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Election fraud and irregularities in 2020 Presidential elections

 

"We setup the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization
 in the history of American politics" - Joe Biden

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I think that it would fair to conclude that anybody actually willing to look at what has been revealed by this election will have to agree that this election was stolen, rigged, falsified -- chose your expression -- and that going to the courts to challenge this obscene miscarriage of the democratic process is a fundamental civil right and something which any democrat (small “d”) should support.

Trump’s Last Hurrah, by The Saker


Introduction

2020 will be remembered in history as the year when the USA election system was exposed as being on par with so called banana republics.

And the question about legitimacy of 2020 elections exists independent of one's political position. It is true, that Trump was a dismal candidate. First of all he proved to be incompetent for such a high position. He probably was OK as a head of his building and real-estate empire but it was his ceiling. Secondly,  people who voted for Trump in 2016 bought "a cat in a bag": he proved to be a "national neoliberal" not nationalist with anti-liberalism agenda as he pretended during the election campaign of 2016 and which attracted many blue-color and some middle class voters. And four years in office revealed that he has many warts. His subservience to Israel is one: Trump is probably the most pro-Israel presidents in the US history surpassing LBJ and turning MAGA into MIGA. See the following comment that reflect the feeling of a former Trump supporter:

Add to this his impulsivity and incompetence, tendency to bully instead of negotiations, jingoism and subservience to military-industrial complex. I can continue. In short Trump governed as a regular Republican president (Bush III) and completely betrayed his working class voters and in this sense he (Like Bush II)  deserved to be impeached (although not for the fake articles of impeachment produced by neoliberal Dems during Ukrainegate):

John Gruskos , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:31 am GMT • 15.6 hours ago

Trump would have won despite the hostility of the media and big tech, and despite electoral corruption in Democrat-controlled big cities, if he had spent the previous 4 years making a good faith effort to implement the policies he ran on in 2016.

He ran as a populist, yet ruled as a plutocrat.

Candidate Trump promised a non-interventionist foreign policy. President Trump dug us deeper into the Middle East quagmire, intensifying hostilities against Russia, Syria, Yemen and Iran while being cartoonishly subservient to Israel.

The troops didn't come home.

He ran on an immigration platform written by Jeff Sessions. As president he prioritized the immigration policies of Sheldon Adelson and Jared Kushner – calling for "more immigration than ever before" in his State of the Union address, and lecturing his dumbfounded rally-goers on the need for increased immigration because "my friends in the business world say we need it".

A tight labor market and rising real wages remained in the world of might-have-been.

Candidate Trump promised to drain the swamp. President Trump pardoned a menagerie of grotesque swamp creatures.

Candidate Trump promised to close the carried interest loophole and make Wall Street pay its fair share. President Trump gave massive tax cuts to the very media moguls and tech oligarchs who would subsequently doom his 2020 campaign.

The most passionate supporters of candidate Trump were stabbed in the back by President Trump – Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon, Ann Coulter, the Dissident Right, etc. in a pattern that has continued to the bitter end with his denunciations of the Capitol Hill protesters and scapegoating of Rudy Giuliani. At the same time, a whole series of Never-Trump personalities were promoted within the Trump White House (Rod Rosenstein, Anthony "the Mooch" Scaramucci, John Bolton, etc.).

Trump's most intelligent and active supporters were utterly demoralized, while his enemies were given ample opportunity for sabotage and espionage.

Candidate Trump promised law and order. President Trump did absolutely nothing while his supporters were terrorized by Antifa and BLM.

Thousands of Antifa terrorists and BLM rioters broke federal laws. Why weren't they arrested, charged, indicted and tried?

President Trump didn't support $2,000 stimulus checks until after the election.

He didn't lift a finger against electoral corruption in Democrat-controlled big cities, or big tech censorship, until after the election.

Without all these own-goals, the score wouldn't have even been close, and the biased referees wouldn't have mattered.

But there is a proper way to remove him from office, if this is what the US electorate wants. A color revolution, or any other form of a coup d'état run by intelligence agencies, is an odious way to get rid of him.

If we talk about Biden then the only good thing about his is that we do not know how he will behave in the office and that he will try to oppose some extreme Trump imposed on the USA. But there are some signs that he might well be equal or worse than Trump. First of all he has obvious health problems. Historically Biden was a credit card companies stooge, stanch neoliberal and warmonger, who greatly contributed to dismantling go the New Deal and lowering of the standard of living for working American and redistribution of wealth to financial oligarchy. Due to his active support of Iraq war, by Nuremberg trial standards Biden can be classified as a war criminal and should be, at least, prohibited from running for any public office.  His cabinet, especially in the area of foreign poly would make Bush II proud. while he did not manage to get Cheney into his cabinet, he got his protégé -- Victoria Nuland. That appointment  alone buries any changes of a more reasonable foreign policy. the list of neocons in his cabinet is  essentially all you need to know about this neoliberal swamp marionette.  He does not have much of the physical and intellectual capacity required for the position. He is way too frail. Compare him with Kennedy or Nixon and you instantly see the difference. In no way he will dare to dissent from domestic neoliberal policies and neocon "Full Spectrum Dominance" policy abroad; And neither Trump nor Biden has courage  to challenge power of MIC and, especially, intelligence agencies (which are a part of MIC linking MIC and Wall Street) which is the essence of the national security state, as well as enforcement arm of the Wall Street which is another sacred cow of the ruling neoliberal oligarchy. The wing of Dems who supported Biden is essentially a second war party.

So, this is not about Biden vs. Trump (two marionette who in reality do not deserve much of our attention; only forces behind them do; listen to Krystal Ball- GOP's Working Class Makeover Is A FAKE Branding Exercise - YouTube).  And is not so much about the validity of the net result (as in who won the elections that features two dismal candidates). It is about the validly of the process.

The validity of the process determines the level of the legitimacy of incoming administration. While this elections cycle degraded to an artificial choice of two dismal neoliberal candidates  the legitimacy of the government is question bigger that the question of who is elected.  Currently the impression is that two gangs of billionaires who financed the election campaign chose two stooges and one of the gangs managed to play more dirty and win the elections. 

It is also important from the point of view of non-violent means of ending the regime of "internal colonialization" introduced by neoliberalism since 1980. and this process was supported by all previous neoliberal Presidents such as Bush  I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama.  See

So the question of integrity of election is mostly important the candidate of which party en the elections (both Republicans and neolib Dems  represents two wings of the same alliance of MIC and financial oligarchy with slightly different interests,) but from the point of view of the possibility of ending of the rule of neoliberal oligarchy by non-violent means. Of course, currently getting populist candidate in either party is next to impossible ( both parties are actually two wings of the same UniParty -- the Party of financial oligarchy and MIC. ). But Trump broke the ice and has shown that  such "outlier candidate" can win Presidential elections. And while Trump wasted his victory (or more correctly quickly co-opted by the swamp), the other candidate might not.

The integrity of election is the key factor that provides political stability of the country

The next issue is the question whether the election fraud is systemic or not. In other words the question of the integrity of the elections.  Of course, election fraud is as American as apple pie and has a long and colorful history. As Danny Sjursen noted ( ELECTION 2020- What President Biden Won’t Touch – Consortiumnews )

"In this mystifying moment, the post-electoral sentiments of most Americans can be summed up either as “Ding dong! The witch is dead!” or “We got robbed!” Both are problematic, not because the two candidates were intellectually indistinguishable or ethically equivalent, but because each jingle is laden with a dubious assumption: that President Donald Trump’s demise would provide either decisive deliverance or prove an utter disaster."

But the level of integrity of election is the key factor that provides political stability of the country:  until 2020 it made the  neoliberal elite legitimate rulers of the country, even if voters have no real chance of meaningful  choice between one of two pre-vetted by neoliberal oligarchy candidates. Please remember that Biden was installed as Democratic Party candidate by DNC and Sanders, Tulsi and Warren (three candidates which can provide some level of resistance and curtail some aspect of the financial oligarchy dominance)  were pushed under the bus; that tells you something about hidden Presidential election mechanisms in action.

Like Bolsheviks in the past, Neoliberals (neoliberalism is essentially "Trotskyism for the rich" with the slogan  "financial oligarchy of all countries unite") value the safety of the political system as a whole  lower than the need to drive out a particular politician in order to return to power. As such, they are strongly tempted not to play by the old rules. In doing so, they inevitably destroy what this system needs – trust.  Clinton behaviour after Trump election and Russiagate are two sides of the same coin.

It used to be an unwritten rules for the American domestic policy to adhere to the principles: “We respect the principles of free speech, even if they turn against us. We play by the rules, even if we don’t win.”  John McCain – a neocon whom it is difficult to describe as virtuous or wise – was a bearer of this old culture and emphasized that Obama (with whom he competed in the 2008 election and lost) is a “decent man.”

So unless the question of integrity and transparency of the elections resolved, no "elected" candidate can't be classified as legitimate and political situation in the USA can became unstable. This is a huge risk, far more than whether Biden of Trump will be our next president (they differ much less then one can  assume and recruit people to the key position from the same think tanks, Wall Street firms and MIC).

In this case the US government becomes a variation of the theme of well known for the history. A reincarnation of  Latin-American junta.  That's why both Trump haters or Trump lovers should be concerned about the integrity of our voting systems. This is not a political party issue.

Both Trump haters or Trump lovers should be concerned about the integrity of the USA voting systems. This is not a political party issue.

Please also do not forget that Dems are the party that gaslighted the country for four years with Russiagate. That means that the working hypothesis should be that Elections2020 was yet  another, final stage of the color revolution against Trump, after Russiagate and Ukrainegate failed to remove him from the office.

Judging from Dems behavior during RussiaGate it is plausible that they at least distorted the actual results.  If they can gaslight the whole nation for four  years, it is really trivial for them to inject tens thousand votes into the count in key battleground states. They have money, methods and motivation and in most battleground  states they iether control the executive branch, or the key position of the Secretary of State.  Their entire history is about rigging the votes: they have been doing it since the 1790s. For example, Sidney Powell's lawsuit against Georgia states ( Just The News)

At least 96,600 absentee ballots were requested and counted but were never recorded as being returned to county election boards by the voter. "Thus, at a minimum, 96,600 votes must be disregarded," the suit said. 

Also the Thomas More Society's Amistad Project filed another lawsuit which disputes over 100K votes cast in Georgia:

The Thomas More Society's Amistad Project announced its latest battleground state litigation, claiming government data indicates that "well over 100,000 illegal votes [in Georgia] were improperly counted, while tens of thousands of legal votes were not counted."

Please do not forget that Dems are the party that gaslighted the country for four years with Russiagate. That means that the working hypothesis should be that Elections2020 was yet another, final stage of the color revolution against Trump, after Russiagate and Ukrainegate stages, while damaging Trump, failed to remove him from the office.

The outsize role of mail-in  ballots in 2020 Presidential elections

The 2020 election was the first election which was done mainly via so called "mail-in" ballots. and historically mail-in ballots are the source of classic vote fraud. Always were and always will be. They were among the key issues raised 15 years ago by the bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform (known informally as the Carter-Baker Commission) that sound eerily familiar in 2020:

Kay C. James, Carter-Baker Commission member (currently the president of the Heritage Foundation) noted that had Congress and state governments adopted the panel's recommendations, the 2020 postelection mess might have been avoided. The panel stated that absentee and mail-in ballots are the "largest source of potential voter fraud." It suggested the practice of allowing "candidates or party workers to pick up and deliver absentee ballots should be eliminated" entirely.

The commission concluded that states should better track registered voters who move, and election observers should have "unrestricted access" to monitor the system. Voting machines should be checked regularly for accuracy, and reporters should wait to "project" winners until all polls have closed.

Lastly, vote fraud should be prosecuted aggressively. Which is clearly not the case.

Carter-Baker Commission concluded that states should better track registered voters who move, and election observers should have "unrestricted access" to monitor the system. Voting machines should be checked regularly for accuracy, and reporters should wait to "project" winners until all polls have closed. The panel called on states to increase voter ID requirements and be leery of mail-in voting.

Dems exploited COVID-19 epidemics to their advantage and managed to weaken regular protection against ballots harvesting and staffing of mail-in ballots in many states. Ballot harvesting from narcoaddicts, homeless people, illiterate people, completely ignorant people, people demented in some way, etc  pose several  questions:

  1. Is universal voting rights really a right? Is not it a privilege?
  2. If a person can't understand the political situation in the country,  or does not want to understand the situation, why his/her votes should matter? Does recent attempt to increase voter participation masks some nefarious motives on the part of Dem party operatives. Is not attempt to increase voter participation for this category of voters represent a hidden form of ballot staffing with a hypocritical cover up?  For example Stacey Abrams efforts in Georgia (in 2016 Georgia implemented automatic voter registration) clearly are on the edge of voter fraud, or at least in the grey zone. 
    • Abrams and many others blamed her loss on Kemp’s purge of 1.4 million registered voters in his role as Georgia’s secretary of state, which many called a conflict of interest that should have seen him recuse himself from that role amid the election. National Democrats rallied to Abrams’ cause.

      After her defeat, Abrams formed the organization Fair Fight last year to push her policy priorities, and supporters credit her with contributing to an 800,000-person increase in registered voters in Georgia since 2016.

  3. What should be the minimal level of competency below which a person should not be allowed to vote? Should not we introduce some "citizenship exam" like the USA administer to those who want to obtain the US citizenship.  Because below this basic level he/she is not a citizen but a puppet of external forces. He/she does not posses any "free will" in a political domain.  The famous Marxist maxim "illiterate person stands outside of politics" can be expanded to several other situation. Narcoaddicts generally also stand outside of politics too.

  4. Why people should allow oligarchs like Zuckerberg and Bloomberg to spec hundred of millions dollars on elections? Should not this a form of election fraud, and is so  they probably should be jailed for this attempt to interfere with election? 

    • Facebook magnate Mark Zuckerberg and his wife gave a nonprofit $400 million to pay election workers, train poll workers and rent polling locations for the Nov. 3 vote in various states.

      The Zuckerbergs’ largesse is an unprecedented private expenditure on a process long held to be an exclusively public operation and has spurred at least nine lawsuits challenging the effort by the Center for Tech and Civil Life.
       

    • Mike Bloomberg takes big losses after spending over $100 million in Florida, Ohio and Texas. ...Billionaire and former presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg’s more than $100 million investment into three key states fell flat as President Donald Trump appears to have captured all of them.

History of election fraud in the USA

The USA has a very long and rich history of vote fraud. Tammany Hall is 150 years old. Republicans stole the 1876 presidential election, Democrats most probably stole the 1960 elections. Local elections are even more putrid – Ron Paul had a funny story about winning, then “losing” an election.  There were many interesting and educational stories in this domain (Vox Popoli- Mailvox- an analysis of the Powell filing in GA):

Unknown, November 26, 2020 1:32 PM

The fact is this: manipulating elections is a time-honored American tradition! Hanging chads & allegations of fraud in Ohio. Hussein may have used this system in his elections.

The fix was in for HRC but failed because Trump support was stronger than expected.

Daley fixed Cook Co. for JFK in 1960. Hell, Tilden said Hayes cheated him in the 1876 election! Election fraud has a long history.

While Republicans are far from being squeaky clean (remember Bush's "Turd Blossom" -- Karl Rove, who was a master of dirty election tricks ), historically Democrats were always the party of political machines -- Tammany, Pendergast, Cook County.  The favorite method for Dems is staffing of the ballot box, while republicans more rely of voter suppression mechanisms.

As the result, in so called the Solid South the entire section of the country which is larger than the Confederacy, voted Democrat for the better part of a century. See for example,   History of election fraud in the USA

Evidence of fraud in 2020 elections

There is plenty of evidence, both circumstantial and direct that 2020 elections were manipulated, which can be broken down into six basic categories (6 Factors Which Point to a Rigged Election – OffGuardian)

  1. Precedent – It has happened before.

  2. Motive – Deep State/Military dislike of Trump’s policies is widely known.

  3. Foreknowledge – Establishment voices predicted this exact situation and conduction games on how to deal with it

  4. Opportunity – The voting system is highly susceptible to fraud. Especially with  main-in ballots option (mail-in ballots are to a certain extent equivalent to vote fraud, as they represent a perfect instrument to abuse.) How otherwise can Biden get most votes in the history of the U.S.? Semi-senile Biden??  Have you heard how Biden speaks? He has difficulties even with teleprompter. Let me quote Dmitry Orlov: “… Biden is as fit to lead as a pig is kosher after rubbing its side against a corner of a synagogue.” In no way borderline senile Biden appeals to the committed Sanders base.

  5. Voting Irregularities – Known software “glitches” & irregularities in the reporting of the results, strange midnight injections of mail-in ballots; strange pause in counting votes in battleground states, blocking observers, etc.

    Everyone should look at this forensic analysis of the big ballot dumps in Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia in the wee hours of Nov. 4. The chances of getting these one-sided dumps in legitimate elections are less than 0.001, on several metrics. All three state results could and should be overturned on this one finding.

    Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020 https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

     

  6. Cover-up  

    • PA Data Scientist- I Saw USB Cards Being Uploaded to Voting Machines

      I personally observed USB cards being uploaded to voting machines by the voting machine warehouse supervisor on multiple occasions.

      ...So I personally witnessed that happen over 24 times. We have multiple other witnesses who saw it, including Democrat poll watchers.

      Stenstrom said he had been told by U.S. Attorney William McSwain such conduct with USBs and voting machines is unusual.

      As of today, 47 USB cards are missing, and they are nowhere to be found,” added Stenstrom. “I was told personally that these 24 to 30 cards that were uploaded weren’t there.”

       

    • Early calls of MSM for Biden and the upper dishonesty in the reporting of the situation after the elections both in MSM. Strange and inconsistent, if not outright funny behaviour of  Dem party executives in battleground states (yesterday Russia easily had stolen the USA lection; now election somehow can't be stolen and anybody who suggest that is a "conspiracy theorist").  What bothers and shocks me, is how the MSM just plays "see no evil - hear not evil - speak no evil” with its reporting. It’s like watching  the version 2 of Operation Mockingbird in action.
Based of Russiagate gaslighting alone we can assume that pro-Obama pro-globalist factions within the intelligence agencies in the USA and FB are really ready to interfere in the USA elections, have money, methods and motive to do so.

Heuristic metrics also point in the direction of fraud (see also 5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms for some different metrics):

  1. The standard for any legitimate elections is the 'The absence of the "Appearance of Impropriety".' That standard has been violated.  Republicans won all 27 “contested” House seats but somehow Biden won the presidency race? The last election where that happened with even 10 seats was the election of 1960.
  2. Sanders was derailed in Dem Primaries under similar very suspicious circumstances. Somewhat similar with 2020 Elections: a candidate with strong following who previously led by a wide margin  lost to the candidate with health problems and without any attractive platform ("kick the can down the road" platform)
  3. Why we did not get an answer as to why every swing state stopped counting at the same time on election night? From Powell lawsuit we now know in that on election night that ballot counting in Fulton County, GA had suddenly come to a screeching halt due to a burst pipe in the Atlanta Hawks State Farm Arena. Which allow several person to work on computers unsupervised till 1PM. Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a "burst pipe" at Atlanta's State Farm Arena that was blamed for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night.
  4. Over-voting in some counties: the number  of votes cast exceeds the number of voters. More returned mail-in ballots that were sent. Facts in PA when mail-in ballots were return in one day or event he same day.  95% registered voter turnout in Philadelphia. This is close to 100% registered votes participation,  typical for the USSR.
  5. Multiple statistical anomalies
  6. What did the senior Dominion executive meant when he said, “don’t worry, Trump will never ******* win, I made sure of it” Just wondering if he was another Peter Strzok who created "insurance" against the victory of undesirable candidate. Was Mr. Coomer granted illegal access to the Dominion machines in Georgia to do a last minute "software update".  
  7. Democrats who screamed “Russia interference” for four years ago with no evidence, suddenly all and at once became firm believer is the absence of fraud and/or foreign of domestic intelligence agencies interference via electronic voting machines which was in place in the US elections. This is breathtaking hypocrisy. In fact personal who was trained and get admin access to those machines are perfect Trojan house capable of subverting any elections. To say nothing about possible intelligence services manipulation of transmission of vote counts to the central server (which according to some rumors was on Amazon cloud in Frankfurt, Germany). A set of shady companies that effectively conducted the US elections instantly raises questions about intelligence agencies interference. 
  8. Sign of evidence of the destruction of documents about electronic machines and evidence which can be used by opposing side. Which can be used to verify ballots, audit logs that can reveal cases of nullification of undesirable votes (deleting or changing unprocessed ballots which can be artificially failed by the scanner by lowing its sensitivity) by administrators of voting machines, facts of mail-in ballots fraud. If it is true that the identifying inner envelopes were thrown away in Georgia,  that makes recounts of mail-in ballots a waste of time.

    Dominion suddenly decided to move its headquarters and this fact alone suggests that shredding of documents is already in place. It is  impossible to ignore although MSM continues to gaslight us.
     

  9. Documented facts of the lack of signatures to match on mail-in ballots and existence of batches of ballots with only one (presidential) candidate selected. 
  10. Complete absence of statistical analysis of a representative samples of mail-in ballots envelopes for various "red flags" and obtain estimate of percentage of "stolen" votes.  By law envelopes  for mail-in ballots should be stored for several years. Statistic sample can give are estimates about how many dead votes how many people who moved out of state votes and other valuable statistics.  
  11. Legislative maneuvers to weaken the protection against mail-in fraud. Well financed campaign by DNC lawyers such as Marc Elias to change state elections law to allow mail-in ballots. See for example  Nevada mail-in voting law previews looming 2020 legal battles over ballots
  12. According to some testimonies Dominion voting machines, at least on Georgia,  were all the time connected to Internet and  can be controlled remotely.

While for each of those heuristic red flag you can find a plausible "benign" explanation, the fact that they exist simultaneously increases probability the   election was stolen.

For example, the 2020 election in PA has way too much irregularities to access the results at face value: Pennsylvania State Legislature Holds Public Hearing on 2020 Election - YouTube.

One of the most informative segments I have seen on the election issues is  Sidney Powell Lawsuits Reaction & Kraken Analysis, New Exhibits & Filings, Election Fraud Leftovers - YouTube I highly recommend to listen to it if you interested in the weight of accusations against lection officials.  

Jackie Porter 18 hours ago

I do not understand how in the face of this many irregularities across this many states, that Biden could become the President. How do you swear under oath to uphold the Constitution after shredding it to be elected? How does the party consumed with claims of election interference for 4 years, suddenly have zero interest in investigating election interference? Like everything else, it's ok when they do it, nothing to see here.

There are some recent criminal prosecution of  election fraud (Election Fraud In America) so this type of criminal behaviour is not than unusual:

In Texas, Attorney General Ken Paxton announced the arrest of four people, including a county commissioner, for illegal vote harvesting on Sept. 24. The elected official charged in the scheme won his primary election by five votes in 2018 after his opponent held a 19% lead on election night.

The indictments total 123 felony charges for various corrupt election practices. The net result was someone won a race for an important local office—by cheating.

In Pennsylvania the election judge recently was jailed for staffing votes for the candidate who paid him money.

In fact there were 1,298 proven instances of voter fraud with 1,121 criminal convictions Voter Fraud Map- Election Fraud Database - The Heritage Foundation

What types of election fraud we observe and should concentrate on

2020 election exposé a dirty underlining of the US election system. It is not a pretty picture. And in some respect it is far worse that in countries which are usually called banana republic.

Did the criminal action which undeniably occurred affect the outcome of the election? That is a logical question, the answer of which remains unknown. If the answer is "yes," then the "election was stolen." If no, then it wasn't "stolen,"  but still this is a criminal action.  See also

  1. Ballot harvesting -- this is done under noble slogan of "promotions of democracy" and  empowering minorities. But both are as fake as the USA promotion of democracy in foreign countries. Mass usages of mail-in votes, strong efforts of Democratic operatives in weakening of (almost non existent) layers of mail-in ballots security (signature verification individual request for ballots with the proof of residency, delivery to counting centers before 8PM on a voting day, etc)  was a policy supported by Democratic party and pushed exclusively by DNC lawyers, including notorious DNC operative Mark Ellis.  The question is why ? 
  2. Difficulties with observing processing the mail-in ballots and counting created artificially for Republican observers in major metropolitan centers were such fraud historically concentrates. The absence of party observers in processing of mail-in ballots in PA iv very troubling and is enough to invalidate election results,  because this is the area where "low tech" fraud concentrates.   The way these Republican observer were  treated in PA was outright criminal and delegitimizes the elections in this state.
     
  3. Voting Machines Fraud -- the key question is: Why voting machine which inherently are hackable and insecure were used at all ?  Who bought them and from where the money come from?  Was it regular political corruption or something more sinister? In any case it opened the door for the intelligence agencies to participate in the USA Presidential elections.
  4. Suppression of statistical analysis of mail-in ballots fraud. Why no statistical analysis of large, representative samples on envelopes was not conducted for critical states. They will give us an estimated how many dead voters votes and how many out of state voter voted among other things.  This will allow establish margins of error for mail-in ballots and provide some certainty as for were mail-in ballots were the fact of Biden victory or not.

    I do not understand why statistic sampling of address envelopes was not done in key states, especially in Georgia and Pennsylvania, where there are signs of "other irregularities." This will allow to establish the margin of error for mail-in ballots and this is important for Trump. Percentage of dead people voting and out of state people voting can be easily established is the sample is representative and large enough. And this does not cost much Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger can't be missing this so he acts as an enemy of honest and transparent elections.
     
  5. Analysis of over-voting. Overvoting, especially overvoting with mail-in ballots (which according to Giuliani happened in mass scale in PA)  usually suggests the fraud is institutional -- there are bad apples inside. Why cases of over-voting were not analyzed. Why this compulsive desire to swipe the dirt under the carpet and move on.
     
  6. Violations of Benford's law -- generally with  the exception of small precepts election results should follow Benford's law.
    Cases were it is not should be carefully investigated. that was not done. This  constitute obvious red flag.
     
  7. Absence of publicly viewable  24 x7 video surveillance of places where votes are counted strongly suggest on existence of election fraud. Assess to rooms were votes were counted in certain cases, based on available video , extremely lax.  Possibility of voter counter to bring in fraudulent mail-in ballots and/or to the that same batch again and again in tabulator were high. Electronic surveillance is strong deterrent against unlawful action of corrupt voting clerks (for example discarding of votes and running the same batch of votes via tabulator multiple times). While not panacea they help to prevent or at least make it more difficult partisan hacks doing their  dirty job.  Chain of custody of ballot should be well defined line for evidence in any criminal trial. Also no actions on ballots, including transportation, should be permitted in the absence of observers from both parties and mail ballots should generally limited to such number as not to effect the result of election, even if this mean disenfranchising of some voters.
     
  8. Attempts to concentrate vote counting in some central locations
     
  9. Attempts to block party observers from observing votes counting, especially processing of mail-in votes, where most fraud concentrates.

There is no alternative to paper ballots and hand counting under video surveillance
 directly at voting places after their closing with the certification of results by observers from both parties

What events of 2020 demonstrates that there is no any viable alternative to paper ballots and hand counting (probably assisted by simplest, banknote counting type tabulators).  Also ballots themselves should be produced like banknotes (and using all appropriate technologies) with several layers of protection to prevent duplications.  In this sense Tulsi was a visionary because she warned about exactly about those types of fraud that we observe in 2020 election and proposed universal return to paper ballots. Natually she never found any support in the US Congress. Both parties are interested in maintaining the status quo. The fraudulent status quo. 

Paper ballot should be produced like banknotes with built-in security mechanisms like watermarks, so that they can't be replicated using copying machines. This is especially important for mail-in votes (which generally should be prohibited without strong proof of their need from the voter and limited to people with at least three years IRS returns in the particular state).

Democrat party lawyers maneuvers before the election under the umbrella of caring for minority voters is pure hypocrisy. Dems are the party of Wall Street, and in no way they represent minority voters.

24 x 7 video surveillance with public access to tapes via special web sites is 101 of any election transparency and it is unclear why such simple measures were never implemented in the USA. Those stories about unmarked vans delivering mail-in ballots in the middle of the night are really characterize the USA as a country with voting system worse that in so called  banana republic.

Further delegitimization of neoliberal oligarchy rule

One of the major domestic achievements of Trump administration is the expose of evilness and the lack of legitimacy of neoliberal oligarchy (Washington swamp, deep state, etc) rule. In this sense Russiagate is more important story then 2020 Presidential election, because in this case national security state really run amok,

The many allegations of fraud in the 2020 election may be the subject of controversy, litigation, and even civil unrest for possibly years to come.

As Republicans so often do, Sidney Powell has damaged her credibility by alleging that the Venezuelan government and assorted communists played a role in orchestrating vote fraud, a red herring on a par with Democratic Party claims of Russian interference in the 2016 election. If the CIA and/or NSA did in fact use cyber-warfare techniques to manipulate the outcome, they most certainly did not do so at the behest of Hugo Chavez. And if they did tamper with the vote totals, they will have ample opportunity to wipe the evidence.

But many legitimate question remain.

Known Red Flags

Here are several red flags that observers are highlighted with the regard of 2020 elections:

The evidence

The evidence which make more plausible the election "was stolen" and that there were a widespread fraud is growing. Here Is The Evidence You can watch the recent Ron Paul Liberty report where Daniel McAdam (an actual elections observer) listed a list of red flags. Summary of his findings:

  1. Every state that has had a delay has seen Biden has overtaken trump AFTER the delays were announced - Red flag
  2. Florida counted 10.5M votes in less than 24 hours, Georgia couldn't count 4.8M in 48 hours, why? - Red Flag
  3. In PA, the courts have barred all accredited observers from observing the vote - Red Flag
  4. In Detroit, the ballot counting centers barred windows and expelled observers, why? - Red Flag
  5. David Lim (Obama's former speech writer) sent a tweet out on Nov 4 (AFTER the election) asking for volunteers in Georgia to help people fix their mail in ballots so that they count, why? - Red Flag
  6. Participation in one PA county reached 90% turn out, beating the prior record that had stood for more than 100 years and almost 30% higher than the last election in 2016. Other PA counties saw voter numbers exceed 100% of registered voters compared to the last election, even accounting for same day registration this is statistically improbable- Red Flag

If you put in the effort to investigate this issue with an open mind you will find more evidence of suspicious activity during this election (First Thoughts on the Election, by Kevin MacDonald - The Unz Review)

The folks who firmly believe that Putin rigged the 2016 election and studiously ignore how supposedly neutral platforms like Google, Twitter, and Facebook have tilted their coverage in favor of the Democrats, now would have us believe that Democrats would not do anything to cheat. Given the long history of corruption in Chicago politics, it wouldn’t be at all surprising if Chicago Mayor Richard Daley swung the 1960 election to JFK. So it seems reasonably to suppose such things could happen in 2020 Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. And there’s no question that at least some of the people in charge are activists for the Dems. Jocelyn Benson, Michigan Secretary of State in charge of elections, was a board member of the SPLC. Unprincipled pursuit of power is utterly characteristic of the Democrats and their media allies in recent years, and it would not be at all surprising to learn that there was a Plan B already decided on before the election.

Electronic voting machines do not have a paper trail, so in those cases the verification if voter fraud occurred is very difficult, if possible a all (Flashback- Philadelphia Judge Admitted Stuffing Ballots for Cash.) The USA does not allow foreign observers to verify the absence of irregularities during the voting.

Dominion  uses a very sinister looking scheme in which they put on the ballot special code (QR code) which might not corresponds to the voter intention but it is the code which is tabulated. As such Dominion machines has zero integrity and transparency.  Any IT specialist will tell you that QR code can be programmed in such a way that decoding of it would reveal that voter had chosen this is that candidate, but processing will be in favor of opposing candidate. Kind of steganography. This is a completely "black box" mechanism with zero integrity and transparency.

Also auditing the code of voting machines probably can't be accomplished during the timeframe allowed. 

Some suggestions

Increase the role of observers to the role of jury in criminal trials.

Observers should enter the verdict legitimate/illegitimate at the and of voters countering with 66% of observers voting for need to recognize the elections as legitimate. That will cut the instances where observers were blocked formt he counting f bulletin process.

Install 24 x 7 videosurvellance of counting of votes with cameras directly over the tables and release those tapes to public via special websites.

This is a no brainier but video surveillance matter only if there are no electronic voting machines or tabulators on the floor.

Counting of votes is public service and there should no secrecy in it. And it limits possibility of certain types of fraud, for example, discarding valid bulletins or "curing" invalid. Ensure transparency of ballot counting. All counting should be videotaped. Observers from both parties should be present.

Discard electronic voting machines and tabulators

Technology now is so sophisticated that scanning paper ballots is not a problem and it ensure abuses like "click-click-click" fraud when a corrupt election official goes to the booth and makes several hundred fraudulent votes via the machine.

Prohibit counting of votes outside of the original location and unless one or better two observers from each party are present

This is another no brainer. Any transportation of bulleting from the place where voting took place is an open invitation to fraud. Also the higher is the centralization of bulleting counting, the larger scale of votes manipulation will go unnoticed.

Install observers in USPS post offices during the day of elections and allow reps of both parties to control shipping of containers with mailed ballots. Prohibit any shipping of ballots after the elections are closed on election day.

No ballot received after the deadline should ever be counted. It should be entered into database as "late". All containers with ballots should be delivered to the counting location the same day. No exceptions.

On arrival to the counting location all mail-in ballots need to be timestamped, numbered and scanned.

Equipment for numbering should be removed the next day, making it easier to block attempts to insert fraudulent batches of votes. No personal bags should be allowed to the space where voting is performed.

Entrance to every counting location should be guarded 24x8 by police and all employers and all cars entering the garage should be checked.

Only authorized cars can enter garage. All employees should be checked so that they can't carry fake bulletins with them.

Prohibit ballot harvesting; improve signature verification mechanisms

Ballots harvesting is an invitation to fraud. Fraudulent ballots usually iether do not have signature at all or forged signatures, or wrong addresses. This avenue of election fraud should be completely and reliably blocked.

End the big money dominance of our electoral process The case, when Facebook implicitly hijacked the US elections should be prohibited.

In a democracy, public elections should be publicly financed. In Maine and Arizona, publicly financed elections have enabled people to run for office who would never have dreamed of running under a system dominated by big money interests. We, as voters, need to own our elections, rather than allow the process to be controlled by the wealthy few.

We also need to enact mandatory limits on campaign spending. In 1976, the Supreme Court wrongly struck down mandatory campaign spending limits for congressional elections. Massachusetts should help lead the way with campaign spending limits for our elections.

Ensure non-partisan election administration

The Secretary of the Commonwealth must be a Secretary for all of us, regardless of party affiliation. The Secretary should not be allowed to serve as a co-chair of campaigns of candidates. To ensure the people's trust in the integrity of our elections, the Secretary must conduct the administration of elections in a non-partisan manner.


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[Feb 10, 2021] ABSOLUTE PROOF

Feb 10, 2021 | ugetube.com

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Here is the site of Matthew DePerno, one the lawyers in the video. He needs financial aid to keep up the Absolute Truth about the fraudulent 2020 election.

https://www.depernolaw.com/

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[Feb 10, 2021] Presidential Election Wasn't 'Rigged'; It Was 'Fortified', Says Time Magazine by JAMES DELINGPOLE

Feb 05, 2021 | www.breitbart.com

Time has published an explainer piece offering a fascinating insight into how the presidential election was won. It's titled "The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 Election."

The fascinating part is what it tells us about the brazenness of the left in general and the corrupt, mendacious MSM in particular: they are now heavy-hinting that they cheated but want you to know that it's all OK because they were doing it to not to destroy democracy but to preserve and enhance it.
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That's why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system's fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.

Do you see what they just did there?

The Democrats (and their sympathisers) didn't rig the election. They just fortified it by taking care to ensure the right guy won rather than the wrong guy won, regardless of what those pesky voters might misguidedly have wanted.

Could this have anything to do, you wonder, with President Trump's upcoming impeachment trial?

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My suspicion that Time's piece is both pre-emptive strike and damage limitation exercise. It anticipates the possibility that Trump will provide evidence in support of his claim that the election was "stolen."

This evidence will be much harder to brush under the carpet in the Senate.

I'm reminded here of an old article from the Times (of London), which described the process whereby political projects are advanced by stealth.

It is at first denied that any radical new plan exists; it is then conceded that it exists but ministers swear blind that it is not even on the political agenda; it is then noted that it might well be on the agenda but is not a serious proposition; it is later conceded that it is a serious proposition but that it will never be implemented; after that it is acknowledge that it will be implemented but in such a diluted form that it will make no difference to the lives of ordinary people; at some point it is finally recognised that it has made such a difference, but it was always known that it would and voters were told so from the outset.

This is where we are headed now with the"'stolen" election. Columnists who blithely assured us that the election was above board may now begin to finesse their position.

"OK, so maybe it was rigged," they will start to concede. 'But isn't that always the case with elections? And anyway it's a done deal now."

Sorry, my bad -- that use of the word "rigged" was a complete slip of the tongue.

What I meant to say is that the presidential election was "fortified." And what's not to like about that, eh?

[Feb 05, 2021] Voting software firm Smartmatic files $2.7 billion suit against Fox, Giuliani Sidney Powell over election-fraud claims

Feb 05, 2021 | www.rt.com

Fox News is facing a rise of the machines, voting machines that is, as election software firm Smartmatic is suing the network, three of its anchors and lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell for allegedly false claims of fraud.

The defamation lawsuit , which was filed on Thursday in New York state court in Manhattan, seeks $2.7 billion in damages. In addition to Fox and the two lawyers, Smartmatic names Fox hosts Lou Dobbs, Jeanine Pirro and Maria Bartiromo as defendants, saying they falsely claimed that the company's technology was used to help 'steal' the November 3 election from former President Donald Trump.

Florida-based Smartmatic said the defendants knew the election wasn't rigged, "but they also saw an opportunity to capitalize on President Trump's popularity by inventing a story. Defendants decided to tell people that the election was stolen from President Trump and Vice President (Mike) Pence." The company added that "without any true villain, defendants invented one. Defendants decided to make Smartmatic the villain in their story."

Moreover, Smartmatic said its software was used in just one jurisdiction in the November 3 election – Los Angeles County. Democrat Joe Biden won California by more than 5 million votes. Trump made allegations of election fraud in decisive swing states where Biden had narrow margins of victory, such as Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

[Feb 05, 2021] We Got It! TGP to Release SMOKING GUN Video from TCF Center in Detroit! ...Update: OH BOY! Our Report WILL SHAKE the Political World!

Feb 05, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

The video can settle for once and for all:

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And after our initial review of the TCF security video, we can assure you -- We have evidence of illicit and likely criminal activity and we have it on video.

[Feb 03, 2021] Pennsylvania official at center of Trump election concerns resigns

Feb 03, 2021 | nypost.com

The Pennsylvania secretary of state who emerged as a villain to supporters of former President Donald Trump said Monday she will resign for failing to comply with an unrelated state election law.

Kathy Boockvar, a Democrat, will leave office on Feb. 5. Her office botched the handling of a state constitutional amendment that would allow more sexual abuse victims to sue their alleged abusers.

In a statement, she said, "I've always believed that accountability and leadership must be a cornerstone of public service. While I only became aware of the mistake last week, and immediately took steps to alert the administration to the error, I accept the responsibility on behalf of the department."

Pennsylvania law requires that proposed amendments pass the state legislature twice. The secretary of state's office must publicize the proposed amendment in two newspapers in each of the state's 67 counties ahead of the election between votes, which her office failed to do.

Gov. Tom Wolf, also a Democrat, announced Boockvar's resignation in a press release that stressed the issue was separate from the presidential election.

"This change at the Department of State has nothing to do with the administration of the 2020 election, which was fair and accurate," Wolf said .

[Jan 29, 2021] Five Days After Biden Inauguration, Judge Rules Late Changes To VA Election Law That Allowed Late Mail-in-Ballots Without Pos

Notable quotes:
"... not making news ..."
Jan 29, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

One case that's not making news in the Democrat Party's mainstream media is a decision made by a Virginia judge on Monday. The judge ruled that last-minute changes made by election officials to allow absentee ballots with missing or illegible postmarks to be counted is illegal.

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Washington Examiner- "This is a big win for the Rule of Law," said Public Interest Legal Foundation President J. Christian Adams, who represented Frederick County electoral board member Thomas Reed in the case. "This consent decree gives Mr. Reed everything he requested -- a permanent ban on accepting ballots without postmarks after Election Day and is a loss for the Virginia bureaucrats who said ballots could come in without these protections."

The case was over a Virginia Board of Elections rule issued in August that allowed mail-in ballots without a postmark to be received up to three days after the November election.
The new Virginia Board of Elections rule notified county election boards that any ballots "received by the general registrar's office by noon on the third day after the election but does not have a postmark, or the postmark is missing or illegible" should not be rendered invalid. The elections board decided a week later that those ballots should be counted. One win for Virginia voters who care about election integrity. It's a pity this practice wasn't stopped BEFORE the ballots were tabulated in the November election.

[Jan 29, 2021] The Democrat Gaslight Express by Larry Johnson

Jan 29, 2021 | turcopolier.typepad.com

TV | 28 January 2021 at 11:49 PM

The Democrat-media party made no secret of their plan to use Covid panic and junk mail balloting to manipulate the election.

The Trump campaign was asleep At the switch and let it happen.

Trump lost- hook or by crook, it doesn't matter.

Then the Giuliani/Powell foolishness only made the whole bunch look stupid and actually hurt any real arguments about fraud.

Now, we are in a very bad place thanks to Democrat criminality, Trump campaign incompetence and masses of uninformed, badly educated voters.

Next, "green new deal" taxes and job losses for the very middle class that voted Biden because Trump - the rude "orange man" - sent "mean" tweets.

Life's tough, it's tougher when you're stupid.

Seamus Padraig , 29 January 2021 at 04:50 AM

Good points all, Larry.

I also noticed two months ago how quickly the vital questions concerning the mail-on ballots got diverted into some wild goose-chase involving voting machine software from Venezuela. Another attempt at side-tracking the investigation and drumming up support for 'régime change'?

As far as the Q-Anons themselves are concerned, I always sympathized with them to a large extent, even though I thought their 'theories' were a little off. Most of them are good people by nature, but perhaps just a little too credulous. I agree with Larry here: put your faith in God, not man. When analyzing the events of this world, stick to evidence and logic as much as you can. At the end of the day, hope is just another drug--hopium--that can skew your judgment ... which is just what the enemy wants.

But I have to admit that I still like the Q-Anon motto: 'Where we go one, we go all' (WWG1WGA). I'd like to rehabilitate it for general use by us deplorables, if I may. ;-)

Mark Gaughan , 29 January 2021 at 10:11 AM

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[Jan 27, 2021] DuPage County Illinois Signed -Anti-Transparency Contract- with Dominion Voting Systems - Company Pushed County to Resist Rel

Jan 27, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

When people are denied public records they routinely reach out to us for assistance and more often than not, we are able to request the same records and we get them. When this happens it is an indicator of a problem because if we are able to get those records, so too should others.

The DuPage County Clerk Jean Kaczmarek and her Chief Deputy Scott Mackay signed a contract with Dominion Voting Systems Inc. on January 24, 2020. After a copy of that contract was requested by an individual and denied, we were asked to assist in getting the same records. Our Freedom of Information Act request was granted and we find the Dominion Voting Systems encouragements to avoid transparency very troubling.

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From the Contract:

  • 8. Customer shall take any and all action necessary or appropriate to assert all applicable or potentially applicable exemptions from disclosure under the FOIA Statute and take all other legally permissible steps to resist disclosure of the Information including, without limitation, commencement or defense of any legal actions related to such disclosure. In the event Customer receives a request for Information under the FOIA Statute, Customer shall inform Dominion of such request within ten (10) days of Customer's knowledge or such shorter period as necessary under the FOIA Statute to avoid prejudice to Dominion's ability to oppose disclosure , Dominion shall use its best efforts to assist and support Customer's exercise of any statutory exemption in denying a records request under the Freedom of Information Act (5 ILCS 140/1 et seq.). In the event that Customer becomes subject to fines, costs or fees pursuant to Section 11 of the Freedom of Information Act (5 ICLS 140/11) relying upon Dominion's claim that the information requested is exempt, Dominion shall indemnify Customer for those fines, fees and costs, notwithstanding any other provisions In this agreement. In the event Customer is required by court order to disclose any of the Information, Customer shall give written notice to Dominion at the earlier as soon as reasonably practical after tile imposition of such an order.

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There are exemptions under FOIA regarding trade secrets and we understand such exemptions and their applicability to certain information. However, the language in this contract focuses on encouraging, in fact, instructing the County that they " shall " take any and all action necessary or appropriate to assert " potentially applicable exemptions from disclosure " and to take all other legally permissible steps to resist disclosure of the information.

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[Jan 26, 2021] Dominion sues Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani for $1.3 billion over election fraud claims

Looks like Dominion now can capitalize on Jan 6 events...
Notable quotes:
"... The lawsuit was filed in the Federal District Court in Washington, DC on Monday. The massive 107-page document lists over 50 statements from Giuliani which he made on Twitter, his podcast, in the media, and during legislative hearings about Dominion – one of the largest companies selling voting machines used in the US. ..."
"... To illustrate the damage presumably done by Giuliani, the lawsuit provides a long list of screenshots from assorted internet uses, primarily from Twitter, fuming at Dominion and accusing it of facilitating the election "steal." The voting machines and sharp spikes in vote counts in favor of Joe Biden, widely attributed to the system, have been among the centerpieces of conspiracy theories for the pro-Trump crowd in the aftermath of the turbulent election. ..."
"... The lawsuit also highlights Giuliani's role in the January 6 Capitol Hill riot, accusing him of stirring up the violence. The document quotes Giuliani's address at the pro-Trump rally shortly before the violence, when he urged supporters to engage in "trial by combat." ..."
Jan 25, 2021 | www.rt.com
Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani is being sued by Dominion Voting Systems over claims of fraud during the 2020 US presidential election. The company is seeking $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages.

The lawsuit was filed in the Federal District Court in Washington, DC on Monday. The massive 107-page document lists over 50 statements from Giuliani which he made on Twitter, his podcast, in the media, and during legislative hearings about Dominion – one of the largest companies selling voting machines used in the US.

Giuliani, like many other prominent supporters of former President Donald Trump, has repeatedly pointed the finger at the company as one of the main culprits behind Trump's election loss. Dominion has been accused of being part of an alleged plot to fix the election in favor of the Democrats, which, alongside mass mail-in voting, allegedly facilitated the "steal" of Trump's presumed 'victory'.

Dominion has accused Giuliani of waging a "viral disinformation campaign" and repeatedly producing "defamatory falsehoods" about it. It also claimed the allegedly false statements from Trump's lawyer have stirred up a storm of death threats against its employees.

To illustrate the damage presumably done by Giuliani, the lawsuit provides a long list of screenshots from assorted internet uses, primarily from Twitter, fuming at Dominion and accusing it of facilitating the election "steal." The voting machines and sharp spikes in vote counts in favor of Joe Biden, widely attributed to the system, have been among the centerpieces of conspiracy theories for the pro-Trump crowd in the aftermath of the turbulent election.

The lawsuit also highlights Giuliani's role in the January 6 Capitol Hill riot, accusing him of stirring up the violence. The document quotes Giuliani's address at the pro-Trump rally shortly before the violence, when he urged supporters to engage in "trial by combat."

The company is seeking at least $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages from Giuliani, demanding a trial by jury, according to the court documents.

The lawsuit against Giuliani largely resembles the one against another pro-Trump lawyer, Sidney Powell, filed by the company earlier this month. Powell has been accused of waging a "viral disinformation campaign" as well, with Dominion seeking the same eye-watering sum of 1.3 billion in damages from her.

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FelixTcat 8 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 02:48 PM

"Election results in a county in Michigan had to be corrected to show that President Trump won by nearly 2,000 votes after voting software gave 6,000 of his votes to Biden ." Which probably never would have been check if Antrim County wasn't such a Red county. Hard to find fraud when you refuse to look for it.
LeRuscino2 Sue Brown 11 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 11:08 AM
Exactly - Scream & shout 1st like MH-17 & when it's settled & Guiliani wins nobody will know or even remember.
Banalucki 3 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 07:46 PM
so classic americana - the business that created an electronic voting "process" that eliminates chain of custody protection, signatures and voter ID is suing Rudy for "fraud"...
Thomas51 2 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 08:26 PM
Political actions of any lawyer should bear consequences
VonnDuff1 2 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 08:01 PM
SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Policy) and nothing more. Unless you throw in Kangaroo Courts with Monkey Judges.
Trekker 8 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 02:36 PM
Good to put Giuliani away once and for all for all the damage he has caused.
GottaBeMe Skeptic076 7 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 03:39 PM
They'll have to audit the computer code finally. And they'll have to do it using machines in swing states that haven't been touched since November. Otherwise it's them saying one thing, Giuliani saying something else.
Pete Wagner 7 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 03:11 PM
I guess that means they've destroyed all the damning evidence and have their judge briefed, paid off, and ready to rule.
Sue Brown 12 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 10:53 AM
Typical USA style, don't defend yourself . . . when wronged = SUE!!!!
Enki14 9 hours ago 25 Jan, 2021 01:54 PM
Methinks this is a publicity stunt as they would not want a jury of Powell's peers to see the evidence Patrick Byrne PH.D. has amassed and the hundreds of witnesses that would be called to testify on Powell's behalf. Methinks they managed to destroy the evidence on their hard drives and thus feel the evidence would be viewed as circumstantial. However the pathways are real, were tracked and saved.

[Jan 25, 2021] The Democrats' First Bill of 2021 Is to Lock In Fraudulent Election Maneuvers and Steal Elections in Perpetuity

Jan 25, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Democrats introduce their first bill in the House: H.R.1 – The bill that will destroy America. Nationwide mail-in voting, banning restrictions on ballot harvesting, banning voter ID, criminal voters,DC Statehood roadwork, it's all in here.

1) Internet-only registration with electronic signature submission.

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"(a) Requiring Availability Of Internet For Online Registration. -- Each State, acting through the chief State election official, shall ensure that the following services are available to the public at any time on the official public websites of the appropriate State and local election officials in the State, in the same manner and subject to the same terms and conditions as the services provided by voter registration agencies under section 7(a):

"(1) Online application for voter registration.

2) Banning the requirement to provide a full SSN for voter registration.

SEC. 1005. PROHIBITING STATE FROM REQUIRING APPLICANTS TO PROVIDE MORE THAN LAST 4 DIGITS OF SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. (a) Form Included With Application For Motor Vehicle Driver's License. -- Section 5(c)(2)(B)(ii) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20504(c)(2)(B)(ii)) is amended by striking the semicolon at the end and inserting the following: ", and to the extent that the application requires the applicant to provide a Social Security number, may not require the applicant to provide more than the last 4 digits of such number;".

3) Nationwide 'Motor Voter' registration.

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Note that motor voter registration is how thousands of illegal became registered voters in California and Nevada.

(2) DEFINITION. -- The term "automatic registration" means a system that registers an individual to vote in elections for Federal office in a State, if eligible, by electronically transferring the information necessary for registration from government agencies to election officials of the State so that, unless the individual affirmatively declines to be registered, the individual will be registered to vote in such elections.

4) 16 year olds required to be registered to vote.

(d) Treatment Of Individuals Under 18 Years Of Age. -- A State may not refuse to treat an individual as an eligible individual for purposes of this part on the grounds that the individual is less than 18 years of age at the time a contributing agency receives information with respect to the individual, so long as the individual is at least 16 years of age at such time. Nothing in the previous sentence may be construed to require a State to permit an individual who is under 18 years of age at the time of an election for Federal office to vote in the election.

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5) Nationwide same-day registration.

"(1) REGISTRATION. -- Each State shall permit any eligible individual on the day of a Federal election and on any day when voting, including early voting, is permitted for a Federal election --

"(A) to register to vote in such election at the polling place using a form that meets the requirements under section 9(b) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (or, if the individual is already registered to vote, to revise any of the individual's voter registration information); and

"(B) to cast a vote in such election.

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6) Grants ($25M) for using minors in election activities.

(1) IN GENERAL. -- The Election Assistance Commission (hereafter in this section referred to as the "Commission") shall make grants to eligible States to enable such States to carry out a plan to increase the involvement of individuals under 18 years of age in public election activities in the State.

7) More children voters.

"(k) Acceptance Of Applications From Individuals Under 18 Years Of Age. --

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- A State may not refuse to accept or process an individual's application to register to vote in elections for Federal office on the grounds that the individual is under 18 years of age at the time the individual submits the application, so long as the individual is at least 16 years of age at such time.

8) Prohibiting attempts to clean voter rolls of non-residents.

It's this whole section, but in particular, this part below basically says nobody is allowed to request voter rolls to be cleaned up. ie: making it illegal to do what Tom Fitton was doing.

"(1) REQUIREMENTS FOR CHALLENGES. -- No person, other than a State or local election official, shall submit a formal challenge to an individual's eligibility to register to vote in an election for Federal office or to vote in an election for Federal office unless that challenge is supported by personal knowledge regarding the grounds for ineligibility which is --

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9) Murderers and rapists can vote.

(1) NOTIFICATION. -- On the date determined under paragraph (2), each State shall notify in writing any individual who has been convicted of a criminal offense under the law of that State that such individual has the right to vote in an election for Federal office pursuant to the Democracy Restoration Act of 2021 and may register to vote in any such election and provide such individual with any materials that are necessary to register to vote in any such election.

10) Mandatory early voting.

Note that I personally like early voting in Florida, but putting it here anyway.

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- Each State shall allow individuals to vote in an election for Federal office during an early voting period which occurs prior to the date of the election, in the same manner as voting is allowed on such date.

11) THE BIG ONE – NATIONWIDE VOTE BY MAIL, BAN ON BALLOT PROTECTION MEASURES, LEGALIZED LIMITLESS BALLOT HARVESTING.

"SEC. 307. PROMOTING ABILITY OF VOTERS TO VOTE BY MAIL.

"(a) Uniform Availability Of Absentee Voting To All Voters. --

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- If an individual in a State is eligible to cast a vote in an election for Federal office, the State may not impose any additional conditions or requirements on the eligibility of the individual to cast the vote in such election by absentee ballot by mail.

"(2) ADMINISTRATION OF VOTING BY MAIL. --

"(A) PROHIBITING IDENTIFICATION REQUIREMENT AS CONDITION OF OBTAINING BALLOT. -- A State may not require an individual to provide any form of identification as a condition of obtaining an absentee ballot, except that nothing in this paragraph may be construed to prevent a State from requiring a signature of the individual or similar affirmation as a condition of obtaining an absentee ballot.

"(B) PROHIBITING REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE NOTARIZATION OR WITNESS SIGNATURE AS CONDITION OF OBTAINING OR CASTING BALLOT. -- A State may not require notarization or witness signature or other formal authentication (other than voter attestation) as a condition of obtaining or casting an absentee ballot.

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"(2) PERMITTING VOTERS TO DESIGNATE OTHER PERSON TO RETURN BALLOT. -- The State --

"(A) shall permit a voter to designate any person to return a voted and sealed absentee ballot to the post office, a ballot drop-off location, tribally designated building, or election office so long as the person designated to return the ballot does not receive any form of compensation based on the number of ballots that the person has returned and no individual, group, or organization provides compensation on this basis; and

"(B) may not put any limit on how many voted and sealed absentee ballots any designated person can return to the post office, a ballot drop off location, tribally designated building, or election office.

12) Banning voter ID.

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"(1) IN GENERAL. -- Except as provided in subsection (c), if a State has in effect a requirement that an individual present identification as a condition of receiving and casting a ballot in an election for Federal office, the State shall permit the individual to meet the requirement --

"(A) in the case of an individual who desires to vote in person, by presenting the appropriate State or local election official with a sworn written statement, signed by the individual under penalty of perjury, attesting to the individual's identity and attesting that the individual is eligible to vote in the election; or

13) Roadwork for DC statehood and territory statehood.

The whole subtitle.

[Jan 24, 2021] As I recall in 2016 Jill Stein had both audits and recounts beginning two weeks after the election.

Notable quotes:
"... One of the authors cited Wall Street, banks and voting as examples of guaranteed fraud, because it's so easy – naive stupidity on our part knows no bounds. That includes me! It all took place under CIA watch! ..."
Nov 30, 2020 | www.unz.com

Old and Grumpy , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

So what? Has there been any legal action actually being done against Dominion and the election? How about some simple audited vote recounting? As I recall in 2016 Jill Stein had both audits and recounts beginning two weeks after the election. Donald Trump hasn't done anything other than golf.

Whining is just meant to stir us up because the deep staters really want the right white wing to go hot. Can you imagine how sad they would be if their planned color flag revolution violent stage mean't they would have to kill off some of their miscreant human assets? All that work down the drain because of some damn stubborn white people.

For the record, I really want to be wrong on this.

Crush Limbraw , says: Website Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

First, I want to thank a commenter on another site last week who provided a link to Gary North's report on computerized electoral fraud – talk about making ballot stuffing easy and hard to prove!

So I posted this thread in DaLimbraw Library – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/11/beyond-shameful-why-it-all-developed.html?m=0 – it shows that it goes back decades to the 60's. In fact, DaBastahds who understood computer systems were salivating to start computerized voting fraud almost immediately and improved their techniques constantly to this day.

Shit, any dummy with basic coding skills could probably do it! North has documented examples.

One whistleblower, for example, asserts that Pat Buchanan was gypped in the 96 AZ primary in favor of Dole – computerized 'glitches'?

We've all heard 'Garbage in-garbage out' – if you think about it, considering the intelligence of the average voting dumbquat, it would be impossible NOT to have computerized fraud – undetected!

Most of us trust those screens we stare at – forgetting totally that we're being programmed to trust them – while being manipulated.

Did you ever notice the 'coincidence' of computer dependent fraud in three institutions?

One of the authors cited Wall Street, banks and voting as examples of guaranteed fraud, because it's so easy – naive stupidity on our part knows no bounds. That includes me! It all took place under CIA watch!

follyofwar , says: Next New Comment November 18, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago
@Old and Grumpy

How can you conduct a successful audit or recount when the secret ballots were separated from the envelops they came in when they were opened? There is no way to tell who the individual voters voted for. That's why democrats insisted on mail-in ballots, using the (deadly?) corona virus as their excuse. It seems that voting at the polls on election day is for republican chumps. BTW, Jill Stein's recounts in 2016 went nowhere.

[Jan 24, 2021] Rand Paul Slams Stephanopoulos In Sunday Spat Over Election Integrity

Notable quotes:
"... "The debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur. We never had any presentation in court where we ever looked at the evidence..." ..."
"... '75% of Republicans want to look at election integrity,' Paul responds. Stephanopoulos responds by saying that those 75% agree with him because they were "fed a big lie" from the President. ..."
"... Paul pushed back, telling Stephanopoulos: "You immediately say everything's a lie instead of saying there's two sides to everything. Historically what would happen is if I said I thought there was fraud, you'd interview someone else who said there wasn't. But now you insert yourself in the middle and say that the absolute fact is that everything I'm saying is a lie." ..."
"... You gotta ask the question of Rand here though, even as a lone voice of reason that Rand Paul is he and the Trump supporting Senators failed the Republic. They needed to push forward and introduce the Election Fraud evidence after the Jan. 6 planned interruption of the evidence hearing. Why didn't the Election fraud evidence get its day in front of Congress? The Fraud needed to be part of the historical record, and it was not. ..."
"... South Philly judge of elections admits he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates ..."
"... The problem is that there are only a few decent human beings in the Republic leadership who are not entirely in the pocket of the RNC, which is entirely in the pocket of the globalists. ..."
"... The MSM has given up the pretense of being journalists. They are full-fledged propagandist attack dogs and proud of it. ..."
Jan 24, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) took to ABC on Sunday morning with George Stephanopoulos to discuss election integrity of the 2020 election, in a discussion which immediately devolved into an inquisition during which Paul was repeatedly pressed to disavow clams that the election was stolen.

Paul not only pushed back -- he put Stephanopoulos in his place, accusing the host of 'inserting yourself in the middle' and 'forgetting who you are as a journalist.'

Stephanopoulos began by asking Paul to admit the "election was not stolen" -- to which Paul responded by saying "The debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur. We never had any presentation in court where we ever looked at the evidence..."

Paul continued: "There were several states in which the law was changed by the Secretary of State and not the state legislature. To me those are clearly unconstitutional and I think there's still a chance those do finally work their way up to the Supreme Court."

"No election is perfect," Stephanopoulos shot back , telling Paul there were "86 challenges filed by President Trump, all were dismissed". As Paul tries to argue that many cases were dismissed for lack of standing and not due to examination of evidence, Stephanopoulos responds: " Can't you just say the words 'this election wasn't stolen'? "

'75% of Republicans want to look at election integrity,' Paul responds. Stephanopoulos responds by saying that those 75% agree with him because they were "fed a big lie" from the President.

Paul pushed back, telling Stephanopoulos: "You immediately say everything's a lie instead of saying there's two sides to everything. Historically what would happen is if I said I thought there was fraud, you'd interview someone else who said there wasn't. But now you insert yourself in the middle and say that the absolute fact is that everything I'm saying is a lie."

"You're saying there's no fraud and it's all been investigated and that's just not true," Paul continues, with Stephanopoulos arguing at the same time. Paul then goes into specifics, detailing irregularities in states in like Wisconsin. "I plan on spending the next two years going around, state to state, fixing these problems," Paul continues. "Let's have an open debate. It's a free country!"

"There has been no thorough examination of all states to see what problems we had and see if we could fix them," Paul says, responding to Stephanopoulos' claims that Bill Barr pronounced there was "no widespread election fraud".

"There's two sides to every story," Paul says. "Interview someone on the other side, but don't insert yourself into the story to say we're all liars."

"You're forgetting who you are as a journalist if you think there's only one side," Paul says. "A journalist would hear both sides and there are two sides to this story."

You can watch the entire 6 minute exchange here:

https://platform.twitter.com

Election integrity aside, Paul has been a vocal critic of the Biden administration in recent days . On Saturday, we noted Paul's interview with Fox host Sean Hannity, where he pummeled the Biden administration's decision to push for a $15 minimum wage increase that could put 4 million people out of work - leading the Kentucky Republican to exclaim:

"'Why does Joe Biden hate Black teenagers?' ... Why does Joe Biden want to destroy all of these jobs?"

Paul comments come amid ramblings from various leftist economists who insist that there's no impact on employment from such a drastic minimum wage hike...

https://player.cnbc.com/p/gZWlPC/cnbc_global?playertype=synd&byGuid=7000173838

...common sense (and historical experience) for anyone who has ever run an actual business is that raising costs on the lowest-skilled workers in your organization will ripple all the way up, forcing either higher prices to the end-user (eradicating the 'living wage' improvement) and or forcing layoffs as management hold margins and reduce costs (the least-skilled first).

Historically speaking, the black unemployment rate is twice that of whites , while minimum wage increases - as we've shown repeatedly over the last week - correlate with spikes in job losses just about every single time.

That's not an "alternative" fact, that's the awkward reality of 'unintended consequences' from nanny-state intervention write large for the last 70 years.

Paul also blasted Biden for canceling the Keystone XL oil pipeline:

"It's kind of a strange beginning to an administration," Paul said. "You're going to put your best foot forward and the first thing you say is, 'This is how I'm going to kill jobs' ... 'I'm going to kill thousands of jobs of the Keystone pipeline with ending it.'"

You can watch that full interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/x0zmmYMTMQc



various2 1 hour ago

Nobody disputes billionaires conspiracy election fraud to destroy political nationalism...

sgt_doom 16 minutes ago (Edited)

ELECTION INTEGRITY: The Great American Myth

Background: Fractional Magic (Bev Harris and Bennie Smith explain GEMS software, still used in Dominion Voting Systems)

https://youtu.be/Fob-AGgZn44

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Data scientists explain what went down in Georgia and Pennsylvania

https://youtu.be/IKiyAy9vjrk

https://youtu.be/EM8pC1pAizc

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The media view: watching ballot numbers flip on TV

https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html

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State--level criticism:

https://youtu.be/6CnFhbNP_1c

https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/laws/dominion.shtml

Explanation : There are multiple ways to commit election fraud using Dominion systems but the most efficient manner is the full spectrum two-step process.

First at the adjudication step -- effectively covered in the data scientists' presentation on Georgia video -- massive ballot flipping and with the previous ballot images deleted, no trail remains.

Secondly at the tabulator stage (GEMS software, covered in detail in the Fractional Magic video) ----- so ballots which were not adjudicated, and in some counties 90% went to the adjudication process, proceeded to the tabulation step where they could be fractionalized.

Boing_Snap 20 minutes ago

You gotta ask the question of Rand here though, even as a lone voice of reason that Rand Paul is he and the Trump supporting Senators failed the Republic. They needed to push forward and introduce the Election Fraud evidence after the Jan. 6 planned interruption of the evidence hearing. Why didn't the Election fraud evidence get its day in front of Congress? The Fraud needed to be part of the historical record, and it was not.

nmewn 2 hours ago (Edited)

George Stephanopoulos: "There was not enough fraud to..."

Oh. So thats how the Leftardian brain works! Thank you Georgie boi. You now admit to voter fraud whereby legitimate votes were cancelled out by the fraud but it is your opinion that there was not enough fraud for it to matter. Never again do I want to hear this little runt of the litter yapping "Every vote matters!"

Feck Weed 2 hours ago

That's the fallback, the "widespread" qualifier.

Cheapie 1 hour ago

Yes, "Mostly honest election."

dark_matter 15 minutes ago

Just like mostly peaceful protestors as the buildings burn.

Zero-Hegemon 2 hours ago

Yes, "just enough" fraud to cover for Traitor Joe, but NOT ENOUGH to warrant a look into the allegations. You got his number.

Samual Vimes 2 hours ago

South Philly judge of elections admits he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates

https://www.inquirer.com/news/voter-fraud-philadelphia-ward-leader-judge-of-elections-domenick-demuro-guilty-plea-20200521.html

Huxley's Ghost 1 hour ago

Public schools have zero tolerance for 'bullying' (that definition has been broadened to irrelevance) or acting out for grade schools kids who barely have the ability to control themselves... but SOME election fraud is ok. Shining examples of values-driven integrity.

FluTangClan 2 hours ago

Stephanopoulos is Bill Clinton's lapdog. He's not a journalist. He's a democratic party operative and always has been. He's a warmonger dwarf. He was there for banging interns with cigars. He was there for Vince Foster...

Samual Vimes 2 hours ago

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/1-5-mail-ballots-rejected-4-charged-fraud-new-jersey-election

Samual Vimes 1 hour ago

Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

Samual Vimes 1 hour ago

A Running Compendium Of Fraud Charges In Election 2020

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/running-compendium-fraud-charges-election-2020

LetThemEatRand 2 hours ago

I would say Rand Paul is one of the few Republicans who is not corrupted. He's not perfect either, but he seems to be one of a handful who tries to do something he promised to his voters. As you point out, the problem isn't that there are a few RINOs. The problem is that there are only a few decent human beings in the Republic leadership who are not entirely in the pocket of the RNC, which is entirely in the pocket of the globalists.

Jim in MN 2 hours ago

https://results.philadelphiavotes.com/ResultsSW.aspx?type=FED&map=CTY#page-3

Wards 1 and 2, all districts, 'normal' results with Trump around 5-15% (he officially won 12% of the black vote and 18% of the black male vote nationwide).

Ward 3 district 1.....and the next few hundred districts in Wards 3, 4, 5, etc.....98%+ D.

Stolen votes. Mostly black men's votes.

Then do Detroit. Same thing, a 'buffer page' or two of normal looking results and then bam 98+% D.

Simple corruption, simple cheating.

NOW we can talk about the chain of custody of the mail-in 'thingies' and the security of the electronic systems.....but only if you can admit the bald truth in the DNC machine cities.

Jim in MN 2 hours ago

https://detroitmi.gov/webapp/election-results

Do it or STFU.

ebworthen 2 hours ago

The MSM has given up the pretense of being journalists. They are full-fledged propagandist attack dogs and proud of it.

Handful of Dust 2 hours ago (Edited)

One problem Georgie and his Demorat pals have, is the 100 million people who listened to the State Legislative hearings with Rudy where hundreds of witnesses came forward with credible evidence of fraud. Then there are the video segments of evidence of fraud. Then you have a dozen of the world's top forensic data people coming from all over including forensic teams from Wall Street who testified "there is zero probability Biden could have gotten those numbers."

Inconvenient facts that provide overwhelming proof of fraud. That's why Dems are still in a tizzy and have 50,000 soldiers and police protecting His Majesty Biden...but this is not going away from what Rand Paul says.

"Da peeples love me so much I need 15 platoons of soldiers for protection," Pol Pot yelled to the rabble below his bullet-proof, bomb-proof balcony.

Rattling Bones 2 hours ago

How come Stephanopoulos can't say the words 'there was no Russian collusion'?

Demologos 2 hours ago

He enjoys his nice fat paycheck for looking the other way.

That Old Magic 2 hours ago

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it ." ― Upton Sinclair

philmannwright 2 hours ago

George is not a journalist puhlease everyone knows that. He is the el chapito of the dem media

FluTangClan 2 hours ago

Thank you. He was on Bill Clinton's staff. He was a happy part of bombing Iraqi babies, bombing Yugoslavia, bombing phkn Sudan based on internet searches. He has zero credibility. His credibility is buried with Vince Foster.

adr 2 hours ago (Edited)

They can never allow the evidence to be presented because it is overwhelming proof of fraud. If there was no fraud, then there would be no harm in having evidence presented in court. The absolute proof of fraud is the number of adjudicated ballots. Were 68% of people in Georgia really incompetent enough to not know how to fill out a ballot.

The other irrefutable fact is that the state of PA did not follow an order from the US supreme court to separate ballots received after election day. Also in Philadelphia election officials destroyed the envelopes so they could not be matched with ballots.

Even if Biden really did win those two states, which he didn't, the actions of the election supervisors invalidated the election. The only recourse was to have a new election in disputed states.

headless blogger 1 hour ago (Edited)

Plus, Paul is not the best person to make the case for the American people on election integrity, as he isn't even an attorney. He can't debate the issue properly which allows the Psy-ops operators like Steph to out maneuver him.

People need FACTS, which so far the election integrity researchers are not providing in a logical and chronological format. The PSY OPS operation that pulled off the Coup, are smooth operators and are now able to clean up any loose ends with their media.

What needs to happen is an independent investigation that can present the findings in a way that people understand. As it is, they keep screaming election fraud, but aren't providing details in an orderly manner so nobody can really get a grip on what happened.....

....which is the hallmark of a psy-ops operation; they don't want you to be able to process what happened logically and chronologically.

yerfej 43 minutes ago

No, they have implemented a very good long term strategy to take over the positions of power. Academia is a good example where they own it and now have the ability to pollute minds rather than get students to look at all sides of the equation. That doesn't do anyone outside of the elites any good. Reality is its not a left vs. right thing, its the common people vs. the elites.

rkb100100 2 hours ago

"No election is perfect" - that'll be carved on the countries tombstone.

Lost in translation 1 hour ago

Blows my mind that people forget so quickly how he turned - or just overlook it - and continue in the foolish belief "Rand is one of the good guys!"

People reveal themselves in a crisis. Rand certainly did...

TruthAbsolute 1 hour ago

of course there was election fraud...and the democrats have set up a system that protects them well. All the way up to the judicial system and if not their judge then families are threaten. There is is no integrity in politics, these people are not honest or very, very few of them! They are not working for the people but ultimately for themselves and their life treasure chess! USA has become very Evil minded!

Jam 1 hour ago remove link

Nice to see Paul not backing down, someone in politics still has a backbone and can tell it like it is besides Trump.

[Jan 24, 2021] DATA EXPERT- 200,000 Pennsylvania Ballots Were Modified After Election - A Sampling of 100,000 Arizona Ballots Show 'Material

Jan 24, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

There was fraud everywhere in the 2020 election and to not address this is to destroy the future of our children while stomping on the graves of those who died for this country.

We've pointed out literally a million invalid ballots which were included in the 'certified' results in the 2020 election in three states alone:

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The Democrats want to punish you for discussing this massive fraud and the Republicans want to say it didn't happen. What is wrong with this picture?

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TRENDING: In Text Messages, Biden Voters Already Regret Their Vote

Now today, we have a copy of the letter from data analyst Bobby Piton to the Arizona legislature in December. Remember, Piton testified in front of the Arizona legislature about the blatant fraud in that state and bet his life on the results.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/no-dissent-allowed-twitter-suspends-arizona-gop-witness-bobby-piton-blistering-testimony-election-fraud/embed/#?secret=0x7RjN8WzO

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Today can report on a letter Piton sent to the Arizona legislature in December. He pointed out that more that 50% of a sample of 1,000 voters in the 2020 election were not real people. The sample came from a list of 100,000 voters in the 2020 election in Arizona.

Pitton also notes that 200,000 Pennsylvania ballots were edited the day after the election. The letter from Bobby Piton to the Arizona legislature is below:

12112020 AZ Legislature Letter by Jim Hoft on Scribd

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/491822278/content?start_page=1&view_mode=scroll&access_key=key-gTQ6KovnOgRHizcsjP9y

The Arizona legislature did pass a motion to forensically audit the votes in Maricopa County, the most populous county in the state which includes Phoenix. But now the Board of Supervisors are attempting to prevent a 'real' audit from the likes of Jovan Hutton Pulitzer and instead have their choice of auditor perform the audit.

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The efforts to prevent the people of Arizona from knowing the truth about the results of the 2020 election continue.

Please contact Arizona's Legislature and let them know you want Jovan Hutton Pulitzer to perform the forensic audit in Maricopa County of the ballots from the election. Americans and Arizonians deserve the truth.

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The Mirror
4 hours ago
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Personally I don't care what political side one is on..... this IS about the process !
If the corruption of the process is NOT fixed, then this Country IS dead !

Coherent Order The Mirror 4 hours ago ,

That is why we need to keep protesting in the millions without the Trump and MAGA hats. Do not associate with any group and protest as everyday average Jane and Joe Americans - that way the tyrants cannot label us to any affiliation.

George Coherent Order 4 hours ago • edited ,

Wrong they will still label us according to race and they will still replace us with newly minted citizens

Back from the dead George 4 hours ago ,

Identity politics is segregation.

Emron McCabe Back from the dead 3 hours ago • edited ,

The kkk has been resurrected and is operating in full swing by the left. Everyone the left appears to embrace from those with deviant sexual behavior to those of certain races are pawns. They use them to advance their totalitarian agenda. Once the commiecraps get what they want, the pawns will be eliminated.

blacknoon Coherent Order 3 hours ago ,

Unorganized protest will never even get out the front door. You must have leadership to direct people's efforts. War doesn't always means military and firearms. Weapons can be simply protest signs, advertisements on tv and online, mass mailings, phone calls, supplies is money to make the signs, to purchase the ads, tools and equipment to make protest signs, food, water, car pools to get those who can't or don't have the means to travel and reduce over all cost. Business is war, and war is business.

Ask any union boss about strikes and all the planning that goes into one. You just don't show up one day and get pissed off and tell the boss hey I'm going on strike and hope others will just get fed up like you and walk off. Nope that almost never happens.

There is always talk, planning, defining of goals and so on. Even boycotts don't work unless there is a clearly defining means of what is the purpose of the boycotts and what it takes to end it. Unified effort gets noticed and produces results. Random effort isn't even noticed by anyone. So go ahead and do your own independent protest and let's see how far you get. Now you get tens of thousands to millions of people to go along with you, now you get CHANGE. Even in Hong Kong, it's a quagmire. No good organized protesting.

A whole bunch of people causing chaos and a lot of people dying, jailed, and flat out disappearing. When someone does come on board and start organizing the resistance, they start making head way until the CCP whacks the person off and then it's back to ineffective chaos.

That is where clear lines of authority comes into play. When the leader is disposed, a recognized new one takes the person's place without a hiccup and the battle continues.

[Jan 24, 2021] The burden of proof remains upon those claiming the election was honest to provide irrefutable evidence to support the claim

Jan 24, 2021 | off-guardian.org

They should iether explain proven anomalies or shut up Jan 23, 2021

The burden of proof remains upon those claiming the election was honest to provide irrefutable evidence to support the claim.

Presidential vote fraud is immaterial, anyway, because the US Constitution empowers each State Legislature to assign Electoral College Electors any way they so choose. If State Legislatures choose their Electors according to the fake results from fake elections, that is their Constitutional right to do so. Even if the States pass laws to the contrary, if they choose not to prosecute their own lawbreaking, the outcome is the same: whatever the State Legislatures want or tolerate irregardless of votes from the People. Constitutionally, Presidential elections are decided by votes of the People for their respective State Legislators, you remember, those nameless, low-paid, locally elected State Representatives and State Senators. 1 0 Reply

Bill Beeby , Jan 23, 2021 9:41 AM

Trump was the perfect catalyst for this to happen it would seem and he is well out of it. Old Joe has some tough times ahead and compared to Trump he is a pushover.

[Jan 24, 2021] The world just witnessed TOTAL collusion between big business and a so called neoliebral government, right here in the USof A

Jan 24, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Tannenhouser , Jan 23 2021 0:25 utc | 89

@83. The world just witnessed TOTAL collusion between big business and a so called left government, right here in the USof A. Did u really just come here and say fascism is from the right only. Wow dude yer seriously bent. Happy to be wrong. If u didnt say that then please explain what you ment.

[Jan 22, 2021] Zone B exists, thus there is hope, I promise you!, by The Saker

Jan 22, 2021 | www.unz.com

while I don't believe in the existence of US domestic terrorists, I do believe that millions of US citizens are convinced that the vote was stolen. These people are understandably disgusted and angry. Many might be desperate or even despondent. Let's call them the "deplorables" and consider it a badge of honor. Well, these deporables won't take DC by force, but they will never trust a Dem or GOP politician again, and neither will they ever trust the corporate media. One of the blessings in disguise of this stolen election is that the GOP and Fox News have shown their true faces, and their faces are evil, stupid and ugly. 4 years ago millions of US citizens did not so much vote for Trump as much as they voted against Hillary whom they (correctly) saw as a symbol and metaphor for the entire "deep state", or "swamp" or "ZOG" or whatever other expression you prefer.

These deplorables first trusted Obama ("change we can believe in") and, later, Trump (MAGA). Now they know that both sides are equally evil and false.

In the past, both factions of the Big Money Party had safety valves (Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street, Rand Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders, etc.). I think that now the two parties are literally standing naked and boy is that an ugly sight!

Third, and this point I primarily address to my readers in the USA and that will force me to make a sidebar primarily directed at them:

[Sidebar: the planet can be divided into 2 rough parts: ZONE A full controlled by the AngloZionist Empire and, ZONE B, which includes everybody else. The vast majority of Americans are only really aware of Zone A. Why? For the following reasons:

and speaking Spanish knows that totally false this belief is, of course. But few non-Hispanic Americans ever speak in Spanish to the Hispanics in the USA (FYI – I do). Anglos generally seem to have a hard time with languages Sadly, most Americans are not educated by their parents, their religious leaders, their communities, or their schools. Most Americans get most of their education from watching TV. Since all the US TV channels offer almost the exact same mix of vulgar entertainment, propaganda and commercials, this "education" resulted in a huge amount of massively dysfunctional families and communities. This addiction to a flickering screen (be it the Idiot Tube or You Tube – same difference) gives them a very short attention span and a limited ability to process large amounts of written information, which is what is needed to be able to analyze a situation]

As a direct consequence of these factors, most Americans live in a "mental space" where Zone B simply does not exist, and when it is mentioned, it is invariable in the "same old clichés" mode.

Finally, considering all of the above, it is truly a miracle that the deplorables completely ignored a massive brainwashing campaign (waaaay worse than anything the Commies or the Nazis ever came up with!) against "Trump the New Hitler" and still voted for him twice, both in 2016 and 2020! It really goes to show that most Americans quietly but passionately hate the regime in DC and that they use every opportunity they get to at least to try to change their country and their lives by means of voting. Makes you wonder what these "disobedient" deplorables will do the next time around now that voting became clearly a waste of time, don't it?]

Now here is the good news: Zone B does exist! In fact, it is huge, rich, truly diverse and it has long figured out that both the AngloZionist Empire and even the USA as we knew them have basically died, all that's left from it is some residual momentum and many bad habits by ignorant, arrogant and delusional US politicians.

Why is that so important?

Because if we allow the Great Satan (actually a very good and exact expression, I think that it fits the new regime perfectly, I will use it more often) to convince us that reality is all contained in Zone A, we could really fall into despair. Yeah, the USA is screwed, and so is all of the EU. As for US colonies like AUS or NZ, not only are they screwed (say by siding with the USA against a much, MUCH more powerful China), they also seem to have a morbid desire to outstupid even the USA in terms of crazy laws and insane ideological positions (say on COVID, for example). But all this in ONLY true inside Zone A. Very few people in Zone B still believe that the USA matters a great deal. Most of them already know otherwise, even if this is never reported by Zone A media.

There is even more good news: neither the (rump) AngloZionist Empire nor the (rump) USA represent any credible threat to most countries in Zone B . Oh sure, US politicians can call Russia a "gas station masquerading as a country" or a "regional power", the truth is that the united West has completely failed to break, or even meaningfully hurt Russia, despite 46 sanction packages (that's just by Trump, not counting the "change we can believe in" crook). Heck, even COVID only marginally hurt Russia (which, unlike the flag-waving pseudo-patriotic crap spewed by western politicians took COVID seriously, very seriously in fact, as early as March and prepared the country for no less than two major outbreaks, both which happened, and both which Russia successfully dealt with; this is why the EU is now in full COVID-hysteria mode, while Russia does not bother to impose any lockdowns at all!).

Now let's place two US propaganda items side by side and take a look, ok?

The USA has the most powerful economy on the planet. Russia is the #1 adversary of the USA (at least according to the Dems, the GOP places China as #1 and Russia only as #2)

Do you see the problem?

If the USA is so powerful, how is it that it failed to crush Russia? What about Iran? Or, in extremis , Venezuela? Yet, even the the last case, the "best" this supposed World Hegemon did was send a few clueless ex-special ops to get caught and give case of hysterical laughter to the entire Latin American continent!

And these folks want to take on China or Russia?!

Peuhleeze!

So here is the other very good news: Zone A presents no real threat to Zone B!!!

Yes, of course, the USA can still nuke China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela or some other country. But let's look at the consequences of such a strike:

comprador regime in Bogota will not survive such a war and Colombia will also "fall". Against any other Zone B country: the US successfully nukes this/these country/countries only to find itself being treated like a pariah by the entire planet (including quite a few US colonies), including the real military powers. NATO and the EU will also collapse is that happens (the US being their cornerstone).

The bottom line is that while the US triad is still fully functional and capable of waging a full-scale nuclear war against any adversary (including Russia and, even more so, China), the truth is that all this triad really achieves is making it impossible for another nuclear power to use nukes against the USA. Which is not minor or irrelevant, the problem here being that the US nuclear triad provides with with exactly zero help when trying to deal with any adversary not using nukes (either because this adversary choose not to use nukes due to the effective deterrence of the US nuclear triad or simply because it has no nukes in the first place).

As I have mentioned in the past, the US submarine force is, along with the nuclear triad, the other truly effective and powerful force which the US can count on in case of war. However, other than launching large numbers of outdated and, therefore, easily countered cruise missiles there is little this force can do to assist a US ground (or, for that matter) air operation against anything but a very weak adversary. The problem with so-called "sub-peer" adversaries is that they have relatively few lucrative targets to strike with cruise missiles (think Venezuela here). Most of these subpeer adversaries do not have the air defenses needed to deal with any halfway determined US missile and bomb attack and the US can quickly destroy whatever air defenses such "sub-peer" countries have. So yes, I admit it. If tomorrow the USA wants a "short and triumphant war", say to boost morale or distract from internal problems, they could still attack countries like, say, Antigua and Barbuda or Santa Lucia, but such a farce will hardly would qualify as "brilliant victory" of the "best armed forces in the galaxy", now would it? Or maybe would, who knows? Ff the united propaganda machine wants to present that as a triumph for US forces, like they did with the Grenada invasion (one of the worst military operation in history!) they can do that, of course. But that would only serve to further ridicule that propaganda machine since 2021 is not 1983, there are now millions of deplorables out there who will never buy this kind of silly nonsense.

Besides, considering how the joint efforts of the USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia (the "Axis of Kindness") completely failed to deal with the Houthis, my money would not be on any US invasion force in the Caribbean (with the possible exception of a re-invasion of Haiti or the Dominican Republic, but these are already US protectorates, what would be the point?!).

Why does all that matter so much?

Because the Dems are clearly up to no good. Next, not only will we see a wave of repression against free speech internally, but the Dems are already making noises about, you guessed it, China and Russia (again!) and, when that inevitably yield exactly zero results, they will turn to "hate on" Iran and Venezuela again. But even these comparatively weaker countries are now very much capable of making Uncle Shmuel pay an immense price in blood and hell to pay in terms of political blowback on to many fronts to count.

The "power" of a nation (or a coalition of nations) can be measured using very many different type of metrics, but the three most common ones would probably be: economic power, military power and political power. If we use those three to compare Zone A to Zone B, it would be reasonable to posit the following:

people worldwide have long switched their support for Zone B countries. The recent triumph of the people of Bolivia over their oppressors is a very telling sign of this trend.

And here is the key factor to keep in mind: there is nothing, absolutely nothing, the Biden/Harris Admin can do to change these trends. It is simply too late and when the initiation of the internal collapse of the USA, these trends will only accelerate .

Yes, the bad guys did win, but only over Trump and his clueless pseudo-allies (did they betray him faster than he betrayed them, or was it the other way around?), but they only won one a battle against the deplorables and they have won exactly nothing against Zone B.

The Dems are now busy with vengeance in all its forms. They also relish in humiliating Trump and those who dared to support him. This is the political equivalent of torturing people in basements, not winning glorious battles. But they don't realize that, they are too vain, too ideologically hateful, and too cowardly to understand that.

Still, brainwashing, like torture (including mental torture!), is real. In this case, this is a battle for the minds of the deplorables who now have to be beaten down into a catatonic state of total submission and compliance. The Dems are using lies, their favorite weapon, but their assault is real, nonetheless. And this is the battle which we, those who opposed imperialism, have to fight – the battle for the minds of the people in Zone A: we need to show them that the pseudo-reality of Zone A has no real existence outside the Idiot Box and the vapid rhetoric of US decision makers.

We have to mentally prepare for a sharp increase in the amount and scope of the lies the US propaganda machine will be telling us (if you thought the last 4 years were bad, prepare for much, much worse; good example here ). And, of course, expect LOTS of false flags, especially to demonstrate the reality of the alleged danger coming from the "domestic terrorists". That will all go down against a background of a full-spectrum attack on free speech, dissent and any form of actual (as opposed to pretend) thought, really.

The irony is, of course, that the coming witch hunt (it will be way worse than Salem or McCarthy) will be waged in the name of diversity and ostensibly against "hate". In reality, of course, what the regime wants is to crush real diversity because the leaders of the US Nomenklatura absolutely hate everything besides their sorry selves. Like all ideologues, what these folks want is 1) total power and 2) total uniformity. All those rejecting these modern dogmas will be branded has criminals, terrorists, heretics, racist and, of course, Russian and Chinese agents.

And that is why this regime will also fail.

Conclusion: diversity WILL win. The REAL diversity, of course!

Our planet is wonderfully diverse, especially outside the uniformity sector of Zone A. There IS a Zone B out there, and the leaders of Zone A will be defeated by our real common and shared humanity (and their hatred for us!). Somewhere between Obama and Trump, the world has moved on, and it is now very busy dealing with the immense challenges and opportunities facing it in Zone B. And no, neither Russia nor China is busy trying to sabotage or undermine the USA – US leaders are doing that much better job of that than any Russian or Chinese ever could . So why even bother (and nevermind the risks!)?

We cannot predict what will happen next, there are simply too many variables to do that. But what we can do is predict with a great degree of confidence that the new regime in power in DC will do no better than all the other regimes which came to power by means of color revolutions in the past couple of decades. There is no hope left for the Empire, as for the USA, there will be plenty of hope left for them, but only after a long and painful process of collapse and rebirth (both of which are inevitable by now). The truth is that US is not that unique as empires go, sorry, it is just your typical arrogant and narcissistic empire which will collapse just as all the other arrogant and narcissistic empires in history have collapsed, mostly under their own obscene weight . And those poor souls who sincerely believe that China (or Russia) want to replace the USA simply don't understand that these two countries already have been empires, it was a disaster, thank you very much, and they have no desire to repeat their past mistakes. This desire for non-exceptionalism and normalcy will, with time, also become the object of a large social consensus in the USA. And, with time, the USA will finally be welcomed into a truly free Zone B or, should I say, a Zone-free world.

[Jan 20, 2021] How neoliberal Dems deceived Georgia voters promising them 2000 dollars with no intention to deliver

Trump would probably won if he managed to give people 2K checks. But Trump cares about "deplorable" even less the neoliberal Dems.
Jan 20, 2021 | www.youtube.com


SupraMedical68
, 10 hours ago

Neo-liberals would never lie to the people. 🙄

Michael James , 10 hours ago

FYI, they don't care about you. They will do whatever they want, whenever they want and there is nothing you can do about it. Enjoy your scraps

J OTowner , 10 hours ago

He hasn't even been inaugurated and I'm already sick to death of hearing about creepy, corrupt "Uncle Joe".

Danny Martinez , 8 hours ago

It's weird that these people are such bad negotiators that they diminish their negotiating posture BEFORE negotiating. Why not demand the full $2000 and have the republicans be the obstacle to it? It's so stupid and makes no sense


Robert E
, 10 hours ago

Its Biden you took his word and conveyed it to people. He is a career liar you just spouted his words. Your no liar sir but you are naive for believing in Biden and telling others they could too.

[Jan 19, 2021] Michigan Forensic Report on Dominion Voting READ IN FULL - Liberty Nation

Jan 19, 2021 | www.libertynation.com
  1. The Antrim County Clerk and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson have stated that the election night error (detailed above by the vote "flip" from Trump to Biden, was the result of human error caused by the failure to update the Mancelona Township tabulator prior to election night for a down ballot race. We disagree and conclude that the vote flip occurred because of machine error built into the voting software designed to create error.
  2. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's statement on November 6, 2020 that "[t]the correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals tape .. . ." was false.
  3. The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity.
  4. The results of the Antrim County 2020 election are not certifiable. This is a result of machine and/or software error, not human error.
  5. The tabulation log for the forensic examination of the server for Antrim County from December 6, 2020consists of 15,676 individual events, of which 10,667 or 68.05% of the events were recorded errors. These errors resulted in overall tabulation errors or ballots being sent to adjudication. This high error rates proves the Dominion Voting System is flawed and does not meet state or federal election laws.
  6. These errors occurred after The Antrim County Clerk provided a re-provisioned CF card with uploaded software for the Central Lake Precinct on November 6, 2020. This means the statement by Secretary Benson was false. The Dominion Voting System produced systemic errors and high error rates both prior to the update and after the update; meaning the update (or lack of update) is not the cause of errors.
  7. In Central Lake Township there were 1,222 ballots reversed out of 1,491 total ballots cast, resulting in an 81.96% rejection rate. All reversed ballots are sent to adjudication for a decision by election personnel.
  8. It is critical to understand that the Dominion system classifies ballots into two categories, 1) normal ballots and 2) adjudicated ballots. Ballots sent to adjudication can be altered by administrators, and adjudication files can be moved between different Results Tally and Reporting (RTR) terminals with no audit trail of which administrator actually adjudicates (i.e. votes) the ballot batch. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity because it provides no meaningful observation of the adjudication process or audit trail of which administrator actually adjudicated the ballots.
  9. A staggering number of votes required adjudication. This was a 2020 issue not seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency or audit trail. Our examination of the server logs indicates that this high error rate was incongruent with patterns from previous years. The statement attributing these issues to human error is not consistent with the forensic evaluation, which points more correctly to systemic machine and/or software errors. The systemic errors are intentionally designed to create errors in order to push a high volume of ballots to bulk adjudication.
  10. The linked video demonstrates how to cheat at adjudication: https://mobile.twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1336888454538428418
  11. Antrim County failed to properly update its system. A purposeful lack of providing basic computer security updates in the system software and hardware demonstrates incompetence, gross negligence, bad faith, and/or willful non- compliance in providing the fundamental system security required by federal and state law. There is no way this election management system could have passed tests or have been legally certified to conduct the 2020 elections in Michigan under the current laws. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures - Michigan requires full compliance with federal standards as determined by a federally accredited voting system laboratory.
  12. Significantly, the computer system shows vote adjudication logs for prior years; but all adjudication log entries for the 2020 election cycle are missing. The adjudication process is the simplest way to manually manipulate votes. The lack of records prevents any form of audit accountability, and their conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software. Removal of these files violates state law and prevents a meaningful audit, even if the Secretary wanted to conduct an audit. We must conclude that the 2020 election cycle records have been manually removed.
  13. Likewise, all server security logs prior to 11:03 pm on November 4, 2020 are missing. This means that all security logs for the day after the election, on election day, and prior to election day are gone. Security logs are very important to an audit trail, forensics, and for detecting advanced persistent threats and outside attacks, especially on systems with outdated system files. These logs would contain domain controls, authentication failures, error codes, times users logged on and off, network connections to file servers between file accesses, internet connections, times, and data transfers. Other server logs before November 4, 2020 are present; therefore, there is no reasonable explanation for the security logs to be missing.
  14. On November 21, 2020, an unauthorized user unsuccessfully attempted to zero out election results. This demonstrates additional tampering with data.
  15. The Election Event Designer Log shows that Dominion ImageCast Precinct Cards were programmed with new ballot programming on 10/23/2020 and then again after the election on 11/05/2020. These system changes affect how ballots are read and tabulated, and our examination demonstrated a significant change in voter results using the two different programs. In accordance with the Help America Vote Act, this violates the 90-day Safe Harbor Period which prohibits changes to election systems, registries, hardware/software updates without undergoing re-certification. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures - Michigan requires full compliance with federal standards as determined by a federally accredited voting system laboratory.
  16. The only reason to change software after the election would be to obfuscate evidence of fraud and/or to correct program errors that would de-certify the election. Our findings show that the Central Lake Township tabulator tape totals were significantly altered by utilizing two different program versions (10/23/2020 and 11/05/2020), both of which were software changes during an election which violates election law, and not just human error associated with the Dominion Election Management System. This is clear evidence of software generated movement of votes. The claims made on the Office of the Secretary of State website are false.
  17. The Dominion ImageCast Precinct (ICP) machines have the ability to be connected to the internet (see Image 11). By connecting a network scanner to the ethernet port on the ICP machine and creating Packet Capture logs from the machines we examined show the ability to connect to the network, Application Programming Interface (API) (a data exchange between two different systems) calls and web (http) connections to the Election Management System server. Best practice is to disable the network interface card to avoid connection to the internet. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity. Because certain files have been deleted, we have not yet found origin or destination; but our research continues.
  18. Because the intentional high error rate generates large numbers of ballots to be adjudicated by election personnel, we must deduce that bulk adjudication occurred. However, because files and adjudication logs are missing, we have not yet determined where the bulk adjudication occurred or who was responsible for it. Our research continues.
  19. Research is ongoing. However, based on the preliminary results, we conclude that the errors are so significant that they call into question the integrity and legitimacy of the results in the Antrim County 2020 election to the point that the results are not certifiable. Because the same machines and software are used in 48 other counties in Michigan, this casts doubt on the integrity of the entire election in the state of Michigan.

[Jan 17, 2021] America 2.0- After the election by Dmitry Medvedev

It is interesting that former Russian President highlighted criminal behaviour of US Internet monopolies, who became political players.
Jan 17, 2021 | www.rt.com

... the US citizens themselves have called into question their country's conformity with the main criterion of democracy – the ability of the state to ensure fair and transparent expression of the people's will in general.

This is an urgent issue the United States has to deal with. The nation is divided, the fault line running between people of different value orientations, which reflect on the electoral choice between Republicans and Democrats. There is a clear "value divide" between conservative Americans and those who promote change in traditionalist attitudes, between "law-abiding" Americans and those who support active street protest, between those employed in high-tech industry and those left out of the technological revolution. Besides, the election race laid bare the tensions between the federal government and state and local governments. Accusations against the federal government of exceeding its authority in using force to suppress riots have exposed cracks in American federalism, which the central government (regardless of party affiliation) prefers to conceal as far as possible.

There have also been large-scale violations of the election law. The United States still has no standard procedures for voter registration, voter identification, ballot issuance and submission. According to the nonprofit organization Judicial Watch, by September 2020, 29 out of 37 states had 1.8 million more registered voters than actual eligible voting-age citizens. This is largely due to the fact that there is no such concept as a domestic passport or some kind of residence registration in the US, so when shifting their place of residence, people often fail to remove themselves from the voter list. In addition, there were occasions of people who had long since died having voted for one of the candidates. However, courts found no evidence that such cases had been widespread – they were often down to the fact that other family members have similar names, which led to errors in the voter records. Statistics show that there were 153 million registered voters in the US in 2018, with more than 20 million entries in the voter rolls being out of date. According to the California Globe, an NGO, there were nearly half a million such entries in California alone in 2020. In this context, a large-scale campaign was launched urging voters to update their data in the voter lists.

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The most acute situation arose as a result of the mass postal voting, which brought Joe Biden a reported majority during the counting of ballots. It is not even that Democrats created a controversial opportunity to gain votes from a passive part of their electorate, using the pandemic as an excuse. They encouraged a more active use of the mail-in voting procedure, which had been widely used only in some states during previous campaigns. According to Donald Trump, this paved the way to uncontrolled machinations.

Thus, on the eve of voting day, the Democratic Party allegedly attempted to change the procedure for counting postal ballots in the states of Wisconsin, Indiana, North Carolina, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa and Alabama in order to considerably lengthen the period of their acceptance. This made it possible to relax the monitoring requirements for vote-counting. Consequently, once the voting was over, the Republicans almost immediately announced that they were filing lawsuits in connection with violations registered in 40 states.

Lawyers representing the Republicans found it unsound that so many states had continued to count the votes for several days after voting day. They had some serious questions as to the legitimacy of accepting the late ballots. Nevertheless, courts rejected most of the filed lawsuits even in Republican states.

All of this is hardly consistent with those norms of democracy that Washington arrogantly imposes on other countries. For instance, US officials in the OSCE constantly point to the need for the OSCE participating states to comply with the recommendations by the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) drawn up based on the results of its election observation activities. In the meantime, the US itself fails to act on the relevant recommendations, blatantly violating the provisions of para. 8 of the 1990 Document of the Copenhagen Meeting of the Conference on the Human Dimension of the CSCE and para. 25 of the 1999 Charter for European Security stipulating the obligation to invite observers for monitoring national elections.

Since 2002, the ODIHR election observation missions in the US have recommended in their final reports that international observers be provided with access to all states at the federal level. However, that is not what we see in reality. Besides, the archaic US electoral system is such that the US federal government has no powers to establish procedures even for federal elections as this is the prerogative of the states. Just as when America was a farmers' republic with a population of 3.5 million, the president is still elected by the states, which inform the Congress of their decisions through the electoral college.

During the popular vote in 2016, the ODIHR did not have access to polling stations in 17 states. The international observers, who showed legitimate interest in the elections on the voting day, faced threats of arrest and indictment. In the 2020 popular vote, the number of "inhospitable" states reached 18. Only five states and the District of Columbia have legal provisions in place ensuring international election observation. In all other states, it remains at the discretion of the local authorities and is quite unpopular.

The lengthy disputes over the election results in courts (and, at the end of the day, electing a new president there) is yet another fact demonstrating how inefficient and outdated this voting system is. In the 2000 campaign, the votes cast for George W. Bush and his Democratic opponent, Al Gore, in Florida were recounted multiple times. It was the Supreme Court that had the last word, ruling that the vote recounting should stop, which meant the victory of George W. Bush – even though many Americans still doubt the validity of that decision. But at the time, such a timely consensus between the Republicans and the Democrats was exactly what was needed to quickly stabilize the situation.

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The enormous costs associated with such a voting system have by now practically erased the word "consensus" from the vocabulary of the American political elite. Just recently, no one could imagine – not even in their worst nightmares – that all these partisan differences would lead to the storming of the Capitol, whose first foundation stone was laid by the first US president, George Washington. The attack carried out by pro-Trump protesters while the Congress was counting votes not only appalled national governments all over the world but provoked bloodshed in the country, which was only recently seen by many as the gold standard of democracy. It was hard to believe that the events resembling so much Ukraine's Maidan and other color revolutions that unfolded in recent years across a wide range of countries, including those in the post-Soviet space, were broadcasted live from the United States all over the world.

The techniques previously used by Washington for democratization of other countries backfired. The cold civil war that had been raging in the US for a few months reached its climax. And while the world is condemning the attack on the Capitol, anxiously waiting for what is to come next, it is as yet unclear how the Republicans and the Democrats are supposed to find common ground. The social polarization keeps growing. The long-forgotten spirit of McCarthyism is again felt in the air. And there is no one who could answer the question: are there a person and a timeless value that could unite the nation. The situation that has been brought about by a chain of events predetermined by the archaic voting system can lead to new waves of violence and unrest. On the other hand, the American political system has proved its flexibility over the course of centuries. I am sure this time it will cope, too.

There is one more critical issue which, in the context of the outdated American electoral system, has moved extremely high up the agenda. I am talking about the unprecedented role in public politics of social networks and new media, and, accordingly, of private IT companies that own those platforms. Conventional American media, whose activities are regulated by laws and fall within the First Amendment, have traditionally – and always officially – taken the side of a certain candidate and yet deemed it necessary to give coverage to statements made by the opponent during election and post-election campaigns. The social media, however, are beyond any special regulations and work on the basis of user agreements. And it was them that unleashed the media war without rules! And that war is waged against one single person.

During the vote counting, Trump's posts on Twitter, where he has over 85 million followers, were flagged as potentially misleading and later even hidden. The events in the Capitol resulted in the unprecedented and permanent suspension of Trump's accounts on all social media – where he has a total of about 200 million followers. Noteworthy is that the tone of the posts that provoked the suspension of Trump's accounts was not much different from his narrative of the preceding weeks. Next, they blocked tens of thousands of supporters of the incumbent president across all kinds of platforms which used to be viewed as forums for a full-fledged discussion.

For America, just as for the rest of the world, this level of corporate censorship is a truly extraordinary phenomenon. A question arises: who are those supreme judges that decided that they, of their own volition and based on their own rules – but, in fact, guided by their political preferences, can deprive the country's president of the opportunity to communicate with an audience of many millions? Whether Trump is good or bad, he is his country's national, and, furthermore, an official who enjoys the trust of nearly half of Americans. Thus, it turns out that several technological corporations located in California got an appetite for power and thought it possible to juggle with news and facts to suit their own political preferences. This is but a blatant censorship!

Dictating their own terms, they have sought to substitute for state institutions, encroaching on their mandates, aggressively imposing their views on a great number of people, leaving them no other choice; while the 75 million of Trump's voters and hundreds of millions of his subscribers were left out of their "choice." These were simply labeled as insecure. Isn't it, indeed, a spectre of cyber totalitarianism that is gradually overwhelming society, taking away from it (and potentially the entire world) the opportunity to see the reality for what it is? But even if Donald Trump leaves politics for good and the tech giants wipe out his digital footprint, the minds will remain hugely polarized. This is yet another problem stemming from the US's outdated voting system, and it will push governments of different countries into action to prevent the same scenario in their own states.

Given the special place of the US in the architecture of international relations, all this makes us try and guess the impact of the elections on the "classical" world politics as well as economy. It is crystal clear that the elections influence direct trends in global development. Everything else, with certain reservations, can be regarded as an internal affair of the US itself. Yet outward effects are our common issue. Let me remind you that George W. Bush's victory back in 2000 caused significant, though short-term, volatility on stock markets. It is equally possible after the current shock, which of course provides considerable grounds for concern. But the long-term stability of the US dollar will be largely determined by the resilience of institutions for the protection of property rights, the demand for American goods and services in the global market, as well as the predictability and independence of the Federal Reserve System (FRS), which underpins the confidence in the US dollar. US dollar volatility will abruptly increase only if US manufacturers lose a considerable share of the world market or investors doubt the existing safeguards for the protection of assets, the relevance and soundness of the FRS's long-term policy. Since this is impossible in the near future, it seems of much more interest to us what Joe Biden's economic policy will look like. And this is often shaped based on the thesis "just not the way Trump would have it." It's some sort of a tradition: the same way, the 45th president without hesitation reversed the 44th President Barack Obama's directives on all tracks.

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It is obvious that the development of a national legal and political system is the sovereign choice of a state itself, though many countries (and first of all the US) are seeking to impose their model of development on the world as the most effective. Certainly, there is no legal and political system that can be called the monument of "classical" democracy. It is constantly developing and improving. The question is, how relevant and timely the models that are offered as a replacement for those that have lost their progressive potential are. And here what we need is a combination of sound conservatism and well-timed new laws. Both artificial preservation of and constant experimentation with political and legal realities pose a danger. The post-Soviet nations have the examples of both, state regimes sometimes transiting from the presidential system to parliamentary and back once every two or three years.

Governments in many countries are posing questions about the policy continuity of such an important actor in world affairs as the US. The 2016 elections shattered the century-long tradition of continuity of the administrations, particularly in foreign policy issues. This time, again, the US' stance on a range of key issues depends on the election results. Where shall we witness a reverse in policy, a getting-around to approaches adopted by Barack Obama and his predecessors' administrations? Let us take a look at the critical issue of fighting against the coronavirus. The 2020 candidates' opposing viewpoints regarding the danger of Covid-19 will lead to an expanded scope and increased stringency of pandemic-related measures implemented in the US as one of the main short-term effects of the election outcomes. This will influence the lives and health of Americans as well as the well-being of citizens in neighboring countries and the US' allies. The polarization among citizens themselves, when you could tell with great certainty by the presence or absence of a mask which party the voter has voted for, was grotesque indeed.

The two candidates have adopted very different approaches when addressing relevant economic issues inside the country, which have a direct influence on the entire world. One should note, among many other things, that Donald Trump repeatedly commented on the FRS' activities that lay outside the mandate of the head of state. This caused a certain dollar skepticism in view of a possible loss by the FRS of its actual independence of the executive power, which triggered a discussion on the excessive dependence of trade on the US dollar even among the US' allies in the EU. The reaction of American markets and the actual recognition by Donald Trump of his defeat was clearly reflected, for example, in the S&P 500. November 2020 turned out the best November for the main US stock market index. And for the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the month was the best since 1987. The indices were undoubtedly influenced by the positive news about vaccines against Covid-19, but the growth began immediately after the election results were announced.

Support for international organizations (WHO, WTO, and others) turned into a bargaining chip in the presidential election results issue. For decades, the US has increased its weight in these organizations. And until recently, the attitude toward them has not depended on a certain administration in the White House. These elections will inevitably lead to the restoration of the US' full membership and the development of cooperation within international organizations such as the WHO and the WTO. The outgoing administration has been notorious for its abrupt and hardly predictable demarches regarding its participation in such associations, which certainly destabilized their work. Yet the US's financial support is crucial and very significant for them.

Even more important is the US' participation in international arms agreements, such as the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF), the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START III) and the Treaty on Open Skies (OST), as well as in different integration alliances, climate accords and many others. As in the case of international organizations, the US is trying to restore to a certain extent its image as a reliable strategic partner. Election pledges to extend the START III treaty with Russia which Biden called "an anchor of strategic stability between the United States and Russia," sound very optimistic. The president-elect is an advocate of arms reduction and has been involved in drafting the INF Treaty since the Soviet era. One of the election campaign themes was that the US should not withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty, the World Health Organization and the Paris Climate Agreement – processes that have been set in motion in recent years.

By the way, the withdrawal of the US from the Paris Agreement and its expected new accession to it is one of the clearest and most recent examples of political turmoil. There is now a tectonic change in the very basis of economic activity. A new economic order is taking shape. States and individual companies are reshaping their models to be carbon neutral, carrying out rigorous assessment of their business chains starting from suppliers in some countries to consumers in others. Global investors are rethinking their strategies. International organizations are shaping new reporting standards that will obviously apply globally. Finally, most recently the UN Secretary General called on all nations to rethink their tax strategies by cutting taxes on income while raising taxes on carbon. All of these factors are of global importance. And the US position, or rather its floundering, can obviously create new global imbalances. Although everyone will adapt to them after a while, because, as T. Dreiser wrote, "you have to take things as they are and use them to your best advantage."

Building relations with their allies, especially in NATO, is another basic factor that directly influences the trajectory of international development. The Biden administration which is largely made up of the key figures from the Obama administration has already assured its European partners that full cooperation within the North Atlantic Alliance will be restored. The US is expected to drop its claims about the disproportionately small contribution of Europeans to NATO funding and the imbalance in military budgets, which have been repeatedly voiced by the Trump administration. Time will show to what extent the trust of the US European allies will be regained. But it is clear that the US foreign policy somersaults over a relatively short period of time will not go unnoticed.

Even on the issue of interaction with China the candidates have managed to take generally opposing positions. Although both share the opinion that China is America's main competitor. As part of the election campaign, Biden's rhetoric toward China was significantly more peaceful in comparison to Trump's promises and actions. However, trade restrictions imposed by the Trump administration may remain in place in the new circumstances if the situation requires so. The experience of the Jackson-Vanik amendment and other sanctions laws shows that such restrictions can persist for a long time, even after the reason for their imposition has disappeared.

We expect it is highly likely that the United States will consistently pursue an anti-Russian policy. In recent years, the trajectory of relations between Washington and Moscow has been steadily going downhill, no matter who was at the helm in the White House. There was indeed some hope of reversing the negative dynamics during the Trump presidency. After all, back in 2016, it seemed that relations between the two countries could not be any worse than those under B. Obama. However, the following years have dispelled this illusion. The Trump administration consistently strengthened the systemic confrontation between Washington and Moscow, continued its sanctions policy against our country wishing, inter alia, to force it out of the energy markets, and reduced our diplomatic contacts to a minimum. And this was done against the background of D. Trump constantly speaking about the desire to "get along with Russia." His words did not matter much, however, as numerous restrictive measures in Congress were supported by both Democrats and Republicans.

Biden has not yet said anything positive about Russia. On the contrary, his rhetoric has always been openly unfriendly, harsh, even aggressive. He has repeatedly stated that "Russia is the biggest threat to the United States in terms of undermining our security and alliances." Nothing more, nothing less. Moreover, the Democrats' team includes politicians who hold similar views and have no interest whatsoever in improving relations between Moscow and Washington.

Russia, on the contrary, is ready to work with any US president, ready to restore cooperation in a wide range of areas. However, we can hardly expect any reciprocal steps from the new American administration. Our relations are likely to remain extremely cold in the coming years. And right now we do not expect anything but the continuation of a tough anti-Russian policy. But perhaps Biden will revisit the issues still on our joint agenda, for example arms control.

I have listed only a few areas which will obviously be among those deserving special attention. Most importantly: the unpredictability of further US actions in the international arena, a kind of toxicity of this country even for its allies and partners is a result of serious social upheavals that American society faces. This internal and external instability is largely due to a clumsy, hopelessly outdated voting system that has seen no major changes since the 18th century up to the present. And the last election turned out to be not a political competition of ideas that the US had always prided itself on, but rather a confrontation between two campaigns of hatred.

We do not want the US to have problems. And for practical reasons: such problems create waves of instability all around that overflow us as well. The problems of the United States can only be solved by the Americans themselves along with the good governance of the country. One of the founding fathers of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, rightly noted that "the whole art of government consists in the art of being honest." Any election is the most important test of such honesty. Of course, only Americans themselves can decide whether to put aside their national selfishness and launch the voting system reform, and, consequently, the reform of political life, or not. So far, there has been no real move toward this. Nor even the slightest hint of a desire to change anything. And the international community is already paying too high a price for the US' reluctance to change.

Dmitry Medvedev served as Russia's president from 2008 to 2012 and prime minister from 2012 to 2020. He has been deputy chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation since January 2020.


apothqowejh 8 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 09:04 AM

An interesting underlying premise of the article is that government is actually about enacting policy. It appears to me, living in the cheap seats, that the purpose of government, while ostensibly about policy, is really to rob its subjects blind while concealing the theft and crushing dissent.
jake234 15 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:31 AM
The former president of Russia is able to write an essay. Whether you agree with him or not, the sentences in this article have weight; and you have to mull what he says over in your mind. Compare this with the soundbites of US presidents.
Observatory jake234 6 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 11:10 AM
President Medvedev has been and apparently somehow remains an idealist/naive man as confirmed by the essay above. Just a babe in the woods of politics.
TheFishh jake234 9 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 08:01 AM
The rhetoric of US presidents has deg
Ligov 10 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 07:23 AM
Given that America is the most influential state in the world, that is, it practically influences everything that happens in the world, then obviously everyone around the world is not indifferent to what is happening in America, especially in its dominant group, the aspen's nest. And what happens there, as all honest people in the world, including the Americans, guess, are clearly dubious things. To stir up this hornet's nest is a noble cause. And the success of this business will determine the well-being of the whole world. May honest Americans striving to clean up their homes feel the support of the world.
Hassam275 16 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 01:32 AM
Its been said that American elected officials are like passengers on a train who come and go, yet the conductor is the non elected establishment politicians loyal to foreign agendas who are extensions of special interest lobbies. That is why policy never changes, though the illusion of democracy is maintained. Now that a large number of citizens caught on to this scheme, the propaganda arm of the establishment, the media, attempts to brand these citizens racists or traitors in an attempt to use fear and shame as thought control. This only makes the masses more enraged and the unfortunate ones are the law enforcement officers who are stuck protecting the establishment. Also unfortunate are the politicians who actually care about their constituents whose lives are also endangered. So violence isnt the way out. The deep state must be exposed.
MotorSlug conformista 5 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 12:10 PM
the US has never been a democracy, that's the last thing the rich, white, land and slave-owning framers wanted. they were scared to death of equality and human rights. France and Russia today have a better grasp on reality than you do
costelmagik 15 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:14 AM
America 2.0, after election and before it is just suggest the fast approaching the end of the Empire ,a lot worse then before the election considering the division between Americans , the fraud through the election and the economic and financial collapse which in his last legs.
Jonathan E 9 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 07:41 AM
The American population has an 'uphill battle' to acquire a functional democracy because they are under the 'heel' of a powerful Plutocracy which has firm control of a powerful Media.
GottaBeMe 6 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 11:19 AM
"According to the nonprofit organization Judicial Watch, by September 2020, 29 out of 37 states had 1.8 million more registered voters than actual eligible voting-age citizens." US democracy is a sham.
MiloDiddlbomb Andy0 2 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:52 PM
Actually I lived just outside NYC during 9/11 I had to go to NYC the week after and what struck me was the absolute silence. NYC is normally crazy noisy but for a couple months you didn't even hear a car horn. The actual divide openly happened when Trump looked like he actually had a shot at winning. And in my opinion it wasn't Trump himself but the fact that an outsider might get let in. Then the political machine started to create this insanity we now have. In a way you are right. What Trump brought into the sunlight was the hate middle America had for 20+ years of war. The people on the coast as a rule have nothing to do with the military since the draft ended - The majority of military people have been coming from Middle America. Plus the fact that any of the wars could have been easily won - except where the future in that? More money is made just dragging them out in stalemate. A lesson learned in Vietnam where it became obvious the money was in keeping the conflict going. Generals don't care. Most have never seen one day of combat.
Ibmekon 13 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 04:11 AM
"We do not want the US to have problems." Oh yes we bloody well do ! They will not dismantle their empire witout the collapse of the dollar. Even today the gravy boat of Democrats are fighting to keep thousands of their army of occupation in Afghanistan - against the wishes of their own electorate and President.
Bjarne Örn Hansen 17 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 12:33 AM
First of all, americans aren't too smart. That the US had a backup system to put a finger on the election scale, should have been obvious to anyone with an iq above 0. No power, let's the mob decide it's future. It will always have an ace up its sleeve ... but using this system, should be done in emergency only and should one time deal, done at the peril of the politicians using it. What americans do from here, should be restore the union and remove all politicians and parties that were involved ...
9/11 Truther Bjarne Örn Hansen 15 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 02:32 AM
The majority of American schools, colleges, and mainstream media are specifically designed to result in people who "aren't too smart". The " thumb on the election scale" is phase #2.
Gio Con 1 hour ago 16 Jan, 2021 04:36 PM
So basically, the US needs to update its method of screwing the people.

[Jan 17, 2021] 'A grave error'- Dominion gets victory as American Thinker offers up retraction apology for election reporting

Sites and people who posted Hugo Chavez nonsense should pay the price. Which is good.
Also capabilities to produce weighted votes does not mean that it was deployed. But if it is present it serve as a Damocles sword over the integtiry of election, as you never can be sure whther is was somehow activated or not. And so far there is no convincing facts that it was deployed. Looks like most common method was staffing of mail-in ballots by corrupt staff.
But Dominion tabulators do create concentration of ballots in one place, which automatically, completely by the fact of creating the "critical mass" of ballots in one place facilitates larger scale fraud . From this point of view they can be regarded as catalysts. That' is undisputable.
The way sysadmin roles were assigned by Dominion, how such activity is controlled, and what people are selected is open to review as those people automatically become powerful players in the election process and are outside usual safeguards, which were developed for traditional systems. In no way they can be controlled by election observers. That's the fact.
In case the machines were internet connected all Dominion employees with access to them also become election players. As well as all interested intelligence agencies.
Jan 15, 2021 | www.rt.com
Conservative blog American Thinker has issued an apology in response to Dominion Voting Systems' lawyers accusing them and others of defamation for pushing claims their technology helped rig the presidential election.

In a Friday statement written by editor and publisher Thomas Lifson, American Thinker admitted their stories on conspiracy theories surrounding Dominion machines being rigged in Joe Biden's favor were based on "discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories about Dominion's supposed ties to Venezuela, fraud on Dominion's machines that resulted in massive vote switching or weighted votes, and other claims falsely stating that there is credible evidence that Dominion acted fraudulently."

Lifson called the statements "completely false" and added that "Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately."

The company went on to apologize for any "harm" their stories caused the company and their employees.

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"We also apologize to our readers for abandoning 9 journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion's track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error," they added.

The apology also names Andrea Widburg, R.D. Wedge, Brian Tomlinson, and Peggy Ryan as specific contributors who have covered conspiracy theories surrounding Dominion.

On the same day as the apology, the conservative blog also shut down its comment section, but provided no solid reason as to why.

Pieces published by American Thinker presented theories that the machines deleted pro-Trump votes and that it was tied to outside foreign and political groups, common theories that have been pushed by President Trump, his legal team, and supporters.

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Dominion has taken more aggressive action recently against accusations against them, even suing Trump lawyer Sidney Powell for defamation to the tune of $1.3 billion.

The company's legal team has also targeted other right-wing media, warning Fox News recently that action is "imminent" in response to numerous statements made on the network by anchors and guests like Trump counsel Rudy Giuliani. They also sent letters to individual anchors for Fox and Newsmax demanding they "cease and desist" making defamatory statements about the company and its alleged role in rigging the presidential election, an act they say has no proof to back it up.

In response to the threatened litigation, Fox News aired a segment multiple times shooting down voter fraud claims linked to Dominion.

Newsmax, meanwhile, released a statement clarifying many conspiracy theories linked to Dominion and Smartmatic, another vote counting system threatening legal action.

[Jan 17, 2021] DOJ hasn't seen evidence of 'systemic' election fraud, says AG Barr because it hasn't been looking, Trump lawyers reply

How one defines systemic fraud? Actually the role on Internet giants in 2020 election represent systemic fraud. Also is not "simple fraud" not enough for DOJ to take a look. Or "simple, one time fraud" now is welcomed by DOJ?
Main-in ballot fraud looks systemic to me with documented well coordinated efforts to weaken protections on the part of DNC lawyers.
The situation with the observers suppression is a real scandal painting the USA as a banana republic.
Dec 01, 2020 | www.rt.com
US Attorney General Bill Barr told AP that the Department of Justice has not seen evidence of fraud on a scale that could change the outcome of the election, but President Donald Trump's attorneys claims it never even looked.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," the agency quoted Barr as saying on Tuesday. He said both federal prosecutors and the FBI have been looking into specific complaints but found nothing that would change the media consensus that Democrat Joe Biden defeated Trump earlier this month.

Trump's lawyers, led by Rudy Giuliani, have launched a series of legal challenges in places like Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia, challenging large amounts of mail-in ballots they say weren't properly verified. They've also claimed votes were cast by dead people, observers weren't allowed to observe the counts, and other irregularities.

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Barr said there was only one claim of systemic fraud – that voting machines were programmed to shift millions of votes – "and the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven't seen anything to substantiate that." While he did not name any names, this was a claim made by Sidney Powell, an attorney not directly affiliated with the president's legal team, in her lawsuit in Georgia.

"With all due respect to the attorney general, there hasn't been any semblance of a Department of Justice investigation," Giuliani responded on Tuesday, accusing the DOJ of not interviewing any of their sworn witnesses and refusing to audit voting machines or subpoena officials.

Barr did tell AP that most of the complaints about the election ought to be handled by state and local officials conducting audits, rather than making a federal case out of everything.

"There's a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and people don't like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and 'investigate,'" he said.

Within days of the election, Barr had authorized the DOJ to follow up on "substantial allegations" of irregularities with the vote, arguing it was "imperative that the American people can trust that our elections were conducted in such a way that the outcomes accurately reflect the will of the voters."

Democrats, US mainstream media and social media platforms have been united in insisting there had been no "widespread" voter or election fraud, labeling all of Trump's claims to the contrary as "baseless" or "disputed."

[Jan 17, 2021] "79% of Americans think the US is falling apart" those not accounted for are possibly homeless or illiterate and don't have the opportunity of putting their view forward

Highly recommended!
In the reality the USA is not falling apart. It is neoliberalism that is falling apart and this is just how common people feel during the collapse of neliberalism.
Jan 17, 2021 | www.rt.com

OneHorseGuy 1 day ago 15 Jan, 2021 02:17 PM

"79% of Americans think the US is falling apart" those not accounted for are possibly homeless or illiterate and don't have the opportunity of putting their view forward.
RTaccount 1 day ago 15 Jan, 2021 02:22 PM
There will be no peace, no unity, and no prosperity. And there shouldn't be.
TheFishh RTaccount 1 day ago 15 Jan, 2021 03:38 PM
The US regimes past and present have worn out their bag of tricks. A magician is a con-man. And the only way they can entertain and spellbind the crowd with their routines is if everyone just ignores the sleight of hand. But people are starting to call the US out for the tricks it is pulling, and that's where the magician's career ends.
SJMan333 23 hours ago 16 Jan, 2021 01:02 AM
America as a whole is now reaping the fruits of its decades of exceptionalism complex. Through its propaganda machine, Americans as individuals and collectively as a society, have been brainwashed into believing that laws, rules and basic human decency do not apply to themselves. These are only sweetened poisons for them to shove down the throats of other lesser countries, especially those in Africa, Latin America, Middle East and Asia ((bluntly put, non-white countries)) when it suited America's global resource thievery and daylight wealth grabbing. Habitualized into bullying every other countries with no resistance, Americans are now showing their ugly faces on each other. The same exceptionalism delusion "the laws apply to you, not me'' is driving every American (except the colored Americans probably) to blame all the ills of the country on everyone else except himself. Nancy Pelosi advocated total lock-down but treated herself to a total grooming in a hair saloon is just one example. For the sins it has committed over the decades, I guess the time is right for USA to have a dose of its own medicine. Except in this case, America never thought it necessary to develop an antidote.

[Jan 15, 2021] Dominion machines depend of the level trustworthiness of their administrators. In hands of evil/corrupt administrators they automatically become a catalyst of election fraud

Jan 15, 2021 | www.unz.com

sayless , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:21 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago

"I don't know or care anything about Dominion voting machines"

Why not? Take a look at Patrick Byrne's summary of evidence for massive election fraud involving the Dominion machines, on his blog over at DeepCapture.

It will explain how a man who sheltered in his house, did not campaign, drew no more than six or seven or twenty-five people to his events, got seven million more votes than a man who drew up to thirty thousand people at his rallies.

...An expert witness in Georgia was able to hack into Dominion in front of the legislative committee in less than a minute. "We're in." In Dominion, and on the internet.

Dominion machines can do anything! They can assign a weight of 1.5 per single vote to one candidate, and .75 per vote to the other, and can adjust as necessary. They can assign batches of "adjudicated" ballots to the candidate of your choice. They can just switch votes from one candidate to the other in increments of several thousand, let's subtract 29,000 votes from candidate a and add them to b's column. They can allow access by a third party to the administrator's identity and password so the third party can enter and participate directly in tabulation of the votes.

And more. If your disfavored candidate is winning by a landslide and your 1.5/.75 ratio isn't working, you can put in a USB card and adjust accordingly.

If you're desperate you can upload tens of thousands of votes in a single drop which all, every one, go to your preferred candidate. And you can do it in one hour on a machine which can only handle a few thousand votes per hour, fed in manually.

[Jan 15, 2021] All pure d j vu this is exactly how the color revolutions work it is the art of winning elections by fraudulent means. The US bombers arrive only if the peaceful transition of power (aka the stealing of election) fails

For anybody who listened to state hearings in one or more state if is clear that there was widespread fraud. And its importance is much larger then the question who won the elections
Notable quotes:
"... Multiple methods of attack on the election outcome have been prepared, all methods well planned, tried and perfected in the string of color revolutions around the World. Because those attacking Trump are the same as those who have been doing the "regime changes" in the vulnerable countries over the past 30 years. ..."
"... The playbook/manual is fully symmetrical – it always addresses both possible outcomes – if their side does not manage to steal the election then they incite an insurrection and oust the winner (the Viktor Yanukovych outcome). ..."
"... It is funny how few people appear to understand that Hunter's laptop was not just a suppressed election decider then an important reason for Biden's suitability – the insurance of ensurance, the media ready Kompromat. ..."
"... Finally, it is very important to keep in mind that none of what transpired would have been possible in a healthy country ..."
"... Maybe it was hostility towards Trump's supporters rather than hostility towards Trump. Trump is a reliable pro-immigration ultra-Zionist rabidly pro-LGBT liberal. The views of a large proportion of Trump's supporters are diametrically opposed to Trump's own views, but his supporters aren't smart enough to figure that out. ..."
"... whatever else Trump may be, he's no white nationalist. But again his supporters can't figure stuff like that out. ..."
"... In extreme situations, it's more important to win than to play by the rules. – This is the moral reasoning **** of the fraudsters. The basic equation they applied is so simple that it hurts (and therefore: worked perfectly well – in all of the West) ..."
"... In the Art of Winning Elections it did not take a genius to develop this solution – the lowest number of night-suitcases (filled with ballots) for the highest number of elector votes . ..."
"... In my mind the election was already unfair when you have the entire MSM and the Internet social media companies rooting for one candidate while attacking the other and banning/censoring the voices of his supporters under various pretexts. Both candidates and their supporters, should have been given equal exposure but I don't know how that could be achieved in practice. ..."
"... At a minimum the circumstantial evidence of vote counts being stopped in swing states along with gerrymandered rules was highly suspicious. To claim a mandate on such a close election while losing house seats is absurd but the Republicans bungling the Georgia Senate run off over $2K checks and a sycophantic MSM ensures they will. ..."
"... We are to believe Biden won 507 counties, the least EVER, but won the most votes ever. Trump won 74 million votes, beating Obama's 69 million in 2008, the previous all-time high. Trump won over 2500 counties. ..."
"... Strange that all these presidential elections are always neck and neck. Just because there are two parties does not mean that election after election the vote will boil down to one or two "swing states" and a few thousand votes. Statistically, it just doesn't make sense. ..."
"... This is strong evidence, if not proof, that these elections are scripted from beginning to end ..."
"... The convenient thing about postal votes is that they make it possible to wait until the opponent's votes are all in and counted – then send in just enough postal votes to tip the balance. It's rather like an auction in which one bidder gets only the one bid, and then a rival can offer $1 more. ..."
"... Well said. I'm sure that it's no coincidence that DJT has been involved with televised wrestling over the years. Every great contest requires a memorable "heel" to engage the spectators. In televised snooker in the UK, final matches often are over best of 35 frames. It's unusual for them not to go to the last ball of the final frame. Got to have a little drama. ..."
"... The point is, it is the average intellect, moral and civic weight of the involved constituencies that allows or doesn't allow what shouldn't be allowed in a real democracy. You don't have actual democracy below a lower threshold of intellect and moral and civic worth of all the main involved parties. ..."
"... When you consider Donald Trump's grotesque antics, his entirely unpresidential behavior, evident falsehoods and blatantly corrupt actions – together with the systematic media blitz taking every opportunity to show him in the worst possible light; it is quite astounding that he received as many votes as he did. Far, far more than could be accounted for by simply ascribing them to his 'deplorables'. ..."
"... I think Trump's greatest legacy will be that he ripped away the curtain and the masks fell and we all got to see just how nefarious and rigged the system is, from federal judges to our intelligence community to the FBI/DOJ to Congress to the media ..."
"... Dominion machines can do anything! They can assign a weight of 1.5 per single vote to one candidate, and .75 per vote to the other, and can adjust as necessary. They can assign batches of "adjudicated" ballots to the candidate of your choice. They can just switch votes from one candidate to the other in increments of several thousand, let's subtract 29,000 votes from candidate a and add them to b's column. They can allow access by a third party to the administrator's identity and password so the third party can enter and participate directly in tabulation of the votes. ..."
"... They won the election the old way: they stole it fair and square. ..."
"... If you like your bourgeois job and want to keep it, you will support the narrative. ..."
"... All of the comments on here that analyze DJT's strengths and weaknesses miss the point. I personally think he made some very poor choices; but, to inappropriately paraphrase Carville, it's the fraud, stupid. ..."
"... Occam's Razor should be applied- instead of the nonsense of Chavez having an interest in voting software; voting machines being manipulated; truckloads of paper ballots being moved across state lines- my favorite; etc. ..."
"... t would be very easy to have individuals in a nursing home or even an adult day care center for mentally (dementia) incapacitated adults sign ballots. There are numerous day care centers in New York City, federally funded, where individuals could be coaxed to sign ballots. Just say Trump will close the day care center -- especially where interpreters must be provided because the individuals cannot understand English due to varying stages of mental incapacity. ..."
"... I wonder how many people have watched the twenty hours or so of state legislature hearings related to the election. Can people just not be bothered? These were historic hearings of huge importance, but I assume they didn't get much coverage in the MSM. I think most of them were livestreamed only by small right-wing networks. ..."
"... What were the results of the 2016 election? Billary received 65 million to Trumps 62 million. Gotcha. So we have roughly 127 million who showed up to vote that time. (Wonder how many of those were legit.) So ONLY 4 years later, Joe "I Look Like I'm Drugged" Biden ALLEGEDLY received 80 million and Trump received 74 million. Okay, that is a turnout of 154 million votes. So if I believe in this fairy tale, I was supposed to believe that in ONLY 4 years the vote count increased by an alleged 27 million. Hell, a lot of our most populous states do not even have that many people. ..."
"... Laws don't say a little bit of fraud is OK, because the fraud committed on or by a business didn't cause bankruptcy. Either there was fraud, or there wasn't. ..."
"... That several courts refused to hear cases for lack of standing, is patently ridiculous. If a candidate has no standing, who does? In an election, everybody has standing because they are affected by the result, and by virtue of Citizens United , corporations do as well. ..."
"... Watch this recent interview of Chris Hedges by Jimmy Dore about the root causes of our current woes. Hedges speaks off the cuff in words that sound as polished, powerful and precise as the language in tracts considered to be classics. His Pulitzer clearly was not found in a Cracker Jack box. ..."
Jan 15, 2021 | www.unz.com

Kiza , says: January 15, 2021 at 7:51 am GMT • 10.2 hours ago

Before the election I polled all my friends who would win. The majority of both left and right oriented said that it would be Trump. I said, yes Trump would win a fair election, but he will lose on who is counting. Multiple methods of attack on the election outcome have been prepared, all methods well planned, tried and perfected in the string of color revolutions around the World. Because those attacking Trump are the same as those who have been doing the "regime changes" in the vulnerable countries over the past 30 years. Trump never had a grain of chance against this mighty machinery. Corrupt local governors and blackmailed and co-opted all levels of judiciary, targeted lawlessness, threats and examples of violence and future civil war if the other side wins, censorship, eviction of election observers, night-time suitcases of ballots, one-sided main sewerage media.

All pure déjà vu – this is exactly how the color revolutions work – the art of winning elections. The US bombers arrive only if the "peaceful transition of power" (aka the stealing of election and post-election) fails. In the color revolution manual, there is also a chapter on prevention of resistance to the stolen election – thus the msm and congress screeching like castrated pigs against Trump's imaginary incitement of insurrection (pure psychological projection). I was always sure that Trump is too much of a cheap demagogue and hot air filled balloon to be able to initiate a real insurrection.

The playbook/manual is fully symmetrical – it always addresses both possible outcomes – if their side does not manage to steal the election then they incite an insurrection and oust the winner (the Viktor Yanukovych outcome).

... ... ...

In political terms, in the 2016 election a quasi-populist candidate slipped through. This will never happen again because state laws will be enacted with built-in mail voting and electronic voting machines. Competent or incompetent populists will never get through again. This will ensure that the choice will always be only between the approved, controllable candidates with plenty of skeletons in wardrobes and dirty laptops in their closets. It is funny how few people appear to understand that Hunter's laptop was not just a suppressed election decider then an important reason for Biden's suitability – the insurance of ensurance, the media ready Kompromat.

Finally, it is very important to keep in mind that none of what transpired would have been possible in a healthy country : election of Trump without enough Kompromat to have to invent the dumbest Putin's puppet meme and the consequent exposure of the manipulative Deep State, the sulfuric acid for the brain MSM and the high-techs fakers. These are all the Hegels' seeds of destruction in action.

dfordoom , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 8:04 am GMT • 10.0 hours ago
@anonymous

One thing to ask is why was this huge effort made to oust Trump?

Maybe it was hostility towards Trump's supporters rather than hostility towards Trump. Trump is a reliable pro-immigration ultra-Zionist rabidly pro-LGBT liberal. The views of a large proportion of Trump's supporters are diametrically opposed to Trump's own views, but his supporters aren't smart enough to figure that out.

dfordoom , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 8:07 am GMT • 10.0 hours ago
@anon

Because Trump inflames white nationalism

Which is hilarious because whatever else Trump may be, he's no white nationalist. But again his supporters can't figure stuff like that out.

Dieter Kief , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:11 am GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@A123

In extreme situations, it's more important to win than to play by the rules. – This is the moral reasoning **** of the fraudsters. The basic equation they applied is so simple that it hurts (and therefore: worked perfectly well – in all of the West): Trump = Hitler.

**** If I might go with Sigmund Freud here, I'd say: – Their rationalizations instead of "their moral reasoning".

Cthulu Smith , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:11 am GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@anon

I prefer this model, and it's not being discussed: Someone was making BIG money off of those programs and policies leftover from Obama. Trade with China? Care to mention one BIG company who peddles Chinese wares? Maybe two or three of them, perhaps?

"Follow the money", is what Deep Throat told Woodward. If we do that with our darling Deep State? Just ask yourself, who stood to benefit from four years of Hillary, pray tell? There's your answer.

Kiza , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:14 am GMT • 9.9 hours ago
@A123

The Deep State regime stole this election in exactly the same states where Trump successfully campaigned in 2016 to win against Clinton. In the Art of Winning Elections it did not take a genius to develop this solution – the lowest number of night-suitcases (filled with ballots) for the highest number of elector votes .

Commentator Mike , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:32 am GMT • 9.6 hours ago

Thanks for a balanced assessment. In my mind the election was already unfair when you have the entire MSM and the Internet social media companies rooting for one candidate while attacking the other and banning/censoring the voices of his supporters under various pretexts. Both candidates and their supporters, should have been given equal exposure but I don't know how that could be achieved in practice.

Trump was severely hamstrung by the role played by the MSM and the social media. In a real democracy this state of affairs should not be allowed: where the rich and powerful who control the media have an unequal say and overwhelming influence compared to the ordinary voters.

SurfingUSA , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:48 am GMT • 9.3 hours ago

Now we have Ruby Freeman, heretofore only on video rolling out suitcases in Fulton County, now on AUDIO discussing her $100 an hour election heist gig and the "Secretary of State" is mentioned at 2:02 by her boss Ralph Jones:

https://thedonald.win/p/11S0bp78qW/georgia–ruby-caught-on-video-wi/c/

Sirius , says: January 15, 2021 at 8:54 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago

There is a small element of illogic in the numbers part of the argument, namely in using 2 different metrics to make that argument. (I agree with the corruption part of the argument covered by Glenn Greenwald. It's censorship in action).

As I've done before, I'll reiterate, I'm no fan of Biden or Trump. In fact I'm worried about the war cabinet Biden already seems to be assembling just as I still worry about the crazed maniac Pompeo for the next few days left in the current administration.

But here's the point and it is a very subtle one: to say it was a tight race and only 1 in 7,000 Americans had to change their vote is a bit misleading. In the absurd Electoral College, winner take all the state system (which is far more scandalous in my view), we take one state at a time. If we accept the vote count, Biden won over 7,000,000 more votes more than Trump, a margin of victory of 4.4%. Not very close.

Therefore, if it were a one person one vote nationwide system, 2.2% would have to change their minds, meaning 1 out of every 45 Americans.

But it's a state by state margin that we're after. Thus more to the point would be to take each individual state and its margin. So if we took Georgia as one example, the margin of Biden's lead was 11,779 votes out of 4,935,487 votes cast for Biden and Trump (we disregard all the third party votes in this argument). 5,890 voters would have to "change their minds". Out of the Biden/Trump overall vote, that's 1 out of 838 Georgian voters.

To apply a different system, overall US vote count, to one state, Georgia, is using which system you prefer to come up with an illusionary 1 out of 7000 Americans, not applying the same metric down the line. It's a separate state by state system, not a nationwide vote. You have to stay consistent to be accurate in this method of argumentation.

Very technical, yes. What about mail-in voting? What is the evidence that this is by definition rigged or manipulated? Mailed ballots have a paper trail like in-person ballots. Presumably someone could steal your ballot from your home and vote on your behalf, but this can be traced and found out. At least one state, Washington, doesn't even have in-person voting at all. Does that mean all of their votes are fraudulent?

What about voter suppression? Shouldn't that be factored in? That seems to happen a lot more often in red states than blue states. What about Trumps attempts to sabotage the US Postal System? Doesn't that bother anybody who supports him? What about his refusal to commit to the results prior to Election Day? (He did the same in 2016 by the way). This only added to his opponents concern about his dictatorial tendencies.

Finally, in all the arguments I've seen anywhere, I haven't seen anyone lay out which states use those ridiculous electronic voting machines which leave no paper trail. That should be the other real scandal and those should be immediately banned in every state. Get rid of those and the Electoral College and we might have a fair system.

Oh, and get rid of a system that is eternally dominated by 2 parties as well, whether through run off elections or even better, proportional representation. The latter that would be truly more democratic.

fatmanscoop , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:06 am GMT • 9.0 hours ago
@anonymous

why was this huge effort made to oust Trump? What did they want him to do that he wouldn't do? Was he an impediment to the increase of control over the average person? Did not want to start up another action against Syria? Would not attack Iran without having a coalition of NATO countries lined up? Was against total outsourcing to China? Not confrontational enough against Russia? Perhaps he gave the deplorables dangerous ideas about them having some rights. If that question could be answered then we'd know what is coming.

He humiliated the upper echelons of society so thoroughly via his 2016 campaign and victory.

sarz , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:10 am GMT • 8.9 hours ago
@anon Because Trump inflames white nationalism, which is anathema to the Jews.

There is evidence that Trump himself is a Jew, and a fanatic Zionist at that, so his self-serving incitement of white nationalism (whose causes he did little to implement, unlike his steady support for every imaginable Israeli cause, tbe more outrageous the better, short of war with the "usable" nukes he had had developed for the purpose, that Russia warned him away from) was especially galling to the top Jews such as the Rothschilds for whom Israel is nothing sentimental, just one more piece in their chess game for world power.

Hamilcar , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:15 am GMT • 8.8 hours ago

Thank you Ron.

And thank you for this site which is a beacon of free speech and dissent against our vile, corrupt, incompetent ruling class.

In all the post election rancor little attention has been brought to how razor thin the margin actually was. And with you being a vociferous critic of Trumps boorish antics and insane foreign policy the candor on this issue is appreciated.

At a minimum the circumstantial evidence of vote counts being stopped in swing states along with gerrymandered rules was highly suspicious. To claim a mandate on such a close election while losing house seats is absurd but the Republicans bungling the Georgia Senate run off over $2K checks and a sycophantic MSM ensures they will.

And after abetting barbaric violence and anarchy for months the Democrats will now use trespassing in their "Sacred Temple" to unleash a crackdown by the national security state and unprecedented censorship and social-credit run by woke-corporate oligarchs.

Interestingly (And as many predicted) it appears they will reopen the economy and declare "victory" over Covid shortly after Bidens inauguration. Clearly the bizarre excesses of the lockdowns and dynamiting of the economy were calculated to undermine Trump and consolidate wealth and power from the start.

The question is what exactly this "new normal" will be and how far they're willing to go in order to purge the Trumpists and populist right. It will be easy to garner support for the latter but if the daily disruptions and financial shocks continue the system will collapse.

A new, large scale war would be a useful distraction but it's hard to imagine the U.S sustaining one in its current state much less against capable adversaries like China and Russia.

Then again, arrogant, idiotic, catastrophic policy blunders are the defining feature of this ruling class for the last 30 years so I wouldn't put it past them given the madness we've seen already.

sulu , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:21 am GMT • 8.7 hours ago

In effect, America's media and tech giants formed a united front to steal the election and somehow drag the crippled Biden/Harris ticket across the finish line.

And what ethnic group owns America's media?

thotmonger , says: January 15, 2021 at 9:51 am GMT • 8.2 hours ago
@ruralguy

adjustment via a plastic bag put over their heads. If they were lucky.

There was no real contest. Because? A. Control of the mainstream media was so one sided. And that is where we are at now here in USA. Imagine, a standing President of the USA has been banned and censored by all the "American" mainstream media giants. Actually, you do not have to imagine. It just happened: Big Tech and MSM has openly torpedoed the First Amendment and US Constitution. So we know where they are coming from. It's also kind of disappointing how most of our "representatives" are dealing with this.

Sirius , says: January 15, 2021 at 10:30 am GMT • 7.6 hours ago
@John Gruskos

The only cause other than himself on which Trump has been consistent is serving Israel. One of the only two major policies of Obama's that he didn't reverse was support of Israel, though he took it to yet another level. The other one was increasing military spendings. Obama never cut military spending. My money is on Biden never doing it either, and also that he will take support of Israel to yet another level. I hope I'm wrong.

Contraviews , says: January 15, 2021 at 10:39 am GMT • 7.4 hours ago

On the election night I was listening to two of our New Zealand reporters who were reporting the incoming results. I remember quite clearly after results had been coming in for a while they remarked: "well that's it another four years of the same". That were their exact words. That must have been before the postal votes came in, which suddenly changed the picture completely to Biden's advantage. Postal votes I believe were introduced for the first time in 2020 because of the Corona pandemic. It's believed that postal votes can be more easily tampered with. Postal votes are expected to remain during future elections I believe.

Anon [254] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 10:44 am GMT • 7.4 hours ago

We are to believe Biden won 507 counties, the least EVER, but won the most votes ever. Trump won 74 million votes, beating Obama's 69 million in 2008, the previous all-time high. Trump won over 2500 counties.

Clarice Feldman at the Americanthinker.com noted that many residences had multiple votes from the current occupants plus previous occupants (apartment complexes) in this election, because old voter rolls aren't purged in a timely manner. The same addy might have 3 previous residents voting, plus the same individual voters legitimately voting at their new addresses.

My advice for whites is this .we will probably be getting in new wars for neocons now, so you might wanna think twice before signing up for the military. You may find your twenties being used up in multiple deployments in foreign miserable places.

noname27 , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 11:00 am GMT • 7.1 hours ago

A very interesting interview by Brian Ruhe with Dennis Fetcho: https://www.bitchute.com/embed/a9AtcoEyDaPh

noname27 , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 11:05 am GMT • 7.0 hours ago
@shylockcracy

Only if the American people don't adopt the MAGA phenomenon and run with it as their own = The People's MAGA MOVEMENT – who needs Trumpstein?

Schuetze , says: January 15, 2021 at 11:16 am GMT • 6.8 hours ago

@nsa

Strange that all these presidential elections are always neck and neck. Just because there are two parties does not mean that election after election the vote will boil down to one or two "swing states" and a few thousand votes. Statistically, it just doesn't make sense.

Of course the media loves these nail-biter elections because it drives up their viewership. Every election we get the same old farcical "debates", scandals and continual ridiculous sound bites. This is strong evidence, if not proof, that these elections are scripted from beginning to end, even up to and including the "march to the Capitol" and the ensuing "insurrection".

onebornfree , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 11:32 am GMT • 6.6 hours ago
@Ash Williams

"Ron put a "I'm a reasonable man" spin on this"

Exactly. "Spin". He also appears to be entirely ignorant of the fact that the constitution states that each states electors, and the procedure for choosing them, must be accomplished via the state[s] legislatures, and that in all 6[?] swing states that recorded early morning, miraculous turn-around votes from Trump to Biden, that that particular constitutional procedure had been entirely , and very conveniently, ignored:

U.S constitution. Article 2 section 1:

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annamaria , says: January 15, 2021 at 11:57 am GMT • 6.1 hours ago
@Rational

https://thesaker.is/israel-united-states-unite-efforts-in-large-scale-strikes-on-iranian-infrastructure-in-syria/

The Lobby wants Syria by any means, up to a direct confrontation with the Russian Federation. The Jewish hatred for Iran is boundless (same for Russia – take note, Americans). Zionists care not about human lives.

Tom Welsh , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:08 pm GMT • 6.0 hours ago

"I don't know or care anything about Dominion voting machines, whether they are controlled by Venezuelan Marxists, Chinese Communists, or Martians. But the most blatant election-theft was accomplished in absolutely plain sight".

Cui bono? Obviously the main group profiting from the fraudulent election was the Democratic Party and its supporters. So why drag in foreign governments? Most of them are all too well aware that it's very dangerous to attract the attention of the USA for good or bad. Like trying to save a drowning whale.

So their sensible strategy is to stand back at a safe distance and watch the monster perish in its own poisons, hoping it doesn't lash out and harm them in its dying struggles.

Tom Welsh , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:13 pm GMT • 5.9 hours ago
@Contraviews

The convenient thing about postal votes is that they make it possible to wait until the opponent's votes are all in and counted – then send in just enough postal votes to tip the balance. It's rather like an auction in which one bidder gets only the one bid, and then a rival can offer $1 more.

Ridiculous if you want a fair election. But nobody who matters wants or expects anything of that kind. A proper political machine gets everything cut and dried well in advance.

Trump was unpredictable and, to a degree, uncontrollable. He had to go.

Cortes , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:17 pm GMT • 5.8 hours ago
@Schuetze

Well said. I'm sure that it's no coincidence that DJT has been involved with televised wrestling over the years. Every great contest requires a memorable "heel" to engage the spectators. In televised snooker in the UK, final matches often are over best of 35 frames. It's unusual for them not to go to the last ball of the final frame. Got to have a little drama.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch the rancher counts the silver dollars.

Timur The Lame , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:40 pm GMT • 5.4 hours ago

...If ego or narcissism can explain it, so be it. I'll go with insane or suffering from dementia. Any 'drain the swamp' or 'fix the system', MAGA or "build back better" argument would appeal only to retards. Re-visit Carroll Quigly's succinct description of political parties in the USA in Tragedy and Hope, pages 1247-1248 (hardcover) or Google same.

I'm beginning to believe that a different species is holding sway and we are the proverbial Eloi.

atlantis_dweller , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:41 pm GMT • 5.4 hours ago
@Commentator Mike

The point is, it is the average intellect, moral and civic weight of the involved constituencies that allows or doesn't allow what shouldn't be allowed in a real democracy. You don't have actual democracy below a lower threshold of intellect and moral and civic worth of all the main involved parties.

We could in other words say: there will be as much real democracy as is desired by the average citizen, where to desire it is not to blandly say "I agree with democracy".

atlantis_dweller , says: January 15, 2021 at 12:49 pm GMT • 5.3 hours ago
@Kiza

It is funny how few people appear to understand that Hunter's laptop was not just a suppressed election decider then an important reason for Biden's suitability

Yes, few people understand that all regime-approved candidates are people able to be blackmailed for a precise reason, and not at all by chance. What about Hegel though?

Getaclue , says: January 15, 2021 at 1:31 pm GMT • 4.6 hours ago
@obvious Globalist NWO creeps stole the election, they spent 4 years trying to overthrow the 2016 election by coups aided and abetted by the Globalist Mainslime Media, FBI etc. -- you missed all that of course? .

They also PUBlICLY previewed, as they did the COVID Agenda, stealing the election a couple months before, gamed and planned it in various outcomes .Anyone who can't see what is up is either willfully ignorant, lying, or "stupid" as you say.

No decent person is in favor of the Agenda of Harris/Biden serving the NWO "Great Reset" to crush the Peons -- you must see yourself as above the coming carnage -- I have news for you -- your not.

Johnny Smoggins , says: January 15, 2021 at 1:46 pm GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@ruralguy

We'll know we're in an actual civil war when different branches of the military, or units within a branch are fighting each other or when the police are fighting the military. Don't hold your breath of course because every cop and soldier in America is a traitor and they're all on the same team.

Garliv , says: January 15, 2021 at 1:51 pm GMT • 4.2 hours ago
@atlantis_dweller

What I still find unfathomable is the fact that the steal was so obvious: so in your face but yet the big media, big tech, federal and state law enforcements, spooks, judges, big GOP politicians etc still behave like nothing ever happened. Trump and his supporters are now labeled domestic terrorists and lawfare is about to be unleashed on them. It's surreal.

Sick of Orcs , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:09 pm GMT • 3.9 hours ago

Had the Orange heeded his MAGA base rather than his (((rat-in-law))) he'd still be President. There was certainly election fraud; enough of the betrayed base stayed home to make it effective. Trump was a p -- y all four years and got what he deserved. He was always a stop-gap time-buying non-solution...

Emslander , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:20 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago
@Reg Cæsar

...issues can no longer be discussed openly, the reliability of elections in the USA is the most important issue that faces us. The people will accept an honest winner in a serious election. Nothing is as cleansing to our natural divisions as the result of a well-contested election, in the knowledge that, in a reasonable interval, the same offices will be up for new contests.

Nothing is as damaging to our peace of mind as knowing that one side won fairly, but was robbed of governing. I thank Ron Unz for writing and publishing such a reasonably argued essay on the matter. It is the gold standard for 2020 election analyses.

Trinity , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:25 pm GMT • 3.7 hours ago

This is sad people. Was talking to a friend and even his 80 something year old mother commented on how decrepit Sleazy Joe looks and walks. I was watching him deliver "his speech" last night and the guy had a hard time reading a few sentences off the teleprompter without stammering and stuttering.

After an embarrassing and truly cringe worthy "speech" Biden is seen walking off. The dude can barely walk...

Temporary Insanity , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:36 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago

For eighty million who cast their ballots for the old geezer, it's mostly out of economic necessity; however, for the seventy plus million people who are Trump supporters, it's a fight for their country and more importantly, culture.

anon [263] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:42 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago

Weimerica!!!

Brought to you by the same people who gave us the Weimar Republic, only twice as vicious and vindictive this time because they know what they did wrong last time -- they weren't vicious and vindictive enough.

Albertde , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:44 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago

In a healthy country, there would have been no need for Trump.

macilrae , says: January 15, 2021 at 2:59 pm GMT • 3.1 hours ago

When you consider Donald Trump's grotesque antics, his entirely unpresidential behavior, evident falsehoods and blatantly corrupt actions – together with the systematic media blitz taking every opportunity to show him in the worst possible light; it is quite astounding that he received as many votes as he did. Far, far more than could be accounted for by simply ascribing them to his 'deplorables'.

And, even if Biden did, in fact, just manage to win – presenting himself as a force of reason, stability and sanity – a great mass of voters sensed something in him that they distrusted even more than in Trump. That was a stunning rejection – of almost the same magnitude as Hillary's in 2016!

Old and Grumpy , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:05 pm GMT • 3.0 hours ago
@John Gruskos

You're right, and Ron Unz is right. Had Trump retained his white male voters of 2016, the Democrats likely couldn't have pulled off the steal. But in the end Donald Trump was a mere salesmen selling a con.

Ashley H , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:16 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

...If you had told people in France in 1785 or Russia in 1913 that within a few short years about a quarter of their population would be slaughtered in revolutionary turmoil and many more displaced, they would have dismissively laughed in your face believing – as do we – that their civilizations were far too advanced for such nonsense.

Let us hope such a horrific fate is not in store for all of us as the Great Reset is imposed on us all given how western civilization has clearly failed to the point where some sort of profound, substantive reform is inevitable.

Given that the foundation of this Reset comprises so much ill-will, deception, theft and coercion, it is unlikely that this new paradigm will benefit the millions of people it will soon dominate.

lysias , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:19 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

...Interesting book on Brit intelligence in the U.S. in 1940: Thomas Mahl's "Desperate Deception."

Anonymous [164] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:20 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago
@John Gruskos

Another can of worms, there would be additional Congressional hearings over it, etc. At the time Trump was still in the middle of the Muller investigation. That special prosecutor investigation tied up Trump until March 2019.

I firmly believe that no man in human history could have taken on and fought Deep State, the Swamp, the Establishment, media, GOPe, et al., as valiantly as Trump. Even in his 70's the man has superhuman energy, fortitude, and strategizing. I think Trump's greatest legacy will be that he ripped away the curtain and the masks fell and we all got to see just how nefarious and rigged the system is, from federal judges to our intelligence community to the FBI/DOJ to Congress to the media

sayless , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:21 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago

"I don't know or care anything about Dominion voting machines"

Why not? Take a look at Patrick Byrne's summary of evidence for massive election fraud involving the Dominion machines, on his blog over at DeepCapture.

It will explain how a man who sheltered in his house, did not campaign, drew no more than six or seven or twenty-five people to his events, got seven million more votes than a man who drew up to thirty thousand people at his rallies.

...An expert witness in Georgia was able to hack into Dominion in front of the legislative committee in less than a minute. "We're in." In Dominion, and on the internet.

Dominion machines can do anything! They can assign a weight of 1.5 per single vote to one candidate, and .75 per vote to the other, and can adjust as necessary. They can assign batches of "adjudicated" ballots to the candidate of your choice. They can just switch votes from one candidate to the other in increments of several thousand, let's subtract 29,000 votes from candidate a and add them to b's column. They can allow access by a third party to the administrator's identity and password so the third party can enter and participate directly in tabulation of the votes.

And more. If your disfavored candidate is winning by a landslide and your 1.5/.75 ratio isn't working, you can put in a USB card and adjust accordingly.

If you're desperate you can upload tens of thousands of votes in a single drop which all, every one, go to your preferred candidate. And you can do it in one hour on a machine which can only handle a few thousand votes per hour, fed in manually.

If things get out of control you can call a halt to the vote count, send the observers home, and haul out the extra ballots stashed under the table skirt. But it's best to be mindful of the video cameras. Which they were not.

Really, read about it: Patrick Byrne, DeepCapture, "Evidence That The 2020 Election Was Rigged." Lays out the various ways by which it was done, then appends evidence using graphs, memos from election administrators, and statistical analysis.

He's no Trump supporter either, is a committed libertarian, and has never voted for either a Democrat or Republican presidential candidate in his life. He thinks Barack Obama graced the presidency and that Michelle Obama was a class act as First Lady.

Also: The Chinese government acquired Dominion for $400 million in the fall of 2020.

The King is a Fink , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:26 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago
@A123

I found this interesting (posted by another commenter back in Nov):

https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

Finally, does anyone think the Dominion case against Sydney Powell potentially offers an opportunity for the evidence of electoral fraud to be aired in public?

Jeff Davis , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:31 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@utu

They won the election the old way: they stole it fair and square.

anon [954] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:35 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago

While it's an effective rhetorical tactic by our fearless leader Unz, there's no reason to be agnostic about CIA ballot-stuffing. That's as blindingly obvious as their censorship.

https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

The ballot-stuffing shows only the most cursory measures to conceal it, consistent with a command structure that exercises precision control over media attention. CIA can censor adverse information on their candidate's trading in influence and abuse of function. So naturally CIA dumped votes in statistically absurd proportions, trusting to their Mockingbird media to short-circuit public inquiry. When you have arbitrary Nazi-grade life-and-death power, as CIA does, it's hard not to get sloppy. They don't give a fuck that you saw what they did there, cause shut up.

Jeff Albertson , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:37 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago
@Tom Welsh ent-text">

Spot on about postal votes; it's my only slight disagreement with Ron's take on the affair. These votes were being received for days, if not weeks before the deadline and could have been (and probably were) counted as they came in. The gross imbalance between Trump and Biden votes in these after-hours counts, along with the sudden spikes obvious on many graphs, is proof, imo, of the cheat. In order to get ahead of the narrative, the 'rats said it would happen, and, lo, it did.
If the regime can't provide for trustworthy elections, it can't expect to be regarded as legitimate. Probably by design; they don't need us.

Ashley H , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:49 pm GMT • 2.3 hours ago
@The King is a Fink

Navarro's three reports do a good job of summarizing most of the possible vote fraud. He's a Harvard PhD so more than qualified to pull all the date together etc. They use many graphics and are easy and fast to read.

Ashley H , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:51 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago
@The King is a Fink

In this post-Republic new reality, no Court will take a case in which Discovery reveals any sort of election fraud. The election is over and it's now verboten to revisit it. Don't be surprised if archive.org is forced to delete thousands of articles about it. Orwellian times

utu , says: January 15, 2021 at 3:57 pm GMT • 2.1 hours ago

Incumbent Donald Trump lost Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin by such extremely narrow margins that a swing of less than 22,000 votes in those crucial states would have gotten him reelected. With a record 158 million votes cast, this amounted to a victory margin of around 0.01% . So if just one American voter in 7,000 had changed his mind, Trump might have received another four years in office. One American voter in 7,000

Margins of general vote do not matter. Biden won Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin by much higher margins than 0.01%. In Arizona Biden won by 0.3% of all votes in Arizona and in Georgia by 0.2%. These are small margins but probably comparable to margins in swing states in 2016 where Trump won.

Scut Farkus , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:05 pm GMT • 2.0 hours ago
@Garliv It's for your own good, of course. I once read an article written by someone who had a chance to hang out with the rich, powerful, famous, etc. and gain some perspective on their thinking. They really do believe that it's their role to shape the future for the proles. I know someone who's just like that.

If you like your bourgeois job and want to keep it, you will support the narrative.

All of the comments on here that analyze DJT's strengths and weaknesses miss the point. I personally think he made some very poor choices; but, to inappropriately paraphrase Carville, it's the fraud, stupid.

edward manfredonia , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:19 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago

Ron,

Occam's Razor should be applied- instead of the nonsense of Chavez having an interest in voting software; voting machines being manipulated; truckloads of paper ballots being moved across state lines- my favorite; etc.

The mail in ballots could be sent to a nursing home or to individuals, who are very old, and these individuals could be instructed by a relative to sign their name.

I frequently explain to individuals, whose first language is not English, the papers, which they are signing. I explain their 401K and retirement plan withdrawals.

It would be very easy to have individuals in a nursing home or even an adult day care center for mentally (dementia) incapacitated adults sign ballots. There are numerous day care centers in New York City, federally funded, where individuals could be coaxed to sign ballots. Just say Trump will close the day care center -- especially where interpreters must be provided because the individuals cannot understand English due to varying stages of mental incapacity.

The day care center is a racket. I believe the reimbursement rate under Medicaid-Medicare is $120 per day. Plus, the transportation fee - approximately $40 per person each way. These centers flourish in cities, such as New York City, Newark, Philadelphia, etc. I have yet to hear anyone mention that Nancy Pelosi's father was Mayor of Baltimore, Thomas D'Alesandro Jr. And Baltimore is one city that it totally devastated by drugs, prostitution, crime, etc.

Now for the important question. Did Nancy Pelosi have $12 pints of ice cream in her office?

Thank you.

Edward Manfredonia

RudyM , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:30 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago
@Ash Williams

The Navarro report is a useful summary.

But I wonder how many people have watched the twenty hours or so of state legislature hearings related to the election. Can people just not be bothered? These were historic hearings of huge importance, but I assume they didn't get much coverage in the MSM. I think most of them were livestreamed only by small right-wing networks.

anon [437] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:31 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago

Servant of Gla'aki 39, Hapalong 101 anent Willke: Willke sold a million books in less than two months. He was more of a media phenom than Trump, much hotter at the time of the election. They were going to make a movie of One World. And his message was more populist, too – basically, fuck your US national interest, we want peace and freedom. He just came out and said what everybody thought, Oh boy, now that we won the war, we'll get the peace and freedom that we fought for! So he didn't need a Sheldon or a Gina to rig elections and install him.

Dulles was squirming around under rocks at that time (he cut his teeth at the League of Nations founding,) even before he and his ultras got their Gestapo in Foggy Bottom, and they arranged Hillary-style party machinations to push Willke aside.

Now of course there's a second line of defense, the CIA proprietaries that steal the election directly:

https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/11/15/short-history-election-fraud/

Diebold and its brass-plate acquirers. CIA set them up to ratfuck Kerry and Maduro and sheep-dipped them to ratfuck Trump.

The whole world knows the USA is a ridiculous fake democracy, a totalitarian CIA pariah state voting alone against peace, development and human rights. (Just look at the 2nd Committee vote on A/C.2/75/L.4/Rev.1) The USA is North Korea with an ugly leisure squad. It's the beltway that deserves our fire and fury. Just wipe it out with WMD and start again.

https://www.rt.com/usa/364288-us-election-international-standards-osce/

Trinity , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:42 pm GMT • 1.4 hours ago

What were the results of the 2016 election? Billary received 65 million to Trumps 62 million. Gotcha. So we have roughly 127 million who showed up to vote that time. (Wonder how many of those were legit.) So ONLY 4 years later, Joe "I Look Like I'm Drugged" Biden ALLEGEDLY received 80 million and Trump received 74 million. Okay, that is a turnout of 154 million votes. So if I believe in this fairy tale, I was supposed to believe that in ONLY 4 years the vote count increased by an alleged 27 million. Hell, a lot of our most populous states do not even have that many people.

Like I say, I concede that Biden might have had about 60-65 million LEGIT votes to Trump's MINIMUM of 74 million. Hmm, so that means that total vote count would be 134-139 million. Hmm, sounds more reasonable to me. Numbers are not adding up folks.

Robert Dolan , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:45 pm GMT • 1.3 hours ago

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/huge-despite-total-media-blackout-78-trump-voters-believe-election-rigged-stolen/

A123 , says: January 15, 2021 at 4:48 pm GMT • 1.3 hours ago
@The King is a Fink

There is a considerable amount of crowd sourced reporting on electoral fraud collected here: https://hereistheevidence.com

They also have a special section for issues related to the Capitol Protest (not riot): https://hereistheevidence.com/capitol-protest-1-6-21/

PEACE

Curmudgeon , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:02 pm GMT • 1.1 hours ago
@A123

...Laws don't say a little bit of fraud is OK, because the fraud committed on or by a business didn't cause bankruptcy. Either there was fraud, or there wasn't. If there was, then the results of the election in those areas are null and void. The certification of those results expands the fraud to the state level.

That several courts refused to hear cases for lack of standing, is patently ridiculous. If a candidate has no standing, who does? In an election, everybody has standing because they are affected by the result, and by virtue of Citizens United , corporations do as well.

David Martin , says: Website January 15, 2021 at 5:22 pm GMT • 43 minutes ago

https://dcdave.heresycentral.is/2021/01/07/the-big-guy-address/

Turk 152 , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:26 pm GMT • 39 minutes ago

In an ideal world, we would be discussing how we can ensure the integrity of our elections, so that both substantively and the appearance of integrity is upheld. Instead, we are trying to get citizens jailed (right & left) for protesting the sanctity of a system in which both sides know is corrupt. There is no question in Dems mind that Bush stole the election in 2000, so why is it any different now that the shoe is on the other foot.

Our oligarch rulers know very well that they rig elections, it has been documented under LBJ, not to mention the long list of coups all over the world organized by the intelligence agencies over the past 50 years, these are historical facts. But rather than citizens being able to focus on the real problem, we are beating the crap out of our fellow citizens for something we know all know is real; and pointing to the other side as the source of the corruption. This is exactly why the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

Anon [432] Disclaimer , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:29 pm GMT • 36 minutes ago

Mr. Unz, who is always well informed, highly organized and impeccably lucid, gives a credible and succinct analysis of the dumpster fire that is American politics, indeed of this country's leadership across the board. It creates mostly chaos and suffering every time it meddles in our affairs these days, certainly over the long run but especially in its current crash program to impose tyranny over the many so the few can take whatever they want whether they require it or not.

Watch this recent interview of Chris Hedges by Jimmy Dore about the root causes of our current woes. Hedges speaks off the cuff in words that sound as polished, powerful and precise as the language in tracts considered to be classics. His Pulitzer clearly was not found in a Cracker Jack box.

He ain't buying that Trump alone was the fount of all our sorrows or that a deceiving sycophantic grifter like Joe Biden is the fix for anything. There were many bad actors, both GOPers and Dems, both office holders and offstage string-pullers, who have contributed to the coming collapse of this country, which decapitating Trump will not prevent. Joe just happens to be the useful idiot who will be left holding the bag when the end comes, which won't be long now. Factoring in Kamala's possible ascension to the throne will change nothing. Like Joe, she's just a cluck there to take the same orders.

Schuetze , says: January 15, 2021 at 5:31 pm GMT • 34 minutes ago
@Carroll Price ...Trump also flew on the Lolita express. If after all the broken promises that Trump made to his Maga followers anyone still thinks that he is an outsider is, frankly, an idiot.

Trump is a lifetime actor and the entire election was just one big show.

One way we will know if Trump really was a threat to the swamp and an outsider will be what happens after Jan 20. If Trump ends up dead or impoverished and in prison then we will know that he was a real threat. If he flies off into the sunset, perhaps even starting a media company, then we will know that it was all one big vaudeville act.

[Jan 15, 2021] The Navarro report provides detailed proof on how elections in multiple states were stolen

Jan 15, 2021 | www.unz.com

A123 , says: January 14, 2021 at 11:36 pm GMT • 18.5 hours ago

The Navarro report provides detailed proof on how elections in multiple states were stolen. (1)

Open the [MORE] Tab for additional detail.

Given that all rational human beings understand, as a matter of objective proven fact, that the election was stolen Where do we go from here?

The slender & extreme, authoritarian, Leftoid margin in the House is certain to be a circular firing squad of internecine discontent. What little they pass will contain more pork than an industrial pig farm. It will be a matter of months before the U.S. Economy is tanked by SJW illegitimacy and misrule.

Much like the GOP beat Gerrymandering, with lead time the GOP will beat Fultoning (named after the Atlanta County). The GOP is sure to take the House in the 2022 elections.

How many times will Biden & Harris be Impeached, shamed, and forced to undergo public trial in the Senate? There will have to be multiple trials to establish for the historical record that Biden/Harris Coup plot was vastly more criminal than Nixon, Clinton, and Trump.

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Theft By A Thousand Cuts' Report Conclusive On Election Fraud, Slams Media Cover Up

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/navarro-report-conclusive-slams-media/

OUTRIGHT VOTER FRAUD IN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

BALLOT MISHANDLING IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES

CONTESTABLE PROCESS FOULS IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES

EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE VIOLATIONS IN THE SIX BATTLEGROUND STATES

2020 VOTING MACHINE IRREGULARITIES

STATISTICAL ANOMALIES IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES

[Jan 15, 2021] The Navarro Report Vol 3

Jan 15, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

John Gilberts , Jan 15 2021 1:29 utc | 58

The Navarro Report Vol 3

https://navarroreport.com

'Yes, President Trump Won: The Case, Evidence and Statistical Receipts.'

[Jan 14, 2021] A central rule of a color revolution is to avoid an "orderly transition". The new regime must have a revolutionary mandate instead of a democratic one. Only then can it operate outside the constitution and outside the law.

Jan 14, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Petri Krohn , Jan 13 2021 23:08 utc | 51

How to Un-Trump Four Years of Trump?

A central rule of a color revolution is to avoid an "orderly transition". The new regime must have a revolutionary mandate instead of a democratic one. Only then can it operate outside the constitution and outside the law.

The plan here is to declare not only Trump illegitimate but his whole administration illegitimate. The new regime can then undo all of Trump's executive decisions. There is no need to "stuff" the Supreme Court with extra judges. Simply declare Trump's appointments null and void.

[Jan 14, 2021] The refusal of neoliberal Dems to recognize Trump as President has merely set the tone for viewing Biden now as an illegitimate President who stole elections

Jan 14, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Ramon Zarate , Jan 14 2021 18:54 utc | 8

Anyone who thought voting in Biden was going to end the circus is sadly mistaken. The refusal of a large section of the population to recognize Trump as President has merely set the tone for a large portion of the population to think of Biden as illegitimate. If Biden uses domestic terrorism legislation to try to control the opposition it won't end well. Bring on the lions and Christians and any other unpopular section of the country.

norecovery , Jan 14 2021 19:05 utc | 9

A half century of downward mobility -- crippling of the real economy in which productivity was rewarded -- and neglect causing deterioration of infrastructure (including meeting basic human needs like health care), have brought the U.S. to a state of collapse.

Almost everyone seems to sense this and we feel powerless to rectify the situation through accepted channels, thus some people believe they have a 'patriotic' duty to use other means. The combination of disenfranchised minorities and disgruntled middle class becomes dangerous (to the established order) as soon as both groups realize they can't win by blaming and fighting each other.

We haven't reached that stage yet, judging from the comments I've read in the mainstream media, however it's just a matter of time until they do. The divide-and-rule political game keeps people attached to ideology of left vs right until it becomes clear that we all lose by adhering to this mode of thinking.

The war racket and a whole range of other exploitative financial policies are driven by the top echelon of elites, who also control the narratives through media propaganda.

Their game is failing and they're resorting to draconian control measures to prop it up, but this can't continue much longer.

As I see it, the collapse of the Western financial system could happen suddenly or gradually, or it could bring the ultimate destruction of human civilization. In any case, I believe our degradation of the natural world will be the real catalyst leading either to human extinction; or else if we're lucky and smart enough, will induce us to massively downsize our population and industrial activity in order to let the ecosystem heal itself.

karlof1 , Jan 14 2021 19:14 utc | 10
Giraldi's current essay hits on numerous points already brought forth by b and barflies, and IMO is a very well balanced look at the outcome and possible road that lies ahead.

The citation he opens with IMO gets to the heart of the matter of what's been building since the 2000 election and its Judicial Coup:

"In a recent article Catholic University professor Claes G. Ryn wrote [Link at original]

"Few people are really open to persuasion in any case -- not just on political subjects but on any subject about which they care and on which they have adopted certain views. Diehard partisans for a certain outlook will refuse to have their beliefs questioned, and so will many others. They will be no less dismissive of a document challenging their opinions if it is full of footnotes and appendixes. Such a document will, indeed, make them resist it even more. As for the relatively few people who are truly open-minded, they will not find another person's observations dispositive. They will, as they should, want to consider the evidence on a contested matter for themselves."

We experience the above daily here at MoA. IMO, economic reality will alter the equation once the eviction and foreclosure restrictions end unless some very enlightened legislation is proposed and enacted.

Tom , Jan 14 2021 20:06 utc | 18

Rep Jason Crow (Dem Colo) "I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues. ... A couple of them broke down in tears ... saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment."

The only thing they (RINO's, the non Trumpers) are afraid of loosing is their seat on the gravy train express. They are afraid of loosing their seat at the sleaziest brothel in the world, totally bought and controlled by powerful interest groups and foreign governments with Israel being by far the biggest one that controls that chamber. There, fixed it for you Mr. Crow. Rep Crow could well end up eating crow when this is all over.

Kooshy , Jan 14 2021 20:13 utc | 19

IMO a large number of his supporters like Pat Lang don't care much for him or his policies specially his Israel first policies, majority are America first conservative nationalist they will look for someone else to lead and reorganize, that's when this divide will become dangerous and scary. IMO that is the only reason they really didn't damage the building or even hide themselves behind mask they are not afraid of being identified.
That is even more scary for those who hope there wouldn't be a civil uprising challenge the establishment .

AntiSpin , Jan 14 2021 20:14 utc | 20

"The hostility the Democrats have show will create a huge backlash. Do they really believe that can suppress 74 million Trump voters?"

They don't have to suppress 74 million Trump voters. They don't have to suppress any of the Trump voters. They just have to hold on to the 81 million Democratic voters, and will probably be joined by a relative handful of Republicans who, out of disgust and anger at Trump, will cross over and join the Democrats.

Of course, if the mass of everyday, relatively uninvolved Democratic voters finds out the truth about the true past and about the true intents and purposes of the Biden-Harris wrecking crew, it's possible that some small percentage of them will stop voting and/or switch to minor parties, but it's unlikely that such a small desertion will swing any election to the Republicans, especially if the Biden administration is smart enough and loose-fisted enough to toss a few financial crumbs to the mass of unfortunates who are staring homelessness and starvation in the face.

One result of the eight-year Obama administration was a small group of Democrats who did exactly that -- they walked away while the vast majority of registered Democrats ignored Obama's long list of crimes and misdemeanors and pretended not to see or to know of his lies and betrayals of the working class. So the principled deserters are already gone, and those left in the party are hard-core, thick-headed party-above-principle-in-all-things grifters and groupies who will stick to the party through all manner of thick and thin circumstances. They're not going to participate in any "backlash."

gottlieb , Jan 14 2021 20:17 utc | 21

The Democrats have proven themselves complete idiots for years and years and years. The Republicans are batshit crazy. The last election from the Democratic POV was to remove what they perceive as an existential threat to 'democracy' which is another word for 'deep state.' It is no wonder the rush to judgment to confirm what they already believe about DJT. Critical thinking and common sense are not attributes the elite political class possess. They are all vainglorious grifters.

The USA is FUBAR and none of the king's horses and none of the king's men etc. etc. etc.

Mike from Jersey , Jan 14 2021 21:20 utc | 28
"The Democrats aren't stupid."

I am not sure about that.

Russiagate, Ukrainegate and now Insurrectiongate convinced a lot of Americans - and not just Trump supporters - that the system is broken.

If they keep up with this lunacy, people will conclude that the system is - not just broken but - irrevocably broken.

At that point, even police state suppression won't help them.

fyi , Jan 14 2021 21:24 utc | 30

Mr. Kooshy

The Trump supporters do not care that he is a murderer and a scoundrel as well as yet another US President that started yet another war against a Muslim country.

They think that US can survive a centuries-long war against Islam.

That is a major flaw in their estimation of US power and fragility of what they have in the United States.

1.2 billion Muslims, 1.2 billion Chinese, and a 130 million Russians believing that the United States is their enemy.

No amount of domestic political change in the United States can address this.

In 1976, a 17-year old American boy could travel alone in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. without any fear; he would be welcome because of the correct foreign policy of the United States.

Americans have lost that and are discussing the deck arrangements on Titanic.

Norwegian , Jan 14 2021 21:30 utc | 32

@fyi | Jan 14 2021 21:24 utc | 30

In 1976, a 17-year old American boy could travel alone in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. without any fear; he would be welcome because of the correct foreign policy of the United States.

In Laos, Vietnam or Cambodia the "correct foreign policy of the United States" was in full display. The US was always a murderous monster. The only difference is that it has turned on itself.
Kooshy , Jan 14 2021 21:41 utc | 36

"The Trump supporters do not care that he is a murderer and a scoundrel as well as yet another US President that started yet another war against a Muslim country."

As you know this is not unique to trump supporters for as long as I have experienced this a fundamental group think in America. Americans from early school days are thought the you are "special" and "indispensable "
And "exceptional" they are thought never to accept or believe defeat never agree or accept "mistake" never agree or accept "lack of knowledge " this not just Trump is the entire nation' by now this group think is injected in sole of the nation on hourly bases. This people are just beginning to doubt or question their government' sincerity and its design while middle easterners never trust the government. It will eventually become more difficult for US governments to govern under the mistrust that is building up. New honest deal will be needed.

[Jan 14, 2021] And what if the election WAS stolen and the President's people can prove it?

Jan 14, 2021 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Bob Thompson 3 days ago

And what if the election WAS stolen and the President's people can prove it?

Then what?

paradoctor Bob Thompson 3 days ago

"If"? If dogs were cats, then they'd meow.

The President's people had over 60 chances to prove fraud to a judge. All failed.

Joe Norte paradoctor 3 days ago

Not so. The presidents team only filed 7 cases. the rest were third parties.

Of the 7 2 found rule changes should not have been done (PA, WI) but no judge was going to overturn results.

The dems weaponized mail in voting to benefit Biden. Were signatures checked in GA, PA, WI, MI?

One researcher found Fulton County, GA did 106,000 adjudications with a staff so small at an average rate of 30 seconds per adjudication they would have taken until jan 5 to do HALF of them.

When pressed on how this could be possible the GA secretary of State and Fulton County had no answers.

The Supreme Court also refused to hear both an original jurisdiction case AND a case by the President's own team in December which would have ruled on the constitutionality of PA's mail in ballots done without amending the state constitution.

[Jan 14, 2021] The problem with election fraud, of course, is that both political parties don't really want honest elections.

Jan 14, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

ian , Jan 14 2021 0:42 utc | 64

@pretzelattack "alaff, there's no evidence the election was stolen"

Why do people treat this like a court of law with a presumption of innocence? - "if there is no proof of wrongdoing, it must have been fair and honest".

Suppose someone demanded that you prove the election was honest? Could you do it? I know I couldn't.
It's not hard to imagine a system where you could prove that, however. It would require voter ID's, much stricter chain of custody for ballots and the ability for a voter to check how their vote was recorded and challenge it, if necessary. This is all perfectly possible technologically. If I can return something to a store 6 months after I bought it without a receipt and have them look up the visa purchase, we should be able to do this. The reason, of course, is that the political parties don't really want honest elections.

The whole thing reminds me a bit of that line in "The Sting" - "what do you expect me to do? challenge him in front of everyone for cheating better than me?"

Where I'm going is this: why _should_ I believe the election was honest? I simply don't know if it was, or wasn't. There won't be real confidence in elections until we provide better means of validating the results that are available to everyone. Simply saying "there was no evidence of fraud" won't be enough.

[Jan 13, 2021] The vote count data analysis in that vid is very enlightening and convincing. As if we need more convincing that the 2020 election was fraudulent.

Jan 13, 2021 | www.unz.com

whodat , says: January 12, 2021 at 8:08 am GMT • 20.2 hours ago

1:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/IKiyAy9vjrk?feature=oembed
2:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-fbi-claims-jurisdiction-yesterday-took-control-shredded-ballots-analyzed-georgia-sends-back-shredder/

GMike , says: January 12, 2021 at 8:37 pm GMT • 7.7 hours ago
@whodat

Thanks for the info. The vote count data analysis in that vid is very enlightening and convincing. As if we need more convincing that the 2020 election was fraudulent. But if you do or have acquaintances that still need convincing, watch the presentation.

[Jan 11, 2021] Dominion sues Trump lawyer Sidney Powell for defamation

There is nothing special about Dominion. The key question is whether computer based voting machines have the right to exist or not. Do they do any good or they are just unnessery and ripe with potential of new forms of fraud overhead, driven by unscrupulous lobbists? That is the question.
The ides of using consumer (or small business office, if you wish) class software and hardware in those machines is also open to review. Military class Sever have special OS (Trusted Solaris, OpenBSD, etc), special mechanism to prevent manipulation of binaries (md5 checksums, mirroring on non violate media, etc), special means to prevent abuse by rogue sysadmins (dual sysadmin mode necessary to become root, special access rules excluding areas that should not be manipulated (AppArmor), etc. Windows based servers an, desktops and tables are consumer class devices that can't be secured on public network to say nothing about election network where multiple powerful actors (including intelligence agencies; both foreign and domestic ) have strong stimulus to interfere. This is a struggle for power and it is typically dirty.
Venezuela is a weak point for Powell. As for "there was no widespread fraud in the election" your mileage may vary. Mail-in fraud almost certainly was "widespread" as in practiced in many battleground states. Weakening mail-in voting laws was a part of the scheme. What role direct manipulation of votes by appointed administrators (several at each precept and counting center (centralize counting is ripe area for fraud, especially good, old injection of votes, just due to total amount of votes processed), If they can act along without and external control this created several interesting questions, which needs to be answered by relevant tech investigations. Ability to scan the same batch of ballots several times, as several election observers complained, also needs to be blocked, and this is not an easy thing to do.
I have impression that when invalid ballot is adjudicated by the administrator a new ballot is printed. It looks like adjudication does not leave any paper trial or set of images to compare. That means that recount will not detect any manipulation. If true, that opens a wide field for manipulation of votes by rogue administrators including setting scanner to jekect more votes then nessesary creaing a pool of votes to manipulate. .
Jan 11, 2021 | apnews.com

She has claimed that the company was created in Venezuela to rig elections for the late leader Hugo Chavez and that it has the ability to switch votes.

There was no widespread fraud in the election, which a range of election officials across the country including Trump's former attorney general, William Barr, have confirmed. Republican governors in Arizona and Georgia, key battleground states crucial to Biden's victory, also vouched for the integrity of the elections in their states. Nearly all the legal challenges from Trump and his allies have been dismissed by judges, including two tossed by the Supreme Court, which includes three Trump-nominated justices.

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The company said there "there are mountains of direct evidence that conclusively disprove Powell's vote manipulation claims against Dominion -- namely, the millions of paper ballots that were audited and recounted by bipartisan officials and volunteers in Georgia and other swing states, which confirmed that Dominion accurately counted votes on paper ballots."

Dominion said that when it formally told Powell her claims were false and asked her to retract them, she "doubled down," using her Twitter account with more than 1 million followers to amplify the claims.

[Jan 11, 2021] Trump's blanket ban from social media proves the information war is over and neoliberals won by suppression of opposing side of election graud debate by Helen Buyniski

Like is several previous similar cases the just swiped the dirt under the rug
Jan 09, 2021 | www.rt.com
US President Donald Trump has been banned from most social media platforms, supposedly for inciting riots at the Capitol. But with no one capable of holding the tech behemoths to account, even fervent Trump-haters should worry.

Twitter permanently banned the president from its platform on Friday, following in the footsteps of Facebook, Snapchat, Twitch, and other platforms that used Wednesday's riot at the Capitol as an excuse to do what much of Silicon Valley has wanted to do for years.

But it wasn't Trump's on-platform conduct that was the problem, according to Twitter – it was "how [his tweets] are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter," a post on the company's blog declared on Friday. The platform then interpreted two seemingly innocuous tweets – regarding not attending Democrat President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration and giving his fans a "GIANT VOICE long into the future" – as a call to arms directed at his supporters, far out-crazying the so-called "conspiracy theorists" Twitter has also sought to deplatform.

ALSO ON RT.COM By banning Trump and his supporters, Google and Twitter are turning the US into a facsimile of the regimes we once condemned

Logically speaking, it's impossible for anyone – especially a public figure like Trump – to control how his words are being interpreted, or even who's reading them to begin with. For Twitter to translate the president's praise of his supporters and promise not to attend his successor's inauguration into a call for violence requires a full-on break with reality.

But platforms like Twitter, and especially Facebook, have been declaring all-out war on reality for years now, merely ramping up hostilities in the wake of the Capitol riot. On Facebook, even just sharing footage of Wednesday's riot was off-limits, as was posting Trump's speech to his supporters. Any call for further protests, no matter how peaceful, was also targeted for removal.

These platforms' notorious echo chambers have no room for dissenting narratives, whether it concerns the Capitol protests or the growing contingent of Covid-19 dissenters crying foul as lockdowns drag on (and cases go up) with no end in sight. And while a Trump-scale individual may be able to create their own means of addressing the people, thousands of others have been wiped out over the past year for political or public-health wrongthink.

The narrative managers are unlikely to stop at wiping their ideological nemeses off the internet, either.

ALSO ON RT.COM After Capitol Hill riots, children rat out their right-wing parents to the media

Perhaps emboldened by social media's iron-fisted approach to building its own alternate reality, New Jersey assemblyman Paul Moriarty has been lobbying cable TV providers to stop carrying conservative channels like Newsmax, OANN, and Fox News.

Missouri Senator Josh Hawley (R) had a book deal revoked for challenging the results of November's elections.

Social media, once sold as a tool for promoting democracy and giving ordinary people a voice they previously lacked, revealed its true identity over the course of 2020. Whether attempting to delete records of an entire event, as Facebook has done with the Capitol protests, or memory-holing inconvenient facts about the Covid-19 pandemic, the 'new and improved' reality crafted by the media establishment provides the ideal foundation for the police state being constructed around the human mind.

The average person might go through life unaware this invisible thought-barrier is even there – but anyone who steps out of line is quickly zapped back into obedience. And if they refuse to cooperate even then? Deplatforming, in an age where face-to-face contact has gone the way of the dodo, is the modern equivalent of 'disappearing' dissidents in broad daylight.

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Indeed, these platforms have merged with government in too many ways to count here. Those who express political 'wrongthink' online aren't just disappeared from the digital public square – they can be barred from supposedly apolitical apps like AirBnB, or even denied the use of their bank accounts.

The US constitution does not permit the government to punish individuals who aren't even suspected of committing a crime. Nor does it permit the suppression of lawful speech or allow authorities to paw through private citizens' lives in the hope of turning up something incriminating. But private corporations – as the neoliberal center never tires of reminding us – can do what they like, including depriving Americans of their First and Fourth Amendment rights. Such capabilities explain why Washington has looked the other way for so many years while Facebook, Google, Twitter, and Amazon became preposterously huge, insanely profitable monopolies.

But the joke's on the government, in this case. With hundreds of billions of dollars at their disposal, and a user-base trained to embrace their mental slavery with a positively Pavlovian response, Big Tech seems to have realized it no longer has to pretend to play nice with Big Government.

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[Jan 11, 2021] Why mail-in voting is prohibited in Europe.

Jan 11, 2021 | www.unz.com

Reg Cæsar , says: January 11, 2021 at 8:53 am GMT • 7.8 hours ago

@Harry Huntington

No election with mail in voting in the US will ever work because everyone will assume fraud.

Which is why it is prohibited in Europe.

[Jan 09, 2021] Former CIA station chief does a great job explaining how the electronic election theft works

Jan 09, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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No_Pretzel_Logic 9 hours ago

Different topic but, this is good. Normally, I'm too impatient for videos however, this former CIA station chief does a great job explaining how the electronic election theft flowed.

ITALY and satellites! 13 min video Brad Johnson: Rome, Satellites, Servers: an Update - YouTube

[Jan 09, 2021] America's Color Revolution by Paul Craig Roberts

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

Peripatetic Itch , says: January 8, 2021 at 11:35 am GMT • 11.8 hours ago

Edward Solomon brilliantly reverse-engineers the election steal in Georgia:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3pVAKm8JqvU?feature=oembed

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-j3msC3EQ0-dxpbN2lsKQm_SoaRrvXSo/view


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/0jHZcVXz1hS7/

[Jan 09, 2021] In the USA election fraud is more of a tradition than incident.

Jan 09, 2021 | off-guardian.org

Maarten "merethan" , Jan 8, 2021 11:43 AM Reply to Leo Washington

Election fraud is more of a tradition than incident. Remember how we used to joke about "This presidency is brought to you by Diebold"? That was around the 2000's referring to Bush Jr., and Diebold is the vote machine manufacturer. That's just 20 years ago mate.

Calling election fraud a hilarious idea shows a good lack of historical perspective.

Leo Washington , Jan 8, 2021 12:30 PM Reply to Maarten "merethan"

Yeah, fair enough. Can we see some proof of this election fraud, then? And by 'proof', I don't mean 'someone said'. Because I can't help thinking that if there had been any proof, then every single 'lawsuit' would not have been laughed out of court. Or are the judges involved in this massive left-wing conspiracy, too? Jan 8, 2021 7:27 PM Reply to Leo Washington

Proof is all the problem: There's no proof of a fair election either. The current system was, in the old days, the only way to ensure votes were anonymous which is a requirement for having everyone express their true beliefs and allegiances, absent of any group pressure.

I'm all for enhancing this with cryptographic signatures and a public ledger. Such that everyone can validate their own vote and totals but not the one made by their spouse or neighbor specifically.

That would bring us a lot closer to the proof you are asking for, because right now we got none in either direction. Other than the media saying so and twitter banning you for daring to post any questions.

Ken Garoo , Jan 8, 2021 8:38 PM Reply to Maarten "merethan"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErDmO4xVkAELk_u?format=jpg&amp ;

Two trailing democract candidates brought to the lead at the same time and in the same proprtion by mail-in votes that are 100% democrat – what are the odds? (~0% in a straight election, ~100% in a bent election).

I would have the same view if the R and D attributions were reversed. The election was fixed.

Wayne Vanderploeg , Jan 8, 2021 10:55 PM Reply to Maarten "merethan"

The main point is that the fraud is so evident. Multiple witnesses. Examination of two machines. Not just a smoking gun with no witnesses. The government is too afraid to confront it out of fear of backlash. The backlash from not doing anything will be worse. Democrats keep wanting to unify now that Trump is out. They have done nothing but hinder him and our country because of lies being levied against him. No doubt the man has flaws but that is not justification for what they did during his presidency. And now the evidence of the steal. Combine that with trying to remove him to keep him from running again The shit just keeps getting deeper and deeper while they beg for unity. All of the sudden mayors across the country are vowing to bring back law and order now that Trump is out. I could go on and on. I cannot express how deeply the anger goes and it is not getting any better as Democratic leaders continue with derogatory statements all of which are lies. This is classic bullying and kicking someone who is down. It is truly a recipe for disaster.

[Jan 09, 2021] Dominion Files $1.3 Billion Defamation Lawsuit Against Sidney Powell.. Considering Suing President Trump

Jan 09, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

A lawyer for Dominion held a press conference on Friday claiming that claims that the allegations against them are "false."

"These false allegations have caused catastrophic damage to this company. They have branded Dominion, a voting company, as perpetrating a massive fraud," Tom Clare, the attorney representing Dominion, said in a press conference over Zoom. "Those allegations triggered a media firestorm that promoted those same false claims to a global audience. They've made the company radioactive and destroyed the value of its once thriving business and has put Dominion's multiyear contracts in jeopardy."

Smartmatic has also said that they will be filing lawsuits against people who questioned their technology and the "media outlets that gave them a platform."

To win the lawsuit, Dominion must prove that Powell was acting in "actual malice," and not sincere belief that they helped to rig the election against the president.

[Jan 09, 2021] Dominion releases the Kraken

Jan 09, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Christian J. Chuba , Jan 8 2021 21:44 utc | 62

Files $2B Lawsuit against Powell

I read the filing and THIS looks like read trouble for Powell. Unlike her incoherent filings, Dominion methodically rips apart Powell's false claims and more importantly establishes a timeline showing malicious intent which is the key in defamation. They show how she knowingly repeated falsehoods when it would benefit her financially.

[Jan 09, 2021] There was no question my vote would end up being exactly whatever the people who ran that machine wanted, and if that wasn't intuitive to most normies before this year, a lot know it now, even if they're in a relatively honest Red state part of the country.

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

That Would Be Telling , says:

[Jan 09, 2021] Legal Hatchet Man and Central Operative in the "Color Revolution" Against President Trump

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

SolontoCroesus , says: January 8, 2021 at 7:17 pm GMT • 4.1 hours ago

@SolontoCroesus exercise -- [is] a man by the name of Norm Eisen. . . .

". . .a key architect of nearly every attempt to delegitimize, impeach, censor, sue and remove the democratically elected 45th President of the United States – is a tale that winds through nearly every facet of the color revolution playbook. There is no purer embodiment of Revolver's thesis that the very same regime change professionals who run Color Revolutions on behalf of the US Government in order to undermine or overthrow alleged "authoritarian" governments overseas, are running the very same playbook to overturn Trump's 2016 victory and to pre-empt a repeat in 2020. "

[Jan 09, 2021] There is no reason to believe that this election was any more "stolen" than any other conducted in the US in the last seventy-five years. The oligarchical reign continues, unabated.

Jan 09, 2021 | www.unz.com

Rufus Clyde , says: January 8, 2021 at 8:07 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago

@Nisbe hey made out okay rail about the elite now that they've been given the bum's rush as a function of the global speculative rentier economy.

Your closing emission encapsulates the deluded mentality of Drumpfers.

I'll grant that Trump Derangement Syndrom is real, but that was the whole point of Drumpf. He's such an odious cretin that sentiment replaced all reason in a US electorate that exists on a political spectrum running from the right to the far-right, with ginned-up "moral" issues creating the divide, rather than quarelling over the dominance of economic equality or economic freedom in society.

The oligarchical reign continues, unabated.

Rufus Clyde , says: January 8, 2021 at 8:51 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@Trinity

Does it matter that a few people know what the score is? It's nearly fifty years since Operation Nickel Grass, when the US flew A-4 and F-4 aircraft right to Israel to shore up the colonial project, along with C-5 loads of TOW missiles, M60 tanks, etc., and people still think there is a representative democracy in the US.

[Jan 08, 2021] Full interview on voter machine code changes uploaded from Italy to Germany then USA.

Jan 08, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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I haven't heard much about this charge being made by Maria Zack that an affidavit was delivered yesterday concerning a whistleblower that allegedly was delivered to Kemp, Meadows. It's about frankfurt and dominion software shenangians. I figured Lin Wood would know about it if theres' anything here, but he's suspended from twitter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QBGiHZfOheI&feature=share

[Jan 08, 2021] When two neoliberal gangs fight for power, elections became the battleground and dirty tricks are abandant

Jan 08, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Jan 7 2021 15:58 utc | 117

"...the election wasn't "stolen". Down ballot republicans outperformed Trump. That's a really, really difficult way to steal an election..." Lex@85

The Republicans steal elections regularly. They do so by suppressing votes from poor and black areas, by disenfranchising millions of 'felons' (few of whom are actually guilty of felony) and gerrymandering House seats. Of course they also gerrymander electoral districts in the States too, which allows them to keep control.

The Democrats are no better. In fact they wrote the book on the arts of disenfranchisement, from Gerry to Daley. Their specialty is ballot box stuffing.

The big difference is that this year the Republicans were confident that the usual measures, which in the South include suppression of the black vote by intimidation, (something that shows in the low level of black participation in rural areas and small towns-where everyone knows what everyone else is doing and most employers are white) would do the trick. It generally does because the Democrats are not really interested in taking power at the State level or, for that matter, in Congress where-as the stimulus cheque and defence budget votes showed- they find it embarrassing when they have to choose their oligarch sponsors over their 'base. Obama was obviously relieved when in 2010 the Republicans swept the mid term elections and took the "Change" he had been elected on off the agenda. After that he just cruised through his last six years governing like his hero Reagan.

It is one of the most potent myths being manufactured by the media that the election this year was fair. It wasn't. The need for reform, beginning with the re-empowerment of the Civil Rights Act enforcement mechanisms, is something that must be imposed on the Democrats, who will fight against it because their control over the southern black vote depends on the maintenance of the current system.
And then there are the obvious and major Constitutional changes needed- the closing of the Electoral College system; the Senate, where it is possible for something like 20% of the electorate to control the majority of the 100 seats, has to be changed. Its current position is that of the British House of Lords in 1832.
All the sound and the fury of this very suspicious looking 'riot' shouldn't be allowed to block out the reality which is that, Trump or Biden, nothing is changed. The Biden administration is likely to be every bit as bad as Trump's, only the media will love it.
In the real world there is frustration. And it is entirely justified-living standards are plummeting and pessimism about the future is prevalent. But revolutions don't come from anger they come from reform movements stymied: when people realise that the only hope of any change is complete change-revolution- and feel ready to take the reins of power into their own hands, that is when revolutions occur.
"Realise" is the key word. Political consciousness means understanding of reality, not belief in weird and unsupportable theories whether they involve God or The Jews or oligarchical cabals intent on buying up small businesses by inventing pandemics or secret moves to smuggle microchips into brains to turn humanity into zombies. And the reality is that we live in a capitalist empire dominated by the determination of the exploiting class to protect its system from the threat, long understood but only ever realised episodically, of democracy. Of equality. Of liberty and treating each other as the siblings, parents and children that we all are.

[Jan 07, 2021] Two places have stated that "thousands" used their addresses as "residence"

Jan 07, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Stonebird , Jan 7 2021 7:52 utc | 27

Even in the recent election for the Georgia senate there were "irregularities". Two places have stated that "thousands" used their addresses as "residence", and demanded ballots. One is connected to Emmaus, on Twitter, don't know if I can still find a reference. 4'700 votes have been mentioned elsewhere. Not a lot but it does indicate problems.

[Jan 06, 2021] The Extremist at Dominion Voting Systems by Darryl Cooper

And Microsoft stooges claims 2020 was 'most secure election in American history' says DHS advisory council, claims NO EVIDENCE of lost or deleted votes
Notable quotes:
"... A Twitter user named Joe Oltmann had tweeted a few screenshots of a Facebook user posting Antifa manifestos and songs about killing police. The Facebook account belonged to Eric Coomer, and Oltmann claimed it was the same Eric Coomer who is the Director of Product Strategy and Security for Dominion Voting Systems. Within hours of Oltmann posting the information, however, the Facebook page of Eric Coomer was taken down, so I was unable to verify that Antifa Coomer and Dominion Coomer were the same person. By the end of the day, Joe Oltmann's Twitter account was suspended as well. I had followed his feed throughout the day. I can say with certainty that he posted nothing remotely offensive or provocative. I have no doubt whatsoever that Twitter suspended him for posting the screenshots of Coomer's Facebook page. Interesting. ..."
"... Of course none of this proves any fraud took place, but we deserve some answers ..."
"... Having potentially tens of millions of people doubting results in a half-dozen different states thanks to the same company running machines in all of them is an unprecedentedly serious problem, whether or not their doubts are well-founded. ..."
"... platforms like Twitter and WordPress would do well to consider that censorship of people discussing Dominion and its employees is likely to have the opposite effect that they think it will ..."
"... in Georgia the voter signature validation was usurped for mail in ballots, allowing anyone with a mail in ballot to vote. ..."
"... There are ample undercover videos of union postal workers selling mail in ballots. ..."
"... The secretary of state usurped the law in Georgia, telling polling places to ignore the requirement to verify signatures of mail in ballots. The signatures are compared to the drivers license database. The democrats (Stacey Abrams) worked with the secretary of state to have such voting controls removed so the system could be easily frauded. ..."
"... if you think the cost of recounts is high, wait till you get a load of the cost of the electorate's lack of confidence in the election process. That cost will be measured in human lives. ..."
"... But the Russians! Not my President. Resistance. Years of investigations into gossip columnist Steele's paid report to the Democrats. ..."
Jan 06, 2021 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Whether or not the company's machines were misused, it poses structural risks, and suppressing criticism will make Trump supporters even more dubious

t is unlikely that many of the 73 million people who cast ballots for Donald Trump in 2020 will ever accept the legitimacy of his loss. Who could convince them? If the media sources demanding Trump's concession held any sway with Trump's voters, they would not have been his voters. They do not know for sure that the election was stolen, but they do know with apodictic certainty that the media would lie to them if it was. So if Donald Trump says the election was stolen, that's good enough for the Deplorables.

Yet even the President's most faithful must have flinched at his recent tweet accusing a leading manufacturer of voting machines of committing election fraud on a mass scale.

It is hard to overstate the irresponsibility of broadcasting such a serious accusation without proof. It shocked me, and my startle response has become pretty desensitized over the last four years. Sure, it turned out Trump was right when he accused the Obama administration of spying on his 2016 campaign, but this is different. Dominion Voting Systems is not staffed with Obama appointees, after all. I decided to poke around a bit to see what, if anything, could possibly be behind Trump's wild accusation.

A Twitter user named Joe Oltmann had tweeted a few screenshots of a Facebook user posting Antifa manifestos and songs about killing police. The Facebook account belonged to Eric Coomer, and Oltmann claimed it was the same Eric Coomer who is the Director of Product Strategy and Security for Dominion Voting Systems. Within hours of Oltmann posting the information, however, the Facebook page of Eric Coomer was taken down, so I was unable to verify that Antifa Coomer and Dominion Coomer were the same person. By the end of the day, Joe Oltmann's Twitter account was suspended as well. I had followed his feed throughout the day. I can say with certainty that he posted nothing remotely offensive or provocative. I have no doubt whatsoever that Twitter suspended him for posting the screenshots of Coomer's Facebook page. Interesting.

Searching around some more, I found that Dominion Coomer is an avid climber who used to post frequently on climbing message boards under his own name. He confirmed it himself in a post where he mentioned getting his nuclear physics Ph.D from Berkeley in 1997. Dominion's Eric Coomer received his nuclear physics Ph.D from Berkeley in 1997. In another post on the same message board, Coomer gave out his email address. It was his old campus address from the Berkeley nuclear physics department. I plugged that email address into the Google machine, and things got weird.

I found Eric Coomer had a long history of posting on websites for skinheads. He was a heavy user of a Google Group for skinheads, and seems to have possibly been a content moderator for papaskin.com. Only these aren't the neo-Nazis our mothers warned us about. These skinheads call themselves SHARPs, or Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice. Think of them as a sort of punk rock Antifa. In 2012, roughly 18 SHARPs attacked a smaller group of suspected racists in a Chicago restaurant with bats and batons. That same year, three neo-Nazis were charged for the 1998 double murder of two SHARPs in Nevada.

Given that Dominion's Director of Security and Strategy, Eric Coomer, was an enthusiast of a street fighting anti-racist skinhead culture going back at least into the 1990s, it seems very likely that Joe Oltmann was correct in identifying him as the Facebook user recently endorsing Antifa and posting anti-police rhetoric. I shared this information on a few message boards to let other people run with it. Within hours, Papa Skin, a skinhead website which had been up for over 20 years, was taken offline. (Whoever took it down missed the FAQ page, you can find it here http://www.papaskin.com/faq/faqs.html ).

Of course none of this proves any fraud took place, but we deserve some answers. One need only imagine if it was Joe Biden contesting the election results, and the Director for Strategy & Security at a major voting machine provider turned out to be a Proud Boy with decades of involvement in extremist, even violent, right wing political groups. Democrats would rightly point out that this person endorses engaging in illegal behavior to achieve political goals. They would ask how such a person ended up in such an important position of public trust, and what it might say about the procedures in place to ensure Dominion's responsibilities are handled in good faith.

Another reality of the Dominion fiasco, whether or not there was any fraud using its machines, is the structural risk created by having the same company run machines in more than two dozen states. If there were glitchy machines causing a dispute in one state, like Democrats' claims about Diebold machines in Ohio in 2004, and even if that dispute led to competing slates of electors, that is something the American political system has seen and withstood before. Having potentially tens of millions of people doubting results in a half-dozen different states thanks to the same company running machines in all of them is an unprecedentedly serious problem, whether or not their doubts are well-founded.

Moreover, platforms like Twitter and WordPress would do well to consider that censorship of people discussing Dominion and its employees is likely to have the opposite effect that they think it will: Twitter bans, site removals, and wiping of bios from websites are only going to make Trump's hardcore supporters think Dominion has something to hide. You can't make disagreements go away by banning one side and pretending there is unanimity.

Darryl Cooper is the host of the MartyrMade podcast.


Kiyoshi01 8 days ago

This claim is fairly easy to check. The machine prints out a paper record that is viewable by the voter and saved for purposes of auditing.

JPH Kiyoshi01 8 days ago

Actually voting is not audited as any accountant will be able to confirm.

HistoryProf JPH 8 days ago

Every state that I am aware of conducts random spot audits of election results.

JPH HistoryProf 8 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
You may have to work on your awareness. And a full audit of the whole process is definitely a lot more than some random spot.

HistoryProf JPH 8 days ago

The list you just linked showed that most states conduct routine audits of races. The only states that don't seem to are deep red ones. Spot audits are a valid way of discovering errors. If every state had to do full recounts for every single race, the cost to taxpayers would be enormous and wasteful.

Herb Daniels HistoryProf 8 days ago

...Places like Georgia where Ds destroyed the system by actually eliminating audit... they just run exactly the same fake ballots through they ran the first time... & they had a 'signature verification' & they didn't even turn the machine on.

TJ Hessmon Kerr Avon 6 days ago • edited

There are three obvious methods of election fraud occurring in 2020

1) canvasing, where those canvasing voters holding mail in ballots are convincing them to change their vote from republican to democrat, then paying them with what amounts to trinkets. (flash light, pocket knife, tee shirt, those sorts of things)

2) Voting machine weighted votes, which occurs in republican heavy precincts using the Banzhaf Power Index. This system counts votes in decimals less than and greater than one for each vote. An example would be weighting republican votes where each republican vote would count 0.75, meaning 4 voters are necessary to achieve a vote of 3. (1.5 + 1.5 = 3), the weighted scale increases as the number of votes increase. This is known as vote redistribution. In essence a system such as this cold require(at 0.25) 200k republican votes to equal 50k democrat votes

3) Mail in ballots which are rife with fraud of many types

wernerpd Dan Penrod 3 days ago

That's not reality for SCOTUS. They don't make those kinds of rulings. What I would expect from a majority opinion if they believed there was substantive fraud that was sufficient to overturn the election results, would go like this: "Based upon the quantity and quality of indicia for illegal ballots being counted, it is the opinion of the court that states X,Y,Z, etc., cannot certify their election results based upon the election held on 3 NOV 20. Accordingly, this case is remanded to the respective state legislatures for cure."

So what can the state legislatures do in accordance with Article II and the 12th Amendment? They can try to do a revote, but that is nearly impossible given the time constraints required by law. They can in many of these states appoint electors independently of the vote held on 3 NOV 20. Keep in mind, not every state permits such a role for the legislature. I don't see that happening, since the **perception** will be that they disenfranchised all of the state's voters. The only logical outcome is all of those respective states will not be able to certify their elections. As such, the 12th Amendment is instructive here. At that point, Congress will decide who becomes president. This also happened in the 1801 and 1825. Each state delegation gets exactly **one** vote. Since republicans control 26 of the 50 state delegations, you can guess how that vote might tilt.

Food for thought.

409 Biscayne Sleeper Kerr Avon 2 days ago

Isn't that preciously what your radical Dem brothers and sisters are up to hoping to snag the Senate via Georgia on Jan 4th so that a one party America exists indefinitely? You are "projecting" what your ilk is actually hoping to accomplish. 'Jeepers', yeah jeepers is right. Nice try though.

TJ Hessmon Charles 6 days ago

You may want to read the complaint and resulting law suit filed by Lin Wood related to Georgia mail in ballots. It eliminates your assumptions with fact. Yes, in Georgia the voter signature validation was usurped for mail in ballots, allowing anyone with a mail in ballot to vote. There are ample undercover videos of union postal workers selling mail in ballots. Further there are many cases where mail in ballots were requested then the voter showed up at the polls to physically vote. The voter indicating they had never requested a mail in ballot. Plenty of documented cases, all you need do is look past you keyboard and tater chip bag...

TJ Hessmon Herb Daniels 6 days ago

The secretary of state usurped the law in Georgia, telling polling places to ignore the requirement to verify signatures of mail in ballots. The signatures are compared to the drivers license database. The democrats (Stacey Abrams) worked with the secretary of state to have such voting controls removed so the system could be easily frauded.

TJ Hessmon tai 6 days ago

Audits will work if cross auditing is randomly performed and auditors have the authority to either close the polls or invalidate the poll count based upon their discoveries.

glasshalfful HistoryProf 8 days ago

Cmpared to the Muller investigation, you mean waste of money like that? :)

TJ Hessmon HistoryProf 6 days ago • edited

Austin Texas = Kelly Reagan Brunner who was working at a Supported Living Center for senior citizens has been arrested and charged with more than 100 counts of voter fraud. (She was canvassing and changing votes).

Wisconsin
3,170,206 votes counted
3,129,ooo Registered Voters.

Erie county elections, Poll worker posts on twitter about him throwing out Trump votes.

7 Wards in Milwaukee report more votes than actual registered voters

Republican poll watchers prevented from entering Detroit poll counting center. official states COVID 19 as their reason.

MIT scientists find objective evidence of vote tallies being forced negatively away for the statistical mean by vote software. This was discovered in several states.

And on and on and on .........a landslide of objective evidence.

Riccardo Palagi HistoryProf 6 days ago

I'll tell you what Prof., if you think the cost of recounts is high, wait till you get a load of the cost of the electorate's lack of confidence in the election process. That cost will be measured in human lives.

donthomson1 HistoryProf 4 days ago

But the Russians! Not my President. Resistance. Years of investigations into gossip columnist Steele's paid report to the Democrats.

How could anybody with a brain in their head have ever taken Steele seriously? OK, he did speak to a Yank who was once a Russian.

There was also a news aggregator run by Russians just as there are others run by other humans. Only racists think that free speech should be restricted to Yanks. donthomson1@hotmail.com

Denace The Menace HistoryProf 8 days ago • edited

Have you not been paying attention? The Dems states threw all election safeguards/checks and balances in the garbage like the USPS workers did, and some claim poll workers did. Experts have done audits of the voting in swing states/counties and found highly improbable vote counts......So.......

UncleDirtNap Denace The Menace 8 days ago

You mean like:

Georgia

President US Senate Differential
Trump 2,457,880 Purdue 2,458,665 -785
Biden 2,472,002 Ossoff 2,372,086 +99,916

That's closer to impossible than improbable and a discrepancy only a leftist could accept as real.

RepublicanDon Kiyoshi01 8 days ago

They also export data in JSON to media outlets. The JSON files showed interesting anomalies.

[Jan 06, 2021] When using electronic voting machines you do not vote. Election workers do not count the votes by Robert Willmann

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... From 4 November 2020, the day after the election, until he left office on 23 December, Attorney General William Barr did nothing about electoral problems. The DOJ could have started grand juries in multiple suspect states when anamolies began to appear the week of the election, but did zero. When President Trump nominated Barr on 7 December 2018, I was very surprised, because of some of Barr's prior legal positions and associations. But that is another story. ..."
"... At the time of the 2020 election, mail-in and absentee voting had been greatly expanded, which has led to massive problems and some discussion. But the biggest danger which has received little exposure in mass media is in electronic voting and counting machines. In an electronic voting machine, the hidden electronic processes become the ballot -- not "your ballot" -- and the tabulation of ballots is also done by hidden electronic processes. No audit trail is possible. If a machine prints out a receipt with a bar code on it, that is not a ballot and it cannot be part of an audit. An audit requires original documents and items for every step in a process. ..."
"... The voting machine companies like to say their computer software code is "proprietary" and cannot be made public, and the stupid state and local governments seem to go along with it. Even if software source code is revealed in secret to a state agency, it can be changed later to permit fraud, and the governments will not know it. ..."
"... The problem of electronic voting machines was started and promoted nationwide in 2002 by Congress in the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) [3]. It promised states federal tax money if the states would implement some of its laughable "standards". Around 2004 or so, a group in San Antonio talked to me about the machines and a legal case, and I drafted a lawsuit paper to file and obtained an expert witness. But then the county's governing body offered them some money to educate voters about electronic voting machines, and they decided to not proceed with a case. At that time, the county election administration had electronic machines, and a maintenance contract that was expensive, but nothing remotely like the racket that exists today. Electronic voting machines are big business. Georgia paid at least $100 million for the Dominion voting machines it used in the 2020 elections, and New Jersey may pay from $60 to $80 million dollars or more to update its voting machines [4]. ..."
"... Peter Navarro is an Assistant to President Trump and Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, where he has consistently tried to rebuild domestic manufacturing and jobs, and cancel existing bad policies that favored China over U.S. jobs and industry. He has written two excellent booklets about problems with the 2020 presidential election. "The Immaculate Deception: Six Key Dimensions of Election Irregularities", and "The Art of the Steal: Volume 2 of the Navarro Report" [5] ..."
"... Election management systems, starting with Diebold, were it appears, specifically designed to do just that; manage elections. That this started in the export market as a foreign policy tool and has now come home to roost is all too symptomatic of other such dark practices, such as the information warfare and PSYOPS we are seeing much in evidence in what is left of politics in America. The resultant corrosive effect on democracy is near terminal - how many Trump supporters will believe a Warnock win was fair? ..."
"... As of this writing it looks like the election theft system put in place in Georgia is working as planned to ensure a Uniparty victory for the Democrats. The GOP will of course blame Trump and his supporters and go back to rolling in the grift over to Landslide Joe and the woman who couldn't win a single delegate. ..."
Jan 06, 2021 | turcopolier.typepad.com

When using electronic voting machines you do not vote. Election workers do not count the votes.

Everybody knows that a valid election has three parts: qualified, eligible voters are listed; an eligible voter expresses a legal vote on a ballot; and the votes are counted accurately. For a small organization or club, this is easy. All the candidates and voters are in one room and everybody knows everyone else. Each member writes the name of their choice on a piece of paper and folds it over, the votes are put in a box, and then the votes are opened and counted in front of everybody. Everything is done in the same room. A local, state, or national election has the same parts, but with many more voters, and voting and counting locations, it is spread out over a much bigger area. Many things are a system, including your cardiovascular system [1]. But since an election as a system is created by people, it is amateurish and simple compared to the sophisticated cardiovascular system. Despite its simplicity, there is little or no "transparency", today's trendy term. Because of human nature and the money and authority available through a government, an enormous incentive is created to rig and cheat in an election.

Documents attached to various lawsuits, other information, and the blocking of public examination of ballots and electronic voting and counting machines are showing huge problems and fraud in the November 2020 general election in an amount that can affect the result. But those with the authority to do the most the fastest are so far doing nothing, from the federal Department That Calls Itself Justice (DOJ), to local District Attorneys.

The Attorney General and the U.S. Attorneys in the 94 federal districts have a lightening bolt in their hands. Federal grand jury subpoenas are nationwide in scope. A grand jury does not just issue formal criminal charges, it can also investigate, under the age-old rationale that "the public is entitled to every man's evidence". Unlike the FBI, which is required by policy to have a factual "predicate" before it can open an investigation, a grand jury is in no way limited. The U.S. Supreme Court in 1992 made clear that "the grand jury can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not" [2]--

"The grand jury's functional independence from the Judicial Branch is evident both in the scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing and in the manner in which that power is exercised. Unlike [a] [c]ourt, whose jurisdiction is predicated upon a specific case or controversy, the grand jury can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not. It need not identify the offender it suspects, or even the precise nature of the offense it is investigating. The grand jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses, and deliberates in total secrecy" [citations in this passage are omitted].

From 4 November 2020, the day after the election, until he left office on 23 December, Attorney General William Barr did nothing about electoral problems. The DOJ could have started grand juries in multiple suspect states when anamolies began to appear the week of the election, but did zero. When President Trump nominated Barr on 7 December 2018, I was very surprised, because of some of Barr's prior legal positions and associations. But that is another story.

At the time of the 2020 election, mail-in and absentee voting had been greatly expanded, which has led to massive problems and some discussion. But the biggest danger which has received little exposure in mass media is in electronic voting and counting machines. In an electronic voting machine, the hidden electronic processes become the ballot -- not "your ballot" -- and the tabulation of ballots is also done by hidden electronic processes. No audit trail is possible. If a machine prints out a receipt with a bar code on it, that is not a ballot and it cannot be part of an audit. An audit requires original documents and items for every step in a process.

The voting machine companies like to say their computer software code is "proprietary" and cannot be made public, and the stupid state and local governments seem to go along with it. Even if software source code is revealed in secret to a state agency, it can be changed later to permit fraud, and the governments will not know it.

The problem of electronic voting machines was started and promoted nationwide in 2002 by Congress in the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) [3]. It promised states federal tax money if the states would implement some of its laughable "standards". Around 2004 or so, a group in San Antonio talked to me about the machines and a legal case, and I drafted a lawsuit paper to file and obtained an expert witness. But then the county's governing body offered them some money to educate voters about electronic voting machines, and they decided to not proceed with a case. At that time, the county election administration had electronic machines, and a maintenance contract that was expensive, but nothing remotely like the racket that exists today. Electronic voting machines are big business. Georgia paid at least $100 million for the Dominion voting machines it used in the 2020 elections, and New Jersey may pay from $60 to $80 million dollars or more to update its voting machines [4].

Before the 2008 general election, I wrote an editorial about problems with electronic voting machines to the main newspaper in Bexar County, Texas, which had a population at that time of about 1,622,899. It was accepted for publication, but then I was told that a person higher up at the paper ordered it killed and that it not be published, because it was "too controversial".

Two years ago I wrote an article on the issue, emphasizing that the electronic machines were more of a problem than the hot issue of the day, voter identification cards. But since then, I have changed my opinion because absentee and mail-in voting have greatly expanded to the point where voter ID and verification is now just as big a problem as the electronic voting and counting machines are.

Peter Navarro is an Assistant to President Trump and Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, where he has consistently tried to rebuild domestic manufacturing and jobs, and cancel existing bad policies that favored China over U.S. jobs and industry. He has written two excellent booklets about problems with the 2020 presidential election. "The Immaculate Deception: Six Key Dimensions of Election Irregularities", and "The Art of the Steal: Volume 2 of the Navarro Report" [5]:

Congress is to meet on Wednesday, 6 January 2021 to count electoral votes from the meetings of the Electoral College on 14 December 2020. The National Archives is involved first [6]

"The Office of the Federal Register (OFR) is a part of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) and, on behalf of the Archivist of the United States, coordinates certain functions of the Electoral College between the States and Congress. Acting as an intermediary, it reviews the Certificates of Ascertainment and Vote before Congress accepts them as evidence of official State action in preparation for the counting of electoral votes in Congress".

The National Archives Internet website also has information from its work on the 2020 election, and links to the certificates of each Electoral College meeting from the states [7].

Some members of Congress are posturing or squirming as problems with the election have not gone away in favor of business as usual. But resistance on the big day of 6 January to voting fraud requires that the member put his or her name to a writing objecting to the electoral votes from the six most problematic states: Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada.

But under the cover provided by media publicity, the vapid statements of 12 Senators are loaded with mushy language. Senator Josh Hawley (Repub. Missouri) says he will:

"... object to highlight the failure of some states, including notably Pennsylvania [but not others?], to follow their own election laws .... He will call for Congress to launch a full investigation of potential fraud and election irregularities and enact election integrity measures" [8].

Republican Senators Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wisconsin), James Lankford (Oklahoma), Steve Daines (Montana), John Kennedy (Louisiana), Marsha Blackburn (Tennessee), and Mike Braun (Indiana), and Senators-Elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyoming), Roger Marshall (Kansas), Bill Hagerty (Tennessee), and Tommy Tuberville (Alabama) in their statement bloviate for 12 paragraphs before saying--

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed" [9].

They then say,

"We are not naive. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise".

Yes, you are not naive, but you are con-men and con-women. You declare that:

"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed".

So, Senator Ted Cruz et. al. You think you are going to set up a commission, after detailing in writing its "investigatory and fact-finding authority", and carefully audit the "election returns" in the form of millions of votes. All in 10 days, by the 20th of January.

And you 12 bulls**t artists said an audit would be only of "election returns", and would not include a forensic examination of thousands of electronic voting machines, when so far their manufacturers, along with governors and state election officials, have constantly worked to block any examination or monitoring of them. In case you Senators do not know it, computer software on an electronic voting machine operates secretly with zero transparency.

U.S. Representative Mo Brooks (Repub. Alabama) stepped up to the plate and has been in the forefront challenging the election results and the resulting Electoral College votes. He has said that more than 36 members of the House have signed to dispute the voting results in the six states in question.

Brooks then exposed the 12 strutting senators plus Senator Kelly Loeffler (Repub. Georgia) as snakes in the grass, since as of the time of his writing, only three have actually signed onto an objection, and that was to only one state apiece and not to all six states: Cruz has objected to Arizona, Hawley has objected to Pennsylvania, and Loeffler has objected to Georgia [10].

The only solution is for all votes to be on paper ballots that are counted by hand, and for Congress to repeal the Help America Vote Act.

The subject known as industrial engineering deals with designing the physical actions that are to be used to do a particular task. The military and intelligence agencies have developed procedures to create, handle, and transmit information in a secure way. High resolution cameras are now inexpensive with multiple features and can be used in vehicles [11]. You can carefully select a print shop to print the ballots, with controls and cameras to monitor their placement at polling places.

These resources can create a legitimate paper-based election system, and will not cost $100 million or more for electronic machines for one state.

The German Constitutional Court declared electronic voting machines illegal in March 2009 [12].

Congress is the culprit pushing and providing money to promote electronic voting machines starting with the HAVA law in 2002. Politicians and bureaucracies do not want to admit they were wrong or made a mistake.

When electronic voting machines are used, voters no longer mark their ballots. Local election officials no longer count them. Devices created and programmed out of public view do it. No genuine recount or audit is possible. Any fraud is undetectable, or almost so after a time-consuming examination.

The perfect crime, except it is not a crime.

It is all legal, or so the U.S. Congress has tried to say.

And no voting procedures -- including the use of electronic voting and counting machines -- were changed before the runoff elections for two U.S. Senators in Georgia on 5 January.

[1] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/multimedia/circulatory-system/vid-20084745

[2] United States v. Williams, 504 U.S. 36 (1992). Part III-A discusses a grand jury in general on pages 47-50 (pdf pages 12-15). https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/us_vs_williams_504_us_36_grand_jury.pdf

[3] Public Law 107-252, signed into law on 29 October 2002. Title 52, U.S. Code, chapter 209. Election Administration Improvement.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title52/subtitle2/chapter209&edition=prelim

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/3295/all-info

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ252/PLAW-107publ252.pdf

[4] https://www.njspotlight.com/2020/12/replacing-nj-voting-machines-costly-complicated-closed-market-few-companies-hidden-costs-security-hacking /

[5] https://navarroreport.com

[6] https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college?_ga=2.196228716.1131830736.1609885856-1366421279.1609885856

[7] 2020 Electoral College information from the Office of the Federal Register and the National Archives.

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020?_ga=2.154729080.1131830736.1609885856-1366421279.1609885856

[8] https://www.hawley.senate.gov/sen-hawley-will-object-during-electoral-college-certification-process-jan-6

[9] https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=5541

[10] U.S. Representative Mo Brooks on the status of objections to Electoral College results as of Tuesday afternoon, 5 January 2021.

https://twitter.com/RepMoBrooks/status/1346559504058638344

[11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxAyd6cqq6s

[12] Decision of the German Constitutional Court declaring the use of electronic voting machines to be illegal.

https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Entscheidungen/EN/2009/03/cs20090303_2bvc000307en.html


Deap , 05 January 2021 at 09:24 PM

A few things still trouble me that don't appear in any later dicussions of this topic, including this very good one:

  1. The fact just about every other European country and other industrialized nations now prohibit 'electronic voting" in their federal elections, due to inherent ability to corrupt outcomes. Claims "electronic voting" undermines election integrity and thereby voter trust. Which they seem to value more than the US.
  2. Hilary Clinton's recovered email around the time of the Haiti earthquake where she touts the use of Dominion Voting Systems to someone else, because she assured them they provide "very happy results".

Buckeyelad , 05 January 2021 at 09:31 PM

Thank you, Robert! Straight and to the point. We need to change this, starting right now.

Barbara Ann , 05 January 2021 at 11:27 PM

An excellent post Mr Willmann. I wholeheartedly agree with your views on electronic vote counting, the words "voting" and "machine" must be separated, for good.

Election management systems, starting with Diebold, were it appears, specifically designed to do just that; manage elections. That this started in the export market as a foreign policy tool and has now come home to roost is all too symptomatic of other such dark practices, such as the information warfare and PSYOPS we are seeing much in evidence in what is left of politics in America. The resultant corrosive effect on democracy is near terminal - how many Trump supporters will believe a Warnock win was fair?

As your personal experience attests, interest in free and fair elections can be trumped by cold hard cash. And rather than be innocently unaware of the implications of introducing electronic voting, at least some state authorities seem to have been suspiciously desperate to get systems put in with no regard for conducting the appropriate due diligence.

The "much bigger area" you describe is a logistical headache, but last I checked liberty wasn't easily achieved. In the recent Federal elections I am reading that this area may extend out all the way to Rome. More on that will come out soon perhaps.

I too was puzzled by Barr & the DOJ's inaction wrt evident widespread election fraud...

Fred , 06 January 2021 at 09:30 AM

As of this writing it looks like the election theft system put in place in Georgia is working as planned to ensure a Uniparty victory for the Democrats. The GOP will of course blame Trump and his supporters and go back to rolling in the grift over to Landslide Joe and the woman who couldn't win a single delegate.

[Jan 06, 2021] Congress Turns Electoral-Vote Ritual Into Bitter Fight on Biden questionable legitimacy

The Capitol building was placed on lockdown, with senators and members of the House locked inside their chambers, as Congress began debating President-elect Joe Biden's victory. President Trump addressed supporters near the White House before protesters marched to Capitol Hill.
Jan 06, 2021 | www.bloomberg.com

...the action hardens the bitter partisanship in Congress and is bound to leave millions of voters questioning the legitimacy of Biden's victory in the November presidential election.

... More than a thousand people gathered at a park south of the White House before dawn on Wednesday. At least three separate pro-Trump rallies are expected in Washington. Lawmakers have been given security instructions, including using underground tunnels between chambers in the Capitol and to nearby office buildings. The city of Washington has activated the National Guard, and many local businesses boarded up their doors and windows in anticipation of possible violence

The lawmakers objecting on Wednesday are poised to form the core of the anti-Biden group in the new Congress, where they will likely urge GOP leaders to refuse any deals with a president they consider illegitimate.

... Josh Hawley, a Republican of Missouri, was the first senator to indicate that he would join the effort to challenge the results. Since then, several other senators, including Ted Cruz of Texas and GOP Republicans elected to the chamber for the first time in November, have indicated they would support the effort unless there is an investigation of the voting process.

[Jan 06, 2021] Reports- Dominion Machines Breaking Down in Several Georgia GOP Precincts; Voters Told Workers Will Scan Ballots Later

Jan 06, 2021 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Reports: Dominion Machines Breaking Down in Several Georgia GOP Precincts; Voters Told Workers Will Scan Ballots Later By Kristinn Taylor
Published January 5, 2021 at 11:05am
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Georgia radio host John Fredricks said several voters in Republican precincts called his show Tuesday morning and told him that they were unable to cast their votes in the state's runoff election due to malfunctions by Dominion machines. The callers said workers at the polls told them to put their ballots in a box, telling them their ballots would be scanned later.

Fredericks spoke about the problems reported by voters during an appearance on Steve Bannon's War Room Pandemic.

Gabriel Sterling announced a problem in Columbia County, "Some issues in Columbia Co. There was a programming error on security keys for some locations scanners & pollworker cards. Voting continues on backup emergency ballots. Newly programmed keys&cards are being taken to locations via law enforcement."

First hand claim posted to Twitter by a voter in the city of Covington in Newton County, "Just voted in Newton County Georgia. Heavy republican district.. When I went to place my printed ballot into the dominion machine, the poll worked said the scanner was broken and someone was coming to fix it, I placed it in the machine slot but not in the scanner.

First hand claim posted to Twitter by a voter in the city of Covington in Newton County, "Just voted in Newton County Georgia. Heavy republican district.. When I went to place my printed ballot into the dominion machine, the poll worked said the scanner was broken and someone was coming to fix it, I placed it in the machine slot but not in the scanner.

A voter in Sandy Springs in Fulton County, "Just voted in #Georgia runoff & of course in heavily @GOP precinct at HeardsFerry -- Sandy Springs #Dominion scanners "are down." This means @TheDemocrats activist now will be in charge of scanning my vote for @sendavidperdue & @KLoeffler @BrianKempGA @KLoeffler @GabrielSterling"

A second hand account posted to Twitter, "A friend just texted in Georgia that the Dominion voting machine in Troup County is jammed. They put his ballot in a box and said they'd scan it later. The steak (sic) is back on!"

My family in GA trying to vote this morning. Was told that machines are "down" and he has to vote provisional. Here's the catch: Machines are NOT down in Democrat county. Just the Repub Co. Columbia county It's a Republican-majority county. People forced to vote with provisional ballots and told to check online later to see if the vote was counted. Next county over is Richmond Co, a Democrat-majority county, with machines that are working just fine."

More: Spalding County: "SPAULDING (sic) COUNTY, GA: Spoke with a woman who went to vote at 7am this morning. She & other voters were told the #dominion machines were down. They were not given emergency paper ballots & were told to come later. Some voters unable to come back due to work. @RealAmVoice"

President Trump reports, "Reports are coming out of the 12th Congressional District of Georgia that Dominion Machines are not working in certain Republican Strongholds for over an hour. Ballots are being left in lock boxes, hopefully they count them. Thank you Congressman
@RickAllen!"

[Jan 05, 2021] I think George Soros has the right idea to capture Attoney general positions in states. Then they sell Dominion voting machines and fix the election... pure genius

Dec 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

otschelnik

I think George Soros has the right idea using minimal bux to take of the justice system. You go down to the state level and finance the state election committees and the courts - Kim Foxx in Chicago, George Gascon in LA, Kim Gardner in St. Louis, Dana Nessel in Michigan.

Then they sell Dominion voting machines and fix the election.... pure genius.

[Jan 05, 2021] Lesson in integrity

Is Mitch McConnell a shadow lobbyist for Dominion?
Notable quotes:
"... In July, McConnell blocked two bills, one that would provide $775 million to "bolster election security," along with requiring a physical paper trail of every single ballot cast in the country, and a second that would mandate political candidates, their staff members, and their families, to notify the FBI if any foreign government offered to assist them. ..."
Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

BugMan

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) quashed two election integrity bills in July last year after receiving thousands in donations from Dominion lobbyists.

In July, McConnell blocked two bills, one that would provide $775 million to "bolster election security," along with requiring a physical paper trail of every single ballot cast in the country, and a second that would mandate political candidates, their staff members, and their families, to notify the FBI if any foreign government offered to assist them.

Dominion Lobbyists Paid McConnell Thousands Before He Crushed Election Integrity Bills, Ignored Election Contests - National File

[Jan 05, 2021] The Democrats Have Stolen the Presidential Election by Paul Craig Roberts

Notable quotes:
"... It is difficult to know or to ensure that the ballots are actual ballots from registered voters. For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump's lead. State officials have reported that people not registered -- probably illegals -- were permitted to vote. Postal service workers have reported being ordered to backdate ballots that suddenly appeared in the middle of the night after the deadline. These techniques were used to erase Trump's substantial leads in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia. ..."
"... Digital technology has also made it easy to alter vote counts. US Air Force General Thomas McInerney is familiar with this technology. He says it was developed by the National Security Agency in order to interfere in foreign elections, but now is in the hands of the CIA and was used to defeat Trump. Trump is considered to be an enemy of the military/security complex because of his wish to normalize relations with Russia, thus taking away the enemy that justifies the CIA's budget and power. ..."
"... The military/security complex favors the disunity that the Democrat Party and media have fostered with their ideology of Identity Politics. ..."
"... I would take it a little further and say that voting by mail is a method of vote fraud. The supposed safeguards are easily circumvented, as some whistleblowers have illustrated with ballots being brought forth in large numbers after election day without postmarks and postal workers being ordered to stamp them with acceptable postmarks. ..."
"... Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate. ..."
"... the most likely source of fraud that is hard to detect, is ballot harvesting. This should be outlawed as it violates the idea of a secret ballot. Somebody comes to the home of a disinterested voter and makes sure he votes (of course they will never admit to hounding the person) and "helps" them with the ballot. If the voter cannot be cajoled into voting the correct way, you merely throw his ballot in the trash. ..."
"... Living in an urban setting I often had to visit apartment buildings. Without fail, there was always a pile of undeliverable mail in the lobby under the mailboxes. ..."
"... His farewell address was just flapdoodle; it wasn't really dredged up till the 70s. Eisenhower spent eight years spreading tripwires and mines and then said "Watch out." Thanks buddy. ..."
"... As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies. ..."
"... inventive creative new ways to deceive.. first it was election machines, then mail in votes. ..."
"... The phrase "there's no evidence" is just a public commitment to ignore any evidence, no matter how blatant or obvious. ..."
"... Paper ballots as ascribed by Tulsi Gabbard legislation is the only safe option for elections. Kudos to Tulsi! ..."
"... Everyone knew about the potential for voter fraud to occur, but the entire system is corrupt, including Trump who has allowed the massive corruption within the system that was present when he entered office to persist and grow because he is a wimpy, spineless, coward, that was too afraid to make any waves and take the heat that he promised his voters. ..."
"... Why anyone voted for Trump in 2020 confounds me. I voted for him in 2016 and he has turned out to be one of the worst presidents in history. ..."
"... Trump in his cowardess and dishonesty knew that the ailing economy would harm his chances of being re-elected, so he allowed the health scare scamdemic to occur and destroy the livelihoods, lives, and businesses of hundreds of millions of Americans because he is a psychopath. Trump did not do what he promised. Trump made America worse than it has ever been since the end of slavery. ..."
"... Trump has also demanded the extradition of Assange after telling his voters that he loved wikileaks. Trump is a two-faced, lying, fraud. It has been his pattern. He consistently supports various groups and people like Wikileaks, Proud Boys, and others and panders to them and voters and tells people that he loves them, and then every time without fail when the heat is on, Trump says," I really don't know anything about them." ..."
"... "I know nothing." Trump saying "I know nothing." defines his presidency and who he is as a person, a spineless, pandering, corrupt, two-faced, narcissist, loser, and wimp! ..."
Nov 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

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Paul Craig Roberts' Interview with the European magazine Zur Zeit ( In This Time ):

https://zurzeit.at/index.php/die-demokraten-haben-die-praesidentenwahl-gestohlen/

English Translation:

A few months ago it looked like the re-election of Trump was almost certain, but now there was a close race between Trump and Biden? What happen during the last months?

In the months before the election, the Democrats used the "Covid pandemic" to put in place voting by mail. The argument was used that people who safely go to supermarkets and restaurants could catch Covid if they stood in voting lines. Never before used on a large scale, voting by mail is subject to massive vote fraud.

There are many credible reports of organized vote fraud committed by Democrats. The only question is whether the Republican establishment will support challenging the documented fraud or whether Trump will be pressured to concede in order to protect the reputation of American Democracy.

For those influenced by a partisan media that is denying the massive fraud that occurred, here is an overview of the elements of the fraud and the legal remedies. https://www.unz.com/article/of-color-revolutions-foreign-and-domestic-the-first-72-hours/

It is difficult to know or to ensure that the ballots are actual ballots from registered voters. For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump's lead. State officials have reported that people not registered -- probably illegals -- were permitted to vote. Postal service workers have reported being ordered to backdate ballots that suddenly appeared in the middle of the night after the deadline. These techniques were used to erase Trump's substantial leads in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.

Digital technology has also made it easy to alter vote counts. US Air Force General Thomas McInerney is familiar with this technology. He says it was developed by the National Security Agency in order to interfere in foreign elections, but now is in the hands of the CIA and was used to defeat Trump. Trump is considered to be an enemy of the military/security complex because of his wish to normalize relations with Russia, thus taking away the enemy that justifies the CIA's budget and power.

People do not understand. They think an election has been held when in fact what has occurred is that massive vote fraud has been used to effect a revolution against red state white America. Leaders of the revolution, such as Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are demanding a list of Trump supporters who are "to be held accountable." Calls are being made for the arrest of Tucker Carlson, the only mainstream journalist who supported President Trump.

In a recent column I wrote:

"Think what it means that the entirety of the US media, allegedly the 'watchdogs of democracy,' are openly involved in participating in the theft of a presidential election.

"Think what it means that a large number of Democrat public and election officials are openly involved in the theft of a presidential election.

"It means that the United States is split irredeemably. The hatred for white people that has been cultivated for many years, portraying white Americans as "systemic racists," together with the Democrats' lust for power and money, has destroyed national unity. The consequence will be the replacement of rules with force."

Mainstream media in Europe claim, that Trump had "divided" the United States. But isn`t it actually the other way around, that his opponents have divided the country?

As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism , the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies. Russiagate was a CIA/FBI successful effort to block Trump from reducing tensions with Russia. In 1961 in his last address to the American people President Dwight Eisenhower warned that the growing power of the military/industrial complex was a threat to American democracy. We ignored his warning and now have security agencies more powerful than the President.

The military/security complex favors the disunity that the Democrat Party and media have fostered with their ideology of Identity Politics. Identity politics replaced Marxist class war with race and gender war. White people, and especially white heterosexual males, are the new oppressor class. This ideology causes race and gender disunity and prevents any unified opposition to the security agencies ability to impose its agendas by controlling explanations. Opposition to Trump cemented the alliance between Democrats, media, and the Deep State.

It is possible that the courts will decide who will be sworn into office at January 20, 2021. Do you except a phase of uncertainty or even a constitutional crisis?

There is no doubt that numerous irregularities indicate that the election was stolen and that the ground was well laid in advance. Trump intends to challenge the obvious theft. However, his challenges will be rejected in Democrat ruled states, as they were part of the theft and will not indict themselves. This means Trump and his attorneys will have to have constitutional grounds for taking their cases to the federal Supreme Court. The Republicans have a majority on the Court, but the Court is not always partisan.

Republicans tend to be more patriotic than Democrats, who denounce America as racist, fascist, sexist, imperialist. This patriotism makes Republicans impotent when it comes to political warfare that could adversely affect America's reputation. The inclination of Republicans is for Trump to protect America's reputation by conceding the election. Republicans fear the impact on America's reputation of having it revealed that America's other major party plotted to steal a presidental election.

Red state Americans, on the other hand, have no such fear. They understand that they are the targets of the Democrats, having been defined by Democrats as "racist white supremacist Trump deplorables."

The introduction of a report of the Heritage Foundation states that "the United States has a long and unfortunate history of election fraud". Are the 2020 presidential elections another inglorious chapter in this long history?

This time the fraud is not local as in the past. It is the result of a well organized national effort to get rid of a president that the Establishment does not accept.

Somehow you get the impression that in the USA – as in many European countries democracy is just a facade – or am I wrong?

You are correct. Trump is the first non-establishment president who became President without being vetted by the Establishment since Ronald Reagan. Trump was able to be elected only because the Establishment thought he had no chance and took no measures to prevent his election. A number of studies have concluded that in the US the people, despite democracy and voting, have zero input into public policy.

Democracy cannot work in America because the money of the elite prevails. American democracy is organized in order to prevent the people from having a voice. A political campaign is expensive. The money for candidates comes from interest groups, such as defense contractors, Wall Street, the pharmaceutical industry, the Israel Lobby. Consequently, the winning candidate is indebted to his funders, and these are the people whom he serves.

European mainstream media are portraying Biden as a luminous figure. Should Biden become president, what can be expected in terms of foreign and security policy, especially in regard to China, Russia and the Middle East? I mean, the deep state and the military-industrial complex remain surely nearly unchanged.

Biden will be a puppet, one unlikely to be long in office. His obvious mental confusion will be used either to rule through him or to remove him on grounds of mental incompetence. No one wants the nuclear button in the hands of a president who doesn't know which day of the week it is or where he is.

The military/security complex needs enemies for its power and profit and will be certain to retain the list of desirable foreign enemies -- Russia, Iran, China, and any independent-inclined country in Latin America. Being at war is also a way of distracting the people of the war against their liberties.

What the military/security complex might not appreciate is that among its Democrat allies there are some, such as Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who are ideological revolutionaries. Having demonized red state America and got rid of Trump (assuming the electoral fraud is not overturned by the courts), Ocasio-Cortez and her allies intend to revolutionize the Democrat Party and make it a non-establishment force. In her mind white people are the Establishment, which we already see from her demands for a list of Trump supporters to be punished.

I think I'm not wrong in assuming that a Biden-presidency would mean more identity politics, more political correctness etc. for the USA. How do you see this?

Identity politics turns races and genders against one another. As white people -- "systemic racists" -- are defined as the oppressor class, white people are not protected from hate speech and hate crimes. Anything can be said or done to a white American and it is not considered politically incorrect.

With Trump and his supporters demonized, under Democrat rule the transition of white Americans into second or third class citizens will be completed.

How do you access Trump's first term in office? Where was he successful and where he failed?

Trump spent his entire term in office fighting off fake accusations -- Russiagate, Impeachgate, failure to bomb Russia for paying Taliban to kill American occupiers of Afghanistan, causing Covid by not wearing a mask, and so on and on.

That Trump survived all the false charges shows that he is a real person, a powerful character. Who else could have survived what Trump has been subjected to by the Establishment and their media prostitutes. In the United States the media is known as "presstitutes" -- press prostitutes. That is what Udo Ulfkotte says they are in Europe. As a former Wall Street Journal editor, I say with complete confidence that there is no one in the American media today I would have hired. The total absence of integrity in the Western media is sufficient indication that the West is doomed.


Twodees Partain , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:21 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

Never before used on a large scale, voting by mail is subject to massive vote fraud.

I would take it a little further and say that voting by mail is a method of vote fraud. The supposed safeguards are easily circumvented, as some whistleblowers have illustrated with ballots being brought forth in large numbers after election day without postmarks and postal workers being ordered to stamp them with acceptable postmarks.

It really seems to me that there would be no democrat majorities in Congress or in so many state legislatures without vote fraud.

Ann Nonny Mouse , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:42 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

So fraud is needed to protect the reputation of American democracy. Only fraud can! Thanks, PCR!

endthefed , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:53 pm GMT • 24.0 hours ago
@Notsofast

Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate.

MarkinLA , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:37 pm GMT • 22.2 hours ago

Worse than the fraud available with vote by mail is the voting of people normally who don't bother to vote. Think of how stupid and uninformed that average American voter is. Now realize how much more stupid and uninformed the non-voter is, only now he votes.

However, the most likely source of fraud that is hard to detect, is ballot harvesting. This should be outlawed as it violates the idea of a secret ballot. Somebody comes to the home of a disinterested voter and makes sure he votes (of course they will never admit to hounding the person) and "helps" them with the ballot. If the voter cannot be cajoled into voting the correct way, you merely throw his ballot in the trash.

Curmudgeon , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:43 pm GMT • 22.1 hours ago

I have little doubt that there have been massive "irregularities", particularly in the so-called battleground states, that are at play in "stealing" the election.

...The favourite phrase these days is "no evidence of wide spread voter fraud". Let's break that down. Only 6 states have been challenged for vote fraud. In the big scheme of things, 6 states is not wide spread, even if there is massive vote fraud within those 6 states. That the vote fraud is not widespread, implies that some vote fraud is acceptable, and that the listener should ignore it. Last and most importantly, in the narrowest of legalistic terms, testimony or affidavits are not evidence. Testimony and affidavits become evidence when supported by physical evidence. An affidavit with a photograph demonstrating the statement would be evidence.

Another phrase is something like "election officials say they have seen no evidence of voter fraud". I have yet to hear a reporter challenge the "seen no evidence of " part of the statement, regardless of the subject, by asking if the speaker had looked for any evidence. They won't, because they know damn well no one has.

That is how the liars operate. Not so different from Rumsfeld's "plausible deniability".

Beavertales , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:21 pm GMT • 21.5 hours ago

Living in an urban setting I often had to visit apartment buildings. Without fail, there was always a pile of undeliverable mail in the lobby under the mailboxes.

The envelopes were mostly addressed to people who had moved out or died. If ballots were sent to these people based on incorrect voter rolls, then these too would likely have been left sitting on the floor or on a ledge for anyone to take.

It doesn't take a leap of faith to know what a Trump-hating leftist would do when no one is looking. This moral hazard was intentionally created by Dems, who know that urban dwellers are transient and lean left politically.

Franz , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:54 pm GMT • 21.0 hours ago
@endthefed

Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate.

Ike's a mystery. Why did he NOT question Harry Truman's commitments to NATO, the UN, and all that rubbish? Ike was a WWII guy. He knew Americans hated the UN in 1953 as much as they hated the League of Nations after WWI. But he let it all slide and get bigger.

His farewell address was just flapdoodle; it wasn't really dredged up till the 70s. Eisenhower spent eight years spreading tripwires and mines and then said "Watch out." Thanks buddy.

endthefed , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:08 pm GMT • 20.7 hours ago
@Bragadocious

Well, agree on your points however, on the other side of the ledger, he never understood the stupidity of the Korean war (that he could have ended) and majorly up-ramped CIA activities in all manner of regime change (bay of pigs anyone?). Almost a direct path to our foreign policy now (and now domestic policy)

Notsofast , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:28 pm GMT • 20.4 hours ago
@Bragadocious

He did deploy the military assistance advisory group to Vietnam in 1955. This is considered the beginning of U.S. involvement in the war. This allowed the French to moonwalk out the back door leaving us holding the bag. In fairness this was Johnson's war however. Eisenhower did cut the military budget as a peace dividend to fund interstate system and other domestic projects. In today political spectrum he would be considered a flaming liberal.

Louis Hissink , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:30 am GMT • 14.4 hours ago

Hi PCR

As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice -- the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies.

What intrigues me is the ultimate political goal of the UN and the WEF when they anticipate a single global government centered at the UN and the absence of nation-states.

So what is the MIC going to do when there are no existential threats of competing nation-states? Or will the MIC re-engineer religious wars between the various religious groups, secular and theological? It seems the aspirations of the WEF and its fellow travellers preclude the occurrence of future armed conflicts.

Of course one needs capitalistic economies to produce the ordnance and materiels for the engineered social factions to war with each other. Yet if the Greens have their way, there will be no mining period.

More likely is the possibility that none of them actually understand what they are doing. As Nassim Taleb is alleged to have remarked, 99% of humans are stupid.

anonymous [284] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:35 am GMT • 14.3 hours ago

The total absence of integrity in the Western media is sufficient indication that the West is doomed.

It's because Western media is completely under the control of Jews, the world's foremost End Justifies Means people. The Fourth Estate has become the world's most powerful Bully Pulpit. There are still a few good ones though, brave souls they are: Kim Strassel of WSJ, Daniel Larison of The American Conservative , Neil Munro of Breitbart.

The rest are more or less lying scums, including everyone on NYTimes, WSJ, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, Fox News (minus Tucker Carlson and Maria Bartiromo), The Economist , and let's not forget the new media: Google, Facebook, Twitter. The world would be a much better place without any of them.

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:44 am GMT • 14.1 hours ago
@Beavertales -- with either vote flipping on machines or having the totals that paper ballot scanners tabulate adjust via a pre-programmed algorithm. Many elections have already been stolen this way.

But, in the vein of what you mention is this fascinating article. I urge everyone to read it. He spills the beans in detail. https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

Imagine hundreds of those people around the country over decades. There must be scads of illegitimate office holders all over. It's horrendous

Alfred , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:51 am GMT • 14.0 hours ago

Nancy Pelosi claims that Biden's victory gives the Democrats a "MANDATE" to alter the economy as they see fit with 50.5%. This proves that Biden will NOT represent everyone – only the left! I have warned that this has been their agenda from day one. Now, three whistleblowers from the Democratic software company Dominion Voting Systems, alleging that the company's software stole 38 million votes from Trump. There are people claiming that Dominion Voting Systems is linked to Soros, Dianae Finesteing, Clintons, and Pelosi's husband. I cannot verify any of these allegations so far.

We are at the Rubicon. Civil War is on the other side. There should NEVER be this type of drastic change to the economy from Capitalism to Marxism on 50.5% of the popular vote. NOBODY should be able to restructure the government and the economy on less than 2/3rds of the majority. That would be a mandate. Trying to change everything with a claim of 50.5% of the vote will only signal, like the Dread Scot decision, that there is no solution by rule of law. This is the end of civilization and it will turn ugly from here because there is no middle ground anymore. As I have warned, historically the left will never tolerate opposition.

Democrats Claim Mandate to Alter the Economy & 3 Whistleblowers from Software Company Allege they stole 38 million votes from Trump | Armstrong Economics

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 5:56 am GMT • 13.9 hours ago

DEMOCRATS TURN MENACING AS FRAUD FALLS APART

https://www.bitchute.com/embed/WMA7DXLDgzBy/

Just another serf , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:18 am GMT • 13.6 hours ago

Yes, the theft is blatant. But what are you, us, going to do about it? We really can't do much as the Office of the President Elect requires us to wear masks. For our safety.

animalogic , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:35 am GMT • 13.3 hours ago
@Curmudgeon

"in the narrowest of legalistic terms, testimony or affidavits are not evidence. Testimony and affidavits become evidence when supported by physical evidence. " Correct – but they also can become evidence by verbal testimony. ie "I saw the defendant hit the victim with a rock"

Anon [115] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:55 am GMT • 12.9 hours ago

Not only have they stolen the election but when Joe Biden and other democrats claim that President Trump caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans because of his handling of Covid 19, they are in sane. No world leader could stop the spread of this respiratory virus. However, Joe Biden and democrats have caused the deaths of hundreds of white people, while whipping up weak minded people to kill many whites. Biden and the democrats are criminals. Any one who is white, man or woman, that supports the democratic party is enabling a criminal organization to perpetrate violence on white people, including murder.

chet roman , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:05 am GMT • 12.8 hours ago

Since the article was from a German magazine it's understandable that there is no mention of "the one who shall not be named". No mention of the people behind the Lawfare group, the same people behind the impeachment, the same people providing financial and ideological support for the BLM/Antifa, the same people that own the media that spewed lies for 5 years and censored any mention of the Biden family corruption, no mention of the people behind this Color Revolution, the same people who promoted the mail in voting and those that managed the narrative for the media on election night to stop Trump's momentum.

For the public consumption the election will be described in vague terms, like this article, blaming special interests and institutions like the FBI, CIA and MIC without naming names as if an institution, not the oligarchs and chosen pulling the strings, are somehow Marxist, anti-white or anti-Christian.

Clay Alexander , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:18 am GMT • 12.6 hours ago

The interviewer quotes the Heritage Foundation does anyone even care what they say? The English Tavistock Institute by way of the CIA which the British molded from the OSS created programs for the Heritage Foundation as well as the Hoover Institute, MIT, Stanford University, Wharton, Rand etc. These "rightwing think tanks" were created to counter the CIA's "leftwing think tanks" at Columbia, Berkeley etc. Thank you British Intelligence.

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 7:24 am GMT • 12.5 hours ago

Bloat the Vote: https://www.thedailybell.com/all-articles/news-analysis/2020-wisconsin-election-fraud/

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:31 am GMT • 12.3 hours ago

Steve Bannon was just interviewing someone (can't remember his name). Apparently there are about 200 to 300 IT professionals/engineers working on these so-called "glitches" (not glitches at all) which mysteriously "disappeared" thousands of Trump votes. Then they'd dump phony Biden votes into the mix. These IT professionals are going to follow the trail.

I've also heard that Dominion Voting Systems played a big part in this scam by using algorithms. One Trump lawyer said that big revelations are coming.

We're going to have to be patient and just wait.

"The inclination of Republicans is for Trump to protect America's reputation by conceding the election."

I honestly think it's more like the old established Republicans (corporate bought) want Trump to lose because that is what their campaign donors want (Big Pharma, Wall Street, etc.) They are part of the elite, and the elite (both the Democrats AND Republicans) want Trump gone so they can continue their crony capitalist looting. They've got to appear like they're behind Trump, but I don't think they are. Of course, that's not all Republican representatives.

Sounds like they've been rigging elections for awhile now. I bet they just messed up with Hillary. I think that's why she was so upset. She had it, but they screwed up and didn't supply enough ballots.

Biff , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:39 am GMT • 12.2 hours ago

My conclusion is: They are probably going to get away with it.

My advice: Make them suffer.

sally , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:45 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago
@KenH inventive creative new ways to deceive.. first it was election machines, then mail in votes. next it will be magic carpet voting. But the votes don't count, cause it is the electoral college that elects the President.

Trump also lost a significant number who did not understand Trump was an Israeli at heart, they thought he was a uncoothed NYC red blooded American.

As far as white, black or pokadot color or any of the religions ganging up against Trump I don't think that happened, the fall out into statistically discoverable categories is just that, fall out, not those categories conspiring to vote or not vote one way or the other.

Wizard of Oz , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:46 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago

PCR seems to have trouble seeing a difference between the counting of perfectly proper votes which Pres Trump's post office delivered late which may or may not be allowed by law which can be determined in court, and fraud like the dead voting or votes being forged.

Anonymous [272] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:54 am GMT • 12.0 hours ago

The fraud is all so transparent but no one in the power elite seems to give a crap whether the public catches on or not these days. They know that the entire media which creates the false matrix of contrived "truth" that we all live in will back them to the hilt because they are actually just one more working part in the grand conspiracy. We all know that when "O'Brian" says 2 + 2 equals 5 we must all believe it, or at least say we do. We interface with "O'Brian's" minions on a daily basis but we don't know the ultimate identity of "O'Brian" (in the singular or multiple). Many guesses are made, but they hide that from us fairly well with the aid of their militaries and "intelligence" agencies (aka secret police in other times and places).

Wally , says: November 13, 2020 at 8:08 am GMT • 11.7 hours ago
@MarkinLA s://amgreatness.com/2020/11/09/on-electoral-fraud-in-2020/"> https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/09/on-electoral-fraud-in-2020/
Why Did Six Battleground States with Democrat Governors (Except One) ALL Pause Counting on Election Night? And How Was This Coordinated?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/six-battleground-states-democrat-governors-pause-counting-election-night-coordinated/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Biff , says: November 13, 2020 at 8:57 am GMT • 10.9 hours ago

For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump's lead.

In a very similar vein, it is the same thing that happened to Bernie Sanders during the primary's. Joe was down and out, and Bernie was enjoying the lead and then "Bam!" Overnight Joe is back on top.

Well, fool me once,,,,,, .,and blah, blah whatever Bush said .

Verymuchalive , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:48 am GMT • 10.1 hours ago
@Stephen Allen

Dr Roberts has referenced in the interview a UR article that goes into considerable detail about the massive electoral fraud by the Democrats and their partners. You've obviously not bothered to read it.

You're like one of those MSM hacks who denies electoral fraud without making any attempt to look at the evidence.

Sollipsist , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:17 am GMT • 9.6 hours ago
@Begemot And it's almost always a closer race than anyone would have guessed beforehand -- which I also find suspicious. How likely is it that the majority of presidential elections over the last century were decided by more or less even numbers of voters from each party, between more or less evenly matched candidates?

Really seems like they've perfected the art of putting on rigged political shows that you can't quite believe in, but don't have anything really solid to back up your suspicions. It's like the "no evidence of fraud" canard -- anything solid enough to show obvious manipulation is explained away as the exception, rather than the tip of a very deep iceberg

James Speaks , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:40 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@S Martini

Like the false accusations about Russia, delegitimizing the presidential election as fraud is turning out to be much ado about nothing.

Let's review. The Democrats perpetrated the phony 2016 Russian influence fraud, and now the Democrats are perpetrating the phony 2020 election victory.

The common elements are Democrats perpetrate fraud.

Do try to keep up.

Lee , says: November 13, 2020 at 11:48 am GMT • 8.1 hours ago

IMO this is a simple remedy to settle the election fraud mess or we will be arguing about this 20 years from now .from the American Thinker.

The candidates on the ballot must have an opportunity to have observers whom they choose to oversee the entire process so the candidates are satisfied that they won or lost a free and fair election.

That is not what happened in the 2020 election. That is the single most important and simple fact that needs to be understood and communicated. The 2020 election was not a free and fair election, because poll-watchers were not allowed to do their essential job. The 2020 election can still be a free and fair election with a clear winner, whoever that may be, but time is running out.

In every instance where poll-watchers were not allowed to observe the process, those votes must be recounted. They must be recounted with poll-watchers from both sides present. If there are votes that cannot be recounted because the envelops were discarded, those votes must be discarded. Put the blame for this on the officials who decided to count the votes in secret. Consider it a way to discourage secret vote counts in the future.

The pandemic has not been fearful enough to close liquor stores, and it in should not be used as excuse to remove the poll-watchers who are essential to a free and fair election. If we must have social distancing, then use cameras.

Certainly, there are other issues with the 2020 election. There may be problems with software, and there are issues like signature verification and dead people voting. Everything should be considered and examined, but no other issue should distract from the simple fact that both sides must be able to view the entire process. If one side is not allowed to view the vote-counting, then that side should be calling it a fraud. We should all be calling it a fraud.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/the_simplest_most_important_issue_regarding_the_2020_election.html#ixzz6dfsChU00

TomGregg , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT • 7.5 hours ago
@Anon

https://www.youtube.com/embed/OyBNmecVtdU?feature=oembed

The Spirit of Enoch Powell , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:02 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago

...Trump had control of the Senate, the House and of course the Executive between his inauguration in January of 2017 and the Midterm Elections of 2018, a total time period of 1 year and 10 months. What did he do during this time? He deregulated financial services and passed corporate tax cuts.

At the end of the day, being emotionally invested in US elections is no different to being emotionally invested in Keeping up with the Kardashians , that is to say your life wouldn't be that different if your don't follow either.

Realist , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:04 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago

The Democrats Have Stolen the Presidential Election

The Deep State Has Stolen the Presidential Election. FIFY. But they have been in control for decades they just don't care who knows now. They are taking final steps to make their control impervious to attack.

anon [434] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:06 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago
@Notsofast nd protect the actual elephant in the Oval Office: CIA.

Trumman did speak up one month after JFK was killed by the unmentionable "I" of M.(I).I.C.

https://archive.org/stream/LimitCIARoleToIntelligenceByHarrySTruman/Limit%20CIA%20Role%20To%20Intelligence%20by%20Harry%20S%20Truman_djvu.txt

This is the reason that the establishment latched on to the Eisenhowerian bon mot but entirely memory hole Trumman's far more explicit warning a freaking month after a sitting president is shot like a turkey in Dallas: it white washes CIA and NSC .

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 1:31 pm GMT • 6.3 hours ago

Why are CIA goons like Anderson Pooper serving as journalists? CIA is a criminal organization that subverts other nations.

MLK , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:32 pm GMT • 6.3 hours ago

The place to begin, and it's mind-blowing when you think about it this way, is that nothing was resolved on election night. Not who will take the oath on January 20th. Nor which party will control the Senate. Nor even who will be Speaker and which party will control the House.

Suffice it to say, a still raging factional struggle has simply moved to a greater degree behind the curtain.

I noted this movie reference on another thread here:

If your father dies, you'll make the deal, Sonny.

-- "The Godfather"

My point being, you're foolish if you ascribe certainty as to outcome at this point.

Being rid of Trump has been as close to a dues ex machina for the establishment as imaginable since he took the oath. This ineluctable observation elicits no end of foot-stomping by those who assume it necessarily says anything positive about the man.

With every persistent revision of the script they wrote for him, all ending with his political demise at least, Trump has not just survived but grown stronger. While the Democrats turned our elections into something only seen in a third-world shit hole, Trump legitimately drew 71M votes from Americans.

That's a lot of air in the balloon. Believe me, filth like Russian mole Brennan may think everything is finished once they get rid of terrible, awful Trump, but those above his pay grade know better.

Like him or hate him, Trump is the only principal not wholly or largely discredited. He was saved from destruction during his first term by the Republican base moving to protect him. That was the import of his 90-95% approval among them, destroy him and you destroy the Republican Party.

Now, despite -- or perhaps, because of -- everything they've done, that base now includes a significant number of Democrats and independents. Trump is merely a vessel for an American majority attached to this constitutional republic thingie we've got going.

Don't get lost in the details. This isn't a puzzle you can solve by internet sleuthing. The plan they executed -- to steal sufficiently to make the outcome inevitable by the morning after the election at the latest -- failed. This was evident early on Election Day (e.g. fake water main breaks in Atlanta) and necessitated their playing their Fox/AZ card and shutting down the count at least until they had removed Republican monitors.

BannedHipster , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 2:57 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

People need to stop falling for Republican bullshit.

The Republicans control:

1. The Senate

2. The Supreme Court with a 6 to 3 majority.

3. The majority of state governments by a huge margin:

https://bannedhipster.home.blog/2020/11/12/bidens-first-cabinet-pick-israel-first-zionist-jew-ron-klain/

"In 22 states, Republicans will hold unified control over the governor's office and both houses of the legislature, giving the party wide political latitude -- including in states like Florida and Georgia."

"Eleven states will have divided governments in 2021, unchanged from this year: Democratic governors will need to work with Republican legislators in eight states, and Republican governors will contend with Democratic lawmakers in three."

The Democrats have: Joe Biden, and a slim majority in the House of Representatives which they are almost certain to lose in two years.

What the Republicans are going to do is everything we hate, but they will pretend they were "forced" to do it by the Democrats – the Democrats being the minority party.

Amnesty? Democrats made us do it.

More immigration? Democrats made us do it.

The Republican party is the greater of two evils.

Rurik , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:59 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Who else could have survived what Trump has been subjected to by the Establishment and their media prostitutes. In the United States the media is known as "presstitutes" -- press prostitutes. That is what Udo Ulfkotte says they are in Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-sYUmnLnoz8?feature=oembed

Mr. Ulfkotte died of a "heart attack" in January, 2017

Rest in Peace Udo.

Zarathustra , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 4.9 hours ago

Left and right.
(What you small brains do not understand is this.)
Democrats enabling the elite to invest in far east (lower wage costs, higher profits) did abandon the working class in America. Democrats by this act did throw away the working class as a dirty rug.
Democrats with their TPP exporting most of the production to far east would totally destroy working class in USA. Trump's first act was to cancel this insanity. Democrats are insanely delusional.
Democrats were left. Left is a party that supports the working people.
So here switch occurred. Democratic party now represent the elite, and Republicans now represent the working people.
(The irony of the fate)

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:26 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hxrVAGuE7Oo1/

Robert Snefjella , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:30 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago

The headline for PCR's article is a prediction, not yet established, and incomplete.

There is an ongoing massive attempt to steal the Presidential election as well as to steal an unknown number of House and Senate seats, and who knows what else.

The 'game' is still on. Many tens of millions of citizens – actual total unknown but possibly in numbers unprecedented in American history – voted for Trump. Republican candidates for office generally had strong support, but again, the actual percentage of support is unknown but presumably larger than now 'recorded'.

There are also the many millions who ardently supported Trump, know that Biden is illegitimate, deeply corrupt, and the precursor to perils unknown. Their determination and backbone and intelligence will now be tested.

There is the electoral college process; there are the state legislators that have a say in the process; there is the Supreme Court.

There is also the possibility of pertinent executive orders that mandate transparent processes in the face of, say, apprehended insurrection via fraudulent voting processes.

There is also the matter of how millions of 'deplorables' with trucks and tractors and firearms and other means to make their point will react to obvious massive election travesty.

The conjunction of the COVID global scamdemic/plandemic, with crazed Bill Gates and kin lurking in the background with needles, 'peaceful' protesters in many cities setting fires and looting with near impunity, and a mass media that is clearly comprehensively committed to a demonic degree of dishonesty and manipulation, and lunatic levels of 'identity politics' ideology, are among the elements setting the stage for what may be an historical watershed.

The American Revolution in the 18th century, against the British Crown's authority, came about after years of simmering anger and sporadic resistance against British injustice. At some point there was a 'tipping point'. When Germany invaded and occupied Norway early in the 2nd WW, an effective resistance quickly formed in reaction, where death and torture were the known willing risk. Two years before, those forming the resistance would have been just going on with their lives.

No one knows today how this plays out.

Agent76 , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:45 pm GMT • 4.1 hours ago

Who's Afraid of an Open Debate? The Truth About the Commission on Presidential Debates. The CPD is a duopoly which allows the major party candidates to draft secret agreements about debate arrangements including moderators, debate format and even participants.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1NXhoP5bQ2M?feature=oembed

Mar 6, 2014 Truth in Media "End Partisanship"

Ben Swann explains how the new coalition of EndPartisanship org is working to break the 2 party hold on primary elections, which currently lock around 50% of voters out of the process.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/h1zRfXkOmPI?feature=oembed

Sep 5, 2012 DNC Platform Changes on God, Jerusalem Spur Contentious Floor Vote

Democratic National Convention 2012: Delegates opposed to adding language on God, Israel's capital to platform shout, 'No!' in floor vote.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/t8BwqzzqcDs?feature=oembed

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:21 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago

For those who are sick of Fake News CNN or FoxNews, watch this new channel that many Trump voters are flocking to:

https://www.newsmaxtv.com/

I am currently watching an interview with SD Governor Kristi Noem, who went on ABC to challenge George Stenopolosus' claim that there is no fraud in this election. She pointed out that there has been many allegations, including dead people voting in PA and GA, she says we don't know how widespread this is, but we owe it to the 70+ million people who voted for Trump to investigate and ensure a clean and fair election. She said we gave Al Gore 37 days to investigate the result in 2000, why aren't we giving the same to Trump?

She is extremely articulate and sounds intelligent and honest, and what's more courageous to come forward like this. I hope she runs for president in 2024, I'd vote for her.

Anonymous [721] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:21 pm GMT • 3.5 hours ago
@Chris in Cackalacky

Am I the only one who sees something profoundly spiritual happening in front of our eyes?

Yes. In reality, 5% of White men sent Trump packing. That doesn't match the GOP negrophile narrative where "based" Hindustanis join the emerging conservative coalition to make sure White people can't get affordable healthcare in their own countries, though. So we'll have to watch you parasites spool up this pedantic "fraud" nonsense until the fat orange zioclown gracelessly gets dragged out.

OutsideMan , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:30 pm GMT • 3.4 hours ago
@Drew

Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups and Average Citizens
by Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Agent76 , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:31 pm GMT • 3.3 hours ago
@TomGregg

Good post. You will gain more insight from this background on the speech and drafting.

Jan 19, 2011 Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance US National Archives

President Dwight D. Eisenhower's farewell address, known for its warnings about the growing power of the "military-industrial complex," was nearly two years in the making. This Inside the Vaults video short follows newly discovered papers revealing that Eisenhower was deeply involved in crafting the speech.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gg-jvHynP9Y?feature=oembed

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:42 pm GMT • 3.2 hours ago
@The Real World

Great article. Thanks. Agree with you about the big stealing being electronic. Trump tweeted out yesterday that over 2 million votes were stolen this way. For him to say this, they must have evidence.

Dinesh D'Souza said he hopes that when this matter comes before the Supreme Court that they will tackle once and for all what constitutes a legal vote.

Some pretty big names are involved with this Dominion Voting. It will be interesting to see what Trump's team of IT experts discover re the use of algorithms to swing the vote.

Cyrano , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:03 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago

Why (Oh, why) did Trump had to go? Because Trump is an enema to the Deep State. He was threatening to expose the biggest lie of the last 100 years – the supposed "liberalism" of US...

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:07 pm GMT • 2.7 hours ago
@Wizard of Oz

It has already been determined by the court. Pennsylvania ruled that late ballots are not to be counted.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/11/602-MD-2020-Order-Nov.-12.pdf

DanFromCT , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago
@Stephen Allen

The author refers to a body of overwhelmingly persuasive evidence of voter fraud that can be specified and quantified to provide proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal cases, not to mention hands down proof in civil cases requiring only a preponderance of the evidence to establish guilt. Furthermore, the Democrats' easily documented, elaborate efforts at concealing the vote counting process by shutting down the counting prior to sneaking truckloads of ballots in the back door is by itself powerful circumstantial evidence of their guilt. You have no idea what "evidence" means, either in general usage or in its strictly legal sense.

fatmanscoop , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT • 2.6 hours ago

The election cannot be trusted at all, just based on the insane entitled emotional state of the Globalist establishment alone. The system as-a-whole cannot be trusted, for the same reason. They are actively corrupting it in every way they can, and fully believe (as a matter of religious conviction) that they are right to do so.

fatmanscoop , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:38 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago
@Curmudgeon

"no evidence of wide spread voter fraud"

That's one of the Jew/Anglo Puritan Establishment's new catch-phrases. There's also "no evidence" that Joe Biden acted in a corrupt manner in Ukraine, even though he admitted to it on tape. There's "no evidence" that Big Tech is biased against conservative plebians, despite their removing conservative plebians' published content arbitrarily and with no State compulsion to do so. The phrase "there's no evidence" is just a public commitment to ignore any evidence, no matter how blatant or obvious.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:39 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago

https://www.trunews.com/stream/michigan-republican-governor-candidate-saw-voter-machines-connected-to-internet

Peripatetic Itch , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 2.2 hours ago
@DanFromCT

This newly discovered legal standard goes beyond "preponderance of the evidence" or even "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" to establish absolute certainty as the standard.

Just the obvious and necessary complement of the Bob Mueller standard for Russian collusion, don't you think -- "could not (quite) exonerate"? /s

Don't you dare call this hypocrisy.

Orville H. Larson , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:57 pm GMT • 1.9 hours ago
@Rogue

When it comes to protecting the integrity of elections, "low-tech" might be best!

anon [771] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:05 pm GMT • 1.8 hours ago
@endthefed

His impotence makes a lot more sense when you know the full version was supposed to be Military-Industrial Congressional Complex.

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:42 pm GMT • 1.2 hours ago
@TheTrumanShow as the reason why.

They went for a softer approach in KY in 2019. The first-term Repub Gov had a Yankee's forthrightness so they just latched onto comments he made regarding the underfunded teachers pension program and amped-it to high heaven getting teachers all in a frightful frenzy.

In that solidly Red state, with all other prominent offices on the ballot (AG, SoS, etc.) going overwhelmingly Repub , somehow the Repub Gov loses to the Dem by around 5000 votes. The "teachers pension" narrative was rolled-out as the reason. (Btw, it seems that Dominion, or another type, software was used to switch the votes in that race. I've seen video about it.)

Art , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:47 pm GMT • 1.1 hours ago
@Orville H. Larson

When it comes to protecting the integrity of elections, "low-tech" might be best!

Paper ballots as ascribed by Tulsi Gabbard legislation is the only safe option for elections. Kudos to Tulsi!

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:55 pm GMT • 56 minutes ago
@Orville H. Larson out how the winds are blowing. There is nothing good about it.

Why not this:
-- ONLY in-person voting over a 2-day period, a Sat and Sun, with polls being open from 6AM to 9PM both days.
-- Exceptions are the traditional requested absentee ballot where the voter can be authenticated.
-- Paper ballots must be used at the polls and no single box of 'Straight Vote by Party' is offered.
-- Some kind of SIMPLE scanning tabulator could be used of the ballots and with it NOT being connected to the internet.

There is far too much cheating opportunity built into our current system. That's intended, of course.
It needs to end!

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 7:02 pm GMT • 49 minutes ago

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/exclusive-based-reports-auditors-specialists-data-analysts-statisticians-number-illegitimate-votes-identified-four-swing-states-enough-overturn-election/

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No Friend Of The Devil , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:09 pm GMT • 42 minutes ago

Because you don't get it. You are missing the big picture. It was well known that these systems had the ability to be hacked as soon as they were implemented. It is also a well known fact that massive mail in ballots increases the likelihood that corrupt individuals are more likely to get away with election fraud.

Everyone knew about the potential for voter fraud to occur, but the entire system is corrupt, including Trump who has allowed the massive corruption within the system that was present when he entered office to persist and grow because he is a wimpy, spineless, coward, that was too afraid to make any waves and take the heat that he promised his voters.

Why anyone voted for Trump in 2020 confounds me. I voted for him in 2016 and he has turned out to be one of the worst presidents in history.

Trump in his cowardess and dishonesty knew that the ailing economy would harm his chances of being re-elected, so he allowed the health scare scamdemic to occur and destroy the livelihoods, lives, and businesses of hundreds of millions of Americans because he is a psychopath. Trump did not do what he promised. Trump made America worse than it has ever been since the end of slavery. Jeremy Powell said today that the economy is dead and will never recover.

The only injustices that Trump gave a damn about were the injustices against himself and his family, and has committed countless injustices against the entire country and world during his term. Trump is a corrupt narcissist. The facts prove it. Trump is such a corrupt narcissist that he was willing to destroy the entire economy based on scientific fraud, high crimes, and treason to use as political cover for his own incompetency which is the most offensive and disgusting diabolical act ever perpetrated on the entire country.

Trump has also demanded the extradition of Assange after telling his voters that he loved wikileaks. Trump is a two-faced, lying, fraud. It has been his pattern. He consistently supports various groups and people like Wikileaks, Proud Boys, and others and panders to them and voters and tells people that he loves them, and then every time without fail when the heat is on, Trump says," I really don't know anything about them."

"I know nothing." Trump saying "I know nothing." defines his presidency and who he is as a person, a spineless, pandering, corrupt, two-faced, narcissist, loser, and wimp!

Why would anyone vote for him the second time around after a record of pathological incompetency and pathological corruption? What's to approve of about him? Go ahead, investigate voter fraud it if is permitted, and if it isn't then ask yourselves why it is that a system that enables election fraud is in place, and ask yourselves who had the ability to change it and, who had the ability to benefit from it!

Andrea Iravani

[Jan 04, 2021] Another day another leak: A transcript of President Donald Trump's call published by the Washington Post:

Jan 04, 2021 | dailymail.co.uk

A transcript of President Donald Trump's call with Brad Raffensperger is shown below, via the Washington Post:

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows: Okay. Alright. Mr. President, everyone is on the line. This is Mark Meadows, the chief of staff. Just so we all are aware. On the line is secretary of state and two other individuals. Jordan and Mr. Germany with him. You also have the attorneys that represent the president, Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell -- who is not the attorney of record but has been involved -- myself and then the president. So Mr. President, I'll turn it over to you.

President Donald Trump: Okay, thank you very much. Hello Brad and Ryan and everybody. We appreciate the time and the call. So we've spent a lot of time on this, and if we could just go over some of the numbers, I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We'd be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense.

But we have a number of things. We have at least 2 or 3 -- anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn't been checked. We think that if you check the signatures -- a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County -- you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged. And we are quite sure that's going to happen.

Another tremendous number. We're going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number will be given, but it's in the 50s of thousands -- and that's people that went to vote and they were told they can't vote because they've already been voted for. And it's a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the number's large. We'll have it for you. But it's much more than the number of 11,779 that's -- the current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think you agree with that, right? That's something I think everyone -- at least that's a number that everyone agrees on.

But that's the difference in the votes. But we've had hundreds of thousands of ballots that we're able to actually -- we'll get you a pretty accurate number. You don't need much of a number because the number that in theory I lost by, the margin would be 11,779. But you also have a substantial numbers of people, thousands and thousands, who went to the voting place on November 3, were told they couldn't vote, were told they couldn't vote because a ballot had been put on their name. And you know that's very, very, very, very sad.

We had, I believe it's about 4,502 voters who voted but who weren't on the voter registration list, so it's 4,502 who voted, but they weren't on the voter registration roll, which they had to be. You had 18,325 vacant address voters. The address was vacant, and they're not allowed to be counted. That's 18,325.

Smaller number -- you had 904 who only voted where they had just a P.O. -- a post office box number -- and they had a post office box number, and that's not allowed. We had at least 18,000 -- that's on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly -- 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She's a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name]. That was the tape that's been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me and everybody else.

Where they got -- number one they said very clearly and it's been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area. And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people. There were no Republican poll watchers. Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers, I guess they were them. But there were no Democrats, either, and there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, early in the morning, they went to the table with the black robe and the black shield, and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before -- the table was put there -- I think it was, Brad, you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before, and then it was stuffed with votes.

They weren't in an official voter box; they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases, but they weren't in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it, and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it, but slow motion, and it was magnified many times over, and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.

You had out-of-state voters. They voted in Georgia, but they were from out of state, of 4,925. You had absentee ballots sent to vacant, they were absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses. They had nothing on them about addresses, that's 2,326.

And you had dropboxes, which is very bad. You had dropboxes that were picked up. We have photographs, and we have affidavits from many people.

I don't know if you saw the hearings, but you have dropboxes where the box was picked up but not delivered for three days. So all sorts of things could have happened to that box, including, you know, putting in the votes that you wanted. So there were many infractions, and the bottom line is, many, many times the 11,779 margin that they said we lost by -- we had vast, I mean the state is in turmoil over this.

And I know you would like to get to the bottom of it, although I saw you on television today, and you said that you found nothing wrong. I mean, you know, and I didn't lose the state, Brad. People have been saying that it was the highest vote ever. There was no way. A lot of the political people said that there's no way they beat me. And they beat me. They beat me in the . . . As you know, every single state, we won every state. We won every statehouse in the country. We held the Senate, which is shocking to people, although we'll see what happens tomorrow or in a few days.

And we won the House, but we won every single statehouse, and we won Congress, which was supposed to lose 15 seats, and they gained, I think 16 or 17 or something. I think there's a now difference of five. There was supposed to be a difference substantially more. But politicians in every state, but politicians in Georgia have given affidavits and are going to that, that there was no way that they beat me in the election, that the people came out, in fact, they were expecting to lose, and then they ended up winning by a lot because of the coattails. And they said there's no way, that they've done many polls prior to the election, that there was no way that they won.

Ballots were dropped in massive numbers. And we're trying to get to those numbers and we will have them.

They'll take a period of time. Certified. But but they're massive numbers. And far greater than the 11,779.

The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.

The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots. Then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas. And this may or may not be true . . . this just came up this morning, that they are burning their ballots, that they are shredding, shredding ballots and removing equipment. They're changing the equipment on the Dominion machines and, you know, that's not legal.

And they supposedly shredded I think they said 300 pounds of, 3,000 pounds of ballots. And that just came to us as a report today. And it is a very sad situation.

But Brad, if you took the minimum numbers where many, many times above the 11,779, and many of those numbers are certified, or they will be certified, but they are certified. And those are numbers that are there, that exist. And that beat the margin of loss, they beat it, I mean, by a lot, and people should be happy to have an accurate count instead of an election where there's turmoil.

I mean there's turmoil in Georgia and other places. You're not the only one, I mean, we have other states that I believe will be flipping to us very shortly. And this is something that -- you know, as an example, I think it in Detroit, I think there's a section, a good section of your state actually, which we're not sure so we're not going to report it yet. But in Detroit, we had, I think it was, 139 percent of the people voted. That's not too good.

In Pennsylvania, they had well over 200,000 more votes than they had people voting. And that doesn't play too well, and the legislature there is, which is Republican, is extremely activist and angry. I mean, there were other things also that were almost as bad as that. But they had as an example, in Michigan, a tremendous number of dead people that voted. I think it was, I think, Mark, it was 18,000. Some unbelievably high number, much higher than yours, you were in the 4-5,000 category.

And that was checked out laboriously by going through, by going through the obituary columns in the newspapers.

So I guess with all of it being said, Brad, the bottom line, and provisional ballots, again, you know, you'll have to tell me about the provisional ballots, but we have a lot of people that were complaining that they weren't able to vote because they were already voted for. These are great people.

And, you know, they were shellshocked. I don't know if you call that provisional ballots. In some states, we had a lot of provisional ballot situations where people were given a provisional ballot because when they walked in on November 3 and they were already voted for.

So that's it. I mean, we have many, many times the number of votes necessary to win the state. And we won the state, and we won it very substantially and easily, and we're getting, we have, much of this is a very certified, far more certified than we need. But we're getting additional numbers certified, too. And we're getting pictures of dropboxes being delivered and delivered late. Delivered three days later, in some cases, plus we have many affidavits to that effect.

Meadows: So, Mr. President, if I might be able to jump in, and I'll give Brad a chance. Mr. Secretary, obviously there is, there are allegations where we believe that not every vote or fair vote and legal vote was counted, and that's at odds with the representation from the secretary of state's office.

What I'm hopeful for is there some way that we can, we can find some kind of agreement to look at this a little bit more fully? You know the president mentioned Fulton County.

But in some of these areas where there seems to be a difference of where the facts seem to lead, and so Mr. Secretary, I was hopeful that, you know, in the spirit of cooperation and compromise, is there something that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that's less litigious?

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger: Well, I listened to what the president has just said. President Trump, we've had several lawsuits, and we've had to respond in court to the lawsuits and the contentions. We don't agree that you have won. And we don't -- I didn't agree about the 200,000 number that you'd mentioned. I'll go through that point by point.

What we have done is we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue and then on the state House, the government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago, we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election. Going back, primarily what you've talked about here focused in on primarily, I believe, is the absentee ballot process. I don't believe that you're really questioning the Dominion machines. Because we did a hand re-tally, a 100 percent re-tally of all the ballots, and compared them to what the machines said and came up with virtually the same result. Then we did the recount, and we got virtually the same result. So I guess we can probably take that off the table.

I don't think there's an issue about that.

Trump: Well, Brad. Not that there's not an issue, because we have a big issue with Dominion in other states and perhaps in yours. But we haven't felt we needed to go there. And just to, you know, maybe put a little different spin on what Mark is saying, Mark Meadows, yeah we'd like to go further, but we don't really need to. We have all the votes we need.

You know, we won the state. If you took, these are the most minimal numbers, the numbers that I gave you, those are numbers that are certified, your absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses, your out-of-state voters, 4,925. You know when you add them up, it's many more times, it's many times the 11,779 number. So we could go through, we have not gone through your Dominion. So we can't give them blessing. I mean, in other states, we think we found tremendous corruption with Dominion machines, but we'll have to see.

But we only lost the state by that number, 11,000 votes, and 779. So with that being said, with just what we have, with just what we have, we're giving you minimal, minimal numbers. We're doing the most conservative numbers possible; we're many times, many, many times above the margin. And so we don't really have to, Mark, I don't think we have to go through . . .

Meadows: Right

Trump: Because what's the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by half a million votes. I think I probably did win it by half a million. You know, one of the things that happened, Brad, is we have other people coming in now from Alabama and from South Carolina and from other states, and they're saying it's impossible for you to have lost Georgia. We won. You know in Alabama, we set a record, got the highest vote ever. In Georgia, we set a record with a massive amount of votes. And they say it's not possible to have lost Georgia.

And I could tell you by our rallies. I could tell you by the rally I'm having on Monday night, the place, they already have lines of people standing out front waiting. It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not possible. When I heard it was close, I said there's no way. But they dropped a lot of votes in there late at night. You know that, Brad. And that's what we are working on very, very stringently. But regardless of those votes, with all of it being said, we lost by essentially 11,000 votes, and we have many more votes already calculated and certified, too.

And so I just don't know, you know, Mark, I don't know what's the purpose. I won't give Dominion a pass because we found too many bad things. But we don't need Dominion or anything else. We have won this election in Georgia based on all of this. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. You know, I mean, having the correct -- the people of Georgia are angry. And these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night. Along with others that we're going to have by that time, which are much more substantial even. And the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated. Because the 2,236 in absentee ballots. I mean, they're all exact numbers that were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut 'em in half, cut 'em in half and cut 'em in half again, it's more votes than we need.

Raffensperger: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen, and they were surprised.

But they -- I guess there was a person named Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data, and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that's wrong.

Trump: Well, Cleta, how do you respond to that? Maybe you tell me?

Trump attorney Cleta Mitchell: Well, I would say, Mr. Secretary, one of the things that we have requested and what we said was, if you look, if you read our petition, it said that we took the names and birth years, and we had certain information available to us. We have asked from your office for records that only you have, and so we said there is a universe of people who have the same name and same birth year and died.

But we don't have the records that you have. And one of the things that we have been suggesting formally and informally for weeks now is for you to make available to us the records that would be necessary --

Trump: But, Cleta, even before you do that, and not even including that, that's why I hardly even included that number, although in one state, we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So I don't know -- I'm sure we do in Georgia, too. I'm sure we do in Georgia, too.

But we're so far ahead. We're so far ahead of these numbers, even the phony ballots of [name] , known scammer. You know the Internet? You know what was trending on the Internet? "Where's [name]?" Because they thought she'd be in jail. "Where's [name]?" It's crazy, it's crazy. That was. The minimum number is 18,000 for [name] , but they think it's probably about 56,000, but the minimum number is 18,000 on the [name] night where she ran back in there when everybody was gone and stuffed, she stuffed the ballot boxes. Let's face it, Brad, I mean. They did it in slow motion replay magnified, right? She stuffed the ballot boxes. They were stuffed like nobody has ever seen them stuffed before.

So there's a term for it when it's a machine instead of a ballot box, but she stuffed the machine. She stuffed the ballot. Each ballot went three times, they were showing: Here's ballot No 1. Here it is a second time, third time, next ballot.

I mean, look. Brad. We have a new tape that we're going to release. It's devastating. And by the way, that one event, that one event is much more than the 11,000 votes that we're talking about. It's, you know, that one event was a disaster. And it's just, you know, but it was, it was something, it can't be disputed. And again, we have a version that you haven't seen, but it's magnified. It's magnified, and you can see everything. For some reason, they put it in three times, each ballot, and I don't know why. I don't know why three times. Why not five times, right? Go ahead.

Raffensperger: You're talking about the State Farm video. And I think it's extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. The next day, we brought in WSB-TV, and we let them show, see the full run of tape, and what you'll see, the events that transpired are nowhere near what was projected by, you know --

Trump: But where were the poll watchers, Brad? There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.

It was late in the evening, late in the, early in the morning, and there was nobody else in the room. Where were the poll watchers, and why did they say a water main broke, which they did and which was reported in the newspapers? They said they left. They ran out because of a water main break, and there was no water main. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no water main break. But we're, if you take out everything, where were the Republican poll watchers, even where were the Democrat pollwatchers, because there were none.

And then you say, well, they left their station, you know, if you look at the tape, and this was, this was reviewed by professional police and detectives and other people, when they left in a rush, everybody left in a rush because of the water main, but everybody left in a rush. These people left their station.

When they came back, they didn't go to their station. They went to the apron, wrapped around the table, under which were thousands and thousands of ballots in a box that was not an official or a sealed box. And then they took those. They went back to a different station. So if they would have come back, they would have walked to their station, and they would have continued to work. But they couldn't do even that because that's illegal, because they had no Republican pollwatchers. And remember, her reputation is -- she's known all over the Internet, Brad. She's known all over.

I'm telling you, "Where's [name] " was one of the hot items . . . [name] They knew her. "Where's [name]?" So Brad, there can be no justification for that. And I, you know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. But that was -- and Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put 'em in three times.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that, and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.

Trump: Where was everybody else at that late time in the morning? Where was everybody? Where were the Republicans? Where were the security guards? Were the people that were there just a little while before when everyone ran out of the room. How come we had no security in the room. Why did they run to the bottom of the table? Why do they run there and just open the skirt and rip out the votes. I mean, Brad. And they were sitting there, I think for five hours or something like that, the votes.

Raffensperger : Mr. President, we'll send you the link from WSB.

Trump: I don't care about the link. I don't need it. Brad, I have a much better --

Mitchell: I will tell you. I've seen the tape. The full tape. So has Alex. We've watched it. And what we saw and what we've confirmed in the timing is that they made everybody leave -- we have sworn affidavits saying that. And then they began to process ballots. And our estimate is that there were roughly 18,000 ballots. We don't know that. If you know that . . .

Trump: It was 18,000 ballots, but they used each one three times.

Mitchell: Well, I don't know about that.

Trump: I do think we had ours magnified out.

Mitchell: I've watched the entire tape.

Trump: Nobody can make a case for that, Brad. Nobody. I mean, look, you'd have to be a child to think anything other than that. Just a child.

Mitchell: How many ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying were processed then?

Raffensperger: We had GBI . . . investigate that.

Germany: We had our -- this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was, who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents.

Trump: Well, there's no way they could -- then they're incompetent. They're either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

Mitchell: Well, what did they find?

Trump: There's only two answers, dishonesty or incompetence. There's just no way. Look. There's no way. And on the other thing, I said too, there is no way. I mean, there's no way that these things could have been, you know, you have all these different people that voted, but they don't live in Georgia anymore. What was that number, Cleta? That was a pretty good number, too.

Mitchell: The number who have registered out of state after they moved from Georgia. And so they had a date when they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state, and then it's like 4,500, I don't have that number right in front of me.

Trump: And then they came back in, and they voted.

Mitchell: And voted. Yeah.

Trump: I thought that was a large number, though. It was in the 20s.

Ryan Germany, Raffensberger's General Counsel: We've been going through each of those as well, and those numbers that we got, that Ms. Mitchell was just saying, they're not accurate. Every one we've been through are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately. And in many cases --

Trump: How may people do that? They moved out, and then they said, "Ah, to hell with it, I'll move back." You know, it doesn't sound like a very normal . . . you mean, they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? It's crazy.

Germany: They moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there's something about that data that, it's just not accurate.

Trump: Well, I don't know, all I know is that it is certified. And they moved out of Georgia, and they voted. It didn't say they moved back in, Cleta, did it?

Mitchell: No, but I mean, we're looking at the voter registration. Again, if you have additional records, we've been asking for that, but you haven't shared any of that with us. You just keep saying you investigated the allegations.

Trump: Cleta, a lot of it you don't need to be shared. I mean, to be honest, they should share it. They should share it because you want to get to an honest election.

I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I'm just going by small numbers, when you add them up, they're many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes.

Do you think it's possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that's what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery.

Do you know anything about that? Because that's illegal, right?

Germany: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.

Trump: But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?

Germany: No.

Trump: Are you sure, Ryan?

Germany: I'm sure. I'm sure, Mr. President.

Trump: What about, what about the ballots. The shredding of the ballots. Have they been shredding ballots?

Germany: The only investigation that we have into that -- they have not been shredding any ballots. There was an issue in Cobb County where they were doing normal office shredding, getting rid of old stuff, and we investigated that. But this stuff from, you know, from you know past elections.

Trump: It doesn't pass the smell test because we hear they're shredding thousands and thousands of ballots, and now what they're saying, "Oh, we're just cleaning up the office." You know.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they -- people can say anything.

Trump: Oh this isn't social media. This is Trump media. It's not social media. It's really not; it's not social media. I don't care about social media. I couldn't care less. Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side, you know. I don't even know why you have a side because you should want to have an accurate election. And you're a Republican.

Raffensperger: We believe that we do have an accurate election.

Trump: No, no you don't. No, no you don't. You don't have. Not even close. You're off by hundreds of thousands of votes. And just on the small numbers, you're off on these numbers, and these numbers can't be just -- well, why wont? -- Okay. So you sent us into Cobb County for signature verification, right? You sent us into Cobb County, which we didn't want to go into. And you said it would be open to the public. So we had our experts there, they weren't allowed into the room. But we didn't want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn't give it to us. Now, why aren't we doing signature -- and why can't it be open to the public?

And why can't we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs who will never find anything and don't want to find anything? They don't want to find, you know they don't want to find anything. Someday you'll tell me the reason why, because I don't understand your reasoning, but someday you'll tell me the reason why. But why don't you want to find?

Germany: Mr. President, we chose Cobb County --

Trump: Why don't you want to find . . . What?

Germany: Sorry, go ahead.

Trump: So why did you do Cobb County? We didn't even request -- we requested Fulton County, not Cobb County. Go ahead, please. Go ahead.

Germany: We chose Cobb County because that was the only county where there's been any evidence submitted that the signature verification was not properly done.

Trump: No, but I told you. We're not, we're not saying that.

Mitchell: We did say that.

Trump: Fulton County. Look. Stacey, in my opinion, Stacey is as dishonest as they come. She has outplayed you . . . at everything. She got you to sign a totally unconstitutional agreement, which is a disastrous agreement. You can't check signatures. I can't imagine you're allowed to do harvesting, I guess, in that agreement. That agreement is a disaster for this country. But she got you somehow to sign that thing, and she has outsmarted you at every step.

And I hate to imagine what's going to happen on Monday or Tuesday, but it's very scary to people. You know, when the ballots flow in out of nowhere. It's very scary to people. That consent decree is a disaster. It's a disaster. A very good lawyer who examined it said they've never seen anything like it.

Raffensperger: Harvesting is still illegal in the state of Georgia. And that settlement agreement did not change that one iota.

Trump: It's not a settlement agreement, it's a consent decree. It even says consent decree on it, doesn't it? It uses the term consent decree. It doesn't say settlement agreement. It's a consent decree. It's a disaster.

Raffensperger: It's a settlement agreement.

Trump: What's written on top of it?

Raffensperger: Ryan?

Germany: I don't have it in front of me, but it was not entered by the court, it's not a court order.

Trump: But Ryan, it's called a consent decree, is that right? On the paper. Is that right?

Germany: I don't. I don't. I don't believe so, but I don't have it in front of me.

Trump: Okay, whatever, it's a disaster. It's a disaster. Look. Here's the problem. We can go through signature verification, and we'll find hundreds of thousands of signatures, if you let us do it. And the only way you can do it, as you know, is to go to the past. But you didn't do that in Cobb County. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on November whatever. Recently. And compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you'll find that you have many different signatures. But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren't even signed and you have many that are forgeries.

Okay, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes because Fulton County is totally corrupt, and so is she totally corrupt.

And they're going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they're laughing at you. And you've taken a state that's a Republican state, and you've made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody's ever cheated before. And I don't care how long it takes me, you know, we're going to have other states coming forward -- pretty good.

But I won't . . . this is never . . . this is . . . We have some incredible talent said they've never seen anything . . . Now the problem is they need more time for the big numbers. But they're very substantial numbers. But I think you're going to fine that they -- by the way, a little information -- I think you're going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they're brand new, and they don't have seals, and there's a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt.

And you are going to find that they are -- which is totally illegal -- it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know, what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that's a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I've heard. And they are removing machinery, and they're moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can't let it happen, and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I'm notifying you that you're letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, this is -- it's a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don't know. A lot of people think it wasn't a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But it's a big problem in Georgia, and it's not a problem that's going away. I mean, you know, it's not a problem that's going away.

Germany: This is Ryan. We're looking into every one of those things that you mentioned.

Trump: Good. But if you find it, you've got to say it, Ryan.

Germany: . . . Let me tell you what we are seeing. What we're seeing is not at all what you're describing. These are investigators from our office, these are investigators from GBI, and they're looking, and they're good. And that's not what they're seeing. And we'll keep looking, at all these things.

Trump: Well, you better check on the ballots because they are shredding ballots, Ryan. I'm just telling you, Ryan. They're shredding ballots. And you should look at that very carefully. Because that's so illegal. You know, you may not even believe it because it's so bad. But they're shredding ballots because they think we're going to eventually get there . . . because we'll eventually get into Fulton. In my opinion, it's never too late. . . . So, that's the story. Look, we need only 11,000 votes. We have are far more than that as it stands now. We'll have more and more. And . . . do you have provisional ballots at all, Brad? Provisional ballots?

Raffensperger: Provisional ballots are allowed by state law.

Trump: Sure, but I mean, are they counted, or did you just hold them back because they, you know, in other words, how many provisional ballots do you have in the state?

Raffensperger: We'll get you that number.

Trump: Because most of them are made out to the name Trump. Because these are people that were scammed when they came in. And we have thousands of people that have testified or that want to testify. When they came in, they were proudly going to vote on November 3. And they were told, "I'm sorry, you've already been voted for, you've already voted." The women, men started screaming, "No. I proudly voted till November 3." They said, "I'm sorry, but you've already been voted for, and you have a ballot." And these people are beside themselves. So they went out, and they filled in a provisional ballot, putting the name Trump on it.

And what about that batch of military ballots that came in. And even though I won the military by a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about that? A large group of ballots came in, I think it was to Fulton County, and they just happened to be 100 percent for Trump -- for Biden -- even though Trump won the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But these ballots were 100 percent for Biden. And do you know about that? A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. Does anybody know about it?

Mitchell: I know about it, but --

Trump: Okay, Cleta, I'm not asking you, Cleta, honestly. I'm asking Brad. Do you know about the military ballots that we have confirmed now. Do you know about the military ballots that came in that were 100 percent, I mean 100 percent, for Biden. Do you know about that?

Germany: I don't know about that. I do know that we have, when military ballots come in, it's not just military, it's also military and overseas citizens. The military part of that does generally go Republican. The overseas citizen part of it generally goes very Democrat. This was a mix of 'em.

Trump: No, but this was. That's okay. But I got like 78 percent of the military. These ballots were all for . . . They didn't tell me overseas. Could be overseas, too, but I get votes overseas, too, Ryan, in all fairness. No they came in, a large batch came in, and it was, quote, 100 percent for Biden. And that is criminal. You know, that's criminal. Okay. That's another criminal, that's another of the many criminal events, many criminal events here.

I don't know, look, Brad. I got to get . . . I have to find 12,000 votes, and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. That's before we go to the next step, which is in the process of right now. You know, and I watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality.

But I mean all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it's very dangerous for you to say that.

I just, I just don't know why you don't want to have the votes counted as they are. Like even you when you went and did that check. And I was surprised because, you know . . . And we found a few thousand votes that were against me. I was actually surprised because the way that check was done, all you're doing, you know, recertifying existing votes and, you know, and you were given votes and you just counted them up, and you still found 3,000 that were bad. So that was sort of surprising that it came down to three or five, I don't know. Still a lot of votes. But you have to go back to check from past years with respect to signatures. And if you check with Fulton County, you'll have hundreds of thousands because they dumped ballots into Fulton County and the other county next to it.

So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going, but that's not fair to the voters of Georgia because they're going to see what happened, and they're going to see what happened. I mean, I'll, I'll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I'm sure. But, but [name] . . . I will take on anybody you want. And the minimum, there were 18,000 ballots, but they used them three times. So that's, you know, a lot of votes. And they were all to Biden, by the way, that's the other thing we didn't say. You know, [name] , the one thing I forgot to say, which was the most important. You know that every single ballot she did went to Biden. You know that, right? Do you know that, by the way, Brad?

Every single ballot that she did through the machines at early, early in the morning went to Biden. Did you know that, Ryan?

Germany: That's not accurate, Mr. President.

Trump: Huh. What is accurate?

Germany: The numbers that we are showing are accurate.

Trump: No, about [name] . About early in the morning, Ryan. Where the woman took, you know, when the whole gang took the stuff from under the table, right? Do you know, do you know who those ballots, do you know who they were made out to, do you know who they were voting for?

Germany: No, not specifically.

Trump: Did you ever check?

Germany: We did what I described to you earlier --

Trump: No no no -- did you ever check the ballots that were scanned by [name] , a known political operative, balloteer? Did ever check who those votes were for?

Germany: We looked into that situation that you described.

Trump: No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn't a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don't you want to find this, Ryan? What's wrong with you? I heard your lawyer is very difficult, actually, but I'm sure you're a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.

But, but I'm just curious, why wouldn't, why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn't make sense. We're way over the 17,779, right? We're way over that number, and just if you took just [name] , we're over that number by five, five or six times when you multiply that times three.

And every single ballot went to Biden, and you didn't know that, but now you know it. So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it's not fair to take it away from us like this. And it's going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you're going to reexamine it, and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don't want to find answers. For instance, I'm hearing Ryan that he's probably, I'm sure a great lawyer and everything, but he's making statements about those ballots that he doesn't know. But he's making them with such -- he did make them with surety. But now I think he's less sure because the answer is, they all went to Biden, and that alone wins us the election by a lot. You know, so.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, you have people that submit information, and we have our people that submit information. And then it comes before the court, and the court then has to make a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right.

Trump: Why do you say that, though? I don't know. I mean, sure, we can play this game with the courts, but why do you say that? First of all, they don't even assign us a judge. They don't even assign us a judge. But why wouldn't you . . . Hey Brad, why wouldn't you want to check out [name] ? And why wouldn't you want to say, hey, if in fact, President Trump is right about that, then he wins the state of Georgia, just that one incident alone without going through hundreds of thousands of dropped ballots. You just say, you stick by, I mean I've been watching you, you know, you don't care about anything. "Your numbers are right." But your numbers aren't right. They're really wrong, and they're really wrong, Brad. And I know this phone call is going nowhere other than, other than ultimately, you know -- Look, ultimately, I win, okay? Because you guys are so wrong. And you treated this. You treated the population of Georgia so badly. You, between you and your governor, who is down at 21, he was down 21 points. And like a schmuck, I endorsed him, and he got elected, but I will tell you, he is a disaster.

The people are so angry in Georgia, I can't imagine he's ever getting elected again, I'll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn't you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? 'Cause those numbers are so wrong?

Mitchell: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President, one of the things that we have been, Alex can talk about this, we talked about it, and I don't know whether the information has been conveyed to your office, but I think what the president is saying, and what we've been trying to do is to say, look, the court is not acting on our petition. They haven't even assigned a judge. But the people of Georgia and the people of America have a right to know the answers. And you have data and records that we don't have access to.

And you can keep telling us and making public statement that you investigated this and nothing to see here. But we don't know about that. All we know is what you tell us. What I don't understand is why wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest to try to get to the bottom, compare the numbers, you know, if you say, because . . . to try to be able to get to the truth because we don't have any way of confirming what you're telling us. You tell us that you had an investigation at the State Farm Arena. I don't have any report. I've never seen a report of investigation. I don't know that is. I've been pretty involved in this, and I don't know. And that's just one of 25 categories. And it doesn't even. And as I, as the president said, we haven't even gotten into the Dominion issue. That's not part of our case. It's not part of, we just didn't feel as though we had any to be able to develop --

Trump: No, we do have a way, but I don't want to get into it. We found a way . . . excuse me, but we don't need it because we're only down 11,000 votes, so we don't even need it. I personally think they're corrupt as hell. But we don't need that. All we have to do, Cleta, is find 11,000-plus votes. So we don't need that. I'm not looking to shake up the whole world. We won Georgia easily. We won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But if you go by basic, simple numbers, we won it easily, easily. So we're not giving Dominion a pass on the record. We don't need Dominion because we have so many other votes that we don't need to prove it any more than we already have.

Trump attorney Kurt Hilbert: Mr. President and Cleta, this is Kurt Hilbert, if I might interject for a moment. Ryan, I would like to suggest that just four categories that have already been mentioned by the president that have actually hard numbers of 24,149 votes that were counted illegally. That in and of itself is sufficient to change the results or place the outcome in doubt. We would like to sit down with your office, and we can do it through purposes of compromise and just like this phone call, just to deal with that limited category of votes. And if you are able to establish that our numbers are not accurate, then fine. However, we believe that they are accurate. We've had now three to four separate experts looking at these numbers.

Trump: Certified accountants looked at them.

Hilbert: Correct. And this is just based on USPS data and your own secretary of state data. So that's what we would entreat and ask you to do, to sit down with us in a compromise and settlements proceeding and actually go through the registered voter IDs and the registrations. And if you can convince us that 24,149 is inaccurate, then fine. But we tend to believe that is, you know, obviously more than 11,779. That's sufficient to change the results entirely in and of itself. So what would you say to that, Mr. Germany?

Germany: I'm happy to get with our lawyers, and we'll set that up. That number is not accurate. And I think we can show you, for all the ones we've looked at, why it's not. And so if that would be helpful, I'm happy to get with our lawyers and set that up with you guys.

Trump: Well, let me ask you, Kurt, you think that is an accurate number. That was based on the information given to you by the secretary of state's department, right?

Hilbert: That is correct. That information is the minimum, most conservative data based upon the USPS data and the secretary of state's office data that has been made publicly available. We do not have the internal numbers from the secretary of state. Yet we have asked for it six times. I sent a letter over to . . . several times requesting this information, and it's been rebuffed every single time. So it stands to reason that if the information is not forthcoming, there's something to hide. That's the problem that we have.

Germany: Well, that's not the case, sir. There are things that you guys are entitled to get. And there's things that under law, we are not allowed to give out.

Trump: Well, you have to. Well, under law, you're not allowed to give faulty election results, okay? You're not allowed to do that. And that's what you done. This is a faulty election result. And honestly, this should go very fast. You should meet tomorrow because you have a big election coming up, and because of what you've done to the president -- you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam -- and because of what you've done to the president, a lot of people aren't going out to vote. And a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they're going to vote. And you would be respected. Really respected, if this thing could be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday. And I think that it is really is important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers. Because I know, Brad, that if you think we're right, I think you're going to say, and I'm not looking to blame anybody, I'm just saying, you know, and, you know, under new counts, and under new views, of the election results, we won the election. You know? It's very simple. We won the election. As the governors of major states and the surrounding states said, there is no way you lost Georgia. As the Georgia politicians say, there is no way you lost Georgia. Nobody. Everyone knows I won it by hundreds of thousands of votes. But I'll tell you it's going to have a big impact on Tuesday if you guys don't get this thing straightened out fast.

Meadows: Mr. President, this is Mark. It sounds like we've got two different sides agreeing that we can look at those areas, and I assume that we can do that within the next 24 to 48 hours, to go ahead and get that reconciled so that we can look at the two claims and making sure that we get the access to the secretary of state's data to either validate or invalidate the claims that have been made. Is that correct?

Germany: No, that's not what I said. I'm happy to have our lawyers sit down with Kurt and the lawyers on that side and explain to him, hey, here's, based on what we've looked at so far, here's how we know this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong.

Meadows: So what you're saying, Ryan, let me let me make sure . . . so what you're saying is you really don't want to give access to the data. You just want to make another case on why the lawsuit is wrong?

Germany: I don't think we can give access to data that's protected by law. But we can sit down with them and say --

Trump: But you're allowed to have a phony election? You're allowed to have a phony election, right?

Germany: No, sir.

Trump: When are you going to do signature counts, when are you going to do signature verification on Fulton County, which you said you were going to do, and now all of a sudden, you're not doing it. When are you doing that?

Germany: We are going to do that. We've announced --

Hilbert: To get to this issue of the personal information and privacy issue, is it possible that the secretary of state could deputize the lawyers for the president so that we could access that information and private information without you having any kind of violation?

Trump: Well, I don't want to know who it is. You guys can do it very confidentially. You can sign a confidentiality agreement. That's okay. I don't need to know names. But on this stuff that we're talking about, we got all that information from the secretary of state.

Meadows: Yeah. So let me let me recommend, Ryan, if you and Kurt will get together, you know, when we get off of this phone call, if you could get together and work out a plan to address some of what we've got with your attorneys where we can we can actually look at the data. For example, Mr. Secretary, I can you say they were only two dead people who would vote. I can promise you there are more than that. And that may be what your investigation shows, but I can promise you there are more than that. But at the same time, I think it's important that we go ahead and move expeditiously to try to do this and resolve it as quickly as we possibly can. And if that's the good next step. Hopefully we can, we can finish this phone call and go ahead and agree that the two of you will get together immediately.

Trump: Well, why don't my lawyers show you where you got the information. It will show the secretary of state, and you don't even have to look at any names. We don't want names. We don't care. But we got that information from you. And Stacey Abrams is laughing about you. She's going around saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she's done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you. And I only ran against her once. And that was with a guy named Brian Kemp, and I beat her. And if I didn't run, Brian wouldn't have had even a shot, either in the general or in the primary. He was dead, dead as a doornail. He never thought he had a shot at either one of them. What a schmuck I was. But that's the way it is. That's the way it is. I would like you . . . for the attorneys . . . I'd like you to perhaps meet with Ryan, ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution of this before the election. Otherwise you're going to have people just not voting. They don't want to vote. They hate the state, they hate the governor, and they hate the secretary of state. I will tell you that right now. The only people that like you are people that will never vote for you. You know that, Brad, right? They like you, you know, they like you. They can't believe what they found. They want more people like you. So, look, can you get together tomorrow? And, Brad, we just want the truth. It's simple.

And everyone's going to look very good if the truth comes out. It's okay. It takes a little while, but let the truth come out. And the real truth is, I won by 400,000 votes. At least. That's the real truth. But we don't need 400,000 votes. We need less than 2,000 votes. And are you guys able to meet tomorrow, Ryan?

Germany: I'll get with Chris, the lawyer who's representing us in the case, and see when he can get together with Kurt.

Raffensperger: Ryan will be in touch with the other attorney on this call, Mr. Meadows. Thank you, President Trump, for your time.

Trump: Okay, thank you, Brad. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you very much. Bye.

[Jan 04, 2021] Trump as an experiment. The danger for costal elite is that with such a blatant election manipulation they might eventually get a pretty harsh treatment

Jan 04, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Jan 4 2021 0:56 utc | 55

Jackrabbit #45

Another scenario I consider is that the permanent state preferred Trump to win in 2016 as they could test his blatant nationalism and MAGA concept to push the overton window waaayyy to the right and simultaneously poke Russia, China, Iran to test their malleability in the face of provocation. They were gaming in real time to assess their next strategy which was to return the D party (without Clinton) to the Presidency and Congress in 2020 being certain that their return would be further beneficial to wage aggression across the globe and enrich the Banks and MIC. I say - without Clinton - as they likely found her too big for her boots or damaged goods beyond redemption and therefore unfit for their safe use.

It keeps solid perimeters around the two party system
It further drives the trigger happy rightist cells to better organise and maintain their rage
It binds the left and reinforces the permanent state's manipulation of the fringe such as the Democratic Socialist party
It enlarges the use of wedge politics to suppress any chance of progressive legislation in a crisis

That way they maintain their capacity to steer both parties and the legislative agenda behind their opaque wall.


NemesisCalling , Jan 4 2021 1:07 utc | 56

The reemergence of the remaining loyalists to the U.S. Constitution and a truth and reconciliation moment where these coastal elites, who facilitated this arrangement and continue to administer this with China, will be given the Nuremberg treatment. That is the trajectory of history from my vantage point.

The west is in for some hard times but it is indeed for the best for the supremacy of natural religions to reemerge as victors in the Hegelian dialectic of which the globalists have tried in vain to put a lid on.

Jackrabbit , Jan 4 2021 0:12 utc | 45

Whose the goat? 'Sore loser' Trump? or Corrupt Biden?

For most, "the answer" depends on their own partisan leanings.

But I think that MAGA! is a core part of the strategy to counter Russia and China, not simply a campaign slogan to be discarded. That strategy was first described by Kissinger in a WSJ Op-Ed 10 months before Trump became the MAGA! candidate.

To breathe life into that strategy requires what Trump termed winning . Winning instills confidence and pride. And we've seen Trump's winning abilities in partisan kayfabe: the Democrats feeble/fake "resistance" has resulted in several big wins for Trump: the Russiagate investigation came up empty; Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh was confirmed despite loud objections; the impeachment trial was a farce; Flynn was found to have been set-up. Then Trump topped it off with a resounding (and very suspicious) "defeat" of Covid-19 via American bio-tech, principally Regeneron and Remdesivir.

Is this glorious streak of MAGA! winning ending? Is that what a Deep State planner would like to see?

I doubt it.

Trump was warning about mail-in ballots in early Summer. And political "war games" were conducted at about the same time :

They met virtually on Zoom, four days over two weeks in June, to hold simulations known in the military and intelligence communities as "war games."

There were 67 players – many of them high-profile critics of President Donald Trump – including law professors, retired military officers, former senior U.S. officials, political strategists and attorneys.

Instead of mapping out a geopolitical conflict, the group peered ahead to the Nov. 3 election, now less than 90 days away, and explored how the race between Trump and Joe Biden could turn into a post-election crisis.

John Podesta, a former top aide to President Barack Obama and President Bill Clinton's former chief of staff, played Biden. Two outspoken Republican critics of Trump, David Frum and Bill Kristol, portrayed the president.

After gaming out various scenarios, the group said its conclusions were "alarming:" In an election taking place amid a pandemic, a recession and rising political polarization, the group found a substantial risk of legal battles, a contested outcome, violent street clashes and even a constitutional impasse.

"We assess with a high degree of likelihood that November's elections will be marked by a chaotic legal and political landscape," the Transition Integrity Project, which organized the "war games," said in a report this week.


It should be clear that the research and planning for "war games" with 67 players would have begun months before June 2020.

Does anyone think that people like Podesta, Kristol, and Frum have our best interests at heart? As oglalla @Jan3 19:12 #22 notes, the prospect of a Trump win is scary because (as in 2016) it would be arranged for a frightening purpose: to ensure that USA/West continue and extend their global dominance up to and including war.

It has been argued by some at moa that Biden is WORSE than Trump on foreign policy (because his FP is supposedly driven by the Deep State while Trump's is not). Biden, like Hillary Bush McCain Brennan etc, is a Deep Stater and avowed Zionist. He will not undo anything Trump has done.

The advantage to the Deep State of Trump instead of Biden is that Trump is: 1) a better communicator and 2) closely associated with MAGA! patriots (aka white people). The US military has never forgotten the cardinal lesson of Vietnam: the war was lost on the homefront. And it wasn't hippies or marches in support of black civil rights protesters that caused that, it was the disillusionment of the white middle-class.

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[Jan 04, 2021] I just want to know one thing from you: Do you honestly believe Trump won the Election?

Jan 04, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Dr. George W Oprisko , Jan 4 2021 2:47 utc | 61

I just want to know one thing from you: Do you honestly believe Trump won the Election?

And then explain why Republicans have no problem with the results down the ballot?

It's okay to clamor and protest for more social justice, but what is not okay is to overturn a process where people actually exercised their will and in numbers historically unprecedented.

If you destroy fact with fiction and eliminate the will of 81,000,000 people; 7 Million more than Trump got, then does anything else matter?

Don't skirt the question: Do you believe Trump won the election?

I'll answer with numbers.....

It is acknowledged that Trump got 74 million votes.

There were 156 million voters registered....

About 62% voted... == 97 million voted.

That leaves 23 million for Biden....

This accords with the number of people at his rallies compared to those attending Trump's rallies....

Then there is the not too small issue of the 1998 Unanimous Supreme Court Decision in the Louisiana case...

"The election must occur on one day... It ends at midnight on that day"

Given that is the case... all votes not counted by midnight on 3 Nov should have been discarded... or the vote nullified...

That requirement alone would give PA, WI, GA, AZ, to Trump because he was leading in those states prior to midnight. Were this to happen Trump would win hands down....

So, to answer your question.... Trump won... Biden lost...

But to go further... Putting Biden in the Oval Office represents a loss for the electorate. Biden is corrupt, his entire career has been one trying to eliminate Social Security and other entitlement programs including Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, and AFDC. Biden is for all intents and purposes, in-competent.

The democrats should have gone with Vermont Senator Sanders... Who is not a Marxist, by any measure.

I'd much prefer Sanders... as would almost all US Citizens....

INDY

[Jan 03, 2021] Remember When The Democrats Challenged The Electoral Vote Count In 3 Elections Over 20 Years

Jan 03, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Silvio Canto Jr., via AmericanThinker.com,

What do 2001, 2005, and 2017 have in common? We inaugurated three GOP presidents, and Democrats challenged their electoral vote each time.

Yes, three for two, or three times for the last two GOP presidents sworn in.

Check out Senator Van Hollen :

Sen. Hawley's actions are grossly irresponsible.

He's attempting to undermine our democratic process, fuel Trump's lies about voter fraud, and delay the certification of Biden's win.

In the end, this reckless stunt will fail, and Joe Biden will become President on Jan. 20, 2021.

[Jan 03, 2021] Ex-CIA congressman says disputing election results helps America's enemies STEAL ELECTIONS just what the CIA always did!

Jan 03, 2021 | www.rt.com

After pushing phony stories of 'Russian interference' and working for an agency that interferes in elections, ex-CIA agent now Congressman Will Hurd thinks the GOP should accept Joe Biden's win, or risk helping the US' "enemies."

A dozen Republican Senators are getting set to object to the Electoral College's certification of Joe Biden's win in November, unless an "emergency 10-day audit" is held in a number of key swing states won by Biden. The move is also backed by a number of Republican representatives in the House.

However, there's a rival faction of Republicans who want to put allegations of Democrat fraud behind them and go back to business as usual under a Biden administration. Outgoing Texas Rep. Will Hurd is one of them, and he made a novel argument against questioning the election on Saturday.

"When I was undercover at the CIA, I saw firsthand how our enemies steal elections and try to interfere in ours," he tweeted. "Elected officials continuing to sow doubt amongst the public for petty political gain is playing into our enemies' hands."

As for who these "enemies" are, Hurd was presumably referring to the reliable old specter of "the Russians." Throughout Trump's four years in office, Hurd has repeatedly claimed that Moscow meddled in the 2016 election, despite there literally being zero proof for these claims.

" This is honestly one of the most hilarious mega-viral tweets I've ever seen on Twitter," journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted. In a follow-up tweet, Greenwald joked that Hurd "must have been in a different part of the CIA" than former Director James Woolsey, who told Fox News' Laura Ingraham in 2018 that his agency had meddled in European elections during the Cold War "in order to avoid the Communists taking over," and continues to dabble in election meddling, but "only for a very good cause.

Hurd was mocked on all sides. First for condemning election interference from an agency famed for interfering in elections

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And then for bragging about his undercover status...

[Jan 02, 2021] -11 Senate Republicans say they will object to Electoral College results Wednesday- The Hill - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Jan 02, 2021 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"11 Senate Republicans say they will object to Electoral College results Wednesday" The Hill

"Eleven Senate Republicans on Saturday announced that they will object to the Electoral College results Wednesday, when Congress convenes in a joint session to formally count the vote.

GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wis.), James Lankford (Okla.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Kennedy (La.), Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.) and Mike Braun (Ind.) and Sens.-elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Bill Hagerty (Tenn.) and Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) said in a joint statement that they will object to the election results until there is a 10-day audit.

"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states," they said. "Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on Jan. 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed," they added.

The group's announcement means that at least a dozen GOP senators will object on Wednesday." The Hill

[Jan 02, 2021] Ted Cruz Leads Senators In Challenge To Wednesday Electoral Count; Demands Emergency Audit - ZeroHedge

Jan 02, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Ted Cruz Leads Senators In Challenge To Wednesday Electoral Count; Demands Emergency Audit BY TYLER DURDEN SATURDAY, JAN 02, 2021 - 13:25

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is leading a group of 11 Senators who plan to object to certifying state Electoral College votes on Wednesday.

The group, which includes Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), James Lankford (R-Okla.), Steve Daines (R-Mont.), John Kennedy (R-La.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), and Mike Braun (R-Ind.), and Senators-Elect Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.), Roger Marshall (R-Kan.), Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.), and Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), are also calling for the resurrection of an Electoral Commission to conduct an emergency audit of the results .

According to Axios , the move pits the group of GOP Senators against Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who had 'hoped to avoid the spectacle of his party leading a last-ditch effort to prevent Joe Biden from being declared the 2020 election winner.'

The move comes after Sen. Josh Howley (R-MO) said that he would raise a general objection .

"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed," the eleven Senators said in a statement.

Notably, Democrats have raised similar election challenges in the past.

The last three times a Republican has been elected president -- Trump in 2016 and George W. Bush in both 2000 and 2004 -- Democrats in the House have brought objections to the electoral votes in states the GOP nominee won . In early 2005 specifically, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., along with Rep. Stephanie Tubbs, D-Ohio, objected to Bush's 2004 electoral votes in Ohio. -PJ Media

See below for the full text of a joint statement from the Cruz-led coalition :

"America is a Republic whose leaders are chosen in democratic elections. Those elections, in turn, must comply with the Constitution and with federal and state law.

"When the voters fairly decide an election, pursuant to the rule of law, the losing candidate should acknowledge and respect the legitimacy of that election. And, if the voters choose to elect a new office-holder, our Nation should have a peaceful transfer of power.

"The election of 2020, like the election of 2016, was hard fought and, in many swing states, narrowly decided. The 2020 election, however, featured unprecedented allegations of voter fraud, violations and lax enforcement of election law, and other voting irregularities.

"Voter fraud has posed a persistent challenge in our elections, although its breadth and scope are disputed. By any measure, the allegations of fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes.

"And those allegations are not believed just by one individual candidate. Instead, they are widespread. Reuters/Ipsos polling , tragically, shows that 39% of Americans believe 'the election was rigged.' That belief is held by Republicans (67%), Democrats (17%), and Independents (31%).

"Some Members of Congress disagree with that assessment, as do many members of the media.

"But, whether or not our elected officials or journalists believe it, that deep distrust of our democratic processes will not magically disappear. It should concern us all. And it poses an ongoing threat to the legitimacy of any subsequent administrations.

"Ideally, the courts would have heard evidence and resolved these claims of serious election fraud. Twice, the Supreme Court had the opportunity to do so; twice, the Court declined.

"On January 6, it is incumbent on Congress to vote on whether to certify the 2020 election results. That vote is the lone constitutional power remaining to consider and force resolution of the multiple allegations of serious voter fraud.

"At that quadrennial joint session, there is long precedent of Democratic Members of Congress raising objections to presidential election results, as they did in 1969, 2001, 2005, and 2017. And, in both 1969 and 2005, a Democratic Senator joined with a Democratic House Member in forcing votes in both houses on whether to accept the presidential electors being challenged.

"The most direct precedent on this question arose in 1877, following serious allegations of fraud and illegal conduct in the Hayes-Tilden presidential race. Specifically, the elections in three states-Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina-were alleged to have been conducted illegally.

"In 1877, Congress did not ignore those allegations, nor did the media simply dismiss those raising them as radicals trying to undermine democracy. Instead, Congress appointed an Electoral Commission-consisting of five Senators, five House Members, and five Supreme Court Justices-to consider and resolve the disputed returns.

"We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed.

"We are not naïve. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise. But support of election integrity should not be a partisan issue. A fair and credible audit-conducted expeditiously and completed well before January 20-would dramatically improve Americans' faith in our electoral process and would significantly enhance the legitimacy of whoever becomes our next President. We owe that to the People.

"These are matters worthy of the Congress, and entrusted to us to defend. We do not take this action lightly. We are acting not to thwart the democratic process, but rather to protect it. And every one of us should act together to ensure that the election was lawfully conducted under the Constitution and to do everything we can to restore faith in our Democracy."

WorldView 14 minutes ago remove link

Precisely because it was a rigged election, and both the Deep State and the Lawmakers, will have nothing to do with looking into possible widespread fraud.

There is only one solution that is fair and moral.

Re-do the election.

A citizen must vote in person, and show ID.

Military and nursing homes are allowed to Absentee Vote. All others, vote in person.

If you can't get up off your *** and walk down to the polling station, then you don't deserve to vote.

Once we do this, I will, for one, accept any result.

Otherwise, this was a sham election, which will have incredible ill-results for America.

[Jan 02, 2021] Orwell taught us how to understand double-speak "Most secure" translates to "rigged"

Notable quotes:
"... If this is the cleanest election ever, omg can you imagine what's went on in the past! ..."
Dec 30, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Trump Team Hacks Dominion Machine In Real Time During Senate Hearing! - YouTube

Violence is Life , 2 days ago

Orwell taught us how to understand double-speak "Most secure" translates to "rigged"

Jason Stewart , 2 days ago

If this is the cleanest election ever, omg can you imagine what's went on in the past!

Cameron Gunn , 2 days ago

Did you hear the Democrats screaming for him to shut up? This shit is hilarious

Phalanx443 , 1 day ago

It's like peeling an onion. Each layer reveals more corruption. I cannot wait to see how this movie ends!

[Jan 02, 2021] Trump Team Hacks Dominion Machine In Real Time During Senate Hearing!

So WiFi was on.
Dec 30, 2020 | www.youtube.com
On Wednesday during a hearing in front of Georgia State Senators, inventor Jovan Pulitzer testified that his team found a polling location in Fulton County, GA, that was connected to the internet so they were able to hack into the Dominion Voting machines system and take over the poll pad and establish a two way communication of sending and receiving data. All this was happening in real-time while Mr. Pulitzer was testifying.

Poll locations are not supposed to have internet access. The polling site in question is being used for the current Georgia Senate runoff elections so this confirms that the runoff is connected to the internet. It appears that the Georgia Senate runoff elections are rigged just like the 2020 election. Are you okay with this? Stay tuned!



David Mel
, 2 days ago

Remember these machines were created for elections in 3rd world countries.


Dr. Calvin
, 2 days ago

This means the whole election was a fraud. Throw the disputed ballots out, PERIOD!!!


Henry1965ism
, 2 days ago

MSM: "The Dominion voting machines were hacked in real time during a Senate hearing but Trump has not provided any evidence of election fraud."

Violence is Life , 2 days ago

Orwell taught us how to understand double-speak "Most secure" translates to "rigged"


Johnny Rotten
, 2 days ago

It's incredible that this isn't plastered alll over the news


Bruce McKnight
, 2 days ago

The problem with the indisputable evidence isn't that it's being disputed. It's being blatantly ignored. We are losing our country, our middle class and our freedom because truly evil people are not being forced to follow the laws.


J Ad
, 1 day ago

"Most secure election ever" unless there is a smart thermostat in the room... or any wireless device... oh and the USB slots on the side of the machines... and then there is the free downloadable version of the code we used to program the machines... and the instructions on how to hack our machines on numerous websites... But other than that this is the most secure election ever.


michelle kincaid
, 2 days ago (edited)

There was a guy that testified a while back about the claim that these machines are not connected to the internet. I don't remember his name, which state, or anything like that. Just that he was on via a zoom call. Anyhow, this guy said that on election night there was a machine that wasn't working properly because it was coded to the wrong location or precinct. The poll Supervisor called support which i believe he said was in Colorado. They were able to remote into the computer & fix it. An internet connection must be present for remote support. The guy even had a print out record of the call.

[Jan 02, 2021] In 2020, Vote Fraud Claims Were Not 'Baseless' - Newsmax.com

Jan 02, 2021 | www.newsmax.com

Each time a member of the big media reports on someone referring to acts of fraud or even irregularities in the Nov. 3 presidential election, they describe them as "baseless claims" or "unproven."

Such words are included in almost wire story since election day published by the Associated Press, Reuters, Bloomberg, and others.

Actually, there are many examples of vote fraud that took place during the 2020 election, and serious evidence of voting irregularities relating to the main-in ballots.

Here is what we do know:

Nevada: The Silver State rushed a universal vote-by-mail measure through the legislature in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. The bill, known as AB 4, lacked safeguards to assure voter identity and was implemented without cleaning voter rolls of deceased voters, those who had moved, or who had become ineligible to vote.

Attorney Jesse Binnall testified before the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Dec. 16 as to what resulted.

He had proof of nearly 90,000 fraudulent or improper votes that were cast, including instances where:

Considering Biden took Nevada by 33,596 votes , these allegations are serious.

Arizona: The Arizona Republican Party alleges more than 100,000 ballots might have been improperly cast in the Grand Canyon State, including some 28,000 duplicated ballots in Maricopa County alone.

Arizona GOP party chairwoman Dr. Kelli Ward also addressed in one of her video reports the subject of "fake news" outlets, that tend to mischaracterize allegations of voter fraud.

"We are trying to have integrity in our electoral process," she said, adding: "We have every right to make legal challenges."

Again, only 10,457 votes separate Biden and President Donald Trump on Arizona, a 0.3% difference.

Wisconsin: President Trump's legal team sought to have some 221,000 ballots disqualified that were cast in the state's two most heavily Democratic counties -- Dane and Milwaukee.

At issue were incomplete absentee ballot envelopes where clerks filled in missing information, as well as those that were issued without a proper request, and still others that were the subject of ballot harvesting.

In a narrow 4-3 ruling, the Wisconsin Supreme Court rejected the challenge, claiming the campaign was "not entitled to the relief it seeks."

The campaign filed its petition for a writ of certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday.

Only 20,682 votes separate Trump and Biden in the Badger State, 0.61%.

One can hardly say this is a "baseless" claim, and pure reason has many people suspicious.

Biden underperformed Obama in 80% of Wisconsin counties but hugely outperformed in just five counties to win the state.

Michigan: While the Trump campaign has made an issue of the voting systems and software used throughout the state, allegations of widespread fraud remain unproven.

The Trump legal team has presented additional evidence of voter fraud and irregularities before the Michigan state Senate Oversight Committee on Dec. 1.

In one instance, a "Guard the Vote" volunteer testified he went through 30,000 of the 172,000 Detroit absentee ballots -- about 17%. Some 229 were dead voters and 2,660 listed invalid addresses.

Finally, Republican poll watchers were denied access for proper ballot monitoring due to alleged COVID-19 concerns.

Pennsylvania: Nothing about the Keystone State made sense.

Like Detroit, Philadelphia election officials denied Republican poll watchers adequate access into counting rooms, requiring them to seek a court order.

"Trump campaign staffers marched into the PA Convention Center with a court order giving them the right to stand 6 feet away from sorters, instead of the previously allotted 20 feet," reported CBS3 Philly reporter Alecia Reid.

Most recently, a group of 17 Republican state lawmakers released a blockbuster statement Monday, alleging 202,377 more votes were cast than there were voters who voted. State Rep. Frank Ryan, who has a background as a certified public accountant, led the investigation and released a statement.

"These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error," the statement said .

Georgia: The biggest bombshell was a video that appears to depict news media and poll watchers being ushered out of the counting room in an Atlanta tabulation center.

After all but a few workers left, suitcases of what appear to be ballots are removed from underneath a table and are run through machines.

Georgia failed to use signature verification and other measures to certify mail-in ballots. Rejection rates -- not allowing non-eligible mail-in ballots -- plummeted in 2020 from the 2018 election.

Other irregularities:

In addition to outright claims of fraud, state and local officials in at least four states -- Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia -- used the pandemic to make last-minute changes to their state voting laws.

The U.S. Constitution provides only each state legislature may set the time, place, and manner of elections.

This prompted Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to file a lawsuit against the four states with the United States Supreme Court for allegedly exploiting "the COVID-19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election."

In a statement he said, "Trust in the integrity of our election processes is sacrosanct and binds our citizenry and the States in this union together. Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin destroyed that trust and compromised the security and integrity of the 2020 election."

Despite the fact 18 more states signed on to Texas' petition, the Supreme Court dismissed the case, citing lack of standing. Only Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a student of history, compared the long list of anomalies to another election nearly 200 years in the past.

"The more data comes out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate the more it looks like 2020 may be the biggest presidential theft since Adams and Clay robbed Andrew Jackson in 1824," Gingrich tweeted . "State legislatures should demand recounts."

[Jan 01, 2021] House Republicans Plan To Object To Biden Electoral Votes

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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Republican Senate leadership opposes the planned objections. About two dozen GOP senators have said they will not object, while others have indicated opposition. A small group -- Sens. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.), Rick Scott (R-Fla.), and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) -- have said they may object.

Virtually all Democrats have said they will not object, and have criticized those who plan to challenge votes. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's spokeswoman told reporters on Wednesday that the team views the counting of electoral votes as a mere formality, while House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) expressed confidence Biden would be confirmed as president-elect.

Here are the lawmakers planning on challenging votes:

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.)
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.)
Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.)
Rep. Brian Babin (R-Texas)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
Rep. Ted Budd (R-N.C.)
Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.)
Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas)
Rep. Jeff Van Drew (R-N.J.)
Rep. Mark Green (R-Tenn.)
Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.)
Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.)
Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.)
Rep.-elect Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.)
Rep.-elect Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.)
Rep.-elect Barry Moore (R-Ala.)
Rep.-elect Bob Good (R-Va.)
Rep.-elect Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.)
Rep.-elect Ronny Jackson (R-Texas)
Rep.-elect Burgess Owens (R-Utah)
Rep.-elect Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.)
Rep.-elect Jerry Carl (R-Ala.)
Rep.-elect Yvette Herrell (R-N.M.)
Rep.-elect Diana Harshbarger (R-Tenn.)

100 Republicans?

Kicking things up a notch is Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), who told "The Bulwark Podcast" that there could be " upwards of 100 " Republican lawmakers who object to Biden's Electoral College votes.

Via Jack Phillips from Epoch:

"I think you're going to have some people that come out and take a strong stand," he said, adding that " I'm not going to be surprised if it approaches three figures ."

In the podcast interview, Kinzinger said that he does not support the initiative to object to the votes led by Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.). Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) on Wednesday said he would join their challenge, becoming the first senator to do so.

The bid requires both a senator and a representative to carry out. An objection to any state by a representative and a senator will prompt up to two hours of debate in the Senate and House on whether to accept a state's Electoral College votes; it means that if the lawmakers object to more than one state, the procedure could last for hours.

Some GOP senators said that their challenge would fail.

" Senator Hawley has every right to object, " Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told Fox News on Thursday. " But it's another thing to overturn an election of another state ."

"If dead people were voting, I want the names," Graham added. "If you're going to retry the case in the Senate that's already been tried in the federal courts it would be hard for me to basically take over the federal courts' role. But I will listen and we'll see how it comes out."

[Jan 01, 2021] When a person files for an Affidavit. They are testifying as a witness to an oath that they speak only Truth can be punished to Prison if lied

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Mark W
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When a person files for an Affidavit. They are testifying as a witness to an oath that they speak only Truth & can be punished to Prison if lied. Therefore with all these thousands amount of Affidavits being filed all across U.S. are EVIDENCE of personal testimony of voter fraud.

[Jan 01, 2021] The Lesson Of 2020- What's The Point Of Pointing Out The Hypocrisy- - ZeroHedge

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

BY TYLER DURDEN THURSDAY, DEC 31, 2020 - 17:30

Authored by Tom Luongo via Gold, Goats, 'n Guns blog,

I've been on vacation in Mexico for the past two weeks. But that isn't the reason content from me has been scarcer than normal. Yes, vacations are supposed to be for recharging and taking a break from your routine.

But as I sat down to write this morning the overwhelming sense of futility washed over me . And nothing saps your will to work more than reading through the headlines and noting the complete lack of conscience on display by the media, our political leadership or frankly anyone with half a brain.

We live in a world today where the legislature of one of the most important states in the Union, Pennsylvania, released a report where more than 200,000 votes were counted than were actually cast. And no one in our media seems to think this is news.

[Jan 01, 2021] Georgia Judge (Sister Of Top Democrat) Reverses Order To End Voter Roll Clean-Up - ZeroHedge

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

As we detailed previously , U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner attracted considerable criticism when she declined to recuse herself from a challenge over voter eligibility. Gardner is the sister of Stacey Abrams who has led the effort to register voters in the state.

Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams speaks during a conversation about criminal justice reform at the New York Public Library in New York City on April 10, 2019. (Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Many felt it was inappropriate for Gardner to rule on the case, a concern that was magnified by her quick rejection of a purging of the rolls of roughly 4000 inactive voters .

Now, as Jonathan Turley details below , it appears that Gardner has not recused herself but did reverse herself . A new order has been issued, upholding the purge in the face of an appeal.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger took issue with the original order as fundamentally wrong as to the applicable Georgia election laws.

The new order is a substantial rollback on the original order and the change was praised by Raffensperger's office.

It will allow the requirement of provisional ballots from those voters. Gardner however directs that no challenges to their eligibility be upheld based exclusively on data in the National Change of Address Registry, which Democrats have challenged as unreliable.

At a time of heightened tensions over election integrity, Gardner's decision not to recuse herself fueled further uncertainty.

Stacey Abrams' organization Fair Fight donated $2.5 million to Senate Majority PAC.

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That is the group which used Majority Forward as its nonprofit arm, and the donation was the largest to Senate Majority PAC since the November election.

So Gardner is ruling on an issue closely associated with her sister and originally ruled in favor of the group which lists her sister's organization as its largest contributor.

At a minimum, that creates an appearance of a conflict.

I can understand Judge Gardner's view that there is no real conflict. These two very successful women continue to work in the same state. Judge Gardner may have been concerned that a recusal would encourage endless such challenges over tangential links to her sister's work.

Yet, she could have recused while stressing that this is a unique time and a unique set of circumstances. A recusal could have been simply a recognition of the court that her familial tie could undermine confidence in the review. 33,584
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JamesJOMeara 8 hours ago

Judge rules blah blah blah, who fracking cares? One result of 2020 not much noticed is the complete and total loss of legitimacy by the judiciary. There have always been corrupt or just dumb judges, but the clown car of post-2016 "decisions" and "rulings" has render the judiciary completely lacking in all authority or even respect. Every decision or refusal to decide at all (more common now, as they think, like Pilate, that it absolves them of guilt) has been clearly political; all predictable once you know their party affiliation. District Judges in Bumfuk Hawaii or Arkansas overrule the President at will; the treatment of Michel Flynn -- the judge insisting on rendering a "decision" even when the Justice Department dropped the case, like the Red Queen -- etc. etc. American Jurisprudence has been boiled down to pure Leninism: who/whom. Makes things simple, especially for the courts, but renders them of as little interest to Americans as an election in Mali or the goal of "Greater Serbia".

[Jan 01, 2021] Pennsylvania lawmakers concluded that "Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification Of Presidential Results Premature and In Error."

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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Stunning turn of events in PA may lead to Trump victory On Dec. 28, Pennsylvania lawmakers concluded that "Numbers Don't Add Up, Certification Of Presidential Results Premature and In Error."

President Trump tweeted about it:

Breaking News: In Pennsylvania there were 205,000 more votes than there were voters. This alone flips the state to President Trump.

The key paragraphs from the PA lawmakers' two-page statement:

A comparison of official county election results to the total number of voters who voted on November 3, 2020 as recorded by the Department of State shows that 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted. Among the 6,962,607 total ballots cast, 6,931,060 total votes were counted in the presidential race, including all three candidates on the ballot and write-in candidates.

The difference of 202,377 more votes cast than voters voting, together with the 31,547 over- and under-votes in the presidential race, adds up to an alarming discrepancy of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between the two major candidates for President of the United States. On November 24, 2020, Boockvar certified election results, and Wolf issued a certificate of ascertainment of presidential electors, stating that Vice President Joe Biden received 80,555 more votes than President Donald Trump.

The PA lawmakers have done their job (so far). Now what is the next step? These lawmakers need to recall the slate of electors and tell the House and Senate that the election results cannot be ascertained in their state. They should probably hold a vote that overturns the certification of the awful election. The bottom line is that the slate of electors is not permitted to vote on Jan. 6.

This reasonable and fair action may have a domino effect on the other embattled states, whose lawmakers should follow suit. If this happens, Trump will win in the Electoral College. (I had erroneously stated that if no one reaches 270 votes, then the House decides.) Instead, the Twelfth Amendment states: "[T]he votes shall then be counted[.] ... The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President[.]"

But will PA's Legislature, where the real power resides, do this? And will the other embattled states do the same? If so, then Trump (rightly) wins: 232 to 222. This is the best, constitutionally speaking, and probably the only real option remaining for Trump.

Therefore, the solution is, once again, that we the people need to put maximum pressure on the heroic and truthful PA legislators to send word to the House and Senate, reminding them that the legislatures decide things, not a governor or a secretary of state. They should even hold a vote, overturning the certification of the election. And we need to put the same pressure on the legislatures of the other embattled states, where fraud obviously happened, to follow Pennsylvania's lead. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/stunning_turn_of_events_in_pa_may_lead_to_trump_victory.html _arrow 1

Hipneck911 6 hours ago

Are all you commie losers just too stupid or to lazy to look things up?

BREAKING: Members of PA House and Senate Write Letter to McConnell and McCarthy to Dispute Fraudulent Election Results After 205,000 Bogus Votes Discovered

PerilouseTimes 10 hours ago remove link

All a show. We know Trump won the election. They kicked out poll watchers and counted votes in the middle of night when no one was watching. Why all the if irregularities exist crap? You are being played once again by fake politicians.

[Jan 01, 2021] Wayne Dupree -- With just 20 days left to save President Trump - and America - we need to act decisively now

Jan 01, 2021 | www.rt.com

Before I really get into my message, let me remind you that we Americans created this situation that we find ourselves currently in. We sold them enough rope to hang us. We did nothing when they attempted to frame our president and remove him from office. The Russia Hoax, the Ukraine Hoax, the spying on his campaign, and then finally the phony impeachment.

We didn't stand up when we were needed, which gave the politicians we elected the confidence to steal an election with absolutely no resistance or fear. Harsh words, maybe, but truth will always win in the end.

We the people repeatedly elected self-promoting, self-protecting RINOs (like Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney and many others) who sought personal wealth and joining the globalist payroll – and fell into the trap of voting for them to avoid the Democrat alternative. The consequence is that this cabal/consortium will now be installed permanently with no remedy – except for civil war, the most cleansing of remedies but with the very highest cost across all groups.

I heard President Trump was making his way back to DC after New Years to attend a rally. It's gonna take more than another damn rally to fight this monstrous electoral fraud. And telling people to vote for more feckless and gutless Republicans won't mean crap either when voting itself is a rigged sucker's game.

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Those in power only look for more ways to gain additional power. The Constitution does not allow for legislative agencies outside of Congress. All federal agencies that have any rulemaking power must be ended, along with the entire leadership team of the FBI, DOJ, ATF, and others. They have become so corrupted that they must be cut, or we're headed for major trouble.

The FBI and DOJ are not late out of the gate; they are important members of the opposition. If there are any patriots left in those agencies, they are cowards by remaining silent, especially when decent, honest citizens put their livelihoods on the line as witnesses, when those who swore an oath renege.

[Jan 01, 2021] Swiss bank majority-owned by communist China paid Dominion parent company $400 million

Jan 01, 2021 | noqreport.com

Less than a month before the election, a Swiss bank that is 75 percent owned by communist China forked over $400 million in cash to Staple Street Capital, the parent company of Dominion Voting Systems.

Article originally published at Natural News .

Dominion, which operates electronic voting machines in 28 states, has been the subject of election fraud inquiries and lawsuits alleging that the machines and their software switched, altered and deleted votes on behalf of Joe Biden.

As first reported by Infowars , an SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) filing from Oct. 8 shows that Staple Street Capital received $400 million "with the Sales Compensation Recipient identified as UBS Securities." Back in Dec. 2014, $200 million was received by Staple Street Capital from the same source.

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In other words, UBS Securities is a 100 percent Chinese-owned corporation, and it gave nearly half a billion dollars to a company that runs most of America's elections, just days before the most contested and obviously fraudulent election in American history.

[Jan 01, 2021] Deliberatly misprinting special "scanner alignment" marks (aka the Registration Marks) on ballots in "undesirable" areas so that they were put is special folder by the scanner as a new election fraud method created by voting mashines

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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"We're In" – Witness Testifies Dominion Voting Equipment, and Internal Data, Hacked Live During Georgia Senate Hearing

https: // theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/30/witness-testifies-dominion-voting-equipment-and-internal-data-hacked-live-during-georgia-senate-hearing/

Graphic designer's take on the ballot misprints

Her twitter thread on ballots in Georgia.

https: // twitter.com/sherrieengler/status/1344490971648716800?s=21

1. As a Graphic Designer with a degree, I didn't understand why so many ballots were spit out as unreadable by the voting machines on November 3rd. But after watching Jovan Pulitzers testimony today in Georgia I now completely understand. Let me explain..

2. As a graphic designer all elements/layers of my design must line up in order to print on the paper properly. Otherwise it can put out blurred images on the final product at the printing shop. The printing machines follow something put on my art/documents

3. called "Registration Marks". Every student in Graphic Designer in college is stressed that these are never to be off or you are wasting the printers time and the clients time. Which is very bad, graphic designers get fired for this.

4. Back in the old days when we did this work by hand it was easy to make these mistakes, before the computers I'm dating myself here because that's when I started before computers. Now I design everything on computers that go to a printer.

5. On computer software, say photoshop for example, we no longer make these mistakes because the software sets all registration marks electronically every time in every layer of our art/document. In Mr. Pulitzers testimony he points out that

6. the Registration Marks (he called bullseye/target) are not lined up in the predominantly Republican areas voters voting papers. And he shows you that the Democratic areas voters voting papers are perfectly accurate Registration Marks. See below

7. You can see the Republican areas voter documents were off on the Registration Marks. Very off. Because these are documents meant to be scanned by a counter, those bad Registration Marks will toss the document out as uncountable.

8. Why was this print run allowed to proceed? Any print manager would have seen this in the printers proof and rejected the print run. How did the Registration Marks get misaligned?

9. Who printed these ballots? I have more that a few questions for them, like who designed these Republican areas ballots? Why weren't they corrected? Why are the missing barcodes on the Democrat ballots? I can think of many more questions. I bet you can too.

10. I bet I'm not the only Graphic Designer out there today to make this connection finally to the tabulation machines rejection rates now.

11. Jovan Pulitzer's testimony today if you want to watch.

https: // youtu.be/_PpyoYlGqBg

[Jan 01, 2021] The most basic job of the Supreme Court is settling disputes among states. It failed to do that in the case of Texas complain

Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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'Standing' is a basic legal concept. It means that (a) you were or clearly will be injured not in some abstract way, but in reality, and (b) the injury is such that the court you ask for relief can do something about it.

The most basic job of the Supreme Court is settling disputes among states. Texas claimed it was and would be injured by widespread election fraud in other states. The Supreme Court said "No, you won't actually be hurt by that."

In other words, the Supreme Court simply got it wrong. That's not a problem with law or a legal concept, it's dishonorable conduct by seven little old ladies on our top court.

Dishonorable conduct often stinks; as you say "doesn't pass the smell test."

[Jan 01, 2021] Multiple GOP Senators Announce Plans To Challenge Electoral College Results

It looks like neoliberal Dems created constitutional crisis.
Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (1250ET): Two more lawmakers have joined Hawley with planned objections to the count during the January 6 vote. Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-TN) and Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) are also planning to object, according to Bloomberg , along with Rep. Marjorie Greene (R-GA).

That said, it may be all for nothing if rumors are true Pelosi and McConnell are working together to change the rules and block objections.

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Authored by Jack Phillips via The Epoch Times,

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) said he will object during the counting of the Electoral College vote process on Jan. 6, becoming the first senator to confirm they are joining an effort launched by more than a dozen House Republicans.

" I cannot vote to certify the electoral college results on Jan. 6 without raising the fact that some states, particularly Pennsylvania, failed to follow their own state election laws ," Hawley wrote in a statement on Monday.

"And I cannot vote to certify without pointing out the unprecedented effort of mega-corporations, including Facebook and Twitter, to interfere in this election, in support of Joe Biden," he added.

Senate Judiciary Committee member Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) attends the confirmation hearing of Attorney General nominee William Barr at the Capitol in Washington on Jan. 15, 2019. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Times)

Hawley said that Congress should investigate voter fraud allegations and make sure that future elections are secure. According to the Missouri Republican, both chambers have failed to act in an appropriate manner.

"For these reasons," Hawley continued, "I will follow the same practice Democrat members of Congress have in years past and object during the certification process on Jan. 6 to raise these critical issues ."

Hawley noted that Democrats objected during the 2004 and 2016 elections "in order to raise concerns" about election integrity. "They were praised by Democratic leadership and the media when they" objected, Hawley added, saying that they "were entitled to do so" and Republicans concerned about election integrity in the Nov. 3 election "are entitled to do the same."

For the past several weeks, Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) and other House GOP lawmakers have pledged to object to the counting of the Electoral College votes during the Joint Session of Congress . Their effort requires a senator and a House member that would trigger a series of debates before a vote on whether to certify a state's Electoral College votes is held.

Some members of the GOP leadership, including Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.), have said their efforts are doomed to fail. And over the past weekend, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), in comments widely publicized by news outlets, referred to Brooks's effort as "a scam."

And, according to anonymously sourced reports, Senate Majority Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told GOP senators that they should not take part in the House GOP-led effort on Jan. 6. Another Republican, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), said the attempt to challenge the votes is an improbable one.

" It's basically going through the motions ," Cornyn said, reported The Hill.

"It's a futile exercise."

But Brooks, for his part, indicated that "dozens" of House members back the effort . "We're going to sponsor and co-sponsor objections to the Electoral College vote returns," Brooks told Fox News on Dec. 28.

In a previous interview with The Epoch Times' American Thought Leaders program, Brooks said he believes the Electoral College vote can be rejected, and the election can ultimately be decided in the House of Representatives.

Former California Sen. Barbara Boxer "tried to strike Ohio for George Bush back in 2005, so this is not unusual," Brooks said in an interview with Fox Business on Dec. 15. "The law is very clear, the House of Representatives in combination with the United States Senate has the lawful authority to accept or reject Electoral College vote submissions from states that have such flawed election systems that they're not worthy of our trust."

The new Congress is slated to be sworn in on Jan. 3.


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A clear case of fraud is in front of you, Senators.

What message are you going to send the American people?

WE ARE WATCHING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jeSIVK3CWk

[Jan 01, 2021] Congratulations Joe

Highly recommended!
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[Dec 30, 2020] Pennsylvania Republicans find 'alarming discrepancy' twice the margin of Biden's victory by Daniel Chaitin

Dec 30, 2020 | www.msn.com

Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania say an "alarming discrepancy" in the presidential vote count is two times larger than the margin of President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the state.

Their analysis, released on Monday by state Rep. Frank Ryan and more than a dozen colleagues, found different vote counts when comparing Election Day data from counties and the Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors, or SURE, system used by Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar. They also raised suspicions about there being tens of thousands fewer votes in the presidential race than overall ballots.

All this comes more than a month after Boockvar certified election results and Gov. Tom Wolf issued a certificate of ascertainment of presidential electors, stating that Biden received 80,555 more votes than Trump.

According to the GOP analysis, county election results showed 6,962,607 total ballots were reported as being cast, while the SURE system indicated that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted, which is a difference of 202,377 votes. The Republicans said this 202,377 gap, coupled with 31,547 fewer presidential race votes seen in county data, amounts to "an alarming discrepancy" of 170,830 votes, which is more than twice the reported statewide difference between Biden and Trump.

A small graph that appears at the bottom of their press release states that three small rural counties have not fully posted their results online, and therefore the assessment only goes off what has been reported.

table: Graph courtesy of Pennsylvania state Rep. Frank Ryan. © Provided by Washington Examiner Graph courtesy of Pennsylvania state Rep. Frank Ryan.

"We were already concerned with the actions of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, the Executive branch, and election officials in certain counties contravening and undermining the Pennsylvania Election Code by eliminating signature verification, postmarks, and due dates while allowing the proliferation of drop boxes with questionable security measures and the unauthorized curing of ballots, as well as the questionable treatment of poll watchers, all of which created wholesale opportunities for irregularities in the 2020 presidential election," the lawmakers said.

"However, we are now seeing discrepancies on the retail level which raise even more troubling questions regarding irregularities in the election returns. These findings call into question the accuracy of the SURE system, consistency in the application of the Pennsylvania Election Code from county to county, and the competency of those charged with oversight of elections in our Commonwealth," the GOP lawmakers added. "These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error."

[Dec 29, 2020] 99.99% Accuracy Rate -- Raffensperger Says Signature Match Audit Found No Evidence of Voter Fraud in Cobb County - Only 2 Out

Dec 29, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

Independent monitors were barred from the audit.

No other election has seen such perfect signature matches.

Who actually believes that there is a 99.99% accuracy rate in performing correct signature verification procedures in Cobb County?

Georgia has 460,000 absentee ballots still missing chain of custody documentation required by law – and surprise, surprise, most absentee ballots went to Joe Biden.


Mark Richardson 3 hours ago ,

Verified with human eyes and observers?
I think not.

kendar667 Mark Richardson 3 hours ago ,

Yeah this is complete garbage. Nothing is 99.99% accurate if humans are involved. The number is a slap in the face, basically saying to the voters "yeah so what are you gonna do about it?" I've got a few ideas...

Philo-Identitas 🗹Identitarian Michael (yep, another one) 2 hours ago ,

If this fight against election theft is destined to be successful, then it's imperative to understand that the fight is ultimately against the political establishment and the current power structures of our nation.

As can be seen right here with this article, the GOP is also part of the above-mentioned. Those who insist that the "RINOs" are the problem seemingly have yet to understand that a solid Congressperson is the exception rather than the rule. The political establishment and political power structures have established a strong political filter that ensures only a small number of elected representatives that are actually America First manage to get elected.

The GOP backstabbing DJT is not a new occurrence. Back in 2016, both the highest ranked elected GOP office holder (Ryan) and the highest ranking RNC official (Priebus) reneged on endorsing nominee DJT.

Attempting to negotiate with the same elements that brought us the status quo of today is a losing endeavor. The time is now to revolt.

Jon Philo-Identitas 🗹Identitarian 2 hours ago ,

I'm sure Jordan Fuchs helped out with this "signature match audit". Complete BS.

Donald J Tromp Crystallite an hour ago ,

When Fulton County finished counting they held a press conference. There was an older black male (don't know who it was) that came to the microphone and said, "I'm proud that Fulton County was able to have such an effect on the outcome of the election". When I heard him say it live, I thought WTF was that? Was that a Freudian slip? It was bizarre!

Kountry Bumpkin Crystallite an hour ago ,

Exactly, Fulton Co. is where they pulled suitcases full of ballots from under the table and ran the same stacks of ballots through the machines 3 times. This proves nothing, it certainly doesn't prove there wasn't any cheating in Fulton Co. because we've all seen video proving otherwise.

Tom Davis Jon 2 hours ago ,

Do remember, they audited the country NOT run by BLM Kleptocrat-Thugs.

But since "who voted" is public information (vs who they voted for), why not Release The Images of the Signatures - information WE The People Own?

Why not release the separate Ballot-Images (not ID'd by voter), so we can also check those for fraud. These are also public information WE Own.

Abel Washington Philo-Identitas 🗹Identitarian 2 hours ago ,

Raffesburger was matching ballot signatures with illegal ballot request signatures, instead of matching them to actual voter registrations on file.

Deplorable D Abel Washington an hour ago • edited ,

Cobb County is not where the fraud was. No one has even alleged fraud there. This was a dog and pony show.

Biden beat Obama in only 4 counties. These are the counties being contested. None of the audits in PA, GA, WI, or MI have been in the contested counties. This one included.

kendar667 Michael (yep, another one) 2 hours ago ,

Lol touche. This is a total insult by a corrupt and arrogant apparatchik. Jeez, at least make the number semi-believable like 97% or even 98%. By going with four nines he is sending a message.

dalmudi kendar667 3 hours ago ,

I'd like to see a count of the signed envelopes v. a count of the absentee ballots.

Kulakhan dalmudi 3 hours ago ,

Also against voter rolls.

[Dec 29, 2020] Bill Barr Did Not See Fraud Because He Refused To Look by Larry C Johnson - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Dec 29, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Bill Barr Did Not See Fraud Because He Refused To Look by Larry C Johnson

I was wrong in putting any faith in Bill Barr. I thought Bill Barr was an honorable man. He is not. He has done a good job of masquerading as a stand up, honest guy, but when it came to saving the Republic and upholding the Constitution, he ran away.

During Barr's final