the George W. Bush Pentagon, had questionable relationships with Israeli Embassy officials and were only able to receive security clearances after political pressure was applied to "godfather" approvals for them. Former Congressman Tom Lantos and Senator Frank Lautenberg were, respectively, referred to as Israel's Congressman and Senator, while current Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has described himself as Israel's "shomer" or guardian in the U.S. Senate. ..."
"... The documentary reveals that local Jewish groups, particularly at universities and within the political parties, do indeed work closely with the Israeli Embassy to promote policies supported by the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. ..."
"... That's the money shot, Phil. I'm okay with Jews, okay with the existence of Israel, all that, but I think we were massively had by Iraq II. When Valerie Plame spoke in my area, she talked disgustedly about a plan to establish American military power throughout the Middle East. She used the euphemism "neocons" for the plan's authors, and seemed about to burst with anger. ..."
"... I recall the basic idea was for the U. S. to do Israel's dirty work at U. S. expense and without a U. S. benefit, and I think there was the usual "God talk" cover in it about "democratization", "development", blah-blah. ..."
"... I'd also add Adlai E. Stevenson III and John Glenn. Stevenson was crucial in getting compensation -- paltry sum though it was– payed to "Liberty" families for their loss. The Israelis had been holding out. Something for which the Il Senator was never forgiven (especially by The Lobby). ..."
"... Netanyahu should not have been allowed to address the joint session. No foreign leader should be speaking in opposition to any sitting President (in this case Obama). It only showed the power of "The Lobby." Netanyahu who knew that Iran didn't have the weapons the Bush Adm. had claimed, was treated like a trusted ally. He shouldn't have been. ..."
"... Maybe, instead of Russia-Gate, we have is Israel-Gate. This time Netanyahu discreetly interfering in US Presidential Election ..Chilling thought though! ..."
"... And Israeli interference in U.S. government and elections is also a given. Endorsement of Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election by the Netanyahu government was more-or-less carried out in the open. ..."
"... All embassies try to further their national interest through political machinations and all people in politics tend to use hyperbolic language to describe what they are doing. I don't know if your shock is just for show or you are just a bit dim. The same applies to Buzzfeed's 'expose' of Bannon and the gasps the article let out at his use of terms like #War. ..."
"... The British government attitude was that everything was fine because the Israeli government "apologised" and the "rogue individual" responsible was taken out of the country, and the British media mostly ignored the story after an initial brief scandal. Indeed the main substantive response was the Ofcom fishing expedition against Al Jazeera looking for ways to use the disclosure of these uncomfortable truths as a pretext for shutting that company's operations down. ..."
"... The supreme irony behind all this is that Trump has been prevented by his own personal and family/adviser bias from using the one certain way of removing all the laughably vague "Russian influence" nonsense that has been used against him so persistently. All he had to do was to, at every opportunity, tie criticism and investigation of Russian "influence" to criticism and investigation of Israel Lobby influence under the general rubric of "foreign influence", and almost all of the high level backing for the charges would in due course have quietly evaporated. ..."
"... WASP culture has always been philo-Semitic. That cannot be stated too much. WASP culture is inherently philo-Semtic. WASP culture was born of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. ..."
"... You cannot solve 'the Jewish problem' unless you also solve 'the WASP problem.' ..."
"... The Israeli lobby is more powerful throughout the Anglosphere than the Saudi/Arabic lobby, but the Saudi lobby is equally detestable and probably even a more grave threat to the very existence of Western man. ..."
"... That the intelligence services of many countries engage in such conduct is not really news. Indeed, you could say that it's part of their normal job. They usually don't get caught and when accused of anything they shout "no evidence!" (now, where have I heard that recently?) Of course, if the Israelis engage in such conduct, then, logically, other countries' services do so too. ..."
"... Not surprising that the Jewish public gets gamed by Israeli political elites, just as the American public keeps getting gamed by our own cabal of bought politicians. Trying to fool enough of the people, enough of the time, contra Lincoln (who was not exactly a friend of critical dissent against war either .) ..."
Oct 17, 2017 | www.unz.com

One month ago, I initiated here at Unz.com a discussion of the role of American Jews in the crafting of United States foreign policy. I observed that a politically powerful and well-funded cabal consisting of both Jewish individuals and organizations has been effective at engaging the U.S. in a series of wars in the Middle East and North Africa that benefit only Israel and are, in fact, damaging to actual American interests. This misdirection of policy has not taken place because of some misguided belief that Israeli and U.S. national security interests are identical, which is a canard that is frequently floated in the mainstream media. It is instead a deliberate program that studiously misrepresents facts-on-the ground relating to Israel and its neighbors and creates casus belli involving the United States even when no threat to American vital interests exists. It punishes critics by damaging both their careers and reputations while its cynical manipulation of the media and gross corruption of the national political process has already produced the disastrous war against Iraq, the destruction of Libya and the ongoing chaos in Syria. It now threatens to initiate a catastrophic war with Iran.

To be sure, my observations are neither new nor unique. Former Congressmen Paul Findley indicted the careful crafting of a pro-Israel narrative by American Jews in his seminal book They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby , written in 1989. Professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt's groundbreaking book The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy said much the same thing nine years ago and discussions of Jewish power do emerge occasionally, even in the mainstream media. In the Jewish media Jewish power is openly discussed and is generally applauded as a well-deserved reward bestowed both by God and by mankind due to the significant accomplishments attributed to Jews throughout history.

There is undeniably a complicated web of relationships and networks that define Israel's friends. The expression "Israel Lobby" itself has considerable currency, so much so that the expression "The Lobby" is widely used and understood to represent the most powerful foreign policy advocacy group in Washington without needing to include the "Israel" part. That the monstrous Benjamin Netanyahu receives 26 standing ovations from Congress and a wealthy Israel has a guaranteed income from the U.S. Treasury derives directly from the power and money of an easily identifiable cluster of groups and oligarchs – Paul Singer, Sheldon Adelson, Bernard Marcus, Haim Saban – who in turn fund a plethora of foundations and institutes whose principal function is to keep the cash and political support flowing in Israel's direction. No American national interest, apart from the completely phony contention that Israel is some kind of valuable ally, would justify the taxpayers' largesse. In reality, Israel is a liability to the United States and always has been.

And I do understand at the same time that a clear majority of American Jews, leaning strongly towards the liberal side of the political spectrum, are supportive of the nuclear agreement with Iran and do not favor a new Middle Eastern war involving that country. I also believe that many American Jews are likely appalled by Israeli behavior, but, unfortunately, there is a tendency on their part to look the other way and neither protest such actions nor support groups like Jewish Voice for Peace that are themselves openly critical of Israel. This de facto gives Israel a free pass and validates its assertion that it represents all Jews since no one important in the diaspora community apart from minority groups which can safely be ignored is pushing back against that claim.

That many groups and well-positioned individuals work hand-in-hand with the Israeli government to advance Israeli interests should not be in dispute after all these years of watching it in action. Several high level Jewish officials, including Richard Perle , associated with the George W. Bush Pentagon, had questionable relationships with Israeli Embassy officials and were only able to receive security clearances after political pressure was applied to "godfather" approvals for them. Former Congressman Tom Lantos and Senator Frank Lautenberg were, respectively, referred to as Israel's Congressman and Senator, while current Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has described himself as Israel's "shomer" or guardian in the U.S. Senate.

A recent regulatory decision from the United Kingdom relates to a bit of investigative journalism that sought to reveal precisely how the promotion of Israel by some local diaspora Jews operates, to include how critics are targeted and criticized as well as what is done to destroy their careers and reputations.

Last year, al-Jazeera Media Network used an undercover reporter to infiltrate some U.K. pro-Israel groups that were working closely with the Israeli Embassy to counter criticisms coming from British citizens regarding the treatment of the Palestinians. In particular, the Embassy and its friends were seeking to counter the growing Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS), which has become increasingly effective in Europe. The four-part documentary released late in 2016 that al-Jazeera produced is well worth watching as it consists mostly of secretly filmed meetings and discussions.

The documentary reveals that local Jewish groups, particularly at universities and within the political parties, do indeed work closely with the Israeli Embassy to promote policies supported by the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It also confirms that tagging someone as an anti-Semite has become the principal offensive weapon used to stifle any discussion, particularly in a country like Britain which embraces concepts like the criminalization of "hate speech." At one point, two British Jews discussed whether "being made to feel uncomfortable" by people asking what Israel intends to do with the Palestinians is anti-Semitic. They agreed that it might be.

The documentary also describes how the Embassy and local groups working together targeted government officials who were not considered to be friendly to Israel to "be taken down," removed from office or otherwise discredited. One government official in particular who was to be attacked was Foreign Office Minister Sir Alan Duncan.

Britain, unlike the U.S., has a powerful regulatory agency that oversees communications, to include the media. It is referred to as Ofcom. When the al-Jazeera documentary was broadcast, Israeli Embassy political officer Shai Masot, who reportedly was a Ministry of Strategic Affairs official working under cover, was forced to resign and the Israeli Ambassador offered an apology. Masot was filmed discussing British politicians who might be "taken down" before speaking with a government official who plotted a "a little scandal" to bring about the downfall of Duncan. Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, who is the first head of a political party in Britain to express pro-Palestinian views, had called for an investigation of Masot after the recording of the "take down" demand relating to Duncan was revealed. Several Jewish groups (the Jewish Labour Movement, the Union of Jewish Students and We Believe in Israel) then counterattacked with a complaint that the documentary had violated British broadcast regulations, including the specific charge that the undercover investigation was anti-Semitic in nature.

On October 9 th , Ofcom ruled in favor of al-Jazeera, stating that its investigation had done nothing improper, but it should be noted that the media outlet had to jump through numerous hoops to arrive at the successful conclusion. It had to turn over all its raw footage and communications to the investigators, undergoing what one source described as an "editorial colonoscopy," to prove that its documentary was "factually accurate" and that it had not "unfairly edited" or "with bias" prepared its story. One of plaintiffs, who had called for critics of Israel to "die in a hole" and had personally offered to "take down" a Labour Party official, responded bitterly. She said that the Ofcom judgment would serve as a "precedent for the infringement of privacy of any Jewish person involved in public life."

The United States does not yet have a government agency to regulate news stories, though that may be coming, but the British tale has an interesting post script. Al-Jazeera also had a second undercover reporter inserted in the Israel Lobby in the United States, apparently a British intern named James Anthony Kleinfeld, who had volunteered his services to The Israel Project, which is involved in promoting Israel's global image. He also had contact with at least ten other Jewish organizations and with officials at the Israeli Embassy,

Now that the British account of "The Lobby" has cleared a regulatory hurdle the American version will reportedly soon be released. Al-Jazeera's head of investigative reporting Clayton Swisher commented "With this U.K. verdict and vindication past us, we can soon reveal how the Israel lobby in America works through the eyes of an undercover reporter. I hear the U.S. is having problems with foreign interference these days, so I see no reason why the U.S. establishment won't take our findings in America as seriously as the British did, unless of course Israel is somehow off limits from that debate."

Americans who follow such matters already know that groups like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) swarm over Capitol Hill and have accomplices in nearly every media outlet. Back in 2005-6 AIPAC Officials Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman were actually tried under the Espionage Act of 1918 in a case involving obtaining classified intelligence from government official Lawrence Franklin to pass on to the Israeli Embassy. Rosen had once boasted that, representing AIPAC and Israel, he could get the signatures of 70 senators on a napkin agreeing to anything if he sought to do so. The charges against the two men were, unfortunately, eventually dropped "because court rulings had made the case unwinnable and the trial would disclose classified information."

And Israeli interference in U.S. government and elections is also a given. Endorsement of Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election by the Netanyahu government was more-or-less carried out in the open. And ask Congressmen like Paul Findley, Pete McCloskey, William Fulbright, Charles Percy and, most recently, Cynthia McKinney, what happens to your career when you appear to be critical of Israel. And the point is that while Israel calls the shots in terms of what it wants, it is a cabal of diaspora American Jews who actually pull the trigger. With that in mind, it will be very interesting to watch the al-Jazeera documentary on The Lobby in America.

Rurik , October 17, 2017 at 4:29 am GMT

Philip Giraldi is a rare American treasure. A voice of integrity and character in a sea of moral cowardice and corruption. If there is any hope for this nation, it will be due specifically to the integrity of men like Mr. Giraldi to keep speaking truth to power.
googlecensors , October 17, 2017 at 5:00 am GMT
One is unable to open the documentary – all 4 parts – on YouTube suggesting that google/YouTube are censoring it and have caved into the Jewish Lobby
Malla , October 17, 2017 at 5:03 am GMT
When the Jewish Messiah comes, all of us goyim (Black, White, Yellow, brown or Red) will be living like today's Palestinians. Our slave descendant will be scurrying around in their ghettos afraid of the Greater Israeli Army military andriod drones in the sky.

But if I was a Westerner, I would support Israel any day. Because if the Israeli state were to be ever dismantled, all of them Israelis would go to the West. Why would you want that?

Frankie P , October 17, 2017 at 5:42 am GMT
@Rurik

He has been set free by the truth, proving the old maxim.

wayfarer , October 17, 2017 at 5:43 am GMT
Understand a Spoiled Child, and You Will Understand Israel. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiled_child

Discipline the Spoiled Child, and Boycott Israel. source: https://bdsmovement.net/

Israel Anti-Boycott Act – An Attack on Free Speech?

Dan Hayes , October 17, 2017 at 5:48 am GMT
Philip,

My admittedly subjective impression is that your UR reports are becoming more open/unbounded after your release from the constraints of the American Conservative . In other word, you're now being enabled to let it all hang out. In my book that's all to the good.

Of course your work and those of the other UR writers are enabled by the beneficence of its patron, Ron!

Uebersetzer , October 17, 2017 at 6:14 am GMT
There may be limits to their power in Britain. Jeremy Corbyn is hated by them, and stories are regularly run in the MSM, in Britain and also (of course!) in the New York Times claiming that under Corbyn Labour is a haven of anti-Semitism. Corbyn actually gained millions of votes in the last election. Perhaps they will nail him somewhere down the road but they have failed so far.
JackOH , October 17, 2017 at 6:59 am GMT
" . . . [W]ars in the Middle East and North Africa that benefit only Israel and are, in fact, damaging to actual American interests (emphases mine).

That's the money shot, Phil. I'm okay with Jews, okay with the existence of Israel, all that, but I think we were massively had by Iraq II. When Valerie Plame spoke in my area, she talked disgustedly about a plan to establish American military power throughout the Middle East. She used the euphemism "neocons" for the plan's authors, and seemed about to burst with anger. I looked up the plan, but don't recall the catch phrase for it.

I recall the basic idea was for the U. S. to do Israel's dirty work at U. S. expense and without a U. S. benefit, and I think there was the usual "God talk" cover in it about "democratization", "development", blah-blah.

Cloak And Dagger , October 17, 2017 at 7:43 am GMT
I remain skeptical that the Al-Jazeera undercover story in the US will be able to be viewed. I anticipate a hoard of Israel-firster congress critters to crawl out from under their respective rocks and deem Al-Jazeera to be antisemitic and call for it being banned as a foreign propaganda apparatus, much as is being done with RT and Sputnik.

I fear that we are long past the point of being redeemed as a nation. We can only watch with sorrow as this great nation crumbles under the might of Jewish power – impotent in our ability to arrest its fall.

Mark James , October 17, 2017 at 9:32 am GMT
ask Congressmen like Paul Findley, Pete McCloskey, William Fulbright, Charles Percy

I'd also add Adlai E. Stevenson III and John Glenn. Stevenson was crucial in getting compensation -- paltry sum though it was– payed to "Liberty" families for their loss. The Israelis had been holding out. Something for which the Il Senator was never forgiven (especially by The Lobby).

Netanyahu should not have been allowed to address the joint session. No foreign leader should be speaking in opposition to any sitting President (in this case Obama). It only showed the power of "The Lobby." Netanyahu who knew that Iran didn't have the weapons the Bush Adm. had claimed, was treated like a trusted ally. He shouldn't have been.

Kevin , October 17, 2017 at 9:37 am GMT
And the point is that while Israel calls the shots in terms of what it wants, it is a cabal of diaspora American Jews who actually pull the trigger. With that in mind, it will be very interesting to watch the al-Jazeera documentary on The Lobby in America.

Maybe, instead of Russia-Gate, we have is Israel-Gate. This time Netanyahu discreetly interfering in US Presidential Election ..Chilling thought though!

Tyrion , October 17, 2017 at 9:53 am GMT

And Israeli interference in U.S. government and elections is also a given. Endorsement of Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election by the Netanyahu government was more-or-less carried out in the open.

London's Mayor, Sadiq Khan, actually went to America to campaign for Hillary. Numerous European leaders endorsed her, while practically all denounced Trump. Exactly the same can be said of the Muslim world, only more so.

The problem with criticism of Israel is not that it lacks basis in truth. It is that it is removed from the context of the rest of the world. Israel's actions do not make Israel an outlier. Israel fits very much within the norm. Even with the recording this is the case.

All embassies try to further their national interest through political machinations and all people in politics tend to use hyperbolic language to describe what they are doing. I don't know if your shock is just for show or you are just a bit dim. The same applies to Buzzfeed's 'expose' of Bannon and the gasps the article let out at his use of terms like #War.

Unfortunately, contemporary idiots of all stripes seem to specialise in removing context so that they can further their specious arguments.

Randal , October 17, 2017 at 9:58 am GMT

"so I see no reason why the U.S. establishment won't take our findings in America as seriously as the British did"

Sadly, Clayton Swisher is probably correct that the US establishment will take their findings in America just as "seriously" as the British media and political establishment, and government, did.

The British government attitude was that everything was fine because the Israeli government "apologised" and the "rogue individual" responsible was taken out of the country, and the British media mostly ignored the story after an initial brief scandal. Indeed the main substantive response was the Ofcom fishing expedition against Al Jazeera looking for ways to use the disclosure of these uncomfortable truths as a pretext for shutting that company's operations down.

But there's no "undue influence" or bias involved, and if you say there might be then you are an anti-Semite and a hater.

The supreme irony behind all this is that Trump has been prevented by his own personal and family/adviser bias from using the one certain way of removing all the laughably vague "Russian influence" nonsense that has been used against him so persistently. All he had to do was to, at every opportunity, tie criticism and investigation of Russian "influence" to criticism and investigation of Israel Lobby influence under the general rubric of "foreign influence", and almost all of the high level backing for the charges would in due course have quietly evaporated.

geokat62 , October 17, 2017 at 9:59 am GMT
@Rurik

Philip Giraldi is a rare American treasure.

Rare, indeed, Rurik.

And in this rare company I would place former congressman, Ron Paul.

Here's an excerpt from his latest article, President Trump Beats War Drums for Iran :

Let's be clear here: President Trump did not just announce that he was "de-certifying" Iran's compliance with the nuclear deal. He announced that Iran was from now on going to be in the bullseye of the US military. Will Americans allow themselves to be lied into another Middle East war?

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/october/16/president-trump-beats-war-drums-for-iran/

animalogic , October 17, 2017 at 10:54 am GMT
This state of affairs, where the Zionist tail wags -- thrashes -- the US dog is bizarre to the point of laughter. Absent familiarity with the facts, who could believe it all? Is there a historical parallel ? I can't think of one that approaches the sheer profundity of the toxic embrace the Zionists have cover the US & west generally.
The Alarmist , October 17, 2017 at 11:01 am GMT
So how is using money we give them as foreign aid (it's fungible by any definition of the US Treasury and Justice Department) to lobby our legislators not a form of money laundering? Somebody ought to tell Mnuchin to get FINCEN on this yeah, I know, it sounded naive as I typed it. FINCEN is only there to harass little people like you and me.
Bardon Kaldian , October 17, 2017 at 11:05 am GMT
@googlecensors

Not true.

jacques sheete , October 17, 2017 at 11:15 am GMT
@Malla

Abby Martin is amazingly sharp. Many of the things she says can be confirmed by Uri Avnery, both his books and articles.

Here's a link to his weekly columns.

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery

Incredible stuff there; thanks for posting it.

jacques sheete , October 17, 2017 at 11:21 am GMT
@Malla

Our slave descendant will be scurrying around in their ghettos afraid of the Greater Israeli Army military andriod drones in the sky.

According to the first vid, those drones will be built by the goyim.

Maybe there's a message there for us.

jacques sheete , October 17, 2017 at 11:32 am GMT
@Cloak And Dagger

I fear that we are long past the point of being redeemed as a nation. We can only watch with sorrow as this great nation crumbles

We are long past that point.

I myself am watching with joy, because this supposedly "great nation" was corrupt to the core from its inception.

For evidence, all one has to do is read the arguments of the anti-federalists who opposed the ratification of the constitution* such as Patrick Henry, Robert Yates and Luther Martin. Their predictions about the results have come true. Even the labels, "federalist" and "anti-federalist" are misleading and no doubt intentionally so.

Those who spoke out against the formation of the federal reserve bank* scheme were also correct.

The only thing great about the US in a moral sense are the high sounding pretenses upon which it was built. As a nation we have never adhered to them.

*Please note that I intentionally refrain from capitalizing those words since I refuse to show even that much deference to those instruments of corruption.

ISmellBagels , October 17, 2017 at 11:45 am GMT
Philip, glad to see you undaunted after the recent attacks on you. We can maybe take solace in the fact that their desire for MORE will finally pass a critical point, and dumbass Americans will finally wake up.
jacques sheete , October 17, 2017 at 11:47 am GMT

"She said that the Ofcom judgment would serve as a "precedent for the infringement of privacy of any Jewish person involved in public life."

I have news for that twister of words.

In my opinion, if you choose to put yourself in the limelight, you have no private life. That is especially true for those who think they're entitled to a position of power.

In other words, if you think you're special, then you get judged by stricter standards than the rest of us.

It's called accountability.

BTW, speaking of Netanyahu, why do we hear so little about the scandal involving the theft of nuclear triggers from the US?

"The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith's revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s."

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-from-u-s-big-story-in-israel.html

jacques sheete , October 17, 2017 at 11:58 am GMT
Thank you Mr Giraldi. You covered an amazing number of issues in such a well written and compact article.

Thanks also to Mr Unz for publishing these sorts of things.

ISmellBagels , October 17, 2017 at 12:30 pm GMT
@jacques sheete

What she really meant by that was HOLOCAUST ALERT HOLOCAUST ALERT!!

Anon , Disclaimer October 17, 2017 at 12:42 pm GMT
@Malla

When you listen to Abby Martin describe her experience regarding this brutal apartheid system in Israel and the genocide of the Palestinian people, remember, Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic , was a prison guard in the Israeli Defense Forces guarding the West Bank death camp. And David Brooks, political and cultural commentator for The New York Times and former op-ed editor for The Wall Street Journal , has a son in the Israel Defense Forces helping to perpetuate this holocaust of the Palestinian people. I hope I live to see the day when some Palestinian Simon Wiesenthal hunts these monsters down and brings them to trial in The Hague.

iffen , October 17, 2017 at 12:47 pm GMT
NPR Morning Edition 10/17/17

Rachel Martin talks to Vahil Ali, the communications director for the Kurdish president.

In which she tries to steer him into calling for armed American intervention in Kurdistan to resist the Iranian sponsored militia.

LondonBob , October 17, 2017 at 12:58 pm GMT
The lobby is not as powerful in Britain as it is the US, we can talk about it and someone like Peter Oborne is still a prominent journalist, but I don't see that it makes that much difference. We seem to end up in the same places the US does.
Sherman , October 17, 2017 at 1:15 pm GMT
I had my meeting with the Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs and the Israeli Department of Hasbara last week and we discussed how our plan to suppress both the US and British governments is progressing.

Apparently we are meeting our targets and everything is going according to plan.

Thanks for update Phil!

ChuckOrloski , October 17, 2017 at 1:25 pm GMT
@geokat62

Hey geokat62,

Speaking about how greatly rare a treasure are the P.G.'s words, below is linked a deliberately rare letter written by Congressman Donald Rumsfeld on behalf of the AZC.

http://www.israellobby.org/azcdoj/congress/defaultZAC .

Also, re, "Will Americans allow themselves to be lied into another M.E. war?"

(Sigh)

History shows that, in order for ZUSA to start M.E. wars, Americans are routinely fed Executive Branch / Corporate Media-sauteed lies. Such deceit is par-for-the-course.

At present, it would be foolish for me to not realize there is a False Flag Pentagon plan "on the table" & ready for a war with Iran.

Jake , October 17, 2017 at 1:27 pm GMT
What is playing out in the UK, and is in early stages in America, is the fight between the two side of Victorian WASP pro-Semtiism.

WASP culture has always been philo-Semitic. That cannot be stated too much. WASP culture is inherently philo-Semtic. WASP culture was born of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy naturally and inevitably produces pro-Jewish culture. No less than Oliver Cromwell made the deal to get Jewish money so he could wage culture war to destroy British Isles natives were not WASPs.

WASP culture has always been allied with Jews to destroy white Christians who are not WASPs. You cannot solve 'the Jewish problem' unless you also solve 'the WASP problem.'

By the beginning of the Victorian era, virtually all WASP Elites in the Empire – who then had a truly globalist perspective – were divided into two pro-Semitic camps. The larger one was pro-Jewish. It would give the world the Balfour Declaration and the state of Israel.

The smaller and growing one was pro-Arabic and pro-Islamic. It would give the world the people who backed Lawrence of Arabia and came to prop up the House of Saud.

Each of these philo-Semitic WASP Elites groups was more than happy to keep the foot on the pedal to destroy non-WASP European cultures while spending fortunes propping up its favorite group of Semites.

And while each of those camps was thrilled to ally to keep up the war against historic Christendom and the peoples who naturally would gravitate to any hope of a revival of Christendom, they also squabbled endlessly. Each wished, and always will wish, to be the A-#1 pro-Semitic son of daddy WASP. Each will play any dirty trick, make any deal with the Devil himself, to get what he wants.

The Israeli lobby is more powerful throughout the Anglosphere than the Saudi/Arabic lobby, but the Saudi lobby is equally detestable and probably even a more grave threat to the very existence of Western man.

It is impossible to take care of a serious problem without knowing its source and acting to sanitize and/or cauterize and/or cut out that source. The source of this problem is WASP culture.

Michael Kenny , October 17, 2017 at 1:31 pm GMT
That the intelligence services of many countries engage in such conduct is not really news. Indeed, you could say that it's part of their normal job. They usually don't get caught and when accused of anything they shout "no evidence!" (now, where have I heard that recently?) Of course, if the Israelis engage in such conduct, then, logically, other countries' services do so too.

Thus, Mr Giraldi's argument lends credibility to the claims that Russia interfered in the US election and to the proposition that US intelligence agents are seeking to undermine the EU.

Since those two operations are part of the same transaction, i.e. maintain US global hegemony by breaking the EU up into its constituent Member States or even into the regional components of the larger Member States, using Putin as a battering ram and a bogeyman to frighten the resulting plethora of small and largely defenseless statelets back under cold war-era American protection, could it be that US and Russian intelligence services collaborated to manipulate Trump into the White House? If that were true, it would be quite a scandal! Overthrowing foreign governments is one thing, collaborating with a foreign power to manipulate your own country's politics is quite another! But of course, there's "no evidence"

Fran Macadam , Website October 17, 2017 at 1:32 pm GMT
Not surprising that the Jewish public gets gamed by Israeli political elites, just as the American public keeps getting gamed by our own cabal of bought politicians. Trying to fool enough of the people, enough of the time, contra Lincoln (who was not exactly a friend of critical dissent against war either .)
Anon , Disclaimer October 17, 2017 at 1:53 pm GMT
@wayfarer

Daphne Caruana Galizia exposed both local thieves and the CIA-Azerbaijan cooperation in supplying ISIS with arms:

https://www.rt.com/news/406963-assange-reward-caruana-galizia-death/ https://www.newsbud.com/2017/10/16/breaking-gladio-b-assassinates-journalist-with-car-bomb/

"Azerbaijan considers Malta to be "one of its provinces": https://daphnecaruanagalizia.com/2017/09/azerbaijan-considers-malta-one-provinces/
The Middle Eastern wars have repercussion .

[Sep 16, 2017] Virginia Scraps Electronic Voting Machines Hackers Destroyed At DefCon

Highly recommended!
Return to paper ballots is the only rational choice now...
Notable quotes:
"... the lack of a paper audit trail posed a significant risk of lost votes. ..."
Sep 16, 2017 | it.slashdot.org

(theregister.co.uk)

Posted by BeauHD on Tuesday September 12, 2017 @03:00AM from the nick-of-time dept. Following the DefCon demonstration in July that showed how quickly Direct Recording Electronic voting equipment could be hacked, Virginia's State Board of Elections has decided it wants to replace their electronic voting machines in time for the gubernatorial election due on November 7th, 2017.

According to The Register, "The decision was announced in the minutes of the Board's September 8th meeting: 'The Department of Elections officially recommends that the State Board of Elections decertify all Direct Recording Electronic (DRE or touchscreen) voting equipment."

From the report: With the DefCon bods showing some machines shared a single hard-coded password, Virginia directed the Virginia Information Technology Agency (VITA) to audit the machines in use in the state (the Accuvote TSX, the Patriot, and the AVC Advantage).

None passed the test. VITA told the board "each device analyzed exhibited material risks to the integrity or availability of the election process," and the lack of a paper audit trail posed a significant risk of lost votes.

Local outlet The News Leader notes that many precincts had either replaced their machines already, or are in the process of doing so. The election board's decision will force a change-over on the 140 precincts that haven't replaced their machines, covering 190,000 of Virginia's ~8.4m population.

[Dec 26, 2016] Russian Hacker Conspiracy Theory is Weak, But the Case For Paper Ballots is Strong

Dec 26, 2016 | politics.slashdot.org
(facebook.com) 286 Posted by msmash on Thursday November 24, 2016 @01:01PM from the stranger-things dept. On Wednesday, J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan's Center for Computer Security & Society and a respected voice in computer science and information society, said that the Clinton Campaign should ask for a recount of the vote for the U.S. Presidential election . Later he wrote, "Were this year's deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked. But I don't believe that either one of these seemingly unlikely explanations is overwhelmingly more likely than the other." The Outline, a new publication by a dozen of respected journalists, has published a post (on Facebook for now, since their website is still in the works), in which former Motherboard's reporter Adrianne Jeffries makes it clear that we still don't have concrete evidence that the vote was tampered with, but why still the case for paper ballots is strong . From the article: Halderman also repeats the erroneous claim that federal agencies have publicly said that senior officials in Russia commissioned attacks on voter registration databases in Arizona and Illinois. In October, federal agencies attributed the Democratic National Committee email hack to Russia, but specifically said they could not attribute the state hacks. Claims to the contrary seem to have spread due to anonymous sourcing and the conflation of Russian hackers with Russian state-sponsored hackers. Unfortunately, the Russia-hacked-us meme is spreading fast on social media and among disaffected Clinton voters. "It's just ignorance," said the cybersecurity consultant Jeffrey Carr, who published his own response to Halderman on Medium. "It's fear and ignorance that's fueling that." The urgency comes from deadlines for recount petitions, which start kicking in on Friday in Wisconsin, Monday in Pennsylvania, and the following Wednesday in Michigan. There is disagreement about how likely it is that the Russian government interfered with election results. There is little disagreement, however, that our voting system could be more robust -- namely, by requiring paper ballot backups for electronic voting and mandating that all results be audited, as they already are in some states including California. Despite the 150,000 signatures collected on a Change.org petition, what happens next really comes down to the Clinton team's decision.

[Dec 15, 2016] Georgia asks Trump to investigate DHS cyberattacks

Dec 15, 2016 | marknesop.wordpress.com
Pavlo Svolochenko , December 14, 2016 at 2:43 pm
Georgia asks Trump to investigate DHS 'cyberattacks'

If you want to know what Washington is doing at any given time, just look at what they're accusing the competition of.

yalensis , December 14, 2016 at 5:05 pm
As the Worm Turns!
For all those Amurican rubes out there who beleived that Homeland Security was protecting them against foreign terrorists – ha hahahahahaha!

[Dec 06, 2016] What the demand for recount tells us about Jill Stein?

Dec 06, 2016 | www.moonofalabama.org
jfl | Dec 3, 2016 5:54:00 PM | 31

A Bare-Knuckle Fight Over Recounts

Since recounts that overturn the vote totals seem unlikely, it appears the Clinton campaign's Plan B is to use any evidence of tampering that it can pin on Russia to lobby electors to change their votes to Clinton when the Electoral College meets in state capitals on Dec. 19.

Finding evidence of hacking of election computers that can somehow be blamed on Russia could be crucial for the Clinton team in their effort to convince electors to change their vote.

Laurence Tribe, a well-known and connected Democratic lawyer, has offered to defend pro bono any elector who breaks the law by changing their vote to Clinton. And there are plans to mount a constitutional challenge against the 26 states that legally bind the electors' to their state's popular vote.


Jill Stein's willingness to provide cover for 'the Russians hacked the election' recounts is interesting ...

Exhibit A in Stein's petition is an affidavit from Professor J. Alex Halderman, a professor of computer science at the University of Michigan, who alleges that Russia hacked the election.

Exhibit B from Stein's petition is an article from Wired Magazine about Russia's alleged role in the hack.

Exhibit C is a New York Times article quoting DellSecureWorks, a private security firm, saying Russia was behind the hack of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

Exhibits D through G - meaning all of Stein's exhibits - are on alleged Russian hacking. One article is about an alleged attempted Russian hack of the 2014, post-coup Ukrainian election.


... although I think it unlikely that 'the Russians hacked the election' it does look likely that the authors of that 'meme' managed to get Jill Stein to carry their water for them. Why did she do that? Did she even read the petition - that drew $7 million in funding overnight - before signing it? What does it say about her if she didn't? What does it say about her if she did?

What does it say about her that she went for such a lose-lose proposition?

Can an actual run on the electoral college be in the works? Can that be the 'reasoning' behind Jeff Bezos' ProPornoTeam?

[Nov 30, 2016] Why no New Hampshire recount? So good job Stein, you just destroyed the only credible left alternative

So Clintons bought Jill Stein. Nice...
www.moonofalabama.org
bigmango | Nov 29, 2016 1:52:16 PM | 22

@Jack Smith | Nov 29, 2016 12:50:24 PM | 10

Correct. Many of the people (me included) who voted Green for obvious anti-Clinton reasons were also very suspicious of Trump. So Green made sense. But all of these people now feel utterly betrayed by Stein's greed or fronting for the Clintons. Why no New Hampshire recount? So good job Stein, you just destroyed the only credible left alternative while the Dems are mortally wounded on the their left flank and the Clinton mob are taking resumes for a new sheepdog to get the wayward Sandernistas back into their stinking little corner of Hillary's big tent where they belong.

Jackrabbit | Nov 29, 2016 6:03:01 PM | 44

@32 follow-up

...This recount is serious business. The Greens don't have the organizational aptitude or money to have accomplished what needed to be done within days. That indicates that Democrats/Clinton cronies are behind this. And the Clinton press corps have been engaged as well.

Noirette | Nov 30, 2016 12:58:53 PM | 115

Now Stein has allowed the dems to buy her ass, one has to wonder - why? Debs is dead at 60.

Because carreerism, because her position was always to get ahead in a major party (not Repub. obviously), to capitalise on her popularity.

Many Greens are like that all over the OECD world. They get 'splinter support', often quite high in votes, using seductive discourse, to then join the Top Brass promoting "renewables" using all kinds of inclusive and enviro-friendly, vague but marginal, leftist discourse, avoiding the 'economy' and 'real numbers' and for that matter deeper politics e.g. "sustainable communities" , "sharing", "grass roots initiatives", "husbanding energy", "respecting traditional ways of life", "integrating people", "developping solar", "promoting electric cars" and forbidding plastic bags, etc. etc.

The powerful party apparatus integrates them as a 'voice' for whatever is the gout-du-jour memes and everyone, including the dominant energy conglomerates are all happy. The person earns potentially well a lot.

Sorry to be so cynical and negative but I have seen Greens do this time and time again.

I don't hate or dislike Jill Stein. Just, that is the general trend and from what I have seen (maybe superficial) she is not different from the mold.

The ways of the world and Nature bats last...

[Nov 23, 2016] Recounts in states, when the total vote difference is in the single digit and where hundreds of thousands votes were cast should be mandatory

Notable quotes:
"... I was one of those recounting the votes by hand and when all was said and done we wound up counting over 100 votes more than the machines had counted and we only recounted ballots that contained votes for the 2nd and 3rd place candidates so there were potentially and quite probably an even higher number of ballots that weren't counted the first time around. A rough estimate is that 1-2% of the initial votes weren't counted at all by the machines. ..."
"... The ballots that were initially counted weren't marked in any way so we had no way of knowing which ballots had been previously counted by the machines and which hadn't however we were able to make some educated guesses after looking through thousands of ballots. ..."
"... After the recount we picked up some votes but not enough to change the results which was actually pretty reassuring as the extra votes tallied were in the same proportion for each candidate to what the machines initially tallied which is what you'd expect over a large sample size. ..."
"... What we found is that while these particular machines did accurately count the ballots they were able to count, they cannot count all of them due to user error which is pretty difficult to eradicate – some people simply won't follow directions properly no matter how clear they are. ..."
"... We caught some flak when asking for the recount about the presumed large cost to the taxpayer however the cost turned out to be minimal. Each candidate had 8 volunteers plus 8 more election clerks who were paid $11/hr by the city to supervise the volunteers. Our 8 teams of 3 managed to go through around 12K ballots in about 5 hours. ..."
"... The solution is to have all ballots for every election counted by hand in public immediately after the polls close. It isn't rocket science, it's not that expensive and it's the only way to ensure that everyone's vote is actually counted. ..."
Nov 23, 2016 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Regarding recounts, when the total vote difference is in the single digit thousands in large states where hundreds of thousands or more votes were cast, the candidates shouldn't have to ask for a recount, it should be mandatory*.

I've been asking my city to do a recount to verify the accuracy of the machines for several years and was told that the state law would not allow for a recount simply for accuracy's sake (unbelievable!) and the only way for a recount to happen would be after a close election.

Well my significant other stood for election in a city race this year, and how ironic, came within about 50 votes of winning and we got to ask for a recount! This was an odd race where voters chose two out of seven candidates for the two open seats. One candidate won by a clear margin and 2nd and 3rd place were separated by about 50 votes. I was one of those recounting the votes by hand and when all was said and done we wound up counting over 100 votes more than the machines had counted and we only recounted ballots that contained votes for the 2nd and 3rd place candidates so there were potentially and quite probably an even higher number of ballots that weren't counted the first time around. A rough estimate is that 1-2% of the initial votes weren't counted at all by the machines.

The ballots that were initially counted weren't marked in any way so we had no way of knowing which ballots had been previously counted by the machines and which hadn't however we were able to make some educated guesses after looking through thousands of ballots.

After the recount we picked up some votes but not enough to change the results which was actually pretty reassuring as the extra votes tallied were in the same proportion for each candidate to what the machines initially tallied which is what you'd expect over a large sample size.

What we found is that while these particular machines did accurately count the ballots they were able to count, they cannot count all of them due to user error which is pretty difficult to eradicate – some people simply won't follow directions properly no matter how clear they are.

We caught some flak when asking for the recount about the presumed large cost to the taxpayer however the cost turned out to be minimal. Each candidate had 8 volunteers plus 8 more election clerks who were paid $11/hr by the city to supervise the volunteers. Our 8 teams of 3 managed to go through around 12K ballots in about 5 hours.

The solution is to have all ballots for every election counted by hand in public immediately after the polls close. It isn't rocket science, it's not that expensive and it's the only way to ensure that everyone's vote is actually counted.

* Lest anyone accuse me of trying to get Clinton in, I say all of this as someone who would rather be shot in the face by Dick Cheney than cast a ballot for any of the Clinton's or their spawn, legitimate or otherwise.

[Nov 21, 2016] A Brief History of Vote-Rigging

Notable quotes:
"... Harris later learned that the lever machine companies and technicians had all been convicted of election fraud, going back to the 1880s, all over the US. Lever machine tampering was also discovered not long ago that changed election results, resulting from a single "miscalibrated" machine that it turned out had been producing anomalous results for over a decade. ..."
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TheCatSaid November 20, 2016 at 9:59 am

[Response to Ulysses' comment] This begs the question of whether those votes were cast or counted accurately. In my early days of learning about election fraud (particularly at the Black Box Voting.org website and discussion threads), a topic that came up time and again was that there was extensive history of election fraud associated with union elections. IIRC, as electronic voting machines were being actively promoted, one of the avid supporters of using these methods was trade unions.

A couple articles that touch on some of the history (though not specifically in relation to unions) are this one by Victoria Collier written in 2012 but with some important history, and chapter 4, "A Brief History of Vote-Rigging" from Bev Harris' book (available free online).

Harris later learned that the lever machine companies and technicians had all been convicted of election fraud, going back to the 1880s, all over the US. Lever machine tampering was also discovered not long ago that changed election results, resulting from a single "miscalibrated" machine that it turned out had been producing anomalous results for over a decade. Richard Hayes Phillips in his lectures and book about the theft of the OH 2004 election (and thus the presidency) describes with detail how one of the methods used was altering the punch cards or sending voters to the wrong precinct machine, so their ballot would end up with undervotes or overvotes and not be counted.

It would be interesting to know about the election procedures for that union election, particularly the Canadian vote. Was it on machines? Paper? How secure was the chain of custody of the ballots?

[Nov 08, 2016] It seems to me that early voting should be abolished, voter photo ID SHOULD BE required by law in all states

Nov 08, 2016 | www.zerohedge.com
Pinto Currency Vatican_cameo Nov 8, 2016 12:35 PM

Check out Call for America.

Their automated polling system tells a completely different story:

http://callforamerica.com/

manofthenorth Pinto Currency Nov 8, 2016 12:51 PM

It seems to me that early voting should be abolished, voter photo ID SHOULD BE required by law in all states.

Also to keep things as clean as possible there should be a media "NO FLY ZONE" on polling outcomes until ALL POLLS are closed in all states.

So much wag the dog it is just disgusting.

Praying for justice.

roddcarlson -> Scuba Steve •Nov 8, 2016 1:16 PM

The early vote (aka the mail in ballots) were compromised. Right the FBI kept sacking the Dems with mail in ballot forms, it must've been like a drug bust all those voting confetti sitting there like paper dollars. Dems crying you are hindering our right to vote! Hopefully the later day voting goes in our favor, but considering Soros electioneering electronics machines with no way to track it may not.

If we lose the vote then America is cooked literally. But the vote was cooked books if it does happen, so we won't be judged for that. What we as a nation may be judged for is severe apathy and embracement of things for our personal gain years earlier where it was obviously wrong. We should have never let these politicians get away with things like Iraq after learning there were no WMD. Or free trade that was exporting our manufacturing base to every totalitarian government abroad. Or our keeping up with the Jones by bigger and bigger mortgages we could barely afford the old one. Or uncontrolled immigration. We should have put our foot down a long time ago and made these uppers fear like Vietnam the whole thing was unstable and going to capsize on their butts.

But I can pretty much tell you that Americans (true ones) aren't guilty of this electioneering. The invader Mexicans and other parasites think they are somehow going to get on top of this thing. You know I still love them to this day. I remember falling down some stairs carrying a heavy desk, while some legal Mexican American citizens came and picked me up and then helped carry the desk too. So I'm not judging people individually based on their skin or ethnic background, I however am not foolish to say there is a problem of means here either. Hope all the invader Mexicans like Mexico II where they get to live out of cardboard boxes and railroad cars, because they killed the American host and now get their very own Mexican culture that is wholly immoral here too. Well don't worry because you get a taste of this Hillary invasion as well, with your nemesis the Muslims she is going to import in here. You see parasite never stop loving bigger problems for the host.

If we lose this election white people need to start taking care of their own. I've had many races that were my best of friends, and I'm not at all going to say I hate those people I will never hate them. But the white people are under attack by a systematic attempt to dispossess them from people like Soros. We still hold the reigns of economic power, even in our weakened state. We can still peacefully (hopefully) use that power to say no to the 3rd world takeover of our country.

Again early vote may mean nothing given the found stuffed cheated ballots at Dem headquarters. But do not think that we accept this NWO takeover, we've overlooked many previous incursion that has let it get this bad but no more even with a Hillary win.

jcaz -> Ghost of PartysOver •Nov 8, 2016 12:02 PM

Bullshit.

The line I stood in this am was Trump up and down- everyone unhappy with the prospect of more of the same corrupt shit.

Not buying this story.

Ghost of PartysOver d jcaz •Nov 8, 2016 12:14 PM

It is really pretty easy to understand. Wall Street, including all the Hedge Funds, Banks .... have bought and paid for HRC. They control her. Wall Street will get what it wants which is more of the same; market manipulation, inside dealings, payoffs, lack of perp walks. You name it. This is a very good scenario for those bastards. Hence markets will rally.

Trump on the other hand will lock those bastards up. Markets will fall.

Pres HRC means outstanding next QTR reports and of course bonuses. Any illegal activity will be met with a slap on the wrist (Corzine ring a bell)

Pres Trump means reigning in the the crap and the next QTR report will not be so rosy. And bonuses will be much, much lower. Any illegal activity will be met with a perp walk.

I am a Trump fan and I am a realist.

[Oct 24, 2016] Majority of Democrats and Republicans Believe Voter Fraud Occurs

Notable quotes:
"... But 30 percent of Republicans and 27 percent of Democrats agree that voter suppression occurs by purging eligible voters from the registration rolls. ..."
Oct 24, 2016 | www.breitbart.com

A Washington Post analysis of Pollfish data shows that 84 percent of Republicans, 52 percent of Democrats, and 75 percent of independents believe that a "meaningful amount" of voter fraud occurs during elections.

Sixty percent of Republicans believe that illegal immigrants are voting, much higher than Democrats and independents.

Democrats focus more on voter ID laws, with 32 percent suggesting that it contributes to voter suppression. (Only 26 percent of Republicans feel the same way.)

But 30 percent of Republicans and 27 percent of Democrats agree that voter suppression occurs by purging eligible voters from the registration rolls.

[Oct 24, 2016] Soros-Linked Voting Machines Cause Concern Over Rigged Election

Notable quotes:
"... Obama said back in 2008: "I want to be honest, it's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past. Sometimes, Democrats have, too." ..."
"... hillary goes along with CIA and the neocon/zionist/MIC agenda but she's replaceable. ..."
"... An out of control, above the law, criminal mafia acting on behalf of the Saudis and Israelis (if you think Syria is about the petrodollar or a Qatari pipeline... Think again - it's about Iran and Russia and about Greater Israel and its Leviathan and Golan gas most of all - Zbig et al would prefer to be full battle rattle in Ukraine and Chechnya...) is stopped how? ..."
Oct 24, 2016 | www.zerohedge.com
A U.K. based company that has provided voting machines for 16 states, including important battleground states like Florida and Arizona, has direct ties with billionaire leftist and Clinton crusader George Soros.

With recent WikiLeaks emails showing that Hillary Clinton received foreign policy directives and coordinated on domestic policy with Soros , along with receiving tens of millions of dollars in presidential campaign support from the billionaire, concerns are growing that these shadowy players may pull the strings behind the curtains of the upcoming presidential election.

As Lifezette reports , the fact that the man in control of voting machines in 16 states is tied directly to the man who has given millions of dollars to the Clinton campaign and various progressive and globalist causes will surely leave a bad taste in the mouth of many a voter.

The balloting equipment tied to Soros is coming from the U.K. based Smartmatic company, whose chairman Mark Malloch-Brown is a former UN official and sits on the board of Soros' Open Society Foundation.

According to Lifezette , Malloch-Brown was part of the Soros Advisory Committee on Bosnia and also is a member of the executive committee of the International Crisis Group, an organization he co-founded in the 1990s and built with funds from George Soros' personal fortune.

In 2007 Soros appointed Malloch-Brown vice-president of his Quantum Funds, vice-chairman of Soros Fund Management, and vice-chairman of the Open Society Institute (former name of OSF).

Browns ties also intertwine with the Clintons as he was a partner with Sawyer-Miller, the consulting firm where close Clinton associate Mandy Grunwald worked. Brown also was also a senior advisor to FTI Consulting, a firm at which Jackson Dunn, who spent 15 years working as an aide to the Clintons, is a senior managing director.

When taking that into account, along with the poor track record Smartmatic has of providing free and fair elections, this all becomes quite terrifying.

An astonishing 2006 classified U.S. diplomatic cable obtained and released by WikiLeaks reveals the extent to which Smartmatic may have played a hand in rigging the 2004 Venezuelan recall election under a section titled "A Shadow of Fraud." The memo stated that "Smartmatic Corporation is a riddle both in ownership and operation, complicated by the fact that its machines have overseen several landslide (and contested) victories by President Hugo Chavez and his supporters."

"The Smartmatic machines used in Venezuela are widely suspected of, though never proven conclusively to be, susceptible to fraud," the memo continued. "The Venezuelan opposition is convinced that the Smartmatic machines robbed them of victory in the August 2004 referendum. Since then, there have been at least eight statistical analyses performed on the referendum results."

"One study obtained the data log from the CANTV network and supposedly proved that the Smartmatic machines were bi-directional and in fact showed irregularities in how they reported their results to the CNE central server during the referendum," it read.

With such suspicion and a study which claims to prove that the U.K. firm's equipment tampered with the 2004 Venezuelan recall election, should be enough for states to reject these machines if they desire a fair election.

Smartmatic is providing machines to Arizona, California, Colorado, Washington DC, Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Nevada, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin, which means these Soros and Clinton linked machines are going to take the votes of thousands of Americans.

While GOP nominee Donald Trump has been voicing his opinion that the elections are indeed rigged due to media bias, and the proof that mainstream polls are heavily weighted to favor Clinton , it is needless to say that if the results show Hillary as a winner in November, there is going to a mess to shuffle through to find signs of honesty.

MillionDollarBonus_ Ghost of PartysOver Oct 24, 2016 10:57 AM ,

MSNBC are reporting that Hillary is absolutely surging and now leading by double digits! America is going absolutely wild for Hillary!! This is very exciting – I can sense victory, and I see that bitter right-wingers can sense defeat as they pre-emptively blame their loss on vote rigging. There is no such thing as election rigging, unless we're talking about Al Gore losing to Bush – there was clear evidence of rigging during this election. But Republicans are known for rigging elections. Democrats have never, and will never rig an election.

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Cliff Claven Cheers BaBaBouy Oct 24, 2016 11:02 AM
We the people ask congress to meet in emergency session about removing George Soros owned voting machines from 16 states

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/we-people-ask-congress-meet-e...

Signed the Deplorably Dicked

DD

Beam Me Up Scotty Cliff Claven Cheers Oct 24, 2016 11:29 AM ,
Two words: PAPER BALLOTS!!! How anyone with 3 brain cells or more can't see that paper ballots are the way to go when voting is beyond me. There is a paper trail, and they cannot be hacked. They can be recounted. Machines are easily manipulated and there is NO PAPER trail to recount. Use paper ballots and tell Gerge Soros to go fuck himself.
Notveryamused Manthong Oct 24, 2016 12:11 PM ,
The Soros voting machine issue is one of the largest problems with this election. Trump has mentioned him by name twice during the debates and has also talked openly about a 'rigged' election. I hope he will address this directly.

We're already seeing the polls skew in Clinton's direction in unusual states like Arizona so even that is on the cards to be stolen.

Mroex Beam Me Up Scotty Oct 24, 2016 11:54 AM ,
Yes you are Damn right. Paper ballots were used in the Brexit vote and surprise surprise the people won

I can wait a day or two for results, I do not need instant results

Paper ballots would be kept under lock and quarded by representives of both parties

then when the time has come they would be counted and verified by both party reps

FUCK any form of voting machine, be it electronic or be it mechanical

fx MillionDollarBonus_ Oct 24, 2016 11:18 AM ,
LOL, not even your big hero Barry would claim that. To wit: Obama said back in 2008: "I want to be honest, it's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past. Sometimes, Democrats have, too."

And this time, it seems to be more than some monkeying on part of Hitlery and Barry. Rather "we rigged some votes and screwed some folks." Go figure.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-22/obama-warned-rigged-elections-b...

AViewFromDublin fx Oct 24, 2016 11:26 AM ,

Speaking at a rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, Million Dollar Bonus said: "To say you won't respect the results of the election, that is a direct threat to our democracy.

"The peaceful transfer of power is one of the things that makes America America.

And look, some people are sore losers, and we just got to keep going" It was actually Hillary Clinton who said that, same difference lol,
War Machine crossroaddemon Oct 24, 2016 11:29 AM ,
You make a good point, and to distill the matter to its essence, apart from a controlled media and well established and entrenched special, foreign and banking interests in DC... The CIA is a CRIMINAL MAFIA acting under color of law, currently taking Saudi money to pay jihadi and 'blackwater' type mercs in Syria, and by the way Yemen, and elsewhere, to include the slow ramp up in E Ukraine.

hillary goes along with CIA and the neocon/zionist/MIC agenda but she's replaceable.

No they can and will steal this election if, in fact, Trump were to get a majority of votes (which by the way is unlikely - study the demographics... trump can not beat hillary when she has 70/80% of women, the latinos, blacks, leftists, and so on) - but the underlying issue remains:

An out of control, above the law, criminal mafia acting on behalf of the Saudis and Israelis (if you think Syria is about the petrodollar or a Qatari pipeline... Think again - it's about Iran and Russia and about Greater Israel and its Leviathan and Golan gas most of all - Zbig et al would prefer to be full battle rattle in Ukraine and Chechnya...) is stopped how?

Considering that US military personnel may quite literally be killed by CIA provided weapons, one might posit that one scenario is CIA personnel being hunted down and arrested (or not) by elements of the US special forces although this doesn't happen without either strong and secure leadership or some paradigm-shifting revelation.

For example- if more knew how exceedingly likely it is that 9/11 was an inside/Israeli job... Knew it... Things might change.

but I'm not optimistic.

hillary means ww3, and we are not the good guys. If we ever were..

Mroex crossroaddemon Oct 24, 2016 11:39 AM ,
Things were way different back when JFK was killed, I know I was around then.

For one thing there was no internet, and people trusted and respected the media (TV and Newspapers) This trust made it very easy to coverup and / or bury details.

People overwhelmingly trusted government officials, Very few people questioned what government and media told them, again this makes it super easy to lie and coverup

I repect your question, and I hope you consider what I said. I am trying to make the case that assasination is no longer an option, not unless they want to truly start a real civil war. Which I would not rule out. But if they wish to keep the status quo and the sheep silent, assasination is way way to risky for the reasons I mentioned above

[Oct 23, 2016] Rigged Elections Are An American Tradition

Notable quotes:
"... It is an obvious fact that the oligarchic One Percent have anointed Hillary, despite her myriad problems to be President of the US. There are reports that her staff are already moving into their White House offices. This much confidence before the vote does suggest that the skids have been greased. ..."
"... Stolen elections are the American tradition. Elections are stolen at every level-state, local, and federal. Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley's theft of the Chicago and, thereby, Illinois vote for John F. Kennedy is legendary. The Republican US Supreme Court's theft of the 2000 presidential election from Al Gore by preventing the Florida vote recount is another legendary example. The discrepancies between exit polls and the vote count of the secretly programmed electronic voting machines that have no paper trails are also legendary. ..."
"... The presstitutes have gone all out to demonize both Trump and any mention of election rigging, because they know for a fact that the election will be stolen and that they will have the job of covering up the theft. ..."
"... Don't believe the polls that say Hillary won the Q&A sessions or the polls that say Hillary is ahead in the election. Pollsters work for political organizations. If pollsters produce unwelcome results, they don't have any customers. The desired results are that Hillary wins. The purpose of the rigged polls showing her to be ahead is to discourage Trump supporters from voting. ..."
"... Don't vote early. The purpose of early voting is to show the One Percent how the vote is shaping up. From this information, the oligarchs learn how to program the electronic machines in order to elect the candidate that they want. ..."
Oct 23, 2016 | www.unz.com

Paul Craig Roberts • October 21, 2016

Do Americans have a memory? I sometimes wonder.

It is an obvious fact that the oligarchic One Percent have anointed Hillary, despite her myriad problems to be President of the US. There are reports that her staff are already moving into their White House offices. This much confidence before the vote does suggest that the skids have been greased.

The current cause celebre against Trump is his conditional statement that he might not accept the election results if they appear to have been rigged. The presstitutes immediately jumped on him for "discrediting American democracy" and for "breaking American tradition of accepting the people's will."

What nonsense! Stolen elections are the American tradition. Elections are stolen at every level-state, local, and federal. Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley's theft of the Chicago and, thereby, Illinois vote for John F. Kennedy is legendary. The Republican US Supreme Court's theft of the 2000 presidential election from Al Gore by preventing the Florida vote recount is another legendary example. The discrepancies between exit polls and the vote count of the secretly programmed electronic voting machines that have no paper trails are also legendary.

So what's the big deal about Trump's suspicion of election rigging?

The black civil rights movement has fought vote rigging for decades. The rigging takes place in a number of ways. Blacks simply can't get registered to vote. If they do get registered, there are few polling places in their districts. And so on. After decades of struggle it is impossible that there are any blacks who are not aware of how hard it can be for them to vote. Yet, I heard on the presstitute radio network, NPR, Hillary's Uncle Toms saying how awful it was that Trump had cast aspersion on the credibility of American election results.

I also heard a NPR announcer suggest that Russia had not only hacked Hillary's emails, but also had altered them in order to make incriminating documents out of harmless emails.

The presstitutes have gone all out to demonize both Trump and any mention of election rigging, because they know for a fact that the election will be stolen and that they will have the job of covering up the theft.

Don't believe the polls that say Hillary won the Q&A sessions or the polls that say Hillary is ahead in the election. Pollsters work for political organizations. If pollsters produce unwelcome results, they don't have any customers. The desired results are that Hillary wins. The purpose of the rigged polls showing her to be ahead is to discourage Trump supporters from voting.

Don't vote early. The purpose of early voting is to show the One Percent how the vote is shaping up. From this information, the oligarchs learn how to program the electronic machines in order to elect the candidate that they want.

[Oct 22, 2016] The only way Hillary could be stopped would be if the Republican Party elite stood with Trump, so Soros and the other donor who owns voting machines could be blocked from flipping/fractionalizing votes.

Oct 22, 2016 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

The only way Hillary could be stopped would be if the Republican Party elite stood with Trump, so Soros and the other donor who owns voting machines could be blocked from flipping/fractionalizing votes. But that isn't happening. Soros machines are in key swing states like Colorado and Pennsylvania, and we already have data from the primary that a good 15% (at least) can be flipped, compared to exit polls/hand counts/paper trail or non-donor machines.

I guess it's still possible, like what happened in the Michigan Democratic primary, that the real numbers are more like a 10% lead for Trump and they come out in force in unexpected locations, and Clinton's small, unenthusiastic base stays home, thus making it too difficult to successfully flip. But I'm trying not to count on something like that, because it seems too close optomism bias driven "poll unskewing" – I mean, the polls clearly ARE skewed in favor of Hillary, but I doubt they're off by 15%.

Stein could never take over the Democratic Party. It isn't even clear to me that the Greens could replace the Democrats, although I do think their massive increase in ballot access this year is a credit to the party and to Stein. That shows real organizing and management effectiveness.

I started this campaign season advocating for purging Clintonians out of the now hollow Democratic Party and taking it over. That still seems like the most efficient path to an actual left national party, in part because our current system is so corrupted and calcified. But I'm not sure it's possible. At this point, I can imagine a cataclysmic revolution happening during Clinton's term more easily than a reformed, citizen friendly Democratic Party.

Is it gin o'clock yet?

[Oct 22, 2016] Obama and Holder to lead post-Trump redistricting campaign

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dcblogger October 21, 2016 at 2:18 pm

""Obama, Holder to lead post-Trump redistricting campaign" [Politico]. "The new group, called the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, was developed in close consultation with the White House. President Barack Obama himself has now identified the group - which will coordinate campaign strategy, direct fundraising, organize ballot initiatives and put together legal challenges to state redistricting maps "

I have a very bad feeling about this.

Pat October 21, 2016 at 2:29 pm

It made my blood run cold.

I notice that they have the resources for that, but not for registering people to vote. Funny about that

jrs October 21, 2016 at 2:36 pm

why isn't it just what Republicans have already done? They are a push back against obvious Republican gerrymandering.

Katharine October 21, 2016 at 3:16 pm

Gerrymandering is not always Republican in origin. Maryland is a disgrace produced by Democrats.

jash October 21, 2016 at 3:24 pm

Why are districts needed at this time?
Do they stilll need to travel by horse back to hob-knob?

It seems clear that only about 5%(too high) are really setting the rules in the state/district.

Given the ease of communications , let each state be wide open – elect from a list state wide.

Lambert Strether Post author October 22, 2016 at 2:23 am

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.2 The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

hunkerdown October 21, 2016 at 4:09 pm

That the parties are even allowed anywhere near district-drawing processes is a sign that the system is a sham designed to preserve them against us. How much more evidence do people need to be hit over the head with that they're complicit in enforcing frauds and that's not okay?

Pavel October 21, 2016 at 2:54 pm

Obama and Holder, fresh off their various triumphs - closing Gitmo, prosecuting the Bush-era torturers, and sending top-level banksters to jail - just the team to sort this out. Not.

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